| 00:00.00 | Gnarfoz | also, yay for random idiots asking "do you want to tank some heroic?" (I was here at that time), then after a minute /spitting on me when I went auto-afk |
| 00:00.15 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:00.22 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903868370&sid=1 |
| 00:00.30 | Gnarfoz | (also, servers going down in 1 hour, how does he hope to fill up the group and finish the instance in time?!) |
| 00:00.31 | NivFreak | my ignore list is always full =( |
| 00:00.32 | Arrowmaster | anybody confirm or is this guy just an idiot? |
| 00:00.36 | *** join/#wowace Knaledge (n=Knaledge@195.64.101.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:00.48 | Knaledge | friends list is showing the player name twice |
| 00:00.58 | Knaledge | I'm assuming one of these is now generated by blizzard |
| 00:01.12 | Knaledge | is there a new variable that can be manipulated? |
| 00:01.29 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: sunday night we had two archimonde attempts where my threat (MT) didn't show up in omen for 30+ seconds after engage, so who knows ;) |
| 00:01.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I told him "well, you won't get a tank *that* way" ... he responded "well at least I get an answer this way" to which I returned "no, this way you out yourself as a complete retard >_>" and ignored him, lol |
| 00:01.34 | Knaledge | I used to use ALS to change the player's name to green if online but now I have a yellow friend name and green friend name |
| 00:02.21 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: we regularly have attempts on bosses where (a) tank(s) simply don't show up on omen at all |
| 00:02.40 | Knaledge | kemayo: any update on ALS? |
| 00:02.47 | Gnarfoz | (and other player's threat percentages are then stuck on something like 3306%) |
| 00:02.52 | NivFreak | that's the first time we've seen it since the 2.4 versions stopped breaking backward compatibility with every update ;) |
| 00:03.02 | CIA-45 | 03apoco * r78514 10RS_ClassColors/Hooks.lua: RS_ClassColors: Update for 2.4.3 |
| 00:03.22 | NivFreak | but I have my guild well trained now days |
| 00:03.29 | NivFreak | they all update immediately before raid |
| 00:03.38 | NivFreak | 10-15 mins before we start |
| 00:03.39 | kenlyric | lol |
| 00:03.43 | kenlyric | that's well trained? |
| 00:03.52 | NivFreak | yes |
| 00:03.53 | kenlyric | gso if something is broken :) |
| 00:04.08 | NivFreak | then I come bitch here |
| 00:04.14 | NivFreak | and someone patches it in mins ;) |
| 00:04.16 | kenlyric | I'd consider well-trained to be "don't fucking update 10 minutes before raid" |
| 00:04.43 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: can you test something for me ingame? |
| 00:04.47 | Orionshock | sure |
| 00:04.55 | NivFreak | see, the problem is you think there's a higher chance of something being broken within 10 minutes than whatever random time they last updated |
| 00:05.14 | Arrowmaster | string.format("%x",2^64) |
| 00:05.34 | Orionshock | "" |
| 00:05.34 | NivFreak | my experience with ace svn is that things are almost always in a better state after each checkin |
| 00:05.38 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:05.38 | Orionshock | "0" |
| 00:05.55 | Arrowmaster | ohrly |
| 00:05.57 | Orionshock | NivFreak: i updated 10 mins before raid all the time, never had a problem... |
| 00:06.10 | NivFreak | I have for a year or so |
| 00:06.11 | Orionshock | NivFreak: then again i watch all my wowace addons like a hawk |
| 00:06.18 | NivFreak | and I've had maybe 2-3 issues |
| 00:06.28 | NivFreak | most of which were around major 2.x patches |
| 00:06.37 | Arrowmaster | guesss what guys |
| 00:06.52 | Arrowmaster | 2.4.3 may have actually broken Threat-2.0 |
| 00:06.54 | NivFreak | omen works? |
| 00:06.55 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:06.56 | NivFreak | serious? |
| 00:07.04 | NivFreak | wtf did they change? |
| 00:07.06 | Arrowmaster | well string.format is broken |
| 00:07.18 | Killmore | my parrot is broken :( |
| 00:07.18 | Arrowmaster | %x %X |
| 00:07.21 | Arrowmaster | are broken |
| 00:07.28 | NivFreak | gg |
| 00:07.49 | Arrowmaster | i think Threat-2.0 might use string.format %x with numbers larger than 32 bits |
| 00:08.10 | Arrowmaster | anybody want to doublecheck while im writing this forum post |
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| 00:08.43 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78515 10sct/locals/localization.kr.lua: sct: KR Update |
| 00:09.32 | NivFreak | Threat-2.0.lua: local str = gsub(cguid, "(%x%x)", guid_compress_helper) |
| 00:09.40 | NivFreak | Threat-2.0.lua:local gsub, format = _G.string.gsub, _G.string.format |
| 00:09.44 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78516 10sct_options/locals/localization.kr.lua: sct_options: KR Update |
| 00:09.53 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r78517 10FeedMachine/ (. FeedMachine.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 00:09.53 | CIA-45 | FeedMachine: |
| 00:09.53 | CIA-45 | - Added embeds.xml |
| 00:09.53 | CIA-45 | - Fixed svn-externals property |
| 00:09.53 | CIA-45 | - Fixed LibPeriodicTable-3.1 external inclusion point |
| 00:09.54 | CIA-45 | - Removed empty libs directory for no-externals users |
| 00:10.30 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: yeah i wrote that guid compressor or atleast the original version of it but i cant even remember how it works now |
| 00:12.19 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%x",2^64) |
| 00:12.19 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0 |
| 00:12.26 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%x",2^40) |
| 00:12.27 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 10000000000 |
| 00:12.41 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%x",2^63) |
| 00:12.42 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 8000000000000000 |
| 00:13.06 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: want to double check that again since it seems 2^64 really should give 0 |
| 00:14.13 | Orionshock | ... Arrowmaster yeah, i tried it like 3 times " /dump string.format("%x", 2^64) == "0" |
| 00:14.28 | Arrowmaster | yeah try 2^63 |
| 00:14.28 | Orionshock | even the other way too /dump ( |
| 00:14.38 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78518 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: match on 2.4.3 SPELL_DISPEL events also |
| 00:14.44 | Orionshock | even the other way too /dump ("%x):format(2^64) |
| 00:15.35 | Orionshock | eh... well we might have a problem... |
| 00:15.44 | NivFreak | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903838049&sid=1 |
| 00:15.45 | Orionshock | it's all comming up 0 |
| 00:15.46 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:15.47 | Orionshock | >.> |
| 00:16.14 | Gnarfoz | if you need something tested on 2.4.2 |
| 00:16.19 | Gnarfoz | ask now, before EU servers go down. ;) |
| 00:16.31 | CIA-45 | 03grayhoof * r78519 10Proximo/Proximo.lua: Proximo: reverting back to /targetexact, as /targetenemyplayer doesn't appear to work on live. |
| 00:16.38 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:16.40 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: /dump string.format("%x", 2^63) |
| 00:16.46 | NivFreak | poor proximo |
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| 00:17.06 | Groktar | stealthed on the isle badge vendor again |
| 00:17.06 | Groktar | woot |
| 00:17.11 | Gnarfoz | ArPharazon: "0" |
| 00:17.20 | Arrowmaster | ehh? |
| 00:17.22 | Gnarfoz | errm |
| 00:17.27 | Arrowmaster | srsly? |
| 00:17.30 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 00:17.34 | Arrowmaster | 63 not 64 right? |
| 00:17.43 | Gnarfoz | I copy/pasted |
| 00:17.49 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 00:17.50 | kaiden | bleh.. i wish blizz would just go ahead and add an "Appearance" slot system for wow |
| 00:18.17 | NivFreak | what provides /dump? |
| 00:18.19 | NivFreak | ace? |
| 00:18.23 | Arrowmaster | ok both of you try string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
| 00:18.24 | Gnarfoz | aceconsole |
| 00:18.28 | Gnarfoz | (among others) |
| 00:18.30 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
| 00:18.31 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 4294967297 |
| 00:18.52 | Knaledge | so does Omen work right now or no? |
| 00:18.55 | Arrowmaster | that should give 1 for orion |
| 00:18.58 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: 02:18:34|"-2147483648" |
| 00:19.01 | Knaledge | also is there any reason to use KTM over Omen? |
| 00:19.19 | Groktar | omen seemed fine in gruul's |
| 00:19.22 | Arrowmaster | wtf its broken in 2.4.2 too? |
| 00:19.27 | Groktar | and no to ktm |
| 00:19.30 | Groktar | nobody even has it |
| 00:19.32 | NivFreak | I get -2147483648 on 2.4.3 |
| 00:19.44 | Groktar | just update it |
| 00:19.46 | Gnarfoz | it wraps around, what do you expect it to do? |
| 00:19.58 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.01 | Orionshock | ? |
| 00:20.08 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
| 00:20.08 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 4294967297 |
| 00:20.09 | Gnarfoz | Orionshock: yes |
| 00:20.16 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%d", bit.band(2^32+1)) |
| 00:20.17 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1 |
| 00:20.24 | Arrowmaster | ........... |
| 00:20.46 | Orionshock | looks like blizzard broke the lua's number cruncher... |
| 00:20.53 | Arrowmaster | no just string.format |
| 00:21.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah. I get something else than what luabot gives you for string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
| 00:21.49 | Gnarfoz | on 2.4.2, though. |
| 00:21.55 | Gnarfoz | i.e. this is not new |
| 00:23.33 | Arrowmaster | clad|away, cog|away: I NEED YOU GUYS! |
| 00:24.21 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: why does that look like a plea to god? |
| 00:24.28 | Arrowmaster | so yeah im getting '1' from lua.exe |
| 00:24.48 | JoshBorke | Arrowmaster: sounds like your lua.exe is broken |
| 00:24.58 | Arrowmaster | i tried 2 different lua.exe's |
| 00:25.20 | JoshBorke | pastey the lua code |
| 00:25.32 | Arrowmaster | make that 3 lua.exe's |
| 00:25.50 | Arrowmaster | 1 offical 5.1.2, and 2 of cogwheels lua.exe's configured to match wow |
| 00:26.13 | Arrowmaster | JoshBorke: return string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
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| 00:26.48 | JoshBorke | hm, works in my 64 bit linux machine |
| 00:26.50 | Arrowmaster | wow gives "-2147483648", lua_bot gives "4294967297", and lua.exe gives "1" |
| 00:27.16 | Arrowmaster | 32bit lua.exe |
| 00:27.43 | Arrowmaster | although i have crashed it with os.date() before when giving it a larger than 32bit number |
| 00:27.46 | JoshBorke | too bad windows doesn't give you an error |
| 00:28.25 | NivFreak | Lua 5.1.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2007 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 00:28.25 | NivFreak | > return string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
| 00:28.26 | NivFreak | 4294967297 |
| 00:28.38 | JoshBorke | NivFreak: 64 or 32 bit? |
| 00:28.56 | Arrowmaster | must be 64 or my computer is completely broken |
| 00:28.59 | NivFreak | 64bit |
| 00:29.06 | Orionshock | im also running wow on a 64bit os and proc |
| 00:29.07 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78520 10PhatLoot/ (4 files in 2 dirs): PhatLoot: Added Blizzard config options |
| 00:29.11 | NivFreak | I'm not sure i have a 32bit lua anywhere |
| 00:29.52 | JoshBorke | i know i don't have 32 bit lua anywhere |
| 00:29.54 | JoshBorke | so i can't check |
| 00:30.17 | Arrowmaster | > return string.format("%.0f", 2^32+1) |
| 00:30.17 | Arrowmaster | 4294967297 |
| 00:30.38 | JoshBorke | lua> return string.format("%.0f",2^64+1) |
| 00:30.39 | lua_bot | JoshBorke: 18446744073709551616 |
| 00:30.43 | JoshBorke | oooo |
| 00:30.45 | JoshBorke | smart bot |
| 00:30.47 | NivFreak | Lua 5.0.2 Copyright (C) 1994-2004 Tecgraf, PUC-Rio |
| 00:30.47 | NivFreak | > return string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
| 00:30.47 | NivFreak | -2147483648 |
| 00:30.56 | NivFreak | 32bit, but 5.0.2 |
| 00:30.57 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 00:31.12 | Arrowmaster | thats what wow gives |
| 00:31.26 | NivFreak | 5.0.2 on OSX 10.5 |
| 00:31.28 | Arrowmaster | ok need to find a 5.1.1 |
| 00:31.29 | NivFreak | via fink |
| 00:32.17 | NivFreak | let me build it |
| 00:32.24 | Arrowmaster | oh wait i have 5.1.1 although its cogs modified version |
| 00:32.56 | NivFreak | Lua 5.1.3 Copyright (C) 1994-2008 Lua.org, PUC-Rio |
| 00:32.56 | NivFreak | > return string.format("%d", 2^32+1) |
| 00:32.56 | NivFreak | -2147483648 |
| 00:33.04 | NivFreak | er |
| 00:33.04 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 00:33.07 | NivFreak | well, 5.1.3 |
| 00:33.10 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 00:33.16 | Arrowmaster | 5.1.2 gives '1' |
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| 00:33.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:33.39 | Orionshock | and in conclusion; something is fked.... |
| 00:33.57 | Arrowmaster | im taking this to #lua |
| 00:34.14 | Orionshock | well tell us what they say.. |
| 00:34.38 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78521 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: make that SPELL_AURA_BROKEN, woops. |
| 00:34.54 | sylvanaar | i have been using 5.1.3 for almost a year |
| 00:35.03 | NivFreak | string.format("%") may read past the string. |
| 00:35.04 | NivFreak | reported by Roberto in Sep 2006. Fixed in 5.1.2. |
| 00:35.06 | NivFreak | maybe that? |
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| 00:35.40 | sylvanaar | oh nm, i was on 5.1.2 |
| 00:35.45 | sylvanaar | why not just diff them |
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| 00:37.14 | Knaledge | real quick - I need a technical reason why KTM is shitty compared to Omen2 |
| 00:37.23 | Knaledge | like.. something KTM doesn't calc |
| 00:37.36 | Knaledge | or.. something glaringly wrong with KTM as opposed to Omen2 |
| 00:38.10 | NivFreak | how about, we just hate the author? |
| 00:38.17 | Knaledge | seriously.. |
| 00:38.22 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78522 10PitBull/PitBull.lua: PitBull - Don't fill framesByUnitName when name can't be determined |
| 00:38.31 | Knaledge | convincing like three guilds on PM to switch over to it |
| 00:38.34 | ccKep | if YOU can't think of any reason then you don't need one |
| 00:38.53 | ccKep | "mod is bad because shittykep on irc told me so - wont use itz!" |
| 00:38.53 | Knaledge | ladies, calm down. |
| 00:39.05 | Knaledge | just need a reason to not use KTM over Omen2 |
| 00:39.15 | NivFreak | performance |
| 00:39.17 | Knaledge | and I'm looking for someone with experience to answer that |
| 00:39.39 | NivFreak | most of the omen/threat authors are either AFK or scrambling to fix it |
| 00:39.42 | Knaledge | looking more for like "KTM doesn't calc this" |
| 00:39.43 | NivFreak | so good luck :) |
| 00:40.13 | Knaledge | like apparently, my.Ability is .. something that doesn't work in KTM |
| 00:40.20 | Knaledge | reports back no known spell, etc. |
| 00:40.45 | ccKep | "hurry, I need a bug so I dont have to use it" |
| 00:41.31 | ccKep | honestly though... try both, keep whichever you prefer |
| 00:41.33 | copystring | lol |
| 00:41.46 | Knaledge | honestly though, looking for something more technical |
| 00:42.03 | Knaledge | though I do wish you well ccKep |
| 00:42.06 | Knaledge | pain must be awful |
| 00:42.35 | ccKep | it will calc your abilities and threat modifiers, if you dont like it dont use it |
| 00:42.46 | *** part/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@74.202.196.195) |
| 00:42.56 | ccKep | omen/threat has its advantages though - if thats what you wanted to hear |
| 00:43.12 | NivFreak | I can tell you some major issues with omen/threat if you want ;) |
| 00:43.29 | Knaledge | if it works in KTM and in Omen I don't care |
| 00:43.46 | Knaledge | testify to your knowledge, its a shame a basic question can't be answered |
| 00:43.47 | Knaledge | letting me down |
| 00:43.57 | Knaledge | anyone else want to take a crack at it? |
| 00:44.00 | Aiiane | It's a shame you expect people to answer your questions on demand |
| 00:44.03 | ccKep | I dont get that basic question, guess I'm just too dumb |
| 00:44.08 | Aiiane | and on short notice at that |
| 00:44.11 | NivFreak | threat-2.0 can't deal with taunting mobs that fixate |
| 00:44.14 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:44.35 | Knaledge | good thing that doesnt happen on boss fights |
| 00:44.37 | Knaledge | next |
| 00:44.39 | NivFreak | a'lar |
| 00:44.41 | Knaledge | Something like this: KTM <my.ability> No spell rank defined for revenge. |
| 00:44.41 | NivFreak | phase 1 |
| 00:44.44 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: ("%d"):format( date("!%Y%m%d%H%M%S") ) used to work for you right? and give a larger than 32 bit number in wow? |
| 00:44.44 | Knaledge | who the fuck does al'ar? |
| 00:45.02 | ccKep | (didnt knew al'ar fixates) |
| 00:45.07 | NivFreak | phase1 |
| 00:45.16 | ccKep | just unable to move afaik? |
| 00:45.19 | Knaledge | good answer for like 2 years ago |
| 00:45.25 | Orionshock | um Arrowmaster don't exactly know.. |
| 00:45.28 | ccKep | hunter pets / melees could still normally pull aggro |
| 00:45.28 | NivFreak | he fixates on the person standing on each platform for a period of time |
| 00:45.46 | NivFreak | Knaledge: you sure have a shitty attitude for someone asking for help |
| 00:45.51 | Arrowmaster | i know melee that has pulled aggro on alar p1 |
| 00:45.52 | NivFreak | and in a way that no one understands |
| 00:46.02 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: yea, melee range has threat |
| 00:46.09 | NivFreak | but who puts mele on a'lar in p1? :P |
| 00:46.11 | NivFreak | melee |
| 00:46.23 | Arrowmaster | our melee used to attack him before a spawn |
| 00:46.34 | Knaledge | its how you do it |
| 00:46.38 | NivFreak | mine are too lazy for that I'd imagine |
| 00:46.40 | Knaledge | melee on a'lar p1 |
| 00:46.44 | NivFreak | we haven't been in tk for a long time though |
| 00:47.32 | NivFreak | and we always put melee on birds in p1 |
| 00:47.43 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: seems like it's been fked from the beggining... |
| 00:47.44 | Knaledge | yeah that's inefficient |
| 00:47.54 | Knaledge | birds die when a'lar changes phase |
| 00:47.54 | ccKep | thought he just had a normal threat list except he can't move and has no ranged attacks, so he keeps bashing melee ^.^ |
| 00:48.05 | NivFreak | Knaledge: only if you aoe them down |
| 00:48.13 | Knaledge | and you wouldn't? |
| 00:48.16 | Knaledge | lock tank |
| 00:48.20 | Knaledge | or have bear |
| 00:48.27 | NivFreak | we used a prot pally |
| 00:48.30 | NivFreak | but who cares |
| 00:48.30 | Arrowmaster | ok so good news, one positive thing has come from this bug |
| 00:48.33 | Knaledge | either way that shit is like a year old |
| 00:48.46 | NivFreak | so great, anything but sunwell is a year old |
| 00:48.49 | NivFreak | what's your point |
| 00:48.50 | Arrowmaster | i think its safe to assume that wow is using lua 5.1.3 now |
| 00:48.58 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: haha |
| 00:49.17 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 00:49.20 | NivFreak | so this is behavior that was just in 5.1.2? |
| 00:49.20 | Arrowmaster | im serious |
| 00:49.35 | Arrowmaster | my 5.1.1 had it too |
| 00:49.40 | Arrowmaster | the returning 1 |
| 00:50.09 | NivFreak | so what's the fix |
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| 00:50.21 | NivFreak | a different format string? |
| 00:50.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont think there is one |
| 00:50.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 00:50.41 | ccKep | [Server] Shutdown in 11:00 |
| 00:50.42 | ccKep | QQ |
| 00:50.46 | ccKep | bye muru |
| 00:50.49 | NivFreak | this is why I don't raid on tuesdays |
| 00:50.50 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:51.08 | ccKep | well, its wednesday here ;) |
| 00:51.12 | ccKep | 2:50 AM |
| 00:51.18 | Arrowmaster | "%.0f" instead of "%d" is wanting to use whole numbers larger than 32bit |
| 00:51.23 | NivFreak | if I lived in the eu, I wouldn't raid wednesdays :) |
| 00:51.28 | Arrowmaster | s/is/if/ |
| 00:51.32 | ccKep | yep, we dont ;) |
| 00:52.23 | ccKep | sucks though, 2.4.3 should've taken one more month |
| 00:52.25 | ccKep | or so |
| 00:52.43 | NivFreak | why? |
| 00:53.02 | ccKep | my guild hates muru nerf |
| 00:53.05 | ccKep | we didnt down him yet |
| 00:53.13 | ccKep | but we were optimistic we would in the next ID |
| 00:53.15 | NivFreak | well then you fail the hardcore test |
| 00:53.17 | NivFreak | :) |
| 00:53.20 | ccKep | now he's nerfed |
| 00:53.26 | NeoTron | server having issues? |
| 00:53.35 | ccKep | and everyone's gotta say "haha, immediately killed after nerf, ezmode" -.- |
| 00:53.37 | NeoTron | my guild loves the m'uru nerf. at least I do |
| 00:53.41 | NivFreak | we don't have a guild on my server that has killed muru yet |
| 00:53.46 | NeoTron | and I'll say "and I care why?" |
| 00:53.54 | ccKep | well, muru was fine |
| 00:53.58 | ccKep | even though we didnt down him |
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| 00:54.02 | NeoTron | not really |
| 00:54.12 | NeoTron | 2.5 months and less than 100 kills is not fine |
| 00:54.13 | NivFreak | I dislike what they are doing in sunwell in general |
| 00:54.20 | ccKep | its the second to last boss |
| 00:54.23 | ccKep | what'd you expect? |
| 00:54.25 | NivFreak | having to make massive shifts of your raid comp from boss to boss is lame |
| 00:54.26 | NeoTron | a fight that requires 6 healers is wrong |
| 00:54.29 | ccKep | 500k guilds farming him for 6 month? |
| 00:54.41 | NeoTron | now you can shift to a more reasonble 7-8 healers most likely |
| 00:54.45 | NeoTron | which will balance the raid in general |
| 00:54.47 | CIA-45 | 03orionshock * r78523 10GuildCraft/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:54.47 | CIA-45 | GuildCraft: Add Offline Check feature (in guild only, you might see ppl u didn't |
| 00:54.47 | CIA-45 | before and are not in guild), is beta u will see some debug. Add Extended |
| 00:54.47 | CIA-45 | tooltip in fubar module to show player-distr dbversion of everyone on the realm. |
| 00:54.52 | ccKep | you wont, atleast thats not my guess |
| 00:55.00 | NivFreak | but don't you use like 10-11 healers on twins? :P |
| 00:55.01 | NeoTron | you can. we won't for starters |
| 00:55.06 | NeoTron | yes you do |
| 00:55.06 | ccKep | just use the same setup and enter p2 1min earlier ^.^ |
| 00:55.27 | NivFreak | then again, people always talk about using 10 healers on bloodboil, and our first kill was with 7 |
| 00:55.35 | NeoTron | make it a bit easier and you can make the choice (it's mainly p2 anyway) |
| 00:55.37 | aestil | how come i have to reload the ui for BT4 to recognize that i moved my stuff around on action bars? |
| 00:55.41 | NeoTron | more dps or more healing - pick what works |
| 00:55.48 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78524 10StatBlock_RangedStats/ (6 files): StatBlock_RangedStats: Import |
| 00:55.54 | Funkeh` | omgwtf |
| 00:55.57 | Funkeh` | 5min before shutdown |
| 00:56.05 | Stanzilla | zomgwtfbbq |
| 00:56.10 | Apoco | wtf is FCF_IsAdvancedChatEnabled |
| 00:56.17 | ccKep | healing in p1 is the easy part, and if entropius health is lowered the dmg there is automatically reduced too due to shorter duration |
| 00:56.29 | ccKep | stuff dies faster = overall less dmg incoming = no need for 7th healer imho |
| 00:56.36 | Dashkal | What do we currently have for LDB Displayers? Fortress and StatBlockCore? |
| 00:57.06 | NeoTron | it'll be easier to learn |
| 00:57.13 | NeoTron | more healers gives you a bit more margin for error |
| 00:57.13 | ccKep | yeah, thats right |
| 00:57.19 | CIA-45 | 03orionshock * r78525 10GuildCraft/GuildCraft.toc: GuildCraft: sync toc files. |
| 00:57.21 | NeoTron | and I doubt he'll be a pushover anyway |
| 00:57.25 | ccKep | atleast the first statement |
| 00:57.31 | NeoTron | it's not too disimilar from the Kael'thas nerf |
| 00:58.14 | NeoTron | I don't understand the complaint though. stuff is beaten by some, then it's nerfed once, maybe twice |
| 00:58.20 | NeoTron | it'll Always follow that way |
| 00:58.27 | ccKep | yeah, I dont complain about that |
