IRC log for #wowace on 20080415

00:00.20FritzShould I just check with you every few hours or..?
00:00.40ArsonideIt should be if both conditions are true, not "OR".
00:01.08kadrahilFisker-: i tried to rickroll my gf once
00:01.15GotaiThen /petattack [pet, target=pettarget,noexists] should do the trick... I think
00:01.16kadrahilFisker-: she was like "omg i love that song!!!"
00:01.21kadrahilFisker-: so it failed :(
00:01.29clad|sleepvithos: Thanks for the feedback but please be understanding.  We may be having this conversation in #wowace, but Im' not the kind of developer that just tosses shit onto their users, especially when its such a critical addon for those users.  People like my addons because they're limited in scope and because I have restraint when adding new features.  I'll definitely keep this in mind as I move forward.
00:01.30FritzEr.. what's the other condition, AM?
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00:02.10JoshBorkekadrahil: you lose
00:02.17kadrahilJoshBorke: ;(
00:02.24kadrahilJoshBorke: l2notbebadatwow
00:02.32ArsonideThanks Gotai
00:02.45CIA-3903funkydude * r69815 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.toc: BasicComboPoints: bump to hopefully make the script work
00:02.45GotaiNo worries :)
00:02.49NivFreakclad|sleep: clique is great, but zomg please let me have an option to leave it off by default on new frames!
00:03.18clad|sleephow would that work?
00:03.19durcynclad|sleep: can Clique make me pancakes?
00:03.37clad|sleepthere's only a blacklist, and the click-cast table is re-made every time you reload
00:03.37NivFreakclad|sleep: instead of assuming I want clique on for every frame, have it off by default until I tell it to work on it
00:03.56JoshBorkeNivFreak: neva!  that is counter-intuitive
00:03.58kadrahilJoshBorke: are you still on SR?
00:04.01Aiianebasically niv wants a whitelist :P
00:04.04JoshBorkekadrahil: i let my account lapse
00:04.08kadrahilJoshBorke: ah
00:04.09kadrahilJoshBorke: :(
00:04.10NivFreakmy personal use case is just to use clique with grid, and upon first appearance of each frame, it enables itself for it
00:04.19kadrahilJoshBorke: i got another account so i could bug my alliance friends
00:04.23JoshBorkeNivFreak: get another mod then
00:04.30clad|sleepNivFreak: not entirely true :P
00:04.30kadrahiland enemies
00:04.30NivFreakso the first time I set a focus, or get in a party
00:04.30JoshBorkekadrahil: lol
00:04.32NivFreakclique takes over
00:04.34clad|sleepNivFreak: those frames register themselves for click-casting
00:04.43clad|sleepso clique sets the attributes on them
00:05.04JoshBorkeNivFreak: blacklist them
00:05.08clad|sleepi do want to make it more flexible
00:05.13NivFreakJoshBorke: I do of course
00:05.16clad|sleepjust have to figure out how to do it right
00:05.19NivFreakbut I have to wait for them to register
00:05.21NivFreakbefore I can
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00:05.34NivFreaklike, the first time I join a raid
00:05.36NivFreakor a party
00:05.39NivFreakor set a focus target
00:05.40NivFreaketc etc
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00:09.02AiianeOh, Antiarc - tiny feature request for Chatter [Player Names] - could there be an option to specify the "default" color for unknowns when using class coloring?
00:10.24Aiianeand possibly use the same color selection to provide just a mono-color (but not channel-colored) option?
00:12.00hypetechhmm
00:12.07durcynAntiarc: on that same note, coloring the brackets would be <3 also
00:12.49hypetechso I've been having this ongoing issue with scorch vanishing from my target pitbull frame.  seems (so far) that when I disabled "Invert Debuff Direction" I can see it all the time
00:13.41EldreddHmm..  It is still telling me to enter a valid value into the password field.
00:13.54EldreddOops.. Wrong channel..  Sorry guys..
00:16.03luxushmm stupid question perhaps.. but where does LSM get there textures from? it is a extra addon? and what is the name? :D
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00:16.39AntiarcSharedMedia
00:17.06durcynlots of miscellaneous addons insert textures also, i.e. bigwigs
00:17.09luxusi had textures that called glamour
00:17.10durcynclearfont2, etc
00:17.15durcynglamour is in sharedmedia now
00:17.43luxusin sharedmedia.. hmm... and every LSM can access it?
00:18.15durcynSharedMedia registers media with SharedMedia-1.0, LSM-2.0, and LSM-3.0.  anything fetching from any version should be able to source media from SM.
00:18.47durcynthough if you find an addon using something other than LSM-3.0, you should poke its author until they get with the times
00:20.18luxussorrens timer still use 1.0 :(
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00:22.38luxusi don't have the glamour texture...
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00:23.17Fix[EJ]Grid still uses LSM2.0!
00:23.26luxussharedmedia 67408
00:23.47luxusFix[EJ]: phanx already ask to push a fix for it
00:24.33OdlawIs there any way to target by a mob's guid?
00:24.42Odlawor any way to target by raid icon index
00:25.08Arrowmaster`no
00:25.19luxusaloft use sharedmedialib too :(
00:26.19Noct1How are Paladins in twink 29/39 pvp?
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00:27.45Fix[EJ]SatrinaBuffFrames or Buffalo...any comments for either?
00:28.15XeloLawl, standing in front of eradar twins, I'm just having fun casting starfire then jumping and cancelling. Accidentally fat finger wrath so I jump right away. Only probme was I had NS on.
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00:29.03Tularismwhahaha, wasted yer cd =p
00:29.26Arrowmaster`anybody fix XRS yet?
00:29.30Fix[EJ]I think the "wiping the raid" part is more of the suck :[
00:29.47durcynluxus: i've got an aloft branch that's updated to use LSM-3 and no babble, if you want to try it
00:30.11Tularisafaict there isn't much difference between the LSM-2.0 and 3.0 api's
00:30.11luxusdo you have a link?
00:30.21Tularisso updating em to use LSM-3.0 seems damned easy
00:30.36hypetechso if I keep my chat frames locked, how do I copy from a frame in chatter
00:30.48luxusArrowmaster: i think there is axrs
00:30.51NivFreakdo taxes have to be in by midnight tonight or tommorrow?
00:31.09Fix[EJ]hahaha
00:31.15Cryectpostmarked by the 15th
00:31.17Arrowmaster`i know theres axrs, i was wondering if xrs was fixed
00:32.09Kalman|Fix[EJ]: Pulling Felmyst via testing Mass Dispel range really, really sucks.  :/
00:32.22Kalman|As long as we're discussing "wiping the raid accidentally".
00:32.36Fix[EJ]Pulling twins because your warriors don't know how to turn off autorun is cool
00:32.38luxusArrowmaster:  i think morrowsorrow or what his name is .. is inactive
00:32.50luxusi don't see  him long time in og
00:32.52Arrowmaster`i know that
00:32.58Arrowmaster`lots of other people have been updating xrs
00:33.05Tularis~seen Elkano
00:33.07purlelkano <i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 11h 27m 52s ago, saying: 'intelligent program I'd say ;)'.
00:35.02Paene~api GetSpellInfo
00:35.02purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo
00:36.29luxushm
00:37.28KalrothQuick question; is there an event that tells you when the health of a unit, that you're in combat with (but not targetting) changes?
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00:38.29Funkeh`what does targetting have to do with it
00:38.32DARKGuyHm, what are some good AddOns for questing? I already have Lightheaded for coordinates & tips, but I need something for the questlog...
00:38.34Funkeh`UnitHealth(unit)
00:38.53KalrothFunkeh`: Yup, that's the function. I'm interested in an event of some sort though.
00:39.02Cryectyeah there is an event
00:39.07CryectI forget the name but Unit Frames use it
00:39.08KalrothFunkeh`: Meaning if I put a dot on a mob and then target something else
00:39.14Cryectwell you have to have a Unit
00:39.34Zhinjiohmm
00:39.40ZhinjioI just had a stupid weird thought
00:39.41Cryectyou can of course check the unitid to see if it has the guid you want
00:39.49Zhinjioif I have two copies of wow running on the same machine.
00:40.02NivFreakI do that often :)
00:40.03Zhinjioand both are logged into different servers
00:40.09Cryectwowwiki doesn't to be working so can't look it up
00:40.21ZhinjioI could have a plugin that would allow bridged communication between those servers, somehow.
00:40.29Zhinjioif I was reloading every minute or so to push SVs
00:40.44luxusdarkguy i like betterquest... for powerleveling tourguide good.. or this carbonite thing :D
00:40.45Cryecthow about via bg's!
00:40.58Zhinjiothey're not in the same bg
00:41.00Zhinjiobattlegroup
00:41.06KalrothCryect: Alright, I'll keep looking then, at least it's not utterly impossible :)
00:41.07Zhinjioand bgs reset too often
00:41.12Funkeh`Kalroth, not for enemy targets no
00:41.20Cryectpfft if you have enough people running your addon
00:41.21KalrothFunkeh`: Oh, dang
00:41.44Funkeh`Kalman|, if it's a boss you would need to loop a target scan of your raid member to get the health via targettarget
00:41.45JoshBorkei'm up to 100!
00:41.52Cryectjust need to reach a critical mass then as long as you don't have too many BG splits you are good ;0
00:41.53Funkeh`oh fucks sake
00:41.57KalrothI was trying to make a little HP window for Kalecgos NPCs (the dragon, the human and the demon)
00:42.01Funkeh`Kalroth,
00:42.01Kalman|Ah, the Kalman/Kalroth split eats another brain.
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00:42.02Kalman|:D
00:42.10KalrothKalman <3
00:42.16Kalman|Kalroth <3
00:42.21Zhinjioheh
00:42.26CryectKalroth, heh sounds like you want to do something like I did in IMBA
00:42.35luxusgo and take a bath together!
00:42.48EllipsisI should totally /nick Kallipsis imo
00:42.56CryectIt had a way to define a unit frame by name to display that health (and used to do targetting before 2.0)
00:43.04Funkeh`Ellipsis, go ahead and see what happens
00:43.08Ellipsisuh oh
00:43.12Ellipsisthat doesn't sound good
00:43.13Funkeh`!
00:43.15Ellipsisshrugs
00:43.15Kalman|Op abuse?
00:43.19Kalman|<3 op abuse.
00:43.23KalrothCryect: I don't know IMBA, but it's a fairly simple addon. The problem is just that people rarely target the human Kalecgos and his health is relevant too, although not super important to the fight
00:43.28KalrothKallipsis <3
00:43.33KallipsisKalroth <3
00:43.41*** kick/#WoWAce [Kallipsis!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (biatch)
00:43.43Kalman|Kal* <3
00:43.54CryectWell something target Kalecgos does it not
00:43.58KalrothFunkeh h8!
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00:44.02Kallipsis=[
00:44.03Funkeh`idd
00:44.06KallipsisFunkeh` is a meanie!
00:44.15durcynpie.
00:44.27Funkeh`keep up the innocent act
00:44.28KalrothCryect: Usually it's our tanks or Sathrovarr that targets Kalecgos (human)
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00:44.38Kalrotherr
00:44.50on1yanyone else see the prat error
00:44.58DARKGuyluxus, hmm, what does this BetterQuest mod do? I can't find information about it.... and I'm gonana give it a try at Tourguide, I simply don't see the point of paying for an AddOn :P
00:44.58KalrothActually it's only Sathrovarr, I doubt our tanks cares about Kalecgos (human) health :P
00:45.01Funkeh`don't think you can get the health of sath/kalec if you're in a different area
00:45.05Funkeh`without syncing
00:45.10Kalman|Tell your healers to target Kalec.
00:45.13KalrothFunkeh`: I was planning on adding syncing
00:45.26CryectIn IMBA what I did though was just keep track of the last unitid that used to work and keep polling that once a second or so and finding a new unitid that worked if I lost my one that did
00:45.44Funkeh`Cryect, that's ho I do it on felmyst
00:45.47KalrothKalman|: I'd appriciate it if they targetted the MT, he dies enough with them targetting him, I can't imagine if I told them to target someone else :)
00:45.57Fix[EJ]Is there anything like SatrinaBuffFrames / Buffalo that works on target buffs/debuffs? Other than EBB
00:46.03Kalman|ToToT!
00:46.06luxusDARKGuy: there is a free version carbonite quest or something.... betterquest is a dynamic quest tracker.. support libsink for questprocess etc.
00:46.36KalrothCryect: Ah, so I'd only need someone to target the human NPC once, then I can store (and sync) that GUID
00:46.45Kalrothfor future use
00:46.48luxusdynamic in the way it display the right quests in the right locations in the tracker
00:46.50JoshBorkeyes
00:46.52JoshBorkeuntil the unit dies
00:46.56CryectWell
00:46.57Kalman|Kalroth: Not exactly.
00:47.01Cryectthe NPC should have an NPC ID
00:47.02Funkeh`it's not a guid
00:47.04Kalman|Because you can't use GUID for UnitHealth, I don't think.
00:47.12Kalman|You'd need something like raidNtargettarget
00:47.13Cryectand you need the UnitID not GUID
00:47.21Nandiniuntil the unit dies or the AI server is restarted
00:47.21luxusFix[EJ]: what you want see?
00:47.27CryectYou use the GUID to make sure you have the correct UnitID though
00:47.38DARKGuyluxus, ohh sweet, I'm fetching that one :) - I might give Carbonite free edition a try, I'm just not too fond of this free/paid version split, though I might try to compare it against TourGuide =)
00:47.58Fix[EJ]Well, just something that allows me to have a MM:SS timer, and seperately configurable buff/debuff positions
00:47.59Cryectbasically want to check the inner 5 hex digits or whatever of the GUID that correspond to NPC ID
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00:48.20KalrothI could of course just hook all combat messages, I guess. But that's just dirty. :(
00:48.30Fix[EJ]sbf or buffalo would be perfect, but they dont work on your target
00:48.32Kalroth3/27 20:48:45.765  SWING_DAMAGE,0xF13000613C0009A8,"Sathrovarr the Corruptor",0x10a48,0xF13000613B0009A7,"Kalecgos",0xa18,14829,1,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil
00:48.38KalrothThe latter is the NPC I'm interested in
00:49.02luxusyou mean something like necb in button format?
00:49.21Nandiniyou could use ElkBuffBars and a bar width of zero maybe
00:49.39Nandinithat would only give you buffs/debuffs that grow up or down though
00:49.46KalrothFix[EJ]: Buffalo does that
00:49.56Fix[EJ]on your target too?
00:50.00KalrothOh sorry
00:50.09KalrothI missed that part, I thought it was for yourself only
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00:50.16luxusi use afflicted and sorrens timer from wowi for enemy buff and debuff tracking
00:50.20Fix[EJ]Yeah :[
00:50.37doitnowwhat to do when someone wont listnen or wont listen to you especially?
00:50.54Fix[EJ]well, perhaps AG will eventually allow buffs/debuffs to be enabled/disabled and configured seperately
00:50.59Fix[EJ]until then... :[
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00:52.53luxusFix[EJ]: what you want see? or.. why you want see the buffs and debuffs?
00:53.29Fix[EJ]I'd like to disable target debuffs but keep buffs enabled
00:53.37Nandiniquick: someone on a non EN client do /print UnitClassBase("player")
00:53.54luxushealer?
00:54.04Fix[EJ]Mage! :P
00:54.50Fix[EJ]Well, even then, perhaps placing debuffs ontop of the frame and buffs to the right, or something along those lines
00:54.56Fix[EJ]like the "split" feature in pitbull
00:55.21luxusmage? and what buffs you need to see?
00:55.33ApocoFelmyst down
00:55.34Apoco:(
00:55.36vithosthings to spellsteal!
00:56.09vithosgrats apoco
00:56.10Fix[EJ]yeah, pretty much for spellsteal
00:56.31Apocoty
00:56.33Nandinimage does not want to waste spellsteal on a target whose only remaining buffs are buffs he already has, i'd suppose :)
00:56.49luxusgz Apoco did you ninja some items? :D
00:57.05Fix[EJ]That, and for arenas
00:57.28luxusfor arena try afflicted
00:57.57luxusit display enemy buffs with icon and timer
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00:58.06luxuseven iff you don't target him
00:58.12Apocono :(
00:58.18ApocoAll teh loot for me goes to tanks first
00:58.29luxushaha
00:58.51luxustank -> dd -> heal
00:59.50vithosAntiarc: channel names seems to have stopped working, also one of my custom channels is in with the regular channels: "srhunter"
01:00.17hypetechanybody know how in pitbull to make buffs show up above the target frame and debuffs show up below?
01:00.26vithoshypetech: split
01:00.38vithosit's somewhere in the auras options
01:00.54vithosfor each frame
01:03.31hypetechty
01:05.17CIA-3903paene * r69816 10Cryolysis2/core/ (options.lua spellfunctions.lua):
01:05.17CIA-39Cryolysis2:
01:05.17CIA-39- Switched to using spellID's for GetSpellInfo() calls in DetectSpellsAndRanks()
01:06.36vithosAntiarc: nevermind, you already fixed it, i'm bad
01:08.44doitnowi am embarrassed to admit it becasue it is sterio typical that would beat a woman and kill her in my cultureand she is not taking advantage of that sinc ei am such a great guy
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01:10.42xyuhmm i just wiped my raid because Clique + grid wasn't working for decurse  wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
01:11.26xyualso whoever writes gridmanabars. something is wrong w/ it.
01:11.36xyuif someone is outside the instance.  
01:11.42xyuit uses up a ton of memory
01:11.57hypetechxyu: decursive?
01:12.14xyui guess i'll have to get it
01:12.19xyubut i dont think i should need it.
01:12.21xyuif i have clique and grid
01:12.25xyuworked fine for forever
01:12.33xyuit's like "clicking throught he frame" or somethign.
01:12.45hypetechI use grid, but I like having the extra decursive frames and features
01:13.05xyui'll download it for now
01:13.10xyui can't have that happen on archi at 30%
01:13.40xyui can't even left click on my grid to target atm.
01:13.42xyuweirdddd
01:13.44xyui've never seen that before.
01:13.54Ellipsisyou probably have an invisible frame over it
01:14.06xyui can drag and move it, so i'l see
01:15.34xyuhmm it was set to "5 man layout"  even tho it was showing 25
01:15.42xyui set it to 25 and now it works.  -_-
01:15.52xyufrom a disconenct i think.
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01:18.29hypetechwill it mess anything up if I delete my Addons.txt from my character's directory?
01:19.59YssarilLSM registers all the blizzard fonts by default right?
01:22.26Arrowmasteryeah it should, but it makes FiztQ the default
01:22.43Yssarilk
01:23.02ArrowmasterAntiarc needs to fix omen and chatter to have default fonts instead of blank
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01:23.28Arrowmastergetting FitzQ in chatter is annoying since it sucks as a chat font
01:23.33kergothApoco: mind if i hack on trapwatch a bit? thinking one could monitor mouseover and if the player mouses over or targets their trapped mob at least once, we'll know the guid of it, so can make it only announce/alert if -your- trap breaks instead of if any trap breaks, in a group with multiple traps.
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01:28.17Fix[EJ]Am I dumb, or did Chatter used to have an option to "fix" the border on chatframe2 (the combat log)
01:28.55Apocokergoth: Go ahead.
01:28.57kenlyricquestions "or"
01:29.03ApocoI never trap
01:29.12Apocodamn tanks thing iceblocks are main targets
01:29.12Apocoso
01:29.13Apocoyeah
01:29.20kergothhehe
01:29.28Arrowmaster`fail
01:30.01durcynFix[EJ]: only if you skin it
01:31.25Fix[EJ]ah, there we go
01:31.26Fix[EJ]duh
01:31.59Yssarilin AceDB-3.0 whats the difference between defaults and defaulProfile?
01:32.33CIA-3903starinnia * r69817 10Prescription/Prescription.lua: Prescription: Add Regeneration to Guardian Elixirs (Might Troll's Blood Potion)
01:33.37durcynYssaril: defaultProfile is the default profile, defaults is what you populate new profiles with
01:34.57Yssarildurcyn, ahhh as in char,ream,class etc?
01:35.48durcynright.  so you pick which sort you want to use by default, then you actually have to stuff something into it.
01:36.06Yssarilk cool
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01:36.29GngskFunkeh`, ping
01:36.33kenlyrichuggles defaultProfile
01:36.36Yssarilnever really used AceDB before always keept is simple enough to not need it :)
01:37.01CIA-3903apoco * r69818 10SharedMedia/ (SharedMedia.lua fonts/PerspectiveSans.ttf): SharedMedia: - Added PerspectiveSans Font
01:37.06NefarionIs there a limit to how many characters you can write to a file with io.write()?
01:37.32Yssarilsize of your memory/diskspace?
01:38.08NefarionI'm parsing out the WoWWiki API pages' HTML for all of WoW's API and I'm only getting about 2/3 of it written.
01:38.10NefarionIt just stops.
01:38.24Yssarilidk
01:38.28NefarionThe end looks like this: "PlayMusic PlaySound PlaySoundFile R"
01:39.41Arrowmaster`ask in #wowwiki
01:40.16NefarionI know it's a code issue. I've run into io.write not finishing before.
01:40.32NefarionJust, not with _my_ code
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01:42.01Fix[EJ]Does kgPanels handle being parented to chatframe1 the same way eepanaels does?
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01:45.21CIA-3903scorpion * r69819 10Cryolysis2/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
01:45.21CIA-39Cryolysis2:
01:45.21CIA-39- Updated zhTW localization
01:45.21CIA-39- Updated zhCN localization
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01:58.06JJSheetsOkay, I just had a big ass spider walk across my LCD panel.... is it weird that I feel slightly bad I killed him?  :p
01:59.02WobWorkdid it say bad things about your mother?
01:59.42JJSheetsDidn't say anything.  Poor little thing was probably just looking for some bugs to eat, or a good spot for a web.
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02:00.46Arrowmaster`traps are gay on illidan
02:00.58Arrowmaster`he walked over one and didnt get traped
02:01.14Arrowmaster`and we wiped becasue he killed a few people
02:04.24CivrockSo, BigWigs didn't announce Encapsulate on our MT, he's set as MT in the Blizzard UI.
02:04.28CivrockFelmyst.
02:05.11Arrowmasterclass?
02:05.32CivrockWarrior.
02:06.05CryectDamn whoever thought it was a bright idea to remove the wow API, widgets, and events links off the front page of wowwiki
02:06.06Fritzback
02:06.18XeloDoes anyone know how the Twin Eredar gauntlet respawn works?
02:07.55CryectKirkburn|sleep, I blame you as you've tagged the talk for the new frontpage! :-p
02:08.23CIA-3903funkydude * r69820 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.lua: BasicComboPoints: bugfix copy and paste
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02:09.40CIA-39LibSharedMedia-2.0:
02:09.40CIA-39- koKR return delete (retry)
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02:16.55Deloraladamn my dailys counter wasn't resettet -.- wtf... and we're at 98%^^
02:17.04Deloralahasnt
02:17.24kenlyrichasn't reset from yesterday?
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02:21.47Deloralaright
02:21.57Deloralahere in germany it resets at 4am
02:22.19Deloralai did the dailys with two chars... the second finished minutes before 4am
02:22.21Esineit did reset on our realm.
02:22.25EsineEonar EU
02:22.30Deloralaand that one got reset
02:22.39Deloralabut the char i did earlier didnt...
02:25.26Arrowmaster`33% DROP RATE ON MAIN HAND GLAIVE
02:25.30Arrowmaster`3rd kill!
02:26.25Arrowmaster`er not 33%
02:26.29Arrowmaster`66%
02:26.59XeloFuck you.
02:27.01XeloThat is all.
02:27.11XeloFarming illidan since early november, one mainhand.
02:27.12Arrowmaster`66%!!!!!!
02:27.28KalrothOi Arrowmaster, you know what you can do?!
02:27.33Arrowmaster`top guild on server has 2 offhands 0 main
02:27.53KalrothThat's right, choke on your fscking glaives, I so hope you do@#¤%!
02:28.07durcynArrowmaster
02:28.10durcynkill yourself for me.
02:28.35KalrothFarming Illidan since 4th december, not even a friggin offhand ><
02:28.42KalrothMuch less a mainhand.
02:28.46Arrowmaster`66% drop rate on skull too!
02:28.59AntiarcWe got our first Cursed Vision last night
02:29.01AntiarcA shaman got it.
02:29.13Arrowmaster`we got one of those on 1st kill
02:29.30ZhinjioAntiarc: chatter - levels is not requerying at all? Toons are levelling and it isn't updated?
02:29.50Yssarilnevcairiel, ping
02:30.07AntiarcZhinjio: Hm, it should
02:30.33YssarilFunkeh`, ping
02:30.53Funkeh`hi
02:31.07YssarilFunkeh`, you helped write mapster right?
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02:31.22Funkeh`I wrote the coords
02:31.38ckknightZeksie: errors with ZOMGBuffs
02:31.56Yssarilhmm so i still have to ask nevcairiel if i can use/adapt the RegisterModuleOptions function for my own use
02:32.19Funkeh`huh?
02:32.20Arrowmaster`ROFL
02:32.32Arrowmaster`2 people said yes for the MH glaive
02:32.38Arrowmaster`both of them have thunderfury too!
02:32.43WobWorkbastards =)
02:32.45CryectLoot whores :-p
02:32.48Arrowmaster`their brothers
02:32.49Kalrothlegendawhores!
02:32.56kenlyricthey need upgrades
02:32.58YssarilFunkeh`, its a function in the config lua and i want to copy it for my own addon :)
02:33.03kenlyricworse than anyone else
02:33.16Funkeh`Yssaril, im aware, I use it in statblocks
02:33.16Arrowmaster`whoever gets it has to stand in shatt with both equiped
02:33.24WobWorkwell you can't have one brother having a warglaive and not the other!
02:33.47kenlyricbrothers don't shake hands. brothers gotta hug
02:33.58YssarilFunkeh`, so no problem if i copy it ?
02:34.03Apocorwarrrr
02:34.11Arrowmaster`HAHA
02:34.13ZhinjioAntiarc: I have "Save Data" checked on all boxes. Should I?
02:34.15Funkeh`its just a function dude ;p
02:34.18Arrowmaster`theyre going to /roll it!
02:34.28Arrowmaster`wargliave /roll!
02:34.30ckknight<PROTECTED>
02:34.40AntiarcZhinjio: That's fine
02:34.41kenlyrici heard rickroll in CVS today
02:34.45Arrowmaster`haha
02:34.49kenlyricI couldn't help it, I laughed
02:35.00Arrowmaster`warglaive to warrior!
02:35.00YssarilFunkeh`, (c) is serious business :)
02:35.10Cryectyou say CVS and I thought CSV
02:35.31Zhinjiockknight: heya
02:35.39ckknighthey Zhinjio, how are you?
02:35.48Ellipsissneaks up behind Zhinjio and attacks him with tickles
02:36.49Zhinjioyikes!
02:36.56Zhinjiofruit bars won't fix that, either.
02:37.07Zhinjiockknight: not bad, thanks.
02:37.14ckknightguess what I did today
02:37.16Arrowmaster`warglaive + thunderfury is out now!
02:37.18sag_ich_nichthttp://pastey.net/85796 woho for simple stuff
02:37.19Zhinjioget a place?
02:37.23Benumbedxantiarc: chatter isnt updating player levels once its recorded them
02:37.29Cryectbuy furniture unlike me? :-p
02:37.45ckknightZhinjio: bought a car
02:37.51CryectThats good too
02:37.52Zhinjiodon't suppose curse wants an employee based out of Colorado, eh?
02:37.56Zhinjionice! What kind?!?!
02:38.17ckknightToyota Corolla
02:38.27Zhinjiogood deal. what year?
02:38.27ckknightZhinjio: what's your skillset?
02:38.32ckknight2006
02:38.36ckknighthas 22k miles, not bad
02:41.44SumpinFishyWe just got council down....first kill for us
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02:43.04DashkalBleh, I have no idea how to implement this.  I'm making an observable table.  I'm having trouble storing the list of observers -- lua doesn't have a "Bag" construct (unordered, iterable collection)
02:43.16Ellipsisnibbles Zhinjio's nibble-able bits
02:43.22Cryectwhat do you mean it doesnt'?
02:43.22Dashkal(that I know of)
02:43.30Dashkaltoo slow with that second line
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02:43.51Cryecta = {};a[itemYouWantInYourBag]=true
02:43.52Dashkalunordered, a list won't do because it'll break when I remove one from the middle.
02:43.59Dashkalfacepalms
02:44.01DashkalThank you
02:44.04xyumy recount is weird .  are druid tank is winning the dps meter by over like 30 million
02:44.14hypetechare totems safe to drop in p2 on illidan now?
02:44.19Cryectcould be cheating
02:44.42Arrowmaster`hypetech: there was an issue with them?
02:44.50Arrowmaster`oh wait yeah thats right
02:44.56Cryectapparently cheating is a hip thing on recount since someone posted a way to fake an event for a lot of damage
02:45.03hypetechI guess the fireball used to target them?
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02:50.14JJSheetsis away: Dinnertime.
02:50.33durcynCryect: syncing is evil anyway
02:59.30Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_041408_195436.jpg <--- heehee
02:59.32AntiarcThat's unflasked too
03:00.19Arrowmasterive seen higher
03:00.21Gngskthat's double my ap, how'd you do it?
03:00.28Gngskmore than double!
03:00.30Arrowmasteron a druid
03:00.43starlonWhat durability addon is that?
03:00.53Gngskfizzle i think
03:01.29Antiarchttp://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_041408_1954362.jpg <--- including buffs
03:01.31Gngskyep fizzle with showfull disabled
03:01.52Gngskoic
03:01.58GngskI was like, uhm!
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03:07.15ZhinjioAntiarc: holy shit
03:07.18Zhinjiothats some serious ap
03:07.38Arrowmasterseen higher!
03:08.48GnarfozAntiarc: is that: a) w/ sub spec for +10% AP? b) during a WF proc?
03:09.18Ellipsishow can select(2, UnitClass(unit)) return nil if UnitIsPlayer(unit) is true?
03:10.24AntiarcGnarfoz: 19/42 combat
03:10.25AntiarcAnd b) yes >_>
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03:10.57GnarfozAntiarc: cheater. :P also, whay are you wearing s3 gloves? oO no t6?
03:11.09AntiarcI have T6, I just forgot to swap them in after Council last night
03:11.15Gnarfozah
03:11.17AntiarcI'm our interruptor so I use S3 for the interrupt :)
03:11.30Gnarfozheh
03:11.50GnarfozI've not been there, we fail at both Archimonde and Bloodboil, respectively, for weeks now
03:11.51CIA-39037destiny * r69825 10PitBull/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua:
03:11.51CIA-39PitBull
03:11.51CIA-39- koKR Update
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03:20.30CIA-3903apoco * r69826 10RBM_Hyjal/Archimonde.lua: RBM_Hyjal: Archimonde Tweaks, All Mods Work As Intended (Tested 4-14-08)
03:20.45merfedQuick question, there was this performance addon a while ago (been some time since I played WoW), that started with an S I believe and it was white text, with a transparent background as default.. anyone have any ideas what it was? Sorry for the vague information...
03:22.00dylanmThose SL-whatever mods?
03:22.08xyuwhat's the respawn on Sunweel Plat trash?
03:22.11xyuanyone know?
03:22.12xyusunwell
03:22.39Gnarfoz2h
03:22.51merfeddylanm - Maybe, are they on wowace? Haven't been able to find em =\
03:23.20dylanmI think they're on wowi or something.
03:24.08Arrowmaster`FUCKING FROST NOVA WIPES US AGAIN ON SUNWELL TRASH!
03:24.30Silverstormmerfed: if you're looking for simple performance mods, check out the StatBlocks stuff
03:25.37dylanmmerfed: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8057-SLMemory.html
03:25.40dylanmSomething like that?
03:25.45dylanmHe's apparently consolidated.
03:25.52merfedThanks Silverstorm, I'll check it out. And I believe this was it: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8539-SLDataText.html
03:26.21dylanmYeah I didn't notice... all of those SL-whatevers are now one thing.
03:26.43xyuArrowmaster: from the arch mages?
03:27.06DashkalI don't suppose there's a __pairs() metamethod I can define to take over the results of pairs(table)?
03:28.18Arrowmaster`yes
03:28.27Arrowmaster`from the arch mages
03:28.33dylanmDashkal: Are you sure you don't want to write your own iterator?
03:28.40Arrowmaster`and now we died because a fucking imp was hiding around teh corner
03:29.32Dashkaldylanm: That's my fallback.  I'm making an observable table.  I want pairs(bean) to be overridden so it actually returns the keys in the backing table (the one with the actual values).
03:30.03Arrowmaster`dont think you can
03:30.24Dashkaleh, not required *makes a note in the docs*
03:31.30dylanmThere's no metamethod for it... I mean pairs just returns next,yourtable,nil
03:31.50Cryectpairs returns an iterator that gives you the keys?
03:32.02Dashkalnext() will be nice and confused by an intentionally blank table with __index and __newindex set on its metatable
03:32.32Dashkalif you go pairs(bean) you'll get the two functions AddListenre() and RemoveListener().  Again, not actually a problem, just something I have to document.
03:33.01ChaudAntiarc do profiles not work right in chatter yet or something?
03:33.57Arrowmaster`antiarc fails at callbacks
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03:35.23AntiarcThey work fine in chatter AFAIK
03:35.27AntiarcI hooked up the callbacks
03:35.35Diaohm
03:35.41Chaudhow long ago?
03:35.42DiaoAntiarc did you fix chatter not applying settings to secondary chat frames
03:35.49AntiarcSeveral days ago
03:35.52AntiarcDiao, like what?
03:35.52Diaouh
03:35.55Diaolike
03:35.55Chaud=\ well it didn't work
03:36.05AntiarcIt ignores the COMBATLOG frame for most stuff
03:36.05Diao[Guild] isn't being replaced by [G] in my secondary chat frame that i have for guild chat only
03:36.10AntiarcOh, I fixed that
03:36.11AntiarcI think
03:36.15Diaobut it works fine in the main frame if i enable it in the default chat frame
03:36.19ChaudI logged on my alt, copyed from main's profile, and nothing changed
03:36.20Diaomy last update was like 5 hours ago though
03:36.23Lukianwhat's an in game item database with tab item completion? I dislike ItemSync and TooltipExchange no-ext doesn't work.
03:36.41AntiarcI fixed it later after that
03:36.44ZhinjioAntiarc: I'm using channel colors, but it appears the main frame setting's colors are still taking precedence? Specifically, o-chat
03:36.45AntiarcSo try updating and see if it fixes it
03:36.59AntiarcZhinjio: Hm, works for me. I'll see what I can find though
03:37.06Diaoalright
03:37.18ZhinjioIts been hours since I've updated... I should probably do that before reporting anything else.
03:38.07AntiarcI have a request
03:38.14AntiarcSomeone find a license-free cowbell sound
03:38.22Antiarcso I can add it to SharedMedia as "More Cowbell"
03:38.28CIA-3903krakhaan * r69827 10CraftBot/CraftBot.lua:
03:38.28CIA-39CraftBot:
03:38.28CIA-39- Level range is changed to 5
03:38.32Chaudwow
03:38.40Chaudinfact, it messed up my main's profile
03:38.42ZhinjioAntiarc: ok.... give me a few.
03:40.08ZhinjioAntiarc: can it just be a single hit that you can then repeat yourself?
03:40.18ZhinjioI've got one
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03:41.04Chaudsad how fast you found it
03:41.34WobWorkgoogle is amazing
03:41.38Zhinjionow I have this feeling he really didn't want one.
03:41.38Zhinjioheh
03:41.43Zhinjio<-- sucker
03:41.52ckknightAntiarc: can I make suggestion for Chatter?
03:42.19Zhinjiowb, ckk
03:42.34ckknightAntiarc: when selecting chat font in the config, have some kind of preview (I do it in Parrot)
03:42.54Zhinjiodoesn't the font selector itself show the font?
03:42.56Zhinjiohrm
03:43.09ckknightnope
03:43.11Zhinjiooh, guess not
03:43.17ckknightit does in Parrot, which I really like
03:43.20ZhinjioI'm so used to it doing that.
03:43.32starlonckknight: You spoke of Parrot, now you have to fix it :)
03:43.43ckknightit works
03:43.45Zhinjiostarlon: parrot is working for me.
03:43.49ckknightoh god, the config totally fucked up
03:43.55Zhinjiolrn2update.
03:43.56Zhinjioheh
03:43.59Chaudthat bomber's buddy addon needs to tighten up the double right click, or check location better or something =\
03:44.03CryectIt kinda works
03:44.04Arrowmaster`omnicc one does it too
03:44.13starlonSomeone said it was cpu hungry
03:44.14Cryectthe performance hit by parrot is kinda nasty
03:44.16Cryectyes
03:44.20Zhinjioah
03:44.21ckknightZhinjio: you mean like I did 40 minutes ago?
03:44.30Arrowmaster`30% fps drop kinda nasty
03:44.42Zhinjio<PROTECTED>
03:44.50Cryectwell there is some profiling for you http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/2589/cpuinstockadesmd2.jpg
03:44.55ZhinjioI just run on my megamachine and don't care. *grin*
03:44.56ckknightokay, there is no possible way I'm going to Ace3 if the config is this shitty, seriously
03:44.59Zhinjio<--- kidding.
03:45.01ckknightwtf is this
03:45.04ckknightscreenshots
03:45.16JJSheetsis back (gone 00:55:02)
03:45.24Cryectckknight, heh yeah the config isn't the best better than ace2 at least
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03:45.27ZhinjioI've had no real problems with ace3's config, so far.
03:45.31Cryectand Ace2 is like position 8 or 9 without parrot
03:46.46ckknightCryect: yea, I'm comparing to Rock
03:46.46ckknightdamn imageshack, load for me
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03:46.55JJSheetslol
03:47.00Diaotinypic.com
03:47.01Diaoimo
03:47.04Olisonimageshack -.- if you use that, you don't deserve better
03:47.10CryectRock, I like that you really got a good set of widgets down
03:47.11ckknightParrot doesn't use Ace2, btw
03:47.16ckknightOlison: example?
03:47.27CryectOh it doesn't? wonder why ace 2 was so high there then
03:47.28Diaowww.tinypic.com faster than imageshack :p
03:47.39Diaoand short urls lol
03:49.04Arrowmasterckknight: whats wrong with aceconfig3?
03:49.13ckknightI'm trying to post a screenie
03:49.20ckknightI've found two issues using it thus far
03:49.29ckknightone of which I'd label blocker
03:49.52Arrowmaster`the dropdowns suck right now until AceConfigDropdown-3.0 gets written
03:50.10CryectThere is almost never a good reason to ever use dropdowns in config windows
03:50.27vithosfont/texture selection?
03:50.35Arrowmaster`was going to say that
03:50.40JJSheetsWas about to suggest that too
03:50.48CryectNo
03:50.53Arrowmaster`lots of reasons to use dropdowns in config windows
03:50.55CryectLists are much better
03:51.00vithosuh
03:51.01Arrowmaster`no they arent
03:51.04CryectScroll lists with previews
03:51.04vithosplease no.
03:51.07Arrowmaster`lists are huge
03:51.17Arrowmaster`you can have previews in dropdowns
03:51.18JJSheetsDropdowns are ideal for that imho.
