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| 00:05.06 | CIA-45 | 03jncl * r78950 10Skinner/ (AddonSkins/XPerl.lua ObsoleteSkins/PassLoot_Orig.lua): |
| 00:05.06 | CIA-45 | Skinner: Bugfix for missing XPerl code |
| 00:05.06 | CIA-45 | - Added PassLoot_Orig skin to ObsoleteSkins |
| 00:07.52 | Odlaw | Is there a wow environment that i can test mods on, without being in game? (kinda raiding atm, and want to test functionaility on other computer) |
| 00:08.10 | ckknight | Odlaw: tbh, not to any great degree |
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| 00:12.36 | Quaiche | Odlaw: There have been attempts, but they don't really go all the way, so you end up giving up and going back in game. |
| 00:12.56 | Aiiane | Odlaw: Remote Desktop is your friend :P |
| 00:13.09 | Vulcanus | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2778/horseju5.jpg <-- in soviet russia, horse rides you |
| 00:13.21 | Quaiche | Aiiane: RDP for WoW? It works? |
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| 00:13.57 | Aiiane | I just meant remote desktop in general... depends on the addon how much it will let you test :) |
| 00:14.08 | Aiiane | if it's a realtime addon, not very useful |
| 00:14.10 | NivFreak | Vulcanus: nice |
| 00:14.33 | Aiiane | but for less time-intensive addons, just doing something like logmein.com to a system works fine for testing |
| 00:14.52 | Odlaw | ya, i just wanted a test environment that won't affect my raiding :) |
| 00:15.27 | Aiiane | heh |
| 00:15.46 | Aiiane | I just have a separate character (named Addontest, in fact) that I test addons on |
| 00:16.07 | Odlaw | i don't have a second account tho :( |
| 00:16.19 | Aiiane | what, you're testing addons *while* raiding? o.o |
| 00:16.44 | Odlaw | during trash.. YA |
| 00:17.09 | Aiiane | lol :x |
| 00:17.10 | Odlaw | Marking icons up and pulling is too ez, i gotta preoccupy myself more |
| 00:17.21 | Aiiane | what class do you play, out of curiousity? :P |
| 00:17.24 | Odlaw | huntard |
| 00:17.31 | Aiiane | lol :P |
| 00:18.04 | Odlaw | I get so bored, i had to mark icons and pull everything, but it's just not hard enough, i need more of a challenge |
| 00:18.31 | eliteevil | Hunters are hard to play though, that's why they always pull agro.. they're too busy dpsing that they can't watch omen |
| 00:19.06 | Gnarfoz | and they think that using FD and getting up half a second later actually dumps their threat, while it doesn't :> |
| 00:19.18 | Odlaw | :) |
| 00:19.29 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: hrm? |
| 00:19.45 | Odlaw | I got a warlock, rogue for alt raids... warlock is ez mode .. more than hunter |
| 00:19.45 | Gnarfoz | have to stay down 3-4 seconds for the server to actually wipe your threat. |
| 00:20.12 | Gnarfoz | if you're not pulling aggro with 0,5sec FD's then you're just doing lousy dmg, I s'pose ;) |
| 00:20.29 | NivFreak | is this more complainint about FD bugs? |
| 00:20.30 | Neya | depends on the server. But pressing fd and then move during the animation is something I've stopped doing. |
| 00:20.40 | Gnarfoz | no, it's stating that there *is* this behaviour. |
| 00:20.48 | Gnarfoz | Neya: exactly that. :) |
| 00:20.53 | Odlaw | I used to fd and attack so fast that it wouldn't even show me as down.. used to work back in the day |
| 00:21.21 | Gnarfoz | depends on what "work" means. Omen will pick it up regardless because it's not influenced by latency at all (it runs locally) |
| 00:21.30 | Gnarfoz | doesn't mean the server will, though |
| 00:21.32 | Neya | it used to work aye, but seems something was messed up, atleast that's my take at it (I don't say I'm correct, but I say what I belive in) |
| 00:22.20 | Gnarfoz | when you've got hunters pulling aggro at RoS, Bloodboil and whatnot, even though they fraps it for you, showing they FD'd for like half a second (i.e. animation not even over), then you know something's up ^^ |
| 00:22.32 | Gnarfoz | damn, I'm out of Primal Earth! |
| 00:22.37 | Gnarfoz | someone send me some, quick >_> |
| 00:25.45 | Neya | just came to think of another bug (that thankfully got fixed), the infinite range mangles, that was dangerous in BT... |
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| 00:26.50 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:27.03 | Aiiane | l2mine, Gnarfoz :P |
| 00:27.38 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: I actually have a miner, but I'm just interested in turning it into MONEH. so I'll just buy a stack and turn it into primal life every 20hours ;) |
| 00:27.51 | Aiiane | heh :P |
| 00:27.54 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r78951 10GatherMate/Locales/ (6 files): |
| 00:27.54 | CIA-45 | GatherMate: Remove "Bound Adamantite Chest" from the list of treasure objects we |
| 00:27.54 | CIA-45 | consider because 1. It only spawns in instances which can't be tracked 2. Some |
| 00:27.54 | CIA-45 | languages have the translation of it the same as "Adamantite Bound Chest", |
| 00:27.54 | CIA-45 | causing route creation issues in Routes due to conflicting reverse translations. |
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| 00:29.23 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r78952 10GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: Comment out Bound Adamantite Chest in Constants.lua too, it is unused. |
| 00:29.30 | kaiden | hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:29.36 | kaiden | woops |
| 00:29.37 | kaiden | heh |
| 00:29.42 | kaiden | sat something on the keyboard |
| 00:32.08 | Vulcanus | lul |
| 00:33.04 | Stanzilla | lol cat? |
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| 00:34.17 | Vulcanus | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-kittens-ask-if-this-face-would-lie-to-you.jpg?w=450&h=516 |
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| 01:00.21 | RaydenUni | reason #238 we will see so many death knights |
| 01:00.27 | RaydenUni | no one will want to level 1-55 anymore |
| 01:00.51 | kagaro | lols |
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| 01:13.36 | NeoTron | is it limited to 1 per server per account btw? |
| 01:13.52 | NeoTron | I suspect any new realms they add will have a huge number of DK's unless they limited them |
| 01:14.05 | kaiden | yes it's 1 per server per account |
| 01:14.16 | NeoTron | in fact it'd make sense if they made it an option to start at level 55 of all classeas |
| 01:14.24 | NeoTron | if you have a L80 at least |
| 01:14.27 | kaiden | that would be nice lol |
| 01:14.32 | kaiden | especially for addicts like me |
| 01:14.38 | kaiden | who has 1 of everything at 70 anyway |
| 01:14.40 | Primer | start at 55, naked? |
| 01:14.40 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 01:14.48 | NeoTron | Primer: well with gear similar to DK... |
| 01:14.51 | Gnarfoz | you wouldn't be an addict if you didn't have to level all those chars |
| 01:15.00 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: lolz |
| 01:15.11 | NeoTron | l55-70 alone is about the same as 1-55 is it not? |
| 01:17.32 | kaiden | jesus christ the blizzard "torrent" downloader sucks.. it's completely killing my home networks bandwidth because you can't set how much you want it to upload at heh |
| 01:17.45 | NivFreak | kaiden: uh, I think you can disable upload :P |
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| 01:18.08 | kaiden | i'm not seeing it in the options |
| 01:18.33 | NivFreak | I don't have one in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it's there |
| 01:18.54 | NivFreak | NeoTron: hopefully they let you start at 55 for all classes, I think it's a mistake not to |
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| 01:19.01 | JoshBorke | ... |
| 01:19.08 | JoshBorke | hero class vs normal class |
| 01:19.09 | NivFreak | I bet we can guess what will happen though |
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| 01:20.21 | Xuerian | kaiden: Use the torrent itself? |
| 01:21.15 | NeoTron | JoshBorke: who'd start from leevl 1 when they can start from level 55? |
| 01:21.43 | NeoTron | I can see a new realm, if DK is allowed, with 80% DK's from the begining :P |
| 01:21.48 | kaiden | Xuerian, i had already downloaded 1.1gb of it before it started uploading massively so :P i'll just stick it out |
| 01:21.54 | kaiden | it was just a comment on their downloader heh |
| 01:21.57 | Xuerian | doh. |
| 01:22.28 | kaiden | granted i understand why they dont allow you to set it |
| 01:22.32 | kaiden | i mean its' free bandwidth |
| 01:22.38 | kaiden | they dont have to pay for all that so it's great for them |
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| 01:27.21 | RaydenUni | how do i make wow display rolls? |
| 01:27.26 | RaydenUni | i turned it off and now i can't find it |
| 01:31.39 | Neya | Display -> etailed loot information |
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| 01:34.48 | NeoTron | man I think tanking with a DK would be awesome |
| 01:34.57 | NeoTron | Deathgrip is ftw |
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| 01:41.25 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r78953 10Postal/Modules/BlackBook.lua: Postal: - The Friends and Guild dropdown lists of BlackBook module is now sorted alphabetically. koKR, zhCN and zhTW locales are not affected by this change. |
| 01:42.24 | Codayus | I swear, every day the average intelligence on display in the Plans for the Future thread DROPS. |
| 01:43.20 | Codayus | First come the people asking questions which have already been answered, and you think "wow, sad". Then come the people providing incorrect ANSWERS to questions which have already been answered, and you think "...". |
| 01:46.28 | Xuerian | Chaos. It spreads. |
| 01:52.00 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r78954 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 01:52.00 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:52.00 | CIA-45 | - Small correction |
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| 02:02.35 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r78955 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/loottables.es.lua: |
| 02:02.36 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 02:02.36 | CIA-45 | - Spanish bugfix |
| 02:06.21 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r78956 10AtlasLoot/TableRegister/ (loottables.de.lua loottables.fr.lua loottables.tw.lua): |
| 02:06.21 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 02:06.21 | CIA-45 | - Found an error in other languages too |
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| 02:09.12 | CIA-45 | 03wang * r78957 10SmartMount/Rock_Locale.lua: |
| 02:09.12 | CIA-45 | SmartMount: |
| 02:09.12 | CIA-45 | - zhCN added |
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| 02:27.47 | CIA-45 | 03apoco * r78958 10RBM_Sunwell/ (Brutallus.lua Kalecgos.lua): RBM_Sunwell: minor localization fix |
| 02:28.22 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r78959 10DrumCoord/Core.lua: |
| 02:28.22 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
| 02:28.22 | CIA-45 | -Fix some options; hopefully dependencies work now |
| 02:29.06 | Orionshock | anyway to make the Auctioneer Error Report Thing to give you a rev number in the error report? |
| 02:37.13 | Lukian | Has Inferno spawns on Anethron (I think) been hotfixed yet? |
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| 02:40.09 | Pneumatus | no idea, killed him last wednesday and he was broken, will probably find out tomorrow tho :) |
| 02:44.17 | RaydenUni | can maim interrupt julianne? |
| 02:44.24 | CIA-45 | 03laotseu * r78960 10Fubar_DominosFu/ (DominosFu.lua DominosFuLocale-enUS.lua): |
| 02:44.24 | CIA-45 | Fubar_DominosFu: |
| 02:44.24 | CIA-45 | - Added some options to the Fubar menu |
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| 02:44.59 | Neya | RaydenUNI, as far as I know, no. |
| 02:45.27 | Neya | She is immune to the stuneffect, and thus it won't interupt, and last time I tried with the pvpgloves it had no effect. |
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| 02:50.31 | Asususu | Say... does anyone know if there's a way to determine what region the player is in, that is, EU, US, etc? |
| 02:51.00 | Orionshock | Asususu: don't think so |
| 02:51.17 | Asususu | I was afraid that was the answer. |
| 02:55.28 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:55.31 | Arrowmaster | its possible |
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| 02:59.52 | towbar | hi all |
| 03:00.04 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r78961 10Decursive/ (. DCR_init.lua Dcr_Events.lua Dcr_opt.lua embeds.xml): |
| 03:00.04 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 03:00.04 | CIA-45 | - SPELL_DISPEL_FAILED combat log events were not detected because of a spelling mistake in the event name :/ |
| 03:00.04 | CIA-45 | - When the live-list tool tips are disabled, the Live-List won't catch mouse event, you can click right through it. |
| 03:00.04 | CIA-45 | - Removed LibSpecialEventAura |
| 03:03.01 | Asususu | Arrowmaster: It's possible? How? |
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| 03:03.12 | Arrowmaster | sec |
| 03:03.38 | Arrowmaster | GetCVar("realmList") |
| 03:04.18 | Industrial | oh ill use that and error out with "rofl reroll enGB" if its anything else |
| 03:04.31 | RaydenUni | arg |
| 03:04.35 | RaydenUni | a resto druid just won http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28590 |
| 03:04.38 | Industrial | and then obfuscate my code. |
| 03:04.40 | Asususu | Arrowmaster: Thanks! |
| 03:04.42 | RaydenUni | over a paladin off spec |
| 03:04.49 | RaydenUni | is there a worse druid healing trinket? |
| 03:04.59 | Industrial | i has it on my sham |
| 03:05.08 | Industrial | it works with chain |
| 03:05.09 | Industrial | :D |
| 03:05.36 | Arrowmaster | i have the hmgt one on my warlock |
| 03:05.41 | RaydenUni | it ONLY procs for regrowth for druids |
| 03:05.47 | Industrial | lol. |
| 03:05.51 | Arrowmaster | it works with health funnel |
| 03:05.55 | RaydenUni | i don't think i would ever use it even if i had it |
| 03:06.07 | Industrial | I use it for the passive buff :< |
| 03:06.15 | Industrial | er, stats* |
| 03:06.20 | Neya | I used it, there is more than just the proc on it RaydenUni. |
| 03:06.36 | RaydenUni | but it doesn't proc of lifebloom or rejuvenation |
| 03:06.56 | RaydenUni | oh let me actually read what you wrote |
| 03:07.01 | Neya | swiftmend is considered a direct heal, isn't it? |
| 03:07.20 | Industrial | its way better for pally I guess |
| 03:07.28 | Industrial | with the quick heals |
| 03:07.55 | RaydenUni | it's not hard to get a trinket with more than 73 + heal |
| 03:07.55 | Neya | I can agree on that, but it's not bad in that wording. |
| 03:07.55 | RaydenUni | heck this guy has a green with +200 something |
| 03:08.02 | Industrial | ok, uber leet non conventional pvp action movie link time! |
| 03:08.04 | Industrial | go! |
| 03:08.06 | Industrial | waits |
| 03:08.10 | RaydenUni | oh wait |
| 03:08.11 | RaydenUni | +53 |
| 03:08.12 | RaydenUni | nm |
| 03:08.23 | NeoTron | 15:40 < RaydenUni> a resto druid just won http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28590 |
| 03:08.45 | Industrial | thats no uber leet nonconventional pvp action movie link, NeoTron |
| 03:09.18 | NeoTron | wtf |
| 03:09.23 | NeoTron | wonder why I pated that |
| 03:09.25 | RaydenUni | vs a prot paly |
| 03:09.29 | Industrial | me too |
| 03:09.50 | Industrial | I have no idea how prot pallies gear, but do they want +healing? o_O |
| 03:09.51 | NeoTron | some magic in the mac terminal |
| 03:09.56 | RaydenUni | for offspec |
| 03:10.11 | Industrial | if hes mainspec then he prolly wants it for the stats, like me |
| 03:10.26 | RaydenUni | it seems to me that it's like a shadowpriest picking up a crit based trinket |
| 03:10.31 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/xamth |
| 03:10.42 | towbar | question to the room: |
| 03:10.50 | Industrial | oh i have my crop on :P lol |
| 03:10.54 | towbar | wtf is going on with news on WOR nad MMO etc |
| 03:10.56 | RaydenUni | you COULD pick it up and it might be better |
| 03:11.01 | RaydenUni | but other classes can use it WAY more |
| 03:11.21 | Industrial | ask to roll, if its allowed then a roll is a roll imo |
| 03:11.48 | Industrial | else try dkp :P |
| 03:11.50 | Industrial | runs |
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| 03:12.04 | RaydenUni | oh my guild of course allowed it |
| 03:12.07 | RaydenUni | if you want to roll they let you |
| 03:12.09 | RaydenUni | for everything |
| 03:12.22 | Codayus | For a resto druid, it's basically 73 passive +healing. If that's an upgrade for the druid, then fair enough? But he'd have to have a pretty crappy trinket. |
| 03:12.26 | Neya | towbar: what do you mean? to me they look pretty normal. |
| 03:12.39 | towbar | have you read WOR forums etc lately? |
| 03:12.52 | Industrial | whats wor |
| 03:12.55 | RaydenUni | too worried about being flexible that we don't left theorycrafting get in the way of rolls |
| 03:13.00 | towbar | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=10601.0 |
| 03:13.11 | towbar | WordOfRaids |
| 03:13.40 | Industrial | lol just morons whining over their precious wau |
| 03:13.50 | Industrial | dismisses it |
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| 03:14.27 | Codayus | I mean, Lower City Prayerbook is 70 passive healing, essentially free... |
| 03:14.31 | Industrial | "oh noez i cant handle zips how am i going to live now wau is GONE EMO QQ AAH KILL MYSELF" |
| 03:14.34 | Industrial | one less, imo. |
| 03:14.41 | towbar | lol |
| 03:14.47 | towbar | no seriously |
| 03:15.03 | Industrial | yeah seriously, I dont care about 1click updaters |
| 03:15.12 | towbar | is there something that might precipitate such a post? |
| 03:15.22 | Industrial | oh well |
| 03:15.23 | Codayus | Not unique. Anyone who goes to Kara without something at least as good as 2xLCPB has issues... (Unless an alt, I suppose.) |
| 03:15.29 | Industrial | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 |
| 03:15.31 | Industrial | start reading |
| 03:15.31 | Industrial | :D |
| 03:15.39 | Industrial | in before qq from towbar |
| 03:16.11 | Industrial | Codayus: I didnt know that item :P |
| 03:16.19 | Industrial | Codayus: but I've switched to resto last week.. |
| 03:16.27 | towbar | "Because of these things, I've petitioned and received approval to deploy the CurseForge Software for use on WowAce.com. " |
| 03:16.47 | towbar | does that mean curse FINALLY "updates" ace addonds per say? |
| 03:16.51 | Codayus | Industrial: It's the classic "omg, I'm 70, I need to heal, my gear sucks, what to do!?" trinket. Get 2 of 'em, they share cooldowns of course, but what the hell. |
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| 03:17.15 | Industrial | am i rvered am i revered... |
| 03:17.16 | Codayus | (Personally, I still use Rejuvenating Gem from BWL on my priest...) |
| 03:17.18 | Industrial | *logs in* |
| 03:17.30 | Industrial | I wasnt revered for the honor hold head enchant :P |
| 03:17.37 | Industrial | cant get a group for life |
| 03:18.51 | Codayus | Heh, HH rep is the one faction I'm not exalted with of all the factions associated with a 5 man. |
| 03:19.08 | Industrial | blah, lower city honored :3 |
| 03:19.12 | Industrial | i knew it |
| 03:19.29 | Codayus | :-( |
| 03:19.33 | Industrial | also cba grinding anything resto |
| 03:19.43 | Industrial | takes ages to meelee, lots of mana to cast |
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| 03:20.13 | Codayus | With halfway decent resto gear you can do alright pretending to be elemental. |
| 03:20.15 | Zyndrome | resto + the trees in Terokkar |
| 03:20.16 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r78962 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Add a few lines of code to create a launcher for Omen in LibDataBroker-1.1 only if it is detected to be loaded. |
| 03:20.18 | Zyndrome | fun fun fun |
| 03:20.31 | Diao | as a shaman? |
| 03:20.34 | Neya | that's why it is is faster to level and grind with a hunteralt isntead of your main restodruid :P |
| 03:20.35 | Diao | wf weapon with a 2hander |
| 03:20.40 | Diao | and drop searing totem |
| 03:20.53 | Diao | as a druid you can play at being balance |
| 03:20.58 | Codayus | Once you have 2k +healing, your lightning bolts hit with authority, and you never run OOM... |
| 03:21.09 | syeren | When you hit 2k healing. |
| 03:21.09 | Industrial | 1100 hits now |
| 03:21.14 | syeren | Your lightning bolts hit for 1.3k. |
| 03:21.16 | syeren | Hardly anything --- |
| 03:21.31 | Diao | it's not as fast as ele of course |
| 03:21.33 | Diao | but it's still decent |
| 03:21.35 | syeren | And you do run OOM. |
| 03:21.41 | syeren | Due to no Clearcasting :p |
| 03:21.44 | Codayus | syeren: Plenty for grinding. Especially if you ever tried them BEFORE the healing/dmg conversion. |
| 03:21.45 | Industrial | yeh |
| 03:21.50 | Diao | pft |
| 03:21.51 | Diao | water shield! |
| 03:22.07 | Industrial | no way :3 oom after 2 mobs |
| 03:22.21 | syeren | Well I have full tier 6 etc and still go OOm. |
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| 03:22.28 | syeren | 2.4-5k healing ;p |
| 03:22.38 | syeren | I just grind as Elemental in my Elemental gear if need be :p |
| 03:22.39 | Industrial | syeren: drool |
| 03:22.57 | Industrial | actually i specced enhancement and back today to level enchanting in deadmines :P took a level 10 4 times through it taking all the greens |
| 03:23.06 | Industrial | doing queldanas after to make up and spec back for the money :< |
| 03:23.13 | Industrial | enchanting 50 now lol |
| 03:23.17 | Diao | lol |
| 03:23.24 | Codayus | My mains been a holy priest forever. Pre heal/dmg conversion: Spend 5 minutes smiting something to death, then drink. Now: 15s, no drinking. /dance |
| 03:23.25 | Diao | it would've been faster to spend that 50g on the AH buying strange dust |
| 03:23.29 | Diao | and cheaper |
| 03:23.30 | Diao | >.> |
| 03:24.04 | syeren | Play as Resto in Elemental gear is okay-ish I guess. |
| 03:24.06 | Aiiane | darnit Bibi` |
| 03:24.09 | Codayus | (Note: Time values pulled out of my ass. It FEELS like about that much faster though.) |
| 03:24.17 | Aiiane | tell your mods not to respond to my posts when the thread is locked so I can't reply :P |
| 03:24.18 | syeren | LB hits for 1700~ with PVP Trinket on. |
| 03:24.24 | syeren | But slow cast time >_> |
| 03:24.30 | Industrial | oh i havent tried that :O |
| 03:24.33 | Codayus | syeren: Well, holy priests don't get wf imbues. Shamans do have other options I guess. :-) |
| 03:24.38 | Industrial | *grabs ele gear from bank* |
| 03:24.39 | Diao | in any case |
| 03:24.45 | Diao | what would you grind to lc honored on |
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| 03:25.00 | Diao | afaik the only way to get rep with lc is instances? |
| 03:25.06 | syeren | And quests. |
| 03:25.07 | NivFreak | NeoTron: ping |
| 03:25.21 | Codayus | The best way is probably to run slabs a couple times ina guild group. |
| 03:25.25 | syeren | Well I only play Enhancement for grinding. |
| 03:25.34 | syeren | My main is a holy Priest, so I fucking hate Enhancement with a passion. |
| 03:25.41 | Codayus | If that's not available, you could try pugging it, but I'd rather reroll than pug slabs. YMMV. |
| 03:25.56 | Industrial | Anyone know where I can get a new and shiny main hand weapon for healing on my resto shaman? I'm not going to do av all day and I cant heal magisters terrace (I think, not like people even consider taking me) |
| 03:26.02 | Industrial | http://vashj-eu.warcrafter.net/xamth |
| 03:26.04 | Industrial | ^ him |
| 03:26.21 | Codayus | Industrial: Collect badges, cash 'em in. |
| 03:26.22 | Industrial | The guild asks me to get 1600+ healing before they take me in raids.... |
| 03:26.26 | Industrial | 25 badges amt |
| 03:26.43 | Codayus | Ah, well, 1600 healing isn't too hard. Armory link? |
| 03:27.33 | syeren | Shattered Halls / Mech. |
| 03:27.33 | abug | is that your real trinket |
| 03:27.34 | syeren | I guess. |
| 03:27.50 | NeoTron | NivFreak: yes? |
| 03:27.58 | Codayus | If you can't even get into an alt kara run, then get exalted with Shatar. |
| 03:28.10 | NivFreak | NeoTron: what does magicdkp use to trigger new raid events / attendance tracking |
| 03:28.14 | Industrial | abug: no i resynced check again :3 |
| 03:28.21 | NeoTron | bosses dying |
| 03:28.21 | Diao | Industrial |
| 03:28.23 | Diao | can you stand pvp grinding? |
| 03:28.25 | abug | heroic shattered halls has a 317 healing weapon |
| 03:28.29 | Diao | because i specced my shaman alt resto at 70 |
| 03:28.31 | abug | er |
| 03:28.32 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so what about trash drops before the first boss dies? |
| 03:28.35 | Diao | and she's already at 1400 healing |
| 03:28.38 | abug | heroic shadow labs |
| 03:28.39 | Diao | with a bit of pvp gear |
| 03:28.40 | NeoTron | and manually added events with /md event raidstart etc |
| 03:28.48 | NeoTron | it gets put into a "trash loot" event for the zone |
| 03:28.56 | syeren | I'd personally just AFK in AV, but heh :p |
| 03:28.57 | NeoTron | likewise if it drops after the first boss |
| 03:29.05 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 03:29.08 | NivFreak | ok |
| 03:29.10 | Codayus | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=2.4&filter=ub=7;preset=7.pve.resto |
