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| 00:05.05 | Funkeh` | then again, secunia doesn't list it at all, so maybe it's not that popular yet |
| 00:07.10 | Fritos | Is this the right place to ask about SVN and External Libs? |
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| 00:09.15 | profalbert | Fritos: if the wiki-pages didn't give you any answers, i guess |
| 00:09.44 | profalbert | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Category:SVN |
| 00:10.56 | Fritos | I've followed the wiki pages and have them set up correctly, the problem I'm having is when peeps use standalone libs. I seem to be over looking something as they are getting lib errors. |
| 00:12.13 | Fritos | The libs I'm using are included in the OptDeps in the .toc, I'm just wondering if I'm setting it up wrong or they are getting the correct libraries. |
| 00:12.40 | profalbert | Fritos: you have a X-embeds line in your .toc? |
| 00:13.06 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75299 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: |
| 00:13.06 | CIA-42 | TIRaid: |
| 00:13.06 | CIA-42 | - Added some more debug code |
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| 00:14.14 | Fritos | No, I've looked at others .toc and wasn't clear what that does. How does the .toc enable the libs if they are not in the mods, Lib folder. |
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| 00:15.09 | profalbert | Fritus: it's influencing how the addons get downloaded by updaters |
| 00:15.48 | profalbert | i think |
| 00:15.55 | Fritos | I'm new to this SVN/WAU. I've been using WoWInterface/WoWUI to distribute my mod. So guess I'm just trying to understand how this all works through WAU. |
| 00:16.32 | NivFreak | AoC needs mods badly |
| 00:16.33 | NivFreak | hehe |
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| 00:16.52 | profalbert | I think the automatic dependency download (when running with disembedded libs) doesn't work without X-embeds |
| 00:18.17 | Dashkal | How long until AoC gains lua? |
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| 00:19.00 | Zeryl_ | hey all, quick one hopefully, is there a way to show/hide a BT4 bar w/ a macro? Or where would I look to find something like that? |
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| 00:19.44 | Funkeh` | no |
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| 00:20.15 | Neya | got a question here about UnitDebuff that has ailed me quite a bit the late weeks, is it due to my coding or due to UnitDebuff that it sometiems do not return any values for debuffs that are reapplied just before they run out? |
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| 00:21.15 | Fritos | So X-Embed will download the libs, but put them in the addons folder instead of the mods defined Libs folder. I'm just not understanding how the mod enables the Libs, cause I can't seem to get them to work unless they are in the mod folder. |
| 00:22.13 | profalbert | Neya: I think the blizzard_combatlog has some flaws with AURA_REMOVED and AURA_APPLIED events |
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| 00:23.11 | profalbert | you use LibStub to load librarys? |
| 00:23.21 | profalbert | @Fritos |
| 00:23.23 | NivFreak | Dashkal: it's uncertain if they'll ever open up the API |
| 00:23.36 | starlon | bleh why isn't this hook working /sigh |
| 00:24.03 | Fritos | On some, yes. It's an Ace2 mod, with some of the updated libs. |
| 00:24.20 | Dashkal | huh. That's entirely their call, but I'm not interested in the game if it can't be modded. |
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| 00:28.07 | profalbert | Fritos: so if your libs are in the addons-folder but not in the mod-folder itself, the libs can't be referenced? |
| 00:28.57 | NivFreak | Dashkal: I'd link you an interesting thread on thier forum, but they still require accounts to read them |
| 00:29.11 | Dashkal | mmm |
| 00:29.14 | Dashkal | shrugs |
| 00:29.27 | Fritos | Right.. If I run the mod with StandAloneLibs, they don't enable themselves to work with the mod. But if they are in the Libs/ folder that they are referenced in the .toc it runs fine. |
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| 00:29.45 | NivFreak | Dashkal: there's a lot of debate on what' |
| 00:29.46 | NivFreak | er |
| 00:29.50 | Dashkal | If they add support, I'll consider purchase, if not, I won't bother. Modding is why I still play wow despite being bored with the game. Eventually the same thing would happen with AoC (or any other mmo) |
| 00:30.04 | NivFreak | Dashkal: yep, I can understand that |
| 00:30.12 | NivFreak | this thread is well written |
| 00:30.51 | NivFreak | there's a pretty big modders vs antimodders fight going on |
| 00:30.53 | Dashkal | When trial accounts open I'll have a look at the game just to see what it feels like, but we'll see about playing. I'm not nearly excited enough to drop wow for it, though. And WotLK looks too yummy not to play :p |
| 00:31.23 | NivFreak | yea, I've just been screwing around because I'm bored with grinding rep on alts |
| 00:31.25 | NivFreak | and gearing them |
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| 00:31.52 | Dashkal | I've got Nexus to keep me busy. I really need to start laying code down for that... But I gave in and bought the wow book so I'm going to wait for it to arrive first :p |
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| 00:32.58 | NivFreak | WoW was what I'd consider my first MMO |
| 00:33.09 | NivFreak | i'm just a tad curious on how other modern MMOs work |
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| 00:33.22 | Dashkal | It's mine as well. Evercrack just didn't interest me enough to give up muds |
| 00:33.27 | NivFreak | I think AoC has new car smell syndrome for a lot of people |
| 00:33.58 | Dashkal | But I definitely want to _look_ at AoC. I just don't see myself giving this game up for it |
| 00:34.03 | NivFreak | but end game tends to define MMOs it seems, and I'm far from it |
| 00:34.08 | NivFreak | same |
| 00:34.45 | NivFreak | the debate on mods w/ AoC atm seems to be around game design |
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| 00:34.51 | NivFreak | people don't like mods that make the game easier to play |
| 00:34.54 | NivFreak | (some) |
| 00:35.01 | Dashkal | *nods* There's a standing complaint about how Warcraft endgame _requires_ some mods |
| 00:35.12 | NivFreak | because it causes the developers to tune content for that group |
| 00:35.17 | NivFreak | which in turns requires those mods to play |
| 00:35.25 | NivFreak | yea |
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| 00:36.24 | NeoTron | one of the reasons WoW has such a lasting appeal to me is because of addons |
| 00:36.29 | Dashkal | I understand the complaint, but I agree with blizzard's stance on it. The game it tuned to newbies |
| 00:36.37 | NeoTron | "because I can" more so than "because I have to" |
| 00:36.38 | Dashkal | the game interface is tuned to newbies |
| 00:36.52 | Dashkal | Which is a very good thing for making the game accessable. |
| 00:37.02 | NivFreak | and i enjoy the tinker aspect of mods |
| 00:37.05 | Aoie | how to round a number in lua? |
| 00:37.12 | NivFreak | so I don't have a problem with tuning content to the good ones |
| 00:38.24 | NeoTron | lua> math.floor(1.64 + 0.5) |
| 00:38.24 | lua_bot | NeoTron: 2 |
| 00:38.27 | NeoTron | like so |
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| 00:39.59 | Dashkal | Considering I'm coding something that arguably is done better outside of the game mostly for the challenge... Modding is fun in and of itself :p |
| 00:40.03 | NeoTron | although part of it was that I didn't like the classes, a big part of not playing LotRO more than beta was the "static" ui |
| 00:40.22 | Aoie | thx |
| 00:41.01 | NeoTron | it's not until you play other stuff that you realize how solid WoW is imho |
| 00:41.12 | NeoTron | yes the gfx is dated but it still looks and most importantly _feels_ good |
| 00:41.12 | Dashkal | As for the game itself, I have something like 70 mods running, because that's just how I want to see the game world. And nobody else plays exactly the say way I do. This is a Good Thing. |
| 00:41.33 | Dashkal | same* |
| 00:41.40 | NeoTron | and it's a humor filled game. I think I don't really like realistic graphics |
| 00:41.49 | Dashkal | I play quake 1 from time to time... Dated graphics don't offend me :p |
| 00:42.03 | NeoTron | and part of it is due to the commonly known fact that the closer to "real" you get, the more fake it looks |
| 00:42.12 | NeoTron | WoW is so far from realistic it doesn't look bad |
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| 00:42.20 | Dashkal | 'sides, would you want to see the hardware specs to render shatt if they doubled the poly count of the player model? |
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| 00:42.54 | NeoTron | well let's not talk about Shatt |
| 00:42.57 | NeoTron | shatt is broken :P |
| 00:43.03 | Dashkal | Or Ironforge before it |
| 00:43.06 | NeoTron | no |
| 00:43.10 | NeoTron | IF ~= shatt |
| 00:43.12 | NivFreak | how many decursers do you guys use for archimonde? |
| 00:43.15 | NivFreak | 2-3? |
| 00:43.17 | Dashkal | Lagforge and the trench of doom :p |
| 00:43.28 | NeoTron | we discussed this before - something is broken with rendernig in shattrah |
| 00:43.28 | profalbert | NivFreak:4-6 |
| 00:43.29 | Dashkal | I fell into that damn thing so many times... |
| 00:43.38 | NeoTron | NivFreak: typically at least one per group |
| 00:43.55 | Dashkal | I know, and I know what it is. Shatt is rendered all at once. There's no visibility blocking in there |
| 00:44.07 | Dashkal | You have LoS to pretty much the entire city at all times |
| 00:44.31 | Dashkal | Esp from places like aldor rise |
| 00:44.39 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 00:44.42 | NivFreak | 4-6 might be a problem |
| 00:44.47 | NivFreak | I'm like to have 3-4 |
| 00:44.48 | NivFreak | tops |
| 00:44.51 | NivFreak | likely |
| 00:44.55 | NivFreak | 1 resto druid, 2-3 mages |
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| 00:46.02 | Dashkal | I'd like to see them improve the visibility blocking in general for the game. There are ways to block off rendering if they're smart about it, but it's hardly an exact science. |
| 00:46.22 | Dashkal | And they do a pretty decent job as it is, it just needs improvement in places like, well, Shatt/If/Org |
| 00:46.36 | NeoTron | we do arch with 4 groups + melee |
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| 00:47.17 | NivFreak | oh |
| 00:47.23 | NivFreak | you don't mean raid groups |
| 00:47.39 | NivFreak | you mean positional groups |
| 00:47.40 | NivFreak | ok |
| 00:48.48 | NeoTron | yes |
| 00:48.55 | NeoTron | each group has a decurser |
| 00:49.03 | NeoTron | do you not have a feral druid or boomkin? |
| 00:49.46 | NivFreak | good point |
| 00:49.48 | NivFreak | I have 2 ferals |
| 00:49.50 | NivFreak | thanks :) |
| 00:50.00 | NivFreak | DPS isn't an issue, and melee sucks |
| 00:50.04 | NivFreak | so that's an excellent use |
| 00:50.52 | NeoTron | actually archimonde is a great fight for melee |
| 00:50.58 | NeoTron | but yes, use them for decursing. |
| 00:51.11 | NeoTron | they can even do both dps and decurse at times |
| 00:51.49 | NivFreak | I thought the doomfires made melee a bitch |
| 00:51.54 | NivFreak | or was that just during the bug |
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| 00:53.13 | NeoTron | usually not too bad |
| 00:53.26 | NeoTron | and I think they nerfed archimonde and accidently broke it in the process |
| 00:53.35 | NivFreak | oh, really? |
| 00:53.36 | NeoTron | i.e they made the fires act differently |
| 00:53.50 | NeoTron | they don't seem to follow you ask much and to me I had to move a lot less in general |
| 00:53.56 | Neya | fires could spawn directly in him, and also target melees directly |
| 00:53.56 | NivFreak | so the gimics are decursing, doomfires, and the airburst right? |
| 00:54.17 | Neya | yep |
| 00:54.20 | NeoTron | i.e had tons of fires spawn next to me but they just went past me |
| 00:54.22 | NivFreak | so barring lag, easy enough |
| 00:54.26 | NeoTron | and fear |
| 00:54.30 | NivFreak | ye |
| 00:54.31 | NivFreak | yep |
| 00:54.33 | NivFreak | fear of course |
| 00:54.39 | NeoTron | esp combined with fire, mt healing and leftover curses |
| 00:54.57 | NivFreak | undead mages ftw |
| 00:55.00 | Neya | hah, had forgotten the fear, was over three months since I got to do Archimonde. |
| 00:55.02 | NeoTron | airburst => group with healer(s), dps, decurser => all should take it |
| 00:55.33 | NeoTron | biggest airburst killer other than ppl being stupid => having fire and/or curse without a healer |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75300 10PetAndMountDatabase/ (Build.lua PetAndMountDatabase-1.0/PetAndMountDatabase.lua): |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-42 | PetAndMountDatabase: |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-42 | - Finer divisions of sets |
| 00:56.11 | CIA-42 | - More info in sets, minipets have relevent info in them |
| 00:56.44 | Neya | the fires hurt most the first three ticks, after that it isn't really that bad anymore, but getting a fire during a fear, or having a curse up then is lethal. |
| 00:58.16 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75301 10LibHelper-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:58.16 | CIA-42 | LibHelper-1.0: |
| 00:58.16 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:01.39 | smoke_ | anyone ever heard of a problem with dual boxing wow? where u just cacnt it screen tears when u alt tab? |
| 01:02.09 | JoshBorke | i have run 2 instances of wow on my computer no problem |
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| 01:05.34 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75302 10Mount/ (. Mount.lua Mount.toc embeds.xml): |
| 01:05.34 | CIA-42 | Mount: |
| 01:05.34 | CIA-42 | - Changed to make use of LibHelper-1.0 |
| 01:05.48 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75303 10Stable/ (Stable.lua localisation.lua): |
| 01:05.48 | CIA-42 | Stable: |
| 01:05.48 | CIA-42 | - Changed names of options |
| 01:05.48 | CIA-42 | - Fix for not swapping when autoloaded |
| 01:06.00 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75304 10Tabard/Tabard.lua: |
| 01:06.00 | CIA-42 | Tabard: |
| 01:06.00 | CIA-42 | - Fix for not running when autoloaded |
| 01:11.55 | NivFreak | smoke_: I think that is a driver/card issue |
| 01:13.03 | Dark_Elf | sounds like something that ati cards do |
| 01:20.54 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75305 10MiniPet/ (7 files): |
| 01:20.54 | CIA-42 | MiniPet: |
| 01:20.54 | CIA-42 | - Changed to use LibBabble-Zone-3.0 and LibHelper-1.0 |
| 01:20.54 | CIA-42 | - Teleport spells use spellID instead of name |
| 01:20.54 | CIA-42 | - fixes to some strings |
| 01:22.45 | Ackis | LordFarlander on vent? |
| 01:24.06 | Dark_Elf | how does one get a mini pet anyways? |
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| 01:25.22 | dylanm_ | Dark_Elf: http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow.pets/index.asp |
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| 01:34.39 | Ackis | http://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=ackis |
| 01:34.41 | DARKGuy | ^_^ |
| 01:34.57 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 01:35.55 | Zyndrome | oh god, I'd kill for a Dragon Kite pet :P |
| 01:36.37 | Ackis | I need murloc pet :( |
| 01:36.53 | sacarasc | Ackis: wuss! not getting the engineering pets! |
| 01:38.21 | CIA-42 | 03sayclub * r75306 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 01:38.21 | CIA-42 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 01:38.21 | CIA-42 | - Bugfix |
| 01:39.33 | Ackis | I'm not an engineer |
| 01:39.57 | Ackis | kalecgos doesn't fire a unit_died event |
| 01:39.57 | sacarasc | you should drop what you are and become one, then drop it again so you can get the other ;p |
| 01:40.05 | sacarasc | http://www.warcraftpets.com/wow.pets/birds/parrots/blood_parrot.asp <-- got ;) |
| 01:40.57 | Dark_Elf | cool beans |
| 01:42.51 | Ackis | why doesn't kalec have a unit_died :( sad face |
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| 01:58.57 | CIA-42 | 037destiny * r75307 10BigWigs/Sunwell/Muru.lua: |
| 01:58.57 | CIA-42 | BigWigs: Sunwell/Muru: |
| 01:58.57 | CIA-42 | - fix Dark Fiend alerts for Phase 2 |
| 01:58.57 | CIA-42 | - fix GravityBall(removed Bad RepeatGravityBall issue) |
| 01:58.57 | CIA-42 | - cleanup |
| 01:58.58 | CIA-42 | - koKR Update |
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| 02:11.59 | CIA-42 | 03nikkodemus * r75308 10BuffEnough/ (. BuffEnough.lua BuffEnough.toc Config.lua embeds.xml): |
| 02:11.59 | CIA-42 | BuffEnough: |
| 02:11.59 | CIA-42 | - upgrade to LibGratuity-3.0 |
| 02:11.59 | CIA-42 | - remove requirement for LibLogger-1.0 |
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| 02:12.51 | QuantumDelta | *Pokies Funkeh`* |
| 02:13.06 | Funkeh` | yer |
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| 02:13.24 | QuantumDelta | Could I make a small minor request for kalecgos' on bigwigs mate? :) |
| 02:13.49 | Funkeh` | maybe |
| 02:14.00 | QuantumDelta | Corruptin' strike timer ;p |
| 02:14.51 | Funkeh` | um, there is one? |
| 02:14.55 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 02:15.00 | QuantumDelta | it announces it |
| 02:15.16 | QuantumDelta | but I haven't found an actual timerbar for it anywhere |
| 02:15.26 | QuantumDelta | unless I had another senile dementia moment :< |
| 02:16.14 | Funkeh` | seems like it only shows a bar if it's on a player |
| 02:16.17 | Funkeh` | not the boss |
| 02:16.33 | QuantumDelta | You're talking about the debuff? |
| 02:16.43 | QuantumDelta | 1k dmg +stun duration |
| 02:16.43 | Funkeh` | i guess? |
| 02:16.47 | QuantumDelta | * to clarify ;P |
| 02:17.00 | Funkeh` | is it even on a timer? |
| 02:17.05 | QuantumDelta | 12 seconds |
| 02:17.06 | QuantumDelta | AFAIK |
| 02:17.09 | QuantumDelta | lemme double check |
| 02:17.26 | QuantumDelta | 13 |
| 02:18.59 | QuantumDelta | Andddd it's a cooldown |
| 02:19.05 | QuantumDelta | not an exact |
| 02:19.08 | QuantumDelta | sorry :) |
| 02:24.33 | Ackis | wow so Kalec doesn't give you a unit_died, and brut is "normal" with UnitClassification |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-42 | 03Fritos * r75310 10DailiesQuestTracker/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-42 | DailiesQuestTracker: |
| 02:25.19 | CIA-42 | - Libs referencing, maybe, kinda.. |
| 02:25.37 | QuantumDelta | Sunwell was not rushed out, we completely tested this patch and all feedback rectified bugs before it went live!11 /blue? |
| 02:25.39 | QuantumDelta | :P |
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| 02:26.46 | Olison | QuantumDelta: Are you still ret? |
| 02:26.54 | QuantumDelta | I might be tomorrow |
| 02:27.00 | QuantumDelta | I'm full time prot remember? |
| 02:27.32 | QuantumDelta | part of the reason I was after a timer actually |
| 02:27.40 | QuantumDelta | to be able to abuse my healers with it :P |
| 02:27.47 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 02:33.23 | QuantumDelta | You're a dr00d right Olison? :P |
| 02:33.31 | QuantumDelta | you just chill on eu-pally? |
| 02:33.51 | Olison | No, I'm actually a hunter... since the beginning. |
| 02:34.00 | QuantumDelta | haha |
| 02:34.06 | Olison | Not some recently rolled hunter because they are SO COOL OMG |
| 02:34.22 | dylanm | Olison: MS ON A STICK |
| 02:34.35 | Olison | Exactly |
| 02:35.29 | QuantumDelta | hmm huntar |
| 02:35.33 | QuantumDelta | pvpz? |
| 02:36.09 | Olison | Both, but i cba Arena, really. |
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| 02:43.26 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
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| 02:56.56 | elite3vil | "I don't have a pet bar, my barmod doesn't have one displayed, and it didn't change the buttons on my main bar" |
| 02:56.56 | elite3vil | "My bar mod is outdated and they didn't release an update for it" |
| 02:57.09 | elite3vil | We can kill Brutalus, but wipe on Gorefiend. /facepalm |
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| 02:57.42 | QuantumDelta | hahahaha |
| 03:00.02 | QuantumDelta | brutallus is a lot easier than teron technically speaking ;\ |
| 03:03.11 | elite3vil | Wipe #2. |
| 03:03.57 | CIA-42 | 03wang * r75311 10WoWEquip/localization.zhCN.lua: WoWEquip: - zhCN update for the Enchantment part, all have been done. |
| 03:05.20 | elite3vil | I think our MT knows how to do ghosts |
| 03:05.20 | elite3vil | 23:04:11 [RL] <70:Neurox:1>: 543333333333333333333333333333 |
| 03:05.21 | Hjalte | Noooo :( Servers down, curse you Blizzard. |
| 03:05.43 | QuantumDelta | rofl elite3vil :P |
| 03:06.04 | Neya | it's hard to be nocturnal on the day they do the maintance. |
| 03:06.22 | QuantumDelta | truer words never typed |
| 03:07.05 | Lukian | Elkano's Frames Resized and Cartographer_QuestInfo conflict : Interface\FrameXML\QuestLogFrame.lua:164: attempt to index local 'questLogTitle' (a nil value): |
| 03:07.05 | Lukian | Interface\FrameXML\QuestLogFrame.lua:59: in function `QuestLog_OnEvent': |
| 03:07.05 | Lukian | <string>:"*:OnEvent":1: in function <[string "*:OnEvent"]:1> |
| 03:07.08 | Lukian | :/ |
| 03:09.50 | Lukian | why the hell does Cartographer_QuestInfo resize my questlog WITHOUT giving me an option to NOT anyway? :/ |
| 03:11.18 | NeoTron | we can clear kalecgos trash w/o deaths |
| 03:11.29 | NeoTron | but tend to have quite a few deaths while doing gruul's trash |
| 03:12.25 | Neya | have been like that for us too, but BT instead of gruul, might have had something to do with me being grumpy and refused to tank the mobs they hit before I even got to hit it :P |
| 03:13.18 | Neya | but hey, it's more fun to make things a bit tricky on Gruul. |
| 03:16.55 | digmouse | ~seen xinhuan |
| 03:16.56 | purl | xinhuan is currently on #wowhead #norganna #wowuidev #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 81 messages. Is idling for 10h 9m 46s, last said: '1507 rating gives 351(5s), 309(3s) and 267(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc)'. |
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| 03:17.45 | Lukian | if self.db.profile.wideQuestLog then |
| 03:17.56 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody has got the description item in AceConfigDialog-3.0 with an image working ? |
| 03:17.58 | Lukian | great, the option is there, but not exposed |
| 03:18.14 | Lukian | DARKGuy, stop asking :p |
| 03:21.43 | DARKGuy | Lukian, :( but I need to know |
| 03:21.46 | DARKGuy | and the Wiki isn't any help |
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| 03:32.25 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 03:32.34 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r75312 10FBagOfHolding/ (FBagOfHolding.lua FItemDB.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 03:32.34 | CIA-42 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 03:32.34 | CIA-42 | - Added code for scanning and storing guild bank data. Made further optimizations to reduce memory usage of the item database. |
| 03:32.50 | CIA-42 | 03funkydude * r75313 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua COPYING.lua): BadBoy: Updated blacklist, DB Cleanup |
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| 03:34.35 | Dark_Elf | badboy badboy what ya gonna do when they come for you.... |
| 03:35.54 | Dark_Elf | cops filmed on location, spammers are guilty until proven innocent lol |
| 03:36.00 | haste | spam their channels on IRC apparantly |
| 03:37.07 | Dark_Elf | oh gosh i hope not that was awful last weak the text scrolled so fast i couldnt even read it |
| 03:41.22 | Dark_Elf | i wish blizzard would change the maps so one cant fall into areas that one cant get out of or should be marked unexplorable. |
| 03:42.08 | DARKGuy | it's kinda hard to do imho |
| 03:42.15 | Lukian | OH Kemayo |
| 03:42.33 | Lukian | You did the FSR, so you might as well add an energy ticker for cats & rogues? |
| 03:42.43 | Lukian | pretty plz :o |
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| 03:44.24 | Lukian | hmm maybe I'm skilled enough to do that |
| 03:44.26 | Lukian | ponders |
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| 03:50.56 | CIA-42 | Mendeleev: |
| 03:50.56 | CIA-42 | - Update zhTW localization. (Thanks s8095324) |
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| 03:59.07 | CIA-42 | 03scorpio0920 * r75315 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData-zhTW.lua: |
| 03:59.07 | CIA-42 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 03:59.07 | CIA-42 | - Update zhTW localization. |
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| 04:05.12 | gotaim | whats badboy |
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| 04:06.55 | dylanm | gotaim: Funkeh`'s spam blocking addon. |
| 04:07.05 | Funkeh` | simple automatic gold spam reporter |
| 04:07.10 | gotaim | where can i find it |
| 04:07.18 | gotaim | wowace? |
| 04:07.25 | dylanm | Lucky guess. |
| 04:07.36 | gotaim | lol |
| 04:07.42 | gotaim | slaps gotaim around a bit with a large trout |
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| 04:36.58 | CIA-42 | TIRaid: |
| 04:36.58 | CIA-42 | - Loot tracking update |
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| 05:50.18 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 05:50.18 | CIA-42 | * Made the options frame prettier... with a LOGO :D |
| 05:50.48 | DARKGuy | btw thanks haste for that one :P |
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| 06:08.47 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 06:08.47 | CIA-42 | * Fixed minor visual error in GUI |
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| 06:21.31 | TNSe | mmmm |
| 06:21.55 | TNSe | for some reason xperl raid frames and ctraid enabled itself yesterday for me without me updating any addons |
| 06:22.08 | TNSe | that was freaky |
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| 06:38.39 | Zhinjio | is there a way, once you've loaded an addon, to completely unload it again? |
| 06:38.48 | Zhinjio | Just :Disable()? |
| 06:39.07 | nevcairiel | hm /script DisableAddOn("Addon); /console reloadui |
| 06:39.47 | Zhinjio | DisableAddon (nil value) error |
| 06:40.03 | durcyn | check your capitalization |
| 06:40.11 | nevcairiel | case sensitive |
| 06:40.11 | Snago | DisableAddOn <-- notice big O |
| 06:40.24 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 06:40.44 | Zhinjio | same result. |
| 06:41.10 | durcyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_DisableAddOn |
| 06:41.10 | Elkano | random image: http://www.abload.de/img/brains6oe.jpg |
| 06:41.25 | nevcairiel | lol Elkano |
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| 06:43.08 | Zhinjio | is there a way to do it that won't require a reload? |
| 06:43.21 | nevcairiel | no |
| 06:43.23 | Zhinjio | I don't want to disable it for future reloads, I want to turn off the current instantiation |
| 06:43.38 | nevcairiel | unless the author coded a specific function to disable said addon |
| 06:43.41 | nevcairiel | there is no generic way |
| 06:43.51 | Zhinjio | Um... I am the author. |
| 06:43.55 | Zhinjio | I want my addon to unload |
| 06:43.59 | Zhinjio | thats what I'm asking. |
| 06:44.22 | Elkano | btw: anyone talking chinese that could enlighten me on thisone? http://208.116.9.205/10/graphics/pics/9507/1.jpg |
| 06:44.24 | nevcairiel | You should probably know what to do, to make your addon stop doing its thing |
| 06:44.52 | nevcairiel | looks like chinese butt-secks :P |
| 06:45.17 | Snago | local enabled = true; function() if not enabled then return end --[[ do normal stuff ]] end |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-42 | 037destiny * r75320 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-42 | StatLogicLib: |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-42 | - koKR Update, fix enchant(thx babymonk) |
| 06:45.55 | Elkano | Zhinjio, if coded correct, you can halt an addon so it won't take CPU anymore (or almost none); you could even nil the tables to have them GCed but eg frames can't be GCed nor would you be able to reload the addon. so halting/resuming is the better idea |
