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| 00:07.18 | NeoTron_ | oh noes, lost one of our top players/warlocks to "RL" |
| 00:07.21 | NeoTron_ | damn that RL |
| 00:09.26 | selckin | my guild is dieing from ppl getting fed up with emoness and hate betwean some members |
| 00:09.59 | NeoTron_ | we're not dying but we're down from 5 to 3 warlocks |
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| 00:10.13 | NeoTron_ | mind you we also picked up soem great hunters and mages to pick up DPS slacking |
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| 00:10.29 | selckin | hunters are nice, mages not so much |
| 00:10.29 | NeoTron_ | unfortunately oen of the remaining 3 warlock isnt' entirely reliable |
| 00:10.38 | NeoTron_ | when AOE is needed they are |
| 00:10.45 | NeoTron_ | depending on the AoE they pwn me so bad |
| 00:10.50 | NeoTron_ | or not |
| 00:10.52 | NeoTron_ | but it depends |
| 00:11.11 | selckin | we only have 2 mages |
| 00:11.17 | NeoTron_ | we have 4 |
| 00:11.18 | selckin | (they all quit) |
| 00:11.24 | sdouble | we have 73 moonkins |
| 00:11.25 | NeoTron_ | we lost all but 2 |
| 00:11.31 | NeoTron_ | that we only have one of |
| 00:11.35 | NeoTron_ | and one elemental shaman |
| 00:11.59 | NeoTron_ | with good enhance and resto gear (and skills) so he moonlights as alt specs at times |
| 00:12.04 | selckin | don't think we've ever stopped recruiting shamans |
| 00:12.14 | selckin | they just come and go every 5 min |
| 00:12.21 | NeoTron_ | hehe |
| 00:12.25 | NeoTron_ | know the feeling |
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| 00:12.28 | durcyn | average life expectancy of an alliance shaman is 2 weeks |
| 00:12.38 | NeoTron_ | we went from 2 resto, 2 ele, 1 enhance down to 1 resto, 1 ele |
| 00:12.40 | NeoTron_ | up to 5 resto |
| 00:12.44 | NeoTron_ | down to 2 again |
| 00:12.45 | NeoTron_ | etc |
| 00:12.54 | NeoTron_ | almost bizarre |
| 00:13.01 | selckin | indeed |
| 00:13.13 | NeoTron_ | recruited resto shaman in full t6 |
| 00:13.25 | NeoTron_ | he comes to 1 or 2 raids and then have a "change of work schedule" and disappears |
| 00:13.38 | NeoTron_ | granted he might be telling the truth but it might as well have been bewbs |
| 00:13.42 | NeoTron_ | (i.e AoC) |
| 00:14.14 | selckin | only our ppl that quit around tbc release are playing oac |
| 00:14.16 | selckin | its wierd :) |
| 00:15.48 | NeoTron_ | I suspect we'll start to see a few of the 'RL" departures coming back |
| 00:16.03 | NeoTron_ | we had one ele shammy that just recently popped back in. wouldn't surprise me if he plaeyd AoC and decided it wasn't good |
| 00:17.17 | selckin | i'm taking a break, got tired of listening to our MT tell everyone how much he hates everyone and we all suck etc :\ |
| 00:17.46 | NeoTron_ | man how the guildchanges. It went from "I should level my hunter so we have at least one reliable hunter, not huntard" to "hmm, great hunters, but now we need a warlock" |
| 00:18.01 | NeoTron_ | you play a warlock? :P |
| 00:18.16 | NeoTron_ | because in my guild we don't yell and cuss at people you see |
| 00:18.16 | Ackis | lol someone in my guild made a lolcat at my kitty: http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/7/3/conekittehwas128595966209280286.jpg |
| 00:18.22 | selckin | originally, but my paladin is the t6, nobody wanted my warlock :( |
| 00:18.57 | NeoTron_ | cats really know how to relax |
| 00:19.17 | NeoTron_ | despite being stuck in a cone of ridicule |
| 00:19.49 | Ackis | lol |
| 00:21.42 | selckin | some shaman is playing my paladin now, which is totally funny |
| 00:21.53 | selckin | and our warlock is playing our MT account, who quit aswel now |
| 00:22.02 | NeoTron_ | sounds solid |
| 00:22.13 | NeoTron_ | I'm happy we found some really great recruits |
| 00:22.25 | NeoTron_ | in fact all our recent recruits seem solod, although some are undergeared |
| 00:22.30 | selckin | one shotted brutallus i saw on wws, and then wiped 24 times on felmyst this week |
| 00:22.31 | selckin | :\ |
| 00:23.38 | NeoTron_ | as I said earleir, we wiped more on Kalecgos than on the next three combined |
| 00:23.42 | NeoTron_ | which was very sad |
| 00:23.43 | selckin | all kinds of silly setbacks stopped us from getting solid attempts on m'uru really |
| 00:23.55 | selckin | lol, don't even get me started on kalecgos :p |
| 00:24.09 | NeoTron_ | I dislike that fight so much |
| 00:24.22 | NeoTron_ | brutallus is kind of boring but felmyst and twins are tons of fun |
| 00:24.28 | NeoTron_ | even like muru better than kalecgos :) |
| 00:24.43 | selckin | as a healer i like everything except brutallus |
| 00:24.52 | selckin | i never want to see brut again |
| 00:25.48 | NeoTron_ | dual druid tanks makes brutallus nicer |
| 00:27.04 | selckin | the amount of times i've been yelled at by said MT for no good reason on that fight |
| 00:27.45 | NeoTron_ | I try not to yell but it is frustrating because 95% of the fails on that fight is due to healing |
| 00:27.51 | selckin | i so want his to heal for a week |
| 00:27.58 | NeoTron_ | well rather I rarely ever yell but try not to place blame |
| 00:28.21 | NeoTron_ | but this week he was one shotted so can't really complain there |
| 00:29.11 | selckin | took me 2 wipe nights to convince them we needed a shadow priest, thats the kind of love we get |
| 00:29.26 | NeoTron_ | we use two SPS |
| 00:29.31 | NeoTron_ | they are both for the healers (and mages) |
| 00:29.35 | NeoTron_ | locks get none |
| 00:29.42 | NeoTron_ | on brutallus |
| 00:29.56 | selckin | tank healers get a shaman? |
| 00:30.04 | NeoTron_ | the one night we had 3 SP's the locks in the "good group" (sp, ele sham, boomkin) did 2600 and 2450ish DPS |
| 00:30.16 | NeoTron_ | and me, 2450, did so bad solely due to <paperdoll crit rate |
| 00:30.36 | NeoTron_ | gain A LOT of dps from a SP in that fight (well in general) |
| 00:30.49 | selckin | yeah, not wasting gcd is good :) |
| 00:30.50 | NeoTron_ | more so since theer's never any time to pause for tapping |
| 00:31.02 | selckin | 2.4 is plenty anyway |
| 00:31.09 | NeoTron_ | felmyst, for example, pretty much is "burn all mana, then life tap while running" |
| 00:32.06 | selckin | its just 2-3 ppl who ruined the atmosphere really, kinda sad |
| 00:32.10 | selckin | took all the fun away |
| 00:32.44 | selckin | but can't really boot 2year+ members |
| 00:33.07 | selckin | so other ppl started leavign |
| 00:33.09 | NeoTron_ | you could.. if they tear the guild apart |
| 00:33.18 | NeoTron_ | first warn them |
| 00:33.24 | NeoTron_ | unless ofc they are the officers/GM.. |
| 00:33.45 | NeoTron_ | we really accept no drama making in Adrenaline, regardless how long you've been a member |
| 00:35.20 | NeoTron_ | the thing that frustrates me the most with this warlock leaving now si that he JUST got the shoulders of twins (yesterday in fact) and sunfire handwraps |
| 00:36.07 | selckin | yea, thats why i offered my account to play by anyone who wanted for raids when i announced my break |
| 00:36.09 | NeoTron_ | I can't believe that people go "oh I will quit raiding today" |
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| 00:36.28 | NeoTron_ | it's nothing you decide from one late night to the next day afternoon just like that |
| 00:37.06 | selckin | seems to have helped them allready when they had class inbalance |
| 00:37.22 | selckin | NeoTron_: more $$ on ebay! |
| 00:38.10 | NeoTron_ | don't think he's leaving. like he will remain to pvp etc |
| 00:38.20 | NeoTron_ | ironically this dude has two accounts, both with t6 warlocks |
| 00:38.33 | NeoTron_ | he took over someone elses account (like a cousin or similar) with better gear |
| 00:39.10 | Ackis | I got the staff off of KJ on Monday, and today I posted that I'm done raiding |
| 00:39.29 | selckin | reason for stopping? |
| 00:39.38 | Ackis | tired |
| 00:41.42 | NeoTron_ | Ackis: zomg /ebay |
| 00:42.16 | selckin | how much can you get these days? |
| 00:42.26 | selckin | i need a new computer! |
| 00:42.59 | NeoTron_ | dunno since ebay is pretty much cleared |
| 00:43.13 | selckin | yeah, not allowed anymre |
| 00:44.41 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77756 10StatBlocks_Folks/StatBlocks_Folks.lua: StatBlocks_Folks: The tooltip will now refresh if new data is given, this was needed due to the delay in requesting new data from the server, so the tooltip would show old data. |
| 00:52.26 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77757 10StatBlocks_TimeInFight/ (. StatBlocks_TimeInFight.lua): StatBlocks_TimeInFight: fix display showing numbers when changing options. |
| 00:54.52 | Dranor | there's still too much time for WotLK release and even farming sunwell is more fun than uh... arenas |
| 00:55.31 | Dranor | counter-striked wow is not pvp |
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| 01:01.52 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77758 10StatBlocks_Clock/StatBlocks_Clock.lua: StatBlocks_Clock: show date on mouseover, this is really basic and won't get any customization |
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| 01:20.11 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77759 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (11 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 01:20.11 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 01:20.11 | CIA-44 | - Updated PetAndMountDatabase builder, now has minimal riding skill to use on mounts after the speed, outputs the correct file format |
| 01:20.11 | CIA-44 | - IsInFlyableZone updated in prep for WotLK |
| 01:20.11 | CIA-44 | - fixed GetTextureFromListItem for inventory items |
| 01:20.14 | CIA-44 | - fixed button locking |
| 01:20.16 | CIA-44 | - new function in LibPetAndMountDatabase-1.1 to split a mount's data into speed and skill level |
| 01:21.15 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77760 10Baldrick/ (Baldrick.lua locals/localisation.lua): |
| 01:21.16 | CIA-44 | Baldrick: |
| 01:21.16 | CIA-44 | - Can be expanded by outside addons |
| 01:21.16 | CIA-44 | - Responds to Auto Hide option changing |
| 01:21.16 | CIA-44 | - Fixed cooldown not showing |
| 01:22.19 | Funkeh` | uh |
| 01:22.39 | Funkeh` | Im not sure how you can translate faction status differently for male and female character |
| 01:22.57 | Funkeh` | how would "hated" vary depending on your sex? Oo |
| 01:24.20 | sylvanaar | "Thinks you are a bitch" vs. "Thinks you are an asshole" |
| 01:24.26 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77761 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 01:24.26 | CIA-44 | MiniPet: |
| 01:24.26 | CIA-44 | - Removed unneeded dprint |
| 01:24.26 | CIA-44 | - Changed how toggle options are set |
| 01:24.26 | CIA-44 | - Changed PetAndMountDatabase lib instance to be a file local |
| 01:25.09 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77762 10Stable/Stable.lua: |
| 01:25.09 | CIA-44 | Stable: |
| 01:25.09 | CIA-44 | - Fixed Unchecking/checking a parent checking/unchecking the children |
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| 01:28.27 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77763 10Coconuts/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:28.27 | CIA-44 | Coconuts: |
| 01:28.27 | CIA-44 | - Will no longer suggest mounts that the player doesn't have the riding skill to use |
| 01:28.27 | CIA-44 | - Disable button when in combat |
| 01:28.27 | CIA-44 | - Tooltip when mounted will correctly show what modifier keys will let the player dismount |
| 01:29.14 | Funkeh` | sylvanaar, somehow I don't think blizzard would think about cuss words |
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| 01:30.11 | sylvanaar | heh |
| 01:31.49 | Funkeh` | I think we should blame Stanzilla it's probably some wierd german thing |
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| 01:31.59 | AbsoRayne | Hiya |
| 01:32.08 | AbsoRayne | I need some Dogtag help, if anyone has a moment. |
| 01:32.24 | Funkeh` | ~asktoask |
| 01:32.25 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
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| 01:32.50 | AbsoRayne | My current tags for HP is [MissingHP:Hide(0) (if IsMouseOver = "True" then MaxHP:Hide(100)end)] |
| 01:33.33 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: w00t? |
| 01:33.35 | AbsoRayne | But, I used to have it so the missing health would show up with a hyphen, also, Mouseover shows both the numbers next to each other instead of hiding the missing. |
| 01:33.47 | AbsoRayne | And just showing the max Hp |
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| 01:34.59 | AbsoRayne | Anyone? |
| 01:35.28 | Stanzilla | I bet Ellipsis knows |
| 01:37.16 | AbsoRayne | o.o |
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| 01:45.31 | qwesto | AbsoRayne, [if IsMouseOver then MaxHP:Hide(100) else -MissingHP:Hide(0) end] something like that? |
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| 01:45.38 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, something_status_hated = "Hated"; something_status_female_hated = "Hated" |
| 01:46.17 | Xinhuan | i think in russian, it would vary |
| 01:47.11 | Xinhuan | they have weird words |
| 01:48.06 | Xinhuan | like in English, you have he/she, but Chinese version doesn't distinguish between gender |
| 01:48.22 | Funkeh` | "it"? ;p |
| 01:51.03 | Yssaril | ~seen ckknight |
| 01:51.06 | purl | ckknight <n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 1d 2h 54m 10s ago, saying: 'yea, that seems best, sylvanaar'. |
| 01:52.21 | sylvanaar | that dinged me too |
| 01:53.14 | Yssaril | sry totaly unintentional :P |
| 01:56.46 | AbsoRayne | Hey, with RangeDisplay, how do I get the background with the numbers to go away? |
| 01:58.20 | CIA-44 | 03philosound * r77764 10Poppins/ (Buttons.lua Frames.lua): |
| 01:58.20 | CIA-44 | Poppins: |
| 01:58.20 | CIA-44 | - fix modifier-enter/leave |
| 01:59.13 | Dranor | Funkeh`: in spanish "hated" can vary if you are adessing to a man or a woman, odiado/odiada |
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| 02:03.06 | Dark_Elf | Voodoo Extreme passes on word that all players of World of Warcraft can register for a chance to participate in the Wrath of the Lich King beta by simply checking an option on their account management page. There's no word on when the beta will begin. |
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| 02:04.34 | sylvanaar | just use the hack i used for classes, put female in all caps, and convert your strings to uppercase if you are female before you look up the xlation |
| 02:07.10 | sylvanaar | and it works even easier in reverse |
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| 02:10.40 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77765 10/trunk/ (22 files in 22 dirs): .trunk: StatBlocks: Removing auto adjust as it conflicts with different alignments, adjust manually with the mousewheel. |
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| 02:12.38 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77766 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0/LibLordFarlander-UI-2.0.lua: |
| 02:12.38 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 02:12.38 | CIA-44 | - Fix for the alpha settings in the button options |
| 02:13.06 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77767 10Coconuts/Coconuts.lua: |
| 02:13.06 | CIA-44 | Coconuts: |
| 02:13.06 | CIA-44 | - Entering combat will trigger Auto Hide |
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| 02:30.15 | erikh | hey folks, is there a library out there that can manage a p2p messaging system similar to groupcalendar? |
| 02:31.07 | erikh | I have a couple of ideas for mods that could use the messaging system |
| 02:31.11 | erikh | if not i'll just write the library. |
| 02:31.54 | Arrowmaster | theres nexus which somebodys working on |
| 02:32.05 | Arrowmaster | but thats a really complex thing to do |
| 02:32.14 | Arrowmaster | which is why groupcalendar sucks so much |
| 02:32.50 | erikh | yeah, I understand the complexities, I just didn't want to waste my time on something NIH |
| 02:33.18 | erikh | i'll look at nexus |
| 02:33.27 | erikh | and thanks! |
| 02:56.14 | NivFreak | hrmm, they really have private wrath alpha servers up already? |
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| 03:05.49 | CIA-44 | 03hshh * r77768 10MobileVault/ (4 files in 2 dirs): MobileVault: add zhCN localization. move some english phrase to localization files. |
| 03:18.19 | CIA-44 | 03toadkiller * r77769 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:18.19 | CIA-44 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 03:18.19 | CIA-44 | - Midsummer snacks |
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| 03:25.06 | Diao | hmm |
| 03:25.17 | Diao | is my guild just incredibly lucky with stuff |
| 03:26.22 | Lukian | Diao you tell me |
| 03:26.26 | Diao | we've got like 50% drop rate on DST and eye of mag |
| 03:26.50 | Diao | and we've gotten so many mallet of the tides that we're giving them to rogues for fun |
| 03:27.07 | Tenchworks | o.O? |
| 03:27.21 | Tenchworks | my guild has never seen a DST |
| 03:27.26 | Diao | yeah we're 7/14 |
| 03:27.27 | Diao | for DSTs |
| 03:27.29 | Diao | on gruul kills |
| 03:27.31 | Diao | rofl |
| 03:27.47 | Tenchworks | i gave up on ever getting one |
| 03:27.55 | Diao | all our main rogues have one |
| 03:28.00 | Diao | i have one (i'm MT) |
| 03:28.15 | Diao | one of our enh sham, and our OT/dps warr each have one |
| 03:28.29 | Tenchworks | cries himself to sleep. |
| 03:29.07 | Aiiane | we've seen two |
| 03:29.16 | Aiiane | both have gone to warriors because no rogues showed up |
| 03:29.34 | Diao | warriors make just as good use of it anyway |
| 03:29.36 | Aiiane | (on those particular nights) |
| 03:29.38 | Diao | but i use it in my threat set lol |
| 03:29.46 | Diao | dst + shard for my tanking set when i'm going for max threat |
| 03:29.49 | Diao | shard of contempt* |
| 03:29.53 | Aiiane | and both warriors have quit the game |
| 03:30.08 | Diao | oh yeah.. one of our warriors quit that got DST |
| 03:30.11 | Diao | and he's playing a mage now |
| 03:30.13 | Diao | and got eye of mag |
| 03:30.15 | Diao | lol |
| 03:30.27 | Diao | i'm hoping this luck continues when we get to illidan |
| 03:30.33 | Diao | with skull of gul'dan and memento of tyrande |
| 03:30.47 | Aiiane | dunno, i prefer hex shrunken head over eye of mag on my lock :P |
| 03:31.05 | Diao | we don't do za as a guild really |
| 03:31.14 | Diao | we focus on 25 mans during raid days and it's hard to get a group for za |
| 03:31.16 | Diao | so people just pug it |
| 03:33.42 | Diao | but yeah, if we did za we'd probably have all our casters with HSH |
| 03:33.43 | Diao | lol |
| 03:33.51 | Diao | one thing we have zero luck with is shields though |
| 03:34.06 | Diao | in all our kills in 25 man raids from gruul to hyjal we have not seen a single shield drop |
| 03:34.06 | Diao | ever |
| 03:34.22 | Primer | Anyone a SL/SL lock? I'm pondering my spec, wondering why so many locks seem to put at least 1 point into mana feed |
| 03:34.33 | Primer | seems a bit useless to me |
| 03:35.02 | Aiiane | for endurance fights |
| 03:35.17 | Aiiane | so your felhunter can keep gobbling buffs |
| 03:35.18 | Primer | plus is the point in Shadow Embrace worth it too? |
| 03:35.26 | Aiiane | its a dispel buffer |
| 03:35.34 | Diao | yeah dispel buffer |
| 03:35.52 | Diao | you always put 1 point into the "useless" talents |
| 03:35.59 | Diao | if they provide a magic effect |
| 03:36.01 | Diao | for dispel buffering |
| 03:37.31 | Primer | I always thought it was for the extra affliction buff that'd make drain life drain more |
| 03:37.55 | Primer | I guess that's just a side benefit |
| 03:38.13 | Primer | So may I inspect your SL/SL toon? |
| 03:38.43 | Aiiane | on a side note, playing a prot pally in AV is amusing. |
| 03:39.22 | Primer | heh, I played 2's with a prot pally guildy, just for kicks |
| 03:39.30 | Primer | we ended up 3-7 |
| 03:39.33 | Aiiane | well |
| 03:39.40 | Aiiane | if some annoying ally doesn't come in and stun mean |
| 03:39.42 | Aiiane | *me |
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| 03:39.51 | Aiiane | I can tank Vann plus 2-3 marshals (with a healer or two) |
| 03:40.12 | Primer | it was pretty funny to see the opponents go for him first, only to find he was prot |
| 03:40.20 | Aiiane | heh |
| 03:40.30 | Aiiane | ive had rogues+warriors literally porcupine themselves to death on me |
| 03:40.35 | Primer | he was pretty sure he could take a rogue solely on ret aura damage :) |
| 03:40.43 | Aiiane | even after they've been beating on me for 30+ seconds w/o my health bar moving |
| 03:40.51 | Primer | hehe |
| 03:41.25 | Primer | I've decided to level my son's paly |
| 03:41.28 | Primer | as prot |
| 03:41.30 | Primer | hehe |
| 03:42.08 | Primer | my friend was telling me that was a stupid idea, but I contended that I'd be easier to get into instances (I don't like being run through instances) |
| 03:44.47 | Aiiane | 4 minutes into this AV and I'm killing the guards at Aid Station :D |
| 03:45.56 | Primer | what battlegroup? |
| 03:46.38 | Primer | I'm in rampage |
| 03:46.45 | Primer | Gorgonnash |
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| 03:51.11 | Primer | guess it's time to finally get gentoo off this box |
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| 03:54.21 | Kappaccino | oh this is the best :D http://www.break.com/index/it-guy-vs-dumb-employees.html |
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| 04:01.01 | Aiiane | seen it, old news |
| 04:01.47 | Kappaccino | hands Aiiane a banana. |
| 04:02.52 | Aiiane | uses lessons learned from monty python to defend herself from Kappaccino |
