IRC log for #wowace on 20080625

00:00.12CIA-4403kurax * r77344 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (6 files): AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Locales update
00:00.20CIA-4403ckknight * r77345 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/LibDogTag-Unit-3.0.lua:
00:00.20CIA-44LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 - fix a bug which caused all fontstrings to be seen as wacky units.
00:00.20CIA-44- set the wacky unit update time to 0.5 instead of 0.25
00:01.17SunTsuEngineering rocks. 9 primal shadows under an hour is an incredible rate
00:03.30Poul|Raidercan i get the minimap files out of the games files somehow?
00:03.39Poul|Raidergamefiles
00:03.41Arrowmasteryes
00:04.00Poul|Raiderlike one big map or alot of parts?
00:04.06Arrowmasterlots of parts
00:04.14philosound_Ace3: How do I access a module from within another module?
00:04.27Poul|Raiderare they named so i could write a script to combine em?
00:04.29philosound_i don´t seem to be able to reference it
00:04.32Arrowmasterphilosound_: addon:GetModule()
00:04.41Poul|Raiderbut Arrowmaster, what tools would i need to do it?
00:04.41philosound_great, thanks :)
00:04.50ArrowmasterPoul|Raider: look at cartographer instance maps
00:05.06Poul|Raiderwas not for a addon
00:05.11Poul|Raiderwas for bitmap file etc
00:05.13ckknightPoul|Raider: you should probably ask me
00:05.21aestilckknight: how is cart3 coming?
00:05.22ckknightPoul|Raider: I'm very comfortable with that kind of stuff
00:05.25ckknightaestil: swimmingly.
00:05.43Poul|Raideroki ckknight :)
00:05.52Arrowmasterckknight: which reminds me, do you have a cmdline mpq extracter or something to get stuff out of common.mpq?
00:06.04ckknightArrowmaster: I use mpqfs
00:06.07ckknightit's a fuse plugin
00:06.19ckknightthen I just do a find on the filesystem
00:06.26p3limpastey down?
00:06.37ckknightaestil: it's actually coming along really well, I wish more people filed tickets, though
00:06.42Arrowmasterguessing you also have a list of mpq loading order
00:07.00ckknightArrowmaster: yea, but it's not complex, and coincidentally is alphabetical
00:07.11Arrowmastersrsly?
00:07.24ckknightcommon, expansion01, patch, patch-2
00:07.26ckknightit's alphabetical
00:07.35ckknightthat's a coincidence, though
00:07.43ckknightokay, I'm gonna head home now
00:09.39CIA-4403parnic * r77346 10IceHUD/ (. IceHUD.toc embeds.xml):
00:09.39CIA-44IceHUD:
00:09.39CIA-44- removed LibMobHealth from the externals list and the embeds xml
00:09.39CIA-44- added LibDogTag-Unit to the optional deps list
00:10.37Parnici have a tiny problem with my addon that's sort of annoying and not really hurting anything...but SharedMedia-1.0 keeps getting included in the libs even though it's not in the embeds.xml or the TOC
00:11.00ArrowmasterParnic: try the svn:externals
00:11.01Parnicdoes anyone know why it would continue to be packaged with my mod? am i missing something somewhere? it's also not in the svn:externals for my addon dir
00:11.09Arrowmasterwhat mod?
00:11.17ParnicIceHUD
00:11.56Parnichttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/IceHUD
00:12.19Arrowmastersec, fish likes to be slow for me
00:12.30Parnicfor me too :)
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00:13.01Arrowmasterdid you create the svn:externals on the main dir?
00:13.20Parnicwell i took over the mod from someone else. they were originally using sm-1
00:13.30Parnici have since upgraded to lsm-2 and then -3 and updated the externals each time
00:13.33Parnici believe it's on the main dir, yes
00:13.36Arrowmasteryeah but did those externals exist there or did you add them?
00:13.42Arrowmasterbecause the libs dir has externals set too
00:13.44Arrowmasterhttp://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/IceHUD/libs
00:13.47Parnicahh, ok
00:13.50Parnici don't believe i set that
00:13.56Parnicbut that sounds like the problem :)
00:14.07Arrowmasteri would recommend removing them from the main dir and keeping them all set on the libs dir
00:14.14Parnicah, ok
00:14.20CIA-4403Kriery 07Kriery * r77347 10IceHUD/IceHud/modules/ (FocusCC.lua TargetCC.lua):
00:14.20CIA-44IceHUD:
00:14.20CIA-44- fix Shackle Undead bug (both enUS and koKR)
00:14.20CIA-44- see also: rev 77207 at trunk
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00:15.26Parnichmm. wonder what that submission does :P
00:15.44Arrowmasteryeah the externals have been set on the libs dir for that addon for a long time, so somebody came in and added it to the main dir when they should have just updated it on the libs dir
00:15.52Parnicgotcha. thanks for the help, arrow :)
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00:16.10Poul|Raidergot forced into some heoric, Arrowmaster, ckknight will ask later again about the minimap files(bbl)
00:16.16Arrowmasteroh and for an addon and not a lib, you dont have to hardembed callbackhandler
00:16.32Parnicwell i was getting an error whenever i loaded in when that wasn't there
00:16.38Parnicso i wasn't sure how to fix it, but that seemed to work
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00:17.32Arrowmasterload order issue probably
00:18.19Arrowmasteryou can add it like a normal external is what i ment
00:18.26Parnicoh ok
00:18.42Arrowmasterits only libraries that hardembed it
00:19.21Parnicgood to know. i'm not terribly well-versed in Ace :P i just know how to use lua. plus we use perforce at work, so... :)
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00:19.49KrsveSorry for asking but when I just updated all my addons they like just went gone :S they are in the wow folder and i can see them loggin "addon" button but they don´t work ingame
00:20.07ArrowmasterKrsve: vista?
00:20.10KrsveNo
00:20.35Arrowmastermake sure you got lua errors enabled
00:20.44Arrowmasterits in interface options under help
00:20.49Arrowmasterthen relog
00:20.51Krsvewill check it
00:22.43KrsveAsked a friend and he had the same problem. He told me to re-install the addons with external
00:22.59Krsvethat might be the problem
00:23.00Arrowmasterthat will probably work too
00:23.17Arrowmastersince im guessing its a bunch of missing libs and youve got lua errors disabled
00:23.43CIA-4403parnic * r77348 10IceHUD/ (. libs/):
00:23.43CIA-44IceHUD:
00:23.43CIA-44- removed externals from main directory and updated/replaced them in the libs directory to keep old/unused libraries out
00:24.09Krsveyes they work now :) thanks
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00:28.07Parnicarrowmaster: do you happen to know the location of CallbackHandler for my externals? I don't see it under /trunk/CallbackHandler or CallbackHandler-1.0 or anything
00:29.05Arrowmasterits inside of Ace3 in trunk
00:29.20Parnicawesome. appreciated :)
00:29.25Arrowmasteri was thinking that a tag got made for it but i dont see it
00:30.21ckknighthttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-200
00:30.25ckknight^--- relevant
00:30.55Parnicthanks, ck
00:30.56Pkekyo|not unlike your mom o.O'
00:31.17Parnictrying to figure out why my addons throws errors about callbackhandler when i try to use lsm-3
00:31.54Ellipsisfacepalms
00:32.10Parnic?
00:34.02Parnicwhat's up ellipsis?
00:34.36Ellipsismy palm
00:34.42Ellipsisspecifically in the direction of my face
00:34.50ParnicJust curious why :)
00:34.56Parnicand/or in response to what
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00:40.02*** topic/#wowace is http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | And remember, no matter where you go, there you are. -- Earl mac Rauch
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00:42.40CIA-4403lifetapt * r77350 10YouWereKilledBy/ (6 files):
00:42.41CIA-44YouWereKilledBy: Initial commit.
00:42.41CIA-44- Displays the name of whoever landed the killing blow on you when you die in PvP combat.
00:44.24Dark_Elfcool can build a bounty list now hehe
00:44.56laegEllipsis: re: getting a stubby error whenever i try to send a gm report i have had stuby installed for awhile and it has only started doing this recently
00:45.22Ellipsisbe that as it may, I'm fairly sure disabling stubby will resolve the issue :)
00:45.32Dark_Elfim surprised blizzard didnt implement the ear system in wow lol
00:45.42laegEllipsis: hehe ok i will try that now :)
00:45.50laegEllipsis: ty
00:45.59Parnicbah. now i'm getting a warning when i launch that gratuity-2.0 requires acelibrary...but acelibrary is clearly loaded
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00:47.03laegalso, does anyone know a way to turn off the annoying error message and sound for when you try to use a trinket that's on cooldown? i just added a trinket to my favourite attack macro and it works great and uses the trinket when available but when not ( for 2 minutes) i have to hear the annoying sound a few times a second and see the error
00:47.34ArrowmasterParnic: is that the only error your getting?
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00:47.44laegwhich basically sounds like a never ending echo of somebody hitting a saucepan with a hammer :)
00:47.45Parnicright now. i don't have stubby loaded, so i just get the one message box
00:48.00Parniconly loading with IceHUD enabled to make sure that it works standalone
00:48.14Ellipsislaeg: you might want to look up trinketing macros, many of them unregister the error event before triggering the item
00:48.32Ellipsisor for a more general solution, try something like ErrorMonster to supress the messages in all situations
00:50.12Avryslaeg - Check some Hunter Kill Command / Steady Shot macros, I've seen a few that turn off errors
00:50.49ArrowmasterParnic: so only IceHUD is enabled?
00:51.30Parniccorrect
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00:51.58Arrowmasteri would try renabling stubby and swatter
00:52.06Parnick
00:52.10Arrowmasterthat cant be the only error message
00:53.14Parnicheh, gratuity, waterfall, and deformat are all throwing the same error
00:53.18Parnicso something else is up. investigating :)
00:54.03Arrowmastersec going to try pulling in externals and checking that they are there correctly
00:54.33Arrowmasterwait
00:54.56Arrowmasterdo you have standalone versions of those mods even if theyre disabled?
00:55.07Parnici have them, yes. but they aren't loading
00:55.08Arrowmasterer libs
00:55.10Parnicthat would do it?
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00:55.48Arrowmasterthey might be loading due to acelibrary enabling them and then on the next reload they try to load before IceHUD and cant find acelibrary
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00:56.11Parnicwow. look what i've gotten myself into :P
00:56.23Parnici'll just trash the whole addons folder except mine and make sure that works fine
00:56.26Arrowmasterbest to make a 2nd addon folder
00:56.28Parnicthen call it a day
00:56.31Arrowmasterand just swap them
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00:56.59Arrowmasteryeah the acelibrary auto enabling is something a lot of people dont like
00:57.36Parnicdoesn't really bug me one way or the other, just glad to know that it works that way :)
00:57.36Arrowmasterfrom looking at it i dont see any problems so thats my only guess
00:58.16Arrowmasterone way to test would be to change all AceLibrary() calls to LibStub() then disable everything again
00:58.18Parnicyep. loads fine with all the other addons moved out
00:58.31Arrowmastersince LibStub() doesnt do the autoenabling
00:59.22Parnicwell you've been a tremendous help
00:59.24Parnicmany thanks
01:03.24CIA-4403parnic * r77351 10IceHUD/ (CallbackHandler-1.0.lua IceHUD.toc embeds.xml libs/):
01:03.24CIA-44IceHUD:
01:03.24CIA-44- moved CallbackHandler into the externals instead of embedding it directly into the mod. LSM-3.0 won't load cleanly without it
01:03.43Kemayockknight: I don't care.
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01:03.59Poul|Raiderthose links to aplha client on http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Main_Page etc? is that the full client, with all .mpq files etc?
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01:09.01Arrowmasterprobably, but talking about alpha stuff isnt a good idea in here due to NDA
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01:11.25CIA-4403lifetapt * r77352 10Paranoia_EPA/:
01:11.25CIA-44Paranoia_EPA:
01:11.25CIA-44-added externals property.
01:11.36dylanmPoul|Raider: They have an IRC channel.
01:11.53dylanmPoul|Raider: There's a lot of talk about it on the EJ IRC as well and no one seems to care.
01:12.28Poul|Raiderye Arrowmaster, i will just shh also. Was just wonding about how the client was downloadable with the NDA and such.
01:13.14ParnicLooking at http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibBabble-3.0 , if i wanted to use LibBabble-Spell's translations, i would just do the "local bs = ..." stuff in that page, then BS["spellName"] for the translation, right?
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01:19.04ArrowmasterParnic: no
01:19.08Arrowmasterbabblespell is dead
01:19.31lifetaptQuestion: are the zips found at http://files.wowace.com/ autogenerated once per day? I just made my initial commit for my addon about 10 minutes ago and it's not listed there so I'm just wondering.
01:19.42Arrowmastertakes 20+ minutes
01:19.55lifetaptAhh OK thanks.
01:20.17Arrowmasterand check files.wowace.com/ERRORS.txt
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01:21.50lifetaptAlright I'll make sure to do that, thanks.
01:22.00Arrowmasterthe script is currently running
01:22.10Arrowmasterso everytime you refresh it gets added to
01:22.26Arrowmasterif theres an error and your addon cant be packaged it will say so in there
01:22.34Parnicbabble spell is dead?
01:22.45ArrowmasterParnic: GetSpellInfo()
01:23.16lifetaptPerfect, found it on the list. Its category is listed as unknown, that's X-Category in the TOC?
01:23.17Parnicthat's part of the wow api?
01:23.21Arrowmasteryes
01:23.27Arrowmasterto both
01:24.04Parnicinteresting. wowwiki doesn't list that function
01:24.18NeoTronhttp://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellInfo
01:24.32Parnicoh, so then the search is broken :P thanks
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01:25.59laegEllipsis, Avrys: ty i'll check those out
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01:39.01Parnicsee the problem with GetSpellInfo is that i need the spell ID to work off of if i want it to be locale-agnostic, as far as I can tell
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01:39.19Parnicand if i only care about, for example, "Shackle Undead" (regardless of the rank), then name is my best bet
01:39.19Parnicso if i use name, i have loc problems. if i use id, i have rank problems
01:39.24Parnicbabble-spell seems like the happy medium
01:39.40lifetaptGetSpellInfo returns the spell's name as well as the id
01:39.50Parnicgetspellinfo wants one or the other as an argument
01:40.16lifetaptAre you trying to detect the spell in the combat log?
01:40.34dylanmYeah what are you trying to do
01:41.02Parnici have a module that will create a timer bar showing you time left on a specific CC
01:41.29Parnicand i have a list of CC's that are supported since i don't want to catch everything
01:41.29CIA-4403seppyk * r77354 10HeadCount/ (19 files in 2 dirs):
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01:41.29CIA-44- Added configurable attendance delay so users can get increased performance at the cost of attendance accuracy
01:41.29CIA-44- Initial run at cleaning up namespace issues.
01:41.29dylanmUse the spellId. What's the problem?
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01:41.33lifetaptSpellID is unique for different ranks of a spell.
01:41.54Parnicright
01:41.58Parnici think i can work with it though :) i'm good
01:41.58dylanmIt's probably worth it to collect those.
01:42.02CIA-4403ulic * r77355 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: Added Headless Horseman & Ahune
01:42.19dylanmRather than loading Babble. Someone's likely done it already.
01:42.47ArrowmasterParnic: look up the spellid on wowhead
01:43.00Parnicyeah i know, i just have a long list of spells
01:43.04lifetaptHeh
01:43.15Parnicthe names are already in, so i was trying to avoid extra work. it's np though :) thanks
01:43.18lifetaptI'm going through and adding the spellID for every classes spell to a list
01:43.33lifetaptI have a longer list of spells :P
01:43.45Parnicthen you have more patience than i :)
01:43.47lifetaptBut it works for every localization
01:44.32dylanmFor instance: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Threat-2.0/Threat-2.0/ClassModules/Priest.lua
01:45.25Arrowmasterno rank problems
01:45.44dylanmParnic: ↑ that help?
01:46.11Parnicyeah, i figured out how to use the spell ID's, i'm just not excited about listing the ID for each rank of a spell
01:46.13Parnicbut i understand the concept
01:46.15Arrowmasterno its not
01:46.35Arrowmasterits dead
01:46.51Arrowmasterdont use it
01:46.57ArrowmasterGetSpellInfo(9484) will give you the localized name for Shackle Undead
01:46.59Parnici'm not.
01:47.03Arrowmasterdoesnt matter
01:47.05Arrowmasterthe name is still the same
01:47.07Arrowmasterif you arent using the combatlog then it doesnt matter at all
01:47.11Arrowmasteryes we have
01:47.15Arrowmasterwe use GetSpellInfo
01:47.17Arrowmasterso?
01:47.19Arrowmasterits not extra work
01:47.21Arrowmasterwheres the code at
01:47.23Arrowmasterso i can see exactly
01:47.25Arrowmasterthats different since its for the combatlog only
01:47.27Arrowmasteryou dont
01:47.28CIA-4403lifetapt * r77356 10YouWereKilledBy/ (. YouWereKilledBy.toc):
01:47.28CIA-44YouWereKilledBy:
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01:47.31dylanmHeh I'm just seeing a wall of Arrowmaster.
01:47.31Arrowmasterunless your using the combatlog which you didnt say yet if you were
01:47.33Arrowmasterthen you dont need more than 1 rank
01:47.38Arrowmasterhttp://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/XRS/XRS.lua
01:47.41dylanmI'm guessing this is what a split feels like.
01:47.41Arrowmasterlook at the onenable
01:47.42Parnicyeah so am i :P
01:47.44Parniclol
01:47.54Arrowmasteran i desynced?
