| 00:02.47 | Poul|Raider | ye Arrowmaster, it worked if i tolk the md5 file from the patch.mpq :) |
| 00:03.22 | Poul|Raider | are the version number of the client stored somewhere in the mpq files? |
| 00:03.35 | Arrowmaster | i think thats in the exe |
| 00:04.56 | daemona | uhmm... anyone able to open http://forums.roguespot.com ? |
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| 00:07.26 | Draele | Quick question, folks. |
| 00:08.02 | Draele | What's a good replacement for Moveanything/Visor/etc. I can't seem to find an addon to move screen elements that doesn't bug out or stop getting updated... |
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| 00:10.56 | Arrowmaster | not MoveIt |
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| 00:14.31 | winkiller | daemona: nope |
| 00:14.47 | durcyn | visor isn't broken |
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| 00:16.01 | Draele | Half the time when I log in it doesnt flat out work. Or the frames I've previously moved will reset |
| 00:16.01 | winkiller | visor works fine 90% |
| 00:17.04 | Poul|Raider | Arrowmaster, know if there are a listfile in the mpq named something difference then the default? |
| 00:17.30 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 00:17.41 | Poul|Raider | the tool i found, saying no listfile found |
| 00:17.54 | Poul|Raider | wiki said, its a file telling what hte mpq contains |
| 00:18.15 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 00:18.17 | Poul|Raider | oki |
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| 00:21.19 | Draele | I wish the Discord Suite was still around...It took a while to set up what you wanted but when you made a change it would stick and you could make it do anything you wanted. |
| 00:24.39 | Arrowmaster | but anything you wanted doesnt include cutting your fps into like 1/5th |
| 00:24.51 | Arrowmaster | er not cutting your fps by 1/5th |
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| 00:32.36 | Xelopheris | When was the last time the code for VisualHeal embeded in pitbull was ever looked at? |
| 00:33.24 | ulic | it should be embeded dynamically, so what is the most current version should be what is in PitBull |
| 00:34.16 | ulic | provide you get your updates from wowace |
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| 00:38.34 | Funkeh` | anything interestig going on |
| 00:38.34 | Funkeh` | been pvping all evening |
| 00:38.36 | Funkeh` | k sleep it is then |
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| 00:50.09 | CIA-44 | LittleWigs: |
| 00:50.09 | CIA-44 | - Update zhTW localization. |
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| 00:51.55 | NimbleRabit | back after a 2 month break from WoW, any super amazing unbelievably cool mods come out in that time? =P |
| 00:53.28 | Gary13579 | automacro, but we don't talk 'bout it round these parts :P |
| 00:53.53 | NimbleRabit | lol |
| 00:54.58 | e2x | Is there any comand to disable Threat-2.0 for a while? |
| 00:55.56 | NivFreak | automacro? |
| 00:56.50 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:56.50 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 00:58.12 | NivFreak | Gary13579: is that maleware or something? |
| 01:00.13 | NivFreak | ah, something they screwed up, and nerfed in 2.4.3 it seems |
| 01:02.55 | RaydenUni | what sort of stats should i be looking at to tank in mag? druid |
| 01:07.09 | Apoco | the same as any boss |
| 01:07.17 | Apoco | defense, dodge, hp |
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| 01:14.20 | Poul|Raider | gmatch(mapName .. "\\map(%d%d)_(%d%d)%.blp\t(%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x%x)%.blp") is % a escapechar? |
| 01:14.34 | Poul|Raider | or well must be |
| 01:14.41 | Poul|Raider | what is %x ? |
| 01:15.57 | Ellipsis | %x is a hexadecimal digit and %d is a decimal digit |
| 01:17.35 | Poul|Raider | is %x special to the lua regex, dont see hexidecimal on http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms972966.aspx |
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| 01:18.58 | vithos | i thought lua didn't have regex |
| 01:19.38 | JoshBorke | it doesn't |
| 01:19.45 | JoshBorke | it has patterns |
| 01:19.48 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 01:19.53 | Megalon | similar to regex, but not the same |
| 01:19.54 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis. Hard. - Very hard. (Just like Bond. - James Bond) |
| 01:19.55 | vithos | k |
| 01:20.24 | Poul|Raider | but hmm, dont Regex have a \hexidecimal thing to use to match it :( |
| 01:21.21 | Megalon | Poul|Raider: %x is pretty much a shortcut for [0-9a-f] |
| 01:21.29 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 01:21.34 | Poul|Raider | jsut realized that to |
| 01:21.51 | Megalon | ya, not the hexvalue of the char itself ;) |
| 01:23.30 | Poul|Raider | \\map(\d{2})_(\d{2})\.blp\t([0-9a-f]{32})\.blp |
| 01:23.34 | Poul|Raider | that should do |
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| 01:40.01 | Ackis | doesn't like raiding anymore |
| 01:40.40 | elite3vil | Reading my mind, eh Ackis? |
| 01:41.26 | Ackis | no |
| 01:41.30 | CIA-44 | 03hshh * r77433 10Mendeleev/Mendeleev.lua: Mendeleev: prune cache after change profile sub options |
| 01:41.31 | Ackis | just not happy right now |
| 01:41.39 | elite3vil | Me either |
| 01:41.46 | starlon | noobs fucking up? |
| 01:41.50 | elite3vil | What's wrong in your neck of the woods? |
| 01:41.51 | Ackis | kinda want to see how mnay times I can get docked |
| 01:41.54 | Ackis | half of our raid is trials |
| 01:42.05 | elite3vil | ew. that sucks. |
| 01:42.17 | elite3vil | docked.. dkp? |
| 01:43.32 | Arrowmaster | wtf is hshh changing in Mendeleev and why? |
| 01:43.52 | elite3vil | Starlon: Not so much noobs fucking up.. I'm dealing with an attention/lootwhore who's sleeping with the raid leader. |
| 01:44.42 | elite3vil | and people just not showing up on time |
| 01:45.00 | elite3vil | supposed to start at 5:30 server, we haven't been starting til 6:35-ish |
| 01:46.45 | DARKGuy | Ackis: trials? |
| 01:47.41 | elite3vil | new recruits |
| 01:48.24 | DARKGuy | oh |
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| 01:48.52 | DARKGuy | yeah, well, bosses are hard.... they have to get used to it |
| 01:52.53 | aestil | is there a proc watch type of mod, working with new combat log? |
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| 02:01.54 | Lukian | aestil, what exactly do you want it to do? |
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| 02:07.16 | aestil | track proc's? |
| 02:07.25 | aestil | i'm asking for a guildie |
| 02:07.30 | aestil | so i'm not sure what proc they want to track |
| 02:07.34 | aestil | was a rogue though |
| 02:07.37 | aestil | maybe poisons? |
| 02:07.40 | aestil | or WF? |
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| 02:37.35 | Knaledge | looking for an Ace based addon that will show me what skills I can train when they become available to me |
| 02:37.44 | Knaledge | complete with a tooltip or description of the new skill/rank |
| 02:38.14 | Knaledge | anything like that? |
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| 02:38.27 | Lukian | I saw one the other day |
| 02:38.32 | Lukian | I think it was called School |
| 02:38.34 | Ackis | wiping on muru for almost 2 hours now |
| 02:39.08 | Lukian | Knaledge, PS. wowhead.com works fine too :P |
| 02:39.27 | Knaledge | yeah too bad that isn't an addon, or in-game. |
| 02:39.48 | Knaledge | thanks for the reminder about the internet. |
| 02:40.09 | Arrowmaster | Knaledge: FuBar_TrainerFu but it hasnt been updated in a while |
| 02:40.25 | Knaledge | Yea neither has "school" apparently |
| 02:40.29 | Knaledge | has much changed in the past month? |
| 02:40.36 | Arrowmaster | school is really outdated though |
| 02:40.48 | Arrowmaster | trainerfu still mostly works |
| 02:40.55 | Knaledge | mostly? |
| 02:41.17 | Arrowmaster | well if you have more than 1 character of the same class it gets confused |
| 02:42.20 | Knaledge | ah.. hrm even for low level alts? |
| 02:42.30 | Knaledge | Well - what about actively though? |
| 02:42.39 | Knaledge | I wouldn't enable it on my rogue (70) or my bank alt (rogue level 2) |
| 02:42.43 | Arrowmaster | and on my rogue its a little confused on poisons due to the poison skill it seems, although that only showed up when my poison skill went above 300 |
| 02:42.56 | Knaledge | but I would have it active on my alt (hunter, level 19) of which is my only hunter |
| 02:43.08 | Arrowmaster | oh its fine its just on the bank alt it will say theres stuff thats trainable that isnt |
| 02:43.24 | Knaledge | ah ok - I just won't enable it on my bank alt , etc. |
| 02:43.39 | Knaledge | so I should be good though if I just have it on my hunter )and it's my only hunter?) |
| 02:43.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats the only reason i even noticed that bug |
| 02:43.47 | Knaledge | word |
| 02:43.50 | Lukian | Knaledge, why are you interested in such an addon? |
| 02:43.59 | Gnarfoz | well, simply go visit a trainer every 2 levels and buy every skill. no need for an addon like this xD |
| 02:44.01 | Lukian | Do you grind 3-5 levels and once then go for training? XD |
| 02:44.02 | Knaledge | Lastly - does it show a little bit of info about the rank/skill? |
| 02:44.11 | Arrowmaster | Lukian: its helpful to know if its worth while to go back to train or not |
| 02:44.26 | Knaledge | Yeah let's also just not use OMen and remember how many cycles it takes to overtake a tank on threat |
| 02:44.38 | Knaledge | and while we're at it, let's jot down and remember all the loot that drops off of every boss |
| 02:44.44 | Lukian | I can't use wowhead.com to check my threat :p |
| 02:44.47 | Arrowmaster | Knaledge: yeah it does, it shows a tooltip of the skill but that part hasnt been updated for 2.4 so its saving the skill and creating a custom tooltip |
| 02:44.48 | Knaledge | hell, let's even remember who needs heals and when |
| 02:44.58 | Lukian | but I can have it open on a 2nd monitor with the list of class skills |
| 02:45.03 | Knaledge | The point is - I power level, 10 at a time |
| 02:45.13 | Knaledge | and I don't want to waste time going back/forth if I don't need to. |
| 02:45.29 | Knaledge | if it's some shit skill, I'm not wasting time dropping back to neutral zones to train so beat ass skill. |
| 02:45.43 | Lukian | yeah that's why I have wowhead open :p |
| 02:45.49 | Knaledge | and going onto the internet to look shit up is stupid also |
| 02:45.55 | Lukian | why? |
| 02:45.57 | Knaledge | because you're the idiot that would suggest looking up loot too |
| 02:46.01 | Gnarfoz | you are already on the internet when you're playing wow |
| 02:46.09 | Lukian | I'm playing wow while typing to you |
| 02:46.12 | Knaledge | yeah, no thanks. |
| 02:46.14 | Arrowmaster | also on alts its helpful to know if you even have enough gold before you go and try to train |
| 02:46.14 | Lukian | how hard is it? |
| 02:46.26 | Gnarfoz | how can you not have "enough gold" on alts |
| 02:46.27 | Knaledge | How hard is it to look loot up during a raid for the next boss? |
| 02:46.36 | Knaledge | win. |
| 02:46.38 | Gnarfoz | Knaledge: it's... rather simple? |
| 02:46.43 | Knaledge | diaf |
| 02:46.46 | Knaledge | thanks Arrowmaster :) |
| 02:46.47 | Lukian | wowwiki.com/Bossnamehere |
| 02:46.54 | Gnarfoz | besides, you already know what you want of boss X anyway |
| 02:47.00 | Gnarfoz | if you have to look it up, gtfo my raid ^^ |
| 02:47.00 | Knaledge | www.fail.com/lukian |
| 02:47.02 | Lukian | and you can learn a few things you might have forgotten or missed while you are there |
| 02:52.37 | DARKGuy | hey, is there an addon that can tell me a summary of a battle and say which ability hit more, highest crits, dps, etc? |
| 02:53.12 | Lukian | recount :/ |
| 02:53.44 | DARKGuy | but that only shows me bars :o |
| 02:53.53 | Lukian | click them |
| 02:54.41 | Gary13579 | click them, right click them |
| 02:54.46 | Gary13579 | different pages bring up different menus |
| 02:55.01 | DARKGuy | heey just what I was looking for |
| 02:55.03 | DARKGuy | thanks :D |
| 02:55.08 | Lukian | you can use the "timesheet" icon to choose from the last 5 battles :p |
| 02:55.33 | Gary13579 | been using it for ~6 months and still don't know everything |
| 02:55.43 | Gary13579 | has a lot of stuff in it |
| 02:55.51 | Lukian | yeah recount is the kitchen sink of damagemeters |
| 02:55.58 | Lukian | with the memory and cpu usage to go with it ;) |
| 02:56.46 | DARKGuy | Lukian: timesheet o.o? |
| 02:57.02 | Lukian | above the bars. |
| 02:57.10 | Lukian | click one of those :p |
| 02:57.39 | elite3vil | whee. twoshot brut, oneshot kalec |
| 02:57.39 | DARKGuy | ahh those |
| 02:59.03 | Bruners | what is a good lightweight alternative to recount? |
| 02:59.50 | ulic | violation if it ever got updated, but personally I don't have a problem with recount. |
| 03:00.55 | Bruners | playing on my old computer during the summer so need to cut down on most things |
| 03:02.54 | ulic | don't know that any dmg meter is really more light than another, they all have to scan and process combat log events. |
| 03:03.01 | vithos | i dropped recount and replaced it with nothing, just WWS |
| 03:03.25 | vithos | though i do miss having it |
| 03:03.55 | ulic | I've turned it off my healer, just use for my dps, but even then I know usually about where I'm at in a group. |
| 03:04.07 | ulic | and wws after the fact is good enough to compare. |
| 03:05.15 | vithos | it is useful to be able to compare the difference immediately when you try something different though |
| 03:05.24 | vithos | i miss assessment |
| 03:05.55 | vithos | reviewing WWS later i'm not going to remember which pull was which |
| 03:05.59 | ulic | I miss assessment also |
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| 03:15.49 | CIA-44 | 03ckknight * r77434 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Categories/Status.lua: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 - optimization to [RaidGroup] |
| 03:25.06 | Dark_Elf | ponders if cart3 will be supporting addon modules like cart2 did? also ponders why some of cart2 mods are still being updated if cart3 is the future lol, me ponders to much |
| 03:26.17 | vithos | my guess is because a lot of people use cart2. |
| 03:27.03 | vithos | and the guildposition change was to switch to a library so it will work between versions/different map addons |
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| 03:31.08 | ckknight | Dark_Elf: I've also been hacking Cart2 to support Cart3 well |
| 03:31.19 | ckknight | you can run both at the same time, so you can have old modules run in the new interface |
| 03:32.06 | Dark_Elf | oh i thought that update made it disable cart2 if cart3 was loaded |
| 03:32.43 | ckknight | it disables Cart's LookNFeel and Foglight modules |
| 03:32.47 | ckknight | since they conflict |
| 03:33.25 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77435 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua: |
| 03:33.26 | CIA-44 | LittleWigs: |
| 03:33.26 | CIA-44 | - koKR Update |
| 03:33.30 | Dark_Elf | anyways ya answered my question as to wherther the old mods work with 3 like questinfo, and quest objectives, |
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| 03:35.03 | ckknight | they work if you run both Cart2 and Cart3 at the same time |
| 03:35.21 | ckknight | the only way they'd work without Cart2 is if they themselves are ported |
| 03:35.26 | ckknight | which will happen for some modules |
| 03:35.31 | ckknight | e.g. Waypoints |
| 03:35.39 | ckknight | btw, new Cartographer3 release in 5 minutes |
| 03:35.46 | Dark_Elf | i will now, was holding back cause i didnt want to loose the old mods even though i like cart3 maps |
| 03:36.03 | ckknight | instances still need some work |
| 03:36.30 | ckknight | but it's getting there |
| 03:36.32 | ckknight | quite fast |
| 03:36.56 | ckknight | v0.5 (which I'm releasing now) adds support for battlegrounds |
| 03:37.43 | vithos | are the battlegrounds at their world entrance locations? |
| 03:38.13 | Dark_Elf | think i will wait for v0.5.1 or whatever is next i have bad karma there will be another update lol |
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| 03:38.17 | vithos | i dont' think i saw how you did instance support when i tried it a while ago |
| 03:38.34 | ckknight | vithos: instances are off to the right side |
| 03:38.41 | ckknight | vithos: I stashed battlegrounds off to the left |
| 03:38.45 | vithos | ah |
| 03:38.48 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:38.50 | ckknight | yea, it's cheap |
| 03:38.52 | ckknight | but it works |
| 03:38.56 | Dark_Elf | oops typo lol not |
| 03:38.57 | ckknight | and it doesn't cause weird issues |
| 03:38.57 | vithos | so whichever one you're in is the one that'll be there? |
| 03:39.00 | vithos | or they're all in a cluster |
| 03:39.06 | ckknight | vithos: all 4 show |
| 03:39.17 | ckknight | and all instances show off to the right |
| 03:39.22 | vithos | i see |
| 03:39.31 | ckknight | you need to hover over the boxes to see the instances, though |
| 03:40.29 | ckknight | I do plan to have it so that there are buttons on the map where instances are to zoom to the instance |
| 03:40.34 | ckknight | so in Org, there will be an RFC button |
| 03:40.37 | ckknight | :-) |
| 03:41.00 | ckknight | that's low priority currently, though |
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| 03:41.44 | vithos | i'll have to see how it's coming along when you push that update |
| 03:41.52 | ckknight | it's on curseforge now |
| 03:42.02 | vithos | well, after this stupid BT raid |
| 03:42.39 | aestil | ckknight: instance loot is next? |
| 03:43.03 | ckknight | aestil: v0.6 is for waypoint support and better instance support, I don't think loot yet, though, that'd probably be v0.7 |
| 03:43.22 | ckknight | granted, my point releases seem to have been 3-4 days apart for the last few, so really, it won't be long |
| 03:43.24 | aestil | will it, at some point auto zoom to the instance you're in? |
| 03:43.28 | ckknight | oh yes. |
| 03:43.30 | ckknight | that's v0.6 |
| 03:43.33 | aestil | cool. |
| 03:43.38 | ckknight | do me a favor, though |
| 03:43.40 | ckknight | will you? |
| 03:43.42 | aestil | use it? |
| 03:43.46 | ckknight | make a ticket for that |
| 03:43.53 | aestil | autozoom? |
| 03:43.56 | ckknight | yes |
| 03:43.57 | aestil | ~jira |
| 03:43.58 | purl | Jira is an issue tracking system used by a lot of companies and open-source projects. Following is a short list of public Jiras. WoWAce: http://jira.wowace.com - Norganna: http://jira.norganna.org |
| 03:43.59 | ckknight | for instances |
| 03:44.01 | ckknight | ~cartographer3 |
| 03:44.02 | purl | i heard cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 03:44.02 | ckknight | not jira. |
| 03:44.09 | aestil | oh yeah. |
| 03:44.13 | ckknight | also, use it, find out things you don't like, find bugs, make tickets |
| 03:44.14 | ckknight | tickets are good |
| 03:44.21 | ckknight | I use the ticket milestone system as a to do list |
| 03:44.34 | aestil | i'll use it... as soon as i have waypoints. |
| 03:44.44 | aestil | i can't lose that functionality atm |
| 03:44.48 | ckknight | use Cart2 or TomTom temporarily |
| 03:44.55 | ckknight | you can use Cart3 and Cart2 at the same time |
| 03:45.01 | ckknight | to steal Cart2's modules |
| 03:46.20 | aestil | can it detect if the instance is regular or heroic? |
| 03:46.27 | ckknight | that's easy to detect |
| 03:46.33 | ckknight | there's also epic instances |
| 03:46.39 | ckknight | but non in WoW yet |
| 03:46.42 | ckknight | but the API's there |