03:51.23CryectDropdowns are basically one of the worst widgets in existance
03:51.29JJSheetslol
03:51.30Cryectrate very low in usability
03:51.34vithosyou may not understand how many textures i have
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03:51.48JJSheetslol
03:51.59CryectSo a dropdown that spans larger than your screen is better?
03:52.05Cryectthan a scroll list?
03:52.07JJSheetsOf course, Ace3's dropdowns suck compared to Rock's.
03:52.16vithosa scrolling dropdown
03:52.27Cryectyou actuall ylike scrolling dropdowns?
03:52.31vithosyes
03:52.32Cryectthats even worse
03:52.38JJSheetsRock you can click on the entire control and get the dropdown.  Ace3 you have to click on the annoyingly small little button.
03:52.43Arrowmaster`a scroll list is smaller than a dropdown
03:52.59vithoswhat would the point be of showing 10 fonts in a scrolling list
03:53.08vithoswhen i have 100 fonts
03:53.17Cryectusers work with scroll lists better than dropdowns is why?
03:53.19dylanmIf you don't have too many choices and the user isn't going to be browsing the list regularly then a drop-down is okay.
03:53.19JJSheetsAlthough I fo like Recount's font/texture list.
03:53.23Chaudhow does the cache folder become corrupt almost every few days =\
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03:53.28JJSheetss/fo/do/
03:53.57vithosmeh, i guess it depends on how the rest of your config is set up
03:54.10vithosi'm used to seeing font/texture selectors amongst lots of other options on the same "page"
03:54.28vithosand in that case, showing a partial list all the time would be a huge waste of space
03:54.36ckknightArrowmaster: one issue is that the dropdown seems to appear behind other widgets, making it inaccessable. Another is that the tree view on the left doesn't show all items, thus making it seem as if you've reached the end even if you actually haven't. Another is that when clicking on a dropdown, it closes automatically, which sucks for choosing the font, since I keep having to click and choose a new one.
03:54.48Cryectread some usability guides on dropdowns, their basic advantage though is saving screenspace that is true
03:54.55dylanmGood config takes a lot of thought and there aren't a ton of absolutes in it.
03:54.58Arrowmaster`ive experienced the tree view one
03:55.02Arrowmaster`not the dropdown one
03:55.08Arrowmaster`but like i said earlyer
03:55.10ckknightokay, I can't upload the screenie, connection's too bad
03:55.11vithosi've experienced the dropdown opening behind one
03:55.23dylanmGenerated configs almost always end up being shit but it is, of course, faster.
03:55.24Arrowmaster`dropdowns suck until AceConfigDropdown-3.0 is written
03:55.34starlonGot BetterBlizzOptions?
03:55.53Arrowmaster`it happens with BBO too
03:55.56Cryectif you are going to have dropdowns they better allow skipping via keypresses or some sort of autofill combobox
03:55.58Arrowmaster`checkout Chatters config
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03:56.04ckknightArrowmaster: RockConfig's choice (e.g. dropdown) support (which is minimal, admittedly) doesn't take many lines at all
03:56.12ZhinjioI would suggest that we all work together to fix the problems with it, instead of just complaining about how much something suxorz.
03:56.18Zhinjiobut ... I'm stupid that way.
03:56.21dylanmArrowmaster: Is anyone working on that?
03:56.27vithosit'd be good to have both ways available
03:56.49WobWorkNarg is probably looking at it
03:56.52Arrowmaster`dylanm: i think antiarc was going to do something for use in omen
03:57.04DashkalZhinjio: How dare you be productive?
03:57.45Zhinjio*gasp*!!!
03:57.50Zhinjiorly.
03:57.51Cryectheh! whatever back to writing a tab widget
03:57.59dylanmWait how do people do these things now then
03:58.15DashkalUI building sucks. kthxbye
03:58.16ckknightin any event, not to be rude or anything like that, but I'm not going to be using Ace3 (which I was planning on for Cart3) until those things are fixed, minimally. Also, needs dox
03:58.18dylanmI really have not fucked with AceConfig at all.
03:58.26CryectDashkal, with good widgets its really really easy
03:58.32Cryectwith crappy widgets yeah it sucks
03:58.39DashkalCryect: I'm just poor at building UIs in general.
03:58.53CryectBUild up experience you will get better
03:58.54DashkalGo figure that my day job is making a front end to an application *sigh*
03:58.54Zhinjioits actually my favoritist part of making addons
03:59.08JJSheetsAceConfig definitely needs some decent documentation written.  Was hell figuring out what I needed even for ButtonFacade's simple UI.
03:59.18DashkalGive me FormLayout in wow and I'd do just fine.  But I can't think of a way to implement it in wow without ending up with excessively deep parent chains
03:59.25CryectIts kinda my least favorite part though its grown on me for data driven UI's
03:59.56Yssarilckknight, how is http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/9615/fontwidgetkv8.jpg for selecting fonts in AceConfig? <--- custom widgets are the way to go :)
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04:00.19ckknighthey, just like in RockConfig
04:00.21ckknight:-P
04:00.23ZhinjioYssaril: thats awesome.
04:00.41Cryectheh except checks instead of radio icons :-p
04:00.50DashkalWhat terrifies me is when it comes time to build the UIs for nexus.  I'm a java dev, and wow UI coding is nothing like it
04:00.56ckknightum, because you can select multiple, Cryect?
04:01.06ckknightcheckboxes make no sense for non-multichoice
04:01.09CryectI know
04:01.17Yssarilhmm i should go and fix that how could i miss that :P
04:01.21Cryectbut I can't imagine he's letting them select multiple fonts
04:01.24Cryectfor the quest font that is
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04:01.47ZhinjioGood evening, Kaelten.
04:02.15Zhinjiowhiff
04:02.30Cryectits all your fault Zhinjio
04:02.50JJSheetslol
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04:03.03Zhinjioprobably. I haven't showered since the beginning of the month. One the 1st, whether I need it or not.
04:03.20JJSheetsO.o
04:03.23Yssarilits basically just a modified select widget from just tossed in some LSM3 support :)
04:03.24JJSheets>.<
04:03.25ckknightI dunno, I'm just like, hey, I should use Ace3, it's like a buggy version of what I wrote 5 months ago
04:03.25ckknightsighs
04:03.30ckknightfrustrating
04:03.33ckknightcause I wanna use it, cause Ace3's code is so much cleaner
04:04.05Yssarilstill going thru its growing pains imo
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04:05.14ckknightwhy isn't it done yet?
04:05.44Yssarileverything exept the config stuff is done i think
04:05.46Diaobecause there are multiple devs instead of 1 person? :p
04:06.33Arrowmaster`because we all hate making configs?
04:06.43Yssariland AceConfigDialog is fun and all but its easier to just make it yourself in AceGUI :)
04:07.00Cryecthehe
04:07.15CryectYssaril getting all into widget making and using!
04:07.23Yssarilhells yea
04:07.43Zhinjiohow are the widgets you're creating re-usable?
04:07.47Zhinjiowhat mechanism, I mean?
04:08.03Zhinjiolike say, that dropdown Yssaril pointed out a minute ago
04:08.18YssarilAceGUI takes care of all the recycling and ugly parts all i got to do is go create it and it will give me one :)
04:08.30kenlyricso, what is libdogtags a buggy version of? ;)
04:08.33Zhinjionah, I mean... what if I want one of the widgets you made in MY addon
04:08.33kenlyrichides
04:08.52Fisker-finds kenlyric and destroys him
04:08.55Cryectask Yssaril to borrow his code?
04:08.58ckknightit's been too fucking long to have growing pains
04:09.34Zhinjiothere is something ironic about this conversation, but I can't quite get my finger on it.
04:09.38kenlyricwell, it can either be fast or good
04:09.39YssarilZhinjio, again all widgets get registered thru AceGUI so you could either just make sure mine is loaded and then call ask AceGUI for it or ask me for it :)
04:09.51kenlyricZhinjio: it's in the phrase "fast or good"
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04:10.11ZhinjioI guess what I'm saying is ... it would be neat to have widgets shared in some library or something.
04:10.18Zhinjiobut yeah, I suppose just asking is fine too
04:10.22KuraxDid I missed some hot topics?
04:10.23Cryectyeah was thinking a widget library would be nice yesterday
04:10.24Arrowmaster`are widgets versioned?
04:10.32YssarilArrowmaster, yes
04:10.35Arrowmaster`cool
04:10.42Arrowmaster`havent messed with them at all
04:10.48ckknightYssaril: untrue, it's not done until it's documented
04:10.55YssarilYssaril, :P
04:10.56kenlyricthese armaments better drop fast. I'm sleepy
04:11.12Yssarilckknight, hehe very true
04:11.26ckknightYssaril: which should've been done first, also.
04:11.41Kuraxagrees with ckknight
04:11.43Yssariland so far there is like no documentation appart from what is in the code
04:11.44Cryecthmm this converstation sounds oddly familiar
04:12.00Esineanyone know if there's a big version of the Horde and Alliance logos/banners available?
04:12.28Zhinjioit is the unfortunate side effect of 20  years of self-taught programmers that there is typically no documentation at all, in code or otherwise.
04:12.45Zhinjioregardless of what I personally do in my own projects.
04:12.52ckknightZhinjio: dude, I'm self-taught, I documented my libs
04:13.05Zhinjioyou are the exception, not the rule.
04:13.10Zhinjioas you most likely already know
04:13.34ckknightCryect: same things as the last discussion. Ace3 is supposed to be the next best thing since sliced bread, I think that's bullshit. Only difference now is that I'm legitimately trying out Ace3 to see if it can suit my purposes
04:13.35Chaudcan addons check if I am actually in the dead scar or not?
04:13.42Zhinjioand not to pick nits... but you wrote your documentation to make it readable for you.
04:13.52ckknightChaud: yea, GetMinimapZoneText() == "The Dead Scar"
04:14.27ChaudThen this guy needs to fix his bombing addon
04:14.31ckknightZhinjio: hrm, I haven't received any major complaints, I'd be happy to fix specific things. I'm not a tech writer, I do what I can
04:14.40Zhinjionods. I know.
04:14.49ZhinjioChaud: what help do you need 2with bombing?
04:15.03Zhinjiothat is beyond easy after it was nerfed.
04:15.48Zhinjiockknight: the problem was I came into using your libs and docs pretty much flat out cold, not having done any lua at all before. It was... I have to say, somewhat challenging.
04:15.50Arrowmaster`they nerfed it?
04:16.09Zhinjioyeah, it used to take twice as many hits on sorcerors and pit demons to kill them
04:16.14ckknightZhinjio: yea, I can see that. The major issue is lack of tutorials, imho
04:16.18Zhinjionow its one hit on sorcerors and two on pit bosses
04:16.27Chaudthat new  Bombers Buddy addon
04:16.32Chaudfails at game
04:16.36Arrowmaster`oh i could always do it in 1 run anyway
04:16.39ChaudI have to do bombing 2x now
04:16.44ZhinjioI can usually finish it before I even turn around at balthzamususpuss or whatever his name is
04:16.46Chaudbecause it was selecting the wrong bomb
04:17.24Chaudthat is what I get for testing things =p
04:17.34Chaudspamming it like why wont it shoot!
04:17.35Zhinjioheh
04:19.07Chaudhe has ["l"] = "Isle of Quel'Danas", for both bombs there
04:20.02Chaudand uses GetRealZoneText instead of that minimap one =\
04:20.37ckknightChaud: he should use both
04:21.46ChaudIDK, I don't write these things =p
04:21.56Chaudall I know is that it fails right now
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04:22.17Arrowmasterdid you have both bombs in inventory or something?
04:22.23Arrowmasterif not thats major fail
04:22.33Chaudyes, as there are 2 quests for bombing there
04:22.51Chaudand I pick them all up, do them, turn them all in
04:25.43Chaudim sure you could check dead scar vs the sea/boats
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04:29.34Fisker-awsum that they keep fucking up skinner
04:29.44KeiasAntiarc, any plans to always display chat tab names with Chatter?
04:29.56KeiasLike, they always show even without mousing over.
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04:31.23LukianKeias, disable the chattabs module? :D
04:31.40CIA-3903starinnia * r69828 10SimpleMD/SimpleMD.lua: SimpleMD: Redo readiness capture code, should stop readiness spam messages (drycoded)
04:32.27DiaoLukian: he wants them to always show, default behavior is to only show on mouseover
04:32.31Primer!rating 1647
04:32.31Xinhuan1647 rating gives 529(5s), 466(3s) and 402(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)
04:32.35FritzHey Arrowmaster, you free?
04:32.50Arrowmasterkinda yes kinda no
04:33.06Arrowmasterhave homework to do but ill probably procrastinate and not do it
04:33.10KeiasWhat Diao said
04:33.22Diaoalso, the alt-click to invite doesn't seem to work yet
04:33.28Diaobut it might be wim interfering
04:33.40FritzI'm gonna assume you're not free enough to mess around with Quartz then.
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04:34.05Diaooh wait, i had invite links disabled but alt-click to invite on
04:34.07Diaothat's probably why
04:34.17Arrowmasterprobably not if i was to do it properly
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04:34.48FritzWhat's unproper?
04:35.05Arrowmastera quick hack with no config only for you
04:35.15Diaorofl
04:35.30Arrowmasterand ofc completely drycoded
04:35.37FritzI'd be fine with that. You got a paypal?
04:35.51bleeteranyone with SVN access wanna do me a quick big favour, and convert the externals on ManaMeter2 from Libs\AceLibrary to Libs/AceLibrary?
04:36.16Diaochatter replaces typed stuff with channelnames too lol
04:36.20Diaoif i type [Guild] in chat
04:36.24Diaoit comes out as [G]
04:36.28Arrowmasterrofl
04:36.30Diaothat's pretty funny
04:36.35kenlyrichmmm... cobrascale hood pattern just dropped
04:36.43FritzYou got a paypal Arrowmaster?
04:36.47Arrowmasterno
04:36.48kenlyricit's been a good night
04:37.35ulicdoh, all arena instances down except for Nagrand :(
04:37.35Fritz-shrug- Well that's the only way I'd be able to pay you for your time. Maybe a money order.
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04:39.14Diaohmm
04:39.15Diaointeresting
04:39.22Arrowmasteri have access to somebody elses though
04:39.24Diaoit only does the replacement of [Guild] with [G] if i type something after it
04:39.36Diaolike saying just "[Guild]" won't get replaced
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04:39.46Diaobut if i say "[Guild] test" it comes out as [G] test
04:39.49DashkalI am in love with gathermate+routes
04:39.55Arrowmasterpattern might have a space after it
04:40.00Fritzk. PM it to me.
04:40.08Diaoand it's exact match only apparently
04:40.11Diaoit's just funny
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04:48.46quiescensmm, mind blank
04:49.13Maelosanyone know what's happening with the furious* project?
04:49.14quiescenshow do I check to see whether two frame variables refer to the same frame
04:49.39Esineif( frame1 == frame2 ) then .. end? ;)
04:49.49quiescensits not liking it
04:50.03quiescenshmm maybe its something else
04:53.37MaelosIf anyone is interested in an ace/rock compilation, www.maelos.com :)
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04:57.51CIA-3903arrowmaster * r69829 10Quartz/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
04:57.51CIA-39Quartz: Focus:
04:57.51CIA-39-add a new option to not show the focus castbar if focus and target are the same, requested by Fritz
04:57.59Arrowmaster^^ drycode test pls
04:58.16FritzWhere do I pick it up?
04:58.31FritzDid you make it a part of the addon?
04:58.35Arrowmasterhmm if my timing was good it should be on files.wowace.com soon
04:58.47FritzI wasn't aware someone other than Nymbia could make a change like that.
04:59.00FritzI figured it'd be an optional addon
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04:59.25Arrowmasteri kinda just tacked it on behind the friendly/hostile checks
04:59.41Arrowmastermostly copypaste
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05:00.07FritzPM me the paypal email, if it works I'll send the two sawbucks.
05:00.36SekkyoAny suggestions on how to handle ClosetGnome's hatred of [Multiphasic Spectrographic Goggles]?
05:00.46SekkyoIt refuses to let me keep them on
05:00.56Arrowmasterhttp://files.wowace.com/Quartz/Quartz-r69829.zip should be the link when its available
05:00.59ZhinjioUse Outfitter?
05:01.00Zhinjio*grin*
05:01.02FritzDoesn't ClosetGnome equip according to itemid?
05:02.05SilverstormSekkyo: I don't have an issue with those?  what kinds of CG sets do you have?  do you have the Mount set enabled or something?
05:02.20SekkyoYeah
05:02.27SekkyoIt's funny, it isn't doing it today
05:02.42SekkyoBut yesterday it would unequip them any time I landed no matter when I manually equipped them
05:03.14Silverstormyou have to equip after landing, or the Mount module will unequip them, in my experience
05:03.46Silverstormnot expected behavior, certainly, but once I figured that out, it wasn't too bad.  I just disable the Mount module while doing the cheese puff collection
05:05.08Sekkyohaha, cheese puff
05:05.09CIA-3903chuanhsing * r69830 10IHML/locales/locale-zhTW.lua:
05:05.09CIA-39IHML:
05:05.09CIA-39- update zhTW
05:05.17SekkyoMaybe I got lucky on when I equipped it
05:05.20CIA-3903sayclub * r69831 10GridStatusHostileUnit/GridStatusHostileUnit.lua:
05:05.20CIA-39GridStatusHostileUnit:
05:05.20CIA-39<PROTECTED>
05:05.30SekkyoI think if you do it during mount you are constantly screwed
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05:08.42ArrowmasterAckis: ping
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05:14.09CryectJoshBorke, uh so for your key bindings addon is the thing really meant to stay up after you completely exit out of options?
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05:22.26CIA-3903nicksmith * r69833 10TMrecruit/ (Core.lua TMrecruit.toc Version Log.txt): TMrecruit: Last known bug is fixed.
05:26.20CIA-3903bam * r69834 10Prat/Prat.lua: Prat: Fixed a nil-error.
05:28.46FritzI'll try out Quartz in 5 minutes, watching the end of this episode.
05:30.10CIA-3903arrowmaster * r69835 10XRS/XRS.lua: XRS: attempt to fix a bug with BuffCheck by fixing a table recycling bug since I don't see anything else wrong, although this table recycling is weird and should proably just be removed
05:31.08Arrowmastertable recycling in a function that only runs when requested is just wrong.....
05:33.58CIA-3903cryect 072.4 * r69836 10Recount2/ (Recount2.toc widgets/tabs.lua):
05:33.58CIA-39Recount2:
05:33.58CIA-39- Adds new tab frame widget http://i27.tinypic.com/14295cz.jpg
05:33.59CIA-39- .Widgets:CreateTabs(parent, width, height) will define a tab frame of said
05:33.59CIA-39width and height (the tab frame just consists of the tabs). Use :AddTab(label)
05:33.59CIA-39to add tabs to the tab frame and the returned frame from :AddTab should be the
05:34.03CIA-39parent of all elements for that tab
05:34.54Cryecthey maybe the user might go psycho on requesting that function
05:35.33FritzArrowmaster did you change the target cast bar code at all? There's a problem
05:35.49ArrowmasterFritz: no i didnt
05:36.11XeloI just got a new one... http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5228/wowscrnshot041508013534pg5.jpg
05:36.26FritzLet me downgrade my Quartz and see if the problem is the same there. Basically if I untarget myself casting blizzard, and then break it, the cast bar will not stop until it reaches the end even though I've stopped it already
05:36.37Cryectxelo those are fun
05:36.42ArrowmasterFritz: oh i know that bug
05:36.53ArrowmasterFritz: its always been like that
05:37.03FritzIt doesn't do it for focus though
05:37.13FritzNo wait
05:37.14FritzYes it does
05:37.15Arrowmasterif you unfocus?
05:37.29FritzI was wrong.
05:37.31XeloIt's my minimap doing it when I go indoor/outdoor
05:38.14Arrowmasterthe only issue i can think of is maybe if you switch targets in the middle of the focus casting and it not showing the cast bar for focus when its in the middle of the cast
05:38.37FritzYeah.
05:38.43FritzI was about to mention that
05:38.55Arrowmasterbut thats the same for targeting somebody in the middle of casting it hink
05:39.03FritzIt's not.
05:39.09Arrowmasteroh wait
05:39.31Arrowmasterwell i could register the target changed event too
05:39.40FritzWould you?
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05:47.19CIA-3903scorpio0920 * r69837 10Quartz/locale/ (Quartz-zhCN.lua Quartz-zhTW.lua):
05:47.19CIA-39Quartz:
05:47.19CIA-39- Update zhTW & zhCN localization.
05:47.27Arrowmasterrofl
05:47.33Fritz?
05:47.44Arrowmasterprobably the entries i just added
05:47.56FritzWas that the bugfix?
05:48.01Arrowmasterno
05:48.07Arrowmasterlocalizing the option i just added
05:48.13FritzOhh.
05:48.17JJSheetsScorpio0920 ~= Arrowmaster  :p
05:48.27FritzThink you can fix it?
05:49.52LywellynAight damnit.  I'm using OptionHouse to see what's taking up so much CPU.  First, it was the Ace2 lib I have installed.  I disabled it, reloaded the UI.  Then it was AtlasLoot.  DIsabled that.  Now it's BT3.  wtf?
05:50.40Fix[EJ]haha
05:50.47ArrowmasterLywellyn: its some addon using ace2, since you disabled it the embeded libs started getting blamed in the first addon to load that has it embeded
05:50.52Fix[EJ]^^^
05:51.16Lywellynand most of my addons are ace. ;_;
05:51.53Fix[EJ]Correct
05:51.54LywellynArrowmaster:  So I get to play the "disable one at a time until an addon isn't taking 50% CPU" game? ;_;
05:52.14Arrowmasterwiki binary search
05:53.25GngskLywellyn, you use pitbull/cowtip?
05:53.53Lywellyngngsk: Yeah *sigh*
05:54.00Gngsktry disabling those first
05:54.03Olisonsigh, why sigh?
05:54.45Funkeh`yeah disable your rock addons to find an ace2 addon problem
05:54.46Funkeh`...
05:54.56Funkeh`if you have prat disable that first
05:55.37CIA-3903arrowmaster * r69838 10Quartz/Focus/Focus.lua: Quartz: Focus: register for PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED to bugfix new option
05:56.29Arrowmasteryeah yeah i know refreshing the focus castbar on target change is kinda ugly
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05:56.59Funkeh`wtf
05:57.03LywellynThat.....was odd.
05:57.06Funkeh`whats the point in that
05:57.14Cryectwhy not register for focus change?
05:57.26Arrowmasterfocus change is registered
05:57.32LywellynOlison: sigh because I love those two addons, but everyone talks about how they're resource hots :(
05:57.34Cryectoh?
05:57.38Lywellyns/hots/hogs
05:57.46CIA-3903orionshock * r69839 10GuildCraft/ (BTS-Mini.lua ChoicesUI.lua):
05:57.46CIA-39GuildCraft:
05:57.46CIA-39-add beast training to ignore list properly... thought i did this already...
05:57.48OlisonAh, i see
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05:58.10Arrowmasterbut this way if you use the new option where it doesnt show focus castbar if target==focus it will show the focus castbar midcast if you switch targets
05:58.13OlisonWell, better not get me started here, the hate for those addons is strong in me :D
05:58.42Cryectheh why hate an addon
05:59.02CryectI might dislike/disagree with how something an addon does but rarely do I hate an addon
05:59.14FritzRun that past me again
05:59.24FritzWhat's the downside compared to the previous way?
05:59.52Arrowmasterit does some extra work when you switch targets
06:00.07FritzShouldn't be a problem.
06:00.35FritzI got two gigs of memory for a reason
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06:00.48LywellynMust not be Pitbull or Cowtip, because now AtlasLoot is being blamed for 63%....cow tip was 15% before and the highest was 45-50%...gee.
06:01.01Arrowmasteralthough i could make it register/unregister the event depending on the options, or wrap it in a function to only call the other function depending on the settings
06:01.02Cryectyou aren't running disembedded are you?
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06:01.20LywellynNo, far as I know all my libs are embedded.
06:01.21FritzYour call AM
06:01.34Funkeh`Lywellyn, disable prat if you use it
06:01.43LywellynFunkeh`:  I don't.  Chatter ftw.
06:03.00WobWork~seen hyperChipmunk
06:03.05purlhyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 120d 22h 44m 35s ago, saying: '~improbability'.
06:03.05LywellynI just get so sick of running 3-4 FPS in heavily populated areas (Shat, Isle, etc)
06:03.18Lywellynwhoa o_O
06:03.23WobWorkIt's been a while =(
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06:03.55Arrowmaster~seen hyperactiveChipmunk
06:03.56purli haven't seen 'hyperactivechipmunk', Arrowmaster
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06:04.01Arrowmaster~seen HC
06:04.02purlhc <n=hc@202.56.222.122> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 109d 10h 36m 19s ago, saying: 'can any1 help me ?'.
06:04.31OlisonCryect: more like "the hate" is just a saying :D
06:04.34Arrowmasteri swear i thought i saw him more recently than that
06:04.55Lywellyn~seen Arrowmaster
06:04.56purlarrowmaster is currently on #wowuidev (6h 46m 34s) #wowace (6h 46m 34s) #curseforge (6h 46m 34s) #wowwiki (6h 46m 34s). Has said a total of 71 messages. Is idling for 22s, last said: 'i swear i thought i saw him more recently than that'.
06:05.01LywellynxD
06:05.21Arcaia2~seen hyperChipmunk
06:05.22purlhyperchipmunk <n=staharaj@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/hyperactiveChipmunk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 120d 22h 46m 52s ago, saying: '~improbability'.
06:05.33Arcaia2half a year is the verdict
06:05.49Arrowmasterthird
06:06.03DashkalWoot, SSO Exalted
06:06.05Arcaiaahh well
06:06.10ArcaiaI got vanir's offhand today
06:06.11Arcaiaso nyeh
06:06.50LywellynDashkal:  Make me those stones then. :p
06:06.58Dashkalengineer, not jc
06:09.40LywellynActually, don't those stones take alchemy?
06:09.58Dashkalerm, yeah.  Those ones.  Still no
06:10.04DashkalThought you meant the ex jc recipies
06:10.34DashkalI just picked up three of the necklaces, finished my go home daily, then left IQD permanently
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06:11.26DashkalI'll be back once: for my badge staff.  Heroic MgT is more difficult than I find the gear worth.  I can't tank it and melee DPS that can't cc can diaf if in tier 4
06:12.18Arrowmastershaman?
06:12.24DashkalFeral druid
06:12.32Arrowmasterin t4?
06:12.37Dashkalequiv
06:12.44Dashkalnot the pieces
06:12.52CIA-3903sekuyo * r69840 10ItemSync/ItemSync.lua:
06:12.52CIA-39ItemSync
06:12.52CIA-39- Derkyle MIA; fixing mouseover/target link trawling (thx to smccandl)
06:12.52CIA-39037destiny * r69841 10Quartz/locale/Quartz-koKR.lua:
06:12.53CIA-39Quartz:
06:12.55CIA-39- koKR Update
06:12.55DashkalMy guild is too chicken to attempt mag.  Tanking in the s3 chest
06:13.02ShirikAnyone here use NRT to track raids?
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06:16.28FritzBack
06:16.36FritzAM has the bugfix hit commit yet?
06:16.51Arrowmastershould
06:17.00Arrowmasterand call me arrow not AM
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06:17.17Fritzk
06:17.27Arrowmasternobody calls me AM so it just looks weird
06:17.39FritzHmm I didn't see CIA-39 announce it
06:18.49FritzWell it's in the changelog
06:19.20FritzK let me try this out
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06:21.41FritzOh for god sake
06:21.49FritzIt's not letting me connect again
06:21.54LywellynOkay, when I'm looking at the performance tab, should I be looking more at the CPU percentage, or the decimal number beside it?
06:22.19FritzHmm I'll use an alt on another server
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06:23.15AntiarcLywellyn: The more useful number is the total time used, IMO
06:23.34LywellynDamnit, and here I've been going by the percentage.
06:23.35Cryectwell minus loadup time
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06:24.51Cryectoptionhouse's window is too tiny to be very useful for the percentage
06:25.01Cryector at least thats my experience
06:25.21Cryectsince a lot of addons use like 1 second update ticks so you see wildly changing percentages
06:25.58Arcaiahttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Shattered+Hand&n=Arcaia
06:26.03Arcaiapew effin pew
06:26.33kergothi'd like optionhouse to do its measurements over a block of time, to smooth things out a bit. it can be hard to keep an eye on things when the order of the addons in the sorted list is jumping around like mad
06:26.34kergothheh
06:26.46Cryectyeah
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06:29.58Fritzk it works perfect
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06:32.29FritzMoney's sent.
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06:33.37ramozAntiarc: will you ever add "Not color playernames you dont know the class of" to chatter?
06:33.53FritzHmm.. one more thing though, and it's incredibly minor so you don't need to fix it - but it will still display the focus cast bar if you make the target a focus while he's casting. Dont' even know if you can fix that.
06:35.40CIA-3903scorpio0920 * r69842 10Mendeleev/locales/zhTW.lua:
06:35.40CIA-39Mendeleev:
06:35.40CIA-39- Update zhTW localization.
06:35.51Antiarcramoz: Eventually
06:36.40ArrowmasterFritz: oh it does? thats odd
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06:38.06ramozAntiarc: well, thats good enough for me :)
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06:39.59piotrbAntiarc: any plans of adding a "add space after timestamp" option to chatter?
06:40.15kergothyou already can, piotrb
06:40.27piotrbby hacking the format string?
06:40.31CIA-3903yleaf * r69843 10TankPoints/TankPoints.toc: TankPoints: add zhCN note to toc file
06:40.33piotrbI meant something simpler =)
06:40.40kergothsimpler than adding a space in a text box?
06:40.46kergothi'm sorry, a monkey could do that
06:40.49Antiarcpiotrb: Add an "advanced" format with a string appended! :P
06:40.51piotrbadding? you have to reproduce the format
06:40.59Antiarc%H:%M
06:41.00AntiarcAnd add a space
06:41.02AntiarcOr w/e
06:41.38piotrbwell .. that's cool and all .. still would be nice as an option .. all I'm saying
06:41.50AntiarcI had it in briefly and felt it was getting too cluttered
06:45.11FritzArrow: fixable?
06:45.36Arrowmaster`i dont know, little busy now
06:45.42Fritzok.
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06:49.13estalaIs there anyone with some free time who could answer a few questions about parsing the combat log for me, or how to overcome what seems to be a hurdle I'm having at the moment.  I may just be missing something incredibly easy and am retarded, or maybe not? :S
06:49.35CIA-3903yleaf * r69844 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: zhCN typo fix
06:49.39Zhinjiogo ahead and ask, estala. If someone knows and has time, they will answer.
06:50.14estalaWell, unless I'm reading this stuff wrong
06:50.20estalaa spell_cast_success only seems to fire on instant spells
06:50.29estalait has populated source and destination arguents
06:51.01estalaon a spell with a cast time, I'm not seeing a spell_cast_success when it completes, and the spell_cast_start does not have a destination, it just shows nil
06:51.04estalaAm I missing something here?
06:52.34estalaI basically need to find a way to know who I am casting a spell on, because it could not be my target
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06:55.28vithosah the joys of PvE gear in BGs http://i27.tinypic.com/besxux.jpg
06:55.47estalaI aimed shot crit some PMC priest in wsg the other day for 5.8k lol
06:55.53estala^^
06:55.54vithosrofl
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06:56.03vithosi don't think i've ever seen a 5.8k crit or even close
06:56.07estalaand I was in like 75% pvp gear
06:56.12estalaI cheated, zerking is pro
06:56.14Zhinjiomovie file hosting site of choice these days?
06:56.19vithosah
06:56.28CartasHi old chaps! Does anyone here use Notepad++, perchance?
06:56.37Zhinjio<-- Editplus
06:56.37AntiarcI'm using Vimeo
06:56.41AntiarcIt's okay
06:57.07CartasI need to print my source code out... but with Notepad++, it seems to only print out without a monospace'd font :S
06:58.35Zhinjionods to Antiarc. Thanks.
06:59.49Antiarchttp://www.vimeo.com/799264 <-- Our Illidan kill on Vimeo
07:00.03vithosCartas: i just printed something with Notepad++ and it was monospaced
07:00.10ZhinjioCartas: that sounds like a function of the print driver, not notepad... but I could be wrong.
07:00.15AntiarcCartas: I use it, it's only printed with monospaced fonts for me
07:00.24CartasHm, what font does it print out?
07:00.34AntiarcCourier New for me
07:00.36vithoslooks like Courier New
07:00.36CartasI think mine could be monospace, but, the tabs might be out with what I'm seeing on the screen, perhaps...
07:01.05CartasIndents are smaller when you print?
07:01.35vithosthe ascii art i just printed is perfectly fine
07:01.39vithosbut it's spaces, not tabs
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07:02.26vithosi use the replace by space option
07:02.29vithostabs annoy me
07:02.36Cartaslol
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07:07.57ElkanoJoshBorke: ping?
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07:11.26estalaCan anyone tell me how you detect who a spell with a cast time is being cast on?
07:11.43estalaUnless I'm blind/retarded the combatlog does not seem to have that information readily available :|
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07:13.47CartasSpaces or tabs made no difference, vithos! :(
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07:14.04ElkanoApoco: you fail at lexicographic ordering :P
07:14.21Orionshockeek, what's the table that you add a frame to that makes it close wtih esc?
07:15.37ElkanoApoco: also it seems like the font has a different name then the one you used to register...
07:15.45ZhinjioOrionshock: tinsert( UISpecialFrames, "Frame" );
07:15.59Zhinjiowhere "Frame" is the name of the frame
07:16.18Orionshockcan it be the frame table itself or does it have to be a string?
07:17.02Zhinjiomy frame name was SKG_Frame... and I had "SKG_Frame" for the second argument.
07:17.04Zhinjiothat works.
07:17.08ZhinjioI'm not certain what else mioght
07:17.20CIA-3903sayclub * r69845 10LibSharedMedia-2.0/LibSharedMedia-2.0.lua:
07:17.20CIA-39LibSharedMedia-2.0:
07:17.20CIA-39- Update koKR local
07:17.32ZhinjioI suspect it has to be a string.
07:18.16ZhinjioI should probably update my resume online.
07:18.57Orionshockanyone know of a good simple dkp tracker in game?
07:18.59ZhinjioI'm thinking a simple linear format, easy for printing, is probably best.
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07:20.40piotrbam I missing some mod? most mods seem to nicely toss their configs into Addon Preferences .. but some .. still seemingly Ace/Rock mods .. only seem to be configurable via a slash command .. such as gathermate
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07:22.04piotrbRoutes is another one of these ..
07:22.38JaxonTry  /ace3
07:22.48Zhinjiothey are ace3... yeah
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07:23.50piotrbah .. well that helps
07:24.13Elkano/ace3 only works if you have ace3 installed standalone
07:24.29Elkanobut /<addonname> normaly works, too
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07:24.55piotrbtoo bad these can't be brought under the same config roof with teh rest of the stuff
07:25.04Elkanowell, relocating from lecture hall... l8erz
07:25.32Orionshockpiotrb: ... well... it's a long winded reason why it's not
07:25.34[Endeavour]How can i round numbers? math.floor(2.345) returns 2, but i want it to return 2.34. i mean rounding to 2 decimals
07:25.42Orionshockbut u got 2 very known locations... :D
07:26.06piotrbOrionshock: I can imagine .. rock vs ace3 .. fun
07:26.20Orionshockhehe... * vs *
07:27.42piotrband now that I try it .. rock config is available via /rock .. little did I know .. relied on the fubar button a lot =)
07:28.02Orionshock[Endeavour]: tonumber(string.match("2.345", "^%d+%.%d%d"))
07:28.04Orionshock<PROTECTED>
07:28.07mitch0a lot of ace3 addons use the blizzard interface options
07:28.18[Endeavour]Thanks a lot, Orionshock!
07:28.20piotrbyep .. making it a third place to look for config
07:28.48mitch0piotrb: ideally, all addons should register there and then we'd have a single place to look for config ;)
07:28.57piotrbideally =)
07:29.20piotrbonly way that's gonna happen is if you can convert ace3/rock configs to it with 1 line of code or less =)
07:29.27Jaxonmitch0: that doesn't work, it doesn't inflate anyone's ego.
07:30.01Snago[Endeavour]: If you need to store the raounded number in a variable you can do somthing like var = math.floor(100*2.345)/100
07:30.40CIA-3903xinhuan * r69846 10Routes/ (Routes.lua TSP.lua):
07:30.40CIA-39Routes: - Remove hooking and unhooking mechanism for SetZoom minimap updates by using the existing OnUpdate frame instead. This fixes hooking issues with other addons.
07:30.40CIA-39- Tweak the initial starting pheromone value of every edge in the complete graph
07:30.40CIA-39from 0 to 0.1. This gives every edge an initial small but unequal (because of
07:30.42CIA-39the inverse distance used) probability of being traveled to by an ant in the
07:30.44CIA-39first iteration of route construction instead of the probability being all 0.
07:30.46CIA-39This means we get better route generation.
07:30.48[Endeavour]that's a better idea :) thanks again :)
07:31.17[Endeavour]*wonders what if he would do without all the nice people here*
07:31.49Snagoif you only need to show if rounded: string.format("%.2f", 2.345)
07:31.56Snago*it
07:33.30ramozTheres ants in Routes?!
07:34.37Xinhuanyep
07:34.45Xinhuanthe algorithm used is called Ant Colony Optimization
07:35.22Xinhuanit is modelled after how ants in real life find the shortest path between A (nest) and B (food source)
07:35.32CIA-3903broesel01 * r69847 10Quiet_Npc/ (3 files):
07:35.32CIA-39Quiet_Npc
07:35.32CIA-39- Npc's geaddet
07:36.54Xinhuanits surprising how a small number can affect results by a lot
07:37.48SnagoWhat are you talking about? 0.1 is a HUUUUGE number!
07:38.18SnagoIt's a 1000 times bigger than 0.0001!
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07:38.36JaxonSo should I go regenerate all my Routes after updating?
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07:39.14Zhinjioanyone here involved in hiring people a fair amount?
07:39.21ArrowmasterSnago: you know what IHML is missing?
07:40.00SnagoArrowmaster: No?
07:40.00ArrowmasterSnago: A CHROMAGUS MACRO!
07:40.04JaxonYes, it should default to "WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING IN BLACKWING LAIR"
07:40.07estalaIs there any way to detect who the target of a player cast spell (with a cast time)?  The spell_cast_start event has 0x0 destination GUID and nil name
07:40.10Snagolol
07:40.26Arrowmasterjofl jaxon
07:40.43Arrowmasterrofl
07:40.43estalamore accurately, I'm sure it must be possible
07:40.46estalabut how do you do it :\
07:41.04Arrowmasterestala: you dont
07:41.13estalaYou don't?
07:41.19Arrowmasternot possible
07:41.44JaxonI really like IHML, I was running out of macro space for a lot of the same stuff that ended up in that addon.  I did add in my own Gorefiend macro and change the Naj'entus one slightly
07:41.47estalaHow does HealComm know when I cast a heal on myself using self heal modifier key or a mouseover macro?
07:41.57estalaor someone else for that matter
07:42.13Arrowmasterbecause it uses the unit_spellcast events not the combatlog
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07:42.30estalaI see
07:42.39estalaOk so I could use that
07:42.45estalato determine who my cast target is?