01:47.58Parnicyou were :P
01:48.01Parnici think you're fine now
01:48.05Arrowmasterah
01:48.06Parnicwe just got caught up on everything
01:48.12Arrowmasterno wonder it seemed like you were ignoring me
01:48.12Ackiswall of arrowmaster crits you for 9030, you die
01:48.15Parnicand you're right, i understand what you were saying
01:48.30Parnicthat's a much better idea
01:48.31dylanmOh I assumed you were doing clog.
01:48.48Arrowmasterhow big was this wall?
01:48.51lifetaptAhh I see what you're saying arrowmaster
01:48.53lifetaptabout 10 lines
01:48.55Parnic15-ish messages in a row? :P
01:48.57Arrowmasterlol
01:49.54Arrowmasteryes bask in the glory of the simplicity of the onenable in http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/XRS/XRS.lua that Ackis fucked up more times than we can count
01:50.06Arrowmaster=D
01:50.52AckisArrowmaster: what?!?! I just missed 1 buff
01:51.02Arrowmasterlol
01:51.04Parnichaha
01:52.02Arrowmasteryes and our MT was asking me for a week why xrs kept saying the warriors and rogues were missing int
01:52.02Ackishelps w/ weapon skill?
01:52.12Ackisbrb brut
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02:35.16CIA-4403cbenny * r77357 10FuBar_PoisonReminderFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_PoisonReminderFu.toc Updates.lua): FuBar_PoisonReminderFu: updated for 2.4 combatlog changes (patch by sid67)
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02:43.54zespri_workin ace 3 many a libs start with something similar to
02:44.06zespri_worklocal type = type
02:44.07zespri_worklocal pairs, next = pairs, next
02:44.07zespri_worklocal rawget, rawset = rawget, rawset
02:44.07zespri_worklocal setmetatable = setmetatable
02:44.20zespri_workI understand what it does, can someone tell me what it's for?
02:45.01starlonlocal lookup is faster than global
02:45.16Gnarfozoveroptimazation, in many cases, trying to save cpu time is the general idea
02:45.16zespri_workthat faster???
02:45.27zespri_workright, ok thanks.
02:45.41Funkeh`lol
02:46.03starlonface it, you're a Guest
02:46.07ulicGuest95862: get a new irc client or something
02:46.07Funkeh`i wouldnt say in most cases, in some yeah.
02:46.51Funkeh`it's only really worthwhile for things called often
02:47.56zespri_workwell logically locals are on stack, and globals you need to access via index in the globals table, so logically locals are faster, but It's not that obvious that these few tacts are so critical
02:48.34zespri_worknever mind, I got the idea =)
02:49.23dylanmIt's probably worth it if you're calling something a lot. OnUpdates and the like are fine places to fuss about that sort of thing.
02:49.37Funkeh`indeed
02:49.51Arrowmasterand CLEU
02:50.18zespri_worktrue. that I would agree with.
02:50.24Funkeh`i.e. 'things called often' ;p
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02:51.51Gnarfozloops!
02:51.58Gnarfozalso, my server is going down in 10 minutes :<
02:52.13Funkeh`Guest20943, either fix that or leave the channel
02:53.26Arrowmasterits probably a script trying to take back his nick but hes not identified
02:53.52zespri_workis this that bad to be called GuestNNNNN?
02:54.24Funkeh`looks more like hes changing hes nick to something retarded when hes client is 'away'
02:55.16genetiknot away
02:55.19CIA-4403parnic * r77358 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc modules/FocusCC.lua modules/TargetCC.lua):
02:55.19CIA-44IceHUD:
02:55.19CIA-44- fixed CC bars to work for any loc by using GetSpellInfo along with a list of spell ID's for each CC spell it supports (thanks to Arrowmaster/#wowace for the help!)
02:55.19CIA-44- made FocusCC basically an empty shell that just inherits from TargetCC and specifies a different unit (should have done this in the first place...)
02:55.21CIA-44- cleaned spacing/formatting in TargetCC module
02:55.22genetikjust weird
02:55.23CIA-4403gamefaq * r77359 10AutoBar/Locale-deDE.lua: AutoBar : Redone deDE Local (around 80% is new) and changed Format to UTF-8
02:55.29zespri_workI've seen this same on another server with my own nick, and I think that was the irc server and not a client that would change your nick
02:56.00Arrowmasteryeah it is for registered nicks if your dont identify
02:56.03zespri_workbasicaly the server gives you some courtesy time to identify yourself and when timeout is elapsed it forces your nick to be GuestNNNN
02:56.07genetik-feel free to kick if that happens again..
02:56.15Arrowmasteralthough i thought that was optional and off by default on freenode
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02:58.57Diaoi think it is optional
02:59.00Diaomost servers it is
03:02.27Gnarfozeu servers offline, the remainder of them
03:02.30Gnarfoz:\
03:02.54zespri_workpop on US one =)
03:03.03Gnarfozsure, like that's possible
03:03.22zespri_workif you do have an account, why not?
03:03.30zespri_workI don't think it matters where you live
03:03.31Gnarfozerr
03:03.45Gnarfozthat'd have to be an US account, then
03:03.49zespri_worksure
03:04.09zespri_workthat's what I meant
03:04.20Gnarfozwhich I don't have, otherwise I wouldn't have whined about EU servers being down for the next 6 hours :>
03:04.40zespri_workit's a shame =)
03:05.37Gnarfozonly because I can't post on US UI forum because of it ;)
03:05.39zespri_workI used to play woth my friend from europe on an US server - no problem what so ever. Of couse we had to get him an US accaunt
03:06.08Gnarfozalso, 200ms+ latency instead of 12ms latency is kind of a change ;p
03:06.51zespri_workwell, yeah, but you see, I'm personally from new zealand I've never seen less then 200ms in my life
03:06.59CIA-4403parnic * r77360 10IceHUD/modules/GlobalCoolDown.lua:
03:06.59CIA-44IceHUD:
03:06.59CIA-44- fixed GCD module to work in all localizations
03:06.59CIA-44- also cleaned up space/tab formatting
03:07.12zespri_workthat is until the oceanic servers went up
03:07.35Gnarfozwhich are hosted at the exact same locations as the other US servers, last I heard? ^^
03:08.53zespri_workNo idea. I hadn't played for 2 years up until last month, so now when I play I ocasionally see green, which I've never seen before. May be NZ Telecom has fixed somwething, I don;t know
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03:13.25Gary13579Is there a plugin/whatever for BigWigs to add DBM like responses to whispers?
03:13.41Gary13579Because I love BigWigs so much, but I really really miss that feature.
03:14.01Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, did you know what tool to use, and where the minimap textures are located ?
03:14.14Funkeh`you mean like simplebosswhisperer
03:14.27ArrowmasterPoul|Raider: what is your goal
03:14.28ulicGary13579: BossWhisper or something, yea what Funkeh` said
03:14.41Gary13579thanks ^^
03:14.49Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, i would like to try extract the textures and create a map over a zone
03:16.07ArrowmasterPoul|Raider: ok grab cart3 and look in its scripts dir
03:16.22Poul|Raiderohh, oki
03:16.53Arrowmasterckknight created lua scripts for making sense of the md5translate.trs file
03:17.26ckknightwaves
03:17.53Arrowmasterand even includes hardcoded stuff such as 'local f = io.open("/Users/ckknight/wmo/" .. map .. ".wmo", "rb")'
03:18.02ckknight*thumbs up*
03:18.16Poul|Raiderhmm
03:18.24Poul|Raideri dint make much sense of that :(
03:18.41Arrowmasterckknight: do your cart3 ones include the comments like the cart2 one?
03:18.49ckknightnope
03:19.34Fisker-slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout
03:20.04Poul|Raiderbut does io.open work from within wow?
03:20.09ArrowmasterPoul|Raider: well the cart2 instancemap script prints out comments too with x,y loc and stuff like that
03:20.17Gnarfozno? it's for being run outside ^^
03:20.17ArrowmasterPoul|Raider: no those are standalone lua scripts
03:20.23Poul|Raideroki
03:20.32GnarfozPoul|Raider: if you don't need it ingame, just use wowmapper to create an image of whatever zone you need
03:20.35Arrowmasterbut you have to extract a bunch of stuff from the mpq's
03:20.59Poul|Raiderwowmapper? a tool
03:21.21Gnarfozyes
03:21.25ckknightPoul|Raider: what's this for?
03:21.45Gnarfozhttp://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php?title=Wowmapper
03:22.14Poul|Raidermore or less waht Gnarfoz said, i would like to extract a zone from the minimap details as a bitmap or something
03:22.47Poul|Raiderbut gonna take a look at your lua scripts.
03:23.41Poul|Raidercan i find it at http://files.wowace.com/ or do i need to get it from the svn?
03:25.02Poul|Raiderhttp://files.wowace.com/Cartographer/Cartographer-r77300.3.zip is that cart3 ?
03:25.17Gnarfozno
03:25.39Gnarfozthis is: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/
03:25.55CIA-4403apoco * r77361 10RBM_AbilityWatch/RBM_AbilityWatch.lua: RBM_AbilityWatch: - Fixing a potential error that should never occur anyways.
03:25.58Gnarfozor this, however you see it: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/12701/ ;)
03:26.50Poul|Raideroki thx
03:28.12Arrowmasterlooks like theres more comments for me to vote down
03:30.08Arrowmasterckknight: theres no way in hell your making new versions of a most the cart2 modules right?
03:30.29ckknightum, why wouldn't I?
03:30.38Arrowmasteri ment most the 'extra' ones
03:30.43Arrowmasterthat are all abandoned by now
03:30.56ckknightshrugs
03:31.08ckknightwe'll see
03:31.10Arrowmasterlike the gathering ones
03:31.15ckknightoh, likely yes
03:31.18Arrowmasterboo
03:31.19CIA-4403nemes * r77362 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua:
03:31.20CIA-44NDragIt:
03:31.20CIA-44- allow repositioning of panels such as Auction, Quest Log, Loot frame
03:31.20CIA-44- /nfi now shows entire frame stack
03:31.30Arrowmasterwe dont need more addons that do the same thing
03:31.43CIA-4403parnic * r77363 10IceHUD/ (IceHUD.toc embeds.xml libs/ modules/DruidMana.lua):
03:31.43CIA-44IceHUD:
03:31.43CIA-44- removed LibGratuity-2.0 (or GratuityLib, whichever you wanna call it) since
03:31.43CIA-44only the DruidMana module used it and even then only if the user didn't have
03:31.43CIA-44LibDruidMana installed. now LibDruidMana is required instead of falling back to
03:31.44CIA-44Gratuity...the Gratuity method was broken for powershifting anyway
03:31.51ckknightyea, but I have my own ideas for it
03:32.40Ackisbattletoads!
03:32.46Ackisi need to pee
03:32.58ckknightbattletoads was the hardest fucking game ever
03:33.06elite3vilI love that game.
03:33.19ckknightthe racing thing was bullshit
03:33.32elite3villol.
03:34.36CIA-4403ulic * r77364 10LittleWigs/ (3 files in 2 dirs): LittleWigs: CFR - Added Ahune
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03:36.32Ackisi just went pee!
03:36.38ulicin your pants?
03:36.47Ackisno
03:36.51ulicok, good
03:39.28Arrowmasterckknight: i havent actually used cart3 for a while since its still in dev, but did you add POIs and stuff?
03:39.48ckknightArrowmaster: only pois currently are player, group, and guild
03:39.50aestilhi guysh
03:40.00aestilinstance maps ckk?
03:40.05ckknightyes, instance maps
03:40.06Arrowmasterckknight: so Anaral is just an idiot then
03:40.16ckknightArrowmaster: *shrug*
03:40.16aestilinstance loot?
03:40.25Arrowmasterckknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/42-additional-poi/
03:40.47ckknightthat's a good ticket
03:41.14Arrowmasterseems to be talking about a completely different addon
03:41.39BasementCatwow @ felmyst
03:41.45BasementCatencaps on the same rogue
03:41.47BasementCat4 times
03:41.56BasementCatwow easy to heal!
03:42.39Ackisckknight: keylogger
03:42.47ckknighttruth
03:42.54ckknightlogs Ackis' keys
03:43.05Ackisahhhh
03:43.52Ackisman i've had gas for like the last 5 hours
03:43.53Dashkalwould you really want to sneak into a guild where his discussions of his boxers are accepted?
03:44.18Ackismy guild > your guild!
03:44.28DashkalMine is playing ozy over vent
03:44.53Ackisi sing
03:44.59Ackis"you've lost that lovin feeling"
03:45.00Dashkalflees in terror
03:45.10DashkalMind you, I just butchered a few songs in rock band over the weekend
03:45.15DashkalEven /I/ was cringing
03:46.01Ackisanus clenched
03:46.02Ackis?
03:47.28DashkalYeah, not answering that one...
03:47.55Ackisawww
03:48.04kenlyriche means his anus is no longer capable of clenching
03:48.54DashkalThat's your fault, kenlyric.  I told you to slow down last night but noooooo
03:49.41vithoslol, second time i've d/c'ed during felmyst while calling breaths and we still don't wipe
03:49.45Ackiscan you feel yourself poo?
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04:00.01pakozhow do i get different skins for pitbull?
04:00.40Diaoskins?
04:00.43Diaolike bar textures?
04:00.47pakozya sry
04:00.58pakozbar textures, i only have the blizzard option at the moment
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04:01.16ckknightpakoz: get SharedMedia
04:02.06VonhintenHOME`Anyone know if T4 tokens still hand in for S1 ?
04:02.47elite3vilI was wondering that too
04:02.56elite3vildidn't ever get around to checking
04:03.31pakozperfect, thx ckk
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04:05.53pakozOo, i like Outline and Runes
04:06.47pakozhttp://img258.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot062408200049vy1.jpg
04:07.17pakozanyone recognize that compilation?
04:07.42Ackis346 defense on a level 8?
04:08.11pakozfire festival food
04:08.32ckknight390 defense total :-P
04:09.20pakozso any idea on the bartexture or the addon compilation?
04:10.31pakozits pitbull/prat/otherstuff
04:12.46Gnarfozwhy don't you ask where you got the link, too :>
04:13.01CIA-4403ackis * r77365 10Incubator/Core.lua:
04:13.01CIA-44Incubator:
04:13.01CIA-44- Add 25851, --Volatile Fiend to twins reset timers
04:14.12pakozbecause he can't remember
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04:14.43pakozbecause he can't remember (resending for server split)
04:16.50Poul|Raiderckknight, io.open("md5translate.trs", "r") what is that md5translate.trs ?
04:16.59ckknightPoul|Raider: it's in the mpq
04:17.09Poul|Raiderohh
04:18.02aestilsorry, ckk, did you say there was instance loot as well?
04:18.15ckknightaestil: no I did not
04:18.19aestilah.
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04:21.08CIA-4403daviesh * r77366 10AtlasLoot/ (DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua TableRegister/loottables.en.lua):
04:21.08CIA-44AtlasLoot:
04:21.08CIA-44- Assorted bugfixes
04:23.57durcynAckis: wrong
04:31.23CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77367 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
04:31.23CIA-44LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0:
04:31.23CIA-44- Vastly improved builder, sets are moved to a separate file for ease of updating
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04:36.30phawxif Craftlist2 is showing in the AddOn List...but /clist2 isnt working in game...should i uninstall and delete saved variables?
04:39.28Arrowmasterare you getting any errors?
04:42.49phawxno.
04:42.56phawxother then the /clist2 command doesnt exist
04:42.59Arrowmasteroh
04:43.05phawxjust the standard type /help for commands
04:43.06Arrowmasterdo /ace2 enable craftlist2
04:43.34phawxsec. updating
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04:43.47Arrowmastercraftlist2 is stupid and doesnt register its chat commands until onenable
04:44.01phawxO_o
04:45.01Zhinjioguh
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04:52.51CIA-4403odlaw * r77368 10PassLoot/PassLoot.lua: PassLoot: Don't try to iterate through modules that are disabled.
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05:08.17BasementCatboth tanks died at 10%
05:08.20BasementCatweaaak
05:09.23Arrowmaster01:08:53> [Your] Conflagrate missed [Glissia-Llane]. (Reflected)
05:09.23Arrowmaster01:08:53> [Your] Conflagrate hit [You] 3246 Fire. (Critical)
05:09.30Arrowmasterthats just not right =(
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05:22.10GnarfozArrowmaster: haha ^^ mage or warrior? ^^
05:22.30Arrowmasterthat reflected? warrior
05:22.41Gnarfoznice
05:22.57Arrowmasterthat should so fail since i didnt have immolate on me
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05:25.28Diaolol
05:25.36Diaospellreflect is fun
05:25.41Diaowhen you can use it
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05:35.54Arrowmasterafter doing some bgs i looked in addonspamfu and wow people fail, so many DBM users and even somebody with Threat-1.0 still
05:41.36aestilpeople are stupiid, yes.
05:41.53aestilone guy told me that his guild uses dbm because big wigs didn't do VR correctly.
05:41.59aestilthis was like, 4 weeks ago.
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06:53.55CIA-44- Update zhTW localization.
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06:55.27CIA-44Mendeleev:
06:55.27CIA-44- Added Headless Horseman & Ahune.
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07:24.52CIA-44- koKR Update
07:25.24ramozdigmouse: pretty boring
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07:30.09CIA-44LittleWigs:
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07:35.58digmouseramoz: ya, I'm bored
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07:39.00ramozshould give some hints!
07:39.01ramozliek
07:39.09ramozwhats the icons under the ice! :O
07:39.32KazieWhat are you refering to? :9
07:39.34Kazie:)
07:40.14hastethe blizzard splash I guess
07:40.18KazieAhh
07:40.34KazieWell... they have been identified as runes and mached to the runes on frostmourne
07:41.06durcyntold ya.