| 03:47.39 | aestil | epic instances? |
| 03:47.49 | aestil | which is like the 10vs25 man versions of raids? |
| 03:52.27 | aestil | anyways, instance loot should show for heroic or non heroic version |
| 03:52.30 | aestil | instead of showing both |
| 03:52.37 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:54.45 | Fisker- | no u ckknight |
| 03:55.13 | RaydenUni | are there numbers on the proc % for the 2 piece t4 druid set bonus? |
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| 04:13.40 | aestil | they are gonna be announcing D3 right? |
| 04:16.27 | Fisker- | yup |
| 04:16.37 | Fisker- | if not i'll rape you and discard your broken corpse |
| 04:19.01 | Fisker- | i guess you don't approve? |
| 04:20.19 | Gary13579 | Anyone here use SimpleBossWhisperer? |
| 04:24.51 | Gary13579 | I don't think it's responding to whispers |
| 04:24.58 | Gary13579 | at least they're not showing up in my chat window |
| 04:27.12 | RaydenUni | i can't find numbers on druid t4 2pc proc % |
| 04:27.12 | RaydenUni | grr |
| 04:28.20 | RaydenUni | apparently wickedly awesome |
| 04:28.27 | RaydenUni | is there a mod that will track how often it procs? |
| 04:28.30 | RaydenUni | or some way of knowing? |
| 04:28.35 | RaydenUni | cause it seems like it's an invisible proc |
| 04:30.18 | aestil | i went to eat |
| 04:30.26 | aestil | i don't approve of you raping me. |
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| 04:37.03 | CIA-44 | 03nemes * r77436 10NDurability/ (. NDurability.lua NDurability.toc embeds.xml): |
| 04:37.03 | CIA-44 | NDurability: |
| 04:37.03 | CIA-44 | - remove LibCrayon and colourisation as they are just not necessary |
| 04:38.08 | RaydenUni | how long does it take for the armory to update after a logout? |
| 04:38.23 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 04:38.55 | Fisker- | but some minutes i guess |
| 04:39.33 | CIA-44 | 03nemes * r77437 10NDurability/NDurability.lua: |
| 04:39.33 | CIA-44 | NDurability: |
| 04:39.33 | CIA-44 | - remove unnecessary constant |
| 04:40.49 | Fisker- | ya hear me RaydenUni? |
| 04:41.48 | *** kick/#WoWAce [Fisker-!n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh] by Funkeh` (hear my shoe on your ass, bitch) |
| 04:41.49 | RaydenUni | a few minutes for my mom what? |
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| 04:42.11 | Fisker- | do go on |
| 04:42.50 | Fisker- | appears to be unstoppable |
| 04:43.27 | RaydenUni | bah |
| 04:43.30 | RaydenUni | it's taking too long |
| 04:43.31 | RaydenUni | sleep time |
| 04:43.46 | Fisker- | because armory fails at the moment |
| 04:43.52 | Fisker- | updates have been wacky for a week or so |
| 04:43.53 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 04:52.08 | CIA-44 | 03bam * r77438 10ItemPrice-1.1/ItemPrice-1.1.lua: |
| 04:52.08 | CIA-44 | ItemPrice-1.1: |
| 04:52.08 | CIA-44 | - Price updates. |
| 04:56.43 | CIA-44 | 03nemes * r77439 10Demon/ (Demon.toc core.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 04:56.43 | CIA-44 | Demon: |
| 04:56.43 | CIA-44 | - Get SpellIDs up in this bitch |
| 04:56.43 | CIA-44 | - Remove Babble-Spell |
| 04:56.43 | CIA-44 | - Prevent tracking of duplicate debuffs |
| 04:56.43 | CIA-44 | - Icons and removal of SEA coming... |
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| 05:06.27 | theoddone33 | anyone notice mass dispell being broken? |
| 05:07.15 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 05:07.19 | Gnarfoz | and onyxia breathes more |
| 05:07.27 | Gnarfoz | care to elaborate? :p |
| 05:07.38 | theoddone33 | I've cast it 3 times since s4 started |
| 05:07.44 | theoddone33 | and all 3 times it failed to take off divine shield |
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| 05:08.30 | theoddone33 | so 0% rate of success as compared to 99-100% before |
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| 05:10.22 | Diao | did it say resist |
| 05:10.27 | theoddone33 | now I gotta skirmish until i can confirm/deny this |
| 05:10.29 | theoddone33 | it said immune |
| 05:10.34 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r77440 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (Souls.lua Supremus.lua): |
| 05:10.34 | CIA-44 | RBM_BlackTemple: |
| 05:10.34 | CIA-44 | -zhCN update |
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| 05:10.41 | theoddone33 | which is the same thing it's said for as long as I've had a 70 priest |
| 05:10.41 | Diao | it always says immune, but sometimes it'll resist as well |
| 05:10.57 | Diao | maybe you're running into bad luck with stoicism |
| 05:11.12 | theoddone33 | says "mass dispell failed, jerkk was immune" |
| 05:11.21 | theoddone33 | "mass dispel fails to dispel jerkk's divine shield" |
| 05:11.25 | theoddone33 | that's it |
| 05:11.41 | theoddone33 | is "fails to dispel" the new combat log code for "resist"? |
| 05:12.26 | Gnarfoz | 3 times is not a valid sample size, anyway |
| 05:12.40 | theoddone33 | it's 3 times more than I've ever seen it not work |
| 05:13.04 | theoddone33 | unless it was a possible targeting circle miss, which I'm fairly certain it wasn't these last 3 times |
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| 05:14.00 | vithos | i know this is off topic, but does anyone know a way to "temporarily" "permanently" hide the mouse cursor? i have two monitors and in various FPS games, when i move the mouse towards the other screen the cursor appears in the middle of the game |
| 05:14.32 | vithos | i.e. in counter-strike |
| 05:14.58 | Arrowmaster | fps games tend to lock the curser into the middle of the screen |
| 05:15.19 | vithos | right, except the lock just works by moving it to the middle of the screen every frame |
| 05:15.31 | vithos | which means if your mouse sensitivity is high enough you can move it off screen between frames |
| 05:15.41 | vithos | especially when your FPS is spiking |
| 05:15.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah ive done that before |
| 05:16.16 | vithos | and i play CS at like 960x720 and use very high sensitivity, so it happens pretty much every time i try to turn right |
| 05:16.24 | Arrowmaster | since when i move my cursor to the right or left of the screen and right click it opens my menu |
| 05:16.41 | Arrowmaster | ive done that in games at 1600x1200 res trying to turn and zoom |
| 05:17.03 | vithos | i'm thinking maybe i could replace my default cursor with a blank one |
| 05:17.20 | vithos | but that'd be annoying to do without having a keybind to change it back |
| 05:17.46 | aestil | why can't it be world of starcraft? |
| 05:17.48 | aestil | damnit |
| 05:17.54 | aestil | i don't want to play d3 |
| 05:17.56 | aestil | i didn't like d2 |
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| 05:29.20 | CIA-44 | 03lifetapt * r77441 10Paranoia_EPA/ParanoiaSpells.lua: |
| 05:29.21 | CIA-44 | Paranoia_EPA: |
| 05:29.21 | CIA-44 | -Completed pally spells up to level 40. |
| 05:29.39 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r77442 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (Bloodboil.lua Council.lua): |
| 05:29.39 | CIA-44 | RBM_BlackTemple: |
| 05:29.39 | CIA-44 | -zhCN update |
| 05:30.49 | Fisker- | wish me luck Funkeh` |
| 05:31.10 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 05:31.16 | Fisker- | indeed |
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| 05:31.32 | Funkeh` | gl |
| 05:32.17 | Fisker- | wonders what that achieved |
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| 05:38.18 | Ellipsis | raeps Fisker- |
| 05:38.41 | Fisker- | i liek |
| 05:38.51 | Fisker- | diablo 3 btw |
| 05:39.58 | Kappaccino | lol @ diablo 3 theorists |
| 05:40.05 | Ellipsis | so I don't know what I did wrong, but opera keeps freezing on me |
| 05:40.18 | Arrowmaster | you installed opera |
| 05:40.25 | Kappaccino | screw off |
| 05:40.28 | Kappaccino | opera is fine |
| 05:40.41 | Ellipsis | nocts claims it's because I have too many tabs open |
| 05:40.42 | Kappaccino | that's my pr0n browser |
| 05:40.49 | Ellipsis | but it's only like 30-40, firefox handles that fine :/ |
| 05:40.59 | Arrowmaster | 30-40? |
| 05:41.01 | Arrowmaster | pff thats nothing |
| 05:41.09 | Arrowmaster | ive hit 100+ before |
| 05:41.19 | Fisker- | moar like diablo 3 terrorists |
| 05:41.23 | Kappaccino | my grandma has more open with both of you combined |
| 05:41.26 | Kappaccino | PFFFT ! |
| 05:41.31 | Fisker- | also |
| 05:41.35 | Fisker- | it's not theory |
| 05:41.36 | Fisker- | but fact |
| 05:41.49 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: exactly! |
| 05:41.51 | Kappaccino | prepare to be dissapointed |
| 05:41.57 | Ellipsis | I'm a tab whore, and it doesn't usually cause problems |
| 05:42.11 | Ellipsis | but opera just hates me and I'm guessing it's because of something I have open in the background, I just don't know which page :( |
| 05:42.30 | Arrowmaster | probably something with either flash or javascript |
| 05:42.44 | Fisker- | Kappaccino why should i be disappointed by the announcement of Diablo 3? |
| 05:42.52 | Arrowmaster | maybe something spamming ajax requests |
| 05:43.00 | Kappaccino | be it's not D3 |
| 05:43.06 | Ellipsis | well, unless it's gmail or gmaps, I don't think it's an ajax thing |
| 05:43.12 | Fisker- | it is D3 |
| 05:43.12 | Arrowmaster | one of the reasons i hate ajax is because of all the preformance issues it causes |
| 05:43.30 | Ellipsis | maybe it's wowwiki's scripts being lame again |
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| 05:57.01 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r77443 10RBM/Locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 05:57.01 | CIA-44 | RBM: |
| 05:57.01 | CIA-44 | -zhCN update |
| 05:57.29 | Ellipsis | hay Fisker- can you do me a favor? |
| 05:59.12 | Ellipsis | fine :( |
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| 06:04.04 | theoddone33 | add iceblock to the list of things mass dispel doesn't dispel as accurately as before |
| 06:04.07 | theoddone33 | grrrr |
| 06:04.11 | theoddone33 | I don't trust it at this point |
| 06:04.44 | Fisker- | ok Ellipsis |
| 06:05.02 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: link me a screenshot of your healadin UI pretty please? <3 |
| 06:05.15 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 06:05.22 | Fisker- | sec then |
| 06:05.25 | Ellipsis | yays |
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| 06:09.16 | Fisker- | http://i26.tinypic.com/5mwt3r.jpg |
| 06:10.12 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 06:13.23 | Jagobah | what buff mod is that |
| 06:14.13 | Fisker- | buffalo |
| 06:14.15 | Fisker- | with a 2 |
| 06:15.10 | Jagobah | oh no I mean |
| 06:15.16 | Jagobah | the mod that checks buffs on raid members |
| 06:15.56 | Fisker- | oh |
| 06:15.58 | Fisker- | zomgbuffs |
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| 06:23.22 | Fisker- | slaps Elkano around a bit with a large trout |
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| 06:34.09 | elite3vil | Fisker-: Have you tried to get all your pallys to convert to zomgbuffs? |
| 06:34.30 | elite3vil | hrm, actually, looks like you're the only one in that raid. >.> |
| 06:35.17 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 06:35.30 | Fisker- | when we do have pallys though the others don't use it either :( |
| 06:35.36 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
| 06:35.39 | Fisker- | still using pallypower |
| 06:35.41 | elite3vil | Yeah. |
| 06:35.49 | elite3vil | All the others in my guild refuse |
| 06:36.19 | elite3vil | zomg>>pp though |
| 06:36.21 | elite3vil | imo at least. |
| 06:36.32 | Fisker- | and our leaders have the spine of a rubber figure |
| 06:36.38 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 06:36.47 | elite3vil | One of the other pallies is one of our leaders. =\ |
| 06:37.16 | elite3vil | He's anti-addons too... always bitching whenever I link something from Incubator or Grim |
| 06:37.26 | Fisker- | :P |
| 06:37.33 | silentium | I'm the only ZOMG pally in our guild as well, but as long as I get an A to set their Pally Power and they remember to buff I don't really care |
| 06:37.47 | elite3vil | Yeah, that's about where I'm at too silentium |
| 06:37.48 | Fisker- | bai tiems |
| 06:38.15 | elite3vil | and the MT uses ora2, so I get autopromoted when I join the raid |
| 06:38.45 | elite3vil | We still have one pally that I always have to nag to buff though. |
| 06:38.57 | elite3vil | /readycheck |
| 06:39.01 | elite3vil | 1/2 the raid doesn't have kings |
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| 06:39.23 | elite3vil | on a positive note, I got two sets of t6 bracers tonight (prot/ret)! =D |
| 06:39.27 | silentium | in our raid ppl always click ready even if they still miss 5 buffs -_- |
| 06:40.03 | elite3vil | Yeah, I've gotten to the point where I won't click ready, and I call out the buffs that're missing before I do. |
| 06:40.09 | silentium | and then they complain about missing buffs just a moment after the pull |
| 06:40.20 | silentium | yeah same |
| 06:40.54 | elite3vil | and I don't have to spam my ZOMG JUDGE WISDOM macro at the beginning of Brut anymore.. they finally remember. |
| 06:41.31 | elite3vil | I'm holy for everything except Brut, Felmyst, and Hyjal |
| 06:41.43 | elite3vil | ret for brut, prot for Felmyst and Hyjal |
| 06:42.00 | elite3vil | yay for respecing. |
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| 06:50.42 | laeg | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4648974945&sid=1 |
| 06:51.23 | erikh | heh... stories like elite3vil's remind me why I like our guild so much, even though we're not seriously in BT yet |
| 06:52.39 | erikh | get told to do something enough times, and we start recruiting for your spot until you decide you're a part of the team |
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| 07:41.46 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r77444 10AtlasLoot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:41.46 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 07:41.46 | CIA-44 | - Core Direbrew added |
| 07:46.12 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r77445 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/GeneralPvP.en.lua: |
| 07:46.12 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 07:46.12 | CIA-44 | - wrong ID fixed |
| 07:47.21 | theoddone33 | 2 more |
| 07:47.29 | theoddone33 | mass dispel the paladin twice, neither removed the bubble |
| 07:47.37 | theoddone33 | at this point I'm believing it's definitely broken |
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| 08:02.41 | Aiiane_ | theoddone33 - were you getting Immunes or Resists? |
| 08:02.58 | theoddone33 | no resist message in combat log |
| 08:03.04 | theoddone33 | immune message, but it's always said that |
| 08:03.17 | theoddone33 | I'm up to 5 or 6 times tonight this has happened |
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| 08:06.28 | theoddone33 | I don't know for sure that I'm successfully dispelled one all night |
| 08:06.35 | theoddone33 | but I know for sure that 5 didn't dispell |
| 08:07.10 | theoddone33 | ice blocks I had the same problem with once but I think I have taken those off |
| 08:07.10 | CIA-44 | 03nikkodemus * r77446 10BuffEnough/Locales/Locale-frFR.lua: |
| 08:07.10 | CIA-44 | BuffEnough: |
| 08:07.10 | CIA-44 | - fixed frFR localization |
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| 08:09.19 | ktwo | hi anyone knows a way how to raise wow performance when using addons? (without it loads extremely fast and fps is awesome) |
| 08:10.22 | [Ammo] | ktwo: don't use shit addons :) |
| 08:10.26 | elite3vil | ^ |
| 08:11.01 | elite3vil | Don't use addons whose code looks like it was written by Word trying to do HTML. =P |
| 08:11.11 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r77447 10RBM/Locales/zhCN.lua: |
| 08:11.11 | CIA-44 | RBM: |
| 08:11.12 | CIA-44 | -typo fix |
| 08:12.10 | ktwo | i only use wowace addons |
| 08:12.31 | ktwo | whatever i do, even when not using embedded libs, the performance decreases |
| 08:14.52 | Arrowmaster | theres lots of shit wowace addons too |
| 08:15.19 | Arrowmaster | whoever told you all wowace addons are good lied to you |
| 08:16.52 | ktwo | hmm.. so how can i determine if they are good? :P |
| 08:18.04 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r77448 10RBM_BlackTemple/Souls.lua: |
| 08:18.04 | CIA-44 | RBM_BlackTemple: |
| 08:18.04 | CIA-44 | -Soul typo fix, I do need some sleep then |
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| 08:20.32 | BasementCat | hates CeilingCat |
| 08:21.12 | ktwo | is there any "list" of addons which are not going to impact performance that much or "leightweight" ones so to speak |
| 08:21.44 | Arrowmaster | theres too many addons to create some kinda list like that |
| 08:22.02 | CIA-44 | 03ellipsis * r77449 10PitBull/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua: PitBull_TotemTimers: Fix config error with disabling the Hide Inactive option (apologies to Vangual for the ninja-fix). |
| 08:22.26 | BasementCat | ktwo: i hear KTM is good |
| 08:23.01 | ktwo | ? instead of omen.. well then i'd rather take the lower performance |
| 08:23.08 | BasementCat | i'm joking |
| 08:23.18 | BasementCat | ktm is an amazing resource hog |
| 08:23.26 | ktwo | ah ok =) |
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| 08:23.53 | ktwo | but well.. i dont get why the performance goes down anyway with 4gb ram |
| 08:24.08 | BasementCat | ... |
| 08:24.18 | charon | i hear having >120GB disk helps there |
| 08:24.32 | ktwo | maybe wow client tries to cache the files on the hdd, is there any way to force him to cache on ram? |
| 08:24.43 | Arrowmaster | a ramdisk |
| 08:24.49 | Arrowmaster | but i doubt you have enough ram to do that |
| 08:24.57 | Arrowmaster | actually i know you dont |
| 08:24.59 | charon | performance is a complex function of cpu clock, gpu clock, bus speeds, cache sizes, ram, and whatnot. |
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| 08:25.17 | charon | and btw, ramdisks are more likely to get in the way of the kernel's idea of what to cache than to help |
| 08:25.23 | Ellipsis | also, butterfly wings |
| 08:25.41 | charon | duh. how could i forget the butterfly wings! you're right. |
| 08:25.47 | Avrys | weee. Only 7 tried on RoS tonight >_> |
| 08:25.50 | ktwo | yes, but well i think the performance is there, cpu stays at like 30% per core, plenty of ram still free |
| 08:25.54 | Avrys | Eff that fight. |
| 08:25.57 | ktwo | so it must have something to do with wow client -.- |
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| 08:27.17 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r77450 10RBM_BlackTemple/ (Gorefiend.lua Mother.lua): |
| 08:27.17 | CIA-44 | RBM_BlackTemple: |
| 08:27.17 | CIA-44 | -Gorefiend and Mother implementation |
| 08:28.10 | ktwo | do you think loading wow from 8gb usb stick will be faster? :) or would the stick be damaged after a while because of write/cycles? |
| 08:28.23 | Arrowmaster | no it wont |
| 08:28.26 | charon | you're talking about _loading_ times? |
| 08:28.34 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 08:28.41 | ktwo | loading times and ingame performance |
| 08:28.52 | Ellipsis | my failmeter must be broken, it's registering epic levels of fail |
| 08:29.03 | ktwo | but not performance regarding video speed but lagging when doing something |
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| 08:29.16 | Arrowmaster | doing what? |
| 08:29.28 | ktwo | like opening the map, moving items from inventory |
| 08:29.35 | ktwo | always some ms of lag |
| 08:29.38 | Ellipsis | get a faster hard drive |
