| 00:00.06 | Xinhuan | mana tide totems do have threat, when doing RoS, the bosses always targets mana tide totem first before a tank hits it ;p |
| 00:00.09 | charon | i believe ThreatClassModuleCore.lua:546 will add them to the global threat list when it gets the SPELL_SUMMON event? |
| 00:00.23 | Antiarc | It may, yes. |
| 00:00.24 | charon | Xinhuan: there's no bloody way _I_ can get threat on a _friendly_ shaman's totems |
| 00:00.28 | Antiarc | If they have those flags |
| 00:00.28 | Nandini | yes, but players should not have AOE threat against their raid's totems |
| 00:00.36 | charon | they do, for the SUMMON event |
| 00:00.42 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 00:00.43 | charon | so should i blacklist them? |
| 00:00.52 | Antiarc | No, I don't think so. |
| 00:00.56 | charon | hmmm. |
| 00:01.01 | Antiarc | I think that we should just not handle the SUMMON event |
| 00:01.12 | charon | or that |
| 00:01.48 | Gnarfoz | why not blacklist them? Threat is for player threat, after all, and players can't have threat against totems? |
| 00:01.50 | charon | also, either i'm selectively blind (well, i probably am anyways) or this has only ever triggered for mana spring+tide, even though the other totems seem to have the same flags. dunno. |
| 00:01.57 | Nandini | are there any important "adds" that actually get summoned and have a SPELL_SUMMON event attached? |
| 00:02.02 | dodga | Bleach 167 \o/ |
| 00:02.08 | Xinhuan | yes, a lot? |
| 00:02.25 | charon | probably we should not enter the target of a SUMMON into the threat tables unless the source is an enemy? |
| 00:02.32 | charon | (does that sound general and correct?) |
| 00:02.45 | Xinhuan | tidewalker puts down totems, illidan p2 is probably summoned fire elementals? |
| 00:02.55 | Nandini | yes, but if you are not there for the summon event, you might not know that it was "friendly" |
| 00:02.59 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: Because the blacklist is for dealing with specific mobs. In this case, we're erroneously catching an entire class of mobs |
| 00:03.03 | Xinhuan | imps in that boss before aran |
| 00:03.06 | Gnarfoz | morogrim tidewalker puts down totems? Oo since when |
| 00:03.08 | Antiarc | We can just ignore the summon event altogether |
| 00:03.14 | Antiarc | Just return if it's that event |
| 00:03.16 | Xinhuan | the shaman puts down spitfire totems |
| 00:03.21 | Antiarc | Because that doesn't have any effect on threat tables |
| 00:03.21 | Gnarfoz | that's karathress |
| 00:03.22 | Ellipsis | maulgar felhunters |
| 00:03.27 | Xinhuan | oh yeah mixed up names |
| 00:03.32 | Gnarfoz | heh nm |
| 00:03.40 | Antiarc | Their first offensive action will a) have the right flags, and b) enter them into the table. |
| 00:03.45 | Gnarfoz | that reminds me... WTB MOAR Battlestar! :| |
| 00:03.48 | Viper0000 | wtb a way to have more than 50friends |
| 00:03.56 | Chaud | srsly |
| 00:03.58 | Xinhuan | and possibly when leotheras splits into 2, i think that's a summon as well |
| 00:03.59 | Nandini | Antiarc: good point, that should keep "friendly" totems out |
| 00:04.03 | Ellipsis | stop being so dang popular |
| 00:04.14 | Ellipsis | you guys make me jealous with your "waah waah not enough friends list spots" |
| 00:04.17 | Chaud | 50 isn't enough =\ |
| 00:04.35 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: huh? if you're popular, someone else needs more friend list spots, not you? :> |
| 00:04.37 | Viper0000 | 50 is so low, lmao |
| 00:04.39 | Antiarc | Join a guild! |
| 00:04.42 | Antiarc | 500 friends! |
| 00:04.53 | Gnarfoz | more, even, you just can't see who it is! :D |
| 00:04.54 | Chaud | all my friends / alts are in different guilds |
| 00:04.57 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: popular people have lots of friends... |
| 00:05.00 | Xinhuan | i don't use friends list on friends i share a private channel with ;p |
| 00:05.05 | Viper0000 | especially when you've been around since server launch and know so many ppl + there alts |
| 00:05.12 | CIA-39 | 03Shot * r70135 10DoIKnowYou/ (DoIKnowYou.lua DoIKnowYou.toc): |
| 00:05.12 | CIA-39 | DoIKnowYou: |
| 00:05.12 | CIA-39 | - Quick fix for a couple of things I forgot to save before last commit. |
| 00:05.17 | Chaud | and good tanks/healers/dps for heroics =\ |
| 00:05.37 | charon | Antiarc: want me to change that, or do it yourself? |
| 00:06.00 | Viper0000 | im LF'ing ppl to do heroic mech right now >.< |
| 00:06.05 | Viper0000 | if your on spinebreaker hit mercurius up |
| 00:06.06 | Xinhuan | i think you should research more into it first charon |
| 00:06.15 | Xinhuan | do like a week of /combatlog parses |
| 00:06.17 | charon | Xinhuan: huh? |
| 00:06.19 | Xinhuan | and see what it affects |
| 00:06.40 | charon | i should be able to tell you that in a few seconds :P |
| 00:06.42 | Antiarc | I'm doing it, just testing |
| 00:06.57 | Antiarc | Xinhuan: Summons won't affect anything, since they're inherently threatless |
| 00:07.37 | Xinhuan | summons allow you to add them into the threat table directly before you need to detect their first combat event |
| 00:07.50 | Xinhuan | example, aran's 4 elementals are summons? |
| 00:07.53 | Ellipsis | but if they aren't doing anything why does their threat matter |
| 00:08.02 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 00:08.03 | Antiarc | But we don't need their IDs before they take some action |
| 00:08.06 | Antiarc | At which point we have their ID. |
| 00:08.40 | Nandini | sometimes you have still been gaining threat on them, whether they have taken action or not yet |
| 00:08.54 | Xinhuan | possibly, just saying should probably do some research and iterate thru every boss that such a change could affect thru t4-t6 |
| 00:08.59 | Ellipsis | but in what case does something sit there and let you build threat on it without doing *anything* |
| 00:09.08 | Ellipsis | for long enough that that threat becomes significant |
| 00:09.10 | *** part/#wowace `Zypher (n=user_01@adsl-69-109-126-244.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 00:09.43 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r70136 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: Threat-2.0: Blacklist SPELL_SUMMON from creating entries in the enemies table. |
| 00:09.55 | Xinhuan | can't think of one... yet :D |
| 00:09.59 | Antiarc | I really can't think of any cases where it would be a problem |
| 00:10.01 | Ellipsis | you work on that then |
| 00:10.02 | Nandini | the threat becomes significant when your threat is near someone else's threat, and the difference will forever be skewed by lack of recording "pre-engagement" threat |
| 00:10.05 | Ellipsis | pets Xinhuan |
| 00:10.16 | charon | Xinhuan: if it _does_ sit there and do nothing, splitting healing (global) threat across it is wrong anyway |
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| 00:10.37 | Nandini | so it would only be significant for players who hover near the edge of pulling aggro |
| 00:10.50 | Dashkal | Just thinking... the moment shade summons the elementals they're in combat and should be picking up healing aggro? |
| 00:10.54 | Xinhuan | might possibly depend on whether the target is sitting there and do nothing by a script |
| 00:11.04 | Ellipsis | pulling aggro on summoned adds (which tend not to live that long to begin with) that sit there waiting for you to kill them |
| 00:11.13 | charon | heh |
| 00:11.29 | Ellipsis | Xinhuan: if that's the case, aren't they usually unattackable / ignoring threat generation? |
| 00:11.34 | charon | some grepping indicates that this change will also ignore a crapload of stuff that shouldn't be thete in the first place |
| 00:11.36 | Xinhuan | you have a point |
| 00:11.40 | charon | SPELL_SUMMON,0xF130004630001241,"Archimonde",0x10a48,0xF1300046B80012A1,"Doomfire Targeting",0xa28,31903,"Doomfire Strike",0x4 |
| 00:11.46 | charon | SPELL_SUMMON,0xF130004630001241,"Archimonde",0x10a48,0xF1300046AF001319,"Doomfire",0xa28,31903,"Doomfire Strike",0x4 |
| 00:11.58 | charon | Xinhuan: go grab aggro off doomfire by global threat ;) |
| 00:12.02 | Ellipsis | lulz |
| 00:12.05 | Nandini | we don't know that they're ignoring threat generation, do we? |
| 00:12.18 | Ellipsis | Nandini: it can be assumed from their behavior... |
| 00:12.22 | charon | jaina's water eles and thrall's dire wolf also has that kind of event |
| 00:12.22 | Antiarc | Generally if something is CC'd or unattackable it ignores threat. |
| 00:12.26 | Arrowmaster | they are random |
| 00:12.36 | charon | SPELL_SUMMON,0xF1300059600000EB,"Shadowmoon Champion",0x800a48,0xF130005B490006AA,"Whirling Blade",0xa28,41053,"Whirling Blade",0x1 |
| 00:12.43 | Ellipsis | if a summoned mob is sitting there waiting for its script to kick in and put it into combat, it's not going to run in and eat the healer who's been topping people off |
| 00:13.01 | charon | note how they _all_ have those weird neutral flags |
| 00:13.16 | Arrowmaster | charon: do you have a us account? |
| 00:13.21 | Xinhuan | 4/10 20:49:54.729 SPELL_SUMMON,0xF1300045E9000ED9,"Crypt Fiend",0xa48,0xF13000462F000EDF,"Crypt Scarab",0xa28,31591,"Crypt Scarabs",0x1 |
| 00:13.22 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:13.26 | charon | Arrowmaster: no, antonidas EU |
| 00:13.28 | Xinhuan | but i guess that's blacklisted already |
| 00:13.31 | Funkeh` | Shadowed, it's fully functional |
| 00:13.40 | Shadowed | nice |
| 00:13.41 | Funkeh` | just need someone to spam so I can test the actual reporting |
| 00:13.43 | Shadowed | lol |
| 00:13.45 | charon | Arrowmaster: why? :) |
| 00:13.46 | Shadowed | join Trade |
| 00:13.48 | Shadowed | wait 30 seconds |
| 00:14.01 | Ellipsis | Funkeh`: you should get on my server, I get a whisper every 5mins or so on either faction |
| 00:14.07 | Arrowmaster | charon: somebody should probably report the flags all being the same |
| 00:14.08 | charon | also a "huh": 0xF130005B530005FF,"Black Temple - Houndmaster Flare Dummy",0xa28 |
| 00:14.10 | Funkeh` | the addon is 26 line slong |
| 00:14.13 | Funkeh` | :D |
| 00:14.19 | Ellipsis | wants a 26 line slong |
| 00:14.20 | Ellipsis | oh wait |
| 00:14.22 | Ellipsis | read that wrong |
| 00:14.29 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 00:14.37 | Nandini | if you ever stand around the dark portal on the outland side, many of the mobs in the fray there cast spells which include things such as "pulse for a nearby random target i have not engaged and add 5000 hate" |
| 00:14.39 | Xinhuan | 4/10 22:11:53.885 SPELL_SUMMON,0xF130005985003006,"Illidan Stormrage",0xa48,0xF130005B4F00313C,"Shadow Demon",0xa28,41117,"Summon Shadow Demons",0x20 |
| 00:14.39 | charon | Arrowmaster: hm. slouken is the guy who does that stuff right? then perhaps i'll mark this as SEP and let you do it? ;) |
| 00:14.41 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 00:15.01 | Xinhuan | wanna black list that Antiarc? |
| 00:15.02 | Arrowmaster | nah well make Xinhuan do it |
| 00:15.09 | Xinhuan | shadow demons have no threat to speak of ;p |
| 00:15.10 | Ellipsis | Nandini: I'll keep that in mind next time I'm raiding the dark portal |
| 00:15.30 | Nandini | i was just trying to think of weird scripted threat scenarios and that came to mind |
| 00:15.32 | Antiarc | [23375] = true,-- Shadow Demon (Illidan encounter) |
| 00:15.34 | Antiarc | Already in :P |
| 00:15.37 | Xinhuan | 4/10 22:15:18.229 SPELL_SUMMON,0xF130005985003006,"Illidan Stormrage",0x10a48,0xF130005B2800318F,"Flame Crash",0xa28,40832,"Flame Crash",0x4 |
| 00:15.41 | Xinhuan | wow flame crash is a summon too? |
| 00:15.42 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:15.56 | Arrowmaster | blaze too i think |
| 00:16.02 | Ellipsis | Nandini: yeah, but I'm not sure that really counts as a relevant one :P |
| 00:16.26 | Antiarc | http://codeclimber.blogspot.com/2008/04/all-i-need-is-programmer.html |
| 00:16.30 | Xinhuan | i know kalecgos portals are created by SPELL_CREATE though ;p |
| 00:16.58 | Funkeh` | and now it's 11 lines |
| 00:17.06 | Funkeh` | just ripped all the spamsentry triggers |
| 00:17.17 | Funkeh` | 111* |
| 00:17.20 | Nandini | true, not relevant, was just saying that plenty of weird things are possible with AI scripting |
| 00:17.29 | grennon | so would adding bloodlust/heroism to the oRA cooldown monitor be something long overlooked and a good default or be something that should be handled in an option? |
| 00:17.56 | Jaxon | grennon: I think something like is planned for oRA3? |
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| 00:19.09 | Nandini | wow one of the last addons i had using babble-2.2 just updated to not use it, and the ones that remain don't specify it properly as a dependency, and jWU uninstalled it :) |
| 00:19.33 | Nandini | that makes me happy and angry at the same time :) |
| 00:20.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:20.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 00:20.23 | Arrowmaster | grennon: the cooldown monitor in oRA2 will never get anything added to it |
| 00:20.28 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r70137 10/branches/LibBars-1.0/ (LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua TestAddon/FlashFrames.lua): LibBars-1.0: Change the bar prototype to be (name, text, val, maxval). Add timeleft callbacks. Update test addon. |
| 00:20.32 | Shot | Somewhere along the line of things I lost Babble-Zone-3.0, Glory (?, some part of prat) complains every time i log in. I just can't be bothered fixing it. |
| 00:20.57 | Nandini | Shot: Prat SeverNames module requires Glory |
| 00:21.02 | Nandini | ServerNames, even |
| 00:21.08 | Shot | meh |
| 00:21.14 | Shot | haven't been in a BG for weeks |
| 00:21.18 | Nandini | (although SeverNames might be cool too... chop them off!) |
| 00:21.24 | charon | well, i should go to bed... thanks Antiarc for fixing, and thanks * for the ideas :) |
| 00:21.35 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70138 10BadBoy/ (. BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: Initial import, a minimal way to block and report spammers |
| 00:21.36 | charon | and Xinhuan: post on US forums about the 0xa28 bug please :P |
| 00:21.41 | grennon | Arrowmaster: whats the rationale? |
| 00:21.45 | Shot | i'm off to bed too I think, commited v1.0 of my addon tonight :) |
| 00:21.51 | Xinhuan | what, for kalecgos? |
| 00:21.53 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc 07TestAddon * r70139 10LibBars-1.0/FlashFrames.lua: LibBars-1.0: Make the buffs bit in the test addon use :NewBar rather than :GetBar, :SetTimer |
| 00:22.04 | Zhinjio | Spot: use Chatter instead of Prat |
| 00:22.06 | Xinhuan | i don't think i will |
| 00:22.07 | Zhinjio | er, Shot. |
| 00:22.09 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 00:22.15 | Xinhuan | the log is incomplete in the first place for dmg done |
| 00:22.18 | Chaud | nice name on the spam addon |
| 00:22.30 | Nandini | nice, when i manually install Babble-2.2, jWU automatically adds it to the libraries whiteliest, i really like this jWU magic :) |
| 00:22.37 | Funkeh` | Shadowed, http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BadBoy/BadBoy.lua wotcha think |
| 00:22.47 | Shadowed | I think I know where to buy gold |
| 00:22.47 | charon | Xinhuan: eh? how is this limited to kalecgos? |
| 00:22.51 | Arrowmaster | grennon: oRA2 is designed to work with CTraid, even if nobody uses CTraid anymore |
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| 00:22.59 | Xinhuan | not sure what you are referring to charon |
| 00:23.03 | grennon | Arrowmaster: ohhhhhh |
| 00:23.10 | Chaud | CT AID. |
| 00:23.11 | Shadowed | Isn't it rather pointless to replace the message saying you blocked spam? |
| 00:23.16 | Shadowed | you're replacing one message with another |
| 00:23.24 | grennon | Arrowmaster: i heard those guys died huffing freon |
| 00:23.30 | Funkeh` | dunno |
| 00:23.35 | Funkeh` | should I remove it? |
| 00:23.45 | Xinhuan | the only time i brought up a 0xa28 bug was about kalecgos, when you go between realms, the other realm's boss is neutral flagged to you |
| 00:23.46 | charon | Xinhuan: Arrowmaster suggested that "somebody" should report on the US forums about the fact that all dest fields of a SUMMON have 0xa28 as flags, regardless of their actual status |
| 00:23.50 | Antiarc | Have it the first time spam is blocked per session |
| 00:23.52 | Antiarc | Then not anymore |
| 00:23.57 | Dashkal | if oRA2 is feature-locked, is there any plan for an oRA3? |
| 00:23.59 | Ellipsis | what ever happened to the ora replacement that gave up backwards compatibility in exchange for not sucking? |
| 00:24.13 | Arrowmaster | oRA3 is already in development |
| 00:24.47 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, think that would just confuse people |
| 00:24.51 | Dashkal | actively or put on hold in favour of more interesting projects? |
| 00:24.52 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster, will ora3 drop it's ct support? |
| 00:24.56 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:25.01 | Funkeh` | the thing is I don't want people to shit themselves when they suddenly see a static popup |
| 00:25.23 | Yssaril | bah is that a yes to both questions |
| 00:25.24 | Jaxon | I immediately deficate when I get any lua error, Bugsack saved me a lot of mess. |
| 00:25.48 | dodga | Will oRA3 be better than cake and pie TOGETHER? |
| 00:25.56 | Chaud | poopsock > bugsack |
| 00:25.56 | Funkeh` | fuck it Ill remove it |
| 00:26.11 | Shadowed | lol |
| 00:26.11 | Nandini | Jaxon: I imagine my stock in Depends undergarments just went down, damn you for installing that! |
| 00:26.28 | Jaxon | Nandini: don't blame me, blame the wonderful Bugsack developers. |
| 00:26.44 | *** join/#wowace Deloralala (n=iwill@p5DC0F7C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:27.08 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (n=bla@pD957C7E3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:27.25 | *** join/#wowace ben___ (n=ben@dslb-088-066-016-141.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:27.27 | Ellipsis | bugsack touched me in ways that made me cry |
| 00:27.38 | dodga | In a good way? |
| 00:27.41 | Funkeh` | Ellipsis, orly |
| 00:27.45 | Chaud | can you show me on the doll |
| 00:27.54 | Zhinjio | laughs |
| 00:28.09 | Zhinjio | you guys are awesome. |
| 00:28.20 | Zhinjio | if it wasn't in such poor taste, I'd be laughing even harder. |
| 00:29.06 | Ellipsis | well |
| 00:29.08 | Ellipsis | at first it felt good |
| 00:29.10 | Ellipsis | then I got scared |
| 00:29.25 | Ellipsis | I ran away and found a grown-up who told me to uninstall it |
| 00:29.50 | Ellipsis | I felt better after that :( |
| 00:30.14 | Gnarfoz | and then you installed !Swatter |
| 00:30.15 | hypetech | anybody know how to make ora2's ready check only check groups 1-5? |
| 00:30.28 | Ellipsis | I just use !buggrabber |
| 00:30.36 | Ellipsis | I didn't want to install ace2 just for the gui |
| 00:31.08 | JoshBorke | Ellipsis: by grown up you mean ckknight? |
| 00:31.21 | Ellipsis | er, no |
| 00:31.35 | JoshBorke | just checking |
| 00:31.48 | CIA-39 | 03apoco 07v2 * r70140 10RBM/RBM/ (4 files in 2 dirs): RBM v2: Bug Fixes. |
| 00:32.42 | Zhinjio | I imagine I'm probably older than most of you, for some reason. |
| 00:32.47 | Zhinjio | but that might jsut be in my head. |
| 00:33.02 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70141 10BadBoy/ (. BadBoy.lua): |
| 00:33.02 | CIA-39 | BadBoy: |
| 00:33.02 | CIA-39 | - svn template |
| 00:33.02 | CIA-39 | - support multi-message spam with a GetTime() call |
| 00:33.02 | CIA-39 | - credits for the spam list |
| 00:33.31 | durcyn | why would you use bugsack when there's oShit |
| 00:33.44 | Ellipsis | BECAUSE ITS NOT ON WAU DUH |
| 00:33.54 | durcyn | git clone |
| 00:33.58 | Chaud | Ellipsis PUT POOPSOCK ON WAU PL0X |
| 00:34.03 | JoshBorke | durcyn: because i want a copy paste gui |
| 00:34.09 | JoshBorke | durcyn: then again, i use swatter :_D |
| 00:34.15 | Funkeh` | only nubs need error stacks |
| 00:34.19 | durcyn | JoshBorke: chatter frame copy imo |
| 00:34.19 | rubik | hmm.. what's oShit? |
| 00:34.27 | JoshBorke | Zhinjio: i'm 24 (recently), i hope to think i fit into the norm |
| 00:34.34 | JoshBorke | durcyn: well your opinion is WRONG |
| 00:34.34 | Funkeh` | shit in an O ring |
| 00:34.41 | rubik | ): |
| 00:34.44 | Dashkal | Stacktraces are easymode. Real programmers bounce cosmic rays off their chips? |
| 00:34.59 | Zhinjio | <- 38 |
| 00:35.00 | Funkeh` | wtf? |
| 00:35.10 | Chaud | an addon that posts errors to chatframe1 wut |
| 00:35.16 | Ellipsis | the funny thing is, I haven't had to paste stack traces to anyone lately, so I'm not missing bugsack |
| 00:35.46 | Arrowmaster | C-x M-c M-butterfly |
| 00:35.57 | JoshBorke | wtf is a butterfly? |
| 00:36.05 | Zhinjio | Its frightening to think that I've been doing stuff with computers longer than some of you have been alive. |
| 00:36.09 | dodga | xkcd > * |
| 00:36.10 | Arrowmaster | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 00:36.11 | durcyn | JoshBorke: jerk =( |
| 00:36.12 | Chaud | something that escaped the poopsock |
| 00:36.16 | Ellipsis | I have a butterfly key...then again, I have a hello kitty keyboard, so |
| 00:36.20 | Dashkal | hands dodga a cookie |
| 00:36.25 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 00:36.28 | dodga | \o/ |
| 00:36.29 | Arrowmaster | pics |
| 00:36.39 | Arrowmaster | demand pics |
| 00:36.39 | Ellipsis | yeah, no, I have a regular old G15 |
| 00:36.39 | Funkeh` | making minimal addons suck |
| 00:36.42 | dodga | Ellipsis: That is wrong in so many ways |
| 00:36.43 | Funkeh` | finished after 2 commits |
| 00:36.45 | Funkeh` | what the hell |
| 00:36.48 | Ellipsis | I should paint it pink and put hello kitty stickers on it |
| 00:36.50 | Funkeh` | I need to make a bloated adon |
| 00:36.55 | Funkeh` | just to make lots of commits |
| 00:37.01 | Ellipsis | commit whore moar |
| 00:37.05 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: you maintain bigwigs, stfu |
| 00:37.07 | dodga | Funkeh`: Uh, name it "KTM" or "RDX" :o |
| 00:37.14 | Chaud | http://bp1.blogger.com/_99sjihAFeCw/R1OD6mF-J0I/AAAAAAAAAaA/wvJMYzlfmXo/s1600-R/DSC01334.JPG |
| 00:37.33 | Zhinjio | Funkeh`: can you please make it track threat for anyone who spams me and report that to CTRaid? |
| 00:37.41 | Zhinjio | ahem. |
| 00:37.55 | *** join/#wowace vithos (n=vithos@unaffiliated/vithos) |
| 00:38.01 | Ellipsis | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/trueneutral/Blog/31tycho2.jpg |
| 00:38.04 | Ellipsis | best casemod evar |
| 00:38.04 | Chaud | http://www.savingadvice.com/images/blog/hellokittykeyboard.jpg IMO |
| 00:39.10 | Zhinjio | thats all well and good. I start to get a bit freaked when you see like... hello kitty dildoes and whatnot. |
| 00:39.14 | Zhinjio | thats just not right. |
| 00:39.28 | Ellipsis | http://www.exonome.com/fj/phkl/ |
| 00:39.31 | Ellipsis | ^win |
| 00:39.32 | dodga | There's a market for everything. |
| 00:40.05 | Gngsk | Ellipsis, is that a female w/cancer or some deranged dude? |
| 00:40.31 | Ellipsis | the world may never know |
| 00:40.42 | Ellipsis | it's tycho from penny arcade |
| 00:40.57 | Gngsk | http://www.geekologie.com/2008/02/the_hello_kitty_ar15_is_just_s.php |
| 00:42.12 | Dashkal | I think my brain just exploded |
| 00:42.16 | Ellipsis | :d |
| 00:42.44 | Zhinjio | <3 tycho |
| 00:42.51 | Dashkal | I thought before the hello kitty vibe did it, but no, no it didn't. |
| 00:44.18 | Xinhuan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFCSXr6qnv4 |
| 00:45.03 | Ellipsis | holy crap |
| 00:45.55 | Ellipsis | my mom just emailed me this: http://i27.tinypic.com/qx2rrl.png |
| 00:45.56 | Ellipsis | :( |
| 00:46.43 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:47.14 | Zhinjio | thats funny |
| 00:48.39 | Corgan | lol |
| 00:51.44 | Dashkal | snickers |
| 00:52.00 | Kalroth | Antiarc: There?! When you uncheck "Show when .. alone", it also disables ThreatLib, working as intended or? |
| 00:52.07 | Antiarc | That's intended. |
| 00:52.18 | Kalroth | So the other addons that use ThreatLib are fscked? :) |
| 00:52.30 | Antiarc | When you're solo, yes. |
| 00:52.36 | Antiarc | ThreatLib is always active when you're grouped. |
| 00:52.55 | Kalroth | okay, regardless of Omen settings? |
| 00:52.59 | Antiarc | Right. |
| 00:53.36 | Kalroth | Alrighty, a guildie was fucking around with a simple ThreatLib based mod and it gave me zero threat all the time :p |
| 00:53.51 | Kalroth | Was wondering what went on with it, until I messed with Omen settings |
| 00:55.17 | Antiarc | The addon can call ThreatLib:RequestActiveWhenSolo(true) |
| 00:55.19 | Antiarc | To turn that on |
| 00:55.19 | Kalroth | Aha, Threat:RequestActiveOnSolo(true) |
| 00:55.21 | Kalroth | :P |
| 00:55.30 | Kalroth | Aye, just browsed Omen code to find it |
| 00:55.31 | Kalroth | Thanks :) |
| 00:55.36 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: what about if you just wanna measure you vs. yr pet? |
| 00:55.46 | Jaxon | That is a seperate toggle |
| 00:55.47 | Antiarc | Zhinjio: "With a pet" is not alone :) |
| 00:55.52 | Zhinjio | or does "iwith... right. |
| 00:55.54 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 00:56.04 | Kalroth | Depends on how intimate you are with your pet |
| 00:56.37 | Xinhuan | does a banished mob count threat |
| 00:56.42 | Kalroth | No |
| 00:56.42 | Antiarc | No |
| 00:56.48 | Antiarc | Threat doesn't account for CC'd mobs though |
| 00:56.50 | Antiarc | It needs to eventually |
| 00:57.02 | Xinhuan | i assume the same for a phase shifted imp? |
| 00:57.06 | Kalroth | One of our warlocks kept insisting that you could build threat on a banished mob :( |
| 00:57.23 | aestil | Antiarc: i need my pullout threat bar |
| 00:57.27 | dodga | Kalroth: How, if he is immune to anything? :D |
| 00:57.34 | Antiarc | aestil: and I need a million dollars |
| 00:57.37 | Antiarc | >_> |
| 00:57.38 | Kalroth | dodga: my point exactly :) |
| 00:57.43 | aestil | Antiarc: fail |
| 00:58.19 | dodga | Kalroth: Though I wonder, what happens e.g. if a mob is banished and a Shadowpriest regens mana/hp on a group.. does that build threat on a banished mob? |
| 00:58.26 | Antiarc | No |
| 00:58.43 | Kalroth | Nope, the mob sees nothing, hears nothing and feels nothing :) |
| 00:58.54 | dodga | I see |
| 01:00.28 | grennon | is there a good resource for finding spell IDs? |
| 01:00.32 | grennon | the numerics |
| 01:00.36 | Arrowmaster | wowhead |
| 01:00.38 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70142 10BadBoy/BadBoy.toc: BadBoy: X-Credits: Shadowed(API hunting), Ellipsis(remembering odd things), Anea(SpamSentry Blacklist) |
| 01:01.38 | breser | Anyone can take a look and verify that this error http://ace.pastey.net/85896 is correctly fixed by http://ace.pastey.net/85895 |
| 01:02.50 | breser | Ohh and that's in Cartographer_ExtractGas |
| 01:03.19 | Xinhuan | probably yes |
| 01:03.43 | breser | I'm assuming bs was a reference to the now defunct BabbleSpell |
| 01:03.58 | Xinhuan | probably more like a drycode conversion job by kagaro |
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| 01:04.50 | Xinhuan | fact though, is that creating a library for 4 translations is dumb |
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| 01:05.20 | breser | Probably could just put them in Cartographer_ExtractGas |
| 01:05.35 | breser | Can't imagine very many other addons have a use for them. |
| 01:05.45 | Xinhuan | and you are correct |
| 01:05.52 | Xinhuan | only 2 addons on the whole SVN use babble-ore |
| 01:06.01 | Xinhuan | 3 use babble-herb, 2 use babble-gas |
| 01:06.27 | breser | What's the other babble-gas user? |
| 01:06.35 | Xinhuan | the 2 common ones for those is basically cartographer (duh) and cartographer_routes |
| 01:06.49 | Antiarc | I'm really sad that someone hasn't written a mod to optimize finding gas motes |
| 01:06.53 | Antiarc | And called it FartSniffer |
| 01:06.57 | Xinhuan | the 3rd herb one is some loser fubar plugin i think |
| 01:06.58 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 01:06.58 | hypetech | anybody know how to make ora2's ready check only check groups 1-5? |
| 01:07.25 | Xinhuan | you could use Routes Antiarc :) |
| 01:07.34 | Antiarc | I'm not an engineer |
| 01:07.43 | Xinhuan | but you'll need a prepopulated database of nodes |
| 01:07.46 | KriLL3 | If I've set up a bunch of addons just right on one character on one account can I move those settings to characters on other accounts? |
| 01:08.02 | breser | Routes doesn't work very well for gas clouds, they move. |
| 01:08.07 | KriLL3 | all addons that got profile import etc seems to ignore other accounds |
| 01:08.09 | Xinhuan | with some difficuly, yes KriLL3 |
| 01:08.21 | KriLL3 | yay, difficulty |
| 01:08.34 | Xinhuan | it involves editting character names in savedvars |
| 01:08.34 | CIA-39 | 03Zimran * r70143 10Yap/Yap.lua: |
| 01:08.34 | CIA-39 | Yap: bugfix |
| 01:08.34 | CIA-39 | - Fix reappearing buttons. |
| 01:08.43 | Xinhuan | and possibly server names |
| 01:08.45 | Zhinjio | I have gas routes mapped for all four zones. |
| 01:08.49 | Zhinjio | pretty complete, I think |
| 01:09.00 | Zhinjio | that sounds bad, doesn't it |
| 01:09.02 | Xinhuan | you should show us a screenshot |
| 01:09.05 | breser | Zhinjio: Ohhh can I get your notes? :P |
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| 01:09.20 | grennon | so where are the spell IDs at on wowhead? i tried looking at a few spells themselves but im not seeing a numeric ID field |
| 01:09.39 | Arrowmaster | in the url |
| 01:09.46 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=12345 <--- spellid |
| 01:09.46 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 01:09.54 | grennon | oh duh, awesome |
| 01:10.02 | Zhinjio | would it be more useful to post them under Cart_Data or something? |
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| 01:10.05 | Xinhuan | u can click on the "Get Link" button as well |
| 01:10.11 | Xinhuan | to copy a pastable link |
| 01:10.12 | Zhinjio | I'll look into that later |
| 01:10.51 | Xinhuan | you should just use GatherMate |
| 01:10.56 | Xinhuan | and import your data over |
| 01:11.15 | Xinhuan | and merge with wowhead gas data in GatherMate_Data |
| 01:11.17 | Xinhuan | then do a cleanup |
| 01:11.28 | breser | wowhead doesn't really have good gas data. |
| 01:11.39 | Zhinjio | I was considering it, since cart seems to be slogging me down of late. |
| 01:11.42 | Zhinjio | since 2.4 |
| 01:11.45 | kenlyric | wowhead has bad gas |
| 01:11.51 | Zhinjio | and I'm using ace3 now anyway, so... |
| 01:12.21 | Xinhuan | wowhead gas data can't possibly be bad when you merge it into your existing ones to complement it |
| 01:12.23 | Zhinjio | and maybe if I do, Xinhuan will rip apart my code someday. |
| 01:12.28 | Zhinjio | nudges. |
| 01:12.34 | Xinhuan | you can customize the cleanup distance in gathermate hehe |
| 01:13.04 | breser | Zhinjio: Unlike herbing the only gas data on wowhead are use submitted maps. I don't think their addon tracks gas cloud locations so they don't have a map for gass clouds |
| 01:13.21 | kenlyric | isn't gas data hard to track? |
| 01:13.21 | kenlyric | since they move |
| 01:13.27 | Zhinjio | nah, they don't move far |
| 01:13.41 | Zhinjio | so the normal variant distance gets cleaned up anyway |
| 01:13.53 | Zhinjio | breser: I have my own gas data... thats what we're talking about. |
| 01:13.59 | Zhinjio | I have all four zones pretty well plotted out. |
| 01:14.28 | on1y | is there a problem with omen? |
| 01:15.03 | Xinhuan | there are many problems with omen |
| 01:15.08 | JoshBorke | on1y: i dunno, you tell me |
| 01:15.26 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't even dare claim there is no problems with it ;p |
| 01:15.50 | breser | Omen ate my baby. |
| 01:20.29 | Diao | ffs |
| 01:20.30 | NeoTron | there's always Gas-X for all your gas issues |
| 01:20.52 | Diao | fuck the instance designer who made MrT and decided it was funny to make it so only prot pallies could hold agro on the mana wyrms |
| 01:20.53 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70144 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: change default icon scale to 11 to match default scale + font sizes |
| 01:21.34 | Zhinjio | Diao: They die in seconds anyway *shrug* |
| 01:21.46 | Diao | not fast enough that the aoe survives :\ |
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| 01:22.04 | Diao | only time i've done it with aoe surviving is with a pally healer to bop |
| 01:22.08 | Zhinjio | I've never seen anyone die there. |
| 01:22.09 | Diao | otherwise they just get wrecked |
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| 01:23.22 | ckknight | what's a good quest log addon? |
| 01:23.43 | Ackis | Xinhuan, was it you who postedthat they got their combat log to act like SCL? |
| 01:23.50 | kenlyric | questFu and betterquest are both excellent |
| 01:23.55 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 01:24.51 | ckknight | kenlyric: I don't trust the author of QuestFu, hopefully BetterQuest will be better. |
| 01:25.02 | kenlyric | betterquest is written by the same person :) |
| 01:25.06 | Zhinjio | I"m still using nQuestLog |
| 01:25.10 | ckknight | note: sarcasm, Kemayo's the author of both and is awesome |
| 01:25.13 | Zhinjio | and like it plenty fine. |
| 01:25.31 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:26.02 | Zhinjio | Hey Ackis |
| 01:26.26 | kenlyric | I haven't figured out the difference between the two, except one has fubar and one doesn't. |
| 01:26.58 | Chaud | ackis needs to write me a useful addon |
| 01:27.24 | Ackis | sup zhinjio? |
| 01:27.27 | Ackis | die chaud |
| 01:27.34 | Zhinjio | just sayin' hey |
| 01:27.46 | Ackis | ~lart chaud |
| 01:27.46 | purl | offers chaud some herring |
| 01:27.56 | Ackis | doing twins... meh |
| 01:30.24 | Ackis | antiarc: did you see my post about the combat log buttons being hidden? |
| 01:32.04 | Chaud | I need an addon that can do Taylor/McLaurin polynomials, and can find the radius/interval of convergence for power series and geometric power series by 8am ackis |
| 01:32.05 | Chaud | get to work |
| 01:32.33 | Kemayo_ | ckknight: I am, indeed, awesome. |
| 01:32.41 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 01:32.47 | ckknight | Kemayo_: any other awesome mods of yours to download? |
| 01:32.52 | ckknight | (starting playing a bit again) |
| 01:33.06 | Zhinjio | no wai |
| 01:33.26 | ckknight | ya wai |
| 01:33.36 | Zhinjio | sweet |
| 01:33.53 | JoshBorke | no wai |
| 01:34.04 | ckknight | had a rough day, lots of arguing |
| 01:34.05 | JoshBorke | less playing, more coding imo |
| 01:34.05 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r70145 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Fix some width issues. :SetValue might be kinda heavy now. Should optimize. |
| 01:34.13 | ckknight | I don't like arguing |
| 01:34.13 | Kemayo | I happen to be fond of BankStack. |
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| 01:34.23 | ckknight | what's that do? |
| 01:34.25 | JoshBorke | ok antiarc, time to rip your code a new one |
| 01:34.30 | Kemayo | Sorts your inventory. |
| 01:34.39 | ckknight | like MrPlow? |
| 01:34.44 | Antiarc | JoshBorke: Go nuts on it :P |
| 01:34.51 | Kemayo | It *used* to just fill stacks in your bank, thus the name. Then feature creep happened. |
| 01:34.53 | JoshBorke | geebus this is long |
| 01:35.07 | Kemayo | Yeah, like MrPlow. It's a lot faster than trunk MrPlow, though. :D |
| 01:35.51 | JoshBorke | hrm |
| 01:35.56 | ckknight | k |
| 01:36.05 | Aethenelle | Anyone notice WitchHunt's noext still includes libraries? |
| 01:36.41 | Kemayo | It was pretty fun, actually, the first time I got BankStack working -- hit the button, then *ker-chunk!* as 80 things moved at once. |
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| 01:36.56 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: can't remove bars yet? |
| 01:37.10 | Antiarc | Oh, I forgot to finish that. |
| 01:37.13 | Kemayo | For, y'know, horribly boring values of fun. |
| 01:37.30 | Zhinjio | If I'm already using something like Baggings that compresses things for me, is there a reason to use BankStack? |
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| 01:37.32 | Gngsk | Kemayo, BankStack need profiles and bag ignore! |
| 01:38.02 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio, virtual bags already does its own virtual mapping ;p |
| 01:38.16 | Xinhuan | sorting the real bags does nothing for the virtual mapping |
| 01:38.28 | Gngsk | where can I find this virtual bags? |
| 01:38.29 | Kemayo | Zhinjio: Only a niche use. It's still handy for, say, moving things to and from your bank. |
| 01:38.41 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 01:39.02 | Kemayo | I seem to recall that Baggins will actually move items within your bags to fill up stacks, right? |
| 01:39.08 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 01:39.25 | Kemayo | Okay, then the bags->bank stuff is all that might be useful to you. |
| 01:39.26 | Zhinjio | it makes a little icon if you have unstacked items to stack them |
| 01:39.55 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: hm, i'm a fan of micro optimizations because well, they are the easiest thing for me to find |
| 01:39.59 | JoshBorke | Antiarc: mind if i dig in? |
| 01:40.11 | Antiarc | JoshBorke: By all means, please feel free, commit anything you like |
| 01:40.20 | Antiarc | If it sucks I will yell at you and insult your mother while I revert it :P |