07:42.54Arrowmasterthat only shows target for your own spell casts
07:42.58estalaThat's all I want
07:43.06Arrowmasterah well then yeah
07:43.16estalaI tried looking through healcomm, and did see that
07:43.18Arrowmasteruse the unitspellcast events
07:43.24estalabut a cursory search didn't net me any documentation
07:43.25CIA-3903snago * r69848 10IHML/locales/locale-frFR.lua:
07:43.25CIA-39IHML:
07:43.25CIA-39- Added Chromagus macro: /y WTF R WE DOIN IN BWL?
07:43.25CIA-39- jk! minor frFR update
07:43.34JaxonWin.
07:43.42LywellynAwesome.
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07:44.49Arrowmastersrsly slumbersand macro! its like the only pretbc fight i can think of that needed a macro or to use a certain item
07:45.49SnagoArrowmaster: Aha! I had forgot about the sand!
07:46.01Arrowmaster....
07:47.15ramozcake
07:47.18ramozio want cake
07:47.43SnagoArrowmaster: I'll add it in the next generation of IHML, where it won't clutter up your macrolist until you enter BWL :)
07:48.20charonSnago: btw i think for gorefiend you could add /cast Spirit Lance with the appropriate icon... not that it matters much of course since it's easy to make your own. brilliant addon :)
07:49.13Arrowmasteryou mean /cast Spirit Lance/cast Spirit Lance/cast Spirit Lance
07:49.21SnagoMy gorefiend macro, let me show you it: "/ra When being a ghost: Spread your Spirit Lances on all 4 constructs. DO NOT FOCUS FIRE!"
07:49.43JaxonI think something like that should be left to add in per person.
07:49.46SnagoI have to use it every week -.-
07:49.55JaxonMy Gorefiend macro is more complex.
07:50.03ArrowmasterSnago: you try the /cast Spirit Lance/cast Spirit Lance/cast Spirit Lance macro yet?
07:50.22CIA-3903nemes * r69849 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/ (BattlegroundFu.lua FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc embeds.xml lib/):
07:50.22CIA-39FuBar_BattlegroundFu:
07:50.22CIA-39- Babble-2.2 -> LibBabble-Zone-3.0
07:50.22CIA-39- use embeds.xml
07:50.39SnagoNo, I use bindings to my pet bar
07:50.40CIA-3903paene * r69850 10Cryolysis2/ (6 files in 3 dirs):
07:50.40CIA-39Cryolysis2:
07:50.41CIA-39- Switched more GetSpellInfo() calls to from english spell name to spellid's (still more to do)
07:50.41CIA-39- Split private vars into a seperate file from config menu options
07:50.52Arrowmastertry it
07:50.56Paenewow
07:50.59Paenethat's horrible english
07:50.59Arrowmaster90% snare on a single hit
07:51.05PaeneI need to sleep
07:51.29SnagoI seldom get to be a ghost though... Blizz random targeting almost never targets me!
07:51.36Arrowmasteryeah i know
07:51.54Arrowmasterlastnight i got ghosted for the first time on a kill
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07:52.23Arrowmasterand tonight we killed illidan for the 3rd time
07:52.33SnagoAnd the two times I've been a ghost I've killed the constructs before halfway, so I don't need it :P
07:52.44Arrowmasterlol same
07:52.58Arrowmasterwell except for the time i got gibed before making it back to the corner
07:53.04CIA-3903nemes * r69851 10FuBar_BattlegroundFu/FuBar_BattlegroundFu.toc:
07:53.04CIA-39FuBar_BattlegroundFu:
07:53.04CIA-39- comment out localisations which are not present
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07:56.02charonlol my feral buddy is listed as having "102% DPS Time" on wws on shahraz
07:56.25ramozhe's pro
07:56.31Prof_Albertdefinitly
07:56.46Arrowmasterive gotten that before
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08:02.16charoni'd claim he sprinted around the boss in circles and exploiting relativistic time dilation... but he was tanking
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08:03.08charons/ting/ted/
08:04.14starlonIn ClassTimers there's a "sticky" bar. What's that?
08:04.44FritzArrow did you get the money
08:07.10Arrowmasteryup
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08:16.22FritzFix the bug if you can, I'm heading to bed.
08:16.28FritzThanks for adding the feature, seeya
08:17.09mykxanybody here using the new parrot?
08:17.27Prof_Albertmykx me
08:17.40Arrowmasteri was forced to disable it
08:17.50Arrowmastertoo buggy
08:18.06Prof_Albertthere are problems with localisation
08:18.07mykxProf_Albert: you know how pre 2.4 if you were to lets say shadowbolt and then get a backlash proc it would list the damage as like 8000 instead of 2 4000's ?
08:18.20mykxI really liked that feature, any idea how to put it back like that
08:18.29Arrowmasternot a localization problem for me, preformance problem
08:18.43mykxreally Arrowmaster? performance seems fine to me :/
08:18.51Arrowmaster30% fps drop
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08:19.16mykxdo you know what I'm talking about though with the damage ?
08:19.31mykxfor example if you were AoEing it would list the damage as a whole instead of on its own
08:19.33Arrowmasteryeah, if its not working then its a problem with the parser probably
08:19.39Prof_Albertyeh have an idea
08:20.08Prof_AlbertAoEing works for me (seed of corruption)
08:20.11mykxI thought maybe it was an option that was defaulted to off, turning off throttling didn't change it heh
08:20.36mykxI haven't actually tried aoeing but I kinda liked seeing the shadowbolt followed by backlash thing stacking
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08:21.24Prof_Albertmykx: try setting the Events->throttle Events->Skill damage to 0.1
08:21.36Prof_Albertor some other greater than zero
08:21.59mykxok ill give that a shot thanks
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08:22.31mykxhehe that worked perfectly, appreciate it
08:22.48Prof_Albertmykx the backlash thing too?
08:22.54mykxyeah
08:23.01CIA-3903xinhuan * r69852 10Expiration/Expiration.lua:
08:23.01CIA-39Expiration: Strip action codes from text to be transmitted. Convert spellinks
08:23.01CIA-39(if any) into transmittable spellinks. Cleanup icon replacement function not to
08:23.01CIA-39create a new function and table on every message to be sent. Do a tail call for
08:23.01CIA-39speed efficiency.
08:23.24mykxI casted a shadowbolt, backlash procced and it listed them both together
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08:24.05mykxArrowmaster: have you tried the latest revision? I'm getting 100+fps
08:24.12Prof_Albertmykx: works for me with Nightfall to
08:24.21Prof_Alberto
08:24.23mykxyeah it wasn't working by default but its all good now
08:24.31mykxthanks again ^^
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08:32.07mykxhrm Prof_Albert it works sometimes overs not, very odd lol
08:32.55Prof_Albertmykx: depends on your latency I guess (if you have a >0.1 sec lag it doesn't work
08:33.41mykxah yeah that makes sense, i'll raise it a bit
08:34.12CIA-3903xinhuan * r69853 10Expiration/ (Expiration.lua Expiration.toc):
08:34.12CIA-39Expiration: Localize many commonly used functions for faster access. Remove all
08:34.12CIA-39getn() function calls, it is deprecated in Lua 5.1 and replaced with the #
08:34.12CIA-39operator. Removed redundant floor() calls, the numbers get floored when passed
08:34.12CIA-39into %d or %x of format(). Replaced math.fmod calls with % operator. Update TOC
08:34.13CIA-39from 20100 to 20400. Add dependency on Blizzard_CombatLog.
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08:38.03dairecan anyone recommend somewhere else to download patch 2.40 from
08:38.11daireand will it patch me all the way from just the install cds?
08:38.31dairei'm having trouble with blizzard downloader under ubuntu > wine
08:38.43ramozmight find the torrents on wowwiki?
08:39.42ramozWOA
08:39.48ramozwowwiki updates!
08:39.53dairei didn't know wowwiki did torrents
08:40.12Elkanodaire: http://wowwiki.com/Patch_Mirrors 2.x -> 2.4
08:40.53anenigmadaire: the downloader works fine for me under wine
08:41.22ramozdaire: it just mirrors other (and official) torrents
08:44.45dairety guys
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08:45.08CIA-3903xinhuan * r69854 10Expiration/Expiration.lua: Expiration: Move addon declaration up and localize it for faster access. Remove creation of function closure on every PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD", "PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED" and "RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE" events.
08:46.08ramozDoes Exiration record how players died?
08:46.23Xinhuanit records the last X combat log events for each player
08:46.28Xinhuanso yes
08:46.32Xinhuani didn't write it
08:46.45Xinhuanthe code is just so bad i decided to fix it up without permission
08:46.51ramoznice
08:47.05ramozwell, i've been missing that since 2.4 since recount doesnt have it anymore
08:47.09Prof_Albertwhere's the difference to Grimreaper?
08:47.13ramoztime to mock my guildies again!
08:47.25Xinhuangrim reaper focuses on UNIT_HEALTH events i think
08:47.35Xinhuanexpiration focuses on all combat log events
08:47.41Prof_Albertah, ok
08:48.11Dranorthere are certain scenarios where grim reaper doesn't report death
08:48.27Dranoror at least it didn't for me
08:49.25JaxonBecause deaths aren't being reported in the combat log right now
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08:49.49Zeksiegrimreaper will watch for combat events, and if it's a health affecting event will then check the next UNIT_HEALTH and check UnitDead() at that point
08:50.46Zeksieonly thing GR records is health per raid member. rest comes from combat log history
08:51.04Xinhuansounds about the same as Expiration
08:52.01Prof_Albertzeksie: so if the death of a player is too far in the past, it won't show in grimreaper anymore?
08:52.26Xinhuanthey only record the last X combat log events
08:52.28ZeksieProf_Albert: Yeah, whatever the history if your combat log is set to.. 5 mins or so, which is a LOT
08:52.31XinhuanX is a user setting
08:52.36Zeksie5 mins default
08:52.56Xinhuanfor expiration, this is the last 20 events (not timed based)
08:53.07Zeksiereaper used to be like that, pre-2.4
08:53.08Grumso what to use, Grim Reaper or Expiration? :D
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08:53.21Zeksiebut took advantage of new combat log and re-did most of it
08:53.24Xinhuani use expiration because i don't like reapers tooltip popups ;p
08:53.34Zeksieyou don't have ot have it on tooltip Xinhuan..
08:53.42Zeksieidon't. i hate it there too :)
08:53.44Xinhuanstill don't like it anyway
08:53.51Zeksieeach to his own :)
08:53.57Xinhuanhey now, i use xperl :)
08:54.02Zeksie\o/
08:54.09Xinhuanjust don't like reaper!
08:54.21Zeksiei keep reaper hidden most of time, and just click the minimap icon and then mouseover who i need to check
08:54.40ZeksieGrum: try them both. YOU decide
08:54.46GrumExpiration can report in a channel right?
08:54.47Xinhuanexpiration has channel reporting capabilities, not sure if reaper has it
08:54.50Grumwhat about Grim Reaper?
08:54.56Zeksieit can report yes
08:55.02Zeksieit'll dump what you're looking at
08:55.17Grumso just do [enter] PASTE!~ [enter] ?
08:55.26Xinhuanwhat i'm confident of though, is that Zeksie's programming >>>>> Slake333's programming
08:55.43Grumok i'll go for Expiration
08:55.44Zeksiemousing over lines in grim reaper will show the full combat log line for it. plus any spell tooltips if applicable
08:55.48Grumit seems that is way more good etc ;D
08:55.55Prof_Albertzeksie: that's how I like to do it too. but when the tank is in the middle of group 2, i cannot move my mouse out of my Raidframes without changing GrimReapers watched player
08:56.07Xinhuanexpiration is not very cpu friendly btw grum
08:56.11Grumhehe
08:56.15Grumi know i'll try GrimReaper
08:56.17ZeksieProf_Albert: bind a key to lock. then you can lock that player and then do what u like
08:56.19Grumseems like its the tool to use
08:56.24Xinhuanfor every combat log event, it calls the CombatLog_OnEvent() function
08:56.31Xinhuanwhich means its running that twice
08:56.37Prof_Albertzeksie: ah thx
08:56.39Xinhuanonce by default ui's combatlog
08:56.42Xinhuanand once by expiration
08:56.54Grumwell, shouldnt it be the other way around?
08:56.59Zeksieyeah, grim only creates full combat log lines when you need to look at them, 1 at a time
08:57.01Grum'someone dies' - replay log
08:57.22Xinhuanif you are looking into cpu efficiency, i'll say reaper beats expiration by a ton
08:57.22Zeksieotherwise, it's just a timestamp and a value mostly
08:57.37Xinhuanslake creates like a ton of string garbage and table creation and even function closures
08:58.04Grumi'll try Reaper then, i used Expiration before .. but ..it wasn't all that
08:58.36Zeksieyou can change to a persons combat log too. from the reaper, just click combat log and your filter will change to theirs
08:58.53Zeksielike you can now from X-Perl's menus
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08:59.11Xinhuanthat's handy
08:59.25Zeksieyeah, couldn't find another easy way to do that. seemed simplest
08:59.38Grumi dont like XPerl :)
08:59.47ZeksieXPerl doesn't like you either
08:59.56Grummostly because its not Grid ;)
09:00.05Xinhuanunfortunately, you will find that xperl beats pitbull in CPU and memory usage ;p
09:00.34Grumi just use pitbull for my player/pet/target/targettarget/focus/focustarget frames
09:00.50Zeksieheh. yeah, until 5 months ago i was on a 1gig AMD 3ghz SLOW ass PC... so that was a big focus of mine ;)
09:00.51Xinhuanand how much ram does that take?
09:00.54Grumdunno tbh
09:00.57Xinhuango find out
09:01.04Xinhuani'm sure it'll be over 1 mb
09:01.11Grumah well
09:01.14Prof_AlbertXPerl 781KB for me right now
09:01.20Grumi dropped from max 180mb in raid to ~65 in raid now
09:01.22Xinhuanxperl does all of those + 40 raid frames in under 800 kb
09:01.24Grumso i'm fine with 1mb ;D
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09:02.12Zeksiemanaged to get xperl generating next to no garbage.. it does a little, but the amount is tiny.
09:02.46Grumyou coded it Zeksie ?
09:03.09Zeksiei adapted it from Nymbia's Perl, but what's left of that is not much
09:03.13Zeksiemostly just the xml
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09:03.57Xinhuani have looked at the code and memory, i'm confident of Zeksie's claims
09:04.23Grumi just dont like the looks hehe
09:04.24Zeksienot the most elegant code at times :)
09:04.35Antiarchttp://www.yakima-herald.com/stories/3207
09:04.37AntiarcDARWIN STRIKES AGAIN
09:04.50Zeksieyeah Grum, but to give the flexibility of looks, you start to add bulk.
09:05.07[Endeavour]Zeksie: Don't mind, must users will never see the code. Important is only that it works.
09:05.14[Endeavour]..my opinion
09:05.14Zeksie:)
09:05.35GrumZeksie: well if pitbull gives that for just a 200kb more ... i can say its better :D
09:06.04Zeksiebut are you talking about 'basic' pitbull, or pitbull with the addons to do what xperl does?
09:06.45AiianeI don't use my unitframes for party or raid frames anyways, so...
09:06.47Zeksiei won't deny pitbull looks nice, it does. but i like functionality and such :)
09:06.48AntiarcPitbull's CPU usage is pretty sky-high right now due to LibDogTag
09:06.50AiianeI use Grid for those.
09:07.28Silviu-Antiarc why u don`t play a warlock ? :(
09:07.42AntiarcSilviu-: Pet classes don't do it for me.
09:07.50Aiianego destro and you get to kill them.
09:07.51Aiiane:P
09:07.57Silviu-True :P
09:07.58Zeksiegrid was always too small for me. too many cryptic dots and border colours for my taste
09:08.08AntiarcOr I could just be a rogue and have leet DPS and Cloak of Win!
09:08.09[Endeavour]Hmm, is there any way to list CPU-Usage? Several addons list other addon's memory, but i've never seen one for CPU.
09:08.09AiianeWell first of all, grid can be resized :P
09:08.26ZeksiePerformanceFu, enable profiling
09:08.29Antiarc[Endeavour]: You have to turn on script profiling to see it. Most profiling mods give you the option to do so
09:08.34AntiarcI like OptionHouse personally
09:08.35Silviu-Antiarc i said si, cause i need a warlock addon :) ( or mostly modify one current one to a less bulky one ) :))
09:08.35AiianeSecond of all, I run a fairly small set of indicators for only what i really need to know
09:08.37AntiarcSince it's not tied to a framewor
09:08.38Silviu-so*
09:08.39Antiarcframework*
09:08.46[Endeavour]Thanks guys :)
09:09.04Aiianeas a warlock, I care very little about status indicators, and as a priest all I really care about are renews and shields
09:09.17Aiianeplus debuff icon for both
09:09.19Zeksiewhat i wouldn't give for an in-game debugger..
09:09.42AntiarcI'm tempted to try my hand at unit frames.
09:09.57sbmhhm
09:09.58Silviu-I hate ShardAce, i mean .. is not developed anymore .. if i could code right LUA ... and remove all the bulk in it and maybe convert it to Ace3 would be awsome :/
09:10.05AntiarcI can't imagine they're horribly horribly hard
09:10.25Xinhuanso which is better, (0.96% haste, 17 dmg and 7 stam) or (36 damage) for a mage?
09:10.26Silviu-Antiarc become a new ckknight ;p
09:10.42AntiarcI have no interest in world domination :P
09:10.47Silviu-;)
09:10.48AntiarcOnly mods that do what I wish.
09:10.50AntiarcAnd little else.
09:10.50ZeksieAntiarc: biggest problem is keeping memory/cpu usage down really. cos you get SO many events..
09:10.57AntiarcZeksie: Yeah, certainly.
09:11.05AiianeXinhuan, what's the haste% in rating instead
09:11.05AntiarcString garbage is the bane of my existance.
09:11.13Xinhuan15 haste rating
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09:11.22Aiiane36 damage, unless you're really low on hp
09:11.24starlonAntiarc, is there a way to change threat modes via slash command? I didn't dig too deep.
09:11.30Zeksiethankfully unitframes can almost exclusively use SetFormattedText now
09:11.35Xinhuanhow do you arrive at that conclusion Aiiane?
09:11.43Antiarcstarlon: Not explicitly but you can set keybinds to do it
09:11.48starlonk
09:11.49Silviu-Antiarc btw, Omen +Threat2.0 is in top of my mem usage :P
09:11.52Aiianespellhaste is, at best, about a 1:1 value with spelldamage
09:12.07Aiianeand stam is next to useless unless you really need more health
09:12.19AntiarcSilviu-: Not surprising. The comms generate a lot of string garbage that isn't masked in Ace3, because I use a custom serializer/deserializer for bandwidth efficiency.
09:12.23ZeksieSilviu- prolly because there's no parsers any more to take those top slots.
09:12.26Xinhuanaccording to lhivera's calculator, 1.00 Haste Rating == 1.21 Damage, 1.52 Crit Rating
09:12.30Xinhuanat my current gear/stats
09:12.34AntiarcBut I'm confident that 100% of its growth is string garbage
09:12.47Aiianewell, im having to approximate since i dont know your current gear stats :P
09:12.57Silviu-;-)
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09:13.04Xinhuanso knowing this, would the former case be better now?
09:13.09Silviu-hmm !
09:13.17Aiianepossibly, xin
09:13.32Aiianeit'd basically be ~35 damage and some stam vs. 36 damage
09:13.33Silviu-Lf coder that can "modify" Shardace and remove a lot of bulk in it and convert it to Ace3 ! :P
09:13.43AntiarcSilviu-:
09:13.43Aiianeso the 35 and stam would pull ahead
09:13.44Antiarc~pil
09:13.45purlProgramming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1.
09:13.49AntiarcHave fun. :D
09:13.52Silviu-:/
09:13.54Aiianehow are you for mana on bossfights?
09:14.03Aiianeare you usually scraping the bottom, or are you ok?
09:14.09Silviu-I hardly managed with those UF, and with a small minimap and stats addon
09:14.16Silviu-That is wayyy to much for me ;)
09:14.31Xinhuanthe situation is this, i have 5/5 T6, and an unsocketted channeled legs. T6 legs is socketted with glowing, and the other blue gem comes from belt of blasting for the helm meta...
09:14.42Zeksieheh Antiarc: just poked at Threat for .. occurances. first one is a "0x" .. format(bla)... just use 1 format() ?
09:14.47Xinhuanif i socket 3 spinels in channeled legs to repalce t6 legs, then i need to resocket a blue gem somewhere
09:15.02Xinhuanor i could go reckless/reckless/forceful in channeled legs
09:15.04AntiarcZeksie: format is a loooot slower than string concat
09:15.13Aiianego with the haste
09:15.14Zeksiebut... generates less garbage
09:15.15Xinhuanwhich is the comparison (reck/reck/force) vs (3 runed)
09:15.19Aiianeat t6 level haste is worth it
09:15.21AntiarcI opted for a little more string garbage in exchange for speed
09:15.31Zeksiebut you're doign the format anyway. on the same line
09:15.38Zeksie...
09:15.38AntiarcI am? o.0
09:15.41Zeksieye
09:15.41AntiarcWhich line?
09:15.45Zeksielocal guid = "0x" .. format(decompress_table[#usc], string_byte(usc, 1, #usc))
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09:15.53Zeksie149 ish
09:15.53AntiarcLine #?
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09:16.02Xinhuanbasically, just trying to theorycraft how i should socket channeled legs for Brutallus attempts
09:16.03Antiarchah. Well.
09:16.09AntiarcI'll just roll that into the decompress_table
09:16.10AntiarcThanks.
09:16.11AntiarcDoh.
09:16.12Zeksie:)
09:16.49dairedo i need to download 1.12.x → 2.0.1 patch if i just installed wow and tbc off the cds
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09:17.10daireor can i just download the 2.40 patch, because that's what blizzard downloader is downloading
09:17.12XinhuanAntiarc, i thought i got rid of the decompress_table[] ?
09:17.17Xinhuansince all received strings should be 8 bytes
09:17.21Zeksienah daire, you can get a 2.0 -> 2.4 patch i believe
09:17.26[Endeavour]Waah, don't talk about Brutallus. He's so anti-motivating. everything is fine, enought dps... and then, bam! tank down!
09:17.29Xinhuanthat is #usc should always be 8
09:17.33AntiarcXinhuan: They should be, hm.
09:18.16Xinhuan[Endeavour] the theorycraft goes complcated when you try to time your abilities such that you use combustion and icy veins < 20%
09:18.17AntiarcRight, since it's unescaped
09:18.18daireZeskie: that's not on http://wowwiki.com/Patch_Mirrors only incrementals
09:18.22dairei'm wondering where to start
09:18.47Zeksieand can't you give gsub a function and do the whole conversion in 1 pass?
09:18.50Prof_Albertdaire: on a fresh installed WoW you automatically get the 2.0->2.4 downloader
09:18.54dairei can't check my current wow version because i haven't fully configured wine and my ubuntu task bar blocks off where i think i remember the version number being when i used to run wow from windows
09:19.06Zeksiefor your unescape(). let me load up wow, i'll try it
09:19.15Aiianedaire: im pretty sure there's also a 2.0->2.4 on fileplanet
09:19.15[Endeavour]Xinhuan: right. i also play a mage and we discussed that already, not an easy topic
09:19.22AntiarcI probably could
09:19.29AntiarcI wrote it that was because it was a bit more clear
09:19.34charondaire: just grab "2.x -> 2.4.0" from any mirror listed on http://wowwiki.com/Patch_Mirrors
09:19.36Zeksieyeah, screw clarity..
09:19.36AntiarcThen just forgot to go back and optimize it :P
09:19.39Zeksie:)
09:19.46Xinhuanhow much haste do you use?
09:19.47AntiarcWell, premature optimization yada yada
09:19.53Zeksieyup
09:20.01[Endeavour]mom, will login and check
09:20.33AntiarcI'm not -super- worred about those functions since they set metatable entries
09:20.51[Endeavour]Xinhuan: Atm only ~70
09:21.08[Endeavour]had no money to replace sockets
09:21.09Xinhuanhmm i use 52, but will be at 67 if i socket reck/reck/force
09:21.23[Endeavour]my biggest problem is mana
09:21.51[Endeavour]we mages don't get any shadows, and at about 50% i'm oom (already used gem,pot,evo)
09:22.00Xinhuanno spriest, but you get a shaman assumably?
09:22.24[Endeavour]yes, for chainheal + totem. (if the leades have a good day)
09:22.30[Endeavour]*leaders
09:22.32Xinhuanmana tide that is
09:22.43Xinhuanwho gets the spriest in your raid then?
09:22.49[Endeavour]healers
09:23.02Xinhuanand how many spriests
09:23.03Groktar|Nescienti want to kill my gm
09:23.09daireprof_albert, Aiiane and charon, ty
09:23.18[Endeavour]3 normally
09:23.18Groktar|Nescienthe's taking the pally out of the tank group
09:23.26Groktar|Nescientand is surprised that tank is getting gibbed a lot again
09:23.42Xinhuanyou only need 1 spriest with the MT healers, the 2nd should be with mages, burn healers don't need spriest if they get Tide (i think)
09:23.53Xinhuani.e shamans
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09:24.09charondaire: btw, if you want alt-click in WoW, make sure you get a wine version != 0.9.59 ... currently that means <=0.9.58 or bleeding edge
09:24.26[Endeavour]yes, that is also my opinon. but the raidleaders don't hear what little members say... -.-
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09:28.34dairewhat does alt click do - autoloot?
09:28.40estalaIn lua, if you have a multi leveled table, can you access deeper elements using variables such as table[var1][var2]
09:28.44daire*charon
09:28.54estalaalt clicking is usually for like.. self casting
09:29.01estalaor if you put an alt modifier on a macro
09:29.17dairei have macros that self cast first aid
09:29.29dairei will get it anyway to be safe ty
09:30.14charonjust selfcast... by default(?) you can alt-click any spell button to cast it on yourself. alt+key selfcasting will work in 0.9.59, just not alt+mouse
09:30.23CIA-3903lff0305 * r69855 10FuBar_LoginTimerFu/README.txt: FuBar_LoginTimerFu: No issue. Update readme.txt
09:30.26dylanmestala: That works, yes.
09:30.43estalaHm
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09:30.51Zeksieestala yes
09:31.08estalaHmm must be something else messed up then
09:31.14estalaI'm throwing errors trying to get stuff :\
09:31.52Zeksielitter your tidy code with debug output :)
09:32.01estalayea
09:32.02dylanmpastey what you're trying to do? It's probably a simple error.
09:32.05estalaOh, I think I know what I messed up
09:32.19estalaI'm trying to declare the name of a field in a table
09:32.21estalawith a variable
09:32.32estalabut
09:32.34estalaI'm obviously doing it wrong
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09:34.46estalaI seem to have gotten it.  I just threw [] around it and it's interpreting it as a variable now ;)
09:38.29ArsonideWhere can I found skinner "Skin Me" skins?
09:38.42ArsonideThere seems to be some for Recount but I'm not sure where.
09:38.53estalaIn the skiner folder
09:39.01estalathere are two folders "Skins" and "Skin Me'
09:39.04estalaer
09:39.07estala'Addon Skins'
09:39.10estalaI believe is the name
09:39.17estalaCopy the ones you want into the skin me folde
09:39.18estalar
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09:41.53estalanooooooo servers going down when I'm making such good headway on my addon :(
09:42.11Zeksiegotta hate that..
09:42.32Daemonawts eu account for 2 hours
09:42.35Daemonagrins.
09:42.39estalawtb eu client :|
09:43.11estalaOr can you just modify the serverlist file
09:43.39Daemonayour account wont work on eu servers, if you modify the serlist or not
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09:43.51estalaI know that you need an EU account
09:44.01Ellipsisthat's why it pays to have eu friends
09:44.02Daemonaclient should work
09:44.02estalaI was unsure whether or not there is actually a different EU client or not
09:44.25Daemonashouldnt, beside the version tags as in enUS enGB ;)
09:44.35Daemonaand the ptr english language based clients are identical
09:44.54estalaYeah, but I could see them doing it
09:44.55estalaJust because
09:44.59estala:|
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09:46.50Arsonideawesome, I work for a week straight, get two days off and decide to try and level, today the server was down half the day, tomorrow seems to look the same way.
09:47.04ArsonideBlizzard owes me a dollar :(
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09:48.45estalabetter make the next 15 minutes count!
09:49.15ThreatssGreat, now what are we supposed to do with our mornings.
09:49.52ArsonideI wish there was some way to test UI stuff when the server was down.
09:50.01ArsonideThen atleast I could tweak my UI.
09:50.29Zeksieuse another server?
09:51.12Arsonidethis downtime is for all realms
09:51.43aLonehy, i need bugs, if u have, pm me, thx friend
09:51.59AiianeArsonide: have a european account and an american account?
09:52.02Zeksieoh. it's ur maintenance time.. right
09:52.06Aiianeiirc they do their downtimes at different times each day
09:52.49ThreatssNah it just says all servers in the "Breaking news!"
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09:53.27MikkSooooo... has anyone gotten TinyTip to work lately?
09:53.51MikkI thought it might work now that he has options in the blizz addon listing etc
09:53.55MikkNot really happening though :S
09:54.32ramozXinhuan: how much haste in total? i mean, 1% haste is nothing if thats all you have
09:54.46Xinhuan3%
09:54.59Xinhuani'm trying to get za haste ring, never drops too
09:55.05MikkEvery % of haste is worth it
09:55.14MikkSame as every point of <insert damage-increasing stat> is
09:55.34ThreatssIt depends.
09:55.37MikkNo
09:55.43ThreatssOn what stat you're sacraficing to be able to have haste on the item, yes.
09:55.47ramozMikk: TinyTip works as it did before you have have all the TinyTip* things
09:56.04MikkThreatss: ah yeha of course. it needs to be weighed.
09:56.19Mikkbut saying "1% aint worth it if you dont have more" is just wrong
09:56.46dylanm~alert
09:56.47purlI'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons...
09:56.49estalatrying to use :SetCandyBarOnClick(name, func, ...), it's saying it is expecting a function in argument 3
09:56.50ThreatssYeah, I know a shaman I raid with, his dps stays the same in haste gear he just crits a lot less, that'd be fine for a shaman, to crit less, but for like a fury warrior or something.
09:56.50estala:S
09:56.53dylanmHm that's not it.
09:56.56dylanmhttp://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert
09:57.12Xinhuanthere is diminishing returns on haste rating, in that you need more haste rating to get the same 0.1 second in casting speed reduction
09:57.32estalabut .1  reduction is worth more the faster it gets
09:57.36estalathat benefit doesn't diminish
09:57.40Xinhuantrue
09:57.44estalaThe real issue with haste
09:57.50estalais many classes benefit from it in a stepwise fashion
09:58.00estalaBecause of cooldowns of abilities
09:58.03dylanmYou might have to revert a little bit with TinyTip... I don't think the positioning stuff works at all in the latest rev.
09:58.13Xinhuanmore like, the problem with haste is that it eats mana faster
09:58.19Xinhuanas compared to crit/dmg
09:58.20estalaJoW
09:58.23estalafixes that =p
09:58.28estala:D
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09:58.41Xinhuanunless you bring a ret pally to brutallus, i doubt you will have jow ;p
09:58.47estalaWhy wouldn't you
09:58.53estalaWe definitely do
09:58.57Mikkdylanm: ups. i just checked the actual contents of the "TinyTip" folder. i guess I shouldnt trust what the addon descriptions say, huh
09:58.58Xinhuanyou need one that is sufficiently geared in the first place
09:59.02estalaYes
09:59.04Xinhuanthere aren't many of these around
09:59.08estalaWe run one
09:59.09estala:P
09:59.38dylanmThe fight treats them pretty well.
09:59.58dylanmBut yeah finding one that isn't dumb is hard.
09:59.59estala:S "Bad argument #3 to 'SetCandyBarCompletion' (function expected, got nil)
10:00.06estalawhat the heck candybar
10:00.21MikkTinyTipBasic: "Not required if you already have TinyTip, as this is a basic TinyTip module."
10:00.29MikkLies, damn lies, and statistics!
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10:01.16dylanmMikk: Well it embeds them... it's uh...
10:01.21Xinhuantheorycraft says 1 spell haste rating > 1 spell damage
10:01.26ThreatssDo any of you know if it's possible to add an OnClick function to eePanels, just something simple to like toggle the minimap or something.
10:01.28Xinhuani'm not sure if that's really true
10:02.04Mikkdylanm: let me guess... via externals? but it doesn't set x-embed so wau doesnt download the modules when i have "WITHOUT externals"?
10:02.18dylanmNot sure.
10:02.29dylanmI get it off of his gcode :p
10:02.58Mikkmmm maybe i should do that too eh
10:03.33estalaFrom what I've heard Xin
10:03.39estalaIf I remember correctly
10:03.40dylanmDunno. Man I don't know what WAU really does.
10:03.48estalaThe mages and warlocks seem to still value damage the most, but haste is great
10:03.55estalaIn that, they want to gem their reds full damage
10:03.59estalaand their yellows damage/haste
10:04.00dylanmHe doesn't set X-Embeds no.
10:04.30Brunersgreat stuff, getting owned by a multiboxer
10:05.19CIA-3903whyv * r69856 10Omen/Modules/AOE/Localization/zhTW.lua: Omen: update zhTW
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10:05.36Trell_got a quick question
10:05.48Trell_I had a set bound to alt+2 with closetgnome
10:06.12Trell_now ive removed that binding, and made a conditional macro (siphon life on pressing 2, and shadowblot on alt+2)
10:06.46Trell_i know its working, because pressing 2 casts siphon life, and holding alt switches the icon to the shadow bolt icon, but pressing alt+2 does nothing.  doesn't even give me an error message
10:06.59Trell_ie, not even when not targeting anything - you have no target
10:07.01Trell_any ideas?
10:07.15estalaIs the macro on an action button that is actually bound to 2, via "Key Bindings" menu?
10:07.23Trell_yes
10:07.26estalaand not bound using something like SpellBinder
10:07.40estalaDo you have alt self casting enabled?
10:07.42Trell_its on my bartender bar 1, which has 10 buttons, keybound 1-0
10:07.51Trell_i dont believe so
10:07.55estalatry changing the modifier to shift of control
10:08.00estalato see if that works perhaps?
10:08.05ThreatssI always go into the key bindings and bind it then unbind it and click oaky
10:08.11ThreatssJust to clear any binding that would have been associated with it.
10:08.42ThreatssIf I'm understanding your problem correctly.
10:09.22Trell_changed modifier and still nothing
10:09.25Trell_not even an error message
10:09.31estala:/
10:09.39estalaYou don't have your UIErrorsFrame hidden, do you?
10:09.56Aiianepastey macro?
10:10.17Trell_it's just /cast [modifier:ctrl] Shadow Bolt; Siphon Life
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10:10.23Trell_except with alt instead of ctrl
10:10.31Trell_no estala
10:10.45Trell_when i press the modifier key, the icon changes
10:10.49Trell_so I guess thats working
10:10.51estalaRight
10:10.54estalaTry what threatss suggested
10:10.59estalasounds like your bind is getting intercepted
10:11.05Trell_i've done that
10:11.12estala:|
10:11.32ThreatssSee if you can toggle other things with alt+2, like auto run.
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10:12.25Trell_ah that fixed it
10:12.31Trell_thats weird though, I unbound everything
10:12.34Trell_and it didnt work
10:12.41Trell_set move forward to alt+2
10:12.47Trell_then set it back to up arrow
10:12.49Trell_and its working now
10:12.50estalaYeah
10:12.52Trell_cheers guys.
10:13.00estala:-)
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10:40.59CIA-3903zeksie * r69857 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
10:40.59CIA-39ZOMGBuffs:
10:40.59CIA-39- Fixed a table recylcling gap.
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10:42.46ZhinjioI don't suppose any of y'all doing technical hiring?
10:43.23Zhinjiowhich is to say, I'd like someone to review a resume of mine, not hire me.
10:46.35Arsonidemy compilation came with two mods for grid that have to do with healing...is there any grid mods for mages?
10:46.46ArsonideFor instance, that set it up to be ideal for buffing/decursing.
10:47.42Mikkno that doesnt exist afaik
10:48.48Brunersany bt raiding hunters on ?
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10:49.08Chompersuh oh, i mouseover GuildFu and wow crashes :/
10:49.38MikkOne steady per autoshot. Rez your pet before FDing. Win DPS meters.
10:49.40Mikk^ All you need.
10:49.48kadrahilMikk: <3 you
10:49.54Worfhehe
10:52.35kadrahilBruners: might give vithos a poke, he usually responds to messages when he gets back from being afk
10:53.30Brunersmy question is really if Ashtongue talisman of swiftness is better than the hourglass
10:53.38kadrahiloh
10:54.26Brunerswhen looking at cheeky's spreadsheet it is, but i dont understand why
10:54.30MikkWell, hourglass is easy to get raw numbers for.
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10:55.04MikkYou can basically call the proc "== 60 AP"
10:57.28CIA-3903bam * r69858 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua:
10:57.29CIA-39ItemPrice-1.1:
10:57.29CIA-39- Price updates.
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11:17.48JoshBorkeCryect: click the x
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11:18.06[SW]Dodgeg'morning all
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11:19.11chuanhsingCan I get MobID by WOW API  now?
11:20.27JoshBorkeif you target it
11:22.44MikkOr see it do things in combatlog
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11:25.47CIA-3903Zimran * r69859 10zimClock/ (. zimClock.lua zimClock.toc):
11:25.47CIA-39zimClock: initial commit
11:25.47CIA-39- Simple clock.
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11:27.59Arsonidehttp://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6159/howiui2008betaeh0.jpg
11:27.59ArsonideIn the bottom left is that recount or SW Stats?
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11:29.38Aiianelooks like sws to me at least
11:29.45JoshBorkeArsonide: definitely sw stats
11:29.57Aiianerecount uses icons for the title bar buttons
11:30.34ArsonideYeah, and they look worse in this compilation. It's weird, the screenshot is for a compilation I'm using, the compilation has recount and I spent forever trying to get recount to look like that before I realized it was another mod.
11:31.36JoshBorkearen't compilations great?
11:32.13Gagorian(No.)
11:35.12ArsonideWell I was going to start from scratch but when I saw that screenshot I decided not to bother, better to start from something than nothing I say and tweak from there.
11:35.27ArsonideIt's the perfect combination of functionality and screen viewing space.
11:35.31ArsonideFor me anyway.
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11:37.33JoshBorkewell good
11:37.36JoshBorkeuse what works for you
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11:38.40xyuI'd like to steal Aeyan's UI  :P
11:38.50xyubut am not skilled enough!
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11:40.25xyui need to log on a private or something during maintenance so i can change up my UI while servers are down.  
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11:44.10chuanhsingsome UIs can be rewote by mobID for less translation
11:44.14Mikki need a private so i can dev while servers are down :S
11:44.58Mikkerm i thought mobID was a unique ID per mob, randomly generated when it is spawned
11:45.12Mikknot something that you can identify "Ravager" with?
