| 00:00.31 | aestil | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/rapist.jpg |
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| 00:01.27 | Gngsk | washington dc media is ftw |
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| 00:12.50 | Camci | nice, a movie where a girl have teeth at her pussy |
| 00:12.57 | Camci | need to download and watch it |
| 00:13.15 | Camci | :p |
| 00:13.27 | Zhinjio | ... |
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| 00:17.56 | aestil | ... |
| 00:18.08 | Jaxon | (Its a dark comedy called Teeth) |
| 00:18.47 | aestil | i'd rather watch primer again than anything to do with vaginal teeth |
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| 00:21.43 | Zhinjio | I'd rather watch paint dry. |
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| 00:27.04 | Chaud | or would you. |
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| 00:31.19 | stew_a | i think i know the answer to this, but is it possible to make a single file, or part of an addon LoD, but not the whole thing? |
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| 00:32.30 | Paene | Anyone know offhand if lua has a function to capitalize the first letter of a string? |
| 00:33.04 | Ellipsis | stew_a: the short answer is no, the long answer is yes but not really |
| 00:33.36 | stew_a | Ellipsis: what does the long answer involve? |
| 00:33.40 | JJSheets | lua> ("test"):gsub("^.",function(s) return s:upper() end) |
| 00:33.40 | lua_bot | JJSheets: Test, 1 |
| 00:33.49 | JJSheets | Paene. There ya go. |
| 00:33.57 | Ellipsis | you can code it in such a way that the data and such don't load until needed |
| 00:34.12 | Ellipsis | but for "true" LoD it has to be a separate addon |
| 00:34.32 | Paene | JJSheets: Any idea how that'll work with foreign characters? |
| 00:34.48 | stew_a | if it is, for example, a very large table would it still eat a large quantity of UI memory? |
| 00:35.08 | JJSheets | Ought to work fine. string.upper is supposed to account for the current locale. don't quote me on it tho, and do test it out first. :p |
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| 00:35.30 | Paene | kk, just trying to avoid using Babble-Class for like 8 small strings |
| 00:35.33 | Paene | seems like a waste |
| 00:35.48 | Ellipsis | stew_a: if you define such a table directly in your file it will always take memory, but you could define a function that creates that table which you only call when necessary |
| 00:36.02 | Ellipsis | that greatly reduces the memory usage when you don't need the table |
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| 00:36.48 | stew_a | Ellipsis: fair enough, not appropriate for what i need, but thanks |
| 00:37.22 | Ellipsis | well, I tried :) |
| 00:37.42 | stew_a | well actually, it might, thanks |
| 00:37.54 | Ellipsis | anytime |
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| 00:42.11 | stew_a | trying to cut down on the 10mb of ui memory this totally static table is eating |
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| 00:44.43 | Orionshock | hehe.. this is going to be interesting... |
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| 00:50.08 | Camci | my god the movie sucks |
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| 00:50.13 | vithos | getting these FrameXML/LibRockConfig/Waterfall/Dewdrop errors http://ace.pastey.net/86849 |
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| 00:50.36 | vithos | is that just a blizzard bug? |
| 00:50.55 | CIA-40 | 03sayclub * r72014 10GridIndicatorCornerPlus/ (GridIndicatorCornerPlus-koKR.lua GridIndicatorCornerPlus.toc): |
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| 00:54.26 | on1y | so whats the deal with recount |
| 00:54.36 | on1y | all i get now are error everytime i update |
| 00:54.53 | on1y | i then have to clear out everthing in wtf to get it workign again |
| 00:55.22 | Jaxon | So stop updating? |
| 00:55.39 | on1y | lol |
| 00:55.57 | on1y | nm, useless comments like that arent welcome |
| 00:56.09 | CIA-40 | 03paene * r72015 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (10 files in 10 dirs): |
| 00:56.09 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 00:56.09 | CIA-40 | - Removed usage of Babble-Class |
| 00:56.09 | CIA-40 | - Updated externals |
| 00:56.50 | Jaxon | I don't see how it is useless. Revert to the revision that wasn't giving you errors. |
| 00:57.07 | on1y | you cant revent |
| 00:57.18 | on1y | it messed up the savevari |
| 00:57.34 | stew_a | Ellipsis: the table function still takes up a lot of memory, almost enough to make it worth just having the table |
| 00:57.37 | on1y | nm |
| 00:59.08 | Xinhuan | stew_a, what table uses 10 mb of memory in your addon :o |
| 00:59.23 | stew_a | a big one |
| 00:59.27 | Xinhuan | what's in it |
| 00:59.30 | Chaud | I was typing that =\ |
| 00:59.32 | stew_a | stuff |
| 00:59.39 | Xinhuan | such as....? |
| 00:59.40 | stew_a | strings mostly |
| 00:59.42 | Xinhuan | you're avoiding answering |
| 01:00.01 | Xinhuan | in many cases, the table can be restructured to use less memory |
| 01:00.20 | Xinhuan | by rearranging the way the data is stored in it, or packing it up into smaller strings |
| 01:00.35 | Xinhuan | or using shorter table keys, and replacing strings with integers and using the integers to lookup a table |
| 01:01.08 | stew_a | you have a point on that last one |
| 01:01.12 | Xinhuan | consider Lootlink, you could store for 60000 items, "Bind on Pickup" strings, or just an integer 3 which means "BoP" |
| 01:01.20 | Xinhuan | and you can have a lookup table that translates 3 into that string |
| 01:01.24 | stew_a | yeah, theres not a lot of repetition |
| 01:01.35 | Xinhuan | similarly, if you have a lot of data, say |
| 01:01.44 | Xinhuan | t = {10, 20, 3, 35, 234} |
| 01:01.51 | Xinhuan | that's a table with 5 entries |
| 01:02.05 | Xinhuan | and memory usage can be halved by doing t = "10:20:3:35:234" |
| 01:02.14 | Xinhuan | and then using strsplit() when necessary |
| 01:02.24 | Xelopheris | Xin, you trade memory usage for processor power. The delicate balance. |
| 01:02.28 | stew_a | again not really applicable |
| 01:02.30 | Xinhuan | correct |
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| 01:02.56 | Xinhuan | pretty much you have to show us what's in your table, and what its used for, and then maybe we can analyse a better method ^^ |
| 01:02.59 | Xelopheris | and other than auctioneer and lootlink and DM mods, I can't think of many addons that I worry about memory usage |
| 01:03.39 | stew_a | i think there are some easy ways i can reduce memory usage, i'll see what i can do with it |
| 01:04.24 | Xinhuan | basically, using mnunomics or however you spell that word ;p |
| 01:04.30 | Ellipsis | mnemonics |
| 01:04.36 | Chaud | auctioneer eats so much =\ |
| 01:04.43 | Xinhuan | and packing table data into strings, are your 2 best methods |
| 01:04.44 | Chaud | and lags me every search / page switch |
| 01:05.00 | Xuerian | Opens up and chugs it like a frat boy |
| 01:05.19 | Xinhuan | every table and subtable uses 40 bytes |
| 01:05.40 | Zhinjio | Question about Baggins: How can I get a section to *not* contain items that are already present in another section (eg, quest items not including keys that are also in my keyring) |
| 01:05.49 | Zhinjio | "Allow Duplicates" doesn't seem to do a damn thing. |
| 01:05.56 | Jaxon | ~api CheckInteractDistance |
| 01:05.57 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_CheckInteractDistance |
| 01:06.00 | Xinhuan | and sometimes instead of a.b.c = {10, 20}, it might be better to have p.b.c = 10 and q.b.c = 20 |
| 01:06.11 | Xinhuan | that way you save a table for every .c |
| 01:06.18 | Ellipsis | also if you have a large table full of small tables (say you're holding data about 10k different items, and each item has 4 different pieces of information in its table) you can turn it into a few large tables of values (in that case, 4 tables with 10k entries each) |
| 01:06.24 | Xinhuan | but use an extra table per .b |
| 01:06.34 | Xinhuan | ^ what Ellipsis said |
| 01:06.56 | Xinhuan | i.e 4 tables of 10k is better than 10k tables of 4 |
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| 01:07.48 | stew_a | yep, i'm gonna take this thing back to the drawing board and pack it down, but tbh i was expecting huge memory usage |
| 01:07.50 | Xinhuan | another useful trick is with regards to 2 dimensional tables of size MxN |
| 01:08.05 | Xinhuan | is to use a single 1 dimensional table instead using t[a*M-N] |
| 01:08.24 | Ellipsis | of course that only works if they're integer keyed |
| 01:08.24 | Xinhuan | that saves a table lookup and lots of subtables |
| 01:08.36 | Xinhuan | t[a*M-b] rather |
| 01:08.48 | Xinhuan | where a is [1-M] and b is [1-N] |
| 01:09.25 | Xinhuan | without specific information it'll be hard to suggest anything else ;p |
| 01:09.55 | stew_a | basically this table format was for me to wrap my head round what i needed to do with the data, now that's written i can go back and restructure the data |
| 01:10.00 | Xinhuan | the multiplication+subtraction speed is about 2 orders of magnitude faster than a table lookup basically |
| 01:11.35 | Xinhuan | another way of reducing table size is to use non-integer keys, if your data contains exactly 2 things |
| 01:11.48 | Xinhuan | t[1] = {a, b} ---> t[a] = b |
| 01:12.06 | stew_a | ok you guys really know a lot about tables |
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| 01:13.38 | Zhinjio | I guess noone actually uses Baggins anymore, eh? More fool me. |
| 01:13.41 | Chaud | mine have 4 legs.. |
| 01:13.56 | JJSheets | I use Baggins... |
| 01:14.03 | Xinhuan | mine has 6! |
| 01:14.06 | Toadkiller | I think this was mentioned already but in the case of specific # of entries so 3+, you can save them in a single table and index = nth * #of small table entries(say3) and then just offset by +1 & +2 for the 2nd & 3rd entry. |
| 01:15.04 | Xinhuan | good suggestion, omen uses that strategy for its labels |
| 01:15.06 | Zhinjio | Is Nargiddley still around and/or maintaining this thing? |
| 01:15.11 | Toadkiller | I like bagnon. just 1 giant bag and 1 giant bank. Just wish it would also keep track of mail items between characters in my account |
| 01:15.13 | Zhinjio | its fairly well riddled with bugs. |
| 01:15.19 | Ellipsis | what bugs? |
| 01:15.25 | Ellipsis | baggins has always worked well for me |
| 01:15.54 | Zhinjio | hmm, where should I start. |
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| 01:15.55 | CIA-40 | ButtonFacade: |
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| 01:16.03 | Zhinjio | profiles are completely fucked. |
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| 01:16.11 | Zhinjio | configs are fucked. |
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| 01:16.13 | Ellipsis | well I don't use profiles so I dunno about that |
| 01:16.15 | Ellipsis | config works fine for me |
| 01:16.18 | Zhinjio | sections are fucked. |
| 01:16.21 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 01:16.26 | Ellipsis | what are you having trouble with specifically? |
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| 01:16.36 | Toadkiller | The abandonware making me cry the most is ItemRack... |
| 01:16.38 | Zhinjio | I just asked a question above. |
| 01:16.39 | Antiarc | Heehee, wheeee |
| 01:16.40 | JJSheets | uses AllInOne with Baggins, and leaves it alone. :p |
| 01:16.42 | Ellipsis | you did? |
| 01:16.43 | Antiarc | 500gb Seagate for $89 |
| 01:16.48 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 01:16.50 | Zhinjio | I did. |
| 01:17.00 | Ellipsis | make sure your duplicates is set to per bag (or global if that's what you want) |
| 01:17.01 | Zhinjio | apparently, it got lost amongst the table optimization discussion. |
| 01:17.17 | Zhinjio | I only have one bag. |
| 01:17.18 | JJSheets | Antiarc, I'm sorry to hear that. Shoulda gone with WD imnsho |
| 01:17.20 | Ellipsis | well then |
| 01:17.23 | Ellipsis | either setting should work for you |
| 01:17.38 | Antiarc | Meh, I've used a combo of seagate/WD/Maxtor for years and they've all worked equally well |
| 01:18.05 | Toadkiller | I wanna get me a pair of those new VelociRaptors |
| 01:18.26 | Zhinjio | and yet: quest keys are still appearing in my quest section. |
| 01:18.28 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: if you're having trouble with it going to the quest section INSTEAD of the keyring, try upping the keyring priority a bit (I usually set mine fairly high because I don't want keys getting in my bags ever) |
| 01:18.37 | CIA-40 | 03orionshock * r72017 10GuildCraft/ (ChatChannelComms.lua GuildCraft.toc): GuildCraft: fix chat comms to sorta work... |
| 01:18.57 | Zhinjio | higher priority numbers mean higher priority, or lower? |
| 01:19.20 | Ellipsis | higher number = higher priority |
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| 01:19.33 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: Hey speaking of that quest, I think u have the wrong guy for the 1k donation. Its not the guy that takes the 10g, its a new spawn at top of inn |
| 01:19.50 | Orionshock | don't know |
| 01:20.00 | Toadkiller | I can guarantee it... |
| 01:20.01 | Orionshock | prolly never going to do that quest, and i don't think it's a dailie |
| 01:20.06 | Zhinjio | ok, so ... My "Keyring" bag has priority 20, my "Quest" bag has priority 1. "Allow Duplicates" is NOT checked in either one. They're still showing up after a full refresh. |
| 01:20.20 | Toadkiller | lol true enough but u have the data for it on the wrong guy |
| 01:20.31 | Orionshock | lol |
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| 01:21.44 | Toadkiller | Orionshock: "A Magnanimous Benefactor" Anchorite Kairthos |
| 01:21.44 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: I thought you said you only had one bag |
| 01:22.11 | Zhinjio | I do. The term used in the GUI to configure the sections inside the bags is called, inappropriately enough "Bags" |
| 01:22.17 | Zhinjio | so ... thats the term I'm using. |
| 01:22.38 | Xinhuan | in any case, you can't really auto complete the quest, because they added a HUGE warning staticpopup saying |
| 01:22.41 | Zhinjio | and I apologize ahead of time. I just had a shitty meeting and I'm grumpy. |
| 01:22.48 | Xinhuan | "completing this quest will cost you X gold, are you sure????" |
| 01:23.01 | Xinhuan | for both the 10g and 1000g versions |
| 01:24.27 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: er, no...bags are bags. sections are sections. categories are categories. |
| 01:24.44 | Zhinjio | ok, so sections then |
| 01:24.59 | Zhinjio | I have a "Keyring" section, and a "Quest" section, in the one and only bag |
| 01:25.09 | Zhinjio | Keyring has priority 20 |
| 01:25.12 | Zhinjio | Quest has priority 1 |
| 01:25.19 | Zhinjio | neither have "Allow Duplicates" checked |
| 01:25.32 | Ellipsis | and the item in question fits in your keyring as well as being a quest item? |
| 01:25.46 | Zhinjio | correct, and is present in both |
| 01:25.52 | Zhinjio | for example Boulderfist Key |
| 01:25.58 | Ellipsis | and you have hide duplicates set to bag or global? |
| 01:26.03 | Zhinjio | Cho'war's Key, or Deathforge Key |
| 01:26.18 | Zhinjio | where is there a hide duplicates option? |
| 01:26.29 | Ellipsis | main baggins options... |
| 01:27.28 | Zhinjio | thats interesting. That option appears in the fubar menu, but not in the waterffall config. interesting. |
| 01:27.33 | Zhinjio | unless I'm overlooking it completely |
| 01:27.43 | Ellipsis | the baggins config is different from the bag/category config |
| 01:27.58 | Zhinjio | I'm aware, yes. |
| 01:28.03 | Zhinjio | I have both open atm |
| 01:28.11 | Zhinjio | ah, there it is. |
| 01:28.34 | Zhinjio | alright, gone. thank you. |
| 01:29.15 | Ellipsis | pets Zhinjio |
| 01:30.05 | stew_a | hmm, table doenst seem to be as big as i thought, only 45865 keys (rewriting it now to be several tables with 45865 entries instead of 45865 tables with several entries) |
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| 01:37.15 | CIA-40 | 03paene * r72018 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 01:37.15 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 01:37.15 | CIA-40 | - Setup framework for adjust module specific options |
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| 01:44.45 | Xinhuan | who's interested in writing a ratingbuster replacement? ^^ |
| 01:45.29 | dylanm | Tekkub tried I think but it's such a pain. |
| 01:45.30 | Stanzilla | points at Xinhuan |
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| 01:45.42 | Tekkub | it's beyond pain |
| 01:45.50 | Xinhuan | what were the main issues Tekkub? |
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| 01:46.07 | Tekkub | inconsistant text strings |
| 01:46.32 | Xinhuan | even so, over time, all the different patterns can be added yeah? |
| 01:46.54 | dylanm | Getting numbers was annoying for me but one could probably just steal them from RB. |
| 01:47.20 | Xinhuan | apart from inconsistant text strings, what other problem is there? |
| 01:47.46 | stew_a | Xinhuan: lol i have restructured it into several large tables, integer keyed, almost no subtables, and still eats about 10mb of ui memory lol |
| 01:47.59 | Xinhuan | lol stew_a |
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| 01:48.24 | Tekkub | can yes xin, but in the end I came to the conclusion that it's really a moot point |
| 01:48.34 | stew_a | this table really doenst seem to want to be optimised |
| 01:48.37 | Xinhuan | so ratingbuster is still the "best"? |
| 01:48.39 | Tekkub | people don't care much about the percent, they have a target rating they're after |
| 01:48.47 | Tekkub | no, RB in the "only" |
| 01:49.01 | Xinhuan | maybe you can show us the table stew_a :) |
| 01:49.25 | stew_a | ok, do you have a pastey where i can dump 5 mb files? |
| 01:49.30 | Tekkub | RB makes me a suicidal panda |
| 01:49.43 | Xinhuan | how about just pastey a small portion of it ;p |
| 01:49.46 | Xinhuan | enough to show the structure |
| 01:49.48 | JoshBorke | don't use it then |
| 01:49.53 | Tekkub | I gave him good tip hooking code that's like 5 lines long and what did he do, write fucking TipHookerLib |
| 01:49.53 | stew_a | ok gimme a minute |
| 01:50.27 | Xinhuan | not every tooltip should be hooked btw tekkub |
| 01:50.35 | Ellipsis | I can't help but laugh at the mental image of a suicidal panda |
| 01:50.44 | Ellipsis | I mean, it would be pretty clumsy to try to kill yourself with those paws |
| 01:50.56 | Tekkub | not only that, there's no reason to use the GameTooltip:Set* hooks unless you need stack numbers |
| 01:51.01 | Tekkub | and EQUIPMENT DOESN"T STACK |
| 01:51.30 | Xinhuan | ratingbuster also works on stackable items/potions, although arguably it doesn't need the stack number |
| 01:51.33 | Tekkub | Ellipsis, bamboo "spears" |
| 01:51.50 | Ellipsis | gnaw it into a sharp point I suppose? |
| 01:51.52 | Xinhuan | for eg, haste potions increases haste rating by ?? rating, and the % is displayed |
| 01:51.52 | Tekkub | potion items stack, but the buffs don't |
| 01:52.00 | dylanm | Yeah see you get like 20 of those and make a raft. |
| 01:52.32 | Xinhuan | wasn't tiphooker made before OnTooltipSetItem was available? |
| 01:52.46 | Tekkub | NO |
| 01:52.48 | JoshBorke | blah blah blah |
| 01:52.48 | Tekkub | FUCK NO |
| 01:52.51 | JoshBorke | blah blah blah |
| 01:52.58 | JoshBorke | QQ somewhere else Tek |
| 01:53.04 | Tekkub | he made it AFTER I gave him the OnTooltip... code |
| 01:53.05 | CIA-40 | 03starlon * r72019 10oUF_Castbar/oUF_Castbar.lua: oUF_Castbar: Correct a typo |
| 01:53.18 | Tekkub | which is why I'm so pissed |
| 01:53.23 | Tekkub | still |
| 01:53.31 | Antiarc | http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewbaldwin/2445001306/sizes/l/ |
| 01:54.16 | Zhinjio | where do nethers/primals fall in LPT? |
| 01:54.20 | Tekkub | http://www.netrite.ca/robodeath/sad%20panda2.jpg |
| 01:54.24 | Tekkub | I need one of those |
| 01:54.51 | dylanm | http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/trunk/TipHookerLib March '07. So. |
| 01:55.07 | Xinhuan | so you've given up making a RB replacement? |
| 01:55.40 | Tekkub | yes |
| 01:55.48 | Tekkub | I don't see much point to having one really |
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| 01:56.04 | Tekkub | I don't find myself saying "which rating is better?" |
| 01:56.36 | durcyn | Tekkub: Engravings/Data/stacksize.lua throws an error on a few items btw, apparently stack from GetItemInfo can occasionally be nil |
| 01:56.38 | Ellipsis | I wish there was something that did the same as RB's summary feature though |
| 01:56.48 | Tekkub | dur, fixed, BTW |
| 01:56.51 | durcyn | oh, cool |
| 01:57.08 | Antiarc | What's wrong with RB? |
| 01:57.13 | Xuerian | How dare you suggest such a silly error, durcyn |
| 01:57.14 | Tekkub | everything? |
| 01:57.15 | Ellipsis | have you looked at the code? |
| 01:57.21 | Antiarc | I havne't |
| 01:57.30 | dylanm | You've gotta remember where you are :p |
| 01:57.30 | Ellipsis | well, that's what's wrong with it :P |
| 01:57.31 | Antiarc | It's never really registered on my radar |
| 01:57.33 | durcyn | eh? git thought my copy was up to date, is why i mentioned it |
| 01:57.38 | Tekkub | Antiarc, don't, trust me |
| 01:57.43 | Antiarc | Well, now I have to |
| 01:57.44 | Tekkub | <--- suicidal panda |
| 01:58.01 | Ellipsis | quietly takes away Tekkub's bamboo |
| 01:58.05 | Tekkub | durcyn, stupid git |
| 01:58.08 | Xuerian | Can't be worse than AnchorsAway |
| 01:58.11 | Xuerian | flexes. |
| 01:58.13 | Tekkub | <3 git just for that phrase |
| 01:58.23 | durcyn | bastard. |
| 01:58.27 | Arrowmaster | RatingBuster/StatLogicLib is currently causing fps lag |
| 01:58.32 | Antiarc | I giggle every time I type "git status" |
| 01:58.37 | Antiarc | I want to append "ya'll" |
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| 01:59.37 | Antiarc | Holy god almighty |
| 01:59.42 | Antiarc | A 300 line function? |
| 02:00.14 | Antiarc | I thought Threat's COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED parser was bad and that's only ~120 |
| 02:00.30 | Ellipsis | we warned you |
| 02:00.51 | Tekkub | o/~ Staring at your booooOOOOOOoooobs o/~ <3 Regina Spektor |
| 02:01.28 | Tekkub | honestly, RB just kinda proves that theorycrafting should be left to outside the game |
| 02:01.57 | Tekkub | if the item is so close you can't tell it's an upgrade, take it unless it's an obvious upgrade for someone else... then figure out if you'll use it later |
| 02:02.06 | Ellipsis | also, that blizzard's tooltip code should be burned and never spoken of again |
| 02:02.08 | Antiarc | RB is extremely useful to me |
| 02:02.31 | Xuerian | RB is teh awesome, even if it is a monster. |
| 02:02.38 | Tekkub | BLizzy should just give us direct access to item stats |
| 02:02.45 | Xuerian | Would make it easier |
| 02:03.00 | Tekkub | GetItemStat(id, stat) |
| 02:03.11 | Tekkub | GetItemStat(12345, "Intellect") |
| 02:03.19 | Xuerian | Go geif slouken sex for it, Tekkub |
| 02:03.23 | Xuerian | I have faith! |
| 02:03.28 | Tekkub | I've tried |
| 02:03.32 | Xuerian | :( |
| 02:03.38 | Tekkub | hell I can't even get Zoot to play with his beard for me |
| 02:04.00 | Xinhuan | well you could use LibItemBonus-2.0 |
| 02:04.05 | Tekkub | honestly... we should just make a nice PT-esque mod with all the item's stats |
| 02:04.05 | Xinhuan | its way better |
| 02:04.14 | Antiarc | Ehh. |
| 02:04.28 | Antiarc | It seems like you should be able to do it, even with tip scanning, without being a huge resource whore |
| 02:04.41 | Tekkub | Ehh what? it'd take a lot of memory yes, but it can be highly optomized to take next to no time to load |
| 02:04.58 | Tekkub | I'm never a resource whore, you know that |
| 02:05.00 | Antiarc | "ehh" in that it would suck in the case of missing items |
| 02:05.14 | Xinhuan | also items get updated by blizzard in huge overhauls |
| 02:05.21 | Antiarc | It'd be always playing catchup |
| 02:05.33 | Tekkub | would only need an update every patch, unlike some mods that update every 20 min :) |
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| 02:05.35 | Xinhuan | and not every item is easy to parse |
| 02:05.38 | Tekkub | *HINT* |
| 02:05.47 | Antiarc | brb, updating Omen |
| 02:05.52 | Antiarc | :P |
| 02:06.02 | Tekkub | pulling the data from WoWHead wouldn't be hard |
| 02:06.04 | Antiarc | Really though, there are items left undiscovered even after a patch drops |
| 02:06.07 | Tekkub | I already mine them a bit |
| 02:06.11 | Antiarc | I don't even want to think about trying to update it for WotLK |
| 02:06.16 | Ellipsis | brb, updating omen mid-raid |
| 02:06.23 | Xinhuan | ok consider [Drums of Battle] |
| 02:06.26 | Antiarc | Honestly, you can update Omen mid-raid and it won't matter right now |
| 02:06.30 | Xinhuan | how do you propose to store the data |
| 02:06.33 | Antiarc | I haven't broken the protocol lately. |
| 02:06.40 | Xinhuan | on how many % the haste rating gives |
| 02:06.46 | Xinhuan | and how to modify the tooltip? |
| 02:07.19 | Ellipsis | you don't need to store %s, that's a simple formula |
| 02:07.40 | Xinhuan | you still need to replace the text |
| 02:07.51 | Antiarc | Man, I hate you guys now. I'm really thinking about writing an RB replacement now. |
| 02:07.54 | Xinhuan | which is arguably unique |
| 02:07.59 | durcyn | Antiarc: DO EET |
| 02:08.01 | Ellipsis | do it Antiarc! |
| 02:08.02 | Tekkub | or just append a line |
| 02:08.03 | Antiarc | You know how I get when I see lag-inducing code. |
| 02:08.05 | Xinhuan | its not easy Antiarc :) |
| 02:08.06 | Antiarc | I HAVE NO FREAKING TIME. |
| 02:08.11 | Antiarc | I CANNOT DO THIS RIGHT NOW. |
| 02:08.12 | Tekkub | appending is stupid easy and works great |
| 02:08.14 | Antiarc | BUT I WANT TO. |
| 02:08.18 | Xinhuan | if tekkub says its hard, i'll say its hard hehe |
| 02:08.23 | Xuerian | Resist the URGE, Antiarc! |
| 02:08.26 | Xuerian | It's only lua! |
| 02:08.28 | Ellipsis | it's hard if you want to *clone* RB |
| 02:08.30 | Xuerian | That... needs.. optimizing.. |
| 02:08.38 | Xuerian | It's messy, and dirty, and wants you to fix it... |
| 02:08.42 | Ellipsis | it's a bit simpler if you want to write something better |
| 02:08.55 | Xinhuan | so tekkub, about your "PT item stats" idea |
| 02:09.01 | Xinhuan | how do you propose to deal with random suffixes |
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| 02:09.19 | Tekkub | don't? it's only an issue for greens and a few blues |
| 02:09.29 | Antiarc | Lots of people use greens when levelling. |
| 02:09.30 | Xinhuan | then its an incomplete solution |
| 02:09.34 | Tekkub | greens are easy to campare |
| 02:09.38 | Xinhuan | many ppl use these items for twinks |
| 02:09.42 | Xinhuan | and for comparison |
| 02:09.50 | durcyn | fuck comparison, i just want to see what ratings -> percent |
| 02:09.52 | Tekkub | twinkers can theorycraft outside the game |
| 02:09.53 | Xinhuan | and especially resist gear |
| 02:09.59 | Xinhuan | for end game |
| 02:10.07 | Antiarc | How solid is LibItemBonus-2.0? |
| 02:10.09 | Tekkub | levelers, trust me you don't question gear leveling... |
| 02:10.13 | Ellipsis | how hard is it to figure out resist gear? |
| 02:10.13 | Xinhuan | its pretty solid Antiarc |
| 02:10.23 | Xinhuan | mainly because jerry keeps it up to date |
| 02:10.39 | Tekkub | I still ask, why do you actually care about the percent on a per-item context? |
| 02:10.44 | Tekkub | you have a target percent you want |
| 02:10.52 | Tekkub | you know the target rating to get that percent |
| 02:11.08 | Xinhuan | because its handy to tell people this item gives blah blah blah % dps increase |
| 02:11.21 | Antiarc | what in RB/SLL is causing FPS lag? |
| 02:11.39 | Tekkub | There's a DPS rating out there? :P |
| 02:11.39 | Xinhuan | if i'm a mage, i wouldn't fucking care how many melee hit rating an item gives, i only need to know the % |
| 02:11.53 | Tekkub | %DPS takes more math to figger out :P |
| 02:12.03 | Antiarc | %DPS is a frickin' hard thing to do |
| 02:12.10 | Antiarc | Because it's dependent on so many interdependent factors |
| 02:12.24 | Antiarc | ever peek at those EJ DPS spreadsheets? :P |
| 02:12.27 | Tekkub | if you're a mage... you have a target % spellhit you want, it's what, 9% right? |
| 02:12.36 | Xinhuan | that's irrelevant to what i said |
| 02:12.45 | Tekkub | no it's not |
| 02:13.04 | Tekkub | you get an item, it has more hit rating, you've not reached the cap.... you take the item! |
| 02:13.21 | Xinhuan | not so simple, the formula differs per level |
| 02:13.45 | Xuerian | To make the argument really, really simple... |
| 02:13.46 | Xinhuan | i.e different formula below lvl 60 and above 60 |
| 02:13.56 | Tekkub | seriously, how hard are grea upgrades if you're not 70? I've never had issue |
| 02:13.58 | Antiarc | The problem is that each item has an opportunity cost |
| 02:14.00 | Xinhuan | and in fact different formula below lvl 9 and above 9 |
| 02:14.04 | Xuerian | You obviously have good points Tekkub, and you're right, I agree. But enough people find it useful to use RB :) |
| 02:14.08 | Tekkub | they're always very clearly upgrades |
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| 02:14.18 | Tekkub | I see use in RB yes |
| 02:14.19 | Xinhuan | because people want to know HOW MUCH the upgrade is |
| 02:14.27 | Xinhuan | rather than "yes this is an upgrade" |
| 02:14.34 | Tekkub | I'm asking is it SO useful it justifies the cost |
| 02:14.37 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:14.40 | Xinhuan | for end game raiders, yes |
| 02:14.42 | Tekkub | which is why I dropped tekirate |
| 02:15.07 | Xinhuan | ask around any end game raiding guild, most people will have RB installed |
| 02:15.10 | Tekkub | and I think for the not-obvious upgrades, they should theorycraft OUTSIDE the game |
| 02:15.44 | Xinhuan | i think we disagree then, because its often more useful to be able to compare in game than out of game |
| 02:15.54 | Tekkub | you don't need these decisions on the fly in game... you see the item it's either yes, no, or maybe... if it's maybe and someone else has a yes, give it to them |
| 02:16.21 | Xinhuan | the main problem is most people have a maybe, usually 3 or 4 ppl all think maybe |
| 02:16.23 | Xuerian | If a item drops in a raid that you haven't fully theorycrafted ahead of time, what are you going to do |
| 02:16.26 | kenlyric | bah |
| 02:16.28 | Tekkub | besides that, I think most raiders that care this much about the gear already kno the items they want to get |
| 02:16.30 | kenlyric | all those things sound like work |
| 02:16.34 | kenlyric | I used mods so I don't have to work |
| 02:16.37 | Xuerian | "Hold on guys, let me do teh math, give me 10 mins..." |
| 02:16.48 | durcyn | we had our sunwell loot assigned two months before the patch hit |
| 02:17.00 | Tekkub | exactly dur |
| 02:17.06 | Xuerian | Not all raiding guilds are bleeding edge, but I can see that happening |
| 02:17.09 | Xinhuan | tekkub, you're just not fully appreciating the use, or not seeing it from a different viewpoint |
| 02:17.13 | Xuerian | Nor are all raiders in a guild where loot situations are that solid |
| 02:17.17 | Tekkub | my old 40-man raids were clearly assigned loot |
| 02:17.23 | durcyn | and the only thing i've ever used RB for is "oh, christ, how much rating is 1% at 70 again?" |
| 02:17.26 | kenlyric | also, calculated stats are a bit tougher to figuer out on the fly. |
| 02:17.47 | Xinhuan | in the old raids, the issue was clear because everything was in integer %. an item either gives you 1% crit or 2% crit, not 1.235% crit |
| 02:17.53 | Xuerian | Mine never were, they were always dkp, aside from "X class can't use X, so can't roll" |
| 02:18.08 | Tekkub | they're stil ints Xin :P |
| 02:18.15 | Tekkub | it gives you 10 rating or 11 |
| 02:18.18 | Xinhuan | well 1% is major enough difference |
| 02:18.19 | kenlyric | especially figuring out int + spirit -> mana regen. Nuts to doing htat in my head. |
| 02:18.20 | Tekkub | easy compare there :P |
| 02:18.21 | Xinhuan | 1 rating is minior |
| 02:18.26 | vithos | i don't really find the rating->% useful, since i like comparing rating vs stats |
| 02:18.27 | Xuerian | What about a item with 12 agility and 35 crit rating? |
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| 02:18.47 | Xuerian | Sure you can remember the agi-crit formula, the crit-crit formula, add them together and compare them with your current one in your head |
| 02:18.48 | kenlyric | RB isn't for the items your raid assigns, duh. |
| 02:18.51 | Xinhuan | the conversions are useful, you just don't see it |
| 02:18.55 | vithos | i know that 1 agi is 0.9 dps, and 1 crit rating is 0.785 |
| 02:18.56 | Tekkub | Xuerian, you have to theorycraft that down to DPS |
| 02:19.04 | kenlyric | it's about the hundreds of other random/offspec/alt shit you get |
| 02:19.08 | Xuerian | shrugs. |
| 02:19.37 | stew_a | is the wowace wiki's user db shared with the forum? |
| 02:19.46 | ckknight | no |
| 02:19.50 | Xinhuan | while this is about rating -> % conversions, RB does a bit more than that |
| 02:19.58 | Xinhuan | for example, it does Spirit -> MP5 conversion |
| 02:20.06 | kenlyric | I always wonder why peoplle think that just because they'd never use a mod, it shouldn't exist. |
| 02:20.08 | Xinhuan | very useful for healers |
| 02:20.31 | Xinhuan | another example, mages have a talent that converts Int --> spell damage |
| 02:20.32 | kenlyric | or that's it's a waste of time. |
| 02:20.33 | Xuerian | The summary as a whole is what I find more useful, but I suppose that is irrelevant if the whole discussion is simply the rating breakdown portion of the mod |
| 02:20.46 | Xinhuan | its hard enough multiplying 23 int with 15% to get the spelldmg increase |
| 02:21.33 | Xinhuan | now that the Int and Spi --> MP5 formula has changed, its even more tricky to calculate the MP5 increase now |
| 02:22.48 | durcyn | that being said, a summary appended to the tooltip is fine, rb's comparison and inline percentage conversions are superfluous |
| 02:23.08 | Nandini | for you |
| 02:23.11 | vithos | i could see the spirit calculations being useful |