| 01:40.34 | Kemayo | I've tried Baggins/ArcInventory/etc a number of times, but it's never quite felt right to me. |
| 01:41.08 | Zhinjio | How's violation working for folks? Is it threat-2.0 compliant now and basically functional? |
| 01:41.09 | mitch0 | I still use ABP, but I feel it's gonna die any patch now :( |
| 01:41.28 | Kemayo | Gngsk: Yeah, I still need to get that. |
| 01:41.55 | Kemayo | might just use AceDB-3.0. Profiles for free, woo! |
| 01:42.26 | Zhinjio | anyone using violation? |
| 01:42.30 | Zhinjio | or just recount? *grin* |
| 01:42.34 | Kemayo | Zhinjio: I use it, and it seems to work. |
| 01:42.38 | Zhinjio | alrighty |
| 01:42.45 | mitch0 | I use it too |
| 01:43.23 | mitch0 | it has bars, so it must be good. although I'm not always top of the damage meters, so I suspect it's bugged a bit :) |
| 01:45.05 | Zhinjio | the coolest thing I like about baggins is the fact that I no longer have to worry about organizing the bags, or worry about where to put stuff |
| 01:45.11 | Zhinjio | (like with Bagnon) |
| 01:45.14 | Zhinjio | thats just awesome |
| 01:45.33 | Zhinjio | there is a little bit of overlap between some categories which is a big frustrating |
| 01:45.43 | Zhinjio | (eg, consumables vs. tradeskill items) |
| 01:45.48 | Zhinjio | but thats ok |
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| 01:47.16 | hypetech | antiarc around? |
| 01:47.18 | Jaxon | is it /script RepopMe() ? |
| 01:47.23 | Jaxon | I can never remember the capitalization |
| 01:47.35 | breser | Yes. |
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| 01:48.27 | hypetech | ~seen Antiarc |
| 01:48.31 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 430 messages. Is idling for 8m 11s, last said: 'If it sucks I will yell at you and insult your mother while I revert it :P'. |
| 01:48.31 | Zhinjio | hahahahahah |
| 01:48.53 | Zhinjio | just inchat: |
| 01:48.54 | Antiarc | I'm here |
| 01:49.06 | Zhinjio | darnit... copy paste from wow didn't work. hang on |
| 01:49.11 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r70146 10MaxStats/ (. Libs/ MaxStats.lua MaxStats.toc): MaxStats: Initial commit. Testingish addon for LibBars-3.0. Shows your AP/haste/dodge/crit in current / max form with bar display. |
| 01:49.32 | Zhinjio | [19:48][G] [Cieljuk:70]: jio, i was wondering if i could commission you for a mod... |
| 01:49.36 | Zhinjio | [19:48][G] [Cieljuk:70]: everytime i take off on my flying mount, i'd like it to play R. Kelly's "I Believe I Can Fly" in the background |
| 01:50.44 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:51.41 | Ackis | I want mine to play rocket man! |
| 01:52.21 | Ackis | Antiarc: are the combat filter buttons not being shown an issue with chatter? |
| 01:52.36 | Antiarc | If you have a fully opaque background, yes |
| 01:52.40 | Antiarc | I neeed to figure that one out |
| 01:52.43 | Jaxon | I want mine to play the transformers sound. |
| 01:53.15 | durcyn | huh, so why the hell doesn't Rebirth fire SPELL_CAST_SUCCEEDED |
| 01:53.17 | Kemayo | It just needs to say "Autobots roll out!" whenever you get on a mount. |
| 01:54.09 | Zhinjio | it should only do the autobots thing for the eng.mount. |
| 01:54.10 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 01:56.01 | hypetech | Antiarc: any plans to add tab cycling for the last tell response thing in chatter? Like when you hit "r" to respond to the last person, you can hit tab to cycle through? |
| 01:56.06 | Kemayo | And the addon must be called... CarTalk. |
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| 01:56.34 | Antiarc | hypetech: That's a stock UI feature |
| 01:57.03 | Zhinjio | if we could find un-license-encumbered sounds.. its actually an easy addon. |
| 01:57.04 | hypetech | Antiarc: that's what I thought, but it isn't working in chatter :-\ |
| 01:57.12 | hypetech | Antiarc: um. nvm. |
| 01:57.14 | hypetech | disregard |
| 01:57.17 | hypetech | >.> |
| 01:57.59 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r70147 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Typo fix, add optional frame name for anchor groups so the layout cache can save anchor positions. |
| 01:58.38 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r70148 10MaxStats/MaxStats.lua: MaxStats: Icon fixes. |
| 02:02.17 | Xelo | Before I start coding, is there an existing mod out there to automatically raidkick people who haven't looted brutallus' badges within 5 minutes? |
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| 02:02.56 | Aethenelle | Antiarc: You put that on trunk already?!? dang... rock on... |
| 02:03.09 | Antiarc | Aethenelle: The test addon is trunked, the lib isn't |
| 02:03.35 | Aethenelle | Antiarc: makes more sense i guess... still you're fast... |
| 02:04.26 | Ackis | bloody hell, incubator wants to go into standby everytime I zone |
| 02:04.49 | Paene | argh |
| 02:04.56 | Aethenelle | took me most of the day to get this first, simple HelloWorld type adon coded and working... |
| 02:04.56 | Paene | I'm still not getting SPELL_AURA_APPLIED |
| 02:05.10 | ckknight | ick, scrollframes in AceGUI are buggy |
| 02:06.04 | Aethenelle | ... all it does is post to raid warning and chat window when you gain/lose aggro... |
| 02:06.23 | ckknight | oh God, with inner groups of inner groups of inner groups it just looks ... bad |
| 02:06.24 | Funkeh` | ckknight, :AddToBlizzOptions ftw |
| 02:07.28 | Zhinjio | hmm. weirdness in AceConfig-3.0 |
| 02:07.33 | ckknight | nope, Funkeh` |
| 02:07.42 | ckknight | happens in both Blizzard's options as well as the /ace3 frame |
| 02:07.46 | Zhinjio | if I have a dropdown opened, and then click on the panel it spawned from, the dropdown goes BEHIND the panel |
| 02:07.56 | Zhinjio | that just ain't right. |
| 02:08.07 | ckknight | yea, I ran into that two days ago |
| 02:08.08 | Funkeh` | ckknight, never noticed any problems scrolling down in blizz |
| 02:08.10 | Zhinjio | not even sure who to report that to |
| 02:08.49 | ckknight | Funkeh`: I got scrolling problems in both |
| 02:09.26 | ckknight | basically, when switching tabs, it reset the scroll to 0, but not the scrollbar |
| 02:10.17 | Funkeh` | oh |
| 02:11.50 | Kemayo | Picky, picky, picky. |
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| 02:12.51 | ckknight | holy hell, how does BankStack do it that fast? |
| 02:13.06 | ckknight | Kemayo: it's total bullshit. I don't have those issues with my config |
| 02:13.36 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r70149 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Set text on re-init via :NewBar |
| 02:14.23 | Kemayo | ckknight: It moves things until it finds a locked item (i.e. one that was already moved), then it waits until that item unlocks and repeats. |
| 02:14.34 | ckknight | ah, cool |
| 02:14.53 | Kemayo | ckknight: It could probably be optimized slightly further... but at this point I think it's plenty fast enough. |
| 02:15.27 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r70150 10DaHud/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:15.27 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 02:15.27 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:16.25 | Kemayo | ckknight: It's nice and impressive if all you've seen before is MrPlow. :D |
| 02:16.33 | ckknight | very true |
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| 02:23.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Ok, [TargetingList] is a little silly.. needs to be a SmartTargetingList that won't display a ginormous horizontal line in a raid |
| 02:24.06 | durcyn | Paene: AURA_APPLIED for -what- exactly? |
| 02:28.49 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: what would it show? :-P |
| 02:29.20 | VonhintenHOME` | Like TinyTip does, something like Raid(23) |
| 02:29.56 | ckknight | so do [TargetingNum] |
| 02:30.00 | CIA-39 | 03joshborke 07LibBars-1.0 * r70151 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: fix some typos and do some minor optimizations |
| 02:30.04 | ckknight | or [NumTargeting] |
| 02:30.06 | ckknight | whatever it is |
| 02:30.37 | VonhintenHOME` | well, tinytip showed a name, or a number if there was more, I think.. was kinda a smart list |
| 02:30.48 | VonhintenHOME` | been trying to get similar functionality |
| 02:31.17 | ckknight | [NumTargeting > 3 ? "Raid[" NumTargeting "]" ! TargetingList] |
| 02:31.57 | ckknight | or however you want it |
| 02:33.06 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll try it |
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| 02:36.32 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, that's good |
| 02:37.01 | ckknight | understand how it works and all? |
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| 02:37.43 | VonhintenHOME` | it's a C inline if, with different syntax |
| 02:38.01 | VonhintenHOME` | ?! instead of ?: |
| 02:38.10 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:38.27 | MentalPower | why didn't you use ?: |
| 02:38.29 | ckknight | you can also do: [if NumTargeting > 3 then "Raid[" NumTargeting "]" else TargetingList end] |
| 02:38.40 | ckknight | MentalPower: because : is used for modification |
| 02:38.41 | VonhintenHOME` | ah |
| 02:38.45 | ckknight | MentalPower: [HP:Red] |
| 02:38.56 | CIA-39 | 03parnic * r70152 10IceHUD/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:38.56 | CIA-39 | IceHUD: |
| 02:38.56 | CIA-39 | - added a configuration mode to show all bars temporarily so they can be placed |
| 02:38.56 | CIA-39 | - changed how frames are shown and hidden so we don't call show/hide unnecessarily |
| 02:38.56 | CIA-39 | - widened the min/max offset numbers to allow greater placement flexibility |
| 02:39.03 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: they're exactly equal |
| 02:39.04 | VonhintenHOME` | could have used | for modification :) |
| 02:39.06 | MentalPower | ah, fair nuf |
| 02:39.15 | VonhintenHOME` | [HP|Red] |
| 02:39.34 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: no, | is used for or |
| 02:39.46 | ckknight | [true | false] |
| 02:39.48 | ckknight | there's also & |
| 02:40.04 | ckknight | also, 'and' and 'or' also exist, same things |
| 02:40.41 | VonhintenHOME` | [HP!Red] =P |
| 02:41.25 | ckknight | that's invalid. |
| 02:41.43 | ckknight | well, not if they're switched |
| 02:41.50 | ckknight | in any event, modifiers are used more frequently |
| 02:43.17 | NivFreak | soooo |
| 02:43.17 | ckknight | and I didn't really want to do ., since it's hard to see and doesn't get the whole piping idea across, imho |
| 02:43.20 | ckknight | it's not OO |
| 02:43.26 | NivFreak | what the fuck just but a stack of bars in the middle of my screen |
| 02:43.29 | NivFreak | after I updated |
| 02:43.38 | NivFreak | "EnemyCasts" is one of them |
| 02:43.44 | NivFreak | they are all overlayed |
| 02:44.17 | NivFreak | anyone? |
| 02:44.29 | NivFreak | s/but/put/ |
| 02:47.45 | NivFreak | beuler? |
| 02:48.27 | Zhinjio | no idea, NivFreak. |
| 02:48.44 | Zhinjio | I was getting some extra bars out of quartz (Buff module) |
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| 02:48.47 | Zhinjio | but I disabled 'em |
| 02:51.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Antiarc, you around? |
| 02:51.25 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 02:51.48 | VonhintenHOME` | Just had an idea... not sure if you've heard it before |
| 02:52.53 | VonhintenHOME` | There was a question during a boss fight whether someone had pulled agro when they died... it would be cool if everyone who gains agro gets a snapshot taken at the point they gain agro |
| 02:53.06 | VonhintenHOME` | and have a snapshot mode that you can view the numbers at the point where you last gained agro |
| 02:53.16 | Antiarc | That'd be pretty messy due to RSTS abilities |
| 02:53.58 | mykx | any way to narrow down what addons are causing FPS drops in combat ? |
| 02:54.16 | NivFreak | this just started happening after an update |
| 02:54.18 | NivFreak | ... |
| 02:54.21 | NivFreak | fuck |
| 02:54.24 | VonhintenHOME` | Not sure what that means :) |
| 02:55.01 | VonhintenHOME` | I just want to know if I pulled agro after I died. My meter gets cleared and I can't see where i was |
| 02:55.32 | NivFreak | NaturCombatTimers <-- this sounds fishy |
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| 02:56.27 | NivFreak | yep |
| 02:56.28 | NivFreak | that was it |
| 02:56.33 | NivFreak | who the hell wrote that |
| 02:56.42 | DarkElf | Belladonna |
| 02:56.42 | NeoTron | Antiarc: it would be nice if omen was smart enouhg ot realize I didn't pull aggro off the tank that had 50k more threat than me too though |
| 02:57.38 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, this case, it was lurker punting the tank, and moving to me (the next melee on agro).. but I had no way to make sure |
| 02:59.32 | VonhintenHOME` | Anyway, just a thought |
| 02:59.42 | Antiarc | Lurker's a funny fight because he attacks whoever is in range |
| 02:59.53 | Antiarc | If he punts a tank he'll hit someone else even if they aren't over threatwise |
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| 03:07.15 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 03:07.22 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r70153 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Bugfix |
| 03:07.23 | sag_ich_nicht | no actually wrong channel. |
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| 03:10.15 | sag_ich_nicht | http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=40088 <--someone care to tell this guy how to do libs/savedvariables in a better way? >.> |
| 03:10.19 | sag_ich_nicht | he's quite responsive/positive in terms of criticism, and i don't have the in-depth knowledge to do it, but he definitivly needs some help... making an empty toc addon just so you get a saved vars file=adjkasdasdasdasd *facepalm* |
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| 03:47.46 | starlon | lol |
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| 03:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
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| 03:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | someone fix LibGUIDRegistry-0.1 so it's name in the .toc is properly done |
| 03:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | pissing me off :P |
| 03:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Antiarc |
| 03:47.47 | purl | cuts off Antiarc's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 03:47.47 | Maelos | IS the changelog from a WUA run stored anywhere on disk? |
| 03:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 03:47.47 | sag_ich_nicht | can't remember where tho |
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| 03:47.49 | Maelos | Yeah Im not having luck finding where it is |
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| 03:47.50 | CIA-39 | 03Kriery * r70154 10FuBar_QuestsFu/QuestsFu.lua: |
| 03:47.50 | CIA-39 | FuBar_QuestsFu: |
| 03:47.50 | CIA-39 | - Replace blizzard quest link as quest title (shift click action) |
| 03:47.50 | kenlyric | o.O |
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| 03:47.50 | CIA-39 | 03starinnia * r70155 10MobileVault/Core.lua: MobileVault: Small fix to scan code, should hopefully stop the addon from creating random blank pages |
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| 03:47.51 | CIA-39 | 03nicksmith * r70156 10TMrecruit/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua TMrecruit.toc Version Log.txt): TMrecruit: Added features to customize and rank up automatically |
| 03:48.50 | Antiarc | what. |
| 03:48.50 | Ellipsis | that was slow |
| 03:48.50 | Zhinjio | 26 minute response time? wow. |
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| 03:54.53 | VonhintenHOME` | vashj is so kicking our ass... |
| 03:55.08 | Dekster | Did Blizzard break the [TalentTree] and [TalentSpec] DogTags or do I need to go through my settings again? |
| 03:55.28 | VonhintenHOME` | mine work |
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| 03:55.39 | Venara|Wc3 | Quick Pitbull Question: Is it possible to show certain debuffs via the raidframe border without activating that all debuffs will be shown? thats what i wanna see: debuffs that are curable by me and raid debuffs like "Doomfire" (Archimonde) |
| 03:55.50 | Dekster | It's probably me then. Thanks! |
| 03:56.07 | Zhinjio | gah, Ackis! |
| 03:56.40 | Ackis | ? |
| 03:56.44 | Ackis | just tabbed back over |
| 03:56.50 | Ackis | 3 min break on raid |
| 03:58.04 | vithos | Dekster: talent inspection only works cross faction when you're not flagged, etc. |
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| 03:59.53 | Venara|Wc3 | vithos: right u are, but it doesn't seem to function properly anyways. when i'm im shattrath hovering people with my mouse, the talemt spec in CowTip is often not shown for some people |
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| 04:00.37 | Venara|Wc3 | since it only seems to work at random i'd call that a bug ^^ |
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| 04:01.52 | DarkElf | shame the coordinates in the world map cant be disabled cause tom tom, cartographer both have more precision but are garbled by the blizzard text |
| 04:01.55 | Ellipsis | Venara|Wc3: some people have reported similar issues but it has always worked fine for me |
| 04:02.01 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r70157 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: |
| 04:02.01 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 04:02.01 | CIA-39 | - zhCN update,help test.(Thanks Ghostar) |
| 04:02.56 | Yssaril | didnt they also impose a range on talent inspect last patch? |
| 04:03.09 | Venara|Wc3 | Ellipsis: Well pre 2.4 it did for me as well. but now i can't get it to work properly. sometimes it works and sometimes it just won't show the talent spec for some people, but for others it does |
| 04:03.56 | Venara | Yssaril: i think so, yes, but thats certainly not the reason why the DogTag doesn't work for people that are standing right next to you |
| 04:04.45 | sag_ich_nicht | i blame dogtags-3.0 not getting talent infos from rock anymore |
| 04:04.45 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 04:04.50 | Ellipsis | no |
| 04:05.15 | Ellipsis | 2.4 meant Blizz limited talent inspection a lot |
| 04:05.35 | Ellipsis | and dogtag now uses LibTalentQuery to handle it |
| 04:05.41 | Ellipsis | so it's likely an issue with that lib |
| 04:05.56 | Venara | I'd agree on that |
| 04:09.09 | DarkElf | [2008/04/17 00:08:22-21-x1]: FuBar2\FuBar_Panel.lua:486: attempt to index upvalue 'topTexture' (a nil value) |
| 04:09.10 | DarkElf | FuBar2\FuBar_Panel.lua:1180: in function `StopDrag' |
| 04:09.10 | DarkElf | FuBar-52783\FuBar_Panel.lua:71: in function <Interface\AddOns\FuBar\FuBar_Panel.lua:67> |
| 04:09.40 | Ellipsis | FuBar2 is unsupported |
| 04:09.45 | Ellipsis | use the current version instead |
| 04:09.50 | DarkElf | shoot i thought i was using 3 i need to turn it off |
| 04:10.03 | DarkElf | sorry |
| 04:10.11 | sag_ich_nicht | honestly |
| 04:10.16 | sag_ich_nicht | someone rename Fubar2 on the SVN |
| 04:10.21 | sag_ich_nicht | to Fubar1 |
| 04:10.32 | sag_ich_nicht | or just delete it |
| 04:10.35 | sag_ich_nicht | same for cart |
| 04:10.59 | DarkElf | i was wondering why the bar quit showing on the screen |
| 04:11.43 | Zhinjio | Ackis: I think I must have screwed up libs on one of my toons. ARL couldn't find AceLocale-3.0 |
| 04:11.50 | Zhinjio | my other toon isn't doing it though, so... |
| 04:14.12 | Ellipsis | shouldn't be hard to narrow down |
| 04:14.16 | Ellipsis | how many addons load before ARL |
| 04:14.16 | AnduinLothar | ZOMGBuffs author here? |
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| 04:14.37 | Zhinjio | yeah, I'm sure I just unchecked a libarry or something, on accident. |
| 04:14.45 | Zhinjio | I'll look at it later |
| 04:15.39 | Venara | some1 tell me: http://s2.directupload.net/images/080403/9uxyjlps.jpg chat frame border: is this possible with eePanels2 without having the actual texture that was used in only one panel? |
| 04:16.32 | Zhinjio | Venara: not squared off like that. |
| 04:16.39 | Zhinjio | bliz tooltips are rounded on corners |
| 04:17.11 | chiper | ping Zeksie |
| 04:17.24 | Venara | mhh, you know where to get a few border textures? |
| 04:17.25 | kenlyric | anyone got a clue if you can make the hotkey text larger in BT3? |
| 04:17.27 | Maelos | WUA is completely throwing me off. Where is the thing even installed. |
| 04:17.31 | Ellipsis | Venara: you could fake the border using multiple panels, but it's really better to use a border texture |
| 04:17.37 | Maelos | The shortcut doesn't reference any particular file/directory. |
| 04:17.41 | kenlyric | Maelos: it's a secret to everyone |
| 04:17.44 | Maelos | And is classified as an "application pointer" |
| 04:17.54 | Zhinjio | I've not played with border textures atll. |
| 04:17.56 | Zhinjio | at all |
| 04:17.58 | Venara | Ellipsis: yeah, do you know where to get some? |
| 04:18.01 | Ellipsis | nobody knows where it's hiding |
| 04:18.06 | Ellipsis | that's why the shortcut exists |
| 04:18.12 | Ellipsis | also, it's WAU |
| 04:18.30 | Maelos | How about this -- where does it put the changelog |
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| 04:19.01 | Venara | Maelos: http://code.google.com/p/jwowupdater/downloads/list and you'll never have any more problems ^^ |
| 04:19.07 | kenlyric | "it's a secret to everyone" |
| 04:19.19 | mykx | any way to narrow down what addons are causing FPS drops in combat ? (out of combat my fps is normal 100+ in combat its < 10) |
| 04:19.22 | Ellipsis | Venara: dunno, I usually just make my own |
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| 04:19.54 | Venara | Ellipsis: i'm just not good with this stuff :/ what program are u using? |
| 04:20.03 | sylvanaar | mkay - clickonce(tm) is an MS technology. One major part of it is that applications never have a definiate path. That is why there is a special type of shortcut for them |
| 04:20.06 | Ellipsis | um, whatever's handy |
| 04:20.11 | Ellipsis | if you have photoshop or something use that |
| 04:20.37 | Venara | well i got photoshop, i'll try playing with it |
| 04:21.07 | Maelos | Im not really having problems |
| 04:21.14 | sylvanaar | <kenlyric> "it's a secret to everyone" <-- Exactly |
| 04:21.34 | Maelos | Not helpful |
| 04:21.59 | sylvanaar | however, if you enable the diagnostic logs, it will add some items to your "view" menu |
| 04:22.05 | kenlyric | C:\Users\<name>\AppData\Local\Temp\WowAceUpdater |
| 04:22.15 | sylvanaar | these will help you find the data files |
| 04:22.39 | kenlyric | nope, not in there |
| 04:22.41 | CIA-39 | 03nicksmith * r70158 10TMrecruit/ (Core.lua TMrecruit.toc): TMrecruit: Forgot to uncomment a needed command from testing. |
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| 04:22.54 | sylvanaar | the changelog is generated in memory |
| 04:22.58 | Maelos | Perfect, thanks. |
| 04:23.03 | sylvanaar | i think |
| 04:23.10 | Maelos | No, it's here |
| 04:23.10 | sylvanaar | has been drinking |
| 04:23.17 | CIA-39 | 03sano 07sano * r70159 10Assessment/Modules/Damage.lua: Assessment: Reworked the event filters and damage classification. FriendlyDamageDone/DamageDone/EnemyDamageDone should be correct now. |
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| 04:26.59 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 04:27.04 | sag_ich_nicht | some Ace2 dev here? :O |
| 04:27.18 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:26] Nicholao: I see. Yes, this is an issue with AceTab. They temporarily insert an unprintable character into the editbox to find the cursor's position. They nil the "OnTextSet" handler of the editbox while doing so, but they neglect to also nil the "OnChar" handler, which is what QuickChatlink uses. For that matter, nilling the "OnTextChanged" handler might also be a good idea. |
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| 04:27.36 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes i'm headed to the jira already) |
| 04:27.46 | Antiarc | ROFL |
| 04:27.51 | Antiarc | So, we were wiping, we're in BT |
| 04:27.56 | Antiarc | Hunders FD |
| 04:28.01 | Antiarc | Hunters* |
| 04:28.04 | Antiarc | Rogues vanish |
| 04:28.05 | Antiarc | Mages invis |
| 04:28.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Antiarc care to read what i just pasted? :P |
| 04:28.39 | Antiarc | And our DPS warrior hearthstones and then uses his BT neck to port back to BT |
| 04:28.45 | AnduinLothar | god sag. "me me me" all the time |
| 04:29.09 | sag_ich_nicht | AnduinLothar: if everyone looks after himself, everyone is looked after |
| 04:29.10 | sag_ich_nicht | :) |
| 04:29.23 | AnduinLothar | lol ant, we wiped in hijal and i bubble hearthed and took the teleport back to hyjal |
| 04:29.30 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:28] <+Antiarc> And our DPS warrior hearthstones and then uses his BT neck to port back to BT <--lmao |
| 04:29.37 | sag_ich_nicht | i did that too :> |
| 04:29.46 | sag_ich_nicht | (in hyjal, that is) |
| 04:31.20 | Ackis | I did that before on essence once lol |
| 04:31.40 | sag_ich_nicht | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACETWO-68 created :P |
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| 04:37.20 | sag_ich_nicht | [06:28] <+AnduinLothar> god sag. "me me me" all the time <--also considering Antiarc is writting Chatter, the issue might affect him too |
| 04:37.24 | sag_ich_nicht | so no, it's not just mememe :P |
| 04:37.50 | durcyn | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 04:37.50 | purl | strangles sag_ich_nicht with a doohicky mouse cord |
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| 04:50.18 | Venara | Ellipsis: no need for creating the border texture, just found a ui compilation and stole it :p |
| 04:50.57 | Ackis | ~lart ackis |
| 04:50.57 | purl | decapitates ackis conan the destroyer style |
| 04:51.01 | Ackis | yay! |
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| 05:10.22 | NeoTron | so we're getting owned seriously on brutallus |
| 05:10.41 | NeoTron | plenty of ppl getting killed way below tank on aggro. below 100% |
| 05:10.42 | NeoTron | sigh |
| 05:10.48 | CIA-39 | 03sano 07sano * r70160 10Assessment/Modules/ (Damage.lua Healing.lua): Assessment: Environmental damage doesn't have a source. Reworked healing filter. |
| 05:11.15 | NeoTron | omen is for some reason not even closely correct |
| 05:12.27 | vithos | i still don't trust Threat-2.0 anywhere close to as much as i did Threat-1.0 |
| 05:12.43 | vithos | but i don't think it's just that fight |
| 05:13.06 | Antiarc | There are still bugs in -2.0 |
| 05:13.10 | Antiarc | But I'm working on 'em |
| 05:13.51 | NeoTron | problem is we didn't pull ast night |
| 05:14.06 | NeoTron | today all of a sudden we've had like aggro pull in every single attempt |
| 05:14.13 | NeoTron | and no one has been even above the tank |
| 05:14.46 | NeoTron | ironically in another attempt I was at around 132% of the tank and din't pull |
| 05:14.47 | NeoTron | don't get it |
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| 05:17.51 | NeoTron | something is seriously fucked here |
| 05:18.33 | NeoTron | so brutallus seems bugged |
| 05:18.59 | NeoTron | there's no way a hunter pulled aggro |
| 05:19.02 | NeoTron | he wasn't even on omen |
| 05:20.28 | NeoTron | http://nihilum.mousesports.com/forum/raiding-grounds/13286-brutallus-odd-threat.html |
| 05:21.14 | Shirik | Antiarc: ping |
| 05:21.32 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.42 | NeoTron | so we're not the only one noticing brutallus doing weird shit like this |
| 05:21.47 | Shirik | Hey I'm having some strange issue with Omen thought I'd pass your way, no big deal |
| 05:21.52 | Antiarc | Sur,e hit me |
| 05:22.19 | Shirik | I can't reliably reproduce it but it seems to be related to passing the warning threshold ("Warning: passed xx% of yy's threat") at or near mob death |
| 05:22.31 | Shirik | or when it happens rapidly several times in succession |
| 05:22.55 | Shirik | the red flashing frame goes on ad infinitum except when I'm in combat, then it turns off, then when I leave combat again it goes flashing again |
| 05:23.05 | Antiarc | I've seen that, and I can't figure out how on earth it happens |
| 05:23.19 | Shirik | yeah I really wish I could reliably reproduce it for you :/ |
| 05:24.13 | Shirik | I really shouldn't have omen on at lv 21 anyway |
| 05:24.19 | Shirik | but it exists nonetheless :P |
| 05:25.09 | omega | I use omen on my 27 hunter :p |
| 05:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Shirik: just add debug messages |
| 05:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
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| 05:35.11 | CIA-39 | 03nemes * r70161 10NShakedown/ (56 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:35.11 | CIA-39 | NShakedown: |
| 05:35.11 | CIA-39 | - Get rid of all globals but the addon itself: NShakedown |
| 05:35.11 | CIA-39 | - Safer handling of Omen; http://jira.wowace.com/browse/OMEN-54 is still an issue, however should require no further NShakedown changes when it is fixed |
| 05:35.52 | Ackis | Ping Antiarc |
| 05:36.40 | CIA-39 | 03sayclub * r70162 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: |
| 05:36.40 | CIA-39 | Parrot : |
| 05:36.40 | CIA-39 | - Update koKR local |
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| 05:48.51 | CIA-39 | 03nemes * r70163 10NShakedown/ (Addons/Bongos3.lua Addons/SorrenTimers.lua NShakedown.toc): |
| 05:48.51 | CIA-39 | NShakedown: |
| 05:48.51 | CIA-39 | - add Bongos3, SorrenTimers support |
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| 05:59.05 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70164 10XPerl/ (XPerl.toc localization.zhCN.lua): XPerl: zhCN update |
| 05:59.31 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70165 10XPerl_ArcaneBar/XPerl_ArcaneBar.toc: XPerl_ArcaneBar: zhCN update |
| 06:00.11 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70166 10XPerl_CustomHighlight/XPerl_CustomHighlight.toc: XPerl_CustomHighlight: zhCN update |
| 06:00.31 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70167 10XPerl_RaidFrames/localization.zhCN.lua: XPerl_RaidFrames: zhCN update |
| 06:00.32 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70168 10XPerl_Options/ (XPerl_Options.toc localization.zhCN.lua): XPerl_Options: zhCN update |
| 06:00.49 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70169 10XPerl_RaidHelper/localization.zhCN.lua: XPerl_RaidHelper: zhCN update |
| 06:00.53 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70170 10XPerl_RaidMonitor/Localization.zhCN.lua: XPerl_RaidMonitor: zhCN update |
| 06:01.00 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70171 10XPerl_Tutorial/localization.zhCN.lua: XPerl_Tutorial: zhCN update |
| 06:01.43 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r70172 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 06:01.43 | CIA-39 | TankPoints: |
| 06:01.43 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324) |
| 06:02.53 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r70173 10TankPoints/TankPoints-Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 06:02.53 | CIA-39 | TankPoints: |
| 06:02.53 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324) |
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| 06:07.04 | CIA-39 | 03Shot * r70174 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua: |
| 06:07.04 | CIA-39 | DoIKnowYou: |
| 06:07.04 | CIA-39 | - fix svn keyword |
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| 06:18.16 | Nevins | Hello anyone here? |
| 06:18.34 | Ackis | no |
| 06:18.41 | Nevins | :D |
| 06:18.52 | Ackis | I think i just broke wow and i blame antiarc |
| 06:19.00 | Antiarc | It's probably my fault |
| 06:19.09 | durcyn | fucking Antiarc. |
| 06:19.11 | Nevins | I broke the internet once. |
| 06:19.12 | CIA-39 | 03scorpio0920 * r70175 10IHML/ (IHML.toc locales/locale-zhCN.lua locales/locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 06:19.12 | CIA-39 | IHML: |
| 06:19.12 | CIA-39 | - Update zhTW & zhCN localization. (Thanks s8095324) |
| 06:19.35 | Nevins | Tripped on my cat 5 cable. |
| 06:19.44 | Nevins | Internet broken! |
| 06:20.27 | Nevins | So, um I'm pretty much new at making addons is this the right place to be asking developmental type questions? |
| 06:21.24 | Ackis | ~asktoask |
| 06:21.24 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:21.35 | Ackis | i've always wanted to do that :D |
| 06:21.38 | Paene | lol |
| 06:21.44 | Ackis | even though it doesn't really apply 100% |
| 06:21.57 | Paene | close enough :) |
| 06:22.18 | Paene | tell ya what Ackis |
| 06:22.21 | Paene | I'll set ya up |
| 06:22.30 | Paene | Hey Ackis, mind if I ask a question of you? |
| 06:22.59 | Ackis | ~asktoask |
| 06:23.00 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 06:23.01 | Ackis | yay! |
| 06:23.11 | Ackis | lol |
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| 06:24.22 | Paene | there we go! |
| 06:24.23 | Paene | lol |
| 06:24.43 | Nevins | Hmm.. well in that case what is the best way to get started with addon development. I have a WoW designer but more or less the tutorial that it came with sucks, I was wondering if anyone knew of any good ones. I really just want to make a user interface that will have 2 buttons on it. One being done which closes the Ui and the other being related to a function that does SendChatMessage(" |
| 06:25.06 | Ackis | www.wowace.com |
| 06:25.16 | Ackis | there's some nice tutorials in the wiki there |
| 06:25.32 | Ackis | and the official UI forum has a link to a bunch of tutorials/etc |
| 06:25.47 | Nevins | Okay I see that page now, where should I start? |
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| 06:26.17 | Ackis | if you want to develop in Ace, look at the welcomehome Ace3 tutorial |
| 06:27.00 | Nevins | How is ace diffrent from just opening a text file and writing xml .lua .toc ? |
| 06:27.09 | Nevins | It's it a full out interface? |
| 06:27.16 | Ackis | it's a framework |
| 06:27.37 | Ackis | you still write in lua for it |
| 06:27.52 | Ackis | but it provides common functions |
| 06:28.16 | Paene | There's an Ace3 WelcomeHome tutorial now? |
| 06:28.22 | Paene | when did that happen? |
| 06:28.23 | Paene | lol |
| 06:28.33 | Ackis | just got finished today i think |
| 06:28.43 | Paene | nice |
| 06:30.07 | Nevins | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace2_Addon IS that the link you were talking about? |
| 06:30.14 | Nevins | That says ace2. |
| 06:30.22 | Nevins | Is there an ace 1? |
| 06:30.37 | Ackis | yes, but it's old and not used anymore... and a new Ace3 was just released |
| 06:30.51 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WelcomeHome_-_Your_first_Ace3_Addon |
| 06:31.15 | Venara | gnaa |
| 06:31.23 | Venara | i'm gonna get crazy |
| 06:31.45 | Venara | someone please tell me why one of my Panels (eePanles2) is always gona until i re-anchor it |
| 06:32.00 | Venara | (on wow restart) |
| 06:32.09 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r70176 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: |
| 06:32.09 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 06:32.09 | CIA-39 | - zhCN update. |
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| 06:32.59 | Orionshock | anyone know if ckknight_ is alive atm? |
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| 06:33.33 | Nevins | Ackis I made a interface already I was curious if there are any common reasons why it wouldn't show up on start up. All it is is a box with two buttons in it. Is there an onload event I need to put in somewhere? |
| 06:33.53 | Ackis | are lua errors enabled on your client? |
| 06:34.11 | Nevins | I didn't get any errors when I logged in. |
| 06:34.17 | Nevins | It simply didn't show up. |
| 06:34.39 | Nevins | I could pastebin the 3 files if you want. |
| 06:35.12 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: pretty sure he hasn't died lately, why? |
| 06:35.38 | Orionshock | issue with dt-3 that was put on my plate that im trying to debug |
| 06:35.46 | Ackis | nevins: do that, I'm about to head to bed so I can't take a look at it... plus I don't know much about UIs yet myself |
| 06:35.46 | Ellipsis | you're doing it wrong |
| 06:35.51 | Ellipsis | but go on, I can likely help with it |
| 06:35.53 | Orionshock | hehe.. |
| 06:35.54 | Zhinjio | licks Ellipsis |
| 06:36.00 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio back |
| 06:36.03 | Orionshock | i have that feeling |
| 06:36.13 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:36.16 | Orionshock | tag being "[(if HasAura("Well Fed") then "WF":Green else "WF":Red end)]" |
| 06:36.32 | Ellipsis | mkay |
| 06:36.44 | Orionshock | getting syntax error from the lib |
| 06:36.44 | Ellipsis | using the Unit namespace and a unit kwarg? |
| 06:36.51 | Orionshock | aye |
| 06:36.59 | Ellipsis | and the tag works fine in dogtag help? |
| 06:37.02 | Orionshock | IE : DT:AddFontString(module.font, module.font:GetParent(), module.db.profile.tag, "Unit") ? |
| 06:37.08 | CIA-39 | 03julith 07julith * r70177 10GridManaBars/ (GMBLocale-zhTW.lua GridManaBars.toc): |
| 06:37.08 | CIA-39 | GridManaBars: |
| 06:37.08 | CIA-39 | - merged with rev. 60705 from trunk |
| 06:37.08 | CIA-39 | - updated toc version |
| 06:37.09 | CIA-39 | - updated file version |
| 06:37.27 | Orionshock | ah.. it does work there |