11:45.15AntiarcMikk: Same
11:45.25AntiarcI have a sweet new bar library written and no way to test it
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11:45.33chuanhsingyes, I can identify
11:45.53UhuruHi, i'm looking an alternative to the add on Voyeur (discontinued)
11:47.29[SW]Dodge0.1 is smallest interval for AceTimer-3.0?
11:48.29MikkYes
11:49.06chuanhsingDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(UnitName("target").. " has the mob ID: "..tonumber(string.sub(UnitGUID("target"), 9, 12), 16));
11:49.29chuanhsingtry this for identify a mob ID
11:49.34Mikk[SW]Dodge: Or more correctly, you can give it smaller intervals. But you can't get it to fire more often than once every 0.1s
11:49.56[SW]Dodgedamn :(
11:50.16Mikk[SW]Dodge: if you want more often than that, you want your own OnUpdate handler to be honest
11:50.36MikkBut even then you're not guaranteed to have it happen more often
11:50.45MikkPeople frequently have framerates lower than 10 in raids
11:51.34Mikkchuanhsing: correct. though apparently sub(guid, -12,-7) is the preferred one
11:51.44Mikkchuanhsing: so, yes, lots of addons can be rewritten indeed
11:51.50[SW]DodgeMikk: i have low fps i raids too^^ but the frame update should be >10fps if the user have >10 fps :P
11:52.14AntiarcIf you need a timer of greater resolution than 0.1 sec, just run your own onupdate.
11:52.24[SW]Dodgehm ok
11:52.26Zhinjiockknight: ping.
11:52.27AntiarcThere are very few legitimate reasons why you'd want a timer that granular
11:52.37ckknightpong, Zhinjio
11:52.38Mikk[SW]Dodge: why exactly do you need a timer that fast?
11:52.39chuanhsingMikk: why sub(guid, -12, -7) is preferred?
11:52.40ckknightjust woke up
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11:52.52MikkAntiarc: help me with that guid sub please =)
11:52.54Zhinjiohey dude.
11:53.04[SW]DodgeMikk: for my pulse effect
11:53.10KirkburnMikk, hullo
11:53.15kagaroJoshBorke: ping
11:53.23Mikk[SW]Dodge: we're talking an on-screen effect? Then you definitely want onupdate.
11:53.33Kirkburnpokes Mikk about WW:RC ;)
11:53.34[SW]DodgeMikk: yeah
11:53.41ckknightAntiarc: I have legit reasons to use per-frame OnUpdate in Cart3. I do fun fading effects.
11:54.02Antiarcckknight: That belongs in an onupdate referencing a local function, IMO
11:54.07AntiarcRather than proxying through a timer lib
11:54.11Mikkckknight: We were talking about timer library granularity, and why you should use OnUpdate if you want very granular
11:54.19ckknightAntiarc: that's what I do ;-)
11:54.22MikkPrecisely :P
11:54.27Antiarc(I just wrote a bar library and am doing fading, as well - go go local functions)
11:54.45ckknightAntiarc: have I showed you Cart3 yet?
11:54.54AntiarcNope
11:55.04Chompersit's sexy
11:55.14UhuruSomeone know an alternative to Voyeur please ?
11:55.44WavefunctionUhuru: search examiner on curse
11:55.58Uhuruthank's
11:56.42kagaroElkano: ping
11:57.06Elkanokagaro: pong!
11:57.19CIA-3903antiarc * r69861 10MobSpells/MobSpells.lua: MobSpells: bugfix
11:57.20kagaroElkano: I updated that plugin thread
11:58.06Kirkburnintrigued by this talk of Cart3
11:58.28Mikkchuanhsing: i don't know to be fully honest. to me, it seems more logical to do it the way you do it.
11:58.53KirkburnMikk, are you avoiding me? :P
11:59.03MikkYes! How could you tell!
11:59.04Mikk:S
11:59.08Kirkburnheh
11:59.40ckknightAntiarc: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/b4a71f3942973cd50fd52bd16703203a1c15600d.tar.gz
12:00.04ckknightKirkburn: ^--- you too
12:00.24AntiarcI'll check it out, but servers are down ATM :P
12:00.48KirkburnI'd look if I played WoW much, pix are my game atm :P
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12:01.14Mikk"pix"?
12:02.35baer_is there a way to turn the "bars" in pitbull transparent?
12:02.55KirkburnMikk, addon pix
12:03.03baer_talking about the "background", having only the foreground font?
12:03.30kagarosays 'Time for work' as he logs out
12:03.36MikkKirkburn: erm.. as in "pictures"?
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12:03.41Mikkor "picks"?
12:03.45Mikkor ....   i'm confused :S
12:03.46KirkburnMikk, pictures, yes
12:03.58sbomg ckknight :o
12:04.09sbthats hot :)
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12:05.27sbckknight_  [14:03:59] <sb> thats hot :)
12:05.35ckknight_glad you like it
12:05.38ckknight_it is just a tech preview, though
12:05.48ckknight_but I'm continuously updating it when I have spare time
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12:06.11ckknight_and I'm paying close attention to make sure it doesn't use oodles of memory or CPU and such.
12:06.52KirkburnIs oodles > lots ?
12:07.08KirkburnIt can be hard to tell
12:07.43ben__TextureData.lua is intriguing
12:08.42KirkburnIsn't it normal?
12:08.54ben__Well, I do not know what it is
12:09.09Daemonaapropos oodles of cpu and memory... why does cartographer battleground grab so much power when in a raid instance? ;)
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12:10.02xyumy gridmanabars go crazy when i'm dead from a wipe running back , and other people are zoned into the instance.    
12:10.08xyuMemory shoots up like 100 fold ><
12:10.17ben__Also yay git
12:10.21xyuuntil i zone in and appease it
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12:11.11ben__xyu: Stop wiping >:[
12:11.35xyucan't, kalecgos isn't kind to us :(
12:12.08xyuand warlocks like to pull scouts in order to click on flashy bodies.
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12:12.38ben__They need soulshards for better dps with shadowburn, clearly
12:13.26xyuthey need to die from cancer or buff me will be fine too.  
12:14.49CIA-3903Jebus905 * r69862 10Cartographer_Minimap_Coords/ (3 files):
12:14.49CIA-39Cartographer_Minimap_Coords: initial commit
12:14.49CIA-39- Adds coordinates to the mini-map window
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12:16.35Daemonadoesnt chinchilla / simpleminimap add that already?
12:16.35KirkburnQuestion - why does that need to a Cart module?
12:16.39Daemonais confused
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12:16.55MikkErrr that exists in carto core
12:16.56xyuevery addon ever should have that
12:16.59KirkburnWhat has cart got to do with the minimap in the first place?
12:17.08MikkAh no, sorry, not the minimap
12:17.14MikkAnd no carto has nothing to do with the minimap
12:17.49xyuFirst the world map, next the world!
12:17.55SunTsuMaybe you should be asking Jebus905 those questions
12:18.07ben__You could scale the cartographer window all the way down and use it as a minimap though
12:18.08xyuwhen is Carto_Unitframes coming?
12:18.08MikkThis is why new devs should be required to be in the channel why they committ
12:18.37ben__Can I browse the svn repos as a non-dev?
12:18.45Daemonasure
12:18.47SunTsuMikk: Wouldn't that take the fun away like in the .toc bumping spree? ;)
12:18.50Daemonaget a svn client
12:18.53Daemonaand browse away
12:18.58ben__Firefox seems to do
12:19.04xyuExcept that guy actually did log on IRC
12:19.09MikkSunTsu: True. We get to do reverts and revoke people's access when that happens. That's kinda fun.
12:19.23DaemonaBOFH !
12:19.25Cartaslol
12:19.55MikkDaemona: Ohhh yes. Many years of practice!
12:20.09MikkThey don't gare give me op in wowace :S
12:20.18SunTsuMikk: A damn shame there is no Remote Strangulation Protocol, right? ;)
12:20.46MikkI built a mangonel LART that i could fire by opening my cd tray at work
12:20.52Daemonawhat you dont have a USB- based electroshock module?
12:20.56Mikkcupholder.exe in the start menu & let the fun commence
12:21.37MikkI also added a webcam that shot pictures for a few seconds while I fired. Got some great mugshots :)
12:22.24Mikk"Hai, can you help me with this...." *THWAKK*
12:22.34Mikk"THE SIGN SAYS BUSY!"
12:23.16MikkThough it kinda backfired because guys that got larted started sending more victims so they got to laugh at something too
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12:33.39Ixnorp<Arsonide> http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6159/howiui2008betaeh0.jpg <- hmm what totem mod is that to the right of the mini-map?
12:34.39kenlyrichmm... I need something to make button count text readable
12:35.09mitch0glasses?
12:36.08kenlyricthey are tiny
12:36.11kenlyricI will stab you
12:36.58kenlyricactually, they're not tiny they're just poorly contrasted
12:37.09mitch0fontoutline?
12:37.15kilrogglxnorp: I think  that is Enhancer
12:37.17kenlyricprobably all I need
12:37.42xyuMikk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pawa2-OmcdE
12:38.21mitch0kenlyric: check out cooldowntogo for a nice readable cooldown counter ;)
12:38.32Ixnorpkilrogg: I'll check it out when the servers come back up.  Thanks.
12:38.46Ozguli`That UI's way too scifi for me
12:39.55kenlyriccooldowns are fine
12:40.02kenlyrici'm talking button count
12:40.04xyuhmm i need a better timetodie addon.  Predicts bosses death time.  Or maybe something that just saves previous death times for my raid  >_<
12:40.17kenlyrichow many bandages I have left, etc.
12:40.21mitch0ah
12:40.33kenlyricspecifically use it for the armaments quest to see if I have five yet :)
12:40.49kenlyricstupid non-tracking quest items
12:41.04mitch0kenlyric: there is a fubar plugin for that
12:41.09mitch0(or used to be)
12:41.19kenlyricyeah yeah
12:41.23mitch0factionitemsfu or somesuch
12:41.32mitch0kept forgetting it then removed it ;)
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12:44.08CIA-3903Jebus905 * r69863 10Cartographer_Minimap_Coords/ (. Cartographer_Minimap_Coords.toc):
12:44.08CIA-39Cartographer_Minimap_Coords:
12:44.08CIA-39- Updated TOC X-Category
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12:49.57Orionshockgg i hate doing dkp systems...
12:50.03Orionshock-.- setting a new one up...
12:50.47mitch0find a casual guild ;)
12:51.08Orionshocki did
12:51.11Orionshockthen we started SSC
12:51.21Orionshockand /roll'ing on loot started to cause drama
12:51.25mitch0pff
12:51.50Chompersespically when the guy who logs in every two weeks gets the first piece of t5
12:52.19mitch0and most likely he'll never get another loot for 4 months...
12:52.30mitch0loot drama sucks
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12:54.27kenlyriccasual guilds have much more complicated loot systems than serious ones
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12:54.44mikmakenlyric: our guild is different. /roll rules
12:54.49mitch0our loot system is /roll
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12:54.55kenlyricnot truly casual
12:55.07mitch0I play every 2 weeks :)
12:55.09mikmaand, it has worked really, really well
12:55.10kenlyricbe more casual
12:55.52kenlyricsorry, new style casual, the ones that raid 20 hours a week to kill void reaver
12:56.36Hobbywhoa wait
12:56.39Hobbyyou can kill that guy?
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12:56.45Chompersi've always wanted to try a council
12:57.04Chompersand give out loot to help raid progress
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12:58.31fryyou are going to do unfairly and piss off your guild members
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12:59.21kenlyricnuts to fair
12:59.25kenlyricthis is isn't first grade
13:00.36Grum<Orionshock> and /roll'ing on loot started to cause drama <-- you just asked for it
13:00.44kenlyricthrow the ball to the guy that can sink it
13:00.56Chompersyes fry
13:01.02mitch0nothing beat /roll and a good rollhack addon
13:01.06mitch0beats
13:01.09Grumhehe
13:01.11Hobbyhigh roller!
13:01.21GrumSuperHighRoller
13:01.32Chompersi will be unfair, some players are better than others
13:01.45Chompersthe shit ones can have gear after us good players
13:02.06kenlyricon the other hand, gearing to maximize raid ability isn't that useful in a terribad guild anyway.
13:02.12kenlyricso you might as well be fair.
13:02.12frywell as long as you can accurately determine the shit-ness of a player, sure
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13:02.24HobbyIt's true, and it often ups the raid's dps more than giving it to the lesser-geared player
13:02.59Chompersthe druid that runs to the main tank on azgalor
13:03.03HobbyIf i do 8% of the DPs and they do 5%, a increase to my base stats will often result in more damage output for the raid than a increase to theirs
13:03.09Chompershe would not be getting gear if it were up to me
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13:06.32SunTsuHobby: That depends ony why they do only 5% of the DPS. If they only that low because they are lacking stats, well...
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13:10.16CIA-3903Jebus905 * r69864 10cooldowntimers2_xsc/ (. CooldownTimers2_XSC.lua CooldownTimers2_XSC.toc): cooldowntimers2_xsc: initial commit
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13:14.36MikkIn my experience, a low geared player with skills will still outdps a woohoo geared player that sucks.
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13:16.01SunTsuMikk: Yeah, but a skilled player with low gear will be outdpsed by a skilled player with great gear ;)
13:16.54Grumnot completely true
13:17.39Grumits all fake! ><
13:17.41Grumcries and runs away
13:17.48CIA-3903Zimran * r69866 10zimGreed/ (. zimGreed.lua zimGreed.toc):
13:17.48CIA-39zimGreed: initial commit
13:17.48CIA-39- Automatically greeds all BoE greens.
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13:19.18GrumWhat is a good (working) loot tracker? (I do not care for exports to whatever DKP system, i just want to see who looted what)
13:21.29MikkGrum: Enable chat log? :P
13:21.41Grumchatlog logs loot? O.o
13:21.45HobbySunTsu: It still applies, a 4% boost in stats for me, factored out in me doing 8% of total, is better than a 6% boost in stats to someong doing 5% of total
13:21.50stew_aCTRaidtracker does it fairly well
13:21.57Hobbysomeone*
13:22.27MikkGrum: 2/2 00:25:38.875  You receive loot: Silk Clothx3.
13:22.38Mikk2/2 00:25:35.765  Jerek receives loot: An'Alleum Power Stone.
13:22.48Grumhmm k Mikk, that will do
13:23.13Grumstew_a: anything with 'CTRaid' in the name should be killed
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13:25.59stew_aits not as bad as the CTmod stuff tbh
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13:27.08luxuswhat i have todo if i want to make sorrens timer compatible with LMS-3.0 instead of sharedmedialibs
13:28.10Grumluxus: support SharedMedia, nothing else :)
13:28.30Grumas SharedMedia supports SharedMedia2, LibSharedMedia-3.0 orso ><
13:28.31Grumits magic
13:28.36luxus?
13:28.39ramozso
13:28.51ramozit turns out the badgevendor only sells shit
13:28.56ramoz=(
13:29.03Ellipsiswhy would you want to spend badges on that
13:29.03Ellipsiseww
13:29.10ramozyeah!
13:29.14kenlyricI make my own
13:29.27luxussorry i think you misunderstand me.. sorrenstimer use LSM-1.0 and i want to hack it to 3.0 to get rid of 1.0
13:29.47kenlyricramoz: badge vendor doesn't sell shit if you've only mastered kara and gruul, like half the raiding the population :)
13:29.58mitch0luxus: check out the API differences?
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13:30.14ramozkenlyric: yeah, i would imagine i'd be pissed if i were in t5 gear still, cause it kinda rocks
13:30.27luxusmitch0: i am not really good in lua :D i hope i just have to switch some lines ;D
13:30.38mitch0then better not touch it...
13:31.02sag_ich_nichtsigh
13:31.20sag_ich_nichtangelistas revenge is a better melee ring than the ring from bloodboil OR the eternal champion ring
13:31.27sag_ich_nichtso: no, he doesn't just sell shit at all
13:31.38Ellipsissits on sag_ich_nicht
13:31.42luxusbut the ring have NO hit :(
13:32.07ramozok one good melee item only good for MS warriors
13:32.13luxusrogue hitcap is on 368.. i need alot of hit :D
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13:32.21ramoz:D
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13:32.39FelthHello
13:33.01Grumall the badge-vendor stuff is ok but not 'the gear you want' if you are in t5+
13:33.03luxusdoes anyone want fun? and switch sorrens  timer to use LSM-3.0?
13:33.14Grumbut for some stuff you just take a hit on some stats like the weapons
13:33.22Grumthose are just the main source of dps for some classes
13:33.37Grumor a shadowpriest/affliction priest taking the 247 spelldmg dagger
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13:33.48luxusGrum: i am on t5/t6 and i buy waist and legs
13:34.11Grumluxus: they are 'ok' but are missing stuff you get from tier items
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13:34.24Grumyou end up gimped on some stat if you get em
13:34.31luxusGrum: not really.. they are better then t6
13:34.39luxusfor rogues
13:35.04Grumright
13:35.14Grumso you say the t6 chest/pants do not have +hit?
13:35.24luxusthe girdle is the second best after the t6 girdle
13:35.40luxusthe legs are even better then t6
13:35.56FelthAnyone who got some time for newbie addon questions ? :)
13:36.15luxuswith the badged legs i get more then 40 hit :D
13:36.24luxusFelth: just ask ...
13:37.02FelthOk, to start with. How do people who make wow addons try them out? Need to run wow all the time or is there some other way to see that everything in the code is working as it should?
13:37.18FelthAnd is there any good LUA editor with syntax highlight etc?
13:37.32Grumwtf, why arent there any cloth belts added?
13:37.37GrumFelth: vim?
13:37.39GotaiI use the lua interpreter for some stuff and WoW for the rest.
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13:38.01stew_afelth notepad++ is good too
13:38.02luxusFelth: textmate under macosx :D
13:38.04FelthGrum: Well, i dont have VIM for Vista =[
13:38.06Tigerdyrvim, uedit32, and /reloadui is your friend.
13:38.11GrumFelth: you run wow with a minimal amount of addons (use ACP or similar to manage that from inside wow)
13:38.11luxusnotepad ++ then
13:38.12Hotphoenixcould someone take a look at prat, i have to move the prat_modules folder out manually when i use wau
13:38.16WobinFelth: Gvim =)
13:38.17GrumFelth: 'VIM for Vista' ?
13:38.29Grumjust get gvim or if you please cygwin
13:38.34luxusHotphoenix: try chatter :D
13:38.37TigerdyrGrum: synonym for Word ;-)
13:38.46FelthI
13:38.49Wobinpft
13:38.49luxusFelth: use notepad++
13:38.54Wobinlike anyone uses the latest Office
13:38.54Hotphoenixnew updater mod?
13:38.59Hotphoenixprogram*
13:39.01Felthluxus: Thanks, will try it out =)
13:39.15luxusHotphoenix: no a better prat replacement!
13:39.37FelthGrum: Seams like alot of hassle, ofc i know what cygwin is etc. If i ran wow in linux i would use VIM, but not when im on my workstation in Windows.
13:39.43Hotphoenixlol i'm ok with prat would just like the wau file sorted so it moves the modules to the right place :)
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13:40.01FelthIm chocked by the ammount of memory usage Prat has :\
13:40.03GrumHotphoenix: run the .batfile manually, WAU should have done that afaik
13:40.07FelthRealy nice addon otherwise
13:40.09GrumFelth: then use Chatter
13:40.21FelthWill try it :)
13:40.23mitch0felth: I couldn't live without gvim on windows...
13:40.27Grumsame
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13:40.37Grumwindows is massive fail .. without VIM .. CRAI
13:40.40FelthWell, i never code on windows.
13:40.45FelthGuess this will be a start.
13:40.52FelthIm always on my linux box otherwise.
13:41.02mitch0felth: you can try eclipse too, although it's lua mode is not stellar...
13:41.14Grumi just shell out to a box i have and have the normal dev-env =D
13:41.54FelthO.o
13:42.47kenlyricnotepad++ really is sufficient
13:43.14FelthGuess runing WoW in Linux is perfect for addon crafting, but my computer broke down not long ago so im on a borrowed laptop atm.
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13:44.02ben__gvim on Windows is not so bad
13:44.30Grumanything that is not vim is bad .. for the reason its not vim :D
13:44.31FelthGot Notepad++ now gonna try it out :)
13:45.11Felthtbh, havent read anything about lua so far, just hopeing it has some logic to it as all other languages.
13:45.18FelthShouldnt be too hard figuring out how it works.
13:46.08Grumhaha
13:46.11Grumits different
13:46.25sag_ich_nicht[15:31] <luxus> but the ring have NO hit :( <--why the fuck would i need hit? oO
13:46.25Grumlua> if 0 then "true" else "false" end
13:46.25lua_botGrum: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"true"'
13:46.28FelthHas no similarity with some other language?
13:46.35Grumlua> if 0 then print("true") else print("false") end
13:46.35lua_botGrum: true
13:46.36sag_ich_nicht[15:32] <luxus> rogue hitcap is on 368.. i need alot of hit :D <--no it isn't you noob
13:46.42WobinI use gvim all the time on windows
13:46.44Grumlua> if false then print("true") else print("false") end
13:46.44lua_botGrum: false
13:46.48Grumlua> if nil then print("true") else print("false") end
13:46.48lua_botGrum: false
13:46.53Grumlua> if nil == false then print("true") else print("false") end
13:46.53lua_botGrum: false
13:47.00sag_ich_nicht395 is cap
13:47.01Grumenjoy ;)
13:47.26luxussag_ich_nicht: yes but with combat spec 368
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13:47.31luxusae
13:47.32Elkanokagaro, you lost me :/
13:47.35luxusno wrong
13:47.40Felthlua> for i in `cat /dev/null`;do echo $i > /dev/pts/1;done
13:47.41lua_botFelth: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '`'
13:47.43Felth=[
13:47.45luxusbut the hitcap is 368 i am 100% sure :D
13:47.46sag_ich_nichtluxus: no, that's with the +3 hittalent.
13:47.50sag_ich_nicht*3%
13:47.53sag_ich_nichthttp://sp00n.pytalhost.com/wow/weaponskill.htm
13:47.56sag_ich_nichtgo calculate it yourself
13:47.57WobinFelth: It's Lua_bot for a reason
13:48.04FelthWobin: haha xP
13:48.07sag_ich_nichtjust leave the weaponskill at 350
13:48.13kagaroI was remarking to the prev post about users setting up linkage
13:48.32luxusDual-wield auto-attack, with 5/5 Precision (Rogue talent): 363 hit rating
13:48.42luxushttp://www.wowwiki.com/Hit
13:48.43Felthlua_bot> hello = "Hello world"; print(hello);
13:48.45sag_ich_nicht5/5 precision is how much +hit?
13:48.50Felthi suq
13:48.51sag_ich_nichtluxus: that article is assold
13:49.17luxuslol
13:49.23luxuslast update on 2.3
13:49.34Felthlua_bot> hello="Hello world" print(hello)
13:49.50luxusbut wait.. i check elitest jerks
13:49.51chdstVim in winders: http://cream.sourceforge.net/home.html
13:50.07chdstIt might seem like crap at first, but it has an "expert mode" that is, in fact, vim.
13:50.13sag_ich_nichtokay fine :P
13:50.19chdstFor us experts, I suppose.
13:50.20sag_ich_nichtthen it's 363
13:50.26sag_ich_nichtnot 368
13:50.26mitch0chdst: why not use vanilla gvim then?
13:50.27sag_ich_nicht:P
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13:50.41Grumchdst: cream is crap
13:50.41luxusAuto-attack, 5/5 Precision: 363
13:50.50luxushttp://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16940-roguecraft_101_a/
13:51.04luxussag_ich_nicht: ok ok 363 :-P but not 39x
13:51.14FelthCan someone point me in the dirrection of some "first-wow-addon-for-dummies" guide?
13:51.38FelthNeed some ground to stand on.
13:51.46chdstIt's actually not crap, but I'll leave it out there as the suggestion that it is.
13:52.01mitch0try to find an existing addon that does something similar to what you want to do
13:52.08chdstI also don't really feel the urge to justify or explain how I use it here...use it or don't. :)
13:52.24mitch0won't
13:52.34GrumFelth: errrr there isn't much available :P
13:52.41chdstcheers mitch0 on with grand exuberance
13:53.00stew_afelthL http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_Earth_to_create_a_QuestLog is good for a simple start, or http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon for a guide to ace2 addons
13:53.09ben__"Using Earth"?
13:53.37mitch0sounds devious
13:53.46CIA-3903broesel01 * r69867 10Quiet_Npc/ (8 files):
13:53.47CIA-39Quiet_Npc
13:53.47CIA-39- Schergrat und Schattenmondtal geaddet
13:53.47CIA-39- Npc's geaddet
13:53.49FelthGrum: I've noticed, been googling comming up with 99% crap :\
13:54.01GrumFelth: its not easy to start :)
13:54.07clad|officeFelth: if you can wait two weeks, buy the book
13:54.16clad|officeit'll be exactly what you're looking for
13:54.16FelthBuy a book x_x ?
13:54.19Felthrofl =\
13:54.21clad|office~wowprogramming
13:54.21purlhmm... wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons, a book written by Cladhaire, Kaelten and Cogwheel.  It serves as a technical reference for the WoW API and customization system (Due out Early 2008). http://tinyurl.com/2vtlya
13:54.24clad|officeIm' not joking
13:54.29FelthHope you mean ebook
13:54.34Felthand buy with wow gold.
13:54.35clad|officeno, i mean a physical book
13:54.40clad|officealrighty then
13:54.45clad|officeif you're gonna be a twat, have fun googling
13:54.50Felthkek ;D
13:54.52clad|officewhat the hell is wrong with people
13:54.53Felthty :)
13:55.12FelthI kinda enjoy googling =[
13:55.21clad|officegrats
13:55.28Felthstew_a: thx btw
13:55.29clad|officeyou asked for information, I gave it to you
13:56.34mitch0clad: does that book cover/promote any frameworks?
13:56.43clad|officeno, there's no need for that
13:56.51clad|officejust straight up teaches you Lua and writing addons
13:57.05clad|officethere are two chapters on using libraries
13:57.15mitch0LibStub?
13:57.23clad|officeit mentions LibStub
13:57.24clad|officewhy?
13:57.37clad|officeframeworks get in the way of teaching someone addon development
13:57.38cogwheelif you go to the wiley site you can see the full ToC  & index
13:57.38mitch0just curious about how dated it is :)
13:57.49clad|officemitch0: i was still altering the text less than a montha go
13:57.59cogwheelhttp://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470229810.html-
13:58.06clad|officeframeworks don't have much of a place in teaching how to write addons
13:58.10cogwheelhttp://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470229810.html (sry... extra dash at the end there)
13:58.12clad|officein my opinion
13:58.24mitch0well, they do make some mundane tasks a lot easier...
13:58.40clad|officesure, no one is denyign that
13:58.45clad|officebut that's now "how to write an addon"
13:58.47mitch0I wouldn't like to code up the options handling stuff for my addons for example
13:58.52clad|officethen you are lazy
13:58.56clad|officeand that's fine, use a library
13:59.10clad|officewe'll show you how to do it manually so you can appreciate why teh library was written
13:59.12mitch0sure I am, I'm a programmer for heaven's sake! :)
13:59.13clad|officehiding details from people is bad.
13:59.51mitch0no details are really hidden with frameworks though (if you are curious enough)
13:59.58clad|officewe're talking about beginners here.
13:59.59HobbySo you think programming a web application in .Net, Ruby, PHP, etc is lazy and we shoudl stick to C/C++?
14:00.03clad|officeoh jesus
14:00.04clad|officeno i never said that
14:00.05ben__Hobby: Yes
14:00.09mitch0clad: anyway, best of luck with the book thing
14:00.13Hobbythat's what i'm hearing
14:00.14clad|officebut this isn't a book about writing addon using frameworks
14:00.16clad|officeits a book abotu writnig addons
14:00.21clad|officeHobby: then you're hearing what you want to hear
14:00.24cogwheeleveryone seems to have missed clad|office's "and that's fine"
14:00.34FelthHmm
14:00.35clad|officeHobby: The book isn't titled "How to write addons using ZOMG ACE"
14:00.45clad|officeits called "A guide and reference to writing WoW Addons"
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14:00.53cogwheels/to/for/ :P
14:00.55Grumyou will get better writing it without frameworks first, you will get stuff done faster if you start with frameworks, you can get help here, you do have shitloads of code available but you will not know which code is good and which isn't ...
14:00.58clad|office:P
14:01.00Hobbywasn't talking about the book, it's the reference to using frameworks as being lazy
14:01.09cogwheelHobby: by very definition, it is...
14:01.16clad|officeand i have no prblem with that
14:01.17cogwheelyou're assuming there's something wrong with being lazy
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14:01.18clad|officeuse them all you want
14:01.20clad|officethat's what i've said
14:01.21mitch0clad: I just fail to see the actual target audiance, but that's probly just 'cos of my biased POV
14:01.36clad|officemitch0: ... the target audience is every single addon developer and those who want to be addon developers
14:01.40GotaiI'd read it probably
14:01.40Felth## Interface: 20400, now?
14:01.42clad|officehow is that difficult to see?
14:01.55mikmaclad|office: "This price is valid for Finland. Change location to view local pricing and availability." yey
14:02.11cogwheelmitch0: it's the difference between a "windows programming book" and an "MFC programming book"
14:02.14clad|officeIriel could learn things from the book.  People who have been writing addons since Alpha have learned things from the book.
14:02.17clad|officethats the whole point of it.
14:02.28stew_afelth: yep 20400
14:02.37FelthThanks again :)
14:02.53mitch0clad: again, good luck with it, hope it does well
14:02.55FelthFound perfect name for my first addon, PMS.
14:03.02clad|officemeh, i'm hardly concerned abotu the money or sales
14:03.04clad|officethat's not why i wrote the book
14:03.07clad|officebut thanks.
14:03.22AmadeoDon't believe him, clad's swimming in money!
14:03.26mitch0felth: finding a good name is 90% of the job done! grats
14:03.33Felthmitch0 rofl yeh ;D
14:03.41AmadeoDid you ever see Ducktales as a kid? clad is Mr. Scrooge!
14:03.42clad|officeI have $300 in my US account, and just paid $2,000 in taxes on my American Express
14:03.49mitch0I spend way too much time naming my objects/functions ;)
14:03.50clad|officeso thats quite amusing to hear
14:03.53Amadeolol
14:04.13Hobbyhe could be swimming in IOUs
14:04.13FelthIt all makes sence, im gonna make an addon wich helps me a bit creating pug groups for Maggy and Gruul, and all the whisper spam always gives me PMS, and PMS stands for Pug Made Simple ofc =D
14:04.21Felthstew_a: Smart ey ? :D
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14:08.28EllipsisI don't think I'd join a pug organized by PMS
14:08.36Felthxd
14:08.42Ellipsisjust sayin'
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14:08.53FelthWell, my pugs usualy clear out.
14:09.03FelthCleared Maggy and Gruul 3 times this reset.
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14:13.10AmadeoDid Polarina ever start continuing that anti-spam addon?
14:13.58ben__<+clad|office> meh, i'm hardly concerned abotu the money or sales <- So are you going to put up a free download of it?
14:14.04Felthehm
14:14.22clad|officeben__: no, because I can't.
14:14.42clad|officeHowever, we fought extremely hard to be able to provide the entire API reference and a number of other utilitities to the community, for free.
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14:15.27chdstclad|office: Will there be an API reference in the book, current at publish time, or am I reading that wrong?
14:15.37clad|officeits accurate up until 2.3
14:15.42clad|officeand the online reference will be 2.4
14:15.58ben__Strange, I never had any problems providing API references to people
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14:16.09clad|officeben__: what are you implying?
14:16.13clad|officeor trying to imply
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14:16.23ben__That your wording of that was pretty funny
14:16.30clad|officewhy?
14:16.31sag_ich_nicht~sex
14:16.32purlupdatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/
14:16.41Daemonaand you are splitting hairs ben__
14:16.46sag_ich_nichtcopy paste to a different network
14:16.51clad|officethe API reference is copyright by us and the publisher.  We are providing it to the community.
14:16.58clad|officeI don't understand what your problem is, particularly
14:17.24AmadeoI always see ben__ saying stuff when these books are brought up :P
14:17.46Daemonaamagaaawd its the intarwab its for freeeee
14:17.48clad|officewell i wish he would just come out and state his opinions rather than making odd comments here and there
14:18.13clad|officeits easy for people to criticise what they don't understand
14:18.19chdstI don't know why it seems like you're getting trolled out here, clad, but I love killing trees so I'll definitely be picking it up.
14:18.21AmadeoI don't understand all the hostility anyways
14:18.28Daemonaand ask for free stuff when they dont know how much work you put in stuff....
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14:19.23ben__Asking for free stuff seems not that unreasonable when the creator of the stuff does not care about sales
14:19.41clad|officeand you're getting it, grats
14:20.08clad|officebut hopefully you realize how these things worked
14:20.34clad|officeI quit my job and worked for four months straight on the material along with cogwheel and kaelten, and we don't hold sole copyright of the material
14:20.37chdstSo, on the Amazon page..."Customers Who Bought This Item Also Bought" a big pile of bullshit because it's not out yet.
14:20.42chdstJust throwing that out there. :D
14:20.48clad|officechdst: no, because we have preorders
14:20.49clad|officequite a few
14:20.52chdstYeah
14:20.54chdstI fail
14:20.55clad|officeso they've already bought the book
14:20.57chdstAnd need to preorder. :)
14:21.08chdst~lart chdst
14:21.08purlhereby declares chdst a troll
14:21.17clad|officeben__: Is there any particular reason you're being antagonistic about this?
14:21.28clad|officeEither buy the book or don't.  Either use the online reference, or don't.
14:21.28Kalman|It's the internet and being a dick is fun?
14:21.35Kalman|Just guessing.
14:21.45HjalteKalman|: Dotx3 seems like a really nice addon. I just wish there was a possibility of removing the empty space on the bars, but I guess that's not possible due to the way candy bars work?
14:21.53Kalman|Hjalte: How do you mean?
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14:23.13HjalteKalman|: It'd be nice to eg. have the name tag in the left side and the timer in the far right side. Or just have it the current way, but have the timer start all the way at the icon, not a few inches in :)
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14:23.57Kalman|Mmm.  I can look, should be possible to move the icon inside of the bar.
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14:24.50FelthHow would i make an even trigger on a whisper or similar?
14:25.18mikmammm, internetdicks
14:25.22FelthDon't mind reading it myself if someone tells me function or so.
14:25.26ben__Felth: Register the CHAT_MSG_WHISPER event
14:25.35ben__RegisterEvent is a method of UI Frames
14:26.03Felthgoogled it, ty :)
14:26.28Kalman|Hjalte: Hrm.  The API doesn't provide a place-inside method, but it'd be easy enough to do via override, I think.
14:26.56Kalman|I'll play with it when servers unfuck themselves if I can remember to.
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14:27.26HjalteKalman|: The reason I thought you couldn't change how those bars look, are because they look the same as when those bars are used in every other addon :)
14:27.52ZyndromeAntiarc : latest update "AceLocale-3.0: Chatter: Missing entry for 'Chatter Settings'"
14:28.08Kalman|Hjalte: Well, I'm already semi-hacking CandyBar to make it work the way I want for time > time bars, might as well do other horrible things to it.  :)
14:29.07HjalteKalman|: I like the way the bars change colour for target :) And how lightweight (I hope) it is.
14:30.40Kalman|I'm really happy with the target-highlighting.  Lightweight... I hope so?  I tried profiling and it seemed to be, but I don't know enough about profiling/coding to say for sure.
14:30.45Felthben__: this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_WHISPER"); ?
14:30.48Felthkinda?
14:31.09stew_athats it felth yep
14:31.31Kalman|Felth: You'll also need to make sure an event handler is defined.
14:31.50Kalman|http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) is a good base reference.
14:31.58FelthGod damn these script languages -;|
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14:32.35FelthKalman|: Yeh reading there, trying to figure it out.
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14:33.27FelthFunctions seam to be a tidy bit strange in LUA.
14:33.47ben__Why, they work almost exactly like in javascript
14:33.59FelthOnly read php/c/c++
14:34.10FelthAnd ofc VB, but thats.... Yeh VB.
14:37.12CIA-3903silviu * r69868 10cyCircled_Vol/cyCircled_Vol.toc: cyCircled_Vol: cyCircled works with current patch, so does this module. Bumped toc to 20400
14:37.27AmadeoI have so many blues on my 23 Hunter, probably the most I've had at that level :P
14:37.34kilroggoh, how nice it was if Javascript had meta tables ...
14:37.40ckknight_Felth: it's lua or Lua, not LUA
14:38.00AmadeoL.U.A.
14:38.07Amadeocackles
14:38.15kilroggLooaah
14:38.23Prof_Albert|_u4
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14:38.38Felthckknight_: ty for info :|
14:38.50FelthSensitive subject xD
14:39.05ckknight_lulza
14:40.32mitch0ckk: any news about parrot? :)
14:41.03ckknight_yea, curse has me working on roughly 7 projects or so, all of which have reached supercritical status or something like that
14:41.17mitch0is parrot one of them? :)
14:41.26KaaosaIs the generator going to explode?
14:41.29AmadeoParrot choked on crackers and is currently in veterinary care...we'll let you know when he's ok
14:41.49ckknight_no, mitch0
14:41.50Ellipsisnibbles Amadeo's cracker
14:42.01AmadeoI ain't no cracka, yo!
14:42.02ZhinjioG'morning, Ellipsis
14:42.05mitch0just cp -R MSBT Parrot; sed s/MSBT/Parrot/g in the meantime ;)
14:42.14Ellipsisevening Zhinjio ;)
14:42.21Zhinjiois it? I can't tell anymore.
14:42.26ZhinjioI am at one with time.
14:42.27Ellipsis'tis for me
14:42.34Psychockknight_: You should tell Curse you need a code monkey to help you type faster and move the mouse with his tail.
14:42.50ckknight_...
14:43.04AmadeoHe already has a code monkey :P
14:43.06PsychoOf course, then I'm sure you'd be working on 14 addons with supercritical status.
14:43.12SunTsuMSBT is nice, just buggy for my druid. Always warns me that I am out of mana when I am in any form besides Caster
14:43.18ckknightI'm not working on addons now
14:43.21PsychoIs his name Helpo McBananas?
14:43.28kenlyricSunTsu: not a bug, that's a feature!
14:43.30kenlyric;)
14:43.45EllipsisSunTsu: but you _are_ out of mana. look, you don't have any mana left!
14:43.46Amadeokenlyric: You're Brad McQuaid, aren't you?
14:43.47PsychoAh, well then.
14:43.51SunTsukenlyric: Then it's a breand new feature, introduced with the 2.4-version ;)
14:44.10SunTsuEllipsis: Oh, reight, I am ;)
14:44.11mitch0heh, the wowace/ is mighty cluttered :)
14:44.16SunTsuright even
14:44.16[eu]gunderSure low mana in cat form was so annoying I disabled the entire thing
14:44.26Daemonayou know ... its a curse with curse
14:44.35Daemonawonder when it'll grow tentacles and eat us all ;)
14:44.42AmadeoOr make...movies
14:44.48Felthslams head in table.
14:45.02Ellipsisfilms it and puts the video on youtube
14:45.07DaemonaFelth better recycle that table, everything else is waste of tables
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14:45.18Daemonacausing overhead and stuff
14:45.26Felth;[
14:45.35mitch0recycling tables is overrated
14:45.43Prof_Alberthmm guess I have to try MSBT, and find out what it can do better. atm parrot is working fine for me.