| 03:29.12 | NeoTron | it's not meant for other sort of tracking |
| 03:29.13 | NivFreak | looking at the most recent raids it seems ok |
| 03:29.21 | Diao | agreed syeren |
| 03:29.23 | Diao | and do the others for marks |
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| 03:29.27 | Diao | i got s2 weapon/shield |
| 03:29.30 | Diao | easily 500 +healing right there |
| 03:29.32 | NivFreak | some of the ones from a few months ago only show me in attendance for trash drops |
| 03:29.35 | Ellipsis | touches Industrial |
| 03:29.37 | NeoTron | yes |
| 03:29.42 | NeoTron | that was an intentional decision |
| 03:29.45 | NeoTron | which I changed |
| 03:29.48 | NivFreak | ahhh |
| 03:29.48 | NivFreak | k |
| 03:29.51 | syeren | Wowhead's kind of sucks. |
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| 03:29.53 | NivFreak | good, I prefer it this way |
| 03:29.56 | syeren | Crystal Spire is probably the best weapon. |
| 03:29.59 | NeoTron | now every time an item drops it adds everyone in the raid atm to the current event |
| 03:30.01 | syeren | Dark Blessing is better than Season 3. |
| 03:30.03 | NivFreak | how well does it deal with multiple instance raids now? |
| 03:30.07 | syeren | And the Badge Weapon. |
| 03:30.21 | NeoTron | it's fine in that it logs zone for events which is used when exporting |
| 03:30.27 | NeoTron | the name of the raid is that of the first kill |
| 03:30.31 | Diao | granted the badge weapon is much better than s2 weapon |
| 03:30.31 | Diao | however |
| 03:30.37 | Diao | s2 weapon is much muhc easier to get |
| 03:30.43 | Diao | 25.2k honor can be done in 2 days with mark turnins |
| 03:30.44 | NivFreak | ok, I'll see how it imports into eqdkp |
| 03:30.46 | Codayus | Exalted with Shatar, revered with SSO, um... Mech or Shatted Halls drops. Essence Focused off AH? |
| 03:30.47 | NeoTron | or zonein |
| 03:30.52 | NivFreak | I'd really like to get rid of CTRT |
| 03:30.55 | Industrial | tickles Ellipsis |
| 03:31.03 | abug | revered with lower city for the book |
| 03:31.05 | syeren | Why not use NRT then? |
| 03:31.07 | syeren | NRT is amazing :p |
| 03:31.10 | NeoTron | and if you prefer you can always /md stop /md start to start a new raid |
| 03:31.12 | Diao | yeah i use nrt |
| 03:31.14 | Diao | <3 it |
| 03:31.17 | Industrial | Diao: I have 2 pieces s2 |
| 03:31.25 | Industrial | Diao: and 6k honor or so atm |
| 03:31.27 | NivFreak | I've never used mrt |
| 03:31.27 | NeoTron | syeren: not really |
| 03:31.27 | Diao | get s2 weapon/shield |
| 03:31.28 | NivFreak | nrt |
| 03:31.31 | Diao | enchanted |
| 03:31.37 | Industrial | Diao: yeah thats a lot of honor lol :P |
| 03:31.38 | Diao | you'll have 580ish healing from those alone |
| 03:31.39 | NivFreak | and I've had magicdkp and ctrt tracking my shit since april |
| 03:31.41 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r78963 10Decursive/Dcr_Events.lua: |
| 03:31.41 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 03:31.41 | CIA-45 | - Added a helmet to the combat log event handler |
| 03:31.42 | NivFreak | so I can compare side by side |
| 03:31.44 | Diao | afk av for 2 days |
| 03:31.45 | NeoTron | meaning it's good for some but doesn't work for me |
| 03:31.46 | Diao | you'll have it all :) |
| 03:31.57 | NivFreak | NeoTron: does zoning automatically create a new raid event? |
| 03:31.59 | NeoTron | which is why I wrote MagicDKP. I need something more like CTRT |
| 03:32.15 | NeoTron | for example NRT can't have values for items |
| 03:32.31 | Diao | do you use integrated dkp into the game? |
| 03:32.33 | NeoTron | it has a single one item and if you loot another one it changes the value of the first item |
| 03:32.41 | Diao | cause i just have a firefox tab with dkp lists open on my second monitor |
| 03:32.43 | Diao | for dkp tracking |
| 03:33.01 | NeoTron | NivFreak: not an event no but it sets the name of the raid. |
| 03:33.36 | NeoTron | creating a raid over mininmum nuber creates a new raid |
| 03:33.49 | syeren | akfvbas |
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| 03:33.52 | NivFreak | is the CTRT export button supposed to do something? |
| 03:33.57 | syeren | Blizzard need to make 5v5 arena worth playing again -_- |
| 03:33.59 | NivFreak | or is it magically filling my paste buffer |
| 03:34.02 | Diao | yeah |
| 03:34.06 | Diao | you use ctrt import mod on eqdkp |
| 03:34.09 | Diao | and paste that into it |
| 03:34.09 | NeoTron | i.e 10, 25 or always when in a raid |
| 03:34.14 | Diao | and it "automatically creates the raid for you" |
| 03:34.18 | Diao | with all items/etc |
| 03:34.21 | NivFreak | ... |
| 03:34.22 | Diao | it only really works for some people though |
| 03:34.24 | NivFreak | I mean |
| 03:34.26 | NivFreak | I click it |
| 03:34.29 | NivFreak | and nothing happens |
| 03:34.30 | NivFreak | :P |
| 03:34.33 | Diao | oh |
| 03:34.40 | Diao | it's supposed to fill your clipboard |
| 03:34.44 | NivFreak | er, oh nope |
| 03:34.45 | Diao | when you tell it to export |
| 03:34.45 | NeoTron | not via MagicDKP |
| 03:34.54 | NivFreak | it was a background window |
| 03:35.00 | NivFreak | didn't forground the options window |
| 03:35.00 | Diao | oh |
| 03:35.21 | NeoTron | but I track it in-game |
| 03:35.58 | NeoTron | using showdkp to show it |
| 03:36.51 | NivFreak | hehe, I hate having to remember the way eqdkp breaks shit up |
| 03:37.02 | NivFreak | Events vs Raid notes |
| 03:37.03 | NivFreak | etc |
| 03:38.07 | Diao | i have to do all my dkp updates manually |
| 03:38.10 | Diao | because i use my own system :( |
| 03:38.12 | NivFreak | NeoTron: so if I want a new listed raid, I should /md stop after I leave an instance? |
| 03:38.23 | NivFreak | Diao: this is mainly just loot tracking |
| 03:38.32 | Diao | ah |
| 03:38.38 | Diao | yeah if it's just loot tracking i use nrt |
| 03:38.45 | Diao | because i pre-assign all loot certain values |
| 03:38.49 | Diao | so i just look it up on the table |
| 03:39.49 | NivFreak | NeoTron: for example, after killing archimonde and going to BT |
| 03:41.59 | Diao | does anyone arena on a resto shaman |
| 03:42.22 | Diao | i'm wondering if the s4 totem is the best for arena or if there's a better option in pve |
| 03:43.01 | syeren | Better. |
| 03:43.28 | syeren | Totem of Healing Rains is the best totem in game. |
| 03:44.02 | Aiiane | Hmm... I just got a neat idea for an addon :) |
| 03:44.11 | Aiiane | putters off to brainstorm |
| 03:44.37 | Diao | uhh |
| 03:44.46 | Diao | syeren how often do you actually use chain heal in arena... |
| 03:45.18 | syeren | Oh, best for arena. |
| 03:45.19 | syeren | Hmm. |
| 03:45.23 | syeren | Possibly AQ totem. |
| 03:45.42 | Diao | ew.. i don't think i want to go back to aq for a totem lol |
| 03:46.07 | Diao | the fankriss one? |
| 03:46.31 | syeren | Yup. |
| 03:46.57 | Diao | hmm |
| 03:47.00 | Diao | naxx one seems pretty good too |
| 03:47.04 | Diao | 10 mana everytime you cast lhw |
| 03:47.30 | Paene | Anyone know when WoWI is sending out author beta keys? |
| 03:47.47 | Aiiane | the day after the next previous tuesday. |
| 03:47.49 | Aiiane | not really. |
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| 04:05.52 | RaydenUni | yay a purple dps ring |
| 04:06.25 | vithos | ~seen apoco |
| 04:06.31 | purl | apoco <i=Apoco@adsl-99-172-134-155.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 4d 2h 4m 53s ago, saying: 'through talents'. |
| 04:08.29 | steev | is the author of parrot around? |
| 04:09.15 | steev | im just getting something weird happening when doing the concerted efforts quest. The game says I get 238 honor (im level 63) - honorfu says i get 238 honor, but parrot says +239 honor |
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| 04:25.30 | vithos | lol, brutallus trash just respawned on us. so much for wiping to m'uru all week. |
| 04:27.33 | Gnarfoz | like, you were at m'uru, then brutallus trash respawned? |
| 04:28.36 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowtunnels.com/ |
| 04:28.41 | Xinhuan | that's a pretty nice donation meter |
| 04:29.44 | Zyndrome | errrrrrrrr |
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| 04:32.10 | Zyndrome | patch tcpip.sys , et voila |
| 04:33.36 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 04:33.45 | Gnarfoz | patch it for what |
| 04:33.47 | Gnarfoz | better routing? |
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| 04:38.09 | Killmore | http://www.wowtunnels.com working ? or its a scam ? |
| 04:39.03 | Codayus | Not a scam at all |
| 04:39.15 | Codayus | Haven't used wowtunnels, but the theory is sound. |
| 04:39.30 | vithos | against ToS i think, like lowerping, but yeah i doubt it's a scam |
| 04:39.45 | Codayus | Against ToS? Why? |
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| 04:40.43 | vithos | a technicality essentially. it's a proxy so you appear to be playing from their ip instead of yours |
| 04:41.22 | vithos | it's probably something they'd only take action against if they had another reason to do so already |
| 04:41.28 | Codayus | Yes, so? Using a proxy doesn't violate the ToS that I can see. |
| 04:41.45 | vithos | that's just what was said a long time ago when someone was talking about lowerping |
| 04:41.52 | vithos | pulling brutallus again |
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| 04:45.52 | NivFreak | so am I reading the threat changelog correctly? |
| 04:46.08 | NivFreak | did they basically nerf paladin heal tanking? |
| 04:46.17 | NivFreak | or has threatlib been wrong for a long time |
| 04:49.47 | Aiiane | threat-2.0 has been wrong for a while I believe |
| 04:50.15 | Aiiane | he problem arose in patch 2.4.2 (13 May 2008), when Blizzard changed the spellIDs of most of the paladin healing spells without any indication/documentation, we verified this by digging through current and past combat logs and noted that after the patch, the old spellIDs no longer appear. The Holyshock IDs above are wrong though, the cast and heal still remain separate spells in the combat log (with completely different spellIDs). |
| 04:50.20 | Aiiane | *the |
| 04:50.33 | Aiiane | (quoted from the forum thread listed in the commit log as [1]) |
| 04:50.55 | NivFreak | yea |
| 04:50.56 | NivFreak | I read it |
| 04:51.13 | NivFreak | so did they just lose the proper modifier when the spellid changed? |
| 04:51.15 | Aiiane | pally healing has always had a lower threat coefficient |
| 04:51.19 | NivFreak | right |
| 04:51.22 | Aiiane | pretty much yeah |
| 04:51.39 | Aiiane | since before the modifier was only applied to spells which matched the stored spellids |
| 04:52.24 | NivFreak | ok, just wanted to make sure I read that right |
| 04:52.25 | NivFreak | thanks |
| 04:56.20 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 04:56.36 | Aiiane | if someone leaves a raid, and another is invited |
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| 04:57.01 | Aiiane | are the raidX unit designations shuffled around for all raid members, or does the person who joined just get the free id? |
| 05:01.58 | vithos | Codayus: it may not strictly be against the ToS, but i believe people have been banned because it looks just like a powerleveling service to blizzard or something |
| 05:03.26 | Codayus | vithos: *nod* It's assumed bliz has an automatic check that fires if an single account shows up on X different IP addresses in Y days. Not a ToS violation though, which is all I was disagreeing with. |
| 05:03.32 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: everyone, if I read wowwiki etc. correctly when I last meddled with that |
| 05:03.59 | Gnarfoz | my account is online from a different IP every day of the year |
| 05:04.08 | Gnarfoz | such a check would be pretty useless ;D |
| 05:04.30 | Codayus | Gnarfoz: Not at all. |
| 05:04.39 | Codayus | Dynamic IP from your ISP right? |
| 05:04.40 | Gnarfoz | if they use geoip or something, then yes |
| 05:04.47 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 05:04.49 | Codayus | But they'll all come from the same block, like as not. |
| 05:04.59 | Codayus | And yes, geoip or similar... |
| 05:05.25 | Codayus | And then cross check with "which and how many wow accounts show up from the same IP"... |
| 05:06.40 | Codayus | Also, AFAIK all the bans which could be traced to people using proxies were also leveling at the time. |
| 05:09.20 | Gnarfoz | dunno. still, using tunneling to get around really bad routing is feasible. risks nonwithstanding ^^ |
| 05:09.27 | Gnarfoz | I couldn't imagine playing with 500+ pings |
| 05:11.37 | renchap | got my Wotlk beta key \o/ |
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| 05:13.27 | Gnarfoz | haet |
| 05:13.29 | Gnarfoz | :< |
| 05:13.48 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: go hunt renchap down :p |
| 05:14.06 | renchap | and i need to go to work :'( |
| 05:14.49 | Civrock | Any working one-bag kinda mods for WotLK out yet? |
| 05:15.03 | Aiiane | also Gnarfoz, do you know offhand if there's an easy way to map a player name back to a raidX designation, aside from iterating through them until you find a match? |
| 05:15.20 | Gnarfoz | don't think there is one, sadly :\ |
| 05:17.11 | Codayus | Personally, I have a server in a US data center anyhow; I just tunnel through that. Works quite well, and I don't see it as being a risk. |
| 05:17.13 | Aiiane | so basically, I'd just need to keep a translation table myself and update it on any RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE event |
| 05:17.39 | Codayus | Would be a bit expensive to set up JUST for wow though. :-) |
| 05:17.56 | Gnarfoz | Codayus: exactly. when Telia was on bad terms with DTAG in december 2005 and 2006 (wtf), I just tunneled through my box that had direct Telia connectivity anyway :> |
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| 05:51.13 | Aiiane | Funkeh`: ping |
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| 06:06.32 | CIA-45 | squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * r496f3dd 10/: Forcefully fix Blizzard's icky GameTime_GetLocalTime function |
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| 06:19.39 | steev | hrm |
| 06:19.51 | steev | does decursive not actually need SpecialEvents-Auras-2.0? |
| 06:20.07 | steev | cuz im not seeing it and decursive is bitching that it isn't installed |
| 06:20.09 | Diao | it was updated to not need it i think |
| 06:20.15 | Diao | in the last update |
| 06:20.29 | steev | i've got the latest which was updated a few hours ago and im still getting errors |
| 06:20.34 | Diao | oh, strange |
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| 06:20.42 | CIA-45 | 03nightik * r78967 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 06:20.42 | CIA-45 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 06:20.42 | CIA-45 | - update ruRU locale |
| 06:21.19 | steev | 78963 is the revision i have |
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| 06:22.21 | Diao | wtf |
| 06:22.26 | Diao | wtf |
| 06:22.31 | Diao | mine is older version than yours |
| 06:22.49 | Diao | 78906 |
| 06:22.58 | Diao | i probably didn't maunally delete the lib |
| 06:23.00 | Diao | since i use externals |
| 06:23.26 | steev | hrm |
| 06:23.31 | steev | SpecialEventsEmbed |
| 06:23.41 | steev | definitely not in Libs |
| 06:23.48 | steev | but i have it installed externally |
| 06:24.12 | Diao | i have both SpecialEvents-Auras-2.0 and SpecialEventsEmbed in my /Addons/ |
| 06:24.47 | steev | i don't have the SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 in Addons |
| 06:24.56 | steev | but it is inside SpecialEventsEmbed |
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| 06:28.00 | steev | yeah, putting it in the libs directory for decursive itself fixed the issue - not sure *why* it needed it though |
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| 06:31.24 | Diao | probably not removed from the toc? |
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| 06:35.20 | oxez | Anyone kinda familiar with bartender3? |
| 06:35.56 | Diao | upgrade to bt4? |
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| 06:37.06 | Zyndrome | what he said |
| 06:37.17 | Zyndrome | (tbh I switched to Dominos :<) |
| 06:37.31 | oxez | Are we able to say how many button pages we want per bar with version 4? |
| 06:38.04 | oxez | like with blizzard default UI, when all actions bars are shown, there are only 2, and currently with BT3 I cannot switch between only 2, all other bars show up as button pages |
| 06:40.40 | Elkano | pets/mounts as spells? <3 |
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| 06:40.54 | ramoz | yeah, awesome |
| 06:40.55 | Diao | o_O |
| 06:41.03 | ramoz | hope you get a own fane for that tho |
| 06:41.54 | oxez | hm. Page 1 are my shadow spells, page 2 are my holy spells, and I just want a way to switch between only these 2, but if it's not possible... |
| 06:42.17 | nevcairiel | Thats currently not possible, neither in BT3 nor 4, sorry. |
| 06:43.56 | oxez | okay, thanks |
| 06:44.21 | nevcairiel | and, morning btw. |
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| 06:54.46 | cncfanatics | hello all |
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| 07:14.44 | CIA-45 | 03sayclub * r78968 10LibBabble-Zone-3.0/LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 07:14.44 | CIA-45 | LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 07:14.44 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
| 07:19.56 | breser | !rating 1747 |
| 07:19.56 | Xinhuan | 1747 rating gives 678(5s), 597(3s) and 515(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
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| 07:22.33 | Auraka | oh my |
| 07:22.34 | Auraka | hello |
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| 07:24.07 | cncfanatics | oh my |
| 07:24.08 | cncfanatics | hello |
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| 07:24.33 | Auraka | i didn't expect there to be so many people in here >.> |
| 07:24.47 | nevcairiel | Plessure to surprise you! |
| 07:25.10 | Auraka | so, i'll try to be as little a pain as possible. |
| 07:25.16 | nevcairiel | *pleasure |
| 07:25.36 | Auraka | I've never coded a day in my life. But I'd like to give this a whack, where do I start reading? |
| 07:25.49 | nevcairiel | ~wowprogramming |
| 07:25.50 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 07:25.54 | nevcairiel | ^-- |
| 07:26.09 | nevcairiel | ~pil |
| 07:26.09 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 07:26.14 | nevcairiel | also good, and online available |
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| 07:26.54 | Auraka | oh boy, this is going to take a while. :P |
| 07:27.21 | nevcairiel | I would suggest to just read a bit in pil to get a feeling for the basic programming |
| 07:27.27 | nevcairiel | if you really want to learn, buy the book |
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| 07:28.48 | Auraka | more than anything i want to necro a mod |
| 07:29.03 | Orionshock | lol |
| 07:29.16 | Auraka | but since i'm such an addon whore, i'll probably start writing some of my own once i fiddle with that |
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| 07:33.48 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78969 10/branches/SKG/ (SKG.toc SKG_Comm.lua SKG_Globals.lua): |
| 07:33.48 | CIA-45 | SuicideKingsGeo : |
| 07:33.48 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:34.19 | [Ammo] | morning |
| 07:35.07 | Kep | cheers |
| 07:35.36 | nevcairiel | morning [Ammo] |
| 07:35.43 | Arrowmaster | oh wow it looks like wowmatrix did remove my addon from their list even though they didnt send me an email or anything telling me they did |
| 07:35.45 | ccKep | -NickServ- Information on kep (account kep): Last seen : Nov 01 11:51:04 2006 (1 year, 37 weeks, 5 days, 19:44:23 ago) <<<< /me wants his name - meh |
| 07:36.18 | Arrowmaster | ccKep: so ask freenode staff for it |
| 07:36.23 | cncfanatics | ccKep: you could ask a staff |
| 07:36.44 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r78970 10SKG/ (SKG.toc SKG_Comm.lua SKG_Globals.lua): |
| 07:36.44 | CIA-45 | SKG : |
| 07:36.44 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:37.45 | Arrowmaster | if a nick isnt used for 60 days you can ask freenode staff and they will unregister it |
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| 07:50.48 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78971 10DaHud/embeds.xml: |
| 07:50.48 | CIA-45 | DaHud: |
| 07:50.48 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:08.13 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r78972 10WitchHunt/ (WitchHunt.lua locales/enUS.lua): WitchHunt: drycode players only mode. will test once servers are back up. |
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| 08:25.37 | Auraka | oh boy this is going to be tougher than i though :D |
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| 08:39.38 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: damn you using a different name on curse |
| 08:40.22 | Orionshock | is there an easy way to sort a string of names alphabeticly? |
| 08:40.52 | Arrowmaster | split it and put it into a table |
| 08:40.56 | Arrowmaster | sort the table |
| 08:41.05 | Arrowmaster | then concat the table back into a string? |
| 08:41.14 | Orionshock | afraid of that ... |
| 08:42.54 | Corveroth | Non-nil/false values are true, right? So shouldn't (str or "no string") give str so long as str isn't nil? |
| 08:43.10 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:43.25 | Corveroth | That's what I thought... |
| 08:43.46 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/92264 |
| 08:43.53 | Orionshock | how's that look for your idea? |
| 08:44.24 | Arrowmaster | bad |
| 08:44.32 | Arrowmaster | table.delete() |
| 08:44.44 | Orionshock | u mean table.remove? |
| 08:44.52 | Arrowmaster | whatever |
| 08:45.35 | Arrowmaster | and table.concat wont add an extra seperator at the end |
| 08:46.24 | Orionshock | ah |
| 08:46.37 | Arrowmaster | does your string really have blank entries? |
| 08:46.52 | Orionshock | the t.split creates them |
| 08:47.06 | Orionshock | because it's a ", " comma and space |
| 08:47.14 | Orionshock | and it makes it |
| 08:47.17 | Orionshock | no clue why |
| 08:47.43 | Arrowmaster | paste string |
| 08:47.59 | Orionshock | "Name1, Name2, Name3, ..." |
| 08:48.03 | Orionshock | like so |
| 08:48.32 | Arrowmaster | lua> table.split(", ", "Name1, Name2, Name3") |
| 08:48.33 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'split' (a nil value) |
| 08:48.34 | Orionshock | and when u do a string.split(", ", <string>) it returns == "Name1", "", "Name2", |
| 08:48.53 | Orionshock | lua> string.split(", ", "Name1, Name2, Name3") |
| 08:48.54 | lua_bot | Orionshock: Name1, , Name2, , Name3 |
| 08:49.03 | Arrowmaster | meh im tired |
| 08:49.12 | Orionshock | lua> string.split(",", "Name1, Name2, Name3") |
| 08:49.12 | lua_bot | Orionshock: Name1, Name2, Name3 |
| 08:49.20 | Orionshock | that adds the space to the name |
| 08:49.57 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%q %q %q", string.split(",", "Name1, Name2, Name3")) |
| 08:49.58 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: "Name1" " Name2" " Name3" |
| 08:50.06 | Xuerian | Why not just use ;? |
| 08:50.41 | Orionshock | waits for it, starwars style |
| 08:50.41 | profalbert | lua> string.split(", ", "Name1, Name2, Name3") |
| 08:50.42 | lua_bot | profalbert: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'ï' |
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| 08:51.06 | Arrowmaster | wtf did you do |
| 08:51.09 | profalbert | lua> string.split(", ", "Name1, Name2, Name3") |
| 08:51.10 | lua_bot | profalbert: Name1, , Name2, , Name3 |
| 08:51.20 | profalbert | copy&paste |
| 08:52.38 | winkiller | I would've sworn HoTimer was on ace... |
| 08:52.54 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.split(";", string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";")) |
| 08:52.54 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Name1, Name2;Name3 |
| 08:52.58 | Orionshock | Xuerian: did u have an idea? |
| 08:53.01 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 08:53.11 | winkiller | anyone got any hints for a decent HoT tracker? fed up with ClassTimer because it keeps forgetting settings weekly |
| 08:53.12 | Xuerian | not particularly... |
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| 08:53.22 | Orionshock | winkiller: i use RBM |
| 08:53.24 | Orionshock | works well |
| 08:53.27 | Xuerian | Ever since nwn I've avoided using tables as arrays for a long time |
| 08:53.39 | Xuerian | s/for a long time/like the plague/ |
| 08:53.43 | Xuerian | er |
| 08:53.50 | Xuerian | *strings as tables/arrays |
| 08:53.52 | Xuerian | tired... |
| 08:54.09 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";") |
| 08:54.09 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Name1;Name2;Name3, 2 |
| 08:54.30 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.split(";", (string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";"))) |
| 08:54.30 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Name1, Name2, Name3 |
| 08:54.36 | Arrowmaster | solved |
| 08:55.05 | Orionshock | the hell? |
| 08:55.19 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%q %q %q", string.split(";", (string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";")))) |
| 08:55.19 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: "Name1" "Name2" "Name3" |
