| 00:00.07 | Dashkal | (where foo = function(a) return a end) |
| 00:00.14 | [Endeavour] | Xinhuan: No |
| 00:00.27 | Xinhuan | change that to foo = function(a) return a, a end |
| 00:00.31 | Xinhuan | and check |
| 00:00.32 | [Endeavour] | As you do not regg life or mana while dead |
| 00:00.43 | Xinhuan | no i mean the person that get DIed [Endeavour] |
| 00:01.15 | [Endeavour] | aaah, sry :) |
| 00:01.24 | Dashkal | changing the test line to val = foo(1) / val = (foo(1)) |
| 00:01.55 | Dashkal | exactly the same |
| 00:02.11 | psychogears | Nargiddley, I tried what you put in your post but it doesn't seem to work. When I try to make a frame widget, then AddChild the scrollframe, then AddChild a label to the scrollframe, I only see the frame. Any ideas? |
| 00:02.26 | Dashkal | I do fully expect it to differ if I go a, b = foo(1) as opposed to a, b = (foo(1)) |
| 00:02.31 | Nargiddley | psychogears, both layouts set ? |
| 00:02.36 | Dashkal | where foo = function(a) return a, a end |
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| 00:03.45 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74103 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-42 | LibBars-1.0: Use bar.callbacks:UnregisterAllCallbacks(). |
| 00:03.45 | CIA-42 | ~lart Antiarc |
| 00:03.45 | purl | throws Antiarc's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 00:04.22 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74104 10AutoBar/ (14 files): |
| 00:04.23 | CIA-42 | AutoBar : |
| 00:04.23 | CIA-42 | -- AutoBarButtonCharge A Charge Intercept / Intervene / Sprint Button for warriors (druids, rogues to be added later) |
| 00:04.53 | Dashkal | Ok, tested. the difference is that a, b = (foo(1)) results in one extra instruction (it loads nil into a register so it can assign it to b) |
| 00:05.39 | Dashkal | it's smart enough to understand that foo is returning a twice so it just assigns it to both a and b when running a, b = foo(1) |
| 00:05.57 | Dashkal | nifty |
| 00:07.21 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 00:07.32 | Xinhuan | what if it (return a, 2*a) |
| 00:07.42 | Xinhuan | in the function, so its 2 different values |
| 00:08.53 | Dashkal | I think I misread the luac output there, sec |
| 00:08.56 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74105 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: |
| 00:08.56 | CIA-42 | LibBars-1.0: Er, no. |
| 00:08.56 | CIA-42 | ~lart kergoth |
| 00:08.56 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses kergoth's head to break the homerun record |
| 00:09.09 | Toadkiller | All that enclosing brackets mean is evaluate my contents then proceed. You can construct examples where it matter, mostly it does not |
| 00:09.10 | Dashkal | I did misread the syntax |
| 00:09.15 | Dashkal | it wasn't smart enough to realize it was the same value |
| 00:09.22 | Dashkal | it was just popping the two values off the stack |
| 00:09.33 | Dashkal | so return a, 2*a ends up identical to return a, a |
| 00:09.40 | Dashkal | (except of course for the function itself) |
| 00:10.18 | Dashkal | a, b = (foo(1)) results in one extra instruction (loading nil onto the stack) |
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| 00:12.07 | Xinhuan | interesting |
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| 00:12.29 | Toadkiller | So speaking of (), is it thus bad to do "if (blah) then" vs "if blah then" |
| 00:12.42 | Dashkal | Without parens: http://ace.pastey.net/87942 With: http://ace.pastey.net/87943 |
| 00:12.58 | Dashkal | Toadkiller: Not so far as I can tell. Nothing changed in the luac output until it actually mattered |
| 00:13.03 | Shirik | Toadkiller: No |
| 00:13.07 | Shirik | there is no difference |
| 00:13.19 | Shirik | I prefer to put the parentheses because it's a habit and it makes more sense to me |
| 00:13.30 | Dashkal | Which is good cause I like to keep using the parens in if statements so I don't break the habit for my paid java coding :p |
| 00:13.35 | Toadkiller | Good, I had this nagging suspicion I was causing an extra instruction but I like the cleaner look of having () |
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| 00:13.52 | Toadkiller | haha yeah exactly |
| 00:14.00 | Shirik | no, lua does not interpret source code at runtime. It compiles it and uses the bytecode from then on |
| 00:14.04 | Dashkal | Same deal with ; at the end of statements, really |
| 00:14.17 | Shirik | in theory it could take longer to compile, but that's not worth counting |
| 00:14.49 | Shirik | you're also making your source code 2 bytes longer |
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| 00:14.51 | Shirik | big deal :P |
| 00:14.56 | Dashkal | oh my god! |
| 00:14.58 | Tem | Shirik, even if it were interpreted, it wouldn't matter |
| 00:15.11 | Shirik | Tem: It would be two more bytes to parse every time :) |
| 00:15.11 | DARKGuy | I know I know, no need to overreact when I arrive guys ;) |
| 00:15.21 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.22 | Dashkal | roofl |
| 00:15.24 | Dashkal | rofl* |
| 00:15.25 | Tem | Shirik, you don't reparse every time |
| 00:15.30 | Tem | you create a parse tree once |
| 00:15.34 | Tem | and interpret with that |
| 00:15.44 | Shirik | you could |
| 00:16.06 | Tem | if your parse tree structure was different because of the "extra" parens, it would change it, but I rather doubt that |
| 00:16.07 | Shirik | it's probably a stupid idea |
| 00:16.07 | Dashkal | That's one way, but hardly the only one. Besides, the parse tree becomes your "bytecode" at that point. |
| 00:16.24 | Dashkal | term used _very_ losely |
| 00:16.28 | Tem | heh |
| 00:16.46 | Shirik | so um, today I did something like |
| 00:16.50 | Dashkal | It's still a step more processed than the raw code :p |
| 00:17.07 | Shirik | if (foo[n++] == 0 && ++count) |
| 00:17.11 | Shirik | is that bad? |
| 00:17.14 | Dashkal | fondly remembers the dead simple VM he wrote for mud scripting |
| 00:17.29 | Dashkal | oh god, ++ operators in comparason statements |
| 00:17.32 | Dashkal | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:17.32 | purl | shoots Shirik in his sleep |
| 00:17.39 | Shirik | this was so awesome |
| 00:17.53 | Tem | Shirik, this is why C is evil |
| 00:17.53 | Shirik | because count is never 0, also |
| 00:18.04 | Shirik | I used it solely to avoid the braces |
| 00:18.05 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:18.05 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74106 10GemHelper/GemHelper_Localization.frFR.lua: GemHelper: Update frFR |
| 00:18.08 | Tem | you just did like 4 evil things in that one statement |
| 00:18.21 | DARKGuy | BRUTALITY |
| 00:18.22 | DARKGuy | ? |
| 00:18.23 | Shirik | when foo[n++] == 0 is false, I increment count |
| 00:18.26 | Dashkal | i = 0; if (i++ == 0) puts("Foo!"); would output foo... and I hate it for doing that |
| 00:18.38 | Shirik | so when foo[n] is not the null char |
| 00:18.39 | Shirik | I keep counting |
| 00:18.42 | Shirik | it's perfect! |
| 00:18.51 | Dashkal | since i++ copies i, increments it, and returns the copy |
| 00:18.54 | Xinhuan | i think its trying to shortcut evaluate too many things |
| 00:19.00 | Xinhuan | and makes code readability go down to 0 |
| 00:19.07 | Shirik | it didn't need to be readable |
| 00:19.07 | DARKGuy | my question is, does it -work- ? |
| 00:19.08 | Tem | aye |
| 00:19.14 | Tem | it does, DARKGuy |
| 00:19.20 | Shirik | this was code I wrote in 10 seconds to accomplish a small task, and threw it away the next day |
| 00:19.22 | DARKGuy | That's what matters :p |
| 00:19.29 | Shirik | I needed to test my serial line for something |
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| 00:19.50 | Shirik | Dashkal, be careful with saying that :) |
| 00:19.51 | Tem | I dislike the ++ operators in any place where knowing _when_ they increment is important |
| 00:20.10 | Dashkal | Shirik: mmm? which? my definition of i++? |
| 00:20.16 | Shirik | an intelligent compiler would maintain two registers with those values |
| 00:20.21 | Shirik | and not do any copying |
| 00:20.24 | Shirik | they would just be offset by 1 |
| 00:20.28 | Dashkal | two registers == copy |
| 00:20.32 | Dashkal | one register is a copy of the other |
| 00:20.33 | Shirik | not really |
| 00:20.38 | Shirik | because that keeps looping over and over again |
| 00:20.45 | Shirik | it's only copying if you copy it every time you execute that instruction |
| 00:20.59 | Shirik | a good compiler should only copy it the first time you hit that instruction |
| 00:21.04 | Dashkal | I'm not even going to begin to try to anticipate compilier optomizations |
| 00:21.16 | Dashkal | i++ is defined so you can treat it as I described it |
| 00:21.22 | Shirik | that is true |
| 00:21.27 | Dashkal | ++i increments i, then returns the new value |
| 00:21.45 | Dashkal | practically speaking it increments whatever register i got loaded into |
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| 00:21.50 | Shirik | I know my compilers well and what they'll do :) Have to because sometimes I rely on how many cycles something's going to take |
| 00:22.04 | Shirik | especially with regards to serial communications |
| 00:22.13 | Dashkal | Fair enough. I do zero real time programming, though. So I sleep quite happily behind my abstractions |
| 00:22.19 | Aiiane | lol |
| 00:22.23 | DARKGuy | x |
| 00:22.24 | Shirik | I love realtime :) |
| 00:22.24 | DARKGuy | D |
| 00:22.57 | Dashkal | I'm the kind of guy who will quit ehappily leverage all sorts of polymorphic effects in java to be damn certain that concerns are seporated :p |
| 00:23.07 | Dashkal | Not something you do when cycles count :p |
| 00:23.11 | Shirik | oh well when I'm working high level, I'll totally do that too |
| 00:23.29 | Shirik | I love abstraction in Java. Hell, I made 3 classes with nothing in them for one of my projects |
| 00:23.35 | Dashkal | but yeah, I try _verY_ hard not to read the value of i++ simply because it isn't intuitive how it works |
| 00:23.38 | Shirik | Result: abstract class, contains nothing |
| 00:23.43 | Shirik | TrueResult: real class, contains nothing |
| 00:23.52 | Shirik | FalseResult, ErrorResult: real classes, contain a few things |
| 00:24.20 | Shirik | I also love C++ |
| 00:24.24 | Dashkal | I love polymorphism so much :p |
| 00:24.46 | Shirik | The #1 thing I hate about Java is lack of friendship though |
| 00:24.49 | DARKGuy | you must be a mage too. |
| 00:24.54 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:25.08 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 00:25.13 | Dashkal | heh, I' |
| 00:25.18 | Dashkal | Java has friendship |
| 00:25.22 | Dashkal | package-private |
| 00:25.26 | Shirik | that doesn't count :P |
| 00:25.33 | Shirik | that's friendship with an entire package |
| 00:25.48 | Dashkal | If two classes need special access to each other, have them share a data object |
| 00:26.01 | Shirik | Unfortunately, that's my only solution |
| 00:26.02 | Shirik | but I hate it |
| 00:26.02 | Dashkal | I've never had to break encapsulation |
| 00:26.10 | Shirik | because all my other classes in that package don't need it |
| 00:26.13 | Shirik | they shouldn't have to see it |
| 00:26.17 | Dashkal | (well, almost never, there's always reflection) |
| 00:26.27 | Dashkal | then used the shared data object |
| 00:26.32 | Dashkal | use* |
| 00:26.54 | Dashkal | but package-private is generally "safe" in that you should be able to trust all the classes in a package. |
| 00:26.59 | Dashkal | It's public you can't trust |
| 00:27.13 | Dashkal | That said, I haven' |
| 00:27.17 | DARKGuy | I trust no one. |
| 00:27.19 | Dashkal | t flagged anything package-private in a long while |
| 00:27.31 | DARKGuy | o.o |
| 00:27.50 | Dashkal | I don't assume it exists so I just design solutions that don't require it |
| 00:28.20 | Dashkal | And man does it mess with my head when I go try to write lua :S |
| 00:28.45 | Dashkal | Only private attribute is one hiding as an upvalue... |
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| 00:30.03 | Shirik | btw Dashkal |
| 00:30.05 | Shirik | I should point out |
| 00:30.30 | Shirik | your statement earlier /is/ why I do "for (int i = 0; i < n; ++i)" |
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| 00:30.43 | Shirik | instead of the common "i++" |
| 00:30.55 | Dashkal | the extra register requirement? |
| 00:31.29 | Shirik | A while ago I worked with a compiler that insisted on always making a copy when you post-increment (except in very specific indexed indexing circumstances)" |
| 00:31.38 | Shirik | so I got in the habit of always using pre-increment |
| 00:31.52 | Dashkal | Is the third clause of a c for statement actually accessible? |
| 00:32.12 | Shirik | what do you mean? |
| 00:32.27 | Dashkal | for (int i = 0; i < n; 42) |
| 00:32.32 | Dashkal | could you actually get at that 42? |
| 00:32.46 | Shirik | not from outside of the for loop, no |
| 00:32.56 | Dashkal | even inside? |
| 00:33.00 | Shirik | and most compilers are intelligent these days, they'll adjust i++ into something faster |
| 00:33.09 | Shirik | right |
| 00:33.16 | Dashkal | I'm not aware of any way to reach the 42 in or out |
| 00:33.21 | Shirik | there isn't |
| 00:33.23 | Dashkal | kk |
| 00:33.30 | Shirik | sorry, I meant outside of the little part inside there |
| 00:33.34 | Shirik | between the ; and ) |
| 00:33.46 | Dashkal | then any modern compilier should be able to adjust i++ to ++i (or just an INC operation) |
| 00:33.57 | Shirik | and they do |
| 00:34.06 | Shirik | well my compilers can't |
| 00:34.10 | Dashkal | heh |
| 00:34.12 | Shirik | but they make the next best thing |
| 00:34.27 | Dashkal | I'd expect it from gcc, but not so much from a simple compilier written for-purpose. |
| 00:34.33 | Shirik | movfw foo; addlw 1, f |
| 00:34.51 | Dashkal | about the only assembler I know is the one from druidbattles :p |
| 00:34.56 | Dashkal | droid* |
| 00:34.57 | expiation | Funkeh` http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9485/brokenjm2.jpg |
| 00:35.00 | Shirik | PIC is fun :) |
| 00:35.17 | Shirik | it's so nice because there is only 16 bytes that you have access to at all times, and only one working register |
| 00:35.25 | Shirik | everything else you have to know exactly the state of your system |
| 00:35.38 | Dashkal | That and the "assembler" I wrote for a lil mud scripting vm :p (the bytecode was inspiried by apple ][ assembly) |
| 00:35.48 | Shirik | your special purpose registers are divided into 4 banks, and you have to be sure you're in the right bank before trying to access it or bad things will happen |
| 00:36.01 | Dashkal | that would require some awareness |
| 00:36.16 | Dashkal | I'd be scared to write c targeting that unless I really trusted the compilier |
| 00:36.17 | Shirik | so you spend a ton of time not just figuring out what variables you need, but also where to put them so you don't have to keep swapping back and forth between banks |
| 00:36.23 | Shirik | because every bank select operation takes 5 cycles |
| 00:36.49 | Shirik | it's really fun though. There's only 32 opcodes |
| 00:37.10 | Funkeh` | ooo |
| 00:37.12 | Funkeh` | popup |
| 00:37.17 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:37.19 | Funkeh` | firefox 3 rc1 available |
| 00:37.23 | Shirik | yay |
| 00:37.44 | Dashkal | woot! |
| 00:37.54 | expiation | did you get that one Funkeh`? |
| 00:37.56 | Dashkal | Hopefully ubuntu will pick it up monday |
| 00:38.02 | Funkeh` | expiation, thank you, Ill add it, on a positive, urlcopy worked without wierdness :> |
| 00:38.02 | Stanzilla | http://staneck.de/upload/files/ec8dfd-myfirefox_3.png < firefox sexed up for vista |
| 00:38.09 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74108 10RBM_Config/Locales/enUS.lua: RBM_Config: Update Locales |
| 00:38.12 | expiation | yea |
| 00:38.17 | expiation | i think it was just that specific event |
| 00:38.30 | Dashkal | Stanzilla: That is really sexy... |
| 00:38.39 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 00:38.45 | expiation | haven't had it display anything else weirdly |
| 00:39.11 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, that some skin? |
| 00:39.36 | Arrowmaster | did you get an popup to upgrade to 3rc1 from 3b5? |
| 00:39.40 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: sort of. a new extension for real vista glass |
| 00:40.10 | Diskmaster | Wow, ... that's a bit excessive, imo. |
| 00:40.12 | Xinhuan | hehe funky, i just noticed you upload to wowui :p |
| 00:40.31 | Funkeh` | yer |
| 00:41.03 | Allara | Stanzilla: what's the extension called? |
| 00:41.10 | Stanzilla | "Glasser" |
| 00:41.23 | Stanzilla | http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=3343435 |
| 00:42.04 | Xinhuan | is there an event that fires when your pets despawn? I'm talking about things like shadowfiends and treants, voodoo gnomes, etc |
| 00:42.08 | Xinhuan | that aren't controllable |
| 00:43.06 | Xuerian | Funkeh`: rc1? You haven't been using the nightlys? |
| 00:43.14 | Funkeh` | no |
| 00:43.24 | Funkeh` | why would I use nightlys |
| 00:43.29 | Funkeh` | thats a bit obsessive |
| 00:43.39 | Xuerian | Not really. It's been in feature-freeze for a while. |
| 00:43.49 | CIA-42 | 03endeavour * r74109 10Endeavours_BossStatus/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:43.49 | CIA-42 | Endeavours_BossStatus: |
| 00:43.49 | CIA-42 | - Checking boss HP without being actually in a raid instance or targeting that boss |
| 00:43.49 | CIA-42 | - Small fixes, some more options added |
| 00:44.03 | Shirik | I've just been using 3b5 |
| 00:44.15 | Funkeh` | me too |
| 00:44.36 | Xuerian | Been using nightlies since b4, no problems and fixes before the releases |
| 00:45.20 | DARKGuy | Stanzilla, does that work for FF2 or it's FF3-only ? |
| 00:45.28 | Stanzilla | 3 only |
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| 00:45.34 | DARKGuy | upgrades |
| 00:46.13 | Xuerian | The locationbar is absolute win, btw |
| 00:46.49 | Arrowmaster | the search bar keywords are win too |
| 00:47.01 | Allara | Xinhuan: I believe COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED with eventType UNIT_DESTROYED |
| 00:47.04 | Xuerian | Hm? |
| 00:47.05 | Arrowmaster | since thats how im used to searching in seamonkey |
| 00:47.24 | DARKGuy | anybody knows anything about warriors? I'm looking for the best 2-handed sword I can get for pvp :P |
| 00:47.34 | DARKGuy | and I have no idea which is :( |
| 00:47.43 | Arrowmaster | goto manage search plugins and set keywords for stuff, like gg for google and wiki for wikipedia |
| 00:47.52 | Arrowmaster | then you can search from the location bar |
| 00:48.17 | Xuerian | Ahh |
| 00:48.26 | Xuerian | ctrl-k usually does it for me |
| 00:48.38 | Arrowmaster | although it doesnt do the search suggestions like the search bar does |
| 00:48.42 | Arrowmaster | atleast in 3b5 |
| 00:48.50 | Arrowmaster | kinda hope they fixed that |
| 00:49.13 | DARKGuy | Stanzilla, how did you got it to look like that though? |
| 00:49.20 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r74110 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated blacklist |
| 00:49.23 | Funkeh` | expiation, done |
| 00:49.53 | Stanzilla | DARKGuy: that addon + userstyles. go read the guide :P |
| 00:50.02 | DARKGuy | Stanzilla, what guide XD? |
| 00:50.08 | DARKGuy | scratchesh ead |
| 00:50.11 | Stanzilla | on the page I linked |
| 00:50.12 | DARKGuy | *scratches |
| 00:50.17 | Stanzilla | http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=3343435 < |
| 00:50.20 | DARKGuy | besides, myfirefox says it's for older FF versions :( |
| 00:50.28 | DARKGuy | checks |
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| 00:52.01 | DARKGuy | hey thanks Stanzilla ^^ trying it now :D |
| 00:52.48 | DARKGuy | damn. |
| 00:52.50 | DARKGuy | that's -sexy- |
| 00:53.32 | Dashkal | I really hope they can fix Vista so it doesn't suck so much... It's damn sexy... too bad it doesn't _work_. |
| 00:54.41 | Funkeh` | never had a problem with it |
| 00:54.52 | CIA-42 | 03endeavour * r74112 10Endeavours_BossStatus/Core.lua: Endeavours_BossStatus: -another small fix |
| 00:55.08 | Funkeh` | the only thing that sucks is tortoisesvn like to crash explorer frequently |
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| 00:55.17 | Allara | SP1 is a lot better, but still fairly broken |
| 00:55.29 | Allara | I noticed the same thing with tortoise |
| 00:56.02 | Allara | luckily turning on "run windows in a separate process" limits the damage |
| 00:57.29 | Funkeh` | anyone actually got an rc1 link |
| 00:58.42 | Arrowmaster | doesnt seem to actually be out yet |
| 00:59.06 | copystring | hm anyone using RBM? looks i just installed it and i breaks my whole interface :s |
| 00:59.11 | Stanzilla | ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0rc1/ Funkeh` |
| 00:59.59 | DARKGuy | Dashkal, fix vista? o.O |
| 01:00.18 | Stanzilla | Vista fixed = Windows 7 |
| 01:00.22 | Dashkal | DARKGuy: I have lots of issues with it. Just things that don't really work. |
| 01:00.36 | Dashkal | XP took until SP2 to be useable (in my opinion). Hopefully vista will be come sp2 as well |
| 01:01.11 | Dashkal | s/be come/be usable come/ |
| 01:01.16 | Shirik | vista's been usable for a year now :P |
| 01:01.20 | Dashkal | yech |
| 01:01.21 | Shirik | I've had no issues with it |
| 01:01.25 | Arrowmaster | now how to get firefox to use that update file so i dont have to uninstall and reinstall |
| 01:01.26 | Dashkal | I've had lots |
| 01:01.37 | Shirik | and in all honesty, I have not had it bluescreen once except when it was my fault |
| 01:01.46 | Dashkal | Some of them may be hardware, though, so I'm reserving judgement for now |
| 01:01.56 | Dashkal | Bluescreens aren't my issue |
| 01:02.13 | Dashkal | inability to update drivers. major file corruption using the SD card slot, that kind of thing |
| 01:02.20 | Dashkal | and dialogs designed to make my life harder |
| 01:02.30 | Dashkal | (they dummed things down so much it's harder to use for me) |
| 01:02.32 | Funkeh` | what Shirik said tbh, never had a problem |
| 01:02.43 | Arrowmaster | check for updates in firefox just found RC1 |
| 01:02.56 | Dashkal | Some things I really like. The force-you-to-confirm bit is a good thing. |
| 01:03.21 | Dashkal | Sadly many apps don't get along with that so well, but *shrugs* apps will update. |
| 01:03.33 | Shirik | my take on oit |
| 01:03.38 | Shirik | developers are stupid |
| 01:03.40 | DARKGuy | I haven't had any issues with Vista |
| 01:03.44 | Arrowmaster | anybody using firefox3 and not able to get check for updates to find rc1? |
| 01:03.47 | Shirik | if their program doesn't work with vista, I shoudln't be using it |
| 01:03.56 | Dashkal | My complete inability to update my video card drivers is a major pain in the ass for me |
| 01:04.00 | DARKGuy | except for the fact that I tried to run it with 512Mb and it was hell. |
| 01:04.04 | Shirik | These "problems" are caused by things that should have been fixed 8 years ago |
| 01:04.11 | Shirik | " |
| 01:04.13 | Dashkal | "Vista cannot run this application because it's side-by-side configuration is incorrect" |
| 01:04.16 | Shirik | "oh no I can't write to program files directory!" |
| 01:04.18 | Dashkal | WTF? |
| 01:04.26 | Shirik | Dashkal: Usually that means missing DLL |
| 01:04.30 | DARKGuy | haha same issue with both words |
| 01:04.31 | Funkeh` | Arrowmas1er`, use standzillas link |
| 01:04.46 | Shirik | anyway, "oh no I can't write to the program files directory to store my program's configuration1" |
| 01:04.46 | DARKGuy | s/both words/different sentences/ |
| 01:04.56 | Shirik | hey buddy, you weren't supposed to do that SINCE WINDOWS 2000 |
| 01:04.59 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: i just updated with the check for updates option |
| 01:05.00 | DARKGuy | yeah that's stupid |
| 01:05.02 | Dashkal | Shirik: That's what it is? Google was useless researching that |
| 01:05.03 | DARKGuy | let the program do it |
| 01:05.04 | Shirik | that's what %APPDATA% is for |
| 01:05.11 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: so no reinstalling needed |
| 01:05.34 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, I never do that with beta, it makes multiple reg entries and folders |
| 01:05.42 | Funkeh` | uninstall then install |
| 01:05.48 | Shirik | Dashkal: Honestly, there are a ton of things that could cause the problem |
| 01:05.56 | Shirik | but that's the most common |
| 01:06.00 | DARKGuy | Shirik, what if WoW decided to use %APPDATA%? transfering stuff from a PC to another would be more painful |
| 01:06.09 | Shirik | DARKGuy: I'll give wow an exception |
| 01:06.18 | Dashkal | Shirik: All I know is I have ATI drivers that I can't update. The video card in that laptop (yes, it's a laptop) is better than the performance I get with it. |
| 01:06.24 | Shirik | Mostly because its code is constantly being manipulated |
| 01:06.45 | Dashkal | All the more reason to prefer nvidia :p |
| 01:06.52 | Shirik | but think about it DARKGuy, how many programs do you know that you can just move to another computer? |
| 01:07.10 | DARKGuy | Shirik, I use a lot that write to their own path :) |
| 01:07.20 | Shirik | you use a lot written by bad developers then :) |
| 01:07.28 | DARKGuy | no, it's just common sense |
| 01:07.36 | DARKGuy | the user shouldn't touch data that's there |
| 01:07.36 | Shirik | not in the microsoft world |
| 01:07.40 | DARKGuy | true |
| 01:07.41 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 01:07.57 | DARKGuy | Dashkal, nvidia ftw |
| 01:07.58 | Shirik | my opinion, if you're going to write code to work on someone's OS, you better follow by their rules |
| 01:08.13 | DARKGuy | what if you code for 3 OSes? :P |
| 01:08.16 | Shirik | since windows 2000, microsoft has said programs shouldn't write to program files, they should write to %APPDATA% |
| 01:08.27 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: Your code needs a tonumber(num) in the num <= 1 but it works fine besides that |
| 01:08.30 | Shirik | and you know who will agree with me 100% even if they don't know an ounce of programming? |
| 01:08.33 | Shirik | Network administrators |
| 01:08.38 | Xinhuan | Shadowed, what? |
| 01:08.47 | DARKGuy | Shirik, I'd agree :P |
| 01:08.48 | Shadowed | for removing the metadata from things like SecondsToTime |
| 01:08.53 | Arrowmaster | ROFL |
| 01:08.53 | Shirik | network administrators that get pissed off because programs don't work because their users don't have access to write to the server, and programs are installed on the server |
| 01:08.54 | Shadowed | your wowace post |
| 01:08.57 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 01:09.03 | Arrowmaster | goto http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/firefox/its-an-attack.html in firefox3 and then view source |
| 01:09.04 | Xinhuan | feel free to post and correct me, i did say i didn't test it ;D |
| 01:09.42 | Xinhuan | but it should be fine |
| 01:09.51 | Xinhuan | since lua implicitly converts it to a number |
| 01:09.55 | Shirik | but DARKGuy, most applications that run on linux and macos don't write to their program files folder either :) |
| 01:10.03 | Xinhuan | ormaybe it doesn't |
| 01:10.03 | Shirik | but anyway, people will do what they want anyway |
| 01:10.05 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 01:10.27 | DARKGuy | Shirik, some do. /var/lib isn't the same as /home :P |
| 01:10.37 | DARKGuy | or /usr/local |
| 01:10.55 | Shirik | that's where you install applications? |
| 01:11.05 | DARKGuy | no :P |
| 01:11.08 | Shirik | mine are in /bin or /usr/bin or /sbin |
| 01:11.13 | DARKGuy | I pacman -S 'em |
| 01:11.19 | Shirik | heh |
| 01:11.22 | DARKGuy | those are binaries |
| 01:11.32 | DARKGuy | program data resides in /var/ or /usr/share |
| 01:11.37 | DARKGuy | and user data in /home |
| 01:11.39 | Shirik | right |
| 01:11.41 | DARKGuy | but some programs don't use home at all |
| 01:11.42 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 01:11.52 | Shirik | in any case, the program doesn't reside in either of those locations |
| 01:11.56 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, wtf |
| 01:12.02 | Funkeh` | it doesn't show source |
| 01:12.18 | Arrowmaster | because its blocking the site |
| 01:12.39 | Arrowmaster | and noscript doesnt like it either it seems |
| 01:12.55 | Arrowmaster | since if you whitelist about:blocked, it still doesnt recognize it |
| 01:12.57 | Shirik | why is it blocking that o.o |
| 01:13.02 | Arrowmaster | its a test page |
| 01:13.07 | Shirik | ah |
| 01:13.10 | Aiiane | ..because it's designed to be blocked :P |
| 01:13.21 | DARKGuy | well it's an attack |
| 01:13.21 | DARKGuy | duh |
| 01:13.33 | DARKGuy | it's designed to parry it |
| 01:13.35 | Aiiane | nonono... it's a trap! :P |
| 01:13.48 | DARKGuy | damn hunters :( |
| 01:14.59 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r74113 10BankItemsFu/ (. BankItemsFu.lua BankItemsFu.toc embeds.xml): BankItemsFu: - Upgrade from AbacusLib-2.0 to LibAbacus-3.0, update embeds, TOC, etc. |
| 01:16.08 | Xinhuan | Shadowed |
| 01:16.10 | Xinhuan | num = string.match(a, "(%d) |4") |
| 01:16.14 | Xinhuan | should be (%d+) heh |
| 01:16.19 | Xinhuan | i just saw that myself |
| 01:16.23 | Xinhuan | regarding my post |
| 01:16.34 | Shadowed | I'll just hope nobody notices it in SSPVP |
| 01:16.39 | Shadowed | then tell them they fail if they actually break it |
| 01:16.51 | Funkeh` | bollocks |
| 01:17.00 | Funkeh` | keyscrambler don't work with rc1 |
| 01:17.06 | Funkeh` | at least noscript does |
| 01:18.14 | Xinhuan | so right now, it'll only match like 1 digit |
| 01:18.17 | Xinhuan | rather than the whole number |
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| 01:23.21 | starlon | LSM-3.0 needs a getIndexByName(category, name) hehe |
| 01:24.09 | Arrowmaster | i think it has something like that |
| 01:24.22 | starlon | I must be overlooking it |
| 01:24.29 | starlon | It's easy to write though |
| 01:24.38 | Arrowmaster | wait isnt that just Fetch()? |
| 01:25.11 | starlon | That returns the file |
| 01:25.39 | Arrowmaster | and what do you want? |
| 01:26.25 | starlon | The index of "None" from LSM:List("sound") |
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| 01:26.58 | starlon | It's alphabetized with numeric keys now. |
| 01:27.54 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 01:31.45 | NeoTron | kergoth: zomg you killed LibBars! |
| 01:34.02 | Arrowmaster | so just 'for k,v in ipairs(LSM:List("sound")) do if v = "None" then return k end end'? |
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| 01:57.08 | bleeter | gah, why do people insist on pointing externals to dev.wowace |
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| 02:11.41 | dylanm | Any reason my autojoin for here isn't working anymore? Something to do with the spammer? |
| 02:12.10 | Shirik | mode +r |
| 02:12.14 | Shirik | you have to be identifeid |
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| 02:15.02 | Ackis | any of you in karazhan on illidan server now? :P |
| 02:23.24 | steev | anyone know if there is a way to constrain the text in pitbull so that it never goes bigger than the size of the unit frame? |
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| 02:25.12 | ckknight | steev: if you have another text on the other side that has just [White] in it, it'll work |
| 02:25.20 | dylanm | steev: What do you mean by that? You want it to lower the font size if need be? |
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| 02:27.24 | CIA-42 | 03ottokang * r74114 10PallyPower/locale/zhTW.lua: |
| 02:27.24 | CIA-42 | PallyPower: |
| 02:27.24 | CIA-42 | - zhTW Update |
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| 02:31.19 | steev | dylanm: possibly - lemme take a screenshot |
| 02:33.09 | steev | http://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoW/WoWScrnShot_051608_213126.jpg |