| 02:23.14 | Xinhuan | the main thing people want to know is, for eg, if an item drops, how much MP5 am i going to gain vs how much healing am i going to lose with this item |
| 02:23.22 | Shirik | Xinhuan: It gets better |
| 02:23.23 | kenlyric | goddamnit |
| 02:23.28 | Shirik | Kings is far more useful to me than wisdom now |
| 02:23.30 | Nandini | thankfully, you can endlessly customize what rb shows you |
| 02:23.32 | kenlyric | they're superfluous for you, not other users |
| 02:23.39 | Shirik | even if kings only gave me spi/int |
| 02:23.52 | durcyn | Nandini: the point is, RB does it badly |
| 02:23.56 | Xinhuan | 10% more int/spi now gives you more mp5 than wisdom? |
| 02:24.02 | Shirik | it gives me 100 |
| 02:24.08 | Shirik | well it gives me 100 ooc |
| 02:24.14 | Shirik | which translates into 30 in combat |
| 02:24.25 | Shirik | I'll take that over 49 in combat any day, especially when I'm usually out of the 5sr |
| 02:24.59 | kenlyric | wait |
| 02:25.07 | Shirik | then tack onto the fact that I'm getting raised max mana, more stamina, more +healing |
| 02:25.08 | Xinhuan | the tooltips RB generates also depends on your current buffs |
| 02:25.08 | kenlyric | why are you choosing between kings and wisdom? |
| 02:25.10 | kenlyric | only one pally? |
| 02:25.12 | Shirik | I'm not |
| 02:25.17 | Shirik | but if we only have one pally (5 mans, etc) |
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| 02:25.19 | Shirik | or ZA |
| 02:25.28 | Shirik | then that's what I go with |
| 02:25.35 | Xinhuan | so if you want to compare in a buffed situation vs unbuffed, you can do it |
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| 02:25.55 | Xinhuan | and the conversions and summary both help |
| 02:26.01 | Shirik | But I think I have too much spirit |
| 02:26.35 | Xinhuan | theorycrafting out of game is messy when a mod can do it for you ingame |
| 02:27.14 | Funkeh` | shapeshift button dosn't like being hidden |
| 02:27.17 | Funkeh` | taintz |
| 02:27.21 | kenlyric | arguing that RB could me made better is always useful. Arguing it is unnecessary is idiotic |
| 02:27.27 | Funkeh` | moves it off the screen |
| 02:27.28 | kenlyric | Lightheaded is also unnecessary |
| 02:27.54 | Ellipsis | addons are unnecessary, gb2defaultUI |
| 02:27.55 | kenlyric | so omen |
| 02:27.57 | kenlyric | l2threat! |
| 02:28.00 | Xuerian | Exactly XD |
| 02:28.21 | Funkeh` | gb .. |
| 02:28.27 | Shirik | I gain 51 int, 57 spirit from kings. Is the int/spirit -> mp5 linear or? |
| 02:28.34 | CIA-40 | 03phanx * r72021 10Numen/NumenButtons.lua: |
| 02:28.34 | CIA-40 | Numen: |
| 02:28.35 | CIA-40 | - You can now right-click a button to destroy that element's totem. |
| 02:28.35 | CIA-40 | - Many thanks to jjsheets for his assistance! |
| 02:28.42 | Shirik | quickly, I need a calculus guru! Give me d/dn(int/spirit) |
| 02:28.49 | JJSheets | aw shucks. :p |
| 02:29.28 | kenlyric | well, you'll always have an appreciative RB user *here* |
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| 02:33.30 | vithos | Toadkiller: you there? |
| 02:34.14 | CIA-40 | 03phanx * r72022 10Numen/NumenButtons.lua: Numen: Added missing line. |
| 02:34.14 | Megalon | Shirik: Regen_mp5 = 5*0.00932715221261 * sqrt(Int) * Spirit hf :p |
| 02:34.14 | ckknight | calculus is fun |
| 02:34.23 | Shirik | hm |
| 02:34.26 | Shirik | sooo |
| 02:35.02 | vithos | Toadkiller: http://i32.tinypic.com/2yl5wkw.jpg lots of duplicate categories showing up in the list atm |
| 02:35.10 | Shirik | dm/di = 5*0.00932715221261*(-1/2)*int^(-1/2)*spirit |
| 02:35.36 | Shirik | dm/ds = 5*0.0093715221261*(1/2)*sqrt(int) |
| 02:35.41 | Shirik | oh wow, the dm/ds is a simple formula |
| 02:35.52 | Shirik | intellect, on the other hand, does something strange |
| 02:36.09 | Shirik | lua> 5*0.0093715221261*0.5 |
| 02:36.09 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.02342880531525 |
| 02:36.32 | Shirik | so per intellect, you get 0.023428 mp5 per spirit |
| 02:36.55 | Xuerian | One begins to question... |
| 02:37.06 | Xuerian | What blizzard employee was on crack when this formula was redesigned |
| 02:37.15 | Shirik | I love it |
| 02:37.21 | Shirik | I'm about to break 1k mp5 raid buffed |
| 02:37.31 | Xuerian | o_0; |
| 02:37.33 | VonhintenHOME` | we have a druid that has already |
| 02:37.36 | Chaud | Needs nerf |
| 02:37.37 | Odlaw | 1/0 |
| 02:37.45 | Odlaw | Compute that |
| 02:37.53 | Corgan | lua> 1/0 |
| 02:37.53 | lua_bot | Corgan: inf |
| 02:37.55 | Corgan | :< |
| 02:37.55 | Shirik | +/- inf |
| 02:37.58 | Odlaw | pfft |
| 02:38.34 | Shirik | technically it's undefined, because it depends on what side of the function you are coming from. But most people just agree it's +/- inf |
| 02:39.08 | Shirik | Anyway, it gets better when I have innervate |
| 02:39.08 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:39.17 | Shirik | I get all my mana back in no time |
| 02:39.39 | Xinhuan | do you swap in a spirit weapon/wand? ;p |
| 02:39.47 | Shirik | don't need to :P |
| 02:39.50 | Shirik | that would be a bit overkill |
| 02:39.58 | Shirik | as it stands now I have a couple of useless ticks of innervate |
| 02:40.02 | Xinhuan | and would probably interrupt your cast anyway |
| 02:40.29 | Shirik | I should have a ss here somewhere |
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| 02:40.46 | Xinhuan | i sometimes half wonder if mods should be allowed to auto swap your weapons in combat |
| 02:41.00 | vithos | they probably shouldn't |
| 02:41.30 | CIA-40 | 03onlyfly * r72023 10Routes/Locales/Locale-zhCN.lua: |
| 02:41.30 | CIA-40 | Routes: |
| 02:41.30 | CIA-40 | - Update locale zhCN |
| 02:41.42 | vithos | it's actually worth it for me to write a mod to autoswap bows depending on iAotH/DST/haste pots/drums/heroism |
| 02:41.48 | vithos | dpswise |
| 02:41.55 | vithos | but i'm too lazy! |
| 02:42.17 | azraelo | Anyone know if Omen has draggable bars yet? |
| 02:42.32 | Xinhuan | it doesn't |
| 02:43.05 | azraelo | Darn |
| 02:43.10 | azraelo | Any idea if it's in the works? |
| 02:43.23 | Xuerian | Why not ask Antiarc? >_> |
| 02:44.08 | Shirik | :< I only have an old ss |
| 02:44.20 | Antiarc | Draggable bars aren't in yet, but charon is working on them |
| 02:44.41 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/9e26e19cd6ebf36db3eaaef72bdfbaf5.jpg |
| 02:44.47 | Shirik | It's closer to 980 now |
| 02:45.40 | Xuerian | Holy crap o.0; |
| 02:45.41 | azraelo | antiarc: Sweet |
| 02:46.17 | Xuerian | Shirik: I take it your theory is more mp5 > more +heal? |
| 02:46.21 | Shirik | not really |
| 02:46.24 | Shirik | my gear was just bad at the time |
| 02:46.29 | Shirik | I'm now up to 2100 raid buffed healing |
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| 02:46.42 | Xuerian | x_x |
| 02:46.43 | Shirik | but I do agree with the fact that going much higher is pointless for meal |
| 02:46.44 | Shirik | me* |
| 02:46.58 | Shirik | I already have about 60% overheal consistently |
| 02:47.04 | Shirik | more +healing will just go straight into overheal |
| 02:47.14 | Shirik | on the other hand, more mp5 will allow me to do more |
| 02:47.28 | kenlyric | mp5... are you a shaman? |
| 02:47.35 | Xuerian | What, allow you to act more like a paladin? |
| 02:47.42 | Shirik | ha, no |
| 02:47.47 | Shirik | I refuse to be a paladin! |
| 02:47.52 | Xuerian | "And I sit in the corner and go like this with my fingers! <WoooOooOoOoOOoo>" |
| 02:48.57 | Shirik | anyway, since that SS was taken I've replaced my helm, pants, weapon |
| 02:49.08 | Shirik | I think that's it |
| 02:49.25 | Xuerian | What's the mod with the little robe icon on the char frame? |
| 02:49.25 | Shirik | I need to get the new alchemist's stone |
| 02:49.37 | Shirik | outfitter |
| 02:49.55 | Xuerian | Figured it was one of the three... Nice on the gear though :p |
| 02:50.20 | Shirik | funny thing is, though |
| 02:50.30 | Shirik | I only have one piece from T6 content |
| 02:50.55 | Shirik | I find it odd more people aren't geared like this |
| 02:51.52 | Xuerian | I don't even gear myself that high in wowequip :p |
| 02:55.46 | Xinhuan | its funny when all the priests in your guild statr asking you for 10 spi gems ;p |
| 02:56.00 | Xinhuan | and i'm like sure, there's 40 of those useless things in the bank |
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| 03:05.26 | Xuerian | rolls around laughing. |
| 03:05.30 | Xuerian | Best way to annoy rogues ever |
| 03:05.54 | Xuerian | Play a enh shammy with shield spec/toughness/shield/earthskin/poison cleansing |
| 03:06.11 | Shirik | no |
| 03:06.19 | Shirik | play a shammy and interrupt EVERY DAMN MANA BURN |
| 03:06.30 | Xuerian | Well I always do that to priests.. |
| 03:06.34 | Antiarc | Playing an enh shammy is a good way to make me smile |
| 03:06.35 | Xuerian | Grounding totem works too |
| 03:06.41 | Shirik | exactly |
| 03:06.43 | Antiarc | Because I like free kills |
| 03:06.45 | Shirik | when I finally get one off "lol grounded" |
| 03:08.01 | Xuerian | Antiarc: I never said I kill them |
| 03:08.37 | Xuerian | But I'm doing ab on my 60 shaman (yes, the 60-69 bracket), and a 66 rogue kills me, and only me, whenever he sees me. He'll die while trying or just after, but so long as he gets to teabag me, well |
| 03:08.40 | Xuerian | lol |
| 03:08.53 | Tasky | noob question alert |
| 03:09.07 | Tasky | ahh nvm |
| 03:09.19 | CIA-40 | 03jwensley2 * r72024 10MageAnnounce/ (Locale-enUS.lua MageAnnounce.lua): |
| 03:09.19 | CIA-40 | MageAnnounce: |
| 03:09.19 | CIA-40 | - reordered menu options |
| 03:10.04 | Xuerian | Antiarc: What do you play, anyway? |
| 03:10.11 | Antiarc | rogue |
| 03:10.22 | Xuerian | Figures >.>. |
| 03:10.32 | Antiarc | enh shaman are probably my easiest kill :P |
| 03:10.40 | Antiarc | Maybe holy priests. |
| 03:10.42 | Xuerian | We're really easy to kill |
| 03:10.45 | Megalon | Antiarc: not the shamans fault ;) |
| 03:10.50 | Xuerian | Especially if we try to kill you back |
| 03:10.54 | Xuerian | But if we don't, we can be a royal pain :D |
| 03:11.12 | Antiarc | well |
| 03:11.17 | Antiarc | If you don't try to kill me I just ignore you :P |
| 03:11.42 | Xuerian | Ignore me and I cleanse your poisons, heal your targets, flame shock/earthbind you, and smack you while you run around |
| 03:11.50 | Antiarc | Hahah, enh healing? |
| 03:11.59 | Antiarc | Well, you'll get two heals off before you're OOM anyhow :P |
| 03:12.21 | Xuerian | I get about seven LHW's, and that's plenty to keep someone who would be on equal ground with you, alive long enough to kill you |
| 03:12.33 | Antiarc | assuming I don't have a healer too, sure. |
| 03:12.41 | Xuerian | If you have a healer, I'm eating it alive :p |
| 03:13.09 | Antiarc | All I know is that enh shamans are just barely above feral druids on the threat-o-meter in arenas :P |
| 03:13.25 | Xuerian | Ah, well I'll concede arenas completely. |
| 03:13.30 | Xuerian | I mean battlegrounds. |
| 03:13.43 | Antiarc | Oh. Battlegrounds are just about superior firepower :P |
| 03:13.55 | Tasky | hm |
| 03:14.07 | Xuerian | What, you kill faster you win? |
| 03:14.13 | Tasky | can you have nested tables? |
| 03:14.17 | Xuerian | yes |
| 03:14.25 | Xuerian | Anything can be in a table |
| 03:14.38 | Xuerian | String/function/table/itself/you/etc |
| 03:14.55 | Tasky | and if i create a temporary, local variable inside a function, and add it to a global table, the value is preserved until the global table is made nil? |
| 03:15.01 | Tasky | table * |
| 03:15.59 | Tasky | i guess ill just find out :) |
| 03:16.05 | Xuerian | Also, Antiarc, why are you mocking my two favorite specs :( |
| 03:16.32 | Antiarc | Battlegrounds with T6 is a hell of a lot of fun |
| 03:16.36 | Antiarc | I two-shotted a mage the other day |
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| 03:16.42 | Antiarc | As a combat rogue without any real "burst" |
| 03:17.03 | Antiarc | The mage was all "lol, frozen wrath greens" |
| 03:17.15 | Antiarc | And I was all "lol, 2.6k SS crit" |
| 03:17.25 | Antiarc | And the mage was all ":(" |
| 03:17.48 | Xuerian | That just leaves you with a warm, fuzzy feeling |
| 03:18.16 | Fisker- | dances |
| 03:22.32 | vithos | i love BGs in T6 as a hunter |
| 03:22.54 | vithos | especially BM spec |
| 03:23.17 | Xuerian | I hate bm hunters -_- |
| 03:23.24 | vithos | especially EoTS. i just ride up to the edge of a base and blow up 7 people out of sight |
| 03:23.27 | Xuerian | What's that? Oh hai big red unstoppable furry ball of hate |
| 03:24.28 | Ellipsis | that's what she said |
| 03:24.50 | Xuerian | We're not talking about Tekkub's love partner |
| 03:24.54 | Xuerian | hides |
| 03:26.17 | Tasky | ok |
| 03:36.24 | Xinhuan | ~alerts |
| 03:36.26 | Xinhuan | ~alert |
| 03:36.27 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 03:36.46 | Xinhuan | ~wowalert |
| 03:36.46 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
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| 03:40.38 | Apoco | twins down |
| 03:40.40 | Apoco | :( |
| 03:42.11 | dylanm | Apoco: Congratulations! |
| 03:42.16 | Apoco | ty |
| 03:43.02 | dylanm | Been a while since a kill meant something. |
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| 03:46.51 | Nandini | !points 1557 |
| 03:46.51 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 03:47.04 | Nandini | !ar 1557 |
| 03:47.13 | Nandini | !ap 1557 |
| 03:48.32 | Peoii | argh |
| 03:48.42 | Peoii | 4 bloody gold spams tonight, while raiding. |
| 03:48.45 | Peoii | and that's just so far |
| 03:49.00 | Peoii | DGamespy dot com <-- they can die in a bloody fire. |
| 03:49.26 | Megalon | they pay you to spam it ingame while raiding and on irc? |
| 03:49.33 | Megalon | :P |
| 03:50.22 | Peoii | lol |
| 03:50.42 | Peoii | No, but I figured if Funkeh` happens to see it here before I can post it on the forums, so much the better yea? |
| 03:51.18 | Funkeh` | eh? |
| 03:51.42 | Peoii | DGamespy dot com for Badboy... |
| 03:51.53 | Funkeh` | oh, right |
| 03:52.04 | Funkeh` | sorry Im half alseep |
| 03:52.42 | Peoii | haha, all good :) |
| 03:53.55 | Funkeh` | you will need to get someone else to commit on wednesday - sunday Ill be away slacking |
| 03:54.38 | Primer | !raing 1416 |
| 03:54.43 | Primer | !rating 1416 |
| 03:54.43 | Xinhuan | 1416 rating gives 325(5s), 286(3s) and 247(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 03:55.07 | Funkeh` | Peoii, "dot" or . |
| 03:55.33 | Peoii | dot |
| 03:55.57 | Hydrogen | !rating 2243 |
| 03:55.57 | Xinhuan | 2243 rating gives 1303(5s), 1147(3s) and 991(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 03:56.15 | Hydrogen | !points 90000 |
| 03:56.15 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 03:56.24 | Hydrogen | :/ |
| 03:56.26 | Kaaosa | Owned |
| 03:56.56 | Hydrogen | I was totally it up from all 60 of my characters |
| 03:56.59 | Hydrogen | clearly |
| 03:57.32 | Paene | ~API GetItemInfo |
| 03:57.35 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
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| 04:00.10 | CIA-40 | 03funkydude * r72025 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: added to blacklist |
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| 04:14.49 | Odlaw | do enemy name plates have any frame you can attach other frames to? |
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| 04:15.13 | Odlaw | or any way of attaching a frame to a mob itself |
| 04:15.42 | Arrowmaster | yes but they are secure |
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| 04:20.28 | CIA-40 | 03starlon * r72026 10oUF_Castbar/oUF_Castbar.lua: oUF_Castbar: Remove some debug output |
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| 04:30.50 | CIA-40 | 03sayclub * r72027 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/ (. GridStatusRaidDebuff.toc embeds.xml): |
| 04:30.50 | CIA-40 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 04:30.50 | CIA-40 | - Added embeds.xml (LibBabble-Zone-3.0, LibBabble-Boss-3.0) |
| 04:40.39 | Paene | I've recently discovered the wonderfulness that is pairs() |
| 04:40.45 | Paene | I never knew about it before |
| 04:40.48 | Paene | it's so nice |
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| 04:41.37 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 04:41.51 | Paene | you don't wanna know how I was doing things before |
| 04:42.00 | Paene | it's not very nice looking |
| 04:42.15 | Xinhuan | i don't want to know either! |
| 04:42.28 | Paene | one of these days, I'll actually finish reading PIL |
| 04:42.35 | Paene | lol |
| 04:43.06 | Xinhuan | PIL is easily readable within 2 hours in entirety |
| 04:43.14 | Paene | I'm lazy |
| 04:43.15 | Paene | lol |
| 04:43.17 | Paene | and impatient |
| 04:43.38 | Xinhuan | "doing it right" the first time saves you more time hehe |
| 04:44.36 | Paene | yeah... |
| 04:45.15 | CIA-40 | 03paene * r72028 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 04:45.15 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 04:45.15 | CIA-40 | - Added reagent restocking module (note: ReagentList is currently drycoded for testing purposes, it needs to be generated when detecting the class's spells/abilites) |
| 04:45.22 | Paene | I was always like "It'd be so nice if I could loop through things indexed by strings"... |
| 04:45.30 | Paene | and it turns out I can! |
| 04:47.14 | starlon | Read more code :) |
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| 04:51.08 | CIA-40 | 03toadkiller * r72029 10AutoBar/ (8 files): |
| 04:51.08 | CIA-40 | AutoBar : |
| 04:51.08 | CIA-40 | -- Fix some code necrosis |
| 04:51.08 | CIA-40 | -- The left click spell + the right click spell counts are split into <left click spell count>/<right click spell count> |
| 04:51.08 | CIA-40 | -- AutoBarButton.lua:1481: attempt to concatenate local 'itemName' fixed |
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| 04:52.28 | azraelo | Anyone know of a mod that will auto-buy stuff in the AH based on what I say....like....buy all cloth that's < 3 gold per 20 |
| 04:53.21 | pastamancer | go get auctioneer advanced and use bottomfeeder |
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| 04:58.45 | azraelo | who asked you! |
| 05:00.06 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: per earlier discussion about LFP-3.0... |
| 05:00.17 | Zhinjio | is this OnMenuRequest thing needed? |
| 05:00.24 | NivFreak | I just always want the ability to buy the 10 cheapest X out of the AH with one click |
| 05:00.29 | Xinhuan | think so |
| 05:00.34 | Zhinjio | I don't get a menu if I don't set it to my options table, but its really not documented anywhere |
| 05:00.38 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:01.14 | vithos | i hate feign death |
| 05:01.25 | vithos | fucking felmyst aura ticks while i do it, causing it to silently fail |
| 05:01.27 | vithos | and then i wipe the raid |
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| 05:09.37 | Zhinjio | question about LoD |
| 05:10.18 | Zhinjio | is it possible to have multiple files in a single module or does that require a distinct TOC, etc. |
| 05:11.03 | Zhinjio | further, I've seen at least one case where an addon lists a lua file in its modules.xml file, and yet the directory where the module is *still* contains a TOC file |
| 05:11.12 | Zhinjio | even though I can't see how its ever referenced. |
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| 05:12.09 | Paene | Anyone see why this isn't working? I'm trying to add options to configOptions based on the values in the ReagentList table: http://ace.pastey.net/86858 |
| 05:12.44 | dylanm | Zhinjio: I don't understand your first question, but as for the second... I mean you see it all the time with embeds where you want to include the lib.xml file if the library is embedded but if it's unembedded you need a toc obviously. |
| 05:13.05 | dylanm | And when svn pulls those in it's not being particularly clever. |
| 05:13.16 | Zhinjio | dylanm: yeah, I've never really understand that either. I always run disembedded. |
| 05:14.59 | Zhinjio | maybe I'll try rephrasing the first question... um... |
| 05:15.16 | Zhinjio | I have a block of code that I want to turn into an LoD module. |
| 05:15.16 | dylanm | Are you asking whether you can load additional files without there being a separate subdirectory of AddOns with at a minimum a toc file? |
| 05:15.44 | Zhinjio | I think so? I do have a subdirectory. |
| 05:15.58 | Zhinjio | In my current thinking, it will contain a LUA file and a series of locale files |
| 05:15.58 | krka | Zhinjio: Lua is not an acronym. It is a Portuguese word that means moon. |
| 05:16.00 | dylanm | Well, keep going. |
| 05:16.09 | Zhinjio | of ffs krka, shut that shit off. |
| 05:16.26 | Zhinjio | anyway. |
| 05:16.53 | Zhinjio | in the examples of LoD stuff I've looked at, the module is specified with a reference to a lua file in the modules.xml file |
| 05:17.03 | Zhinjio | but that just refers to a single file |
| 05:17.03 | krka | ffs, don't misspell it then |
| 05:18.13 | exor674 | case is NOT misplling :P |
| 05:18.15 | Zhinjio | if I always want the locale files pulled in when the module loads, I need more than just that reference, no? |
| 05:18.27 | dylanm | That's one way to do it. |
| 05:19.01 | dylanm | I think that's how BigWigs does it... just a lotttt of <Script> includes for each subdir. |
| 05:19.40 | dylanm | You're talking about optionally-LoD stuff that sits within the addon otherwise. |
| 05:20.00 | Zhinjio | bigwigs ones also include the TOC... I suppose thats just in case someone wanted to pull it out and make a separate addon from it? |
| 05:20.11 | Jaxon | So I like Auctioneer's list view in the AH but I don't really scan, are there any lighter mods anyone can think of? |
| 05:20.38 | dylanm | Jaxon: If you just want a nice AH interface try Baud Auction. |
| 05:21.00 | dylanm | Zhinjio: Huh? |
| 05:21.40 | Jaxon | dylanm: wowi? |
| 05:21.50 | dylanm | Jaxon: Just Curse, sadly. |
| 05:22.27 | CIA-40 | 03whitetooth * r72030 10Chatter/Modules/Telltarget.lua: |
| 05:22.27 | CIA-40 | Chatter: |
| 05:22.27 | CIA-40 | - Telltarget: now works with targets not in the same area |
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| 05:23.07 | dylanm | Not that I don't love Curse people but the site is impossible to navigate. |
| 05:24.20 | Jaxon | dylanm: thanks. And I don't bother navigating sites anymore, mostly just use "baud auction site:curse.com" searches in google |
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| 05:28.33 | CIA-40 | 03sayclub * r72031 10GridStatusStrings/ (GridStatusStrings.toc GridStatusStringsLocale-koKR.lua): |
| 05:28.33 | CIA-40 | GridStatusStrings: |
| 05:28.33 | CIA-40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.47 | vithos | yay felmyst down |
| 05:35.04 | vithos | i disconnected during flight phase |
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| 05:35.08 | vithos | and i'm the guy who calls breaths |
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| 05:36.03 | CIA-40 | 03paene * r72032 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 05:36.03 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 05:36.03 | CIA-40 | - Added options to adjust values in the reagent list (Reagent restocking module is now complete) |
| 05:38.06 | CIA-40 | 03jjsheets * r72033 10ButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade/LibButtonFacade.lua: |
| 05:38.06 | CIA-40 | ButtonFacade: |
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| 05:40.40 | Zhinjio | apparently, dylanm and I speak different languags. |
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| 05:44.09 | Paene | What's a good frame strata for addon frames? I can't seem to find anything about what strata level blizz's UI uses |
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| 05:51.21 | CIA-40 | 03paene 07core * r72034 10Cryolysis3/frames.lua: |
| 05:51.21 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 05:51.21 | CIA-40 | - Adjusted frame strata to Blizz's frames overlaps our mod's frames |
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| 06:17.25 | CIA-40 | 03paene * r72035 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (15 files in 15 dirs): |
| 06:17.25 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 06:17.25 | CIA-40 | - Added message system chat channel option |
| 06:17.25 | CIA-40 | - Added locale folders for all modules |
| 06:20.57 | CIA-40 | 03orionshock * r72036 10GuildCraft/ChatChannelComms.lua: GuildCraft: ChatChannelComms works now... might actually implement this in the future but isn't requested. |
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| 06:23.09 | Orionshock | ^^ took a while.. but it does work :D |
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| 06:25.57 | Zynderps | blah! |
| 06:26.09 | CIA-40 | 03Vig * r72037 10AssignAssist/ (7 files): |
| 06:26.09 | CIA-40 | AssignAssist: |
| 06:26.09 | CIA-40 | - working on the communication channel |
| 06:26.22 | Zynderps | SetFacing() is pissing on my face |
| 06:27.26 | Orionshock | anyone tried DailyQuestTracker ? |
| 06:28.29 | Jaxon | Yeah |
| 06:28.29 | Zyndrome | how do I get the bloody 3D-portrait to stay in the facing I want (oUF) :( |
| 06:28.35 | Orionshock | any good? |
| 06:28.57 | Jaxon | I wasn't doing enough per day to not be able to remember what I did and didn't do, but it was nice. |
| 06:31.53 | CIA-40 | 03Vig * r72038 10AssignAssist/todo.txt: |
| 06:31.53 | CIA-40 | AssignAssist: |
| 06:31.53 | CIA-40 | - todo.txt |
| 06:39.05 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72039 10LibDataBroker-1.0/: Folder for "pure" DO examples |
| 06:39.49 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72040 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DO_Durability/ (. DO_Durability.toc DurabilityDO.lua): |
| 06:39.49 | CIA-40 | DO_Durability: |
| 06:39.50 | CIA-40 | - Initial import. A DO that provides durability data. |
| 06:41.02 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72041 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DODisp_ArmorChatSpam/ (58 files in 15 dirs): |
| 06:41.02 | CIA-40 | DODisp_ArmorChatSpam: |
| 06:41.02 | CIA-40 | - Initial import. A DO Display for armor slot data spamming to chat. |
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| 06:42.25 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72042 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DODisp_ArmoredMan/ (58 files in 15 dirs): |
| 06:42.25 | CIA-40 | DODisp_ArmoredMan: |
| 06:42.26 | CIA-40 | - Initial import. A DO Display for armor slot data using copy of the Armored Man. |
| 06:43.06 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72043 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DODisp_ArmorChatSpam/libs/: Removed file/folder |
| 06:43.25 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72044 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DODisp_ArmoredMan/libs/: Removed file/folder |
| 06:44.06 | Orionshock | this libdatabroker is a mess, i don't see it becoming viable any time soon... unless someone just owns up and does it and pisses on everything else. |
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| 06:44.53 | Zhinjio | Nargiddley: !! |
| 06:45.03 | CIA-40 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r72045 10Grid/ (Grid/ Grid2/): |
| 06:45.03 | CIA-40 | Grid2: (Ace3 branch) |
| 06:45.03 | CIA-40 | _ Rename the branch Grid2 |
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| 06:49.24 | Nargiddley | Zhinjio, whats up ? |
| 06:49.41 | ckknight | I've had too much caffeine |
| 06:49.43 | Zhinjio | was just talking about you today! I was nagging someone about Baggins and stuff. |
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| 06:50.03 | ckknight | it's like, almost 2 AM, I'm awake, and drawing up UML diagrams |
| 06:50.06 | ckknight | it's just not right |
| 06:50.08 | Zhinjio | are you still playing WoW at all? I was led to understand you're not playing anymore. |
| 06:50.30 | Nargiddley | I still play |
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| 06:50.40 | Zhinjio | cool. |
| 06:51.08 | Kalroth | ckknight: Blame the creators of UML on that |
| 06:51.32 | ckknight | Kalroth: meh, it's the best way to convey a class diagram in graphical form that I know of |
| 06:51.58 | Kalroth | The source code is documentation enough! |
| 06:52.08 | ckknight | yea, especially seeing as there's no source code |
| 06:52.15 | ckknight | at least for what I drew up |
| 06:52.26 | Kalroth | So you're saying that you're slacking?! Figures. |
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| 06:52.51 | ckknight | although I agree that code is only in sync with code |
| 06:52.52 | ckknight | :-P |
| 06:53.03 | Kalroth | haha |
| 06:53.14 | ckknight | but as an initial step, UML's not a bad idea |
| 06:53.19 | ckknight | just don't treat it as dogma |
| 06:53.21 | Kalroth | Naw, we use UML for a few things here, it's just that it gets uhmm |
| 06:53.24 | Kalroth | yeah, exactly |
| 06:53.37 | ckknight | it's a good way to explain overall design of things |
| 06:53.40 | Kalroth | "WHY DID YOU NOT DRAW A LAYER2 UML DIAGRAM FOR THAT BUTTON" |
| 06:53.46 | ckknight | but on the nitty-gritty, not a great idea |
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| 06:54.20 | Zhinjio | alright, lets see how badly this blows up |
| 06:54.27 | ckknight | what I drew up is basically my idea for a repository management system with forks taken into account |
| 06:54.46 | Zhinjio | KABOOM! |
| 06:55.08 | ckknight | lol |
| 06:55.12 | Zhinjio | hrm. |
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| 06:57.45 | CIA-40 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r72046 10LibDataBroker-1.0/LibDataBroker-1.0/ (13 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:57.45 | CIA-40 | LibDataBroker-1.0: |
| 06:57.45 | CIA-40 | - readded LS and CBH |
| 06:57.45 | CIA-40 | - pushed TOC |
| 06:57.45 | CIA-40 | - changed directory structure for better embedding |
| 06:57.46 | CIA-40 | - added Revision keyword to lua file |
| 06:59.37 | CIA-40 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r72047 10LibDataBroker-1.0/LibDataBroker-1.0/tests/ (. LibDataBroker-1.0 tests.lua wow_api.lua): LibDataBroker-1.0: moved the test file in here |
| 07:00.17 | Zhinjio | ckknight: one quick thing about ... uh ... :AddTranslations calls. |
| 07:00.27 | Zhinjio | so you can only call this once per ... uh ... translation? |
| 07:00.30 | Zhinjio | is that right? |
| 07:00.33 | CIA-40 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r72048 10LibDataBroker-1.0/LibDataBroker-1.0 tests/: LibDataBroker-1.0: removing seperate test directory |
| 07:00.36 | ckknight | once per locale |
| 07:01.02 | Zhinjio | so if I want to have some more strings only defined in a module... I need a new namespace |
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| 07:05.09 | Zhinjio | maybe I shouldn't be coding today. nothing's making any fucking sense. |
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| 07:11.34 | CIA-40 | 03Vig * r72049 10AssignAssist/ (AssignAssist.lua AssignAssistUI.lua Raid.lua Unit.lua): |
| 07:11.35 | CIA-40 | AssignAssist: |
| 07:11.35 | CIA-40 | - workaround for Unit.lua, identifying mbs or chars by name, GUID doesnt work |
| 07:11.35 | CIA-40 | - selected target can be a mob or character |
| 07:12.22 | CIA-40 | 03elkano 07Elkano * r72050 10LibDataBroker-1.0/LibDataBroker-1.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs): LibDataBroker-1.0: setting attribute to its current value wont fire AttributeChanged anymore |
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| 07:22.06 | Dexius | .... You'll have to forgive me.... I'm having this weird/creepy/geeky/coder-fan boy moment. ^_^ |
| 07:22.09 | Dexius | Hello all! |
| 07:22.47 | Recluse | ello |
| 07:24.54 | Orionshock | Dexius: lol, me thinks thats normal to an extent :D |
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| 07:27.08 | vithos | anyone know of an addon for pasting multiple lines of text? |
| 07:27.35 | AvitusLC | Just uploaded a new mod if anyone is interested: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8809-SimpleDrumAnnounce.html (thanks Ammo/funkeh) |
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| 07:29.52 | Elkano | ~seen elsia |
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| 07:32.20 | CIA-40 | 03javek * r72052 10GnomeCruncher/ (GnomeCruncher.lua GnomeCruncher.toc Gui.lua): |
| 07:32.20 | CIA-40 | GnomeCruncher: |
| 07:32.21 | CIA-40 | * Custom variables are now safely contained in the GnomeCruncher global |
| 07:32.21 | CIA-40 | * New roundDigits option |
| 07:32.21 | CIA-40 | * Help text improved |
| 07:32.21 | CIA-40 | * Link to wiki page and ace forum |
| 07:32.23 | CIA-40 | * Now uses the default profile instead of char DB. |
| 07:32.30 | Dexius | I have a quick question.... I'm looking for a mod that will allow me to import textures to use in my UI. I found a ui that was pretty awesome in terms of simplicity. SpartanUI v2.0. It's very well polished, with the majority of the information in the bottom section of the screen. The problem is that it has a circular minimap in the middle of the ui, and I'd like it to be square. |
| 07:32.57 | Dexius | Unfortunately, there is a texture over the map that blocks a nice view of Squeenix |
| 07:33.19 | Dexius | I'd even like it if I could import my own textures for warcraft. |
| 07:33.51 | Dexius | I don't suppose there is a mod/tool that I could use to do that? |
| 07:34.07 | Zhinjio | Dexius : eepanels2 |
| 07:34.14 | Dexius | or even a general direction that someone will point me in would work. ^_^ |
| 07:34.54 | Dexius | for some reason, I just thought eepanels2 only changed it to a dark, semi-translucent backround |
| 07:35.01 | Dexius | Thank you, Zhinjio |
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| 07:36.40 | Dexius | Thanks. Goodnight. =) |
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| 07:39.02 | Xinhuan | so |
| 07:39.07 | Xinhuan | someone just linked me this |
| 07:39.10 | Paene | ? |
| 07:39.12 | Xinhuan | http://eu.wowarmory.com/team-info.xml?r=Burning+Legion&ts=2&t=DonLolo+z+Wladem&select=DonLolo+z+Wladem&fl=1 |
| 07:39.23 | Xinhuan | 3000 team rating, 3v3 |
| 07:39.29 | Xinhuan | cheat much? |
| 07:39.37 | Paene | wow |
| 07:39.44 | Xinhuan | sorry, its a 2v2 |
| 07:39.54 | Xinhuan | pally-rogue |
| 07:40.42 | Paene | how does one cheat in arenas? |