07:42.15KazieIt's prolly just ANOTHER announcement of their frostmourne price shit... getting bored of hearing about WoTLK/S2 and frostmourne all the time only :s
07:42.50ramozI hope its the releasedate for WotLK!
07:43.03ramozguess the Diablo 3 rumoures are wrong
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07:43.11Xinhuan~botmail
07:43.13KazieOne can only hope.. but then again
07:43.26KaziePpl have denied that the splash could be about D3.. however..
07:43.49AeyanI dunno why that's such a stir
07:43.56Xinhuan~seen NightHawkTheSane
07:43.58purlnighthawkthesane is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 1h 32m 35s, last said: '><'.
07:44.14AeyanIt's a ice themed splash page on worldofwarcraft.com with a ice themed expansion coming out in the near future =P
07:44.14KazieBlizzard have put interessted into Diablo3.com by contacting the owners and requested to buy it.. furthermore since ppl deny it from D2 and Ice not matching they have to take into consideration that the whole of Act5 in D2 is more or less ice and snow.
07:44.32AeyanToo much thought involved, hehe
07:44.50AeyanIf it's any big 'release', I'd lean more towards something like WotLK cinematic
07:45.00ramozI thought Blizzard owned Diablo3.com
07:45.10ramozthey just redirected it to the diablofan or whatever
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07:45.38Xinhuan~botmail for NightHawkTheSane: Look in the options, its already there, in a dropdown list box to select which guildbanks to include in the tooltips
07:45.46KazieNo, Diablo3.com is privately owned and is a fansite, blizzard wants to buy it tho. just imagin the insane price they'd be willing to pay lawl :P better buy Starcraft3.com and worldofstarcraft.com :D haha
07:46.25profalberthttp://i27.tinypic.com/dcej5w.jpg
07:46.31Arrowmastercant they just register the trademark then take it over
07:46.43KalrothUhm, Blizzard owns diablo3.com now, they got it for free from the person that registered it.
07:47.12Kalrothprofalbert: I don't get it
07:47.13ramozyeah, i think what Kalroth says is true
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07:47.17ramozprofalbert: me neither
07:47.27profalberthe is showing a film for the audience on this laptop
07:47.35ramozis it porn?
07:47.49profalbertthank god no. That would be a miss ;)
07:48.18profalbertHe was unable to get the projector working
07:48.35ramozalso, i read that when blizzard bought a domain for the fellow that owned diablo3.com and agreed to redirect it to his new site until there was some real news
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07:48.45ramozand they have removed the redirect now (!)
07:49.15durcyni heard that if you relax and wait a month it won't matter anyway
07:49.25ramoz*relax*
07:49.34ramozhttp://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7199
07:49.44ramozHere's the whole story, morning glory!
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07:55.50Dwarikdiablo3.com is pointing nowhere atm
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07:59.30digmousethe first 2 runes are Shael and Hel
07:59.40digmouseand the one on ice3 is Protoss Logo
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08:04.42Kazieramoz: Tbh.. the dude who formerly owned diablo3.com is a fool, he could have made a fat deal with Blizzard even without any money involved. But afaik. you cannot register a trademark after a site of that name already exists and then claim it. but who am i to know such things.. i'm not a lawyer :D
08:07.03KalrothHe would have been a fool if he tried to squeeze Blizzard in any way. He had zero legal rights to the domain, Blizzard could easily take it from him.
08:07.26durcynno, trademarks have no prior art restriction, but once registered they must be enforced or abandoned
08:07.49durcynand a domain name does not a trademark make
08:08.10KalrothSure, but the enforcement doesn't have to be instantly
08:08.15Kalrothit's ok to wait 1-2 years
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08:08.27durcyntacit acceptance of infringement is grounds for invalidation
08:08.52KalrothThe faster, the better, but a private person having a domain for 2 years does not invalidate Blizzards case
08:09.07durcynalso correct, but domain != trademark
08:09.09KalrothEspecially not when he have used it as a fan site for the upcoming game
08:09.27KalrothIt is once Blizzard registers it for the game :)
08:10.07durcyna person or company may hold a trademark on something that they or another party registers a domain for, and the UDRP is pretty clear about precedence
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08:10.35durcynbut you're still confusing domain registration with trademark registration.  ICANN and the USPTO are separate entities
08:10.53KalrothUse some logical sense. Do you really think a judge would rule in favor of the fan?
08:11.07KalrothIf it came to that.
08:11.18durcynin this case, yes, as he held the domain for multiple years before blizzard attempted to register the trademark
08:11.25durcynand it's not up to a judge, that's what the UDRP is for
08:11.47TNSehe gave it up because blizzard probably promised to let him have good contact if/when d3 comes :P
08:12.05TNSeand as a fan thats a good selling point imo.
08:12.23durcynyeah, i'm impressed that blizzard settled it so amicably
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08:12.24Kalroth"Diablo: 1996 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. All rights reserved. Diablo and Blizzard Entertainment are trademarks or registered trademarks of Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. in the U.S. and/or other countries."
08:12.26|Kev|I'd give up a domain for a D3 beta :)
08:12.29TNSelike if you owned www.wrathofthelichking.com
08:12.34KalrothWhen was Diablo3.com registered? :)
08:12.44TNSeand blizz said "WE WANT YOU GET BETA ACCESS (but gotta NDA)"
08:12.59TNSeor rather F&F Alpha + beta etc :P
08:13.00durcyn<PROTECTED>
08:13.25KalrothSo Diablo3 is around 2 years older than Diablo
08:13.54durcynthough saying that diablo3.com falls within the trademark on the diablo game is disingenuous.. now if he were trying to sell a video game called diablo 3, that would be clear infringement
08:14.36Kalrothbut the website is about diablo
08:14.54Kalrothit's not like he bought diablo3.com and make it about sex in red rubber tights
08:15.15hiflyerhe didn't? no use going there then :(
08:15.34Kalrothhe bought diablo3.com and made it about blizzards diablo
08:15.50durcyni still disagree that it's direct violation of their trademark.. and i wager that it would have been difficult to dispute his ownership of it through said UDRP
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08:16.02durcynit's trademark, not copyright
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08:16.34durcyneither way, it's a matter of opinion at this point, seeing as it didn't go into UDRP deliberation
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08:17.14KalrothI'm not a lawyer, so I got no detailed knowledge of that part of the law, I just applied some common sense.
08:17.23KalrothI guess that's a waste on the US system though. :P
08:17.34cladhairethats only valid when the system in question makes sense
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08:17.42durcyncommon sense and US patent/trademark/copyright law do not belong in the same thought
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08:18.46CodayusIt's not a violation of their trademark, btw.
08:18.51CodayusUnless he's using it in commerce.
08:19.00CodayusWell.
08:19.16CodayusMIGHT not have been.  Ad supported fan sites...are tricky.
08:20.04CodayusIf he was using it to advertise a competing Diablo-like dungeon crawler, it's automatic lose though; that's what the law is intended to stop.
08:21.27CodayusAlso needs to be used in a way likely to confuse consumers.  A fan site really shouldn't ever do that; you get some weird results sometimes though.
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08:30.33Pkekyo|~time
08:30.34purlsomebody said time was 1 dimensional, or everlasting, an illusion, or 2008.06.25  8:30:34 GMT
08:35.20CIA-4403starlon * r77381 10CombatAlarm/CombatAlarm.lua:
08:35.21CIA-44CombatAlarm:
08:35.21CIA-44- Fixed a race condition in the search feature
08:35.21CIA-44- Made some tweaks to how the search textbox deals with UI events
08:39.45syerenpastamancer: poke!
08:40.56Diskmaster>_>
08:40.57Diskmaster<_<
08:41.00Diskmaster~time CDT
08:41.18Diskmaster...
08:41.29Diskmasterwtb [Timezone display for purl] pst
08:41.48durcynsubtracting five from eight is difficult.
08:42.10DiskmasterNot really, just lazy. :P
08:42.29Diskmasteruname -a in a console
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08:58.23Aens|Superiorityhow do you add a font to sharedmedia?  Just drop it in the font folder or is there something more involved?
08:59.40durcynlook at the mymedia readme
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09:02.00Aens|Superiorityah, ok.  Was looking through the 5 or 6 shared media addon folders i had.
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09:08.12ktwoplanned server uptime still 11.00 or did they change already?
09:10.29odtyeah, +2
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09:11.13CIA-44- zhCN update.
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09:26.46CIA-44- Brutallus: Fix missing next Burn
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09:46.29Pkekyo|Burger King...the cornerstone of any nutricious breakfeast
09:46.49Zyndrome*bread&butter*
09:47.33Pkekyo|lolwut, I've been driving for 25 minutes, and the burger is still warm as hell :p
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09:47.54CIA-44- IDs for new Brewfest items
09:49.43Zyndromeactually, I havn't had anything to eat yet... it's toast-time!
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09:49.49Pkekyo|kek
09:51.42VulcanusI demand eu realms :(
09:52.03Pkekyo|I demand touching yourself
09:52.42Pkekyo|that came out wrong
09:53.15VulcanusI might just do that as Im bored
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09:58.56Poul|Raideranyone remember the link to where the client get the text for when logging in. status messages etc?
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10:04.37haste~alert
10:04.37purlI'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons...
10:04.51hastetoo early, can't remember D:
10:08.48Arrowmasterstart wireshark, start wow.....
10:09.20Zyndromeget greeted with only Bloodscalp in the serverlist, offline of course
10:09.29Zyndromeclose WoW, sigh, wait
10:09.42Arrowmastergoogle says http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert
10:09.56Arrowmasterbut i get a blank page
10:10.56digmouseis PTR available for EU accounts?
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10:24.55Drundiaeu maintenance failed
10:25.12Drundiaor actually bringing servers back....
10:25.37Drundiafefese should have been online for 1.5 hours already
10:31.45philosoundany UnitBuff Veteran around?
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10:32.13CIA-4403Copystring * r77385 10YurrCombatLog/Core.lua:
10:32.13CIA-44YurrCombatLog:
10:32.13CIA-44- fix nil line 3987
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10:45.29Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, that might be true, it was blank a little hour ago for me to ingame
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10:46.24Poul|Raiderhmm http://launcher.wow-europe.com/en/
10:47.08Poul|Raiderhttp://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert
10:47.11Poul|Raiderthere it was for eu
10:49.32Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, know anything about .mpq files, found a opensource c# commandline tool for browsing them, but its saying it dont contains any listfiles
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10:50.09Drundiaof course other servers from the same data center and battlegroup are already up, but sylvanas still sleeps....
10:51.14Drundiameh, this stupid game requires to be restarted too much to work properly....
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10:58.38hasteonce every three weeks or so?
10:58.51hastenot like those 7 hours of no WoW will kill you anyway
11:00.17CIA-4403pettigrow * r77386 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Ahune.lua: LittleWigs: frFR Update
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11:02.57CIA-44YurrCombatLog:
11:02.57CIA-44- bug fix for last commit
11:04.50CIA-44037destiny * r77388 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/ (15 files):
11:04.50CIA-44BigWigs_Naxxramas:
11:04.50CIA-44- Kelthuzad: 2.4 updates
11:04.50CIA-44- add guids
11:04.50CIA-44- koKR Update
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11:26.29CIA-44AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP:
11:26.29CIA-44- old items removed
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11:28.58CIA-4403daviesh * r77391 10AtlasLoot/Core/ButtonRegistry.lua:
11:28.58CIA-44AtlasLoot:
11:28.58CIA-44- Fixed a typo
11:30.53Pkekyo|HEEEEEEELP
11:30.54Pkekyo|there's a priest downstairs :/
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11:37.53ncd|Aileenfix your freaking connection ._.
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11:38.35Ozguli`Pkekyo| find a rogue
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11:40.26hastethe work connection isn't working TE_HE_HE_HE_HE_HE
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11:40.38haste<insert godly boredom>
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11:45.32sylvanaarlol
11:45.42sylvanaarim not even at work
11:46.07sylvanaar<3 [Ammo]
11:46.14[Ammo]well something is spamming :p
11:46.21sylvanaari know
11:46.26SunTigerspamming badly
11:46.29sylvanaarsorry
11:46.29[Ammo]but the quick ban unban fixed it :)
11:46.40sylvanaarim going to work now
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11:47.07SunTigerthere it is again
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11:48.29[Ammo]he'll message me if he wants to get back I hope :p
11:48.44hasteno, he won't!
11:48.49hastebecause your name is so hard to remember D:
11:48.56[Ammo]:)
11:48.57Kalrothmassage*
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12:06.58Pkekyo|what do the politiciants call stuff like graffiti, randomly trashing city property etc?
12:07.15harldephindoes anyone know how to access the comments of qComments with nQuestLog?
12:07.52harldephinPkekyo|: terrorism? ;)
12:08.07Pkekyo|harldephin: no,  when kids do it
12:08.29harldephinthey're evil kids, so it's terrorism.
12:08.34Pkekyo|aw comeon
12:08.39harldephini don't know
12:08.49Pkekyo|terrorism is what the US gvt. is upto :p
12:08.59Pkekyo|pisses off half the channel once again
12:09.48Pkekyo|vandalism
12:10.24harldephinwell, not me for certain.
12:10.38harldephinvandalism. ok..
12:16.54Lukiandoes Chatter have a module to filter out people repeating themself?
12:17.05LukianIf not, I'd like to suggest it!
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12:22.44cncfanaticsLukian: that would rock
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12:32.30CIA-4403ananhaid * r77392 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Ahune.lua:
12:32.30CIA-44LittleWigs:
12:32.30CIA-44- Ahune zhCN update.
12:32.30CIA-44- BTW:the koKR locale was the utf8? maybe isn't
12:35.03winkillerLukian: can have problems. i.e. in raids the people without mic tend to respond to questions posed on TS like this:
12:35.13winkilleryes\n yes\n no\n no\n
12:35.30Lukianer
12:35.35Lukianbut those are different people..
12:35.40winkillerno
12:35.51Lukianwell add a small timer?
12:35.52winkillerfew without mic :P those who answer
12:36.03winkilleryea ok., maybe a theoretical case
12:36.12winkillergoes silent
12:36.21cncfanaticspeople that say the exact same phrase more then once every 5 sec and are not in your guild/raid/group get filtered
12:36.22cncfanaticsproblem solved
12:37.12winkillernice idea
12:37.13winkiller+1
12:37.15CIA-4403wang * r77393 10NDragIt/NDragIt.lua:
12:37.15CIA-44NDragIt:
12:37.15CIA-44- zhCN update
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12:49.29CIA-44037destiny * r77394 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Ahune.lua:
12:49.29CIA-44LittleWigs:
12:49.29CIA-44- fix koKR utf8
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13:31.04Zotaxhello there, new here
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13:31.51Zotaxthnx i think
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13:54.57Dark_Elfpeople cant figure these blizzard images out, the last time they did the images they did each of their games 1 day at a time, and at the end they introduced the new game
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13:55.41Dark_Elfwow, diablo 2 and starcraft have been represented so far in the 3 days
13:56.12Megalonso it's gonna be a new The Lost Vikings!
13:57.40Dark_Elfworld of diablo
13:57.52hasterealm of the vikings
13:57.56Dark_Elflol
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14:03.12CIA-4403ananhaid * r77395 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-GearSet/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-GearSet.lua:
14:03.12CIA-44LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
14:03.13CIA-44- add Arena Season 4 GearSet.
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14:04.09CIA-4403ananhaid * r77396 10Mendeleev/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
14:04.09CIA-44Mendeleev:
14:04.09CIA-44- add Arena Season 4 GearSet.
14:04.19cubicoolIsn't it just going to be the release date for WOTLK?
14:04.24cubicoolBusting through the ice?
14:04.32cubicoolAnd the "runes" are the runes for the DK?
14:05.10Dark_Elffrankly i wouldnt be surprised if it WoW 2
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14:06.44Dark_Elfthat would suck, cause its suppose to be released in november
14:08.59sicacubicool: the runes are runes from starcraft iirc
14:09.05digmouseanother whole night wipe at Bloodboil
14:09.52cubicoolsica: Maybe the SC2 release date then?
14:10.30digmousecubicool: dont agree
14:10.43sicacubicool: I hope so
14:11.11digmouserune Shael, rune Hel, Protoss logo
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14:12.55renchapoops
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14:16.45digmousetanks need to pull bloodboil at a stable position all time?
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14:20.01erikhugh!
14:20.49erikhevery summer I strongly consider lobbying legislature for mandatory year-round schooling
14:21.06cubicoolhaha me too!
14:21.24erikhI just had a 15 minute conversation with some amateur wow kojak accusing me of botting
14:21.41erikhwas using Fishing Buddy w/ Auto Loot, Easy Cast, and Auto Lure
14:21.41cubicoolI live in Atlanta, and there's always a million teenage wannabe hoodlums wandering around during the Summer vacation.
14:21.49Dark_Elflooks likes starcraft 2 was moved up to december dang blizzard must be really cranking it up, xmas sales will be good this year
14:23.13erikhcubicool: yep, and any game I hop into in the generally more mature hours of after 12am and before 3pm turns into a bunch of high-pitched lenny bruce impersonators
14:24.52Dark_Elfcourse gamestop and thier release dates arent very good though, november for wotlk and december for starcraft 2, i can see wotlk being moved up since its in beta, and starcraft 2 has lots of trailers so it could very well be out then too
14:26.34cubicoolThe S4 armor looks like someone threw it together in an afternoon.
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14:27.12erikhheh, the hunter gear looks like samus aran's armor
14:27.23erikhthey probably sicced an intern on it
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14:28.18ZealotOnAStickQuery: good kinds of pie?
14:28.27cubicoolkey lime
14:29.22ZealotOnAStickdigmouse: it helps if they keep him more or less the same position on the ramp.
