IRC log for #wowace on 20080419

00:00.08DashkalOh, and time calculations fucking SUCK
00:00.33Pkekyo|^^
00:00.42Dashkalgiven x milliseconds, round to the nearest hour, on the half hour
00:00.50Pkekyo|meh
00:00.57Dashkal_not pretty_
00:01.26Pkekyo|2am...brilliant
00:01.39Pkekyo|ought to go to bed then
00:01.46Pkekyo|but still an hour left of Starship Troopers :/
00:01.57aestilthe movie?
00:02.22Dashkalflees before the cycle repeats itself
00:02.24Pkekyo|aye
00:02.38Pkekyo|if I ever start calculating time remaining on books I read; please kill me
00:03.58DashkalI should plug a 7 minute window into my code and see what happens to it :p
00:05.48Pkekyo|er...why?
00:06.12sag_ich_nichtwtf
00:06.15sag_ich_nichtWAU got an update?
00:06.17sag_ich_nichtpokes sylvanaar
00:06.38sylvanaarpokes back
00:07.38Cryectwhy are you watching that awful movie, go read the book instead :-p
00:08.27Pkekyo|Cryect: can't afford it, and it'd take ages for me to get it in english :<
00:08.33Pkekyo|will have to read it sometime though
00:09.09CryectThe movie is barely related to the book as well besides like the name and the enemy is some sort of bugs
00:09.12DashkalCryect: the movie had it's purpose.  It managed to convey quite a bit of the message to an audience that doesn't believe in use of grey matter...
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00:09.36Pkekyo|- and to arsehats like me that didn't know there was a book :>
00:10.11sag_ich_nichthey Zeksie :P
00:10.17CryectWell it misses messages like about race doesn't matter and things like that
00:10.19sag_ich_nicht[15:36] <+CIA-44> Ace: zeksie * r70318 ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Better pre-checking of WIM and Cellular before trying to hook them. <--do that with TellTrack too :P
00:10.40Pkekyo|Cryect: so the book is...anti racist basicly?
00:10.45Cryectuh no
00:10.49Cryectthats just one of the minor messages
00:11.02Pkekyo|'cause I get enough of crap like that in this PC liberal society I live in *shrug*
00:11.10Cryectsomething at the very end adds that in which is completely absent from the movie and it doesn't work for a movie anyways
00:11.22Zeksiesag_ich_nicht: tell track is not hooked, nor do i now hook the vanilla wow chat thing.. it uses the add message filter now
00:11.28Cryectand how do you drop the coolness of power armor for men in just plain armor :(
00:11.39Pkekyo|I like the movie armor tbh
00:11.49ZeksieChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter(
00:11.55CryectThe opening sequence of the book is just so much better than anything in the movie
00:11.57Pkekyo|looks fancypants and sci-fi without overdoing it like most sci-fi flicks do
00:12.02sag_ich_nicht[02:11] <Zeksie> sag_ich_nicht: tell track is not hooked, nor do i now hook the vanilla wow chat thing.. it uses the add message filter now <--OIC
00:12.09sag_ich_nichtyou should have written that in the commit :P
00:12.14sag_ich_nichtthen i wouldn't have said anything!
00:12.14sag_ich_nichtD:
00:12.14DashkalThere's no way SST the move could have done the power armor justice...
00:12.22Zeksiei did. when i did that change, 2 weeks ago
00:12.23Pkekyo|maybe so...not gonna read it until I can get my hands on an english copy of that book anyways soeh
00:12.28sag_ich_nichtwhat
00:12.29Cryectwell the movie didn't do about anything justice :-p
00:12.32sag_ich_nichtthen it shouldn't break anymore
00:12.35sag_ich_nicht~lart Guillotine
00:12.35purlteaches Guillotine that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right.
00:12.41DashkalI'll take what they used instead of how they would have raped the armor :p
00:12.44sag_ich_nichti blame you! for no apparent reasoN!
00:12.47Zeksieit never broke before
00:12.49sag_ich_nicht-N +n
00:12.52aestilstarship troopers is about governing, and how that should be done, and by who.
00:12.58sag_ich_nichtZeksie: it breaks here, i dunno why tho >.>
00:13.05Zeksieopperator error.. replace user and press any key
00:13.05aestilits wrapped up in a story about fighting bugs with really cool personal combat suits.
00:13.16sag_ich_nichtit's been breakin since forever too, but we couldn't reproduce it, remember? :P
00:13.25sag_ich_nichtwell, you couldn't, i could fine >.>
00:13.28Pkekyo|methinks the bugs are awesome tbh :>
00:13.35Pkekyo|weren't there made a SST game a few years back?
00:13.40Zeksieanyway. without wim/cellular. there is ZERO hooking happening now
00:13.47Cryectyeah
00:13.47Dashkalan sst game adaptation? *flees*
00:13.56Dashkalflees in utter terror
00:13.56Zeksieso, it's really none of my fault ;)
00:14.01Pkekyo|I remember playing a demo of some sort, took place at the outpost ambush
00:14.02sag_ich_nichtZeksie: why does it hook wim/cellular?
00:14.06Pkekyo|it sucked arseballs though
00:14.10Cryectthe power armor in the book is more like elemental armor from Battletech/Mechwarrior if you were curious
00:14.22Cryectexcept with a little more overpowered weaponry
00:14.29Zeksieso you don't get spammed with the stuff you send out. same reason for originally hooking the wow chat
00:14.31rubikcan a holy paladin tank the murlocs on morogrim? or won't be able to pull it off cause not enough threat?
00:14.38DashkalHand-held nukes...
00:14.41Zeksieyou don't wanna see all the whispers in/out of !buff stuff
00:14.41Cryectheh yes
00:14.46Xinhuanwhat exactly did you update in WAU sylvanaar ;p
00:14.54Zeksiethe font!
00:15.02sylvanaari posted it on the wau thread
00:15.08Xinhuanok
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00:15.09Xinhuani'll look
00:15.17sag_ich_nichtZeksie: i see that in telltrack tho :) (now don't ask me why)
00:16.00Xinhuanwow, i might actually update from 1.9.42 ;p
00:16.02Zeksieprolly cos telltrack isn't using the new message filtering
00:16.08sylvanaarlol
00:16.26sag_ich_nichtZeksie: prolly :P
00:16.34Pkekyo|hand-held nukes? SEXY :D
00:16.35Zeksieso go bug him instead ;)
00:16.54sag_ich_nichti annoyed Guillotine about it enough already >.> needs a rewrite >.>
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00:17.42Cryectalso the movie kinda doesn't have chaplains in the small squads which warhammer 40k kinda took from starship troopers
00:17.42Pkekyo|anyone know what the SST combat rifle was based upon? :P
00:17.48Pkekyo|(movie one)
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00:18.37DARKGuy'night ^^
00:19.04Pkekyo|g'mornin
00:19.07DARKGuy=)
00:19.31DARKGuyHm, what's a good AddOn for playing music in-game?
00:19.48Pkekyo|no such thing
00:19.57DARKGuythere is
00:20.00Pkekyo|just use winamp and locate your [alt] and [tab] keys
00:20.07Pkekyo|there's such an addon, but no good ones tbh
00:20.23ZyndromeWinamp + G15 , or global hotkeys :<
00:20.27DARKGuyalt+tab kills my comp
00:20.31DARKGuyI have no money for G15 :(
00:20.42Ashra1There used to be a mod for winamp called sneaky amp, you could typ ecommands like #next
00:20.59Ashra1in any chat and it would control winamp
00:21.02Pkekyo|DARKGuy: then fucking buy a new one, your current one is rubbish and you shouldn't be allowed on the intarwebs
00:21.04steevis the author of prat around?
00:21.12DARKGuyPkekyo|, LoL :)
00:21.28Cryectmaybe he has a better keyboard than the G15?
00:21.28Pkekyo|seriously though
00:21.35sag_ich_nichtmeh
00:21.39DARKGuyya but I wanna select some songs instead of giving WinAmp shuffle mode and getting into WoW, it's a downer to be raiding listening to Pantera then randomly switches to Alicia Keys
00:21.39sag_ich_nichtnobody needs a G15
00:21.44sylvanaarsteev whats up
00:21.50sag_ich_nichtDARKGuy proptip
00:21.50DARKGuyWho needs a G15? I have G20
00:22.00DARKGuyj/k.
00:22.01Ashra1pantera and alecia keyes in the same playlist?
00:22.11DARKGuyEh, I listen to random music
00:22.18sag_ich_nichtget a MX518, uberoptions, redirect the top button to F13 and bind F13 to "next song" in winamp
00:22.24sylvanaarG15 wad great when you could still use keyspam mods
00:22.25sag_ich_nicht(YES windows DOES do terminal keys :P)
00:22.25steevsylvanaar: i *think* there's an issue with prat and glorylib - glory 2.0 requires libbabble-zone-3.0
00:22.27ckknightI really need to get like, CIA for Cart3 outputting here :-P
00:22.36ckknightI just pushed a good commit
00:22.36sylvanaarsteev yep
00:23.02DARKGuyI'm planning to get a new keyboard someday, but that day is not today, soo...
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00:23.25steevif its not prat, then its fubar_honorfu thats the issue - but im trying to track down why im always getting the error because i have glorylib "installed"
00:23.53sylvanaarno, im pretty sure its prat
00:23.55DARKGuyWell to the hell with it, I'm making my own MP3 AddOn.
00:24.27steevsylvanaar: well i tried copying the libbabblezone-3.0 folder into prat's libs folder and im still getting the error
00:24.55sylvanaari dont doubt it
00:26.44sylvanaari already got sucking into updating wau, im going to go get my rc helicopter before i do any more damage
00:27.03sylvanaars/sucking/sucked/
00:30.40ChompersAceLocale-2.2-40629 (Ace2):487: AceLocale(AtlasLoot): Translation "Crusader's Scaled Battlegear" does not exist.
00:30.48Chompersif that means anything to anyone
00:31.08Chomperssame for "Crusader's Ornamented Battlegear"
00:31.34Arrowmaster`did they change the layout of AV and forget to update the map?
00:34.40Dashkalsteev: a lil background: Sylv wowquit so you may have trouble getting help with prat.  You might want to look into Chatter.
00:37.48Gary13579Sylv was the one that made Prat?
00:37.52CIA-3803zeksie * r70389 10ZOMGBuffs/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
00:37.52CIA-38ZOMGBuffs:
00:37.52CIA-38- Probable fix for deDE Crippling Poison naming issue.
00:37.52CIA-38- Sanity check bug fixes in Blessing Manager for modules mode.
00:38.30DashkalGary13579: Core author, anyway.  Lots of modules, lots of authors
00:39.09DARKGuyWht does this new WAU update contain?
00:39.16Gary13579Sad, that's always been one of my favorite addons :(
00:39.31DARKGuys/Wht/What/
00:39.41DARKGuypurl ftw!
00:39.42purlrumour has it, ftw is wtf backwards, or for the win, or for the win
00:39.51DARKGuylol
00:40.06GnarfozDARKGuy: wth just use global hotkeys, it's built in into winamp.
00:40.42Gary13579that or be like me and buy a G15
00:40.42DARKGuyGnarfoz, I have a long playlist, it's stupid to go bashing my WA hotkeys through hundreds of songs
00:40.49DARKGuyI have no money like you so.
00:40.49Gary13579original ones ebay for like $40, it's worth it
00:40.53Arrowmaster`winamp and like every other media player
00:41.10thelibrarians/^$/I didn't say anything before, will it still try to replace?/
00:41.24LoonacyIs there an addon that manages your hotbars, so like when I respec I can have my hotbars have healing spells on the front row, and then respec again and swap out my spells for dps spells?
00:42.37Chompersckknight: have you heard of a film called 'expelled' ?
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00:42.45ckknightI've not
00:42.49JoshBorkeLoonacy: no
00:43.03GnarfozDARKGuy: if it's on shuffle, that point is moot, if it's not, don't start somewhere near Alicia Keys then. :P
00:43.11Chompersits some big evolution bashing film
00:43.19Gary13579I think the real problem, Gnarfoz
00:43.23Chomperspretty sad reading about it :<
00:43.25DARKGuyGnarfoz, I have it on shuffle :P
00:43.25Gary13579is that he has alicia keys on his PC.
00:43.51DARKGuyI could have Alicia Keys or Tiesto. I don't want Tiesto when I'm raiding listening to Taproot or Static-X
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00:43.56DARKGuySame fscking thing.
00:44.14DARKGuy:P
00:44.16GnarfozDARKGuy: so, you just don't want alicia keys, hit next! no need to actually select something you want... that's what shuffle is for ;[
00:44.35Gnarfozalso: maximized windowed mode.
00:44.43Pkekyo|oh fuck me sideways...I'm off
00:44.43Pkekyo|g'nite
00:44.45DARKGuyGnarfoz, true, but then I get into the LotR mood and want the OST to play without shuffle :P
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00:45.06Gnarfozand instead of spending cash on a crappy keyboard or an even crappier mouse: get more ram.
00:45.09Gary13579Gnarfoz: Playlists. Use em.
00:45.11DARKGuyIn other words, alttabbing kills my entire gaming
00:45.13Gary13579err
00:45.21Gary13579DARKGuy: Playlists. Use em.
00:45.28DARKGuyWhat part of "I have no money" you all don't understand?
00:45.29DARKGuyHell.
00:45.36Gary13579playlists are free?
00:45.39DARKGuy:P
00:45.49DARKGuyYea, I've been doing that but it gets tiring and tedious
00:45.57DARKGuythat's why I want something in-game
00:46.07GnarfozDARKGuy: alt-tabing might take a while, it doesn't kill anything =.= also: again, maximized windowed mode, alt-tabing will be swift.
00:46.20Gary13579yeah, maximized window alt tabbing is instant
00:46.40Gary13579that's what I use to check IRC while afk in raids
00:46.41Gary13579lol
00:47.12DARKGuyI've done that too, comp loses a few FPS in maximized mode and I want something without using alt+tab.
00:47.32DARKGuyI may someday get angry and hit my keyboard and break the alt & tab keys.
00:47.39DARKGuy:P
00:47.53Gary13579so then you need to buy a new keyboard anyway
00:47.53DARKGuyOkay not true but get the point? ¬¬
00:47.55Gary13579so buy a G15!
00:47.59DARKGuyyeah:P
00:48.38Gary13579I couldn't live with a normal keyboard again
00:48.44Gnarfozbuy keyboards from keyboard makers, not mice makers (same goes for speakers and other shit logitech thinks they can do well ^^)
00:49.12Gary13579besides the fact that g15 is better than most keyboards I've seen, ya
00:49.32Gary13579rays g15 winamp plugin makes it even better
00:49.47DARKGuyI'd bet :P I have a Genius keyboard right now o,o
00:49.57Gnarfozmaybe the non-"type stuff on a keyboard" parts of it
00:50.30DARKGuyWho needs a G15 when you can have that LED keyboard? the one that changes the keys depending on the game you're playing? :P
00:50.46Gary13579yeah
00:50.51Gary13579I'd definetly get that over the G15
00:51.05Gary13579but that (optimus maximus) is a couple thousand %
00:51.08Gary13579$ bah D:
00:51.09DARKGuyme too, I could get rid of all my action bards >:)
00:51.10Gnarfozit's even worse to type on, but go ahead
00:51.17DARKGuy*bars
00:51.45Gary13579Gnarfoz: Really?
00:51.55Gnarfozyou'd probably buy a car by its stereo system instead of how well you could get around town with it ;>
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00:53.10RaydenUanyone here use arkinventory?
00:53.19Gary13579I wouldn't find the G15 as nice if I had a second monitor
00:53.39Gary13579I'd still use it if I had it, but wouldn't be as essential
00:53.46RaydenUit doesn't work right since 2.4
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00:53.55Gary13579nope, sorry :(
00:54.12RaydenUit forgot what all the items are
00:54.18trihmm.. found an issue with omen if anyone wants to know? :P
00:54.22RaydenUit didn't forget, it just overwrote it with "unknown"
00:54.41RaydenUand i can't add a single bar
00:54.44RaydenUi can have 5 or 10
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00:55.38omeow~seen Antiarc
00:55.40purlantiarc is currently on #wowuidev (13h 14m 27s) #wowace (13h 14m 27s) #curseforge (13h 14m 27s), last said: 'Yes.'.
00:56.25tribasically, nightbane resets aggro every time he lands - omen doesn't reflect that
00:56.33trikeeps the same aggro throughout the whole fight
00:56.55JoshBorkeAntiarc: (08:56:25 PM) tri: basically, nightbane resets aggro every time he lands - omen doesn't reflect that
00:57.02JoshBorkeAntiarc: aka, you fail
00:58.49Gary13579it's done that for a while
00:59.08trioh
00:59.11Gary13579I thought it registered aggro dumps at one point in time
00:59.21triwell, the last time I did nightbane was about 3months ago:P
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01:04.59Chaud@whoever was asking for irc overlay mode
01:05.10Chaudhttp://pcwin.com/Games/Game_Overlay/index.htm
01:05.24sag_ich_nichtOH
01:05.31sag_ich_nichti love you Chaud
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01:05.37sag_ich_nichti wasn't asking about that but OH FUCK YES
01:06.01Chaudit is rather hawt
01:06.05ChaudRATHER HAWT.
01:08.57Dementioi use PowerMenu, it's free
01:08.57DARKGuyThat fscking rocks!
01:09.11Dementiodunno if it'd work in non-windowed mode though
01:09.14Dementiohttp://www.abstractpath.com/powermenu/
01:09.27Chaudit wont
01:09.31Chauduses always on top mode
01:09.33Chaudrather than overlay
01:09.39Dementiothought so
01:10.09Dementioworks great for windowed mode though
01:10.16Parnicdoes anyone know if an event fires when a druid shifts from one form into the same form, such as with a /cast !Cat Form macro?
01:10.29Parnicapparently UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER doesn't fire cause the don't change power types
01:11.04sag_ich_nichtParnic: they change power types, RAGE-->MANA-->RAGE or ENERGY-->MANA-->ENERGY
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01:11.26Parnicbut if you're powershifting from cat to cat, for example, you don't change power types
01:11.33sag_ich_nichtdid you test that?
01:11.34Parnicdoes UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM fire?
01:11.35sag_ich_nichtor do you assume that?
01:11.35Parnici did, yes.
01:11.40sag_ich_nichtweird
01:11.44sag_ich_nichton a druid or having a druid shift?
01:12.04Chaudhmm
01:12.06Parnicif i'm a druid and i am in cat form and i use a macro to do /cast !Cat Form, it puts me back into cat form without ever firing the powertype event
01:12.13Chaudcant click on it in overlay mode though =(
01:12.30Parnicpowershifting to the same form to break CC's and such
01:12.44DARKGuyhow do you use lua_bot ?
01:12.45DARKGuy:(
01:13.00stew_alua>2*6
01:13.00lua_botstew_a: 12
01:13.07DARKGuyAh
01:13.13DARKGuyThanks stew_a :P
01:13.17stew_anp
01:14.14Parnicok, UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_FORM seems to do what i want. UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER breaks on powershifting
01:14.43Obelixprime<PROTECTED>
01:15.16SilverstormObelixprime: ~7000, I think
01:15.42SilverstormI was 10-11k from exalted when 2.4 hit, and I was exalted halfway through the second week's run
01:18.44sag_ich_nichthttp://pastey.net/86006 real pro Gagorian
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01:21.53Elsia~seen Antiarc^
01:21.55purlElsia: i haven't seen 'antiarc^'
01:21.57Elsia~seen Antiarc
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01:22.35CyrezI'm testing out a new layout for the CIA bot in #wowace-ciatest if anybody wants to check it out. Well, as soon as somebody commits something. I don't even know how it's gonna look, lol.
01:22.41Chaudsag_ich_nicht have you tried this overlay thing?
01:23.08sag_ich_nichtChaud: not yet
01:23.51Chaudcant get input mode working right yet =\
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01:26.34CIA-3803sag_ich_nicht * r70390 10NotSimpleCombatLog/nscl.lua:
01:26.34CIA-38NotSimpleCombatLog:
01:26.34CIA-38- Added a comment
01:26.34CIA-38~lart Cyrez
01:26.34purlchops Cyrez in half with a free Solaris 7 CD
01:26.55Cyrez0_0
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01:27.00CyrezTY. ^^
01:27.04Arrowmaster`Cyrez: everybodys moved to WoWUIDev-commits anyway
01:27.12CyrezHrmmm, not bad.
01:27.22Cyrez0_0
01:27.26sag_ich_nichtoh i read that as #WoWUIDev-commits
01:27.31sag_ich_nichtdamnit
01:27.36sag_ich_nichtnow i can't see what it looks like
01:27.40sag_ich_nichti hate you
01:28.43CyrezTraitors. </3
01:28.59CIA-3803gagorian * r70391 10DrDamage/Aura.lua:
01:28.59CIA-38DrDamage:
01:29.00CIA-38- Item info isn't available right away, temporarily disabled consumable code to fix errors
01:29.20durcynyour time is coming to an end, Cyrez.
01:30.37CIA-3803elsia * r70392 10Recount/ (5 files):
01:30.37CIA-38Recount:
01:30.37CIA-38- Added resize grips to resizable windows when unlocked.
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01:37.17Chauduh ohz.
01:37.18ChaudCrul says: LFM! <Notorious> Weekends Raid is going to Naxxaramas again! Be one of a few with T3 set! Time is runing out! WoTLK will remove Naxx from Azeroth! Free rolls on gear! Must have vent, pst!
01:37.31anenigmahmm.  omniscience needing libbars-1.0 from a branch.
01:37.32ChaudDo I go naxx or play arena skirmishes
01:37.37anenigmalol, "free rolls"
01:37.39Chaudand do dailys
01:37.58CIA-3803morgalm * r70393 10MorgDKP/ (13 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
01:37.58CIA-38MorgDKP:
01:37.58CIA-38-Add Mount Hyjal switch to group loot after boss death and ML on boss emerge (need feedback if it works or not)
01:37.58CIA-38- Added FuBar options to menu
01:37.58CIA-38- Added boss attempt mode (detects when you die and records boss attempt if enabled)
01:37.58anenigmathe drops are tokens, and need other scrap materials and other tradegoods materials too
01:37.59CIA-38- Fixed all items being deleted when deleting one event
01:38.03CIA-38- Added ability to add events to raids using raidtracker
01:39.15Chaudwhich one do I do !
01:39.27Chaudwhere is Ackis when you need him =(
01:39.53dranorthey're equally worthless
01:40.05Chauddailys/arena skirmish vs T3
01:40.15dranorroll 0-2
01:41.52ckknighthey Xinhuan
01:42.28rubikanyone use StatBlocks?
01:42.45rubikcan't figure out why the blocks snap together on one toon but not on another (i don't want them to snap)
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01:45.47NeoTronwhat is the format to write a image again? |Tpathtotexture|t?
01:46.48Funkeh`rubik, snap is enabled on blocks you drag, and removed after a ui reload/relog
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01:46.52ckknight|Tpath:size|t
01:46.56ckknightset size to 0
01:47.08Funkeh`NeoTron, |Tpath:w:h:x:y|t
01:47.10NeoTronok got it correct, just not working
01:47.53NeoTrondoes it not work for tga's?
01:48.00Funkeh`yes it does
01:48.13NeoTronso does aceconsole's Print quote it then? hrm
01:48.49Arrowmasterare you typing it in the chat editbox?
01:49.30NeoTronindeed
01:49.45NeoTronI guess that would explain it..
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01:51.38NeoTronok cool it worked
01:54.12CIA-3803parnic * r70394 10IceHUD/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
01:54.12CIA-38IceHUD:
01:54.12CIA-38- changed DruidMana module to (optionally) work with LibDruidMana/DogTag for simplicity/compatibility purposes
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02:03.20NeoTronimagine that
02:03.38NeoTronI got a "you have attempted too many group actions in a short period of time" warning
02:04.09NeoTronwonder what constitutes a group action
02:07.51Ackispinging the mini map does
02:08.34NeoTronraid icon marking
02:08.36NeoTrondoes too
02:08.49NeoTroninteresting how I never noticed this before
02:09.10CIA-3803funkydude * r70395 10BadBoy/BadBoy.toc: BadBoy: toc data
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02:13.54Hjalteckknight: You fixed my bug :)
02:14.01ckknightwhich bug?
02:14.47Hjalteckknight: That when I was moving my character, and then pressing the Z button in Cartographer 3, the map would stop updating untill i hovered my mouse over the map again.
02:15.04ckknightokay
02:15.17ckknightyea
02:15.26ckknightcurrently working on 3rd-party addon support
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02:16.32Hjalteckknight: As with Cartographer, that's what will probably make it really shine. I wonder what people will be able to create for Cartographer 3.
02:17.11Hjalteremembers playing a flight game in Google Maps
02:17.15ckknightwell, I'm getting all the current ones to work with it
02:17.22ckknighte.g. Routes, TomTom, etc.
02:17.24NivFreakI wish there was a way to sync all of my addon's savedvars between machines without screwing up the UI positions
02:18.27ckknightNivFreak: people are working on it here at curse
02:18.36ckknight"roaming profiles"
02:18.49NivFreakwell, I can handle the sync part
02:18.51ckknightdon't think it's done, though
02:18.57NivFreakit's just the UI positional bit
02:19.09NivFreakmoving between machines with different rez/aspect rations
02:19.11NivFreakratios even
02:20.51dranorhm... where i can find a master loot replacement that doesn't require XLoot?
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02:23.57Hjalteckknight: So will Cart 3 require TomTom for waypoints or will you be creating your own module as well?
02:24.19ckknightI plan to write a waypoints module later
02:24.24ckknightbut TomTom will work
02:24.30ckknightI just got it to work (not pushed yet)
02:24.35ckknightI've tested Routes and TomTom
02:24.39ckknightwhat else do people use?
02:24.45ckknightGatherMate and Gatherer, I should test
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02:30.38CIA-3803fenlis * r70396 10WoWEquip/localization.koKR.lua: WoWEquip: - Fixed translation for koKR
02:31.13CIA-38037destiny * r70397 10BigWigs/Outland/Maulgar.lua: BigWigs: Maulgar: Fix spell shield(issue Warn when the mage Spellsteal)
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02:32.07NeoTronman we have this player in the guild that just wasn't up to our raiding requirements so we finally let him go as a raider
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02:32.43Zyndromeand hell broke loose? :O
02:32.44NeoTronand his recruit post on another guilds site is quite sad
02:33.01Hjalteckknight: At the moment I've been able to break the P toggle, by dragging the view of the map away from me, moving the mouse away from the map, having the map begin zooming back and then repeating. At some point, the map won't begin to zoom back untill I move my character, even with the mouse not hovering over the map.
02:33.03NeoTronI was going to help him there but now I am not sure
02:33.19NivFreaktalked a bunch of shit?
02:33.23ckknightHjalte: that's a feature, guy
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02:33.38ckknightHjalte: so you can mess with the map and then once you're done looking, it'll go back to your guy
02:33.58NeoTronNivFreak: basically said that he stepped down from raider and then lost his spot
02:34.02NivFreakwhat addon ck?
02:34.04ckknightwhen you're done looking and you've started moving
02:34.07ckknightNivFreak: Cartographer3
02:34.13NivFreakI love cartographer :)
02:34.23NivFreakNeoTron: haha
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02:34.28NeoTronbasically shooting himself in the foot, andthen in the head in a comment
02:34.57Hjalteckknight: I see :) I just thought it was always supposed to move back to my character when the mouse wasn't hovering the map.
02:34.59NeoTronto put it simply, I'd not recruit someone based on that app
02:35.15ckknightno, once you start moving and unhovered
02:35.36ckknightHjalte: what if you're checking out instances or something?
02:35.38ckknight:-P
02:36.16NeoTronI feel sorry for him but I don't really want to put my reputation on the line
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02:37.07Hjalteckknight: But it just seems very inconsistent to me. Sometimes it moves back when I move my mouse out and sometimes it doesn't.
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02:37.24ckknightit depends on if you're standing around, doing nothing, or moving
02:38.11hypetechI'm sure this isn't a big deal, but for the record, I like the font on the new WAU better than the old one :p
02:38.11NeoTronNivFreak: so I got a branch which I am using now to rework the addon based on the new targeting system
02:38.34Hjalteckknight: If I am standing still, having P toggled on, moving the view away from where my character is and move my mouse out of the map, It is currently moving my view back to my character. And he's still not moving.
02:39.18aestilAntiarc: alt + right click on omen needs to open the options
02:39.26ckknightyea, that happens the first time you click P
02:39.43Funkeh`can anyone actually manage to download tortun from warcraftmovies
02:39.56hypetechtortun?