| 00:58.33 | ccKep | I thnk its just like 1 month too early |
| 00:58.40 | NeoTron | you know that quite a few guilds have died over M'uru (I suspect weaker guilds in terms of "outside raiding" but still) |
| 00:59.01 | NeoTron | also now I can probably bring my boomkin in there.. or an arms warrior |
| 00:59.06 | NeoTron | or someone else that's not optimal max dps |
| 00:59.14 | NeoTron | I still WON'T until he's dead but I probably could |
| 00:59.15 | ccKep | wrath's still going to take mooonth till release, I see massivce guild burnout coming when we've got nothing more to do :( |
| 00:59.16 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78526 10StatBlock_RangedStats/: StatBlock_RangedStats: svn stuff |
| 00:59.33 | ccKep | we have an arms warrior in there too |
| 00:59.39 | ccKep | does quite good dps as far as I remember |
| 01:00.15 | NeoTron | I'm going to be happy to farm for a while |
| 01:00.19 | NeoTron | get a chance to get some gear |
| 01:00.29 | NeoTron | heck after 6+ months of illidan we still kill him |
| 01:00.32 | ccKep | what would you need that for? |
| 01:00.41 | NeoTron | leveling of course |
| 01:00.46 | NeoTron | and early wotlk raiding |
| 01:00.47 | ccKep | I can do that on my green alt too |
| 01:01.02 | ccKep | illidan / BT gear was atleast needed in sunwell :( |
| 01:01.16 | NeoTron | I predict more peopel ahve burned out over M'uru up until now than will burn out from farming KJ too long |
| 01:01.24 | NeoTron | you forget RNG |
| 01:01.27 | NeoTron | one glaive. |
| 01:01.34 | ccKep | 2 glaives here |
| 01:01.34 | NeoTron | 2 skulls (one person with one left the guild) |
| 01:01.40 | ccKep | firstkill october 28th ^.^ |
| 01:01.50 | NeoTron | a guy last night just upgraded his naj'entus sword |
| 01:01.57 | NeoTron | after 7 months |
| 01:02.10 | Kuosi | naj'entus sword? oO |
| 01:02.25 | NeoTron | yes. the caster sword from Naj'entus |
| 01:02.28 | NeoTron | don't remember what it's called |
| 01:02.30 | Kuosi | it's dagger |
| 01:02.40 | ccKep | maelstroms fury a think |
| 01:03.04 | NivFreak | something like that |
| 01:03.08 | ccKep | arms warrior did 1900 dps on muru (p1 that is) - quite like it |
| 01:03.10 | NivFreak | seem to dorp like candy |
| 01:03.18 | NeoTron | ok dagger. whatever :P |
| 01:03.31 | NivFreak | have you guys ever seen a tempest of chaos? |
| 01:03.52 | NeoTron | 5 |
| 01:03.54 | NivFreak | wow |
| 01:04.08 | NivFreak | hopefully we'll have that kind of luck |
| 01:04.23 | ccKep | killing illidan since october and had as many healing maces as warglaives... 2 |
| 01:04.27 | ccKep | RNG just sucks |
| 01:04.46 | NeoTron | two of the 5 are out of guild |
| 01:04.48 | Kuosi | 1 mace ever |
| 01:04.52 | ccKep | 3 mementos though, hahaha |
| 01:05.01 | ccKep | hugs his memento |
| 01:05.20 | NivFreak | we haven't seen a toc or cats edge off archi yet |
| 01:05.30 | NivFreak | but we haven't been farming him long |
| 01:05.39 | NivFreak | and I'd rather stop sooner than later |
| 01:05.40 | Kuosi | my pala has both |
| 01:05.42 | NeoTron | we've had 4, two which no longer are in the guild |
| 01:05.46 | NivFreak | I hate bringing new people to him |
| 01:05.49 | Kuosi | toc and cat edge |
| 01:06.02 | ccKep | newbies just gotta wait in the well =) |
| 01:06.03 | sedai| | i eat gnomes |
| 01:06.04 | NeoTron | 7 mememntos |
| 01:06.11 | NivFreak | wait in the well? |
| 01:06.18 | NivFreak | lol |
| 01:06.20 | ccKep | that small lake thingie :D |
| 01:06.21 | NivFreak | can they loot? |
| 01:06.25 | ccKep | dunno |
| 01:06.33 | ccKep | maybe wand or something at the beginning |
| 01:06.36 | ccKep | and then get the fuck away |
| 01:06.39 | NivFreak | lol |
| 01:06.47 | ccKep | I'm not retarded, so I didn't have to wait there =) |
| 01:06.48 | NivFreak | so right now I sit people if they die twice |
| 01:07.00 | NivFreak | but I'd LOVE to make them pay repairs |
| 01:07.10 | NivFreak | but sitting them somewhere where he'd FoD them |
| 01:07.13 | ccKep | we've got plenty of skulls, but not so much mementos I think :( |
| 01:07.14 | NivFreak | by |
| 01:07.43 | Funkeh` | You know if I could be assed I could count nearly 10 necb lones already |
| 01:07.48 | Funkeh` | clones |
| 01:08.12 | NivFreak | I miss the real NECB =( |
| 01:08.17 | ccKep | 9 skulls so far |
| 01:09.18 | NeoTron | damn rng |
| 01:09.28 | NeoTron | make it fricking token based |
| 01:09.34 | ccKep | I'd rather have my damn (placeholder-)twins shoulders |
| 01:09.37 | NeoTron | especially on items you can't really replace like trinkets |
| 01:09.43 | NeoTron | those I got |
| 01:09.50 | ccKep | resto shaman, I mean |
| 01:09.53 | NeoTron | we've had 3 out of 4 kills (caster dps ones that is() |
| 01:09.54 | ccKep | dropped twice now |
| 01:10.02 | ccKep | one went to an alt as I passed on it |
| 01:10.08 | NeoTron | an alt? |
| 01:10.09 | ccKep | (we brought an alt shaman for our first kills) |
| 01:10.13 | NeoTron | well so did we |
| 01:10.22 | NeoTron | but we sure as heck wouldn't give the alt an item over mains |
| 01:10.23 | ccKep | yeah, he had rather crappy equip |
| 01:10.34 | ccKep | and as those shoulders aren't in my final-equip I passed on it |
| 01:10.40 | ccKep | so its easier for him to heal next ID and such |
| 01:10.46 | ccKep | now he has rather good gear for an alt |
| 01:10.49 | Gnarfoz | the setup stuff in SWP is what drove us to decide for our guild to not enter SWP at all. |
| 01:10.56 | ccKep | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackhand&n=Shalyla |
| 01:11.03 | ccKep | woot |
| 01:11.06 | ccKep | he put t6 shoulder son |
| 01:11.09 | ccKep | whyyyyyy |
| 01:11.14 | ccKep | ah |
| 01:11.14 | ccKep | 4pc |
| 01:11.17 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: are you really ready for SWP at all? I thought you were just progressing in BT? |
| 01:11.18 | ccKep | bastard |
| 01:11.23 | NeoTron | 4pc is good(ly) |
| 01:11.34 | ccKep | 4pc shaman is neccessary, yeah |
| 01:11.57 | NeoTron | we now have an alt shaman, an enhance shaman and an elemental shaman with gear to heal twins |
| 01:12.06 | NeoTron | plus 3 fulltime resto shamans and 1 part time |
| 01:12.12 | NeoTron | so we're covered |
| 01:12.39 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: we firstkilled Illidan on monday this week. No, we're probably not ready by far, even though of course there's lots of people in the guild who're like "OMG let's go to sunwell!" ("and be fucking CRUSHED by trash mobs? yeah right, we're not doing that...") |
| 01:13.17 | ccKep | trashmobs are a pain in the ass the first times you do them |
| 01:13.21 | Gnarfoz | (we've been farming the rest of BT for a while though, Euro 2008 football championship for example cost us two IDs, for example) |
| 01:13.32 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: you said > return string.format("%d", 2^32+1) gave -2147483648 on 5.1.3, need system details? windows/osx/linux? |
| 01:14.02 | Gnarfoz | it does for me, on windows |
| 01:14.05 | Gnarfoz | (xp, 32 bit) |
| 01:14.13 | ccKep | sometimes those robots just decide to chain-cast a ton of those chain lightnings |
| 01:14.28 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: yes you're not ready :P |
| 01:14.33 | Kuosi | kalecgos is doable for a guild that has killed illi few times |
| 01:14.41 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: that's not what it's about, at all, anyway. |
| 01:14.48 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: 5.1.3 32bit xp? where did you download that binary from? |
| 01:14.55 | Kuosi | not so much of a gear check |
| 01:15.03 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: dunno, some link off lua.org, I guess |
| 01:15.04 | NeoTron | it's quite a heavy gear check actually |
| 01:15.22 | Gnarfoz | SWP is to ensure the hardcore raiders won't get bored out of their minds until WotLK |
| 01:15.22 | NeoTron | lots of healing, heavy hitting mobs (good tank/tank heals) and you need the dps to burn them down in the end |
| 01:15.22 | ccKep | atleast for tanks and healers (healers not sooo much anymore since revitalize is fixed) |
| 01:15.30 | Kuosi | compared to brut? :o |
| 01:15.36 | NeoTron | revitalize helps a lot |
| 01:15.54 | Gnarfoz | we're *not* gonna risk our raiding force on that :> |
| 01:15.59 | NeoTron | Kuosi: no, compared to... illidari council, illidan, archimonde... |
| 01:16.07 | Kuosi | well yeah |
| 01:16.18 | Kuosi | none of those rly req dps at all |
| 01:16.23 | Gnarfoz | while kalecgos might even be doable some time soon, brutallus is totally out of the question for us |
| 01:16.23 | ccKep | my alt warrior can tank illidan I think, but I _really_ doubt he could tank kalecgos xD |
| 01:16.47 | NeoTron | brutallus pretty much requires 4xt6 at a minimum on dps classes for example |
| 01:17.05 | Gnarfoz | don't start ^^ we're on RP-PVP |
| 01:17.06 | NeoTron | and of course good support items |
| 01:17.11 | ccKep | I find SK's dps on brutallus rather sick |
| 01:17.16 | Gnarfoz | we've been downgraded to 'low' from 'medium' a while ago |
| 01:17.23 | Gnarfoz | I wonder when we'll be at 'recommended' again |
| 01:17.42 | NeoTron | RP-PVP - makes me lol |
| 01:18.06 | Gnarfoz | there's one horde raid into SWP, and they're on M'uru (but they have X-server transfers incoming now and then, and they really have the top of the entire horde side) |
| 01:18.16 | NeoTron | "stop ganking me!" "I'm not ganking, I'm rping a mean dude that likes to kill you lololol" |
| 01:18.32 | Gnarfoz | those dudes eat tickets and earn bans really swift ;) |
| 01:19.10 | NeoTron | Pvplollerskate ganks you for 10 roleplay points. |
| 01:19.10 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-179-93.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 01:19.12 | ccKep | if I only was a troll shaman -.- |
| 01:19.28 | Gnarfoz | one of the 'younger' alliance raids has killed Kalecgos this ID, I think, (they've killed Illidan months ago) and "the" alliance raid has finally just killed Felmyst last ID, after being stuck on Brutallus for 3 months or more |
| 01:20.13 | NeoTron | we have 3 guilds on muru, 1 on KJ (by now I bet 2 on KJ) and then no one has killed felmyst |
| 01:20.25 | Gnarfoz | I think they've equipped something like 2 full raids in those 3 months, farming BT and MH to equip them scrubs, only to discard them soon after because they were actually terribad |
| 01:20.49 | NeoTron | the 2nd guild (top horde) killed twins on 5/2 |
| 01:20.53 | *** join/#wowace Lopen (n=Lopen@c-68-60-55-138.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 01:20.57 | NeoTron | and they have worked on muru since (8-9% P2) |
| 01:21.00 | Gnarfoz | what's that in a non-confusable date format? |
| 01:21.01 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.06 | ccKep | terribads are reaaally bad in sunwell |
| 01:21.11 | NeoTron | may 2nd |
| 01:21.15 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 01:21.16 | ccKep | people who just can't heal/move or such |
| 01:21.31 | NeoTron | we've discovered some terribads |
| 01:21.32 | ccKep | our new paladin recruit died THREE times on our last felmyst kill |
| 01:21.40 | ccKep | and his number #1 healing target was himself... |
| 01:21.45 | NeoTron | we have a boomkin like tha but I think she's finally figured it out |
| 01:21.55 | NeoTron | we've had priests and pallies die from no debuff |
| 01:22.03 | NeoTron | I mean mass dispell might fail |
| 01:22.18 | NeoTron | but don't let the damn thing tick on yourself 3 times w/o healing yourself or dispelling |
| 01:22.21 | NeoTron | reall |
| 01:22.23 | ccKep | (apropos mass dispel fail... epic fail on muru, eeepic fail...) |
| 01:22.35 | Gnarfoz | I think they've gone through at least 4 retadins, 3 hunters (one was ours before, but he was playing via someone else's wireless lan (without them knowing of course), so his connectivity was rather bad), several of each caster class... the list goes on >_> |
| 01:23.15 | NeoTron | that we've had good luck with after a few wipes |
| 01:23.37 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: we had the same kind of luck with druids |
| 01:23.45 | NeoTron | 2-3 resto druids |
| 01:24.09 | NeoTron | both fail completely a t"lifebloom" and one even refused to use tree form because "it makes me move too slow" (she died a lot... in SSC/TK) |
| 01:24.18 | Gnarfoz | anyway, all this lead to us 5 guild leaders (yay democracy! xD) deciding rather not to seriously attempt SWP |
| 01:24.27 | ccKep | just assigned both our spriests to mass dispel everytime, chances of ONE mob resisting mass dispel twice in a row should be reeeally low :o |
| 01:24.33 | NeoTron | 2 feral druid. first one played from a laptop, using wireless network, without a mouse, sitting on a couch |
| 01:24.39 | NeoTron | and her laptop overheated at times |
| 01:24.53 | Gnarfoz | lol must have watched too many ads |
| 01:24.56 | Gnarfoz | for laptops, I mean |
| 01:25.00 | NeoTron | 2nd one was really good, but unreliable. then his gf (or so he claims) transferred him off server |
| 01:25.14 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.17 | ccKep | lol wtf |
| 01:25.18 | Gnarfoz | where everyone is like relaxing on a couch, using their laptops. or sitting outside in a garden or whatever :D |
| 01:25.18 | NeoTron | when asked he said he "was bored' |
| 01:25.23 | ccKep | "sry, my girlfriends transferred my char" |
| 01:25.39 | NeoTron | ccKep: think is, I think he told the truth |
| 01:25.53 | NeoTron | he was like 18 or 19 or somethingf |
| 01:25.59 | NeoTron | bad experience with youngins in general |
| 01:26.00 | Gnarfoz | maybe he was bored after being stuck on a realm he didn't wanna go to for 2 weeks :P |
| 01:26.11 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: yeah but he apped and gave a reason "transferred here for pvp" |
| 01:26.15 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 01:26.16 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 01:26.23 | ccKep | the 1950 dps arms warrior I mentioned before is 14 (or 15 at max) years old |
| 01:26.24 | Gnarfoz | hah our RL guild meeting was fun in that respect |
| 01:26.30 | NeoTron | he told me "didn't think they would bring me in if I said I was going to leave in 2 weeks" |
| 01:26.36 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: think that it could explain alot of weirdness with Threat2? |
| 01:26.39 | ccKep | but he's _REALLY_ the coolest guy we have in our guild |
| 01:26.42 | NeoTron | ours did 1850ish dps on brutallus |
| 01:26.43 | ArPharazon | damn you guys in sunwell ... my guild is still stuck in TK :/ |
| 01:26.48 | Gnarfoz | 2 of the other guild leaders have grey hair. lol, voice chat really gives you no impression at all :D |
| 01:27.01 | NeoTron | 1550 dps when having to both thunderclap and demo |
| 01:27.11 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: not sure, id have to check how much string.format is being used first to determine that |
| 01:27.36 | NeoTron | pretty insane |
| 01:27.40 | NeoTron | anyhow time to go home |
| 01:27.53 | Gnarfoz | I'm not even reaching those numbers, and I'm a rogue for god's sake, wtf |
| 01:28.41 | Gnarfoz | actually, I should probably check that, not paying attention too much when leading raids ^^ |
| 01:28.53 | ccKep | http://wowwebstats.com/oqsuhcnrc3xbq?s=25201-54261 |
| 01:29.00 | ccKep | one rogue DC'ed at like 60% ^.^ |
| 01:29.05 | sylvanaar | a clock - they added a clock and a timer |
| 01:29.32 | ccKep | the other was on meteor slash soaking duty due to missing ranged DDs (going to change our tactic next ID to only need 4 additional soakers to the tank) |
| 01:29.41 | Gnarfoz | ccKep: stats say he didn't? |
| 01:29.42 | ArPharazon | time to find an alternative to wowwebstats ... |
| 01:29.50 | ccKep | 74% dps time |
| 01:30.00 | Gnarfoz | ah, that one |
| 01:30.09 | Gnarfoz | ArPharazon: good luck? :p |
| 01:30.26 | ccKep | and Lillith didn't have support and had to hit from the front |
| 01:30.34 | ccKep | no windfury and parries and such |
| 01:30.39 | ccKep | but 1900 dps anyway ^.^ |
| 01:30.54 | Gnarfoz | parries? |
| 01:31.01 | Gnarfoz | he shouldn't be parried, ever |
| 01:31.13 | ccKep | he had to hit from the front in that kill |
| 01:31.17 | ccKep | due to missing ranged DDs |
| 01:31.20 | ccKep | soaking meteor slash and such |
| 01:31.23 | Gnarfoz | so? does he run with 0 expertise? |
| 01:31.30 | ccKep | no, but not capped for parries I think |
| 01:31.34 | ccKep | 15% parry or so? |
| 01:31.40 | Gnarfoz | no, 6.5% like the doge part oO |
| 01:31.47 | ccKep | nope |
| 01:31.48 | ccKep | never |
| 01:31.50 | ccKep | just, never |
| 01:32.05 | ccKep | opens wowwiki |
| 01:32.29 | Gnarfoz | open EJ instead ;p |
| 01:32.45 | Gnarfoz | yeah, 2% parry |
| 01:32.58 | ccKep | 2%, and he had a shitload of expertise I think |
| 01:33.43 | Gnarfoz | well, it's not like much expertise is around... unless he was wearing SoC, T6 AND the vashj waist |
| 01:34.05 | Gnarfoz | lol the armory linking in wws is b0rked |
| 01:34.15 | Gnarfoz | it links to eu.wowwarmory.com ;) |
| 01:34.39 | ccKep | lol |
| 01:34.49 | Arrowmaster | bosses have varring amounts of parry, but always the same amount of dodge |
| 01:34.53 | Gnarfoz | lol he's using WSC oO (yeah I know ArP is strong, but...)... and he's overshooting the hit cap |
| 01:35.01 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: wtf? |
| 01:35.06 | Stanzilla | are there real numbers for the muru nerf, yet? |
| 01:35.31 | Arrowmaster | some bosses have higher amount of parry than others from what ive heard |
| 01:35.43 | Gnarfoz | never heard of that |
| 01:35.45 | Arrowmaster | like 5%-15% |
| 01:35.58 | Gnarfoz | (besides maybe a difference in dual wielders vs. non-dw'ers |
| 01:36.16 | Arrowmaster | the DW one is just weird |
| 01:36.22 | Arrowmaster | it depends entirely on the boss |
| 01:37.56 | sylvanaar | ok, so i have no UI errors with the new patch |
| 01:38.18 | sylvanaar | anything i should try doing? |
| 01:38.34 | Gnarfoz | yes, enjoying the game :D |
| 01:38.40 | Gnarfoz | (hurrr.) |
| 01:38.59 | ccKep | stabbing muru and reporting health ^.^ |
| 01:39.18 | Gnarfoz | also, wws for Teron in mid-june show me doing 1900dps, hrm. Our group setups vary so much that I can't even get sane comparisons ^^ |
| 01:40.39 | ccKep | http://wowwebstats.com/p16x6lqcb4kp3?s=463409-476032 only parse I can find of BT |
| 01:40.57 | ccKep | but far from "dps try", we didnt do such dps-tries |
| 01:41.07 | ccKep | but I'm impressed of SK's teron-dps-tries |
| 01:41.34 | Gnarfoz | I've only ever seen one of those on WWS |
| 01:41.48 | ccKep | 60k raid dps was newest record I think |
| 01:41.55 | ccKep | 62k |
| 01:42.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah I see it |
| 01:42.02 | ccKep | http://wowwebstats.com/1461lql1r2skw?s=6998-7083 there it is |
| 01:42.03 | Gnarfoz | 62k, WTF |
| 01:42.08 | ccKep | poor teron |
| 01:42.10 | ccKep | poor, poor teron |
| 01:42.40 | selckin | 1min30 :) |
| 01:42.41 | Gnarfoz | also, they're doing BT + MH in 5 hours |
| 01:42.45 | Gnarfoz | whaaaat. |
| 01:42.48 | ccKep | imagine doing 2200 dps and then still be #20 in damage |
| 01:42.49 | ArPharazon | teron downed in 1 min! |
| 01:42.56 | ArPharazon | holy cow thats fast |
| 01:43.37 | ccKep | tank doing 1k dps - yeah.. right |
| 01:43.37 | Gnarfoz | we use our 3 days (that's a sum of ~14 hours) to clear MH and BT :< |
| 01:44.00 | Gnarfoz | he's a druid, and that number is so high because the fight time is so short. |
| 01:44.28 | ccKep | yeah he got bloodlust and such |
| 01:44.36 | ccKep | otherwise he couldn't hold aggro, for sure |
| 01:44.39 | selckin | probably quite some dps gear too |
| 01:44.54 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you have a mac right? |
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| 01:46.13 | erikh | is the recorded lady on the blizz account hotline welsh or does she have a significant lisp? |
| 01:46.25 | erikh | either way, considering the wait right now it's fairly amusing. |
| 01:46.46 | erikh | she talks like a pre-teen elmer fudd |
| 01:47.13 | Gnarfoz | hahaha btw |
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| 01:47.33 | Rayd | boo |
| 01:47.35 | Gnarfoz | on that report, they wiped to archimonde. good to see he can still fuck up a raid, even at that gear level |
| 01:47.39 | Rayd | missing karazhan right nwo |
| 01:48.06 | Arrowmaster | we wipe on archimonde =( |
| 01:48.38 | Rayd | for work! |
| 01:48.40 | Rayd | even |
| 01:48.43 | Rayd | it sucks |
| 01:48.53 | Rayd | it looks like we might finish before 9pm and it gets my hopes up |
| 01:48.59 | Rayd | and then we work until 12 or something |
| 01:49.00 | Rayd | boo |
| 01:52.43 | ccKep | # Zoning into an instance on a PvE realm will now drop your PvP flag. <<< haha, really didnt see that until just now |
| 01:52.48 | Gnarfoz | ccKep: that report is fucked up with the old renderer, btw |
| 01:52.54 | ccKep | which record? |
| 01:52.58 | ccKep | *report |
| 01:53.01 | Gnarfoz | one hunter's missing his pet |
| 01:53.06 | Gnarfoz | the teron dps record one |
| 01:53.25 | Gnarfoz | #1 and #2 are both hunters, old renderer shows the second hunter on something like #10 |
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| 01:53.58 | ccKep | nerf FD |
| 01:54.20 | ccKep | I demand 5min cooldown on FD |
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| 01:55.20 | Gnarfoz | don't think they could really use FD all too well, considering you have to actually stay FD'd for 2-3 seconds for the server to wipe your threat |
| 01:55.50 | ccKep | nearly 4k DPS and no skillable threat reduction |
| 01:56.37 | ccKep | that hunter on #1 has illidan bow, haha |
| 01:56.40 | Gnarfoz | yeah, maybe once, then, but then a 5min cd wouldn't have had any effect on that try |
| 01:56.45 | ccKep | wonder what his dps would like with legendary bow |
| 01:56.57 | ccKep | *be like |
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| 01:58.21 | Gnarfoz | boo for several people in that group setup each having several loots off KJ :D |
| 01:58.24 | Gnarfoz | /envy |
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| 02:03.51 | ccKep | anyway, 4 AM here.. going to bed now |
| 02:04.01 | Gnarfoz | here, too |
| 02:04.01 | ccKep | hope servers are running in time without lags and such |
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| 02:17.20 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I have a mac, yes |
| 02:17.33 | Arrowmaster | intel mac? |
| 02:17.43 | ckknight | yep |
| 02:17.48 | Aiiane | so |
| 02:17.51 | Aiiane | Anetheron is bugged out |
| 02:17.55 | Aiiane | doesnt summon infernals |
| 02:18.07 | Arrowmaster | could you test string.format("%d", 2^32+1) in wow? |
| 02:18.35 | Diao | hmm |
| 02:18.36 | Diao | ckknight |
| 02:18.42 | Diao | cart3 is randomly crashing my wow |
| 02:18.43 | breser | Arrowmaster: "-2147483648" |
| 02:18.50 | Diao | it only happens every so often RIGHT as i open the world map with m |
| 02:18.52 | breser | Arrowmaster: Intel Mac in game. |
| 02:18.55 | ckknight | Diao: odd... |
| 02:19.05 | Arrowmaster | ok thats what i expected |
| 02:19.06 | ckknight | Diao: what system you have? |
| 02:19.13 | Diao | athlon x2 4400+ |
| 02:19.22 | ckknight | Windows ___? |
| 02:19.30 | ckknight | and 32 or 64 bit? |
| 02:19.43 | Diao | 64 |
| 02:19.46 | Diao | windows xp |
| 02:20.00 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:20.23 | Diao | it's happened 3 times in the past 2 hours |
| 02:20.26 | ckknight | any useful info in the crash log? |
| 02:20.27 | Diao | not sure what exactly is causing it |
| 02:21.02 | Diao | says fatal exception 132 |
| 02:21.08 | Diao | Program:C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 02:21.09 | Diao | Exception:0xC0000005 (ACCESS_VIOLATION) at 001B:005996A9 |
| 02:21.09 | Diao | The instruction at "0x005996A9" referenced memory at "0x62000049". |
| 02:21.09 | Diao | The memory could not be "written". |
| 02:21.24 | Diao | i can upload the entire txt if you need |
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| 02:23.17 | Diao | i'm running like 200 other addons, but it only started happening after i updated cart3 to 0.7.2 |
| 02:25.51 | Tenchworks | by any chance, where you in a BG when it crashed? I used to get that same error, but only in BG's |
| 02:26.50 | erikh | heh, sounds like you ran out of ram |
| 02:27.52 | Tenchworks | yeah on that note, I was able to trace the probelm back to a bad ram stick, but never did understand why it occured only in BG's and not during raids where i have more mods running |
| 02:28.02 | ckknight | Diao: that is definitely odd |
| 02:28.10 | Diao | not in a bg |
| 02:28.10 | ckknight | Diao: there is one easy way to figure out the issue |
| 02:28.17 | Diao | i'm in desolace on an alt atm |
| 02:28.21 | ckknight | Diao: what is the previious version you ran? |
