| 00:00.07 | Tuller | metatable magic of meta |
| 00:00.07 | JoshBorke | i know i measure my man-hood based on my ability to make the smallest possible code (line count of course) |
| 00:00.21 | selckin | perlgasm |
| 00:00.24 | Xinhuan | wouldn't you like to be paid by "lines of code"? ;p |
| 00:00.30 | ckknight | JoshBorke: it's about necessity and clarity |
| 00:00.37 | Tuller | I would love to be paid by lines of code removed sometimes |
| 00:00.43 | ckknight | it's just as clear if it's done the smaller way, clearer, even |
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| 00:01.07 | Tuller | not always :) |
| 00:01.12 | VonhintenHOME` | imo, the closer the code looks like a C derivative language, the better |
| 00:01.18 | JoshBorke | i would definitely contend that condensing does not always make it clearer |
| 00:01.45 | JoshBorke | it depends on who is reading the code |
| 00:01.50 | selckin | reading other people's perl code is the worst thing in the world |
| 00:01.55 | ckknight | Tuller: I meant in this case, not always. |
| 00:02.05 | Tuller | well technically |
| 00:02.08 | Tuller | we had to ask what it was |
| 00:02.12 | VonhintenHOME` | Far more people will understand code that uses constructs similar to C derivative languages than any other |
| 00:02.27 | JoshBorke | VonhintenHOME`: isn't that just because they were taught based on a C derived language? |
| 00:02.35 | Tuller | shall I throw down the pascal? |
| 00:02.46 | JoshBorke | VonhintenHOME`: if someone were only taught lisp derived language, wouldn't they find C languages very confusing? |
| 00:02.48 | Zhinjio | Blort := 2! |
| 00:02.49 | Zhinjio | yikes. |
| 00:02.52 | JoshBorke | purl, hate scheme |
| 00:02.53 | purl | Hey joshborke, ,,|, |
| 00:02.55 | Zhinjio | its been a long time. |
| 00:03.06 | JoshBorke | ...i don't get it |
| 00:03.24 | ckknight | my other car is a cdr |
| 00:03.42 | Dashkal | At some point I should probably learn scheme or lisp just to get jokes like that... |
| 00:03.45 | Tuller | where be my lisp interpreter in lua |
| 00:03.58 | JoshBorke | i know scheme, and i have no idea what ,,|, is supposed to be |
| 00:04.02 | JoshBorke | it's missing the parens! |
| 00:04.04 | Tuller | neither do I :) |
| 00:04.06 | VonhintenHOME` | well, as far as I'm concerned, if you don't have some base in a C derivative language, you're just a hobbyist programmer :) |
| 00:04.15 | JoshBorke | VonhintenHOME`: lol |
| 00:04.24 | Dashkal | blinks |
| 00:04.28 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: ...Lisp? |
| 00:04.33 | JoshBorke | let's be real, we are all nothing compared to the mathematicians |
| 00:04.50 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: Dude, go look at merk and co for mud codebases... C != anything even remotely resembling skill |
| 00:04.52 | Tuller | then what was all of the predicate calculus for? |
| 00:04.59 | Dashkal | erm, merc* |
| 00:05.11 | JoshBorke | Tuller: to give you something to think about when you touch yourself at night? |
| 00:05.17 | Dashkal | still has nightmares from hacking at godwars code |
| 00:05.22 | Tuller | oh lambda, oh lambda, oh lambda |
| 00:05.27 | JoshBorke | rofl |
| 00:05.39 | Dashkal | Trying to drink water while reading this channel is dangerous... |
| 00:05.59 | JoshBorke | ~emulate tuller |
| 00:06.01 | VonhintenHOME` | well, there's certainly a lot of bad C code out there, but I was referring more to the shear volume of code that is based in C structure |
| 00:06.19 | VonhintenHOME` | C, C++, Java, C#, ECMAScript (formerly javascript), etc |
| 00:06.22 | JoshBorke | ~emulate tuller |
| 00:06.22 | purl | oh lambda, oh lambda, oh lambda |
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| 00:06.40 | ckknight | VonhintenHOME`: what's wrong with the other languages? |
| 00:06.50 | Dashkal | ^^ |
| 00:07.00 | ckknight | python, ruby, lua, erlang, lisp |
| 00:07.03 | Tuller | { is totally more readable than begin end, that's what :P |
| 00:07.21 | Tuller | you forgot the thing I cannot remember the name of |
| 00:07.28 | JoshBorke | assembly obviously |
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| 00:07.51 | Tuller | prolog, yay |
| 00:07.52 | Osstia | anyone know offhand how to show the clock settings window if you do not have the Sun/Moon button on your minimap |
| 00:08.00 | Groktar | oh god |
| 00:08.03 | JoshBorke | open the options window? |
| 00:08.07 | Groktar | forces Tuller to write everything in prolog |
| 00:08.07 | VonhintenHOME` | nothing is wrong with them, just that if it comes down to using some fucked up language feature like @thing ||= stuff; you should probably just reform is as something resembling the common denominator :) |
| 00:08.22 | JoshBorke | why? |
| 00:08.39 | JoshBorke | look at the way human language developed |
| 00:08.41 | Dashkal | While C and derived are the most common, they aren't the 'best'. |
| 00:09.28 | ckknight | I like @thing ||= stuff, it's very handy |
| 00:09.30 | Dashkal | It would certainly be 'simpler' (from the perspective of learning new codebases) if everything was in the same family, but hardly better. |
| 00:09.32 | ckknight | easy memoization |
| 00:09.36 | VonhintenHOME` | A very good reason... I don't know Python, Ruby, Lisp, etc... I didn't know Lua until a little while ago... |
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| 00:09.49 | ckknight | I know about 20 languages... |
| 00:09.52 | ckknight | give or take |
| 00:09.56 | Tuller | lua is painfully easy to read at a basic level |
| 00:09.59 | VonhintenHOME` | but, I won't have any problem picking them up, until someone uses some stupid language feature |
| 00:10.24 | Dashkal | So you're equating 'new' with 'stupid'? |
| 00:10.29 | VonhintenHOME` | in an effort to make code more elegant, when clearer would have made it easy for me to read, and functioned just the same |
| 00:10.58 | ckknight | I don't see how it's not clear |
| 00:10.59 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm talking about readability, at a general level |
| 00:11.02 | Tuller | so do metatables and anon functions scare you? :) |
| 00:11.10 | ckknight | it's basically, set the class variable @thing if not set to stuff |
| 00:11.11 | JoshBorke | Tuller: yes |
| 00:11.18 | Dashkal | I'm starting to smell a troll. You're complaining that you might have to learn new concepts to read code? |
| 00:11.31 | JoshBorke | Tuller: specifically anon functions |
| 00:11.37 | JoshBorke | Tuller: because they are impossible to debug |
| 00:11.41 | Tuller | aww |
| 00:11.53 | Tuller | note to self |
| 00:11.59 | Tuller | wrap dominos in one anon function |
| 00:12.06 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:12.08 | Tuller | loadstring it |
| 00:12.08 | ckknight | lol. |
| 00:12.09 | JoshBorke | wtf is dominos? |
| 00:12.16 | VonhintenHOME` | metatables were easy to understand |
| 00:12.26 | Tuller | bongos2.5 |
| 00:12.26 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 00:12.28 | JoshBorke | that's funny |
| 00:12.33 | JoshBorke | good one VonhintenHOME` |
| 00:13.12 | VonhintenHOME` | My biggest problem with Lua has been separating the idea behind a class and an instance not being separate things, and closures |
| 00:13.37 | Dashkal | lua doesn't have classes unless you teach it so. Teach it classes where class and instance aren't the same thing |
| 00:14.00 | VonhintenHOME` | but the line is blurred |
| 00:14.04 | Chompers | how'd you transition from theoretical to practical with programming languages ckk |
| 00:14.06 | VonhintenHOME` | it's not a definite separation |
| 00:14.07 | sylvanaar | so many fun forum threads this week |
| 00:14.14 | Dashkal | There isn't a line until you define it. lua doesn't have classes. |
| 00:14.22 | Dashkal | tables are more like structs than objects |
| 00:14.24 | ckknight | Chompers: how do you mean? |
| 00:14.42 | Chompers | i can read about a langauge but fail at actually using it, i just can't really thing of anything to do with it |
| 00:14.46 | VonhintenHOME` | but it clearly does, that's the problem. It requires you to treat them as such, but it definitely supports the notion |
| 00:14.55 | ckknight | Chompers: *shrug* I started when I was 10 |
| 00:15.20 | Chompers | i guess it just doesn't come naturally for me |
| 00:15.22 | VonhintenHOME` | I come from languages with strict typing, it's a tough concept to wrap your head around |
| 00:15.23 | Chompers | and that sucks |
| 00:15.29 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: welcome to fourth gen |
| 00:15.34 | VonhintenHOME` | metatables were easy |
| 00:15.44 | ag` | Chompers: Can't think of anything to do with it? Well, if you pick up lua you could do addons :P |
| 00:15.45 | Tuller | just like the ladies... |
| 00:16.09 | CIA-45 | 03yleaf * r79084 10LoggerHead/ (4 files): |
| 00:16.09 | CIA-45 | LoggerHead |
| 00:16.09 | CIA-45 | - locale files fix |
| 00:16.43 | Chompers | ag, it'd be a waste of time, basic text printing in a box crap |
| 00:16.59 | Tuller | hey that's what my first lua thing was |
| 00:17.49 | sylvanaar | printing to the error frame |
| 00:18.17 | ag` | Chompers: Well then learn C and improve on Gnome. I'd wouldn't mind things going faster on my desktop :P |
| 00:18.50 | JoshBorke | Chompers: yea, look at tuller now! he's making basic boxes with text printing! |
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| 00:19.06 | Arrowmaster | ah no wonder LoggerHead seemed broken, it got converted to Ace3 but is using the same SavedVar |
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| 00:20.05 | Dashkal | hmm, wonder when kde4's kerning will be fixed |
| 00:20.08 | Luthorhuss | happend to me with click2cast the other days aswell |
| 00:20.17 | Dashkal | my taskbar keeys having letters run into each other |
| 00:20.46 | Xuerian | JoshBorke: Owch. XD |
| 00:21.10 | Xuerian | ag`: Thanks for the motivation bump |
| 00:21.35 | ag` | Xuerian: np:) You doing the modules too? |
| 00:21.45 | JoshBorke | Xuerian: :-D |
| 00:22.21 | ag` | I wish someone would give me a motivation bump :D! |
| 00:23.22 | Xuerian | ag`: Lol. yeah, I'll probably do the modules too, except Group, for which TeksLoot does a better job anyway. |
| 00:23.48 | Diao | teksloot + xloot/other modules is awesome |
| 00:23.52 | Diao | it's what i use :D |
| 00:25.23 | Xuerian | ag`: Duno how to bump you though. Unitframes are deeper than I wanna go =P |
| 00:25.23 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster * r79085 10LoggerHead/LoggerHead.lua: LoggerHead: use a default global profile for db.profile instead of perchar |
| 00:25.25 | ag` | Xuerian: I can't remember what you wrote in your thread about what you meant to do, but the modules are different enough to be separate addons |
| 00:25.52 | ag` | so don't make them dependent of each other :) |
| 00:26.14 | Xuerian | ag`: Yeah, that's the plan. XLoot, and either "Loot *" or different names for Monitor, History, and Master. None inter-dependent. |
| 00:27.10 | VonhintenHOME` | What, you rewriting them? |
| 00:27.29 | ag` | anyway yeah, I didn't mean for any specific person to give me a bump, I just wouldn't mind one :P The thing I did was for myself and I'm glad it helped you too |
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| 00:29.35 | Xuerian | ag`: lol. Ah well. Worked out pretty well =). 1.0 in branches should be perfectly usable if that's what you wanted out of it. I didn't keep many features that you didn't - Did a whole lot of extravagant stuff in the first one/first workup of 1.0. |
| 00:30.36 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: I WILL be re-writing XLoot Monitor, yes. It depends on AnchorsAway (Which I, sadly, wrote), which rates just below ... what is it... ItemBonusLib? The one RatingBuster uses.. in how much of a headache it'll give anyone who reads it. |
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| 00:30.39 | ag` | Yep I didn't add that many, but it should be easy as a stepping stone to add all features the old one had |
| 00:32.09 | Xuerian | ag`: The current revision in branches is pretty much that - I could pretty much replace the trunk version with it, and no one would be much wiser unless they used some exotic options |
| 00:32.12 | VonhintenHOME` | not xloot itself though? |
| 00:32.24 | VonhintenHOME` | monitor is one of those ones I'm not sure why I still use actually |
| 00:32.35 | VonhintenHOME` | it mostly just gets in my way |
| 00:32.37 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: That's already done, mostly. Thanks to Ag`, who went ahead and strippted it down a bit and converted it to Ace3/Ace3 config |
| 00:32.56 | ag` | Xuerian: old database structure is different tho from AceDB 2 to 3, so people would lose their options :) |
| 00:33.05 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: I'm still pondering how to do that. I might just make it something like a chat message enhancement, like making the messages for loot more simple and adding icons and such. |
| 00:33.37 | Xuerian | ag`: Well, yes, aside from re-configuring - They should be able to achieve mostly the same thing. Gives me much less of a headache though. |
| 00:34.14 | ag` | yep |
| 00:34.17 | JoshBorke | Xuerian|BRB, ag`: what are you talking about? |
| 00:34.19 | VonhintenHOME` | Gotta find a use case I think... there isn't really a good use case I can think of for why every piece of loot should be displayed |
| 00:34.35 | VonhintenHOME` | In fact, a history is really all you need, when requested |
| 00:34.53 | VonhintenHOME` | imo |
| 00:35.03 | ag` | JoshBorke: XLoot, I did a branch of it to Ace3, and Xuerian picked it up from there again |
| 00:35.18 | JoshBorke | ag`: ah, cool |
| 00:35.23 | JoshBorke | ag`: thanks for pioneering the LDB stuff |
| 00:35.48 | ag` | JoshBorke: hehe, np. Was hard getting people to use it |
| 00:35.53 | ag` | :P |
| 00:36.00 | JoshBorke | ag`: yea it was |
| 00:37.09 | ag` | Borlox did a great part of it with Fortress, I don't know if I could've been bothered to begin yet another addon from the beginning again :P |
| 00:37.30 | Daemona | fortress? |
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| 00:37.47 | ag` | LDB display addon |
| 00:37.47 | JoshBorke | hey! that was based off my example mod |
| 00:38.03 | cladhaire | COPYRIGHT VIOLATION |
| 00:38.03 | ag` | how would I know :D |
| 00:38.04 | cladhaire | sue him |
| 00:38.08 | cladhaire | kpls |
| 00:38.20 | ag` | objection! |
| 00:38.31 | JoshBorke | no, i mean like, i did the starting work for it |
| 00:38.39 | JoshBorke | but he actually made it usable |
| 00:38.44 | cladhaire | :P |
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| 00:39.11 | ag` | it is still a derivate :P |