| 04:03.04 | Aiiane | forces Kappaccino to drop the banana |
| 04:03.09 | Aiiane | shoots Kappaccino |
| 04:03.24 | Kappaccino | uses vanish. |
| 04:03.43 | Aiiane | Corpses can vanish? Handy. |
| 04:04.00 | Kappaccino | distracts Aiiane, then places banana in Aiiane's anus. |
| 04:04.15 | Olison | Mhm! |
| 04:04.35 | Kappaccino | Banana crits Aiiane for 9999. |
| 04:05.40 | Aiiane | ....o.O |
| 04:06.00 | Aiiane | um, no thanks |
| 04:06.25 | Kappaccino | now to collect underpants for profit |
| 04:10.25 | Funkeh` | um |
| 04:10.29 | Funkeh` | o..k |
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| 06:35.59 | Fisker- | amirite? |
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| 07:09.08 | Diao | anyone know how guilds create guild names with "invalid" characters? |
| 07:11.00 | Fisker- | as far as i know they've been made before Blizzard made proper protection for them |
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| 07:12.30 | clad|sleep | there is nothing to stop you from making a character with high ascii, or guild |
| 07:12.42 | cladhaire | only the retroactive enforcement |
| 07:12.59 | cladhaire | as far as I'm aware. Something to do with the same client being used for both US and EU |
| 07:13.26 | Fisker- | it's not the same client |
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| 07:13.32 | cladhaire | Yes, I'm aware. |
| 07:13.37 | cladhaire | I'm giving you THEIR response. |
| 07:13.41 | Fisker- | baww |
| 07:13.47 | Diao | ah |
| 07:13.52 | Fisker- | i'm not thinking that is what he means with "invalid" characters |
| 07:13.59 | cladhaire | what does he mean then? |
| 07:14.31 | Diao | invalid characters like punctuation |
| 07:14.38 | Diao | i've seen a couple guilds around with it |
| 07:15.08 | cladhaire | yeah dunno |
| 07:15.26 | cladhaire | could be either of the two explanations :P |
| 07:15.27 | Diao | ascii chars i can understand |
| 07:15.41 | Fisker- | it's because they predate when it was made restricted |
| 07:15.48 | Diao | ah |
| 07:15.52 | Diao | when did they restrict it o_o |
| 07:15.52 | Fisker- | In the start you could even make newlines in your guildname |
| 07:15.56 | Fisker- | i don't know that |
| 07:16.03 | cladhaire | that was amusing :P |
| 07:16.06 | Diao | lol |
| 07:16.09 | Diao | how boring |
| 07:16.12 | Diao | take out the fun :( |
| 07:16.18 | Diao | i wanted to make a more creative guild name |
| 07:16.31 | Fisker- | Anyways Blizzard doesn't go out and remove all the guild names that are "invalid", they just prevent new ones from being made |
| 07:16.48 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:18.59 | Fisker- | http://www.simod.com/index.php?pid=news <-holy shit it's back |
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| 07:52.45 | nevcairiel | morning |
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| 08:45.44 | Zpredator[AUS] | anyone using henge ^-^ |
| 08:46.12 | cnc|work | Zpredator[AUS]: whats that ? |
| 08:47.33 | Zpredator[AUS] | its outdated nvm == |
| 08:47.52 | Zpredator[AUS] | well this is all ace mirc so im going to shooy my question out to you all. |
| 08:48.20 | Zpredator[AUS] | http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/2761/wowscrnshot070408160332js0.jpg |
| 08:48.49 | Zpredator[AUS] | dont read the chat i was in a fail pug scrubbish group |
| 08:49.48 | Kuosi | non widescreens make my eyes burn =( |
| 08:49.54 | cnc|work | you are asking me how your interface shld look ? :o |
| 08:49.55 | Zpredator[AUS] | yes i know |
| 08:49.57 | cnc|work | make an interface you like tbh |
| 08:49.58 | Zpredator[AUS] | im going to cry also |
| 08:50.13 | Kuosi | so hard to fit stuff in it |
| 08:50.18 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh i know |
| 08:50.20 | Kalroth | oomkin! |
| 08:50.23 | Kuosi | but one tip I could give |
| 08:50.24 | Zpredator[AUS] | MAGE!! |
| 08:50.27 | cnc|work | if you want my oppinion though |
| 08:50.31 | cnc|work | WAY too much garbage in there |
| 08:50.44 | Kuosi | do you rly need to see the action buttons for the skills that dont have cooldown? |
| 08:50.53 | Kuosi | hiding those buttons would save a lot of space |
| 08:50.58 | Zpredator[AUS] | example? |
| 08:51.08 | Zpredator[AUS] | oh forms |
| 08:51.17 | Kuosi | forms,lifebloom, etc |
| 08:51.19 | Zpredator[AUS] | your suggesting key bindings? |
| 08:51.25 | Kuosi | well yes? oo |
| 08:51.33 | Zpredator[AUS] | yawn so hard to remember |
| 08:51.45 | cnc|work | make smaller buttons then |
| 08:51.52 | cnc|work | I would suggest screwing those buttons at the side |
| 08:51.56 | cnc|work | and putting smaller buttons at the bottom |
| 08:52.02 | cnc|work | I'd also scrap the dmgmeter |
| 08:52.09 | Zpredator[AUS] | :O |
| 08:52.12 | cnc|work | and that combatlog |
| 08:52.25 | Zpredator[AUS] | ohh no'ss |
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| 08:52.55 | Zpredator[AUS] | lol i put my omen in there to |
| 08:52.57 | Kuosi | I have my recount hided as default |
| 08:53.05 | Kuosi | just pop it out when you want to check something |
| 08:53.10 | Zpredator[AUS] | i just really dont know what to do with the action bar on the side |
| 08:53.23 | Zpredator[AUS] | and grid |
| 08:53.39 | cnc|work | scrap grid if ur no healer |
| 08:53.55 | Kuosi | grid doesnt take much space anyway |
| 08:54.02 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh, but one way or another i need to b heal sometimes |
| 08:54.14 | Zpredator[AUS] | im using clique so it helps to buff and dispel |
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| 08:54.46 | cnc|work | at least get rid of that dmgmeter |
| 08:54.48 | cnc|work | and that combatlog |
| 08:54.50 | Zpredator[AUS] | what keys do you usually keybind spells to Kuo? |
| 08:54.54 | cnc|work | you can hide then and show them when they're needed |
| 08:55.07 | cnc|work | my whole keyboard are bindings :p |
| 08:55.07 | Lukian | cnc|work> at least get rid of that dmgmeter |
| 08:55.08 | Lukian | <cnc|work> and that combatlog |
| 08:55.11 | Kuosi | like |
| 08:55.23 | Kuosi | move eavesdrop higher a bit, lose the panels/backround from it |
| 08:55.24 | Zpredator[AUS] | okay ive hidden recount |
| 08:55.26 | nevcairiel | i have everything around the wsad block bound |
| 08:55.29 | Lukian | could just move the chat window down, put the bars on top of each other and put those 1-2 on the right side. |
| 08:55.44 | nevcairiel | qertfgh and 1-5 |
| 08:55.52 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh but chat would look ridiculously small |
| 08:55.58 | cnc|work | put ur minimap where ur combatlog was |
| 08:56.05 | Zpredator[AUS] | good idea |
| 08:56.13 | Kuosi | you could also do like |
| 08:56.17 | cnc|work | get rid of those damn big buttons that your using and get some smaller ones |
| 08:56.23 | Kuosi | move the actionbar you have atm in the mid |
| 08:56.26 | Kuosi | to bottom left |
| 08:56.33 | Kuosi | put chat above it |
| 08:56.33 | Lukian | Zpredator[AUS], not if you stack the actionbars. |
| 08:56.49 | Kuosi | cut some width from those unitframes |
| 08:56.51 | Zpredator[AUS] | oo |
| 08:56.54 | Kuosi | they look way too big for ur res anyway |
| 08:57.10 | Zpredator[AUS] | UI scale? down even more? |
| 08:57.17 | cnc|work | UI scale WAY down imo |
| 08:57.27 | Kuosi | 0.63 is a good start :P |
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| 08:57.33 | Lukian | ui scale should be as low as you can still read stuff :p |
| 08:57.44 | cnc|work | I have a 1600x1200 21" monitor at home and its at the minimum:p |
| 08:57.56 | nevcairiel | widescreen ftw! |
| 08:57.57 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 08:58.04 | Kuosi | 1440x900, 19" wide and minim scale here |
| 08:58.04 | cnc|work | an UI shown in combat should not have ANY information you don't need in combat btw |
| 08:58.06 | nevcairiel | 1680x1050 is so nice |
| 08:58.08 | Zpredator[AUS] | my screen is repulsive. |
| 08:58.12 | cnc|work | get rid of everything ur only reading out of combat |
| 08:58.13 | Zpredator[AUS] | i cant look at it. |
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| 08:59.00 | Kuosi | but basically ditching recount+combat log would free some space to play around with |
| 08:59.14 | Kuosi | scale down the unitframes+actionbars and stuff should already fit in much better |
| 08:59.17 | Lukian | and stacking all your actionbars ^_^ |
| 08:59.38 | Zpredator[AUS] | anything for grid? |
| 08:59.44 | Zpredator[AUS] | just leave it float around? |
| 08:59.51 | cnc|work | I'd scrap it if ur not healing fulltime |
| 09:00.09 | Zpredator[AUS] | no id like to keep it |
| 09:00.18 | Zpredator[AUS] | but. |
| 09:00.25 | cnc|work | then make it small and put it in a corner :) |
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| 09:00.45 | Zpredator[AUS] | http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7080/wowscrnshot070408170126ow5.jpg |
| 09:00.49 | Kuosi | it is already small :o |
| 09:00.50 | Zpredator[AUS] | thats what it looks like in raid |
| 09:00.51 | ramoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:01.13 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh still be kind of annoying having it there |
| 09:01.21 | ramoz | mm |
| 09:01.21 | Kuosi | err |
| 09:01.25 | Kuosi | why do you have both |
| 09:01.29 | Kuosi | pitbull raidframes and grid |
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| 09:01.33 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh LOL |
| 09:01.36 | Zpredator[AUS] | i know |
| 09:01.42 | Kuosi | hide pitbull |
| 09:01.43 | ramoz | i have the same, but they're smaller and faded out |
| 09:01.44 | Kuosi | place grid there |
| 09:02.00 | Zpredator[AUS] | alright |
| 09:02.01 | ramoz | also, how about making the tooltip anchored to your mouse? |
| 09:02.11 | Zpredator[AUS] | this is Caiths UI if anyone is wondering |
| 09:02.14 | nevcairiel | personally i hate that ;) |
| 09:02.17 | Kuosi | from experience it gets in the way =( |
| 09:02.22 | Kuosi | having tt on mouse |
| 09:02.22 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh |
| 09:02.25 | cnc|work | <insert any person here>'s UI sucks |
| 09:02.30 | sdouble | yeah, I can't stand it on the mouse |
| 09:02.39 | cnc|work | I can't stand it not on the mouse |
| 09:02.40 | ktwo | what buff addon is that |
| 09:02.45 | Zpredator[AUS] | buffalo |
| 09:02.46 | cnc|work | I just disable the tooltip of stuff I know |
| 09:02.47 | ramoz | what cnc|work said |
| 09:02.52 | Zpredator[AUS] | i was using SBF before |
| 09:03.16 | ramoz | oh, and the minimap is taking up alot of space |
| 09:03.16 | Zpredator[AUS] | okay im removing pitbull raid frames |
| 09:03.28 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh scale it down? |
| 09:03.51 | ramoz | yeah, either the whole IU scale or just the minimap |
| 09:04.41 | ramoz | in my opinion the unitframes are too big aswell |
| 09:05.00 | Kuosi | definetly too big |
| 09:05.25 | ramoz | i dont like them in that size? :O |
| 09:05.27 | cnc|work | everything is too big :p |
| 09:06.05 | Kuosi | basically you are using a ready made ui that is made to fit 1440x900 wide res and minimal ui scale |
| 09:06.13 | Kuosi | so everything will be huge on your screen |
| 09:06.36 | Kuosi | not 100% sure about caith's res but iirc its something like that |
| 09:06.51 | cnc|work | tbh |
| 09:06.55 | cnc|work | don't use ready made UIs :( |
| 09:07.05 | cnc|work | they spoil the fun of UI making |
| 09:07.15 | ramoz | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw12276.jpg |
| 09:07.24 | ramoz | "right" size for unitframes imo |
| 09:07.42 | Kuosi | cnc|work: ye and then again they _can_ save time for lazy ppl |
| 09:08.00 | Kuosi | for some they actually take more time to make em fit for their screen rather than building one from scrap |
| 09:08.01 | cnc|work | don't be lazy if you want a decent UI :D |
| 09:08.14 | cnc|work | I think thats the case here Kuosi |
| 09:08.25 | Kuosi | yup |
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| 09:09.02 | Kuosi | fitting widescreen ui to nonwide while wanting to keep the same layout usually just doesnt work |
| 09:09.09 | synthetic | god dc QQ |
| 09:09.14 | Kuosi | unless you have like 30inc screen ofc |
| 09:09.15 | synthetic | << Zpredator |
| 09:09.53 | sdouble | haha |
| 09:10.32 | Lukian | hmm I seem to have forgotten the name of the Minimap addon which "tidies up" all the buttons attached to it |
| 09:10.44 | synthetic | deatach minimap buttons? |
| 09:10.50 | synthetic | something along the lines of it. |
| 09:11.15 | Kuosi | detached minimap buttons is one |
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| 09:11.17 | cnc|work | Lukian: minimapbuttonbag , |
| 09:11.26 | cnc|work | I just hide all minimap buttons personaly |
| 09:11.30 | synthetic | i use fubar personally |
| 09:11.36 | Kuosi | i have minimapbuttonbag myself |
| 09:11.45 | Lukian | I've stopped loading rock while raiding |
| 09:11.49 | Lukian | so fubar isn't an option |
| 09:11.51 | synthetic | one last thing, for auction. is there any ace alterantive to Auctioneer? |
| 09:11.58 | Kuosi | afaik no |
| 09:12.23 | Kuosi | I personally only run auctioneer on my bank char |
| 09:12.47 | synthetic | lol im still using quest helper QQ |
| 09:13.02 | Kuosi | btw regarding minimap buttons, I use mbb but have no idea where to place that one button :o |
| 09:13.30 | Kuosi | looks stupid no mather where I place it =( |
| 09:13.44 | nevcairiel | hide it too |
| 09:14.18 | synthetic | does anyone use jWoWUpdater? |
| 09:14.21 | Kuosi | it needs fadeout unless mouseover imo =( |
| 09:15.11 | cnc|work | I do synthetic |
| 09:15.21 | Kuosi | If I could find sufficient way to use ora2 I could ditch all minimap buttons but atm no clue how =( |
| 09:15.28 | Kuosi | only using buttons for ora and closetgnome |
| 09:15.45 | Kuosi | outfits could be keybinded to numpad or smt but ora is tricky to deal w/o |
| 09:15.57 | cnc|work | right click the button |
| 09:16.01 | cnc|work | and disable the fubar plugin |
| 09:16.24 | nevcairiel | slash commands for ora are crazy to use, hehe |
| 09:16.27 | Lukian | I'm pretty sure it wasn't MBB |
| 09:16.33 | synthetic | what does ora2 do exactlly? |
| 09:16.43 | Lukian | it would show the buttons below the minimap, on mouseover iirc? |
| 09:16.58 | Kuosi | nevcairiel: they are not very good =( |
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| 09:17.52 | Kuosi | http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=currentuiwr2.jpg |
| 09:18.14 | Kuosi | mayb I could swap the minimapbuttonborders to nonexistant and place the mbb inside the minimap |
| 09:18.40 | synthetic | is that texture Hal G? |
| 09:19.07 | ktwo | how did you make the "V" monster life-bar that way? |
| 09:19.11 | Kuosi | synthetic: pretty sure it aint |
| 09:19.21 | Kuosi | but its hals yes |
| 09:19.31 | synthetic | Aloft |
| 09:19.37 | Kuosi | yes thats aloft |
| 09:19.41 | cnc|work | so much actionbuttons |
| 09:19.53 | synthetic | hehe i like your damage font to. |
| 09:19.56 | cnc|work | the only reason i use actionbuttons on my druid is I can't remember all the different bindings in different forms :p |
| 09:20.32 | synthetic | what spec is your druid? |
| 09:20.45 | Kuosi | cnc|work: ye I know I could ditch all actionbuttons that dont have a cd |
| 09:20.51 | Kuosi | just too lazy to redo bars :P |
| 09:21.07 | Kuosi | as they rly don't take THAT much space |
| 09:21.17 | synthetic | okay this might sound rookie but. |
| 09:21.32 | synthetic | do i steer with my mouse and have key bindings on spells 1-8 |
| 09:21.44 | synthetic | on my keyboard |
| 09:21.47 | vithos | Kuosi, whats that bold pixel font? i like it |
| 09:22.02 | synthetic | i think i have that |
| 09:22.07 | synthetic | ill have a look vith |
| 09:22.09 | Kuosi | vithos: which frames? |
| 09:22.10 | cnc|work | synthetic: whatever you like the most tbh |
| 09:22.25 | Kuosi | there's quite a few different fonts there as I'm still trying to decide which i like the best |
| 09:22.26 | vithos | on s&d and cheap shot timer bars |
| 09:22.30 | Kuosi | classtimer |
| 09:22.32 | Kuosi | hum |
| 09:22.34 | Kuosi | i can check |
| 09:24.01 | vithos | oh and the one you're using for omnicc looks nice too |
| 09:24.22 | Kuosi | omnicc is very tricky with pixelfonts |
| 09:24.36 | synthetic | eww omniCC? |
| 09:24.45 | Kuosi | if you use different font sizes for different cd durations =( |
| 09:24.54 | vithos | or cooldowncount, whichever |
| 09:25.06 | Kuosi | its omnicc |
| 09:25.07 | synthetic | better == |
| 09:25.08 | vithos | actually i guess that is omnicc |
| 09:25.15 | Kuosi | font is BMSLA |
| 09:25.16 | vithos | m:ss format |
| 09:25.41 | vithos | hmm |
| 09:26.04 | Kuosi | classtimer font is "nokia" |
| 09:26.15 | synthetic | Kuo is that bar abover your player pitbull frame "swing"? |
| 09:26.36 | Kuosi | no thats energywatch :P |
| 09:26.40 | Kuosi | and those are aguf |
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| 09:27.27 | synthetic | when expansion comes we can all re-do our UI's together |
| 09:27.32 | synthetic | :)) |
| 09:30.21 | Kuosi | unitframe font is visitor |
| 09:30.38 | Kuosi | gonna swap that to classtimer/omnicc too next time I'm home |
| 09:30.49 | Kuosi | if size fits that is |
| 09:34.52 | Kuosi | but aaanyway |
| 09:34.57 | Kuosi | where to place that mbb =( |
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| 09:41.09 | synthetic | ora2 acts as a raid assist? |
| 09:41.23 | synthetic | it assigns targets and members of the raid..? |
| 09:42.52 | Kuosi | yes |
| 09:42.58 | Kuosi | thats what I use it for |
| 09:43.57 | synthetic | okay |
| 09:44.09 | synthetic | god shat is such an annoying place to configure your addons |
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| 09:44.30 | synthetic | npc's cry, laigh rinse repeat.. |
| 09:44.33 | synthetic | laugh* |
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| 09:47.39 | ktwo | how can i change aloft texture? theres only "blizzard" available |
| 09:47.56 | Arrowmaster | install SharedMedia? |
| 09:48.55 | ktwo | ah ok thx |
| 09:48.57 | synthetic | yeh get shared media |
| 09:49.01 | synthetic | and all the libs for it |
| 09:49.02 | synthetic | also |
| 09:49.08 | Arrowmaster | you dont need the libs |
| 09:49.10 | synthetic | you'll want to get Hal's textures |
| 09:49.16 | synthetic | you dont? |
| 09:49.18 | Arrowmaster | you should already have them if you need them |
| 09:50.12 | ktwo | do i need LibSharedMedia2.0 / 3.0 or SharedMediaLib or both? |
| 09:50.12 | Arrowmaster | none |
| 09:50.12 | Arrowmaster | youll already have them |
| 09:50.13 | ktwo | kk |
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| 09:53.16 | ktwo | and which are hal's textures? |
| 09:53.53 | synthetic | um |
| 09:54.00 | synthetic | check hal's UI on wow interface |
| 09:54.03 | Kuosi | http://www.ryanmast.tv/Hal_Textures.zip |
| 09:54.28 | ktwo | ty |
| 09:54.53 | Kuosi | those go to \SharedMedia\MyMedia\Statusbar |
| 09:55.11 | Kuosi | then you need to edit the MyMedia.lua |
| 09:55.21 | Arrowmaster | you mean create the MyMedia.lua |
| 09:56.01 | ktwo | there was one in that archive |
| 09:56.14 | cnc|work | is bored |
| 09:56.43 | Kuosi | afaik its there as default Arrowmaster |
| 09:56.57 | Arrowmaster | umm |
| 09:57.03 | Arrowmaster | that mymedia.lua is total fail |
| 09:57.05 | Arrowmaster | dont use it |
| 09:57.11 | Kuosi | why is that |
| 09:57.11 | Arrowmaster | it wont even work |
| 09:57.15 | Kuosi | does? |
| 09:57.16 | Arrowmaster | because its wrong |
| 09:57.19 | Arrowmaster | completely wrong |
| 09:57.40 | Kuosi | and why is that |
| 09:57.44 | Kuosi | works perfectly for me |
| 09:57.45 | nevcairiel | my SharedMedia didnt come with a MyMedia |
| 09:57.48 | Arrowmaster | because its wrong |
| 09:57.57 | Arrowmaster | ITS 100% WRONG |
| 09:58.09 | synthetic | silly huntard |
| 09:58.35 | ktwo | well it seems to work with aloft |
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| 09:58.52 | ktwo | ... i cant decide what texture to use.. i like many of them lol |
| 09:59.01 | Arrowmaster | thats because aloft uses libsharedmedia-2.0 |
| 09:59.04 | synthetic | hehe i like Hal C |
| 09:59.09 | synthetic | hal I also has i nice look |
| 09:59.10 | Arrowmaster | which imports from sharedmedialib |
| 09:59.23 | synthetic | finally i removed the action bar on the side |
| 09:59.34 | Arrowmaster | but that mymedia file doesnt work at all with sharedmedia and libsharedmedia-3.0 |
| 09:59.35 | synthetic | now to pvp to remember the bindings |
| 10:00.02 | Arrowmaster | is that a 'semi-official' download of the hal textures? |
| 10:00.14 | Kuosi | thats posted by hal himself |
| 10:00.21 | Arrowmaster | no wonder.... |
| 10:00.47 | Arrowmaster | was wondering why people constantly come to the wowace forums with completely wrong MyMedia.lua's and ask why it doesnt work |
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| 10:01.00 | Kuosi | what does that have to do with it =( |
| 10:01.08 | Arrowmaster | its wrong |
| 10:01.09 | Kuosi | that zip file only has the textures and no sharedmedia crap |
| 10:01.14 | Arrowmaster | yes it does |
| 10:01.15 | Kuosi | so how is that related |
| 10:01.36 | Arrowmaster | it has a MyMedia.lua and tells people to copy it into SharedMedia |
| 10:01.39 | Kuosi | oh |
| 10:01.42 | ktwo | how can i get rid of that "ability is not ready" red text ? |
| 10:01.42 | Kuosi | it actually has |
| 10:01.44 | Kuosi | hum |
| 10:02.54 | cnc|work | ErrorFrame:Clear(); |
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| 10:03.52 | Kuosi | Arrowmaster: im pretty sure the lua file that comes along with those hals textures wont work |
| 10:04.04 | Kuosi | local SML = AceLibrary:HasInstance("SharedMedia-1.0") and AceLibrary("SharedMedia-1.0") or nil |
| 10:04.07 | Arrowmaster | im 100% sure it wont work properly |