| 07:40.55 | Paene | I don't do arenas at all, so I didn't know it was possible |
| 07:41.10 | Zhinjio | <-- pvp clueless. |
| 07:41.12 | Elkano | win-trading |
| 07:41.17 | Paene | ah ic |
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| 07:43.46 | AvitusLC | Is that 3k rating some sort of bug or something? |
| 07:44.00 | Xinhuan | probably win trading |
| 07:44.19 | AvitusLC | How far can you get with win trading though. Holy paladin in 2v2 really does not sound so great. |
| 07:44.27 | AvitusLC | Or is Bloodlust bg easy or something |
| 07:44.43 | Xinhuan | uh its on europe |
| 07:45.06 | Xinhuan | you just get team A to queue, and team B to queue. IF both teams have the "enter arena" popup at the same time, they they know they will face each other, and both teams enter, one side loses intentionally |
| 07:45.27 | Xinhuan | at the moment, you face no penalty if your entire team doesn't join the arena when it pops up (i think) |
| 07:45.45 | AvitusLC | hmm |
| 07:45.46 | Xinhuan | this is supposed to be fixed in 2.4.2 |
| 07:45.54 | Xinhuan | as mentioned in patch notes |
| 07:46.33 | Xinhuan | so you just keep queueing until you know you meet each other |
| 07:46.34 | AvitusLC | still 3k is obscene even for win trading. You'd have to win trade with another 2.5k team just to get points |
| 07:47.02 | Xinhuan | win trading can be a bit extreme, you just need enough 2v2 teams and alts to bring each team up via stepping stone |
| 07:48.11 | Paene | is there a compiled list of 2.4.2 UI changes? |
| 07:48.18 | Xinhuan | check UI forums sticky |
| 07:48.33 | Paene | I see 2.4... |
| 07:48.41 | Xinhuan | should be the same thread |
| 07:48.45 | CIA-40 | 03ennuilg * r72053 10/branches/scorchio_0.70_NOS/core.lua: |
| 07:48.45 | CIA-40 | scorchio: |
| 07:48.45 | CIA-40 | - Update text on existing bars correctly |
| 07:48.54 | Xinhuan | just read the first few posts |
| 07:48.57 | Paene | ah ic |
| 07:48.58 | Xinhuan | and the last few |
| 07:49.23 | CIA-40 | 03lockhead * r72054 10Goldicola/ (. Core.lua): Goldicola: added XArt functionality |
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| 07:50.32 | Paene | booo nothing about AURA_APPLIED showing on debuff refreshes :( |
| 07:51.09 | Elkano | well, same for buffs... it's a apin when writing buff addons ^^ |
| 07:51.20 | Elkano | apin -> pain |
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| 08:00.12 | ennuilg | Hmm... Embedded icons really is buggy! Not only is there the Persistence issue, but it seems to throw up Phantom icons too - random icons in random screen locations. Weird stuff. |
| 08:02.03 | [Ammo] | ennuilg: you're doing it wrong |
| 08:03.20 | ennuilg | I've heard that before... :-) |
| 08:06.08 | ennuilg | [Ammo], any clues as to what I'm doing wrong? |
| 08:06.21 | [Ammo] | not really |
| 08:06.33 | [Ammo] | but I haven't noticed any glaring bugs with embedded icons |
| 08:07.01 | Xinhuan | i noticed quite a number of word wrapping issues with embedded icons |
| 08:07.25 | Xinhuan | especially when used in tooltips |
| 08:08.32 | ennuilg | OK. So, you /assume/ I'm doing it wrong, because you've not seen similar issues. A fair assumption, I guess, but not helpful. |
| 08:08.38 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 08:08.53 | [Ammo] | show code that goes wrong |
| 08:08.58 | Xinhuan | i haven't heard/seen any phantom icons issue though |
| 08:09.01 | [Ammo] | preferably a simple example |
| 08:09.03 | [Ammo] | me neither |
| 08:09.07 | [Ammo] | hence I'm saying you're doing it wrong:) |
| 08:09.15 | Xinhuan | so its more likely you are concantenating it unwittingly ;p |
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| 08:11.09 | Xinhuan | feel free to show code hehe |
| 08:11.33 | Cheads | why would you want TopscoreFu to be LoadOnDemand ? |
| 08:12.53 | Arrowmaster | thanks for reminding me |
| 08:12.58 | CIA-40 | 03arrowmaster * r72055 10FuBar_TopScoreFu/FuBar_TopScoreFu.toc: FuBar_TopScoreFu: remove LoD since FuBar is now OptDep |
| 08:13.41 | ennuilg | [Ammo], http://pastey,net/86862 |
| 08:13.54 | Xinhuan | that url looks... wrong ;p |
| 08:14.06 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 08:14.27 | Cheads | cheers Arrowmaster =) |
| 08:14.47 | Xinhuan | http://pastey.net/86862 fix link so i can dbl click onit ;p |
| 08:14.50 | ennuilg | Sorry - can't cut n paste between my two machines - chance the comma for a dot. |
| 08:17.08 | Xinhuan | what's "barName" |
| 08:17.14 | Tem | Dear Eurofags, the DOT is for seperating the integer part of a number from the fractional part. The COMMA is for seperating sets of 3 digits within the integer part. |
| 08:17.17 | Tem | Love, |
| 08:17.18 | Tem | Tem |
| 08:17.41 | Xinhuan | Dear Tem, |
| 08:17.43 | Tem | Also XX.YY is WRONG. That is not a coordinate pair. |
| 08:17.44 | Xinhuan | I <3 you. |
| 08:17.47 | Xinhuan | Xinhuan :) |
| 08:17.48 | ennuilg | And the typo is for saying Fcuk Yuo Tem... |
| 08:17.56 | Tem | ennuilg, =P |
| 08:18.06 | Tem | XX.YY is a single number |
| 08:18.17 | Xinhuan | so what's "barName" |
| 08:18.20 | Tem | XX,YY is better, but a space would be preferred. |
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| 08:18.24 | Xinhuan | is that some upvalue variable? |
| 08:18.25 | ennuilg | barName = mobname_mobguid |
| 08:18.47 | ennuilg | It's defined earlier in the function - just didn't bother to paste it. |
| 08:20.24 | Xinhuan | don't really see any issue with that code |
| 08:20.30 | Xinhuan | got a screenshot? |
| 08:21.03 | Xinhuan | by the way, you don't need all those tostring() calls |
| 08:21.32 | Xinhuan | the .. operator already assumes both operands are strings, so if one operand isn't a string, it implicitly tostring()s it |
| 08:22.12 | Paene | Xinhuan: You seem knowledgable...Vulcanus and I are debating over how to implement our modules. Would you know offhand how significant the memory difference would be between external module folders (using LoadAddon() and NewModule() to load them) vs internal module folders (just using NewModule() and the main addon's toc) |
| 08:22.36 | Xinhuan | there is no difference in memory usage |
| 08:22.55 | CIA-40 | 03ammo * r72056 10oUF_DebuffHighlight/readme.txt: oUF_DebuffHighlight: update readme for clarity |
| 08:23.03 | Paene | I didn't think so |
| 08:23.03 | Vulcanus | So disabled addons are still loaded into memory? |
| 08:23.15 | Xinhuan | they are not |
| 08:23.22 | ennuilg | Xinhuan, http://www.benzo8.org/downloads/scorchio-0.70NOS.rar - posted by a user of the AddOn. He's highlighted to Phantom icon, which isn't even a raid icon, or used in Scorchio! |
| 08:23.29 | ennuilg | Gah - sorry. |
| 08:23.31 | Xinhuan | by "no difference" i mean that if everything is loaded, there is no difference |
| 08:23.37 | ennuilg | One moment. Damn cut n' paste. |
| 08:23.58 | Xinhuan | the only difference would be /when/ they are loaded |
| 08:23.58 | Paene | blah, managing 9 folders is gonna suck |
| 08:24.56 | ennuilg | Xinhuan, http://nebster.bulldoghome.com/photos/BDRES/nebster_bulldoghome_com/scorchio.jpg |
| 08:25.30 | Xinhuan | for the most part, modularisation helps to separate code into clean components |
| 08:26.16 | [Ammo] | I like the fact that my bigwigs modules for a zone are only loaded when I enter that zone |
| 08:26.42 | Paene | Yeah...you use metadata for that right? |
| 08:27.09 | Xinhuan | are you sure that phantom icon is part of scorchio? |
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| 08:27.20 | [Ammo] | Paene: indeed |
| 08:28.11 | ennuilg | Acutally, not 100%, no. But circumstantial evidence is kinda strong, and given that there's already the Persistence bug, I said I'd look into it. |
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| 08:29.32 | ennuilg | I made a build yesterday without the raidicon code and he said they stopped appearing (he = he and his other guildmate mages)... |
| 08:29.42 | Paene | I just wish Blizz would provide a way to have LOD modules inside a main addon folder, so you don't have to manage a ton of folders if you have a ton of modules that you don't want residing in memory when they're not in use |
| 08:30.29 | Paene | like a way to specify addons within another addon folder |
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| 08:31.42 | Xinhuan | can you get rid of the last few ":" portions |
| 08:31.51 | Xinhuan | only need the height, omit the rest |
| 08:32.14 | Xinhuan | i.e text = text .. ":" .. tostring(Scorchio.db.profile.baroptions.height-2) .. "|t" |
| 08:32.18 | Xinhuan | should be sufficient |
| 08:32.24 | [Ammo] | you don't even need to add that |
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| 08:32.31 | [Ammo] | the icons scale with the fontstring |
| 08:32.34 | Xinhuan | that's what i figured |
| 08:32.35 | Xinhuan | even |
| 08:32.46 | ennuilg | I have done before, while trying to pin this down, and it didn't seem to help. Will try again though, just to be sure. |
| 08:32.46 | [Ammo] | |Ttexture::|t |
| 08:33.33 | Xinhuan | are the colons even necessary |
| 08:33.48 | Xinhuan | i didn't think they were, if the arguments are empty |
| 08:35.13 | [Ammo] | not sure |
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| 08:35.18 | [Ammo] | I use them and it scales with the text |
| 08:35.20 | [Ammo] | could try without |
| 08:35.27 | CIA-40 | 03javek * r72057 10LocaleGenerator/LocaleGenerator.lua: |
| 08:35.27 | CIA-40 | LocaleGenerator: |
| 08:35.27 | CIA-40 | * Don't add duplicate L strings |
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| 08:42.53 | Kurax | What's this? |
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| 08:52.14 | ennuilg | OK - looks like I've got somewhere, and, annoyingly... [Ammo] might have been right. My blank icon wasn't being addressed properly (slashes before the path), so it wasn't being displayed. It doesn't explain why the default blizzard behaviour, when given a nil icon, is to replace it with the last icon drawn, but it's solved the persistence issue. |
| 08:52.33 | ennuilg | Hopefully that too will solve the Phantom Icon issue. We'll see. |
| 08:52.49 | evl | 007 - Phantom Icon |
| 08:52.52 | ennuilg | smiles at [Ammo] |
| 08:52.52 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 08:52.56 | [Ammo] | you were doing it wrong! :) |
| 08:53.02 | ennuilg | Grumble... |
| 08:53.10 | [Ammo] | *evil dexter laugh* |
| 08:53.34 | CIA-40 | 03belazor 07data * r72058 10Cryolysis3/spellcache.lua: |
| 08:53.34 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 08:53.34 | CIA-40 | - Attempt at fixing spell cache |
| 08:56.56 | CIA-40 | 03ennuilg * r72059 10scorchio/ (core.lua icons/blank.tga scorchio.toc): |
| 08:56.56 | CIA-40 | scorchio: |
| 08:56.56 | CIA-40 | - Corrected blank icon path. Should solve raidIcon Persistence bug. |
| 08:57.20 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 08:57.57 | Xinhuan | funny how i didn't see the extra \\ in front of that path |
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| 09:01.16 | ennuilg | Yeah - silly things like that are so often overlooked. It's why you can never find your keys when they're right there on your desk! |
| 09:01.42 | Ellipsis | or your glasses while you're wearing them |
| 09:01.47 | Ellipsis | has done that way too many times |
| 09:02.18 | starlon | lol |
| 09:02.47 | ennuilg | Thanks any guys, for looking - it made me look harder and we got it sorted. |
| 09:02.53 | ennuilg | anyway* |
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| 09:06.23 | syeren | Ellipsis, how could you not know your glasses are on :p |
| 09:06.36 | syeren | Either your eye sight is dire or you're wearing your glasses in my case :p |
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| 09:07.20 | ennuilg | Heh - I've spent hours looking for a hair clip or a ribbon or something, only to be told that it's already in my hair... |
| 09:10.08 | durcyn | you're lying. there are no girls on the internet. fbi.gov! attica! |
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| 09:11.22 | durcyn | oh, hi Ellipsis. |
| 09:12.03 | ennuilg | WoW seems to have a reasonable balance of guys and girls, tbh... Better than a lot of other games I've seen. |
| 09:12.28 | [Ammo] | and still my wife won't play the game.... |
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| 09:14.44 | CIA-40 | 03belazor 07data * r72060 10Cryolysis3/spellcache.lua: |
| 09:14.44 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 09:14.44 | CIA-40 | - Revert half of spell cache tweak |
| 09:15.25 | Ellipsis | syeren: my eyesight is bad, but I'm used to wearing contacts most of the time |
| 09:15.38 | Ellipsis | so I forget that my glasses are on because normally my eyesight is fine without wearing them :P |
| 09:15.50 | Cheads | [Ammo] I know the feeling :/ |
| 09:15.59 | Cheads | sucks at times =) |
| 09:16.27 | Ellipsis | PS@ennuilg: l2 scrunchie on the wrist :P |
| 09:16.48 | Shot | My other half plays, she just lacks initiative |
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| 09:17.18 | Shot | The only way I can get her to play independently is by handing her a guide, or downloading TourGuide for her |
| 09:17.38 | durcyn | well, tell her to roll better if she wants to win initiative. |
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| 09:17.49 | Shot | She quite likes TourGuide in fact - combined with CarboniteQuest, she can do things by herself |
| 09:18.12 | Shot | Fitting the trend, she plays a hunter, with a "pretty cat" |
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| 09:18.43 | Ellipsis | let me guess, a nelf huntard? |
| 09:19.17 | Shot | no, draenei :) |
| 09:19.40 | Ellipsis | even worse :P |
| 09:19.52 | Shot | She loves her professions, has alchemy & herbalism at ~320 at level 50 |
| 09:20.01 | Shot | And she has a knack for making money, which is nice |
| 09:20.08 | Shot | I didn't have to buy her a mount at 40 even |
| 09:20.11 | Ellipsis | my ex rolled a draenei hunter...that's about when I left him |
| 09:20.36 | Vulcanus | you're such a bitch XD |
| 09:20.49 | Ellipsis | it wasn't because of the hunter, I swear! |
| 09:20.53 | Ellipsis | ...well, maybe a little bit |
| 09:20.56 | durcyn | ck plays a hunter? |
| 09:20.57 | Shot | She got an elekk, decided it looked stupid, went off and got exalted with SW, got a horse, decided it looked stupid, got exalted with IF, got a ram - was finally happy, all at level 40 :/ |
| 09:20.59 | Vulcanus | was it a female draenei? |
| 09:21.00 | durcyn | wait, i'm confused |
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| 09:21.05 | syeren | I was just about ask if ck is your ex or your current :p |
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| 09:21.07 | Ellipsis | no durcyn, wrong guy :P |
| 09:21.20 | Ellipsis | ck plays a pally, I'm fine with that |
| 09:21.23 | ennuilg | Ellipsis, I still wouldn't find it! |
| 09:21.27 | Ellipsis | I've dated pallies before |
| 09:21.30 | durcyn | i can't keep up with your love life, sorry. |
| 09:21.41 | Ellipsis | the nice thing is they've always got blessing of protection handy |
| 09:21.50 | durcyn | ... |
| 09:21.50 | syeren | Old ;p |
| 09:22.28 | syeren | Shot, considering female Draenei look stupid on Rams, strange :p |
| 09:22.33 | Ellipsis | maybe to you, but it's something us women have to always pay attention to |
| 09:22.58 | krka | no women on the internet |
| 09:23.01 | krka | true story |
| 09:23.08 | Vulcanus | no girls either |
| 09:23.19 | Jaxon | Just camwhores |
| 09:23.23 | Vulcanus | men are men, women are men, and little girls are fbi agents |
| 09:23.30 | syeren | Ellipsis never showed us a pic of herself :p |
| 09:23.46 | ennuilg | That belief is only so guys don't have to admit to have been beaten by a girl in a duel. |
| 09:24.01 | Vulcanus | surely such an atrocity has never occurred |
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| 09:24.23 | CIA-40 | 03anea * r72061 10Whisp/ (6 files): |
| 09:24.23 | CIA-40 | Whisp 20080429: |
| 09:24.23 | CIA-40 | - Added a few options, fixed positioning issue |
| 09:24.28 | syeren | My arena team's warrior is a girl :p |
| 09:24.32 | syeren | And we're high rated :> |
| 09:24.41 | Shot | syeren: I agree - they look only marginally less like a frog than when on a horse |
| 09:24.47 | Shot | but she's happy, so I guess it's ok |
| 09:24.49 | syeren | Yup Shot. |
| 09:25.07 | syeren | Night Sabre / Elekk / Bear is all they look good on :p |
| 09:25.11 | Shot | I think she likes the pvp elekk |
| 09:25.19 | Ellipsis | syeren: I've shown several pics o.O; |
| 09:25.34 | Vulcanus | repost or gtfo! |
| 09:25.35 | syeren | Oh, I still remember the days when you was trying to get people to write addons for them :p |
| 09:25.45 | syeren | Link please, i'm curious :p |
| 09:25.51 | Ellipsis | hahaha |
| 09:25.55 | Ellipsis | those are the "special" pictures ;) |
| 09:26.00 | Vulcanus | :O |
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| 09:26.01 | ReAn | in ace config blocks for AceConfig, say i have an execute option, can i get arguments after it somehow? |
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| 09:26.07 | Vulcanus | Ill write addons ;D |
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| 09:26.49 | durcyn | wait, what? |
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| 09:26.52 | durcyn | porn for code? |
| 09:27.00 | Ellipsis | you know you'd do it |
| 09:27.00 | Vulcanus | a nerd's dream |
| 09:27.07 | durcyn | you bet your sweet ass i would |
| 09:27.09 | Vulcanus | depends on how you look |
| 09:27.09 | Vulcanus | XD |
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| 09:27.24 | Ellipsis | decide for yourself then :P |
| 09:27.29 | durcyn | functional specs, go |
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| 09:33.22 | Jaxon | So my guildmate says "Try out RBM, you migh tlike it." Can't track item cooldowns with it though, can you. |
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| 09:44.59 | durcyn | Jaxon: rbm is set up to track very specific raid cooldowns. if you're looking for cooldown displays for your character, Hourglass, CoolDownButtons, or oCD might be more appropriate |
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| 09:48.17 | CIA-40 | 03jerry 07Ace3 * r72062 10Grid/Grid2/modules/ (StatusAuras.lua StatusHealth.lua StatusMana.lua): |
| 09:48.17 | CIA-40 | Grid2: |
| 09:48.18 | CIA-40 | _ Use a specific frame to handle HEALTH and MANA events, like AURA. |
| 09:49.07 | Jaxon | durcyn: then I'm surprised there is nothing in there to track Misdirect. |
| 09:49.57 | durcyn | eh, can't say i'm a fan of RBM anyway, tried it once and hated it when it was still called BA3 |
| 09:50.04 | Arrowmaster | playing GH3 at 6am is probably not the best idea |
| 09:50.18 | durcyn | BigWigs_CommonAuras will show you Misdirection use and cooldown though, if that's all you need. |
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| 09:50.42 | Arrowmaster | now my arm hurts and i didnt really acomplish anything since im too tired to do well |
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| 09:50.49 | Jaxon | durcyn: the one thing I'm interested in is hidden cooldowns tracking it claims to do |
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| 10:00.38 | durcyn | hm, that gives me an idea |
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| 10:21.01 | CIA-40 | 03durcyn 07Ace3 * r72063 10Hourglass/core.lua: drycoded item item proc internal cooldown tracking, only included hyjal rings for testing. |
| 10:21.33 | durcyn | "item item", apparently means i need sleep. |
| 10:24.10 | JY` | winkiller: 27 |
| 10:24.13 | JY` | oups |
| 10:24.24 | JY` | instead of /window 27 |
| 10:24.39 | exor|zzz | ahaha |
| 10:24.56 | FtH|Daemona | durcyn interesting, can i hack it to track other stuff ? |
| 10:25.07 | ReAn | GDI, i wish i could develop my mod during shutdown :( |
| 10:25.25 | FtH|Daemona | get a second account, a european one ;) |
| 10:25.34 | durcyn | FtH|Daemona: wait for the next commit to hit, i just realized i screwe up something |
| 10:25.45 | FtH|Daemona | kk |
| 10:26.01 | durcyn | right now it's only set up to track buff gains, so ymmv |
| 10:26.26 | ReAn | eu servers dont go down tuesdays? |
| 10:26.49 | CIA-40 | 03durcyn 07Ace3 * r72064 10Hourglass/core.lua: fix CLEU event subtype filtering |
| 10:27.04 | FtH|Daemona | uuh no, they go down on wednesdays |
| 10:27.13 | ReAn | neat |
| 10:27.19 | FtH|Daemona | why do you think europeans make fun of US when we get first kills on raid content |
| 10:27.22 | Delorala | night tuesday-wendnesday at 3 oclock^^ |
| 10:27.27 | FtH|Daemona | we basically needed a day less ;) |
| 10:27.36 | Delorala | and come back wednesday 11oclock normaly |
| 10:27.58 | Delorala | so US always has a time-lead ^^1 |
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| 10:29.24 | Silviu- | Anyone know what colour code to put in rock config for a bar to be transparent ? ;-) |
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| 10:33.01 | FtH|Daemona | Silviu- did you try setting the value for the ... damn lacking the english word... opacity? the look through value.. whatever from 100% to 0 ? |
| 10:33.14 | ReAn | Silviu-: Search RockConfig-1.0 's lua for "Transparent" and maybe you can find it |
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| 10:34.09 | Silviu- | FtH|Daemona pff thx i was blind and was actually looking in the wrong place ;p |
| 10:36.59 | Arcaia2 | anyone have any idea what level is required to enter BT |
| 10:37.07 | Arcaia2 | as in - can you enter at like 68 |
| 10:37.09 | Elkano | 65 maybe? |
| 10:37.22 | Elkano | I think MH listed 65 |
| 10:37.30 | Arcaia | that would be awesome |
| 10:37.35 | Arcaia | buying zhardoom |
| 10:37.38 | Arcaia | sp? |
| 10:37.40 | Arcaia | for my lock |
| 10:37.51 | Arcaia | 2500g from a guild on our server |
| 10:37.53 | Arcaia | if i can get it |
| 10:37.56 | Arcaia | get in* |
| 10:38.04 | Arcaia | i could have it the day I turn 70 ;P |
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| 10:44.33 | FtH|Daemona | 2500g laughable |
| 10:44.47 | FtH|Daemona | ... selling armani bears for 5k .... |
| 10:44.57 | Arcaia | they sell bears for 2500g too |
| 10:45.08 | Arcaia | I like my warlock mount ;P |
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| 10:46.18 | Arcaia | cursed vision for 2250 |
| 10:49.52 | FtH|Daemona | the problem is the drop chance ^^ |
| 10:51.22 | Arcaia | yea |
| 10:51.24 | Arcaia | but |
| 10:51.26 | Arcaia | if it doesnt drop |
| 10:51.30 | Arcaia | you dont pay |
| 10:51.31 | Arcaia | ;P |
| 10:51.40 | Arcaia | and you dont even have to participate in the fight |
| 10:51.51 | Arcaia | they bring you in you die - in my case, hellfire to death |
| 10:51.55 | Arcaia | they do the fight |
| 10:52.00 | Arcaia | you get loots |
| 10:53.55 | dieck | hm, and what do they do with the money? |
| 10:54.17 | CIA-40 | 03belazor 07core * r72065 10Cryolysis3/module.lua: |
| 10:54.17 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 10:54.17 | CIA-40 | - Added comments to module.lua |
| 10:54.18 | FtH|Daemona | i'd expect that... unless you cant do a fight with 23 or 24ppl its stupid to do such kind of offers |
| 10:54.47 | FtH|Daemona | fill they guild bank, let raiders pay their repair via it, buy those tank pots ..... |
| 10:54.50 | dieck | we have currently 3000g in our (ssc/tk) raid bank, giving out potions and enchant materials, and can't drop :) |
| 10:54.52 | FtH|Daemona | pay for consumables |
| 10:55.05 | FtH|Daemona | dieck we are running steady 100k+ ;) |
| 10:55.12 | dieck | hm, ok, maybe we don't use enough pots :) |
| 10:55.18 | dieck | uh :) |
| 10:55.53 | FtH|Daemona | helps to be a "server first" guild thogh |
| 10:55.53 | dieck | where was the cap, 2.14mio? |
| 10:55.58 | FtH|Daemona | whats unsigned long int? ;) |
| 10:56.07 | FtH|Daemona | convert that from copper to gold and you know |
| 10:56.11 | FtH|Daemona | (i think that was the cap) |
| 10:56.50 | dieck | ok, as a "casual lookalike" guild we're far from "server first" :) |
| 10:57.20 | dieck | most of us raided 4-5 days back in 60s, and we're now tired of it, so raiding only 2 days, but with people we like :) |
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| 10:58.45 | Arcaia | from what i understand -> relentless has like 43k or something atm |
| 10:58.54 | Arcaia | relentless being the t6 guild selling stuff |
| 10:59.07 | Arcaia | its funny id drop 2500g on my lock |
| 10:59.17 | Arcaia | my rogue [who is alliance on the same server] is my main |
| 10:59.21 | Arcaia | and he's in BT/MH ;P |
| 10:59.43 | Arcaia | the glory of dual accounts |
| 11:00.11 | dieck | go pve and you can do with one account :) |
| 11:00.31 | FtH|Daemona | i guess myself limiting me to 1 account is the only thing to keep me studying ;) |
| 11:00.47 | Arcaia | haha |
| 11:00.56 | Arcaia | im not about to relevel the 4 characters i play |
| 11:01.00 | FtH|Daemona | being server first doesnt mean you play 10hours 7days a week |
| 11:01.03 | Arcaia | ally - rogue, war, shaman |
| 11:01.09 | FtH|Daemona | its just being organized and having skilled players |
| 11:01.15 | dieck | I have put in the parental control for myself, as I'm starting my diploma thesis. so I have to waste my time in boards and chats :) |
| 11:01.15 | Arcaia | horde - lock, mage [lowbs] |
| 11:01.54 | Arcaia | and as for time wasted - i waste more time via IRC than by wow |
| 11:02.04 | Arcaia | I only WOW after late ;P |
| 11:02.23 | syeren | Replace skilled players with "players who can read raid warnings" and you're probably right FTH ;p |
| 11:02.31 | dieck | as I can irc at work, but can wow, I'd say "me too" :) |
| 11:02.34 | syeren | *Daemona |
| 11:03.20 | FtH|Daemona | naaha |
| 11:03.37 | FtH|Daemona | most times we beat encounters before there is a bossmod ;) |
| 11:03.44 | dieck | hm, as of my opinion, "players who can read raid warnings" isn't sufficient, as the latency may cause wipes. people have to act through the scenario, not only react |
| 11:04.12 | syeren | FtH, so do we :p |
| 11:04.31 | syeren | But I still won't regard our players to be 'skilled' :p |
| 11:04.43 | dieck | you may drag some players only reacting, but if none is "skilled" you won't get far |
| 11:04.58 | syeren | Well bosskillers said we're 5th in the world at the moment :p |
| 11:05.21 | syeren | And I can drag 95% of our raiders into a PVP situation and they'd fail horribly :p |
| 11:05.45 | FtH|Daemona | bosskillers doesnt even track our kills properly.... |
| 11:05.50 | FtH|Daemona | we are ranked 100+ atm |
| 11:06.00 | FtH|Daemona | dunno how many mails our gm wrote... |
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| 11:07.02 | winkiller | sometimes I wanna switch from DPS |
| 11:07.11 | FtH|Daemona | doing a good job tracking our kalec kill after felmyst and brut ^^ |
| 11:07.12 | winkiller | I don't feel the impact on the raid :/ |
| 11:07.28 | FtH|Daemona | Sunwell is kinda a healer check... |
| 11:07.41 | FtH|Daemona | most wipes are caused by dead tanks |
| 11:07.45 | winkiller | 10% wipe, probably DPS' fault. not getting past phase2 on Vashj - not dps fault |
| 11:07.55 | FtH|Daemona | ... kalecgos... brutallus.. |
| 11:07.59 | FtH|Daemona | twins... |
| 11:08.09 | FtH|Daemona | felmyst - lol mass dispel |
| 11:08.11 | winkiller | /shoo with your new sunwell stuff :P |
| 11:08.23 | FtH|Daemona | shuts up |
| 11:09.38 | Cheads | =) |
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| 11:09.51 | Cheads | <-- still struggeling with Leo =) |
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| 11:10.57 | luxus | illidan down.. but the second kill is the hardest :D |
| 11:12.43 | FtH|Daemona | guess guild like Nihilum, Sk, FtH, BadOmen etc have probably taken raiding to a too high level to make encounters last longer than a week and beatable by the rest of the 9.999.000 subscribers :X |
| 11:13.12 | AvitusLC | ~seen Grayhoof |
| 11:13.13 | purl | i haven't seen 'grayhoof', AvitusLC |
| 11:14.02 | dieck | FtH|Daemona: I'd say "ack", as I know I will never see Sunwell, if i'm lucky we're doing BT before LK, but most likely we'll end up Hjyal before the race to 80 starts |
| 11:15.01 | FtH|Daemona | you gonna laugh, but.. FtH never beat 4HM and KelThuzad Pre-BC |
| 11:15.20 | dieck | I think Blizzard has to think about adapting instances, that'll get harder or have more surprises to entertain Nihilum and let other people see the content, too |
| 11:15.29 | FtH|Daemona | we lost some tanks when we were on 4HM... closed beta hit... we got a guild invite and thought... screw it |
| 11:15.31 | AvitusLC | I'm pretty sure you'll do at least Kalec at some point. Everyone is. |
| 11:16.07 | syeren | The thing is FtH|Daemona, we (Bad Omen) aren't even hardcore in regards to the time we spend raiding. |
| 11:16.15 | syeren | Just the content is easier now :p |
| 11:16.22 | FtH|Daemona | aha |
| 11:16.30 | syeren | Kaib is speaking about you ;p |
| 11:16.34 | syeren | You're the female troll rogue! |
| 11:16.38 | syeren | Who posts on EJ right? |
| 11:16.59 | FtH|Daemona | http://armorylite.com/eu/destromath/daemona |
| 11:17.00 | FtH|Daemona | yup |
| 11:17.18 | syeren | Give me a screenshot of your character :p |
| 11:17.25 | syeren | Seeing a well equipped troll would be funny :p |
| 11:17.30 | dieck | hm, not if our drop luck doesn't increase :) we dis most items, as always the same crap drops, lacking most tank and healer items of the loot tables. I think a druid tank as his t5 hands, and i have my t5 priest trousers. all other classes are getting offspec t5 by now :) |
| 11:17.33 | luxus | daemona kick some pala's of your guild please.. we need 2 :D |
| 11:17.35 | FtH|Daemona | never, i failed at creating the facials of Daemona... |
| 11:17.40 | syeren | I imagine watching your character run would be even funnier though FtH|Daemona :p |
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| 11:18.01 | syeren | In other words, you didn't pick the one good face for female troll :p |
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| 11:18.13 | FtH|Daemona | i fixed that issue on my shadowpriest alt ;) |
| 11:18.25 | syeren | You can get a small model edit which changes all of the ugly female troll faces to the nice one though FtH :p |
| 11:18.29 | syeren | *Daemona :p |
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| 11:20.31 | FtH|Daemona | syeren... a tad older... http://www.koaschten.de/wow/6_glaives_for_a_halleluja.jpg |
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| 11:20.54 | syeren | Haha ;p |
| 11:21.01 | syeren | Get yourself a Gladiator Drake ;p |
| 11:21.07 | FtH|Daemona | i fail at pvp ;) |
| 11:21.07 | AvitusLC | anyone know how to format links when posting on wow.curse? it's not accepting html |
| 11:22.11 | syeren | Daemona, find yourself a semi-competent Resto Druid and you have yourself Gladiator with your gear :p |
| 11:22.12 | Elkano | Daemona, FtH server is Destromath, isn't it? |
| 11:22.14 | syeren | Honestly ;p |
| 11:22.41 | FtH|Daemona | yup Elkano |
| 11:22.52 | FtH|Daemona | just scroll up and find the armorlite link |
| 11:22.53 | FtH|Daemona | ;) |
| 11:22.58 | FtH|Daemona | syeren http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4706/spikeydogdn2.jpg |
| 11:23.06 | FtH|Daemona | that one beats all IMHO |
| 11:23.21 | syeren | ;D |
| 11:23.21 | Elkano | is the alliance guild Sochin still around? played beta with them |
| 11:23.55 | FtH|Daemona | Elkano uhm sochin? we are a euro guild, dont think there ever was a guild named sochin on eu-destromath...lemme check |
| 11:24.31 | Elkano | there was, at least after launch ^^ even had a char in that guild |
| 11:24.41 | Elkano | but used to play on another server |
| 11:25.30 | FtH|Daemona | doubt they are still around, no sign of raiding even in kara on wowjutsu |
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| 11:26.16 | Elkano | hmm http://wow.buffed.de/?g=178519 |
| 11:26.36 | Elkano | don't know whan that data is from ^^ |
| 11:27.25 | Orionshock | servers gone down yet? |
| 11:27.57 | Orionshock | guess they have |
| 11:28.24 | FtH|Daemona | Orionshock us? yes, some were complaining about not being able to test addons ;) |
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| 11:32.04 | CIA-40 | oUF_DebuffHighlight: don't highlight frames if UnitCanAssist("player", unit) is false |
| 11:32.04 | CIA-40 | This prevents highlighting on units you can't cure anyway. |
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| 11:40.12 | [Liq] | Hi everyone :-) |
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| 12:08.28 | Orionshock | anyone have a clear idea of what RPHelper does? |
| 12:09.30 | JoshBorke | yes, helps you RP |
| 12:09.52 | Orionshock | ^.^ yeah... that much was obvious... |
| 12:10.05 | JoshBorke | it replaces text |
| 12:10.25 | Orionshock | like does it modify tooltips? give you a rundown on a persons rp history ect?? |
| 12:10.48 | Orionshock | i maybe used it twice and wasn't too impressed, rather glitchie... |
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| 12:48.24 | FtH|Daemona | whats the status of the us realms? |
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| 12:49.28 | Civrock | Offline. |
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| 13:04.14 | FtH|Daemona | Someone highlight me once you figured out if the gate to m'uru is open (shattrath npc) |
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| 13:07.44 | ScoTTie_ | servers are back up in ~5 hours |
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| 13:10.47 | FtH|Daemona | hmpf |
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| 13:22.43 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: are you positive UnitFactionGroup is available during the loading process? |
| 13:23.03 | Chompers | this RBM thing looks pretty interesting |
| 13:23.11 | Chompers | has anyone tried it out in a raid? |
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| 13:25.16 | charon | FtH|Daemona: you're like someone on the bus who constantly looks at his watch to see if he will arrive in time. relax! you can't change it anyway and knowing the answer doesn't help before you can find it out yourself ;p |
| 13:25.43 | FtH|Daemona | charon sure its helps me planning my wednesday and shouting at ppl ;) |
| 13:25.58 | luxus | Chompers: me |
| 13:26.04 | luxus | Chompers: it works great |
| 13:26.21 | Chompers | Sweet, does it work well with bigwigs? |
| 13:26.27 | luxus | but you should use v2 |