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14:29.46ZealotOnAStickMoving him too much changes relative ranges, and can cause the wrong people to get bloodboils
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14:32.15AckisWorkmorning ladies
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14:37.36cubicoolINSULT
14:38.10hasteMORE
14:38.23digmousebloodboil ticks on cloths whole night :(
14:38.29cubicoolQUESTIONING OF SEXUAL PREFERENCE
14:39.34CIA-4403next96 * r77398 10YurrCombatLog/Locale-koKR.lua:
14:39.34CIA-44YurrCombatLog:
14:39.34CIA-44- Update locale koKR
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14:41.47ZyndromeFEL RAGE ON *dead* GOD DAMN HEAL HIM YOU MUPPETS
14:41.48Zyndrome:<
14:42.24AckisWorkI use a wireless mouse and my batteries have died on bloodboil twice, and once on felmyst
14:43.00Stanzillacan you drycode battery lifetime?
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14:43.10cubicoolI swear, I don't know what I would without bash.org.
14:43.17AckisWorkStanzilla: ahahah /thwap
14:43.25Stanzilla^^
14:43.41erikhmy issue with wireless mice has always been responsiveness
14:44.02erikhnot having to worry about batteries is a bonus :)
14:44.38AckisWorkmeh I know how to keyboard turn
14:47.35Zyndrome*** Vapor on: Ackis ***
14:47.46Zyndromemeh Vapor:*
14:47.54AckisWorkaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
14:48.51Zyndromecan't wait for this weeks Sunwell-run ... going to be awesome getting 3x Vanquisher of every boss again
14:49.02AckisWorklol
14:49.06ZealotOnAStickOh, don't fucking tell me about it.
14:49.13ZealotOnAStickLast night, four kills . . .
14:49.17AckisWorkit seems everyone has vanq issue's
14:49.31ZealotOnAStickzero dps caster loot, other than conq which was all going offspec.
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14:49.47ZealotOnAStickWe've still not seen a SINGLE drop of the fricking pants from Brutallus.
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14:50.03ZealotOnAStickand we've had precisely 1 single useful DPS caster drop from Twins.
14:50.15ZealotOnAStickin 5 kills (more loot method)
14:50.16AckisWorkwe've had like 4 pally shoulders
14:50.26AckisWorkand I think 2 or 3 pally gloves from muru
14:50.37ZealotOnAStickWe're still working on M'uru.
14:50.49Zyndromewe've had 1 leggings of Brut
14:50.52ZealotOnAStickPartially because we keep getting the SAME SHITE OVER AND OVER from all the other bosses.
14:50.57Zyndromeplate-legs
14:51.02AckisWorkwe've been having attendance issues... lowest KJ was 26% though
14:51.10ZealotOnAStickwe got the plate legs from Brutallus last night.
14:51.10AckisWorkapparently when you hit 25% it becomes easy?
14:51.46ZealotOnAStickour MT took them and turned them into the tanky version.  Felstrength or whatever.
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14:52.30ZealotOnAStickif you look at our guild's DKP site, top 5 has 2 warlocks and 2 shadow priests, because we've all been waiting for crap to drop and haven't looted hardly anything in ages.
14:53.20cubicoolHas anyone here played WAR beta?
14:53.26AckisWorkmy guild is recruiting warlocks :D
14:53.47ZealotOnAStickI'm my guild's Warlock class leader.
14:53.59AckisWorkare you good? :P
14:54.00AckisWorkand horde?
14:54.01AckisWorklol
14:54.12ZealotOnAStickSo, unless I just quit and spend my time doing something else (as between work and raid, I don't have much free time anymore) I'm not going anywhere.
14:54.17ZealotOnAStickI'm good, and horde.
14:54.30ZealotOnAStickDo we still have that profile bot thing in here?
14:54.41philosound_I need some Ace3 hooking strategy advise, anyone veteran here?
14:54.47AckisWorkit's been a while since I've seen it used
14:55.01Zyndromehttp://www.reve-guild.org/dkp/viewitem.php?s=f50ca3ef4dc963df9d36599b1c86dbf3&i=337
14:55.06ZealotOnAStickI don't remember the syntax.
14:55.07Zyndromewe like vanquisher, oh yeah
14:55.16AckisWork!c
14:55.27AckisWork!c us illidan ackis
14:55.43dylanmI need to write an IRC bot. Seems like fun.
14:55.55ZealotOnAStickhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=Tenebra
14:55.55AckisWork!ce us illidan ackis
14:55.58dylanmphilosound_: Might want to just ask your question.
14:56.07ZealotOnAStickOh, Illidan.  'tis PvP, yeah?
14:56.08AckisWork+AckisWork: Ackis, Level 70 Troll Priest (23/38/0). 9681 HP; 12060 Mana; 825 mana regen; 353 mp5; 15 spell crit; 958 +spell dmg; 2537 +heal; 5.78% dodge; 37 shadow resist; +33 all resists;[[ TBR: 980 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3s7xmw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/6s7w7c ][ Updated: Wed Jun 25 06:55:47 2008 EST ]]
14:56.17AckisWorkthe !c sent it to me in a tell
14:56.26ZealotOnAStick!ce us blackhand tenebra
14:56.29selckin!ce eu Azjol-Nerub oxxa
14:56.48ZealotOnAStick!c us blackhand tenebra
14:57.04ZealotOnAStickZealotOnAStick: Tenebra, Level 70 Undead Warlock (0/21/40). 11536 HP; 10037 Mana; 260 mana regen; 287 spell crit; 233 spell hit; 1346 +spell dmg; 134 frost dmg (1480); 187 shadow dmg (1533); 80 fire dmg (1426); 5.24% dodge; 20 resilience; 10 shadow resist (+10); +33 all resists (+10 shadow);[[ TBR: 1583 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/299cp5 ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/2llt2j ][ Updated: Wed Jun 25 06:57:07 2008 EST
14:57.35philosound_well, i have this updatecooldown() function in my main addon which is rawhooked in a module. inside the module function the hooked function is called. now i do need to do basically the same in another module but fear running into problems using multiple rawhooks on one function
14:57.48philosound_i cannot figure out a strategy around that really
14:57.59Zyndrome!ce defias-brotherhood achalita
14:58.21dylanmphilosound_: Hooking your own functions doesn't seem optimal.
14:58.24Zyndrome!ce defias brotherhood achalita
14:58.27Zyndromeoh god what is it :<
14:58.40ZealotOnAStickjust !c and it PMs it to you
14:58.46Zyndrome!c
14:58.50dylanmphilosound_: It should work fine though. Hooking it multiple times, I mean.
14:58.57ZealotOnAStickwell, with the other info.
14:59.01ZealotOnAStickI meant not !ce
14:59.05Zyndrome!c defias brotherhood achalita
14:59.17ZyndromeI have a feeling Im messing up on spaces
14:59.18ZealotOnAStickalso want us or eu first
14:59.19philosound_hm, the original functions shows cd, the module basically overwrites that with duration if totem. would there be a better solution than hooking?
14:59.24Zyndrome!c eu defias brotherhood achalita
14:59.34Zyndrome!c eu defias-brotherhood achalita
14:59.39WoWLuaircBothttp://tinyurl.com/4y52yf Test URL [AckisWork]
14:59.59philosound_hm, might give it a shot then - i supposed some weird infinite loops would arise then
15:00.12ZealotOnAStickohhh, Team Ice.
15:00.15ZealotOnAStickHaha.
15:00.21ZealotOnAStickWari hates you guys.
15:00.21philosound_it´s too hot to think clear here ;)
15:00.29ZealotOnAStick(from Arena)
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15:00.36Zyndromebah screw it, my character sucks testicles anyway
15:00.52AckisWorklol who's wari?
15:01.00AckisWorkand he prolly hates garett?
15:01.59ZealotOnAStickHe our guild's Priest class leader, he's got a 3v3 team that I think made Glad yesterday.
15:02.20ZealotOnAStickand I dunno, I just hear him grumble about Team Ice with regards to the Arena
15:02.25AckisWorklol
15:03.00ZealotOnAStickBlackhand's in Rampage BG as well.
15:03.14dylanmphilosound_: I don't see how you would cause infinite loops. The last hook does its thing and calls the next hook. The next hook does its thing and calls the original.
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15:05.18philosound_i assumed that for posthooking, but with two rawhooks both calling the original i´ve thought it´d go hook1 call original which leads two hook two call original or sth.
15:06.06dylanmThe second RawHook is going to hook the first RawHook. I don't think they're aware of each other.
15:06.18philosound_ic
15:06.43dylanmAceHook only treats it differently if you try to hook a function twice within the same AceHook embedding. Then it will yell at you.
15:06.47philosound_well i give it a try then :) just thought i´d ask before i code something incredibly stupid
15:06.59dylanmI mean the best thing to do it just try it, no?
15:07.13philosound_will do :)
15:07.15DragonWinI have been trying to locate a communication library. My task is that I need to make sure 2 arrays in an addon is in sync, no matter if a user has been offline while changes has occured. My problem is not only the communication, but also data integrity, to ensure all are up to date. Is there a library that can help keep 2 arrays in sync across multible users ?
15:07.19dylanm*is
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15:07.31dylanmPreferably during a really important progression raid.
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15:12.49cncfanaticsnot yet
15:12.56cncfanaticsDashkal is working on something like that for nexus I think
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15:27.01CIA-4403toadkiller * r77400 10AutoBar/Core.lua:
15:27.02CIA-44AutoBar:
15:27.02CIA-44-- Fix crasher trying to invoke skinning with no ButtonFacade mod around.
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15:28.30Funkeh`omg
15:28.42Funkeh`locks and mages got a massive buff
15:28.52Funkeh`and priests didnt
15:28.55Funkeh`gg blizz
15:29.21Funkeh`Demon Skin, Demon Armor, and Fel Armor are no longer Magic effects and cannot be dispelled.
15:29.27Matrix110"massive"
15:29.33Funkeh`Frost Armor, Ice Armor, Mage Armor, and Molten Armor are no longer Magic effects and cannot be dispelled.
15:29.39Funkeh`um, inner fire?
15:30.08Funkeh`guess you don't duel much vs shamans
15:34.14StanzillaInner Fire got changed in wotlk maybe they think it's too overpowered then :P
15:34.46digmouseuh, 9 healers is ok for bloodboil?
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15:35.13EvilJohnyeah
15:35.24EvilJohn9 is fine for a new raid
15:36.12cubicoolI think you should only be able to dispel Inner Fire "charges"
15:36.19cncfanaticsyou call that massive ?
15:36.20cubicoolThat would be righteously cool
15:36.27AckisWorkwtf
15:36.28digmousewe use 3 groups in the bloodboil rotation, but still get problems on the survival of people Fel Raged
15:36.29AckisWork* Due to performance problems and numerous bugs, we're reverting the combat log changes in 2.4, and going back to the old style combat log
15:36.51digmouselol
15:37.12CIA-4403ananhaid * r77401 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot.lua:
15:37.12CIA-44LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
15:37.12CIA-44- add Muru Kil'jaeden items.
15:37.36AckisWorklol :P
15:38.28digmouseany hints for tanking bloodboil, the only problems we got is our tanks' aggro and the fel rage survival
15:38.32digmouse、
15:38.37digmouse?
15:39.11Stanzillatell your ranged dps to chill in p1 and start dpsing in the first felrage phase
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15:40.31Funkeh`Stanzilla, what if your dps sucks
15:40.36selckinAckisWork: wot? really?
15:41.08AckisWorkselckin: it was an old april fools jooke that I missed
15:41.17KazieHow come my MicroMenu is still shown when i disabled it in BT4? :s
15:41.29KazieI have not installed any new addons :s
15:42.24AckisWorkthat splash screen stuff on blizz's page has a lot of people nerd crafting lol
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15:43.12Funkeh`...
15:43.38Funkeh`you know
15:43.54Funkeh`i try to imagine my life if ackis hadn't joined the community now
15:44.09Chomperssomething about css being d and i on different days
15:44.25Chomperswonder if today it's a
15:44.39AckisWorkFunkeh`: would your life be better or worse?
15:44.46Funkeh`worse
15:44.57AckisWorkawww I think that's a compliment
15:45.42ChompersFunkeh doesn't 'do' nice
15:46.11AckisWorkclad re-enabled the auto-join message for ackis (only in wowace however)
15:46.16Funkeh`sure i do
15:53.55AckisWorkupdates his wowace sig to make Funkeh` facepalm.
15:54.36Funkeh`lol
15:54.56ZealotOnAStickWhat's the latest on speculation about the blizzard splash page?
15:55.17Funkeh`nerd craft! AckisWork pounce !
15:55.20AckisWorkit's a new game involving Barney the purple dinosaur
15:55.21AckisWorklol
15:55.29AckisWorkhttp://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8709&page=61
15:55.43AckisWork(got that linked from the wowwiki channel)
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16:02.50AckisWork~emulate FIsker-
16:02.51purlemulate fisker- is, like, DISCLAIMER - The views of Fisker- do not necessarily represent this channel or its inhabitents. The Fisker- regularly browses 4chan looking for CP, or at least JB, and tries to convert more followers to his cause everyday. He says he's just a fan of "Captain Picard" and "Joe Bishop", but we know better, right? We think he's just here to try and get more CP, so watch out! - END DISCLAIMER
16:03.03Fisker-srsly
16:03.10Fisker-Had a written exam
16:03.13Fisker-about asp.net
16:03.19Fisker-and there was a question like this:
16:03.32Fisker-"When a asp.net webpage is loaded, the Page_Load() method is called."
16:03.37Fisker-Great question, geniuses
16:04.27AckisWorkThe answer is 42
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16:06.10Fisker-clearly the answer is "your mother"
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16:06.45AckisWorkbe quiet you CP lover!
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16:19.05cubicoolI can't figure out what CP is.
16:19.18AckisWorkCaptain Picard
16:19.31cubicoolOH CONTEXT CLUES
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16:19.49cubicoolI thought for sure it was some new meme I missed.
16:20.09AckisWorklol
16:20.14cubicoolHere I am looking through Wikipedia like a retard.
16:20.32AckisWorklol
16:20.34Saroz18:20:06 | <purl> From nevcairiel (nevcairiel!i=nevcairi@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel) on Wed Jun  4 17:02:07 2008 (20d 23h 18m 14s ago):
16:20.34Saroz18:20:06 | <purl> thanks for breaking sRaidFrames, yay for using more bloaty libs, thank you very much <.<
16:20.35SarozWTF
16:22.15AckisWorkSaroz: that was a while ago when you used lib sticky frames
16:26.33CIA-4403ulic * r77402 10LittleWigs/Coilfang/Ahune.lua: LittleWigs: CFR/Ahune - typo bugfixes
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16:33.59laegis there a way to increase the macro size from 255 characters?
16:34.52laegor someone make wacraft know how to understand aliases i might use like hemo for hemorrhage?
16:35.18Fisker-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFKscf1AOXM&feature=related <-btw
16:35.22Fisker-awsum
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16:45.15AckisWorkhmm
16:45.18AckisWorkhttp://www.google.com/bsd
16:45.30AckisWorkand http://www.google.com/linux
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16:51.16CIA-4403philosound * r77404 10Poppins/Poppins.lua:
16:51.16CIA-44Poppins:
16:51.16CIA-44- FrameStrata option 4 and 5 added (Dialog and Tooltip) and changed default values
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16:59.36LukianToolTip Exchange and Links conflict
16:59.48Lukianoccasionally a tooltip is opened with no user action :/
16:59.55CIA-4403wattw * r77405 10StatBlocks_Folks/StatBlocks_Folks.lua:
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16:59.55CIA-44<PROTECTED>
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17:00.00erikhlaeg: just write a small addon for the macros you need
17:00.01Lukianie. anything not in the cache, I think
17:00.06durcynwhat in the nine hells is ToolTip Exchange
17:00.10durcynand why does it even exist
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17:00.23Lukianlaeg, /click MultiBarLeftButton11
17:00.53Lukianthere's an extra 220 characters
17:01.04laegerikh: i don't know lua yet
17:01.15laegi will learn but i don't know it just this minute
17:01.28laegLukian: can you elaborate please?
17:01.43laegit will go straight into another button/macro?
17:01.48Lukianbutton
17:01.49Lukianyes
17:02.20Lukianand return to the rest of the macro after
17:02.20Lukianie. cat druids use something like this
17:02.44Lukian#showtooltip Shred
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17:02.56laegk ty
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17:03.03laegbear with me and i'll test it
17:03.26Lukianthe first macro disables ui sounds and checks my energy and deshifts me if it's low (for powershifting)
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17:12.52laegcan i use /click actionbarleftbutton8 and 2 instead, yeah?
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17:12.52AckisWorkDARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com/sec
17:12.53AckisWork:D
17:12.53DARKGuyLukian: thanks ^_^ - very interesting indeed :O
17:12.53Lukianhttp://ace.pastey.net/90028 if anyone else wants it
17:12.53Lukiansomeone on EJ forums came up with the powershifting bit
17:13.31Lukianand I found it on Toskk's wiki page
17:13.31Lukianpretty nifty when you remove the fizzle sound, ui errors and add trinkets and pots :D
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17:14.22erikhyeah, I have my trinkets bound to pop on lifebloom and rejuv
17:14.22erikhlifebloom + lower city prayerbook = lots of extra effective mp5
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17:15.26CIA-4403ananhaid * r77406 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot.lua:
17:15.26CIA-44LibPeriodicTable-3.1:
17:15.26CIA-44- removed useless Anzu items not in heroic.