| 00:39.13 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: are you going to switch to WOM2 on ikariam? |
| 00:39.16 | Daemona | uhhh and LibDataBroker is doing what again? *confused* |
| 00:39.23 | cladhaire | I was thinking about it |
| 00:39.27 | cladhaire | but I don't mind attacking :P |
| 00:39.30 | JoshBorke | Daemona: display agnostic fubar stuff |
| 00:39.32 | ag` | ~LDB |
| 00:39.32 | purl | ldb is probably a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 00:39.33 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: lol |
| 00:39.37 | cladhaire | either way we're protected under the same umbrella |
| 00:39.44 | cladhaire | i don't mind being muscle |
| 00:39.45 | JoshBorke | cladhaire: you're much farther along than i am |
| 00:39.52 | cladhaire | i'm really really far along, actually |
| 00:39.59 | cladhaire | fully workshopped |
| 00:40.02 | Daemona | you guys trying to trash fubar eeh? |
| 00:40.15 | ag` | trash? :P |
| 00:40.16 | ag` | I am going to steal your astroids JoshBorke |
| 00:40.23 | Daemona | fortress, statsblock |
| 00:40.48 | JoshBorke | it's called competition :-) |
| 00:41.23 | ag` | It is questionable how popular it will become as it is quite uncertain how many users won't get confused over the concept at the different names everyone uses |
| 00:41.25 | ag` | :P |
| 00:41.32 | Daemona | hehe |
| 00:41.47 | Daemona | the problem is, competing against all the established fubar plugins |
| 00:42.49 | ag` | I already think my battleground minimap icon replacement is better than anything made for fubar :P |
| 00:43.18 | ag` | because it is so simple and just does what it is meant to do |
| 00:44.31 | Daemona | i guess i really have to redo my ui sometime this summer |
| 00:44.39 | Daemona | note functionality |
| 00:44.45 | Daemona | and trying to get rid of vertain stuff |
| 00:44.47 | Daemona | ... |
| 00:44.55 | Daemona | but ... human ... lazy.... aaaaah |
| 00:47.20 | Xinhuan | hmm that addon copyright thread blew up |
| 00:47.30 | Dashkal | Xinhuan: where? |
| 00:47.42 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14385.0;topicseen |
| 00:48.09 | ag` | I've made a deal with myself to steer clear of any edrama, I've had enough of that |
| 00:49.19 | ag` | anyway, is it too late to upload an addon for getting a WotLK key? Most of my stuff is on SVN really, but I need a key :( |
| 00:49.36 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: The use case for Monitor was mostly more clearly visualizing the flow of loot. Its other main use is seeing how many total of a item you have. |
| 00:50.51 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: I just started laughing when it was a article about mazzle being pissed his code was copied |
| 00:50.58 | VonhintenHOME` | (which it currently is bugged at doing, showing +1 of what you actually have =p) |
| 00:51.13 | Xinhuan | just try it ag |
| 00:51.16 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Xloot, for one, was/is in MazzleUI, and I don't really care - though he never asked :P |
| 00:51.31 | Xinhuan | what's in his UI list btw? |
| 00:51.33 | Xinhuan | got a link? |
| 00:51.42 | Saroz | nevcairiel, ping |
| 00:51.43 | Xuerian | Check on wowI, it should list all the addons inn it |
| 00:51.49 | Xinhuan | get me a link please ^^ |
| 00:51.53 | Xuerian | bah |
| 00:51.53 | Zyndrome | wut 5 pages? I thought it would just die quickly :< |
| 00:52.26 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6311-MazzleUI.html |
| 00:52.40 | Dashkal | oh wow, this is a can of worms |
| 00:52.45 | Xuerian | Well, ok |
| 00:52.49 | Xuerian | Doesn't list them anymore |
| 00:53.39 | Dashkal | If this article is accurate and things really are as described, Kaelten fucked up |
| 00:53.51 | Xinhuan | downloading it to see if i have anything i own in it ;p |
| 00:54.13 | Dashkal | if not, *shrugs* |
| 00:54.35 | Groktar | o no i just got reported for exploits! |
| 00:54.47 | Xinhuan | hmm htat's interesting |
| 00:54.54 | Dashkal | that article has such a slant to it I don't entirely trust it to be accurate |
| 00:54.55 | Xinhuan | the only thing in it is.. Bongos and MazzleUi |
| 00:55.14 | Tuller | he got permission from me, actually |
| 00:55.34 | Xuerian | Tuller: I'm curious, when? |
| 00:55.43 | cladhaire | its not entirely accurate |
| 00:55.56 | Tuller | when he decided to use a modified version of bongos in mazzle, basically |
| 00:56.06 | Xinhuan | what did he modify? |
| 00:56.24 | Tuller | mazzle's version (coded by tigerheart mostly), has variable length bars |
| 00:56.26 | Tekkub | the article brings the issue to light, which is certainly what Mazz wanted... but it also does it quite messy-ily |
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| 00:56.44 | cladhaire | the article would have been factual |
| 00:56.48 | cladhaire | were it written in february |
| 00:56.51 | Xuerian | Tekkub: It also reminds me when a lawyer offered to do pro-bono IP work on the WoW forums for addon authors |
| 00:56.59 | cladhaire | Xuerian: lol that was hilarious :P |
| 00:57.08 | Xuerian | I flew off the handle on that one, clad |
| 00:57.17 | Tekkub | oh crap, I need a lawyer now? |
| 00:57.23 | Tuller | yes |
| 00:57.28 | Tuller | but for public nudity |
| 00:57.39 | HunterZ0 | Arrowmaster: you around? |
| 00:57.57 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 00:58.07 | Seracht | hi, what's the wow interface channel again? |
| 00:58.11 | HunterZ0 | any idea why the recent updates to Loggerhead have completely broken all of my Ace2 addons? |
| 00:58.14 | Xinhuan | u gave me the wrong link Xuerian ;p |
| 00:58.18 | Xinhuan | should be http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8986-MazzleUIAddonPack.html |
| 00:58.19 | Dashkal | Meh, this is why I'm sticking with 2 clause BSD. I want to maintain my ownership of the code, and I don't give a flying fuck if you gank it and use it elsewhere. Just don't try to turn around and claim you wrote it and I can't use it |
| 00:58.30 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: Oh, haha. That'd explain it |
| 00:58.33 | Arrowmaster | HunterZ0: umm it doesnt use ace2 anymore |
| 00:59.36 | Xuerian | cladhaire: It was hilarious, but it brought forth the issue that copying is done a -lot- in the addon community. Both direct code (wrong, imho) and code concept/implementation concept (Just fine). Except... with the element of hostility that this article has. Things are ripe to go to hell in a handbag. So far, no one has taken it down that road |
| 01:00.14 | HunterZ0 | arrowmaster: i know, but it's preventing all of my ace2 addons from loading, and bugsack is showing errors about protected metatables etc. disabling or reverting loggerhead makes the issue go away. |
| 01:00.27 | Tuller | sometimes I think i'm the only person that likes that compilations exist :P |
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| 01:00.43 | Arrowmaster | HunterZ0: i have no clue |
| 01:00.48 | HunterZ0 | Arrowmaster :\ |
| 01:00.51 | Xinhuan | lol that UI pack has KTM in it |
| 01:01.21 | Xinhuan | ok that ui pack has KTM **and** Omen in it |
| 01:01.25 | Xuerian | Tuller: I don't really mind compilations either. In fact, i was on Mazzle's server originally and had seen him around... Was fine with him and his addon pack. Pulling a public stunt like this though, really wants me to return the favor in kind |
| 01:01.25 | cladhaire | function OnUpdate(self, elapsed) if select(2, UnitClass()) == "HUNTER" then lol() end end |
| 01:01.25 | Tekkub | Tuller, you, and the (l)users |
| 01:01.28 | Xuerian | Xinhuan: bahaha |
| 01:01.50 | Xuerian | really makes me want to*, that is |
| 01:01.55 | Xuerian | Greh afk.. |
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| 01:03.35 | Pkekyo| | did MSN just die on a large scale? |
| 01:04.49 | Zyndrome | huh? oooh it did :< |
| 01:05.02 | Pkekyo| | poopshoots |
| 01:05.08 | Zyndrome | zaps his Messenger ... "clear! *kzap*" |
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| 01:06.51 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: That's a bug in wow, actually. The count updates at different times. Sometimes before the event, sometimes after. Kergoth tried to deal with it too |
| 01:07.05 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r79086 10AiiDLink/ (ADLHelpFrame.xml AiiDLink.lua AiiDLink.toc): |
| 01:07.05 | CIA-45 | AiiDLink: |
| 01:07.05 | CIA-45 | - Added help dialog for finding itemids |
| 01:07.05 | CIA-45 | - Minor code cleanup |
| 01:08.51 | CIA-45 | 03trasher * r79087 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.fr.lua: |
| 01:08.51 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 01:08.51 | CIA-45 | - frFR update |
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| 01:10.11 | Pkekyo| | geif moar msn :< |
| 01:11.05 | Orphis | Yeah, no MSN for me too |
| 01:11.34 | Ellipsis | oh, so it's not just me? |
| 01:11.41 | Pkekyo| | nah |
| 01:11.44 | Pkekyo| | entire thing died |
| 01:11.51 | Ellipsis | msfail |
| 01:12.00 | ag` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_vs._Predator |
| 01:12.08 | ag` | "I did it for the lulz" |
| 01:12.11 | Pkekyo| | maybe those 'zomg forward dis mial or else msn leik dies' chainmails actually came through at last :p |
| 01:12.25 | Orphis | Survival of the fittest... IRC has survived this long fight |
| 01:13.03 | Pkekyo| | Orphis: if only everyone and their dog would use IRC :p |
| 01:13.48 | Zyndrome | oh god almost shat myself ... hate the sound my phone suddenly makes when the batterylevel is low |
| 01:14.03 | Zyndrome | "PLONG!" , "OH JESUS GOD ... oh my phone" |
| 01:14.27 | Pkekyo| | :P |
| 01:14.31 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r79088 10Decursive/ (6 files): |
| 01:14.31 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 01:14.31 | CIA-45 | - fix: Error: table index is nil Dcr_Events.lua Line: 153 |
| 01:14.31 | CIA-45 | - temp hack to identify the cause of the error "Usage: UnitGUID("unit") line 531 Dcr_Raid.lua" |
| 01:14.31 | CIA-45 | A message telling you to send me an email when one of the possible causes arises will be displayed but Decursive will continue to function properly. |
| 01:14.33 | CIA-45 | - Starting to update WhatsNew.txt and QuoiDeNeuf.txt |
| 01:15.11 | Dashkal | This was over a lua file full of data points?!? |
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| 01:17.38 | Dashkal | silly me, I thought this was a whole ganked addon, not one data file. Nuke file, move on. |
| 01:17.59 | Xinhuan | that data took months to gather though, supposedly |
| 01:18.20 | Dashkal | Oh no argument the file had to go. Copyrighted material is copyrighted material |
| 01:19.34 | Dashkal | Wouldn't matter if he had farted out the numbers in an hour. Just that all of this was over a single file. Not core logic, data, something trivially replaced from a technical perspective |
| 01:19.39 | VonhintenHOME` | It's not up to the site the determine whether infringement occurred |
| 01:19.48 | VonhintenHOME` | the=to |
| 01:19.50 | Dashkal | VonhintenHOME`: it is once the copyrightholder makes his clame |
| 01:20.03 | VonhintenHOME` | Any asshole can claim something |
| 01:20.04 | Dashkal | wow I fail at typing |
| 01:20.21 | Dashkal | Ok, lemme revise |
| 01:20.40 | VonhintenHOME` | He could have certainly sent a cease and desist, and the site could then act in good faith |
| 01:20.57 | Dashkal | Kaelten wasn't under immediate legal obligation to remove anything simply because of the claim. It is, however, in the best interests of the site owner to investigate to keep it from coming to litigation |
| 01:21.15 | Dashkal | Which he did once the moving shit was done |
| 01:22.12 | Dashkal | just shakes his head |
| 01:22.17 | Xuerian | Dashkal: Yeah, that's what I thought too. I agree with Mazzle being upset about the points being ripped off without credit, I remember the data collection for that. I disagree with how pissed he got... But the base reason is sound |
| 01:22.21 | Dashkal | Soooo sticking to BSD 2 clause |
| 01:23.28 | Dashkal | Annoying thing is Mazzle could still demand that the svn revision history be doctored to remove his copyrighted material. (Assuming for the moment that he is the legitimate copyright holder of that lua file) |
| 01:23.50 | Aiiane | Annoying thing is that while Mazzle is right, he's still being a douche about it |
| 01:23.56 | Xuerian | Exactly |
| 01:24.02 | Dashkal | As cog put it, totally irelevant. Sad as that is |
| 01:24.02 | Aiiane | And sadly copyright law gives people the right to be douches |
| 01:24.13 | Xuerian | Exactly -_- |
| 01:24.40 | Dashkal | seriously considers requiring copyright reassignment on contributions. |
| 01:24.49 | Aiiane | heh |
| 01:25.05 | Dashkal | Funny thing is the only mod I have released is joint copyright. |
| 01:25.05 | kenlyric | to whom? |
| 01:25.14 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r79089 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (18 files): AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: Update locales |
| 01:25.34 | Dashkal | kenlyric: I was mostly kidding there, but the suggestion was that I would require a copyright reassignment from anybody contributing code to one of my addons |
| 01:25.53 | Tuller | my theory is screw all of that, you can legally sell bongos as long as you don't say I support it :P |
| 01:25.53 | Xuerian | Clad's later point is interesting that it's now a moot point, but the article was written "now" |
| 01:26.13 | Dashkal | Practically speaking I'm going to be leaving the licence of a released addon the hell alone and any contribution would be covered under that same license. |
| 01:26.47 | Dashkal | Tuller: BSD 2 clause more or less ends up that way. Since nobody can legally make you support a damn thing :p |
| 01:27.20 | Dashkal | Xuerian: It's not entirely moot for the reason I aluded to out above (It's still in the revision history and thus publically accessable) |
| 01:28.03 | Xuerian | Dashkal: True... Legally. For what it's worth, I hope this article and thread is as far as this goes. Perhaps a public apology from benumed then back to business |
| 01:28.08 | Tuller | actually if I wrote a license for all of my stuff going forward it would be "don't sell it, and don't name it in a way that reuses the original name of the addon" |
| 01:28.10 | Dashkal | The only reason I'm copyrighting the damn things at all is so nobody can later say _they_ wrote it and that I'm infringing on _their_ copyright |
| 01:28.36 | Dashkal | Xuerian: agreed |
| 01:28.44 | Dashkal | Copyright is a royal fucking pain in the ass |