| 06:37.28 | Ellipsis | you're not specifying a kwargs table |
| 06:37.32 | Orionshock | -.- |
| 06:38.08 | Orionshock | are u saying that it should be {"Unit"} instead? |
| 06:38.11 | Ellipsis | ...no |
| 06:38.19 | Ellipsis | nevermind the kwargs, it's not required |
| 06:38.20 | Orionshock | scratches eyes out |
| 06:38.24 | Ellipsis | but the tag should be working on the player unit |
| 06:38.57 | Ellipsis | are you getting "Syntax error" printed in your font string, or an actual error being thrown? |
| 06:39.07 | Orionshock | bugsack error thrown |
| 06:39.13 | Ellipsis | pastey please |
| 06:39.30 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/85902 |
| 06:39.50 | Orionshock | im figuring it's a issue with how im getting the tag and passing it |
| 06:40.00 | Ellipsis | it looks like a lib issue actually |
| 06:40.03 | Ellipsis | let me take a look |
| 06:40.20 | Nevins | You have your own pastebin, lol thats great. |
| 06:40.50 | Nevins | Could someone tell me if these look wrong to you on first glance: |
| 06:40.59 | Nevins | http://pastebin.com/d4d6f7672 |
| 06:41.05 | Nevins | http://pastebin.com/d1860eaca |
| 06:41.10 | Nevins | http://pastebin.com/d36d91282 |
| 06:41.16 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: are the tags supposed to be passed as a single line string? |
| 06:41.27 | Nevins | Thats .lua .toc .xml there. |
| 06:42.00 | Arrowmaster | your not loading any files in your toc |
| 06:42.01 | durcyn | ewwwwww xml |
| 06:42.23 | Nevins | Durcyn can I get around xml? |
| 06:42.30 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 06:42.36 | durcyn | and you're dumping your function in the global namespace |
| 06:42.37 | Orionshock | Ellipsis: don't go bashing around code just yet... |
| 06:42.39 | Arrowmaster | CreateFrame() |
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| 06:43.08 | Orionshock | ... ace gui is adding extra junk to the string before it is getting passed to the lib... |
| 06:43.10 | Orionshock | fk... |
| 06:43.10 | Nevins | Xml = bad because it's unorganized? |
| 06:43.36 | Arrowmaster | it just hurts the eyes to read |
| 06:43.47 | Nevins | Is there a better format you can suggest? |
| 06:43.56 | Nevins | That is the format that my program uses. |
| 06:44.06 | Arrowmaster | you can create frames using CreateFrame() |
| 06:44.16 | Nevins | Where would I need to add that? |
| 06:44.21 | Arrowmaster | in the lua |
| 06:44.31 | Nevins | Just put it in at the top? |
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| 06:45.00 | Orionshock | Nevins: www.wowwiki.com/API_CreateFrame |
| 06:45.02 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: it's a bug |
| 06:45.08 | Orionshock | oh? ... |
| 06:45.12 | Orionshock | O.O |
| 06:45.20 | Ellipsis | yeah, it's not your fault |
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| 06:45.40 | Orionshock | sorry for letting you down.... |
| 06:45.40 | Arrowmaster | you would do like 'local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "MutinyShopForm", UIParent)' |
| 06:45.42 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 06:46.09 | Nevins | Would that allow me to do without the xml? |
| 06:46.10 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: you can get around the issue by passing kwargs though |
| 06:46.12 | Orionshock | ..ok off to other addons to try unbreaking them :D |
| 06:46.37 | Orionshock | "you can get around the issue by passing kwargs though", i can prolly translate greek better .... |
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| 06:47.27 | Arrowmaster | Nevins: yes that gets you a frame, then you can modify it with the wow api, such as you could then do 'frame:SetWidth(400)' 'frame:SetHeight(400)' and theres part of your xml done in lua |
| 06:47.28 | Orionshock | what do i need to do to pass kwargs? |
| 06:47.45 | Ellipsis | Orionshock: add another argument to your register font string that's something like { unit = "player" } |
| 06:48.00 | WobWork | Orionshock: python? |
| 06:48.12 | Ellipsis | if you don't intend to let the user select the unit for the tags to operate on, you probably shouldn't bother though |
| 06:48.13 | Orionshock | ohhh... |
| 06:48.16 | Ellipsis | I'll make sure ck fixes this |
| 06:48.28 | pastamancer | python would be my guess |
| 06:48.49 | Orionshock | the original table had that option... time to bring it back... |
| 06:49.09 | WobWork | afaik: Basically 'args' is a tuple with all the positional arguments, kwargs is |
| 06:49.12 | WobWork | a dictionary with all the named arguments. |
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| 06:52.32 | exor674 | sign you play WoW too much |
| 06:52.41 | exor674 | you see "Unknown" out of WoW |
| 06:52.53 | exor674 | and yet you still staer it for a few seconds waiting for it to load |
| 06:53.32 | Ellipsis | ahaha it's kind of a funny bug |
| 06:53.51 | Ellipsis | when the else section has a color modifier and no kwarg, instead of doing result = "WF" it does "WF" = result |
| 06:53.58 | Ellipsis | fail :P |
| 06:54.42 | Nevins | Can someone define the term metadata for me? Does that mean like string/int/any? |
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| 06:55.34 | Nevins | I'm used to unix scripting so the GUI stuff is kind of new to me. |
| 06:55.42 | Ellipsis | metadata is, uh, metadata |
| 06:55.43 | Ellipsis | context? |
| 06:56.54 | Nevins | Well I mean like a string is defined as a group of characters. What data does metadata hold. |
| 06:57.10 | Ellipsis | uh....what? |
| 06:57.13 | Ellipsis | metadata about what? |
| 06:57.19 | VonhintenHOME` | information about information |
| 06:57.20 | WobWork | metadata is data that refers to the object, not what the object is defined as |
| 06:57.52 | WobWork | so a table may have metadata, but that data is in reference to what the table can do, not what the table contains |
| 06:58.12 | WobWork | You totally need to read GEB =) |
| 06:58.20 | Nevins | GEB? |
| 06:58.24 | WobWork | and the Metadjinns |
| 06:58.29 | WobWork | Godel Escher Bach |
| 06:58.47 | Nevins | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:59.06 | WobWork | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach |
| 06:59.21 | CIA-39 | 037destiny * r70178 10FuBar_RecountFu/RecountFu_Options.lua: |
| 06:59.21 | CIA-39 | FuBar_RecountFu: |
| 06:59.21 | CIA-39 | - koKR Update |
| 07:01.27 | Nevins | WobWork so let me get this right metadata is like an object id number then? |
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| 07:01.45 | CIA-39 | 03orionshock * r70179 10StatBlocks_DogTag/StatBlocks_DogTag.lua: StatBlocks_DogTag: bugfix options table to work, alter usage of LibDogTag to work better. Thanks Ellipsis |
| 07:02.04 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r70180 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: |
| 07:02.04 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 07:02.04 | CIA-39 | - zhCN update. |
| 07:02.09 | WobWork | could be defined as such, yes |
| 07:02.32 | WobWork | hm |
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| 07:03.27 | WobWork | basically metadata is information about a resource |
| 07:03.55 | WobWork | like the metadata of a digital photgraph is the information like the camera model, settings etc |
| 07:04.08 | WobWork | it's got nothing specific to do with the photo's contents |
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| 07:05.39 | Orionshock | ok.. so if i pass an ID to GetSpellInfo() will it always return ?? |
| 07:05.48 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.52 | Nevins | So metadata is more or less used to identify attributes of an object in dos that would be simmilar to the attrib attributes like -h for hidden? |
| 07:06.09 | WobWork | yes |
| 07:06.10 | Ellipsis | assuming the ID corresponds to a spell it will always return the information about it, yes |
| 07:06.19 | Ellipsis | it doesn't depend on caching like GetItemInfo |
| 07:06.34 | Orionshock | is there a timeframe in the loading proccess when it will not return? |
| 07:07.10 | Ellipsis | I don't believe so, but you should probably doublecheck that |
| 07:07.21 | Orionshock | how? onupdate frame? |
| 07:08.18 | Ellipsis | um, I'd just do an inline GetSpellInfo call and make sure it returns |
| 07:08.25 | Ellipsis | doesn't get much earlier than that |
| 07:08.45 | Ellipsis | OnUpdates don't start getting fired until the game is rendered, so that'd be a pretty bad way to check |
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| 07:11.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Ellipsis gimme an opinion on this http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACETWO-68 |
| 07:11.11 | sag_ich_nicht | prx |
| 07:12.14 | Ellipsis | makes sense at first glance, but I don't pretend to know or care about acetab |
| 07:13.14 | sag_ich_nicht | kthx |
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| 07:25.29 | CIA-39 | 03julith * r70181 10GridManaBars/ (6 files): |
| 07:25.29 | CIA-39 | GridManaBars: Merged changes from branch "julith" to trunk. This changes the following: |
| 07:25.29 | CIA-39 | - separated the ManaBar as indicator from the actual Mana-status |
| 07:25.29 | CIA-39 | - improved performance and memory usage |
| 07:25.29 | CIA-39 | - added readme_on_problems.txt which explains the above changes |
| 07:26.14 | Nevins | Do I have to download ace before ace 3 or can I just grab the latest revision without upgrading from the old one? |
| 07:26.38 | Zhinjio | get ace3 |
| 07:27.02 | Zhinjio | do you mean for development purposes to use in your addons, or for running plugins? |
| 07:27.19 | Nevins | I am developing addons. |
| 07:27.35 | Zhinjio | well, ok. |
| 07:27.38 | Nevins | The tutorial tells me to download ace 3. |
| 07:27.45 | Zhinjio | ace (original version) is at this point completely deprecated. |
| 07:28.06 | Zhinjio | ace2 and librock are (relatively) similar in function, and are both stable frameworks. |
| 07:28.08 | Nevins | Open a browser and go to http://files.wowace.com/. Download Ace3. (Word for word what it says to do) |
| 07:28.13 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r70182 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 07:28.13 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 07:28.13 | CIA-39 | - fix error C/CombatEvents.lua.Line 2073(Thanks Ghostar & Heroxs). |
| 07:28.26 | Zhinjio | ace3 is the next revision of Ace ... and seeks to become the next framework. |
| 07:28.43 | Zhinjio | It should be noted that it is (mostly) working, and (relatively) stable, but still definitely in development |
| 07:28.44 | pastamancer | Julith: glad to see that finally merged to trunk |
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| 07:29.24 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 07:29.29 | sag_ich_nicht | installs GridManaBars |
| 07:29.41 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer will i have to bother Julith about percentages too? :> |
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| 07:29.53 | Nevins | Zhinjio I just want to make an addon with 2 buttons on it one closes the addon the other runs a SendChatMessage(" function |
| 07:29.54 | pastamancer | hp percentages? |
| 07:30.03 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: I have HP percentages already |
| 07:30.04 | sag_ich_nicht | work fine |
| 07:30.06 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 07:30.07 | sag_ich_nicht | thanks to you :) |
| 07:30.11 | sag_ich_nicht | i'm thinking of mana now! |
| 07:30.12 | Zhinjio | you don't need a framework for that. |
| 07:30.19 | Julith | pastamancer: yeah. While testing it I recognized a problem with Grid together with ManaBars. |
| 07:30.22 | pastamancer | if you want mana percentages, don't bug me! |
| 07:30.29 | pastamancer | Julith: oh? |
| 07:30.34 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: yeah i'm just asking |
| 07:30.36 | sag_ich_nicht | hi Julith. |
| 07:31.21 | Zhinjio | wow, 98% through phase 3 |
| 07:31.24 | Zhinjio | almost there! |
| 07:31.41 | Nevins | Phase 3? |
| 07:31.49 | Aiiane | SSO i'm assuming |
| 07:32.04 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 07:32.04 | Nevins | You raiding right now zhinjio? |
| 07:32.51 | Zhinjio | no, doing dailies, actually |
| 07:32.56 | Julith | The "SetWidth" methods in GridFrame.lua are guarded with "inCombatLockdown", but if you are in combatLockdown "f:SetAttribute("initial-width", width)" is called which actually causes a secure-frame-taint-error |
| 07:33.22 | pastamancer | I think jerry or someone else fixed that |
| 07:33.45 | pastamancer | you can set attributes when a frame is created via an init function passed to the header |
| 07:34.15 | Julith | I've updated grid 30 minutes ago and it still produces this "error" |
| 07:34.20 | pastamancer | hm |
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| 07:36.04 | Mushuk | hello |
| 07:36.05 | pastamancer | oh, I see |
| 07:36.18 | pastamancer | that's not what it should be doing |
| 07:37.06 | pastamancer | bug jerry about it on the forums :) |
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| 07:37.33 | Julith | ok |
| 07:38.36 | Zhinjio | gah, I accidentally took the same air strike twice in a row. |
| 07:38.45 | Zhinjio | I am *not* waiting for that to finish. |
| 07:39.03 | sag_ich_nicht | use the suicide orb if you're alliance |
| 07:39.15 | Zhinjio | the wut? |
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| 07:40.43 | sag_ich_nicht | i can't remember what it's called |
| 07:40.45 | sag_ich_nicht | quest item |
| 07:40.47 | sag_ich_nicht | that kills you |
| 07:41.06 | exor674 | likely can't be used on aflightpath |
| 07:41.17 | Olison | Mmm i'm looking for a minimap-button-border-hider addon... Is such a thing known to you? |
| 07:41.32 | Zhinjio | Olison: chinichilla for all your minimap needs |
| 07:41.32 | exor674 | mbb |
| 07:41.49 | Olison | Nowai :)) |
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| 07:41.58 | Olison | Anything else? |
| 07:42.30 | durcyn | as the man said, mbb. |
| 07:42.32 | Zhinjio | mbb is being kinda buggy ... not sure I'd recommend that right now. |
| 07:42.42 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a trinket |
| 07:43.25 | Olison | okay thanks, will check it out |
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| 07:43.49 | Zhinjio | er, chinchilla, rather. |
| 07:46.58 | Olison | Mh no, MBB doesn't hide the border :< |
| 07:47.11 | Olison | It's something different at all :< |
| 07:47.26 | Cheads | Squeenix ? |
| 07:48.03 | Olison | I have simpleminimap at use at the moment, was just looking for a really small haxxie to get rid of the borders.. mh well |
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| 07:48.19 | durcyn | write your own small stub addon then |
| 07:49.04 | deadlock | I have an addon that puts a tab over the raid tab, would it be in the lua or the .xml where i could move that at? |
| 07:49.04 | Zhinjio | Chinchilla will replace SMM AND hide the borders of the buttons. |
| 07:49.04 | Olison | exactly durcyn :) |
| 07:49.04 | Olison | ur great m8 |
| 07:49.20 | durcyn | as for chinchilla, i have a hard time expressing any love for an addon that blows up when UI scale < 0 |
| 07:49.53 | Zhinjio | my ui scale is .6, and its working fine for me. |
| 07:50.04 | Cheads | why would you have a ui scale of less than 0 ? |
| 07:50.12 | durcyn | er, less than one rather |
| 07:50.20 | durcyn | since 1 and 0 are so close to eachother on the keyboard >_> |
| 07:50.26 | Cheads | ;O) |
| 07:50.36 | Paene | Nevins |
| 07:50.40 | Paene | are you still here? |
| 07:50.42 | Nevins | Whats up I was afk |
| 07:50.46 | Nevins | I was reading. |
| 07:50.56 | durcyn | Zhinjio: it's inconsistent. usually happens with the quest tracker |
| 07:51.00 | Paene | I'm looking at your pastebin stuff |
| 07:51.06 | Paene | first thing I noticed |
| 07:51.09 | Paene | in your .toc file |
| 07:51.18 | durcyn | Zhinjio: same deal as CowTip's cursor offset config afaict |
| 07:51.19 | Zhinjio | <-- doesn't use blizz's quest tracker |
| 07:51.20 | Paene | you don't have any files listed to load |
| 07:51.50 | Zhinjio | man, I don't know. I use cowtip too, and don't have problems with that either |
| 07:52.07 | durcyn | Zhinjio: you've used it lately? |
| 07:52.13 | Zhinjio | yeah, right now. |
| 07:52.13 | Nevins | The table of contents file doesn't list .lua .xml? |
| 07:52.15 | Zhinjio | why? |
| 07:52.18 | Nevins | Gah |
| 07:52.23 | Paene | Nevins: after "## LoadOnDemand: 0" you need to put what files you want the addon to load... |
| 07:52.25 | Paene | one sec |
| 07:52.28 | durcyn | Zhinjio: because i'm curious if it's just me, tbh |
| 07:52.59 | Zhinjio | I run disembedded. but thats shouldn't change anything |
| 07:53.04 | NivFreak | NeoTron: http://ace.pastey.net/85905 |
| 07:53.07 | Nevins | Paene I didn't write that manually I used a program to write it for me. Personally I would rather write each line of code. |
| 07:53.20 | NivFreak | NeoTron: also, you broke a few things in MM |
| 07:53.42 | Paene | Nevins: http://ace.pastey.net/85906 |
| 07:53.51 | Paene | it should have files to load listed like that |
| 07:53.59 | Paene | otherwise, WoW has no clue what files you want it to read |
| 07:54.33 | Paene | just as a reference |
| 07:54.33 | deadlock | I have an addon that is covering my 'raid' tab, where would the code be for the positioning. |
| 07:54.36 | Paene | lemme pastey my toc file |
| 07:54.52 | Nevins | Okay but addon.xml should be changed to the xml name right? |
| 07:55.07 | Nevins | Otherwise it's loading an non-existant file. |
| 07:55.24 | Paene | yeah |
| 07:55.25 | Paene | http://ace.pastey.net/85907 |
| 07:55.33 | Paene | there's an example toc for ya |
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| 07:56.22 | durcyn | deadlock: look for :SetPoint |
| 07:56.35 | deadlock | k |
| 07:56.41 | Paene | Nevins I'm assuming you're not using WoWAce libraries right? |
| 07:57.00 | Nevins | No. I'm not I haven't started using wowace yet. |
| 07:57.15 | Paene | kk |
| 07:57.21 | Nevins | I started reading the tutorial I have them downloaded but they are not in use. |
| 07:57.33 | Paene | definitely check out those tutorials, that's how I got started |
| 07:57.42 | Paene | but don't be afraid to ask questions either |
| 07:57.57 | Paene | (even if people sometimes yell at you) :-p |
| 07:57.58 | Arrowmaster | theres really no good tutorials for writing graphical frames from scratch |
| 07:58.06 | Paene | yeah |
| 07:58.13 | Nevins | Any chance of getting someone on vent to talk to me? It would make the research time less long. |
| 07:58.16 | Arrowmaster | most of the tutorials youll find are extremely old |
| 07:58.31 | Nevins | Well I'm a flash developer if I learn I could write one for you. |
| 07:58.45 | Paene | Nevins: I would, but I'm actually about to go to bed |
| 07:58.48 | Paene | it's 4am here |
| 07:58.49 | deadlock | http://pastebin.com/m2b328e00 What am i looking for, that's changed currently that would overwrite the GA tab ontop of the current raid tab. |
| 07:58.52 | Paene | and I have class at 9:30! |
| 07:59.01 | Nevins | It's 3:00 here :p |
| 07:59.08 | Nevins | I just don't sleep. |
| 07:59.12 | Paene | lol |
| 07:59.17 | Paene | I tend not to |
| 07:59.27 | Paene | I can hop on quick and answer a few questions if ya want |
| 07:59.33 | Nevins | Okay. |
| 07:59.34 | Paene | PM me the vent info |
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| 08:00.31 | Nevins | Done. |
| 08:00.39 | Paene | hm... |
| 08:00.43 | Paene | I didn't get any message |
| 08:00.45 | Paene | lol |
| 08:00.51 | Nevins | Send me a pm then. |
| 08:00.54 | Paene | k |
| 08:01.01 | charon | morning |
| 08:01.10 | Paene | get it? |
| 08:01.13 | Nevins | I didn't get one from you paene. |
| 08:01.24 | Paene | meh, that's what I get for using Pidgin for IRC |
| 08:01.40 | Arrowmaster | you cant send pms on this network unless your registered |
| 08:01.50 | Paene | that could be it too! |
| 08:01.54 | Nevins | I see. Hmm. |
| 08:02.02 | Paene | pastey it? |
| 08:02.03 | Paene | lol |
| 08:02.05 | Paene | or post it here |
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| 08:02.07 | Paene | if no-one minds |
| 08:02.39 | Arrowmaster | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/oRA2/Participant/Ready.lua |
| 08:02.46 | Nevins | Join another irc channel I'll send you info there. |
| 08:02.47 | Arrowmaster | theres a good example of a simple frame |
| 08:02.57 | Paene | channel paene |
| 08:03.52 | CIA-39 | 03sayclub * r70183 10GridManaBars/GMBLocale-koKR.lua: |
| 08:03.52 | CIA-39 | GridManaBars: |
| 08:03.52 | CIA-39 | - Update koKR local |
| 08:04.33 | deadlock | Guilded or Guild Alliance, is there anything simlilar that is actively worked on? |
| 08:04.51 | Zhinjio | durcyn: not sure what to tell you. but I'm definitely not seeing the level of fail you're describing. |
| 08:08.00 | deadlock | if i update lua, and reloadui, will it be realitime or do i have to close and reopen wow |
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| 08:08.18 | JJSheets | realtime. |
| 08:08.31 | durcyn | Zhinjio: that's good then. it's been flaky as hell for me with a scale of 0.8 |
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| 08:09.12 | deadlock | with base ui whats the reload command |
| 08:09.20 | deadlock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.21 | deadlock | <.< |
| 08:09.22 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.25 | Zhinjio | ... /console reloadui |
| 08:09.26 | Nocts | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:09.27 | Nocts | er |
| 08:09.30 | JJSheets | lol |
| 08:09.31 | Nocts | ReloadUI() |
| 08:11.19 | deadlock | i guess ill keep popping in values til i figure what changes the tab :-) |
| 08:12.08 | Zhinjio | I have come to an important conclusion. |
| 08:12.15 | Zhinjio | Everyone needs more Daft Punk in their lives. |
| 08:12.27 | durcyn | deadlock: or you could look up SetPoint on wowwiki and realize that the y position is the fifth argument |
| 08:12.36 | exor674 | deadlock: however if you update .toc, you need to reopen |
| 08:14.03 | durcyn | deadlock: assuming the tab is using a named frame, you can run /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) to find the object name to run :SetPoint on. |
| 08:14.21 | durcyn | deadlock: but if it's xml, you're on your own =P |
| 08:14.45 | Arrowmaster | all xml frames are named afaik |
| 08:14.50 | JJSheets | night ya'll |
| 08:14.55 | deadlock | Its in the lua...FriendsFrameTab5 |
| 08:15.35 | durcyn | that sounds more like the raid tab name, what exactly are you trying to move? |
| 08:15.50 | deadlock | Ya, this addon covers the raid tab |
| 08:15.57 | deadlock | i'm trying to just move it to a dif tab |
| 08:16.02 | durcyn | does the addon have a name |
| 08:16.05 | durcyn | or is that a secret |
| 08:16.06 | deadlock | Guild Alliance |
| 08:16.08 | deadlock | I said before |
| 08:16.10 | deadlock | lol |
| 08:16.11 | deadlock | SOrry |
| 08:16.26 | deadlock | Everything appears to still work on it. |
| 08:16.37 | deadlock | Besides the fact that the tab, covers the raid tab. |
| 08:19.12 | durcyn | remove 780-783 and 785 in Guild_Alliance.lua |
| 08:19.20 | durcyn | and holy shit that's some ugly code |
| 08:19.37 | deadlock | remove those lines? |
| 08:19.58 | durcyn | it's already got logic to offset the tabs if CTRA is loaded, take out the check and have it put its crap on tab 6 |
| 08:20.34 | deadlock | ok so remove lines 780-783 and line 785? |
| 08:20.38 | CIA-39 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r70184 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: kill the fade onupdate in SetTimer(). |
| 08:20.58 | durcyn | right. rip out the ifcheck block and just have it call GA_TAB_CREATE(6) |
| 08:21.26 | CIA-39 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r70185 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: use SetTexCoord to avoid squishing the bar texture. |
| 08:21.45 | deadlock | durcyn: reloading now |
| 08:21.58 | deadlock | durcyn: Works. Your the man. |
| 08:22.08 | deadlock | I wish the author would actually update the mod. |
| 08:22.10 | deadlock | :-( |
| 08:23.15 | CIA-39 | 03aviana * r70186 10FuBar_HonorFu/HonorFu.lua: |
| 08:23.15 | CIA-39 | FuBar_HonorFu: |
| 08:23.15 | CIA-39 | - Fix for total honor display |
| 08:23.49 | deadlock | very cool |
| 08:23.55 | deadlock | durcyn: Thanks so much |
| 08:24.12 | deadlock | FYI someone should make a addon like guildalliance+guilded |
| 08:24.33 | durcyn | what the devil does it do anyway? |
| 08:24.54 | deadlock | It allows you to have multiple guilds share on gchat, as well as have a combined guild list |
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| 08:25.00 | deadlock | that allows right click inspection |
| 08:25.06 | deadlock | and a few other things |
| 08:25.18 | deadlock | guilded was better, it allowed for like a guild auction |
| 08:25.18 | durcyn | oh. sounds horrible. |
| 08:25.20 | dieck_ | hm, for combined raid groups, or what? |
| 08:25.43 | deadlock | For guilds that like having multple guilds for gbanks and the like |
| 08:25.46 | dieck_ | do a /join raidchatchannel on all members, and you'll have your combined chat |
| 08:25.52 | deadlock | or to keep raiders seperate from pvp |
| 08:26.02 | dieck_ | put all non-guildies in die friends list and you have your "combined guild list". |
| 08:26.06 | dieck_ | there, all built-in |
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| 08:26.21 | deadlock | You can only have so many friends. |
| 08:26.54 | deadlock | One of our guilds has 94, another has 70, and the 3rd has 114. Its to many to have on friends. |
| 08:27.06 | deadlock | Ones pvp, ones leveling, and 3rd raiding. |
| 08:27.26 | dieck_ | lol, what if someones does pvp and raiding with the same char? |
| 08:27.44 | CIA-39 | 03kergoth * r70187 10TickTock/ (25 files in 9 dirs): TickTock: initial import of a simple LibBars-1.0 based energy ticker (for rogues that don't like button mashing.. mostly mut). No options yet. |
| 08:27.46 | deadlock | They can. It's just over all category. |
| 08:27.55 | deadlock | You can do all 3 with guildies. not a big deal. |
| 08:28.02 | deadlock | It's just nice having 3 guildbanks. |
| 08:28.26 | deadlock | As well, as some Ochat seperation. :-) all controled by each guild indivicual rankings |
| 08:28.29 | Arrowmaster | you can have 3 guildbanks without having everybody in 3 different guilds |
| 08:28.56 | deadlock | Ya but this way, we can have 3 guild each with a focus. |
| 08:29.00 | Zhinjio | ooo... Elkano : something I've never seen before. I just got that whacky thing to happen with my bar while applying the weapon enchant (bar creation) |
| 08:29.01 | deadlock | Each gbank has that same focus. |
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| 08:29.29 | Arrowmaster | personally ive always hated guilds that have more than one guild, worst idea ever to me |
| 08:29.52 | ramoz | they should add more guildbank tabs really |
| 08:30.55 | deadlock | I like it. I get to keep my guild and all the work/money ive put into it, AND get the benefits of having more people for instances/raids/pvp etc. |
| 08:31.03 | ncd|Aileen | mh, get your own Guildbank? :p |
| 08:31.09 | deadlock | I do. |
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| 08:31.15 | deadlock | My guilds one of the 3. |
| 08:31.34 | ncd|Aileen | got a own guildbank for my alts, storing pots etc :/ |
| 08:31.39 | dieck_ | my mule has his own guildbank :) |
| 08:31.41 | ramoz | ncd|Aileen: me too |
| 08:32.04 | Arrowmaster | i snaged the guild name <Banker> on my server |
| 08:32.13 | dieck_ | i got Guild Bank :) |
| 08:32.26 | deadlock | Oh well. I'm sorry we all dont play WoW the same. durcyn thanks for your help. |
| 08:32.49 | deadlock | Good luck All. |
| 08:33.33 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r70188 10ZOMGBuffs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 08:33.33 | CIA-39 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 08:33.33 | CIA-39 | - Fixed 2 bugs with ZOMGBuffs/PallyPower integration (Setting of exceptions from ZOMG -> PP, and Assignments from PP not reaching Blessings module even though they were shown in Manager). |
| 08:34.18 | Dranor | several friends made fun of the "fanclub" guilds by taking all the guildtags for personal guildbanks |
| 08:34.59 | Dranor | btw it's somewhat silly to see "dark requiem fanclub" when you did not ask it |
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| 08:40.27 | Mikk | snagged <Mule> |
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| 08:43.04 | durcyn | i've got <Storage> on mine iirc ;) |
| 08:44.43 | ramoz | mm |
| 08:44.49 | ramoz | guilds should be more expensive |
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| 08:52.46 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r70189 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: |
| 08:52.46 | CIA-39 | LibBars-1.0: |
| 08:52.46 | CIA-39 | - Rearrange code a bit |
| 08:52.46 | CIA-39 | - Make reusing bars suck less |
| 08:52.47 | CIA-39 | - Make bar fade/flash invoked by the group, as opposed to by the bar's UpdateTimer (lets standalone bars not flash/fade!) |
| 08:52.48 | CIA-39 | - Added support for custom sort funcs for groups |
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| 08:57.43 | CIA-39 | 03kergoth * r70190 10TickTock/addon.lua: TickTock: fix for druid. |
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| 09:15.03 | Nandini | my alts are all in my guild named <Alt> |
| 09:16.43 | Nandini | i originally had a guild called <Nandini's Minion> but i was asked to disband and rename it by a GM |
| 09:16.51 | Elkano | there is no such thing as full in Japan... http://de.rofl.to/pendler-in-japan |
| 09:17.32 | Nandini | they should just not allow you to use "Pet" or "Minion" in guild names if it's considered an exploit for pvp. i hope no one is trying to target me by my guild tag anyways |
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| 09:19.09 | odt | well, they still allow for pets to have the same name as their owner |
| 09:19.43 | Nandini | it's not like i did arenas on my alts or anything, but apparently someone complained |
| 09:19.58 | Lywellyn | PVP exploit? How? |
| 09:19.58 | Nandini | i thought it was a clever name, since my alts were pretty much my minions, doing my gathering and crafting for me |
| 09:20.53 | Lywellyn | I rather like the idea |
| 09:21.14 | Nandini | plus it let people easily identify my alts as being mine :) |
| 09:21.32 | Nandini | they could just do a who for anyone in the guild to see if i was on |
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| 09:22.33 | Nandini | this was back before guild banks, can GMs rename guilds now? or do they still make the guild disband if it has a questionable name? |
| 09:23.08 | syeren | They rename your guild to go "Guild of [Gmaster]" |
| 09:23.15 | syeren | And you can submit a ticket to have it changed. |
| 09:23.47 | Nandini | i wish they had just done that to mine, it was a pain reinviting my alts back to my alt guild |
| 09:24.07 | Nandini | that was a long time ago tho |
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| 09:29.15 | Esine | Nandini, what kind of "questionable" name did your guild have? |
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| 09:30.29 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Ping |
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| 09:31.49 | Esine | oh doh I didn't read.. |
| 09:31.50 | Esine | nvm |
| 09:32.34 | CIA-39 | 03jerry * r70191 10Talented_Data/ (4 files): Talented_Data: regenerate |
| 09:34.40 | CIA-39 | 03jerry * r70192 10Talented/ (Locales/enUS.lua Locales/frFR.lua ui/base.lua ui/trees.lua): |
| 09:34.40 | CIA-39 | Talented: |
| 09:34.40 | CIA-39 | _ Add a tooltip to the template name edit box. |
| 09:34.40 | CIA-39 | _ Allow the code that create the UI to be garbage collected once the UI has been created. |
| 09:42.49 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 09:42.50 | Xinhuan | http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e354/cherubsmummy/WoWScrnShot_041308_005411.jpg |
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| 09:46.30 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: That's what I'd call effectively Rickrolled ;) |
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| 09:48.51 | Olison | Calling for all iptables pros: http://filth.fireglow.de/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=4 10 bucks for somewhat simple routing setup |
| 09:48.55 | Olison | big noob :< |
| 09:49.12 | starlon | Anyone know which addon adds "Price per unit" in this screenshot? http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5362/wowscrnshot041708024200kx5.jpg |
| 09:50.18 | Ellipsis | that looks like the default UI one |
| 09:50.37 | starlon | Really? Hmm wonder why mine doesn't have it but hers does |
| 09:50.47 | Ellipsis | it does when you're at the AH |
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| 09:52.58 | starlon | she's not at the AH |
| 09:53.01 | starlon | o.O |
| 09:53.52 | Arrowmaster | its probably some old addon |
| 09:54.11 | starlon | yeah probably |
| 09:54.16 | starlon | she says she runs 3 addons |
| 09:54.22 | dieck_ | yeah, <gm>delete your interfaces/ wtf/ and cache/ directory and try again</gm> :) |
| 09:54.27 | starlon | so I really don't know |
| 09:54.32 | starlon | haha |
| 09:54.43 | Arrowmaster | i remember some really old addons used to constantly have problems with money displays added to gametooltip sticking around on future tooltips |
| 09:57.39 | Arrowmaster | Olison: perty sure you can do that without iptables |
| 09:58.08 | Arrowmaster | infact i dont know how you would do it with iptables |
| 09:58.24 | Olison | Yeah, someone just told me the same :> |
| 09:59.29 | Arrowmaster | although ive never messed with vpn stuff |
| 09:59.45 | Arrowmaster | i tend to just abuse ssh when i need a proxy |
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| 10:18.11 | charon | hmm. i get about 480k combatlog lines in 4 hours of raiding. that means about 33 events/second. so on a slow machine, C_L_E_U will even fire more often than OnUpdate |
| 10:18.37 | charon | (in fact it's even more than 33 in combat because that's just a rough estimate counting downtimes and breaks) |
| 10:19.03 | Mikk | Mhm.. On any kind of "average" machine you're looking at ~15 FPS when all hell breaks lose |
| 10:19.13 | Mikk | And that estimate up there is 50+ events per second |
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| 10:24.27 | Arrowmaster | i think its still the same amount of events than it used to be, but more OnEvent handlers getting fired because theyre all lumped together |
| 10:24.49 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70193 10Threat-2.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): resync with trunk |
| 10:24.59 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70194 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: |
| 10:24.59 | CIA-39 | Threat-2.0: special-case GetPlayerAtPosition(guid, pos) for pos=1,2 |
| 10:24.59 | CIA-39 | This separately handles GetPlayerAtPosition in O(n) time for pos=1,2 |
| 10:24.59 | CIA-39 | so that there is now a cheap way to get the second-most threatening |
| 10:25.00 | CIA-39 | player. |
| 10:25.02 | Vangual | hmm, 1.1 mio lines for two raidnights a 4.5 hours, interesting that lines don't vary that much |
| 10:25.08 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70195 10Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: |
| 10:25.08 | CIA-39 | Threat-2.0: Attempt to optimize C_L_E_UNFILTERED handling. |
| 10:25.08 | CIA-39 | Drycoded. Testers and fixes welcome |
| 10:25.20 | Arrowmaster | which reminds me |
| 10:25.24 | CIA-39 | 03totalpackage * r70196 10StellarUF/ (7 files): |
| 10:25.24 | CIA-39 | StellarUF: |
| 10:25.24 | CIA-39 | - added player's totem timers (can be disabled) |
| 10:25.24 | CIA-39 | - reduce memory usage and code cleanup |
| 10:25.25 | CIA-39 | - should properly show/hide party frames in raid after reloadui |
| 10:25.32 | charon | is out for lunch |
| 10:25.36 | charon | and do test, please ;) |
| 10:25.55 | Arrowmaster | we had over 900 MB of combatlogs up on our ftp we had to take down because somebody set the disk quota to 1 GB |
| 10:26.23 | Arrowmaster | i still need to take all those files and unzip them all then make one large 7z archive |
| 10:26.42 | Arrowmaster | cant wait to see the compression improvement from that |
| 10:27.43 | Vangual | also try rzip for comparison if you can handle it :) |
| 10:27.56 | Orionshock | oh man.... now i feel like a noob.... |
| 10:28.06 | Orionshock | im raid leading and proxy pull the pat before FLK's room |
| 10:28.24 | Arrowmaster | new combat logs should compress even more |
| 10:28.31 | Mikk | no.. seriously... not drycodes in Threat-2.0 :-( |
| 10:28.36 | Mikk | Omen is losing users as is |
| 10:28.43 | Fisker- | touches Mikk on his chest |
| 10:28.46 | Arrowmaster | it is? |
| 10:28.50 | Arrowmaster | since when? |
| 10:28.56 | Fisker- | it's a branch? |
| 10:29.01 | Srosh | Isn't that in a branch= |
| 10:29.02 | Srosh | *? |
| 10:29.12 | Mikk | Hups sorry, misread the message |
| 10:29.14 | Orionshock | people bitching yes... but i think it's the distro method |
| 10:29.29 | Mikk | It's mostly the interop issues that popped up after 2.4 |
| 10:29.39 | Mikk | And prot pally not being right still doesn't help |
| 10:29.47 | SunTsu | I really hope that my Voidwalker isn't called "Unknown" anymore. I used to like when he showed up in Omen |