02:40.06Funkeh`http://warcraftmovies.com/tortun.php
02:40.13Funkeh`part of their new HQ streams
02:40.21Funkeh`the download link fails on me
02:41.38Hjalteckknight: Oh. You're right. Well, it changes to the behaviour you're talking about after having let the view get back to my character fully once. That's what I didn't manage yet, I guess I am impatient :)
02:41.50ckknighthehe
02:42.17ckknightlemme change it so it makes a bit more sense
02:42.21Funkeh`hypetech, does the download link work for you
02:42.27hypetechFunkeh`: nope
02:42.27ckknighti.e. click P, automatically start going to your char
02:42.27hypetech:(
02:42.33Funkeh`crap
02:43.35dranorFunkeh`: timeout
02:48.17ckknightanyone know what tooltip's ANCHOR_PRESERVE goes to?
02:48.48ckknightoh, nvm, puts it near the bottom of UIParent, where the ItemRefTooltip goes
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02:52.59NeoTronhmm. no way to look at a focus target for someone in the raid?
02:53.04NeoTronie. raidXfocus doesn't work
02:53.16Arrowmasternope
02:54.13ckknightokay, got GatherMate working
02:54.29ckknightnote: I'm not putting in support for specific addons, I'm just making the features they use work properly
02:56.25durcynuh, okay?
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02:57.29ckknighthrm, where would I get a prepopulated list of Gatherer nodes?
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02:58.39LoonacyGathermate_Data ?
02:59.00ckknightnot Gathermate
02:59.01ckknightGatherer
02:59.35NechcknGathererAddOn.Com/dl
03:00.01AckisTWINS DOWN FUCK YAH
03:00.03AckisFUCK WOOWOWEIOREWIOEIORPEWJ
03:00.05stew_ayeah they have the wowhead db
03:00.08stew_agrats ackis
03:00.43AckisFunkeh': inc transcriptor of twins kill
03:02.44Funkeh`lol
03:03.10iNs|Renewphase 2 seems pretty incomplete still
03:03.13iNs|Renewin bigwigs
03:03.23Hjalteckknight: Are you going to be creating some kind of POI databse for the minimap texture map in Cartographer3, or will a third party author have to make that?
03:03.41ckknightwhat do you mean?
03:03.43ckknightpoi database?
03:03.48ckknightyou mean for like mining nodes?
03:04.02Funkeh`iNs|Renew, how so
03:04.28Funkeh`someone is complaining on the forums about having to wait -a few hours- for hs svn access
03:04.30ckknightHjalte: I'm not sure what specifically you mean
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03:04.43Funkeh`I might just overlook that one...
03:04.51ckknightlol, Funkeh`
03:05.22Funkeh`I usually do it daily which is better than what it was, monthly, now it needs to be done hourly? :D
03:05.50Ackiswhy not every minute? :P
03:05.53Zyndromeno, by the minute!
03:05.59HjalteNo, I mean like names of cities or something. I showed Cart 3 to a friend of mine, and showed him how one could zoom all the way in etc, but he didn't quite like the minimap texture map because, as he said, it's just an image. I guess he'd like at least some kind of city names or such.
03:06.38iNs|RenewI think the conflag cooldown isnt working right in p2 when sacrolash gains the ability
03:06.57ckknightHjalte: if he wants city names, he can look at the string above that says the name when you hover
03:07.09ckknight:-P
03:07.11NeoTronAckis: grats
03:07.23NeoTronAckis:  we're still trying to get that brutallus figured out
03:07.29NeoTronor rather, deadified
03:07.39Funkeh`less suck more pewpew
03:08.04Hjalteckknight: That's right actually, I hadn't noticed that.
03:08.21Funkeh`durcyn would frown at you all for not taking an opportunity at a your mom joke there
03:08.44Hjalteso would your mom
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03:09.17Hjalteha ha.. eh.. :(
03:09.28Funkeh`you know
03:09.29ckknightwoo, got Gatherer to work
03:09.35Funkeh`that was so offensive
03:09.41Funkeh`'i'm going to quit irc
03:09.44Funkeh`and have a 5min silence
03:10.08ckknightI got TomTom, GatherMate, Gatherer, and Routes working. Are there any other popular addons that alter the map?
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03:12.18Ackisckknight: cartographer
03:12.19Hjaltehttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9924/ seems fairly popular
03:12.25Ackis*hides*
03:12.29ckknightAckis: lulz
03:12.31Hjalte^ Questhelper
03:12.39ckknightoh yea, I should test QH
03:12.46ckknightdespite my desire to crush it
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03:13.15ckknightit's raining really hard
03:13.21Ackiswhat's wrong w/ QH?
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03:13.25ckknightit's peaceful
03:14.32ckknightAckis: I find some of its algorithms to be subpar, also, I can get my hands on the wowdb database really easily
03:15.04Ackisfair enough, was just curious... wowdb = curse = your job?
03:15.16ckknightyea
03:15.26ckknightI can get a proper dump of the db
03:15.27ckknightno scraping
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03:15.38ckknightall I'd need to do is stick a curse flame on the addon somewhere
03:15.53Ackislol if i stick the curse flame on ARL can I get a job? ;) lol
03:15.57Ackisbad joke :P
03:16.07ckknightdepends on your qualifications
03:16.52Ackisi have qualifications, no professional coding experience.  Decided to go into information security
03:17.04ckknightyea, I didn't have professional coding experience either
03:17.08ckknightthey still hired me for some reason
03:17.14ckknightI don't even have a CS degree
03:17.32Arrowmasterdo you have a degree?
03:17.44ckknightno, I left college after a year, I'm only 20
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03:18.09NefarionAnyone know anything about tweaking modems?
03:18.21Ackisreally? but you also have some very well known add-ons... I do a search for ARL and i mostly get asian sites
03:18.53NefarionI'm stuck on dialup and minutes after connecting to WoW, I lose connection, without the dialup program even recognizing that I did. Is there anything I can tweak to keep it stable so I can at least try to play?
03:19.00Funkeh`Ackis, has ARK been out for 2 years? ;p
03:19.09Funkeh`arl
03:19.20Ackislol
03:19.27Ackisi'm just lazy and ARL = lame name
03:19.43Viper0000am i the only one here who suffers on the server spinebroken?
03:19.51Viper0000it crashes at least 5x a day
03:20.00Nefarionhigh pop?
03:20.05stew_aouch, my server was like that a couple of months ago
03:20.27Viper0000this server was like this since 2004 release day
03:20.30NefarionYeah my server went through an unstable period a couple weeks
03:20.47Viper0000i have way to many friends to xfer off though
03:20.49NefarionThen let them know in tech support?
03:20.50Viper0000RL friends
03:20.55Viper0000lol
03:21.04Viper0000a friend of mine talked to a GM
03:21.11NefarionSo nobody can help with my problem?
03:21.13Viper0000and he said they didnt even know the serv was having problem
03:21.20Viper0000there's never any blue posts about the issues
03:21.23stew_amy server had an unstable month or 2, we had 3 full threads on our realm forum before we got a blue reply that they were "looking into the problem"
03:21.25NefarionI talked to a GM before. He told me I'm allowed to bot.
03:21.30NefarionTech Support >>>>>>> GMs
03:21.33dranorspinebreaker.eu?
03:21.43CIA-3803durcyn * r70398 10Omniscience/core.lua: Omniscience: Add options - not fully populated yet, etc
03:21.50Viper0000us serv
03:22.13NefarionViper0000: If it's been like that since the start, have you considered the problem is with your ISP or hardware?
03:22.15dranorwell, it's eu counterpart shares its stability
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03:24.15totemhello, anyone able to tell me if something is possible or not
03:24.44Viper0000norgs, it's the server lol
03:24.45totemvery simple little project, simple swap in a totem at the end of a swing timer ever 6 seconds
03:24.50Viper0000look at the spinebreaker forums
03:24.54Viper0000it's nicknamed spinebroken
03:25.03kd3or the customer service forums
03:25.12Viper0000http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11421&sid=1
03:25.38Viper0000trust me it's the same minimum of 3 crashes a day if im at home, at my dorm at school or at a hotel
03:26.11Fisker-kd3
03:26.16Fisker-what time is it eastern right now?
03:26.22kd323:26
03:26.31Fisker-thanks
03:26.31Viper000011:24 PM
03:26.34Fisker-also
03:26.35Fisker-your mother
03:27.05Viper0000i believe it's been proven that spinebraeker used to be a diablo 2 server
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03:27.13ZyndromeViper0000 , it's spreading here in the EU
03:27.24Zyndromemy realm breaks into peices pretty much every day
03:27.26Viper0000constantly spinebreaker is going down
03:27.31Viper0000plus sometimes the entire battlegroup goes down
03:27.38Viper0000at least once a weak the entire Rampage group goes down
03:28.06totemso is that possible to mod?
03:30.22totemor even simipler just swap totem in every 10 seconds and then back out again
03:30.53Ordogdarn i hate the internet
03:30.55Fisker-i'm cold kd3
03:30.56Fisker-hold me
03:31.23Ordogyou know, when you are standin in front of the kitchensink doing the dishes and suddely the KILLER idea appears in your forehead and you keep thinking about it and it turns out it could REALLY WORK
03:31.29kd3tosses a porcupine fisker's direction
03:31.32Ordogand you grab a pencil and scriblle that down making a note "REGISTER PATENT IMMIDIATELY"
03:31.42Ordogthe more you keep thinking about it (wow i havent seen ANYTHING LIKE IT)
03:32.01Ordogthen you fucking use google and do some basic searches with terms you CAME UP WITH!
03:32.11Ordogand somebody else founded your business idea and it turned out to be a cashcow beeing awarded TONS of innivation awards ...
03:32.19Ordogi hate life 8/
03:32.20Ordog^^
03:32.22ckknightwhat innovation?
03:33.07DarkElfhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/12298/ hmm the things ya find on curse, another cartographer
03:35.47ckknightgood thing I'm a staff member
03:35.51ckknightdelete project
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03:36.34ckknightDarkElf: check again ;-)
03:36.34Ordogckknight: oh just sth like Multiverse Network or Hero Engine and the like :)
03:36.42Aiiane_oh ok, saves me the trouble of reporting it ckknight :P
03:37.19Funkeh`Ackis, log!
03:37.40ckknightOrdog: okay
03:38.17Ordogwell my idea is a bit different but the basic idea is very similar
03:38.30Ordognever trust a sleepy mind beeing distracted by dishwashing ^^
03:38.57AckisFunkey': just posting it now
03:39.05Ackiswow butchered your name
03:39.40DarkElfcurse took that page down quick
03:39.57ckknightDarkElf: dude, it's my project, I'm an admin at curse
03:40.03ckknightI deleted it
03:40.10ckknightI just didn't notice it before
03:40.17Fisker-wishes to be an admin too
03:40.31ckknightno
03:40.42Fisker-i very much do
03:40.44ckknightI'm only an admin cause I happen to work for curse
03:41.07DarkElfyeah i know its urs thats why i wanted ya to see the double post
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03:45.40CIA-3803kunda * r70399 10HandyNotes/ (HandyNotes_EditFrame.lua Locales/Locale-deDE.lua):
03:45.40CIA-38HandyNotes:
03:45.40CIA-38- EditFrame: moved OK Button to the left side and CANCEL Button to the right side (de facto standard)
03:45.40CIA-38- deDE update
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03:48.34RaydenUis there a good mod for the mag fight?
03:48.40RaydenUfor organizing who clicks and whatnot?
03:49.59HjalteRaydenU: Pick five names and write them down in a macro :)
03:50.57Ackiswow funkeh', bigwigs isn't updated yet :P
03:51.00Funkeh`log maybe?
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03:51.56Funkeh`k
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03:52.49hydrogenRaydenU: make sure the five people you pick are not the THAT GUY's
03:52.49Ackislol posted it a while ago... doing post kill celebrations/excitement stuff :P but it's up there for you... it's more than just the kill, a few attempts as well
03:53.13RaydenU?
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03:55.47Fisker-destroys kd3 btw
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03:57.32Chaudpeople are fail =
03:57.36Chaudpug SSC on friday night
03:57.51ZiconThat sounds like ... fun.
03:57.57Chaud[W:From] Duckhole: <Deadly Boss Mods> Morogrim Tidewalker down after 7 minutes and 53 seconds!
03:58.40Ackischaud: twins down
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03:58.51Fisker-twins are ez
03:59.17ChaudAckis ur bad
03:59.21sylvanaari burt out the motor on my rc heli, now i have to wait another week for a new one
03:59.35Chaudsylvanaar during that week you can keep working on WAU rite =p
03:59.37Fisker-how does one burt out the motor?
03:59.38Fisker-rawr
03:59.59sylvanaarapparently one burns it out during pre-flight checks
04:00.22sylvanaarit actualy made smoke
04:00.31Fisker-but burning isn't burting
04:00.32Fisker-hoho
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04:01.21ChaudWILL THE HALF PUG DOWN VASHJ?
04:01.44sylvanaarwell, if its burnt or burt i still need a new one
04:04.26Gary13579Chaud: lol no
04:05.19sylvanaarChaud i think the changes that just went it should be enough for now. (ps. start using the donate button on the main page, except, let me give you my email so you can paypal me, rofl)
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04:09.36ChaudI have no idea what changed tonight, been to busy to check forum
04:09.43Ackishttp://www.teamice.org/images/news/2008.April.19/Twins-large.jpg
04:11.30Chaudclearly photoshopped
04:12.05Ackistruth
04:12.17ckknightAckis: I like the frog suit
04:12.22Ackislol thanks
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04:14.27ChaudI found the only SS I have of Ackis earlier
04:14.47Chaudhttp://urbad.net/murloc.jpg
04:14.57Ackishttp://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5277/ackisfv2.jpg ?
04:15.13Ackislol
04:15.21Ackisthat's old... when I was in notor
04:16.12ChaudI had my 60 gear still in the bank too =D
04:16.17Chauddeleted that all =\
04:17.11Ackislol
04:17.20AckisI have my tier 0.5 -> 6 all in the bank
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04:17.51Ackisneed more slots :(
04:18.58Chaudrofl
04:19.06Chaudwe failed at going naxx tonight
04:19.13Chaudonly could get 1 healer to gk =\
04:19.15Chaud*go
04:19.27Ackis=/
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04:20.38CIA-3803funkydude * r70400 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Twins: Hopefully fix phase 2 warnings
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04:21.00Ackisyay funkeh'
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04:27.02EvilJohn_woot Mother Shaz down
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04:32.13Funkeh`Apoco, around?
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04:33.12starlonThis is really strange. All of the statusbars in this addon stopped working. >.> No errors
04:34.29Apocoyar!
04:34.47Apocosuppers?
04:35.07ApocoFunkeh`?
04:35.29Funkeh`Apoco, don't still happen to have a felmyst log? think I deleted mine
04:36.32starlonah there we go
04:37.08ApocoI can find one I'm sure
04:37.21Apocowww.assimx.net/FelmystLog.rar?
04:37.22Apocotry that
04:37.46Apocoif you are looking for an Ecnap event it doesnt exist
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04:38.56Apocowww.assimx.net/Transcriptor-Felmyst.lua
04:38.57Apocosorry
04:39.29Apocoif you need a kill letme know
04:39.35ApocoI should have one in my 500g combatlog.txt file
04:42.03Apocobest I could do is find SPELL_DAMAGE
04:42.06Apocothen scan for target
04:44.54starlonAnyone know why UNIT_SPELLCAST_START fires incessantly for targettarget?
04:45.18Apocobecause its bugged
04:45.27starlonreally? bah
04:45.30Arrowmasterthat fires for targettarget?
04:45.37starlonyeah over and over
04:46.00starlonat least it does when I target myself
04:46.11ApocoArrowmaster: go find me bugs for RBM v2
04:46.27Arrowmasterwhy would i use RBM
04:46.38Apocodidnt ask you to use it
04:46.40Apocojust find bugs in it
04:46.41Apoco-_-
04:46.49Arrowmasterfuck that im watching anime
04:47.27Apoco:(
04:47.29Apocoso mean
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04:54.39laggerwhat does making __index = sometable exactly do in a metamethod
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04:56.48CIA-3803seppyk * r70402 10HeadCount/ (19 files in 2 dirs):
04:56.48CIA-38HeadCount: initial commit
04:56.48CIA-38Manages tracking of raid attendance, loot, and more.
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05:10.15ZeddeHello
05:10.37Zeddebug that allmot all of my addons in WAU has a line over it ?
05:10.47Zeddelike they are outofdate ?
05:11.38SilverstormZedde: what kind of line?
05:12.46Zeddein teh standard view list there is a line over the addons
05:13.15Zeddelike the addons that they would be Outdated
05:13.31ZeddeI just updated the software
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05:15.59Silverstormhmm, I don't use a new version of WAU, so not sure how to help
05:16.21Zeddeyou understand what I mean ?
05:16.44Silverstormnot sure.  mine show up with a gray bar across them, but not a line
05:18.49ZeddeI'm running 1.9.46.726
05:19.40CIA-3803seppyk * r70404 10HeadCount/:
05:19.40CIA-38HeadCount:
05:19.40CIA-38- Initial commit / SVN Test
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05:21.20Zeddelooks like the WAU checks if I have forced the addons to load in wow
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05:25.29Fisker-genius >O
05:25.30Fisker-:O
05:25.46Fisker-http://i30.tinypic.com/2a4pitk.jpg
05:25.56ZyndromeYo what's up?
05:26.02Zyndromebrilliant
05:26.55Fisker-btw spoiler
05:26.58Fisker-he ate the sandwich
05:27.23Zyndromeif you have Steam: steam://run/5032
05:27.31Zyndrome(in your intertubes browser)
05:27.46Fisker-or just run
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05:28.52Zyndromejust tried some Zombie Panic Source, that was fun .. especially when the admin suddenly used noclip, flew around randomly and played the Superman theme D:
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05:30.52CIA-3803seppyk * r70405 10HeadCount/HeadCount.toc:
05:30.52CIA-38HeadCount: TOC change
05:30.52CIA-38- Updated TOC for OptionalDeps and X-Embeds
05:32.33CIA-3803ananhaid * r70406 10Parrot/Code/ (Parrot.lua Triggers.lua):
05:32.33CIA-38Parrot:
05:32.33CIA-38- zhCN/zhTW update.koKR/frFR pre-update(SpellId not locale).
05:32.33CIA-38- Trigger revert to short describe,easy for locale.
05:34.11CIA-3803neotron * r70407 10FuBar_MagicMarker/MMFu.lua: FuBar_MagicMarker: Formatting change.
05:34.29CIA-3803scorpion * r70408 10Cryolysis2/Locales/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua):
05:34.29CIA-38Cryolysis2:
05:34.29CIA-38- Updated zhTW localization
05:34.29CIA-38- Updated zhCN localization
05:36.01Apoco~lua local test = "Rwar %d"; test:format("1.2")
05:36.14CIA-3803neotron * r70409 10/branches/MagicMarker/ (Config.lua MagicMarker.lua):
05:36.14CIA-38MagicMarker:
05:36.14CIA-38- Refactored to fully use the new mark prioritization code.
05:36.14CIA-38- Removed all traces of the old marking code.
05:36.14CIA-38- Ignore mark/unmark/reset messages from previous version.
05:36.29Apoco^lua local test = "Rwar %d"; test:format("1.2")
05:36.36Apocobleh
05:37.34CIA-3803neotron * r70410 10MagicComm/MagicComm/MagicComm.lua:
05:37.34CIA-38MagicComm:
05:37.34CIA-38- Fixed version check so it only prints each entry once and only prints it to the person requesting the version check.
05:37.34CIA-38- Added support for the refactored protocol for MagicMarker.
05:38.34MaelosNeoTron: we just started using MM tonight, feedback has been positive so far
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05:39.46CIA-3803scorpio0920 * r70411 10Omen/Modules/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
05:39.46CIA-38Omen:
05:39.46CIA-38- Update zhTW localization. (Need to decorate)
05:42.28NeoTronMaelos: cool. :) Hopefully the reworked version will be even better
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05:43.15NeoTronlua> true
05:43.16lua_botNeoTron: true
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05:44.26CIA-3803neotron * r70412 10MagicComm/MagicComm/MagicComm.lua: MagicComm: Leftover debug message.
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05:56.18ZhinjioGood evening, folks.
05:59.04Apocohellp Zhinjio
05:59.08Apocohello*
05:59.50MaelosIs there any way to make Grid "brighter"
06:00.05MaelosI know that's an odd question, it just seems dim no matter which texture I choose
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06:04.41sag_ich_nichtMaelos change the colors? :P
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06:05.24Zhinjioman ... quiet night in here
06:06.04OlisonI could do a /dance if you'd like that
06:06.19OlisonBut seeing that I'm a MALE night elf, that might not be the case...
06:06.23OlisonOr am i wrong?
06:06.54Zhinjioyou're not wrong. I won't be offended by it, but it wouldn't really roll my dice.
06:06.57Zhinjioso to speak.
06:07.03SnagoPrimer: Make a new macro and name it "arena"
06:07.19OlisonI completely get your point :)
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06:08.56CIA-3803neotron * r70413 10MagicDKP_Client/MagicDKP_Client.lua: MagicDKP_Client: Remove version check printer.
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06:15.32AntiarcEvening all.
06:15.38ZhinjioAntiarc: heya!
06:15.54MaelosAntiarc: howdy
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06:19.08Zhinjiolicks Ellipsis
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06:24.27Cheadswt.. a new wau version.. that's been a while =)
06:24.58durcynbecause higher version numbers are automatically better.
06:25.22durcynbecause higher version numbers are automatically better.
06:25.26durcynblah, wrong window
06:25.26Cheads...
06:25.36durcynscreen hates me sometimes =)
06:25.57Cheadshehe
06:28.02durcynAntiarc: any plans to add further callbacks to LibBars?
06:28.13Antiarcdurcyn: Tell me what you want and I'll be happy to think about it!
06:28.22durcynOnDragStop, specifically
06:28.25durcynor should i just SetScript it
06:28.29dansei want to know my nickserv password :/
06:28.32CIA-3803ananhaid * r70414 10Omen/ (Localization/zhCN.lua Modules/AOE/Localization/zhCN.lua):
06:28.32CIA-38Omen:
06:28.32CIA-38- zhCN update.
06:28.39AntiarcYou can setscript it, I don't set a script for ondragstart/ondragstop
06:28.46AntiarcYou may want the mouseup callback
06:29.16AntiarcAnchorClicked
06:29.18AntiarcThat's the one
06:29.29AntiarcI don't register ondragstart/ondragstop
06:29.33AntiarcJust mousedown/mouseup
06:29.37Antiarcand onclick
06:29.45durcynoh, hadn't thought of mouseup, that'll do, thanks
06:30.35AntiarcI'd recommend just HookScript'ing the OnMouseUp script for the frame's button, really.
06:30.44AntiarcHrm, maybe that's getting too involved.
06:31.04durcynall i really need is an uncomplicated way of saving the position after moving, tbh
06:31.23Antiarcyeah, I'll be providing some sort of callback to do that cleanly.
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06:34.23Zhinjioanyone feeling altruistic wants to play with my addon for a bit and try and break shit?
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06:35.44Ordogwtf how can something like club penguin sell for 700 million $ ?
06:39.04durcynZhinjio: is that some kind of geek pick up line?  also, what's its name :/
06:39.05SnagoWhat addon Zhinjio?
06:39.15ZhinjioSuicideKingsGeo
06:39.21Zhinjioits in branches/SKG currently
06:39.53CIA-3803ananhaid * r70415 10Omen/Localization/zhCN.lua:
06:39.53CIA-38Omen:
06:39.54CIA-38- zhCN update.
06:39.54ZhinjioI have a bundled version with embeds if you'd rather that
06:40.38Zhinjioreal testing can only be done in raids with loot drops happening, but at least you can play with lists and such
06:40.42Zhinjiomore if you have 2 accounts
06:40.48Zhinjiothat can run it at the same time
06:40.56Zhinjio(in the same guild)
06:41.19Ellipsislicks Zhinjio
06:41.30ZhinjioEllipsis: !!!
06:41.34Zhinjioer, ...
06:41.36Ellipsis:D
06:41.37Zhinjiohow're you?
06:41.52Ellipsisbored
06:41.57Ellipsiswe were internetsless all day :(
06:42.00Zhinjioand more than anything, I'd love people to pick apart the code and help me optomize.
06:42.05ZhinjiooptImize.
06:42.11Zhinjioyiiiikes.
06:42.17Zhinjiotorture.
06:42.47Ellipsissrsly
06:42.55Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
06:42.58Ellipsispurrs
06:42.59Zhinjioyou poor thing.
06:43.05Zhinjioheh
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06:43.31Ellipsiswhat's worse is it was Nocts' fault :P
06:43.42Nocts<3 She loved it
06:43.47Zhinjioyowza
06:44.07Zhinjiowas he, uh ... "playing with your ports"??
06:44.17Ellipsisyeah, but he overloaded them with too much data :(
06:44.19Ellipsis~spank Nocts
06:44.20purlACTION bends Nocts over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on Nocts's pasty white buttocks.
06:44.34ZhinjioI've heard that about him.
06:44.36Noctsis spanked, tatooed, and blowjobed.
06:44.55NoctsZhinjio: I need your input for the last statement, please.
06:45.01Antiarchttp://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=4680562
06:45.10Ordogthsi conversation definately doesnt belong into club penguin
06:45.10Fisker-hax
06:45.27ZhinjioNocts: from what I understand, you provide all the input anyone can ever need.
06:45.29Andunehmm.  I'm a Manufac user..  but also an Ackisrecipelist user.  Looks like the latter has finally integrated a button into the professions UI, which of course I don't used b/c of Manufac.
06:45.33Zhinjioand Ellipsis seems to think so too.
06:45.34Zhinjioheh
06:45.44NoctsI.. kthx?
06:45.47Anduneanyone else have this problem?  and is there any way to get the default UI to show even when you're using manufac?
06:46.02NoctsSYN's Ellipsis
06:46.11Fisker-ACKs Nocts
06:46.12Zhinjiodude, roll with it. I'm just playing around.
06:46.16Fisker-also
06:46.18Fisker-gtfo
06:46.20Fisker-:(
06:46.33Ellipsislicks Fisker-
06:46.39Fisker-hax
06:48.21Ellipsistastes like licorice
06:48.23Ellipsiso.O;
06:48.56Zhinjioretracts any previously potentially misconstrued statements about Ellipsis' ports and/or Nocts' involvement with them, in the past, current or future tense.
06:49.05EllipsisO.o;
06:49.08Zhinjiosheesh.
06:49.12Ellipsisbut the rumors are true
06:49.14Ellipsisall of them
06:49.30ZhinjioUnlike some, I'm not here to offend. So ... sorry about that.
06:49.41EllipsisI've had Nocts' data all over my drives
06:49.55durcynI thought the point of innuendo was subtlety :o
06:50.01Noctsrawr, and it with a little bit of convincing she took it all down the pipeline
06:50.16Ellipsisdurcyn: that's not what your mom said last night!
06:50.20Ellipsiswhile I WAS HAVING SEX WITH HER!
06:50.54Zhinjiogoes back to the little kids' table.
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06:51.19NoctsTHATS WHAT SHE SAID
06:51.27Ellipsis...no, fail.
06:51.34NoctsI know, getting used to it
06:51.41Noctslicks lua_bot
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07:08.32Zhinjio... to flicker and to fade ... on this, the longest day ...
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07:11.57CIA-3803ckknight * r70416 10LibGuildPositions-1.0/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
07:11.57CIA-38LibGuildPositions-1.0 - initial commit
07:11.57CIA-38This communicates your position with guild members as well as providing position information about guild members.
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07:29.11deloralaso... quick question^^ any good alternative to necb?
07:29.32deloralabeen living without good timers for too long now^^
07:30.04mykxare you talking about timers for everything or just your target/focus ?
07:30.14mykxclasstimer is pretty good for target/focus imo
07:30.44deloralawill give it a try^^
07:31.21Zyndromegot some massive font error with ClassTimer last time :S
07:31.32mykxreally? I have been using it for about 2 months now
07:32.45Zyndromeall of a sudden, I got this : http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/texterrorflood.jpg
07:33.06Zyndromeand it got spammed so hard I got the dialog about error-spam to disable addons & ignore :<
07:33.17mykxthats weird, did you get all the dependencies and stuff ?
07:34.28Zyndromeyeah
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07:35.09deloralawhuuuut WAU updated?
07:35.10CIA-3803seppyk * r70417 10HeadCount/HeadCountFrames.xml:
07:35.10CIA-38HeadCount:
07:35.10CIA-38- Revised to close on escape key.