| 01:28.58 | Dashkal | But it's here to stay weather we ignore it or not. Best to be aware of it at least |
| 01:29.34 | Xuerian | Yeah. |
| 01:29.44 | Dashkal | anywho, much fun as legalities are. Date tonight is far more important to me :D |
| 01:30.00 | Tuller | lies :P |
| 01:30.04 | Dashkal | cackles |
| 01:30.17 | Tuller | sellfish is actually gpl, since I'm using some ck + itemprice code in there |
| 01:30.30 | Dashkal | shudders at the GPL |
| 01:30.45 | Dashkal | Code does not want to be free. Code doesn't want a damn thing. Code is ones and zeros. |
| 01:31.04 | Tuller | yeah, not too big of a fan of gpl for the most part |
| 01:31.13 | Tuller | but I can see why people like it |
| 01:31.19 | Cryect | hmmm so whats this gooing on about mazzle? |
| 01:31.23 | Dashkal | But I try damn hard to stay compatable with it just in case someone wants to use my stuff in a GPL addon |
| 01:31.34 | Dashkal | Cryect: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14385.0 |
| 01:31.36 | Dashkal | later all |
| 01:31.38 | Dark_Elf | be hard to copyright blizzard code, but i agree, addons that get code lifted, should at least give kudos to the person that the code came from |
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| 01:33.05 | Tuller | cooldown count is really the only time I can bitch |
| 01:33.33 | Tuller | since a good portion was copy pasted, but they added in ace options so yeah :P |
| 01:33.42 | Pkekyo| | MSN back up atlast :) |
| 01:33.44 | VonhintenHOME` | these multibox shaman are seriously ruining my enjoyment in this game |
| 01:33.45 | Arrowmaster | that was done by hshh |
| 01:33.50 | Arrowmaster | bitch all you want please |
| 01:33.54 | Arrowmaster | i want to see him GONE |
| 01:34.05 | Ellipsis | ~comfort Arrowmaster |
| 01:34.05 | purl | There, there, Arrowmaster. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 01:34.06 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/338211943_QTLt5-L.jpg <- picture of the day |
| 01:34.19 | Ellipsis | ooh, pretty |
| 01:34.20 | Dark_Elf | wishes there was a bongos to dominos importer lol |
| 01:34.50 | Cryect | Heh, only time I've been bothered is for this which happens to an exact copy of my addon of the exact name except with my name replaced this other guy http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/7085/ |
| 01:34.56 | Tuller | Dark_Elf: 3 or 2? |
| 01:35.07 | thul | thanks Ellipsis :-) |
| 01:35.08 | Tuller | Dark_Elf: if 3, then there are some sets in 3 that cannot be represented in 2/dominos |
| 01:35.16 | Tuller | Dark_Elf: if 2, then write one because I'm lazy :P |
| 01:35.27 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: is that an exact copy of one of your addons? |
| 01:35.38 | Dark_Elf | yeah i was refering to 3, cause im lazy and didnt want to rework the attack buttons lol |
| 01:35.56 | Cryect | CLose to it apparently they changed it to use parserlib instead of I think I was using DamageMeters parsing at the time |
| 01:36.05 | Tuller | there are layouts in 2 that cannot be represented in 3, as well |
| 01:36.20 | Cryect | I didn't worry too much about it though |
| 01:36.28 | Arrowmaster | Cryect: report it, its so old its not like anybody will notice or care |
| 01:36.44 | Arrowmaster | and because curse needs cleaning |
| 01:37.00 | Cryect | pfft I'm too lazy :-p |
| 01:37.14 | Arrowmaster | you cant click report? |
| 01:37.20 | Tuller | I kindof want all addon sites to be purged on wrath |
| 01:37.21 | Arrowmaster | i would but i dont have the info |
| 01:37.35 | Tuller | wowi has a decent system for it though |
| 01:37.49 | Cryect | recalls me remember my login info at the moment for Curse |
| 01:39.39 | Tuller | speaking of copyrights... |
| 01:39.40 | Tuller | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9675-BlizzardoRemixar.html |
| 01:39.53 | Cryect | haha wth |
| 01:41.58 | Ellipsis | heehee, he has other compilations posted too |
| 01:42.19 | thul | licks Ellipsis |
| 01:42.30 | Ellipsis | one of them contains "DBM(also knowned as Deadly Boss Mod)" and "MiniChat(a minimizer that minimizes ur chat)" |
| 01:42.38 | Ellipsis | a minimizer that minimizes?! BRILLIANT |
| 01:43.30 | Dark_Elf | hmm thats a pretty clean ui |
| 01:43.36 | Ellipsis | "Enjoy the UI but remember this ui is Copyrighted! ©®™" |
| 01:44.02 | Tuller | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9633-CaptainAmericaMod.html |
| 01:44.32 | Dark_Elf | thats cool |
| 01:44.32 | Tuller | I really want to fix up the one lol addon I ever made |
| 01:44.46 | Tuller | but its disqualified in that it would spam :P |
| 01:45.16 | Tuller | basically it was a think I made pre TBC that would convert the amount I crit for into a historical event and then /say the name of the event |
| 01:45.24 | Dark_Elf | shame blizzard dont let us make items for the game that shield would be prettier lol |
| 01:45.40 | Tuller | so say, crit a year that jimmy carter was president, and get 'Nuclear Peanut Farmer'd!' |
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| 01:47.15 | Tuller | only way I could get it working now would be to switch to a bc timeline |
| 01:50.33 | erikh | that's an interesting way of phrasing the BSD advertising clause |
| 01:50.44 | erikh | This UI is CopyRighted! You Want to Upload something with my stuff TELL it in your UI! |
| 01:51.09 | erikh | personally, i'm fond of the WTFPL |
| 01:51.45 | erikh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTFPL |
| 01:52.53 | erikh | it's FSF approved :) |
| 01:53.50 | ckknight | erikh: I prefer either MIT or all rights reserved |
| 01:56.54 | erikh | yeah, I go BSD non-advertising myself. |
| 01:57.00 | erikh | (basically the same thing) |
| 01:57.16 | erikh | .. and really not that far from the WTFPL |
| 02:00.35 | syeren | WTB Golden Spellthread :( |
| 02:00.38 | syeren | Goddamnit. |
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| 02:04.01 | DARKGuy | hey, anybody knows how to remove that weird time indicator in the minimap? (I presume it's simpleminimap :/ ) |
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| 02:04.46 | Cryect | Hmmm pretty sure thats the defualt UI now |
| 02:04.47 | Dark_Elf | u sure its not the 2.3.4 blizzard time? |
| 02:05.05 | DARKGuy | no idea if it is or it isn't :/ |
| 02:05.12 | DARKGuy | but it's a small square that shows server time and local time |
| 02:05.17 | vithos | it is |
| 02:05.20 | DARKGuy | in the bottom-middle of the minimap |
| 02:05.26 | vithos | blizzard |
| 02:05.29 | Cryect | yep thats in the normal UI |
| 02:05.29 | DARKGuy | oh |
| 02:05.39 | DARKGuy | so it's possible to disable it no? |
| 02:05.57 | DARKGuy | oh show clock |
| 02:05.58 | DARKGuy | DUH |
| 02:05.59 | vithos | blizzard options |
| 02:06.01 | DARKGuy | smacks himself |
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| 02:07.13 | Camci | any idea why WowAceUpdater2 stopped working? :/ |
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| 02:11.35 | syeren | Why did Blizzard release a patch where female Alliance characters can't run up steps. |
| 02:11.37 | syeren | So retarded. |
| 02:12.59 | vithos | they always do shit like that |
| 02:15.12 | vithos | and god knows how long we'll have to wait for the patch |
| 02:16.13 | Xuerian | syeren: ? Why? WHY? Well let's see.. Their weapons are bigger than they are? |
| 02:16.18 | Xuerian | Gotta pay somewhere :p |
| 02:16.26 | syeren | I'm a Female Dwarf :p |
| 02:16.32 | Xuerian | lol |
| 02:16.37 | syeren | I'm bigger than my Weapon, not some retarded Female Human. |
| 02:16.51 | Ellipsis | I have a big staff. |
| 02:16.54 | syeren | I can't get on top of the gravestone in Ruins anymore, good game design. |
| 02:17.33 | Ellipsis | l2mountup? :P |
| 02:18.18 | syeren | Yes, in arena :p |
| 02:18.26 | vithos | can't go up steps mounted either |
| 02:18.42 | Ellipsis | you can with a flying mount! |
| 02:20.07 | Dark_Elf | hopes blizzard puts mountain climbing gear in a future patch lol shots a grappling hook up the cliff hehe |
| 02:30.04 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 02:30.32 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: soo |
| 02:30.54 | NivFreak | no loot showed up in my loot window last night (I was master looter all night) |
| 02:31.02 | Zhinjio | 6.51 or 6.53? |
| 02:31.06 | NivFreak | latest in acesvn |
| 02:31.13 | NivFreak | I can check in a bit |
| 02:31.19 | Zhinjio | 6.51 had a bug that was preventing things from showing up. |
| 02:31.27 | NivFreak | were both yesterday? |
| 02:31.28 | Zhinjio | stupid argument order on a tinsert |
| 02:31.30 | Zhinjio | 6.53 fixed it |
| 02:31.32 | NivFreak | yea, that sounds right |
| 02:31.40 | NivFreak | so, did you give me alt-click functionality? |
| 02:31.41 | NivFreak | :) |
| 02:31.43 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 02:31.49 | NivFreak | was that also broken in 6.51? |
| 02:31.53 | Zhinjio | no |
| 02:31.56 | Zhinjio | not that I'm aware of |
| 02:32.00 | Zhinjio | well... so |
| 02:32.01 | NivFreak | well, I never got it to work |
| 02:32.02 | NivFreak | :P |
| 02:32.16 | Zhinjio | yes, that would also be broken, since it still sends the same LOOTI event |
| 02:32.17 | Zhinjio | so yes |
| 02:32.19 | NivFreak | k |
| 02:32.23 | NivFreak | I'll try again sunday |
| 02:32.25 | Zhinjio | no loot inserts would work. |
| 02:32.33 | Zhinjio | I was a little quick on the draw releasing. |
| 02:32.37 | Zhinjio | fixed it immediately though |
| 02:32.50 | NivFreak | interesting |
| 02:32.54 | NivFreak | I updated around 8pm |
| 02:33.01 | Zhinjio | today? |
| 02:33.03 | NivFreak | anyway, I'll check and see if there's an update |
| 02:33.04 | Zhinjio | or yesterday? |
| 02:33.06 | NivFreak | no, last night |
| 02:33.08 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 02:33.23 | Zhinjio | are you pulling from branch of trunk? |
| 02:33.29 | Zhinjio | branch is old at this point, I think |
| 02:33.31 | NivFreak | files.wowace.com |
| 02:33.31 | NivFreak | :P |
| 02:33.33 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 02:33.35 | Zhinjio | yeah, trunk |
| 02:33.38 | Zhinjio | that should be right |
| 02:33.38 | NivFreak | yep |
| 02:33.40 | Zhinjio | *checks* |
| 02:34.29 | ccKep | someone here using deDE client? |
| 02:34.43 | Zhinjio | yeah, 6.53 is on wowace. |
| 02:34.49 | Zhinjio | if its *still* not working, I need to know |
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| 02:43.58 | Zhinjio | Ackis: ping |
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| 03:01.08 | Zhinjio | evenin' Kaelten |
| 03:02.20 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: can you actually check that sometime relatively soon (tonight)? If you're still having loot issues, I need to go test more thoroughly myself and release another hotfix |
| 03:02.25 | Zhinjio | which would make me cry. |
| 03:02.33 | Zhinjio | I just want to put this version to bed and be done with it. |
| 03:05.23 | ccKep | wtb someone with deDE client -.- |
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| 03:11.59 | CIA-45 | 03isler * r79090 10AtlasLoot/Constants/constants.cn.lua: |
| 03:11.59 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 03:12.00 | CIA-45 | - zhCN update |
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| 03:25.29 | CIA-45 | 03elsia * r79091 10Recount/Tracker.lua: |
| 03:25.29 | CIA-45 | Recount: |
| 03:25.29 | CIA-45 | - Proper handling of SPELL_AURA_BROKEN* which restores functionality of the CC Breaker stat. |
| 03:26.30 | kenlyric | i go afk for 3 hours, and still, licenses. |
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| 03:26.38 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster * r79092 10LoggerHead/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 03:26.38 | CIA-45 | LoggerHead: |
| 03:26.38 | CIA-45 | -add options to change profile |
| 03:26.38 | CIA-45 | -fix locales |
| 03:26.38 | CIA-45 | -fix so old savevar data is still used |
| 03:26.39 | CIA-45 | -fix some really screwy whitespacing (space followed by tab for indenting always bad) |
| 03:26.48 | kenlyric | or, scrollback :/ |
| 03:27.41 | Cryect | heh |
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| 03:32.30 | Ellipsis | microsoft needs to stop breaking things |
| 03:32.49 | Aiiane | heh :/ |
| 03:33.07 | Aiiane | thats like saying people need to stop cross-uploading mods that arent theirs |
| 03:34.24 | Ellipsis | 1556 error(s) |
| 03:34.30 | Ellipsis | that's what I get for installing a service pack /facepalm |
| 03:35.02 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r79093 10Acheron/ (Acheron.lua Config.lua Display.lua Locales/Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 03:35.02 | CIA-45 | Acheron: |
| 03:35.02 | CIA-45 | - added config option to enable/disable data collection |
| 03:35.02 | CIA-45 | - added 'Clear All' button to config window to replace chat command |
| 03:35.02 | CIA-45 | - added config option for font size of report entries |
| 03:35.03 | CIA-45 | - removed /ach command, as it overlaps with achievements command in WotLK expansion. Use /acheron for commandline options now. |
| 03:35.08 | CIA-45 | - added current/max health to report entry tooltip data |
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| 03:37.35 | CIA-45 | 03archarodim * r79094 10Decursive/ (DCR_init.lua Dcr_Events.lua): |
| 03:37.35 | CIA-45 | Decursive: |
| 03:37.35 | CIA-45 | - Combat events are not always received in the same order (a missed spell could |
| 03:37.35 | CIA-45 | be receive before a cast success). So now Decursive still listen for 0.1s after |
| 03:37.35 | CIA-45 | receiving SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS to catch SPELL_MISSED and SPELL_DISPEL_FAILED |
| 03:37.35 | CIA-45 | events. |
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| 04:12.53 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r79095 10Cartographer_Stats/ (. Cartographer_Stats.lua embeds.xml): Cartographer_Stats: updated toc and core for litourist 3.0 |
| 04:13.33 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r79096 10Cartographer_Stats/embeds.xml: Cartographer_Stats: fixed embeds |
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| 04:24.51 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79097 10AtlasLoot/Core/AtlasLoot.lua: |
| 04:24.51 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 04:24.51 | CIA-45 | - Alphamap bug fix |
| 04:27.49 | Tekkub | hrm... any reason I shouldn't just use AceEvent3 over my handler since I have CBH embedded in shot for LDB... |
| 04:27.49 | Tekkub | f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) if self[event] then return self[event](self, event, ...) end end) |
| 04:28.00 | Tekkub | it's hard to give up that simple one-liner... |