| 08:55.36 | Arrowmaster | make sure you wrap the gsub in a set of ()'s |
| 08:55.44 | Arrowmaster | so you only get the first return |
| 08:56.01 | winkiller | Orionshock: thanks, will look |
| 08:56.39 | Orionshock | it'll ignore the 2nd one anyways |
| 08:56.45 | Arrowmaster | no it wont |
| 08:56.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%q %q %q", string.split(";", string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";"))) |
| 08:56.55 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: bad argument #4 to 'format' (string expected, got no value) |
| 08:56.57 | Arrowmaster | see |
| 08:56.59 | Orionshock | lua> string.split(":", string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";")) |
| 08:56.59 | lua_bot | Orionshock: Name1;Name2;Name3 |
| 08:57.11 | Orionshock | lua> {string.split(":", string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";"))} |
| 08:57.11 | lua_bot | Orionshock: table: 0x64f350 |
| 08:57.21 | Orionshock | hehe, not quite usefull |
| 08:57.23 | Arrowmaster | you have a : |
| 08:57.26 | Arrowmaster | instead of a ; |
| 08:57.52 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.split(";", string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";")) |
| 08:57.53 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Name1, Name2;Name3 |
| 08:57.55 | Arrowmaster | see |
| 08:58.00 | Orionshock | lua> string.split(";", (string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", ", ", ";"))) |
| 08:58.00 | lua_bot | Orionshock: Name1, Name2, Name3 |
| 08:58.05 | Orionshock | ya there we go |
| 08:58.23 | Arrowmaster | you could also just gsub out all spaces |
| 08:58.44 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.split(",", (string.gsub("Name1, Name2, Name3", " ", ""))) |
| 08:58.45 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Name1, Name2, Name3 |
| 09:00.13 | Auraka | winkiller i use dot timer, and it covers hots |
| 09:00.21 | Auraka | hasn't been updated in forever, but works just fine |
| 09:00.51 | winkiller | might be my bad for wrong reading :P DoTimer, HoTimer :P |
| 09:00.58 | winkiller | not yet fully awake |
| 09:01.35 | winkiller | Auraka: does it track several targets with Lifebloom on em? |
| 09:01.49 | winkiller | I remember ditching one mod for that |
| 09:02.20 | Fisker- | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:08.07 | Auraka | yeah, or at least i assume so |
| 09:08.13 | Auraka | works with my prayer of mending fine |
| 09:08.25 | Auraka | even shows charges left, and how it bounced to |
| 09:08.32 | Auraka | *who |
| 09:08.42 | Auraka | it's not an ace addon though |
| 09:08.58 | Auraka | now, the first problem with this old ass mod is it's not loading |
| 09:08.59 | Auraka | XD |
| 09:12.55 | Antiarc | If you right click someone's name in chat |
| 09:12.56 | Antiarc | One of the options is "promote to guild master" |
| 09:13.01 | Gngsk | anyone here use gridalert ? |
| 09:13.01 | Antiarc | Yeah, that won't cause accidents |
| 09:13.05 | Antiarc | OOPS MEANT TO INSPECT SORRY |
| 09:13.19 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 09:14.40 | Auraka | i don't get it :( |
| 09:14.49 | Fisker- | slaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:15.02 | nevcairiel | no confirmation message when handing over GM? |
| 09:15.12 | nevcairiel | like a static popup |
| 09:15.13 | nevcairiel | or so |
| 09:15.31 | Fisker- | doesn't seem like something you'd need nevcairiel |
| 09:15.39 | Fisker- | especially when it is so close to the inspect button |
| 09:15.52 | Fisker- | it's your punishment for not knowing your guildies well enough |
| 09:15.53 | nevcairiel | srsly |
| 09:15.54 | Xuerian | Examiner + keybind ftw |
| 09:15.55 | Orionshock | did they hotfix 2nd boss in hyjal? |
| 09:16.04 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: yeah |
| 09:16.16 | Fisker- | a week ago almost |
| 09:16.27 | nevcairiel | directly after the patch |
| 09:17.42 | yoshimo | it was fun while it was "Bugged" ;) |
| 09:21.05 | cncfanatics | he didn't summon his pets right ? |
| 09:21.25 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 09:21.54 | Neya | must've been boring for the other tanks though. |
| 09:21.59 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78973 10StatBlock_FPS/ (8 files): |
| 09:21.59 | CIA-45 | StatBlock_FPS: initial commit |
| 09:21.59 | CIA-45 | - StatBlockCore for showing your FPS |
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| 09:24.57 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78974 10StatBlock_FPS/ (. Changelog-StatBlock_RaidDPS-r78542.txt): |
| 09:24.57 | CIA-45 | StatBlock_FPS: |
| 09:24.57 | CIA-45 | - remove unneeded files |
| 09:24.57 | CIA-45 | - fixed externals |
| 09:25.52 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78975 10StatBlock_Latency/ (7 files): |
| 09:25.52 | CIA-45 | StatBlock_Latency: initial commit |
| 09:25.52 | CIA-45 | - StatBlockCore for showing your latency |
| 09:26.58 | CIA-45 | 03mfg * r78976 10StatBlock_Latency/: |
| 09:26.58 | CIA-45 | StatBlock_Latency: |
| 09:26.58 | CIA-45 | - fixed externals |
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| 09:31.52 | Fisker- | lets dance nevcairiel |
| 09:32.32 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 09:32.42 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:32.56 | Fisker- | then i have nothing to do |
| 09:33.06 | Fisker- | madness and so forth |
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| 09:39.26 | Orionshock | what's that one addon that showed you the gcd on your currsor? |
| 09:42.32 | Orionshock | any advanced users of recount in here? |
| 09:42.47 | Orionshock | i need a view that shows me IncHeal over time vs dmg taken over time |
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| 09:47.26 | starlon | Is it normal for UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP to fire right after UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START? |
| 09:57.13 | vhaarr | Shadowed: are you "Shadowd", author of the WoWUIUploader? |
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| 10:02.02 | Orphis | What's the status of major and usefull addons and the woltk beta ? |
| 10:02.20 | Orphis | Is there some grid somewhere telling which addons are working ? |
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| 10:03.06 | profalbert | Orphis: there is a (very small) section on wowinterface for wotlk-addons |
| 10:03.20 | cncfanatics | Orphis: there is one on US forums iirc |
| 10:03.25 | cncfanatics | us beta forums |
| 10:03.31 | Orphis | Ok, I'll check |
| 10:04.12 | profalbert | I'm thinking about where to put the wotlk-version of parrot |
| 10:04.23 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78977 10WitchHunt/locales/koKR.lua: WitchHunt: koKR Update |
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| 10:05.04 | Orphis | Oww, fubar doesn't work yet |
| 10:05.13 | profalbert | Orphis: works for me |
| 10:05.31 | Orphis | It's reported as not working :p |
| 10:06.30 | profalbert | hmm... I'll check with some plugins |
| 10:06.30 | Orphis | I wonder if Xperl is working too |
| 10:07.03 | profalbert | "Authenticating"-stuck .... |
| 10:07.07 | Orphis | What I'm interested in are experiencefu, ammofu, repairfu |
| 10:07.21 | Orphis | I'm stuck at downloading characters on EU server |
| 10:07.34 | Orphis | Oh, in fact I4ve just got them |
| 10:07.50 | profalbert | I managed to copy at 2 AM CEST ;) |
| 10:08.03 | omega | Orphis: fortress + fubar2broker or what its called? :p |
| 10:08.53 | CIA-45 | 03ananhaid * r78978 10Recount/locales/ (Recount-zhCN.lua Recount-zhTW.lua): |
| 10:08.53 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 10:08.53 | CIA-45 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 10:09.02 | Orphis | profalbert, yeah, I did the same, but now I'm trying to "play" with them, not watch the loading screen :p |
| 10:09.24 | Lukian | Anetheron: Infernals this week? yes/no |
| 10:09.27 | Orphis | Wow, it realy takes a long time to rename... |
| 10:09.47 | profalbert | still retrieving the list |
| 10:09.52 | profalbert | ... disconnected :( |
| 10:10.23 | Orphis | The server must be having a hard time ^^ |
| 10:10.31 | profalbert | I guess |
| 10:10.39 | Orphis | Playing on EU server ? |
| 10:10.45 | profalbert | yes |
| 10:12.02 | Orphis | How long did it take for you to rename your character ? |
| 10:12.14 | Orphis | It's usualy quick |
| 10:12.54 | profalbert | I renamed them right after copying (which took ~10 min) the server wasn't lagging at all then |
| 10:13.23 | profalbert | disconnnect again... |
| 10:13.35 | Orphis | I've launched the character copy right after having my beta key but the download took a long time |
| 10:13.59 | Orphis | I didn't bother downloading it from an external source, I don't really trust these usually |
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| 10:14.06 | profalbert | when I recieved the key, the char-copy-interface returned 403 ;) |
| 10:14.24 | yoshimo | too many people for the server ;) |
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| 10:14.56 | Orphis | It was fine at 3am when I got my key |
| 10:15.15 | profalbert | Orphis: you applied through account-management? |
| 10:15.27 | Orphis | I was at the WWI2008 |
| 10:15.52 | Orphis | But I also applied through the account management |
| 10:17.21 | profalbert | i wonder if these keys have been distributed yet |
| 10:17.23 | Orphis | Are there any mod author here ? I've heard that you could send all your craft list with one link with wotlk |
| 10:17.37 | Orphis | Have you finally decyphered every bit ? |
| 10:17.39 | nevcairiel | You can |
| 10:17.44 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 10:18.08 | Orphis | What's the status then ? |
| 10:18.14 | Fisker- | EU servers are having issues at the moment Orphis |
| 10:18.36 | Orphis | From what I've seen, it looks like a base64 with different characters (from 0x30 to 0x6F) |
| 10:18.37 | profalbert | then I'll try again later ;) |
| 10:18.56 | nevcairiel | We'll probably never be truly able to decode it back to what spells you know |
| 10:19.09 | nevcairiel | Except maybe by getting a spell list from the .dbc |
| 10:19.17 | nevcairiel | and somehow mapping that on there |
| 10:19.20 | nevcairiel | but rather pointless |
| 10:19.28 | Groktar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmLE7paJU8&feature=related |
| 10:21.36 | profalbert | Groktar: is that fake? |
| 10:21.45 | Orphis | Well, the point isn't really to map every bit but only to decypher and play with that :P |
| 10:30.28 | NeoTron | got WotLK beta installed. |
| 10:30.33 | NeoTron | now all I need is the key! |
| 10:31.01 | Trell_ | oh NeoTron - you didn't leave your beta key on the side earlier did you? |
| 10:31.05 | Trell_ | I think I ate it. |
| 10:31.08 | Trell_ | I thought it was cookies! |
| 10:31.55 | Orphis | Interesting... chinese loading screen... |
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| 10:33.16 | Vulcanus | ni hao |
| 10:33.32 | Vulcanus | u bai gold keke? u bai gold now keke? u go to my site, www.ubaigoldnowkeke.cn |
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| 10:33.57 | nevcairiel | If i didnt knew your nick, i was close to the kick button |
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| 10:34.19 | profalbert | HE WAS HACKED |
| 10:34.29 | profalbert | obviously |
| 10:34.40 | Fisker- | kisses nevcairiel |
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| 10:34.46 | Orphis | KB him before he empties the channel bank |
| 10:35.16 | Antiarc | "You dare approach me, moral? For the sake of your unborn children, pray that your cause is worthwhile." |
| 10:35.16 | Groktar | steals your beta keys |
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| 10:35.44 | Fisker- | Groktar |
| 10:35.45 | Fisker- | iTroll |
| 10:36.09 | Vulcanus | lmao nev |
| 10:36.33 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r78979 10Deadened/Modules/oUF_Castbar.lua: Deadened: Check to make sure oUF_Castbar is loaded instead of checking for the presence of oUF before hooking |
| 10:36.39 | Orphis | So now... it loads and loads and loads an loads... |
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| 10:45.15 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r78980 10oUF_Castbar/oUF_Castbar.lua: |
| 10:45.15 | CIA-45 | oUF_Castbar: |
| 10:45.15 | CIA-45 | - Add support for "safezone" latency indicator. Thanks to airtonix. |
| 10:45.15 | CIA-45 | - Don't register UNIT_SPELLCAST_STOP; it's bugged atm |
| 10:46.35 | Auraka | how interesting |
| 10:46.51 | Auraka | this guy makes a mod, which is awesome |
| 10:47.05 | Auraka | updates it, and thusly borks it |
| 10:47.13 | Auraka | then stops |
| 10:48.33 | Orionshock | anyway to turn the synching in recount off? |
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| 10:49.31 | Auraka | but thanks to this old working file, I might be able to rig this thing to do what i want :D |
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| 10:50.19 | profalbert_ | slaps profalbert_ around with a small 50lb Unix Manual |
| 10:51.55 | Auraka | and yeah, you can turn that shit off |
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| 10:53.06 | Fisker- | Anyone know why World of Warcrat keeps saying that my hardware has changed |
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| 10:53.18 | profalbert | Fisker-: I have that too |
| 10:53.21 | Trell_ | because you keep attempting to log in to the beta? |
| 10:53.27 | Trell_ | then the 'normal' wow |
| 10:53.35 | Fisker- | they fuck it up? |
| 10:54.15 | Trell_ | every time I try and log into beta, then back into normal wow |
| 10:54.15 | nevcairiel | Yup, it fucks your hardware |
| 10:54.16 | Trell_ | I get that message too |
| 10:54.16 | Fisker- | fail |
| 10:56.42 | Vulcanus | w00t, paladins buffed again |
| 10:57.07 | profalbert | BoS is gone.... |
| 10:57.18 | nevcairiel | thats old news |
| 10:57.21 | Neya | more gnomish sacrifices! |
| 10:57.35 | Vulcanus | no they updated talent points just recently |
| 10:57.42 | Fisker- | i'm sad though |
| 10:57.48 | Fisker- | should've transferred with crusader aura |
| 10:57.55 | Vulcanus | vindication is only 2 points with 5% more reduction, BoM buffed too |
| 10:58.01 | Fisker- | now i'm stuck with Frost Resistance aura and crusader :( |
| 10:58.17 | Fisker- | Crusader + Concentration aura would've been win |
| 10:58.39 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: you should be removed from the beta and from live |
| 10:59.08 | Trell_ | and from life' |
| 10:59.14 | nevcairiel | truth |
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| 11:01.37 | ReAn[Laptop] | can anyone see something wrong with this? |
| 11:01.38 | ReAn[Laptop] | http://pastebin.com/m73f89e68 |
| 11:01.41 | Fisker- | try and stop me cncfanatics |
| 11:01.59 | ReAn[Laptop] | Cuz it's bitching that "hidden" isn't a valid datatype |
| 11:03.46 | nevcairiel | ReAn[Laptop]: you need to do { <datatype> = { -- stuff goes here -- } } |
| 11:03.49 | nevcairiel | <datatype> generally bring profile |
| 11:03.56 | nevcairiel | s/bring/being/ |
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| 11:05.11 | ReAn[Laptop] | ooooooooooh |
| 11:05.12 | ReAn[Laptop] | thanks |
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| 11:08.49 | JoshBorke | morning nevcairiel |
| 11:08.53 | JoshBorke | how are your colonies? |
| 11:08.59 | nevcairiel | pretty empty |
| 11:09.02 | nevcairiel | l4 warehouses or so |
| 11:09.35 | JoshBorke | heh, yea, lvl 3 here |
| 11:09.40 | JoshBorke | building my GR though |
| 11:09.53 | nevcairiel | yeah building the first one here too |
| 11:10.15 | nevcairiel | stupid 16 hours to get resources over |
| 11:10.33 | JoshBorke | ouch |
| 11:11.02 | JoshBorke | gives you plenty of time to upgrade warehouse :-D |
| 11:14.13 | nevcairiel | truth :P |
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| 11:16.45 | cncfanatics | JoshBorke, nevcairiel: what game ? |
| 11:16.54 | nevcairiel | ikariam.com |
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| 11:17.39 | cncfanatics | web based ? |
| 11:17.42 | nevcairiel | yup |
| 11:17.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 11:17.54 | Fisker- | Do you get raped by other people constantly? |
| 11:18.01 | cncfanatics | yes Fisker- |
| 11:18.01 | Fisker- | Who have like 10 billion moar resources than you? |
| 11:18.03 | nevcairiel | nah, we do the raping |
| 11:18.12 | Fisker- | then do not want |
| 11:18.33 | Fisker- | I remember playing a game called ogame |
| 11:18.35 | nevcairiel | actually, clad got raped by that one alliance |
| 11:18.48 | Fisker- | So i just took idle planets and got some resources |
| 11:18.49 | nevcairiel | but we joined a bigger one now, and it stopped |
| 11:19.09 | Fisker- | Then i sent it to some wrong planet and then he totally obliterated me |
| 11:19.16 | Fisker- | yay! |
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| 11:23.07 | EthanCentaurai | Are Turan or Fenlis here? |
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| 11:29.13 | EthanCentaurai | guess not :P |
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| 11:42.29 | EthanCentaurai | Would anyone mind if I try to convert myBindings2 to use Ace3? (or re-release an Ace3'd version as myBindings3) |
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| 11:47.19 | CIA-45 | 037destiny * r78981 10Recount/locales/Recount-koKR.lua: |
| 11:47.19 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 11:47.19 | CIA-45 | - koKR Update |
| 11:47.42 | cncfanatics | EthanCentaurai: if it ain't broken, don't fix it |
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| 11:50.53 | Pneumatus | is there any indication as to whether both ace2 and ace3 will be updated to wotlk, or just ace3? |
| 11:51.29 | profalbert | ace2 works with wotlk, doesn't it? |
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| 11:52.07 | Pneumatus | no idea, not had a beta key :< |
| 11:52.24 | cncfanatics | its a framework |
| 11:52.26 | cncfanatics | it most likely works |
| 11:52.33 | cncfanatics | or needs only some minor changes |
| 11:52.40 | profalbert | ckknight made a few adjustments, so it works now |
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| 11:54.03 | nevcairiel | Why do people not read blue posts before patching everything up |
| 11:54.12 | Fisker- | >:o? |
| 11:54.20 | nevcairiel | the change to AceConsole-2.0 will have to be reverted on the next beta push |
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| 11:55.45 | Fisker- | ah |
| 11:56.07 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: was there already a post about the new secure stuff ? |
| 11:56.30 | nevcairiel | no, and there wont be for a while |
| 11:56.43 | nevcairiel | they are still refactoring parts of it, and until thats done, no info for you |
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| 11:57.48 | cncfanatics | k |
| 11:57.59 | cncfanatics | not worth starting coding for it then ? |
| 11:58.45 | Fisker- | well your time is worthless |
| 11:58.46 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 11:59.01 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: don't get me started about yours |
| 11:59.17 | Fisker- | if we trolled just a bit more we'd be living under a bridge |
| 11:59.36 | cncfanatics | I don't troll half as much as you :p |
| 12:01.40 | cncfanatics | wtf ? |
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| 12:01.48 | cncfanatics | my guild just accepted the most sucky application ever |
| 12:01.57 | nevcairiel | yours? |
| 12:02.00 | nevcairiel | j/k |
| 12:02.05 | cncfanatics | no, seriously, wtf |
| 12:02.18 | cncfanatics | http://www.ave-guild.eu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=397 |
| 12:02.28 | cncfanatics | seriously, I'd have laughed at him and tell him to put more effort in his app :p |
| 12:03.11 | Fisker- | lol cncfanatics |
| 12:03.23 | nevcairiel | I dont think its that bad |
| 12:03.41 | ckknight | nevcairiel: well, if it has to be reverted, that's fine, I'll try to take care of it as soon as the next beta patch arives |
| 12:03.45 | cncfanatics | he didn't even bother running a spellcheck |
| 12:05.09 | Orionshock | WooT [Hammer of Judgement] |
| 12:05.19 | Orionshock | for my balance druid set :D |
| 12:05.24 | Stanzilla | gz |
| 12:05.33 | nevcairiel | balance is the only set i refuse to collect |
| 12:05.39 | nevcairiel | plus i wouldnt have space anyway |
| 12:05.59 | nevcairiel | already collecting feral dps and feral tank <.< |
| 12:06.05 | nevcairiel | (and my main healing of course) |
| 12:06.05 | cncfanatics | well, in wotlk it'll be the same as ur healing set |
| 12:06.07 | Kalroth_ | cncfanatics: considering your guild doesn't raid at all, you should be happy you get any applications at all :) |
| 12:06.13 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: not really |
| 12:06.14 | cncfanatics | Kalroth: we're full :p |
| 12:06.24 | nevcairiel | some items still have crit/hit, that healing items dont have |
| 12:06.25 | cncfanatics | and get enough applications to fill our roster completely once more :p |
| 12:06.35 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: well, it'll be closer |
| 12:07.47 | Josh_Borke | ~lart nevcairiel |
| 12:07.47 | purl | DoSes nevcairiel |
| 12:07.57 | nevcairiel | what now Josh_Borke |
| 12:08.23 | Antiarc | Turn The Tables is insanely annoying in a 5-man |
| 12:08.28 | Antiarc | It's going to be amazing in a 25-man |
| 12:08.33 | Antiarc | BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK BLOCK |
| 12:08.35 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: you could always use a good larting |
| 12:08.44 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: eh? |
| 12:08.52 | Josh_Borke | Antiarc: 25-man ffa? |
| 12:08.55 | Josh_Borke | that's a terrible idea |
| 12:09.01 | Antiarc | Any time a party or raid member blocks, dodges, or parries, you make the holy shield graphic/noise |
| 12:09.17 | nevcairiel | it'll probably be throttled at some point |
| 12:09.22 | Josh_Borke | that is awesome |
| 12:09.28 | Josh_Borke | good thing i listen to music and not the game :-D |
| 12:09.36 | nevcairiel | (and get a new sound/animation) |
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| 12:18.01 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r78982 10Parrot/ (Code/CombatEvents.lua Data/CombatEvents.lua): |
| 12:18.01 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 12:18.01 | CIA-45 | - add some missing events (including some Mana-gain-events) |
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| 12:24.09 | SoulAnkh | yo |
| 12:24.20 | cncfanatics | hello |
| 12:25.00 | Orionshock | ok, general question; for SCT style addons why are combat events so deeply entrenched into the addon? |
| 12:25.13 | Orionshock | why not have it as a module / plugin ? |
| 12:25.26 | profalbert | it is modular in parrot now :P |
| 12:25.34 | SoulAnkh | has anyone had trouble with bartender throwing up a big green square where the buffs normally sit? |
| 12:25.48 | Orionshock | right but it's got so many weird methods.. and very complicated... |
| 12:25.50 | Orionshock | :\ |
| 12:26.16 | profalbert | Orionshock: what do you want to do with it? |
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| 12:26.49 | SoulAnkh | cant play wow unless he gets rid of the gaping green square sitting in the middle of his screen |
| 12:26.54 | SoulAnkh | o,O |
| 12:26.57 | Orionshock | sorry half asleep and prolly not making sence atm :\ |
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| 12:27.55 | SoulAnkh | has anyone got any idea about the buff issue? |
| 12:28.12 | Orionshock | SoulAnkh: what issue? |
| 12:28.20 | Dark_Elf | has a big green square on my screen too, but im not using bartender :( |
| 12:28.28 | SoulAnkh | :/ |
| 12:28.33 | SoulAnkh | where the buffs normally are? |
| 12:28.38 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.57 | Josh_Borke | Orionshock: i believe that the reason SCT style addons have combat events entrenched in them is because they were written specifically for combat |
| 12:29.20 | Josh_Borke | Orionshock: hence the Scrolling Combat Text expansion of SCT |
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| 12:31.08 | Orionshock | Josh_Borke: true, but SCT stuff is used for just about anything now a days |
| 12:31.15 | Orionshock | that and blizzard loves to change stuff |
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| 12:32.52 | SoulAnkh | dark elf |
| 12:32.59 | SoulAnkh | what other addons do your have? |
| 12:33.02 | Josh_Borke | Orionshock: people have said: "oh look, Scrolling message buffers I can use, why don't I put stuff there". So that's not a morphing by SCT, it's a redirection of use by other addon authors. Perhaps what is needed is a separation of display (the scrolling message buffers) and data (the combat events etc) |
| 12:33.18 | Dark_Elf | too many to list |
| 12:33.31 | SoulAnkh | hmm |
| 12:33.31 | Josh_Borke | Dark_Elf: that's what screenshots are for |
| 12:33.41 | Orionshock | SoulAnkh: ?? what's /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() say when u mouse over it? |
| 12:33.49 | SoulAnkh | oh |
| 12:33.56 | SoulAnkh | something about a mil value |
| 12:34.00 | SoulAnkh | nil rather |
| 12:34.09 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.15 | SoulAnkh | ill do it again |
| 12:34.19 | SoulAnkh | and the same error will come up |
| 12:34.27 | Orionshock | re read my last |