| 10:29.55 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.06 | Arrowmaster | hmm lets see, omen #1 on curse hot downloads...... KTM not listed...... |
| 10:30.12 | Arrowmaster | i see no problems here |
| 10:30.24 | Mikk | Yeah but read the omen comments on curse |
| 10:30.27 | Mikk | Some very unhappy campers there |
| 10:30.43 | Mikk | Granted, as always you only see the unhappy ones |
| 10:30.44 | Fisker- | Mikk can't you roll horde on my server, level to 70 and put me in queue? |
| 10:31.07 | Fisker- | and they are all made by the same user |
| 10:31.09 | Fisker- | (i.e. kenco) |
| 10:31.13 | Mikk | no |
| 10:31.30 | Arrowmaster | they are made by people that dont even use threat meters |
| 10:31.30 | Mikk | People whose guilds swapped from omen to ktm because they couldnt get omen working |
| 10:31.52 | Mikk | And please make sense. How the hell can you not use threat meters and be unhappy about how omen is working? |
| 10:32.40 | Vangual | are curse hot downloads judged by downloads or by that user rating? |
| 10:32.47 | Mikk | downloads |
| 10:32.50 | Fisker- | don't think we'll see too much more of omen not working |
| 10:32.51 | Mikk | and updating once a day helps |
| 10:33.05 | Fisker- | it was the 2 protocol changes that were bad |
| 10:33.12 | Vangual | because people getting told "if you don' see me update your ormen" kinda skews that |
| 10:33.16 | Fisker- | but rather then than later |
| 10:33.28 | Mikk | Why am I arguing with you >.< |
| 10:33.31 | Vangual | omen* |
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| 10:33.40 | Antiarc | As far as I can tell that commit was made to a branch |
| 10:33.51 | Antiarc | charon is good about not committing to trunk without extensive testing |
| 10:33.54 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 10:33.59 | Fisker- | mikk just misread |
| 10:34.08 | Fisker- | oh |
| 10:34.10 | Fisker- | he left |
| 10:34.40 | Fisker- | I probably caused a couple of guildmembers to reconsider their guild as well :D |
| 10:34.51 | Fisker- | Our guild is mostly casual but we have a raiding part |
| 10:35.07 | Fisker- | So some of the "casuals" wanted that we helped them raid SSC and TK |
| 10:35.10 | Fisker- | like as a rule |
| 10:35.37 | Fisker- | And another casual defended us saying that it was lame to force people |
| 10:36.06 | Fisker- | Then he said something like "That's an elitist arrogant opinion, don't ask what the guild can do for you, ask what you can do for the guild" |
| 10:36.26 | Fisker- | and i went like "Exactly, don't ask us to go down in lower-tier raid instances to pull you through it, do it yourself" |
| 10:36.29 | Fisker- | he got mad :D |
| 10:42.28 | Xan3 | i can see number of download of my mod? |
| 10:42.42 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: I have a question about Link Hover in Chatter? |
| 10:42.49 | Antiarc | Sure |
| 10:43.05 | Xan3 | were? |
| 10:43.10 | Xan3 | where? |
| 10:43.16 | Lywellyn | I'm not sure to which author I should go first, so I decided I'd ask you as you're in here. |
| 10:44.08 | haste | Xan3: if you are thinking of files.wowace.com or the SVN, you can't :) |
| 10:45.14 | Xan3 | k |
| 10:45.23 | Lywellyn | I have EQCompare, Auctioneer, and Rating Buster that modifies tooltips. Auctioneer's tooltip additions don't show. (I ask it now, and now I think I know I should ask them ><) |
| 10:45.44 | Arrowmaster | EQCompare is dead |
| 10:45.52 | Arrowmaster | for over a year |
| 10:46.02 | Lywellyn | Arrowmaster: Still works though, but that's not my question. |
| 10:46.13 | Arrowmaster | its still dead |
| 10:46.27 | Arrowmaster | could be causing you problems without it actually erroring and you would never know it |
| 10:46.39 | Arrowmaster | since nobody will ever fix it |
| 10:46.53 | ramoz | Lywellyn: i would suggest trying out tekKompare instead of EQcompare |
| 10:47.05 | Arrowmaster | or Mirror |
| 10:47.11 | Arrowmaster | (i use tekKompare) |
| 10:47.41 | Ellipsis | I use the shift key |
| 10:47.42 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
| 10:48.02 | ramoz | btw, does Link Hover show tooltips when you hover over links? cause tekKompare does that too, so you can disable that module |
| 10:48.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah link hover does |
| 10:48.23 | Arrowmaster | but they anchor to different places |
| 10:48.27 | Zhinjio | licks Ellipsis |
| 10:48.44 | Zhinjio | I like that way that rolls off the tongue. |
| 10:48.47 | Zhinjio | I mean, literally |
| 10:49.24 | Lywellyn | Okay, advice noted. EQCompare disabled, 'problem' still there, and shift doesn't seem to work on hovered tooltips either. |
| 10:49.33 | Antiarc | Link hover uses a different event than auctioneer |
| 10:49.44 | Antiarc | You'll just want to click the link to get auctioneer/compare stuff |
| 10:49.47 | CIA-39 | 03totalpackage * r70197 10StellarUF/playertotem.lua: |
| 10:49.47 | CIA-39 | StellarUF: |
| 10:49.47 | CIA-39 | - late tweaks to totem timers |
| 10:49.55 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: That's about what I figured. Alright, thanks. :) |
| 10:50.46 | Arrowmaster | hmm 7am... night all |
| 10:52.33 | iKON | lol |
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| 10:54.19 | snirks | Hi men, is there an Ace based weapon swing timer around? |
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| 10:55.08 | Bruners | quartz |
| 10:55.35 | Baghwan | yep only one i know is quartz |
| 10:56.02 | snirks | ok thanks |
| 10:58.37 | Baghwan | hmm ok also looking for a name, might be going crazy, what would allow me to change the default chat format, its [player name]:"message", want "message":[player name], you cannot do it in prat i think |
| 10:59.25 | Baghwan | chatter does not have either |
| 11:00.23 | Xan3 | same question |
| 11:00.51 | Xan3 | tekkub are discontinued fubar_duratek |
| 11:01.11 | Xan3 | i have upgraded that mod |
| 11:01.27 | Xan3 | tebuk want that i create new mod |
| 11:01.37 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r70198 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Added Combustion to Mage spells in self buffs module. |
| 11:01.39 | Xan3 | so? |
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| 11:03.33 | ramoz | so |
| 11:03.42 | ramoz | rename it? |
| 11:04.00 | ramoz | i mean, make your own |
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| 11:04.10 | Xan3 | ok, how? |
| 11:05.44 | Xan3 | i delete .svn folder? |
| 11:05.49 | Xan3 | and? |
| 11:09.44 | ramoz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:12.44 | Hjalte | ~seen elsia |
| 11:12.46 | purl | elsia <i=elsiarow@p57A27C96.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 1h 15m 22s ago, saying: 'basically it makes no sense just staring at the code'. |
| 11:14.48 | xemacs | hi guys |
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| 11:28.40 | Hjalte | Is there anywhere that I can see what tradeskills are popular among what classes? Like a webpage that manipulates with armory data |
| 11:30.03 | Orionshock | Xinhuan: wrt BankItems Guild Bank, there is a stray fontstring when moving the frame around, one that says "Tab# (%date%)" |
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| 11:32.43 | Hjalte | Could any leatherworker tell me, which type of leatherworking is for spell casters - and If you *have* to choose one when you level up? |
| 11:33.41 | CIA-39 | 03kunda * r70199 10ClosetGnome_Zone/ (ClosetGnome_Zone.toc ClosetGnome_ZoneLocale-deDE.lua): |
| 11:33.41 | CIA-39 | ClosetGnome_Zone: |
| 11:33.41 | CIA-39 | - toc Interface 20400 |
| 11:33.41 | CIA-39 | - added deDE |
| 11:34.08 | SunTsu | Hjalte: You don't have to, anymore |
| 11:34.43 | Hjalte | SunTsu: Are there any difference between them except for the wearable items? |
| 11:34.46 | Bruners | its elemental leatherworking isnt it ? |
| 11:35.01 | SunTsu | Hjalte: Just different recipes |
| 11:35.09 | ramoz | earth wind and fire! |
| 11:35.10 | SunTsu | Hjalte: http://www.wowwiki.com/Leatherworking |
| 11:35.12 | Bruners | you can "respec" it later anyway |
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| 11:36.36 | SunTsu | Bruners: Elemental is for melee, my feral druid is elemental leather worker |
| 11:36.51 | SunTsu | For casters tribal leatherworking would be best, IMO |
| 11:37.27 | charon | mikk: re earlier, i probably make more coding mistakes than the Gods in here, but i know the difference between trying to help and committing suicide ;p |
| 11:37.52 | CIA-39 | 03kunda * r70200 10ClosetGnome_Mount/ (ClosetGnome_Mount.lua ClosetGnome_Mount.toc): ClosetGnome_Mount: deDE update |
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| 11:40.04 | mitch0 | dumdidum |
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| 11:51.54 | charon | oh. it might help to trust tab completion more. /facepalm |
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| 11:57.31 | nekoh | is it somehow possible to convert the timestamp(from new combatlog events) format to the same format GetTime() returns? |
| 12:01.39 | charon | i think GetTime() is the system uptime, so you could try setting a one-time C_L_E_U event to establish the time at which the system was booted, i.e. the reference point for GetTime() in timestamp terms |
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| 12:22.39 | CIA-39 | 03yleaf * r70201 10GridManaBars/GMBLocale-zhCN.lua: GridManaBars: zhCN update |
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| 12:30.33 | Xan3 | need same info for create new mod .... svn info |
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| 12:32.59 | Xan3 | ckknight_ , how can add mod in svn? |
| 12:33.28 | Josh_Borke | Xan3: you need to get an svn account |
| 12:33.38 | Josh_Borke | Xan3: there are plenty of documents on the wiki without you bothering a random op about it |
| 12:33.58 | Xan3 | i have svn account |
| 12:34.13 | kenlyric | if you don't know how |
| 12:34.13 | Xan3 | i need commands |
| 12:34.15 | kenlyric | you probably shouldn't |
| 12:34.36 | Josh_Borke | Xan3: did you read the wiki? |
| 12:34.47 | Xan3 | i go |
| 12:35.08 | kenlyric | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:SVN |
| 12:35.10 | kenlyric | have at it |
| 12:35.19 | Josh_Borke | you should not have gotten an SVN account until you read the wiki |
| 12:35.27 | luxus | cool the first addon that use libbars :D |
| 12:36.01 | charon | Xan3: may i also suggest you toy around with SVN on a local repository to see how it reacts to your commands |
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| 12:37.07 | kenlyric | awesome, I think the author of gridmanabars implements half of my mod. |
| 12:37.34 | chexsum | nekoh, you could use time() to figure it out |
| 12:37.35 | sag_ich_nicht | [14:35] <Josh_Borke> you should not have beeen given an SVN account until you read the wiki <--fixed |
| 12:38.00 | Xan3 | i have sign svn rules |
| 12:38.27 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 12:39.01 | Josh_Borke | Xan3: and what are they? |
| 12:39.21 | chexsum | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Idiots |
| 12:40.47 | Xan3 | simply import? |
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| 12:41.01 | chexsum | rtfm |
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| 12:43.43 | chexsum | ponders switching back to disc tanking spec ; |
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| 12:45.07 | chexsum | is there any class that has shaman on farm status ? |
| 12:45.23 | Esine | what |
| 12:45.30 | ramoz | every class? |
| 12:46.30 | chexsum | well shammies 3 shot my 495 res full disc priest - wondering if anyone has an easy time with them |
| 12:47.21 | odt | yeah, even the addition 15% mitigation shadowform gives doesnt help much against them |
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| 12:47.39 | ramoz | fear them :O |
| 12:47.46 | odt | yeah, thats the only chance |
| 12:47.47 | ramoz | just be sure to kill the tremor totem |
| 12:47.49 | odt | fear and keep distance |
| 12:48.07 | odt | killing tremor is not an option tho, cause that's the time it takes them to kill you |
| 12:48.17 | ramoz | not if you fear them :O |
| 12:48.25 | chexsum | tremors never worked imo but they usually trinket fear and come stomp me |
| 12:49.05 | chexsum | its so bad when i see a shamn in a bg ill take the next queue |
| 12:49.13 | ramoz | rofl |
| 12:49.29 | CIA-39 | 03Kriery * r70202 10FuBar_DurabilityFu/DurabilityFuLocale-koKR.lua: FuBar_DurabilityFu: Fix koKR locale |
| 12:50.02 | CIA-39 | 03philosound * r70203 10Parrot/Code/Parrot.lua: Parrot: - simple deDE fix by addying it to fallback, note though it has to be taken out if someone sometime does a deDE translation |
| 12:50.54 | CIA-39 | 03xan * r70204 10FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu/ (. Core.lua FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu.toc embeds.xml icon.tga): |
| 12:50.54 | CIA-39 | FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu |
| 12:50.54 | CIA-39 | - initial commit |
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| 12:51.32 | Xan3 | k |
| 12:52.50 | CIA-39 | 03xan * r70205 10FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu/: |
| 12:52.50 | CIA-39 | FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu |
| 12:52.50 | CIA-39 | - add externals |
| 12:53.18 | sag_ich_nicht | ~makefunof Ellipsis |
| 12:53.26 | sag_ich_nicht | purl, fuck you |
| 12:53.27 | purl | I have a headache |
| 12:53.58 | sag_ich_nicht | ~ridicule Ellipsis |
| 12:53.59 | purl | ACTION drops Ellipsis in a tank of pink paint and herring |
| 12:54.04 | sag_ich_nicht | nice. |
| 12:55.12 | kenlyric | bah |
| 12:55.22 | kenlyric | fuzzylogic, work damn you |
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| 12:56.03 | luxus | hm ticktock dont work :/ |
| 12:56.32 | CIA-39 | 03xan * r70206 10FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu/FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu.toc: |
| 12:56.32 | CIA-39 | FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu |
| 12:56.32 | CIA-39 | - updated toc |
| 12:56.40 | kenlyric | god |
| 12:56.54 | CIA-39 | 03jerry * r70207 10Talented/ui/ (base.lua trees.lua): Talented: cleanup tree branch creation |
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| 13:03.39 | kenlyric | that update to gridmanabars seems less than ideal |
| 13:05.08 | sag_ich_nicht | ugh |
| 13:05.13 | sag_ich_nicht | i think i need to do something |
| 13:05.18 | sag_ich_nicht | that i probably shouldn't do |
| 13:05.26 | sag_ich_nicht | gets an wiki account and begins his sinister work |
| 13:05.58 | Esine | is it possible to check if a unit has a pet, or is it possible to know whose pet the targetted unit is? |
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| 13:06.56 | kenlyric | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.04 | kenlyric | can I do this but with slot numbers instead of trinket names? |
| 13:07.14 | sag_ich_nicht | i think so |
| 13:07.17 | sag_ich_nicht | try it |
| 13:07.20 | sag_ich_nicht | slots are 13 and 14 |
| 13:07.34 | Gotai | Keep in mind the reset timer resets when you click themacro again |
| 13:07.47 | Gotai | So the actual time for it to reset will take longer than the cooldown on Bladefist's Breadth |
| 13:07.51 | Xan3 | how much does it takes to create the zip file? |
| 13:08.04 | ramoz | Xan3: about 20m |
| 13:08.17 | charon | Esine: have you tried UnitExists("raid1pet") or UnitExists("party1pet")? |
| 13:08.24 | kenlyric | seems to get the cooldowns just right |
| 13:08.29 | Esine | charon, it must work non-party and non-raid |
| 13:08.58 | Esine | so if I target someone's pet in IF for example is there a way to tell who owns it? |
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| 13:09.03 | kenlyric | no |
| 13:09.07 | kenlyric | targetpet is not a unitID |
| 13:09.39 | kenlyric | if you target the pet there is probably a way |
| 13:09.54 | Esine | probably |
| 13:10.04 | Esine | :/ |
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| 13:11.07 | sag_ich_nicht | my sinister work is nearly completed! |
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| 13:14.54 | Orionshock | ah... gg |
| 13:15.07 | dodga | Hm does anyone know how the gear scoring in armorylite works? |
| 13:15.07 | Orionshock | leo to 7%, and he enraged.... |
| 13:16.28 | Xan3 | http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu/FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu.zip |
| 13:16.34 | Xan3 | my first addon |
| 13:16.37 | Xan3 | thz to all |
| 13:16.50 | sag_ich_nicht | My sinister work is nearly completed |
| 13:16.53 | sag_ich_nicht | beware |
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| 13:25.33 | Snago | zomg, sag_ich_nicht has signed the SVN rules... No addon is no longer safe! |
| 13:25.54 | Olison | Fuck no |
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| 13:27.01 | sag_ich_nicht | damn it |
| 13:27.05 | SunTsu | Snago: That means in a short period of time all addons will start to insult users |
| 13:27.07 | sag_ich_nicht | SNAGO HAS UNCOVERED MY SINISTER WORK |
| 13:27.17 | sag_ich_nicht | DAMN YOU SNAGO |
| 13:27.19 | sag_ich_nicht | DAMN YOU |
| 13:27.31 | sag_ich_nicht | actually i'm just sick and tired of people QQing that simplecombatlog is gone |
| 13:27.43 | sag_ich_nicht | so i'll commit my replacement for it as NotSimpleCombatLog |
| 13:29.25 | sag_ich_nicht | of course |
| 13:29.30 | sag_ich_nicht | this is all just a plot |
| 13:29.35 | sag_ich_nicht | for a much darker plan |
| 13:29.56 | Viper0000 | any suggestions on an alternative to NECB? |
| 13:30.23 | sag_ich_nicht | nope |
| 13:30.40 | Fisker- | fuck you sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:30.41 | Fisker- | i own you |
| 13:30.42 | sag_ich_nicht | also it just got updated |
| 13:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- what |
| 13:30.44 | sag_ich_nicht | why |
| 13:30.49 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker- also |
| 13:30.53 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't own me |
| 13:30.54 | sag_ich_nicht | because |
| 13:30.58 | sag_ich_nicht | if you'd own me |
| 13:31.03 | sag_ich_nicht | you'd also own my property |
| 13:31.10 | sag_ich_nicht | and i don't think that you'd want to own your mom |
| 13:31.29 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 13:31.50 | sag_ich_nicht | then you'd still indirectly own your mom. |
| 13:31.59 | sag_ich_nicht | hey |
| 13:32.00 | sag_ich_nicht | nevcairiel |
| 13:32.06 | sag_ich_nicht | can i insult Fisker-? |
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| 13:32.17 | Hjalte | Viper0000: You should look at what pats of NECB you like, and then maybe try and find replacements on files.wowace.com. You might end up with using more than 1 addon, but that doesn't matter. |
| 13:32.21 | Hjalte | parts* |
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| 13:36.02 | ramoz | two? you need atlest three |
| 13:36.33 | ramoz | maybe six |
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| 13:41.25 | CIA-39 | 03jncl * r70208 10Skinner/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 13:41.25 | CIA-39 | Skinner: Bugfixes: |
| 13:41.25 | CIA-39 | - InspectFrame; stop model clipping buttons & handle tabs |
| 13:41.25 | CIA-39 | - Merchant Frame, display Repair Buttons in the right place |
| 13:41.25 | CIA-39 | - Recount, keep scrollbar within the frame |
| 13:41.26 | CIA-39 | - BankItems, skin editbox properly |
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| 13:43.41 | starlon | ~seen haste |
| 13:43.44 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev (6d 3h 42m 20s) #wowace (6d 3h 42m 20s). Has said a total of 33 messages. Is idling for 2h 59m 36s, last said: 'Xan3: if you are thinking of files.wowace.com or the SVN, you can't :)'. |
| 13:43.58 | haste | starlon: pong |
| 13:44.00 | Silviu- | ~seen tuller |
| 13:44.01 | purl | tuller <n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 16h 3m 4s ago, saying: 'not to mention state bindings failing on ;'. |
| 13:44.01 | starlon | Hey |
| 13:44.11 | haste | hello |
| 13:44.36 | starlon | haste: Anyway you could add a method call in oUF's elements\pvp.lua? |
| 13:45.11 | haste | I could push a texture fix if that's what you are intending to do with it :) |
| 13:45.22 | starlon | Yeah that's what I was doing |
| 13:45.29 | Fisker- | THE HORROR |
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| 13:45.40 | Fisker- | who had sex with gridmanabars and then committed it_ |
| 13:45.42 | Fisker- | _ |
| 13:45.45 | Fisker- | ? |
| 13:46.06 | evl | Theory people, Arms + Fury VS Arms + Feral on say Brutalus, who wins? |
| 13:46.17 | evl | Group is 2xSwords, Ench |
| 13:47.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: |
| 13:47.05 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:25] <+CIA-44> Ace: julith * r70181 GridManaBars/ (6 files): |
| 13:47.10 | sag_ich_nicht | [09:25] <+CIA-44> Ace: - added readme_on_problems.txt which explains the above changes |
| 13:47.15 | sag_ich_nicht | would you fuck read that |
| 13:47.20 | CIA-39 | 03ananhaid * r70209 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 13:47.20 | CIA-39 | LibBabble-Boss-3.0: |
| 13:47.20 | CIA-39 | - zhCN update. |
| 13:47.31 | kenlyric | the changes are broken |
| 13:47.38 | kenlyric | you can no longer resize the width of the bar |
| 13:47.46 | kenlyric | and it still doesn't send mana as text, so what is the point? |
| 13:47.52 | Snago | haste: Just switched to oUF yeasterday. It's forged out of pure win and hardened with awesome! Thanks for making it. Exactly what I was looking for in a UF addon! :) |
| 13:47.53 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 13:47.55 | Fisker- | also yeah |
| 13:47.59 | Fisker- | i want to resize it :( |
| 13:48.03 | sag_ich_nicht | QQ |
| 13:48.07 | Fisker- | QQ indeed |
| 13:48.11 | Fisker- | also ;_; |
| 13:48.13 | Fisker- | and t_t |
| 13:48.16 | kenlyric | I just don't get the point, since it doesn't do anything new |
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| 13:48.19 | Fisker- | but that's about it |
| 13:48.23 | sag_ich_nicht | just revert |
| 13:48.25 | sag_ich_nicht | u moron |
| 13:48.28 | kenlyric | except, now you can send other values to the ManaBar |
| 13:48.37 | kenlyric | like... uh... well, nothing |
| 13:48.47 | ramoz | Snago: oUF is only available on his googlecode site? |
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| 13:49.05 | Stanzilla | git repo, too |
| 13:49.09 | Snago | ramoz: http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/ |
| 13:49.15 | Fisker- | NO U MORAN sag_ich_nicht |
| 13:49.25 | ramoz | oh git! |
| 13:52.23 | haste | starlon: http://x0.no/108 |
| 13:53.15 | starlon | haste: Thanks :) |
| 13:54.13 | haste | I had completly forgotten that branch :p |
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| 14:04.17 | starlon | haste: http://ace.pastey.net/85910 |
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| 14:06.00 | kenlyric | can spell timer mods track things like traps and know if they break early? |
| 14:07.27 | charon | why not? the debuff goes away when they break so spell_aura_removed will fire |
| 14:08.51 | haste | starlon: why the texcoords? |
| 14:09.56 | starlon | doesn't show the images otherwise |
| 14:10.24 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.48 | starlon | for instance the alliance texture looks like a yellow blob |
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| 14:12.45 | haste | starlon: I'm unable to recreate that |
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| 14:16.54 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70210 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: lower all text to give the blacklist more of a chance |
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| 14:18.39 | luxus | does oUF support party targets? |
| 14:19.21 | starlon | haste: http://ace.pastey.net/85911 |
| 14:20.42 | haste | starlon: I'm still unable to recreate the issue you have |
| 14:20.48 | starlon | hmm |
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| 14:23.10 | starlon | You see the icon? |
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| 14:25.35 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r70211 10GrimReaper/GrimReaper.lua: GrimReaper: Fixed combat log line spell tips error. |
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| 14:25.48 | syeren | haste, I recently saw that your latest version of oCD looks gorgeous. |
| 14:25.53 | syeren | However I cannot get it to work :< |
| 14:26.14 | haste | syeren: it's in a state where it requires some lua tinkering because the db system isn't in and such |
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| 14:27.23 | syeren | haste, it does look like... http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/656/colduiv13xp0.jpg |
| 14:27.24 | syeren | Right? |
| 14:27.54 | haste | yes |
| 14:28.04 | starlon | haste: Can you just call a method from your code and let me do the texture part? This is what it looks like as is: http://starlon.lyrical.net/images/WoWScrnShot_041708_092225.jpg (top right corner of player unit) |
| 14:28.35 | haste | starlon: what height/width values are you using? |
| 14:28.47 | starlon | 16 on both |
| 14:28.50 | syeren | haste, now all you have to do is teach me which tinkering to do, because it looks amazing :< |
| 14:28.59 | haste | then you want to put it higher |
| 14:29.04 | haste | the icons are 64x64 by default |
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| 14:32.37 | starlon | haste: Ok, I see the icon now. What I pastey'd worked too. lol |
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| 14:32.55 | Neya | is it due to the way Lua treats floating point numbers that editBox:GetNumber() returns something like 1.2000000476837 |
| 14:33.05 | Neya | when I tell it to work on 1.2? |
| 14:34.10 | sica | uhm, is there a bar-addon that saves the spells in it somehow? So that I can have different spells on different computers in my bars |
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| 14:35.51 | dieck | Neya: it's most likely the way every computer treats floats :) |
| 14:36.49 | phyber | so, that SimpleDurabilityFu is a copy/paste of DuraTek with random attempts to upgrade the libraries? *boggles* |
| 14:37.41 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 14:38.06 | syeren | Poke haste: I guess you aren't willing to give me a 'quick-fix' with oCD are you :P? |
| 14:38.49 | haste | syeren: ocd.lua, db -> spell and item |
| 14:39.02 | phyber | does loading libraries with AceLibrary() that were designed for LibStub() even work? |
| 14:39.02 | haste | you'll have to enter the spells there manually for now |
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| 14:40.39 | syeren | haste, as simple as ["Earth Shock"] = true, |
| 14:40.39 | syeren | ? |
| 14:40.48 | haste | yes |
| 14:40.58 | syeren | Well, thank you very much for your help and time :) |
| 14:41.18 | syeren | Release your ErrorMonster addon thing as a seperate addon too :P! |
| 14:41.56 | dylanm | Huh? You mean oShit? |
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| 14:43.50 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r70212 10Pendulum/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:43.50 | CIA-39 | Pendulum: |
| 14:43.50 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:43.50 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.00 | phyber | 1416.28 < Xan3> http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu/FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu.zip |
| 14:44.03 | phyber | 1416.34 < Xan3> my first addon |
| 14:44.05 | phyber | 1416.37 < Xan3> thz to all |
| 14:44.07 | phyber | it should be deleted. :| |
| 14:44.09 | sb | yay, skinnable analog clock! |
| 14:44.19 | phyber | he didn't even make the effort to change the info in the toc. |
| 14:44.24 | sb | JJSheets: giev screenshot :o |
| 14:44.31 | JJSheets | lmao |
| 14:44.37 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Is there any way that bartender 3 or 4 can save where which button is, so you can restore it, for instance after respeccing? |
| 14:44.41 | JJSheets | one sec. |
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| 14:46.44 | dodga | SunTsu: I think ActionBarSaver does that |
| 14:47.02 | DarkElf | now make a skinnable digital clock :p |
| 14:47.23 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70213 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: expand blacklist |
| 14:48.04 | SunTsu | dodga: It'll look into that, thanks |
| 14:48.31 | kenlyric | phyber: that was after yesterday getting slammed for updating the libraries in DuraTek |
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| 14:49.36 | phyber | kenlyric: yeah. |
| 14:49.46 | kenlyric | I at least did new things with the code I stole! |
| 14:49.50 | Sent_ | Here's the stupid question of the day: using Ace3 if I want :RegisterEvent() since CallbackHandler can't be embedded, do I trictly have to embed AceEvent-3 ? |
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| 14:50.05 | dodga | SunTsu: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver.html |
| 14:50.06 | phyber | kenlyric: new interesting things! things that won't even work! :o |
| 14:50.21 | kenlyric | phyber: my new interesting things work! |
| 14:50.24 | SunTsu | dodga: I know, already got it, thanks |
| 14:50.49 | phyber | kenlyric: oh, I thought you were talking about that other stolen code! Which codes did you stolez? :o |
| 14:51.01 | kenlyric | gridhealth |
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| 14:51.20 | JJSheets | What's the best image hosting site? |
| 14:51.25 | CIA-39 | 03jjsheets * r70214 10Pendulum/ (. Libs/): |
| 14:51.25 | CIA-39 | Pendulum: |
| 14:51.25 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.28 | syeren | bayimg.com |
| 14:51.30 | syeren | Probably :p |
| 14:51.47 | SunTsu | phyber: Wasn't it Tekkup who states that he doesn't care if somebody makes a fork of his projects as long nobody wants support for it from him? |
| 14:51.50 | neenee | Hm.. Did the latest patch introduce a chat window bug where the first chat window will always show party and guild messages? |
| 14:51.59 | SunTsu | Tekkub |
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| 14:52.33 | phyber | SunTsu: there's a fork of a project, then there is copy/pasting the code into something that likely doesn't even work and calling it complete |
| 14:52.40 | Elkano | neenee, started with 2.4 |
| 14:52.41 | Gotai | neenee: No,it introduced a bug where settings aren't saving properly. |
| 14:52.41 | phyber | I guess if your aim was a fork that didn't work, it could be complete. |
| 14:52.46 | neenee | Ah |
| 14:52.47 | neenee | Okay |
| 14:52.48 | Gotai | Get oma Clog from curse to fix it. |
| 14:52.52 | neenee | Is there some workaround? |
| 14:53.01 | neenee | oma clog? Okay, let me try that. |
| 14:53.02 | neenee | Weird name |
| 14:53.04 | CIA-39 | 03zeksie * r70215 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Fixed nil index error exiting combat with ppl who left the group needing attribute changes queued. |
| 14:53.06 | neenee | Thanks for the replies :) |
| 14:53.09 | JJSheets | sb, Pendulum SS: http://i28.tinypic.com/vsjbjp.jpg |
| 14:53.09 | Elkano | was scheduled to be fixed in 2.4.1 but the fix was withdrawn from the patch shortly before release due to a bug |
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| 14:53.31 | phyber | SunTsu: maybe AceLibrary can load those LibStub libraries, but it's still odd. :/ |
| 14:53.37 | Elkano | neenee: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=8559 |
| 14:53.51 | kenlyric | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/GridStatusStrings/GridStatusStrings.lua?r=69547 I still haven't figured out how to make a config submenu |
| 14:53.58 | JJSheets | sb, but I plan on adding a couple extra skins that will blow that one out of the water. think active and functional clock gears also. |
| 14:54.02 | phyber | infact, the bottom of the libraries has some code that lets it work, i see. but it's still horrible. |
| 14:54.05 | SunTsu | phyber: Well, nobody has to use it. If nobody does it will surely die. Let time have it's way ;) |
| 14:54.15 | phyber | hehe :) |
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| 14:54.42 | neenee | Thanks, checking it out now |
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| 14:59.04 | kalahassi | Zuljin resets his aggrotable each time he changes his appearance, doesnt he? |
| 14:59.52 | Chompers | yes. |
| 15:01.22 | kalahassi | i just needed an example for this funtion in threat.2.0 ;) |
| 15:02.07 | dylanm | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/NPCModules/ZulAman/Zuljin.lua |
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| 15:15.09 | Fisker- | phyber he didn't copy/paste the code entirely |
| 15:16.21 | phyber | :o |
| 15:20.01 | Fisker- | this south park episode is already delivering :O |
| 15:20.56 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70216 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: dryfix some drycode bugs in r70194 |
| 15:20.58 | Chompers | Fisker-: the end is good |
| 15:21.08 | Chompers | espically when you find out what the 'internet' is |
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| 15:24.26 | ckknight | Chompers: ectoplasm |
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| 15:25.44 | Chompers | eaw ckk |
| 15:25.52 | Chompers | it was a ghost i swear! |
| 15:28.00 | fry | that episode was horrible |
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| 15:30.19 | chexsum | south park is for babies |
| 15:30.25 | CIA-39 | 03Silverstorm * r70217 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua: |
| 15:30.25 | CIA-39 | StatBlocks_Clock: |
| 15:30.25 | CIA-39 | - Nuke the leading '0' |
| 15:30.25 | CIA-39 | - Add profile support |
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| 15:31.32 | chexsum | bleh @ not starting a cartoon war |
| 15:31.37 | crazytalk | any warcraft linux users in? |
| 15:33.57 | chdst | < |
| 15:35.01 | crazytalk | chdst: do you use wine-0.9.58 to correct the ctrl-shift-alt bug? |
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| 15:36.13 | chdst | crazytalk: That bug doesn't affect me, due to my playstyle. I've been playing on 0.9.58 on the Ubuntu Hardy beta, though. |
| 15:36.55 | crazytalk | ok well to workaround the bug the guide had me download wine-0.9.58 to my desktop manually so i couldn't use application add/remove |
| 15:36.58 | Kemayo | I don't even know what that bug is. |
| 15:36.59 | crazytalk | how do i install it? |
| 15:36.59 | CIA-39 | 03Silverstorm * r70218 10StatBlocks_Coordinates/StatBlocks_Coordinates.lua: StatBlocks_Coordinates: Update OnEnable to set precision based on profile setting |
| 15:37.10 | chdst | What distribution of Linux are you running? |
| 15:37.14 | crazytalk | ubuntu gutsy |
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| 15:37.22 | crazytalk | 7.10 |
| 15:38.27 | chdst | crazytalk: http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb Has instructions for getting the latest Wine to you the "ubuntu" way. |
| 15:38.40 | crazytalk | ya i have the latest wine |
| 15:38.45 | crazytalk | but their appdb told me to remove it |
| 15:38.45 | Fisker- | lulz Chompers |
| 15:39.00 | crazytalk | chdst: and install wine-0.9.58 so i can use shift ctrl alt keys |
| 15:39.05 | chdst | I am now confused. |
| 15:39.11 | chdst | Are you running 0.9.59? |
| 15:39.16 | crazytalk | i was, yes |
| 15:39.19 | chdst | Ah. |
| 15:39.22 | crazytalk | warcraft ran great |
| 15:39.28 | crazytalk | but i could alt ctrl or shift |
| 15:39.48 | crazytalk | a post on their website said to downgrade to wine-0.9.58 which is now sitting on my desktop, but i don't know how to intall it |
| 15:40.04 | chdst | Right. So you're using the winehq repositories? |
| 15:40.16 | deadlock | The newest wine works great for me. |
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| 15:40.47 | deadlock | if your using ubuntu just go to key bindings and turn off the use of the ALT + ctrl keys |
| 15:40.50 | deadlock | <.< |
| 15:40.55 | deadlock | WOrked for me |
| 15:41.18 | deadlock | crazytalk: You should really join #ubuntu or #winehq |
| 15:41.27 | crazytalk | chdst: idk, i'm not yet down with the linux lingo. i downloaded superb-west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/wine/wine-0.9.58.tar.bz2 |
| 15:41.32 | chdst | That was my next suggestion, sadly. |
| 15:41.43 | crazytalk | :( |
| 15:41.58 | deadlock | crazytalk: The newest wine works fine with ubuntu. |
| 15:42.04 | chdst | In ubuntu, the tarball is usually a last resort and undesirable action. |
| 15:42.06 | deadlock | I'm running it right now as we speak. |
| 15:42.11 | crazytalk | deadlock: hmmm when you sau key bindings you mean ubuntu key bindings? |
| 15:42.15 | deadlock | Yes. |
| 15:42.23 | crazytalk | but then i can't switch workspaces etc |
| 15:42.30 | deadlock | I had to disaable inorder to e able to ctrl + alt inside game. |
| 15:42.41 | chdst | And I use a crazy infinibar setup that makes it so that I don't have to use an modifier on my action bars. |
| 15:42.43 | deadlock | change it to something else |
| 15:42.44 | crazytalk | or use the alt keys to switch channel in irssi |
| 15:43.05 | deadlock | nvm. I guess just go through all the hassle of downgrading. :-) |
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| 15:43.11 | deadlock | sudo apt-get remove wine |
| 15:43.14 | crazytalk | i don't understand how you can say it 'works fine' then tbh |
| 15:43.18 | deadlock | Go download the .deb |
| 15:43.22 | deadlock | and reinstall .58 |
| 15:43.26 | deadlock | and have the same problem |