| 04:30.28 | Arrowmaster | only if you have something against xpcall |
| 04:30.38 | Tekkub | I like XP |
| 04:30.46 | Tekkub | I have something minor against vista |
| 04:30.52 | Tekkub | but nothing as bad as most people |
| 04:51.14 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79098 10AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP/ (BattlegroundPvP.en.lua GeneralPvP.en.lua): |
| 04:51.14 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot_SetsandPvP: |
| 04:51.14 | CIA-45 | - Enforced universal data format |
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| 05:00.39 | CIA-45 | 03daviesh * r79099 10AtlasLoot/ (9 files in 5 dirs): |
| 05:00.39 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 05:00.39 | CIA-45 | - Removed Atlas 1.11 compatibility |
| 05:01.03 | CIA-45 | 03Krevlorn * r79100 10FuBar_HonorFuPlus/ (HonorFuPlusLocale-deDE.lua HonorFuPlusLocale-deFR.lua): FuBar_HonorFuPlus: fixed DE and FR localization |
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| 05:09.08 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79101 10simpleMinimap/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:09.08 | CIA-45 | simpleMinimap: |
| 05:09.08 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU localizations |
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| 05:13.08 | Primer | Anyone use Bongos? Is it possible to have a bar be present only in pvp/arena? |
| 05:14.54 | Zhinjio | I do, and I don't pvp, unfortunately. sorry |
| 05:18.36 | Primer | it seems there's a way |
| 05:21.10 | Primer | it seems that any macro conditional can be used to display the bar |
| 05:21.38 | Primer | Is there any macro conditional for "in combat with a non-npc"? |
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| 05:31.30 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r79102 10HealGraph/ (Graph.lua IncomingDamage.lua): |
| 05:31.30 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 05:31.30 | CIA-45 | - changed health color if value is not yet approved by a UnitHealth-event |
| 05:31.30 | CIA-45 | - set default swing time to 2.0 |
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| 05:38.02 | Primer | So, is there some sort of macro conditional that denotes "in pvp combat"? |
| 05:40.35 | Shefki | No |
| 05:40.39 | ennuilg | No - combat is combat. You could check zone to see if you were in a BG / Arena, but world PvP can't be differentiated from PvE. |
| 05:40.54 | Shefki | There's no macro conditional for a zone either. |
| 05:41.23 | ennuilg | Macro, no... Already thinking outside that box, but you're right. |
| 05:41.57 | Shefki | If he wants to cast a spell or use an item conditionally based on PVP combat, there is no way to do that within the limits of what we're allowed to do. |
| 05:42.21 | Shefki | I won't say there's no way to do it becuase there's probably flaws in the security design of the game. But that's a hack and not what he's probably looking for. |
| 05:42.47 | Shefki | If he wants to do something like equip an item that's certainly possible. |
| 05:46.40 | ennuilg | Again though - only in macros... An addon could check the affiliation flags of "target" and go from there (but not autocast, etc., obviously). |
| 05:47.12 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r79103 10HealGraph/Graph.lua: |
| 05:47.12 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 05:47.12 | CIA-45 | - fixed bug in line list |
| 05:50.57 | Zyndrome | http://lh5.ggpht.com/eddie.con.carne/SIkCmD0HesI/AAAAAAAABDQ/Kffl03exXxM/vistamag.jpg |
| 05:50.58 | Zyndrome | hah |
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| 05:51.10 | Zyndrome | a Powerbook with Vista shopped in |
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| 06:10.30 | digmouse | is an attuement quest needed to unlock DK if WLK is live? |
| 06:12.35 | |Pixel| | there is one achievement to complete |
| 06:12.36 | Lukian | no |
| 06:12.56 | Lukian | well yes, get a character to level 55 :p |
| 06:13.22 | |Pixel| | exactly, and this counts as an achievement |
| 06:13.28 | |Pixel| | which will be the thing that'll unlock DK creation |
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| 06:39.42 | Orionshock | morning all |
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| 06:47.34 | digmouse | Lukian: so, only a level 55 character? |
| 06:47.47 | digmouse | dont need any quest if live? |
| 06:47.53 | Xuerian | No |
| 06:47.57 | Xuerian | One char, 55, any realm |
| 06:48.19 | Xuerian | Lets you create 1 55 deathknight per realm. |
| 06:48.31 | digmouse | k |
| 06:48.35 | Xuerian | DKs have a chain of quests they -have- to complete, but that's not what you're asking |
| 06:48.49 | digmouse | I know, to unlock talents |
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| 07:03.44 | digmouse | but i like a little unlock quest better |
| 07:04.08 | Groktar | wants unlock quests on all new spells in wotlk |
| 07:07.38 | Orionshock | any easy way to get how long the GCD is? |
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| 07:20.52 | Codayus | Orionshock: Quartz does it by monitoring a spell in the spellbook that doesn't have a cooldown - like mineral tracking. |
| 07:23.15 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r79105 10Acheron/Display.lua: |
| 07:23.16 | CIA-45 | Acheron: |
| 07:23.16 | CIA-45 | - fix possible bug with creating report title |
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| 07:23.56 | Codayus | Could be a better way to do it, but offhand, I don't know it. |
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| 07:46.44 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r79106 10BuffEnough/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 07:46.44 | CIA-45 | BuffEnough: |
| 07:46.44 | CIA-45 | - change shamans to check explicitly for water shield |
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| 07:49.01 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 07:49.03 | cncfanatics | intresting |
| 07:49.04 | cncfanatics | very intresting |
| 07:49.05 | cncfanatics | http://elitistjerks.com/f32/t26517-instant_health_updates/ |
| 07:49.15 | cncfanatics | I need to go read that code |
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| 07:49.54 | Xinhuan | is that some addon that updates unitframe health from reading the combat log? |
| 07:49.59 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't really recommend it |
| 07:50.08 | cncfanatics | ya it is |
| 07:50.15 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: I'm just wondering how it works |
| 07:50.27 | cncfanatics | I don't use the default unitframes so I don't really care it taints them |
| 07:50.29 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: why would you not recommend it ? |
| 07:51.01 | Xinhuan | because i believe the combatlog isn't 100% accurate |
| 07:51.17 | Xinhuan | there are many spells and effects that CAN change your health |
| 07:51.26 | Xinhuan | but the combat log isn't going to tell you how your health changed |
| 07:51.35 | Xinhuan | example, trinkets like battlemaster |
| 07:51.38 | Xinhuan | last stand |
| 07:51.46 | cncfanatics | its said to take them all into account |
| 07:51.47 | Xinhuan | how prince in kara lowers your hp to singl digits |
| 07:51.50 | cncfanatics | but thats why I'm reading it now |
| 07:52.14 | cncfanatics | the addon registers the UNIT_HEALTH event |
| 07:52.17 | cncfanatics | which should take those into account |
| 07:52.35 | Neya | I lean more towards the mindset of that it doesn't really matter in the end, we humans are simply too slow really. |
| 07:52.48 | Xuerian|Coma | Add slow to slow and you still get slower |
| 07:53.07 | cncfanatics | Neya: humans are slow |
| 07:53.09 | cncfanatics | internet is slow |
| 07:53.13 | cncfanatics | human + internet = slower |
| 07:53.19 | Neya | aye. |
| 07:53.21 | cncfanatics | especialy with 2 goes |
| 07:53.26 | Xinhuan | thing is, if you register for Unit_health, why even bother with the combatlog? ;p |
| 07:53.27 | cncfanatics | remove one of the goes and you get slightly faster |
| 07:53.38 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: improves the speed on direct damage |
| 07:53.45 | cncfanatics | still the same on trinkets & stuff |
| 07:54.06 | Xinhuan | what does the thread say about how much faster it is? |
| 07:54.34 | Xinhuan | do you really believe both events (the CLEU and the Unit_health event) don't fire in the same frame? |
| 07:54.34 | cncfanatics | depends on ur ping afaik |
| 07:55.02 | cncfanatics | they don't |
| 07:55.04 | cncfanatics | I tested that |
| 07:55.19 | cncfanatics | "hey, my heal landed on you but you died anyway" pretty much proves it also |
| 07:55.26 | cncfanatics | and I'm sure you encountered that too :p |
| 07:55.30 | Xinhuan | how does it resolve conflicts and race conditions? |
| 07:55.49 | cncfanatics | no idea |
| 07:55.52 | cncfanatics | thats why I'm reading it |
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| 07:55.58 | cncfanatics | my ping is 60ms so its not worth it for me |
| 07:56.05 | Xinhuan | say CLEU says you lost 5254 hp, but unit_health says you lost 5459 hp |
| 07:56.08 | cncfanatics | health bar updates would go from 120ms to 60ms |
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| 07:57.10 | Xuerian|Coma | Xinhuan: Seems like a good case for a "Try it instead of asking a zillion questions to a person who hasn't used it either" |
| 07:57.20 | cncfanatics | well, I'm reading the code |
| 07:57.24 | cncfanatics | so his questions are valid :p |
| 07:57.25 | nevcairiel | imho InstantHealth has a design flaw |
| 07:57.33 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: what one? |
| 07:57.42 | nevcairiel | it should not force itself onto everything thats using the official API |
| 07:57.49 | cncfanatics | true |
| 07:57.52 | nevcairiel | but rather fire its own callbacks and provide a new API |
| 07:57.56 | cncfanatics | there is also gridinstanthealth |
| 07:57.56 | Xinhuan | the flaw is if unit_health occurs before the cleu |
| 07:57.59 | cncfanatics | which doesn't do that |
| 07:58.07 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: not true |
| 07:58.11 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: that'll most likely never happen :P |
| 07:58.13 | cncfanatics | then the blizz unit_health won't have updater either |
| 07:58.51 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: on race conditions |
| 07:58.55 | cncfanatics | when UNIT_HEALTH triggers |
| 07:59.01 | cncfanatics | it checks for differences with its internal value |
| 07:59.05 | cncfanatics | and if they're different it corrects itself |
| 07:59.20 | Xuerian|Coma | nevcairiel: Sounds like a good project. Hop to. |
| 07:59.35 | nevcairiel | Xuerian|Coma: i dont believe in the usefulness of said addon either, though. |
| 07:59.40 | Xinhuan | i see, so unit_health numbers are "always correct" |
| 07:59.48 | Xuerian|Coma | One would hope... |
| 07:59.56 | cncfanatics | well, tbh |
| 07:59.59 | cncfanatics | the idea is nice |
| 08:00.02 | Xuerian|Coma | nevcairiel: Touche' |
| 08:00.05 | nevcairiel | UNIT_HEALTH is always correct when it fires |
| 08:00.07 | cncfanatics | but its something like the castlag fixing addon pretbc |
| 08:00.11 | nevcairiel | it just fires a bit throttled |
| 08:00.26 | cncfanatics | it really is something blizz should make sure doesn't lag in the first place |
| 08:00.29 | cncfanatics | as its quite important |
| 08:00.59 | cncfanatics | also, addons that listen to UNIT_HEALTH to update their count won't get any benefit out of it will they ? |
| 08:01.05 | cncfanatics | at least it sounds like they won't |
| 08:01.16 | nevcairiel | I think InstantHealth fires UNIT_HEALTH on all frames |
| 08:01.22 | [Ammo] | it does |
| 08:01.31 | nevcairiel | which is why i dont like it |
| 08:01.37 | cncfanatics | I don't like the idea of an addon firing blizz events |
| 08:01.55 | cncfanatics | how does it even do that ? |
| 08:02.14 | cncfanatics | it doesn'tl oop through each frame and call its onevent manualy does it ? |
| 08:02.17 | nevcairiel | There is a API to get all frames registered for one event, iirc |
| 08:02.27 | cncfanatics | well, it has to "trigger" it somehow |
| 08:02.32 | cncfanatics | it can't do that directly |
| 08:02.49 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: As you said, you're reading the code |
| 08:02.53 | cncfanatics | found it |
| 08:02.54 | nevcairiel | it can do frame:GetScript("OnEvent")(frame, "UNIT_HEALTH") |
| 08:02.55 | cncfanatics | it does :s |
| 08:02.56 | cncfanatics | hackish |
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| 08:04.07 | Xuerian|Coma | Hackish, but functional. Perhaps if *cough* someone suggested it provide a api and option to only use said api, it'd not do such hackish things... |
| 08:04.19 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 08:04.52 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 08:05.00 | cncfanatics | let me theorize how much pings this makes you gain |
| 08:05.05 | cncfanatics | just 1 right ? |
| 08:05.15 | cncfanatics | so if ur ping is above 200ms it should be noticable |
| 08:05.37 | Xuerian|Coma | I really want Gello's old smooth statusbars mod to work though, on the subject of hackish things. Pitbull only "chops" and "fade-slides" |
| 08:06.14 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: Pretty much if the old lag cast mod helped, this should, I'd think |
| 08:06.34 | Xuerian|Coma | Though with UNIT_HEALTH being throttled, it'd make the ui more responsive for everyone, laggy or not |
| 08:06.34 | cncfanatics | yea, its the same |
| 08:06.44 | nevcairiel | After some thinking when the mod was released, i couldnt really think of a case where faster display updates would've actually enabled me to save the tank |
| 08:06.56 | Xuerian|Coma | nevcairiel: Just read the EJ thread |
| 08:06.58 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: its those: my heal landed but you died anyway situations |
| 08:07.06 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: it wont fix that |
| 08:07.17 | nevcairiel | just that you see that he'll die earlier 0P |
| 08:07.19 | Neya | that's the reason I see no real point with the addon. |
| 08:07.35 | Xuerian|Coma | I see no real point in your face. |
| 08:07.45 | Neya | allthough, who said all addons have to have a usefull reason to exists. |
| 08:07.54 | nevcairiel | The server calculates the HP on a throttle, even if you change your local HP |
| 08:07.57 | nevcairiel | it still does that! |
| 08:08.01 | Xuerian|Coma | I was going to say that, but the face thing seemed better in my tired state |
| 08:08.16 | Neya | heh |