| 02:33.51 | steev | look at sandrian's name |
| 02:34.03 | expiation | steev bartender? |
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| 02:34.12 | steev | ? |
| 02:34.24 | expiation | for your bars |
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| 02:34.31 | steev | yes |
| 02:34.46 | steev | its photekui with some customisations |
| 02:35.34 | steev | the trinkets are trinketmenu though |
| 02:37.11 | ckknight | steev: hrm... you could put blank texts on the left and right |
| 02:38.27 | steev | wheer would i do that? |
| 02:38.29 | steev | where* |
| 02:38.34 | steev | in the style - custom ? |
| 02:39.56 | steev | in a wsg at the moment, ill have to test after |
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| 02:45.43 | Miyaki | i'm looking for the maintainer of lern2count... Jerry or MoonWolf. does someone know their irc names or how else to contact them? |
| 02:47.16 | Arrowmaster | dont think jerry uses irc |
| 02:48.30 | Miyaki | that would be bad since there's no other info in the toc file like a mail address.. hmm. |
| 02:50.33 | Aiiane | see if they have accounts on the wowace forums? |
| 02:53.15 | Miyaki | he does. thanks for the help, didn't come to that idea myself |
| 02:53.37 | Xinhuan | jerry doesn't log on irc |
| 02:53.40 | Xinhuan | you will need to use forums |
| 02:53.44 | Xinhuan | and send them PMs or otherwise |
| 03:07.52 | DARKGuy | Hm, I need to do a check for each element in a table against each element of another table. Does Lua provide a better solution than using a for loop inside another one? |
| 03:11.46 | Miyaki | No, there is no better solution |
| 03:11.58 | DARKGuy | Oh, okay, thanks :P |
| 03:12.00 | vhaarr | depends what you are doing, really |
| 03:12.03 | Miyaki | You could apply your check via table.foreach, but that would be even uglier |
| 03:12.13 | vhaarr | perhaps you could give us the exact code |
| 03:13.15 | rubik | ughh... logged in and lost ALL my addon settings on all toons.. this hurts |
| 03:13.34 | Miyaki | Yes, if both tables have the same indexes (or at least check for the same keys), you just need to iterate over one table... but that's not how I understood your question |
| 03:14.12 | vhaarr | or if any of the tables are keyed, you can do it easier |
| 03:14.15 | vhaarr | buy really |
| 03:14.29 | vhaarr | DARKGuy: ask better questions, don't make us dig for 10 minutes to get the real question out of you. |
| 03:14.31 | vhaarr | include code. |
| 03:15.11 | DARKGuy | Ok ok sorry :/ |
| 03:15.30 | DARKGuy | Well ok this is my current code |
| 03:16.26 | DARKGuy | http://ace.pastey.net/87948 |
| 03:17.30 | DARKGuy | there isn't any table with the loot already defined so I have to "loop" through the loot (yay it rhymes xD) manually |
| 03:17.40 | vhaarr | that's horrible |
| 03:17.48 | vhaarr | but you should do the whole thing differntly |
| 03:18.04 | vhaarr | self.db.char.items should be a keyed table with the item name as the key |
| 03:18.34 | Gnarfoz | yay omg. our second MT just posted that he's calling quits for now because of the scrubs who hinder our progress =[ |
| 03:18.42 | vhaarr | and then you could just do |for i = 1, GetNumLootItems() do local _, name = GetLootSlotInfo(i); if self.db.char.items[name] then LootSlot(i) end end; |
| 03:18.47 | DARKGuy | vhaarr, like, items = { "Netherweave Cloth" = true } ? |
| 03:19.36 | vhaarr | {["Netherweave Cloth"] = true}, yes |
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| 03:19.56 | vhaarr | and it would also simplify removing items from the set |
| 03:20.09 | vhaarr | since you can do tbl[name] = nil instead of iterate it and remove the index |
| 03:20.20 | DARKGuy | and since it's keyed like that, duplicates won't happen :o |
| 03:20.26 | vhaarr | right |
| 03:20.33 | DARKGuy | huh, pure win |
| 03:21.12 | Silverstorm | well...if I remember right, keyed tables take more memory per item, but it isn't significant unless you have *large* quantities of items, imo |
| 03:21.34 | vhaarr | yes it's completely irrelevant |
| 03:21.39 | vhaarr | you shouldn't even have mentioned it |
| 03:22.20 | vhaarr | DARKGuy: what you might want to consider is using item IDs instead, though |
| 03:22.32 | vhaarr | that might actually save some memory in the long run |
| 03:23.30 | DARKGuy | vhaarr, mmm I was thinking in the user having to input the item name, or something... I've never heard of item IDs so I was starting with a name match solution :P |
| 03:23.35 | Miyaki | And doesn't break your code when running it on a differently-localized WoW machine |
| 03:23.53 | vhaarr | Miyaki: while that is an issue, it's something we ignore most of the time |
| 03:24.01 | vhaarr | Miyaki: the chances of people doing that are minimal |
| 03:24.30 | vhaarr | DARKGuy: yeah, using IDs will complicate your input methods and such, but it will save hassle in other places |
| 03:24.37 | vhaarr | DARKGuy: I'd say get it working with names first, then worry about IDs |
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| 03:24.44 | vhaarr | if you're not experienced |
| 03:24.46 | Miyaki | Well, if the user's supposed to enter those items by himself, then that's not going to be a problem anyway, I guess |
| 03:24.47 | hypetech | is Proximo in the SVN the new Proximo2 version? Or is that different? |
| 03:24.51 | DARKGuy | vhaarr, at all, for now :P |
| 03:25.04 | DARKGuy | doesn't an item link work? |
| 03:25.15 | vhaarr | Miyaki: sure it is, if he restarts WoW in another language |
| 03:25.19 | DARKGuy | mmm no, nvm. |
| 03:25.34 | DARKGuy | vhaarr, but that's not possible unless you reinstall wow |
| 03:25.35 | DARKGuy | o.O |
| 03:25.38 | vhaarr | yes it is |
| 03:25.51 | vhaarr | but we don't care, noone cares |
| 03:25.54 | vhaarr | forget it |
| 03:27.21 | DARKGuy | mmmm okay o.O... |
| 03:27.32 | DARKGuy | but I'd love to know how do I change my language XD |
| 03:27.39 | vhaarr | you install language packs |
| 03:28.17 | breser | Anyone know what the diff is between <Size x="1" y="2" /> and <Size><AbsDimension x="1" y="2"></Size> is? |
| 03:28.45 | DARKGuy | vhaarr, cool :D |
| 03:29.02 | Madrak | Does anyone know of any death reporting mods other than Expiration or GrimReaper? |
| 03:29.17 | vhaarr | breser: <Size x="1" y="2" /> shouldn't work |
| 03:29.28 | breser | It actually does. |
| 03:29.37 | DARKGuy | Well I'll try the new suggestions, information and code.. thanks vhaarr :) |
| 03:29.38 | vhaarr | I don't think so, then it's your content pushing the size. |
| 03:30.01 | breser | Nope I've changed it on buttons and it changed size... |
| 03:30.35 | breser | So you'd say that AbsDimension is correct and that Size is technically wrong? |
| 03:30.37 | vhaarr | breser: right, then it's the same as AbsDimension shorthanded |
| 03:30.39 | vhaarr | yeah |
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| 03:31.04 | exor674 | also the second isn't valid XML :P |
| 03:31.12 | vhaarr | <Size> is a container element for AbsDimension and others |
| 03:31.30 | breser | exor674: If you mean the lack of a close tag on AbsDimension that was a typo on my part in leaving out the / |
| 03:31.33 | vhaarr | but maybe they have changed the schema in the last year |
| 03:31.48 | exor674 | yah, thats what I meant |
| 03:31.52 | exor674 | typos FTL |
| 03:32.43 | breser | Maybe I've just missed it but the XML stuff seems poorly documented. |
| 03:33.14 | breser | Speaking of which I need to bug cladhaire, found a bug in wowprogramming.com |
| 03:34.20 | breser | The example code in GetItemFamily is using hard coded strings to test for values that give localized strings. |
| 03:35.37 | vhaarr | breser: ClosetGnome uses the same API and has the return values localized already |
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| 03:37.06 | breser | Easier way to do it is to check the equipSlot for INVTYPE_BAG |
| 03:37.09 | breser | Requires no localization. |
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| 03:37.58 | breser | Given that the example code is calling GetItemInfo() and has that value available no reason not to use it and give non-locale specific examples. |
| 03:38.52 | vhaarr | right, I wonder when that was added |
| 03:39.23 | DARKGuy | is it possible to print a key of a table (instead of its value) ? |
| 03:39.35 | vhaarr | DARKGuy: I'm not sure you know how tables work |
| 03:39.41 | vhaarr | for k in pairs(tbl) do print(k) end |
| 03:39.42 | DARKGuy | vhaarr, not really XD |
| 03:39.50 | breser | vhaarr: INVTYPE_BAG? |
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| 03:39.53 | vhaarr | yes |
| 03:39.57 | breser | vhaarr: Always been there. |
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| 03:39.58 | DARKGuy | WoW is my first Lua experience :P |
| 03:40.50 | breser | vhaarr: Didn't occur to me till earlier today to use it for that test to avoid the localization. |
| 03:40.56 | expiation | what else uses lua? |
| 03:41.14 | breser | expiation: Lots of things that need to embed a language. |
| 03:41.22 | expiation | cool |
| 03:41.35 | cogwheel | Antiarc: thanks! =D |
| 03:41.57 | Funkeh` | I think psp games use lua? |
| 03:42.00 | breser | For that matter I could probably point this out to cogwheel... |
| 03:42.44 | cogwheel | breser: reading |
| 03:42.57 | breser | Basically in the example for GetItemFamily change: |
| 03:43.03 | breser | local itemType ... |
| 03:43.04 | breser | to: |
| 03:43.20 | breser | local equipSlot = select(9, GetItemInfo(item)) |
| 03:43.30 | breser | if equipSlot = "INVTYPE_BAG" then |
| 03:43.38 | breser | erm == |
| 03:43.57 | vhaarr | without the quotes |
| 03:44.03 | breser | No with the quotes. |
| 03:44.11 | breser | Function returns the name of the global variable. |
| 03:44.25 | breser | Yes Blizzard is silly, but that's what how it works. |
| 03:44.25 | vhaarr | oh, select(9 |
| 03:44.59 | breser | Yeah 9 return is INVTYPE_BAG which is the name of a global variable with the localized name of the slot you can put the item in. |
| 03:45.14 | vhaarr | yes I thought it was 6 or 7 or whatever the type is |
| 03:45.34 | breser | No type would still be Container or Quiver... But the item type returns a localized string. |
| 03:45.46 | breser | The equipSlot is a name of a global variable so works regardless of locale. |
| 03:46.21 | vhaarr | no, the subtype of a normal bag is "Bag", i.e. INVTYPE_BAG |
| 03:46.26 | vhaarr | that's what I figured you wanted |
| 03:46.37 | breser | Ahh no. |
| 03:46.45 | vhaarr | yes I get it now |
| 03:46.57 | vhaarr | hence the |
| 03:46.58 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> oh, select(9 |
| 03:53.45 | cogwheel | thinks he's confused... |
| 03:53.48 | Gnarfoz | brrr |
| 03:53.51 | cogwheel | can you post that on the website forums? :P |
| 03:53.53 | Gnarfoz | who makes ButtonFacade? |
| 03:54.00 | cogwheel | (whatever the correct code should be) |
| 03:54.02 | breser | cogwheel: Certainly. |
| 03:54.06 | cogwheel | thanks =) |
| 03:54.06 | purl | cogwheel: bitte |
| 03:54.12 | cogwheel | sighs at purl |
| 03:54.16 | cogwheel | ~botsmack |
| 03:54.17 | purl | OWW! |
| 03:54.17 | breser | cogwheel: Not technically wrong, more of a nitpick. |
| 03:54.34 | cogwheel | yeah, but if they ever translate the book... |
| 03:54.44 | cogwheel | (oh god that would be a nightmare) |
| 03:54.52 | breser | Yeah. |
| 03:55.06 | cogwheel | (we've already had it bad enough as it is... so many mistakes in the book are production's fault :( ) |
| 03:55.26 | breser | I'm not sure if that's actually in the book. I don't own a copy. *duck* |
| 03:55.28 | cogwheel | i've actually grown fond of actual content corrections |
| 03:55.44 | cogwheel | oh... my mind mixes book & companion site most of the time :P |
| 03:55.46 | cogwheel | sry... |
| 03:55.58 | breser | I'm guessing not since that API was added with 2.4 |
| 03:56.02 | cogwheel | yep |
| 03:59.29 | ZealotOnAStick | Gnarfoz: jjsheets I think, on ButtonFacade? |
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| 04:01.15 | Gnarfoz | ZealotOnAStick: hmm. anyway, if BF is present, Buffalo uses it. Bad thing: BF doesn't seem to support coloring or color overlaying the textures. debuffs don't have red borders :\ |
| 04:05.04 | breser | cogwheel: Posted on the forums for you. |
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| 04:06.56 | cogwheel | thanks |
| 04:06.56 | purl | pas de quoi, cogwheel |
| 04:07.08 | cogwheel | ~lart purl |
| 04:07.08 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into cogwheel's ear |
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| 04:19.47 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74115 10VisualMail/VisualMail.lua: |
| 04:19.47 | CIA-42 | VisualMail: |
| 04:19.47 | CIA-42 | * Fixed the "Example waterfall" title in the Waterfall config. It is properly displayed now as VisualMail GUI :) |
| 04:26.25 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74116 10Magnet/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 04:26.25 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 04:26.25 | CIA-42 | * Initial commit: Autoloots items based on item name recognition set manually by the player upon opening loot window. |
| 04:26.44 | DARKGuy | Whee. |
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| 04:42.09 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74117 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: |
| 04:42.09 | CIA-42 | CombatAlarm: |
| 04:42.09 | CIA-42 | - Added a lot of options for alarms and the capture window |
| 04:42.09 | CIA-42 | - Reworked the combat event handler |
| 04:43.45 | ruith | hey all. anybody here familar with Magic Marker? |
| 04:43.49 | ruith | the raid icon addon |
| 04:44.14 | ruith | ahh. i see NeoTron here. Maybe i'll just wait till he sees this. |
| 04:46.58 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 04:47.00 | NeoTron | what's up? |
| 04:47.15 | NeoTron | and seems you're in luck as I just happened to see this after sitting and reading a book for a while |
| 04:47.47 | ruith | Hey NeoTron, i'm about to annoy you. cause i got the addon, and i have no idea how it works. So far i've gotten it to mark targets for tank targets, but i can't figure out how to do cc stuff. |
| 04:47.50 | ruith | Also, occa |
| 04:48.12 | Ruith | Also, occasionally, it loses the "skull" icon which is the first tank icon, and i have to reset raid cache. |
| 04:48.14 | Ruith | is that normal? |
| 04:48.51 | Ruith | i'm reading the wiki and the wowace forum on it, but i don't see much of a beginners guide, and i have a feeling i'm missing something. |
| 04:49.23 | NeoTron | documentation is indeed one of the biggest missing pieces |
| 04:49.37 | NeoTron | for CC settings to work you need to configure mobs in the mob database |
| 04:49.39 | Ruith | i was using it in heroic underbog, and i got it to mark my targets with, in order, skull, x and triangle, but there were times when i didn't WANT triangle. i wanted a moon for sheep. |
| 04:49.52 | NeoTron | ie set them to be CC and also check what methods are effective (this is also auto-learned) |
| 04:50.03 | NeoTron | this needs ot be done for each mob |
| 04:50.21 | NeoTron | second thing you need to do is to configure which marks to use for each CC method you wish to use |
| 04:50.26 | Ruith | ok, so after a mob is in the database, i manually go in later and say "when i see mob X i want Y,Z or A CC applied to it based on group makeup. |
| 04:50.27 | NeoTron | and also configure the order for CC |
| 04:50.35 | NeoTron | yep |
| 04:50.50 | Ruith | ok, i can do that. i wasn't sure if i wasmissing something or not. |
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| 04:51.08 | Ruith | i DO love the addon, btw. saves me alot of time, when i can just press alt and mouse over the entire pull and it's marked |
| 04:51.40 | Ruith | i just ended up tanking the ub pulls with no cc. no biggie, but i really wanted to work out the CC issues for later pulls |
| 04:53.39 | NeoTron | it has a cost of setting it up |
| 04:53.48 | NeoTron | I use it primarily for raids, not so much 5-mans |
| 04:54.03 | CIA-42 | 03odlaw * r74118 10PassLoot/ (Constants.lua Locale-enUS.lua PassLoot.lua PassLoot.xml): |
| 04:54.04 | CIA-42 | PassLoot: |
| 04:54.04 | CIA-42 | - Added tracking for number of loot won for each rule and a comparison check for it. |
| 04:54.04 | CIA-42 | - Added ability to fill in zone name by alt-right-clicking the zone edit box. |
| 04:54.20 | Ruith | That makes sense, but i haven't been in raids since i installed it. |
| 04:54.26 | Ruith | What is your preferred class? |
| 04:57.46 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74119 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Fixed a bug that was preventing the screen flashing. |
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| 05:07.07 | NeoTron | I play a warlock |
| 05:23.28 | Ruith | ok. i am in SSC right now, at the first pull. i'm trying to set up the sporebats to be sheeped, but the moon icon isn't going up on them.. is that cause i haven't seen them sheeped yet? |
| 05:23.37 | Ruith | or, magic marker hasn't |
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| 05:26.12 | Ruith | NeoTron? |
| 05:26.50 | Odlaw | set them manually |
| 05:27.04 | Odlaw | err set the cc manually |
| 05:27.24 | Ruith | I tried. in the config, right? |
| 05:27.26 | Odlaw | if you know they can be sheeped or whatever, you should be able to check that box |
| 05:27.36 | Ruith | do i have to have mages in the group with me? |
| 05:27.38 | Odlaw | but i think you have to set them as a cc target before you can check the box |
| 05:27.52 | Odlaw | in the raid ya |
| 05:27.57 | NeoTron | Ruith: sorry was talking to a recruit |
| 05:28.02 | Odlaw | cuz otherwise it'll think you odn't have any sheepers |
| 05:28.09 | NeoTron | what Odlaw said |
| 05:28.10 | Odlaw | and try to use a different cc |
| 05:28.23 | NeoTron | it won't try to sheep w/o a mage, and won't sheep more than you have mages |
| 05:28.29 | Ruith | i did. i have a resto druid with me in my group standing next to me, so i set them to hibernate. |
| 05:28.37 | Ruith | but that didn't go off either |
| 05:28.54 | NeoTron | Is the category set to Crowd control? |
| 05:29.07 | Ruith | Tank priority to very low, CC priority very high, category to CC |
| 05:29.08 | Odlaw | if it already marked it, it might not re-calculate to try to get another form of CC |
| 05:29.14 | NeoTron | and is hibernate selected on the "crowd control priority" page? |
| 05:29.32 | NeoTron | and yeah try to reset |
| 05:29.40 | Ruith | wow just crashed. one sec |
| 05:29.53 | Odlaw | also, are you just trying to mark the 1 mob? cuz minimum # of tanks will prolly force it to be a tank target |
| 05:30.32 | Ruith | i'm hitting alt and mousing over the pull. maybe i should try mousing over the tank targets first and THEN the sporebats |
| 05:30.39 | Ruith | and see if the circle goes up. |
| 05:31.00 | Ruith | i set circle to hibernate in case having moon has shee and hibernate caused conflicts |
| 05:31.01 | Odlaw | well, i would think you can do the bats first, but you'll have to re-mouse over the bats once you go to other targets to let them be tanks |
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| 05:31.54 | Odlaw | tho i could be wrong... i havn't used MM in awhile, and not sure how it still marks things... I went and wrote my own little MM type mod :) |
| 05:33.26 | Ruith | does the crowd control priority matter? |
| 05:33.42 | Odlaw | btw neotron, if you want an idea that i did for my own mod, was i made a test-setup type area, where i could select # of each class, and then add in mobs from my mob list, and then see what it would mark stuff up as :) |
| 05:33.47 | Ruith | on the tab. where it lists the different types of CC |
| 05:34.27 | Odlaw | uhm, ya ruith.. last i checked, i think it was like Very High Tank > Very High CC > High Tank > High CC > Med Tank > Med CC > etc. |
| 05:34.39 | Odlaw | could be wrong on that again, neo might have changed it up |
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| 05:35.38 | Odlaw | it would try to mark whatever it basically prioritizes the icons |
| 05:36.02 | Odlaw | so High CC will get marked before a target that is Low CC |
| 05:36.08 | NeoTron | right |
| 05:36.15 | NeoTron | what is really needed is documentation |
| 05:37.15 | Odlaw | well, some things are pretty self explanatory imo |
| 05:37.29 | Odlaw | the way it prioritizes might need some explanation |
| 05:37.47 | Odlaw | Min# of tanks.. pretty easy to understand :) |
| 05:37.59 | Odlaw | Then again <shrug> |
| 05:40.38 | Odlaw | ah crap, burnt my soup |
| 05:42.25 | CIA-42 | 03kalman * r74120 10DotDotDot/ (Core.lua DotDotDot.toc): |
| 05:42.25 | CIA-42 | DotDotDot: |
| 05:42.25 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:17.04 | Antiarc | cogwheel: Top notch job on the book :) |
| 06:18.06 | cogwheel | Antiarc: wish we could say the same about the publishers... :\ |
| 06:18.17 | Antiarc | Yeah, clad was saying you all had some issues with them? |
| 06:18.22 | cogwheel | but thanks all the same :) |
| 06:19.47 | cogwheel | e.g., take a look at figure 26-2 |
| 06:20.13 | cogwheel | that was a draft bmp i threw together quickly in paint. I gave them specific instructions on how i wanted their art dept. to render it... |
| 06:21.14 | Antiarc | Oh, wow |
| 06:21.43 | Antiarc | well, at any rate, it's an extremely solid book. |
| 06:21.55 | Antiarc | So kudos despite crappy MS paint drawings. :D |
| 06:22.03 | cogwheel | :) |
| 06:22.30 | cogwheel | "Tree of Lifes".... and they couldn't resist changing "abilities" to "capabilities" no matter how many times i told them not to |
| 06:23.46 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74121 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: fix drycode orientation error. |
| 06:24.06 | cogwheel | and take a look at the widget methods on p899 :( |
| 06:24.23 | cogwheel | </Rant> |
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| 06:26.15 | kergoth | nice, the collapsing to the anchor does work, surprising given i generally suck at coding without testing.. off by a few pixels, probably due to the anchor's border.. and of course label and timer text is all hokey, but thatll be fixed when i add support for hiding those, so switching orientations will automatically act like they're set to hidden.. |
| 06:33.14 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74122 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Fix height passed in via the constructor as width, for vertical orientations. |
| 06:34.10 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74123 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: accidental commit of a MINOR override. |
| 06:39.04 | kergoth | Antiarc: new counter bars in a bar list don't pick up changes from SetColorAt's done after their creation, until the next SetValue. but a new timer picks it up right away, due to UpdateTimer. I'm thinking a bar:UpdateColor() is in order in the newcounter constructor |
| 06:39.21 | Antiarc | works for me. |
| 06:39.21 | Diskmaster | Hey, who's responsible for ArkInventory? I have a called hook error to report. |
| 06:39.46 | kergoth | just happened to notice it, adding new stuff to FlashFrames |
| 06:39.49 | kergoth | vertical bar groups, etc |
| 06:39.54 | kergoth | happened to call the methods in the wrong order :P |
| 06:40.31 | cogwheel | Antiarc: fwiw, there's a better rendering (by me) here: http://wowprogramming.com/chapters/26/errata |
| 06:41.12 | starlon | Anyone mind giving this a look over to see why line 126 doesn't seem to get executed? http://ace.pastey.net/87954 |
| 06:41.53 | starlon | I have a zip if you'd rather look at it that way. |
| 06:42.32 | CIA-42 | 03broesel01 * r74124 10Quiet_Npc/ (9 files in 3 dirs): |
| 06:42.32 | CIA-42 | Quiet_Npc: |
| 06:42.32 | CIA-42 | - The Hinterlands addet |
| 06:42.32 | CIA-42 | - Western Plaguelands addet |
| 06:42.32 | CIA-42 | - Searing Gorge addet |
| 06:44.35 | CIA-42 | 03Thaoky * r74125 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 06:44.35 | CIA-42 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: |
| 06:44.35 | CIA-42 | - frFR: "Premiers Soins" is now "Secourisme" |
| 06:45.53 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74126 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Update the colors of a bar list's bars when doing a barList SetColorAt or UnsetColorAt. Timers already pick up the update on their next UpdateTimer, but counters weren't picking up the changes at all. |
| 06:52.30 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07TestAddon * r74127 10LibBars-1.0/FlashFrames.lua: FlashFrames: add vertical test bar, vertical test bar group, and throw a counter bar on the bufflist but with the count progress in the timer label, not the regular label. |
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| 07:04.05 | CIA-42 | 03andyca * r74128 10SpamMeNot/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 07:04.05 | CIA-42 | SpamMeNot: |
| 07:04.05 | CIA-42 | -zhTW update |
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| 07:06.37 | starlon | Figured it out - LibStub("AceConfigRegistry-3.0"):NotifyChange |
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| 07:28.44 | Orionshock | morning all |
| 07:29.02 | Orionshock | need some help wtih table.sort, i'd like to do 2 sorts in one... |
| 07:29.03 | Orionshock | http://ace.pastey.net/87955 |
| 07:29.31 | Orionshock | is what i have. this sorts by "Required Level" , but i'd also like to sort by name |
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| 07:34.45 | Kaaosa- | Hmm. Enabling RBM causes most of my mods to fail loading and I can't figure out why :| |
| 07:37.43 | Orionshock | is on disabled called when reloading the UI? |
| 07:46.16 | CIA-42 | 03orionshock * r74129 10GuildCraft/ (GuildCraft_Browser/BrowserUIv2.lua core.lua enUS-Locale.lua): GuildCraft: Add in a sort by dropdown method. Try not to switch too often, it lags :| |
| 07:46.20 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74130 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: |
| 07:46.20 | CIA-42 | CombatAlarm: |
| 07:46.20 | CIA-42 | - Fixed changes to config not updating when applied outside the config gui |
| 07:46.20 | CIA-42 | - Fixed the silly offset by 1 for capture events feature. Damn you Lua. |
| 07:46.28 | Orionshock | <3 LibGratuity, makes days of hacking up tooltips so much easier :D |
| 07:56.52 | haste | amazing how it saves you from writing four lines |
| 08:02.14 | CIA-42 | 03Thaoky * r74131 10Altoholic/: |
| 08:02.14 | CIA-42 | Altoholic: |
| 08:02.14 | CIA-42 | - Fixed wrong external for FuBarPlugin 2.0 |
| 08:04.50 | CIA-42 | 03Thaoky * r74132 10Altoholic/: |
| 08:04.50 | CIA-42 | Altoholic: |
| 08:04.50 | CIA-42 | - Rollback on FuBar external |
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| 08:20.23 | NeezmoK | Anyone happen to know how to fix KillMeterFu after the 2.4.2 patch? :/ |
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| 08:30.47 | theoddone33 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440988926&sid=1 I win at suggestions forum |
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| 08:33.47 | CIA-42 | 03dodge * r74133 10CoolDownButtons/ (3 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: small changes |
| 08:34.23 | NimbleRabit | What's a good alternative to firefox? All I know of is Opera, is there anything else? |
| 08:34.42 | theoddone33 | what are you looking for in a browser |
| 08:34.46 | theoddone33 | and why doesn't firefox have it? |
| 08:34.46 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r74134 10CoolDownButtons/ (3 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: =) |
| 08:34.53 | NimbleRabit | I love firefox |
| 08:34.58 | NimbleRabit | but it's buggy for me and always has been |
| 08:35.02 | NimbleRabit | it uses a lot of resources |
| 08:35.06 | theoddone33 | buggy how? |
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| 08:35.51 | NimbleRabit | it's cpu spikes like crazy lagging up pages, especially when I try to scroll on longer pages |
| 08:35.57 | NimbleRabit | cpu usage* |
| 08:36.10 | NimbleRabit | it uses 400mb of my memory |
| 08:36.43 | NimbleRabit | I'm using IE right now but not really liking it, so I was wondering what else I can try |
| 08:37.56 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r74135 10AutoBar/ (AutoBarButton.lua AutoBarDB.lua): |
| 08:37.56 | CIA-42 | AutoBar : |
| 08:37.56 | CIA-42 | -- AutoBarButtonCharge Feral Charge added |
| 08:37.56 | CIA-42 | -- Fixed flight form issue |
| 08:38.41 | Arrowmaster | have you tried ff3? |
| 08:40.05 | NimbleRabit | yeah I installed it yesterday |
| 08:40.35 | NimbleRabit | it uses less memory but still sort of locks up for like .3 seconds periodically when I try to scroll up and own |
| 08:40.38 | NimbleRabit | no idea why |
| 08:40.39 | Arrowmaster | ive never really noticed any of those problems you mentioned |
| 08:40.51 | NimbleRabit | most people haven't, I think it might be some sort of software conflict or something |
| 08:40.59 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 08:41.07 | Arrowmaster | do you have smoothscroll enabled? |
| 08:41.13 | NimbleRabit | no idea |
| 08:41.32 | Arrowmaster | and your talking about mousewheel scrolling right? |
| 08:41.40 | NimbleRabit | yes |
| 08:42.03 | NimbleRabit | basically any time I try to scroll up/down on webpages with my mousewheel it gets what seem like lag spikes |
| 08:42.15 | NimbleRabit | smoothscrolling off let me try turning it on |
| 08:42.31 | NimbleRabit | yeah no good |
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| 08:42.55 | Lywellyn | So....I actually found a drawback to jWoW. |
| 08:43.30 | Lywellyn | At least, I think. I'm not sure it can handle RAR files. |
| 08:43.57 | theoddone33 | NimbleRabit: I use flock, I find it worked better than firefox for me but it's basically just a different skin for firefox and more clutter |
| 08:44.12 | Arrowmaster | i dont understand why people like flock |
| 08:44.28 | NimbleRabit | I just realized what might be causing my problems |
| 08:44.33 | NimbleRabit | forgot it was even installed |
| 08:44.42 | Toadkiller | Well birds of a feather flock together... |
| 08:44.45 | NimbleRabit | this program called firefox preloader, I'm going to try getting rid of it |
| 08:45.11 | Toadkiller | Preloaders are evil |
| 08:45.18 | theoddone33 | I'm really OCD about my browser and flock happens to meet all of my requirements |
| 08:45.24 | theoddone33 | so does firefox, I believe, but it was a bit slower iirc |
| 08:45.33 | Arrowmaster | i find that impossible |
| 08:45.37 | NimbleRabit | I've heard of flock, isn't it a "social" browswer or something? |
| 08:45.39 | Arrowmaster | since flock is a bloated firefox2 |
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| 08:45.53 | baer_ | hi |
| 08:45.53 | purl | niihau, baer_ |
| 08:46.10 | theoddone33 | my firefox install was also like a year and a half old |
| 08:46.19 | baer_ | can someone help with "Error: attempt to call method 'FormatDurationCondensed' (a nil value)" in Buffalo.lua and in elkbuffbars? :) |
| 08:46.19 | theoddone33 | because I swear every time I upgrade it something really important breaks |
| 08:46.49 | NimbleRabit | I also dislike having to use FF3 when none my addons or skins work with it |
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| 08:48.15 | NimbleRabit | omg uninstalling that preloader fixed it |
| 08:48.19 | NimbleRabit | stupid crap |
| 08:48.26 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 08:48.50 | Toadkiller | Preload is evil. Apps should take full responisbility for their piggish startup behavior imo |
| 08:49.00 | theoddone33 | I have andlinux installed on my vista laptop |
| 08:49.06 | theoddone33 | so I can use... konqueror! |
| 08:49.16 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 08:49.18 | elite3vil | Anyone know if there's a good replacement for Norganna's Auctioneer that's an ace mod? |
| 08:49.28 | Arrowmaster | no, use auctioneer |
