| 00:01.46 | Cedron | dRaco, Ty! |
| 00:03.08 | CIA-44 | 03kurax * r77614 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (6 files): AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Locales update |
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| 00:38.03 | moeymoejoe | can anyone answer a question about sct use? |
| 00:40.09 | Zyndrome | *a voice is heard from the darkness* |
| 00:40.11 | Zyndrome | Proceed. |
| 00:42.06 | Funkeh` | ~asktoask |
| 00:42.07 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 00:43.19 | moeymoejoe | in sct, how can i disable the low mana warning, or change the too-loud, grating sound? |
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| 00:49.32 | moeymoejoe | i looked at localization.lua in sctoptions, but sct seems to be dropping/ignoring some of those checkboxes |
| 00:49.51 | Arrowmaster | its there |
| 00:49.55 | Arrowmaster | look harder |
| 00:49.57 | nocts | Looking for a mod, Ace or not, that tracks player kills. Side functionality like sound on mouseover for KoS list i optional. |
| 00:50.47 | mykx | nocts I believe there's a fubar plugin that tracks player kills no idea about the KoS crap |
| 00:50.55 | mykx | files.wowace.com have a search through the list |
| 00:51.27 | nocts | Incomplete functionality, not nearly enough summary on each wowace file. |
| 00:52.18 | moeymoejoe | i dont see it canyou tell me where? |
| 00:52.58 | mykx | possibly FuBar_HonorFu |
| 00:52.59 | mykx | brb raid |
| 00:53.51 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:54.00 | Arrowmaster | honorfu doesnt work |
| 00:54.12 | mykx | ah I havent used fubar in a long ass time sorry then |
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| 00:58.02 | moeymoejoe | arrowmaster can you tell me how to set that option? |
| 00:58.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:58.31 | Arrowmaster | since i dont know where it is, i havent used sct in a long time but i know its there |
| 00:58.46 | moeymoejoe | its not displaying it correctly |
| 00:59.29 | moeymoejoe | "/sct menu" displays 22 options under events, in the options lua there should be 24 displayed |
| 01:00.04 | moeymoejoe | SCT.LOCALS.OPTION_EVENT11 = {name = "Low HP", tooltipText = "Enables or Disables showing when you have low health"}; |
| 01:00.06 | moeymoejoe | SCT.LOCALS.OPTION_EVENT12 = {name = "Low Mana", tooltipText = "Enables or Disables showing when you have low mana"}; |
| 01:00.09 | moeymoejoe | those 2 are being ignored |
| 01:01.17 | Arrowmaster | look in different sections |
| 01:01.47 | moeymoejoe | did not there |
| 01:01.48 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77615 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0.lua: |
| 01:01.48 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 01:01.48 | CIA-44 | - Fix for OnUpdate not passing on the elapsed |
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| 01:02.20 | Ellipsis | so um, did alar change his name to lordfarlander, or what? |
| 01:02.52 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:05.01 | ckknight | anybody else get ...terface\AddOns\Threat-2.0\Threat-2.0\ThreatUtils.lua line 174: |
| 01:05.01 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.55 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77616 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 01:06.55 | CIA-44 | MiniPet: |
| 01:06.55 | CIA-44 | - Use GetRealZoneText |
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| 01:13.54 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: no.... |
| 01:14.04 | ckknight | why the hell am I getting it? |
| 01:14.16 | Arrowmaster | i blame one of your party members |
| 01:14.34 | Ellipsis | my money's on the gnome |
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| 01:22.02 | Funkeh` | ~framexml |
| 01:22.03 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
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| 01:33.55 | RaydenUni | holy shit |
| 01:34.04 | RaydenUni | this feral druid 2pc t4 bonus is awesome |
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| 01:57.55 | Diao | hmm |
| 01:57.57 | Diao | when killing archimonde |
| 01:58.10 | Diao | is everyone supposed to stand behind him |
| 01:58.12 | Diao | except the tank? |
| 01:58.49 | breser | There's no reason you have to stand behind him. |
| 01:58.53 | breser | Depends upon what setup you're using. |
| 01:58.56 | Diao | well |
| 01:59.03 | Diao | doomfires are pathing through archimonde |
| 01:59.05 | Diao | and hitting melee |
| 01:59.11 | Diao | when we have people spread out all around |
| 01:59.41 | breser | Doesn't matter how you position, that'll happen sometimes. Your melee needs to pay attention. |
| 02:00.03 | Diao | it's pathing through me (MT) sometimes |
| 02:00.06 | Diao | and kills me before i can even move |
| 02:00.18 | Diao | like i'll take a couple hits and doomfire will path through |
| 02:00.31 | mykx | Diao: we usually split into 4 groups N S E W of him |
| 02:00.43 | breser | We do the same thing, make a box around him. |
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| 02:00.53 | breser | One group in each corner. |
| 02:00.57 | Diao | healers and decursers for each group? |
| 02:01.02 | breser | Yes. |
| 02:01.04 | mykx | pretty much yeah |
| 02:01.07 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:01.08 | Diao | ok |
| 02:01.08 | mykx | and a shaman if possible |
| 02:01.14 | Diao | we don't have that many shaman |
| 02:01.15 | Diao | unfortunately |
| 02:01.17 | mykx | just put all your terrible kids in with a tremor totem |
| 02:01.21 | mykx | and your good players without one |
| 02:01.30 | Diao | our only shaman is with the rogues for wf lol |
| 02:01.37 | mykx | not worth it imo |
| 02:01.56 | mykx | survival > dps on that fight |
| 02:02.42 | Diao | well they need tremor too? |
| 02:02.47 | Diao | for being close to where doomfires spawn |
| 02:04.21 | mykx | I dunno usually our MT moves archi around based on doomfires |
| 02:04.33 | mykx | so melee actually have it a lot easier than casters on that fight |
| 02:05.13 | mykx | but yeah try and get more shammy if you're having people dying to fires and whatnot |
| 02:05.15 | mykx | it helps a ton |
| 02:09.59 | Arrowmaster | doomfires are random |
| 02:11.19 | Dranor | yes, and sometimes randomness can make you run arround archimonde doing nothing but trying to avoid those ugly doomfires |
| 02:16.56 | moeymoejoe | anyone knwo how to disable/change the low mana/health messages? |
| 02:17.02 | moeymoejoe | in sct |
| 02:20.45 | RaydenUni | what's the probability to proc 5 primal mights if you are specialized? |
| 02:20.55 | RaydenUni | wowwiki says 1% but i just did the math and it's 0.05% |
| 02:21.11 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77617 10StatBlocks_TimeInFight/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 02:21.11 | CIA-44 | StatBlocks_TimeInFight: re-wrote |
| 02:21.11 | CIA-44 | - Now only shows your combat time (ticking) and stops showing your previous time |
| 02:21.11 | CIA-44 | - Mouseover to show longest recorded fight |
| 02:22.43 | Pkekyo| | I love how some people think they have to write 'this is posed, and not real' on a photo that supposedly depicts the 3rd american civil war in the year 2024 :p |
| 02:23.26 | Funkeh` | i thought it was the world war then |
| 02:23.36 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
| 02:23.52 | Funkeh` | 2024 boyz lets get this war started |
| 02:24.08 | Pkekyo| | oh fuck me sideways |
| 02:24.12 | Pkekyo| | it's 4.30am |
| 02:24.20 | Pkekyo| | gotta be up in 3.5hrs |
| 02:24.26 | Pkekyo| | I'm off |
| 02:24.26 | Pkekyo| | g'nite ladies |
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| 02:28.41 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77618 10StatBlocks_TimeInFight/StatBlocks_TimeInFight.lua: StatBlocks_TimeInFight: change config layout |
| 02:31.19 | RaydenUni | the paladin, rogue, shaman t4 helm dropped off prince |
| 02:31.23 | RaydenUni | guess which 3 classes we don't have with us |
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| 02:33.59 | Codayus | Am I the only one who reads the name of StatBlocks_TimeinFight as TimeInFlight, every time? |
| 02:33.59 | RaydenUni | so i won the item |
| 02:34.11 | Codayus | It confuses me. :-( |
| 02:34.24 | Funkeh` | It -is- TimeInFlight |
| 02:34.29 | Funkeh` | everything else is just an ilusion |
| 02:35.42 | Funkeh` | hmm bored |
| 02:35.49 | Funkeh` | maybe time to rewrite freeme |
| 02:36.10 | Codayus | Hm, wouldn't actually be a bad statblock. Display flight length for gryphon flights... |
| 02:36.32 | Funkeh` | you already get mods that do that better |
| 02:36.41 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 02:36.41 | Funkeh` | with fancy bars and stuff |
| 02:37.11 | Codayus | Pft, like that ever stops anyone... |
| 02:39.54 | Funkeh` | well if one ever pops up, I won't be the author, trust me |
| 02:40.50 | Codayus | I'm almost tempted just so sometimes I'll be right when I think I see an addon called TimeInFlight... |
| 02:42.29 | Funkeh` | If it helps you learn Lua and it's the only idea you have then go ahead, I won't use it though ;p |
| 02:45.57 | Codayus | I'm only *almost* tempted. :-) |
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| 03:18.01 | Wraithan1 | Bartender4 at a RC stage or should I stick with Bartender3? |
| 03:18.14 | Arrowmaster | its released |
| 03:18.16 | Wraithan1 | Always hard to tell when there are 2 versions of something up |
| 03:18.32 | Wraithan1 | Ah ok, Bartender4 it is, thanks Arrowmaster |
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| 03:29.02 | Funkeh` | done |
| 03:29.04 | Wraithan1 | Maybe impossible, but is there a that could make my shocks glow a different color if I am 'Focused |
| 03:29.06 | Wraithan1 | ' |
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| 03:31.10 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77619 10FreeMe/ (FreeMe.lua FreeMe.toc): |
| 03:31.10 | CIA-44 | FreeMe: v4.0 |
| 03:31.10 | CIA-44 | - Now works with all buffs, type /freeme spellid to add or remove the specific buff you want to be automatically removed. Comes with salvation and nether protection already added. |
| 03:31.39 | Funkeh` | hmm bored again |
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| 03:31.54 | Funkeh` | guess i should make a thread |
| 03:33.41 | Wraithan1 | Anyone ever heard of anything like that, I know it was possible back in the pre-2.0 days |
| 03:41.15 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77620 10FreeMe/FreeMe.toc: FreeMe: toc fix |
| 03:41.19 | Yssaril | what do you mean by focused? Wraithan1? |
| 03:41.48 | Wraithan1 | Focused is a buff, like clearcasting |
| 03:42.05 | Wraithan1 | enhance shamans get it when they melee crit |
| 03:42.50 | Yssaril | should be possible since your not doing anything and simply displaying that you are focused |
| 03:43.39 | Wraithan1 | yeah, it would basically be like how buttons turn red when you are OOR |
| 03:48.07 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77621 10BigWigs_Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs_Naxxramas: add some icon |
| 03:48.17 | DARKGuy | Damn, I'm confused :( |
| 03:48.37 | DARKGuy | I need to make a C++ function that converts a 0-255 value to 0.0f-1.0f for my OpenGL engine :( |
| 03:49.00 | DARKGuy | Any ideas? xD, I'm dumb tonight ): and I know it isn't WoW but please xD |
| 03:49.27 | FryGuy | um |
| 03:49.33 | breser | x/255 |
| 03:49.37 | FryGuy | int x = Math.Random(0, 255); |
| 03:49.44 | RaydenUni | um |
| 03:49.44 | FryGuy | double a = x / 255.0f; |
| 03:49.56 | RaydenUni | so you need to normalize 0-255 |
| 03:49.57 | FryGuy | er float i guess |
| 03:50.01 | Aiiane | for good measure, put a (float)x |
| 03:50.01 | RaydenUni | but yeah |
| 03:50.04 | RaydenUni | what fry said |
| 03:50.27 | FryGuy | you really needed to ask that? :/ |
| 03:50.28 | Aiiane | or for normalization, just divide by 256 |
| 03:50.30 | DARKGuy | o.O!... why 255.0f, I never thought of that before |
| 03:50.47 | DARKGuy | FryGuy: yeah, I fail |
| 03:50.51 | DARKGuy | <<; |
| 03:50.58 | FryGuy | .0f is so it casts to float |
| 03:51.12 | FryGuy | or (float)x / 255; |
| 03:51.18 | FryGuy | either way do the same thing |
| 03:51.26 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77622 10RBM_Gruuls/ (Gruul.lua HighKing.lua): RBM_Gruuls: add koKR locale |
| 03:51.51 | DARKGuy | heeey that works, I was actually going the way into making a function to do a rule of three x_x |
| 03:52.16 | DARKGuy | dividing anything by 255 does the job oO! |
| 03:52.18 | DARKGuy | interesting |
| 03:52.25 | DARKGuy | kinda sucks at math sometimes |
| 03:52.28 | DARKGuy | thanks XD!! ^_^ |
| 03:52.45 | FryGuy | well if you divide an int by 255, it'll be always 0 or 1 |
| 03:53.43 | DARKGuy | o.o I see |
| 03:58.58 | Wraithan1 | Yssaril: any idea what addon, ace or not, that would let me do that? |
| 03:59.24 | Yssaril | Wraithan1: no idea sry |
| 04:09.49 | CIA-44 | 037destiny * r77623 10RBM_Hyjal/ (5 files): RBM_Hyjal: add koKR locale |
| 04:13.51 | RaydenUni | 3.5 hours to clear kara |
| 04:13.53 | RaydenUni | how hard? |
| 04:14.35 | Wraithan1 | Flexbar2 get dropped? |
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| 04:20.49 | Wraithan1 | Is there any scriptable bar managers now a days or did Bliz kill all of that? |
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| 04:26.03 | Groktar | wow, third ninjapull of muru tonight |
| 04:26.10 | Groktar | this is twinslike |
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| 04:29.58 | Ackis | 13% on KJ |
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| 04:33.59 | Funkeh` | drink more pots |
| 04:34.13 | nocts | Confused: function MyAddOn_OnEvent(MyAddOnFrame, BATTLEFIELDS_SHOW) |
| 04:34.21 | nocts | The first variable is MyAddOnFrame |
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| 04:34.29 | nocts | That's just passing the frame name... or what? |
| 04:36.06 | Funkeh` | MyAddOn_OnEvent(this, event) |
| 04:36.10 | Funkeh` | so yes |
| 04:36.49 | nocts | Why does it still work even if I've registered the frame as a different name? |
| 04:37.00 | nocts | local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "adifferentname"); |
| 04:37.44 | Funkeh` | you can't rename frames |
| 04:37.48 | nocts | O.o |
| 04:38.02 | nocts | I guess I don't understand what it's doing. |
| 04:38.04 | breser | MyAddOnFrame is a parameter. |
| 04:38.07 | nocts | Right |
| 04:38.09 | Funkeh` | it will pass the name of the specific frame the event is registered to |
| 04:38.16 | nocts | got it |
| 04:38.18 | breser | It's the value of this or self that's being passed to it. |
| 04:38.34 | nocts | Even if the frame is being defined in local below it? |
| 04:39.08 | Funkeh` | can you pastey your code |
| 04:39.10 | nocts | I don't understand why it passes an invalid name when local def.... unless the local after it is a moot point because I've already named it MyAddOnFrame? |
| 04:39.36 | nocts | http://pastey.net/90234 |
| 04:40.01 | nocts | If I change the MyAddOnFrame in OnEvent, is that creating the frame MyAddOnFrame before local is defining it? |
| 04:40.04 | nocts | :X |