| 10:04.17 | Kuosi | its old zip anyway |
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| 10:09.05 | Kuosi | heh t.t |
| 10:09.27 | Kuosi | only now I realise you were refering to the mymedia.lua that comes along with that hal package |
| 10:09.40 | Kuosi | should not try to multitask =( |
| 10:15.38 | theoddone33 | wowhead seems pretty broken |
| 10:15.40 | theoddone33 | or my browser is |
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| 10:17.07 | Kuosi | seems to work for me |
| 10:19.24 | Arrowmaster | for those wanting to use Hals textures in SharedMedia -> http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6063.msg227582#msg227582 |
| 10:19.41 | Arrowmaster | see the end of the post |
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| 10:25.23 | vithos | blarg, anyone know what would cause WUU to not be able to access the zips it downloads when trying to install new things? |
| 10:25.41 | cnc|work | running windows failsta |
| 10:25.47 | vithos | i run xp |
| 10:26.07 | cnc|work | dunno then |
| 10:26.52 | vithos | and now it's randomly working again |
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| 10:29.20 | Wraithan | Hey all |
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| 10:51.38 | ktwo | im thinking about if 0/20/41 would make life against warriors easier as a rogue.... do u think its a good spec for arena (especially 2v2) instead of 20/0/41? |
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| 10:51.57 | cnc|work | I'd say no |
| 10:52.00 | Kuosi | no :( |
| 10:52.05 | cnc|work | early assa is great for pretty much everything |
| 10:52.12 | cnc|work | also gives free energy |
| 10:52.25 | cnc|work | it'd be good against warriors, but worse against about everything else I think |
| 10:52.29 | ktwo | hm.. ok.. so riposte isnt worth the points? |
| 10:52.31 | ktwo | kk |
| 10:52.41 | cnc|work | you lose 5% crit, crit dmg, and gain reposte |
| 10:52.44 | cnc|work | lose situation imop |
| 10:52.45 | Kuosi | 11points in assa is about the same dmg you get from combat for 20points, in pvp its even better as your low on hit |
| 10:52.49 | Kuosi | + you get poison talents |
| 10:52.56 | Kuosi | and imp ea if wish so |
| 10:52.57 | zipper | Anyone know if there is a wowace'd and maybe even up-to-date "Party cooldowns"-addon like this one: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8258-PartyAbilityBars.html ? |
| 10:53.09 | cnc|work | ~shoot zipper |
| 10:53.09 | purl | ACTION shoots zipper in the ear with a phase pistol! |
| 10:53.15 | zipper | aww =/ |
| 10:53.28 | Kuosi | zipper: whats wrong with that one? |
| 10:53.29 | zipper | i liked that ear |
| 10:53.30 | Kuosi | works for me still |
| 10:53.45 | cnc|work | thats why i shot him Kuosi |
| 10:53.46 | zipper | Kuosi, it doesnt work with pet spells like spelllock |
| 10:53.58 | Kuosi | im rather positive it does |
| 10:54.05 | cnc|work | Features: - Track any spell in the game. Pet cooldowns too. |
| 10:54.06 | zipper | it says in the comments that it doesnt |
| 10:54.22 | zipper | "Pet CDs don't show up. I should remove Spell Lock, it has never worked." |
| 10:54.26 | zipper | from author of addon |
| 10:54.30 | Kuosi | ah |
| 10:54.32 | Kuosi | ok |
| 10:54.36 | Kuosi | then I dont know |
| 10:54.40 | Kuosi | I dont play with warlocks :o |
| 10:54.47 | zipper | hater =P |
| 10:55.03 | cnc|work | tbh, warlocks shld get capped at lvl 10 |
| 10:56.01 | Kuosi | kollektiv uses that on his tr realm vid |
| 10:56.06 | Kuosi | and it shows spell lock |
| 10:56.07 | Kuosi | =( |
| 10:56.28 | zipper | hmmm |
| 10:56.39 | zipper | maybe something was changed in a patch after that video? |
| 10:56.51 | zipper | i mean, it doesnt make much sense for him to say it doesnt work, if it really does =P |
| 10:57.15 | cnc|work | he's just trying to anoy you zipper |
| 10:57.26 | Aiiane_ | zipper: I think Ackis or someone was working on one called HiveMind? |
| 10:57.34 | Aiiane_ | initial commit was just the other day I think |
| 10:57.41 | Kuosi | I guess if it doesnt work with spell lock |
| 10:57.48 | Kuosi | it wont work with devour either? |
| 10:57.51 | zipper | i found that addon while searching for a replacement actually Aiiane_ |
| 10:58.24 | Aiiane | ah, antiarc not ackis :P |
| 10:58.25 | zipper | but the description was only something like "shares info with party" so wasnt really sure it could replace it |
| 10:58.31 | Aiiane | too many A names, mine should be the only one ^_^ |
| 10:58.35 | zipper | hivemind that is |
| 10:58.46 | zipper | i'll check out the other ones, thanks |
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| 10:59.23 | Kuosi | zipper: |
| 10:59.24 | Kuosi | Changelog |
| 10:59.24 | Kuosi | 1.04 |
| 10:59.24 | Kuosi | - Fixed adding spells with :'s in them (ex. Shadow Word: Death) |
| 10:59.26 | Kuosi | - Added support for Pet Cooldowns |
| 11:00.25 | zipper | hmm, its not there by default tho, need to look into how to add spells myself |
| 11:00.39 | cnc|work | add "Spell Lock" to the warlock tab |
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| 11:00.56 | zipper | dont need to have pet=Felhunter or something? |
| 11:01.54 | CIA-44 | 03belazor * r77771 10/branches/Cryolysis3/Cryolysis3.lua: |
| 11:01.54 | CIA-44 | Cryolysis3: |
| 11:01.54 | CIA-44 | - Default profile to "char" |
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| 11:05.53 | vithos | what the fuck. C:\Perl\bin\perl.exe can't be found when C:\Perl\bin is in my %PATH%? |
| 11:06.22 | vithos | yet it finds C:\Programs\Git\bin\perl.exe just fine with C:\Programs\Git\bin in there. |
| 11:06.49 | selckin | typo! |
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| 11:07.20 | vithos | i didn't even type it myself, the installer added it |
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| 11:08.34 | vithos | so i echo %PATH% and get a list that is magically lacking the perl\bin directory |
| 11:20.09 | zipper_ | Kuosi, doh... it actually works perfect with spell lock. Feel a bit silly now, but yey =) |
| 11:21.14 | cnc|work | ~shoot zipper_ |
| 11:21.15 | purl | ACTION shoots zipper_ in the eye with a glue gun! |
| 11:21.21 | cnc|work | there, an eye off too |
| 11:24.33 | Pkekyo| | My name is Gary Foster |
| 11:24.33 | Pkekyo| | World's greatest midget-tosser |
| 11:24.33 | Pkekyo| | I had a girl, that's how I lost her; |
| 11:24.34 | Pkekyo| | Threw her through the by like a flying saucer |
| 11:24.39 | Kuosi | glad it does :P |
| 11:25.20 | Kuosi | I just remembered the vid from where all the fuzz about the addon started from and was pretty sure he had spell lock there :P |
| 11:25.41 | Wraithan | what video/addon? |
| 11:25.46 | vithos | is there any addon manager other than addonpkg.pl that supports git? |
| 11:26.18 | Kuosi | Wraithan: Kollektiv's Shadowplay |
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| 12:01.03 | Movix | hi, wich lib provides the stuff for dropdown and context menus please ? |
| 12:04.17 | Arrowmaster | dewdrop |
| 12:04.29 | Movix | thx |
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| 12:38.22 | Tzun | Hello any forum admin around? |
| 12:39.43 | Tzun | guess not |
| 12:44.54 | Tzun | anyway have a question about cowtip if there is any way to add playerlocation when hovering over the unitframe |
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| 12:53.19 | Chompers | yes there is Tzun, only if you're in a different zone though |
| 12:53.54 | Tzun | ok can tell me how? |
| 12:54.17 | Chompers | can you search dogtag help for 'zone'? |
| 12:54.25 | Chompers | i don't know it off the top of my head |
| 12:54.29 | Tzun | ok i will check |
| 12:55.48 | Chompers | yeah it's just [Zone] |
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| 12:56.39 | Tzun | do i need to fl dogtag or ? |
| 12:56.47 | Tzun | dl* |
| 12:57.03 | Chompers | no, it's a libary used in cowtip |
| 12:57.05 | Chompers | try /dog |
| 12:57.15 | Tzun | ok |
| 12:58.44 | Tzun | ok found it now what :) nuub of the day |
| 12:58.53 | cnc|work | of the century tbh |
| 12:59.04 | Tzun | hehe |
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| 13:04.01 | Mytos | mornin folks |
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| 13:10.48 | Tzun | chompers still here? |
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| 13:15.44 | Mytos | gotta love 7k starfire crits |
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| 13:22.06 | Tzun | friday = mh farming damn boring |
| 13:22.14 | Stanzilla | http://www.battlefield-heroes.com/media/get-your-battlefield-heroes-ringtone-here < woaah awesome..where's the game :( |
| 13:24.55 | selckin | need to sell ringtones to pay the coders |
| 13:26.56 | cnc|work | they're actualy fre |
| 13:26.59 | cnc|work | s/fre/free/ |
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| 13:30.32 | Movix | hi, have some understanding problems with dewdrop. how do i get a sub menu working? |
| 13:36.45 | Tzun | need wowace forum admin help! |
| 13:37.34 | cnc|work | ~asktoask |
| 13:37.35 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 13:37.45 | cnc|work | for both of you |
| 13:37.54 | winkiller | I need cookies! |
| 13:38.16 | cnc|work | I need brownies = |
| 13:39.25 | Tzun | well cant login to forums sins it says i need to confirm my email adress but it doesent work |
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| 13:55.52 | thul | I got to get the energy to fix my UI one of these days |
| 13:56.07 | Mytos | so lazy thul lol |
| 13:56.19 | thul | and along those lines: why is not my "addons" menu up in the menu? |
| 13:56.22 | thul | what have i fucked up then? |
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| 13:56.43 | cnc|work | its an addon that adds the "addons" menu |
| 13:56.44 | cnc|work | get ACP |
| 13:56.59 | thul | I mean at the login screen |
| 13:58.27 | thul | just no "addons" button at the character screen :-( |
| 13:58.29 | thul | something is fucked up |
| 14:00.12 | Mytos | blizzard should let druid gear have all stats on it in equal values, im so tired of having to get four sets for everything |
| 14:00.40 | thul | yes, and we rogues should get all stats on both our pve and pvp gear too |
| 14:00.45 | Mytos | and if they go back to the "druids are always resto" teir of prebc im gonna go on a killing spree |
| 14:00.53 | Camci | in the addon Routes when i wanna make a route with gathermate, i cant pick azeroth zones? |
| 14:01.05 | Camci | I just see outland zones... |
| 14:01.15 | cnc|work | Mytos: yea, so I can tank , heal and dps in the same gear and all do it well |
| 14:01.18 | cnc|work | thats totaly not Op |
| 14:01.47 | Mytos | its really not, because if im resto and in tank gear im not gonna be able to tank effectively |
| 14:02.02 | cnc|work | it is tbh |
| 14:02.03 | Mytos | if im feral and in resto gear theres no way in hell im healing effectively |
| 14:02.05 | cnc|work | if you're in arena |
| 14:02.09 | cnc|work | if you're in arena as a resto |
| 14:02.16 | cnc|work | and shift to bear |
| 14:02.20 | cnc|work | ur gear would give u decent armor |
| 14:02.37 | cnc|work | as the gear ur wearing would also give bear stats |
| 14:02.37 | cnc|work | making you even harder to kill |
| 14:02.38 | cnc|work | so no thanks :p |
| 14:02.46 | Mytos | meh, i dont mean for pvp, and youd really get the same armor of your a standard pvp build since feral and balance sets have the same armor |
| 14:03.11 | cnc|work | and the resto set ? |
| 14:03.40 | Mytos | same armor |
| 14:04.03 | Mytos | atleast it was for the earlier sets, i havent checked s4 yet |
| 14:04.34 | Mytos | take that back, s4 had more armor on feral, but the amount is negligable |
| 14:04.49 | Mytos | 429vs 415 on the head |
| 14:05.44 | Mytos | stam and res are close enough in the same values aswell |
| 14:06.32 | Mytos | afk driving home |
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| 14:13.28 | Zyndrome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9o5_W6hn9k |
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| 14:22.56 | AckisWork | not sure if I mentioned this last night but someone made a lolcat of my kitty |
| 14:23.16 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:23.17 | sacarasc | the bastards! |
| 14:23.19 | nevcairiel | what does it say? |
| 14:23.49 | AckisWork | http://i30.tinypic.com/1ooduo.jpg |
| 14:24.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:24.20 | AckisWork | there's someone from my old guild on my server (pre-BC guild), and in that guild I had to announce to the raid that I was "going afk to put eye drops in my cat" |
| 14:24.37 | AckisWork | so I posted a pic of him lazing around with a cone on his head, and she lolcated it |
| 14:25.26 | nevcairiel | was it posted on icanhascheezeburger yet? |
| 14:25.50 | AckisWork | yah I think she used that site to make it |
| 14:25.58 | AckisWork | there's a banner on the bottom of the pic |
| 14:26.14 | nevcairiel | probably only the good ones get a front page entry :P |
| 14:26.50 | AckisWork | it was just made yesterday /shrug :P |
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| 14:31.37 | Vulcanus | kittah ^^ |
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| 14:34.47 | CIA-44 | 03wang * r77772 10Altoholic/localization_zhCN.lua: |
| 14:34.47 | CIA-44 | Altoholic: |
| 14:34.47 | CIA-44 | -zhCN update |
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| 14:36.30 | thul | I really like icehud |
| 14:36.32 | thul | kudos |
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| 14:51.38 | p3lim | this chan got an arena calculator? |
| 14:52.40 | Stanzilla | !points 800 |
| 14:52.40 | Xinhuan | 800 arena points require 1826(5s), 1897(3s) and 1999(2s) team rating. |
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| 14:53.04 | p3lim | the other way around tho |
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| 14:53.42 | Stanzilla | !rating 1880 |
| 14:53.42 | Xinhuan | 1880 rating gives 884(5s), 778(3s) and 671(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:54.15 | AckisWork | !c us ackis |
| 14:54.22 | nevcairiel | needs realm |
| 14:54.36 | AckisWork | my bad |
| 14:54.41 | AckisWork | !c us illidan ackis |
| 14:54.49 | AckisWork | I don't think the bot is in the channel either? |
| 14:55.11 | nevcairiel | doensnt seem like it, no |
| 14:56.01 | AckisWork | <-- sad pants |
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| 15:09.46 | Stanzilla | http://www.a42.de/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Ocean_Whale_Sperm.png < wtb |
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| 15:14.56 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 15:15.33 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: haven't you learned to never click on something with whale sperm in the name? |
| 15:15.43 | Stanzilla | hehe |
| 15:16.02 | Stanzilla | it's a chinese drink |
| 15:17.09 | Zyndrome | obviously |
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| 15:18.08 | Zyndrome | http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23968099-5001021,00.html |
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| 15:20.16 | Funkeh` | ... |
| 15:20.56 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 15:21.10 | p3lim | !points 400 |
| 15:21.10 | Xinhuan | 400 arena points require 1549(5s), 1592(3s) and 1645(2s) team rating. |
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| 15:21.34 | p3lim | !points 200 |
| 15:21.34 | Xinhuan | 200 arena points require 846(5s), 970(3s) and 1133(2s) team rating. |
| 15:21.43 | p3lim | ok big jump there :p |
| 15:22.46 | p3lim | !points 300 |
| 15:22.47 | Xinhuan | 300 arena points require 1300(5s), 1486(3s) and 1545(2s) team rating. |
| 15:23.02 | Kuosi | what u trying to do? :o |
| 15:23.13 | p3lim | figure out how much id get of my rating |
| 15:23.21 | ktwo | if i want to have maximum dps with 20/0/41 on a raid boss, should i use the same rota as a combat rogue or using all energy for hemo? (and no "respec" answers pls xD) just want to know how i can maximize dps as shs |
| 15:23.57 | Kuosi | you cant use the same rotation |
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| 15:25.40 | Kuosi | or hum |
| 15:25.46 | Kuosi | mayb you can do 5s/5r |
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| 15:27.20 | Zyndrome | I'll state the obvious |
| 15:27.22 | [dRaCo] | never let snd drop |
| 15:27.23 | Zyndrome | ktwo : respec |
| 15:27.23 | Zyndrome | :3 |
| 15:27.41 | Zyndrome | and now, I'm gone to the shop |
| 15:28.02 | ktwo | so basically using snd and r is still better than smashing hemo with that spec.. k |
| 15:29.03 | Kuosi | yes |
| 15:30.06 | ktwo | and gear? better to use arenagear (crit-heavy) or going for pve gear |
| 15:30.40 | [dRaCo] | guess why it's called pve gear |
| 15:30.56 | [dRaCo] | and, just to make sure you are aware, your dps will still suck |
| 15:31.38 | AckisWork | when one of our rogues goes hemo, they still put out around 2400 dps on KJ |
| 15:31.49 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 15:31.53 | [dRaCo] | but 20/0/41 isnt raid emo |
| 15:32.07 | Kuosi | you should go with pve gear still |
| 15:32.12 | [dRaCo] | yeah |
| 15:32.12 | ktwo | kk |
| 15:32.14 | Kuosi | taken its on par with your pvp gear |
| 15:32.50 | ktwo | s3 vs. t5 |
| 15:34.26 | Kuosi | iirc some s3 parts are better than t5 dps wise |
| 15:34.37 | Kuosi | use spreadsheet :O |
| 15:34.56 | ktwo | main reason i thought pvp gear would be better is 110 energy |
| 15:35.17 | Kuosi | that is useless in pve pretty much |
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| 15:53.05 | DARKGuy | o/ |
| 15:54.11 | AckisWork | sup DARKGuy |
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| 15:54.24 | DARKGuy | hey AckisWork ^_^ |
| 15:54.24 | DARKGuy | At work, happy. |
| 15:54.25 | DARKGuy | happy happy happy. |
| 15:54.36 | AckisWork | http://ackis.myminicity.com/ |
| 15:54.44 | DARKGuy | *clicks like crazy* |
| 15:54.47 | DARKGuy | I'm happeeeeeeeeh |
| 15:54.50 | DARKGuy | clicking happeeeeeh |
| 15:54.50 | AckisWork | yay! |
| 15:54.51 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:54.54 | Yasuo | hi |
| 15:55.02 | DARKGuy | hi Yasuo ^^ |
| 15:55.17 | Yasuo | enchantlist/craftlister is buggy, often does not find anything |
| 15:55.21 | Yasuo | any ideas? |
| 15:55.45 | Yasuo | hi DARKGuy |
| 15:55.54 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 15:55.59 | DARKGuy | I dunno, never used it =( |
| 15:56.15 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: I'm getting an 8600GT XXX with Zallman Fansink tomorrow ^_^ |
| 15:58.38 | AckisWork | ohh nice |
| 15:58.51 | AckisWork | I use an 8800 ultra :D |
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| 16:00.51 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: damn you XD |
| 16:01.00 | DARKGuy | AckisWork: I wanted that one, but it's way too expensive for me :p |
| 16:01.14 | DARKGuy | this one works though, and I can OC it like hell :D |
| 16:01.49 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77773 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibSpecialEvents-Skill-4.0/LibSpecialEvents-Skill-4.0.lua: |
| 16:01.49 | CIA-44 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 16:01.49 | CIA-44 | - Skills are not available until after PLAYER_LOGIN, so don't create the list until requested |
| 16:02.01 | AckisWork | something is wrong w/ my PC though keep getting weird errors |
| 16:02.08 | CIA-44 | 03LordFarlander * r77774 10Coconuts/Coconuts.lua: |
| 16:02.08 | CIA-44 | Coconuts: |
| 16:02.08 | CIA-44 | - Don't get the riding skill until after PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 16:02.20 | AckisWork | display driver stopped responding |
| 16:02.54 | DARKGuy | o_O? |
| 16:02.55 | DARKGuy | how so |
| 16:03.05 | AckisWork | just happens, common problem apparently |
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| 16:07.01 | DARKGuy | :/ |
| 16:07.07 | DARKGuy | weird, I've heard of viruses doing that though |
| 16:07.12 | DARKGuy | they mess up the video driver >.< |
| 16:08.38 | Andune | looking for a new bar mod... BT4? flexbar? BT3? |
| 16:10.11 | AckisWork | install all 3 and you get even more slots! |
| 16:11.34 | Stanzilla | I use Dominos :) |
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| 16:13.09 | Silviu- | Andune Dominos ;p |
| 16:13.39 | Andune | hmm two votes for Dominos. Might hafta take a look :) |
| 16:13.53 | DARKGuy | BT4 ftw. |
| 16:14.23 | Cheads | i like dominos |
| 16:14.32 | Andune | ahh, and it's Tuller who wrote Bongos3, which is where I'm coming from. cool. |
| 16:14.37 | Cheads | not tried bt4 though |
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| 16:16.29 | AckisWork | I use BT4 |
| 16:16.47 | AckisWork | only because nevcairiel gave me sexual favours to use it however |
| 16:17.22 | Andune | well while I was waitin for the server to stop throwin fits, I installed BT4. So I'll give it a quick spin and maybe try Dominos too since a few people here seem to like it |
| 16:19.04 | Andune | hmm thought I recall hearing from here a while back that BT4 had some better integration with cyCircled? or whatever that's morphed into these days (dont see it on ace anymore) |
| 16:19.28 | AckisWork | Bt4 uses buttonfacade iirc |
| 16:19.34 | Stanzilla | ^that |
| 16:19.36 | Andune | ah. i'll look for that. |
| 16:19.41 | Silviu- | Domnos too |
| 16:19.43 | Silviu- | :) |
| 16:19.48 | Andune | sweet :) |
| 16:19.49 | Silviu- | Dominos* |
| 16:21.54 | Andune | and it seems I've got a few choices in HUDs these days, with a few new players on the scene |
| 16:22.28 | Andune | any recommendations from somebody who really loves the one their using? |
| 16:22.38 | Andune | they're |
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| 16:24.28 | DARKGuy | I don't use HUDs, I only use Pitbull xD |