| 15:43.40 | crazytalk | the post on their website said it fixes the problem! |
| 15:43.48 | deadlock | What the hell do you expect/ You have 5 dif things all t rying to using the same hot key. |
| 15:43.49 | chdst | Downgrading's not hard if the packages are on the wine repos...which they aren't. :) |
| 15:44.01 | deadlock | .58 isnt they just keep the newest |
| 15:44.07 | deadlock | You have to gho into the archived downloads. |
| 15:44.08 | Kemayo | For what it's worth, I'm using Ubuntu gutsy as well, and don't have this problem. |
| 15:44.13 | crazytalk | fuck me |
| 15:44.20 | deadlock | Only problem i had, was with bongos |
| 15:44.24 | Kemayo | You're not my type. |
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| 15:44.27 | crazytalk | scoffs at his shift key |
| 15:44.31 | deadlock | i could ALT + drag, to create my bars |
| 15:44.39 | deadlock | i just switched one hot key over, and it works great. |
| 15:44.42 | deadlock | couldnt^ |
| 15:47.33 | CIA-39 | 03nebelmond * r70219 10OptiTaunt/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 15:47.33 | CIA-39 | OptiTaunt: |
| 15:47.33 | CIA-39 | - added DewdropLib as dependency |
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| 15:53.45 | Obelixprime | ckknight, with the new parrot i can't set any of the libsharedmedia sounds, only banzai alert sounds |
| 15:55.02 | ulic | Obelixprime: I don't think there is a "new" Parrot, only the old Parrot that people have tweaked to kinda work, and that ckk doesn't support in 2.4. |
| 15:55.23 | ulic | he's gonna make a new Parrot, but to my knowledge hasn't yet. |
| 15:55.55 | Obelixprime | he's incorporated what changes there were into the newest one, although yes, they are just hacks to get it to sort of work |
| 15:55.59 | [EU]Gunder | Parrot2 is WIP |
| 15:56.05 | Obelixprime | WIP? |
| 15:56.11 | [EU]Gunder | work in progress |
| 15:56.30 | Obelixprime | the hacked version of parrot1 is doing fine for me right now |
| 15:56.41 | ulic | if I recall the change log says he merged the changes, but said don't report bugs to him. |
| 15:56.58 | Obelixprime | ehhh, it may not be a bug, just me being stupid |
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| 15:58.22 | Obelixprime | its just that i thought a lot of the issues were with the new combat log |
| 15:58.52 | Obelixprime | and having a reduced selection of sounds for events doesn't seem to have been affected with the 2.4 changes, hence the question |
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| 15:59.22 | CIA-39 | 03kemayo 07dev * r70220 10BankStack/ (7 files): BankStack: Branch to dev for work on the DB. |
| 15:59.46 | syeren | The version of Parrot you are currently using... ckknight has had pretty much nothing to do with :p |
| 15:59.59 | syeren | So it's pointless reporting your bugs to him, as Parrot 1.0 is pretty much dead to him. |
| 16:00.17 | ckknight | it's not that, I'm just freakishly busy |
| 16:00.51 | Kemayo | ckknight: Persuade netcurse to account for your addon-writing time as community evangelism. :D |
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| 16:01.06 | ckknight | there's too many other things to do |
| 16:01.21 | Fisker- | why call him netcurse? |
| 16:01.44 | netcurse | <- |
| 16:01.47 | ckknight | becuase he's in the channel now |
| 16:01.48 | Fisker- | oh |
| 16:01.57 | Kemayo | Nyaa. |
| 16:02.08 | Fisker- | i hate you Kemayo |
| 16:02.55 | netcurse | Kemayo what Ckk is working on right now is already community evengelism :) |
| 16:03.07 | ckknight | I'm working on curseforge |
| 16:03.08 | syeren | But it isn't Parrot. |
| 16:03.13 | syeren | And it won't be on WAU. |
| 16:03.17 | syeren | So no one cares \o/ |
| 16:03.18 | Fisker- | curseforge? :O |
| 16:03.18 | ckknight | I need Kaelten to get back |
| 16:03.29 | Jagobah | curseforge hehehe |
| 16:03.35 | NivFreak | so I had fun in TK last night |
| 16:03.42 | NivFreak | I very nearly solo tanked VR |
| 16:03.45 | ckknight | yea, curseforge is pretty pimp all in all |
| 16:03.50 | NivFreak | lost him once early on, pushed back over the next tank |
| 16:03.54 | ckknight | join #curseforge for data |
| 16:03.57 | NivFreak | and held him through all the knockbacks |
| 16:03.58 | ckknight | well, info |
| 16:04.09 | Kemayo | curseforge is a pain, I'll probably have to rewrite my updater. |
| 16:04.14 | Kemayo | kids. |
| 16:04.25 | ckknight | :-P |
| 16:05.47 | Fisker- | project seems kinda silly |
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| 16:06.51 | syeren | So it's basically a WoWI? |
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| 16:07.01 | Fisker- | without the addon download :D |
| 16:07.07 | Kemayo | curseforge does seem to represent the improvements to wowace hosting that have been coming Real Soon Now for the last year. |
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| 16:09.01 | VonhintenHOME` | Niv, it's pretty easy to do, as long as you're DPS heavy |
| 16:09.18 | VonhintenHOME` | The longer the fight drags on, the bigger the 25% reductions get |
| 16:09.34 | VonhintenHOME` | Pally can pretty much tank it the whole time, if DPS is quick |
| 16:11.36 | neenee | And if the DPS is quicker, a rogue can tank :P |
| 16:12.12 | VonhintenHOME` | bah, rogue can't generate agro fast enough... try an enh shaman :) |
| 16:12.22 | neenee | Or a mage :P |
| 16:12.25 | SunTsu | It it even higher a clothie can - and will |
| 16:12.37 | SunTsu | "if it is" |
| 16:12.54 | neenee | But pulling aggro is not the same as tanking |
| 16:13.20 | SunTsu | neenee: Well, for a very short period of time it is ;) |
| 16:14.07 | EvilJohn- | for as long as evasion holds out |
| 16:14.40 | ckknight | syeren: it's kinda like wowace, but shinier, more professional, more features |
| 16:14.46 | ckknight | syeren: biggest feature for me is the git support ;-) |
| 16:14.51 | EvilJohn- | is there a url we can use to check it out? |
| 16:14.56 | ckknight | curseforge.com |
| 16:15.13 | ckknight | note: it's not technically released, still beta |
| 16:15.26 | VonhintenHOME` | so, what you're saying is, it's like wowace, only there's ads, and it'll buckle under patch day load, got it |
| 16:15.28 | VonhintenHOME` | :) |
| 16:15.35 | ckknight | wowace has ads |
| 16:15.38 | Vangual | is it git-only or can you opt to have normal svn on a project? |
| 16:15.49 | ckknight | Vangual: your choice between svn, git, and hg |
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| 16:15.51 | ckknight | hg's not done yet, though |
| 16:15.59 | Vangual | very nice |
| 16:16.37 | ckknight | and it'll autopackage like wowace |
| 16:16.47 | ckknight | and if you want to release to curse.com, you push a button |
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| 16:16.50 | ckknight | :-P |
| 16:17.36 | Vangual | doesn't have the inverted wowace login on which things to package I hope? |
| 16:17.47 | Kemayo | Will it allow a similar updater setup to wowace? (I.e. update feed.) |
| 16:17.52 | Vangual | aka. i can tell it to package my tags. |
| 16:18.02 | netcurse | Vonhinten, we are redoing curse.com right now with a new team and another language to be able to take patch days. |
| 16:18.28 | netcurse | a normal patch days means ~20 millions pages views/day for 2-3 days on curse.com |
| 16:18.37 | Gngsk | Kemayo, <3 BankStack branch! |
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| 16:18.45 | ckknight | Vangual: more like push a button, it'd tag it for you, make a zip, release |
| 16:19.34 | ckknight | that's the final idea, at least |
| 16:19.35 | netcurse | Kemayo, this is still in discussion. As you know updaters are a huge money waste. |
| 16:19.40 | CIA-39 | 03cluelessnoob * r70221 10dgks/ (dgks.lua dgks.toc): |
| 16:19.40 | CIA-39 | dgks: |
| 16:19.40 | CIA-39 | -Wasn't working with 2.4 combat log; last update 5 months ago; updating. |
| 16:19.45 | EvilJohn- | that's what's reelesed to the curse updater? |
| 16:19.50 | netcurse | (we host WAU, remember) |
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| 16:20.22 | Kemayo | netcurse: Well, sure. But they're reasonably important for uptake because users love 'em. |
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| 16:21.56 | rubik | hmm.. Morogrim.. doable without a pally tank for the murlocs? |
| 16:21.57 | Lukian | hahah! I have never had a game make emotes at me. http://ace.pastey.net/85918 |
| 16:22.04 | sag_ich_nicht | rubik: yupp |
| 16:22.07 | Lukian | s/game/GM/ |
| 16:22.12 | sag_ich_nicht | rubik: frostnova + lern2range |
| 16:22.23 | rubik | guild finally having enough people to make a push in ssc and we're finally trying all these new bosses |
| 16:22.26 | sag_ich_nicht | but a paladin tank makes him way easier |
| 16:22.28 | Prof_Albert | rubik: definitly |
| 16:22.30 | rubik | outgearing shit by ridiculous amounts |
| 16:22.32 | VonhintenHOME` | doable, but wouldn't want to |
| 16:22.42 | rubik | first leo try ever.. 1% |
| 16:22.45 | sag_ich_nicht | rubik: just kill the damn other bosses first |
| 16:23.01 | Psycho | rubik: We had a paladin tank for our first kill, it makes things dramatically easier. Since then, however, we have commonly had a holy paladin in PvP gear just heal himself to help maintain threat on a bunch of them. |
| 16:23.02 | sag_ich_nicht | rubik: 1% wipes on leo are like 10% wipes on other bosses :P |
| 16:23.11 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, that 1% on leo is a bitch |
| 16:23.16 | rubik | haha.. i know.. not that leo is a big accomplishment but was just saying |
| 16:23.17 | VonhintenHOME` | too many people lose their heads |
| 16:23.20 | Psycho | It's been a long time and a lot of badge gear since we did SSC, so I imagine it'd be quite easy to do now. |
| 16:23.53 | rubik | ahh ok.. we have holy pallies but just no tankadins |
| 16:24.10 | rubik | so can prolly tell one of them to throw on pvp gear and spam heals |
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| 16:24.28 | Psycho | Yerp. All your spare tanks can help out too. You should be fine. |
| 16:24.29 | VonhintenHOME` | have em pick up imp righteous fury |
| 16:24.30 | rubik | if not, we were going to try a feral druid and 1-2 warriors spamming thunderclap and other crap |
| 16:24.40 | Psycho | You have a feral tanking him? |
| 16:24.55 | rubik | i'll prolly have to (feral) |
| 16:25.06 | rubik | so i'll let the prot warriors tank murlocs |
| 16:25.07 | Psycho | Alright, as long as you're doing that, yeah, you can stick your other tanks on murlocs |
| 16:25.29 | rubik | cause he has spikey damage so druid tank best (morogrim), right? |
| 16:25.35 | Psycho | Druid tank on morogrim makes things a zillion times easier. |
| 16:25.50 | rubik | cool.. that'll work |
| 16:26.04 | Psycho | It's not the spike damage so much as he'll often attack faster than warriors can put up shield block charges. He also hits pretty hard normally. |
| 16:26.12 | Psycho | Lower average damage and crush-soaking makes druids do very well. |
| 16:26.23 | rubik | it's either work on morogrim or fathom-lord and for some reason everyone is scared to try fathom-lord |
| 16:26.33 | VonhintenHOME` | fathom-lord has been nerfed into the ground |
| 16:26.35 | Psycho | Karathress is significantly easier than Morogrim. |
| 16:26.42 | rubik | really? hmm |
| 16:26.45 | Psycho | You'll laugh after you kill Tidewalker and then one-shot Karathress. |
| 16:26.51 | rubik | lol |
| 16:26.51 | VonhintenHOME` | the shaman only drops the searing totem one freaking time now |
| 16:27.01 | Psycho | Are you serious, VonhintenHOME`? |
| 16:27.05 | Psycho | He really doesn't re-drop it? |
| 16:27.05 | VonhintenHOME` | yep |
| 16:27.09 | Psycho | oh jesus. |
| 16:27.11 | rubik | nice |
| 16:27.15 | Psycho | Yeah, that fight has to be a joke. |
| 16:27.24 | VonhintenHOME` | once he merges into karathress, he does, but the shaman mob doesn't do more than one |
| 16:27.46 | rubik | so whole fight is just lrn2macro? |
| 16:27.49 | VonhintenHOME` | or maybe he does, but you'll kill him before that |
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| 16:28.04 | VonhintenHOME` | what macro do you need? |
| 16:28.05 | Psycho | The whole fight is the pull is probably more accurate, rubik. |
| 16:28.19 | rubik | HKM all over again |
| 16:28.20 | Psycho | If you split them up and get them all picked up by tanks with no one dying you're pretty much there. |
| 16:28.30 | rubik | cool; sounds good |
| 16:28.35 | Vulcanus | since when did this turn into #elitistjerks? |
| 16:28.44 | Snago | If I want to reset a :SetTexCoord() on a texture, it's :SetTexCoord(0, 1, 0, 1)? |
| 16:28.48 | rubik | Vulcanus: slow addon development day, sorry |
| 16:29.05 | rubik | feel free to discuss wowace related stuff at the same time |
| 16:29.16 | Psycho | If it was #elitistjerks, Vulcanus, we'd all be talking about how having a shaman kite the fourth mob in the second pull of Sunwell Plateau leads to a raid-wide .03% damage increase. |
| 16:29.43 | rubik | and i'd be getting a kickban for not capitalizing words in my sentences and not using proper punctuation |
| 16:29.55 | Vulcanus | I wasn't referring to the site ;p just couldn't think of a better description off the bat |
| 16:30.06 | Vulcanus | just ticks me off when its not that, it just ticks me off |
| 16:30.09 | Vulcanus | ugh |
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| 16:30.23 | kenlyric | rubik: no, that's only the forums |
| 16:30.35 | Vulcanus | just ticks me off when people talk like nerfing bosses is a bad thing. More people seeing the content = good :p |
| 16:30.37 | rubik | ahh.. k.. i'm safe then. :P |
| 16:30.38 | kenlyric | who the fuck uses capitalization on irc? |
| 16:30.48 | rubik | Antiarc does |
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| 16:30.59 | VonhintenHOME` | I do. Force of habit. |
| 16:31.03 | kenlyric | capitals in nicknames are an abomination |
| 16:31.16 | kenlyric | BEFORE THE LORD |
| 16:31.16 | rubik | a few people on here do |
| 16:31.26 | pastamancer | I JUST USE CAPS ALL THE TIME. |
| 16:31.29 | neenee | I do as well. Though I tab-complete, which does it for nicknames. |
| 16:31.37 | SunTsu | Psycho: In which order do you kill Karathress' adds? |
| 16:31.42 | rubik | my irc nickname used to be RUBiK.. back in my efnet #warez days |
| 16:31.46 | Vulcanus | I only use capitalisation on forum posts, rarely in irc |
| 16:31.55 | Psycho | SunTsu: Shaman, hunter, priest |
| 16:32.08 | Psycho | Vulcanus: It's not that I'm upset about him getting nerfed, I was just surprised. |
| 16:32.17 | Psycho | I've always thought FLK was one of the easier ones in SSC |
| 16:32.33 | VonhintenHOME` | shaman hunter priest is what we do too |
| 16:32.59 | rubik | sounds not-too-hard indeed.. hmm.. might try him next instead of morogrim now that i think about it more |
| 16:33.05 | Psycho | Though if the shaman really only drops his totem once now, I'd go after the hunter first. |
| 16:33.15 | SunTsu | Psycho: OK, thought so ;) We tried shaman last in our first Karathress try and it didn't work out. I, a feral, was killed by the shaman every time |
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| 16:33.34 | Psycho | Yeah, if you're just starting it's probably far better to kill the shaman first. |
| 16:33.35 | rubik | ouch.. that's not what i, also a feral, like to hear |
| 16:33.38 | VonhintenHOME` | nah, you want to get that shaman out of the picture fast... he can still insta-gib a tank |
| 16:33.44 | Psycho | He has way more burst damage and stands the most chance of screwing things up |
| 16:33.48 | Arrowmaster | we used to do hunter->shaman->priest |
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| 16:34.19 | Psycho | SunTsu: You've got a shaman in the feral tank group to drop grounding totem, right? |
| 16:34.19 | SunTsu | He started delivering 4k blows real fast, no chance for healers to keep up |
| 16:34.22 | Nandini | has anyone started testing the esMX client? |
| 16:34.37 | SunTsu | Psycho: No I didn't |
| 16:34.41 | rubik | finally got my feral staff to drop last night.. still no tanking belt pattern yet though.. that place hates druids |
| 16:34.52 | Psycho | His frost shock gets absorbed by grounding totem. |
| 16:35.02 | Psycho | I'd throw one in there, that will make the shaman much more manageable. |
| 16:35.03 | JohnBro | Greetings all :) |
| 16:35.10 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, grounding totem in shaman tank group is a good idea |
| 16:35.33 | SunTsu | rubik: I got the wildstaff last run, too. Nice one. |
| 16:35.38 | Psycho | rubik, fortunately the belt is BoE and vortexes are not BoP anymore, so I figure y ou could find one on your server. |
| 16:35.45 | SunTsu | Psycho: Thanks, I'll try to remember that |
| 16:36.13 | rubik | true, can procure the belt much easier these days so it's not that big a deal but still going to wait a few more runs |
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| 16:36.24 | rubik | i know it'll drop the day after i get a belt crafted. :P |
| 16:36.37 | JohnBro | guys maybe you can help me but does anyone know of an addon that estimates how fast a boss would die by checking the dps ? |
| 16:37.08 | rubik | not sure there is such a thing out there but does sound kind of neat |
| 16:37.29 | SunTsu | rubik: It's the same with everything. Got Silkk's tank cloak from a vendor, afterwards Illhoof started dropping his cloak everytime ;) |
| 16:37.58 | JohnBro | rubik: aye i thought of it cause it would help me time some of my cooldowns better |
| 16:37.59 | rubik | haha.. yup |
| 16:37.59 | VonhintenHOME` | There's so few bosses that are just straight DPS, it'd be hard to measure that. Different phases take longer than others, etc |
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| 16:38.36 | JohnBro | true VonhintenHOME` but im more or less interested in if the 20%-0% would take longer then 20 sec on most bosses |
| 16:38.55 | Arrowmaster | you wouldnt know |
| 16:39.08 | JohnBro | thats why it be an estimate :P |
| 16:39.14 | neenee | I think it does on most. |
| 16:39.19 | Arrowmaster | since dps would change as soon as the boss hits 20% and it would take too long for the estimate to become accurate |
| 16:39.25 | JohnBro | uh huh |
| 16:39.33 | [Liquidor] | GUESS WHO'S GOT A PREPAID GAME CARD ??? :---------D |
| 16:39.36 | VonhintenHOME` | You're looking for something that can tell you if you're on track with your enrage timer? |
| 16:39.40 | JohnBro | but if per example 30-0 would be on the estimate 30 sec |
| 16:39.53 | SunTsu | [Liquidor]: Captain Capslock? ;) |
| 16:39.57 | JohnBro | i could pop my racial earlier stuff like that :) |
| 16:39.58 | Nandini | your best bet is to kill the boss several times and record his health at various intervals, then make yourself a graph |
| 16:40.04 | Arrowmaster | then 20-0 would probably be less than 20 |
| 16:40.24 | JohnBro | VonhintenHOME`: basicly were comming up to a boss that requires alot of dps in 3.5 minutes cause of the ability he does |
| 16:40.31 | [Liquidor] | SunTsu, Captain Nobody |
| 16:40.37 | [Liquidor] | ... ;) |
| 16:41.13 | VonhintenHOME` | JohnBro, you can probably just use recount's raid DPS graph |
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| 16:42.09 | JohnBro | was kinda hoping for a more "light weight" solution but yeah its an idea |
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| 16:44.31 | Psycho | Hm. |
| 16:44.48 | Psycho | You could track the raid's current DPS (some addons calculate it, like recount) and divide it into the boss's estimated HP |
| 16:45.08 | Psycho | Or, average DPS since the boss fight started would probably work better. |
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| 16:45.35 | Odlaw | how do you get the raid's dps with recount? |
| 16:46.16 | Nandini | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.20 | Odlaw | k |
| 16:48.39 | Psycho | But I don't think any addons do that. However, I could see it being a little useful. |
| 16:48.51 | Psycho | Generally I just say "okay, we're at x%, we have y minutes left, we're ahead of enrage" |
| 16:48.58 | Nandini | a time-to-live kind of thing? |
| 16:49.00 | JohnBro | uh huh :) |
| 16:49.11 | durcyn | just use TimeToDie for that |
| 16:49.24 | Psycho | Well there we go. |
| 16:49.30 | JohnBro | thank you durcyn :D |
| 16:49.48 | Psycho | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=8310.0 |
| 16:50.12 | sag_ich_nicht | pastamancer: WTB making frames in grid wider than 100 |
| 16:50.40 | Julith | increase the scaling |
| 16:51.26 | NeoTron | is considering going with 8 healers on Brutallus |
| 16:51.39 | Psycho | You must have some bleeding edge DPS |
| 16:51.40 | NeoTron | although I'm not sure exactly how to get another 1000-1500 DPS needed by goind down one dpser |
| 16:52.02 | NeoTron | we can adjust the groups |
| 16:52.18 | Psycho | A lot of the first kills I've seen have been six-healer shots where they beat enrage by like 10 seconds. |
| 16:52.27 | Psycho | Taking eight would be yowza. |
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| 16:52.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: i keel you! |
| 16:52.37 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:50] <Julith> increase the scaling <--then the fonts are too hueg |
| 16:52.38 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 16:52.43 | Psycho | Of course, the people who take six healers generally don't have glaive sets. |
| 16:52.44 | sag_ich_nicht | also i keel you! |
| 16:52.45 | NeoTron | how the hell do the tanks live with 6 healers? |
| 16:52.51 | NeoTron | we have no glaives |
| 16:53.00 | NeoTron | our dps with 7 +2 is easily good enough |
| 16:53.09 | NeoTron | especially since we go with liek 4 shamans |
| 16:53.14 | Psycho | BRAIN HEALZ |
| 16:53.21 | Psycho | My raid comps have been a sea of blue lately. |
| 16:53.26 | NeoTron | our best attempt was 50% at 3 minute mark (in terms of noting the mid-point dmg) |
| 16:53.34 | Psycho | I usually have one enhancement, two elemental, and up to three resto show up all on the same night. |
| 16:53.39 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 16:53.49 | NeoTron | so healing the raid isn'tthe main issue |
| 16:54.00 | NeoTron | we haev essentially a signle resto shaman + 2 shadow priests handle that |
| 16:54.01 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: mana percentages on the manabars and moving the text i had to the center of the healthbar, instead of having it stick on the manabar, utterly confusing me |
| 16:54.02 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 16:54.32 | Psycho | If you think you could pick up the DPS (maybe you can have more leatherworking cooldowns or something) then I'd go for it, more healers always makes for an easier time. |
| 16:55.20 | NeoTron | well |
| 16:55.25 | NeoTron | we would have to optimize DPS more |
| 16:55.49 | Julith | sag_ich_nicht: what should not stick at what? |
| 16:55.49 | NeoTron | skip the boomkin -> 300+ dps gain |
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| 16:55.50 | NeoTron | for example |
| 16:55.53 | Psycho | Poor boomkin :( |
| 16:55.54 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: i'll make a screenshot :P |
| 16:55.59 | Psycho | Poor destruction warlocks :( |
| 16:55.59 | NeoTron | but it's hard to see what effect changing a hybrid would have on dps |
| 16:56.02 | Psycho | Yeah |
| 16:56.05 | NeoTron | and surviability |
| 16:56.14 | NeoTron | we're also having one of our elementals go enhancement |
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| 16:56.28 | NeoTron | he has nearly a full set and just got the supremus and swp trash maces last night (both in the same night) |
| 16:56.36 | Psycho | What a jerk! |
| 16:57.02 | Psycho | I finally got leggings of channeled elements last night. |
| 16:57.11 | Psycho | I had goddamn spellstrike still. |
| 16:57.13 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/ofzkciv32mfgs?s=10747-10881 <-lawl |
| 16:57.25 | NeoTron | wish I consistently pulled that kind of dps |
| 16:58.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: also WTB vertical manabars |
| 16:58.25 | Ellipsis | raeps sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:58.51 | Julith | they already should be vertical if aranged left or right |
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| 17:00.33 | NeoTron | so the boomkin did 1835 dps in one attempt |
| 17:00.46 | NeoTron | I suspect she primarily did bad because she got a shitload of burn during the night |
| 17:00.53 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:58] <Julith> they already should be vertical if aranged left or right <--are not D: |
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| 17:01.41 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: i think i mean horizontal where you mean vertical |
| 17:01.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: i want them attached to the right but horizontal :P |
| 17:02.06 | Julith | ok: they already shoudl be vertical if aranged bottom or top |
| 17:02.17 | Julith | ahh |
| 17:02.42 | Prof_Albert | wtf: name, _, icon = GetSpellInfo(31818) should return "Life Tap" and its icon |
| 17:02.51 | Prof_Albert | the name is right |
| 17:03.09 | Prof_Albert | the link when calling GetSpellLink(31818) also shows life tap |
| 17:03.09 | Prof_Albert | but |
| 17:03.29 | Prof_Albert | the icon retrieved is "Spell_Holy_RighteousnessAura |
| 17:03.39 | Julith | whats the advance of horizontal growing bars at the left (or right)? |
| 17:03.46 | Nandini | one icon is probably for the spell you cast, one icon is probably for the debuff |
| 17:03.50 | durcyn | Prof_Albert: you should be using 27222 |
| 17:03.56 | durcyn | 31818 is the energize effect |
| 17:04.28 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: i can distinguish by rows and cols |
| 17:05.03 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: right col mana left col HP and rows per player |
| 17:05.19 | Prof_Albert | durcyn: the spellId is given by the combat event |
| 17:05.34 | sag_ich_nicht | which makes more sense then having one row MP one row HP one row MP one row HP etc. |
| 17:05.35 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 17:05.42 | Prof_Albert | then why does GetSpellLink(31818) return life tap for me? |
| 17:05.51 | durcyn | Prof_Albert: as i said, that's the energize effect |
| 17:05.54 | Julith | jeah but this also whould work with vertical growing manabars |
| 17:06.02 | Nandini | because that's also the name of one of Life Tap's effects |
| 17:06.13 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: yeah, but i like horizontal ones better :) |
| 17:06.15 | NivFreak | NeoTron: did you see my pasty from last night? |
| 17:06.26 | quiescens | the obvious solution is to turn your monitor on its side |
| 17:06.43 | sag_ich_nicht | quiescens: then my HP bars are wrong :) |
| 17:06.52 | Nandini | there are lots of quirky spells whose only purpose is to trigger another spell of the same name that adds buffs or debuffs or periodic healing or damage |
| 17:07.15 | Nandini | or in this case, and energize effect :) |
| 17:07.19 | Josh_Borke | Prof_Albert: according to wowhead, you want 27222 |
| 17:07.22 | Julith | pff, anyway, if you want something implement you shoudl ask adelea first, because its his addon and I wont commit anything to trunk without his permission |
| 17:07.28 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31818 is something else |
| 17:08.23 | durcyn | Josh_Borke: he's parsing SPELL_ENERGIZE log events |
| 17:08.24 | NeoTron | NivFreak: no |
| 17:08.34 | Julith | so if I whould implement something new for manabars I whould have to do it in Branch and ask adelea everytime for every trunk-merge :) |
| 17:08.38 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: is adelea on IRC? :) |
| 17:08.39 | NeoTron | and eek. we've had 89 brutallus wipes and never once hit enrage. :( |
| 17:08.41 | NeoTron | grr |
| 17:09.21 | Julith | no, but he has a thread in the forum |
| 17:09.24 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I'd say forum post first, /msg second. I don't monitor the channel at all times :P |
| 17:09.38 | Prof_Albert | durcyn: exactly and the way I see it right now, there is no way to solve that with GetSpellInfo(), it worked with libbabblespell |
| 17:10.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: if you'd care to slap it into branches or just give me a function to replace(i'm already using http://pastey.net/85921 anyway :P) that'd be awesome! :O |
| 17:10.16 | durcyn | Prof_Albert: you'd have to have an override table for spells with dumb/broken icons, basically |
| 17:10.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: also WTB textual mana indicator |
| 17:10.45 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: otherwise the bars are a bit useless :P |
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| 17:10.54 | durcyn | local icon = self.overrides[spellid] or select(3, GetSpellInfo(spellid)) |
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| 17:12.28 | Prof_Albert | durcyn: hmm... I think the spellName would be a better key for the table since the spellID 31818 can be anything |
| 17:12.29 | Julith | they weren't useles since...dunno how long GridManaBars already exists...they display a graphical feadback of the percent of the units mana...anyway I aggree that a textual indicator whould make sense, especially because it whould be a one liner |
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| 17:12.50 | Josh_Borke | Prof_Albert: the spellID 31818 can only be that spell |
| 17:13.03 | durcyn | Prof_Albert: why? you want to use the GetSpellInfo icons for the rest |
| 17:13.10 | Josh_Borke | Prof_Albert: that sentence makes no sense whatsoever. spellIDs are unique per spell, it's a 1 to 1 relationship |
| 17:13.22 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: which is my next problem, having the manabar attached at the right atm, my textual HP indicator is on the manabar, which is... well confusing to say the least. |
| 17:13.24 | durcyn | and imo you should just use it for everything and complain to blizzard that they're lazy about icons for hidden binary spells |
| 17:13.28 | Josh_Borke | why would you key a table based on something that points to multiple things? |
| 17:13.51 | Prof_Albert | a, I see now... 31818 is the energize effect of the life tap spell *headdesk* |
| 17:14.06 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 17:14.07 | sag_ich_nicht | FISKER- |
| 17:14.08 | Josh_Borke | (01:03:55 PM) durcyn: 31818 is the energize effect |
| 17:14.10 | sag_ich_nicht | show up |
| 17:14.16 | sag_ich_nicht | because you probably want to talk to Julith |
| 17:14.31 | durcyn | face, meet palm. palm, meet face. i'm sure you'll be fast friends. |
| 17:16.10 | Fisker- | do want adjustable width on the mana bars back : |
| 17:16.11 | Fisker- | :o |
| 17:16.12 | chiper | Zeksie: you around? |
| 17:16.21 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: agree'd |
| 17:16.21 | Zeksie | ye |
| 17:16.37 | sag_ich_nicht | Fisker-: i have to scale up grid now and then lower the height which is ugggggggggh |
| 17:16.41 | syeren | ckknight_, is there any trigger I could make in Parrot that would tell me my Grounding Totem has been destroyed other than the loss of the Aura? |
| 17:16.48 | syeren | Like it's actual death/destruction! |
| 17:16.50 | kenlyric | oh, did I miss a conversation where the changes to GMB makes sense? |
| 17:16.56 | syeren | I wish someone would make Shaman Friend work :< |
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| 17:17.18 | CIA-39 | 03kemayo 07dev * r70222 10BankStack/ (. BankStack.toc core.lua embeds.xml fu.lua): BankStack: Drycoded stab at using AceDB-3.0; no profile config yet. |
| 17:17.18 | sag_ich_nicht | kenlyric: they are... annoying, to say the least |
| 17:17.26 | sag_ich_nicht | i can understand the reasoning behind it tho |
| 17:17.32 | kenlyric | well, they add no new features but take them away |
| 17:17.34 | sag_ich_nicht | BUT it should reproduce all of the functionality imho >< |
| 17:17.39 | kenlyric | it's like, a half completed update |
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| 17:17.44 | sag_ich_nicht | yupp |
| 17:17.47 | sag_ich_nicht | ~lart Julith |
| 17:17.47 | purl | eats Julith and falls over dead |
| 17:17.47 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 17:17.52 | Julith | fisker: the width/height of the manabar is adjustable |
| 17:17.57 | kenlyric | no it's not |
| 17:18.00 | Nandini | i am somewhat excited to hear bosses start shouting at me in spanish, it will feel so much more like a telenovela |
| 17:18.09 | kenlyric | maybe in the lua |
| 17:18.30 | NeoTron | NivFreak: MagicDKP pastey - hrm. I might have to do a special hack for Kalecgos |
| 17:18.41 | NeoTron | I don't really watn to have to learn all friendly world bosses too.. |
| 17:18.44 | Julith | "frames->advanced->manabar->height (or width, dunno)" |
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| 17:19.02 | kenlyric | or hidden awayhidden! |
| 17:19.06 | kenlyric | heh :) |
| 17:19.17 | kenlyric | good, now make it return a text value :) |
| 17:19.17 | NeoTron | problem with kalecgos is that the dang demon ends up a friendly mob you loot |
| 17:19.23 | NeoTron | and, of course, no death event |
| 17:19.25 | Zeksie | syeren: if it's your own totems, you can catch PLAYER_TOTEM_UPDATE. otherwise i think you're stuck with checking auras until they fix death messages |
| 17:19.40 | syeren | :O |
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| 17:20.05 | Julith | kenlyric: "now make me a sandwhich" :) |
| 17:20.24 | syeren | Zeksie, what Condition would I put that under in Parrot? |
| 17:20.31 | syeren | As my Primary Condition, if possible. |
| 17:20.51 | NeoTron | NivFreak: as for Magic Marker - I did break things but I think I fixed all bugs if you use the "old" method |
| 17:20.55 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: sudo add back all the functionality and gimme horizontaly displayed manabar attached to the side |
| 17:21.03 | Julith | anything else missing which was in previous GridManaBars? |
| 17:21.14 | NeoTron | NivFreak: the NEW marking system is completely non-workign |
| 17:21.48 | kenlyric | was the change made for the purpose that eventually you could do more things with the mana value? |
| 17:21.51 | kenlyric | like, display it? |
| 17:21.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Julith: black jack, hookers |
| 17:22.32 | Julith | no it was made to reduce memory usage and cpu-time |
| 17:22.34 | Zeksie | syeren: no idea. don't use parrot :) |
| 17:22.45 | Zeksie | it's an event.. /shrug |
| 17:23.05 | sag_ich_nicht | oh |
| 17:23.06 | sag_ich_nicht | HI ZEKSIE |
| 17:23.11 | Zeksie | hai |
| 17:23.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie: x-perl aggro indicator sometimes fails to properly reset on death |
| 17:23.26 | kenlyric | k |
| 17:24.18 | Zeksie | yeah, saw that a few times. but can never get it to break when i want to test it |
| 17:24.39 | Zeksie | has something to do with not always getting UNIT_TARGET events. seems server sometimes doesn't feel like sharing |
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| 17:24.57 | Vulcanus | iz mi event. go wai plz. |
| 17:25.03 | NeoTron | I want blizz to release fixed death events already |
| 17:25.20 | NeoTron | no offense to grim reaper, but I really miss the death logs in Recount, not to mention WWS |
| 17:25.20 | CIA-39 | 03apoco 07v2 * r70223 10RBM/RBM/ (5 files in 3 dirs): RBM v2: Re-Added Skull Support, Added Partial FuBar Support. LSMv3. |
| 17:25.45 | durcyn | NeoTron: Expiration |
| 17:26.09 | Zeksie | NeoTron: no offence taken :) |
| 17:26.13 | kenlyric | well, my addon will remain useful for a little while longer then. |
| 17:26.28 | NeoTron | Zeksie: mainly because it's tricky to report somethign for the right person |
| 17:26.41 | Zeksie | oh? |
| 17:26.45 | NeoTron | one thing to make it better would be to let ti always display the target data if you got someone targeted |
| 17:26.58 | Zeksie | did you try the new quick view keybinding thing? |
| 17:27.00 | NeoTron | now if I accidently mouse over someone, a unit frame or anything it will report that instead |
| 17:27.04 | NeoTron | I did not |
| 17:27.09 | NeoTron | didn't know it existed :P |
| 17:27.37 | Zeksie | bsaically: keep it hidden. hold quiick view key and select in Grim the person you want. release the key and then it'll behave normally. press key again and it hides again |
| 17:28.19 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie: how do i get grimreaper not be suspended on every damn login? |
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| 17:28.43 | Zeksie | erm.. dunno.. never happened to me on any ace mods. |
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| 17:31.16 | CIA-39 | 03apoco 07v2 * r70224 10RBM/RBM/ (FunctionEnviroment.lua ModuleClasses/Base.lua): RBM v2: Fix aX related crashes |
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| 17:37.00 | NeoTron | ugh |
| 17:38.55 | Fisker- | almost exalted with sots |
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| 17:41.18 | CIA-39 | 03profalbert * r70226 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 17:41.18 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 17:41.18 | CIA-39 | + fixed the issue about displaying the wrong icon when casting "Life Tap" |
| 17:41.53 | Fisker- | 2000 rep left |
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| 17:42.52 | Poul|Raider | posible to do a /cast [target=Skull] or something like that? |
| 17:43.02 | kenlyric | sots |
| 17:43.15 | kenlyric | halp |