| 04:40.58 | Funkeh` | hold on |
| 04:41.01 | RaydenUni | man |
| 04:41.02 | Funkeh` | wha'ts the problem? |
| 04:41.09 | RaydenUni | all of the trinkets i want are hard to get |
| 04:41.23 | nocts | I don't understand why if I change the name of the frame being passed in OnEvent, why it still works when it can be defined differently in loccal |
| 04:41.39 | nocts | It's more a technical "why" than "lua isn't working" |
| 04:42.50 | Funkeh` | the name of the local doesn't matter |
| 04:43.11 | Funkeh` | you could call it omglol and the frame name will still get passed |
| 04:43.17 | Funkeh` | i.e. "MyAddonFrame" |
| 04:43.59 | nocts | Doesn't sound right, but okay lol |
| 04:44.11 | nocts | What's the point of naming the frame in local if you can pass it as -anything- in OnEvent? |
| 04:44.11 | Funkeh` | is this all your addon is doing? |
| 04:44.20 | nocts | For now |
| 04:44.34 | Funkeh` | i don't understand what you're talking about |
| 04:44.36 | Funkeh` | but anyway |
| 04:44.50 | nocts | Lemme see if I can explain my question |
| 04:44.59 | nocts | local frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "BGQueuecheck"); |
| 04:45.16 | nocts | frame is defined as type Frame with title BGQueuecheck, correct? |
| 04:45.49 | Funkeh` | a frame is created with that name, yes |
| 04:45.58 | nocts | function MyAddOn_OnEvent(self, BATTLEFIELDS_SHOW) |
| 04:46.23 | nocts | For the OnEvent, pass the frame "self" forevent BATTLEFIELDS_SHOW |
| 04:46.44 | Funkeh` | you want "local function MyAddOn_OnEvent(self, event)" |
| 04:46.51 | nocts | I'm not understanding why I can use anything for the frame name on OnEvent? |
| 04:47.10 | nocts | Is it creating two frames if I use a completely different frame name in OnEvent? |
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| 04:47.52 | Funkeh` | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function) |
| 04:48.09 | Funkeh` | there's no extra frames being created |
| 04:48.18 | Funkeh` | you're using the frame you just made by doing frame: |
| 04:48.32 | Funkeh` | you can simplify it by doing http://pastey.net/90235 |
| 04:48.59 | nocts | Hm. |
| 04:49.05 | nocts | Still don't understand. But that works. |
| 04:50.34 | chiper | lifebloom threat falls on the healed target, not the healer, right? |
| 04:51.01 | Funkeh` | but if you want lose of events you probably want somrthing like http://pastey.net/90237 |
| 04:51.04 | Funkeh` | nocts, |
| 04:51.12 | Funkeh` | lose = lots |
| 04:52.26 | nocts | http://pastey.net/90238 |
| 04:52.28 | nocts | Final product |
| 04:52.52 | Funkeh` | don't name the arg battlefields |
| 04:52.54 | Funkeh` | call it event |
| 04:52.55 | nocts | Didn't think I'd have problems with it, just don't fully understand how frames work yet, especially with things like self and OnEvent |
| 04:53.11 | Funkeh` | (self, event) |
| 04:53.24 | nocts | Any particular reason? |
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| 04:53.29 | nocts | (coming from rusty C programming) |
| 04:53.46 | Funkeh` | this has nothing to do with lua |
| 04:53.51 | Funkeh` | this is coding in genral |
| 04:53.57 | Funkeh` | you should know that |
| 04:54.19 | nocts | rusty :P |
| 04:54.22 | Funkeh` | there can be many different events you don't call yor event arg something in specific |
| 04:55.01 | Funkeh` | and ; is useless fyi |
| 04:55.15 | nocts | You can't blame me for that habit |
| 04:55.19 | Funkeh` | no |
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| 05:35.22 | Groktar | well, we got him to 16% on our best try |
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| 05:52.27 | Wraithan1 | cncfanatics: Heya, you are the flexbar2 author right? Is development halted on that, there have been no updates from you since April |
| 05:52.43 | cncfanatics | Wraithan1: FlexBar3 is on the works |
| 05:52.48 | Wraithan1 | oh |
| 05:52.50 | Wraithan1 | I see |
| 05:53.02 | cncfanatics | flexbar2 is pretty much ready |
| 05:53.07 | cncfanatics | I don't touch it except for bugfixes |
| 05:53.51 | Wraithan1 | Ah, well the versions I can find are all 90+ days old, figured at least a version update would have eben done if they worked in live |
| 05:54.11 | cncfanatics | they work, don't worry |
| 05:54.13 | Fisker- | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:54.20 | cncfanatics | http://files.wowace.com/FlexBar2/FlexBar2.zip |
| 05:54.27 | Groktar | eats Fisker-'s children |
| 05:54.35 | cncfanatics | eats Fisker- |
| 05:54.36 | Fisker- | good job |
| 05:55.02 | cncfanatics | be silent Fisker-, you're in my stomach now ! |
| 05:55.04 | Wraithan1 | cncfanatics: ah ok, thank you, I guess I assumed wrong |
| 05:55.19 | Fisker- | why should i be silent cncfanatics? |
| 05:55.22 | Wraithan1 | cncfanatics: Looking forward to FB3, good luck to you |
| 05:55.27 | cncfanatics | ty :) |
| 05:55.45 | Groktar | but ya, our main problem on mu'ru was tank deaths |
| 05:55.47 | Groktar | :( |
| 05:56.01 | Funkeh` | shit tanks |
| 05:56.15 | Fisker- | just like your mother and what not |
| 05:56.23 | Groktar | gasps at Fisker |
| 05:56.52 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, I din't think you realize how gay you sound saying mother instead of mum |
| 05:56.54 | Silviu- | Funkeh` wanted to report that FreeMe won`t work so good with nether protection on Twins :P I lost aggro as soon as i become imune :) |
| 05:57.08 | Silviu- | And then had to reskill :) |
| 05:57.13 | Groktar | the weird part was that people started ninja pulling mu'ru tonight |
| 05:57.17 | Groktar | never been a problem before |
| 05:57.22 | Groktar | but it happened 4 times tonight... |
| 05:58.15 | Funkeh` | Silviu-, depends on how lucky you are |
| 05:58.27 | Funkeh` | if it procs whilst they are casting you shouldn't |
| 05:58.36 | Funkeh` | and it cancels before the cast is over etc |
| 05:58.43 | Silviu- | Hehe true |
| 05:58.44 | Silviu- | :P |
| 05:59.00 | Silviu- | But my raid did not accept the "luck" factor and i had to reskill hehe |
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| 05:59.19 | Funkeh` | hehe |
| 06:00.29 | Fisker- | fucking win |
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| 06:21.27 | Ackis | wow Funkeh` recode game mechanics pls :P |
| 06:21.37 | Ackis | ps: didn't get KJ down to less than 13% |
| 06:21.47 | Ackis | probably going to be gkicked here in about an hour or so |
| 06:21.57 | Funkeh` | ? |
| 06:22.55 | Ackis | guild leader has been a super douche to my gf and it's been getting worse and worse over the past 4-5 months, made a post calling him out tonight |
| 06:26.57 | cncfanatics | why has he ? :s |
| 06:27.00 | cncfanatics | thats like sillyu |
| 06:27.03 | cncfanatics | silly* even |
| 06:27.25 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 06:27.31 | Funkeh` | i'd be well out of that guild |
| 06:27.55 | cncfanatics | same |
| 06:28.00 | cncfanatics | I'd have /gquitted |
| 06:29.01 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 06:29.18 | Funkeh` | we made so much drama in our old guild for not getting in the same karazhan groups |
| 06:29.29 | Funkeh` | we only joined to play together so meh |
| 06:29.55 | Funkeh` | grull was a different story though |
| 06:30.02 | Funkeh` | laughing at everyone |
| 06:30.27 | Funkeh` | it's fun coming from a t6 raiding guilds to try gruul and pretend you're a nub |
| 06:31.04 | Funkeh` | you can't go 5 sec without laughing at things peope do and say |
| 06:31.14 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 06:31.31 | cncfanatics | I haven't raided much in posttbc :( in a rerollers guild now and I'll see how it goes |
| 06:31.31 | Funkeh` | i got someone to explain to me how to play rogue once |
| 06:31.34 | Ackis | last time I did gruul, I got a skull on my head and everyone ran to me |
| 06:31.35 | Funkeh` | cheered me up |
| 06:31.44 | Ackis | then I got brezzed and the same thing happened lol |
| 06:32.01 | Funkeh` | yeah i quit end game back in january to spent more time with her |
| 06:32.16 | Funkeh` | but we wanted to try out casual raiding |
| 06:32.32 | Funkeh` | 1/2/3 times a week |
| 06:32.52 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 06:33.03 | Funkeh` | but the guild disbanded and we made new characters |
| 06:33.06 | Funkeh` | for the 3rd time |
| 06:33.14 | cncfanatics | you're both US right ? |
| 06:33.21 | Funkeh` | eu |
| 06:33.34 | cncfanatics | server ? |
| 06:33.43 | Funkeh` | arathor |
| 06:33.53 | Ackis | i'm on illidan |
| 06:34.28 | cncfanatics | imo everyone should reroll on maggy :D |
| 06:37.02 | Funkeh` | being on npcs, unless dead, isn't my idea of a good time, being behind them, as a rogue. thats a whole different ball game |
| 06:37.33 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 06:37.46 | cncfanatics | used to play a rogue |
| 06:37.49 | cncfanatics | rerolling resto druid now |
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| 06:38.06 | sedai| | whats a better mod than bongos? |
| 06:38.15 | sedai| | i need a new action bar |
| 06:38.16 | cncfanatics | sedai|: define "better" |
| 06:38.23 | durcyn | there's nothing wrong with bongos |
| 06:38.23 | cncfanatics | there's bartender |
| 06:38.27 | cncfanatics | or flexbar |
| 06:38.37 | sedai| | my bongos bugged out on my druid |
| 06:39.00 | cncfanatics | then why not fill a bug report ? :p |
| 06:39.11 | sedai| | too late i deleted it |
| 06:39.41 | cncfanatics | if you want something a bit like bongos, try bartender |
| 06:39.51 | Funkeh` | bongos has been long since replaced by bongos 2 and 3 |
| 06:40.11 | cncfanatics | I'm assuming he ment bongos3 |
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| 06:40.47 | Funkeh` | this is wowace, never assume |
| 06:41.10 | sedai| | i think i had bongos 2 |
| 06:41.27 | Funkeh` | get 3 |
| 06:42.51 | sedai| | i dont see it in the list of actionbar mods in the wowaceupdater |
| 06:43.08 | Funkeh` | so? |
| 06:43.15 | Funkeh` | wowinterface.com |
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| 06:44.31 | sedai| | how about dominos? |
| 06:44.40 | sedai| | anyone tried that? |
| 06:45.34 | sedai| | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9085-Dominos.html |
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| 06:46.19 | sedai| | wowinterfaces' new website is nice |
| 06:46.37 | sedai| | its completely changed since i last visited, been a long time |
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| 06:51.31 | CIA-44 | 03apoco * r77624 10RBM/ (Config.lua CooldownWatch/CooldownWatch.lua Core.lua): RBM: CooldownWatch: Fix: Error with enabling tracking of interrupts. |
| 06:52.22 | Elkano | reading over the info from WWI ^^ why did I know that we would get a Dire Cat form? ^^ |
| 06:53.59 | Neya | You know Blizzard are getting low on new ideas for druids ;) |
| 06:54.43 | Elkano | I wonder if Windfury will only work for bears or also for cats |
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| 06:55.24 | Neya | if it is a buff as stated it should work for both, they are using the same mechanics so would be odd if both didn't benefit from the same buff. |
| 06:55.30 | Elkano | but Blizzard has proven to be evil again... most of the stuff makes you cry "GIEV NOW PLX!" |
| 06:56.09 | Elkano | yeah, but the text on mmo-champion says: "Windfury won't be a weapon enchant anymore and will be changed to a buff. You will be able to use it in bear form or with poison." |
| 06:56.20 | Neya | Much of those changes should've been made in the first year of wow or so. |
| 06:56.47 | Neya | But then, Blizzard is Blizzard. |
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| 07:26.53 | Neya | Right... How come that Blizzard have to try to outdo themselves in crashing my broswer on every site they make? :S |
| 07:30.19 | Bruners | Neya: and what browser are you using ? |
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| 07:31.53 | Neya | Firefox, tried with Opera and IE7 too, same results. |
| 07:32.15 | Bruners | and what OS ? |
| 07:32.47 | Neya | Vista. But my older computer has the same issue with IE6 and XP. |
| 07:33.11 | Bruners | thats just vista being crap |
| 07:34.00 | Bruners | oh hi your program stopped responding, lets close it before it recovers |
| 07:34.44 | Neya | hehe, actually mine doesn't really do that anymore, I have to force it off manually. |
| 07:35.23 | Neya | and that can be hard when the wrong parts of the os stops responding... |
| 07:35.58 | Silviu- | Neya tell me a site :) |
| 07:36.15 | Silviu- | That u crash on |
| 07:36.35 | Kalroth | Armory? |
| 07:36.40 | Neya | Diablo3, wow-armory, wow-us (only seldom on that one). |
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| 07:38.05 | Neya | well, starcraft2 also killed my broswer I noticed now. |
| 07:38.21 | Silviu- | hmm works with no problems |
| 07:38.31 | Silviu- | Tryed with IE now on Vista 64 sp1 |
| 07:38.57 | Kalroth | The problem isn't the webpage itself |
| 07:39.06 | Kalroth | It's their ajax and their shitty webservers |
| 07:39.31 | Kalroth | Since their servers are so overloaded they often just drop ajax'ed connections without a notice |
| 07:39.35 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 07:39.36 | Neya | IE works more ofthen, but yea, it also locks down. |
| 07:39.45 | Fisker- | it doesn't matter what browser really |
| 07:39.52 | Fisker- | as long as it supports XML |
| 07:39.59 | Neya | that explains it then. |
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| 07:40.10 | Kalroth | So when you load a page, you create maybe 10-15 ajax connections, where only half works |
| 07:40.20 | Fisker- | The site is so deeply nested in XML that they're downloading XML from all over the place |
| 07:40.28 | Kalroth | And the other half are stuck in some sort of crap coded javascript loop, waiting to finish |
| 07:40.35 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 07:41.47 | Fisker- | As i've previously said, it won't be long until Blizzard bundles system requirements with their game "Minimum Requirements" and of course "Recommended (Also minimum for viewing our shitty websites)" |
| 07:41.57 | Neya | haha |
| 07:43.07 | Silviu- | managed to crash it after trying to load sc2 :) |
| 07:43.20 | Silviu- | But on firefox 3 runs with no problems odd |
| 07:43.21 | Silviu- | :) |
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| 07:46.01 | Kalroth | FF3 got improved ajax handling, including a lot better checks on timeouts and so on |
| 07:49.11 | Megalon | yea, got the same with firefox2 on armory every so often |
| 07:49.29 | Fisker- | It's Fx |
| 07:51.28 | Megalon | then i used the tcpview tool from sysinternals to kill firefox' connections, but i would so prefer a way to set low timeout values for ajax requests :< |
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| 07:52.47 | Arrowmaster | this is why AJAX is evil |
| 07:52.55 | Arrowmaster | most people use it completely wrong |
| 07:53.31 | Arrowmaster | using it to pull in hidden content like comments when you click for this = good |
| 07:53.45 | Megalon | using it to pull whole pages = not so good :/ |
| 07:53.48 | Arrowmaster | using it to pull in the rest of the page with 20+ requests on load = bad |
| 07:54.33 | Megalon | yea, ajax rocks for item tooltips on pages |