| 08:49.31 | NimbleRabit | there isn't |
| 08:49.36 | baer_ | auctioneer is fine. |
| 08:49.45 | elite3vil | k. |
| 08:49.56 | theoddone33 | about 75% of the draw of ace mods is the ease with which they can be updated |
| 08:50.01 | theoddone33 | auctioneer has no such ease |
| 08:50.04 | Toadkiller | I still have another 3 years to go b4 I look at linux again. Are the UIs still total crap? |
| 08:50.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:50.17 | theoddone33 | it's not hard or anything, just not as easy |
| 08:50.19 | NimbleRabit | I think they are |
| 08:50.37 | NimbleRabit | I just recently tried Ubuntu again at the insistence of my brother |
| 08:50.39 | theoddone33 | the nice thing about andlinux is it uses the vista ui heh |
| 08:50.43 | breser | Not like Auctioneer needs to be updated terribly often anyway. |
| 08:50.51 | Diskmaster | os[diskmaster@polished_ruby, Linux 2.6.25.4-zen1 x86_64] |
| 08:50.54 | breser | They don't update it but once every few weeks generally. |
| 08:51.14 | Diskmaster | runs gentoo on his box |
| 08:51.22 | Arrowmaster | i use a linux clone shell in windows over the windows one |
| 08:51.27 | breser | Few updates after a patch but once it stabalizes out it's pretty rarely updated. |
| 08:51.31 | Toadkiller | All right, I will go the full 5 years b4 I look again. |
| 08:52.48 | NimbleRabit | I'm one of those guys that has tried linux/mac/windows and actually prefers windows |
| 08:53.22 | baer_ | so, what can i do against Error: attempt to call method 'FormatDurationCondensed' (a nil value)" in Buffalo.lua and in elkbuffbars? |
| 08:53.49 | Arrowmaster | update your mods |
| 08:54.43 | Toadkiller | visit the forum and smack the author around a bit? |
| 08:54.56 | baer_ | Arrowmaster: they are up to date, using WAU. |
| 08:55.29 | Arrowmaster | betting a library isnt |
| 08:55.40 | baer_ | which one? |
| 08:55.56 | Arrowmaster | how would i know |
| 08:56.18 | baer_ | how could you know it's a lib then? :) |
| 08:56.28 | Arrowmaster | because its the same error in 2 addons |
| 08:57.13 | baer_ | hmm, good point. |
| 08:57.26 | baer_ | just wondering which one. |
| 08:57.35 | theoddone33 | abacus |
| 08:58.01 | theoddone33 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:58.22 | baer_ | it's at rev 74018, last update was 24 hrs ago. |
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| 08:59.37 | theoddone33 | mine is at 73867 and has that function |
| 08:59.54 | Arrowmaster | the one on the svn has it too |
| 09:00.01 | theoddone33 | this is embarassing and all but I don't remember if lua is case sensitive? |
| 09:00.07 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 09:00.32 | theoddone33 | then perhaps that line is intended to be Abacus:FormatDurationCondensed |
| 09:00.32 | starlon | How do you deal with interacting with Blizz code when it's LOD? I thought I had this worked out already. Now I need the filter buttons. |
| 09:00.34 | theoddone33 | unless it's an instance |
| 09:00.50 | Arrowmaster | its local |
| 09:00.57 | Arrowmaster | starlon: what blizz code |
| 09:00.59 | theoddone33 | k |
| 09:01.21 | starlon | Arrowmaster: Combat log. I need to hook OnClick for the filter buttons. |
| 09:01.29 | theoddone33 | yeah I see |
| 09:01.40 | theoddone33 | LibAbacus-3.0 |
| 09:01.42 | baer_ | theoddone33: are you using abacus-3.0 as well? |
| 09:01.43 | theoddone33 | mine is 2.0 |
| 09:01.48 | baer_ | ok. |
| 09:01.55 | Arrowmaster | starlon: do the hook after ADDON_LOADED fires with arg1 == "Blizzard_CombatLog" |
| 09:02.09 | starlon | Hmm nope |
| 09:02.33 | baer_ | function Abacus:FormatDurationCondensed(duration, colorize, hideSeconds) <-- perfectly there. |
| 09:02.34 | theoddone33 | I think those mods aren't marked as depending on abacus 3.0 |
| 09:02.47 | theoddone33 | because my auto update script didn't grab it |
| 09:02.55 | Arrowmaster | he would get other errors |
| 09:03.52 | Arrowmaster | starlon: what do you mean nope |
| 09:04.48 | theoddone33 | having minorly looked into this, I agree with "bug the author on the forums" |
| 09:05.22 | theoddone33 | since I don't at all understand embeds |
| 09:05.34 | baer_ | theoddone33: interesting, buffalo and ebb really want libabacus-3.0 |
| 09:05.42 | Arrowmaster | no they dont |
| 09:05.45 | baer_ | wondering why that ain't downloaded. |
| 09:06.31 | Arrowmaster | err wati |
| 09:06.33 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 09:06.43 | Arrowmaster | you dont have libabacus-3.0? |
| 09:06.44 | theoddone33 | it's in the embeds list but I don't know how that's supposed to work |
| 09:06.48 | Arrowmaster | and your not getting other errors? |
| 09:06.55 | profalbert | Is there any way to distinguish buffs and debuffs in a SPELL_AURA_APPLIED combatevent? |
| 09:06.57 | baer_ | no. |
| 09:07.06 | Arrowmaster | then you have it |
| 09:07.08 | theoddone33 | ambiguous answer |
| 09:07.09 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 09:07.20 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 09:07.30 | baer_ | wondering why that ain't downloaded as a dependancy. |
| 09:07.31 | Arrowmaster | its a fucking AceLibaray() call and not a LibStub() call |
| 09:09.24 | Arrowmaster | are you using embeded libs? |
| 09:09.36 | baer_ | nope. |
| 09:09.57 | Arrowmaster | so you dont have a Buffalo\Libs dir? |
| 09:10.07 | baer_ | well the directory is there, but it's empty. :D |
| 09:10.15 | baer_ | so i guess the answer is no. |
| 09:10.22 | Arrowmaster | and you dont have LibAbacus-3.0? |
| 09:10.40 | baer_ | 5 minutes ago there was no LibAbacus-3.0 |
| 09:10.47 | Arrowmaster | yes there was |
| 09:10.53 | baer_ | only AbacusLib with Abacus-2.0 |
| 09:10.53 | starlon | CombatLog_OnEvent = _G.CombatLog_OnEvent |
| 09:10.53 | starlon | local Blizzard_CombatLog_Filters = _G.Blizzard_CombatLog_Filters |
| 09:10.53 | starlon | Blizzard_CombatLog_CurrentSettings = Blizzard_CombatLog_Filters.filters[1]; |
| 09:11.02 | starlon | crap |
| 09:11.14 | starlon | Arrowmaster: Sorry. I meant I hadn't tried that. |
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| 09:11.36 | starlon | There was about 6 more lines in that paste if it helps. heh |
| 09:11.39 | Arrowmaster | baer_: LibAbacus-3.0 has existed for a while |
| 09:12.06 | baer_ | i have absolutely no idea, why it was missing and why the errors started with wow-2.4.2 |
| 09:12.10 | theoddone33 | it's under LibAbacus-3.0, not AbacusLib |
| 09:12.14 | starlon | ADDON_LOADED doesn't seem to fire for Blizz addons |
| 09:12.19 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 09:12.20 | baer_ | at least it's working now. |
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| 09:13.55 | starlon | Well I did this: function CombatAlarm:ADDON_LOADED(event, addon) self:Print(addon) end :I never saw anything Blizzard in the output. |
| 09:14.02 | starlon | Just my addons |
| 09:14.50 | Arrowmaster | because your depending on Blizzard_CombatLog |
| 09:14.56 | Arrowmaster | making it load before your addon |
| 09:16.24 | starlon | That was the plan :) |
| 09:16.30 | starlon | I'll try without it. |
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| 09:19.59 | Snago | starlon: Try for example opening the Macro window, it fires not only 1 ADDON_LOADED but 2. |
| 09:20.14 | Arrowmaster | that one is just weird |
| 09:20.20 | starlon | That got it. |
| 09:20.39 | Arrowmaster | what are you hooking? |
| 09:20.42 | starlon | But the buttons are still nil :\ |
| 09:20.58 | starlon | CombatLogQuickButtonFrameButton%d |
| 09:21.17 | starlon | For starters |
| 09:21.34 | starlon | I need it's OnClick script |
| 09:24.44 | Arrowmaster | try hooking CombatLogQuickButtonFrame_CustomButton%d |
| 09:25.11 | starlon | Are those from the dropdown? |
| 09:27.03 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 09:27.05 | starlon | Nah those are nil too |
| 09:27.06 | Arrowmaster | just hook Blizzard_CombatLog_QuickButton_OnClick |
| 09:27.32 | starlon | Hmm ok |
| 09:27.53 | Arrowmaster | since the onclick from the templates is Blizzard_CombatLog_QuickButton_OnClick(this:GetID()); |
| 09:28.18 | Arrowmaster | that way when a new one is created after you hook it will still work |
| 09:30.46 | Arrowmaster | btw i wouldnt make a local copy of Blizzard_CombatLog_CurrentSettings |
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| 09:34.21 | starlon | It's no problem losing that. It's only used once anyway. I still need to go back and clean up some. |
| 09:34.47 | Arrowmaster | i just said that because i noticed that bliz has a function they call that overwrites it |
| 09:35.01 | starlon | ah |
| 09:35.09 | Arrowmaster | Blizzard_CombatLog_RefreshGlobalLinks() |
| 09:35.12 | starlon | I figured there was a good reason, so didn't ask :) |
| 09:35.19 | Kulaar | hmm whats the name of the addon which shows the cooldowns of your enemies in the arena |
| 09:36.07 | Arrowmaster | you could use a local copy of it per function call but a file wide local copy could be bad |
| 09:36.28 | starlon | I'll just use _G since it's an upvalue |
| 09:36.45 | starlon | Maybe that's overkill. Dunno |
| 09:36.59 | Arrowmaster | thats fine |
| 09:37.16 | Arrowmaster | local table lookup is still faster than a global lookup |
| 09:37.22 | starlon | yeah |
| 09:37.44 | starlon | Well _G is an upvalue, is what I meant |
| 09:38.16 | CIA-42 | 03pettigrow * r74136 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.lua Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua): |
| 09:38.16 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 09:38.16 | CIA-42 | - frFR Update |
| 09:38.16 | CIA-42 | - Little bug fix |
| 09:44.18 | starlon | Arrowmaster: Thanks for the help. Looks like this is going to work out fine. |
| 09:53.50 | CIA-42 | 03Thaoky * r74137 10Altoholic/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:53.50 | CIA-42 | Altoholic: |
| 09:53.50 | CIA-42 | - Added the possibility to find an upgrade for an item in the Equipment pane. |
| 09:53.50 | CIA-42 | Simply right-click the item. The items listed are the ones with a higher item |
| 09:53.51 | CIA-42 | level for a specific slot, so it's possible that searching for a DPS cloth |
| 09:53.51 | CIA-42 | upgrade returns healing stuff. |
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| 09:58.03 | Arrowmaster | you know i just realized something |
| 09:58.25 | Arrowmaster | there used to be something with xml that you couldnt do with LoD addons, perty sure it was virtual templates |
| 09:58.40 | Arrowmaster | but the blizzard_combatlog uses those so they must have fixed that |
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| 10:32.10 | Pkekyo| | fucksake |
| 10:32.24 | Pkekyo| | Gears of War dies off every damn time I start it, after exactly one minute |
| 10:35.33 | sacarasc | exactly? |
| 10:37.39 | Pkekyo| | yup |
| 10:37.41 | Pkekyo| | every damn time |
| 10:37.43 | Pkekyo| | one minute |
| 10:38.06 | Pkekyo| | I make a heroic effort to get into the first map and play for a bit, but there seems to be some sort of cinematic-ish thing |
| 10:38.34 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r74138 10Parrot/ (10 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 10:38.34 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 10:38.34 | CIA-42 | - made TriggerCondition-System more efficient (one Listener per Event is |
| 10:38.34 | CIA-42 | sufficient) |
| 10:38.34 | CIA-42 | - removed LibSpecialEvents-Aura-3.0 |
| 10:38.36 | CIA-42 | - introduce new TriggerConditions for focus buff/debuff gain |
| 10:38.36 | Gnarfoz | I'd say unfuck your codecs :) |
| 10:38.38 | CIA-42 | - The Triggersystem now can distinguish buffs and debuffs again (instead |
| 10:39.04 | Pkekyo| | what codecs? |
| 10:39.21 | Pkekyo| | oh, and the game is in spanish, so I understand just about jack shit :p |
| 10:39.54 | Tinyboom | Pkekyo|: mornin, you up now?? shouldn't you be running around half drunk half hungover celebrating? :p |
| 10:39.59 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: mind you, I don't have to actually go into gameplay mode, it dies off even if I just sit around at the main menu |
| 10:40.17 | Pkekyo| | Tinyboom: I don't get hung over, and I reckon I'm still a bit drunk :) |
| 10:40.44 | Gnarfoz | your directshow/vfw codecs... whatevers. like xvid, etc. |
| 10:41.43 | Pkekyo| | what the hell do they have to do with anything? |
| 10:43.05 | Pkekyo| | I -really- hope GoW isn't using xvid to render the entire bloody game :/ |
| 10:43.16 | Fisker- | http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/abstract.cgi/inocaj/2004/43/i11/abs/ic0352250.html <-i see what they did there |
| 10:43.55 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 10:44.30 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: you said something about cinematics. |
| 10:44.58 | Pkekyo| | Pkekyo|Gnarfoz: mind you, I don't have to actually go into gameplay mode, it dies off even if I just sit around at the main menu |
| 10:45.49 | Gnarfoz | dunno. background video in the menu screen. or its something else entirely, maybe the spanish version doesn't like your haircut. |
| 10:46.03 | Pkekyo| | no background video |
| 10:46.29 | Gnarfoz | how would you know if it crashes when it tries to start the video? ^o^ |
| 10:46.42 | Pkekyo| | I don't |
| 10:46.52 | Pkekyo| | I say the game crashes after one minute no_matter_what |
| 10:47.19 | Pkekyo| | then I said that I make a heroic effort to actually play before the crash, but there's some sort of cinematic/intro scene that prevents me from doing that |
| 10:47.26 | CIA-42 | 03bethink * r74139 10CrossRealm/ (CrossRealm.toc release_notes.txt): |
| 10:47.26 | CIA-42 | CrossRealm: |
| 10:47.26 | CIA-42 | - FIX: Corrected an error in the TOC file with regard to the optional dependencies. |
| 10:47.47 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: why do you have spanish GoW |
| 10:48.09 | CIA-42 | 03bethink * r74140 10QuoteNoMore/ (QuoteNoMore.toc release_notes.txt): |
| 10:48.09 | CIA-42 | QuoteNoMore: |
| 10:48.09 | CIA-42 | - FIX: Corrected an error in the TOC file with regard to the optional dependencies. |
| 10:48.37 | Pkekyo| | Arrowmaster: I find myself asking the same damn question :p |
| 10:48.51 | Arrowmaster | its not a pirated version is it? |
| 10:49.09 | Pkekyo| | oh no, no, ofcourse not, I would never do that |
| 10:49.32 | Arrowmaster | if it was a pirated version i would blame it on a shitty rip |
| 10:50.25 | Pkekyo| | sounds reasonable |
| 10:52.51 | Pkekyo| | 'It looks the dogs danglies' |
| 10:52.53 | Pkekyo| | err |
| 10:53.05 | Pkekyo| | is that sentance supposed to be interpreted positively? :P |
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| 10:53.17 | sacarasc | yes |
| 10:53.32 | Arrowmaster | dogs danglies? |
| 10:53.34 | sacarasc | "the dogs bollocks" ~= "the best" |
| 10:53.47 | sacarasc | or at least very good |
| 10:53.49 | Pkekyo| | what's so bloody great 'bout a dogs nutsack? |
| 10:54.03 | sacarasc | dunno |
| 10:54.31 | Pkekyo| | weirdass brits :p |
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| 10:54.48 | sacarasc | *weirdarse |
| 10:54.49 | sacarasc | ;p |
| 10:55.49 | Pkekyo| | yeah, never quite got that, regularily I say arse, but ALWAYS say weirdass |
| 10:56.11 | sacarasc | maybe you like donkeys? |
| 10:56.56 | Pkekyo| | not that I know of |
| 10:57.09 | Pkekyo| | I occasionaly entertain myself by watching Jackass though, does that count? :P |
| 11:02.43 | starlon | lol this bug is driving me mad |
| 11:03.56 | Pkekyo| | let it out of your room then! |
| 11:04.43 | starlon | It's somewhere within 42 lines of code. I'm pretty sure of that. Where it is beats the hell out of me. |
| 11:04.54 | CIA-42 | 03kunda * r74141 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: deDE update |
| 11:19.35 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: ping |
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| 11:23.23 | Nargiddley | [SW]Dodge, whats up ? |
| 11:24.04 | [SW]Dodge | Nargiddley: is there a way to change the aceconfig dialog page from a execute button? :) |
| 11:24.10 | Nargiddley | no |
| 11:24.14 | [SW]Dodge | :( |
| 11:24.28 | [SW]Dodge | no h4x? |
| 11:30.44 | nevcairiel | you can always hax |
| 11:30.53 | nevcairiel | but its ugly |
| 11:31.38 | [SW]Dodge | :/ |
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| 11:35.35 | Groktar | spam problems? |
| 11:35.46 | Groktar | had a runin with nickserv trying to register his nick |
| 11:36.14 | sacarasc | nickserv is made of <3 |
| 11:36.15 | nevcairiel | oh right, we could take that out again for now |
| 11:36.18 | *** mode/#wowace [-R] by nevcairiel |
| 11:36.19 | Groktar | hehe |
| 11:36.23 | *** mode/#wowace [-r] by nevcairiel |
| 11:36.37 | Groktar | i just assumed it would make me give it an email when i registered |
| 11:36.42 | Groktar | and it gave me a syntax error |
| 11:36.56 | Groktar | and then, oddly enough, it wouldn't let me try again for two minutes |
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| 11:45.31 | syeren | nevcairiel, hurry up and finish options on Bartender 4 lazy :P |
| 11:45.58 | nevcairiel | no |
| 11:46.04 | syeren | >:| |
| 11:47.20 | Kaaosa- | plz :| |
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| 11:48.01 | Groktar | steals Antiarc's svn login and wildly edits bartender4 |
| 11:48.12 | Matrix110| | GOD |
| 11:48.16 | Matrix110| | oh |
| 11:48.16 | Kaaosa- | Wildly |
| 11:48.18 | Matrix110| | works again chatting here |
| 11:48.20 | Matrix110| | :D |
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| 11:50.51 | Zyuu | It's been a while since was building addons for world of warcraft and for the life of I can't remember the name of an addon development tool I used to use. I know there is one called DevTools but I'm sure there was another which gave you useful information about the item/frame where the cursor is. |
| 11:50.54 | Zyuu | anyone remember? |
| 11:51.05 | nevcairiel | ~devtools |
| 11:51.06 | purl | Iriel's DevTools, a highly useful set of debugging tools for developers on WoW. Found at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3999 Why isn't it in the default client yet? |
| 11:51.20 | nevcairiel | that gives you all ifno about frames you need .P |
| 11:51.48 | Groktar | deletes nevcairiel english language files and replaces them with french |
| 11:52.08 | Zyuu | lol |
| 11:52.09 | Zyuu | thanks |
| 11:52.09 | purl | Zyuu: sure thing |
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| 11:52.57 | nevcairiel | ~lart Groktar |
| 11:52.57 | purl | takes out Groktar with the trash |
| 11:53.20 | Zyuu | there's no other one though? |
| 11:53.58 | nevcairiel | WhereIsMyCow gives you some information about frames, including attributes like state and such |
| 11:54.01 | nevcairiel | but never tried it |
| 11:55.03 | Zyuu | thanks |
| 11:55.03 | purl | de rien, Zyuu |
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| 11:56.16 | nevcairiel | since when does purl react on every thanks |
| 11:56.20 | nevcairiel | thnaks |
| 11:56.24 | nevcairiel | thanks |
| 11:56.24 | purl | bitte, nevcairiel |
| 11:56.30 | Olison | Thanks |
| 11:56.30 | purl | pas de quoi, Olison |
| 11:56.34 | Olison | SU :< |
| 11:59.11 | Gagorian | thanks |
| 11:59.11 | purl | Gagorian: my pleasure |
| 11:59.17 | Gagorian | :C |
| 12:00.27 | Snago | botsnack |
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| 12:05.35 | Hjalte | Antiarc: Omen was hidden today in heroic MgT, when selecting "hide in party", but "show in dungeons" |
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| 12:06.58 | Madrak | I'm interested in some developer opinion on this idea I have been having. |
| 12:07.23 | Madrak | But you're all AFK :P |
| 12:07.25 | Hjalte | I'm not a developer, but fire away |
| 12:07.32 | Gnarfoz | ~asktoask |
| 12:07.33 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 12:07.44 | Gnarfoz | (this factoid can NOT be overused. :D) |
| 12:08.15 | Madrak | Nah, I was just making sure people were at the screen :) Here goes-- FramesLib. Would it be used if I made it? |
| 12:08.59 | Madrak | I was thinking of a very "what you see is what you get" impelmentation, with 75-90% of the decisions made for them |
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| 12:09.28 | Madrak | For the extremely lazy or starting mod developer who just wants to get some windows out up and running, and isn't too picky about what they look like |
| 12:10.00 | Madrak | So the real question is, would anyone use it? Is there even a demand for this kind of thing? |
| 12:10.24 | nevcairiel | devs like that should use the UI Designer apps that are around, and create xml stuff |
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| 12:11.36 | Madrak | nevcairiel: So if thats what they do, then I take it no, nobody would use it then |
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| 12:12.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah nobody would use it |
| 12:12.16 | nevcairiel | well those apps are pretty easy to use |
| 12:12.26 | nevcairiel | just click and point ,and you have a UI |
| 12:12.31 | nevcairiel | not perfect code and all |
| 12:12.33 | nevcairiel | but it works |
| 12:13.10 | Madrak | I've never seen any of those tools, but then again I've always made my own frames from scratch |
| 12:13.30 | Madrak | ....for better or worse... |
| 12:15.13 | Fisker- | runs over nevcairiel |
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| 12:19.18 | NimbleRabit | why do I keep seeing so much talk about jWoWUpdater? |
| 12:19.33 | NimbleRabit | is something suddenly wrong with WAU? It seems fine to me |
| 12:19.57 | Madrak | Java hype still going till this day? (/cynicism) |
| 12:20.54 | Kaaosa- | Java hype will never die |
| 12:20.59 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74142 10CombatAlarm/ (CombatAlarm.lua CombatAlarm.toc): CombatAlarm: Squash a bug, create another. Squashed that one, so much for the features. |
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| 12:22.03 | Gnarfoz | NimbleRabit: I guess the forum thread with sexy screenshots helped |
| 12:23.25 | CIA-42 | 03gamefaq * r74143 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: BigWigs: Added deDE Translation for Muru |
| 12:25.07 | Groktar | i sent a guy 40 shiny fish scales |
| 12:25.13 | Groktar | all separately |
| 12:25.22 | Gnarfoz | how kind of you |
| 12:25.22 | Groktar | and then he mails me 20 blacksmith hammers |
| 12:25.34 | Hjalte | NimbleRabit: The reasons I've chosen jWU over WAU, is because jWU seems to handle externals much better, deleting the ones I don't need + enabling me to get the addons off of wowinterface and curse that I use. |
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| 12:25.36 | Groktar | would rather have the scales than the hammers |
| 12:25.43 | Groktar | at least the scales stack! |
| 12:25.54 | Gnarfoz | I'd rather not have either |
| 12:29.10 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74144 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Foul debug message begone |
| 12:29.17 | Groktar | hehe |
| 12:30.12 | Groktar | omg |
| 12:30.32 | Groktar | /2 who wants 60 shiny fish scales? i'll mail them FREE! |
| 12:30.38 | Groktar | and i got two tells... |
| 12:30.46 | Groktar | from a priest and hunter |
| 12:31.13 | Matrix110 | maybe they got alts? |
| 12:32.51 | Madrak | Groktar: Mail them an engineering bomb :) |
| 12:33.10 | Madrak | Groktar: From an account called Kazinsky (sp?) |
| 12:36.02 | Groktar | hehe |
| 12:36.19 | Groktar | i have no idea |
| 12:36.22 | Groktar | i logged |
| 12:36.32 | Groktar | ugh |
| 12:36.35 | Groktar | the low tonight |
| 12:36.38 | Groktar | was 75f |
| 12:36.40 | Groktar | w t f |
| 12:37.08 | Groktar | had my window wide open all night and my room barely cooled :( |
| 12:37.41 | Madrak | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDsIFspVzfI |
| 12:37.48 | Madrak | There ya go Groktar :P |
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| 12:38.32 | CIA-42 | 03daviesh * r74145 10AtlasLoot/Instances/instances.en.lua: |
| 12:38.32 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:38.32 | CIA-42 | - Sunwell fix |
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| 12:48.43 | CIA-42 | 03next96 * r74146 10BetterInbox/ (BetterInbox.toc locale/koKR.lua): |
| 12:48.43 | CIA-42 | BetterInbox : |
| 12:48.43 | CIA-42 | - Add locale koKR (by junstein) |
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| 12:51.02 | charon | Xinhuan: good catch in r74101 (and/or precedence) |
| 12:51.40 | Xinhuan | silliest bug i've seen |
| 12:52.06 | Groktar | just finished watching the lakers/jazz game |
| 12:52.08 | Groktar | is happy |
| 12:52.58 | Hjalte | Stumbleupon is down :( |
| 12:57.56 | [SW]Dodge | nice... "error in error handling" :D |
| 12:59.03 | Vonhinten | How do view what changes a revision had in it... do you guys just use SVN tools, or is there a web interface? |
| 12:59.33 | [SW]Dodge | fish.wowace.com or logs in tortoise svn :> |
| 12:59.47 | [SW]Dodge | (if that is what you want to know, not sure ^^) |
| 13:00.36 | charon | Xinhuan: actually, i think the chatter issue i patched yesterday or so was sillier. evl had added a plain 'if ... return end' in a function that previously had only one code path that returned a string. way to go! :p |
| 13:00.42 | mikma | how can i pick up an item (in this case, Riding Crop) and place it on the first/second trinketslot? |
| 13:01.09 | Vonhinten | ah, fisheye will do, thanks |
| 13:01.17 | Arrowmaster | with /equipslot |
| 13:01.41 | [SW]Dodge | mikma: http://www.wowwiki.com/API#Item_Functions |
| 13:01.42 | mikma | what about in lua? |
| 13:01.50 | Arrowmaster | use whatever equipslot calls |
| 13:02.06 | Arrowmaster | its not protected even though equipslot is considered a secure slash command |
| 13:02.07 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.09 | mikma | whops :) |
| 13:02.13 | [SW]Dodge | :> |
| 13:02.14 | mikma | EquipItemByName("name" [,slot]) <- |
| 13:02.34 | Vonhinten | r74101 is exactly why I always explicitly bracket logical code |
| 13:02.51 | mikma | i wonder when will we get the new versions of riding crop etc |
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| 13:03.04 | Arrowmaster | the enchant one? |
| 13:03.28 | mikma | ya |
| 13:03.35 | Arrowmaster | i doubt we ever do |
| 13:03.45 | FtH|Daemona | what was the command again to increase the tab target range? |
| 13:04.19 | mikma | ain't that "protected" now? |
| 13:04.43 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 13:04.43 | FtH|Daemona | dunno |
| 13:05.00 | Arrowmaster | mines still set to 50 yards |
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| 13:07.43 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: pff silly parenthese, i would have just move the srcFlag one to be first.... |
| 13:07.58 | Beherit | hi there, i got one question concerning arrays. i got an an array with lets say players {1,2,3,4,5} and each of those players should have an aura array as the value |
| 13:08.34 | Beherit | so my problem is that this doenst seem to work correct cause of i cant access the auras array |
| 13:10.09 | Vonhinten | pastey a code example of the problem |
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| 13:12.54 | Beherit | http://ace.pastey.net/87963 |
| 13:13.17 | Beherit | oh damn i missed the , |
| 13:13.30 | Beherit | so i know between array entrys there needs to be a , |
| 13:14.29 | [SW]Dodge | damn yea xD i found a way to H4X aceconfig dialog! :> |
| 13:15.03 | starlon | How do you open to a specific group? |
| 13:15.27 | [SW]Dodge | starlon: i? |
| 13:15.38 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r74147 10BigWigs_Azeroth/Emeriss.lua: BigWigs_Azeroth: bugfix deDE |
| 13:15.45 | Beherit | Vonhinten any notes? |
| 13:16.04 | Vonhinten | By "not working" what do you mean? |
| 13:16.10 | starlon | [SW]Dodge: I don't know what that means. Index of what? |
| 13:16.17 | Beherit | that i cant access the aura array |
| 13:16.18 | vhaarr | Beherit: the second loop should be iterated with 'ipairs' |
| 13:16.32 | [SW]Dodge | starlon: huh? |
| 13:16.34 | vhaarr | for i, value in ipairs(v) do |
| 13:16.44 | [SW]Dodge | is confused |
| 13:16.48 | starlon | too |
| 13:16.53 | Beherit | okay will take a try |
| 13:17.09 | starlon | so what's the hax? |
| 13:17.45 | [SW]Dodge | starlon: i got it to open another "page" in aceConfigDialog3 manually |
| 13:17.46 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 13:18.03 | starlon | That's sort of what I'm trying to do I think. |
| 13:18.49 | [SW]Dodge | i clcik on my "add" button that creates a new "page" and tehn i open it directly :> |
| 13:18.59 | [SW]Dodge | click* then* |
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| 13:19.38 | [SW]Dodge | now i think i have to find a way to make that hack more dynamic :D |
| 13:19.39 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: not like the pairs wouldnt work.. ;) |
| 13:19.57 | starlon | Yeah I'm pretty sure that's what I was going to work on. |
| 13:20.50 | starlon | I'm adding alarms to CombatAlarm from the combat log. Then I'd like the config dialog to open to that alarm. |
| 13:20.59 | starlon | basically |
| 13:21.10 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: ah right, I just looked for something slightly wrong and blurted it out |
| 13:21.26 | Beherit | vhaarr thank your works |
| 13:21.32 | [SW]Dodge | starlon: should be possible with that hack too =) |
| 13:21.39 | starlon | cool :) |
| 13:22.03 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: depends what variable he used inside the second loop I guess |
| 13:22.50 | [SW]Dodge | starlon: http://ace.pastey.net/87964 <- thats the basic ;) |
| 13:23.37 | [SW]Dodge | you may need to do more selectedgroup = "..." calls to guide ACD to your page :) |
| 13:24.53 | starlon | Hehe cool |
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| 13:26.12 | CIA-42 | 03bam * r74148 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 13:26.12 | CIA-42 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 13:26.12 | CIA-42 | - Price updates. |
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| 13:31.59 | CIA-42 | 03rabbit * r74149 10Sort/: Sort: Addon removed as requested by the author. |
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| 13:41.10 | CIA-42 | 03adirelle 07v2 * r74150 10RBM/RBM_PvPWatch/RBM_PvPWatch.lua: RBM_PvPWatch: having it working with non-english clients. |
| 13:41.16 | CIA-42 | 03adirelle 07v2 * r74151 10RBM/RBM/Locales/Locales.lua: RBM: fixed error in Locales with non-english clients. |
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| 13:50.44 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r74152 10Parrot/ (Data/Auras.lua Locales/ParrotLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 13:50.44 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 13:50.44 | CIA-42 | - Buff active/inactive Conditions should work again |
| 13:50.44 | CIA-42 | - added Target/Focus buff/debuff fade to TriggerConditions |
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| 13:53.19 | hydrogen | http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5guuJSJjnKnziggp5XSMeRWMTpzggD90L3MLG0 |
| 13:53.22 | hydrogen | the dark side always wins |
| 13:53.24 | hydrogen | =( |
| 13:53.44 | Bangerz | Sooo, i wonder if someone smart can help me |
| 13:54.03 | [Liquidor] | Do addons have a direct download link without the revision in it? (so I can use it as a static link in a post) |
| 13:54.12 | Bangerz | Trying to rewrite my mod as ace3, but keep getting "AceDB-3.0" embed not supported |
| 13:54.28 | vhaarr | http://files.wowace.com/Addon/Addon.zip |
| 13:54.40 | [Liquidor] | great |
| 13:54.40 | vhaarr | Bangerz: AceDB-3.0 is not a mixin |
| 13:55.13 | Bangerz | but 2.0 is? |
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| 13:55.19 | vhaarr | Bangerz: self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("SVName", defaultTable, "Default") |
| 13:55.19 | Bangerz | because I was using 2 fine before |
| 13:55.20 | vhaarr | yes |
| 13:55.23 | vhaarr | 2.0 is |
| 13:55.32 | Bangerz | that explains a lot >.> |