07:35.52Zyndromerow 77 @ ClassTimer.lua : frame.timetext:SetText(timenum(endTime - currentTime))
07:36.18Zyndromemaybe, just maybe, it could be that I have timers disable or something, I just have names and bars
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07:39.26CIA-3803ckknight * r70418 10LibGuildPositions-1.0/LibGuildPositions-1.0.lua:
07:39.26CIA-38LibGuildPositions-1.0 - add an expire time for each guild member that lasts 2
07:39.26CIA-38minutes. After said 2 minutes are up and no new messages have arrived from the
07:39.26CIA-38guild member, it is assumed that the guildie reloadui'd without the lib enabled
07:39.26CIA-38or something similar.
07:39.29CIA-38- if standing in one place and not moving, send a single message every 90 seconds.
07:40.05Fisker-http://i27.tinypic.com/2i8w3df.jpg <-poor heavy
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07:43.43OlisonFisker-: what is that?
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07:49.29CIA-3803ckknight * r70419 10Cartographer/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
07:49.29CIA-38Cartographer - add support for LibGuildPositions-1.0. Sending positions along
07:49.29CIA-38the old comm will stop in one month. Sending requests along the old comm will
07:49.29CIA-38stop in two months, essentially ceasing the old comm prefix from use.
07:51.06Arrowmaster`LibGuildPositions-1.0 use any frameworks other than libstub?
07:52.24ckknightno, that was the point
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07:54.52ckknightI basically wanted Cartographer3 to have the same functionality, but without any dependencies, I made it with that in mind, and by upgrading Cart2 now, they'll be able to talk to each other
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08:03.21ckknightquestion, is the player always "raid" .. GetNumRaidMembers()?
08:07.42Fisker-but ckknight
08:07.46Fisker-people don't update their mods!
08:07.58CIA-3803orionshock * r70420 10GuildCraft/ (core.lua deDE-Locale.lua enUS-Locale.lua):
08:07.58CIA-38GuildCraft:
08:07.58CIA-38-add db version, force reset if it's too old or if your just now updating to this version, you'll need to resetup your share... sorry it had to be done.
08:08.14ckknightFisker-: enough will
08:09.21renchapckknight: can you update the guildmap addon to use your new lib ?
08:10.04Antiarcckknight: The player can be in any position in the raid
08:10.12ckknightAntiarc: okay
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08:10.36AntiarcYou'll have it iterate 1, GetNumRaidMembers() and perform a UnitIsUnit("player", "raid" .. i) to find the player
08:10.52AntiarcThat's also subject to frequent change :)
08:11.04ckknightrenchap: it's not my mod
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08:11.36ckknightrenchap: and I'm not sure whether it'd be proper to just add in support for the new lib or remove the old comm or what
08:11.39ckknightshrugs
08:11.54renchapi think add support for new lib, like in cart2
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08:12.26renchap!seen docbru
08:12.59ArrowmasterAntiarc is wrong
08:13.08Arrowmasteryou can use UnitInRaid("player")
08:13.17AntiarcOh, that returns their position?
08:13.22CheadsThe number of days until half the web links to Diablo3.com. But why???   -=*12*=-
08:13.22Antiarc~api UnitInRaid
08:13.23purlhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitInRaid
08:13.23Arrowmasteryeah but its off by 1 i think
08:13.32Arrowmasterand nobody ever updates the wowwiki page for it
08:14.42Arrowmasteri can never remember if its +1 or -1
08:14.51Arrowmasterso ive never updated the page
08:15.31Fisker-http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5974349555&sid=1&pageNo=1 <-epic btw
08:17.29sag_ich_nichthey Fisker-: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7041.msg206069#msg206069
08:17.46sag_ich_nichtbettr answer there for me, you've been using GridManaBars longer than me
08:19.36Fisker-no u
08:20.04Orionshockanyone on an non enUS or enGB client?
08:20.24Fisker-btw
08:21.31Fisker-you can make it smaller sag_ich_nicht
08:21.40Fisker-Frame->Advanced->Mana Bar
08:21.45Prof_Albertorionshock: i could switch do deDE
08:22.00Orionshock<PROTECTED>
08:22.07Orionshocki need to know what the return is from /dump GetSpellInfo(27971)
08:23.13sag_ich_nichtFisker-: i know but i want it BIGGER
08:23.18sag_ich_nichtwithout scaling
08:23.32sag_ich_nichtand it needs to be horizontal but on the right side
08:24.12Fisker-O_o
08:24.23Fisker-never saw any of that though
08:24.53sag_ich_nichthttp://loliserv.org/~afora/WoWScrnShot_112207_213300.jpg <--so i can reproduce this(NOTE THE SCREENSHOT IS FROM LAST NOVEMBER IF YOU TALK ABOUT ANYTHING BUT THE RAID FRAMES YOU ARE A RAGING MORON)
08:24.56mikmaFisker-: that's quite stupid, rolling that trinket for arena ^^ after all if you dodge, a warrior will get you for sure
08:25.45Stanzillasag_ich_nicht: hey! your interface sucks :P
08:25.54Orionshocksag_ich_nicht: what that ur a ret nub?
08:25.55AeyanYeah, it's cluttered.
08:25.57Prof_AlbertOrionshock: "Zweihandwaffe - Unb\195\164ndigkeit", "", "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_GreaterHeal", 0, false, 0, 5000, 0, 0
08:26.06TemOrionshock, that's "retardin"
08:26.08sag_ich_nichtOrionshock: !c EU Gul'dan Ruknor
08:26.21OrionshockProf_Albert: what is "Zweihandwaffe " ?
08:26.30AeyanTwo hand something
08:26.35Prof_Albert2-hand-weapon
08:27.02Orionshockhates on blizzard for being Homo
08:27.03sag_ich_nichtTem: i suggest you talk to nevcairiel. he told me to not insult people on this channel anymore, so i suggest you do the same or i'll start again.
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08:27.22Temsag_ich_nicht, Hey see that @ next to my name?
08:27.29Temit means I can do whatever the fuck I want
08:27.32sag_ich_nichtTem: hey, see that @ next to nevcairiel's name?
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08:27.38OrionshockProf_Albert:  i take it the rest says "Savagery" ?
08:27.43sag_ich_nichtTem: fuck you and die in hell
08:27.43sag_ich_nicht:)
08:27.47Tembye bye
08:28.25Prof_AlbertOrionshock I guess
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08:28.25Orionshockcuz in enUS we get  "Enchant 2H Weapon - Savagery" .. the string returns with "Enchant " at the begging ...
08:28.38exor674you know, I actually like the fixed width font
08:28.43exor674on the chat log
08:28.49ckknighttoo much anger
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08:29.18AeyanFixed width has it's uses, but it ain't easy on the eyes for me
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08:29.56Prof_AlbertOrionshock: "Enchant 2H Weapon - Savagery", "", "Interface\\Icons\\Spell_Holy_GreaterHeal", 0, false, 0, 5000, 0, 0
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08:30.06Prof_Albertis what I get when switching back to enUS
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08:30.25Orionshockya
08:30.50Orionshockpoint being that in the english clients we get a prefix but in most other's i've seen they don't
08:30.58Orionshock-.- </3 special handling
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08:33.34billihow do I get my new addon from the Outdated category to the Not Installed one in WAU? The toc interface version is 20400 and I can't see any other settings.
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08:33.59Orionshockbilli: how long ago did you update the toc?
08:34.32billicommitted the addon new yesterday and haven't changed it
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08:36.55Prof_Albertbilli: which addon is it?
08:37.15billiYikes
08:39.04Prof_Albertwhat do crossed out entries in WAU mean?
08:39.22Arrowmasteroutdated
08:39.33Arrowmasterive heard that feature of WAU is very broken right now
08:40.16Prof_Albertah, I see. it shows nearly every single addon outdated for me (incl Cartographer, Quartz, ZOMGBuffs)
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08:40.37theoddone33wow spriest pvp is kinda fun
08:40.43billinone of mine are crossed out...
08:40.46theoddone33I felt competitive in the 60-69 bracket even at 62
08:40.56Prof_Albertthat's all since the last update
08:41.01odtaye
08:41.11odtjust restarted WAU, it updated, and now all addons are crossed out
08:41.17billiah - i'm a version or two behind
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08:41.20odtor most
08:42.14Prof_AlbertI guess the check is done the other way round, so it crosses out all up-to-date addons installed
08:42.54CIA-3803ananhaid * r70421 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua:
08:42.54CIA-38BigWigs:
08:42.55CIA-38- zhCN Felmyst update.
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08:43.59CIA-3803scorpio0920 * r70422 10Mirror/Mirror.toc:
08:43.59CIA-38Mirror:
08:43.59CIA-38- Added Notes-zhTW.
08:44.17CIA-3803alar * r70423 10AlarLib/AlarLib-2.0/AlarLib-2.0.lua: AlarLib Hopefully fixed an intermittent bug that was preventing db from initializing when alarlib was embedded
08:44.56odtwhat's a good addon to move frames like durability, battle objectives etc
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08:45.42OrionshockNargiddley: ping
08:45.52mikmahttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/CrimsonStreak/warriortalents.jpg
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08:47.08CIA-3803ananhaid * r70424 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhCN.lua:
08:47.08CIA-38Recount:
08:47.08CIA-38- zhCN update.
08:49.00Orionshockanyone know how to manipulate the space in aceConfigDialogue just to the immediate left of the close button??
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08:55.48Elsia~seen antiarc
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08:56.13ElsiaAntiarc ping
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09:06.09CIA-3803digby * r70425 10Yikes/:
09:06.09CIA-38Yikes:
09:06.09CIA-38- Fixed svn:externals
09:06.13QuantumDeltasomeone updated wau? *pokes sylvanaar*
09:06.31CIA-3803orionshock * r70426 10GuildCraft/ (GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUI.lua core.lua):
09:06.31CIA-38GuildCraft:
09:06.31CIA-38-use 1 more up value, and start commenting out old methods so i can safely delete them later..
09:07.48CIA-3803ennuilg * r70427 10scorchio/ (14 files in 5 dirs):
09:07.48CIA-38scorchio:
09:07.48CIA-38- Upgraded to LibSharedMedia-3.0 - returns many more options for warning sounds, etc.
09:08.17ramozhow come i only have 1 bar available i EBB? i got all three sharedmedia libs
09:08.58Orionshockramoz: go install "SharedMedia" the addon
09:09.01Orionshocksee if that helps
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09:12.39ramozhm
09:15.24CIA-3803neotron * r70428 10MagicDKP/ (Config.lua MagicDKP.lua):
09:15.24CIA-38MagicDKP:
09:15.24CIA-38-Fix, hopefully, all issues with raid / zone not registering correctly.
09:15.24CIA-38- Save the zone per event rather than just having the per-raid.
09:16.19ramozbut i dont want 2mb of media loaded =(
09:16.52CIA-3803neotron * r70429 10/branches/MagicMarker/MagicMarker.lua: MagicMarker: Fixed issue with MM using the unit data (for deciding crowd control etc) from the normal instead of heroic instance.
09:17.45Arrowmasterit doesnt load until you access it
09:18.34ramozhm
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09:20.50Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubQrpAmG-Dw&feature=related wtf
09:22.15charonmorning
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09:23.24ThiefMasterthe font in the output window of the new WAU is horrible
09:24.19CIA-38037destiny * r70430 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: koKR Update
09:24.21Fisker-the "new" wau?
09:24.31ramozThiefMaster: just restart it :P
09:24.33ThiefMasterwell, the update
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09:24.37Fisker-HAX
09:24.47ThiefMasterlooks like the same
09:24.48Fisker-i has no update gotten :O
09:25.17ramozThiefMaster: restart it agai
09:25.18ramozn
09:25.28ramozFisker-: you're special
09:25.49ThiefMasterstill ugly. additionally it doesn't keep the order of the toolbar (i like the filter stuff on the right like it was in the last version ;o)
09:25.55Fisker-just like your mother ramoz
09:25.56Fisker-hoho
09:26.03ThiefMasterhttp://www.planetcoding-server.net/misc/wau-ugly.png
09:26.09theoddone33where are decent svn docs
09:26.10ThiefMasterprobably some kind of font smoothing
09:26.11theoddone33that tell me things like
09:26.18theoddone33how to get a repository
09:27.54charontheoddone33: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/
09:28.28theoddone33it lies to me
09:28.32theoddone33so frustrating
09:29.30CIA-3803ckknight * r70431 10LibGuildPositions-1.0/LibGuildPositions-1.0.lua: LibGuildPositions-1.0 - fix ChatThrottleLib support
09:30.08charon"it lies to me" is clearly a very specific issue that most people in here can help with :P
09:30.25CIA-3803ennuilg * r70432 10scorchio/libs/LibSharedMedia-3.0/:
09:30.25CIA-38scorchio:
09:30.25CIA-38- Shouldn't be version controlled.
09:30.30theoddone33I don't really want to rant about it in here, because while people here know how to use svn, it's not what this channel is about
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09:32.41ckknightokay, Cartographer3 now shows group members (party and raid) as well as guild members
09:33.21Prof_Albertis the LibGuildPositions now in the externals?
09:33.47ckknightCartographer3 is a git project...
09:34.12theoddone33git is the new thing?
09:34.16ckknightsure is
09:34.36theoddone33I've heard it's nice, but the fact that Linus is a) a dick and b) one of the primary authors has put me off a little
09:35.23ckknightyes, and just because the author is a jerk sometimes makes it so you should use an inferior product
09:35.24ckknight:-P
09:35.37ckknighthe's a dick sometimes, no doubt. git's still very nice.
09:35.49QuantumDeltahmm
09:36.01kadrahilso
09:36.07QuantumDeltaone of my addons is chucking a capital C into chat if I zone into an instance oO
09:36.08ckknightin any event, test Cartographer3: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/5e6b5de00dd4dbc65bd7b8d7dfc017ec0d42ca80.tar.gz
09:36.09kadrahilcan i solo DM or strat at 70 on my hunter
09:36.26sacarascif you can't you suck
09:36.28Elsiawhat's different with cartographer 3 vs previously?
09:36.31ckknightQuantumDelta: that was LibGuildPositions-1.0, I fixed it. Sorry
09:36.32kadrahilsacarasc: ahha
09:36.37theoddone33I'm big on perforce, really
09:36.41kadrahili never went to them a year ago when i was leveling
09:36.44QuantumDeltano probs ckk <3
09:36.52ckknightElsia: Cartographer2 augments the map, Cartographer3 replaces it, works like google maps
09:36.54kadrahili seriously never ran anything higher than SM
09:37.01Elsiaah I see
09:37.04ElsiaI'll give it a look
09:37.10ckknightgreat
09:37.14ckknightany feedback is useful
09:37.14Polarinackknight: WTB instance maps!
09:37.20ckknightsoon, Polarina
09:37.33Polarinackknight: *cheers*
09:37.36ckknightI got 3rd-party addon support working today, as well as group members and guild members
09:37.45ckknightthose are some pretty big achievements
09:37.48Polarinais off while eating.
09:38.22ckknightamong other things
09:38.38ckknightokay, it's about 4:38 AM. I should go home and get some rest
09:38.43ckknightI need to go apartment hunting tomorrow
09:38.48ckknightwell, today
09:40.05MaelosNeoTron: you around?
09:40.10CIA-3803Shot * r70433 10DoIKnowYou/DoIKnowYou.lua:
09:40.10CIA-38DoIKnowYou:
09:40.10CIA-38- another nil check fix
09:40.10QuantumDeltaYou should ;P!
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09:41.22ThiefMasteranyone has a screenshot of cart3?
09:41.31Polarinackknight: I'll help you with code cleanup later on. :)
09:41.54Ellipsisgiggles
09:42.02Elsiackknight: not seeing a cartographer 3.0 in my addon list
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09:43.16Fisker-holy shit ckknight
09:43.24Fisker-Ellipsis rename the folder to Cartographer3
09:43.33Ellipsis~lart Fisker-'s tab key
09:43.33purlforces Fisker-'s tab key to use Outlook Express
09:43.39starlonhmm is there DogTag 3.0 docs?
09:43.39Elsiak
09:43.56Ellipsisstarlon: /dog
09:44.11Fisker-oh u Ellipsis
09:44.19Ellipsisno u Fisker-
09:44.23Fisker-YES ME Ellipsis
09:44.31EllipsisYES Fisker- YES
09:44.42Fisker-Cartographer 3 is sick :O
09:44.50starlonEllipsis: Ah thanks much :)
09:45.50Fisker-man
09:45.54Fisker-i can scroll around this map all day
09:46.06Orionshockckknight: now that is fking awesome
09:46.21Orionshockyeha, google maps FTW
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09:46.59renchapscreenshot ?
09:47.22Ellipsisscreenshots don't do it justice
09:47.28Ellipsisa video maybe
09:47.33Orionshock^^
09:47.38renchapi am too lazy to test it
09:47.40Elsiahm on carto3, if player centered shouldn't zoom be locked to player? Now you still gotta watch were your mouse cursor is which is somewhat unintuitive, at least of the first few tries
09:47.52starlonI haven't seen carto3 in a while. Someone have a current link?
09:47.59Ellipsisscroll up
09:48.21starlongot it
09:48.36CIA-3803hegarol * r70434 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua:
09:48.36CIA-38AtlasLoot_BCInstances:
09:48.36CIA-38- typo fixed
09:48.46ElsiaI'm not convinced I want the constant zooming but it's cool
09:48.56Orionshockonly thing i see that i can recommend ckknight  is when zoom'ed in enough to show the texture map for the zone for all zones visable... but meh
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09:50.23Orionshock& who ever wanted instance maps for cart3, they are there for outdoor instances IE ZG
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09:51.38Orionshockoh man, no map for the missing island south of tanaris
09:52.30theoddone33ahh the good old days
09:52.40kadrahil<PROTECTED>
09:52.41theoddone33making a level 1 priest and exploring the ocean
09:52.47kadrahilnevermind
09:52.54theoddone33running from the level 40-ish guys on that island
09:53.01theoddone33then finding the edge of the world
09:53.12kadrahil:O
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09:54.41Orionshockok... ckknight_ all u need now is routes and gathermate to support the whole "zoom" effect and it becomes one bad ass combination.
09:54.52ckknight_yea, I did that today.
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09:55.19Orionshockit's one fking awesome effect
09:55.30ckknightI support TomTom, GatherMate, Gatherer, Routes, and a yet-unreleased QuestHelper (smariot had to change one thing)
09:55.53ckknightwell, those are the ones I tested, at least
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09:57.35Snago~seen Seppyk
09:57.37purli haven't seen 'seppyk', Snago
09:58.18Prof_Albertckknight: I think cartographer3 needs an option to automatically switch to the current Player-position
09:58.33Prof_Albertah wait
09:58.35ckknightProf_Albert: it's in the bottom-right corner, the "P" button
09:58.52ckknight(I'll make those images later, and add tooltips explaining what they do)
09:58.55Prof_Albertckknight: got it. but it's slow a slow imho
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09:59.15ckknightwell, it takes 2 seconds to reach your guy, once it's there, it locks in place
09:59.16Prof_Alberta bit slow i mean
09:59.33ckknightif you want to change the speed, open up Constants.lua
09:59.35ckknight:-P
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10:00.05Prof_AlbertI went from the Isle of Quel'Danas to shattrath.
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10:00.49ckknightk...
10:01.00ckknightoh, portal?
10:01.02ckknighthrm
10:01.10Prof_Albertno, with the map
10:01.14ckknightoh, okay
10:01.25ckknightit should've just taken two seconds
10:01.32ckknightI believe
10:01.51Prof_Alberton max zoom it takes about 5 seconds until the screen locks
10:02.01Pkekyo|g'morning all
10:03.33ckknighthrm...
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10:03.43ckknightProf_Albert: were you moving the whole time or standing still?
10:04.22Prof_Albertckknight: I'm standing still in Shattrath City. I zoomed the map on maxdetail in the Isle of Quel'danas an then I clicked the "P"-button
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10:07.54Prof_Albertckknight: is it possible to make the animation skippable in some options (so it just jumps to my position instantly)
10:08.29ckknightI don't think that's a good idea, it looks jagged that way
10:09.07ckknightI have no idea why you're getting such long times, seeing as it takes exactly 2 seconds for me...
10:10.01Prof_Alberthmm... I'll try with less other addons
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10:10.08kadrahilalternate universe imo
10:10.41sacarascwhat are the deps for cart3?
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10:10.54Prof_Albertoptional: LibGuildPositions
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10:15.01Prof_Albertckknight: maybe a crossfade to the current position would look neat (just as an option, and the animation remains the default)
10:15.09kadrahiluh
10:15.21kadrahilis it possible to manipulate the aura on the ground around your target now?
10:15.24ckknightProf_Albert: that's pretty much impossible given the system
10:15.26kadrahilhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_041508_203300.jpg
10:15.33Prof_Albertckknight: ah ok
10:15.35kadrahilin that ^
10:15.44kadrahil(not mine)
10:17.34[TUE]Natherulhrmm i cant open the omen config screen anymore, is there a problem with waterfall? i need to set all up atm with / commands
10:20.16XinhuanESC --> Interface Options --> Omen ?
10:20.32Xinhuanor simply /omen config
10:20.37[TUE]Natherulonly got inflight and bongos there
10:20.55Xinhuansounds like you have a broken install
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10:29.57GagorianIs GetItemInfo available right away?
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10:31.48aurigenahi
10:31.52aurigenaoO
10:31.53charon[TUE]Natherul: any errors in bugsack or the like? i committed some changes last night that included config options changes, perhaps i broke something
10:32.04charonthough i'd be rather surprised after all the testing :-\
10:32.28aurigenahas anybody else been posting "c" into guildchat?
10:33.20aurigenasince last update ive been posting "C" into my guildchat every 10 seconds
10:33.26aurigenamy whole guild ignores me o_O
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10:34.17charon[TUE]Natherul: i've just checked, it works for me. you'll have to provide some more info
10:34.36charonoh, what locale do you use?
10:34.40Xinhuan"C" ?
10:34.44Xinhuanlike a single letter?
10:36.24aurigenayes
10:36.31aurigenaenglish
10:36.46aurigena12:37:48 [G] <70:Therru:1>: C
10:36.52aurigenaits been like that for hours now xD
10:36.55aurigenaevery 10 seconds
10:37.06aurigenaexactly every 10 seconds
10:37.21charondisable addons until it stops?
10:37.31Xinhuan^
10:37.50charonone at a time, or half of them each time for extra O(log n) cleverness
10:37.59charon(someone should write an ACP plugin that automates the bisection)
10:38.08Xinhuanhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12941.0;topicseen
10:38.17Xinhuanseems like we have the problem narroweds down
10:38.33Xinhuango turn off cartographer_guildpositions maybe, not sure if it uses that
10:38.51aurigenaxD
10:38.56aurigenawell
10:39.07aurigenai dont have a problem with that
10:39.22aurigenaso
10:39.25Gagoriankicks CIA-38
10:39.27Xinhuansounds like the dumbest bug ever
10:40.13charonaurigena: when did you update? the diffs look like ckk may have fixed this about an hour ago
10:40.24nevcairielcharon: do you know if Antiarc read our discussions regarding the npc module yesterday?
10:40.33charonnevcairiel: no idea
10:40.35aurigenahm oO about 2 hours ago
10:40.37Xinhuan^ no idea
10:40.39aurigenaill update right away
10:40.54charon~seen antiarc
10:40.55purlantiarc is currently on #wowuidev (22h 59m 42s) #wowace (22h 59m 42s) #curseforge (22h 59m 42s). Has said a total of 32 messages. Is idling for 2h 27m 33s, last said: '~api UnitInRaid'.
10:40.55nevcairielmaybe i should start a rewrite in branches =P
10:40.55Xinhuansince neither of us have any idea, we'll all assume he doesn't read/know about it yet :D
10:41.03charonhe clearly hasn't been active since
10:41.18Xinhuanhe must be out drunk on a friday night
10:41.22nevcairielhe has, 2h idle time :P
10:41.32charonhmm
10:41.34charon~fail charon
10:41.35purlcharon: FAIL!
10:41.41charonpurl, thanks
10:41.41purlcharon: no problem
10:41.48nevcairiellol
10:41.53Xinhuanpurl, good job
10:41.53purlGood job, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry!
10:43.39aurigenathanks guys
10:43.45aurigenahelped .D
10:43.46aurigena:D
10:44.30Polarinackknight: Cartographer3/Cartographer.lua:1261: attempt to index local 'tex' (a userdata value)
10:44.44nevcairieluserdata is serious business!
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10:45.29charoni think i know what's wrong with omen
10:45.45charonthe config stuff goes down in flames if there's a missing translation
10:45.52nevcairielheh
10:45.58nevcairieluses enGB
10:46.13charonand since i patched in new localization strings last night, and deDE and frFR (among others) have not been updated since, they're bound to see problems
10:46.15charon3
10:46.37nevcairielbut if the translation layout is setup correctly, it should just fallback to english
10:46.44nevcairielchecks the file
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10:47.05nevcairieloh silly Antiarc
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10:47.35nevcairielor hm
10:47.36Fisker-oh u
10:47.38charoncan you patch that? in the meantime i'll write the deDE strings, i don't really have a good excuse for not translating into my native language :P
10:48.13nevcairielI never translate stuff to deDE because it always sounds so strange
10:48.44Prof_Albertsame here ;)
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10:50.10nevcairielbut i dont see a error in the translation code, i looked at the wrong file first
10:50.51charonthe worst part about translating omen is that people do not distinguish between aggro and threat in german
10:51.05charonit's all aggro. so i usually say "bedrohung" for threat which again sounds extremely strange
10:51.29nevcairielif you have too much aggro you pull aggro :P
10:52.08charonrecursive definition is recursive!
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10:52.24nevcairielbut i dont think the missing translations caused it to break
10:52.29Fisker-your mother is recursive
10:52.35nevcairielunless someone can prove that with some bug messages
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10:53.04charonno idea. it did break when enUS strings were missing but that kinda makes sense
10:53.31charonpunches CIA-38
10:55.02[TUE]Natherulsorry did not see the question about bugsack, was boosting a friend, well i dont got bugsack and i've had these problems for a while so i though it would be waterfall as that has not been updated for a while has it?
10:55.20nevcairielwaterfall is nolonger used at all
10:55.39[TUE]Natheruldoes not waterfall make the config window anymore then?
10:55.43charon[TUE]Natherul: en{GB,US} locale or something different?
10:55.43nevcairielnope
10:55.43ZhinjioG'morning.
10:55.48nevcairielthats now AceGUI-3.0
10:56.02[TUE]NatherulenGB as im in sweden here
10:56.32charonthen you'll have to provide an error message or something i'm afraid, it works fine on my enGB
10:57.13[TUE]Natherulok i will relog to make the error appear again as when i got it once he wont let me input /omen config
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10:59.08Polarinacharon: The World of Warcraft client doesn't have a locale for enGB.
10:59.34nevcairielthe european english client is called enGB
10:59.45nevcairielobvioulsy the locale is the same
10:59.47nevcairielas enUS
10:59.48Polarinanevcairiel: But doesn't have a locale for it.
10:59.49[TUE]NatherulOmen.lua:268:attempts to call mathod SetDefaultSize a nil value
11:00.06phyberis 'yleaf' the SVN alias of someone in here or is it another tard who edits stuff on the SVN without being around to be questioned about it?
11:00.23nevcairielnever heard of the name, what did he edit?
11:00.27kilroggckknight: is there still debug code in LibGuildPositions ?
11:00.37nevcairiel[TUE]Natherul: that sounds like you have a really ancient version of Ace3 around
11:00.45nevcairiel[TUE]Natherul: i suggest a full update
11:00.57phybernevcairiel: he edited one of my addons "ManaPerc" to fix something, except I believe the fix was unnecessary and it was also a broken fix.
11:01.09phyberif (not cost) or (not ptype) then--If the link is not a spell then return end
11:01.09[TUE]Natheruli will do that and see but i update at least once a day with update all installed addons in WAU
11:01.19phyberhe added that in a function that's only called in an OnTooltipSetSpell
11:01.39phyberhow can a tooltip in OnTooltipSetSpell not be a spell?
11:02.07phyber(those are "" for things like attack, not nil)
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11:02.26Shotwhy do all but 8 out of my 54 addons in wowaceupdater have a strike through them?
11:02.40nevcairielShot: not updated for 2.4
11:02.51Shoto.o
11:02.59nevcairielthey might still work perfectly fine, however
11:03.08nevcairieljust that the author didnt tag them as "works with 2.4"
11:03.30charoni think sylv said something about that detection being broken last night
11:03.49nevcairielno idea
11:03.58nevcairielthat new netherpanel updater should add support for WoWI and Curse
11:04.00nevcairielor something
11:05.12vrakthat strike through is rather annoying
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11:07.16Kuja^nevcairiel: netherpanel updater?
11:07.39nevcairielhttp://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10473.0
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11:07.59charonnevcairiel: i think there may be a problem with externals loading and aceconfig
11:08.12nevcairielwhats that?