| 16:24.41 | DARKGuy | DHUD and ArcHUD were the best ones I used back then |
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| 16:26.46 | Andune | Yeah been using ArcHUD for years. kinda tired of the parabolic effect in the top/bottom 10% |
| 16:27.20 | DARKGuy | hm, it must have changed then o.o |
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| 16:31.35 | Andune | lol, ck has his own minimap mod now. Well guess I'll have to try it :) |
| 16:32.08 | DARKGuy | where :o |
| 16:32.32 | Andune | chinchilla... it'll nibble your hay pellets :P |
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| 16:33.45 | CIA-44 | 03rabbit * r77775 10BananaDKP/ (BananaDKP.lua type/Symphony.lua): BananaDKP: Don't reset the dkp cache on clients when the host goes offline. |
| 16:34.22 | Andune | and with a built-in expander, no less. |
| 16:37.32 | syeren | vhaarr: Does ShutUp still work? |
| 16:37.42 | Andune | OMG I love Chinchilla |
| 16:37.43 | vhaarr | it should, yes |
| 16:37.46 | Fisker- | shut up |
| 16:37.53 | Fisker- | doesn't seem to work at all :( |
| 16:37.54 | vhaarr | syeren: let me check the code |
| 16:38.10 | nevcairiel | oh vhaarr is back |
| 16:38.13 | nevcairiel | where have you been? |
| 16:38.15 | vhaarr | grrr |
| 16:38.19 | vhaarr | my computer is just broken |
| 16:38.19 | Lukian | Andune, I'm sticking with IceHUD atm |
| 16:38.30 | nevcairiel | ah, sucks |
| 16:38.35 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: I got a new video card today, so I can boot now |
| 16:38.40 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:38.44 | Xinhuan | what card |
| 16:38.45 | vhaarr | but I just crashed again so I dunno |
| 16:38.50 | vhaarr | Gainward 9600GT |
| 16:39.04 | Xinhuan | why not 9800 |
| 16:39.05 | Andune | lukian: seems that ones been around a while and a number of people like it. never tried it myself, guess I'll give it a spin. |
| 16:39.10 | Xinhuan | 8800 > 9600 |
| 16:39.17 | vhaarr | thanks, I know what I'm doing :P |
| 16:39.29 | syeren | vhaarr, CHerez is complaining to me that it doesn't work or something. |
| 16:39.34 | vhaarr | okay sec |
| 16:39.40 | syeren | But he's a normal user, so that's about as much details as I am getting from him -_- |
| 16:39.55 | vhaarr | it's just annoying when my computer crashes every 4 hours, don't want to reconnect to IRC 24/7 and restart the IM client etc |
| 16:40.05 | vhaarr | or start any work |
| 16:40.26 | Lukian | <Xinhuan> 8800 > 9600 |
| 16:40.29 | Lukian | ^ damn straight :D |
| 16:40.47 | Lukian | vhaarr, what operating system, dare I ask? |
| 16:40.51 | vhaarr | debian |
| 16:41.02 | vhaarr | I'm quite aware of how the nvidia numbering works |
| 16:41.11 | Lukian | hmm, scary, because the linux drivers are more mature than the vista ones :( |
| 16:41.26 | vhaarr | you clearly didn't read what I wrote either |
| 16:41.31 | vhaarr | so please refrain from commenting |
| 16:42.32 | Lukian | how much earlier? :D |
| 16:43.14 | vhaarr | syeren: it should work fine, although I'll make a few small tweaks to the code |
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| 16:43.27 | vhaarr | long time since I wrote it, learned a few things about the guild roster updating since then |
| 16:43.27 | syeren | Oki, thanks. |
| 16:43.35 | vhaarr | but it should have no impact on functionality |
| 16:44.14 | syeren | [17:41:33] [From] [Cherez]: thanks its just[17:41:36] [From] [Cherez]: it reported it was working[17:41:40] [From] [Cherez]: but all whispers got thru from everyone |
| 16:45.01 | syeren | Goddamn I hate being the go-between >_> |
| 16:45.39 | vhaarr | :P |
| 16:46.20 | Xinhuan | You are now Exalted with Gadgetzan. |
| 16:49.43 | syeren | vharr. |
| 16:49.47 | syeren | Are you on Quakenet? |
| 16:49.52 | syeren | *Vhaarr |
| 16:50.36 | vhaarr | normally, yes |
| 16:50.42 | vhaarr | not now since my computer is so unstable |
| 16:51.00 | vhaarr | syeren: he can't give me any information that would help anyway |
| 16:51.16 | syeren | Oki. |
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| 16:57.26 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77776 10Bartender4/ (6 files): Bartender4: fix issue with hiding bars on disable |
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| 17:05.12 | CIA-44 | 03rabbit * r77777 10ShutUp/ShutUp.lua: ShutUp: Drycoded cleanup. |
| 17:05.22 | vhaarr | zomg imba rev #! |
| 17:05.31 | vhaarr | syeren: he can try that, but I don't think there should be any difference |
| 17:05.34 | ulic | you didn't do anything, you just wanted taht number :) |
| 17:05.37 | vhaarr | and it might have syntax error |
| 17:05.45 | vhaarr | it's true :( |
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| 17:12.43 | Dashkal | meh, I need an alternative to pidgin. anybody know of a linux msn client that actually knows the windows live protocol? |
| 17:14.57 | Dashkal | I want my offline messaging... |
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| 17:16.11 | aestil | in this screenshot |
| 17:16.13 | aestil | http://i27.tinypic.com/20z4oiw.png |
| 17:16.29 | aestil | on the lower right hand side, just above his gold, is that showing how much longer inspiration is going to be on someone? |
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| 17:21.36 | Dranor | aestil: DoTimer |
| 17:21.56 | Dranor | if it's not, there must be something similar |
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| 17:37.08 | Kream | vhaarr : are you there ? |
| 17:37.23 | vhaarr | Kream: are you an exploit? |
| 17:37.31 | vhaarr | * Received a CTCP IDLE from Kream |
| 17:37.32 | vhaarr | * Received a CTCP PING 1215192945 from Kream |
| 17:37.32 | vhaarr | * Received a CTCP VERSION from Kream |
| 17:37.33 | Kream | no, not really. |
| 17:37.39 | Kream | just trying to figure out if youre there or idle |
| 17:37.45 | vhaarr | then just ask me |
| 17:37.54 | Kream | Not like I didnt |
| 17:38.01 | vhaarr | what the fuck is your problem dude |
| 17:38.10 | vhaarr | I'm here, now tell me what you want |
| 17:38.25 | sdouble | he wanted to know if you were there |
| 17:38.30 | sdouble | not like he didn't already ask |
| 17:38.40 | vhaarr | :P |
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| 17:39.39 | Kream | I wanted to request you to restore the functionality in BanzaiAlert which let us know the mob/npc which aggroed, thats all. |
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| 17:41.25 | Poul|Raider1 | 5/23 00:12:06.721 SPELL_PERIODIC_ENERGIZE,0xF130003C810040F1,"Mana Spring Totem V" does each totem have a unique guid ? |
| 17:41.41 | AckisWork | hmm, so to piss off rabbit, you just need to send him CTCP commands... |
| 17:41.52 | Stanzilla | try it Ackis |
| 17:42.03 | vhaarr | apparently you're not familiar with the various mIRC CTCP exploits |
| 17:42.14 | selckin | from like 1995? |
| 17:42.15 | Kream | yeah a /ctcp ping is a massive exploit |
| 17:42.54 | Dashkal | O.o if mIRC can't handle pings you might consider a new client... |
| 17:43.12 | Kream | xchat, maybe |
| 17:43.30 | AckisWork | selckin: MOOO back |
| 17:43.48 | vhaarr | who said I used mIRC |
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| 17:44.15 | vhaarr | doesn't mean I like being probed for exploits that exist in other clients than the one I use |
| 17:44.18 | AckisWork | I'd send a CTCP request to find out what you use, but I'd probably get thwapped ;) |
| 17:44.42 | Dashkal | block CTCP entirely and forget about it? |
| 17:45.12 | AckisWork | Dashkal: remember that DCC one? |
| 17:45.16 | selckin | its the same as a privmsg, notting to get annoyed about |
| 17:45.19 | Dashkal | And I'm protected now, ackis :p |
| 17:45.28 | Ellipsis | I'm not :P |
| 17:45.38 | Dashkal | heh, I've seen people get outright uppity about being privmsg'd |
| 17:45.47 | Dashkal | "What gives you the right to PM me?" |
| 17:46.08 | Dashkal | Ellipsis: *snickers* |
| 17:46.23 | Ellipsis | just try it, all up-to-date ircds have filtering for it :P |
| 17:46.43 | Ellipsis | you're more likely to get yourself killed or at least talking to an oper |
| 17:46.45 | AckisWork | I got yelled at by someone on msn for sending them a message once |
| 17:47.00 | Dashkal | I got pestered by an ircop about fixing myself |
| 17:47.10 | selckin | i block anyone who uses the nudge feature |
| 17:47.11 | Dashkal | I can't fix the router so I had to do the :8001 method |
| 17:47.28 | AckisWork | I got yelled at by someone in the chan when I quoted what arrowmaster said, didn't realize that the text itself was the exploit (irony eh?) |
| 17:47.43 | AckisWork | well not yelled at, a firm suggestion not to ever do that again :P |
| 17:48.14 | Dashkal | my home router uses a patched firmware. afaik I'm not vulnerable to it at all there |
| 17:48.27 | Dashkal | I wouldn't mind being tested at some point, but that can wait |
| 17:48.29 | Dashkal | I' |
| 17:48.35 | Dashkal | I'd rather be inside the router when risking crashing it :p |
| 17:48.41 | Kream | o shi... CTCP is in somefreakin hack 'sploit doc! |
| 17:48.44 | Kream | it's called ... |
| 17:48.54 | Kream | RFC 1459!!! |
| 17:48.56 | Kream | FLEEEEE!!! |
| 17:48.59 | Ellipsis | RFCs are hacker tools |
| 17:49.04 | Kream | fo real |
| 17:49.12 | Dashkal | Did you remember to set the EVIL bit on your outgoing packets? |
| 17:49.26 | AckisWork | I remember back in my IS courses, I used to hack into everyones PC and do nasty shit... lol I had a chain of 8 computers set up to reboot in the middle of class one day, good fun |
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| 17:49.35 | selckin | pigeon carrior doens't have an evil bit |
| 17:49.36 | Kream | only freakin RFC i want to use is 1159 |
| 17:49.41 | Ellipsis | also, wasn't CTCP a later RFC? |
| 17:49.46 | Dashkal | I used to install mandrake on school PCs that got borked by clueless students |
| 17:49.47 | AckisWork | RFC's Ellipsis |
| 17:49.58 | Kream | hush, yeah |
| 17:50.05 | Kream | addendum to 1459 |
| 17:50.15 | Ellipsis | ~lart Kream |
| 17:50.15 | purl | installs PocketPC on Kream's PDA |
| 17:50.16 | selckin | every student pc in our school had the same root pass |
| 17:51.00 | selckin | fun times |
| 17:51.00 | selckin | ./rebootclassroom |
| 17:51.46 | Lukian | Ackis, lol I used to do that too, but I never even thought about rebooting them XD |
| 17:52.01 | Lukian | (blanking the screen and typing random shit in people documents was fun though) |
| 17:52.21 | vithos | my highschool had some shit installed on all the computers that logged all visited URLs |
| 17:52.33 | vithos | to a readable-by-anyone samba share. |
| 17:52.43 | AckisWork | Lukian: one dude got up in the middle of the professors lecturing and started yelling, it was pretty funny |
| 17:53.18 | AckisWork | Lukian: he said something along hte lines of "so you think you're funny", so I continued to abuse his system and created text files named that all over the place |
| 17:53.37 | Lukian | did he know it was you? XD |
| 17:53.42 | AckisWork | no |
| 17:53.46 | Lukian | hahaha |
| 17:53.50 | AckisWork | not until I told him a long time after |
| 17:55.48 | Kream | I dont have a pda .. dont hold with them |
| 17:55.57 | Kream | stone-age basic cellphone ftfw |
| 17:57.42 | Kream | so, yeah |
| 17:58.32 | Kream | BanzaiAlert - great mod; just adding my voice to the adoring masses pleading for some functionality to be restored. |
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| 17:59.30 | Lukian | what's it do? :p |
| 17:59.43 | Ellipsis | wasn't that functionality removed from the lib itself? |
| 18:00.03 | Kream | yes, it was |
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| 18:01.22 | Kream | banzailib |
| 18:02.40 | Lukian | "You can use Sandals of Summer and then use Winter Veil Disguise Kit to become a burning snowman. This trick also works with Vestment of Summer." |
| 18:02.48 | Lukian | anyone wanna screenshot that for me? :D |
| 18:03.07 | Kream | alternatively, if there were a clear way to fallback to the pre-change version I'd be happy with that - I dont know how to download old versions of mods with all required deps embedded. http://files.wowace.com/BanzaiAlert/BanzaiAlert-r54514.zip has external deps, |
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| 18:04.09 | Ellipsis | ahahah that's awesome |
| 18:04.10 | Kream | there's grid's GridAlert which does kinda the same thing, but it appears buggy and doesnt output messages. |
| 18:04.32 | Ellipsis | if I wasn't too lazy to collect burning blossoms I'd totally do that |
| 18:04.42 | Kream | libsink is a wrapper for output plugins ? |
| 18:04.59 | Dashkal | Lukian: serious? that's very sweet |
| 18:05.04 | Dashkal | need to dig out my snowball maker... |
| 18:05.18 | Lukian | Dashkal, or just grab some from people who have killed ahune recently |
| 18:05.27 | Dashkal | he drops snowballs? |
| 18:05.36 | Dashkal | nice |
| 18:05.58 | Lukian | if you stand inside him (or perhaps, slip over) there's a chance you'll get a [Pocket full of snow] |
| 18:06.26 | Kream | is there a way to install a mod with all required deps embedded ? |
| 18:06.40 | Kream | would I have to edit the idk, manifest xml ? |
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| 18:09.09 | Kream | ... ah well. thanks to all you guys for all the mods. wouldn't be playing without 'em. |
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| 18:10.22 | Ellipsis | the snowballs in ahune's chest aren't regular snowballs though, I'm not sure they work for the winter veil stuff |
| 18:10.43 | AckisWork | they're big ones |
| 18:10.45 | Ellipsis | fortunately I have a snowball alt for just such an occasion! |
| 18:11.08 | AckisWork | snowballs sucked when they stopped knocking people over |
| 18:12.34 | Funkeh` | what's the default chat font size |
| 18:14.13 | Lukian | Dashkal, just got linked these: http://www.bpcent.com/burningsnowman.jpg http://www.bpcent.com/burningsnowangel.jpg |
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| 18:15.06 | Dashkal | Ok, that is freaking sweet |
| 18:15.12 | Dashkal | I gotta find a paladin who got their snowman... |
| 18:15.34 | Dashkal | I need to respec myself treeform, though. I hate resto, but a screenshot of a tree on fire is too good to pass up |
| 18:18.06 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77778 10BasicChatMods/font.lua: BasicChatMods: bugfix font module setting font size really small on a fresh install |
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| 18:19.54 | reiser | hello, can someone help me about bartender4 ? |
| 18:20.26 | reiser | i dont know what button names are, i used something like this: /click BT3Button1 in macro |
| 18:20.42 | reiser | with Bartender3 ofcourse, but now that doesnt work anymore |
| 18:20.54 | AckisWork | thinks BT4 > BT3 |
| 18:21.09 | reiser | BT4Button1 doesnt work :) |
| 18:21.12 | Lukian | reiser, /lick MultiBar(Bottom)(Left)Button1 works |
| 18:21.32 | Lukian | ie. MultiBarRight12 |
| 18:21.39 | Lukian | ie. MultiBarRightButton12 |
| 18:21.41 | Lukian | ^ sorry |
| 18:21.45 | reiser | hm |
| 18:21.51 | Zicon | Why are you licking buttons? |
| 18:22.03 | reiser | what about if i want to click on button that is in 9th bartender panel ? |
| 18:22.07 | Dashkal | The cake is tasty |
| 18:22.48 | AckisWork | http://www.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=110000117 <-- anyone have that? |
| 18:23.10 | Ellipsis | the cake is a lie. |
| 18:23.33 | reiser | can someone help me :) please |
| 18:24.01 | Lukian | reiser, not sure |
| 18:24.03 | reiser | /click MultiBar(Bottom)(Left)Button1 doesnt work aswell btw |
| 18:24.07 | AckisWork | reiser: change BT3 -> BT4 |
| 18:24.12 | reiser | i did Ackis |
| 18:24.18 | reiser | doesnt work |
| 18:24.34 | Lukian | reiser, works for me |
| 18:24.34 | nevcairiel | reiser: BT4Button1Secure |
| 18:24.36 | AckisWork | can you see said button on your UI? |
| 18:24.52 | reiser | Ackis, no, its hidden |
| 18:24.56 | reiser | thanks nevcairiel it works ! :) |
| 18:25.06 | nevcairiel | I know |
| 18:25.07 | nevcairiel | i wrote it |
| 18:25.08 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 18:25.16 | AckisWork | amazing |
| 18:25.19 | reiser | nice |
| 18:26.25 | reiser | thx for help |
| 18:26.51 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: do you feel used? |
| 18:27.10 | nevcairiel | I live to be used |
| 18:27.22 | AckisWork | gets the rubber chicken |
| 18:27.25 | AckisWork | COME HERE BOY |
| 18:29.38 | AckisWork | apparently you can register codes online w/ blizzard now to download games you hold the license for |
| 18:29.39 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77779 10BasicMinimap/BasicMinimap.toc: BasicMinimap: toc update |
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| 18:34.29 | Industrial | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 18:34.31 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.45> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 11h 1m 2s ago, saying: 'i think i have reached the pinnacle of boredom'. |
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| 19:12.21 | Obelixprime | ~seen industrial |
| 19:12.23 | purl | industrial <n=Industri@194.145.194.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 37m 54s ago, saying: '~seen sylvanaar'. |
| 19:13.17 | [Liquidor] | ~seen Obelixprime |
| 19:13.17 | purl | obelixprime is currently on #wowace (2d 22h 57m 40s). Has said a total of 5 messages. Is idling for 56s, last said: '~seen industrial'. |
| 19:13.45 | DARKGuy | ~seen DARKGuy |
| 19:13.46 | purl | darkguy is currently on #wowuidev (3h 20m 54s) #wowace (3h 20m 54s). Has said a total of 26 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen DARKGuy'. |
| 19:13.49 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 19:14.38 | Obelixprime | oh |
| 19:14.42 | Obelixprime | the huge manatee |
| 19:14.55 | Obelixprime | all my other irc channels are quiet cause of american independence day |
| 19:15.04 | Zyndrome | hurf |
| 19:15.52 | Obelixprime | so, bt4 isn't an upgrade from bt3 other than the skinning change? |
| 19:15.58 | [Liquidor] | what is this day about anyway? (I'm EU) |
| 19:16.08 | [Liquidor] | Is it the day that the world shot down the aliens? |
| 19:16.18 | Obelixprime | yes |
| 19:16.25 | Obelixprime | its to commemorate will smith's movie |
| 19:16.31 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 19:16.35 | Obelixprime | it was so good they decided to make a holiday about it |
| 19:16.40 | Zyndrome | all thanks to a lunatic farmer |
| 19:17.54 | Obelixprime | yes |
| 19:18.06 | Obelixprime | march 13th is american men in black day |
| 19:18.37 | Obelixprime | where they commemorate the saving of the world from a different set of aliens |
| 19:18.47 | Zyndrome | November 5th is when we swedes will overthrow the government |
| 19:18.51 | Zyndrome | cause it's about time |
| 19:20.06 | Obelixprime | sounds good |
| 19:20.14 | Obelixprime | aren't you all going to get arrested for using bit torrent? |
| 19:20.50 | Zyndrome | I'm going to get arrested for calling you my alchemy lab supplier, where I produce Cyklon-B gas |
| 19:20.55 | Obelixprime | or is that some other Nordic country? |
| 19:21.05 | Zicon | You're going to wait until november? You really should get moving a bit faster. |
| 19:21.30 | Obelixprime | Do people in sweden recognize that the country looks like a limp penis? |
| 19:21.33 | Zyndrome | since swedes are known to be spineless cowards, it'll take longer than that obviously |
| 19:21.56 | Zicon | You are? Hmm. Let me send you some drunk finnish people to help. |
| 19:21.58 | Obelixprime | I just looked up sweden on wikipedia and that's what I thought from the image |
| 19:22.25 | Zyndrome | Sweden and Norway make up the deformed penis, while Finland are the balls |
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| 19:22.30 | Zicon | obelixprime: It gets even better if you add Finland. |
| 19:22.41 | Zicon | Hey, keep us out of your penis fantasies! |
| 19:22.58 | Obelixprime | lol |
| 19:23.06 | Guest87359 | in grid, when setting priorities, is 99 the highest or lowest priority for any specific debuff |
| 19:23.10 | Zyndrome | get off us! |
| 19:23.11 | Guest87359 | damn |
| 19:23.15 | Guest87359 | <- this is aestil |
| 19:23.29 | Zyndrome | I have just a few kilometers to the norwegian border! |
| 19:23.34 | Zyndrome | grabs a shovel and heads out |
| 19:24.12 | Zicon | grabs a stick, some mayonnaise and a camera and heads out as well. |
| 19:24.29 | Dashkal | Guest87359 / aestil: 99 is highest |
| 19:24.49 | Zyndrome | Zicon , you probably have better luck with discount coupons :S |
| 19:25.54 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77780 10XPerl/ (XPerl.lua XPerl_Globals.xml localization.lua): XPerl: Added ruRU translation. |
| 19:26.15 | Obelixprime | NO |
| 19:26.23 | Obelixprime | the russkies now have xperl |
| 19:26.35 | Obelixprime | DAMN YOU EISENHOWER |
| 19:27.03 | Megalon | ruRU, ru your boat! |
| 19:27.20 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77781 10XPerl_ArcaneBar/XPerl_ArcaneBar.lua: XPerl_ArcaneBar: Tweak to ending casts, for cases where channeling and casting can occur at same time. |
| 19:28.22 | Guest87359 | for 'my renew' in grid status, what do the threshold to activate values mean? right now they are defuault set at 2 and 4? |
| 19:28.33 | Obelixprime | In ruRU, localization localizes you're mod |
| 19:28.46 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77782 10XPerl_CustomHighlight/XPerl_CustomHighlight.lua: XPerl_CustomHighlight: Update default watch spells. |
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| 19:30.59 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77783 10XPerl/localization.ruRU.lua: XPerl: Actually add the ruRU file.. |