14:45.45AmadeoYou have to protect the enviornment
14:45.52Ellipsisrecycling is for hippies
14:45.52Hobbyare the Natur cast bars dead now?
14:45.57AmadeoI hug trees
14:46.08[eu]gunderI am a tree ^^
14:46.14Ellipsisyour mom's a tree
14:46.21Amadeohugs [eu]gunder's mom
14:46.33[eu]gunder:p
14:46.35AmadeoHobby: I think there's a working beta
14:46.38PsychoProf_Albert: I used MSBT and didn't much like it. The hacked-up Parrot works fine for me, if it does the same for you I'd recommend just sticking with it. Blah blah, personal opinion.
14:46.55AmadeoHow dare you hack up a Parrot!
14:46.59HobbyI'm using it atm, but after a month with no updates and few fixes for 2.4, I'm assuming it's dead?
14:47.15FelthThis is starting too hurt my head.
14:47.16DaemonaProf_Albert -> MSBT power > http://www.vimeo.com/741570
14:47.20[eu]gundermmmh Parrot-paté!
14:47.23AmadeoHobby: I'm not sure, I need an alternative anyways, it's too fat :P
14:47.46HobbyAnything that gives me the info it used to I'm up for trying out
14:47.47kenlyricthis parrot has ceased to be.
14:47.50PsychoAmadeo: It was to save his life. We needed to rebuild him. We had the technology. And now he makes cool "dododododododododododo" sounds when he moves.
14:48.06ckknightHobby: I'm busy, I wouldn't call Parrot dead
14:48.13Hobbynamely crowd control breaks, cooldowns and respawn timers (which I'm using incubate for now)
14:48.25AmadeoArnold Parrotzinator
14:48.26Hobbyckknight: talking about NECB
14:48.31ckknightoh
14:48.37ckknightshrugs
14:48.52CIA-3903dodge 07rewrite * r69869 10CoolDownButtons/cdb_base.lua: CoolDownButtons: fixed flashing color for expiring cooldowns
14:48.52SeerahNECB isn't dead either
14:48.54kenlyricI think i'm far too dumb to take up the mantle of bulkmail2
14:49.06[eu]gunderAmadeo: Roboparrot?
14:49.10Seerahit's in the middle of a rewrite by new authors, Hobby
14:49.12kenlyricit be big mod
14:49.23Psycho[eu]gunder: I was thinking more "the six million dollar Parrot"
14:49.24HobbySeerah: ah, they are actually working on it?
14:49.30Seerahof course
14:49.34[eu]gunderOh yeah ^^
14:49.36Hobbybeen a month since any updates, so I was curious
14:49.37AmadeoParrot says, "I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle."
14:49.47Psychoyahr clohs. Gib dem to me.
14:49.51Seerahcheck the comments on wowinterface, Hobby, you'll see reports.  There's a google code page, also
14:49.57kenlyricI don't think he says any of those things
14:50.12AmadeoOh yes he does!
14:50.14[eu]gunderwow Parrot is bad ass
14:50.28Hobbywil do, right now, thanks
14:50.39kenlyricso he does
14:51.01AmadeoParrot can unscramble an egg
14:51.23PsychoAmadeo: I've been itching to replace necb too. All I use it for is dot timers which seems like a waste of addon bigness. Have you tried dotdotdot?
14:51.41AmadeoPsycho: No, are you trying to trick me?!
14:52.08AmadeoI would have named mine something like...More DoTs!
14:52.18Ellipsis.
14:52.21Kalman|I think I should rename it to Ellipsis.
14:52.35Kalman|Just so that everytime someone talks about it, ellipsis gets a highlight.  :p
14:52.39EllipsisI've always wanted an addon named after me
14:52.44EllipsisI don't use highlights, so that's not a problem
14:52.52Kalman|Damn.  My master plan, foiled.
14:52.53PsychoI think you should rename it to ecstasy-infused acid trip sex magic 4000.
14:52.57ben__Sorry for failing to respond earlier, I was distracted by RL work.
14:52.57PsychoI bet you'd get more hits.
14:53.07AmadeoPsycho: Then he'd be naming it after me!
14:53.15Seerahrofl
14:53.18Ellipsisit's true
14:53.29EllipsisI've seen Amadeo's driver's license - that's his real name
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14:53.56AmadeoMy middle name is "Oliver"
14:54.06PsychoWell that's just silly.
14:54.10Ellipsisand I like olives
14:54.13Ellipsiswhat a coincidence :D
14:54.17Amadeorofl
14:54.44AmadeoThe problem is I can't drive, since I'm banned in 49 states!
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14:55.35PsychoIs your last name "Bestiality"?
14:55.47AmadeoAsk your dog!
14:55.50Psycho(I figure Alabama)
14:55.53kenlyricbestiality is a sin
14:56.00AmadeoIf someone asked, I swear I was going to say Alabama, rofl
14:56.01kenlyrichaving lunch is a sin
14:56.05Ellipsisthat's not what your mom said last night kenlyric~
14:56.28Ellipsiscareful with the alabama jokes guys, ckknight is sensitive
14:56.45ckknightplays a song on his invisible banjo
14:56.58Ellipsisis it the one about the emo kid?
14:56.59AmadeoYou guys should get infomercial celebrities to promote your addons
14:57.14ckknightI was going for Dueling Banjos, actually
14:57.25kenlyricalways remember that mississippi is worse than alabama.
14:57.31clad|officeRon Popeil loves LightHeaded
14:57.39kenlyricwait friends, there's more
14:57.44Kalman|Antiarc?  I was looking back at your VE testing and something seems off.
14:57.54AmadeoBilly Mays here! Parrot is the one-two punch that your addon collection needs! It scrolls, it rolls.  Look at that shine!
14:58.18Industrial>_> americans
14:58.18Ellipsis"set it and forget it!"
14:58.25Ellipsiswe love you too Industrial
14:58.32mitch0what a bloody slow-news day
14:58.35Industrialokey, I just wanted to hear that :D
14:58.48AmadeoIndustrial: Americans are just mutts anyways
14:58.50Ellipsisgives Industrial a nice big attention-cookie
14:59.09AmadeoI'm Germussian, and who knows what else
14:59.17Seerahhuggles Indie
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14:59.36Ellipsishay no fair
14:59.38EllipsisI want huggles
14:59.44Seerahhuggles Ellipsis
14:59.44Industrialhuggles Seerah
14:59.48Industrialhuggles Ellipsis
14:59.49Industrial:D
14:59.52Ellipsisthree way huggles, woot
14:59.59Seerahgroup huggle!
15:00.00PsychoI'm Disgusting!
15:00.09PsychoHow the hell did I type that.
15:00.18AmadeoPsycho: Want to find out how I got my name?
15:00.29Daemonahaha ... always fun again to buy hardware on ebay... this harddisk only got formated... attached to my unix box via usb it just shows everything ... fun
15:00.30PsychoI meant to type "disgusting" and I was looking at a different window and that's what I got. I rule.
15:00.32Dark_Elffriends dont shake hands, friends hug!
15:00.36PsychoSure, Amadeo.
15:01.09Amadeo$200 Quarterly
15:01.26mitch0daemona: I bet it's full of boring 1s and 0s
15:01.37luxuswhy bigwigs don't use libsink-2.0?
15:02.34AmadeoYou guys seen the company selling a Mac clone? http://www.psystar.com/psystar_openmac_osx86_reinventing_the_wheel.html
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15:04.04Amadeo*crickets*
15:04.46kenlyrichttp://www.crn.com/hardware/207200440
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15:05.04Kalman|Amadeo: The one that's getting sued?
15:05.13Kalman|Maybe they haven't gotten sued yet, actually.
15:05.36Amadeokenlyric: I like this comment
15:05.42Amadeo"Pystar claims that the machine will run Apple's Leopard OS Leopard"
15:06.22*** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl106-134-26.student.uu.se)
15:06.44SeerahIt also says "vanilla" OS X
15:07.00AmadeoI only like chocolate
15:07.03CIA-3903silviu * r69870 10Omen/ (Omen.toc embeds.xml): Omen: Added embeds.xml, with permision from Antiarc
15:07.06Daemonamitch0 ... just boring pics ... and a windows xp
15:07.09AmadeoSo screw them!
15:07.12kenlyrictwist cone, baby
15:07.27AmadeoWith sprinkles?
15:07.29kenlyrictwist my cones and my totems
15:07.37Amadeoand your Bard songs?
15:08.19p3limnow i feel very very dumb
15:08.20kenlyricI don't get it
15:08.24p3limwhich way is vertical?
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15:08.43Amadeokenlyric: EverQuest reference :(
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15:09.33Amadeop3lim: |
15:09.35[eu]gunder~dict vertical
15:09.36p3limty
15:09.40kagarolols at mac clone
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15:10.39AmadeoI love that definition
15:12.32Apoco~seen Elkano
15:12.34purlelkano <i=Elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1h 25m 2s ago, saying: 'kagaro, you lost me :/'.
15:12.46GagorianHow can this Zimran guy mess up a 5 line addon so badly (the zimClock commit a while back)?
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15:12.54GagorianChecks locale OnUpdate
15:12.58GagorianUses globals
15:12.59Gagorianetc
15:13.40CIA-3903next96 * r69871 10Chatter/Localization/koKR.lua:
15:13.40CIA-39Chatter :
15:13.40CIA-39- Add locale koKR
15:13.52Silviu-Gagorian u mean http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8458-zimClock.html ?
15:14.07GagorianWell not sure if that's the same as the wowace commit
15:14.10GagorianBut yes that addon
15:14.26Silviu-Well
15:14.32Silviu-11 lines addon ftw
15:14.33Silviu-;D
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15:15.23GagorianWell if it's utter crap that short length doesn't justify it. Since you could do it much better in the same amount of lines
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15:16.37Julithlua>2^2
15:16.37lua_botJulith: 4
15:16.49Juliththanks lua_bot :)
15:16.54Silviu-;
15:16.56Silviu-;)
15:17.37Felthlua_bot>10^-5000
15:17.37stew_a(where) can i see the SVN commit logs for a particular addon?
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15:18.26Silviu-fish.wowace.com
15:18.41Silviu-or download from files and see changelog file
15:19.08GagorianStraight from his addon
15:19.09Gagorianf:SetScript("OnUpdate", function()
15:19.10Gagorian<PROTECTED>
15:19.10Gagorianf.text:SetText(date(fmt))
15:19.10Gagorianend)
15:19.20Gagorianthat is so wrong
15:19.32Gagorianlocale is always nil, enUS isn't a global variable
15:19.35Gagorianfmt should be local
15:19.44Gagorianand also not set in OnUpdate
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15:23.41Julithlua>25^2
15:23.42lua_botJulith: 625
15:24.14Julithlua>sqrt(1250)
15:24.14lua_botJulith: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'sqrt' (a nil value)
15:24.30ckknightlua>math.sqrt(1250)
15:24.30lua_botckknight: 35.355339059327
15:25.02Juliththanks ckknight :)
15:25.53sag_ich_nicht61.5°C GPU temp under full load are okay for an 8800 Ultra, right? (PCB 54.8°C)
15:26.04Fisker-your mother
15:26.27Silviu-sag_ich_nicht core ?
15:26.48Megalonif you wanna boil up water, 61.5C won't be enough
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15:27.40kenlyriceg would sizzle
15:27.40kenlyric+g
15:27.40sag_ich_nichtSilviu-: GPU core
15:27.43sag_ich_nichtCPU is at 40°C or so
15:27.47sag_ich_nichtnorthbridge too
15:27.54Julithlua>math.min(1,5)
15:27.54lua_botJulith: 1
15:28.01sag_ich_nichtasking about the GPU specifically because i got video tearing again -.-
15:28.09Julithlua>math.min(nil,5)
15:28.09lua_botJulith: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'min' (number expected, got nil)
15:28.43JulithBummer...
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15:29.30Silviu-sag_ich_nicht they can go high to 70 80 and no problem so i think yours is more then ok ;p
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15:29.56sag_ich_nichti know how high they can get.
15:30.27CIA-3903zeksie * r69872 10ZOMGBuffs/ (4 files in 4 dirs): ZOMGBuffs: Fixed an error check giving an error. Go me!
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15:31.37Zeksiefound running fullscreen windowed will often give tearing, even on top end PCs. cos they can't all manage the v-sync
15:32.00Zeksieor even bother trying
15:32.00Silviu-sag_ich_nicht for example my 8800 GTS idles at 48 ( Gpu ) / 57 ( Gpu core ) and under load can go to 60( Gpu ) 70 ( Core )
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15:34.18ramozAntiarc: [17:33:28] Helias feeds Astrapis a [Helias:347Helias feeds Astrapis a |Hitem:27855:0:0:0:0:0:0:-]. Mmm, good stuff.
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15:40.49sag_ich_nichtSilviu-: i know, i'm just getting tearing on sunwell island some of the time
15:40.49sag_ich_nicht:/
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15:41.11AmadeoHow can you see Sunwell Isle through that UI of yours!?
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15:42.42sag_ich_nichtdiaf
15:42.53Grumtackles sag_ich_nicht
15:42.54Apocosag_ich_nicht loves his UI
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15:43.00Apocoleave him alone he gets pissy when you say its ugly
15:43.01Apoco:(
15:43.04Grumsag_ich_nicht's uit sucks badly :)
15:43.09Grumseriously nothing worse than that
15:43.13AmadeoIt's a good thing he loves his UI :P
15:43.15ApocoI've seen worse, trust me.
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15:45.33Fisker-simon the sorcerer is back :O
15:45.58SunTsuFisker-: You're a dirty filthy liar
15:46.06SunTsu*ducks and runs away*
15:46.09sag_ich_nichtApoco
15:46.11sag_ich_nichti get pissy
15:46.14sag_ich_nichtif you talk about an UI
15:46.17sag_ich_nichti don't use anymore
15:46.19Grumpisses on sag_ich_nicht
15:46.23Grumshow your UI!
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15:47.36GrumWhat addon to use as a loot-tracker? (mostly raid-loot)
15:47.46Apocokergoth: Did you mess with TrapWatch?
15:48.06Tularis~seen evilelvis
15:48.07purlevilelvis <n=linuxuse@c-68-43-90-171.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 69d 21h 29m 19s ago, saying: 'notepad++ has autocomplete capability (ctrl+space), but not for lua'.
15:48.17Tularisugh, 70 days :|
15:48.36Grumhehe
15:48.39UhuruIs this possible to install a teamspeak server on a linux shell like that http://www.amdwebhost.com/solutions/shell/ ?
15:48.52Grumwhy not rent a TS server?
15:49.16sag_ich_nichtwhy not use ventrilo.
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15:49.23Uhurutoo expensive
15:49.29Uhurumuch
15:49.30Tularisbecause it's annoying to hear other people
15:49.31GrumUhuru: lol
15:49.56SunTsuUhuru: Schould be possible
15:49.56GrumOMG i'll be skint after spending $7 a month! AMAGAWD! ;D
15:50.05SunTsus/Schould/should/
15:50.08GrumSunTsu: should be but most likely isnt :)
15:50.17Uhurua linux shell is a lot cheaper than a TS server ready to use
15:50.32SunTsuGrum: How will anybody hinder him?
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15:50.50Uhurua TS server in france cost 15 euros a month ...
15:51.00Grumthose boxes are used for shells, therefor massively overloaded by cpu/memhugging processes
15:51.13GrumUhuru: why does it have to be in france?
15:51.19AmadeoMemhugging is like Tree Hugging, but for geeks
15:51.42UhuruGrum : hum, a TS server in america or other country should be laggy no ?
15:51.44Grumhttp://www.darkstarllc.com/ <-- works perfectly and is cheap :)
15:51.49SunTsuGrum: Yeah, he just asked whether he can install it. Whether or not it is usable afterwards will show
15:51.52Uhuruif users are all from france
15:52.03Grumlol SunTsu ;)
15:52.39Uhuruyou think it will not be usable ?
15:53.00[Merc]Balstortortise svn question , if I right click my addon directory LD50_abar and impoirt (intial) in the repository path should I duplicate the name (http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LD50_abar) or does tortise svn put the target directory automagically?
15:53.00SunTsuUhuru: That depends on how loaded the machine is
15:53.26GrumSunTsu: lowcost shell boxes? high ;)
15:53.55Uhurui was using an irc bouncer installed on those shell
15:54.01Uhuruand it worked perfectly
15:54.20SunTsuUhuru: How much load is on the CPU, how much memory and swap exist and what of it is used, what bandwidth you have and such
15:54.20Grum50 Users - $11.59/month .. you get a srever in Paris ..
15:54.29GrumUhuru: lol ...
15:54.41Grumseriously, there is a reason people just rent a vent/ts server
15:54.57SunTsuUhuru: IRC is a text based protocol, you are talking about speech coding and decoding
15:55.00Grumand not a $3/month shell ;)
15:55.05Uhurubecause they do not know how to install a ts server on a linux shell ? ^^
15:55.05CIA-3903borlox 07Borlox * r69873 10Fortress/Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua):
15:55.05CIA-39Fortress:
15:55.05CIA-39* DRYCODED * (wow => bsod )-: )
15:55.05CIA-39- added .tooltipText handler (in Block_OnEnter/Leave)
15:55.05CIA-39- added option to hide the tooltip in combat
15:55.34SunTsuUhuru: Just go ahead, try it. Maybe it works, maybe it won't
15:56.05Uhurui can try one month, $3 will not kill me
15:56.43Grumpoor Uhuru
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15:57.22CIA-3903broesel01 * r69874 10Quiet_Npc/ (4 files):
15:57.22CIA-39Quiet_Npc
15:57.23CIA-39- Npc's geaddet
15:57.23CIA-39- Bugfix
15:57.33Grumgeaddet? OMG
15:57.55Kalman|I really hope he's German.
15:58.04Kalman|Because I like the concept of geaddet as a German word.
15:58.12Julithhe is
15:58.13Kalman|Or really anything prefixed with ge.
15:58.24ben__Well, he has been making commits in German for some time
15:58.30CIA-3903oojoo * r69875 10IHML/locales/locale-deDE.lua:
15:58.30CIA-39IHML:
15:58.30CIA-39- deDE update
15:58.31ben__I just wish he would stop using ' for pluralisation.
15:58.42SunTsuKalman|: He sure is
15:59.09ben__I still have no idea what that addon does
15:59.25ben__all his commits are "NPCs added" or "<some german zone name> added"
15:59.28SumpinFishyDoes someone have a minute to talk about the join/leave raid frames lag issue....
15:59.42SunTsuHe is using what is commonly known in germany as "Deppenapostroph" - "moron's apostroph"
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16:00.16SunTsuben__: It blocks the NPC's chatter
16:00.21CIA-3903dodge 07rewrite * r69876 10CoolDownButtons/ (cdb_base.lua config.lua locales/enUS.lua): CoolDownButtons: readded grow from center feature
16:00.29ben__The voice thing?
16:01.14Kalman|SunTsu: Is that the German version of grocer's apostrophe?
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16:01.20Kalman|Much better name.
16:01.33ben__Kalman|: According to the wikipedia article on it, yes, but it also covers a lot of other misuses
16:01.47ben__Also "moron" is a pretty harsh translation
16:02.38SunTsuben__: Well, I even saw "ei's" one day, so the translation really fits
16:02.57SunTsuben__: And they really meant "eis" - "ice cream"
16:03.22ben__Haha, that is ridiculous
16:03.37ZhinjioI need a nap
16:05.07kergothApoco:  a bit.  not a lot.  going to mess with it more later.  a bit annoyed that the freezing trap effect aura application event doesnt show the freezing trap object as its source
16:05.34Apocolol I know
16:05.49ApocoI did the best I could think of, it only took me like 30m to write though
16:06.10kergothhehe
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16:06.48ben__There ought to be a more efficient way to silent NPCs than to re-override the chat frame message handler for every zone you are silencing people in
16:07.08Apocowtb servers up so I can login
16:07.09Apoco-_-
16:07.19ben__This way is of linear complexity with respect to both the zones and the NPCs in it
16:07.38kergothi just figured i'll watch the mouseover and target changed events and scan for the debuff, once the aura has been applied, so i can record the guid of who -my- trap was applied and only notify when that one is removed.  shouldnt take long to add, just didnt have much time to play around
16:07.45CIA-3903Balstor * r69877 10LD50_abar/ (8 files in 3 dirs):
16:07.45CIA-39LD50_abar
16:07.45CIA-39- Initial checkin 1.7 based
16:07.45kergothben__:  :(
16:08.33ben__Is table access with string keys O(1) or O(log n)?
16:08.40Apoco"i've been using this same mod without updating since pre-bc! WHY DOESNT IT WORK ANYMORE FIX IT FFS!!!!!"
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16:08.44Apocol2update newb
16:08.44Apoco-_-
16:08.56Fisker-btw sag
16:08.58Fisker-damnit
16:09.17ben__"FIX IT AND MAGICALLY APPLY THE FIXED VERSION TO MY COMPUTER"
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16:09.39Fisker-FUCK YEAH ben__
16:09.46Fisker-don't let those morons tell you anything else
16:09.53Fisker-it's your right as customers to complain like hell
16:10.08ben__If only the WoW API had a function to connect to files.wowace.com
16:10.26Fisker-you could always do remote lua execution
16:10.30Fisker-like the n00bs at DBM
16:10.32luxuswtf dogtag is a bitch... why it use so much cpu time :/
16:10.41benluxus: Because lots of addons rely on it?
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16:10.44Hobby"If only the WoW API had a function to connect to files.wowace.com"....to automatically file the complaints?
16:10.46LevitysgirlHey guys, i've never been on here before....but i'm trying to find the best end game guild....is this the right place to find out info??
16:10.46Hobbythat's brilliant
16:10.47exor674ben: O(takes forever n) :P (okay, I'm jist being silly :P)
16:10.54luxusben i just use underhood with it
16:11.01kergothben:  string keys isnt an array, its a hash table, whatever that complexity is, i've always sucked at algos :P
16:11.13benHash tables are supposed to be O(1)
16:11.18SunTsuLevitysgirl: Only if ypu are looking for a addon that finds it for you
16:11.25SunTsus/ypu/you/
16:11.44Levitysgirlk
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16:12.04luxusare there any lightweight hud out there?
16:13.38Apocowow they added a new realm
16:14.23HobbyApoco: eu/us?
16:14.41Apocous-normal
16:14.51Apocoatleast it says "New" on realmlist
16:15.03Hobbyname?
16:15.49ApocoCairne
16:16.11Apocobut it has 70's so either they transfered 70's here or its not new and realmlist is wrong
16:16.12Apocolol
16:16.24Hobbyhaha yeah that one cracks me up
16:16.45Hobbythe New/Medium/Full, etv ratings in the realm list are somehow relative to the population to other servers in the battlegroup
16:17.07HobbyI still don't understand exactly how it works or why in the world it isn't just based on a % capacity or something
16:17.12KiovOnline Date: 2008-03-05 from warcraftrealms
16:17.15AmadeoApoco: What timezone?
16:17.20Apocono idea
16:17.36AmadeoNormal servers are probably the place to be once WotLK comes out
16:17.43AmadeoSince they're copying Dark Age
16:18.01Kalman|Amadeo: They'll still be the raiding backwaters.
16:18.04HobbyI'd just like a server with ya know....uptime :)
16:18.18HobbyOffline for about 7 hours yesterday, another 8 today, yayyy
16:18.27Matrix110hmm
16:18.34AmadeoKalman|: PvP is basically dead these days, but Blizzard won't open up PvE to PvP to help fix it :/
16:18.40Matrix110why am I suddenly inviting people with Shift+Click on their name
16:18.49Matrix110Chatter has is for ALT+Click
16:18.53Matrix110and i disabled that
16:18.53HobbyAmadeo: amen
16:19.02Kalman|Amadeo: PvP is still where most high-end raiding happens, for better or worse.
16:19.22Kalman|And without PvE->PvP, PvE raiding is getting raked over coals in terms of x-server recruiting.
16:19.25AmadeoYeah, but that doesn't really have anything to do with PvP itself :)
16:19.40AmadeoEarly WoW PvP was so much fun
16:19.41Kalman|Well, yeah.  I was talking in the context of the raid game.
16:19.54Kalman|I honestly prefer the PvE ruleset, I just hate the problems it causes us with recruiting.
16:20.04AmadeoNow days PvP servers are practically single player...you walk around and never see anyone
16:20.12AmadeoIf you do see someone, it's a 70 ganking in a lowbie town
16:20.28Apocothats not true
16:20.34Kalman|It's pretty server-dependent.
16:20.35ApocoI gank in 65+ towns :)
16:20.43Apocothey have a chance...ish
16:20.56AmadeoYeah, but I find EST PvP servers are all mostly dead...not completely, but mostly :P
16:21.18Kalman|But even on high-pop PvP realms, there's a lot less in the way of world PvP, since the urge has been pretty efficiently channeled into BGs/arenas.
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16:21.36AmadeoI have some chars on one server that I just stopped playing on...it's literally deserted
16:21.38Apocoto impliment the Blizz Addon Options, do I need to rewrite the config to use it only, or can AceConfig-3 port it over somehow?
16:21.50benReading through the Quiet_Npc code makes me find the German localisation even more ridiculous
16:22.07AmadeoKalman|: Yeah...which is sad, because I really prefer World PvP in any game
16:22.31kergothApoco:  
16:22.33kergoth<PROTECTED>
16:22.34kergoth<PROTECTED>
16:22.36kergothor whatever
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16:22.38AmadeoMore of a surprise element, even in an area that's designated for it
16:22.45kergoththe first arg is what you registered with ace config with
16:22.54kergothsecond is what you'll see in the interface options
16:22.57kergoththird is the parent
16:23.10kergotheach category/subcategory you want has to be registered with the ace config registry seperately
16:23.16Apocoomfg
16:23.41kergothit's real easy, just might have to break up your toplevel group into a few options tables if you want them to be subcategories instead of a tree in the main one
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16:24.34kergoththen if you want to make your slash command open to the interface options rather than a standalone dialog, you can do self:RegisterChatCommand("lootalert", function() InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame(dialog.BlizOptions["LootAlert"].frame) end)
16:24.42kergothugly poking into acedialog internals, but oh well
16:25.13Apocoyeah
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16:27.49pastamancerkergoth: maybe expose that as a function in AceConfig?
16:28.25chiperanyone here use smartsvn?
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16:28.55chipertrying to figure out how to make it ignore certain files
16:29.12pastamanceroh, you need to set the ignore property on the folder
16:29.28pastamancersmart svn 3, right?
16:29.46chiperyeah
16:29.50kergothyeah a dialog:GetBlizzFrame("Foo") or so would be good
16:30.06chiperI cant even find something to open properties on the files
16:30.35pastamancertools menu
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16:30.41pastamancererr
16:30.44pastamancerproperties menu
16:30.54pastamanceredit ignore patterns
16:31.04pastamancerwith a folder selected in the left pane
16:31.07chipereverything is disabled on that menu
16:31.24pastamancerignore patterns should be the last item in the menu
16:31.25chiperdo I have to add it to the project first?
16:31.38pastamanceryou have to have a project open
16:31.45pastamancerand you have to have a folder selected
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16:31.48Viper_0000any "unlimited macro" mods around? except trinity
16:31.49chiperI do have a project open -.-
16:31.54chiperand the folder it selected
16:32.27chiperbut all the menu items are disabled for that folder.  works for other folders that are part of the project, but not this one
16:32.28kergothViper_0000:  i think bindpad lets you make macros bigger thant he normal length and bind them
16:32.49Viper_0000oh shit it does?
16:32.53Viper_0000i use bindpad >.<
16:33.00CIA-3903vangual * r69878 10PitBull/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua:
16:33.00CIA-39PitBull
16:33.00CIA-39- pbtt: Add /pbtt slash command to directly open the module's options
16:33.14chipergod damnit, now I just commited a bunch of playlists to my svn
16:33.17pastamancerhas that one folder been added to svn yet?
16:33.33luxusanyone can help me? where i can download a copy http://git.tekkub.net/AddOnAddOff/ ? :D
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16:33.44chiperno, it hasnt
16:33.58Viper_0000oh sweet, it's in a new patch of bindpad
16:34.02chiperI dont want the folder on the svn, it's a local setting
16:34.03bengit://git.tekkub.net/AddOnAddOff
16:34.14Arrowmasterhttp://git.tekkub.net/AddOnAddOff/snapshot/AddOnAddOff-master.zip
16:34.22luxusthanks Arrowmaster
16:34.24pastamanceryou can also go into project -> settings and set global ignores
16:34.54kergothViper_0000:  yep, either create a new one or convert an old one into a bindpad macro
16:34.58kergothViper_0000:  seems to work well enough
16:35.09Fisker-addof?
16:35.12Fisker-addoff :(
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16:35.21kergothViper_0000:  only thing they dont have is the #show/#showtooltip stuff, but given you cant drag bindpad macros onto actionbars, it doesnt matter :)
16:35.57Viper_0000yeah that doesnt matter
16:36.04Viper_0000the majority of my macros or binded to keys anyways
16:36.19Viper_0000being a mage i have so many macros taking up action slows
16:36.38Viper_0000i have one for food, water, biscuits, every type of mana gem
16:36.40Viper_0000portals
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16:36.56benHuh, intriguing.
16:36.57GeloGI'm trying to skin my action buttons but I'm having trouble finding the function that updates all the buttons. It makes the borders semi-transparent whenever i drag a spell or macro :/
16:37.18NeoTronWTB Resto druid, resto shaman in t6 gear PST
16:37.30Viper_0000arent we all neotron >.<
16:37.35SunTsuViper_0000: Why not use AutoBar?
16:37.41luxushmpf
16:37.48Viper_0000cause i dont want to
16:37.51Viper_0000lol
16:38.00Viper_0000for example...
16:38.03Viper_0000for my portals
16:38.11Viper_0000left click is single teleport, right click is group portal
16:38.14Viper_0000for mana gem
16:38.19cncfanaticslua>1 and 2
16:38.19lua_botcncfanatics: 2
16:38.20Viper_0000right click conjures, left click uses
16:38.24Viper_0000and thre's like 5 mana gem
16:38.30SunTsuViper_0000: Autobar dows the same for portals
16:38.30benWhere do I get bindpad?
16:38.33Viper_0000right click makes table, left click uses biscuits
16:38.40cncfanaticslua> false and 2
16:38.40lua_botcncfanatics: false
16:38.44Viper_0000right click conjures food, left click uses food
16:38.45Viper_0000etc
16:39.14Viper_0000anyways ill bbl
16:39.15luxusamp is not really nice... not when i have more then 200 addonsfolders.. acp was cool.. but now i can't see afflicted for example.. addon addoff is too simple cause i can't see what addons will be loaded... anyone have a better solution?
16:39.41GeloGscratch that, i foxed it
16:39.41dylanmOptionHouse?
16:39.43GeloGfixed*
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16:40.23kergothluxus:  why wouldnt you be able to see afflicted?
16:40.29kergothjust use your mouse wheel to scroll down the list
16:40.33kergothamp works fine for me
16:40.44luxusdon't know.... i see it in amp.. but not in acp :D
16:41.03kergothshows up fine in mine, dunno what to tell you
16:41.11kergothusing 250 addons here
16:41.57cncfanaticslua> false and 2 or 3
16:41.57lua_botcncfanatics: 3
16:42.00luxusi think i should remove some unused libraries from folder
16:42.02cncfanaticslua> true and 2 or 3
16:42.03lua_botcncfanatics: 2
16:42.44luxuskergoth: amp is good but i miss the addon grouping from acp
16:43.49Tularishmpf
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16:44.00TularisWTB reason why eePanels2's toc hasn't been bumped yet
16:44.34benlua> "play WoW" or "do homework"
16:44.35lua_botben: play WoW
16:44.45Tularislol
16:44.53durcynTularis: because the author isn't actively maintaining it, and toc bumps are pointless.
16:45.05durcynif 20400 means so much to use, use kgpanels.
16:45.13durcynto you, rather
16:45.22Tularisthey're not pointless, they make sure I don't have to bump it locally each time I update me addons (=
16:45.30Funkeh`...
16:45.33durcynthey.  are. pointless.
16:45.34Funkeh`....
16:45.56shieldbTularis: you may have noticed a "Load out of date addons" checkbox on your addons list off of the character select screen
16:46.11durcynthe only. only. only. time interface version ever even matters is for an expansion release when the game will refuse to load lower major numbers.  load out of date is your friend.
16:47.10TularisI know it's there, but ever since it appeared I've been loathe to use it. I like to have all my addons state they work for that version themselves than knowing they do, but still having to coax the program (wow in this case) to accept it.
16:47.28TularisIMO the button should be removed anyway and addons should only work if the toc was right.
16:47.31durcynwell, your loatheness is, to be blunt, dumb as hell.
16:47.48Funkeh`Tularis, 'knowing they do'
16:47.52Funkeh`you're fooling yourself
16:47.53Arrowmaster99% of the people using addons have that box checked
16:48.05Tulariswhich is, imo, a bad thing
16:48.11Neko^^not really
16:48.15Funkeh`no its not
16:48.27Arrowmasterkinda useful for figuring out which addons might be causing problems
16:48.28Neko^^they added it because they knew changing the toc every patch would be ass for developers
16:48.28HakkaHno it's not else 90% of the stuff is useless
16:48.49Funkeh`Tularis, you're living in a world of imagination where you think if you update the toc the mod will magically be meant for that version of wow, it won't be no matter what you do to it
16:48.49durcynInterface version tells you what version of the client an addon was written for.  Believe it or not, things change between versions, and blindly bumping tocs is harmful.
16:48.55Funkeh`it was meant for the version in that toc
16:49.09benTularis: That's cool with me, writing a script to update all ToCs before WoW is launched is easy enough
16:49.12Snagoblindly bumping toc after you update your addons is exactly the same as using the "load out of date addons" box, except less effort ;P
16:49.27Funkeh`exactly
16:50.00dylanmYou're approaching this with the assumption that someone is there to maintain and vet every one of these things.
16:50.29Tularisyou people seem to think I'd want all tocs for all addons bumped. That is not the case, I've tested eepanels (specifically) and checked over the UI changes last patch, and it all works just fine. As such, IMO, the addon should advertise that it works well for this version (that is toc=24000). I did not mean to say I want to ignore changes, I did not say I want to bump tocs for all addons blindly.
16:50.30dylanmNow, if eePanels work... maybe it should be bumped. I don't know. It's probably not worth another push out to an addon site and, as Arrowmaster pointed out, most people check the box and it just works and life goes on.
16:50.48benTularis: How is the addon supposed to figure out whether it is going to work well?
16:50.58Funkeh`Tularis, do you know lua? do you know the latest 2.4 api?
16:51.05Funkeh`If you don't then you're wrong
16:51.07Tularisyes I do
16:51.17Funkeh`the toc means all the code has been updated to the latest api
16:51.17TularisI've written my share of addons over time
16:51.19Esinecan a warrior have more rage than 100? is there some gear that increases it just like a rogue can have 110 or even 120 energy?
16:51.23Funkeh`and has been reviewed by the author
16:51.29Arrowmasterisnt eepanels abandoned?
16:51.29Fisker-how do i shot spelllinks with an easy command_
16:51.30Fisker-?
16:51.33CIA-3903durcyn * r69879 10Chatter/Localization/koKR.lua: Chatter: man, you localizers are a hoot.
16:51.35Funkeh`yes it is
16:51.39Fisker-actually tooltips :O
16:51.40Funkeh`in favour of kgpanels
16:51.40TularisFunkeh': I agree, yes
16:51.46ThreatsEsine: Not that I have ever run into.
16:51.47Tularisthat I did not know
16:51.48Arrowmasterabandoned addons shouldnt get toc bumps
16:51.51Arrowmasterplain and simple
16:51.55Funkeh`indeed
16:51.57Apocolol durcyn I was just about to fix that.
16:52.01EsineThreats, ok thanks
16:52.08TularisI must have missed somewhere that it was abandoned in favor of Kgpanels
16:52.28ThreatsSo Kgpanels is the new eepanels?
16:52.35Funkeh`yes, in ace3
16:52.35Tularisif I had known, I wouldn't've bothered ranting about it here :)
16:52.42Fisker-come on
16:52.44Fisker-you can do it
16:52.47ThreatsHmm, apparently my ignorance knows no bounds.
16:52.52HakkaHit is but the config of it sucks imo
16:52.58HakkaHsticking with eepanels
16:53.13Funkeh`thats perfectly fine
16:53.16SunTsuNever ever understood the use of *panels
16:53.18Funkeh`just don't expect it to be updated
16:53.25phyberstabs Ace3
16:53.26HakkaHuntil it breaks beyond recogition
16:53.35phyberWhat's the proper way to use those values tables in the AceConfig3 ?
16:53.38TularisSunTsu: you never had any artwork on your UI ?
16:53.42ThreatsI miss discord. I want to be able to configure an OnClick function to a texture but I can't figure it out.
16:53.57Tulariscan't say I miss discord, that was one huge unwieldy hog
16:54.08Funkeh`phyber, { arg = "localized name", arg2 = "localized name" }
16:54.11SunTsuTularis: No, why would I? Only takes away Space I need
16:54.22Funkeh`the args are passed, the names are displayed
16:54.24ThreatsMy computer ran it fine, it was just originally got me into configuration.
16:54.32phyberFunkeh`: cool, thanks.
16:54.32Tulariswell, I actually like some art in my UI..
16:54.39HakkaHdiscord was lightyears ahead of it's time
16:54.43phyberFunkeh`: so the 'arg' is what's saved in my SV file, right?
16:54.52Funkeh`phyber, aye
16:54.55ThreatsIndeed it was HakkaH
16:54.56phyberexcellent :)
16:55.12HakkaHonly downside was the huge load it had
16:55.12Tularisit sure was, but it needed a total rewrite as it was hell to maintain
16:55.35kergothphyber:  technically arg is whats passed to your set function, its up the set function what it does with it :)
16:55.42HakkaHbut basically he just game you an ingame frameword to do what the hell you want with it
16:55.58HakkaHneeds to learn typing
16:56.00AmadeoUS Servers are up already, that's pretty wild
16:56.20durcynwild?  there's no patch, why is that wild
16:56.27Arrowmasterno patch? =(
16:56.32Funkeh`shit
16:56.41kergothhmm, when an aura is removed from a mob, how does one tell what, if anything, broke it, spell/ability wise?
16:56.45Funkeh`give patch already
16:56.46benEU servers are still up 8)
16:56.47ThreatsYeah, before discord I had some mod that let me see what was in my bank without being at the bank and I thought was just the coolest thing at the time lol.
16:56.48phyberkergoth: I was just a bit surprised when my SV file contained "1, 2, 3" isntead of the things I'd actually put in the table.
16:56.54phyberI guess the docs aren't finished yet.
16:56.56durcynnope, still 2.4.1
16:56.57kergothi want to know if it faded of its own accord, or if someone broke it
16:57.01kergothphyber:  ah
16:57.02Amadeodurcyn: Not supposed to be up for another hour
16:57.04Threatskergoth: I believe the combat log says it now.
16:57.30kergothphyber:  lots of people just copy the validate table from an ace2 type=text and assume itll work with a 'select' in ace3, not quite :)
16:57.50HakkaHfor some stupid reason I can't even load textures in kgpanels basically the whole reason why I dumped it
16:57.58kergothhmm, anyone have a excerpt from a combatlog.txt showing something being broken by something else?