| 13:26.28 | Chompers | or is it a kinda information overload |
| 13:26.31 | luxus | from branches |
| 13:26.33 | vhaarr | Chompers: what? |
| 13:26.52 | Ellipsis | charon: lies, if you see that you're going to be late you can at least start making up your excuses! |
| 13:26.58 | luxus | no it is a bigwigs replacement... if you use the boss plugins |
| 13:27.13 | vhaarr | ah, RBM |
| 13:27.21 | Chompers | vhaarr: i like some of the features of rbm, but want to keep bigwigs for the core boss info |
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| 13:29.58 | CIA-40 | 03polleke * r72067 10LibResComm-1.0/LibResComm-1.0.lua: |
| 13:29.58 | CIA-40 | LibResComm-1.0: |
| 13:29.58 | CIA-40 | - Added druid rebirth |
| 13:29.58 | CIA-40 | - Implented CANRES |
| 13:29.58 | CIA-40 | - Added target information to ResStop() |
| 13:29.58 | CIA-40 | - Use UNKNOWN instead of "Unknown" |
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| 13:30.53 | Elsia | heya |
| 13:31.00 | CIA-40 | 03lordrhys * r72068 10FuBar_FactionItemsFu/ (4 files): |
| 13:31.00 | CIA-40 | FuBar_FactionItemsFu: version 2.4.0 |
| 13:31.00 | CIA-40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.00 | CIA-40 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.45 | Elsia | how exactly is an addon to handle libstub and cbh? remove it completely and pray the libs provide it? or leave it in svn-externals just remove from optdeps and x-embeds? |
| 13:31.49 | Hjalte | Elsia: Hi! |
| 13:31.55 | Elsia | heya hjalte |
| 13:32.08 | Ellipsis | copy it in rather than using externals |
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| 13:32.32 | Elsia | erm not talking about making a lib though |
| 13:33.09 | Elsia | so even addons are supposed to hard copy these even though all libs will hardcopy them too? |
| 13:33.18 | Ellipsis | oh |
| 13:33.23 | Ellipsis | no, addons shouldn't |
| 13:33.42 | Ellipsis | probably should external it in though |
| 13:33.51 | CIA-40 | 03ammo * r72069 10oUF_DebuffHighlight/oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua: oUF_DebuffHighlight: make sure aura scanning is active on a unitobject regardless wether or not debuffs or buffs are shown |
| 13:34.06 | Elsia | yeah, i just got one user yelling at me that I do have these externals, so I'm trying to clarify what the official policy is there |
| 13:34.19 | Ellipsis | unless you know for a fact that your first loaded lib that uses them has them copied in its embed dir |
| 13:34.38 | Polleke | Elsia, yeserday I couldnt even find an external link for CBH |
| 13:34.44 | Ellipsis | it's inside ace3 |
| 13:35.11 | Elsia | I think I'll just keep the optdeps and x-embeds for now, they don't do harm being there really |
| 13:35.21 | Ellipsis | the x-embeds shouldn't be there |
| 13:35.33 | Elsia | k |
| 13:35.35 | Ellipsis | optdeps probably shouldn't either, but they can't hurt |
| 13:36.00 | Elsia | what about svn-externals? |
| 13:36.19 | Ellipsis | not sure what the standard is for that |
| 13:36.44 | Elsia | the forum thread that discusses this isn't real clear about that one unfortunately |
| 13:36.55 | Elsia | anyway, thanks for the input :D |
| 13:37.07 | Ellipsis | in my perfect world addons would have to use those externals, but my perfect world is quite different from reality most of the time -.- |
| 13:37.54 | Elsia | well cbh and libstub are hard-to-miss externals so I think the perfect world would be possible :P |
| 13:38.38 | Ellipsis | but it depends entirely on the lib authors doing their stuff right |
| 13:38.40 | Ellipsis | which they never ever do |
| 13:38.44 | Viper_0000 | meh, whats the best wowace fire vulnerability, winterchill + polymorph timer |
| 13:38.48 | Ellipsis | (I made a post about this at one point) |
| 13:38.51 | Viper_0000 | i tried sorrentimer, but it seems buggy |
| 13:39.01 | Viper_0000 | and i dont wunna go back to necb |
| 13:39.21 | Ellipsis | um...you mean a dot timer? |
| 13:39.40 | Silverstorm | looks like dot timer and tracking CC timers |
| 13:39.49 | Hjalte | Viper_0000: If you can live with having to edit some lua, to get in all the spells you want, then DotDotDot is great. |
| 13:40.11 | Ellipsis | well if you're just looking for timers for your own debuffs, ClassTimer seems to be pretty popular |
| 13:40.15 | Ellipsis | I use ElkBuffBars personally |
| 13:40.22 | Chompers | that's rbm v2 installed, i look forward to trying it out tonight |
| 13:40.36 | Polleke | Quartz with some lua editing is also just perfect |
| 13:40.43 | CIA-40 | 03elsia * r72070 10Recount/Recount.toc: |
| 13:40.43 | CIA-40 | Recount: |
| 13:40.43 | CIA-40 | - Removed libstub and cbh from x-embeds. |
| 13:40.51 | Ellipsis | QUARTZ IS NOT A DOT TIMER *stabbity stab* |
| 13:41.11 | Stanzilla | licks Elkano |
| 13:41.14 | Stanzilla | oops |
| 13:41.20 | Elsia | hehe |
| 13:41.25 | Ellipsis | oh hai failzilla! |
| 13:41.40 | Stanzilla | hai :D |
| 13:41.57 | Ellipsis | licks Stanzilla |
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| 13:42.04 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 13:42.09 | Polleke | it sure is :) It can display timers for any debuff you applied to a target. With some custom filtering in lua, I've been using it for almost a year now |
| 13:42.30 | Viper_0000 | hmm |
| 13:42.33 | Ellipsis | I know what it does |
| 13:42.35 | Viper_0000 | lol i just got alot of options |
| 13:42.38 | Ellipsis | but it is NOT A DOT TIMER |
| 13:42.44 | Ellipsis | and anyone using it as such is fail |
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| 13:43.00 | Ellipsis | it lacks so many of the important features needed for proper dot timing |
| 13:43.06 | Polleke | like? |
| 13:43.28 | Ellipsis | like proper timer formats, filtering options, multi-target timers, ... |
| 13:44.21 | Viper_0000 | ya, quartz isnt good at timing stuff |
| 13:44.27 | Polleke | Timer format is fine, two digits. Filtering can be done in lua. Multi target is efficiency loss as spriest anyway |
| 13:44.48 | Ellipsis | fail, fail, and fail. |
| 13:44.55 | Ellipsis | don't get me started |
| 13:45.02 | Polleke | please do |
| 13:45.03 | [Ammo] | no ellipsis you fail |
| 13:45.03 | Ellipsis | I have things I need to be doing right now |
| 13:45.06 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 13:45.11 | Ellipsis | that's not nice [Ammo] |
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| 13:45.39 | [Ammo] | I am not nice |
| 13:45.48 | Ellipsis | meanie :( |
| 13:46.23 | Chompers | quartz works as a timer addon, just not as well as a proper mod designed for it |
| 13:46.25 | Chompers | i guess |
| 13:46.52 | Ellipsis | "works" is relative, I guess :P |
| 13:47.03 | Silverstorm | Ellipsis...given that I am writing a dot timer right now, what would you consider proper timer formats and filtering options? |
| 13:47.13 | Ellipsis | you're doing what now? |
| 13:47.23 | Ellipsis | I need detailz. |
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| 13:47.57 | nocts | What's this bullshit about Quartz being a "timer" addon? |
| 13:48.34 | nocts | It does -nothing- more than repeat information already available in the default UI. |
| 13:48.41 | luxus | Chompers: rbm works really good as a dot timer |
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| 13:48.50 | Polleke | nocts, in a readable format |
| 13:48.58 | nocts | Readable is fine. I agree, somewhat. |
| 13:49.02 | nocts | But it isn't a timer addon. |
| 13:49.04 | luxus | Apoco fix bugs really fast |
| 13:49.05 | Silverstorm | Well, I used DoTimer previously, but I've noticed quite a few problems with it in hectic situations, plus it uses the old style combat log to parse |
| 13:49.08 | nocts | It's an information parser. |
| 13:49.13 | nocts | ^ |
| 13:49.17 | nocts | See that and worship it. |
| 13:49.26 | nocts | It' |
| 13:49.36 | Xinhuan | elsia |
| 13:49.46 | Ellipsis | I need to see (or be able to configure) timers to show tenths of seconds, I need to have multi-target tracking (as of 2.4). I need sorting, coloring, and filtering options by debuff name/type/duration. I need grouping by unitID for target and focus at least. |
| 13:49.46 | Silverstorm | so I'm basically starting from scratch using 2.4 combat log and planning on LibBars for the bar support, I think |
| 13:49.47 | nocts | *It's going to overwhealm the user if you treat it like a DoT timer because of the sheer amount of additional debuffs displayed on the Quartz. |
| 13:50.00 | Elsia | xin? |
| 13:50.02 | Xinhuan | is it possible the spell breakdown of a player in recount doesn't tally up to his "healing" or damage done |
| 13:50.16 | Xinhuan | like 112k healing done, but the breakdown only shows like 40k done |
| 13:50.23 | Elsia | Xinhuan: which one? the top or the bottom? |
| 13:50.25 | Xinhuan | top |
| 13:50.31 | Elsia | hmm shouldn't be really |
| 13:50.34 | nocts | And "we" need it in a way that isn't blurred alongside additional debuffs that we may or may not have put on the target in the first place. |
| 13:50.47 | Xinhuan | what about damage taken |
| 13:50.48 | Elsia | ah i see |
| 13:51.09 | Silverstorm | OK, multi-target is a given, grouping by unitGUID is a given (for all targets). When you say tenths of a second...is that important all the time, or only toward the end of a duration? |
| 13:51.25 | Elsia | well it's complicated, I'll have to stare at the code to give you a precise answer |
| 13:51.39 | Elsia | basically damage done and taken gets compartmentalized by different categories |
| 13:51.49 | Elsia | like partial blocks, partial resists, dots etc |
| 13:52.06 | Elsia | I'll have to check if detail view does contain these partials, though I suspect not |
| 13:52.07 | Silverstorm | Sorting, coloring, and filtering options will eventually be in there, once I get things working on a basic level |
| 13:52.20 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/recount.jpg |
| 13:52.22 | Xinhuan | try that SS |
| 13:52.28 | Ellipsis | Silverstorm: that, I'd say, could be configurable. I prefer to see it all the time, but I can imagine some people might want formats like 20m, 20:36, 20:36.3 |
| 13:52.33 | Polleke | nocts, filtering debuffs for quartz is a one line edit. This is how it looks for me: http://xrl.us/bjxqd |
| 13:52.41 | Xinhuan | the recount window says taken 152k damage |
| 13:52.49 | Xinhuan | but the actual recorded is like... 46k? |
| 13:53.05 | Xinhuan | also what exactly is attributed to "20k no one" |
| 13:53.13 | Elsia | used water elemental? |
| 13:53.19 | Xinhuan | he's a shadow priest |
| 13:53.32 | Ellipsis | Polleke: if you have to hack the lua for it, it's not a feature of the addon |
| 13:53.48 | Xinhuan | i think he's the only person that didn't tally |
| 13:53.54 | Xinhuan | the rest tallied for damage taken |
| 13:54.03 | Elsia | he should have selected no one so I can see the bottom details |
| 13:54.06 | Silverstorm | default in LibBars is to show tenths when it gets under 11 seconds (I think Antiarc meant 10...but the condition is not quite right), but it's also not done yet. |
| 13:54.15 | Xinhuan | that's actually my screenshot ~_~ |
| 13:54.17 | Xinhuan | not his |
| 13:54.31 | Elsia | well can you take a screen of it selecting no one? |
| 13:54.42 | Xinhuan | don't think i have that raid anymore, its like last sunday |
| 13:55.10 | Xinhuan | the graphs are giving me errors btw |
| 13:55.28 | Elsia | k, post errors on forum if they do |
| 13:55.32 | Xinhuan | when you right click on the players, a menu popups, those graphs gives errors |
| 13:55.47 | Xinhuan | it'll be a while before server goes up :( |
| 13:57.12 | Elsia | hmm actually I suspect this is a sync bug, sync damage shows as coming from no one as I don't sync details |
| 13:57.33 | Elsia | did the spriest use recount and yes which version? |
| 13:57.56 | Xinhuan | i actually don't know, but syncing could be a cause of descrepencies? |
| 13:58.07 | Xinhuan | like it'll make damage taken be whatever he sent |
| 13:58.11 | Xinhuan | but the details isn't sent |
| 13:58.38 | Viper_0000 | gunna try out classtimers now >.< |
| 14:00.04 | Viper_0000 | sweet, maintence |
| 14:00.09 | Elsia | certainly, I don't add sync misses to details |
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| 14:00.47 | Xinhuan | is there a way to count how many debuffs someone took? |
| 14:01.07 | Xinhuan | like umm, "player X caught Y doomfires" (i.e he's fucking bad) |
| 14:02.06 | Elsia | not sure what category doomfire is under, if it's environmental, archimonde or no one, but yeah you do get tick counts in the lower view I think, have to check next time we are at archimonde |
| 14:02.40 | Xinhuan | not interested in the tick counts though, just the number of times the debuff hit |
| 14:02.46 | Hjalte | Haha. I couldn't open a 300 mb log file and have wow open at the same time. I'm having 2 gb of ram though :\ |
| 14:02.54 | Elsia | hmm actually counts are missing, I'll look to add that |
| 14:03.17 | Polleke | Hjalte, let me guess... notepad.exe? |
| 14:03.28 | Hjalte | Polleke: Actually Notepad++ |
| 14:03.33 | Xinhuan | protip: open huge files in MS Word |
| 14:03.53 | Ellipsis | who uses ms word? |
| 14:04.04 | Xinhuan | then change the font to a fixed size font, small size |
| 14:04.11 | Xinhuan | msword can load 300 mb files in 2 seconds |
| 14:04.16 | Xinhuan | because it only loads the parts you can see |
| 14:04.27 | Xinhuan | and it's search function is way better/faster too |
| 14:04.43 | Elsia | never thought i'd hear msword is good ;) |
| 14:04.54 | Ellipsis | other editors can do that too |
| 14:04.57 | Ellipsis | if they're smart |
| 14:04.59 | Xinhuan | its one of the few rare situations you would actually want to use msword basically |
| 14:05.09 | Xinhuan | very few editors wont' choke on 300 mb files |
| 14:05.29 | Silverstorm | he's praising a *very small* subset of its bloated obesity |
| 14:05.32 | Ellipsis | then they suck :D |
| 14:07.34 | Xinhuan | surprisingly notepad++ opened my 90 mb log in about 20 secs hm |
| 14:07.43 | nocts | vim > your pansy editors |
| 14:07.45 | CIA-40 | 03ammo * r72071 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: oUF_Ammo: disable unit tooltips in combat |
| 14:08.02 | Silverstorm | nocts: as long as there's no syntax highlighting on 300mb files, yes :-p |
| 14:08.12 | Viper_0000 | notepad2.exe goggoo |
| 14:08.12 | Hjalte | Elsia: About the missing players, one of them being me, I have one of my friends who lost me at some point logging on now to tell me his filters. Is there anything else you'd like of information from him? |
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| 14:08.20 | nocts | Even syntax highlighting, vim > |
| 14:08.40 | Silverstorm | not for opening 300mb files, unless you specifically disable highlighting for the file |
| 14:09.08 | charon | even emacs has lazy highlighting and it decidedly does _not_ have large file support |
| 14:09.19 | Elsia | well basically I have a good hunch waht the problem is. i.e. it currently deletes combatant that have their collect flag off that are seen in the combat log, so if he saw you do any combat log relevant actions after he or you left the raid that'd explain it, likely you left raid first |
| 14:09.24 | nocts | I've never had problems with large files and vim. |
| 14:09.27 | charon | (but it can load a bz2 of about 60MB worth of logs in <5sec on my computer) |
| 14:09.32 | nocts | Unless you're using gvim, then you need to just die. |
| 14:10.10 | Hjalte | Maybe I'm just not very good at computers, but when I open the Windows Task Manager, I see wow at around 230 MB, Firefox at 100 MB and 5-6 programs at 20-30 MB. Then there's a lot below 5 MB each, but how can my computer not open a 300 MB file without running out of memory? It has 2 GB of memory. |
| 14:10.12 | ckknight | what's a good image hosting site? |
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| 14:10.22 | Silverstorm | Well, maybe it's the syntax highlight definition I have...but I regularly see log files that can take it a long time to open |
| 14:10.40 | Ellipsis | ckknight: tinypic.com |
| 14:10.47 | Elsia | ckknight: i use photobucket |
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| 14:11.16 | [Ammo] | ckknight: images.gammatester.com ? or whatever taht site is clad always uses |
| 14:11.35 | Paene | I LOVE ALL OF YOU! |
| 14:11.40 | charon | Hjalte: if your editor tries to load it all, and uses UCS-4 internally, those 300MB will explode to around 1200MB |
| 14:11.57 | charon | granted, it shouldn't go down in flames but the kernel will probably still try to swap out some of that to give other processes a fair chance |
| 14:12.03 | Paene | Cryo2 got me an internship :) |
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| 14:12.23 | Elsia | grats |
| 14:12.36 | Paene | ty :) |
| 14:12.41 | Silverstorm | nice, grats :) |
| 14:13.03 | CIA-40 | 03kagaro * r72072 10/branches/BigWigs_Cinematographer/: BigWigs_Cinematographer: making branches |
| 14:13.31 | CIA-40 | 03kagaro 07kagaro * r72073 10BigWigs_Cinematographer/: BigWigs_Cinematographer: making branches |
| 14:14.00 | CIA-40 | 03ammo * r72074 10oUF_DebuffHighlight/oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua: oUF_DebuffHighlight: register the UNIT_AURA event instead of the RegisterObject hack. |
| 14:14.32 | ckknight | thanks, Ellipsis, Elsia, [Ammo] |
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| 14:16.05 | Xinhuan | what's a cinematographer |
| 14:16.26 | Paene | good question |
| 14:16.26 | Paene | lol |
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| 14:17.07 | Silverstorm | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cinematographer |
| 14:17.17 | Silverstorm | basically a movie-maker |
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| 14:17.45 | kagaro | Xinhuan: plugin for bigwigs to auto start movie recording during boss fights |
| 14:17.55 | Hjalte | Elsia: The friend who lost me on his Recount yesterday seems to have the exact same filters as me, his only change is showing (but, like me, not recording) ungrouped and having the boss toggle off. Is there anything else I can tell you to assist with findign the bug? |
| 14:17.56 | kagaro | I keep forgetting to hit my keybind |
| 14:17.58 | Xinhuan | so it'll only work on macs? |
| 14:18.11 | kagaro | yeah for now, till blizz adds movie recording to windows client |
| 14:18.27 | Elsia | Hjalte: did he leave the raid group first but stay close to you after? |
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| 14:18.47 | AckisWork | morning |
| 14:18.53 | Elsia | heya ackis |
| 14:18.59 | kagaro | I wonder if they will ever add movie recording option to windows client |
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| 14:19.49 | Elsia | Hjalte: or rather when exactly did you disappear from the combat log? |
| 14:20.50 | luxus | kagaro: the movie record options is not really great |
| 14:20.52 | Funkeh` | vhaarr, ywa faction is available |
| 14:21.05 | kagaro | luxus: they work for me |
| 14:21.12 | kagaro | depends on option setup |
| 14:21.26 | Hjalte | Elsia: We both joined the raid at the same time, and I'm asking him now if he was me on any other try than the last. Yesterday, I might have reset my Recount when running in to BT after a wipe. Maybe that's what triggered it, at least it fits with the time. |
| 14:21.35 | Hjalte | if he has me* |
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| 14:21.37 | kagaro | we have been using them to get a replay of wipe nights |
| 14:21.44 | luxus | kagaro: what settings you are using? |
| 14:21.55 | luxus | any example videos online? :D |
| 14:22.01 | Industrial | lulz ding 70 on my sham |
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| 14:22.08 | kagaro | luxus: yeah 1 sec |
| 14:22.11 | Industrial | OMG LIOL NOOBS |
| 14:22.35 | AckisWork | anyone know if the next gate will be unlocked today? |
| 14:22.35 | Elsia | Hjalte: hmm, I'll have to check resetting shouldn't have that effect but who knows. Resetting doesn't actually touch your data, just the internal sync values. |
| 14:22.41 | kagaro | http://files.filefront.com/Archimond+killmov/;10054894;/fileinfo.html |
| 14:22.53 | luxus | gz Industrial |
| 14:22.54 | kagaro | its big though 534 megs I believe |
| 14:23.05 | luxus | np .. 16mbit here |
| 14:23.19 | kagaro | download and watch, filefront streaming blows |
| 14:23.33 | QuantumDelta | use vimeo |
| 14:23.38 | luxus | yea |
| 14:24.36 | luxus | i still have to work with oUF but i think i am to stupid :( |
| 14:24.54 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: okay, not according to wowwiki |
| 14:24.58 | luxus | kagaro: what settings you use? can you give me a screenshot? |
| 14:25.02 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: perhaps you could update it |
| 14:25.46 | kagaro | not right now, at the office so cant fire up wow, but If I recall: H2.64 compression 1 notch above mid quality, 1280x 800 res |
| 14:25.53 | luxus | omg filefront is slow as hell |
| 14:26.12 | kagaro | luxus: yeah it is |
| 14:26.56 | luxus | i have heard alot of people get better results with snapx pro |
| 14:26.59 | Hjalte | Elsia: My friend is looking at his Recount now, which he did not reset since the tries yesterday. He can only see me in the last try, where we ended up killing Illidan, I'm not present on his meter on any of the other tries - But I was there all the time and on all tries. |
| 14:27.13 | luxus | snapz pro x :D |
| 14:27.25 | Elsia | Hjalte: did you reset before the last try or at some other time? |
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| 14:27.46 | luxus | but my pc is to slow |
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| 14:27.57 | Hjalte | Elsia: I might have reset after our very first try on that evening. I accidentically hit the wrong button when running back after a wipe. |
| 14:28.11 | Hjalte | Elsia: I didn't touch the reset button after that however. |
| 14:28.15 | CIA-40 | 03ammo * r72075 10oUF_DebuffHighlight/ (oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua readme.txt): |
| 14:28.15 | CIA-40 | oUF_DebuffHighlight: |
| 14:28.15 | CIA-40 | - Add support for using the actual debuff icon texture instead of coloring a frame. see readme.txt for details |
| 14:28.16 | Elsia | hmm |
| 14:28.22 | Elsia | I think the reset thing is a red herring |
| 14:28.35 | Elsia | does your friend have the boss segment only flag selected? |
| 14:28.43 | Gagorian | Has anyone ever had a GM being helpful? |
| 14:28.57 | [Ammo] | me |
| 14:29.00 | Gagorian | I got good service for the first time in a few years of wow |
| 14:29.14 | Hjalte | Elsia: No, he does not. I have however. |
| 14:29.21 | Gagorian | Teleported through two UBRS doors because gyth died so fast rend didn't have time to get off and the doors remained closed |
| 14:29.22 | Gagorian | :C |
| 14:30.52 | Elsia | someone reported that raid members were accidentally classified as ungrouped, I'll have to check how that happened. that's most likely an explanation but I'm not sure. |
| 14:31.29 | Hjalte | Elsia: By the way, how come he can see his whole raid from yesterday still, while at me, only myself is showing? If I tick show ungrouped, I still don't see them. |
| 14:32.04 | Elsia | if you untick show and collect it will delete everything in that category. you cannot tick and untick show and keep data currently |
| 14:32.35 | Hjalte | Elsia: Ah, so because he has show ungrouped on all the time, it did not delete the other members of his raid? |
| 14:32.41 | Elsia | yes |
| 14:32.52 | Hjalte | Clever thing :) |
| 14:32.56 | Elsia | recount is very aggressive in guessing what data is obsolete |
| 14:33.49 | CIA-40 | 03kagaro 07kagaro * r72076 10BigWigs_Cinematographer/ (BigWigs_Cinematographer.toc Cinematographer.lua): BigWigs_Cinematographer: stub checkin |
| 14:34.01 | kagaro | luxus: ive got a new Map Pro dual quadcore dont even notice the quicktime recording |
| 14:35.01 | luxus | :-P |
| 14:35.07 | luxus | i will try to record to another harddisk |
| 14:35.15 | luxus | i am on a hackintosh :D |
| 14:35.31 | RaydenUni | bah |
| 14:35.33 | RaydenUni | it's tuesday |
| 14:35.34 | RaydenUni | suck |
| 14:35.46 | RaydenUni | i was actually going to play |
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| 14:36.50 | luxus | kagaro: i just hope in june, new macbooks will come out |
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| 14:39.54 | Matrix110| | god why is nobody comitting the fix to chatter, even IF i request SVN access it takes 2 weeks-.- |
| 14:40.24 | hydrogen | because we like to listen to you bitch. |
| 14:40.26 | dylanm | Matrix110|: What's wrong with Chatter? |
| 14:40.32 | dylanm | We live for it. |
| 14:40.41 | Matrix110| | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12738.msg209776#msg209776 |
| 14:40.42 | Matrix110| | this:P |
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| 14:41.32 | ckknight | someone read http://curseforge.com/announcements/forks-and-clones-and-multiple-repositories/ and tell me what you think. |
| 14:41.59 | Matrix110| | standard font size should be a tad bigger:P |
| 14:42.16 | Matrix110| | (yeah i know i can make it larger but i shouldnt have to) |
| 14:44.00 | Industrial | ckknight: so instead of "I'll await your patch" it's now "I'll await your merge request" ? |
| 14:44.08 | ckknight | either works |
| 14:44.15 | ckknight | you have the option to do whatever you want |
| 14:44.15 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 14:44.18 | ckknight | that's the point, empowerment |
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| 14:45.23 | Matrix110| | sounds fine for me atleast |
| 14:46.03 | ckknight | I'm severely not fond of svn, btw, cause doing cool shit like this becomes a pain with it |
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| 14:46.52 | hydrogen | sounds a lot like github, ckknight |
| 14:46.57 | ckknight | gitorious, actually |
| 14:47.03 | ckknight | that's where I stole most of my ideas from |
| 14:47.14 | hydrogen | giteverything :p |
| 14:47.15 | ckknight | but the idea's for it to be repository-type agnostic |
| 14:47.20 | Chompers | ckk! |
| 14:47.20 | ckknight | so you'll be able to choose svn, git, or hg |
| 14:47.24 | ckknight | hey Chompers |
| 14:47.25 | Chompers | hello to you good sir |
| 14:47.31 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 14:47.41 | Chompers | not much at all |
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| 14:47.43 | Chompers | how's work |
| 14:47.47 | ckknight | alright |
| 14:47.56 | ckknight | coming up with ways to do repository hosting |
| 14:47.58 | ckknight | fun times |
| 14:48.05 | hydrogen | merging svn is always a fun time.. |
| 14:48.16 | Chompers | i bet |
| 14:48.16 | ckknight | no, it's bullshit through and through. |
| 14:48.20 | JJSheets | lol |
| 14:48.29 | hydrogen | least your not supporting cvs :) |
| 14:49.02 | Industrial | lol so I dinged 70 10 mins ago right |
| 14:49.02 | ckknight | svn is like a better cvs, thus, it is inherently flawed, as cvs in its own right is an inherently flawed concept |
| 14:49.03 | ckknight | imho |
| 14:49.09 | Industrial | right now someone is asking me for an SM boost |
| 14:49.14 | Industrial | ^__________^ priceless |
| 14:49.16 | ckknight | hehe |
| 14:49.17 | JJSheets | ckknight, I'm not looking at your UML diagram, my soul is still untarnished by that infernal taint. |
| 14:49.25 | JJSheets | But the rest sounds excellent. |
| 14:49.37 | ckknight | JJSheets: it's not big or anything, it just shows the relationships |
| 14:49.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 14:49.51 | JJSheets | yes, but UML is the work of the debbil. |
| 14:50.07 | Industrial | how so :P |
| 14:50.09 | Industrial | hi Kaelten |
| 14:50.11 | ckknight | do you know a better way to show model relationships in a graphical form? |
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| 14:50.30 | JJSheets | nope. but then again, I never have a need to do that. :p |
| 14:50.34 | Kaelten | ello |
| 14:50.49 | Matrix110| | hi |
| 14:50.54 | Industrial | JJSheets: in school they teach me that UML is the shitz!!11123 .. but thats school :D |
| 14:50.55 | ckknight | JJSheets: for projects with multiple people, it's good to get your thoughts out that way |
| 14:51.15 | ckknight | UML's bullshit, though, should only be used to get a glimpse of the design, not to dictate it months down the line |
| 14:51.39 | Matrix110| | btw can some op in #wowace-cia please allow nick changing its damn annoying to not be able to change your nick if you join that damn channel-.- |
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| 14:51.54 | Matrix110| | parting/rejoining is more lines than a nick change |
| 14:51.59 | Zhinjio | Good morning, good citizens of wowace |
| 14:52.31 | ckknight | Matrix110|: just part/rejoin |
| 14:52.35 | ckknight | morning, Zhinjio |
| 14:52.50 | Matrix110| | ckknight i know but that creates more "spam" in the chan than a nickchange.P |
| 14:52.58 | ckknight | ... |
| 14:53.02 | hydrogen | unfortunatly it's a failing of freenode, likely |
| 14:53.03 | ckknight | deal |
| 14:53.15 | hydrogen | as if the channel is moderated, you can't send nick changes |
| 14:53.22 | Matrix110| | oh |
| 14:53.26 | hydrogen | which are only tangentally related |
| 14:53.26 | Matrix110| | thats odd:P |
| 14:53.37 | Matrix110| | i thought its the +N i think flag |
| 14:54.11 | Matrix110| | ah well changed my perform to join it after 3minutes |
| 14:56.10 | CIA-40 | 03Shot * r72077 10DoIKnowYou/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-40 | DoIKnowYou: |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-40 | - Added Data view, allows you to browse and search through saved data. |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-40 | - Added auto-query options, with reporting to your chat frame and to a summary on the data view Frame.xml |
| 14:56.11 | CIA-40 | - Hidden auto-query on mouseover option. It would be a stupid thing to have. |
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| 14:57.26 | Zhinjio | ckknight: was my assertion last night correct about the translation stuff? If I want to break apart a single locale into two files (so that part of it can load in a module), I need a new namespace? |
| 14:57.40 | dieck | hi! Is there an addon to upload your guild vault contents to a website, for "public viewing"? We have a combined raid with a second guild, so they can't see our vault even not in the Armory. |
| 14:57.51 | ckknight | yes, Zhinjio |
| 14:57.56 | Zhinjio | ok, great. |
| 14:58.17 | Zhinjio | dieck: wowroster does that, although it may be pretty bulky for what you want (it doesn much much more than that) |
| 14:58.18 | JJSheets | is the curseforge auth database tied to curse.com? |
| 14:58.22 | luxus | ~seen kergoth |
| 14:58.23 | purl | kergoth is currently on #oe #norganna #wowuidev #elinux. Has said a total of 87 messages. Is idling for 20h 1m 14s, last said: 'wow error: R6025: Pure virtual function call'. |
| 15:00.24 | ckknight | JJSheets: yea |
| 15:00.51 | JJSheets | heh... I'm going to have to figure out what my curse password is then... :p |
| 15:00.56 | JJSheets | thanks |
| 15:02.11 | Fisker- | DO YOU WANT TO REBOOT NOW_! |
| 15:02.12 | Fisker- | ?! |
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| 15:03.28 | luxus | hm strange i was able to register again with the same name on curseforge |
| 15:03.33 | luxus | i check it :D |
| 15:04.16 | luxus | yes :D |
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| 15:05.46 | ckknight | shrugs |
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| 15:06.00 | ckknight | does anyone have any comments on my multiple repo thing, though? |
| 15:06.56 | JJSheets | ckknight, It looks and sounds good to me. I'll go look at the UML in a sec |
| 15:07.06 | ckknight | the uml's not that important |
| 15:07.11 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9496/ - "Cartographer Complete" |
| 15:07.15 | Xinhuan | so i just took a look at that |
| 15:07.16 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 15:07.25 | JJSheets | lol then it sounds perfect. |
| 15:07.26 | Xinhuan | and wondered why the hell that package contains GatherMate and Routes in it |
| 15:07.33 | Zhinjio | hahahah |
| 15:07.35 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
| 15:08.00 | Xinhuan | it makes NO sense |
| 15:08.13 | Hakker | it makes sense |
| 15:08.20 | ckknight | a little sense |
| 15:08.23 | Hakker | a n00b packed it |
| 15:08.29 | ckknight | I'll shut it down when Cart3 comes out |
| 15:08.31 | ckknight | :-P |
| 15:08.39 | ckknight | until then, I don't care all that much |
| 15:08.40 | Xinhuan | /chuckle |
| 15:08.54 | stew_a | is there any way i could get rid of the left hand part of the lower right frame in my aceconfig-3.0 generated config pane? http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot042908160751jp7.jpg |
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| 15:09.21 | DarkElf | Patch 2.4.2 update: Blacksmithing weapons no longer unique, wtf! |
| 15:09.32 | hydrogen | Oo |
| 15:09.38 | Paene | Anyone here use Scite for editing? |
| 15:09.42 | Elkano | I do |
| 15:09.47 | JJSheets | I do, too |
| 15:09.52 | hydrogen | too bad the weapons are still less good than the new badge ones |
| 15:10.00 | Paene | do you happen to have an up-to-date plug-in file for the WoW API? |
| 15:10.15 | AckisWork | is 2.4.2 coming out today? |
| 15:10.21 | Paene | and Widget API too |
| 15:10.31 | JJSheets | Unfortunately, no I have neither for Scite. |
| 15:10.37 | Paene | damn |
| 15:10.37 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: I don't think so |
| 15:10.38 | DarkElf | hope not just server maintenance |
| 15:10.47 | JJSheets | I just suffer. :p |
| 15:10.58 | Paene | the ones I have are from 2.0 I think |
| 15:11.00 | Paene | meh |
| 15:11.03 | Paene | I could manually fix them |
| 15:11.11 | Paene | it's just nice to have the tooltip information |
| 15:11.23 | Vulcanus | ckknight: It sounds good in theory, but I'm iffy about installing yet another version control system on my computer (I use SVN for other things than Ace), and if it is as hassle as it's been claimed to do with SVN, what's wrong with PATCH files? I didn't see anything describing just what was wrong with PATCH files, and I'm not well enough versed to have had to deal with those files thus far. |
| 15:12.11 | hydrogen | patch files don't track history |