| 19:31.03 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77784 10XPerl_Options/ (XPerl_FrameOptions.lua localization.ruRU.lua): XPerl_Options: Add ruRU translation. |
| 19:31.22 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77785 10XPerl_RaidAdmin/ (3 files): XPerl_RaidAdmin: Add ruRU translation. |
| 19:32.41 | CIA-44 | 03jncl * r77786 10Skinner/AddonSkins/ (4 files): Skinner: Updated Cartographer, AckisRecipeList, RecipeBook & LightHeaded skins |
| 19:33.16 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77787 10XPerl_RaidFrames/ (XPerl_Raid.lua XPerl_Raid.xml localization.ruRU.lua): XPerl_RaidFrames: Add ruRU translation. |
| 19:33.49 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77788 10XPerl_RaidHelper/ (3 files): XPerl_RaidHelper: Add ruRU translation. |
| 19:35.16 | CIA-44 | 03zeksie * r77789 10XPerl_RaidMonitor/ (XPerl_RaidMonitor.xml localization.ruRU.lua): XPerl_RaidMonitor: Add ruRU translation. |
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| 19:39.30 | Zyndrome | x_x |
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| 19:40.31 | Obelixprime | when did they let russians play wow? |
| 19:40.34 | *** join/#wowace |Jelly|Ghost (n=chatzill@75.142.184.127) |
| 19:40.42 | nevcairiel | not too long ago |
| 19:41.17 | Zyndrome | definition Russian; see EU-Warsong |
| 19:45.31 | *** part/#wowace Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-146-164-246.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 19:46.17 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: russians don't play wow, wow plays russians |
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| 19:47.35 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:47.59 | AckisWork | I hate Fisker- |
| 19:48.09 | AckisWork | kicks Fisker- from the channel. |
| 19:48.36 | Fisker- | i hate AckisWork |
| 19:48.50 | AckisWork | NO U |
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| 19:51.33 | CIA-44 | 03darkclaw * r77790 10Cartographer_Icons_SmallBoxPack/ (12 files): Cartographer_Icons_SmallBoxPack: This is the first release version |
| 19:53.22 | DARKGuy | I hate Fisker- too |
| 19:53.24 | DARKGuy | 2 votes :D |
| 19:54.06 | Funkeh` | we just wiped I molten core |
| 19:54.12 | Zyndrome | D:! |
| 19:54.15 | Funkeh` | pulled baron and shaz at the same time |
| 19:54.18 | Fisker- | slaps Funkeh` around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:54.20 | Funkeh` | was fun whilst it lasted |
| 19:56.00 | Fisker- | DARKGuy = goatman |
| 19:56.50 | Funkeh` | try #2 |
| 19:58.31 | AckisWork | Funkeh`: that's pretty funky, did you kill them? |
| 19:58.34 | AckisWork | heh |
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| 20:04.31 | Yssaril | am currently workign with string formats is it possible to switch 2 numbers around via the pattern? |
| 20:04.56 | Yssaril | example would be string:format("%s: %d/%d", "some stuff", 60, 1) any way i can have the pattern use the 1 fiirst and then the 60 ? |
| 20:05.08 | Yssaril | without manually switching it ofcourse :) |
| 20:06.49 | DARKGuy | lol Fisker- |
| 20:06.57 | DARKGuy | Fisker- hates me :( |
| 20:07.17 | Ellipsis | I Fisker-d your mom last night |
| 20:07.25 | CIA-44 | 03darkclaw * r77791 10Cartographer_Icons_SmallBoxPack/: |
| 20:07.25 | CIA-44 | Cartographer_Icons_SmallBoxPack: |
| 20:07.25 | CIA-44 | - set some SVN Properties |
| 20:12.13 | DARKGuy | Ellipsis: lmao |
| 20:12.38 | DARKGuy | your mom looks Fisker-y to me |
| 20:13.12 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:13.32 | Dashkal | ok now, that's just cruel, Ellipsis :p |
| 20:14.06 | Ellipsis | slaps Fisker- around a bit with an overused mIRC script |
| 20:14.26 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77792 10LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0.lua: LibBars-1.0: fix some logic flaws when moving bars between groups (thanks to oridan on the wowace forums) |
| 20:14.26 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:14.40 | DARKGuy | slaps Ellipsis and Fisker- with a large Dashkal + |
| 20:14.53 | Fisker- | no |
| 20:14.54 | Dashkal | I take that back, _that_ was cruel |
| 20:14.59 | DARKGuy | lol! |
| 20:15.10 | Dashkal | Do you know where that Dashkal has _been_? |
| 20:15.16 | nevcairiel | poor Ellipsis, how did she deserve that? |
| 20:15.35 | Ellipsis | lays on the floor sobbing |
| 20:15.38 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: ... I wouldn't want to -know- :p |
| 20:15.42 | DARKGuy | Aww :( |
| 20:15.48 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.48 | DARKGuy | but Fisker- started it! :( |
| 20:18.16 | Fisker- | has one of them manic mondays |
| 20:18.18 | Fisker- | ON A FRIDAY |
| 20:18.18 | Fisker- | BAWW |
| 20:18.22 | Fisker- | destroys #wowace |
| 20:18.50 | Dashkal | WTB fast forward to 6pm please |
| 20:19.04 | Ellipsis | WTB rewind to 3 weeks ago please |
| 20:19.12 | Fisker- | WTB your mom |
| 20:19.17 | Ellipsis | WTS |
| 20:19.31 | ag` | <fisker@microsoft.com>$ rm -rf * |
| 20:19.34 | Dashkal | what was so good about three weeks ago |
| 20:19.48 | Ellipsis | it was 3 weeks farther away from today |
| 20:19.48 | DARKGuy | WTS broken Fisker- |
| 20:19.49 | Dashkal | s/*/\// |
| 20:20.03 | Fisker- | macfag`_ they don't use linux |
| 20:20.03 | Fisker- | baww |
| 20:20.09 | Dashkal | ouch, not a good day I take it |
| 20:20.09 | Fisker- | unknown command, etc. |
| 20:20.14 | Dashkal | format c: |
| 20:20.24 | Fisker- | system drives can't be formatted |
| 20:20.25 | ag` | I installed cygwin on your box |
| 20:20.26 | Fisker- | baww again |
| 20:20.35 | Fisker- | you don't have access to my box |
| 20:20.35 | Fisker- | :( |
| 20:20.37 | Dashkal | shotgun meet HDD? |
| 20:20.44 | ag` | you think I don't |
| 20:20.57 | ag` | which is nice actually |
| 20:21.05 | Fisker- | you don't |
| 20:21.16 | Fisker- | (fact) |
| 20:21.25 | ag` | right |
| 20:22.50 | Dashkal | file* f; int* foo; calloc(foo, 500); f = fopen("c:\windows\kernel32.dll"); for (;;) {fwrite(f, foo, 500);} |
| 20:22.52 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: what was 3 weeks further away from today? |
| 20:23.06 | Ellipsis | Ackis: er, a day three weeks ago |
| 20:23.23 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: ahh just a day :P thought it was an event |
| 20:23.44 | Fisker- | i'm a business jerk |
| 20:23.59 | AckisWork | s/busness// |
| 20:24.03 | AckisWork | damn |
| 20:24.04 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:24.41 | CIA-44 | 03kunda * r77793 10EnhancedStackSplit/EnhancedStackSplit.lua: EnhancedStackSplit: zhTW update (thanks NightOwl) |
| 20:26.18 | DARKGuy | hahaha |
| 20:26.23 | DARKGuy | can you believe this site has random shiz |
| 20:26.23 | DARKGuy | http://gay.icynipple.net/?C=M;O=A |
| 20:26.25 | DARKGuy | SFW :P |
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| 20:27.18 | nevcairiel | i am supposed to see some dir with shit in it, right? |
| 20:29.33 | erica647 | Funkydude: Wondering if you might have any interest in including a module in basicchatmods... it's at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9129-BHide.html |
| 20:29.49 | DARKGuy | lol nevcairiel |
| 20:29.52 | Guest87359 | pitbull frames can go up/down instead of just left/right now, right? |
| 20:29.53 | DARKGuy | yeah, random stuff |
| 20:29.58 | DARKGuy | I laughed at the domain name though |
| 20:30.23 | DARKGuy | you'd think it's some pr0n site |
| 20:30.24 | DARKGuy | but no |
| 20:31.30 | Guest87359 | i could have sworn i used to be able to do that. and now? i can't find it. |
| 20:31.52 | Ellipsis | change the bar side to center and it will grow vertically |
| 20:32.32 | CIA-44 | 03darkclaw * r77794 10FuBar_AtlasFu/Readme.html: |
| 20:32.32 | CIA-44 | FuBar_AtlasFu: |
| 20:32.32 | CIA-44 | - Changed the Readme files link to a Mac OS X WoWAceUpdater for running in Leopard. very nice one. |
| 20:33.44 | Guest87359 | Ellipsis: < -aestil |
| 20:33.48 | Guest87359 | so, i don't get it. |
| 20:34.04 | Guest87359 | i want the health bar to go from top to bottom, as a defiicit, like i have grid set. |
| 20:34.05 | Ellipsis | e.g., player -> bars -> health -> side = "center" |
| 20:34.11 | Guest87359 | i have that. |
| 20:34.34 | Ellipsis | well, um, make your frame taller and narrower |
| 20:34.37 | Guest87359 | and its growing the normal way. |
| 20:34.41 | Ellipsis | and enable deficit if you want it to be a deficit |
| 20:37.37 | Guest87359 | well, when i make a tall, thin frame |
| 20:37.47 | Guest87359 | its still doesn't look right, is it not possible? |
| 20:37.55 | Guest87359 | i want health on the left, and mana on the right |
| 20:37.59 | Guest87359 | tall thin frame |
| 20:38.07 | Guest87359 | and i want it to grow down as you lose health/mana |
| 20:38.27 | Guest87359 | i can achieve the correct look, but it does not grow the bar down. it goes from side to side still. |
| 20:38.30 | Guest87359 | also screws up the text. |
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| 20:38.39 | Ellipsis | did you change the bar sides for both health and mana? |
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| 20:38.54 | Guest87359 | i put center for health |
| 20:38.56 | Guest87359 | and right for mana |
| 20:38.57 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 20:39.03 | Ellipsis | both need to be center |
| 20:39.03 | Guest87359 | so i could get the mana on the right side of the health |
| 20:39.13 | Guest87359 | when i do that they both stack on top of each other |
| 20:39.16 | Guest87359 | instead of left/right |
| 20:39.17 | Ellipsis | you can fix that with the "position" option rather than the "side" option. |
| 20:39.18 | Guest87359 | health/mana |
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| 20:39.19 | *** mode/#wowace [+v AnduinLothar] by ChanServ |
| 20:39.34 | nevcairiel | pitbull config sounds weird |
| 20:39.52 | Ellipsis | the layout system is...quirky |
| 20:40.07 | erica647 | it'll nibble your haypellets? |
| 20:41.21 | Guest87359 | Ellipsis: you were right, but wrong |
| 20:41.24 | Guest87359 | the bars need to be set to left/right |
| 20:41.26 | Guest87359 | not center |
| 20:41.29 | Guest87359 | and then it works correctly |
| 20:41.40 | Guest87359 | would be nice for a meta setting, that made that more obvious. |
| 20:42.01 | Guest87359 | like just a check box that says 'vertical health/mana' |
| 20:42.22 | Ellipsis | er, that's what I meant |
| 20:42.26 | Ellipsis | bah, sorry |
| 20:42.35 | Ellipsis | I'm really exhausted today, I screwed up my explanation >_< |
| 20:43.31 | nevcairiel | get sleep! |
| 20:43.40 | Ellipsis | sleep is not the issue, just worn out from cleaning and packing :P |
| 20:43.46 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 20:46.58 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * ra4aa04b 10/: Merge Horde Hellfire guides together |
| 20:47.00 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rf74a6c9 10/: Weekly build 2.4.2.29-Beta |
| 20:47.01 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r4fe2ea9 10/: Horde Blade's Edge coord fix |
| 20:47.01 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * raa1c3d9 10/: Fix Tuurem FedEx quests in Ally guides |
| 20:47.01 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r0dc374d 10/: |
| 20:47.01 | CIA-44 | tourguide: Merge branch 'master' into debugging |
| 20:47.03 | CIA-44 | tourguide: Conflicts: |
| 20:47.05 | CIA-44 | tourguide: Debug/questdebug.rb |
| 20:47.07 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rab2a8ab 10/: Fix resetting a guide not clearing QIDs |
| 20:47.09 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r98226da 10/: Remove guide debugger from addon, has been replaced by offline ruby scripts |
| 20:47.12 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rab44937 10/: Rejigger Ally Zangar a bit |
| 20:47.14 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * re9bd200 10/: Allow for "neutral" guides by not passing a when registering |
| 20:47.17 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rf8f425a 10/: Fix guide sequencing |
| 20:47.19 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rf8f425a 10/: Fix guide sequencing |
| 20:47.21 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rf8f75fd 10/: Tiny Ally Zangar tweak |
| 20:47.33 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rf770099 10/: Update changelog for 2.4.2.27-Beta |
| 20:47.35 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * ra4aa04b 10/: Merge Horde Hellfire guides together |
| 20:47.37 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r257d44f 10/: Various fixes to Ally guides from debug script |
| 20:47.39 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r85bd381 10/: Update tekkonfig |
| 20:47.41 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r24b404b 10/: Streamline Outland quest order in SSO guide |
| 20:47.43 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r5426246 10/: Update changelog for 2.4.2.28-Beta |
| 20:47.45 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * re86f6cc 10/: Merge commit '2.4.2.29-Beta' |
| 20:47.47 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rd6643fe 10/: Add bad char finder to debug script |
| 20:47.47 | nevcairiel | sees CIA-44 getting flodded out |
| 20:47.49 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r257d44f 10/: Various fixes to Ally guides from debug script |
| 20:47.57 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rf4e7725 10/: Ally QID fixes |
| 20:47.59 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r390891c 10/: Fix warlock-only fly obj in Ally Redridge |
| 20:47.59 | Guest87359 | Ellipsis: need a tag for light blue |
| 20:48.01 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r4bee903 10/: Minor fix to quest order in Ally Ashenvale 22-24 |
| 20:48.03 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r6a3b1d2 10/: Merge commit '2.4.2.28-Beta' |
| 20:48.05 | Guest87359 | like, the default mana blue |
| 20:48.07 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rfbb908c 10/: Tweak bad title case debugger |
| 20:48.08 | Matrix110| | spam |
| 20:48.09 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r84b2e0a 10/: |
| 20:48.11 | CIA-44 | tourguide: Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/kuroshiro/tourguide.git |
| 20:48.12 | AckisWork | wow Tekkub |
| 20:48.13 | CIA-44 | tourguide: Conflicts: |
| 20:48.14 | DARKGuy | holy wtf |
| 20:48.15 | CIA-44 | tourguide: TourGuide_Neutral/70_SSO_Dailies.lua |
| 20:48.17 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * re30c84f 10/: Remove a bad hearth obj from Ally Tanaris |
| 20:48.17 | Guest87359 | Tekkub: you fail. |
| 20:48.19 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * r527c854 10/: Merge branch 'master' into debugging |
| 20:48.20 | Guest87359 | jez |
| 20:48.23 | CIA-44 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07debugging * rc3af83c 10/: Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/kuroshiro/tourguide.git |
| 20:48.26 | CIA-44 | (30 lines omitted) |
| 20:48.27 | Matrix110| | Tekkub stop! |
| 20:48.35 | DARKGuy | for the sake of IRC |
| 20:48.37 | Tekkub | I'm sorry, want me to go back to that *horribly flooding* github bot? |
| 20:48.41 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 20:48.48 | AckisWork | CIA-44(30 lines omitted) |
| 20:48.59 | durcyn | why even have crap report in here, just leave it in the reporting channel |
| 20:49.02 | Ellipsis | Guest87359: you could just use [PowerColor] :P |
| 20:49.32 | DARKGuy | It's weird, why does git generate more changelogs than SVN ? |
| 20:49.35 | Tekkub | ace doesn't have a "reporting channel" |
| 20:49.44 | Ellipsis | what happened to wowace-cia? |
| 20:49.50 | AckisWork | Tekkub: http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#2.8 |
| 20:50.04 | AckisWork | wowace-cia was around last night? |
| 20:50.05 | durcyn | Ellipsis: #wowuidev-commits |
| 20:50.24 | Tekkub | AckisWork, doesn't apply, every one was a relevant tested change |
| 20:50.43 | Ellipsis | or that |
| 20:50.48 | AckisWork | Tekkub: rule is don't spam |
| 20:51.13 | Ellipsis | technically none of those rules apply since it's not the wowace svn he's using :P |
| 20:51.28 | Tekkub | yea there is that minor detail as well |
| 20:51.35 | AckisWork | then block that shit from spamming the channel |
| 20:51.38 | AckisWork | problem solved |
| 20:51.47 | Tekkub | and if there's a commit channel now, why is the ace CIA bot not using it? |
| 20:51.54 | Matrix110| | it is |
| 20:51.59 | AckisWork | this is wowace not tekkub |
| 20:52.08 | Matrix110| | #wowace-cia has all comit messages that are in here |
| 20:52.10 | Tekkub | <CIA-44> darkclaw * r77794 FuBar_AtlasFu/Readme.html: |
| 20:52.34 | Matrix110| | (22:32:19) (+CIA-49) darkclaw * r77794 FuBar_AtlasFu/Readme.html: |
| 20:52.38 | Matrix110| | in the cia chan |
| 20:52.46 | Tekkub | and it's in here |
| 20:52.57 | Matrix110| | Oh you meant that |
| 20:53.12 | Matrix110| | Well I dont know why its still in here guess because it always was :D |
| 20:53.28 | Tekkub | well my commits have always been here too, so problem solved |
| 20:53.42 | Ellipsis | yay! now we can have cake |
| 20:54.07 | AckisWork | or you could not spam your commits here since it's not on the ace svn nor an ace mod? |
| 20:54.08 | durcyn | you made me a cake, Ellipsis? you didn't have to do that. |
| 20:54.24 | Stanzilla | Ackis: ssssh! get back in your corner! |
| 20:54.48 | Matrix110| | Best way to solve it |
| 20:54.50 | Tekkub | AckisWork, you really fail you know that |
| 20:54.52 | Matrix110| | Less commits |
| 20:54.52 | Matrix110| | ! |
| 20:55.00 | durcyn | AckisWork: tekkub was here before you even knew how to spell ace, get off his balls already. |
| 20:55.14 | Ellipsis | clearly the best solution is to never commit any changes to any addons ever again |
| 20:55.15 | durcyn | Tekkub: is there any way to snip the long commit messages on branch merges, btw? |
| 20:55.17 | Ellipsis | users don't need updates |
| 20:55.35 | durcyn | i'm pretty sure the only valid complaint is the number of lines |
| 20:55.41 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 20:55.46 | nevcairiel | not like we read all of those anyway |
| 20:55.49 | nevcairiel | if it starts spamming |
| 20:55.57 | nevcairiel | or only output the master commits |
| 20:56.00 | nevcairiel | not debugging branch :P |
| 20:56.05 | AckisWork | durcyn: what? for bitching at him for spamming the channel and not giving a fuck about it? |
| 20:56.08 | Tekkub | durcyn, well yea I've been considering fixing the github bot to only do one message per push instead of per commit, but after all the bitching that was done about it in the past and whining that I should use CIA... I really don't give a fuck about that now |
| 20:56.33 | AckisWork | I posted the no spam rule and he didn't give a fuck about it |
| 20:56.42 | durcyn | AckisWork: go take a walk, get some air |
| 20:56.49 | AckisWork | durcyn: fuck off |
| 20:56.54 | Tekkub | AckisWork, you realize I WROTE that rules page? |
| 20:57.04 | AckisWork | Tekkub: why don't you follow that rules page then? |
| 20:57.14 | Tekkub | because it doesn't apply |
| 20:57.15 | AckisWork | or is it one set of rules for normal people and one set for the "elites"? |
| 20:57.26 | Tekkub | no spam was put in because of the packaging script shitting itself |
| 20:58.12 | AckisWork | so then why don't you say "oops, wasn't supposed to do that" like I say after 2 commits together? |
| 20:58.22 | AckisWork | oh wait, it's because you basically don't give a flying fuck? |
| 20:58.30 | Tekkub | because people did that shit too, and I don't :P |
| 20:58.40 | Tekkub | and no, I don't give a flying fuck |
| 20:59.22 | *** join/#wowace DragonWin (n=goofy@www.rageguild.info) |
| 20:59.40 | AckisWork | cool, great attitude |
| 21:00.05 | Tekkub | oh look, I'm not giving a fuck again! |
| 21:00.17 | Tekkub | OMG what will I do, someone doesn't like me cause I'm mean! |
| 21:00.35 | *** join/#wowace zethe (n=zethe@97-81-103-137.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com) |
| 21:00.36 | Tekkub | I'm going to go hide in my room and cry all night, see you tomorrow |
| 21:00.43 | AckisWork | no, you're a jackass and you're faggot git shit should be banned from this channel |
| 21:00.55 | durcyn | p.s. /ignore #wowace *CIA*!*CIA*@.* |
| 21:01.00 | Ellipsis | your* |
| 21:01.17 | AckisWork | no, I want to see cia notes in this channel, I just don't want my screen filled up because Tekkub fucks up |
| 21:01.53 | Ellipsis | but it's ok to have your screen filled up when <arbitrary chinese translator> commits toc bumps for 500 addons at once? |
| 21:02.14 | AckisWork | what happens to them when they do it? they get shit on |
| 21:02.29 | AckisWork | so that goes back to one set of rules for the elites and another for the rest of the people |
| 21:02.31 | CIA-44 | 03funkydude * r77795 10BigWigs_MC/Shazzrah.lua: BigWigs_MC: Shazzrah: bugfix |
| 21:02.34 | Ellipsis | yes, because they are intentionally doing a very bad thing |
| 21:02.49 | Ellipsis | Tekkub knows what he's doing, those messages were all legitimate commits to fix and update his addons |
| 21:02.56 | Ellipsis | there's nothing wrong with it being broadcast |
| 21:03.05 | AckisWork | http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules#2.8 |
| 21:03.07 | Ellipsis | if you want to see only non-tekkub commit messages, go to wowace-cia |
| 21:03.08 | durcyn | did you seriously bring classism into source control commit message reporting |
| 21:03.39 | AckisWork | wowace channel, not Tekkub personal channel of idiocy |
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| 21:04.29 | Ellipsis | idiocy? |
| 21:04.59 | durcyn | AckisWork: also, some diplomacy in lodging your complaint would go a long way, fwiw. calling people jackasses and idiots and faggots tends to discourage them from caring what you say |