| 08:30.10 | ktwo | 7200rpm 320gb sata 2 drive :/ should i get scsi only for wow? xD |
| 08:30.18 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 08:30.24 | Arrowmaster | scsi is perty dead |
| 08:30.26 | Ellipsis | alternatively: suck less |
| 08:30.37 | charon | get an OS that can actually cache several GBs of data without breaking a sweat ;p |
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| 08:31.00 | ktwo | so what os would that be if not windows or mac? |
| 08:31.03 | charon | (the guys on #git timed stat() on win and found it could do no more than about 1000/s. go figure.) |
| 08:31.20 | ktwo | on ubuntu i cant even get glitchless video due to bad ATi support |
| 08:31.32 | Arrowmaster | or stop caring about the few ms of delay from doing minor things that have delays for everybody |
| 08:31.36 | CIA-44 | 03digmouse * r77451 10RBM_BlackTemple/Gorefiend.lua: |
| 08:31.36 | CIA-44 | RBM_BlackTemple: |
| 08:31.36 | CIA-44 | -tweak it up, someone dont burn me plz |
| 08:32.04 | digmouse | i just blow things up over and over this afternoon |
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| 08:33.25 | ktwo | any alternative to ArkInventory or OneBag/Bank? |
| 08:33.32 | digmouse | Combuctor |
| 08:33.54 | ktwo | ty |
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| 08:35.10 | Aiiane_ | ktwo: Also Baggins |
| 08:35.42 | ktwo | baggins seems outdated in wow ace updater^ |
| 08:36.17 | Aiiane_ | not really |
| 08:36.27 | Aiiane_ | last updated in april, and there havent been any major changes to the bags api |
| 08:36.46 | Aiiane_ | just because wowace has some addons which are modified every week doesnt mean they all have to be |
| 08:36.52 | ktwo | ah ok |
| 08:39.35 | Ellipsis | Aiiane_: that's not true |
| 08:39.47 | Ellipsis | there have been significant changes that would eliminate the need for almost an entire file of baggins' code |
| 08:40.08 | ktwo | anyway combuctor is awesome |
| 08:40.16 | ktwo | this seems to be the best ive seen so far |
| 08:43.00 | Nargiddley | Ellipsis, not really |
| 08:43.11 | digmouse | ya, auto category, and works perfect with Bagnon_Tooltip and Bagnon_Forever |
| 08:43.31 | Ellipsis | ItemOps was never properly updated |
| 08:43.35 | digmouse | in fact Combuctor is written by Tuller, who wrote Bagnon |
| 08:43.37 | Ellipsis | just a hack to get it working without PT |
| 08:44.08 | Nargiddley | ah ItemOps, that ones not mine so forgot about it |
| 08:44.12 | Ellipsis | exactly |
| 08:44.22 | Ellipsis | the bag family stuff could simplify that code a *lot* |
| 08:44.32 | Nargiddley | I really should hack that to not rely on pt |
| 08:44.43 | Ellipsis | mikk already did |
| 08:44.51 | Ellipsis | but it needs a complete rewrite imo |
| 08:44.56 | Ellipsis | or at least some real work |
| 08:45.11 | Ellipsis | reading ItemOps always makes me a sad panda |
| 08:45.27 | Nargiddley | I just avoid reading it :/ |
| 08:45.39 | Arrowmaster | am i the only one that just uses simple old Bagnon? |
| 08:45.42 | digmouse | cant read it *hides* |
| 08:46.20 | Nargiddley | I want to rewrite Baggins, but hard to find the time atm |
| 08:46.21 | Aiiane_ | Ellipsis: when I said "any major changes" I was mostly just referring to things that would break the addon |
| 08:46.29 | Aiiane_ | i.e. the addon still works just fine |
| 08:46.35 | Ellipsis | well it works, just not optimally |
| 08:46.52 | Ellipsis | if it still relied on PT I would class that as "broken" even if the functionality was "working" from a user perspective :P |
| 08:46.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah people tried to use that argument with me on EQCompare, didnt last long |
| 08:48.21 | Roblibob | working as intended ;) |
| 08:48.59 | BasementCat | owns Roblibob soul |
| 08:49.14 | Arrowmaster | for broken values of intended |
| 08:49.46 | Ellipsis | I like that, I'm going to sig that somewhere |
| 08:49.49 | Nargiddley | ah well ItemOps is safe to just delete afaik |
| 08:50.07 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: lol |
| 08:51.40 | Ellipsis | it's not safe to delete *entirely*, but a good majority of that code is completely useless now |
| 08:52.11 | Ellipsis | the restack function is about all that needs to stay |
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| 08:53.26 | Nargiddley | well by safe to delete I mean doesn't break anything but its own functionality |
| 08:53.37 | BasementCat | sends Ellipsis to the basement |
| 08:53.50 | Ellipsis | well, it breaks the restack button at the very least :P but I see your point |
| 08:54.11 | Nargiddley | there is no restack button without it |
| 08:56.05 | ktwo | sry to ask again without doing self-searching: since ag_unitframes seems to be outdatet (and not displaying proper class buffs) what alternative is there which is not bloated like pitbull^^ |
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| 09:01.03 | charon | ~oUF |
| 09:01.08 | charon | oh well, was worth a try |
| 09:03.48 | Arrowmaster | http://ixo.no/git/oUF.git/snapshot/oUF-master.zip |
| 09:04.22 | BasementCat | burns Arrowmaster in the fires of the basement furnace |
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| 09:33.13 | breser | ~seen grayhoof |
| 09:33.15 | purl | breser: i haven't seen 'grayhoof' |
| 09:34.24 | BasementCat | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1214464580950.jpg |
| 09:36.11 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 09:39.16 | CIA-44 | Poppins: |
| 09:39.16 | CIA-44 | - Iterate spelled correctly, Durations module works more like TotemTimers now |
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| 09:44.06 | Pkekyo| | 'nazi-paedofile brit' wee bit overkill on the negatively charged words there? :p |
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| 10:08.41 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: |
| 10:08.41 | CIA-44 | - Brewfest update |
| 10:09.25 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r77454 10AtlasLoot/ (Documentation/Release Notes.txt Instances/Atlas112Compat.lua): |
| 10:09.25 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 10:09.25 | CIA-44 | - added Ahune to Atlas |
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| 10:22.06 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77455 10RBM/ (3 files in 3 dirs): RBM: koKR Update |
| 10:24.30 | starlon | kicks wws |
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| 10:37.24 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77457 10RBM_HuntersMark/HuntersMark.lua: RBM_HuntersMark: add koKR locale |
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| 10:39.43 | CIA-44 | 03pettigrow * r77458 10LittleWigs/MagistersTerrace/Kael'thasSunstrider.lua: LittleWigs: MgT/Kael: bug fix |
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| 10:41.43 | CIA-44 | JewelTips: |
| 10:41.43 | CIA-44 | -add a new enchant -- Deathfrost |
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| 10:47.14 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77460 10RBM_TotemWatch/TotemWatch.lua: RBM_TotemWatch: add koKR locale :) |
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| 10:50.31 | Thumann | hi :) a quick question, does anyone know if it's possible to macro a "target highest on omen" ? |
| 10:51.06 | CIA-44 | 03Ghostar * r77461 10JewelTips/JewelTips.lua: |
| 10:51.06 | CIA-44 | JewelTips: |
| 10:51.06 | CIA-44 | -typo hotfix |
| 10:52.16 | Punkie | Thumann: pretty sure its not possible |
| 10:53.18 | Thumann | Punkie: hmm.. due to lua restrictions? you can obviously "see" who's highest there.. so maybe a slashcommand of sorts? |
| 10:53.39 | Punkie | you arent allowed, it would make the game too easy |
| 10:54.00 | Thumann | decursive 2 supports this, no? |
| 10:54.04 | Thumann | been awhile since i used it |
| 10:54.35 | Punkie | does what |
| 10:54.47 | Punkie | auto target and decurse someone? |
| 10:54.56 | Punkie | only if you click their frame I think? |
| 10:54.58 | Thumann | you could make a small "box" on the screen that if you clicked it, it would target who ever is on top of omen |
| 10:55.04 | Thumann | omen would then change the "box" target |
| 10:55.10 | Thumann | punkie, ye |
| 10:55.47 | Punkie | the position of the box does not change in combat on decursive though |
| 10:56.18 | Thumann | well, not needed either, as long as you could position the box where ever.. and on click, it would target who ever was on top of omen |
| 10:56.27 | Punkie | not possible |
| 10:56.27 | Thumann | or a 'mouse over' event |
| 10:57.16 | Thumann | ah, so a "second" focus frame isn't possible to make? |
| 10:57.25 | Thumann | i guess that's the limit |
| 10:57.49 | Punkie | what, you didn't even ask that |
| 10:58.39 | Punkie | you can make a lot of frames, you just can't dynamically create 'targettable' ones in combat lockdown |
| 10:58.40 | Thumann | sorry if i'm bad at explaining myself :D i just mean, why isn't it possible to have omen (or any other mod) update/change the target of a frame? |
| 10:58.53 | Punkie | no, there's combat lockdown |
| 10:59.09 | Thumann | ahh, i see |
| 10:59.09 | Punkie | like i said it would make the game too easy ;) |
| 10:59.20 | Thumann | assist is enough for some healers |
| 10:59.23 | Punkie | like the mod that used to be able to target whoever has aggro, on the lowest hp, in range and cast the right heal |
| 10:59.39 | Punkie | in 1 button |
| 10:59.58 | Thumann | fast tank switching like on brutallus is a nightmare for some of our healers hehe |
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| 11:00.51 | Thumann | Punkie: but i see the problem now, it would work out of combat, but then me useless |
| 11:00.59 | Thumann | me/be |
| 11:01.20 | Punkie | indeed |
| 11:02.24 | Thumann | thanks for clearing it up :) |
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| 11:05.52 | ktwo | does anyone know where i can get pitbull-styles? |
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| 11:10.37 | Movix | /who freenode/staff/* |
| 11:10.39 | Movix | ops |
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| 11:29.04 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77462 10RBM_Config/Locales/koKR.lua: |
| 11:29.04 | CIA-44 | RBM_Config: |
| 11:29.04 | CIA-44 | -koKR update |
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| 11:31.25 | Lukian | are there still addons which you can make "profiles" for which addons to be loaded? |
| 11:31.40 | Lukian | ie. a bankchar set, a normal set and a raiding set? |
| 11:32.03 | JoshBorke | MCP |
| 11:32.09 | Lukian | still works? |
| 11:32.20 | JoshBorke | it did for me in 2.4.2 |
| 11:32.26 | JoshBorke | did you even try? |
| 11:32.55 | Lukian | nope |
| 11:32.59 | Lukian | just asking |
| 11:33.04 | Lukian | haven't used mcpfu for months |
| 11:33.07 | JoshBorke | doesn't ever hurt to try :-D |
| 11:33.11 | JoshBorke | i didn't say mcpfu :-P |
| 11:33.15 | Lukian | in a raid atm, so I cna't try |
| 11:33.19 | Lukian | that's all i've used of it |
| 11:33.23 | Lukian | and I was impressed |
| 11:33.29 | JoshBorke | why'd you stop using it? |
| 11:33.54 | Lukian | addons worked nicely around ace2 launch |
| 11:33.59 | Lukian | now they chew crazy cpu time :( |
| 11:34.05 | Lukian | especially in 25mans |
| 11:34.05 | JoshBorke | do you know how old ace2 is now? |
| 11:34.11 | Lukian | ancient :D |
| 11:34.29 | JoshBorke | many addons should have been updated, and if they haven't i'm sure there's another addon that does the same thing but better |
| 11:34.35 | JoshBorke | (except for damage meters, they all blow) |
| 11:34.46 | Lukian | heh |
| 11:34.52 | Lukian | I have a lot of ace2 addons still |
| 11:35.13 | JoshBorke | it's fine to have Ace2 addons, you just need to check for updates once a patch :-D |
| 11:35.21 | Lukian | i do daily.. |
| 11:35.28 | JoshBorke | then you have bad addons |
| 11:35.32 | Lukian | indeed |
| 11:35.47 | Lukian | thus why I want something like MCP to help me out |
| 11:35.52 | Lukian | 8fps raiding isn't fun XD |
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| 11:37.43 | Kuosi | do addons rly drop your fps that much? |
| 11:37.59 | JoshBorke | i've seen them affect it by up to 10 fps |
| 11:39.10 | Kuosi | addons that gather lot of data with small update frequency can hit your comp hard |
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| 11:42.42 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77463 10RBM/Locales/Locales.lua: |
| 11:42.42 | CIA-44 | RBM: |
| 11:42.42 | CIA-44 | -koKR Update |
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| 11:58.09 | Lukian | Last Update:April 14, 2007 :/ |
| 11:58.16 | Lukian | that was for rMCP which has profiles |
| 11:59.08 | charon | i use ACP which works fine and can save a couple addon "sets" |
| 11:59.15 | Lukian | sounds good! |
| 11:59.47 | Lukian | Based on rMCP by Rophy. |
| 11:59.48 | Lukian | win |
| 12:00.11 | Kalroth | You go, girl! |
| 12:01.18 | CIA-44 | 03diablohu * r77464 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 12:01.18 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:01.18 | CIA-44 | - zhCN update |
| 12:04.27 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r77465 10AtlasLoot/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 12:04.27 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:04.28 | CIA-44 | - Added Don Carlos |
| 12:05.14 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r77466 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 12:05.14 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 12:05.14 | CIA-44 | - Added Don Carlos |
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| 12:08.42 | charon | Lukian: though i'd be quite interested to hear what addons drain so much performance... you'd think they would have to run a stupid onupdate or do lots of work on CLEU, and the latter kind is only useful in combat |
| 12:09.04 | Lukian | yeah it's mostly in combat |
| 12:09.40 | Matrix110| | CLEU by dozens of Addons isnt really nice anyway but required atm :P |
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| 13:18.33 | RaydenUni | morning |
| 13:19.13 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin lass |
| 13:19.28 | RaydenUni | o.O |
| 13:19.35 | RaydenUni | checks his bosom |
| 13:20.21 | RaydenUni | nothin' |
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| 13:21.17 | Pkekyo| | lolwut? bosom? |
| 13:21.43 | RaydenUni | there we go |
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| 13:26.27 | Fisker- | mr. Chompers |
| 13:26.32 | Fisker- | i am you |
| 13:27.02 | BasementCat | throws Fisker's soul into the furnace |
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| 13:30.18 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 13:30.22 | Chompers | i don't believe you |
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| 13:33.14 | Fisker- | :O |
| 13:34.30 | Fisker- | you should |
| 13:34.34 | Fisker- | cause i'm telling a relative truth |
| 13:34.38 | Chompers | Fisker-, how's your pve going |
| 13:34.44 | Fisker- | better than your mom |
| 13:34.45 | Chompers | any further in bt? |
| 13:34.49 | Fisker- | also i'm still studying n00b |
| 13:34.49 | Chompers | oooh, nice |
| 13:34.54 | Fisker- | so i don't really know |
| 13:34.55 | Chompers | you suck then |
| 13:35.31 | RaydenUni | studying noob? |
| 13:36.16 | Fisker- | ok |
| 13:36.20 | Fisker- | i'm still studying, n00b. |
| 13:36.28 | Fisker- | also |
| 13:36.29 | Fisker- | fuck you |
| 13:36.30 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 13:36.39 | Kalroth | Schoolboy |
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| 13:36.46 | Fisker- | your mother |
| 13:36.51 | RaydenUni | sorry |
| 13:36.55 | RaydenUni | that was a true misread |
| 13:37.12 | Kalroth | Fisker is taking a Ph.D. in being a noob |
| 13:37.15 | RaydenUni | cause you can't grammar, noob |
| 13:37.17 | Chompers | hey school boy, i got some candy in my van |
| 13:37.25 | Chompers | oh Fisker-, you'll love it |
| 13:38.00 | RaydenUni | so 2 pc druid t4 is awesome |
| 13:38.02 | RaydenUni | feral |
| 13:38.26 | RaydenUni | i love when i proc off my first attack: +20 energy, clearcasting, and i time my opener right |
| 13:38.36 | RaydenUni | 3 attacks before i'm down to 60 energy |
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| 13:50.37 | Chompers | http://www.hisdigital.com/html/product_ov.php?id=340 |
| 13:50.41 | Chompers | Fisker-, do you want one of those |
| 13:50.57 | Chompers | your 1's and 0's are not clear enough |
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| 13:55.17 | Kalroth | Fiskers SNR is way too high for that card to do any good |
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| 14:19.41 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: |
| 14:19.52 | cncfanatics | for some reason the bar2 from bt3 has no stance configuration for the paging |
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| 14:21.47 | Kulaar | bt3 is no longer supported afaik :o |
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| 14:27.39 | AckisWork | good morning ladies |
| 14:28.26 | Fisker- | your mother Ackis |
| 14:28.27 | Zyndrome | garfield, gb2bed |
| 14:28.40 | AckisWork | ~lart Fisker- |
| 14:28.40 | purl | calls Fisker- on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 14:29.36 | CIA-44 | 03hegarol * r77467 10AtlasLoot_BCInstances/burningcrusade.en.lua: |
| 14:29.36 | CIA-44 | AtlasLoot_BCInstances: |
| 14:29.36 | CIA-44 | - removed Belt of Depravity from Murmur's loot |
| 14:33.13 | Fisker- | hey AckisWork |
| 14:33.24 | AckisWork | sup lover? |
| 14:37.20 | BasementCat | just finished his unemployment application |
| 14:37.22 | Pkekyo| | I love it when something have an absolute tantrum on an official forum over seemingly nothing at all :) |
| 14:37.25 | BasementCat | waits for his free money in teh mail |
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| 15:24.31 | Funkeh` | BasementCat, go get a job |
| 15:25.24 | AckisWork | 1 hour delayed reaction ftw |
| 15:25.35 | Chompers | Funkeh and his charm is too much for you all, obviously |
| 15:26.14 | Fisker- | Funkeh` |
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| 15:26.21 | Fisker- | your powerlevel is under -1 |
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| 15:27.39 | Chompers | mine is over 9000 |
| 15:27.48 | Fisker- | mine is over yours |
| 15:27.51 | Fisker- | owned |
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| 15:28.02 | DARKGuy | Mine is over you two's |
| 15:28.10 | DARKGuy | pwned |
| 15:28.22 | Fisker- | nah |
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| 15:28.28 | Fisker- | cause Chompers' is inf |
| 15:28.30 | Chompers | mine is 8(rotate it 90degrees) |
| 15:28.34 | Chompers | aww yeah |
| 15:28.37 | Fisker- | fuck yeah |
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| 15:32.42 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77468 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (24 files in 7 dirs): |
| 15:32.42 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 15:32.42 | CIA-44 | - Initial check in, will depreciate LibLordFarlander-1.0 once Coconuts 2.0 and MiniPet 4.0 are released, changes to organization and added general UI functionality that is shared between Coconuts, MiniPet, and Baldrick |
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| 15:42.47 | CIA-44 | 03cwdg * r77469 10RBM_Hyjal/ (Anetheron.lua Archimonde.lua RageWinterchill.lua): |
| 15:42.47 | CIA-44 | RBM_Hyjal: |
| 15:42.47 | CIA-44 | - update zhCN |
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| 15:48.17 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77470 10Baldrick/ (10 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:48.18 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 15:48.18 | CIA-44 | - Switched to Ace3 |