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| 15:12.45 | Vulcanus | What you mean? If you altered the file after someone else made a patch file, it would mess up? |
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| 15:13.46 | Paene | JJSheets: If you want I can post the plug-ins, they're kinda nice |
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| 15:14.02 | AckisWork | "the curse-curseforge synchronization" sounds interesting |
| 15:14.06 | Cheads | uhmm a profession cooldown "alerter" addon, does such one exist? |
| 15:14.08 | hydrogen | it can, or if you want to develop a large change, your stuck either a) sending 300 consective patch files or b) sending one gigantic patch file |
| 15:14.29 | CIA-40 | 03funkydude * r72078 10BigWigs/Plugins/Comm.lua: BigWigs: Comm: Probably best to throttle multibossdeath |
| 15:14.38 | Zhinjio | Cheads: many of them. I use SkillsPlusFu |
| 15:14.50 | JJSheets | Paene, no thanks, I'm fine sufferring. :p |
| 15:14.56 | Paene | lol ok |
| 15:15.11 | Cheads | Zhinjio thanks, will check it out |
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| 15:16.48 | stew_a | so, anyone know how i can remove the "bot profile" part of the frame, or make it into a seperate page with aceconfig? http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot042908160751jp7.jpg |
| 15:16.58 | JJSheets | ckknight, you fucker. Your handwriting is damn near identical to mine. |
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| 15:17.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 15:17.41 | Vulcanus | stew_a: what did you do to cryo2 :p |
| 15:17.53 | Apoco | luxus stop triggering my irc window to flash :p |
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| 15:18.32 | luxus | it was just 1 time :D |
| 15:18.51 | luxus | and i promote how good ur support is :-P |
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| 15:20.15 | ckknight | AckisWork: I get to work on that today |
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| 15:20.42 | ckknight | Vulcanus: SVN can blow me, it sucks compared to git or hg or other dscms |
| 15:20.46 | AckisWork | ckknight: looking forward to it, I get a lot of comments on curse :) |
| 15:20.56 | stew_a | vulcanus: nowt, it just does that when i open the config windows |
| 15:22.19 | Paene | stew_a: why a custom button for hearthstone? :-p |
| 15:22.24 | CIA-40 | 03toadkiller * r72079 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:22.24 | CIA-40 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 15:22.24 | CIA-40 | -- 7307:75 Flesh Eating Worm |
| 15:22.42 | ckknight | anyone have any comments on this category list: http://pastie.caboo.se/private/tq5l3ulwebkpvxgeeqoubg |
| 15:22.49 | ckknight | anything to be added, removed, renamed, etc |
| 15:22.57 | stew_a | lol can you stop picking apart my ui config and help please? |
| 15:22.59 | CIA-40 | 03jncl * r72080 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:22.59 | CIA-40 | Skinner: Handle Addons under the control of a LoadManager |
| 15:22.59 | CIA-40 | - Updated BetterInbox & SpellBind skins because of this change |
| 15:22.59 | CIA-40 | - Updated CharactersViewer skin (thanks to Repelsteel) |
| 15:23.39 | JJSheets | ckknight, Add a roleplaying category |
| 15:23.51 | Paene | stew_a: you wanna remove that left-part where it says "Bot Profile"? |
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| 15:23.57 | stew_a | paene: yep |
| 15:23.57 | Zhinjio | I suspect that "Data Export" will be almost unused. but it looks good. |
| 15:24.08 | ckknight | Zhinjio: no, it's used |
| 15:24.12 | ckknight | Zhinjio: e.g. CurseProfiler |
| 15:24.12 | AckisWork | ckknight: expand professions to have each type as a sub-category, and possibly rename it to tradeskills instead of professions |
| 15:24.25 | Paene | I'm not so sure you can...you're using AddToBlizOptions right? |
| 15:24.25 | ckknight | AckisWork: I prefer professions, why is tradeskills better? |
| 15:24.31 | Paene | pastey your options table |
| 15:24.45 | stew_a | one sec |
| 15:24.49 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I'm not saying there aren't addons that fit that mold. |
| 15:25.07 | AckisWork | ckknight: More in line with terminology used already, iirc it's a tradeskill category in x-category and on curse |
| 15:25.13 | Aeyan | I don't think there's -that- many tradeskill specific addons |
| 15:25.19 | stew_a | http://ace.pastey.net/86876 |
| 15:25.36 | Aeyan | Only one I'd like to see split into subcatagories is combat, but I can't think of any decent way to do |
| 15:25.45 | Aeyan | And only that one, because it's always massive |
| 15:25.50 | ckknight | AckisWork: yea, this is to replace both. |
| 15:25.57 | ckknight | AckisWork: that's the point |
| 15:26.03 | ckknight | AckisWork: or at least on curse |
| 15:26.05 | Paene | stew_a: have you tried taking out name = "Bot Profile"? |
| 15:26.17 | Kalroth_ | Where's Antiarc when I need to stab him with pointy objects?! |
| 15:26.31 | JJSheets | ~seen antiarc |
| 15:26.40 | purl | antiarc <n=Antiarc@wsip-70-184-82-98.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9h 38m ago, saying: '100% JoW uptime + chain potting makes it a lot harder for hunters to go OOM'. |
| 15:26.40 | ckknight | AckisWork: I just think that Professions sounds better and is more descriptive overall, because is First Aid a tradeskill? |
| 15:26.42 | ckknight | I suppose you could trade bandages, but would you? |
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| 15:27.12 | AckisWork | ckknight: I think they're interchangable... first aid = poison cleansing for example... |
| 15:27.31 | Cheads | they are called professions in-game.. so why not use that? |
| 15:27.37 | Paene | stew_a: did that work? |
| 15:27.44 | Vanduror | what's the point of the caster category? |
| 15:27.48 | stew_a | paene: nope, just broke lots of stuff |
| 15:27.52 | Paene | lol |
| 15:28.09 | stew_a | big ui takes like 2 mins to load |
| 15:28.10 | JJSheets | I'm off to work. Have fun, ya'll. |
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| 15:28.52 | Paene | stew_a: one sec |
| 15:29.05 | ckknight | Cheads: yea, that's the idea |
| 15:29.56 | Paene | stew_a: add the name back in...you could try playing with hidden = true |
| 15:30.04 | ckknight | Vanduror: Clique, for instance |
| 15:30.18 | AckisWork | ~seen elkano |
| 15:30.18 | purl | elkano is currently on #wowuidev (9h 6m 17s) #wowace (9h 6m 17s) #curseforge (9h 6m 17s). Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 20m 36s, last said: 'I do'. |
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| 15:30.48 | Paene | I'm just making guesses btw, the only other option is to do something similar to Cryo2, where you make a container frame then add your options to that container frame, then add that container frame to Blizz's Interface Options |
| 15:31.00 | Paene | or just use AceConfig directly |
| 15:31.21 | Paene | and say screw Blizzard and their crappy Interface Options dialog |
| 15:31.26 | Paene | lol |
| 15:31.29 | Fisker- | ding! |
| 15:31.36 | Fisker- | 1GB bandwitdh used in WAU |
| 15:31.37 | stew_a | Paene: that hides the whole group, however the container frame style is good, i just have no idea how to do it |
| 15:31.37 | Fisker- | poor Kaelten |
| 15:31.47 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:31.49 | Kaelten | Fisker-: ? |
| 15:31.58 | AckisWork | I hope you at least click an ad a day :P |
| 15:32.09 | [Ammo] | Kaelten: send fisker a bill for using his first gig of bandwith in WAU |
| 15:32.09 | Paene | stew_a: look in Cryo2.lua, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out |
| 15:32.14 | Fisker- | :D |
| 15:32.16 | Kaelten | oh WAU uses more than 120TB a month |
| 15:32.16 | Paene | you can almost literally copy and paste |
| 15:32.17 | stew_a | ok willdo thanks |
| 15:32.18 | Kaelten | :P |
| 15:32.22 | Paene | and change a few strings |
| 15:32.26 | Fisker- | damn |
| 15:32.36 | AckisWork | ... 120 TB? |
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| 15:32.39 | AckisWork | wow |
| 15:32.40 | Kaelten | or rather the files server does |
| 15:32.59 | Paene | how do you guys pay the server cost? |
| 15:33.01 | Paene | that's crazy |
| 15:33.02 | Fisker- | doesn't it have better bandwitdh now then? |
| 15:33.15 | ckknight | Paene: sexual favors |
| 15:33.18 | Matrix110| | I think curse is sponsoring quite a bit bandwith now? |
| 15:33.20 | Paene | lol |
| 15:33.29 | mykx | 120 TB jesus your bandwidth bills must be insane |
| 15:33.52 | CIA-40 | 03funkydude * r72081 10DBMFTLBBQ/DBMFTLBBQ.lua: DBMFTLBBQ: update for latest version |
| 15:33.55 | Elkano | ~poke Ackis |
| 15:33.56 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Ackis, pokes Ackis repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 15:33.57 | Paene | WTB bulk bandwidth? |
| 15:33.58 | Paene | lol |
| 15:34.01 | Matrix110| | well actually 120TB arent THAT expensive but most hosters charge to much:P |
| 15:34.11 | AckisWork | gasps |
| 15:34.29 | *** join/#wowace q0909_ (n=chatzill@218.19.141.156) |
| 15:34.46 | Tasky | how can I detect if a name or GUID is a member of the party? |
| 15:34.59 | [Ammo] | you can use the flags in the event |
| 15:35.09 | [Ammo] | instead of the name or guid |
| 15:35.09 | Tasky | oh okay :) |
| 15:35.19 | [Ammo] | see libguidregistry-1.0 for an example |
| 15:35.35 | Tasky | http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag thx :) |
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| 15:35.40 | Kaelten | http://pastie.caboo.se/private/h1u3zogltezcb9ytkuvw |
| 15:35.49 | ckknight | ^--- new category list |
| 15:35.50 | Kaelten | geif more feedback please |
| 15:35.58 | Zhinjio | question: one of the reported problems in my plugin is that the dewdrop menu is coming down "behind" the main frame. CLearing out of the layout-cache.txt file (which apparently has old strata information in it) seems to fix this. Is there a way I can force that information that is cached to go away? |
| 15:36.03 | Zhinjio | programatically? |
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| 15:36.16 | [Ammo] | QuestS and Levelling |
| 15:36.19 | [Ammo] | it's missing an S |
| 15:36.36 | [Ammo] | HUDs should be below Unit Frames |
| 15:37.01 | Tasky | should it be Buff or Buffs? since Debuffs is pluralized |
| 15:37.11 | CIA-40 | 03xinhuan * r72082 10BankItems/BankItems.lua: BankItems: Fix error that occurs on fresh install. Thanks rza. |
| 15:37.43 | [Ammo] | I'm missing a Group, Party, Raid section |
| 15:37.48 | AckisWork | ckknight: expand Damage Dealing to ranged/melee maybe? and possibly add something under unit frames for raid specific ones (I still get confused as to which forum Sraidframes is in on Wowace) |
| 15:37.49 | [Ammo] | whateveryou want to call it |
| 15:38.03 | [Ammo] | you have Raids, but tehre are also party specific addons |
| 15:38.20 | ckknight | you can specify multiple categories |
| 15:38.20 | mykx | yeah true for all those srs 5 mans |
| 15:38.23 | ckknight | bt |
| 15:38.24 | ckknight | btw* |
| 15:38.36 | [Ammo] | still misses a Party section :) |
| 15:38.45 | ckknight | true |
| 15:39.00 | AckisWork | multiple categories = answers my comments |
| 15:39.08 | [Ammo] | you should expand Audio to Audio & Video |
| 15:39.12 | Zhinjio | anyone have any thoughts on that layout-cache thing? |
| 15:39.14 | [Ammo] | since video addons are coming as well |
| 15:39.25 | [Ammo] | with mac movie support and all |
| 15:39.31 | [Ammo] | maybe a MAC only section? |
| 15:39.54 | [Ammo] | Audio, Video Screenshot? |
| 15:40.12 | luxus | strange.. in germany nobody use macs for playing wow :D |
| 15:40.17 | mykx | meh then its grouping mac only stuff into a general category |
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| 15:40.28 | luxus | i am the only one in the whole guild |
| 15:40.31 | Tasky | ew |
| 15:40.33 | Tasky | MAC |
| 15:40.39 | luxus | 90accounts |
| 15:41.36 | Gagorian | I was about to say that I guess there aren't that many fags in Germany |
| 15:41.42 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:41.44 | Gagorian | But I realized it's not an insult |
| 15:41.45 | Gagorian | :< |
| 15:41.53 | Gagorian | On the other hand if you're using mac |
| 15:41.55 | Gagorian | I guess it is |
| 15:41.57 | *** part/#wowace DarkElf (n=Dark_Elf@206.169.253.19) |
| 15:42.13 | Gagorian | I'm satisfied with the insult level in the comment |
| 15:42.16 | Gagorian | *nods sagely* |
| 15:42.39 | mykx | lay off the crack Gagorian :) |
| 15:43.25 | Matrix110| | I can understand people using Linux |
| 15:43.29 | Matrix110| | but not using a mac |
| 15:44.31 | durcyn | i didn't realize that you understanding it was a prerequisite. |
| 15:44.44 | Matrix110| | it isnt:p |
| 15:44.45 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:44.46 | *** part/#wowace loriel (n=ben@dslb-088-067-244-226.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:44.56 | Zhinjio | I was going to comment, but was busy stuffing my face. |
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| 15:45.27 | AckisWork | comments on you stuffing your face. |
| 15:45.42 | Matrix110| | I just dont understand how you can support a company that has worse Business politcs than MS :D |
| 15:45.52 | Zhinjio | o.O |
| 15:46.33 | durcyn | it's easy: 1. I like their products. |
| 15:46.40 | durcyn | there is no two |
| 15:46.50 | *** join/#wowace AvitusLC (n=Avitus@62.135.96.93) |
| 15:47.15 | Zhinjio | 2) Master of Marketing. |
| 15:47.17 | AckisWork | shouldn't two be: see 1? |
| 15:47.20 | Zhinjio | 3) Master of Packaging Science |
| 15:47.30 | Zhinjio | 4) Cooler than you. |
| 15:48.22 | Zhinjio | I have no issue with them, honestly, even though my usage of their products is limited to utility devices and not their computers |
| 15:48.43 | Zhinjio | I used a macbook at my last job, and it was perfectly adequate to the task. |
| 15:48.51 | CIA-40 | 03Sorata * r72083 10Poppins/Frames.lua: |
| 15:48.51 | CIA-40 | Poppins: |
| 15:48.51 | CIA-40 | - Fix the scale bug |
| 15:48.58 | Zhinjio | and satisfied my need for my tools to be aesthetically pleasing. |
| 15:49.02 | AckisWork | I don't like the mac vs pc commercials |
| 15:49.09 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 15:49.24 | Xinhuan | do you have OCD? :) |
| 15:49.25 | Xinhuan | http://www.therightfoot.net/mystuff/whatever/swf/bubblewrap.swf |
| 15:49.49 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: why did you do that to me? |
| 15:50.10 | *** join/#wowace Vecnah (n=vec@vecna.vecnix.net) |
| 15:50.32 | AckisWork | I'm OCD: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Illidan&n=Ackis :( |
| 15:50.45 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: that is awesome. |
| 15:50.50 | durcyn | ~stab Ackis |
| 15:50.51 | purl | ACTION runs at Ackis with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 15:51.37 | AckisWork | :( |
| 15:52.20 | Xinhuan | not good enough ackis |
| 15:52.41 | AckisWork | sorry |
| 15:52.47 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: I have a vexing problem, if you're interested. |
| 15:52.57 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Xinhuan |
| 15:52.58 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 15:53.16 | Xinhuan | ok i'm working on Booty bay rep :( |
| 15:53.34 | AckisWork | if you're on illidan send me your darkmoon faire cards to help me get exalted there |
| 15:53.37 | Xinhuan | i think its the only thing that's tarnishing it |
| 15:53.46 | AckisWork | Xinhuan, you're a man of my own obsessions |
| 15:53.52 | AckisWork | (or woman :P) |
| 15:54.00 | Xinhuan | see, farming that key to save the dire maul goblin is boring |
| 15:54.06 | Xinhuan | i farmed 2 today |
| 15:54.18 | AckisWork | I made a lot of gold when I did it |
| 15:54.22 | Xinhuan | just need some 60 more keys as you can see |
| 15:54.28 | Xinhuan | and i'll have a full page exalted |
| 15:55.01 | AckisWork | You need to work on ravenholdt |
| 15:55.06 | Xinhuan | i have a 64 rogue |
| 15:55.09 | Xinhuan | that helps! |
| 15:55.19 | AckisWork | lol yah I leveled up a rogue for that same purpose lol |
| 15:55.36 | Xinhuan | clearly my 0/3000 looks better than your 2665/3000 |
| 15:55.43 | AckisWork | pfft |
| 15:55.43 | Xinhuan | its neither here nor there! |
| 15:55.56 | mykx | too much time on your hands Xinhuan and Ackis lol |
| 15:56.00 | Xinhuan | and your gelkis centaur is full of fail |
| 15:56.04 | *** join/#wowace Julith (n=Miranda@i577B529A.versanet.de) |
| 15:56.12 | AckisWork | You can't get exalted with them so why bother? :P pfft |
| 15:56.20 | elite3vil | I'm with Mykx on this one folks. =P |
| 15:56.40 | Xinhuan | you can reach 11999/12000 |
| 15:56.45 | Xinhuan | so that it looks good |
| 15:56.47 | Xinhuan | also, |
| 15:56.52 | AckisWork | fair enough |
| 15:56.53 | Xinhuan | they give 4 rep per kill |
| 15:57.02 | Xinhuan | so you can easily reach that in about 8 hours of farming nonstop |
| 15:57.07 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (n=bla@pD957EF54.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:57.19 | AckisWork | It may be time to go holy nova spec again :P |
| 15:57.23 | elite3vil | Then again, I'll probably do the same thing after I finish leveling these last two toons to 70. (65 spriest, 61 warlock) and I'll have one of each class. |
| 15:57.27 | Xinhuan | don't |
| 15:57.34 | Xinhuan | the centaurs are far apart from each other |
| 15:57.39 | Xinhuan | its impossible to aoe them |
| 15:57.39 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 15:57.41 | Xinhuan | and i'm a mage |
| 15:57.49 | Xinhuan | i just scorch twice and the mob is dead |
| 15:58.14 | Xinhuan | don't even need to wear any special gear |
| 15:58.18 | Xinhuan | to regen mana |
| 15:58.42 | AckisWork | well in healing gear I have 300ish mp5 so mana won't be an issue |
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| 15:58.51 | Xinhuan | i didn't even use a single drink |
| 15:58.56 | Xinhuan | the mobs are THAT far apart |
| 15:59.02 | AckisWork | wow |
| 15:59.23 | Xinhuan | like 60 yards between each of them |
| 15:59.30 | Xinhuan | but if you think about it |
| 15:59.36 | Xinhuan | 16k rep is only 4k kills |
| 15:59.51 | AckisWork | they drop mageweave/runecloth too right? |
| 15:59.52 | Xinhuan | you can easily do 200-300 kills per hours |
| 16:00.02 | Xinhuan | they drop wool cloth |
| 16:00.05 | Xinhuan | i dont' even bother ;p |
| 16:00.13 | Xinhuan | just kill and go, kill and go |
| 16:00.19 | AckisWork | ugh |
| 16:00.34 | Xinhuan | so about 3 days of 4 hours each, easy |
| 16:00.41 | AckisWork | I suppose I'll have to work on it |
| 16:00.47 | Xinhuan | its not like steemwhedel cartel |
| 16:00.51 | Xinhuan | that actually required effort |
| 16:00.55 | AckisWork | should have a lot of time assuming that the gate isn't open |
| 16:00.55 | Xinhuan | or wintersaber mount |
| 16:01.00 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 16:01.04 | NivFreak | no patch today eh |
| 16:01.27 | AckisWork | ravenholdt is going to take the most effort =/ |
| 16:01.58 | genetik | more effort than shen'dralar? |
| 16:02.15 | Xinhuan | definitely much more than shandralar |
| 16:02.23 | AckisWork | aye |
| 16:02.23 | Xinhuan | shandralar was easy |
| 16:02.31 | genetik | easy, yeah.. but the books are unique |
| 16:02.33 | AckisWork | I learnt how to solo scholo on a holy priest |
| 16:02.39 | Xinhuan | just buy tomes on AH, farm the occasional skin of shadows |
| 16:02.43 | Xinhuan | its freaking easy |
| 16:02.51 | AckisWork | you could do 3 turn ins at once |
| 16:03.04 | AckisWork | rapidity (easy as hell), protection and focus |
| 16:03.05 | Xinhuan | books are unique isn't even an issue, since i just throw all the extras in the guild bank ;p |
| 16:03.14 | Xinhuan | then take them out |
| 16:03.35 | AckisWork | it was easier to mail them to yourself so you just had to go to the camp to get a new set of 3 |
| 16:04.05 | Xinhuan | that requires work ;p |
| 16:04.18 | Xinhuan | i set my hearth to feralas |
| 16:04.23 | Xinhuan | so its not an issue for me |
| 16:04.48 | AckisWork | ahh I'd turn in multiple at a time... my fishing hat had 10 dodge on it however :P lol |
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| 16:05.07 | Xinhuan | i used to have all 300 skills, i didn't bother with 375 though |
| 16:05.07 | sag_ich_nicht | oh god i just ate 2 pounds of pasta. |
| 16:05.09 | sag_ich_nicht | burp |
| 16:05.19 | Xinhuan | meleeing with a staff is just a bit too painful |
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| 16:05.31 | AckisWork | I ground my 375 out of Shadow Labs... unarmed was annoying |
| 16:05.48 | Xinhuan | i did mine by buying a lvl 3 white staff |
| 16:05.59 | Xinhuan | and equipping it and just meleed the lvl 18 ogres in loch modan |
| 16:06.02 | Xinhuan | the elite ones |
| 16:06.05 | AckisWork | I did staves first as that's what I use bleh |
| 16:06.10 | sag_ich_nicht | why |
| 16:06.11 | sag_ich_nicht | did you not |
| 16:06.17 | sag_ich_nicht | melee the guys in SMV |
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| 16:06.20 | CIA-40 | Whisp: |
| 16:06.20 | CIA-40 | - Tweaked positioning/resizing code |
| 16:06.28 | Xinhuan | i'll usually kill 3 before i need to eat one, and if i wear a hp regen trinket, i don't need much |
| 16:06.58 | Xinhuan | "the guy in smv" who? |
| 16:07.56 | elite3vil | I think they're talking about the guys in SMV with the elemental totems around them, that're immune until you kill the totems. |
| 16:09.07 | ennuilg | That's Blasted Lands, surely? |
| 16:09.13 | elite3vil | No. |
| 16:09.21 | AckisWork | both areas have them |
| 16:09.32 | ennuilg | Oh. Fair enough. A long time since I quested in SMV. |
| 16:09.33 | AckisWork | if you kite on of the ones from smv to ad'al you cause issues |
| 16:09.51 | elite3vil | Really? How so? |
| 16:10.14 | AckisWork | ad'al can't be killed, they can't be killed... bad things happen |
| 16:10.23 | sag_ich_nicht | Ackis pics |
| 16:10.30 | AckisWork | don't have any :( |
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| 16:10.45 | sag_ich_nicht | [18:06] <Xinhuan> "the guy in smv" who? <--the elemental guys |
| 16:10.49 | sag_ich_nicht | that are surrounded by totems |
| 16:10.57 | sag_ich_nicht | leave the totems alone and you can melee them forever |
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| 16:11.23 | Polarina | sag_ich_nicht: Durability? |
| 16:11.23 | elite3vil | It's unfortunate that you can't proc windfury off them because they're immune though. |
| 16:11.31 | sag_ich_nicht | Polarina: they don't attack you |
| 16:11.35 | sag_ich_nicht | oh you mean |
| 16:11.35 | ckknight | what's a better name for instancing that doesn't use the word "raid"? |
| 16:11.36 | Polarina | o.O |
| 16:11.37 | sag_ich_nicht | weapon durability |
| 16:11.52 | [Ammo] | dungeoncrawling! |
| 16:11.54 | Xinhuan | you can skill off those? |
| 16:11.56 | Zhinjio | Dungeons? |
| 16:11.58 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: yeah |
| 16:12.01 | Xinhuan | i thought you can't |
| 16:12.06 | sag_ich_nicht | Xinhuan: they yell immune at you but you get weapon skill |
| 16:12.10 | [Ammo] | but yeah Dungeons |
| 16:12.13 | Polarina | ckknight: "A large group of people gathered to perform a certain task." |
| 16:12.19 | sag_ich_nicht | you can, i grinded my 2h axe skill to 375 for kael'thas there |
| 16:12.21 | mykx | what's wrong with the word raid ? everyone knows exactly what it is |
| 16:12.27 | sag_ich_nicht | no |
| 16:12.29 | ckknight | Zhinjio: not everything's a dungeon |
| 16:12.32 | sag_ich_nicht | the generally public doesn't |
| 16:12.37 | Xinhuan | ~dict raid |
| 16:12.43 | Xinhuan | ~dict 2 raid |
| 16:12.44 | Shot | what's wrong with "instancing"? |
| 16:12.44 | Xinhuan | bah |
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| 16:12.47 | ckknight | mykx: confuses the verb to raid with the 25/40-man group |
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| 16:13.07 | Xinhuan | ~dict 3 raid |
| 16:13.10 | Zhinjio | Groups & Raids? |
| 16:13.15 | Primer | speaking of differentiation between 10/15/25/40 man groups... |
| 16:13.25 | Primer | when is pitbull gonna get that? |
| 16:13.28 | ckknight | Zhinjio: yes, but what about the other category which covers going to instances and the like? |
| 16:13.30 | Xinhuan | by wow definition, a group larger than a size of 5 is a raid |
| 16:13.40 | ckknight | Primer: when someone gives me like $1000 |
| 16:13.43 | Xinhuan | its even defined in the raid tab |
| 16:13.49 | Shot | ckknight: why do you need an alternative? |
| 16:13.57 | Primer | sets up a paypal fund |
| 16:14.00 | ckknight | Shot: because instancing sounds weird |
| 16:14.04 | Zhinjio | Groups covers 5 mans, Raids covers everything bigger than that. both in and out of instances. |
| 16:14.07 | Primer | and promptly siphons a percentage... |
| 16:14.13 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 16:14.14 | Shot | it's the only term which really covers everything |
| 16:14.16 | mykx | Raid & Party ? |
| 16:14.27 | ckknight | Zhinjio: party = 5-man, raid = >5-man, group = party U raid |
| 16:14.30 | Xinhuan | "Raids and Dungeons" |
| 16:14.34 | Polarina | ckknight: A Gathering? |
| 16:14.44 | Zhinjio | so Parties and Raids |
| 16:14.45 | Primer | A fellowship, perhaps? |
| 16:14.45 | [Ammo] | I'm with xinhyan |
| 16:14.47 | Zhinjio | Party & Raid |
| 16:14.50 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 16:14.55 | ThiefMaster | s/U/\cup |
| 16:14.55 | ckknight | basically, I want to separate the group raid from the verb to raid |
| 16:14.56 | ThiefMaster | ;p |
| 16:15.04 | [Ammo] | party & raid suggests the actual grouo, raids and dungeons suggests the instances |
| 16:15.13 | CIA-40 | 03borlox 07Borlox * r72085 10Fortress/Fortress/ (Core.lua Options.lua): |
| 16:15.14 | CIA-40 | Fortress: |
| 16:15.14 | CIA-40 | - fixed Hide Tooltip in combat setting |
| 16:15.14 | CIA-40 | - renamed a few things (Func: BorderBackground -> UpdateColor, DB: BorderColor -> borderColor, etc) |
| 16:15.14 | Xinhuan | "Dungeons and Raids" then |
| 16:15.14 | Zhinjio | agreed. |
| 16:15.20 | ckknight | [Ammo]: not gonna use "raid" in two categories |
| 16:15.24 | Xinhuan | putting raids behind dungeons has the implied meaning |
| 16:15.25 | Apoco | ckknight: Do you still have a combat log from council from 2.4.2? |
| 16:15.29 | ckknight | no |
| 16:15.35 | Apoco | bleh |
| 16:15.41 | Xinhuan | or just call it Dungeons then |
| 16:15.41 | [Ammo] | ckknight: xinhuan speaks truth :p |
| 16:15.48 | [Ammo] | even blizzard calls them raids |
| 16:15.50 | Psycho | Apoco, I just installed RBM last night. Loving it so far, it'll get its acid test in BT tonight. Thanks for your hard work and keep it up. |
| 16:16.05 | ckknight | Dungeons & Encounters? |
| 16:16.16 | ckknight | well, thing is, not everything's a dungeon |
| 16:16.18 | Apoco | ty Psycho |
| 16:16.19 | CIA-40 | 03arthiceu * r72086 10LootToGuild/ (LootToGuild.lua LootToGuild.toc): |
| 16:16.19 | CIA-40 | LootToGuild: |
| 16:16.19 | CIA-40 | - version 0.11 |
| 16:16.20 | CIA-40 | - added 'itemName ~= "Badge of Justice" ' to prevent badges of justice being spammed to the guild-channel |
| 16:16.21 | Xinhuan | the Blizzard term for all of that is "Instances" |
| 16:16.32 | ckknight | e.g. Zul'Aman is above ground, thus, not a dungeon |
| 16:16.37 | mykx | gonna go with xinhuan here Dungeons & Raids has a nice ring to it |
| 16:16.44 | Apoco | I have to agree with Ck there |
| 16:16.45 | [Ammo] | arthiceu needs to learn about itemid's |
| 16:16.48 | Apoco | a dungeon is underground. |
| 16:16.49 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight: it's still a dungeon, cry more |
| 16:16.53 | ckknight | sag_ich_nicht: no u |
| 16:16.54 | sag_ich_nicht | OVERWOLRD-->DUNGEON |
| 16:16.56 | ckknight | also, it's not |
| 16:16.57 | Apoco | ~dictionary Dungeon |
| 16:16.57 | purl | see dict Dungeon |
| 16:16.58 | [Ammo] | I'd say go with whatever terms blizzard uses |
| 16:17.02 | sag_ich_nicht | i don't care. |
| 16:17.03 | Apoco | ~dict ungeon |
| 16:17.06 | sag_ich_nicht | t's a dungeon |
| 16:17.07 | Apoco | ~dict dungeon |
| 16:17.09 | sag_ich_nicht | +i |
| 16:17.12 | Elkano | it sucks when the loot master misassigns items :/ |
| 16:17.27 | Psycho | Purl uses the bible for its definitions? O.o |
| 16:17.29 | mykx | Elkano: we just raid with FFA on :\ |
| 16:17.31 | Apoco | wtf |
| 16:17.33 | Psycho | rofl |
| 16:17.35 | Apoco | fail purl |
| 16:17.40 | Psycho | That was probably the best thing I've ever seen purl do |
| 16:17.55 | Polarina | Elkano: Just don't use the master-looter option. |
| 16:18.01 | Apoco | ~dict dungeon 2 |
| 16:18.10 | ckknight | 2 dungeon |
| 16:18.16 | Apoco | ~dict 2 dungeon |
| 16:18.22 | Apoco | there we go. |
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| 16:18.31 | Zhinjio | ther eyou go. |
| 16:18.34 | Zhinjio | tower == above ground. |
| 16:18.38 | mykx | dungeon = prison dont need a dictionary lol |
| 16:18.41 | sag_ich_nicht | QED |
| 16:18.41 | ckknight | what if it's outside? |
| 16:18.43 | Xinhuan | ~dict 3 dungeon |
| 16:18.44 | ckknight | e.g. Zul'Aman |
| 16:18.51 | [Ammo] | ckknight: it's still a raid instance |
| 16:18.56 | sag_ich_nicht | it's a dungeon in terms of game design |
| 16:18.56 | Elkano | well, after 2hr and 3 tickets the issue is being looked into by GMs... so couple of days until I know more |
| 16:18.57 | sag_ich_nicht | christ |
| 16:19.02 | ckknight | [Ammo]: no rebuttal there, it's just not a dungon |
| 16:19.04 | Zhinjio | the semantics of this discussion has ceased being interesting. |
| 16:19.05 | [Ammo] | how about "(Raid) Instance" |
| 16:19.06 | Apoco | oh btw its official |
| 16:19.10 | sag_ich_nicht | Elkano apparently you fail at writing tickets |
| 16:19.14 | Xinhuan | ~dict 4 dungeon |
| 16:19.20 | sag_ich_nicht | others it would have been solved after an hour |
| 16:19.24 | Apoco | if you guys have loot disappear from the gauntlet in Sunwell, its gone forever |
| 16:19.25 | sag_ich_nicht | *otherwiese |
| 16:19.30 | Apoco | GM's apparently "can't" verify that it dropped |
| 16:19.33 | Xinhuan | why apoco |
| 16:19.38 | Xinhuan | what happened |
| 16:19.39 | Apoco | or so they say |
| 16:19.47 | Zhinjio | Kwality. |
| 16:19.52 | mykx | go with "Dungeons & Raids" since thats how blizzard forum lists it and they are always right |
| 16:19.53 | Elkano | well, LM ticketed, got told the one who got and who should get shall ticket and I was told the one who got the item would have been enought... |
| 16:19.59 | Apoco | we had the mail healing gloves drop last night, the mob despawned 2 seconds after death and the GM said that it cant be refunded. |
| 16:20.15 | ckknight | mykx: except that I want to separate the >5-man group "raid" from the act of raiding |
| 16:20.15 | Xinhuan | which mob is this? |
| 16:20.19 | Apoco | because it wasn't "looted and rot" |
| 16:20.26 | Apoco | the commanders |
| 16:20.29 | Apoco | whatever their name is |
| 16:20.33 | Polarina | ckknight: Battalia? |
| 16:20.38 | Xinhuan | are these the ones after brutallus? |
| 16:20.41 | Apoco | yeah |
| 16:20.48 | Apoco | the only one with a loot table |
| 16:20.53 | mykx | sure so you want large group addons but not aimed at raiding |
| 16:21.02 | ckknight | yes. |
| 16:21.05 | ckknight | e.g. sRaidFrames |
| 16:21.14 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight okay stop this |
| 16:21.19 | sag_ich_nicht | ckknight WHY DO YOU NEED THIS ANYWAY |
| 16:21.21 | [Ammo] | those are in the UnitFrames - Raid category |
| 16:21.25 | ckknight | for curse's categories |
| 16:21.29 | [Ammo] | just make subcategories under UnitFrames |
| 16:21.29 | Kaelten | sag_ich_nicht: because we do :P |
| 16:21.30 | sag_ich_nicht | facepalm |
| 16:21.32 | [Ammo] | it'll be clear as pie |
| 16:21.32 | ckknight | also, don't use caps. |
| 16:21.40 | sag_ich_nicht | bite me |
| 16:21.47 | Kaelten | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:21.47 | purl | smacks sag_ich_nicht up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 16:21.58 | *** mode/#wowace [-v sag_ich_nicht] by ckknight |
| 16:22.03 | sag_ich_nicht | what. |
| 16:22.04 | mykx | yeah ammo has a good idea there |
| 16:22.10 | sag_ich_nicht | you can't do that, i didn't even have that. |
| 16:22.13 | mykx | just list them as a sub category for unit frames, problem solved |
| 16:22.20 | ckknight | but I did it |
| 16:22.29 | sag_ich_nicht | unacceptable. |
| 16:22.35 | ckknight | no u |
| 16:24.16 | mykx | hrm I shouldn't wake up early on tuesdays.. always bored |
| 16:24.25 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72087 10LibDataBroker-1.0/MO_ItemValue/ (. ItemValueMO.lua MO_ItemValue.toc): |
| 16:24.25 | CIA-40 | MO_ItemValue: |
| 16:24.25 | CIA-40 | - Intial import. A model providing armor item value data. |
| 16:24.26 | elite3vil | Tuesdays suck. |
| 16:24.44 | mykx | We had our first look at the twins last night was pretty hilarious with the insta wipes |
| 16:25.12 | elite3vil | We're still stuck on Brut. people *really* need to stop quitting so we can have the appropriate gear. |
| 16:25.26 | Xinhuan | mine's still stuck on brut too :( |
| 16:25.37 | mykx | we luckily completed our first glaive set the week we started brut |
| 16:25.41 | AckisWork | laughs at sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:25.47 | mykx | recently its just been healing issues on brut, dps is fine :\ |
| 16:25.50 | iKON | Is there a way to get a damage report, in Recount, for specific mobs\targets in a boss fight? e.g. See all the people that attacked a totem or See who helped kill a specific add |
| 16:25.58 | elite3vil | little of both for us Mykx =\ |
| 16:26.18 | elite3vil | lol@us. We had a rogue with a glaive set for three weeks w/o 4/8 t6 |
| 16:26.29 | mykx | lol |
| 16:26.30 | Elsia | iKON: tried reporting from the detail view? |
| 16:26.44 | elite3vil | We finally just gave him bracers last night off Kalecgos (God, I hate that fight) |
| 16:27.00 | mykx | 5 days ago we 3 shot brut and had our instance reset a couple of days later randomly so we go to redo brut and wipe on him all night due to crappy healing :\ |
| 16:27.04 | Hjalte | iKON: Select Damage Taken, enable viewing of mobs and unknown targets and then select the mob, that you want to see how many people damaged. |
| 16:27.14 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72088 10LibDataBroker-1.0/MO_ItemValue/: |