| 07:54.53 | Arrowmaster | using it to pull in the tooltip for 1 of maybe 20 items that can be moused over on the page instead of loading them all anyway at the start = bad |
| 07:55.01 | Arrowmaster | hate the armory |
| 07:55.43 | Aiiane_ | i typically use armorylite unless its messing up |
| 07:55.51 | Aiiane_ | because official armory is such a pain |
| 07:55.57 | Arrowmaster | if they absolutely had to then thats where i would have prefered that they loaded all the tooltips via ajax on page load |
| 07:56.02 | Arrowmaster | waiting for mouseover blows |
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| 07:56.34 | Arrowmaster | especially when i can mouseover one item then another quickly and get the tooltip for the first item even though im mousing over the second item |
| 07:56.39 | Arrowmaster | thats just stupid |
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| 08:21.28 | sedai| | i like to talk to the people who developed armory |
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| 08:54.39 | CIA-44 | NBuffBars: |
| 08:54.39 | CIA-44 | - Remove Babble-Class; use Rock's categories for class name localisation |
| 08:54.39 | CIA-44 | - Better frame position saving, using GetPoint and SetPoint arguments |
| 08:54.39 | CIA-44 | - Update the versioning, ermm, version |
| 08:54.40 | CIA-44 | - Many more changes to come... this addon is being resurrected, as I've found out people actually use it |
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| 10:20.23 | ktwo | hi im looking for an addon which improves the questlog window.. you know one? (above all the feature to show more quests at once in one window) |
| 10:20.51 | profalbert | ktwo: tried beql? |
| 10:20.57 | phyber | DoubleWide is a nice improvement to the QuestLog window. |
| 10:21.31 | ktwo | ya, beql worked but it has also too much features and a tracker which seemed to be disabled, ill try doublewide |
| 10:21.31 | Zyndrome | DoubleWide ftw |
| 10:22.24 | _SunTsu | ktwo: QuestGuru |
| 10:23.12 | Kuosi | yes doublewide is aweysome |
| 10:23.39 | ktwo | thx, installed DoubleWide does exactly what i want without being bloated |
| 10:27.19 | odt | what does it do then? |
| 10:27.49 | Arrowmaster | makes the questlog twice as wide |
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| 10:31.37 | Lukian | Can I make an omen feature request? |
| 10:31.44 | Lukian | the ability to target mobs in AOE mode, possible? |
| 10:32.09 | Kuosi | odt: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw7088.jpg |
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| 10:32.30 | Nargiddley | Lukian, not possible |
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| 10:33.01 | Lukian | proximo does it :o |
| 10:33.23 | vithos | proximo's frames aren't sorted during combat |
| 10:33.45 | Lukian | ah true |
| 10:33.47 | vithos | nor are the clickable parts created during combat |
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| 10:36.55 | vithos | plus players have (usually) unique names |
| 10:37.17 | vithos | even if you could create the frames in combat, you can't target by UnitGUID |
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| 10:38.03 | Arrowmaster | proximo's arent real unitframes, theyre just actionbuttons with macro text of '/target name' set on them |
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| 11:32.05 | Pkekyo| | I want my remaining parts to be pickled in jars, and hidden around my house for my relatives/loved ones/future house owners to find. I will live on in the form of a grotesque easter egg hunt. |
| 11:32.11 | Pkekyo| | wrong channel :/ |
| 11:37.21 | phyber | Pkekyo|: good stuff. :) |
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| 11:43.04 | winkiller | had a very annoying thing yesterday. respecced my druid to resto and HSed to shatt in tree form. ever since I can't login unless I disable all my addons. anyone ever had something remotely similar? :P haven't tried which addon as of now |
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| 11:45.58 | profalbert | winkiller: maybe some bar-mod? |
| 11:46.42 | winkiller | bartender3, maybe. but I respecced, put my new skills on the bar, ran around happily in Bluff as a tree. and in shatt I get kicked instantly :P |
| 11:47.06 | Josh_Borke | maybe you should try moving outside of shatt then enabling addons |
| 11:47.21 | winkiller | yep, will do. had no time as I was past bedtime already |
| 11:47.32 | winkiller | the game seems to tell me: "stay feral" though |
| 11:47.40 | jy_ | enable your addons one by one ? |
| 11:47.43 | sb | http://www.flickr.com/photos/barelyfitz/17874114/in/photostream/ |
| 11:48.00 | winkiller | jy_: as I said, didn't have time for the normal routine |
| 11:48.14 | winkiller | lol sb |
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| 12:26.52 | sb | hmpf - i think i have to jailbreak my iphone now :/ |
| 12:26.58 | sb | this sucks |
| 12:27.27 | sb | i dont wanna do that... but i cant remove saved emails (imap sync), and its already 5gb :o |
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| 12:32.32 | winkiller | now that I noticed.. |
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| 13:14.02 | thul | hmm, is s2 honor now? |
| 13:14.07 | Kuosi | yup |
| 13:14.16 | thul | in SW if you're ally? |
| 13:14.23 | profalbert | yep |
| 13:15.01 | thul | what am I waiting for then :-D |
| 13:15.08 | thul | or, is it worth getting s2 over s1 really? :-P |
| 13:15.17 | thul | or should I just run heorics to get the new fists? |
| 13:19.18 | selckin | wait for wotlk |
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| 13:21.41 | thul | when that comes, I'll just level my ass off:P |
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| 13:46.35 | Vulcanus | CIA is lagging today :( ...wait, CIA's gone |
| 13:49.34 | thul | 9. Are you sure sword spec works like you described in the PvE DPS article? Because Recount says... |
| 13:49.38 | thul | Recount is wrong, and I've posted in the addon's thread on WoWAce to try to get it fixed, but the author didn't seem too keen on it. Either way, the fact of the matter is that sword spec behaves as I have posted as recently as May 29, 2008 (patch 2.4.2). Proof is available in this post. |
| 13:49.47 | thul | http://elitistjerks.com/764238-post48.html |
| 13:52.13 | nevcairiel | recount has alot more broken pieces then that =P |
| 13:53.06 | thul | hehe |
| 13:53.07 | thul | ok:P |
| 13:53.11 | thul | Just wanted to mention it |
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| 13:55.02 | Vulcanus | is there a better damage meter that will track stats through logout then? Violation doesn't have the advanced spell usage function I find myself using (Mage CL, helpful for dissecting newcomers) |
| 13:58.14 | Gagorian | You dissect newcomers? |
| 13:58.22 | Gagorian | harsh |
| 13:59.22 | EvilJohn | that sounds more like a job for WWS |
| 13:59.28 | EvilJohn | rather than a damage meter |
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| 14:00.07 | Fisker- | it's the Kaelten |
| 14:00.09 | Fisker- | flee |
| 14:01.36 | thul | http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9694/wowscrnshot062208101836yw7.jpg <- i kind of like that |
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| 14:05.44 | Kaelten | :P |
| 14:07.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Was that log saying that the offhand sword proces mainhand attacks? |
| 14:07.10 | Fisker- | giev blizzard authenticator :( |
| 14:07.23 | VonhintenHOME` | log=post |
| 14:08.05 | VonhintenHOME` | forget it, I'm going to sleep |
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| 15:29.03 | Kazie | What number does Humanoid form have for druid? |
| 15:30.14 | _SunTsu | Kazie: What do you need it for? Stance check? |
| 15:30.32 | nevcairiel | humanoid is 0 |
| 15:30.33 | Zyndrome | while in Humanoid form , there is no stance active |
| 15:30.39 | nevcairiel | aka no stance |
| 15:30.49 | Zyndrome | example : /cast [nostance] Bear Form |
| 15:30.58 | nevcairiel | you can also use stance:0 |
| 15:31.18 | _SunTsu | and /cancelform for switching back |
| 15:32.19 | Kazie | so humanoid is 0.. and then it's just the order of the stancebar right? |
| 15:32.26 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 15:32.48 | Kazie | hmm |
| 15:32.49 | _SunTsu | Which makes it complicated when coming to tree and moonkin form ;) |
| 15:33.07 | Megalon | tree/moonkin are always [stance:5] |
| 15:33.17 | Megalon | swift flight is [stance:5/6] |
| 15:33.18 | Megalon | :/ |
| 15:33.19 | nevcairiel | not if the druid skipped the aquatic quest |
| 15:33.38 | Kazie | well.. i'm trying to make a macro command that will use bearform, and when IN bear form use enrage.. i tried with "/cast [form:1] Enrage:Bear Form" but that didn't work :s |
| 15:33.43 | Megalon | whoever skipped that quest, should just go and diaf! |
| 15:33.52 | _SunTsu | Kazie: it's stance:1 |
| 15:34.05 | nevcairiel | you would be surprised how many people comlain that their cat thingy is not working because their cat is 2 and not 3 |
| 15:34.18 | Megalon | Kazie: /cast Bearform /cast Enrage |
| 15:34.38 | Kazie | no megalon, i think you're misunderstanding me |
| 15:34.50 | _SunTsu | Megalon: That does not help if it should do other things in other forms ;) |
| 15:35.02 | Megalon | hm |
| 15:35.03 | Kazie | Like for catform this works: /cast [form:3] Prowl;Cat Form |
| 15:35.03 | Megalon | oh |
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| 15:35.27 | nevcairiel | ./cast [form:1] Enrage; Bear Form |
| 15:35.28 | Kazie | Then it will just stealth/unstealth after you are in catform, if you're not in catform the same button will put you in catform |
| 15:35.28 | Megalon | /cast [form:1]Enrage;Bear Form ;x |
| 15:35.29 | nevcairiel | this should work |
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| 15:35.37 | nevcairiel | in your cp you had a : instead of a ; |
| 15:35.44 | Kazie | oh it's a ; and not a : :D |
| 15:36.03 | nevcairiel | although you probably need Dire Bear Form there |
| 15:36.15 | nevcairiel | unless you are <40 |
| 15:36.22 | Kazie | atm. 26 :) |
| 15:36.32 | Kazie | I'm just trying to make it a little easier for switching fast and using stuff |
| 15:37.03 | _SunTsu | Wouldn't /cast [form:1] Enrage;Dire Bear Form;Bear Form work? |
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| 15:38.40 | Kazie | Well.. it's not really hard to Write in "Dire " :D |
| 15:38.47 | Kazie | once i hit lvl40 with my alt tho |
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| 15:48.10 | [Liquidor] | steev, ping |
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| 15:54.02 | Kazie | hmm.. i was wondering.. like MoTW and Thorns.. is it possible to make a macro that will cast both on the same target (like a cast sequence or something) and then reset that target after 10 min. or something? saying that it would cast thorns first |
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| 16:00.51 | profalbert | Kazie: I don't think that's possible in a macro. I'd suggest to get some buff-addon like ZOMGBuffs or so |
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| 16:02.52 | Kazie | will this "/castsequence [target=player] reset=10" reset a certain target ever 10 sec or minute? |
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| 16:03.27 | nevcairiel | reset is in seconds |
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| 16:04.32 | Kazie | so for 10 min i'd like have to use.. 600? |
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| 16:05.29 | Kazie | In theory ... could this do the job? "/castsequence [target=player] reset=600 Thorns, Mark of the Wild" |
| 16:05.42 | nevcairiel | depends what job you want it to do |
| 16:06.24 | Kazie | Cast thorns, then MoTW, and reset that spicific target in 10 min, since that's the duration of Thorns |
| 16:08.05 | KriLL3 | gimme a sec, I got a better one |
| 16:08.48 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.05 | KriLL3 | though you might want to remove omen |
| 16:09.53 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:10.30 | KriLL3 | is also nice, note that between ; and /cast [swim...] should be a new line, didn't want to get kicked for spamming |
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| 16:10.56 | durcyn | you actually don't need to do that, /use and /cast are the same thing. |
| 16:11.05 | KriLL3 | durcyn: well it works for me |
| 16:11.28 | KriLL3 | It's an adaption to the new macro stuff of an really old macro I did at 60 |
| 16:11.45 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.59 | durcyn | followed by /dismount |
| 16:12.14 | durcyn | right, but you don't need multiple use/cast lines, just stack your conditions on the same one |
| 16:12.32 | KriLL3 | durcyn: errm my macro is better than that |
| 16:12.35 | durcyn | try /cast <item> or /use <spell> some time and be Enlightened ;) |
| 16:12.49 | durcyn | no, your macro does the same thing in a worse way. |
| 16:12.53 | KriLL3 | and my macro is 187/225, I don't think you can stack that many conditions more |
| 16:13.01 | KriLL3 | durcyn: you forgot aquatic form |
| 16:13.07 | durcyn | i left it off on purpose, gy |
| 16:13.08 | durcyn | guy* |
| 16:13.17 | durcyn | anyway, you can figure out the rest |
| 16:13.24 | KriLL3 | so you need a second button for aquatic? pfft |
| 16:13.35 | durcyn | no, you don't. |
| 16:13.39 | durcyn | you're not listening to me. |
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| 16:15.39 | SunTsu | durcyn: Maybe that's because you are writing |
| 16:16.32 | SunTsu | .o0( SCNR ) |
| 16:19.17 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.20 | KriLL3 | more to your liking? |
| 16:19.58 | KriLL3 | is "(Shapeshift);" still needed btw? |
| 16:20.16 | selckin | tias |
| 16:20.20 | durcyn | only if it's in the spellbook name, and yes that's what i was getting at. |
| 16:20.43 | KriLL3 | it is |
| 16:23.34 | KriLL3 | was it a recent patch that changed cast & use to be the same? I made the original macro quite some time ago and I had to use 2 lines |
| 16:24.12 | durcyn | i believe it was a side effect of the 2.0 macro system revamp |
| 16:27.12 | KriLL3 | yeah I made the macro pre 2.0 |
| 16:27.42 | KriLL3 | just added the flightform bit to it, took me ages to figure out the noflyable. flyable part =P |
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| 16:29.45 | KriLL3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.47 | KriLL3 | even betteer |
| 16:29.54 | KriLL3 | doesn't try to do stuff indoors |
| 16:30.24 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Was thinking of that, wondered why you might try to mount up indoors |
| 16:30.27 | nevcairiel | there is a swimming condition? |
| 16:30.33 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: yes |
| 16:30.44 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: well it's no biggy, just gives you a red text |
| 16:30.58 | KriLL3 | you can't do any of it indoors anyway so it's not a problem |
| 16:31.24 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I've used it since the day I got aquaticform, and my char is from the night wow was launched |