11:08.19charonomen/embeds.xml has <Include file="Libs\AceConfig-3.0\AceConfig-3.0.xml"/>
11:08.33charonwhich in turn uses <Include file="AceConfigDialog-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0.xml"/>
11:08.48charon... oh nm i'm dreaming again
11:08.51nevcairieli tested Omen with embeded libs
11:08.53nevcairielworked fine for me
11:08.54Xinhuanindeed u are
11:09.02Xinhuana file shouldn't even include itself ;p
11:09.19Xinhuanbut that's 2 different folders
11:09.43KemayoAny idea why I might be unable to enter anything into a chatbox?
11:09.58Xinhuanbroken addon (obviously) ;p
11:10.12KemayoWell, yeah.
11:12.52Zeksieyou can fix the strikethrough. need to find the user.config (xml format file) and edit the LastTOCValue entry.
11:13.11Fisker-hawt nevcairiel
11:13.12Fisker-HAWT
11:15.46Fisker-yay
11:15.51Fisker-my addons are 830% up to date
11:16.00kadrahil830%
11:16.01kadrahil..
11:16.03kadrahilpro fisker
11:17.29Fisker-don't call me a pro
11:17.39kadrahilnub fisker
11:17.46Fisker-don't call me nub
11:17.54kadrahil:(
11:17.59kadrahilHAIL FISKER
11:18.46Fisker-yeah
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11:19.21Fisker-is it possible to make a unequip all macro? :o
11:19.33kadrahiljust use wardrobe
11:19.45kadrahilor closetgnome
11:19.53Fisker-no
11:19.57kadrahilynut
11:20.00Fisker-ithat's the whole point
11:20.04kadrahiloh
11:20.07Fisker-i don't want to use an addon just to unequip my gear
11:21.15kadrahiloh
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11:22.03ChompersFisker-! slash hugz
11:22.33Matrix110|huh?
11:22.37Matrix110|who Updated WAU?
11:22.45kadrahilfisker's mom lul
11:23.17kadrahilRAGE FULL
11:23.19kadrahilCOMMENCE KILLING
11:24.13Fisker-fuck you
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11:25.47kadrahil:(
11:25.49kadrahilFisker-: ilu
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11:27.24ChompersFisker-: closetgnome
11:27.28Chompersthen you can swap gear too
11:27.37kadrahillol chompers
11:27.42kadrahilthat's what i said :(
11:27.57Chompersoh sorry i wasnt listening :<
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11:28.37kadrahili make warrior to be big tauren abrams battle tank somedeay
11:28.42kadrahillolol
11:28.47Fisker-I SAID FUCK YOU CHOMPERS
11:28.48Fisker-RAWR
11:28.52mikmahttp://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/165196/
11:28.58Chompersno you Fisker-
11:29.06Chompersin YOUR butt
11:29.16kadrahilhey check it out
11:29.22kadrahili'm in mulgore on this stupid sharing the land quest
11:29.29kadrahiland i haven't died 8 times yet
11:30.01kadrahilthe palemanes pat around and i always used to die :X
11:31.39kadrahiluh
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11:31.58kadrahilso i'm sitting here questing, and all of a sudden the game lags and i bug out and have to kill wow and restart it
11:32.13kadrahiltried to log back in and it tells me a character with that name already exists >.>
11:32.43Honkjust wait
11:32.44Honk*sigh*
11:33.50kadrahili'm not usually this trollish, sorry :(
11:34.01kadrahilHAHA
11:34.16kadrahiland wouldn't you know it, i logged back in dead as soon as i said i hadn't died yet
11:36.24Zhinjio... Welcome .... to the .... tragic kingdom ....
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11:37.56kadrahilsince i made that statement about not dying yet
11:37.58kadrahili've died twice
11:38.04kadrahil.........
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11:38.54Kalrothl2p!
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11:42.11zaplhmm some wierd addon constantly outputs a "C" to the guidchat
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11:46.59Aiiane_That's the cookie monster
11:47.39kilrogghaving the same problem ... perhaps LibGuildPositions ?
11:48.08nuoHepupdate
11:49.55nevcairielyeah update LibGuildPositions
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11:54.27kadrahili need to like
11:54.32kadrahiluninstall wowequip and atlasloot >.>
11:54.50kadrahili spend too much time oogling over gear when i'm levelling alts heh
11:55.24kadrahilblames Xinhuan
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12:07.50kilroggi wonder if there is a "draw icons on WorldMap" library ... so far all addons seem to do it by themselves ...
12:08.29nevcairielbecause its so damn simple
12:08.33benAddons need to stop drawing mining nodes on top of my party members :(
12:08.35Ellipsiswhy would you need a lib for that?
12:08.50benEllipsis: So it is done in a unified way that can be configured by the user in a single place?
12:09.00Ellipsisbut...
12:09.03Ellipsisfacepalms
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12:09.09benie. scaling, transparency, what to do with icons that approach to border of the map
12:09.17nevcairielI dont know of a library which controls its own behaviour
12:09.22Zeksiethe point being, how many seperate mods do you have that draw stuff on map.
12:09.25Ellipsislibraries don't HAVE settings
12:09.25nevcairielgenerally addons using that library do that
12:09.41Ellipsisthe library itself can't store any saved variables
12:09.43benMake another addon as a frontend to those settings then
12:09.47Ellipsisso you can't configure it lib-wide
12:09.52benEllipsis: Why not?
12:09.56Ellipsisthen what happens if that addon isn't present
12:10.03Ellipsisbecause embedded libs don't have tocs and thus don't have SVs
12:10.38benBy that logic, embedded libs cannot have code because they do not have tocs and cannot list files to load
12:10.43Ellipsis...no
12:10.45Ellipsisyou fail
12:10.50benYour logic fails
12:10.52Ellipsisno
12:10.56kilroggheyhey ... i was just asking ... my thought was not to write the code every again single time ... nothing like fancy settings and/or saving ... although i thought of a "zone changed, give pins" style callback
12:11.03Vangualdo you need to be logged in to gitorious to get links to snapshots?
12:11.06Ellipsislibs use xml (or just a single lua file) to load their code
12:11.08nevcairielben: you can load code files without .tocs! :)
12:11.17kilroggs/every again/again every/
12:11.27bennevcairiel: Not without being loaded in the first place
12:11.30ZeksieEnchant IDs. Anyone know of a list of these?
12:11.34Ellipsisomg...
12:11.37EllipsisI can't argue with people like this
12:11.44Elsiaone can provide shared data though if one wants, see mobhealth as example, and one certainly could have shared settings for stuff like that
12:12.04Ellipsismobhealth can't store data across sessions unless run disembedded.
12:12.04Elsiabut I understand that we very rarely see it
12:12.09nevcairielyeah but MobHealth is no library
12:12.12nevcairielits a addon
12:12.12benAlso even if there is not a shared configuration, the library could provide an instantiable configuration interface for all addons to use
12:12.24Elsiaben never insisted on the library thing if I heard him correctly
12:12.35Ellipsisben: forcing all addons that may have wildly different functions to use the same config method = bad
12:12.47benI do not insist on it but I see it as a potentially useful thing
12:12.48Zhinjiohugs Ellipsis
12:13.03Ellipsishides in Zhinjio's arms
12:13.04benEllipsis: offering an easy way to have default config methods for all addons = good
12:13.05Ellipsismake it stop
12:13.15Ellipsisben: offering and forcing are two different things
12:13.25benYeah. You brought up forcing.
12:13.31Ellipsisyour lib wouldn't merely offer another way to configure something
12:13.47Ellipsisif the addon used your lib to place map icons, it would HAVE to go through your lib for its config, would it not?
12:13.54benNo
12:14.00Ellipsissince you say the lib is supposed to control/unify all icon settings
12:14.01benStop telling me how to design my lib that I am not even writing
12:14.11Ellipsisyou said that's how you'd design it....
12:14.14benNo
12:14.25benLook if you are not willing to put any thought into this, do not even bother
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12:14.30kilrogghave i started that ? i'm terribly sorry ...
12:14.35Ellipsis[7:08:29 am] <ben> Ellipsis: So it is done in a unified way that can be configured by the user in a single place?      [7:08:48 am] <ben> ie. scaling, transparency, what to do with icons that approach to border of the map
12:14.39Zhinjioshould I make the bad man go away?
12:14.41Zhinjiogrins.
12:14.59Elsiathat#s perfectly possible ellipsis, you can have global config and local override
12:15.21Elsiahe never said that he wanted to force everybody to accept global settings, just the option to do that
12:15.23Ellipsisben: I am putting thought into this; you're obviously not putting the time into LEARNING how addons work before arguing about it
12:15.44Elsiageez
12:15.45kilroggbtw. ... nevcairiel ... got any plans to integrate guild member positions into Mapster ? if not i'll write some sort of mapster_guildpositions addon
12:15.47nevcairielConfigs in librarys = bad .. libs can be framework-agnostic and all, configs can most likely not, that breaks all the stuff we work for here :)
12:16.00Elsiahe never said it had to be a library...
12:16.05Elsiawhy the dogma?`
12:16.05charonhands out free popcorn
12:16.34Zhinjiommm, popcorn
12:16.35ElsiaI don't understand why people argue against a position that noone even holds
12:16.45nevcairielElsia: its a "addon" that offers a API to other addons without a real use on its own = my definition of a library
12:17.12Elsiabut ben didn't ask for a definition of a library, he asked for a global config for a common function by many addons
12:17.12Ellipsisthe original question did use the word library
12:17.27ZhinjioElsia: usually through significant ignorance.
12:17.35Elsiahe said he didn't insist on it being a library, so why are you mincing that word?
12:18.02Ellipsisif it's not an embeddable library then all addons which use it would have it as a required dependency
12:18.06Ellipsiswhich people here are afraid of
12:18.08Ellipsisso that would never happen.
12:18.20Elsiawell that's a better answer I think
12:18.43Elsiait's possible but there is a fear about aspects that are needed to do it, so it doesn't happen with some folks around here is the frank answer to bens question
12:18.49nevcairielAnything that just provides a certain functionality and a API to access that, but does not do anything on its own is a library in my book, now if you make it a embeded library or a "standalone addon" .. go nuts =P
12:20.15EllipsisElsia: that's not the answer to ben's question, that's the answer to your "why are we assuming a library" question
12:20.47Elsiaben asked for global config for minimap icons if I understood correctly, maybe I got that wrong
12:20.56nevcairielAnyway, the initial idea was, in fact, a library to draw pins on the worldmap
12:21.11Ellipsishis question is why a lib is not the right way to present configuration options, and the answers given have been: no SVs, difficult to remain framework agnostic, and goes against standard practice
12:21.15benI said that being able to globally configure stuff would be a possible advantage of a possible minimap icon drawing library
12:21.32Elsiahmm in understand now
12:21.38benI am not particularly interested about the perceived disadvantages to be honest
12:21.55Ellipsisben: you are confusing "it uses a library" with "it's centrally configured"
12:22.03Ellipsiswhich are actually mutually exclusive in most cases
12:22.18charoni think the real answer is: map mod authors don't really design for using several of them at the same time, and so don't care. want it anyway? write a patch!
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12:22.24charonducks and hides.
12:22.24Elsiait's a semantic discussion about what library means... ben means it in terms of "shared code", while nev and ellipsis have the specific way toc-free code works as libs in mind.
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12:22.31Ellipsislibraries are there for code reuse, not for configuration centralization
12:22.33Fisker-slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout
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12:23.03bencharon: I do not want it. See above.
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12:23.41Ellipsischaron has a point too; in the past, addons designed to allow the addition of map icons expose their API and expect other addons to go through that API to add more icons
12:24.01Ellipsiswhich allows central configuration, but uses a required dependency in place of an embeddable library
12:24.13Elsiathat's a possible way of doing it
12:24.24nevcairielkilrogg: to your question, i'll probably not integrate it into the Mapster core, but most likely write a simple addon myself (not even using Mapster as a dependancy), GuildMapster or something :D
12:24.47benPersonally I find that required dependencies together with a sensible dependency manager are the way to go
12:24.55Industrial^
12:24.58benEmbedded libraries are getting on everyone's nerves anyway
12:25.04Ellipsispersonally I think embedded libs need to be buried and forgotten
12:25.12Ellipsisbut my opinion is not popular
12:25.21Industriallicks Ellipsis
12:25.25Orionshockembedded libs have their uses...
12:25.25Industrialits popular with me
12:25.32Ellipsissteals Industrial's tongue
12:25.32nevcairielactually, if i distribute a addon on WoWI, i dont want to have 20 folders in it and explaining everyone why they need those
12:25.34EllipsisHA!
12:25.36nevcairieljust one folder
12:25.42nevcairieland all i need in that folder
12:25.52Ellipsisnevcairiel: you shouldn't; you should only have your addon in the wowi release
12:25.56IndustrialEllipsis: gih he hy honhue hack!
12:26.04Ellipsisunless you're distributing a UI compilation
12:26.06nevcairielEllipsis: so people need to go hunt for the deps?
12:26.08EllipsisIndustrial: nevar
12:26.13nevcairielEllipsis: thats even worse
12:26.13Hakkerbasically the way libs are embedded is wrong
12:26.18Ellipsisnevcairiel: wowi and similar should make it EASY for users to find them
12:26.20Industrialchases Ellipsis
12:26.22Ellipsisnot make them "hunt"
12:26.35nevcairielwe had that depedancy hunting back in the day
12:26.43nevcairielwhen everyoen write a simple lib that wasnt embeded
12:26.43EllipsisI blame the distribution method for that
12:26.56nevcairieland you had to scan curse etc for those
12:26.59nevcairielthat was HELL
12:27.00Hakkerlibs are fine but now you get like 20x the same libs.... yet it could have been dones with something like a libs folder and dump all the libs in there
12:27.14Ellipsisit really is the release site's responsibility to link related content together so that users can find what they need efficiently
12:27.19benwowi should parse my toc file and provide a "download with dependencies" button that provides a zip file that contains my addon zip files and the addon zip files of all dependencies that are also on wowi
12:27.21Ellipsisit's a distribution problem, not a development one.
12:27.23Elsiaeven just disembedded packaging ala WAU works though, and the directory argument is a tradeoff. we give up the ability to store data with libs for not having additional directories in the addon folder.
12:28.09Industrialflops out his "too many addons means too long loading time" argument
12:28.23Industrialbesides that imho theres not really anything wrong with embedded libs
12:28.38Industrialjust leave it and dont touch it and it will Work(tm)
12:28.41ElsiaI find extra directories the lesser restriction/evil tbh
12:28.50EllipsisIndustrial: you can have your tongue back if you promise to use it nicely
12:28.54Hakker.:14·27·24:. «Ellipsis» it's a distribution problem, not a development one. <-- requiered dependancies aren't either yet that's what started the ace project to begin with
12:29.12EllipsisHakker: you obviously have no idea what you're talking about, so I'm not even going to bother trying to respond to you
12:29.28Industrialtakes his tongue back
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12:29.42Ellipsislooks expectantly at Industrial
12:29.53kilroggpoints out that more or less addon directories is merely a matter of overview and esthetics
12:30.17benIndustrial: There is a measurable loading time difference between embedded and disembedded libraries?
12:30.34Ellipsisben: don't get him started, (this is for your own good as much as mine)
12:30.40Industrialben: I don't know exactly - its basi
12:30.42Fisker-i hate you Industrial
12:30.43Industrialfine ill shut up
12:30.52Ellipsisdon't make me gag you, Industrial
12:30.58Ellipsisyou won't like me when I'm angry!
12:31.21nevcairielMm Angry-Ellipsis
12:31.21benIndustrial: Write a wiki article about it <:D
12:31.23nevcairielgo for it!
12:31.33Industrialits basically the difference in running the code "do we have this library loaded yet? yes? okay drop it next file.. no? load!" for every library
12:31.48Industrialand yeah of you run around 200 addons it starts to matter
12:31.56Ellipsisunless your libs are of varying versions and happen to load older-first
12:31.57kilrogghasn't that been already sufficiently answered in http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Ace2_Memory_Concerns years ago ?
12:32.01Zhinjiolicks Ellipsis someplace nice.
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12:32.07Industrialbut no if you run -75 then it doesnt matter jack shiat
12:32.08Ellipsisthen you can have up to N upgrades for N addons
12:32.09benBut ace has to do that as much as WoW, no?
12:32.10Ellipsisper lib
12:32.19Orionshockben: i think the loading time was <20 seconds or so...
12:32.19ben$ ls wow/Interface/AddOns/ | wc -l
12:32.20ben382
12:32.21ben:|
12:32.23Industrialben: any embedded library
12:32.29Orionshocktwas a thread but don't know where now. :(
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12:32.40Ellipsisugh
12:33.01Ellipsisevery day I get just a little more tempted to write my "why the embedded libs system sucks and what should have been instead" rant
12:33.11benkilrogg: Memory concerns? I do not care about memories I want fast loading times
12:33.19Ellipsisand then that leads into my "why you people fail at standardizing addon configuration" rant
12:33.40Ellipsisand then eventually I end up at "why I hate the world and want to die" rant
12:33.47IndustrialEllipsis: Thats because we dont want to standardize.
12:33.47Ellipsiswhich gets the men in white coats to come give me the happy pills
12:33.51HakkerI say start with it
12:33.52Elsiaaww
12:34.01Elsia~comfort Ellipsis
12:34.01purlThere, there, Ellipsis.  It's OK.  I'm here for you.
12:34.14IndustrialEllipsis: at least, I don't. I just want to do my own stuff.
12:34.15Hakkernot necisarrily the last chapter
12:34.31EllipsisIndustrial: I disagree - ace2 options tables were a great concept, but poorly executed
12:34.42IndustrialEllipsis: and i never used them
12:34.51Orionshockstandards w/o money involved are opinions with a hot air balloon attached to them. Shoot at them enough and they go down.
12:34.58Industrialcept for idChat2 but i dropped it.
12:34.59Ellipsisallowing the same table to be used in various different config methods based on user preference and author's choices given the situation = win
12:35.43Industrialcustom configuration works better then shoehorning everything into a specific format.
12:36.26Ellipsisexactly.
12:36.46Industrialim fine with slash commands myself :p
12:36.46Ellipsischoosing dewdrop for fubar plugin config and waterfall for setting up baggins makes sense
12:37.19Ellipsisbut if a user can't get the hang of dewdrop menus (clumsy with the mouse or what have you), giving them niagara makes life easy
12:37.25Industrialnah I mean something totally not using AceOptions. e.g. MSBT
12:37.43Industrialworks fine
12:37.53Industrialand cogsbar with slash commands
12:37.54Industrialworks fine too
12:38.03EllipsisIndustrial: I honestly believe that if the ace options tables had been designed properly, you could implement very specifically designed GUIs like MSBT's without any trouble.
12:38.33Industrialthere is a standard now anyway, the blizzard options panel.
12:38.41Ellipsisthe problem with the table structure now is that dynamically generated configs get huge memory-wise
12:38.45IndustrialI haven't messed with it tho so I cant say how easy it is to work with
12:38.52Ellipsisbecause you're creating n tables containing n tables containing ...
12:39.15Ellipsisthat's a standard place to put them; that doesn't make it a standard behind the scenes
12:39.23Ellipsisit's only "standard" as far as the user's concerned
12:39.26Ellipsisand it's very, very limiting
12:40.37HjalteElsia: Someone asked yesterday if it was possible for the boss toggle to work in 5-man instances too.
12:40.52ElsiaHjalte: it works, but the boss has to be skull
12:41.27benI would quite like having a more or less standardised slash command alternative to the blizzard option panel
12:41.28HjalteElsia: That's the problem, I don't think all 5-man bosses are skulls.
12:41.40ThiefMasteryeah, no 5 man bosses are skulls at all
12:41.42benpreferably one not starting with /script or /run
12:41.52ElsiaHjalte: yeah but the concept of a "boss" is kinda tricky to determine
12:42.01benJust steal a list of bosses from wowwiki :|
12:42.10Elsiawe see a special name etc, the addon sees 2 level above, which is the same as Mount Hyjal trash
12:42.13Polarinatold her guild she knows of a cheat to increase your money. And convinced them by running the following command: /run local a = GetMoney function() return a() ^ 2 end
12:42.27HjalteElsia: Yeah, I was afraid it was that way.
12:42.49EllipsisPolarina: you missed a step
12:42.50HjalteElsia: (and that's why you need to make us able to save individual fights :P)
12:43.03PolarinaEllipsis: Which one?
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12:43.17Ellipsisthe one where you set GetMoney to point to your new function?
12:43.21ElsiaHjalte: improving all that is on my list... the fight storage thing will need a real overall, so far it's bandaides
12:43.30Elsiaoverhaul*
12:43.31PolarinaEllipsis: function GetMoney()
12:43.39Ellipsisthere you go
12:43.42Elsiawell some are good bandaides but still
12:44.05HjalteElsia: I'm looking forward to the improvements, unfortunately I didn't really raid yesterday, so I didn't have a chance to play with the boss toggle some more.
12:44.29PolarinaEllipsis: They still haven't complained about it not working. :P
12:44.41Elsiacurrent plan is to get lazy sync functioning as intended, then I can worry about other things
12:45.09Zynderpswww.shatteredminds.net/skit/classtimerspam.jpg & www.shatteredminds.net/skit/classtimererror.jpg :(
12:45.41Fisker-i want SetMoney() for irl
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12:46.06HjalteElsia: Oh yeah, about that. The other day on teron gorefiend, we were 7-8 people in the raid using Recount. However, when one of the other users reported the damage, my damage was a bit off. I thought that with lazysync, I was at least syncing my damage to him?
12:46.07Ellipsis/run Fisker-:SetMoney(-2000)
12:47.18Elsialazy sync only syncs people who have recount running, so other people will show discrepancies. and due to the bug with deleting you can also get discrepancies if people randomly delete their data, but I'm writing fixed code for that as we speak
12:48.34Orionshocki noticed the other day looking over the combat log that some GUID's where showing up all 0's for ... normal spells IE renew
12:48.38Orionshockthis normal?
12:48.41HjalteElsia: The guy who reported the damage was also running Recount. I'm not sure if his version was completely up to date, but it should be fairly recent. I don't know if he had deleted anything before the fight, but seeing as he's an old sw_stats user, that could be.
12:48.50EllipsisOrionshock: welcome to blizzard code?
12:49.13Orionshockyeah i expected as much, but wondering if anyone else was seeing this as "normal"
12:49.24Ellipsisyes, it's quite common
12:49.34Elsiadone loads of testing and lazy sync works fine if people don't delete so that's very likely it. anywho I'm coding that thing as said
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12:51.11kadrahilhey
12:51.19gix-does anyone know where i could get up-to-date spell affect data?
12:51.25kadrahili just installed the latest cartographer and i has an error now
12:51.47kadrahilin Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions/GuildPositions.lua:85: Library "LibGuildPositions-1.0" not found.
12:52.26Ordogkadrahil did you actually read what you pasted? :)
12:52.54kadrahilOrdog: it's before 10:00 on a saturday morning, i'm not responsible for what i type!
12:52.58kadrahilor say
12:53.00Hjaltekadrahil: You need to download the library it seems. Somehow it didn't get downloaded with Cartographer automatically.
12:53.07Industrialkadrahil: haha
12:53.12kadrahil:)
12:53.25kadrahilhmm
12:54.09baer_help! my grid is empty!
12:54.14baer_i have no unitframes.
12:54.16kadrahil:O
12:54.22kadrahilsoothes baer_
12:54.57kadrahilHjalte: that worked, thanks
12:55.14kadrahilHjalte: i've never bothered installing libraries separately before, i always just blamed the authors for not including them
12:55.19kadrahilcoughs
12:55.37kadrahilnow i need a cool pitbull layout
12:57.53Fisker-kills kadrahil
12:57.59kadrahilparries
12:58.33CIA-3903zeksie * r70452 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_SelfBuffs.lua: ZOMGBuffs: Workaround for the German Crippling Poison naming oddity.
12:58.45benNaming oddity?
12:58.54kadrahilFisker-: remember when having full S1 gear was good
12:58.56Zeksieyeah, spell name is not hte same as you get on the weapon
12:59.20Zeksie"Verkrüppelungsgift" on weapon, "Verkrüppelndes Gift" from spell id.
12:59.23Zeksieasses..
12:59.31kadrahili hate the welfare epic stereotype
12:59.36kadrahilpeople associate with having S1 now :(
12:59.57[dRaCo]it's just that it's true for most of those people still wearing s1
12:59.59benZeksie: yeah, people really ought to download the english language pack already
13:00.06Zeksietruely..
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13:00.08kadrahil[dRaCo]: eh
13:00.20kadrahil[dRaCo]: it's actually not half bad for pre kara gear for most classes, isn't it?
13:01.05[dRaCo]right, but most of those people haven't got a clue how to socket or enchant their gear
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13:01.08[dRaCo]not the slightest
13:01.14kadrahil[dRaCo]: too true :(
13:01.17[dRaCo]seen more than enough hunters with str gems
13:01.21kadrahilhahaha
13:01.22kadrahilyeah
13:01.32kadrahilor str enchants even
13:02.06kadrahil[dRaCo]: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil is what i pvp with
13:02.17kadrahil[dRaCo]: am i good at enchanting and gemming :(
13:02.28HjalteWhenever someone links me an item in a whisper, I get the following FrameXML error: http://ace.pastey.net/86025
13:03.08kadrahili wonder if i should swap some of those 8 agi gems for 16 ap
13:03.12[dRaCo]kadrahil: yeah looks ok
13:03.36kadrahil[dRaCo]: rap is a little low unbuffed but with hawk and trueshot it's around 1800
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13:03.54kadrahili'd like to get my s1 helm and legs and another 2k hp or so
13:03.58kadrahilJoshBorke: HAI2U
13:04.23JoshBorkehai2u2
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13:06.33JzarWho can answer two quick questions?
13:06.48Matrix110|~asktoask
13:06.49purlThis is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help.
13:06.56JzarCheck.
13:07.12JzarWhat's a better IRC client than mIRC for Windows?  (Better == Free)
13:07.23Matrix110|better != free :P
13:07.28OrionshockJzar: chatzilla
13:07.29digmouseChatzilla for firefox
13:07.37Hakkerxchat
13:07.40JzarI'm trying to use Waterfall-1.0 in my first Ace'd addon.
13:07.44Matrix110|but there are dozens of IRC Clients available just check for example the wikipedia page:P
13:07.44stew_achatzilla, i use ice chat, theres a few others as well
13:07.55digmousebut i didnt find any problem for my mIRC
13:08.04Matrix110|or just register mirc :P
13:08.05ZeksieHjalte: Guess something is calling ChatFrame_MessageEventHandler with an invalid 'this'. I don't see how it can happen without a mod's interferance
13:08.07JzarGot most of it working pretty good, but can't figure out how to actually open the window.
13:08.32digmousewhat's *actually* open the window? O.o
13:08.34Zeksieand really Blizzard... learn2self
13:09.03JzarCan't create an execute option in the options table, because have to register Waterfall first.
13:09.13kalahassi<PROTECTED>
13:09.15JzarCan't register it first, cuz then the options table doesn't exist yet.
13:09.59omeowDoes anyone know of a mod that can colour enemy player names a different colour? It's quite hard to spot them between loads of hostile NPCs.
13:10.02Jzar"actually open window" just meant everything in the addon works but my Waterfall frame.
13:11.30OrionshockJzar: an options table is just a regular table passed to the register func
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13:11.48Orionshockotherwise most ppl just use a huge as ass local table at the top of the file...or middle
13:12.53JzarI'm just going off the "Hello World" tutorial on wowace, and that's exactly what I'm doing is using a local table at top of file.
13:13.29Orionshockhumm... tbh, you'd prolly be better off trying to figure out how to use the ace3 config gui stuff than waterfall...
13:13.35Orionshocktho that's a problem in and of it'self
13:13.59JzarOnly docs I've seen on Ace3 is the getting started tutorial, same as for Ace2.  Hardly any changes, if at all.
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13:14.44Orionshocktrue, im just trying to promote the use of current stuff over things that need to not be used wrt development.
13:15.02Orionshockand with ace3 the docs are the lib code itself
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13:15.12Orionshock<< learned alot from it.. not much stuck but still
13:16.35JzarAnyway to make ChatZilla appear as a FF tab instead of opening a new window?
13:16.57Orionshockanyone here use prat at one point then switch to chatter?
13:17.10Hjaltedurcyn: Omniscience doesn't seem to embed Libbars well enough, at least jWU doesn't think anything needs it and deletes the library.
13:17.18kadrahilOrionshock: i still use prat..
13:17.51kadrahilOrionshock: i know i'm not helping much :)
13:17.56JzarI still use Prat.  Wish they'd use their Google Code site...