| 06:46.00 | durcyn | eh, does ace3 have any of the standby functionality from ace2 |
| 06:46.08 | nevcairiel | no |
| 06:46.09 | nevcairiel | besides |
| 06:46.13 | nevcairiel | it never really worked anyway |
| 06:46.20 | durcyn | fair enough :o |
| 06:46.21 | nevcairiel | because authors didnt know how to implement it correctly |
| 06:46.48 | Elkano | nevcairiel, iirc Ace3 has but it doesn't force it into the gui so it's only there if the author activly enables it |
| 06:46.49 | Zhinjio | I guess the main thing is I want the GUI to go away, and to stop responding to comms, and unregister all events. |
| 06:46.59 | Zhinjio | thats ... well, thats probably about as close as I can get then |
| 06:47.27 | nevcairiel | so write your own :OnDisable handler to do that |
| 06:47.31 | nevcairiel | and call :Disable |
| 06:47.37 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 06:47.42 | Zhinjio | thats what I was just about to do. |
| 06:48.06 | nevcairiel | unregistering events (if using AceEvent-3.0 in embed mode) will happen automatically |
| 06:48.22 | nevcairiel | same for comms, if using AceComm-3.0 |
| 06:50.02 | Elkano | oh, public fail ^^ http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/soulbow/755509753_3c2077aa80.jpg |
| 06:50.22 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 06:50.45 | Elkano | yeah, but be sure to put registering for comms and events in OnEnable and not in OnInitialize |
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| 06:52.01 | Elkano | ok, and that's geek ^^ http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h63/soulbow/20070526-100929.jpg |
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| 06:56.03 | nevcairiel | heh thats kinda cool |
| 06:57.30 | CIA-42 | 03trasher * r75321 10Recount/locales/Recount-frFR.lua: |
| 06:57.30 | CIA-42 | Recount: |
| 06:57.30 | CIA-42 | - frFR update |
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| 07:18.59 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 07:19.21 | Zhinjio | removed all slash commands, removed all comm listeners, removed all event listeners, hid the frame, hid the fubar icon |
| 07:19.27 | Zhinjio | I think thats about as good as I can get. |
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| 07:22.15 | Cheads | pally tanks... Righteous Defense.. will that give the paladin permanent threat(equal to however has aggro)... or only force the mob(s) to attack you for x seconds? |
| 07:22.40 | nevcairiel | its like warrior taunt |
| 07:22.44 | Cheads | ah good |
| 07:22.55 | Cheads | was a bit worried =) |
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| 07:26.07 | Cheads | hmm apparently it was also changed in 2.4 to work like taunt(so you don't need a macro like( |
| 07:26.13 | Cheads | (/cast [help] Righteous Defense; [target=targettarget,help] Righteous Defense) |
| 07:26.35 | CIA-42 | 03snago * r75322 10oUF_IncomingHeals/: Created folder remotely |
| 07:26.50 | Cheads | same with intervene |
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| 07:31.22 | Bruners | damn, for once i wake up early and the servers are down |
| 07:32.32 | profalbert | yep, same here |
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| 07:39.07 | Bruners | should not IE7 be included in XP SP3 ? |
| 07:39.19 | CIA-42 | 03snago * r75323 10oUF_IncomingHeals/ (. oUF_IncomingHeals.lua oUF_IncomingHeals.toc readme.txt): |
| 07:39.19 | CIA-42 | oUF_IncomingHeals: Initial commit |
| 07:39.19 | CIA-42 | - Show incoming heals for oUF using LibHealComm-3.0. |
| 07:39.19 | CIA-42 | - "Plug&Play". No layout modification needed. |
| 07:39.19 | CIA-42 | - See readme.txt for more info. |
| 07:40.53 | Snago | oohhh... Forgot to mention.. Servers are down so I havn't been able to test the last changes. But it was working yesterday ;) |
| 07:41.53 | ramoz | Hm |
| 07:42.02 | ramoz | were you the one making the tooltip ouf thing Snago? |
| 07:42.33 | Snago | ramoz: nope, that wasn't me.. I'm behind oUF_PowerSpark and now oUF_IncomingHeals |
| 07:42.57 | starlon | ramoz that's me |
| 07:43.14 | starlon | I'm writing a real tooltip mod though |
| 07:43.15 | ramoz | aha |
| 07:43.30 | ramoz | you didnt fix that it didnt move in combat? |
| 07:43.40 | starlon | It can't move in combat. |
| 07:43.55 | starlon | That's why I'm writing an actual tooltip addon |
| 07:44.22 | Snago | Since the units are secure they can't move in combat. But mouseover unit frames don't have to be secure since you can never click on them :P |
| 07:44.45 | starlon | Well it's secure in oUF |
| 07:45.03 | starlon | Was a silly idea |
| 07:46.32 | Snago | not really. It was just smacked down by SecureUnitButtonTemplate :P |
| 07:47.18 | starlon | Also I use Mobspells. It places spells in unit tooltips |
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| 07:50.36 | CIA-42 | 03snago * r75324 10oUF_PowerSpark/oUF_PowerSpark.lua: |
| 07:50.36 | CIA-42 | oUF_PowerSpark: |
| 07:50.36 | CIA-42 | - Tick on timer > 2 instead of >= 2. Seems more accurate, but I could be imagining things. |
| 07:51.31 | Zhinjio | ogod |
| 07:51.44 | Zhinjio | I just found a huge problem. |
| 07:51.45 | Zhinjio | shit. |
| 07:52.02 | Zhinjio | date("*t") returns local time, not server time. |
| 07:52.06 | Zhinjio | that *really* sucks. |
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| 07:57.24 | ramoz | starlon: any eta on the tooltip? |
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| 07:57.52 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: local h, m = GetGameTime(); local n = date("*t"); n.hour = h; n.min = m; return time(n) |
| 07:58.01 | vhaarr | it's not perfect, but close |
| 08:06.16 | starlon | ramoz: Dunno. Most of it's written outside of options. |
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| 08:08.00 | starlon | Right now I'm trying to figure out why UNIT_HEALTH and UNIT_MANA won't fire. :\ |
| 08:09.16 | Snago | starlon: I'm not sure UNIT_HEALTH or _MANA are supposed to fire for mouseover |
| 08:09.35 | [Ammo] | they only fire for 'real' units |
| 08:09.48 | starlon | they do |
| 08:09.56 | starlon | mouseover is a real unit |
| 08:10.05 | starlon | I figured it out |
| 08:10.06 | nevcairiel | i dont think you get events for mouseoever |
| 08:10.07 | [Ammo] | well then if they fire, its no problem |
| 08:10.24 | [Ammo] | it's 1 of 2 things: they don't fire, or you're doing it wrong |
| 08:10.49 | Snago | oh, ok.. I was wrong. According to WoWWiki they do fire for mouseover |
| 08:11.20 | starlon | I was doing it wrong ;) |
| 08:11.37 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 08:11.38 | starlon | I thought it passed arg1 and arg2. My mistake. |
| 08:11.44 | starlon | arg2 being unit |
| 08:11.57 | nevcairiel | it should |
| 08:12.02 | Snago | arg1 is unit |
| 08:12.05 | starlon | ya |
| 08:12.16 | Zhinjio | vhaarr: I think the only *real* solution is to always use utc, so date("!*t") instead. |
| 08:12.37 | nevcairiel | lua> pp(date("!*t")) |
| 08:12.38 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'date' (a nil value) |
| 08:12.43 | nevcairiel | lua> pp(os.date("!*t")) |
| 08:12.44 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: { ["hour"] = 8, ["min"] = 12, ["wday"] = 4, ["day"] = 28, ["month"] = 5, ["year"] = 2008, ["sec"] = 43, ["yday"] = 149, ["isdst"] = false } (#1) |
| 08:12.44 | Zhinjio | os.date |
| 08:13.13 | nevcairiel | i didnt even know the *t accepts a ! |
| 08:13.29 | Zhinjio | if I'm syncing events between players, and they're both using a timestamp... the timestamp has to be in the same context |
| 08:13.33 | Zhinjio | or they're useless |
| 08:13.43 | Zhinjio | yeah, I didn't either. I just found it. |
| 08:13.55 | Zhinjio | in someone else's code... uh ... ClockFu |
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| 08:14.22 | Arrowmaster | are you converting to epoch? |
| 08:14.39 | Snago | Zhinjio: Might not want to assume everyone has their computer clock set correctly :P |
| 08:14.50 | Zhinjio | I kinda have to |
| 08:15.00 | Zhinjio | what else can I possible sync to? |
| 08:15.03 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats the other issue, youll get kinda close but not 100% close |
| 08:15.16 | nevcairiel | server time + client date is all you can do :/ |
| 08:15.16 | Zhinjio | server time offset calculation suffers from the same problem |
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| 08:15.25 | Arrowmaster | there a trick on wowwiki for getting server seconds |
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| 08:16.07 | [Ammo] | Zhinjio: base your timestamps of the combat_event_unfiltered? |
| 08:16.16 | [Ammo] | or are those basically os.date? |
| 08:16.22 | Arrowmaster | those are os.date i think |
| 08:16.27 | Arrowmaster | since its local time not server time |
| 08:16.34 | Zhinjio | not sure, but then I'd need to wait for a combat event to fire to do anything |
| 08:16.58 | Arrowmaster | if your going to convert to epoch for comms see http://jira.wowace.com/browse/LS-21#action_12397 |
| 08:17.05 | nevcairiel | yeah combatlog timestamps are local |
| 08:17.12 | nevcairiel | not server |
| 08:17.36 | Arrowmaster | actually im not sure if epoch would be effected by that little 'bug' |
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| 08:18.56 | Zhinjio | well, anything using os.time or os.date is subject to the local system's time being set correctly, right? |
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| 08:19.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 08:19.20 | [Ammo] | guess you're going to have to work without timestamps |
| 08:19.22 | Zhinjio | if there were a way to get seconds out of server time, that would be a bit closer. |
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| 08:19.26 | [Ammo] | at least without sync'd timestamps |
| 08:19.32 | Arrowmaster | but os.time() assues the input is in local time |
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| 08:20.05 | starlon | doh I was right the first time |
| 08:20.35 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster: if you know where that thing is on wowwiki, i'd be interested to read that. |
| 08:20.49 | Zhinjio | and ... ultimately, I'm ok with a 99% solution, if thats the only caveat. |
| 08:20.59 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowwiki.com/GameTime:Get |
| 08:21.08 | thul | Will i go to hell if I find a dio song good? :-P |
| 08:21.38 | cladhaire | that is just a dirty hack |
| 08:21.43 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 08:22.32 | Zhinjio | agreed. |
| 08:22.40 | Arrowmaster | blame mikk |
| 08:22.57 | Zhinjio | yeah, I'll stick to just using utc, and documenting the requirement to make sure anyone who is an admin making sure their local machine has the time set correctly |
| 08:23.18 | Arrowmaster | by correctly you mean exactly synced? |
| 08:23.27 | CIA-42 | 03sayclub * r75325 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 08:23.27 | CIA-42 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 08:23.27 | CIA-42 | - Added debuff color options. |
| 08:24.26 | nevcairiel | while we're talking about dates |
| 08:24.46 | nevcairiel | did anyone ever theorize how many systems currently are affected by the Year 2038 problem? |
| 08:25.09 | Arrowmaster | lots |
| 08:25.17 | Arrowmaster | i can crash lua.exe with it |
| 08:25.42 | Arrowmaster | cant crash lua_bot though since its a 64bit system |
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| 08:26.46 | Arrowmaster | but by 2038 im perty sure there wont be many 32bit systems left |
| 08:26.59 | nevcairiel | i changed my date to 2038 and alot broke |
| 08:27.00 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:27.06 | nevcairiel | i dont have timestamps in irc anymore |
| 08:27.06 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 08:27.13 | Arrowmaster | os? |
| 08:27.26 | nevcairiel | xp 64 |
| 08:27.30 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 08:27.33 | Arrowmaster | thats just wrong |
| 08:27.37 | nevcairiel | the app runs in 32-bit mode, though |
| 08:27.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah but epoch is a unix thing |
| 08:28.07 | nevcairiel | everyone uses it still |
| 08:28.09 | Arrowmaster | try 2037 |
| 08:28.19 | nevcairiel | test |
| 08:28.22 | nevcairiel | timestamp back |
| 08:28.24 | nevcairiel | amazing |
| 08:28.25 | Arrowmaster | mirc? |
| 08:28.27 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:28.33 | Arrowmaster | mircs fault then |
| 08:28.41 | Arrowmaster | mirc doesnt even do epoch correctly |
| 08:29.01 | Arrowmaster | it uses local time as a reference instead of utc |
| 08:29.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 08:29.26 | ramoz | nothing broke her =( |
| 08:29.38 | nevcairiel | I should just write my own irc client |
| 08:29.46 | nevcairiel | how is chatzilla these days? |
| 08:30.29 | ramoz | shit |
| 08:30.33 | ramoz | like always |
| 08:30.54 | Arrowmaster | wtb graphical irssi |
| 08:31.24 | ramoz | whats wrong with tnormal irssi? |
| 08:31.25 | ramoz | -t |
| 08:31.37 | Arrowmaster | i like using my mouse =( |
| 08:31.48 | Arrowmaster | oh and scroll wheel |
| 08:31.59 | ramoz | newbie |
| 08:32.03 | Arrowmaster | meh |
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| 08:32.23 | Arrowmaster | some things i just like graphical versions of better |
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| 08:35.40 | Arrowmaster | lol stupid DST |
| 08:35.54 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.date(nil, 0) |
| 08:35.54 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970 |
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| 08:36.48 | Arrowmaster | lua> os.date(nil,os.time(os.date("!*t", 0))) |
| 08:36.49 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 |
| 08:37.45 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: ^^^ make note of that behavior |
| 08:38.36 | Zhinjio | I actually do my own conversion to epoch when I need it. |
| 08:39.05 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 08:39.11 | Zhinjio | further: I only need accuracy to within one day when I do |
| 08:39.32 | Zhinjio | I don't use epoch for my timestamps |
| 08:39.38 | Arrowmaster | pff, 100% accuracy alway! |
| 08:39.39 | Zhinjio | just YYYYMMDDHHMMSS |
| 08:40.08 | Zhinjio | with an additional index on the end to distinguish between commands that may happen to occupy the same second (very rare) |
| 08:40.32 | Arrowmaster | reason mirc fails at epoch... |
| 08:40.49 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.58 | Arrowmaster | 0 = Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969 -0500 GMT |
| 08:42.15 | Arrowmaster | atleast it doesnt look like it fails at timezone |
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| 08:59.06 | nevcairiel | Hm heh |
| 08:59.10 | nevcairiel | it cleared all my cookies |
| 08:59.16 | nevcairiel | when i changed the date |
| 08:59.25 | Arrowmaster | duh |
| 08:59.33 | ramoz | lol |
| 08:59.54 | ramoz | "shit, this cookie expired 29 years ago *brrr - delete*" |
| 08:59.54 | Arrowmaster | max cookie date is 2^31-1 or something |
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| 09:12.40 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning |
| 09:12.44 | nevcairiel | mah gief server back |
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| 09:19.03 | Gibbonz|Work | hmm any feral druids mind sharing their opinion on this talent build? :) http://tinyurl.com/5opten |
| 09:20.07 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: You can#t go without improved Leader of the pack ;) |
| 09:20.38 | evl | Gibbonz|Work: this is the spec our feral goes with for sunwell http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Reinmar |
| 09:20.58 | Gibbonz|Work | takes a look |
| 09:21.39 | Nargiddley | I'd drop feral agression and get imp lotp, and finish the 2 you don't have maxed |
| 09:22.32 | SunTsu | Nargiddley: Aggreed. |
| 09:22.38 | sica | I would also drop Savage Fury |
| 09:22.47 | SunTsu | And maybe go on Nurtural Instinct, too |
| 09:22.48 | Gibbonz|Work | ive seen quite a few without the fear/stun resist bonus.. is that because you can get that from gear? |
| 09:23.25 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: I have a meta gem for that, and it really doesn't make a difference for a druid |
| 09:23.41 | Gibbonz|Work | ah right |
| 09:23.56 | sica | no, it's because in raid situations you don't rely on chances... when you need to break fear you usually get a tremor totem or fear ward |
| 09:24.26 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: Fear wards and earth shock totems exist and you still have the armor and don't have to hold up a shield wall, like warriors do, so a stun doesn#t harm you that much |
| 09:25.01 | Gibbonz|Work | i see |
| 09:25.11 | SunTsu | Nurtural instinct after 2.4 is quite worth it, getting 20% more heal when in cat form is quite nice |
| 09:25.48 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: If you intend to do PvP, you might want to keep it, though |
| 09:27.50 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75326 10GridStatusRaidDebuff/GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 09:27.50 | CIA-42 | GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 09:27.50 | CIA-42 | - Added duration support for important debuffs |
| 09:28.01 | SunTsu | I did drop Savage Fury for Nurturing instinct, in a raid it really doesn't matter, you just use mangle for the debuff and shred for damage, and in PvE the loss in DPS isn't that critical |
| 09:28.01 | ramoz | nevcairiel: make fadeout in bt4 instead of waiting for the server! |
| 09:29.16 | Gibbonz|Work | yeah my thought initially was to aim for a 'balanced' feral spec as such... I think i'll make some the suggested changes once im suitably prepared for raiding |
| 09:30.12 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: It doesn't make you imbalanced, with nurturing instinct you even get the stuff to live longer as a cat and have decent +heal for emergency situations |
| 09:31.24 | Gibbonz|Work | by balanced I just meant that I can do a little tanking, dps and survive a bit in pvp |
| 09:31.31 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: You can give yourself life bloom and see it tick higher once you are in cat form |
| 09:31.50 | ramoz | hoho, hopeless co-workers - been driving around for 1.5hr before they called me and asked for directions |
| 09:31.56 | Gibbonz|Work | as i've just recently dinged 70 and those pvp goodies look scary :P |
| 09:32.24 | thul | hmm, does anyone use enhancement shamans in arena? |
| 09:32.53 | sica | thul: yeah, in a fun-5v5-team, playing on 1700 :) |
| 09:33.06 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: You realize, that having "Survival of the fittest" not skilled out fully forces you to have more resilience or defence to be crit immune? |
| 09:33.52 | SunTsu | And that Nurturing instinct makes you even better in PvP because healing your team will work better |
| 09:34.23 | thul | sica: hehe, ok |
| 09:34.34 | Gibbonz|Work | yeah I do, and good point |
| 09:34.40 | SunTsu | Especially in PvP "Natural Shapeshifter" is needed, or they will keep you shifting away all your mana |
| 09:35.13 | SunTsu | In Raid it is good to do power shifting |
| 09:35.27 | thul | sica: sounds perfect to me :-P |
| 09:35.44 | sica | thul: a friend of mine is playing enh-shaman, retri-pala and rogue on 2200 |
| 09:36.02 | thul | ah, sounds fun :-) |
| 09:36.07 | thul | i guess they count on burst? :-P |
| 09:36.09 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: Improved Leader of the pack will heal your team/group when they crit, so this is PvP relevant, too |
| 09:36.15 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r75327 10Parrot/ (Data/CombatEvents.lua Locales/ParrotLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 09:36.15 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 09:36.15 | CIA-42 | - fixed missing Pet heal events. |
| 09:36.15 | CIA-42 | - fixed tooltips for petevents. |
| 09:36.19 | thul | I do a 2v2 ret-pala + rogue (shadowstep backstab) |
| 09:36.31 | thul | I like shadowstep in arenas. |
| 09:36.50 | sica | thul: totally, the ret-pala and the enh-shaman go like crazy with WF :) |
| 09:37.03 | thul | hehe, ueyah |
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| 09:39.01 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75328 10Grid/ (GridFrame.lua GridStatus.lua GridStatusAuras.lua): |
| 09:39.01 | CIA-42 | Grid: |
| 09:39.01 | CIA-42 | - Added 3 arguments start, duration, stack to APIGridStatus:SendStatusGained(name, status, priority, range, color, text, value, maxValue, texture, start, duration, stack). |
| 09:39.01 | CIA-42 | - Added stack count text to bottom right corner of center icon, reads from stack argument. |
| 09:39.01 | CIA-42 | - Enable center icon cooldown frame, reads from start, duration arguments. |
| 09:39.02 | CIA-42 | - GridStatusAuras to support new stack argument. |
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| 09:41.01 | CIA-42 | 03snago * r75329 10oUF_IncomingHeals/oUF_IncomingHeals.lua: |
| 09:41.01 | CIA-42 | oUF_IncomingHeals: |
| 09:41.01 | CIA-42 | - Bugfix |
| 09:42.30 | Gibbonz|Work | so the concensus(sp?) is to drop Primal Tenacity & Feral Aggression to focus on maxing the other 2 and Nurturing Instinct? |
| 09:43.40 | Gibbonz|Work | and Improved Leader of the Pack heh |
| 09:44.19 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: And Savage Fury if you need it. |
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| 09:46.16 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: This is my current build: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Nozdormu&n=Rathragos |
| 09:46.23 | Gibbonz|Work | I have that maxed |
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| 09:47.10 | Gibbonz|Work | oh right you meant drop it :D |
| 09:47.22 | SunTsu | Yeah ;) |
| 09:48.01 | thul | I can just imagine slow, slow, slow 2h ret-pala with wf :-P plus rogue.. plus shaman |
| 09:48.05 | thul | lots of pew pew |
| 09:48.20 | Gibbonz|Work | thul: hehe |
| 09:48.58 | sica | it sucks as cloth-wearer, I'm playing PMR (I'm the Priest) and I such a team killed me instantly -.- |
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| 09:50.39 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r75330 10Parrot/Locales/ (6 files): |
| 09:50.39 | CIA-42 | Parrot: |
| 09:50.39 | CIA-42 | - added rev-numbers to localefiles |
| 09:50.39 | CIA-42 | - deDE update |
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| 09:51.21 | Gibbonz|Work | thanks for the input all |
| 09:52.22 | Gibbonz|Work | much appreciated :) |
| 09:52.58 | CIA-42 | 03profalbert * r75331 10Parrot/Locales/ (5 files): Parrot: oops, forgot svn:keywords |
| 09:53.22 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: You can drop Feral Aggression, too, if you like. It isn't that useful, really |
| 09:53.43 | SunTsu | Not for 5 points you have to invest in it |
| 09:55.20 | Gibbonz|Work | yeah, I mentioned that talent above :) |
| 09:55.37 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: Ah, right ;) |
| 09:57.51 | Gibbonz|Work | only reason I have it atm is in my regular groupie I'm the only tank and not the best geared so anything that means less ouchie helps ;p |
| 09:58.13 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: Being crit immune helps you much better |
| 09:58.57 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: And remember, it is not that you take 8% less damage, you improve demo roar for 8%, that's a big difference |
| 09:59.34 | *** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@80-123-29-211.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 09:59.35 | SunTsu | That is hardly noticable |
| 10:00.10 | Gibbonz|Work | yeah found that out at in smv.. a group of 4 of us started a quest we later realised was a 70G5 quest lol |
| 10:00.19 | Gibbonz|Work | -at |
| 10:00.44 | Gibbonz|Work | 3k crits hurt ;) |
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| 10:02.41 | SunTsu | Gibbonz|Work: The number of members recommended for a group quest is hardly any measurement. There were quests for 3-4 members I had no problem soloing with any of my char and some we needed two groups for a 5 man quest |
| 10:03.07 | Gibbonz|Work | true |
| 10:04.01 | SunTsu | I sometimes wonder how blizzard comes to those recommendations |
| 10:04.17 | sica | Battle of the Crimson Watch before the nerf o.O we managed to do it with 4 people - blowing all our cooldowns, but afterwards our guild usually did it with 10 people |
| 10:04.53 | Matrix110 | yeah before the nerf it was hard |
| 10:05.06 | Matrix110 | but manageable |
| 10:06.18 | SunTsu | sica: That was one of the above mentioned ;) I uses to 10 man it, too |
| 10:06.24 | SunTsu | used |
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| 10:15.55 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r75332 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/ (Bar_Manager.lua Button_Manager.lua Cooldown_Manager.lua): CoolDownButtons: fixed anchors, now testing all the other stuff :D |
| 10:17.02 | vhaarr | anyone know of an addon that notifies the party chat of what you pummeled/shield bashed/kicked/CS'ed? |
| 10:17.04 | vhaarr | etc |
| 10:17.16 | [Ammo] | isn't that a 4 line deal? |
| 10:17.28 | vhaarr | and hopefully nothing else |
| 10:17.31 | vhaarr | yeah it should be |
| 10:17.40 | [Ammo] | maybe a bit more if you want to support multiple ofcourse |
| 10:17.50 | [Ammo] | most of my guildmates just use a macro |
| 10:18.07 | Kulaar | shaman friend uses the same for earthshock interrupts |
| 10:18.14 | Kulaar | maybe you can steal the code :P |
| 10:18.37 | [Ammo] | vhaarr doesn't need to steal code |
| 10:18.54 | vhaarr | yeah I can make it in 5min but I'm asking if it exists already |
| 10:18.54 | [Ammo] | I bet he can type it faster than find the addon to copy it from :) |
| 10:18.56 | vhaarr | then I don't have to |
| 10:18.59 | vhaarr | indeed :P |
| 10:19.44 | Matrix110 | vharr macro it? but if you want suceed messages aswell or what buff got dispelled it gets a bit heavier |
| 10:20.18 | Matrix110 | but I didnt find a Addon so far |
| 10:20.24 | vhaarr | I'll make one then |
| 10:20.31 | Matrix110 | i know there are some but I cant find em |
| 10:20.35 | CIA-42 | 03ananhaid * r75333 10Recount/locales/Recount-frFR.lua: |
| 10:20.35 | CIA-42 | Recount: |
| 10:20.35 | CIA-42 | - frFR typo. |
| 10:20.37 | [Ammo] | your 5 minutes start now! |
| 10:20.38 | [dRaCo] | hooking your debuffs alone won't do it, would it? |
| 10:20.43 | vhaarr | haha, not now, later :P |
| 10:20.55 | [Ammo] | [dRaCo]: it would involve CLEU |
| 10:21.07 | [dRaCo] | CLEU? |
| 10:21.09 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 10:21.18 | [dRaCo] | ~cleu |
| 10:21.21 | [dRaCo] | :P |
| 10:21.40 | [dRaCo] | would you mind explaining that? |
| 10:21.48 | [Ammo] | combat_log_event_unfiltered |
| 10:21.53 | [Ammo] | CLEU |
| 10:21.53 | [dRaCo] | oh, i see |
| 10:22.13 | [dRaCo] | thanks |
| 10:22.19 | Bruners | is there an addon that can scream to me if Feign Death gets resisted? can it be done with parrot ? |
| 10:22.52 | Matrix110 | depends on if combatlog tells you that it got resisted |
| 10:22.56 | Matrix110 | else no |
| 10:23.03 | [dRaCo] | afaik it does |
| 10:23.22 | [Ammo] | all those questions can be answered with a humongous configurable dragon of an addon |
| 10:23.41 | [Ammo] | basically configure the CLEU you want to listen to and respond in a certain manner :) |
| 10:23.59 | [Ammo] | and no, that's not a good solution :p |
| 10:24.05 | [dRaCo] | figured |
| 10:25.19 | Gibbonz|Work | ugh.. resists are evil :P |
| 10:26.19 | Matrix110 | the only thing that is evil is if you are doing Council are the mage tank(which is normally the easiest job) and at the pull you successfully spellsteal but the buff "fails" |
| 10:26.21 | [Ammo] | my MSBT used to report soul shatter resists |
| 10:26.31 | [Ammo] | no idea if it still does, haven't used it in a while |
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| 10:28.00 | CIA-42 | 03nevcairiel * r75334 10Bartender4/ (Bar.lua Bartender4.lua Button.lua StanceBar.lua): Bartender4: fix module enabling/disabling in various modules |