| 12:34.32 | Dark_Elf | my big green square was in middle, i can drag it around but i have no idea what addon produces it |
| 12:34.38 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.04 | SoulAnkh | same |
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| 12:35.15 | Orionshock | you got to mouse over the frame :P |
| 12:35.39 | SoulAnkh | rofl |
| 12:35.42 | SoulAnkh | thatd help lol |
| 12:35.58 | Orionshock | -.- too many years of customer service.. |
| 12:36.00 | SoulAnkh | nah same error |
| 12:36.24 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:36.42 | SoulAnkh | well this customer isnt an idiot |
| 12:36.54 | SoulAnkh | i neither copied it wrongly nor failed to mouseover |
| 12:36.57 | SoulAnkh | :P |
| 12:37.05 | SoulAnkh | still nil value |
| 12:37.23 | Orionshock | well start a binary check |
| 12:37.25 | Orionshock | good luck |
| 12:37.31 | Orionshock | i'd recommend an addon called ACP |
| 12:37.34 | Orionshock | helps things along |
| 12:38.02 | SoulAnkh | mm myabe |
| 12:38.07 | SoulAnkh | maybe* |
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| 12:39.47 | Dark_Elf | hmm i got altoholic and fubar2broker errors in my buggrabber logs |
| 12:40.10 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07WotLK * r78983 10Parrot/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:40.10 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 12:40.10 | CIA-45 | - merge in fixes from trunk |
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| 12:43.14 | SoulAnkh | btw im pretty sure it was facade buffs |
| 12:43.17 | SoulAnkh | dark elf |
| 12:43.25 | SoulAnkh | disabled it and it works fine |
| 12:44.22 | Dark_Elf | im not sure i use facade buffs |
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| 12:47.38 | ccKep | goddamnit |
| 12:47.55 | ccKep | stupido-casual-drood on my guild received beta key |
| 12:48.00 | ccKep | stfu goddamnit |
| 12:48.11 | kenlyric | did he go to blizzcon? |
| 12:48.18 | nevcairiel | or wwi? :P |
| 12:48.21 | ccKep | neither |
| 12:48.33 | kenlyric | in alpha? |
| 12:48.37 | ccKep | thats a "super-lol-story" he just told on teamspeak |
| 12:48.49 | ccKep | I'll try to translate as wordly as possible |
| 12:49.20 | ccKep | "Just send an email to Blizzard support if WotLK will run on my mashine and such" (he has some old quad-core, dunno what exactly) |
| 12:49.26 | Trell_ | did he scream on vent 'lololol i got a beta key, and you didn't you losers' |
| 12:49.29 | ccKep | and support replied with beta key Oo |
| 12:49.32 | Trell_ | thats what I would've done. |
| 12:49.49 | Trell_ | *runs off to try it out* |
| 12:49.55 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 12:50.00 | ccKep | I'm an officer in our guild, I'll need to get that guy kicked -.- |
| 12:50.01 | cncfanatics | ccKep: sure he ain't just trolling around ? |
| 12:50.15 | ccKep | 90% sure, he's not the guy to troll around |
| 12:50.50 | ccKep | but that story is just....... meh |
| 12:50.50 | ccKep | needs to write email |
| 12:51.09 | ccKep | "hey guis, I have a fancy core2duo and I want to test if wotlk runs on my machine! giev key!" |
| 12:51.11 | ccKep | *guys |
| 12:51.28 | cncfanatics | ccKep: bullshit most prolly |
| 12:51.44 | ccKep | thats what I thought / am thinking |
| 12:51.48 | Pneumatus | is there some kind of tooltip voodoo that i can use to put a raid icon into a tooltip? |
| 12:51.53 | ccKep | I'll try to get his login to verify ^.^ |
| 12:52.13 | Josh_Borke | Pneumatus: yes, each line is a fontstring which now supports objects |
| 12:53.13 | Dark_Elf | i have an old 4 year old p4, i want to test wotlk to see if it runs on my doorstop machine, give key! :p just kidding! |
| 12:53.40 | Xinhuan | i don't recommend using texture icons in a fontstring that is to be used inside a tooltip |
| 12:53.48 | Xinhuan | causes a lot of word wrapping issues inside the tooltip |
| 12:53.52 | Xinhuan | dependant on the uiscale |
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| 12:54.56 | Orionshock | put a space in it |
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| 12:55.58 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:03.25 | Xinhuan | doesn't actually work |
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| 13:44.35 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_072308_064308.jpg |
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| 13:45.22 | Industrial | ho shi-beta |
| 13:45.24 | Industrial | *looks* |
| 13:45.39 | Industrial | lol. |
| 13:46.10 | ckknight | Antiarc: we have to hide cogwheel! |
| 13:46.10 | cncfanatics | Antiarc: WTS cogwheel |
| 13:46.20 | cncfanatics | rofl ckknight |
| 13:47.24 | Chompers | default ui eaw eaw |
| 13:49.21 | Antiarc | Hey now |
| 13:49.23 | Antiarc | I'm using Chatter |
| 13:49.26 | Antiarc | (wtb baggins) |
| 13:49.33 | Chompers | well that's okay then |
| 13:49.51 | Chompers | didn't take you long to wotlk chatter up did it |
| 13:50.52 | Antiarc | Nah |
| 13:50.56 | Fisker- | wtb onebag |
| 13:50.59 | Antiarc | Mostly juts adding self in a few places |
| 13:51.03 | Antiarc | And some ace3 fixes |
| 13:51.03 | Fisker- | well actually |
| 13:51.06 | Fisker- | wtb servers first |
| 13:51.11 | Industrial | wtb beta |
| 13:51.18 | Industrial | if you enable beta will you be able to play normal |
| 13:51.19 | Industrial | ? |
| 13:51.22 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 13:51.24 | Industrial | cause that'd be a problem. |
| 13:51.25 | Industrial | k |
| 13:51.45 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 13:51.47 | genetik- | jesus.. 2100 discovery exp? |
| 13:51.51 | Fisker- | *Logging into WoW* "You cannot access TBC without testing for atleast 8 hours" |
| 13:51.53 | Chompers | i killed council, awwww yeah |
| 13:51.57 | Fisker- | no |
| 13:52.02 | Antiarc | The first quests are 20k per |
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| 13:52.08 | Industrial | lol! |
| 13:52.22 | Fisker- | i got a quest to talk to someone |
| 13:52.23 | Industrial | I hope damage doesnt scale into 10k's |
| 13:52.25 | Fisker- | 20k exp and 8gold |
| 13:52.25 | genetik- | that's gotta be to speed up the beta leveling.. or at least i hope it's not that inflated |
| 13:52.31 | Fisker- | and i was like ?? |
| 13:52.37 | Industrial | I hope damage doesnt scale into 10k's |
| 13:52.38 | Industrial | ^ |
| 13:52.46 | Industrial | that;d be retarded :P |
| 13:52.49 | Fisker- | Paladins can already crit for 20k |
| 13:52.51 | Fisker- | with JoC |
| 13:52.52 | Pneumatus | is there a way to GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine() so that the 'right' part is left-aligned rather than right-aligned? |
| 13:52.59 | Pneumatus | or am i going about it the wrong way? |
| 13:53.00 | genetik- | heh.. no, what'd be retarded is how much threat i'd have to put out to compensate for that |
| 13:53.01 | Industrial | shammies crit for 37000 :P |
| 13:53.03 | genetik- | heh |
| 13:53.08 | Fisker- | http://chuckg.org/dump/2008/loljoc.jpg |
| 13:53.14 | genetik- | wtb 4000 tps |
| 13:53.24 | yoshimo | will be be able to code alternative updaters like WUU for the new wowace site as well? |
| 13:53.47 | genetik- | Fisker-: hah |
| 13:54.33 | Industrial | old vid at 60 |
| 13:54.37 | Industrial | still winner afaik |
| 13:54.38 | Industrial | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5662098928894696234&q |
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| 13:55.06 | Fisker- | was fixed before live though, wasn't it? |
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| 13:55.53 | cncfanatics | yoshimo: no |
| 13:56.23 | Fisker- | btw Industrial |
| 13:56.24 | Fisker- | reported |
| 13:56.25 | cncfanatics | 19k crit Fisker- :o |
| 13:56.58 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_072308_065638.jpg |
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| 13:57.36 | sb | Antiarc: thats wow? :o |
| 13:57.40 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 13:57.42 | sb | looks great imo |
| 13:57.56 | Antiarc | This zone looks amazing |
| 13:57.57 | Elkano | random image: fun for the whole familly: http://einestages.spiegel.de/hund-images/2008/07/09/25/ed5122f7b2d46cd2fb48c5e42463e913_image_document_large_featured_borderless.jpg |
| 13:58.01 | Industrial | Fisker-: sorry? |
| 13:58.48 | Industrial | Elkano: lol. |
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| 14:03.27 | ckknight | Elkano: there's someone sewing in there. |
| 14:03.36 | Industrial | Fisker-: ? |
| 14:03.37 | Elkano | yeah ^^ |
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| 14:10.08 | cog|sleep | Antiarc: lol! |
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| 14:16.04 | cog|sleep | Antiarc: what zone is that ? |
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| 14:16.29 | Antiarc | Sholazar |
| 14:16.40 | Antiarc | In the northwestern corner, near the Savage Glade |
| 14:16.49 | cogwheel | thakns =) |
| 14:16.52 | cogwheel | +correct spelling |
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| 14:17.22 | nevcairiel | now give key so i can go there too |
| 14:17.23 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 14:21.19 | CIA-45 | 03next96 * r78984 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 14:21.19 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:21.19 | CIA-45 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 14:28.35 | Gagorian | !ap 219 |
| 14:28.35 | Xinhuan | 219 rating gives 62(5s), 54(3s) and 47(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:28.38 | Gagorian | !ar 219 |
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| 14:28.41 | Gagorian | !ar 219 |
| 14:28.42 | Xinhuan | 219 arena points require 932(5s), 1068(3s) and 1247(2s) team rating. |
| 14:29.52 | Gagorian | !ap 1423 |
| 14:29.52 | Xinhuan | 1423 rating gives 327(5s), 287(3s) and 248(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:30.07 | kagaro | !ap1506 |
| 14:30.12 | kagaro | !ap 1506 |
| 14:30.13 | Xinhuan | 1506 rating gives 350(5s), 308(3s) and 266(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:30.24 | kagaro | I need a 5v5 team |
| 14:30.45 | Gagorian | !ar 208 |
| 14:30.45 | Xinhuan | 208 arena points require 882(5s), 1011(3s) and 1181(2s) team rating. |
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| 14:39.47 | Obelixprime | !ap 1608 |
| 14:39.47 | Xinhuan | 1608 rating gives 475(5s), 418(3s) and 361(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:40.15 | DARKGuy | !ap 2039 |
| 14:40.15 | Xinhuan | 2039 rating gives 1104(5s), 971(3s) and 839(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 14:40.18 | DARKGuy | nono, damn |
| 14:40.22 | DARKGuy | !points 2039 |
| 14:40.23 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
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| 14:40.28 | DARKGuy | :( |
| 14:40.35 | Lukian_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:41.36 | kagaro | !points 1511 |
| 14:41.37 | Xinhuan | 1511 arena points require INF(5s), INF(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 14:41.39 | AckisWork | DARKGuy: http://ackis.myminicity.com :D |
| 14:42.07 | kagaro | !points 1200 |
| 14:42.08 | Xinhuan | 1200 arena points require 2125(5s), 2337(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
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| 14:45.44 | Obelixprime | AckisWork: that like sim city? |
| 14:46.00 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78985 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/sets.en.lua: |
| 14:46.00 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 14:46.00 | CIA-45 | - merged Dungeon Set 3 |
| 14:47.10 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r78986 10AtlasLoot/ (15 files in 4 dirs): |
| 14:47.10 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 14:47.10 | CIA-45 | - merged Dungeon Set 3 |
| 14:47.10 | CIA-45 | - minor bugs fixed |
| 14:48.18 | AckisWork | Obelixprime: a lamer version, yes |
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| 14:55.45 | Obelixprime | AckisWork: there's a somewhat similar facebook application where you can add certain citizens to a city, and depending on the number of citizens in your city and which types of citizens you have you can unlock other citizens |
| 14:56.12 | AckisWork | ahh cool... I kinda stopped playing facebook games lol |
| 14:56.55 | Pneumatus | ckknight: about? |
| 14:56.59 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 14:57.00 | ckknight | sure am |
| 14:57.01 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 14:57.13 | Obelixprime | AckisWork: me too, the interface is too laggy |
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| 14:59.48 | CIA-45 | 03schelli * r78987 10FuBar_PotHerbFu/embeds.xml: FuBar_PotHerbFu : added embeds.xml |
| 15:01.25 | Antiarc | OH GOD RUN |
| 15:01.27 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_072308_080105.jpg |
| 15:02.35 | Orphis | Antiarc, you've managed to connect to the server ? |
| 15:02.43 | Fisker- | he's US |
| 15:02.45 | Antiarc | I've been on for quite a while :P |
| 15:02.49 | Fisker- | shakes hands with the beta server |
| 15:03.12 | Orphis | Damn US people, they want to keep the beta for themselves ! |
| 15:03.12 | Fisker- | nice to meet you etc, beta server |
| 15:03.17 | Fisker- | LET GO OF MY HAND BETA SERVER |
| 15:03.20 | profalbert | Fisker- goes better? |
| 15:03.24 | profalbert | äh beta? |
| 15:03.25 | profalbert | omg |
| 15:03.50 | Orphis | Fisker-, yes, that's the longest handshake I've ever seen |
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| 15:04.25 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r78988 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 15:04.25 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 15:04.25 | CIA-45 | - fix some more typos (Killing Blows, Extra Attacks) |
| 15:04.25 | CIA-45 | - fix resists for DoTs |
| 15:04.29 | Obelixprime | antiarc: you were in the f&f alpha? |
| 15:04.32 | Antiarc | yes |
| 15:04.40 | Obelixprime | nice |
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| 15:04.59 | Fisker- | i am so tired ;_; |
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| 15:05.17 | Obelixprime | I have a spot free in my bed Fisker |
| 15:05.56 | Fisker- | i can't sleep with all that handshaking i'll be doing |
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| 15:07.39 | Antiarc | Zul'drak isn't bad at all for a troll zone |
| 15:08.05 | jy__ | why they made a wordwide beta server :'( |
| 15:08.26 | Fisker- | worldwide? |
| 15:08.26 | jy__ | mmh |
| 15:08.31 | jy__ | its eu+us |
| 15:08.32 | AckisWork | Fisker-: I got a beta key last night |
| 15:08.40 | jy__ | i(ve been able to log in a few minutes |
| 15:08.41 | Fisker- | shakes moar hands with the beta server |
| 15:08.51 | jy__ | there were us ppl and eu ppl |
| 15:09.00 | fewyn | morning my lovely #wowace |
| 15:09.03 | Fisker- | US and EU servers are seperate |
| 15:09.04 | Funkeh` | Antiarc, nice model reuse there |
| 15:09.13 | Fisker- | no u AckisWork |
| 15:09.17 | ckknight | morning, fewyn |
| 15:09.25 | fewyn | how is everyone today? |
| 15:09.32 | AckisWork | Fisker-: it was for an EU account however :( |
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| 15:09.35 | Antiarc | Whoa |
| 15:09.37 | Fisker- | owned |
| 15:09.39 | Antiarc | This gargoyle just swooped in |
| 15:09.40 | Fisker- | give it to me AckisWork |
| 15:09.42 | jy__ | i'm eu and realm is coldarra |
| 15:09.44 | Antiarc | Picked up an Argent Dawn dude |
| 15:09.47 | Antiarc | Flew him up 100 feet |
| 15:09.49 | Antiarc | And dropped him |
| 15:09.51 | jy__ | someone us got a realm name ? |
| 15:09.55 | jy__ | from beta ? |
| 15:10.03 | Fisker- | northrend and lich king |
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| 15:14.53 | DARKGuy | is now playing: Flyleaf - I'm So Sick |
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| 15:18.04 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_072308_075733.jpg |
| 15:18.08 | Antiarc | nother pretty shot |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r78989 10Omen/ModuleBase.lua: |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-45 | Omen: Ignore the "Title Bar" for the options "Collapse hides bar list" and |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-45 | "Collapse hides entire Omen window". The title bar was previously counted as a |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-45 | bar, preventing these 2 options from working if the "Show Title Bar" option is |
| 15:18.13 | CIA-45 | turned on in Single Target mode. |
| 15:18.26 | profalbert | I have to stop klicking those links |
| 15:19.25 | VonhintenHOME` | I wonder why blizzard isn't using more bump mapping |
| 15:19.33 | VonhintenHOME` | That floor could have looked a lot better |
| 15:19.46 | Stanzilla | performance :P |
| 15:20.15 | Antiarc | That can saturate your shader pipeline pretty fast |
| 15:20.20 | Harshmage | So, is there a Wrath beta addon site out there? I'm twitching with the lack of ...well... Cartographer dosen't accept the right or left click to zoom in and out of the map... |
| 15:20.22 | sb | Antiarc: no mobs? :o |
| 15:20.32 | Antiarc | Not in that part of the zone |
| 15:20.39 | dafire | there is a beta section at wowi |
| 15:20.42 | Antiarc | The zone has plenty of +5s and +6s on me :P |
| 15:20.57 | VonhintenHOME` | How's the rogue leveling? |
| 15:21.02 | Obelixprime | wtb diablo 3 beta/alpha |
| 15:21.03 | VonhintenHOME` | getting your ass kicked? |
| 15:21.12 | Stanzilla | Antiarc has no glaives :( |
| 15:21.21 | Antiarc | We've only seen one glaive ever :( |
| 15:21.32 | Antiarc | Rogue levelling is fine. I'm mutilate which makes it harder |
| 15:21.35 | Antiarc | But it's still fast |
| 15:21.40 | VonhintenHOME` | having no glaives = no suffering when it's replaced by a blue |
| 15:21.44 | Pneumatus | anyone know if there's an addon that logs all your gold transactions and gives info on your income/expenditure to different things like repairs, AH profits, AH cuts etc |
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| 15:22.10 | copystring | anyone knows a spell that drains health, non periodic and not death coil? |
| 15:22.21 | VonhintenHOME` | MoneyFu does money, beancounter in auctioneer does AH profits etc |
| 15:22.59 | VonhintenHOME` | copystring, the spriest vampiric is like that, only not really a drain |
| 15:23.16 | Pneumatus | yeh, MoneyFu does general gold in/out but doesnt breakdown to differnt types of income/expenditure |
| 15:23.19 | copystring | vampiric touch? |
| 15:23.23 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah |
| 15:23.30 | Fisker- | all i wanna do is not shake hands with the server and log in |
| 15:23.31 | Fisker- | :O |
| 15:23.38 | copystring | ah right, thanks :) |
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| 15:24.29 | VonhintenHOME` | I would imagine the spell associated with the lifesteal weapon enchant fits that too |
| 15:25.03 | VonhintenHOME` | there's no real DD lifetap in WoW, which is surprising |
| 15:25.05 | copystring | how about set bonus of shadoweave set? |
| 15:25.13 | Pneumatus | oh, AuditorFu might be what im looking for |
| 15:25.14 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, that too |
| 15:25.20 | copystring | cool |
| 15:26.25 | copystring | Shadowmend, just tried it, shows up as periodic heal |
| 15:30.44 | digmouse | so, did kaelten posted the irc disscussion log? |
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| 15:31.31 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07WotLK * r78990 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 15:31.31 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 15:31.31 | CIA-45 | - merge in fixes from trunk |
| 15:31.31 | CIA-45 | - Misses for DoTs |
| 15:31.31 | CIA-45 | - Extra Attacks and Killing Blows |
| 15:34.51 | digmouse | o.O WotLK Parrot |
| 15:35.06 | profalbert | of course |
| 15:35.55 | profalbert | it doesn't contain anything new... just fixed parrot to not throw any error-messages so far |
| 15:35.56 | digmouse | just start using parrot instead of SCT on my alt |
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| 15:36.20 | digmouse | and we dont need anything new i think |
| 15:36.20 | Fisker- | OMG OGM |
| 15:36.25 | Fisker- | Retrieving Character list |
| 15:36.33 | Fisker- | Server first |
| 15:36.34 | digmouse | God bless you Fisker |
| 15:37.03 | profalbert | The next thing that I'll fix in the branch is the overheal (it shows in combatlog now) |
| 15:37.17 | Fisker- | nooo u |
| 15:37.30 | Chompers | Fisker- |
| 15:37.35 | profalbert | Fisker- disconnected? |
| 15:37.41 | Chompers | you better not be logging into a beta server |
| 15:37.51 | Obelixprime | <3 profalbert |
| 15:37.55 | Obelixprime | i love parrot so much |
| 15:38.06 | Antiarc | Man |
| 15:38.07 | Fisker- | profalbert yarr ;_; |
| 15:38.10 | Antiarc | 72 is a huge letdown for rogues |
| 15:38.11 | Fisker- | i'm not Chompers |
| 15:38.18 | Antiarc | New rank of...FEINT! |
| 15:38.19 | Fisker- | I AM ATTEMPTING TO LOG INTO A BETA SERVER ;_; |
| 15:38.21 | Antiarc | New rank of....SAP! |
| 15:38.29 | profalbert | the beta-server won't let him |
| 15:38.46 | Chompers | what level do you get a new SS rank? |
| 15:38.47 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: thats what useless people get for stealing keys |
| 15:38.52 | digmouse | uh does us or eu client throws out a WorldStateFrame "table is nil" error when zoning into a BG? |
| 15:38.58 | Fisker- | i didn't steal it nevcairiel ! |
| 15:39.40 | Chompers | i'll kill you now Fisker- |
| 15:39.54 | Chompers | prepare. |
| 15:39.56 | Fisker- | go ahead |
| 15:39.57 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 15:39.59 | Fisker- | This is EU |
| 15:40.10 | Fisker- | it won't be fixed until sometime inside the next expansion beta |
| 15:40.28 | digmouse | oh no |
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| 15:44.09 | Aiiane | Antiarc: Reminds me of a certain level for pallies where all you get is a new Retribution Aura and Frost Resist Aura |
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| 15:45.09 | Pneumatus | any of you lot playing a shaman on wotlk beta? |
| 15:45.21 | Fisker- | they have improved ret aura now |
| 15:46.24 | Aiiane | Yes, I saw that Fisker- |
| 15:46.26 | Kaelten | hows it goin? |
| 15:46.36 | Aiiane | morning kaelten :) |
| 15:47.01 | Fisker- | fine |
| 15:47.06 | Fisker- | dying though |
| 15:47.51 | profalbert | Fisker- stop bugging the beta-server... I wanna login |
| 15:48.01 | Fisker- | no u |
| 15:48.18 | nevcairiel | didnt you read the "Breaking News" message? |
| 15:48.23 | profalbert | just did |
| 15:48.29 | profalbert | anyway... like to blame Fisker- |
| 15:48.45 | Fisker- | it's actually lies nevcairiel |
| 15:48.47 | Fisker- | sorta |
| 15:49.00 | Harshmage | profalbert: is there a special place on the SVN where you updated parrot for Wrath? or is it in the standard trunk spot? |
| 15:49.15 | profalbert | Harshmage: it's in branches |
| 15:49.25 | profalbert | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/Parrot/WotLK |
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| 15:49.35 | Harshmage | very well, thank you much |
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| 16:02.26 | Harshmage | Anyone know if CK's new Cartographer 3.0 works proper in the beta realm? |
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| 16:02.40 | AckisWork | I think ckknight might know |
| 16:02.49 | ckknight | I know all! |
| 16:02.59 | AckisWork | ahahah |
| 16:03.04 | ckknight | Harshmage: not properly, some things don't work |
| 16:03.10 | ckknight | it _mostly_ works, though |
| 16:03.13 | ckknight | sorta |
| 16:03.23 | ckknight | Northrend has issues |
| 16:03.29 | Obelixprime | So, with the curseforge client i read that you cna't just hit (Update all addons) like WAU... I haven't used the curseforge client but does it list addons that require updates? |
| 16:03.32 | Harshmage | aight...I figured it did... |
| 16:03.35 | ckknight | you can see it, but you can't see the overlays on the zones cause that data's not collected yet |
| 16:03.44 | ckknight | if you want to collect that data, it goes in your SVs automatically |
| 16:03.50 | ckknight | if you send that to me, I'll include it |
| 16:04.03 | nevcairiel | Obelixprime: yeah it marks all addons with new versions with some greenish icon |
| 16:04.10 | ckknight | Obelixprime: you can click, update addon, but for non-premium, you have to go one-by-one |
| 16:04.15 | Harshmage | aight...I'll gather what I can this evening... |
| 16:04.32 | ckknight | Harshmage: basically, if you travel to a zone, you'll discover it and it'll go in the SV |
| 16:04.41 | Obelixprime | fair enough |
| 16:04.43 | ckknight | you can do this in Cart2 or Cart3 |
| 16:06.10 | Harshmage | well, I know that the Crystalsong Forest zone is all borked at the moment...the map itself isn't complete... |
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| 16:07.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 16:07.23 | ckknight | Ebon Hold also has issues |
| 16:09.13 | Harshmage | probably has something to do with the instance within instance within zone...at least I think that's how they have it set up |
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| 16:11.00 | ckknight | it's weird. |
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| 16:16.51 | Harshmage | And of course, PitBull works mostly...seems to have issues with DK's though...new power type, if I'm guessing right. CowTip works properly though. |