| 16:31.36 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Well, yeah ;) I just had left away the [outdoors] from travel form, fpr brevity's sake ;) |
| 16:31.45 | SunTsu | s/fpr/for/ |
| 16:31.47 | nevcairiel | i just click the correct stance button on my druid, never wanted to replace it :p |
| 16:31.55 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: the macro is 223/225 now though... if you want a longer named mount in there you could remove the outdoors part |
| 16:31.59 | [Ammo] | that's funny because conditions were only added in 2.0 :p |
| 16:32.04 | [Ammo] | hardly a release |
| 16:32.17 | KriLL3 | [Ammo]: false |
| 16:32.26 | Funkeh` | anyone can download the new adobe schockwave for mozilla at a speed that doesn't make you pull your hair out? |
| 16:32.27 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I use 3 buttons, bear, cat, movement |
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| 16:32.33 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I just use GoGoMount ;) |
| 16:32.54 | KriLL3 | [Ammo]: or perhaps I stacked the commands in the right order to make them execute... that might have been how |
| 16:32.56 | nevcairiel | but ammo is right, before 2.0 you had to use lua in macros |
| 16:32.59 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: ? |
| 16:33.04 | Funkeh` | "4 hours remaining"... |
| 16:33.19 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: yeah I remember doing that |
| 16:33.25 | SunTsu | KriLL3: An addon that does all that for me, automatically chosing the right mount an such |
| 16:33.37 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: my macro does also... |
| 16:34.01 | KriLL3 | and it's spammable if some fool shaman is casting frost shock |
| 16:34.25 | Lukian | <KriLL3> SunTsu: the macro is 223/225 now though... if you want a longer named mount in there you could remove the outdoors part |
| 16:34.27 | SunTsu | KriLL3: So you don't have to touch it if you add another mount to your bag? |
| 16:34.29 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.39 | KriLL3 | Lukian: I don't have a clue how |
| 16:34.52 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: why would I want to add another mount? |
| 16:34.57 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: Shockwave_Installer_Slim.exe ? i got it with full speed |
| 16:35.02 | Lukian | go to wowhead.com look at the end of the url for your mount, that's the itemid :p |
| 16:35.04 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Get the itemid from wowhead and use it instead of the name |
| 16:35.04 | Funkeh` | yeah |
| 16:35.12 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 16:35.20 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, could you throw it up somewhere? |
| 16:35.30 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Because maybe you like mounts ;) I like to have more than one |
| 16:35.44 | KriLL3 | I got a ton, only ever use the [Reins of the Black War Tiger] and Swift flight though |
| 16:36.01 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: that link is slow for you? http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/shockwave/default/english/win95nt/latest/Shockwave_Installer_Slim.exe |
| 16:36.11 | KriLL3 | land mounts would be fun to mix up, but I don't want to use my dragon or flying machine, they got cast time |
| 16:36.22 | Lukian | I don't have room for a ton, I never handed my final netherwing quest in :p |
| 16:36.28 | Lukian | multiple gear sets ftl |
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| 16:36.39 | KriLL3 | I used to have 3 gear sets |
| 16:36.45 | KriLL3 | I killed the other 2 |
| 16:36.51 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, yeah, can't understand why, <2.5k |
| 16:36.53 | KriLL3 | wasn't any point in having blue/green gear |
| 16:37.05 | Lukian | KriLL3, yeah all that is gone :p |
| 16:37.08 | Funkeh` | i always assumed adobes servers sucked |
| 16:37.34 | Funkeh` | maybe I'm getting a shitty mirror |
| 16:37.49 | KriLL3 | Lukian: /use itemid=29471 ? |
| 16:37.57 | Lukian | just 29471 |
| 16:37.57 | KriLL3 | or what's the proper syntax? |
| 16:38.07 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.10 | SunTsu | KriLL3: I also have a epic heaöing equipment with my druid *g* "Well, nobody wants it, so you get it" "I don't want it either" 'You received item xyz' *g* |
| 16:38.10 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 16:38.11 | Lukian | afaik |
| 16:38.25 | SunTsu | healing even |
| 16:38.26 | durcyn | item:# |
| 16:38.34 | Lukian | k, what durcyn said |
| 16:38.38 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: I'm not a PvE:er |
| 16:39.19 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: http://downloads.nevcairiel.net/Shockwave_Installer_Slim.exe |
| 16:39.30 | nevcairiel | keylogger included, obviously |
| 16:39.53 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, thanks |
| 16:39.53 | KriLL3 | Lukian: I can't get it to work |
| 16:40.11 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.42 | KriLL3 | ah that works |
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| 16:43.01 | KriLL3 | a bit odd that my macro works with the second # which is for the one you buy for 30 marks of 3 kinds, not the older one you got with pvp rank |
| 16:43.14 | KriLL3 | guess blizz swapped my items at some point |
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| 16:57.46 | Pkekyo| | damn, ClosetGnome scared the shit outta me |
| 16:58.09 | Pkekyo| | asked it to equip my tankinggear and got the message "There is no tank." back :/ |
| 16:58.10 | Pkekyo| | reality has never been the same ever since |
| 16:58.26 | KriLL3 | ?... |
| 16:58.35 | durcyn | CG's quips are great, what are you talking about |
| 16:59.06 | KriLL3 | I hate that closetgnome doesn't equip the survey goggles, each time you do the quest you have to manually add them again |
| 16:59.07 | Fisker- | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:59.24 | Kuosi | There's nothing like smell of "pk" in the morning. |
| 16:59.45 | Pkekyo| | durcyn: go understand the referance then come back |
| 16:59.50 | Vulcanus | You wouldn't be saying that if you were norwegian, kuo :p |
| 17:00.30 | Pkekyo| | Vulcanus: howso? |
| 17:00.35 | Kuosi | luckily im only from finland |
| 17:00.52 | Pkekyo| | my kondolances Kuosi :p |
| 17:01.12 | Vulcanus | "pk" sounds like pikk :p |
| 17:01.28 | Pkekyo| | no, not really |
| 17:01.38 | Pkekyo| | if so, your pronounciation is severly fuckedup |
| 17:02.01 | Ellipsis | licks Pkekyo| |
| 17:02.16 | Kuosi | pk = player killer for meh :o |
| 17:02.19 | Kuosi | old d2 times |
| 17:02.31 | Kuosi | name of arena gear in gc for me |
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| 17:10.20 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis upside-down |
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| 17:15.34 | DARKGuy | TPPKs Kuosi |
| 17:16.11 | Kuosi | cheater =( |
| 17:16.21 | Kuosi | calls for chickenmodule |
| 17:16.24 | Kuosi | antitppk |
| 17:17.38 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 17:18.01 | DARKGuy | repeats, until Kuosi is kicked by Warden for using maphack! :o |
| 17:18.23 | Kuosi | nn it was in loader! |
| 17:18.39 | Cheads | let me see if I understood this right, with parrot you cannot make alerts when i.e. your target gain a buff, right? |
| 17:18.59 | profalbert | Cheads: you can |
| 17:18.59 | DARKGuy | fails then, chickenmodule isn't detectable :( |
| 17:19.51 | profalbert | Cheads: Create a new Trigger with the primary condition "Target buff gain" |
| 17:20.01 | Cheads | ahh right, see it now, thanks |
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| 17:20.23 | Cheads | it doesn't take spellid's right? |
| 17:20.52 | profalbert | Cheads: hmm... I think I made it take spellIds |
| 17:21.01 | profalbert | not sure, |
| 17:21.01 | profalbert | sec |
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| 17:21.23 | Cheads | ok will give it a try, not that it matters too much to me, won't be using different locale versions =) |
| 17:23.53 | thul | I have to find myself a new minimalist UI, now that I'm gaming on a real machine again |
| 17:24.54 | KriLL3 | thul: isn't it the other way around? |
| 17:25.59 | Pkekyo| | thul: new optics came in today :D |
| 17:27.26 | Pkekyo| | 14-42mm 1:3.5-5.6 0.25m - inf w/stabilisator |
| 17:29.37 | ktwo | is there a specific dot timer for shadowpriests? or a simple generic one? |
| 17:29.59 | Pkekyo| | tried DoTimer? |
| 17:30.05 | Pkekyo| | or something along those lines |
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| 17:30.59 | ktwo | i tried classtimer but thats a pain to configure and it tracks buffs too |
| 17:31.17 | ktwo | dotimer is no wowace addon right |
| 17:32.16 | Pkekyo| | no idea |
| 17:32.43 | Pkekyo| | usually I just pull answers out of my arse |
| 17:32.43 | Pkekyo| | ..oddly enough, they seem to work alot of the time |
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| 17:34.24 | cncfanatics | Pkekyo|: thats because most addon names suck monkey balls big time |
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| 17:36.08 | Cheads | profalbert atleast the Icon doesn't like spell names but only spellids |
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| 17:39.35 | Wraithan | ktwo: Not every addon needs to be aced in order for it to be good, and having a couple non-aced addons wont slaughter your memory usage, though I guess I am not a purist |
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| 17:42.49 | Funkeh` | he asked if it was on wowace |
| 17:43.34 | Wraithan | I thought he was just asking if it was aced or not, my mistake |
| 17:44.03 | durcyn | dotimer should be on wowi. make sure you grab a recent version though, as its use of SendAddonMessage used to be total, utter, complete garbage |
| 17:47.15 | Zyndrome | bah, replacing UI-Slot-Background.blp with a custom one doesn't do squat in Combuctor it seems, since I don't want the silly eagles for empty slots :< |
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| 17:59.14 | Kuosi | hum where do i find working urlcopy =( |
| 18:00.16 | ktwo | dotimer says "newer version available" but on wowi there is only that one -.. |
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| 18:10.21 | Kuosi | urlcopy i got just says imcompatible =( |
| 18:11.05 | Kuosi | mayb has probs with ochat |
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| 18:16.36 | durcyn | chatter's urlcopy doesn't suck too much |
| 18:21.15 | Kuosi | guess could try some bit advanced chat mode |
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| 18:31.04 | NeoTron_ | dotimer is pretty much still garbage :P |
| 18:37.26 | durcyn | if AURA_REFRESH ends up not sucking in 2.4.3 it should be trivial to write a replacement |
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| 18:42.53 | Aeyan | Are they supposed to look at it? |
| 18:44.42 | NeoTron_ | it's supposed to work |
| 18:44.55 | NeoTron_ | but even w/o it's reasonbly easy to do something better than dotimer |
| 18:45.07 | Josh_Borke | good luck :-D |
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| 18:45.25 | NeoTron_ | a guy at work is doing it |
| 18:45.33 | durcyn | tracking casts is easy. |
| 18:45.37 | durcyn | tracking recasts is impossible. |
| 18:45.58 | NeoTron_ | but typically you .. target stuff when casting on them |
| 18:46.05 | NeoTron_ | and then you can use the blizzard debuff api |
| 18:46.13 | durcyn | even if you watch for _CAST_SUCCESS instead of _AURA_APPLIED, you can't guarantee target |
| 18:46.21 | durcyn | a single [target=foo] macro breaks that |
| 18:46.50 | NeoTron_ | as it might be but dotimer doesn't even use combat log events |
| 18:47.02 | durcyn | yeah, i use target/focus, neo, but there are situations where other things are useful to track |
| 18:47.22 | durcyn | i.e., tracking CC across things you're not targetting, that you didn't cast |
| 18:47.30 | NeoTron_ | indeed |
| 18:47.43 | NeoTron_ | I will add that to Magic Targets (i.e CC durations) once 2.4.3 is out |
| 18:47.50 | NeoTron_ | ruight now I track CC'd or not |
| 18:47.56 | NeoTron_ | but don't bother trying to figure out for how long |
| 18:48.10 | NeoTron_ | but for DoTimer replacement, you only track your own stuff |
| 18:48.16 | durcyn | i plan on doing it with omniscience, specifically for diminishing returns |
| 18:48.25 | NeoTron_ | not saying tracking more wouldn't be valid, but that's not what DoTimer does (when I use it at least) |
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| 18:48.40 | durcyn | does it only attempt to display target? |
| 18:48.49 | durcyn | because that's redundant as hell |
| 18:48.53 | NeoTron_ | dotimer tracks across mobs |
| 18:49.04 | NeoTron_ | but it doesn't track other people's stuff |
| 18:49.15 | durcyn | oh, as it should be. |
| 18:49.41 | NeoTron_ | I'm thinking I'll use something that rather than tracking timers, tells me when I need to recast something |
| 18:49.47 | NeoTron_ | being destro I don't really need a dotimer |
| 18:50.06 | durcyn | nah, have to watch your COD after the patch ;) |
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| 18:51.28 | NeoTron_ | hehe |
| 18:51.36 | NeoTron_ | better ways to track it |
| 18:51.43 | NeoTron_ | one second.. |
| 18:52.13 | NeoTron_ | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3897/ that one might be moer suitable for 1-5 minute things |
| 18:52.37 | NeoTron_ | although that might just be for buffs/debuffs theer are similar things for cooldowns |
| 18:53.01 | durcyn | pretty sure that's notification of self-auras |
| 18:53.15 | durcyn | actually, what am i saying, just watching the cooldown is sufficient |
| 18:53.27 | durcyn | need to merge libbars hourglass to trunk i suppose |
| 18:53.41 | NeoTron_ | yeah it's just for self-auras |
| 18:53.43 | durcyn | but it needs a new name |
| 18:53.49 | NeoTron_ | I need to set it up for Eredar Twins |
| 18:53.58 | NeoTron_ | not that I have much issues anymore but it's useful for buffs like that |
| 18:54.03 | durcyn | if you had to name a cooldown mod, what would you name it |
| 18:54.15 | NeoTron_ | sucks at naming. :) |
| 18:55.46 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 18:55.54 | cncfanatics | any reason why my linux box cld be slowing down ? |
| 18:56.06 | cncfanatics | it's been up since about 12 hours but far from all cpu & mem are being used |
| 18:56.16 | durcyn | check vmstat, top |
| 18:56.42 | Jygga | hi, is the latest tiny tip "working" now? with options and everything? |
| 18:56.55 | Jygga | had it on wau ignore for weeks now |
| 18:57.16 | cncfanatics | durcyn: I did, nothing special |
| 18:57.30 | cncfanatics | highest task is Xorg using 3.3% cpu |
| 19:03.14 | Aeyan | durcyn: Heatsink? =P |
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| 19:03.41 | durcyn | huh, that's not bad. hm. |
| 19:04.44 | sedai| | at first i didnt like Dominos's lack of toggle for its sticky bar feature |
| 19:05.12 | Aeyan | Having to fish through a thread to figure how not to stick them was kind of a pain |
| 19:05.12 | sedai| | but after messing with it for a bit the feature to add padding to the bars made up for it |