| 17:43.16 | durcyn | Poul|Raider: no, raid target icons are not valid tokens |
| 17:43.18 | Dashkal | I wish, but no |
| 17:43.25 | Fisker- | btw Julith my grid used to take up 2-3MB now it's only a bit under 1MB :O |
| 17:43.32 | Fisker- | gridmanabars must've been using a lot |
| 17:43.33 | Poul|Raider | oki durcyn |
| 17:45.18 | CIA-39 | 03neotron * r70227 10MagicDKP/MagicDKP.lua: MagicDKP: Use local time instead (incorrectly) attempting to to use game time. |
| 17:45.50 | ben___ | Heh, autofollow a healer and just mash the /cast [target=Skull] Frostbolt button :| |
| 17:45.57 | Prof_Albert | anyone can tell me which spellID is passed with the combat event, when parsing the damage from "Blade Flurry"? (It's obviously not 13877) |
| 17:46.13 | Dashkal | Why? rig up a lil servo over the 1 key :p |
| 17:47.05 | NeoTron | so if you try to get th game time as unix time it's a bad idea to get gametime hh:mm and then try to plop that into a date-map(i.e return from date() |
| 17:47.19 | NeoTron | because if local time just went past midnight and gametime did not you get a 24 hr error |
| 17:47.35 | charon | Prof_Albert: i just see spell_cast_success & _aura_applied with 13877, then later _aura_removed |
| 17:48.01 | NeoTron | charon: I think he means the actual attack that the aura triggers |
| 17:48.10 | sag_ich_nicht | [19:43] <Fisker-> btw Julith my grid used to take up 2-3MB now it's only a bit under 1MB :O <--:O |
| 17:48.12 | Prof_Albert | NeoTron: exactly |
| 17:48.16 | Dashkal | Can't you account for that by checking if local time crossed the point? (If it's drift from server + timezone diff pushes it over?) |
| 17:48.18 | NeoTron | 13877 is the buff that causes some attack to happen with a different id |
| 17:48.29 | Prof_Albert | charon: the bonus attack actually I think |
| 17:48.33 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I could but it's overly complex |
| 17:48.37 | Dashkal | fair enough |
| 17:48.43 | NeoTron | better then to just log using local time |
| 17:48.50 | NeoTron | and I guess I can add a timezone modifier |
| 17:48.56 | pastamancer | Fisker-: the old grid mana bars was pretty gross |
| 17:49.01 | Dashkal | Is this mod run only by the raidleader? |
| 17:49.10 | NeoTron | yes |
| 17:49.13 | NeoTron | it's a dkp tracker |
| 17:49.29 | Dashkal | local time + timezone modifier would be far simpler then :p |
| 17:49.37 | Dashkal | you don't need to the minute accuracy |
| 17:49.47 | NeoTron | might be able to figure the timezone out |
| 17:50.06 | NeoTron | by getting time gametime minus time() sort of a thing |
| 17:50.13 | Dashkal | You can guess pretty reasonably, but it'll get to be a pain with half hour zones |
| 17:50.15 | NeoTron | assuming you don't try to do it near midnight, of course :P |
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| 17:50.34 | NeoTron | a simple offset would be fine |
| 17:50.54 | Snago | Prof_Albert: My last log says it's 22482. |
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| 17:51.07 | Dashkal | It'll just miss from time to time when the user has a nasty clock skew. Just let them override if needed |
| 17:51.32 | NeoTron | well it will fail the same way if it crosses the date border |
| 17:51.39 | Dashkal | I have an old computer that manages to lose minutes per hour... So I've seen some pretty nasty skew |
| 17:51.45 | Prof_Albert | snago: thx |
| 17:51.47 | Dashkal | compare dates too? |
| 17:51.52 | Dashkal | erm, no need |
| 17:52.03 | NeoTron | I can't get the game date |
| 17:52.03 | Dashkal | if one says 00:01 and the other 23:55, that's a good hint |
| 17:52.06 | NeoTron | therein lies th eproblem |
| 17:52.33 | NeoTron | problem is there's not necessarily a way to figure out if I should move backwards or forward |
| 17:52.40 | Dashkal | mmm |
| 17:52.46 | NeoTron | think australia vs hawaii |
| 17:52.58 | Dashkal | well, unless you're dealing with the extreme case of ... oh yes, I forgot that one |
| 17:53.08 | Dashkal | for them, let them set it manually :p |
| 17:53.21 | NeoTron | basically without game date I have no clue |
| 17:53.33 | NeoTron | but reall |
| 17:53.38 | NeoTron | it's not exactly super important :P |
| 17:53.48 | NeoTron | I'll log with game time and export with a modifier if desired |
| 17:53.49 | Dashkal | not really, but it would be nice if we could query for server date... |
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| 17:54.12 | Dashkal | What I'd like to see is a hidden addon channel for OFFICER |
| 17:54.59 | Dashkal | What happens when you try to join a global channel that has no password, but you specify one anyways? |
| 17:55.04 | ben___ | SendAddonMessage("adjust_dkp:Dashkal:-100", "OFFICER") |
| 17:55.22 | Dashkal | ben___ serious? OFFICER has a shadow already? I thought it was only GUILD |
| 17:55.35 | Dashkal | cause that's actually more or less what I'm thinking |
| 17:55.55 | ben___ | I was not implying anything's existence |
| 17:55.57 | Dashkal | Stick a nexus board on OFFICER for talking behind the peon's backs |
| 17:56.12 | Dashkal | drat, and here I was hoping gullible really wasn't in the dictionary *sighs* |
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| 17:56.59 | ben___ | Just post everyone's public key in the officer notes and send messages encrypted with your private key to the regular guild addon channel. |
| 17:57.00 | Obelixprime | is there a way within quartz to have 2 decimal places? so rather than 1.4 see 1.35 or something on the cast bar? |
| 17:57.13 | Dashkal | meh, I'm trying to avoid having to encrypt things |
| 17:57.26 | Dashkal | Anybody know the answer to my question re global channels? |
| 17:57.29 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I kept using the old system |
| 17:57.30 | CIA-39 | 03profalbert * r70228 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 17:57.30 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 17:57.30 | CIA-39 | + the icon for the damage done by "Blade Flurry" should now display properly again (drycoded, feedback appreciated) |
| 17:57.34 | NivFreak | and something seriously changed |
| 17:57.44 | NivFreak | for 1, it lost my ignore settings completely |
| 17:57.54 | NivFreak | I also had to reset priorities for mobs that were CC'd |
| 17:57.57 | NivFreak | or they weren't marked as such |
| 17:58.10 | NivFreak | on top of that, it wasn't reusing marks that were on dead mobs |
| 17:58.15 | NivFreak | I had to manually clear them |
| 17:58.33 | NivFreak | and something about the way it was sweeping required 4-6 sweeps on the early TK trash to get all the marks up |
| 17:58.42 | NivFreak | it's in a pretty bad state from my point of view |
| 17:59.26 | Dashkal | ben___: OMFG I hadn't thought of that... public key in the notes... |
| 17:59.37 | Dashkal | thankyouthankyouthankyou you just solved one of my issues |
| 17:59.59 | Dashkal | Must see a player for the first time before you can validate anything from them (or have a trusted friend tell you) |
| 18:01.13 | ben___ | Dashkal: That might even be overdoing it. You can just put a symmetric key into a single designated key holder character's officer note. :| |
| 18:01.22 | ben___ | And, like, change that hourly |
| 18:01.24 | Dashkal | Though I still don't want to resort to encryption to keep officer-only posts officer-only. The overhead of encrypting the session key to every single officer will make my "Joe's a twit, we should kick him" note a few K |
| 18:01.51 | Dashkal | that could work as well |
| 18:02.08 | ben___ | If you just xor stuff together, you should not get any size overhead |
| 18:02.14 | Dashkal | but Encryption doesn't offer much benifit. I can accomplish much the same thing by simply sending these things only over WHISPER |
| 18:03.00 | Dashkal | use the guild shadow for announcing messages (so normals would be able to detect that there's activity) but just only pass messages to those with "set officer note" rights |
| 18:03.37 | Dashkal | either that or use a global, but that leads to hijacking attacks |
| 18:04.28 | ben___ | Well, whispers have more "overhead" because you have to send the same message to each recipient? |
| 18:04.41 | Dashkal | This is true, but necessary in some cases anyway |
| 18:05.08 | Dashkal | any board based on a global channel will have that regardless of my desires: globals have no shadow channel, so I'm sending over WHISPER anyway or having two different encoders |
| 18:05.23 | ben___ | I guess you could as well send the cyphertext into the guild channel and then send the decryption key via whispers |
| 18:05.33 | Dashkal | now _that_ could work |
| 18:06.16 | Dashkal | maybe, sync issues |
| 18:06.27 | Dashkal | if an officer logs off for a few days he's out of date on the current key |
| 18:07.10 | Dashkal | and I don't want to hardcode part of nexus to "Send the current officer board key to anybody who logs in with 'edit o note' rights" |
| 18:07.51 | Arrowmaster | dont hard code anything |
| 18:08.03 | ben___ | Do you not have sync issues anyway with regards to data storage? |
| 18:08.06 | Arrowmaster | i was in a guild once that let raiders send to ochat but not read it |
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| 18:08.17 | Dashkal | ben___: All sorts, but I have most of them hammered out |
| 18:08.19 | ben___ | I am not familiar with what nexus does |
| 18:08.27 | Dashkal | Nexus is a distrubted filesystem over wow |
| 18:08.37 | Dashkal | on top of it will be forums, crafting lists, and even tsignups |
| 18:08.56 | Zeksie | Antiarc: Chatter's being mean to me :( - targetted someone in raid. did /tt and it says "Tell Invalidtarget: "... you're checking UnitIsVisible or something? cos they're not |
| 18:08.57 | Dashkal | most of the sync issues are handled by the rule that only the author of a "file" can change it |
| 18:09.29 | Dashkal | right now I'm trying to puzzle out how to handle actualy message transmission |
| 18:09.44 | Dashkal | and I'm throwing edge cases at myself |
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| 18:10.45 | NeoTron | whoha this is stupid |
| 18:10.49 | NeoTron | http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/internetlife/2004-03-29-child-self-porn_x.htm |
| 18:10.54 | Dashkal | global channels taunt me so... I want to use them but the printable characters restrictions suck |
| 18:11.05 | NeoTron | how can you be charged for child porn charges for having nude pictures of yourself, taken by yourself? |
| 18:11.08 | NeoTron | wtf |
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| 18:11.24 | kenlyric | because the law is inspecific |
| 18:11.25 | Dashkal | It is a crime to harm yourself |
| 18:11.32 | Dashkal | You do not have that right |
| 18:11.44 | balstor | bitvh complain wiki bitch whine missing arguments grumble grumble |
| 18:11.58 | NeoTron | it's obviously .. err. stupid |
| 18:12.00 | kenlyric | sexual abuse of children |
| 18:12.05 | kenlyric | apparently masturbation is now sexual abuse of children |
| 18:12.05 | NeoTron | but in the US, what else should you expect? |
| 18:12.06 | NivFreak | NeoTron: no thoughts on my comments? |
| 18:12.09 | NivFreak | :P |
| 18:12.47 | NeoTron | NivFreak: only that with the old system it seems to work fine for me |
| 18:13.02 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I've never used your new system |
| 18:13.09 | NivFreak | it was disabled by default, and I never turned it off |
| 18:13.15 | Dashkal | I thought (seriously) that masturbation _was_ illegal in some states... |
| 18:13.17 | NivFreak | all of those problems are with the old marking method |
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| 18:14.25 | Arrowmaster | anything but vaginal missionary possition between a man and a woman is or atleast was illegal in some states |
| 18:14.40 | Dashkal | *cough*utah*cough* |
| 18:14.51 | Fisker- | do want |
| 18:15.06 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: only because you havent had it yet |
| 18:15.14 | NeoTron | I understand taht |
| 18:15.19 | NeoTron | however as I said I haven't had any issues |
| 18:15.26 | NeoTron | and it definitely hasn't "reset any ignores" or anythin |
| 18:15.41 | Dashkal | Back on topic: Is there yet a library that can take a chunk of raw binary data and escape it so I can break it up and send it over a global channel? |
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| 18:15.55 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I can say with 100% certainty that it lost my ignore settings |
| 18:15.57 | Arrowmaster | Dashkal: AceSerializer-3.0 |
| 18:16.00 | NivFreak | I had to reset them |
| 18:16.04 | Dashkal | oh yeah, AS is printable... |
| 18:16.18 | NeoTron | I haven't touched them |
| 18:16.24 | sag_ich_nicht | btw. |
| 18:16.24 | sag_ich_nicht | http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACETWO-68 |
| 18:16.26 | sag_ich_nicht | D: |
| 18:16.28 | Dashkal | mmm, need a serializer that uses binary (excluding \0) data too so I can have less overhead when I don't have that restriction |
| 18:16.35 | NivFreak | NeoTron: your entire priority system changed again |
| 18:16.36 | NeoTron | I added cc priority as an optional option |
| 18:16.38 | NivFreak | right |
| 18:16.41 | NivFreak | and that broke it |
| 18:16.42 | Dashkal | lest nexus becomes worse than GC |
| 18:16.44 | NeoTron | not for me |
| 18:17.11 | Arrowmaster | Dashkal: youll need to write your own for that one, since you can fine tune it to your exact data input |
| 18:17.39 | Dashkal | Arrowmaster: Yeah, thinking that. If I want to overkill I can do some light data compression. In most cases the data will be printable text |
| 18:17.55 | Dashkal | but I'll go there if and only if I need to to reduce data sizes |
| 18:18.25 | Dashkal | I'll have to have actual working code before I can make that sort of decision |
| 18:18.36 | NeoTron | NivFreak: ignore => priority == 6 |
| 18:18.47 | NeoTron | I don't touch priority, nor does the old system use ccpriority |
| 18:18.50 | Dashkal | is very glad he blocked off the comm layer from the rest of the code |
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| 18:19.50 | NeoTron | NivFreak: since 1) the upgrade process only adds ccpriority = 6, 2) the old code doesn't look at ccpriority and 3) priority remains the same |
| 18:20.20 | NeoTron | I fail to see how it's suddenly not working. especially since, 4) my data is fine |
| 18:20.20 | balstor | question: is there any desire for a new pricwatch i one mostly coded up and could release it in a week or so??? |
| 18:20.24 | NivFreak | NeoTron: ok, so here's what I can tell you |
| 18:20.27 | NivFreak | SUNDAY |
| 18:20.30 | NivFreak | we go to hyjal |
| 18:20.34 | NivFreak | I have all ghouls being ignored |
| 18:20.37 | NivFreak | then never get marked |
| 18:20.46 | NivFreak | I update MM last night before our hyjal raid |
| 18:20.52 | NivFreak | first wave, all ghouls get tank targets |
| 18:20.55 | NivFreak | I go into MM |
| 18:21.06 | NivFreak | pull up the mob, it has a tank prio that is not ignore |
| 18:22.12 | NeoTron | 1) you changed the data, 2) someone else running Magic Marker broadcasted data that overrode yours |
| 18:22.17 | NeoTron | I did not change it |
| 18:22.22 | Julith | Fisker-: btw Julith my grid used to take up 2-3MB now it's only a bit under 1MB :O <- nice to hear at least one good thing :) |
| 18:22.33 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:22.38 | sag_ich_nicht | WHO CARES ABOUT STATIC MEMORY |
| 18:22.42 | CIA-39 | 03jncl * r70229 10Skinner/UIElements2.lua: Skinner: Bugfix for ActionBars (take 3) |
| 18:22.43 | sag_ich_nicht | CPU usage is where it's at! |
| 18:22.45 | NeoTron | or 3) wow failed to save the data and it got reset when you saw the mob again |
| 18:22.55 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: memory matters. |
| 18:23.05 | Funkeh` | my memory sucks |
| 18:23.06 | Funkeh` | literaly |
| 18:23.15 | sag_ich_nicht | 04- 02Windows XP 04has been running 022days 2hrs 23mins 17secs04 Memory Usage: 021846/3327MB (55.49%) 04Processor: 022-AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+, 999MHz, 1152KB 04HDD Free Space: (02C: 235779MB04/02596.17GB04) (02D: CDROM04) (02F: CDROM04) (02G: 310427MB04/02698.64GB04) |
| 18:23.17 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: nope |
| 18:23.25 | sag_ich_nicht | (sorry for the colors, i tried to get rid of them already :P) |
| 18:23.36 | sag_ich_nicht | memory doesn't matter |
| 18:23.37 | sag_ich_nicht | :P |
| 18:23.47 | Funkeh` | I have ram in my brain |
| 18:23.57 | Funkeh` | lost when the power goes out |
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| 18:24.36 | Dashkal | oh god the colors... |
| 18:24.41 | Julith | memory does matter because to much of it generally indicates much worse problems |
| 18:24.53 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: memory matters not because the computer runs out of memory but because with a large memory use for lua garbage collection times, and thus cpu time, increases |
| 18:25.24 | NivFreak | NeoTron: if someone else is running magic marker it would just accept all the defaults? |
| 18:25.34 | sag_ich_nicht | NeoTron: just disable GC :P |
| 18:25.37 | Dashkal | I hate to take the troll's side but he did mention static, not increasing |
| 18:25.40 | sag_ich_nicht | (yes i went there) |
| 18:25.51 | sag_ich_nicht | also |
| 18:25.53 | sag_ich_nicht | i said static |
| 18:25.57 | NeoTron | sag_ich_nicht: well it would be nice if lua had proper reference counting |
| 18:25.58 | NivFreak | NeoTron: and I absolutely did not change the data |
| 18:25.58 | Funkeh` | you are mistaking memory with emory growth |
| 18:26.05 | sag_ich_nicht | Funkeh` |
| 18:26.08 | Primer | emo growth? |
| 18:26.09 | sag_ich_nicht | [20:22] <sag_ich_nicht> WHO CARES ABOUT STATIC MEMORY |
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| 18:26.21 | sag_ich_nicht | i just said [20:25] <sag_ich_nicht> NeoTron: just disable GC :P to troll NeoTron :P |
| 18:26.55 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: due to lack of reference counting, the gc must go through all memory to detect crap to release. I know it is incremental but I also know for sure it causes issues at high levels of memory use |
| 18:27.07 | sag_ich_nicht | ya |
| 18:27.08 | CIA-39 | 03apoco 07v2 * r70230 10RBM/RBM/: RBM v2: Added LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0 |
| 18:27.09 | sag_ich_nicht | it does |
| 18:27.11 | NeoTron | NivFreak: depends on how it is configured |
| 18:27.19 | NeoTron | NivFreak: by default accepts nothing |
| 18:27.24 | NivFreak | NeoTron: then that did not happen |
| 18:27.39 | NeoTron | I am telling you for sure though that the data is not broken |
| 18:27.41 | Dashkal | what GC method does wow's lua interp use, anyway? Mark+Sweep? |
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| 18:27.51 | NeoTron | if it's broken it's due to some other reason |
| 18:27.52 | NivFreak | NeoTron: dude, you're basically calling your customer a liar |
| 18:27.57 | NeoTron | yes I am |
| 18:27.59 | NivFreak | alright |
| 18:28.01 | NivFreak | fuck you then |
| 18:28.01 | NeoTron | because it cannot happen |
| 18:28.08 | NivFreak | why would I make it up |
| 18:28.13 | NivFreak | I have no motivation to |
| 18:28.20 | NeoTron | something went wrogn that was not my fault or caused by my changes |
| 18:28.24 | NeoTron | it is absolutely impossible |
| 18:28.32 | NivFreak | because bugs never happen |
| 18:28.33 | NivFreak | am I right? |
| 18:28.49 | NeoTron | I have looked at the code. again. |
| 18:28.55 | NeoTron | no change affects priority |
| 18:29.07 | NivFreak | did you change your savedvars format? |
| 18:29.22 | NivFreak | this didn't just happen in hyjal |
| 18:29.25 | NeoTron | again, waht did the priority change to? |
| 18:29.29 | NeoTron | and no I have not changed it |
| 18:29.29 | NivFreak | it happened on teh AoE packs for solarian as well |
| 18:29.40 | NivFreak | I think it was set to medium tank prio |
| 18:29.43 | NivFreak | instead of ignore |
| 18:29.47 | NivFreak | which would be the defaults, right? |
| 18:29.49 | NeoTron | that is default |
| 18:29.54 | NeoTron | there's nothing to SET it to default |
| 18:30.01 | NeoTron | so likely you got it via someone else using it |
| 18:30.02 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: tell me if you find any issues with that LFBP |
| 18:30.03 | NivFreak | so maybe it lost the ignore prio? |
| 18:30.11 | NeoTron | there MIGHT be a bug in accepting data when you shouldn't |
| 18:30.14 | NeoTron | no no |
| 18:30.17 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I haven't enabled sharing, do you have it on by default? |
| 18:30.18 | NeoTron | it cannot "lose the prio" |
| 18:30.21 | Apoco | Arrowmaster: keke |
| 18:30.24 | NeoTron | it was overrrideen |
| 18:30.32 | Apoco | its working better than it did when I tried it for aXRS |
| 18:30.34 | NivFreak | ok, let me pop open my wow and see if it has sharing on |
| 18:30.40 | NeoTron | "ignore" => priority = 6, medium => priority = 3 |
| 18:31.09 | Apoco | Arrowmaster: is it ok so send it live with that from branches or will it break shit to all hell. |
| 18:31.13 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: you can check the code in the OpenMenu function for the undocumented setting i added |
| 18:31.27 | Apoco | kk |
| 18:31.32 | Arrowmaster | Apoco: Omen just includes a hardcopy of it |
| 18:31.38 | Apoco | gotcha |
| 18:32.05 | NeoTron | defaults are off, the check to prevent from being processed it is present |
| 18:32.28 | Apoco | lawl @ bl failure on wowjutsu |
| 18:32.39 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 18:32.45 | NivFreak | bl? |
| 18:33.32 | Primer | How can I contact people via their wowace svn login? I'd like to push out a new build of my addon, but I'd like the translations to be complete before I do so |
| 18:33.58 | sag_ich_nicht | check their wiki account for an email address |
| 18:33.58 | sag_ich_nicht | imho |
| 18:34.18 | sag_ich_nicht | everyone who has an SVN account has to have an wiki account |
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| 18:34.56 | Primer | sag_ich_nicht: thanks |
| 18:35.07 | Dashkal | hmm, wow uses the lua 5.1's incremental GC *begins searching for technical docs on that* |
| 18:35.33 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I have no sharing turned on |
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| 18:36.18 | Dashkal | Considering that Nexus can and will hover around 30+ megs if you let it, I really gotta care what that'll do to the GC engine |
| 18:36.25 | Dashkal | (Static, not increasing) |
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| 18:37.18 | stew_a | omen seems to be fairly memory hungry in hyjal isnt it |
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| 18:37.43 | Fisker- | it ate my babies |
| 18:37.45 | dylanm | As expected. |
| 18:38.13 | NeoTron | NivFreak: do you have any instance with ignores that you have not visited since upgrading? |
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| 18:39.44 | Arrowmaster | hmm wowjutsu is broken, says guild was last updated today but theres no new loot since the 13th |
| 18:40.08 | Psycho | wowjutsu is broken. In other news, the Sun is shining. |
| 18:40.20 | Psycho | "Humans discover fire" |
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| 18:40.35 | dylanm | Anything based on the Armory is going to foul up constantly. |
| 18:41.42 | rubik | armory should ban anyone/anything pulling too much data |
| 18:41.45 | rubik | problem solved |
| 18:42.07 | Primer | seems I can't find any email for a wowace svn user in the wiki |
| 18:42.23 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r70231 10Omniscience/: Omniscience: clobber this piece of crap. |
| 18:42.24 | Dashkal | lol, yeah, their "guild jumper" dection is pretty broken |
| 18:42.28 | Dashkal | BS has never stepped foot in mag |
| 18:43.19 | Dashkal | oh *shudder* it's picking up one of the twits who jumped as still being in ours. |
| 18:43.45 | Dashkal | I don't suppose there's a way to pester them to remove someone from our roster (and everything they added) |
| 18:44.44 | Arrowmaster | might be able to, but they wont remove the person entirely since they need to record that the person got it all in a certain guild and not their current guild |
| 18:45.03 | Dashkal | Just as long as our guild doesn't get mag credit because of him |
| 18:45.07 | Dashkal | wtb accurate progression |
| 18:45.23 | kadrahil | Tekkub: poke |
| 18:45.29 | Tekkub | ow |
| 18:45.32 | Tekkub | lower |
| 18:45.35 | kadrahil | :O |
| 18:45.41 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r70232 10Omniscience/ (. Omniscience.toc core.lua embeds.xml): Omniscience: import Ace3/LibBars version. Now tracks group cooldowns, target casts, target buffs, target cooldowns, and crowd control with fancy bars. Alpha quality, proof of concept, will eat your babies, etc. |
| 18:45.44 | kadrahil | Tekkub: i has an issue with tourguide on my mac i'll get back to you in a second with |
| 18:45.57 | kadrahil | Tekkub: i need to get a copy of the actual error =) |
| 18:47.38 | Arrowmaster | wowjutsu is funny, we have the insignias for clearing kara, gruul, and mag multiple times but not for somebody having full t4 (perty sure somebody has to have it) and no insignia for clearing ZA multiple times but weve done it tons of time |
| 18:47.54 | Dashkal | yeah |
| 18:48.04 | Dashkal | I mostly ignore it. Oh well, I keep our wowwiki entry up to date |
| 18:48.12 | Dashkal | And that one _is_ accurate. |
| 18:48.17 | Arrowmaster | and im guessing the full t6 one is not going to be a lot harder to get since we didnt get it before |
| 18:48.38 | Arrowmaster | er is now going |
| 18:48.38 | Dashkal | I'll put mag on there when we earn it, not when some scrub guild hops and gets something |
| 18:48.45 | chiper | meh, full T4 isnt worth it |
| 18:48.55 | CIA-39 | 03kagaro * r70233 10kgPanelsConfig/ (ArtHelper.lua Locales/kgPanels-enUS.lua kgPanelsConfig.lua): kgPanelsConfig: Added a way to change artwork paths on the fly without having to delete and re-add them. allows for faster validation. |
| 18:49.09 | Dashkal | chiper: agreed. I'll never use the chest |
| 18:49.15 | Dashkal | though I want mag dead anyway |
| 18:49.26 | chiper | occasionally I'll where my T4 set while farming on my mage, that's the only time the set bonus is worth it |
| 18:49.50 | chiper | but the stats are all weak, there's other kara drops + pre-sunwell badge loot that's better stats |
| 18:49.52 | Dashkal | but I'm a feral kitty... pvp gear mixed with tanking gear works wonderfully. mmm, crit immunity |
| 18:50.26 | estala | Killed twins but no t4 insignia |
| 18:50.26 | estala | woo |
| 18:50.43 | Dashkal | wtb crush midigation. I can accept that druids will never get crush immunity, but I want a stat that's -crush% |
| 18:50.58 | NeoTron | NivFreak: and I'm asking because you could email me or pastey your saved variables |
| 18:51.01 | Tekkub | crush is going away, so you'll never get that |
| 18:51.02 | estala | imo, just remove crushings they're stupid anyway |
| 18:51.09 | Dashkal | Tekkub: source? |
| 18:51.12 | NeoTron | Dashkal: SWP doesn't have crushings |
| 18:51.18 | estala | Sacrolash Crushes! |
| 18:51.24 | Dashkal | NeoTron: I'm a kara scrub. I will never see SWP |
| 18:51.30 | Arrowmaster | oh it doesnt? |
| 18:51.31 | NeoTron | ok.. kalecgos and brutallus don't crush :P |
| 18:51.37 | Tekkub | don't have one, but yea look at the newest instances they don't have crush |
| 18:51.45 | Dashkal | Fair enough |
| 18:51.51 | Nandini | doesn't getting hit less mean getting crushed less? |
| 18:51.51 | estala | Sacrolash does :\ |
| 18:51.54 | estala | and it's a nuisance :| |
| 18:51.56 | Dashkal | Crush going away will be amazing for me. |
| 18:52.00 | Arrowmaster | archimonde doesnt crush either |
| 18:52.07 | NeoTron | select bosses don't crush |
| 18:52.07 | Tekkub | last I heard goal was that wrath it'd be no more in the new content |
| 18:52.08 | Dashkal | Nandini: Sadly no, not unless I push crush right to the end of the attack table |
| 18:52.09 | estala | but yeah, most all bosses don't crush any more |
| 18:52.14 | Dashkal | For a druid that doesn't happen |
| 18:52.29 | NeoTron | they realize that crushing blows cause a problem with itemization |
| 18:52.34 | Tekkub | but removing it from old content would fuck up the balance |
| 18:52.41 | NeoTron | and maeks it hard to increase boss damage without adding random chance instabigs |
| 18:52.47 | Dashkal | I'd have no complaints with that... |
| 18:52.49 | Arrowmaster | theyre probably doing it because otherwise deathknights would be fucking useless since they can only use 2hand weapons |
| 18:53.00 | Dashkal | Instagibs would be why I'm complaining about crush :p |
| 18:53.08 | kadrahil | Tekkub: well dangit, now i can't figure out if it's tourguide, or tomtom, or what |
| 18:53.15 | Tekkub | yea with DK you've now got half the tanks without shields |
| 18:53.16 | kadrahil | or whenever i use them both together |
| 18:53.34 | Tekkub | tomtom nil about data or something? |
| 18:53.45 | Tekkub | I've seen and kerg too, dunno if clad's fixed it yet |
| 18:53.48 | Primer | pardon my ignorance but...how does one delete a frame? The goal being to allow a user to reset a frame via a button in the bliz interface. I was simply going to delete it, reset the profile vars, and and recreate it |
| 18:53.52 | kadrahil | Tekkub: i don't remember now =( i just got a message that said your addons are causing large amounts of errors |
| 18:53.58 | Arrowmaster | Primer: you dont |
| 18:54.13 | Dashkal | Primer: Bad shortcut, bad :p Just redo the values in it |
| 18:54.14 | Tekkub | TG taints if quest tracking is toggled in combat |
| 18:54.16 | Primer | you can't just delete a frame |
| 18:54.23 | Tekkub | but it's not broken anything that I'm aware of |
| 18:54.29 | Primer | hrmm |
| 18:54.29 | kadrahil | Tekkub: hmm |
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| 18:54.44 | Tekkub | so I've not really cared to fix that |
| 18:55.17 | Dashkal | If I remember correctly slouken (or at least a blue in the UI forums) mentioned that there's too much overhead to support frame deletion and we should just get comfortable with recycling |
| 18:55.24 | Fisker- | wooo |
| 18:55.28 | Primer | ok |
| 18:55.32 | Fisker- | max exalted with scale of the sands |
| 18:55.44 | Tekkub | There's very little reason to delet frames anyway |
| 18:55.48 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: how long in hyjal? |
| 18:56.02 | Dashkal | Exactly, frames can almost always be reused. |
| 18:56.14 | ckknight_ | Tekkub: yea, but I wish I had the option, sometimes it'd be easier than recycling |
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| 18:56.28 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: with the new rep, probably 2 clears or something :P |
| 18:56.33 | Tekkub | the advantage is in delaying creation until they are needed, not deleteing em to, what, free up a tiny bit of memory |
| 18:56.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 18:56.40 | Arrowmaster | its like 7k rep a run |
| 18:56.51 | NeoTron | man back in old days we got 2.5k per run and WE LIKED IT |
| 18:56.52 | Dashkal | eh, I got out of the habit of UI disposing when I dabbled into SWT (Eclipse programming). Never looked back |
| 18:56.54 | Arrowmaster | vs the old less than 2k |
| 18:56.59 | Tekkub | ckknight_, I'm fine with it, but then I don't frame-recycle either |
| 18:57.30 | NeoTron | <-- hooman |
| 18:57.31 | Arrowmaster | hmm i wonder, i think i might have a way to delete a frame |
| 18:57.34 | ckknight_ | Dashkal: does SWT just keep things around forever? |
| 18:57.41 | ckknight_ | Arrowmaster: ...? |
| 18:58.02 | Arrowmaster | or maybe not delete it but leave nothing but the tiny blank userdata left |
| 18:58.10 | Dashkal | ckknight_: CWT doesn't even allow you to remove a component from another. It does support .dispose() but its use is highly discouraged outside of bundle cleanup |
| 18:58.24 | ckknight_ | okay |
| 18:58.26 | Tekkub | Arrowmaster, that's just deleting the lua side... the frame's still there |
| 18:58.32 | Dashkal | erm, SWT* |
| 18:59.01 | NeoTron | I am curious about something. I wonder if an elemental shaman or a resto shaman is best dps increase for a warlock |
| 18:59.14 | NeoTron | reason I ask is ofc wrath vs mana tide totems |
| 18:59.16 | Dashkal | I saw someone mentioning once that you can child.dispose() to effect a removal and he was promptly smacked harder than i was by Tekkub when I suggested using {...} to get at params |
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| 18:59.21 | NeoTron | given that the spell hit from wrath always goes wasted |
| 18:59.34 | Pazza_ | There has been many posts about deleting frames. It isn't possible. Slouken said he wont implement it because of the overhead of doing so. |
| 19:00.22 | Tekkub | Dashkal, you can remove all reference to the frame in lua-space, but it still exists in C-space and slow's said we can't destroy it there |
| 19:00.35 | NeoTron | Implementing creation but not deletion, to me, is sort of like implementing addition but not subtraction |
| 19:00.36 | Josh_Borke | just recycle your damn frames |
| 19:00.38 | Josh_Borke | it's not that hard |
| 19:00.39 | Dashkal | Tekkub: Yep yep, so I intend to avoid that situation |
| 19:00.50 | Josh_Borke | neotron: it is nothing like that |
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| 19:01.02 | Tekkub | recycle or delay creation until it's absolutely needed... whichever is easier |
| 19:01.04 | Dashkal | more like alloc() without free() |
| 19:01.11 | Dashkal | which is survivable |
| 19:01.13 | NeoTron | it was clearly not designed with uses outside blizzard own use in mind |
| 19:01.15 | Tekkub | if you need one checkbox a lot in different situations, recycle |
| 19:01.30 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.41 | Tekkub | it was clearly designed around XML frame creation.... |
| 19:01.42 | NeoTron | but it's odd that it'd eb so amazingly ineffective to implement |
| 19:01.48 | NeoTron | true |
| 19:01.49 | Tekkub | lua creation was hacked in later |
| 19:02.18 | Dashkal | I' |
| 19:02.20 | NeoTron | essentially though, it was designed to have fixed, permanent frames |
| 19:02.29 | Josh_Borke | yep |
| 19:02.36 | NeoTron | not creative dynamic stuff - heck even to this day blizzard refuses to make frames movable and resizable |
| 19:02.37 | Dashkal | I'm betting that frames are stored in a contiguous, unbroken chain in C |
| 19:02.40 | Josh_Borke | think XML |
| 19:03.11 | Tekkub | Neo, you mean their frames? yea why would they when addons can? |
| 19:03.12 | Josh_Borke | not true neotron |
| 19:03.14 | NeoTron | and yes I know my comment is unrelated to deleting frames btu blizzard shows a continued unwillingness to maek things interactive |
| 19:03.14 | Josh_Borke | spells are frames |
| 19:03.24 | Dashkal | so when they do their frame thing it's for (f = frames; f != null; f++) |
| 19:03.36 | Primer | Since I already set a default for a AceDB profile, could I just do something like: MyAddon.db.profile = DBDefault.profile ? |
| 19:03.44 | NeoTron | I'm speaking of frames such as character panes, config ui etc |
| 19:03.50 | Tekkub | blue makes the default UI work, their goal isn't configurability, that's what addons are for |
| 19:03.57 | Arrowmaster | Primer: to what? |
| 19:04.10 | Dashkal | options panel *sighs* |
| 19:04.16 | balstor | Anyone got a good formula for scaleing text based off a parent frame or should I just multiply it out? |
| 19:04.20 | NeoTron | it always was the main complaint I had with WoW when coming from SWG |
| 19:04.22 | Primer | arrowmaster: to reset the variables |
| 19:04.25 | NeoTron | the UI being so damn static |
| 19:04.37 | Arrowmaster | Primer: use the AceDB reset function |
| 19:04.41 | NeoTron | Tekkub: and for example movable frames, that allows me to move stuff liek char pane, seems to enjoy being buggy |
| 19:04.43 | Primer | arrowmaster: I'm making a bliz interface option that resets the look of the frame back to the default |
| 19:04.44 | Dashkal | That complaint is why so many addons exist to outright replace the default frames |
| 19:04.55 | Tekkub | Neo, go play FFXI, you'll never complain about the WoW UI |
| 19:05.00 | Dashkal | not let you move the char pane, but replace it |
| 19:05.10 | Primer | arrowmaster: MyAddon.db.profile:reset() ? |
| 19:05.17 | NeoTron | Tekkub: the fact that there exists a worse UI doesn't mean I can't comment on this ;-) |
| 19:05.25 | Arrowmaster | Primer: is this AceDB-2.0 or AceDB-3.0? |
| 19:05.27 | Primer | 3 |
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| 19:05.54 | Tekkub | think: has to work on a console (PS2/Sexbox360 later)... and PC users can't be allowed to have a "better" ui |
| 19:06.07 | NeoTron | don't get me wrong the ability to modify the UI is the main reason WoW has such a long lasting appeal |
| 19:06.14 | Primer | ResetProfile |
| 19:06.16 | NeoTron | if I ws stuck with the default UI I wouldn't be playing WoW today most likely |
| 19:06.23 | kadrahil | Tekkub: |
| 19:06.28 | kadrahil | Tekkub: it's in tomtom apparently |
| 19:06.32 | Tekkub | oh yea, you think raiding would have done as well without CTRA there in the first year or so? hell no |
| 19:06.36 | Dashkal | if you were stuck wiht the default UI it would be better tuned to raiding and such. The default UI is tuned towards newbies |
| 19:06.39 | kadrahil | TomTom.lua: 605: attempt to index local 'data' (a nil value) |