| 15:48.18 | CIA-44 | - Updated to LibLordFarlander-2.0 |
| 15:48.18 | CIA-44 | - Moved localization files to locals directory |
| 15:48.19 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77471 10AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 15:48.21 | CIA-44 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 15:48.23 | CIA-44 | ~lart Funkeh` |
| 15:48.23 | purl | gives Funkeh` a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 15:48.27 | CIA-44 | - Added a bunch of new flags (cloth, leather, mail, plate, melee, casterdps, healing, tanking) |
| 15:48.29 | CIA-44 | - Added cloth flag to everything tailoring |
| 15:48.31 | CIA-44 | - Added vendor info for missing vendor recipe in tailoring |
| 15:48.33 | CIA-44 | - Added new flag localizations in enUS (need translations) |
| 15:48.58 | AckisWork | If I make my log messages long enough you don't see the dry-coded message :P |
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| 15:49.12 | Stanzilla | [17:48:38] <+CIA-20> Ace: - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 15:49.13 | Stanzilla | hax! |
| 15:49.19 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:50.10 | Elkano | ackis, when will your new gui be done? ^^ |
| 15:50.16 | AckisWork | tickets like http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/ackis-recipe-list/tickets/14-ackis-recipe-list-ui-problem/ make me cry :( |
| 15:50.42 | AckisWork | Elkano: ask Zhinjio, he's the one that's primarily working on it, I know very little about GUI stuff and was having a lot of trouble |
| 15:50.58 | AckisWork | he's been busy lately however and before that was on holidats |
| 15:51.18 | Elkano | ah, k ^^ |
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| 15:53.12 | Vulcanus | holidats, a programmer's vacation |
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| 15:54.22 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77472 10Baldrick/embeds.xml: |
| 15:54.22 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 15:54.22 | CIA-44 | - embeds.xml properly updated. It helps to save files when you want the changes to go into the svn... |
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| 15:54.57 | AckisWork | Elkano: I keep workingo n the back-end improving filters/etc however |
| 15:55.04 | AckisWork | and what he's done with the new GUI looks amazing |
| 15:55.29 | Elkano | any screenshots you're willing to provide? ;) |
| 15:55.39 | AckisWork | the code is actually in ARL right now |
| 15:55.59 | AckisWork | if you load up the options and turn on the test GUI option thing, and do a scan it'll pop up |
| 15:56.15 | AckisWork | You'll have to turn that off and reload your UI to make it work again however hehe |
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| 15:57.58 | AckisWork | ckknight: you made a comment last night I think about how Cart3 doesn't have any specific integration for other mods, it just works with them... how is that accomplished? I've tried with ARL but there always seems to be a mod where my scan button is hidden/etc |
| 15:58.08 | Funkeh` | AckisWork, no |
| 15:58.49 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: that's only a half hour delayed response, to what I don't know |
| 15:59.03 | ckknight | AckisWork: well, basically, I put the WorldMapFrame in the proper spot on the map, then 3rd parties just use WorldMapFrame (or WorldMapDetailFrame or such), without thinking about it |
| 15:59.03 | Funkeh` | AckisWork, yes, no |
| 15:59.22 | Funkeh` | orly |
| 15:59.31 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: you scare me |
| 16:00.03 | AckisWork | ckknight: ahh ok I think I get it... don't think the same logic would work w/ the scan button on the tradeskill frame however |
| 16:00.09 | ckknight | nope |
| 16:00.13 | ckknight | probably wouldn't |
| 16:00.21 | AckisWork | I had hopes |
| 16:00.37 | AckisWork | getting tired of all these special cases for other mods |
| 16:00.45 | Funkeh` | AckisWork, hi |
| 16:00.51 | AckisWork | well not tired, just it's cumbersom |
| 16:00.54 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: hi2u |
| 16:01.58 | Funkeh` | AckisWork, lol |
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| 16:02.15 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: roflz |
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| 16:07.05 | Funkeh` | AckisWork, i liek u |
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| 16:07.21 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: sexy tiem nao? |
| 16:07.31 | jango | can someone give me some general info chatter vs prat? |
| 16:08.03 | Stanzilla | author busy vs author not playing wow? |
| 16:08.50 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:08.58 | jango | u see i had no idea |
| 16:09.10 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77473 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/BigWigs_KalecgosHealth.toc: |
| 16:09.10 | CIA-44 | BigWigs_KalecgosHealth: |
| 16:09.10 | CIA-44 | - Version bump |
| 16:09.10 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 16:09.16 | jango | thx |
| 16:09.16 | Lukian | jango, Chatter should use less cpu time |
| 16:09.20 | AckisWork | chatter does what prat does using more "modern" approaches to doing things, as a result it's more lightweight and effecient |
| 16:09.25 | Funkeh` | how do you fuck up a version bump |
| 16:09.27 | CIA-44 | 03starinnia * r77474 10MobileVault/Core.lua: MobileVault: Fix subtle bug in the Unpopulate function |
| 16:09.28 | Funkeh` | you mongo |
| 16:09.48 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: this is me, I probably could fuck it up :P |
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| 16:10.54 | Venara | Someone here who's updating AtlasLoot ? |
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| 16:11.28 | Funkeh` | Venara, AckisWork updates it |
| 16:11.49 | Venara | Thanks, Funkeh` |
| 16:11.55 | AckisWork | woah what? |
| 16:12.31 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77475 10Querier/Querier.lua: |
| 16:12.31 | CIA-44 | Querier: |
| 16:12.31 | CIA-44 | - Update version number |
| 16:12.31 | CIA-44 | - Change regexp to be shorter/sexier |
| 16:12.31 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 16:12.39 | Venara | AckisWork: Just wanted to report that the AtlasLoot crafting module is lacking Transmute: Skyfire and Earthstorm Diamond in the Alchemy section |
| 16:13.03 | Lukian | Ackis does? |
| 16:13.39 | ckknight | I thought AtlasLoot was Daviesh's |
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| 16:13.42 | Lukian | If so, I'd like to point out that adding crafted links to the wishlist doesn't work :p |
| 16:14.06 | AckisWork | hates Funkeh` |
| 16:14.29 | Lukian | hehe |
| 16:14.30 | Zyndrome | from now on, every question gets redirected to Ackis |
| 16:14.31 | Lukian | owned :D |
| 16:14.33 | DARKGuy | Wishlist has never worked for me anyways :( |
| 16:14.42 | AckisWork | Your best bet for atlasloot is: www.atlasloot.net and to post there |
| 16:14.49 | Venara | Wishlist works fine :> |
| 16:14.54 | Venara | k |
| 16:15.01 | DARKGuy | for each quesion in #wowace do redirect.to AckisWork; next question :D |
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| 16:15.14 | Lukian | Venara, add a "spell" from profession epics |
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| 16:15.26 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: be good and click: http://ackis.myminicity.com/tra |
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| 16:15.47 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: I did ^_^ |
| 16:15.52 | AckisWork | yay |
| 16:16.08 | CIA-44 | 03next96 * r77476 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 16:16.08 | CIA-44 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:16.08 | CIA-44 | - Update locale koKR |
| 16:16.37 | AckisWork | damn next96 is fast |
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| 16:17.06 | AckisWork | 9:48 is when I added new locals, 10:16 is when he updated them |
| 16:17.49 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 16:18.12 | AckisWork | it's almost as if I'm paying him |
| 16:20.41 | Elkano | yeah, korean and chinese are fast on localizing... |
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| 16:22.29 | DARKGuy | Yeah |
| 16:22.33 | DARKGuy | they're fast at everything |
| 16:22.35 | DARKGuy | :( |
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| 16:23.08 | Zyndrome | ni hao |
| 16:24.36 | Venara | Lukian: Just tried to add crafting recipes to the wishlist. it does work for me, but the links on the wishlist itself seem to be somewhat broken |
| 16:24.45 | Kate96 | Heyya |
| 16:24.51 | Kate96 | What's my handle showing as if I may ask? =X |
| 16:24.58 | AckisWork | Kate96 |
| 16:25.03 | Lukian | Venara, yep :) |
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| 16:25.37 | Venara | Lukian: since i just created a forum account on atlasloot.net i'll just report that as well :> |
| 16:25.45 | Kate96 | Thanks. weird =/ |
| 16:26.03 | Lukian | Venara, the sunwell badge gear also gets added incorrectly? |
| 16:26.09 | Lukian | to an "unknown" category? |
| 16:27.49 | Venara | ahm |
| 16:27.50 | Venara | let me see |
| 16:28.23 | Venara | Sunwell badge gear gets added to "Level 70 Instance Token Rewards" for me |
| 16:29.15 | Venara | Lukian: did you mean any particular item? there are just 3 leather ones in mine that are categorized correctly |
| 16:29.25 | Lukian | Venara, yeah maybe, give me a sec |
| 16:29.29 | Venara | k |
| 16:31.02 | Lukian | Venara, hmm maybe they fixed that one |
| 16:31.15 | Venara | Lukian: okay :) |
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| 16:34.57 | Venara | Lukian: http://www.daviesh.net/atlasloot_enhanced/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1886 |
| 16:35.12 | Venara | just in case you wanna look at the answers |
| 16:35.27 | AckisWork | daviesh is aussie iirc so you may not get answers until tomorrow |
| 16:36.17 | Venara | that's quite okay, no need to rush things :) |
| 16:36.56 | Fisker- | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=24660&rhtml=true <-hax tehn |
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| 16:40.05 | AckisWork | Fisker-: make a post on the forums asking if you can have multiple fobs linked to multiple accounts |
| 16:40.16 | Fisker- | fobs? |
| 16:40.59 | Megalon | Fisker-: buy one as acc scammer, scam acc, link to it, pwnd! |
| 16:40.59 | Fisker- | you can't link multiple ones |
| 16:40.59 | Fisker- | newb |
| 16:40.59 | Fisker- | also |
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| 16:40.59 | Fisker- | They would be able to more easily verify the hacker if he were to do that |
| 16:41.14 | AckisWork | Fisker-: you can have one fob link to multiple accounts, why not have multiple fobs link to one account? |
| 16:41.37 | Megalon | but it's nice |
| 16:41.41 | Megalon | that you should pay extra |
| 16:41.44 | Megalon | for security |
| 16:42.12 | Fisker- | Well stupid tax for the n00bs who get hacked :P |
| 16:42.23 | Cheads | extra.. for extra security |
| 16:43.01 | Fisker- | perhaps that is the new "securitymatrix" file when authenticating :o |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77477 10Coconuts/ (10 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-44 | Coconuts: |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-44 | - Coconuts is the continuation of Mount |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-44 | - Zone Favorites are implemented and setable but need more testing |
| 16:44.55 | CIA-44 | - No way to set favorites yet |
| 16:44.57 | CIA-44 | - Modifier keys are now configurable |
| 16:44.59 | CIA-44 | - Ace3'd |
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| 16:48.04 | Lukian | Can ClosetGnome work without Fubar? |
| 16:48.54 | durcyn | yes, FuBarPlugin can attach to the minimap or, optionally, hide completely |
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| 16:52.22 | Lukian | ah goodo |
| 16:52.35 | Lukian | forgot about minimap attachments |
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| 16:55.02 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77478 10Baldrick/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 16:55.02 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 16:55.02 | CIA-44 | - Added missing AceBD-3.0 to embeds.xml |
| 16:56.31 | ckknight | AceBD, woo! |
| 16:56.37 | GoatseXpress | what's up? |
| 16:57.51 | ckknight | change your name. |
| 16:58.02 | GoatseXpress | :( |
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| 16:58.16 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77479 10Coconuts/ (. embeds.xml): |
| 16:58.16 | CIA-44 | Coconuts: |
| 16:58.16 | CIA-44 | - Added some missing Ace3 libs to embeds.xml |
| 16:58.27 | LordFarlander | LOL It's right in the embeds.xml |
| 16:58.54 | BasementCat | why is it so hard to find resto shaman :( |
| 16:59.01 | BasementCat | we recruited two last week |
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| 16:59.12 | BasementCat | one quit because he didn't get invited to ONE fight (brut) |
| 16:59.22 | BasementCat | the other decided not to show up to days and got gkicked |
| 16:59.23 | BasementCat | bads |
| 16:59.42 | BasementCat | i blame Fisker- |
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| 16:59.53 | BasementCat | o noes it's Pkekyo| |
| 17:00.29 | Fisker- | slaps BasementCat around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:00.39 | Fisker- | CeilingCat is watching you masturbate |
| 17:01.13 | BasementCat | ceilingcat is a myth |
| 17:01.20 | BasementCat | there is only BasementCat |
| 17:01.36 | BasementCat | demands to be worshipped |
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| 17:23.24 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.31 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77480 10Baldrick/Libs/: |
| 17:23.31 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 17:23.31 | CIA-44 | - Removed Libs dir from the repository, it was causing funky paths in the zips |
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| 17:27.31 | Hjalte | Wow is giving me a Fatal Exception error each time I try to log in. It's just strange, seeing as I haven't installed any new addons, and I have been able to log in with the addons I use now earlier. |
| 17:27.50 | durcyn | Hjalte: binary search |
| 17:28.03 | Hjalte | durcyn: Huh? |
| 17:28.14 | durcyn | disable half of your addons, repeat until you find the culprit |
| 17:28.19 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77481 10MiniPet/ (Libs/ MiniPet.lua MiniPet.xml): |
| 17:28.20 | CIA-44 | MiniPet: |
| 17:28.20 | CIA-44 | - Removed Libs dir from the repository, it was causing funky paths in the zips |
| 17:28.20 | CIA-44 | - Fix for LibStickyFrames support |
| 17:28.20 | CIA-44 | - Moved to profile for settings |
| 17:28.37 | Funkeh` | wanna quit doing that bitch |
| 17:28.39 | Hjalte | durcyn: But I have been able to log in with the exact same addon composition earlier today? - Should something suddenly change. |
| 17:28.59 | Obelixprime | tomasulo's algorithm |
| 17:29.34 | durcyn | Hjalte: cosmic rays hit your disk platter and shifted a bit somewhere? i don't know. |
| 17:29.57 | Hjalte | durcyn: Yeah, that's probably it. |
| 17:31.20 | durcyn | seriously though, does it happen with addons disabled or not |
| 17:31.36 | Hjalte | Hmm. I removed Cartographer 3, updated from Curseforge to v. 0.5 with no externals + removed obsolete saved variables with jwu and suddenly, I was able to log in. |
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| 17:31.58 | Hjalte | I have however logged in with Cartographer3 v. 05 earlier today. |
| 17:32.17 | Obelixprime | i need to do a fresh update of my mods |
| 17:32.33 | Obelixprime | to wowace5 or rock9 or whatever the newest libraries are |
| 17:33.25 | AckisWork | it's racongle |
| 17:33.44 | AckisWork | Rock, Ace and Dongle all combined into one for faster performance |
| 17:34.27 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77482 10Mount/ (Libs/ Mount.lua Mount.xml): |
| 17:34.27 | CIA-44 | Mount: |
| 17:34.27 | CIA-44 | - Removed Libs dir from the repository, it was causing funky paths in the zips |
| 17:34.27 | CIA-44 | - Fix for LibStickyFrames support |
| 17:34.33 | Funkeh` | AAAAAAAA |
| 17:34.47 | AckisWork | LordFarlander: How would I use your petandmount database? |
| 17:35.03 | AckisWork | and please keep on inlcuding funky in your commit notes :D |
| 17:35.31 | LordFarlander | LOL |
| 17:36.02 | durcyn | also, please read some documentation on svn:externals before mashing your commit button. |
| 17:36.14 | durcyn | not every fuckup needs to be recorded for posterity |
| 17:36.41 | AckisWork | durcyn: :( |
| 17:36.59 | LordFarlander | Sorry about that :( When I initially checked them in I accidentally left the Libs directory there empty. |
| 17:37.23 | LordFarlander | And it didn't become a problem until recently a jackass using a funky zip program was unable to unzip :p |
| 17:37.31 | LordFarlander | AckisWork: http://wowace.com/wiki/LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.0 |
| 17:38.26 | LordFarlander | AckisWork: It's basically just a LibPeroidicTable3.1 set with some extra functions that it was missing that I needed. Also organized into finer detail for the MiniPet and Mounts. |
| 17:38.58 | durcyn | so why not just use PT3.1 and add the functions that only your mod will use, into your mod |
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| 17:39.08 | durcyn | libraries are for shared code |
| 17:39.23 | durcyn | and there are already too godamn many |
| 17:39.39 | LordFarlander | it includes spells as well that are needed by MiniPet and Mounts (including mount spells). The Wiki has a hierarchy of the sets that it has. |
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| 17:39.55 | durcyn | frivolous |
| 17:40.21 | LordFarlander | durcyn: it does have shared code in it as well. |
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| 17:41.11 | AckisWork | shared code? |
| 17:41.49 | LordFarlander | It has been mentioned to add it to PT3.1, and that is likely to be done soon |
| 17:42.54 | LordFarlander | *shrug* GetSubsets and HasSet are the only things that are really unique about it anymore, that's why I am likely to remove it and add it to PT3.1 |
| 17:43.04 | durcyn | well, from both a dev and a user perspective, the ratio of random library quantity to quality of code is usually inverse, and often exponential |
| 17:44.10 | durcyn | i should know, having written some garbage code =P |
| 17:44.16 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77483 10TIRaid/TIRaid.lua: |
| 17:44.17 | CIA-44 | TIRaid: |
| 17:44.17 | CIA-44 | - Add some Funky time stuff |
| 17:44.17 | CIA-44 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luca -p) |
| 17:44.21 | AckisWork | s/some/all/ |
| 17:45.02 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 17:45.03 | Obelixprime | i get taht |
| 17:45.05 | Obelixprime | cause i know vim |
| 17:45.17 | Obelixprime | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.58 | durcyn | except it's sed syntax. s/face/palm/g |
| 17:48.02 | LordFarlander | AckisWork: Anyway, you should hold off on using it. I'm going to be very soon putting it into LibPeriodiTable's tree, once I decide where I'm putting those two functions (somewhere in LibLordFarlander-2.0 I 'm sure, probably in a sub of it). The tree will still be valid though. |
| 17:48.43 | LordFarlander | And yes there is one more addon to fix by removing the Libs dir :p |
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| 17:49.01 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77484 10Tabard/ (. Libs/): |
| 17:49.01 | CIA-44 | Tabard: |