| 19:05.30 | Aeyan | Should probably be in the first post or at least in the addon description on addon sites =P |
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| 19:12.26 | scout | hey guys i host our guild forums using phpbb3. I would like to use a portal/frontend for the forums as our main page. I have tried phpbb3portal and it seems ok but customizing it looks like a bit of a headache. any suggestions on other portals or frontends for guild website? (using phpbb3 forum backend) |
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| 19:16.06 | ktwo | does blizzard limit to configure addons in combat or the addon programmers? |
| 19:16.29 | DARKGuy | sometimes both |
| 19:20.10 | Avrys | scout - Mike take a look at Joomla, MKPortal |
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| 19:21.25 | Avrys | s/Mike/might |
| 19:24.40 | scout | avrys, thanks bud ;) |
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| 19:36.23 | Avrys | scout nps |
| 19:36.51 | scout | cool will look into it now ;) |
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| 19:41.54 | sb | hmm |
| 19:42.17 | sb | does righteous fury affect prayer of mending? |
| 19:42.50 | Arrowmaster | it should |
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| 19:47.34 | NeoTron_ | ordered his Blizzard authenticator. |
| 19:47.54 | NeoTron_ | and it's amusing how my WoW account will be more secure than my online banking account |
| 19:48.12 | VonhintenHOME` | eh? |
| 19:48.13 | NeoTron_ | the US is so far behind on online banking security |
| 19:48.26 | NeoTron_ | "eh?" what? |
| 19:48.36 | VonhintenHOME` | never heard of that, link? |
| 19:49.03 | VonhintenHOME` | usb key fob? |
| 19:49.08 | NeoTron_ | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=24660&rhtml=true |
| 19:49.16 | NeoTron_ | one time password generator |
| 19:49.42 | sb | not usb |
| 19:50.08 | Fisker- | stop with that fob shit |
| 19:50.11 | Fisker- | sounds so stupid |
| 19:50.13 | Fisker- | i want to destroy you |
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| 19:50.25 | Fisker- | i'll be in the ANGRYDOME |
| 19:50.28 | VonhintenHOME` | You can't destroy me without destroying your mother first |
| 19:50.36 | Fisker- | no problem |
| 19:50.38 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm using her as a human cock shield! |
| 19:50.38 | sb | Fisker-: video + youtube plx |
| 19:50.56 | Megalon | VonhintenHOME`: i don't think fisker will have any problem with that ;) |
| 19:51.03 | VonhintenHOME` | bah... |
| 19:51.20 | Fisker- | infact that would've been my idea to begin with |
| 19:51.28 | Fisker- | <-brb |
| 19:51.30 | Fisker- | err |
| 19:51.31 | Fisker- | brb |
| 19:51.32 | Fisker- | bbl |
| 19:51.33 | Fisker- | :( |
| 19:52.40 | VonhintenHOME` | this authenticator sounds like more of a pain in the ass than it's worth imo |
| 19:53.02 | VonhintenHOME` | especially since I frequently run my accounts on different comps |
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| 19:53.22 | WhiteRabi | hi |
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| 19:55.06 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: it's movable |
| 19:55.25 | NeoTron_ | it's somewhat of a pain yes, but it adds a level of security that's not easy to bypass/hack |
| 19:55.27 | VonhintenHOME` | so are usb key fobs, they're still a pain in the ass though |
| 19:55.28 | WhiteRabi | I am trying to find a compilation thats isnt alot of visual bulk o.O |
| 19:55.30 | NeoTron_ | possible, sure but not easily |
| 19:56.11 | NeoTron_ | WhiteRabi: if you don't want "visual bulk" why bother with a compilation? They are usually just a bunch of addons mixed together, with some custom visual bulk added to make it "pretty" |
| 19:56.19 | Kazie | What does reset=20/combat mean? :o.. in a /castsequence.. |
| 19:56.50 | WhiteRabi | NeoTron_ - well.. true, normally its a compilation of mods that remove default bulk, and customize what does show up |
| 19:57.05 | Aeyan | Just a guess but I'd said reset the sequence to the beginning in 20 seconds or combat state change |
| 19:57.14 | Aeyan | Haven't seen combat in a reset before though |
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| 20:04.03 | WhiteRabi | alright, lets see where to start. |
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| 20:07.11 | Kazie | What does reset=20/combat mean? :o.. in a /castsequence.. |
| 20:07.26 | WhiteRabi | No clue :P |
| 20:07.32 | Kazie | I can't find it anywhere :o |
| 20:07.51 | Kazie | And it would be nice to understand a macro you wanna test :) |
| 20:07.51 | Kulaar | perhaps the author means you can either enter "20" or "combat" |
| 20:08.13 | Aeyan | (Aeyan) Just a guess but I'd said reset the sequence to the beginning in 20 seconds or combat state change |
| 20:08.51 | WhiteRabi | hrm, Prat2 is probably the best chat mod right? |
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| 20:09.44 | Zyndrome | Chatter, hooooo |
| 20:09.47 | profalber1 | WhiteRabi: Chatter |
| 20:10.36 | WhiteRabi | chatter eh? Now I need to look that up! |
| 20:11.02 | WhiteRabi | Think thats what i need, hide buttons too! |
| 20:11.03 | WhiteRabi | hrm! |
| 20:11.04 | Aeyan | Most of Prat's features, fraction of the CPU usage |
| 20:11.20 | Aeyan | Or, there's lots of very small chat addons around too |
| 20:11.25 | Aeyan | If you don't need all those features |
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| 20:13.20 | sb | is there something bad with illidan tanked by pally? |
| 20:13.24 | sb | is it possible/any harder? |
| 20:13.35 | Silviu- | is possible |
| 20:13.36 | profalber1 | sb: what I heard it's possible |
| 20:13.48 | Silviu- | we did it one time i think |
| 20:16.26 | sb | our MT will cry :o |
| 20:16.41 | sb | birthday today, no raiding - and felmyst dropped shield :o |
| 20:16.49 | ZealotOnAStick | it's doable. Healing is a little trickier on certain phases due to just not having quite as much health. |
| 20:16.57 | Kuosi | it is possible, I've done it on my pala |
| 20:17.01 | ZealotOnAStick | Hell, a Rogue has tanked Illidan now. |
| 20:17.14 | sb | rogue is no problem |
| 20:17.17 | sb | the problem could be shear |
| 20:17.21 | Kuosi | ZealotOnAStick: pala tank actually has atleast the same hp as war one :P |
| 20:17.21 | sb | thats why i'm asking :) |
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| 20:17.37 | ZealotOnAStick | Kuosi: not our Taurens. :P |
| 20:17.42 | Kuosi | mayb taurens yea |
| 20:17.57 | Kuosi | palas have lower stam base |
| 20:18.03 | Kuosi | but they get 16% from talents |
| 20:18.14 | Kuosi | wars whooping 5% |
| 20:21.32 | WhiteRabi | hrm.. i saw a mod that had added a "down arrow" that you could click to hide the chat windows. |
| 20:21.53 | Kuosi | minichat |
| 20:21.59 | NeoTron_ | pallies work fine |
| 20:22.07 | WhiteRabi | ah |
| 20:22.08 | NeoTron_ | just need to have enough avoidance to evoid sheer with just holy shield |
| 20:22.20 | NeoTron_ | or if not complete,y be very close and hope for redoubt or luck |
| 20:22.22 | Kuosi | thats not exactly hard |
| 20:22.32 | WhiteRabi | wipes a tear. |
| 20:22.32 | Kuosi | just need 105% total avoidance |
| 20:22.34 | WhiteRabi | I love you Kuosi |
| 20:22.35 | Kuosi | as shear cant miss |
| 20:22.44 | NeoTron_ | Kuosi: need more |
| 20:22.57 | NeoTron_ | it's like 102.5 or so with miss, so 107-108% |
| 20:23.05 | Kuosi | hum |
| 20:23.09 | Kuosi | cant remember |
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| 20:23.14 | Kuosi | i just used the badge libram there |
| 20:23.23 | Kuosi | 5% extra block |
| 20:23.37 | NeoTron_ | ironically we changed from warrior (never having tanked illidan, normally dps, but with good tank gear) to pally on illidan |
| 20:23.45 | NeoTron_ | warrior kept failing to block sheer and dying |
| 20:23.50 | NeoTron_ | paladin got a couple of sheers and lived |
| 20:24.26 | Pkekyo| | yay, just got the ZA tankingshield :) |
| 20:24.32 | NeoTron_ | the most amusing part though |
| 20:24.42 | NeoTron_ | we got an Illidan only instance |
| 20:24.58 | NeoTron_ | so we went and got to the shadow phase.. and ppl started dying |
| 20:25.23 | NeoTron_ | becuase since I knew we weren't doing Illidan this week, I had respeced into Nether Protection (for M'uru primarily) for the first time in about 8 months |
| 20:25.35 | Arrowmaster | 102.4% |
| 20:25.37 | Kuosi | haha |
| 20:25.48 | Kuosi | we've had netherprotection wl there aswell |
| 20:25.58 | NeoTron_ | we almost made it still |
| 20:25.59 | VonhintenHOME` | my rogue tanking set is complete |
| 20:26.04 | NeoTron_ | but I got demon and died |
| 20:26.28 | NeoTron_ | positioning mde the demon go on the wrong side of the pillar but also we already had dpsers dead |
| 20:26.58 | Arrowmaster | VonhintenHOME`: my friend only needs like 2 more items for his rogue tanking set, one more and he'll be able to do it if we get an insect swarm |
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| 20:27.36 | VonhintenHOME` | We were gonna try Kazzak on friday, but someone had killed him |
| 20:28.03 | sacarasc | heh |
| 20:28.12 | VonhintenHOME` | Want to try gruul, but there's no way we can small man high king |
| 20:28.39 | WhiteRabi | ok wtf, every time I try installing a mod with wowaceupdater or whatever, the mod doesnt work o.o |
| 20:28.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Kinda makes that video BS imo.. who cares about 5 manning gruul if you have to take a much bigger raid to get to him |
| 20:29.25 | Arrowmaster | actually i heard that the rogue in that vid tanked almost all of the highking adds |
| 20:29.34 | WhiteRabi | I check the addons folder, and its there, and its even listed in the "Addons" in the character select (they are enabled and "load out of date addons" is checked), etc.. but they arent really loaded in game |
| 20:29.35 | ckknight | Does anyone here have the capability to make 3d models usable in WoW? I need a simple model created and am willing to pay for the service. |
| 20:29.59 | Arrowmaster | WhiteRabi: make sure lua errors are enabled |
| 20:30.15 | WhiteRabi | lua errors huh? |
| 20:30.21 | Arrowmaster | interface options |
| 20:30.23 | Arrowmaster | help |
| 20:30.27 | VonhintenHOME` | Arrow, how is that possible? the warlock fears, the shaman does a knockback, the mage.. lol... |
| 20:30.37 | VonhintenHOME` | sure you could tank high king, assuming he doesn't fear you |
| 20:30.44 | WhiteRabi | see the funny thing is.. If I just install it myself, like, copy and paste the damn thing into Addons, it works.. |
| 20:30.54 | WhiteRabi | (for example, chatter ) |
| 20:30.59 | Arrowmaster | WhiteRabi: dependance issue |
| 20:31.02 | Arrowmaster | check wau options |
| 20:31.07 | WhiteRabi | hrm, one sec |
| 20:31.53 | WhiteRabi | ok there we go |
| 20:32.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Anyway, tanking set is done, but the most i've done with it is take on a Fel Reaver (stuns, needed a couple heals) and Durn the Hungerer (no heals) |
| 20:32.17 | VonhintenHOME` | and I can farm elite trees in skettis without getting hit half the time |
| 20:34.18 | Arrowmaster | nerf rogues |
| 20:34.58 | Arrowmaster | MT lagged out and died on first sheer of illidan last night and our top rogue in pve gear tanked him for almost all of phase1 |
| 20:34.58 | VonhintenHOME` | bah, my pally can do that already |
| 20:35.58 | VonhintenHOME` | I did kinda the same thing in ZA the other day, our tank went offline on the bear then the other tank died, I tanked him for 30 seconds until the other tank came back online |
| 20:36.08 | Zyndrome | oh god Illidan sucks dick again |
| 20:36.12 | VonhintenHOME` | my evasion wore off and got damn lucky |
| 20:36.20 | Zyndrome | third glaive offhand, we're still waiting on mainhand |
| 20:36.27 | Arrowmaster | =( |
| 20:36.27 | NeoTron_ | Zyndrome: you're lucky |
| 20:36.31 | Arrowmaster | we have 2 mainhands |
| 20:36.33 | NeoTron_ | we have gotten a single mainhand in 6 months |
| 20:36.41 | Arrowmaster | 0 offhands |
| 20:36.42 | WhiteRabi | ok got it working now |
| 20:36.44 | Zyndrome | NeoTron_ : some scrub guild on my server got both glaives ... in 2 kills |
| 20:36.50 | WhiteRabi | it wasnt installing dewdrop |
| 20:36.56 | Zyndrome | random loot is random |
| 20:36.59 | Arrowmaster | we got our first glaive on the first kill |
| 20:37.03 | Arrowmaster | and our 2nd on the 3rd kill |
| 20:37.09 | Kuosi | Zyndrome: i could take one of those oh's =( |
| 20:37.12 | Arrowmaster | none since |
| 20:37.15 | profalber1 | Arrowmaster: 15 kills, no glaive, .... |
| 20:37.22 | Kuosi | my mh is feeling very lonely |
| 20:37.41 | Arrowmaster | its ok we gave the 2nd mh to a fury warrior that never plays anymore |
| 20:38.03 | VonhintenHOME` | what's with warriors and never playing |
| 20:38.08 | VonhintenHOME` | tanks, or dps |
| 20:38.12 | VonhintenHOME` | they just fucking disappear |
| 20:38.16 | profalber1 | one of my guildies bought a rogue with both blades |
| 20:38.22 | NivFreak | I never disappear |
| 20:38.23 | Kuosi | i could understand fury wars quitting |
| 20:38.27 | Kuosi | becaues they just fail :D |
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| 20:38.31 | Kuosi | useless class |
| 20:38.55 | Arrowmaster | we bring an MS warrior to raids lol |
| 20:38.56 | VonhintenHOME` | say that when you have 0 sunders and 0 battleshout |
| 20:39.20 | Kuosi | i didnt say wars in general |
| 20:39.24 | Kuosi | just the fury spec is big fail atm |
| 20:39.31 | Kuosi | prot wars still rock |
| 20:39.36 | Kuosi | and one arms war is must have |
| 20:40.11 | NivFreak | fury warriors are great |
| 20:40.36 | Kuosi | for |
| 20:40.39 | Kuosi | ? |
| 20:41.03 | NeoTron_ | they should have made the dual warglaive the drop and given the possibility to split/join it as initially planned |
| 20:41.14 | NeoTron_ | waiting n one legendary drop is bad enough, waiting for two is dumb |
| 20:41.56 | NivFreak | Kuosi: dps and offtanking and raid buffs |
| 20:42.23 | Kuosi | there's feral for ot'ing and raid buffs come from arms war |
| 20:42.30 | NivFreak | meh, arms warriors |
| 20:43.52 | Chompers | arms>fury |
| 20:44.05 | Chompers | for 25mans at least |
| 20:44.25 | NeoTron_ | fury ~= rogue. arms ~= affliction lock |
| 20:44.33 | NeoTron_ | meaning fury is mostly just DPS, while arms is a raid debuffer |
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| 20:44.45 | NivFreak | 4% to physical sure |
| 20:44.54 | NeoTron_ | which is huge |
| 20:44.58 | NivFreak | there are just so many fail arms warriors |
| 20:45.13 | NeoTron_ | sure |
| 20:45.21 | NivFreak | disproportionally |
| 20:45.22 | NeoTron_ | mind you I'd say it's really not an issue before SWP |
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| 20:47.13 | digmouse | I WANT HUNTER TALENTS!!!!! |
| 20:47.33 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:47.41 | NivFreak | the beta opt-in link vanished eh |
| 20:48.15 | Arrowmaster | what beta? |
| 20:48.19 | NivFreak | wotlk |
| 20:48.26 | NivFreak | or at least, I assume :P |
| 20:48.31 | NivFreak | since it was under my wow account |
| 20:48.35 | NeoTron_ | the one from wotlkbeta.phatsite.co.hk? :P |