17:15.26erikhour direct healers also throw their relics into the list
17:15.26Lukianin 2.4.3 they don
17:15.26Lukian't
17:15.26Lukian:)
17:15.26Traeis it just me or are all the Cartographer addons just crap?  No offense meant to ckknight here.   I've NEVER gotten any of the "mining" or whatever cart addons to work ever.
17:15.38durcynthe gathering modules were written by third parties, guy
17:15.38Lukianthey work fine
17:15.39Traewaits for "Your doing it wrong"
17:15.39erikhI like the waypoint addon
17:15.39durcynand are deprecated in favor of GatherMate
17:15.51Lukianbut you should consider cart2 to be abandoned :p
17:16.01Lukianas cart3 is in 'heavy' dev :p
17:16.01TraeLukian, (hey there btw ;)
17:16.30CIA-4403wattw * r77407 10StatBlocks_Factions/StatBlocks_Factions.lua: StatBlocks_Factions: Improved faction standing coloring
17:16.39Traeyeah I've just never gotten any of those to work at all.
17:16.47LukianTrae, no one says you have to use them either :p
17:16.47Traeguess I'm a moran
17:16.47Lukianyou can use GatherMate
17:16.57Lukianand you can use mapster or such instead of Cart
17:17.06ApocoRBM + Stubby = Fine.  RBM + Xloot = fine.  Stubby + XLoot = Fine, Stubby + RBM + Xloot = complete failure
17:17.15Traeoh I love cart.  Didn't mean any disrespect
17:17.46LukianApoco, ahahha
17:18.03Apocoit makes no fucking since
17:18.03LukianItem database addons, which ones work well and have tab completion?
17:18.16Apocoattempt to call global 'LibStub' (a table value)
17:18.16Apocoevery ace addon gives that error
17:18.24Apocowhen all 3 are enabled (SOMETIMES)
17:18.24LukianTooltip Exchange isn't doing it for my, ItemSync uses .. well terrible libraries :p
17:18.35Josh_Borkei blame stubby
17:18.41ApocoI want too
17:18.42durcynLukian: Ludwig..?
17:18.51Josh_BorkeApoco: one of them is using an outdated libstub
17:18.52Lukiandurcyn, tab completion?
17:19.00durcynLukian: oh, no.
17:19.10durcynbut you can /lw <string> on a partial match
17:19.18ApocoI disabled libstub from all of the stupid ass auc advanced mods
17:19.22Apocoand it still seemed to do it
17:19.29durcynLukian: try GFW_Linkerator if you want tab completion
17:19.31Apoco(note he has a copy of libstub in EVERY lua file)
17:19.39laegLukian: something like this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22912/
17:19.43Lukiandurcyn, ok!! I liked GFW addons when I used to use them
17:19.44Josh_BorkeApoco: pastey all the libstub files (sans the ones embedded)
17:19.47Fisker-Thrae
17:19.50Fisker-suicidetiems
17:20.03Josh_BorkeApoco: you should never ever get that error if anyone is using LibStub-1.0
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17:20.20Josh_BorkeApoco: actually, i would check to see what LibStub is if you have them all enabled
17:20.21durcynLukian: my only complaint is that it uses a shitload of CPU on the /link search.  inline [foo] seems okay though.
17:20.24Lukianaction1barleftbutton8 is wrong, but yes laeg
17:20.36Lukiandurcyn, don't suppose it has a browsing gui? :(
17:20.54durcynno
17:21.02laegLukian: can we not name the macro by name instead of having an ugly macro8 on my actionbar?
17:21.06laegthat is the second macro
17:21.14Lukianlaeg, I've never got that to work
17:21.19laegok
17:21.19laegty
17:21.20laeg:D
17:21.20Lukianyou can try though
17:21.31GnarfozLukian: the entire purpose of GFW_Linkerator is to not have a GUI and thus not need a searchable db
17:21.33laegi will i will, lets see if it works as is first
17:21.34Gnarfozit just uses your local cache
17:21.47Gnarfozi.e. if you haven't seen an item, you won't be able to link it, even if the server 'knows' it
17:22.09LukianGnarfoz, why can't it use my local cache with a gui?
17:22.28Lukian(this is more for my housemate than myself :p)
17:22.31GnarfozI dunno if you can, but it wouldn't be searchable, I guess.
17:22.32ApocoJosh_Borke: http://ace.pastey.net/90030
17:22.36Apocois what /echo LibStub gives me
17:23.00ANTRatelin
17:23.04Gnarfozfor searchability, you'd have to save the whole tooltip for every item, which is what LootLink & co. do
17:23.37Lukianmemory usage isn't an issue
17:23.42Lukiancpu time annoys me
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17:23.56Josh_BorkeApoco: that's good, if it isn't working at this point then you know that one of those mods is changing the metatable on the LibStub table
17:24.19ApocoBut why would they work independently but not together?
17:24.35ApocoI can load all 3 and have all 3 work properly on my hunter, but my rogue it fails to all ends
17:24.47Josh_Borke<PROTECTED>
17:24.54Apocokk
17:25.00laegLukian: no dice :( it did everything in macro 1 but it didn't go onto button do and i corrected action1barleftbutton 8 to actionbar1leftbutton 8
17:25.01SnagoApoco: It could depend on load order.. One could be missing the metatable but still claim to be minor 2
17:25.06GnarfozLukian: well, then just use LootLink or ItemSync or Ludwig (if the latter still works)
17:25.08laeg*onto button 2
17:25.13Apocowant embeds?
17:25.23Josh_Borkeyea, entire folders
17:25.26Apocokk
17:25.30Josh_Borkeyou can even send me your entire addon folders if you want, up to you
17:25.49laegLukian: this is how it stands http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22915/
17:26.03LukianMultiBarBottomLeft
17:26.11laeghmm
17:26.12Lukianis probably what you want
17:26.15laegwhich bar is the multibar?
17:26.21Lukianall of them
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17:26.33LukianBottomLeft / Right, and then Left / Right
17:26.46laegok
17:26.54laegyou know when you start a new character and they just have one bar
17:27.08Lukianthat'd be bottomleft (I hope)
17:27.12laegkk
17:27.13laegty
17:27.24LukianMultiBarBottomLeft1 - 12
17:27.58laegk i will use MultiBarBottomLeft 2 and MultiBarBottomLeft 8
17:28.22ApocoI have a big feeling it is something in Auctioneer Advanced shit poor coding and usage of LibStub + Stubby
17:28.41Josh_Borkewe'll see
17:28.50Josh_Borkeif it is, it will be good to bring it to their attention
17:28.54LukianI have a feeling it's Stubby :)
17:29.10Apocohttp://www.assimx.net/StupidLibStubErrors.zip
17:29.35laegApoco: i'm getting a stubby error whenever i try to report toa  gm and i can't disable stubby because auc advanced won't work
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17:30.16ApocoI have nothing to do with Auctioneer, I only have it installed to try and fix this error or attempt to fix it
17:30.24ApocoI've spent the last 5 hours trying to figure out why it is occuring and can't
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17:31.05Josh_Borkestubby doesn't have libstub in it
17:31.21ApocoLook in libs/DebugLib
17:31.36Apocoline 139+
17:32.09Apocoall of the auctioneer advanced libs have a copy of libstub added into it
17:32.15Apocothat I found atleast
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17:34.57Josh_Borkewho's the author of swatter?
17:35.02Josh_Borkei want to smack them
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17:35.26ApocoAuctioneer Guys
17:35.29ApocoI believe
17:35.32Apocolol
17:35.40laegLukian: no joy with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22920/
17:35.45laegwon't jump to second button
17:35.49Gnarfozit's from the departement of redundancy departement, Josh_Borke
17:36.10Gnarfozbecause BugSack is a spawn of the evil ace community, and that can't be left standing :p
17:36.16Lukianlaeg, no space
17:36.35NivFreakhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=38289
17:36.36durcynnuts to bugsack and swatter both, there is only oShit
17:36.39Josh_Borkei like !Swatter more than bugsack
17:36.40NivFreaktwo autoblockers!
17:36.46Josh_Borkebut they do some bad things
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17:37.56ApocoI use swatter, just because its what I am used too
17:38.03Josh_BorkeApoco: do you have a bugtrack?
17:38.13Apocoof/
17:38.14Apoco?*
17:38.21Josh_Borkeofy when they all bug out
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17:38.55Apoco1 sec
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17:39.48ApocoI can give you all 53 errors from Swatter
17:40.05Josh_Borkesure, why not?
17:40.38CIA-4403lifetapt * r77408 10Paranoia_EPA/ (ParanoiaSpells.lua localization_de.lua):
17:40.38CIA-44Paranoia_EPA:
17:40.38CIA-44-Replaced machine translated deDE localization with a new one thanks to rom and AmmokK (aka ThorasH).
17:40.38CIA-44-Added Pally spells up to level 22 to ParanoiaSpells.lua.
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17:42.06Apocohttp://ace.pastey.net/90033
17:44.03Snagopastey sure is slow today :\
17:44.27Apocoyah I noticed that too
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17:46.06Apocohttp://ace.pastey.net/90035 thats the load order
17:46.45laegLukian: http://s3.tinypic.com/312zdy0.jpg http://i26.tinypic.com/no91ya.jpg
17:47.55Apocolaeg: you spent all that time blocking out stuff in the first screenshot
17:47.59Apocobut you didnt do it in the second :p
17:48.04laegblocking out what?
17:48.30Apoconames, chat logs, etc
17:48.31laegoh
17:48.33laegno i didn't
17:48.41laegthe screenshot didn't work properly because i'm on linux
17:48.44Apocoah
17:48.45Apocokk
17:48.48laeg:)
17:48.58Apocobrb
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17:49.37ThiefMasterhi, anyone knows an addon which displays the actual effect of stats in an item tooltip?
17:49.44ThiefMastere.g. how many mana the +int will give me
17:50.25profalbertThiefMaster: RatingBuster?
17:50.26dylanmThiefMaster: RatingBuster comes to mind.
17:51.22ThiefMasterty
17:53.33Lukianlaeg, where is that macro?
17:53.36Apocoany ideas Josh_Borke?
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17:54.03Josh_Borkestill waiting on pastey to come up, gotta go afk in the meantime
17:54.09ckknightTrae: hiya
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17:54.26Apocolol
17:54.45ckknightLukian: I did some hacking on Cart2 yesterday (granted, it was to make it function better with Cart3, so it's a cop-out)
17:55.53pewpewarrowshmm, what exactly is the purpose of the CallbackHandler in Ace3?
17:56.06ulicFunkeh`: you around?
17:56.13Lukianlaeg, try "action2"
17:56.15Apocowhy would someone run cart2 and 3 ckknight?
17:56.17Funkeh`semi
17:56.30ckknightApoco: in order to use the old cart2 modules but have cart3's interface
17:56.39ckknightpewpewarrows: imo, it should be removed
17:56.43Lukianlaeg, or move it to a bar you actually know the name of
17:56.48ckknighthttp://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-200
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17:56.56LukianI think the default bar might be Action1 - Action12
17:56.59ulicI was under the impression that any given BigWigs module would only load if the current zone was matched and the boss was moused over.
17:57.12ckknightApoco: for example, if someone wants to use the mining module or such
17:57.24Funkeh`you mean enable
17:57.26Lukianulic, "enabled" yes, loaded? not really
17:57.27ckknightApoco: Cart2 disables its Foglight and LookNFeel modules if Cart3 is detected, since they'd conflict
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17:57.36Apocogotcha
17:57.42ulicyes sorry, enabled.
17:58.05dylanmckknight: You just want it moved up one level in the svn, essentially? I'm not saying that that's unreasonable.
17:58.18ckknightdylanm: precisely.
17:58.19dylanmWould obviously have to be standalone too.
17:58.20ulicit seems like the Kael module for The Eye is loading for Kael in MgT also.  Was just trying to figure out why.
17:58.27pewpewarrowsckknight, I see.  I was just wondering what it actually does, I'm just confusing myself by reading the source
17:58.27ckknightdylanm: I want it to be like LibStub is
17:58.51ckknightpewpewarrows: oh, it allows for a messaging/callback/event (whatever you want to call it) system for libraries or addons
17:59.02dylanmYeah given that everyone seems to cool with agnostic libraries using it, too.
17:59.07pewpewarrowsckknight, oh ok, thanks :)
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17:59.33[Ammo]ulic: due to bw2 not using mob ids but names
17:59.36Lukianlaeg, any luck?
17:59.42ckknightdylanm: I also want http://jira.wowace.com/browse/ACE-201
17:59.47laegLukian: see the links i pasted
17:59.56Lukianlaeg, see above..
18:00.03laegLukian: oh sorry didn't see your previous :)
18:00.07SnagoApoco: How big was http://ace.pastey.net/90033 (all errors)? It still won't load :P
18:00.13Apocolol
18:00.20Apocoit didnt take up the size limit ~_~
18:00.26ulic[Ammo]: so the problem is that people are mabye not running their modules LoD, so they are all loaded so once Kael is moused over, boom, you got both modules?
18:00.28dylanmpewpewarrows: It's like the classic Ace :RegisterEvent but you :Fire the event whenever. If you look at the AceEvent-3.0 source I think it'll be pretty clear how one uses it.
18:00.43dylanm(AE-3.0 is a really, really thin wrapper on CBH.)
18:00.44CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77409 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
18:00.44CIA-44LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0:
18:00.44CIA-44- Added Fresh Brewfest Hops and Preserved Brewfest Hops to PetAndMountDatabase.Items.MountEnchant
18:00.45Apoco<509 lines
18:00.56[Ammo]ulic: correct
18:01.13SnagoApoco: Could you paste the first few errors again please?
18:01.29pewpewarrowsdylanm, awesome, yeah looking at AE cleared it up a bunch
18:02.07ulicah ha, anyone have suggested work around, only thing I can think off the top of my head is when the MgT module activates print a warning to chat to make sure and tell disable the other if it activated also.
18:02.07Apocohttp://ace.pastey.net/90037 there we go
18:02.14Apocoits in plain text apparently the LUA parsing was lagging it
18:02.22krkaApoco: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon"
18:02.26Traeckknight, :)  
18:02.41TraeI do have to admit... that it finds the node after I've found it.
18:02.42Traeheh
18:02.43ckknightTrae: btw, if you have any questions wrt cart, I'm willing to answer
18:03.01Lukianckknight, when will cart3 be up to scratch for general use?
18:03.11TraeI guess I never understood what it was, a retro-active auto-mapping database for nodes previously mined.
18:03.48Dashkaloh wow, I haven't seen the all-caps lua trigger in awhile :p
18:04.10ckknightLukian: hrm, well, depends on the use case, everyone's different. I'm on v0.4 now, v0.5 will be mostly feature additions, most important of which is battleground support. I plan to just keep an iterative cycle and gradually improving it.
18:04.31Dashkalckknight: gathermate integration?
18:04.38ckknightDashkal: already in
18:04.46Dashkalblinks
18:04.46Lukianckknight, more to the point, what's missing? :)
18:04.50Dashkalroutes too?
18:04.53ckknightyep.
18:04.56Dashkaltime to switch
18:04.59ckknightalmost all 3rd party mods work
18:05.04Traeckknight, I guess we'll never have the ability to see where we are in instances huh?
18:05.10ckknightincluding questhelper, gathermate, gatherer, routes, etc.
18:05.12DashkalHow'd you get them working given how different you do things from the normal map
18:05.16ckknightTrae: sadly, that's a blizzard issue, so no
18:05.24ckknightDashkal: my penis is quite large.
18:05.28Traeckknight, yah we talked about that a long time back iirc
18:05.28Lukianckknight, questobjectives / quest* modules?
18:05.30Traelol
18:05.30ckknightlet's leave it as that.
18:05.40Dashkalum, why thank you for that :p
18:05.55ckknightLukian: not yet, I recommend using QuestHelper or something like TourGuide
18:06.06TraeI don't know... I'm not sure I'd want a "large" penis... Mines average and well I still hit the back end.
18:06.08Traeheh
18:06.10ckknightLukian: well, I want waypoints for v0.6
18:06.20Lukianah!
18:06.24Lukianyeah that's essential XD
18:06.43ckknightDashkal: nah, basically, I fake the position of the map so that other addons don't change their code, they interact with WorldMapFrame, which is positioned on the Cart3 frame
18:06.53ckknightLukian: 3d waypoint is my idea
18:06.57ckknightLukian: not a 2d one
18:07.02ckknightlike it is now
18:07.03Dashkalooo, that's a nifty trick
18:07.05Lukianooo sexy ^_^
18:07.08ckknighthas cool plans
18:07.15Lukianis QuestInfo or QuestObjectives support possible?
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18:07.19Josh_Borkeckknight: you make me sad
18:07.25ckknightk?
18:07.34laegLukian: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/22931/ :(
18:07.37ckknightLukian: eventually, but I have other plans for that
18:07.59Lukianalrighty
18:08.05ckknightJosh_Borke: how do I make you sad?
18:08.06Lukianmight stick with current cart for now
18:08.07Josh_Borkeckknight: "I fake the position of the map so that other addons don't change their code" =?= "I fake the position of the map so that I can break other addons when i want to" :-D
18:08.29ckknight...no, 3rd party support was a primary goal for Cart3
18:08.36ckknightI want people to be able to extend it easily
18:08.53ckknightLukian: you can run 2 and 3 at the same time, use Cart2's modules on Cart3's interface
18:08.57Lukianlaeg, I'm going to bed, seriously, make sure they are in the right place, and you are using an actionbar you know the name of :P
18:09.11Lukianckknight, do I really want to do that? XD
18:09.30ckknightLukian: it might be a little more memory intensive than you might like, but things like QuestObjectives will keep working without issue
18:09.33ckknightthat's the goal, at least
18:09.38ckknightif there's an issue, tell me and I'll fix it
18:09.49Lukianhmm alright
18:10.21Lukianis there a database with all known nodes for gathermate btw?