| 08:08.25 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: |
| 08:08.54 | cncfanatics | "Actually saved a tank with NS last night. Health was negative and I popped it, he didn't die. So far really liking this add-on, it makes everything feel much more responsive." wouldn't that be such a case ? |
| 08:09.06 | Xuerian|Coma | nevcairiel: That's kindof interesting. If events that depend on hp being at a certain level are only updated every [throttlerate], then theoretically you could take critical damage and recieve a heal after it, but still live |
| 08:09.16 | Xuerian|Coma | (server side) |
| 08:09.22 | nevcairiel | Xuerian|Coma: yes, you can |
| 08:09.29 | nevcairiel | if you time it good enough |
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| 08:09.53 | Xuerian|Coma | So while someone without the addon relying on UNIT_HEALTH) would miss this by relying on the default updates, guaranteed, someone waiting for it to happen would see it and catch it with this |
| 08:10.12 | Xuerian|Coma | (possibly, see EJ quote) |
| 08:10.39 | Xuerian|Coma | So this is just helping you time it "Good enough" |
| 08:10.41 | Aiiane | another thing is |
| 08:10.47 | Aiiane | since blizz throttles it |
| 08:10.56 | Aiiane | it can be hard to gauge how hard the tank's being it |
| 08:10.58 | Aiiane | *hit |
| 08:11.09 | Aiiane | if his health goes down and back up before the next event tick |
| 08:11.21 | Xuerian|Coma | Right, you just see their health floating at 80%, but heals are landing and damage is landing constantly |
| 08:11.25 | Aiiane | that's a big part of why i run the instanthealth update |
| 08:11.33 | Aiiane | to actually be able to see the changes going on |
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| 08:11.50 | Xuerian|Coma | (That's actually a good use-case illustration) |
| 08:11.52 | nevcairiel | Xuerian|Coma: its more luck then reaction time to actually manage to get a heal directly in |
| 08:12.10 | Xuerian|Coma | nevcairiel: I'll agree to that. I'm switching to Aiiane's example as my battle standard now, thx. |
| 08:12.25 | cncfanatics | well, imo blizz should just fix their code |
| 08:12.27 | Xuerian|Coma | May fall asleep on the field of battle with it, but hey. |
| 08:12.27 | cncfanatics | to remove that lag |
| 08:12.52 | cncfanatics | if an addon can do it, they can change their stuff to do it |
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| 08:13.12 | nevcairiel | addons dont remove the lag |
| 08:13.17 | cncfanatics | it removes one ping go |
| 08:13.23 | nevcairiel | No it doesnt |
| 08:13.26 | Xuerian|Coma | Addons compensate for the delay |
| 08:13.43 | Xuerian|Coma | it doesn't really have that much to do with latency at all |
| 08:13.50 | cncfanatics | hmmm, yea, ur right |
| 08:13.52 | nevcairiel | No addon can change the network behaviour or anything |
| 08:13.53 | Xuerian|Coma | (so my former "if the lag casting mod.." quote is bad) |
| 08:13.57 | cncfanatics | gets around the throttle basicly |
| 08:14.17 | cncfanatics | why doesn't blizz give us an option to get rid of the throttle ? :( |
| 08:14.19 | Aiiane | addons remove the "lag time" (not network lag) from when a hit/heal occurs to when the next regular health update is |
| 08:14.28 | cncfanatics | yea Aiiane ur right |
| 08:14.34 | cncfanatics | I was confusing that with network lag :) |
| 08:15.01 | nevcairiel | I still don't really see the throttle ever being any issue at all |
| 08:15.09 | nevcairiel | the HP is calculated on the server |
| 08:15.14 | nevcairiel | and of course they throttle it |
| 08:15.15 | Xuerian|Coma | 00:001 [Boss] hits [Tank] for 3k. 00:002 [Healer] heals [Tank] for 3k. 00:003 UNIT_HEALTH event fires, [Tank]'s hp hasn't changed |
| 08:15.33 | nevcairiel | or they would have excess amounts of network traffic |
| 08:15.40 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: do it clientside then ? |
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| 08:15.47 | cncfanatics | like, well, that addon does |
| 08:15.59 | nevcairiel | (10:14:59) (@nevcairiel) I still don't really see the throttle ever being any issue at all |
| 08:16.00 | nevcairiel | still stands |
| 08:16.26 | Xuerian|Coma | nevcairiel: No it doesn't |
| 08:16.32 | Xuerian|Coma | Please see Aiiane's use-case |
| 08:16.43 | Xuerian|Coma | Having healed I can agree with that easily |
| 08:17.16 | nevcairiel | Actually, even if the bar updates on every event, it'll do it so fast, that you wont be able to see it realy. |
| 08:17.27 | Aiiane | Not true. |
| 08:17.35 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: its *very* noticable |
| 08:17.37 | cncfanatics | try it in AV |
| 08:17.40 | Aiiane | Blizz updates health about 3 times a second |
| 08:17.44 | Xuerian|Coma | nevcairiel: Since the human eye sees at about what, 22~ fps?, and 1/10 of a second is 10fps, well... |
| 08:17.50 | Aiiane | The human eye can perceive changes at up to around 30 times a second |
| 08:18.12 | Xuerian|Coma | Try watching a movie at 3fps |
| 08:18.13 | Aiiane | I'll take an order of magnitude improvement any day |
| 08:18.14 | Xuerian|Coma | then at 30 |
| 08:18.21 | Xuerian|Coma | Hell, playing the game |
| 08:18.23 | Xuerian|Coma | Play it at 3fps |
| 08:18.38 | Aiiane | Oh hey, there's an idea for a ROFL addon |
| 08:18.47 | Aiiane | find a way to produce measured interface lag |
| 08:18.51 | Xuerian|Coma | It's not only visually different it's functionally different, you miss small details |
| 08:18.54 | Aiiane | so you can set your FPS to anything lower that you want to |
| 08:18.58 | Xuerian|Coma | lol |
| 08:19.25 | Xuerian|Coma | (Ironically... This is likely to give your FPS a big hit) |
| 08:19.25 | Aiiane | want to try the game at 1 fps? Set the throttle and get ready for some precise addon-produced spinlocking |
| 08:19.33 | Xuerian|Coma | lol. |
| 08:20.42 | cncfanatics | Aiiane: should be possible |
| 08:20.46 | cncfanatics | just loop exactly long enough |
| 08:20.48 | nevcairiel | I've never had issues to judge how many dmg my tank takes, so *shrug |
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| 08:20.58 | cncfanatics | well, thats not the problem here nev |
| 08:21.05 | cncfanatics | its health bars updater right before the tank takes damage |
| 08:21.09 | cncfanatics | making you slightly slower |
| 08:21.29 | nevcairiel | meh, you dont heal reactively anyway |
| 08:21.44 | Aiiane | but you do cancel-heal reactively if possible |
| 08:21.55 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: NS + HT ? :p |
| 08:22.13 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: thats a corner case, and most of the time has to wait until GCD is over anyway |
| 08:22.22 | nevcairiel | because i'm on GCD constantly |
| 08:22.25 | cncfanatics | Aiiane: we're booth druids, so we don't really cancel much heals |
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| 08:22.36 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: true, but still worth it if it can save a tank once a year imo |
| 08:22.55 | Aiiane | cncfanatics: maybe consider beyond just a druid's PoV then :P I'm a priest |
| 08:23.05 | cncfanatics | yea ofc |
| 08:23.08 | nevcairiel | I consider usefulness of addons for myself |
| 08:23.11 | cncfanatics | its the least useful for druids out of all healers |
| 08:23.13 | nevcairiel | not for some itchy priests |
| 08:23.13 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 08:23.18 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: Actually that is the issue Aiiane and I were arguing |
| 08:23.42 | Xuerian|Coma | (even though I am a druid...) |
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| 08:24.07 | cncfanatics | Xuerian|Coma: welcome to the win club |
| 08:24.26 | Aiiane | Hi, my name is Serendipity :P |
| 08:24.34 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: Hi, I'm a feral druid with a dress. |
| 08:24.45 | cncfanatics | Hi, I'm a recently rerolled tree |
| 08:24.50 | cncfanatics | get less then one day played at 70 :D |
| 08:24.57 | Xuerian|Coma | lol. |
| 08:25.12 | Aiiane | but basically |
| 08:25.22 | Aiiane | considering the regular ~0.3sec update rate on UNIT_HEALTH |
| 08:25.24 | nevcairiel | I'm a Tree-Druid since i started the game on release day, hi you! |
| 08:25.30 | Aiiane | if a tank gets hit right after an update |
| 08:25.36 | Xuerian|Coma | Seriously though I can see myself using this addon if it followed nevcairiel's idea and used a api |
| 08:25.37 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: there was no such thing on release |
| 08:25.41 | Aiiane | that's about a ~0.25sec head start you have |
| 08:25.46 | Xuerian|Coma | I don't want to deal with the side effects right now, though |
| 08:25.48 | cncfanatics | Xuerian|Coma: I'm thinking of recoding it to do that |
| 08:26.44 | Xuerian|Coma | Aiiane is right, too. The human nervous system has a reaction baseline time, but I believe it's slower than 333 ms. |
| 08:26.53 | Neya | nevcariel is another that player innervatebot! ;) |
| 08:27.02 | Neya | played* |
| 08:27.07 | Aiiane | baseline reaction time doesn't even matter |
| 08:27.17 | Aiiane | because your baseline reaction starts when you get the stimulus |
| 08:27.23 | cncfanatics | Typical human Reaction Time is approximately 150 to 300 milliseconds according to google |
| 08:27.30 | Aiiane | and you're getting the stimulus a good 0.25sec earlier no matter what |
| 08:27.32 | cncfanatics | probably a little faster when stressed |
| 08:27.59 | Aiiane | so w/addon, you're looking at 150-300ms |
| 08:28.08 | Aiiane | w/o addon, 250 + 150-300ms |
| 08:28.26 | Xuerian|Coma | This is true 0_o |
| 08:28.27 | cncfanatics | add in your ping to both equations |
| 08:28.31 | Aiiane | of course |
| 08:28.41 | cncfanatics | it adds up -.- |
| 08:28.43 | Aiiane | but the end result is always going to be a difference of 250ms possibly |
| 08:28.53 | Xuerian|Coma | Right, Latency is irrelevant for this |
| 08:28.59 | Aiiane | because it's all additive |
| 08:29.04 | cncfanatics | hmmm, what would be the best way to make this addon decent ? |
| 08:29.11 | Xuerian|Coma | Though I sympathize; wireless braoadband = laaag |
| 08:29.15 | cncfanatics | probably an API to register a frame to get extra UNIT_HEALTH events ? |
| 08:29.27 | cncfanatics | or just have an api to register functions to be called |
| 08:29.28 | Aiiane | probably yes |
| 08:29.28 | cncfanatics | even cleaner |
| 08:29.34 | cncfanatics | which one of the two Aiiane ? |
| 08:29.50 | Aiiane | um.. i'd say the former; easier to integrate into existing code |
| 08:29.51 | cncfanatics | I rather have the later |
| 08:29.55 | cncfanatics | not true |
| 08:30.02 | cncfanatics | means u'd still have to override Unit_health |
| 08:30.08 | cncfanatics | if you don't code will need changes anyway |
| 08:30.16 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: QuickieHealth:RegisterFrame(frame) |
| 08:30.22 | Xuerian|Coma | er... |
| 08:30.25 | Aiiane | i meant existing code on the addons subscribing |
| 08:30.27 | Xuerian|Coma | how would that handle secure frames. |
| 08:30.30 | Xuerian|Coma | shrugs |
| 08:30.31 | Xuerian|Coma | too tired |
| 08:30.40 | cncfanatics | dosn't really matter Xuerian|Coma |
| 08:30.47 | nevcairiel | Just use soem callback system |
| 08:31.06 | nevcairiel | you can easily just hook your existing event handler into the callback of your addon |
| 08:31.08 | nevcairiel | and voila |
| 08:31.10 | Xuerian|Coma | Ask a unitframe author |
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| 08:31.25 | Aiiane | where's ckknight when you need him :P |
| 08:31.31 | cncfanatics | 99% sure it doesn't |
| 08:31.39 | Xuerian|Coma | his answer would be counter to all others, aiiane |
| 08:31.43 | Xuerian|Coma | or it wouldn't be ck |
| 08:31.43 | Aiiane | haha |
| 08:31.48 | Aiiane | well then |
| 08:31.49 | cncfanatics | Xuerian|Coma: if it had to be secure |
| 08:31.52 | Aiiane | that's simple enough |
| 08:31.53 | cncfanatics | then Instanthealth wouldn't work |
| 08:31.56 | Mytos | how difficult would it be to make it so that we can disable gear sets without deleting them in closetgnome? |
| 08:32.01 | Aiiane | return !ckAnswer; |
| 08:32.05 | cncfanatics | as it basicly loops through all frames and forcibly triggers UNIT_HEALTH |
| 08:32.20 | nevcairiel | Mytos: hm, whats the point of disabling? more room in the dropdown? |
| 08:32.31 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: Health is irrelevant to security technically, I just don't know how frame headers and all that shit work. Actionbuttons and unitframes are two places I"m not going anytime soon |
| 08:33.01 | Mytos | i dont always need my feral or resist sets |
| 08:33.19 | cncfanatics | Xuerian|Coma: if it works anything like actionbuttons it shouldn't matter |
| 08:33.34 | cncfanatics | you can mess with childs of a secure frame np |
| 08:33.38 | cncfanatics | just not with their parents |
| 08:33.44 | charon | Mytos: disable how? you can already toggle whether the bank plugin should stash them or keep them in the bags |
| 08:34.01 | Mytos | just so that they dont show up in the hover window |
| 08:34.31 | cncfanatics | also |
| 08:34.31 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: Still, I'd ask a uf (ag`, ck, haste, insert insignificant peon I'm forgetting here) to see what'd make most sennse. |
| 08:34.38 | cncfanatics | that author should *really* pcall his triggers |
| 08:34.44 | cncfanatics | so that an error in one addon doesn't block all other updates |
| 08:34.53 | cncfanatics | because that renders his addon damn useless |
| 08:35.11 | Xuerian|Coma | mytos: honestly why? cg is a minimalistic addon and you're asking for a fluff feature |
| 08:35.27 | Xuerian|Coma | Not saying it's not usefull, you're just throwing a snowflake at a bonfire |
| 08:35.41 | charon | ah well, i can see where he's coming from |
| 08:35.43 | Xuerian|Coma | And I'm going to actually go to bed now, before I get much more snarky |
| 08:35.50 | Mytos | im not asking for it to be integrated, im asking how much would it take to do it in an extra plugin if its even possible |
| 08:35.59 | Xuerian|Coma | oh, that's entirely within the mantra |
| 08:36.00 | Xuerian|Coma | go for it |
| 08:36.01 | Xuerian|Coma | XD |
| 08:36.06 | Xuerian|Coma | passes out. |
| 08:36.11 | cncfanatics | Mytos: it shouldn't be too hard, but you'd have to find someone wanting to do it or do it yourself |
| 08:36.12 | charon | among other things, i have a set named "z keep" that is just there to prevent the stashing mechanisms from putting the karabor thingy in the bank |
| 08:36.31 | nevcairiel | i dont even use the stashing thing |