| 21:05.26 | AckisWork | durcyn: as I said before, fuck off |
| 21:05.33 | Ellipsis | sighs |
| 21:05.39 | durcyn | fucks off. |
| 21:06.02 | Tekkub | fucks durcyn off |
| 21:06.05 | AckisWork | and my first comment was posting the rules which don't apply to Tekkub apparently |
| 21:06.08 | Ellipsis | watches |
| 21:06.08 | Tekkub | and Ellipsis |
| 21:06.15 | Ellipsis | enjoys |
| 21:06.25 | nevcairiel | gets popcorn |
| 21:06.25 | Tekkub | fuckoffs for everyone! |
| 21:06.26 | Ellipsis | the rules apply to the wowace svn exactly as that page states |
| 21:06.29 | Tekkub | get in line |
| 21:06.32 | Ellipsis | git != svn |
| 21:06.36 | AckisWork | wowace channel |
| 21:06.38 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!8ee55383@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis] by Cairenn |
| 21:06.43 | *** kick/#wowace [AckisWork!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 21:06.52 | *** join/#wowace spode- (n=spode@85.134.127.203) |
| 21:06.55 | Tekkub | Cairenn, may be slow, but we loves here |
| 21:07.00 | Zariel | git > svn thats why it need more commits |
| 21:07.02 | Tekkub | *her |
| 21:07.04 | Ellipsis | gives Cairenn a cookie |
| 21:07.15 | Tekkub | She who laughs last... is slow in the head |
| 21:07.22 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis] by Cairenn |
| 21:07.26 | *** kick/#wowace [Ackis!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 21:07.26 | *** join/#wowace Ackis (n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 21:07.43 | nevcairiel | did he always have Troll in his host? :P |
| 21:07.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+b ackis!*@*] by Cairenn |
| 21:07.48 | *** kick/#wowace [Ackis!n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Cairenn) |
| 21:07.58 | Ellipsis | +b *!*@*/Troll/* imo |
| 21:08.05 | Ellipsis | nobody wants them anyway :P |
| 21:08.18 | Cairenn | I'm sure it is only a temp ban, so no need to get all stressed about it |
| 21:08.20 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.25 | durcyn | that's anti-trollish discrimination. no one likes a racist, Ellipsis. |
| 21:08.26 | Ellipsis | Tekkub wins |
| 21:08.33 | Guest87359 | how do you put the text of who you are healing in the text of your cast bar? does quartz have dogtags now? |
| 21:08.51 | Tekkub | Cairenn, as temp as tracking down that bitch Kael takes :) |
| 21:08.59 | Cairenn | he'll be able to come back in after he's had a time out |
| 21:09.04 | durcyn | Guest87359: it's in the Player castbar options, look for "Target Name" |
| 21:09.25 | durcyn | and no, quartz does not use dogtags. |
| 21:09.28 | Guest87359 | ty |
| 21:09.32 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77796 10AckisRecipeList/: AckisRecipeList: Removed |
| 21:09.43 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 21:09.48 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77797 10TIRaid/: TIRaid: Removed |
| 21:09.51 | Ellipsis | rofl |
| 21:09.58 | Ellipsis | wow |
| 21:10.13 | erikh | Tekkub: lemme guess... git-svn dcommit :) |
| 21:10.18 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77798 10AltTabber/: AltTabber: Removed |
| 21:10.29 | Tekkub | quick someone take away his SVN acct! |
| 21:10.34 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77799 10Querier/: Querier: Removed |
| 21:10.35 | Tekkub | *snicker* |
| 21:10.48 | Ellipsis | he's spamming our channel with removals :( |
| 21:10.59 | Tekkub | OMG SPAM! |
| 21:11.07 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77800 10WelfareEpics/: WelfareEpics: Removed |
| 21:11.13 | Tekkub | I need to name something "Queerier" in his honor |
| 21:11.15 | erikh | Tekkub: it's ok, if it helps any, my cow-orkers get pissed too until they need me to merge a branch |
| 21:11.32 | erikh | because it'll take me 10 minutes to do what takes all day with SVN |
| 21:11.41 | Tekkub | yea I had to fix many SVN fuckups at work too |
| 21:11.48 | Tekkub | thank god I got them into git |
| 21:12.09 | Tekkub | and no, I don't have nor want access to the ace SVN anymore |
| 21:12.21 | CIA-44 | 03ackis * r77801 10BigWigs_KalecgosHealth/: BigWigs_KalecgosHealth: Removed |
| 21:12.52 | Tekkub | *cry* you're all losing out on such wonderful addons because you supported me |
| 21:13.02 | Tekkub | oh, wait... they're still in the version history |
| 21:13.29 | nevcairiel | can we point some guys out that you go out on? :P |
| 21:14.04 | Ellipsis | I wish I had your superpowers Tekkub |
| 21:14.14 | Tekkub | nevcairiel, uh... what? |
| 21:14.14 | Ellipsis | some days it would be really convenient to make people and their code go away entirely |
| 21:14.42 | Tekkub | heh, that wasn't my powers :P |
| 21:14.50 | durcyn | Tekkub: pretty sure he's calling in a hit on people who never should've had svn accounts in the first place |
| 21:14.54 | Tekkub | he was pissy at the start, my commits just set him off |
| 21:15.05 | Tekkub | he made an ass out of himself all on his own |
| 21:15.11 | nevcairiel | durcyn understood me :P |
| 21:15.22 | Tekkub | I mean... everyone KNOWS I don't give a flying fuck... he just now realized? |
| 21:15.30 | durcyn | so if you ever see "Alar" or "LordFarlander" around, sic 'em. |
| 21:15.44 | Tekkub | oh, yea, heh |
| 21:16.01 | Tekkub | I'll leave Alar be, cause he was actually somewhat diplomatic about our bitching |
| 21:16.13 | nevcairiel | so was the other guy |
| 21:16.15 | Tekkub | as for the one who "Upgraded" Kennel to Ace2 |
| 21:16.18 | Tekkub | *snicker* |
| 21:16.20 | nevcairiel | after we forcefully renamed his shit |
| 21:16.26 | Tekkub | I just sit back and giggle |
| 21:16.50 | Tekkub | he could at least come up with some good names for his shit |
| 21:16.54 | durcyn | nevcairiel: he came back after that and tried to wedge his shit into PeriodicTable |
| 21:17.03 | nevcairiel | really? |
| 21:17.04 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 21:17.12 | Tekkub | I expect to see "Actionbar" and "Minimap" from him before the end of the year |
| 21:17.19 | Ellipsis | yeah, I thought petandmountandkitchensinkdatabase got stuck in some corner of PT? |
| 21:17.24 | nevcairiel | did toadkiller remove his shit from PT now anyway? |
| 21:17.30 | nevcairiel | we kinda "asked" him to do it |
| 21:17.32 | nevcairiel | or we would |
| 21:17.43 | Tekkub | I bitched him out about that lib and how he should be using PT |
| 21:17.54 | durcyn | i still see LPT-3.1-Autobar cluttering my fs |
| 21:17.58 | Tekkub | so it's my fault that he took that as "you should put that into PT" I guess |
| 21:18.09 | Ellipsis | ooh, someone to blame! |
| 21:18.19 | erikh | err, I'm still new here, but just so I'm clear: all this drama is about people contributing code? |
| 21:18.45 | durcyn | erikh: some who should be, some who shouldn't be, and those who love them |
| 21:19.00 | erikh | heh... it just seems that's a good problem to have is all |
| 21:20.18 | Ellipsis | well, some of our problems are with the people who complain about / yell at those who are contributing |
| 21:20.37 | Tekkub | erikh, uh... the drama is hard to explain |
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| 21:20.53 | Tekkub | in short, I used to use Ace and I don't anymore, so I guess I'm not allowed to be here |
| 21:20.57 | erikh | are they separate repositories or is the whole of wowace svn one big fatty repository? |
| 21:21.02 | durcyn | pretty sure ackis was itching for a fight before you showed up, Tekkub |
| 21:21.09 | Tekkub | the ace svn is a big fat free-for-all repo |
| 21:21.20 | Ellipsis | yeah, he seemed to be in a pretty bad mood all day |
| 21:21.26 | Tekkub | which was part of the reason I stopped using ace |
| 21:21.33 | erikh | yeah, at the risk of sounding out-of-line that just sounds like a recipe for disaster |
| 21:21.43 | Tekkub | durcyn, yea it looks like he was looking for a reason to leave |
| 21:21.51 | Ellipsis | dead horse warning: we all love to hate the svn structure |
| 21:21.51 | Tekkub | I'm happy to obblige (sp?) |
| 21:22.00 | erikh | fair enough |
| 21:22.17 | Ellipsis | oblige |
| 21:22.28 | nevcairiel | the svn structure hsa to die |
| 21:22.36 | Tekkub | erikh, and as for the other people mentioned, mostly just people that use the SVN but don't come on IRC |
| 21:22.47 | Tekkub | and thus really get nothing out of it except for a free repo |
| 21:22.54 | erikh | evangelism warning: wowace seems like a textbook application for DVCS like hg/git/darcs |
| 21:23.00 | Tekkub | and the whole point of ace is the community |
| 21:23.04 | erikh | I'm told mercurial (hg) works really well with windows |
| 21:23.25 | Tekkub | git works fine on windows as well, it's ust convincing people to change |
| 21:23.37 | Guest87359 | there should be a way to import cool cowtip settings |
| 21:23.42 | Guest87359 | i hate messing with it every time. |
| 21:23.49 | Tekkub | curseforge supports hg and git, it's an attempt to get people to move away from the big all in one repo |
| 21:23.53 | erikh | yeah, I've heard there were issues, but I tried it out last night on windows and seemed to work great |
| 21:24.06 | Cairenn | wowi has svn as well |
| 21:24.12 | Tekkub | but the ace svn isn't going to ever be locked to force people into it |
| 21:24.28 | Tekkub | yes WoWI and GCode have free SVNs too :) |
| 21:24.40 | Tekkub | WoWI's will deploy releases for you |
| 21:25.04 | Tekkub | curseforge is supposed to as well, but I've not had great luck with that in my testings... |
| 21:25.27 | Cheads | Tekkub StealYourCarbon uses 10.91mb according to performanceFU ... am I missing something or could that be correct? |
| 21:25.30 | nevcairiel | CF still has alot of glitches |
| 21:25.36 | *** part/#wowace fry (i=fry@unaffiliated/fry) |
| 21:25.38 | nevcairiel | but its getting better |
| 21:25.45 | Tekkub | Cheads, yea you broke something, it doesn't use that much |
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| 21:25.58 | Tekkub | someone else reported that a while back, then fixed it himself |
| 21:26.28 | erikh | Tekkub: curious, how does git handle windows permissions? |
| 21:26.31 | Cheads | only thing I've added is water (upgrade checked) |
| 21:26.48 | Tekkub | erikh, fuck if I know, permissions break my brain |
| 21:26.54 | erikh | heh, fair enough. |
| 21:26.58 | charon | erikh: git currently only tracks the +x flag... i think for windows it has some heuristics to detect what's executable |
| 21:27.01 | Tekkub | I just turn off the thing that track file mode |
| 21:27.07 | Tekkub | *tracks |
| 21:27.18 | erikh | ah |
| 21:27.30 | charon | it does put a full (6-digit octal) mode in diffs and index etc, but only the x bits are relevant |
| 21:27.48 | erikh | charon: ah, so it won't hold sticky/setuid |
| 21:27.50 | erikh | interesting. |
| 21:28.00 | charon | (IIRC, and all that) |
| 21:28.14 | Tekkub | I buggered up the filemodes on one of our work projects... but I was running the actual app on linux and editing via samba |
| 21:28.18 | erikh | well neat. sorry for the inquisition, I just rarely use windows for anything other than wasting time |
| 21:28.19 | Tekkub | but noone seemed to care |
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| 21:28.40 | charon | erikh: i don't use it, but i helped someone with msysgit the other day |
| 21:28.43 | trapni | waves |
| 21:28.53 | erikh | charon: yeah, that's what I have installed |
| 21:29.10 | Tekkub | shit, we mentioned linux we get a gentoo dev |
| 21:29.25 | selckin | run! |
| 21:29.53 | Cheads | hmm nothing added and still at 10.9mb after a reload.. strange |
| 21:30.15 | Tekkub | Cheads, disable everything cept SYC and see what it is |
| 21:30.46 | Guest87359 | will kgpanels automatically resize a panel parented to GridLayoutFrame? |
| 21:31.11 | Guest87359 | i'm pretty sure it won't. |
| 21:31.44 | *** part/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub) |
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| 21:31.50 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 21:31.56 | Tekkub | shit, fuck you window focus |
| 21:32.06 | DARKGuy | No, kgpanels doesn't have an autoresize method |
| 21:32.08 | DARKGuy | sucks though. |
| 21:32.09 | DARKGuy | Well, |
| 21:32.15 | DARKGuy | you can make it be 100% and 100% height |
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| 21:32.23 | DARKGuy | but it won't work if the grid frame resizes again -.-" |
| 21:32.53 | Guest87359 | i need to script an on size change. Ellipsis you must help me. |
| 21:32.58 | Guest87359 | not multiple panels atm. |
| 21:33.02 | Guest87359 | just a simple script with kgpanels |
| 21:33.22 | Guest87359 | the event should be something like onsizechange for GridLayoutFrame |
| 21:34.21 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: http://ace.pastey.net/90630 .. TourGuide issue? LightHeaded issue? something else? |
| 21:35.29 | Tekkub | uhm... I want to guess LH since it's being loaded and the error is in dongle |
| 21:36.14 | Tekkub | if type(obj.Initialize) == "function" then |
| 21:36.14 | Tekkub | safecall(obj.Initialize, obj) |
| 21:36.19 | Tekkub | somebody's init method |
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| 21:37.28 | Tekkub | yea look at the trace... I request info from LH... it loads something (data addon) |
| 21:37.34 | Tekkub | let me guess, happens on load? |
| 21:37.54 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:37.56 | nevcairiel | on login |
| 21:38.26 | Tekkub | yea dongle's init has some issues with addons that trigger other addons to load... |
| 21:38.42 | Tekkub | *hrm* |
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| 21:39.39 | Tekkub | try addonloader? |
| 21:39.42 | Tekkub | it's the sex |
| 21:39.47 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:40.09 | nevcairiel | will try |
| 21:40.11 | Tekkub | you have the latest LH as well? |
| 21:40.17 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:40.21 | Tekkub | I've not run into that error, but I use AL |
| 21:41.44 | Guest87359 | hey, recount is ugly. is there something that makes it less so? |
| 21:41.48 | Dashkal | weee, I'm glad I was at lunch |
| 21:42.25 | Tekkub | oh, I wonder if there's a "Goodbye fuckers" post on the forums |
| 21:42.42 | Tekkub | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14129.0;topicseen |
| 21:42.49 | Tekkub | hehe, he know I'm the wikimaster? |
| 21:43.10 | erikh | holy crap |
| 21:43.27 | erikh | Theo De Raddt didn't cry this much when NetBSD booted him |
| 21:43.34 | Dashkal | methinks the boy takes things too seriously |
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| 21:43.47 | Tekkub | Dashkal, WoW is serious shit |
| 21:43.53 | Dashkal | apparently so |
| 21:43.59 | Guest87359 | what did you guys do to ackis? |
| 21:44.02 | Guest87359 | i missed it. |
| 21:44.11 | erikh | git-svn dcommit happened |
| 21:44.12 | Dashkal | ackis went all apeshit over a merge spam in the channel |
| 21:44.16 | Tekkub | so now, I think we should come up with a third set of rules to impose on people that we just don't like |
| 21:44.19 | Dashkal | or that |
| 21:44.19 | erikh | much crying about cia spam |
| 21:44.22 | Yssaril | ahhh the irony "hey you sucK but can you help me delet my stuff" :P |
| 21:44.28 | Tekkub | erikh, no, git-push |
| 21:44.40 | Tekkub | it wasn't even mergespam |
| 21:44.43 | Hofer | Could i post a question about the Ace3 tutorial? I'm getting an error :( |
| 21:44.50 | Tekkub | it was just a bunch of commits I did today |
| 21:44.52 | Dashkal | heh, I just saw the spam and skimmed |
| 21:44.57 | Yssaril | ~asktoask |
| 21:44.58 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 21:45.07 | Hofer | rokay |
| 21:45.27 | Guest87359 | and it made him so angry he had to leave? |
| 21:45.33 | Guest87359 | perhaps sand in the vagina was the problem |
| 21:45.44 | erikh | or low levels of prozac |
| 21:45.47 | Dashkal | he decided to call tekkub on "rules" and how the "elietes" were above and such bullshit |
| 21:45.48 | Tekkub | yea I think it just set him off is all |
| 21:46.06 | Dashkal | hai be nice / emo kitteh is sensitiv |
| 21:46.31 | Tekkub | yea he was quoting the ace svn rule page at me... which was mostly written BY me, and I don't use the ace SVN anymore |
| 21:46.34 | durcyn | his head wasn't level to start with, and he found the excuse he was looking for. |
| 21:46.40 | durcyn | anyway, let's move on. i like pie, do you like pie? |
| 21:46.42 | Tekkub | so I obviously have a second set of rules |
| 21:46.50 | Dashkal | Apple would be excelent about now |
| 21:46.50 | nevcairiel | He can be glad we're not doing the elite thing :P |
| 21:47.09 | nevcairiel | sometimes i wish we would, though |
| 21:47.16 | nevcairiel | 90% of the svn code would be gone |
| 21:47.19 | nevcairiel | *dreams* |
| 21:47.28 | Tekkub | nazi administration is ALWAYS a good thing |
| 21:47.30 | durcyn | Yeah, start with that Bartender thing! |
| 21:47.31 | durcyn | nm |
| 21:47.42 | nevcairiel | yeah srsly |
| 21:47.43 | Dashkal | Hey wait a second, I'm coding on curseforge and I don't use ace. Since I'm not in the eliete does that mean I should gtfo too? *sighs* |
| 21:48.00 | Tekkub | for starters, lock the SVN and force everyone to move to project repos on WoWI/GCode/CF |
| 21:48.03 | Tekkub | :) |
| 21:48.32 | Cheads | Tekkub if I disable the mods: Auc-Stat-Simple and Auc-Stat-StdDev (from AuctioneerAdvanced) then it doesn't use much memory |
| 21:48.39 | Tekkub | Dashkal, yea that was his other arguement, that I shouldn't even be here because I don't use ace/svn |
| 21:48.47 | Dashkal | I read over it |
| 21:48.50 | nevcairiel | that would kill wowace, not good |
| 21:48.55 | Dashkal | ^^^^ |
| 21:49.04 | nevcairiel | we dont want the name to die |
| 21:49.08 | Tekkub | Cheads, sounds like it's getting blamed for Auc's memory, lovely |
| 21:49.16 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 21:49.18 | Cheads | yeah |
| 21:49.18 | nevcairiel | good for auc |
| 21:49.23 | Tekkub | wonder why... LibStub for some wacky reason? |
| 21:49.32 | Hofer | I'm at the part where I'm converting the WelcomeHome variables to work with the AceDB configurations. It's getting hung up in WoW at this: InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame(self.optionsFrame) under the ChatCommand function. But in WoW it points to some line #180 and my code only has about 100 lines. |
| 21:49.34 | nevcairiel | i never saw that happen |
| 21:49.38 | nevcairiel | auc always kept its mem |
| 21:49.46 | Tekkub | LibStub is the only common code |
| 21:50.20 | Andune | is there an Ace (or other) addon that blocks the annoying red "you can't do that" messages on the screen (particularly in combat)? "You do not have enough energy" |
| 21:50.21 | nevcairiel | I never fully understood the methods of mem blame in wow |
| 21:50.28 | nevcairiel | so no idea if libstub can screw that up |
| 21:51.19 | nevcairiel | Andune: ErrorMonster iirc |
| 21:51.19 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: not sure I agree with that, but I'm still living in 2 years ago when ace meant something |
| 21:51.19 | Tekkub | I *though* memory blame with embeds got all fixed though |
| 21:51.19 | Andune | nevcairiel: ah yes that was it! TY! |
| 21:51.20 | Tekkub | *thought |
| 21:51.26 | Funkeh` | did I miss some drama with ackis |
| 21:51.32 | Zariel | yes |
| 21:51.41 | Tekkub | Funkeh`, yea it was good shit |
| 21:51.47 | Tekkub | I WIN! |
| 21:51.49 | Funkeh` | refresh me whilst Im alt tabbing this raid quick |
| 21:52.01 | Tekkub | also, I need to inform you of the new "elite rules" |
| 21:52.03 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: i still wish we could restore that state .. maybe some day .. ;) |
| 21:52.18 | durcyn | Funkeh`: git spam. ackis decides to get rude about it. end result: bant |
| 21:52.27 | Tekkub | Funkeh`, in short, he snapped when I pushed a bunch of commits, and left |
| 21:52.43 | Funkeh` | o..k |
| 21:52.49 | Tekkub | yea, he got a channel ban, so he removed his addons from the svn |
| 21:52.50 | Zariel | got band, went emo, deleted his stuff from the svn |
| 21:53.14 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: moving things as suggested would be a good start, take ace back to a methodology and not a release site |
| 21:53.42 | Dashkal | Shoot WAU? |
| 21:53.49 | Tekkub | I totally agree... get people away from the ace svn :) |
| 21:53.51 | nevcairiel | definately |
| 21:53.55 | durcyn | WAU was a godamn abomination from the get-go |
| 21:53.56 | Zariel | imo, zips shouldnt be generated from the trunk, you should be able to press a button and generate a zip with changelog and post it to a releaes site |
| 21:53.57 | Tekkub | WAU isn't even supported anymore! |
| 21:54.15 | Cairenn | Zariel: wowi's svn does exactly that |
| 21:54.21 | Tekkub | Zariel, that's the whole intent of WoWI's SVN and Curseforge |
| 21:54.22 | Zariel | yes its very interesting :) |
| 21:54.26 | Zariel | if only it did Git :) |
| 21:54.29 | Dashkal | Tekkub: it is. One of the curse people took over |
| 21:54.46 | Cairenn | Zariel: we're hoping to get git in next |
| 21:54.50 | Tekkub | Zariel, WoWI's been open to git stuff with me... but noone else seems to use git |
| 21:54.59 | durcyn | Dashkal: eh? kaelten's been with curse for quite a while |
| 21:55.01 | Tekkub | so I've just used github and a upload script |
| 21:55.08 | Dashkal | Cairenn: git? really? So I'd be able to cross-push? |
| 21:55.13 | Tekkub | if there's demand I bet they'd work with me on providing git hosting |
| 21:55.33 | Dashkal | durcyn: Not kaelten. Kaelten is on CF if I remember correctly. Kolie[sp?] is doing the curse client and WAU |
| 21:55.36 | Tekkub | ooooooowwwwwwwww............ |
| 21:55.46 | Tekkub | I think I'm gonna pass out from blood loss |