| 10:30.28 | Punkie | teabags [Ammo]. |
| 10:30.39 | mikma | yihaa |
| 10:30.54 | ramoz | nevcairiel: go commit fadeout! =( |
| 10:31.06 | mikma | fades ramoz out |
| 10:31.15 | ramoz | so mean! |
| 10:32.48 | FtH|Daemona | grumbles. |
| 10:32.59 | FtH|Daemona | how can someone break fubar_skillsplusfu ? |
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| 10:37.21 | [SW]Dodge | lua> 2%2 |
| 10:37.22 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: 0 |
| 10:37.26 | [SW]Dodge | lua> 2%3 |
| 10:37.26 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: 2 |
| 10:37.29 | [SW]Dodge | lua> 2%4 |
| 10:37.30 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: 2 |
| 10:37.33 | [SW]Dodge | O.o |
| 10:37.35 | [SW]Dodge | why 2? |
| 10:37.45 | Elkano | since 2 = 0*4 + 2 |
| 10:37.55 | Elkano | it's modulo |
| 10:38.00 | Elkano | lua> 3%2 |
| 10:38.01 | lua_bot | Elkano: 1 |
| 10:38.15 | [SW]Dodge | lua> 3%2 |
| 10:38.15 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: 1 |
| 10:38.19 | [SW]Dodge | lua> 4%2 |
| 10:38.20 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: 0 |
| 10:38.22 | [SW]Dodge | ah :D |
| 10:38.37 | [SW]Dodge | i have to use X%2 not 2%X :D |
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| 10:42.59 | nevcairiel | thats pretty obvious |
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| 10:43.28 | nevcairiel | a%b is remainder of a divided by b, not the other way around :P |
| 10:44.14 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: deadened does exactly that |
| 10:46.54 | FtH|Daemona | http://ace.pastey.net/88549 ... just to make sure... the errors there are a fubar'd frFR translation for recount, someone fubar'd skillsplusfu and some tooltip error right? |
| 10:47.46 | odt | is bt4 usable? |
| 10:47.51 | chosi | yup |
| 10:47.53 | odt | k |
| 10:49.44 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: looks like enchantrix breaks SkillPlusFu |
| 10:50.08 | FtH|Daemona | interesting, cause i didnt update enchantrix and it didnt happen yesterday and the day before |
| 10:51.20 | FtH|Daemona | gonna rollback my fubarskillsplusfu for cross checking... |
| 10:56.37 | Gibbonz|Work | anyone mind taking a look at fixing FuBar_TrackerFu if they have a moment to spare :) |
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| 11:00.33 | FtH|Daemona | strange, i downgraded till may 7th version, disabled recount and lightheaded and still get http://ace.pastey.net/88550 |
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| 11:00.57 | Gibbonz|Work | back in a while, got lunch to eat |
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| 11:13.02 | grimman | Any way to populate the Grid addon with fake units? |
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| 11:13.20 | Matrix110 | join Alterac Valley |
| 11:13.31 | grimman | Those aren't fake. :P |
| 11:13.39 | grimman | Although they might as well be. |
| 11:14.25 | SunTsu | Matrix110: Now I know why there always are guys standing around at the beginning ob AV - they are configuring their Unit frames |
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| 11:14.46 | starlon | heh |
| 11:14.50 | starlon | is guilty |
| 11:14.55 | Matrix110 | I had people flaming me when i was staying in the base to configure it:P |
| 11:15.19 | starlon | I test all my addons in AV |
| 11:15.37 | grimman | So it's a no to populate it artificially then? |
| 11:16.07 | nevcairiel | some addons support it |
| 11:16.09 | nevcairiel | some dont |
| 11:16.13 | grimman | Indeed. |
| 11:16.15 | nevcairiel | i dont think grid does |
| 11:16.40 | grimman | On to the next point; if I have incomplete groups, can I have the background extend to the full size of the group anyway? |
| 11:16.48 | grimman | that would make my UI prettier. :P |
| 11:17.48 | chosi | wau should have support for complete UI compilations and support for downloading the saved variables aswell |
| 11:17.54 | chosi | \o/ |
| 11:18.17 | grimman | Because? |
| 11:19.19 | chosi | because that would be neat |
| 11:19.24 | chosi | :) |
| 11:19.28 | chosi | don't ask why. tsk |
| 11:19.29 | chosi | :D |
| 11:19.43 | grimman | People should just learn to spend weeks perfecting their UI instead. |
| 11:19.46 | grimman | It's tons more fun! |
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| 11:20.54 | digmouse | If I entered Kara without doing the attunement quest, can I get the reputation ring? |
| 11:21.09 | [Ammo] | no |
| 11:21.17 | sica | digmouse: yes |
| 11:21.19 | [dRaCo] | yes |
| 11:21.28 | [Ammo] | oh I thought that was only for those who did the quest |
| 11:21.33 | [Ammo] | or is that only the hyjal one |
| 11:21.38 | sica | no, that's only for hyjal |
| 11:21.41 | [dRaCo] | once you are friendly with the Violet Eye, the guy in front of the door will hand it to you |
| 11:21.41 | digmouse | So Kara is different from Hyjal? |
| 11:22.05 | sica | my twink-rogue never did the pre-quest but is wearing the ring :) |
| 11:22.08 | SunTsu | Hm, I was friendly with karazhan and couldn't get the quest |
| 11:22.32 | digmouse | You dont need to do the quest to get Violet Eye reputation then? |
| 11:22.34 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r75335 10FBagOfHolding/ (FBoH_Templates.lua FBoH_Templates.xml): |
| 11:22.34 | CIA-42 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 11:22.34 | CIA-42 | - Fixed item button templates to allow user to link and display items in the dressing room if the item is in the user's bank or on an alt. |
| 11:22.39 | [dRaCo] | no |
| 11:22.41 | nevcairiel | no |
| 11:22.49 | digmouse | just enter kara and slay? |
| 11:22.54 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 11:23.19 | digmouse | right, so that would spare me a lot of time to lead some newbies :D |
| 11:23.32 | [dRaCo] | my doomkin twink is almost revered without ever finishing the prequest |
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| 11:33.21 | CIA-42 | 03rabbit * r75336 10GnomishInterrupter/ (. GnomishInterrupter.lua GnomishInterrupter.toc): GnomishInterrupter: Initial commit, tells your party when you interrupt a spell. |
| 11:34.13 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r75337 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/ (Bar_Manager.lua Button_Manager.lua): CoolDownButtons: fixed Bug in "Center from Anchor" + "Multirow" option combination |
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| 11:41.36 | CIA-42 | 03charon * r75338 10Mangler/Mangler.lua: Mangler: v0.3.1: bugfix for "show labels" |
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| 11:45.59 | CIA-42 | 03starlon * r75339 10StarTip/ (14 files in 4 dirs): StarTip: Initial import. Unit tooltip in the style of CowTip, minus the DogTags. No options atm. |
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| 11:47.10 | CIA-42 | 03philosound * r75340 10Poppins/Modules/Poppins_ButtonFacadeSkins/Poppins_ButtonFacadeSkins.lua: |
| 11:47.10 | CIA-42 | Poppins: |
| 11:47.10 | CIA-42 | - extended the quick hack to a three line not-nice-but-working fix |
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| 11:48.26 | evl | Do I need stopcasting in 2.4? |
| 11:49.25 | kilrogg | just if you want to stop a running cast |
| 11:49.49 | SunTsu | hides kilrogg's eye |
| 11:50.32 | kilrogg | searches ... |
| 11:51.28 | Aoie_Aman | WoW LUA: how do i get a function to be run every x seconds? is there an event that fires once per second? |
| 11:51.45 | [Ammo] | use an onUpdate |
| 11:52.31 | Aoie_Aman | ok i will try this thx |
| 11:52.34 | [Ammo] | local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); local total = 0; f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) total = total + elapsed; if total > 1 then total = 0; ChatFrame1:AddMessage("Tick"); end end ) |
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| 11:55.43 | mitch0 | shouldn't that be >= ? :P |
| 11:56.10 | starlon | whatever floats your boat |
| 11:56.17 | FtH|Daemona | do you really care about that 0.001 second? |
| 11:56.51 | Groktar | it's the principle of the thing! |
| 11:57.15 | mitch0 | groktar: exactly ;) |
| 11:57.24 | Groktar | remembers all his segfaults in C |
| 11:57.37 | CIA-42 | 03philosound * r75341 10Poppins/Modules/Poppins_ButtonFacadeSkins/Poppins_ButtonFacadeSkins.lua: |
| 11:57.37 | CIA-42 | Poppins: |
| 11:57.37 | CIA-42 | - forgot a comment for Sorata |
| 11:57.53 | Groktar | although i would do > 0 |
| 11:57.54 | Groktar | :D |
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| 11:59.52 | Snago | I used timer >= 2 for an energy ticker and had some jerky behavior. Seemed less jerky with timer > 2 |
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| 12:00.48 | ramoz | Merry Poppins? |
| 12:00.59 | Groktar | i'd hit it |
| 12:01.01 | Groktar | mt |
| 12:01.06 | ramoz | yeah! |
| 12:01.09 | Snago | lol |
| 12:01.50 | orican | [22:00] ND_afk is now known as [ND]_afk |
| 12:03.11 | Aoie_Aman | ok i tryed it and i got this error: unexpected symbol near 'char(15)' |
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| 12:10.27 | Aoie_Aman | i got it thx @ all |
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| 12:21.01 | profalbert | so is there any addon out there to show DBMs "Pizza timers" as BigWigs bars? |
| 12:21.26 | dylanm | PIZZA TIMERS? |
| 12:21.38 | Groktar | you can set a timer in dbm that will show up for everyone else |
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| 12:21.42 | evl | oh yeah |
| 12:21.52 | profalbert | everyone else that has DBM |
| 12:21.58 | Groktar | ya |
| 12:21.58 | evl | bigwigs -> extras -> custom bars -> local -> 5:00 Pizza ready! |
| 12:22.06 | evl | or you can do that with a global bar |
| 12:22.14 | profalbert | yeah, but i need to see the bar started by the raid-leader |
| 12:22.17 | evl | I think there is some shortcut commandline but I never figure out what it was |
| 12:22.18 | ramoz | i want that global so we can see when our break is over |
| 12:22.21 | SunTsu | I used that as a pull timer very often |
| 12:22.23 | evl | oh |
| 12:22.27 | evl | then just do global bar? |
| 12:22.45 | ramoz | JESH! |
| 12:23.01 | profalbert | the problem is: the raidleader starts a timer using DBM. I use BigWigs and can't see that timer |
| 12:23.20 | Groktar | i would just get dbm and disable all the modules, tbh |
| 12:23.31 | ramoz | BigWigs uses AceComm, DBM uses some other shit? |
| 12:23.41 | profalbert | DBM uses SendAddonMessage |
| 12:23.53 | ramoz | so no can do, unless you hook that message in a own addon |
| 12:23.59 | vhaarr | BW doesn't use AceComm |
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| 12:24.06 | profalbert | than that's what I'll do |
| 12:24.20 | ramoz | SAWWY! |
| 12:24.40 | dibs | You can make those bars with /bwcb |
| 12:24.45 | dibs | If we are thinking about the same |
| 12:25.01 | dibs | Oh nevermind |
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| 12:32.05 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75342 10GridManaBars/GridManaBar.lua: |
| 12:32.05 | CIA-42 | GridManaBars: |
| 12:32.05 | CIA-42 | - Fix for new SetIndicator format |
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| 12:33.28 | [Ammo] | profalbert: one small tiny issue though, all bars in DBM are sync'd and I think think you can spot the difference between custom bars and bars from the bossmods |
| 12:33.32 | [Ammo] | from the sync message that is |
| 12:33.42 | [Ammo] | at least you couldn't a while ago |
| 12:34.25 | profalbert | well I just managed to make a small addon |
| 12:34.48 | profalbert | capturing the addonmessages from DBM and starting a BigWigs timer with the data |
| 12:34.49 | [Ammo] | if you can distinguish the custom dbm bars from the regular once you can easily do that yeah |
| 12:35.05 | [Ammo] | otherwise you'll end up with lots of bars :) |
| 12:35.10 | profalbert | hmm right |
| 12:35.21 | vhaarr | we already did this a year ago |
| 12:35.36 | [Ammo] | yeah some dbm module |
| 12:35.41 | [Ammo] | but turns out they sync all their timers |
| 12:35.45 | [Ammo] | every single one of em |
| 12:36.04 | Ozguli | isn't that helluva lot of addon spam? |
| 12:36.04 | profalbert | i only need to get the TimerStart-message |
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| 12:36.25 | [Ammo] | profalbert: you'll get them for all bars dbm starts |
| 12:36.48 | vhaarr | profalbert: you don't get it, we've already MADE THIS |
| 12:36.57 | vhaarr | go read the code for Extras/Custom.lua |
| 12:36.59 | vhaarr | svn history |
| 12:37.08 | vhaarr | you don't have to do shit |
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| 12:37.17 | vhaarr | but we *reverted* it, because of what Ammo said |
| 12:37.30 | profalbert | vhaarr: ah, i see |
| 12:37.48 | profalbert | so there's no proper way to do that |
| 12:37.54 | [Ammo] | indeed |
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| 12:38.30 | profalbert | I can just hardcode the timernames into the addon |
| 12:38.38 | profalbert | "Pull inc" |
| 12:38.57 | profalbert | so only a bar named "pull inc" will be started |
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| 12:44.17 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75343 10GridIndicatorCornerIcons/GridIndicatorCornerIcons.lua: |
| 12:44.17 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorCornerIcons: |
| 12:44.17 | CIA-42 | - Fix for new SetIndicator format |
| 12:44.41 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75344 10GridIndicatorCornerText/GridIndicatorCornerText.lua: |
| 12:44.41 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorCornerText: |
| 12:44.41 | CIA-42 | - Fix for new SetIndicator format |
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| 12:46.44 | b00gy | hi there, i have a question regarding tablet-2.0, i calways get the error: You must add categories in within a registration. can someone help me what exactly that means? couldn't find a lot about it. code is nearly 1:1 from a nother addon (closegnome fubar plugin) |
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| 12:48.25 | evl | zomg you bolded like 75% |
| 12:48.35 | evl | might catch herpes from that |
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| 12:48.57 | Tigerdyr | or sars |
| 12:49.03 | FtH|Daemona | aids? |
| 12:49.10 | Tigerdyr | wait a sec,, that's from touching wet wood |
| 12:49.26 | b00gy | thats from c&p sorry ^^ |
| 12:49.37 | evl | men have died from copy paste |
| 12:49.40 | evl | consider yourself lucky |
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| 12:49.56 | Tigerdyr | Too late, the extermination team is underway - no way to recall them |
| 12:50.12 | evl | Reminds me to watch Brazil again some day :) |
| 12:50.17 | b00gy | maybe they can help me then :) |
| 12:50.18 | Tigerdyr | wonderful movie |
| 12:50.32 | Tigerdyr | They will.. Oh.. trust me.. they will, you will never have a problem again. |
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| 12:50.54 | evl | b00gy: actually I'd look into the tablet code and find the error message and check what condition it's failing on |
| 12:51.05 | Tigerdyr | hm.. Jellybean combo: Coffee and Popcorn/Butter cannot be recommended |
| 12:51.14 | b00gy | yeah i tried that evl... |
| 12:51.35 | b00gy | but its not like.. well commented or anything |
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| 12:51.56 | evl | real men don't need comments |
| 12:52.06 | dibs | With AceEvent-2.0, ScheduleEvent() - I want to set a delay of buffExpire - 15 seconds. Would that be ScheduleEvent("name", (buffExpire - 15), buffName) ? |
| 12:52.09 | evl | they need beer, bitches and a good text-editor, hold my beer, I'm going into tablet |
| 12:52.44 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75345 10GridIndicatorCornerPlus/GridIndicatorCornerPlus.lua: |
| 12:52.44 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorCornerPlus: |
| 12:52.44 | CIA-42 | - Fix for new SetIndicator format |
| 12:52.52 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75346 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/GridIndicatorSideIcons.lua: |
| 12:52.52 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorSideIcons: |
| 12:52.52 | CIA-42 | - Fix for new SetIndicator format |
| 12:53.01 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75347 10GridIndicatorText3/GridIndicatorText3.lua: |
| 12:53.02 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorText3: |
| 12:53.02 | CIA-42 | - Fix for new SetIndicator format |
| 12:53.07 | Aoie_Aman | how do i hide a frame that is created with CreateFrame? |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75348 10GridSideIndicators/GridSideIndicators.lua: |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-42 | GridSideIndicators: |
| 12:53.10 | CIA-42 | - Fix for new SetIndicator format |
| 12:53.21 | Elkano | :Hide() ? |
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| 12:54.29 | evl | b00gy: think you might need to call Attach |
| 12:55.29 | b00gy | mh ok ill give it a shot, but what is register(<frame>) for then? |
| 12:56.52 | b00gy | nope didnt help :) |
| 12:56.54 | Groktar | gives FtH|Daemona the IBS |
| 12:57.01 | Groktar | ugh |
| 12:57.11 | Groktar | i hate it when i'm scrolled up and don't realize it |
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| 12:57.26 | Groktar | night muffins |
| 12:57.37 | nevcairiel | muffins? |
| 13:03.22 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r75349 10CoolDownButtons/Modules/ (3 files in 2 dirs): CoolDownButtons: fixed issue with wrong icon positions under certain conditions |
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| 13:26.55 | Aoie_Aman | is there a docu how to use createFrame |
| 13:27.03 | grimman | http://bonescraper.net/ui_wip2.jpg -- now how sexy is THAT? ;P |
| 13:27.43 | grimman | Aoie_Aman: Perhaps something like http://www.google.com/search?q=wow+api+createframe would do the trick? |
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| 13:27.56 | nevcairiel | not really sexy at all |
| 13:27.58 | nevcairiel | sorry :( |
| 13:28.12 | grimman | nevcairiel: Wut? :O |
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| 13:28.22 | CIA-42 | 03dodge 072.1 * r75350 10CoolDownButtons/ (9 files in 4 dirs): CoolDownButtons: abc ^.^ :D |
| 13:28.30 | nevcairiel | that ui is unbalanced |
| 13:28.34 | nevcairiel | all stuff in one corner |
| 13:28.39 | nevcairiel | ugly unit frames |
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| 13:28.59 | grimman | Well yes... it is. It's also a WIP. And what's wrong with the unit frames? |
| 13:29.20 | nevcairiel | one really big icon for pvp status but way too small auras? |
| 13:29.27 | nevcairiel | also, grey |
| 13:29.31 | grimman | Working on it. :P |
| 13:29.33 | grimman | Grey == sexy. |
| 13:29.48 | grimman | PVP shouldn't really be there either, that's the space I have the cast bar. |
| 13:29.51 | nevcairiel | class color, or coloring based on HP value |
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| 13:30.04 | nevcairiel | green = full, yellow = half dead, red = near death |
| 13:30.08 | nevcairiel | grey = dead or offline |
| 13:30.20 | grimman | Not sure whether to leave the cast bar area always filled, or show the background when someone is casting. |
| 13:30.35 | grimman | <40% == red |
| 13:31.00 | grimman | No wait, 30%, I changed that. |
| 13:31.46 | grimman | The level + race and class is class coloured. I suppose actually having class there is superfluous. |
| 13:31.52 | grimman | Hmmyes. /make note |
| 13:32.16 | grimman | Anything else I should think about? |
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| 13:32.30 | nevcairiel | you kinda lack action buttons |
| 13:32.39 | grimman | All hotkeyed. |
| 13:32.44 | grimman | No problem there. |
| 13:32.59 | nevcairiel | also, personally, i dont like buff-bars |
| 13:33.03 | nevcairiel | icons take way less space |
| 13:33.12 | grimman | I tried the icons. |
| 13:33.22 | grimman | http://bonescraper.net/ui_wip.jpg |
| 13:33.32 | Elkano | looks like it has EBB, so sexy enought ;) |
| 13:33.45 | grimman | Elkano: Yes. And I do believe I love you for that addon. |
| 13:34.24 | Elkano | but why do you have honor fu show BG statistics? |
| 13:34.41 | SunTsu | Hm, is there any way in chatter to actually search through the alt links? |
| 13:34.49 | grimman | No reason really. |
| 13:35.12 | ramoz | grimman: what instance is that? |
| 13:35.15 | Zhinjio | so I have an SKG:OnDisable() function defined |
| 13:35.24 | grimman | ramoz: Uhm... Dire Maul. :P |
| 13:35.28 | grimman | (north) |
| 13:35.29 | charon | hmm, has this been around the wow forums yet? http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1189 |
| 13:35.30 | Zhinjio | attempting to call SKG:Disable(), however, failed indicating there is no such function |
| 13:35.35 | charon | appeared on /. a few hours ago |
| 13:35.46 | charon | it seems there's a remote code execution bug in flash... pretty serious |
| 13:35.53 | CIA-42 | 03dodge * r75351 10CoolDownButtons/ (9 files in 5 dirs): CoolDownButtons: clean up |
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| 13:37.51 | grimman | Ooh... maybe make an EBB group for the target unit frame and anchor my debuffs under my unit frame and the target's debuffs under the target's unit frame. |
| 13:39.05 | CIA-42 | 03dodge * r75352 10CoolDownButtons/ (27 files in 5 dirs): CoolDownButtons: recommit |
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| 13:41.30 | grimman | Oh wow... 6 hours tinkering with the UI today. Insanity. :O |
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| 13:48.24 | b00gy | so i finally got my tablet working (tablet-2.0) but it closes when the mouse leaves the parent frame...but in the tablet are clickable elements, so it should only close if i leave the tablet....any idea what im doing wrong? |
| 13:49.29 | Pkekyo| | kids are weird |
| 13:49.48 | Pkekyo| | because I've got a beard they automatically figure that I'm the owner of the closest BMW around o.O' |
| 13:49.58 | nevcairiel | good for you? |
| 13:50.20 | Industrial | lol >_O |
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| 13:50.38 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: if only they'd give me the keys, then yes! :p |
| 13:52.09 | Pkekyo| | I'm walking home...pass a bunch of kids standing 'round a brand new BMW (I make it sound like it's a good thing :/ ) and they come running 'round wanting to know stuff 'bout "my car" |
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| 13:52.25 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Having kids on your side is always good. I gave a bunch around here some ice cream and since then they always watched my car, told me when I forgot to lock it, told me when I forgot to turn of the lights and such ;) |
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| 13:53.12 | Pkekyo| | if I started giving candy and ice cream to kids 'round here their parents most likely would call the cops on me :P |
| 13:53.19 | Pkekyo| | don't exactly look too innocent :< |
| 13:53.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:53.29 | Pkekyo| | oh, and yeah, that's of no use to me...don't even have a car :p |
| 13:53.32 | nevcairiel | would be fun |
| 13:53.36 | Pkekyo| | (thus I was walking home) |
| 13:53.39 | Pkekyo| | not really |
| 13:53.47 | Pkekyo| | I don't like dealing with the cozzers |
| 13:54.38 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: They helped me to get into a parking space, so I bought them some Icecream to thank them ;) |
| 13:55.32 | Pkekyo| | you made some poor helpless kids carry your car in between two other cars to park it?! :p |
| 13:55.35 | Pkekyo| | also: l2park >.< |
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| 13:57.37 | Pkekyo| | if you can't park your car on your own, you should give it to me! |
| 13:58.20 | Pkekyo| | bah....some moron neighbour has a propane fueled barberque thingie with shitty combustion...it's stinking up the entire neighbourhood |
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| 13:59.34 | Pkekyo| | I hate neighbours :p |
| 14:01.02 | Pkekyo| | those kids annoy me tbh...I wouldn't be caught dead in a BMW, let alone alive! :p |
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| 14:05.06 | Pkekyo| | anyone seen the movie Black Sheep? |
| 14:06.40 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Ellipsis? |
| 14:06.43 | purl | ellipsis <n=ellipsis@97-113-12-2.tukw.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 3h 40m 23s ago, saying: 'yeah, I think I'll pass :P'. |
| 14:06.56 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Ellipsis? |
| 14:06.56 | purl | ellipsis <n=ellipsis@97-113-12-2.tukw.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 21d 3h 40m 36s ago, saying: 'yeah, I think I'll pass :P'. |
| 14:07.09 | Pkekyo| | purl won't accept mah special character :< |
| 14:07.21 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: did you kill and eat Ellipsis? |
| 14:07.40 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: we haven't been together for a while |
| 14:07.42 | Ozguli | Pkekyo| never laughed so much when watching a movie |
| 14:08.14 | nevcairiel | you broke up eh? that would explain why she doesnt come here anymore |
| 14:08.16 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: kinda figured, that's why I asked...havent seen'er around since late march/early april |
| 14:08.27 | ckknight | she's in some other channels |
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| 14:08.40 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yea, she went to Washington, I went to Alabama |
| 14:08.48 | Pkekyo| | but then again, I spent half of may and april practically in a coma |
| 14:09.01 | Pkekyo| | Ozguli: wish I could say the same :p |
| 14:09.40 | Ozguli | btw, the fact I hadn't slept in ~40 hours maybe affected my experiment |
| 14:10.03 | CIA-42 | 03mikk * r75353 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: |
| 14:10.03 | CIA-42 | BadBoy: |
| 14:10.03 | CIA-42 | * Add k4gold.com |
| 14:10.03 | CIA-42 | * Add "n.n (gbp|eur) / nnn" generic trigger (k4gold used it) |
| 14:10.18 | Pkekyo| | yeah, maybe |
| 14:10.24 | Pkekyo| | it was rather entertaining though |
| 14:12.48 | Pkekyo| | Knives in the pants, knives in the air...HELP! KNIVES ARE EVERYWHERE! |
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| 14:13.25 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75354 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: |
| 14:13.25 | CIA-42 | Grid: |
| 14:13.25 | CIA-42 | - Fixed Text2 font appearance |
| 14:13.25 | CIA-42 | - IconStackText now easier to read |
| 14:13.25 | CIA-42 | - Hide IconStackText and IconCD in ClearIndicator |
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| 14:23.41 | CIA-42 | 03ag 07ag_Extras * r75355 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras.toc: ag_UnitFrames: (extras) added embeds xml to toc |
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| 14:24.57 | ikon- | im looking at someones code where he is parsing combat events, and the params of his function dont seem to correspond to the params listed on wowwiki |
| 14:24.59 | ikon- | function DOT_TIMER:CombatStarted() |
| 14:24.59 | ikon- | inCombat = true |
| 14:24.59 | ikon- | end |
| 14:25.30 | ikon- | whoops wrong code.. |
| 14:25.39 | ikon- | ParseCombatEvent(_, _, eventType, _, sourceName, _, _, _, _, spellID, _, _, damage) |
| 14:25.58 | dylanm | What's wrong with that |
| 14:26.18 | ikon- | wowwiki says event shoud be the 2nd param |
| 14:26.46 | dylanm | Pastey some context. |
| 14:27.12 | ikon- | self:RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED", "ParseCombatEvent") |
| 14:28.05 | ikon- | that good enough? |
| 14:28.27 | dylanm | This is AceEvent-3.0? |
| 14:28.33 | ikon- | yes |
| 14:28.34 | dylanm | You probably get the event name first. |
| 14:28.41 | dylanm | Like, the one for which you registered. |
| 14:30.28 | dylanm | So ParseCombatEvent("COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED", timestamp, combatEvent, ...). |
| 14:31.05 | ikon- | ok, thanks |
| 14:34.13 | b00gy | is there a way to display a table (Tablet-2.0) with a certain vertical offset? |
| 14:35.08 | SunTsu | Hm, warcrafter somehow loses 10k armor for my druid in bear form ;) |