13:18.07Orionshockright, but i've been looking at chatter, wondering if i loose anything useful
13:18.44kilroggi switched from prat to chatter and everything i had works well with chatter, too
13:19.06kadrahilwhat's the name of the mod people use that shows memory usage, fps, mail, etc anywhere on screen and not fubar?
13:19.14kadrahili don't have an example either ;(
13:19.20Orionshockkadrahil: there is a few
13:19.34kadrahilthe one i'm thinking about shows a clock too
13:19.51JzarSLTimex?
13:19.54kilroggOrionshock: class coloring, urls, copying text, input and text layout, alt notes, ... everything there
13:20.00kadrahilJzar: maybe.
13:20.11Hjaltedurcyn: Forget what I said, apparently LibBar-1.0 is no longer on files.wowace.com?
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13:20.51Orionshockkilrogg: the alts module, ie:   <TimeStamp> Alt-Name(Main-Name): ....  << style formatting?
13:20.56JoshBorkeHjalte: perhaps it was renamed?
13:20.59JzarCan I paste code into IRC and ask questions, or is that considered spam?
13:21.11JoshBorkeJzar: no, you cannot paste code into irc
13:21.14Orionshock^^
13:21.19JoshBorkeJzar: instead you can paste code into ace.pastey.net
13:21.46JoshBorkekadrahil: there is Fortress, StatBlocks, PerfBlocks
13:22.09HjalteJoshBorke: Well, then they've really called it something I can't figure out.
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13:23.05kilroggOrionshock: yes, that works
13:23.15kadrahilJoshBorke: checking statblocks out now :)
13:23.21Orionshocki get that functionality with chatter??
13:23.23nevcairielhttp://dev.wowace.com/wowace/branches/LibBars-1.0/ <-- LibBars is still around, just only in branches
13:23.31JoshBorkeHjalte: did you look in branches?
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13:23.45HjalteJoshBorke: Ooh. No, I didn't actually :)
13:25.42JzarHere's my Pastey:  http://ace.pastey.net/86026  Wow reports:  "You cannot open a waterfall without registering it first"
13:26.01JoshBorkejzar: then did you register it?
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13:26.21JzarIt's right after I define everything in the options table.
13:27.22JoshBorkeis the error on that line?
13:27.28JzarIf I move the waterfall:Register to before I define the options table, then I get "'tree' must be a table"
13:27.48kilroggOrionshock: yes, that's what i meant ...
13:28.16JzarNo, it's on waterfall-1.0.lua:442
13:28.27JoshBorkepastey the error also jzar
13:28.28JzarOrion, I didn't quite get *what* you meant.
13:29.04Jzaroops, nvm, lol  Still getting used to this...
13:29.54OrionshockJzar: use ace3 base if your going that route, not the ace2 base
13:30.11Orionshock^^ what i ment
13:30.21JoshBorkejzar: use whatever you want to use.  just know that ace2 is being phased out in favor of ace3
13:30.24CIA-3903digby * r70453 10Yikes/ (Yikes.toc core.lua options.lua):
13:30.24CIA-39Yikes:
13:30.24CIA-39- Added changing font settings
13:31.47Zhinjiohmm, not sure why this didn't occur to me earlier.
13:32.04ZhinjioShouldn't it be possible to maintain a "stub" addon that was simply a compilation of the most commonly used libraries?
13:32.15Zhinjiothat way, it only shows up as one entry in your addons list
13:32.15Orionshockckknight: u see the C in guild chat wrt the new lib?
13:32.18JoshBorkeZhinjio: yea, and it was a cluster fuck
13:32.19OrionshockZhinjio: no, no no
13:32.23JoshBorkeZhinjio: it was tried and it was a bad idea
13:32.32Orionshockthere was much hate, bout as much as babble-spell
13:32.39ZhinjioI mean, clearly, anytime *anything* updates its going to update
13:32.46Xinhuanthat addon was called !!!StandAloneLibraries ;p
13:32.51Zhinjionods.
13:32.57Zhinjiowhy was it ~fail
13:33.14ZhinjioI mean, whats the downside?
13:33.15Orionshockdefeated the LoD'ness of libs
13:33.25Zhinjiohmm.
13:33.42Zhinjiocouldn't they still be made to LoD inside the stub?
13:33.54Orionshockno, lod depends on the addon being in the root folder
13:33.55JoshBorkeno
13:34.03Zhinjiooh
13:34.08Zhinjioalrighty then. nm.
13:34.12Zhinjiogoes back to being a nub.
13:36.21ZhinjioI think I'm going toi include buggrabber/bugsack in my beta release so people have no excuse for not providing me good error reporting
13:36.34Orionshocktbh, what i'd like is an addon i can aimlessly add modules to that have no configuration but do a very specific idea.  IE, in BG's i have this stub of code that adds dmg/heal/HK to the player tooltip
13:36.54JoshBorkeOrionshock: make your own conglomo mod locally
13:37.06Orionshockthought bout it
13:37.09Xinhuandont do that Zhinjio
13:37.18ZhinjioNivFreak: ping
13:37.29Xinhuanthere was drama in the past about how auctioneer packages Swatter
13:37.30ZhinjioXinhuan: why?
13:37.36OrionshockZhinjio: include it w/ base folder distro, not embeded...
13:37.45Zhinjioyes, exactly
13:37.51XinhuanOrionshock, that's how auctioneer packages it
13:38.00ZhinjioI'm not intending to make it part of the production release. just for beta
13:38.16Xinhuanmany complained it stepped on ppl's choies on the choice of a debugger
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13:38.28Xinhuani.e if swatter was installed by auctioneer's zip
13:38.32Xinhuanit conflicts with bugsack
13:38.32Orionshockie:  Root\BugSack .. Root\BugGrabber .. Root\Addon  -- ect
13:38.48Zhinjionods.
13:39.14Xinhuanmeaning, any number of ppl that run auctioneer will likely have a addon conflict if u package bugsack
13:39.23OrionshockDID YOU KNOW: that auctioneer emebeds libstub inside one of it's addon's as a header stub...
13:39.38Xinhuanso at the moment, if bugsack detects swatter, it forcefully kills swatter in the code
13:39.39evlI'm having some problems with SetTexture and GetItemIcon, when are the actual textures available? If I just set them while I'm logging in they aren't showing until next reload
13:39.42Orionshockthought that was odd
13:40.06Xinhuanrather than allowing the user to choose which one to run
13:40.54OrionshockXinhuan: last time i loaded up with a new wtf file it asked me..
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13:41.51Xinhuannot sure if its reverted, its been 6 months since that drama
13:42.50Orionshockdrama??
13:43.02Orionshockiv seen the 2 authors talk about it on irc a few times...
13:43.33Xinhuanwas ppl arguaing about whether vharr should have forcefilly killed swatter, denying users the choice
13:43.55Orionshock...
13:44.19Orionshockhehe...right... as if that argument makes any sense... but ok...
13:44.28Orionshockmeh..
13:44.29Chomperswas that really six months ago?
13:45.02Zhinjiobugsack doesn't do anything on its own, right? Need !Buggrabber as well
13:45.09OrionshockZhinjio: true
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13:47.21kadrahilhttp://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2606/wowscrnshot041708193620qy1.jpg
13:47.27kadrahil^ i like that
13:47.59kadrahilmost custom UI's seem to be putting the player and target/ToT frames in the middle of the screen nowadays
13:48.12kadrahiland is taht fubar?
13:48.14kadrahilthat
13:48.41Hakkerlooks like statblocks too mee
13:48.58kadrahilah
13:49.22kadrahilwith some eePanels for those backgrounds?
13:49.22Hakkerwith a kgpanel/eepanel as a background
13:49.27kadrahilyeah
13:49.28CIA-3903next96 07next96 * r70454 10CombatFilter/ (66 files in 17 dirs):
13:49.28CIA-39CombatFilter:
13:49.28CIA-39- Add localization
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13:54.23JzarAha, I figured it out!
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13:55.19CIA-39ButtonFacade:
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14:05.00CIA-3903trasher * r70457 10Hemlock/Hemlock.toc:
14:05.00CIA-39Hemlock:
14:05.00CIA-39- toc update
14:05.27OrionshockJJSheets: thx for the fix in statblocks_dogtag
14:05.32Pkekyo|any html gurus here?
14:05.37JJSheetsnp  :)
14:06.34Orionshocktbh i find it strange that ppl actually use it... twas a joke on the thread about making it at first...
14:07.27JJSheetslmao
14:07.57Orionshockis a hack
14:08.00JJSheetsI love it.  gives me a spot to put my experience and reputation values :)
14:08.13Orionshocklol
14:08.36JJSheetsuses a vertical HUD style pitbull layout, no room for them in there... :p
14:08.38Orionshocku like the validation method i use for units?  UnitIsUnit(val,val)
14:08.55JJSheetslol
14:09.19Orionshockthat way if you type in gibberish it pukes on it :D
14:09.30CIA-3903next96 * r70458 10Cartographer/embeds.xml:
14:09.30CIA-39Cartographer:
14:09.30CIA-39LibGuildPositions-1.0 instead of LibGuildPositions-3.0
14:09.44Orionshockmeh off to sleep
14:10.15JJSheetsnight
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14:10.50CIA-39ButtonFacade:
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14:14.54Merais now away, auto-away after 20 minutes (logon pageron)
14:15.23nevcairielMera: please turn that message off in here :)
14:15.23Merais away, auto-away after 20 minutes (29s ago)
14:15.36ThiefMasterhttp://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
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14:22.40ZhinjioPkekyo|: I know a thing or two about html. sup?
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14:25.06nevcairielJJSheets: so what styles are already out there for usage? I used the default cyC skin (Serenity i think?) on two bars and i miss it :D
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14:26.28CIA-3903ennuilg * r70462 10scorchio/:
14:26.28CIA-39scorchio:
14:26.28CIA-39- Externals! Again!
14:27.24JJSheetsnevcairiel, StormFX is working on converting skins from cyC to BF.  I too miss Serenity, and if he doesn't get around to it soon (he's been waiting on my recent fixes), I'll be doing that one. :)
14:27.57JJSheetsnevcairiel, and in case you didn't notice... Gloss layers can now have user specified Alpha now.. :)
14:29.18Zhinjioalrighty. finally released public beta of this damn addon
14:29.45JJSheetsis that like This Old House?  A cool new TV show... This Damn Addon.
14:29.51Zhinjioheheheee
14:29.54Zhinjiopretty much
14:29.59Zhinjio6 freaking months in the making.
14:30.04ZhinjioI have dreams about it.
14:30.06Zhinjiosick.
14:30.14JJSheetsWhat addon is it?  :)
14:30.19ZhinjioSuicideKingsGeo
14:30.22Zhinjioloot distribution addon
14:30.27JJSheetsAh.
14:30.39ZhinjioIs there some "approved" method for moving a version from branches to trunk?
14:30.52CIA-3903nicksmith * r70463 10TMrecruit/Core.lua: TMrecruit: Version check wispers over addon channel
14:30.55Zhinjioor just create the directory and move it
14:31.04Zhinjioer, copy it
14:31.13JJSheetsgood question.  I don't know, I just did my feature branch from trunk to branch and back.
14:31.38JJSheetsI'd assume just do an SVN copy, so the history goes back into your branches version changes.
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14:31.48ZhinjioI want to keep my branches copy for my development purposes, and only push major releases to trunk
14:32.02JJSheetslmao
14:32.07CIA-3903zeksie * r70464 10XPerl/ (XPerl_Globals.lua localization.lua):
14:32.07CIA-39XPerl:
14:32.07CIA-39- Disables the old XPerl_GrimReaper and says to get GrimReaper instead.
14:32.07CIA-39- Adds Silence to spells to skip highlighting for Rogues.
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14:32.30nevcairielwonders what all those old bans are
14:32.38JJSheetslol
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14:33.44nevcairielbanning dynamic ips on a straight hostname is so useful :P
14:34.11CIA-3903ennuilg * r70465 10scorchio/:
14:34.11CIA-39scorchio:
14:34.11CIA-39- Tinker...
14:34.35Zhinjioyikes, that didn't take long
14:34.41Zhinjiosomeone's already downloading the new version.
14:35.13ckknight_I don't see how so many people had problems with the C. It was only there for 20 minutes before I caught it, and it was in the middle of the night :-P
14:35.33JJSheetsem... the C?
14:35.46nevcairielamazingly alot of people updated during that time :D
14:35.55CIA-3903Sidoine * r70466 10Chinon/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
14:35.55CIA-39Chinon:
14:35.55CIA-39- fix memory usage
14:35.55CIA-39- add frame border
14:36.00ckknight_yea, I did SendChatMessage instead of SendAddonMessage if you had ChatThrottleLib while using LibGuildPositions-1.0
14:36.11nevcairielckknight_: middle of the night is middle of the day for other people! =)
14:36.30ckknight_bah, lousy Frenchmen
14:36.34JJSheetslol
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14:50.39Zhinjioalright, curse updated.
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15:03.12evlWhat's an easy way to get the total number of free slots in all bags?
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15:04.00Elsiaace3comm in when receiving distribution mode "Whisper" is there a way to get the sender name?
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15:06.46DeXt[A]Can anyone help me to modify skinner?
15:07.15Zhinjioanyone on here who can approve a wowinterface upload?
15:07.20Zhinjioor is that just Cairenn|afk ?
15:09.06DeXt[A]How do you change position of chat tabs?
15:09.30HjalteOmen is giving me TONS of modulebase.lua errors right now
15:09.33DeXt[A]and how to remove arrows that r used to scroll chat log
15:10.22DeXt[A]I mean how to change position of where you type. I tought skinner had that option
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15:10.43JoshBorkeZhinjio: this isn't the channel for wowinterface help
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15:12.00charonHjalte: may be my fault. which locale and what messages?
15:12.50Hjaltecharon: I'm using english wow and here's the first error: http://ace.pastey.net/86029
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15:13.48Neko^^anyone in here use cdt(2) alot?
15:14.16ZhinjioJoshBorke: I'm aware, but as you can see, the same people sometimes are available here.
15:14.24JoshBorkeZhinjio: indeed
15:14.51Zhinjiohmm. #wowinterface is invite only
15:14.52Zhinjionice
15:15.00JoshBorkeyes
15:15.03Zhinjioah well. I can be patient.
15:15.05JoshBorkethey changed it to #wowuidev
15:15.15JoshBorkeso you can no longer get support for just wowi *boggle*
15:15.54Hjaltecharon: I was switching between the different modes when i noticed the errors, none of the other modes than single target seemed to work btw
15:16.06CIA-3903jncl * r70468 10Skinner/ (13 files in 2 dirs):
15:16.06CIA-39Skinner: Skinned Accountant, Assessment, BaudManifest, Bongos3 Options, Demon, Palatank, TargetAnnounce & Tankadin
15:16.06CIA-39- Bugfix for Recount skin
15:16.13Elsia\o/
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15:17.35Zhinjiowow, someone's actually reading the wiki pages. I'm impressed.
15:18.42charonHjalte: i'll have to experiment. i fiddled around in modulebase for the autohide thing, apparently i should have tested more
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15:19.53Zhinjiook, I think I've pushed this up to everywhere it needs to
15:20.12Zhinjiowowui, wowi, curse, my wiki. now I just wait for bug reports to roll in, right?
15:20.14Zhinjiogrins.
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15:24.22Hjaltecharon: You need more of the error messages I received or is it enough?
15:24.41charonHjalte: i'm almost there, thanks
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15:29.02CIA-3903zhinjio * r70469 10/branches/SKG/ (SKG.toc SKG_Globals.lua):
15:29.02CIA-39SuicideKingsGeo :
15:29.02CIA-39<PROTECTED>
15:29.02CIA-39<PROTECTED>
15:29.58CIA-3903zhinjio * r70470 10SKG/:
15:29.58CIA-39SuicideKingsGeo :
15:29.58CIA-39<PROTECTED>
15:30.01ZhinjioI have no idea if.... ah!
15:30.06Zhinjiothere it is. sweet.
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15:31.04Zhinjiotortoise makes branching cake
15:31.09Zhinjioas, I suppose, it well should.
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15:32.28clearscreenIs there a WoWAce addon that allows you to enter a partial name of an item, and then give you the link(s) of any similar item(s)?
15:32.48Hjalteclearscreen: do you mean of similar name?
15:33.11clearscreenyeah
15:33.22clearscreenso for example I'd type: /link Ash
15:33.28clearscreenand it would give me the itemlink of Ashkandi
15:33.39XinhuanItemsync, itemdb, lootlink, atlastloot, wowequip... just to name a few
15:33.44Ozguli`meh /link ash -> ashbringer
15:33.44CIA-3903charon * r70471 10Omen/ModuleBase.lua:
15:33.44CIA-39Omen: Reinitialize columns when changing layout
15:33.44CIA-39_Might_ fix errors in Healer mode.
15:33.50Xinhuancan do that, some of it to a limited extent
15:33.55charonHjalte: ^ ... if that doesn't help i need the exact steps you do, because i couldn't reproduce the error either before or after that change
15:33.58clearscreenyeah Ozguli`, it should list both though :p
15:34.32Hjaltecharon: Does it help you, that I have autocollapse on?
15:34.52charonnot really. i use autocollapse + hide bars window (but not hide all)
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15:35.28charoni mean, i _think_ i now understand what triggered the bug, and the commit above attempts to fix the root cause
15:35.34charonit's just that i've never seen it actually happening
15:36.11charonalso, what do you mean by "none of the other modes than single target seemed to work"?
15:37.01netcurseis giving away 5 AoC PvP event beta keys on #curseforge, addons authors only.
15:37.06Hjaltecharon: Well, they all displayed bars on top of each other and so on. Later on, single target mode also had some anomalities, but during the fight it sorted itself out.
15:37.25nevcairielnetcurse: 5 now? yesterday it was 2!
15:37.39netcursei got 5;)
15:37.54clearscreen"LinksList" seems to do exactly what I want :) thanks
15:37.55nevcairielget me a wotlk key and we're talking
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15:40.35ZhinjioAntiarc: I dig the edit box on chatter being the same color as your channel. thats awesome.
15:40.37Hjaltewrites an addon called myfirstaddon in a hurry
15:41.09charonHjalte: ah, that may just have been a followup bug. can you test 70471?
15:41.29Hjaltecharon: Retro SSC at the moment, pulling Lurker right now :)
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15:41.43aestilAntiarc: i got to raid last night!
15:41.55CIA-3903next96 * r70472 10Cartographer_ExtractGas/addon.lua:
15:41.55CIA-39Cartographer_ExtractGas:
15:41.55CIA-39- BG instead of bs
15:42.09Zhinjioanyone else seeing issues where their computer locks up if they try to go go Qual'Danas?
15:42.13ZhinjioI have a friend who's having issues.
15:42.42Xinhuanit means he has an old versionof astrolabe
15:42.57Xinhuanusually gatherer and/or tomtom and/or questhelper and/or nauticus
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15:43.41Zhinjiohe uses gatherer
15:43.44Zhinjioso just update that?
15:43.46Zhinjioor disagble it?
15:44.48baer_what might cause empty grid-frames?
15:44.59baer_just raided ZA without unitframes!
15:45.23cncfanaticsJJSheets: hello :p :)
15:45.33DarkElfhttp://www.gathereraddon.com/ the 3.1.1 fixed a freeze bug in gatherer
15:45.33JJSheetsHiya
15:45.59cncfanaticshow's infinibar advancing ?
15:46.43CIA-3903charon * r70473 10Omen/ModuleBase.lua: Omen: make MaybeAutoHide check very defensively for uninitialized columns
15:46.45charonHjalte: there. that last one fixes the symptom, just in case the root cause has survived r70471
15:47.09Hjaltecharon: I'll check it out when it hits files.wowace.com
15:47.17JJSheetscncfanatics, Quite nicely, though I still need to do some extra work.  Have you read the forum thread?
15:47.37cncfanaticsnope, haven't had time yet, I was just wondering
15:47.44cncfanaticsas I've been coding activly again on fb lately
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15:48.14JJSheetscncfanatics, also, have you seen ButtonFacade? (my more modern cyCircled replacement)
15:48.33Zhinjioso ... Mapster/GatherMate/Routes?
15:48.41cncfanaticsnope, I haven't, I've only been active again on the addon scene recently
15:48.44cncfanaticscan u linky me ?
15:48.44kenlyrictomtom!
15:48.53cncfanatics(oh, and can it support fb3 ? :p)
15:48.55Zhinjiooh, for waypoints?
15:49.00kenlyricyes
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15:49.22Zhinjioand what do I leave hanging around from Cart to get the data moved over?
15:50.02JJSheetscncfanatics, ButtonFacade support is enabled by the actionbar addon, so, if you want fb3 to support BF, you have to add a couple lines of code.  Easy stuff though.
15:50.18CIA-3903antiarc * r70474 10Chatter/Modules/Highlight.lua: Chatter: Make highlight not highlight when the player says a highlight word.
15:50.28cncfanaticsany docs ?
15:50.33cncfanaticsI'll add it right away while I'm at it
15:50.41HjalteAntiarc: Goodie, I was just about to play annoyed user about that :)
15:50.58durcynHjalte: the lib is in branches, is why
15:51.09Hjaltedurcyn: Yeah, someone told me that later on.
15:51.58durcyni guess i should've put the addon in branches too, but laziness won
15:51.58cncfanaticsJJSheets: you made some very nice features for ib, mind if I copy some of them ?
15:51.58JJSheetscncfanatics, Don't mind at all.  :)
15:51.59Zhinjiowhere's tomtom hosted?
15:51.59baer_so, no one's responsible for grid or know what (maybe) caused the missing unitframes?
15:51.59Zhinjiowowi?
15:52.02cladhairewowinterface
15:52.07Zhinjiok
15:52.13cncfanaticsthe macro editor is especialy sexy
15:52.21JJSheetslol
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15:52.30CIA-3903ottokang * r70475 10PitBull/RaidTargetIcon/RaidTargetIcon.lua:
15:52.30CIA-39PitBull
15:52.30CIA-39- zhTW Update for RaidTargetIcon/RaidTargetIcon.lua
15:53.12JJSheetscncfanatics, http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12549.msg200852#msg200852   <---- ButtonFacade link to the API stuff.  You should, however read most of the thread to know what's going on.  It's still a work in progress, but is very close to being stable enough to release.
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15:53.33cncfanaticslets see
15:53.38JJSheetsReally, I just need to bugfix anything that comes along, and write Docs for the API.
15:54.05cncfanaticsI'll wait till you wrote docs I think
15:54.08JJSheetsAlso, you can look at how IB2 or Bartender4 (from branches) enables support for ButtonFacade.
15:54.11cncfanaticsand code on FB in the meantime
15:54.14JJSheetslol
15:54.22cncfanaticsI only just implemented itembuttons, so plenty left to do :p
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15:55.02JJSheetsIt's actually VERY easy.  A buttongroup or bar needs to register a group with LibButtonFacade, and each button you add to the bar needs to add itself to the bar's LBF group.
15:55.07Moo~emulate jjsheets
15:55.09purlMy penis has amazing healing powers.
15:55.13JJSheetslmao
15:55.18ZhinjioXinhuan: ping
15:55.27cncfanaticswell, I don't even have groups implemented in fb atm :p
15:55.42JJSheetsFor Shame!  :p
15:55.56nevcairielso just create a FB head group :P
15:56.02nevcairielor every button as its own group
15:56.12Moo~emulate jjsheets
15:56.13purlMy penis has amazing healing powers.
15:56.13cncfanaticscould do, indeed
15:56.14JJSheetsyep.  Groups are registered as (Addon,Group,Button)
15:56.43cncfanaticsI guess I'll make a ButtonFacade and a CyCircled module soon then :)
15:56.59cncfanaticsJJSheets: I hope I won't have to change half of the main code like I had to do with cy :p
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15:57.55dsDranorWhats a good mod to play a sound when poison is about to wear off?
15:58.22JJSheetscncfanatics, nope.  you create groups and you add buttons in your code to groups.  only a couple lines of extra code.
15:59.07JJSheetscncfanatics, cyCircled's way of having modules for individual bar addons was an ugly hack imho.
15:59.45JJSheetsButtonFacade gives you a library to use.  You get the library, and if it's available you do the ButtonFacade code with it.
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16:00.26JJSheetscncfanatics, oh yeah, and did I mention ButtonFacade can use different skins per group?  :)
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16:00.46cncfanaticsso basicly, if I have 120 buttons I could use 1 skin for each ? :p
16:00.59JJSheetsyou could.  :p
16:01.22JJSheetsbut you'd have to create 120 groups to do it.  :)
16:01.50cncfanaticsobviously :)
16:02.09cncfanaticsstill so much work to do on fb :(
16:02.33evlWhen are icon textures available? I've tried doing a simple SetNormalTexture on a button but the texture isn't shown until the next /reload
16:03.13cncfanaticsshould always be available
16:03.23JJSheetsevl, SetNormalTexture is the border, not the Icon.
16:03.35evlOooh
16:03.41JJSheetsyuo want:  _G[button:GetName().."Icon"]
16:03.50evlI'm inheriting SecureActionButtonTemplate and ActionButton
16:03.54evland I want to set the icon only
16:04.14cncfanaticsJJSheets: do you assume anything on texture location ?
16:04.22cncfanaticsbecause fb's texture locations are totaly not standard
16:04.34JJSheetscncfanatics, define texture locations?  :p
16:04.34cncfanaticsIcon is at Button.Icon instead of Button .. "Icon" for example
16:04.38JJSheetsah
16:04.47JJSheetsYou can specify the Icons in a btndata table.
16:04.52JJSheetsand other stuff
16:04.54cncfanaticsgood that
16:05.07cncfanaticsalso, there is no CheckedTexture on my buttons, as they're regular buttons and not checkbuttons, no issues with that either ?
16:05.11evlJJSheets: so I need to name all my buttons or it won't work?
16:05.38JJSheetsevl, I believe so, yes.  Though there may be some way of getting to it.  Naming them is the easiest.
16:05.45cncfanaticsevl: if you're making actionbuttons you'll have to name your buttons eventualy anyway, keybinding blizz API requires frame names
16:06.11JJSheetscncfanatics, no issues with not having a CheckedTexture either, I believe.
16:06.37cncfanaticsthere are also 100 other weird things :p
16:06.40cncfanaticsI'll find out when I get to it
16:10.23CIA-3903nicksmith * r70476 10TMrecruit/ (Core.lua Version Log.txt): TMrecruit: Version check wispers over addon channel both directions now.
16:10.37Zhinjiook, so the gathermate data import puts alot of shit on the map.
16:10.48Zhinjiomeaning: nodes where there cannot possibly be nodes
16:10.50Zhinjiowtf.
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16:11.30DARKGuyMornin' ^^
16:12.56DARKGuyHm, could it be that an addon interrupts my melee attacks? how do I know?
16:13.53cncfanaticsI doubt addons can interrupt your melee attacks
16:14.30Zhinjiothats awesome. one of those addons crashed wow for me.
16:14.33ZhinjioKwality.
16:15.05DARKGuysweeet.
16:15.19ZhinjioMapster/GatherMate/Routes/Tomtom
16:15.47Zhinjioone ofthose 4 did it.
16:15.47DARKGuySweeeeet.
16:15.47DARKGuycncfanatics, well I've noticed it has happened to me when I have my addons enabled, and the "bug" seems to be gone when I disable them all
16:15.47nevcairielnone of those did that for me, ever. you must be broken Zhinjio :P
16:15.54DARKGuycncfanatics, how do you enable the taint log or something?
16:16.01ZhinjioI must be. Never had a crash until just now.
16:16.06DARKGuyI've seen sometimes "Interface action failed because of an addon"
16:16.16cncfanatics~taintlog
16:16.24cncfanaticshmmm, I don't know by heart
16:16.27cncfanaticsand purl doesn't either
16:16.28cncfanaticsanyone? :p
16:16.28nevcairiel./console taintLog 1
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16:16.47DARKGuyCool, now I'll have to find a raid :P
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16:16.49DARKGuythanks ^^
16:17.09cncfanaticspurl, taintlog is /console taintLog 1
16:17.09purlokay, cncfanatics
16:17.10DARKGuyWho needs console? I run WoW with -console >:)
16:17.17DARKGuyomg
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16:17.20DARKGuyhe leans?! oO
16:17.23DARKGuy*learns
16:17.24cncfanatics~taintlog
16:17.25purlwell, taintlog is /console taintLog 1
16:17.36DARKGuyThat's cure.
16:17.36cncfanaticsand yes it does :p
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16:17.38DARKGuy*cute.
16:17.38GeloYou can see taints ingame with BaudErrorFrame :)
16:17.44DARKGuyGelo, really? :D
16:17.45DARKGuysweet
16:17.49GeloI think so..?