| 13:55.42 | Bangerz | thanky |
| 13:55.42 | purl | Bangerz: bitte |
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| 13:57.29 | Vonhinten | lol, this rogue tanking shaz and illidan stuff is too funny |
| 13:57.43 | Vonhinten | talk about the mother of all broken game mechanics |
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| 14:10.24 | charon | i hope they don't dare capping dodge or some such |
| 14:11.25 | Vonhinten | They just need to make it so you can never be 100% immune... should always be at least a 1% chance to get hit |
| 14:11.43 | CIA-42 | 03oridan * r74153 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 14:11.43 | CIA-42 | SpellReminder: |
| 14:11.43 | CIA-42 | - fixed expired warning which was no longer showing. |
| 14:12.17 | charon | Vonhinten: that might work, yeah |
| 14:12.26 | charon | how much do you need for mother, anyway? 75%? |
| 14:13.37 | nevcairiel | I thought there always was a 1% chance of being hit |
| 14:14.34 | Vonhinten | well, then that's not enough :) |
| 14:15.01 | Snago | Bangerz: Note you need to call LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("SVName", defaultTable, "Default") after your SavedVars have loaded (like in your OnInit) |
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| 14:17.08 | Dark_Elf | cool irc working agin |
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| 14:25.42 | CIA-42 | 03Vig * r74154 10AssignAssist/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 14:25.42 | CIA-42 | AssignAssist: |
| 14:25.42 | CIA-42 | - titlebar, thx for recount for the round texture, textures/otravi-semi-full-border.tga |
| 14:25.42 | CIA-42 | - working on replacing the event for raidtarget update, by a hook, so only the raidtargetter gets the event |
| 14:26.52 | CIA-42 | 03Vig * r74155 10AssignAssist/ (AssignAssist.lua AssignAssist.toc): |
| 14:26.52 | CIA-42 | AssignAssist: |
| 14:26.52 | CIA-42 | - version to 0.121 |
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| 14:40.40 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74156 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Open to new alarm after combat log selection. |
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| 14:45.15 | trh | hi, just heard that libparser was removed from the svn, is there a easy/quick way to replace the parser-3.0 dependency with a other library that has the same functionality? |
| 14:45.52 | nevcairiel | parser has not been functioning since 2.4.0 |
| 14:46.38 | nevcairiel | so all parser libraries have been removed from the svn |
| 14:47.02 | nevcairiel | If a addon still uses parser, it probably didnt work anyway |
| 14:47.10 | nevcairiel | you should contact the author about upgrading ;) |
| 14:47.14 | trh | hehe ;) |
| 14:47.25 | trh | i'm the author.. i should have a look at the new combat log parsing ;) |
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| 14:48.01 | nevcairiel | its really easy |
| 14:48.11 | balstor | trh you will probally want the unfiltered combat log |
| 14:48.13 | nevcairiel | the new event basically gives you the same information the parser events gave you before |
| 14:48.32 | trh | ah.. sounds good.. i'm guessing a comprehensive documentation is at wowwiki? |
| 14:48.44 | nevcairiel | i would hope so :) |
| 14:48.58 | balstor | mehh it's not great but it's there http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 14:50.25 | starlon | That lies about ENVIRONMENTAL_DAMAGE btw |
| 14:50.47 | balstor | yhea and the timestamp is a unix time from the server to |
| 14:50.55 | starlon | so suffix parameters in that event |
| 14:51.17 | starlon | s/so/no |
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| 14:58.00 | balstor | afk food |
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| 14:58.34 | [SW]Dodge | cries |
| 14:58.34 | [SW]Dodge | again a "it does not work as expected" in AceConfigDialog-3.0 ;( |
| 14:59.09 | starlon | hehe |
| 14:59.09 | [SW]Dodge | childGroups = "select" ignores order :< |
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| 15:00.07 | nevcairiel | thats because the dropdown itself does not support ordering of its elements |
| 15:00.14 | [SW]Dodge | and childGroups = "tab" errors when removing current page + page change does not work |
| 15:00.23 | nevcairiel | besides, drop-down groups are totally unintuitive |
| 15:00.27 | [SW]Dodge | AND it looks ugly with to much childgroups :< |
| 15:01.10 | Vonhinten | what's the dev addon that allows you to write scripts in WoW? |
| 15:01.19 | [SW]Dodge | WowLua |
| 15:01.26 | Vonhinten | thanks |
| 15:01.26 | purl | bitte, Vonhinten |
| 15:01.36 | nevcairiel | man that part of purl is kinda annoying :P |
| 15:01.43 | Olison | ! |
| 15:01.44 | [SW]Dodge | :> |
| 15:01.44 | starlon | haha |
| 15:01.50 | starlon | I kinda like it |
| 15:01.53 | Vonhinten | seriously, what does purl say when I tell him to "eat a dick" ? |
| 15:01.57 | vhaarr | yeah when was it added? it started doing it recently, right? |
| 15:01.58 | starlon | but ~~ is my fav |
| 15:01.59 | starlon | ~~ |
| 15:02.00 | purl | Every moment in which I'm called upon is torture. |
| 15:02.00 | Vonhinten | purl, eat a dick |
| 15:02.01 | purl | ACTION eats a dick and falls over dead |
| 15:02.12 | Vonhinten | nice |
| 15:02.17 | Olison | yea |
| 15:04.12 | Stanzilla | [17:01:27] <+purl> bitte von hinten < fixed |
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| 15:04.18 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:05.17 | Ozguli | nnhn. Is there any lighter unitframes addon than ag? |
| 15:05.28 | nevcairiel | sure, blizzard |
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| 15:05.40 | Stanzilla | oUF |
| 15:05.55 | Vonhinten | what's an ag, is that like Pitbull, only not as good? <innocent look> |
| 15:05.57 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r74157 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua: CombatAlarm: Don't show the captureFrame every time the combat log filter changes. |
| 15:06.12 | nevcairiel | ag is like pitbull, just not that fat |
| 15:06.31 | Vonhinten | I'm kidding.. I used ag before switching to pitbull :) |
| 15:09.13 | nevcairiel | ag should really finish the new version and bump it to trunk |
| 15:12.03 | Matrix110 | whats not finished ? :P |
| 15:12.10 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 15:12.17 | nevcairiel | must be a reason its still in branches |
| 15:12.21 | CIA-42 | 03Vig * r74158 10AssignAssist/AssignAssist.lua: |
| 15:12.21 | CIA-42 | AssignAssist: |
| 15:12.21 | CIA-42 | - changed raidtarget event to hook |
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| 15:12.45 | nevcairiel | man its cold here today |
| 15:13.02 | trh | ~20°C in germany :) |
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| 15:16.58 | nevcairiel | trh: 10 in my part of germany :( |
| 15:17.20 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74159 10RBM/embeds.xml: RBM: added LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0 to embeds.xml |
| 15:17.32 | trh | nevcairiel that's cold |
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| 15:18.16 | Olison | nevcairiel, you're from germany? :o Didn't know that! |
| 15:18.30 | Stanzilla | too many germans in here <.< |
| 15:18.42 | Olison | No |
| 15:18.49 | trh | nevcairiel: which part? it's south here (near ulm) |
| 15:19.05 | nevcairiel | hamburg |
| 15:19.16 | trh | hehe.. the cold north |
| 15:19.34 | nevcairiel | it was all warm and nice yesterday <.< |
| 15:19.47 | trh | i grew up in lübeck :) |
| 15:20.10 | Stanzilla | < munich |
| 15:20.43 | Vonhinten | what time is it over there? |
| 15:20.51 | trh | 5:20 pm |
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| 15:21.05 | trh | or 17:20 as a german would say ;) |
| 15:21.57 | Funkeh` | what does 24 hour time have to do with germans |
| 15:22.12 | trh | it's used here ;) |
| 15:22.59 | nevcairiel | if i had to really "say" it, i would probably say 20 past 5 |
| 15:23.09 | trh | hmm.. depends |
| 15:23.46 | trh | if someone asks for the current time.. sure... but if i'd want to make a date, i'd use 24h |
| 15:23.54 | trh | s/date/appointment |
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| 15:27.20 | Vonhinten | didn't realize you guys were that close |
| 15:28.58 | Vonhinten | I'm east coast US.. used to dealing with folks from NZ all day at work |
| 15:30.25 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74160 10RBM_AbilityWatch/ (. RBM_AbilityWatch.lua RBM_AbilityWatch.toc embeds.xml): RBM_AbilityWatch: Initial Commit (will eventually replace PvPWatch) tracks friendly and hostile abilities and such. |
| 15:30.33 | Vonhinten | which is tough, at +17 hrs |
| 15:31.07 | nevcairiel | +17 is just -7! |
| 15:31.13 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 15:31.39 | Vonhinten | heh, except their first day of work is my sunday, and my friday is their saturday =P |
| 15:31.42 | Apoco | nevcairiel: are you guys still working on Ace3? |
| 15:31.54 | nevcairiel | sure, when time permits |
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| 15:42.00 | ulic | what's that sight that has all the xml/lua diffs? |
| 15:42.52 | charon | ~framexml |
| 15:42.53 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 15:43.00 | charon | ulic: that? |
| 15:43.16 | ulic | wowcompares is what they moved it to, cool, thanks. |
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| 15:44.15 | DARKGuy | morning :) |
| 15:48.35 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74161 10RBM_AbilityWatch/: |
| 15:48.35 | CIA-42 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 15:48.35 | CIA-42 | -Added externals. |
| 15:50.23 | CIA-42 | 03seppyk * r74162 10HeadCount/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:50.23 | CIA-42 | HeadCount: |
| 15:50.23 | CIA-42 | - Initial code cleanup/refactoring. |
| 15:50.23 | CIA-42 | - Fixed defect where UI frame was sometimes not refreshing after a loot query. |
| 15:50.23 | CIA-42 | - Added toggle for battleground tracking. |
| 15:50.24 | CIA-42 | - Added phpBB export (Credit: impish | nogudnik) |
| 15:50.26 | CIA-42 | 03borlox * r74163 10/branches/Raindrop/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:50.27 | Vonhinten | blizz needs to change the assassin alchemy stone bonus from mana/health to like 200% effectiveness from elixirs |
| 15:50.30 | CIA-42 | Raindrop: |
| 15:50.32 | CIA-42 | - A AceGUI-Dropdown replacement and possible base for AceConfigDropdown-3.0 (see http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-161) |
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| 16:06.23 | Vonhinten | Is there any reason to use frame xml over just coding it? |
| 16:07.17 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:07.26 | nevcairiel | its a matter of personal preference |
| 16:07.37 | Vonhinten | well, that settles that.. screw the xml |
| 16:07.42 | hypetech | heh |
| 16:08.02 | CIA-42 | 03borlox 07Borlox * r74164 10Raindrop/ (AceGUIWidget-DropDown-Items.lua AceGUIWidget-DropDown.lua): |
| 16:08.02 | CIA-42 | Raindrop: |
| 16:08.02 | CIA-42 | - added new 'count' style (using AceGUI:GetNextWidgetNum()) |
| 16:08.10 | hypetech | what's raindrop do? |
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| 16:09.30 | stew_a | dropdown lib according to the previous commit |
| 16:10.31 | nevcairiel | the name is obviously based on dewdrop .. a big dewdrop is a raindrop :P |
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| 16:15.34 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74165 10Magnet/ (Localization/enUS.lua Localization/esES.lua Magnet.lua noext): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:15.34 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 16:15.34 | CIA-42 | * Made it so the item list and loot list can be compared in lower case. |
| 16:15.34 | CIA-42 | Netherweave Cloth isn't the same as netherweave cloth. And since the user is the |
| 16:15.34 | CIA-42 | one responsible for the input of the item names, this way is more error-prone. |
| 16:15.36 | CIA-42 | * Updated locales (enUS & esES) as needed. |
| 16:15.38 | CIA-42 | * Added noext file. |
| 16:15.42 | CIA-42 | 03seppyk * r74166 10HeadCount/locale/en_US.lua: |
| 16:15.44 | CIA-42 | HeadCount: |
| 16:15.46 | CIA-42 | - Version update |
| 16:16.23 | CIA-42 | 03seppyk * r74167 10HeadCount/HeadCount.toc: |
| 16:16.23 | CIA-42 | HeadCount: |
| 16:16.23 | CIA-42 | - Version update |
| 16:23.16 | hypetech | random useful mods that don't have wikis make me sad :( |
| 16:24.09 | DARKGuy | I'll make wiki of my addons when they're more usable and stable! |
| 16:24.22 | DARKGuy | ... though wikis without screenshots = pure /facepalm |
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| 16:28.50 | DARKGuy | I heard there was a recent change with the money strings and globals. Does anybody have any reference on that? |
| 16:31.10 | CIA-42 | 03borlox 07Borlox * r74168 10Raindrop/AceGUIWidget-DropDown.lua: |
| 16:31.10 | CIA-42 | Raindrop: |
| 16:31.10 | CIA-42 | - !DRYCODED! |
| 16:31.10 | CIA-42 | - added multiselect support to the dropdown widget (use dropdown:SetMultiselect(true)) |
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| 16:34.15 | hypetech | omg dryhumped |
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| 16:42.47 | chiper | what the fuck. something is breaking my flightmap window, I cant fly anywhere |
| 16:43.06 | Vonhinten | you're not the first one to complain about that |
| 16:43.32 | chiper | well that's reassuring |
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| 16:48.05 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r74169 10Parrot/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:48.05 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 16:48.05 | CIA-42 | - Triggers involving Warriorstances work again |
| 16:48.05 | CIA-42 | - added TriggerConditions for Druidforms (except flight-form) |
| 16:48.05 | CIA-42 | - stance- and form-names are now localized by GetSpellInfo() |
| 16:48.05 | CIA-42 | - deDE update |
| 16:50.15 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74170 10Magnet/ (Localization/enUS.lua Localization/esES.lua Magnet.lua): |
| 16:50.15 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 16:50.15 | CIA-42 | * Added an option to autoloot money |
| 16:50.32 | chiper | is there any key sequence you can hold down to make wow load without any addons? |
| 16:51.41 | Vonhinten | Dunno, but you can create a new toon, and set all its addons to disabled and just use that one |
| 16:52.37 | chiper | no, that doesnt help me with this |
| 16:52.49 | DARKGuy | or make a .bat/.cmd to rename your AddOns folder |
| 16:53.19 | chiper | that's probably what I'll end up doing |
| 16:53.41 | DARKGuy | I do it manually, but in Linux that is pure win. |
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| 16:54.21 | chiper | well, looks like this flight master thing isnt addon related |
| 16:54.47 | chiper | vanilla UI, and it's still broken |
| 16:54.58 | chiper | shocking how fast it loads without any addons :P |
| 16:55.00 | Zeksie | is there a mod that'll tell you if schematic, designs etc are known on another character? like the 'Already Known' text in tooltip, but adds 'Already Known on Xxxxx' or something |
| 16:55.36 | chiper | heh, and my framerate is through the roof. that's kinda sad |
| 16:55.55 | Vonhinten | I've never used it, but maybe that Ackis mod |
| 16:56.13 | Zeksie | looking at it now, that just shows what you're missing for current toon |
| 16:57.16 | SunTsu | ~wau |
| 16:57.17 | purl | well, wau is WowAceUpdater, found at http://www.wowace.com/wau/publish.htm - Easy mass update to all the addons you have installed from the Wowace repository, where many Ace addons reside. |
| 16:57.20 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy * r74171 10Magnet/Magnet.lua: |
| 16:57.20 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 16:57.20 | CIA-42 | * Fix small bug: "attempt index local swlf"... stupid E next to the W! :( |
| 16:57.22 | Zeksie | would be nice if CraftList2 did that, cos it already stores all that info. |
| 16:58.36 | vhaarr | Zeksie: making an addon that builds on CraftyGnomes database to show that info would be like 4 lines of code |
| 16:58.55 | vhaarr | perhaps I could add it |
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| 16:59.06 | Zeksie | you'd be like... my hero or something ;) |
| 16:59.52 | Elovud | Hello - just thought I would check here to see if anyone knew of a new release forthcoming for Ace2 or 3? |
| 17:00.32 | ckknight | not to my knowledge |
| 17:00.32 | chiper | it doesnt really work that way |
| 17:00.41 | ckknight | is it even necessary? |
| 17:00.52 | Hjalte | A warrior is telling me to "shut up and not tell him how to play" when I suggested him and his offtank, both warriors, kept up demo shout and TC on the bear boss of ZA with 1 healer disconnected. |
| 17:01.08 | ckknight | Elovud: the ace project doesn't really have release cycles, it's more along the lines of continuous improvement |
| 17:01.33 | ckknight | Hjalte: you're clearly the bad guy in this situation. |
| 17:01.42 | Zeksie | yes.. less a sort of releasing, Ace just kind of, leaks out of the woodwork into peoples addons |
| 17:01.44 | Hjalte | ckknight: Obviously :( |
| 17:03.12 | Elovud | well i am getting a lot of errors and that is the core it points to |
| 17:03.30 | Elovud | ever since this last update |
| 17:03.54 | CIA-42 | 03borlox 07Borlox * r74172 10Raindrop/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:03.54 | CIA-42 | Raindrop: |
| 17:03.54 | CIA-42 | - changed dir structure to get a drop-in replacement for AceGUI-3.0 |
| 17:03.54 | CIA-42 | - fixed Multiselect support |
| 17:04.58 | dylanm | Elovud: You're going to have to provide a trace or something. |
| 17:05.17 | CIA-42 | 03kunda * r74173 10GridStatusPvP/ (6 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 17:05.17 | CIA-42 | GridStatusPvP: |
| 17:05.17 | CIA-42 | - added UnitIsPVPFreeForAll() check ('<PvP-FFA>') |
| 17:05.17 | CIA-42 | - added PvP icons (Alliance, Horde, FFA) [use GridIndicatorSideIcons or so if you want more than one icon indicator] |
| 17:05.17 | CIA-42 | - added ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA event (main zone check only): |
| 17:05.21 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.23 | CIA-42 | - changed Grid_UnitJoined event: |
| 17:05.29 | dylanm | PERHAPS YOUR CORE IS TAINTED |
| 17:05.46 | Snago | Elovud: It's most likely an addon doing something bad and Ace2/3 gets the blame |
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| 17:06.49 | Pkekyo|edu | sodding hell...rebooted my comp, and now it won't display anything on the monitor - tips? |
| 17:07.11 | Elovud | no problem - do you want me to copy and paste here or do you have a tool |
| 17:07.13 | Stanzilla | put the plug back in |
| 17:07.37 | Stanzilla | Elovud: ace.pastey.net |
| 17:07.54 | Pkekyo|edu | Stanzilla: I rebooted the computer, I didn't pull any plugs |
| 17:08.05 | Elovud | kk give me a couple and i will post back here |
| 17:08.11 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|edu: I was joking....driver problem maybe? |
| 17:08.39 | Gagorian | Nothing after boot or nothing in your OS |
| 17:12.09 | Pkekyo|edu | Gagorian: nothing at all |
| 17:12.16 | Pkekyo|edu | monitor won't even come out of standby mode |
| 17:12.33 | Elovud | http://ace.pastey.net/87972-3fxf |
| 17:12.43 | Elovud | that was just a copy of the popup stuff |
| 17:12.57 | Elovud | do you need the foo? |
| 17:13.56 | dylanm | Elovud: When was the last time you updated WIM |
| 17:15.30 | Elovud | last couple of weeks i believe |
| 17:15.38 | dylanm | Well that's not good enough. |
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| 17:15.52 | chiper | oh yeah, I keep forgetting I need to update WIM too |
| 17:16.03 | dylanm | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5342-WIMWoWInstantMessenger.html |
| 17:16.06 | dylanm | Clickclicklcik |
| 17:17.01 | Pkekyo|edu | no tips on how I can be able to use my comp again? |
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| 17:18.11 | chiper | finally! I fixed my missing flight map markers |
| 17:18.20 | chiper | deleted the layout cache |
| 17:19.06 | hypetech | anybody know if the healing reduction from blood fury stacks with MS? |
| 17:20.36 | dylanm | Elovud: If you look on the changelog there's a fix for your issue. Some string constants were changed in 2.4.2. |
| 17:20.46 | chiper | so where in theramore is this new portal trainer? |
| 17:21.13 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r74174 10Parrot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): |
| 17:21.13 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 17:21.13 | CIA-42 | - stacking Buffs/debuffs are now displayed in a different event when just gaining an additional stack |
| 17:21.13 | CIA-42 | - Outgoing selfheals are now disabled by default |
| 17:21.37 | DARKGuy | I made a wiki for my addon. Yay. |
| 17:22.13 | Welsh | DARKGuy: Link? :) |
| 17:22.21 | Elovud | chiper - what u got for FP markers |
| 17:22.33 | DARKGuy | Welsh, http://wowace.com/wiki/Magnet :) |
| 17:22.53 | Stanzilla | chiper: in the mage tower |
| 17:22.58 | copystring | i always wanted such an addon! =) |
| 17:23.14 | chiper | stan: thanks |
| 17:23.14 | Welsh | Oh my god DARKGuy, this addon is like my dream come true! No joke. Downloading now! :) |
| 17:23.18 | DARKGuy | me too :p, guldies too |
| 17:23.24 | DARKGuy | *guildies |
| 17:23.25 | chiper | Elovud: what? |
| 17:23.25 | DARKGuy | yay :D |
| 17:23.36 | DARKGuy | Welsh, hehe enjoy XD |
| 17:23.55 | Elovud | chiper: do you have an addon that tracks your fp |
| 17:24.11 | DARKGuy | I need to learn how to do a regex, so I can do something like "/magnet add Mote of *" and have it loot all motes |
| 17:24.28 | Welsh | DARKGuy: Is it just me, or is there no download link on the wiki? |
| 17:24.54 | DARKGuy | Welsh, in Betas, ACE SVN Zip |
| 17:24.55 | DARKGuy | http://files.wowace.com/Magnet/ |
| 17:24.55 | chiper | Elovud: yes, I have flightmap, but that wasnt the problem I was having. WoW itself was drawing the FP icons in the wrong place when I talked to a flight master |
| 17:25.07 | DARKGuy | latest one, it's the one I'm using :P |
| 17:25.17 | Welsh | Got it, thanks. |
| 17:25.49 | DARKGuy | :) you're welcome |
| 17:27.13 | Hjalte | If I wanted to link eg. http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25203 ingame, how would I do that? |
| 17:27.34 | copystring | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:27.49 | chiper | booo, the theramore portal is identical to stormwind. thats just lazy |
| 17:35.54 | Elovud | that resolved my problem by the way - thanx for your help everyone |
| 17:36.30 | ulic | Hjalte: I do believe that wowhead has a nifty little button to push that gives you the text to copy and past. |
| 17:36.33 | ulic | *paste |
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| 17:41.11 | Hjalte | ulic: oh yeah -.- I didn't see that |
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| 17:53.12 | QD | sigh at firefox 3 rc1 |
| 17:55.34 | ckknight | QuantumDelta: why? |
| 17:55.51 | Funkeh` | what's wrong with it |
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| 17:56.10 | QuantumDelta | It disagrees with BBC iPlayer |
| 17:56.16 | QuantumDelta | or, it's probably visa versa |
| 17:56.26 | QuantumDelta | beta 5 worked quite well with pretty much everything |
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| 18:03.57 | expiation | i've always had problems with firefox |
| 18:04.17 | expiation | i use opera instead |
| 18:05.03 | profalbert | I switched from Opera to Firefox because then, a lot of pages I used to visit, didn't render properly in opera |
| 18:05.15 | expiation | thats true, I use IE for those |
| 18:05.17 | Hjalte | I've just got to link this: http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2008/05/07 - You're not allowed to be THAT stupid. |
| 18:05.22 | profalbert | firefox does a really good job since 1.5 |
| 18:05.33 | profalbert | for rendering pages |
| 18:05.49 | expiation | i like to leave my browser open with lots of tabs open as well though, and when i did that with firefox it caused stranged problems |
| 18:05.57 | vithos | firefox has problems, but i can't go without AdBlock Plus |
| 18:06.21 | profalbert | also I don't have IE cause I'm too lazy to set it up with wine |
| 18:06.42 | vithos | i've tried proxy based filtering, but i've never found any solution that's as good |
| 18:07.02 | Funkeh` | I use opendns filtering and hosts filtering |
| 18:07.04 | Industrial | vithos: peerguardian? |
| 18:07.10 | expiation | i don't mind how firefox works but when it doesn't let me load any games or they screw up after i tab out its not really worth it |
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| 18:07.27 | Funkeh` | I prefer opendns since I only have to do it once |
| 18:07.40 | Funkeh` | and I don't need to add every fucking sub domain |
| 18:07.53 | Industrial | but you can bring pg2 on your laptop ;P |
| 18:08.23 | profalbert | expiation: I guess it uses a little more resources than other browsers, so on an older machine that could maybe hurt performace |
| 18:08.32 | Funkeh` | I don't trust peer guardian at all |
| 18:08.33 | expiation | oh its not even resources |
| 18:08.34 | vithos | none of those things will collapse the ad container space like adblock can |
| 18:08.41 | Funkeh` | last I heard it was blocking eset update servers |
| 18:08.46 | Funkeh` | fucking bunch of idiots |
| 18:08.51 | Industrial | >_O |
| 18:08.52 | expiation | id try with just 1 tab open too |
| 18:09.07 | expiation | i got 2 gigz of ram anyway should be fine |
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| 18:09.28 | profalbert | true... strange... |
| 18:09.44 | vithos | i'm just really spoiled having used ABP so long. tried switching to safari and really liked it, but even when the ads don't load they bother me |
| 18:09.45 | Industrial | Funkeh`: how fast is opendns? |
| 18:09.51 | Funkeh` | vithos, if you have a hosts file with firefox, it auto collapses |
| 18:09.52 | expiation | yea, i thought it was a problem with windows at first and did a whole re-install |
| 18:09.58 | expiation | everything worked fine till i installed firefox again |
| 18:09.59 | Industrial | like shitfast-youdontnotice? |
| 18:10.18 | Funkeh` | it boasts a speed improvement, but it was probably so small I didn't notice |
| 18:10.26 | profalbert | expiation: did you try a ubuntu-live-cd or knoppix-live-cd yet? |
| 18:10.28 | Industrial | ok |
| 18:10.33 | Industrial | ill try it :) |
| 18:10.34 | Funkeh` | I basically use it for the easy filtering |
| 18:10.51 | vithos | Funkeh`: do you maintain your own blocklist, or which one do you use? |
| 18:11.02 | Funkeh` | it means I can filters websites like on a psp device |
| 18:11.06 | expiation | im a gentoo fan but i had to steal the psu from my other box to power this one lol |
| 18:11.10 | Funkeh` | which doesn't have any filtering at all |
| 18:11.21 | Industrial | In the mean time; How do I get multiple inheritance without looping super tables in lua? http://pastey.net/87974 |
| 18:11.27 | Funkeh` | vithos, erm let me get you a link |
| 18:11.42 | Funkeh` | http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm |
| 18:11.43 | Apoco | [Ammo]: ping |
| 18:11.46 | profalbert | expiation: so firefox has the same issues if you run it under gentoo? |
| 18:12.09 | Hjalte | "Your ticket has been escalated" means what? - I didn't even get to talk to any GM |
| 18:12.11 | expiation | nah never tried it with that, probably wouldnt |
| 18:12.18 | Industrial | profalbert: s/gentoo/linux/ |
| 18:12.24 | vithos | thanks Funkeh`, i'll give it a try |
| 18:12.24 | purl | sure thing, vithos |
| 18:12.32 | Funkeh` | what the hell |
| 18:12.35 | Industrial | lol. |
| 18:12.37 | Funkeh` | is that new or something |
| 18:12.41 | Funkeh` | seems broken to shit |
| 18:12.51 | expiation | thanks Funkeh` |
| 18:12.51 | purl | de rien, expiation |
| 18:12.54 | expiation | lol |
| 18:12.55 | Industrial | spaling ftw init |
| 18:13.12 | Funkeh` | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 18:13.20 | Funkeh` | ~~~~~~~ |
| 18:13.21 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat funkeh`. |
| 18:13.32 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:13.37 | vithos | lol |
| 18:13.41 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:14.02 | expiation | i changed ur jobsdone mp3 with your quest addon Funkeh`, now plays ff7 victory fanfare for me |
| 18:14.22 | Funkeh` | I have a quest addon? |
| 18:14.32 | Kalroth | You do now |
| 18:14.34 | Kalroth | Grats! |
| 18:14.39 | nevcairiel | i think he means Ammo's |
| 18:14.42 | expiation | yea sorry |
| 18:14.49 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:14.53 | profalbert | QuestsFu? |
| 18:15.08 | expiation | smoothquest |
| 18:15.18 | Apoco | ~seen [Ammo] |
| 18:15.22 | purl | [ammo] is currently on #norganna (5d 55s) #wowuidev (5d 55s) #wowace (5d 55s) #curseforge (5d 55s). Has said a total of 120 messages. Is idling for 1d 3h 2m 50s, last said: 'You will repent!'. |
| 18:15.32 | Funkeh` | ammo is a busy man these days |
| 18:15.37 | Apoco | guess so |
| 18:15.41 | expiation | pretty much the same as questfu just doesn't have its own window |
| 18:15.48 | Funkeh` | he has a project at home to complete |
| 18:15.55 | Apoco | ah |
| 18:16.01 | Funkeh` | he has like 7 days before hes wife kills him |
| 18:16.27 | Apoco | ouch |
| 18:16.38 | breser | Does he get a last meal? |
| 18:17.40 | Apoco | hope so |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74175 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua: |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-42 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-42 | - Added Trim/Abbreviate Options for SpellNames and UnitNames. |
| 18:17.44 | CIA-42 | - Redid spell menus, removed tabs. |
| 18:19.20 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74176 10RBM_PvPWatch/RBM_PvPWatch.toc: RBM_PvPWatch: Updated Toc to 20300 (yes its old), changed notes to not tocbump and that this will be nuked in a few days. |
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| 18:24.15 | Raij | damnit >< |
| 18:24.36 | Fisker- | slaps Funkeh` around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:24.52 | Raij | :P |
| 18:24.55 | Raij | wow ace rox |
| 18:25.11 | expiation | anyone know a mod like ct_partybuffs? |
| 18:25.14 | Raij | anyone know what channel you'd go to if you want to bug someone about xml parsing of the wow *(@&#$ armory? |
| 18:25.38 | Raij | ANTIARC! :(( |
| 18:25.44 | Funkeh` | nymbia, I hope you enjoyed last night, I know I did. |
| 18:26.01 | breser | That sounds bad. |
| 18:26.33 | nymbia | Funkeh`: you know it |
| 18:26.34 | expiation | no that sounds good |
| 18:26.50 | Stanzilla | I heard nymbia will finish the quartz ace3 port soon *whistle* ^^ |
| 18:27.11 | nymbia | odang |
| 18:27.38 | Fisker- | omg nymbia |
| 18:27.40 | Fisker- | you have returned |
| 18:27.51 | Fisker- | throws himself in the dust praising nymbia |
| 18:28.04 | nymbia | lol |
| 18:28.13 | nymbia | <3 |
| 18:29.13 | Funkeh` | nymbia is a busy bee :( |
| 18:29.27 | Fisker- | i'm a naive flower |
| 18:29.38 | Funkeh` | naive, yeah, flower ... |
| 18:29.59 | CIA-42 | 03oridan * r74177 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 18:29.59 | CIA-42 | SpellReminder: |
| 18:29.59 | CIA-42 | - increase refresh buffer |
| 18:30.06 | Raij | :o |
| 18:30.10 | Industrial | haha |
| 18:30.40 | nymbia | amazing |
| 18:30.45 | hypetech | anybody use Joomla? |
| 18:30.47 | Apoco | Ace3 on trunk isn't RC1? |
| 18:30.58 | Industrial | jumps on a fence |
| 18:31.19 | Industrial | hisses at hypetech |
| 18:31.25 | hypetech | :( |
| 18:31.35 | nevcairiel | Ace3 is currently beta, we name the branches like our development target :p |
| 18:31.50 | Apoco | :p |
| 18:31.59 | Apoco | I thought the one sent to trunk was RC2 for some reason |