| 19:06.44 | cladhaire | can someone tell me what is causing it? |
| 19:06.47 | Tekkub | kadrahil, yea that's the one |
| 19:06.55 | kadrahil | Tekkub: ahh |
| 19:06.57 | Tekkub | clad, not sure exactly |
| 19:06.59 | NeoTron | still feel they should add a simple "allow frames to be moved" option in the default ui |
| 19:07.18 | Tekkub | it's prolly TG related, but the stack trace doesn't show TG at all so I have no clue |
| 19:07.26 | Arrowmaster | Primer: yeah MyAddon.db:ResetProfile() looks like it |
| 19:07.27 | Primer | arrowmaster: just not sure 1) what object to call it from, and 2) if it'll affect other characters |
| 19:07.28 | NeoTron | it's also really annoying how opening one frame causes another frame to be closed |
| 19:07.46 | Arrowmaster | Primer: it will if they use the same profile |
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| 19:07.49 | Tekkub | NeoTron, get widscreen then you can open 3 :) |
| 19:08.04 | Arrowmaster | you can open 3 without widescreen |
| 19:08.08 | NeoTron | Tekkub: except wow closes them for me? I run in 1920x1200... |
| 19:08.19 | NeoTron | some windows are mutually exclusive |
| 19:08.30 | Dashkal | WTB char screen and auction pane open at the same time |
| 19:08.33 | NeoTron | and I've never seen more than 2 open |
| 19:08.48 | Dashkal | NeoTron: char, social, and spellbook can be open at once |
| 19:08.51 | Arrowmaster | what ui scale? |
| 19:09.00 | NeoTron | minimum ui scale |
| 19:09.03 | NeoTron | 0.67 or whatever it is |
| 19:09.09 | Dashkal | I run at .7ish |
| 19:09.12 | Arrowmaster | i can open 3 @ 1600x1200 at 0.64 |
| 19:09.23 | kadrahil | man |
| 19:09.30 | kadrahil | i wish my gf wouldn't help me level alts sometimes |
| 19:09.37 | kadrahil | she doesn't get the fact that i get less xp when she groups with me |
| 19:10.23 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r70234 10Omniscience/: Omniscience: externals and such |
| 19:10.32 | kadrahil | i even proved to her |
| 19:10.43 | kadrahil | 90 xp when she's not grouped and doesn't help me vs 20 xp when she is grouped |
| 19:10.44 | kadrahil | per kill |
| 19:10.47 | NeoTron | so |
| 19:10.50 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/zzpucup5jbpr3?s=6420-6772&c=wrl <-- wtf? |
| 19:10.57 | Dashkal | omniscience... can it tell me what loot the boss is gonna drop for me? :p |
| 19:11.04 | NeoTron | what's with the firelocks? |
| 19:11.19 | Tekkub | 5 20xp kills in the time it takes you to make one 90xp kill.... |
| 19:11.27 | Tekkub | same EXP, finish quests faster |
| 19:11.34 | Tekkub | so, stop your fucking bitching |
| 19:11.34 | kadrahil | ehh true, i guess |
| 19:11.38 | kadrahil | LOL |
| 19:11.53 | CIA-39 | 03starinnia * r70235 10StatBlocks_Ammo/StatBlocks_Ammo.lua: StatBlocks_Ammo: Fix the no icon alignment bug |
| 19:12.08 | Arrowmaster | wtf firelocks |
| 19:12.19 | NeoTron | it's not rare |
| 19:12.23 | Tekkub | when you have someone burning down mobs with no downtime, you DO level faster |
| 19:12.24 | NeoTron | I am not sure .. why |
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| 19:13.43 | Arrowmaster | they added 10% haste to incinerate right? |
| 19:13.49 | NeoTron | right |
| 19:13.56 | NeoTron | my incinerate would be about 2s cast |
| 19:14.25 | NeoTron | hard to test thugh when you have shadow dmg on the wpn and a shadow dmg cloak |
| 19:14.35 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 19:14.43 | cladhaire | kadrahil: uploaded a fix |
| 19:14.46 | NeoTron | but I wonde if the reason could be flamecap |
| 19:14.48 | cladhaire | already had it commited, just needed to push |
| 19:14.57 | Arrowmaster | flamecap? |
| 19:15.28 | NeoTron | Also increases fire spell damage by up to 80. Lasts 1 minute. |
| 19:15.44 | NeoTron | it's a flask of extra damage for 1 minute every 3 minutes |
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| 19:15.57 | Arrowmaster | you mean pot? |
| 19:16.00 | NeoTron | no |
| 19:16.08 | NeoTron | 80 extra dmg == equivalent of a pure death flask |
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| 19:16.18 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70236 10Threat-2.0/ (Threat-2.0.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-2.0: fix today's drycode a bit |
| 19:16.55 | NeoTron | man I love how wowarmory fucks up firefox when it's slow |
| 19:17.06 | Dashkal | Heh, last night was funny. Most the guild had badly old threat versions and in the meeting I demonstrated how we can tell who's old by hitting the magic annoy button. |
| 19:17.32 | Dashkal | Had a raid of about 15 people and 10 whispers flashed by when I hit it |
| 19:19.42 | Dashkal | Kind of nice to have that in your face "YES WE KNOW YOU DIDN'T UPDATE" button handy at the start of a raid. |
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| 19:23.43 | charon | is there a way to have event callbacks throw an error instead of just failing silently? |
| 19:24.16 | charon | Dashkal: i should start actually broadcasting my branch's revision |
| 19:24.59 | Dashkal | I'm just sick of people lying to my face "Oh yeah I updated 10 mins ago!" |
| 19:25.03 | charon | "what do you mean you can't 'find' revision 70236! go download it already!" |
| 19:25.07 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 19:25.08 | nevcairiel | charon: like what? |
| 19:25.40 | nevcairiel | the event thing |
| 19:25.45 | charon | nevcairiel: whenever i mess up the C_L_E_U handler in threat, it just does nothing, presumably because it fails at some point but the exception is caught and dropped |
| 19:26.03 | nevcairiel | why is it dropped? |
| 19:26.17 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: we're now considering testing it out |
| 19:26.19 | nevcairiel | its using AceEvent-3.0 for that right? |
| 19:26.27 | nevcairiel | that should forward the error to your errorhandler |
| 19:26.29 | NeoTron | except we all need to change.. cloaks and weapon enchant |
| 19:26.46 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: yeah if i had a supply of flamecaps it might be interesting |
| 19:26.55 | NeoTron | I am pretty sure I have a bunch not sure how much |
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| 19:27.01 | nevcairiel | unless Antiarc does some pcall'ing himself ;) |
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| 19:28.02 | omeow | Does anyone know of a guide to making your mod's options show up in WoW's interface tab? I did some searching, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong spot. |
| 19:28.06 | Obelixprime | question about the sounds that were in libsharedmedia... in the pre2.4 parrot i could set a variety of different sounds that could be played now post 2.4 i can't find any of these sounds in a number of different addons |
| 19:28.30 | charon | nevcairiel: i guess i'll have to dig the code for that low-level stuff and understand how it works |
| 19:28.49 | charon | bugsack never showed anything, even if the bug i fixed next would have complained about calling nil or something like that |
| 19:29.07 | Arrowmaster | Obelixprime: do you have SharedMedia installed? |
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| 19:29.15 | Dashkal | omeow: I believe Ace3 has some support for that. If you want to do it yourself, there's a few blue posts on the subject in the official UI forum's 2.4 changes thread |
| 19:29.16 | nevcairiel | just add a blatant nil error or something |
| 19:29.22 | nevcairiel | to test it |
| 19:29.23 | Obelixprime | is it separate from libsharedmedia3.0 and 2.0? |
| 19:29.27 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 19:29.44 | Fisker- | uh |
| 19:29.54 | Fisker- | what happens when your waves in MH doesn't spawn but the encounter is running? |
| 19:29.54 | nevcairiel | local bug = nil; bug(); |
| 19:29.58 | Dashkal | Doing it yourself comes down to registering a panel if yours with the appropriate functions along with some callbacks for the ok button |
| 19:30.01 | nevcairiel | should definately error, just add it to test |
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| 19:31.05 | RogueShadow | wow. it's wowace |
| 19:31.29 | Obelixprime | yeah, but having gone through the addons directory, there appears to be only textures and no sounds =/ |
| 19:32.02 | nevcairiel | yeah SharedMedia only adds fonts and textures |
| 19:32.31 | Arrowmaster | what sounds are you looking for? |
| 19:32.32 | Obelixprime | i swear there were a number of sounds that i could choose from through out all my addons |
| 19:32.39 | Obelixprime | like drums, and sparks |
| 19:32.51 | nevcairiel | maybe some other addon added them to that list |
| 19:33.00 | Dashkal | I still see that sound list. Chatter and Omen can see it |
| 19:33.34 | CIA-39 | 03sungam * r70237 10MHLootSwitcher/ (MHLootSwitcher.lua MHLootSwitcher.toc): MHLootSwitcher: -- Committing last version I have from before 2.4, not tested with 2.4 but should work |
| 19:33.53 | Obelixprime | where do you set the sound in omen, i can't seem to find the option |
| 19:34.09 | durcyn | ~seen Antiarc |
| 19:34.16 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (5h 1m 32s) #wowace (5h 1m 32s) #curseforge (5h 1m 32s), last said: 'You'll just want to click the link to get auctioneer/compare stuff'. |
| 19:34.41 | Obelixprime | ahh |
| 19:34.41 | Obelixprime | nvm |
| 19:34.43 | Obelixprime | found it |
| 19:35.21 | Obelixprime | yes, i want those sounds available to parrot, they used to be available pre 2.4, but now they're gone... is it just as simple as copying those audio files to the parrot directory? |
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| 19:35.46 | Dashkal | I'm pretty sure both of those mods find the sounds in the same place, but I couldn't tell you how |
| 19:35.53 | Obelixprime | hmmm |
| 19:35.57 | nevcairiel | parrot probably uses another version of the shared media library thats not compatible with Omen or chatter |
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| 19:36.11 | Dashkal | Chatter's highlight module uses them, and should be easier to track down than omen's use of them |
| 19:36.36 | Arrowmaster | no you cant just copy files |
| 19:38.05 | Obelixprime | hmm |
| 19:40.21 | Dashkal | Obelixprime: local Media = LibStub("LibSharedMedia-3.0") |
| 19:40.24 | Dashkal | that came from chatter |
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| 19:40.41 | Dashkal | a few lines down it registers a few sounds of its own |
| 19:41.24 | Obelixprime | thanks for the help |
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| 19:41.40 | Dashkal | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Chatter/Modules/Highlight.lua?r=69750 |
| 19:41.45 | Dashkal | if you want to investigate further |
| 19:41.53 | Snago | Anyone could give me the link to the AddonLoader repo? |
| 19:42.30 | Arrowmaster | its probably on googlecode |
| 19:42.34 | Stanzilla | http://wow-addonloader.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/AddonLoader |
| 19:42.43 | Snago | Stanzilla: thanks |
| 19:44.01 | Obelixprime | sweet |
| 19:44.03 | Obelixprime | that fixed it |
| 19:44.09 | Obelixprime | thanks dash |
| 19:44.17 | Obelixprime | i changed everything from sharedmedia2.0 to 3.0 |
| 19:44.17 | Arrowmaster | what did you do? |
| 19:44.19 | Obelixprime | and now i see the list |
| 19:44.22 | Arrowmaster | oh god no |
| 19:44.28 | Arrowmaster | youll break everything |
| 19:44.33 | Obelixprime | i'm not going to commit it |
| 19:44.41 | Arrowmaster | youll still break everything locally |
| 19:44.53 | Obelixprime | ehhhh, why'd you say that? |
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| 19:45.02 | Arrowmaster | because the api's are not compatible |
| 19:45.22 | Obelixprime | i see... |
| 19:45.32 | Obelixprime | alternatives then? |
| 19:45.41 | Fisker- | haha wtf |
| 19:45.44 | Fisker- | the wave just reset |
| 19:45.46 | Fisker- | by itself |
| 19:45.48 | Arrowmaster | just deal with it |
| 19:45.51 | Fisker- | and now we have to start over |
| 19:45.59 | Dashkal | You're probably going to have to update all the calls to Media: to use the new API if you _really_ want this to work, Obelixprime. |
| 19:46.39 | charon | nevcairiel: i stand corrected, it does error |
| 19:46.49 | charon | doesn't explain why it didn't inside threat however :( |
| 19:47.27 | Obelixprime | is there some wiki post or something documenting the changes to the api? |
| 19:47.44 | Arrowmaster | theres one for the new api |
| 19:47.47 | charon | oh |
| 19:47.50 | charon | /facepalm |
| 19:48.00 | charon | ignore that. |
| 19:49.50 | Dashkal | yay for brainfart moments :p |
| 19:49.50 | Obelixprime | hmm, the api of the 2.0 sharedmedia local in the parrot files appear to have the same api of the 3.0 |
| 19:49.55 | Arrowmaster | RegisterCallback is differetn |
| 19:51.13 | Obelixprime | parrot appears to only use fetch, list, and hashtable |
| 19:51.17 | Dashkal | Obelixprime: The strategy that works for me when updating an API (ymmv of course) is to fire it up, look for errors, then update every occurance of the call that triggered it. I'd _very_ strongly suggest a WTF backup before you try this method. |
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| 19:54.31 | d3m0n | Hi can anybody help me? Im looking for an addon which shows me the remaining time of me polymorph spell even if i dont target the polymorphed guy. it shall also consider the dimishing returns on pvp targets. (sorry for my bad english) |
| 19:55.09 | Dashkal | d3m0n: I use chronometer for the purpose. I do not know if it handles diminishing returns, though (I don't pvp enough to notice) |
| 19:55.16 | stew_a | if you use a focus polymorph macro quartz will show you the time left on it, or cryolysis will do it |
| 19:55.17 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt |
| 19:56.19 | Dashkal | cyclone has such a short duration it feels to me more like a very potent interrupt so I don't tend to notice it's time (might explain why I suck in PvP ^.^) |
| 19:56.58 | odt | a druid that doesnt pvp, what a waste |
| 19:57.02 | Dashkal | <-- feral |
| 19:57.13 | Dashkal | Not much use in pvp in this spec |
| 19:57.26 | odt | 4k ap unbuffed and 40crit is good in pvp too :D |
| 19:57.34 | Chaud | what is an amusing domain name |
| 19:57.39 | Dashkal | And I rather love it in large group pvp :p |
| 19:57.48 | Dashkal | but then I'm not being FFd down in battelgrounds |
| 19:57.52 | Chaud | teribad.net decent? |
| 19:58.37 | Dashkal | The arena gear is mostly only useful for more arena (200 resi is god in pug vs pug battlegrounds) so I'm happy |
| 20:00.07 | Dashkal | though I only wish I had 4k AP :p Still at tier 4 level |
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| 20:02.39 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: Does badboy only block, or does it report too? |
| 20:02.45 | Funkeh` | reports |
| 20:02.49 | Funkeh` | I hate only blockers |
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| 20:04.00 | AckisWork | testing |
| 20:04.02 | AckisWork | sweet |
| 20:04.14 | AckisWork | bastards here at work took away my firefox :( |
| 20:04.20 | Paene | lol |
| 20:04.27 | acemo | Zeksie: what is line 662-664 in XPerl.lua supposed to do? "if (XPerl_AggroAnchor) then XPerl_AggroAnchor:Enable() end" XPerl_AggroAnchor:Enable() gives me a nil value error. |
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| 20:05.11 | AckisWork | my old PC's hard drive went poopers... so I thought I was getting a new computer with a nice widescreen monitor... nope, just got a new box... like I need core2duo to do work... widescreen would've been nice... and they took away firefox :( |
| 20:05.16 | AckisWork | no more tabbed browsing /sigh |
| 20:06.03 | d3m0n | Try Safari |
| 20:06.51 | d3m0n | in my oppion its even better then firefox |
| 20:07.09 | d3m0n | www.apple.com/safari |
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| 20:07.22 | AckisWork | i can't install anything that requires installation... i can unzip to folders (ie: svn client works) but that's it |
| 20:07.33 | Paene | Opera |
| 20:07.44 | mikma | wlof! |
| 20:07.44 | Paene | :) |
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| 20:09.34 | Dashkal | AckisWork: Do you have access to the USB port? |
| 20:09.34 | Bruners | ghost or gorefiend, ctrl+5-4-3-3-3-3 ? |
| 20:09.36 | Dashkal | http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/Chatter/Modules/Highlight.lua?r=69750 |
| 20:09.38 | Dashkal | oops |
| 20:09.44 | Dashkal | http://portableapps.com/ |
| 20:09.55 | balstor | grumble grumble war stomp isn't a real spell grumble grumble |
| 20:09.56 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I manually swapped the mobs I ignore in TK/SSC/Hyjal last night |
| 20:10.01 | AckisWork | Dashkal: I believe so, haven't tried if they're locked down yet |
| 20:10.03 | Dashkal | even if not, firefox will run unzipped with a lil work |
| 20:10.18 | Dashkal | It doesn't require registry access so you can just zip up a FF and unzip it |
| 20:11.39 | AckisWork | i'll be damned the installer worked... wtfbbq |
| 20:11.51 | Dashkal | nice |
| 20:12.16 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70239 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist |
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| 20:15.46 | NeoTron | NivFreak: so the answer is no, you don't :P |
| 20:16.09 | NeoTron | NivFreak: can you send me your SavedVariables.lua anyway? perhaps the lua.bak but thye are likely clobbered (neotron@gmail.com) |
| 20:16.30 | Fisker- | omg we killed kaz'rogal |
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| 20:16.41 | ben___ | Poor guy |
| 20:16.44 | nevcairiel | yeah he is soooo hard Fisker- :P |
| 20:17.02 | Fisker- | yeah when Thrall keeps shouting "We must withdraw, we have failed..." |
| 20:17.03 | AckisWork | we got twins down to 50% on the second one last night :( |
| 20:17.10 | AckisWork | then we spent an hour where people blew the raid up |
| 20:17.13 | Fisker- | then he is pretty hard |
| 20:17.33 | CIA-39 | 03dodge 07rewrite * r70240 10CoolDownButtons/ (cdb_base.lua config.lua): CoolDownButtons: finished Saved/Hidden Cooldowns (well not really finished but working, not localized and currently no settings for layout of saved cooldowns) |
| 20:18.49 | Fisker- | taunts nevcairiel |
| 20:18.52 | Fisker- | bring it :( |
| 20:19.20 | nevcairiel | i r tired |
| 20:19.35 | Fisker- | same here |
| 20:19.46 | Fisker- | having trash bugging out 3 out of 5 times != fun |
| 20:20.07 | Industrial | run this for funlulz http://darkwired.org/~Industrial/src/lua/graph.lua |
| 20:20.21 | Industrial | Fisker-: ^ |
| 20:20.27 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 20:20.31 | Industrial | in a console, btw. |
| 20:20.53 | AckisWork | last time i ever told someone to run code for fun, it involved a while (1) fork() loop in my CS days |
| 20:21.03 | Industrial | yeah well look at it first :D? |
| 20:22.18 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:22.22 | Industrial | :D! |
| 20:22.36 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r70241 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0.lua: Threat-2.0: Some mild optimizations to decompression. Don't worry, it's backwards compatible. |
| 20:22.53 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: but i still worry! |
| 20:22.55 | AckisWork | oh god this web based irc client that Elkano posted converts stuff to smilies |
| 20:23.14 | Funkeh` | You have to worry when you see threat commits |
| 20:23.16 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70242 10Omen/Bar.lua: Omen: reset texture coordinates when switching from raid symbol to target |
| 20:23.19 | Funkeh` | it's just part of life |
| 20:23.20 | Industrial | AckisWork: \:D/ |
| 20:23.26 | charon | Antiarc: /panic |
| 20:23.35 | AckisWork | lol doesn't do that one Industrial |
| 20:23.41 | Industrial | AckisWork: \ :D / |
| 20:23.43 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: That one's been tested on two raids now :P |
| 20:23.52 | Funkeh` | nowai ;p |
| 20:23.53 | AckisWork | neg lol it's just a big shiteating grin |
| 20:24.04 | Industrial | hm. |
| 20:24.52 | AckisWork | btw, i made a post in the general forums about localizations on enUS client... I'm pretty sure the steps are right but it was late at night when I got the instructions so feel free to ~lart me for that |
| 20:25.08 | nevcairiel | ~lart AckisWork |
| 20:25.08 | purl | gives AckisWork an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending AckisWork to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 20:25.12 | nevcairiel | for what actually? |
| 20:25.12 | Starinnia | omg a threat-2.0 update, my guild is going to QQ so much tonight |
| 20:25.35 | AckisWork | i meant to lart me if the instructions were wrong =/ |
| 20:25.42 | charon | Antiarc: btw you might want to look at the general idea of svn diff -c 70195 http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Threat-2.0/charon |
| 20:25.45 | AckisWork | ahah! it didn't convert that smilie! :D |
| 20:25.48 | AckisWork | ugh |
| 20:25.54 | Antiarc | k, will do |
| 20:26.11 | charon | Antiarc: i have to figure out a way to test if it's actually a worthwhile optimization, but some hacking about indicates the table way is faster past about 7 choices |
| 20:26.29 | charon | don't try that commit by itself though, it's broken. current branch head works, i'm raiding with it right now |
| 20:26.38 | Antiarc | I'll take a look at it :) |
| 20:26.44 | Antiarc | Slow fish is slooooow. |
| 20:26.51 | Fisker- | what? |
| 20:26.53 | charon | heh |
| 20:26.56 | Fisker- | you calling me slow? |
| 20:27.08 | charon | unfortunately it's more svn's fault than fish's |
| 20:30.34 | Paene | ~api GetSpellCooldown |
| 20:30.34 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellCooldown |
| 20:31.13 | Kuja^ | AckisWork: /dset parseSmilies false |
| 20:33.00 | AckisWork | loves you |
| 20:33.25 | Hjalte | Awww :) |
| 20:33.30 | Kuja^ | heh |
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| 20:34.29 | AckisWork | wait I saw that smilie *insert darth vader noooo here* |
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| 20:38.32 | rhei | hey, can someone help me about eepanels2 |
| 20:38.45 | rhei | i want to "merge" two panels together, is that possible |
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| 20:39.22 | AckisWork | well when a mommy panel and daddy panel really like each other... |
| 20:39.30 | Industrial | haha |
| 20:39.37 | rhei | :D |
| 20:39.53 | rhei | i'm stuck now at making new ui |
| 20:40.17 | Industrial | doesnt use any panels or fluff at all |
| 20:40.24 | AckisWork | i've tried new UI's by my robotlike healing skillz don't let me |
| 20:40.40 | Industrial | just 6 buttons, unitframes and a minimap |
| 20:40.54 | AckisWork | you know what would be interesting? a list of addons used by the more known people of wowace |
| 20:41.02 | AckisWork | what class do you play? |
| 20:41.18 | rhei | asking me? |
| 20:41.28 | Industrial | that wouldnt be interesting at all - cause it'd cause way more fanboyism |
| 20:41.32 | Industrial | I play a hunter atm |
| 20:41.34 | Vulcanus | does anybody know of an addon that lets me see the remaining time on Scorch even if I wasn't the mage with the initial stack of scorch? |
| 20:41.43 | Ozguli` | hmm.. I'll update my ui a bit in a while, 2 buttons, grid and unit frames |
| 20:41.44 | rhei | necb ? |
| 20:41.46 | charon | are the rumors of omen underestimating warrior threat persisting, or did that go away with some other change? |
| 20:42.00 | Ozguli` | maybe buffs, and nothing else. |
| 20:42.10 | AckisWork | ahh hunter? you need 6 buttons for that? lol and true, it'd cause more fanboyism... ZOMG ACE3!!! must have! |
| 20:42.12 | Kuja^ | AckisWork: it works not via /dset, it does when you register @ mibbit -> head @ desk |
| 20:42.15 | Industrial | Ozguli`: you play pally? ;D |
| 20:42.17 | Ozguli` | I'm a holy priest. |
| 20:42.31 | Ozguli` | one button for mana potion, other for health stone macro |
| 20:42.36 | Antiarc | charon: I think it might still be underestimating somewhere |
| 20:42.45 | Industrial | AckisWork: its actually 48 spells but they swap on modifiers and you only see 6 |
| 20:42.47 | dodga | Vulcanus: Scorchio does that, but I think every mage in your raid would need it |
| 20:42.53 | Ozguli` | every single spell key bound wohoo |
| 20:42.57 | AckisWork | Ozgulli' I'm a holy priest also and I use way more than 2 buttuns |
| 20:42.59 | Vulcanus | ah, dam |
| 20:43.04 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: under-estimating now? before it was over-estimating .. heh |
| 20:43.15 | Antiarc | Yeah, I think it's underestimating now |
| 20:43.21 | Antiarc | By less than it was overestimating |
| 20:43.22 | Ozguli` | you have to bind more spells :P |
| 20:43.23 | Antiarc | But still. |
| 20:43.29 | AckisWork | Industrial: we have hunters who have the "mouse wheel macro" so all they do is mousewheel to dps lol it's win |
| 20:43.34 | charon | hmm. i've been watching it closely on bloodboil and could not see any inconsistencies |
| 20:43.41 | AckisWork | I don't have anymore keys to bind :( |
| 20:43.42 | charon | compared to my bear threat |
| 20:43.45 | nevcairiel | underestimating at least doesnt wipe you |
| 20:43.50 | Industrial | AckisWork: I use a spam macro too on my 70 hunter for steady/auto |
| 20:43.52 | nevcairiel | unless you get in enrage |
| 20:43.54 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 20:44.16 | Industrial | AckisWork: it works perfectly but with lag. I usually have 40ping tho |
| 20:44.27 | Industrial | i dont know a mousewheel macro :s |
| 20:44.32 | AckisWork | 40 ping? nice lucky |
| 20:45.02 | Industrial | ah, http://www.wowwiki.com/Useful_macros/Hunter#Auto_Shot_-.3E_Steady_Shot_.2B_Kill_Command |
| 20:45.06 | AckisWork | You just bind your macro to your mousewheel and win |
| 20:45.17 | hypetech | Vulcanus: scorchio, but all the mages have to be running it |
| 20:45.46 | Industrial | actually i dont use the mousewheel .. hmm .. nice >:D! |
| 20:45.50 | Vulcanus | I think I can badger them into installing it; I'm Mage CL after all ;D ty both :) |
| 20:46.06 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:46.16 | AckisWork | See i made playing a hunter that much easier for you! |
| 20:46.48 | Shadowed | Antiarc: I think I can figure out I toggled an option in Chatter without it spamming chat everytime when I do it through GUI :p |
| 20:47.05 | Industrial | AckisWork: used to bashing 1, this is way better :D |
| 20:47.24 | Antiarc | Shadowed: Yeah, I put that in there because there isn't an echo for AceConfigConsole |
| 20:47.27 | Antiarc | I need to push to get one in :) |
| 20:47.52 | Ozguli` | I had 23 ms ping last summer |
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| 20:48.14 | AckisWork | Industrial: lol it's a shame that the hunter class can be that way, but that macro on the mousewheel is so win |
| 20:48.31 | AckisWork | I get between 200-400 ping... yay for being Canadian |
| 20:48.38 | Industrial | doesnt warrior bash work like steadyshot in rotations (no idea if its viable dps) |
| 20:49.00 | Shadowed | Antiarc: Also an option to auto convert chat channels to something like [#] would be nice |
| 20:49.07 | Ozguli` | Industrial slam? |
| 20:49.13 | Industrial | slam* |
| 20:49.14 | Ozguli` | not enough rage |
| 20:49.23 | Industrial | oh right |
| 20:49.23 | Shadowed | all I see is being able to specifically set the # yourself but if your channel numbers change won't help you much |
| 20:49.34 | AckisWork | I'm not familiar with warrior... only played one once during a kara run, and he took it away from me when I executed/deathwish/other cool down on nightbane |
| 20:49.55 | Keias | You use slam in between Whirlwind and MS cooldowns |
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| 20:50.20 | Keias | like Auto -> MS -> Auto -> Slam -> Auto -> Whirlwind |
| 20:50.22 | Ozguli` | but cooldowns are supposed to be used |
| 20:50.43 | charon | wtb /stopmacro [gcd] |
| 20:50.46 | Keias | Its nice and efficient as long as you time it before a swing |
| 20:50.54 | Keias | cause then you get the swing in with it |
| 20:50.55 | ben___ | after |
| 20:51.01 | Ozguli` | after |
| 20:51.03 | Keias | Yeah |
| 20:51.04 | ben___ | If you time it before a swing, the swing timer resets |
| 20:51.04 | Keias | lol |
| 20:51.07 | Keias | sorry :P |
| 20:51.08 | Keias | Been a while |
| 20:53.34 | Antiarc | Industrial: No, Slam resets the swing timer when it goes off |
| 20:53.45 | Antiarc | So you just want to use it as soon after starting a swing as possible |
| 20:54.26 | Antiarc | Swing (3.6 sec) -> Slam (0.5 sec) -> Swing (3.6 sec), as opposed to Swing (3.6 sec) -> Slam (0.5 sec) -> Swing (3.1 sec). You can't weave Slam. |
| 20:55.56 | Parnic_ | hey antiarc, someone told me you have some cpu profiling stuff for addons, is that correct? |
| 20:56.05 | Antiarc | Eh? |
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| 20:56.11 | Parnic_ | they could have been misinformed :) |
| 20:56.20 | Antiarc | I haven't written anything, but I've done a lot of profiling work |
| 20:56.24 | Antiarc | I use OptionHouse usually |
| 20:56.29 | AckisWork | They may have seen his screenshot using OptionHouse? |
| 20:56.34 | Parnic_ | possibly |
| 20:56.43 | Parnic_ | alright. i've been using necb/performancefu just to get a cpu% readout |
| 20:56.49 | Parnic_ | but it seems of limited use |
| 20:58.47 | charon | Antiarc: also, bloodboil bug seems fixed |
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| 21:00.07 | charon | i'm fairly convinced warrior tank threat is fine relative to bear threat, of course it's hard to say how we're doing compared to DPS |
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| 21:00.30 | Antiarc | I had some wacky-ass tank numbers on Bloodboil last week |
| 21:00.42 | charon | hmm |
| 21:00.56 | AckisWork | I need to decide what to do with ARL... code cleanup/optimization, conversion to Ace3 and using some of the new features there, make its modules LoD, or add features... =/ |
| 21:01.08 | charon | Antiarc: way high or way low? |
| 21:01.23 | Antiarc | One warrior was way too low. |
| 21:01.25 | charon | someone said prot pally thread was off, but we don't have any of those |
| 21:01.36 | charon | an obvious explanation comes to mind :P |
| 21:01.46 | Antiarc | And though our druid/other warrior were spots 1/2, sometimes the war would be on top when the druid was tanking, etc. |
| 21:02.53 | Industrial | What do you guys use to open the panels and bags? I walk with WASD, use 123456+shift/alt/ctrl (all combos 8 bars) for spells and E for bags, R/S-R for player/social, F/S-F for spellbook/talents, G/S-G for map/minimap, V for questlog, c for assist, x for sit/sheathe wep and Z/S-Z for autorun/follow |
| 21:02.58 | charon | i've just seen an instance where the warrior was on top and tanking, got knocked back just so that i was between him and the +10% aggro limit and he still had aggro, then i overtook the +10% and tanked... |
| 21:03.22 | charon | OTOH i use that branch, for all we know my c_l_e_u might ignore half the events ;) |
| 21:03.23 | Industrial | I am considering not using any spellbuttons on screen at all, walking with TFGH or ESDF and using the keys around it for spells, also using shoft and CTRL (capslock key) |
| 21:03.29 | Industrial | but then what do I do with my panels |
| 21:03.59 | Industrial | I should ask this on the forum |
| 21:04.40 | AckisWork | I use S to backpeddle |
| 21:04.56 | Industrial | I dont walk backwards ever really >_> |
| 21:05.09 | AckisWork | it's quicker than using a or d to turn around lol |
| 21:05.29 | Industrial | but you walk way slower |
| 21:05.42 | Industrial | er, hold the right mouse button and turn. |
| 21:05.53 | AckisWork | i was making a bad joke... although I do use s for small corrections in the raid |
| 21:05.56 | Industrial | did I just fall for that or do you.. |
| 21:05.57 | Industrial | sigh |
| 21:06.07 | AckisWork | lol |
| 21:06.08 | charon | I use S to backpeddle. |
| 21:06.23 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12916 |
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| 21:07.34 | AckisWork | this weekend I have to update all my keybindings to use macros... add stopcasting in and all that fancy macro stuffz |
| 21:08.21 | _rane | .. why? |
| 21:08.45 | CIA-39 | 03funkydude * r70243 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist |
| 21:09.01 | ben___ | Blizzard needs to give me more than 18 macros per character :| |
| 21:09.12 | ben___ | Or I need to start using a more configurable action button addon |
| 21:09.50 | AckisWork | Try having to do heal assigments with macros :P lol |
| 21:09.59 | AckisWork | so glad I found HealOrganizer |
| 21:10.06 | AckisWork | I need to update it however |
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| 21:11.47 | CIA-39 | 03charon * r70244 10Omen/Bar.lua: Omen: AOE module: reset texture coordinates when switching from raid to target symbol |
| 21:12.12 | Paene | ugh |
| 21:12.28 | Paene | kinda lame that spell_aura_applied isn't called on buff refreshes |
| 21:12.45 | NeoTron | so first time I've noticed it but we have debuff issues on Brutallus |
| 21:12.49 | NeoTron | we actually run out of slots |
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| 21:13.23 | AckisWork | NeoTron, same problem here |
| 21:13.42 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r70245 10Cryolysis2/ (6 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:13.42 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:13.42 | CIA-39 | - Added polymorph break sounds (no early warning sounds yet) |
| 21:13.42 | CIA-39 | - Updated French locale |
| 21:13.44 | AckisWork | I'm not allowed to use hex of weakness anymore, and it seems wisdom always gets knocked off |
| 21:15.18 | NeoTron | yeah we have wisdom and Demoshout be knocked off |
| 21:15.22 | NeoTron | and dots in general |
| 21:15.44 | ArrowmasterClass | bliz doesnt seem to have any debuff priority on tbc debuffs |
| 21:16.06 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 21:16.26 | nevcairiel | how do you manage to fill 40 debuffs o.O |
| 21:16.26 | NeoTron | it's annoying too with debuffs such as taunt and mortal strike :P |
| 21:17.13 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/ofzkciv32mfgs?s=11125-11417&a=52#buffs |
| 21:17.17 | NeoTron | 40 different kind of debuffs |
| 21:17.17 | CIA-39 | 03Shot * r70246 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua: |
| 21:17.17 | CIA-39 | DoIKnowYou: |
| 21:17.17 | CIA-39 | - Fix nil name check |
| 21:17.24 | NeoTron | some applied more than once such as ignite |
| 21:18.19 | nevcairiel | i r too lazy to read it all |
| 21:18.22 | nevcairiel | eh |
| 21:18.24 | nevcairiel | to count |
| 21:18.26 | nevcairiel | i mean |
| 21:18.43 | NeoTron | I counted |
| 21:18.49 | NeoTron | there are exactly 40 different ones |
| 21:19.08 | NeoTron | and each mage (2 of them) have their own fireball/ignite |
| 21:19.12 | NeoTron | for example |
| 21:19.20 | NeoTron | each rogue their own deadly poison |
| 21:19.26 | Antiarc | And rupture |
| 21:19.51 | Paene | that's impressive |
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| 21:19.55 | NeoTron | indeed |
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| 21:20.12 | NeoTron | we need to get ppl that are not dps stop using things like SW:P and stuff |
| 21:20.15 | Paene | i remember dealing with the old debuff cap |
| 21:20.16 | NeoTron | even if we didn't have a lot of those issues |
| 21:20.21 | AckisWork | SPs have 4 dots each as well, locks have imp SB, plus the poor bastard who has to go affliction does something fance |
| 21:20.42 | NeoTron | yep |
| 21:20.52 | nevcairiel | we never had more then one SP on brut |
| 21:21.00 | nevcairiel | their dps is just too low =P |
| 21:21.01 | NeoTron | they are amazingly powerful theer |
| 21:21.04 | Stanzilla | ! |
| 21:21.05 | AckisWork | we bring 2 or 3 |
| 21:21.13 | Stanzilla | I had 1700 once :P |
| 21:21.16 | ramoz | so, what other addons use Rock than PitBull, carto, chincilla, parrot and fubar? |
| 21:21.16 | NeoTron | they increase the DPS of other classes, and provide healing, easily making up for lower dps |
| 21:21.27 | NeoTron | in fact I'd bring a third one if I could |
| 21:21.54 | nevcairiel | raid healing was never a issue for us |
| 21:22.03 | AckisWork | I think our last kill had 3 SP's, 2 enhance shaman, 1 ret pally, deeps warrior for offspecs |
| 21:22.22 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/ofzkciv32mfgs?m&s=15608-15831 Aminai is me - I had 2 BM hunters, 3 drums, Wikkodemus had jsut 1xShadow priest |
| 21:22.25 | Psycho | ramoz: Pretty much every addon I use does =P |
| 21:22.32 | Psycho | About 30 or so |
| 21:22.35 | Paene | how would I go about detecting if a debuff has been refreshed? Watch the SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED event? |
| 21:22.39 | NeoTron | so 1 SP is worth ~= the same as 2 BM hunters and 3 drum rotation |
| 21:22.47 | ramoz | Psycho: no wai? |
| 21:23.36 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: our main, in fact pretty much only, issue is MT healing |
| 21:23.39 | Antiarc | What debuffs do a warlock contribute? |
| 21:23.44 | Antiarc | (I'm making a spreadsheet) |
| 21:23.48 | Psycho | Well, off the top of my head, Skinner, Autobar, ZOMGBuffs... |
| 21:23.51 | NeoTron | dest lock has Imp SB (shared between locks) |
| 21:23.53 | Psycho | I mean, I don't have the list here. |
| 21:24.04 | NeoTron | Dest lock mgiht use immolate - I tried it and it seemed to increase my DPS |
| 21:24.13 | NeoTron | but then I notice the buff situation |