| 02:28.31 | Diao | 0.7.1.12 i think |
| 02:28.34 | ckknight | actually, no, that won't work |
| 02:28.49 | ckknight | seeing as it could be related to the patch itself |
| 02:28.51 | Diao | i highly doubt i ran out of ram.. 4gb on my system :P |
| 02:28.53 | ckknight | blast |
| 02:29.04 | Tenchworks | lol |
| 02:35.51 | durcyn | ~wowalert |
| 02:35.52 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
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| 02:54.40 | khangg | anyone else have trouble hiding their TimeManagerClockButton with an addon? |
| 02:55.27 | ulic | I have Chinchilla running and I don't see it. |
| 02:56.25 | Groktar | wow, so somehow brutallus reset |
| 02:56.33 | Groktar | and i had burn |
| 02:56.45 | Groktar | and i was spamming gheal on myself while a resto druid /danced with me |
| 02:56.46 | Groktar | splat |
| 02:57.49 | Groktar | pretty it's not possible to heal myself through it without a crapton of haste |
| 02:58.31 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78527 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: Update zhCN locale |
| 02:59.03 | khangg | i'm using nMinimap, if I put TiimeManagerClockButton:Hide() in an addon, I get some error, so I gotta run a /script in game :S |
| 03:00.17 | ulic | perhaps the addon is calling it before the frame is created. |
| 03:00.22 | ulic | just a guess though. |
| 03:00.34 | khangg | that's what i'm thinking |
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| 03:14.28 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78528 10AtlasLoot_WorldLoot/ (6 files): AtlasLoot_WorldLoot: Locales update |
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| 03:41.31 | pakoz9 | whats the name of the mod that gives you a stat breakdown of items and compared them to your current? |
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| 03:42.44 | ulic | ratingbuster does that |
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| 03:43.57 | Aeyan | and Pawn |
| 03:44.06 | pakoz9 | thanks |
| 03:44.15 | pakoz9 | which is better :O? |
| 03:45.11 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: sorry for the delay, that was 5.1.3 on macosx via fink |
| 03:45.28 | ulic | I've never used Pawn, can't comment. |
| 03:49.18 | kaiden | lol there's nothing quite like Neil Patrick Harris and Nathan Fillion playing in a singing mini show :) |
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| 03:50.36 | ulic | dang, I still can't connect to download it. |
| 03:50.49 | ulic | well I couldn't 2 hours ago, should try again. |
| 03:51.50 | kaiden | the show? or something else? :P |
| 03:52.01 | ulic | yea the show |
| 03:52.19 | kaiden | i made the mistake of buying it on itunes before realizing you could watch it at the website for free :/ |
| 03:52.34 | ulic | oh hehe |
| 03:52.42 | ulic | $4 for all the eps isn't bad |
| 03:52.50 | kaiden | yeah but there's only 3 eps' :P |
| 03:52.58 | ulic | heck, I should pay for it just support the amazing mind of Joss Whedon. |
| 03:53.12 | kaiden | that's the main reason i did |
| 03:53.21 | kaiden | still wish he'd put firefly back on the air |
| 03:53.23 | ulic | that guys doesn't get enough credit. |
| 03:53.25 | ulic | -s |
| 03:53.41 | ulic | I doubt it's his call, he's gotta find someone to pay for it. |
| 03:53.58 | kaiden | he gets plenty :) everyone knows him to be the demigod of the fantasty tv world |
| 03:54.08 | kaiden | yeah it was his call |
| 03:54.14 | ulic | Showtime or HBO should pick it, do the reverse of Stargate. |
| 03:54.18 | kaiden | after serenity went gold and made as much money as it did |
| 03:54.26 | kaiden | he did dollhouse instead |
| 03:54.46 | ulic | that starts in the fall on FOX or something right? |
| 03:54.52 | kaiden | yeah |
| 03:55.02 | kaiden | sorry no |
| 03:55.06 | kaiden | mid season 2009 |
| 03:55.15 | kaiden | so january 2009 |
| 03:55.19 | ulic | looks interesting, but not sure if it's different enough. We'll see. |
| 03:55.27 | kenlyric | serenity didn't make very much money |
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| 03:56.48 | kenlyric | it wasn't a flop, but it didn't do well enough that they wanted to fund another one. |
| 03:57.05 | kaiden | not talking about another movie being funded |
| 03:57.10 | kaiden | talking the series being reopened |
| 03:57.46 | ulic | it's been gone so long I doubt any network would try to bring it back. |
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| 03:57.57 | kaiden | righto |
| 03:58.00 | kenlyric | problem is that actors get other jobs, and trying to get a failed tv show started back up is next to impossible |
| 03:58.09 | kenlyric | it's only every happened to animated shows, which have no sets |
| 03:58.13 | kaiden | i was really disappointed by the 2 stargate movies, which kinda also signed the death of that great show |
| 03:58.52 | kaiden | lots of good shows die before their time sadly :( |
| 03:59.08 | kenlyric | low budget movies tend to piss viewers off. If you want low budget you'd just watch the tv show |
| 03:59.27 | kenlyric | thankfully JMS finally caught on |
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| 04:06.01 | NivFreak | Aiiane: lol, so even more ezmode? |
| 04:06.17 | Aiiane | pretty much |
| 04:06.23 | NivFreak | confirmed first hand? |
| 04:06.31 | Aiiane | Just finished our hyjal run for tonight |
| 04:06.34 | Aiiane | fastest aneth kill ever |
| 04:06.39 | NivFreak | I'd imagine |
| 04:07.09 | NivFreak | it seems like no matter how many times we kill him, someone always drops an infernal on a priest |
| 04:07.14 | Aiiane | heh |
| 04:07.56 | Aiiane | we have a prot pally with a /tar tower, /cast exorcism macro, which helps |
| 04:08.06 | Aiiane | at least it doesnt stick around long |
| 04:08.15 | NivFreak | yea, we have no probs picking it up with our pally |
| 04:08.23 | Aiiane | but yeah |
| 04:08.26 | Aiiane | stupidity check |
| 04:08.27 | NivFreak | just the initial impact sometimes goes badly ;0 |
| 04:08.40 | NivFreak | once in a while I get a visit from an infernal while MTing |
| 04:08.44 | NivFreak | and start laughing at people |
| 04:08.56 | NivFreak | I've actually had one cast on me before while MTing |
| 04:09.04 | NivFreak | not sure if someone jumped my threat or what |
| 04:10.38 | Aiiane | pretty sure MT can be infernal'd normally |
| 04:10.44 | Aiiane | We've had ours get infernal'd before |
| 04:10.48 | Aiiane | noone near him on threat |
| 04:10.56 | NivFreak | I didn't think anyone was |
| 04:11.00 | NivFreak | but I wasn't sure |
| 04:11.06 | NivFreak | and you can only trust omen so far |
| 04:11.11 | Aiiane | aye |
| 04:11.12 | NivFreak | :) |
| 04:11.30 | NivFreak | I liked my druid OT that was registering 160% threat and not pulling |
| 04:11.35 | NivFreak | on a couple fights |
| 04:13.34 | Aiiane | heh |
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| 04:21.56 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903748242&sid=1 |
| 04:22.01 | Arrowmaster | find the common trait |
| 04:22.48 | kenlyric | forums.worldofwarcraft |
| 04:22.51 | kenlyric | no need to look further |
| 04:23.01 | Arrowmaster | no seriously |
| 04:23.03 | Tenchworks | hehe I already saw this on the other channel |
| 04:23.04 | Aiiane | pfft |
| 04:23.09 | Cryect | hehe |
| 04:23.31 | kenlyric | I am serious |
| 04:25.19 | Tenchworks | i'll give ya a hint, blizz may get sued for discrimination (I know i spelled that wrong...) if they don't fix it |
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| 04:27.30 | Killmore | anyone know the new HP of m'uru/entropius ?!? |
| 04:27.47 | kenlyric | oh please |
| 04:27.47 | aestil | sorry, i asked earlier, but missed the answer. why does BT4 require a /rl if i move an ability on my action bar? |
| 04:27.54 | kenlyric | females do LESS DAMAGE in Age of Conan |
| 04:28.00 | kenlyric | this is just a graphical bug |
| 04:28.31 | digmouse | killmore: I heard all muru and its trash reduced by 30% |
| 04:28.34 | Arrowmaster | aestil: it shouldnt |
| 04:28.55 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: nobody cares about AoC though |
| 04:29.05 | aestil | Arrowmaster: when i do the bombing run quests in SWP i have to reload when i put the respective bombs on my action bar. |
| 04:29.18 | Tenchworks | AoC is a beta you pay to play |
| 04:29.20 | aestil | oh wait. |
| 04:29.34 | aestil | nevcairiel made a commit today that sounds like it might have fixed it. |
| 04:29.35 | kenlyric | Tenchworks: like WoW? |
| 04:29.44 | aestil | fix a bug with action buttons not updating properly with autoassist active |
| 04:29.44 | kenlyric | every patch a beta! |
| 04:30.51 | Tenchworks | at least they do PTRs so you don't get serious bugs on live realms |
| 04:30.51 | aestil | will right click on omen -> open options ever be? |
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| 04:47.19 | digmouse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:54.11 | kenlyric | Tenchworks: lol |
| 04:57.54 | CIA-45 | teknicolor: 03Tekkub 07master * r0e8c1e8 10/: Fix patch 2.4.3 breaking friend list coloring |
| 04:58.19 | digmouse | would there be a patch to fix this? |
| 05:00.36 | Arrowmaster | the stairs issue? |
| 05:00.41 | digmouse | mhe |
| 05:00.43 | digmouse | meh |
| 05:00.48 | Arrowmaster | since collision is client side yes |
| 05:01.05 | digmouse | would they just let the ladies jump to WLK? |
| 05:01.06 | Shadowed | Did someone figure out how to disable that stupid spark on your debuff/buff durations on targets? |
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| 05:16.14 | digmouse | I guess tall ladies wont be stuck |
| 05:19.21 | CIA-45 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r6b8d122 10/: God damn OnTooltipSetItem calls with nil items... |
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| 06:02.25 | Lukian | yay! :D |
| 06:02.43 | Arrowmaster | boo |
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| 06:02.54 | Lukian | tickles Arrowmaster |
| 06:04.25 | Arrowmaster | heh odd fix |
| 06:04.35 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was something else causing it |
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| 06:16.21 | VonhintenHOME` | This patch break anything in addons? |
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| 06:22.18 | Zyndrome | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=4927184602&sid=1 , a guildmate was in that AV ... no NPCs, no reinforcements, and permanent preparation-buff |
| 06:22.56 | Zyndrome | took A LOT of burst damage to kill just one player :P |
| 06:22.57 | charon | VonhintenHOME`: judging by the forum whines, it must be doomsday already... rumours are QuestHelper(?) is broken, but that's like 8 hours ago so who knows |
| 06:23.48 | Drundia | A friend once didn't have POM properly consumed. |
| 06:24.12 | Drundia | He was running around shooting instant Frostbolts. |
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| 07:21.28 | Guest45238 | "An unexpected error occured. Please make sure you are connected to the internet and restart the application. Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an indication that other memory is corrupt." I get this error with the latest (1.9.46.746) WAU...is that normal? is there still a problem with the build? or is my comp messed up? ;P |
| 07:22.20 | ramoz | JWowUpdater |
| 07:22.34 | ramoz | If you google that, you will find your answer. |
| 07:22.53 | Guest45238 | That was pretty straight forward. Thanks a lot. ;) |
| 07:25.50 | Elkano | I'm running that build without a problem and I think many others do so, too. So it really could be a problem at your end |
| 07:26.13 | Guest45238 | That helps, too. ty <3 |
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| 07:33.35 | Shadowed | Did Blizzard break dispel alerts? |
| 07:33.44 | Shadowed | the events don't seem to be firing when you dispel something period |
| 07:33.50 | Shadowed | instead of sort of firing |
| 07:34.18 | Guest45238 | Sorry to be in-and-out.........but I cant stand to AFK all day in IRC like everyone else does........so thanks a ton for the advice/answers... and peace out ;P |
| 07:36.27 | ArPharazon | hello - can anyone tell me where Omen gets its version info from? |
| 07:37.28 | ArPharazon | i have the latest from files.wowace.com/omen (r75456.9) - but ingame its telling me that r78412 is "new" ... |
| 07:38.59 | MoonWork | it gets it from other omens. |
| 07:39.13 | profalbert | the version is stored in Omen.MINOR_VERSION |
| 07:40.16 | profalbert | 78412 is the Thread-2.0 versoin |
| 07:40.41 | profalbert | so actually you need to get http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen-r75456.10.zip |
| 07:41.10 | Arrowmaster | or just get http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip |
| 07:41.12 | profalbert | the easiest way is getting http://files.wowace.com/Omen/Omen.zip which always points to the most recent version |
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| 07:59.17 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: ping |
| 08:00.16 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: I think someone vandalized your wiki |
| 08:01.02 | NivFreak | for SKG |
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| 08:17.07 | NeoTron | omg hate wiping all night to brutallus |
| 08:17.39 | Fisker- | wuss |
| 08:17.42 | Zyndrome | sounds familiar :P |
| 08:17.43 | NeoTron | goood news is I saved on car insurance |
| 08:17.45 | NeoTron | I mean |
| 08:17.52 | NeoTron | ... |
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| 08:18.12 | Fisker- | GIEV REALMS BACK |
| 08:18.13 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 08:18.18 | Zyndrome | DITTO |
| 08:20.07 | NeoTron | good news is I did 2788 DPS (WWS) / 2840 dps (recount) |
| 08:20.09 | NeoTron | on the kill |
| 08:20.25 | NeoTron | thanks to my friend CoD |
| 08:20.30 | NeoTron | although it was resisted once :( |
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| 08:24.41 | ArPharazon | any idea why recount & wws dont show same dps ? |
| 08:26.43 | breser | Recount syncs with anyone running so any damage done by someone else running it will show up. |
| 08:26.54 | breser | WWS only gets data from the logs that are merged. |
| 08:27.31 | nevcairiel | You dont really need merging anymore with the new combatlog |
| 08:27.42 | durcyn | for stupid kalecgos you do |
| 08:27.48 | charon | except in pathological cases like .. damn, durcyn wins |
| 08:28.12 | durcyn | except wws fails at time zones in merges |
| 08:28.21 | breser | True, most fights it shouldn't matter. But I wasn't suggesting that they should always be different, just giving reasons why it would be. |
| 08:28.35 | breser | I thought that was fixed? |
| 08:29.32 | ArPharazon | surely its not necessary to merge logs for wws ? |
| 08:29.54 | ArPharazon | the combat log is already logging everyone - right? |
| 08:30.04 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 08:30.52 | breser | What fight are you seeing differences on? |
| 08:30.52 | nevcairiel | differences in DPS calculations are usually a result of different assumptions based on fight start/stop etc |
| 08:31.03 | nevcairiel | would be interesting to see overall dmg compared from WWS and Recount |
| 08:31.42 | profalbert | I've heard recount doesn't count damage done by totems |
| 08:31.48 | ArPharazon | i've noticed that dmg + dps in recount is always higher than wws |
| 08:32.34 | nevcairiel | tbh i consider wws more accurate, recount dev has been stalling |
| 08:33.06 | breser | I've pretty much come to the conclusion that something is very wrong with recounts healing numbers. |
| 08:33.58 | nevcairiel | recount trys to calculate lifebloom/PoM/Earthshield |
| 08:34.01 | nevcairiel | and fails miserably |
| 08:34.22 | breser | *nod* |
| 08:35.11 | ArPharazon | breser - i am seeing differences on every single fight |
| 08:35.25 | ArPharazon | recount is always much higher than wws |
| 08:35.44 | NeoTron | they calculate it a bit differently |
| 08:35.59 | breser | Difference in damage done or dps numbers? |
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| 08:36.15 | breser | Becuase I think recount's (h|d)ps numbers are just bogus. |
| 08:36.19 | NeoTron | http://wowwebstats.com/nqsfj516ymwuy?s=14768-15113 |
| 08:36.29 | breser | They try to calculate time spent actively doing stuff. |
| 08:36.31 | NeoTron | dps numbers |
| 08:36.40 | NeoTron | wws also does |
| 08:36.41 | breser | But they assume that dot classes are doing something everytime the dot ticks. |
| 08:36.56 | pakoz9 | Anyone have a recommendation on a wowequip like mod? (you can also recommend wowequip) |
| 08:37.06 | NeoTron | my actual dps throughout the fight was more like 2640 |
| 08:37.14 | NeoTron | lower due to (solely) life tapping |
| 08:37.16 | nevcairiel | whats wrong with wowequip if you ask for alternatives ? :P |
| 08:37.24 | Orionshock | pakoz9: try EquipCompare w/ RaitingBuster |
| 08:37.26 | NeoTron | so basically lifetap cost me 140 dps |
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| 08:38.12 | pakoz9 | orion, is that in wau as EQCompare? |
| 08:38.13 | charon | so wait... lifetap is not part of your overall combat cycle and ability to dps, hence shouldn't count, yet you still use it in such a critical fight? :p |
| 08:38.46 | charon | i think i'll start compensating dps numbers for the time i wait for energy ticks |
| 08:39.13 | nevcairiel | you can minimize lifetap with a proper support group |
| 08:39.21 | nevcairiel | i want to see that for energy! :P |
| 08:39.39 | charon | i bet i could powershift a lot more with an spriest! |
| 08:40.18 | Orionshock | pakoz9: more like teKompare |
| 08:40.31 | charon | (and maybe have enough mana left to shift to bear when the tank finally dies after all healers went oom!) |
| 08:40.33 | nevcairiel | charon: you dont get the spriest mana regen while being a kitty :D |
| 08:40.43 | breser | I think that trying to calculate time actually spent doing stuff for per second numbers makes the numbers fairly useless. |
| 08:41.05 | charon | nevcairiel: damn. so much for my evil plans |
| 08:41.16 | breser | More useful numbers would be total damage done / time player alive for fight. |
| 08:42.20 | Diao | clearly |
| 08:42.23 | Diao | they tick right as he shifts out |
| 08:42.27 | Diao | so he gets the mana return |
| 08:42.34 | Diao | every single time :) |
| 08:42.44 | Orionshock | where is Tekkub's git repo, there a quick link to it somewhere? |
| 08:42.54 | Diao | git.tekkub.net i think |
| 08:43.19 | Industrial | github.com/tekkub |
| 08:43.21 | charon | Diao: heh. i wouldn't know to be honest, have you tested this? :) |
| 08:44.43 | Diao | well theoretically it'd work |
| 08:44.47 | Diao | but you'd have to be pro at timing |
| 08:44.50 | Diao | lol |
| 08:47.44 | [Ammo] | Arrowmaster: about your odd fix comment on fishingace, it was broken pre-2.4.3, he grabbed the FishermansFriend fix as he should have done ages ago :) |
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| 08:48.05 | SunTsu | Diao: With powershifting the shift most of the time is not visible and it normally is too fast to get hit when doing it, so I really don't think you'd get mana regen by a SP in that short time |
| 08:49.14 | charon | hmm, i just grepped around and it seems the evens are in a weird order anyway |
| 08:49.40 | charon | my unshift-pot-HS-bear macro got the events in the order pot-HS-unshift-bear |
| 08:49.46 | Zyndrome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAo7kRDrUmU |
| 08:49.49 | Zyndrome | POOL'S CLOSED |
| 08:50.06 | charon | spending about 110ms outside bear according to that log |
| 08:50.13 | breser | charon: Events in the combat log do not necessarily reflect the order in which they occur on the server. |
| 08:51.37 | charon | shrugs |
| 08:51.41 | nevcairiel | the 110ms is probably your ping or so |
| 08:52.12 | charon | yeah well turns out i wasn't looking far enough anyway, it's 110ms from aura cancel to cast success, but more until the server sent back the aura gain |
| 08:52.44 | breser | Doesn't matter when the client sees the aura but rather when the server sees the aura gain. |
| 08:52.46 | nevcairiel | probably ping-time once for ever command you send, unshift, pot, HS, shift |
| 08:53.14 | charon | http://pastebin.ca/1073147 |
| 08:53.20 | breser | Take the time it sees you casting the aura and add half your ping time. |
| 08:53.22 | charon | from the client's POV, 430ms outside bear |
| 08:53.23 | phyber | Zyndrome: haha, awesome. |
| 08:53.38 | charon | but yeah, probably the client cancels the aura on its own but registers the gain only when the server sends it |
| 08:53.51 | nevcairiel | aura_removed/applied events are always a bit slower |
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| 08:56.58 | digmouse | What would be the reason for US restart? |
| 08:57.20 | breser | Doesn't really matter how long you're out. If you get hit when you're out as far as the server is concerned you're hosed. |
| 08:57.27 | breser | US Restart? |
| 08:57.45 | digmouse | just seen, all realms rolling restart |
| 08:57.57 | breser | I'd guess to fix stupid bugs with the patch. |
| 08:57.58 | digmouse | 5:00 AM PDT |
| 08:58.07 | breser | I know on our BG the arenas were wigging out. |
| 08:58.14 | digmouse | but stairs cant be fixed by that though |
| 08:58.25 | Industrial | wheres the eu servers >:@ |
| 08:58.27 | Industrial | 11AM gogogo |
| 08:58.29 | breser | stairs? |
| 08:58.42 | breser | Thought EU servers where in France but I could be wrong. |
| 08:58.56 | digmouse | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903748242&sid=1 |
| 08:59.03 | Industrial | im in the same timezone so yes 2 mins to go |
| 08:59.08 | charon | breser: well that doesn't make sense. it most certainly _is_ important how long i'm out _in the server's eyes_ because that more or less determines the probability that i'll get hit in that time |
| 09:00.33 | breser | Well true, the longer you are out the more likely it is. But ultimately, if you're out and get hit it doesn't matter if you were only out 100ms or 400ms. That was my point. |
| 09:01.04 | breser | And given that largely how long you are out is dependent upon your latency. |
| 09:01.06 | charon | true, in that case you're dead :) |
| 09:01.17 | breser | Which isn't a static amount. |
| 09:01.34 | breser | The macro is useful but personally I only use that stuff if I think I'm probably already screwed anyway. |
| 09:02.04 | breser | Though I don't tank much anymore. |
| 09:03.03 | charon | well, if you use it before you'd actually be screwed if you didn't, that's just a waste of a panic button cooldown |
| 09:03.53 | charon | (and a perfectly good healing potion!) |
| 09:03.59 | charon | what bothers me more is that i have to stop doing anything except maul if i think things will get tough, which drops my threat to uh... about that of a warrior? :> |
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| 09:06.00 | breser | Ohh no a warriors threat. :P Sorry can't help but laugh at you. |
| 09:06.52 | theoddone33 | we've got a fairly new 70 warrior tank |
| 09:06.57 | theoddone33 | and he solo tanks kara |
| 09:07.07 | theoddone33 | this isn't really relevant but I think it's cool |
| 09:07.18 | nevcairiel | i've solo tanked kara too, its not too bad |
| 09:07.24 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 09:07.29 | theoddone33 | we were all worried about opera |
| 09:07.40 | theoddone33 | "hopefully we don't get romeo and juliet" but we did and it went fine |
| 09:07.49 | theoddone33 | they only thing we can't do is netherspite |
| 09:07.58 | nevcairiel | true, that needs a second one |
| 09:08.20 | theoddone33 | I think a moonkin can do it though |
| 09:08.26 | theoddone33 | or holy pally |
| 09:08.35 | nevcairiel | any druid can probably |
| 09:08.36 | nevcairiel | in bear |
| 09:08.42 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 09:09.04 | breser | Rogue, Any pally, even a hunter. |
| 09:09.05 | nevcairiel | oh realms are coming back |
| 09:09.06 | nevcairiel | finally |
| 09:09.09 | theoddone33 | our kara raids end up being ... 5 rogues |
| 09:09.25 | nevcairiel | i still want to do a 10 druid kara run |
| 09:09.26 | theoddone33 | last time I think there was some evasion tanking done |
| 09:09.32 | theoddone33 | I'd like to do 10 paladin |
| 09:09.37 | theoddone33 | 10 druid would be good too |
| 09:10.00 | charon | wasn't there a video of 10 paladin kara? |
| 09:10.06 | theoddone33 | probably |
| 09:10.54 | nevcairiel | i know a guy that did a 10 druid before, they skipped like nearly all trash in stealth |
| 09:10.56 | nevcairiel | so win :P |
| 09:11.57 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:11.58 | Zyndrome | eeeeek, EU-realms coming up |