| 18:32.47 | Fisker- | i thought it was rc1 |
| 18:33.25 | Apoco | apparently not |
| 18:33.27 | Apoco | :() |
| 18:33.27 | nevcairiel | you dont think Fisker- |
| 18:33.53 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:34.49 | Fisker- | then i'm going to be united forever |
| 18:34.49 | Fisker- | with trackmania |
| 18:34.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 18:34.49 | Fisker- | if you know what i mean |
| 18:34.49 | nevcairiel | trackmania united eh? |
| 18:34.49 | Funkeh` | we never know what you mean |
| 18:34.59 | Industrial | stepmania > trackmania |
| 18:36.22 | expiation | so why is basicminimap outdated if its updated 2 days ago |
| 18:36.35 | Apoco | Wrong toc number |
| 18:36.38 | expiation | ahh |
| 18:37.40 | *** join/#wowace Elovud (n=chatzill@19-119.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 18:38.09 | Elovud | hey - can i ask does anyone have a recommendation for stopping spam via an addon |
| 18:39.20 | Hjalte | Elovud: Badboy. |
| 18:40.12 | Antiarc | clad|away: http://wowprogramming.com/downloads/lua/windows via http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440789145&sid=1 |
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| 18:42.44 | Funkeh` | Elovud, are you talking about gold spam |
| 18:43.10 | Elovud | yes mainly - its driving me crazy : ) |
| 18:43.17 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r74179 10/trunk/ (5 files in 4 dirs): .trunk: Basic* stuff: bump tocs that I cared so much for I forgot |
| 18:43.17 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r74178 10Parrot/Code/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 18:43.17 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 18:43.17 | CIA-42 | - Buff-gain-events will not be shown if the buff is already present |
| 18:43.24 | Funkeh` | then yeah, BadBoy will sovle that for you |
| 18:43.25 | Industrial | Elovud: search the forums and wiki |
| 18:43.38 | Industrial | Elovud: do a ctrl+f on "spam" on files.wowace.com |
| 18:43.53 | Industrial | etcetera. |
| 18:43.57 | Funkeh` | expiation, happier? :) |
| 18:43.58 | Bruners | how good is badboy ? |
| 18:44.15 | Bruners | compared to spamsentry, not that i have any problem with it |
| 18:44.16 | Funkeh` | thats a bit hard to answer |
| 18:44.19 | Industrial | Bruners: ... |
| 18:44.33 | Hjalte | Bruners: BadBoy blocks all my spam, at least. |
| 18:44.41 | Funkeh` | Does 'I've never had it miss any spam' count? |
| 18:44.58 | Elovud | i was trying the latest spam sentry and it was not what i was looking for |
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| 18:46.11 | Elovud | thanx for the recommendation - trying it out now |
| 18:46.11 | purl | Elovud: no worries |
| 18:46.27 | Funkeh` | Elovud, BadBoy doesn't have any fancy stuff like /whoing or RP reporting, it's just a basic block gold spam and automatically report it |
| 18:46.41 | Funkeh` | So if you need that I'd use spamsentry |
| 18:47.04 | Funkeh` | I designed badboy around what I needed |
| 18:47.25 | QuantumDelta | badboy is absolutely win if you keep it updated xD |
| 18:47.40 | QuantumDelta | my entire guild loves you for it Funkeh` lol |
| 18:47.46 | Funkeh` | unfortunately in the area of anti spam addons, they are like anti virus software |
| 18:47.58 | Funkeh` | nps |
| 18:48.00 | Elovud | yip i know - deal with that in RL |
| 18:48.10 | expiation | oh |
| 18:48.13 | expiation | ya, thanks |
| 18:48.18 | Industrial | i have an addon that reports any pvp/guildspam in the trade channel :D ripped it off badboy ;x |
| 18:48.22 | expiation | i dont usually scroll down to that section lol |
| 18:48.25 | Bruners | gold sellers have started with manual "spamming" now on our server |
| 18:48.44 | Funkeh` | Bruners, hmm? |
| 18:48.48 | QuantumDelta | manual? Oo |
| 18:48.49 | profalbert | manual? |
| 18:49.05 | Funkeh` | More dead gnomes? |
| 18:49.07 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 18:49.07 | Industrial | "buy our manual to get gold" :D? |
| 18:49.11 | QuantumDelta | lol |
| 18:49.12 | Bruners | maby the wrong words, its a real person that want to sell you gold |
| 18:49.12 | Industrial | hides |
| 18:49.21 | QuantumDelta | err |
| 18:49.28 | QuantumDelta | That sounds unlikely! |
| 18:49.29 | Funkeh` | Like an interview? |
| 18:49.32 | Industrial | Bruners: or do they just use humanly names ... |
| 18:49.49 | profalbert | readable names are easy to generate |
| 18:49.51 | Funkeh` | Or like a door to door saleman? |
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| 18:50.04 | QuantumDelta | though |
| 18:50.09 | Bruners | its real persons that are trying to talk you into buying gold |
| 18:50.13 | QuantumDelta | that bots first line DID throw me off completely |
| 18:50.20 | QuantumDelta | when it first PMed me before I updated badboy |
| 18:50.41 | Funkeh` | which first line? |
| 18:50.45 | QuantumDelta | it asked me if i wanted to buy gold again |
| 18:50.53 | QuantumDelta | iirc |
| 18:50.55 | Funkeh` | again? |
| 18:50.59 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:51.00 | Industrial | Bruners: report them to gm's while you keep them hanging with a stupid story of how you are not sure about the real money transaction |
| 18:51.04 | QuantumDelta | precisely why i was caught offguard! :p |
| 18:51.19 | QuantumDelta | I have bought some pre-tbc |
| 18:51.24 | QuantumDelta | when i was hardcoring naxx :< |
| 18:51.39 | Funkeh` | I just like how they have added art to their spam |
| 18:51.42 | Funkeh` | lke ascii and such |
| 18:51.47 | QuantumDelta | ahahah |
| 18:51.48 | Industrial | gives QuantumDelta an iFail sticker |
| 18:51.51 | Funkeh` | trying so hard |
| 18:51.53 | profalbert | and the raid-icons |
| 18:52.01 | QuantumDelta | aww those raid icons |
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| 18:52.55 | Funkeh` | still haven't had any real challenge to overcome with badboy |
| 18:52.58 | Funkeh` | just funny stuff |
| 18:53.14 | Funkeh` | www /newline spam /newline com |
| 18:53.16 | Funkeh` | that was good |
| 18:53.29 | mikma | you suck |
| 18:55.02 | Andune | OK, so I've been using ArcHud2 for a long time now, been seein a lot of new HUDs lately so I figure there's gotta be something as good/better these days |
| 18:55.16 | Andune | curious what people like.. |
| 18:55.41 | thul | I just use icehud, beacause i don't know better. |
| 18:56.04 | breser | Funkeh`: How's Badboy know spammers, look for a list of URLs? |
| 18:56.23 | Funkeh` | mixture of urls/phrases |
| 18:56.35 | Funkeh` | and soe art filtering |
| 18:56.37 | Funkeh` | some |
| 18:56.47 | Vulcanus | mens i say u. bai mi glod ye? vely ceap. |
| 18:57.01 | Andune | tho I like Archud parabolas and think its really cool that MSBT almost follows 'em perfectly OOTB, the 10% "hidden" at the top and bottom of the parabola's has finally gotten to me.. |
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| 18:57.10 | GitHub31 | mountme: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-34eb992 |
| 18:57.12 | GitHub31 | Don't error out if trinket slot is empty |
| 18:57.14 | GitHub31 | http://github.com/tekkub/mountme/commit/34eb9929f55e1467296de821e93eca0030ecf7cc |
| 18:57.16 | GitHub31 | mountme: 3Tekkub Stoutwrithe 7master0 SHA1-caaa9c0 |
| 18:57.18 | GitHub31 | Merge branch 'issue369' |
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| 18:57.20 | GitHub31 | http://github.com/tekkub/mountme/commit/caaa9c063b639eab47c6b72fc59a7f480d134486 |
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| 18:57.22 | breser | Funkeh`: You still see the line for who it reported so it'll be obvious if it goofs up? |
| 18:57.57 | Vulcanus | if youd still see the line it wouldn't be much blocking though would it |
| 18:57.58 | Funkeh` | breser, it doesn't show the actual spam no, just the blizzard report message with a name, but theres a debuf line in the lua you can turn on to print the line |
| 18:58.07 | Funkeh` | Vulcanus, exactly |
| 18:58.18 | Funkeh` | debuf = debug |
| 18:58.30 | breser | By line I mean the line from Blizzard saying who it reported. |
| 18:58.37 | Funkeh` | yep |
| 18:58.38 | Vulcanus | oh, my bad |
| 18:58.53 | Funkeh` | It modifies the blizard message to add the name |
| 18:59.04 | breser | O.O Nice. |
| 18:59.11 | breser | wanders off to install. |
| 18:59.21 | Funkeh` | Yeah, blizzard should do that by default in my opinion |
| 18:59.22 | expiation | yea its pretty sweet |
| 18:59.24 | Funkeh` | but meh |
| 18:59.28 | expiation | only 1 thing got through since i installed that addon |
| 18:59.33 | expiation | and funkeh added it to the list already |
| 18:59.37 | Vulcanus | spam is hella less frequent these days due to all the shamans XD |
| 18:59.43 | Antiarc | http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00487/picdump_1-12_487091a.jpg - awesome |
| 18:59.46 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:59.52 | Funkeh` | I think that WCM movie really hit off |
| 18:59.55 | Funkeh` | with shamans, anyway |
| 19:00.10 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, holy .... |
| 19:00.18 | expiation | yea thats a pretty sweet tat |
| 19:00.20 | Funkeh` | that looks almost real |
| 19:00.27 | Funkeh` | like £d.. |
| 19:00.30 | Funkeh` | 3D |
| 19:00.35 | Vulcanus | I thought it was real first look XD |
| 19:00.44 | Funkeh` | it's the shadows |
| 19:00.49 | Funkeh` | they have been done, awesome |
| 19:00.59 | Vulcanus | haven't seen any movies with it, I just read it on MMO-C and saw the anthill of corpses when I went to buy a flask on the AH later that day XD |
| 19:01.20 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 19:01.27 | Funkeh` | I just saw the warcraftmovies one |
| 19:01.32 | Funkeh` | which was shit |
| 19:01.46 | expiation | i think i missed something |
| 19:01.47 | Funkeh` | they killed 1 bot then procedded to kill ranom level 1s |
| 19:01.55 | profalbert | so how does that shaman-bug work? I found my Auction-alt dead the other day |
| 19:01.59 | Funkeh` | would have been funny if they stuck to bots |
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| 19:02.08 | Vulcanus | you drop a fire nova totem then log out |
| 19:02.17 | Vulcanus | when you log out, the totem becomes neutral and fires at anything |
| 19:02.23 | profalbert | lol |
| 19:02.26 | expiation | hah |
| 19:03.25 | Vulcanus | and shamans get banned for this, when the goldspammers come back to their keyboards and reports them XD |
| 19:03.34 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, you should use that pic as a logo for omen 2 |
| 19:03.38 | Funkeh` | 'feel threatened?' |
| 19:03.39 | Antiarc | haha |
| 19:03.47 | Vulcanus | god no, I'd shit bricks every time i went into a raid |
| 19:03.48 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 19:04.38 | breser | Now for the test, standing in IF on my level 2 bank mule. |
| 19:04.59 | Hjalte | Antiarc: I don't know if you noticed it before, but unticking "show in party" seems to make Omen also go away, if you're in a dungeon, even if "show in dungeon" is ticked. |
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| 19:06.49 | breser | Haha got one. |
| 19:06.58 | breser | Funkeh`: Thanks this is awesome. |
| 19:07.00 | CIA-42 | 03zuno * r74180 10UnitActionBars2/Config/ (ActionSetConfig.lua StanceCopy.lua UnitGroupCopy.lua): |
| 19:07.00 | CIA-42 | UnitActionBars2: |
| 19:07.00 | CIA-42 | - Fixed multi-stance copy error |
| 19:07.10 | Funkeh` | breser, thank you :) |
| 19:07.27 | Funkeh` | and you get way too much spam |
| 19:07.39 | Funkeh` | I had to sit in shatt for over an hour to get spam when I was testing it |
| 19:07.51 | Funkeh` | The first time I actually wanted to be spam |
| 19:07.53 | breser | Malygos US Alliance. |
| 19:08.05 | breser | Go to a major town, stand around a mailbox. |
| 19:08.11 | breser | They are insane. |
| 19:08.13 | nevcairiel | I never get whisper spam |
| 19:08.23 | nevcairiel | only say/yell in azeroth citys |
| 19:08.36 | Funkeh` | lucky |
| 19:08.43 | Funkeh` | I seem to get it a lot in AV O_o |
| 19:08.55 | profalbert | well the trade-channel got goldspam every 5-10 minutes on my realm |
| 19:09.04 | profalbert | and it's quite lowpop |
| 19:09.05 | nevcairiel | probably because they assume you are not afk when being in a BG :P |
| 19:09.06 | Funkeh` | ouch.. |
| 19:09.16 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, haha |
| 19:09.21 | nevcairiel | i generally dont join any of the official server channels |
| 19:09.35 | nevcairiel | the spam the real players produce is mostly worse than the gold sellers |
| 19:09.45 | Funkeh` | agreed |
| 19:09.47 | profalbert | yep |
| 19:09.53 | Funkeh` | we get some heavy 'dirge' discussion |
| 19:09.56 | breser | "^www$", |
| 19:09.58 | Funkeh` | every damn day |
| 19:10.06 | breser | ^ That one might be a tad dangerous. |
| 19:10.14 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.20 | profalbert | I have to join the trade-channel to get my Primal Mights |
| 19:10.23 | breser | w is a movement key... Who hasn't accidentally typed their movement keys into chat before. |
| 19:10.39 | Funkeh` | breser, that's not a reported keyword |
| 19:11.04 | Funkeh` | the art is unreported |
| 19:11.14 | breser | Ohhh... |
| 19:11.19 | breser | k > 6 Didn't notice that. |
| 19:12.27 | breser | Might want to make a local variable and shove it up at the top with the 6 in it and a comment explaining it so if anyone else hacks on the triggers they don't break that. |
| 19:14.15 | Pkekyo|edu | ok, rebooted my computer earlier, now the monitor won't display -anything-, it's never brought out of standby-mode by the comp...any idea what's wrong/how I can fix it? |
| 19:14.43 | breser | Pkekyo|edu: What happens if you unplug the monitor from the computer and turn it on? Does it show anything? |
| 19:14.47 | breser | And how old is the monitor? |
| 19:15.35 | Pkekyo|edu | bought the monitor late december. when I turn off the monitor, it displays the ASUS logo then goes directly to standby-mode |
| 19:16.02 | breser | ASUS monitor? |
| 19:16.13 | Pkekyo|edu | aye |
| 19:16.31 | breser | Sounds like a video card issues with your PC |
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| 19:16.49 | Pkekyo|edu | so basicly, my GPU is borked? |
| 19:16.57 | breser | Unplug the video cable from the PC and see if the monitor will just put up the Asus logo and leave it. |
| 19:17.07 | Lywellyn|afk | Okay, I know this'll sound off-the-wall, but I thought I'd throw it out there. |
| 19:17.24 | Lywellyn | Your computer turns on, but nothing shows up on the monitor (ever), right? |
| 19:17.25 | breser | Pkekyo|edu: Would be my guess based on what you've said so far. |
| 19:17.37 | breser | Lywellyn: He just said he sees the Asus logo. |
| 19:17.43 | breser | And it's an Asus monitor. |
| 19:17.45 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|edu: does your card have 2 outputs? if so, try switching the cable to ther other one, or just unplug the cable on both ends, and plug it in again |
| 19:17.46 | Pkekyo|edu | breser: still in standby mode |
| 19:17.51 | Lywellyn | sorry, nothing from the computer. |
| 19:18.10 | Pkekyo|edu | yes, two outputs, one VGA, one HDMI, tried to use either connection; close, but no cigar |
| 19:18.20 | Lywellyn | (or if you're using a GPU card, try using the integrated card) |
| 19:18.42 | Pkekyo|edu | no motherboard GPU |
| 19:18.48 | nevcairiel | integrated gpu? you really dont see that often anymore 0P |
| 19:18.48 | breser | Pkekyo|edu: Possible it's the monitor, but since the logo comes up at all I'd lean towards GPU issues. |
| 19:19.10 | Pkekyo|edu | fucking'ell, the GPU isn't even a year old yet |
| 19:19.12 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|edu: you wouldnt have anything else to plug your monitor into to rule it out? laptop maybe? |
| 19:19.21 | Lywellyn | here's my off-the-wall, happened to a friend of mine: Make sure that if your power supply has a voltage switch, that it's set properly. |
| 19:19.45 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|edu: doesnt have to be the GPU, could be motherboard or cpu too |
| 19:20.06 | Pkekyo|edu | Lywellyn: err....I just chose 'reboot' in windows....that |
| 19:20.07 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|edu: do you "hear" the pc boot up? |
| 19:20.12 | breser | lol, I remember spending an hour cursing at a computer after brining it home from the data center. Data center was running 240, home is 120. Forgot to change the switch. |
| 19:20.21 | Pkekyo|edu | that's all I did to 'provoce' the issue |
| 19:20.23 | Pkekyo|edu | nevcairiel: aye |
| 19:20.32 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 19:20.36 | thul | any beeps? |
| 19:20.46 | Pkekyo|edu | a couple |
| 19:20.52 | thul | how? |
| 19:20.58 | Lywellyn | my friend turned his computer on, came on and everything, but nothing came up on the screen. We ended up finding out that he had his switch set to 220 instead of 110. Set it to 110 and everything worked. |
| 19:21.09 | Pkekyo|edu | dutdut-dyyt? (always been ther) |
| 19:21.11 | thul | ior aren't computers talking trough beeps anymore when erroneous? |
| 19:21.12 | Lukian | breser, luckily, it wasn't the opposite :p |
| 19:21.13 | thul | ah, ok |
| 19:21.24 | Pkekyo|edu | there* |
| 19:21.41 | breser | Yeah. |
| 19:21.53 | breser | wee 3rd spam complaint automatically registered. |
| 19:22.15 | nevcairiel | thats why i always have some ass-old PCI graphics card sitting somewhere in my storage for testing stuff like that |
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| 19:23.38 | Pkekyo|edu | all the GPUs I ever had have gone tits up, so I don't have that option :p |
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| 19:24.50 | thul | Pkekyo|edu rapes GPU's |
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| 19:25.54 | Pkekyo|edu | it's not really as much the GPUs as the cooling fans |
| 19:26.06 | Lywellyn | wouldn't that...hurt? :3 |
| 19:26.29 | vhaarr | OnTooltipSetItem is not called in all cases, is it? For example the ItemRefTooltip? |
| 19:26.30 | breser | haha |
| 19:26.52 | vhaarr | And the ShoppingTooltip1-2? |
| 19:27.23 | Pkekyo|edu | err...just hooked the monitor's VGA output onto the laptop; doesn't work |
| 19:27.49 | vhaarr | yeah I think it's GameTooltip, ShoppingTooltip1-2 + ItemRefTooltip that need to be hooked |
| 19:28.03 | nevcairiel | at least your GPU isnt broken then Pkekyo|edu |
| 19:28.58 | Pkekyo|edu | that doesn't have to mean anything tbh |
| 19:29.05 | Pkekyo|edu | the laptop has always been severely retarded |
| 19:29.14 | Pkekyo|edu | connecting another monitor to my tower now |
| 19:29.52 | Pkekyo|edu | ok, seems my monitor is borked |
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| 19:30.23 | Pkekyo|edu | son of a bitch |
| 19:30.25 | thul | then you just have to sell your ass and get a new one |
| 19:30.32 | Pkekyo|edu | with my luck, the guarantee expired last week |
| 19:30.40 | Pkekyo|edu | warranty* |
| 19:31.05 | Chompers | so that WotLK alpha |
| 19:31.14 | Chompers | would it have talent specs to L80? |
| 19:31.28 | thul | Pkekyo|edu: how old? |
| 19:31.31 | thul | need legal advice? :-P |
| 19:31.54 | Pkekyo|edu | bought it just before last christmas |
| 19:32.18 | thul | well, warranty it is |
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| 19:32.46 | Pkekyo|edu | and yes, legal advice is always nice |
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| 19:32.56 | thul | if they say "it has only so and so", you say: "the videospillerjudgement has set a clear presedence, inside the first five years, you have to proof that neglect or misuse on my side caused the problem, or else you have to PAY UP BITCHES" |
| 19:33.03 | thul | i would maybe cut out the last part |
| 19:33.03 | thul | :-P |
| 19:34.35 | Pkekyo|edu | lopsilol |
| 19:34.50 | Pkekyo|edu | the monitor -did- have some previous damage though; will that affect said tactic? |
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| 19:39.30 | Pkekyo|edu | (the monitor DID work post-damage) |
| 19:39.32 | ckruse | Hi. |
| 19:39.53 | Pkekyo|edu | hi |
| 19:39.53 | purl | salut |
| 19:40.33 | vhaarr | Zeksie: http://pastey.net/87978 |
| 19:40.45 | vhaarr | I think |
| 19:40.47 | vhaarr | drycoded |
| 19:41.05 | vhaarr | I'm not sure if recipe links trigger OnTooltipSetItem, it could be OnTooltipSetSpell, actually |
| 19:41.11 | vhaarr | but I can't log in now, so I can't test |
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| 19:43.03 | william_bartlett | Hello im kinda new to this wow addon thing and i downloaded your unit mod, and im really confused on how to add it |
| 19:43.13 | vhaarr | oh, that one |
| 19:43.33 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HORz4U5ot98 |
| 19:43.36 | ckruse | Can somebody tell me how long it normally takes to get an answer from wowace-svn-requests@googlegroups.com? I'm asking 'cause I wrote a mail about a week ago and didn't get an answer right now. |
| 19:43.49 | vhaarr | ckruse: wait a month |
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| 19:44.02 | ckruse | hehe. ok. |
| 19:44.11 | nevcairiel | i thought Funkeh` was answering those now |
| 19:44.23 | vhaarr | a bot could do it, to be honest |
| 19:44.32 | vhaarr | but wait a month and see |
| 19:44.39 | nevcairiel | thats why Funkeh` does it now /me runs |
| 19:44.40 | Funkeh` | yeah I'll do them later :P |
| 19:44.42 | vhaarr | you should have it by then |
| 19:45.19 | vhaarr | reminds me that we still need a bot here and a precommit hook for the svn that checks IRC presence |
| 19:45.23 | ckruse | Ok, thanks. I'll be patient then, thanks. |
| 19:45.54 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: by the way, that movie was the first hit on google for "install wow addon" |
| 19:46.01 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: perhaps that's something you'll remember |
| 19:47.42 | Corey | success? |
| 19:48.56 | Pkekyo|edu | thul: ping? |
| 19:50.05 | william_bartlett | wow that is easy |
| 19:50.11 | william_bartlett | drag and drop into the wow foulder |
| 19:50.13 | william_bartlett | lmao |
| 19:50.24 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: we should purlify that video :P |
| 19:50.34 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: actually I didn't even watch it :P |
| 19:50.38 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:50.49 | vhaarr | but I can't, I run linux |
| 19:50.58 | nevcairiel | it only shows some desktop where a guy extracts a addon and drag'n'drops it into the wow folder |
| 19:51.08 | vhaarr | hehe okay |
| 19:51.15 | vhaarr | looks |
| 19:51.17 | thul | Pkekyo|edu: pong |
| 19:51.31 | thul | Pkekyo|edu: they have to proof that the damage is related to the problem |
| 19:51.52 | Pkekyo|edu | it's just a dent (et hakk) in the monitor surface |
| 19:53.43 | nevcairiel | we have a direct law that during the first year the seller has to proof that i did something wrong, afterwards i have to proof that i didnt cause the dmg .. so if you bought it just about 6 month ago, you should be fine ,) |
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| 19:54.14 | william_bartlett | umm the unit mod |
| 19:54.17 | william_bartlett | umm |
| 19:54.21 | william_bartlett | it is out of date |
| 19:54.23 | william_bartlett | ? |
| 19:54.33 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: you have to assume that we are IDIOTS |
| 19:54.37 | Fisker- | bah nevcairiel |
| 19:54.41 | Fisker- | it's only 6 months here |
| 19:54.42 | syeren | (I think this is a valid point to note that keybindings need removing from BT4 buttons!) |
| 19:54.46 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: include *all* the information you possibly can when asking a question |
| 19:55.02 | nevcairiel | syeren: no, its not valid. :) |
| 19:55.14 | syeren | Of course it is! |
| 19:55.23 | syeren | Nev, I thought of a cool option if you can do it. |
| 19:55.25 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: how could the video be better? :P |
| 19:55.27 | william_bartlett | ok i added the add on from ag_unitframes thats the program, i added it and it sasy it outta date |
| 19:55.28 | syeren | And I will love you :p |
| 19:55.31 | william_bartlett | says* |
| 19:55.32 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: it could have jumping bunnies |
| 19:55.39 | syeren | Can you remove the coloring of buttons if you have something equipped in the macro etc? |
| 19:55.43 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: no rabbits for you! |
| 19:55.50 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: doesn't matter, just check the "Load out of date addons" checkbox at the top of the Addons window |
| 19:55.53 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: tt! |
| 19:56.11 | william_bartlett | k ill try it |
| 19:56.13 | vhaarr | I'll go watch Monk then |
| 19:56.24 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 19:56.31 | nevcairiel | you should watch The Big Bang Theory |
| 19:56.35 | nevcairiel | its really funny |
| 19:56.47 | vhaarr | TV series? |
| 19:56.50 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:56.50 | vhaarr | ah |
| 19:56.59 | william_bartlett | It still didnt work |
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| 19:57.48 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: where did you download it from? |
| 19:58.06 | william_bartlett | wowinterface.com |
| 19:58.24 | vhaarr | ouch |
| 19:58.29 | Olison | william_bartlett: what's the problem? |
| 19:58.37 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: delete it |
| 19:58.41 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: then download http://files.wowace.com/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames.zip |
| 19:58.44 | vhaarr | and try again |
| 19:59.10 | vhaarr | (for anyone wondering, the version on wowinterface.com is r20943) |
| 19:59.18 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:59.27 | nevcairiel | that IS old |
| 19:59.40 | vhaarr | yeah :P |
| 19:59.45 | nevcairiel | 20xxx .. that sounds like initial release or something |
| 19:59.54 | nevcairiel | might even be before BC o.O |
| 20:00.11 | vhaarr | actually the first BC release was around revision 14000 |
| 20:00.15 | nevcairiel | ah |
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| 20:00.51 | vhaarr | I'll download a Big Bang episode while I watch this Monk episode |
| 20:01.01 | vhaarr | but it was made by a guy that was involved with Dharma & Greg? |
| 20:01.08 | vhaarr | I didn't find that show that funny really |
| 20:01.11 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 20:01.16 | vhaarr | according to wikipedia |
| 20:01.19 | nevcairiel | a friend told me to watch it |
| 20:01.23 | nevcairiel | and i liked the humor |
| 20:01.28 | vhaarr | yeah I'll watch the pilot, thank you |
| 20:01.33 | william_bartlett | vhaar is it possible to tell me how to get this one if ace has one simaler |
| 20:01.35 | william_bartlett | http://i.thottbot.com/ss/o/31028.jpg |
| 20:01.51 | nevcairiel | william_bartlett: the HUD thingy in the middle? |
| 20:01.53 | vhaarr | that's Iriels old circle unit frames |
| 20:02.03 | vhaarr | the first working prototype of curved textures I believe |
| 20:02.06 | william_bartlett | the hole thing |
| 20:02.21 | kolie2 | anyway to run an EU and a US client installs concurrently? |
| 20:02.30 | Raij | Is it possible |
| 20:02.32 | vhaarr | kolie2: yeah |
| 20:02.32 | nevcairiel | kolie2: just install both..? :) |
| 20:02.37 | vhaarr | do what nev said :P |
| 20:02.42 | Raij | to sniff the guild data channel for group calender events |
| 20:02.48 | vhaarr | Raij: yes it is |
| 20:02.50 | Raij | and using an exe file (uni updater) |
| 20:02.53 | kolie2 | nevcairiel : the patches on me en install stopped working |
| 20:02.55 | vhaarr | william_bartlett: there are several HUD addons available on wowace |
| 20:03.00 | Raij | to upload those events to a MySQL server? |
| 20:03.01 | kolie2 | says it cant fine the euDE stuff |
| 20:03.01 | Raij | :D |
| 20:03.09 | vhaarr | Raij: no |
| 20:03.20 | Raij | how about |
| 20:03.25 | nevcairiel | kolie2: you need to start the game that you want to patch once, it sets some registry settings the patcher needs |
| 20:03.26 | Raij | when GC syncronizes |
| 20:03.35 | Raij | an exe taking the lua and uploading it to a server :o |
| 20:03.36 | william_bartlett | am i downloading the right thing them thats similar to it? |
| 20:03.39 | Raij | kind of like wow roster |
| 20:03.42 | nevcairiel | kolie2: so start game1, patch game1 -> start game2, patch game2 |
| 20:03.50 | vhaarr | Raij: WoW can't output any data to your computer except when you log out from the game |
| 20:04.04 | vhaarr | but then it would be possible, y es |
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| 20:04.12 | Raij | yeah |
| 20:04.16 | Raij | makes sense |
| 20:04.25 | vhaarr | runs away before more questions pop up |
| 20:04.30 | Raij | so if you sniffed the ports, you couldnt do it eh? |
| 20:04.39 | Raij | i mean its complicated but i was just think about it LOL |
| 20:04.45 | Raij | and not worth the trouble of course =) |
| 20:05.02 | nevcairiel | i dont think anyone _sane_ though about that before :P |
| 20:05.18 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74182 10RBM/DeBuffWatch/DeBuffWatch.lua: RBM: -- De|Buff Watch: Fixed timeless bar filtering issues. |
| 20:06.22 | william_bartlett | vhaar |
| 20:06.23 | Raij | Im not sane :( |
| 20:06.30 | william_bartlett | what add on is like the one i just showed you |
| 20:06.41 | Raij | i want a working easy xml parsing wow armory thing a majigger >< |
| 20:06.46 | william_bartlett | becuase i got thre wrong one then it only changed my bar |
| 20:06.50 | kergoth | durcyn: http://picasaweb.google.com/kergoth/WorldOfWarcraft/photo#5201440108453866162 check the vertical bar group.. pretend that overlapping text isnt there, though :P |
| 20:06.54 | william_bartlett | where my name was and stuff |
| 20:06.59 | Raij | If Jesus could walk on water, why cant I find a script that is //commented !!! |
| 20:07.26 | nevcairiel | kergoth: too bad we cant rotate text, eh? |
| 20:07.33 | kergoth | yeah no doubt |
| 20:07.56 | kergoth | i know, i'll add a font as a set of 26*2 textures! </smartass> |
| 20:08.04 | william_bartlett | vhaar |
| 20:08.13 | william_bartlett | what add on is like the one i just showed you |
| 20:08.21 | william_bartlett | becuase i got thre wrong one then it only changed my bar |
| 20:08.34 | william_bartlett | where my hp and stuff is only changed |
| 20:13.31 | Olison | :o |
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| 20:14.13 | nevcairiel | kergoth: i bet that would be cool for all those vertical-bar-cases .. although a bit overkill :D |
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| 20:14.28 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:14.32 | {RN}Terra | testing |
| 20:14.33 | {RN}Terra | bah |
| 20:14.41 | nevcairiel | one could write vertical by just placing each char on a new line |
| 20:14.46 | Diao | when i login i get 3 messages from ACP |
| 20:14.47 | Diao | saying |
| 20:14.54 | Diao | ACP: *** Unknown Addon <> Required *** |
| 20:15.10 | Diao | but it's not a lua error, just a chatbox message |
| 20:15.43 | Zyndrome | [Bonechewer Behemoth] Meteor [You] 12799. |
| 20:15.45 | Zyndrome | cries |
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| 20:16.39 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74183 10RBM/FunctionEnviroment.lua: RBM: Disable debug function if not me :p |
| 20:19.17 | CIA-42 | 03charon * r74184 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Tests/class/ (. druid.lua): Threat-2.0: touch some files to please precommit |
| 20:20.53 | CIA-42 | 03charon * r74185 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/Tests/ (class/druid.lua test.lua test_stubs.lua): |
| 20:20.53 | CIA-42 | Threat-2.0: unit test improvements |
| 20:20.53 | CIA-42 | - Draft a druid-specific test, so far it tests some feral stuff |
| 20:20.53 | CIA-42 | - Add more stubs and ability to override some of them |