18:10.47[Ammo]gathermate_data
18:10.58Lukianhow could I miss that :/
18:10.59Lukianlol
18:11.27ckknightJosh_Borke: thing is, I don't have specific support for any 3rd-party addon, instead I just set it up so that 3rd party addons just work
18:11.32Dashkalhas anybody ever cleaned up gathermate_data so it doesn't have all these strange phantom nodes?
18:12.23Stanzillayes^^
18:12.34Stanzillait was wowhead's fault afaik
18:12.52EllipsisI blame Stanzilla
18:12.57StanzillaI blame your mum
18:13.34DashkalStanzilla: sweet.  For awhile there I was convinced there was a private server with an extra island in netherstorm
18:13.44laegLukian: macro one is in button 2 on my action bar and macro two in button 8
18:13.45Stanzillahehe
18:13.47DashkalPhantom nodes in this neat circle around an "edge" floating off in the nether
18:14.03Stanzillait uses wowdb data now
18:14.08laegLukian: the macro refers to them as action2 and action8 just like you said
18:14.12Dashkalnods
18:14.19Lukianlaeg, I've never used ActionX before
18:14.27LukianTry one of the other bars for your 2nd macro
18:14.29DashkalI'll run it again.  I wanted to do the old world but there was enough work as it was cleaning up outland
18:16.15ckknightwell, I have my own ideas for a gather node system to make it far less complex than what has previously existed, try to slim down memory and cpu usage to minute amounts while still having lots of good data
18:17.08Stanzillackknight: do you think you can beat Xinhuan when it comes to optimization? :P
18:17.27ckknightgotta try
18:18.49ckknightin any event, that's a bit more long term than what I'm looking at
18:18.50Arrowmasterif you try then keep it private at first instead of having a public addon battle
18:19.33ckknightwell, I plan for it to be an optional component and I don't plan on removing GatherMate or Gatherer support
18:19.39ckknightI want to keep things civil
18:20.12cubicoolWhat's an addon battle?
18:20.21ckknightmy addon can beat up your addon!
18:20.22cubicoolBetter bring your +hit
18:20.48Arrowmasteras soon as you have a cartographer3 on then youll start getting the error reports for all the rest of them from people using cartographer3
18:20.53AckisWorktwo addons enter, one addon leaves
18:21.33ckknightArrowmaster: yea, yea
18:21.40ckknightbeen down that road before
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18:22.41Arrowmaster"why hello there 'Cartographer Collection' users stop fucking reporting error xyz since that was fucking fixed MONTHS AGO!"
18:23.02ckknightI don't plan on allowing any collections like that for Cartographer3
18:23.32[Liquidor]Antiarc, ping
18:23.33AckisWorkArrowmaster: it could be worse, he could have named it something that starts with an "A" and gets a lot of error reports due to something in the Ace library screwing up (ie: another add-on)
18:23.40[Liquidor]~seen Antiarc
18:24.03purlantiarc is currently on #wowuidev (1h 10m 24s) #wowace (1h 10m 24s) #curseforge (1h 10m 24s), last said: 'Gaming a random seed is a fool's errnad.'.
18:24.25ArrowmasterAckisWork: i have a idea to fix that i but dont think some people would like it
18:24.51AckisWorkdelete all addons that start with A?
18:25.05ckknightB is the new A
18:25.13ckknightwaits for Bartender4 reports
18:25.18AckisWorklol
18:25.23Arrowmasternah wrap all libraries in LoadString() calls so you can change what its called in debugstack()
18:25.55AckisWorkI remember some dude leaving a nasty message on a one of the release sites about a "bug" with ARL because of the Ace library being loaded with it and another add-on causing an error
18:25.57AckisWorkI facepalmed
18:26.36DashkalJust file that under USER=ID10T
18:27.18AckisWorkcan my drycode mistakes be keyboard/chair interface errors?
18:27.32ckknightPEBKAC!
18:27.55AckisWorkheh
18:29.23SnagoApoco: I think it's an issue with AceLibrary and AnchorsAway
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18:29.47ApocoI have no clue ~_~
18:30.22Apocothat wouldnt make sense because it works on my hunter, or if I disable: XLoot, RBM (which doesnt use AceLibrary or AnchorsAway), or Auct-Advanced + Stupid Deps
18:31.23Arrowmasterwhats the problem?
18:32.06CIA-4403ulic * r77410 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua: LittleWigs: MgT/Kael- Adjusted pyroblast stuff based on new data and added a warning for people to make sure they didn't enable the TK/Kael module.
18:32.45ApocoRBM + AuctioneerAdvanced + Xloot = total LibStub failure
18:32.49Apocoand we cant figure out why
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18:33.16Arrowmasterwhich ones only call LibStub directly?
18:33.22SnagoWhat's the point of the crawlReplace function in AceLibrary anyway?
18:33.26Arrowmasterand which call AceLibrary or Rock?
18:33.36ApocoXloot calls AceLibrary
18:33.46ApocoAuctionner has libstub hard coded into all of its libraries
18:33.54ApocoRBM calls it directly
18:34.03Arrowmasterdoes it work if you remove Xloot?
18:34.06ApocoYes
18:34.07ckknightSnago: it's so AceOO didn't mess up on library upgrades by keeping the internal references the same
18:34.17Arrowmasterdoes it work if you install Ace2 standalone?
18:34.27ApocoNot if all 3 are enabled
18:34.36Snagockknight: but it fails hard on protected metatables
18:34.37ApocoI say that, it does on my hunter but not on my rogue
18:34.45Apocoand not on other users
18:34.46ckknightyes it does, Snago
18:34.55ArrowmasterAceLibrary and Rock had a similar issue
18:35.01Arrowmasterthat i dont think ever got fixed
18:35.14Arrowmasterone of them fucks up the upgrade path i think
18:36.16Arrowmastertry it with just those 3 addons, but disembed all libs and also use Ace2 standalone
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18:36.42ApocoI run disembeded
18:37.28Saroznevcairiel
18:38.56ApocoArrowmaster == Kiroth?
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18:39.03Arrowmasterno
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18:39.20SnagoApoco: Found the problem...
18:39.25Apoco?
18:39.44Arrowmasterits a bug in acelibrary right?
18:40.25SnagoApoco: A protected metatable in Auc-Adv lib LibRecycle mess up the AceLibrary "feature" to automaticly register new libs to LibStub as well
18:41.36Apocowhy would that cause LibStub to fail though?
18:41.48Arrowmasterbecause acelibrary is fucking it up
18:41.55Apocobleh
18:42.26ApocoYeah I can run JUST those 3 and it not have an issue
18:44.20durcyn!api RunMacro
18:44.20lua_botDocumentation for 'RunMacro' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RunMacro
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18:47.06Apocohmm
18:47.52Apocoalright, now how to fix it
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18:48.34SnagoDump all addons using AceLibrary :P
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18:49.03Apocothats not an option :p
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18:49.34AeyanIf someone could write a decent timer bars addon that didn't depend on Ace2, I could lose that entire framework =P
18:49.50ApocoTimer Bars Addon?
18:49.56dylanmAeyan: A library, you mean?
18:50.11AeyanYes, Apoco, I've tried RBM =)
18:50.24AeyanNo, I know about LibBars
18:50.32ApocoWhat doesnt it do that you want to occur?
18:50.35AeyanI mean something along the lines of classtimer, chronometer, etc etc
18:50.46AeyanSelf timers, mostly
18:50.52AeyanWorks great for target timers
18:51.13AeyanBut I'd like a seperate group for timers on myself, like Renew and PW:S
18:51.44ApocoThats easily doable in RBM
18:52.22AeyanI tried to work it out, but I was never able to with the config options I had
18:52.35ApocoWhat plugin(s) were you using?
18:52.56Apocojust De|Buff Watch?
18:53.00AeyanYes
18:53.18ApocoTry it with AbilityWatch
18:54.00Pkekyo|TOUCHYOURSELVES
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18:54.15AeyanAlright, I'll give it another go
18:54.29AeyanAbilityWatch was brand new on the SVN when I last tried it
18:54.33SunTsuSpeaking of timers, is there any addon that can tell me how long my water elemental still is unter my control?
18:54.36Apocoyeah its gone a long way since then
18:55.04ApocoI wanted to work on it all day but I've been trying to find out why this stupid ass error was occuring
18:55.12AeyanI don't really have anything against Ace2, but it seems a waste to load all those libraries for 1-2 addons, you know?
18:55.24Apocoyeah I know the feeling
18:55.32ApocoI want to get away from it too, but I can't live without Xloot
18:55.40AeyanHehe
18:55.51AeyanI weaned myself off of Xloot's shiny window
18:56.05ApocoI even ported PT3Bar to Ace3 so I didn't have to use Ace2 but then it went back to Xloot
18:56.13AeyanAnd picked up teksloot for the group roll stuff
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18:57.27Diaosomeone convert xloot to ace3!
18:57.28Diao;p
18:57.34ApocoIf there is something that RBM cant do via DeBuff Watch/Ability Watch let me know and I'll get it added asap
18:57.39CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77411 10Tabard/ (. Tabard.lua Tabard.toc embeds.xml):
18:57.39CIA-44Tabard:
18:57.39CIA-44- One last switch of frameworks to Ace3
18:57.40ApocoI typically get feature reqs done within 24 hours
18:57.53Snagowtb BigWigs without Ace2
18:58.19AeyanWill do, thanks
18:58.21CIA-4403moonwitch * r77412 10ButtonFacade_simpleSquare/ (12 files in 2 dirs): ButtonFacade_simpleSquare: Initial commit
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18:58.44dylanmThat's really an author concern.
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18:59.10Apocowhat is?
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19:02.35AeyanI'd guess they mean converting BigWigs from Ace2
19:02.53Apocoah
19:02.59Apocoomg MapleStory 0.56 is out!
19:03.03Apoco./quitwow
19:04.14AeyanHehe
19:06.04NeoTronso I finally fixed the timers in my kalecgos addon (BW plugin that uses LibBars and shows timers for people on the inside and debuff timer for people on the  outside )
19:06.06CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77413 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
19:06.06CIA-44LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0:
19:06.06CIA-44- Version passed in when registering the database with LibPeriodicTable-3.1 is now based on the revision of PetAndMountDatabase_sets.lua
19:08.32CIA-4403LordFarlander * r77414 10LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.1/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
19:08.32CIA-44LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.1:
19:08.32CIA-44- Initial check in, will depreciate LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0 once Stable 2.1, Coconuts 2.0, and MiniPet 4.0 are released
19:08.48Arrowmasterlol
19:09.31LordFarlanderI know, odd set of checkins to have next to each other, but it will be soon I'll want to start posting betas of those and I'm bugfixing the current versions lol
19:10.01Arrowmasterif your registering with LPT3.1 why dont you just use LPT3.1?
19:11.11LordFarlanderIt has some extra functions to make dealing with it a little easier.  Also wasn't sure about adding stuff to the LPT3.1 tree
19:11.33LordFarlander(That is, dealing with mixes of spells and items easier)
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19:13.39LordFarlanderAlso I needed the group tree organized differently than LP3T3.1 has it for mounts and minipets.
19:14.22LordFarlanderI would be glad to make it a LPT3 sublibrary :)
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19:24.04AckisWorkIs there a way to remotely query settings for bigwigs? aka is flash/shake turned on, do you have icons disabled, etc?
19:24.30profalbertAckisWork: you could address BigWigs.db maybe?
19:25.02NeoTronis now the guild GM of his guild.
19:25.03AckisWorkthere'd need to be an api to handle it however
19:25.14AckisWorkneotron: warlock? horde? join team ice!
19:25.19dylanmYou could probably write something.
19:25.53AckisWorkBigWigs_IdiotCheck
19:26.04NeoTronAckisWork: warlock. alliance. already got a guild ;-)
19:26.15NeoTronalthough we could use a serious t6 prot warrior for M'uru
19:26.19AckisWork~fail neotron
19:26.20purlneotron, you Fail!
19:26.27AckisWorkwe need another lock or two to make KJ easier
19:26.28dylanmBoo gnomes.
19:26.38Arrowmasterwe need lots of classes
19:26.41Arrowmaster=(
19:26.48NeoTronseriously why would I be looking for a guild when I made GM? :P
19:27.05AckisWorkbeing GM is terrible and you don't want to do it
19:27.26AckisWorkwe're recruiting everything technically but locks are priority
19:27.33AckisWorkwouldn't mind another holy priest so I can sit some raids
19:27.43AckisWorkferal druid for sure
19:28.00AckisWorkmage would be nice
19:28.02NeoTronwe just recruited an arm warrior that did 1860 DPS on Brutallus in his old guild
19:28.15NeoTronI found that reasonbly impressive. for arms.
19:29.32Zyndrometell him to get his ass here, melee miss battleshould on Brut atm :<
19:29.37Zyndromeshout*
19:31.11NeoTrona fellow warlock did 2650 dps on brutallus last night
19:31.19NeoTronI only did 2450ish - crap crit luck
19:31.41NeoTronI finally tried an optimal warlock group (dps is without CoD, just SB spamming)
19:32.34AckisWork!c us illidan ackis
19:32.48AckisWorkwhy don't you talk in the channel WoWLuaircBot?
19:33.06AeyanApoco: Seems to be doing the job now. Thanks for the heads up. =)
19:33.07Aeyanhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/Aeyan/Warcraft/rbm-test.jpg
19:33.35Apoco:) np
19:33.44CIA-4403odlaw * r77415 10BangItHarder/ (BangItHarder.lua Locale-enUS.lua): BangItHarder: Added test bars
19:34.12AeyanOh, by the way, duration on Power Word: Shield in RBM_AbilityWatch.lua is wrong
19:34.16Aeyan30 seconds, not 15
19:34.54profalbertAeyan: looks right in the screenshot
19:35.28CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r3a2c3e1 10/: Azuremyst playtesting
19:35.28CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rf8f75fd 10/: Tiny Ally Zangar tweak
19:35.29CIA-44tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rc3af83c 10/: Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/kuroshiro/tourguide.git
19:35.41AeyanBecause I fixed it on my copy
19:35.41Apocoits 15 with arena bonuses
19:36.07AeyanNo, it's 30 seconds duration regardless
19:36.19AeyanArena bonus takes Weakened Soul from 15 sec to 13 sec
19:36.23Apocoah
19:36.24Apocokk
19:36.48Apocowonder why I had it at 15 then ~_~
19:37.22AeyanLots of abilities in that file, probably just coding too fast
19:37.23AeyanHehe
19:37.32Apocolol yeah
19:37.46Apocothey still arent in yet
19:37.54Apocoerr they all still arent in yet*
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19:41.33NeoTronOdlaw: BangItHarder sounds like some cheesy porn movie title.
19:41.39Odlaw:)
19:41.45Odlawblame my guildmate, he thought of it!
19:42.03NeoTronwaht is it?
19:42.08Odlawdrum tracking
19:42.19NeoTronah
19:42.40SnagoAnyone keeping count on how many drum trackers there are now? :P
19:42.44Odlawguildy wanted me to add some options to some addon he found on curse, but i hated it, and wrote my own.. decided i might as well put it up on wowace
19:42.59NeoTron22516 SB crit last night on Kalecgos
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19:43.00Odlawya.. but how many drum trackers have bars!
19:43.03NeoTronI wonder how the heck that happened
19:43.12NeoTronI mean there's the 2x dmg on crits
19:43.19NeoTronbut I normally don't crit for 11250ish
19:43.27Odlawwarlocks.
19:43.34Odlawdiaf.
19:43.36NeoTronhttp://wowwebstats.com/uuum1odtbd5n5?ab=27209
19:43.49ApocoSnago: iirc I had the first or second
19:43.50Apoco:)
19:44.20Apocoand Odlaw mine has bars ~_~<
19:44.52NeoTronSnago: do we need a DrumTrackerTracker addon perhaps
19:44.56NeoTronto keep track of the drum trackers
19:45.03Odlawrbm  doesn't count.
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19:45.32Apocolol why doesnt it count?
19:45.39Odlawthat's like one of them swiss army knives with 50 thousand tools
19:45.45Apocohaha
19:45.46Odlawi don't want a swiss army knife
19:45.55Odlaw:)
19:46.00Apocoit was still the first
19:46.06Odlawwell..
19:46.32AckisWorkso last week I was able to get a sath boss name from a kill on kalecgos, this week I didn't get a single thing.  Anyone know of a consistent way to get a boss name from kalecgos' death?
19:46.35Odlawdrummerboy on curse was the one i was playing with for guildmates.. i just don't like that guy's code
19:46.59NeoTronAckisWork: "sath boss name"?
19:46.59ApocoAckisWork: they both usually fire
19:47.09Apocothe demons name
19:47.14AckisWorkyah I can't spell his name at all
19:47.24ApocoSathargor the Corroruptor
19:47.26Apocoor some shit
19:47.26NeoTronyou don't see a death even on kalecgos unless you're on the inside in the end.. which is why I do mouse over tracking in magicdkp
19:47.29NeoTronif that is what you meant
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19:47.33NeoTronSathrovarr I believe
19:47.49AckisWorkyah, so no death is given unless you're on the inside?
19:47.53AckisWorkis that a blizz bug?
19:47.55Zurikwhat is the best way to package your addon with wowace?  do i just add the lib to my addon?
19:48.09NeoTron"feature" I'd say
19:48.21NeoTronhow the 'inside' works is taht you're invisible as are the mobs
19:48.22ZurikIf i'm going to use it, I need to make sure everyone has it.