| 21:24.17 | Psycho | Antiarc: Including DoTs? |
| 21:24.20 | NeoTron | plus each lock has 1 curse |
| 21:24.21 | Antiarc | yes |
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| 21:24.53 | NeoTron | affliction locks have, typically, 1xcurse, siphon life, corruption, unstable affliction, and possibyl shadow embrace and if tey suck, immolate |
| 21:25.21 | NeoTron | on brutallus a lock si guarateed to have shadow embrace if they are affliction or there'd be no reason to bring them really |
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| 21:25.38 | Psycho | You'll have an ISB debuff up if there are warlocks in the raid at all. |
| 21:25.44 | Psycho | One curse for each warlock in the raid typically |
| 21:25.44 | NeoTron | right I said that |
| 21:25.46 | james\ | NeoTron, you bring a lock to do over 2k dps |
| 21:25.55 | NeoTron | james\: or to keep the tank from dying |
| 21:25.58 | Psycho | sorry NeoTron, I'm doing other crap and missing a lot. |
| 21:26.02 | Aens|Superiority | we typically bring 4 locks to brut |
| 21:26.08 | Aens|Superiority | 1 aff, 3 shadow destro |
| 21:26.24 | Psycho | Aens|Superiority: "shadow destro"? There's another kind of destro? =P |
| 21:26.30 | Aens|Superiority | kinda funny, we were doing a dry run last night for a warmup, ended up killing him with most of the raid not potted or using pots. |
| 21:26.31 | james\ | mmm our tanks don't die without shadow embrace, affliction warlocks are a disgrace, low dps and 5-6 debuff slots each |
| 21:26.33 | hypetech | fire? |
| 21:26.36 | james\ | is there anyway of making bigwigs play the benny hill theme tune when I get a conflag at twins btw? |
| 21:26.36 | Aens|Superiority | Psycho: immolate/incinerate |
| 21:26.38 | NeoTron | one 2 mintue attempt I did 2655 deeps |
| 21:26.48 | Psycho | Aens|Superiority: I know, I was making a joke because fire destruction is terriblebad. |
| 21:27.04 | hypetech | not as bad as it used to be |
| 21:27.10 | james\ | fire destruction is fine, just less raid util w/o imp SB |
| 21:27.13 | NeoTron | Psycho: except it's not - http://wowwebstats.com/zzpucup5jbpr3?s=6420-6772&c=wrl |
| 21:27.20 | Funkeh` | james\, download SharedMedia and add the song in |
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| 21:27.32 | Zeksie | acemo: turns on the movable anchor for the aggro warning. will onyl exist if raid helper module is loaded |
| 21:27.35 | james\ | seem to have sharedmedia |
| 21:27.36 | hypetech | NeoTron: wtf conflag |
| 21:27.41 | Psycho | Great, a single WWS with someone doing good fire damage. That certainly makes all the theorycraft wrong. |
| 21:27.56 | AckisWork | rofl james |
| 21:27.57 | NeoTron | yes conflag bad |
| 21:28.02 | NeoTron | Psycho: I've seen more examples |
| 21:28.08 | james\ | Psycho, our fire destro locks did 2.2k+ @ Brutallus |
| 21:28.17 | NeoTron | and from waht I can see with the theorycrafting, fire is about 100 dps higher for self dps than shadow |
| 21:28.20 | Funkeh` | james\, then just add it into sharedmedia, and after that go into bigwigs > plugins > sounds and change 'Long' to your tune |
| 21:28.32 | Psycho | I'm thrilled with them, james. |
| 21:28.44 | NeoTron | the other thing to consider with fire is Flame Caap |
| 21:28.47 | Psycho | But fire still scales worse, has a DoT dependency, and doesn't add ISB. |
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| 21:29.03 | CIA-39 | 03trasher * r70247 10Proximo/locals/localization-frFR.lua: |
| 21:29.03 | CIA-39 | Proximo: |
| 21:29.03 | CIA-39 | - frFR update |
| 21:29.04 | Antiarc | Is there any way to register a binding outside of a Bindings.xml file? |
| 21:29.09 | CIA-39 | 03profalbert * r70248 10Parrot/ (7 files in 3 dirs): |
| 21:29.09 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 21:29.09 | CIA-39 | + fixed bug with outgoing "Pet Skill DoTs" |
| 21:29.09 | CIA-39 | + updated to LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 21:29.24 | hypetech | Psycho: fire is better personal dps, just doesn't do as much for the raid |
| 21:29.38 | hypetech | Psycho: and with the change to the fire tree I don't even think the scaling is worse now |
| 21:29.40 | NeoTron | immolate with fire spec is like over 3000 dpsc |
| 21:30.00 | NeoTron | it really isn't universally BAD anymore |
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| 21:30.04 | NeoTron | like it used to be |
| 21:30.36 | AckisWork | i've heard some theory crafting stating that with the haste gear/sunwell gear that fire > shadow |
| 21:31.13 | NeoTron | yeah there is that too |
| 21:31.16 | Psycho | hypetech: I don't know why you'd care about anything but raid-wide DPS |
| 21:31.35 | NeoTron | Psycho: if all locks are fire |
| 21:31.40 | hypetech | Psycho: well if the personal dps increase is enough to overcome the ISB RDPS increase |
| 21:31.42 | hypetech | right |
| 21:31.42 | NeoTron | Psycho: raid wide DPS is higher with fire, yes? |
| 21:31.54 | Psycho | NeoTron: I know it's not universally bad. I should've known that dropping "terriblebad" into this conversation would get everyone all fired up |
| 21:31.58 | NeoTron | because then you have just 1-2 shadow priests doign 1300-1500 dps or so |
| 21:32.03 | hypetech | Psycho: no pun intended? :p |
| 21:32.20 | NeoTron | ISB seems to add about 10% damage |
| 21:32.30 | NeoTron | in a raid with 3 or so dest locks |
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| 21:32.41 | NeoTron | (shadowseer data, pre 2.4) |
| 21:32.47 | NeoTron | and pre-stacking-lots-of-haste :P |
| 21:32.53 | Gagorian | What's the best way to check if you have something targeted? |
| 21:33.01 | Gagorian | if UnitName("target") ? |
| 21:33.03 | hypetech | Gagorian: try to buff it? |
| 21:33.14 | Antiarc | UnitExists("target") |
| 21:33.39 | Gagorian | Antiarc: What's the difference between that and name functionality wise? |
| 21:34.05 | Antiarc | UnitExists returns a bool, and it's more self-documenting |
| 21:34.14 | hypetech | wouldn't UnitName return a string while exists returns a bool? |
| 21:34.15 | hypetech | ya |
| 21:34.28 | Gagorian | mmkay |
| 21:34.32 | Gagorian | Thanks |
| 21:34.35 | Antiarc | Well, UnitName returns nil if you have no target |
| 21:34.42 | Antiarc | So you can still use if UnitName("target") then ... |
| 21:34.49 | Antiarc | But UnitExists is more clear in communicating the intent ofthe code |
| 21:34.55 | NeoTron | Psycho: don't get me wrong, I have been a big fan of "not fire" too but I'm looking at it again |
| 21:35.21 | Funkeh` | can sense Arrowmaster's blood start to boil. |
| 21:35.32 | ArrowmasterClass | ? |
| 21:35.42 | Funkeh` | ArrowmasterClass, parrot commit |
| 21:35.44 | Psycho | Oh, believe me I know. |
| 21:35.50 | AckisWork | You mean Arrowmaster is a boss in BT? |
| 21:35.51 | Psycho | Incinerate has the best spell graphic in the game. |
| 21:35.59 | NeoTron | well true |
| 21:36.06 | Psycho | So it's been constantly frustrating that I'm seeing the same goobery bolts I've been casting since level 1 |
| 21:36.08 | NeoTron | but I'm more concerned about performance :P |
| 21:36.10 | ArrowmasterClass | Funkeh`: im trying to refresh the changelog on fish but its not scaned the repo yet =( |
| 21:36.35 | NeoTron | the main issue is that comparing the two... involves finding a new cloak and reenchanting my weapon |
| 21:36.43 | NeoTron | an expensive endevour |
| 21:36.55 | AckisWork | Gold isn't hard to get |
| 21:37.08 | Chompers | this priestess delrissa fight is difficult :/ |
| 21:37.11 | NeoTron | it's interesting though. the haste change makes incincerate mana cost no longer a benefit |
| 21:37.15 | hypetech | Chompers: haha. |
| 21:37.18 | NeoTron | mana use is pretty much identical between shadow and fire |
| 21:37.20 | Chompers | how on earth are you meant to do it with only 3 cc :s |
| 21:37.26 | NeoTron | AckisWork: I have 20kg. I know ;-) |
| 21:37.27 | charon | "only 3"?! |
| 21:37.36 | Psycho | Fortunately, Neotron, plenty of people are willing to theorycraft it for you =P |
| 21:37.47 | Funkeh` | ArrowmasterClass, http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/4c655f767bdcc088# |
| 21:37.47 | AckisWork | NeoTron: Only? ;) |
| 21:37.51 | NeoTron | Psycho: my spreadsheet says ~+100 dps |
| 21:37.57 | NeoTron | and that doesn't include flamecap |
| 21:37.58 | CIA-39 | 03xan * r70249 10FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu/Core.lua: |
| 21:37.58 | CIA-39 | FuBar_SimpleDurabilityFu |
| 21:37.58 | CIA-39 | - divided total in tot-frendly and tot-exalted |
| 21:37.58 | CIA-39 | - cleanup code |
| 21:37.58 | ArrowmasterClass | Funkeh`: oh yeah |
| 21:38.02 | Chompers | we're swapping the tank for a warlock |
| 21:38.04 | Chompers | so 4cc now |
| 21:38.13 | hypetech | rofl |
| 21:38.13 | [dRaCo] | wtf? |
| 21:38.17 | [dRaCo] | we usually use 1 cc o0 |
| 21:38.21 | hypetech | hope the tank doesn't need the trinket |
| 21:38.32 | Chompers | can't find the combo that wins |
| 21:38.32 | hypetech | what's your comp vs. boss comp? |
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| 21:38.49 | hypetech | play it like a 5v5 |
| 21:38.51 | NeoTron | so with flame cap included, the gani from firedps in the spreadsheet is ~150 dps |
| 21:38.53 | [dRaCo] | basically, the key is to control the warrior |
| 21:39.02 | hypetech | if there is a warrior |
| 21:39.08 | NeoTron | one firelock gain ~= the isb gain of one shadow priest if that is valid |
| 21:39.11 | Chompers | i fail at pvp, that's why i pve |
| 21:39.12 | [dRaCo] | never had a setup without him |
| 21:39.27 | NeoTron | but theorycrafting is still theory |
| 21:39.45 | [dRaCo] | cc the warrior, if the rogue is there, cc him too, if you are able to, burst down the priest |
| 21:40.01 | CIA-39 | 03gagorian * r70250 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua Data/Shaman.lua): |
| 21:40.01 | CIA-39 | DrDamage: |
| 21:40.01 | CIA-39 | - Use manually set target level for hit calculation when nothing is targeted when hit calculation by target level is on |
| 21:40.11 | hypetech | if you get the shaman you'll want to interrupt his heals or you'll never get the priest down |
| 21:40.17 | charon | and purge the renew! |
| 21:40.25 | charon | renew is almost worse than the flash heals |
| 21:40.29 | NeoTron | I found too when I tested flock on gorefiend that timing with immolate was pretty easy. add a second and third firelock and timing isn't nearly as much of an issue |
| 21:40.35 | [dRaCo] | a rogue with wound poison is great there |
| 21:40.50 | ArrowmasterClass | Prof_Alber1: you didnt change the embeds.xml |
| 21:40.50 | [dRaCo] | mine usually uses wound + mindbnumbing |
| 21:40.56 | Prof_Alber1 | woops |
| 21:41.02 | Prof_Alber1 | thx |
| 21:41.03 | [dRaCo] | makes the heals easy to counter |
| 21:41.12 | ArrowmasterClass | Prof_Alber1: or the toc |
| 21:41.18 | ArrowmasterClass | the optdeps and x-embeds |
| 21:41.48 | Chompers | okay, giving that a go |
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| 21:41.51 | Chompers | try #5 |
| 21:42.57 | ArrowmasterClass | and ckk sucks for never using his own damn flawed callbacks for LSM-2.0 in Parrot |
| 21:43.00 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r70251 10Cryolysis2/buttons/ (8 files): |
| 21:43.00 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 21:43.00 | CIA-39 | - Holding alt and left or right clicking a button will now perform that button's middle click function. |
| 21:43.03 | CIA-39 | 03profalbert * r70252 10Parrot/ (Parrot.toc embeds.xml): |
| 21:43.03 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 21:43.03 | CIA-39 | + toc and embeds updated for libsharedmedia-3.0 (oops) |
| 21:43.05 | Chompers | totems saw through my stealth, dead |
| 21:43.06 | Chompers | god damn |
| 21:43.11 | ckknight | ArrowmasterClass: ah ... my bad |
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| 21:43.47 | ckknight | ArrowmasterClass.message "ah ... my bad" |
| 21:43.50 | ckknight | lulz |
| 21:43.57 | ckknight | why not use a |? |
| 21:43.59 | ArrowmasterClass | ckknight: you fail even worse |
| 21:44.04 | ckknight | |Class instead of Class |
| 21:44.15 | ArrowmasterClass | you are doing Fetch inside of ShowMessage |
| 21:44.21 | ArrowmasterClass | ~lart ckknight |
| 21:44.21 | purl | whacks ckknight upside the head |
| 21:44.34 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 21:44.36 | ArrowmasterClass | and im at freenodes max nick lenght right now |
| 21:44.42 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 21:45.11 | ArrowmasterClass | and your autodoc mentions SharedMediaLib-1.0 |
| 21:45.14 | Psycho | NeoTron: I don't know anymore, I hadn't really done any reading about it since 2.4, but lots of people are reporting it to be better for personal DPS, enough so that it's better to drop shadow in favor of fire talents. The thought of respeccing makes me groan though. |
| 21:45.19 | Psycho | Especially if I have to spec out of ISB |
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| 21:45.25 | Psycho | Which I basically would. |
| 21:45.32 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70253 10Omen/Modules/AOE/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Omen: Make tank mode threat roof configurable |
| 21:45.50 | charon | wonders if "roof" works in english for this concept |
| 21:46.06 | hypetech | ceiling |
| 21:46.08 | hypetech | :p |
| 21:46.32 | mort | !points 700 |
| 21:46.33 | Xinhuan | 700 arena points require 1761(5s), 1823(3s) and 1905(2s) team rating. |
| 21:46.34 | charon | ok :) |
| 21:46.57 | charon | which reminds me |
| 21:46.59 | charon | !points 121 |
| 21:46.59 | Xinhuan | 121 arena points require 487(5s), 562(3s) and 661(2s) team rating. |
| 21:47.07 | charon | lol |
| 21:47.24 | Psycho | I guess another consideration is that I always have a shadow priest but only very rarely have a fire mage. |
| 21:47.44 | NeoTron | Psycho: oh indeed - ISB is useless, cataclysm is better |
| 21:47.46 | hypetech | oh well without a fire mage, fire locks aren't much good |
| 21:47.51 | NeoTron | yes |
| 21:47.57 | NeoTron | you absolutely need fire mages |
| 21:48.03 | Psycho | Yeah, which has always been a big part of my problem. |
| 21:48.08 | Psycho | There's a huge dependency there. |
| 21:48.13 | NeoTron | what level of raiding are you at? |
| 21:48.16 | Psycho | And we've almost never had a consistent raiding mage. |
| 21:48.20 | Psycho | Working on Illidan this week. |
| 21:49.05 | Chompers | fucking instance, if i wanted to do pvp i'd go to a battleground |
| 21:49.13 | Chompers | why is the best melee trinket here WHY |
| 21:49.18 | NeoTron | it sems until 4xt6 we had arcane mages |
| 21:49.21 | ArrowmasterClass | we used to have all arcane mages except for one fire mage who went emo because we wouldnt put CoE up for him and server transfered, now all our mages are fire |
| 21:50.06 | vithos | Chompers: at least your class gets a trinket from there |
| 21:50.40 | Psycho | I'm used to raiding without a mage except somehow one always logs on for council. |
| 21:50.43 | Psycho | Don't ask me how they know. |
| 21:50.45 | Psycho | They always do. |
| 21:51.39 | Primer | !points 425 |
| 21:51.40 | Xinhuan | 425 arena points require 1569(5s), 1614(3s) and 1668(2s) team rating. |
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| 21:52.33 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 21:52.46 | Chompers | HORAY |
| 21:53.05 | kadrahil | ugh |
| 21:54.20 | NeoTron | hrm this spreadsheet seems weird with incincerate. |
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| 21:57.35 | charon | anyone got a prot pally? does healing threat (procs?) affect your tps in any way? |
| 21:57.57 | hypetech | I have a prot pally but I don't know the answer to that |
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| 21:58.24 | NeoTron | charon: you mean the mana gain from being healed ? |
| 21:58.36 | NeoTron | if so it does affect threat |
| 21:58.57 | charon | no, actual healing. i'm digging code right now and suspect it vastly underestimates paladin healing threat... factor of 2 seems likely |
| 21:59.41 | Antiarc | You know paladin heals are half threat compared to other heals, yes? |
| 21:59.56 | charon | oh. hmm. |
| 22:00.03 | Antiarc | Priest heal for 4000 = 2000 threat, paladin heal for 4000 = 1000 threat |
| 22:00.05 | Primer | !points 415 |
| 22:00.06 | Xinhuan | 415 arena points require 1561(5s), 1605(3s) and 1659(2s) team rating. |
| 22:01.01 | charon | Antiarc: ok, thanks for pointing that out. i thought the factor 0.5 was a remainder from when i patched it to apply spell school to heals so that druids would work |
| 22:01.07 | balstor | btw SPELL_SENT != SPELL_CAST_START (war stomp is my pain today) |
| 22:01.25 | charon | Antiarc: might still apply righteous fury to heals twice, though |
| 22:01.46 | charon | or to everything, in fact. |
| 22:01.50 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 22:02.15 | charon | gah now i'm confused. i'll get back to you when i get this sorted |
| 22:02.55 | Dranor | righteous without talents is a 60% increase |
| 22:03.10 | CIA-39 | 03anadale * r70254 10UnderHood/Modules/Bars/Provider_Threat.lua: |
| 22:03.10 | CIA-39 | UnderHood: |
| 22:03.10 | CIA-39 | - Bugfixes in Threat provider. |
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| 22:06.03 | CIA-39 | 03profalbert * r70255 10Parrot/ (Parrot.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 22:06.03 | CIA-39 | Parrot: |
| 22:06.03 | CIA-39 | + added CallbackHandler-1.0 to embeds so LibSharedMedia-3.0 loads properly |
| 22:07.20 | CIA-39 | 03charon 07charon * r70256 10Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Paladin.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): Threat-2.0: Apply Righteous Fury to Paladin heals at most once |
| 22:07.23 | charon | Antiarc: ^ that... rationale: Paladin.lua already sets the righteous fury handler as spell handler for school holy, and since i made that druid change, schools also count for healing |
| 22:07.58 | Antiarc | Lemme take a look |
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| 22:10.34 | durcyn | Antiarc: er, did NewBar get renamed to NewTimerBar and not added to the mixin table? |
| 22:10.39 | Antiarc | durcyn: Yup! |
| 22:10.42 | Antiarc | I'll fix that :P |
| 22:11.12 | Antiarc | NewBar is now NewCounterBar |
| 22:11.16 | Antiarc | NewTimer is now NewTimerBar |
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| 22:11.38 | Funkeh` | longer names ftl |
| 22:11.43 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc 07LibBars-1.0 * r70257 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Fix mixin table |
| 22:11.48 | Antiarc | Since they're mixins they're sorta needed |
| 22:16.09 | CIA-39 | 03paene * r70258 10Cryolysis2/core/events.lua: |
| 22:16.09 | CIA-39 | Cryolysis2: |
| 22:16.09 | CIA-39 | - Removed debugging message |
| 22:19.04 | CIA-39 | 037destiny * r70259 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: koKR Update |
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| 22:23.35 | Hjalte | Antiarc: Is LibBars going to be sort of like the new Candybars? |
| 22:23.39 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 22:26.20 | Hjalte | Antiarc: You usually make good stuff, so I'm looking forward to see what may come out of this :) |
| 22:27.05 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r70260 10Omniscience/ (Omniscience.toc core.lua data.lua): |
| 22:27.05 | CIA-39 | Omniscience: use new LibBars mixin functions, clean up the event parser, make |
| 22:27.05 | CIA-39 | interrupts/dispels work, and ditch spell name lookups, data is keyed by ID only |
| 22:27.05 | CIA-39 | now, and is, thusly, incomplete. Will still eat your offspring, use at your own |
| 22:27.05 | CIA-39 | discretion. |
| 22:27.11 | durcyn | lib bars is swell. i've got 75% of an NECB rewrite done in an afternoon ^ |
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| 22:29.30 | Hjalte | durcyn: oh, what will it feature when complete? |
| 22:30.14 | durcyn | right now it's a halfased ace3 antagonist rewrite, i'm adding in group cooldowns and cc atm |
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| 22:31.13 | Gnarfoz | DR timers? :> |
| 22:31.16 | durcyn | not yet |
| 22:31.21 | Gnarfoz | planned? :> |
| 22:31.36 | durcyn | i'd like to, but it's tricky for non-player sources |
| 22:31.45 | Gnarfoz | I only used NECB for a short time, way back (it wasn't even called NECB then) but DR timers for my stuns were awesome, then :> |
| 22:31.48 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know |
| 22:32.04 | durcyn | the edge case that fucks it all up is the same rebuff being reapplied, which generates no log message |
| 22:32.22 | durcyn | debuff, rather |
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| 22:36.33 | Chompers | Antiarc: what's LibBars for? |
| 22:36.44 | Antiarc | CandyBars replacement |
| 22:36.47 | Chompers | i know what it does, kinda. but why did you make it? |
| 22:36.48 | Chompers | oooh |
| 22:37.01 | Chompers | good luck |
| 22:37.04 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: yeah, I still don't get why they've never added that, not even with the combat log rewrite :\ |
| 22:37.09 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_041608_044320.jpg |
| 22:37.17 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: it's a pain in the ass is what it is |
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| 22:38.02 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: wth is all that? testaddon? :> |
| 22:38.03 | charon | durcyn: you could try to track the relationship between spell_cast_success and spell_aura_applied automatically, then conclude that a refresh must have happened at the next success? |
| 22:38.10 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: Yes |
| 22:38.22 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: checking that out, *now* the lower part looks hot :D |
| 22:38.36 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: MaxStats, it's in trunk :) |
| 22:38.49 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: oh, woot. does trunk use libbars, though? |
| 22:38.58 | Antiarc | It uses it from branch, I don't think that WAU packages it |
| 22:39.04 | Antiarc | so you'll have to get libbars manually |
| 22:39.13 | Gnarfoz | right on |
| 22:39.38 | charon | Antiarc: please merge r70256 if you think it's correct. i've made too many mistakes today to dare another trunk commit |
| 22:39.45 | durcyn | charon: no target information is sent on SPELL_CAST events for other units |
| 22:39.49 | Gnarfoz | damn my ears are ringing. fucking metal concerts. <3 |
| 22:40.10 | durcyn | charon: so we know what's cast, and we know what auras happen, but there's no way to correlate who did what to whom |
| 22:40.18 | Antiarc | I'm working on that sort of thing, charon. |
| 22:40.40 | durcyn | unless you try to track target data for valid tokens, which is also irksome |
| 22:40.45 | Mechiza1 | Heh, I'm guessing the discussion is about Cryolysis2 spamming debug messages? |
| 22:40.47 | charon | :) |
| 22:41.16 | charon | night all, i should get some sleep |
| 22:41.38 | Mechiza1 | If not (or if so), does anybody know a way to turn them off? |
| 22:41.51 | Antiarc | Oh geez, you have to be kidding me |
| 22:42.05 | Antiarc | The Holy Light spell ID that lands is completely different from the one in the spellbook. |
| 22:42.22 | Paene | lol |
| 22:42.30 | Paene | different ranks? |
| 22:43.05 | Paene | Mechiza1: I just fixed it awhile ago |
| 22:43.28 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: maybe a different one for HL + Light's Grace? |
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| 22:43.45 | Gnarfoz | or... wth do I know, this seems to be the case for lots of abilities |
| 22:44.15 | Mechiza1 | Cool. I usually use the updater. Will I need to get the latest manually? |
| 22:44.34 | Paene | nah, once the zip script runs you'll be able to grab it from the updater |
| 22:44.35 | Antiarc | Oh, this blows balls. |
| 22:44.38 | Antiarc | Flash of Light is different too. |
| 22:44.50 | Paene | should be any minute now |
| 22:45.09 | Paene | lol wow GG Blizzard |
| 22:45.13 | Mechiza1 | Heh. |
| 22:45.19 | Prof_Alber1 | gnarfoz, Antiarc: I think there should be some table which spellId (combatlogevent) can be caused by which spellId (spellbook) |
| 22:45.22 | Lukian | hey Antiarc minor display bug with omen |
| 22:45.49 | Lukian | i opened cart while screen flash was happening and screen flash only happened when I had cart open (closing it would hide the flash) |
| 22:45.51 | Gnarfoz | Prof_Alber1: I guess that would be useful for many a addon author, yes |
| 22:45.59 | Antiarc | No, the problem is that the spells in the combat log are completely different from the ones in the spellbook. |
| 22:46.01 | Antiarc | For example: |
| 22:46.08 | Dashkal | Antiarc: How difficult is it to just cough up a bar from a /run? I'm thinking "Laundry in Dryer / 90m" |
| 22:46.09 | Lukian | could be a cart or a sharedmedia bug actually |
| 22:46.33 | Antiarc | If I cast Holy Light (Rank 7) from my spellbook, I get spell ID 35219 |
| 22:46.35 | durcyn | Dashkal: you'd have to create an anchor first, probably going to be easier to do a timer in bigwigs or quartz |
| 22:46.55 | Dashkal | hmm, minor personal addon idea |
| 22:47.23 | durcyn | yeah, or a little stub with a slash command that makes an anchor, that'd work |
| 22:47.24 | Dashkal | Addon that makes quick arbratrary timers all anchored to an out of the way spot on the UI |
| 22:47.53 | Dashkal | I've more than once wanted to use one of those timers for things like laundry or "Call Allan" or the like |
| 22:47.54 | Prof_Alber1 | It's the same when I cast "Life Tap" I get spellID "31818" and the ID of "Life Tap" in the spellbook (with the correct icon) is "27222" |
| 22:48.03 | Dashkal | remind me of the real world |
| 22:49.01 | Prof_Alber1 | so I included a table in Parrot, so far it only has one entry though;) |
| 22:49.02 | Prof_Alber1 | local dumbIconOverride = { |
| 22:49.02 | Prof_Alber1 | [31818] = select(3, GetSpellInfo(27222)), -- Life Tap |
| 22:49.02 | Prof_Alber1 | } |
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| 22:51.41 | CIA-39 | 03durcyn * r70261 10Omniscience/ (Omniscience.toc core.lua data.lua): Omniscience: variable scoping is hard. |
| 22:57.02 | Mechiza1 | So, for the chronically impatient, how often does the zip script run? |
| 22:57.19 | Ellipsis | every 20 minutes |
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| 22:58.40 | Zhinjio | licks Ellipsis |
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| 23:04.08 | [Liquidor] | Hello everyone :) |
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| 23:09.19 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 23:10.20 | CIA-39 | 037destiny * r70262 10Incubator/Locale-koKR.lua: |
| 23:10.20 | CIA-39 | Incubator: |
| 23:10.20 | CIA-39 | - koKR Update |
| 23:11.27 | Paene | ~api GetSpellInfo |
| 23:11.28 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo |
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| 23:12.26 | ThiefMaster | hi, is there a library for item tooltip modification? (getting the itemid of the item shown, adding lines to it, etc.) |
| 23:12.52 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r70263 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ (ClassModules/Paladin.lua ThreatClassModuleCore.lua): |
| 23:12.52 | CIA-39 | Threat-2.0: |
| 23:12.52 | CIA-39 | - Fix paladin heal threat. Paladin spell IDs have one ID for the cast, and one ID for the heal. Fun! |
| 23:14.24 | Dotted | Funkeh` where did the leading zero go in StatsBlock_Clock? |
| 23:14.25 | NeoTron | Antiarc: wtf? that's a weird setup |
| 23:14.27 | Hjalte | Antiarc: So Paladin healing threat have been wrong untill now? |
| 23:14.34 | Antiarc | Correctamundo. |
| 23:14.47 | Funkeh` | Dotted, guess it ran away |
| 23:14.52 | Delorala | its now... higher? |
| 23:14.54 | Paene | Is there an API call to get the duration of a spell? i.e. how long a target is going to be affected by the debuff? |
| 23:15.00 | Antiarc | They weren't receiving the half-again reduction and weren't getting the Righteous Fury modifier |
| 23:15.03 | Antiarc | So holy paladins will see lower threat |
| 23:15.08 | Delorala | i've seen some of our holys pretty high ! |
| 23:15.11 | Antiarc | Paladins with RF up will see higher heal threat |
| 23:15.13 | Delorala | thats good |
| 23:15.36 | ThiefMaster | ah btw, any plans to add syncing from ktm users? quite annoying not to see any threat if you join a raid which mostly uses ktm (and of course nobody has threat-2.0 running) |
| 23:15.46 | Antiarc | Eventually, but that's really low on the priority list. |
| 23:16.17 | Antiarc | I'm going to read KTM data but likely not publish to it due to traffic concerns |
| 23:16.19 | Dotted | Funkeh` Silverstorm removed it, how can i get it back? |
| 23:17.10 | Funkeh` | Dotted, wait for silver to log irc and ask him to make it an option |
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| 23:17.22 | Dotted | ok |
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| 23:26.37 | Antiarc | http://wowhead.com/?spell=43838 <-- what is that effect from? o.0 |
| 23:26.45 | Antiarc | Ah, nevermind |
| 23:27.10 | Prof_Albert | hehe |
| 23:27.21 | Hjalte | Antiarc: I'm guessing you read the comment :) |
| 23:27.27 | Antiarc | Yes. |
| 23:27.45 | Hjalte | Comments are what makes wowhead > wowdb to me at the moment. |
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| 23:28.48 | NeoTron | Hrm. Rawr.Warlock is err.. flawed |
| 23:29.14 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Go use the spreadsheet at leulier.com instead :) |
| 23:29.28 | NeoTron | I have |
| 23:29.34 | NeoTron | but the results seem a bit weird |
| 23:29.58 | NeoTron | specifically it seems odd to me that value of haste would drop down amzingly if you go firelock vs shadowlock |
| 23:30.21 | NeoTron | like from 1.25-1.29 to 1.05 |
| 23:30.37 | Maelos` | It's because the haste rating is calculated against the base cast time, not spec. |
| 23:30.41 | NeoTron | I know immolate decrease the value somewhat |
| 23:30.52 | Maelos` | So the longer cast time spells benefit more from haste. |
| 23:30.56 | Hjalte | NeoTron: That seems to be about the same in leuliers spreadsheet though. |
| 23:31.09 | NeoTron | Hjalte: that is the data from the spreadsheet |
| 23:31.25 | Maelos` | Haste still seems like the worst of all warlock DPS stats. |
| 23:31.30 | NeoTron | Maelos`: more absolute gain perhaps but not more relative gain surely? |
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| 23:31.42 | NeoTron | haste is clearly the best stat for a shadow lock |
| 23:31.44 | NeoTron | in 2.4 |
| 23:31.52 | Hjalte | Maelos`: Not at all. For shadow destruction, it is very good. |
| 23:31.54 | Maelos` | What changed that? |
| 23:31.57 | NeoTron | life ap |
| 23:31.59 | NeoTron | err |
| 23:32.04 | NeoTron | GCD change + lifetap |
| 23:32.13 | Shadowed | because CandyBar is evil |
| 23:32.16 | Shadowed | and |
| 23:32.17 | Maelos` | I hadn't facted the lifetap aspect. |
| 23:32.19 | NeoTron | 1 dmg ~= 1.29 haste |
| 23:32.24 | Maelos` | Hmm, wow. |
| 23:32.26 | Shadowed | apparently I should make it so my IRC client shows that you're scrolled up |
| 23:32.26 | NeoTron | so 12 dmg gem compared to 12.9 haste |
| 23:32.32 | NeoTron | in the calc I'm using |
| 23:32.40 | Maelos` | I'm still leary about that. |
| 23:32.58 | NeoTron | we have two locks, myself an another, that changed all gems to haste |
| 23:33.00 | NeoTron | we top dps |
| 23:33.04 | NeoTron | typically |
| 23:33.31 | NeoTron | ironically though for fire dps it seems to be the direct opposite |
| 23:33.36 | NeoTron | dmg > haste > crit |
| 23:33.49 | CIA-39 | 03grennon * r70264 10AutoTurnin/AutoTurninGlobals.lua: |
| 23:33.49 | CIA-39 | AutoTurnin: |
| 23:33.49 | CIA-39 | Yay, Sunwell Roots/Murloc Quests English |
| 23:35.26 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Wait, with fire destruction, didn't you say haste was 1.05? that still makes it more than 1 for spell damage, but of course it's less when thinking of gems. |
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| 23:35.52 | CIA-39 | 03antiarc * r70265 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua: Threat-2.0: Remove SR from VE heals. |
| 23:36.11 | NeoTron | Hjalte: right. 1 haste > 1 dmg but 12 dmg = 10 haste for gems |
| 23:36.19 | NeoTron | haste is more expensive so dmg ends up being superior |
| 23:36.22 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Yeah, exactly |
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| 23:38.10 | Maelos | Bah, connection dropped. |
| 23:38.36 | Maelos | But yeah, I still haven't seen a really solid ISB model. |
| 23:39.03 | Hjalte | Maelos: tried both the one in leuliers spreadsheet and at leulier.com ? |
| 23:39.27 | Nandini | omg i can't believe they are soliciting music videos for "Rogues Do It From Behind" for a contest |
| 23:40.01 | NeoTron | Maelos`: When we ran shadowseer which calculates benefit of ISB the benefit ends up being around 10% |
| 23:40.18 | Nandini | i guess WoW's "T" rating includes "Suggestive Themes" |
| 23:40.24 | Ackis | hmmm does anyone get a problem with disabling add-ons for one character disabled them for every character? |
| 23:40.27 | NeoTron | if the spreadsheet is correct, 1 destro warlock fire spec would do so much additional own dps to offset the loss of a shadow priest |
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| 23:41.26 | Hjalte | NeoTron: Our raid leader won't let me try fire destruction, because he is afraid of the less ISB uptime -> less mana back for healers from shadow priest. |
| 23:41.55 | NeoTron | that is a valid concern, of course |
| 23:42.01 | NeoTron | good thing I'm the raid leader >:-) |
| 23:42.41 | Maelos | Yes I've tried both spreadsheets and I don't trust them |
| 23:43.06 | Maelos | Also, how does haste play into things when you have a shadow priest? |
| 23:43.12 | Chaud | spreadsheets are tricky. |
| 23:43.19 | Maelos | I'm guessing it immediately becomes worse trhan crit. |
| 23:43.26 | Maelos | Because you are tapping much less frequently. |
| 23:43.39 | Maelos | The problem is the spreadsheets assume ideal situations, which of course they have to do |
| 23:45.31 | Nandini | they don't have to make those assumptions, but it greatly simplifies them :) |
| 23:47.30 | CIA-39 | 03alar * r70266 10AlarBGHelper/ (AlarBGHelper.lua AlarBGHelper.toc localization-enUS.lua): (log message trimmed) |
| 23:47.30 | CIA-39 | AlarBGHelper 3.4.0 RC2 |
| 23:47.30 | CIA-39 | Feature: Beta - In Warsong Gulch, show timers for carrier trackability and |
| 23:47.30 | CIA-39 | debuff. Timer are "approssimatives" because Blizzard itself says "about 10 |
| 23:47.30 | CIA-39 | minutes". Besides that.. testing it is awful.. I am waiting for some feedback |
| 23:47.34 | CIA-39 | from you. |
| 23:47.36 | CIA-39 | Feature: timer bar for trackability when you are the flag carrier |
| 23:47.39 | Maelos | I'm sticking with dmg/crit. |
| 23:47.56 | exor674 | hasn't that same log message gone out 5 times? |
| 23:48.06 | Zhinjio | ... approssimatives. dig it. |
| 23:49.40 | Nandini | ... testing it is awful ... |
| 23:49.40 | Nandini | wow, i think i'll go right out and instsall that! :) |
| 23:49.51 | Ellipsis | I like how he's waiting for feedback from "you" |
| 23:49.57 | Nandini | i never hold a flag long enough to get the debuff anyways |
| 23:49.58 | exor674 | you know |
| 23:50.01 | Ellipsis | the many many users of the ever so popular AlarBGHelper |
| 23:50.05 | exor674 | 5$ Alar never uses their own mods |
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| 23:50.17 | Nandini | if it's approaching 5 mins, i just drop it or run it back to their flag room, i don't support a turtle on either side |
| 23:50.53 | Chaud | you jerk. |
| 23:51.02 | Gngsk | neither do I, but I support AlarBGHelper |
| 23:51.33 | Nandini | sspvp2 has had flag held timers for almost a year now |
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| 23:52.00 | Nandini | and also last capture time, for my giant druid flag running epeen |
| 23:52.32 | Zhinjio | does it make a graphic that forces the flag to stick out from your middle and bob as you run? |
| 23:52.43 | Chaud | druid in WSG feels OP |
| 23:53.03 | Chaud | I play my friend's resto druid and it is so easy if only a few people come after you |
| 23:53.06 | Chaud | especially mages =( |
| 23:53.27 | Nandini | my best time from post to post (with no boots) is 1 min, 1 sec. i've never been able to break the 60 second barrier |
| 23:53.33 | sacarasc | how fast is druid travel form speed? |
| 23:53.47 | Nandini | it's 160.9% (+60.9%) |
| 23:53.55 | Nandini | with the set bonus |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-39 | 03benumbed * r70267 10DaHud/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-39 | DaHud: |
| 23:54.04 | CIA-39 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.07 | sacarasc | ;o |
| 23:54.13 | Nandini | slightly faster than a normal mount |
| 23:54.24 | sacarasc | so much better than my shammies 40% ;( |
| 23:54.40 | Nandini | it's 40% without the set bonus for druids |
| 23:54.53 | Chaud | losing the 4 set was sad |
| 23:54.57 | Chaud | go so much slower |
| 23:55.02 | Nandini | at least your pvp sets allow you to do something other than run away fast :P |
| 23:57.47 | Dashkal | You mean druids do more than hot and run? |
| 23:58.56 | sacarasc | they stealth sometimes too |
| 23:59.30 | Dashkal | oh yeah! so they can sneak up and hot without getting killed first, gotcha |
| 23:59.31 | rubik | durids is serious business |