| 14:35.34 | CIA-42 | 03jerry * r75356 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data_frFR.lua: Talented_Data: regenerate |
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| 14:41.35 | CIA-42 | 03mikk * r75357 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: |
| 14:41.35 | CIA-42 | BadBoy: |
| 14:41.35 | CIA-42 | - Remove the two "n/n" filters i just added. The already-existing "%W" matches "/". |
| 14:41.41 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75358 10MiniPet/embeds.xml: |
| 14:41.41 | CIA-42 | MiniPet: |
| 14:41.41 | CIA-42 | - Fixed embeds.xml |
| 14:42.23 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75359 10Mount/embeds.xml: |
| 14:42.23 | CIA-42 | Mount: |
| 14:42.23 | CIA-42 | - Fixed embeds.xml |
| 14:44.57 | AckisWork | morning everyone |
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| 14:48.48 | Trell_ | a totally unrelated to ace question here - but does anyone know why SK and the other guilds that downed KJ took a Sub Rogue along |
| 14:48.54 | CIA-42 | 03zeksie * r75360 10ZOMGBuffs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 14:48.54 | CIA-42 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 14:48.54 | CIA-42 | - Fixed a couple of display issues with the raid popup list. Sorry for delay commiting this. Senility kicking in. |
| 14:49.04 | Trell_ | surely the hemo debuff can't be that awesome, that it requires a whole raid spot for it |
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| 14:56.09 | AckisWork | so, how can I link to an external image on the Wowace wiki? |
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| 15:00.01 | SunTsu | AckisWork: Won't the [img]-tag work? |
| 15:00.15 | AckisWork | no, it looked really ugly |
| 15:00.22 | AckisWork | like tried to link w/i the wikli |
| 15:00.41 | Fisker- | haxes Zeksie |
| 15:01.53 | AckisWork | like: :[[Image:http://www.dkpsigs.com/sigs/Illidan/229890.jpg]] tries to link to an internal wiki page |
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| 15:15.01 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r75361 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0.lua: |
| 15:15.01 | CIA-42 | LibKeyBound-1.0: |
| 15:15.01 | CIA-42 | -- What does AutoDoc want from me in order to document this? |
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| 15:24.30 | Funkeh` | flash exploit is on secunia now |
| 15:25.46 | Funkeh` | still no fix from adobe |
| 15:25.51 | Funkeh` | lazy bastards |
| 15:26.03 | Funkeh` | workarounds > http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/395473 |
| 15:26.09 | durcyn | knowing adobe, it was probably an intentional back door |
| 15:26.32 | Toadkiller | Really? How do you "know" Adobe? |
| 15:26.33 | b00gy | if i have an already defined locale in aceLocale-3.0, is it possible to inject another translation? eg all but 1 translation is in StatsBlock locale and i want only to add this on, cant his be done? |
| 15:26.45 | durcyn | we had a brief sexual interlude back in college, Toadkiller. |
| 15:26.52 | durcyn | that slut. |
| 15:27.20 | Funkeh` | no cix in 2+ days = wtf |
| 15:27.22 | Funkeh` | fix |
| 15:27.31 | Toadkiller | Your comment is baloney then. Few organizations add backdoors to their code |
| 15:27.40 | Funkeh` | not like it's a weekend or something |
| 15:28.06 | durcyn | being that it was intended in jest, yes, i can see how baloney might become involved |
| 15:28.23 | durcyn | you own stock or something? bit quick on the draw there. |
| 15:28.53 | b00gy | is funkydude here? |
| 15:29.05 | durcyn | b00gy: that'd be Funkeh` |
| 15:29.34 | b00gy | ok thanks :) Funkeh' are you awake? |
| 15:29.43 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 15:29.48 | Toadkiller | I write software for a living. I dislike people making comments like that. It was not exactly clear you were joking. |
| 15:30.24 | b00gy | i made some additions to your StatBlock_CloseGnome so you can select your Gear in the tooltip, just like in the fubar addon |
| 15:31.07 | Funkeh` | alright |
| 15:31.22 | Toadkiller | And yes I have worked for Adobe and the stock has done extremely well for me. |
| 15:32.25 | Funkeh` | b00gy, are you wanting to commit it? |
| 15:32.38 | b00gy | i'm not that good at lua/ace-frame work, do you want to check it first? does work without errors for me though |
| 15:34.25 | Funkeh` | don't have time, just commit ill check t later |
| 15:34.32 | Funkeh` | leaving in a sec |
| 15:34.52 | b00gy | okay, as the code is 99% copied from the fubar plugin, iz should be okay |
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| 15:39.49 | Fisker- | slaps Funkeh` around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:40.52 | Fisker- | so the only solution at the moment is to disable flash entirely? |
| 15:41.45 | SunTsu | Which is a wise choice, anyway |
| 15:42.03 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 15:42.04 | Fisker- | silverlight ftw |
| 15:42.05 | Fisker- | :D |
| 15:42.13 | Fisker- | (i went there) |
| 15:43.28 | Punkie | Gnash? |
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| 15:49.24 | CIA-42 | 03mfg * r75362 10StatBlocks_ClosetGnome/StatBlocks_ClosetGnome.lua: |
| 15:49.24 | CIA-42 | StatBlocks_ClosetGnome: |
| 15:49.24 | CIA-42 | - changed the tooltip to behave like the FuBar version (selecting Sets from the tooltip directly) |
| 15:49.24 | CIA-42 | - added a few options for tooltip-positioning |
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| 15:52.29 | ag` | hey Kemayo, your heallib bar goes outside the unit frame width if overhealing, is that intended? :) |
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| 15:58.00 | CIA-42 | 03mfg * r75363 10StatBlocks_ClosetGnome/StatBlocks_ClosetGnome.lua: |
| 15:58.01 | CIA-42 | StatBlocks_ClosetGnome: |
| 15:58.01 | CIA-42 | - changed right-click behavior to match the tooltip behavior |
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| 16:01.09 | CIA-42 | 03sag_ich_nicht * r75364 10Moonshine/ (. Moonshine.lua Moonshine.toc): |
| 16:01.09 | CIA-42 | Moonshine: initial commit |
| 16:01.09 | CIA-42 | - Kills the annoying character ambient lighting permanently. |
| 16:01.10 | CIA-42 | - Apparently CVars aren't stored if their value is default or nil, but the character ambient lighting is only turned completely off if characterAmbient is set to nil instead of 0. |
| 16:01.10 | CIA-42 | -If you're using Luaslinger or similar, you're probably better off just throwing ConsoleExec("characterAmbient"); somewhere in there instead of using this addon. |
| 16:01.14 | CIA-42 | ~lick Ellipsis |
| 16:01.14 | purl | ACTION licks Ellipsis *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 16:01.29 | AckisWork | ewwww! you got licked! |
| 16:02.16 | durcyn | she's not even here :> |
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| 16:06.57 | AckisWork | Wow Funkeh`, modding the Ackis Recipe List thread! :D |
| 16:07.41 | durcyn | i still htae you. |
| 16:07.43 | durcyn | hate* |
| 16:07.50 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:07.53 | AckisWork | no you don't :P |
| 16:08.06 | AckisWork | you lub me! |
| 16:08.22 | durcyn | that's supposed to be our secret! |
| 16:08.24 | thul | lube up. |
| 16:08.36 | AckisWork | i guess it's out now =/ |
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| 16:15.49 | CIA-42 | 03Thaoky * r75365 10Altoholic/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:15.49 | CIA-42 | Altoholic: |
| 16:15.49 | CIA-42 | - Fixed a lua error when mousing over equipment from another realm than the current. |
| 16:15.49 | CIA-42 | - Added zhTW suggestions |
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| 16:18.02 | Toadkiller | Whats the pally ability that slows your movement? |
| 16:18.26 | durcyn | judgement of jutice |
| 16:18.30 | durcyn | justice, bother. |
| 16:18.34 | Toadkiller | aha tx |
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| 16:20.59 | kappaccino | rawr |
| 16:21.05 | DARKGuy | Mornin' :D |
| 16:21.09 | AckisWork | allo |
| 16:21.37 | DARKGuy | hey ^^ |
| 16:21.44 | kappaccino | man they should make an mmo fps |
| 16:21.56 | kappaccino | a skill based mmo that's just as virtually social as an mmo |
| 16:21.57 | DARKGuy | isn't that called Counter-Strike ? |
| 16:22.07 | kappaccino | ya but CS isn't exactly massive |
| 16:22.12 | kappaccino | it's like being in an instance with 32 people |
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| 16:22.38 | kappaccino | I mean mmo fps as in a HUGE battlefield of war |
| 16:22.48 | kappaccino | imagine starcraft in first person view *zomg* |
| 16:22.59 | evl | There's a game like that out |
| 16:23.00 | evl | for years |
| 16:23.04 | evl | Don't recall name though |
| 16:23.38 | evl | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlanetSide |
| 16:24.24 | DARKGuy | that isn't a game |
| 16:24.32 | DARKGuy | that's a game attempt |
| 16:24.38 | kappaccino | damn that looks blocky haha |
| 16:25.01 | DARKGuy | oh no, I confused it with Planetsomethingelse |
| 16:25.21 | DARKGuy | looks like Tribes :D |
| 16:26.15 | kappaccino | uuuuuugh, can't wait for starcraft 2 |
| 16:26.46 | DARKGuy | makes grabby hands |
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| 16:27.42 | CIA-42 | 03sag_ich_nicht * r75366 10Moonshine/Moonshine.lua: |
| 16:27.42 | CIA-42 | Moonshine: |
| 16:27.42 | CIA-42 | - Execute on PLAYER_LOGIN instead of immediately just to be safe. |
| 16:27.42 | CIA-42 | - Add license. |
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| 16:30.13 | DARKGuy | What does Moonshine do, exactly? oO I wonder what's the issue with CharacterAmbient |
| 16:30.22 | DARKGuy | I always set it to 1, it makes all characters look prettier |
| 16:30.47 | SunTsu | DARKGuy: I'd need that for RL |
| 16:31.05 | DARKGuy | SunTsu: how so? explain? I've never been RL :P |
| 16:31.10 | Kazie | Anyone experiencing constant errors on CDB? |
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| 16:33.06 | Zyndrome | 18:20.38 ( evl ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlanetSide |
| 16:33.12 | Zyndrome | I played that :< |
| 16:33.32 | Zyndrome | and there is still no worthy successor to it |
| 16:36.08 | CIA-42 | 03sag_ich_nicht * r75367 10Moonshine/Moonshine.lua: |
| 16:36.08 | CIA-42 | Moonshine: |
| 16:36.09 | CIA-42 | - Fix the most stupid copy paste error in the history of mankind. |
| 16:38.19 | CIA-42 | 03Kyopaxa * r75368 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: BlackTemple/Illidan: esES updated. |
| 16:40.41 | AckisWork | ~sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:40.42 | purl | sag_ich_nicht is probably <sag_ich_nicht> ckknight: no, because i'm a retard |
| 16:40.47 | AckisWork | ~seen sag_ich_nicht |
| 16:40.55 | purl | sag_ich_nicht <i=bitch2k@85.127.104.7> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 9d 19h 5m 1s ago, saying: '~asktoask'. |
| 16:41.33 | durcyn | he's probably still banned >_> |
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| 16:41.46 | DARKGuy | poor guy |
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| 16:42.37 | SunTsu | 43 - #wowace: ban *!*i=bitch2k@85.127.*.* [ - looks like it |
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| 16:43.03 | dylanm | Oh, what did he do? |
| 16:44.54 | ikon- | is there a debug mode or something for wow? |
| 16:45.25 | dylanm | ikon-: What do you want to do? |
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| 16:46.00 | ikon- | i want to see why my addon isnt loading up.. i dont even see it in the addon list |
| 16:46.39 | profalbert | is the .toc named exactly as the foldername? |
| 16:46.51 | dylanm | Most likely that's your folder or .toc being screwy. |
| 16:47.39 | ikon- | does the main lua file have a naming requirement? |
| 16:47.58 | profalbert | not really, but it has to be in the .toc |
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| 16:51.26 | Pkekyo| | Zyndrome: wth, PlanetSide actually was launched? |
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| 16:52.12 | Pkekyo| | never heard anything about it after early days of development |
| 16:52.17 | CIA-42 | 03pastamancer * r75369 10Grid/GridLayout.lua: Grid: GRID-9 fixed call to RestorePosition from StopMoveFrame when in combat. |
| 16:52.35 | Pkekyo| | ah...I see graphics weren't all they were crapped up to be .p |
| 16:52.37 | Pkekyo| | :p |
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| 16:56.05 | Zyndrome | Pkekyo| , it was |
| 16:56.17 | Zyndrome | I played it for a couple of months |
| 16:56.26 | Zyndrome | but the aging graphics are a big turnoff |
| 16:56.49 | Toadkiller | pastamancer: omg so now i can log in during combat and grid wont blow up? |
| 16:58.29 | pastamancer | Toadkiller: unrelated, the workaround for logging in during combat was weeks ago |
| 16:58.40 | Toadkiller | Ah nice. |
| 16:58.47 | pastamancer | that just fixes moving the frame in-combat |
| 16:59.26 | pastamancer | if you log in during combat grid will show your party and raid until you /reload or leave combat |
| 16:59.31 | NeoTron | so for some reason I can't set blizzard MT/MA by right clicking on the blizz raid UI. Anyone have any clue what might be breaking that? |
| 16:59.45 | pastamancer | taint from a chat mod usually |
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| 17:01.11 | dylanm | Or ClearFont, right? |
| 17:01.17 | NeoTron | hmm |
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| 17:01.30 | Toadkiller | That reminds me, need to make a grid module to support LibStickyFrames-1.0 |
| 17:01.38 | durcyn | anything that hooks the context menu could, NeoTron |
| 17:01.47 | durcyn | iirc xperl tainted it until recently |
| 17:01.56 | pastamancer | oh, right... forgot about that |
| 17:02.09 | pastamancer | Toadkiller: libstickyframes? just keep your pants on |
| 17:02.24 | pastamancer | then your frames won't get sticky |
| 17:02.57 | Toadkiller | Nothing crazy. It can be made to show up as a stick target for other mods. They still wont be able to set stuff during combat |
| 17:03.11 | Toadkiller | It would not change anything in grid itself. |
| 17:03.28 | pastamancer | ah, it makes frames snap together? |
| 17:03.34 | Toadkiller | Yep. |
| 17:03.53 | Toadkiller | Like the green bar dragging thing in BT3 but extended for multiple mods |
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| 17:04.17 | pastamancer | never used BT |
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| 17:05.13 | NeoTron | so chatter, clearfont or xperl might be tainting the menu? |
| 17:05.17 | Toadkiller | For instance it has support for chat frame sticking by making a blue overlay on top of it. So when you activate the sticking mode, the blue shows up and u can stick to it. It does not actually affect the chat fram in any way |
| 17:05.19 | AckisWork | wowace.com go down? |
| 17:05.29 | pastamancer | possibly |
| 17:06.00 | pastamancer | NeoTron: those are the most-likely culprits... you could always turn on your taint log to know for sure |
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| 17:09.01 | Pkekyo| | Zyndrome: when did it launch? |
| 17:09.12 | Pkekyo| | and why was the graphics so much more poop than promised? :p |
| 17:09.16 | Zyndrome | can't remember :( |
| 17:09.23 | Pkekyo| | ;> |
| 17:09.25 | Zyndrome | Vonhinten: SOE |
| 17:09.29 | Zyndrome | uhm eerrr |
| 17:09.32 | Zyndrome | Vonhinten: SOE |
| 17:09.34 | durcyn | yeah, planetside made it to retail |
| 17:09.37 | Zyndrome | GG NNSCRIPT |
| 17:09.49 | Pkekyo| | saw the first piece about it in PCGamer, then never heard anything about it ever again |
| 17:10.07 | Pkekyo| | Zyndrome: scripts are for poopers |
| 17:10.17 | thul | POOP IN YOUR EAR |
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| 17:10.37 | Pkekyo| | nothanks, I'm driving |
| 17:10.39 | Pkekyo| | also, hai thul |
| 17:10.45 | Pkekyo| | cute sunset photo |
| 17:11.14 | Pkekyo| | you're producing alot these days... |
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| 17:16.12 | NeoTron | pastamancer: is the taint log actually useful? thought it was inexact? :P |
| 17:16.17 | thul | Pkekyo|: hehe, i was at home this weekend.. :-P the place is magic |
| 17:16.22 | thul | impossible NOT to produce stuff. |
| 17:16.50 | Pkekyo| | hehe, true, was up in Gjevilvassdalen once...hated myself for not bringing my camera :p |
| 17:17.04 | Toadkiller | AutoDoc u rat bastard. cant have function blah blah blah as an Example: |
| 17:17.24 | Pkekyo| | rofl Toadkiller |
| 17:17.39 | Pkekyo| | thul: any idea of how regular kevlar handles stabbing btw? :p |
| 17:18.12 | Pkekyo| | do you do b/w in post-processing or camera? |
| 17:18.55 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Kavlar doesn't handle stabbing at all, AFAIK |
| 17:19.29 | SunTsu | Pkekyo|: Because Kevlar is able to take away impact energy, which isn't the problem with stabbing |
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| 17:19.55 | Pkekyo| | sounds reasonable enough |
| 17:19.58 | CIA-42 | 03toadkiller * r75370 10LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0/LibKeyBound-1.0.lua: |
| 17:19.58 | CIA-42 | LibKeyBound-1.0: |
| 17:19.58 | CIA-42 | -- DIAF AutoDoc. Removed "function" for Example: so it can Doc the function. |
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| 17:20.59 | Pkekyo| | know if there are made stab-vest insterts, and not just entire vests? |
| 17:21.25 | Toadkiller | If u wear kevlar, u carry a gun. Why care about the noob with the knife? |
| 17:21.35 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: not necessarily |
| 17:21.50 | Pkekyo| | I want a PACA BA with stabvest inserts :P |
| 17:22.50 | thul | Pkekyo|: post processing of course, it has to be.. :-P and gjevilvassdalen rocks |
| 17:22.58 | thul | SunTsu: wrong :-P |
| 17:23.01 | SunTsu | Toadkiller: A guy with a knife, who knows how to handle it is more dangerous than a guy with a gun |
| 17:23.04 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: Ok so the scenario is YOU are the noob with no gun so I come up to you with the knife and stab you in the armor if I am retarded, or perhaps I jsut stab you in the exposed bits if I have any sense whatsoever |
| 17:23.10 | thul | SunTsu: Pkekyo|: most kevlaer (bulletproof vest) does handle knives too |
| 17:23.18 | thul | all my three vests are bulletproof and handle knifes too. |
| 17:23.45 | Pkekyo| | hmm |
| 17:23.58 | Toadkiller | I think they should bring back knight armor but like modernized |
| 17:24.15 | thul | Pkekyo|: http://www.turtleskin.com/ <- get that :-P |
| 17:24.54 | Pkekyo| | I'm getting soft armor for extra-curricular activities (if you can call it that), but could also use a stab vest in the line of duty...figured I'd try to kill two stones with one bird :p |
| 17:24.55 | SunTsu | thul: But that's not due most to kevlar, but more how the vest is done |
| 17:25.12 | SunTsu | thul: Kevlar alone doesn't help much against pointy weapons |
| 17:25.12 | thul | SunTsu: well, it is about how tightly the kevlar is knitted and how the vest is done |
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| 17:25.35 | thul | SunTsu: well, again, that depends on how tightly the kevlar is knitted, my kevlar gloves are specifically designed to avoid cuts. |
| 17:25.44 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75371 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 17:25.44 | CIA-42 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:25.44 | CIA-42 | - Add Skinner to optdeps |
| 17:25.44 | Pkekyo| | http://www.turtleskin.com/Stab-Insert-Panels.aspx yay |
| 17:26.04 | Pkekyo| | so...a PACA with kevlar and a couple of those stab panels maybe? :> |
| 17:26.06 | thul | Iam an angel, I know Pkekyo| :-P |
| 17:26.37 | Pkekyo| | an angel in need of three sets of body armor? :p |
| 17:26.49 | SunTsu | thul: I know. It is just not kevlar alone. |
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| 17:27.21 | CIA-42 | 03pastamancer * r75372 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: |
| 17:27.21 | CIA-42 | Grid: |
| 17:27.21 | CIA-42 | * whitetooth, please do not change the API of GridFrameClass. |
| 17:27.41 | Pkekyo| | thul: reckon getting a set of SAPI plates would be a wee bit overkill? :p |
| 17:27.42 | thul | Pkekyo|: pfft, who doesent need that:P |
| 17:27.50 | thul | Pkekyo|: haha, yah.. and a bit on the heavy side. |
| 17:27.58 | Pkekyo| | yeah ^^ |
| 17:28.02 | thul | I dislike my bullet/knife-vest enough as it is, hot and tight.. |
| 17:28.17 | CIA-42 | 03LordFarlander * r75373 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 17:28.17 | CIA-42 | MiniPet: |
| 17:28.17 | CIA-42 | - Fixed place where wasn't using spellID |
| 17:28.22 | Pkekyo| | I've heard alot of good stuff about the PACA low-vis BA |
| 17:31.19 | Pkekyo| | that TurtleSkin stuff looks extremely good |
| 17:31.54 | Pkekyo| | thul: know anything about the army issue frag vests? |
| 17:32.10 | thul | Pkekyo|: well, they are large, heavy, bulky, cumbersome |
| 17:32.17 | thul | 12-17kgs, depending on how many plates |
| 17:32.22 | thul | I hate running 3000m in those, fo sho. |
| 17:32.30 | Pkekyo| | ok, not a bargain for me then :p |
| 17:32.47 | Pkekyo| | found one for 1100 nok+ shipping |
| 17:33.00 | thul | well, depends which it is, we had light under-the-uniform vests too |
| 17:33.01 | Pkekyo| | not new though, so not quite sure if I'd like to have my life dependant on it :p |
| 17:33.02 | thul | they weren't too shabby |
| 17:33.09 | Pkekyo| | sec, grabbing a pic |
| 17:33.29 | Pkekyo| | http://www.augdal.net/bilder/splint01.jpg |
| 17:33.31 | Pkekyo| | that's the one |
| 17:34.13 | *** join/#wowace Sekkyo (n=sekkyo@dsl092-250-144.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 17:34.27 | Pkekyo| | always thought they looked great...never got any info on specs/feel etc though |
| 17:35.22 | Pkekyo| | german WW2 tanks are sexy :p |
| 17:35.36 | Pkekyo| | is watching SPR |
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| 17:35.59 | thul | Pkekyo|: augdal? :-D |
| 17:36.00 | thul | haha |
| 17:36.02 | thul | that is my old seargant |
| 17:36.30 | Pkekyo| | it is? |
| 17:36.40 | Pkekyo| | nordlending? |
| 17:36.46 | thul | I think so |
| 17:36.51 | Pkekyo| | bwahah, awesome |
| 17:37.01 | thul | if it is the right augdal then, I guess it is a common name up there:P |
| 17:37.05 | thul | he was my seargant in kirkenes |
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| 17:37.17 | Pkekyo| | cool |
| 17:37.26 | Pkekyo| | bought some comm stuff off him a couple of weeks ago |
| 17:37.30 | ikon- | do you have to restart wow after every time you modify your code? |
| 17:37.42 | Industrial | not if you dont add new files |
| 17:37.44 | haste | ikon-: only if there's new files |
| 17:37.47 | Industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.51 | Pkekyo| | thul: know his first name? |
| 17:37.52 | thul | Pkekyo|: cool :-) |
| 17:37.59 | thul | Pkekyo|: hmm.. we just used last names :/ |
| 17:38.10 | Pkekyo| | figures :p |
| 17:38.48 | Pkekyo| | could be though, he's very much so ex-army |
| 17:38.49 | Pkekyo| | afaik |
| 17:38.55 | evl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxlhvgaXj2Q |
| 17:38.56 | evl | rofl |
| 17:39.15 | Pkekyo| | lmao evl |
| 17:39.18 | Pkekyo| | that's sick |
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| 17:39.42 | Industrial | wtb x64 flash plugin that works |
| 17:39.48 | Industrial | T_T |
| 17:39.57 | Pkekyo| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.13 | NivFreak | yea =/ |
| 17:40.27 | Pkekyo| | plugin for what, exactly? |
| 17:40.31 | NivFreak | Industrial: have you tried nspluginwrapper? |
| 17:40.37 | Industrial | nay |
| 17:40.44 | NivFreak | it works alright |
| 17:40.45 | Industrial | Pkekyo|: firefox. |
| 17:40.46 | NivFreak | not perfect |
| 17:40.47 | Industrial | ok |
| 17:40.50 | Pkekyo| | oh |
| 17:40.57 | Pkekyo| | firesux sux :p |
| 17:41.04 | Industrial | how so |
| 17:41.06 | erzy | Need an AddOn, which remind me to reapply Shouts, maybe if I can do Victory Rush? any idea |
| 17:41.15 | Industrial | if you are about to recommend opera, don't. |
| 17:41.18 | Pkekyo| | :P |
| 17:41.27 | evl | Mmmm OSX |
| 17:41.28 | Pkekyo| | I prefer it by far...all I'm gonna say on the matter |
| 17:41.29 | evl | Mmmm Safari |
| 17:41.32 | evl | Mmmm shit that works out of the box |
| 17:41.50 | Industrial | firefox works fine out of the box? |
| 17:41.54 | Diskmaster | waits for xfce4-svn to finish churning |
| 17:42.08 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: JWU just upgraded SKG for me, now I'm "forced" to switch :) |
| 17:42.19 | evl | Industrial: no, OSX with Safari does :) |
| 17:42.30 | Pkekyo| | so...anyone know a reliable way to run Adobe CS 2.0 on GNU/Linux? :P |
| 17:42.46 | haste | qemu :p ? |
| 17:42.47 | Industrial | reliable? probably never |
| 17:42.47 | Diskmaster | wine-1.0-rc2? :O |
| 17:42.52 | NivFreak | evl: ZOMGBuffs |
| 17:42.58 | NivFreak | erzy: even |
| 17:43.03 | evl | http://i29.tinypic.com/xqkf9c.jpg |
| 17:43.06 | evl | HAHA |
| 17:43.06 | Pkekyo| | Diskmaster: emulating it has been tried, utterly shite and unreliable as a triplecunted hooker |
| 17:43.30 | NivFreak | Pkekyo|: vmware? :P |
| 17:43.35 | Diskmaster | Pkekyo|, sorry, I don't have an expensive software product to test emulate on. :O |
| 17:43.58 | evl | "unreliable as a triplecunted hooker" |
| 17:44.00 | Pkekyo| | NivFreak: negative |
| 17:44.01 | erzy | NivFreak: huh? |
| 17:44.07 | Diskmaster | Also, I need to quote that |
| 17:44.08 | Pkekyo| | I say again, unreliable as a triplecunted hooker |
| 17:44.09 | evl | mind if I ask what your point of reference there is? |
| 17:44.21 | Pkekyo| | evl: regarding what? the unreliability, or the hooker? |
| 17:44.22 | NivFreak | erzy: use ZOMGBuffs |
| 17:44.23 | digmouse | ~seen xinhuan |
| 17:44.27 | purl | xinhuan is currently on #wowhead #norganna #wowuidev #wowace #wowwiki. Has said a total of 82 messages. Is idling for 14h 12m 2s, last said: 'hi'. |
| 17:44.43 | evl | Did you Mr. Pkekyo| have sexual intercourse with that triplecunted hooker |
| 17:44.54 | Pkekyo| | ...uhm...no? :p |
| 17:45.05 | evl | I have to remind you that you are under oath Mr. Pkekyo| |
| 17:45.16 | Pkekyo| | wait, what? |
| 17:45.21 | Xinhuan | hi? |
| 17:45.27 | Pkekyo| | hai Xinhuan |
| 17:46.11 | Pkekyo| | evl: just figured that with three cunts, she isn't much likely to stick with your one cock, is she? :p |
| 17:46.21 | durcyn | speaking of off-topic. |
| 17:46.28 | *** join/#wowace Surfer52 (n=javachat@cpe-74-71-143-65.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 17:46.28 | Surfer52 | Visit http://www.FakeMagazineCover.com (upload pic make mag) - http://www.SillyWebcam.com (play with webcam online) - http://www.Is-A-Jerk.com (insulter/anon email) - http://www.ComedySearchEngine.com (fun) - http://www.BodySwitcher.com (put your face on funny body) - http://www.MedChecker.com (health) - http://www.Canuckster.com (Canada eh) - http://www.Nerdful.com (geeks) |
| 17:46.39 | Diskmaster | (This user was banned for this post.) |
| 17:46.40 | Pkekyo| | wtf |
| 17:46.59 | Toadkiller | wow that was a fast ban! |
| 17:47.11 | Pkekyo| | the day I can get adobe's products on GNU\Linux I'm switching over instantly o.O' |
| 17:47.39 | Diskmaster | checks the wine apphqdb |
| 17:48.21 | Pkekyo| | s/products/products -reliably-/ |
| 17:48.26 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: Adobe did release products for *nix but it turns out the only people using *nix were freeloaders so there was no money in it whatsoever. So dunn be holding your breth |
| 17:49.14 | Vonhinten | lol |
| 17:49.30 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: I'm not...but the adobe suite is a must-have for me...would buy it in a split second if it came for *nix...so I'd finally be able to rid myself of MS for...a long time ahead |
| 17:50.47 | Toadkiller | Pkekyo|: railing about MS makes no sense. They provide a defacto standard. Ithink there is a website where u can go rail though... |
| 17:51.42 | Dashkal | key word there is defacto. They are the standard because they are the standard. Doesn't mean we have to accept it. |
| 17:52.02 | Pkekyo| | rail? |
| 17:52.09 | Toadkiller | Yes but if u want to code and reach the masses u just use their platform. |