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| 16:21.09 | Kolie2 | wow is such a shitter. |
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| 16:21.30 | Kolie2 | why is the addons directory in program files were you need admin privs to screw with it |
| 16:21.58 | sb | why not install wow to some other folder? :p |
| 16:21.59 | selckin | because its the windows way, seperation of privs is new for them |
| 16:22.23 | Kolie2 | sb, what about the thousands of users who didnt install to some other non program files dir. |
| 16:22.34 | Kolie2 | UAC FREAKS out sometimes. |
| 16:24.02 | Neothor | I hope someone has time to help a lua beginner :D |
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| 16:25.13 | Neothor | I have a problem with calling a function. I have a function Foo:Foo1() in a file common.lua which return a bool. I call this function from my core.lua and get a nil error in wow |
| 16:25.30 | Neothor | in the .toc i have inserted both core and common |
| 16:25.55 | Neothor | when I move the function to core it works |
| 16:26.01 | nevcairiel | is Foo a global ? |
| 16:26.36 | nevcairiel | And do you initialize the Foo table only once, and not once per file? |
| 16:26.39 | Neothor | Foo = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("Foo", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0") |
| 16:26.53 | nevcairiel | Which file is that in? |
| 16:26.56 | Neothor | core |
| 16:26.58 | Kolie2 | whats the vista wow addons directory? |
| 16:26.59 | Neothor | only core |
| 16:27.06 | nevcairiel | and i assume, core is listed first in your .toc? |
| 16:27.11 | Neothor | jup |
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| 16:27.25 | nevcairiel | When do you try to call the :Foo1() ? |
| 16:27.43 | nevcairiel | in the main chunk or in a function? |
| 16:28.03 | Neothor | In an other function of foo that is called by an slash command |
| 16:28.15 | nevcairiel | I see |
| 16:28.16 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 16:29.02 | Neothor | btw in the toc Core.lua is before Common.lua |
| 16:29.04 | AckisWork | can you get multiple values out of pattern matching with LUA? ie: foo(%d+)bat(%a+)... I want to get what d and a are? |
| 16:29.05 | profalbert | kolie2: if you installed it to "program files", it's maybe in c:\users\<username>\Application Data\Roaming\ (don't know really) |
| 16:29.13 | krka | AckisWork: Dude, it's not an acronym! |
| 16:29.18 | Kolie2 | ok thats right roaming |
| 16:29.27 | AckisWork | :P |
| 16:29.36 | nevcairiel | Neothor: Would probably help if you pastey the code (http://ace.pastey.net) |
| 16:29.49 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: sure that works |
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| 16:30.18 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: but how do I get the values? |
| 16:30.33 | nevcairiel | lua> s = "foo248batsdw"; return string.match(s, "foo(%d+)bat(%a+)") |
| 16:30.33 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 248, sdw |
| 16:30.46 | nevcairiel | the two return values? :) |
| 16:30.58 | Pneumatus | profalbert: they could possibly be in C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\World of Warcraft\Interface\Addons also i guess |
| 16:31.07 | AckisWork | God I hate strings heh |
| 16:31.18 | AckisWork | I was using string.find |
| 16:31.30 | profalbert | I installed it to a dir where i don't need admin-permissions --> easier to find |
| 16:31.43 | nevcairiel | E:\World of Warcraft |
| 16:31.44 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 16:31.47 | Fisker- | OMG Pneumatus |
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| 16:31.54 | Fisker- | l2%appdata% |
| 16:31.57 | Pneumatus | i installed to program files but for some reason UAC doesnt care that i write to interface/addons |
| 16:31.58 | profalbert | D:\World of Warcraft for me ;) |
| 16:32.32 | profalbert | Pneumatus: that's because vista is faking a wow-dir |
| 16:32.51 | nevcairiel | thats UAC for ya |
| 16:33.04 | Pneumatus | if that was the case though, the folders would be visiable in virtualstore which is where the fakery happens |
| 16:33.30 | Neothor | nevcairiel, http://ace.pastey.net/92277 |
| 16:34.16 | nevcairiel | well that looks right |
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| 16:34.46 | Pneumatus | return UnitIsFriend("player", "playertarget") and UnitIsPlayer("playertarget") |
| 16:34.47 | Pneumatus | imo :) |
| 16:35.15 | Neothor | That was my first try ;) |
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| 16:58.36 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r78991 10AckisRecipeList/ (DataMiner.lua externals.txt): |
| 16:58.36 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:58.36 | CIA-45 | - Update dataminer a bit |
| 16:58.36 | CIA-45 | - Add .pkgmeta file with specs from CurseForge (yay Ckknight) |
| 16:58.36 | CIA-45 | - Dry-coded (compiles w/ luac -p) |
| 16:59.09 | nevcairiel | Why do you add that file on this svn? o.O |
| 16:59.19 | AckisWork | simplicity |
| 16:59.21 | ckknight | yea, that makes little sense |
| 16:59.26 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 16:59.27 | AckisWork | and I actually didn't add it |
| 16:59.33 | ckknight | lol. |
| 16:59.34 | nevcairiel | because it wont let you |
| 16:59.48 | ckknight | wowace will use it eventually, not until the curseforge transition, though |
| 17:00.26 | AckisWork | it doesn't make sense to have two repository types :P |
| 17:00.39 | AckisWork | and there's no harm in adding it to the wowace svn |
| 17:00.50 | CIA-45 | 03ulic * r78992 10LittleWigs/CoT/BlackMorass.lua: LittleWigs: CoT/BM - Added CombatListener back in for boss death. |
| 17:01.20 | nevcairiel | except that you cannot add the file |
| 17:01.36 | nevcairiel | its not in the whitelist of file types |
| 17:01.53 | AckisWork | add it then? :P |
| 17:03.01 | profalbert | the .pkgmeta isn't in the zip-file because the curseforge-packager doesn't pack it. the wowace-packager would include it |
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| 17:08.25 | Zhinjio | Ackis, where do you want me pushing new files to? |
| 17:08.35 | AckisWork | wowace svn please |
| 17:08.38 | Zhinjio | do you have a branches ARL as well, or just trunk? |
| 17:08.43 | AckisWork | just trunk |
| 17:08.51 | Zhinjio | alright. |
| 17:09.02 | AckisWork | I'll probably do a branch when I start WotLK stuff |
| 17:09.26 | AckisWork | right now I'm working on a data miner script, which is failing for some reason |
| 17:09.36 | profalbert | ~fail Ackis |
| 17:09.39 | purl | Ackis: FAIL! |
| 17:09.39 | Zhinjio | As soon as I add in the code for the switcher into the GUI, I'll the images up there so its actually all visible. |
| 17:10.20 | AckisWork | ok :) |
| 17:13.28 | AckisWork | so the text from wowdb is: {id:38070,name:'Mercurial Stone'... lots of stuff } why is my pattern of: "{id:(%d+),name:'(%a+)'" failing? |
| 17:15.10 | ashb | %a probably doesn't match spaces |
| 17:15.10 | Megalon | %a doesn't include whitespace? |
| 17:15.19 | AckisWork | oh |
| 17:15.49 | ashb | you probably want (%b'') i think |
| 17:16.13 | Pneumatus | or [%a%d%s] maybe |
| 17:16.24 | ashb | what does wowdb return for items with ' in hte name |
| 17:16.25 | Pneumatus | probably dont need %d actually |
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| 17:16.46 | ashb | '([^']+)' |
| 17:21.16 | AckisWork | have i qqed about how much I hate patterns? |
| 17:21.44 | ashb | regex are awesome. learn to lvoe them already |
| 17:21.56 | AckisWork | they never work for me :P |
| 17:22.17 | profalbert | you have some kind of regex-editor? |
| 17:22.44 | AckisWork | Using: "{id:(%d+),name:[%a%s]+" and not getting the return values I want =/ |
| 17:22.49 | AckisWork | profalbert: no? |
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| 17:23.17 | ashb | WowLua addon is quite nice for testing random snippets inside hte game |
| 17:23.19 | profalbert | regexcoach (don't know how it's called exactly) would help you i geuss |
| 17:23.27 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78993 10StatBlock_Folks/StatBlock_Folks.lua: StatBlock_Folks: text tweak |
| 17:23.30 | profalbert | or that one |
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| 17:25.29 | AckisWork | well this is just standard parsing w/o needing the wow environment so I'm just using normal lua |
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| 17:29.52 | Aiiane | AckisWork: http://gskinner.com/RegExr/ |
| 17:29.56 | Aiiane | Have fun |
| 17:30.14 | AckisWork | aren't reg exp a bit different than patterns? |
| 17:30.37 | Aiiane | not really. slightly different codes for some of the character classes |
| 17:30.43 | Aiiane | but other than that pretty much the same |
| 17:31.35 | Aiiane | um, hm... does %a include whitespace characters? |
| 17:31.58 | Aiiane | %a: represents all letters. |
| 17:32.00 | Aiiane | no, it doesnt |
| 17:32.03 | Aiiane | that's probably why |
| 17:32.13 | Aiiane | it sees Mercurial Stone, and doesn't match because there's whitespace |
| 17:32.36 | AckisWork | well [%a%s] should cover that |
| 17:33.03 | ashb | that also isn't lua regexps |
| 17:33.21 | AckisWork | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_Pattern_Matching I'm going off of that =/ |
| 17:33.45 | ashb | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.4.1 |
| 17:33.59 | AckisWork | it's C&P from the lua manual |
| 17:34.14 | Aiiane | hm |
| 17:34.45 | ashb | so whats the string you are testing against? |
| 17:35.04 | AckisWork | full string is: |
| 17:35.04 | AckisWork | {id:38070,name:'Mercurial Stone',school:0,category:11,skillup:[325,340,347.5,355],skill:[171],produces:[31080,1],rarity:2,reagents:[[22452,1],[21886,1],[22457,1]],learned:325} |
| 17:35.30 | ashb | and you want the id and the name? |
| 17:35.36 | AckisWork | yes |
| 17:35.54 | AckisWork | eventually I'll want all info out of it |
| 17:36.36 | _rane | /id:(\d+),name:'(.+?)'/ |
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| 17:38.28 | ashb | local t={} for k,v in str:gmatch("([%a]+):([^,}]+)") do t[k] = v ; end |
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| 17:39.31 | DARKGuy | lolcat I={} for C,A N str:gmatch("H([%A]+):([S,}]+)") do t[k] = CHEEZEBURGER? ; end |
| 17:39.39 | AckisWork | oh god |
| 17:39.40 | AckisWork | :P |
| 17:39.54 | AckisWork | this seems to work btw: "{id:(%d+),name:'(.+)',school:(%d+)," |
| 17:40.20 | Vulcanus | CHEEZBRGR |
| 17:40.42 | selckin | if lua regex supports it use .+? |
| 17:40.48 | selckin | which makes it none greedy |
| 17:41.02 | ashb | yup |
| 17:41.43 | _rane | doesn't matter in that case actually because there's stuff after it |
| 17:42.20 | selckin | depends how carefull you are what you're feeding it :) |
| 17:42.30 | Vulcanus | nom? |
| 17:42.33 | Aiiane | match("{id:(%d+),name:'([%a%s]+)',.+") |
| 17:42.35 | Aiiane | works for me |
| 17:42.54 | selckin | ' can possible be in the name? |
| 17:42.59 | selckin | or other specials |
| 17:43.10 | ashb | Osh'Grun Crystal sample |
| 17:43.14 | ashb | or what ever its callled |
| 17:43.16 | ashb | so yes probably |
| 17:43.31 | selckin | its like parsing combatlog strings, some are just rediculous |
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| 17:46.22 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r78994 10StatBlock_FPS/ (. Libs/ StatBlock_FPS.lua StatBlock_FPS.toc): StatBlock_FPS: cleanup nonsense |
| 17:48.09 | ashb | do lua patterns not have | (or) ? |
| 17:48.52 | Funkeh` | only for single letters |
| 17:48.58 | Funkeh` | [abc] |
| 17:49.47 | DARKGuy | [cheezebrgr] |
| 17:50.16 | Dashkal | i can has? |
| 17:50.29 | DARKGuy | I can has laptop, u can has cheezebrgr |
| 17:51.06 | DARKGuy | it would be awesome if cats could talk like that |
| 17:51.14 | DARKGuy | instead of mewing |
| 17:51.21 | DARKGuy | but then, catgirls wouldn't go mew |
| 17:51.26 | DARKGuy | and that would be SO un-cute. |
| 17:51.32 | Dashkal | eh, I have mixed feelings. Ever try to actually read the comments on that website? |
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| 17:51.46 | DARKGuy | yeah, they're so.... |
| 17:51.48 | DARKGuy | uh... |
| 17:52.04 | DARKGuy | ... like fotolog, metroflog, facebook, myspace ? |
| 17:52.14 | Dashkal | I gave up. The only thing worse than deciphering lolspeak is bad lolspeak |
| 17:52.21 | DARKGuy | lolcatspeak |
| 17:52.30 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 17:52.49 | DARKGuy | out of one comment, I only understood 60% of it all |
| 17:52.55 | Dashkal | exactly |
| 17:52.56 | DARKGuy | then there's lots of weird words |
| 17:53.01 | Dashkal | I'll stick to the photos. They're funny |
| 17:53.08 | DARKGuy | fewd, who would know that fewd is food! |
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| 17:53.20 | DARKGuy | that's worse than 4chan |
| 17:53.24 | DARKGuy | the photos rule |
| 17:53.25 | DARKGuy | :D |
| 17:53.29 | Trela | AAAHHHH! |
| 17:53.38 | Trela | dies inside. |
| 17:53.47 | DARKGuy | blinks, casts Revive on Trela |
| 17:54.02 | Trela | ...Is that a joke in the topic? |
| 17:54.09 | DARKGuy | Um.. no? |
| 17:54.12 | DARKGuy | you died D: |
| 17:54.29 | Trela | The key give away thing. :P |
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| 17:54.38 | Dashkal | oh god this is awesome: http://www.umgso.com/recordings.php (Still Alive track) |
| 17:54.43 | DARKGuy | key giveaway?! :O |
| 17:54.46 | DARKGuy | ME WANTS |
| 17:54.49 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 17:54.53 | Dashkal | nobody reads topics anymore |
| 17:55.01 | Dashkal | wowi is doing it as well |
| 17:55.04 | Trela | Dead page. :P |
| 17:55.18 | DARKGuy | oh yeah |
| 17:55.22 | DARKGuy | GSO.... |
| 17:55.28 | DARKGuy | I prefer The Black Mages |
| 17:55.31 | DARKGuy | and OCRemix |
| 17:55.45 | Dashkal | I lose hours to OCREmix |
| 17:56.24 | DARKGuy | sweet, something else to do while bored at work :D |
| 17:57.12 | Dashkal | odd, the CF announcement is just poofed |
| 17:57.41 | Trela | Yep. |
| 18:00.25 | Trell_ | Dashkal; seems like they've tried to make it all 'Broadway' and failed. Abysmally. |
| 18:00.34 | Trell_ | the original is still the best |
| 18:00.38 | Dashkal | Aww, I was amused |
| 18:00.40 | Dashkal | and of course it is |
| 18:00.43 | Trell_ | I wasn't. |
| 18:00.55 | Trell_ | I keep picturing people doing 'jazz hands' along to it. |
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| 18:02.04 | *** topic/#wowace by ckknight -> WoWAce Future Plans! http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.0 | http://www.wowace.com | http://files.wowace.com/ | http://ace.pastey.net | http://www.lua.org | Author Key Give-Aways! http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17207 |
| 18:02.11 | Dashkal | danke |
| 18:02.14 | Dashkal | there, click the link now :p |
| 18:02.32 | Trela | Thanks. :3 |
| 18:03.13 | Dashkal | Ok, I like the CT/CC one |
| 18:03.45 | DARKGuy | wait |
| 18:03.48 | DARKGuy | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 18:03.51 | DARKGuy | no files.wowace.com?! |
| 18:03.52 | DARKGuy | damnit. |
| 18:04.01 | Stanzilla | ! |
| 18:04.02 | Stanzilla | OMG |
| 18:04.03 | Stanzilla | ! |
| 18:04.06 | DARKGuy | I hate the curse client |
| 18:04.06 | Trela | It is running... |
| 18:04.16 | Trela | I hate Curse with a fucking passion. |
| 18:04.17 | DARKGuy | no, I'm reading the forum thread |
| 18:04.17 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 18:04.35 | Dashkal | Trela: wowace has been curse for some time... |
| 18:04.51 | Trela | After one of their coders told me to go fuck off after simply asking when they planned on making the Mac client. |
| 18:04.53 | DARKGuy | yeah but the client is very intrusive |
| 18:04.55 | DARKGuy | doesn't work on linux |
| 18:05.04 | DARKGuy | and I prefer WAU, it's cleaner |
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| 18:05.28 | profalbert | wau works on linux? |
| 18:05.31 | Trela | Their "must use Curse client" to post your character to Curse is stupid as well. |
| 18:05.50 | DARKGuy | profalbert: no, that's why jWoWUpdater exists |
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| 18:05.57 | DARKGuy | which works 100 times better than WAU too. |
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| 18:06.03 | ckknight | Trela: which coder told you to fuck off? |
| 18:06.21 | Trela | I would have to go dig up the thread. This was up to a year ago. |
| 18:06.39 | ckknight | okay, that coder's no longer with curse |
| 18:06.48 | ckknight | we have a completely new team pretty much |
| 18:07.05 | ckknight | Kolie, the current guy working on the curse client, is much better |
| 18:07.09 | ckknight | and a Mac client is planned |
| 18:07.23 | Kolie | sup. |
| 18:07.29 | Trela | I have no idea since then. :P |
| 18:07.34 | Trela | Heya~ |
| 18:07.37 | Kolie | What am I doing? |
| 18:07.45 | Aiiane | coding |
| 18:07.47 | Trela | Being alerted by the word Kolie? |
| 18:07.47 | ckknight | just being awesome. |
| 18:07.51 | Aiiane | now get back to it /whip |
| 18:07.59 | Kolie | I fixed a bunch of annoyances today. |
| 18:08.04 | Trela | gets back to coding her web site. |
| 18:08.04 | Kolie | Referring to any of those? |
| 18:08.42 | DARKGuy | ckknight: does it work on Linux? :p |
| 18:08.54 | ckknight | if there's enough demand, a Linux client could be made |
| 18:09.00 | DARKGuy | meh. |
| 18:09.04 | Kolie | Linux client is trivial once I release mac version. |
| 18:09.04 | Dashkal | XML feeds! :p |
| 18:09.06 | profalbert | demands a linux curseclient |
| 18:09.07 | DARKGuy | of course there's demand! |
| 18:09.11 | ckknight | it's made with C++ and wxWidgets |
| 18:09.13 | Kolie | I will make a linux build ( unofficially ) once the mac one is released. |
| 18:09.18 | DARKGuy | there are more linux users than mac users |
| 18:09.26 | ckknight | I seriously doubt that, DARKGuy |
| 18:09.39 | DARKGuy | ckknight: macs are more expensive than a common PC |
| 18:09.44 | profalbert | there are more linux-users in _here_ |
| 18:09.49 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 18:09.52 | Kolie | In here, yea possible. |
| 18:09.53 | ckknight | there's a lot of mac users here, profalbert |
| 18:09.59 | ckknight | I bet it's about even |
| 18:10.00 | Trela | <-- Mac |
| 18:10.01 | Kolie | But not in WoW. |
| 18:10.06 | DARKGuy | <- Linux/Windows |
| 18:10.08 | Dashkal | <--- Winblows/Linux |
| 18:10.13 | DARKGuy | well, because WoW is stupid |
| 18:10.15 | Quaiche | The only Linux users I know who play WoW that way are in here. |
| 18:10.15 | ckknight | <-- mac |
| 18:10.19 | Trela | I will take your word for it about the coders, CK. :) |
| 18:10.20 | DARKGuy | they hate WINE :( |
| 18:10.40 | Trela | I should have tried to program my own Curse client back then. |
| 18:10.41 | Dashkal | erm? Wow did some with with transmeta to be less hostile awhile back... |
| 18:10.43 | ckknight | Trela: btw, the old curse team sucked donkey balls, and the current curse.com sucks as well. I'm very glad it's being replaced soon. |
| 18:10.56 | DARKGuy | lol ckknight |
| 18:11.03 | Trela | The separation of Curse and Curseforge is well... annoying at least. |
| 18:11.05 | DARKGuy | Dashkal: well they did |
| 18:11.20 | Aiiane | Trela: Why? |
| 18:11.23 | ckknight | Trela: it's meant to be separate. Got any suggestions to make it better? |
| 18:11.26 | Trela | Curse.com is just slow and I wish to see the new versions. :P |
| 18:11.27 | Dashkal | I've seen people report better frames in linux than windows on the same hardware. |
| 18:11.30 | DARKGuy | at least Warden is nested in WINE and they can't spy the rest of my comp, yay privacy :3 |
| 18:11.48 | Pkekyo| | dhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os16l7oeFjE&feature=related |
| 18:11.48 | Pkekyo| | FUCING WIN |
| 18:11.49 | Dashkal | I've yet to duplicate that myself. I'll be a happy camper when I can |
| 18:11.51 | ckknight | Trela: new Curse.com is freakishly fast |
| 18:12.05 | Trela | I understand their are supposed to be separate. For me as an author, I was fine with just Curse itself for file uploading. |
| 18:12.07 | ckknight | Trela: compared to the current one, it's like night and day |
| 18:12.20 | Trela | It is definitely better. |
| 18:12.20 | DARKGuy | Pkekyo|: haha I saw that one, damn funny xD |
| 18:12.28 | ckknight | well, for me, as an addon author, I hate uploading zips :-P |
| 18:12.51 | Trela | We can SVN to Curseforge? |
| 18:13.00 | ckknight | or Git or Hg |
| 18:13.03 | Pkekyo| | DARKGuy: funny? it's fucking impossible |
| 18:13.05 | DARKGuy | Pkekyo|: lmao-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUr4XMfqjlA&feature=related |
| 18:13.07 | NivFreak | I just broke 100 days /played at lvl 70 |
| 18:13.07 | Trela | What? XD |
| 18:13.09 | Dashkal | Git :D:D |
| 18:13.15 | ckknight | Trela: I designed it that way... |
| 18:13.26 | Trela | goes to look up Git/Hg. |
| 18:13.29 | DARKGuy | Pkekyo|: haha, I've seen some weird crashes, it can happen x) |
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| 18:14.35 | Trela | If I can SVN to Curseforge, that might not be so bad then. |
| 18:15.06 | Aiiane | can SVN, and even automatically build packages via tags |
| 18:15.15 | Dashkal | CF has repos, automatic packaging, issue tracking, wiki pages... |
| 18:15.27 | ckknight | we're working on adding more stuff |
| 18:15.30 | ckknight | and we listen to suggestions |
| 18:15.37 | Trela | Which then auto-publishes the ZIP files to Curse.com I believe? |
| 18:15.44 | ckknight | yes |
| 18:15.51 | Trela | goes to research more! |
| 18:16.10 | ckknight | note: unlike how wowace does it now, we decided to only sync beta and release files (tags) instead of alpha files (trunk) |
| 18:16.35 | Trela | I never release alphas, really. *Whistles at the various few hundred WoW installations she has broken.* |
| 18:16.48 | profalbert | does the new curseclient give a changelog summary _before_ updating? |
| 18:16.55 | ckknight | yep, we're trying to foster a better culture |
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| 18:17.27 | ckknight | profalbert: unsure |
| 18:17.32 | Kolie | It does not atm. |
| 18:17.46 | kadrahil | hey, i caught a tinytip error, when i try to access options via /tinytip (i have both tinytip and tinytip_options installed) ---> |
| 18:17.50 | kadrahil | http://ace.pastey.net/92283 |
| 18:17.57 | kadrahil | just a heads up :D |
| 18:18.01 | profalbert | I think this would be nice, if I have to click every single addon, I'd rather just update the ones i need |
| 18:18.02 | ashb | AckisWork: http://ace.pastey.net/92285 |
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| 18:18.46 | ashb | turns it into a lua struct for you :) |
| 18:19.00 | Kolie | profalbert: It will tell you premium or not which ones are out of date. |
| 18:19.03 | Trela | Well, if CK is working on it, it must done crazy fast and good. :P |
| 18:19.20 | Kolie | The actually update process you have to fire off as a regular user. |
| 18:19.32 | Kolie | It works much like the 0.16.0 client in that respect. |
| 18:19.49 | profalbert | Kolie: well it's out of date even if I'm just missing some zhTW-locale-update |
| 18:20.04 | Kolie | Sorry? |
| 18:20.14 | Kolie | I am not quite following what you said. |
| 18:20.18 | ckknight | Trela: hehe, it's me and Kaelten working on curseforge |
| 18:20.26 | Kolie | Oh, you want to see the changelog |
| 18:20.35 | Kolie | That says zhtw was added. |
| 18:20.43 | Kolie | gotcha. |
| 18:20.54 | Kolie | Yea I can display it pretty easily. |
| 18:21.00 | Kolie | I just dont get the data currently. |
| 18:21.01 | Trela | Now I need to get this local company to hire me as a PHP programmer and I am golden! |
| 18:21.10 | Trela | Random and kind of the wrong room. >.>; |
| 18:21.30 | profalbert | Kolie: ok |
| 18:21.37 | Dashkal | only kinda. This channel is offtopic all the time :p |
| 18:22.04 | ashb | there's an *on* topic in any irc channel? |
| 18:22.11 | Dashkal | I'm so looking forward to the lack of instant alpha releases... It fostered lazy developers (myself included) who _only_ released via svn commit... |
| 18:22.30 | Dashkal | ashb: My bad, why would I think such a thing? :p |
| 18:22.46 | ashb | so where can i read about this curseforge? |
| 18:23.00 | Dashkal | http://www.curseforge.com/ |
| 18:23.11 | ashb | thanks lazyweb |
| 18:23.37 | Trela | The author key give away is just sexy. |
| 18:23.54 | Obelixprime | you can summon into ZA now? |
| 18:23.59 | Dashkal | want DK... want DK... *cackles* |
| 18:24.18 | profalbert | Obelixprime: don't think so |
| 18:24.20 | Kolie | profalbert: we can get it in, I wanted to do it today but its not in the developers schedules to have any free time for that for atleast a week. |
| 18:24.23 | FinalX | nope, can't |
| 18:24.25 | Trela | I have about ten submission methods out for getting a key. >.>;; |
| 18:25.07 | Obelixprime | profalbert: Someone in my guild said you could now... hmm |
| 18:25.20 | profalbert | since when? |
| 18:25.33 | ashb | no mac client yet? |
| 18:25.46 | Obelixprime | no idea |
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| 18:28.40 | Trela | Curse was originally for that raiding guild, correct? |
| 18:29.20 | Xuerian|Zzz | Trela: Correct. |
| 18:30.00 | Xuerian | They started hosting a few addons, and it grew from there. |
| 18:30.33 | *** join/#wowace Luthorhuss (n=chatzill@0x50a58153.svgnxx1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 18:30.41 | Trela | It makes me wonder what happened to them. |