| 17:49.01 | CIA-44 | - Removed Libs dir from the repository, it was causing funky paths in the zips |
| 17:49.12 | AckisWork | myself and Zhinjio are planning on a mob to track which pets/mounts/tabards/etc you have collected |
| 17:50.22 | Obelixprime | that's pretty neat |
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| 17:50.49 | LordFarlander | Ah, then the PetAndMountDatabase part of LibPeriodicTable-3.1 will probably be of some use to you. I keep it very up to date and it has subgroups for speeds and other stuff. |
| 17:51.07 | AckisWork | I've avoided PT for some reason |
| 17:51.31 | AckisWork | probably because I don't know much about it and that I'm bad |
| 17:51.40 | Ironhand | is there a way in ZOMGBuffs to bring up the buff list (as happens when hovering over the icon), without actually having to have the icon on my screen all the time? |
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| 17:51.58 | LordFarlander | :) Is it going to be like AckisRecipeList? I love that :) |
| 17:52.10 | AckisWork | probably but with a better GUI |
| 17:52.20 | AckisWork | I'm terrible at GUI writing, don't know a thing about it |
| 17:52.23 | Dashkal | It would taunt me so. So many tabbards I cannot get... |
| 17:52.33 | AckisWork | ~taunt Dashkal |
| 17:52.34 | purl | ACTION taunts Dashkal a second time |
| 17:52.37 | Dashkal | Still kicking myself for not doing the BC gate opening event |
| 17:52.38 | LordFarlander | AckisWork: Cool. You and me both buddy lol |
| 17:52.44 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:52.49 | AckisWork | Dashkal: I wasn't playing during that event |
| 17:53.01 | Dashkal | I was. I have no excuse |
| 17:53.18 | AckisWork | your excuse is that you're bad |
| 17:53.26 | AckisWork | *notice proper use of your and you're* |
| 17:53.34 | LordFarlander | I don't know if there is a list of tabards, Tabard does it at run time by looking at the slot that things will equip in lol last I looked in PT3 there wasn't a list |
| 17:54.00 | AckisWork | I can easily make a list myself, and atlasloot has one as well iirc |
| 17:54.07 | LordFarlander | Oh, and there is a way to do that with vanity pets. Most will say they go into bag with bitfield 4096. |
| 17:54.10 | nevcairiel | BC gate opening event? wasnt that like "talk to 2 npcs and get tabard?" ? |
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| 17:54.44 | Dashkal | nevcairiel: pretty much, and I never got around to it before it ended |
| 17:54.48 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: pretty mich I've been told |
| 17:54.52 | Dashkal | I think you had to fight a demon or two |
| 17:55.05 | nevcairiel | i think i simply did it while traveling to outlands |
| 17:55.06 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 17:55.07 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 17:55.52 | Dashkal | hrm, I thought it was closed soon as the portal opened |
| 17:56.06 | Dashkal | It wasn't available when the alliance was owning the portal opening night anyway :p |
| 17:56.37 | p3lim|away | id like to add a custom function for chat like %t is target name |
| 17:56.42 | p3lim|away | how would I do that? |
| 17:56.50 | nevcairiel | good luck :P |
| 17:58.21 | p3lim|away | :/ |
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| 17:58.55 | nevcairiel | isnt that handles by the game itself, not the lua parts? |
| 17:59.36 | p3lim|away | ive heard of addons that adds custom ones |
| 17:59.50 | p3lim|away | just cant remember which ones |
| 18:00.19 | Dashkal | Is SendChatMessage() hookable? |
| 18:00.26 | p3lim|away | yuå |
| 18:00.29 | p3lim|away | yup* |
| 18:00.54 | Dashkal | If it can be hooked without tainting half your UI, that may be your answer. Just intercept the message and do replacements |
| 18:01.08 | Dashkal | maybe |
| 18:01.14 | Dashkal | cause you don't wanna blow up addons that use custom channels :p |
| 18:01.25 | p3lim|away | I think Cog's addon Macrotalk can do it.. hm |
| 18:01.58 | p3lim|away | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6853-MacroTalk.html |
| 18:02.24 | p3lim|away | example taken from the addon description: |
| 18:02.41 | p3lim|away | ./s I'm a level %l, %g, %r %c = I'm a level 68, male, gnome warrior |
| 18:02.43 | cog|work | for the record, it works by hooking SendChatMessage ;) |
| 18:03.29 | cog|work | MacroTalkSubstitutions.lua should be pretty easy to tinker with if you want to add your own |
| 18:03.36 | p3lim|away | Yeah just that your addon does so much more, I want just to make a custom one, to ease my recruitment spamming |
| 18:03.43 | p3lim|away | Yeah I just looked at it |
| 18:03.54 | cog|work | you can take out most of the addon and just use the Substitutions bit |
| 18:04.05 | cog|work | though there's really no reason to avoid the rest |
| 18:04.17 | cog|work | idle memory usage doesn't affect performance in any way |
| 18:04.23 | p3lim|away | I just have no need for everything else :p |
| 18:04.39 | cog|work | in which case it won't do any harm just sitting there :P |
| 18:04.44 | p3lim|away | all I want is %r or something to post my recruitment spam |
| 18:04.55 | p3lim|away | hm youre right... |
| 18:04.56 | cog|work | then yeah... a simple hook with a gsub will work |
| 18:05.35 | cog|work | or you could just make your own slash command and call SendChatMessage directly |
| 18:05.38 | p3lim|away | Gonna share it with my fellow officers too |
| 18:06.26 | cog|work | also... i report people who spam guild recruitment outside of the guild recruitment channel... recruitment messages piss me off |
| 18:07.07 | p3lim|away | Im using recruitment channel and sometimes General Chat in random outland zones |
| 18:07.49 | cog|work | the people who spam trade are the worst :P |
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| 18:10.01 | p3lim|away | never spammed trade, i know people hate it |
| 18:10.14 | p3lim|away | anyways, im looking at version 0.5 of MacroTalk |
| 18:10.26 | Obelixprime | oh man |
| 18:10.28 | Obelixprime | i'm so upset now |
| 18:10.33 | Obelixprime | since i cna't get that tabard |
| 18:10.46 | p3lim|away | nana i have it :p |
| 18:11.38 | p3lim|away | btw Cog i can see a global in MacroTalk.lua |
| 18:11.46 | p3lim|away | status at line 6 |
| 18:12.02 | cog|work | globals aren't evil |
| 18:12.08 | Zyndrome | tuburd? :< |
| 18:12.09 | p3lim|away | i like to think so |
| 18:12.10 | cog|work | is in the wrong channel to say that |
| 18:12.16 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:12.21 | p3lim|away | :p |
| 18:12.41 | p3lim|away | btw i ninjaed your MacroTalk_InBattleground() function |
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| 18:13.24 | cog|work | eew that one's evil |
| 18:13.28 | cog|work | sorry 'bout that :P |
| 18:13.34 | p3lim|away | told ya :p |
| 18:14.52 | p3lim|away | hm would this work? http://ace.pastey.net/90086 |
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| 18:16.04 | cog|work | should work fine, though there's really no need to hook if you're making your own addon anyway. You might as well just send the message directly with your own slash command |
| 18:16.29 | p3lim|away | hm |
| 18:16.47 | AckisWork | if it's just a message, why not use a macro? |
| 18:17.05 | p3lim|away | new officers, makes it a bit easier |
| 18:17.52 | AckisWork | copy and paste macro on guild forums? |
| 18:17.53 | AckisWork | :P |
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| 18:25.51 | jango | is there a working critline-like addon? |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-44 | 03elsia * r77485 10Recount/Tracker.lua: |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-44 | Recount: |
| 18:26.43 | CIA-44 | - Preparation for 2.4.3: Supporting new and renamed combat log event types. Current version should be compatible both with 2.4.2 and 2.4.3. |
| 18:27.13 | CIA-44 | 03profalbert 07FuBar_WhoRollFu * r77486 10FuBar_WhoRollFu/Core.lua: |
| 18:27.13 | CIA-44 | FuBar_WhoRollFu: |
| 18:27.13 | CIA-44 | - fix nil-error |
| 18:34.14 | Obelixprime | recount doesn't sync does it |
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| 18:37.59 | ktwo | isnt it possible to set hotkeys in bartender4? |
| 18:38.50 | Hjalte | Obelixprime: It syncs your own damage and healing to other recount users. |
| 18:40.22 | Obelixprime | that's new? |
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| 18:45.45 | Hjalte | Obelixprime: It's been like that for a while now. It's called Lazy Sync. |
| 18:47.02 | Obelixprime | ah, ok |
| 18:47.07 | Obelixprime | thanks |
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| 18:53.09 | genetik- | ktwo: /kb |
| 19:02.44 | Silviu- | /lkb |
| 19:02.45 | Silviu- | ;p |
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| 19:29.24 | NivFreak | meh |
| 19:29.41 | NivFreak | so a raider took 4 hearts of darkness for SR gear and then gquit |
| 19:29.46 | NivFreak | and won't return them |
| 19:29.52 | erikh | omg loot |
| 19:29.52 | NivFreak | I guess they get to be blacklisted |
| 19:30.08 | NivFreak | 1600G+ in mats that we need badly |
| 19:30.11 | NivFreak | for mother |
| 19:30.15 | erikh | man, you can get 4 hearts without downing anatheron |
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| 19:30.49 | Ozguli | my old guild got like... 2 from the first BT attempt >_> |
| 19:31.07 | erikh | yeah, 4 hearts is trivial to replace |
| 19:31.17 | Lukian | do mag |
| 19:31.19 | Lukian | sell the gems |
| 19:31.22 | Lukian | there's 1.6k |
| 19:31.28 | Lukian | kek |
| 19:32.28 | NivFreak | erikh: not when you need 100 |
| 19:35.15 | sica | NivFreak: farm the mother trash over and over again |
| 19:35.26 | NivFreak | that sounds like a good solution :P |
| 19:35.57 | NivFreak | We got 10 last night from hyjal, sorta meh |
| 19:36.02 | erikh | yeah, I was gonna say, if you didn't clear hyjal just deliberately wipe on the boss |
| 19:36.11 | erikh | you'll still come out on top |
| 19:36.11 | CIA-44 | 03durcyn * r77487 10Waitlist/ (. Waitlist.lua Waitlist.toc): Waitlist: initial commit - lightweight raid waiting list management addon, intended to replace EKWL. See wowace forums for details." |
| 19:36.21 | NivFreak | anyway, I'd rather buy hearts than wipe on trash and waste people's time |
| 19:36.27 | erikh | heh. |
| 19:36.27 | NivFreak | it's just shitty that some dickhead robbed us |
| 19:36.35 | NivFreak | of something important |
| 19:36.49 | sacarasc | sorry, NivFreak, but i just wanted out |
| 19:37.29 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 19:37.52 | NivFreak | the best part is, this was a guy who had appd, and was promoted after 2 weeks (fast for us) |
| 19:38.13 | NivFreak | and his personal justification for keeping the hearts was, he didn't get t6 gloves his 2nd trial raid (we don't give loot to apps) |
| 19:38.25 | NivFreak | and the more amusing part, it was our 2nd set of t6 gloves ever |
| 19:38.35 | sacarasc | :o |
| 19:38.38 | AckisWork | how'd he ninja them? |
| 19:38.44 | erikh | lol |
| 19:38.48 | NivFreak | he was given them during the raid for his SR gear to be made after |
| 19:38.51 | NivFreak | and he gquit after |
| 19:38.56 | sacarasc | but you just reminded me I need to go farm primal shadows for the gb |
| 19:39.27 | erikh | sometimes I wonder how much better wow would be if bosses just dropped badges |
| 19:39.36 | erikh | a lot less crying about loot |
| 19:39.52 | NivFreak | yea |
| 19:39.54 | NivFreak | it'd be great |
| 19:40.03 | NivFreak | but I think a lot of people are loot focused |
| 19:40.04 | Odlaw | and make pve loot as welfare as pvp? lawlz |
| 19:40.10 | NivFreak | I'm happy seeing new shit die |
| 19:40.18 | VonhintenHOME` | It would be easier, but it would also take the fun out of it |
| 19:40.38 | NivFreak | how about something like a boss specific token |
| 19:41.03 | CIA-44 | 03durcyn * r77488 10Waitlist/Waitlist.lua: Waitlist: clean up unused string |
| 19:41.04 | VonhintenHOME` | They need to do away with tokens for sets of classes, and just make them tokens, plus the named loot |
| 19:41.17 | NivFreak | yea, that'd be nice |
| 19:41.27 | NivFreak | our token balance is always way out of wack |
| 19:41.56 | NivFreak | I think we have 11 people on one token in tier6? |
| 19:42.15 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, we've gotten 3 defender tokens a couple times now in hyjal and TK, and we didn't have enough people to give em to |
| 19:42.22 | ag` | while tokens makes some kind of sense it makes the game feel like a roller coaster. I mean, why would friendly vendors hold all the god damn loot needed to kill Kil'jaeden? :P |
| 19:42.30 | VonhintenHOME` | ended up giving a pair of T6 gloves to a shit ass hunter that almost never raids with us |
| 19:42.31 | NivFreak | yea, we have 11-12 people on conq in any given raid |
| 19:42.42 | VonhintenHOME` | meanwhile the main raiders still don't have their T6 gloves |
| 19:42.49 | CIA-44 | 03durcyn * r77489 10Waitlist/Waitlist.lua: Waitlist: add 'report' command to help strings |
| 19:43.57 | NivFreak | we have 6 defenders, 5 vanqs, and 11 conqs (we're short full time raiders atm) |
| 19:44.19 | NivFreak | so yea, it's pretty brutal for our locks/priests/paladins |
| 19:44.37 | erikh | yeah, and everyone thinks they have some special entitlement |
| 19:44.38 | NivFreak | and of course we get nice streaks where no conq tokens drop |
| 19:44.55 | NivFreak | erikh: clearly only I do |
| 19:45.05 | erikh | yeah... heh. |
| 19:45.18 | erikh | just asked to be demoted last night because he's sick of the crying |
| 19:46.19 | erikh | we use a really simple system: preferred raid roster and free rolls on loot |
| 19:47.02 | erikh | despite the fact that we have great distribution and none of our main raiders are deprived, I get tons of freaking whispers every night about how so-and-so doesn't deserve epic-they-will-replace-in-3-weeks and they do |
| 19:48.03 | NivFreak | yea, we use suicide kings to have something similar with better definition |
| 19:50.08 | erikh | that's the thing though, our loot rules couldn't be more concrete: if you want something, type /roll |
| 19:50.25 | erikh | yet it's still non-stop bitching.. I mean, even the guild leader has to /roll |
| 19:50.31 | NivFreak | I ran a guild with /roll loot |
| 19:50.36 | NivFreak | it ends badly |
| 19:50.38 | NivFreak | :) |
| 19:50.44 | NivFreak | because some people end up with 2-3x the loot |
| 19:50.58 | erikh | like I said, our distribution is great |
| 19:51.00 | NivFreak | to me, that never mattered |
| 19:51.02 | NivFreak | to others it did |
| 19:51.07 | NivFreak | it's just perception |
| 19:51.35 | erikh | the problem right now is that we just merged in a smaller guild and we basically leapfrogged tk and ssc |
| 19:51.46 | erikh | the combination of the two means that pretty much everyone is rolling on everything |
| 19:51.51 | NivFreak | yep |
| 19:53.36 | erikh | yeah, between that and all the gbank leeches, I'm tired of being a punching bag |
| 19:53.54 | erikh | so I'm going to get demoted and be able to happily say "it's not my problem" to people :) |
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| 20:02.44 | Avrys | erikh - I was one of the officers that got nix'd in a recent merger too. I'm estatic, no more dealing with people being stupid :D |
| 20:04.58 | Lukian | Hmm, suggestions on an addon to use to monitor the uptime of Expose Weakness? (Survival HunteR) |
| 20:09.32 | erikh | Lukian: I like spellreminder, it can monitor damn near everything |
| 20:09.42 | Lukian | hmm |
| 20:09.48 | erikh | I use it for sheep on my mage and hots on my druid |
| 20:10.00 | Lukian | it's applied when I crit though |
| 20:10.09 | Lukian | I just want to know if it's up 100% of the time or it drops off lots |
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| 20:10.14 | erikh | and it can burp an expiration warning to SCT/Miksbt |
| 20:10.40 | BasementCat | uptime is really high on it |
| 20:11.10 | BasementCat | over 90% for most hunters |
| 20:11.11 | erikh | Lukian: it tracks my trinkets, but I can't recall if it tracks my idol of ferocity buff, which would be more like that. |
| 20:11.44 | Lukian | BasementCat, my crit is rather low atm |
| 20:11.50 | BasementCat | how low? |
| 20:11.59 | erikh | resto druid low? :P |
| 20:12.05 | Lukian | 18% unbuffed |
| 20:12.06 | BasementCat | hehe |
| 20:12.10 | BasementCat | o wow |
| 20:12.21 | Lukian | I've only played my hunter for about 4 days at level 70 |
| 20:12.27 | erikh | yeah, "low" is definitely relative here. |
| 20:12.29 | Lukian | ~735 agility atm |
| 20:12.41 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77490 10BadBoy/ (BadBoy.lua BadBoy.toc): BadBoy: Updated Blacklist |
| 20:13.28 | Lukian | I like survival's utility in pvp/5mans, and it's offers identical dps to BM for me if i'm buffing 4 melee classes |
| 20:14.24 | Avrys | that's... really low |
| 20:14.44 | Lukian | lol XD |
| 20:14.56 | Lukian | what part of fresh 70 don't you understand? XD |
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| 20:15.05 | Lukian | I've run kara all of 1.5times on that character |
| 20:17.24 | Avrys | MOAR FASTER GEAR ^_^ |
| 20:17.45 | cog|work | p3lim|away: would you mind posting about that global in my wowinterface bug report page? I'm sure i'll never remember otherwise :P |
| 20:18.24 | Daemona | so whats the opinion about the ne "Blizzard Authenticator" ? |
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| 20:18.45 | Lukian | oh I typed btw |
| 20:18.48 | Lukian | 28% crit :p |
| 20:18.52 | Avrys | aah |
| 20:18.58 | Avrys | that makes much more sense with 700+agi |
| 20:19.03 | Lukian | 6am ftl :D |
| 20:19.11 | Lukian | http://armorylite.com/us/jubei'thos/Zandor |
| 20:19.12 | Avrys | sleep is a crutch. |
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| 20:20.04 | erikh | Daemona: it's just your typical RSA keyfob |
| 20:20.22 | erikh | not sure why anyone would care enough to do that with a world of warcraft account, but oh well |
| 20:20.42 | Lukian | not to mention other people can't use your account (if you are into that kinda thing) |
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| 20:31.45 | DARKGuy | Blizzard Authenticator? |
| 20:31.47 | DARKGuy | wtf is that :O |
| 20:31.51 | DARKGuy | another warden? :P |
| 20:32.46 | durcyn | no, it's optional token-based authentication |
| 20:36.36 | BasementCat | explains that there is no ceilingcat |
| 20:37.03 | DARKGuy | Oh.. like challenge type? |
| 20:37.26 | DARKGuy | Ah |
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| 20:37.53 | p3lim|away | cog|work: sure mate |
| 20:38.27 | Vulcanus | stop lying, there is a ceiling cat |
| 20:38.27 | cog|work | ty :) |
| 20:38.32 | Fisker- | cog|work |
| 20:38.33 | Fisker- | it's you |
| 20:38.47 | Vulcanus | how are you gentleman |
| 20:38.50 | BasementCat | ceilingcat is just a lie |
| 20:38.59 | Fisker- | you helped me cog|work |
| 20:39.03 | BasementCat | you should come to the basement |
| 20:39.06 | Fisker- | i had an exam in finding errors |
| 20:39.09 | Aeyan | ~cake |
| 20:39.09 | purl | the cake is a lie! |
| 20:39.11 | Fisker- | so i just showed a screenshot of you |
| 20:39.14 | p3lim|away | cog|work: done |
| 20:39.15 | Fisker- | and i had found the error |
| 20:39.16 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 20:39.30 | Fisker- | must construct additional trolling |
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| 21:01.20 | NeoTron_ | Seems like Age of Conan is starting to show its true face |
| 21:01.38 | Dashkal | ? |
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| 21:07.35 | NeoTron_ | from one guy who played it for a while it's pretty buggy |
| 21:08.34 | DARKGuy | Well duh. |
| 21:08.36 | DARKGuy | WoW pwns. |