| 17:52.30 | Dashkal | develops on Linux for the masses. |
| 17:52.32 | Dashkal | Yay java |
| 17:52.33 | Pkekyo| | yeah, I know...monopolizing ftw, eh? |
| 17:52.45 | Toadkiller | lol the masses are using MS tho... |
| 17:52.49 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 17:53.16 | Pkekyo| | if only *nix had been easier from the get-go, I'd bet MS wouldn't have the same marketshare they do now |
| 17:53.29 | Pkekyo| | maybe just a mere fraction of it...who knows *shrug* |
| 17:53.40 | Toadkiller | Linux is not bad for running your web server. It just sucks ass as an OS from most user points of view |
| 17:53.42 | Dashkal | Eh, if that's all it takes Mac would have a larger market share |
| 17:54.03 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: price is an issue as well...Mac has never been that good on competative prices |
| 17:54.09 | Dashkal | Very true |
| 17:54.34 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: I agree it should be alot more plug'n play, aye...if it had been from the start, I doubt windows would be even slightly important these days |
| 17:54.38 | Toadkiller | Hardware costs are so low now though that Mac is making progress |
| 17:54.38 | dylanm | The prices are competitive for what you're getting. |
| 17:54.43 | Dashkal | I use linux as a desktop OS because I think windows is too restrictive... You can bet what I think of mac... |
| 17:54.44 | dylanm | They just don't sell trash. |
| 17:54.56 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: true, but I really don't fancy popping 5k extra just for shiny white plastic :) |
| 17:55.13 | Toadkiller | 5k? wth are u buying? |
| 17:55.23 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: exaggurated to make a point |
| 17:56.01 | Dashkal | heh, I remember when they really were 4-5k each |
| 17:56.04 | Pkekyo| | dylanm: when I build my towers myself, the components come out costing me hell of a lot less than a Mac with the same specs, granted, I'd get Mac OSX as well, but imo it doesn't make up for the price difference |
| 17:56.08 | Dashkal | Back when PowerPC was new |
| 17:56.19 | Pkekyo| | not saying Macs are -bad-, just that they're not a realistic alternative for myself |
| 17:56.28 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: not dollars [localized currency ftw] |
| 17:56.37 | Toadkiller | You cant exagerate $ to disprove a point about the narrowing differences. Most macs are within $100s of dollars now, not $1000s of the competition |
| 17:56.45 | Dashkal | I'm talking canadian dollars (they were worth about 0.66 USD at the time) |
| 17:56.57 | Toadkiller | Anyway I stopped being a mac zealot in the 90's |
| 17:57.28 | Pkekyo| | 5k in real monies = ~1k USD |
| 17:57.29 | Dashkal | I just hate mac because it's wrong for me. I have quite a few family members I'd happily give a mac and walk away from. |
| 17:57.42 | Toadkiller | As a *nix box the mac is really nice |
| 17:58.59 | Pkekyo| | Toadkiller: sorry 'bout the misunderstanding, but I speak in real monies :p |
| 17:59.11 | kenlyric | build an identically powered laptop from dell cost the same price as a macbook pro |
| 17:59.20 | Dashkal | Pkekyo|: Define "real monies" :p |
| 17:59.29 | Pkekyo| | NOK :) |
| 17:59.33 | Toadkiller | Well mac is all about design. MS is all about business. Their ecosystem is just so much more superior than anyone elses that way. |
| 17:59.44 | Dashkal | 1:5, gotcha |
| 18:00.03 | Pkekyo| | and yes, I agree that the Mac laptops has been getting ALOT better than the competition lately [speaking of packages, despite price differences] |
| 18:00.14 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: 5,323 something methinks, but either way :p |
| 18:00.24 | Dashkal | Google: 1 Canadian dollar = 5.05543759 Norwegian kroner |
| 18:00.41 | Dashkal | CAD is about equal to USD atm |
| 18:00.47 | Dashkal | _slightly_ above as of right now |
| 18:01.03 | Pkekyo| | wish I'd gotten my job earlier, would've been ebaying my arse off now that the USD's so low :P |
| 18:01.13 | Dashkal | So it looks like you're undervaluing macs. I'd pay 200 bucks for a mac :p |
| 18:01.20 | Pkekyo| | not too long ago it used to be 10+ NOK |
| 18:01.43 | Dashkal | erm |
| 18:01.46 | Dashkal | ~fail dashkal |
| 18:01.47 | purl | dashkal: FAIL! |
| 18:01.49 | Dashkal | learn to math |
| 18:02.28 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: also have to take into account that norwegian price levels are fairly high |
| 18:02.46 | Dashkal | Doing the math right, 800 sounds about on par for a mac |
| 18:02.49 | Pkekyo| | we've got extra expenses and taxes coming out our arses |
| 18:02.59 | Pkekyo| | 800 CD? |
| 18:03.05 | Dashkal | ish, yeah |
| 18:03.08 | Dashkal | lemme go look |
| 18:03.10 | Pkekyo| | what kind of mac? |
| 18:03.31 | Dashkal | the good ones are 1200 |
| 18:03.50 | evl | I got a macbook pro with 4gb ram and full specs now, best comp I've had eve |
| 18:03.53 | Dashkal | can spend up to 2,800 CAD on a Mac Pro |
| 18:03.55 | evl | stable as a rock |
| 18:03.57 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: check macbook pro prices |
| 18:04.08 | Dashkal | 2,000 CAD |
| 18:04.13 | Dashkal | http://store.apple.com/ca |
| 18:04.17 | Dashkal | Not cheap |
| 18:04.31 | Dashkal | prefers franken-puter |
| 18:04.34 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 18:04.47 | Dashkal | Buy parts and dual boot xp/ubuntu |
| 18:04.51 | Pkekyo| | sec, checking norwegian prices |
| 18:05.27 | Pkekyo| | MacBook Pro starts at 15.5k NOK |
| 18:05.39 | Dashkal | cheaper there then |
| 18:05.40 | Pkekyo| | lua print> 15500/3 |
| 18:05.41 | evl | mine as 20k NOK i think |
| 18:05.47 | evl | fully specced |
| 18:05.54 | evl | but -tax so it ain't that bad |
| 18:05.56 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: the cheapest one...estimates to ~3k CAD |
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| 18:06.28 | Pkekyo| | so no, not cheaper here :p |
| 18:06.30 | Dashkal | lua> 15500/5 |
| 18:06.31 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 3100 |
| 18:06.42 | Dashkal | yeah, total fail at math in my head atm |
| 18:06.45 | Pkekyo| | xD |
| 18:06.49 | Dashkal | I blame Crysis |
| 18:06.52 | Dashkal | finished it last night |
| 18:06.56 | Pkekyo| | oh, you don't have to use 'print'? |
| 18:07.02 | Pkekyo| | first half of the game is pure win :) |
| 18:07.04 | Pkekyo| | second half is poop |
| 18:07.05 | Pkekyo| | :< |
| 18:07.07 | Dashkal | agreed |
| 18:07.19 | Pkekyo| | extremely pretty and appealing poop, but still poop |
| 18:07.23 | Dashkal | I was not impressed. No interest in picking up the sequel. |
| 18:07.50 | Dashkal | But then I won't have that option, they're talking about going console-only to avoid piracy, and I have no interest in the 360 or the ps3 |
| 18:07.52 | Pkekyo| | I'm hoping it'll just be a 'spiritual sequel', like Crysis was to FarCry |
| 18:08.14 | Pkekyo| | that doesn't work for shit...people just port the crap to PC either way |
| 18:08.30 | Dashkal | console->pc ports have a spotty history. Halo 2? |
| 18:09.29 | Dashkal | When they develop for both it works fine enough, but pure porting makes me cringe. All that code written with the expectation of specific harware suddenly tossed at the chaos that is PC gaming. |
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| 18:12.11 | Pkekyo| | the halo 2 port worked fine for me eventually |
| 18:12.23 | Pkekyo| | but the RE4 port wouldn't work for shit without a bloody wiimote :p |
| 18:13.17 | Dashkal | But what annoyed me most about the game's latter half was the strange prey-like difficulty. Going fine, going fine, going fine, *SPLAT* quickload, repeat. |
| 18:13.30 | Dashkal | Or the poorly written physics code... that was really getting to me |
| 18:13.35 | Pkekyo| | yeah |
| 18:13.38 | Dashkal | things would merge and spaz |
| 18:14.23 | Dashkal | It wasn't so much that it was _hard_ as it was chaotic. |
| 18:15.14 | Pkekyo| | yeah, spent most of halo 2, running, gunning and panicing with my adrenaline constantly pumping :p |
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| 18:15.48 | Dashkal | That doesn't bother me so much :p It's the do de do de do *oneshot*. *blink* wtf? Oh! He comes from that direction. *load and face that way* |
| 18:16.14 | Pkekyo| | it didn't bother me, it was just...too much at times |
| 18:16.29 | Pkekyo| | couldn't get up and take a dump for the latter half of the game :p |
| 18:16.33 | Dashkal | fair enough. Cure for that is just putting the game down for a couple hours :p |
| 18:16.46 | evl | What's a good totem timer for a raiding shaman |
| 18:16.49 | evl | Like for twisting etc. |
| 18:16.52 | evl | I'm not a shaman :P |
| 18:16.53 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: I don't work that way :p |
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| 18:17.15 | durcyn | evl: /castsequence [reset=8] Grace of Air Totem, Windfury Totem ? |
| 18:17.56 | evl | and you acn just hammer that? :P |
| 18:18.23 | durcyn | basically |
| 18:18.34 | Pkekyo| | any idea why my mousebindings (bartender) won't work? (button 3 through 5) |
| 18:19.34 | Pkekyo| | and ding :) |
| 18:20.05 | durcyn | evl: you might want to put the windfury first if you're going to just mash it though, it'd give the weapon buff, then drop agi, then start over 8 seconds later |
| 18:20.51 | evl | thans a bunch :) |
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| 18:23.31 | CIA-42 | 03gagorian * r75374 10DrDamage/Caster.lua: |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-42 | DrDamage: |
| 18:23.31 | CIA-42 | - Fixed some cases of damage modifiers like naturalist applying to healing since r73856 |
| 18:24.26 | AckisWork | durcyn: can you use cast sequences and target= in the same macro? Asking because I'm thinking about doing a renew my entire party macro |
| 18:25.21 | durcyn | AckisWork: only once. |
| 18:26.13 | AckisWork | so something like /castsequence [reset=7.5] [target=party1] Renew [target=party2] Renew etc wouldn't work? |
| 18:26.22 | durcyn | in my experience, no |
| 18:26.26 | durcyn | everything would to go party1 |
| 18:27.13 | AckisWork | ahh too bad |
| 18:27.13 | dylanm | AckisWork: It is possible, though. It's especially easy if cog|work's MacroSequence or whatever it was called is still operational. |
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| 18:27.39 | AckisWork | That's where you have 1 macro do a click on a button that has another macro? |
| 18:28.02 | durcyn | i thought that was protected now |
| 18:28.23 | durcyn | well, RunMacro obviously, but calling its Click handler might actually work |
| 18:29.20 | dylanm | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7911-MacroSequence.html |
| 18:29.21 | Pkekyo| | I hate dying when there's less than one second left on the healing potion cooldown >.< |
| 18:29.27 | Pkekyo| | nevcairiel: dingalindgingdong |
| 18:29.36 | Pkekyo| | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 18:29.40 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowprogramming #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge. Has said a total of 295 messages. Is idling for 1h 22m 16s, last said: 'maybe its only SV though'. |
| 18:29.51 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 18:30.00 | Pkekyo| | Pkekyo|any idea why my mousebindings (bartender) won't work? (button 3 through 5) |
| 18:30.08 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 18:30.24 | Pkekyo| | cries in the corner |
| 18:30.40 | Pkekyo| | keep dying 'cause my healing keybinds doesn't work : |
| 18:30.41 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 18:31.39 | AckisWork | I thought you die because you're bad? |
| 18:31.40 | dylanm | AckisWork: It just plays around with states. It's all kosher as far as I know. |
| 18:32.07 | dylanm | The source is pretty educational. |
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| 18:32.24 | AckisWork | I'll take a look at it thanks :) |
| 18:32.27 | Pkekyo| | AckisWork: no, no, that's you |
| 18:32.30 | DARKGuy | Hm, is it essential that most of our guild members have at least LibThreat installed? |
| 18:32.43 | DARKGuy | For avoiding unneeded wipes? :P |
| 18:32.44 | dylanm | DARKGuy: Yes. |
| 18:32.50 | Pkekyo| | duh :p |
| 18:32.57 | Pkekyo| | even I knew that, and I'm a complete tool ;> |
| 18:32.57 | DARKGuy | xD thanks ^^ |
| 18:33.01 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 18:33.12 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: why do healers need it? :P |
| 18:33.37 | Pkekyo| | 'cause they're even more of a tool than me? :p |
| 18:33.37 | AckisWork | Oh look, I'm healing too much and may pull threat. I'll stop healing. |
| 18:33.39 | Lukian | Ackis, have you seen how much threat some healers output? :D |
| 18:33.43 | DARKGuy | yeah I know, I'm just talking to my GM about it and he doesn't really like the idea of adding LibThreat to the essential addons list (but he wants Atlas+Atlasloot for avoiding ninja-ing -.-) |
| 18:33.44 | AckisWork | Oh look, the tank died |
| 18:33.45 | Pkekyo| | tool-o-rama 2008 |
| 18:33.56 | AckisWork | ~lart Pkekyo| |
| 18:33.56 | purl | drops a humongous exploding nuke on Pkekyo| |
| 18:33.56 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: lol - overheal = threat = wipe :( |
| 18:34.05 | dylanm | DARKGuy: Incredible priorities, there. |
| 18:34.06 | Pkekyo| | ~whalecrit AckisWork |
| 18:34.07 | purl | ACTION crits AckisWork with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. AckisWork dies |
| 18:34.07 | AckisWork | Overhealing doesn't generate threat |
| 18:34.07 | Lukian | DARKGuy, why do you need Atlas? |
| 18:34.12 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:34.22 | DARKGuy | Lukian: yeah good question =_= |
| 18:34.23 | Pkekyo| | you just can't beat a whalecrit :> |
| 18:34.31 | AckisWork | I can land a 10k crit heal on someone at 100% health and I generate 0 threat |
| 18:34.35 | DARKGuy | dylanm: yeah, I'm trying to "correct" them ¬¬; |
| 18:35.42 | AckisWork | Lukian: my point was that as a healer you really can't stop healing in the game otherwise someone will die |
| 18:35.51 | Lukian | AckisWork, hehe :) |
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| 18:37.27 | ikon- | can someone tell me why my onenable print isnt working? |
| 18:37.29 | ikon- | http://ace.pastey.net/88563 |
| 18:39.05 | CIA-42 | 03philosound 07Sorata * r75375 10Buffalo3/Base/Totem.lua: |
| 18:39.05 | CIA-42 | Buffalo3 (Sorata): |
| 18:39.05 | CIA-42 | - just a little aura typo |
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| 18:40.59 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75376 10RBM_Sunwell/ (Felmyst.lua Kalecgos.lua locales/enUS.lua): RBM_Sunwell: Fix Kalecgos nil bug if you wipe to him once. Updated Felmyst to new syncing settings checking, added a few new settings and shit. |
| 18:41.59 | DARKGuy | ikon-: shouldn't it be NewAddon on line 5? |
| 18:42.18 | DARKGuy | I have it in my addon like "Magnet = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("Magnet", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0")" |
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| 18:45.10 | ikon- | I used NewAddon at first, but that wasn't working either. |
| 18:45.57 | Apoco | shieldb: ping |
| 18:47.04 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy 07DARKGuy * r75377 10Magnet/: Removed file/folder |
| 18:47.13 | ckknight | ikon-: you need to specify your addon's name as the first argument. |
| 18:47.45 | CIA-42 | 03DARKGuy 07DARKGuy * r75378 10Magnet/: |
| 18:47.45 | CIA-42 | Magnet: |
| 18:47.45 | CIA-42 | * Updating my branch, onwards to adding party/solo/raid configuration methods |
| 18:48.27 | ikon- | ok.. i changed it.. but i still dont see the print |
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| 19:00.33 | evl | http://thismight.be/offensive/uploads/2008/05/28/image/234771_%5Brmx%5D%20car%20accident.jpg |
| 19:00.34 | evl | hahah |
| 19:01.00 | Vonhinten | LOL |
| 19:02.57 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 19:05.14 | CIA-42 | 03xinhuan * r75379 10WoWEquip/ (WoWEquip.lua localization.lua): WoWEquip: - Minor changes for localization |
| 19:13.14 | Zyndrome | http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/A+Walk+In+The+Woods/ ... what .. the hell |
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| 19:17.43 | Dashkal | Weebls is ... odd |
| 19:18.49 | CIA-42 | 03evenue * r75380 10TradeskillInfo/TradeskillData.lua: |
| 19:18.49 | CIA-42 | TradeskillInfo: |
| 19:18.49 | CIA-42 | - Added three missing patterns |
| 19:18.49 | CIA-42 | - Adjusted various others |
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| 19:27.51 | Pkekyo| | what talent should I pick first from the ret tree? 2nd tier |
| 19:31.11 | Zyndrome | Imp Judgement |
| 19:31.29 | Zyndrome | http://www.retpaladin.com/warcraft/pve-talent-buildspecs/ |
| 19:31.44 | Zyndrome | another page on Retri : http://retlol.mrgummage.com/ |
| 19:32.18 | Pkekyo| | can't be arsed to read up, just gonna nub my way to 70 :) |
| 19:33.50 | Ozguli | eeh wtf, they removed the /console pitchlimit command |
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| 19:35.28 | AckisWork | what's the api to get a units target? |
| 19:37.17 | Wikwocket | you mean UnitTarget? |
| 19:37.44 | AckisWork | that may be it, no entry on wowwiki for it however |
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| 19:38.33 | cladhaire | there is no UnitTarget function |
| 19:38.37 | cladhaire | the unit's target is |
| 19:38.39 | cladhaire | "unittarget" |
| 19:38.40 | Wikwocket | hrm yes, my bad |
| 19:38.43 | cladhaire | i.e. "party2target" |
| 19:39.19 | Josh_Borke | function UnitTarget(unit) return unit.."target" end |
| 19:39.20 | Josh_Borke | HA! |
| 19:39.50 | Wikwocket | nice |
| 19:40.05 | AckisWork | oh so saying foo = "pary1target" will put the mob name of whoever party1 is targetting? |
| 19:40.19 | Wikwocket | you'd need UnitName("party1target") |
| 19:40.41 | AckisWork | alrighty I think I'm getting this then |
| 19:40.49 | AckisWork | God help us all :P |
| 19:40.57 | Josh_Borke | no, no, using my function you'd need: UnitName(UnitTarget("party1")) |
| 19:41.13 | cladhaire | AckisWork: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types the "unitId" pseudo type may help there. |
| 19:41.15 | Aiiane | lol Josh |
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| 19:42.10 | AckisWork | I've only dealt with units really in macros, wasn't sure how to convert that knowledge into lua code |
| 19:42.25 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 19:42.44 | AckisWork | which I think I may understand now, I'll probably ask for a code review if I commit |
| 19:42.48 | Josh_Borke | *stabby* *stabby* |
| 19:44.09 | NeoTron | :se noai |
| 19:44.09 | NeoTron | a:se ai |
| 19:44.13 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75382 10GridIndicatorCornerPlus/GridIndicatorCornerPlus.lua: |
| 19:44.13 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorCornerPlus: |
| 19:44.13 | CIA-42 | - Changed to Pastamancer's SetIndicator format |
| 19:44.16 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75381 10GridIndicatorCornerIcons/GridIndicatorCornerIcons.lua: |
| 19:44.16 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorCornerIcons: |
| 19:44.16 | CIA-42 | - Changed to Pastamancer's SetIndicator format |
| 19:44.30 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75383 10GridIndicatorCornerText/GridIndicatorCornerText.lua: |
| 19:44.30 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorCornerText: |
| 19:44.30 | CIA-42 | - Changed to Pastamancer's SetIndicator format |
| 19:44.40 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75384 10GridIndicatorSideIcons/GridIndicatorSideIcons.lua: |
| 19:44.40 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorSideIcons: |
| 19:44.40 | CIA-42 | - Changed to Pastamancer's SetIndicator format |
| 19:44.43 | durcyn | ~lart NeoTron |
| 19:44.43 | purl | strangles NeoTron with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 19:44.51 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75385 10GridIndicatorText3/GridIndicatorText3.lua: |
| 19:44.51 | CIA-42 | GridIndicatorText3: |
| 19:44.51 | CIA-42 | - Changed to Pastamancer's SetIndicator format |
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| 19:44.56 | Josh_Borke | seriously? |
| 19:44.56 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 19:44.59 | Josh_Borke | one file per commit? |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75386 10GridManaBars/GridManaBar.lua: |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-42 | GridManaBars: |
| 19:45.00 | CIA-42 | - Changed to Pastamancer's SetIndicator format |
| 19:45.03 | Josh_Borke | ~emulate Josh_Borke |
| 19:45.05 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 19:45.08 | Snago | What is whitetooth doing? :S |
| 19:45.09 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75387 10GridSideIndicators/GridSideIndicators.lua: |
| 19:45.09 | CIA-42 | GridSideIndicators: |
| 19:45.09 | CIA-42 | - Changed to Pastamancer's SetIndicator format |
| 19:45.16 | Fisker- | GO FOR IT |
| 19:45.18 | Fisker- | DO IT!!! |
| 19:45.36 | durcyn | he's about to be learning the hard way about 'svn co -N' |
| 19:45.39 | Fisker- | ~emulate durcyn |
| 19:45.41 | durcyn | Whitetooth1: pokepokepokepoke |
| 19:46.28 | Whitetooth1 | I changed the API but I also updated the modules, to make sure nothing broke. but Pastamancer didn't like it so he changed it back but didn't change all the modules too |
| 19:46.59 | durcyn | Whitetooth1: if you do svn co -N http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk then put your GridStatusFoo checkouts inside it, you can commit them all at once |
| 19:47.09 | pastamancer | The API change wasn't backwards-compatible. |
| 19:47.18 | pastamancer | That's why I changed it back. |
| 19:48.18 | Whitetooth1 | I know, but adding arguments to the end is also not backwards compatible, becuase the modules that hook it needs to add the new arguments also |
| 19:48.21 | Cheads_ | hmm no fubar and no bigwigs icon on minimap... when I type /bw menu minimapattach I get this message: "Big Wigs: option /bw menu minimapattach is disabled" eh? |
| 19:48.29 | pastamancer | Also, I try to avoid passing tables. It prevents accidentally changing the data. |
| 19:48.54 | AckisWork | lua> foo = false;print(foo);foo=1234;if foo then print(foo) end |
| 19:48.54 | lua_bot | AckisWork: false, 1234 |
| 19:49.04 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: anything that hooks/replaced GridFrameClass should have ... at the end of the arguments and should pass that to self.super.foo |
| 19:49.07 | Whitetooth1 | So I thought why not just pass tables it would make it backwards compatible for future changes |
| 19:49.38 | Whitetooth1 | Yep, thats why I changed all the modules, added the new arguments to the end |
| 19:50.12 | pastamancer | I saw what you were thinking with the change |
| 19:52.09 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: http://ace.pastey.net/88566 that would be the prefered way to do it |
| 19:53.05 | Josh_Borke | if you are going to change someone ELSE's addon and that someone else is still around, you should branch and get permission before comitting it |
| 19:53.07 | Whitetooth1 | you are right |
| 19:53.11 | Snago | Also, http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#Do_not_commit_to_Addons_that_aren.27t_yours should've talked to the author before |
| 19:53.29 | Snago | It's in the rules that you've signed :P |
| 19:54.05 | Whitetooth1 | sorry, I apologize |
| 19:54.46 | CIA-42 | 03maqjav * r75388 10Omen/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Omen: Added esES locale files |
| 19:56.35 | pastamancer | Bugfixes and translations are usually cool (they need to be tested before committing). Changing the functionality and/or api, you should definitely talk with the author |
| 19:58.58 | Whitetooth1 | I understand, will do. |
| 20:00.56 | grimman | Oohoo, nap == wake up with some seriously neat ideas! :D |
| 20:01.10 | pastamancer | The changes to grid looked good for the most part, so I didn't roll-back. I'll take a closer look at them later. |
| 20:02.57 | grimman | pastamancer: I asked earlier when you weren't around, and the answer seemed to be negative... but; any way to populate Grid with fake units? |
| 20:03.26 | pastamancer | grimman: nope |
| 20:03.44 | pastamancer | grimman: do you just need to know how big grid will be with X number of people in your raid? |
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| 20:03.52 | grimman | Pretty much. |
| 20:04.25 | pastamancer | it's a low priority on my todo list |
| 20:04.48 | pastamancer | but eventually you'll be able to run something like /grid simulate 5x5 |
| 20:04.56 | grimman | I don't raid often enough for it to be an issue anyway. :P |
| 20:05.02 | pastamancer | and grid will resize the background to fill that much space |
| 20:05.37 | pastamancer | personally, I keep grid centered vertically on the left side of my character and have it grow to the left |
| 20:06.01 | grimman | Yeah, that's the strange thing. At one point today it actually did have the background the right size for the full grid (5x8). |
| 20:06.29 | pastamancer | that would be you in a raid with the layout set to 40man and 5 people in at least one group |
| 20:06.40 | CIA-42 | 03zhinjio * r75389 10/branches/SKG/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:06.40 | CIA-42 | SKG : |
| 20:06.40 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.40 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:06.47 | Whitetooth1 | I have a bug fix to commit to Grid, and almost finished with a new module GridCooldownText |
| 20:07.20 | grimman | Hmhm... perhaps. |
| 20:07.34 | grimman | I wish I could remember stuff like that. :P |
| 20:07.37 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: did you see the IconText in GridFrame? Make that work rather than create a new module. I want 2-3 characters on the icon and the cooldown overlay to work. |
| 20:08.34 | afKulaar | ~skg |
| 20:09.10 | Whitetooth1 | I did, but I couldn't think of anything useful I could do with it so I left it out for now |
| 20:09.34 | CIA-42 | 03zhinjio * r75390 10SKG/ (13 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:09.34 | CIA-42 | SKG : |
| 20:09.34 | CIA-42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.01 | Zhinjio | whats the syntax for teaching purl about something |
| 20:10.02 | pastamancer | I was planning to use it to show debuff count (for Burn) and/or debuff duration (for Kalecgos). |
| 20:10.15 | pastamancer | Zhinjio: purl: foo is bar |
| 20:10.21 | Zhinjio | k, thx |
| 20:11.01 | Zhinjio | purl: skg is Suicide Kings Geo, a non-dkp based loot distribution plugin. For more information, see the wiki at http://skg.trippy.org/wiki/. |
| 20:11.01 | purl | okay, Zhinjio |
| 20:11.10 | Zhinjio | ~skg |
| 20:11.10 | purl | well, skg is Suicide Kings Geo, a non-dkp based loot distribution plugin. For more information, see the wiki at http://skg.trippy.org/wiki/. |
| 20:11.24 | Zhinjio | woot. |
| 20:11.31 | Zhinjio | purl is so smart. |
| 20:11.45 | Whitetooth1 | I made the debuff count show on the bottom right side so it would be similar to blizzards way, and for the debuff duration I made it a module GridCooldownText |
| 20:12.19 | Whitetooth1 | so that the debuff duration and the debuff count can be seen at the same time |
| 20:12.25 | pastamancer | Are there any debuffs that you need to see both at the same time? |
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| 20:12.54 | Whitetooth1 | not currently, prob meteor slash |
| 20:13.04 | NeoTron | I hope this totally unsubstantiated rumor is true - soul shard stacking in wotlk. likely just the usual "wish it did" |
| 20:14.27 | pastamancer | I thought people only watched burn on Brutallus |
| 20:14.38 | NeoTron | still doesn't understand the purpose of soul shards. |
| 20:14.52 | NeoTron | or rather what purpose they have today other than being an incredibly annoying mechanic |
| 20:15.03 | Whitetooth1 | yeah, I only added Burn duration to GridStatusRaidDebuff |
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| 20:15.24 | NeoTron | Whitetooth1: duration is good |