| 09:12.09 | Industrial | not grim batol yet :( |
| 09:12.17 | Industrial | taps his foot |
| 09:12.22 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 09:12.22 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 09:12.28 | nevcairiel | some groups have extended maint |
| 09:12.43 | nevcairiel | damnit mine too |
| 09:12.53 | Industrial | asjk;flasdf misery |
| 09:12.53 | Industrial | ok |
| 09:13.35 | theoddone33 | mine seems fine! |
| 09:14.13 | nevcairiel | extended maint for --> english: Blackout, Cyclone, Nightfall, Misery -- german: Todbringer |
| 09:14.40 | Industrial | I should sleep some more ;P |
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| 09:16.18 | Zyndrome | awesome, server up |
| 09:16.21 | Zyndrome | logs in |
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| 09:16.38 | Zyndrome | can't wait to see my pally get interrupted all the time now with the libram swapping |
| 09:17.04 | Industrial | interrupted? |
| 09:17.20 | Zyndrome | yes |
| 09:17.33 | Zyndrome | changing relics while casting = interrupt |
| 09:17.39 | Zyndrome | retarded change |
| 09:17.39 | Industrial | asdf |
| 09:17.50 | Industrial | well there go my shammy macros |
| 09:17.51 | Industrial | :P |
| 09:19.20 | nevcairiel | imho its understandable |
| 09:19.32 | nevcairiel | was stupid that you could avoid the GCD when you changed it during cast |
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| 09:24.59 | theoddone33 | it's kind of a fix |
| 09:25.14 | theoddone33 | but I'm only saying that because I never used it |
| 09:25.14 | NeoTron | charon: point is lifetap affects dps a lot |
| 09:25.29 | NeoTron | I ran out of mana pots because I forgot to bring osme of the 140 I made the day before |
| 09:26.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:26.17 | charon | applauds |
| 09:26.59 | theoddone33 | 2v2 makes me emo |
| 09:27.14 | NeoTron | mainly it was a random comment bc people like to say (locks too surprisingly) that locks have no mana issues and can just lifetap |
| 09:27.28 | nevcairiel | well they do |
| 09:27.30 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 09:27.31 | charon | you claimed your "actual dps" was higher, but since you needed lifetap to achieve those "false dps" that were somehow "lower" than they should be, i just jumped that opportunity to get sarcastic at you. sorry. |
| 09:27.33 | theoddone33 | I was on a team with 2 rogues and they invited another priest who is in our clique... he was like 20-4 last week and I was like 2-8 |
| 09:27.39 | Gibbonz|Work | hmm with 2.4.3 I guess ClockFu isn't really needed anymore :) |
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| 09:27.52 | NeoTron | 140 dps loss in a fight where I had a SP, ele shammy and JoW up is quite significant |
| 09:28.04 | charon | in my view, the actual DPS are those including life tap, and your _theoretical_ dps might have been higher, had you not forgotten those potions. |
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| 09:28.33 | NeoTron | don't get me wrong..I haven't done that much dps there before and I was clearly at the top of damage dealt |
| 09:28.57 | NeoTron | ah I had a hunter too |
| 09:29.09 | NeoTron | oh wait |
| 09:29.14 | NeoTron | I dind't have a shadow priest in the kill |
| 09:29.21 | NeoTron | he went offline and couldn't log back on |
| 09:29.30 | Gibbonz|Work | though anyone know if Squeenix is happy with the change? |
| 09:30.45 | NeoTron | had a hunter instead of a SP for the kill |
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| 09:31.32 | charon | i guess this is the point where we engage in a semantics flamewar over the use of "actual" |
| 09:33.09 | theoddone33 | mage paladin is a bad 2v2 |
| 09:33.27 | NeoTron | wws reports dps for dps time |
| 09:33.47 | NeoTron | which in my case was 98%. I know actual dps on a fight like brutallus is dmg/duration |
| 09:34.42 | NeoTron | bedtime. ttfn |
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| 09:37.00 | charon_ | curses his net setup |
| 09:37.45 | charon | NeoTron: i'm afraid i got somewhat sidetracked here, and may have missed your rebuttal(s) ;) |
| 09:39.48 | theoddone33 | he went to sleep |
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| 09:46.20 | theoddone33 | I just got beat 1v1 by a rogue in pretty poor pve gear :( |
| 09:46.57 | theoddone33 | I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to be this vulnerable as a 450 res disc priest |
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| 09:47.02 | CIA-45 | 03jerry * r78530 10Talented_Data/Talented_Data.toc: Talented_Data: update to 2.4.3 |
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| 09:50.13 | SunTsu | Damn, I hate patchday |
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| 09:52.29 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78531 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua SpellReminder.toc locale-zhCN.lua): |
| 09:52.29 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 09:52.29 | CIA-45 | - NEW: Chinese Locale (Thanks wowui.cn!) |
| 09:53.25 | theoddone33 | aha |
| 09:53.34 | theoddone33 | I was wondering why this warrior was doing almost no damage in arena |
| 09:53.40 | theoddone33 | he was using corrupted ashbringer... |
| 09:53.58 | theoddone33 | and full t3 |
| 09:54.13 | theoddone33 | prot tier 3 |
| 09:54.14 | theoddone33 | wow :( |
| 09:55.47 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:57.11 | Funkeh` | fuck |
| 09:57.16 | Funkeh` | my battlegroup is offline until 3 |
| 09:57.31 | theoddone33 | lucky for you that's only 3 minutes :P |
| 09:57.35 | theoddone33 | timezones are HILARIOUS |
| 09:58.04 | Funkeh` | omg my priests and hunters battlegroups are ofline too |
| 09:58.08 | Funkeh` | what are the chances |
| 09:58.12 | Funkeh` | no characters |
| 09:58.13 | Ellipsis | what algorithm does blizz use to sign their secure addons? |
| 09:58.58 | Funkeh` | oh it's 1 not 3, few |
| 09:59.56 | cnc|work | Ellipsis: I'd guess they'd sign it with a keypair |
| 10:01.14 | Ellipsis | yes, but I'm trying to convince someone that said signature is reasonably uncrackable |
| 10:01.28 | Ellipsis | and I have no real evidence other than "I'm pretty sure they're using something fairly secure" :/ |
| 10:01.41 | Funkeh` | russian servers are live? |
| 10:01.42 | cnc|work | noone ever bothered to check what they used afaik |
| 10:02.11 | Funkeh` | and there must be something fk'd with my font because rusian always appears as ?? |
| 10:04.06 | cnc|work | Ellipsis: can you mail me one of the blizz addon files ? |
| 10:04.09 | cnc|work | I'll try to check |
| 10:04.49 | Elkano | Ackis: ping? |
| 10:08.25 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude 07RC1 * r78532 10Ace3/AceDBOptions-3.0/AceDBOptions-3.0.lua: Ace3 - AceDBOptions-3.0: Add ruRU by StingerSoft |
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| 10:11.33 | KriLL3 | anyone else got problems with MrPlow? it ignores my [Reinforced Mining Bag] and moves all my bars and ores out of it into the normal bags :( |
| 10:11.41 | Zyndrome | " 11:39.51 ( CIA-45 ) jerry * r78530 Talented_Data/Talented_Data.toc: Talented_Data: update to 2.4.3" |
| 10:11.46 | Zyndrome | good, got worried there :P |
| 10:11.56 | Zyndrome | 20% on 5/5 improved hunters mark, kek |
| 10:12.02 | Ellipsis | cnc|work: a good one to play with is http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5476-MovePad.html since you have everything included |
| 10:12.31 | cnc|work | that ain't a blizz addon is it ? :o |
| 10:13.24 | Matrix110 | Author: |
| 10:13.25 | Matrix110 | |
| 10:13.25 | Matrix110 | Slouken [more] |
| 10:14.05 | Ellipsis | cnc|work: it's not a "blizz" addon, but it's signed by slouken |
| 10:14.18 | Ellipsis | it contains the .pub and .sig files |
| 10:14.37 | thul | *drool* http://poderresponsabilidad.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/megan-fox-7.jpg |
| 10:15.00 | Ellipsis | thul: ! |
| 10:15.01 | Ellipsis | do want |
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| 10:16.26 | thul | Ellipsis: me and you AND her? :-P |
| 10:16.38 | Ellipsis | that works |
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| 10:17.07 | thul | hmm |
| 10:17.17 | thul | this was so weird, this chick i had a thing with in like.. 2003 just called. |
| 10:17.32 | thul | "hey, I just moved to <insert the city where i live>, how are you doing?" |
| 10:17.59 | thul | http://www.maxitmag.com/images/stories/eric/CelebrityWatch/megan_fox_gq_02.jpg <- seriously |
| 10:18.41 | cnc|work | Ellipsis: for the record, why did slouken sign it ? |
| 10:18.51 | profalbert | thul: you had a thing with megan fox? |
| 10:18.59 | KriLL3 | Wishlist seems to have imploded, most of my listed items have vanished from the list and most of S3 and almost none of the S4 items are left in the add portion... :< |
| 10:20.23 | thul | profalbert: haha, I wish :-P |
| 10:20.46 | thul | this was a goth/emo/blondie with a tendency for violent sex :-( I'm too old for that :-P not the violent sex, but the emo tendencies :-P |
| 10:21.49 | nevcairiel | cnc|work: because he wrote it? :) |
| 10:22.10 | cnc|work | well, I still wouldn't bother signing my addons if they didn't need it if I was him :p |
| 10:22.15 | nevcairiel | also probably needs the sign to be able to execute secure command |
| 10:22.23 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 10:22.37 | cnc|work | that addon uses secure commands I guess then :) |
| 10:22.41 | cnc|work | Ellipsis: the signing is in binary, so can't do much with it at work |
| 10:22.43 | Ellipsis | cnc|work: it is secure code |
| 10:22.51 | Ellipsis | it creates buttons which are mapped to movement functions |
| 10:23.29 | cnc|work | cldnt he do that directly with the templates instead of using secure code ? |
| 10:23.32 | Ellipsis | no |
| 10:23.35 | Ellipsis | movement functions |
| 10:23.37 | nevcairiel | not movement |
| 10:23.40 | Ellipsis | like run forward, etc. |
| 10:23.43 | cnc|work | aah yea |
| 10:24.02 | cnc|work | Ellipsis: the signing is in binary |
| 10:24.05 | cnc|work | but from the format if the files |
| 10:24.14 | cnc|work | it is really most likely a signing with a public/private keypair |
| 10:24.22 | Ellipsis | I know that |
| 10:24.25 | cnc|work | as the addon even has a .pub file which is usualy used for public keys |
| 10:24.29 | Ellipsis | I just want to know what algorithm is used |
| 10:24.35 | cnc|work | rsa2 ? |
| 10:24.45 | cnc|work | anyway, i'm gonna eat |
| 10:25.33 | Elkano | how did Blizzard manage to break the whole realm pool my chars ar on? :/ |
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| 10:25.49 | Matrix110 | installing patches is tricky :P |
| 10:26.26 | nevcairiel | Elkano: because you play with all chars on one pool .. your own fault?:P (Also, you're on todbringer as well? or a english pool?) |
| 10:27.29 | Funkeh` | I play in 3 different battlegroups |
| 10:27.32 | Funkeh` | all of which are down |
| 10:27.34 | Funkeh` | ^^ |
| 10:27.36 | Elkano | german... Blutdurst |
| 10:27.46 | nevcairiel | i thought only todbringer was down |
| 10:28.03 | nevcairiel | http://status.wow-europe.com/de/alert |
| 10:28.07 | nevcairiel | according to that anyway |
| 10:28.09 | thul | The Neo FreeRunner is a Linux-based touch screen smart phone aimed at general consumer use as well as Linux desktop users and software developers. |
| 10:28.19 | Funkeh` | english bgs |
| 10:30.44 | Funkeh` | so after some searching I'm back to utorrent |
| 10:31.07 | Funkeh` | something possesed me to even think about tying vuze but after eset telling me it cleaned adware at instal I passed |
| 10:31.45 | Funkeh` | everything else I find was last updated in 2005 |
| 10:32.11 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78533 10AtlasLoot/Documentation/Release Notes.txt: AtlasLoot: updated Release Notes |
| 10:32.53 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78534 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 10:32.53 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 10:32.53 | CIA-45 | - revamp of TCG and Tabards section |
| 10:33.33 | Fisker- | goes on a rampage |
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| 10:42.13 | Lukian | Aiiane, no infernos? |
| 10:42.13 | Lukian | or was that pre 2.4.3 |
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| 10:48.36 | Fisker- | ~cartographer3 |
| 10:48.37 | purl | hmm... cartographer3 is the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 10:49.24 | CIA-45 | 03quezacolt 07Quezacolt * r78535 10Barrier/ (Bars.xml Config.lua Core.lua FAQ.lua): |
| 10:49.24 | CIA-45 | Barrier: |
| 10:49.24 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:52.18 | Lukian | click2cast is brokeN?! |
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| 11:14.01 | Fisker- | Did they remove quest linking now? |
| 11:14.36 | Funkeh` | no |
| 11:14.40 | Funkeh` | it's just a bug |
| 11:15.07 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 11:15.55 | Funkeh` | oh my god |
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| 11:15.59 | Funkeh` | wierd clock on my screen |
| 11:16.15 | nevcairiel | Hm ALS is broken |
| 11:16.19 | nevcairiel | wonder if i can fix it |
| 11:16.21 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 11:16.32 | Lukian | MiniMapButtonBag eats the clock lol |
| 11:16.43 | Lukian | someone fix click2cast *cries* |
| 11:16.45 | nevcairiel | you can disable it in the interface too |
| 11:16.46 | Funkeh` | lol.. |
| 11:17.22 | Vulcanus | what, is quest linking broken? |
| 11:17.34 | Funkeh` | where's tekkub |
| 11:17.42 | Funkeh` | we we're discussing hijacking the clock into an ldb display |
| 11:17.44 | Vulcanus | in my basement coding addons |
| 11:18.51 | Funkeh` | of for crying out loud |
| 11:19.08 | Funkeh` | they didn't fix the "hit escape" at interface options showing cloak helm |
| 11:19.23 | cnc|food | l2druid |
| 11:19.31 | cnc|food | ur always shapeshifted and they'll never get to see it |
| 11:20.43 | Funkeh` | learn to english |
| 11:20.54 | Vulcanus | Learn to speak English* |
| 11:20.55 | Vulcanus | :p |
| 11:21.39 | Funkeh` | what's the secret to accessing the alarm |
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| 11:22.46 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78536 10AuldLangSyne/FriendList/FriendList.lua: AuldLangSyne: fix for FriendList display with 2.4.3 |
| 11:23.07 | nevcairiel | Funkeh`: /timer <seconds> |
| 11:23.48 | Lukian | oh that's great for cooking :D |
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| 11:25.36 | Vulcanus | ohnoez, i has lua errors |
| 11:28.21 | Vulcanus | oh it was just cache stuff |
| 11:35.44 | Funkeh` | yey |
| 11:35.47 | Funkeh` | got raid dps working |
| 11:35.52 | Funkeh` | 6k dps at balinda haha |
| 11:37.08 | nevcairiel | only? :P |
| 11:37.15 | nevcairiel | 5 people alone can do like 6k |
| 11:42.53 | cnc|work | http://www.lumethemad.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sebspeakerwg2.jpg rofl |
| 11:42.56 | cnc|work | that guy is sick |
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| 11:43.16 | ag` | Funkeh`, why do you want to hijack the clock :) |
| 11:43.24 | nevcairiel | cnc|work: so old :P |
| 11:43.31 | Funkeh` | why not? |
| 11:44.28 | cnc|work | nevcairiel: I know |
| 11:45.13 | ag` | I don't know, what is there to gain? :P |
| 11:46.52 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78537 10Mapster/Mapster.lua: Mapster: dont nil out the UIPanelWindows reference of the WorldMapFrame, seems to not be needed anymore and avoids some rare taint |
| 11:48.28 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78538 10HotCandy/HotCandy.lua: HotCandy: improve swiftmend handling |
| 11:48.45 | cnc|work | nevcairiel: is that a HoT handler ? |
| 11:48.48 | Funkeh` | ag`, that's what I want to find out :P |
| 11:49.14 | ag` | haha |
| 11:49.16 | thul | licks Funkeh` |
| 11:49.19 | ag` | look in FrameXML |
| 11:49.32 | Funkeh` | yeah, thats fun! |
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| 11:51.08 | cnc|work | nevcairiel: any screenshots for the addon you just comitted to ? sounds intresting (hotcandyà ) |
| 11:52.29 | dodga | rocket surgery \o/ |
| 11:52.46 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78539 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua combatlog.lua): |
| 11:52.46 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 11:52.46 | CIA-45 | - FIX: temporary patch for the new combat log events |
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| 11:57.25 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78540 10StatBlock_RaidDPS/ (6 files): StatBlock_RaidDPS: Import |
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| 12:10.35 | StolenLegacy | Anyone has successfully logged on on the EU realms since 2.4.3 installation? |
| 12:10.54 | StolenLegacy | i always get a wow error about a corrupt tauren male model on the car select screen |
| 12:10.57 | StolenLegacy | char* |
| 12:11.11 | CIA-45 | 03Swix * r78541 10LibBabble-Faction-3.0/ (LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua LibBabble-Faction-3.0.toc): LibBabble-Faction-3.0: Add ruRU translation. |
| 12:11.20 | durcyn | that's what you get for modifying your mpq files |
| 12:11.29 | StolenLegacy | i didnt -.- |
| 12:11.32 | SunTsu | StolenLegacy: If my realm pool wasn't down... |
| 12:12.07 | StolenLegacy | well, on the blizz forums the only response you get is to reinstall you wow and repatch -.- |
| 12:12.25 | StolenLegacy | guess it'll be shorter to simply wait 'til blizztard releases a fix |
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| 12:12.59 | nevcairiel | I can login fine |
| 12:13.09 | StolenLegacy | what character race are you using? |
| 12:13.12 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78542 10StatBlock_RaidDPS/ (. Libs/ embeds.xml): StatBlock_RaidDPS: svn props |
| 12:13.37 | nevcairiel | no taurens :) |
| 12:13.45 | StolenLegacy | -.- |
| 12:13.50 | nevcairiel | tried running the repair tool? |
| 12:13.51 | Funkeh` | I have a tauren and no corruption |
| 12:13.54 | cnc|work | StolenLegacy: its most probably you |
| 12:14.00 | cnc|work | try the repair tool |
| 12:14.04 | cnc|work | if that doesn't work, reinstall indeed :p |
| 12:14.21 | StolenLegacy | what language are you using? maybe just one lang patch is corrupt |
| 12:14.25 | StolenLegacy | mine is deDE |
| 12:14.35 | nevcairiel | models are the same data in all languages |
| 12:14.42 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 12:14.55 | Funkeh` | germans get fatter taurens! |
| 12:15.01 | StolenLegacy | xD |
| 12:15.04 | Stanzilla | with sauerkraut! |
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| 12:15.25 | StolenLegacy | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.33 | StolenLegacy | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.52 | nevcairiel | I doubt they will release a fix if its a local corruption issue |
| 12:16.10 | StolenLegacy | well, do they want us to reinstall wow after every patch? |
| 12:16.22 | nevcairiel | I've never had to reinstall wow |
| 12:16.38 | StolenLegacy | well, loads of ppl have this issue |
| 12:16.51 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, I just wonder, did you know about the mapster thing? or what made you even think about testing it? ;p |
| 12:17.16 | StolenLegacy | the only explanation that sounds valid on the blizz boards that it might have something to do with the pre-patch downloads |
| 12:17.17 | nevcairiel | someone posted a taintlog and i tested removing it |
| 12:17.33 | StolenLegacy | w/ the blizz launcher background download feature |
| 12:17.34 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 12:18.21 | Daemona | more interesting |
| 12:18.24 | Daemona | why is my serverdown |
| 12:18.34 | nevcairiel | no reason |
| 12:18.46 | Daemona | and the server thingy recommendongme to reroll on a RP-PVE realm? ^^ |
| 12:19.05 | StolenLegacy | some servers are longer down than others..thats always happening |
| 12:19.20 | StolenLegacy | two weeks ago, azshara wasn't up till 4 PM |
| 12:20.02 | Daemona | Sometime i gonna explain the use of "rethoric questions" to you |
| 12:20.23 | StolenLegacy | thanks^^ |
| 12:20.40 | StolenLegacy | Never play on patch day... |
| 12:21.16 | Funkeh` | play the day after you will still have the same problemsyou just didn't run into them because you didn't play |
| 12:21.36 | StolenLegacy | chances are that by then blue has posted an answer |
| 12:21.48 | StolenLegacy | already 10 pages of posts in that 1 topic |
| 12:21.52 | charon | chances are as blue answers go it's useless ;) |
| 12:22.08 | Funkeh` | yeah, because it's every day a blue posts "what to do if your tauren is corrupt" |
| 12:22.19 | StolenLegacy | its not only tauren |
| 12:22.28 | nevcairiel | repair tool, imhp |
| 12:22.35 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 12:22.47 | StolenLegacy | the prob has occured w/ tauren male, human female, draenei female, troll male&female, bloodelf male |
| 12:22.53 | StolenLegacy | repair doesnt help |
| 12:22.57 | StolenLegacy | already tried that |
| 12:23.13 | charon | so you're basically saying deDE is broken |
| 12:23.18 | charon | that's going to be a fun raiding night in germany huh :D |
| 12:23.36 | nevcairiel | nah its impossible that one language breaks |
| 12:23.37 | StolenLegacy | w8 a sec |
| 12:23.46 | nevcairiel | i could just switch my wow to de and test it |
| 12:23.46 | StolenLegacy | ill turn on enGB langpack and try |
| 12:23.48 | nevcairiel | but i am lazy |
| 12:23.56 | StolenLegacy | ill switch to enGB |
| 12:23.58 | StolenLegacy | sec |
| 12:23.58 | SunTsu | Somebody here had a problem with taurens here yesterday |
| 12:24.17 | profalber1 | female tauren on deDE you say? |
| 12:24.21 | cnc|work | 10 pages worth of people do |
| 12:24.36 | nevcairiel | 10 pages worth from 10 million players is not alot |
| 12:24.44 | StolenLegacy | the prob has occured w/ tauren male, human female, draenei female, troll male&female, bloodelf male |
| 12:24.52 | CIA-45 | 03Swix * r78543 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Faction-2.2/ (Babble-Faction-2.2.lua Babble-Faction-2.2.toc): |
| 12:24.52 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
| 12:24.52 | CIA-45 | -Adв ruRU translation for Babble-Faction-2.2 |
| 12:25.19 | charon | well, i just logged in ... on enGB, but several deDE people in my guild were there too |
| 12:25.46 | StolenLegacy | ok, not working on enGB for me either -.- |
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| 12:26.00 | profalber1 | SoltenLegacy: just created a female tauren hunter, and had no problems |
| 12:26.03 | nevcairiel | as i said, its a local corruption issue that always hits some people on patch days |
| 12:26.17 | StolenLegacy | profalber: male tauren, not female |
| 12:26.20 | nevcairiel | (If you are corrupted, your own char doesnt matter anyway, once you see a tauren in game, you crash) |
| 12:26.50 | StolenLegacy | btw, i was talking about the german forums |
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| 12:26.58 | StolenLegacy | e.g. no 10 million players |
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| 12:35.53 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78544 10BigBrother/ (7 files): BigBrother: rewrite entire combat log event handler for 2.4.3, actually works now. |
| 12:36.10 | charon | StolenLegacy: http://pastebin.ca/1073303 md5s for the not language specific part of Data/, maybe you can check those |
| 12:36.40 | charon | (if mpqs are actually stable enough to always turn out the same, who knows) |
| 12:36.45 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78545 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 12:36.45 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 12:36.45 | CIA-45 | - FIX: some bars not changing groups when they should. |
| 12:36.49 | StolenLegacy | ill check |
| 12:36.58 | Stanzilla | ~seen Tekkub |
| 12:36.59 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 4h 14m 5s ago, saying: 'nope'. |
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| 12:47.01 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r78546 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 12:47.01 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 12:47.01 | CIA-45 | - Minor bugfix |
| 12:52.39 | StolenLegacy | checked the md5, mine is different for common.mpw |
| 12:52.42 | StolenLegacy | mpq* |
| 12:53.25 | StolenLegacy | 38462193fb2cda54670de87cd990095b |
| 12:53.47 | ramoz | wah! fisheye broke my IE |
| 12:53.56 | nevcairiel | IE broke itself |
| 12:54.04 | nevcairiel | fisheye just told it to do it |
| 12:54.14 | cnc|work | StolenLegacy: get a comon.mpq from someone |
| 12:54.14 | cnc|work | ramoz: stop using IE |
| 12:54.14 | cnc|work | get opera / firefox / safari / konqueror |