| 16:27.14 | CIA-40 | MO_ItemValue: |
| 16:27.14 | CIA-40 | - Add externals |
| 16:27.38 | elite3vil | Yeah, we just lost 3 of our best-geared healers... it didn't help. |
| 16:27.47 | mykx | ouch that sucks |
| 16:27.55 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72089 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DO_Durability/ (. DO_Durability.toc): |
| 16:27.56 | CIA-40 | DO_Durability: |
| 16:27.56 | CIA-40 | - Add externals, fix toc |
| 16:28.18 | elite3vil | I'm supposed to be ret for that fight, but had to be holy 'cause we were short... hurt our dps quite a bit 'cause of the lack of judgements |
| 16:28.23 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72090 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DODisp_ArmorChatSpam/: |
| 16:28.23 | CIA-40 | DODisp_ArmorChatSpam: |
| 16:28.23 | CIA-40 | - - Add externals |
| 16:28.28 | mykx | just gotta keep farming bt/hyjal elite3vil though felmyst isnt as demanding as brut |
| 16:28.37 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
| 16:28.46 | iKON | elsia: You mean the detail view of one of the raiders? |
| 16:28.48 | mykx | got my t6 boots last night :) |
| 16:28.50 | elite3vil | BT tonight. Hyjal tomorrow. |
| 16:28.57 | mykx | yeah probably gonna be doing the same |
| 16:29.00 | elite3vil | I hate Hyjal nights, they're so boring. |
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| 16:29.11 | mykx | lol I just wish the damn tempest of chaos would drop |
| 16:29.18 | mykx | its the only bt/hyjal upgrade for me :\ |
| 16:29.19 | Elsia | iKON: yeah |
| 16:29.24 | CIA-40 | 03elsia 07Elsia * r72091 10LibDataBroker-1.0/DODisp_ArmoredMan/ (. ArmoredManDisplay.lua): |
| 16:29.24 | CIA-40 | DODisp_ArmoredMan: |
| 16:29.24 | CIA-40 | - Make DO/MO agnostic, will grab first two found and map to presets, works with any armor based MO/DO present now. |
| 16:29.24 | CIA-40 | - Add externals |
| 16:29.25 | iKON | Elsia: Wouldn't that just show that one persons contribution? |
| 16:29.34 | elite3vil | Woooooo, Holy Wrath, Consecrate, Holy Shield, Consecrate, Holy Shield - Repeat |
| 16:29.42 | elite3vil | That's all I do on Hyjal nights. |
| 16:29.44 | elite3vil | =P |
| 16:29.48 | mykx | haha |
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| 16:30.03 | Elsia | iKON: depends, damage taken will show all who damaged a target, so if you pick the totem you get what you wanted |
| 16:30.31 | EvilJohn | I think everyone but the healers get into a simple spell routine in hyjal |
| 16:30.31 | mykx | our protadin was having brain farts on felmyst last night... leaving salv on and not putting on righteous fury etc |
| 16:30.49 | elite3vil | The update to PallyPower that added Righteous fury to the top of the blessings was *really* helpful. |
| 16:30.58 | iKON | thx Elsia and Hjalte |
| 16:31.07 | elite3vil | and I use an addon to remove salv from myself when I'm tanking |
| 16:31.19 | elite3vil | (sucks when I go ret and forget to remove it, but whatever) |
| 16:31.27 | mykx | lol |
| 16:31.39 | elite3vil | screen flashing red usually is a good reminder. |
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| 16:31.45 | mykx | I'm curious, how much dps do you do on brut? please be honest as I'm trying to compare our ret pally |
| 16:32.02 | mykx | I'm thinking his ~1200 is pretty damn low |
| 16:32.16 | elite3vil | Yeah, we should be able to pull about 1750 easy |
| 16:32.27 | elite3vil | I'm right around 1675 without lust/drums/pots |
| 16:32.40 | mykx | hrm yeah I guess he's just not very good then lol |
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| 16:32.50 | Gagorian | our did 1900 dps on brut |
| 16:32.53 | elite3vil | Yeah |
| 16:33.04 | mykx | retadins can do that much ? wow :\ |
| 16:33.15 | elite3vil | It's doable with the gear... I'm just last on dkp, and have to roll offspec on all the ret gear I want |
| 16:33.26 | mykx | could you post said paladins armory page please Gagorian |
| 16:33.45 | mykx | elite3vil: yeah its a bit easier now though with 3 tokens from every boss |
| 16:33.51 | elite3vil | my dps should go up when the faire comes around though, just bought the Darkmoon - Crusade card. |
| 16:34.25 | Gagorian | mykx: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Al%27Akir&n=Scorpion |
| 16:34.43 | elite3vil | It's also helpful that we only have one dps warrior, so plate dps gear isn't that hard to come by.. it's the trinkets/rings/necks/cloaks that I'm fighting over. |
| 16:34.58 | mykx | ah damn he's holy there |
| 16:35.00 | Gagorian | mykx: Oh that's not going to do much good |
| 16:35.02 | Gagorian | Yeah :< |
| 16:35.26 | elite3vil | interesting spec... lol |
| 16:35.37 | Gagorian | Anyone have any idea why Routes would disappear from minimap after relogging? |
| 16:35.41 | elite3vil | Imp LoH, no aura mastery. |
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| 16:36.38 | elite3vil | but yeah, 1200 dps from a retadin is pretty poor. |
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| 16:38.54 | Xinhuan | dunno |
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| 16:41.43 | Apoco | whats faster? string.find(msg, x) or msg:find(x) |
| 16:42.39 | Xinhuan | latter |
| 16:43.23 | Apoco | thats what I was thinking |
| 16:43.24 | Apoco | ty |
| 16:43.33 | AckisWork | why? |
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| 16:44.04 | Apoco | why not? |
| 16:44.26 | Apoco | msg:find is faster to type than string.find and if its faster than string.find why use string.find |
| 16:44.28 | CIA-40 | 03Krevlorn * r72092 10FuBar_HonorFuPlus/ (. FuBar_HonorFuPlus.toc embeds.xml): FuBar_HonorFuPlus: attempt to fix libraries loading without externals |
| 16:45.00 | AckisWork | i'm just wondering why is it faster.... |
| 16:45.21 | Zhinjio | someone have that MagicMarker video link somewhere handy? |
| 16:45.26 | Apoco | oh |
| 16:45.28 | Apoco | no idea |
| 16:45.41 | Apoco | just like match is faster than gsub |
| 16:45.42 | Apoco | ~_~ |
| 16:45.43 | purl | :/ |
| 16:45.54 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:46.38 | ag` | ~lart fisker |
| 16:46.38 | purl | moos at fisker |
| 16:46.49 | Apoco | ~lart purl |
| 16:46.49 | purl | takes apoco to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 16:46.56 | Apoco | :( |
| 16:47.14 | AckisWork | purl is smrt |
| 16:47.19 | Apoco | I guess |
| 16:47.36 | ag` | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:47.36 | purl | urinates on sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:47.44 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 16:47.54 | ag` | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:47.54 | purl | frags sag_ich_nicht with his BFG9000 |
| 16:48.08 | ag` | wut |
| 16:48.18 | AckisWork | Is there anyway to performance measure code when it's run? ie: see which functions take the most time, etc? |
| 16:48.55 | ag` | AckisWork: GetTime or something in the start and end of a function |
| 16:48.59 | sag_ich_nicht | what |
| 16:49.03 | sag_ich_nicht | why you larting me |
| 16:49.15 | ag` | the question is rather |
| 16:49.16 | ag` | why |
| 16:49.17 | ag` | not |
| 16:49.26 | ag` | ~lart sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:49.26 | purl | tries to shut sag_ich_nicht up |
| 16:49.35 | ag` | :D |
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| 16:49.57 | Sinaloit | AckisWork: theres an addon on curseforge for that no idea if it works well |
| 16:50.12 | Sinaloit | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/fprof/ |
| 16:50.44 | AckisWork | just saw it |
| 16:51.03 | AckisWork | do you notice a bit of lag when you click the scan button? |
| 16:51.44 | Zhinjio | Zeksie: ping |
| 16:51.57 | CIA-40 | 03Sorata * r72093 10Poppins/ (Frames.lua Poppins.lua): |
| 16:51.57 | CIA-40 | Poppins: |
| 16:51.57 | CIA-40 | - Fix ButtonFacade support |
| 16:52.40 | sag_ich_nicht | ~mute ag` |
| 16:52.41 | purl | ACTION seals ag`'s mouth and says, 'What good is IRC if you are unable to speak?' |
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| 16:54.14 | Snago | lol, just tried running my .lua file through pdflatex instead of luac. That didn't work out so well :P |
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| 16:54.44 | Apoco | ~luac |
| 16:54.49 | Apoco | >_> |
| 16:55.13 | CIA-40 | 03snago * r72094 10IHML/IHML.lua: |
| 16:55.13 | CIA-40 | IHML: |
| 16:55.13 | CIA-40 | - Hide "Make Macro" button if the macro exist and hide "Pickup Macro" button if the macro don't exist. |
| 16:56.03 | Primer | Snago: is there an "in arena" macro? |
| 16:56.22 | Primer | and "in bg"? |
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| 16:56.35 | Xinhuan | no |
| 16:56.49 | Snago | Primer: yes, make a macro named "arena" or "pvp" |
| 16:56.49 | Apoco | lol |
| 16:56.49 | Xinhuan | explicitly declined ;p |
| 16:56.53 | Primer | nice |
| 16:57.03 | Snago | notice it's case sensitive |
| 16:57.05 | Primer | awesome job with IHML btw |
| 16:57.11 | Apoco | IHML? |
| 16:57.12 | Snago | thanks :) |
| 16:57.15 | Snago | ~IHML |
| 16:57.16 | purl | I Have Macro Lol! An addon to automagically switch a macro depending on zone or BigWigs boss module. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/IHML |
| 16:57.16 | Apoco | Ihatemacroslol? |
| 16:57.25 | Apoco | oo |
| 16:57.28 | AckisWork | ~ARL |
| 16:57.31 | AckisWork | ahhh |
| 16:57.41 | Primer | it still has some quirks though |
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| 16:57.59 | Primer | last time it wanted to do netherwing quests I didn't have (too low rep) |
| 16:58.07 | Primer | when I wanted it to do the tainted meat thing |
| 16:58.15 | Primer | it wanted to do booterang |
| 16:59.17 | Snago | Yes, I haven't figured out a good way to integrate both the booterang and the taited meat in the same macro (since they're done in the same zones) |
| 16:59.31 | AckisWork | this looks pretty cool: http://static.curseforge.net/uploads/19/0/6/screen.png gonna have to try that out tonight when I get home |
| 17:00.00 | Snago | tbh I havn't bothered to think about very much since both my 70'ies were exalted long before the creation of IHML |
| 17:00.02 | Apoco | AckisWork: what is that? |
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| 17:00.19 | Primer | I still have a 70 that's not, and just now went back to give it a go |
| 17:00.24 | AckisWork | Apoco: FunctionProfiler on curseforge, sinaloit mentioned it to me |
| 17:00.26 | Primer | holy priest though, discouraging |
| 17:00.29 | Apoco | hmm |
| 17:00.30 | Docnsane | how about if you are flying use the booterang, and if you are not use the meat? |
| 17:00.33 | Apoco | will try it when servers come up. |
| 17:00.44 | AckisWork | do you use ARL? |
| 17:00.57 | Hjalte_ | wonders if he is still called Hjalte |
| 17:01.00 | Hjalte_ | meh |
| 17:01.10 | Hjalte_ | How do I change my name? |
| 17:01.25 | Snago | Docnsane: That would probably work |
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| 17:01.35 | Snago | ./nick Hjalte |
| 17:01.57 | Docnsane | technicaly you can use the booterang on the ground, but odds are you aren't going to |
| 17:02.15 | Snago | true |
| 17:02.16 | elite3vil | AckisWork: <3 ARL. I'm as OCD about my professions as you are about your reputations. =P |
| 17:02.57 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:02.58 | AckisWork | thanks |
| 17:03.23 | Primer | I was able to get my netherdrake in exactly 1 week of solid grinding on my lock, from the time I did the quest that makes you friendly |
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| 17:03.45 | Primer | many eggs :) |
| 17:04.03 | Docnsane | where should i file a bug report about chatter? couldn't find a project in jira. it has to do with the fact that for some reason, every time i log in chatter keeps putting in a default "tooltip" border around my chat windows, despite borders being unchecked in config (recheck and clear removes border) |
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| 17:04.57 | elite3vil | Annoying that I have to wait til the next patch for the blue versions of the new haste gems. |
| 17:08.12 | AckisWork | ok lets see if this works rofl |
| 17:08.13 | AckisWork | ~arl |
| 17:08.22 | AckisWork | fails |
| 17:08.26 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 17:09.03 | Nandini | poor ackis, purl is giving you the cold shoulder :( |
| 17:09.10 | elite3vil | Have to type it out on the wiki too. |
| 17:09.19 | CIA-40 | 03arcanefoam * r72095 10DHUD2/ (bars.lua core.lua layout.lua): |
| 17:09.19 | CIA-40 | DHUD2: |
| 17:09.19 | CIA-40 | -Target cast bar should be working |
| 17:09.19 | CIA-40 | -Minor bug fixes |
| 17:09.19 | CIA-40 | -Debugging disabled by default |
| 17:09.20 | AckisWork | it's supposed to :( |
| 17:09.24 | elite3vil | ~AckisRecipeList |
| 17:09.25 | AckisWork | but it's ignoring me |
| 17:09.28 | AckisWork | purl hates me |
| 17:09.29 | purl | yes. |
| 17:09.31 | AckisWork | :o |
| 17:09.45 | Nandini | does purl even know you? |
| 17:09.46 | Peoii | elite3vil: More sad thing is that by the time we get those, our server will likely have the epic gem vendor :/ Though I guess ti'll give me something to spend my badges on finally :P |
| 17:09.52 | Nandini | ~ackis |
| 17:09.57 | elite3vil | Yeah, I'm with you on that one. |
| 17:10.05 | elite3vil | 365 badges and nothing to spend them on.. wheee. |
| 17:10.08 | Peoii | haha |
| 17:10.17 | Peoii | Yea, I've got 587 sitting in the bank rotting. |
| 17:10.27 | elite3vil | I keep finding some random thing to keep me under 400 |
| 17:10.29 | Peoii | And I sold prolly 300 worth of vortex's the day that patch launched. |
| 17:10.33 | Primer | and here I am still running kara for badges |
| 17:10.37 | elite3vil | random people wanting vortices and whatnot |
| 17:10.57 | elite3vil | Primer: Sad thing is, I run Kara every weekend, and I haven't really figured out why yet. |
| 17:11.00 | Nandini | if you could buy sunmotes with badges, that would pick up some interest :) |
| 17:11.01 | Peoii | oh well, it'll let me regem some of my gear. |
| 17:11.19 | elite3vil | Yeah, I'm probably going to regem most of mine from 11heal2mp5 to 22 healing |
| 17:11.23 | Peoii | Nandini: No doubt, especially considering the god awful drop rate of some of the stuff in there. |
| 17:11.34 | Peoii | Yea, I'm gonna be buying a lot of pyrestones for haste/dmg |
| 17:11.48 | Primer | I'm still shooting for the healing mace...need about 90 badges |
| 17:11.58 | Peoii | hehe |
| 17:12.01 | elite3vil | I'll be buying a lot of +10 str for my ret set too, to replace .. uh.. +6 str mostly. rofl. |
| 17:12.05 | Peoii | That mace is soooo bloody ugly. |
| 17:12.09 | AckisWork | Hmm maybe purl needs definitions approved before it puts links into them? |
| 17:12.16 | Primer | and the spell damage dagger for my lock...need 80 there |
| 17:12.24 | Primer | I just don't run many instances |
| 17:12.31 | elite3vil | 21k gold and I'm using green gems in my BT/Hyjal loot for my ret set.. and I'm a jc. |
| 17:12.38 | elite3vil | figure that one out. lol. |
| 17:12.40 | Peoii | pro :) |
| 17:13.02 | Primer | what do you do with that much gold? |
| 17:13.10 | Peoii | I power leveled JC exlusively for the Sunwell neck, and has ANYONE on our server seen the bloody pattern drop? Hell no. |
| 17:13.11 | Primer | do you have 20 slot bags for all your bank slots? |
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| 17:13.20 | elite3vil | lol, no. |
| 17:13.24 | Primer | why not? |
| 17:13.31 | elite3vil | Why would I need that much space? |
| 17:13.39 | elite3vil | I've got my own gbank for non-bop stuff. |
| 17:13.39 | Peoii | exactly... |
| 17:13.42 | Primer | why does a dog lick its nuts? |
| 17:14.07 | Primer | heh, I have a 20 slot bag as a bank slot :) |
| 17:14.08 | elite3vil | Peoii: I powerleveled BS for the chest/gloves, but haven't seen either pattern |
| 17:14.20 | elite3vil | none of the JC stuff either. |
| 17:14.22 | Primer | just one though...on each of my 70s |
| 17:14.30 | Peoii | elite3vil: We got the chest pattern, and afiak, we sold it... none of our pallies are JCs. |
| 17:14.36 | Peoii | err, BS.. whatever. |
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| 17:14.44 | Primer | mainly because I crafted 20 slot bags for them, and had 20 slot bags drop since |
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| 17:15.02 | elite3vil | Yeah, the other guild on my server that's Horde side sold the chest pattern too. |
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| 17:15.12 | Peoii | It's weird though |
| 17:15.14 | elite3vil | after I was talking to them about it and they wanted 10 sunmotes for the pattern |
| 17:15.21 | Peoii | We've gotten the JC melee dps ring. |
| 17:15.32 | elite3vil | they sold it to some scrub that barely runs BT/Hyjal for 5k gold. |
| 17:15.49 | Peoii | Which not even AL has gotten... kinda crazy. (Course, AL has only gotten 1 of the smelting books afiak... and we're rotting them) |
| 17:16.05 | elite3vil | Yeah, we've got a ton of smelting books. |
| 17:16.07 | KriLL3 | is there a site/tool/addon that lets you display your gear like the armory does, but you can pick more than one set of gear? |
| 17:16.17 | haste | warcrafter.net? |
| 17:16.34 | elite3vil | We gave one of our spriests the healing wand off trash last night 'cause none of our healing priests were on. =\ |
| 17:16.59 | elite3vil | Stupid hunters wouldn't let me take the Shivering Felspine for my ret set. =\ |
| 17:17.01 | AckisWork | I want that want =/ |
| 17:17.13 | elite3vil | He got the dmg wand soon afterwards =P |
| 17:17.18 | Peoii | All of our hunters have the felspine, and all of our holy priests have the wand... |
| 17:17.29 | Peoii | Havn't gotten another though to see where it goes. |
| 17:17.32 | AckisWork | haven't seen the wand drop :( |
| 17:17.38 | elite3vil | That's our second of each wand. |
| 17:17.42 | Peoii | We've only seen 1 dps wand. |
| 17:17.44 | AckisWork | we've had low trash drops |
| 17:18.07 | elite3vil | Yeah, Trash drops have been terrible |
| 17:18.27 | Peoii | aye |
| 17:18.37 | elite3vil | then again, we've been running BT and Hyjal since October, and we've only had three of the healing cloaks drop =P |
| 17:18.38 | Peoii | we're gonna be out of sunmotes before we get the spelldmg ring recipe :/ |
| 17:18.48 | Peoii | oh wow. |
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| 17:18.59 | elite3vil | and two were on last week's run. |
| 17:19.17 | Peoii | so I have to ask, do you guys get triple conq much? :P |
| 17:19.21 | Peoii | on illidan... |
| 17:19.50 | elite3vil | We've gotten triple x2 |
| 17:20.15 | Peoii | I kid you not, every spriest has 2 T6 chests... every paladin has ret/prot/holy.... every warlock has it... we're giving it to apps as a freebie. |
| 17:20.23 | elite3vil | The only t6 chest I'm missing is ret |
| 17:20.37 | Peoii | Yet we've seen a grand total of 2 Vanq chests. |
| 17:20.43 | elite3vil | pfft |
| 17:20.45 | Peoii | fortunately I got mine... but holy crap... |
| 17:20.47 | elite3vil | vanq drops more than conq |
| 17:20.48 | AvitusLC | How many glaives? |
| 17:20.54 | elite3vil | we've got a pair |
| 17:20.58 | NivFreak | Peoii: RNG ftl |
| 17:21.00 | Peoii | We've got 1 pair of glaives, and an offhand I think? |
| 17:21.04 | AvitusLC | <-- 7 months of farming, 1 glaive. |
| 17:21.19 | Peoii | NivFreak: Qua? |
| 17:21.23 | AvitusLC | Don't complain about the RNG please :P |
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| 17:21.45 | CIA-40 | 03snago * r72096 10IHML/locales/ (6 files): |
| 17:21.45 | CIA-40 | IHML: |
| 17:21.45 | CIA-40 | - Now using Yarzill's Mutton when not flying on Netherwing Ledge. |
| 17:22.07 | NivFreak | complaining about loot drops is complaining about the RNG |
| 17:22.07 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 17:22.41 | Snago | Primer: More quirks now? |
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| 17:23.02 | Primer | Snago: I'll let you know |
| 17:23.02 | Peoii | oh fair enough :) |
| 17:23.03 | Primer | :) |
| 17:23.04 | NivFreak | We see lots of triple token drops in t5 |
| 17:23.04 | elite3vil | we're the only guild on the server with a pair of glaives on one person... the other Horde guild has a pair, but the person who got the first one wasn't there when the MH dropped. lol. |
| 17:23.20 | Snago | Primer: Please do :) |
| 17:23.34 | Peoii | NivFreak: Though, I'm starting to believe in the concept of a loot seed... |
| 17:24.00 | Peoii | NivFreak: A priest of ours who never starts the raid forms it 2 weeks in a row... both weeks? A warglaive and triple conq. |
| 17:24.06 | Matrix110 | well Blizzard said already the loot generation is based on the time you enter:P |
| 17:24.20 | Matrix110 | and which person does it |
| 17:24.58 | Matrix110 | but the loot generation algorythm sucks :P |
| 17:25.08 | Primer | The turning point in the trial came when Reiser took the stand in his own defense March 3.' Whether he really did it or not, Hans basically just didn't know when to shut up." |
| 17:25.11 | Primer | oops, wrong channel |
| 17:25.35 | CIA-40 | 03funkydude * r72097 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: added to blacklist |
| 17:26.22 | elite3vil | I definitely miss playing my mage when I'm ret though, melee have to move around so much... =P |
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| 17:28.24 | AckisWork | lol I was like "cool arl made 40k downloads on curse" then I noticed questhelper gets 10k a day and frowned irl |
| 17:28.33 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 17:28.40 | elite3vil | who uses Curse? |
| 17:28.46 | elite3vil | WAU = win |
| 17:28.47 | Primer | n00bs |
| 17:29.01 | Nandini | the unclean masses use curse |
| 17:29.14 | Primer | curse is still slow as fuck |
| 17:29.28 | AckisWork | it'd be nice to see download stats from files.wowace.com |
| 17:29.29 | hydrogen | people who have better things to do than waste their time on windows |
| 17:29.51 | elite3vil | I think the only non-ACE addon I use is DBM |
| 17:30.27 | AckisWork | questhelper, omnicc, orgi'lazy, piratespeak, chuck norris facts, atlas, etc |
| 17:30.38 | elite3vil | Hydrogen: I believe there's a Mac version out there too, MAU or something. |
| 17:30.51 | Nandini | i use several addons not hosted on wowace, i use omnicc, clique, and a couple others |
| 17:30.55 | Primer | jwowupdater |
| 17:30.57 | Primer | > * |
| 17:30.58 | kenlyric | is a new JWU convert |
| 17:31.21 | kenlyric | except I like being able to look at the fish changelog from within wau |
| 17:31.26 | AckisWork | I've tried 3rd party updaters but never had success with them... I've heard a lot of good things about JWU |
| 17:31.37 | Nandini | jwu meets my needs |
| 17:31.44 | kenlyric | the only really clunky thing is removing 3rd party mods |
| 17:31.50 | kenlyric | because there's no delete option |
| 17:31.58 | kenlyric | you just have to blank all the fields |
| 17:32.01 | Primer | for me jwow Just Works™ |
| 17:32.12 | Primer | whereas WAU was crashing the .net runtime all the time |
| 17:32.16 | hydrogen | elite3vil: doesn't help me.. |
| 17:32.18 | hydrogen | uses jwu |
| 17:32.40 | Nandini | jWow = sounds like an old microsoft slogan "just works on windows" heheh |
| 17:32.46 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:32.47 | Xinhuan | i wonder how many downloads Routes and GatherMate has |
| 17:32.47 | iKON | what's the JWU URL? |
| 17:32.49 | Primer | which says more about the .net runtime than WAU, of course |
| 17:32.51 | Primer | but still |
| 17:32.51 | Kulaar | just discovered http://www.wowmatrix.com/. someone testet it? |
| 17:33.08 | Nandini | ~jwu |
| 17:33.08 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 17:33.22 | Xinhuan | NetherPanel looked pretty cool |
| 17:33.25 | Primer | heh, they have a "Linux version" |
| 17:33.31 | NivFreak | jwu == win |
| 17:33.36 | Primer | in tar.gz no less |
| 17:34.47 | kenlyric | Nandini: PLAYS FOR SURE (but not for long) |
| 17:35.10 | CIA-40 | 03Barov * r72098 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2/Babble-Tradeskill-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Tradeskill: frFR updated |
| 17:35.46 | CIA-40 | 03nebelmond * r72099 10OptiTaunt/ (6 files): |
| 17:35.46 | CIA-40 | OptiTaunt: |
| 17:35.46 | CIA-40 | - added turning on/off resist, immune and ability messages globally |
| 17:39.11 | NivFreak | optitaunt eh |
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| 17:39.59 | AckisWork | nooooooo @ babble 2.2 :( DIE DIE DIE |
| 17:42.11 | CIA-40 | 03kagaro 07kagaro * r72100 10BigWigs_Cinematographer/Cinematographer.lua: BigWigs_Cinematographer: DRYCODE checkin |
| 17:42.11 | elite3vil | I'm assuming babble is bad somehow? =P |
| 17:42.31 | Fisker- | Chompers! |
| 17:43.54 | CIA-40 | 03pettigrow * r72101 10IHML/ (IHML.toc locales/locale-frFR.lua): IHML: frFR Update |
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| 17:45.53 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 17:45.55 | Chompers | what |
| 17:46.02 | Xinhuan | elite3vil, its not "bad" |
| 17:46.08 | Fisker- | we're wiping on gorefiend again! |
| 17:46.08 | Fisker- | wee |
| 17:46.11 | AckisWork | Babble-2.2 needs to die a horrible death |
| 17:46.17 | Xinhuan | its just that people tend to include the entirety of it when they only need a small portion of it |
| 17:46.19 | Chompers | :< |
| 17:46.20 | Xinhuan | which is wasteful |
| 17:46.42 | Chompers | we were going to go to bloodboil, but people gave excuses for not signing up |
| 17:46.45 | Chompers | so cancelled |
| 17:46.49 | Xinhuan | for example, if all you need is a couple of translations in every language, manually copy those out, instead of including the entire library |
| 17:46.51 | Nandini | babble will only die when people stop using addons that use it, or authors modernize those addons, just like any other library |
| 17:47.12 | AckisWork | or when someone with op does a svn delete? |
| 17:47.50 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 17:47.59 | Xinhuan | p.s. svn delete is reversible |
| 17:48.27 | AckisWork | i know but I'd be happy for a day or so :P |
| 17:48.35 | elite3vil | So what you're saying is, by including the whole thing they're making the code a bit more bloated than it has to be. =P |
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| 17:48.42 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 17:48.52 | Nandini | "a bit more bloated" is something of an understatement in this case :) |
| 17:48.52 | AckisWork | By me converting to 2.4 SpellIDs I saved 400-500kb of memory with ARL |
| 17:48.55 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 17:49.23 | Xinhuan | it depends on situation, something like BabbleClass is quite commonly used, contains just the 9 classes and their translations |
| 17:49.27 | Nandini | however, there's nothing horribly bad with how Babble-2.2 works, it's just outdated |
| 17:49.35 | elite3vil | I haven't coded anything since High School.. but I at least have the concepts still down. *shrug* |
| 17:50.25 | AckisWork | there are uses for babble, but update mods to use the new functions/libraries =/ |
| 17:50.34 | AckisWork | that 2.2-tradeskill update shouldn't have occured |
| 17:50.42 | Nandini | Xinhuan: and although that's something a large number of addons might use, it's such a small set that it is straightforward and not horribly inefficient to maintain in your own code |
| 17:51.00 | Xinhuan | that is correct too, its only 9 strings x 8 languages! |
| 17:51.15 | Xinhuan | but opinions differ |
| 17:51.32 | Xinhuan | some people will say if 10 addons share this table of 9 strings, its good |
| 17:51.41 | Snago | BigWigs_Cinematographer? |
| 17:51.46 | Xinhuan | and that updating this one library updates all 10 addons |
| 17:51.52 | Xinhuan | say with a new class - Death Knight |
| 17:52.01 | Xinhuan | there's good/bad |
| 17:52.12 | AckisWork | adds Death Knight to Babble-Class-3.0 |
| 17:52.12 | Nandini | AckisWork: apparently french player is still using an addon that relies on B-TS-2.2, so it's a good thing B-TS-2.2 was updated |
| 17:52.39 | Nandini | Xinhuan: that's all well and good, as long as the addons that use that library are prepared for changes such as the addition of a new class |
| 17:52.59 | Nandini | chances are, they utilize the addon somewhere with some assumptions still that there are only 9 classes :P |
| 17:54.02 | Xinhuan | dknight will be the first class name that has 2 words in it |
| 17:54.07 | AckisWork | Nandini: Last I looked there weren't any add-ons using BTS anymore, I could be wrong however |
| 17:54.16 | Xinhuan | which itself will be tricky |
| 17:54.52 | Nandini | perhaps by the time WotLK is out, blizzard will have implemented some of this functionality in their own APIs |
| 17:55.01 | Nandini | since they may have to deal with similar problems :) |
| 17:55.14 | Nandini | (Babble-Class data, that is) |
| 17:55.39 | CIA-40 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72102 10RBM/RBM_Sunwell/ (EredarTwins.lua locales/enUS.lua): RBM_Sunwell: Updated. |
| 17:55.53 | AckisWork | you can get localized and english versions of class right now... works for some situations, not all tho |
| 17:56.21 | CIA-40 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72103 10RBM/RBM_DrumWatch/DrumWatch.lua: RBM_DrumWatch: New Options (Untested) |
| 17:56.23 | Nandini | yes, in particular, it doesn't work for declined variations of class names afaik |
| 17:57.18 | CIA-40 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72104 10RBM/RBM_BlackTemple/ (Council.lua Illidan.lua RBM_BlackTemple.toc Supremus.lua): RBM_BlackTemple: BugFixes for Illidan, Council, Supremus. |
| 17:57.25 | AckisWork | yah I'm not sure of where it would/wouldn't work... my research was "tekkub says your dumb, ackis looks into it, ackis realizes that yes indeed he is dumb, ackis updates mod" |
| 17:57.27 | Nandini | it was pretty valiant of blizz to incorporate that for languages that need it tho |
| 17:58.21 | Tekkub | yes, Ackis is dumb |
| 17:58.24 | Tekkub | why now? |
| 17:58.29 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:58.39 | Nandini | apparently the russian client will allow players to enter their name in multiple declensions on character creation (possibly also when naming pets) |
| 17:58.40 | AckisWork | this was based from a post you made about UnitClass |
| 17:59.08 | Xinhuan | wtf is multiple declensions |
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| 17:59.30 | Nandini | allowing such possibility as "Nandini, Nandini's, to Nandini, for Nandini, about Nandini" etc. |
| 18:00.13 | Nandini | since "Nandini's" in russian isn't as simple as adding 's to the end of a name |
| 18:00.53 | Xinhuan | oh god, i have to cater for such things in my addons too? |
| 18:01.10 | Zhinjio | declension is also used to refer to assigning or using the gender specificity in nouns |
| 18:01.13 | Nandini | there are already APIs for getting the number of declensions on a name and iterating through them |
| 18:01.19 | Zhinjio | but I'm not sure thats what they meant here |
| 18:01.40 | Zhinjio | His, her, their, those, them, etc. |
| 18:02.10 | Zhinjio | doesn't russian have like 7 declensions for gender? |
| 18:02.12 | Nandini | yes, it works for pronouns too :) english has very few declined nouns/pronouns, but "his/her" is a good example |
| 18:02.22 | Zhinjio | I remember it being vastly more complex than most languages |
| 18:02.37 | Nandini | Zhinjio: combinations of gender, objectification, possession, etc. |
| 18:02.44 | Zhinjio | nods. right. |
| 18:02.52 | Fisker- | omg Chompers |
| 18:02.56 | Fisker- | i've never healed so much in my life :( |
| 18:03.14 | Fisker- | people still failed but we healed through it |
| 18:03.31 | Zhinjio | one of my best friends in college had a russian sentence written on his dorm door |
| 18:03.37 | Chompers | poor Fisker- |
| 18:03.44 | Chompers | hope something good drops |
| 18:03.46 | Zhinjio | at the end of the semester, I finally asked him what it siad |
| 18:03.47 | Fisker- | poor me indeed |
| 18:03.48 | Nandini | US battlegroups are starting to come back up now after maintenance |
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| 18:03.52 | Fisker- | nothing good for palas anyways |
| 18:03.52 | elite3vil | Yay. |
| 18:03.54 | Zhinjio | he replied: "Put your arm in my mailman". |
| 18:04.06 | Nandini | Zhinjio: that sounds kinky |
| 18:04.11 | Zhinjio | no kidding. |
| 18:04.21 | Zhinjio | I have no idea why it was so funny at the time. |
| 18:04.25 | Zhinjio | but I probably will never forget it. |
| 18:04.28 | kadrahil | http://www.addictinggames.com/theworldshardestgame.html |
| 18:04.39 | Fisker- | not hard |
| 18:04.45 | Nandini | when i was an exchange student in the former east germany in HS (yes, i'm old), my class was in 7th year russian and 1st year english. heheh |
| 18:04.48 | kadrahil | i cant beat level 4 |
| 18:04.52 | kadrahil | am i bad |
| 18:04.55 | stew_a | b=var:gmatch(pattern) returns a function that each time called returns captures, does anyone know if it reevaluates that pattern every call to b or does it just return captures that matched the pattern in the original gmatch call? |
| 18:05.14 | kadrahil | whoa i beat it |
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| 18:06.34 | Nandini | stew_a: b becomes a new string and doesn't update unless you set it to var:gmatch(pattern) again |
| 18:07.13 | Evandiann | in gathermate, is there an option or a way to set it, so that if i delete a node and update it with the database that the deleted node won't be put back up and i have to delete it again? |
| 18:07.42 | Nandini | Evandiann: the node will always come back |
| 18:07.58 | Nandini | (unless it could be merged with another "real" node nearby) |
| 18:08.13 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 18:08.33 | Xinhuan | its somewhat annoying that the wowhead database is "polluted" with fake nodes |
| 18:08.38 | Nandini | GatherMate_Data includes all the errant data wowhead users have contributed |
| 18:08.57 | Hjalte | Are all EU servers lagging like crap? |
| 18:08.59 | Evandiann | the reason i am asking is that wowhead has some nodes marked for sones in outlands that r either in another zone or unreachable even with a flying mount |
| 18:09.01 | Zhinjio | us realms coming up |
| 18:09.29 | Xinhuan | there honestly isn't much we can do about it, short of marking every such node one by one by hand |