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16:18.13GeloLast time I accidentally got it I got lots of "blocked" errors
16:18.30Gelonot the addon, it was showing the actual error
16:18.39GeloOr maybe i'm mistaken
16:18.46DARKGuyWhich is good
16:18.51DARKGuyI'll get it anyways
16:19.06cncfanatics~taintlog
16:19.07purlsomebody said taintlog was get BaudErrorFrame from http://downloads.curse.com/details/7853/ or do /console taintLog 1
16:19.15digmouseright
16:19.29digmouseBaudErrorFrame or BaudTaintLog
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16:19.44nevcairielBugSack can show taint errors too
16:19.51nevcairielyou just have to turn off "Hide Addon mistakes"
16:19.54digmousecan it now?
16:19.54nevcairielor what its called
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16:20.07cncfanaticsit can ? :o
16:20.08cncfanaticscool
16:20.09cncfanaticslets see
16:20.11digmousethen that would be great too
16:20.11Gelonevcairiel, I didn't know :>
16:20.15DARKGuy"When an LUA, taint, or XML error occurs, the mod makes a sound, and info on the error can be gotten by clicking the button that will appear near the minimap. If you want the button to appear in a different place, drag it while holding the shift key." :)
16:20.19digmouseeither
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16:20.51cncfanaticsI'm gonna turn that off right away :p and see the result
16:20.55cncfanaticsidealy, it should have zero taint
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16:21.28GeloBaud gives off the "gnome dies" sounds when an errors occurs... heh
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16:21.36CIA-3903nicksmith * r70477 10TMrecruit/ (Core.lua TMrecruit.toc Version Log.txt): TMrecruit: release with version check and setup gui working right
16:21.38nevcairielfemale?
16:21.38nevcairiel:D
16:21.41Gelomale
16:21.55nevcairielthats good too, but i prefer the female one
16:22.06cncfanaticsI love every gnome dies sound
16:22.08cncfanaticsmakes my day
16:22.21digmouseI turn them off
16:22.48DARKGuylol
16:23.17digmousei got 100+ taints per 1 raid so if that's on, I would be crazy
16:23.25GeloO.o
16:23.33Gelohow'd you get that...?
16:23.41DARKGuyh4x!
16:23.47nevcairielall taints i get is MacroSequence
16:23.54nevcairielbecause cog still didnt fix that!
16:24.01CIA-3903nicksmith * r70478 10TMrecruit/Core.lua: TMrecruit: misspelled / command
16:24.06DARKGuylol
16:24.20Antiarchttp://elitistjerks.com/716181-post27.html <-- cool idea that I may have to rip off. >_>
16:25.27cncfanaticsI'm a bit anoyed with ace addons these days
16:25.30GeloDidn't I see a rogue using that before... /scratch
16:25.46cncfanaticsthe fact that an addon is "ace" seems to make up for the fact its the most inefficient piece of shit ever written
16:25.59Antiarccncfanatics: Hey, not all of them! :P
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16:26.07cncfanaticsI'm talking about some of them
16:26.15durcynwell, just about any schmuck can get an svn account... me for example =P
16:26.18AntiarcGranted, there are some abhorrent addons written on top of Ace :P
16:26.19cncfanaticsthe collection of idiots using ace addons tends to piss me off :p
16:26.32cncfanaticsand also, 5liners written with ace anoy me more then everything
16:26.40cncfanaticsthe only ace thing those have is the AceLibrary call at top
16:26.59AntiarcHeheh, I have personal addons like that, but I don't commit them :P
16:27.10AntiarcBut I write them with the assumption that ace is already installed standalone
16:27.13dylanmPeople who think that the framework is the most important thing are annoying.
16:27.34cncfanaticsagree dylanm
16:27.51cncfanaticsunfortunatly most of the non-coders think like that dylanm, and some of the coders too :s
16:29.25benTo more or less return to a previous discussion, is WoW supposed to load faster with embedded or disembedded libraries?
16:29.59Gelodisembedded?
16:30.16Geloor am i wrong?
16:30.27cncfanaticsdisembedded
16:30.32cncfanaticsbecause it loads no duplicate code
16:31.10dylanmIdeally that's the only advantage.
16:31.24durcynwell, you also get a bit of the client saying "hey, I can't load this duplicate code", and if it's in the toc, writing an expensive log line.
16:31.52Geloand good for zipping packed UIs.. not that I do it.
16:32.11Gelo"zipping packed", what the hell does that mean....?
16:32.42Gelothinks he's tired
16:33.05cncfanaticsis sure Gelo is tired
16:33.16Gelodoesn't believe cncfanatics
16:33.29cncfanaticsbelieves cncfanatics
16:33.31Gelolies!
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16:34.05cncfanaticsJJSheets: on what events, scripts do you update the texture of your #showsequence macros ?
16:35.14JJSheetssame as any other.  #showsequence just acts like a /castsequence line without doing anything when the macro is run.
16:35.45cncfanaticson the spells casted events ?
16:36.02JJSheetsDo a search for GetButtonTexture in IB_Button.lua and IB_ButtonTypes.lua
16:36.09cncfanaticsty
16:36.15evlWhat's a clever way to retrieve the number of free bag slots?
16:36.24cncfanaticsit's been way too long since I did such stuff heh
16:36.32nevcairielcheck how the wow ui does that evl :p
16:36.49evlnevcairiel: where is that display actually, never seen ity :P
16:36.59nevcairielevl: on the bag back icon
16:37.05evlah thanks
16:37.07nevcairiel*pack
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16:37.55JJSheetsevl, GetContainerNumFreeSlots(container)
16:37.59cncfanaticsJJSheets: you do it OnUpdate :s
16:38.05cncfanaticsthats ugly :p
16:38.18nevcairielcant you just do it on PostClick?
16:38.23nevcairielfor sequences?
16:38.29evlJJSheets: Preferably for all slots avaiiable including extra bags
16:38.42cncfanaticsnevcairiel: what if multiple buttons contain the same macro and the other one is used
16:38.45JJSheetsevl, do that for each bag, then add them up.
16:38.55Hjaltecharon: I'm not in a raid anymore, but updating Omen seems to make the errors go away, when switching between modes now.
16:39.16nevcairielcncfanatics: so track which macro is where .)
16:39.28cncfanaticsI think spellcasting events would work better
16:40.13JJSheetscncfanatics, I do it in OnUpdate I think because any number of conditions can change without event (such as a reset timer in a sequence triggering)
16:40.26evlYay cheating ;)
16:40.44cncfanaticshmmmmm
16:40.45cncfanaticsbah
16:40.47cncfanaticsthats anoying
16:40.53JJSheetsAlso, I've memoized my GetCurStateContents function so it only does the extra work when absolutely needed.
16:41.06cncfanaticswell, my state system is pretty weird
16:41.10cncfanaticsI doubt its the same as yours
16:41.20JJSheetshaven't gotten around to memoizing my OnUpdate code.  :p
16:41.36cncfanaticsI doubt I could even memoize my state code
16:41.47cncfanaticsits not complete though
16:42.07JJSheetsI actually have two state systems.  One for simple check boxes to choose states, another uses macro option lists to select state.
16:42.19cncfanaticsmine is completely macro options based
16:42.25cncfanaticsbut supports having new states added on-the-fly
16:42.35JJSheetsany code can be memoized.  it's just a question of whether it is worth it to do so.
16:42.49cncfanaticswell, there ain't a lot to memoize in it :p
16:43.08JJSheetsmy GetCurStateContents function NEEDED to be memoized... was causing lag in raids.
16:43.23evl<PROTECTED>
16:43.30evlgives the current count
16:43.43JJSheetslmao
16:43.43cncfanatics:o
16:43.50cncfanaticsmine ain't doing shit at all in the background
16:43.59cncfanaticsmy state code that is
16:43.59JJSheetsevl, that is quite a roundabout way of doing it... but it ought to work.  :)
16:44.04evlwhy?
16:44.18evlIm using an existing value that's going to be updated anywya
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16:44.22evlinstead of making my own for loop
16:44.26cncfanaticsyou can calculate it, so thats usualy prefered
16:44.31JJSheetsthat's why I said it ought to work.  :p
16:44.36cncfanaticsbecause relying on outside code means you're fucked if it bugs
16:44.43JJSheetsor if they change it.
16:44.49cncfanaticsindeed
16:44.59evlwell addons explode
16:45.08JJSheetsor if another addon goes in and disable that display on the backpack.
16:45.20Gelocan you send some of thos addons to my friends evl ?
16:45.25JJSheetslol
16:45.30cncfanaticshmmmm, doing RefreshMacroTexture() every OnUpdate will lead to two GetModifiedAttribute calls per second :s awwww :'(
16:45.31evl;)
16:45.49cncfanaticss/second/frame/
16:46.02cncfanatics<PROTECTED>
16:46.07JJSheetscncfanatics, thus I memoized some of my code.  :p
16:46.13cncfanaticsI could parse the /castsequence
16:46.48JJSheetswell... I need to get to work... see ya'll in about 5 hours or so.
16:46.52cncfanaticsbye
16:48.45kadrahilwho wrote nshakedown
16:48.55kadrahilbecause the bigwigs warnings it spams
16:48.57kadrahilare hilarious
16:48.58kadrahilOMG BEAR
16:49.11Hjaltekadrahil: That's default bigwigs test warnings :)
16:49.17kadrahilHjalte: ahh :)
16:51.06evlANyway to figure out if a BigWigs module is currently enabled?
16:51.46Snagoevl: You can take a IHML if you want :)
16:51.56evlah :)
16:52.22Snagos/a I/a look in/
16:52.26charonevl: doesn't the fubar tooltip for bigwigs list them?
16:52.31nevcairielIHML as in I Hate My Life?
16:52.32nevcairiel:P
16:52.36Snago~fail Snago
16:52.37purlSnago: FAIL!
16:52.37evlI need to do it from an addon
16:52.41cncfanaticsthe ML stands for MACRO LOL
16:52.42evlI'm making an universal reminder addon
16:52.46cncfanaticsI dunno for the IH
16:52.47evlfor all those pesky forgettables
16:53.34Stanzillacncfanatics: I have
16:53.57nevcairielI Hate My Life is better, though
16:54.03cncfanaticsanyone knows if blizz macro parsing code is exposes somewhere ?
16:54.10cncfanaticss/exposes/exposed/
16:54.18nevcairielcncfanatics: no it was moved into C code in 2.3 or something
16:54.29cncfanaticshmmm, so I'll have to rewrite it in lua
16:54.32cncfanaticsbit of a waste :p
16:54.40nevcairielcheck pre-2.3 code for the code
16:55.05cncfanaticsthats an idea, should have thought of that myself really -.-
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16:58.26cncfanaticsnevcairiel: got any idea where the actual code was ?
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17:01.45kadrahilhttp://files.filefront.com/Nagrand+041908+115256mov/;10037910;/fileinfo.html
17:01.53kadrahil^ video of the ui i'm workin on
17:01.58kadrahilusing nshakedown :O
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17:05.54cncfanaticswhats nshakedown ? :o
17:06.24kadrahilit's an addon that basically enables every one of your addons' test or config modes
17:06.28kadrahiland lets you move stuff around
17:06.40nevcairielor adds new config modes for addons that dont have them, iirc
17:06.44kadrahilahh
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17:08.00Fisker-slaps kadrahil around a bit with a large trout
17:08.30Fisker-your addon is bad and you should feel bad
17:08.33Fisker-whatever the addon may be
17:08.37kadrahilno you
17:08.40Fisker-NO U
17:08.45kadrahilNO U
17:08.47cncfanaticsbut the one calling it bad without even being able to code should feel the worst !
17:08.50Fisker-i was first
17:08.51Fisker-also
17:08.52Fisker-NO U
17:08.55kadrahilcncfanatics: oh burn
17:09.03Gnarfozis that a recording made with the mac client?
17:09.04cncfanaticsI love burning
17:09.10kadrahilGnarfoz: yep
17:09.13Fisker-who are you burning though?
17:09.18Fisker-Given that i am able to code :O
17:09.19Gnarfozblizz should get their act together and change the timestamps to something sensible
17:09.26kadrahilGnarfoz: haha yeah
17:09.32Pkekyo|eduwhat's the comment-syntax for php?
17:09.32kadrahili also need to adjust the quality of the recording
17:09.33Gnarfozlike YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS
17:09.40Fisker-lets egg their houses
17:09.41GnarfozPkekyo|: /* */
17:09.58Fisker-flowerboxes suck
17:10.00Pkekyo|eduthat didn't work...for some reason it was displayed
17:10.09Fisker-just like your mother etc.
17:10.13kadrahilmeh
17:10.21kadrahili don't even know why i have pitbull raid frames enabled
17:10.24kadrahili'm a hunter >.>
17:11.02GnarfozI got rid of raid frames on my rogue with 2.0
17:11.38charonHjalte: oh, only saw your message now. so it's fixed? great :)
17:11.42hydrogenI still use raidbar
17:11.46hydrogenjust for the nostalgia
17:15.00gix-does anyone know how sites like wowhead filter out class ability spells? for examle improved moonfire (rank 4) is not associated with a druid, but rank 1 and 2 are. though i can't find any distinction between rank 4 and 1/2 here.
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17:16.46evlSnago: BigWigs:IsModuleActive("Anetheron") :)
17:17.01Pkekyo|edusodding hell...how to increase table row/column padding?
17:17.14durcyngix-: it might have something to do with there only being two ranks of improved moonfire
17:17.22ZhinjioPkekyo|edu: whats up?
17:17.47NeoTronso bizarre. we have a reasonbly amount of snow here today
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17:19.10Pkekyo|eduZhinjio: working on a webdesign project...can't remember how to pop some more air into this bloody table
17:19.46Zhinjioyou can do cellpadding="x" and cellspacing="x" in the table, tr, and td tags
17:20.03Pkekyo|eduah, ofcourse...I used 'padding' >.<
17:20.04Pkekyo|educheers dude
17:20.10Zhinjionp
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17:21.01gix-durcyn: yes, of course. but do they filter that by hand then?
17:21.30NeoTronPkekyo|edu: I just use compressed air - seems to work good
17:21.56Pkekyo|eduNeoTron: what you on about?
17:21.59cncfanaticsnevcairiel: how do you update macro textures ?
17:22.05cncfanaticsI'm using OnUpdate atm but it feels ugly :(
17:22.20nevcairielcncfanatics: i use action ids, they fire an event if they need updates :D
17:22.20Zhinjiohmm
17:22.21NeoTronPkekyo|edu: you said you needed more air in your tables. compressed air works wonders!
17:22.28cncfanaticsah, boooo
17:22.29Zhinjiowhat controls the frame strata of a dewdrop menu?
17:22.31cncfanaticsWTB :p
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17:25.42Beherithi there, one question. i want to update my addon to work with 2.4 COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, is there something were i could look up how to use it
17:25.43Snagoevl: Polling ftl
17:25.56evlSnago: This is a reminder addon so it has to poll
17:25.58Beheritgot the problem that this event seems to not happen in my addon
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17:27.29cncfanaticsBeherit: that means either you misspelled it while registering it or your OnEvent handler is wrong
17:27.45dylanmBeherit: http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_Details
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17:32.46Beheritmhm i got a problem with the event handling
17:32.55Beheritits normally registered for my addon
17:33.07Beheritfunction beSch:COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED()  ....   end
17:33.15Beheritthis seems to not work
17:33.39Beheritdo i still need to work with something like beSch:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self) ...?`
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17:42.12cncfanaticsif you're not using ace you'll need an onevent handler Beherit
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17:47.01aestilAntiarc: can you make it so that alt + right click opens omen options?
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17:48.49Stanzillaoptions are right click only
17:49.49ckknighthow's it going, all?
17:50.39durcynckknight: did you see the reports of the new guild position code sending "C" to guild chat?
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17:50.49ckknightyea, the bug that existed for all of 20 minutes
17:50.57durcynah, wasn't sure if it was the same thing
17:52.20ckknightyea, it is
17:53.07Beherithey thx got this working
17:53.36Beheritsaw this line "
17:53.36Beherit<PROTECTED>
17:53.40Beheritdamn sry
17:53.47Gnarfozheh, got that on TeamSpeak as soon as I got on, I suspected correctly that there was SCM instead of SAM in there somewhere ;D
17:53.59Beheritso cant i assign all "argX" things to variables?
17:54.27Vilkkucould someone guide me a bit using .noomnicc to hide the cooldown timer on certain frames? I want to hide the cooldown on one certain mod (not my own) and I need some guiding in what to change/add and where
17:55.22cncfanaticsBeherit: you should read up on events
17:55.28KalrothElsia: an ungrouped shaman put earth shield on my pet and Recount went all nuts :p
17:55.46KalrothElsia: Recount: Source-less heal: Earth ShieldMikeshort Kitaen <Kalr> Please report!
17:56.01Beheritcncfanatics so first check which event has been called and then assign?
17:56.16cncfanaticsyes
17:56.38Beheritcncfanatics yeah but i lets say dont like to work with arg1 and so
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17:57.23cncfanaticsOnEvent(this, Event, whateverIwanttcallarg1, whateverI wanttcallarg2, andsoon)
17:57.25ElsiaKalroth: thanks
17:58.13Zhinjiockknight: quick question: what determines the frame strata of a dewdrop menu? I've got a complaint that the menu is dropping down behind the frame its parented to
17:58.25ckknightI forget
17:59.10Beheritcncfanatics i currently do it like that http://ace.pastey.net/86038
17:59.28cncfanaticsgimme a min to look
17:59.38cncfanaticsmy computer is heavely loaded atm, so it'll take a while to open a browser window lol
17:59.40Beherityeah no problem
17:59.45Beherithehe
17:59.54Vilkkunobody has any info on my omnicc question? =( changelog just says "I now check for .noomnicc on all cooldown frames. If set to true, OmniCC will not show text"
18:00.08cncfanaticsthats bad Behe
18:00.45Beherit:/
18:01.10dylanmVilkku: What more is there to say on the subject? Find the cooldown frame, set the property. Bingo.
18:01.12cncfanaticshttp://ace.pastey.net/86039 would be much better
18:01.27cncfanaticsthe frame name, the event name, and the args get passed to OnEvent
18:03.05Beheritso all arguments of each clevent are always in OnEvent?
18:03.07Vilkkudylanm, does the frame need to be renamed from xxx to xxx.noomnicc, and can I just run "/script xxx.noomnicc = true" from ingame?
18:03.19dylanmIt doesn't need to be renamed.
18:03.31aestilckknight: do you have guild/group positions workign in cart3 yet?
18:03.43ckknightyea, added it early this morning
18:04.39cncfanaticsyes Beherit
18:04.52cncfanaticsand not only of combat log events, of any event in the game
18:04.57cncfanaticsthey're always vpassed to the event handler
18:05.07cncfanaticss/vpassed/passed/
18:05.10dylanmTo stick with the Tuller theme suppose I had an action button named Bongos3Actionbutton1 with corresponding cooldown frame Bongos3ActionButton1Coldown. I'd set Bongos3ActionButton1Coldown.noomnicc = true.
18:05.18dylanmEr, Cooldown.
18:05.20dylanmYou get the idea.
18:05.38Vilkkuokey, I'll try
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18:05.51VilkkuI should be able to set it to true in another addon, right?
18:05.51Beherityeah ok thanks for your help :) need to leave now... gday
18:06.01dylanmYessir.
18:06.43ckknightaestil: http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/58d30f5064789a15c9252700c4c18ff7cf5525af.tar.gz
18:07.31ulicwhat's the best way to time how long it takes a function to execute?
18:08.05ckknightulic: there's a function in WoW. check wowwiki
18:08.22ulicok, cool, thanks
18:08.27PeoiiOk, so interesting quandry... I'm attempting to rotate a portrait by 180 deg directly in the LUA, am I using the right function by calling :SetRotation()?
18:08.56Peoii(3d portrait if it matters at all)
18:08.57ckknight3d portrait or 2d portrait?
18:09.05ckknightokay
18:09.08ckknightshrugs
18:09.54PeoiiIt seems right, it's just not working... which of course leads me back to "is it right?"
18:10.30Fisker-btw ckknight
18:10.36Fisker-i had sex with myself after seeing cartographer 3
18:10.40Fisker-just thought you should know that
18:10.41Fisker-:o
18:10.51ckknightgood times had by all.
18:10.54hydrogenpssh, you were just looking for an excuse
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18:24.06Zeksiewell, different event. same deal
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18:25.39GnarfozZeksie: yeah, I already found ViewAddonMessage on svn and looked at the code... well... it's indeed a one-liner thing ;>
18:25.56Zeksieye :)
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18:27.35CIA-40EasyDND:
18:27.35CIA-40-Updated locs& toc
18:27.35CIA-40-Fixed option listing order
18:27.35CIA-40-Added option to monitor the current DND/AFK modes used on fubar text and Tablet tooltip
18:27.36Merais away, auto-away after 20 minutes (4h 12m 41s ago)
18:27.38CIA-40-Added option to hide yellow addon's messages
18:27.53Zhinjiomaybe Antiarc can throw that into Chatter
18:28.07Zhinjioif its that simple
18:29.46GnarfozZhinjio: I could well make a module of that myself, I think. I should probably try ^^
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18:30.03Zhinjiosweet
18:30.29Gnarfozlol, I just used GatherMate_CartImport and now I'm spamming my entire herb/mining/treasure databases to my Guild ;D
18:31.05Zhinjioheh, I'm just importing my gas extract nodes right now
18:31.09Zhinjiointo gathermate
18:31.31Gnarfozits taking its time, too, but my DB was pretty complete\
18:32.02Noctsrawr
18:36.25ZhinjioI had way more gas nodes than gathermate_data
18:38.29CIA-4003archarodim * r70499 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_DIAG.lua Dcr_opt.lua localization.tw.lua):
18:38.29CIA-40Decursive:
18:38.29CIA-40- Little fixes to previous commit
18:38.29CIA-40- /dcrdiag now checks for spell translations problems
18:38.29CIA-4003krytharn * r70500 10Sort/ (36 files in 13 dirs):
18:38.30CIA-40Sort: initial commit
18:38.31CIA-40-physically sorts your bags. Beta-version, use at your own peril.
18:39.01dylanmMore bag sortin'!
18:40.41durcynwelcome to redundancy, enjoy your stay?
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18:42.39CIA-4003archarodim * r70501 10Decursive/Dcr_DIAG.lua:
18:42.39CIA-40Decursive:
18:42.39CIA-40- Removed libbable-spell from Diagnostic check.
18:44.19kadrahilhate farming fel glands
18:44.20kadrahilHATE
18:44.25Vilkkupfft, I can't get omnicc to filter the frames I want it to whatever I do
18:44.29kadrahilonce i hit exalted that quest is going bye bye
18:44.56ApocoIs there a way to scan a table starting at the end of the table and going upwards?
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18:45.44dylanmAn array, you mean? Start indexing at #t and work your way down?
18:46.07Apocoyeah
18:46.16Apocowould for i=max, 1 do work?
18:46.40cncfanaticsI don't think so
18:46.45cncfanaticsthis would:
18:46.51nevcairielfor i=max, 1, -1 do
18:46.59nevcairiel-1 being the step
18:47.04Apocoyeah
18:47.10cncfanaticslocal i = #t; while i >= 1 do i = i -1; ... end
18:47.11cncfanaticsthat'd also work
18:47.19nevcairielawww fugly while loops
18:47.21cncfanaticsdepends on what you like, I don't like using for loops for that personaly
18:47.30nevcairiellua> for i=10,1,-1 do print(i) end
18:47.30lua_botnevcairiel: 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1
18:47.46cncfanaticslua> local i = #t; while i >= 1 do i = i -1; print(i); end
18:47.46lua_botcncfanatics: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'ï'
18:47.49cncfanaticsups
18:48.07cncfanaticslocal i = 10; while i >= 1 do i = i -1; print(i); end
18:48.19nevcairielusually for loops should always be used if you know the number of iterations already
18:48.24nevcairielcompilers can just optimize that better
18:48.26CIA-4003krytharn * r70502 10Sort/ (. libs/): Sort: -removed libs, they are external now
18:48.58Apocoyeah
18:49.05cncfanaticsdoes the lua compiler optimize now ? :o
18:49.14nevcairielno
18:49.21nevcairielwell probably to some extend
18:49.25nevcairielbut not that it matters
18:49.37nevcairielbut what you do here, you probably do in a real programming language too
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18:50.34nevcairielckknight: LibGuildPositions needs a callback for "guild member position changed" :P
18:51.24nevcairielI dont want to poll it every second or so
18:51.32Apoco:(
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18:55.30Starinniacan you guys think of an encounter when you need to misdirect to another hunter?
18:55.45GeloAnyone could tell me an addon that taints ?
18:56.00GeloAnything just need to test if log works or not
18:56.48GeloLet me rephrase that, what's the easiest way to check if taint log works
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18:57.14nevcairielget in combat and do /script CastSpellByName("<some spell you have>")
18:57.27durcynset taintlog to 2 and you'll get blizzard tainting itself
18:58.25CIA-4003ammo 07LibBars-1.0 * r70503 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: fix some upgrading issues
18:58.42Gnarfozwhat durcyn said ^^
18:59.20GnarfozI've been spamming my GatherMate data to guild for 30 minutes now, and no end in sight, lol
18:59.53NeoTron~seen Antiarc
19:00.00purlantiarc is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'But I write them with the assumption that ace is already installed standalone'.
19:00.24NeoTronAntiarc: will/does LibBars support individual coloring options for different bars?
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19:00.55Gelonevcairiel, that made wow create a taint.log file but nothing in it
19:01.17AntiarcNeoTron: If you don't put them in a group, sure
19:01.27NeoTronhrm but I want them grouped :P
19:01.28AntiarcActually, yes, it does
19:01.36AntiarcYou can call :SetColor on individual bars
19:02.11ckknightnevcairiel: it was meant to be a passive thing where you check every second or however long. I suppose I could add a callback system...
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19:04.22NeoTroncool
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19:07.56ckknightNeoTron: I recommend trying out Cart3 if you haven't yet. It's pretty shiny
19:08.26kadrahilbut doez it zoom???????
19:08.28SnagoIf I do UnitRace(unit) on a nelf do I get "Night elf" or "Night Elf"?
19:09.55hydrogenI believe it returns "Clearly, a bad player"
19:10.16ckknightSnago: "Night Elf", "NightElf"
19:10.23ckknightfirst one is localized
19:10.29ckknightkadrahil: of course
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19:11.57Polarinackknight: I'm using Cartographer 3 constantly. :D
19:11.57ckknightI wish there were some way to refer to instances in a locale-independent way ingame
19:12.02ckknightwithout requiring Babble
19:12.17ckknightPolarina: hehe, it's getting close to being actually usable
19:12.26Polarinackknight: It's usable for me.
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19:12.43ckknightwell, any feedback is useful
19:12.51Polarinackknight: Routes works with it.
19:12.56ckknightsure does
19:13.51CIA-4003starinnia * r70504 10SimpleMD/SimpleMD.lua:
19:13.52CIA-40SimpleMD:
19:13.52CIA-40-slight tweak to cooldown broadcast (only do it when grouped)
19:13.52CIA-40-Adjust MD capture code so if you misdirect a hunter there will not be dual bars
19:13.52CIA-40-Adjust MD fade code so misdirected hunters do not trigger the faded event
19:13.52CIA-4003ckknight * r70505 10Cartographer/Cartographer_GuildPositions/Cartographer_GuildPositions.toc: Cartographer_GuildPositions - add LibGuildPositions-1.0 to optionaldeps
19:15.36CIA-4003krytharn * r70506 10Sort/Sort.lua: Sort: -always move trash items to the last slots
19:15.44ckknightokay, any Cartographer3 feedback can go on the jira, Cartographer project, Cartographer3 component
19:18.47Silviu-ckknight where is it ?
19:18.49Silviu-trunk ?
19:18.51Silviu-branches ?
19:19.22ckknightpurl, Cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component
19:19.22purlckknight: okay
19:19.27ckknight~Cartographer3
19:19.27purlhmm... cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component
19:19.31ckknightokay
19:20.09ckknightpurl, no Cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component
19:20.10purlckknight: okay
19:20.13ckknightthere we are
19:20.14Vangualhmm, my routes don't show on carto3
19:20.23ckknightVangual: it should with the most recent version of Cart3
19:20.28Silviu-Nice thank u
19:20.38Vanguali updated 5 mins ago from gitorious
19:20.49Vangualis there any option screen or so?
19:20.51ckknightVangual: and using trunk Routes?
19:20.55Vangualyes
19:20.59ckknightit should just work automagically
19:21.25Vangualin all somewhat close zoom levels?