| 12:54.26 | ramoz | cnc|work: tell my boss - or get me administrator rights! |
| 12:54.32 | nevcairiel | cnc|work: you know that common.mpq is like 3gb? :p |
| 12:54.44 | nevcairiel | 3.5 even |
| 12:54.55 | cnc|work | not like thats much for these day's connection |
| 12:55.10 | cnc|work | sending that to someone with scp would take about 1h, 2h max ? |
| 12:55.16 | StolenLegacy | cnc|work: Exactly 3.777.532.896 Bytes |
| 12:55.31 | nevcairiel | 3.839.157.991 Bytes |
| 12:55.33 | nevcairiel | mine^ |
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| 12:55.37 | cnc|work | what I said, 1-2h depending on the respective connections of sender & receiver :p |
| 12:55.38 | StolenLegacy | lol |
| 12:55.45 | cnc|work | StolenLegacy: guess ur missing some data ? :p |
| 12:55.57 | StolenLegacy | cnc|work: seems so |
| 12:56.07 | nevcairiel | cnc|work: 2h for 3.7 GB is a pretty fast connection, doubt anyone has that upload speed at home |
| 12:56.13 | StolenLegacy | cnc|work: can you check how large yours is? |
| 12:56.26 | cnc|work | as my nick says, i'm not really on a box with WoW |
| 12:56.28 | profalbert | mine is 3.778.644.629 |
| 12:56.40 | nevcairiel | yay a 3rd value :) |
| 12:56.43 | StolenLegacy | lol |
| 12:56.52 | cnc|work | weird |
| 12:56.53 | StolenLegacy | and your wow is working like always, prof? |
| 12:56.57 | cnc|work | it *should* be the same in theory |
| 12:56.59 | profalbert | yep |
| 12:57.04 | cnc|work | what locale profalbert ? |
| 12:57.09 | cnc|work | same question to nev & StolenLegacy |
| 12:57.17 | nevcairiel | common.mpq should be the same for all clients |
| 12:57.19 | nevcairiel | hence common |
| 12:57.31 | nevcairiel | i have enGB and deDE installed |
| 12:57.34 | ramoz | nevcairiel: when |
| 12:57.34 | profalbert | i installed with enGB-installer and then a deDE-langpack |
| 12:57.35 | cnc|work | seems it ain't, shld be the same size logicaly |
| 12:57.35 | nevcairiel | enGB active |
| 12:57.36 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78547 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 12:57.36 | CIA-45 | Fortress: |
| 12:57.36 | CIA-45 | - Added .OnTooltipShow tooltip |
| 12:57.46 | StolenLegacy | i installed w/ deDE and added enGB |
| 12:57.50 | ramoz | will you make sticky and center stuff for BT4? |
| 12:57.54 | StolenLegacy | but common.mpq is same for all languages |
| 12:57.59 | nevcairiel | ramoz: when i have time or so |
| 12:58.13 | ramoz | before wotlk? |
| 12:58.19 | nevcairiel | ramoz: its not important, just l2move |
| 12:58.20 | ramoz | bet its gonna be useless then |
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| 13:00.24 | charon | well, since MPQ is a pack file format, i guess my theory that they build them in some deterministic way is just wrong |
| 13:00.43 | cnc|work | it doesn't make much sense for them to be different |
| 13:00.51 | cnc|work | they're patched by the patch program |
| 13:00.57 | StolenLegacy | couldnt we all unpack our common.mpq and then compare? |
| 13:00.59 | cnc|work | and it would get *really* messy if they weren't exactly the same |
| 13:01.10 | profalbert | cnc|work: they may be patched differently |
| 13:01.14 | profalbert | i patched mine 2.0->2.4 |
| 13:01.21 | cnc|work | hmmm |
| 13:01.27 | profalbert | others are patched with every minor patch |
| 13:01.35 | cnc|work | cld be that patching 2.0->2.1->2.2->2.3->2.4 would yield different results yea |
| 13:01.46 | cnc|work | with more superfluous data |
| 13:01.55 | StolenLegacy | mine was 2.0->2.3- |
| 13:02.00 | charon | yeah... if the 2.0->2.4 patch is built from some source tree at blizz, and patches them in say in alphabetical order, but the incrementals do it in chunks, it'll be different |
| 13:02.10 | StolenLegacy | yup |
| 13:02.27 | StolenLegacy | since the names of the patches to download is stored in a .txt file on the blizz servers |
| 13:02.29 | charon | also, if the patcher does not delete old version but only points the index at the newer one, so will the size |
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| 13:04.27 | StolenLegacy | im unpacking my mpq atm |
| 13:04.42 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78548 10Heatsink/Heatsink.lua: Heatsink: add scale multiplier for emphasis bargroup |
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| 13:04.52 | StolenLegacy | any1 knows a prog you can re-pack data? or replace the tauren model with a working one? |
| 13:05.01 | StolenLegacy | into the mpq i mead |
| 13:05.03 | StolenLegacy | mean* |
| 13:05.11 | cnc|work | I wouldn't recommend that |
| 13:05.29 | StolenLegacy | ofc backupping the old mpq first^ |
| 13:05.36 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78549 10SpellReminder/SpellReminder.lua: |
| 13:05.36 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 13:05.36 | CIA-45 | - FIX: nil error for hidden bars |
| 13:05.55 | cnc|work | thats model editing ur doing afaik |
| 13:06.04 | StolenLegacy | yep, basically |
| 13:06.04 | nevcairiel | the repair tool validates the CRC of every file in your mpq, so you should just wait for blizz to update the server that hosts the validation data |
| 13:06.13 | nevcairiel | and try repair tool in a few hours again |
| 13:06.21 | StolenLegacy | well, i can try now |
| 13:06.22 | StolenLegacy | mom |
| 13:06.59 | StolenLegacy | its checking patch.mpq |
| 13:07.04 | StolenLegacy | 3 gigs |
| 13:07.09 | StolenLegacy | this might take some time |
| 13:07.13 | nevcairiel | its checking all files :) |
| 13:07.18 | StolenLegacy | i know |
| 13:07.30 | nevcairiel | (my patch.mpq is only 1.8gb o.O) |
| 13:07.53 | nevcairiel | ah the repair tool lists uncompressed size |
| 13:07.54 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 13:07.57 | profalbert | mine is 1.9 |
| 13:08.00 | cnc|work | the blizz file format is officialy weird |
| 13:08.20 | StolenLegacy | 1.9 compressed, too |
| 13:08.31 | StolenLegacy | profalbert: whats the exact size? |
| 13:08.52 | SunTsu | Now, blizzard could really fix my realmpool - it's not that it's 5 hours after the end of the maintenance period or something |
| 13:08.58 | StolenLegacy | mine is listed as 2.046.755.946 by vista |
| 13:08.59 | profalbert | StolenLegacy: 2.045.265.633 |
| 13:09.08 | nevcairiel | close enough :P |
| 13:09.15 | StolenLegacy | yep, but again not the same -.- |
| 13:09.23 | cnc|work | StolenLegacy: vista is evil |
| 13:09.25 | sacarasc | the repair tool takes ages to run... |
| 13:09.37 | profalbert | it's vista for me 2 :P |
| 13:09.47 | StolenLegacy | well... |
| 13:09.58 | StolenLegacy | i suppose since i did 2.0->2.3->2.4 |
| 13:10.04 | StolenLegacy | and you did 2.0->2.4 |
| 13:10.13 | StolenLegacy | i have some more left over data in my mpqs |
| 13:10.51 | StolenLegacy | btw, they should REALLY add some option to indicate which mpqs to check |
| 13:11.01 | StolenLegacy | its checking the enGB files right now |
| 13:11.11 | StolenLegacy | already done w/ the deDE |
| 13:11.18 | StolenLegacy | ok, now |
| 13:11.27 | StolenLegacy | checking Data\common.MPQ |
| 13:11.28 | cnc|work | StolenLegacy: btw, are you sure the tauren models are in common ? |
| 13:11.32 | cnc|work | it wld make sense for them to be ofc, but not sure |
| 13:11.49 | CIA-45 | 03durcyn * r78550 10Heatsink/locale-enUS.lua: Heatsink: oh, right, locale too. |
| 13:11.55 | StolenLegacy | okay, seems like blizz is lazy once more |
| 13:11.58 | StolenLegacy | still no error |
| 13:12.15 | nevcairiel | it cant be done with common.mpq in 30s |
| 13:12.18 | StolenLegacy | WTB backupfeature before patch in blizz updater -.- |
| 13:12.30 | StolenLegacy | yeh, but it already checked the CHARACTER\ folder |
| 13:12.34 | StolenLegacy | its at the item\ |
| 13:12.37 | StolenLegacy | folder right now |
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| 13:13.11 | StolenLegacy | and if there is any logic behind blizz's folder system i guess that the tauren male char model should be in character\ |
| 13:13.37 | nevcairiel | I wouldve guessed the current version is in patch.mpq somewhere |
| 13:13.38 | StolenLegacy | i'll check if i can extract the taurenmale model |
| 13:13.44 | StolenLegacy | nope |
| 13:13.55 | StolenLegacy | the char models dont get changed in patches |
| 13:14.02 | nevcairiel | sure they did |
| 13:14.06 | StolenLegacy | and the error is in the common.mpq |
| 13:14.13 | StolenLegacy | wow error screen stated so |
| 13:14.40 | StolenLegacy | and its done w/ the patch.mpq too, btw |
| 13:14.54 | nevcairiel | 2.4 changed alot of the models to contain less vertexes |
| 13:14.59 | nevcairiel | to save rendering time |
| 13:15.10 | cnc|work | it did ? :o |
| 13:15.14 | cnc|work | didn't notice it, ever |
| 13:15.23 | nevcairiel | that was the point :P |
| 13:15.24 | StolenLegacy | yeh, but that got patched into common.mpw |
| 13:15.26 | StolenLegacy | mpq* |
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| 13:21.23 | nevcairiel | someone in my guild reports that he installed 2.4.3 and now when he wants to log in, the installer still wants to give him 2.4.3, thus he cant login :P |
| 13:21.47 | dieck_ | a friend had that too, repair installation helped |
| 13:22.28 | StolenLegacy | repair is running through atm |
| 13:22.52 | StolenLegacy | but common.MPQ and patch.MPQ have already been checked |
| 13:22.58 | StolenLegacy | and no errors yet |
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| 13:25.36 | StolenLegacy | okay, repair is donw |
| 13:25.37 | StolenLegacy | no errors |
| 13:25.44 | StolenLegacy | but ill try if i get an error again |
| 13:27.47 | StolenLegacy | ERROR #131 (0x85100083) File Corrupt |
| 13:27.51 | StolenLegacy | Program:C:\Program Files (x86)\World of Warcraft\WoW.exe |
| 13:27.57 | StolenLegacy | File:character\tauren\male\taurenmale.m2 |
| 13:28.56 | nevcairiel | I bet that happens if you run wow from program files on vista *shrug :P |
| 13:29.09 | StolenLegacy | lol |
| 13:29.13 | durcyn | you konw, you could've reinstalled by now if you'd started when it was first suggested |
| 13:29.17 | durcyn | know* |
| 13:29.21 | StolenLegacy | yeh...maybe |
| 13:29.39 | StolenLegacy | kk, ill try once im back |
| 13:29.41 | StolenLegacy | cu |
| 13:32.37 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r78551 10kgPanels/kgPanels.lua: kgPanels: set background to lowest draw layer relative to the frame borders should now be ontop of the background |
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| 13:42.33 | Lukian | oh dear |
| 13:42.41 | Lukian | auldlangsyne is slightly broken |
| 13:43.29 | charon | Lukian: even r78536? nev made a fix |
| 13:43.41 | nevcairiel | I only fixed the friendlist, only part of ALS i use :) |
| 13:43.47 | Lukian | charon, hmm sec |
| 13:43.51 | Lukian | nevcairiel, yeah that's all |
| 13:43.58 | Lukian | I'll update now |
| 13:44.23 | Lukian | anyone know what's up with click2cast? |
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| 13:44.58 | cnc|work | Lukian: whats up with it ? |
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| 13:45.33 | Lukian | cnc|work, it's non-working |
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| 13:50.22 | Lukian | cnc|work, but I have no bugsack error.. |
| 13:51.09 | cnc|work | weird |
| 13:51.15 | cnc|work | wish I was at home on my box |
| 13:51.18 | cnc|work | I'm a clickcasting addict |
| 13:51.28 | cnc|work | but need to move away from it :p it limits my options |
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| 13:51.32 | cnc|work | think I'm going to mouseover casting |
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| 14:04.35 | Saroz | hrrmr maybe I should get statblocks now |
| 14:04.40 | Saroz | Funkeh`, convince me |
| 14:04.54 | Funkeh` | anyone with a vista laptop know how to turn the fan off? |
| 14:05.08 | cnc|work | Funkeh`: grab a hammer and turn it into dust ? |
| 14:05.13 | Fisker- | uninstall vista |
| 14:05.22 | cnc|work | that also works |
| 14:05.26 | Funkeh` | -turn fan off- being the keywords there |
| 14:05.33 | cnc|work | Fisker-: you're infecting me with your troll behaviour :( |
| 14:05.35 | Saroz | google! |
| 14:05.40 | Fisker- | well the fan is on because of the excessive system requirements |
| 14:05.44 | Funkeh` | I am on the 5th page with nothing useful |
| 14:06.13 | Funkeh` | I would open the damn thing up if it didn't void warranty |
| 14:06.26 | Stanzilla | if your laptop did not came with vista preinstalled there's a chance that vista does not support the fan throttle feature |
| 14:06.37 | Funkeh` | it came preinstalled |
| 14:06.44 | Stanzilla | weird then |
| 14:06.46 | cnc|work | Funkeh`: check in your bios for fan settings ? |
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| 14:06.57 | Stanzilla | do you know NHC (Notebook Hardware Control)? |
| 14:07.03 | Funkeh` | nope :x |
| 14:07.15 | Stanzilla | try it :D |
| 14:07.16 | profalbert | does NHC work with current platforms? |
| 14:07.40 | Stanzilla | I haven't checked for a long time |
| 14:07.59 | profalbert | last time I checked santa rosa wasn't supported at all |
| 14:08.02 | Funkeh` | willl give it a shot |
| 14:08.07 | Funkeh` | but says 2006 |
| 14:08.13 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78552 10Click2Cast/ (8 files): Click2Cast: Added bindings info to data broker display tooltip, added bindings info to blizzard config window |
| 14:08.20 | Funkeh` | 3p]w32l\ |
| 14:08.27 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 14:08.30 | Funkeh` | 2007 * |
| 14:08.35 | Funkeh` | so maybe has vista support no idea |
| 14:08.45 | Funkeh` | Notebook Hardware Control requires Windows 2000, XP or Windows Vista 32Bit. |
| 14:08.47 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 14:09.28 | Stanzilla | uh just found something |
| 14:10.01 | Stanzilla | http://www.p35-forum.de/board/notebook-hardware-control/nhc-releases/8008-nhc-entwicklungsstand-juli-2008/ it's german but basicly he says that a new version with full vista support is coming soon....I know that "soon" means within a year for him so.. |
| 14:10.37 | Funkeh` | NHC doesn't seem to have fan support |
| 14:10.50 | profalbert | Funkeh`: it doesn't |
| 14:11.04 | Stanzilla | does RivaTuner support notebook stuff? |
| 14:11.06 | cnc|work | Stanzilla: http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 14:11.07 | CIA-45 | 03Copystring * r78553 10YurrCombatLog/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua Minimap.lua): |
| 14:11.07 | CIA-45 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 14:11.08 | CIA-45 | - Bugfix for Totems and other "guardians" showing N/A, added new options to show guardians and replaced it with Target of Target wich didnt work anyway |
| 14:11.08 | CIA-45 | - small line reorder for Minimap.lua |
| 14:11.08 | cnc|work | that soon ? |
| 14:11.35 | Funkeh` | brb |
| 14:11.39 | profalbert | Funkeh`: when your platform is supported, you can undervolt, set custom frequency steps |
| 14:11.43 | cnc|work | ~soon |
| 14:11.44 | purl | methinks soon is well before heat death |
| 14:11.44 | profalbert | dman |
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| 14:11.59 | cnc|work | purl soon is also http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 14:11.59 | purl | cnc|work: okay |
| 14:12.03 | cnc|work | ~soon |
| 14:12.04 | purl | from memory, soon is well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
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| 14:15.37 | ag` | Saroz, you could also just write your own LDB display, I hear a bar-type display is very requested and is still up for grabs |
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| 14:16.10 | Saroz | well man, so many mods now, and cant get everything for one |
| 14:16.11 | Saroz | sux |
| 14:16.12 | Funkeh` | damn |
| 14:16.20 | Funkeh` | fuck all in the bios |
| 14:16.36 | Funkeh` | man gotta be a way to turn it off short of ripping it out |
| 14:16.47 | AckisWork | lol |
| 14:17.14 | ag` | Saroz, everything you need will be available for LDB displays very soon :P |
| 14:17.32 | Saroz | cool |
| 14:17.34 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: another thing I found is this http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.27b3.exe |
| 14:17.40 | Stanzilla | works with nvidia cards, too |
| 14:18.12 | Funkeh` | I want to turn off system fan |
| 14:18.20 | Funkeh` | isn't that a graphics voerclocker |
| 14:18.31 | profalbert | it can underclock too i suppose |
| 14:18.40 | ag` | Saroz, I don't know if you've followed the whole deal, but it essentially means that any addon written for LDB can be used with any display... So you can show them with StatBlock, Fortress or something you write yourself |
| 14:18.56 | sb | mhh - 4800g... *sigh* |
| 14:19.05 | Saroz | yea I get it, but still, so many diff. mods to be converted and shit |
| 14:19.19 | Megalon | Funkeh`: tried speedfan for fancontrol? |
| 14:19.28 | Funkeh` | nope |
| 14:19.55 | nevcairiel | why do you want to turn it off o.O |
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| 14:20.01 | Funkeh` | it's broken |
| 14:20.04 | Funkeh` | and sounds like a whore |
| 14:20.12 | nevcairiel | replace it and dont touch the system until you did |
| 14:20.13 | Funkeh` | and I can't send it in for a while |
| 14:20.14 | ag` | but it still pushes air doesn't it |
| 14:20.32 | nevcairiel | those fans are there for a reason, the mobo will most likely die without it |
| 14:20.36 | Funkeh` | yes but it is extremely noisy |
| 14:20.38 | ag` | I mean without the air your card is going to get funny real fast :) |
| 14:20.44 | Funkeh` | I have a laptop cooler under it |
| 14:20.48 | Funkeh` | which is more than sufficient |
| 14:20.54 | nevcairiel | no it isnt |
| 14:20.57 | nevcairiel | but go ahead .) |
| 14:21.05 | Funkeh` | for a few days yeah it is |
| 14:21.06 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: it has fan control, too |
| 14:21.11 | profalbert | the fans are usually regulated by temperature |
| 14:21.23 | profalbert | --> low temp will turn them off automatically |
| 14:21.35 | Vulcanus | mine didnt until I enabled Q-Fan on my Asus mobo |
| 14:21.36 | nevcairiel | few days doesnt matter really, if it gets too hot once it dies |
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| 14:21.37 | Vulcanus | its awesome |
| 14:21.44 | nevcairiel | but its your comp :D |
| 14:22.05 | Funkeh` | Im not going to be doing anything extreme |
| 14:22.06 | AckisWork | if it gets too hot, just pour water on it imo |
| 14:22.12 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 14:22.15 | Funkeh` | or turn it off? :/ |
| 14:22.33 | AckisWork | that's what they mean by watercooling |
| 14:24.13 | Vulcanus | Note to self: don't let Ackis build my computer |
| 14:24.14 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 14:24.41 | cnc|work | AckisWork: can you build my next comp please ? |
| 14:24.53 | cnc|work | I want a comp that won't die when pouring water into it like yours ! |
| 14:24.55 | AckisWork | lol |
| 14:25.10 | AckisWork | you know, water doesn't hurt computers, assuming they're powered off |
| 14:25.16 | AckisWork | let them dry off and you can run them again |
| 14:25.28 | cnc|work | and assuming powered on ? :p |
| 14:25.34 | nevcairiel | bzrzzrzr! |
| 14:25.40 | cnc|work | exactly |
| 14:25.53 | AckisWork | that's why you turn it off before giving it a bath :P |
| 14:26.38 | profalbert | just imagine... "Be right back, have to cool down my laptop" |
| 14:26.50 | ag` | AckisWork, actually it might do, because of the minerals in the water... I'm not sure about it |
| 14:27.20 | ag` | But what do I know :P |
| 14:27.24 | nevcairiel | yeah dont use salt water :P |
| 14:27.35 | cnc|work | powers his laptop off |
| 14:27.41 | cnc|work | throws his laptop into the sea |
| 14:27.54 | cnc|work | slaps AckisWork because his laptop doesn't work anymore |
| 14:27.57 | cnc|work | I WANT REINBURSMENT |
| 14:28.05 | ag` | page a GM |
| 14:28.23 | cnc|work | I wonder what he's answer |
| 14:28.35 | cnc|work | if I go complain to him my laptop stopped working and I want him to pay me back :p |
| 14:28.38 | Stanzilla | ag`: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14158.msg230008#msg230008 :P |
| 14:28.45 | AckisWork | ~lart cnc|work |
| 14:28.45 | purl | teaches cnc|work that M$ Access is a database. No, really, a database. A real live multi-user... well, ok, not multi-user, but a database. Yeah, that sounds right. |
| 14:29.22 | Elkano | Ackis, seen my post? |
| 14:29.35 | AckisWork | not yet, checking out right now actually |
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| 14:30.08 | ag` | Stanzilla, lol... Die WAU! |
| 14:30.12 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 14:30.27 | Pkekyo| | STOP BEING SO GODDAMN PREGNANT! |
| 14:30.45 | nevcairiel | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:30.51 | cnc|work | omg; purl is torturing me |
| 14:30.53 | cnc|work | nooooo |
| 14:30.55 | cnc|work | ~~~~ |
| 14:30.56 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT cnc|work!!! |
| 14:31.25 | Stanzilla | girl fight inc |
| 14:31.26 | AckisWork | Elkano: ty, type /arl and turn the recipe filter off for factions (ie: make sure it's unchecked) |
| 14:31.30 | Pkekyo| | wtf, patch? |
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| 14:32.02 | Pkekyo| | why is there a patch today? |
| 14:32.07 | Elkano | Ackis, but shouldn't it show me alliance vendors only if it's active? |
| 14:32.12 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r78554 10Stable/locals/localisation.lua: |
| 14:32.12 | CIA-45 | Stable: |
| 14:32.12 | CIA-45 | - Added a couple of missing strings |
| 14:32.15 | Stanzilla | because you touch yourself at night |
| 14:32.19 | Fisker- | Elkano my friend |
| 14:32.29 | Pkekyo| | I should touch myself more often then, maybe it'll speed up WotLK :p |
| 14:32.33 | AckisWork | Elkano: iirc if it's checked it shows all, unchecked just your faction? |
| 14:32.35 | Elkano | bday present from blizzard to me... in order to make up for that they crashed my realmpool |
| 14:32.54 | Elkano | but shouldn't that be available for alliace, too? |
| 14:32.57 | Stanzilla | oh happy bday then :P |
| 14:33.28 | cnc|work | omg, LORDFARLANDER commited |
| 14:33.33 | Elkano | hmm... ok, seems like not |
| 14:33.42 | Fisker- | Elkano my friend |
| 14:34.16 | Kuja^ | Fisker-: seems that you are beeing ignored :D |
| 14:35.00 | Elkano | what is he writing? |
| 14:35.29 | cnc|work | he *is* being ignored ? |
| 14:35.32 | cnc|work | haha fisker you got owned :p |
| 14:35.33 | Kuja^ | oh i was right? :P |
| 14:35.42 | cnc|work | anyway, i'm heading home |
| 14:35.44 | AckisWork | Elkano: sorry, what do you mean? If it's checked it shows both horde and alliance, if it's unchecked it just shows your faction |
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| 14:36.02 | Elkano | yeah, just noticed it's a horde vendor only recipe ^^ |
| 14:36.12 | AckisWork | you're horde? |
| 14:36.14 | Elkano | Fisker-, jk ^^ |
| 14:36.20 | Elkano | no, I'm alliance |
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| 14:36.33 | AckisWork | ok, so you have it unchecked, and it's showing you a horde only/ |
| 14:36.36 | Elkano | but I thought it was showing the wrong vendors ^^ |
| 14:37.07 | AckisWork | heh |
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| 14:38.13 | AckisWork | so everything is working as it should? :D |
| 14:38.27 | Elkano | seems so |
| 14:38.35 | AckisWork | yay |
| 14:38.37 | AckisWork | lol |
| 14:38.46 | AckisWork | except Zhinjio is slow w/ the new GUI |
| 14:38.48 | AckisWork | :( |
| 14:39.19 | pb_ee1 | http://vimeo.com/1331805 (not mine) |
| 14:41.07 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78555 10Click2Cast/Click2CastMenu.lua: Click2Cast: Error fix |
| 14:41.44 | AckisWork | speaking of C2C, I noticed I had issues with it last night... people almost died... ag, you're our only hope! |
| 14:42.43 | Pkekyo| | Warrior |
| 14:42.43 | Pkekyo| | - Revenge: Ranks 1-5 of this ability now have damage ranges instead of fixed damage values (like ranks 6-8.) |
| 14:42.43 | Pkekyo| | gee, aren't we spoiled?: p |
| 14:42.43 | AckisWork | oh Elkano lol I didn't read the bottom of your post, hence why I'm confused |
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| 14:47.19 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: could BT3 let you assign keybindings for different forms? I was able to do it in BT4 last night, suprised me |
| 14:48.17 | AckisWork | ~seen phanx |
| 14:48.18 | purl | phanx <n=phanx133@adsl-69-228-193-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 35d 9h 36m 5s ago, saying: 'hurrah, forums are alive!'. |
| 14:50.44 | CIA-45 | 03johny * r78556 10MisInformation/MisInformation.lua: |
| 14:50.44 | CIA-45 | MisInformation: |