| 20:15.26 | pastamancer | I'm not sure there's enough room for the duration and the stack count as text. |
| 20:15.32 | Whitetooth1 | and Kelec Curse, Illidan bugs |
| 20:15.57 | Whitetooth1 | its actually preety good, let me get a screenshot |
| 20:17.52 | durcyn | NeoTron: I'd rather deal with soul shards than be a mage. |
| 20:18.05 | Xinhuan | lol why |
| 20:18.14 | Xinhuan | mage is fun, inventory management is not |
| 20:18.44 | durcyn | you mock because you wish you had life tap, fie! |
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| 20:19.38 | Xinhuan | why would i want lifetap, when i have mana gems (3 charges!!! soulcharge isn't even that good), evocation and then at last resort, mana pots? |
| 20:19.56 | Xinhuan | soulshards* |
| 20:23.12 | Whitetooth1 | Ppastamancer: http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9380/demonh8.jpg |
| 20:23.58 | NeoTron | durcyn: I don't mind a reagent |
| 20:24.14 | NeoTron | just don't want to have a non-stacking, forced farmed one |
| 20:24.17 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75391 10KalecgosHealth/: KalecgosHealth: Initial commit |
| 20:24.19 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: can you show me what it looks like with a default profile? |
| 20:24.32 | NeoTron | also there's no point in having damage spells use shards |
| 20:24.53 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: also, with a couple of corners lit-up |
| 20:25.22 | Whitetooth1 | sure, brb |
| 20:26.02 | NeoTron | Heck even making Shadowburn have zero shard cast but return a shard like it does today would be useful. soul fire as a spell is pointless but even more so due to the cost |
| 20:26.11 | NeoTron | and summoning pets should not use shards, just reagents |
| 20:26.22 | NeoTron | keep shards for soul stones (makes a lot of sense) and summons and I'd be happy |
| 20:32.06 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75392 10KalecgosHealth/ (KalecgosHealth.lua KalecgosHealth.toc): |
| 20:32.06 | CIA-42 | KalecgosHealth: |
| 20:32.06 | CIA-42 | - Add files |
| 20:32.06 | CIA-42 | - Entire add-on dry-coded, needs testing but should work. |
| 20:32.19 | Dashkal | +1 |
| 20:32.27 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:32.29 | Xinhuan | typo fix |
| 20:32.32 | AckisWork | this is different |
| 20:32.38 | AckisWork | I wrote something from scratch at work |
| 20:32.39 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:32.47 | Whitetooth1 | pastamancer: http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/3845/demo2vp6.jpg |
| 20:33.07 | Xinhuan | what does it do? |
| 20:33.21 | AckisWork | adds Kalecgos/Sath health percentages |
| 20:33.35 | Xinhuan | clearly not good enough, since it doesn't show the human kalecgos's health |
| 20:33.40 | NeoTron | AckisWork: "adds" where? |
| 20:33.51 | NeoTron | just some display? |
| 20:33.55 | AckisWork | A little pop-up window like the najentus one |
| 20:34.00 | NeoTron | nice |
| 20:34.12 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: Meanie :( support my code |
| 20:34.18 | NeoTron | I have this addon where I try to show bars for people on the inside and outside with debuff timers |
| 20:34.28 | Xinhuan | i assume it'll need syncing? |
| 20:34.32 | NeoTron | and it's bugging like crap. not quite sure if it's LibBars that's breaking or the scanning |
| 20:34.40 | AckisWork | I used the Najentus one and Kalecgos Portals as a template/copied code from it, need to see if it works |
| 20:34.55 | NeoTron | one thing I noticed though was that bars bug out - like my MagicTargets bars are being shown as timer bars etc |
| 20:34.57 | Xinhuan | kalecgosportals doesn't even work for me |
| 20:34.59 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: no just scans peoples targets and updates when it gets both their targets |
| 20:35.07 | Xinhuan | the moment i installed it, Bigwigs totally broke |
| 20:35.26 | NeoTron | AckisWork: you don't see targets from peopme on the other side |
| 20:35.37 | NeoTron | you need syncing to make it work |
| 20:35.46 | AckisWork | well then that would be a problem... |
| 20:35.47 | NeoTron | MagicTargets already does the "raid target scanning" and it doesn't work |
| 20:35.57 | AckisWork | but I learnt something from it at least |
| 20:36.05 | AckisWork | i guess I'll have to do syncing :P |
| 20:36.05 | durcyn | range is an issue, you have to use comms for boss health |
| 20:36.09 | Xinhuan | wow you've been kiling kalecgos for 2 months without knowing that? |
| 20:36.18 | AckisWork | I'm a healer, do you think I pay attention? |
| 20:36.18 | Xinhuan | /boggle |
| 20:36.29 | durcyn | ~whalenuke AckisWork |
| 20:36.30 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around AckisWork with his mind powers. |
| 20:36.41 | AckisWork | I look at raid frames, if their alpha is lower I know they're in the portal if I'm up top :P |
| 20:36.46 | Xinhuan | yes, a healer generally pays more attention than a 1-button dpser ;p |
| 20:36.57 | AckisWork | not to boss health/what people target |
| 20:37.45 | Xinhuan | you've got some learning to do ;p |
| 20:38.01 | AckisWork | really?!? :P |
| 20:38.05 | Xinhuan | good healers sometimes put each other on focus target so they can see who each other heals to avoid overlapping heals! |
| 20:38.24 | Xinhuan | this of course requires their healing clickcasting macros to include /target in it |
| 20:38.27 | AckisWork | good healers do their jobs and don't need a secondary person to heal their target :P |
| 20:38.50 | Xinhuan | that's the whole point, if healer A puts B on focus, and A sees B is healing Z, then A won't heal Z |
| 20:38.59 | Toadkiller | Toadkiller jsut puts hots on anything that moves and lets the boss sort them out |
| 20:39.00 | AckisWork | that's what healcomm is for |
| 20:39.14 | Lywellyn | ~lart AckisWork |
| 20:39.14 | purl | teaches AckisWork the basics, including how to RTM |
| 20:39.17 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: ping |
| 20:39.18 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75393 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: |
| 20:39.19 | CIA-42 | Grid: |
| 20:39.19 | CIA-42 | - Fix for IconStackText not always showing |
| 20:39.19 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 20:39.22 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:39.27 | AckisWork | ~RTM |
| 20:39.28 | purl | rumour has it, rtm is a clean version of rtfm. It stands for Read the Manual... without the other unnecessary word... |
| 20:39.40 | AckisWork | Purl, you didn't fail me! |
| 20:39.40 | Lywellyn | hahaha |
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| 20:39.55 | durcyn | purl, RTM is also Release To Manufacture |
| 20:39.55 | purl | okay, durcyn |
| 20:40.30 | Xinhuan | ~dict RTM |
| 20:40.40 | Xinhuan | ~dict 3 RTM |
| 20:41.00 | Lywellyn | whoa |
| 20:41.01 | Toadkiller | purl, AutoBar is also Multi-bar mod that automatically adds potions, water, food, quest and other items you specify into buttons for easy use. |
| 20:41.02 | purl | okay, Toadkiller |
| 20:41.30 | Toadkiller | purl, AutoBar is also Does not use action slots |
| 20:41.30 | purl | okay, Toadkiller |
| 20:41.37 | Toadkiller | ~AutoBar |
| 20:41.38 | purl | autobar is probably AutoBar Multi-bar mod that automatically adds potions, water, food, quest and other items you specify into buttons for easy use.. Does not use action slots |
| 20:41.46 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 20:41.52 | Xinhuan | " autobar is probably AutoBar " |
| 20:42.05 | Lywellyn | I think that's still what I added before XD |
| 20:42.15 | Lywellyn | I simply told purl that "autobar is autobar" :p |
| 20:42.15 | Xinhuan | ~rtm |
| 20:42.16 | purl | rtm is probably a clean version of rtfm. It stands for Read the Manual... without the other unnecessary word.... Release To Manufacture |
| 20:42.21 | Toadkiller | purl, no AutoBar is also Multi-bar mod that automatically adds potions, water, food, quest and other items you specify into buttons for easy use. |
| 20:42.21 | purl | okay, Toadkiller |
| 20:42.28 | Toadkiller | purl, AutoBar is also Does not use action slots |
| 20:42.29 | purl | okay, Toadkiller |
| 20:42.33 | Toadkiller | ~AutoBar |
| 20:42.34 | purl | i guess autobar is AutoBar Multi-bar mod that automatically adds potions, water, food, quest and other items you specify into buttons for easy use.. Does not use action slots Multi-bar mod that automatically adds potions, water, food, quest and other items you specify into buttons for easy use.. Does not use action slots |
| 20:42.39 | Lywellyn | ROFL |
| 20:42.43 | Xinhuan | i think you just got owned |
| 20:42.44 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 20:42.45 | Toadkiller | bitch ass bot |
| 20:43.09 | Lywellyn | purl, no Autobar is a Multi-bar mod that automatically adds potions, water, food, quest and other items you specify into buttons for easy use, and does not use action slots. |
| 20:43.10 | purl | Lywellyn: okay |
| 20:43.10 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75394 10KalecgosHealth/KalecgosHealth.lua: |
| 20:43.10 | CIA-42 | KalecgosHealth: |
| 20:43.10 | CIA-42 | - Typo fix :P |
| 20:43.15 | Lywellyn | ~autobar |
| 20:43.16 | purl | i heard autobar is a Multi-bar mod that automatically adds potions, water, food, quest and other items you specify into buttons for easy use, and does not use action slots. |
| 20:43.19 | Lywellyn | owned. |
| 20:43.31 | Lywellyn | ~emulate Ackis |
| 20:43.32 | purl | Typo fix. |
| 20:43.41 | Toadkiller | purl loves Lywellyn more QQ |
| 20:43.42 | Snago | You know you can message purl, right? |
| 20:43.57 | AckisWork | ~purl |
| 20:43.57 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 20:44.01 | Lywellyn | yeah, so? in this case, I was teaching ;) |
| 20:44.07 | Toadkiller | oh to keep it privare? |
| 20:44.21 | Xinhuan | ~purr |
| 20:44.21 | purl | ACTION *purrs purrs purrs* |
| 20:44.24 | Lywellyn | you can message purl the same way you type in here, so that it doesn't "flood" the chatroom. |
| 20:44.25 | Toadkiller | I am a purl noob. all I know about purl I learned today and yesterday |
| 20:45.01 | Toadkiller | whats the emote command? |
| 20:45.14 | Xinhuan | /me emotes |
| 20:45.50 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: fix this mod called Kalecgos health, it doesn't work! :P |
| 20:45.59 | Toadkiller | shifts into bear form and starts swinging wildly |
| 20:46.04 | Toadkiller | kool tx |
| 20:46.09 | Xinhuan | i rarely fix something i don't use ;p |
| 20:46.10 | Lywellyn | ~lart Toadkiller |
| 20:46.10 | purl | squeezes Toadkiller till Toadkiller turns blue like papa smurf |
| 20:46.18 | AckisWork | damnit |
| 20:46.27 | AckisWork | start using AckisRecipeList and KalecgosHealth kk |
| 20:46.39 | AckisWork | (PS: no one has used KalecgosHealth) |
| 20:46.41 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:46.44 | Xinhuan | i installed ARL |
| 20:46.50 | Xinhuan | but i disabled it 30 minutes after installation |
| 20:46.54 | AckisWork | :( |
| 20:46.55 | Lywellyn | ~ARL |
| 20:46.56 | purl | i guess arl is a poorly named add-on, 95% dry-coded developed by Ackis. Will tell you what recipes/beast skills you're missing however. |
| 20:46.56 | Xinhuan | because it told me i have every recipe |
| 20:46.59 | Xinhuan | and every enchant |
| 20:47.00 | NivFreak | so I was trying to figure out a way to define a set of people, and monitor them for fear status |
| 20:47.06 | NivFreak | is there any addons I can use to do that? |
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| 20:47.49 | Lywellyn | Xinhuan: Then doesn't that mean ARL worked? Or are you missing some and ARL didn't report it? |
| 20:47.56 | Xinhuan | it worked |
| 20:47.57 | AckisWork | he has them all |
| 20:48.02 | Xinhuan | but since i have *every* recipe |
| 20:48.06 | AckisWork | so no point in enabling it |
| 20:48.07 | Xinhuan | i didn't see the need to keep the addon around |
| 20:48.23 | Lywellyn | maybe for *that* character. :p |
| 20:48.23 | Xinhuan | makes sense? ;p |
| 20:48.28 | Xinhuan | i only have 1 char |
| 20:48.38 | Xinhuan | it has 545 days /played on it |
| 20:48.39 | AckisWork | I would love your code perfectionism critique on it however if you find yourself really bored one day |
| 20:48.48 | Lywellyn | Someone inject Xinhuan with altitis. |
| 20:48.52 | Toadkiller | Make the mod work, drop something and relevel it or pick up something new imo |
| 20:49.10 | Xinhuan | you could look at DBM code to see how they do it |
| 20:49.34 | AckisWork | nah I have ideas now already on how to do it w/ syncing |
| 20:49.48 | Xinhuan | its relatively simple, but annoying to implement, get what i mean? |
| 20:49.49 | AckisWork | I'd rather learn this one myself with some help from IRC |
| 20:49.55 | AckisWork | aye |
| 20:50.23 | Xinhuan | what will be useful is also to sync the human kalecgos's health |
| 20:50.32 | Xinhuan | on top of the 2 beatable bosses |
| 20:51.09 | Xinhuan | on that note, you probably should delete that kalecgoshealth on svn first ;p |
| 20:51.17 | AckisWork | yah I didn't think of that in initial implementation, but your comment raised an eyebrow |
| 20:51.46 | AckisWork | it took me 30 minutes to figure out the command lines to get the damn thing checked in :P |
| 20:52.06 | Pkekyo| | "...which brings up another problem. What if Klaus is gay? Klaus doesn't want Rebecca's love, he wants Wilhelm's love!" |
| 20:52.25 | Xinhuan | ackis, i have a question for you |
| 20:52.31 | AckisWork | sure |
| 20:52.41 | Xinhuan | when you bring a raid of 25 to kalecgos, do you leave other people on standby in groups 6/7/8? |
| 20:52.58 | Xinhuan | or do you kick all of them |
| 20:53.03 | AckisWork | depends on the day |
| 20:53.18 | AckisWork | most of the time we've been kicking them because of Dogtag issues and lagging pitbull for some users |
| 20:53.22 | Xinhuan | see, there's this theory floating around that if you kick the extras from the raid, there won't be delayed portals |
| 20:53.48 | Xinhuan | meaning it seems that kalecgos has a chance to pick the people in 6/7/8 for portals, but they aren't in the instance, so nothing happens |
| 20:53.54 | Xinhuan | and portal spawn gets delayed |
| 20:54.05 | Gnarfoz | sooo |
| 20:54.08 | AckisWork | we've only had delayed portals once |
| 20:54.08 | Xinhuan | i've tried it kicking 6/7/8, and got no delayed portals |
| 20:54.13 | Gnarfoz | who broke Parrot AND Afflicted2? o_O |
| 20:54.15 | AckisWork | hmmm I'll mention that |
| 20:54.33 | Xinhuan | this theory is floating around on wow R&D forums as well as EJ forums |
| 20:54.40 | Xinhuan | and it seems to work |
| 20:54.48 | AckisWork | hmmm |
| 20:54.52 | profalbert | Parrot broken? |
| 20:55.06 | Gnarfoz | dunno, it simply sat there and did nothing for me just now |
| 20:55.16 | Xinhuan | its somewhat "similar" to shahraz perhaps |
| 20:55.20 | Gnarfoz | I'm currently logged out to see if there's updates, and to see if relogging helps :> |
| 20:55.23 | Xinhuan | he can teleport up to 3 people |
| 20:55.26 | AckisWork | could be, wouldn't suprise me actually |
| 20:55.32 | Xinhuan | but he sometimes only teleports 1 or 2 |
| 20:55.44 | Xinhuan | and the theory is that the more totems you put down, the higher chance only 1 or 2 gets ported |
| 20:55.53 | Xinhuan | as totems seem to be targattable by shahraz |
| 20:56.00 | Xinhuan | but can't actually get ported |
| 20:56.01 | Antiarc | snakes in snake traps are |
| 20:56.06 | Antiarc | We use them to cheese shahraz :P |
| 20:56.12 | Xinhuan | lol serious? |
| 20:56.15 | Antiarc | yes |
| 20:56.26 | Antiarc | Just have a hunter keep snake traps under her and most of her ports end up being 1 or 2 people |
| 20:56.32 | Xinhuan | the snakes only last 15 secs anyway? |
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| 20:56.37 | AckisWork | lol |
| 20:56.37 | Xinhuan | or less? |
| 20:57.23 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, you haven't given me a report on your taunt investigation |
| 20:57.26 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 20:57.30 | Antiarc | I haven't gotten to it yet :( |
| 20:57.32 | profalbert | gnarfoz: hmm, i'm running the current versoin and it works just fine |
| 20:57.40 | Antiarc | I'm working against a June 1 deadline |
| 20:57.50 | Antiarc | So I'm rather WoW-deprived right now :P |
| 20:58.03 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: I'll just log back in, it was... weird |
| 20:58.40 | NeoTron | Antiarc: dpsers pulling aggro at 90% of the MT suffers with you :P |
| 20:58.50 | profalbert | theres something weird about the combat_log_event-listener i think |
| 20:59.45 | Xinhuan | what's weird? |
| 20:59.57 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: dunno, it sat there (I could open the options) but nothing on my screen. config mode worked normally. weird thing is: afflicted2 (which is not an ace addon at all, so no interactions likely) didn't eithr |
| 21:00.23 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: we never have more than 5 groups in the raid |
| 21:00.39 | Xinhuan | so NeoTron, do you get delayed portals? |
| 21:00.55 | profalbert | I copied profiles in parrot today and the listener didn't register properly, didn't have time to investigate yet |
| 21:00.57 | NeoTron | on occasion |
| 21:01.06 | NeoTron | once the first group to enter was out by the time the 2nd portal spawned |
| 21:01.30 | CIA-42 | 03kemayo * r75395 10InstanceMaps/browse.lua: InstanceMaps: Give the dropdown a label to make it fit in. |
| 21:01.30 | Xinhuan | there's another theory that pets could be targetted, or simply that it got resisted |
| 21:01.58 | Xinhuan | but the resist one is debunked i think, by guilds that use arcane resist for kalecgos |
| 21:02.51 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: that's too cluttered when it's a square frame. The stack count in the bottom-right corner won't make it into GridFrame, but I'd appreciate it if you got IconText working in GridFrame and used that instead of writing a GridCooldownText indicator |
| 21:03.54 | CIA-42 | 03saroz * r75396 10KalecgosHealth/KalecgosHealth.lua: KalecgosHealth: Make sure Kalecgos is the dragon, not the friendly NPC |
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| 21:04.11 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 21:04.27 | Saroz | Ackis, make that shit sync, or it's useles |
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| 21:04.43 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 21:04.46 | AckisWork | lmao |
| 21:04.49 | AckisWork | Hi Saroz |
| 21:04.52 | Saroz | :) |
| 21:05.03 | Funkeh` | still no flash patch? |
| 21:05.04 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 21:05.07 | Funkeh` | whatever |
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| 21:05.16 | Vulcanus | don't visit dodgy sites then |
| 21:05.37 | Vulcanus | theres a hotfix for it I believe, from MS |
| 21:05.48 | Xinhuan | flash patch? |
| 21:06.01 | Funkeh` | Vulcanus, yeah ofc, i'm paranoid because I'M going to visit dodgy sites... |
| 21:06.04 | AckisWork | Saroz: when I wrote it today I didn't realize you couldn't see the other target, but I'll add syncing in the next day or so |
| 21:06.11 | Zyndrome | NoScript and BlockSite puts an end to naughty sites |
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| 21:06.13 | Saroz | it's easy, so gogo |
| 21:06.19 | Vulcanus | hehe |
| 21:06.26 | AckisWork | Saroz: I've never done it before, so I need to learn how... |
| 21:06.29 | Funkeh` | Zyndrome, and does your family all use noscript? |
| 21:06.32 | Saroz | :Sync() |
| 21:06.33 | Xinhuan | what's the deal with flash patch? |
| 21:06.35 | Vulcanus | the hotfix is for XP SP3 and it's on WU |
| 21:06.42 | Zyndrome | they should :D |
| 21:06.50 | Funkeh` | my point, made |
| 21:06.57 | Saroz | Antiarc, you got one week before I do kalec again :) |
| 21:07.22 | Zyndrome | I have to reformat my brothers computer like every second day cause of his skyhigh level of stupidity |
| 21:07.22 | Vulcanus | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923789 |
| 21:07.23 | Saroz | Ackis, even |
| 21:07.27 | Chompers | you killed him Saroz? |
| 21:07.30 | Saroz | yeye |
| 21:07.34 | Chompers | guild first? |
| 21:07.41 | Saroz | no |
| 21:07.43 | AckisWork | lol |
| 21:07.43 | Saroz | weeks ago |
| 21:07.46 | Vulcanus | http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=93208e57-5f14-4fb2-bc0c-2c4f3c56274a&displaylang=en <-- fix |
| 21:07.50 | Chompers | man, i must've missed it |
| 21:07.54 | Saroz | shoot |
| 21:07.55 | Chompers | :< |
| 21:08.12 | AckisWork | reads API |
| 21:08.12 | Funkeh` | november 2006 |
| 21:08.14 | Funkeh` | eh? |
| 21:08.31 | ramoz | eh |
| 21:08.37 | Vulcanus | Date Published:5/13/2008 |
| 21:08.37 | ramoz | says may 15 2008 here |
| 21:09.21 | Whitetooth1 | pastamancer: I see. The GridCooldownText is not an indicator though. Its just a FontString that overlays on the IconCD frame that starts counting when it detects f.IconCD.SetCooldown. It uses OnUpdate so I thought it could be separate. |
| 21:09.29 | Saroz | Ackis, it's simple though, use :Sync() and update on syncs |
| 21:10.15 | Saroz | Ackis, http://dev.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua good example there |
| 21:10.35 | Funkeh` | trust the numpty to link to dev |
| 21:10.40 | Saroz | dev is win |
| 21:10.42 | Saroz | he has access |
| 21:10.50 | Saroz | whats teh problem? |
| 21:11.00 | Funkeh` | typing takes effort |
| 21:11.01 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: ah, I see. In GridStatusKalecgos, I have the scheduled event in the status module |
| 21:11.06 | Aens|Superiority | Saroz: is it possible to add an auto tiling option to sraid? I normally leave it sorted by class, but on fights like felmyst, its required to switch it to group/aphabetical. Doing so, leaves gaps in the layout and out of order. |
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| 21:11.22 | Saroz | Aens|Superiority, on teh list |
| 21:11.27 | Aens|Superiority | ah, cool. |
| 21:11.30 | Saroz | Auto frame snapping |
| 21:11.52 | phyber | stabs the taint logger |
| 21:11.53 | Pkekyo| | is the color grey or gray? |
| 21:11.54 | phyber | so useless. |
| 21:12.19 | Xinhuan | call it 30% black |
| 21:12.19 | Aens|Superiority | Saroz: i was forced to install grid just for that one fight. vv sad |
| 21:12.24 | Saroz | WHA |
| 21:12.26 | Saroz | why?! |
| 21:12.53 | phyber | blames taint on random addons, it seems. |
| 21:13.08 | phyber | 5/28 22:02:21.531 Global variable classFileName tainted by SpamSentry - Interface\FrameXML\FriendsFrame.lua:582 |
| 21:13.10 | pastamancer | taints phyber |
| 21:13.12 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: damn you! :p |
| 21:13.16 | phyber | I can't see what SpamSentry is doing to cause that though :/ |
| 21:13.19 | NivFreak | touch my taint |
| 21:13.25 | phyber | touches |
| 21:13.27 | Pkekyo| | touches it. It feels nice. |
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| 21:13.40 | leech2k | Is there a prat replacement? |
| 21:13.48 | Pkekyo| | Chatter |
| 21:13.55 | leech2k | Pkekyo|: thx |
| 21:14.19 | Pkekyo| | pleasure |
| 21:14.20 | Whitetooth1 | pastamancer: yeah, I coded it because I thought GridStatusKalecgos was good so I tried to generalize it for Burn and stuff |
| 21:14.23 | AckisWork | Saroz: self:Sync() or self:BigWigs_SendSync() ? |
| 21:14.29 | Saroz | sendsync |
| 21:14.30 | Pkekyo| | not sure it offers quite the same though, just started using it myself |
| 21:14.58 | CIA-42 | 03kemayo * r75397 10LibSimpleFrame-1.0/LibSimpleFrame-1.0/LibSimpleFrame-1.0.lua: LibSimpleFrame-1.0: If the font is taller than the line height, adjust the line height so it all fits in. |
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| 21:15.07 | leech2k | Pkekyo|: Happen to know who wrote chatter? |
| 21:15.44 | Saroz | AckisWork, and register BigWigs_RecvSync, etc etc, simple |
| 21:15.49 | Pkekyo| | ~chatter |
| 21:15.50 | purl | methinks chatter is a lightweight chat enhancement addon by Antiarc. More info at http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=12738.0 |
| 21:15.59 | Pkekyo| | I'm gonna go with Antiarc :p |
| 21:15.59 | leech2k | Very nice. |
| 21:16.26 | Pkekyo| | yes, yes I am ;> |
| 21:17.11 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: I'm not even sure what I'll use IconCD for since you can't get the actual debuff duration on other units |
| 21:18.02 | Whitetooth1 | yeah, unless you already know the duration, thats how I did it |
| 21:18.04 | Kemayo | Oh snap, PT3 shows raid-boss Kael loot on Magister's Terrace Kael. |
| 21:18.55 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:18.55 | Xinhuan | yet another reason why pt3 sucks ;p |
| 21:19.08 | NivFreak | tier5 chests from heroic mrt go! |
| 21:19.19 | Xinhuan | i can't really think of a way to fix that one hehe |
| 21:19.23 | pastamancer | right, that's how I did it too for kalecgos... I did have it working locally with buffs. So you could see how much time is left on BoP or something like that. |
| 21:19.30 | Whitetooth1 | pastamancer: Its like integrating part of the bossmods into GridStatusRaidDebuff |
| 21:19.35 | NeoTron | I love shadow priests that thing they are so leet because they have crafted/kara gear |
| 21:19.43 | Xinhuan | how does pt3 differentiate between heroic and non heroic versions? |
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| 21:19.56 | pastamancer | Whitetooth1: is GridStatusRaidDebuff yours? |
| 21:20.09 | Whitetooth1 | nope :( |
| 21:20.14 | pastamancer | ah, ok |
| 21:20.24 | NivFreak | NeoTron: shadow priest are one of the hardest class/spec combos to find good players in imo |
| 21:20.26 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: They're in different sets -- InstanceLoot vs InstanceLootHeroic |
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| 21:20.57 | Xinhuan | good luck ;p |
| 21:21.19 | Xinhuan | maybe the normal non-raid boss kael is in another entry |
| 21:22.12 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I know when I see one that's using spell hit/dmg gems (with >6% spell hit) and spell dmg/stamian gems |
| 21:22.15 | Kemayo | The thing is, they're two sets anyway. |
| 21:22.16 | NeoTron | that it's probably a good idea to pass |
| 21:22.27 | NivFreak | hahaa |
| 21:22.33 | NivFreak | hit gems on a spriest |
| 21:22.40 | NeoTron | hit gems is fine if you need it |
| 21:22.43 | Kemayo | Raid boss Kael is "InstanceLoot.The Eye.Kael'thas Sunstrider" and MT Kael is "InstanceLoot.Magisters' Terrace.Kael'thas Sunstrider" |
| 21:22.45 | NivFreak | why the fuck would you need it |
| 21:22.48 | NeoTron | but at that level you should have 10% from talents |
| 21:22.54 | NivFreak | my scrub alt priest has a set that is WAY over hit cap |
| 21:23.07 | NivFreak | 76 hit + talents == a joke |
| 21:23.19 | NivFreak | and it's not worth gemming to drop talent points |
| 21:23.21 | Xinhuan | so, is there a way to get your InstanceMaps without the loot included? |
| 21:23.22 | NeoTron | righ |
| 21:23.28 | NeoTron | I know :) |
| 21:23.38 | NeoTron | we've seen good kara / crafted lefel SP apps |
| 21:23.42 | NeoTron | this is NOT one of them |
| 21:23.46 | NivFreak | I mean seriously, I have a mix of kara/heroic/arena gear |
| 21:23.50 | NivFreak | on my alt shadow priest |
| 21:23.53 | NivFreak | a couple of badge items |
| 21:23.59 | NivFreak | and I'm at > 1K dmg |
| 21:24.03 | NivFreak | ~110 hit |
| 21:24.04 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: If you deleted the PT3 embed and loot.lua it would work perfectly and not complain at you. |
| 21:24.06 | NivFreak | 50 haste |
| 21:24.14 | NivFreak | and I think I still have a couple blues too |
| 21:24.19 | Xinhuan | becausei already use atlasloot which is far superior in my opinion |
| 21:24.23 | leech2k | Does the haste mess with your rotations? |
| 21:24.34 | NivFreak | spriests have no real rotations :) |
| 21:24.40 | NivFreak | and haste is awesome for spriests |
| 21:24.43 | Kemayo | Xinhuan: I was never able to get comfortable with atlasloot. I like this approach more. |
| 21:24.53 | Xinhuan | yeah |
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| 21:25.11 | Xinhuan | i just find atlasloot more useful as it provides more information, more than just loot from bosses |