19:48.35NeoTronand invisible mobs don't leak events to visible and vice versa
19:48.35ApocoI get both death events regardless of what side I'm on
19:48.38Apocoatleast I did last night
19:48.39durcynZurik: no, you need to read up on the svn documentation for how dependencies are managed
19:48.46AckisWorkI didn't get any last night
19:48.53NeoTronApoco: it might be a bit random
19:48.55NeoTronlike a timing issue
19:49.02profalbertZurik: http://www.wowace.com/wiki/SVN_For_Idiots :P
19:49.06NeoTrondepending on whether the invis fades before death event is sent or not
19:49.16NeoTronI sometimes seems to see the event, sometimes not
19:49.21profalbertZurik: and the other articles on svn are also quite useful
19:49.27Pkekyo|S T O P   B E I N G   S O   G O D D A M N   P R E G N A N T
19:49.31NeoTronalways see it if I was on the inside though
19:49.37Zurikok i'll check that before I sigh at documentation.
19:49.55AckisWorkNeoTron: would listening for his death yell work better than mouse over/
19:50.37ApocoAlso, the demon ports up before he dies
19:50.37Apocoso regardless you should get the event
19:50.44durcyni've had one wws show the death correctly
19:50.47Zurikwait,  i think i miss spoke the question.. i don't want my addon as part of the ACE lib  .. i want the ACE lib to be part of my addon.
19:50.49durcynever
19:50.58Apocowws parser for kalecgos is flawed
19:51.02Apocobecause of how the fight is
19:51.09durcynZurik: svn:externals, embeds.xml, toc metadata.  learn it, love it.
19:51.16Apocoyou can never get a proper kalecgos parse unless multiple people submit a merged parsed
19:51.36cubicoolyou better PHEER this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HXGA
19:52.06cubicoolwtb 7680x4800 res
19:52.26profalbertZurik: and it's Ace not ACE ;)
19:52.34cubicoolOr a GPU capable of refreshing a 37M buffer 60 times per second
19:52.57Zurikdircyn: i don't want to to be part of aces SVN.. i just want to use the WhoLib in my addon but how do i make sure everyone has it's dependancy ?
19:53.35profalbertZurik: you are using svn? or where do you want to put it?
19:53.47Apocofileplanet!
19:53.52Zurikyeah i have my own svn on google.
19:54.09Apocoyou should be able to do externals the same way
19:54.23ZurikI don't think i'm understanding what externals means.
19:54.23Apocolibs/WhoLib http://svn.files.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/WhoLib/
19:54.38Apocoor whatever, I don't believe the host of the external matters
19:55.09profalbertmore like http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/WhoLib/WhoLib-1.0/
19:55.26ApocoI didnt look it up
19:55.30Apocoit ws a generalization :)
19:55.31Apocowas*
19:56.00profalbertApoco: http://svn.files.wowace.com/ = Address Not Found
19:56.08Apocobleh
19:56.15profalbert:P
19:56.16Apocotrue enough
19:56.25ApocoYou know what I ment!
19:56.48laeghave you guys tried the improve camera mod?
19:56.55laeg*improvedcamera
19:57.03laeglets you zoom out nearly twice as far
19:58.05Apocowhy would I want to zoom out more/
19:58.14ApocoI'm already a little ant when I'm zoomed out all the awy
19:58.15Apocoway*
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20:00.27laegi just like seeing more
20:00.49ApocoI like seeing my badass toon
20:01.14laeg:)
20:02.07pewpewarrowsanyone mind explaining to me why there's AceBucket, AceEvent, _and_ CallbackHandler?  I don't really understand their interaction after reading through them
20:02.09Zurikok let me ask you this then..
20:02.27ApocoAceEvent doesnt handle bucket events
20:02.37Zurikcan i use http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WhoLib  by just putting the WhoLib in my addons folder without having Ace ?
20:02.40CIA-4403ackis * r77416 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: (log message trimmed)
20:02.40CIA-44TIRaid:
20:02.40CIA-44- Remove the Lady as a possible boss name
20:02.40CIA-44- Remove Doko as an officer (casual :( )
20:02.40CIA-44- Remove chat_msg_yell stuff
20:02.41CIA-44- Add a debug statement for when a boss is dead and when it's reset.
20:02.43AckisWorkaka I has a bucket AceEvent does not
20:02.43CIA-44- Added check to verify users are online when sending them addon messages.
20:02.53Apocolol
20:03.28pewpewarrowsthen what's a BucketEvent? (sorry if these are trivial questions)
20:03.29lifetaptWoot my copy of WoW Programming just arrived from Amazon ^^
20:03.40SnagoAnother addon with hardcoded officer names? :S
20:04.00dylanmpewpewarrows: You know why AceEvent exists. We went over this. Bucket is code you want to run whenever one event in a set of events fires, and you're concerned about that happening too often. So you set a lower limit on the frequency of your code running in response to those events.
20:04.25Zurikcan i use http://www.wowace.com/wiki/WhoLib  by just putting the WhoLib in my addons folder without having Ace ?
20:04.49Apocodepends how the library is written chances are no
20:04.52dylanmBut if the events don't happen, you don't want to fire so you can't just run your code every 10 seconds or so.
20:05.07pewpewarrowsdylanm, ok, makes sense.  now I know why it's called a bucket.  thanks a bunch.
20:05.09Zurikwell i was wondering if someone could take a look at it and tell me.
20:05.23Zurikcuz it has a libs folder with ace libs in it.
20:05.28profalbertZurik: You'll need at least AceLibrary
20:05.53profalbertZurik: but the easiest way to find out is just try loading it without any other addon, and observe the errormessages
20:06.07Zurikand then in the .toc http://pastey.net/90045
20:06.12dylanmpewpewarrows: Really, just read the top of http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Ace3/AceBucket-3.0/AceBucket-3.0.lua.
20:06.22pewpewarrowsdylanm, will do
20:06.30SnagoZurik: You'll need AceLibrary, AceEvent-2.0, AceHook-2.1, AceOO-2.0, AceLocale-2.2, Deformat
20:07.24Zurikeven though there is a directory in the WhoLib  folder called libs?
20:07.36Zurikand it has subfolders with all those names in it.
20:08.02SnagoZurik: As long as those libs gets loaded, one way or the other, you'll be fine
20:08.56Zurikkk.. thanks guys appreciate the help.. i'm going to do a little trial and error to confirm everything up.
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20:32.48CIA-4403apoco * r77417 10RBM/ (10 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
20:32.48CIA-44RBM:
20:32.48CIA-44-Fix: Old Toggles staying registered in config menus
20:32.48CIA-44-Fix: Boss Target Scanning not working as intended (but working none the less)
20:32.48CIA-44-Fix: Boss Death Detection slightly
20:32.49CIA-44-Fix: Multiple localization announcing problems. (checking "Announce" setting instead of L["Announce"])
20:32.53CIA-44-New: Option to transfer bars to its parent frame if it exists
20:36.31CIA-4403apoco * r77418 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (10 files in 2 dirs): RBM_BlackTemple: Updated to new standards. Removed localization files, converted all current localization the best I could.
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20:40.08Orionshockeh is wowace website down?
20:40.17CIA-4403apoco * r77419 10RBM_Config/ (Config.lua Locales/enUS.lua):
20:40.17CIA-44RBM_Config: Bug fix with hiding bossmodule settings when you dont have any installed or enabled.
20:40.17CIA-44Added option to transfer bars to parent frame if it exists
20:40.25Orionshockor is my dns fubar'ed?
20:40.50Apocoits up for me.
20:40.54philosound_it´s down on my side too
20:41.07NeoTronit is having issues
20:41.18OrionshockApoco: what's the IP ur getting for it?
20:41.24CIA-4403apoco * r77420 10RBM_Gruuls/ (Gruul.lua HighKing.lua RBM_Gruuls.toc locales/): RBM_Gruuls: Updated to new standards, removed localization files. Converted as much as possible.
20:42.05CIA-4403apoco * r77421 10RBM_Hyjal/ (7 files in 2 dirs):
20:42.05CIA-44RBM_Hyjal: Updated to new standards, removed localization files. Converted as much as possible.
20:42.05CIA-44- A few bug fixes with a few of the bossfights.
20:42.13AckisWork~dict factious
20:42.20Apoco[65.98.12.195]
20:42.23AckisWork~dict factious 2
20:42.32AckisWork~dict 2 factious
20:42.42AckisWork~dict 3 factious
20:43.07Orionshockwell that's the same ip im getting
20:43.10CIA-4403apoco * r77422 10RBM_Sunwell/ (8 files in 2 dirs):
20:43.10CIA-44RBM_Sunwell: Updated to new standards, removed localization files. Converted as much as possible.
20:43.10CIA-44- A few bug fixes with a few of the bossfights.
20:43.10Orionshock>.>
20:43.18Orionshockrouting fk'ed prolly
20:43.51NeoTronnah
20:44.00CIA-4403apoco * r77423 10RBM_ZulAman/ (8 files in 2 dirs): RBM_ZulAman: Updated to new standards, removed localization files. Converted as much as possible.
20:44.00NeoTronI got a squid error stating it was unable to forward it
20:44.11NeoTronso I gather the apache in the backend is having issues
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20:44.35NivFreakthey should make warglaves one-hand
20:44.43Apocolol....
20:44.44Apoconoty
20:44.45NivFreakand not unique
20:44.49NivFreakso I can tank with one!
20:44.58Apocoyou can tank with the main hand
20:45.04NivFreak2.7..
20:45.07NivFreaker
20:45.08NivFreak2.8
20:45.10ApocoI didnt say it was good
20:45.11NivFreakso freaking slow
20:45.13Apocobut I said it was doable
20:45.35NivFreakbut slow/fast is also sorta meh for fury
20:45.44NivFreakso clearly, one-hand non-unique
20:45.56Apocohaha
20:46.01Apocogo get your thunderfury
20:46.05NivFreakworking on it
20:46.14NivFreakwtb bindings
20:46.27NivFreakit's easier to get a group for naxx than MC
20:46.28NivFreakhaha
20:46.40ApocoMC is 2manable
20:46.52NivFreakmmm, maybe 5
20:46.54NivFreak2 is rough
20:46.59selckini've soloed stuff in mc
20:47.05ApocoI've done it with ease with 3
20:47.10NivFreakwhat classes?
20:47.11Apocoso I imagine druid/war could easily do it
20:47.14selckinwarrior
20:47.31NivFreakit would just take forever
20:47.33Apocoyou would take forever to kill garr but its easily survivable
20:47.55Apocowith resto druid gear, they regen more mp5 than they use with basic hot rotations
20:47.57NivFreakjust let his adds run wild?
20:48.02Apoconah tank them
20:48.06Apocoand just kill garr
20:48.08NivFreakI dualboxed him last time, tanking and healing
20:48.14NivFreakbut I had someone else dealing with his adds
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20:48.39selckinthey dont hurt
20:48.54NivFreakthey killed the healer
20:49.02NivFreakwhich is why I was healing myself
20:49.04Apocotank better
20:49.05NivFreakI had a toon on follow
20:49.05Apoco:p
20:49.09NivFreakI wasn't tanking them :P
20:49.10Gnarfozwoohoo euro 2008 finals :>
20:49.16Apocothen maybe you should have been!
20:49.21Gnarfoztoo bad this also means our raid on sunday is doomed ;D
20:49.56Apocoafk
20:50.22NivFreakApoco: to be fair, I think the guy tanking the adds died first
20:50.23NivFreakthen the healer
20:50.24profalbertGnarfoz: ours was doomed anyways, no matter who would have won today
20:50.59Gnarfozyeah, probably, but now even more so :D
20:51.18Funkeh`anyone have a framexml diff yet of the new ptr
20:51.34NivFreakI need to figure out a fast path to just kill garr and geddon
20:52.20Gnarfozif you're doing it with not that many people, you're better off also killing magmadar, otherwise you'll have to deal with corehounds respawning
20:52.28NeoTronso TF hasn't been a "great tanking weapon" for quite some time. why bother? :P just to ahve the legendary?
20:52.33Gnarfozonly one you can probably really leave out is gehennas
20:52.36selckininvisibility pots are win
20:52.45Gnarfozstyle probably :>
20:53.15sbfire elementals in mc are annoying :/
20:54.05Arrowmasterwe never kill mag on TF farm runs
20:54.16NivFreakNeoTron: for fun
20:54.23selckindid it once for fun
20:54.30selckinfarming it is a bit silly in my book
20:54.53Arrowmasterour 15man rag kill had fucking retarded dps compared to lvl60 40man rag kills
20:55.17NivFreakWe don't have enough people with vials to summon rag
20:55.18NivFreakhaha
20:55.26NivFreakI've been getting the shit on my other 2 lvl 70 alts
20:55.38Arrowmasterhe died with more than a minute left until first sons spawn
20:55.44NivFreakthe amusing part is, my one toon that has revered rep doesn't have it...
20:55.52NivFreakbecause it wasn't needed
20:56.26selckincan't you reget it if you destroyed?
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20:57.22AckisWorkyes you can
20:57.28AckisWorkyou need to do the quest though
21:01.43CIA-4403ananhaid * r77424 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua:
21:01.43CIA-44LittleWigs:
21:01.43CIA-44- Kael'thasSunstrider zhCN update.
21:02.31NivFreakI need to get my alts honored though =/
21:03.11laegdoes anybody know when the wowace website will be back up?
21:03.52ZyndromeIHDJSJHDSLJSD
21:03.57ZyndromeI ....... hate ........ Sunwell
21:04.04ZyndromeConqueror? forget it!
21:04.25NivFreakhaha
21:04.27ZyndromeVanquisher? hell yes! thousands of them! enough to feed an army or two
21:04.33Zurikif you do too many who's in a row .. will it ban you from the who for a specific amount of time?
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21:08.00sbsame here Zyndrome
21:08.30Zyndromecome on , anyone who can use vanquisher now gets it for min dkp for offspecs
21:09.02Zyndrome"oh shit, dropped conq token *max bid rush*"
21:09.36laegcan anybody recommend a warcraft forum apart from blizzard's own?
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21:12.18NeoTronso the master looter messed up and gave thw wrong bracer token to a hunter (a warlock one) (unfortunately the master looter was me)
21:12.40NeoTronso the hunter opened a ticket to get said token transferred to me. we had two drop so another warlock got the token that night
21:12.57NeoTronguess who the hunter told the GM to transfer the token to? Me who didn't get one or the other warlock who did...
21:13.00NeoTronGngngn
21:13.34Gnarfoz?
21:13.43Gnarfozit's not the receivers responsibility to open that kind of ticket in the first place
21:13.46Gnarfozit's yours.
21:13.55Matrix110all have to open tickets:P
21:13.58Gnarfozno.
21:14.00Gnarfozjust the ML
21:14.05Matrix110Yeah sure
21:14.10NeoTronno
21:14.16NeoTronthe recipient of the item has to open the ticket
21:14.17Matrix110thats why the gm mocks you for telling everyone to write them
21:14.26NeoTronyou can't tella GM to take an item from someone else
21:14.41Matrix110I had several ML mistakes
21:14.48NeoTronSo I have I. 3 to be exact.
21:15.01NeoTronfirst time I opened a ticket and was told that the incorrect recipient had to open it
21:15.04Gnarfozwell, on our server, it's always been "tell the ML to open a ticket"
21:15.05profalbertNeoTron: the GM will contact the one who got the item
21:15.11Matrix110No profalbert
21:15.19Gnarfozand they'll conctact the recipient
21:15.21NeoTronthe person who got the item opens the ticket.
21:15.22Gnarfozlike he says
21:15.25profalberthe did contact me once
21:15.26Matrix110Atleast here both have to write a ticket
21:15.30Gnarfoz(incidentally, he's on my server ^^)
21:15.31NeoTronthat is how my server rolls
21:15.45NeoTronthe item was transferred. to the wrong warlock.
21:15.50NeoTronto make it worse said warlock quit.
21:15.56NeoTronand no longer logs on to fix the issue
21:16.52NeoTronnot a huge issue but irritating since no lock bracer dropped this week
21:17.10Josh_BorkeApoco: i'm not sure
21:17.17Josh_BorkeApoco: i haven't seen that error before
21:17.31Josh_Borke["message"] = "Interface\\AddOns\\Ace2\\AceLibrary\\AceLibrary.lua:218: cannot change a protected metatable",
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21:26.34laegcan anybody recommend a warcraft forum apart from blizzard's own?
21:27.42Stanzillahttp://elitistjerks.com/
21:27.50laegty
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21:32.59Zurikwhat would cause the wholib to just queue but never return any results?
21:34.44NeoTronso last nigh it seems Omen bugged out on taunting on Brutallus. Specifically we had a case where our 2nd tank taunted and didn't get the threat. I presume it was due to brutallus happening to turn to apply Burn at that very moment
21:35.29NeoTronwouldn't it be possible to made threat proactively avoid falling for random raid targeting abilities? (assuming that was the problem)
21:37.06vithoswasn't a taunt resist?
21:39.13NeoTronno no
21:39.16NeoTronbrutallus changed target
21:39.20NeoTronor we'd wiped :P
21:39.46NeoTronbut taunt is sensitive to random target changes since it takes the threat of the mobs current target
21:40.01NeoTronbut there has to be a way to make 1 second or less target changes not count against it. :-/
21:41.17vithosah
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21:43.57NeoTronreally blizz just needs an api
21:44.11NeoTronUnitThreat("mob", "player")
21:44.22AckisWorkWotLK maybe?