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16:58.17phyberkergoth: I used the Ace3 docs when writing it.  now i need to stab it again, because the select options aren't in the order i listed them.  awesome.
16:58.28phyberin my set function, can i access the values table?
16:59.10HakkaHtried path \\Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\ , \\Interface\\AddOns\\Textures and Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\ and none seem to work here :(
16:59.24HakkaHyet the damn things are there
16:59.39kergothphyber:  the info table contains the "path" to where you are inthe options, so you can use that to drill down into the options table if you need to
16:59.40ApocoHas AceConfig3 fixed the dropdown issue and not having a scrollbar?
16:59.49Funkeh`HakkaH, um, aren't you supposed to point directly at the texture
17:00.05HakkaHnot according to the faq
17:00.28HakkaHunless I didn't read it right
17:00.33ckknightHakkaH: don't start with \\
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17:00.57SunTsudurcyn: Last week's maintenance time on EU was 15 minutes
17:01.18SunTsuor duration, that is
17:01.22HakkaHso it's Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\
17:02.03Kalroth@#%¤!
17:02.04durcynSunTsu: yeah, why are you telling me? =P
17:02.08Kalroth[2008/04/15 18:57:38-170-x1]: Chatter\Localization\koKR.lua:65: unfinished string near '"???? ??? ?? ? ??? ??? ? ????.'
17:02.18dylanmrofl
17:02.21SunTsudurcyn: That's what I call wild ;)
17:02.25HakkaHgonna try again then
17:02.34SunTsudylanm: Any questions left? ;)
17:02.40benCan you use / instead of \\?
17:02.43durcynKalroth: wait for 69879
17:02.45benAlso can you use / in toc files?
17:03.17omegain kgPanels, should embeds.xml also list CallbackHandler-1.0?
17:03.30omegaat least when I load it, I get an error saying "no instance of"
17:03.42omegaand it is in the libs/ folder, but not in embeds.xml
17:03.58dylanmPut it in there, yes.
17:04.06Arrowmasterit probably should
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17:05.03omegaI have no commit, but I can test it at least :)
17:06.47dylanmOh woops.
17:06.55dylanmI didn't see the part where you mentioned it was in kgpanels.
17:07.56omegawell, it loads now at least
17:09.42omeowgrr *shakes fist at omega*
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17:10.03Apocois there a way to determine if a LOD addon is Enabled but not loaded (ie: not disabled on char select)?
17:10.10omeowThat used to be my nick on freenode. Until someone else nicked it. =P
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17:11.46HakkaHdunno but doesn't kgpanels support tga or something?
17:12.01Sent_is it possible to pass args to an 'execute' func in AceConfig3?
17:12.35ArrowmasterApoco: yes check the addon api on the wowwiki api page
17:12.54erzyAnyone here got some nice Unit Frames they want to share?
17:12.59Apocough cant stand the new wowwiki
17:12.59Apoco-_-
17:13.07Arrowmastermake an account
17:13.13Arrowmasteryou get the old skin if you want
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17:14.16kenlyricaltclicktoadditem is still necessary if you want to do that, right?
17:14.31omegaomeow: why?
17:14.35omegaahh
17:14.38omegaheh :)
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17:14.48NeoTronkenlyric: I still sue it
17:15.04CIA-3903charon * r69880 10Omen/embeds.xml: Omen: <include> the xml, not the lua
17:15.13SunTsuNeoTron: What did it do to you? ;)
17:15.37CIA-3903next96 * r69881 10Chatter/Localization/koKR.lua:
17:15.37CIA-39Chatter :
17:15.37CIA-39- Update locale koKR
17:15.43NeoTronSunTsu: let me alt-click to add items!
17:15.56SunTsuNeoTron: So you sue it? ;)
17:15.58NeoTronI know, it's surprising but alas that is what it does.
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17:17.19phyberthe 'dsiabled' stuff in AC3 seems broken.  it says "Disabled but visible" in the docs, but disabling something totally hides it
17:17.44phyberhidden in blizz options frame anyway
17:18.00Sent_is it possible to pass args to an 'execute' func in AceConfig3?
17:18.19Apocoshould be.
17:18.37Sent_yes, it should be, but how?
17:19.08HakkaHwtf am I doing wrong? I link it to Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\Bar1-1.tga and literally 0.0 happens :(
17:19.30estalayou just have a textures floating around in your addons folder?
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17:19.47Xinhuanyour option table should have a arg=(something)
17:19.57Xinhuanit will be passed in as info.arg
17:20.08Xinhuanwhere info is the first argument
17:20.29HakkaHseperate folder for it but kgpanels doesn't seem to find it that way
17:20.32Xinhuaninfo[0] contains the root option node, info[n] contains the name of the leaf node
17:20.42ApocoHakkaH: Try Interface\\Addons\\<AddonName>\\Textures :[
17:20.43Apoco:p*
17:20.45Xinhuaninfo.arg == (something)
17:20.46estalayeah
17:20.47Sent_arg=(something) where 'something' is a constat?
17:20.50estalaYou need the full path to it
17:20.58Apocoyeah
17:21.00Xinhuanthat something is whatever it is, a string, a table, a function, wtc
17:21.01Xinhuanetc
17:21.06kagaroHakkaH: i store all y art under \\Interface\\Addons\\textures
17:21.08Sent_i'll try
17:21.13kagaro*my
17:21.28Xinhuanif you only need to pass in 1 argument, just pass in that argument, if you need to pass in more, use a table
17:22.02HakkaHzomg so kgpanels does need the starting \\
17:22.08kagaroHakkaH: are you on windows or a mac btw?
17:22.14HakkaHwindows
17:22.15kagaroHakkaH: I always put it in
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17:23.41kagaroHakkaH:  also did you check to ensure the tga follows the rules for wow textures?
17:23.42HakkaHso it;s c:\games\Wow\Interface\AddOns\textures\file.tga that make kgpanels \\Interface\\AddOns\\Textures\\file.tga
17:23.49HakkaHyeah
17:23.56HakkaHeepanels works
17:24.10HakkaHso it should do the same with kgpanels
17:24.35dylanmWhat's with the leading slash
17:24.43Arrowmasterno leading slashes!
17:25.19HakkaHfinally
17:25.25HakkaHit's WITH leading slashes
17:25.54LukianDoes Chatter break the Report Spam button?
17:26.00LukianIt seems to have gone missing.
17:26.09charonLukian: works for me
17:26.27charonthat is, right-click someone's nick, "Report Spam"
17:26.29SunTsuLukian: There's a changelog entry that claims to have fixed exactly that
17:26.58HakkaHnow one thing remains... a fixed minimalist
17:27.09NeoTronso yeah MagicDKP didn't create a new raid correctly when you didn't have trace logging on. Feature!
17:27.13HakkaHautomaton seem to have a mem leak here
17:27.17CIA-3903neotron * r69882 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: It helps if we create the raid even when trace debugging is turned off.
17:27.32ArrowmasterHakkaH: are you running with embeded libraries?
17:28.12LukianSunTsu, ah cheers :)
17:28.42Jagobah!
17:28.51Jagobahanyone here use ka_raidtracker?
17:30.17NeoTronJagobah: no but I'm trying make a replacement with MagicDKP (that at least works fo rmy guild)
17:30.26[TUE]Natherulanyone care to explain to me why when i use bongos the first row of spells for me are smaller then the rest?... i mean it looks retarded and i want it fixed
17:30.58dylanm[TUE]Natherul: Did you uh scale that bar by accident
17:31.33GeloGlol @ chatter. error in latest rev
17:31.35dylanmGo into /bob config, right-click the bar and check out the scale value.
17:31.42GeloGInterface\AddOns\Chatter\Localization\koKR.lua:65: unfinished string near '"???? ??? ?? ? ??? ??? ? ????.'
17:31.45[TUE]Natherulwell i kinda only set the whole thing up with the same bar but with many rows, so i have scaled the whole thing to get big but the first row wont...
17:32.11dylanmOh so you just have one bar?
17:32.38CIA-3903zeksie * r69883 10GrimReaper/ (Bindings.xml GrimReaper.lua Locales/localization.lua):
17:32.39CIA-39GrimReaper:
17:32.39CIA-39- New Quick View hotkey allowing you to keep Reaper hidden until needed. Press
17:32.39CIA-39AND HOLD your Quick View key, mouse over the unit you're interested in. Release
17:32.39CIA-39the key, Grim Reeaper now behaves normally and will hide again if you press the
17:32.39CIA-39Quick View key once more. Currently only works when Grim Reaper is HIDDEN and
17:32.43CIA-39NOT docked to tooltip.
17:32.52[TUE]Natherulwell its one big configurable block with like in bartender spells for 9 bars or so
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17:33.25Silviu-charon, are u here ? ;)
17:33.39dylanmLet me put it this way: you go into config mode. How many numbers do you see?
17:34.13Silviu-charon in Omen/embeds.xml i pasted exactly how Antiarc added in his toc ;p
17:34.32LukianWhat's GrimReaper do? :D
17:34.58[TUE]Natheruldylam: its 1 number wich is 1 for the whole castingthing
17:35.16dylanmAnd one row of it just won't scale? Well that is odd then.
17:35.21dylanmThis is Bongos3?
17:35.25[TUE]Natherulyeah
17:35.58dylanmYou might want to take a screenshot of the situation in config mode.
17:36.43Jagobahgrimreaper summarizes what happened to someone within the past 10-20 combat log entries
17:37.05charonSilviu-: well, i just noticed that you used <include> for a .lua... you must use the xml with include, or the lua with <script>
17:37.22Silviu-Oh, true
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17:37.42Silviu-thx for fixing it then :)
17:37.51charonno big deal :)
17:38.34seidJagobah: it does for anyone in a raid?
17:39.01[TUE]Natheruldylam: in config mode you say i should take screen in?
17:39.05ThreatsI have apparently broken my kgPanels already. I can't make any new panels, yay.
17:40.14dylanmJust for the sake of a bug report. I'm sure Tuller would want to get this fixed but he ain't here.
17:40.43[TUE]Natherulso anyone here interested in seeing it then or shall i w8 for him to pop in here or something?
17:41.26dylanmUh if you have an account on wowace.com/forums or wowinterface.com I'd post it there I guess.
17:41.35ZeksieJagobah: almost. i goes back as far as your combat log now
17:41.39dylanmIn the appropriate areas.
17:41.43stew_aGeloG: is that the localisation file error?
17:41.44Zeksiethe pre 2.4 one was last 15 entries
17:41.53dylanmPlus I'm curious to see how it looks too :p
17:42.47erzyckknight
17:42.54ckknighterzy
17:42.57Fisker-Chompers
17:42.58ckknightnow we're acquainted.
17:43.03HobbyAnyone else ever gotten "Spell not learned" while trying to get the mana cells for the daily?
17:43.05Fisker-how does one shot bloodboil? :(
17:43.05ChompersFisker-
17:43.05Kalrothkinky
17:43.07Chompersyou called
17:43.16erzyIs it possible to add vertical spacing for pitbull buffs/debuffs?
17:43.17Chompersno idea, we don't do him
17:43.33ckknighterzy: not sure.
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17:43.35CIA-3903neotron * r69884 10MagicDKP/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MagicDKP: Added command options to 'start' and 'end' raids.
17:43.44Fisker-i did Chompers
17:43.45ckknighterzy: check the options carefully, if not there, add to the jira
17:43.47Fisker-OWNED CHOMPERS RAWR
17:43.48Fisker-:(
17:43.55Chompersscrew you Fisker-
17:43.59Chompers:<
17:44.03erzyI found Horisontally, but not vertical
17:44.16Arrowmasteris it mean to post on my realm forums (that will get read by the top guild on our server that has 2 offhand and 0 mainhands) that the mainhand warglaive we got lastnight was given to a warrior based on a /roll of 68
17:44.18KalrothI heard that ckknight dyed his hair green, any truth to that?
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17:44.34ckknightKalroth: nah, it's still auburn
17:44.37erzyckknight: what's jira? :P
17:44.41Kalrothoh
17:44.43ckknighterzy: jira.wowace.com
17:44.46erzykk
17:44.46[TUE]Natheruldylam: please do me a favor and post this then where it should be and for you to look: http://www.natherul.webd.pl/pictures/bongos3bug.jpg
17:44.49Kalrothckknight: you should though
17:44.49ckknightKalroth: where did you hear that?
17:44.53ckknightno way
17:45.02Kalrothit'd be hip
17:45.24dylanmOh.
17:45.40dylanmThat's not Bongos3's fault.
17:45.51[TUE]Natherulthen what is it then?
17:46.03dylanmWell I see you have cycircled.
17:46.11dylanmAnd I don't think the two are compatible at all.
17:46.12[Liquidor].
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17:46.37[TUE]Natheruli'll have a look if it is that then
17:46.52dylanmIf you disable cycircled it will look fine, but you won't have the omgborders.
17:47.00dylanmI'm not sure what the status is of Bongos3 skinning.
17:47.06dylanmI know there's that ButtonFacade thing happening.
17:47.38dylanmAnyone know?
17:47.41CIA-3903neotron * r69885 10MagicDKP/Config.lua: MagicDKP: enable/disable events end starting / ending raids.
17:47.45AeyanTuller seemed interested enough, but he hasn't built a module for it yet
17:48.14GrumNeoTron: MagicDKP tracks itemloot?
17:48.25[TUE]Natherulah, thanks dylam. it seems the problem was in cycyrcled
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17:49.20AeyanI think ButtonFacade support is something he was going to add after he hammered the last of the bugs out of bongos3
17:49.56[Liquidor]WTB addon package
17:50.00[Liquidor]1 addon to rule them all
17:50.13Sent_ok, lets try again: if i do /myaddon execute whatever, how can I pass 'whatever' to the execute handling func?
17:50.14dylanm[TUE]Natherul: Yeah :-/ you'd have to use something else for bars until the BF thing comes to fruition if you want the looks.
17:50.31Nandinii think you just need Alar's addon for that. it has "The One Function" heheh
17:50.41Fisker-damn
17:50.41ckknightit returns 42
17:50.46Fisker-how do i shot bloodboil :(
17:50.51Arrowmasterhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5835089143&postId=59155118244&sid=1#6
17:50.52Fisker-pretty much anyone but me dies to fel rage
17:50.54Arrowmasteri am evil
17:51.35CIA-3903Zimran * r69886 10zimClock/zimClock.lua:
17:51.35CIA-39zimClock:
17:51.35CIA-39- Moved the format decision out of the OnUpdate function.
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17:53.07WillJitsuTest
17:53.19[Liquidor]Test
17:53.21GotaiSent_:Break up the msg to Cmd and Subcmd (ie. Cmd, Subcmd = string.match(msg, "^(%S+)%s?(.*)$"), and work everything out in your slash handler.
17:54.05dylanmYou just get "execute whatever" as a string. You kind of just roll with that.
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17:54.26[SW]Dodgehttp://www.elitepvpers.de/forum/wow-exploits-hacks-tools-macros/126273-how-put-yourself-top-damage-meters-recount-mod.html <- lol Recount "exploit" :D
17:54.49dylanmOh God.
17:55.06GeloG<stew_a> GeloG: is that the localisation file error? --- Yes
17:55.21HjalteDoes anyone know, if I am right in thinking that jwu deletes libraries that are not used by any of my addons?
17:56.42NandiniHjalte: it tries to, but if authors make mistakes in their TOC or includes, it will delete libraries those addons need
17:56.57Nandiniwhich is why it includes a "whitelist" for libraries to keep
17:57.51Zeksieok.. so get Elsia to hide that whole bit in locals or something ;)
17:57.52GeloGAce3 blocked from using LFGQuery()
17:57.52GeloGCount: 2   whut? lol
17:58.12Pkekyo|g'morning all
17:58.12Pkekyo|anything new in the world of wowace?
17:59.52DashkalThe sky is purple
18:00.14Dashkal... or I'm just bored at work.  Time calculations suck.
18:00.38Tularishm, KGpanels is nice :o
18:00.59CIA-3903next96 * r69887 10Chatter/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
18:00.59CIA-39Chatter :
18:00.59CIA-39- add some locale (module name)
18:00.59CIA-39- Update locale koKR
18:01.32Pkekyo|Dashkal: been popping those purple pills again?
18:01.40Dashkalthey're green today, actually
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18:01.58DashkalThe nice man behind the building says they're even better than the purple ones
18:02.21Pkekyo|lies
18:02.23Pkekyo|purple > all
18:02.32kenlyricwe take lungs today, gills read in two weeks
18:02.38kenlyric+y
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18:02.44DashkalI think you're right on that one.  The green ones make the math make sense, and that's just wrong.
18:02.51Pkekyo|indeed
18:03.03Pkekyo|math has never, will never, and should never make sense under -any- circumbstances
18:03.08kenlyricgreen pill follow green leader?
18:03.15Fisker-HALP
18:05.00Pkekyo|nowai
18:05.10Pkekyo|POP ZEH PILLS N IT WILL ALL BE ALRITE
18:05.10Pkekyo|k.
18:05.30Vulcanusping paene
18:07.14Fisker-Pkekyo| :(
18:07.18Fisker-i want to kill bloodboil
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18:10.42Pkekyo|Fisker-: then pop the purple pills!
18:11.06Dashkalnogs
18:11.06Pkekyo|meh...I need more money...should be ebaying my arse off when the dollar's worth less than five real monies
18:12.13Dashkalthey're yummy!
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18:14.05charonAntiarc: suggestion for chatter: you could steal prat's bindings.xml, it's kinda useful :)
18:14.08Fisker-WUT
18:14.17Fisker-we healed a clothie through felrage
18:14.19Fisker-epic
18:14.58NeoTronSent_: because uou have no active raid?
18:15.17Sent_NeoTron, what makes a raid active?
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18:15.20NeoTronSent_: raids are created when you're in a raid that has more than the minimum number of people (as configured in the config ui)
18:15.25ChompersFisker-: azgalor time horay
18:15.32NeoTronor you can, if you have a new enough version, use /md start
18:15.35NeoTronto force it
18:15.36Chomperscan you come and heal me please
18:15.49Sent_I've set any numer, in the raid minimum number, i'm in a raid, and i'm inside sunwell
18:15.54Fisker-no Chompers
18:15.54Fisker-also
18:15.57Fisker-azgalor = ez now
18:16.08Chompersyes, but we still die
18:16.16Chompersso come heal me, you need to reroll alliance fast
18:16.39CIA-3903benumbed * r69889 10DaHud/ (28 files in 7 dirs):
18:16.39CIA-39DaHud:
18:16.39CIA-39<PROTECTED>
18:16.39CIA-39<PROTECTED>
18:16.40CIA-3903Balstor * r69888 10LD50_abar/:
18:16.40CIA-39LD50_abar:
18:16.42CIA-39- externals?
18:17.06NeoTronSent_: you might have a version then that's too old - I fixed a bug where it wouldn't create a raid unless you had trace logging on
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18:17.35Fisker-no Chompers
18:17.37Sent_dl'ed 10 minuteas ago
18:17.38Fisker-suck my big fat cock
18:17.48Chompersi would, but it's not big, or a cock
18:17.57NeoTronSent_:  is this just a test raid?
18:17.59Benumbedx...
18:18.05Sent_it also does a bubbleboss error on entropius
18:18.09NeoTronyes
18:18.13Sent_no, we are starting the night ride
18:18.19NeoTronbecause entropius doesn't exist :-/
18:18.21NeoTronok hmm
18:18.26balstorjust to toture everyone else int he world, 70 degress in the french quater with crawfish pasta and coffee <--- my lunch
18:18.27NeoTrontry /script MagicDKP:StartOrEndRaid()
18:18.51Cheads70 degrees? I hope that's F
18:19.10balstoryep F
18:19.15Primerin 3 feet of water?
18:19.21NeoTronSent_: also try /dump MagicDKP:get()
18:19.27balstorwe don't use those fancy Cs down here, wouldn'r be proper
18:19.30NeoTronit should have an entry for 'zone' and an entry for 'raid'
18:19.43Cheadsdown where?
18:19.47Cheadsaustralia?
18:19.53balstorbah we had the french quater open for businness 2 months after the hurricane
18:19.59Nandininawlins
18:20.29balstorrest of the city still has some wrecks and dead houses, but we got the tourist stuff back on-line in a big hurry
18:20.41Sent_NeoTron, checking
18:21.03Cheadswhere in the world is that balstor?
18:21.08balstorO and note I finally got my addon into SVN, now to see if I get everything tied in correctly
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18:21.22balstorNew Orleans Louisiana
18:21.22kenlyricfrench quarter has the voodoo on its side
18:21.29Cheadskk
18:21.46Sent_NeoTron, seems ok now
18:21.53Cheadsso not THAT far down(as australia hehe)
18:21.54balstorthe only place in north america that knows how to cook i might add
18:22.15balstorAustralia is so far down there up
18:22.17Cheadsok, only been to Dallas
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18:23.20balstorDallas is a blahh major city in America, nothing great nothing really bad
18:23.48balstornow New Jersey, as it has been said if the earth ever needed an enimia they would but it in New Jersey
18:24.44balstorin this SVN enviroment should i obtain locks and can i hold loks for weeks at a time?
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18:26.06Josh_Borkebalstor: no, do not use locks
18:26.07ShirikAnyone here use a decaying DKP system?
18:26.17balstorthanks
18:26.24Shirikand balstor, locks can be broken at any time
18:26.31balstorI used a form of decaying DKP system once
18:26.42Shirikthe only time you should ever use them is if you really know what you're doing and you're working on a complex project with a lot of people and you have a really good reason
18:26.48ShirikDid you use eqdkp with it?
18:27.08balstoryhea i figured they could be broke but i didn't know if convention was to use them to hold files or just guick short rapid changes
18:27.29Josh_Borkebalstor: don't mess with other people's addons without permission
18:27.51ShirikThere is almost never a reason to use a lock
18:27.54balstoryhea we did it by hand though and just add a entry to everyone with -10 dkp to everyone
18:28.00Shirikand on wowace I can't ever think you should use one
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18:28.08ShirikI see balstor, thanks
18:28.53CIA-3903neotron * r69890 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Attempt to better create a new raid if needed.
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18:34.24CIA-3903neotron * r69891 10MagicDKP/Config.lua: MagicDKP: Typo fix.
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18:35.49Fisker-how much does a boss remove of your dodge?
18:35.56Fisker-i.e the level difference
18:38.15DashkalI was under the impression that the boss's level +3 only affected his mischance, not your dodge.
18:38.16Nandinii'm not sure bosses negate dodge (except for those with sunwell radiance) or parry
18:38.17Megalon0.2% of dodge/parry/block per level, so 0.6% for bosses
18:38.25DashkalI stand corrected
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18:38.57Nandinitrue, i suppose their weapon skill is still higher
18:39.30Beheritmhm currently there is a problem with any ace addon maybe?
18:39.53Beheriton every login/logout or every /reloadui some ppl got stoodstills in wow
18:39.57Beheritis this known?
18:40.00Megalonthat's why you need to reach 102.4% to be crushimmune, because you get 4x -0.6% of dodge/parry/block/miss from bosses, and not 100% ;)
18:40.29kergothBeherit:  there are probably more than one thousand ace addons in existance.  do you want us to guess which ones you're using?
18:40.41NandiniBeherit: i have not experienced this, and no one else here has mentioned it either
18:41.03Beheritnearly 6 ppl mention it in my current raiud
18:41.14Beheriti havent got the problem
18:41.32CIA-3903jncl * r69892 10Skinner/ (CharacterFrames1.lua Skinner.lua UIElements2.lua): Skinner: Bugfix for typo
18:41.34Beheriti can really type /rl and the ppl cant do anything
18:41.37CIA-3903neotron * r69893 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: fixed /md start to work correctly.
18:41.58kergothi'm still trying to figure out what "got stoodstills" means
18:42.10Nandinii'm guessing "locked up"
18:43.11Beheritthe full wow hangs
18:43.21Beherit"standbild" on germen :) so no graphic or so moves
18:43.53Nandinidoes this happen on the loading screen? (with the progress bar?)
18:44.01SunTsuBeherit: "freeze up" e.g.
18:44.09Beheritok thx :)
18:44.21Beheritit seems to stop on fully ui load of the /rl person
18:44.30CIA-3903neotron * r69894 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Fixed self.debug =>self:trace mismatch.
18:45.35NandiniBeherit: if this just started happening for them in the raid, and they think it is an addon problem, they need to start disabling raid-related addons one at a time
18:46.28Beheriti think we cant do this. the ppl will start gettin angry if we dont do this crappy bt in a few hours
18:46.43Chompersso, anyone had the factionsfu/guildfu lockup?
18:46.47Nandinithen they will just have to leave your raid i suppose
18:46.51SunTsuBeherit: So what do they expect? A miracle?
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18:47.10BeheritSunTsu no nothing, sorry i just wanted ro report the problem
18:47.23Nandiniyou haven't reported a problem, you've only reported a symptom :P
18:47.39SunTsuBeherit: Well, a problem report includes error message and such
18:47.57SunTsuBeherit: This is mostly a crystal ball's thing ;)
18:47.58Nandiniif they disable ALL addons, does that fix it?
18:48.06BeheritNandini it does
18:48.19Beheritand only if some ppl do /rl they got freezes
18:48.44Nandiniwell, we can't guess for them which addon is causing the problem, they need to determine that themselves
18:48.45Fisker-luls
18:48.56Fisker-from 60% tries to 14%
18:48.59BeheritNandini for sure
18:49.37charonBeherit: disabling half the addons in every step makes it log(n)
18:49.38ChompersFisker-: we had 3 dc's on last azgalor wave :<
18:49.55Fisker-oooooooooowned
18:50.01Fisker-learn2notplayalliance
18:50.01charonBeherit: that way you should only need a few reloads to find the one that is at fault
18:50.37sag_ich_nichtsomeone know an addon that's basicially a stopwatch?
18:51.11SaisTimerFu?
18:51.23SaisIt counts up and down, iirc
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18:52.55NandiniBeherit: if they are speaking to each other on ventrilo or something, have one person list the addons he is using, when all six people find one they all use, disable it and try again
18:52.59CIA-3903Tristan * r69895 10Enhancer/ (11 files in 2 dirs):
18:52.59CIA-39Enhancer:
18:52.59CIA-39- OmniCC fix
18:52.59CIA-39- zhTW.lua found it's way to me by e-mail (if it's wrong don't blame me, just fix it on the svn ;)
18:55.39CIA-3903starinnia * r69896 10SimpleMD/Locale-deDE.lua: SimpleMD: deDE update (thanks filion)
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18:59.57Silviu-Anyone know a page with colours like this 00ffffff ? ;) and what colour each is ? :)
19:00.48GotaiSearch google for hex colors, first hit
19:01.35Silviu-thx
19:01.43Xinhuandepends on format
19:01.49*** join/#wowace Threats (n=nnscript@c-68-50-52-199.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
19:01.55Xinhuanfor chat strings in wow, they are in the format |cAARRGGBB
19:02.06Xinhuanfor most others, they are in (r, g, b, a) format
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19:02.31Nandinihas anyone seen a player GUID with more than 4 significant bytes?
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19:02.56nevcairieli think so, yes
19:03.10nevcairielor wait, 4 bytes, thats more then 8 hex digits
19:03.11nevcairielhrm
19:03.33Nandiniyes 8 digits is the key, i'm hoping to encode it into a color code hidden in the player's guild public note
19:03.35balstorhmm appatrntly autshoot is now gone from the combat logs....
19:03.41balstorautoshoot
19:03.46Xinhuanlua> 2^32
19:03.46lua_botXinhuan: 4294967296
19:03.49nevcairiellol Nandini
19:04.01Xinhuani think its a safe bet that you won't see player GUIDs exceeding that
19:04.25Nandinii know, it seems silly, but there are many times when it would be handy to know a guild mate's guid, especially when they're not online
19:04.31vithosbalstor: 14:04:05> Vith's ranged shot hit Apexis Flayer for 595 Physical.
19:04.33nevcairielthe longest i have is 7 digits
19:04.39Xinhuan4294 million characters is a bit hard to reach, when the US servers only have about 3 million subscriptions
19:04.41Nandinimine is 7 digits also, starting iwth a 1
19:04.49Xinhuanand each account can have a maximum of only 50 characters
19:05.07nevcairieljust create a new toon
19:05.10nevcairieland check its GUID
19:05.15balstorthanks vithos pre 2.4 thatere would have been an autoshot in there, sigh back to lua code hacking
19:05.17Xinhuanso 4294 million / 50 chars per account will require at least 80 mil accounts to reach
19:05.20ThreatsForgive me for my ignorance but what exactly is a GUID.
19:05.30nevcairielglobal unique identifier
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19:05.36ThreatsAh, thank you.
19:05.40NandiniGUID is a "globally" unique identifying number
19:05.46nevcairielevery player has one
19:05.46Xinhuanso i'm fairly sure you won't exceed that ;p
19:05.51nevcairieland every Mob has one too
19:06.11Nandiniin the case of players, they are unique at least within a battlegroup, possibly also across an entire region
19:06.30Xinhuanits probably unique across a region only
19:06.39HjalteCan anyone tell me when the time is 20/21 in USA today?
19:06.50Xinhuanwith only 3-5 mil accounts in the US, we're a long way off from reaching the max GUID ;p
19:07.33Nandinistoring player GUIDs hidden in the public guild note would allow me to store their 4-byte GUIDs instead of variable-byte names
19:07.37HjalteOr well, when it's 9/8c in USA :)
19:07.56NandiniHjalte: that will be in 6 hours, set a timer :)
19:07.59Xinhuani don't believe you can actually do that Nandini
19:08.01vithosit's 2pm central now
19:08.14HjalteNandini: 6 hours?! stupid americans being so much behind.
19:08.23Xinhuani don't think you are allowed to put non-printable characters in guild notes
19:08.37NandiniXinhuan, you can store |c01234567|r in a public note programatically
19:08.54Xinhuanwell see |c01234567|r is 12 bytes
19:08.55Xinhuannot 4
19:09.08Xinhuanyou might as well just have stored the GUID directly and strip the leading 0s
19:09.09Nandiniyes, but when i store it elsewhere, it's only 4 bytes :)
19:09.19Xinhuanbut you can't store it as 4 bytes in a guild note
19:09.32Nandinii don't care about the storage space in the guild note, i care about it elsewhere
19:09.47CIA-3903neotron * r69897 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: fixed adding/deleting raid configuration somewhat.
19:09.48Xinhuanomen encodes it into the same 4 bytes you are thinking of btw
19:09.55Nandiniyes that was my inspiration
19:10.12nevcairielomen doesnt strip zeros though
19:10.16Xinhuanbut because certain characters cannot be sent on the addon channel, you have to escape those
19:10.26Nandinii just build my lookup table from the guild notes
19:10.28Xinhuanit used to strip 0s, but it caused more problems than it solved
19:10.46Nandiniand i can restore the 0s in my lookup table
19:10.52Nandiniif string comparisons are needed
19:10.58ApocoMagicDKP?!
19:11.03Apocois it magical?
19:11.29Xinhuani don't really like the "use guild note" strategy since anyone with access can edit the note
19:11.41Xinhuanand data is lost when a player quits and rejoins the guild
19:11.46Nandiniyes, it is not a secure solution
19:11.54Xinhuanjoke gquits happen daily ;p and does joke gkicks
19:11.58Apocoplayers shouldnt gquit
19:11.59Apocoimo
19:12.04Apocoif you gquit you are gout
19:12.04Xinhuanas*
19:12.09CIA-3903lilrascal * r69898 10BombersBuddy/BombersBuddy.lua:
19:12.09CIA-39BombersBuddy
19:12.10CIA-39- Fixed issue in Isle of Quel'Danas when the user has both Arcane Charges and Flaming Oil. The correct bomb will now be armed.
19:12.10CIA-39- Added Skyguard Bombs for used in Blade's Edge Mountains
19:12.10CIA-39- Known Issue: in Isle of Quel'Danas Flaming Oil will be armed when the player is near the harbor, or on the way to The Dead Scar, but the Arcane Charges will be armed once the player enters The Dead Scar.
19:12.13Xinhuandepends on how strict your guild is
19:12.22Xinhuanjoke gquits are just that, jokes
19:12.45Nandiniin any case, if a player has my addon and can edit his guild public note, the addon will encode his guid into the note
19:13.06Xinhuanwhats this for btw?
19:13.14SunTsuXinhuan: Well, somebody who wanted to join our guild did /gquit jokes - he was declined because of that
19:13.20Nandinii'm thinking of using it for a scheduling addon
19:13.24SunTsuand I think it was the right thing to do
19:13.28XinhuanSunTsu, it really depends on your guild heh
19:13.35Xinhuani find joke gquits funny
19:13.40Xinhuanand don't mind it
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19:13.45Nandiniand storing the scheduling data in a guild bank tab text
19:13.50Xinhuanespecially when the context is right
19:14.00Nandiniagain, not a secure solution and requires some manual setup
19:14.06SunTsuXinhuan: Yeah, it's just that most people think that guys doing that kind of jokes are total arsehats ;)
19:14.17Nandiniand each tab could store scheduling and attendance info for only 2-4 events
19:14.25DashkalEh, joke gkicks/gquits are the norm in my guild too
19:14.44Xinhuani think you would be better off doing a non-wow-addon solution
19:14.48DashkalThough it's usually literally "Drama drama drama I hate you all /gquit"
19:14.49Xinhuani.e guild website/forum
19:14.57Nandiniyes, i'm just doing this experimentally
19:15.08Nandinithis is not meant to be a robust solution for public consumption
19:15.13Xinhuanor the "haha i just won warglaive cya guys joining DnT! /gquit"
19:15.24balstorUFCE question is spell or name returned from GetSpellInfo localized?
19:15.30Xinhuanbalstor: yes :)
19:15.42Dashkalheh, we don't have any alli who have taken down illidan yet so that would be a strange joke at best.
19:15.45Xinhuanthat's why BabbleSpell is deprecated now
19:16.02ThreatsIs anyone else having issues with kgpanels, any script I give it to hide a frame, I can't bring it back, even with 'self:Show()'
19:16.07Xinhuansince the common base is no longer the "english spell name", but the spellID integer now
19:16.07SunTsuXinhuan: And I am talking about "/gjoin and /gquit are sitting in a boat, /gjoin falls into the water, who's still in the boat" ones
19:16.20ArrowmasterXinhuan: my friend did that for april 1st, we got our first illidan kill and first glaive the night before
19:16.34Xinhuanhahaha
19:16.36Arrowmastersaid somebody offered him $5000
19:16.38balstorbut i'm looking for spells based off the common english base not spellid
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19:17.01Nandinibalstor: if that's the case, you may be stuck using BS until you can implement spellid's into your solution
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19:17.11Xinhuanwell why would you want to use the english name as the common base?
19:17.17Xinhuanthe integer is a far better base
19:17.25balstorsimple case waiting for a warrior to cast slam
19:17.28DashkalSunTsu: We had that, so one of us had the bright idea of saying "Sorry dude, that doesn't work anymore.  gquit has a confirm now"
19:17.45SunTsuDashkal: Hehe
19:17.46Xinhuanas long as you put in comments what spell the spellID is
19:17.49Xinhuanclearly
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19:18.17Xinhuan[4/16 03:17:11] <balstor> simple case waiting for a warrior to cast slam
19:18.29Xinhuanthe combat log now reports both the localized spellname and the spellID integer
19:18.40Xinhuanso there really is no reason to use the english name as the base
19:18.42balstorokay stupid question then where is a list of SpellIDs
19:18.46Nandiniwowhead
19:18.49Xinhuanyou can use wowhead
19:19.08Xinhuanthe spellID of the spell is in the address
19:19.14balstorguhhh, has blizzard ever said spellids or immutable numbers?
19:19.17Xinhuanyes
19:19.20Xinhuanthey are fixed
19:19.21balstorare*
19:19.33Xinhuanand will not change
19:19.35Fisker-man
19:19.38Fisker-almost got bloodboil :O
19:19.47Xinhuanusing spellIDs also have the benefit that if Blizzard renames a spell, the ID doesn't change
19:19.53Chomperscurse you Fisker-
19:19.55Xinhuanand blizzard has indeed renamed spells before
19:20.03Nandinithey are fixed in Spells.dbc (and related databases), so they could be changed, but it would be time consuming and error-prone for them to do so
19:20.08Xinhuanexample being Polymorph
19:20.09Chompersattempt #2 on trash
19:20.10balstorwell see i keep thing of ids on macros and all the shit that caused me
19:20.55XinhuanspellIDs are also spell specific
19:20.59Nandinithe nice thing is, it is immediately obvious if they ever change the ID (because your addon stops working) and you just go look up the new one
19:21.14Xinhuanthis means the spellID of Arcane Intellect rank 1 and rank 2 are different
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19:21.18Xinhuanand you can tell which one is used
19:21.30Xinhuanwhile if you used the english name, you couldn't tell it apart
19:21.37Xinhuanas both spells map to the same name
19:21.51Xinhuanso if all you want is just the translated name, you could use either spellID
19:21.52balstorwhich has it's benefits when all you care is if they cast slam not which rank
19:22.07Xinhuanyeah, so if there's 10 ranks of slam, you can use any of the 10 IDs
19:22.12Xinhuanif you don't care which rank it is
19:22.20omeowAre there any people in this channel besides Antiarc who work on Omen?
19:22.22Nandiniyou'd have to check for all of them
19:22.43balstorsigh
19:22.49Xinhuanif you dont' care which rank is used, then you use any one of the 10 to get the translated name
19:22.50nevcairielomeow: i did some work too, why?
19:22.52Xinhuanand match the name
19:23.00Nandinigood point, Xinhuan
19:23.01Xinhuansee? its easy
19:23.03nappy-is an ace mail addon out there which allows to send the same mail to several people?
19:23.23Josh_Borkenop
19:23.31balstorhmm so i could build an embedded Babble then by loading up localized translations at the start
19:23.32omeowI made a patch to include an option and fix a bug. Made a patch file, but Antiarc is afk and I'm kinda curious if I did things correctly.
19:23.42Nandinipepole very deliberately won't write an addon that could be used for mail spamming
19:23.45Xinhuannappy-, nope, addons such as that that supports mail spamming is not encouraged/recommened to be written
19:23.52Xinhuanespecially for use by gold spammers/sellers
19:24.02nappy-hm okay i understand
19:24.16nappy-want to send a mail to all guilmates
19:24.17nappy-hm
19:24.30Nandininappy- change the guild MOTD?
19:24.42Xinhuansuch an addon can be written, but its unlikely that anybody would given its potential abuse
19:25.15Xinhuanand if it really got abused, blizzard would just nerf it by removing the capability to do it
19:25.35nappy-u can mark mails at spam dont u?
19:25.41ThreatsThere was some addon I had when I was classleader that let me send mail to multiple people
19:25.52Xinhuanyep
19:25.58Nandiniyes you can report mail messages as spam now
19:26.16charonomeow: ~asktoask
19:26.21balstorhttp://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3153/
19:26.22nappy-so if someone would try, he gets blocked
19:26.22charon~lart purl
19:26.22purlslaps charon around with a large trout
19:26.24charon~asktoask
19:26.25purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
19:26.25ThreatsAm i the only one having issues with kgPanels successfully hiding but then not reappearing?