19:22.00ckknightafter hovering on a zone, it should show the routes on that zone fine, just like the normal world map would
19:22.23Vangualhmm i had both carto2 and 3 active, trying with only carto3 loaded
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19:22.57Vangualah nice
19:23.06Vangualroutes visible, node-icons not tho
19:23.51durcynthey should be both visible and -huge- based on what I saw earlier
19:24.02Vangualgathermate is doing node icon display as the carto gathering module replacement nowadays, yes?
19:24.22ckknightGatherMate worked fine for me...
19:24.40Vangualnot use gathermate yet, trying with it activated
19:24.45Vangualnot using*
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19:25.23Zhinjiogod I feel so much better now after some food.
19:25.38Vangualnice, working well
19:25.43Zhinjio83 downloads, 8 new bugs in jira. '
19:25.46Zhinjioso far so good.
19:27.05Daemonatargets Funkeh` with a semi-large omnipotent nuke-weapon.
19:27.42DaemonaFunkeh` what did you do to BadBoy? if i manually try to report someone, it always reports the last auto-reported person?
19:27.43Daemona...
19:27.46Daemonabad hook dude
19:27.48Apocofound a bug in  AceConfigDialog3 ><
19:28.11ckknightanyone fancy themselves as artistic?
19:28.14Funkeh`Daemona, nope, it just displays that
19:28.27Daemonaaha... should it display that?
19:28.30Daemonai dont think so ;)
19:28.32Funkeh`yes
19:28.41Zhinjiockknight: meh. somewhat.
19:28.53Funkeh`theres no other way to make it display who you report without sacrificing that
19:28.54buuOk, I'm sure this questioni has been asked before, but since I don't know the answer.. what's a good modern replacement for Jim's Cooldown Pulse?
19:29.00ckknightZhinjio: what're your thoughts on Cartographer's party, raid, and guild member icons?
19:29.11Zhinjiocart2, I assume?
19:29.45Vangualbuu: "ghost: pulse"
19:30.07buuVangual: Er.. what? Link?
19:30.11Zhinjiockknight: looking at them now...s tandby
19:30.18Vangualbuu: wowinterface -> search for ghost
19:30.35ckknightZhinjio: one thing I'm going to do is make larger, sharper versions of them, at least
19:30.36buuAh, nifty.
19:30.40ckknightunless I change how they look entirely
19:31.58NeoTronAntiarc: so this is weird. I have a bar that I remove and it remains but with smaller text..
19:32.12Zhinjioso I'm looking at the double circle for guild, single circle for party, and numbered circles for raid, yes?
19:32.26ckknight<PROTECTED>
19:32.33Gnarfozis it possible to cancel a BigWigs CustomBar? (synced)
19:32.36Funkeh`Daemona, did it miss something
19:32.45Daemonanot yet ;)
19:32.46Funkeh`Gnarfoz, start it again with a time of 0
19:32.48NeoTronAntiarc: so yeah, you forgot to Hide() the bar when it's released ;-)
19:32.55ckknightZhinjio: and since they're white, I color them based on class
19:32.56Zhinjiohmm
19:33.02GnarfozFunkeh`: does that work for /bwcb also?
19:33.06Zhinjioyeah, I've seen that.
19:33.10Funkeh`ofc
19:33.53Zhinjioso what are you considering? scratching them entirely if you can come up with something better?
19:34.43ckknightwell, if I can
19:34.51Daemonacould you expand the blacklist Funkeh` ? to Dirge and Staff of Jordan ? ;)
19:34.55ckknightbut I'm entirely an uncreative person
19:34.59CIA-4003elsia * r70507 10Recount/ (6 files):
19:34.59CIA-40Recount:
19:35.00CIA-40- LazySync overhaul. Hopefully deleting mid-session should no longer interfere now. Feedback wanted.
19:35.00CIA-40- Removed obsolete healing correction and elemental handling code.
19:35.07ckknightI came up with those original icons
19:35.44Zhinjiolemme poke around for a few minutes and see if I can find anything that looks cool
19:35.50ckknightcool
19:36.41nevcairielhm apparently noone in my guild updated Carto today
19:36.47nevcairieli dont get LGP broadcasts
19:36.51nevcairieldamn i need test subjects =P
19:37.19ckknightnevcairiel: what server and faction?
19:37.45Zhinjiockknight: for reference, I'm looking through google images searching for "map legend"
19:37.50ckknightwait, you're EU anyway, nvm
19:38.00ckknightZhinjio: ah, google
19:38.12Fisker-oh hai nevcairiel
19:38.39Fisker-EU is cruise control for awesome
19:38.48Fisker-except they don't care about our community of course
19:38.52Fisker-but other than that
19:38.54Fisker-awesum
19:39.15nevcairielckknight: you sure its working already? *shrug* i loged in on the acc of a friend with the lib enabled and i dont get anything when i Iterate
19:39.33ckknightyea, I tested it with one person just running the lib, and me on both Cart2 and Cart3
19:39.43ckknight(not at the same time)
19:40.03nevcairielgets a full addon msg dumping thing
19:40.05Fisker-calls nevcairiel an ood
19:40.29vithosis there any trick to making wow open fullscreen windowed on the non-default monitor?
19:40.58vithosi can't even get nvidia's desktop management crap to do it
19:42.26ckknightZhinjio: btw, I'm not against having different images to provide more information, but I'm not sure what info to convey outside of class, group number, under attack, offline, and dead
19:42.34ckknightand everything but group number I do by color
19:42.59Fisker-You could have this rainbow colour system where any tiny piece of information is indicated by a colour
19:43.03Fisker-which noone knows of course
19:43.19nevcairielckknight: i am definately not getting anything with the prefix LGP
19:43.37ckknightnevcairiel: are you in a guild with >= 2 people (including yourself) in it?
19:43.43nevcairielyes
19:43.49ckknight:-(
19:43.54ckknightany errors or anything?
19:44.15aestilckknight: i dunno, i can't want the window up all the time
19:44.27ckknightaestil: um, what?
19:44.28aestilif i make it small like a minimap, its... a minimap.
19:44.31aestilwhich i have.
19:44.41Fisker-what do you mean?
19:45.07Fisker-lol
19:45.14Fisker-forgot to disable normal cartographer
19:45.17Fisker-now you can zoom in on the frame
19:45.20syerenckknight, how can I revert the colors in Pitbull :)?
19:45.20ckknightnevcairiel: check if you're sending messages?
19:45.25syerenif you could tell me please :p
19:45.28syerenI want the old colors back >_<
19:45.38ckknightsyeren: uh ...
19:45.38Arrowmasterckknight: im not even sending anything with a LGP prefix
19:45.49ckknightArrowmaster: is LibGuildPositions-1.0 loaded?
19:46.03Arrowmasteryes
19:46.47nevcairielhow do you check if you are sending heh?
19:47.33Arrowmasteri use a modified version of ViewAddonMessage
19:48.06kalahassiwhy  is it modified?
19:48.10ckknightmy guess is that something with ChatThrottleLib is being funky
19:48.12nevcairielckknight: i added some debug ChatFram1:AddMessage in the SendMessage, its not even reaching that :)
19:48.15Arrowmasterbecause i added features i wanted
19:48.17ckknighthang on, I'll get to the bottom of it
19:48.20Fisker-btw
19:48.29Fisker-am i the only who's getting cowtip errors when cartographer is disabled?
19:48.31ckknightnevcairiel: that SendMessage can get replaced
19:48.41nevcairielckknight: i did it in both versions
19:50.48nevcairielthe ass-long if must be broken
19:51.21nevcairielone and should be a or
19:51.23nevcairieli think
19:52.14nevcairielor rather, you never set last_sendTime =P
19:53.40Pkekyo|meh...not sure wether or not I should watch Requiem For A Dream :/
19:54.54Chompersckknight, your cart3 site
19:55.02ckknightnevcairiel: I think my logic is wrong :-P
19:55.17nevcairielyeah i couldnt really figure out how it should work
19:55.19Chompersdo i download each file individually, or would i use a GIT program
19:55.25nevcairielbut its 10pm and i had a beer or two :P
19:55.44ckknightChompers: use git or "Download gzipped tarball" at the bottom
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19:57.33CIA-4003ckknight * r70508 10LibGuildPositions-1.0/LibGuildPositions-1.0.lua:
19:57.33CIA-40LibGuildPositions-1.0 - fix a logic error in sending positions
19:57.33CIA-40- don't receive messages from yourself
19:57.33CIA-40- make sure to actually set the last sent time
19:58.47ckknightnevcairiel: that should do it
19:59.02ckknightnevcairiel: I'll add CallbackHandler to it as well, I'm thinking
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19:59.47nevcairielyeah i receive stuff i think
20:02.13DaemonaFunkeh` -> http://ace.pastey.net/86045
20:07.04Apocolua> local t = {[1] = "Apoco", [3] = "Norse", [5] = "Paste"}; for i, name in ipairs(t) do if t[i] and not t[i-1] then table.remove(t, i); table.insert(t, i-1, name); end print(t)
20:07.04lua_botApoco: luabot:1: 'end' expected near '<eof>'
20:07.14Apocolua> local t = {[1] = "Apoco", [3] = "Norse", [5] = "Paste"}; for i, name in ipairs(t) do if t[i] and not t[i-1] then table.remove(t, i); table.insert(t, i-1, name); end end print(t)
20:07.14lua_botApoco: table: 0x63d7d0
20:07.25CIA-4003funkydude * r70509 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: add to blacklist
20:07.51Apocolua> local t = {[1] = "Apoco", [3] = "Norse", [5] = "Paste"}; for i, name in ipairs(t) do if t[i] and not t[i-1] then table.remove(t, i); table.insert(t, i-1, name); end end do print(t) end
20:07.51lua_botApoco: table: 0x63d7d0
20:07.53Apocowtf
20:08.53Apocolua> local t = {[1] = "Apoco", [3] = "Norse", [5] = "Paste"}; for i, name in ipairs(t) do if t[i] and not t[i-1] then table.remove(t, i); table.insert(t, i-1, name); end end for i, name in pairs(t) do print(i); print(name); end
20:08.54lua_botApoco: 0, Apoco, 3, Norse, 5, Paste
20:09.17Apocolua> local t = {[1] = "Apoco", [3] = "Norse", [5] = "Paste"}; for i, name in ipairs(t) do if t[i] and not t[i-1] then table.remove(t, i); table.insert(t, i-1, name); end end for i, name in ipairs(t) do print(i); print(name); end
20:09.17lua_botApoco: No output
20:09.24Apocobleh
20:10.18Apocolua> local t = {[1] = "Apoco", [3] = "Norse", [5] = "Paste"}; for i, name in pairs(t) do if t[i] and not t[i-1] then table.remove(t, i); table.insert(t, i-1, name); end end for i, name in ipairs(t) do print(i); print(name); end
20:10.19lua_botApoco: invalid key to 'next'
20:10.32cncfanaticsApoco: l2WHISPER
20:10.36Apocobleh
20:10.39Apocodidnt know it did whispers
20:10.39Apoco:p
20:10.44cncfanaticsofc it does, its a bot
20:10.45Chompersckknight: cart3 is sexy as hell
20:10.52Apocosome don't :(
20:11.02ckknightChompers: any feedback?
20:11.14Chompersyou totally need a live view at max zoom :P
20:11.22Chompersso you can watch people afking in IF
20:12.08Chompersperhaps some sort of blending between maps? the shatt map looks weird compared to the maps around it
20:12.13Chompersbeing square and all
20:12.17ckknightyea...
20:12.23ckknightshrugs
20:12.27ckknightnot much I can do about that, really.
20:12.31Chompersblended alpha edges or something
20:13.46Chompersawesome how it keeps the previous map shown on mouseover
20:14.23Chompersany chance of adding instance maps to it?
20:14.29ckknightyea, I plan to do that
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20:15.16aestilckknight: i'd rather this
20:15.24Chompershmm, how about adding a sort of 'trail' for guild positions
20:15.26aestilmake it so that its always up, and functions as the minimap
20:15.30Chompersthat 'decay' over time
20:15.32aestiland when i push m, it comes up as the map
20:15.38ckknightChompers: trails are complex :-P
20:15.42Chomperstrue
20:15.43aestiland i can zoom and whatever, and escape/close makes it go back to minimap
20:15.45CIA-4003elsia * r70510 10Recount/ (ResizeGripLeft.tga ResizeGripRight.tga):
20:15.45CIA-40Recount:
20:15.45CIA-40- Missing grip images.
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20:16.06ckknightaestil: I was actually planning on it switching states between small and big with 'M'
20:17.00Chompersperhaps combine kalimdor and eastern kingdoms too
20:17.09Chompersso you can have old world and new world side by side
20:17.40Chompersyou'd have to have an extra level of zoom for that though, to compensate
20:19.50ckknightthat doesn't look all that great, Chompers
20:20.05Chompersworks for the default map :O
20:20.12ckknightbasically, I'd overlay the Azeroth map with the two continent maps (in order to show the zone lines and all)
20:20.28ckknightbut there are artistic features that'd look a bit weird, the water wouldn't match correctly, etc.
20:20.35Chomperstrue
20:21.07Chompershow about little nodes for important things
20:21.19ckknighte.g.?
20:21.24Chompersgoogle maps has them for landmarks, you could have them for instance locations or bosses
20:21.39Chomperswith a little popup containing the bosses loot, maybe a picture
20:22.07Chompers*instance entrances
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20:27.43ckknightoh, I was basically planning on having buttons on the map
20:27.49ckknightfor instance entrances
20:27.55ckknightthat would zoom you to the instance itself
20:28.06ckknight(which'd be to the side, kinda like its own continent)
20:28.42Chomperssounds good
20:28.52Chompersi'm trying to move away from menus and such
20:29.08ckknightyea, I want Cart3 to not have much in the way of menus
20:29.10Chompersthey're great and all, but it would be awesome of everything was done on the map
20:29.12Chompersyeah
20:29.13ckknightjust a few buttons on the bottom
20:29.26Arrowmasterwould each instance have a button at the entrance than to take you back outside?
20:29.27ckknightlike the Z and P buttons (which will become real images one day)
20:29.29Chompersatlasloot is an example of menu crazyness
20:29.33Fisker-hmm
20:29.36ckknightArrowmaster: yea, that's what I'm thinking
20:29.37Fisker-is the fileserver overloaded?
20:29.51kenlyricbe nice if you could just click on the instance on the world map :)
20:29.53ckknightChompers: well, I want to provide the ability to go to the instance or zone with a menu
20:30.01Fisker-the guild positions thingy haven't gotten through 2 updates now
20:30.02ckknightkenlyric: yep, I want that.
20:30.03Fisker-:o
20:30.08Chompersquick access, got you
20:30.11ckknightFisker-: did you update?
20:30.15Fisker-yeah
20:30.34Fisker-you commited 21:57, and it didn't get in the 22:00 and 22:20 updates?
20:31.59ckknightsometimes that can happen
20:32.04ckknightseems odd, though
20:32.11Chompersckknight: unrelated but check out a film called [Rec] if you get the chance
20:32.13Chompershttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt1038988/
20:32.45ckknighthrm, okay
20:33.11Fisker-this skews the whole concept of reality
20:33.15KalrothChompers: go for http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0856288/ instead ;)
20:33.15Fisker-a lake was misplaced on the wowmap
20:33.19kenlyrici wonder if there are any other useful values to send to the centertexts in grid
20:33.58kenlyricor maybe I should dive right into bulkmail
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20:34.13ckknightFisker-: ?
20:34.24KalrothChompers: Is there an uhhh, internet backup available for [Rec]? :)
20:34.57Chompershaha
20:35.00Chompersi think so
20:35.15Fisker-ckknight i mean designwise
20:35.19Fisker-not an addon problem :P
20:35.24ckknightah
20:35.25ckknight:-P
20:36.20Fisker-i wonder if you could find the gm island
20:36.38ckknightit's far northwest
20:36.48cncfanaticsits instanced now
20:36.48ckknightI don't include it in Cart3
20:36.53cncfanaticsso you can't get in I think
20:37.06Fisker-spoilsport
20:37.09ckknightcause I chop off the unused minimap textures on the sides
20:37.22cncfanaticsckknight: would you see it on the map if you didn't ?
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20:37.30ckknightcncfanatics: sure would.
20:37.40cncfanaticshmmm, you sure ? thats a bit of a giveaway on its location
20:37.48ckknightyes, I'm 100% sure
20:38.32Arrowmasterwe should come up with an instancemap standard
20:38.40ckknighthow do you mean?
20:38.44ChompersLibInstanceMaps
20:38.52ckknightI'm not against it.
20:39.02Arrowmasterbasicly just use the same maps in everything
20:39.05Chaudneedmoarlibs.
20:39.14Arrowmasterso that notes are the same
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20:39.57ckknightwell, that's why I made my pack.lua script support Atlas as well as Cart :-P
20:40.12Arrowmasteryeah but atlas never started using it
20:40.15ckknighttrue
20:40.17Zhinjiopings ckknight
20:40.21Zhinjiogo look...
20:40.25Arrowmasteratlas still uses images
20:40.33cncfanaticsit does ? :o
20:40.38cncfanaticsfree bandwith ftw :p
20:41.18Arrowmasterckknight: what kinda encoding does LibGuildPositions use?
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20:41.51Arrowmasterand its still broken
20:41.58ckknightArrowmaster: the code's pretty simple. "C" means clear, "P", x_1, x_2, y_1, y_2, zone_length, zone_str is the position
20:42.14ckknightstill broken?
20:42.22Arrowmasterstanding in shatt and CGP is sending out constant requests with map open, LGP only sends out when i move i think
20:42.34cncfanaticsg'night peeps, going to bed
20:42.51ckknightArrowmaster: true
20:43.12ckknightArrowmaster: every 10 seconds (increasing with the amount of online guildies), if you've moved since the last send, it'll send your new position
20:43.19PaeneIs there an Ace3 version of candybar?
20:43.23Arrowmasteris this at all times?
20:43.25ckknightPaene: LibBar
20:43.29ckknightArrowmaster: yes
20:43.34Arrowmasterah
20:43.37ckknightArrowmaster: it's not a request-based system as before
20:43.44ckknightit's a broadcast system
20:43.47durcynLibBars is still under development though, Paene, I wouldn't try to use it in a production addon
20:43.53ckknightwhich Cart3 kinda requires :-[
20:43.54Paenekk
20:43.56Paenethanks
20:44.41Arrowmasterckknight: maybe make it send your possition again faster than every 10 seconds if youve moved a large distance
20:44.57ckknightI don't want to overload the stream...
20:45.13Chompersdon't cross them too
20:45.18ckknight...lol
20:45.22Chompers:/
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20:46.16Kalrothckknight: couldn't you optimize the coordinate update to use a defined set of zone names and just send the index? instead of "11Zangarmarsh"
20:46.17benI just tried out cartographer 3 and it is v. awesome
20:46.24Pkekyo|fucking knew I shouldn't have watched requiem for a dream >.<
20:46.53durcynPkekyo|: ass to ass >
20:47.10Chompersi'm up for that
20:47.10Arrowmasteroh wtf
20:47.14Chomperswait...what?
20:47.15Pkekyo|durcyn: wha?
20:47.17ckknightKalroth: I'd prefer not to, cause I don't want to update it with the new expansion or anything
20:47.20durcynrequiem for a dream, man
20:47.23durcynoh, right, you didn't watch it.
20:47.26ckknightass to ass!
20:47.28Pkekyo|I am watching it now
20:47.28Arrowmasteryou can use cyrillic in chat on enUS
20:47.37Pkekyo|and I knew I shouldn't
20:47.39Kalrothckknight: well all the ace addons (that are used) are updated regulary anyways
20:47.39ckknightdurcyn: I actually know one of the guys in that scene
20:47.41Arrowmasteri swear blizzards font shit is so weird
20:47.42Pkekyo|fucks me up every time
20:47.57ckknightKalroth: it's future-proofing :-P
20:48.14Kalrothckknight: it's also clogging the stream!
20:48.14Arrowmasterckknight: what are you using then?
20:48.27ckknightArrowmaster: what do you mean?
20:48.28Kalrothhe's sending the text name of the zone
20:48.38ckknightI send the map texture
20:48.49Arrowmasterok good
20:48.54ckknightso "Azeroth" for the Eastern Kingdoms ;-)
20:49.55Arrowmasterand Ogrimmar for Org
20:50.22ckknightyea
20:50.29ckknightand Expansion01 for Outland ;-)
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20:51.07Arrowmasterill have to check the LGP code later
20:51.42[Liquidor]Hmm what do you guys use to listen to web radio with?
20:51.55CIA-4003funkydude * r70511 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: tweak
20:52.14Arrowmasterfoobar2000
20:53.11hydrogennp: Live - They Stood Up for Love [The Distance to Here] (diabme69's Neighbor Radio (last.fm)) (Amarok 2.0-SVN)
20:53.53Chompersare you clogging my tubes ckk?
20:53.57Chompersthat makes me very sad
20:54.06Chomperswe have to save the tubes for the big trucks
20:54.50ckknightArrowmaster: please do
20:55.03ckknightArrowmaster: note: I plan to add callbacks in
20:56.16Elsiawhat can I do if svn commit got hosed mid-adding an item... keeps yelling now for both commits and updates that an item is queued to be added but it's already on the svn
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20:58.54Elsiameh I'm hosed
20:59.15Elsiacan neither commit or update on recount due to an item already added but it being somehow inconsistent
21:00.27durcynElsia: cleanup?
21:00.34Elsiadone a few times already
21:01.00CIA-4003elsia * r70512 10Recount/LazySync.lua:
21:01.00CIA-40Recount:
21:01.00CIA-40- Fixed lazy sync errors. Hope this commit works now :P
21:01.02Elsiaphew, reverting worked :P
21:01.36CIA-4003funkydude * r70513 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: BigWigs: Sunwell/Felmyst: tweak
21:05.17aestilckknight: where are the options?
21:05.33ckknightaestil: ah, there aren't really options yet
21:05.41aestilok.
21:05.45aestilwhen you double click a city
21:05.52aestilit shouldn't zoom to minimap level
21:06.13ckknightwell, it depends on how big your map is
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21:08.30aestili'd rather that it let me if i wanted to, but otherwise it just zooms yo full?
21:08.32BenumbedIs there a callback for when a module is enabled/disabled like there is for when a profile is changed?
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21:09.18dylanmBenumbed: Ace3?
21:09.21Benumbedyes
21:09.27Arrowmasteryes
21:09.38ckknightaestil: I'll be adding an option
21:09.51Benumbedknow offhand what it is?
21:10.02Benumbedlooked through AceAddon but dont see any
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21:10.22dylanmUh well there's OnEnable/OnDisable.
21:10.29aestilckknight: can you throw in like, static instance maps
21:10.35Benumbedyeah I really dont want to use those
21:10.40aestiljust as a placeholder
21:10.40NeoTronAntiarc: man I got a very basic version of Magictargets working using LibBars. handy
21:10.43dylanmWh... why
21:10.47ckknightaestil: what do you mean?
21:10.58aestilin an instance now, the zone map comes up.
21:11.20Benumbedwant to do things depending on which modules are enabled/disabled and not have it in each OnEnable etc
21:11.21ckknightyea, I'll be adding instance maps later
21:11.36aestillater today? ;)
21:12.28dylanmThen that is an issue for whatever you're using to do the disabling, I guess.
21:12.30benckknight: I want it to switch to minimap graphics earlier <:(
21:12.51ckknightben: there's a Blizzard bug that occurs when you see too many textures on the screen at once
21:12.55Benumbednot really an issue, just dont want to have to put the code or call another function inside every module
21:13.04ckknightmakes my FPS go from 120 to 2
21:13.05Benumbedso i can just monitor for the callback and iterate thru modules
21:13.24dylanmI mean but what is going to disable a module
21:13.41benckknight: I am not sure I follow
21:13.59ckknightif you were to see too many of those minimap textures, it will kill your system
21:14.04BenumbedA user will or if the module is not for their class etc
21:14.17CIA-4003kenlyric 07kenlyric * r70514 10BulkMail2/: BulkMail2: Please don't explode.
21:14.21benHow many textures do you need to show a single zone?
21:14.44BenumbedI could just make it call a function in every OnDisable just was hoping for callback since kinda pointless
21:15.02CIA-4003elsia * r70515 10Recount/LazySync.lua:
21:15.02CIA-40Recount:
21:15.02CIA-40- Check for old versions for "PS" sync messages.
21:15.06ckknightben: each texture is 533 1/3 yards in width and height
21:15.13ckknightben: each zone has a different width and height
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21:16.10benAlso can we get a cooler player arrow 8)
21:16.27Cryectmake one for him then
21:16.41Starlon_Why is this bad? http://ace.pastey.net/86048 it causes a stack overflow if self.OnUpdate is nil
21:17.45Cryectuh
21:17.56Cryectwhy would self.OnUpdate = nil if that runs?
21:18.02dylanmIf it's nil then that function doesn't exist...?
21:18.30CryectHow are you using that Test:OnUpdate?
21:18.32starlonmaybe I should rename it
21:18.32CIA-4003nicksmith * r70516 10TMrecruit/Core.lua: TMrecruit: you can addsome on with lowercase and it will change to Name and not leave name
21:19.06Cryectalso
21:19.17Cryectare you sure its not stack overflow when its not nil?
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21:19.31Cryectbecause if its not nil then it keeps calling self:OnUpdate
21:19.32Cryectconstantly
21:19.35starlonwell, this is a oUF layout
21:19.36Cryect<PROTECTED>
21:19.37Cryect3if self.timeSinceLastUpdate > 0.05 then
21:19.48starlonself is the unit frame
21:19.50Cryectthat will always be true
21:20.25Cryectwell once its true its always true that is
21:20.26[Liquidor]ckknight, first load: http://i25.tinypic.com/e5idkx.jpg
21:20.30starlonself.timeSinceLastUpdate = 0;
21:20.32Cryectthen it keeps recursively calling itself
21:20.39Cryect<PROTECTED>
21:20.40Cryect5self.timeSinceLastUpdate = 0;  
21:20.47Cryectyou set it to 0 after recursively calling it first
21:20.54Cryectso it never gets set to 0 before calling itself again
21:21.03starlonthis isn't calling this OnUpdate
21:21.21starlonit's not recursive
21:21.21ckknightI believe I fixed that one, [Liquidor]
21:21.27CryectThen why would you call it Test:OnUpdate?
21:21.44Cryectare you meaning to call the unitframes script for OnUpdate?
21:21.51starlonself is a frame, not the addon
21:22.26Cryectthen I would implicitly would put Test.OnUpdate(self, elapsed) since gives the perception that it is the frame
21:22.41Cryectanyways kinda strange
21:23.11Cryectseems you want to do self:GetScript("OnUpdate")
21:23.24Cryectwell I guess you are overriding the old OnUpdate
21:23.29Cryectso trying to do a hook
21:23.31starlonwell maybe self is the addon :\
21:23.38HjalteElsia: Any of those commits suppose to fix boss toggle?
21:23.53[Liquidor]yo ckknight, lemme make a vid of it
21:24.00ckknightare you updated?
21:24.01Elsiathey are supposed to fix the wrong damage data when people delete mid-raid
21:24.06[Liquidor]Nope
21:24.10Elsiawhat's the boss toggle problem again?
21:24.12ckknightdo that first
21:24.14[Liquidor]I took a package from the channel log
21:24.17ckknight~cartographer3
21:24.18purlsomebody said cartographer3 was the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component
21:24.20[Liquidor]Well I don't have any git client
21:24.27ckknightyea, which is why the second link is there
21:24.28[Liquidor]kk
21:24.31[Liquidor]yeye
21:24.40CIA-4003elsia * r70517 10Recount/LazySync.lua:
21:24.40CIA-40Recount:
21:24.40CIA-40- Safeguard against outdated ooc syncs.
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21:25.40HjalteElsia: The boss toggle problem is, to me at least, that Recount seems to sometime not recognize a boss, making me unable to show anything but overall data, no matter what I actually choose. Happened at Supremus the other day.
21:26.13ElsiaHjalte: that's not boss related but yeah I'll have to find that one... very hard to reproduce unfortunately, so I still don't know when it happens
21:26.48Elsiain other words it works fine for me, which is bad :Ü
21:26.53[Liquidor]ckknight, no alpha on textures?
21:27.01ckknightwhich textures?
21:27.05[Liquidor]map
21:27.12HjalteElsia: So you have keep only boss fights turned on, and it never fails?
21:27.13ckknightnot yet
21:27.37ElsiaHjalte: precisely, I look at Bloodboil and gorefiend attempts just now
21:28.13Elsialets see, gonna go for mother, maybe I get lucky and it'll bug out :P
21:28.20HjalteElsia: When I turn it off, Recount works just fine, except for the problems you might just have fixed :)
21:29.01[Liquidor]ckknight, no detailed version of IF
21:29.02Elsiathe combat segmentation issue you mention is not related to bosses, it's in the segmentation
21:29.03[Liquidor]:-/
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21:29.16ckknightokay, use the jira
21:29.24ElsiaI'll see if I can trace it down, you do anything specific, like mostly use current fights or anything like that?