| 08:36.44 | nevcairiel | it always destroys my ordering in the bank |
| 08:36.59 | Aiiane | Hurray for baggins and not caring about ordering of bags :D |
| 08:37.10 | Mytos | yeah, i dont use the stashing either |
| 08:37.21 | charon | i couldn't live without it :( some raiding nights i have to go to the bank twice to swap gear |
| 08:37.24 | Xuerian|Coma | Aiiane+1 |
| 08:37.31 | Xuerian|Coma | argh go to bed, xuerian... bed... |
| 08:37.39 | nevcairiel | I prefer sorting my bank/inventory myself, rather then some weird categories doing it |
| 08:37.44 | Aiiane | knocks Xuerian|Coma out with a 2x4 |
| 08:37.52 | nevcairiel | then some times that dont really fit.. |
| 08:38.05 | Aiiane | nevcairiel: I prefer to hand-tune my own categories to achieve the same result with less work in the long-term :P |
| 08:38.19 | nevcairiel | its not really much work |
| 08:38.30 | nevcairiel | for me anyway |
| 08:39.21 | Aiiane | But you just mentioned how it means you can't use things like item set stasher addons :) |
| 08:39.28 | Zhinjio | I do love Baggins, but getting it to work "nicely" is beyond the normal user's capabilities. |
| 08:39.53 | Zhinjio | which is fine with me... but I can't go recommending it to the general populace. They get Bagnon or Onebag. |
| 08:39.55 | nevcairiel | Aiiane: never missed it, really. i dont swap sets that often |
| 08:40.00 | Aiiane | well.. depending on how nicely they want it to work. I agree that its config interface isnt stellar |
| 08:40.27 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 08:40.35 | nevcairiel | also, combuctor is just win |
| 08:40.45 | Zhinjio | yeah, I need to look at that again. |
| 08:40.51 | Zhinjio | can you move the damn frame yet? |
| 08:40.57 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 08:40.58 | Aiiane | I saw that, it looked okay. |
| 08:41.03 | Aiiane | But not quite to my tastes. |
| 08:41.08 | Zhinjio | well, last I looked at it, you couldn't. |
| 08:42.04 | cncfanatics | I don't mind non friendly config interfaces tbh |
| 08:42.09 | cncfanatics | as long as I can figure out how to get things done |
| 08:42.24 | cncfanatics | and that it behaves consistently ofc |
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| 08:43.26 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d572e0c03 it how i'll prolly make it work |
| 08:43.30 | cncfanatics | seems like the most clean solution |
| 08:44.01 | Zhinjio | I'm happy to take a look at combuctor again. It looked like it had great potential. |
| 08:44.16 | cncfanatics | what does combuctor do, for the record ? |
| 08:44.42 | Zhinjio | another onebag addon |
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| 08:47.58 | Zhinjio | takes a look. |
| 08:48.52 | michosaure | Hi everyone |
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| 08:50.46 | michosaure | Anyone here use Skillet ? |
| 08:50.53 | digmouse | me |
| 08:51.34 | CIA-45 | 03digmouse * r79107 10/branches/CooldownTimers3/: |
| 08:51.34 | CIA-45 | CooldownTimers3: |
| 08:51.34 | CIA-45 | -create folder remotely |
| 08:51.38 | digmouse | any problem? |
| 08:52.04 | michosaure | Yes a little problem |
| 08:52.23 | michosaure | i post a comment in the official thread of skillet |
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| 08:53.10 | michosaure | i have a little bug with the french client |
| 08:53.47 | Zhinjio | combuctor has definitely improved. |
| 08:54.05 | [Ammo] | combuctor is made of awesome sauce |
| 08:54.06 | digmouse | Zhinjio: on wowinterface? |
| 08:54.13 | Zhinjio | I fear that I'm too used to Baggins now though, unless Tuller was going to be adding in, like... the ability make arbitrary categories for the tabs |
| 08:54.28 | Zhinjio | I pulled it from the googlecode site to make sure it was current |
| 08:54.37 | michosaure | when i want to retrieve stuff from bank to bags with skillet, it say that I have not enough space in my bags :/ |
| 08:54.44 | Zhinjio | I like the ability to just hide a bunch of stuff ... like minipets, etc |
| 08:54.55 | profalbert | I like the layout of baggins way better (without the tabs) |
| 08:55.26 | michosaure | Bagnon is a great addon too |
| 08:55.29 | Zhinjio | I could also see limiting the number to something reasonable, say.... 10 or so. |
| 08:55.44 | Zhinjio | and putting the tabs inside the window, perhaps right under the search bar |
| 08:55.56 | Zhinjio | and selecting/deselecting the tabs would make parts of the inventory disappear |
| 08:56.02 | Zhinjio | but now I'm just speculating wildly |
| 08:56.07 | Zhinjio | Tuller doesn't listen to me *grin* |
| 08:56.28 | Zhinjio | but there is no doubt that it has improved vastly from where I last saw it., |
| 08:56.48 | Zhinjio | bank looks great, I love the view limiting by rarity |
| 08:56.51 | Zhinjio | very clean |
| 08:57.13 | Zhinjio | thtas always my biggest problem with the bagmods. |
| 08:57.18 | Zhinjio | everyone writes what THEY want |
| 08:57.32 | Zhinjio | and so I have like... 4 choices, none of which do exactly what I want |
| 08:57.34 | Zhinjio | heh |
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| 08:57.40 | Zhinjio | all of which have nice features |
| 08:57.51 | Xuerian|Coma | eh s crew sleep it's too late now |
| 08:57.54 | Aiiane | needs more modular bag mod! |
| 08:58.24 | Xuerian|Coma | EngBags was the daddy of them all |
| 08:58.41 | Zhinjio | yeah, in some whacky ideal world, I could combine the features i liked from all of them and have the perfect mix |
| 09:02.23 | Zhinjio | question: can an addon look through known recipes without the appropriate skill's window being open? |
| 09:02.47 | Aiiane | I don't *think* so |
| 09:02.54 | Zhinjio | yeah, I don't either. |
| 09:02.59 | Aiiane | that is, every mod I know that deals with tradeskills has needed to open it |
| 09:02.59 | Zhinjio | figured it was worth asking, though |
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| 09:06.45 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
| 09:06.45 | CIA-45 | - update ruRU localizations |
| 09:09.30 | CIA-45 | 03digmouse * r79109 10/branches/CooldownTimers3/ (4 files): |
| 09:09.30 | CIA-45 | CooldownTimers3: |
| 09:09.30 | CIA-45 | -Initial commit on branch |
| 09:10.08 | Zhinjio | what is Dominoes? |
| 09:10.13 | Zhinjio | er, Dominos? |
| 09:10.27 | Zhinjio | ah, nm |
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| 09:10.55 | digmouse | toys |
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| 09:19.43 | Lukian | are boss segments in recount meant to work in 5mans? |
| 09:19.48 | Lukian | because they haven't been for me |
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| 09:23.34 | cncfanatics | Lukian: I'm guessing it counts every level ?? (boss) mob as a boss |
| 09:23.41 | cncfanatics | bosses in 5mans are usualy lvl 71-72 |
| 09:23.44 | cncfanatics | so it wouldn't detect them |
| 09:23.49 | cncfanatics | thats a guess though |
| 09:24.20 | Lukian | that's my assumption, but it's already out of hte 'lightweight' realm, so why doesn't it use a library or such to detect 5man bosses? :) |
| 09:25.16 | smoke_ | anyone a healer thats using grid? |
| 09:25.23 | cncfanatics | smoke_: me |
| 09:25.34 | Aiiane | I do, smoke_ |
| 09:25.35 | smoke_ | you use any type of HoT tracker for it? |
| 09:25.54 | smoke_ | i want like, something that has a icon w/ timer on my grid when i renew somebody.. anything that does this? |
| 09:26.04 | Aiiane | what class |
| 09:26.08 | smoke_ | priest |
| 09:26.09 | cncfanatics | renew, thats a priest |
| 09:26.18 | cncfanatics | I use it to track my rejuv, regrowth & lifebloom hots |
| 09:26.23 | cncfanatics | so pretty sure there is a priest equiv too |
| 09:26.25 | Aiiane | oh, blah, im too used to being a priest i saw renew and just read 'hot' |
| 09:26.28 | Aiiane | (lol) |
| 09:26.33 | smoke_ | cncfanatics, you use the "GridStatusHots" addon for grid? |
| 09:26.40 | CIA-45 | 03hegarol * r79110 10AtlasLoot/Instances/instances.en.lua: |
| 09:26.40 | CIA-45 | AtlasLoot: |
| 09:26.40 | CIA-45 | - minor bugs fixed |
| 09:26.40 | cncfanatics | I think its that one yea |
| 09:26.53 | smoke_ | ok thanks im going to go try it |
| 09:27.11 | Aiiane | but yeah, GridStatusHots is probably your best bet |
| 09:27.53 | digmouse | failed on commiting files again and again |
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| 09:31.04 | Pkekyo| | g'mornin ladies |
| 09:31.12 | CIA-45 | 03digmouse 07Locale * r79111 10CooldownTimers3/ (. Locale-enUS.lua Locale-zhCN.lua): |
| 09:31.12 | CIA-45 | CooldownTimers3: |
| 09:31.12 | CIA-45 | -Locales |
| 09:31.21 | Lukian | licks Pkekyo| |
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| 09:33.42 | Aiiane | morning Pkekyo| :) |
| 09:33.56 | digmouse | morning Aiiane |
| 09:33.59 | cncfanatics | anyone can spot bugs in my code ? |
| 09:34.02 | cncfanatics | it seems pretty done |
| 09:34.04 | Aiiane | Speaking of which... time for me to sleep |
| 09:34.05 | cncfanatics | but i can't test it here |
| 09:34.05 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d113edd9b |
| 09:35.01 | cncfanatics | I think that should be pretty functional |
| 09:35.07 | cncfanatics | and it ain't as much of a mess as is Instanthealth |
| 09:35.19 | digmouse | why repeatly i get "cant read status line" while committing |
| 09:35.38 | cncfanatics | ckknight: ping |
| 09:36.47 | CIA-45 | 03digmouse 07Textures * r79112 10CooldownTimers3/ (. bar.tga cilo.tga smooth.tga): |
| 09:36.47 | CIA-45 | CooldownTimers3: |
| 09:36.47 | CIA-45 | -Textures |
| 09:36.57 | cncfanatics | Xuerian|Coma: you still around ? |
| 09:37.04 | Xuerian|Coma | cncfanatics: I am |
| 09:37.22 | cncfanatics | I think I just finished the QuickHealth lib |
| 09:37.27 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d44af5d6a |
| 09:37.34 | cncfanatics | can you see any obvious errors ? |
| 09:37.37 | cncfanatics | I'm at work so can't test |
| 09:37.59 | cncfanatics | I'm also not sure about my combatlog code, first time ever I use it |
| 09:39.03 | Aiiane | night all~ |
| 09:39.05 | CIA-45 | 03digmouse 07Libs * r79113 10CooldownTimers3/ (13 files in 4 dirs): |
| 09:39.05 | CIA-45 | CooldownTimers3: |
| 09:39.05 | CIA-45 | -Libs |
| 09:39.07 | Xuerian|Coma | 'night |
| 09:39.36 | profalbert | lua> strsplit("_", "SPELL_PERIODIC_DAMAGE") |
| 09:39.37 | lua_bot | profalbert: SPELL, PERIODIC, DAMAGE |
| 09:40.08 | cncfanatics | profalbert: ty |
| 09:40.28 | profalbert | also |
| 09:40.41 | profalbert | lua> strsplit("_", "DAMAGE_SPLIT") |
| 09:40.42 | lua_bot | profalbert: DAMAGE, SPLIT |
| 09:41.03 | profalbert | and DAMAGE_SHIELD |
| 09:41.13 | cncfanatics | so basily |
| 09:41.17 | cncfanatics | I better just match for DAMAGE |
| 09:41.18 | cncfanatics | and HEAL |
| 09:41.21 | cncfanatics | instead of trying to split |
| 09:42.09 | cncfanatics | profalbert: I'm not 100% sure I understand how that works |
| 09:42.25 | cncfanatics | if say, lightning shield procs and deals 200 dmg |
| 09:42.29 | cncfanatics | what arguments will I get ? |
| 09:42.53 | cncfanatics | damage has been dealt so _DAMAGE (the plain one) should also trigger right ? |
| 09:42.56 | profalbert | the same as for "SPELL_DAMAGE" |
| 09:43.04 | profalbert | no |
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| 09:43.29 | cncfanatics | can you give me one example of a hot ticking, one of a dot ticking, one of a damage shield and one of a split ? |
| 09:43.36 | cncfanatics | no WoW atm so can't get them myself :( |
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| 09:47.40 | profalbert_ | cndfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/92416 |
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| 09:48.03 | profalbert | no DAMAGE_SPLIT occured in our BT-run yesterday |
| 09:48.57 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:49.06 | profalbert | didn't copy them |
| 09:49.24 | cncfanatics | k |
| 09:49.40 | profalbert | cause they appear formatted in the combatlog.txt |
| 09:50.44 | profalbert | http://www.google.at/search?q=DAMAGE_SPLIT |
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| 09:59.07 | Orionshock | [Ammo]: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14316.msg232440#msg232440 --is giving a straight answer so hard for you people :P |
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| 10:00.53 | Orionshock | grrr |
| 10:00.58 | Orionshock | you people :\ |
| 10:02.01 | Xuerian|Coma | Orionshock: What's the difference between that and the concensus near the start of the thread |
| 10:02.04 | Xuerian|Coma | srsls |
| 10:02.07 | Xuerian|Coma | srslsy even |
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| 10:02.25 | Orionshock | neither was clear |
| 10:02.35 | Xuerian|Coma | it was if you read the irc logs too |
| 10:02.45 | cncfanatics | is there such thing as an environmental heal ? |
| 10:02.48 | [Ammo] | wtf are you talkinga bout? |
| 10:02.59 | Xuerian|Coma | nothing [Ammo], go back to your cave |
| 10:03.24 | profalbert | cncfanatics: don't think so... totems trigger SPELL_HEAL |
| 10:03.34 | [Ammo] | I think I gave a straight answer |
| 10:03.34 | Xuerian|Coma | That or hit Orionshock over the head with a cluebat first |
| 10:03.46 | Xuerian|Coma | [Ammo]: Nah what he's saying is that you finally did |
| 10:03.53 | Xuerian|Coma | No one EARLIER could |
| 10:03.57 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 10:04.02 | [Ammo] | the start post explains it pretty clearlty |
| 10:04.10 | Xuerian|Coma | That's what I said, more or less... |
| 10:04.11 | Orionshock | the only real question i have for this upcomming change is very simple... is the dev side of wowace going to get folded into curseforge or are we getting our own version / hosting of it & getting syndication to curse? just haven't seen a clean answer yet :\ |
| 10:04.19 | Xuerian|Coma | Orionshock: It's our own |
| 10:04.20 | Orionshock | brain hurts |
| 10:04.27 | Xuerian|Coma | Sindication to anywhere (curse only first) |
| 10:04.28 | [Ammo] | wowace will keep its own identity |
| 10:04.29 | winkiller | Ackis: I reinstalled RecipeList, it's really cool now |
| 10:04.46 | [Ammo] | basically swap the wowace backend with the curseforge backend |
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| 10:04.50 | Xuerian|Coma | Orionshock: WoWAce is getting the curseforge *software* |
| 10:04.52 | Xuerian|Coma | that's it |
| 10:05.14 | Orionshock | aight ; that makes things easier to accept; and i just don't get the impression that people understand that |
| 10:05.17 | Xuerian|Coma | Kaelten is going to drive himself insane and split trunk into some thousand repos |
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| 10:05.32 | Xuerian|Coma | Orionshock: It's a emotional issue |