21:44.25NeoTronor threat events
21:44.32NeoTronthey said they might implement their own threat meter
21:44.43NeoTronbut so far I don't think any leaks indicate it's there (yet)
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22:01.49AckisWorklua> local _, _, itemid = string.find("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:0:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r", "^|c%x+|Hitem:([0-9]+)[:0-9]+|h%[.+%]");return itemid
22:01.50lua_botAckisWork: 7073
22:02.15AckisWorklua> local _, _, itemid = string.find("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:2564:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r", "^|c%x+|Hitem:([0-9]+)[:0-9]+|h%[.+%]");return itemid
22:02.15lua_botAckisWork: 7073
22:02.32Arrowmasterwtf are you trying to do
22:03.46Arrowmasterlua> string.match("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:2564:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r", "item:(%d+)")
22:03.46lua_botArrowmaster: 7073
22:04.36AckisWorkwas trying to get the itemid out of an item link
22:04.54AckisWorkand your regexp is really nice and tiny compared to mine
22:05.09CIA-44amp: 03Tekkub 07master * rdf5afcf 10/: I guess I'll rename to Ampere, ugh... whiney bitches
22:07.05Arrowmasterlua> string.match("|cff9d9d9d|Hitem:7073:2564:0:0:0:0:0:0|h[Broken Fang]|h|r", "|c(%x+)|Hitem:(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%d+):(%-?%d+):(%-?%d+)|h%[(.-)%]|h|r")
22:07.06lua_botArrowmaster: ff9d9d9d, 7073, 2564, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, Broken Fang
22:16.21NeoTronwhat addons are there to report the last events before someone died?
22:16.31AckisWorkrecount, grimreaper?
22:16.33NeoTronlike death replay in recount or grim reaper, that is neither?
22:16.41NeoTronrecount is buggy as hell
22:16.54NeoTrongrim reaper reports the last X events and is thus useless after the tank has been ressed
22:17.10dodgaExpiration ftw
22:17.46NeoTronthat's one I've heard of before but forgot the name of
22:17.55CIA-4403danielbarron * r77425 10RaidBuffStatus/ (8 files): (log message trimmed)
22:17.55CIA-44RaidBuffStatus:
22:17.55CIA-44- Fixed some bugs with temporary weapon buff checking.
22:17.55CIA-44- Removed the warning about temporary weapon buff checking being experimental. It seems to work but is range limited.
22:17.55CIA-44- Mele dps with a temporary weapon buff and are in a group with an enhancement shaman will show a warning.
22:17.57CIA-44- Reworked Paladin blessing checking to cope with fringe scenarios better.
22:17.59CIA-44- Party based buffs now show in the tooltip who the buffers are, as well.
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22:22.04aestilgiven a choice between 64bit xp and 64bit vista, to take advantage of > 3gigs of ram, which is the better choice?
22:22.08AckisWorkanyway I can mimic the output of aceserailizer?
22:22.17AckisWorkVista over XP 64bit imo
22:22.21AckisWorkway better support
22:22.37ArrowmasterAckisWork: yes, use AceSerializer
22:22.47profalbertaestil: also would take vista
22:22.57AckisWorkI can't test it out w/o being ingame though Arrowmaster
22:23.32Arrowmasterwhy not?
22:24.02AckisWorkeverytime I've tried to load libraries etc w/ the lua command link things go poof
22:24.05Poul|Raiderany wiki that tells abit about which contains what, of the common.mpq patch.mpq patch-2.mpq common-2.mpq
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22:25.07aestilfollow up question
22:25.36aestiltheoretically, computer will run better on 64bit vista, than it would on 32 bit vista, since the computer has 4gigs of ram?
22:25.58Arrowmasterdepends
22:26.23Arrowmasterdo 64bit drivers exist for all your hardware?
22:26.34aestilits a brand new computer
22:26.43aestili'm assuming that i have no unusual hardware on it.
22:27.00Arrowmasteris it premade or did you build it yourself?
22:27.08aestilits like, some sort of nvidia video card [such a huge upgrade over what i have, and overkill for wow at 19x12 that i didn't look to far into it.]
22:27.21CIA-4403ackis * r77426 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua:
22:27.21CIA-44TIRaid:
22:27.21CIA-44- Add some debugging statements and comments for LOOT_OPENED()
22:27.21CIA-44- Turned off communcation in LOOT_OPENED()
22:27.21CIA-44- Dry-coded (compiles w/ luca -p)
22:27.45Arrowmasterbecause premade from the big OEMs tend to have custom hardware, or atleast hardware with different identifers
22:29.29Gnarfozif it was premade from an OEM, wouldn't a OS already be on it?
22:30.26Arrowmasteryes but those suck
22:30.38Gnarfozindeed
22:30.50Gnarfozbut it'd answer the question of 'are drivers available'
22:31.06Arrowmasternot if it comes with just 32bit vista
22:31.27Gnarfoztrue, but if it has 4gigs, that's unlikely
22:31.36Gnarfozat least sanity dictates that
22:31.51Arrowmastertheres nothing sane about OEMs
22:31.51Gnarfozsanity is not on good terms with reality, though
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22:35.23aestilits a 32 bit os with 4gigs of ram, i'm almost sure
22:35.26aestilits dell.
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22:35.58aestildecent deal, and although i could have got the whole thing for about 400 bucks cheaper if i built it myself, i would have had to pay for it all up front, instead of no intrest for 12 months, and i'd have no one to bitch at if shit breaks.
22:36.10ZealotOnAStickyou can use more than 3ish gigs of ram on 32 bit XP, but y ou have to enable PAE
22:36.12aestilrwell, i'm assuming itsa  32 bit os.
22:36.31NeoTronWTB T6 prot warrior that khows his shit PST
22:36.33ZealotOnAStickI'm not sure on Vista 32.
22:37.09JyggaVista is just a crappy windows 7 beta ... dont expect anything from it ^^
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22:37.23NeoTronWindows ME of the XP line
22:37.41Arrowmasterwindows 7 better not be like vista
22:38.04OmpalumpaI thought the whole of existance destoryed all records of Windows ME?
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22:38.54aestili have a T6 prot warrior as a personal close friend of mine?
22:38.58aestil8/8 T6
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22:39.03aestilperhaps i can be of assistnace.
22:39.19aestilwhat is PAE?
22:39.38NeoTronaestil: alliance, LFG, able to late (reasonbly) late PST? heh
22:39.50aestiloh.
22:39.51aestilno.
22:39.52NeoTronwe need a prot warrior for M'uru and one that is truly dedicated to his trade. :P
22:39.54aestilalliance yes.
22:40.06aestilwe are on our 3rd week of etwins
22:40.12aestilhowever, this last week [the second]
22:40.16aestilwas our first good attempts
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22:40.21aestilfirst week was a few hours
22:40.25aestili think they die this week.
22:40.56NeoTronwe lost our MT warrior and our backup tank warrior in about 1 week
22:41.37aestilouch
22:41.41aestilthats gonna slow things down.
22:42.49NeoTrondo you strictly need a warrior for m'uru or does prot pally work?
22:43.06NeoTronwe have a very well geared holy pally (who tanked illidan sunday - first time tanking that fight) and kalecgos last night
22:45.13NeoTronso guess you need a warrior for the void blast thing
22:46.48NivFreakI thought there was some reason that required a warrior tank on illidan, but that sounds like no :)
22:47.57CIA-4403Ompalumpa * r77427 10LittleWigs/Ahune.lua:
22:47.57CIA-44LittleWigs:
22:47.57CIA-44- Ahune timing tweaks
22:49.09DeloralaNivFreak: Shear (illidan) can be avoided by protpalas easily
22:49.10Arrowmasterits only druid that cant tank illidan
22:49.27NivFreakahh
22:49.36NivFreakthat was it
22:51.34AvrysNivFreak - Only druids who can't tank it
22:52.30KuosiI've tanked illidan on my pala
22:53.28NivFreakyep
22:53.46NivFreakI was misremembering, and we're not quite to him yet
22:53.50NivFreakWTB 100 HoD
22:54.10CIA-4403philosound * r77428 10Poppins/Modules/Poppins_Durations/Poppins_Durations.lua:
22:54.10CIA-44Poppins:
22:54.10CIA-44- first duration, then timeLeft
22:54.12CIA-4403odlaw * r77429 10PassLoot/Modules/Quality.lua: PassLoot: Quality match fix
22:55.18NeoTronNivFreak: my guild will sell you those HoD's for probably around 35000 gold
22:56.11NivFreakhaha
22:56.27NivFreakI can get them for 300G each on my server
22:56.42NeoTronI admit I haven't kept up to speed with the pricing
22:56.51NivFreakand my gbank is poor, we've never been far enough in progression to have anything the market isn't flooded in
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23:10.35CIA-4403Ompalumpa * r77430 10LittleWigs/ (Ahune.lua Coilfang/Ahune.lua):
23:10.35CIA-44LittleWigs:
23:10.35CIA-44- Fixed commit mistake
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23:14.43Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, around?
23:14.49Arrowmasteryes
23:15.31Poul|Raideri played alittle with the textures from the mpq files, setting a few minimap together, but the result is not that pritty, like some of the images are having different shadows or something- know anyhting about that?
23:15.49Arrowmasternope
23:15.56Poul|Raiderits nok like you see any difference ingame where the textures go from one to a nother
23:15.58Poul|Raideranother
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23:17.00Poul|Raideror hmm ingame it looks like it layer more then one texture on top of eachother
23:17.17e2xguys is there any addon that does what recouunt used to do.. with incoming packets from addon comm channel?
23:21.52Arrowmasterswstats?
23:22.06Arrowmasterwhy do you need addon comm syncing?
23:22.52NivFreakdo you really need 25 people to kill mother?
23:23.00NivFreakcan I sit retards that don't have SR Gear ready
23:23.16Arrowmasterits a long boring fight
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23:23.38NivFreakit looks like ~7500DPS to beat her enrage
23:23.48NivFreakbut I'm wondering what my healer's longevity will be in capped SR gear
23:24.09selckini'm usually pritty oom near the end (paladin)
23:24.23NivFreakso probably a bad idea when learning
23:24.37selckinmissing HoD?
23:24.40NivFreakyea
23:24.54selckintry to buy from other guilds :\
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23:24.56NivFreakand some people where just stupid enough to not farm mats
23:25.02NivFreakuntil we got to RoS
23:25.11selckinyou'll get plenty of extras to resell afterwards
23:25.22selckinmats are easy
23:25.31NivFreakwell here's how it worked
23:25.34NivFreakI banked all the HoD
23:25.42selckincan not craft legs aswel, and fill that with a green head + enchant or so
23:25.44NivFreakwhile we figured out what everyone needed
23:25.50NivFreakI told people to start farming thier mats
23:25.58Diaoyeah we're working on farming HoDs.. 8 after our first week in hyj so 142 to go :(
23:26.00e2x4again, anyone know an addon to see the ammount of incoming data from addon comm channel?
23:26.02NivFreakand then I opened hearts on a first come first server basis (with mats)
23:26.07NivFreakserve
23:26.24Arrowmastere2x: FuBar_AddonSpamFu, and dont use colors
23:26.49Apococolors are bad mmmkah
23:26.53selckingbank poor?
23:27.02NivFreakonly a couple grand in there
23:27.20NeoTronour bank sits around 100k
23:27.24ApocoNivFreak: to answer your question about mother, no its easily doable with 10-15 people
23:27.37selckinyea its not hard
23:27.42NivFreakI guess less people is less raid dmg
23:27.50selckinbut its easy to get mats too
23:27.52ApocoI just have the healers not heal all of the retards
23:27.56Apocoand so they die early
23:28.06NivFreakI just want to sit the dumbshits who didn't farm mats
23:28.08NivFreakto make a point
23:28.27NivFreakbecause it's one thing if they had to augment their shit with greens because we were short on hearts
23:28.27Apocoyou dont really need shadow resist tbh
23:29.02NeoTronw/o shadow resist a teleport is very likely to lead to your demise
23:29.30selckine2x: spamfu or something
23:29.38e2xlets see
23:29.40e2xthx a lot
23:29.57selckinNeoTron: just tell em to get it by next raid, anyone who can't click buyout or farm for 1 hour is fail
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23:31.12NeoTronselckin: not disagreeing, just stating that "sr isn't needed" is false
23:31.26NeoTronif you go in with a raid w/o SR entirely you'll fail badly
23:31.42NeoTronunles you have people with supernatural reactions and zero latency
23:31.57Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, looks like each mpq file got a md5translate.trs but no idea which one is updated one :(
23:32.07Apoconeo I think at max sr resist I've worn on mother is like 90 buffed
23:32.17ArrowmasterPoul|Raider: pull the one from the patch.mpq
23:32.18selckinalts with like 200 sr from only green seem to stay alive with minimal problems (we're in sunwell now tho)
23:32.24selckindps requirements are low too
23:32.35Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, ok thats the newest one?
23:32.37ApocoI wear more tanking illidan
23:32.41Apocothan I do on mother
23:34.31NivFreakwell, that point is certainly valid
23:34.32NivFreakBUT
23:34.39NivFreakit's more about putting in the effort
23:34.44NivFreakif 22 people can farm thier mats
23:34.47NivFreakand 3 can't
23:34.50NivFreakI want to sit the 3
23:34.55Apocothat I would agree with
23:34.56NivFreakit's not fair to everyone else
23:35.11selckin22 is plenty
23:35.11Apocosr gear is easy shit to make as long as you have the hearts
23:35.15selckinjust go for it
23:35.16Apocobut anymore hearts arent hard to get tbh
23:35.33NivFreakhearts are easy to get, they just cost 300G
23:35.39selckincheck if they enchanted their SR gear too
23:35.40NivFreakso for say, our rogue who has zero resist
23:35.47NivFreakhe's likely dropping ~1800G
23:35.56NivFreakto get them
23:37.00NeoTronI happen to have exactly 365 SR (not yusing the necklace though )
23:37.10NeoTronfor illidan maxed SR is good. it's not required for mother
23:37.26NeoTronbut going with 90 SR as buffed raid average would be asking for trouble
23:37.38ApocoI didnt say the rest of the raid did it
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23:37.41ApocoI just said I did it
23:37.42Apocohahaha
23:38.02selckinjust potentially puts more stress on healers
23:38.09NivFreakI've had a maxed shadow resist set since I started heroics
23:38.10selckinsince the 3k mana drain can be annoying
23:38.21NivFreakit was fun being one of the few tanks on the server that could do heroic MT before all the nerfs
23:38.22ApocoI've had one since the day I entered BT
23:38.24Apocofully enchanted
23:38.28NivFreakbut it was nice to upgrade mine to epic SR
23:38.37ApocoI still have my full fr set from molten core
23:38.54selckinlacks stamina to be usefull
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23:38.59selckinsame with the NR from aq
23:39.01Pkekyo|I FUCKING HATE EBAY
23:39.15Poul|RaiderArrowmaster, got the best result with the one from common.mpq
23:39.19Apocodoesnt mean its not nice to have around if need be
23:39.32Apocoits funny to duel a destro lock who does nothing but spam that fire thingy
23:39.38Apocoput on level 60 resist gear and complete resist him
23:39.50ArrowmasterPoul|Raider: you need to extract everything in the correct order overwriting the older files with newer ones
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23:41.40Poul|Raiderare there any timestamp in them, so i could detect which is the newest?
23:42.17Arrowmasterno, common is the oldest and patch is the newest
23:42.48philosound_any knows if the delay between unit_spellcast_succeeded and getting the new info from GetPlayerBuff is in any way predictable?
23:42.49NivFreakI love dualing locks with my SR gear
23:42.58NivFreakeven fire locks, they can't fear or deathcoil me very well
23:42.59philosound_assuming it´s a buff on self
23:43.03NivFreakI can kill them as prot
23:43.21Poul|Raiderand when we get wotlk at some point, will hte common from that be newer then the patch or is it just the same files used all the time, extending em and such?
23:43.40Arrowmastercommon is always older
23:43.43Poul|Raideroki
23:43.44Poul|Raiderthx
23:43.46Arrowmasterand patch is always newer
23:44.02Arrowmasterall the wotlk stuff would be in an expansion2 one
23:44.21Arrowmasterjust like how all the tbc stuff is in the expansion1
23:44.26Poul|Raidermight have mixed something up then, as the image was looking bad
23:45.34Poul|Raiderfrom what i can see, wotlk comes with a common-2.mpq and a lichking.mpq
23:45.49Poul|Raiderbut not that important now anyway
23:47.26Zurikwhat is the SetScript for a CheckBoxTemplate?  like is it OnClick?  or OnSelect ..
23:47.38Zurikoops.. wrong channel
23:47.48Arrowmasterthe common-2 would include anything needed for those without the expansion, such as item models and textures
23:48.03Arrowmasterand would be loaded 2nd
23:50.02Poul|Raiderahh
23:50.17Poul|Raidermight be where i fucked up, i was loading textures from patch-2
23:50.24Poul|Raiderso gonna check from patch instead
23:51.39Arrowmasteryoull need them all
23:52.21Poul|Raiderjust extract from oldes and overwrite etc ?
23:52.28Poul|Raideroldest first
23:52.31Arrowmasteryeah
23:52.33Poul|Raideroki
23:52.50Arrowmasterdoing it in alpha order should be fine
23:53.09Arrowmastercommon, common-2, expansion, lichking, patch, patch-2
23:53.25Poul|Raideri want to make a tool that load all the textures and save them as big maps dynamic from the mp5translate
23:53.43Arrowmasterdidnt somebody say that already existed
23:54.03Poul|Raiderim just doing to learn and try something new
23:54.24Arrowmasterwhat are you using to extract the mpqs?
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23:55.10Poul|Raiderjust reading it as bitstreams
23:55.29Poul|Raiderfound some c# opensource project doing it
23:55.53Poul|Raiderso just tolk the basics that i needed from it to open it
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23:57.12CIA-44Decursive:
23:57.12CIA-44- Internal cleaning (clear a MUF debuffs before hiding it)
23:57.12CIA-44- Prevent alert sound loop from happening.
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