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| 20:23.22 | [Liquidor] | Seriously, swearing is fucking impolite. |
| 20:24.24 | kolie2 | no shit! |
| 20:24.29 | kolie2 | There are fucking kids in here. |
| 20:25.39 | CIA-42 | 03charon 07charon * r74186 10Threat-2.0/: Threat-2.0: nuke old branch |
| 20:25.42 | nevcairiel | did i miss the evil swearing? |
| 20:25.56 | charon | kolie2: i do wonder why they don't fuck upstairs in the bedroom! |
| 20:26.06 | nevcairiel | ll |
| 20:26.08 | nevcairiel | *lol |
| 20:26.12 | kolie2 | hell no you didnt! |
| 20:27.31 | charon | "Substitute 'damn' every time you're inclined to write 'very'; your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should be." -- Mark Twain |
| 20:27.54 | CIA-42 | 03charon 07charon * r74187 10Threat-2.0/: Threat-2.0: re-branch |
| 20:28.12 | Yasuo | hi tehre |
| 20:28.42 | charon | but in all seriousness, i should thank [Liquidor] for starting this. if it wasn't for him, i could never have fulfilled the rule on the wiki that forces me to "space out commits a bit" |
| 20:29.49 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 20:29.53 | Lukian | Make threat numbers show up in the scrolling combat text. You would see big numbers rising from your target(s), even if they weren't white, yellow, or green. |
| 20:29.54 | [Liquidor] | charon what? |
| 20:29.55 | Lukian | haha |
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| 20:30.04 | Lukian | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6440919251&postId=64403118566&sid=1#19 |
| 20:30.08 | Lukian | post 18 @ Antiarc |
| 20:30.23 | Yasuo | is there an addon/possibility to show/view the units hp when interface is deactivated? (alt+y) |
| 20:30.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:30.41 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@77-56-223-244.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:30.43 | [Liquidor] | charon yo.... what? |
| 20:31.08 | charon | sorry, got lagged out. |
| 20:31.32 | charon | the SVN rules say you shouldn't commit stuff in a quick series because CIA will spam up the channel. and you helpfully added padding between them. |
| 20:31.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:32.19 | nevcairiel | its more to get authors to consolidate alot of small changes into one commit |
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| 20:32.38 | nymbia | goes to set up a script to commit each keystroke |
| 20:32.44 | kolie2 | lawl |
| 20:32.45 | haste | joins. |
| 20:32.49 | kolie2 | nymbie pressed "g" |
| 20:32.55 | kolie2 | nymbie pressed "a" |
| 20:33.01 | nevcairiel | filters nymbia from the #wowace CIA script |
| 20:33.02 | [Liquidor] | charon, I'm still confused. Where do I come into all of this? |
| 20:33.08 | nymbia | that'd be embarrasing |
| 20:33.11 | nymbia | all the typos |
| 20:33.15 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:33.28 | Yasuo | ui wanna see hp the when pressing alt+y, is it possible? |
| 20:33.41 | [Liquidor] | alt+y or alt+z ? |
| 20:33.54 | Lukian | or ctrl+v / shift+v ? |
| 20:33.57 | Lukian | or just 'v' |
| 20:34.24 | CIA-42 | 03charon 07charon * r74188 10Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: |
| 20:34.24 | CIA-42 | Threat-2.0: Put up optimized CLEU handler on branch again. |
| 20:34.24 | CIA-42 | Hopefully someone will test this. |
| 20:34.27 | kolie2 | [Liquidor], your not supposed to commit because cia will spam, so if you talk, the cia spam is less because you broke it up with talkining. |
| 20:34.31 | [Liquidor] | It could be anything lua_bot |
| 20:34.34 | Diao | did you change the hotkey? alt-z shoulud be hiding interface |
| 20:34.52 | [Liquidor] | Lukian* |
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| 20:35.06 | Yasuo | <Lukian> or ctrl+v / shift+v ? << doesnt work for me only if interface is actiovated |
| 20:35.13 | Lukian | Yasuo, oh right |
| 20:35.21 | [Liquidor] | Arh well now we at least know what you mean Yasuo |
| 20:35.30 | charon | is afk: fixing router with axe |
| 20:35.37 | Diao | if interface is deactivated you won't be able to have a mod that shows hp.. cause it'll be part of the interface |
| 20:35.40 | [Liquidor] | He wants the nameplates to remain shown when hiding the worldframe |
| 20:35.41 | Yasuo | i on german version its alt+y so it may be alt+z ^ |
| 20:35.58 | [Liquidor] | hiding the uipanel* |
| 20:36.14 | Odlaw | hrm.. GetInstanceDifficulty() is bugged for me.. i entered a heroic instance solo, then exited, set to normal, entered, and it still reports me as being in a heroic with GetInstanceDifficulty().. even tho all the mobs are like 64 heh |
| 20:36.14 | [Liquidor] | I didn't know the nameplates were a part of the interface tho |
| 20:37.38 | vithos | i remember having some addons that didn't disappear with alt-z a long time ago |
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| 20:38.02 | [Liquidor] | Well is ALoft above UIPanel? |
| 20:38.06 | nevcairiel | vithos: yeah thats the addosn fault if they dont parent to UIParent |
| 20:38.08 | Odlaw | lawl, now i'm outside and getinstancedifficulty() is showing as heroic hahah, i love blizzard |
| 20:38.12 | Yasuo | well ogrilatzy and the map (cartographer?) do not hide or at least pop up when needed |
| 20:38.14 | [Liquidor] | UIParent* |
| 20:38.34 | nevcairiel | [Liquidor]: everything is above UIParent :P |
| 20:38.45 | [Liquidor] | treewise? |
| 20:39.05 | nevcairiel | thats why its called UIParent |
| 20:39.08 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:39.15 | [Liquidor] | Yasuo, toggling map sets UIParent to visible |
| 20:39.25 | Yasuo | mhm |
| 20:39.29 | [Liquidor] | Yeye nevcairiel I don't care :> |
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| 20:39.38 | Yasuo | and the hp aboce the 3d-chars? |
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| 20:41.37 | CIA-42 | 03galmok * r74189 10LibCompress/ (LibCompress.lua LibCompress.toc): LibCompress: Added Huffman compression. Changed LZW format slightly. LibCompress:Compress() will compress using all methods and return best result. Use Libcompress:Decompress to uncompress data. |
| 20:42.59 | charon | antiarc, Xinhuan, nevcairiel: what do you think of 74188 (CLEU improvements)? i've been running it for a month now, should i merge it to trunk? or is there any chance that someone will test it further? |
| 20:43.42 | Xinhuan | how much better is it |
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| 20:44.53 | charon | hmm, need to dig up irc logs, sec |
| 20:45.40 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74190 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Adjust for the difference in thickness between bar and anchor when collapsing onto the anchor when the anchor is hidden. |
| 20:46.15 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74191 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Fix unintended commit of list:SetBackdrop. |
| 20:47.35 | charon | Xinhuan: 12% less time spent inside CLEU in the blasted lands test |
| 20:47.46 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74192 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: reset bar.fill to false when releasing a bar, to avoid recycling issues. |
| 20:48.31 | Xinhuan | no harm i guess |
| 20:49.08 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth 07LibBars-1.0 * r74193 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: Add barList:SetFill() to make an entire group fill rather than empty the bars. |
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| 20:50.08 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.26 | DARKGuy | hey anybody knows what's the frame name for the bars in Bartender4 so I can reattach them to a kgpanel ? |
| 20:50.32 | kergoth | Antiarc: why do you offset the lastbar top/bottom by its height, in GetBarTop? |
| 20:50.43 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74194 10RBM/RBM_BigWigs/BigWigs.lua: RBM: BigWigs localization fix. |
| 20:50.48 | CIA-42 | 03kergoth * r74195 10/branches/LibBars-1.0/TODO: Update TODO |
| 20:53.10 | CIA-42 | 03poull * r74196 10AuraCheck/ (. AuraCheck.lua AuraCheck.toc): AuraCheck: Reminds you if no aura or crusader aura is active when engaging combat in an instance. |
| 20:54.14 | kergoth | Antiarc: also, what do you think about changing the width/height parameters names to thickness and legnth, respectively? i think it would help remove confusion between horizontal and vertical orientations, since right now passing height in some places changes height of vertical, and some passing height changes bar thickness (width), its inconsistent atm |
| 20:54.59 | kergoth | durcyn: toggling the bar list anchor now collapses the bars onto the anchor, fyi. in case you need to account for that in your positioning in omniscience |
| 20:55.12 | DARKGuy | nvm I got it :P |
| 20:57.03 | ckknight | is it "Change whom the ticket is assigned to" or "Change who the ticket is assigned to"? |
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| 20:57.22 | Funkeh` | who |
| 20:57.25 | kergoth | pretty sure its who, but my grammar skills arent exactly great |
| 20:57.33 | vhaarr | "Change assignee" |
| 20:57.35 | kergoth | think its whom when its used like "for whom" |
| 20:57.38 | kergoth | [Strange] Thieves steal £30,000 of handbags before escaping on mopeds, in what police believe to be an attempt to break the record for World's Least Masculine Crime |
| 20:57.39 | kergoth | <3 fark |
| 20:58.12 | Vulcanus | AuraCheck eh? I might want that, sometimes Im stupid when it comes to crusader aura :p |
| 20:58.13 | ckknight | vhaarr: that works. |
| 20:58.25 | vhaarr | it's a lot shorter, which makes me prefer it |
| 20:59.08 | ckknight | basically, on curseforge, if you change state of a ticket somehow (by changing the name, status, level, assignee, etc.), it adds a comment saying what happened |
| 20:59.21 | Ackis | ping kolie |
| 20:59.35 | vhaarr | bugzilla did that for a long time, but they went away from that in favor of a detailed log |
| 20:59.57 | vhaarr | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_activity.cgi?id=383085 |
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| 21:00.19 | vhaarr | changes like that are not shown in the main bug view |
| 21:00.36 | ckknight | well, we may be able to go to that later |
| 21:00.41 | ckknight | but I think this will work just fine for now |
| 21:00.41 | vhaarr | I would prefer it like bugzilla, a simple main view with a detailed optional view |
| 21:00.56 | ckknight | I don't have all the time in the world to implement all this |
| 21:01.26 | nevcairiel | finish software -> announce release date .. not other way around =P |
| 21:01.48 | CIA-42 | 03poull * r74197 10AuraCheck/AuraCheck.toc: AuraCheck: Added X-Category to toc. |
| 21:01.54 | charon | "so uh, yeah, we're going to release tomorrow btw" |
| 21:01.57 | nevcairiel | or rather, finish software -> announce release date -> run QA up to release -> release |
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| 21:02.28 | vhaarr | select(2, GetShapeshiftFormInfo(stance)) == "Crusader Aura") |
| 21:02.33 | vhaarr | Poul|Raider: is that you? |
| 21:02.44 | vhaarr | poull/poul |
| 21:02.51 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yea, management was kinda bad before. CurseForge has been worked on for 7 months already. It should've released 4 months ago |
| 21:02.55 | Vulcanus | Poul|Raider (I assume you're the AuraCheck guy): will/s there an option to warn you even in the open world? |
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| 21:03.08 | ckknight | charon: we're releasing in two days |
| 21:03.12 | Pkekyo|edu | thul: ping |
| 21:03.12 | Vulcanus | is* |
| 21:03.15 | *** part/#wowace VoVz (i=VoVz@78.84.90.57) |
| 21:03.22 | Pkekyo|edu | ~seen thul |
| 21:03.23 | purl | thul is currently on #wowace (1d 12h 46m 46s). Has said a total of 25 messages. Is idling for 1h 11m 52s, last said: 'Pkekyo|edu: they have to proof that the damage is related to the problem'. |
| 21:03.23 | ckknight | note: we'll be working on CurseForge even after release |
| 21:03.27 | ckknight | hooray for perpetual betas |
| 21:03.38 | charon | ckknight: i was just commenting on nev's suggestion. i know about the topic over in #curseforge :) |
| 21:03.38 | vhaarr | and you're still planning to import curse.com? |
| 21:03.55 | ckknight | yep, vhaarr |
| 21:04.01 | vhaarr | okay |
| 21:04.04 | Funkeh` | why? |
| 21:04.08 | vhaarr | because they're nuts |
| 21:04.11 | ckknight | woo! |
| 21:04.22 | ckknight | actually, the project management on curseforge is already nicer than on curse |
| 21:04.27 | ckknight | so all in all, it's a net gain |
| 21:04.40 | ckknight | the extra features like repositories, tickets, etc are just niceties |
| 21:04.46 | nevcairiel | its still nuts to spam all the old nolonger maintained projects over to CF =P |
| 21:04.46 | Funkeh` | you should be starting fresh |
| 21:04.51 | Funkeh` | in my opinion |
| 21:04.52 | vhaarr | no it isn't, it's a pile of garbage thrown on a new garbage dump |
| 21:04.59 | Matrix110 | i think the point is that curse has gazillion of abandoned useless totally outdated code garbage |
| 21:05.00 | vhaarr | doing that import is crazy |
| 21:05.10 | Matrix110 | *lins |
| 21:05.12 | ckknight | nevcairiel: anything that's not updated by WoW 2.0 is marked abandoned |
| 21:05.18 | vhaarr | no matter |
| 21:05.20 | vhaarr | it's still a bad idea |
| 21:05.22 | nevcairiel | make that 2.4 :P |
| 21:05.30 | Funkeh` | indeed |
| 21:05.37 | ckknight | vhaarr: feel free to tell netcurse when he comes on |
| 21:05.45 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:05.46 | vhaarr | I've told Zyuu |
| 21:05.51 | ckknight | doesn't disagree with you |
| 21:06.03 | Matrix110 | just give them a button orso |
| 21:06.03 | vhaarr | yeah I didn't think so |
| 21:06.10 | nevcairiel | i think i tolked to Kaelten about it too |
| 21:06.12 | Matrix110 | "import to curseforge" |
| 21:06.14 | nevcairiel | *talked |
| 21:06.34 | ckknight | in any event, not my decision |
| 21:06.39 | Pkekyo|edu | can anyone think of a reason why my monitor won't display on HDMI, but only VGA? |
| 21:06.45 | ckknight | but feel free to talk to netcurse about it |
| 21:06.53 | ckknight | it comes down to him ultimately |
| 21:07.01 | nevcairiel | Pkekyo|edu: cable broken? graphics card hdmi out broken? |
| 21:07.08 | vhaarr | no HDMI support? :P |
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| 21:07.47 | Pkekyo|edu | vhaarr: it worked this morning... |
| 21:07.53 | vhaarr | envisions Pkekyo|edu jamming a HDMI cable into a USB socket |
| 21:08.11 | DARKGuy | rofl |
| 21:08.12 | vhaarr | "I swear it was working this morning!" |
| 21:08.19 | Pkekyo|edu | nevcairiel: can't imagine why the cable would break, it hasn't been moved at all |
| 21:08.39 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|edu: are you running windows? |
| 21:08.42 | Pkekyo|edu | XP |
| 21:08.45 | vhaarr | did you reboot? |
| 21:08.50 | vhaarr | you know, that usually fixes windows |
| 21:08.55 | DARKGuy | really |
| 21:08.57 | Matrix110 | Pkekyo|edu did you already put the plug in/out a few times? oxidation is evil |
| 21:09.22 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r74198 10RBM_Capping/ (. Capping.lua RBM_Capping.toc): RBM_Capping: -- Initial Commit. |
| 21:09.33 | Matrix110 | I had this already 3 times with Sata drives |
| 21:09.34 | Matrix110 | plug is there |
| 21:09.38 | Matrix110 | worked for several weeks |
| 21:09.47 | Matrix110 | but now it doesnt |
| 21:09.50 | Matrix110 | just pushing the plug in = doesnt help |
| 21:10.06 | Matrix110 | but putting it in/out a few times helps... |
| 21:10.29 | Pkekyo|edu | Matrix110: allready connected/disconnected everything arseloads of times |
| 21:10.35 | ckknight | vhaarr: what's your argument against moving project management to curseforge besides the fact that curse has a lot of crappy addons? |
| 21:10.40 | Pkekyo|edu | vhaarr: yes, I did reboot, didn't help at all |
| 21:10.43 | Matrix110 | hmm |
| 21:10.58 | [Liquidor] | Has anyone noticed that newlines in the chat is indented? |
| 21:10.59 | Pkekyo|edu | actually, rebooting is what created the problem...everything worked fine beforehand |
| 21:10.59 | Xinhuan | wowace has a lot of crappy addons too ;p |
| 21:11.01 | Matrix110 | do you have a cat?/dog?/mice?/rat? |
| 21:11.05 | ckknight | truth, Xinhuan |
| 21:11.09 | Funkeh` | curse needs a fresh start |
| 21:11.26 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm worried that curseforge will become a unmanagable mess like sourceforge, and I know it is inevitable in the end, but it shouldn't *start* that way |
| 21:11.27 | ckknight | Funkeh`: we can always take things out or move them after-the-fact |
| 21:11.39 | ckknight | vhaarr: unmanageable how? |
| 21:11.45 | ckknight | I don't see that happening... |
| 21:11.46 | Pkekyo|edu | Matrix110: no, no, no and no |
| 21:11.46 | vhaarr | ckknight: I'm also worried that you're going to be putting lots of projects over for no good reason - i.e. the author doesn't WANT his addon there |
| 21:11.49 | balstor_ | so for the last 30 minutes i have been trying to get the equations for calculationg dps to match the tooltips in game, yhea not happening |
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| 21:12.18 | vhaarr | ckknight: I think it's more fair to ask *why* you are going to import the database |
| 21:15.05 | vhaarr | I see no reason to do so |
| 21:15.05 | nevcairiel | from what i understand, project management on curse will be deactivated and people have to upload through curseforge? |
| 21:15.05 | vhaarr | do you think it will help adoption rates? |
| 21:15.05 | vhaarr | because it won't |
| 21:15.06 | ckknight | vhaarr: because all project administration is going to occur on curseforge and take the burden off of curse |
| 21:15.06 | vhaarr | ckknight: i.e. uploading new versions of addons for curse.com will happen through curseforge? |
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| 21:15.06 | vhaarr | exclusively? |
| 21:15.06 | ckknight | vhaarr: yea, that happens automatically. |
| 21:15.06 | ckknight | well, anyone can take the files created and put em on wowi, etc. |
| 21:15.06 | ckknight | nothing prevents that |
| 21:15.06 | vhaarr | yes but I mean, you won't be able to update your addon from curse.com anymore? |
| 21:15.06 | ckknight | right |
| 21:15.06 | vhaarr | aha |
| 21:15.07 | vhaarr | well then there's nothing to discuss, is there |
| 21:15.07 | ckknight | the project management on curse is horribly, horribly broken |
| 21:15.07 | Funkeh` | so you're turning curseforge into the pile of shit curse is to start curse with a clean slate? |
| 21:15.07 | ckknight | this is an easy out |
| 21:15.07 | vhaarr | curse.com is broken, ckknight |
| 21:15.07 | vhaarr | it's a pile of shit |
| 21:15.07 | ckknight | agrees |
| 21:15.07 | ckknight | I agree profusely. |
| 21:15.07 | syeren | profalbert :o? |
| 21:15.07 | [Liquidor] | curse.com always is |
| 21:15.07 | vhaarr | that doesn't mean curseforge.com should inherit the crap |
| 21:15.07 | [Liquidor] | and so is curseforge to some degree too :-/ |
| 21:15.07 | vhaarr | but if people won't be able to update their addons on curse.com anymore then you don't have a choice |
| 21:15.07 | vhaarr | you'll have to import |
| 21:15.08 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:15.14 | vhaarr | I was under the impression curseforge was a separate entity, not tied directly into curse.com |
| 21:15.18 | vhaarr | like wowace |
| 21:15.21 | vhaarr | but apparently not, then |
| 21:15.23 | ckknight | all curseforge is is separating the developer side of curse onto its own site |
| 21:15.26 | vhaarr | okay |
| 21:15.59 | ckknight | it will provide most of the features that wowace provides now, but those are just niceties |
| 21:16.19 | vhaarr | wowace.com is perfect, it's a neutral breeding ground |
| 21:16.35 | Matrix110 | not perfect :P |
| 21:16.37 | vhaarr | and if you're desperate about "control", you jump on google code |
| 21:16.38 | vhaarr | yes it is |
| 21:16.41 | vhaarr | it's perfect for me |
| 21:17.05 | [Liquidor] | When it comes to frontend wowace.com is way better than curseforge.com tho |
| 21:17.31 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: feel free to file tickets about what you think sucks |
| 21:17.31 | vhaarr | kergoth: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=13532.0;topicseen |
| 21:17.48 | vhaarr | recycling problems with libbars frames |
| 21:18.19 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:18.33 | kergoth | probably just need to reset the gradient map in ReleaseBar |
| 21:18.36 | kergoth | i'll look into it, thanks |
| 21:18.44 | vhaarr | thank you |
| 21:18.44 | purl | vhaarr: no worries |
| 21:18.48 | vhaarr | purl: piss off |
| 21:18.49 | purl | ACTION off goes behind Beans & Brews and waters a tree |
| 21:18.49 | [Liquidor] | I know ckknight but I highly doubt that my tickets will be resolved since that would require a completely new webteam for Curse |
| 21:18.53 | vhaarr | lol |
| 21:19.22 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: does The Big Bang Theory mix well with beer? |
| 21:19.33 | vhaarr | or would that result in a slightly askewed universe |
| 21:19.38 | [Liquidor] | vhaarr if it's Carlsberg yes |
| 21:19.44 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt know, i dont drink beer |
| 21:19.50 | nevcairiel | but i bet it works |
| 21:19.52 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: I'd rather they'd be filed anyway |
| 21:19.53 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: but .. but. .. you're german |
| 21:20.00 | vhaarr | ALL germans drink beer |
| 21:20.03 | Matrix110 | no |
| 21:20.05 | Pkekyo|edu | I just love installing new graphics drives :) |
| 21:20.05 | Pkekyo|edu | always screws you over for ATLEAST a month |
| 21:20.08 | Pkekyo|edu | also: Carlsberg = WIN |
| 21:20.11 | [Liquidor] | Do you guys know of Carlsberg and Tuborg in the US? |
| 21:20.15 | vhaarr | Stop fucking with my stereotypes! |
| 21:20.17 | Xuerian | [Liquidor]: Mightaswell fill the tickets and give it a try, things might start getting fixed :) |
| 21:20.18 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: P.S. we hired a whole new webteam for the new curse.com |
| 21:20.22 | Apoco | ckknight: on patch day when curse bombs to all hell, won't curseforge too? As such not allowing us access to the svn's? |
| 21:20.26 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: heh, i just dont like the taste :P |
| 21:20.27 | Pkekyo|edu | compared to Carlsberg, Tuborg is utter shite :p |
| 21:20.34 | ckknight | Apoco: two separate boxes. |
| 21:20.36 | Pkekyo|edu | oh, and the yanks don't know anything but budweiser |
| 21:20.37 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: yeah it's an aquired taste, that's true |
| 21:20.38 | Apoco | kk |
| 21:20.43 | ckknight | Apoco: repos.curseforge.net â www.curseforge.com |
| 21:20.48 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, I know. Hubert told me months ago |
| 21:20.53 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: you have to be forced to drink it the first 5 times from peer pressure |
| 21:20.57 | *** join/#wowace kd3 (n=kd3@user-1121rpb.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 21:20.57 | vhaarr | then you can't stop |
| 21:21.03 | nevcairiel | thats true |
| 21:21.04 | vhaarr | just like smoking |
| 21:21.06 | Pkekyo|edu | :p |
| 21:21.09 | vhaarr | all good things come from peer pressure |
| 21:21.09 | Apoco | I could see Curse putting them on the same box to save money, just had to ask. |
| 21:21.13 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: there's really only one person left of the old team, but he won't be working on the new curse.com |
| 21:21.19 | nevcairiel | i drink beer on occasion, just not when i'm alone at home :P |
| 21:21.25 | *** join/#wowace Pkekyo| (n=bsm89mod@062016163025.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 21:21.26 | ckknight | Apoco: actually we have 3 boxes, 1 web, 1 db, 1 repos |
| 21:21.32 | ckknight | just for CF |
| 21:21.37 | Apoco | very nice |
| 21:21.38 | Pkekyo|edu | vhaarr: you don't even need peer pressure...you just need some REALLY shitty moonshine, so you can decide it's better off going with the beer :p |
| 21:21.52 | sdouble | I drink beer alone all the time, but it's just because i like the taste. I haven't been drunk or have even gotten a "buzz" for years. |
| 21:21.54 | Pkekyo|edu | vhaarr: dane btw? |
| 21:21.56 | vhaarr | Pkekyo|edu: actually, yes, I've been there, done that :P |
| 21:21.57 | vhaarr | norwegian |
| 21:22.01 | [Liquidor] | Apoco, actually Curse got the moeny and doesn't mind using it |
| 21:22.01 | Pkekyo|edu | zomg |
| 21:22.18 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: there's a difference between getting drunk and having 1-2 beers :P |
| 21:22.18 | ckknight | Apoco: hooray for venture capitalists |
| 21:22.23 | Apoco | lol |
| 21:22.27 | ckknight | Curse is all growed up |
| 21:22.34 | ckknight | but not really, it's still technically a startup |
| 21:22.37 | Apoco | so next patch day curse won't be basically ddos'd to hell? |
| 21:22.39 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: yeah there comes the taste back in the game .. :P |
| 21:22.43 | vhaarr | ah right |
| 21:22.51 | nevcairiel | curse will always die on patch days |
| 21:22.54 | ckknight | Apoco: assuming next patch is 3.0 in â October, we'll be fine. |
| 21:22.55 | Matrix110 | Apoco it will |
| 21:22.57 | vhaarr | goes to try out a Big Bang Theory + beer combo |
| 21:22.57 | sdouble | Well, there is more than just "Beer" |
| 21:23.06 | sdouble | there are many different types with differeent flavors |
| 21:23.08 | Matrix110 | to last a rush like @patchday you need serious loadbalancing |
| 21:23.21 | Apoco | if they have the money they can do it |
| 21:23.26 | Matrix110 | no:P |
| 21:23.26 | Apoco | the question is, if they will do it. |
| 21:23.27 | sdouble | people don't drink good beer to get drunk, people drink cheap beer to get drunk |
| 21:23.31 | Pkekyo|edu | sdouble: captain obvious is obvious..obviously |
| 21:23.36 | Matrix110 | its not worth it |
| 21:23.39 | sdouble | and cheap beer is cheap because it doesn't taste very good. |
| 21:23.46 | Pkekyo|edu | well, I drink good beer to get drunk, and after I'm drunk I start on the cheap shitty beer :p |
| 21:23.51 | [Liquidor] | If I had anything to do with it someone should make a smaller clone version of Google Code and leave it like that. Anything else is just waste of ... everything |
| 21:24.07 | ckknight | Matrix110: the idea's to have a dedicated hardware load balancer, hitting one of the many fileserver nodes, the website then has its own load balancer to serve web content (i.e. not addons) |
| 21:24.11 | nevcairiel | running heavy load-balancing just to survive a patch day and have it idling the other 99% of the year is wasted money |
| 21:24.19 | Pkekyo|edu | after I'm drunk I don't give a shit either way, it's somewhat of an economical decision...if only I got drunk fast :p |
| 21:24.27 | Pkekyo|edu | needs a smaller body so he can get drunk faster |
| 21:24.33 | Matrix110 | well aslong as the curse page is in the same hosting facility it will die no matter what :P |
| 21:24.35 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: I've been stealing google code's issue tracking features for the past day or so |
| 21:24.44 | ckknight | Matrix110: it won't be, I believe. |
| 21:24.46 | [Liquidor] | needs more beer to get drunk faster |
| 21:24.47 | Arrowmaster | its very hard to kill a hosting facility |
| 21:24.51 | sdouble | Pkekyo|edu, what's your beer of choice? |
| 21:25.00 | ckknight | Matrix110: the addons will be served by a CDN |
| 21:25.01 | Arrowmaster | i know somebody that owns one in irivne ca |
| 21:25.07 | Matrix110 | ah |
| 21:25.09 | Arrowmaster | hes got enough bandwidth to survive anything |
| 21:25.09 | [Liquidor] | Btw |
| 21:25.22 | [Liquidor] | The question was: Do you guys know of Carlsberg and Tuborg in the US? |
| 21:25.35 | nevcairiel | you generally only kill the server |
| 21:25.42 | nevcairiel | or the load-balancing proxy |
| 21:25.47 | Diao | carlsberg is a brand of beer isn't it |
| 21:25.52 | Matrix110 | Arrowmaster its not the bandwith which is the problem normally :P |
| 21:25.59 | [Liquidor] | yes Diao |
| 21:26.01 | [Liquidor] | both are |
| 21:26.07 | Diao | oh never heard of the other one |
| 21:26.13 | Arrowmaster | Matrix110: his main router will also survive anything |
| 21:26.25 | ckknight | well, if anybody's used wowdb, you may have noticed that it's typically pretty snappy, even under >1200 req/s load |
| 21:26.30 | Pkekyo|edu | sdouble: Carlsberg...well, Corona, but I can't afford that when I'm drinking to get drunk (corona with food = win)... :) |
| 21:26.39 | ckknight | the new curse.com is gonna use a similar setup code-wise |
| 21:26.45 | Matrix110 | Arrowmaster that depends on the hosting facility though |
| 21:26.55 | Diao | o_O |
| 21:26.58 | Matrix110 | and EVERY router has its limit:P |
| 21:26.59 | Diao | isn't corona super cheap |
| 21:27.12 | nevcairiel | there is still a pretty big difference from wowdb and curse.com on patch days =P |
| 21:27.15 | [Liquidor] | ckknight as ? |
| 21:27.15 | Pkekyo|edu | Diao: yes, Carlsberg's a beer...and no, Corona isn't cheap, atleast not here |
| 21:27.22 | Diao | oh |
| 21:27.27 | Diao | maybe because i live right next to mexico |
| 21:27.30 | sdouble | I've never had carlsberg. But there is a smaller brewer in colorado that makes an excellent black ale called 1554 |
| 21:27.31 | Arrowmaster | Matrix110: yeah id like to see his main router hit its limit, its like 100gbps or something |
| 21:27.35 | Pkekyo|edu | 0,33 of Corona cost me more than 0,5 of Carlsberg |
| 21:27.35 | Diao | it's super cheap lol |
| 21:27.43 | sdouble | After that, I probably go for newcastle |
| 21:28.02 | Matrix110 | Well |
| 21:28.05 | ckknight | nevcairiel: true, but code-wise, the current curse.com sucks pretty hard, has bad cache implementations, can't take many reqs/sec. The new system we're designing is built to withstand huge amounts of load |
| 21:28.09 | Pkekyo|edu | sdouble: no black ale 'round here sadly... best (and cheapest) beer I ever had though, was the czech Gambrinus |
| 21:28.14 | Matrix110 | as i said its not the bandwith that is the problem normally |
| 21:28.25 | nevcairiel | ckknight: thats because curse.com uses a crappy framework to begin with =P |
| 21:28.25 | DARKGuy | Besdies curse is kinda ugly :P |
| 21:28.33 | ckknight | nevcairiel: I absolutely agree. |
| 21:28.48 | ckknight | it is horrible |
| 21:28.49 | Arrowmaster | Matrix110: but at a cheap webhost they dont have such good hardware, but i doubt curse would be hosted at some place that doesnt have the hardware to handle it at its peek |
| 21:28.51 | ckknight | just horrible. |
| 21:29.01 | nevcairiel | all those funny frameworks, like ruby on rails or django cant support high-load websites because they are too slow |
| 21:29.08 | ckknight | extremely true |
| 21:29.18 | sdouble | depending on the server they run on |
| 21:29.23 | sdouble | running on apache, sure thing |
| 21:29.29 | ckknight | we're going with community server for the new curse.com |
| 21:29.30 | sdouble | but rails running on webrick is pretty quick |
| 21:29.42 | Arrowmaster | isnt twitter switching away from ruby on rails because it doesnt preform well enough? |
| 21:29.49 | [Liquidor] | So what are we at... Curse v4 now? |
| 21:29.51 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yep |
| 21:29.53 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: v5 |
| 21:29.55 | DARKGuy | who said ruby was for websites anyways? |
| 21:29.58 | DARKGuy | php ftw. |
| 21:29.59 | Matrix110 | There is a reason why DDoS works and several 100k people rushing to update their WoW Addons is nothing different :D |
| 21:30.03 | ckknight | DARKGuy: :-P no. |
| 21:30.06 | sdouble | rails is great, but not for a shared environment or on apache |