| 21:55.52 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.58 | Cairenn | Tekkub: it is something we want to do, you know where to go to talk to dolby |
| 21:56.02 | Cheads | Tekkub performancefu show memory usage for Auc-Stat-Simple(3.1mb) and Auc-Stat-StdDev(2.6mb) and Auc-ScanData (4.5mb). If I only disable StealYourCarbon and reload, the combined memory usage is lowered by those 10-11mb(tried twice now, same result) |
| 21:56.11 | Tekkub | Cairenn, I've talked with dolby a bit already |
| 21:56.18 | Cairenn | I know :) |
| 21:56.38 | Tekkub | my current thought is to just have people use github and put a post-updated hook catcher on WoWI |
| 21:56.43 | [Ammo] | for what its worth, the ace methodology still means something to some of us |
| 21:56.45 | Dashkal | Still, one click updating off of the wowace svn's trunk has GOT to go. |
| 21:56.54 | Tekkub | people push a tag, github calls WoWI, WoWI creates a package |
| 21:56.55 | Cairenn | [Ammo]: yup, I know it does |
| 21:57.05 | Zariel | Tekkub: That would be greate |
| 21:57.07 | Zariel | great* |
| 21:57.18 | Cairenn | just wish it would go back to that overall |
| 21:57.19 | Tekkub | Dashkal, basically the idea is, abandon the ace svn and move to per-project repos |
| 21:57.23 | [Ammo] | and I've been begging for the death of WAU for a while |
| 21:57.32 | Tekkub | instead of providing that on wowace.com, kael pushed it to curse |
| 21:57.33 | [Ammo] | WAU is and will always be an abomination |
| 21:57.37 | Tekkub | cald pushed to wowi |
| 21:57.39 | Dashkal | Tekkub: *nods* That's a good part of the reason why I moved from wowace to curseforge |
| 21:57.45 | Dashkal | That and tickets |
| 21:57.47 | Tekkub | the ace svn is just kinda... there... |
| 21:57.49 | Dashkal | tickets are very very yummy |
| 21:57.53 | Tekkub | for the people who won't leave |
| 21:58.00 | *** part/#wowace Sharne-FR (n=glenn_st@91.177.66.52) |
| 21:58.13 | [Ammo] | well I'm comfy here, but i release my stuff on Wowi |
| 21:58.36 | Tekkub | I still like GCode's tix better than any other system I've used (including the one I'm writing for real monies) |
| 21:58.36 | Cairenn | and of course we have the lovely upload code that Shadowed did |
| 21:58.43 | Dashkal | Agreed. I'll be staying put. Learned most of what I know about coding right here. Not going anyway |
| 21:58.45 | Dashkal | anywhere* |
| 21:58.46 | Cheads | Tekkub I'll just report it on your google code =) |
| 21:58.53 | Dashkal | coding wow addons, anyway |
| 21:58.54 | *** join/#wowace DARKGuy (n=DARKGuy@200.84.245.195) |
| 21:58.56 | Tekkub | I have a simple ruby WoWI uploader as well |
| 21:59.04 | Tekkub | if anyone was ever interested |
| 21:59.21 | nevcairiel | didnt shadowed write a real app too? |
| 21:59.24 | Shadowed | wha? |
| 21:59.28 | Tekkub | Cheads, that's the ONLY way to get things fixed with me |
| 21:59.31 | Shadowed | thats what Cairenn's talking about I assume |
| 21:59.44 | Cairenn | yup: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7633-WoWIModUploader.html |
| 22:00.00 | Cheads | =) |
| 22:00.10 | Hofer | Any thoughts on my issues above? |
| 22:00.51 | Tekkub | so then, who's next for me to piss off and get em to move to project repos? |
| 22:01.04 | [Ammo] | try me bitch |
| 22:01.06 | Tekkub | can we get some stats on who uses the ace svn the most? |
| 22:01.10 | Zariel | i vote [Ammo] |
| 22:01.11 | [Ammo] | I do :) |
| 22:01.11 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (n=KriLL3@unaffiliated/krill3) |
| 22:01.19 | [Ammo] | I'm right up there at the top |
| 22:01.29 | [Ammo] | bring it :) |
| 22:01.32 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 22:01.48 | Tekkub | okey ammo, go buy yourself a big buttplug, put it in with no lube, and come back here in 2 hours |
| 22:01.58 | Tekkub | I'll save my next git-push for you |
| 22:02.02 | [Ammo] | aw man, shops closed |
| 22:02.08 | [Ammo] | lend me yours? |
| 22:02.13 | Zariel | lies i know you own one |
| 22:02.16 | Ellipsis | aww, I was about to offer mine |
| 22:02.27 | Tekkub | well then you're just going to have to find something big and uncomfortable around the house to put in your ass |
| 22:02.32 | VonhintenHOME` | I think you're just creating a lot of work for no good reason |
| 22:02.39 | [Ammo] | grolsch bottle with cap count? |
| 22:02.41 | Shadowed | what are you guys arguing now |
| 22:02.44 | VonhintenHOME` | Just to be different |
| 22:03.12 | Shadowed | eh? VonhintenHOME` what about what |
| 22:03.15 | Shadowed | err, about what |
| 22:03.21 | VonhintenHOME` | Tekkub |
| 22:03.21 | Tekkub | what what what? |
| 22:03.24 | nevcairiel | yay we confused Shadowed |
| 22:03.36 | Shadowed | I've been watching TV, I just came back to see people arguing about ace svn |
| 22:04.01 | Tekkub | we know the rules don't apply to me, so what's your point? |
| 22:04.32 | [Ammo] | what rules? |
| 22:04.38 | Ellipsis | rules are for noobs |
| 22:04.43 | Shadowed | wowace has rules? |
| 22:04.51 | Tekkub | the ones I wrote so that I could apply them to everyone else |
| 22:04.57 | Shadowed | you only get in trouble if you really cause drama |
| 22:05.11 | Tekkub | I caused drama, and everyone's happy |
| 22:05.13 | VonhintenHOME` | Let's just mess up wowace so a few hundred thousand people are fucked for a while (if not more) until they can find the time to magically get stuff where YOU want them too... with absolutely no help from you, mind you |
| 22:05.22 | Shadowed | ooooooooo |
| 22:05.30 | Shadowed | you're one of those people VonhintenHOME` |
| 22:05.50 | Tekkub | ah I don't think VonhintenHOME` quite gets what we're talking about |
| 22:05.51 | nevcairiel | not like addons will break because wowace is offline |
| 22:05.57 | Tekkub | WAU will |
| 22:05.59 | erikh | even then |
| 22:06.02 | [Ammo] | but but the holy WAU |
| 22:06.04 | Shadowed | yes they will nev |
| 22:06.06 | nevcairiel | you will just not get your daily alpha builds |
| 22:06.07 | [Ammo] | fuck WAU, it's an abomination |
| 22:06.08 | Shadowed | if it's not on wowace, it doesn't exist |
| 22:06.14 | Tekkub | well, WAU won't, it just won't get anything new |
| 22:06.22 | Shadowed | it's like religion |
| 22:06.24 | nevcairiel | you know what WAU costs on traffic? |
| 22:06.28 | VonhintenHOME` | Is JWU an abomination too? |
| 22:06.28 | Shadowed | everyone says you're wrong, but you just ignore them |
| 22:06.28 | Tekkub | and people would be forced to download an updater that's not dead... |
| 22:06.29 | nevcairiel | I doubt curse is going to pay that for ever |
| 22:06.33 | Shadowed | It's the same thing VonhintenHOME` |
| 22:06.42 | erikh | a cron job that runs every minute to sync repositories from the new to the old isn't hard |
| 22:06.46 | erikh | mirroring is a solved problem |
| 22:06.51 | Tekkub | doe JWU only pull from ace? |
| 22:07.28 | Tekkub | nevcairiel, curse wants people to use their repos so they get the addons there... |
| 22:07.43 | VonhintenHOME` | If you think JWU is an abomination, than I can only assume that you have no idea what "client support" means... you've probably never worked in a software job where the goal is least client impact... you're still living in this academic world of "do what's right all the time" |
| 22:07.49 | Tekkub | I wouldn't be too surpised if Kael locked down the ace SVN when curseforge goes gold |
| 22:07.50 | Yssaril | Tekkub: jwu can also pull form wowint/curse and wowui |
| 22:08.25 | Shadowed | VonhintenHOME`, This argument has been given hundreds of times. Ultimately, you don't need desktop programs to update mods unless you're incredibly lazy or you want "the very very best" in which case you're better off with something like SVN. |
| 22:08.29 | erikh | VonhintenHOME`: actually, I live and breathe in that world and I wouldn't think of risking every user to the whims of one malicious contributor |
| 22:08.39 | Tekkub | so if we lock the svn, force devs to WoWIsvn/CF and JWU can pull from those.. .where's the fucking of people happening? |
| 22:08.47 | Tekkub | I'm missing the connection here |
| 22:09.15 | nevcairiel | WAU costs alot of money, just to not-piss-off users, we should continue it for all eternity? :P |
| 22:09.29 | erikh | hmm |
| 22:09.35 | Dashkal | Shadowed: I disagree on that point. I run a very heavily modified UI. Upgrading the entire set each patch would literally take hours by hand. JWU does it for me in about a minute |
| 22:09.46 | VonhintenHOME` | Dashkal, exactly |
| 22:10.05 | nevcairiel | would you pay for that luxury? |
| 22:10.11 | erikh | nevcairiel: what if WAU just got a list of repos from the wowace site and then allowed mod authors to register repos with it? |
| 22:10.17 | Dashkal | No, but I would deal with advertisements |
| 22:10.20 | erikh | b/w cost would essentially be offloaded to the authors |
| 22:10.24 | Shadowed | Dashkal, first off not every patch breaks addons. And second, you're the minority |
| 22:10.36 | erikh | and no loss of essential functionality |
| 22:10.39 | VonhintenHOME` | Auto-updaters made patch day's so much easier for people... when most people are broken for days, those that use auto-updaters aren't broken as long |
| 22:10.40 | Tekkub | the "upgrade on patch day" mentality is the worst part about updaters |
| 22:10.42 | Shadowed | Theres a lot more people who update their addons every single day, off beta |
| 22:10.44 | Dashkal | Shadowed: Minority, fine. But if you take that to mean invalid, then I take exception |
| 22:11.02 | Tekkub | they perpetuate this wonderful myth that everything breaks and must be fixed on patchday |
| 22:11.14 | Dashkal | I'm not for a moment defending this pulling off of wowace trunk. But I do depend on the ability to bulk update |
| 22:11.25 | erikh | and it sounds like there are a lot of services that will host repositories for wow devs, so authors not having a server to host on wouldn't be an issue |
| 22:11.26 | Shadowed | well no |
| 22:11.28 | VonhintenHOME` | it's no myth, most patches break something.. sometimes they break a LOT |
| 22:11.30 | Shadowed | you don't need an updater |
| 22:11.37 | Dashkal | 2.4? |
| 22:11.39 | erikh | hell, I *like* having an updater |
| 22:11.42 | Tekkub | SOMETHING yes, not EVERYTHING |
| 22:11.42 | Dashkal | 2.4 nuked a good chunk of my UI |
| 22:11.43 | Shadowed | VonhintenHOME`, I'm just curious. Do you do mod development at all? |
| 22:11.53 | erikh | the bandwidth use is the issue, not the functionality |
| 22:11.56 | Tekkub | 2.4 killed one thing for me, MSBT |
| 22:11.59 | erikh | at least... as far as I'm seeing it. |
| 22:12.02 | Tekkub | so I updated ONE THING |
| 22:12.14 | VonhintenHOME` | In my spare time I tinker around, I'm a software engineer by profession. |
| 22:12.37 | Cheads | I still miss Assessment |
| 22:12.46 | Cheads | parrot.. aloft |
| 22:12.57 | Tekkub | but then I've been fighting the "I MUST UPDATE MAH ADDONZ" shit since before ace packaged addons so... yea |
| 22:12.57 | nevcairiel | erikh: the svn itself is not the issue, the issue are the generated .zip files, and we cannot offload those to other people because of trojans/keyloggers |
| 22:12.58 | Dashkal | I'd be quite content to have an updater that updated only "released" addons. Unfortunately WAU made a number of people lazy. Why push to an actual release site when WAU makes it so all you have to do is svn ci? |
| 22:13.03 | Cheads | omen? |
| 22:13.14 | Tekkub | it's just engrained that "need the latest" mentality even deeper |
| 22:13.34 | [Ammo] | need the latest only applies to certain addons |
| 22:13.41 | erikh | nevcairiel: do you think package signing would solve that? |
| 22:13.44 | Shadowed | Omen breaking during raids because everyone updated off WAU as soon as they could was incredibly amusing |
| 22:13.47 | Dashkal | The only addon I want bleeding edge is threat. that's it |
| 22:13.58 | Shadowed | You really don't even need bleeding edge for Omen |
| 22:13.59 | [Ammo] | threat updates, boss mod updates etc |
| 22:14.02 | Tekkub | bossmods and threat, really |
| 22:14.03 | [Ammo] | and only for a limited time |
| 22:14.14 | erikh | e.g., package is submitted to wowace, it's signed by the wowace key, WAU defaults to only installing wowace-signed packages |
| 22:14.17 | Shadowed | Bossmods don't need bleeding edge unless you're one of those guilds who are the top 5 killing bosses |
| 22:14.20 | erikh | a lot of linux packaging systems work this way |
| 22:14.24 | Tekkub | and Dashkal there are updaters that pull from wowi/curse |
| 22:14.27 | Tekkub | use those |
| 22:14.29 | Dashkal | And to deal with the out of sync bit we have an "update before each raid" rule. And we give hell to anybody who chirps back an old rev |
| 22:14.34 | VonhintenHOME` | People accept the balance of "wanting the latest" to "oh shit, the latest broke something" for easy of the process |
| 22:14.35 | Dashkal | Tekkub: JWU is one of them |
| 22:14.35 | kaiden | uhm, some people enjoy beta testing stuff forever, it's enjoyable to me to have the latest no matter what, even if there are bugs, it's getting the enjoyment out of the new features that slip in here and there |
| 22:14.36 | Cairenn | people (other than devs/testers) shouldn't be using svn as their download anyway - there's a reason it's called alpha/beta - they should be getting final release versions from [x location that the author pushes to] |
| 22:14.39 | Tekkub | EXACTLY |
| 22:15.01 | Dashkal | Cairenn: That only works if authors actually release |
| 22:15.04 | Cheads | alot of developers won't even bother to release their nice addons other places than wowace |
| 22:15.10 | Cheads | "alot" =) |
| 22:15.16 | nevcairiel | WAUs design was totally wrong, i've been trying to fight that for ever, but the WAU dev was just deaf :P |
| 22:15.17 | Tekkub | VonhintenHOME`, if you stick to releases, and authors only relase FIXES on patch days, the problem is solved |
| 22:15.34 | erikh | dunno, i'd be elated to work on a distributed packaging system that saved wowace bandwidth and ensured user safety |
| 22:15.50 | Shadowed | Dashkal: When you let authors be lazy, then they'll never learn to release |
| 22:15.53 | Tekkub | but authors get in this "I must release every change I make as soon as I make it" mode, and users think they then NEED every single releases |
| 22:16.00 | Dashkal | Shadowed: Absolutely agreed |
| 22:16.15 | Shadowed | it's not too complicated to do |
| 22:16.15 | Tekkub | be it ace's packages or other people (GFW) that update TOC numbers and release them on patch day |
| 22:16.17 | erikh | so, well, lmk if I can help with more than suggestions |
| 22:16.30 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|AFK (i=skullsho@2002:44cd:fd30:0:0:0:44cd:fd30) |
| 22:16.34 | Cairenn | at one point, back when ace meant something (more/different), authors pushed to the live sites - various things along the way changed that outlook |
| 22:16.37 | Dashkal | WAU fucked things up on both sides. It gave authors a way to easy way to release, and it gave users way too early access to code. |
| 22:16.47 | VonhintenHOME` | Tekkeb, unfortunately, the process for getting that idea into JWU requires a manual step of determining what the ID of that addon is on the respective Release site, and plugging it into the interface |
| 22:16.52 | Tekkub | various things? it's all svn's fault |
| 22:17.14 | [Ammo] | it's the popularity of the thing |
| 22:17.16 | [Ammo] | ace killed ace |
| 22:17.22 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: Post tickets to curse.com and to wowinterface to provide lookup APIs for urls and that can be fixed |
| 22:17.23 | Cairenn | Tekkub: there are other contributing factors, imo |
| 22:17.28 | Tekkub | VonhintenHOME`, well there are these neat likke toc fields where devs could list their release sites |
| 22:17.30 | nevcairiel | the svn is fine, automated files and WAU are evil |
| 22:17.37 | Tekkub | and the updater could use that info |
| 22:17.40 | Cairenn | fanboism, wau |
| 22:17.45 | Dashkal | Cairenn: would such a thing be possible for wowi? |
| 22:17.49 | Cheads | the WowAceUpdater is very good though =) |
| 22:17.50 | Tekkub | it'd be a wonderful solution t othe whole issue |
| 22:17.57 | Dashkal | erm, could, not would |
| 22:18.02 | Cheads | I mean the client itself |
| 22:18.09 | Tekkub | wau caused the fanboism for the most part |
| 22:18.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Dashkal, that's an interesting idea... But I'm not sure a site devoted to ads would allow such a thing... they want you to go to their download page and see the ad |
| 22:18.37 | nevcairiel | All major addon sites should agree on a .xml format for addon version information |
| 22:18.39 | VonhintenHOME` | Which is why programs like JWU have to know the ID, and pull the HTML to scrub it |
| 22:18.43 | nevcairiel | and we list those .xml links in the .toc |
| 22:18.43 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: people _will_ write updaters weather they like it or not |
| 22:18.51 | nevcairiel | problem solved ;) |
| 22:18.54 | Dashkal | The convience is too much to walk away from |
| 22:19.08 | Tekkub | nevcairiel, don't even need a common XML, just a published API |
| 22:19.18 | erikh | REST :) |
| 22:19.19 | Tekkub | RESTful... |
| 22:19.26 | erikh | Tekkub: GMTA |
| 22:19.27 | Tekkub | damnit |
| 22:19.27 | Dashkal | And an updater with an agent string of internet explorer will look pretty much the same :"p |
| 22:19.29 | nevcairiel | if API or XMl .. all the same |
| 22:19.31 | Vulcanus | noes dunt taeks my WAU awai |
| 22:19.36 | VonhintenHOME` | Dashkal, of course, but they would argue that the alternative is to download and install THEIR closed-source updater, with ads built in |
| 22:19.42 | Dashkal | Hell a URI that throws a 302 would be enough |
| 22:19.48 | Kazie | Step aside girls... noob question incoming!.. SVN is not the same as files.wowace.com, right? |
| 22:20.14 | Dashkal | Kazie: (slightly simplified) any commit made to the wowace svn under trunk will end up under files.wowace.com |
| 22:20.19 | Tekkub | VonhintenHOME`, well everyone has an updater these days.... bost way to sell yours is to somehow calm those in fear of keyloggers |
| 22:20.19 | erikh | Kazie: SVN is a revision control system.. they could be related but I'm not sure |
| 22:20.21 | nevcairiel | the files on files.wowace.com are build from the SVN |
| 22:20.23 | Tekkub | good luck... |
| 22:20.58 | erikh | anyways, I'd be happy to attempt to help solve this problem in a manner that benefits everyone |
| 22:21.01 | Tekkub | I wonder if kael would be horrible opposed to just turning of ace's packager |
| 22:21.13 | Tekkub | that'd get people to move to the sites either way |
| 22:21.13 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm more worried about getting a keylogger through an ad on one of the addon sites than I am of a JWU and a .zip file |
| 22:21.36 | Tekkub | I'm not talking zips |
| 22:21.45 | Tekkub | I'm talking the actualy updater executable |
| 22:21.49 | Dashkal | Meh. Keylogger paranoia. I still have to tell people that mods without .exe files cannot hack them |
| 22:21.52 | Tekkub | they HAVE been targetted before |
| 22:22.06 | Kazie | Dashkal :D |
| 22:22.07 | Cheads | I still haven't seen an addon-downloader that comes close to WAU's user friendlyness |
| 22:22.11 | nevcairiel | Tekkub: give it some more time until CurseForge is really stable, wonder how long his curse bosses take to poke him into reducing wowace traffic ;) |
| 22:22.13 | erikh | Dashkal: the amusing thing is, the curse packager tool will blindly run .exe files |
| 22:22.16 | VonhintenHOME` | not just exe's, bat files too. |
| 22:22.22 | Dashkal | *shudder* |
| 22:22.24 | VonhintenHOME` | There are some people that ship .bat files, and they shouldn't imo |
| 22:22.25 | Dashkal | more reason not to use it |
| 22:22.31 | Tekkub | nevcairiel, aye, I don't think he'll do anything until CF is usable |
| 22:22.36 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: wowi's is already completely stable |
| 22:22.37 | erikh | yep, I discovered that and went to WAU |
| 22:22.39 | Dashkal | One of my officers got hacked and tried to blame auctioneer I think it was. |
| 22:22.41 | Dashkal | We had words |
| 22:22.41 | Tekkub | but when it is, I expect him to do *something* |
| 22:22.50 | Shadowed | points at [Ammo] for including bats |
| 22:22.55 | Tekkub | Cairenn, WoWI doesn't control ace tho :) |
| 22:22.56 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: i know, but that doesnt really help that argument ;) |
| 22:23.06 | erikh | remembers privately packaging CTRA for his guild because of dumbasses using google to find it |
| 22:23.07 | Tekkub | (anymore) |
| 22:23.34 | Hofer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.37 | Tekkub | remembers writing a bossmod addon while in ZG because CTRABM fucked pu hakkar's timers |
| 22:23.44 | Tekkub | whatever was that called... |
| 22:23.44 | erikh | heh |
| 22:24.01 | nevcairiel | Hofer: maybe another file that is blamed for the error? |
| 22:24.05 | Shadowed | first time I tried to write a bossmod, it spammed chat until I DCed |
| 22:24.07 | Shadowed | that was pretty awesome |
| 22:24.11 | Dashkal | Hofer: sure it's pointing to the file you think it's pointing to/ |
| 22:24.13 | Dashkal | ? |
| 22:24.22 | Dashkal | is too slow |
| 22:24.26 | Zyndrome | I think I have a blister on my tounge or something |
| 22:24.32 | Zyndrome | looks at his habanero-snacks |
| 22:24.40 | Hofer | Error occured in: Global |
| 22:24.40 | Hofer | Count: 1 |
| 22:24.40 | Hofer | Message: ..\FrameXML\UIOptionsFrame.lua line 180: |
| 22:24.40 | Hofer | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.47 | Tekkub | oh all I did whan I raided was write addons, and fight with the raid leader about why I "needed" to write them when "something already did that" (CTRA) |