| 21:25.32 | Xinhuan | such as arena sets |
| 21:25.33 | durcyn | trash drops are slowly being added to PT, it's conceivable to add a 'trash' icon per instance |
| 21:25.48 | Xinhuan | and trash drops |
| 21:26.04 | Xinhuan | some instances, the trash drops page on atlasloot can span 2-3 pages |
| 21:26.06 | hypetech | AtlasLoot is a memory hog though >.> |
| 21:26.08 | Xinhuan | because there are that many trash drops |
| 21:26.23 | NivFreak | eh? like where? |
| 21:26.24 | Pkekyo| | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/128320993454987500dudewaitw.jpg |
| 21:26.30 | Xinhuan | sunwell trash drop patterns there's aboutr 30+ of them |
| 21:26.34 | NivFreak | ah, wow |
| 21:26.43 | NivFreak | I forgot about patterns |
| 21:26.49 | Xinhuan | definitely not something you can fit in a tooltip |
| 21:26.57 | NivFreak | are the patterns like SSC/TK, they can drop from trash and bosses? |
| 21:27.02 | Xinhuan | just trash |
| 21:27.05 | Xinhuan | not bosses |
| 21:27.06 | NivFreak | k |
| 21:27.28 | Arrowmaster | some bosses count as trash thougy |
| 21:27.28 | NeoTron | does the trash drop rate increase post-felmyst? |
| 21:27.33 | NeoTron | because the drop rates suck :-/ |
| 21:27.37 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 21:27.45 | Xinhuan | in fact drop rates drop |
| 21:27.52 | Xinhuan | because the gauntlet doesn't drop trash drops |
| 21:28.06 | CIA-42 | 03Udorn * r75398 10MonkeyQuestHelper/ (. MonkeyQuestHelper.lua MonkeyQuestHelper.toc): MonkeyQuestHelper: handle the absence of MonkeyQuest or QuestHelper |
| 21:28.34 | Vonhinten | They need to up the drop rate |
| 21:29.30 | NeoTron | http://www.wowjutsu.com/us/kilrogg/Adrenaline <-- whee, ashes of alar insignia noted :P |
| 21:29.41 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: post-twins? |
| 21:29.50 | Xinhuan | my guild's not that far |
| 21:29.57 | Xinhuan | just killed brutallus last week |
| 21:30.06 | Xinhuan | but my guild's the 14th to do so on my server |
| 21:30.18 | Xinhuan | 8 already killed felmyst |
| 21:30.30 | Xinhuan | and 6 killed twins already or something |
| 21:30.36 | durcyn | actually, the twins gauntlet, particularly the commanders, can drop all kinds of fun stuff |
| 21:30.43 | leech2k | hmm bartender4? |
| 21:30.45 | Xinhuan | so information is relatively free flowing |
| 21:30.54 | NivFreak | leech2k: don't do ti! |
| 21:30.55 | NivFreak | it |
| 21:30.59 | leech2k | Serious? |
| 21:31.03 | durcyn | my personal favorite is when the first commander drops a sunmote, then despawns before group loot finishes, causing the item to disappear =( |
| 21:31.09 | Xinhuan | on the whole of alliance side, there's only 1 sunwell robe pattern drop so far |
| 21:31.15 | NivFreak | well, it was very unfinished last I tried it ;) |
| 21:31.16 | Xinhuan | sunfire robes i think its called |
| 21:31.23 | Xinhuan | that's how rarethat shit is |
| 21:31.34 | Xinhuan | even with 8 alliance guilds in sunwell having killed brutallus |
| 21:31.36 | leech2k | NivFreak: kk thanks, I will hold off a bit longer |
| 21:31.39 | NivFreak | durcyn: I hate forced despawns |
| 21:31.40 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75399 10KalecgosHealth/KalecgosHealth.lua: |
| 21:31.40 | CIA-42 | KalecgosHealth: |
| 21:31.40 | CIA-42 | - Lets attempt to sync healths thanks |
| 21:31.44 | Xinhuan | and about 12 can kill kalecgos |
| 21:31.53 | durcyn | we've lost 3 sunmotes so far that way |
| 21:31.53 | digmouse | xinhuan: is there any report of WoWEquip errors on non-english client before? |
| 21:31.55 | NivFreak | durcyn: I hate that if you wipe in hyjalm, the loot vanishes |
| 21:31.58 | durcyn | just -pewf- |
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| 21:32.05 | NivFreak | same stupid concept |
| 21:32.10 | NivFreak | but worse in sunwell |
| 21:32.16 | leech2k | is there any sort of download count per mod? |
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| 21:32.21 | Xinhuan | digmouse, a few, but there's little i can do because i dont run a non-enUS client |
| 21:32.22 | Hjalte | Does anyone know, if it's possible to create a simple black background that you can look through with kgpanels? |
| 21:32.43 | AckisWork | Xinhuan, Saroz: It should sync I hope |
| 21:32.46 | durcyn | Hjalte: uh, alpha? |
| 21:32.52 | Xinhuan | where i can fix, it will be fixes by deduction ;p |
| 21:33.21 | Xinhuan | AckisWork, our sync method is just having the tanks call out the % while taunting ;p |
| 21:33.30 | digmouse | xinhuan: this is what I got: WoWEquip.lua:2541: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value) |
| 21:33.33 | AckisWork | :P |
| 21:34.29 | Xinhuan | digmouse, sounds like a setsize detection scanning error |
| 21:34.34 | Xinhuan | what client are u using |
| 21:34.39 | digmouse | zhCN |
| 21:34.52 | Xinhuan | that would explain it |
| 21:35.08 | digmouse | I'm working on resolving it with a guy called "icemoon" :p |
| 21:35.20 | Xinhuan | in enUS, there is a line of text in items with sets that says something like |
| 21:35.35 | Xinhuan | "Set name (6/8)" |
| 21:35.51 | Xinhuan | indicating the name of the set, and you are wearing 6 out of 8 pieces of the set |
| 21:36.01 | Xinhuan | what does that line look like in zhCN? |
| 21:36.09 | digmouse | like "Gladiator's Pursuit 2/5"? |
| 21:36.13 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 21:36.16 | digmouse | let me see |
| 21:36.59 | digmouse | almost the same, does anyone care if I post the Chinese string here? |
| 21:37.04 | Xinhuan | if you want |
| 21:37.06 | Xinhuan | i can read chinese |
| 21:37.18 | digmouse | ½Ç¶·Ê¿µÄÁÔ×°£¨2/5£© |
| 21:37.27 | Xinhuan | ok except that isn't in utf8 ;p |
| 21:37.35 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't display properly |
| 21:37.42 | Xinhuan | in irc |
| 21:37.43 | digmouse | almost the same, the commas are in utf8 |
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| 21:37.54 | Xinhuan | it just displays as gibberish to me |
| 21:38.00 | Xinhuan | its not pasted in utf8 |
| 21:38.01 | digmouse | set mIRC to UTF8 then :D |
| 21:38.16 | Xinhuan | its already in utf8 |
| 21:38.31 | Arrowmaster | you need to set yours to encode in utf8 |
| 21:38.36 | Xinhuan | ^ |
| 21:38.40 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt by default |
| 21:38.48 | digmouse | I'll check mine |
| 21:38.54 | Arrowmaster | its in the fonts options |
| 21:39.12 | Arrowmaster | set utf8 to display and encode |
| 21:39.19 | DARKGuy | is now playing: Nyhm - Ni Hao, a Gold Farmer's Story |
| 21:39.28 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75400 10KalecgosHealth/KalecgosHealth.lua: |
| 21:39.28 | CIA-42 | KalecgosHealth: |
| 21:39.28 | CIA-42 | - Add friendly Kalecgos to tracker |
| 21:39.28 | CIA-42 | - Set initial text to be unknown until sync occurs |
| 21:39.58 | AckisWork | If this code actually works I'll be surprised |
| 21:41.00 | Arrowmaster | once its set to encode in utf8 you can do stuff like this |
| 21:41.01 | Arrowmaster | âââââââââ·â¶ |
| 21:41.12 | digmouse | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.19 | Xinhuan | can see it now |
| 21:41.26 | digmouse | yup |
| 21:41.47 | Xinhuan | hmm, seems like the ( ) isn't the default ones |
| 21:41.53 | digmouse | right |
| 21:41.57 | Xinhuan | and there's no space before the ( |
| 21:42.01 | digmouse | it's in asian character |
| 21:42.03 | Xinhuan | go to zhCN localization file |
| 21:42.12 | digmouse | I opened it |
| 21:42.13 | Xinhuan | do you see a line |
| 21:42.14 | Xinhuan | WOW_EQUIP_ITEM_SET_NAME_R= "(.*) %(%d/(%d)%)" |
| 21:42.15 | Arrowmaster | its the doublewide () |
| 21:42.21 | Xinhuan | line 1214 |
| 21:42.25 | digmouse | seen it |
| 21:42.34 | Xinhuan | change it |
| 21:42.35 | Xinhuan | to |
| 21:43.00 | Xinhuan | actually i don't think string.match works on utf8 strings |
| 21:43.00 | Xinhuan | T_T |
| 21:43.41 | Xinhuan | so that's problematic |
| 21:43.48 | Arrowmaster | "(.*)ï¼%d/(%dï¼" |
| 21:43.51 | digmouse | uh |
| 21:43.52 | Arrowmaster | it should work |
| 21:44.05 | Arrowmaster | er wait |
| 21:44.08 | Xinhuan | "(.*)ï¼%d/(%d)ï¼" |
| 21:44.14 | Arrowmaster | yah |
| 21:44.19 | Xinhuan | i want it to capture the set name and the set size |
| 21:44.32 | Xinhuan | but i'm not sure if string.match will work with the utf8 wide brackets |
| 21:44.37 | Arrowmaster | it will |
| 21:44.48 | Arrowmaster | it will consider it how ever many characters it is |
| 21:44.54 | digmouse | I'll try and see what happens |
| 21:44.57 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("è§æ士ççè£
ï¼2/5ï¼", "(.*)ï¼%d/(%dï¼") |
| 21:44.57 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: unfinished capture |
| 21:45.07 | Xinhuan | lua> string.match("è§æ士ççè£
ï¼2/5ï¼", "(.*)ï¼%d/(%d)ï¼") |
| 21:45.08 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: è§æ士ççè£
, 5 |
| 21:45.12 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.len("ï¼" |
| 21:45.12 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 21:45.15 | Xinhuan | ok beautiful |
| 21:45.16 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.len("ï¼") |
| 21:45.16 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 3 |
| 21:46.14 | Xinhuan | i think the zhTW one needs the same fix too digmouse, so go ahead ;p |
| 21:46.29 | digmouse | I'll do them soon :D |
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| 21:47.35 | Diao | o-o |
| 21:49.09 | CIA-42 | 03saroz * r75401 10KalecgosHealth/KalecgosHealth.lua: KalecgosHealth: Some drycoded tweaks and cleanups |
| 21:49.38 | phyber | http://ace.pastey.net/88574 |
| 21:49.43 | phyber | is this WhoLib tainting things? |
| 21:49.43 | Xinhuan | oh yeah, anyone has any 4 horseman post-2.4 combat logs? |
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| 21:50.17 | Xinhuan | hard to say phyber |
| 21:50.24 | Xinhuan | FriendsFrame.lua reads some globals |
| 21:50.32 | Xinhuan | because blizzard code forgot to declare them local |
| 21:50.35 | Xinhuan | in the functions |
| 21:50.56 | Xinhuan | and these variables names are very common words too |
| 21:51.12 | phyber | ah :/ |
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| 21:51.47 | Xinhuan | by common words, i mean variables named like "guild", "name" and such |
| 21:52.56 | Xinhuan | its probably tracable with taintLog 2 |
| 21:54.00 | NeoTron | wtb blizzard code audit! |
| 21:54.26 | Arrowmaster | or just run luac -p on FriendsFrame.lua and WhoLib |
| 21:54.34 | phyber | taintLog 2 logs more than taintLog 1 then? cool |
| 21:54.46 | AckisWork | I hate that they called it taint |
| 21:54.48 | Xinhuan | taintLog 2 records every execution taint |
| 21:55.07 | Xinhuan | this means it records about 10 taints per frame from stuff running OnUpdates |
| 21:55.17 | Xinhuan | or about 100-200 mb per hour |
| 21:55.24 | Xinhuan | and causes significant slowdown to your system |
| 21:55.24 | phyber | oh, It logged a ton more after I reloaded UI now. cool |
| 21:55.51 | phyber | lots of garbage. woo |
| 21:55.54 | Xinhuan | however neither taintLog 1/2 records taints from overwriting a variable that isn't in _G |
| 21:55.55 | phyber | 5/28 22:55:02.796 Global variable Automaton_Ding tainted by Automaton - Interface\AddOns\Automaton\modules\Ding.lua:2 |
| 21:55.57 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: what would luac -p do? |
| 21:55.58 | phyber | :| |
| 21:56.13 | Arrowmaster | tell you all the getglobals and setglobals |
| 21:56.14 | Xinhuan | this means if Blizzard has a table say, called RaidClassColors |
| 21:56.25 | Xinhuan | and you taint RaidClassColors.Shaman |
| 21:56.29 | Xinhuan | that is not recorded at all |
| 21:56.42 | Xinhuan | even though RaidClassColors.Mage is not tainted |
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| 21:56.52 | Arrowmaster | er luac -l |
| 21:56.56 | NeoTron | ah ok |
| 21:56.59 | Xinhuan | only taints done to _G[] table is recorded |
| 21:57.02 | Arrowmaster | i just woke up |
| 21:57.06 | Xinhuan | this is why debugging is so difficult |
| 21:57.12 | AckisWork | luac -p just checks for syntax right? |
| 21:57.15 | Arrowmaster | yah |
| 21:57.43 | AckisWork | ok, I used the right one today for KalecgosHealth :P |
| 21:58.08 | NeoTron | where is the wow-friendly lua binary again? |
| 21:59.05 | ckknight | NeoTron: sourceforge |
| 21:59.09 | digmouse | hmmm, "Interface\AddOns\WoWEquip\WoWEquip.lua:539: unfinished capture", think I missed something, checking if I need to add a space |
| 21:59.29 | Xinhuan | you missed a closing ) |
| 21:59.33 | Xinhuan | its (%d) |
| 21:59.52 | Arrowmaster | http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-wow |
| 21:59.54 | digmouse | ahhhhh |
| 22:00.09 | Xinhuan | technically it should be (%d+) but we've so far assumed set sizes won't be larger than 9 |
| 22:00.10 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 22:00.52 | digmouse | ('s and )'s always make me confused when looking into string.match/fing, etc. |
| 22:01.00 | digmouse | *find |
| 22:01.11 | AckisWork | hmm does luac -p foo.lua return a value if I it fails? ie: can I add it to my .bat file for committing and have the commit stop if it doesn't compile? |
| 22:01.24 | digmouse | nah, perfect :D |
| 22:01.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah, it outputs an error |
| 22:01.48 | SunTsu | AckisWork: Shouldn't be too hard to test that, right? ,) |
| 22:01.54 | AckisWork | ouch :P |
| 22:02.38 | AckisWork | I was just thinking of adding a "sanity" check to my bat files :P |
| 22:03.20 | DARKGuy | ttyl guys :D |
| 22:03.34 | durcyn | just luac -l -p then check errorlevel |
| 22:03.39 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75402 10Grid/GridFrame.lua: Grid: Cosmetic tweaks and options for IconStackText |
| 22:04.21 | AckisWork | you sound like I'd know how to do that |
| 22:04.47 | pastamancer | in sh, it's $? |
| 22:04.55 | Xinhuan | at the msdos prompt, type "help if" ;p |
| 22:05.15 | Dashkal | false; echo $? -> 1 |
| 22:05.26 | Dashkal | but in bash? meh |
| 22:05.39 | ckknight | still $? |
| 22:05.40 | Xinhuan | google can't be that hard :) |
| 22:05.46 | Dashkal | install bash and use that on windows :p |
| 22:05.47 | Xinhuan | but i think its the same |
| 22:06.04 | Dashkal | but in bash -> but in command.com |
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| 22:07.31 | digmouse | xinhuan: is the property counting accuracy depends on LibItemBonus? |
| 22:07.42 | Xinhuan | yes digmouse |
| 22:07.45 | durcyn | in nt command script it just gets wedged into the %ERRORLEVEL% var |
| 22:07.56 | Xinhuan | so any error in counting should be directed to LibItemBonus-2.0 by jerry |
| 22:08.00 | durcyn | if that's nonzero, you fucked up. |
| 22:08.05 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75403 10GridCooldownText/ (4 files): |
| 22:08.05 | CIA-42 | GridCooldownText: |
| 22:08.05 | CIA-42 | - Initial commit |
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| 22:09.09 | digmouse | currently WoWEquip would only count 1/4 on zhCN client :( I'll look into LibItemBonus to see what can I improve |
| 22:09.22 | Xinhuan | 1/4 of what? |
| 22:09.33 | digmouse | almost everything |
| 22:09.40 | Xinhuan | are you referring to the set size? |
| 22:09.55 | Xinhuan | the setsize is counted in wowequip, not in the lib |
| 22:09.56 | digmouse | almost every stats |
| 22:10.15 | Xinhuan | i would think the lib is probably not localized properly in zhcn |
| 22:10.30 | digmouse | I have 350 resilence but wowequip would only count 102 |
| 22:10.40 | digmouse | so I would look into it :D |
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| 22:14.27 | CIA-42 | 03digmouse * r75404 10WoWEquip/ (localization.zhCN.lua localization.zhTW.lua): WoWEquip: - Fixed zhCN and zhTW set size detection pattern thanks to xinhuan. |
| 22:14.57 | Xinhuan | the chinese had to be special right? and use special ( ) brackets ;d |
| 22:16.09 | Arrowmaster | U+FF08 U+FF09 |
| 22:16.19 | Arrowmaster | ï¼ï¼ |
| 22:19.13 | Arrowmaster | Ｆï½ï½ï½ï¼·ï½ï½ï½ï½ï¼£ï½ï½ï½ï½ï½ï½ï½
ï½ï½ |
| 22:20.17 | digmouse | almost everything would be special in china :D |
| 22:20.17 | Xinhuan | if you're bored, write a carto_notes --> handynotes importer ;p |
| 22:20.36 | Arrowmaster | ï¼·ï½ï½
ï½ï½
ï½ï¼´ï½ï½
Ｄï½ï½ï½ï¼¦ï½ï½ï½ï¼·ï½ï½ï½ï½ï¼³ï½ï½ï½ï½
|
| 22:20.44 | digmouse | and I do find a lot of work to do with LibItemBonus |
| 22:21.51 | digmouse | must the translated string be the same as displayed in game? |
| 22:21.59 | digmouse | in LibItemBonus |
| 22:22.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:22.05 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 22:22.21 | Arrowmaster | does LibItemBonus still need the enchants and gems translated? |
| 22:22.27 | digmouse | ok then, revamp |
| 22:22.39 | Xinhuan | uncertain |
| 22:22.44 | Arrowmaster | or has it learned that you can get that info from the itemstring? |
| 22:22.50 | Xinhuan | i didn't really look into the rewrite |
| 22:22.56 | Xinhuan | i believe it still scans the text |
| 22:22.58 | digmouse | enchants and gems are included in WoWEquip |
| 22:23.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah i hate that |
| 22:23.13 | Arrowmaster | translating useless stuff |
| 22:23.16 | digmouse | and they works even without localization |
| 22:24.26 | Pkekyo| | 'people say "rape isn't funny, you can't joke about that"... I say "fuck you, I think it's hilarious!'" :p |
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| 22:24.37 | digmouse | -.- |
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| 22:26.32 | Xinhuan | you have overlapping quote marks Pkekyo| :p |
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| 22:35.06 | CIA-42 | 03danielbarron * r75405 10RaidBuffStatus/ (8 files): |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-42 | RaidBuffStatus: |
| 22:35.06 | CIA-42 | - Added the option to hide selected dashboard items on entering combat to reduce the size and only show what matters in combat. |
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| 22:36.53 | Trell_ | woah |
| 22:37.00 | Trell_ | whats this i see on WoR about carto 3? |
| 22:37.10 | Arrowmaster | ~cartographer3 |
| 22:37.11 | purl | rumour has it, cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 22:37.23 | Arrowmaster | very early alpha |
| 22:37.30 | Arrowmaster | far from finished |
| 22:37.32 | Trell_ | and lemme guess, all the other carto addons wont function with it atm, ie Routes |
| 22:37.35 | Trell_ | as it stands atm |
| 22:37.41 | Arrowmaster | routes works fine |
| 22:37.46 | Xinhuan | Routes will work on cart3 ;p |
| 22:37.50 | Xinhuan | carto_routes won't |
| 22:37.59 | Arrowmaster | carto_routes is dead |
| 22:38.34 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you should copy that message you put in carto_routes into the ones that can be replaced by GatherMate, nobody maintains them anyway |
| 22:38.45 | Trell_ | *rushes off to try carto3* |
| 22:39.03 | Trell_ | actually it can wait till I've sated my TF2 addiction |
| 22:39.03 | Xinhuan | you'll probably end up finding mapster more useful than cart3 ;p |
| 22:39.25 | Pkekyo| | Xinhuan: that's why I used ' and "...to tell apart what quotes was part of the main quote :p |
| 22:39.28 | Xinhuan | until cart3 is in a more completed state |
| 22:40.13 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you should go bitch at WoR and tell them not to say that you've 'released' Carto3 since it makes it sound like its complete |
| 22:40.20 | Trell_ | it does to be honest |
| 22:40.27 | Zhinjio | well folks, time for me to go get packed up and ready to go on vacation. |
| 22:40.30 | Trell_ | and I quote: |
| 22:40.34 | Trell_ | "A well-known mod maker Ckknight, the author of popular addons such as Cartographer, Pitbull, FuBar (+plugins), just released a brand new version of the addon Cartographer; called Cartographer 3." |
| 22:40.35 | Zhinjio | Y'all have a good week |
| 22:40.49 | dylanm | Good job WoR. |
| 22:41.05 | dylanm | Bibi would never do you like that. |
| 22:41.17 | Arrowmaster | Teza would |
| 22:41.19 | *** join/#wowace dezzimal (i=nyoron@207-118-189-157.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 22:41.21 | Zhinjio | do you best to survive without my unerring wit and charm until I get back. |
| 22:41.24 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 22:41.24 | Xinhuan | cart3 is something like 20% complete |
| 22:41.30 | Zhinjio | waves. |
| 22:41.31 | Arrowmaster | in an instant to get more traffic |
| 22:41.37 | *** join/#wowace luxus (n=luxus@Yd4ab.y.pppool.de) |
| 22:41.44 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, give or take |
| 22:41.55 | Trell_ | so maybe not worth trying yet? |
| 22:42.02 | Trell_ | actually I'll be the judge of that I guess |
| 22:42.02 | Bibi | It's called "Curse whining at Teza to get some traffic now that they bought him" |
| 22:42.06 | Xinhuan | you can try it, for a "preview" kind of thing |
| 22:42.08 | Hjalte | ckknight: How come it's 0.1.1 on the curse download page and not 0.1.4? |
| 22:42.14 | Xinhuan | but its not really a completed product |
| 22:42.21 | Xinhuan | and has few/no options |
| 22:42.30 | Hjalte | ckknight: I meant 0.1.1-4 |
| 22:42.43 | ckknight | Hjalte: that -4 means it's not a real tag. |
| 22:42.44 | Hjalte | Oh wait. I suppose it could be. |
| 22:42.53 | dylanm | Trell_: Installing and removing it aren't really big operations. It's fun to play with if nothing else. |
| 22:43.00 | ckknight | -4 means it's 4 revisions after 0.1.1 |
| 22:43.01 | Trell_ | it sounds awesome |
| 22:43.01 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: add big red text saying 'NOT FINISHED' or something on the curse page for the idiots |
| 22:43.37 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: and more big red text telling them to use the tickets not post in the comments |
| 22:43.37 | ckknight | Trell_: some have been using it for their main addon, I don't personally recommend that yet, but you're full able to |
| 22:43.45 | ckknight | just be sure to file tickets for bugs/features you have |
| 22:43.51 | Arrowmaster | lots of idiots |
| 22:43.52 | Zyuu | I even created a sticky post in the support forum |
| 22:43.54 | Chompers | ckk! good day to you |
| 22:43.57 | Zyuu | some people really doesnt get it |
| 22:43.57 | *** join/#wowace Atriace (n=omnizeta@188.118.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 22:43.58 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I plan to actually add something to curse/curseforge proper to that regard. |
| 22:44.07 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: regarding the nag message, i intend to add no such thing to the cart_<profs> addon, as they are not my addons |
| 22:44.25 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: well somebody should.... |
| 22:44.26 | Trell_ | i see mmo-c hasn't even added it to todays news, which is probably a better call |
| 22:44.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ? |
| 22:44.32 | Kody- | That's actually Zyuu's fault btw |
| 22:44.37 | Diskmaster | ahahaha, I'm stupid |
| 22:44.40 | ckknight | totally Zyuu's fault. |
| 22:44.46 | Kody- | He posted an article on Curse.com saying it was released |
| 22:44.51 | Xinhuan | ckknight: arrowmaster suggested i add nag messages to some of the cartographer plugins to say they are no longer being maintained |
| 22:44.52 | Diskmaster | just tried to start TF2 after updating nvidia-drivers |
| 22:44.57 | ckknight | Xinhuan: alright |
| 22:44.57 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i told him to add a nag message to the prof addons saying to use gathermate like he did for carto_routes to use routes |
| 22:45.15 | Trell_ | Diskmaster; a fellow TF2 player :P |
| 22:45.27 | Zyuu | Did you play QWTF though Trell_? |
| 22:45.28 | Diskmaster | Trell_, yeah. :O |
| 22:45.29 | Xinhuan | in carto_routes, i added a nag message on every P_E_W to delete and switch to routes, and only because it is a true upgrade and they are both my addons |
| 22:45.29 | Trell_ | TF2 is my second most played game after WoW - yes, I am sad, yes I have no life. |
| 22:45.37 | Trell_ | nope Zyuu |
| 22:46.00 | Trell_ | TF2 was my first 'real' foray into FPS gaming, hated all other previously, even bought CS on a friends reccomendation, and outright HATED it |
| 22:46.01 | Zyuu | ah |
| 22:46.06 | Diskmaster | Gotta reboot though. |
| 22:46.22 | Zyuu | TF2 is okay, they need to make it opensource though |
| 22:46.32 | Trell_ | I adore TF2. |
| 22:46.40 | Arrowmaster | ROFL wtf |
| 22:46.52 | Trell_ | although I wish I sucked less at playing scout, spy, soldier - in fact most of the classes |
| 22:47.00 | Arrowmaster | why is WoR linking to a youtube copy of that vimeo carto3 vid |
| 22:47.19 | Xinhuan | maybe they ran out of things to report |
| 22:47.41 | Zyuu | Arrowmaster it's likely he does not have the vimeo link |
| 22:47.52 | *** join/#wowace Diskmaster (n=YOURFACE@CPE-76-85-147-197.neb.res.rr.com) |
| 22:47.55 | Arrowmaster | the vimeo link is on the curse page.... |
| 22:48.06 | Zyuu | actually, on Curse it's the Curse video link. |
| 22:48.09 | Zyuu | Not vimeo. |
| 22:48.12 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 22:48.18 | Zyuu | and we do not have embed support yet |
| 22:48.30 | Arrowmaster | the bar looked the same i think |
| 22:48.44 | Arrowmaster | quality sucks on the curse one |
| 22:49.35 | Zyuu | Yes, that's because we use the LQ version of the codec on Curse. |
| 22:49.49 | Zyuu | We will have higher quality video as an option in the future |
| 22:49.53 | Arrowmaster | which codec are you using? |
| 22:50.24 | Zyuu | I don't know the codec system, the old dev knows that - we're replacing it all eventually. It's not a top priority. But basically, it offer to stream two ways: |
| 22:50.30 | Zyuu | hiqher quality or low |
| 22:50.48 | Arrowmaster | i suggest h264 |
| 22:51.02 | Arrowmaster | when you do |
| 22:51.20 | Zyuu | yeah, that's the best |
| 22:51.24 | Zyuu | I know of a site that switched to it |
| 22:51.29 | Zyuu | the files are smaller and retain good quality :) |
| 22:51.38 | Daemona | ~seen tekkub |
| 22:51.43 | purl | tekkub is currently on #wowprogramming (3h 38m 26s) #wowuidev (3h 38m 26s) #wowace (3h 38m 26s) #curseforge (3h 38m 26s) #wowwiki (3h 38m 26s). Has said a total of 43 messages. Is idling for 1h 33m 48s, last said: 'then you just wait for some scissors to come along'. |
| 22:52.18 | Arrowmaster | i downloaded 45GB of h264 encoded babylon5 rips |
| 22:52.32 | Daemona | hmmm donuts.... |
| 22:52.36 | Daemona | eeerh h264 |
| 22:52.37 | Arrowmaster | files were nice size but the rips sucked due to interlacing |
| 22:53.06 | Arrowmaster | replaced them with my own box sets for seasons 1-5 |
| 22:53.27 | Zyuu | hmm I havent watched babylon5 yet |
| 22:53.32 | Zyuu | I watch a lot of tv series heh |
| 22:53.35 | Daemona | never before? |
| 22:53.37 | Daemona | wow |
| 22:53.38 | Zyuu | but running out |
| 22:53.40 | Zyuu | Nope :) |
| 22:53.50 | Arrowmaster | i actually hadnt watched it until recently |
| 22:53.50 | Zyuu | about 2.5 years ago I hadnt watched any stargate either |
| 22:53.54 | Zyuu | now ive watched all stargate there is |
| 22:54.03 | Zyuu | all supernaturals, etc etc |
| 22:54.04 | Arrowmaster | hehe i have the 10 season box set of sg1 |
| 22:54.06 | Zyuu | even smallville :P |
| 22:54.10 | Zyuu | me too, I'm a fan now |
| 22:54.12 | Zyuu | it's just that good |
| 22:54.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:54.26 | Zyuu | although Jack O'neill is awesome |
| 22:54.30 | Zyuu | noone could really replace him |
| 22:54.32 | NightHawkTheSane | RDA ftw. |
| 22:54.36 | Zyuu | yes |
| 22:54.37 | Gagorian | Where did you get h264 B5?! |
| 22:54.38 | Gagorian | giif |
| 22:54.44 | Zyuu | www.tvtorrents.com probably |
| 22:54.46 | Arrowmaster | i used to have rips of all ST:TNG and DS9 but that drive died |
| 22:54.57 | Zyuu | I downloaded 2005 seasons of Doctor Who |
| 22:54.59 | Zyuu | a week ago |
| 22:55.01 | Zyuu | slowly watching it |
| 22:55.03 | Zyuu | it's a bit cheesy |
| 22:55.04 | Arrowmaster | pirate bay |
| 22:55.08 | Zyuu | but it's okay |
| 22:55.10 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75406 10RBM/Locales/koKR.lua: RBM: Fixed koKR localization bug. |
| 22:55.13 | Zyuu | seen supernaturals then Arrowmaster? |