| 18:32.57 | Trela | What is the general thought on updating and rereleasing an AddOn that has been abandoned, can not contact the author, and has no license associated with it? I obviously credited the original author, but I have not put it out yet. |
| 18:33.17 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: another stupid bug. 6.53 posted up on all sites now. |
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| 18:34.24 | Kaelten | Trela: It really depends on the original author and their wishes, if they show'd up and demanded we take it down and it was obviously still a fairly close copy we'd remove it or give it back to them. But in general its not a big deal to fork a project. Any judgements on them are done on a case by case basis |
| 18:35.18 | Dezzimal | [13:30] <Trela> It makes me wonder what happened to them. |
| 18:35.23 | Dezzimal | they still raid under the name uh |
| 18:35.36 | Dashkal | I thought they kinda became SK gaming? |
| 18:35.37 | Dezzimal | I think they use a sponsor's name or something |
| 18:35.45 | Dezzimal | yeah that |
| 18:35.50 | Trela | Awesome. I will consider uploading it then. http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/3118/ |
| 18:35.53 | Trela | Ah. |
| 18:36.09 | Trela | That is the original project I mean. |
| 18:36.11 | DARKGuy | did you change simpleMinimap?! |
| 18:36.12 | DARKGuy | :O |
| 18:36.15 | DARKGuy | what'd you do?! :D |
| 18:36.29 | Trela | Erm... |
| 18:36.35 | Trela | Wait, I think I linked the wrong one. |
| 18:37.34 | Trela | This is the mini map I made from an original. http://www.experimentalinsanity.com/albums/wow/TrelaUI.jpg |
| 18:39.40 | Trela | I took the original, put in Ace2 for management, fix a bunch of bugs, and did a few other things. |
| 18:40.03 | Aiiane | I was really confused from your character model versus your bars there for a sec... then I noticed the buff icon :P |
| 18:40.22 | Trela | :P |
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| 18:41.46 | Trela | I found where I saved the author information and page, but it is no longer there either. It was not hosted on Curse either. |
| 18:42.28 | CIA-45 | 03saroz * r78995 10BadgeWatch/Core.lua: |
| 18:42.28 | CIA-45 | BadgeWatch: |
| 18:42.28 | CIA-45 | - Now works in party |
| 18:42.28 | CIA-45 | - Only tracks when inside an instance |
| 18:42.28 | CIA-45 | - No-longer whispers people who just joined a raid |
| 18:42.33 | Zhinjio | What does a "Component" do in a project? |
| 18:43.22 | profalbert | I guess it's for optional modules like DataSharing for Gathermate? |
| 18:43.35 | Trela | Probably. |
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| 18:48.21 | Dezzimal | arkinventory works for wotlk right? |
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| 18:59.07 | Trela | What is this WoW Matrix thing? Are they just leeching files.wowace.com? |
| 18:59.21 | chiper | Dezzimal: it should |
| 18:59.48 | chiper | is there a list up of api changes in wotlk |
| 18:59.50 | chiper | ? |
| 18:59.51 | Pneumatus | Trela: yes, as well as other sites |
| 19:00.07 | Trela | Assuming they are whores about removing what we do not want there? |
| 19:00.44 | Kolie2 | anyone mess with treelistctrl? |
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| 19:00.52 | Kolie2 | wrong channel. |
| 19:01.25 | *** join/#wowace sedai| (i=cookies@c-67-190-31-227.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:01.44 | Pneumatus | someone sent them a mail the other day and they said they wouldn't remove the listing of their addons as they don't host them, or words to that effect |
| 19:02.00 | Pneumatus | http://ace.pastey.net/92028 |
| 19:02.09 | Arrowmaster | i got them to remove mine |
| 19:02.44 | Arrowmaster | but for a big name mod it will probably take lots of attempts |
| 19:02.46 | Trela | Funny, my official distribution source blocks outside referrers. |
| 19:03.23 | Trela | I bet when files.wowace.com disappears so will a ton of WoW Matrix stuff. |
| 19:03.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah it will |
| 19:03.43 | chiper | files.wowace is disappearing? |
| 19:04.19 | Pneumatus | blocking external referrers only works when a referrer is sent tho :) |
| 19:04.20 | *** join/#wowace kappaccino (n=UPP@71-84-214-44.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com) |
| 19:04.37 | fewyn | yes chiper |
| 19:04.52 | chiper | to be replaced by what? |
| 19:04.59 | chiper | please dont say curse |
| 19:05.01 | fewyn | the new website |
| 19:05.04 | fewyn | it's NOT curse |
| 19:05.10 | chiper | thank god |
| 19:05.14 | fewyn | at least not Curse.com |
| 19:05.29 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, it's the curse network, what's the difference |
| 19:05.35 | fewyn | big difference |
| 19:05.51 | chiper | the difference is in the interface and layout |
| 19:05.52 | fewyn | First off, different set of admins |
| 19:05.57 | fewyn | Different layout |
| 19:06.01 | fewyn | Different servers |
| 19:06.13 | chiper | I find curse very cumbersome |
| 19:06.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Kolie] by ChanServ |
| 19:06.25 | fewyn | Me too chiper, but this isn't going to be Curse |
| 19:06.37 | chiper | which is a shame, since it used to be really nice |
| 19:06.44 | Trela | WoWAce: SVN Commit, done. Curse/Curseforge: Thirty minutes later, am I done yet? |
| 19:06.46 | chiper | before it turned into a portal |
| 19:06.59 | Trela | Curseforge according to CK should be better though. |
| 19:07.24 | fewyn | Curseforge.com != Curse.com |
| 19:07.30 | Shadowed | Wheres vhell |
| 19:07.33 | fewyn | so don't expect the same stuff to happen |
| 19:07.36 | Shadowed | Bastard pinged me and is gone |
| 19:07.40 | Trela | IT IS CUUUUURSED! |
| 19:08.20 | Aiiane | well technically trela, you shouldnt "really" be using svn commits to release :P |
| 19:08.56 | Trela | What ever it is called. |
| 19:08.59 | VonhintenHOME` | You're right fewyn, a string comparison of those two is indeed not equal |
| 19:09.17 | Trela | Von WINS. |
| 19:09.19 | Trela | Nappy time! |
| 19:09.37 | Dashkal | Ok, jealous. I wish I could just go take a nap... |
| 19:09.46 | Aiiane | VonhintenHOME`: a regular comparison wouldnt be either, Curse.com is nil :P |
| 19:09.51 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert * r78996 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 19:09.51 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 19:09.51 | CIA-45 | - fix some more DoT-misses (immunes, ...) |
| 19:10.02 | Cairenn|afk | or, you can always use WoWI's svn |
| 19:10.15 | Aiiane | or curseforge's svn! :P |
| 19:10.21 | Cairenn|afk | yep |
| 19:10.41 | Dashkal | Cairenn|afk: anything on wowi and git? |
| 19:11.08 | Cairenn|afk | Dashkal: it's something we want to add, just a matter of coming up with the time, since we only have one programmer for all our sites |
| 19:11.25 | Dashkal | fair enough. I'm just looking forward to the ability to cross-push |
| 19:11.39 | Cairenn|afk | *nod* |
| 19:11.48 | Shadowed | Cairenn|afk I've got a perfect solution |
| 19:11.54 | Shadowed | make your programmer program a report to program for him |
| 19:11.58 | Shadowed | s/report/robot/ |
| 19:12.10 | Aiiane | and then clone it? :P |
| 19:12.13 | Shadowed | yes |
| 19:12.13 | Cairenn|afk | Dashkal: you know uploading to wowi is easy because of the program Shadowed wrote, right? |
| 19:12.20 | Cairenn|afk | Shadowed: rofl |
| 19:12.23 | Dashkal | I'm perfectly able to upload as well :p |
| 19:12.23 | Shadowed | That doesn't support git either actually |
| 19:12.26 | Dashkal | And I'll do that for now |
| 19:12.27 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r78997 10HealGraph/ (Graph.lua HealGraph.lua IncomingDamage.lua): |
| 19:12.27 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 19:12.27 | CIA-45 | - aranged incoming damage and heals by the position of the expected health at their occurence |
| 19:12.27 | CIA-45 | - restructured lines to a sorted list |
| 19:12.27 | CIA-45 | - graphs health updates on combat events, not only on UNIT_HEALTH |
| 19:12.28 | Shadowed | I really should make it support git |
| 19:12.40 | Shadowed | Tekkub: How complicated are the command line stuff in git if you wanted to pull off the latest version? |
| 19:12.41 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 19:13.03 | Dashkal | uploading the zip has the added advantage that the zip will be the _same_ zip between sites, but I doubt users actually check md5s anyway |
| 19:13.05 | Tekkub | git pull |
| 19:13.07 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: only getting the latest version? easy |
| 19:13.38 | Shadowed | Is there a specific command for the URL, or is it just git pull <url> |
| 19:14.26 | Shadowed | actually guess I'll just setup git |
| 19:14.30 | Dashkal | Unless I'm on crack it's git remote add <name> <url>; git pull <name> |
| 19:14.45 | Dashkal | but my brain is in SVN land atm so I dunno for sure |
| 19:15.04 | Arrowmaster | http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-archive.html |
| 19:15.13 | Shadowed | I take it http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ is what you'd use for git on Windows? |
| 19:15.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 19:15.32 | Arrowmaster | and you can use git-archive on remote repos without cloning them i think |
| 19:16.52 | Trela | I wonder if they will give us an option to block users from updating with the premium Curse client. *Drools and goes back to bed.* |
| 19:17.17 | Tekkub | github has downloads generated by git-archive |
| 19:17.27 | VonhintenHOME` | lol trela, I like that idea |
| 19:18.08 | Aiiane | er...wha? |
| 19:29.51 | Shirik | anyone know wtf to do if I dragged the window for "/prat copychat copy" off the screen? |
| 19:30.15 | Dashkal | I love it: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#220 |
| 19:31.10 | Shirik | Dashkal: rofl |
| 19:33.28 | Dezzimal | ([13:59] <chiper> Dezzimal: it should) -> Yeah is should, but blizzard somehow managed to break part of tourguide and I didn't expect that to happen either :/ |
| 19:34.33 | NeoTron | so if you're looking for a death log addon Acheron is really good |
| 19:34.36 | Pkekyo| | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/665/ninjaconub5.jpg |
| 19:34.42 | yoshimo | did blizzard sent out non-addon-author keys yet? |
| 19:35.01 | NeoTron | it also includes things like "did the tank have stomp?" and number of shadow/fire debuffs on the tank at the time of death (for eredar twins) |
| 19:35.17 | Dezzimal | blizzard sent out F&F beta invites and Blizzcon keys |
| 19:35.18 | NeoTron | really nice to say "yo, tank you died because you had 14 shadow debuffs!" |
| 19:35.22 | Dezzimal | nothing from optin yet though |
| 19:36.20 | Dezzimal | everyone on beta has a bearmount |
| 19:36.24 | Dezzimal | its silly :/ |
| 19:42.10 | Pkekyo| | "I'm really depressed. I'm pregnant and my bf has been cheating on me and now I don't even know if the baby is mine." |
| 19:42.32 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 19:42.33 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 19:42.36 | Gnarfoz | that doesn't make sense |
| 19:43.23 | Pneumatus | hahaha |
| 19:43.44 | chiper | maybe she thinks she was abducted |
| 19:44.03 | Pneumatus | someone ninjad a surrogate in |
| 19:46.03 | chiper | Dashkal: awesome comic. I can't decide which pitiful animal is funnier |
| 19:46.03 | AckisWork | lua foo = "{stuff}{morestuff}{evenmorestuff}";for x in string.gmatch(foo, "{(.+)}") do print(x) end |
| 19:46.04 | AckisWork | <lua foo = "{stuff}{morestuff}{evenmorestuff}";for x in string.gmatch(foo, "{(.+)}") do print(x) end |
| 19:46.08 | AckisWork | wow I fail |
| 19:46.12 | AckisWork | >lua foo = "{stuff}{morestuff}{evenmorestuff}";for x in string.gmatch(foo, "{(.+)}") do print(x) end |
| 19:46.26 | Diskmaster | ~fail AckisWork |
| 19:46.27 | purl | AckisWork: FAIL! |
| 19:46.38 | Dashkal | that contest of theirs has some real gems in it |
| 19:46.39 | AckisWork | I'm having issues... lol |
| 19:46.43 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: :p |
| 19:46.50 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: that's the idea lol |
| 19:46.55 | AckisWork | lua> foo = "{stuff}{morestuff}{evenmorestuff}";for x in string.gmatch(foo, "{(.+)}") do print(x) end |
| 19:46.56 | lua_bot | AckisWork: stuff}{morestuff}{evenmorestuff |
| 19:47.01 | Dashkal | lua> "I think AckisWork fails!" |
| 19:47.02 | lua_bot | Dashkal: I think AckisWork fails! |
| 19:47.06 | AckisWork | :P |
| 19:47.08 | durcyn | lua> print("hi mom!") |
| 19:47.08 | lua_bot | durcyn: hi mom! |
| 19:47.09 | Dashkal | I agree, lua_bot! |
| 19:47.14 | Sais | .+? ? |
| 19:47.32 | eliteevil | Someone broke decursive. =( |
| 19:48.01 | AckisWork | lua> foo = "{stuff}{morestuff}{evenmorestuff}";for x in string.gmatch(foo, "{(.-)}") do print(x) end |
| 19:48.02 | lua_bot | AckisWork: stuff, morestuff, evenmorestuff |
| 19:48.06 | AckisWork | victory |
| 19:48.10 | Sais | lua> foo = "{one}{two}{three}";for x in string.gmatch(foo, "{(.+?)}") do print(x) end |
| 19:48.11 | lua_bot | Sais: No output |
| 19:48.15 | Gnarfoz | ~pil |
| 19:48.16 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 19:48.16 | Sais | hmm |
| 19:48.20 | eliteevil | "The shared library SpecialEvents-Aura-2.0 could not be found" |
| 19:48.33 | eliteevil | and I can't find that lib on WAU |
| 19:48.47 | Sais | I wish lua would have real pcre rather than an imitiation of it :| |
| 19:49.37 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't have an imitation of pcre, it uses Lua patterns >_> |
| 19:49.52 | Shefki | Which pretty much suck. |
| 19:50.08 | Gnarfoz | actually, they don't really ;p |
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| 19:50.24 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I'd agree if there was an or operator. |
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| 19:51.36 | durcyn | who the hell still uses Special Events, ffs |
| 19:51.57 | eliteevil | someone who messed up decursive I guess. =P |
| 19:52.30 | Sais | Gnarfoz: It has lua patterns that look oh so much like regular expressions that someone feels they ought to be able to use pcre constructs, and fails horribly when they try :( |
| 19:52.47 | Gnarfoz | that's what manuals are for |
| 19:53.02 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: point is, I think someone removed it and failed at that ;) |
| 19:54.30 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: point is, it's easily deprecated in favor of a three line local function =( |
| 19:54.44 | Gnarfoz | it IS deprecated, are you not reading :p |
| 19:55.10 | durcyn | no, i'm aware it's deprecated, i meant in the context of the addon in question |
| 19:55.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I meant that, too |
| 19:55.28 | durcyn | you expect me to go read decursive's source, or just bitch about people using stupid libraries for stupid things |
| 19:55.36 | Gnarfoz | neither :p |
| 19:55.44 | durcyn | oh =( |
| 19:55.49 | durcyn | because i chose the latter. |
| 19:55.52 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 19:55.52 | purl | keeps mailing Vulcanus free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 19:55.54 | *** join/#wowace kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 19:56.04 | Vulcanus | that... that's just inhuman |
| 19:56.06 | Gnarfoz | someone removed SEA from decursive, leaving a replacement in place, but failed at actually removing SEA, at least that's what I read here, yesterday ^^ |
| 19:56.16 | Vulcanus | wait what |
| 19:56.25 | Vulcanus | we aren't tlaking about the Cosmos Sea library are we? |
| 19:56.46 | durcyn | SpecialEvents. |
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| 19:56.53 | Vulcanus | oh |
| 19:57.03 | Paene | oh |
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| 19:57.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah, r78889 |
| 20:00.34 | Paene | hm...if we entered the WoWI key giveaway, would it be overly jerkish to enter the curse key giveaway too? :-p |
| 20:01.39 | Gnarfoz | neither say that you can't enter another such giveaway, so meh |
| 20:01.42 | Dezzimal | I don't see why not |
| 20:01.55 | eliteevil | I'd try fixing Decursive myself.. but I'd probably just break it more. :x |
| 20:02.02 | Dezzimal | I knew I had a key coming from F&F but I definitely opted in too |
| 20:02.33 | Paene | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.39 | Dezzimal | friends and family |
| 20:02.41 | Gnarfoz | eliteevil: which version are you running? |
| 20:03.01 | Gnarfoz | if you were in F&F, why would you need a key? o_O |
| 20:03.15 | Dezzimal | idk |
| 20:03.22 | Dezzimal | extra one for a friends acct |
| 20:03.28 | Gnarfoz | yeah ~ |
| 20:03.32 | NivFreak | I have 3 accounts |
| 20:03.33 | NivFreak | =/ |
| 20:03.35 | Gnarfoz | also this is not about Blizz's opt-in thingy ;) |
| 20:04.03 | eliteevil | Gnarfoz: I updated before I logged in, so I'm assuming r78963 |
| 20:04.12 | Gnarfoz | never assume :p |
| 20:04.17 | Dezzimal | pve healing priests are going to level so fast in beta |
| 20:04.22 | Dezzimal | holy shit :/ |
| 20:04.31 | Vulcanus | is that a new spell? |
| 20:04.31 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 20:04.59 | Vulcanus | You take a sanctified dump on the enemy, causing 531-672 damage and leaves a naughty smell. |
| 20:05.06 | Paene | lol |
| 20:05.08 | Dezzimal | no its the stat consilidation |
| 20:05.19 | Dezzimal | pve healing priests have about 1300 spelldamage and 600-700 spirit |
| 20:05.24 | Vulcanus | humor. u needs it. |
| 20:05.24 | eliteevil | Gnarfoz: well, I can't get it to tell me... /dcr isn't working and it's not showing up in my "addons preferences" addon |
| 20:05.24 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 20:05.33 | Dezzimal | which is fucking nuts for spirit tap |
| 20:05.39 | Gnarfoz | eliteevil: it's not even loaded, then ^^ |
| 20:05.41 | Dezzimal | and the spirit to spelldamage talent |
| 20:05.54 | Vulcanus | or its errored out so it couldnt load |
| 20:05.57 | eliteevil | Gnarfoz: Yeah it is, the frame is there |
| 20:06.04 | Gnarfoz | Oo? |
| 20:06.12 | eliteevil | r78963, I checked my WAU |
| 20:06.24 | Gnarfoz | are you on wrath beta or something :p |
| 20:06.33 | eliteevil | live@DraenorUS |
| 20:08.06 | Gnarfoz | oh, haha |
| 20:08.09 | Gnarfoz | author fail |
| 20:08.11 | Gnarfoz | I'll fix it |
| 20:08.28 | eliteevil | Gnarfoz: It's probably looking at my AllPlayed and erroring so I'll stop playing this game. =P |
| 20:08.44 | Gnarfoz | just get "LifePercent" |
| 20:08.45 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 20:10.50 | eliteevil | That turns the /played into a % of how much of a life you have? And 340+ days = 0%? |
| 20:10.53 | eliteevil | >.> |
| 20:11.23 | Vulcanus | 340 days is probs over 9000 and it couldnt handle it |
| 20:11.31 | eliteevil | lol |
| 20:11.50 | eliteevil | and that's only on this account, I've got another too, with another two 70s |
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| 20:13.07 | CIA-45 | 03scorpion * r78998 10AutoBar/ (Locale-zhCN.lua Locale-zhTW.lua): |
| 20:13.07 | CIA-45 | AutoBar : |
| 20:13.07 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.25 | CIA-45 | 03charon * r78999 10Omen/Modules/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 20:13.25 | CIA-45 | Omen: Merge some pullout fixes |
| 20:13.25 | CIA-45 | - Remove some size hardcoding |
| 20:13.25 | CIA-45 | - Switch around AOE pullout colors in tank mode |
| 20:13.25 | CIA-45 | - Do not assume tankThreat>0 if we just tested it is <=0! |
| 20:14.28 | Gnarfoz | will --[=[ comment something out? |
| 20:14.48 | Josh_Borke | yes |
| 20:14.49 | Josh_Borke | as will -- |
| 20:14.51 | Gnarfoz | eliteevil: check with Xinhuan, he's the /played time farmer here |
| 20:15.04 | Gnarfoz | Josh_Borke: ah, ok this line for sure, but will it open a block comment? |
| 20:15.09 | Xinhuan | what? |
| 20:15.14 | Josh_Borke | yea, --[[ opens a comment block |
| 20:15.24 | Vulcanus | ]] closes it |
| 20:15.26 | Gnarfoz | does --[=[ do, too? (that wasn't a typo ^^) |
| 20:15.44 | Xinhuan | --[=[ opens a comment block that is closed by ]=] |
| 20:15.48 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 20:15.52 | Gnarfoz | ok |
| 20:15.58 | Xinhuan | you can insert as many == as you want between the [[ and the ]] |
| 20:16.00 | Xinhuan | as long as they match |
| 20:16.10 | Gnarfoz | still, Decursive author didn't do too good of a job replacing SEA |
| 20:16.17 | Xinhuan | its for those cases where the contents of the comment itself has [[ and ]] in it |
| 20:16.50 | Vulcanus | new pieces of info |
| 20:16.57 | Vulcanus | writes to brain |
| 20:18.09 | VonhintenHOME` | So what if the comment block has --[=[ ]=] in it already? use --[==[ ? |
| 20:18.37 | Vulcanus | pretty much yea |
| 20:18.49 | VonhintenHOME` | does it have to be =, or is it really just a name |
| 20:18.59 | Xinhuan | has to be = |
| 20:19.48 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:20.34 | VonhintenHOME` | Nice little feature, C++ suffers from the problem, but typically people will just #if 0 #endif a section of code that has nested multi-line comments than deal with it |
| 20:20.49 | VonhintenHOME` | let the preprocessor sort it out |
| 20:21.04 | CIA-45 | 03gnarfoz * r79000 10Decursive/ (Dcr_DIAG.lua Decursive.toc QuoiDeNeuf.txt WhatsNew.txt): |
| 20:21.04 | CIA-45 | Decursive: more SpecialEvents-Aura cleanup, should fix the "The shared library SpecialEvents-Aura could not be found!!!" error users are getting. |
| 20:21.04 | CIA-45 | ~blame eliteevil |
| 20:21.05 | purl | ACTION blames eliteevil (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
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| 20:21.20 | eliteevil | lol. |
| 20:21.31 | eliteevil | What'd I do? =P |
| 20:21.44 | eliteevil | other than get it fixed by raid time. lol. |
| 20:21.47 | AckisWork | woah Canada? |
| 20:23.25 | eliteevil | Felmyst w/o decursive would be bad. |
| 20:23.32 | Gnarfoz | dunno if this will make /dcr work (I'm not even using Decursive) but it'll not annoy you with that error anymore |
| 20:23.41 | Gnarfoz | who needs decursive when there's grid ^^ |
| 20:23.43 | sb | eliteevil? why? |
| 20:23.53 | sb | felmyst w/o mass dispel would be bad :p |
| 20:24.03 | eliteevil | 'cause I use it to decurse the people who resist the mass dispel =P |
| 20:24.06 | Pneumatus | grid+clique is what I use to keep people dispelled :> |
| 20:24.48 | eliteevil | I've used decursive since MC, just what I'm used to I guess. |
| 20:25.09 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79001 10AckisRecipeList/DataMiner.lua: |
| 20:25.09 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:25.09 | CIA-45 | - Update dataminer, it now successfully pulls all alchemy recipes from WoWDB. |
| 20:25.09 | CIA-45 | Only gets their name, spell ID and required skill level. Will have to expand to |
| 20:25.09 | CIA-45 | get aquisition information and aquisition flags (how the hell to do that is the |
| 20:25.09 | CIA-45 | question?) |
| 20:25.49 | AckisWork | notice that wasn't dry-coded? :P |
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| 20:27.46 | Aiiane | decursive doesnt even resemble what it was during MC now o.0 |
| 20:27.53 | eliteevil | Yeah, I know |
| 20:28.17 | Diao | because it can't resemble it :P |
| 20:28.33 | VonhintenHOME` | Why do people even need it anymore |
| 20:28.38 | Aiiane | ...why is WoW spawning two copies of my frame >< |
| 20:28.55 | Josh_Borke | Aiiane: you told it to |
| 20:29.24 | Pneumatus | well back in the original decursive days, you just made a /decursive macro and spammed the hell out of it :) |
| 20:29.24 | VonhintenHOME` | I remember the old days, but that functionality will never be back |
| 20:29.24 | Aiiane | Josh_Borke: It's defined in an xml that's only referenced once, so I have no idea where I would have done that |
| 20:29.31 | VonhintenHOME` | So what does decursive even do anymore that Grid can't do |
| 20:29.40 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r79002 10Omen/Omen.lua: Omen: Added right click to the Omen LDB launcher that opens the config. Left click continues to toggle Omen to show/hide. |
| 20:29.53 | Pneumatus | these days, no idea... doesnt appear to do much more than grid anyway |
| 20:30.14 | eliteevil | I like having my screen taken up by 18000 boxes, tyvm. =P |
| 20:30.17 | kenlyric | well, it's good for people who don't need anything outt of grid |
| 20:30.27 | kenlyric | since it requires 0 setup |
| 20:30.33 | VonhintenHOME` | I think everyone should run Grid imo :) |
| 20:30.40 | eliteevil | I run both. >.> |
| 20:30.44 | kenlyric | also I find the list of what people have to be helpful |
| 20:31.12 | kenlyric | and also the noise. |
| 20:31.18 | VonhintenHOME` | So, I've determined that my Pally/Rogue 2v2 is a horrible combo |
| 20:31.25 | kenlyric | 3 |
| 20:31.26 | Vulcanus | why |
| 20:31.34 | VonhintenHOME` | In fact, Pally is garbage in 2v2, plain and simple |
| 20:31.37 | kenlyric | oops |
| 20:31.44 | VonhintenHOME` | holy pally at least |
| 20:31.48 | eliteevil | Yep. |
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| 20:32.21 | VonhintenHOME` | druid just shits all over the pally in mana regen, CC, escapability... |
| 20:32.24 | VonhintenHOME` | same with priest |
| 20:33.04 | VonhintenHOME` | Why the Pally PVP set has no MP5 is beyond me |
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| 20:33.14 | VonhintenHOME` | Why they felt they needed to nerf Bless of Freedom is beyond me |