| 10:05.40 | Xuerian|Coma | ... or some reason |
| 10:05.43 | Xuerian|Coma | for* |
| 10:06.13 | cncfanatics | profalbert: http://pastebin.com/d31eb042c is this one correct ? |
| 10:06.28 | [Ammo] | people think this is a sudden takeover/sellout/whatever |
| 10:06.32 | [Ammo] | its not |
| 10:06.47 | Ellipsis | old news is ooooold |
| 10:07.08 | profalbert | cncfanatics: SWING can also be a SWING_MISSED |
| 10:07.38 | cncfanatics | ok, so need to check for a damage suffix |
| 10:07.40 | profalbert | same for spell |
| 10:08.03 | cncfanatics | I already check for suffixes there |
| 10:08.08 | cncfanatics | if its not DAMAGE or HEAL it gets ignored |
| 10:08.30 | cncfanatics | so SPELL_MISSED should not trigger anything at all |
| 10:08.36 | cncfanatics | fixed so its the same for swing |
| 10:08.37 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d421af2ac |
| 10:09.01 | profalbert | oh... my irc-window was overlaying the "or" part |
| 10:09.10 | winkiller | I'm sooo looking forward to stable tags |
| 10:09.11 | Xuerian|Coma | alright, I'm actually passing out now, night/moring/wtf all |
| 10:09.49 | profalbert | cncfanatics: DAMAGE_SHIELD and DAMAGE_SPLIT should be taken into account too |
| 10:10.28 | cncfanatics | what exactly does split do ? |
| 10:10.42 | profalbert | it's for spells like soullink |
| 10:11.03 | cncfanatics | will _DAMAGE not get triggered when soul link is up ? :o |
| 10:11.07 | cncfanatics | only _DAMAGE_SPLIOT ? |
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| 10:11.25 | cncfanatics | I supose so ? :) |
| 10:11.33 | profalbert | _DAMAGE does trigger for the warlock (with an absorbed amount) |
| 10:11.48 | profalbert | but for the pet only the DAMAGE_SPLIT occurs I suppose |
| 10:12.17 | profalbert | same for Blessing of sacrifice |
| 10:12.27 | cncfanatics | I see |
| 10:12.48 | cncfanatics | exact same args as _DAMAGE ? |
| 10:12.55 | cncfanatics | if so its just an or to add |
| 10:13.45 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/92417 |
| 10:13.47 | profalbert | yep |
| 10:13.59 | cncfanatics | the code I just pasted should be correct then |
| 10:14.01 | cncfanatics | any others missing? |
| 10:15.42 | profalbert | lua> local eventPrefix, eventSuffix = "DAMAGE_SHIELD":match("(.-)_(.+)"); return eventSuffix |
| 10:15.43 | lua_bot | profalbert: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ':' |
| 10:16.01 | profalbert | local eventPrefix, eventSuffix = string.match("DAMAGE_SHIELD","(.-)_(.+)"); |
| 10:16.12 | profalbert | lua> local eventPrefix, eventSuffix = string.match("DAMAGE_SHIELD","(.-)_(.+)"); |
| 10:16.12 | lua_bot | profalbert: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'ï' |
| 10:16.23 | cncfanatics | awww, its not SPELL_DAMAGE_SHIELD |
| 10:16.23 | profalbert | grml |
| 10:16.27 | cncfanatics | I get ur point :) |
| 10:16.31 | Matrix110 | (09:27:07) (@[Ammo]) Matrix110: number days bug? <---- currently BetterInbox displays "27 %d days" instead of "27 days" tested with all AddOns besides BetterInbox aswell, didnt change anything came with the patch i thinlk |
| 10:17.00 | profalbert | cncfanatics: I personally wouldn't split the string and just hardcode every event needed |
| 10:17.10 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 10:17.13 | [Ammo] | will fix |
| 10:17.25 | Matrix110 | thanks |
| 10:17.46 | cncfanatics | profalbert: would duplicate quite some code |
| 10:17.58 | cncfanatics | but ur right |
| 10:18.27 | cncfanatics | too much specialized handling for each event anyway |
| 10:20.13 | profalbert | it's not duplicate code at all |
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| 10:20.42 | cncfanatics | profalbert: ur right, its actualy way shorter http://www.pastey.net/92418 |
| 10:21.13 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 10:21.19 | cncfanatics | its spell_periodic_damage |
| 10:21.28 | cncfanatics | and not spell_damage_periodic |
| 10:21.41 | profalbert | missing heal now ;) |
| 10:21.52 | cncfanatics | yep |
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| 10:22.16 | profalbert | it's also SPELL_PERIODIC_HEAL |
| 10:22.42 | CIA-45 | 03ammo * r79114 10BetterInbox/BetterInbox.lua: BetterInbox: fix days left bug |
| 10:23.35 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/92420 |
| 10:24.05 | cncfanatics | any more missing/incorrect ? :) |
| 10:25.16 | profalbert | looks good |
| 10:25.30 | cncfanatics | up for some testing too heh ? |
| 10:25.31 | cncfanatics | I'm at work |
| 10:25.47 | cncfanatics | I could add some debug code to test it |
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| 10:26.42 | Zhinjio | so wtc |
| 10:26.44 | Zhinjio | wtf |
| 10:26.51 | Zhinjio | ping time to yahoo are sub 50ms |
| 10:26.58 | Zhinjio | ingame latency right now: 13439ms |
| 10:27.02 | Zhinjio | thatas not even funny |
| 10:27.30 | profalbert | cncfanatics: maybe later |
| 10:27.43 | profalbert | Zhinjio: some route fucked up |
| 10:27.45 | Ellipsis | grats on server fail Zhinjio |
| 10:27.53 | profalbert | or that |
| 10:28.20 | Zhinjio | yeah, srsly |
| 10:28.25 | cncfanatics | Zhinjio: route through somewhere else |
| 10:28.27 | Zhinjio | all hail comcast. |
| 10:28.28 | cncfanatics | can use ssh for that |
| 10:28.37 | cncfanatics | has nothing to do with comcast rly |
| 10:28.47 | cncfanatics | its some server between ur box & wow, might or might not be comcast |
| 10:29.19 | Ellipsis | bleh, just deal with it, I've played with worse pings :P |
| 10:29.21 | Zhinjio | yeah, but I feel pretty comfortable blaming them atm... they've been trying to bring up three new peers locally recently, and are failing miserably at iot |
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| 10:31.28 | Zhinjio | other people on the same server thta I'm talking to in vent (with no delays) are not having issues. |
| 10:31.44 | Zhinjio | its gotta be something relatively local to me. |
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| 10:32.48 | cncfanatics | could anyone test this code for me ? |
| 10:32.56 | cncfanatics | its a lib version of instanthealth with some debug code added |
| 10:32.57 | cncfanatics | http://www.pastey.net/92421 |
| 10:33.02 | Pkekyo| | ~dict coterminous |
| 10:33.32 | digmouse | weird word |
| 10:33.48 | Pkekyo| | vortigaunts @ hl2 :p |
| 10:34.04 | profalbert | cncfanatics: hmm... need an addon to test it with |
| 10:34.15 | profalbert | or wait |
| 10:34.25 | digmouse | thankfully i have Chinese voice version of HL2 |
| 10:34.43 | Ellipsis | what's vortigaunt in chinese? x.x |
| 10:35.21 | digmouse | what is vortigaunt? |
| 10:35.26 | cncfanatics | profalbert: I added debug code :D |
| 10:35.28 | Pkekyo| | ~dict vortigaunt |
| 10:35.32 | Pkekyo| | ~vortigaunt |
| 10:35.43 | Pkekyo| | digmouse: you suck if you don't know, end of discussion |
| 10:35.44 | digmouse | failed Pkekyo |
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| 10:36.05 | cncfanatics | anyway, I need to eat |
| 10:36.10 | cncfanatics | any volunteers please ping me |
| 10:36.15 | cncfanatics | I'll come to you as soon as I'm back from food :p |
| 10:36.23 | Ellipsis | digmouse: http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3613/newvortigauntht4.jpg |
| 10:36.41 | digmouse | Ellipsis: I remember |
| 10:36.42 | Pkekyo| | digimouse: well atleast I know what a vortigaunt is |
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| 10:37.22 | digmouse | in chinese it's just a transliteration |
| 10:37.50 | Ellipsis | boring :P |
| 10:38.12 | digmouse | u cant get such a thing from your common sense |
| 10:38.29 | digmouse | what can u do besides transliteration? |
| 10:38.57 | Ellipsis | I dunno, make up some cool sounding nonsense? :P |
| 10:39.09 | Zhinjio | test toon, no addons running, 7320ms latency |
| 10:39.13 | Zhinjio | this is just stupid. |
| 10:39.25 | Zhinjio | no issues with any other sites or anything. |
| 10:39.44 | digmouse | but it definitely sounds nonsense until u log into HL2 and see them |
| 10:41.02 | Ellipsis | fair enough, I suppose english nonsense does just as well as chinese for that |
| 10:42.02 | durcyn | [Ammo]: speaking of BetterInbox, there's a leaked global 'expireTime' on line 281 |
| 10:42.22 | nevcairiel | evil!° |
| 10:42.44 | digmouse | and the chinese pronouciation of vortigaunt is really silly |
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| 10:49.38 | cnc|food | nevcairiel: could you test my lil lib ? :p |
| 10:49.45 | nevcairiel | no |
| 10:49.50 | cnc|food | :'( |
| 10:49.54 | cnc|food | evol |
| 10:50.04 | reqol | if I hook CastSpell/CastSpellByName/UseAction, will the function provided for hooksecurefunc complete before the spell is cast? |
| 10:50.12 | reqol | I'm using it to grab the # of combo points for kidney shot and rupture's duration |
| 10:50.28 | cncfanatics | reqol: it will |
| 10:50.36 | reqol | okay, thanks. : ) |
| 10:50.51 | cncfanatics | reqol: I don't get why you'd wat that though |
| 10:51.01 | cncfanatics | you can get the duration from the buff API |
| 10:51.09 | durcyn | why not just watch PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS and UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT |
| 10:51.20 | cncfanatics | that also works |
| 10:51.26 | Ellipsis | let's see how many other alternative solutions we can come up with :P |
| 10:51.30 | cncfanatics | but for tracking kidney & rupt duration you rly don't want to calculate stuff |
| 10:51.36 | cncfanatics | as talents can change them |
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| 10:51.55 | durcyn | and gear, yeah. buff api seems the way to go. |
| 10:51.56 | reqol | well |
| 10:52.05 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: it sorta works... >.> |
| 10:52.16 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: what does ? |
| 10:52.22 | reqol | what exactly do you propose? |
| 10:52.36 | Orionshock | that snipit of code u gave me for the CD on the mouse |
| 10:52.50 | cncfanatics | good stuff :) |
| 10:52.54 | Orionshock | sorta, that event dosn't pass any args ... |
| 10:52.56 | reqol | I could use UnitDebuff, find rupture, and use the duration which has the smallest difference between the max duration and the time left |
| 10:53.05 | cncfanatics | tickle with the code a bit |
| 10:53.09 | cncfanatics | I hardcoded it completely :p |
| 10:53.20 | cncfanatics | and it does pass args iirc |
| 10:53.27 | Orionshock | tested, no args |
| 10:53.28 | reqol | otherwise, since there can be multiple ruptures on the target, I have no way of knowing which is mine. unless I'm missing something |
| 10:53.28 | cncfanatics | if not, use GetSpellCooldown(); |
| 10:53.37 | cncfanatics | GetSpellCooldown it is then Orionshock |
| 10:53.40 | Orionshock | GetActionCooldown |
| 10:53.45 | cncfanatics | no |
| 10:53.47 | cncfanatics | use GetSpell |
| 10:53.55 | nevcairiel | reqol: only your own rupture will give you a duration time back |
| 10:54.03 | reqol | oh, cool |
| 10:54.03 | nevcairiel | reqol: that way you know which is youes |
| 10:54.06 | nevcairiel | *yours |
| 10:54.42 | reqol | well then, hm. and I suppose checking the duration is more accurate than using SPELL_AURA_APPLIED? (disregarding talents that reduce the duration and such) |
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| 10:54.55 | durcyn | reqol: always |
| 10:54.59 | reqol | not to mention I could take the diminishing return code out completely |
| 10:55.20 | durcyn | just watch UNIT_AURA events then rescan your target as necessary |
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| 10:58.21 | durcyn | just be aware that you'll need an actual unit token to use UnitBuff() |
| 10:58.44 | cncfanatics | most likely target |
| 10:59.22 | durcyn | most likely, sure, but you can macro [target] it onto anything |
| 11:00.06 | Zhinjio | ok, its just Hellscream. Nordrassil latency 68ms |
| 11:00.16 | Zhinjio | that makes me a sad panda. |
| 11:01.34 | reqol | also, to answer your question durcyn, I WAS using PLAYER_COMBO_POINTS, but when ruthlessness procced, it updated for the extra combo point before the timer started, which threw things off |
| 11:01.55 | durcyn | blah. out of order events are fun aren't they ;) |
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| 11:04.08 | reqol | if the source of the combat log event is the player, will the GUID always be 0x00000...? |
| 11:04.38 | durcyn | no, 0x0 is a nil guid |
| 11:05.01 | cncfanatics | reqol: you want to do a bitwise and |
| 11:05.03 | durcyn | look at the name portion, those are events without sources listed, like SPELL_AURA |
| 11:05.03 | reqol | ah, I must have been checking something that didn't havea source |
| 11:05.28 | durcyn | which is intentionally suppressed to make it harder to guess certain things from combat logs in pvp |
| 11:05.57 | reqol | so I should just scan after every SPELL_AURA_APPLIED? |
| 11:06.10 | cncfanatics | why are you even using the combatlog ? |
| 11:06.15 | cncfanatics | the buff events shld do nicely :p |
| 11:06.31 | durcyn | CLEU is wayyy too spammy to use for that, just watch UNIT_AURA_foo |
| 11:07.02 | reqol | I figured as much, alright. |
| 11:07.15 | cncfanatics | so, anyone feel like testing something ? |
| 11:07.33 | reqol | wow, that fits nicely, as it passes a unit ID |
| 11:08.01 | cncfanatics | exactly ;) |
| 11:08.39 | Trell_ | who was it that said a guildie of theirs sent an email to blizzard asking if their system could handle wotlk and got a beta key in return? |
| 11:09.32 | cncfanatics | Trell_: guillotine I think :unsure: |
| 11:09.48 | reqol | does UNIT_AURA fire when a unit other than your target/focus loses/gains a buff/debuff? |
| 11:10.13 | Trell_ | I tried it - no such luck :P |
| 11:10.14 | reqol | or does it only return one when the unit is your focus/target/whatever? |
| 11:10.20 | Trell_ | just got a stock reply with the system requirements |
| 11:10.41 | cncfanatics | reqol: fires for all valid units |
| 11:10.41 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79115 10simpleMinimap/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 11:10.41 | CIA-45 | simpleMinimap: |
| 11:10.41 | CIA-45 | - update ruRU localization |
| 11:10.51 | Trell_ | Your system looks fine. And I think it should be able to handle Wrath of the Lich King. I am on a much worse system running the BETA although nothing is finished yet and they havenÂ’t released and actual system requirements so donÂ’t actually know. |
| 11:10.56 | cncfanatics | which means target, targettarget, focus, player, party1..5 raid1...40 |
| 11:11.29 | cncfanatics | mouseover also |