| 22:55.15 | Zyuu | also fun stuff |
| 22:55.37 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: pirate bay, torrent created sep 30, 2007 |
| 22:56.30 | Zyuu | http://www.tvtorrents.com/loggedin/show.do?id=128 |
| 22:56.33 | Arrowmaster | Gagorian: but its a perty bad job of deinterlacing on the season 1-5 rips, movies and newer stuff was better |
| 22:56.43 | Lywellyn | Wait, "localization bug"? Is that a euphamism for "typo fix"? o_O |
| 22:57.21 | Arrowmaster | Zyuu: eww thats the new tvtorrents.com after the domain got taken over isnt it? |
| 22:57.38 | Gagorian | Arrowmaster: kk |
| 22:57.45 | Daemona | http://ace.pastey.net/88576 - anyone a idea whom to direct this one to? |
| 22:57.50 | Zyuu | Yes, it's pretty good though Arrowmaster. |
| 22:57.57 | Zyuu | Im out of invites to give out |
| 22:58.05 | Zyuu | www.torrentleech.com is good as well |
| 22:58.17 | Arrowmaster | bt-chat.com |
| 22:58.50 | Zyuu | mmm its not a private one? |
| 22:58.55 | Zyuu | I only use private ones with ssl :P |
| 22:59.22 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 23:00.11 | Vonhinten | Arrowmaster, hope you're running VirusScanning, cause that bt-chat link just tried to run W32.SpyShredder on my system |
| 23:00.24 | Lywellyn | Daemona: Holy crap |
| 23:00.24 | Arrowmaster | probably an add |
| 23:00.29 | Arrowmaster | ad |
| 23:00.33 | Arrowmaster | which i have blocked |
| 23:01.31 | Lywellyn | Daemona: I'd poke cladhaire, since lightheaded is the first error. |
| 23:01.40 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/87721 |
| 23:03.26 | NeoTron | So I hate to admit it but I'm getting to the point where I'm considering trying out KTM again |
| 23:03.37 | NeoTron | Omen is at a level wheer we simply cannot trust it at all |
| 23:03.46 | Zyuu | yeah prolly an ad, adblock plus is good ;) |
| 23:04.05 | Diskmaster | I'd also use noscript if you aren't already |
| 23:04.13 | NeoTron | when a pally tanks he doesn't seem to "gain" threat but remains low. We have dps pull aggro when they are significantly below the tank etc |
| 23:04.23 | Zyuu | NeoTron, you should make sure to report all issues to the author of Omen, it's taking some time to adapt to the recent patches I bet |
| 23:04.26 | Arrowmaster | are people all updated? |
| 23:04.59 | NeoTron | there's really nothing to report |
| 23:05.10 | NeoTron | and Antiarc is really busy |
| 23:05.10 | Vonhinten | Hmm.. I think that virus tried to come through PDF.. be on alert for a 0-day on Adobe Acrobat |
| 23:05.16 | Gnarfoz | sounds like "not everyone at the same rev" |
| 23:05.21 | NeoTron | but "tank threat is too low" isn't useful feedback |
| 23:05.33 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: we've had this happen with everyone using the same version too |
| 23:05.41 | NeoTron | at least the "too low threat" |
| 23:05.44 | Arrowmaster | the same recent version? |
| 23:05.45 | Trell_ | we don't have any issues with it - as long as we remind everyone to update Omen before the raid |
| 23:05.52 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75407 10RBM/Locales/ (koKR.lua zhCN.lua): RBM: koKR/zhCN update. If you are not using one of the clients it will not load the locales. |
| 23:05.53 | Gnarfoz | also, yes 'threat too low' is useful, if you can be bothered to test it reproducably |
| 23:05.53 | Trell_ | although we're only at Teron and Azgalor |
| 23:05.55 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 23:06.07 | Gnarfoz | i.e. enable threat logging AND combatlogging and supply both |
| 23:06.20 | CIA-42 | 03Fritos * r75408 10DailiesQuestTracker/ (. DailiesQuestTracker.toc embeds.xml): |
| 23:06.20 | CIA-42 | DailiesQuestTracker: |
| 23:06.20 | CIA-42 | - Testing Libs |
| 23:06.26 | NeoTron | threat logging? |
| 23:06.57 | NeoTron | still regardless, you have to admit that Antiarc is the prime developer of Omen and he's just too busy to do anything |
| 23:07.09 | NeoTron | I know others have done stuff (like fixing the threat on RoS phase 3) |
| 23:07.22 | Lywellyn | ~seen Antiarc |
| 23:07.23 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (4h 50m 12s) #wowace (4h 50m 12s) #curseforge (4h 50m 12s). Has said a total of 7 messages. Is idling for 2h 9m 33s, last said: 'So I'm rather WoW-deprived right now :P'. |
| 23:07.31 | CIA-42 | 03sayclub * r75409 10GridCooldownText/GridCooldownText-koKR.lua: |
| 23:07.31 | CIA-42 | GridCooldownText : |
| 23:07.31 | CIA-42 | - Added koKR localization |
| 23:07.37 | NeoTron | Antiarc mentioned he had some ideas of whaqt might be wrong some time ago |
| 23:07.52 | Xinhuan | he hasn't shared his ideas with anyone |
| 23:08.22 | Xinhuan | also in a raid situation, any testing done there is not objective, if threat values are wrong, its likely because the base threat value numbers are wrong |
| 23:08.24 | Apoco | gridcooldowntext? |
| 23:08.25 | Apoco | >_> |
| 23:08.56 | NeoTron | specifically: #wowace.05-09.log:02:09 <+Antiarc> From what's been reported I think it's an issue with transactioned threat abilities always committing even when they should be rolled back |
| 23:09.00 | Xinhuan | your testing methods should really include something like taking a warrior to some lowbie land, sunder a mob once maybe, and then you melee unarmed until you pull aggro |
| 23:09.12 | Xinhuan | now that would be objective testing |
| 23:09.28 | NeoTron | it would also be incomplete and incorrect |
| 23:09.40 | NeoTron | we seem to primarily have an issue with our druid tank and there's so many factors in a raid |
| 23:09.43 | Xinhuan | incomplete yes, incorrect no |
| 23:10.00 | NeoTron | PoM, lifebloom, misdirects, abilities, various buffs etc |
| 23:10.06 | Xinhuan | because any testing must first begin from the base |
| 23:10.21 | NeoTron | <+Antiarc> things like Sunder. Anything that doesn't report a combat log entry when it lands, only when it doesn't land |
| 23:10.54 | NeoTron | I dunno if druids have such abilities |
| 23:10.56 | Xinhuan | and that's why people need to test it in a more controlled situation |
| 23:11.08 | Xinhuan | a 25-man raid is not a controlled situation |
| 23:11.57 | Xinhuan | PoM, lifebloom, misdirects, abilities, various buffs etc <-- each of these can be tested separately |
| 23:12.25 | NeoTron | for all I know it can be some sort of race condition too |
| 23:12.34 | NeoTron | doesn't necessarily have to be a specific item that's broken |
| 23:12.44 | Xinhuan | yep but without the separate tests, you can't even eliminate that possibility |
| 23:12.49 | Lywellyn | PoM = Presence of Mind? |
| 23:12.53 | NeoTron | Prayer of Mending |
| 23:12.58 | Lywellyn | ah. |
| 23:13.04 | Lywellyn | that makes sense then. :p |
| 23:13.18 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: confirmed in testing code, ill have to figure out why |
| 23:13.21 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: thing is it doesn't ALWAYS seem off |
| 23:13.26 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75410 10RBM_DrumWatch/DrumWatch.lua: RBM_DrumWatch: Locales update. |
| 23:13.37 | NeoTron | I've sit in fights where I am at 120% threat no problem. then another time I see someone pull aggro when they are at 90 |
| 23:13.39 | Xinhuan | when it isn't off, you generally don't take notice of it |
| 23:13.40 | NeoTron | with the same tank |
| 23:13.47 | Xinhuan | even though it might be off |
| 23:14.06 | NeoTron | we notice because we die and wipe :P |
| 23:14.21 | Xinhuan | yeah but in the situations you don't.. it might be off and you don't notice |
| 23:14.50 | NeoTron | this is typically only an issue on some fights |
| 23:15.01 | NeoTron | specifically Bloodboil, Illidan flames, Brutallus and Felmyst |
| 23:15.07 | NeoTron | threat sensitive fights |
| 23:15.15 | Xinhuan | duh |
| 23:15.21 | Xinhuan | that goes without saying |
| 23:15.30 | Xinhuan | you don't even need omen on non-threat sensitive fights |
| 23:15.48 | NeoTron | still though what is confusing is that it doesn't seem to be consistent |
| 23:16.28 | NeoTron | and btw I compare changelogs to make sure people have new enough versions. if nothing significant changed (like some mechanics for a fight we never do) that's fine |
| 23:16.48 | CIA-42 | 03whitetooth * r75411 10GridCooldownText/GridCooldownText.lua: |
| 23:16.48 | CIA-42 | GridCooldownText: |
| 23:16.48 | CIA-42 | - Fixed: sometimes countdown won't start |
| 23:17.43 | Xinhuan | btw, i must admit that continuous polling has its advantages |
| 23:18.01 | Xinhuan | because a lot of things threat-2.0 does, is based on guesswork because of refusal to poll |
| 23:18.29 | NeoTron | seems like no significant changes since the 17th |
| 23:18.32 | Xinhuan | well maybe not that much |
| 23:18.44 | Xinhuan | what major change was 17th? |
| 23:18.54 | NeoTron | not a major change, just some fix to periodical heals |
| 23:19.01 | NeoTron | 15th seems to have a pally tank taunt fix |
| 23:19.07 | NeoTron | so it's possible the pally tank has an older version |
| 23:19.07 | Xinhuan | that wasn't even a major fix |
| 23:19.13 | Xinhuan | it was just adding 2 bytes to the whole file |
| 23:19.15 | Xinhuan | ( ) |
| 23:19.16 | Xinhuan | brackets |
| 23:19.49 | Ackis | alert: how to you change repository names on the ace svn? |
| 23:20.05 | Xinhuan | pally taunt only works if the target you are taunting off has omen as well |
| 23:20.12 | NeoTron | still there's nothing changed in the past couple of weeks that should affect druid threat |
| 23:20.20 | NeoTron | they do |
| 23:20.33 | Xinhuan | so that implies that druid threat has always been inaccurate |
| 23:20.47 | NeoTron | there has been fixes to it before but yes |
| 23:21.05 | NeoTron | not saying warrior is entirely accurate only that druid seems off more than warrior |
| 23:21.12 | Xinhuan | btw the taunt mechanics are broken in threat-2.0 |
| 23:21.23 | Xinhuan | just so you know |
| 23:21.26 | NeoTron | how so? |
| 23:21.35 | NeoTron | pretty big part of brutallus... |
| 23:21.36 | Xinhuan | it doesn't check for resists or immunity |
| 23:21.41 | Xinhuan | it just assumes it works |
| 23:21.43 | Xinhuan | atm |
| 23:21.49 | Xinhuan | also |
| 23:21.54 | NeoTron | not good :-/ |
| 23:21.59 | Xinhuan | it assumes that the target you are taunting off |
| 23:22.09 | Xinhuan | that the "targettarget" is the threat you will be gaining |
| 23:22.20 | NeoTron | also bad with random raid targeting mobs |
| 23:22.23 | Xinhuan | so if brutallus is randomly targgteing some healer to cast burn |
| 23:22.25 | CIA-42 | 03feithar * r75412 10FBagOfHolding/FItemDB.lua: |
| 23:22.25 | CIA-42 | FBagOfHolding: |
| 23:22.25 | CIA-42 | - Disabled ability to scan guild bank items for views until I can optimize cpu utilization. |
| 23:22.28 | Xinhuan | and the person taunts at that time |
| 23:22.42 | Xinhuan | he will assume the htreat of whoeever that healer is |
| 23:22.42 | NeoTron | still though that should result in, at best, lower threat |
| 23:22.44 | NeoTron | wait |
| 23:22.54 | Xinhuan | if the healer's threat is lower, then nothing happens, threat is unchanged |
| 23:23.01 | Xinhuan | if its higher, its set to the higher value |
| 23:23.09 | NeoTron | does a taunt base threat of the current tank or the currently highest threat? |
| 23:23.13 | NeoTron | I thought it was the latter? |
| 23:23.20 | Xinhuan | its the former |
| 23:23.22 | Xinhuan | not the latter |
| 23:23.39 | NeoTron | then how did we use that trick on alar with warlocks w/o salv? |
| 23:23.50 | Xinhuan | what warlock trick? |
| 23:23.57 | Xinhuan | the fact that the boss is randomly targetting a person to cast a random ability is irrelevant |
| 23:23.59 | NeoTron | dps without salvation to build up a huge threat buffer |
| 23:24.12 | NeoTron | tanks would taunt to gain the threat of the highest warlock |
| 23:24.16 | Xinhuan | its a threat wipe on every meteor |
| 23:24.20 | Xinhuan | its irrelevant |
| 23:24.25 | NeoTron | no it's not |
| 23:24.35 | NeoTron | there's no threat wipes in that fight |
| 23:24.44 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75413 10RBM/ModuleClasses/Base.lua: RBM: Fixed utf8sub error |
| 23:24.47 | Xinhuan | it doesn't work |
| 23:24.53 | NeoTron | works fine for us |
| 23:25.01 | Xinhuan | i can assure you it doesn't work on brutallus |
| 23:25.01 | NeoTron | and omen at the time accounted for it |
| 23:25.23 | Xinhuan | taunt works off the person holding aggro, not off the highest threat person |
| 23:25.47 | NeoTron | it might be then that the highest threat did have aggro for a brief period of time |
| 23:25.51 | Xinhuan | this is well documented in many places including EJ forums and kenco's articles |
| 23:26.02 | *** join/#wowace lagger (n=lagger@c-71-232-111-118.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 23:26.15 | Xinhuan | and satrina's threat guides |
| 23:26.48 | Xinhuan | the fact that omen assumes "targettarget" threat is problematic |
| 23:26.56 | Xinhuan | because it can result in both underestimates and overestimates |
| 23:26.58 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75414 10/trunk/ (BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/ KalecgosHealth/): Renamed remotely |
| 23:27.30 | Xinhuan | but there is otherwise no reliable method of determining who is holding aggro, short of polling |
| 23:27.31 | Diao | yeah |
| 23:27.52 | Diao | also omen doesn't track the threat properly when a mob is immune to taunt |
| 23:28.00 | Diao | on fights like VR some of my OTs hit taunt for no reason |
| 23:28.09 | Diao | and it shows their threat incorrectly (sets it equal to whoever is currently tanking) |
| 23:28.13 | Xinhuan | that's what i said, omen assumes taunt works, dosen't check immune/resists |
| 23:28.17 | NeoTron | so basically waht you're saying is... due to being efficient, omen is inheritedly less accurate than KTM which uses polling |
| 23:28.22 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 23:28.22 | Diao | oh i only read the last few lines of what you said |
| 23:28.25 | Xinhuan | i coded up a fix already, 4 days ago |
| 23:28.30 | Xinhuan | submitted it to Antiarc |
| 23:28.35 | Xinhuan | he hasn't found time to even glance at it |
| 23:29.04 | Antiarc | I've glanced at it, I just don't have time to go test everything out |
| 23:29.11 | Xinhuan | by fix, i mean checking for resist/immune |
| 23:29.15 | Antiarc | But Xinhuan, you do good work, and I'm fine with you committing it if you stamp it as "ok" |
| 23:29.15 | Xinhuan | not the targettarget part |
| 23:29.16 | Antiarc | :) |
| 23:29.26 | Xinhuan | its untested |
| 23:29.27 | Antiarc | I'll investigate the transactional thing when I get time |
| 23:29.29 | Antiarc | Aha, oky. |
| 23:29.31 | Antiarc | okay* |
| 23:29.42 | Antiarc | Well dang, I'm gonna have to block off some time here soon >_< |
| 23:29.50 | Diao | i can test it maybe |
| 23:29.52 | Diao | i dunno |
| 23:29.52 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75415 10RBM_BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: RBM_BlackTemple: Illidan changes to hopefully always start properly. |
| 23:29.56 | Diao | have to find a taunt immune mob though |
| 23:30.18 | NeoTron | Antiarc: I want omen to be good but we're having quite a bit of wipes from it in fights where "assuming it's wrong" leads to enrage timer issues. :-/ |
| 23:30.22 | Xinhuan | that could be problematic... who can name a taunt immune mob that is easily accessible? |
| 23:30.32 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Heh, I want it to be good, too. |
| 23:30.32 | CIA-42 | 03arrowmaster * r75416 10Chatter/Modules/UrlCopy.lua: Chatter: UrlCopy: bugfix |
| 23:30.38 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: try that |
| 23:30.42 | NeoTron | I will try to get some testing done with a druid in controlled fashion |
| 23:30.56 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75417 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua: |
| 23:30.56 | CIA-42 | RBM_AbilityWatch: |
| 23:30.56 | CIA-42 | - Fixed Rebirth Tracking |
| 23:30.58 | NeoTron | but I am also strapped for time on this between leading raids, farming for raids, working on my other addons etc |
| 23:31.01 | Xinhuan | the thing NeoTron, is that its been years since the original threat testings |
| 23:31.11 | Xinhuan | base threat values of abilities might have changed |
| 23:31.20 | Xinhuan | and nobody's tested them otherwise |
| 23:31.42 | Xinhuan | generally speaking 1 damage = 1 threat, and some abilities have a base threat value that is tacked on top of that damage |
| 23:31.47 | CIA-42 | 03apoco * r75418 10RBM_BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: RBM_BlackTemple: Removed debug code from Illidan....ooppsss |
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| 23:32.09 | Xinhuan | for example, Counterspell is 350 threat.. same as sunder |
| 23:32.23 | NeoTron | so what is this threat log thing? |
| 23:32.24 | Xinhuan | but nobody knows how much threat a resisted counterspell is |
| 23:32.44 | Xinhuan | its just a debug flag you can turn on to log stuff |
| 23:33.42 | Xinhuan | i mean, who would go around CSing mobs until you get a resisted ;p |
| 23:33.59 | Xinhuan | and repeat that 5 times and get somebody to try to pull aggro off you, 1 damage by 1 damage |
| 23:34.21 | CIA-42 | 03Fritos * r75419 10DailiesQuestTracker/DailiesQuestTracker.toc: |
| 23:34.21 | CIA-42 | DailiesQuestTracker: |
| 23:34.21 | CIA-42 | - Testing Libs |
| 23:34.25 | NeoTron | still I'm sure that's minimal if anything |
| 23:34.42 | Hjalte | Is anyone able to get CoolDownButtons working? |
| 23:34.42 | NeoTron | and warlock dps threat, for example, is exceedingly simple |
| 23:34.43 | Xinhuan | now what is minimal multiplies over time |
| 23:34.55 | Xinhuan | what if sunder armor's threat value is wrong by 10 threat? |
| 23:35.04 | NeoTron | that's different than a counterspell |
| 23:35.05 | Xinhuan | over 6 minutes multiplied by threat multipliers? |
| 23:35.25 | NeoTron | main point was I'm concerned about tank threat more than what a resisted, or not, counterspell is |
| 23:35.39 | Arrowmaster | ktm will still be less accurate than threatlib though just by design unless theres actual bugs in threatlib or incorrect data that ktm has correctly |
| 23:35.39 | Xinhuan | there are difficulties with sunder armor |
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| 23:36.01 | Arrowmaster | since ktm doesnt care about minor threat stuff like the 80 some threat from applying a debuff |
| 23:36.03 | Diao | xinhuan maybe this weekend |
| 23:36.05 | Diao | i could test it |
| 23:36.07 | Diao | with VR |
| 23:36.07 | Xinhuan | the current method checks for the player casting it |
| 23:36.12 | Diao | that's about the only way i can think of |
| 23:36.23 | Xinhuan | then waits a while for combat log |
| 23:36.33 | Xinhuan | if a sunder is reported, check the number of stacks |
| 23:36.42 | Xinhuan | on the mob, and YOU MUST BE TARGETTING THE MOB |
| 23:36.46 | Xinhuan | if you aren't, omen fails |
| 23:37.01 | Arrowmaster | so no mouseover sunder macros? |
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| 23:37.11 | Antiarc | correct |
| 23:37.12 | Xinhuan | it will fail thrat-2.0 horribly if you do that |
| 23:37.23 | Antiarc | if someone can think of a good way to solve that, I'm all ears |
| 23:37.23 | Xinhuan | that's where polling comes into play |
| 23:37.25 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: well I suspect/expect that threatlib does have actual bugs |
| 23:37.32 | Arrowmaster | ah but ive heard those are great for building threat on sheeps |
| 23:37.33 | Xinhuan | where it scans the whole raid for an appropriate unitID |
| 23:37.56 | Xinhuan | that matches a GUID |
| 23:38.09 | NeoTron | why does it check the number of stacks? |
| 23:38.14 | Xinhuan | so anyway, it checks the mob for the number of stacks, then adds the appropriate threat |
| 23:38.20 | Xinhuan | because the threat at each stack is different |
| 23:38.24 | Xinhuan | due to devastate |
| 23:38.41 | Xinhuan | it grows with more stacks |
| 23:39.01 | Xinhuan | when devastate is casted, if devastate lands, it procs sunder |
| 23:39.06 | Xinhuan | sunder may go off, or it may not |
| 23:39.23 | Xinhuan | sunder may not go off, if the mob is immune to it, or there is Expose Armor on it |
| 23:39.40 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75420 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/ (5 files): |
| 23:39.40 | CIA-42 | BigWigs_KalecgosHealth: |
| 23:39.40 | CIA-42 | - Renamed files |
| 23:39.40 | CIA-42 | - Updated title in ToC |
| 23:39.41 | CIA-42 | - Set logtemplate |
| 23:39.46 | Xinhuan | if either of this happens, the sunder threat component is not added |
| 23:39.53 | Xinhuan | but the devastate component is |
| 23:40.09 | NeoTron | weird. |
| 23:40.17 | Xinhuan | so that assumes that it lands and stacks builds up |
| 23:40.40 | Xinhuan | now if it doesn't land, then the cmobatlog will generate a parry, dodge, immune or whatever message |
| 23:41.00 | Xinhuan | alternative, it can land and the combatlog generates NO message - refreshing a debuff on the mob doesn't generate a message |
| 23:41.19 | Xinhuan | this obviously causes issues |
| 23:41.33 | profalbert | it sometimes generates a message, i think |
| 23:41.36 | Xinhuan | since again, you have to do polling to determine whether it landed (in ktm's case) |
| 23:41.45 | Xinhuan | or record the time the sunder is casted |
| 23:41.53 | Xinhuan | and check again in a bit |
| 23:41.57 | Xinhuan | and assume its success or failure |
| 23:42.16 | NeoTron | so to be honest, is it harder to do threat stuff in 2.4 style combat log? |
| 23:42.22 | NeoTron | disregarding multi-target threat |
| 23:42.25 | Xinhuan | for some abilities, yes |
| 23:42.33 | Xinhuan | it became harder |
| 23:43.09 | Xinhuan | previously, you just parse the damn combat log for 3 outcomes, now you parse the combatlog for 10 different outcomes |
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| 23:43.38 | malikeye | so, I can "load addon snapshot" and get a replica on another machine of my currently installe addons ? |
| 23:43.46 | malikeye | for wowaceupdater |
| 23:43.58 | CIA-42 | 03ackis * r75421 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.lua: |
| 23:43.58 | CIA-42 | BigWigs_KalecgosHealth: |
| 23:43.58 | CIA-42 | - Typo fix of Sunwell Plateau |
| 23:44.07 | Xinhuan | err malikeye, just copy the Interface and WTF folders over |
| 23:44.30 | malikeye | yeah, but then I gotta go in and configure wowaceupdater again |
| 23:44.39 | malikeye | if it has the ability to just "import" that would be better |
| 23:44.43 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure where WAU settings are stored |
| 23:44.58 | Xinhuan | i half believe it depends on version, and operating system |
| 23:45.03 | Xinhuan | so it can be in like 20 different locatins |
| 23:45.45 | NivFreak | wait |
| 23:45.48 | NivFreak | did I just read that right |
| 23:45.58 | NivFreak | my mouse over devastate macro won't register threat correctly in omen? |
| 23:46.07 | Xinhuan | yes you read that right NivFreak |
| 23:46.17 | NivFreak | and the result is lower reported threat than actual? |
| 23:46.21 | Xinhuan | omen will register it on your actual target |
| 23:46.27 | Xinhuan | not your mouseover target |
| 23:46.29 | NivFreak | ... |
| 23:46.33 | NivFreak | that explains a LOT |
| 23:46.41 | NivFreak | I had no idea |
| 23:46.44 | Xinhuan | i told you, omen assumes a lot of things |
| 23:46.50 | Xinhuan | because of non-polling |
| 23:46.55 | NivFreak | is that omen or threatlib |
| 23:46.58 | Xinhuan | threatlib |
| 23:47.07 | Xinhuan | omen is just a display addon |
| 23:47.09 | NivFreak | yep |
| 23:47.15 | NivFreak | just checking that nothing had changed :P |
| 23:47.36 | Xinhuan | but saying "omen" is synonymous with "threatlib" |
| 23:47.45 | Xinhuan | since everyonw knows omen uses threatlib |
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| 23:48.00 | NivFreak | I was just checking :) |
| 23:48.43 | sacarasc | what? omen uses threatlib? i thought it used magic |
| 23:48.49 | Xinhuan | basically, the stuff like "sunder armor" is what threatlib calls "transactions" |
| 23:48.55 | Shirik | MagicLib |
| 23:48.59 | Shirik | someone needs to make this |
| 23:49.00 | Xinhuan | when the cast occurs, it starts a transaction |
| 23:49.17 | Xinhuan | then it finishes the transaction a while later, based on assumptions of whether it is successful or not |
| 23:49.37 | Xinhuan | its been working that way for 2 years |
| 23:50.00 | Xinhuan | so people that do fancy stuff like mouseover sunders, have always been getting inaccurate threat |
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| 23:51.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: only if it has a toggle for "more magic" |
| 23:51.13 | Xinhuan | in any case NeoTron, for the alar warlock buffer thing, its likely that the warlock truely held aggro, and the warriors just taunt it off him |
| 23:52.05 | Xinhuan | taunt relies on "targettarget" mechanic as is |
| 23:52.14 | Xinhuan | so mouseovertaunts wont' work either ;p |
| 23:52.23 | NeoTron | and that is a bug that might cause some mis-threat per Antiarc - it might not always roll back |
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| 23:52.42 | Xinhuan | even i'm not certain how transactional threat works in threatlib |
| 23:52.47 | NeoTron | questions, does druid tanks have such abilities? |
| 23:52.57 | Xinhuan | i haven't looked at that portion of threat in detail |
| 23:53.04 | NightHawkTheSane | not to my knowledge |
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| 23:53.24 | Xinhuan | have you looked in Druid.lua? |
| 23:53.32 | Xinhuan | and seen the number of times the word "guess" appears? |
| 23:53.38 | NightHawkTheSane | hehe |
| 23:53.59 | Xinhuan | druids do not use transactional threat for anything i think |
| 23:54.12 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone else hope blizz comes through with some built in threat stuff for wotlk? :P |
| 23:54.54 | NivFreak | hopefully it won't be total failure |
| 23:55.02 | Xinhuan | NeoTron, read all the comments in the file too |
| 23:55.32 | Dashkal | Here's hoping they just give us direct threat values for mobs. Though I assume you'd need a unitid to get them. |
| 23:55.46 | Xinhuan | you should in particular look at :Growl() |
| 23:55.52 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: wow |
| 23:56.03 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: you just answered a second mystery for me then |
| 23:56.15 | Xinhuan | what did i answer? |
| 23:56.16 | NivFreak | myself and my other tanks taunt al'ar before he changes platforms |
| 23:56.21 | NivFreak | a'lar |
| 23:56.23 | NivFreak | whatever |
| 23:56.30 | NivFreak | so that when he goes into phase 2 |
| 23:56.35 | NivFreak | generally we're already on top |
| 23:56.43 | Xinhuan | yeah that fails horribly because of "targettarget" |
| 23:56.43 | NivFreak | it works, but omen doesn't display the taunts |
| 23:56.46 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:56.49 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: seems most "guess" is for lower rank abililties? |
| 23:56.53 | NivFreak | I thought maybe they had made him immune to taunt |
| 23:57.04 | Xinhuan | seems like it NeoTron, but it underlies the fact that there is no formal testing |
| 23:57.21 | Xinhuan | and any of those values of any skill can change between any patch |
| 23:57.37 | Xinhuan | in addition did you see the GetStanceThreatMod() function has a flaw? |
| 23:57.57 | Xinhuan | if the druid skipped Aquatic Quest, that stance would not be there and the stance numbers would be shifted one lower down |
| 23:58.01 | Pkekyo| | "...fuck these boomers, and fuck these yuppies...Fuck everybody, now that I think about it!" :p |
| 23:58.02 | NeoTron | right |
| 23:58.32 | NeoTron | being selfish I understand the issues but they are irrelevant for this particular case |
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| 23:59.15 | Xinhuan | i dont' know how those numbers are obtained, but they should probably be redone/tested |
| 23:59.47 | Xinhuan | in fact the knockbacks from various bosses that reduce threat |
| 23:59.50 | Xinhuan | those are ALL guesses too |
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