| 20:33.16 | eliteevil | 'cause all you need is crit.. >.> =P |
| 20:33.27 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r79004 10StatBlock_Ammo/StatBlock_Ammo.toc: StatBlock_Ammo: toc bump |
| 20:33.35 | NivFreak | BoF/BoSac changes sucked |
| 20:33.39 | NivFreak | not sure why they did that |
| 20:34.03 | VonhintenHOME` | Why mass dispell automatically targets bubble, yet curse doesn't automatically target fear (yet somehow always seems to target the unstable affliction, is beyond me |
| 20:34.05 | NivFreak | I mean, paladins were strong |
| 20:34.11 | NivFreak | but that sort of made them worthless |
| 20:34.52 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r79005 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: remove tooltiptext handling |
| 20:34.57 | Pneumatus | dispells remove the most recently applied buffs first |
| 20:35.15 | Pneumatus | so bubble is most likely the most recently applied buff, which is why it gets nuked |
| 20:35.50 | VonhintenHOME` | Yeah, it's funny, because a hunter with a scorpion pet can basically put a viper sting on a pally that the pally CANNOT remove |
| 20:36.05 | VonhintenHOME` | because the pet constantly puts up a poison before he can get the viper sting off |
| 20:36.22 | Pkekyo| | http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/OEM_rider/meaningoflife-1.png FUCING WIN |
| 20:36.26 | VonhintenHOME` | it's fucking BS |
| 20:36.53 | Pneumatus | hammer the pet and dispell while its stunned |
| 20:37.02 | VonhintenHOME` | try going against a priest+hunter as a holy pally, see how many heals you get off before you're totally OOM |
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| 20:37.13 | Diao | tell your pally to pillar better |
| 20:37.32 | Pneumatus | or get more resil so the mana drain is mitigated more |
| 20:37.34 | VonhintenHOME` | it's a losing battle |
| 20:37.35 | Diao | pally rogue is actually a decent comp |
| 20:37.41 | VonhintenHOME` | no way |
| 20:38.00 | VonhintenHOME` | druid/rogue, priest/rogue are 2x better |
| 20:38.07 | Diao | pally rogue destroys druid rogue |
| 20:38.08 | Diao | lol |
| 20:38.51 | Diao | priest rogue is a pretty even fight |
| 20:38.54 | Diao | depending how good the pally is |
| 20:39.18 | Aiiane | pally rogue destroys druid rogue, but druid rogue destroys most everything else, unlike P/R |
| 20:40.09 | Aiiane | and you don't get to pick your matchups, so one comp matchup isnt the whole story :) |
| 20:40.11 | VonhintenHOME` | How do you deal with the druid chain cyclone, root, bear->charge, stun the rogue over and over again, meanwhile the rogue works the pally |
| 20:40.16 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r79006 10Broker_PvP/Broker_PvP.lua: Broker_PvP: revert tooltiptext changes, defunct |
| 20:41.20 | VonhintenHOME` | And I wasn't really comparing them against each other |
| 20:41.24 | VonhintenHOME` | But as a combo for arena |
| 20:41.56 | VonhintenHOME` | the pally/rogue will likely not even run into a lot of good druid/rogue combo's, because they're already 2 brackets higher than them from beating stuff the pally/rogue can't beat |
| 20:42.23 | Diao | lol |
| 20:42.32 | Diao | pally/rogue really only loses to lock/anything |
| 20:42.41 | VonhintenHOME` | not true at all |
| 20:42.52 | VonhintenHOME` | pally/warrior > pally/rogue |
| 20:43.08 | Diao | depends on the player |
| 20:43.24 | Diao | most pally/war are horrible because the warrs don't know how to sunder the rogue with 1h/shield |
| 20:43.26 | Diao | and so they lose |
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| 20:43.38 | VonhintenHOME` | It all comes down to mana in that fight |
| 20:43.59 | VonhintenHOME` | the warrior does 2x the damage to the rogue and the rogue requires 4x the healing because of mortal strike |
| 20:44.04 | Diao | ... |
| 20:44.06 | Diao | horrible rogue |
| 20:44.10 | Diao | if warrior is doing 2x dmg |
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| 20:44.32 | Diao | depends on gear i guess |
| 20:44.47 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, it's not like I'm rocking warglaives |
| 20:45.12 | Diao | and you can always go the freedom rogue -> wreck pally method |
| 20:45.19 | Diao | since pallies have a difficult time healing against a rogue |
| 20:45.23 | VonhintenHOME` | good luck |
| 20:46.09 | Diao | well i dunno |
| 20:46.10 | VonhintenHOME` | tried it several times, pally always gets away, warrior always hamstrings and charges the rogue, freedom is only up long enough to do a bit of damage to any decently geared pally |
| 20:46.23 | VonhintenHOME` | meanwhile the rogue takes twice the damage |
| 20:46.24 | Diao | i only got up to 1800 in bloodlust-us on my pally alt |
| 20:46.37 | Diao | with a s3 rogue |
| 20:46.48 | Diao | so i can't say for any of the actual high level play |
| 20:46.54 | Diao | but up to 1800ish pally/rogue is not bad |
| 20:47.08 | VonhintenHOME` | I've been hitting a brick wall at 1600 |
| 20:47.09 | thul | retpala + shadowstep rogue ftw. |
| 20:47.12 | Aiiane | priest/rogue vs. pally/war is interesting |
| 20:47.13 | chiper | nice! "Carrion Feeder: Your pet can generate health and happiness by eating a corpse. Will not work on the remains of elementals or mechanical creatures" |
| 20:47.43 | Vulcanus | lol no mechanicals |
| 20:47.46 | Diao | lol |
| 20:48.03 | Vulcanus | 61pt pet talent: Iron Stomach - Makes your pet able to devour mechanical creatures |
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| 20:48.19 | Pneumatus | nom nom nom |
| 20:48.21 | chiper | haha |
| 20:48.24 | Diao | it takes a really good pally to do well though in arenas |
| 20:48.41 | Diao | if your pally isn't a top level arena player then you're better off with a druid or priest |
| 20:49.12 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm neither hammer spec combat, nor subtlety... don't have hammers to use and the dps of the subtlety rogue is the lose imo |
| 20:49.14 | chiper | you know, I think it's a rather large oversite that hunter pets never get MCd |
| 20:49.30 | Pneumatus | raid specced priests suck in arenas tho, and i refuse to pay 100g a day just to make a couple of arena matches :< |
| 20:49.58 | Diao | 100g a day? |
| 20:50.05 | Diao | just set a couple days to arena when you aren't raiding |
| 20:50.08 | Diao | so it's 100g a week |
| 20:50.13 | Pneumatus | i raid a minimum of 6 nights a week tho |
| 20:50.21 | thul | thanks Pkekyo| btw |
| 20:50.25 | VonhintenHOME` | ugh, 6 nights |
| 20:50.33 | VonhintenHOME` | that's ridiculous imo |
| 20:50.47 | Pneumatus | only out of choice though, we raid 25man 4 nights a week, and then a ZG and Kara |
| 20:51.03 | Diao | holy crap |
| 20:51.06 | Diao | but |
| 20:51.08 | VonhintenHOME` | kara would be the first thing to go imo |
| 20:51.10 | Diao | zg/kara can be done in 1 day |
| 20:51.11 | Diao | easily |
| 20:51.19 | Diao | and most people shouldn't need kara if you're in 25 mans |
| 20:51.21 | Pneumatus | not really, kara is 23 badges or whatever :) |
| 20:51.23 | Diao | like me for example |
| 20:51.28 | Diao | 22 badges in 2 hrs yes |
| 20:51.34 | Diao | but i have 350 badges sitting in my bank |
| 20:51.35 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't need badges anymore |
| 20:51.38 | Diao | with nothing to spend them on |
| 20:51.54 | Diao | all my gear is fully epic gemmed |
| 20:51.59 | VonhintenHOME` | my pally needs them for offspec gear, but fuck that |
| 20:52.04 | Diao | i have all my offspec gear |
| 20:52.08 | Diao | i've been buying my alts epic gems for no reason |
| 20:52.09 | Pkekyo| | http://kepfeltoltes.hu/080607/rs_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg I FUCKING HATE RAPIDSHARE |
| 20:52.11 | Diao | even though it's crap gear |
| 20:52.16 | Pneumatus | i'm still about 200 badges away from all mainspec gear, and that doesnt even start on gems |
| 20:52.29 | Diao | did you just start 25 mans? |
| 20:52.39 | VonhintenHOME` | I've already gemmed my rogue's main gear, and 20 epic gems in his tanking set |
| 20:52.57 | VonhintenHOME` | which I really don't use |
| 20:53.03 | Pneumatus | nope, been raiding 25man for months, just had no luck with decent loot |
| 20:53.09 | Diao | oh |
| 20:53.17 | chiper | ooo! certain pets can spec for an actual Taunt ability |
| 20:53.23 | Diao | 4 day raid week is pretty harsh for 25 mans |
| 20:53.28 | Diao | unless you're farming old content for a couple of those days |
| 20:53.37 | Pneumatus | 1 night MH, 3 nights BT |
| 20:54.07 | VonhintenHOME` | I can barely handle 2 days lately, with the way my guild is going |
| 20:54.09 | Pneumatus | we've only downed gorefiend twice, and had bloodboil to 19% this week |
| 20:54.13 | VonhintenHOME` | too many scrubs |
| 20:54.26 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:54.27 | Diao | cause |
| 20:54.34 | Diao | i remember when i was farming badges for my warrior's tank set |
| 20:54.37 | Diao | i needed 400 badges |
| 20:54.41 | Diao | within 2 weeks i had everything |
| 20:54.41 | odt | everything beats having try 246 on muru imo |
| 20:54.42 | Pneumatus | so usually our first BT night is up to akama, 2nd night is gorefiend and whatever we can get on bloodboil, and 3rd night is all bloodboil |
| 20:54.56 | Diao | ah |
| 20:55.01 | Diao | how long do you usually raid |
| 20:55.03 | Diao | each day |
| 20:55.07 | Pneumatus | 4 hours |
| 20:55.14 | Pneumatus | sorry, 3 hours |
| 20:55.24 | Diao | oh, no wonder |
| 20:55.25 | Diao | short raids :p |
| 20:55.27 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 20:55.30 | Pneumatus | 4 hours |
| 20:56.02 | _rane | raiding is like work |
| 20:56.04 | Pneumatus | no, definatly 3 hours, 9pm to midnight uk |
| 20:56.22 | Diao | my guild "raids" 4 nights since we're semi-casual |
| 20:56.25 | Diao | we just raid if people are on |
| 20:56.32 | Diao | but when we do, most people stay for like 6ish hours |
| 20:56.34 | Diao | so we get a lot done |
| 20:56.49 | _rane | 6h.. |
| 20:56.57 | _rane | so everyone's stuck for 6 hours on their computers |
| 20:57.03 | Diao | well we have breaks |
| 20:57.11 | Diao | like |
| 20:57.14 | Diao | we'll go kill a boss |
| 20:57.14 | Pneumatus | we've got a lot of older raiders, so we start late so they get home and get their RL shit out of the way after work |
| 20:57.16 | Diao | take a few minutes break |
| 20:57.20 | Diao | 15-20 min |
| 20:57.23 | Diao | then continue |
| 20:57.38 | durcyn | 20 minutes? that's a bit much |
| 20:57.45 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, most of my guild have jobs they have to get up for, and thus can't stay up all hours ;) |
| 20:57.46 | Diao | since we raid 5:30-whenever people leave |
| 20:57.54 | chiper | whoa http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/sandboxshots/dalaran/dalaran_26.jpg |
| 20:58.13 | Diao | so do we :P |
| 20:58.31 | Diao | which is why we stop when people have to go |
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| 20:59.28 | Diao | we also raid weekends so that helps |
| 20:59.39 | Diao | thurs/sun are short days.. usually 2-3 hrs |
| 20:59.45 | Diao | fri/sat since people can stay up we raid longer |
| 20:59.49 | VonhintenHOME` | weekend raids don't work for us |
| 20:59.51 | VonhintenHOME` | never have |
| 21:00.15 | VonhintenHOME` | people do other shit on the weekends, they aren't interested in sitting at their computer, so we're always short |
| 21:00.19 | Diao | lol |
| 21:00.26 | Diao | all of my guildies do all their RL stuff during the week |
| 21:00.37 | Aiiane | we do tues/weds/fri |
| 21:00.38 | Diao | like watching movies, going out with friends after work/school and whatnot |
| 21:00.40 | odt | yeah, should find a guild that suits your playing style |
| 21:00.46 | Diao | so weekends are free for us |
| 21:00.51 | Aiiane | typically 4-5 hours |
| 21:00.56 | Diao | it's also nice because most guilds raid during the week |
| 21:00.59 | odt | weekends usually aren't free for people who have kids and so on |
| 21:01.04 | eliteevil | odt: I haven't found one yet that raids 7 days a week, 4 - 6 hours a day. |
| 21:01.05 | Diao | and a lot of people were leftover looking for a guild that could raid on the weekend |
| 21:01.12 | Vulcanus | chiper: I second your whoah and raise you a holy shit XD |
| 21:01.15 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.15 | Diao | and we were that guild :P |
| 21:01.16 | odt | eliteevil: tried nihilium? |
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| 21:01.26 | chiper | *grin* |
| 21:01.37 | odt | they welcome everyone who has no life |
| 21:01.38 | chiper | that looks a lot cooler than I thought it would |
| 21:01.45 | Vulcanus | indeed it does |
| 21:01.47 | eliteevil | I thought they were an EU guild? =P |
| 21:01.54 | chiper | when I heard that there'd just be a hole in the ground, I expected the worse |
| 21:01.57 | odt | you can roll a new char |
| 21:01.57 | Vulcanus | though I had no actual preconceptions about how it would look |
| 21:02.39 | eliteevil | odt: I'll pass, one of every class is enough for me. |
| 21:03.13 | Aiiane | so roll your DK on EU. oh wait... :P |
| 21:03.41 | eliteevil | I really should find a new guild though, I've been floating around without raiding for three weeks and I think I've gone insane. |
| 21:04.57 | NivFreak | do any of you guys have OTs actually attack mother? |
| 21:05.06 | NivFreak | or just /afk meatshield |
| 21:05.42 | yoshimo | eliteevil, withdrawal symptoms ? maybe it is good for you to stay away from raiding a while ;) |
| 21:05.52 | eliteevil | Yoshimo: Yeah, just a bit |
| 21:06.25 | eliteevil | NivFreak: Ours just afk'd, 'cause one time one of our OT's pulled agro and we weren't expecting it. =P |
| 21:06.45 | eliteevil | Druid >> Warrior on that fight though, only took us 4 months to figure that out |
| 21:07.07 | NivFreak | for OT or MT? |
| 21:07.07 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 21:07.09 | eliteevil | MT |
| 21:07.13 | eliteevil | OT doesn't matter |
| 21:07.18 | eliteevil | as long as they have hp |
| 21:07.28 | NivFreak | see |
| 21:07.31 | NivFreak | I was thinking bear at first |
| 21:07.35 | NivFreak | but with her damage output |
| 21:07.37 | CrazyBenny_ | we never used druid on mother and its fine:) |
| 21:07.38 | NivFreak | I have FAR more avoidance |
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| 21:08.03 | eliteevil | The damage output on the bear was much more consistant than on the warrior |
| 21:08.04 | NivFreak | and since threat isn't much of an issue |
| 21:08.04 | Kuosi | you can attack mother nowadays |
| 21:08.07 | Kuosi | as ot |
| 21:08.29 | NivFreak | Kuosi: I can't think of a real reason to though, and do you mean they capped parries or what? |
| 21:08.58 | Kuosi | mother shouldn't gain swing haste from parries anymore |
| 21:09.05 | AckisWork | lua> foo = "id:18802,type:7,react:[1,3],name:'Alchemist Gribble',desc:'Master Alchemy Trainer',minlevel:60,locs:[3483]";npcid, npctype, npcreact, npcname, npcdesc, npclevel, npclocs = string.match(foo, "id:(%d+),type:'(%d+)',react:(.+),name:'(.+)',desc:'(.+)',minlevel:(%d+),locs:(.+)");print(npcid) |
| 21:09.05 | lua_bot | AckisWork: nil |
| 21:09.13 | NivFreak | Kuosi: oh really |
| 21:09.48 | NivFreak | when did that change? |
| 21:09.59 | eliteevil | A while ago |
| 21:10.11 | Kuosi | been a while |
| 21:10.19 | NivFreak | it wasn't in the 2.2 nerfs was it? |
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| 21:12.34 | AckisWork | lua> foo = "id:18802,type:7,react:[1,3],name:'Alchemist Gribble',desc:'Master Alchemy Trainer',minlevel:60,locs:[3483]";npcid, npctype, npcreact, npcname, npcdesc, npclevel, npclocs = string.match(foo, "id:(%d+),type:(%d+),react:(.+),name:'(.+)',desc:'(.+)',minlevel:(%d+),locs:(.+)");print(npcid) |
| 21:12.34 | lua_bot | AckisWork: 18802 |
| 21:12.39 | AckisWork | victory |
| 21:12.47 | NivFreak | so, no crushing blows, no more parry streaks, no silences |
| 21:12.55 | NivFreak | why would you take a bear over a warrior for a MT? :) |
| 21:13.08 | NivFreak | I think higher avoidance wins over higher mitigation |
| 21:14.31 | eliteevil | We tried it one night and it seemed like it worked better, so we just stuck with the bear |
| 21:14.48 | NivFreak | bears always feel easier to heal |
| 21:14.51 | NivFreak | since they take steady dmg |
| 21:14.57 | Aiiane | smoother damage input makes healing more consistent |
| 21:15.04 | NivFreak | I'm just concerned about my healer mana |
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| 21:15.13 | NivFreak | maybe it won't be an issue |
| 21:15.21 | Aiiane | with more consistent healing |
| 21:15.22 | VonhintenHOME` | it's the bigger HP pool |
| 21:15.26 | Aiiane | you can stay out of FSR more |
| 21:15.38 | Aiiane | and afford to wait and burst-cast |
| 21:15.50 | NivFreak | my bears don't have more HP than I do :) |
| 21:16.01 | NivFreak | but for this fight I'm planning to avoidance tank |
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| 21:17.30 | CIA-45 | 03alar * r79008 10QuestTranslator2/ (QuestTranslator2.toc embeds.xml libs/): |
| 21:17.30 | CIA-45 | QuestTranslator2 |
| 21:17.30 | CIA-45 | Fixed missing external (AceLocale) |
| 21:18.18 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:18.21 | NivFreak | sabre lash can't crit? |
| 21:18.47 | charon | special abilities never crit (nor crush) |
| 21:18.58 | NivFreak | I knew spells didn't |
| 21:19.09 | NivFreak | I wasn't aware all yellows fell into that catagory |
| 21:19.48 | NivFreak | it's not like I ever tank critable ;) |
| 21:19.48 | charon | and btw, if your bears don't have more HP than your plate buddies, they're doing something wrong |
| 21:20.01 | NivFreak | charon: nah, they are just less geared |
| 21:20.01 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 21:20.01 | charon | (given same buffs) |
| 21:20.19 | NivFreak | I have about 23K health |
| 21:20.22 | NivFreak | they have about the same |
| 21:20.28 | NivFreak | (raid buffed) |
| 21:20.29 | CIA-45 | 03ackis * r79009 10AckisRecipeList/DataMiner.lua: |
| 21:20.30 | CIA-45 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 21:20.30 | CIA-45 | - More datamining updates will grab trainer names kinda |
| 21:20.36 | charon | wow, you should come over and teach our tanks to do that |
| 21:20.53 | NivFreak | honestly, there are very few fights it useful on as a warrior |
| 21:21.08 | NivFreak | once you break ~20K raid buffed |
| 21:21.38 | NivFreak | I find I'm normally better served capping hit / dodge via expertise and stacking about 800BV @ 20K |
| 21:21.45 | Aiiane | once you break ~20k raid buffed you're probably not going to die to RNG spike damage unless something went horribly wrong |
| 21:21.51 | NivFreak | yep |
| 21:21.53 | Aiiane | so its more a matter of overall mitigation |
| 21:22.02 | NivFreak | depends on the fight |
| 21:22.10 | NivFreak | I prefer to gear for threat whenever possible |
| 21:22.20 | Aiiane | (i was talking healing wise, but yes, threat too) |
| 21:22.25 | NivFreak | yea |
| 21:22.36 | NivFreak | I avoidance tank fights where threat isn't a real issue, but incoming damage is |
| 21:22.41 | NivFreak | aka archimonde |
| 21:22.59 | NivFreak | I've been the last person alive a few times on bad archimonde attempts |
| 21:23.06 | NivFreak | gg avoidance streaks |
| 21:23.40 | charon | heh. should teach _that_ to our tanks too. care for a server move? :p |
| 21:23.59 | Gagorian | !ar 1850 |
| 21:23.59 | Xinhuan | You cannot get more than 1511 arena points per week (5v5 points cap). |
| 21:24.02 | Gagorian | !ap 1850 |
| 21:24.07 | NivFreak | charon: hah |
| 21:24.09 | Gagorian | !ap 1850 |
| 21:24.10 | Xinhuan | 1850 rating gives 838(5s), 737(3s) and 637(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 21:24.14 | NivFreak | my guild would be so sad |
| 21:24.18 | NivFreak | to lose thier GM/RL/MT |
| 21:24.18 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 21:24.31 | NivFreak | and then someone would have to pay for vent/wws/web |
| 21:24.36 | charon | have you tried kalecgos? how do you do that? our plate MT keeps dying before the first tank comes back from spectral |
| 21:24.44 | NivFreak | We're not quite there yet |
| 21:24.56 | NivFreak | I started this guild a few months ago |
| 21:25.03 | NivFreak | started raiding in march |
| 21:25.05 | charon | and well, pretty much the same situation. no crushes, neat spikes for plate tanks |
| 21:25.07 | NivFreak | all of us in t4 |
| 21:25.21 | NivFreak | we now have everything down to mother |
| 21:25.29 | NivFreak | 6-7 hours of raiding total per week |
| 21:25.29 | charon | ah |
| 21:25.47 | NivFreak | post-nerf content is pretty easy |
| 21:25.55 | NivFreak | still fun though |
| 21:26.22 | NivFreak | anyway |
| 21:26.29 | NivFreak | aside from making healing easier |
| 21:26.35 | NivFreak | my bears don't have last stand or shield wall |
| 21:26.35 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 21:26.37 | Gnarfoz | what did you skip? Oo march - july seems fast for t4->mother |
| 21:26.49 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: we skipped nothing |
| 21:26.53 | NivFreak | ok, to be fair it was 2/28 |
| 21:26.54 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 21:27.03 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 21:27.10 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=13 |
| 21:27.13 | Vulcanus | is away: Movie tajm |
| 21:27.16 | NivFreak | there's our kills |
| 21:27.19 | NivFreak | we moved pretty fast |
| 21:27.29 | Gnarfoz | reminds me of how the reborn DnT went from rerolling to killing illidan in 3 IDs or so |
| 21:27.33 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 21:27.36 | NivFreak | I guess we killed zuljin on 2/12 |
| 21:27.37 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:27.46 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: we're not that leet ;P |
| 21:27.53 | Gnarfoz | they're basically, insane |
| 21:27.58 | NivFreak | and we don't raid much |
| 21:28.01 | Gnarfoz | and lol @ a glaive set in 3 kills ^^ |
| 21:28.04 | NivFreak | I have 2 raid days per week, 3 hours per day |
| 21:28.08 | NivFreak | I love it |
| 21:28.48 | Gnarfoz | woah they're at m'uru now, rofl |
| 21:28.56 | NivFreak | my only regret is, I don't think we'll have enough resets to get the gear for brutalus |
| 21:29.12 | NivFreak | before wrath is out |
| 21:29.31 | Kuosi | where is my glaive :( |
| 21:29.42 | Kuosi | tired of looking like one breasted woman |
| 21:29.49 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:30.02 | NivFreak | I wish they would change the MH to onehand |
| 21:30.03 | Gnarfoz | I mean |
| 21:30.04 | Gnarfoz | http://www.dtguilds.com/images/WoWScrnShot_071908_164938.jpg < |
| 21:30.13 | NivFreak | wtb 2xslow glaves |
| 21:30.19 | Gnarfoz | crystal pulse shield on a resto shammy... killing brutallus? |
| 21:30.19 | NivFreak | + set bonus |
| 21:30.24 | Gnarfoz | wtfisthat |
| 21:30.54 | Kuosi | its not even that bad item! |
| 21:31.03 | Gnarfoz | that's not the point xD |
| 21:31.24 | Gnarfoz | they rerolled horde what, 6 weeks ago? and now they're at M'uru? xD |
| 21:31.51 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm actually kinda stoked about the 10man dungeons in wotlk... our best 10 are as good as many of the elite guilds |
| 21:32.08 | VonhintenHOME` | Will be nice to be at the top of the server performance for a change |
| 21:32.31 | vithos | VonhintenHOME`: i feel the same way |
| 21:32.35 | Kuosi | tho |
| 21:32.38 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: wow... |
| 21:32.41 | Kuosi | being good doesnt mean all |
| 21:32.45 | Kuosi | but can you play 14h per day? |
| 21:32.56 | NivFreak | this proves horde > alliance |
| 21:32.57 | NivFreak | discuss |
| 21:33.02 | Cheads | hehe |
| 21:33.16 | Aiiane | grr... for some reason, none of the FontStrings (*except* HelpTitleText) nor the button are properly anchoring themselves here: http://ace.pastey.net/92298 |
| 21:33.18 | eliteevil | there needs to be discussion about that? =P |
| 21:33.20 | VonhintenHOME` | well, we don't have anyone that hardcore on garona |
| 21:33.22 | VonhintenHOME` | never have really |
| 21:33.28 | Aiiane | VonhintenHOME`, you're on Garona? |
| 21:33.34 | Aiiane | (US or EU?) |
| 21:33.37 | Cheads | might be very different from server to server. our top 2 guilds on the server doesn't raid that much really |
| 21:33.38 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, alliance, us |
| 21:33.41 | Aiiane | :o |
| 21:33.43 | Gnarfoz | it's not like they weren't good when they were alliance, but I guess their actual core players (some of which only came out of retirment with their reroll) are... yeah, insane ^^ |
| 21:33.44 | Cheads | only one of them killed m'uru though |
| 21:33.48 | Aiiane | I'm on horde garona us :P |
| 21:34.08 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I swear we discussed this before =P |
| 21:34.17 | Aiiane | maybe. i dont remember what guild you were in though |
| 21:34.24 | VonhintenHOME` | Dragon Bane |
| 21:34.30 | Aiiane | ah. Cry Havoc myself |
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| 21:34.58 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I've seen them around |
| 21:35.40 | Aiiane | Can't really say I recall seeing your guild around... but that's mostly due to the 6:1 ratio of alliance:horde guilds on the server I think >.> |
| 21:35.51 | VonhintenHOME` | hehe |
| 21:36.55 | Aiiane | lunaris, zoi, que sera, edge, and levity are really the only guilds that are more than murky names in my head (for no particular reason) |