| 20:48.49 | digmouse | the only good news is that steady shot wont break auto anymore. I hate those BLASTER macro |
| 20:48.54 | phyber | wotlkbeta.sexleg.cn |
| 20:48.57 | NivFreak | no, from www.worldofwarcrat.com/account |
| 20:49.13 | NivFreak | they added a link last week that was going to the recruit a friend page |
| 20:49.18 | NivFreak | from your account management section |
| 20:49.19 | Chompers | no idea why warriors fail so much |
| 20:49.21 | NivFreak | but it's gone now |
| 20:49.29 | Chompers | if they're dps, they usually suck |
| 20:49.37 | NeoTron_ | I just picked to opt in for betas when I bought the blizzard authenticator |
| 20:50.05 | NeoTron_ | http://wowwebstats.com/5pc66t3gjxor1?s=49833-78133 |
| 20:50.19 | NeoTron_ | Look for "Baked" |
| 20:50.34 | NeoTron_ | Arms warrior |
| 20:51.42 | Chompers | not bad at all |
| 20:51.48 | Chompers | i hope to do his dps some day |
| 20:52.09 | NivFreak | wtb my raid group doing 30K dps |
| 20:52.14 | Chompers | 1200 on a good melee friendly fight |
| 20:52.22 | NivFreak | or fuck, wtb melee who can fucking kick spirit shocks |
| 20:52.25 | NivFreak | and not deaden |
| 20:52.28 | NivFreak | grumbles |
| 20:52.51 | WhiteRabi | suggested bar addon? bartender 4? |
| 20:53.14 | NivFreak | also, wtb enh shaman that can do 2K dps |
| 20:53.17 | Stanzilla | dominos :D |
| 20:53.21 | NivFreak | :P |
| 20:53.28 | Arrowmaster | bartender4 |
| 20:53.28 | WhiteRabi | alright, dominos it is! |
| 20:53.37 | WhiteRabi | seems it didnt install though o.o |
| 20:53.39 | phyber | chain lightning. just need more brutalluses to hit. |
| 20:54.19 | NeoTron_ | the warrior joined our guild |
| 20:54.23 | NeoTron_ | that WWS is not ours |
| 20:54.36 | NeoTron_ | mind you he had no responsibilies except dpsing and keeping the automatically applied debuff up |
| 20:55.11 | Chompers | i was going to spec into imp demo shout, but warlocks are always in short supply |
| 20:55.17 | Chompers | so no reason to yet |
| 20:55.27 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 20:55.29 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 20:55.38 | Chompers | for CoR |
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| 20:55.50 | Arrowmaster | i still dont see how Imp demo matters |
| 20:56.00 | Arrowmaster | somebody should have it anyway |
| 20:56.23 | Chompers | it removes the extra ap the boss gets, making CoR okay to use |
| 20:56.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah still dont get it |
| 20:57.59 | Megalon | Arrowmaster: you know how mobs scale with AP? ;) |
| 20:58.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:58.50 | Arrowmaster | somebody should still have imp demo reguardless of cor |
| 20:59.17 | Civrock | Only need 2 points in Imp DS without CoR, with CoR you need 5 points. |
| 20:59.33 | Chompers | 800ArP is tasty |
| 20:59.51 | Arrowmaster | why would you only put 2 points in it |
| 21:00.13 | Civrock | It's pointless to have more if your raid never uses CoR. |
| 21:00.25 | sedai| | try a addon called DOMINOS |
| 21:00.25 | Tinyboom | paene: ping :) |
| 21:00.34 | Chompers | http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t24537-warrior_arms/ |
| 21:00.42 | Chompers | "Improved Demoralizing Shout" |
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| 21:05.24 | Vulcanus | Tinyboom: what did you want Paene for? Cryolysis stuff? |
| 21:06.42 | Tinyboom | Vulcanus: aye, afaik cryo2 still doesn't work without externals.... and libbars has been released |
| 21:07.38 | Vulcanus | yeah well we decided to drop bar support since we realised there's millions of other addons doing it already (and better than us, I might add). There's still some references in there, I just haven't gotten around to cleaning them out yet. |
| 21:07.44 | Vulcanus | Ill see about sorting it soonish |
| 21:07.50 | Tinyboom | kk:) |
| 21:08.03 | Tinyboom | don't use the bars anyways :p |
| 21:08.54 | WhiteRabi | I use barz! |
| 21:10.00 | Vulcanus | not in cryo2 you dont :p |
| 21:12.19 | sb | meh |
| 21:12.32 | sb | okay pally tank is fine for ilidan |
| 21:13.09 | sb | but now our offwarri is complaining about boss debuffing, blahblah no fun with all those stuff.. ;) |
| 21:13.45 | Zyndrome | just cause we pallys have it easier? :< |
| 21:14.31 | WhiteRabi | forges away on the minimal compilation! |
| 21:14.39 | sb | well - i think he wants to play his role (melee dps :p) and not debuff-whore ;) |
| 21:14.50 | EvilJohn | not a fan of pally tank on illidan p1 |
| 21:15.03 | sb | p1 is easy |
| 21:15.09 | EvilJohn | they have to shield their shield for the shear, and that gimps their tps |
| 21:15.10 | sb | p4/p5 sucks (enrage) |
| 21:15.28 | sb | because they dont have shieldwall, last stand, ... :) |
| 21:15.33 | EvilJohn | yeah |
| 21:15.44 | EvilJohn | especially if they come out of the 30% freeze not topped off |
| 21:15.48 | EvilJohn | ugly |
| 21:16.32 | Gnarfoz | just use DS for fun and profit! ;D |
| 21:16.48 | Apoco | what would cause a frame not to hide when you hit altz to hide the UI? |
| 21:17.24 | Gnarfoz | not parented to UIParent |
| 21:17.41 | Apoco | hmm |
| 21:17.49 | Gnarfoz | check GetMouseFocus():GetParent():GetName() (dunno if maybe GetParent() already returns a name) |
| 21:18.03 | WhiteRabi | hrm, quick question er.. is there a pitbull layout anyone knows off that is rather small for player unit frames? |
| 21:18.16 | WhiteRabi | trying to adjust these damn things myself and its a headache :P |
| 21:18.38 | Chompers | you only do it once, then it's done forever |
| 21:19.30 | WhiteRabi | yeah, i realize that, seems I can't get it the way I want.. at all. I looked at some of the ones on the forum and have no clue how they got them that way :P |
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| 21:23.48 | nevcairiel | yay CIA-44 is back |
| 21:25.35 | ckknight | hugs CIA-44 |
| 21:25.36 | CIA-44 | hugs ckknight |
| 21:25.49 | {RN}Terra | whoa it responds! |
| 21:26.28 | {RN}Terra | i thought it was just a mindless bot, guess i was wrong |
| 21:27.44 | ckknight | kicks CIA-44 |
| 21:27.44 | CIA-44 | ow |
| 21:27.46 | ckknight | also that |
| 21:27.57 | {RN}Terra | haha |
| 21:28.27 | VonhintenHOME` | gives CIA-44 a good rogering |
| 21:30.47 | ckknight | lol, VonhintenHOME` |
| 21:31.43 | ktwo | i am now using s1 swords (2.6/1.5 speed) what would be best s2 upgrade: another mainhand and use 2.6/2.6 speed or S2 offhand with 1.5? (shadowstep) |
| 21:32.38 | Gnarfoz | wtf? no slow offhands for rogues, ever |
| 21:32.43 | Gnarfoz | so: mainhand |
| 21:32.58 | Gnarfoz | it's what your skills are executed with |
| 21:33.17 | Gnarfoz | s2 mh/s1 oh |
| 21:33.48 | {RN}Terra | yeah upgrading the MH will give you a more noticable DPS increase then the OH |
| 21:33.49 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: but i use teh shiv to pwn teh n00bs! |
| 21:34.02 | Wraithan | I need a slow offhand for my shaman =( |
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| 21:34.12 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: and shiv energy cost decreases with speed.., thus? |
| 21:34.18 | ktwo | yea, thought that myself, its just hat someone said higher offhand hits are better cause i usually dont have the energy to hemo after 1.5 |
| 21:34.18 | Wraithan | but I haven't seen anything under 2.0 drop in a long while for me |
| 21:34.21 | Gnarfoz | Wraithan: badge weaponzz |
| 21:34.26 | Wraithan | yeah, working on it |
| 21:34.43 | Gnarfoz | ktwo: whoever told you that is full of it ^^ |
| 21:35.07 | Kamel | i know this may not be the best place to ask, but i was wondering if there are any guides to teach addon creation/lua for world of warcraft. i've done some programming, but never in lua and i'd like something to get me started |
| 21:36.00 | VonhintenHOME` | ~pul |
| 21:36.02 | VonhintenHOME` | ? |
| 21:36.03 | Gnarfoz | haven't seen generic online tutorials (only tutorials centering on some specific aspect like using a certain framework to create addons) |
| 21:36.09 | VonhintenHOME` | ~pil |
| 21:36.09 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 21:36.09 | Gnarfoz | there's always |
| 21:36.12 | Gnarfoz | ~wowprogramming |
| 21:36.12 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 21:36.12 | Gnarfoz | though |
| 21:36.22 | Kaelten | boo! |
| 21:36.24 | Gnarfoz | and no, PIL is just for Lua, it doesn't really help for creating wow addons ;lp |
| 21:36.36 | Kamel | thanks purl |
| 21:36.40 | Gnarfoz | YAY RANDOM HIGHLIGHTING ~wave Kaelten |
| 21:36.41 | VonhintenHOME` | if you know coding, all you need is PIL, and looking through others code |
| 21:36.57 | {RN}Terra | wow 2.0+ is based on Lua 5.1 |
| 21:36.59 | Gnarfoz | that might be true, but results might certainly vary wildly |
| 21:37.07 | Kamel | lol... thanks Gnarfoz actually |
| 21:37.13 | {RN}Terra | so if you take a generic book be aware of that |
| 21:37.16 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, online PIL is outdated if you're trying to use it for wow |
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| 21:39.21 | cogwheel | boo! |
| 21:39.21 | CIA-44 | 03ominous * r77639 10ClassTimer/ (9 files in 3 dirs): ClassTimer: Upgraded to use Ace3 |
| 21:39.39 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 21:39.39 | cogwheel | and clad's on a train to london right now so i'll boo! for him by proxy :P |
| 21:39.46 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 21:39.50 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:40.17 | ckknight | cogwheel: ? |
| 21:40.34 | Gnarfoz | wait, if he was to Paris for the WWI... what train would he be on to London now? o_O wouldn't he just fly directly? |
| 21:40.34 | WhiteRabi | blah |
| 21:40.57 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: Chunnel |
| 21:41.00 | phyber | clad lives in the UK or he's just visiting or getting to London airport? |
| 21:41.04 | sacarasc | Gnarfoz: there are direct trains from london to paris |
| 21:41.09 | Gnarfoz | he's UK based afaik |
| 21:41.14 | cogwheel | he's at oxford |
| 21:41.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, there are... but the chunnel is fucking expensive |
| 21:41.19 | phyber | ah |
| 21:41.20 | WhiteRabi | ok.. I need a more simplistic unit frames mod. |
| 21:41.54 | cogwheel | ckknight: was just copying Kaelten |
| 21:41.55 | Chompers | pitbull |
| 21:41.55 | Chompers | just don't change any settings |
| 21:41.55 | {RN}Terra | What are you using now Whiterabi? |
| 21:41.55 | WhiteRabi | heh pitbull |
| 21:41.55 | Gnarfoz | obviously, pitbull is the most simplistic of them all... not xD it's awesome, though ;) |
| 21:41.58 | WhiteRabi | Yeah it is |
| 21:41.59 | {RN}Terra | lol |
| 21:41.59 | Kaelten | boo! |
| 21:42.05 | Kaelten | er |
| 21:42.06 | {RN}Terra | AHHH! |
| 21:42.07 | WhiteRabi | but.. I don't want to spend the next 4 days modifying it :P |
| 21:42.15 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: that's half the fun! |
| 21:42.21 | WhiteRabi | !!!!!!!! |
| 21:42.21 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: :-P |
| 21:42.26 | WhiteRabi | ckknight - YOU BUILT IT! |
| 21:42.29 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: (author of PitBull, btw) |
| 21:42.32 | WhiteRabi | I know |
| 21:42.32 | ckknight | truth |
| 21:42.38 | ckknight | I build all. |
| 21:42.40 | WhiteRabi | I am like.. Uber Jesus * 2 |
| 21:42.46 | ckknight | well, except for the things I didn't |
| 21:42.51 | {RN}Terra | find a ui compilation that has a awesome looking setup using pitbul and copy the config files for it |
| 21:42.53 | WhiteRabi | makes sense! |
| 21:42.57 | Gnarfoz | I seriously don't get how flying straight to London from Germany can be less expensive than going by ferry from France or the Tunnel (which in turn is more expensive than taking the Ferry) |
| 21:43.25 | Gnarfoz | ... but it is :-9 |
| 21:44.29 | WhiteRabi | I think the unit frames are the last of what I need to modify before I can continue! |
| 21:44.38 | ktwo | that might depend on where in germany you start :P |
| 21:44.52 | Beutju | does anyone know a sort of instant messenger addon for wow; so that incoming whispers are divided by persons that whisper me? |
| 21:45.02 | WhiteRabi | Wow Instant Messenger (WIM) |
| 21:45.03 | Gnarfoz | "wim" |
| 21:45.03 | {RN}Terra | i need to take the time to redo my UI.... |
| 21:45.31 | Gnarfoz | ktwo: dunno if there's something like RyanAir in the southern parts... so yes, that's probably the case indeed |
| 21:45.39 | WhiteRabi | anyone know of a "Snap to grid" type addon? I have Align, thats alright, just hoping for a snap |
| 21:45.49 | Beutju | thx |
| 21:46.45 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: continue what? |
| 21:47.10 | WhiteRabi | my compilation ! |
| 21:47.24 | WhiteRabi | ah its just a minimalistic ui really. |
| 21:47.25 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: what map addon did you put in? |
| 21:47.37 | WhiteRabi | none, at this time |
| 21:47.44 | ckknight | okay then |
| 21:47.57 | SunTsu | WhiteRabi: Ask him what is in for you if you take Chinchilla ;) |
| 21:48.04 | WhiteRabi | oh oh |
| 21:48.09 | WhiteRabi | Whats in it for me if I take Chinchilla? |
| 21:48.18 | ckknight | I'm more referring to Cartographer3 than Chinchilla |
| 21:48.21 | ckknight | both are good, though |
| 21:48.31 | ckknight | also, it's pretty obvious what you get out of it |
| 21:48.33 | ckknight | sexy time. |
| 21:48.45 | WhiteRabi | Wewt |
| 21:48.51 | WhiteRabi | Time for ckknight to be the bitch! |
| 21:48.53 | WhiteRabi | >_< |
| 21:49.09 | ckknight | sorry, I'm a dom |
| 21:49.14 | WhiteRabi | OH SNAP |
| 21:49.50 | {RN}Terra | Hey ckknight, what does your UI look like? |
| 21:50.08 | ckknight | {RN}Terra: I have !Swatter, a few libraries, and Cartographer3 running |
| 21:50.09 | WhiteRabi | he has so much stuff all over it, he cant see anything in the world |
| 21:50.12 | ckknight | :-P |
| 21:50.23 | {RN}Terra | lol |
| 21:50.24 | WhiteRabi | probably has a 2mm square off in the center somewhere |
| 21:50.24 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: actually I like to see my worldframe |
| 21:50.25 | WhiteRabi | :P |
| 21:50.29 | ckknight | let's see |
| 21:50.31 | ckknight | I use Chatter |
| 21:50.32 | WhiteRabi | Kidding! |
| 21:50.32 | ckknight | FuBar |
| 21:50.34 | ckknight | PitBull |
| 21:50.37 | ckknight | Chinchilla |
| 21:50.41 | WhiteRabi | You use Pitbull? ah thats crap |
| 21:50.43 | ckknight | Cart3 + Cart2 |
| 21:50.44 | {RN}Terra | Whiterabi, If that's the case I doubt it's worse than mine |
| 21:50.47 | WhiteRabi | Kidding KIDDING don't kick me! |
| 21:50.48 | haste | less -1 ckknight ! |
| 21:51.01 | WhiteRabi | haha Tera |
| 21:51.02 | {RN}Terra | haha |
| 21:51.04 | WhiteRabi | er, Terra |
| 21:51.06 | WhiteRabi | hrm. |
| 21:51.19 | WhiteRabi | Ok.. anyone know of a snap to grid addon? |
| 21:51.21 | ckknight | um... Bartender4 |
| 21:51.25 | ckknight | ZOMGBuffs |
| 21:51.41 | Stanzilla | ckknight: screenshot of the addon folder imo! |
| 21:51.42 | ckknight | that's the major parts |
| 21:51.47 | Stanzilla | go go |
| 21:51.47 | Gnarfoz | WhiteRabi: SnapToGrid |
| 21:51.48 | ckknight | Stanzilla: not much is enabled in it |