| 21:30.10 | nevcairiel | even on webrick, rails is too slow for any serious high-traffic |
| 21:30.11 | sdouble | I still stick with php |
| 21:30.15 | [Liquidor] | php ftw |
| 21:30.20 | DARKGuy | php ftw |
| 21:30.22 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 21:30.35 | trh | php is the most horrible language for maintaining a big code basis |
| 21:30.38 | Xuerian | php scarred me for life |
| 21:30.40 | Pkekyo|edu | Diao: how much do you pay for your Corona? |
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| 21:30.44 | Xuerian | ... but I still love it. |
| 21:30.47 | nevcairiel | the language itself doesnt really matter |
| 21:30.53 | Fisker- | so |
| 21:30.59 | ckknight | Matrix110: well, one important distinction is that the file server and the web server are two distinct entities, unlike now |
| 21:30.59 | Diao | like $1 a bottle? |
| 21:31.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah its the rails framework |
| 21:31.01 | nevcairiel | as long as it doesnt contain a big framework that you use |
| 21:31.04 | Diao | if i go over to mexico it's cheaper |
| 21:31.08 | Arrowmaster | and other frameworks |
| 21:31.15 | Diao | you give them back the bottles and they'll refill it for like a peso |
| 21:31.16 | [Liquidor] | I can setup something more informative, faster and more cached than Curse.com with plain .php and mysqli.... on a freebie server |
| 21:31.17 | Fisker- | can anyone in here be excited over "$spell is refreshed"? :P |
| 21:31.22 | nevcairiel | what you need, is a very good and logical cache setup |
| 21:31.26 | Pkekyo|edu | Diao: here it's ATLEAST $5 a bottle, more likely about $8 |
| 21:31.34 | trh | i'm currently using a java-framework that emulates the swing api for web-development :) |
| 21:31.36 | Diao | wow |
| 21:31.36 | nevcairiel | easiest way -> static html files that are generated by background scripts |
| 21:31.36 | sdouble | Ouch. |
| 21:31.40 | Diao | that's pretty expensive :( |
| 21:31.41 | sdouble | Where do you live? |
| 21:31.46 | DARKGuy | I prefer php over other web languages. Big frameworks suck a ton, making your own non-bloated php mini-framework for your website: ftw. |
| 21:31.48 | Pkekyo|edu | yeah...norway...just the way it is :p |
| 21:31.54 | [Liquidor] | WHAT THE FUCK? $8 per bottle? |
| 21:31.56 | trh | pretty cool to basically write swing-gui-code and have it in a web interface :) |
| 21:31.56 | Diao | even at restaurants where they charge more for it |
| 21:31.58 | Diao | it's only $2 max |
| 21:32.12 | Diao | i'm in california though :P |
| 21:32.19 | [Liquidor] | In Denmark you get beer for 40 cents |
| 21:32.23 | sdouble | I'm not a fan of Corona. |
| 21:32.24 | [Liquidor] | per bottle |
| 21:32.38 | sdouble | If I wanted something like that, I'd get Dos Equis |
| 21:32.39 | trh | DARKGuy: imagine that for enterprise sites like amazon or sth. equal |
| 21:32.42 | Pkekyo|edu | at bars etc here, you've gotta pay approx $13 to get the cheepest beer they've got... |
| 21:32.46 | trh | DARKGuy: php just doesn't cut it |
| 21:32.49 | Pkekyo|edu | that's 0.5 |
| 21:32.53 | DARKGuy | I mean, look at symphony. I can make a full web interface in 1-2 php files in what symphony can do in 30-40 files + directories AND php "recompiling". |
| 21:33.01 | Arrowmaster | enterprise sites have major load balancing |
| 21:33.05 | Diao | might be $5 at a bar |
| 21:33.08 | Diao | but usually there's happy hour |
| 21:33.10 | Pkekyo|edu | cans with 0.5 at stores range from $4-$10 |
| 21:33.15 | Diao | nd the price is like $1-2 |
| 21:33.26 | DARKGuy | trh, well it's either php, asp or perl :/ |
| 21:33.26 | [Liquidor] | wtf |
| 21:33.35 | [Liquidor] | Okay let's be hornest guys... |
| 21:33.39 | trh | DARKGuy: java ain't to bad performance wise :) |
| 21:33.47 | Pkekyo|edu | basucktm the drinking culture in norway is so badly fucked tits up, people can charge just about anything for the beer :p |
| 21:33.49 | [Liquidor] | A nice bottle of beer in the US costs.... how much? |
| 21:34.04 | Diao | just over $1 usually |
| 21:34.05 | Diao | if you buy from market |
| 21:34.06 | Pkekyo|edu | once norwegians get tipsy, they'll buy any drink at any cost |
| 21:34.17 | DARKGuy | trh, depends on your system specs :P Javascript is nice. I've never made websites in full java, I consider it a very high level language :P |
| 21:34.19 | Diao | from restaurant/bar of course it's moer :P |
| 21:34.36 | Arrowmaster | blizzard website is in full java |
| 21:34.37 | [Liquidor] | eh |
| 21:34.40 | charon | takes a deep breath |
| 21:34.45 | trh | DARKGuy: java is pretty nice for websites... you usually have 0 problems with code injection etc. :) |
| 21:34.46 | [Liquidor] | You mean JS aight? |
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| 21:34.56 | [Liquidor] | Java != JavaScript |
| 21:34.57 | Arrowmaster | no java |
| 21:35.02 | trh | DARKGuy: and you get nice maintainable code |
| 21:35.09 | ckknight | Blizz's webservers are all Java, afaik |
| 21:35.13 | [Liquidor] | Arh |
| 21:35.14 | DARKGuy | trh, same goes for php if you do the right checks :P, php is maintanable too :P |
| 21:35.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 21:35.14 | DARKGuy | oO |
| 21:35.16 | trh | ckknight: yeah.. but their admins suck :) |
| 21:35.18 | DARKGuy | stupid blizz |
| 21:35.18 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 21:35.20 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: Curse is standardizing on .NET |
| 21:35.21 | trh | ckknight: they use tomcat 5.5 |
| 21:35.27 | ckknight | DARKGuy: why stupid? |
| 21:35.28 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: ewwww |
| 21:35.34 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: why ewwww? |
| 21:35.38 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: i thought they moved away from the servlet code |
| 21:35.40 | [Liquidor] | .NET is overrated |
| 21:35.42 | DARKGuy | it's just java. |
| 21:35.46 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 21:35.48 | Pkekyo|edu | here you can get beer for about $1 too, but it's utter fucking shite... to get decent beer, you've gotta pop up to $4-5, $8-10 for the really good stuff |
| 21:35.51 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: winblows servers? |
| 21:35.53 | Pkekyo|edu | and now dark beer :< |
| 21:35.54 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: true, but it does the job |
| 21:35.54 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: all the public pages are pure html though |
| 21:36.06 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, Server 2008 and IIS 7, I believe |
| 21:36.11 | trh | you can get a cheap beer here for like 20eur-cent ;) |
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| 21:36.18 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: ewwwwww |
| 21:36.22 | ckknight | although I agree that IIS 5 blows donkey balls, 6 and above aren't bad |
| 21:36.27 | DARKGuy | so that's why blizz servers have so much maintenance? :P |
| 21:36.31 | ckknight | I don't get why you say ew, Arrowmaster |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-42 | 03charon * r74199 10Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ThreatClassModuleCore.lua: |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-42 | Threat-2.0: Merge improved class module CLEU handler |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-42 | This changes the CLEU handling to a function-table-driven approach, |
| 21:36.34 | CIA-42 | improving performance somewhat (one test showed 12% less time spent |
| 21:36.34 | DARKGuy | s/have/need/ |
| 21:36.35 | CIA-42 | there). |
| 21:36.37 | charon | i've double-checked it again, it should do the exact same thing as the code did before that. nevertheless, if reports of threat-2.0 failing start popping up again, revert it. |
| 21:36.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: appache > * |
| 21:37.00 | [Liquidor] | Let's face it.. Blizzard's EU Webteam sucks at their job. |
| 21:37.01 | Kirkburn|afk | That sounds like fanboyism :P |
| 21:37.01 | DARKGuy | seconds Arrowmaster |
| 21:37.02 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: nginx > apache |
| 21:37.05 | Pkekyo|edu | s/now/no/ |
| 21:37.06 | sdouble | putting a site together with .net is nice |
| 21:37.12 | Pkekyo|edu | trh: where's that |
| 21:37.13 | Pkekyo|edu | ? |
| 21:37.17 | trh | Pkekyo|: germany ;) |
| 21:37.18 | nevcairiel | but seriously, aspx pages are rare, for a reason =P |
| 21:37.25 | [Liquidor] | heh |
| 21:37.37 | [Liquidor] | asp.net is just bloody stupid |
| 21:37.47 | trh | Pkekyo|: but drinking that 20-cent stuff isn't something a person in his right mind should do ;) |
| 21:37.47 | [Liquidor] | It's like agreeing to be handicapped |
| 21:37.52 | Pkekyo|edu | trh: ofcourse...all germans drink beer...all the time :p |
| 21:37.56 | Arrowmaster | and you dont have to restart nix servers running appache every day like you do with windows and iis |
| 21:37.58 | Pkekyo|edu | heheh, yeah, figured |
| 21:38.00 | nevcairiel | ckknight: what .net language are you writing that in ? :P |
| 21:38.01 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: hehe, why's that? |
| 21:38.02 | trh | Pkekyo|: naah.. that's not true ;) |
| 21:38.13 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster, ewwwww I hate that. |
| 21:38.15 | ckknight | nevcairiel: we're basing on Community Server and going on C# |
| 21:38.25 | trh | Pkekyo|: i rarely drink beer, even though i live officially in bavaria ;) |
| 21:38.38 | hypetech | Arrowmaster: you don't have to restart production windows IIS servers very often..... |
| 21:38.41 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: although I completely agree with you for IIS 5, I just think you're wrong with IIS 6 and above. |
| 21:38.51 | nevcairiel | C# is good for easy windows GUI applications |
| 21:38.53 | nevcairiel | but thats it =P |
| 21:38.57 | DARKGuy | agreed |
| 21:39.00 | Pkekyo|edu | but seriously...couple of years ago, went to the czech republic with some mates....at bars the .5 beer cost one tenth of the beer you get in norwegian bar, has double the alcohol percentage, and tastes ALOT better :/ |
| 21:39.04 | Pkekyo|edu | I wanna go back there :< |
| 21:39.13 | Arrowmaster | i know of companies that restart all their windows servers every few days just to be safe |
| 21:39.22 | ckknight | nevcairiel: why is it bad for the web? |
| 21:39.26 | hypetech | We run 200+ windows servers, about 10% of them are Win2K/IIS5 and the rest are Win2K3/IIS6 and we rarely have to reboot any of them |
| 21:39.34 | trh | the thing i hate about .net web development is, that you are totally bound to IIS :( |
| 21:39.37 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: WoWDB runs on ASP.NET, care to guess how often it reboots? |
| 21:39.48 | hypetech | IIS5 requires relatively frequent iisreset, but not a full server reboot |
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| 21:40.21 | [Liquidor] | ckknight ASP.NET enables you to change the layout (with limits) without the need to recompile the application, but Php enables you to change not only the layout, but the application's functionality without compiling anything (it's interpreted) |
| 21:41.10 | hypetech | but once it's compiled, asp.net is typically better performance for high-use applications ;P |
| 21:41.20 | aestil | ckknight: did you or did you not write the original parrot exteremly quickly? |
| 21:41.28 | ckknight | aestil: took me about 3 weeks |
| 21:41.34 | trh | liquidor: yeah.. but if you make a mistake (i.e. variablenaem instead of variablename) your screwed |
| 21:41.45 | aestil | ckknight: i cry big nasty tears about the current parrot. |
| 21:41.49 | Fisker- | php is slower omg! |
| 21:41.54 | aestil | i have to go update cart3. |
| 21:41.54 | ckknight | aestil: you're free to hack on it |
| 21:41.55 | [Liquidor] | You don't control the output with ASP.NET either (you can but meh), but with Php you control everything... like newlines and spaces etc that goes to the client |
| 21:41.57 | aestil | ~cart3 |
| 21:42.02 | trh | liquidor: b/c there's no protection through type-safety etc. |
| 21:42.03 | aestil | ckknight: i know nothing about code. |
| 21:42.04 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 21:42.08 | aestil | ~cartographer3 |
| 21:42.08 | purl | cartographer3 is probably the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at git://gitorious.org/cartographer3/mainline.git or http://gitorious.org/projects/cartographer3/repos/mainline/archive/master.tar.gz (rename the extracted folder Cartographer3) - Provide feedback at jira.wowace.com in the Cartographer3 component. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 21:42.29 | Arrowmaster | hypetech: but what about nix/appaches ability to handle more clients than windows/iis, how does php vs asp work out then |
| 21:42.30 | [Liquidor] | lol that's my video |
| 21:42.33 | ckknight | come Monday, Cart3 will be hosted on CurseForge primarily instead of gitorious |
| 21:42.36 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: sure is! |
| 21:43.15 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: how many clients per second would be adequate for you? :-P I know WoWDB's gone over 1200 |
| 21:43.28 | DARKGuy | I fscking hate any compiled language for web. Web != Local app. Therefore, recompiling will be very, very often. |
| 21:43.40 | [Liquidor] | ckknight |
| 21:43.46 | trh | DARKGuy: recompiling is a matter of seconds (at least with java) |
| 21:43.48 | DARKGuy | it's just a waste of time imho. Yay for changing a variable and hit F5 |
| 21:43.58 | [Liquidor] | does that number include Ajax calls? |
| 21:44.13 | Xuerian | Woo, 5k gold. |
| 21:44.13 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: lemme ask |
| 21:44.26 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: seeing as WoWDB's mostly AJAX, probably |
| 21:44.29 | trh | DARKGuy: but with compiled (and typed) languages you usually code alot more before checking |
| 21:44.31 | Shirik | DARKGuy: And I dislike interpreted languages |
| 21:44.46 | Shirik | what do you think runs faster? |
| 21:45.13 | DARKGuy | Shirik, compiled, but that means having the developer pass through a nightmare :P |
| 21:45.14 | trh | Shirik: all the same - hotspot/php uses some bytecode stuff/.net too |
| 21:45.16 | DARKGuy | I hate compiling :P |
| 21:45.20 | Shirik | nightmare? |
| 21:45.21 | ckknight | Shirik: although you can try to do better with stuff like psyco for python, it is unbelievably hard to reach the same level of speed |
| 21:45.41 | Shirik | how is compiling a nightmare? |
| 21:45.49 | hypetech | ctrl+f5 is really hard |
| 21:45.50 | hypetech | lol |
| 21:45.55 | DARKGuy | I find it useless for website development to edit, compile, try. |
| 21:45.57 | [Liquidor] | hypetech, what? |
| 21:46.00 | ckknight | yea, you gotta press ctrl _and_ f5 |
| 21:46.03 | DARKGuy | edit and F5 ftw. |
| 21:46.04 | Shirik | I think that was sarcasm [Liquidor] |
| 21:46.14 | hypetech | ^ |
| 21:46.16 | Shirik | DARKGuy |
| 21:46.20 | Shirik | how is that different from edit, save, try |
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| 21:46.24 | nevcairiel | purl needs a irc sarcasm detector |
| 21:46.32 | DARKGuy | Shirik, save != compile :/ |
| 21:46.35 | [Liquidor] | Yeah I know but I haven't worked with compiling before so no clue why you would want to do ctrl+F5 :) |
| 21:46.35 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you have edit, save, compile, try! |
| 21:46.43 | Fisker- | just like your mother nevcairiel hoho |
| 21:46.45 | trh | DARKGuy: my development in java is basically: edit file, at some point i want to test, press 'c' in a other windows, press f5 in browser, done :) |
| 21:46.46 | Pkekyo|edu | anyone know the difference of polycarbonate and perspex? |
| 21:46.46 | Shirik | nevcairiel, my compiler automatically saves on compile :) |
| 21:46.52 | Shirik | well, my IDE |
| 21:47.04 | DARKGuy | trh, but you gotta wait until it compiles again xD |
| 21:47.06 | nevcairiel | Shirik: my IDE crashes when i press ctrl-f <.< |
| 21:47.08 | Shirik | oh noes |
| 21:47.10 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 21:47.13 | Shirik | I have to wait 5 seconds instead of half a second |
| 21:47.20 | trh | DARKGuy: compiling/Deploying takes like 5 seconds |
| 21:47.21 | [Liquidor] | Which scripting language are we talking about now? |
| 21:47.30 | Shirik | I believe we're talking in general |
| 21:47.33 | nevcairiel | Shirik: make my VS08 stop crashing when i want to search :( |
| 21:47.35 | DARKGuy | trh, in those 5 seconds I've already tried and editing my php again :P |
| 21:47.40 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I have no problem with it :P |
| 21:47.40 | trh | DARKGuy: (on my notebook which hasn't a really fast hd) |
| 21:47.48 | Arrowmaster | i dislike asp but agree that theres nothing wrong with compiled languages |
| 21:47.57 | nevcairiel | Shirik: apparently its a "bug" in Windows XP64 |
| 21:48.00 | trh | DARKGuy: but i coded 3x the stuff before i even try (compared to php) |
| 21:48.01 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:48.05 | Shirik | well get a real 64 bit os |
| 21:48.07 | nevcairiel | there is a official hotfix, that you can only get by mailing MS |
| 21:48.12 | Shirik | like vista *ducks* |
| 21:48.21 | nevcairiel | but those lazy asses didnt send it to me |
| 21:48.23 | DARKGuy | trh, I can do the same thing, it depends on how skillful you are in the language ^ |
| 21:48.24 | Arrowmaster | low blow |
| 21:48.24 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 21:48.28 | Fisker- | what's your IDE nevcairiel ? |
| 21:48.37 | Shirik | nevcairiel, maybe I can get it |
| 21:48.40 | Shirik | vs08? |
| 21:48.56 | Shirik | it may be on msdn |
| 21:48.58 | nevcairiel | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947841 |
| 21:49.06 | Pkekyo|edu | polycarbonate vs. perspex, anyone know the difference? |
| 21:49.27 | nevcairiel | perspex sounds like a branding to me |
| 21:49.31 | Fisker- | haven't crashed here |
| 21:49.34 | Fisker- | EVAR |
| 21:50.07 | Pkekyo|edu | nevcairiel: may be, it's a specific material though, one that supposedly is better than polycarbonate for [specific use] |
| 21:50.13 | Shirik | nope, don't see anything nevcairiel :( |
| 21:50.15 | trh | DARKGuy: i don't think so, php requires so much additional testing to have stable production-quality code |
| 21:50.43 | Fisker- | it's weird |
| 21:50.45 | Fisker- | it doesn't happen to me |
| 21:50.53 | Gagorian | Pkekyo|edu: Perspex is acrylic glass |
| 21:51.05 | nevcairiel | wonder if i should just use that request hotfix again |
| 21:51.10 | nevcairiel | with another mail adress |
| 21:51.16 | Pkekyo|edu | as is the polycarbonate that's refered to, I'm trying to make out what the difference between them is |
| 21:51.32 | Pkekyo|edu | (more specificly, ballistic properties) |
| 21:51.45 | Arrowmaster | my friend has to use asp for work and absolutely hates it, says thing would be so much easyer if he could use php |
| 21:51.49 | Shirik | perspex is acrylic |
| 21:51.52 | Fisker- | http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=6308 |
| 21:51.54 | Fisker- | also there |
| 21:52.06 | Fisker- | but i want to know why it's not happening to me ;_; |
| 21:52.09 | DARKGuy | trh, well, I made my own PHP framework so I rarely have to test a lot if I really want to do a lot of coding before testing. It's just that I like to do an edit and see the change almost immediately XD |
| 21:52.13 | Fisker- | oh |
| 21:52.15 | Fisker- | needs registration |
| 21:52.17 | Fisker- | silly guys |
| 21:52.22 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: XP64 with VS08? |
| 21:52.26 | nevcairiel | maybe you instaleld it? =P |
| 21:52.30 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster, hey I have to do that too :( |
| 21:52.32 | Fisker- | yeah nevcairiel |
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| 21:52.35 | Fisker- | and no |
| 21:52.39 | [Liquidor] | Arrowmaster, Everyone knows that php > asp :) |
| 21:52.40 | Pkekyo|edu | Shirik: but no idea about the poly refered to? |
| 21:52.45 | Shirik | polycarbonate? |
| 21:52.50 | Shirik | it's a type of plastic |
| 21:52.57 | Shirik | anyway polycarb's index of refraction is higher |
| 21:52.57 | trh | DARKGuy: yeah.. i did that too (well, only templates, database and such) and it was a pain in the ass compared to web development with java and a nice ide:) |
| 21:53.05 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: that page is handy, i tried googling, but couldnt find anything like that |
| 21:53.06 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.php?automodule=downloads&showfile=6308 |
| 21:53.09 | Shirik | perspex index of refraction is lower than most glass |
| 21:53.14 | Stanzilla | dman Fisker- |
| 21:53.16 | Pkekyo|edu | ~dict refraction |
| 21:53.17 | Stanzilla | *damn |
| 21:53.18 | Shirik | polycarb is on the level of most optical glass |
| 21:53.32 | DARKGuy | trh, what's the difference? and can you use Java with Apache? :P |
| 21:53.51 | Pkekyo|edu | Shirik: I'm a bit dense, care to explain in layman's terms what 'refractionm' means? :p |
| 21:53.51 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: maybe in some ways, but not all ways |
| 21:54.04 | Gagorian | Pkekyo|edu: Polycarbonate has higher impact resistance, and is usually used for eye protection by military, SWAT etc. |
| 21:54.13 | Shirik | basically as light enters it at an angle |
| 21:54.14 | Stanzilla | btw pidgin 2.4.2 is out |
| 21:54.16 | Shirik | it bends |
| 21:54.22 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, well if you're lazy asp is the right thing for you |
| 21:54.23 | trh | DARKGuy: you can use apache-tomcat or jboss, basically you have a function doGet and doPost, which get called everytime a request happens (when you use servlets) and session management etc. |
| 21:54.25 | Pkekyo|edu | ah, that's what I was looking for, thanks Gagorian |
| 21:54.27 | Arrowmaster | he also bitches about their complete lack of competentice for security all the time too, such as checking for a cookie to see if the user previously checked the 'remember me' login box then inserting the username and password directly into the html |
| 21:54.33 | Shirik | an index of refraction of 1 means it doesn't bend at all |
| 21:54.36 | Shirik | (from air to it) |
| 21:54.42 | Pkekyo|edu | Shirik: the light or the material? |
| 21:54.45 | Shirik | the light |
| 21:54.46 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: well, I won't be doing the templating stuff, just the code-behinds, mostly |
| 21:54.47 | Pkekyo|edu | ah |
| 21:54.49 | Pkekyo|edu | ok |
| 21:54.55 | [Liquidor] | I know ckknight |
| 21:55.03 | [Liquidor] | That's why I hope the new webteam works onder |
| 21:55.06 | Pkekyo|edu | either way, ballistic properties was what I really needed to know...thanks to you both :) |
| 21:55.17 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Snells_law.svg |
| 21:55.18 | Shirik | np |
| 21:55.30 | CIA-42 | 03linsu * r74200 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - update zhTW |
| 21:55.40 | trh | DARKGuy: with the right framework you just do stuff like: "SCheckBox checkBox1 = new SCheckBox("Click This for World Domination"); myPanel.add(checkBox1); checkBox1.addActionListener(new ActionListener() { void valueChanged(...) { } }); =) |
| 21:55.52 | Pkekyo|edu | Shirik: oh, right...kinda like how light spreads through a prism (except this just changes direction?) |
| 21:56.02 | CIA-42 | 03linsu * r74201 10Baggins_AnywhereBags/Core.lua: Baggins_AnywhereBags: - update zhTW |
| 21:56.02 | Shirik | actually it's the same concept |
| 21:56.06 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: there's 3 of us working on the new curse.com for right now (we're looking for one more). One is the author of WoWDB, there's me, and there's one who is the senior developer, has quite a bit of experience doing similar things. We also have an html/templating guy who is pretty good at what he does |
| 21:56.11 | nevcairiel | hm, rebooting to install the hotfix |
| 21:56.26 | trh | DARKGuy: and you automatically get a nice checkbox on your site with ajax to call your valueCahnged method in the actionlistener when the button is clicked |
| 21:56.31 | Gagorian | Pkekyo|edu: http://www.safety-housejpa.fi/kuvat/t3_18.jpg an example.. that's 2.2mm polycarbonate |
| 21:56.32 | Shirik | well, somewhat |
| 21:56.35 | Pkekyo|edu | cool...so for both ballistic purposes and vision-wise, polycarbonate would be the better choise then? |
| 21:56.36 | Shirik | anyway, I have to run |
| 21:56.43 | Pkekyo|edu | g'byes |
| 21:56.53 | Gagorian | Bollé X800. Used by special troops for example |
| 21:56.55 | Pkekyo|edu | Gagorian: Bollé x800? |
| 21:56.57 | Pkekyo|edu | yeah |
| 21:57.06 | Pkekyo|edu | considered buying a pair |
| 21:57.07 | trh | DARKGuy: you basically code like you're writing a desktop gui |
| 21:57.07 | Gagorian | I own a pair myself |
| 21:57.28 | Pkekyo|edu | but meh, I prefer glasses over goggles...still have to find a pair that fits perfect to the shape of my head though |
| 21:57.59 | Pkekyo|edu | yeah, the Bollé x800s are really great...they're the goggles I resent the least :p |
| 21:58.04 | Gagorian | Those are rather comfortable. What would you use them for? |
| 21:58.04 | DARKGuy | trh, Oo well that's kinda confusing. It looks more like C# instead. For doing something like that in my framework it would be like "fwBeginForm(); fwCheckbox("myID","myCBname",false); fwDeclareFormElements(); fwEndForm();". Value will be passed through post so it's easy as "$cbValue = fwGetElement("myCBname")" :P |
| 21:58.17 | DARKGuy | trh, yeah that's what annoys me, web apps aren't desktop GUIs |
| 21:58.24 | trh | DARKGuy: framwork does the rest, you only have to do build the gui from components and build some logic around it - don't care about sessions etc, the framework handles it automatically |
| 21:58.29 | Pkekyo|edu | Gagorian: fragmentation protection basicly...though bulletproof glasses would be awesome! :p |
| 21:58.47 | trh | DARKGuy: sure they aren't, but they consist of the same elements basically |
| 21:58.58 | nevcairiel | yay no more crashes |
| 21:59.21 | DARKGuy | trh, well that's true :P |
| 21:59.27 | Pkekyo|edu | I feel a bit claustrophobic, if you can call it that, whilst wearing goggles though... |
| 22:00.19 | Pkekyo|edu | bwahahah, bloody brilliant! |
| 22:00.20 | Pkekyo|edu | I found "Allo! Allo!" online :D |
| 22:00.32 | trh | DARKGuy: and the best thing: you can combine it with process-management and business logic |
| 22:00.42 | trh | DARKGuy: cause these apis are often java |
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| 22:03.05 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, same template guy as curse v4/cf? |
| 22:03.11 | charon | uh. i just killed a mob by Mangle at an angle where i couldn't autoattack it. wtf |
| 22:03.16 | ckknight | yep, [Liquidor] |
| 22:03.22 | [Liquidor] | :-/ |
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| 22:04.29 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: it should be known that he's not the designer, he just implements the design |
| 22:05.13 | nevcairiel | monkeys can implement a design, if the designer is good at what he does |
| 22:05.25 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, as a designer do you mean working on the framework or the artwork? |
| 22:05.32 | ckknight | art |
| 22:05.40 | [Liquidor] | Arh well the art is lovely |
| 22:05.51 | ckknight | and it's one of those female designer thingies |
| 22:05.53 | ckknight | so she, not he |
| 22:06.02 | ckknight | she doesn't even play WoW, which is kinda funny |
| 22:06.10 | [Liquidor] | Always been (except v2) but the framework is just way too heavy/bad |
| 22:06.42 | ckknight | yea, I agree |
| 22:06.49 | ckknight | well, v3 they switched to Django from PHP |
| 22:07.05 | ckknight | zeeg said he'd be able to get the new curse up in 3 weeks, tops. Took him 7 months. |
| 22:07.24 | [Liquidor] | v5? |
| 22:07.27 | [Liquidor] | v4? |
| 22:07.39 | ckknight | those are just extensions onto v3 |
| 22:07.57 | [Liquidor] | I lost track after v3 :) |
| 22:08.01 | ckknight | same |
| 22:08.17 | ckknight | in any event, the new curse.com isn't changing the design, it will look pretty much the same, it's just a framework change |
| 22:08.37 | ckknight | if anything, it'll be a bit simpler and more addon-oriented |
| 22:08.39 | ckknight | as it should be,. |
| 22:08.40 | ckknight | be* |
| 22:08.43 | clad|away | Antiarc: thanks |
| 22:09.02 | [Liquidor] | Well |
| 22:09.28 | [Liquidor] | What's wrong with Blogs, Forums, News Feeds, ItemDB, AddonDev all in one? :)) |
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| 22:09.35 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: well, those will be there |
| 22:09.43 | ckknight | Blogs are provided by Community Server out of the box |
| 22:09.48 | ckknight | ItemDB is handled by WoWDB |
| 22:09.58 | ckknight | News feeds is handled by CS |
| 22:10.01 | ckknight | Forums by vBulletin |
| 22:10.23 | ckknight | Addon development stuff doesn't need any administration to it, all handled by curseforge. All it needs to do is show addons |
| 22:10.43 | trh | so curse is basically a aggregator for all of the above? |
| 22:10.47 | trh | or will be |
| 22:10.48 | ckknight | ...sorta |
| 22:10.56 | [Liquidor] | It's become that yes |
| 22:11.02 | ckknight | which isn't really a bad thing, imho |
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| 22:11.51 | trh | ckknight: it can end bad if one of the above interferes (for any reason) with another one |
| 22:11.59 | [Liquidor] | Imho everything should be within one community. |
| 22:12.19 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: I like the separation of devs from users, cause users are dum |
| 22:12.21 | [Liquidor] | And yes I know Curse Profiles are shared |
| 22:12.21 | Gnarfoz | ~seen elsia |
| 22:12.23 | purl | elsia <i=elsiarow@p57A2731D.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 2h 9m 32s ago, saying: 'heya'. |
| 22:12.30 | Gnarfoz | someone needs to make Recount a bit more fake-proof :D |
| 22:12.34 | ckknight | trh: how do you mean? |
| 22:12.56 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, that can still be done |
| 22:12.58 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: What is your problem? |
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| 22:13.26 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, the idea of portals could be merged into portals of features instead of games. |
| 22:13.27 | trh | ckknight: if some code or client element/functionality on a page where one or more of the "components" appear breaks another component |
| 22:13.27 | ckknight | [Liquidor]: well, that's the curseforge/curse distinction, really. curseforge is for developers and power users, curse is for normal users |
| 22:13.39 | trh | ckknight: i.e. the javascritp namespaces collide or something.. it shouldn't happen |
| 22:13.49 | ckknight | trh: ick, that'd be bad |
| 22:13.51 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: the combat log handling function is globally accessible, you can just call it/feed it fake combat log lines and it will count them in and even sync send them |
| 22:13.52 | trh | ckknight: but mistakes happen |
| 22:13.53 | ckknight | but no, that shouldn't happen |
| 22:13.59 | CIA-42 | 03odlaw * r74202 10PassLoot/ (Constants.lua Locale-enUS.lua PassLoot.lua PassLoot.xml): |
| 22:13.59 | CIA-42 | PassLoot: |
| 22:13.59 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.59 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.30 | trh | ckknight: yea.. but if it does, it's really hard to find/debug |
| 22:14.30 | exor674 | Gnarfoz: you can also just fake the event, I'm pretty sure :P |
| 22:14.32 | CIA-42 | 03ascalia * r74203 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 22:14.32 | CIA-42 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 22:14.32 | CIA-42 | - Sunwell update |