| 18:09.39 | CIA-40 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72105 10RBM/RBM/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 18:09.39 | CIA-40 | RBM: |
| 18:09.39 | CIA-40 | -Jira: [RBM-7], [RBM-8], [RBM-13], [RBM-14], [RBM-18], [RBM-3], [RBM-5], [RBM-9], [RBM-10], [RBM-15], [RBM-16], [RBM-22], [RBM-6], [RBM-19] |
| 18:09.40 | Nandini | Evandiann: this is a messy solution, but will solve most of your problems. install cartographer and cartographer_(profession) and cartographer_data |
| 18:09.46 | Nandini | then install GatherMate_CartImport |
| 18:10.16 | Xinhuan | cartographer_data is the same wowhead data |
| 18:10.17 | Nandini | import the cartographer data (which has been hand edited to remove errant nodes) to gathermate, then disable (or delete) cartographer_data and _(profession) |
| 18:10.33 | Xinhuan | except that its last update was months ago, when the wowhead db wasn't as polluted with invalid nodes |
| 18:10.51 | Cheads | yeah tons of bad nodes there now =( |
| 18:10.58 | Nandini | someone also edited cartographer_data, unless the nodes just ended up there out of order accidentally |
| 18:11.18 | Nandini | by looking at the data file, it appeared to me that it had been hand-edited by someone |
| 18:11.47 | Xinhuan | considering there's thousands of nodes |
| 18:11.51 | Xinhuan | that's highly unlikely |
| 18:12.02 | Vulcanus | ...take that line and put it here... |
| 18:12.20 | Xinhuan | in any case, taboo regions in routes takes care of all that |
| 18:12.21 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 18:12.34 | Evandiann | it took me about an hour to delete the invalid mines, herbs & treasure in game. must have taken forever to delete them in the code |
| 18:12.44 | kagaro | part of the reson for bad nodes in wowhead, is thier client detection |
| 18:12.56 | Nandini | or just take GatherMate_Data as it is now, delete the nodes you don't want, and never import again |
| 18:13.15 | Evandiann | that's what i did so far |
| 18:13.16 | kagaro | Nandini: I added the freeze you requested, so just freeze it :P |
| 18:13.27 | Nandini | yes i noticed, and that's exactly why i asked for it :) |
| 18:13.29 | Xinhuan | it is highly unlikely that the node locations will change or that blizz will add new nodes |
| 18:13.59 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: they have done it |
| 18:14.01 | Nandini | a few new nodes were added in patch 2.4 (nightmare vine and mana thistle in some flyable only areas) |
| 18:14.01 | NivFreak | several times |
| 18:14.20 | Xinhuan | whats wrong with the wowhead client detection anyway |
| 18:14.20 | NivFreak | they cleared out all the feliron around the dark portal at one point |
| 18:14.31 | Evandiann | and on sunwell isle, which i have nothing marked there yet |
| 18:14.47 | Nandini | Evandiann: sunwell isle is small, explore and mark it yourself (that's what i did) :P\ |
| 18:15.21 | kagaro | Xinhuan: go look at it, you may get band nodes cause you looted the ore form a chest |
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| 18:16.13 | Nandini | kagaro: yes, wowhead's client doesn't seem to bother checking if you're actually mining or gathering herbs when you loot ore or herbs :) |
| 18:16.37 | Xinhuan | what if i received said herb via mailbox |
| 18:16.43 | Xinhuan | i still get the loot messages |
| 18:16.57 | Xinhuan | or via trade |
| 18:17.07 | Nandini | not via loot window though |
| 18:17.29 | Nandini | if i remember correctly, it's looking at when a loot window opens |
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| 18:18.13 | kagaro | most of the time its ok, cause they use spellcast sent and check the target object |
| 18:18.25 | Zhinjio | fucking hell. |
| 18:18.33 | sb | *sigh* |
| 18:18.37 | sb | 600ms latency here |
| 18:18.40 | sb | no brutallus :( |
| 18:19.49 | Zhinjio | I fail at LoD. |
| 18:20.10 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna run dailies and try again after that. |
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| 18:21.34 | AckisWork | anyone know if the next gate is opened? |
| 18:22.43 | Azurewrath | don't know, we're still wiping at Brutallus :( |
| 18:23.22 | AckisWork | you can talk to the guy at the start of sunwell and he'll tell you |
| 18:23.53 | CIA-40 | 03broesel01 * r72106 10Quiet_Npc/ (6 files): |
| 18:23.53 | CIA-40 | Quiet_Npc |
| 18:23.53 | CIA-40 | - Npc's geaddet |
| 18:24.34 | Zeksie | will have to turn that into a mod. wrote a quick script in Omnibus to warn raid members when Kalecgos portals debuff expiring in 10 secs. |
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| 18:25.26 | profalbert | maybe add it as a warning to BigWigs? |
| 18:25.35 | Zeksie | yeh, optional extra for BW maybe |
| 18:25.48 | Xinhuan | Zeksie, such a mod already exists ;p |
| 18:25.56 | Xinhuan | its called KalecgosIcons on curse |
| 18:26.08 | Xinhuan | PMs the ppl and puts icons on their head on 10 secs remaining |
| 18:26.11 | Zeksie | see, i asked in here last nite if ther was such a thing.. but nooo. noone wanted to help me then did they.. :) |
| 18:26.20 | kenlyric | man, chatter bug still there. |
| 18:26.22 | Xinhuan | clearly you didn't ask me when i was online :) |
| 18:26.26 | Zeksie | :) |
| 18:26.37 | elite3vil | wow, that'll be helpful. |
| 18:26.40 | Xinhuan | KalecgosIcons is pretty good, both the PMs and the icons really catches their attention |
| 18:26.47 | Xinhuan | they need to enter the next port |
| 18:26.53 | Xinhuan | and spread out from other ppl with icons |
| 18:27.04 | Xinhuan | ppl without icons and stack on each other within their groups |
| 18:27.12 | Xinhuan | s/and/can/ |
| 18:27.24 | NivFreak | wtb faster update from armory |
| 18:27.30 | elite3vil | my raid leaders are going to start wondering where all the damn icons are coming from. lol |
| 18:27.34 | CIA-40 | 03ananhaid * r72107 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Felmyst.lua: |
| 18:27.34 | CIA-40 | BigWigs: |
| 18:27.34 | CIA-40 | - zhCN Felmyst update. |
| 18:27.52 | Funkeh` | lua> print(string.find(string.lower("<<<OwnYo.cOm>>>"), "owny%S%.c%S+")) |
| 18:27.52 | lua_bot | Funkeh`: 4, 15 |
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| 18:28.22 | Funkeh` | lua> print(string.find(string.lower("<<<OwnYo.cOm>>>"), "owny(%S)%.c(%S+)")) |
| 18:28.23 | lua_bot | Funkeh`: 4, 15, o, om>>> |
| 18:28.49 | Funkeh` | can't be right |
| 18:29.23 | Hjalte | Does anyone remember what the script was for releasing your body when dead? A mate of mine is stuck as dead. |
| 18:29.39 | profalbert | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.41 | ANTRat | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.58 | elite3vil | it's /script |
| 18:30.25 | Hjalte | It seems /run worked too :) |
| 18:30.25 | elite3vil | lol, shows how long it's been since I've used irc... I was wondering why putting two spaces in front of /script wasn't working =\ |
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| 18:30.48 | thelibrarian | ~seen ruldar |
| 18:30.50 | purl | ruldar <i=djthomp@wsip-70-164-67-15.ok.ok.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 297d 3h 18m 37s ago, saying: 'hmn, yeah, that does makes sense, I will look into that'. |
| 18:31.01 | AckisWork | bleh m'uru isn't up |
| 18:31.35 | AckisWork | I wonder if we can get a full sunwell clear done tonight? lol |
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| 18:34.30 | CIA-40 | 03arcanefoam * r72108 10DHUD2/DHUD2_README_EN.txt: |
| 18:34.30 | CIA-40 | DHUD2: |
| 18:34.30 | CIA-40 | - |
| 18:35.36 | hydrogen | nice commit message |
| 18:36.07 | Zhinjio | arcanefoam sounds like some crazy contraceptive. |
| 18:36.52 | elite3vil | Yay. 24% of the alchemy lab. /wrists |
| 18:37.35 | stew_a | string:trim() takes just whitespace off front and back right? |
| 18:37.41 | ckknight | yep |
| 18:37.44 | kagaro | One of you bigwigs guy wana take a quick glance at my module under branches (BigWigs_Cinematographer) and tell me if Im doing anything really stupid in there |
| 18:38.13 | Belazor | Arcanefoam - Magical condoms to ensure a safe and magical trip to the skies of Azeroth and beyond! |
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| 18:38.39 | stew_a | awesome |
| 18:40.26 | Snago | kagaro: What does it do? |
| 18:40.50 | kagaro | starts the mac video recording when a boss fight starts, and stops it when the bos is dead or you wipe |
| 18:40.58 | Snago | aha :) |
| 18:41.03 | profalbert | hmm... somehow the ChatInsert in GrimReaper seems completly broken, or am I the only one? |
| 18:41.11 | Belazor | that's actually kinda awesoem XD |
| 18:41.30 | kagaro | Snago: I forget to hit my keybinding when learning boss fights for psot review |
| 18:41.46 | CIA-40 | 03arcanefoam * r72109 10DHUD2/DHUD2_README_EN.txt: |
| 18:41.46 | CIA-40 | DHUD2: |
| 18:41.46 | CIA-40 | - |
| 18:42.49 | Snago | That arcanefoam guy totally missed the point with commit messages |
| 18:42.57 | Belazor | lmao |
| 18:43.26 | Belazor | lets hope he's the only author of dhud2 |
| 18:43.49 | Xinhuan | tell that to Zeksie profalbert :d |
| 18:43.50 | CIA-40 | 03thelibrarian * r72110 10FuBar_TransporterFu/ (FuBar_TransporterFu.toc TransporterFu.lua libs/): FuBar_TransporterFu: PeriodicTable-3.0 is dead, long live LibPeriodicTable-3.1! |
| 18:44.16 | elite3vil | profalbert: I had the same problem last night |
| 18:44.47 | Vulcanus | paene would slap me with his penor if I pulled something like those commit messages on cryolysis :p |
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| 18:44.51 | Zeksie | doing what? it'll only work if edit box is open. as with any mod using ChatInsert |
| 18:45.10 | elite3vil | That's probably the problem I was having. =P |
| 18:45.14 | profalbert | I had it open in a party, trying to add it to the /p chat |
| 18:45.36 | Zeksie | works for me here.. so :) |
| 18:45.59 | profalbert | I got this when trying to add melee-damage: http://pastey.net/86885 |
| 18:46.10 | Zeksie | ahh. yeah, melee dmg is broke. doh ;) |
| 18:46.34 | Zeksie | seee. if you had opened by saying 'melee dmg gives error' rather than being vague ;) |
| 18:46.59 | profalbert | and for spells: it puts the link in the editbox, but then doesn't show it in the chat |
| 18:47.05 | Peoii | blah |
| 18:47.13 | Peoii | still only 80% on the alch lab :/ |
| 18:47.30 | elite3vil | Peoii: Could be worse, you could be on Draenor-US, we're at 24% |
| 18:47.38 | Zeksie | note that there's 2 ChatInserts. one with Shift click (the combat log line) and ctrl-click i think for spell only. |
| 18:47.51 | profalbert | i tried shift-click |
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| 18:48.03 | Peoii | elite3vil: hehe, I dunno how Cenarius is so high... outside of raid instances we're absolutely dead from about 5:30 - 10:30 server. |
| 18:48.18 | elite3vil | I know why we're so low |
| 18:48.31 | elite3vil | The harbor took like 8 years to build 'cause people stopped doing dailys after the anvil was up |
| 18:48.38 | Peoii | oye |
| 18:48.50 | elite3vil | The statue was up in like 12h though. rofl. |
| 18:48.54 | CIA-40 | 03apoco 07v2 * r72111 10RBM/RBM_DrumWatch/DrumWatch.lua: RBM_DrumWatch: Line 96 error fixed. |
| 18:48.57 | Peoii | we definitely slowed down... |
| 18:49.05 | CIA-40 | 03arcanefoam * r72112 10DHUD2/: |
| 18:49.05 | CIA-40 | DHUD2: |
| 18:49.05 | CIA-40 | -Fixed ace libraries externals |
| 18:49.06 | Peoii | We were 2nd in US for a long time, now we're like 4th. |
| 18:51.25 | profalbert | the error occurs with spells that are not in the spellbook i guess |
| 18:51.34 | profalbert | like backlash |
| 18:53.05 | Zeksie | nah. it's a formatting problem in the string. gimme a min |
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| 19:05.09 | Hakker | It keeps amazing me how many people seem to be able to register without checking the fact if their email adres is correct. |
| 19:10.56 | Zeksie | Xinhuan: btw, that mod is a bit useless, cos it tracks events from the combat log, so won't see ppl getting the portal debuff if person running the mod is in wrong realm. |
| 19:11.13 | Xinhuan | not true |
| 19:11.26 | Xinhuan | debuffs are reported in the combat log regardless of realm |
| 19:11.37 | Xinhuan | in fact any damage/healing received in both realms |
| 19:11.44 | Xinhuan | healing done is also fully reported |
| 19:11.53 | Xinhuan | but damage done seems to be range restricted |
| 19:11.54 | Zeksie | really?? but they're not 'visible'. |
| 19:11.58 | Xinhuan | they are visible |
| 19:12.01 | Xinhuan | but not fully |
| 19:12.13 | Psycho | Man, context makes a big difference in understanding the last few things that were typed. I was like "Why in good god does Zeksie want to know what people on a different server are doing" |
| 19:12.13 | Xinhuan | the other boss in the other realms actually becomes flagged neutral |
| 19:12.18 | Xinhuan | when you switch realms |
| 19:12.23 | Zeksie | heh |
| 19:12.24 | Xinhuan | and the boss in your realm gets flagged hostile |
| 19:12.42 | Zeksie | yes, i knew about the reaction change |
| 19:12.56 | Xinhuan | it would appear from parsing combat logs that all SPELL_CAST_START and SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS are reported fully |
| 19:13.08 | Xinhuan | but the SPELL_DAMAGE from the spells are not reported if you aren't in that realm |
| 19:13.23 | Zeksie | go go consistancy. |
| 19:13.33 | Xinhuan | damage received from spectral burst, etc are all reported as are all buffs/debuffs |
| 19:13.44 | Zeksie | ok. good then |
| 19:13.46 | Xinhuan | in short, the mod works |
| 19:14.09 | Xinhuan | the beauty is in its simplicity |
| 19:14.18 | Xinhuan | of course the author used english spellnames, rather than the spellid |
| 19:14.29 | Xinhuan | but hey we don't really care right |
| 19:14.32 | Zeksie | yeah, it's pretty tiny. neat thing |
| 19:15.50 | Xinhuan | i've got days of kalecgos combat logs ;p |
| 19:17.23 | sag_ich_nicht | mhm |
| 19:17.27 | sag_ich_nicht | fuck you burstdamage |
| 19:17.38 | sag_ich_nicht | tank had 10k aggro on archimond |
| 19:17.57 | Zhinjio | is anyone willing to let me bug them with code snippets for 10 minutes or so to help figure out why my attempt at LoD isn't working? |
| 19:18.06 | sag_ich_nicht | 4 crits in 1.5 seconds apparently equal more than 11k aggro. |
| 19:18.09 | Zhinjio | I'd prefer not to spam the channel with it |
| 19:18.21 | Xinhuan | ?_? |
| 19:18.39 | sag_ich_nicht | one in a fucking million >< |
| 19:18.47 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie you seen my query? |
| 19:19.02 | Zeksie | yeah. will read it later when it's likely to make sense |
| 19:19.14 | sag_ich_nicht | wth does that mean? :P |
| 19:19.37 | Zeksie | means i have a headache and i'm not going to even try to look thru it atm :) |
| 19:19.43 | sag_ich_nicht | ^^ |
| 19:21.15 | Zeksie | if you're complaining about some single assignments not always being 100% optimal, i know. the whole generating thing is due a re-write and that sort of thing will get sorted out then |
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| 19:24.04 | sag_ich_nicht | Zeksie: i know multiple single buffs were not being assigned optimally |
| 19:24.10 | sag_ich_nicht | but this is about a single singlebuff :P |
| 19:24.39 | Lywellyn | Is it possible for the average user to be able to log into Fish? |
| 19:25.10 | sag_ich_nicht | it put BoL to me(ret paladin, imp. BoM 5/5) and BoS/single BoM@tankdruid to a holy paladin |
| 19:25.15 | sag_ich_nicht | which is... well stupid :P |
| 19:26.09 | elite3vil | wait, there's a mod that autoassigns blessings? |
| 19:26.12 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 19:26.12 | Zeksie | it may seem stupid, but the ideal choice prolly got locked for some reason. remember that it'll prefer to do group buffs whenever possible |
| 19:26.20 | Zeksie | and it won't go and rearrange the class buffs after the fact |
| 19:26.30 | Zeksie | elite3vil: why yes there is |
| 19:26.33 | Zeksie | ZOMGBuffs |
| 19:27.05 | CIA-40 | 03arcanefoam * r72115 10DHUD2/: |
| 19:27.05 | CIA-40 | DHUD2: |
| 19:27.05 | CIA-40 | -Included AceOO as an External |
| 19:27.14 | elite3vil | ~ZOMGBuffs |
| 19:28.23 | CIA-40 | 03kagaro 07kagaro * r72116 10BigWigs_Cinematographer/Cinematographer.lua: BigWigs_Cinematographer: DRYCODE checkin |
| 19:28.30 | Psycho | I think Nazis are tunneling up through the floor of my office. |
| 19:28.48 | elite3vil | Zeksie: Would that replace my PallyPower? |
| 19:29.12 | Zeksie | it could if you wanted it to |
| 19:29.22 | Zeksie | it'll talk with PP users, so you can auto generate for them too |
| 19:29.33 | Zeksie | that's how sag_ich_nicht uses it |
| 19:29.40 | Zeksie | rest of his lot still use PP |
| 19:29.59 | elite3vil | Yeah, all of us use PP |
| 19:30.05 | CIA-40 | 037destiny * r72117 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2/Babble-Fish-2.2.lua: Babble-2.2: Fish: koKR Update |
| 19:30.06 | Zeksie | although ZOMGBuffs is an auto buffer too, and handles your auras and everythign |
| 19:30.25 | elite3vil | but I can make these guys switch, considering everyone uses WAU |
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| 19:30.45 | Gnarfoz | PP ftw =] |
| 19:31.17 | Zeksie | didn't like pp. took up way too much screen space. so i wrote this instead. |
| 19:31.27 | elite3vil | eh, I hate getting stuck with assinging all the blessings every night |
| 19:31.31 | thelibrarian | can it do what PP does and not waste greater blessings of someone is out of range? |
| 19:31.39 | thelibrarian | s/of/if/ |
| 19:31.52 | Zeksie | thelibrarian yes, there's options like 'wait for raid' 'wait for class/group' etc. |
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| 19:32.33 | Zhinjio | yay! got it figured out. |
| 19:33.19 | Zeksie | reagent buyer too, for your symbols and such |
| 19:33.28 | Fisker- | lol |
| 19:33.29 | danse | hi there, was something changed to bigwigs sounds? i play without ingame sound but still heared bigwigs sound notifications |
| 19:33.33 | thelibrarian | i'll have to give it a try |
| 19:33.40 | elite3vil | I use freerefills to do that |
| 19:33.45 | danse | no bigwigs is quiet... to quiet :( any idea how to change that? |
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| 19:33.52 | CIA-40 | Yata: |
| 19:33.52 | CIA-40 | - Fix to disallow multiple appliance of the same totem set |
| 19:33.54 | Fisker- | some priest got bloodboil |
| 19:33.58 | Fisker- | and he went down to 1hp |
| 19:34.01 | Fisker- | before we got him up :D |
| 19:34.02 | kadrahil | almondjoy was taken on my realm :( |
| 19:34.06 | kadrahil | i need a name for a shammy |
| 19:34.07 | kadrahil | go |
| 19:34.08 | kadrahil | fisker |
| 19:34.20 | Psycho | shazzbot |
| 19:34.26 | kadrahil | O_O |
| 19:34.54 | Psycho | Just start taking names from notable musicians' kids. |
| 19:34.57 | Psycho | Moonunit |
| 19:34.59 | Psycho | dweezil |
| 19:35.06 | kadrahil | lol |
| 19:36.29 | Psycho | mumtaz |
| 19:36.34 | Psycho | what the christ, there's actually a web page about this. |
| 19:36.40 | thelibrarian | Zeksie: suggestion for ZOMGBuffs, how about a 'use an icon that doesn't make my eyes bleed' option? :P |
| 19:36.44 | Psycho | http://www.amiright.com/names/siblings/ |
| 19:36.51 | elite3vil | rofl. |
| 19:36.58 | Zeksie | thelibrarian: you can change the icon :) |
| 19:37.07 | Zeksie | display, icon, class icon |
| 19:37.18 | Zeksie | will use something appropriate to your class |
| 19:37.21 | thelibrarian | I don't mean the icon itself, I mean the technicolo text overlay |
| 19:37.42 | Zeksie | what... it's subtle.. i'm good at subtle |
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| 19:37.53 | thelibrarian | probably because my uiscale is 75% |
| 19:37.58 | thelibrarian | :) |
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| 19:40.46 | elite3vil | hrm, I'm going to have to try this out in the raid tonight. |
| 19:41.10 | elite3vil | Does it scan the raid to tell what spec people are or something? |
| 19:42.37 | Psycho | I'm not sure which addon does it, elite3vil, but there's one that makes your talent spec visible to others. |
| 19:42.43 | Psycho | People who have that addon get automatically sorted |
| 19:42.54 | Psycho | Otherwise you have to do it manually, but it remembers the assignments. |
| 19:43.20 | elite3vil | Neat. |
| 19:44.03 | Psycho | It was a very good addon when I tried it out. Of course, I don't play a paladin and good luck convincing my paladins to use it, but if they had I'm sure we wouldn't be waiting on pally buffs before bosses anymore. |
| 19:44.16 | Zeksie | elite3vil: if you're on about ZOMG. it won't do an active scan yet. but as you view class splits, it'll poll anyone in range, and anyone with RockComm and you'll see their spec icons when detected |
| 19:44.50 | Psycho | I should've indicated it's not fully automatic. You press a button. |
| 19:44.51 | Zeksie | Psycho: yeah, most times the pala buffs in ours raids are assigned and buffed before all others :) |
| 19:44.59 | Psycho | Zeksie: h8 |
| 19:45.15 | thelibrarian | the 'auto buff' thing just traps mousewheel events, right? |
| 19:45.22 | Psycho | Yep |
| 19:45.28 | Zeksie | mousewheel, or another keybind. up to u |
| 19:45.38 | Psycho | I still have ZOMG installed just so fel armor doesn't fall off because people made fun of me for it =P |
| 19:45.40 | thelibrarian | yeah, I prefer to do it manually with a keybind |
| 19:45.47 | thelibrarian | but that's why it's an option, right? :) |
| 19:45.58 | elite3vil | I have mwheel up bound to r11 holy light.. soo.. lol |
| 19:46.10 | Zeksie | thelibrarian: that bugs me, because those paladins are the ones that let buffs slip :) |
| 19:46.28 | thelibrarian | that's what I love about PP, the timers are right there on the screen |
| 19:46.35 | thelibrarian | makes it a lot harder to forget |
| 19:47.05 | Zeksie | thelibrarian: zomg has mid-screen warnings, and the main icon goes all sparkly, and you can see all timers if you mouseover it |
| 19:47.10 | thelibrarian | but of course PP only works for paladins, so when I'm on my mage or my priest it doesn't help |
| 19:47.30 | thelibrarian | cool, is there a default warning time set or do I have to configure it for each spell? |
| 19:47.32 | thelibrarian | like to remind with 5min left or something |
| 19:47.41 | Zeksie | default is 2 mins for greaters, 1 min for singles. |
| 19:47.49 | Psycho | You can actually set it to rebuff with a certain amount of time still left as well, I believe. |
| 19:47.54 | Psycho | Which I thought was neat. |
| 19:47.55 | Zeksie | ye |
| 19:48.29 | Stanzilla | mmm 2nd gate is open? |
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| 19:48.37 | thelibrarian | i normally abuse healbot for buffs which... sotra works |
| 19:48.45 | AckisWork | yes stanzilla |
| 19:49.01 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 19:49.11 | Stanzilla | we're still losing against brut :( |
| 19:49.12 | ReAn | man, i really wish there was a way to /console reloadui MyModName |
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| 19:49.30 | Psycho | We're still losing against Illidan because our flame tanks can't not stand in fire if it makes you feel any better, Stanzilla |
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| 19:49.42 | Stanzilla | it does. thank you |
| 19:49.43 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 19:50.08 | thelibrarian | one thing I wish PP had, and will have to try this out to see how it handles it is: 'Always use single buffs for pets since they have screwy class mechanics' |
| 19:50.09 | Stanzilla | no it doesn't...our healers are newbs |
| 19:50.56 | elite3vil | Thelib: I wish it displayed classes even if you only had a 10 min blessing assigned to that class |
| 19:51.30 | Zeksie | thelibrarian: zomg does not have a pet buff setting. since wow changed to include pets on greater blessings, it's just a lot of wasted effort for paladins to buff a whole different set of buffs on them after the greaters. so they get the same as their paired class, and it'll fill in the singles of those buffs if the pets miss them |
| 19:51.59 | elite3vil | Like, warriors for instance. In order to assign a 4th blessing (salv) to dps warriors, you have to salv all the tanks too. |
| 19:52.21 | kadrahil | so tell the tanks to click it off? |
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| 19:52.33 | kadrahil | sorry i just jumped in here and only read that last line |
| 19:52.52 | elite3vil | Yes, clicking it off is fine, but being able to assign just a 10 minute to the dps warrior would be simpler. |
| 19:52.55 | thelibrarian | heh, we had 5 pallies on our last raid, ran out of buffs so everybody got everything :P |
| 19:53.25 | Xinhuan | (tank still has to click off salv in that scenerio) |
| 19:53.29 | thelibrarian | yes |
| 19:53.51 | nocts | Hmm... firefox or Opera. Which one to install, today. |
| 19:53.58 | thelibrarian | but you can't overwrite it with a 10 min |
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| 19:54.02 | ReAn | OPERA! |
| 19:54.09 | kadrahil | firepra |
| 19:54.11 | kadrahil | . |
| 19:54.17 | Zeksie | zomg will let you just assign single salv to 1 tank, with no greater blessing from that pala. |
| 19:54.25 | Zeksie | to 1 warrior should i say |
| 19:54.45 | elite3vil | good. |
| 19:55.15 | Zeksie | in fact the auto assigned buffs will do that for you, we often have 4 palas with tanks only getting 3 blessings, and our dpser getting the single |
| 19:55.22 | Paene | Opera |
| 19:55.29 | elite3vil | I'll play with it tonight, and assuming everything goes well, make all the baddies switch to zomg tomorrow. |
| 19:55.32 | thelibrarian | lol @ tooltip on the 'Help' button in blessings manager |
| 19:55.38 | elite3vil | You like that to thelib? |
| 19:55.41 | elite3vil | I just noticed that. lol. |
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| 19:56.29 | Zeksie | elite3vil: yeah, just don't be scared at first glance. the manager is a bit more involved than ZOMG, play with the template configurer and the class-splits for a bit and you'll get it |
| 19:56.37 | Zeksie | than PP* |
| 19:56.40 | CIA-40 | 03ammo * r72122 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: |
| 19:56.40 | CIA-40 | oUF_Ammo: fix bug with class colors on class text |
| 19:56.40 | CIA-40 | fix bug with power texts showing on partytargets |
| 19:57.01 | elite3vil | Yeah, It seems to be a lot less restrictive. |
| 19:57.05 | elite3vil | Which I like. |
| 19:58.16 | thelibrarian | I think I get the general idea, you set the preferred priority of the blessings and let it autogen |
| 19:58.25 | thelibrarian | will just take some getting used to |
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| 19:58.34 | CIA-40 | 03belazor * r72124 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (17 files in 15 dirs): |
| 19:58.34 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 19:58.34 | CIA-40 | - Added base for options to each class module |
| 19:58.34 | CIA-40 | - Put module option tables in functions to reduce memory usage |
| 19:58.37 | CIA-40 | - Moved reagents list into class modules as intended |
| 19:58.39 | CIA-40 | - Begun work on the sphere skin system and the Health/Mana/Energy/Rage counters |
| 19:58.39 | Zeksie | thelibrarian: exactly yes |
| 19:58.41 | thelibrarian | what's the best way to handle someone in the group who is manually buffing? |
| 19:58.57 | elite3vil | Slap them in the face and make them download the mod? =P |
| 19:59.01 | Psycho | thelibrarian: It'll send tells to people who don't have the mod. |
| 19:59.01 | thelibrarian | besides that? :P |
| 19:59.04 | Zeksie | thelibrarian: that's a tricky one, and it doesn't handle that well at all |
| 19:59.05 | Psycho | Indicating their buff assignments. |
| 19:59.10 | Psycho | But other than that... |
| 19:59.18 | Zeksie | it does have a whisper option to /tell them their assignments |
| 19:59.22 | Zeksie | but that's a bit ugly |
| 19:59.25 | thelibrarian | assuming i'm the one assigning them |
| 19:59.38 | Psycho | Zeksie: That's what we call an "incentive" to get the mod. |
| 19:59.41 | elite3vil | oh, so scrollwheeling on the .. wow.. that's neat. |
| 19:59.43 | Zeksie | :) |
| 20:00.00 | elite3vil | the aura reminder thing will be nice too |
| 20:00.05 | elite3vil | sparkles make it hard to miss. |
| 20:00.18 | Zeksie | yeah, auto crusader aura when u mount too :) |
| 20:00.24 | elite3vil | Yeah, I saw that already. |
| 20:00.50 | thelibrarian | that looks really cool |
| 20:00.54 | thelibrarian | does it remember what you had before you mounted? |
| 20:00.56 | elite3vil | Is there a way to assign auras to other people? For say like... uh.. Illidan p2? I have some pallies put up FR aura if there's two in a single group |
| 20:00.58 | Zeksie | yeah |
| 20:01.01 | elite3vil | Seems to. |
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| 20:01.24 | Zeksie | default mode is to learn what you cast,. so if you do one manually, it'll assume that's what you want by default |
| 20:02.07 | Zeksie | same goes for blessings. if you manually cast a blessing (greater or single), it'll remember this and change your template |
| 20:02.07 | thelibrarian | can't believe he raided for so long without knowing that shadow resist aura doesn't stack with prayer of shadow protection |
| 20:02.29 | elite3vil | hahaha. |
| 20:03.06 | elite3vil | the other resist auras don't stack with shaman totems too, if you didn't know that. |
| 20:03.37 | thelibrarian | yeah, the resist auras are pretty useless in a full raid :-/ |
| 20:03.51 | elite3vil | Sometimes. |
| 20:04.01 | thelibrarian | ok, highly situational |
| 20:04.02 | elite3vil | sometimes we need 'em for p2 Illidan if we don't have enough shaman |
| 20:04.14 | elite3vil | but yeah, highly situtional |
| 20:05.09 | thelibrarian | i'll definitely have to tweak these settings, I never give hunters and rogues salv first :P |
| 20:05.25 | Zeksie | then there's the spell tracker for stuff like Blessing of Freedom, set who it's to go on and you'll get an icon with a countown and a sound when it expires, with hotkey you can set for in-combat re-buff |
| 20:05.29 | Zeksie | great for Vashj type stuff |
| 20:05.43 | Zeksie | thelibrarian: why not? |
| 20:05.49 | thelibrarian | ooh, might be good for maiden when we badge farm |
| 20:05.49 | Zhinjio | if I want an LoD module to not create a frame unless its loaded, do I put that in the OnEnable code? |
| 20:05.57 | Zeksie | if they don't need salv, they're not f'kin trying hard enough |
| 20:06.05 | thelibrarian | both have effective aggro-reducing talents |
| 20:06.09 | steev | anyone who's done custom dogtags for pitbull around? specifically - im trying to add a new text, but i can only seem to add it to my player's texts - all others, party, target, focus only offer "combat" text under Texts - wondering what I am missing |
| 20:06.14 | thelibrarian | complete aggro wipe in the hunter's case |
| 20:06.16 | elite3vil | Yeah, I don't give hunters salv before they have might, kings, and wisdom |
| 20:06.20 | Zeksie | rogue having to use feint is a waste of dps |
| 20:06.30 | thelibrarian | they get it if there's multiple pallies |
| 20:06.34 | thelibrarian | it's just not top priority |
| 20:07.11 | steev | Zeksie: so should a rogue not vanish to ambush again because the 2 seconds of the animation for vanish are also missing dps? |
| 20:07.38 | Zeksie | did i say that? |
| 20:07.43 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: I would think yes based on my meger understanding |
| 20:07.44 | Zeksie | i said feint was a waste of dps |
| 20:08.01 | steev | why? its 2 seconds as well |
| 20:08.02 | thelibrarian | grabs the popcorn. |
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| 20:08.16 | steev | at max 2 seconds |
| 20:08.25 | Zeksie | and how long the animation takes to play has nothing to do at all with how long you stop attacking |
| 20:08.37 | steev | you stop attacking longer with vanish than with feint |
| 20:08.47 | Zeksie | you don't stop attacking at all with feint.. |
| 20:09.06 | Zeksie | and once again, i didn't mention vanish at all... what are you on about?? |
| 20:09.14 | durcyn | feint is static threat reduction, any rogue that has it on his bars is probably dumb in some way |
| 20:09.28 | durcyn | scratch that, not probably. definitely. |
| 20:09.39 | Zeksie | haven't needed to use feint since we got palas. |
| 20:10.30 | steev | so what you are really saying is - if you have a paladin, you don't need to use feint, not that you should never use feint |
| 20:10.35 | Arrowmaster | salv is the top priority blessing for any dps |
| 20:10.50 | vhaarr | the only thing a paladin brings to a fight is higher threat the first 5 seconds of a fight |
| 20:10.56 | vhaarr | your warrior tanks just suck |
| 20:11.17 | CIA-40 | 03durcyn 07Ace3 * r72126 10Hourglass/locale-enUS.lua: add internal cooldown strings to locale file, oops. |
| 20:11.22 | durcyn | no, steev, feint is 100% garbage 100% of the time |
| 20:11.29 | Zeksie | steev: go and have some coffee or something and stop picking a fight about something pointless. i gave an opinion, everyone is welcome to one. |
| 20:11.50 | Fisker- | omg |
| 20:11.51 | Fisker- | he died |
| 20:11.53 | Fisker- | teh bloodboil |
| 20:12.03 | Zhinjio | vhaarr: thats a bit of a short-sighted view of pally tanks |
| 20:12.11 | vhaarr | no it isn't |
| 20:12.16 | vhaarr | they are great for aoe tanking |
| 20:12.18 | Zhinjio | multi-target tanking |
| 20:12.24 | AckisWork | vhaarr: I would say pally tank threat is worse for the first 5 seconds of a fight... |
| 20:12.24 | vhaarr | for boss tanking, that is the ONLY difference |
| 20:12.30 | Zhinjio | ranged taunt |
| 20:12.32 | vhaarr | AckisWork: then your pally tanks suck |
| 20:12.50 | AckisWork | Vhaarr: I would disagree there |
| 20:13.00 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: holy crap. thats the hugest advantage of pally tanks.... the first 5 seconds. |
| 20:13.15 | AckisWork | On aoe/undead sure |
| 20:13.26 | Zhinjio | nope, not at all, single target |
| 20:13.41 | steev | so, anyone know about the dogtags question i asked? how to apply it to target's text/frame? |
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| 20:16.59 | thelibrarian | one feature that might be nice, when expire prelude is 0 (module default), have it shows in the tooltip what the default value is |