| 21:52.01 | Gnarfoz | WhiteRabi: also: Align (no snappnig, but a grid) |
| 21:52.16 | ckknight | and I mean, I have stuff like TomTom in my addons, which is in there because I'm trying to steal ideas for Cart3's waypoints |
| 21:52.17 | {RN}Terra | hehe align isvery useful |
| 21:52.21 | Stanzilla | ckknight: I still want to see your interface ingame :P |
| 21:52.33 | Gnarfoz | no addons, default UI ;D |
| 21:52.36 | {RN}Terra | screenshots! |
| 21:53.10 | ckknight | Stanzilla: okay, next time I'm playing my pally, I'll take a screenie |
| 21:53.13 | ckknight | could be later today |
| 21:53.16 | Stanzilla | <3 |
| 21:53.24 | ckknight | I bought a 60" TV yesterday, got installed today |
| 21:53.26 | ckknight | I wanna play WoW on it |
| 21:53.40 | Wraithan | I am going to purchase a 40" |
| 21:53.57 | Gnarfoz | I hate you both, out of sheer envy |
| 21:54.03 | Wraithan | Wasn't sure about anything larger due to the crap resolution 1080p gets |
| 21:54.12 | {RN}Terra | hehe I think I take the cake on bad UI, always too lazy to redo it, but the whole 130MBs on logon is starting to bother me |
| 21:54.34 | Gnarfoz | bad resolution? you mean channels broadcasting 1080p with shit bandwith or not even 1080p at all? |
| 21:54.54 | Wraithan | 1920x1080 max resolution |
| 21:55.13 | Gnarfoz | well, that's 1080p |
| 21:55.21 | Gnarfoz | what's bad about it? |
| 21:55.40 | Wraithan | it isn't 2560x1600 |
| 21:55.45 | ckknight | lol, Wraithan |
| 21:55.49 | Gnarfoz | it's a TV, not a computer monitor. |
| 21:55.50 | ckknight | it's enough for me |
| 21:55.59 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: but I'm going to use it as a computer monitor |
| 21:56.03 | Gnarfoz | though, nowadays, borders between those seem to vanish |
| 21:56.12 | Wraithan | I have that reso on a comp at work, 30" monitor |
| 21:56.16 | VonhintenHOME` | 60"? DLP? |
| 21:56.21 | ckknight | I believe so, VonhintenHOME` |
| 21:56.23 | Wraithan | wish I could get it on a 40" screen |
| 21:56.25 | Gnarfoz | so? it's still not a TV |
| 21:56.50 | VonhintenHOME` | I thought about going DLP, you can't get LCD's that big typically (unless you want to spend a fortune)... |
| 21:57.01 | VonhintenHOME` | But, after comparing the two, LCD is just so much nicer imo |
| 21:57.29 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: the picture and contrast ratio seem fine to me, though I've yet to see it in my place yet |
| 21:57.30 | CIA-44 | 03ominous * r77640 10ClassTimer/ (embeds.xml options.lua): ClassTimer: Sorted externals |
| 21:57.35 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm gonna get a 52" LCD soon... not sure if I'm gonna shell out for the better 120Hz though |
| 21:57.41 | Gnarfoz | I wonder why rear-projection TVs just didn't really make it into the market over here |
| 21:57.59 | Arrowmaster | rear projections arent that good |
| 21:58.03 | Gnarfoz | 120 Hz is not 'better' :\ don't fall for marketing stuff :( |
| 21:58.06 | Arrowmaster | they burnin very easy |
| 21:58.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I have a 52" rear-projection in my living room, it's fucking gigantic and I'm tired of it |
| 21:58.26 | Arrowmaster | and lcd's dont have a 'Hz' |
| 21:58.28 | {RN}Terra | tired of it? |
| 21:58.31 | {RN}Terra | how? |
| 21:58.42 | VonhintenHOME` | It takes up too much floor space |
| 21:58.45 | durcyn | lcds have refresh rates that are measured in hertz, Arrowmaster |
| 21:58.59 | VonhintenHOME` | doesn't look as good as newer TV's, though it was a great TV back when I got it |
| 21:59.01 | Arrowmaster | the single has a refresh rate but the lcd doesnt |
| 21:59.05 | Gnarfoz | although that's idiotic and just to feed the stupid masses :\ |
| 21:59.37 | Gnarfoz | if it's on, it's on, if you change it's state, you change it. no need to do anything if a pixel's content doesn't change |
| 21:59.50 | VonhintenHOME` | They call it 120Hz, it's 4ms response time |
| 21:59.56 | Arrowmaster | lol TN panel |
| 21:59.58 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 21:59.59 | Arrowmaster | crap |
| 22:00.15 | Gnarfoz | overdrive ftw |
| 22:00.17 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 22:00.42 | Arrowmaster | unless lcdtv's use different panels than lcd monitors that would be a shitty TN panel |
| 22:00.49 | CIA-44 | 03ominous * r77641 10ClassTimer/libs/: ClassTimer: oops helps if i remember to set the property |
| 22:01.08 | VonhintenHOME` | All the extra 60Hz is doing is interpolating frames |
| 22:01.20 | VonhintenHOME` | but it should give the illusion of smoother movement |
| 22:01.30 | Arrowmaster | fuck overdrive |
| 22:01.42 | Arrowmaster | it causes 'reverse ghosting' |
| 22:01.51 | Gnarfoz | or rather, because it's interpolated: imaginative frames that weren't really there to begin with ;D |
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| 22:02.04 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: only if done badly |
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| 22:02.20 | VonhintenHOME` | well, it's not taking a fucking stroll in the park in it's "brain" it's using actual sources for the interpolation |
| 22:02.21 | Gnarfoz | sadly, many TFTs do it badly :\ |
| 22:02.49 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: heh, yeah, still. I guess it's the same debate as de-graining dvd releases of movies |
| 22:03.30 | Beutju | hm is there perhaps another addon than WIM, that opens tabs at the normal chat frame? i relly have no room for another frame :/ |
| 22:03.32 | Arrowmaster | if you want real quality, most of the lcd techs are bullshit and you want to stay away from them |
| 22:03.34 | VonhintenHOME` | I gotta believe its happening fast enough that the eye can't really notice a ghosting |
| 22:03.55 | Gnarfoz | that's already the case with 'normal' LCDs, though |
| 22:04.16 | Arrowmaster | im happy with my 15ms lcd |
| 22:04.21 | Arrowmaster | thats not g2g time |
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| 22:04.44 | Arrowmaster | actually it is since this lcd doesnt have overdrive |
| 22:04.52 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, that's true to a point, but, have you ever watched a TV that had "wobulation"? |
| 22:05.09 | Gnarfoz | nope, because I don't know what that's supposed to be :D |
| 22:05.21 | VonhintenHOME` | It looked great, unless you moved your head quickly and caught a glimpse of the RGB rainbow |
| 22:05.27 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 22:05.32 | Gnarfoz | DLP projector rainbow effect |
| 22:05.37 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah |
| 22:05.42 | Gnarfoz | "screen door" I think it's called in those circles |
| 22:05.58 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, different companies tossed out different terms |
| 22:06.04 | Gnarfoz | the only TVs in this household are old-style CRTs (20+ years, working fine, because, well, PAL did not change since its inception) |
| 22:06.25 | Arrowmaster | only ntsc CRTs here |
| 22:06.34 | Arrowmaster | largest is maybe 30" |
| 22:06.49 | Arrowmaster | actually its probably 26" or 28" |
| 22:07.06 | VonhintenHOME` | so, while you can't notice it normally because the older tech did it as well, those little moments where they fail could be lessened with something like frame interpolation at a higher rate |
| 22:07.40 | Gnarfoz | I don't know the specifics of the cause for it on LCDs, so I can't really further comment on that |
| 22:08.17 | NivFreak | I never see the rainbows on my DLP |
| 22:09.36 | Gnarfoz | they're there, though, but it's always been something not everyone has an issue with |
| 22:11.23 | VonhintenHOME` | I figure, I can get a TV now for under US$2000 and in a few years when OLED is around, upgrade again |
| 22:11.54 | VonhintenHOME` | This beast in my living room has served me well for 5 years or so |
| 22:12.07 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: in fact, very few people have issues with it |
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| 22:12.28 | NivFreak | other than the types of folks who get focused on things because they know about them :) |
| 22:12.31 | Gnarfoz | I dunno, when I walk into a store that has a room with several projectors, I see it on half of them oO |
| 22:12.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that, too |
| 22:13.18 | VonhintenHOME` | you have to know how to look for it... it's almost something you see in your periphial vision |
| 22:13.34 | Pkekyo| | "That's even worse, and even more disgusting...And thus hilarious!" |
| 22:14.10 | VonhintenHOME` | peripheral |
| 22:14.24 | NivFreak | I bought a DLP over plasma/LCD due to the black levels |
| 22:14.38 | NivFreak | my single complaint is viewing angle, which honestly isn't much of an issues |
| 22:14.40 | NivFreak | issue |
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| 22:15.02 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I was looking at the newer samsung LCD recently, they're using a different display that has much better black levels |
| 22:15.27 | NivFreak | I bought my DLP about 18 months ago |
| 22:16.32 | WhiteRabi | ok here we go |
| 22:16.46 | WhiteRabi | my ui now: http://www.gorillaworm.com/images/wowui.jpg |
| 22:17.14 | VonhintenHOME` | http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LN52A650-52-Inch-1080p-120Hz/dp/B001413DF8/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1214864167&sr=8-2 |
| 22:17.18 | profalber1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.46 | NivFreak | I see no ToT / Focus frames! ;) |
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| 22:20.05 | Aeyan | No UI is good UI |
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| 22:20.59 | NeoTron_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.10 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 22:21.21 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: re OLED: I'd rather have these SEDs that don't seem to make it to the market :( |
| 22:21.22 | VonhintenHOME` | You can get a DLP pretty damn cheap these days |
| 22:21.26 | NeoTron_ | because if I go LCD it'd be smaller (and doubly so when watching TV since it'd go from 4:3 to widescreen, making normal TV almost tiny) |
| 22:21.47 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: not 55-65" |
| 22:21.55 | NeoTron_ | they cost like $5k or so at least |
| 22:21.55 | WhiteRabi | profalber1 - that IS my ui, and thats the reason its awesome :) |
| 22:22.22 | profalber1 | WhiteRabi: right |
| 22:22.33 | WhiteRabi | btw, the ToT is actually above my hotbars but I wasnt targetting anything that had a target.. oops |
| 22:22.54 | profalber1 | I tried clearing up mine several times, but I cannot let go of anything in my UI right now |
| 22:22.59 | WhiteRabi | lol |
| 22:23.00 | WhiteRabi | fail |
| 22:23.01 | WhiteRabi | :) |
| 22:23.02 | VonhintenHOME` | Neo, http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HLT6187SAX-61-Inch-Engine-1080p/dp/B000N53TDM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1214864529&sr=1-6 |
| 22:23.22 | WhiteRabi | I think I may grab a HUD for my health and such as well as my enemies so I can get rid of those unit frames |
| 22:25.29 | VonhintenHOME` | Only US$2300, and that's brand spankin new, could probably do better on an older model at a local store, probably under 2k |
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| 22:26.28 | NeoTron_ | VonhintenHOME`: well translate my "rear projection" to "not flat screen" if you wish |
| 22:26.42 | NeoTron_ | point beign that flat screen TV's stop being 'affordable' around 50-52" |
| 22:26.48 | NeoTron_ | and to me that's pretty small |
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| 22:27.29 | NeoTron_ | I admit I am NOT up to speed with TV technology. I got my current one 7 years ago or so |
| 22:27.44 | NeoTron_ | but it's starting to get "lines of death" |
| 22:28.05 | VonhintenHOME` | I dunno, 61" for $2300 is pretty cheap imo, a few years ago it would have easily been 5k |
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| 22:28.38 | VonhintenHOME` | LCD's are dropping DLP and plasma prices down quite a bit |
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| 22:28.53 | NeoTron_ | yes that's pretty cheap |
| 22:28.56 | NeoTron_ | but it's not a flatscreen |
| 22:29.07 | NeoTron_ | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000N53TDM/sr=1-6/qid=1214864529/ref=dp_otherviews_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&img=3&qid=1214864529&sr=1-6 |
| 22:29.58 | VonhintenHOME` | by flatscreen, you mean thin |
| 22:30.27 | VonhintenHOME` | true, it's not thin like plasma or lcd |
| 22:30.34 | NeoTron_ | LCD, plasma wahtever |
| 22:30.48 | NeoTron_ | I initially said LCD vs rear projection |
| 22:31.05 | VonhintenHOME` | it is only just over a foot deep though |
| 22:31.12 | NeoTron_ | understood |
| 22:31.19 | NeoTron_ | that's another reason why I'm likely to go that way |
| 22:31.27 | NeoTron_ | much smaller than my current TV - or rather - smaller overhead |
| 22:31.57 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, my current beast is like 2.5 feet deep, if not 3ft |
| 22:32.04 | NeoTron_ | still would have to buy unit to put under it though, since we currently use the top of the TV as our stereo rack |
| 22:32.30 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I'm going to have that problem too.. i use the top of my TV for my center channel speaker, which is pretty heavy |
| 22:33.16 | NeoTron_ | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001413DWQ/ref=pd_luc_sbs_02_02 so this is 67" and it's less than the 61" by the same company. |
| 22:33.19 | NeoTron_ | curious |
| 22:33.39 | NeoTron_ | see I don't know what the differences are except that I want 1080p :P |
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| 22:33.59 | NeoTron_ | wtf does "3D gaming ready" mean? fast refresh rate? |
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| 22:36.06 | VonhintenHOME` | looks like the 61 is a smaller box, relatively |
| 22:36.28 | VonhintenHOME` | depth wise |
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| 22:38.15 | VonhintenHOME` | also has a smaller bezel |
| 22:38.49 | NeoTron_ | maybe an older generation too, hard to say. regardless I expect to get a new TV sometime late 2008 or early 2009 |
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| 22:52.34 | WhiteRabi | ckknight convinced me to use cartographer 3 :P |
| 22:52.46 | ckknight | victory! |
| 22:52.57 | WhiteRabi | it better not suck |
| 22:52.58 | CIA-44 | 03ominous * r77643 10ClassTimer/ (ClassTimer.lua Locales/enUS.lua options.lua): ClassTimer: added lock and enable option at the top of the ui |
| 22:53.00 | WhiteRabi | as bad as pitbull |
| 22:53.00 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: when you planning on releasing your compilation? |
| 22:53.01 | WhiteRabi | :) |
| 22:53.03 | WhiteRabi | lol jk |
| 22:53.08 | WhiteRabi | oh I have to release it!? |
| 22:53.09 | WhiteRabi | o.o |
| 22:53.10 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: I took a very different approach from PitBull |
| 22:53.12 | WhiteRabi | oh snap! |
| 22:53.15 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 22:53.18 | ckknight | no |