| 22:14.40 | [Liquidor] | http://www.elitepvpers.de/forum/wow-exploits-hacks-tools-macros/126273-how-put-yourself-top-damage-meters-recount-mod.html |
| 22:14.42 | Gnarfoz | exor674: fake what event |
| 22:14.42 | charon | Gnarfoz: i think if your raid/whatever members purposely lie to you about their damage/healing/..., you have more profound problems than wrong numbers in recount |
| 22:14.45 | Gnarfoz | [Liquidor]: indeed |
| 22:15.01 | Gnarfoz | charon: is that a reason to keep it easy to do si? |
| 22:15.04 | Gnarfoz | *so |
| 22:15.24 | [Liquidor] | I meantioned that link in the video of the 6k dps warrior and now the entire WoW web is argueing about it. |
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| 22:16.08 | Gnarfoz | you did, although it's not entirely impossible that it's real, either xD I tend to find your explanation more likely though |
| 22:16.09 | Matrix110 | wow they use a stacking 100% haste buff |
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| 22:16.46 | charon | Gnarfoz: not really, but if you block it on the Recount:foo() side, someone will come up with a fake SendAddonMessage() command. |
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| 22:17.16 | [Liquidor] | Block it from the chatbox |
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| 22:17.22 | [Liquidor] | or chat event or w/e |
| 22:17.36 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: Violation doesn't sync. If you need something to verify against, run that alongside whatever other damage meter you use. |
| 22:17.44 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: ? wtf :p |
| 22:17.53 | [Liquidor] | if input == hack blah blah { Recount doesn't like that Mister!!! } |
| 22:18.02 | vhaarr | and it's only 230kb of memory anyway, way lighter than the others |
| 22:18.12 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: this is not about who I can trust, I just think this should be prevented |
| 22:18.19 | vhaarr | it can't be prevented |
| 22:18.38 | Gnarfoz | also, I already run Violation, even though it's nigh-useless for anything besides "raid dmg from the entire run" |
| 22:18.56 | Gnarfoz | charon: so I shouldn't lock my door because someone could always smash in my window? right ^^ |
| 22:19.08 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: that's what I use a damage meter for, so that's what Violation does |
| 22:19.18 | vhaarr | you can reset it between boss fights if you want total damage done on one fight |
| 22:19.24 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
| 22:19.39 | vhaarr | I accept patche |
| 22:19.40 | vhaarr | s |
| 22:19.47 | vhaarr | but I don't accept workload |
| 22:19.51 | Gnarfoz | great, and all, but still not related to what my initial point was :> |
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| 22:19.59 | charon | Gnarfoz: that analogy doesn't work because either breaking open the door or the window is noticeable. you cannot, possibly, secure recount against sync exploits unless you completely block all sync reception, which is what i consider the analogue of locking your door. |
| 22:19.59 | vhaarr | yeah but forget your point |
| 22:20.08 | nevcairiel | addons should hide their functions that are not part of a public API in local vars =P |
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| 22:20.14 | Gnarfoz | Violation does what Violation does, Recount is something entirely different |
| 22:20.20 | vhaarr | what charon managed to say in 50 words, and nevcairiel in 10 |
| 22:20.22 | vhaarr | I can say in 3 |
| 22:20.24 | vhaarr | no wait, 2 |
| 22:20.27 | vhaarr | forget |
| 22:20.27 | vhaarr | and it |
| 22:20.33 | charon | applauds vhaarr |
| 22:20.49 | Gnarfoz | I have to quote the most annoying troll I've ever encountered: |
| 22:20.50 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: you managed to make your 2 words use 2 lines .. thats even more fail |
| 22:20.53 | Gnarfoz | facepalm |
| 22:20.57 | charon | perhaps a sync toggle in recount would fulfill your needs |
| 22:21.07 | Gnarfoz | recount HAS a sync toggle |
| 22:21.14 | Gnarfoz | last I looked, it dit |
| 22:21.16 | charon | for the receiving end |
| 22:21.35 | charon | and somehow i can't find it anymore, either |
| 22:21.39 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I didn't even read what you said :P |
| 22:21.49 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: but yeah I agree with you, the API should be hidden |
| 22:21.58 | Gnarfoz | <@nevcairiel> addons should hide their functions that are not part of a public API in local vars =P <-- this is all I asked, basically :P |
| 22:22.32 | vhaarr | as long as the addon accepts comm input you can fool it |
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| 22:22.41 | Gnarfoz | YAY WHO CARES :P |
| 22:22.46 | vhaarr | of course you can take some measures to prevent it |
| 22:22.50 | charon | obviously you do. |
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| 22:22.59 | exor674 | and if you make it private, all the dude will do is go and make it a global again :P |
| 22:23.19 | exor674 | and 'oh hay, I'm sending out false data again and look I'm doing 6 bil DPS' |
| 22:23.38 | Gnarfoz | exor674: well, the same annoying fucker who'd do something like this are likely too lazy to edit their local copy. :p |
| 22:23.47 | charon | Gnarfoz: it's elementary network security. you can't trust the other guy's computer unless you also trust the other guy. |
| 22:24.02 | Gnarfoz | charon: ARHHHHGHH who ever talked about network security or other bullshit |
| 22:24.03 | dashkal | erm... isn't this a problem better solved by not inviting the twit who is more worried about hceating damage meters than raiding? |
| 22:24.13 | nevcairiel | charon: And you cant trust the other guy unless he is you, or your clone :) |
| 22:24.21 | trh | charon: i believe their names were trent, alice and bob ;) |
| 22:24.27 | Hjalte | charon: The recount sync toggle is in the blizzard recount options, not the recount options window. |
| 22:24.30 | Gnarfoz | I was just asking if it wouldn't make sense to make private part of Recounts functions that are NOT part of its public API |
| 22:24.37 | charon | Hjalte: oh that's cool, thanks |
| 22:24.54 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz: then nevcairiel had the answer for you; yes it would make sense |
| 22:25.10 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: If you want to see if someone is cheating on the damage meter, look in their details tab. That is not synced. |
| 22:25.18 | nevcairiel | to some degree, people could really just run around and add global entrys to those funcs |
| 22:25.20 | nevcairiel | but meh :P |
| 22:25.22 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: I don't want to see if someone is cheating. |
| 22:26.10 | [Liquidor] | Where can I read more about the variables set in files when commiting? like $rev ? |
| 22:26.12 | nevcairiel | thats why we generally base data on WWS, and not ingame stuff |
| 22:26.27 | Arrowmaster | [Liquidor]: google svn keywords |
| 22:26.40 | Gnarfoz | wws uses wow's combat logs, which you can also influence, I'd say ;} |
| 22:26.41 | [SW]Dodge | AH ftw :> netherweave buyout 2,5-2,75g sold as 10heave bandage 3g ;D -> 20minutes craftig |
| 22:26.56 | [Liquidor] | Arrowmaster, same keywords in all reps? |
| 22:26.59 | Gnarfoz | anyway, *scribbles down to poke Elsia about it* |
| 22:27.00 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: sure, but some cheater cant influence my logs now, or can he? |
| 22:27.05 | Arrowmaster | [Liquidor]: yes |
| 22:27.10 | exor674 | Gnarfoz: if you don't trust the guild leader, /gquit :P |
| 22:27.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no, but then you could just as well not sync |
| 22:27.15 | Gnarfoz | exor674: SRSLY |
| 22:27.16 | [Liquidor] | Arrowmaster, nice didn't know |
| 22:27.16 | exor674 | or raid leader |
| 22:27.23 | dylanm | Well, that's what he's saying. |
| 22:27.24 | Gnarfoz | exor674: can you not read |
| 22:27.30 | [Liquidor] | Arrowmaster, I thought it was wowace specific |
| 22:27.46 | dylanm | [Liquidor]: Nope. |
| 22:27.52 | Arrowmaster | [Liquidor]: theres nothing wowace specific about the wowace svn |
| 22:27.56 | exor674 | Gnarfoz: I have no idea what you just said, I can't read... |
| 22:28.08 | Gnarfoz | exor674: I noticed |
| 22:28.12 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: we have wowace specific pre and post hooks :D |
| 22:28.28 | Arrowmaster | didnt think there was a post hook anymore |
| 22:28.38 | Arrowmaster | and the pre hook is just a limiter |
| 22:29.30 | nevcairiel | ya i think its all pre-hooks these days |
| 22:29.38 | nevcairiel | some luac post-hook would be cool, though |
| 22:29.54 | Gnarfoz | luac -p "fuck you translators" xD |
| 22:30.34 | CIA-42 | 03adirelle * r74204 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua: |
| 22:30.34 | CIA-42 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 22:30.35 | CIA-42 | - removed locales where they are useless (configuration data). |
| 22:30.44 | charon | Gnarfoz: after digging through a bit of the code, it seems the sync toggle also disables receiving. so there's your solution. |
| 22:31.13 | Gnarfoz | charon: you, like exor674, show a really shocking failure at reading today |
| 22:31.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:31.51 | Gnarfoz | although I appreciate the effort <3 |
| 22:31.59 | mikma | no you don't |
| 22:32.53 | charon | Gnarfoz: i guess being illiterate somehow correlates with being able to rationally think about comms security? |
| 22:32.58 | Gnarfoz | I could have phrased it "sorry for the time you wasted", but I chose to phrase it differently ;) |
| 22:33.56 | Gnarfoz | charon: I never asked about comms security, trust issues, raid leading or whatnot, I just had the insane idea that stuff that isn't part of the public API should, perhaps, not be public/global |
| 22:34.48 | Gnarfoz | a classic misunderstanding ^^ |
| 22:34.48 | nymbia | globals are the best thing ever |
| 22:34.48 | nevcairiel | most devs wouldnt really go through the trouble |
| 22:34.49 | Gnarfoz | I like _, nymbia |
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| 22:35.37 | nymbia | i think ill go name some critical functions that and then complain when other addons break them |
| 22:35.51 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:35.53 | charon | Gnarfoz: no, you originally asked about making it "more fake-proof". which is pointless, because it can never be. |
| 22:36.05 | Gnarfoz | more != perfectly |
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| 22:37.13 | Gnarfoz | I'm unlikely to ever have problems with any "meter fakers", anyway, just suggesting =) |
| 22:38.54 | nevcairiel | if i ever catch someone doing that in my raid .. man that would be fun =) |
| 22:39.32 | charon | i do wonder if the guy who posted that would go to the trouble of inventing a similar line for Threat-2.0 ... it would be almost, but not quite, entirely unlike sensible |
| 22:40.00 | nevcairiel | should be equally easy |
| 22:40.06 | charon | of course |
| 22:40.33 | nevcairiel | its so easy to forge the new CLEU |
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| 22:46.49 | breser | I'd like to say I'm shocked someone would do that but I'm not. |
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| 22:48.00 | charon | heh, in fact i think it's just plain impossible to hide the CLEU handler in an Ace3 addon. you can always get at it via the AceEvent-3.0 embeds table. even if none of the mods' variables are global! |
| 22:48.11 | [Liquidor] | ckknight, bad boy! http://static.curseforge.net/uploads/19/0/6/screen.png |
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| 22:48.54 | ckknight | feel free to go through my code, I'd like some input on it if you're willing to provide some |
| 22:48.58 | breser | [Liquidor]: Ohhhhh, where's the addon that produces that? |
| 22:49.25 | [Liquidor] | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/fprof/ |
| 22:49.40 | [Liquidor] | /fp e |
| 22:49.40 | [Liquidor] | /fp a Cartographer3 |
| 22:49.40 | [Liquidor] | /fp s |
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| 22:54.54 | Yasuo | is teher an addon to click away error messages? |
| 22:55.19 | Arrowmaster | disable them in interface options? |
| 22:55.29 | CIA-42 | 03archarodim * r74205 10LibBabble-Inventory-3.0/LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 22:55.29 | CIA-42 | LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: |
| 22:55.29 | CIA-42 | - Fix 'Pet' translation for frFR (many others are missing) |
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| 22:57.30 | Gnarfoz | fix the errors? :D |
| 23:01.46 | Zyndrome | UI-errors that pop up in right in your face |
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| 23:02.42 | vithos | Zyndrome: <Arrowmaster> disable them in interface options |
| 23:03.08 | vithos | there's also BugSack |
| 23:07.08 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r74206 10AckisRecipeList/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:07.08 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:07.08 | CIA-42 | - Add expand/collapse all button for the gui (new localizations needed) |
| 23:07.08 | CIA-42 | - Smelt Adamantite -> 325 skill |
| 23:07.09 | CIA-42 | - Covnerted engeineering recipes to new system (all engineering localizations will have to be updated except enUS) |
| 23:07.10 | CIA-42 | - Compressed some duplicate localizations that resulted from the converstion of engineering |
| 23:07.14 | CIA-42 | - Version bump |
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| 23:11.28 | DARKGuy | what's the best way to do a regexp? I mean, if I want to grab all cloth items (*cloth), potions (Major * potion) or motes (Mote of *), for example, what could be the best way? checking against keys of a table of course |
| 23:12.22 | Xinhuan | be more specific? |
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| 23:13.16 | DARKGuy | well I want to add a wildcard/regexp feature to my Magnet autolooter addon. It gets kinda annoying to add runecloth, netherweave cloth, silk cloth, etc. Instead of just typing *cloth, or something |
| 23:13.33 | Xinhuan | what do yu want the code to do |
| 23:13.49 | DARKGuy | interpret the * |
| 23:13.55 | DARKGuy | or whatever there is to use |
| 23:13.57 | Xinhuan | "I want to grab all cloth items (*cloth)" |
| 23:13.59 | Xinhuan | grab from where |
| 23:14.14 | DARKGuy | facepalms |
| 23:14.16 | DARKGuy | ok |
| 23:14.27 | DARKGuy | gimme a sec :P |
| 23:14.31 | Lukian | DARKGuy, periodictable 3 - cloth category? :p |
| 23:14.37 | Xinhuan | i did tell you to be more specific |
| 23:14.48 | DARKGuy | Lukian, never used it |
| 23:14.55 | Lukian | it's a library |
| 23:15.25 | Lukian | I just autoloot everything :p |
| 23:15.27 | Lukian | kek |
| 23:15.42 | DARKGuy | Lukian, well duh, but I've never used it, is there any documentation? |
| 23:15.52 | CIA-42 | 03nargiddley 07RC1 * r74207 10Ace3/AceGUI-3.0/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - AceGUI: Fix for TabGroup not wrapping tabs in some situations |
| 23:16.11 | DARKGuy | Xinhuan, http://ace.pastey.net/87986 |
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| 23:16.59 | DARKGuy | Xinhuan, user adds item names in self.db.char.items, whereas items["my item"]=true. |
| 23:17.36 | Xinhuan | so you want to "compact" 20 different cloth entries in the table into 1 entry? |
| 23:17.58 | DARKGuy | yeah something like that |
| 23:18.02 | Arrowmaster | not going to happen |
| 23:18.18 | Arrowmaster | unless you change the code for the checking |
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| 23:18.20 | Lukian | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PeriodicTable-3.0/API |
| 23:18.30 | Xinhuan | well, if you let the user add wildcards, you're going to have to use code to do regex matching instead |
| 23:18.35 | Xinhuan | which isn't very clean |
| 23:18.38 | Lukian | might be outdated, but should be somewhat relevant |
| 23:18.50 | DARKGuy | Xinhuan, well it's what I'm expecting to use. I just don't know how would I do to apply it here |
| 23:18.59 | DARKGuy | Lukian, I'll check, thanks ^^ |
| 23:19.08 | Xinhuan | you'll do something like |
| 23:19.36 | Xinhuan | if strmatch(".*cloth", name) then autoloot end |
| 23:19.45 | Xinhuan | umm i mean the other way around |
| 23:19.47 | Arrowmaster | 'if (self.db.char.items[name]) then' is in the code right now |
| 23:19.56 | Xinhuan | if strmatch(name, ".*cloth") then autoloot end |
| 23:20.05 | Xinhuan | oh strmatch, needs a capture |
| 23:20.10 | Xinhuan | if strmatch(name, "(.*)cloth") then autoloot end |
| 23:20.10 | Arrowmaster | no it doesnt |
| 23:20.12 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 23:20.23 | Xinhuan | yeah it does, else it returns nil |
| 23:20.27 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 23:20.37 | Arrowmaster | and that last one you posted is completely wrong |
| 23:20.41 | Xinhuan | you're thinking of strfind |
| 23:21.35 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.match("(.*)cloth", "silk cloth") |
| 23:21.36 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 23:21.40 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("netherweave cloth", "(.*)cloth") |
| 23:21.41 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: netherweave |
| 23:21.42 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.match(".*cloth", "silk cloth") |
| 23:21.42 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 23:21.53 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("netherweave cloth", ".*cloth") |
| 23:21.53 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: netherweave cloth |
| 23:22.22 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("Netherweave Cloth", ".*[cC]loth") |
| 23:22.23 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: Netherweave Cloth |
| 23:22.32 | Xinhuan | anyway DARKGuy, i suggest you stick with your table |
| 23:22.34 | Arrowmaster | hes doing a string.lower already |
| 23:22.44 | Xinhuan | otherwise you need to add a lot of complications |
| 23:23.09 | DARKGuy | hmmm >:/ |
| 23:24.15 | Arrowmaster | 'if (self.db.char.items[name]) then' to 'for k,v in pairs(self.db.char.items) do if string.match(name, k) then' |
| 23:25.24 | Arrowmaster | maybe change 'string.match(name, k)' to 'string.match("^"..name.."$", k)' |
| 23:25.42 | Xinhuan | you see, if you go with the strmatch() approach, then you will need to loop over your entire table, and compare the strings to see if the regex matches |
| 23:26.02 | Xinhuan | whereas if you don't allow it, then its just a direct simple table lookup |
| 23:26.17 | Xinhuan | one lookup, vs iterating over the table until something matches (or nothing matches) |
| 23:26.29 | Xinhuan | see what i mean about complications? |
| 23:26.59 | DARKGuy | it isn't that complicated o_O... besides the table will be smaller too |
| 23:27.26 | Xinhuan | it really depends |
| 23:27.33 | DARKGuy | a table with "silk cloth","wool cloth","runecloth","netherweave cloth","linen cloth" is bigger than "(.*)cloth" |
| 23:27.48 | Xinhuan | yes, but if you have 20 entries |
| 23:28.03 | Arrowmaster | the table may be smaller but it will do more processing each time |
| 23:28.10 | Xinhuan | say "(.*)cloth", "(.*)cloth(.*)", "cloth(.*)" |
| 23:28.17 | Xinhuan | and a lot ofothers to match motes, primals etc |
| 23:28.23 | Xinhuan | you end up doing more work |
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| 23:28.34 | Xinhuan | especially if the last entry is the matching one, or nothnig matches |
| 23:28.35 | DARKGuy | hmm... |
| 23:28.47 | Arrowmaster | and you might end up with other issues |
| 23:28.52 | Xinhuan | if you have 20 regexes to match, you're going to be strmatch() all 20 |
| 23:28.55 | Xinhuan | and find that none match |
| 23:28.59 | Arrowmaster | like any other items that end in cloth |
| 23:29.03 | DARKGuy | what about getting the item ID through an item link (if that's ever possible), then using LibPeriodicTable to check instead? |
| 23:29.04 | Xinhuan | rather than ONE lookup htat either matches or not |
| 23:29.20 | Xinhuan | then there's also the fact that there are items that end in "cloth" that you might not want to loot |
| 23:29.23 | Xinhuan | some grey items |
| 23:29.26 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 23:29.27 | Arrowmaster | DARKGuy: why would you use libperiodictable? |
| 23:29.48 | Xinhuan | periodic table isn't any better than your approach, its exactly the same |
| 23:29.56 | Xinhuan | the only difference is, you use English Names |
| 23:30.00 | Xinhuan | periodic table uses the itemID |
| 23:30.06 | DARKGuy | d'oh :/ |
| 23:30.09 | Arrowmaster | and i would use GetItemInfo() over LPT in this case |
| 23:30.17 | Xinhuan | so you don't need to worrk about the localization |
| 23:30.20 | Xinhuan | in the itemID case |
| 23:30.34 | Xinhuan | its still a table of all the cloth" |
| 23:30.37 | DARKGuy | how come XLoot can determine if the item is a quest item, a reagent, cloth or such? |
| 23:30.47 | Arrowmaster | DARKGuy: GetItemInfo() |
| 23:30.49 | Xinhuan | do GetItemInfo() on it |
| 23:30.51 | DARKGuy | I could try to use that instead |
| 23:30.53 | Xinhuan | and read the return values |
| 23:31.05 | Arrowmaster | return values are localized for those |
| 23:31.07 | Xinhuan | there is a type and subtype return value |
| 23:31.22 | Xinhuan | cloth would generally be classified as "Trade Goods" type |
| 23:31.32 | Arrowmaster | its whatever it is in the AH |
| 23:31.35 | Xinhuan | they correspond to the categories you see on the AH |
| 23:31.47 | DARKGuy | Well that's more friendly now =) |
| 23:31.58 | Xinhuan | not necessarily |
| 23:32.05 | Xinhuan | Motes and Primals are also trade goods |
| 23:32.08 | DARKGuy | I could do a search for type/subtype instead, less processing than a regex ? |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-42 | 03Footrot * r74208 10GhostPulse/ (5 files): |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-42 | GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-05-18 |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-42 | - Fixed a problem with the pulse size and Chinese fonts. |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-42 | - Fixed Mob Debuffs showing an early warning for spells that were still on cooldown. |
| 23:32.19 | CIA-42 | - Fixed a problem with the Life Tap alert showing on-screen even if you're not a warlock. |
| 23:32.21 | Xinhuan | you could, but again this might not be what you want |
| 23:32.29 | Arrowmaster | trade goods is only a type, not a subtype |
| 23:32.30 | DARKGuy | no it isn't, but it's an alternative |
| 23:32.35 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 23:32.35 | Xinhuan | its a very very broad category |
| 23:32.46 | Xinhuan | where you can't choose to exclude something out of it |
| 23:32.55 | Xinhuan | unless you code in exception tables |
| 23:33.02 | Xinhuan | wow often categorizes something incorrectly too |
| 23:33.18 | Arrowmaster | theyve been trying to fix some of those though |
| 23:33.20 | Xinhuan | you can see in the patch notes once in a while "XYZ item will now show up under ABC category" |
| 23:33.44 | Xinhuan | also something like "Light Leather" is a trade good, but you might think of it as "leatherworking" |
| 23:34.07 | Arrowmaster | reagent |
| 23:34.15 | DARKGuy | d'oh |
| 23:34.16 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 23:34.40 | Xinhuan | technically, all cloth, motes and primals are reagents too |
| 23:34.47 | Xinhuan | but they are "trade goods" |
| 23:34.56 | DARKGuy | it's so unconsistent |
| 23:34.56 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 23:35.14 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 23:35.33 | Xinhuan | it depends on what you want |
| 23:35.48 | DARKGuy | Well what about making my own table with my own item categories and items, and use that instead? |
| 23:35.48 | DARKGuy | well |
| 23:36.01 | Arrowmaster | excessive |
| 23:36.11 | Arrowmaster | better off just adding all the items |
| 23:36.25 | Xinhuan | you have to decide how specific or generalized your tables are |
| 23:36.28 | DARKGuy | I want the user to select something like "Loot all cloth" or "Loot all for leatherworking" or "Loot all engineering item" |
| 23:36.41 | DARKGuy | or "Loot all motes" |
| 23:36.47 | Xinhuan | and yet that's problematic, an item can be used in more than one profession |
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| 23:37.03 | Xinhuan | so you end up needing to define your own tables of categories, and what items belongs to which |
| 23:37.09 | Arrowmaster | for that you would probably have to use LPT-3.1 |
| 23:37.22 | Xinhuan | so as far as that goes, periodictable already ahs most of that info |
| 23:37.34 | Xinhuan | mainly for bag sorting/display addons |
| 23:38.35 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r74209 10BasicChatMods/ (BasicChatMods.toc chatcopy.lua): |
| 23:38.35 | CIA-42 | BasicChatMods: v2.1 |
| 23:38.35 | CIA-42 | - URLCopy has been replaced by ChatCopy |
| 23:38.35 | CIA-42 | - URLCopy is still there commented out, use it if you wish, it's buggy because I'm too lazy to fix it properly, I might one day if requested enough. |
| 23:39.10 | Funkeh` | mikma, ^ |
| 23:39.22 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: why not copy the urlcopy in chatter? |
| 23:39.36 | Funkeh` | Arrowmas1er`, the urlcopy in chatter is copied from bcm |
| 23:39.42 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 23:39.42 | Arrowmaster | is not |
| 23:39.49 | Funkeh` | it is |
| 23:39.51 | Arrowmaster | because i replaced it |
| 23:39.55 | Xinhuan | and if you read chatter's thread, you'll see the url copy isn't perfect |
| 23:40.03 | Arrowmaster | whats wrong with it? |
| 23:40.09 | Xinhuan | its in the first few pages |
| 23:40.15 | Arrowmaster | oh first? |
| 23:40.15 | Xinhuan | often highlights the wrong parts of the urls |
| 23:40.25 | Arrowmaster | if its the first then thats before i replaced it |
| 23:40.42 | Funkeh` | and your version works perfect? |
| 23:40.47 | Arrowmaster | almost |
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| 23:41.03 | dylanm | Wait are we looking for perfect now |
| 23:41.18 | Xinhuan | code perfection is always a good ideal to strive for ;p |
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| 23:41.49 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 23:41.54 | Funkeh` | see thats what I was afraid of |
| 23:41.59 | Funkeh` | having to add all the tlds |
| 23:42.13 | Arrowmaster | it works |
| 23:42.51 | Arrowmaster | i might remove the (www%.[%w_-%%]+%.%S+) pattern since it catches too much sometimes |
| 23:43.01 | DARKGuy | Well I think I'll go for item type and subtype then. If it doesn't work good in the long run I'll remove it then. |
| 23:43.04 | Xinhuan | like what? |
| 23:43.33 | Arrowmaster | like when somebody does 'www.someurl.com!' |
| 23:43.38 | Ackis | http://www.boehse-elfz.at/Bilder/frostmourne.jpg |
| 23:43.46 | Xinhuan | well isn't that an url? |
| 23:43.55 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:43.55 | Xinhuan | because it certainly is |
| 23:44.05 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 23:44.05 | DARKGuy | no? :/ |
| 23:44.11 | Arrowmaster | because the ! |
| 23:44.11 | Xinhuan | why is that not an url |
| 23:44.37 | Xinhuan | so add a [^!]? |
| 23:44.41 | DARKGuy | there isn't a regex to remove symbols? |
| 23:44.50 | Arrowmaster | sigh |
| 23:45.07 | DARKGuy | !"·$%&/()=?¿ those can't be used in URLs |
| 23:45.07 | Arrowmaster | but what about www.someurl.com/page! |
| 23:45.13 | Arrowmaster | where the ! is actually part of the url |
| 23:45.16 | Xinhuan | you're saying that "!" isn't part of the url, but you're capturing the "!" as well? |
| 23:45.43 | Xinhuan | or am i not understanding you? |
| 23:45.48 | Arrowmaster | notice the %S+ at the end of the pattern |
| 23:46.11 | Arrowmaster | it looks for anything starting with www. that looks remotely like a url and captures all of it until a space |
| 23:46.22 | Xinhuan | don't use %S+ then |
| 23:46.28 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 23:46.36 | Arrowmaster | which is why i thought about removing that pattern |
| 23:47.20 | Xinhuan | replace it with [%a/%%]+ should be sufficient |
| 23:47.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:47.45 | Xinhuan | which would match all alphanumeric, / and % |
| 23:47.50 | Arrowmaster | which isnt enough |
| 23:48.20 | Xinhuan | sigh, i am giving an example... just keep adding stuff until its enough |
| 23:48.34 | Arrowmaster | then it would be equal to %S+ |
| 23:48.58 | Xinhuan | you just said "!" can't be part of a URL |
| 23:49.03 | Arrowmaster | no i didnt |
| 23:49.07 | Arrowmaster | i said .com! cant |
| 23:49.07 | Xinhuan | so you want a set of chars that doesn't include ! |
| 23:49.18 | Arrowmaster | .com/page! can |
| 23:49.32 | Arrowmaster | same with .com? |
| 23:49.40 | Arrowmaster | but ? can deffently be part of a url |
| 23:49.54 | Xinhuan | so its not valid only at the domain part? |
| 23:49.58 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:50.19 | Xinhuan | split that into 2 regexes then |
| 23:50.20 | Arrowmaster | and if i remove the pattern nothing is really lost |
| 23:50.23 | Xinhuan | one that ends in a domain |
| 23:50.26 | Xinhuan | and one that doesn't |
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| 23:52.34 | Xinhuan | since its really 2 separate cases |
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| 23:53.14 | Arrowmaster | they both get caught by the latter ([%w_-%%%.]+[%w_-%%]%.(%a%a+)/%S+) and ([%w_-%%%.]+[%w_-%%]%.(%a%a+)) patterns anyway |
| 23:53.46 | CIA-42 | 03adirelle * r74210 10RBM/libs/LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0.lua: RBM: fixed error in LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0 (this should be done in the branch too). |
| 23:53.56 | charon | DARKGuy: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1738.html says you may in fact use $-_.+!*'() in an URL unescaped |
| 23:54.00 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 23:54.03 | Arrowmaster | whos adirelle |
| 23:54.07 | Arrowmaster | and whats this error |
| 23:55.54 | Arrowmaster | WTF |
| 23:55.58 | Arrowmaster | how is that an error |
| 23:56.08 | Arrowmaster | http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/913eb2fb849609bc?hl=en |
| 23:56.12 | Arrowmaster | wtf is this person smoking |
| 23:56.18 | DARKGuy | charon, well that's... true. |
| 23:56.37 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 23:57.01 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: eh, |lib| doesn't exist :P |
| 23:57.23 | vhaarr | |FuBarPlugin| is the traditionally named "lib" object |
| 23:57.28 | charon | i think it would be funny to make a site where every URL ends in ! so that everyone thinks he's clever when he strips it if you link at the end of the sentence like so http://blah/foo! |
| 23:57.28 | Arrowmaster | ohrly |
| 23:57.31 | Arrowmaster | how did i miss that |
| 23:57.49 | vhaarr | your grep-fu is weak, WEAK |
| 23:57.52 | DARKGuy | Arrowmaster, if you stopped smoking you wouldn't have missed that :P |
| 23:57.57 | vhaarr | I smoke |
| 23:58.03 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 23:58.06 | vhaarr | :P |
| 23:58.20 | DARKGuy | I don't :D |
| 23:58.47 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: but yeah usually I don't trust code from adirelle either |
| 23:59.05 | vhaarr | Arrowmaster: he/she was the one who made Violation an abomination some time ago |
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| 23:59.11 | vhaarr | I've since cleaned up most of the mess |
| 23:59.29 | CIA-42 | 03arrowmaster 07FrameworkIndependent * r74211 10LibFuBarPlugin-3.0/LibFuBarPlugin-Mod-3.0.lua: LibFuBarPlugin-3.0: fix a typo in embed upgrading |
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