| 21:08.55 | Dashkal | No argument there. AoC is still in beta no matter what they claim |
| 21:09.01 | Dashkal | Collision detection is pretty borked |
| 21:09.28 | Dashkal | It's a good game, but it needs more time yet. |
| 21:10.10 | NeoTron_ | Wow launch wasn't perfect but even compared to a game taht was reasonbl stable (if with significant bugs)) - SWG - WoW was better and got better as well |
| 21:10.17 | Dashkal | nods |
| 21:10.23 | Dashkal | It wasn't ready for release |
| 21:10.23 | NeoTron_ | people underestimate how solid WoW actually is for an MMO |
| 21:10.39 | VonhintenHOME` | it took a while for wow to get to that point |
| 21:10.46 | VonhintenHOME` | if you remember the launch, it was fucked up big time |
| 21:10.49 | Dashkal | If you were to (blantly excessive example) feed the wow population to AoC, it would start firing out cogs at mach 1 |
| 21:10.57 | NeoTron_ | It seems most MMO's that fail completely (now conan had a nice hyped launch, no denying that) just were released too early (or were doomed to always fail) |
| 21:11.08 | Dashkal | I think AoC is going to survive |
| 21:11.28 | VonhintenHOME` | There's never going to be a launch that is as polished as games that have been out for years... it just won't happen |
| 21:11.29 | NeoTron_ | yeah, WoW was rusty at start due to excessive load and a lot of bugfixing/devtiem going to try to scale it fast enough |
| 21:11.40 | NeoTron_ | Conan likely will survive but it won't be near WoW in popularity |
| 21:11.44 | Dashkal | It can't be |
| 21:11.49 | Dashkal | M raiting. They embraced that |
| 21:11.51 | VonhintenHOME` | there aren't that many r&d dollars out there to shovel into that mostly unattainable goal |
| 21:12.01 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: point is, WoW was a lot better at launch than any other MMO I've tried |
| 21:12.20 | NeoTron_ | most MMO's it seems launch with a lack of content |
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| 21:12.32 | VonhintenHOME` | Maybe you got luck on your server, mine was down constantly (Deathwing) when I started |
| 21:12.43 | VonhintenHOME` | auction house and email systems kept killing the server |
| 21:12.49 | Dashkal | WAR will be similar. ASsuming they don't blow it they'll nab a good chunk of PvPers, and live on as a niche |
| 21:12.50 | breser | Most MMO developers drastically underestimate how long content will last. |
| 21:12.54 | NeoTron_ | like Auto Assault (sort of indy developed but stil) which had a very enjoyable start (first 30-40 levels at least if I Recall) but then started to slowly lack content and towards the last 10 levels there really was none at all |
| 21:13.11 | NeoTron_ | it lasted about a month for me |
| 21:13.12 | VonhintenHOME` | Mythic has a large MMO under their belt already, they know what to expect |
| 21:13.13 | NeoTron_ | maybe two |
| 21:13.25 | Dashkal | I just don't see either of them, even combined, taking over for wow |
| 21:13.28 | NeoTron_ | not a bad deal per se, for me, but not a great acomplishment fo an MMO |
| 21:13.34 | breser | Blizzard is a little better than most but even they put out content too slow as far as I'm concerned. |
| 21:13.50 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: as I said, that was more a pure load than bad quality |
| 21:13.52 | Dashkal | Nobody can put out content fast enough for the gaming population :p |
| 21:13.56 | Dashkal | Only all of them can |
| 21:14.00 | TrueDestiny8 | does anyone know if the ReloadUI command in WoW also reloads XML files? |
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| 21:14.06 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: server instability when you had as much subs in a month than you expected in 1-2 years, I can accept |
| 21:14.08 | Dashkal | This of course is why I'm playing AoC until WotLK |
| 21:14.15 | cog|work | TrueDestiny8: it reloads every file that existed at the time WoW was launched |
| 21:14.16 | NeoTron_ | it's the lack of content, abilities that don't work etc that kill MMO's |
| 21:14.16 | breser | TrueDestiny8: Yes it reloads xml files. |
| 21:14.20 | NeoTron_ | not launch hickups |
| 21:14.44 | TrueDestiny8 | ty... |
| 21:14.46 | VonhintenHOME` | It wasn't load, from a hardware perspective, they had constant reboots due to server memory leaks, or bad designs |
| 21:14.59 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: it was both |
| 21:15.03 | VonhintenHOME` | That's as much a problem as a blatant bug |
| 21:15.14 | NeoTron_ | yes they had software issues (it's a given), but they had a lot higher load than expected as well |
| 21:15.15 | VonhintenHOME` | right, ok, it was likely both |
| 21:15.23 | NeoTron_ | and higher load will inflate smaller issues |
| 21:15.43 | NeoTron_ | I swear I read a comment saying how they got the load they expected to reach in a year in a few weeks |
| 21:15.46 | cog|work | TrueDestiny8: fwiw, the extra stuff in my explanation means that if you add something to your .toc file (or create a file that was already in your .toc but didn't exist) you have to completely exit the game to get it to load |
| 21:15.55 | NeoTron_ | and had to scramble A LOT to even deploy servers at half the speed required |
| 21:16.27 | VonhintenHOME` | I know that I remember saying to a buddy about few weeks in "Man, I would not want to be a blizzard dev right now" |
| 21:16.28 | NeoTron_ | mainly my experience was a bit of bad lack in the newbie (first two really) areas for a week or so |
| 21:16.42 | NeoTron_ | after that I had very few recurring/common issues with downtime, excessive lag etc |
| 21:17.06 | VonhintenHOME` | deathwing was problematic for months |
| 21:17.09 | NeoTron_ | but you can also see in WoW the improvements they made |
| 21:17.14 | NeoTron_ | and it's not a given that improvements happen |
| 21:17.32 | NeoTron_ | if you look at SWG again, it started out reasonbly good (too early launch as usual) but then really didn't improve |
| 21:17.44 | NeoTron_ | they added new content, etc but bugs didn't just remain - they increased |
| 21:17.48 | NeoTron_ | quality decreased over time |
| 21:18.15 | NeoTron_ | every time a bug was fixed, two were introduced |
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| 21:18.22 | NeoTron_ | there were whole professions that were basically broken |
| 21:18.44 | VonhintenHOME` | I think Mythic can pull off a good game in the face of WoW. DAoC had a lot of new content, and they constantly changed the dynamics of RvR, which was sometimes good, sometimes bad, but never got stale |
| 21:18.50 | VonhintenHOME` | I think they can do the same with WAE |
| 21:18.52 | VonhintenHOME` | WAR |
| 21:20.02 | VonhintenHOME` | I think the problem with Mythic was they don't seem to be willing to dumb down meshes and effects to the degree that blizzard does in order to achieve a performant game |
| 21:20.44 | NeoTron_ | what gives me sort of a hint that WAR will fail was that they launched a beta and it was so bad they had to close it down and extend release date by a significant period of time |
| 21:21.03 | NeoTron_ | I guess I have a somewhat unique perspective |
| 21:21.14 | NeoTron_ | having played WoW for 11 months prior to release |
| 21:21.33 | VonhintenHOME` | That to me means that they're aware of what people want, and will spend more time getting there. Anyone who played DAoC and is waiting for WAR is waiting for a specific type of game |
| 21:21.48 | VonhintenHOME` | If it's not close, I want them to fix it |
| 21:21.52 | NeoTron_ | it was more solid, stability wise, 11 months before release (not content-complete and a lot of changes ofc) than many games are at release |
| 21:22.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll wait another year or two for a DAoC 2 |
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| 21:22.35 | NeoTron_ | I really want a WoW quality scifi/space mmo |
| 21:22.42 | Orphis_ | Is there really a DAoC 2 in preparation ? |
| 21:22.46 | NeoTron_ | or my most ultimate dream MMO - Mech Warrior |
| 21:22.56 | VonhintenHOME` | No Orphis, I'm hoping WAR fits the bill though |
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| 21:23.23 | Diskmaster | Oh hell, if they make a MW MMO, I'd be playing that till I die |
| 21:23.35 | Orphis_ | DAoC RvR was really good, that's the only "PvP" I've really enjoyed |
| 21:23.37 | Dashkal | I want WAR to take the entire arena population so they can leave and leave my previous PvE balance alone :p |
| 21:23.38 | VonhintenHOME` | not me, never was a fan of mech warrior |
| 21:23.41 | NeoTron_ | unfortunately I believe Microsoft owns the IP |
| 21:23.48 | NeoTron_ | Dashkal: omgyes |
| 21:23.57 | NeoTron_ | I want a purely PvE MMO |
| 21:24.05 | NeoTron_ | if WoW hadn't had pvp it'd been so much more enjoyable |
| 21:24.15 | VonhintenHOME` | Orphis, yep, I agree, WoW's PVP just doesn't hold a candle to DAoC's RVR |
| 21:24.17 | NeoTron_ | classes not having to be exactl balanced for example |
| 21:24.27 | Dashkal | I'm not sure I'd want that to go quite that far. I enjoy the odd battleground, and I'm really looking forward to Lake Wintergrasp. But I wish the arena had never happened |
| 21:24.54 | Dashkal | Large group PvP dampens down individual class imbalances |
| 21:25.02 | NeoTron_ | PvP balancing that affects PvE is bad |
| 21:25.06 | Dashkal | ^^^^ |
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| 21:25.18 | NeoTron_ | like how they tried to fuck up warlock's lifetap due to arenas (and thankfully did not) |
| 21:25.30 | Dashkal | But that's fine in large scale. An average skilled soldier will destroy an average scout hands down, doesn't mean TF2 is imbalanced for that reason |
| 21:25.52 | Dashkal | It's arenas that are making them try in vain to balance around 2v2 |
| 21:25.53 | NeoTron_ | arenas is where things got bad for sure |
| 21:26.01 | durcyn | balance is impossible with diverse classes |
| 21:26.06 | Dashkal | It is, and it should be |
| 21:26.07 | durcyn | but who the hell cares about balance |
| 21:26.22 | Dashkal | I loved the old school rock paper scissors bit |
| 21:26.36 | pewpewarrows | trying to strangle balance into a 2v2 or 3v3 format is just terrible |
| 21:26.40 | durcyn | if you want everyone to be the same, go play counterstrike. godamn short attention span arena monkeys. |
| 21:26.40 | Dashkal | phys DPS killed casters, casters killed plate, plate killed phys dps. that simple |
| 21:26.57 | VonhintenHOME` | it was never that simple |
| 21:27.06 | Dashkal | not fully, but that actually had some truth to it |
| 21:27.07 | pewpewarrows | if you admit from the getgo that you're only balancing for full groups then it gets much easier to maintain |
| 21:27.25 | Dashkal | now it doesn't mean a damn thing. Rogues owning warriors and such |
| 21:27.42 | Dashkal | warlocks who can "tank" in PvP better than plate wearers |
| 21:28.33 | Dashkal | meh. </rant> |
| 21:28.47 | durcyn | also, i feel like repeating the phrase 'short attention span arena monkeys' in the hopes it will enter common usage |
| 21:29.08 | Dashkal | too many words, durcyn. They'll lose interest after 'atten' |
| 21:29.28 | Dashkal | I only wish I was kidding... They really do have the attention of gnats |
| 21:30.33 | DARKGuy | I'm a warrior, and I hate rogues because they pwn me. |
| 21:30.34 | DARKGuy | It's so unfair |
| 21:30.37 | DARKGuy | </rant> |
| 21:30.53 | Dashkal | Eh, I'm a feral druid. I have more to QQ about :p |
| 21:30.58 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm a rogue and I get destroyed by any warrior that's geared as well as me |
| 21:31.26 | Dashkal | I get destroyed by everything. I'm a spec that isn't tuned for PvP combined with my natural aversion to pvp meaning no skill |
| 21:31.33 | DARKGuy | no wai :/ |
| 21:31.38 | Dashkal | In short: I'm pwned pretty damn quick |
| 21:31.38 | DARKGuy | have 2-3 rogues stunlock you D: |
| 21:31.51 | DARKGuy | lol Dashkal |
| 21:32.25 | VonhintenHOME` | What's really pissing me off lately in BG's, is healing on my pally... Mortal Strike bringing my largest heal down to 1900 |
| 21:32.30 | VonhintenHOME` | That's just retarded |
| 21:32.42 | durcyn | Dashkal: let's go with "I'm scissors, nerf rock. Paper's fine" then |
| 21:32.45 | Dashkal | Should see what that does to a feral's lifebloom... |
| 21:32.48 | Dashkal | *cackles* |
| 21:32.57 | pewpewarrows | i'd like to see healers get a spammable skill that reduces damage on a target by 50% |
| 21:33.02 | pewpewarrows | and see how that goes over |
| 21:33.05 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah |
| 21:33.34 | Dashkal | OMG Nerf Druids! |
| 21:33.37 | Dashkal | ahem |
| 21:33.40 | Dashkal | Not bitter at all |
| 21:33.45 | VonhintenHOME` | Basically, that warrior can do more damage to the person I'm healing than I can heal through. Essentially making 1 person stronger than 2 |
| 21:33.53 | VonhintenHOME` | which is just broken |
| 21:34.13 | pewpewarrows | and with melee getting all the armor ignore on their gear |
| 21:34.15 | pewpewarrows | what about casters |
| 21:34.25 | DARKGuy | That is, if a damned rogue doesn't come to stunlock the warrior :P |
| 21:34.40 | VonhintenHOME` | stunlock the warrior, giving him health and tons of rage to own the rogue with |
| 21:34.42 | durcyn | it's almost like the game is multiplayer, huh |
| 21:34.46 | durcyn | bring friends. |
| 21:35.08 | DARKGuy | Yeah, have two or three rogues sap him a lot |
| 21:35.16 | DARKGuy | he'd be stun for like, 45 sec |
| 21:35.28 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 21:35.30 | durcyn | no more than 20 |
| 21:35.42 | durcyn | DR is per category, not source |
| 21:36.03 | Ellipsis | <pewpewarrows> i'd like to see healers get a spammable skill that reduces damage on a target by 50% |
| 21:36.18 | Ellipsis | it's not quite "reduces damage by 50%" but there are things like earth shield |
| 21:36.20 | DARKGuy | But what if 3 rogues come unstealthed, one saps, then cooldown goes off and the warrior starts attacking, then 2nd one comes and saps again, blah blah repeat, then rogue 3 saps... |
| 21:36.25 | DARKGuy | that'd be horrible D: |
| 21:36.30 | DARKGuy | *unstealthed = stealthed |
| 21:36.34 | pewpewarrows | Ellipsis, there's a big difference |
| 21:37.15 | pewpewarrows | and when you throw armor ignore into the equation |
| 21:37.29 | pewpewarrows | any dinky little buffs on yourself are absolutely worthless |
| 21:37.31 | durcyn | no, DARKGuy, the target would go immune, and the 45 second timer is from the first application |
| 21:37.47 | durcyn | DARKGuy: don't forget that CC durations are decreased severely against pvp targets |
| 21:37.49 | Ellipsis | er....what does armor ignore have to do with earth shield exactly? |
| 21:38.11 | pewpewarrows | I'm thinking from an Inner Fire perspective as a Priest |
| 21:38.12 | DARKGuy | yeah, it's like less time for PvP, that's why. In PvP it's like 15 sec or something |
| 21:38.17 | Ellipsis | yeah, no |
| 21:38.20 | pewpewarrows | but the point still stands |
| 21:38.33 | pewpewarrows | you give healers a 50% damage decrease spammable skill |
| 21:38.41 | pewpewarrows | and see how that goes over with DPS'ers |
| 21:38.49 | pewpewarrows | and then you get to know how healers feel |
| 21:38.53 | Ellipsis | earth shield is kind of like a prayer of mending that doesn't jump, i.e. every time you take damage you get an instant heal |
| 21:39.09 | Ellipsis | mitigates a lot of damage |
| 21:39.12 | pewpewarrows | I know earth shield |
| 21:39.38 | durcyn | imagine pain suppression on a 6 second cooldown. that's mortal strike in pvp. |
| 21:39.48 | Dashkal | wouldn't a weak dot like rake counter that? |
| 21:39.49 | pewpewarrows | yep |
| 21:40.20 | Ellipsis | is pain suppression spammable? |
| 21:40.22 | Dashkal | note to self, lacerate people with earth shield, stun, then FF the other guy |
| 21:40.50 | Ellipsis | Dashkal: there's a per-tick cooldown on the earth shield heals, plus the shaman can just recast it |
| 21:41.09 | pewpewarrows | and the warrior can just reapply MS |
| 21:41.12 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: my thought was more to waste the shaman's mana than to really counter the earth shield |
| 21:41.25 | Ellipsis | if you're not doing any real damage they won't bother recasting it |
| 21:41.33 | pewpewarrows | and one buff on one class that barely mitigates does not excuse an archetype crippling skill that is spammable |
| 21:41.48 | Dashkal | that's when you stun the shammy and FF the target of the shield :p |
| 21:41.57 | Ellipsis | pfft |
| 21:41.57 | pewpewarrows | and to answer your question, PS is on a 2 min CD |
| 21:42.15 | Dashkal | prolly wouldn't work in arenas, but it works a dream in world pvp :p |
| 21:42.40 | Dashkal | that warrior went down pretty quick :p |
| 21:42.42 | Ellipsis | so we have a spammable healing reduction (MS) on one class, and a spammable damage mitigation (earth shield) on another class....what's the problem exactly? |
| 21:43.06 | pewpewarrows | do not just tell me you tried to compare earth shield to MS |
| 21:43.15 | [Ammo] | it still doesn't enlarge the penis of fat geeks in their moms basement |
| 21:43.20 | [Ammo] | and that's a real world problem |
| 21:43.24 | Ellipsis | ah, right |
| 21:43.37 | [Ammo] | and causes these endless discussions |
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| 21:49.44 | NeoTron_ | pewpewarrows: especially since MS reduces the effectiveness of earth shield |
| 21:50.00 | pewpewarrows | exactly |
| 21:50.01 | NeoTron_ | if earthshield reduced the healing reduction of MS by 50% perhaps there would be a case |
| 21:50.25 | pewpewarrows | not to mention that the two aren't even comparable |
| 21:50.38 | Dashkal | I want a 6s buff I can cast that gives +25% healing on the target |
| 21:50.42 | Ellipsis | there's also the fact that earth shield is part of an otherwise useful spec, and MS...well... |
| 21:50.58 | pewpewarrows | ES will mitigate maybe 2k damage, the charges are delayed, and if you start spamming it good bye mana pool |
| 21:51.35 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: MS warriors have roles in raids as well |
| 21:51.53 | Ellipsis | well, let me put it this way |
| 21:52.03 | Ellipsis | if earth shield was removed from the game, shamans would still spec resto |
| 21:52.09 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that actually sorts you bank/inventory's content after type, not just displays it that way? |
| 21:52.10 | Ellipsis | if MS was removed, how many warriors would respec? |
| 21:52.23 | pewpewarrows | earth shield does not permanently cripple all DPS classes |
| 21:52.28 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: for pvp? all of them, for pve? depends on their role |
| 21:52.30 | pewpewarrows | MS permanently cripples healing classes |
| 21:52.37 | Cheads | Ellipsis that's because the other shaman specs sucks? =) |
| 21:52.44 | Ellipsis | lies |
| 21:52.56 | Ellipsis | the only thing that sucks about dps shamans is their threat output |
| 21:53.09 | AckisWork | which is why they have ankh ;) |
| 21:53.12 | Cheads | thought we were talking pvp |
| 21:53.14 | erikh | hah. |
| 21:53.20 | Ellipsis | if we're talking about pvp then why did you say they suck? :) |
| 21:53.56 | Cheads | because they do? |
| 21:54.01 | KriLL3 | Cheads: which doesn't suck? |
| 21:54.17 | Ellipsis | sounds like a well thought-out argument to me |
| 21:54.30 | Cheads | well some specs are just slightly better at pvp than others |
| 21:54.48 | KriLL3 | pft, some outright sucks |
| 21:55.04 | KriLL3 | retri pala, balance druid, elemental and enchantment shaman |
| 21:55.24 | erikh | warrs still have to have rage to use MS |
| 21:55.38 | pewpewarrows | that they get back almost instantly |