19:26.29balstorGuild Mailing List **Updated**
19:26.50nappy-thanks
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19:26.59omeowcharon: Why are you showing me this?
19:27.41kergothomeow:  because if you have a question, you should spit it out already and wait and see if anyone knows, rather than trying to find specific people to help
19:27.44charonomeow: oh, sorry, seems i failed at reading the entire backlog
19:27.55Nandinihe did ask his question
19:28.04Xinhuan[4/16 03:23:17] <balstor> hmm so i could build an embedded Babble then by loading up localized translations at the start
19:28.05Xinhuancorrect
19:28.07kergothah, right, i didnt read it all either
19:28.08kergoth:P
19:28.23kergothcharon:  i think you can ahve to bot tell someone about something
19:28.27Xinhuanyou merely need to use GetSpellInfo() at the appropriate places and never have to worry about localization
19:28.28charonomeow: you could put it in a branch or on jira.wowace.com
19:28.28kergoth~tell charon about asktoask
19:28.44charonworks, the bot PMd me :)
19:28.47Xinhuanof course you need to get the spellIDs first, which you can just wowhead for
19:28.49kergothnifty
19:28.56omeowI'll just use pastey.net
19:29.01Dashkal~tell dashkal about asktoask
19:29.24Paenepong Vulcanus
19:29.24Dashkalcute
19:29.41omeowhttp://ace.pastey.net/85835
19:29.44Xinhuanomeow you could ask nevcairiel to look at it, if he's keen to ;p
19:29.47charonon #latex you can double the prefix character as in ~~asktoask to make it active in the middle of a line
19:29.49[Liquidor]Game Time Expires: 15 April 08 22:26 CEST :( -- (it's 21:23 now)
19:29.50Vulcanuswas just gonna say that we should make a cache for the getiteminfo's, theres quite a lot of them ;p
19:29.53charondoesn't seem to work with purl :(
19:30.01omeownevcairiel: Would you mind looking at my patch? =)
19:30.04balstori would rather cache GetSpellInfo in an array then have to call it multiple times for every event fired
19:30.08PaeneVulcanus: yeah, I was thinking about it
19:30.12Dashkalwonder if that works here.  ~~asktoask
19:30.22Dashkalno message tiehr
19:30.25Xinhuanbalstor: that's what everyone does
19:30.26Dashkaleither*
19:30.28nevcairielomeow: just pastey it
19:30.29Dashkaloh well
19:30.40balstorcache?
19:30.47Vulcanusdid you fix it for all the foreigners yet?
19:30.52Paenepartially
19:30.53Xinhuanby "calling GetSpellInfo() at the correct places" i really mean using it to create the table cache of translations
19:31.05Paenegotta do a little more yet
19:31.18Vulcanusah ok
19:31.25Paenegotta go through and fix all the buttons
19:31.29Paenethen it should be working
19:31.33Xinhuanif the function is called rather infrequently, then you won't need to do that of course
19:31.35Paeneooo
19:31.38Paeneand the mounts
19:31.44Paeneneed to use itemID's for the mounts
19:31.54CIA-3903ckknight * r69899 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler - Update TOC
19:32.09Vulcanusthat works too?
19:32.12omeowDoes nobody read the backlog these days? =)
19:32.20omeownevcairiel: [21:29] <omeow> http://ace.pastey.net/85835
19:32.31Paeneno, mount names in the mount table need to be switched to itemID's instead
19:32.34Primersigh...updated bongos and now all my key bindings are gone
19:32.38Vulcanuso
19:32.39Paenesince the English name doesn't work on foreign clients
19:32.43nevcairieli'm too busy to read backlog thats not prefixed with my name
19:32.47Paenethat was the problem :-/
19:33.02Vulcanusye didnt know you could lookup item info or something based on item ids, still learning this stuff ;p
19:33.02MaldiviaXinhuan: GetSpellInfo really isn't that expensive a call
19:33.10Paeneyeah me too
19:33.30PaeneI thought that you could pass the english name and get the localized one, but apparently you can't
19:33.31XinhuanMaldivia, it is if you're using it in an registered unfiltered combat log event ;p
19:34.05Vulcanushehe
19:34.14Xinhuanyou're going to get potentially as many as 100+ events per second in a raid setting
19:34.23PaeneI just got back from my last class for today, so I'm gonna work on it in a bit here
19:34.36VulcanusIm at maggy atm, we're phailing hard :p
19:34.50MaldiviaXinhuan: true... but running though every single spell in the game, takes me... 0.556 sec :)
19:34.54PaeneI also split Cryolysis2.Private from the config menu options
19:35.01nevcairielomeow: looks good
19:35.07Vulcanusaye saw that, that was nice, I kept forgetting where it was at XD
19:35.09pastamancerMaldivia: wow, that's faster than I expected
19:35.34Maldiviain other wirds, around 0.02ms pr call
19:35.40Xinhuanis that a loop over known spellIDs, or a loop from 1-100000
19:35.40Paenefun stuff...I don't raid anymore...I barely play WoW nowadays.  Hence why updates we slow for awhile :-p
19:35.40nevcairielomeow: with 2 little mistakes i think .. ShowWith.dungeon needs a uppercase D
19:35.46charonomeow: why the strange diff invocations o.O
19:35.58Fisker-popquiz assholes
19:36.00Fisker-:D
19:36.11MaldiviaXinhuan: over known ids (all 28079 of them)
19:36.14Fisker-Bloodboil when a priest has fel rage, is flash heal or greater heal best?
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19:36.48nevcairielif you have a concentration aura, greater, if not, flash
19:36.59Xinhuangreater heal generally, your heals are 2x
19:37.08Xinhuanwhen under felrage
19:37.44Xinhuanother healers are keeping the priest alive too
19:37.45Apocothey should be able to just spam flash and stay alive though
19:37.52Apocobetween that and shield
19:38.03Xinhuanso landing the big heals is more important i think
19:38.10MaldiviaXinhuan: hehe, doing a for i=1,100000 do GetSpellInfo(i) end is the same, ie it's a fail-fast for non-existing ids
19:38.31Fisker-yeah Xinhuan
19:38.46Xinhuanactually Maldivia, that's because iterating over a table of known spellIDs is much more expensive than a straight 1-10000 loop
19:38.54Apocoyeah
19:39.11MaldiviaXinhuan: shouldn't be that much more expensive
19:39.17Apocobut considering there aren't spells for all 1-10000 id's
19:39.18Xinhuanits well known that for i = 1, #t do local v = t[i] end is far faster than using ipairs()
19:39.27Xinhuanby far faster, i mean like 20-30% faster
19:39.35Apocoie: 2 is not an id
19:39.36Apoco:p
19:39.48nevcairiel2 is an id
19:39.53MaldiviaXinhuan, my other way is for i=1,#SpellList.Data do GetSpellInfo(SpellList.Data[i]) end
19:39.58Apoconot according to my client.
19:40.07Xinhuanthat's slow Maldivia
19:40.10nevcairielit just doesnt have a spell associated to it
19:40.14Apocolol
19:40.20Xinhuanyou should have a local t = SpellList.Data before the loop
19:40.22Apocoits not a spellID then :p
19:40.23Xinhuanand use t[]
19:40.23pastamancerfyi, 47653 is the highest spellid as of 2.4.0
19:40.41Xinhuanbecause that loop is deferencing SpellList.Data on every call
19:41.32Josh_Borkethat's a lot of spells
19:41.32Xinhuanover 29k calls, it adds up to quite a bit
19:41.32CIA-3903saroz * r69900 10sRaidFrames/sRaidFrames.lua: sRaidFrames: Fix Heroism
19:41.32Xinhuani'll say about 50ms even
19:41.32Josh_Borkeit's true, table lookups are expensive
19:41.32Josh_Borkei had a bunch in an on-update i had once
19:41.37Josh_Borkewent from 400 ms to 30 ms just by optimizing them away
19:42.20Xinhuani increased the speed of Routes route generation by 25% just by using t[a*N-b] instead of t[a][b]
19:42.32Xinhuani.e a one dimensional table rather than 2
19:43.05MaldiviaXinhuan: local'izaing the table saves... 4ms
19:43.06Silviu-~seen vhaarr
19:43.09purlvhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 8h 50m 9s ago, saying: 'Zeksie: it won't do that if you define your Mount set correctly'.
19:43.30Xinhuanah well, but every bit helps right? :)
19:43.35Maldiviaofcourse :)
19:43.57Xinhuani'm not even sure if the game caches GetSpellInfo() internally
19:44.05Maldiviait does
19:44.10Xinhuanlike, read data from spells.dbc on first call, but caches results for subsequent calls
19:44.24pastamancerwell, I'd imagine that Spell.dbc stays in memory
19:44.25Maldiviaspells.dbs is loaded on start up
19:44.39Xinhuanbut does it really keep all 30k spells in memory?
19:44.45Xinhuanor only load the needed ones on demand
19:44.53MaldiviaI'd say it keeps it in memory
19:44.55Xinhuanfor eg, the server loads itemlinks on demand
19:44.57nevcairielthe spell info cant be that big on memory
19:45.05Xinhuanrather than all 30k items on load
19:45.09Maldiviaspells.dbc is around 26mb
19:45.12ThreatsI'm new at this whole thing. I'm trying to make a kgpanel that will move when I have a target, I know how to resize is self:SetWidth(whatever), but what's the Set to move it?
19:45.21MaldiviaXinhuan: that's data-mining protection :)
19:45.29nevcairiel26mb is nothing for a game that eats up 400mb on load :P
19:45.30Xinhuanyeah, but you could also view it as LoD
19:45.44Xinhuanwhich improves game performance
19:45.49Nandiniread once, cache forever
19:45.55OlisonGuys :) Why is everyone changing to git with their 100 files repos and two commits a week? ?:D?
19:46.11Olisonslap me with a *BECAUSE ITS BETTER* please :))
19:46.27nevcairielXinhuan: actually LoD decreases performance ;)
19:46.40Xinhuanpossibly hehe
19:46.46[TUE]Natherulin bongos3 how do i make it copy a bar with spells when i change stance, or is it even possible when its configured like one block?
19:46.52benOlison: Branches are easier, you do not need a server, it is faster
19:46.53Nandinicache on demand would decrease performance a lot if you are really going to iterate them all in one go
19:46.54MaldiviaXinhuan: and as for 30k items... that would only be around 15mb :)
19:46.56PolarinaDependant on CPU time you have to spare for the LoD process.
19:47.03Xinhuancould be better to load it all at once incurring one file access, as opposed to continually loading
19:47.04charonOlison: because we all worship linus' choices
19:47.10MaldiviaXinhuan: so no, that's not performance reasons they are not loaded on the server
19:47.11benThat too
19:47.16Olisoncharon: yes indeed :D
19:47.26nevcairielthe server probably loads the items database in one go
19:47.31nevcairielbut has a "unlocked" flag on all
19:47.32nevcairielor so
19:47.34OlisonAs i said, linux kernel and 100files project are right at the same level :D
19:47.41Maldiviayeah, my thoughts exactly, nev
19:47.46omeowcharon: Because I don't really know what the best method is. I just figured this stuff out on my own.
19:47.49omeowWhat's wrong exactly?
19:47.57benOlison: So I should use a slower program on purpose?
19:48.09OlisonBut i guess i should actually try it before starting a holy war yet again
19:48.16Olisonis accepting slaps.
19:48.19omeownevcairiel: Ah you're right. I missed that.
19:48.22SunTsuben: Why convert something that is working?
19:48.28OlisonOnoes :<
19:48.28Maldivianevcairiel: just like some S4 items have beend unlocked on the armory :)
19:48.29kergothOlison:  i use git because its easy to go offlien with it, its smoking fast no matter what i want to do, and its easy to rewrite and manipulate the history
19:48.33OlisonRollback
19:48.33benSunTsu: I never actually used SVN so I am not converting myself.
19:48.33kergothamong other reasons
19:48.46Pkekyo|~time
19:48.46purlYou cannot understand nature's perfect time cube! (2008.04.15 19:48:46 GMT)
19:48.49benFor my own projects, I mean
19:48.51kergothgit grep, git bisect, git log -S, git log --grep..
19:49.02ckknight<3 git
19:49.13Maldiviait makes you all gitty?
19:49.14ckknightCart3 uses git
19:49.18ckknightquite, Maldivia
19:49.20charonOlison: what kergoth said. there's nothing worse than trying to work on an SVN repository, then noticing you're sitting in a train and won't have internet access again for another hour
19:49.21omeow(Updated the patch)
19:49.28ckknighthey kergoth, did you check out Cart3?
19:49.36[TUE]Natherulin bongos3 how do i make it copy a bar with spells when i change stance, or is it even possible when its configured like one block?
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19:49.44kergothyeah, looking very cool.  didnt look at the code, but in game, very smooth
19:49.45OlisonAlright :))
19:49.50nevcairielkergoth: just to clarify some things about git, it keeps the full repo locally, and i can push those changes to a central place like github when i go online again, but still use revert/branches etc while offline?
19:50.00kergothyep
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19:50.14SunTsuben: Well, I still use CVS ;)
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19:50.22kergothSunTsu:  poor guy
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19:50.23benSunTsu: Ugh
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19:50.32kergothnon-atomic commits FTL
19:50.49charonomeow: the path prefixes are too long, usually people use 1 level, sometimes 0
19:50.50nevcairielat least it can branch
19:51.03ckknightmore important, nevcairiel, it can merge
19:51.12ckknightsomething that svn lacks
19:51.17SunTsukergoth: Well, I use it mainly for config files and my scripts. It does what I need, so I don#t see any use to convert to something else
19:51.18kergothcvs branches and tags are -so- heavy, its sad
19:51.18ckknight(imho)
19:51.20CIA-3903Zimran * r69901 10Yap/ (. Yap.lua Yap.toc):
19:51.20CIA-39Yap: initial commit
19:51.20CIA-39- Minimalistic chat frame enrichment.
19:51.37Nandinihooray for replication and merge
19:51.46nevcairieli never looked on that side of it kergoth, i only know that it works =P
19:51.48kergothyeah, svn alone doesnt track merge/branch points, need svnmerge or something
19:52.02NivFreak1.5 will fix that
19:52.07NivFreakin theory
19:52.08charonalso, gitk usually saves the day for me, no more "what happened where" confusion
19:52.13CIA-3903neotron * r69902 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: Add extra raid members to standby (i.e ones in group > 5), added option to add standby in the normal event attendee list when exporting (drycoded).
19:52.25Xinhuanin theory, we're all waiting for svn 1.5 to crash wowace
19:52.27omeowcharon: ah, I see.
19:52.29ckknightNivFreak: I seriously doubt it will change much. Also, why wait? There's no release date.
19:52.30Xinhuanthen we can all switch to git
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19:52.37OlisonI take back everything. That clone went indeed blazingly fast :o
19:52.48NivFreakckknight: well for us, moving from a massive svn repository to all git is a PITA
19:52.49kergothi got spoiled using distributed scm back with bk
19:52.52Gngskckknight, where you keeping cart3?
19:52.52NivFreakso some people use git2svn
19:52.56kergothgit is like bk, but not slow as hell
19:52.56nevcairielgit seriously needs a w32 client
19:53.16nevcairieli dont even want a GUI
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19:53.17nevcairieljust native console client
19:54.03EvilJohn_doing it from cygwin is a pain?
19:54.03NivFreakalso, git is missing a lot of features still
19:54.03omeowcharon: In WinMerge's patch generator, that must be the "context" option?
19:54.03kergothmsysgit has come a long ways.. not native, but it works
19:54.03NivFreakeven though it has some good core functionality ;)
19:54.03bengit-svn \o/
19:54.04Xinhuan[4/16 03:49:02] -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all! As you are aware we're preparing to move to a new Services package --
19:54.04charon.oO( nev seriously needs a real OS *cough* )
19:54.04benNivFreak: Like what?
19:54.04Xinhuanso what's a new Services package
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19:54.04NivFreaksecurity and access control :)
19:54.05nevcairielcharon: cant, i work as a windows developer =P
19:54.05ckknightGngsk: Gitorious, currently. I'll be putting it primarily on Curseforge soon.
19:54.05kergothyou can implement access control with groups and all easily enough in a hook
19:54.55SroshXinhuan, ChanServ, NickServ, MemoServ, those kind of things.
19:54.55omeowHm, apparently not.
19:54.56kergothbut i agree, git's protocol sucks being read only, having to rely on webdav or ssh..
19:54.56kergothick
19:54.56charonomeow: never tried winmerge, but no, context usually means the amount of extra unchanged neighbouring lines that 'diff' will put in the patch to help 'patch' find the changed places
19:54.56ckknightnevcairiel: what about msysgit?
19:54.56omeowOh well. I'm pretty sure it's usable.
19:54.56Xinhuani'm aware of that, Srosh, i'm more interested in what's new
19:54.56NivFreakkergoth: it's hackish and not very performant ;P
19:54.56ckknightkergoth: I made curseforge use gitosis
19:54.58kergothnice
19:54.58omeowYea, I figured that out on my own. ;)
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19:55.03kergothi love that gitosis stores its config in a git repo
19:55.03ckknightkergoth: so basically you upload your ssh pubkey and you're good to go
19:55.03SroshGreater version number? :P Sorry, misunderstood your question then.
19:55.03kergothnods
19:55.06nevcairielckknight: i dont really like the msys/mingw shit =P
19:55.08ckknightI know, it's both hilarious and awesome
19:55.24ckknightnevcairiel: ah. Well, slowly but surely, git is becoming more libraryized
19:55.37ckknightwhich'll make a native windows port easier
19:55.40kergoththere was a summer of code project for a lib, but dont think it got too far yet
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19:55.46omeowAnyway, how do I get this patch merged with the main code? Do I wait for Antiarc's okay or.. what's the best way to proceed from here?
19:55.47ckknightyea
19:55.51nevcairielwe dont have summer yet either!
19:56.04nevcairielomeow: yes you wait for Antiarc ;)
19:56.09omeowAlrighty.
19:56.19kergothheh
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19:56.24kergothit was 97 degrees out here yesterday
19:56.26kergothin april
19:56.39kergothboo for AZ
19:56.51charonomeow: oh, some manpage reading indicates that i'm in fact wrong and 'patch' will by default strip everything right up to the basename
19:56.53ckknightkergoth: it was like 45 degrees here yesterday
19:56.54charonsorry.
19:56.55SunTsuI seriously hope you are talking about Fahrenheit
19:56.56ckknightkergoth: AL ;-)
19:57.05kergothhehe, yes, F
19:57.26omeowcharon: Hm, right.
19:57.33nevcairielcharon: patch is quite smart! :)
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19:57.38omeowI made this patch using WinMerge on Windows though. ;)
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19:58.11Tulariswhat's wrong with 45 degrees Celsius ?
19:58.17Tularisjust a bit warm :)
19:58.19Kurax26 Celsius here
19:58.25PolarinaTularis: That's too hot.
19:58.26Xinhuan45 C is hot enough to cook an egg fyi
19:58.27SunTsuTularis: <@kergoth> it was 97 degrees out here yesterday
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19:58.38ckknightTularis: Fahrenheit.
19:58.44TularisI know :p
19:58.45Kuraxand you may not living long under 45 Celsius
19:58.45charonnevcairiel: except that the default is so smart that everyone sends around -p1 patches, probably to avoid confusion when 'diff'ing something in a subdirectory :)
19:58.57Josh_Borkelua> 9/5 * 45 + 32
19:58.57lua_botJosh_Borke: 113
19:59.04SunTsuTularis: 97°C would be quite a burner ;)
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19:59.11Tulariswas just saying there'd be nothing wrong with 45 degrees C! I had that on a vacation in Tunesia last year
19:59.14Josh_Borke45 C is hot
19:59.17Tulariswas... fun :)
19:59.18Josh_Borkebut it's survivable
19:59.29HjalteHehe. The transparacy toggle in oRA2's cooldown monitor only works for the "cooldown" text which is hidden anyway when the bars are locked :P
19:59.37SnagoIt all depends on the humidity
19:59.43kergoththe only reason i like -p1 more than -p0 is because the directory often contains the version number, and most people dont document what the patch applies against, so thats all you have to go on
19:59.58Ozguli`there was 40-50C in shade when I was in Romania last summer..
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20:00.08SunTsuHm, apropos cd monitor ;) Is there any way to obtain what kind of cd it is showing the bar for? ;)
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20:00.23Ozguli`some news crew baked eggs on the street :S
20:00.23charoni'll repeat my shaman question just to have something to do... any Mana Tide users around who would share some combat logs?
20:00.45Ozguli`fried
20:00.55Ozguli`no idea, I'm not a native english speaker
20:01.07ckknightit's fried
20:01.24SunTsuOzguli`: If there was much traffic probably "scrambled2 ;)
20:01.31SunTsus/2/"/
20:02.00Ozguli`eheh.
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20:04.50CIA-3903neotron * r69903 10MagicDKP/Config.lua: MagicDKP: Fixed typo. Drycoding is bad?
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20:08.01NivFreakdo you still need capped SR for mother shaz?
20:08.18NivFreakfor the entire raid
20:08.30charontanks don't
20:08.36Xinhuancap is 365, 330-350 is fine
20:08.36NivFreakironic
20:08.44Xinhuanany less you risk dying
20:08.46NivFreakbut everyone in the raid needs 330ish?
20:09.11Xinhuanyes
20:09.14Xinhuanexcept the MT
20:09.26NivFreakso how many hearts per person is that?
20:09.29Xinhuan6
20:09.29NivFreak8?
20:09.31NivFreak6
20:09.31NivFreakk
20:09.33NivFreakjesus
20:09.34Xinhuanat least 6
20:09.36NivFreakgoing to be a long time
20:09.57charonXinhuan: well, the OTs don't either, do they
20:09.58NivFreakso knowing the way things go, we need 175 to get started
20:09.59NivFreakhehe
20:10.04Xinhuan1 for cloak, 1 for bracer, 2 for belt, 2 for boots
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20:10.06NivFreakthat's a bit nuts
20:10.13Xinhuan(and 3 for legs, you don't really make those)
20:10.22Arrowmasteri have legs....
20:10.31NivFreakwouldn't you only need 295SR anyway?
20:10.32Xinhuanyou only make the legs if you have a good reason to
20:10.38NivFreakor is 330 post shadow buff
20:10.41KuraxWhat's drycode? I suppose it means dont repeat yourself?
20:10.43Daemonamoblevel * 5
20:10.46Xinhuanyeah, those 4 pieces above + BT neck only gives about 250
20:10.50Daemona73*5 -> 365
20:10.53NivFreakright
20:10.57ckknightKurax: no, it means you haven't tested
20:10.59Arrowmasteryou get 370 post shadow prot with bt neck
20:10.59NivFreakbut 70 from the priest buff
20:11.01SunTsuKurax: drycode? Just coded, never tested
20:11.01nevcairielanything above 300 is fine for not dying
20:11.01Xinhuanyou still need SR cloak enchant and possible some SR armor kits and
20:11.08Xinhuan+4 resist all gems
20:11.09HjalteDoes anyone know if it's possible somewhere to see partial resists in Recount?
20:11.10KuraxI see
20:11.11ckknightKurax: when referring to DRY, use all caps
20:11.17Xinhuanor a green piece of the shadow protection
20:11.37Xinhuanbasically you'll be very tight on HoDs which is why most guilds won't make the legs
20:11.40nevcairielwe just crafted the legs after we were swimming hearts =P
20:11.47Xinhuanat least, until its on farm
20:11.49nevcairiel+in
20:11.58Xinhuani just sell HoDs on the AH now
20:12.03Xinhuan+250g per hoD for the gbank
20:12.10Xinhuanthen allow repairs for raiders ;p
20:12.15Xinhuanfrom gbank
20:12.30nevcairielwe have 100k gold in the gbank now .. wonder if we should give some money to the raiders .. even through repair would be fine
20:12.56Arrowmasteri make money raiding even with repairbills
20:13.04Arrowmaster10g a boss is nuts
20:13.04Xinhuanand those emeralds... fuck even selling 2 emeralds per day on the Ah, i'm still swimming in emeralds
20:13.06nevcairielsince 2.4 nearly everyone does
20:13.07Xinhuanlike 80+ of them
20:13.21HjalteKalman|: DotDotDot doesn't register my ISB (the debuff mobs get when I crit with shadow bolts)
20:13.25Arrowmasteremeralds suck
20:13.42SunTsua co-worker of mine recently commented a newly written piece of his with "dry coded at 4am -
20:13.44Xinhuani give them out to ppl for like resilience/stam pvp gear lol
20:13.46Xinhuanand still swim in them
20:14.03CIA-3903neotron * r69904 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Attempt to add dummy item to events without items to make CTRT importer happy (drycoded).
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20:14.20CIA-3903funkydude * r69905 10StatBlocks_Latency/StatBlocks_Latency.lua: StatBlocks_Latency: Add alignment, add profile callbacks for switching profile
20:14.22SunTsususpicous at best, mostly dubious"
20:19.33NeoTronwhomever wrote the CTRT importer for eqdkp really smoked something interesting
20:19.42NeoTronit's about the worst code I've ever seen
20:19.59Olisoni LOVE alignments for statblocks :D
20:20.06Arrowmasteryup
20:20.36ArrowmasterNeoTron: i love the part where it completely ignores everything in the xml section that lists all the raidmembers seen and their level/class
20:20.47Arrowmasterand instead reads the join section
20:20.50NeoTronnevcairiel: our guildbank is at like 70kg - we give free enchants and gems plus random other perks but not repairs
20:21.11NeoTronArrowmaster: making an exporter for that retarded format is annoying
20:21.14SunTsuNeoTron: Well, I am currently reading a shell script by somebody who checks whether a file exists twice in a given directory, bu assumes that the route which he remotely controls never ever does something unexpected. So you think it can get worse?
20:21.16Arrowmasteryup
20:21.16NeoTronI plan to make my own format and my own importer
20:21.18nevcairielwe've always handed out free gems for the raiding gear
20:21.20NeoTronat some point
20:21.20Arrowmasterive dont it before
20:21.28CIA-3903paene * r69906 10Cryolysis2/ (9 files in 2 dirs):
20:21.28CIA-39Cryolysis2:
20:21.28CIA-39- Finished switching GetSpellInfo() calls to using SpellID's
20:21.35ZhinjioGood afternoon.
20:21.36Arrowmasterwas trying to make the dkpmon exporter work until my guild stoped using dkp
20:22.03NeoTronI've hacked the importer to handle empty events (no items) but now added so each event without items get a netherweave added to it :P
20:22.35NeoTronsince I'm trynig to make this shit work for a friend
20:22.41NeoTronwho doesn't used a hacked ctrt
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20:23.55CIA-3903benumbed * r69907 10DaHud/modules/Buffs/Core.lua:
20:23.55CIA-39DaHud:
20:23.55CIA-39<PROTECTED>
20:23.58nevcairielour ctrt export works fine for events without items in them
20:24.02Arrowmastergood luck
20:24.06Arrowmasterim off to class
20:24.50Arrowmasteraka bb in 30 minutes once i get to class and loged in
20:25.02Vulcanuspaene: hopefully that will shut those foreign bastards up, I had an insult fight with this guy yest because he was insulting us because we apparently "can't code add on that works" and we "shouldn't be releasing add ons" :p
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20:26.13PolarinaAnyone knows of a simple addon to sort the bank and/or backbacks?
20:26.28Polarinas/backbacks/backbags/
20:26.34VulcanusArkInv can do it, but it's not simple by any stretch of the imagination
20:27.13CIA-3903durcyn * r69908 10/branches/Assessment/: mkdir
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20:29.33Kalman|Hjalte: It's not defined in the debufflist it whitelists by default.  It's easy enough to add in, though.
20:29.58charonhmm, _something_ stole all icons in my spellbook
20:30.29Daemonaanyone elses eu server just crashed?
20:30.48VenaraSomebody knows if there is a problem with XRS atm? I deleted it completely (Addons and WTF) and reinstalled it. But it seems to be broken partially
20:31.06StanzillaDaemona: yup
20:31.15kergothis XRS actually maintained nowadays? maybe you should try aX_RaidStatus, looks like that one is
20:31.16Daemonawhat server are you on?
20:31.21Daemona< eu destromath
20:31.25Daemonadoing illidan
20:31.27Stanzillazirkel des cenarius
20:31.31Daemonailldian casts shadow prison
20:31.35VenaraXRS received an update 2 days ago, changelog said its still supported
20:31.40Daemonawait... wait ... wait ... wait
20:31.43Daemonaraid: lag?
20:32.00Daemona7 bigwigs bars for shadow fiends
20:32.03Daemonawipe
20:32.05Daemonadisconnect
20:32.34Stanzillahehe
20:32.35Funkeh`I got kciekd from a bg
20:32.38Funkeh`and joined another
20:32.42Funkeh`that was my experience
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20:33.19moonsorrowxrs is at least not maintained anymore from me, but I've seen that some other guys are applying some bug fixes etc.
20:33.26Stanzillalogin server down :(
20:33.51Venaramoonsorrow: well, it worked with 2.4. then somebody made 2 updates and now it doesn't :/
20:34.13moonsorrowthen just revert back to that version
20:34.33Venaramh, you've got a point there *downloading*
20:35.10Venaranow i just need to figure out how to prevent jWoWUpdater to update xrs :>
20:35.24moonsorrowand maybe look at who could have possible broken it and report it to him
20:35.31Venaraokay
20:35.46CivrockVenara: Add it to the jWU Addon Ignore List.
20:35.51NeoTronnevcairiel: CT_RT doesn't support events without items afaik
20:35.56Daemonavenara
20:35.58VenaraCivrock: ah, thanks :D
20:36.00Daemonaadd a .svn folder
20:36.03Daemonain the addon folder
20:36.16NeoTronnevcairiel: if you mean a "snapshot" that is a raid without events
20:36.16nevcairielNeoTron: works for us .. we use time based DKP and when learning bosses we dont have items :P
20:36.21Daemonae.g. \interface\addons\xrs\.svn
20:36.36NeoTronand I'm talking about the importer too, not exporter
20:36.39VenaraDaemona: okay. whats that good for?
20:36.41NeoTronlike CRTR for eqdkp
20:37.06Daemonausually that folder holds the properties for the snv client and when the updater tools find such a folder
20:37.07NeoTronit does not add any events if said events lack items
20:37.21nevcairielwe use eqdkp-plus and its importer and a CTRT eqdkp version
20:37.24Daemonathey skip it as they assume you want to manage them with your svn tool
20:37.42Daemonaat least WAU does it that way ;)
20:37.44NeoTronit's possible you use a different version
20:37.44VenaraDaemona: ah, thanks for that one, didn't know that
20:38.05NeoTronbut the one I have iterates through all items ni the export and creates events based on what is in the note of the items looted
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20:38.31nevcairieloh well
20:38.39nevcairielwe just import them individually
20:38.44nevcairielcreate a new snapshot per hour
20:38.46mikmalulz
20:39.30CIA-3903Jebus905 * r69909 10JebusMail/ (. JebusMail.lua JebusMail.toc):
20:39.30CIA-39JebusMail: initial commit
20:39.30CIA-39- mailbox enhancements
20:39.35nevcairielanyway, to bed with me
20:39.44NivFreakare there any addons that will automatically Master loot items to predefined people?
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20:41.48NeoTronnevcairiel: that's entirely different
20:41.54NeoTronnevcairiel: that's a raid without events every hour..
20:42.55Fisker-:OOOOO
20:42.57Fisker-bloodboil down
20:43.08Fisker-only took us like 4 hours of tries
20:43.08Fisker-wewt
20:43.27EvilJohn_grats!
20:43.42EvilJohn_he's gets easier pretty fast
20:43.43Fisker-so btw Chompers
20:43.46Fisker-how goes archimonde?
20:43.49Fisker-yeah evilcazz
20:43.52Fisker-EvilJohn_
20:44.01Fisker-We went from around 60-70% to 13% in one try
20:44.06Fisker-and then a couple of 30% and then a kill
20:44.22EvilJohn_yeah, that's about our experience as well
20:44.56NeoTronNivFreak: would be handy yes
20:45.04NeoTronNivFreak: wonder if it's possible
20:45.05CIA-3903paene * r69910 10Cryolysis2/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
20:45.05CIA-39Cryolysis2:
20:45.05CIA-39- Finished switching all non-mount GetItemInfo() calls to using itemID's
20:46.43NivFreakNeoTron: not sure, but I'd love it for assigning marks/hearts/greens etc
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20:47.48CIA-3903ackis * r69911 10AckisRecipeList/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
20:47.48CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
20:47.48CIA-39- Added toggles for all reputations
20:47.48CIA-39- Reorged enUS somewhat, did the same with deDE and frFR
20:47.48CIA-39- All dry-coded
20:47.49NeoTronhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GiveMasterLoot  <-- so seems like it'd be possible
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20:48.21MegalonNeoTron: if you just want to, let's say, give everything < epic to one person. that can be even done in a macro
20:48.41Megalonwell, if his charname is something smaller then 150 chars or so ;)
20:48.49NeoTronseems like something I should add to agicdkp
20:48.51NeoTronMagicDKP
20:48.53CIA-3903paene * r69912 10Cryolysis2/Locales/Locale-deDE.lua:
20:48.53CIA-39Cryolysis2:
20:48.53CIA-39- Updated German locale
20:49.25NivFreakMegalon: how?
20:49.32NivFreakbut really what I want, is a little more flexibility
20:50.01NivFreakI want any greens for DE to go to someone
20:50.15NivFreakI want marks / hearts / BoE Blue+ to go to another
20:50.23NivFreakand of course to ignore anything BoP
20:51.08PaeneI don't wanna touch the mount list
20:51.10Paenedon't make me!
20:51.52PaeneLF someone to convert every mount in the game from it's english name to it's itemID
20:51.56Paeneany takers?
20:51.59NivFreakNeoTron: the main reason I always want this is to speed up looting during hyjal trash
20:52.07NivFreaknothing like a fuckup and watching all the loot despawn
20:52.08NivFreakhehe
20:53.30PolarinaPaene: Babble-Mount
20:53.34Kalman|NivFreak: Group Loot.
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20:54.27NeoTronobviously
20:54.30ChompersFisker-
20:54.32NivFreakKalman|: that sucks when people fuck up
20:54.37NeoTronKalman|: talk about annoying first of all
20:54.43NeoTron"popup popup" wtf
20:54.44NivFreakyea
20:54.49Kalman|NeoTron: Works fine for us, honestly.
20:54.57NivFreakit's great that it works for you
20:54.58NivFreakI don't like it
20:54.59NivFreak:P
20:55.02Kalman|You get amazingly good at finding the little red X very quickly.  :p
20:55.16NivFreakI'd rather have my people focused on the task at hand
20:55.22NivFreaknot the random sparkles and loot windows
20:55.39Kalman|It's Hyjal.  At least passing on loot lets us know who's afk.
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20:57.26Chompersteron time, we're so gonna die
20:57.30Chompersi can feel it
20:57.32sbgnnnl
20:57.43sbi think we should start to stack healers for kalecgos
20:57.45Vulcanusmaggy down first time ever :D
20:57.47sbthis sucks sooo bad
20:57.48Vulcanusfor our guild
20:58.49kenlyricI'm trying to feel something, but it's just not happening
20:59.19[TUE]Natherulin bongos3 how do i make it copy a bar with spells when i change stance, or is it even possible when its configured like one block?
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21:00.09CIA-3903Jebus905 * r69913 10JebusMail/:
21:00.09CIA-39JebusMail:
21:00.09CIA-39- initial commit
21:00.10Kalman|sb: What are they having problems healing?
21:00.16Gngskpraise jebus!
21:00.17SunTsuHm, apropos, is there a ways to have bartender3 save the current button layout? Profiles won't seem to do the trick
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21:00.55sbKalman|: ppl too dumb for portals is one thing
21:01.04sband some bad timing for debuffs :(
21:01.15sb2 healers at dragon, mt healer gets +100% cast time
21:01.16sbwipe
21:01.45NeoTronsb: how many healers do you go with?
21:01.50sb8-9
21:02.00NeoTronwe usually use 8
21:02.10SunTsu.o0( Portals, that's classic. Some guy has to go to shattrath, a mage puts up a portal, some other guy mistakes that for a table summon... )
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21:02.39dieckSunTsu: ah, Battleground Noob Filter :)
21:02.49NeoTron{warlock} .oO( Damn, have to summon that moron again )
21:03.05SunTsudieck: No, raid woes ;)
21:03.12dieckah, k
21:03.31SunTsuLast time I requested mages to summon portals away from the crowd
21:04.03PaeneVulcanus: Grats
21:04.22CIA-3903totalpackage * r69914 10Cellular/ (Cellular.toc core.lua):
21:04.22CIA-39Cellular
21:04.22CIA-39- added option to disable the blocking of whispers from default chat windows
21:04.58Daemona\o/ instances up again
21:06.04NivFreakI hate tax day
21:06.05NivFreakheh
21:07.23Higduris there any way to kick a dead player from an instance?
21:07.51Higdurwe have a guy afk for 15 min lying dead without released spirit...
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21:08.30PolarinaHigdur: Report player AFK.
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21:08.52Higdurin a raid :)
21:09.03Higdurwe can't replace him since instance is full
21:09.06Venaramoonsorrow: are you still there? :>
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21:09.19pastamancerHigdur: you have to wait for them to afk-timeout and get disconnected
21:09.22NivFreakHigdur: we've always been able to just remove them from the raid
21:09.37pastamancerthey won't get kicked out of the instance if they're saved
21:10.35hypetechthat afk timeout should be much shorter, or a raid leader should have some force option
21:11.02hypetechora2 should include a module where a raid leader can make an AFK member log out or something
21:11.20SunTsuhypetech: The problem is: Everyone with the same ID has the same right on thast ID
21:11.49ArrowmasterClassora will never have that
21:12.25VenaraArrowmasterClass: is it you who last updated XRS?
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21:14.34ArrowmasterClassyeah, did i break something?
21:14.58Venaraoh well
21:15.04exor674is there a mod that is like a "macro box" sort of mod
21:15.09Venarathe buff buttons don't work correctly anymore
21:15.12sag_ich_nicht[23:11] <hypetech> ora2 should include a module where a raid leader can make an AFK member log out or something <--lol RDX
21:15.13exor674e.g. lets you store macros you aren't using but need to remember
21:15.14Venaraand i can't seem to figure out why
21:15.19ArrowmasterClassVenara: how so?
21:15.46ArrowmasterClasswait buff buttons? i didnt touch those, only the buff report for raid leaders/assist
21:16.04Daemonauuuh is that supposed to happen that opening and closing arkinventory generates 500kb memeory usage each time
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21:16.05Daemona?
21:16.28Venaramhh, it must have been ackis then when he updated something, because it worked pre 2.4
21:16.51ArrowmasterClassyeah theres an issue with the buff report that didnt exist pre 2.4
21:16.57ArrowmasterClassand i cant figure out why
21:17.15Venarawell, let me explain the error i encoutner, maybe it seems familiar or something
21:17.25Dashkal(re ora should have discussion above) meh, any addon that gives somebody else control over my client would be swiftly deleted
21:17.26ArrowmasterClassdoes it have to do with AI?