| 14:50.44 | CIA-45 | * Added range-check support for alerting if your MD target moves out of range. |
| 14:50.44 | CIA-45 | * Added color configuration options. |
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| 14:50.51 | CIA-45 | 03ulic * r78557 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Dalliah.lua: LittleWigs: TK/Dalliah- Fixed BossDeath |
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| 14:54.55 | AckisWork | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14265.0 ruRU strings for Ace2/Ace3 if someone wants to touch them |
| 14:55.36 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/e4b70365dd36509e# |
| 14:55.52 | Funkeh` | lol I phone up the laptop company |
| 14:55.58 | Funkeh` | they are coming tomorow to pck it up |
| 14:56.03 | Funkeh` | now that's what I call service |
| 14:56.17 | Megalon | ring ring ring ring ring ring bananaphone! |
| 14:56.30 | sacarasc | it would be better if they time travelled so they pick it up just after you put the phone down |
| 14:56.38 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 15:01.39 | Stanzilla | phones are evil http://www.break.com/index/cell-phones-are-evil.html |
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| 15:20.45 | ramoz | nevcairiel: is the whole IU supposed to disapear when i open my map with mapster? |
| 15:25.44 | Daemona | whom do i have to PayPal 10 bucks to add threat-2.0 support to Aloft? :X |
| 15:26.28 | sylvanaar | wow |
| 15:26.34 | sylvanaar | where to begin |
| 15:27.16 | kaiden | Daemona, me |
| 15:27.28 | kaiden | but you must make it 10 beelion dollors! |
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| 15:27.54 | Daemona | oh sure, for porting the module that was used with threat-1.0 to threat-2.0 ? ;) |
| 15:28.01 | Daemona | srsly cant be that bad |
| 15:28.19 | Daemona | i'd do it myself if i had a grain o coding knowledge... but alas... i dont |
| 15:28.22 | Gnarfoz | srsly can't know which unit to display what amount of threat on? |
| 15:28.46 | Gnarfoz | it's unknown which nameplate belongs to what unit, IIRC |
| 15:28.55 | Daemona | orly? |
| 15:29.10 | Gnarfoz | yarly |
| 15:29.11 | Daemona | nowai |
| 15:29.13 | Daemona | :( |
| 15:29.18 | kaiden | yawai |
| 15:29.18 | Gnarfoz | ever noticed how CP's sometimes jump from unit to unit |
| 15:29.28 | Gnarfoz | because it can't tell them apart |
| 15:29.44 | Daemona | hmm time to yell at slouken for slacky design? |
| 15:30.20 | Daemona | but why can you display name/guild/faction/hp bar in class color |
| 15:30.24 | Daemona | and all that crap? |
| 15:30.24 | Gnarfoz | no, it's a miracle someone even made something like Nameplates Modifier (or in turn, Aloft), because for a really long time, those were considered unmodifiable |
| 15:30.26 | Daemona | all caching? |
| 15:30.32 | Gnarfoz | because they're not placed by the UI |
| 15:30.52 | Gnarfoz | etc |
| 15:30.59 | Gnarfoz | dunno, it's magic to me, too :D |
| 15:31.04 | Gnarfoz | ~seen roartindon |
| 15:31.05 | purl | roartindon <n=jtlim@cm32.delta200.maxonline.com.sg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 136d 5h 56m 16s ago, saying: 'Because it receives one parameter sometimes, two parameters at others'. |
| 15:31.09 | Daemona | anyone got sloukens paypal adress? ;) |
| 15:33.18 | CIA-45 | 03gnarfoz * r78558 10Capping/core.lua: Capping: update queue timers for 2.4.3 queue times (80secs instead of 120 secs) |
| 15:33.47 | Gnarfoz | there, a good deed to start the day off :> |
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| 15:37.02 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r78559 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (28 files): |
| 15:37.02 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 15:37.02 | CIA-45 | - Locales update |
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| 15:38.08 | charon | Daemona: you'd need a way to track the GUID... if you look at CoreModules/ClassData.lua, it apparently guesses the class from various sources like mobs you target/mouseover, guild roster, etc |
| 15:38.26 | charon | so you _might_ be able to guess the GUID on target/mouseover, and exploit that |
| 15:38.58 | Daemona | charon i was extrapolating a wish for threat bars on adds at muru, of which are 2 same name and class |
| 15:39.03 | Daemona | or Kil Jaeden |
| 15:39.13 | Daemona | where 4 are same name and class ;=) |
| 15:39.16 | Daemona | so that wont help |
| 15:39.34 | charon | so far omen's AoE mode has always been enough for me |
| 15:39.54 | Daemona | sure, but i usually dont have omen in the center of my screen ;) |
| 15:40.09 | Gnarfoz | I don't think that'd be all too reliable :\ |
| 15:40.18 | Daemona | especially with bladeflurry active and a prot pala thinking its good to kite 4 mobs past me |
| 15:40.42 | charon | Daemona: i have a sort of half-done pullout bar done that can display the AoE mode data very concisely if you mark the mobs with raid targets |
| 15:40.53 | Daemona | general reaction -> DAMN IDIOT -> auto-attack of -> vanish -> evasion |
| 15:41.18 | charon | never made it to trunk though, because it doesn't save its state between logins, and the look pretty much reflects my artistic abilities |
| 15:41.22 | Daemona | i guess its more a convenient thing than anything else |
| 15:41.23 | charon | IOW, it's too ugly for trunk. |
| 15:41.34 | charon | lemme check if it's on branches |
| 15:41.43 | Daemona | charon i dont want anything funky ... i want the old pullout bar back ... |
| 15:41.50 | Gnarfoz | so, Arrowmaster, how did that string.format thing turn out? |
| 15:41.59 | Daemona | were you could pullout the 2 tank bars for gurtog bloodboil e.g. |
| 15:42.15 | charon | i have the same thing for single target, but i'm overdoing it |
| 15:42.15 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903839117&sid=1 |
| 15:42.22 | Daemona | i have no idea why it never got re-implemented for 2.0 |
| 15:42.27 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: and how the fuck did you know that i just got up |
| 15:42.34 | Daemona | a simple right-click pullout bar |
| 15:42.36 | charon | if you're interested, check out omen from branches/Omen/charon/ and give me some feedback |
| 15:42.39 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: psychic, of course |
| 15:42.52 | Daemona | guess that will be -> monday if i dont forget ;) |
| 15:43.09 | Gnarfoz | while I've got no clue what time zone you're in, ... spider sense is tingling! :p |
| 15:43.10 | Daemona | i am kinda on the run for a extended weekend job ;) |
| 15:43.27 | charon | and the reason why it was never reimplemented is that anti.arc ran out of time |
| 15:43.46 | Daemona | i bugged him a million times about pullout bar |
| 15:43.48 | Daemona | .. |
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| 15:44.33 | Daemona | charon if you can make something up like the 1.0 right-click pulloutbar -> ninja-commit it |
| 15:44.34 | Daemona | ;) |
| 15:44.49 | Daemona | 90% of Omen users will love you |
| 15:44.53 | charon | i'm not going to push half done features |
| 15:45.07 | charon | test my branch and give feedback... or write it yourself |
| 15:45.18 | Daemona | whats half done about a feature creating a bar showing your fractional aggro vs another player? ;) |
| 15:45.25 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: aha. so, is this really a problem for any addons out there (like Threat-2.0, obviously), or just something that should probably be fixed but has no direct consequences right now |
| 15:45.40 | charon | see above, it doesn't save state, it breaks if you try to remove them, it's ugly |
| 15:45.48 | Daemona | hmmmm |
| 15:45.52 | charon | also, it log-scales under certain circumstances and i'm not sure people get the hang of that ;) |
| 15:45.54 | charon | (i like it though) |
| 15:45.59 | Arrowmaster | something that should probably be fixed but has no direct consequences right now afaik |
| 15:46.10 | Gnarfoz | phew |
| 15:46.11 | Gnarfoz | ^_^ |
| 15:46.11 | Daemona | gotta run, will have a look at it charon |
| 15:46.16 | charon | thanks |
| 15:46.17 | charon | me too |
| 15:47.43 | Arrowmaster | yeah it seems it didnt effect Threat-2.0 becasue we knew we were working with a 64bit number and had to reduce it since even if it was changed 52bit would still be the usable max |
| 15:47.51 | Arrowmaster | due to floating point |
| 15:51.33 | harl|WoW | i need an add-on that automatically kills stupid people |
| 15:51.45 | Arrowmaster | who doesnt |
| 15:51.59 | ckknight | I made one of those once, but it never got past QA |
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| 15:53.32 | EvilJohn- | heh |
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| 15:53.42 | EvilJohn- | I think the addon is called "Archimonde" |
| 15:53.49 | EvilJohn- | WHOA, I"M ON FIRE |
| 15:54.27 | Megalon | archimonde is more like "stupid people killing the not-so-stupids" |
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| 15:54.46 | EvilJohn- | I didn't stay there weren't side effects |
| 15:55.18 | Megalon | lurker below, no side effects! |
| 15:55.27 | Megalon | "why did i got pwnd off the platform?!?!?!?!?" |
| 15:55.28 | Megalon | :S |
| 15:55.31 | EvilJohn- | excellent point |
| 15:57.03 | Megalon | you could always draw a little circle on the minimap at lurker, anyone inside it probably does not suffer from movement-dyslexia ;D |
| 15:57.17 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78560 10Click2Cast/Click2CastMenu.lua: Click2Cast: Bug fixes |
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| 16:22.56 | rennegade | !list |
| 16:23.41 | kaiden | lol |
| 16:23.55 | nevcairiel | I should write a custom ban trigger for those people |
| 16:24.05 | kaiden | indeed |
| 16:24.14 | nevcairiel | !list |
| 16:24.20 | Drundia | what does it do? |
| 16:24.25 | nevcairiel | not even anyone with a crazy script in here |
| 16:24.27 | kaiden | or what would be wicked is an irc bot that dcc send the addon given by !get commands |
| 16:24.29 | kaiden | that would be wicked! |
| 16:24.36 | kaiden | but spammy |
| 16:25.14 | CIA-45 | 03nightik * r78561 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 16:25.14 | CIA-45 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 16:25.14 | CIA-45 | - ruRU locale update |
| 16:25.59 | CIA-45 | 03nightik * r78562 10LibBabble-Spell-3.0/ (lib.xml ruRU.lua): |
| 16:25.59 | CIA-45 | LibBabble-Spell-3.0 |
| 16:25.59 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU locale |
| 16:26.16 | kaiden | not that cia isn't spammy ;p |
| 16:27.47 | CIA-45 | 03apoco * r78563 10RBM_Sunwell/Muru.lua: RBM_Sunwell: Muru Cleanup |
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| 16:28.24 | laeg | is there any mod that will show both horde and alliance gy locations regardless of which faction the user is playing at a given time? |
| 16:30.55 | Shirik | nevcairiel: ping? |
| 16:31.00 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 16:31.06 | CIA-45 | 03nightik * r78564 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/ (. Localization/ruRU.lua lib.xml): |
| 16:31.06 | CIA-45 | LibDogTag-Unit-3.0: |
| 16:31.06 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU locale |
| 16:31.08 | Shirik | you know svn details, yeah? |
| 16:31.20 | nevcairiel | on what level? |
| 16:31.28 | Zhinjio | Good morning. |
| 16:31.38 | Shirik | just double-checking: Locks are automatically released on commit, right? |
| 16:31.47 | nevcairiel | Um |
| 16:31.49 | nevcairiel | no idea |
| 16:31.51 | Shirik | :< |
| 16:32.59 | nevcairiel | the manual doesnt say anything about it |
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| 16:33.52 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78565 10Bartender4/actionBar/States.lua: Bartender4: fix some behaviour |
| 16:33.53 | Josh_Borke | Shirik: locks are a terrible thing |
| 16:34.03 | Shirik | locks still have to be used in certain cases |
| 16:34.13 | Shirik | it's very rare, but sometimes they have to be used |
| 16:34.36 | nevcairiel | Shirik: it looks like it unlocks it when i commited that |
| 16:34.48 | Shirik | ok :) thanks |
| 16:35.01 | Shirik | I don't have a command line client atm so I don't have a real way of checking :/ |
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| 16:43.36 | Saroz | nevcairiel, when are you gonna make them sticky? |
| 16:43.58 | Saroz | Still using BT3 :| |
| 16:44.16 | nevcairiel | wtf do you need sticky for |
| 16:44.19 | nevcairiel | l2move |
| 16:44.24 | Saroz | perfect alignment ofc |
| 16:45.47 | ausmara | Why have action bars displayed should be the question :( |
| 16:45.52 | Seerah | get align :) |
| 16:46.11 | nevcairiel | I bet ausmara plays a rogue :P |
| 16:46.19 | ausmara | Shaman / Priest. |
| 16:47.00 | Stanzilla | zomg server up |
| 16:47.12 | nevcairiel | I have so many spells that i use so rarely, i would forgot the keybinds to them |
| 16:47.16 | nevcairiel | so i have those on actionbars |
| 16:47.18 | nevcairiel | + potions |
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| 16:52.32 | Aeyan | I use 1-6 fairly regularly, the rest on keybinds |
| 16:52.46 | Aeyan | Still use bars though, I like cooldown/mana/range notification, heh |
| 16:53.30 | Aeyan | Plus it looks symmetrical |
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| 16:55.25 | CIA-45 | 03nightik * r78566 10Bartender3/ActionBarStates.lua: |
| 16:55.26 | CIA-45 | Bartender3: |
| 16:55.26 | CIA-45 | - ActionBarStates added ruRU stances |
| 16:56.31 | Stanzilla | russian invasion |
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| 17:06.44 | CIA-45 | 03kunda * r78567 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-deDE.lua: GatherMate: deDE update (Patch 2.4.3) |
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| 17:09.02 | aestil | anyone have a problem with chatters mouse scroll module? |
| 17:09.39 | aestil | on all but one of my characters, it causes an error. |
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| 17:10.08 | aestil | http://ace.pastey.net/91428 |
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| 17:24.01 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78568 10SpellReminder/ (SpellReminder.lua combatlog.lua): |
| 17:24.01 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 17:24.01 | CIA-45 | - FIX: bug where some "proc" spells were showing without proccing. |
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| 17:34.57 | CIA-45 | 03ckknight * r78569 10LibDogTag-Unit-3.0/Categories/TooltipScanning.lua: LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 - don't mess with the faction thingy when in combat. |
| 17:35.22 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78570 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast.lua: Click2Cast: Added .text to databroker |
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| 17:40.44 | CIA-45 | 03ag * r78571 10Fortress/Core.lua: |
| 17:40.44 | CIA-45 | Fortress: |
| 17:40.44 | CIA-45 | - don't add : to label if text doesn't have any characters |
| 17:42.32 | AckisWork | ping LordFarlander |
| 17:44.25 | syeren | ckknight. |
| 17:44.25 | Vulcanus | AckisWork: when I open RecipeRadar, ARL whines about more than one tradeskill being open. Fixplx |
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| 17:44.34 | syeren | Will you at least fix Parrot so it fucking works in 2.4.3? |
| 17:44.58 | ckknight | I'm a bit busy right now |
| 17:45.21 | ckknight | I only fixed LibDogTag-Unit-3.0 because I knew the issue precisely and knew how to fix it quickly |
| 17:45.35 | AckisWork | remove RecipeRadar? Problem fixed? :D |
| 17:45.48 | syeren | :( |
| 17:46.01 | AckisWork | points Vulcanus to CurseForge to create a ticket otherwise I won't remember |
| 17:46.07 | Vulcanus | bah |
| 17:46.09 | syeren | [2008/07/16 18:41:03-866-x3]: Parrot-r78330\Data\CombatEvents.lua:55: attempt to concatenate field '?' (a nil value) --- |
| 17:46.12 | syeren | :( |
| 17:47.17 | Hjalte | A friend of mine is feeling like trying out fubar but he doesn't want to download all the plugins he needs manually (I tried making him do that already) - Is there a package anywhere I can make him download with fubar + basic plugins? |
| 17:47.23 | AckisWork | tickets are good :) |
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| 17:50.22 | kaiden | Hjalte, being lazy is frowned upon |
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| 17:56.59 | kenlyric | what's a "basic plugin" to fubar? |
| 17:57.06 | kenlyric | everybody needs different things |
| 17:57.27 | ZealotOnAStick | what the frak does Fortress do? |
| 17:59.03 | Vulcanus | so why does Mapster hide the rest of the UI now? O.o |
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| 18:03.48 | Vulcanus | nevcairiel: ping |
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| 18:07.22 | cubicool | Does anyone here know why the following macro won't toggle "auto" shoot? /cast [target=targettarget,harm] Shoot; Shoot |
| 18:07.29 | cubicool | It'll do ONE wand shoot, then stops. |
| 18:07.52 | AckisWork | wand? |
| 18:07.57 | AckisWork | not auto-shot? |
| 18:08.05 | cubicool | Yeah, wand. |
| 18:08.13 | AckisWork | try !Shoot |
| 18:08.22 | AckisWork | ! means it toggles it on/off |
| 18:08.26 | AckisWork | errr toggles it on |
| 18:08.45 | cubicool | Yeah, that didn't help; we tried that yesterday... |
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| 18:08.59 | Funkeh` | is there a small simple tool for fixing a mirror image |
| 18:09.10 | Funkeh` | or mirror an image etc |
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| 18:10.12 | Stanzilla | windows live gallery |
| 18:10.15 | Stanzilla | can do that imo |
| 18:10.32 | vithos | IrfanView can |
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| 18:11.07 | Zergreth | hey there |
| 18:11.29 | Zergreth | ever since 2.4.3, the map is hiding EVERY other interface element, using mapster...any idea how i could fix this or what exactly the problem is? |
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| 18:14.08 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, wtf? :P |
| 18:14.12 | kaiden | Zergreth, point at your computer and say meep meep moop palla palla schniggity! |
| 18:14.16 | Stanzilla | :( |
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| 18:14.38 | nevcairiel | Zergreth: can you open the Mapster.lua file in the Mapster dir and change a thing, and tell me if it fixes that? |
| 18:15.06 | kaiden | Stanzilla, latest ui pix plis |
| 18:15.07 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, change ANYTHING? |
| 18:15.09 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla, I can rotate it in windows photo gallery |
| 18:15.13 | nevcairiel | Zergreth: nah :P |
| 18:15.14 | Funkeh` | can't find mirror |
| 18:15.18 | Zergreth | :P |
| 18:15.20 | Zergreth | tell me what to change |
| 18:15.28 | Stanzilla | hmm |
| 18:15.37 | nevcairiel | Zergreth: line 46, remove the comment signs (the -- ) from the beginning of the line |
| 18:15.44 | Stanzilla | I think Windows Live Photo Gallery > Windows Photo Gallery |
| 18:15.45 | nevcairiel | and tell me if it works afterwards |
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| 18:16.13 | Zergreth | fixes it, yupyup |
| 18:16.16 | Stanzilla | btw Funkeh` did you upload the screenshot of my top part UI on wowi? :P |
| 18:16.18 | Zergreth | guess this was a problem with the update then |
| 18:16.20 | Zergreth | not 2.4.3 |
| 18:16.25 | Funkeh` | yup |
| 18:16.27 | nevcairiel | weird stuff |
| 18:16.29 | nevcairiel | works for me |
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| 18:16.49 | Zergreth | i even tried with only Mapster and no other addons enabled, stuff always hides |
| 18:16.49 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78572 10Mapster/Mapster.lua: Mapster: revert some change |
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| 18:17.03 | Zergreth | ;P |
| 18:17.15 | Zergreth | now im almost happy, my interface almost has its old feeling back |
| 18:17.27 | Zergreth | its just that i overwrote some change in the coords.lua file of mapster when updating D: |
| 18:18.16 | Funkeh` | is imagemagick good? |
| 18:18.17 | nevcairiel | what do you change in there? |
| 18:18.34 | Zergreth | i change the position of the coordination display |
| 18:18.39 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 18:18.39 | Zergreth | so the MobMap display has enough room |
| 18:19.25 | CIA-45 | 03nevcairiel * r78573 10BigBrother/BigBrother.lua: BigBrother: fix some stuff that appear to be drycode mistakes |
| 18:19.44 | copystring | anyone knows what spellSchool number this new school type "nature+shadow" has? |
| 18:20.42 | nevcairiel | copystring: |
| 18:20.43 | nevcairiel | 7/16 19:37:37.583 SPELL_DAMAGE,0xF1300063A3000999,"Sunblade Protector",0xa48,0x0000000000002695,"Elowin",0x514,46480,"Fel Lightning",0x28,4576,40,0,0,0,nil,nil,nil |
| 18:20.57 | nevcairiel | thats the cast of it |
| 18:21.11 | copystring | ah sweet, thanks |
| 18:21.27 | copystring | 0x28, thought so |
| 18:22.36 | Zergreth | weird, ingame music stops and starts again when reloading the UI |
| 18:22.40 | Zergreth | did this always happen? |
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| 18:26.03 | kaiden | all i've got to say is wtf is with this honkin button for kgPanels ... |
| 18:26.28 | kaiden | ohhh.. that's Fortress :p |
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| 18:30.48 | user8989345 | mooooin |
| 18:30.52 | user8989345 | jemand da? |
| 18:30.58 | breser | nevcairiel: Bad nevcairiel. |
| 18:31.10 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 18:31.13 | Ironhand | is there a straightforward way in Grid to permanently highlight my own frame? |
| 18:31.23 | user8989345 | erm, ok, english |
| 18:31.45 | breser | nevcairiel: Ohh nm. What's the point of the SetText("") |
| 18:31.59 | nevcairiel | to set it to an empty text? :P |
| 18:32.11 | breser | Yeah but why? Worked fine without that. |
| 18:32.24 | user8989345 | erm, do you guys also have problems with the new update regarding cartographer? |
| 18:32.34 | sb | yay, 4800 gold :/ |
| 18:32.44 | kaiden | sb, give to me |
| 18:32.46 | nevcairiel | breser: not with 2.4.3 |
| 18:32.48 | sb | already gone |
| 18:32.53 | user8989345 | all my waypoints are gone |
| 18:32.54 | sb | 22 bags |
| 18:33.03 | breser | Ohh I see the double names now. |
| 18:33.06 | user8989345 | and i dont have a clue why |
| 18:34.54 | user8989345 | can anybody help me with it? |
| 18:35.18 | breser | Any idea how long until the Chinese get 2.4.3? |
| 18:35.26 | breser | I assume the Europeans got it today? |
| 18:35.31 | kaiden | wants a quest watcher addon that psychicly knows which quests iw ant to watch |
| 18:35.31 | user8989345 | right |
| 18:35.37 | kaiden | nevcairiel, you can do that can't ya? :p |
| 18:35.39 | user8989345 | thats why my cartographer isnt working any more |
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| 18:39.32 | nevcairiel | breser: tomorrow |
| 18:39.37 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 18:39.45 | nevcairiel | at least the other asians get it tomorrow |
| 18:39.48 | nevcairiel | not sure about china |
| 18:40.01 | breser | So safe ripping pre 2.4.3 code tomorrow? |
| 18:42.43 | nevcairiel | I suppose |
| 18:42.48 | nevcairiel | i generally rip stuff today already :P |
| 18:45.00 | CIA-45 | 03ulic * r78574 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: |
| 18:45.00 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: BlackMorass |
| 18:45.00 | CIA-45 | - Removed old triggers & event registrations |
| 18:45.00 | CIA-45 | - Changed back to old profile references |
| 18:45.00 | CIA-45 | - Added bars and clearing of bars for Hasten & Frenzy |
| 18:45.06 | CIA-45 | 03Copystring * r78575 10YurrCombatLog/ (Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 18:45.06 | CIA-45 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 18:45.06 | CIA-45 | - Update for nature+shadow damage (drycoded) |
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| 18:45.46 | copystring | the mobs in sunwell are the only ones that deal nature+shadow damage? |
| 18:46.04 | copystring | my guild doesnt raid sunwell yet, but i would like to test it |
| 18:48.16 | kaiden | needs a good casual guild that he can transfer servers to |
| 18:48.16 | kaiden | :( |
| 18:49.35 | Industrial | ah yes, the myth of the existance of a casual guild that goes places :p |
| 18:50.08 | kagaro | anyone an enchanter? |
| 18:51.59 | Zhinjio | Industrial: I'm in one. *shrug* |
| 18:52.08 | kaiden | industrial, my old guild did :) |
| 18:52.12 | kaiden | i just got sick of raiding |
| 18:52.21 | kaiden | the guild i'm looking for doesn't exist |
| 18:52.25 | Zhinjio | 65% casual raiders |
| 18:52.34 | kaiden | i'm looking for a guild that will let me raid on what char i want when i want haha |