| 21:56.05 | Dashkal | range and energy are infinte for all intents and purposes... |
| 21:56.10 | Ellipsis | warriors get rage if someone sneezes within 20 yards of them |
| 21:56.12 | Dashkal | rage* |
| 21:56.22 | Cheads | I doubt many would claim that elemental shaman and enhancement shaman are the best pvp specs |
| 21:56.39 | Ellipsis | I have little experience with elemental, but enhancement shamans can hold their own |
| 21:56.53 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: don't make me giggle |
| 21:56.56 | Ellipsis | depends on your playstyle |
| 21:57.16 | KriLL3 | they hit like a girl |
| 21:57.20 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 21:57.35 | Ellipsis | I'm female and I can make you cry |
| 21:57.39 | Ellipsis | bad choice of phrasing :P |
| 21:57.45 | Dashkal | May I watch? |
| 21:57.49 | KriLL3 | class and spec? |
| 21:58.03 | Ellipsis | I play an affliction warlock |
| 21:58.09 | Dashkal | flees |
| 21:58.12 | KriLL3 | aka ezmode |
| 21:58.16 | erikh | plays a MS warr |
| 21:58.17 | Ellipsis | yes, totally ezmode |
| 21:58.23 | erikh | in pvp at least. |
| 21:58.26 | Ellipsis | I don't pvp :) |
| 21:58.36 | Cheads | seriously, do you really mean enhancement shamans are a good pvp spec? |
| 21:58.50 | Ellipsis | if your playstyle tends more towards melee than sitting back and healing? absolutely |
| 21:58.59 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 21:59.02 | pewpewarrows | ... |
| 21:59.03 | KriLL3 | they don't deal damage |
| 21:59.11 | KriLL3 | and they're crummy healers |
| 21:59.18 | VonhintenHOME` | I've gotten worked by a few enh shaman on my rogue |
| 21:59.23 | VonhintenHOME` | Lightning shield is a fucking biatch |
| 21:59.26 | WatchoutX | Any Omen insider there? |
| 21:59.52 | KriLL3 | VonhintenHOME`: I deal more dmg in bearform than a S3 enchantment shaman, and they don't deal any dmg on me... |
| 22:00.06 | Cheads | yeah, enhancemen shaman are better at melee than affliction warlocks, that's true |
| 22:00.09 | VonhintenHOME` | You're a druid, we already know druids are OP'd |
| 22:00.18 | Ellipsis | facepalms |
| 22:00.25 | KriLL3 | pfft, I'm feral, I'm not allowed into the arena... |
| 22:00.32 | Dashkal | laughs |
| 22:00.45 | Cheads | they have pathetic damage, crappy healing and CC? |
| 22:00.52 | Dashkal | If you have an enh shammy that can't out-dps your bear form, you have a crappy enh shammy, nothing more |
| 22:01.09 | erikh | my experience agrees with that |
| 22:01.13 | KriLL3 | Dashkal: S3... yes... crappy |
| 22:01.27 | Dashkal | S3... yes.. crappy <--- truth. S3 is easy to get |
| 22:01.37 | Dashkal | I have a sub 1500 raiting and the s3 chest |
| 22:01.42 | NeoTron_ | full S3 requires some skill |
| 22:01.44 | KriLL3 | does it matter if it's easy to get? it was the best pvp gear... |
| 22:01.47 | NeoTron_ | less now but still |
| 22:01.55 | Dashkal | skill > gear |
| 22:01.58 | NeoTron_ | KriLL3: it matters in that it doesn't indicate skill |
| 22:02.19 | KriLL3 | NeoTron_: skill isn't a factor in how hard you hit |
| 22:02.24 | Ellipsis | yes it is |
| 22:02.28 | Dashkal | If you've been carried by losing arenas for points and some wintraiding/team buying for the shoulders/weap, you can easily suck in full s3 |
| 22:02.37 | Ellipsis | if you mash the wrong buttons you'll do worse than if you actually know the class |
| 22:03.05 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: how hard is it to mash between 1-5 buttons? :P |
| 22:03.15 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: windfury hits at 400~ dmg, does it matter how skillful you are? |
| 22:03.19 | Dashkal | AckisWork: you endgame... you should know how hard that is :p |
| 22:03.26 | Ellipsis | how hard is it to mash buttons? not hard at all. how hard is it to mash the RIGHT buttons without knowing anything? pretty damn hard. |
| 22:03.32 | Dashkal | ^^^ |
| 22:03.51 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: enhancement shamans do more than just autoattack and wait for windfury to proc. |
| 22:03.56 | Ellipsis | if not, they're doing it wrong |
| 22:04.00 | pewpewarrows | that's why you bind mortal strike, charge, and hamstring to every key on your keyboard |
| 22:04.00 | erikh | like affliction locks that completely ignore shadow trance, or ferals that don't use bleed effects and mangle at the same time |
| 22:04.01 | KriLL3 | Ellipsis: like what? |
| 22:04.02 | Arrowmaster | FYI for those with GH3 on 360, free download of I Am Murloc right now |
| 22:04.07 | pewpewarrows | leave nothing to chance |
| 22:04.14 | Ellipsis | KriLL3: gee, I dunno...stormstrike? shocks? |
| 22:04.24 | Ellipsis | maybe even *gasp* totems?! |
| 22:04.29 | KriLL3 | that's what, 4 buttons? |
| 22:04.34 | Dashkal | making sure they always face you so the weapon actually _hits_ them? |
| 22:04.44 | Dashkal | dances around bad melee types all the time |
| 22:04.49 | KriLL3 | Dashkal: I love running through ppl |
| 22:04.53 | Dashkal | The stupid ones let me shread like crazy |
| 22:04.56 | Cheads | yeah, so damn easy to get rid off the hard hitting melee and stunlocks =) |
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| 22:05.15 | Dashkal | A paladin guarding the UC flame last night met her end that way |
| 22:05.28 | Dashkal | too stupid to face me so did no damage and got shred crits |
| 22:07.05 | KriLL3 | paladins don't deal dmg |
| 22:07.17 | NeoTron_ | sure they do |
| 22:07.41 | Ellipsis | the only class in the game designed to kill by boredom instead of by taking away your health... |
| 22:08.29 | erikh | dunno, we have a couple of ret pallies in our guild that are absolutely amazing |
| 22:08.47 | NeoTron_ | that sad |
| 22:08.51 | NeoTron_ | *said |
| 22:08.59 | Ellipsis | you should recruit some dps instead :P |
| 22:09.02 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5019478/world-of-warcraft-song-coming-to-guitar-hero-iii |
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| 22:09.21 | Dashkal | I dunno, ret pallies HURT |
| 22:09.27 | erikh | Ellipsis: actually they beat the living crap out of the rest of our dps, heh. they are really skilled and well-geared and infamous on the server |
| 22:09.28 | Dashkal | They just go OOM pretty quick |
| 22:09.29 | NeoTron_ | ret pallies in raids are pretty godly |
| 22:09.34 | erikh | Dashkal: yep |
| 22:09.42 | erikh | lots of haste and mana pots |
| 22:09.48 | Dashkal | at my resi (150ish), I die before they go oom |
| 22:09.48 | erikh | go through them like mage food |
| 22:10.12 | Dashkal | but that one last night couldn't keep facing me so that was that |
| 22:10.12 | NeoTron_ | horde pallies do like 200 dps more due to Seal of Blood |
| 22:10.13 | Arrowmaster | 'Blizzard president/ Level 70 bassist Mike Morhaime' i did not know that |
| 22:10.33 | erikh | NeoTron_: yeah, they bitch about that constantly |
| 22:10.35 | NeoTron_ | regardless 3% extra crit to the raid can't be denied |
| 22:10.42 | NeoTron_ | nor can a permanent JoW on the boss |
| 22:10.48 | NeoTron_ | erikh: it's dumb |
| 22:10.54 | NeoTron_ | it makes sense to bitch |
| 22:10.58 | VonhintenHOME` | you don't need a ret pally for 3% extra crit, I have it on my prot pally |
| 22:11.01 | NeoTron_ | what if alliance warlocks did 300 dps more than horde |
| 22:11.12 | erikh | oh, i'm not saying they're not within their right |
| 22:11.23 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: a prot pally doens't have stormstrike however |
| 22:11.31 | erikh | they just talk about it to the point of nausea :) |
| 22:11.48 | VonhintenHOME` | The real benefit to the ret pally is that all your pally's can judge something and have the ret pally keep it up with crusader strike |
| 22:11.54 | VonhintenHOME` | Neo, you mean crusader strike? |
| 22:12.01 | NeoTron_ | err yes |
| 22:12.10 | NeoTron_ | I read something about shaman so my mind got confuzzled |
| 22:13.18 | erikh | yeah, a large chunk of our raid melee dps is delivered by two ret pallies, a enh shaman, and a sublety rogue.. which incites giggles from new recruits until they're at the bottom of the dmg meter a few times |
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| 22:13.46 | Avrys | erikh - What level of content? |
| 22:13.50 | erikh | hyjal |
| 22:14.28 | erikh | they are really good players, but that said a lot of the people gawking aren't really that good. |
| 22:14.40 | erikh | so they have an automatic advantage. |
| 22:14.52 | laeg | do you guys bother to train your alts in cooking and fishing or do you just get your main to do it for them with the meat the get etc? |
| 22:15.09 | erikh | fishing yes, cooking no. |
| 22:15.11 | NeoTron_ | I have one char with cooking |
| 22:15.22 | NeoTron_ | fishing I have not yet bothered to max out - think I got to 275ish or so |
| 22:15.25 | NeoTron_ | just so damn boring |
| 22:15.31 | Ellipsis | I don't even bother with first aid on my alts >_> |
| 22:15.53 | laeg | boring idd |
| 22:15.58 | Ellipsis | fishing is like...if I really want to fish, I might as well be doing it somewhere where the stuff I get will actually be useful |
| 22:16.01 | erikh | NeoTron_: the thing is, @ 375 you still need to buff and use buffed gear to fish for the good stuff |
| 22:16.23 | laeg | i can understand why training them in fishing would prove fruitful because you're gathering the materials to make food useful to them at their level |
| 22:16.31 | erikh | don't bother fishing in terrokar unless you're at effective 495, f.e. |
| 22:16.44 | laeg | i've just discovered i can cook nice rogue food |
| 22:16.52 | laeg | 20 agi and spirit from beasts in terrokar |
| 22:16.59 | laeg | 7500hp |
| 22:17.33 | laeg | NeoTron_: it is boring but once it's done it's done and you can fish anywhere |
| 22:17.37 | laeg | that is once maxed |
| 22:17.40 | NeoTron_ | until wotlk |
| 22:17.47 | laeg | touché |
| 22:17.47 | laeg | :) |
| 22:17.51 | NeoTron_ | where it will be ever MORE boring |
| 22:18.00 | NeoTron_ | sicne it uses a linear "catches per level" thing |
| 22:18.11 | erikh | well, you'll still miss lots of casts in terrokar/skettis unless you have a good pole and +100 bait |
| 22:18.14 | laeg | speaking of wotlk, i know they won't but wouldn't it be great if they introduced a third playable opposing faction? |
| 22:18.28 | laeg | erikh: like the pole from the bootuy bay sunday competition? |
| 22:18.29 | NeoTron_ | compared to crafting in general you also have to be there, active, pressying with the mouse on the screen |
| 22:18.38 | erikh | laeg: yep, the +75 fishing pole |
| 22:18.40 | NeoTron_ | while with creation profession syou have the queue |
| 22:18.45 | breser | Yes and they could call it wesuckmorethanallianceatpvp |
| 22:18.49 | NeoTron_ | and gathering, at least you don't just standin one spot for hours on end |
| 22:18.52 | erikh | breser: heh. |
| 22:18.53 | laeg | NeoTron_: yes but you get good food with stats which otherwise you'd have to pay someone for |
| 22:19.09 | NeoTron_ | in the end, it's better to buy it and do dailies to finance it |
| 22:19.14 | laeg | erikh: i've got a +10 pole from the zone between darnassus and ashenvale |
| 22:19.16 | laeg | fishing quest |
| 22:19.26 | NeoTron_ | very rarely is gathering actually profitable on a gold per hour basis |
| 22:19.32 | erikh | laeg: there's a +20 from lower city, and you can generally find big iron fishing poles on the AH |
| 22:19.42 | laeg | ahh |
| 22:19.42 | laeg | sorry i have big iron |
| 22:19.46 | Ellipsis | I just use seth's |
| 22:19.50 | NeoTron_ | that's what.. he said |
| 22:19.50 | laeg | lower city, is that in shat? |
| 22:19.52 | Ellipsis | too lazy to do the competition |
| 22:19.55 | erikh | the latter is what I use, and with +100 bait I think I miss 1/10 casts in terrokar maxed out |
| 22:20.16 | laeg | each fish is probably worth a lot at that level too, erikh? |
| 22:20.22 | Ellipsis | laeg: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25978 |
| 22:20.22 | erikh | 505 or 507 is the cap, IIRC |
| 22:20.31 | Arrowmaster | i just use my +35 pole and my +80 hat |
| 22:20.37 | Ellipsis | it's like a 2-min quest to get that one |
| 22:20.50 | erikh | yeah. a stack of golden fish sticks goes on our server for 30g, and crawdad and fisherman's feast go for a lot more |
| 22:21.20 | erikh | fish sticks being healer food, and the latter two being tank food |
| 22:21.21 | breser | I can spend 10 minutes and fish up enough fish to last several days. |
| 22:21.44 | breser | Or I can go to the AH and spend gold. The question is do you have the 10 minutes or not. |
| 22:22.04 | erikh | yep, I generally spend an hour or two a week and hook up most of the healers |
| 22:22.38 | NeoTron_ | I farm the food I need.. by kiling basilisks |
| 22:22.42 | erikh | chasing the crawdad pools around is a pain in the ass, but occasionally you get a huge spotted feltail from the regular water and you can make fisherman's feast out of that |
| 22:22.47 | NeoTron_ | there's a fish equivalent but ... basilisks are dang easy to kill |
| 22:22.51 | erikh | which is equivalent to crawdad |
| 22:22.55 | NeoTron_ | I usually do two rounds in terokkar |
| 22:23.38 | Ellipsis | there's like 4 equivalents for our spell dmg food |
| 22:23.50 | Ellipsis | serpent, basilisk, bluefish, and something |
| 22:23.51 | erikh | eh, farming is a pain in the ass when you're resto/holy |
| 22:23.59 | erikh | fishing is the same no matter what spec you are |
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| 22:24.53 | laeg | btw |
| 22:24.59 | laeg | Ellipsis: i will look at that now |
| 22:25.07 | laeg | also guys, i'm a rogue and being asked to choose aldor or scryer |
| 22:25.10 | laeg | ? |
| 22:25.16 | Dashkal | You must do fishing: If you don't you can't get the fishing beer cooking recipie! And ARL will taunt you |
| 22:25.21 | Chompers | aldor for the sword |
| 22:25.25 | Chompers | and the enchant |
| 22:25.40 | erikh | heh, I just got "find fish" the other day |
| 22:25.45 | laeg | ty Chompers |
| 22:25.46 | erikh | which is completely awesome. |
| 22:25.58 | Dashkal | agreed. very handy when you need that specific fish in a hurry |
| 22:26.11 | Dashkal | or when searching for water motes |
| 22:26.15 | erikh | or when you're hunting crawdad on an old and heavily-farmed server |
| 22:26.22 | laeg | Ellipsis: nice dps on that pole :) |
| 22:26.25 | laeg | bookmarked for tomorrow |
| 22:26.28 | Dashkal | I never hunt crawdad. I get my supply of them from the fishing daily :p |
| 22:26.47 | erikh | since I think there's only 16 pools total, 5-6 of them up at any time |
| 22:26.49 | Ellipsis | I only fish crawdad for mr. pinchy |
| 22:26.56 | Ellipsis | I have way too much food taking up space in my bank already -.- |
| 22:26.57 | erikh | yeah, I really want mr. pinchy. |
| 22:27.07 | Ellipsis | I got one once but he only gave me dumb buffs :( |
| 22:29.36 | erikh | isn't one of the bonuses a pet? I'm too lazy to look it up |
| 22:29.42 | erikh | err, potential bonuses |
| 22:31.18 | laeg | i'm rogue 62 and only don't one quest in zangamarsh which is 60-64 but my friend is questing in terrokar which is 62-65 and i can make great rogue food from the beasts |
| 22:31.32 | laeg | any reason i should skip zanga altogether? i already got the imba rogue helm scout's hood |
| 22:31.36 | laeg | *shouldn't |
| 22:31.43 | laeg | s/done/don;'t |
| 22:31.45 | lifetapt | Question: Would recoding my addon's options menu using pure lua instead of using xml save at all on memory? |
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| 22:32.21 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 22:33.15 | Arrowmaster | unless your going to reuse a bunch of stuff in teh lua method vs having a bunch of duplicate stuff in the xml method |
| 22:33.26 | lifetapt | But it would allow it to be loaded when necessary only |
| 22:34.13 | Arrowmaster | unless your using an LoD addon it will still take up memory either way |
| 22:34.28 | Arrowmaster | and memory isnt really a concern |
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| 22:35.36 | lifetapt | Well I'm trying to find ways to use less of it, I come from vb6/vb.net so my code isn't very optimized |
| 22:37.12 | elite3vil | all I remember from the vb classes I took in high school is that I hate semicolons |
| 22:37.29 | elite3vil | or maybe that was C |
| 22:37.43 | elite3vil | either way. ;'s are the devil. |
| 22:38.20 | Dashkal | lifetapt: Don't optomize memory unless you actually need to. Saving a few K here and there isn't using your time very well |
| 22:38.32 | Dashkal | And won't mean a thing to users |
| 22:39.42 | lifetapt | Alright I'll keep that in mind then, I was just worried since my addon seems to use a lot of memory when idle. |
| 22:40.57 | erikh | elite3vil: program in ruby for a few months, you'll appreciate those semicolons. |
| 22:41.01 | Dashkal | Consider that people are playing with a gig or more of ram and that the game itself takes up most of that. Your addon isn't contributing much unless your breaking the 100 meg part |
| 22:41.15 | erikh | likes how perl handles it the best |
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| 22:47.39 | NeoTron_ | nice and a good idea - blizzard authenticator token |
| 22:48.00 | NeoTron_ | especially if you're a GM in a big guild it'd almost be negligable not to get it |
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| 22:56.49 | NimbleRabit | is there an addon that will put a number on buffs instead of just the default way of seeing time remaining |
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| 22:57.59 | Mytos | anyone really good with macro code online that can help me with a shapeshift/spell macro |
| 22:58.22 | Pkekyo| | ~date |
| 22:58.22 | purl | It is now 2008.06.26 22:58:22 GMT |
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| 22:59.26 | sdouble | Anyone ever transfer a character? I'm about to but I was wondering what you can take with you. Can you take everything in your bank, inventory, and such? |
| 22:59.37 | sdouble | I also heard there was a limit on money |
| 22:59.37 | selckin | yes |
| 22:59.42 | selckin | 5000g |
| 22:59.46 | selckin | its all documented, go read |
| 22:59.48 | sdouble | oh, no problem then |
| 22:59.55 | sdouble | I didn't see it when I looked |
| 22:59.59 | Mytos | its gotta be in your bank or your bags, cant be in the mail or a guild bank |
| 23:00.12 | selckin | its a rediculous low amount imo :\ |
| 23:00.31 | Mytos | it kinda makes sense though |
| 23:00.41 | selckin | most ppl i have have over 15K gold |
| 23:00.44 | selckin | *know |
| 23:00.55 | Mytos | ive got 50g, wanna give me a loan lol |
| 23:00.55 | selckin | gbank has like 200k |
| 23:01.34 | Mytos | seriously nobody on that does macrossss :( |
| 23:01.53 | selckin | just ask the question, asking to ask is just wasting time |
| 23:03.04 | Mytos | #show |
| 23:03.04 | Mytos | #showtooltip |
| 23:03.04 | Mytos | /cast [modifier:alt, target=player][help] Regrowth; [harm] Wrath; [target=mouseover, help] Regrowth; [target=mouseover, harm] Wrath; Regrowth |
| 23:03.26 | Mytos | can anyone tell me how to stop that from shifting me out of moonkin if i hit it without a target |
| 23:03.51 | Zyndrome | stances |
| 23:03.59 | Diao | turn off autoshift |
| 23:04.10 | Mytos | i know, but im not sure where to put stances in it, and i need autoshift for other macros |
| 23:04.59 | selckin | its autoselfcasting and autoshifting out |
| 23:05.39 | Mytos | exactly, if i take out the last ;regrowth itll stop doing it, but then it wont cast regrowth on me at all |
| 23:06.08 | selckin | [stance:5] is moonkin |
| 23:06.19 | selckin | [nostance] regrowth |
| 23:06.29 | Mytos | ok, let me try |
| 23:07.01 | Mytos | ok that fixed it, thanks |