21:29.27ckknightI can't remember everything
21:29.35HjalteElsia: After the Supremus fight, I was able to choose between overall data, current fight and fight 1: supremus as usual, but they all showed overall data. Do have in mind that I might have deleted all data earlier during the run or switched boss toggle on and off.
21:29.43[Liquidor]ckknight, your brain is big... BIG
21:29.47HjalteElsia: I usually have Recount on current fight.
21:30.01ElsiaHjalte: there used to be an update bug, but that should be fixed
21:30.06Elsialet me know if it works now
21:30.36HjalteElsia: I'm raiding two times tommorow, I should be able to do some testing there.
21:30.37Elsiai.e. it didn't refresh the main window when switching fights, but taht was fixed 2 days ago or so at least
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21:32.14HjalteElsia: It could have been that bug I guess, seeing as it showed me the same data no matter what fight i chose.
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21:32.55HjalteThe raid where i experienced it was thursdays raid.
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21:33.10ElsiaHjalte: yes was very likely that so it should be fixed now
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21:34.26HjalteMy warlock is now 350 leatherworking. That makes me a musician, I guess :)
21:34.49Elsia;)
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21:43.02kalahassimhmm why do i get librockcomm messages from people i dont know?
21:44.37kalahassithey arent on my friendlist, and in my guild neither
21:45.01Stanzillatalent queries?
21:45.02Zeksieprolly talent queries on mouseover or something
21:46.17[Liquidor]ffs
21:46.32[Liquidor]so im making this small vid of Cartographer3 then I get killed in the background :>
21:46.50Zeksieheh
21:47.52kenlyricshould have gotten someone to rez you off camera
21:47.58kenlyric"cart3, it raises the dead"
21:48.13[Liquidor]heh
21:48.18JJSheetslol
21:48.30aestilckknight: why did you leave the group?
21:48.46ckknightaestil: I'm in group 8
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21:49.37CIA-4003jjsheets * r70519 10InfiniBar-2.0/IB_ButtonTypes.lua: InfiniBar-2.0 - Fixed some Cooldown issues.
21:49.38chiper_Zeksie!
21:50.32aestiloh, good.
21:50.35aestilwhere you bleong.
21:50.37chiper_is it possible to add weapon oils to ZOMG yet?
21:51.29ckknightaestil: okay, now I left cause nobody was left on the map
21:51.48GeloWhat's the name of the roll frame(s) ?
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21:52.06CIA-40AutoProfitX:
21:52.06CIA-40- updated to use LibBabble 3.0 modules
21:52.06CIA-40- toc bump (seems to be working fine)
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21:54.29[Liquidor]uhm
21:54.34sylvanaarcan someone fix prat for me - the LibBabbleZone thing
21:54.34BeowuIfI am sorry if I am breaching any code of conduct for the channel
21:54.42[Liquidor]what site should I upload the video of Cartographer3 to?
21:54.54[Liquidor]Used to use Stage6 but RIP :(
21:55.01BeowuIfwhom should I ask about a problem I have with TankPoints?
21:55.11aestilwe are in an instance. :(
21:55.17[Liquidor]BeowuIf, prolly the author
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21:56.08BeowuIfI couldn't find any forum where I could post about it
21:58.13Apocothen he probably doesn't care if there are problems with it
21:58.15Apoco:(
21:58.21Apococheck the .toc for an email addy
21:59.20Matrix110[Liquidor] if youtube in "HD" mode isnt enough just upload it to Filefront people that dont need the better Quality watch shitty stream rest can download it
21:59.29CIA-4003jjsheets * r70521 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua:
21:59.29CIA-40ButtonFacade:
21:59.29CIA-40<PROTECTED>
21:59.45[Liquidor]I hate both
22:00.00BeowuIfoh well thanks for the help. I will try emailing the author
22:00.12[Liquidor]Anyway gonna compress it first. 1.6gb is a big too much :)
22:00.14Matrix110well there is not much other services:P
22:00.21Matrix110Veoh etc. arent much better
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22:00.52Matrix110google video is quite nice though
22:01.09CIA-4003gamefaq * r70522 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Twins.lua: BigWigs: - Sunwell/Twins deDE Local Added
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22:01.35[Liquidor]gah
22:01.43[Liquidor]cant remember the settings needed for virtual dub
22:02.13Matrix110trying fraps -> xvid?
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22:04.28[Liquidor]Yup ready in 9min
22:06.01Matrix110pft h264>xvid
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22:10.24Noct1obabi
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22:14.49sylvanaarhow did i leave this channel?
22:15.52Hakkerby exiting it
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22:18.14Gngsk~mikk
22:18.15purli heard mikk is NOT the guy that wrote MSBT. He likes fiddling with central libraries. He will happily accept orders for WoW related graphics to keep him occupied.
22:20.33[Liquidor]hehe sylvanaar check your logs
22:20.38sylvanaari did, i cant see
22:20.46[Liquidor]Matrix110, game is too choppy anyway for h264
22:21.06Matrix110(00:00:34) —› part: (sylvanaar) (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116)
22:21.07[Liquidor]UPENN.EDU]
22:21.07[Liquidor][
22:21.08[Liquidor]UPENN.EDU]
22:21.08[Liquidor][
22:21.16[Liquidor][23:55:28] ‹ part, [sylvanaar] [n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.116] --- that's all
22:21.22[Liquidor]ehm
22:21.26Ellipsisfail.
22:21.29[Liquidor]sry for the spam but kek
22:21.32sylvanaarodd
22:21.39Matrix110your watch is going wrong!
22:21.47[Liquidor]no u
22:22.04Matrix110according to a atomic clock its not
22:22.08Matrix110i believe it more than you:P
22:22.42[Liquidor]I guess you're in uhm
22:22.51[Liquidor]Eastern Germany or smth
22:22.55Matrix110no?
22:23.00Matrix110Western
22:23.05[Liquidor]huh?
22:23.15Ellipsisfacepalms
22:23.16Matrix110Western Germany:P
22:23.23[Liquidor]That can't be
22:23.29[Liquidor]Checking map...
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22:23.31[Liquidor]-.-
22:23.40Matrix110then your map fails
22:23.59[Liquidor]no
22:24.02[Liquidor]you have to be in east
22:24.12Matrix110link please then i can say if its correct or not:P
22:24.19[Liquidor]no but
22:24.21CIA-4003xinhuan * r70526 10HandyNotes_FlightMasters/ (HandyNotes_FlightMasters.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): HandyNotes_FlightMasters: Add a rightclick menu for TomTom/Cartographer_Waypoints if either are detected.
22:24.25[Liquidor]What's your local time?
22:24.34Matrix1100:24
22:24.41[Liquidor]arh okay
22:25.13[Liquidor]I thought you were ½-1 hour infront which mean s+2
22:25.32[Liquidor]you're in Berlin then :>
22:25.38Matrix110nope
22:25.41[Liquidor]bah
22:25.45Matrix110about 600km away from it:P
22:25.50[Liquidor]East
22:25.55Matrix110no
22:25.58[Liquidor]!
22:26.04Matrix110but Berlin is my timezone:P
22:26.12[Liquidor]No its not
22:26.16[Liquidor]Copenhagen is
22:26.26Matrix110wtf?
22:26.30[Liquidor]:>
22:27.00[Liquidor]How the hell can you be 600km west of Berlin and still be ~5min infront of me?
22:27.12Matrix110YOUR DAMN CLOCK IS JUST GOING 5MINUTES WRONG:P
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22:27.24[Liquidor]Guess the timezone goes west around Germany
22:27.34Matrix110we got only 1 timezone in germany?
22:27.34Zeksiechiper_: not yet. hadn't decided how best to approach it. was having some issues with the poisons thing (localizations and naming conflicts between items+spells and the actual enchants). so got stalled on adding bits to that part
22:27.41[Liquidor]You got 0
22:27.52[Liquidor]It doesn't want to go through Germany
22:27.56[Liquidor]Goes around
22:27.58Matrix110its everywhere the same time in germany
22:28.17[Liquidor]That would be hardcore tho
22:28.17chiper_Zeksie: how about just a slash command to add the oil to weapon buffs?
22:28.18Matrix110shouldnt be different in denmark:P
22:28.41[Liquidor]There's 3 minutes difference in W/E Denmark
22:28.51Matrix110never
22:28.57[Liquidor]well
22:29.00chiper_Zeksie: user adds it to the list themselves, that way you dont have to worry about localizations
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22:29.43Zeksieyeah.that's all easy enough, but i really wanted a proper solution behind the scenes, but it's just not possible atm
22:30.11Zeksieyou can't query temp item enchants from what i've been able to find out. someone please tell me if I'm wrong here, cos it'd make life a lot nicer
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22:30.26chiper_I'll take half a solution over no solution any day :)
22:30.58Zeksiei'll prolly add water/food to the reagents buyer too if ppl like htat
22:32.24chiper_eh, I already have freerefils to do that for me
22:32.52Zeksieso?
22:33.07nevcairielckknight: LGP, what about ignoring people in your group/raid when receiving data? you already get accurate data from other sources for them
22:33.11kenlyricsink, kitchen
22:33.14kenlyrickitchen, meet sink
22:33.16CIA-4003Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate * r70527 10EasyDND/EasyDND_FuBar.lua:
22:33.16CIA-40EasyDND:
22:33.16CIA-40-Fixed nil error with undefined Tablet var.
22:33.17Merais away, auto-away after 20 minutes (8h 18m 22s ago)
22:34.00ckknightnevcairiel: hrm... that seems reasonable. Btw, is guild positions working for you now?
22:34.09nevcairieli hope
22:34.11nevcairielnot sure
22:34.19ckknightI need to run some tests
22:34.19nevcairieli think i got a icon from one guildy, yes
22:34.36ckknightand it's from the LGP and not CGP?
22:35.06nevcairielyeah my own addon doesnt speak CGP :P
22:35.18Matrix110Mapster :D
22:35.50[Liquidor]Cartographer3 Video online: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
22:36.25Matrix110wtf
22:36.27Matrix11024minutes
22:36.29[Liquidor]-.-
22:36.30[Liquidor]gay
22:36.34ckknight[Liquidor]: it's being converted
22:36.34Matrix11016min
22:36.36[Liquidor]says 18 now
22:36.41Matrix110roflmao
22:36.42Matrix110:D
22:36.45Arrowmasterwhat is it converting it to?
22:36.46[Liquidor]Okay it's estimated
22:36.58Matrix110VC-1
22:36.59Matrix110i guess
22:37.02Arrowmasteroh god
22:37.02Matrix110aka shit
22:37.17Matrix110but most random flash player pages use VC-1
22:37.23Arrowmastereww
22:37.24[Liquidor]I haven't even seen the vid yet :S gotta check it local first
22:37.34[Liquidor]Matrix110, vimeo is great
22:37.56[Liquidor]sec..
22:38.16Matrix110then they might use h264 or higher bitrate
22:38.22Arrowmasterhttp://www.vimeo.com/help/compression
22:38.35Arrowmasterthis is what you get [Liquidor] for converting to xvid instead of h264
22:38.36[Liquidor]Matrix110, http://www.vimeo.com/help/hd
22:39.09Matrix110oh
22:39.42[Liquidor]:)
22:39.53Matrix110hmm yeah the quality is nice:P
22:39.56[Liquidor]Vimeo is the best option
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22:40.27[Liquidor]And the uploading is fast. Almost as good as Stage6
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22:40.38CIA-4003xinhuan * r70528 10MBB/MBB.lua:
22:40.38CIA-40MBB:
22:40.38CIA-40- Add HandyNotesPin to the Ignore List.
22:41.27Matrix11019%
22:41.46Matrix110shouldve uploaded it in h264!!!
22:42.37Gnarfozwtf is MBB? :>
22:42.50[dRaCo]my big boobs?
22:42.56Arcaiaminimap button bag
22:43.04ckknightyour mom's bootylicious behind
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22:43.15Xinhuanyou don't really want to see the code in it
22:43.26Xinhuani reached line 89
22:43.27Xinhuanhooksecurefunc("SecureStateAnchor_RunChild", MBB_SecureOnEnter);
22:43.29Xinhuanthen i closed the file
22:43.36[Liquidor]Matrix110, I dont even know what h264 is
22:43.42[Liquidor]but im watching the vid now and it looks great
22:43.46Matrix110best codec on earth :P
22:43.54[Liquidor]fps is 30 tho
22:43.56[dRaCo]what's mbb do?
22:44.02Matrix110http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H264
22:44.10Xinhuantakes buttons parented to minimap and hides it
22:44.11Gnarfozx264 > h264, btw @ Matrix110 ;) (although it's just another implementation)
22:44.38Matrix110Gnarfoz iam aware of that (using x264 for my videos etc.) but as you said :P
22:44.48Gnarfoz^_^
22:45.00GnarfozCoreAVC is ftw for x264 decoding
22:45.12[Liquidor]I got Ms H261 Video Codec and Ms H263 Video Codec on the list.
22:45.48[Liquidor]zomg 32% http://www.vimeo.com/917523
22:45.57[Liquidor]giggles.
22:45.58Arrowmasterwhat about avc1?
22:46.15Zyndromelurks
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22:46.30[Liquidor]Arrowmaster, no clue
22:46.41[Liquidor]But come on guys lol Xvid is fine in this case :>
22:46.54Matrix110get StaxRIP for easy encoding [Liquidor] its really easy to use but doesnt offer the "pro" options
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22:47.02kenlyricwhere did the filter buttons go for the combatlog? did chatter eat them?
22:47.03Gnarfozhuh? there's VC-1 which is the lobotomized version of WMV10 MS had standardized for use on BluRay etc. AVC is MPEG-4 AVC, which describes codecs like h264
22:47.24Mera^^
22:47.51Arrowmasterh264, x264, and avc1 all refer to basicly the same thing
22:47.52[Liquidor]Gnarfoz
22:47.59[Liquidor]That sentence was pure geektalk
22:48.12Gnarfozis there a way to suppress the text who started a BigWigs custom timer bar? (the ones created by /bwcb, although I'm simply using SendAddonMessage directly atm because of macro space constraints)
22:48.22Gnarfoz[Liquidor]: I own "geektour.de" :P
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22:50.02[Liquidor]What the hell
22:50.09[Liquidor]"I give this converting 11 out of 10. "
22:50.12Zyndrome:3
22:51.02dsDranorIt's obviously 1 louder
22:51.18Zyndromeit goes all the way to eleven!
22:51.49Zyndromehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ca2D2EnqQ
22:52.47CIA-4003krytharn * r70529 10Sort/Sort.lua: Sort: -fixed an issue with reversed sort
22:54.16[Liquidor]Hahah Zyndrome
22:55.02Gnarfozclassic ;)
22:55.37[Liquidor]never seen that before
22:56.56Matrix11074%
22:59.23Gnarfozah, too bad, BigWigs CustomBars takes the name of the "sender" directly from the AddonMessage and puts it on the bar :\ no way to get around it, then
23:01.34[Liquidor]Gnarfoz, yup been like that always and it blows
23:02.16[dRaCo]nothing but modifying BW, yeah
23:02.36Zyndrome95%
23:02.39Zyndromethe tension rises!
23:02.46[Liquidor]It's weird
23:03.04[Liquidor]this video is like the highlight of tonight and I'm doing absolutely nothing but staring at that progress
23:03.16[Liquidor]:((
23:03.18Chaudsad.
23:03.27[Liquidor]And watching utube vids tho
23:03.47[Liquidor]HotForWords ftw
23:03.52Matrix110its ready!!!!
23:03.53dsDranorlol
23:03.54Matrix110OMG
23:03.57dsDranor100% = ready in 10min
23:03.58[Liquidor]lol
23:03.59[Liquidor]HAHA
23:04.00Matrix110"Its ready to watch in abotu1 0min"
23:04.49[Liquidor]while you wait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46B7p1yEJos
23:05.13dsDranorsadly theres no more counter for you to watch [Liquidator]
23:05.23[Liquidor]I only need that vid linked above
23:06.23Zyndromehard to understand what she's saying, but that doesn't matter, we'll just stare at her huuuuuge ... tracks of land
23:07.06ApocoDoes anyone use Drums of War over Drums of Battle?
23:07.26[dRaCo]no
23:07.42ApocoI'm debating removing all of the DoW support im DrumWatch
23:07.45[Liquidor]Zyndrome, she's quite intelligent too http://www.hotforwords.com/bio/
23:07.50Apocobecause I can't think of a reason to use Drums of War
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23:08.08Matrix110it shows!!!!!
23:08.12Chaudwhat if you happened to have nothing else
23:08.13[Liquidor]Cartographer3 vid is up now: http://www.vimeo.com/917523
23:08.23[Liquidor]pfft
23:08.30[Liquidor]Quality blows
23:09.05[Liquidor]gonna upload it elsewhere, their converter is shit
23:09.11Arrowmastervimeo using the old stage6 stuff doesnt it?
23:09.13ApocoChaud: then you suck?
23:09.35[Liquidor]Arrowmaster, nope
23:09.42ChaudDrumwatch - Not for awfuls.
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23:09.49[Liquidor]it's all flash etc. Stage6 was divx apps
23:09.58Arrowmasterlooks like it when you go into full screen
23:10.08[Liquidor]Flash Player
23:10.22Chaudvimeo is bad
23:10.27ChaudNeed stage6 back =\
23:10.38nevcairielI can understand why they shut down
23:10.40ckknightstage6 was unprofitable.
23:10.51Chaudmassive bandwidth I guess =\
23:10.58nevcairielthe network and server load mustve been damn expensive
23:11.11Chaudnow I just start the movie from WCM downloading from filefront and watch with VLC
23:11.15[Liquidor]nevcairiel, way high
23:11.19Chaudalmost as good
23:11.21Diaohow much cpu/mem does cart3 use compared to cart2
23:11.52Apoco[Liquidor]: I must say, I am amazed at that vid.
23:12.01ApocoGoodjob.
23:12.02Diaoit looks really cool but if it uses more cpu/mem that would suck :(
23:12.08ApocoThe way you added Sunwell Isle though is kinda ghetto
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23:13.28Arrowmasterhow is it ghetto?
23:13.48Diao:( no response
23:13.55ckknightApoco: it's my addon, btw
23:14.02ckknight[Liquidor]: what's the link?
23:14.03[Liquidor]no but really.. I need to find another vid host cause that quality is sooo bad
23:14.08[Liquidor]ckknight http://www.vimeo.com/917523
23:14.09Gnarfozit's simply not on that continent
23:14.14[Liquidor]download the raw avi there
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23:14.20Apocockknight:  Good Job then.
23:14.23Arrowmasterits because you used xvid
23:14.24[Liquidor]bottom right of page
23:14.32ApocoI've never used Cart before so yeah, I had no clue :p
23:14.35[Liquidor]Arrowmaster, probably but the vid I got here is fine
23:14.46Arrowmasterthey converted it
23:14.49Chaudcan you still host divx stuff on your own site?
23:14.56Chaudso far as streaming
23:14.58[Liquidor]I'll compress another one with their recommendations
23:15.16Arrowmasterwhat res did you fraps at?
23:15.37[Liquidor]This is what they recommend http://www.vimeo.com/help/compression
23:15.39buuThat's pretty awesome
23:16.57[Liquidor]Try and download the raw .avi version on the right side. It's just ~50mb big
23:17.09Arrowmaster50mb?
23:17.18Arrowmasterfor a raw?
23:17.18[Liquidor]yup
23:17.21[Liquidor]no
23:17.32Arrowmasteryou mean xvid right
23:17.37[Liquidor]pre-vimeoconvertion
23:17.44[Liquidor]ye xvid version
23:17.46Arrowmasterwhat res did you fraps at?
23:17.47Chaudis that video choppy?
23:17.51[Liquidor]the raw file I got is 1.6gb
23:17.52Arrowmasterand what res do you play at?
23:17.53Chaudor is something wrong with my flash
23:18.01Gnarfoz~seen vhaarr
23:18.04purlvhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 12h 25m 4s ago, saying: 'Zeksie: it won't do that if you define your Mount set correctly'.
23:18.04[Liquidor]it's bad Chaud
23:18.23Xinhuanckknight ping
23:18.31ckknightXinhuan: pong
23:18.40Xinhuanneed your permission to apply this patch - http://ace.pastey.net/86056
23:18.46[Liquidor]Arrowmaster, don't know the video settings. prolly 12...x
23:19.02Arrowmasteryou dont know the res of the file preconversion?
23:19.02Chaudwas it smooth before encode ?
23:19.07Arrowmasteryou suck at encoding
23:19.08Chaudor just bad computer
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23:19.48[Liquidor]lol shut up :)
23:19.50[Liquidor]It's fine
23:19.55[Liquidor]no blur or anything
23:20.37Chaudhmm
23:20.37Cheadsuhm.. anyone know of dot timer addons, besides dotdotdot and classtimer?
23:20.43Chaudall cart3 lacks is traffic reports
23:20.48ChaudWHERE IS THE TRAFFIC REPORT.
23:21.04Olisongets the MAPSTER flag out.
23:21.10[Liquidor]video is 1280x768, 30fps, 230kbps, 24bit XviD, 48mb (compressed)
23:21.14Xinhuanits basically the same hack i inserted in LibRollCall-2.0
23:21.16GnarfozCheads: warlock? ForteWarlock, I guess
23:21.43Xinhuanexcept that in librollcall, if multiple copies of the lib gets loaded, it hooks multiple times
23:22.38[Liquidor]Arrowmaster, downloaded it?
23:22.43Arrowmastercant
23:23.20[Liquidor]lemme try filefront
23:23.41CheadsGnarfoz ty will try
23:25.47Gnarfoz[Liquidor]: have to be logged in to d/l it
23:26.03[Liquidor]uhm
23:26.06[Liquidor]DCC?
23:27.43[Liquidor]Chaud, ping
23:27.47ckknightChaud: traffic report?
23:27.56[Liquidor]hehe
23:28.02Xinhuanckknight, yes/no? ^^
23:28.02Chaudlike google maps
23:28.08Chaudconnection failed on DCC
23:28.16ckknightXinhuan: to?
23:28.21[Liquidor]Resent...
23:28.26Xinhuanto libguildpositions-1.0
23:28.35Xinhuanbecause the lib calls GuildRoster() every 15 secs
23:28.49CIA-4003krytharn * r70530 10Sort/: Sort: -changed locale2.0 to locale2.2
23:28.53ckknightXinhuan: yes, commit up
23:28.57[Liquidor]Arh so that's why I get the spam "You're not in a guild"
23:29.02Xinhuanit requires a hook to blizzard's guild control panel to unregister an event
23:29.02[Liquidor]or not
23:29.08Xinhuanor it resets every 15 secs
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23:31.13CIA-4003xinhuan * r70531 10LibGuildPositions-1.0/LibGuildPositions-1.0.lua: LibGuildPositions-1.0: Add a hook to stop the Guild Control Panel from resetting every 15 seconds (for guildmasters) as this library calls GetRoster() every 15 seconds.
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23:32.29Xinhuanumm GuildRoster() hehe, typoed the commit note
23:32.43Xinhuantime to edit that commit note
23:32.46Snago~cartographer3
23:32.47purlit has been said that cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/trees/master (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at http://jira.wowace.com/secure/CreateIssue.jspa?pid=10024 in the Cartographer3 component
23:33.00PaeneAceDB and AceDBOptions...difference?
23:34.54charon"options". duh.
23:35.02charon(ignore me, i'm drunk)
23:35.39dylanmPaene: It creates a profile config panel, I think.
23:35.44SnagoAceDB is the actual DB handler
23:36.32SnagoAceDBOptions is for creating config allowing you to change/copy/delete profiles
23:36.40ckknightoh, I updated Cartographer3's player, group, and guild icons
23:36.43ckknighttell me how it looks.
23:37.43Diaohmm
23:37.51charonmore or less seriously though, have there been no further reports of omen breakage after the one i fixed about 6 hours ago?
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23:40.08IawladinThis question prolly comes up a lot lately, but my Recount isn't showing any data.
23:40.46HjalteIawladin: Are you using the very latest version?
23:40.53[Liquidor]ckknight, I'm a bit confused about the main cities...
23:40.58IawladinI'm updating to the VERY latest.
23:41.03Iawladinbut i have a newer one
23:41.08Iawladin<1 week old
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23:41.29IawladinRecount-r69779
23:41.32Iawladinis what i had
23:41.37HjalteIawladin: 1 week is a long time on the internet :)
23:41.55Xinhuanwow no cia
23:41.56Iawladin>_> i know
23:42.24Iawladinokay downloaded it, deleted old Recount, put it in AddOns... anything else?
23:42.29Iawladinput new one in AddOns*
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23:43.31charonwell, i'll take that as a no. glad that is so
23:44.52[Liquidor]charon, no
23:45.07charon:)
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23:46.09Arrowmasterso whos krytharn and why did he set svn:eol_style = native on a directory?
23:46.29charoni've been wondering, is there a more or less reliable heuristic that tells apart aggro target changes from spell casting target changes?
23:47.12Arrowmastercharon: a short delay to see if the target goes back again and a UnitCasting() check
23:48.04Iawladin>_>
23:48.07Iawladinstill not working
23:48.51[Liquidor]ffs
23:49.13[Liquidor]FileFront stream of Cartographer3 is even worse: http://files.filefront.com/Cartographer3avi/;10040068;/fileinfo.html
23:49.41QuantumDeltaVimeo for streamingness
23:49.41Arrowmasteri told you that you suck at encoding
23:49.48Chaudrofl
23:49.57Chaudfile itself looks fine though =p
23:50.10[Liquidor]QuantumDelta; http://www.vimeo.com/917523
23:50.23QuantumDeltaohh
23:50.30QuantumDeltagood man
23:50.43[Liquidor]wow
23:50.51[Liquidor]I think Quality just improved at Vimeo
23:50.54[Liquidor]watch it again
23:51.05[Liquidor]Can read the text even in fullscreen now
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23:51.46QuantumDeltaok.....
23:51.51QuantumDeltathat kinda sells carto 3
23:52.03Arrowmasterit did change
23:52.09Arrowmastertheres now an HD thingy
23:52.15Chaudthat was there before =\
23:52.28Arrowmasternot for me
23:52.34[Liquidor]neither here
23:52.36ChaudI watched it way after you did
23:53.02[Liquidor]Prolly needs hits for HD activation
23:53.09[Liquidor]ckknight, http://www.vimeo.com/917523 there you go (HD)
23:53.35ChaudNeeds traffic and weather
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23:53.58[Liquidor]hehe
23:53.59Arrowmasterrofl
23:54.17charonArrowmaster: thanks, might try that tomorrow if i remember. i believe it would be useful to have at least a dev branch that tries to warn if a threat-based aggro change happened that threat-2.0 would not have predicted
23:54.17Arrowmasterweather updates would be fucking great but useless
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23:54.31Chaudmaybe cameras to show current traffic conditions
23:54.45ChaudI wish wow had the WC3 like replay system =\
23:55.04Arrowmastercharon: ive told anti before that he should add a casting check to the target change stuff but i dont think he ever did
23:55.49charonArrowmaster: huh? target-of-target hardly has any influence on omen right now
23:55.54charonoh, perhaps with warnings?
23:56.09Arrowmasteryeah
23:56.13charoni se
23:56.16charon*see
23:56.19Arrowmasterits like a 2sec delay or something now
23:56.36Arrowmasterafter a target change for it to detect it as an aggro gain
23:56.52charoni've completely disabled warnings so i couldn't tell ;)
23:56.54Arrowmasterand adjust the %s on the display
23:56.58Chaudreal odd how stream works now
23:57.05charoni'm a feral so half the time i don't give a damn about aggro and just shift bear
23:57.18MentalPower[Liquidor]: does that video have sound?
23:57.39QuantumDeltanot that i noticed
23:57.48MentalPowerk, just checking
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23:57.54MentalPowersince it seems like it should
23:57.59QuantumDeltaI don't even think it has an audio track
23:58.04[Liquidor]doesn't
23:58.16ramoz[Liquidor]: think you unequipped your wand!
23:58.27[Liquidor]ramoz
23:59.32[Liquidor]my priest: http://i30.tinypic.com/3324chh.jpg
23:59.36CIA-4003zuno * r70535 10UnitActionBars/ (. ActionButton.lua UnitActionBars.toc embeds.xml):
23:59.36CIA-40UnitActionBars:
23:59.36CIA-40- Updated to LibDogTag-2.0
23:59.55IawladinLiquidor
23:59.58IawladinBoulderfist...
23:59.59Iawladinlol

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