| 22:53.22 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:53.26 | ckknight | I thought that was implied |
| 22:53.30 | WhiteRabi | yeah I'll release it someday |
| 22:53.33 | ckknight | with you making a compilation and all |
| 22:53.38 | WhiteRabi | lol yeah |
| 22:54.03 | WhiteRabi | still not sure about the unit frames, currently just going to go with a hud until I actually mess with some UF enough to get it the way I want |
| 22:54.19 | WhiteRabi | I just added cartographer3 and auctioneer5 or something. |
| 22:54.53 | WhiteRabi | I think thats *about* it for now, dont think I need anything else |
| 22:54.59 | ckknight | Chinchilla! |
| 22:55.02 | WhiteRabi | NO :P |
| 22:55.06 | WhiteRabi | what is Chinchilla anyways? |
| 22:55.06 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:55.10 | ckknight | Minimap addon |
| 22:55.13 | WhiteRabi | ah |
| 22:55.39 | WhiteRabi | I think, I am going to remove the combat chat text all together, and just use mik's scrolling combat text, put the minimap in the lower right hand corner |
| 22:55.40 | Stanzilla | licks ckknight |
| 22:55.49 | ckknight | hey Stanzilla |
| 22:56.03 | Ackis | where's my lick?!?! |
| 22:56.10 | Stanzilla | *wave* |
| 22:56.10 | ckknight | licks Ackis |
| 22:56.14 | Ackis | yay! |
| 22:56.15 | WhiteRabi | !! |
| 22:56.17 | WhiteRabi | I WANT ONE! |
| 22:56.17 | Chompers | hey ckk |
| 22:56.22 | Chompers | having fun i see |
| 22:56.23 | Stanzilla | gives Ackis a dry-coded lick |
| 22:56.40 | WhiteRabi | One day I will get into UI development lol |
| 22:56.45 | Ackis | wow I need a kleenex now! |
| 22:56.51 | WhiteRabi | I am just a web dev o.o |
| 22:57.42 | Ackis | i really wnt to go shower and get a slurpee but I'm too lazy for both |
| 22:57.45 | ckknight | WhiteRabi: I do web dev stuff in my grown-up people job |
| 22:57.51 | ckknight | Chompers: hrm? |
| 22:58.03 | Chompers | With your friend here |
| 22:58.40 | ckknight | which friend |
| 22:58.41 | ckknight | ? |
| 22:58.45 | ckknight | everyone is my friend |
| 22:59.18 | Ackis | I like to think of myself as your lover ckknight |
| 22:59.32 | ckknight | sadly, no, already got me one of those |
| 22:59.42 | Ackis | who's the lucky guy? |
| 22:59.46 | ckknight | Chompers: I think you should defend your position |
| 22:59.47 | Chompers | yo |
| 22:59.59 | Chompers | oh, i mean WhiteRabi |
| 23:00.12 | Chompers | he seems quite friendly, adhd friendly |
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| 23:04.08 | Ackis | anyone know if there was an ingame item from WWI? |
| 23:04.54 | WhiteRabi | ok ckknight - I have to say that cartographer3 and chinchilla are indeed super-crazy-awesome |
| 23:05.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:05.56 | ckknight | glad you like me |
| 23:05.57 | ckknight | em* |
| 23:06.12 | ulic | like that slip was unintentional :) |
| 23:06.24 | ckknight | it was |
| 23:06.49 | ckknight | I want to get Waypoints done on Cart3 |
| 23:06.53 | ckknight | then I can release a new version |
| 23:08.17 | WhiteRabi | I like you too ckknight |
| 23:08.24 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:08.31 | WhiteRabi | Its hard to not like you... You are like a retarded puppy dog with only 3 legs |
| 23:08.39 | ckknight | ... |
| 23:08.40 | WhiteRabi | ... |
| 23:08.41 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 23:08.43 | ckknight | how? |
| 23:08.44 | Stanzilla | that fits! :P |
| 23:08.46 | WhiteRabi | rofl |
| 23:09.51 | WhiteRabi | sorry :P |
| 23:10.24 | ckknight | is confused now |
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| 23:10.39 | CIA-44 | Poppins: |
| 23:10.39 | CIA-44 | - Added missing LibKeyBound-1.0 external |
| 23:10.39 | CIA-44 | - Fixed inclusion point for LibSharedMedia-3.0 external |
| 23:12.51 | WhiteRabi | ckknight - 2 questions now :P |
| 23:12.57 | ckknight | shoot |
| 23:13.18 | WhiteRabi | is there a way to get rid of the heading above the minimap (ie: "The Bazaar" as well as the minimize/maximize button) |
| 23:13.40 | WhiteRabi | oh and could I get rid of the little bolt for the 'addon preferences' which may have nothing to do with your addon |
| 23:13.53 | WhiteRabi | this all of course for chinchilla lol |
| 23:16.35 | ckknight | yes, there is |
| 23:16.43 | WhiteRabi | ok got the bolt icon gone that wasnt chinchilla.. just need that "header" stuff gone :P |
| 23:16.48 | WhiteRabi | and the 'x' :P |
| 23:16.51 | ckknight | it's in the options. |
| 23:16.59 | ckknight | not sure where |
| 23:17.00 | ckknight | been a while |
| 23:17.04 | WhiteRabi | !!!!!!!!!!! |
| 23:17.09 | WhiteRabi | i'll go dig some more! |
| 23:17.58 | WhiteRabi | got it! |
| 23:18.01 | ckknight | you could move it off-screen ;-) |
| 23:18.02 | ckknight | oh? |
| 23:18.09 | WhiteRabi | found it :) |
| 23:18.26 | WhiteRabi | it was under "Location" |
| 23:18.29 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:18.30 | WhiteRabi | which I thought would be coordinates or whatever |
| 23:18.33 | WhiteRabi | but guess not :P |
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| 23:22.34 | Xelopheris | /use 22832 should use a mana pot, correct? |
| 23:22.43 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 23:23.11 | Gnarfoz | /use item:22832 will use whatever itemid 22832 is (so yes, a mana potion if that's what that is) |
| 23:23.26 | steev | [Liquidor]: pong |
| 23:23.38 | Gnarfoz | /use <number> is for slots |
| 23:24.06 | profalber1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.38 | Xelopheris | ah, k |
| 23:24.40 | Xelopheris | ty |
| 23:24.44 | Xelopheris | hope macro fits now >< |
| 23:25.10 | ckknight | I'm still confused on the feature list I should have for Cart3's waypoints |
| 23:25.11 | ckknight | :-( |
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| 23:25.37 | cladhaire | confused how? |
| 23:25.49 | ckknight | not sure what all I should put in it to be just enough but not moreso |
| 23:25.50 | ckknight | :-P |
| 23:25.55 | Xelopheris | wowow, 255/255 chars |
| 23:26.18 | cladhaire | ckknight: when i have a feeling like that, i don't include the feature |
| 23:26.20 | cladhaire | and make it another addon |
| 23:26.38 | ckknight | cladhaire: but like, I'm contemplating whether or not to have waypoint chains |
| 23:26.45 | ckknight | and the best way to describe them as a user |
| 23:27.04 | cladhaire | well thats entirely different, you said you were confused about the feature list |
| 23:27.04 | ckknight | I think Cart2's interface is kind of shoddy for that |
| 23:27.16 | NivFreak | are there any viable mage raid specs that actually use only arcane spells for nukes? |
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| 23:28.35 | ckknight | cladhaire: oh, also, I'm contemplating coming up with an addon-agnostic way to specify a waypoint |
| 23:28.47 | ckknight | so addons such as QuestHelper won't need individual code for TomTom, Cart2, Cart3, etc. |
| 23:29.06 | cladhaire | and who wins? |
| 23:29.12 | cladhaire | thats why its never been done before |
| 23:29.12 | ckknight | 3rd party devs? |
| 23:29.24 | cladhaire | no |
| 23:29.27 | ckknight | oh, and authors of new waypoint addons |
| 23:29.29 | cladhaire | they have cart3 and tomtom installed |
| 23:29.33 | ckknight | oh |
| 23:29.35 | cladhaire | who gets the waypoint? |
| 23:29.45 | cladhaire | thats just asking for a nighmare =/ |
| 23:29.47 | ckknight | I'd say TomTom, I'd make Cart3 disable its waypoint module in that case |
| 23:30.02 | ckknight | but really, it'd be whoever took control of _G.SetWaypoint last |
| 23:30.05 | ckknight | or what have you |
| 23:30.08 | cladhaire | that's taking the choice away from the user |
| 23:30.09 | cladhaire | which is bad |
| 23:30.11 | cladhaire | very bad |
| 23:30.22 | cladhaire | otherwise i would have pushed for something like this a while ago |
| 23:30.30 | ckknight | ...okay then |
| 23:30.44 | ckknight | how does the user choose now? |
| 23:30.48 | cladhaire | they disable cart_waypoints |
| 23:30.53 | cladhaire | or tomtom's waypoints feature |
| 23:31.03 | cladhaire | since cart includes so much |
| 23:31.08 | cladhaire | you kind of have to give them the choice |
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| 23:31.28 | cladhaire | imho |
| 23:31.57 | ckknight | they're going to disable the one they don't want anyway, so what's bad about having someting like _G.SetWaypoint? |
| 23:31.59 | ckknight | something* |
| 23:32.49 | cladhaire | well in lightheaded there's an option to send the waypoint to a specific place |
| 23:32.55 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:32.58 | cladhaire | so they can have tomtom handle their waypoints instead of cart |
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| 23:33.00 | CIA-44 | 03profalbert 07Parrot (newCombatLog) * r77645 10Parrot/: |
| 23:33.00 | CIA-44 | Parrot: |
| 23:33.00 | CIA-44 | - create branch with other (better?) combatlog-handling |
| 23:33.03 | cladhaire | but for another addon, they can use cart |
| 23:33.19 | ckknight | profalber1: feel free to tack your name on the authors list at this point |
| 23:33.47 | ckknight | cladhaire: eep, I couldn't handle more than one arrow on my screen at a time |
| 23:33.48 | profalber1 | ckknight, thx I'll do |
| 23:34.01 | cladhaire | waypoint ~= arrow |
| 23:34.32 | cladhaire | the arrow is something entirely different, and _you_ may not want two arrows on the screen |
| 23:35.05 | Aeyan | I'd argue that they're part of the same package. A waypoint without an arrow, or in line for the arrow, is just a note. =P |
| 23:35.15 | Aeyan | Though they may be two different objects |
| 23:35.21 | ckknight | the waypoint is the destination, the arrow points to the destination. Maybe I just have a flawed use case :-( |
| 23:35.34 | cladhaire | Aeyan: thats cart teminology and it doesn't apply to TomTom |
| 23:35.37 | cladhaire | so *shrug* |
| 23:35.40 | cladhaire | i guess thats my point |
| 23:35.45 | cladhaire | one-size fits all doesn't really work here. |
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| 23:37.14 | ckknight | see, I don't plan to have my waypoint system work for just fixed endpoints, I want the ability to have a moving endpoint or an endpoint already defined by another poi |
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| 23:37.20 | CIA-44 | FuBar_WhoRollFu: |
| 23:37.20 | CIA-44 | - fix nil error (the same roll can start twice) |
| 23:37.45 | cladhaire | okay, even more the reason |
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| 23:38.38 | ckknight | alright then |
| 23:38.43 | CIA-44 | 03profalbert 07Parrot (newCombatLog) * r77647 10Parrot/ (Code/CombatEvents.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua): |
| 23:38.43 | CIA-44 | Parrot: |
| 23:38.43 | CIA-44 | - data for all incoming events |
| 23:39.27 | WhiteRabi | hrm. I actually need buff bars and cast bars |
| 23:39.29 | cladhaire | ckknight: I definitely want to hear any ideas you have, so I can toss my $0.02 into the pot, if you're planning on making a "standard" |
| 23:39.39 | ckknight | cladhaire: I have a 3d arrow |
| 23:39.40 | ckknight | it's shiny. |
| 23:39.44 | ckknight | it spins |
| 23:39.45 | Orionshock | so you have a libSink version for waypointing?? |
| 23:39.47 | ckknight | whee! |
| 23:39.52 | WhiteRabi | A 3D ARROW!? OMGZ! |
| 23:39.52 | cladhaire | ok |
| 23:39.56 | WhiteRabi | I haz got to get me that! |
| 23:40.05 | ckknight | yea, that's my great improvement over cart2 |
| 23:40.08 | ckknight | thus far |
| 23:40.09 | cladhaire | guillotine gave one out a while ago |
| 23:40.12 | cladhaire | i decided not to use it |
| 23:40.15 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:40.18 | ckknight | why's that? |
| 23:40.20 | cladhaire | but i just think in this case, it'll be difficult to make something that really fills the users needs |
| 23:40.21 | WhiteRabi | btw.. chinchillas are awesome |
| 23:40.21 | cladhaire | coloring |
| 23:40.27 | ckknight | ah |
| 23:40.28 | ckknight | okay |
| 23:40.30 | cladhaire | the coloring on the model he provided is fucked |
| 23:40.34 | cladhaire | it just does not work well |
| 23:40.37 | WhiteRabi | they are the weirdest damn things though |
| 23:40.44 | ckknight | I want to simplify the way things work code-wise as well |
| 23:40.48 | cladhaire | and while the model looked shiny, the end result wasn't as nice as what we already ahve. |
| 23:40.50 | ckknight | and make the interface not suck quite so hard |
| 23:41.13 | ckknight | the waypoint is the last thing I need to do before I release Cart 3.0.6 |
| 23:41.55 | ckknight | I think for now I won't have chains |
| 23:42.00 | ckknight | but possibly have it on the books for later |
| 23:42.23 | WhiteRabi | ckknight - what is a good castbars mod? buffbars too |
| 23:42.32 | ckknight | hell, I dunno |
| 23:42.39 | WhiteRabi | God damn it man |
| 23:42.47 | WhiteRabi | >:| |
| 23:42.55 | ckknight | don't be pouty |
| 23:42.56 | WhiteRabi | angry eyebrows are upon you |
| 23:43.21 | Chompers | quartz |
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| 23:43.27 | Chompers | and ebbs |
| 23:43.34 | Chompers | elkanos buff bars* |
| 23:43.36 | WhiteRabi | ah okey, got them then |
| 23:43.49 | WhiteRabi | quartz was annoying me for a moment |
| 23:45.25 | Jygga | is there a way to automagically make cartographer quests get information on done quests? |
| 23:46.21 | ckknight | Jygga: quests you've already finished and turned in? |
| 23:46.46 | Chompers | like, tourguide? |
| 23:46.58 | Jygga | yep |
| 23:47.05 | Gnarfoz | there is no way to get what you want |
| 23:47.08 | Arrowmaster | not possible |
| 23:47.16 | Gnarfoz | not even GMs give out that info, sadly :( |
| 23:47.27 | NivFreak | yea, that's painful sometimes |
| 23:47.35 | Jygga | my map is cluttered with already done quests :) |
| 23:47.36 | NivFreak | when you drop a quest line mid chain |
| 23:47.51 | Gnarfoz | "hell I can't remember if I've already done that quest, can you tell me?" - "no, go figure out which quest you dropped or if it's simply not available to you" |
| 23:48.11 | Gnarfoz | (while it could possibly be not available for entirely different reasons at that moment) |
| 23:48.25 | Jygga | well i COULD right click and update manually (actually i have done that to several zones already ... |
| 23:48.26 | Arrowmaster | its worse when its a buggy quest and they wont help |
| 23:49.14 | Arrowmaster | my friend cant get the gnomer transporter quest on his 70 rogue (was 60 back when we tried it) and the GMs wouldnt help him at all |
| 23:49.41 | Jygga | drop engineer skill and try again? ^^ |
| 23:49.52 | Arrowmaster | hes not an engineer |
| 23:50.02 | Arrowmaster | and the quest has nothing to do with being an engineer |
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| 23:50.56 | Arrowmaster | its the only horde gnomer quests |
| 23:51.22 | Jygga | k then its kinda annoying |
| 23:52.54 | Jygga | i once got a quest reset for my shaman temple helmet, the bug was obvious tho (feathers dropped but i couldnt pick em up) |
| 23:53.33 | Jygga | the reset was not really what i wanted but the gm said its the only way ... |
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