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| 23:09.30 | NeoTron_ | we had a guy transfer 20k gold with im I think |
| 23:09.42 | NeoTron_ | he transferred 4 characters, or maybe 3 and buying stuff to sell |
| 23:10.01 | NeoTron_ | he said it was kind of a pain |
| 23:10.34 | Mytos | yeah, it would be a pain, but at the same time if you did it right its possible to make a bundle out of it |
| 23:11.15 | NeoTron_ | I think I'll try to make the blizz RSA token (or whatever it is) a requirement for the guild council (has guild bank accesS) and recommended for guild officers |
| 23:11.33 | Mytos | rsa token? |
| 23:14.01 | Dashkal | Mytos: http://www.blizzard.com/us/press/080626-auth.html |
| 23:14.49 | NeoTron_ | basically make your account more or less unhackable |
| 23:15.01 | NeoTron_ | since you need a new single use code every time you log in |
| 23:15.07 | Dashkal | snorts |
| 23:15.09 | Dashkal | No such thing |
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| 23:15.40 | NeoTron_ | raises an eyebrow. |
| 23:15.45 | Xelopheris | does PVP trinket not produce an event or something? |
| 23:15.46 | NeoTron_ | I use such a thing for my company vpn |
| 23:16.11 | Mytos | no, he means no such thing as "unhackable" |
| 23:16.14 | Dashkal | ^^ |
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| 23:16.35 | NeoTron_ | "more or less" <-- that |
| 23:16.35 | Kuosi | Xelopheris: nop |
| 23:16.42 | Xelopheris | wow, hella gay |
| 23:16.52 | Kuosi | so cant make addon xx used trinket |
| 23:17.10 | Dashkal | I'm just afraid some vulnerability in the number generator will be found or something equally unexpected |
| 23:17.22 | Mytos | im sure within a few weeks of someone getting ahold of one they can crack the generation process for the codes and then its just useless |
| 23:17.24 | NeoTron_ | it likely IS an rsa token |
| 23:17.36 | Dashkal | Which, if done right, would be pretty secure, yes |
| 23:17.37 | sdouble | i found the gold limit for transfers. 70s can take 10k with them |
| 23:17.39 | NeoTron_ | don't they work sort of like an atomic clock? |
| 23:17.48 | Xelopheris | Not really |
| 23:17.50 | NeoTron_ | really has no clue. |
| 23:17.54 | Xelopheris | they just have an algorithm that's non-reversable |
| 23:18.04 | Xelopheris | a server is synched to it by taking three numbers in a row |
| 23:18.08 | NeoTron_ | but the token has to be synced with the server |
| 23:18.09 | Dashkal | But, for example, what happens if you hit the button a bunch of extra times? |
| 23:18.21 | NeoTron_ | the token I have today changes number every minute |
| 23:18.23 | NeoTron_ | no button |
| 23:18.25 | Xelopheris | then when you submit to the server, it checks the previous current and next values for the token |
| 23:18.38 | Xelopheris | they change every 30-60s depending on which ones you buy |
| 23:18.40 | Dashkal | Consider this sits on your keyring. Accidental pushes aren't just possible, they're likely |
| 23:18.50 | Xelopheris | It's timed, not pushed |
| 23:18.55 | NeoTron_ | this one says it's pushed |
| 23:19.02 | NeoTron_ | but more likely |
| 23:19.04 | Xelopheris | what one says its pushed? |
| 23:19.06 | NeoTron_ | the 'push' just enables the lcd |
| 23:19.15 | NeoTron_ | the blizzard token |
| 23:19.24 | Xelopheris | I know what you're talking about |
| 23:19.31 | Xelopheris | where the hell are you reading that it's pushed sequence? |
| 23:19.33 | Xelopheris | because that makes no sense |
| 23:19.40 | Dashkal | if pushing it just wakes up the LCD, that'll work |
| 23:19.44 | NeoTron_ | The digital code is a six-digit numeric code that is produced when you press the button on the front of your Blizzard Authenticator. |
| 23:19.45 | Xelopheris | rsa tokens are based on what the value should be at XXX time |
| 23:19.55 | Mytos | id say "at the push of a button" is just a common phrase theyre using to describe it to less technical people more than an actual button |
| 23:20.08 | Xelopheris | It's probably just lcd hidden until then |
| 23:20.10 | NeoTron_ | regardless I'm getting one |
| 23:20.11 | Dashkal | "produced" could either mean "brought up" or "generated" the former would be fine |
| 23:20.16 | Dashkal | the latter would be very bad |
| 23:20.33 | NeoTron_ | I think the guild bank I have access to have 50-100k worth in epic gems alone |
| 23:20.54 | Mytos | either way, its only 7 bucks and even if its badly implemented itll add atleast a small degree of security, imo its worth it |
| 23:21.03 | NeoTron_ | I'm highly unlikely to be hacked (since I know what I'm doing) but the chance is always there |
| 23:21.18 | Dashkal | I'm gonna wait and see how this comes out, then I'll consider it |
| 23:21.24 | NeoTron_ | a fellow SWP guild got their bank hacked |
| 23:21.28 | Dashkal | I'm also under the "unlikely to be hacked" group. |
| 23:21.32 | NeoTron_ | becuase the officer had signed up for a wotlk beta |
| 23:21.37 | Dashkal | Never surf for porn without a condom... |
| 23:21.38 | NeoTron_ | I just loled |
| 23:21.42 | Mytos | id say at any given time when 90% of players get "hacked" its a keylogger or theyre sharing accounts |
| 23:22.03 | Dashkal | Had a guildie get hacked thanks to him somehow getting redirected to a gold farmer website... with IE |
| 23:22.08 | Dashkal | bye bye guild bank... |
| 23:22.19 | Dashkal | good thing the important tab was GL only |
| 23:22.35 | Dashkal | I damn near strangled him when he tried to blame an addon |
| 23:23.26 | WatchoutX | Anyone here knows details about Threat-2.0 ? |
| 23:24.03 | Mytos | ive had guildies tell me that they got a trojan and couldnt control their mouse and thats how all their stuff got sharded, two weeks later we found out the retard had a busted mouse and his cousin had jacked all his gear |
| 23:24.17 | Stanzilla | points at Xinhuan and Antiarc |
| 23:24.55 | WatchoutX | Stanzilla, it seems they're away :-/ |
| 23:25.40 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan's a robot, seems like he is in standby mode |
| 23:27.00 | Mytos | any new must have mods out lately? |
| 23:27.06 | WatchoutX | too bad, and his WOL feature seems broken :P |
| 23:27.56 | NeoTron_ | Mytos: this token would prevent both those cases |
| 23:28.38 | Mytos | thats if it works as intended, id say about 30% of what blizzard does ends up imploding lol |
| 23:28.49 | NeoTron_ | Mytos: my magic addons are good if you raid (especially if you lead) ;-) Magic Marker I personally consider must have for raid leading :P |
| 23:29.09 | elite3vil | Neo: Is the database up yet? |
| 23:29.14 | NeoTron_ | elite3vil: yes |
| 23:29.14 | Mytos | already have it :-D |
| 23:29.18 | NeoTron_ | MagicMarker_Data |
| 23:29.23 | Mytos | had it since beta |
| 23:29.28 | NeoTron_ | I will not tell you how complete it is but there's something |
| 23:29.48 | NeoTron_ | there's some 44 instances in it but I haven't verified if the instances actualyl are configured properly |
| 23:30.00 | elite3vil | Eh, now all I need is to talk to the person that usually marks stuff, and figure out which mark he wants on which mobs |
| 23:30.06 | NeoTron_ | ZA, BT, Hyjal and SWP up until M'uru should be fine since (I believe) my data is in there |
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| 23:30.48 | elite3vil | Well, that's all I'd need. |
| 23:30.52 | elite3vil | we're only on twins |
| 23:31.26 | Mytos | yeah im still in ending tk ssc/begining hyjal bt since i stopped playing for a few months |
| 23:31.29 | elite3vil | and it's not like I mark things in 5-mans as a prot pally. =P |
| 23:31.35 | NeoTron_ | yeah |
| 23:31.39 | Mytos | whats magic targets do? |
| 23:31.50 | NeoTron_ | Mytos: shows all targets for members of the raid |
| 23:31.59 | NeoTron_ | heard of Perfect Targets |
| 23:32.01 | NeoTron_ | ? |
| 23:32.07 | elite3vil | lol, we need that so we can yell at the idiots that don't assist. |
| 23:32.18 | NeoTron_ | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9098-MagicTargets.html |
| 23:32.25 | Mytos | nah, but ive used the party targets portion of pitbull, im assumeing its the same concept |
| 23:32.28 | NeoTron_ | it also shows when mobs are not tanked |
| 23:32.35 | NeoTron_ | it's probably similar |
| 23:32.43 | QuantumDelta | banzai lib |
| 23:32.44 | NeoTron_ | except you don't have to target stuff to see them listed here |
| 23:32.45 | QuantumDelta | all you need :< |
| 23:33.04 | NeoTron_ | it builds mobs and keeps them as lon as they are active (generating combat events) or known to be CC'd |
| 23:33.19 | NeoTron_ | or, of course, targeted |
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| 23:33.44 | NeoTron_ | I am going to add an emphasize / warning ssytem too |
| 23:33.55 | NeoTron_ | so it tells you when a mob has been untanked for a certain period of time etc |
| 23:34.10 | CIA-44 | 03durcyn * r77492 10Waitlist/Waitlist.lua: Waitlist: trim space from the end of whisper command filter string so we actually respond without args |
| 23:34.56 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: do you actually end up in hyjal at all anymore? |
| 23:34.57 | Mytos | is there any kind of mod that will tell the pitch angle in flight form or mounted, hate going afk expecting to be where i wanna be and get back to being halfway and hitting the world ceiling |
| 23:35.58 | Dashkal | FlightHUD will try, but it's actually using camera pitch, not player pitch |
| 23:35.59 | WatchoutX | afaik pitch and stuff is not available to addons |
| 23:36.17 | Mytos | flighthud? |
| 23:36.18 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: we're killing archimonde on sunday (with another guild's ID) and are trying for a semi-alt, semi-main offnigh raid July 5th |
| 23:36.53 | NivFreak | so you haven't used MM much in there |
| 23:37.13 | NeoTron_ | interestingly pitch can be determined by the speed of travel |
| 23:37.26 | NeoTron_ | not if you point up or down but degrees off the plane |
| 23:37.57 | Dashkal | That's how I do it manually. I use a speed mod and get it as high as I can for "level" |
| 23:37.59 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: I've used it in there plenty. we went there a lot |
| 23:38.05 | NeoTron_ | Dashkal: same |
| 23:38.13 | NeoTron_ | and it could be doen programaticall |
| 23:38.38 | NivFreak | I thought you were well out of hyjal by the time you made the multisweep changes |
| 23:38.56 | CIA-44 | 03durcyn * r77493 10Waitlist/Waitlist.lua: Waitlist: make whispers case-insensitive |
| 23:38.57 | NeoTron_ | hyjal isn't good for magic marker in general unless you ignore most mobs |
| 23:39.01 | NeoTron_ | there's too many |
| 23:39.04 | NivFreak | very true |
| 23:39.21 | NeoTron_ | and since it doesn't redo marking during combat (because that really does screw things up) it's just not that good |
| 23:39.23 | NivFreak | my attempts are really just to mark the larger threats there |
| 23:39.34 | NivFreak | things like abominations/necros/banshies |
| 23:39.36 | NeoTron_ | and of course the biggest isuse is that the casters usually come behind the stuff you want to ignore |
| 23:39.43 | NivFreak | yep |
| 23:39.52 | Mytos | flighthud is exactly what i was lookin for, thanks |
| 23:39.53 | NeoTron_ | and yes. I've considered ignoring aboms too since for us they rae of no consequence |
| 23:40.13 | NivFreak | aboms/necros are the most common cause of prot pally death for us |
| 23:40.17 | NeoTron_ | I never did hyjal with MM when it was actually hard to do |
| 23:40.30 | NeoTron_ | for aboms though we're good at pulling them out |
| 23:40.31 | NivFreak | with one of the OTs getting his aboms off them too slowly, or CC being slow due to drinking |
| 23:40.40 | NeoTron_ | I mean we can do a majority of hyjal with 2 tanks |
| 23:40.57 | Aerr | 2 tanks works out fine |
| 23:40.58 | NivFreak | I'm not sure how you'd do azgalor's trash with 2 tanks |
| 23:41.05 | NeoTron_ | and we haven't CC'd in there in any noticeable degree for many months |
| 23:41.07 | NivFreak | we still struggle with it |
| 23:41.10 | Mytos | lots of practice lol |
| 23:41.11 | Aerr | Good healers and one of em a geared protadin |
| 23:41.20 | NeoTron_ | yep |
| 23:41.32 | NeoTron_ | 7 months of farming Hyjal. 6 of BT. it pays off |
| 23:41.35 | Aerr | we usually BL on the first pull to ease into it |
| 23:41.38 | NivFreak | even with healers spamming max rank heals non-stop on our prot pally |
| 23:41.40 | NeoTron_ | but typically we'd haev a dps warrior/druid too |
| 23:41.46 | Aerr | NeoTron_, agreed |
| 23:41.47 | NivFreak | azgalor have waves that instagib our tank if we don't soften them |
| 23:41.59 | NivFreak | has |
| 23:42.03 | NeoTron_ | the main issue on azgalor trash is the first and 5th waves |
| 23:42.05 | NeoTron_ | 6th even |
| 23:42.09 | Aerr | We actually just switced out MT to a pally cause we got bored |
| 23:42.10 | NeoTron_ | we do use banishes btw |
| 23:42.25 | Aerr | its pretty lolable |
| 23:42.36 | NeoTron_ | for wave 6 just put the pally in full SR gear |
| 23:42.38 | Aerr | ya, 1-2 banished, all that crap |
| 23:42.42 | NeoTron_ | or if no such pally exists, just a warlock in full SR gear |
| 23:42.50 | Aerr | SR in hyjal? |
| 23:42.53 | Aerr | we use none >.> |
| 23:42.54 | NeoTron_ | yep |
| 23:42.57 | NivFreak | and then only worry about aboms? |
| 23:42.58 | NeoTron_ | you don't need it |
| 23:42.59 | Aerr | Grounding totems! |
| 23:43.03 | NeoTron_ | just makes it supar easy |
| 23:43.10 | NivFreak | we use SR on kazrogal still |
| 23:43.11 | NivFreak | 2-3 bits |
| 23:43.12 | NeoTron_ | there are no aboms in the 6th round |
| 23:43.14 | NeoTron_ | it's just casters |
| 23:43.18 | Aerr | have a warrior run up w/ spell reflect and a grounding totem |
| 23:43.23 | NivFreak | #6 is 6 aboms 6 necros right? |
| 23:43.38 | NeoTron_ | 6 necros, 6 wraiths or whatever they are |
| 23:43.43 | Aerr | it works out alllright |
| 23:43.43 | NivFreak | Aerr: I've tried, they bolts are staggered |
| 23:43.49 | NivFreak | we use a rogue with CoS+sprint |
| 23:43.52 | NeoTron_ | prot pally, full SR |
| 23:43.53 | Aerr | hes not moving fast enough up there |
| 23:43.58 | [PUPPETS]Gonzo | the magicmarker_data addon / database, is it for english locale only or generic usable? |
| 23:44.13 | NivFreak | not moving fast enough up there huh? |
| 23:44.26 | NeoTron_ | [PUPPETS]Gonzo: it's generically usable. however mob names will be in English (or honestly, I dunno if all the data is the same locale) until you see it in game |
| 23:44.32 | Aerr | NivFreak, our warrior is a moron, he can do it, we just tell him to run up first, and our pally pulls the aboms off him |
| 23:44.33 | NeoTron_ | at which point the names will be localized |
| 23:44.50 | NeoTron_ | however the data does use the mob ID as the key, not name, so it's only config UI display purpose that'd be an issue |
| 23:45.01 | NivFreak | <-- warrior |
| 23:45.05 | [PUPPETS]Gonzo | so I can use it on my german client, fine |
| 23:45.06 | [PUPPETS]Gonzo | thanks |
| 23:45.09 | NeoTron_ | yep |
| 23:45.21 | Aerr | Granted, we all plot against our warrior in the healer channel and let something simple kill him after that |
| 23:45.25 | NeoTron_ | [PUPPETS]Gonzo: I've thought about adding localized names.. makes sense |
| 23:45.59 | [PUPPETS]Gonzo | I am fine with engish names / texts as long as the addon knows, which mob is which :) |
| 23:46.06 | NivFreak | anyway, our paladin has a near full SR set now |
| 23:46.09 | NivFreak | so maybe we'll try that |
| 23:46.15 | NeoTron_ | super easy |
| 23:46.16 | NeoTron_ | really |
| 23:46.26 | NeoTron_ | as I said I've done it on my warlock |
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| 23:47.17 | Kuosi | um |
| 23:47.25 | Kuosi | you know just stomping a lot of totems works aswell |
| 23:47.29 | Kuosi | then rogues stun one each |
| 23:47.47 | NivFreak | ah sorry, wave 1 is 6 abombs 6 necros |
| 23:48.15 | NivFreak | we usually keep a fel stalker from wave 5 banished, and pull the tauren warriors up for the start of wave 6 |
| 23:48.21 | NivFreak | and let them take the engage |
| 23:48.47 | NeoTron_ | so get this. We had felmyst down to 1% (to be true, less than 1%) and she was in the air. we were on our last break and the call is made to run to the tree |
| 23:49.07 | NeoTron_ | and ofc it's the middle breath, not south breath so everyone except a few people are mind controlled and we wipe |
| 23:49.26 | NeoTron_ | wave one I'd recomment not using SR on the pally |
| 23:49.30 | NeoTron_ | but a SR lock can work |
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| 23:50.07 | NeoTron_ | we use sr pally for wave 6 because we have issues getting the taurens up there half the time. they keep stunning the mob that is brought to them and kill it before they get in range of the felhuner |
| 23:50.16 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:50.20 | NivFreak | it's a bitch |
| 23:50.26 | NivFreak | now what I do is |
| 23:50.28 | NivFreak | at the start of wave 5 |
| 23:50.33 | NivFreak | I grab an abom and build 25K threat |
| 23:50.39 | NivFreak | run back to the tauren warriors |
| 23:50.43 | NivFreak | get them to move |
| 23:50.49 | NivFreak | then use a speed pot to get back up front |
| 23:51.01 | NivFreak | 50% of the time I have to drag a 2nd abom to them half way |
| 23:51.16 | NivFreak | our hunter fails at it utterly |
| 23:51.44 | NivFreak | if you wait for them to catch up to the abom, they just chew him up while warstomped |
| 23:51.56 | NeoTron_ | we never considered yusing a tank to do it |
| 23:52.05 | NeoTron_ | probably a good idea because a hunter can't build sufficient threat |
| 23:52.10 | NivFreak | yep |
| 23:52.20 | NivFreak | and it took my a few tries to get it down |
| 23:52.28 | NivFreak | the main issue is how weird the taurn warrior aggro is |
| 23:52.34 | NivFreak | sometimes you get within 20 yards and they run |
| 23:52.42 | NivFreak | other times you can drag mobs over them twice before they move |
| 23:52.56 | NivFreak | and meanwhile, have another abomb getting threat built by a tank |
| 23:53.00 | NivFreak | if the 1st one gets stuck |
| 23:53.04 | NivFreak | you taunt the 2nd and run him back |
| 23:53.16 | NivFreak | so that you have another 25-30K threat on the 2nd one |
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| 23:53.29 | NivFreak | (I just have our prot pally tanking all the aboms on wave 5) |
| 23:53.52 | NivFreak | do you guys have your prot pally tank felstalkers? |
| 23:54.08 | NivFreak | that's the bit that's odd about azgalor's trash with prot pally + 1 tank |
| 23:54.11 | NivFreak | I can see it on the rest |
| 23:55.47 | NeoTron_ | so we're a 4/6 SWP guild... and we don't have a prot warrior |
| 23:56.04 | NeoTron_ | yes the pally tanks felstalkers |
| 23:56.15 | NeoTron_ | we banish them in the 5th wave but in earlier wave(s) we banish infernals |
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| 23:56.29 | NeoTron_ | but for azgalor we never go with <3 tanks |
| 23:56.38 | NeoTron_ | because we need (or rather, use) 3 tanks for the boss himself |
| 23:57.19 | RaydenUni | is there documentation somewhere explaining how useful the feral druid t4 2pc bonus is? |
| 23:57.27 | RaydenUni | all i've read is "keep it until you have full t6" |
| 23:57.32 | RaydenUni | but i want to know % and stuff |
| 23:57.52 | Mytos | its useful if you need it to get armorcapped, but 2piece t4 is unpassable until your talking almost t6 |
| 23:58.04 | NeoTron_ | RaydenUni: just use rawr or a spreadsheet or something? It's pretty easy to see |
| 23:58.38 | RaydenUni | how will rawr help? |
| 23:59.15 | NeoTron_ | it can calculate the value? |
| 23:59.26 | NeoTron_ | is it the armory bonus? |
| 23:59.48 | SunTsu | NeoTron_: No, it's the extra energy |
| 23:59.52 | NeoTron_ | ah |
| 23:59.55 | NeoTron_ | then I dunno |