| 18:52.46 | kaiden | pipedream, i know :P |
| 18:52.48 | Hjalte | I like the new soulwell animations :) |
| 18:54.55 | Zhinjio | we do define mains/alts and you can sign up on whomever you want ... looting priority goes to mains. |
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| 19:04.09 | sb | mh - clockfu doesnt work with fortress :/ |
| 19:06.29 | ag` | sb, you mean fubar2broker? |
| 19:06.39 | sb | well yes ;) |
| 19:06.55 | ag` | it errors? |
| 19:07.08 | sb | no, doesnt show up at all |
| 19:07.09 | copystring | sb, why not use Broker_Clock? |
| 19:07.38 | sb | copystring: because it doesnt support the new blizzard stopwatch :p |
| 19:08.02 | copystring | ah right :p |
| 19:10.04 | NeoTron | is to competetive to stand raiding with casual "I only raid when I want to" players. |
| 19:10.13 | NeoTron | ofc in SWP that'd be a pretty good killing blow |
| 19:10.45 | NeoTron | and I've been in a guild like that and it was horrible. couldn't even field more than 35 ppl for AQ40 btu had 50+ for naxxramas |
| 19:11.47 | AckisWork | aq40 was terrible |
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| 19:18.10 | NeoTron | doesn't matter really |
| 19:18.36 | NeoTron | the point it a guild where people only show up if they personally feel like they have something to gain sucks |
| 19:18.40 | NeoTron | and progress slowly |
| 19:19.10 | NeoTron | back when I was in this guild pre-bc they were 5 into Naxx. Not sure how they got but alas. Now they are stuck not being able to progress into Sunwell and took a very long time to clear BT |
| 19:20.11 | NeoTron | WTB Revert of oRA2/Loot to the version that worked vs the current one that does not. |
| 19:20.12 | AckisWork | hasn't shown up to a raid since we killed KJ and I got loot |
| 19:20.20 | CIA-45 | 03cremor * r78576 10Libramswapper/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:20.20 | CIA-45 | Libramswapper: |
| 19:20.20 | CIA-45 | - Updated for 2.4.3. Removed all swapping actions for Holy Light and Flash of Light, only swapping after instant casts will work now. |
| 19:20.20 | CIA-45 | - Added option to disable swapping of Libram of Grace. |
| 19:20.46 | cremor | i hate 2.4.3... |
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| 19:21.06 | ckknight | did someone ban sag_ich_nicht? |
| 19:21.07 | Diao | what did 2.4.3 ever do to you? |
| 19:21.08 | NeoTron | AckisWork: you have a reason not to go but the point is, if you're in a raiding guild (serious one) you show up regardless of content |
| 19:21.28 | Diao | i'm in a casual guild that doesn't enforce attendance |
| 19:21.31 | NeoTron | and amazingly enough, having made a DKP system to combat the type of behavior I had seen before, my guild is very different |
| 19:21.46 | Diao | but most people are at least dedicated enough to show at every raid |
| 19:21.51 | NeoTron | we have issues not on easy loot days but on progression days and wit issues I mean wehave to many people on standby it's hard to decide on groups |
| 19:22.07 | Diao | do you announce what raids you'll be going to beforehand for the week? |
| 19:22.12 | cremor | Diao, it makes swapping librams while casting impossible |
| 19:22.12 | Diao | or are they pre-scheduled |
| 19:22.16 | NeoTron | Diao: "SWP SWP SWP SWP" |
| 19:22.18 | NeoTron | not too hard |
| 19:22.18 | AckisWork | NeoTron: I know, I was at 99.9% attendance before I stopped raiding |
| 19:22.21 | Diao | oh |
| 19:22.28 | Diao | and people just don't show for it? |
| 19:22.40 | AckisWork | back in the AQ/BWL days we'd pull tricks... say we're doing BWL, everyone would show up at BWL then we'd all head to AQ40 |
| 19:22.44 | NeoTron | but beforehand we kind of had a mostly set schedule and people reallly like progression. it's refreshing |
| 19:22.48 | Diao | yeah |
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| 19:22.59 | Diao | i run the guild so every raid night i'm like |
| 19:23.01 | ashb | so where does ClearFont2 store its font settings? |
| 19:23.03 | Diao | invites go out |
| 19:23.13 | Diao | then i decide where to go, 15 min before raid time |
| 19:23.16 | Diao | that way people have no excuse to back out |
| 19:23.42 | Diao | granted we're only starting bt/mh as of now |
| 19:23.45 | Diao | but we raid mostly for fun |
| 19:23.49 | sacarasc | i wish my guild was still raiding :( |
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| 19:24.45 | NeoTron | we had some issues early on in SWP but that wasn't bc ppl didn't want to go but because ppl left completely for other reasons |
| 19:25.01 | NeoTron | Age of Conan for example (rotflcopter - bet they are happy now) |
| 19:25.08 | Diao | lol aoc |
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| 19:25.40 | NeoTron | Diao: not really though it was "RL reasons" |
| 19:25.52 | Diao | yeah |
| 19:26.07 | NeoTron | on vashj we had this elemental shaman who was our kiter |
| 19:26.25 | Diao | hmm |
| 19:26.34 | NeoTron | who started having this cyber affair with another guild member more than 2x his age but regardless he sat us up to go cyber with her alt in BRD |
| 19:26.39 | Diao | i wish we had a shaman for that |
| 19:26.45 | Diao | kiting i mean, not cyber |
| 19:26.47 | NeoTron | the week after he got his tier item from vashj |
| 19:27.04 | NeoTron | and we asked him very nicely in fact to please help us but he had more important stuff to do |
| 19:27.21 | NeoTron | they are useful for it but not required |
| 19:27.29 | NeoTron | we've done it successfulyl with a hunter and lock too |
| 19:27.36 | Diao | we have troubles with shaman |
| 19:27.43 | Diao | until i got a RL friend to play and roll a shaman |
| 19:27.54 | nevcairiel | we always had a lock do it |
| 19:27.56 | Diao | every single shaman that joined us either never showed up to raid, ever |
| 19:28.04 | Diao | or quit within a few days for no reason really |
| 19:28.07 | Diao | they're all flakes |
| 19:28.21 | Diao | so we powered a friend to 70 and decked her out |
| 19:28.26 | Diao | just so we could have at least 1 shaman for wf for rogues |
| 19:28.33 | Diao | and she's even resto |
| 19:28.42 | Diao | so no enh buffs :( |
| 19:28.58 | NeoTron | we've had a long and funny roud with shamans |
| 19:29.10 | NeoTron | having 1 one week, then 5, then 2, then 6.. :P |
| 19:29.14 | Diao | lol |
| 19:29.24 | Diao | we have... |
| 19:29.24 | Diao | 9 priests that are active |
| 19:29.31 | Diao | none were recruited.. all are just friends of guildies |
| 19:29.36 | Diao | it was weird taking 9 priests to bt |
| 19:30.25 | Aiiane | o_O |
| 19:30.37 | Diao | 5 holy and 4 shadow |
| 19:30.37 | Diao | lol |
| 19:31.29 | CIA-45 | 03jncl * r78577 10Skinner/ (5 files): |
| 19:31.29 | CIA-45 | Skinner: Bugfixes for patch 2.4.3 |
| 19:31.29 | CIA-45 | - Skinned TimeManager frame and added an option for it |
| 19:31.29 | CIA-45 | - Updated HelpFrame and merged KnowledgeBase Frame into it |
| 19:33.02 | Diao | our raid makeups are so strange since we just kind of take whoever's on with a little bit of allowance for requirements |
| 19:33.13 | Diao | like a couple OTs, however many healers |
| 19:36.05 | Aiiane | somewhat similar situation for us |
| 19:36.15 | Aiiane | We've had 8+ druid raids before |
| 19:36.43 | Aiiane | 4+ lifeblooms on a MT is interesting |
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| 19:49.24 | aestil | is forest track helm > than the T6 sunwell engineering helm? |
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| 19:52.50 | CIA-45 | 03jayrox * r78578 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/Localization.lua: |
| 19:52.50 | CIA-45 | FuBar_VampwatchFu: |
| 19:52.50 | CIA-45 | - Updated frFR localization, thanks Afad on wowinterface |
| 19:56.08 | Arrowmaster | sb: Fubar2Broker only works with FBP-2.0 stuff afaik |
| 19:56.41 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: what came of your string.format adventure last night? |
| 19:56.46 | NivFreak | did you find a real problem? |
| 19:57.02 | NeoTron | FBPMod3.0 doesn't work with the ace2 version of fubar either |
| 19:58.42 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: only possible problem found was that you get different results if you use a number larger than 2^32 depending on x86 or ppc |
| 19:59.08 | Arrowmaster | i still havent actually logged in since the patch and ive been wanting to test the fontstring:SetFormatedText() function |
| 19:59.26 | Arrowmaster | to see what they did |
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| 20:00.24 | Arrowmaster | wondering if they just sent it to printf or sent to the the C funtion that handles string.format |
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| 20:04.32 | NivFreak | so threat is randomly broken? :) |
| 20:04.44 | NivFreak | our folks seemed to have no real issues in ZA last night |
| 20:04.51 | NivFreak | aside from failing at bear mount |
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| 20:11.26 | sylvanaar | i wonder if i am going to get in trouble for running wow under the debugger |
| 20:12.01 | Arrowmaster | what are you trying to do? |
| 20:12.27 | sylvanaar | find where they linked the lua library into the client |
| 20:12.33 | ckknight | outside of AceGUI, are there other gui config-oriented libraries? |
| 20:12.51 | [Ammo] | tek has some stuff |
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| 20:13.13 | [Ammo] | and your own rock stuff ofcourse :) |
| 20:13.46 | Tekkub | tek's stuff is just lua-ified versions of the XML templates blue provides |
| 20:13.59 | [Ammo] | yeah, but it's technically an upgrading lib like thing |
| 20:14.00 | [Ammo] | isn't it? |
| 20:14.02 | Tekkub | since I hate naming frames that don't need names |
| 20:14.19 | [Ammo] | widgetwarlock ors umthing |
| 20:14.22 | Tekkub | technically yes, but I rarely actually change them :) |
| 20:14.28 | Tekkub | WW is dead |
| 20:14.33 | Tekkub | long like tekKonfig |
| 20:14.36 | Tekkub | :) |
| 20:14.37 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 20:14.49 | Tekkub | WW became tK really |
| 20:15.40 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: ping |
| 20:17.10 | ckknight | well, basically, for Cart3, I ended up doing a very simplistic config system |
| 20:17.11 | Primer | this is fucked up, ever since the patch, pulling up the enchanting dialog kills wow running under wine |
| 20:17.15 | ckknight | I'm considering libifying it |
| 20:17.44 | NeoTron | So if you wear an Eye of Divinity next to Paris Hilton you'll see a surprise |
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| 20:18.12 | NeoTron | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19719 |
| 20:19.27 | Primer | oh, it was just some huge delay |
| 20:20.00 | Nechckn | NeoTron LOL |
| 20:20.44 | aestil | does cart 3 have instance loot yet? |
| 20:20.58 | NeoTron | how someone detected uit I don't know but it's rather funny imho |
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| 20:22.32 | aedaemoen | hey guys, just curious... anyone here happen to have a working dl link for qh? seems to have been updated but all of the links are broken :\ |
| 20:22.39 | ckknight | aestil: that'll be in v0.9 |
| 20:22.50 | aedaemoen | nvm... seems i finally got a working one |
| 20:22.50 | ckknight | aedaemoen: Curse's should work |
| 20:22.51 | aedaemoen | :-D |
| 20:22.58 | aedaemoen | ckknight, it was timing out for a while |
| 20:23.07 | ckknight | yea, Kaelten's been working on it |
| 20:23.28 | aedaemoen | kaelten works for curse? or is the maintainer of qh? |
| 20:23.36 | ckknight | Kaelten and I work for curse |
| 20:23.39 | aedaemoen | ahhh |
| 20:23.41 | aedaemoen | didnt know that :) |
| 20:23.42 | aedaemoen | cool |
| 20:23.53 | ckknight | aestil: currently we're at v0.7.2, v0.8 will be generic notes system, v0.9 will be instance notes and loot |
| 20:24.24 | aestil | your real job is really cutting into the speed at which you develop addons :) |
| 20:24.39 | ckknight | truth |
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| 20:25.04 | aedaemoen | curse a freelance thing or an actual establishment? |
| 20:25.12 | aedaemoen | ( for you and K i mean ) |
| 20:25.16 | ckknight | actual establishment |
| 20:25.19 | ckknight | we have an office and everything |
| 20:25.23 | aedaemoen | sweet :) |
| 20:26.03 | aedaemoen | have you guys been there the whole time? or get brought on because of how many addons you deal with, lol |
| 20:26.04 | aestil | what is qh? |
| 20:26.11 | aedaemoen | qh = questhelper |
| 20:26.18 | aestil | what is it? |
| 20:26.23 | aestil | nquestlog? |
| 20:26.24 | ckknight | aedaemoen: since February for me |
| 20:26.26 | NeoTron | a helper for questing |
| 20:26.26 | aestil | or lightheaded? |
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| 20:26.32 | NeoTron | it tells you where to go to best do your quests |
| 20:26.40 | NeoTron | basically "shortest path" between quest objectives |
| 20:26.42 | aestil | so, like lightheaded then? |
| 20:26.43 | aedaemoen | ckknight, awesome. was gonna say, didnt remember you being with them last year when i hung out in here :) |
| 20:26.45 | ckknight | aedaemoen: Kaelten's been here for a year more than me |
| 20:26.48 | NeoTron | somewhere between lightheaded and tourguide |
| 20:26.53 | aestil | hmm. |
| 20:26.57 | aedaemoen | tourguide? |
| 20:26.59 | aedaemoen | goes to google |
| 20:27.01 | NeoTron | like it puts up waypoints etc |
| 20:27.10 | NeoTron | tourguide is a "guided tour" of quests to do in a zone |
| 20:27.27 | NeoTron | it also tells you what quests to pick up (and skip granted it assume you solo) |
| 20:27.34 | aedaemoen | .... |
| 20:27.34 | Kaelten | ckknight: more than |
| 20:27.44 | ckknight | yea, I dunno when you came here |
| 20:27.50 | Kaelten | forever.... :s |
| 20:27.52 | Kaelten | erm |
| 20:28.01 | ckknight | Kaelten's curse's longest lasting employee |
| 20:28.02 | aedaemoen | in other words, its qh on steroids for the even more lazy gamer? |
| 20:28.06 | aedaemoen | wow |
| 20:28.32 | aedaemoen | what kind of servers is curse running, lin or win? |
| 20:28.45 | aedaemoen | could find out but is lazy today |
| 20:29.38 | ckknight | linux currently |
| 20:29.46 | ckknight | we're moving to windows with the cursev6 rewrite |
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| 20:30.01 | aedaemoen | ewww. moving away from linux? |
| 20:30.09 | ckknight | yea, v6 is .NET-based |
| 20:30.09 | aedaemoen | why in the world would you guys want to move to windows, lol |
| 20:30.09 | breser | Why would you do that? |
| 20:30.10 | AckisWork | Kaelten lasts long rawr |
| 20:30.14 | aedaemoen | ahh |
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| 20:30.23 | aedaemoen | and im guessing youre using the 2 or 3 .net api |
| 20:30.33 | ckknight | it's based on Community Server |
| 20:30.34 | aedaemoen | so you cant replicate it using mono without alot of extra tweaks to the packages |
| 20:30.37 | ckknight | and I believe .NET 3.5 |
| 20:30.43 | aedaemoen | yeah, so no mono |
| 20:30.57 | aedaemoen | mono i think finally supports 2 but still working on 3, i stopped caring about .net a while ago |
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| 20:31.07 | ckknight | also, my supervisor is comfortable with windows servers |
| 20:31.09 | aedaemoen | how are you guys handling the LB between the clusters? |
| 20:31.20 | ckknight | I'm really not sure, but I know there's a plan for it |
| 20:31.26 | ckknight | I'm not really the sysadmin, just a coder |
| 20:31.29 | aedaemoen | ahh |
| 20:31.30 | NeoTron | aedaemoen: it's different though. QH just sort of does some sort of shortest path between quest objectives |
| 20:31.39 | NeoTron | while tourguide is more of a manually designed power level guide |
| 20:31.48 | aedaemoen | NeoTron, yeah, but one thing that already turns me away from tourguide |
| 20:31.59 | aedaemoen | it flat out says on the website that if you use cartographer, tough shit if it doesnt work |
| 20:32.08 | aedaemoen | because he only supports tomtom |
| 20:32.23 | aedaemoen | and with the major improvements in C3, not so sure id be willing to switch away |
| 20:32.46 | NeoTron | err. afaik it can use either tomtom or cart waypoints |
| 20:32.59 | NeoTron | or maybe I'm mixing it up with QH |
| 20:34.03 | aedaemoen | NeoTron, it "works" with carto, but f it breaks, dont bother him |
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| 20:34.18 | aedaemoen | Note: Cartographer is not officially supported, only TomTom is⦠so if you have Carto issues, donât expect me to fix them. |
| 20:34.22 | aedaemoen | as taken straight from the webpage |
| 20:35.21 | harl|moo | i just got this weird behaviour with pitbull.. everytime a 5th player joined my party, the 5th player of the party (whoever it was) wouldn't show as a unit frame, but instead 2 black (or dark grey) bars showed at different positions, in think one was at the target and the other at the mouseover frame, overlapping those. |
| 20:35.28 | NeoTron | Mapster/TomTom is more of a lightweight package for my needs |
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| 20:35.41 | harl|moo | i had to reloadui and that behavious was gone |
| 20:35.50 | harl|moo | *behaviour |
| 20:35.58 | aedaemoen | can tomtom track mining, herbalism, etc? |
| 20:36.19 | harl|moo | yet i wonder what i or another add-on did to pitbull that it went like that |
| 20:36.59 | ckknight | aedaemoen: not to my knowledge. Some people recommend GatherMate |
| 20:37.10 | ckknight | aedaemoen: note: GatherMate works with Cartographer3 |
| 20:37.14 | ckknight | so does Gatherer, etc. |
| 20:37.16 | sb | bah i hate arena |
| 20:37.28 | sb | every f****** rogue wants to play with druid |
| 20:37.32 | sb | because its easy-mode :/ |
| 20:37.33 | harl|moo | i hate pvp. so there you go. |
| 20:37.35 | NivFreak | ckknight: your pan to current location functionality in cart3 makes me seasick if I've moved very far between opening it :) |
| 20:37.47 | aedaemoen | ckknight, nods. I was looking at tomtom only because of tourguide, my fiance is brand new to wow, so tourguide might be good for her for now |
| 20:37.48 | ckknight | NivFreak: soz |
| 20:38.03 | ckknight | aedaemoen: I like QuestHelper :-P |
| 20:38.14 | aedaemoen | nods, i have yet to have any issues with it |
| 20:38.16 | aedaemoen | and shes done ok |
| 20:38.19 | NivFreak | ckknight: it sucks waiting 6 seconds to see where I am on the map? |
| 20:38.27 | ckknight | 2 seconds. |
| 20:38.29 | aedaemoen | shes actually passed me (but of course, she also has free time all day long, lol ) |
| 20:38.40 | NivFreak | ckknight: hyperbole of course, still to slow :) |
| 20:38.47 | NivFreak | it's fine if it's a small shift in the zone |
| 20:38.50 | ckknight | NivFreak: open Constants.lua and change the number |
| 20:38.54 | NivFreak | but when it's like netherstorm to nagrand |
| 20:38.56 | ckknight | I'll make it an option one day |
| 20:38.57 | NivFreak | it's dizzying |
| 20:39.07 | NivFreak | meh, I yanked it out |
| 20:39.21 | NivFreak | the version in git was broken when I pulled it, the snapshot from curseforge broke |
| 20:39.29 | NivFreak | and I have no mac updater that plays well with your shit |
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| 20:39.44 | NivFreak | (snapshot broke when 2.4.3 hit) |
| 20:39.50 | ckknight | I fixed that bug |
| 20:39.54 | NivFreak | yes |
| 20:40.06 | NivFreak | but I will never go back to the days of downloading individual addons again |
| 20:40.06 | ckknight | like 10 minutes after the servers came up |
| 20:40.09 | Diao | lol |
| 20:40.13 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:40.14 | NivFreak | ever |
| 20:40.27 | Diao | i need an updater that works with git |
| 20:40.29 | Diao | :( |
| 20:40.32 | NivFreak | that aside, I think you're headed in a good direction with cart3 |
| 20:40.47 | NivFreak | Diao: it doesn't help when the shit in ck's git repository is broken ;) |
| 20:40.51 | Diao | lol |
| 20:40.52 | ckknight | NivFreak: if you have suggestions, ticketing them is extremely useful for me |
| 20:40.58 | ckknight | how is my git repo broken? |
| 20:41.00 | ckknight | it should work fine |
| 20:41.02 | vithos | Diao: me too. |
| 20:41.13 | NivFreak | when I pulled it, it was spewing errors |
| 20:41.15 | NivFreak | in wow |
| 20:41.17 | aedaemoen | why does everyone seem to be abandoning svn these days |
| 20:41.29 | NivFreak | aedaemoen: they worship linus |
| 20:41.29 | ckknight | aedaemoen: for the way I work, svn is suboptimal |
| 20:41.31 | sylvanaar | they arent, git is trendy |
| 20:41.40 | aedaemoen | ckknight, how so? |
| 20:41.55 | aedaemoen | i havent dealt a whole lot with git yet, svn ive got at least 15 projects im maintaining, lol |
| 20:42.07 | NivFreak | you can play with git2svn |
| 20:42.08 | NivFreak | if you want |
| 20:42.08 | aedaemoen | and i almost always use trac for ticketing because it ties in perfectly with the repo browsing features |
| 20:42.09 | NeoTron | aedaemoen: gathermate for tracking, HandyNotes for notes but I don't use notes in the world of LH/QH/etc |
| 20:42.10 | ckknight | I prefer git's distribution compared to svn's centralization. I like that people can clone and hack on their own local copy and send me a patch. I like the merging and branching a lot better |
| 20:42.21 | aedaemoen | ahhh |
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| 20:42.43 | NeoTron | let's just say that with Tourguide my 7yo daughter managed to quest herself to level 5 as a new dwarf |
| 20:42.44 | aedaemoen | think i may have to look into git, though is there a cms out for it yet that can compare to trac? |
| 20:43.02 | ckknight | aedaemoen: for wow-based stuff or other stuff? |
| 20:43.06 | NivFreak | what's the other trendy leveling addon now |
| 20:43.07 | aedaemoen | general :) |
| 20:43.09 | NivFreak | chromsomething? |
| 20:43.16 | ckknight | look at github or gitorious |
| 20:43.27 | aedaemoen | nods. |
| 20:44.20 | NivFreak | oh |
| 20:44.22 | NivFreak | it's carbonite |
| 20:44.26 | ckknight | aedaemoen: for wow-based stuff, there's always curseforge :-P |
| 20:44.26 | NivFreak | NeoTron: have you tried carbonite? |
| 20:44.30 | ckknight | down with carbonite! |
| 20:44.36 | ckknight | I shall destroy it soon enough... |
| 20:44.39 | NivFreak | people seme to love it |
| 20:44.42 | ckknight | makes an evil grin |
| 20:44.45 | NivFreak | I haven't tried it |
| 20:44.53 | ckknight | NivFreak: Cart3 is already more popular on curse :-P |
| 20:44.56 | ckknight | which I find funny |
| 20:45.15 | aedaemoen | carbonite? |
| 20:45.20 | ckknight | carbonite quest |
| 20:45.29 | ckknight | it's like a map addon + quest helper dealy in one |
| 20:45.29 | NivFreak | probably because most people get it from http://www.carboniteaddon.com/ |
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| 20:46.02 | Diao | game industry veterans... |
| 20:46.10 | ckknight | NivFreak: they host on wowi and curse for Carbonite Quest |
| 20:46.14 | ckknight | so they'd come to curse anyway |
| 20:46.18 | ckknight | (or WoWI) |
| 20:46.19 | Diao | and charging for it.. |
| 20:46.20 | Nechckn | power to the freebies!!! |
| 20:46.26 | Stanzilla | go buy http://cartographer.com/ |
| 20:46.36 | ckknight | lol |
| 20:46.39 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.40 | ckknight | I don't plan on selling cart3 |
| 20:47.00 | ckknight | also, carbonite is closed source, for-pay, horribly cpu and memory intensive |
| 20:47.00 | NivFreak | 214,050 + 322,279 downloads for carbonite |
| 20:47.17 | NivFreak | I haven't used it |
| 20:47.18 | NivFreak | I was just asking |
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| 20:47.29 | Diao | sounds like another wowecon type deal |
| 20:47.41 | ckknight | as far as the popularity thing is concerned, I was going by daily average, not total |
| 20:47.44 | Nechckn | Basically Diao |
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| 20:47.57 | Diao | I can't imagine people paying for addons, but then people have paid for worse.. |
| 20:48.22 | Nechckn | Ha... look at some of the games people actually pay for... |
| 20:48.30 | Nechckn | and, worse, as you say. |
| 20:48.37 | sylvanaar | ulitmately though, thats sad. there should be room for people to produce addons to earn a living |
| 20:49.01 | Bibi | oh yeah, I wish someone had such a great idea |
| 20:49.04 | sylvanaar | then again, i write software for a living |
| 20:49.25 | ckknight | yea, but the landscape doesn't really adhere to it, and lua's open source nature hinders it quite a lot |
| 20:49.35 | Nechckn | there is room- it just has to be something worthwhile -and- well done. |
| 20:50.09 | sylvanaar | there is community bias towards anyone making money |
| 20:50.19 | Nechckn | I've paid for quite a few addons well, donated |