| 20:17.06 | sica | who cares about the first 5 seconds of a bossfight? the tank gets misdirection so aggro is almost never an issue |
| 20:18.27 | thelibrarian | oh, never mind, I get it now. that defers it to the setting under 'Behavior' |
| 20:19.25 | Zhinjio | hmm, same with locale information I guess. |
| 20:19.47 | Zhinjio | if I don't want the locale strings to load unless the module is loaded, I need to have those assignments take place in the OnEnable code |
| 20:19.50 | Zhinjio | ?? |
| 20:20.31 | Zhinjio | and that brings up another point ... if I unload the module later, how do I free that shit up? |
| 20:20.35 | Zhinjio | or can I even |
| 20:21.15 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 20:21.42 | Paene | aside from good programming practice, if you initially define your addon var (i.e. Cryolysis3, Quartz, Omen, etc) as global, do you really even need to ever use "local Cryolysis3 = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("Cryolysis3");" It seems like it just adds a ton of function calls. |
| 20:21.57 | vhaarr | no you don't |
| 20:22.17 | Belazor | is there ever a reason to doing it at all |
| 20:22.28 | Xinhuan | you just do "local Cryolysis3 = Cryolysis3" |
| 20:22.37 | Xinhuan | and that localizes the global var to the local var |
| 20:22.43 | Paene | why not just access the global directly? |
| 20:22.51 | Xinhuan | local var access is always faster |
| 20:22.57 | Paene | ah ic |
| 20:22.59 | Xinhuan | because accessing the global is a table lookup |
| 20:23.00 | Belazor | thanks :) |
| 20:23.03 | vhaarr | saves a table lookup in the global environment |
| 20:23.08 | Xinhuan | all globals are stored in the _G[] table |
| 20:23.09 | Snago | Global var means a table lookup every time |
| 20:23.17 | Xinhuan | _G["Cryolysis3"] in this case |
| 20:23.27 | Belazor | Lemme guess, global vars are related to tabelz. And lookupz |
| 20:23.27 | Belazor | XD |
| 20:23.36 | Paene | wait wait, does accessing a global var require a table lookup? |
| 20:23.40 | Paene | :-p |
| 20:23.42 | Xinhuan | so yes, you can retrieve your addon using _G["Cry".."oylsis"..3] |
| 20:23.43 | Snago | And there's a lot of keys in the global table so it could take (relativly) a lot of time |
| 20:23.49 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 20:23.56 | Xinhuan | access a global is always a tablelookup |
| 20:24.25 | Xinhuan | at the top of most addons, you will see stuff like |
| 20:24.35 | Xinhuan | local pairs, ipairs = pairs, ipairs |
| 20:24.48 | Xinhuan | that's just taking the global function reference and assigning it to local vars |
| 20:24.52 | Paene | ic |
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| 20:25.07 | Paene | so what's the point in using local Cryolysis3 = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon("Cryolysis3");? |
| 20:25.11 | Paene | special circumstances? |
| 20:25.15 | vhaarr | there's no point |
| 20:25.19 | Xinhuan | multifile addons |
| 20:25.34 | Xinhuan | might use it |
| 20:25.39 | Xinhuan | but not much point otherwise |
| 20:25.44 | vhaarr | better to just make it global then |
| 20:25.50 | vhaarr | there's no point to that line |
| 20:25.51 | Belazor | You mean if we made a module in an external addon folder? |
| 20:26.06 | vhaarr | what he means is irrelevant, that line should be banished |
| 20:26.07 | Xinhuan | if you do local Cry = Libstub(blahblah), you can later global it by doing _G["Cry"] = Cry |
| 20:26.09 | vhaarr | it's better to use a global |
| 20:26.23 | Paene | nah, cuz it's still global...so modules can still reference the global |
| 20:26.25 | Paene | yeah |
| 20:26.33 | Belazor | and banished it will be as soon as I doubleclick all these files, much appreciated :) |
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| 20:26.41 | Xinhuan | there are specific cases you don't want it to be global |
| 20:26.48 | Xinhuan | but those situations are pretty rare |
| 20:27.03 | Paene | I doubt we'll run into that |
| 20:27.16 | Paene | thanks guys |
| 20:27.39 | Xinhuan | you can take a look at GatherMate if you want to take a look at a multifile ace3 addon that uses modules |
| 20:27.57 | Paene | been looking at Omen a bit |
| 20:28.08 | Xinhuan | Omen is fairly complicated |
| 20:28.20 | Killmore | http://img508.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warglaivesod3.jpg ! |
| 20:28.25 | Xinhuan | more so than usual because the library threat-2.0 is itself an ace3 addon |
| 20:28.30 | Xinhuan | but it has to function like a library too |
| 20:28.39 | Xinhuan | and be upgradable |
| 20:28.48 | Ozguli | *nods sure, Killmore |
| 20:29.04 | Xinhuan | so the code is quite "convoluted" |
| 20:29.18 | Killmore | Ozguli: haha :P |
| 20:29.22 | Dashkal | mmm, photoshop |
| 20:29.48 | Paene | ah ic....local table_sort = _G.table.sort |
| 20:29.48 | Paene | local math_abs = _G.math.abs in Omen...to make frequently used global API calls faster |
| 20:29.58 | Paene | nice little trick |
| 20:30.11 | Xinhuan | its not really a trick, more so standard lua practices |
| 20:30.27 | Paene | fine then, nice feature? :-p |
| 20:30.37 | vhaarr | Paene: note that it only really matters if you use those functions a lot |
| 20:30.43 | vhaarr | like inside a OnUpdate |
| 20:30.43 | Paene | yeah |
| 20:30.45 | Xinhuan | another addon you can look at for ace3 and modules is HandyNotes |
| 20:31.40 | Xinhuan | another one is Routes i guess |
| 20:31.46 | Xinhuan | i did use modules in there |
| 20:31.55 | Paene | kk |
| 20:31.57 | CIA-40 | 03durcyn 07Ace3 * r72127 10Hourglass/core.lua: re-key internal cooldown table to spell ID instead of name |
| 20:31.58 | Paene | thanks |
| 20:32.13 | SunTsu | Merl_: \mHud\Configuration\Configuration.lua line 3: Usage: GetLocale(application[, silent]): 'application' - No locales registered for 'mHud:Configuration' |
| 20:32.17 | AckisWork | hmm if I got local foo = addon and then foo.bar = 12345, is foo.bar local or global? |
| 20:32.20 | SunTsu | Merl_: deDE |
| 20:32.30 | Xinhuan | neither |
| 20:32.38 | CIA-40 | 03durcyn 07Ace3 * r72128 10Hourglass/core.lua: remove debug print |
| 20:32.42 | Xinhuan | foo.bar is an entry in the table foo |
| 20:32.52 | Xinhuan | both "foo" and "addon" refer to the same table |
| 20:32.54 | CIA-40 | 03belazor * r72129 10/branches/Cryolysis3/ (14 files in 5 dirs): |
| 20:32.54 | CIA-40 | Cryolysis3: |
| 20:32.54 | CIA-40 | - Correct some global -> local booboo's. |
| 20:32.54 | CIA-40 | - Also something about skinning support half-way ready. |
| 20:32.56 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: Is it possible to have different keybindings for each character while using Bartender3? A friend of mine says that when he changes keybindings for one profile, they change for the others as well. |
| 20:33.01 | Merl_ | SunTsu: hm, still there? I don't have any DE installation to play with, so kind of hard to debug :-s |
| 20:33.05 | Xinhuan | foo is a local variable, addon is a global |
| 20:33.14 | Xinhuan | but they both point to the same table object |
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| 20:33.22 | Xinhuan | so foo.bar == addon.bar |
| 20:33.23 | nevcairiel | Hjalte: tic the character specific keybinds option in the keybindings menu |
| 20:33.24 | SunTsu | Merl_: If you didn't change that the last 30 minutes: Yes |
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| 20:33.44 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: but foo.bar is faster than addon.bar then? |
| 20:33.46 | Herio | I can't seem to find any API to see if you have guild bank repair permissions =/ |
| 20:33.51 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:33.58 | Xinhuan | by 1 table lookup |
| 20:34.02 | AckisWork | ok I think I understand that |
| 20:34.05 | vhaarr | Herio: wowwiki.com, look at the interface customization section |
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| 20:34.41 | Merl_ | SunTsu: No, haven't made a commit in quite some time, been working on another project, I'll have a look at the locale files after my raid |
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| 20:34.53 | Herio | nevermind |
| 20:34.55 | Herio | I found it |
| 20:34.58 | Xinhuan | a "well written addon" will generally have no global vars, or exactly 1 - the addon object itself |
| 20:35.01 | Herio | it was buried a bit =P |
| 20:35.03 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: He hadn't seen that switch. I bring his thanks :) |
| 20:35.13 | Xinhuan | sometimes, "blizzard standards" will force you to use globals |
| 20:35.20 | durcyn | Xinhuan: "well written addon" is hardly predicated on the use of 'local' |
| 20:35.40 | Xinhuan | for example, their keybinding system requires you to use global strings to localize them, as well as the slash command |
| 20:35.44 | SunTsu | Merl_: Tanke your time |
| 20:35.45 | vhaarr | durcyn: you'd be surprised |
| 20:35.46 | SunTsu | Tanke |
| 20:35.58 | AckisWork | Using local vars over global is the first rule I learnt in CS |
| 20:35.59 | SunTsu | Take, damn it |
| 20:36.01 | vhaarr | durcyn: go look at the code for damagemeters, dbm, or any of the other crapshack addons |
| 20:36.07 | vhaarr | durcyn: and see how many globals they produce |
| 20:36.16 | durcyn | now i'm scared. |
| 20:36.20 | Xinhuan | if you wonder why opening the "guild panel" in combat will often cause "action blocked" errors |
| 20:36.21 | vhaarr | you should be |
| 20:36.26 | Xinhuan | the reason is because blizzard code used globals |
| 20:36.37 | AckisWork | isn't it: luac -l foo.lua |
| 20:36.40 | Xinhuan | and poorly written addon code wrote to the same globals unknowingly |
| 20:36.44 | AckisWork | to see which globals you've created? |
| 20:36.48 | Xinhuan | and blizzard code reads it and taints |
| 20:37.02 | durcyn | AckisWork: -l -p, unless you want luac.out sparead all over your filesystem |
| 20:37.11 | thelibrarian | AckisWork: that's the one thing about lua that I don't like; how it defaults to global scope |
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| 20:37.34 | Xinhuan | different language, different system thelibrarian |
| 20:37.48 | AckisWork | I had found a bug last weekend in ARL where apparently I was declaring _ as a global var... caused some problems :P |
| 20:37.50 | Xinhuan | consider C, they force you to declare all used variables |
| 20:38.10 | Xinhuan | in visual basic, an undeclared variable is declared on its first use as local |
| 20:38.20 | thelibrarian | Xinhuan: oh, I've worked with many different languages :) merely comparing lua to them |
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| 22:05.27 | sedine | Hello |
| 22:05.49 | Recluse | pastamancer: my problem is my addon generates a lot of garbage over the past few commits, and i'm fairly certain it's my table reuse :p i haven't narrowed down the section of code which is causing the garbage yet. my thoughts are in these two funcs: http://recluse.pastey.net/86897 |
| 22:06.26 | vhaarr | Recluse: ouch |
| 22:06.36 | kadrahil | it may just be a misspelling i don't know |
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| 22:06.49 | vhaarr | Recluse: are you the author of NiHao? |
| 22:07.01 | Recluse | vhaarr: yeah, that would be me. |
| 22:07.05 | vhaarr | dude |
| 22:07.09 | [Endeavour] | How can i find out a table entry's name? array = {["test"]=0} something that returns "test", i mean its name actually if i type array[1] |
| 22:07.44 | Paene | for k, v in pairs(table), do |
| 22:07.50 | vhaarr | Recluse: words can't describe how much your code stinks, I hope you'll accept help |
| 22:07.53 | pastamancer | Recluse: congrats, you won a vhaarr |
| 22:07.55 | Paene | k is the key value |
| 22:08.01 | Recluse | LOL |
| 22:08.11 | Recluse | vhaarr: i wouldn't doubt it :p |
| 22:08.11 | CIA-40 | 03pettigrow * r72140 10BigWigs/ (45 files in 11 dirs): BigWigs: frFR Update |
| 22:08.24 | Paene | [Endeavor]: that was for you btw |
| 22:08.30 | Shot | This is where I sit wondering what's so bad about the code, as I can't see anything wrong with it :D |
| 22:08.33 | vhaarr | pastamancer: NiHao is the one of those addons that do :RegisterAllEvents() and strsub event names to see if it should do anything |
| 22:08.34 | [Endeavour] | oh, i thought it would return its index? well i'll give it a try! thanks Paene |
| 22:08.41 | Paene | wait |
| 22:08.43 | Paene | it would |
| 22:08.50 | Paene | maybe I misunderstood |
| 22:08.56 | pastamancer | vhaarr: say what?!@ |
| 22:09.06 | vhaarr | Recluse: contrags, you won a pastamancer |
| 22:09.17 | Recluse | heh |
| 22:09.23 | Paene | [Endeavor]: in your example, what do you want returned as the value? |
| 22:09.35 | [Endeavour] | test. the name of the field |
| 22:09.39 | Xinhuan | what the fuck? more than one addon on the SVN uses RegisterAllEvents? |
| 22:09.40 | [Endeavour] | not 0, the value |
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| 22:09.49 | Shot | then you want the index |
| 22:09.52 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: NiHao is the only one I know of :P |
| 22:09.55 | Paene | right, the name of the field is the index/key |
| 22:10.00 | pastamancer | wait... so is it a prat plugin? |
| 22:10.01 | Paene | so what I said would work |
| 22:10.02 | Xinhuan | vhaarr: the second one is Prat |
| 22:10.04 | Shot | "test" is the index, returned as k in "for k,v in pairs(table)" |
| 22:10.06 | vhaarr | ah |
| 22:10.15 | vhaarr | well I never used prat, so |
| 22:10.18 | Xinhuan | the core prat files do a register all events |
| 22:10.18 | Recluse | is the way i was taught way back when is all :p |
| 22:10.22 | Paene | [index] = value |
| 22:10.24 | [Endeavour] | thanks, Paene&Shot :) |
| 22:10.27 | Paene | np |
| 22:10.30 | vhaarr | Recluse: NONSENSE |
| 22:10.31 | Xinhuan | and then filter out whatever the submodules wants and calls their functions |
| 22:10.36 | vhaarr | Recluse: NOONE would teach you to do it that way |
| 22:10.55 | vhaarr | Recluse: certainly not anyone in here |
| 22:11.04 | pastamancer | oh... oh my |
| 22:11.21 | Xinhuan | oh dear, someone is teaching the use of RegisterAllEvents?? |
| 22:11.38 | pastamancer | it tries very hard to ignore the fact that it's using ace2 |
| 22:11.42 | Recluse | Xinhuan: this would have been 1-2 years ago |
| 22:11.52 | Xinhuan | p.s. even blizzard code doesn't use it |
| 22:12.11 | vhaarr | Recluse: I've been in this channel since close to the start, and noone has ever done teachings on using :RegisterAllEvents |
| 22:12.30 | vhaarr | Recluse: in any case |
| 22:12.35 | vhaarr | Recluse: your suspicion is correct |
| 22:12.45 | vhaarr | Recluse: the code you pasteyed is indeed a serious offender |
| 22:12.47 | vhaarr | can you guess why? |
| 22:13.26 | pastamancer | oh, and it's using the global arg1..argn |
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| 22:13.45 | Xinhuan | pairs by keys is returning a new function every call |
| 22:13.46 | Xinhuan | O_O |
| 22:13.52 | Xinhuan | and a new table too |
| 22:13.54 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: jesus |
| 22:13.59 | vhaarr | stop feeding the guy everything |
| 22:14.12 | pastamancer | Recluse: so what exactly is NiHao supposed to do? |
| 22:14.14 | Xinhuan | stop being cryptic ~_~ |
| 22:14.30 | vhaarr | I asked him what he thought, if he said "I have no clue", then I would've said what you did |
| 22:14.35 | Recluse | vhaarr: that's what i thought (culprit) |
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| 22:15.28 | Xinhuan | surprisingly, BuildItemMenu() looks fine |
| 22:15.46 | vhaarr | no it doesn't |
| 22:15.47 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: if it makes any sense, when i use wowequip by itself i don't get that error |
| 22:15.48 | Xinhuan | although it could be better |
| 22:15.55 | CIA-40 | tektest: 03Tekkub 07master * r1f567e0 10/: Test |
| 22:15.55 | CIA-40 | tektest: 03Tekkub 07master * r2f567e0 10/: Test |
| 22:15.59 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: but when i enable tourguide,tomtom,lightheaded etc i get it |
| 22:16.02 | vhaarr | there are several points of interest in :BuildItemMenu |
| 22:16.06 | Xinhuan | lol kadrahil o_O |
| 22:16.09 | hydrogen | yay git? |
| 22:16.11 | kadrahil | Xinhuan: i know ;X |
| 22:16.43 | Recluse | pastamancer: it gathers loot values to give a profit values for farm sessions: http://i26.tinypic.com/sbix40.jpg |
| 22:16.47 | hydrogen | I thought cia was talking about svn at first still.. was trying to figure out who b0rked it into assigning hexes for revision numbers |
| 22:16.57 | Xinhuan | those points of interest are not as major as the iterator one vhaarr ;p since its just static memory usage |
| 22:16.59 | vhaarr | Recluse: what does :GetItemData and :GenerateLink do |
| 22:17.05 | JJSheets | rofl, the random name generator just gave me "Moron" for an undead. :p |
| 22:17.21 | JJSheets | Followed by "Blah" |
| 22:17.29 | Peoii | Anyone happen to have a raid shot showing RBM working actively? |
| 22:17.44 | ArrowmasterClass | hydrogen: cia works with lots of different VCS |
| 22:17.51 | pastamancer | Recluse: so it watches for items and cash that you loot and shows a summary in a fubar tooltip? |
| 22:17.51 | Paene | isn't Nihao the same thing as FarmerFu then? |
| 22:17.59 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: yes true |
| 22:18.03 | Xinhuan | wtb kadrahil |
| 22:18.07 | Xinhuan | btw kadrahil |
| 22:18.14 | Xinhuan | that error you are getting |
| 22:18.16 | Xinhuan | wait let me check |
| 22:18.19 | hydrogen | ArrowmasterClass: right, but I wasn't expecting to see git commits in here |
| 22:18.26 | Recluse | pastamancer: essentially, yes. |
| 22:18.39 | Paene | Farmer...Fu...? |
| 22:18.40 | Recluse | vhaarr: http://recluse.pastey.net/86898 |
| 22:18.41 | Paene | lol |
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| 22:18.58 | ArrowmasterClass | hydrogen: why not? more than just wowace gets reported in here |
| 22:19.22 | Recluse | Paene: never heard of FarmerFu :p so, not sure offhand |
| 22:20.13 | pastamancer | Recluse: so why is it watching a whole bunch of chat events rather than just CHAT_MSG_LOOT and CHAT_MSG_MONEY? |
| 22:20.27 | Paene | Recluse: I take that back, FarmerFu only counts the items |
| 22:20.28 | pastamancer | at least I assume that's what eventMap is there for |
| 22:20.48 | Xinhuan | ok kadrahil, that error has nothing to do with wowequip |
| 22:20.59 | vhaarr | Recluse: I'm sorry but I can't help you, cleaning up the NiHao code is a good 3-hour project minimum, and I was just in the middle of something here |
| 22:21.12 | Xinhuan | only reason why wowequip is mentioned is because you happen to be using a copy of that embedded library |
| 22:21.38 | Xinhuan | someone embedded AceConfigCmd-3.0 withotu embedded AceConsole-3.0 |
| 22:21.42 | Xinhuan | in one of your addons |
| 22:21.51 | Recluse | vhaarr: it's okay, i was just pondering if my use of existingTable = {} could be generating garbage and if that has a better way of being done |
| 22:21.53 | Xinhuan | and LibItemBonus-2.0 doesn't require either of those |
| 22:21.55 | vhaarr | Recluse: you have to start researching stuff, don't just go with the first thing that works |
| 22:21.59 | Xinhuan | since both are optional |
| 22:22.10 | pastamancer | vhaarr: clean-up? I'd honestly suggest a complete rewrite.... without copy/pasting from prat |
| 22:22.10 | vhaarr | Recluse: your addon is full of shit, dude, it's bad |
| 22:22.16 | vhaarr | pastamancer: indeed |
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| 22:22.30 | vhaarr | Recluse: you're setting globals all over the place |
| 22:22.36 | vhaarr | I have to stop now |
| 22:22.41 | vhaarr | before this addon consumes me |
| 22:22.48 | pastamancer | ~comfort vhaarr |
| 22:22.49 | purl | There, there, vhaarr. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:22.49 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 22:23.03 | Recluse | XD |
| 22:23.11 | pastamancer | at least it's not |
| 22:23.16 | pastamancer | AlarLib |
| 22:23.38 | CIA-40 | 03durcyn 07Ace3 * r72141 10Hourglass/core.lua: Fall back to spell name/icon if item ID isn't set |
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| 22:25.48 | AckisWork | I think we need an AckisLib... it can be 100% dry-coded |
| 22:26.33 | pastamancer | haha |
| 22:26.46 | pastamancer | you just need to play wow at work |
| 22:26.53 | AckisWork | lol |
| 22:26.55 | AckisWork | I've tried |
| 22:27.01 | AckisWork | although I got a dual-core now |
| 22:27.09 | AckisWork | may work actually |
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| 22:32.13 | Tasky | hm any tips with working with the unitflag bitmask? (combat_log_event) |
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| 22:33.25 | stew_a | do you guys use drycode as in untested or drycode as in don't repeat yourself? |
| 22:34.26 | Funkeh` | there is no such thing as drycode here |
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| 22:35.18 | Xinhuan | hmm i wonder if this is allowed |
| 22:35.38 | Xinhuan | lua> a = function(_,_,_,_,haha) end |
| 22:35.39 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: No output |
| 22:36.12 | Xinhuan | lua> a = function(_,_,_,_,haha) print(_) print(haha) end a(1, 2, 3, 4, 5) |
| 22:36.12 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 4, 5 |
| 22:37.19 | Xinhuan | i wonder if there's any performance penalties to doing that hehe |
| 22:37.36 | Xinhuan | by declaring multiple local copies of _ |
| 22:37.36 | ckknight | stew_a: DRY = don't repeat yourself. if it's lowercase, it's something else. drycode is untested |
| 22:38.01 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no, it actually treats them basically as 4 separate registers internally |
| 22:38.14 | Xinhuan | i don't even think lua uses registers |
| 22:38.23 | ckknight | except that yes, it does. |
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| 22:39.02 | ckknight | actually, not in that context, mind you |
| 22:39.08 | Xinhuan | well yeah |
| 22:39.11 | Xinhuan | you get what i mean |
| 22:39.17 | Xinhuan | it'll all be on the stack but copied to registers |
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| 22:40.04 | CIA-40 | 03durcyn 07Ace3 * r72142 10Hourglass/core.lua: add warglaive and crystalforge set bonus proc hidden cooldowns |
| 22:40.23 | Xinhuan | lua makes for some very very fun obscufating techniques |
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| 22:41.49 | Hjalte | Anyone involved in the development of Skillet online? |
| 22:43.20 | Xinhuan | no |
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| 22:43.59 | Xelopheris | !rating 1350 |
| 22:43.59 | Xinhuan | 1350 rating gives 311(5s), 273(3s) and 236(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 22:44.34 | Hjalte | I have the weirdest bug. When I have Skillet open, and then mouseover the let side of my screen, I see reagents for the potions I can create... They're just hanging in the air. Anyone else having this problem with Skillet? |
| 22:45.38 | stavmar | Hjalte: not that one, ut i have an error message appear in teh system messages indicating a problem with a lib about a hovered item, and then it slows my CPU down to a crawl? |
| 22:46.33 | Hjalte | stavmar: I'm not feeling any slowdown of sorts, sorry :) |
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| 22:47.10 | stavmar | i will copy the error on a pasty and see what anyone else interprets? |
| 22:48.32 | Hjalte | AHH! What I see is the original tradeskill window - I wonder why Skillet has done such a bad job hiding it. |
| 22:49.28 | stavmar | Xinhuan: Woot! you update libpossessions to workwith bank items that is sweet |
| 22:49.47 | Viper_0000 | im using classtimers, |
| 22:49.55 | Viper_0000 | and i want to use the allinone bar on it |
| 22:50.02 | Viper_0000 | and it like randomly fades in/out |
| 22:50.16 | Viper_0000 | is it reportedly buggy liek that or what >., |
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| 22:52.32 | CIA-40 | 03Shot * r72143 10DoIKnowYou/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:52.32 | CIA-40 | DoIKnowYou: |
| 22:52.33 | CIA-40 | - Update localisation to set frame texts (hopefully) |
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| 22:53.32 | DarkElf | thinks its a bug with libperiodictable instead of skillet, cause i see periodic letters on the screen |
| 22:55.12 | Zhinjio | quick question ... the person whose account was hacked apparently picked up a keylogger in an addon download? |
| 22:55.34 | Zhinjio | if they're not running a program that is included in the zip stupidly... wtf are they talking about? |
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| 22:56.08 | Dashkal | Probably had their computer compromised some other (non-obvious) way and blamed the last related thing they downloaded |
| 22:56.08 | Zhinjio | I've heard of wowui having some incidents awhile back, but I never caught the nature of the problem. |
| 22:56.25 | Zhinjio | so what was the wowui scandal from awhile back? |
| 22:56.49 | Dashkal | Internet exploder vulnerability exploited by a wowui ad |
| 22:56.53 | Zhinjio | aha. |
| 22:57.05 | durcyn | they were also doing some shady repackaging, no? |
| 22:57.10 | Dashkal | dunno about that |
| 22:57.15 | Nechckn | WoWUI was different- that was using a cracked dev product to create their AddOn updater too... and a few versions contained a keylogger |
| 22:57.31 | Dashkal | oh yeah, in that case who was it who had the malicious ads? |
| 22:58.31 | Nechckn | I think a few of those snuck through on the Win Ace Updater, so they were removed since there was no way to stop 'em |
| 22:58.38 | Nechckn | That was my understanding anyway |
| 22:59.26 | Dashkal | if I remember the posts regarding the cracked dev product, the developer who contributed their addon updater cracked a component. wowui promptly yanked the program when it came to their attention. I don't remember anythinga bout a keylogger |
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| 23:00.29 | Zhinjio | ok. thanks. |
| 23:01.14 | Dashkal | still, had a guildie get hacked recently. Claimed it was an addon. I asked a few questions and it turned out his abject refusal to use FF bit him in the ass. He got directed to a gold farmer's website while using IE. Goodbye |
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| 23:03.16 | ckknight | Dashkal: yep, it was the addons |
| 23:03.36 | mykx | sorry but unless you have downs how do you get keylogged |
| 23:03.46 | Dashkal | Twit should have known better... He does web design and refuses to use FF because "Everybody uses IE and I have to stay compatable" |
| 23:04.13 | shieldb | Pretty sure Parrot ate his crackers. It does state pretty clearly that it will do that. |
| 23:04.18 | hydrogen | shoulda used Opera! |
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| 23:04.47 | ckknight | Dashkal: um, that's why you use both. |
| 23:04.49 | Dashkal | mykx: Internet Exploder has a number of unpatched vulnerabilities. Malicious websites can be crafted that will compormise an unpatched system and install a keylogger without the need to download anything |
| 23:05.03 | Dashkal | ckknight: Absolutely. But he uses IE exclusively for normal web browsing |
| 23:05.07 | *** part/#wowace Thrae|Work (n=Thrae|Wo@mailout2.aqinc.com) |
| 23:05.10 | ckknight | but _why_? |
| 23:05.22 | mykx | ah the wonders of noscript |
| 23:05.39 | Dashkal | mykx: heh, that's why I use it :p |
| 23:06.04 | Dashkal | I have little sympathy for someone who does any work in web space who doesn't perform simple safe browsing |
| 23:06.07 | mykx | I also like the tabbed browsing and autocomplete(tab) etc |
| 23:06.07 | mykx | all in all ff wins |
| 23:06.37 | hydrogen | opera winsmore |
| 23:06.39 | Dashkal | Had he been known for compulsive patching I would have cut him some slack |
| 23:06.59 | Dashkal | even IE is relatively safe if you keep the damn thing patched up. |
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| 23:07.19 | mykx | now I'm not saying your friend is a bad web designer but I thought they normally tested their work on lots of browsers and not juse IE |
| 23:07.26 | mykx | just* |
| 23:07.46 | Dashkal | I don't doubt he tests on FF and Opera, my complaint is that he works in the web world but doesn't understand basic safe browsing practices |
| 23:08.00 | mykx | lol yeah you would think so |
| 23:08.54 | Arrowmaster | no IE is just total fail |
| 23:09.07 | Dashkal | Instead he became an object lesson as to why we keep our valuable guild bank tab GM only |
| 23:10.06 | Arrowmaster | i have my dads computer set to autoupdate, has spybot set to auto scan and auto update, has antivirus with other protection too, and his account is only a user so he cant install anything but he still manages to get spyware and viruses |
| 23:10.15 | Dashkal | heh |
| 23:10.24 | Arrowmaster | because IE is fail |
| 23:10.25 | Dashkal | Windows is pretty fail in general but that's just my opinion |
| 23:10.45 | Dashkal | I won't hook a windows box to the internet without a hardware firewall between it and the open net |
| 23:10.54 | Vanduror | tell your dad to lay off the shady porn sites already, he'll be fine :) |
| 23:11.08 | Arrowmaster | that wont work |
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| 23:11.18 | Arrowmaster | the shady ones are the main ones he goes to i think |
| 23:11.22 | Dashkal | heh |
| 23:11.28 | Dashkal | he's screwed even in FF then. |
| 23:11.46 | Dashkal | I prefer FF not because it is safe, but because it patches nice and quickly |
| 23:12.07 | Dashkal | but you still have those windows between discovery and the actual patch |
| 23:12.22 | Dashkal | mmm, noscript |
| 23:12.45 | Arrowmaster | when i use FF i use it with noscript and adblockplus |
| 23:12.53 | Arrowmaster | i usually use seamonkey though out of habit |
| 23:13.02 | Arrowmaster | with adblockplus |
| 23:13.25 | Dashkal | FF + noscript does enough for me. I'm not adverse to ads so I leave most of them. Flash ads can DIAF, though |
| 23:14.28 | Dashkal | only other addons I have on FF are greasemonkey (yay for fixing terminaly bad layouts), NukeAnything, and an enhanced tab browsing mod (forget the name) |
| 23:14.48 | stew_a | TabMixPlus Dashkal? |
| 23:15.03 | Dashkal | I think it's tabbrowserprefs, but I can't get at my home box atm to check |
| 23:15.28 | Dashkal | I just wanted something to filter most things to new tabs and in the background |
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| 23:19.57 | vhaarr | ~seen kagaro |
| 23:20.13 | purl | kagaro <n=washu@12.38.10.178> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4h 38m 43s ago, saying: 'Snago: I forget to hit my keybinding when learning boss fights for psot review'. |
| 23:20.53 | Zhinjio | can someone recommend a site that hosts one of the massive updater files that brings you BC DVD install up to something recent? |
| 23:20.56 | Zhinjio | I know such things exist |
| 23:21.06 | Zhinjio | igndirect had one awhile back, if I recall correctly |
| 23:21.12 | Zhinjio | anything else someone would recommend? |
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| 23:22.25 | ReAn | well that was fun |
| 23:22.30 | ReAn | my realm's outlands crashed |
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| 23:22.34 | xyu` | i think wowwiki.com/patches |
| 23:22.37 | ReAn | so logged a twink and jumped into WSG |
| 23:22.37 | xyu` | can lead you somewhere |
| 23:22.41 | ReAn | and the BGs crashed >_< |
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| 23:25.26 | CIA-40 | 03seppyk * r72144 10HeadCount/locale/en_US.lua: |
| 23:25.26 | CIA-40 | HeadCount: |
| 23:25.26 | CIA-40 | - Changed version to release version to 2. |
| 23:25.26 | CIA-40 | - Added boss messages. |
| 23:27.28 | CIA-40 | 03seppyk * r72145 10HeadCount/ (17 files): |
| 23:27.28 | CIA-40 | HeadCount: |
| 23:27.28 | CIA-40 | - Added initial development boss kill tracking. |
| 23:27.28 | CIA-40 | - Revised license to Creative Commons |
| 23:27.28 | CIA-40 | - Fixed issue where unavailable loot caused errors during export and mouseover hyperlinks in the loot menu. |
| 23:27.29 | CIA-40 | - Fixed UI display issue where internal content frames were not hidden when a raid was removed causing mouseover errors. |
| 23:27.34 | CIA-40 | - Initial commit of Boss.lua and BossEvent.lua |
| 23:27.40 | Dashkal | meh. Mildly annoyed by the mount trinket changes planned. Hoping things don't come out exactly as planned. Making them enchants is cool, making the skybreaker whip a one-time-use enchant is not cool |
| 23:28.31 | Dashkal | That sucker is a point of pride for me, sure as hell not going to consume it to make one mount +10% |
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| 23:29.59 | Lywellyn | Zhinjio: www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
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| 23:30.36 | CIA-40 | 03toadkiller * r72146 10AutoBar/AutoBarDB.lua: |
| 23:30.36 | CIA-40 | AutoBar : |
| 23:30.36 | CIA-40 | -- AutoBarDB.lua:1203: attempt to index local 'barDB' (a nil value) fix |
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| 23:50.39 | ckknight | creative commons isn't a great license for software |
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| 23:50.40 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 23:52.50 | Zynderps | powerslides across the floor |
| 23:53.04 | Zyndrome | TF2-update live in about an hour |
| 23:53.06 | Dashkal | Anybody know if any cases have defined exactly what default copyright has to say about linking? RMS et al would have them say linking == derived, but I was wondering if that was actually law or just wishful thinking on their part. |
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| 23:56.27 | Lywellyn | Thought I'd ask my two questions again: 1) Is it possible to log into Fisheye? 2) How do I copy certain text to a new window in mIRC? |
| 23:57.07 | smoke__ | your second question you just paste it into the text box |
| 23:57.43 | smoke__ | but its not recommended because it will scroll the screen and people usually dont want you to do that on irc... so i recommend you paste it on like something www.pastebin.com and put the url in the channel for soemoen to read it |
| 23:57.49 | Dashkal | he wants to do it from a hilight |
| 23:58.11 | Dashkal | I seem to remember it being possible but for the life of me I can't remember how |