21:17.34CIA-3903neotron * r69915 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua MagicDKP.lua): MagicDKP: Fixed export issue hopefully and fixed typo in AddRaidConfig (drycoded)
21:17.34Dashkaland the RL impeached for trying to force that
21:17.55Venarafirst, it doesn't count missing buffs correctly. like power word fortitude saying there's no buff missing, but actually there are some
21:18.03DashkalIt's good to be a seinor officer :p
21:18.20Venaraand second, when i create a buff with "enter own buff" like "Greater Blessing of Might" it shows a heart candy as a symbol
21:18.40Venaraand finally, the "Classes" dropdown contains like, um, nothing
21:21.43Venarai just can't seem to figure out why. XRS was totally working after 2.4 was deployed. those errors started after it received several updates
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21:22.19Zyndromehummm, is MyMedia.lua in SharedMedia absolete now? :S
21:23.28ArrowmasterClassno
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21:24.50ZyndromeI've been adding some fonts and sounds, and they don't show up ingame in any dropdown-list, only the ones in SharedMedia.lua
21:24.58Diaoi have no problems with xrs right now o_O
21:25.48dylanmThen something is wrong.
21:26.14ArrowmasterClassDiao: have you used the raidleader/assist announce to raid feature?
21:26.17VenaraDiao: wtf, why is mine not working then. i just don't understand it. i didn't change anything
21:26.29Diaoannounce to raid?
21:26.45Diaoi just use it to keep track of buffs, who's afk/offline/dead
21:26.48Diaolol
21:26.48ArrowmasterClassyeah when you click the button in the top corner
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21:27.55Diaohaven't tried that, no
21:28.13CIA-3903jncl * r69916 10Skinner/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:28.13CIA-39Skinner: Skinned GuildAds & Historian
21:28.13CIA-39- Updated Trinity2 & MSBTOptions
21:28.13CIA-39- Bugfix for FuBar_MSBTFu & MSBTOptions
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21:32.06Pkekyo|"STDs are like Pokémons...you're not cool until you catch'em all" ^^
21:33.30hypetechHas expiration been updated for 2.4? Or does anybody know of any other way to see wtf happened to somebody in a raid?
21:33.45CivrockGrimReaper.
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21:34.38PsychoDoes GrimReaper actually work again? I was under the impression that the combat log wasn't reporting deaths and so all mods of that nature were broken until it was fixed.
21:34.49PsychoOr something to that effect anyway.
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21:35.08sbFFS
21:35.11sb0% / 10%
21:35.12sbthis sucks
21:35.16hypetechya, I wasn't sure if anything was actually working with the new combat log yet
21:35.53VenaraArrowmasterClass: so now i deleted XRS (again..), deleted the SavedVariables, reinstalled it, deactivared all addons, reactivated necessary libs and XRS. buff buttons now work correctly, but the icons for Greater Blessings are still missing and the classes dropdown is empty. will a screenshot help you fixing it? :/
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21:36.02CivrockIt rarely doesn't catch deaths, it usually does.
21:36.06[EU]GunderPsycho: it doesn't tell you they died but you can check what happened in the last minute or so for each player
21:36.35[EU]GunderPsycho: brain + GrimReaper does give results
21:36.40ArrowmasterClassVenara: nah
21:36.46hypetechwhere can I get grim reaper standalone?
21:36.49[SW]Dodgeg'night all^^
21:36.50hypetechI only see it with xperl
21:37.03CivrockIt's in files.
21:37.04[EU]Gunderfiles.wowace.com
21:37.08Psycho[EU]Gunder: I've never used Grimreaper to begin with, I was just repeating what I'd been told.
21:37.26Felth!= not equal too in lua as always? No special crap?
21:37.27GrumI HATE BRUTALLUS .. crai
21:37.39hypetechoh...I didn't realize it was in the ace svn
21:37.47PrimerTuller: latest bongos3 nukes keybindings. Intentional?
21:38.11PrimerFelth: ~=
21:38.12VenaraArrowmasterClass: :( i want it to work again *cry*
21:38.18FelthPrimer O.o ok ty
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21:38.23Tullerif you upgraded from older beta 8 or less, yes
21:38.38ArrowmasterClassVenara: which class dropdown is empty?
21:38.43CIA-3903funkydude * r69917 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua:
21:38.43CIA-39StatBlocks_Clock:
21:38.43CIA-39- Add alignment
21:38.43CIA-39- Add callbacks for profile changing
21:39.48hypetechooo. a clock.
21:39.54hypetechless and less reasons for fubar by the day :p
21:39.57vithosGrum: not enough dps?
21:40.12VenaraArrowmasterClass: when i right-click a buff button, regardless which one and hover over the "Classes" entry where you select for which classes it should be shown. this dropdown shows 9 little ticks but nothing else
21:40.21PrimerTuller: ok, just curious
21:40.36PrimerFelth: np
21:40.43TullerI had to redo the binding system to work with non us locales, basically
21:40.48Tullerfor state bindings fails there
21:40.57Tullernot to mention state bindings failing on ;
21:42.05FelthIm not allowed to target things thru an addon?
21:42.06Primerahh
21:42.12ArrowmasterClassVenara: what language are you in?
21:42.24PrimerFelth: proximo can do it
21:42.27VenaraArrowmasterClass: enGB client
21:42.52FelthPrimer: Proximo : \ ? (Im newb)
21:43.02PrimerFelth: it's an arena addon
21:43.20Primernot sure how it targets people, but I know it can
21:43.31FelthLets say i have a name in the variable "name" xD
21:43.37Grumvithos: 3% wipe, 1% wipe ;"(
21:43.47Grum0.025% actually
21:43.48FelthTargetUnit(name);
21:43.50Grumgaaah
21:43.56FelthPrimer: Hmm ok
21:44.19vithoslol grum, we had those too :(
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21:44.24Kalman|Felth: You can't target units *while in combat* through an addon.
21:44.26vithosyou'll get it though
21:44.41Grumyeah .. last try now .. crai
21:44.43Kalman|I believe Proximo gets around it by creating secure frames out of combat to reference people.
21:44.46FelthKalman|: But im not in combat, but get popup in wow that inly WOW UI allowed to use it.
21:45.01Kalman|Yep.  I don't think you can use TargetUnit at all.
21:45.02ArrowmasterClassyou cant use TargetUnit() at all
21:45.15FelthKalman|: Ah, what function then ? :\
21:45.22ShadowedKalman|: You can't target *new* units while in combat through an addon :p
21:45.29Shadowedyou can target people in combat, just can't change who
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21:45.35PrimerKalman|: hrmm, then how does proximo do it?
21:45.54Kalman|Primer: Presumably via creation of secure templated frames that reference the appropriate unit.
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21:46.13FelthWell, i just want my addon to target the name i got in my variable, how would i do that? (No in combat)
21:46.14CIA-3903funkydude * r69918 10StatBlocks_Memory/StatBlocks_Memory.lua:
21:46.14CIA-39StatBlocks_Memory:
21:46.14CIA-39- Add alignment
21:46.14CIA-39- Add profile changing callbacks
21:46.28Grumjust check how proximo does it? :)
21:46.45ShadowedFelth: Create a secure button with a macrotext type, then set /targetexact <name> as the macrotext
21:46.45ArrowmasterClassyou have to use secureframes
21:46.50Shadowedit's not too hard
21:47.19VenaraArrowmasterClass: http://epochenkampf.lima-city.de/dreamroot/xrs1.jpg and http://epochenkampf.lima-city.de/dreamroot/xrs2.jpg - should give you an impression what i'm talking about
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21:50.23ArrowmasterClassVenara: is that dropdown blank like that for all of the buttons or just the custom ones?
21:50.24CIA-3903funkydude * r69919 10StatBlocks_FPS/StatBlocks_FPS.lua:
21:50.24CIA-39StatBlocks_FPS:
21:50.24CIA-39- Add alignment
21:50.24CIA-39- Add callbacks for profile changing
21:50.40VenaraArrowmasterClass: for all of them
21:50.52ArrowmasterClassthat is weird
21:51.15ArrowmasterClassunless im looking at the wrong code it shouldnt do that
21:51.42Venarawell, i'm using it now with no addons whatsoever activated and a completely new WTF folder
21:52.07ArrowmasterClassstarting around line 356 of XRS_BuffClass.lua, if you want try changing all the BC["ClassName"]'s to "ClassName"
21:52.17ArrowmasterClasssee if that fixes it
21:52.22Venarai'll try
21:53.22ZyndromeSML:Register("border", "Hal Border", "Interface\\Addons\\SharedMedia\\MyMedia files\\HalBorder.tga") <- only this entry shows up in eePanels , and none of the fonts and sounds defined in MyMedia.lua shows up in i.e. ClassTimer :/
21:54.07CIA-3903ackis * r69920 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
21:54.07CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
21:54.07CIA-39- Added code for reputation toggles
21:54.07CIA-39- All dry-coded
21:54.08ArrowmasterClassZyndrome: the addons might not be using LSM properly
21:54.21ArrowmasterClassWHERE THE HELL IS ACKIS!
21:54.31ArrowmasterClass~seen ackis
21:54.37purlackis <n=ackis@S0106000ea64881e9.ed.shawcable.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 16h 35m 28s ago, saying: '62% on second twin =/'.
21:54.38CIA-3903funkydude * r69921 10StatBlocks_Durability/StatBlocks_Durability.lua:
21:54.38CIA-39StatBlocks_Durability:
21:54.38CIA-39- Add alignment
21:54.38CIA-39- Add callbacks for profile changing
21:55.11ArrowmasterClassVenara: you do have lua errors enabled right?
21:55.12CIA-3903kemayo * r69922 10LibFriends-1.0/ (9 files in 4 dirs): LibFriends-1.0: == TheSocial-1.0 but LibStubby. And with a less stupid name.
21:55.46VenaraArrowmasterClass: i sure have, there are none. only one when i try to access XRS through Rock Config
21:57.21seid~seen Roartindon
21:57.22purlroartindon <n=jtlim@cm32.delta200.maxonline.com.sg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 44d 12h 22m 33s ago, saying: 'Because it receives one parameter sometimes, two parameters at others'.
21:58.33CIA-3903paene * r69923 10Cryolysis2/core/ (mounts.lua spellfunctions.lua):
21:58.33CIA-39Cryolysis2:
21:58.33CIA-39- Mount detection is now based on itemID's instead of itemName's
21:59.19CIA-3903funkydude * r69924 10StatBlocks_Omen/StatBlocks_Omen.lua:
21:59.19CIA-39StatBlocks_Omen:
21:59.19CIA-39- Add alignment
21:59.19CIA-39- Add profile callbacks
21:59.25ArrowmasterClassnevcairiel: i think there might be something wrong with your XRS Babble-Class-2.2 to LibBabble-Class-3.0 update
22:00.09Zyndromebonks Antiarc on the noggin. Doh!
22:00.21Zyndromeis Chatter using SharedMedia properly?
22:00.38ArrowmasterClassno clue
22:00.44Grumyes afaik it is
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22:02.04ArrowmasterClasslooks to be
22:02.06ArrowmasterClasswhy?
22:02.34CIA-3903durcyn 072.4 * r69925 10Assessment/ (31 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
22:02.34CIA-39branches/Assessment/2.4:
22:02.34CIA-39- Babble-Spell removed
22:02.35CIA-39- Updated textures, fonts, and callbacks to use LSM-3.0
22:02.35CIA-39- Started porting modules to 2.4 combat log events, only Damage does anything yet.
22:02.35CIA-39- Damage: SWING, RANGED, and SPELL _DAMAGE work for player, party, and raid.
22:02.37CIA-39_MISS should work, but needs testing. Pet affiliation has to be completely
22:02.55Zyndromeno matter what I do to MyMedia.lua , even take it out for a date and a hot romantic bath, none of the entries shows up ingame in dropdown-lists
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22:03.45ArrowmasterClasswhich entries
22:03.52AntiarcChatter uses LSM-3.0
22:03.53AntiarcJust FYI
22:03.55AntiarcNot 2.0
22:03.57ArrowmasterClassstatusbar? font?
22:04.07Zyndromethis for example : SML:Register("font", "MicroN", "Interface\\Addons\\SharedMedia\\MyMedia files\\MicroN.ttf")
22:04.14ArrowmasterClassSML?
22:04.19ArrowmasterClasswtf is that?
22:04.35ArrowmasterClasswhere are you using SML?
22:04.39ZyndromeI think I spotted the culprit
22:04.41durcynyou should be using SharedMedia:Register in MyMedia.lua
22:04.48ArrowmasterClassbingo
22:04.49Zyndromedurcyn , yeah I just realized
22:04.55ArrowmasterClass~lart Zyndrome
22:04.55purlwhips out a shotgun, trudges over to Zyndrome, and goes postal
22:05.09StanzillaSharedMedia:Register("font", "Intermosaic B", "Interface\\Addons\\SharedMedia\\MyMedia files\\SFIntermosaicB.ttf") < like that
22:05.17ArrowmasterClassi guess
22:05.24Zyndromeexcuse me while I insert shotgun-shells into my nostrils and bang my head against a board of nails
22:05.25Stanzillaworks for me :)
22:06.25ArrowmasterClasstoo bad we cant reference system fonts
22:06.26CIA-3903ackis * r69926 10AckisRecipeList/ARLOptions.lua:
22:06.26CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
22:06.26CIA-39- Added Reputation category for options
22:06.26CIA-39- All dry-coded
22:06.33ArrowmasterClassACKIS WHERE ARE YOU
22:06.54PrimerThe GMs came through! They awarded me my mis-looted Pit Lord's Satchel!
22:07.05Funkeh`grats
22:07.05Primerexcept...I still have the T4 chest token that was supposed to go to the other dude
22:07.18VenaraArrowmasterClass: renaming those to "ClassName" produces a lua error ingame
22:07.26Primerponders turning it into S1 pvp gear while I still can!
22:07.35[EU]GunderArrowmaster: he's not in the chan right now ^^
22:07.45ArrowmasterClassVenara: ORLY?
22:07.50VenaraArrowmasterClass: Line 399 unexpected symbol near "
22:08.02VenaraArrowmasterClass yarly ^^
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22:08.06Zyndromehowever SharedMedia still includes MyMedia.lua with the old "SML:" instead of "SharedMedia:", which I think have not just ticked me off but anyone else wondering why it wasn't working :P
22:08.21durcynlooks more like a syntax fuckup there, Venara.  what's the line?
22:08.27ArrowmasterClassZyndrome: it does? i swear i changed that
22:08.38Venaradurcyn: 399
22:08.39ArrowmasterClassZyndrome: OH WAIT NO IT DOESNT!
22:08.45durcynno, the contents, i can't be arsed to find the file
22:08.48ArrowmasterClassit doesnt include MyMedia.lua at all
22:08.53durcynpastey it or something
22:08.56Venarawait
22:09.00ZyndromeArrowmasterClass , I blame my Notepad++ for that mistake :\
22:09.16ArrowmasterClassVenara: that line isnt even one i told you to change
22:09.18Zyndrome"MyMedia.lua has been changed. Reload? Y"
22:09.27Zyndromeblasted technology!
22:09.33ZyndromeI'm getting old...
22:09.37VenaraArrowmasterClass: i didnt change it at all ^^
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22:09.50ArrowmasterClasslol
22:10.24ArrowmasterClassthat or im looking at the wrong diff
22:11.24ArrowmasterClassyeah you messed something up
22:11.34CIA-3903charon * r69927 10Omen/Modules/AOE/AOE.lua:
22:11.34CIA-39Omen: fix AOE tank mode to actually do something useful
22:11.34CIA-39Don't tell anyone, but I must have been quite drunk or tired when I
22:11.34CIA-39wrote the original version of this code.
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22:12.17Silviu-charon ;-)
22:12.22charon:S
22:12.26ArrowmasterClassVenara: ok how about just reverting it all back to before i told you to change it
22:12.36VenaraArrowmasterClass: i just did ^^
22:12.48ArrowmasterClassnow change the local BC = LibStub("LibBabble-Class-3.0")
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22:12.57ArrowmasterClassto local BC = LibStub("LibBabble-Class-3.0"):GetLookupTable()
22:13.06ArrowmasterClassno clue if that will do anything
22:13.21ArrowmasterClassand im in no possition to test anything right now
22:13.52Venarawhere do i find that, XRS_BuffClass.lua aswell?
22:13.56ArrowmasterClassyes
22:14.02ArrowmasterClasstop of file
22:14.20Xinhuanso... when i go to wow US forums, the language dropdown box has 2 selections: English and Spanish
22:14.23Xinhuanwhats up with that
22:14.29ArrowmasterClasslol
22:14.32Venaraokay, lets see if it works
22:14.51ArrowmasterClassbecause all the illegals cant speak english
22:15.13VenaraArrowmasterClass: w00t, you're a fucking god, it fixed the dropdown thingy
22:15.39Venaranow i just need to figure out how to get the custom buttons to show the correct symbols
22:15.40ArrowmasterClassthey even do retarded things like try to sue school districts into making spanish an offical language so their kids dont have to know english
22:15.49ArrowmasterClassthen proply getting themselves deported
22:16.02Xinhuanlol
22:16.04ArrowmasterClassVenara: blame ackis for that one
22:16.05StanzillaXinhuan: there will be a new wow locale version for south america
22:16.23Xinhuansouth americans speak spanish? hehe
22:16.25CIA-3903funkydude * r69928 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua:
22:16.25CIA-39StatBlocks_DPS:
22:16.25CIA-39- Add Alignment
22:16.26CIA-39- add profile callbacks
22:16.28ArrowmasterClassXinhuan: could you commit that fix to XRS for me? no svn at school
22:16.34Xinhuanwhat fix
22:16.57ArrowmasterClassXRS_BuffClass.lua, local BC = LibStub("LibBabble-Class-3.0") to  local BC = LibStub("LibBabble-Class-3.0"):GetLookupTable()
22:17.09Xinhuanwhich addon exactly is that
22:17.12ArrowmasterClassXRS
22:17.14VenaraArrowmasterClass: i sure will :P but, since i do not have a svn account or whatever i need. would you be so kind and deploy that "locale BC ..." to the svn
22:17.52ArrowmasterClassbe sure to blame nevcairiel for it in the commit message
22:18.32Venaraabsolutely :p
22:19.34Xinhuanso Arrowmaster
22:19.43Xinhuana mistake made at least 10 days ago wasn't noticed until now??
22:19.50ArrowmasterClassyeah
22:20.00CIA-3903funkydude * r69929 10StatBlocks_MeleeStats/StatBlocks_MeleeStats.lua:
22:20.00CIA-39StatBlocks_MeleeStats:
22:20.00CIA-39- Add alignment
22:20.00CIA-39- Add profile callbacks
22:20.01Xinhuangotta be kidding me
22:20.15Xinhuannobody complained for 10 days?
22:20.23ArrowmasterClassackis buggered something else up that i cant find
22:21.47StanzillaKaelten: Happy Birthday :P
22:21.55Kaeltenthanks :)
22:22.23CIA-3903xinhuan * r69930 10XRS/XRS_BuffClass.lua:
22:22.23CIA-39XRS:
22:22.23CIA-39- Fix LibBabble-Class-3.0 error
22:22.23CIA-39~slap nevcairiel
22:22.24purlACTION slaps nevcairiel, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
22:22.32ArrowmasterClassperfect
22:22.32CIA-3903benumbed * r69931 10DaHud/plugins/Bars/Health.lua:
22:22.32CIA-39DaHud:
22:22.32CIA-39<PROTECTED>
22:22.37VenaraxD
22:22.50KaeltenXinhuan: lol
22:22.53ArrowmasterClassnow to find the damn bug in XRS.lua
22:22.53Yssarilrofl for getting CIA to slap someone
22:22.58CIA-3903Jebus905 * r69932 10JebusMail/:
22:22.58CIA-39JebusMail:
22:22.58CIA-39- Fixed External libs pathing
22:23.24ArrowmasterClasswhere it reports warriors and rogues as missing AI
22:24.19charonperhaps an inverted test that was intended to _never_ report that?
22:24.22ArrowmasterClassi probably should be paying attention to this database management and design class im in since i dont know how to do anything in access07
22:24.37ArrowmasterClassoh no theres a test for it
22:24.38hypetechwhat's a good very very lightweight fubar mail mod?  I basically just want it to say whether I have mail, or no mail in a spot on fubar.  Not really looking for details or features
22:24.53ArrowmasterClassthe test is for both AI and spirit, but it only reports ai
22:25.01ArrowmasterClassits a weird bug
22:25.15Venarahypetech: FuBar_MailFU
22:25.18Venara*Fu
22:25.29hypetechty
22:25.42VenaraArrowmasterClass: i just tested that report thingy
22:25.50Zyndromeloads WoW after some extensive editing of an old MyMedia.lua
22:25.55Venarait reports AI double for warriors
22:26.07ArrowmasterClassyeah
22:26.23ArrowmasterClassit does one line thats normal for AI then another line that include warirors and rogues
22:26.35ArrowmasterClassdo it does double reports for AI
22:26.51Venarawell it does double reports for me aswell, as i see now, and im a priest oO
22:27.03Zyndromephew, it all looks the same
22:27.03ArrowmasterClassare you the only person in the raid?
22:27.09Venarai am, yes
22:27.12ArrowmasterClasshmm
22:27.15Venaraits only for AI though
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22:27.25ArrowmasterClassok later im riping the entire table recycling out of that damn section
22:27.50Venaracurious
22:28.03Venarait reports AI double, but its doesn't report PWF
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22:28.16ArrowmasterClassVenara: XRS.lua, lines 757-841 change all new()'s to {}
22:28.23ArrowmasterClassoh wait
22:28.24ArrowmasterClassdont
22:28.39ArrowmasterClass844-927
22:28.46VenaraMh, kay
22:28.59ArrowmasterClasschange new()'s to {} and remove any line with a del()
22:29.43ArrowmasterClassshould only be 2 lines with del()
22:29.51Venarak
22:29.57ArrowmasterClassat the end
22:30.06ArrowmasterClassif that works then that table recycling is fucked up
22:30.21Venaranew() to new{} ?
22:30.28Xinhuan-- nil out everything
22:30.29Xinhuanbars = del(bars)
22:30.29Xinhuanbuffs = del(bars)
22:30.34Xinhuannotice line 555 is an error??
22:30.58ArrowmasterClassrolf good catch
22:31.18Xinhuanalthough that doesn't actually cause any recycling issues
22:31.26Xinhuanbecause nil got assigned to buffs
22:32.03ArrowmasterClassand bars was already nil
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22:32.22ArrowmasterClassand that shouldnt effect the problem section at all
22:32.51ArrowmasterClassits something in XRS:BuffCheck()
22:33.24Xinhuan/shrug
22:33.25ArrowmasterClasslol teacher is ranting about stuff again
22:33.35ArrowmasterClassyeah i see nothing wrong with that section but it is
22:34.52CIA-3903neotron * r69933 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Fixed bug in CTRT export format.
22:35.05ArrowmasterClassi havent checked to see if it still reports it if you turn off AI though, which would indicate something else very very wrong
22:35.23Venaralet me see
22:35.24ArrowmasterClassthe double reporting that is
22:36.05CIA-3903ckknight * r69934 10cgProfiler/cgProfiler.toc: cgProfiler - Update toc
22:36.08Venaraah
22:36.13Venarai think i see the problem
22:36.32ArrowmasterClassoh?
22:36.33Venaraturning AI off results in still reporting 4 missing buffs
22:36.40VenaraAI is still reported
22:36.42Venarabut PWF isnt
22:36.45Venaraso my guess is
22:36.50ArrowmasterClassah ha
22:36.51Venaraits saying AI instead of PWF
22:36.56ArrowmasterClass~lart ACKIS
22:36.56purltakes out ACKIS with the trash
22:37.02IronhandCartographer_Cleanup reports on use the removal of a lot of Quest notes... does that mean it will wipe out any quest notes except 1 for every specific location?
22:37.48Xinhuanpwf?
22:37.50CIA-3903neotron * r69935 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Small tweak to export.
22:37.51ArrowmasterClassoh gee now i see the problem
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22:38.12Venarapwf = power word fortitude
22:38.18ArrowmasterClassXinhuan: XRS.lua line 246 and 254
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22:38.38Xinhuanrofl
22:38.39ArrowmasterClassactually both
22:38.40Venaralol, same spell
22:38.48Xinhuanwhat should the sta one be
22:38.53ArrowmasterClasswowhead it
22:38.56Xinhuando it for me
22:39.03ArrowmasterClassim in class but fine
22:39.08Venaraill do it ^^
22:39.48CIA-3903funkydude * r69936 10StatBlocks_Bags/StatBlocks_Bags.lua:
22:39.48CIA-39StatBlocks_Bags:
22:39.48CIA-39- Add alignment
22:39.48CIA-39- Add profile callbacks
22:39.48CIA-39- Add icon
22:39.48Venara25389 is pwf
22:40.22ArrowmasterClass1243
22:40.59ArrowmasterClass21562
22:41.05DashkalXinhuan: Re GatherMate: Is there any way of clearing a specific class of nodes?  I'd like to nuke all gas cloud nodes.  I imported from wowhead and promptly discovered that wowhead is a little confused (I swear there's a private server with an extra netherstorm island).
22:41.06ArrowmasterClassrank1 of each
22:41.10ArrowmasterClasslike the rest of them
22:41.33Xinhuandash: edit the SV file, or there's some function in GM that can do it as well
22:41.36charonwhen does MEETINGSTONE_CHANGED fire? strange event
22:41.42Xinhuanbut its not exposed in the GUI
22:41.56ArrowmasterClassok class is over onto next one
22:41.58Dashkalkk, so it's at least possible *proceeds to dig into both files*
22:42.10Xinhuanumm Arrowmaster, does the Improved version matter?
22:42.18Xinhuani.e a 3rd entry
22:42.18DashkalCleaning up the mining nodes was enough, I'd rather not go do that for gas as well.
22:42.23ArrowmasterClassno
22:42.25DashkalMight as well just start blank
22:42.31ArrowmasterClassonly put in the 2 numbers i said
22:42.38Xinhuanwhy not? just curious
22:42.38ArrowmasterClassand gtg
22:42.44ArrowmasterClassjust do it
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22:43.39charoni think it only checks for the name
22:43.52charonthe spellID stuff is only in there to avoid localization issues
22:43.52VenaraXinhuan: just fixed the spell and tried ingame, it works now
22:44.04charonand the buff names never say if the buff is improved
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22:44.50Xinhuanyour fix isn't really complete
22:44.52CIA-3903xinhuan * r69937 10XRS/XRS.lua:
22:44.52CIA-39XRS:
22:44.52CIA-39- Fix AI and PW:Fortitude blunder. Also trim return values down to 1 value for the last spell entry in the buffTable.
22:44.52CIA-39~slap ackis
22:44.53purlACTION slaps ackis, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
22:44.59NeoTronI wonder wtf the armory lite guy likes such super low contrast between fg and bg
22:45.08NeoTronlight grey on white, dark grey on black
22:45.19NeoTronhow about dark gray on white and light gray on black instead
22:45.21ZhinjioBuh
22:45.29Xinhuanackis conveniently forgot the last entry in a table needs () around it to trim return values from GetSpellInfo() down to 1 value
22:45.40Venara:/
22:45.48CIA-3903hyperactiveChipmunk * r69938 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/ (embeds.xml libs/):
22:45.48CIA-39Cartographer_ExtractGas:
22:45.48CIA-39- fixed embeds.xml
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22:46.20VenaraXinhuan: you're up to fixing these symbol issues as well? ;D
22:46.36Zhinjioomg!
22:47.02ZhinjiohaChipmunk hasn't been around in awhile.
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22:48.37CIA-3903durcyn 072.4 * r69939 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: reorder some functions so misses actually register, duh
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22:50.59CIA-3903xinhuan * r69940 10XRS/ (XRS.lua XRS_BuffClass.lua):
22:50.59CIA-39XRS:
22:50.59CIA-39- Fix more GetSpellInfo() issues with the lack of () around it to trim values down to 1 return value at the end of table creation as the last item.
22:51.27Hotphoenixis there a command to open the gm ticket window?
22:51.55Nandiniit's protected i believe
22:52.13Xinhuanbtw Dashkal
22:52.15Xinhuanthe command is
22:52.15Hotphoenixso the only way is via the micromenu?
22:52.27Xinhuan/run GatherMate:ClearDB("Extract Gas")
22:52.32DashkalXinhuan: Thank you :)
22:53.02CIA-3903starinnia * r69941 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: Add alignment and profile callbacks
22:53.27CIA-3903starinnia * r69942 10StatBlocks_Reagents/StatBlocks_Reagents.lua: StatBlocks_Reagents: Add alignment and profile callbacks
22:53.28VenaraXinhuan: http://epochenkampf.lima-city.de/dreamroot/xrs1.jpg maybe you want to look into that one as well? :> custom buff symbols are not show :(
22:53.44Xinhuanumm, i don't use XRS
22:54.02Venarabut you know how to fix it :>
22:54.10Xinhuanasking me to fix something in an addon i don't use is pretty difficult!
22:54.11CIA-3903durcyn 072.4 * r69943 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: track damage shields too
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22:54.31ZhinjioXinhuan: heya.
22:54.47Venarawell i got faith in you :D
22:54.52CIA-3903paene * r69944 10Cryolysis2/core/privates.lua:
22:54.52CIA-39Cryolysis2:
22:54.53CIA-39- Fixed food/water buttons not detecting manna biscuits
22:56.03Arrowmaster`nice Xinhuan
22:56.09Arrowmaster`thanks for doing that while im in class
22:56.50Arrowmaster`cant say on during this class once it starts so im just using my laggy irssi via ssh
22:57.43Venarabtw Arrowmaster, the report thing works fine now
22:57.58Arrowmaster`i saw
22:58.00Venarajust the bug with the symbols of the custom buffs remaining
22:58.10Arrowmaster`thats hardcoded
22:58.44Venarawhat does that mean in "I'm not into the lua stuff" english?
22:59.13Arrowmaster`lot more than a simple fix
22:59.36Venaraah okay, well anyways, thx a lot to you and Xin for fixing those other things so quickly :D
22:59.50CIA-3903xinhuan * r69945 10GatherMate/GatherMate.lua:
22:59.50CIA-39GatherMate: Add a more descriptive error message in a function that isn't
22:59.50CIA-39actually used anywhere in any addon or module yet, but been around forever. This
22:59.50CIA-39function is GatherMate:ClearDB(dbx), used to clear a selected database of all
22:59.50CIA-39nodes.
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23:00.02Arrowmaster`our MT/raidleader was yelling at me to get somebody to fix it
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23:00.51Arrowmaster`i should leave now
23:00.53CIA-3903sayclub * r69946 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: - koKR Update
23:00.59Arrowmaster`wtf
23:01.02CIA-3903adirelle * r69947 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: Parrot: added warnings for missing translation to replace the "string required, got nil"-like errors.
23:01.07Arrowmaster`somebody slap sayclub
23:01.10Arrowmaster`ok out
23:01.10hypetechhaha
23:01.21Xinhuanyou realize there ARE still addons that use babblespell ;p
23:01.28Xinhuanthat haven't been updated not to use it yet
23:02.17CIA-3903sayclub * r69948 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/koKR.lua:
23:02.17CIA-39LibBabble-Spell-3.0
23:02.17CIA-39- koKR Update
23:02.25benWhat does babble do
23:02.50hypetechbabbles
23:02.51Starinniatranslation stuff
23:03.14chipersweet.  kevin conroy is voicing batman again for the new animated movie
23:03.56ReSaIs there another library that's used other than the babble one for translations?
23:04.03CIA-3903funkydude * r69949 10BasicComboPoints/BasicComboPoints.lua: BasicComboPoints: add slash /bcp & /basiccombopoints
23:04.37StarinniaAceLocale is used for most localization translations
23:04.48Starinniababble is like set lists of frequently used translations
23:05.10Paenebabble-spell is pointless now
23:05.22Starinniayeah, but some addons haven't updated yet
23:05.26Paeneyeah
23:05.28Starinniaso its still kinda needed
23:05.32Paeneit's a pain
23:05.40Paenejust switched my code over from it
23:07.16ReSahm.. was wondering because i just updated Fubar_RecZone for myself for 2.4 since it hasn't been updated since dec, but its using Babble-Zone..  How much trouble is it to switch over to AceLocale?
23:07.39Xinhuantroublesome enough that nobody would bother
23:07.45ReSalol.. gotcha :)
23:08.04Arrowmaster`LibBabble-Zone-3.0 is still in use
23:08.06Xinhuanyou can think of Babble-blah as specialized versions of AceLocale
23:08.28Zhinjioare any of you folks involved with technical recruiting? I'd like some feedback on a recent resume.
23:08.33Xinhuanaimed at providing commonly translated stuff, such as zone names, factions, classes, etc
23:09.28Starinniai need more time to program, damn term papers keep getting in my way
23:09.58Paenethere's no GetZoneInfo() is there?
23:11.11FritzHey Arrow, did  you look into that bug with Quartz?
23:12.13Paenewowwiki hates Opera
23:12.15Arrowmaster`no clue how to fix it, in class right now
23:12.55Arrowmaster`shouldnt even be on irc
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23:15.37hypetecherm. all my spellbook icons are missing with skinner today >.>
23:16.28EvilJohnconfirmed that defect
23:16.30EvilJohnsame here
23:16.37Arrowmaster`blame jncl
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23:20.35selckin(OT) anyone have a link to and old wow song going like 'healthbars are all i see tonight' etc :\
23:21.12exor674lol, I see "OT" and think "Offtank"
23:21.18CIA-3903funkydude * r69950 10StatBlocks_Omen/StatBlocks_Omen.lua: StatBlocks_Omen: Don't open the config/omen frame when were dragging the block around
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23:21.58durcynyou're missing the point..  we've got an RPer in here, somebody fetch a noose.
23:24.17CIA-3903funkydude * r69951 10StatBlocks_Recount/StatBlocks_Recount.lua: StatBlocks_Recount: Don't open the config/frame when we're dragging the block
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23:24.36selckinah man i so wanna find that song, it was great :(
23:25.44CIA-3903funkydude * r69952 10StatBlocks_DPS/StatBlocks_DPS.lua: StatBlocks_DPS: Don't reset DPS if we're dragging the block
23:25.52ckknightavast, selckin, yer booty or yer life
23:28.25Zhinjiowe're not quite up to talk like a pirate day.
23:28.33Zhinjionot that I don't approve of talking like a pirate on any day, mind you.
23:28.49Starinniaheh, today is tax panic day anyways
23:28.51Starinniadamn IRS
23:29.33Starinniai should move to an island somewhere, become the government :P
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23:30.33CIA-3903ackis * r69953 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua:
23:30.34CIA-39AckisRecipeList:
23:30.34CIA-39- Typo fix
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23:31.55VenaraAckis: http://epochenkampf.lima-city.de/dreamroot/xrs1.jpg Arrowmaster told me to slap you for that one :P (missing icons for custom buffs)
23:32.34Ackisi thought i had the blessings in there?
23:32.50sacarascEnhancer is broken for me ;(
23:32.55Venarawell, the minor ones, yeah, but the greater blessings are missing
23:32.56Ackisthe default icon was already in the code beforei touched it lol it made me laugh
23:33.28Ackisehh sorry /fail
23:34.12Funkeh`Ackis, Arrowmaster was hunting you earlier
23:34.21AckisI know
23:34.30Funkeh`WHAT!?
23:34.32AckisI saw the commit log
23:34.37Funkeh`lol
23:35.15AckisI guess he didn't think hearts were fun! lol
23:35.26Venaralol ^^
23:35.37Ackisbut it really was just a brain fart on my behalf
23:36.04Venarai'd really appreciate it if you put those icons in there :>
23:36.28Xinhuan~slap Ackis
23:36.28purlACTION slaps Ackis, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
23:38.33Funkeh`Starinnia, ping
23:38.50StarinniaFunkeh`: pong
23:39.04Ackishides
23:39.11AckisVenara I think Xinhuan did it
23:39.33Funkeh`Starinnia, you should add an icon in the ammo block, do a check if it's a warlock in onenable to use a shard icon, otherwise get the icon from the ammo slot or somthing
23:39.52VenaraMhh, you think so? the commit log indicates it was you :>
23:40.06Funkeh`Ackis, bad boy
23:40.23StarinniaFunkeh`, I plan to, hope to add it tonight
23:40.24Ackisno no, I think he fixed it
23:40.27Viper0000is holofriends the only viable 50+ friends mod
23:40.31Funkeh`Starinnia, awesome
23:40.32Viper0000or is ther eanything better>?
23:40.44Ixnorpcan someone point me in the direction of the DogTag that I want?  [[HasAura("Brilliant Mana Oil") | HasAura("Superior Mana Oil")] ? "Oil":Green ! "Oil":Red]  does not do what I want though the intent should be obvious.
23:41.33Venaramhh, i'm gonna test it later, just downloaded the new version
23:41.37IxnorpI did a quick browse of the DogTag help and didnt come up with anything. :S
23:42.21Ackisfyi rocket mount makes a cool sound when you fly on it
23:44.19TularisIxnorp: I believe Mana Oils are weapon enchants, no? So they won't show up in HasAura, since that (afaik) checks only buffs/debuffs
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23:44.37TularisI might be mistaken though
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23:45.30mazzyhum
23:45.39mazzythe wiki page has wrong irc server
23:45.45IxnorpTularis: yes, they are weapon enchants.   I just dont know how to 'read' a weapon enchant with DogTags
23:45.51mazzy#wowace IRC channel on freenode.net
23:45.55mazzyW@#R@
23:45.59Ixnorpand I want to remind myself to reapply weapon oil when it expores
23:46.02Ixnorp*expires
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23:47.07mazzyanyways
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23:47.17mazzyeveryone else is getting lua errors on load eh?
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23:48.18luxushello :D
23:50.57TularisIxnorp: I don't think dogtags (of version 3.0) even scan the weaponenchant
23:51.22TularisI just did a quick grep of the code, and it doesn't mention weapon or enchant anywhere. Nor is the function GetWeaponEnchantInfo() used anywhere
23:52.10TularisI'm afraid you'll have to slap ckknight around a bit and tell him to add it :)
23:52.13Ironhandis there a DogTag sequence that will return the threat lead (either in absolute threat or %) I have over the 2nd on the threat list, if I'm the current aggro holder?
23:52.25ckknightTularis: you add it
23:52.42PrimerInterface\FrameXML\PVPFrame.lua:253: attempt to index field 'CharacterFrame' (a nil value)
23:52.47ckknightIronhand: no, but sounds cool, add it to the jira.
23:52.49Primerisn't that inside of WoW's own code?
23:52.52CIA-3903funkydude * r69954 10StatBlocks/ (Locales/enUS.lua StatBlocks.lua): StatBlocks: Print in chat informing users of the ability to resize blocks with the mouse scroll when /sb is typed
23:53.04PrimerI get that every time I pull up my pvp tab
23:53.55Tularisckknight: I don't need it, but I might check it out and see if I could patch it in somehow. Currently the dogtag code is a big "wtf" to me :P
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23:54.09ckknightTularis: just check the Categories part
23:54.25Ironhandckknight: ok, will do
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23:57.38CIA-3903aviana * r69955 10Numen/ (Numen.toc embeds.xml):
23:57.38CIA-39Numen:
23:57.38CIA-39- Removed unneeded stuff
23:59.08hypetechis there any way to make demon horizontal instead of vertical?

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