| 20:50.21 | sylvanaar | or even the perception therof |
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| 20:51.37 | Nechckn | sylvanaar the whole "open source" movement is much the same |
| 20:52.04 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I have not, didn't know there was such a thing |
| 20:52.14 | sylvanaar | i recall the ads in wau, and ckk's donate button - both caused bitch fests |
| 20:52.15 | Nechckn | I'm sure some psychologist could have a field day with many of these issues |
| 20:52.34 | aedaemoen | :-D |
| 20:52.38 | ckknight | my donate buttons are hardly intrusive, also |
| 20:52.52 | aedaemoen | Nechckn, been there done that one, i love studying psychological trends and movements :-d |
| 20:53.02 | ckknight | and really, wau causes a lot of bandwidth usage, who do you think pays for that? bandwidth's not free |
| 20:53.16 | NivFreak | Diao: I don't think anyone actually uses the pay version |
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| 20:53.24 | aedaemoen | now the one thing im curious about with wau vs wowmatrix... |
| 20:53.34 | aedaemoen | wau was supposed to be abe to work on all addons, right? |
| 20:53.43 | ckknight | wau is supposed to work with just wowace's |
| 20:53.48 | aedaemoen | nods |
| 20:53.54 | Primer | Firefox can't find the server at trac.wowace.com |
| 20:53.58 | aedaemoen | thought i had read a while back that it was meant to work with any addon |
| 20:54.16 | Primer | while trying to hit this URL: http://www.wowace.com/trac/query?group=status&verbose=1&summary=%7EPitBull&order=priority |
| 20:54.16 | sylvanaar | there was going to be a wau2 once, but that guy disappeared |
| 20:54.30 | ckknight | wasn't that you? |
| 20:54.31 | NivFreak | jwu will grab addons from curse/wowui/wowint |
| 20:54.40 | Primer | jwu > wau |
| 20:54.45 | NivFreak | yep |
| 20:54.55 | aedaemoen | jwu ? |
| 20:54.57 | sylvanaar | no, his name was...um...karlthepagan |
| 20:55.01 | NivFreak | ~jwu |
| 20:55.01 | purl | JWowUpdater is a java based tool for updating your World of Warcraft addons. http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=5917 |
| 20:55.01 | Primer | jwowupdater |
| 20:55.15 | NivFreak | works great |
| 20:55.21 | aedaemoen | and is better than wau? |
| 20:55.37 | NivFreak | imo |
| 20:55.42 | aedaemoen | i would love to know how in the hell a java program is greater than a non java program |
| 20:55.47 | aedaemoen | HATES java |
| 20:55.53 | NivFreak | I hate java as well |
| 20:55.55 | Primer | ckknight: so...thoughts on that? Following "the bugtracker" link on http://www.wowace.com/wiki/PitBull leads to a page where the hostname is not found |
| 20:55.56 | NivFreak | so consider that |
| 20:56.11 | Primer | aedaemoen: do you not hate .NET even more? |
| 20:56.15 | sylvanaar | pprovost wrote wau back in like 10/06, and i took it over a couple months later |
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| 20:56.32 | Primer | wau was seg faulting the .net runtime like mad when I discovered jwu |
| 20:56.32 | aedaemoen | Primer, yes, i do. But not all things .net are crappy sadly |
| 20:56.42 | aedaemoen | i wish i could justify it and say that all .net is shit :-D |
| 20:56.49 | NivFreak | aedaemoen: the same could be said for java apps, just 99.9% of them suck |
| 20:56.54 | aedaemoen | .... |
| 20:57.05 | aedaemoen | NivFreak, yeah. 99.9999999999999999999999999999% of them |
| 20:57.15 | NivFreak | agreed |
| 20:57.28 | NivFreak | the more someone is paid to write them, the more they suclk |
| 20:57.30 | Primer | aedaemoen: well, I've yet to see jwu crash the java runtime...so, jwu > wau |
| 20:57.30 | NivFreak | suck |
| 20:57.34 | NivFreak | see oracle's installer for proof |
| 20:57.42 | aedaemoen | but one of the reasons i hate java... try running java applications in a 64 bit linux environment when sun STILL has not released a truly compatable damned jre/jvm |
| 20:57.52 | Primer | NivFreak: heh, the oracle installer works |
| 20:57.57 | sylvanaar | i really dont know why certain people have such a hard time running wau, they also dont submit good bug reports, just bitch alot |
| 20:58.12 | Primer | aedaemoen: I'm using 64 eclipse on Linux as we speak |
| 20:58.15 | Primer | runs fine |
| 20:58.22 | aedaemoen | Primer, yes, some applications work fine. |
| 20:58.24 | Primer | 64 bit eclipse, that is |
| 20:58.28 | aedaemoen | which version of the jre are you running btw. |
| 20:58.34 | Primer | sun's :) |
| 20:58.36 | aedaemoen | 1.6 or the iced tea branch which is 1.7 |
| 20:58.37 | Primer | on fedora |
| 20:58.45 | Primer | because icedtea is crap |
| 20:58.48 | aedaemoen | .... and again... 1.6 or the 1.7 iced tea |
| 20:58.52 | aedaemoen | so youre running 1.6 |
| 20:58.54 | Primer | yes |
| 20:59.13 | aedaemoen | guess you dont know much about the fact that you cant run applets in the 64 bit environment without installing the 32 bit jre ;) |
| 20:59.15 | Primer | 1.6.0.03, specifically (because anything newer breaks eclipse) |
| 20:59.32 | Primer | aedaemoen: heh, I never said I was running 64 bit firefox :) |
| 20:59.36 | sylvanaar | there is no browser addin for 64 bit jre |
| 20:59.57 | Primer | sylvanaar: there is one in icedtea |
| 21:00.01 | aedaemoen | sylvanaar, its not limited to browsers |
| 21:00.06 | profalbert | iced tea java works |
| 21:00.07 | aedaemoen | it is webstart and browser issues |
| 21:00.10 | aedaemoen | and yes, iced tea works |
| 21:00.17 | Primer | profalbert: mostly, but not for everything |
| 21:00.20 | aedaemoen | iced tea is the 1.7 release in which 64 bit is truly suppported |
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| 21:00.26 | Primer | we have this remote KVM applet where it doesn't work |
| 21:00.28 | Primer | avocent |
| 21:00.30 | aedaemoen | however, iced tea is not in a fully stable state yet ;) |
| 21:00.33 | aedaemoen | bwahahaha |
| 21:00.36 | aedaemoen | i love avocent :-D |
| 21:00.37 | profalbert | haven't encountered any issues with iced tea yet |
| 21:00.46 | Primer | which is the ONLY reason I use 32 bit firefox at the moment |
| 21:00.54 | aedaemoen | im on an avocent amx5111 right now through an amx5010 matrix |
| 21:01.12 | Primer | yeah, it's good stuff |
| 21:01.57 | sylvanaar | when i downloaded FF, there was no 64 bit option |
| 21:02.47 | Primer | you have to use icedtea |
| 21:02.55 | Primer | it's the only current jvm with a 64 bit plugin |
| 21:03.03 | Primer | browser plugin, that is |
| 21:03.13 | Primer | icedtea is what ships with fedora 8/9 |
| 21:03.16 | NivFreak | 64bit firefox is fucked in so many ways if you use addons |
| 21:03.32 | profalbert | is there a 64bit firefox3? |
| 21:03.40 | Primer | of course there is |
| 21:03.52 | Primer | not sure about windows... |
| 21:03.57 | Primer | but for Linux there surely is |
| 21:04.11 | Primer | Firefox can't find the server at trac.wowace.com. <--- Thoughts? |
| 21:04.15 | Primer | trying to report a bug |
| 21:05.05 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78579 10StatBlockCore/ (StatBlockCore.lua StatBlockCore.toc): StatBlockCore: changed tooltiptext usage |
| 21:08.30 | Industrial | thought: im bored |
| 21:08.50 | NivFreak | Primer: someone failed |
| 21:08.56 | aedaemoen | as for 64 bit F3 on linux... yeah, dont go there right now |
| 21:09.28 | Primer | several people here at work are using it just fine |
| 21:09.55 | aedaemoen | Primer, the actual 64 bit using the nspluginwrapper or the 32 bit on a 64 bt machine ;) |
| 21:10.25 | Primer | the former |
| 21:10.36 | Primer | I do the latter, simply because of avocent |
| 21:12.36 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r78580 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: |
| 21:12.36 | CIA-45 | LittleWigs: |
| 21:12.36 | CIA-45 | - typo fix, (luac -p) |
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| 21:18.57 | CIA-45 | 03jncl * r78581 10Skinner/Skinner.lua: Skinner: Bugfix for Addon loading issue, caused by r 78577 |
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| 21:27.26 | Arrowmaster | Primer: wow that 'the bugtracker' link is so damn old im question if we still had trac when pitbull was made |
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| 21:32.24 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r78582 10HealGraph/ (Graph.lua HealGraph.lua HealGraph.toc): |
| 21:32.24 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 21:32.24 | CIA-45 | - huge code cleanup and reorganizing |
| 21:32.24 | CIA-45 | - added support for multiple heal graphs |
| 21:32.59 | CIA-45 | 03jayrox * r78583 10FuBar_VampwatchFu/ (Core.lua FuBar_VampwatchFu.toc): |
| 21:32.59 | CIA-45 | FuBar_VampwatchFu: |
| 21:32.59 | CIA-45 | - Added support for use without FuBar (standalone or broker) |
| 21:33.00 | CIA-45 | - Updated TOC to 2.4 as everything seems to work properly now. |
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| 21:33.58 | Pkekyo| | Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss Uhn Tiss <--- greatest song title of all time |
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| 21:35.37 | Stanzilla | not. |
| 21:36.14 | Pkekyo| | captain obvious strikes again :p |
| 21:38.01 | Megalon | l2bloodhoundgang |
| 21:39.04 | Pkekyo| | Uhn tiss uhn tiss uhn tiss baby |
| 21:39.40 | kaiden | woot about to do ubrs for the first time in 2 years |
| 21:39.40 | kaiden | :P |
| 21:41.19 | Pkekyo| | kaiden: get with the programme |
| 21:41.26 | Pkekyo| | I've been farming valor for months now :pø |
| 21:41.28 | Pkekyo| | :p |
| 21:45.25 | thul | licks Pkekyo| |
| 21:46.47 | Pkekyo| | feels violated |
| 21:47.15 | Zhinjio | is there a listing somewhere of spellids? |
| 21:47.42 | Pkekyo| | wowhead |
| 21:47.50 | Pkekyo| | just search for spell name, the spellid is in the URL |
| 21:49.10 | aestil | nevcairiel: thank you for fixing that bt4 bug |
| 21:49.49 | aestil | why does my pet have glancing attacks against equal level mobs? |
| 21:51.45 | Zhinjio | ok, why doesn't wowhead list spells that open chests |
| 21:51.48 | aestil | also, should i train bite as well as gore? |
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| 21:53.07 | Zhinjio | further SPELLCAST_SENT doesn't provide spellids, jsut spell names |
| 21:53.14 | Zhinjio | and I bet they're localized. |
| 21:53.17 | Zhinjio | this is goingto suck ass |
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| 21:53.55 | Annul[Sleep] | is there a GUI to configure bigwigs in? |
| 21:54.16 | profalbert | Annul[Sleep]: there is the dropdown-menu |
| 21:54.45 | Annul[Sleep] | how do you access this? |
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| 21:55.54 | Saroz | Anyone here using Doodle? |
| 21:56.04 | Annul[Sleep] | how do you access the dropdown menu? |
| 21:57.05 | Annul[Sleep] | ? |
| 21:58.14 | profalbert | Annul[Sleep] if you use FuBar, there is a FuBar-plugin, if not there should be a minimap-icon |
| 21:58.37 | Annul[Sleep] | alright, thank you |
| 21:58.47 | Zhinjio | where can I find translated spellnames for non-enUS clients? |
| 21:59.04 | Zhinjio | specifically for the spells "Opening" and "Disenchant" |
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| 22:04.30 | ckknight | Zhinjio: use GetSpellInfo() |
| 22:06.05 | profalbert | Zhinjio: GetSpellInfo(13262) will return the local name of the Disenchant-spell |
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| 22:16.58 | Zhinjio | thats all well and good, but I don't run a non-enUS client |
| 22:17.13 | Zhinjio | thus my question |
| 22:17.21 | Zhinjio | if that data for other clients is harvested anywhere |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-45 | 03oridan * r78584 10SpellReminder/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-45 | SpellReminder: |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-45 | - Directory Restructure. |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-45 | - FINAL FIX: stupid refreshing bars getting the better of me, should be fixed now. |
| 22:18.09 | CIA-45 | - ADD: frFR template for Trasher to edit. |
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| 22:27.51 | Arcaia | alright a question for those who know alot of addons .... wth is the addon that makes it where when you look at tradeskills in your tradeskill window, it shows you what you can make including it automaking the mats that are under it |
| 22:28.15 | SunTsu | Arcaia: Skillet |
| 22:28.16 | Arcaia | like it calculates engineering wise - if it makes X copper bolts, and X copper tubes, it can make X items |
| 22:28.20 | Arcaia | SKILLET! |
| 22:28.25 | Arcaia | Thanks so much! |
| 22:29.10 | SunTsu | Arcaia: You're welcome |
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| 22:29.51 | selckin | say i made a typo and overwrote the start of my ntfs partition with a MBR, what would be chances of recovering the data on it |
| 22:31.50 | SunTsu | selckin: Good, if nothing more is written over. Just get something like gpart that can recover partition information |
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| 22:33.42 | ZealotOnAStick | So, what's happened with nymbia the last few months? |
| 22:34.16 | NeoTron | doing the math on how fast we kill stuff in SWP we should be able to make it to M'uru's room in about 3 hrs |
| 22:34.24 | NeoTron | instead we take 4 hrs to kill kal and brut |
| 22:34.42 | selckin | we take like 1 hour to get to kal |
| 22:35.15 | selckin | SunTsu: doesn't work on 64 bit :( |
| 22:35.16 | ZealotOnAStick | We repeatedly had people noobing up Kalecgos and Twins last night. |
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| 22:37.49 | SunTsu | selckin: Then run in 32bit mode ;) |
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| 22:40.11 | Ironhand | apologies for off-topicness, does anyone happen to know whether a character retains guild affiliation through an account-to-account transfer? (same realm) |
| 22:41.22 | NeoTron | selckin: well THAT is not that ba |
| 22:41.27 | NeoTron | there's a lot of trash |
| 22:41.37 | NeoTron | Ironhand: they do not |
| 22:41.57 | Ironhand | NeoTron: ok, thank you |
| 22:44.32 | NeoTron | curious how this one lock managed to get in 6 CoD's in a 5m42s fight |
| 22:44.41 | NeoTron | although I guess I got 5 CoD's in with one being resisted |
| 22:45.40 | Ironhand | could be whatever tracked the count counts application of the debuff regardless of whether it went off? |
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| 22:51.07 | Arrowmaster | so i found a bug with AceSerializer-3.0 although i don't think youll be able to trigger it in wow |
| 22:51.49 | CIA-45 | 03pb_ee1 * r78585 10SharedMediaAdditionalFonts/ (2 files in 2 dirs): SharedMediaAdditionalFonts: Adding Accidental Presidency |
| 22:52.17 | Arrowmaster | oh wait seems you can |
| 22:52.52 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: AceSerializer-3.0 has a major logic error |
| 22:53.32 | Funkeh` | firefox update |
| 22:53.35 | Funkeh` | didn't even realise |
| 22:55.12 | Arrowmaster | so i just so happen to have a number that breaks number serialization in AceSerializer-3.0 |
| 22:55.21 | Arrowmaster | 18446744073709549568 |
| 22:55.42 | [Ammo] | easy, don't use that number :p |
| 22:55.58 | Arrowmaster | heres the kicker as to why it breaks it |
| 22:56.07 | Arrowmaster | lua> tostring(18446744073709549568) |
| 22:56.07 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1.844674407371e+19 |
| 22:56.17 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.frexp(18446744073709549568) |
| 22:56.17 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1, 64 |
| 22:57.04 | Arrowmaster | so then AceSerializer-3.0 does this |
| 22:57.12 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%.0f",1*2^53) |
| 22:57.13 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 9007199254740992 |
| 22:57.40 | Arrowmaster | hmm i guess maybe it doesnt break it |
| 22:58.11 | Arrowmaster | lua> 9007199254740992 == 1*2^53 |
| 22:58.11 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 22:58.23 | Arrowmaster | ah its safe |
| 22:58.31 | Arrowmaster | lua> 1*2^53 |
| 22:58.31 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 9.007199254741e+15 |
| 22:59.18 | CIA-45 | 03gamefaq * r78586 10Click2Cast/Click2Cast-deDE.lua: Click2Cast: Added deDE Translation |
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| 22:59.21 | Arrowmaster | -- force mantissa to become integer (it's originally 0.5--0.9999) |
| 22:59.27 | Arrowmaster | comment is just wrong |
| 23:02.20 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: is that new? http://ace.pastey.net/91420 |
| 23:02.37 | Tekkub | nope |
| 23:04.31 | Stanzilla | kk |
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| 23:07.58 | Zorkmid | gatherer doesnt work |
| 23:08.04 | Zorkmid | eve when it is only addon in play |
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| 23:15.23 | SunTsu | Zorkmid: Then switch to GatherMate |
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| 23:15.56 | NeoTron | Ironhand: that is possible |
| 23:16.14 | NeoTron | Ironhand: bingo |
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| 23:16.21 | NeoTron | WWS counts the number of applications |
| 23:16.34 | NeoTron | and then separately counts the damage as number of dots |
| 23:17.19 | NeoTron | hmm got a 10473 SB crit on Brutallus. not usual that I get that high crits nowadays. |
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| 23:17.50 | NeoTron | ironic since my first >10k crit was on Hydross back in the good ole SSC days (but with a power infusion :) |
| 23:20.04 | Arrowmaster | 10236 on Gathios the Shatterer |
| 23:20.51 | Arrowmaster | i bet i have you beat on curse of doom though |
| 23:21.48 | Arrowmaster | was something retardly high like 45k on netherspite |
| 23:22.13 | sacarasc | :o |
| 23:22.15 | NeoTron | I've had retardedly high ones too but I don't really count "odd" mobs like that :) |
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| 23:23.04 | Arrowmaster | neither do i which is why i dont have the exact number recorded |
| 23:25.57 | NeoTron | oooh that's why |
| 23:26.01 | NeoTron | we had a hunter in the group |
| 23:26.31 | chiper_ | I remember the first time i got an 10k frost bolt crit on those bog lords in ssc. my jaw hit the floor |
| 23:27.29 | Arrowmaster | i used to spam searing pain on those =D |
| 23:27.46 | chiper_ | sadly, I had to pick it up quickly after getting subsequent 8k and 7k crits and pulling aggro |
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| 23:32.52 | NeoTron | SSC was the first time I tried firelocking it out |
| 23:33.06 | NeoTron | for a significant net loss of dps but it was a fun experiment |
| 23:33.27 | Dashkal | Anybody handy with an english european client and has /dump ? |
| 23:33.28 | Daemona | is disgusted. |
| 23:33.38 | Daemona | The Muru nerf is .... weaksauce |
| 23:33.43 | Dashkal | I'd like to know what GetLocale() returns on enGB |
| 23:33.49 | Arrowmaster | enUS |
| 23:33.51 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 23:33.53 | Daemona | Dashkal i am on enGB |
| 23:33.56 | Dashkal | looking to confirm that |
| 23:33.59 | Daemona | so what do i have to do? |
| 23:34.11 | Dashkal | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.20 | Chompers | neotron, gogo link me your armory profile, i want to steal your spec |
| 23:34.22 | Arrowmaster | GetCVar("locale") should return enGB though |
| 23:34.36 | Daemona | "enUS" |
| 23:34.42 | Dashkal | Daemona: danke |
| 23:34.46 | Daemona | Bitte ;) |
| 23:34.53 | Arrowmaster | /dump GetCVar("locale") |
| 23:35.11 | NeoTron | does the new build have a new toc or still the same? |
| 23:35.19 | Daemona | Arrowmaster yup |
| 23:35.40 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: judging by the lack of 'toc bump' commits im guessing same |
| 23:35.42 | NeoTron | Chompers: I am lock tank spec (well illidan tanking), so it's not the optimal build with nether protection |
| 23:36.07 | NeoTron | http://armorylite.com/us/kilrogg/aminai |
| 23:36.15 | Daemona | our warlocks just mention they are specced "skill" when refering to Nether Protection ^^ |
| 23:36.31 | Daemona | likewise ... skill coil, cloak of skill... |
| 23:36.36 | NeoTron | http://armorylite.com/us/kilrogg/wickodemus might be more like what you want perhaps |
| 23:37.45 | NeoTron | I was going to try the addon that removes nether protection on twins |
| 23:37.46 | NeoTron | see if it works |
| 23:37.54 | NeoTron | dunno if I want to risk a wipe from it but I think I will |
| 23:37.59 | NeoTron | I really want to have Nether Protection |
| 23:38.07 | Arrowmaster | http://armorylite.com/us/burning%20legion/tokrim |
| 23:38.22 | Arrowmaster | not really optimal raid dps but its got variaty outside of raids |
| 23:39.09 | NeoTron | Lolflagrate! |
| 23:39.45 | NeoTron | are you fire dpsing? |
| 23:39.57 | Arrowmaster | i speced it when 2.4 hit, was a lot easyer to solo with than 0/21/40 shadowbolting |
| 23:40.39 | Arrowmaster | actually i havent tried fire in raids recently |
| 23:40.43 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 23:40.55 | Arrowmaster | when i first speced it i didnt really have the gear for fire |
| 23:41.01 | Arrowmaster | but i probably do now |
| 23:41.04 | NeoTron | it might be that immo/inci/(inci/)conflag is better |
| 23:41.16 | NeoTron | fixes the issue of "wtf mob has 500 health left" |
| 23:41.55 | Arrowmaster | actually when i first speced it and was questing outside of sunwell it was more like immo/inci |
| 23:42.02 | Arrowmaster | nothing else needed half the time |
| 23:42.07 | NeoTron | got 15530ish HP unbuffed in my tank set now. I don't strictly need it but I enjoy taking things to the extreme |
| 23:42.26 | NeoTron | let the dot kill them? |
| 23:42.40 | Arrowmaster | no the inci was half the time |
| 23:42.52 | Arrowmaster | i tanked geddon at 60 |
| 23:43.01 | Arrowmaster | that was fun |
| 23:43.49 | CIA-45 | 03Footrot * r78587 10GhostPulse/Engine.lua: |
| 23:43.49 | CIA-45 | GhostPulse/2.01: 2008-07-17 |
| 23:43.49 | CIA-45 | - Drycode: Fixed the display of non-stacking debuffs - would show a count of zero, which is annoying. |
| 23:43.54 | Arrowmaster | as MD/Ruin so no SL |
| 23:45.31 | NeoTron | I was level 60 on my lock for 2 weeks |
| 23:45.33 | NeoTron | then BC came out |
| 23:45.40 | NeoTron | so never raided in the 60s with her |
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| 23:48.58 | Daemona | haha, seems blizz fixed this conditional enabling macro addon in 2.4.3 ;) |
| 23:49.21 | sacarasc | i was level 0 when BC came out, so i never got to raid in the 60s at all |
| 23:49.24 | Daemona | damn ... now my warlock alt needs 6 buttons instead of 1 again :/ |
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| 23:56.27 | NeoTron | Daemona: what do you mean? |
| 23:56.42 | Daemona | the "automacro" addon was fixed |
| 23:56.51 | Daemona | you cant have full blown conditinals anymore |
| 23:56.59 | NeoTron | can you give an example? |
| 23:57.12 | Daemona | was able to stuff like "if target no corruption cast corruption" |
| 23:57.32 | SumpinFishy | I have a question about ORA2 and Deadly Boss Mods? Is there a way to get Tank Boxes from DBM to show up in ORA2, like the CTraid ones do? |
| 23:57.38 | Daemona | you just made a macro for any spell with appropiate conditional and made a macro the called all the amcro via clickbutton |
| 23:57.42 | NeoTron | ... how ? I thought they stopped that in 2.0? |
| 23:58.06 | Daemona | and ended with a endless farming, lifedraining tapping affliction lock |
| 23:58.13 | Funkeh` | it exploited a taint |
| 23:58.23 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r78588 10FeedMachine/ (. FeedMachine.lua FeedMachine.toc FrameLib-3.0.lua): |
| 23:58.23 | CIA-45 | FeedMachine: |
| 23:58.23 | CIA-45 | - Fix timer errors |
| 23:58.23 | CIA-45 | - Remove unnecessary FrameLib dependency |
| 23:58.25 | Daemona | yup and it got fixed in 2.4.3 |
| 23:58.28 | Funkeh` | and lol DBM has a MT list? |
| 23:58.31 | NeoTron | I see so it was a bug |
| 23:59.07 | chiper_ | they fixed the Hex-Lord exploit with this patch. we were so bummed last night |
| 23:59.08 | Funkeh` | If I download DBM can I remove all my other addons? |
| 23:59.12 | NeoTron | *mumble* ora2 *mumble* fix automatic loot *mumble* broken since May |
| 23:59.16 | Diao | what exploit? |
| 23:59.24 | SumpinFishy | I'm not exactly sure, but supposedly the guild uses DBM for MT boxes and I have never had luck with DBM running on a Mac, so I try to stay away from it. I have tried it a number of times with no luck |
| 23:59.25 | chiper_ | there was a trick to make the adds despawn |
| 23:59.29 | NeoTron | maybe I'm weird but I just play the game, w/o exploiting |
| 23:59.40 | Diao | ah, never knew |
| 23:59.42 | Diao | that's lame anyway |
| 23:59.45 | Diao | kill him the real way! |