| 21:37.05 | Aiiane | alliance side at least |
| 21:37.07 | VonhintenHOME` | Look around for bear mounts, only a hand full of them around, and our whole 10 man has them :) |
| 21:37.39 | Aiiane | yeah, my ZA run is about ~6-7 minutes off from bears atm, but we're working on that |
| 21:38.18 | eliteevil | I need to go farm a set of dungeon blues, so I stop getting whispers about my damn gear. |
| 21:38.19 | VonhintenHOME` | We've gotten up to 9 minutes to spare, hauling ass and using every shortcut |
| 21:38.28 | Aiiane | nods |
| 21:38.41 | VonhintenHOME` | I posted a vid of ours on the garona forum |
| 21:38.49 | VonhintenHOME` | za bear run, one of our early ones |
| 21:39.15 | Aiiane | We're still working a little on execution, and the past few weeks we've had to swap in a new person sometimes, which set us back a little |
| 21:39.17 | Corveroth | Hmm... trying to figure out a dependency problem here- are there any guidelines for the order in which I Include the assorted Libs? (Ace3) |
| 21:39.21 | sacarasc | VonhintenHOME`: got link? |
| 21:39.35 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, one sec |
| 21:40.28 | Aiiane | Going back to my previous topic though, could anyone who's decent with frame xml take a look at http://ace.pastey.net/92298 and see if they could figure out why none of the fontstrings/buttons are properly anchoring themselves to the frame (i.e. dont move when frame is moved), with the sole exception of HelpTitleText? |
| 21:41.32 | VonhintenHOME` | http://files.filefront.com/ZABearRunFinalavi/;10189230;/fileinfo.html |
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| 21:42.40 | VonhintenHOME` | first couple minutes are quite unimpressive on my part, totally forgot to put skills back on my bar after a respec and it threw me off =P |
| 21:43.17 | CIA-45 | 03Corveroth * r79010 10DrumCoord/embeds.xml: |
| 21:43.17 | CIA-45 | DrumCoord: |
| 21:43.17 | CIA-45 | -Caught ya. Dependencies should work again. |
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| 21:47.48 | NivFreak | Kuosi: ok, found the note, nerfed 2/22/08 |
| 21:47.54 | NivFreak | Kuosi: thanks for the tip |
| 21:48.21 | NivFreak | or "fixed" as Tigole put it |
| 21:48.27 | Kuosi | np |
| 21:48.41 | Kuosi | was fun boss back in the days |
| 21:48.47 | NivFreak | yea |
| 21:48.52 | NivFreak | I started on page 1 of the EJ thread |
| 21:48.52 | Kuosi | remember even mt stopping attack @ 10% :D |
| 21:48.54 | NivFreak | looked hellish |
| 21:49.04 | NivFreak | 28 pages later, it looks lol |
| 21:49.10 | CIA-45 | 03scorpion * r79011 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua: |
| 21:49.10 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 21:49.10 | CIA-45 | - zhTW readjust |
| 21:49.45 | CIA-45 | 03funkydude * r79012 10BadBoy/BadBoy.lua: BadBoy: Updated filterset |
| 21:50.58 | Aiiane | this XML is annoying me >< |
| 21:56.04 | Dezzimal | is there a way to clean out unused libraries? |
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| 21:56.56 | Pkekyo| | http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/traffics.jpg |
| 21:57.30 | Cheads | delete all libs and reinstall all addons without externals(but with dependencies) ? |
| 21:58.17 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07WotLK * r79013 10Parrot/Data/CombatEvents.lua: |
| 21:58.17 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 21:58.17 | CIA-45 | - merge more resists-fixes from trunk |
| 21:58.17 | CIA-45 | - fix Heal-events (since overheal shows in combatlog now) |
| 21:58.45 | Pkekyo| | http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4883/dukesoffallujahgs2.jpg |
| 22:02.16 | CIA-45 | 03jncl * r79014 10Skinner/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Skinner: Skinned DiamondThreatMeter, LootHog & ZOMGBuffs |
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| 22:03.42 | Aiiane | Okay, now I'm just plain confused. I've checked and doublechecked that I'm editing the right file, but WoW doesn't seem to be reflecting the changes I make to this XML, even after completely quitting and restarting it. >:| |
| 22:04.08 | nevcairiel | Heh. |
| 22:04.20 | nevcairiel | What are you changing? |
| 22:04.30 | Aiiane | ...nevermind, im an idiot. |
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| 22:05.46 | Dashkal | Forgot to save? |
| 22:05.58 | Aiiane | no |
| 22:06.14 | eliteevil | woo netsplit |
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| 22:06.56 | Aiiane | nothing to do with what I was editing at all, completely different stupid mistake |
| 22:06.56 | Aiiane | and lolnetsplit :x |
| 22:07.15 | eliteevil | I need to find a new guild >.> |
| 22:07.41 | eliteevil | US PvE, 3/6 or better, who needs a pally. |
| 22:07.42 | eliteevil | >.> |
| 22:08.07 | NivFreak | you forgot horde/ally ;) |
| 22:08.12 | NivFreak | but pve kills it for me :) |
| 22:08.14 | NivFreak | that and pally |
| 22:08.19 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:08.25 | eliteevil | Yeah, I already checked your recruitment page. =P |
| 22:08.29 | eliteevil | horde |
| 22:08.50 | NivFreak | plus we're not 3/6 ;) |
| 22:08.57 | eliteevil | Yeah, I know |
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| 22:09.44 | eliteevil | I'm to the point where I'm about to join a guild that's 1/5 Hyjal 3/4 TK |
| 22:09.50 | eliteevil | because I'm just that bored. |
| 22:09.52 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:10.01 | NivFreak | stuck on twins? |
| 22:10.08 | eliteevil | eh? |
| 22:10.13 | NivFreak | your current guild |
| 22:10.18 | eliteevil | exploded |
| 22:10.22 | NivFreak | ahh |
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| 22:10.29 | eliteevil | we got to twins... pulled them 4 times |
| 22:10.37 | CIA-45 | 03xinhuan * r79015 10Omen/Bar.lua: |
| 22:10.37 | CIA-45 | Omen: Fix bug that causes Omen to get stuck to the mouse while in combat. |
| 22:10.37 | CIA-45 | It occurs when you drag a threat bar (causing Omen to be dragged OnMouseDown), |
| 22:10.37 | CIA-45 | and then the threat bar clicked on gets hidden (usually because you switched |
| 22:10.37 | CIA-45 | targets), so the OnMouseUp event handler never gets fired to stop moving Omen. |
| 22:10.38 | CIA-45 | As a side effect of the fix, memory usage is slightly lowered. |
| 22:10.46 | eliteevil | and then the GM and 4 of the officers xfer'd, taking the gbank with them |
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| 22:10.59 | NivFreak | wow nice |
| 22:11.07 | NivFreak | that's pretty spectacular |
| 22:11.24 | eliteevil | Yep |
| 22:11.24 | NivFreak | AoC wiped out the top end horde on my server |
| 22:11.39 | eliteevil | Everyone I've talked to said AoC was bad. |
| 22:11.40 | NivFreak | we're just new getting multiple guilds past brutalus |
| 22:11.42 | Xinhuan | too bad aoc is crap |
| 22:11.44 | NivFreak | eliteevil: they did as well |
| 22:11.47 | NivFreak | but it was too late |
| 22:11.48 | NivFreak | they all ebayed |
| 22:11.48 | eliteevil | lol. |
| 22:11.57 | Xinhuan | dnt just killed twins ~_~ |
| 22:11.57 | NivFreak | MTs got $1800 |
| 22:11.58 | NivFreak | ... |
| 22:12.09 | eliteevil | I could probably get a good bit |
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| 22:12.21 | eliteevil | I'm 6/8 5/8 3/8 holy, prot, ret t6 |
| 22:12.24 | ccKep | wonders what someone would pay for chaninhealbot |
| 22:12.30 | NivFreak | they were only 6/8 t6 warriors |
| 22:12.55 | eliteevil | I was the guild respec bitch |
| 22:13.32 | Aiiane | I dps, tank, and heal for my guild >.> |
| 22:13.36 | eliteevil | ^ |
| 22:13.41 | eliteevil | That's what I used to do |
| 22:13.42 | Aiiane | on three different characters v.v |
| 22:13.48 | eliteevil | except it was one toon |
| 22:14.00 | VonhintenHOME` | $1800 isn't worth the time invested in my opinion |
| 22:14.01 | Aiiane | lock, tankadin, and priest |
| 22:14.06 | eliteevil | lolret for BT/Brut |
| 22:14.07 | NivFreak | VonhintenHOME`: it is if you're done |
| 22:14.12 | NivFreak | but I agree |
| 22:14.16 | NivFreak | I'd never sell my toons |
| 22:14.17 | Aiiane | VonhintenHOME`: if you're not planning on coming back, might as well get something out of it |
| 22:14.20 | Aiiane | but yeah |
| 22:14.20 | NivFreak | they are too personal to me |
| 22:14.36 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't plan on coming back to DAOC, but I still won't sell my 3 accts |
| 22:14.37 | eliteevil | Yeah, seeing "320 days" on Allplayed is the only reason I haven't ebayed |
| 22:14.51 | eliteevil | it'd hurt too much |
| 22:15.03 | VonhintenHOME` | There's a little more incentive in WoW since you can rename characters |
| 22:16.16 | eliteevil | Oh, and NivFreak, not only did they xfer and take the bank, they xfer'd to a 4/6 guild so they wouldn't have to learn twins |
| 22:16.26 | Aiiane | .. |
| 22:16.29 | Aiiane | wow |
| 22:16.31 | eliteevil | even though twins seemed like it'd be a real easy fight, as long as everyone was paying attention |
| 22:17.17 | eliteevil | (and if our mages learned that iceblock didn't save them from conflag.. 3 of the 4 pulls were wipes due to mage deaths.. the other was a premature pull from someone falling down when they were trying to get on the ledge) |
| 22:18.02 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:18.32 | eliteevil | We were used to it though, mages used to kill us on Archimonde all the time |
| 22:18.39 | eliteevil | cratering. |
| 22:18.50 | NivFreak | ... |
| 22:18.57 | NivFreak | I screamed at 2 mages for cratering |
| 22:19.06 | NivFreak | none of my mages have ever cratered ever agani |
| 22:19.07 | VonhintenHOME` | I hate the idea that everyone needs to stay alive to beat a fight |
| 22:19.08 | NivFreak | again |
| 22:19.12 | Aerr | blink returns you to the ground on archimonde |
| 22:19.15 | Aerr | mages fail |
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| 22:19.21 | NivFreak | Aerr: from any height? |
| 22:19.21 | eliteevil | Aerr: didn't they change that? |
| 22:19.25 | Aerr | no |
| 22:19.38 | Aerr | it happened last week when we went back to do him |
| 22:19.43 | eliteevil | ah cool |
| 22:19.46 | Aerr | any hight |
| 22:19.49 | NivFreak | I mean, there is the normal blink before impact behavior, but something different on archimonde? |
| 22:19.52 | NivFreak | wow |
| 22:19.54 | Aerr | height* |
| 22:20.03 | eliteevil | I haven't raided on my mage since we started BT |
| 22:20.04 | Aerr | if a mage craters, he fails |
| 22:20.23 | eliteevil | Yeah. Looking back we had a lot of fail |
| 22:20.24 | NivFreak | my point was |
| 22:20.31 | NivFreak | you have: slow fall, iceblock, blink, tear |
| 22:20.37 | NivFreak | WHY THE FUCK DID YOU CRATER |
| 22:20.48 | eliteevil | mages cratering, hunters pulling agro, other pallies BoPing me when I'm tanking skeletons on Felmyst |
| 22:20.53 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:21.06 | eliteevil | That's one I'll still never understand |
| 22:21.13 | chiper | holy shit... just watched some footage of a frost death knight. they're like fucking mages i plate |
| 22:21.14 | eliteevil | "You were taking damage!" |
| 22:21.20 | chiper | I so cant wait to play this class |
| 22:21.35 | NivFreak | I have a couple of my tanking buttons macro'd to clear BoP and salv |
| 22:21.37 | NivFreak | just in case |
| 22:21.49 | eliteevil | I used to have an addon to do it |
| 22:21.57 | eliteevil | but I mean, wtf. |
| 22:22.07 | eliteevil | "You're taking damage" was his reasoning. |
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| 22:22.38 | Aiiane | I have a "No" macro on my pally |
| 22:22.48 | Aiiane | that is just about 3-5 lines of /cancelauras |
| 22:22.51 | eliteevil | lol. |
| 22:22.57 | NivFreak | on my prot pally |
| 22:23.05 | NivFreak | my holyshield button clears salv/DS/BoP |
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| 22:23.15 | Aiiane | my holyshield button clears salv |
| 22:23.20 | Aiiane | doesn't clear DS/BoP tho |
| 22:23.44 | NivFreak | I occasionally pop DS to save my ass |
| 22:23.48 | NivFreak | and then clear it immediately |
| 22:23.53 | Aiiane | so do I... I just clear it with No after that |
| 22:23.57 | NivFreak | ah |
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| 22:24.49 | eliteevil | HA! I found the solution to my "gear problem" |
| 22:24.59 | eliteevil | of people whispering me all day "Nice gear, can I have it" |
| 22:24.59 | Aiiane | hm? |
| 22:25.17 | eliteevil | /Birthday Suit |
| 22:25.34 | eliteevil | It gets tiring. |
| 22:26.19 | Neya | that is why you only keep something simple on you whenever you ain't doing an instance |
| 22:26.38 | eliteevil | Neya: I vendored all the blues.. all I have now is the three sets of gear i use |
| 22:26.44 | Aiiane | I just ignore tells I dont care about |
| 22:27.34 | eliteevil | Yeah, but all I've been doing is standing around in town for the past week |
| 22:27.42 | eliteevil | I can only ignore so much. =P |
| 22:27.50 | Aiiane | lies |
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| 22:28.15 | Gnarfoz | eliteevil: did you update Decursive, and does it work now? |
| 22:28.27 | eliteevil | Gnarfoz: Appears to, the MUF is back. |
| 22:28.34 | Gnarfoz | the what |
| 22:28.35 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:28.41 | Aiiane | oh hmm, on the topic of Decursive |
| 22:28.43 | eliteevil | frame thingy. |
| 22:28.52 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea, but I'll take that as a yes |
| 22:28.52 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:29.02 | eliteevil | I'll go check |
| 22:29.16 | eliteevil | there's gotta be someone outside of org that can hit me with magic/poison/disease |
| 22:29.21 | Aiiane | the other night, a friend of mine who's a shadowpriest was trying to cleanse holy fires on maiden in an alt kara run |
| 22:29.33 | Aiiane | and it kept dropping him out of shadowform when he used decursive |
| 22:29.46 | Aiiane | directly using the ability worked without dropping him out of form |
| 22:30.06 | Gnarfoz | that'd require two clicks with decursive, if such functionality was even in there |
| 22:30.47 | Aiiane | well, my guess is that decursive might have been trying to do something with Cure Disease? since that's a holy spell that would auto-drop form |
| 22:31.06 | Aiiane | whereas dispel magic is disc, so it doesnt |
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| 22:31.17 | Gnarfoz | even trying would require two clicks |
| 22:31.44 | Aiiane | why? (sorry, I don't use decursive myself/haven't looked at the code, so I don't get what you're saying) |
| 22:31.45 | eliteevil | Gnarfoz: Thanks. It's working. |
| 22:31.56 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: one click, one action |
| 22:32.26 | Aiiane | hrm. |
| 22:32.35 | Gnarfoz | can't have /cast abolish disease /cast dispel magic in the same macro (or macrotext attribute of a secure unit frame, like decursive) and have it do both for the same hardware event |
| 22:32.55 | Aiiane | what if one failed, though? |
| 22:33.12 | Aiiane | would it carry over to the next? |
| 22:33.16 | Aiiane | I'd think so |
| 22:33.21 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 22:33.44 | Gnarfoz | at least that's my understanding? oO |
| 22:33.54 | Aiiane | I know you have have multiple /use's in the same macro |
| 22:33.57 | Gnarfoz | that'd kind of defeat the 'do the thinking yourself' part |
| 22:33.59 | Aiiane | I use it for healthstone macros etc |
| 22:34.08 | Aiiane | if one's on cooldown it cascades to the next |
| 22:34.14 | Pneumatus | with /use for sure it falls through to the next |
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| 22:34.44 | Aiiane | i can check in a sec if you want though Gnarfoz, I have a priest :) |
| 22:34.46 | Gnarfoz | that's /use though |
| 22:35.05 | Gnarfoz | and Abolish Disease would fail because the *target* in question has now disease to dispel |
| 22:35.16 | Aiiane | abolish doesn't fail |
| 22:35.18 | Aiiane | period |
| 22:35.24 | Aiiane | it doesnt require an active debuff |
| 22:35.30 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:35.36 | Gnarfoz | you just proposed 'what if one failed' :D |
| 22:35.40 | Aiiane | yes... dispel |
| 22:35.54 | Gnarfoz | if it used dispel magic first |
| 22:35.59 | Aiiane | *tried to use |
| 22:36.02 | Gnarfoz | he wouldn't have had the problem in the firs tplace ;) |
| 22:36.26 | Aiiane | well i'm wondering if someone else cleansed it, and so it used abolish instead |
| 22:37.40 | Gnarfoz | I'm still thinking this kind of automation is something that went away in 2.0 |
| 22:39.20 | Aiiane | k, just tested, it doesn't cascade |
| 22:39.24 | Aiiane | so that theory is out |
| 22:39.30 | Aiiane | still wondering why it was doing that though :| |
| 22:39.33 | Neothor | Can someone tell me/ or know an tutorial to paint objects (like buttons, icons..) on the screen with Ace3 |
| 22:40.46 | Gnarfoz | bah |
| 22:40.52 | Gnarfoz | Decursive's code is a ugly mess |
| 22:41.04 | Gnarfoz | it has both forward and reversed priority lists for spells |
| 22:41.16 | Gnarfoz | can't quite figure out how it determines the order, though |
| 22:41.28 | Gnarfoz | somebody should probably check that, maybe the author that doesn't ever show up here :p |
| 22:41.34 | Gnarfoz | ~seen archarodim |
| 22:41.53 | purl | archarodim <n=Archarod@ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-31-194.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 297d 5h 20m 49s ago, saying: 'ohh they changed the music in BootyBay Inn'. |
| 22:41.53 | VonhintenHOME` | metatable indexer? |
| 22:42.00 | Aiiane | ...yeah |
| 22:42.12 | eliteevil | You can choose the order that it dispels |
| 22:42.53 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: nah, not that arcane, just convoluted and in dire need of a proper rewrite ;p |
| 22:46.53 | mykx | I wouldn't say dire, you can live without it lol |
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| 22:52.31 | Gnarfoz | mykx: yeah indeed, I'm not even using it^^ |
| 22:52.33 | Antiarc | Ackis: I know about those Chatter updates. That's my server :P |
| 22:54.01 | CIA-45 | 03antiarc 07WotLK * r79016 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Ace3 - Fix slash handlers for this build of WotLK. Will need to be changed yet again with the next patch. |
| 22:54.41 | mykx | lol you guys are making wotlk addons already? I applaud your commitment but dont you think its a bit early |
| 22:54.45 | CIA-45 | 03antiarc 07WotLK * r79017 10MobSpells/: made a copy |
| 22:55.22 | VonhintenHOME` | not early at all |
| 22:55.22 | VonhintenHOME` | means they'll be ready for wotlk when its out |
| 22:55.24 | mykx | true true but they will probably change some API stuff in a few months for the facepalm |
| 22:55.46 | Arrowmaster | except we need working copies for beta |
| 22:55.48 | VonhintenHOME` | what's the deal with threat monitoring Antiarc, did they implement their own? |
| 22:56.03 | Antiarc | No, not yet |
| 22:56.20 | Antiarc | Yoshi talked to me about some things they might do, but they're undecided and confidential at this point |
| 22:56.36 | VonhintenHOME` | they should just release an API imo |
| 22:56.41 | Antiarc | mykx: Threat-2.0 sucked so bad because I didn't get a jump on it too quickly :P |
| 22:56.49 | Antiarc | They can't, really, due to bandwidth concerns |
| 22:57.23 | mykx | meh I guess, it's cool that all you addon authors have beta invites so when it comes out all the mods will *hopefully* be working |
| 22:57.43 | Arrowmaster | we dont have our invites yet |
| 22:58.00 | mykx | oh really? I thought wowinterface gave em out or something |
| 22:58.05 | Arrowmaster | but some were in F&F |
| 22:58.29 | CIA-45 | 03antiarc 07WotLK * r79018 10MobSpells/ (Libs/ MobSpells.toc): MobSpells: Bump the TOC, update libs to branches |
| 22:58.41 | Dashkal | mykx: it isn't as simple as sending a PM to someone at wowi or curse and here's your key go play. They're coming, but it'll be a bit |
| 22:58.57 | mykx | meh I guess, you have to verify that it's not a copy paste job :P |
| 22:59.16 | Dashkal | And from what I've heard quite a few twits are doing just that to scam keys |
| 22:59.35 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: can you talk to yoshi about this silly 1/nil crap and get it replaced with proper true/false? |
| 23:00.04 | Antiarc | Which api calls? |
| 23:00.09 | Arrowmaster | all? |
| 23:00.14 | Antiarc | Meh, I don't mind it :P |
| 23:00.19 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 23:00.21 | Antiarc | But I'll mention it next time we chat |
| 23:00.33 | Arrowmaster | especially when they are adding even more stuff thats using 1/nil |
| 23:00.45 | Arrowmaster | like |
| 23:00.47 | Arrowmaster | NEW value = GetCVarBool("cvar") - Returns the value of the cvar as 1 or nil instead of requiring you to compare the cvar value with "0" or "1" |
| 23:01.06 | mykx | I just hope that blizzard don't listen to the feedback of the majority of karazhan raiders with opinions about my class :p |
| 23:01.34 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: 1/nil is a little faster, tbh |
| 23:01.39 | Shirik | unnoticable, probably |
| 23:01.42 | Shirik | but it's easier to code too |
| 23:01.49 | Arrowmaster | ... |
| 23:02.02 | Shirik | well it is! |
| 23:02.07 | Kolie | Any WAU users know if it runs as admininstrator ( and therefore bypasses UAC ) ? |
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| 23:02.12 | Antiarc | return without a value doesn't require pushing a return value onto the stack :P |
| 23:02.18 | Antiarc | And evaluates as nil |
| 23:02.19 | Shirik | exactly :) |
| 23:02.25 | Antiarc | whereas return false requires pushing a false onto the stack |
| 23:02.56 | Shirik | the real question is |
| 23:02.59 | Shirik | are they returning nil or nothing :) |
| 23:03.04 | Shirik | I would bet it's nothing |
| 23:04.28 | Arrowmaster | i would consider true/false easyer to work with in lua, especially for inexperienced coders that dont know all the little secrets and quirks of the blizzard api |
| 23:04.40 | Aiiane | it also makes it easier to debug |
| 23:04.48 | Aiiane | if you know for sure what you got back is a "false" value |
| 23:04.51 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: In Lua, I totally agree |
| 23:05.04 | Shirik | in C, it's simply easier to return nothing than it is to return false |
| 23:05.23 | Kolie | wuvs c(pp) |
| 23:05.42 | Aiiane | but if say, i have table.member = funccall() |
| 23:06.45 | Aiiane | I'd get an error about nil if I tried to do table.member["index"] if I got a "false" return value, but i'd also get an error if i tried to do table.memZr["index"] |
| 23:07.10 | Aiiane | er, sorry, if i got a "nil" return value |
| 23:07.19 | Shirik | the real question is, why would you be trying to index something that's 1 or nil? |
| 23:07.23 | Shirik | in either case |
| 23:07.34 | Aiiane | hopefully you wouldn't |
| 23:08.00 | Aiiane | but just in terms of general design |
| 23:08.19 | Aiiane | returning nil as a meaningful result in lua doesn't promote ease of debugging |
| 23:08.35 | Shirik | I should point out that I'm not one to advocate beauty over speed :P |
| 23:08.37 | Aiiane | unless you actually mean "nothing" |
| 23:08.50 | Shirik | I should also point out I'm partially playing devil's advocate here |
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| 23:09.17 | Aiiane | heya Kaelten |
| 23:11.04 | Kaelten | hi |
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| 23:18.32 | Antiarc | "I was disappointed when I realized that the bear trap didn't release an actual bear, along the same lines as the snake trap." |
| 23:18.38 | Antiarc | That would be awesome as hell |
| 23:18.42 | Aiiane | haha |
| 23:19.03 | Aiiane | if that were the case |
| 23:19.09 | Arrowmaster | bear trap? |
| 23:19.10 | Aiiane | we'd need to petition for a ninja trap |
| 23:19.10 | Gnarfoz | it should trap druids |
| 23:19.25 | Aiiane | "and suddenly, ninjas! thousands of them!" |
| 23:20.37 | Codayus | That was my first thought about the bear trap too... |
| 23:20.50 | Vulcanus | is back (gone 01:53:36) |
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| 23:26.21 | Gnarfoz | ZONE_CHANGED (and ZONE_CHANGED_NEW_AREA) don't fire inside instances, do they? if so, does anything else fire in their place? |
| 23:26.40 | Arrowmaster | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 23:26.58 | Arrowmaster | and those do fire |
| 23:27.07 | Arrowmaster | atleast ZONE_CHANGED does |
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| 23:49.36 | Antiarc | "ComingSoon.net caught up with DreamWorks Animations CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg on Tuesday and learned that George Lucas is looking to repurpose the six "Star Wars" episodes into 3D format. " |
| 23:49.42 | Antiarc | what now just stop now Lucas |
| 23:51.13 | Aeyan | I'm a bit late for the comment, but I have to admit that was the first thing I thought of when I saw Bear Trap, Antiarc, until my brain actually switched on a second later. |
| 23:51.33 | VonhintenHOME` | lucas will be milking star wars until the day he dies |
| 23:51.40 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 23:51.48 | Aeyan | Ello |
| 23:52.30 | Antiarc | I heard that in the next expansion, "World of Warcraft: Titans...IN SPACE!" hunters are getting Devilsaur trap, which releases 6-8 Devilsaurs. These devilsaurs have stealth. |
| 23:53.39 | Chompers | sounds like another warlock buff |
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