| 22:24.56 | Hofer | UIOptionFrame.lua isn't anyting I've been working on |
| 22:25.03 | Tekkub | the hakkar fuckup and my saving the raid from repeat wipes shut his ass up |
| 22:25.15 | nevcairiel | Hofer: Hm, it seems like your your self.optionsFrame is empty |
| 22:25.24 | nevcairiel | Hofer: you should check if you register that properly |
| 22:25.55 | Hofer | What is ment by empty in the ( ) areas? |
| 22:26.40 | nevcairiel | empty means nil :P |
| 22:27.10 | Hofer | right but: InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame(self.optionsFrame) doesn't it mean if I have something in the () that it is not nil? |
| 22:27.31 | nevcairiel | not if that variable you have in there is nil itself |
| 22:27.39 | Hofer | ahh hrmm |
| 22:28.14 | nevcairiel | pastey it on http://ace.pastey.net if you want, and we can have a quick look |
| 22:29.47 | Hofer | neat: http://ace.pastey.net/90633 |
| 22:30.11 | nevcairiel | ah-ha! |
| 22:30.14 | nevcairiel | ok |
| 22:30.21 | nevcairiel | in your OnInitialize |
| 22:30.23 | nevcairiel | you do |
| 22:30.29 | nevcairiel | optionsFrame = LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):AddToBlizOptions("WelcomeHome", "WelcomeHome") |
| 22:30.33 | nevcairiel | all is good there |
| 22:30.34 | nevcairiel | except |
| 22:30.40 | nevcairiel | optionsFrame is a local variable |
| 22:31.01 | nevcairiel | but when you try to open the frame you try to access "self.optionsFrame" |
| 22:31.15 | nevcairiel | which is a field in the addon table |
| 22:31.27 | nevcairiel | checks the tutorial code |
| 22:31.30 | nevcairiel | anyway |
| 22:31.40 | VonhintenHOME` | lol BlizOptions? |
| 22:31.42 | nevcairiel | change InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame(self.optionsFrame) to only (optionsFrame) |
| 22:31.43 | Tekkub | my cat's an asshole |
| 22:31.44 | Tekkub | http://picasaweb.google.com/Tekkub/Misc/photo?authkey=TFDdD9rSDPQ#5219290059569333314 |
| 22:31.50 | Tekkub | CAIR! KITTIES |
| 22:32.10 | Tekkub | they're BOTH in that picture |
| 22:32.22 | erikh | hah, I give |
| 22:32.23 | Hofer | Ahh... praps the tutorial forgot to mention this? or did I over look it /checking |
| 22:32.27 | erikh | where's the other one? |
| 22:33.12 | Hofer | yea, think tutorial didn't mention to change that |
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| 22:33.25 | Hofer | Is BlizOptions wrong VonHome? |
| 22:33.26 | Ellipsis | kittehs? o.o |
| 22:33.28 | Tekkub | bottom shelf of the entertainment stand |
| 22:33.49 | Cairenn | Tekkub: awww, kittehz! |
| 22:33.49 | Tekkub | he's taken to sleeping there, I assume the glass is colder than the carpet |
| 22:33.58 | Dashkal | Aha, there it is |
| 22:34.09 | VonhintenHOME` | Hofer, I was just laughing at the name of that API... |
| 22:34.34 | nevcairiel | Hofer: i fixed the tutorial, in the first section it was fine, in the AceDB section it was wrong :) |
| 22:34.36 | Tekkub | http://picasaweb.google.com/Tekkub/Misc/photo?authkey=TFDdD9rSDPQ#5219290901170814402 |
| 22:34.37 | Hofer | Ahh, was it made by Ace or bliz? |
| 22:34.39 | Tekkub | dead kitties |
| 22:34.58 | Hofer | Excellent, testing. |
| 22:35.29 | erikh | Tekkub: ah, my gamma fails me again |
| 22:35.43 | Tekkub | yea I know they're shitty pics |
| 22:36.28 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 22:36.34 | nevcairiel | anyone good at speaking gibberish? |
| 22:36.35 | nevcairiel | Greetings for the Russian version of game do not work yours mode Bartender4 .you could not correct and make it a localisation file. |
| 22:36.35 | nevcairiel | Transfer mode is, but in an original file |
| 22:36.39 | nevcairiel | wth does he say? |
| 22:36.54 | thul | weee |
| 22:36.58 | thul | I'm happy |
| 22:37.02 | Tekkub | please provide a locale file |
| 22:37.11 | Tekkub | and transfer your mode to my pants |
| 22:37.14 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: bartender4 isn't working correctly in the russion version, can you localize it |
| 22:37.15 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 22:37.18 | Tekkub | in an original file |
| 22:37.19 | Hofer | damn, it didn't save my options... |
| 22:37.32 | Hofer | the error is gone now though |
| 22:37.41 | nevcairiel | Cairenn: butbut nothing in Bartender4 requires locale to work, only options are localized :D |
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| 22:37.56 | Cairenn | shrugs, that's what I read it as saying |
| 22:38.06 | Tekkub | nevcairiel, tell him to send a big cute russian bear to Tekkub and you'll localize for him |
| 22:38.11 | Ellipsis | maybe "mode" == "options"? |
| 22:38.14 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:38.21 | nevcairiel | i thought mode = mod |
| 22:38.33 | Tekkub | mode == model |
| 22:38.36 | Ellipsis | I assumed that at first, but I'm trying to figure out what he wants localized in that case |
| 22:39.02 | Cairenn | mode = version, imo |
| 22:39.10 | VonhintenHOME` | transfer = translate ? |
| 22:39.16 | Cairenn | what he needs localized I have no idea |
| 22:39.40 | Tekkub | either way, the solution is to send me a russian bear |
| 22:39.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:40.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Cairenn, please.. this is russian. If anything, mode = wersion |
| 22:40.01 | Stanzilla | maybe he wants a template file to localize it for you? :P |
| 22:40.03 | Cairenn | I think hubby'd be rather upset about that Tekkub |
| 22:40.06 | Stanzilla | "original file" |
| 22:40.16 | Cairenn | VonhintenHOME`: lol |
| 22:40.18 | RaydenUni | i'm making a shaman |
| 22:40.21 | Tekkub | why do you think that cair? |
| 22:40.21 | RaydenUni | troll or orc... |
| 22:40.24 | RaydenUni | i need a name |
| 22:40.32 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77802 10Bartender4/locale/ (Babelfish.lua locale.xml ruRU.lua): Bartender4: add empty ruRU locale file and add ruRU to the babelfish script |
| 22:40.33 | nevcairiel | now they can go nuts |
| 22:40.42 | Cairenn | Tekkub: well, if you were willing to share, it might be okay ;) |
| 22:40.50 | Tekkub | open relationship |
| 22:42.37 | Guest87359 | Ellipsis: halp |
| 22:43.12 | Hofer | With that tutorial for WelcomeHome, if the saved variable part works correctly, should I be able to open the SavedVariables.lua and see my options there? |
| 22:43.42 | nevcairiel | Hofer: not exactly, every addon gets its own file |
| 22:43.46 | CIA-44 | 03nevcairiel * r77803 10Bartender4/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Bartender4: simplify 3 translations to be combined in one |
| 22:44.09 | nevcairiel | Hofer: look for WTF\Account\<name>\SavedVariables\YourAddon.lua |
| 22:44.45 | Hofer | Appears to not have created a WelcomeHome.lua |
| 22:45.40 | selckin | log out |
| 22:46.36 | Ellipsis | Guest87359: give me a minute, rather busy atm |
| 22:47.30 | Hofer | logging out didn't make one; was that your thought? |
| 22:48.14 | RaydenUni | so in making a shaman, what racials should i be aware of? |
| 22:48.28 | erikh | war stomp |
| 22:48.30 | erikh | nothing else matters |
| 22:50.00 | erikh | well, if you plan to gear up quickly using pvp that is |
| 22:50.04 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 22:50.11 | RaydenUni | i just leveled a druid to 70 |
| 22:50.12 | durcyn | orc for pve, tauren for pvp |
| 22:50.17 | RaydenUni | why orc? |
| 22:50.29 | erikh | weapon bonus |
| 22:50.42 | durcyn | and the free trinket |
| 22:51.12 | RaydenUni | blood fury looks nifty |
| 22:51.15 | RaydenUni | free trinket? |
| 22:51.30 | durcyn | blood fury scales with level |
| 22:51.51 | RaydenUni | what about vs berserking? |
| 22:52.06 | RaydenUni | berserking looks like something i'd use on a shaman as opposed to on my priest where i never used it |
| 22:52.27 | durcyn | bloodlust makes it a bit redundant |
| 22:52.49 | RaydenUni | i've never made an orc |
| 22:52.51 | RaydenUni | i'll do that i guess |
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| 22:53.11 | RaydenUni | now i just need an awesome name |
| 22:53.38 | Hofer | Dumbleorc |
| 22:53.41 | erikh | eh, we have a running joke in our guild that all hunter names are just two words jammed together |
| 22:53.51 | RaydenUni | rofl |
| 22:53.58 | RaydenUni | i was just discussing hary potter in another channel |
| 22:54.02 | RaydenUni | my druid is petahoof |
| 22:54.04 | Hofer | hah |
| 22:54.11 | RaydenUni | my guild has a running joke about shamaninjas |
| 22:54.22 | erikh | the sad thing is statistically, the joke works |
| 22:54.25 | RaydenUni | holy shit |
| 22:54.42 | RaydenUni | i clicked create character and THE UGLIEST female human warrior popped up |
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| 22:55.08 | RaydenUni | i thought ugly like this was reserved for gnomes |
| 22:55.12 | Stanzilla | grannyface? |
| 22:55.17 | erikh | type in "butterface" and click go |
| 22:55.24 | Hofer | hah |
| 22:55.51 | selckin | dkdkdkhunterdk |
| 22:56.50 | Guest87359 | If create a panel in KgPanels, and I want to parent to it, shouldn't I just be able to put in the name of the panel that I created? |
| 23:02.06 | CIA-44 | 03sayclub 07Ace3 * r77804 10Grid/Grid2/ (locales/koKR.lua locales.xml): |
| 23:02.06 | CIA-44 | Grid2: |
| 23:02.06 | CIA-44 | - Added koKR localization |
| 23:03.01 | Yssaril | anyone have the globalstrings.lua for all other locals besides US?? |
| 23:03.21 | Hofer | What art of the Ace3 tutorial makes a savedvariables.lua in the savedvariables dir |
| 23:03.40 | nevcairiel | Yssaril: the svn has the asians |
| 23:03.59 | Ellipsis | Guest87359: I'm guessing it uses some sort of naming scheme like KgPanel12 or whatever, you could check the name by making it intercept clicks and then using a GetMouseOver macro |
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| 23:04.35 | RaydenUni | fricken |
| 23:04.46 | RaydenUni | my computer locked up so i restarted and now it doesn't see my keyboard |
| 23:05.01 | nevcairiel | Hofer: well you need 2 things really. For one, your .toc needs a SavedVariables field |
| 23:05.04 | Yssaril | thanks nevcairiel |
| 23:05.20 | selckin | RaydenUni: press f1 to continue |
| 23:05.47 | RaydenUni | "Keyboard error or no keyboard present." |
| 23:05.47 | RaydenUni | "Press F1 to continue, DEL to enter SETUP" |
| 23:05.59 | nevcairiel | Hofer: then you need to reference that same variable name you used in the .toc in your AceDB call |
| 23:06.50 | CIA-44 | 03sayclub 07Ace3 * r77805 10Grid/Grid2Options/ (locales/koKR.lua locales.xml): |
| 23:06.50 | CIA-44 | Grid2Options : |
| 23:06.50 | CIA-44 | - Added koKR localization |
| 23:06.51 | Yssaril | lol v1.12 german globalstrings.lua QUEST_FACTION_NEEDED = "%1$s: %2$s / %3$s" isnt that a bit redundant? |
| 23:06.59 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 23:07.00 | Hofer | ahh, my toc has no such line |
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| 23:07.38 | Ellipsis | Yssaril: er...isn't that the same as the enUS string? |
| 23:07.43 | Hofer | forgot to add the: SavedVariables: WelcomeHomeDB thanks |
| 23:08.20 | Yssaril | Ellipsis: yea but the us one is just "%s: %s/%s" |
| 23:08.57 | nevcairiel | its used quite often |
| 23:09.01 | nevcairiel | with that redundant info |
| 23:09.15 | nevcairiel | you have to adjust your deformat strings (if thats what you do) |
| 23:09.17 | Yssaril | dosnt that slow down the formating? |
| 23:09.22 | nevcairiel | dont think so |
| 23:10.22 | Yssaril | at this point i am thinking why reinvent the wheel if i can jsut port deformat to libstub and call it a day /sigh |
| 23:10.59 | nevcairiel | because its damn easy to just create specific deformats for the strings you need? |
| 23:11.07 | nevcairiel | Deformat was mostly used for the combat log |
| 23:11.14 | nevcairiel | but thats no longer necessary :) |
| 23:11.33 | Yssaril | its easy but i dont want to bother with localizing it myself :P |
| 23:12.32 | Yssaril | or i could just have it error if its not localized yet :P |
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| 23:14.16 | Guest87359 | frame name for BT4 |
| 23:14.32 | nevcairiel | what frame? |
| 23:14.35 | Guest87359 | like bar 1 is BT4Bar1? |
| 23:14.40 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 23:14.50 | Hofer | Umm... so it appears to have saved my info, but I dont see a myaddon.lua in the savedvariables folder 0_o |
| 23:15.18 | nevcairiel | unpossible! |
| 23:15.30 | Hofer | indeed |
| 23:15.31 | Dashkal | In the correct saved vars folder? |
| 23:15.51 | Guest87359 | I just parented new KgPanel to BT4Bar1 and i'm begginging to hate this shit |
| 23:16.28 | nevcairiel | i restructured all my actionbars today |
| 23:16.40 | nevcairiel | went from 4 visible bars to 2 and a half |
| 23:16.41 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 23:16.56 | nevcairiel | more didnt fit in my artwork :P |
| 23:17.02 | Hofer | i'm in wtf/account/acountname/server/charname/SavedVariables and I see no WelcomeHome.lua yet I reloaded the game and it saved my change |
| 23:17.10 | nevcairiel | Wrong dir |
| 23:17.21 | nevcairiel | go to accountname/SavedVariables |
| 23:17.26 | nevcairiel | not in the server/char subdir |
| 23:17.49 | nevcairiel | Server/char gets data if you use SavedVariablesPerChar in your .toc |
| 23:18.30 | Hofer | ahh |
| 23:22.33 | Hofer | The string "WelcomeHomeDB" refer to the SavedVariables definition in the TOC file. If you don't specify anything for the third argument all characters using the addon will get their own profile. Here we specify "Default". This means that unless you change profile manually all character will share the same "Default" profile. Does that mean if I put the line as: self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("WelcomeHomeDB") that it will make each |
| 23:22.48 | Hofer | oh third argument |
| 23:22.56 | Hofer | self.db = LibStub("AceDB-3.0"):New("WelcomeHomeDB", defaults) ? |
| 23:23.47 | nevcairiel | Every char will have its own profile |
| 23:23.49 | nevcairiel | by default |
| 23:23.50 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 23:24.07 | nevcairiel | (But still stored in that one file, but managed by AceDB to be seperate) |
| 23:24.08 | Guest87359 | can i parent to the cast bar? |
| 23:24.14 | Hofer | ahh |
| 23:24.37 | Guest87359 | also, i'd really like it if aceconfig shit, had similar copy/paste for colors to be built in like rock config. |
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| 23:26.14 | Guest87359 | quartz cast bar has a frame name i'm sure, anyone know what it is? |
| 23:28.11 | durcyn | unlock it and /run DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) while hovering your cursor on it. et voila. |
| 23:28.49 | Hofer | So is Ace a group of people that got together and decided that they way they write variables and hooks is probably better than someone elses? (Confused on why addons like Ace exsist, i'm noob, no questioning just curious on the method/reasoning.) |
| 23:29.20 | durcyn | Hofer: no, it's an addon framework |
| 23:29.23 | durcyn | at its core |
| 23:29.42 | Hofer | bliz didn't provide a framework? |
| 23:30.06 | Hofer | guess not sure what a framework does |
| 23:30.20 | Ellipsis | bliz provided a very open-ended API, Ace is kind of a layer on top of that to help take care of the basics that most addons need anyway |
| 23:30.34 | Hofer | ahh |
| 23:30.36 | Ellipsis | so that authors can skip the boilerplate code and go straight to the fun stuff |
| 23:30.58 | CIA-44 | 03seppyk * r77806 10HeadCount/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:30.58 | CIA-44 | HeadCount: |
| 23:30.58 | CIA-44 | - Added configurable loot management popup window. |
| 23:31.01 | Hofer | So someone else could make a "Queen" addon and claim they are more efficent than you guys though? |
| 23:31.11 | Ellipsis | sure they could |
| 23:31.52 | Ellipsis | some people have written competing frameworks, generally with different approaches geared more towards efficiency, full-featuredness, etc. |
| 23:32.17 | Hofer | I c |
| 23:32.26 | Hofer | On a patch day if Ace breaks that would mean Ace addons break? |
| 23:32.31 | Guest87359 | can i only put buffs for filtering in EBBs that i've seen/had before? |
| 23:32.46 | Diao | ace won't break since it's usually being updated while test realms are up |
| 23:32.59 | durcyn | Guest87359: at present, yes. there's no free-form entry. |
| 23:33.01 | Hofer | ahh |
| 23:33.07 | VonhintenHOME` | There's a bold statement |
| 23:33.11 | Ellipsis | well technically yes, if some part of ace broke any addon relying on that particular feature would break....but that doesn't really happen, and it would be fixed very quickly if such an issue came up |
| 23:33.11 | Hofer | So why do you guys work on Ace? hobbyists? |
| 23:33.13 | VonhintenHOME` | Software breaks, it happens |
| 23:34.35 | nevcairiel | Hofer: yeah, its our hobby. I guess we all share some kind of crazyness that makes us spend alot of freetime on this :) |
| 23:34.46 | Hofer | gotcha |
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| 23:35.25 | Hofer | So bliz added that new Player Notes ablity... would that be usable in Addons in our own way? or would we have to code up our own Notes addon? |
| 23:35.41 | nevcairiel | I bet you can use those notes |
| 23:35.41 | Ellipsis | I'm sure there's some API to access it |
| 23:35.59 | nevcairiel | But only people on your friendlist can have notes |
| 23:35.59 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 23:36.01 | Hofer | I would just search wowwiki for the API on it? |
| 23:36.10 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 23:36.19 | VonhintenHOME` | Don't mess with people's notes |
| 23:36.20 | nevcairiel | wowwiki is generally not really up2date |
| 23:36.23 | VonhintenHOME` | People actually use those |
| 23:36.38 | Ellipsis | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetFriendNotes |
| 23:36.39 | nevcairiel | ~wowprogramming |
| 23:36.40 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 23:36.49 | Hofer | I'm not, i just want the functionality to have the option to leave notes |
| 23:36.51 | nevcairiel | Hofer: try that web page, has a nice API description too |
| 23:36.52 | Guest87359 | is there a way to keybind directly to macro's? |
| 23:37.07 | Guest87359 | or do you have to put the macro's on a bar, bind to the bar, and then hide the bar? |
| 23:37.15 | Ellipsis | Guest87359: you can do that with spellbinder and similar |
| 23:37.26 | zethe | GetFriendInfo return maybe? |
| 23:37.33 | Guest87359 | WAU? |
| 23:37.42 | Ellipsis | yes, spellbinder is on WAU /sigh |
| 23:37.51 | Maldivia | 7th return value from getFriendInfo = the note |
| 23:38.02 | Ellipsis | and yeah, they added it to GetFriendInfo's returns |
| 23:38.06 | Guest87359 | why sigh? i just wanted to know where to go get it. |
| 23:38.38 | Ellipsis | nothing...you must have missed the argument earlier :) |
| 23:38.45 | Dekster | I think BindPad does that as well. |
| 23:39.03 | Dekster | GUI to set keybindings for spell/item/macro. |
| 23:39.05 | nevcairiel | anyway, sleepy time for me, dont break the channel while i am gone :P |
| 23:39.14 | Hofer | thanks for help |
| 23:39.31 | Guest87359 | i did. been helping wife set up new UI |
| 23:39.36 | Guest87359 | i'm exteremly alt tab'ed atm |
| 23:39.51 | Ellipsis | waits for nevcairiel to turn away and immediately proceeds to break the channel |
| 23:44.41 | Dashkal | Guest87359: it was more or less another rant session about WAU. You've probably seen it before |
| 23:46.23 | Hofer | so if my addon is to generate statistical information over time, I would need to be saving a lot of variables in a characters savedvariable.lua or in the \Saved Variables\addonname.lua? |
| 23:47.12 | Ellipsis | that depends whether you want the data to be accessible to all characters on the account or just the one it was recorded on |
| 23:48.05 | Hofer | Ideally all characters would have their own statistics, but not all characters will need to see other character statistics |
| 23:48.15 | Hofer | if that makes sense |
| 23:48.16 | CIA-44 | 03washuu * r77807 10flagRSP2/ (flagRSP2.lua flagRSP2.toc flagRSP2.xml): flagRSP2: Fixed tooltips and description issues. |
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| 23:48.46 | Hofer | so I guess, just per character statistics, yes. |
| 23:49.58 | Ellipsis | then you should be able to store all that stuff in the per-character SVs |
| 23:50.14 | Hofer | Ok |
| 23:50.20 | Ellipsis | of course, if you have settings that you want to store globally, you might also need global SVs for that |
| 23:50.41 | Hofer | Aye |
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| 23:52.47 | Eritnull | Nevcairiel need help |
| 23:52.57 | Hofer | he went to sleep |
| 23:52.58 | Ellipsis | yes, yes he does |
| 23:53.46 | Eritnull | i translate to ruRU Bartender4..need updat..but i dont have acces to svn |
| 23:54.15 | Ellipsis | you can probably post the translation on the forum or email it to him or some such, and he will add it |
| 23:54.34 | Ellipsis | or if you plan to be doing a lot of translation, you may want to apply for a svn account |
| 23:54.38 | Eritnull | u know email? ) |
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| 23:55.47 | Ellipsis | hrm, well, it's not on his forum profile |
| 23:55.52 | Ellipsis | you may just want to post/PM it |
| 23:56.07 | Eritnull | i send request to avn accaun.. 2 day ago..but nothing.. |
| 23:56.15 | Eritnull | svn |
| 23:58.03 | *** join/#wowace Ominous (n=Ominous@81-178-77-124.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 23:58.20 | Eritnull | eh... now fast release rus wow... more more addons need update... incl all libs...eh.. bables libs its its...brb.. |
| 23:58.31 | Guest87359 | i have. |
| 23:58.51 | Eritnull | what have? |