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| 11:12.46 | reqol | then I'll have to use SPELL_AURA_REMOVED/DISPELLED to get rid of excess timers |
| 11:13.19 | reqol | though this should work MUCH better than the previous system, I appreciate all the help : ) |
| 11:13.25 | durcyn | you still don't need CLEU |
| 11:13.38 | durcyn | go spend some time looking at Quartz_Buff |
| 11:13.47 | cncfanatics | do NOT *ever* use the CLEU except if you have absolutely no choice |
| 11:13.55 | reqol | lol, okay : ) |
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| 11:20.35 | reqol | well, the reason I wanted to use SPELL_AURA_DISPELLED is because bars don't disappear on target change. so if I had it registered, I could remove bars that end prematurely. |
| 11:21.40 | cncfanatics | well, Isupose you could use it also :p |
| 11:21.52 | cncfanatics | for that at least, there ain't much other choices |
| 11:22.14 | durcyn | again, look at Quartz_Buff. it does what you're doing already. |
| 11:22.21 | durcyn | like, exactly. |
| 11:22.26 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 11:22.32 | reqol | from what I can tell, it removes the bars on target change |
| 11:24.09 | durcyn | oh, i misunderstood. in that case, yes, you could call UnitGUID() on the token you scan UnitBuff() on, then match on that for the SPELL_AURA_REMOVED event |
| 11:25.07 | durcyn | you don't need DISPEL, as that's for actual dispels like cleanse/decurse, and they also have REMOVED subevents iirc |
| 11:26.19 | Fisker- | ~cartographer3 |
| 11:26.20 | purl | somebody said cartographer3 was the successor to WoW addon Cartographer, acts similarly to google maps. Download at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/ - Provide feedback at http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/cartographer3/tickets/. Video: http://www.vimeo.com/917523 |
| 11:26.25 | cncfanatics | ~fisker- |
| 11:26.25 | purl | somebody said fisker- was Get to da choppa! |
| 11:26.35 | Fisker- | foiled again |
| 11:26.44 | reqol | well, the event page said that DISPEL was triggered when an event was removed early, and that REMOVED was triggered and a buff/debuff expired, so I was going by that |
| 11:26.50 | reqol | which does the pvp trinket trigger? |
| 11:27.13 | durcyn | hmm, that hasn't been my experience from combat log examination, let me find one from a recent raid |
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| 11:27.55 | cncfanatics | pvp should trigger a dispell logicaly |
| 11:28.09 | reqol | aye, that's what I figured |
| 11:28.20 | cncfanatics | but, u shld test that rly |
| 11:28.34 | cncfanatics | ask your friendly rogue to duel you and check what events trigger when u trinket & stun |
| 11:28.52 | cncfanatics | s/&/a/ |
| 11:28.56 | durcyn | nope, i definitely see REMOVED for every DISPEL in this log |
| 11:29.11 | durcyn | and pvp trinkets still generate zero events, afaik |
| 11:29.32 | cncfanatics | ouch |
| 11:29.34 | cncfanatics | thats anoying |
| 11:29.37 | cncfanatics | but prolly on purpose |
| 11:29.57 | durcyn | well, the aura removal shows up, it just doesn't tell you how or why |
| 11:31.31 | Vulcanus | because it didn't like you anymore |
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| 11:35.26 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: http://ace.pastey.net/92426 |
| 11:35.43 | Orionshock | there in 54 lines :D |
| 11:35.45 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: it works ? :) |
| 11:35.50 | Orionshock | ya |
| 11:36.02 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.07 | Orionshock | lol |
| 11:36.09 | cncfanatics | ( 1.5 > (duration > 0 and duration)) wtf ? |
| 11:36.26 | cncfanatics | just duration and duration <= 1.5 |
| 11:36.26 | Orionshock | because it's catching alot of stuff with that perticular event setup :\ |
| 11:36.39 | cncfanatics | don't use the twisted clause u used ther -.- |
| 11:39.48 | Orionshock | what should i call that? any one wana put up a name for it? |
| 11:42.31 | Pneu| | will GetSpellCooldown("Find Herbs") work even if people arent herbalists? |
| 11:42.38 | cncfanatics | OrionOnCursor |
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| 11:42.44 | Pneumatus | GCDOCD |
| 11:42.51 | cncfanatics | Pneu|: no |
| 11:47.04 | Cheads | r79108 Babble-Spell-2.2.lua line 9359:["Create Soulstone (Lesser)"] ="Create Soulstone (Lesser)" |
| 11:47.04 | Cheads | it's missing a , at the end. |
| 11:47.42 | cncfanatics | Cheads: babble spell should die |
| 11:47.45 | cncfanatics | use spellid's already |
| 11:47.49 | reqol | wow, I like that, Orionshock. XD |
| 11:47.58 | CIA-45 | 03gnarfoz * r79116 10Babble-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2/Babble-Spell-2.2.lua: .Babble-Spell-2.2: fix ruRU translation. we need that luac -p pre-commit hook. :p |
| 11:48.39 | Orionshock | reqol: go figure, it's simple mods for simple people, like me :D |
| 11:48.44 | cncfanatics | why is babble-spell still up ? |
| 11:48.47 | cncfanatics | it should get removed |
| 11:48.54 | Gnarfoz | remove it then, ffs |
| 11:48.55 | cncfanatics | to get people to finaly use spellid's |
| 11:48.56 | Gnarfoz | or shut up |
| 11:49.00 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: when the change hits! it will :D |
| 11:50.15 | yoshimo | is there any reason to still use babblespell ? |
| 11:50.34 | cncfanatics | nop |
| 11:50.36 | cncfanatics | there isn't |
| 11:50.53 | durcyn | ~lart Gnarfoz |
| 11:50.53 | purl | stabs Gnarfoz |
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| 11:51.04 | Gnarfoz | ~kill durcyn |
| 11:51.05 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged fluxproton gun at durcyn |
| 11:51.10 | Gnarfoz | wtf do you want |
| 11:51.18 | cncfanatics | profalbert: thanks for all the help earlyer :) didn't tank you yet |
| 11:51.24 | cncfanatics | s/tank/thank/ |
| 11:51.25 | durcyn | should leave deprecated libraries broken so no one tries to use them =P |
| 11:52.06 | Cheads | some usefull (old) addons still depend on it =( |
| 11:52.09 | profalbert | cncfanatics: np, anyone tested the lib yet? It's doing nothing for me. but that could also be my fault |
| 11:53.15 | Orionshock | reqol: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8992-TargetRaidIcon-Demo.html |
| 11:53.15 | cncfanatics | profalbert: Orionshock & me are testing it atm |
| 11:53.24 | profalbert | ok |
| 11:53.26 | sylvanaar | I'd like to see babble-class implement the gender neutral stuff I did in 2.2 - actually I should see if it has |
| 11:53.27 | cncfanatics | seems I borked my event frame though |
| 11:53.38 | cncfanatics | which is weird -.- its code i write every day |
| 11:54.04 | profalbert | that would explain it |
| 11:54.06 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d44c5207c is the current stuff btw |
| 11:56.51 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: yeah, because you say so? fuck off :p I'll fix it, if an addon I use uses it |
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| 11:57.07 | yoshimo | libpt3.1 and all the babble* should be included by blizzard |
| 11:57.18 | Gnarfoz | babble isn't even necessary in most cases anymor |
| 11:57.19 | Gnarfoz | +e |
| 11:57.44 | cncfanatics | babble got "included" by blizz |
| 11:57.53 | cncfanatics | if u know a spellid u can get a localized spellname anyway |
| 11:58.06 | profalbert | babble-spell got included |
| 11:58.43 | profalbert | babble-class too |
| 12:00.21 | reqol | Orionshock: XD, sleek : ) |
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| 12:00.41 | yoshimo | can you get the npc-id on targt mouseover? |
| 12:00.54 | Orionshock | yoshimo: yes |
| 12:00.57 | cncfanatics | GetUnitGUID("mouseover"); |
| 12:00.58 | profalbert | UnitGUID("mouseover") |
| 12:01.02 | cncfanatics | UnitGUID* |
| 12:02.50 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79117 10Cartographer_nnTrainers/ (Cartographer_nnTrainers.toc nnTrainers.lua): |
| 12:02.50 | CIA-45 | Cartographer_nnTrainers: |
| 12:02.50 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU localization |
| 12:04.20 | cncfanatics | ~ping |
| 12:04.20 | purl | pong |
| 12:04.42 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79118 10Cartographer_Trainers/ (Cartographer_Trainers.toc addon.lua): |
| 12:04.42 | CIA-45 | Cartographer_Trainers |
| 12:04.42 | CIA-45 | adde ruRU localozation (not translated import Trainers names) |
| 12:04.58 | Camci | do i remove babble_spell? also it just gave me an error :p |
| 12:05.43 | Orionshock | reqol: yep it's the closest thing people are going to get to targeting a raid icon directly / at all :\ |
| 12:06.38 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79119 10Cartographer_Vendors/ (Cartographer_Vendors.toc addon.lua): |
| 12:06.38 | CIA-45 | Cartographer_Vendors |
| 12:06.38 | CIA-45 | adde ruRU localozation (not translated import Vendors names) |
| 12:07.26 | cncfanatics | profalbert: its working now |
| 12:07.29 | cncfanatics | can send it to you if you want |
| 12:08.11 | profalbert | yeah please |
| 12:08.29 | Orionshock | goes and uploads his mouseover gcd watcher addon to wowi so he can get another chance at beta key :D |
| 12:08.42 | cncfanatics | Orionshock: its one per author not per addon :p |
| 12:08.47 | Orionshock | damn |
| 12:09.28 | Orionshock | anyone know if those went out yet? |
| 12:10.02 | cncfanatics | not afaik |
| 12:10.20 | yoshimo | monday i was told |
| 12:10.41 | Orionshock | where is the irc for wowi? |
| 12:10.45 | Orionshock | wowi-lounge? |
| 12:10.59 | ckknight | cncfanatics: pong |
| 12:11.07 | Neya_ | I can imagine the confusion my addon gives them, different name in the .toc than project author, the problem is that I use both xD |
| 12:11.10 | ckknight | Aiiane: hrm? |
| 12:18.50 | profalbert | cncfanatics: I guess life-tap isn't the best spell to test that |
| 12:19.04 | cncfanatics | profalbert: nope, it'll cause a discrepancy |
| 12:19.42 | profalbert | because it only triggers a SPELL_ENGERGIZE |
| 12:20.54 | cncfanatics | profalbert: its good to test if the discrepancy detection works correctly |
| 12:21.20 | cncfanatics | but dots, hot, dd, dh shld work |
| 12:21.23 | cncfanatics | as well as environmental dmg |
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| 12:21.45 | profalbert | the values that are generated for Units where the real HP-value is not known, get negative |
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| 12:22.51 | cncfanatics | profalbert: ups, indeed |
| 12:22.54 | cncfanatics | hmmm, anoying |
| 12:22.59 | cncfanatics | very anoyig |
| 12:24.22 | cncfanatics | how could I get around that heh |
| 12:25.38 | cncfanatics | profalbert: ur right, it can only work for people u know the health of |
| 12:25.44 | cncfanatics | need to fix that so it doesn't try to get it if it doesn't know it |
| 12:25.57 | profalbert | if UnitHealthMax(unitId) == 100 then return end |
| 12:26.08 | cncfanatics | yea |
| 12:26.16 | cncfanatics | I get a GUID though :) |
| 12:26.37 | profalbert | the UNIT_HEALTH has unitid as arg |
| 12:27.11 | profalbert | UNIT_HEALTH-updates on targets you don't know the real HP-value are useless anyway |
| 12:27.20 | cncfanatics | yea, exactly |
| 12:27.27 | cncfanatics | but messes the combatlog parsing code |
| 12:27.38 | cncfanatics | gonna add a UnitHealth function of my own which does stuff correctly |
| 12:28.21 | profalbert | in fact I think that's just a performance Issue |
| 12:28.49 | profalbert | no wait... UF would get negative %-values |
| 12:28.54 | profalbert | for target |
| 12:29.32 | cncfanatics | this should do |
| 12:29.33 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d2515e660 |
| 12:29.48 | cncfanatics | I nil out entries that I get 100 for from UnitHealthmax |
| 12:31.16 | cncfanatics | profalbert: works right now ? |
| 12:31.33 | profalbert | didn't test yet |
| 12:31.48 | profalbert | small performance-tweak though http://pastebin.com/d70157db9 |
| 12:31.56 | profalbert | very very small |
| 12:33.01 | cncfanatics | not so small |
| 12:33.05 | cncfanatics | can trigger tons & tons & tons of time |
| 12:33.06 | Fisker- | owns cncfanatics |
| 12:33.23 | profalbert | triggers quite often in raids |
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| 12:34.37 | cncfanatics | yea, exactly |
| 12:35.16 | cncfanatics | also |
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| 12:35.19 | cncfanatics | it can get quite a mem hog |
| 12:35.23 | cncfanatics | if you meet lots of different guids |
| 12:35.25 | cncfanatics | it'll get huge |
| 12:35.37 | cncfanatics | better use weak tables |
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| 12:38.12 | cncfanatics | nvm, can't do that here |
| 12:38.21 | cncfanatics | we're using strings , won't take much mem anyway |
| 12:38.22 | cncfanatics | ~slapself |
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| 12:52.43 | Stanzilla | those Elitist Jerks forum moderators are very weird |
| 12:52.52 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 12:52.59 | Stanzilla | your mum |
| 12:53.06 | pb_ee1 | your sister |
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| 12:56.35 | kenlyric | oh, come on, share with us |
| 12:56.39 | kenlyric | what did you get an infraction for? |
| 12:56.47 | Stanzilla | my empty char profile |
| 12:56.53 | kenlyric | burn |
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| 12:57.01 | Stanzilla | I entered dwarf mage after the first infraction and got another one^^ |
| 12:57.16 | profalbert | lol |
| 12:57.17 | kenlyric | wow forums are for shitting on |
| 12:57.31 | kenlyric | you may only piss on ej forums |
| 12:57.53 | kenlyric | let me guess, there's a wau dying thread? |
| 12:58.07 | Stanzilla | yeah that too |
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| 13:02.11 | CIA-45 | 03sungam * r79120 10Darkness/ (Darkness.toc embeds.xml): |
| 13:02.11 | CIA-45 | Darkness: |
| 13:02.11 | CIA-45 | -- Hopefully fixed Externals |
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| 13:08.34 | Zhinjio | sleepytime. G'night. |
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| 13:14.50 | _rane | is it in theory possible to create an addon that monitors your targets energy? |
| 13:15.04 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 13:15.45 | _rane | what would be the 'event' for that? |
| 13:16.01 | nevcairiel | UNIT_ENERGY with arg1="target" |
| 13:16.03 | nevcairiel | i suppose |
| 13:16.13 | Gnarfoz | why did EavesDrop and parrot stop working o_O |
| 13:16.36 | Ellipsis | because patches change stuff |
| 13:16.54 | CrazyBenny_ | eavesdrop works for me |
| 13:16.59 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: because you fail |
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| 13:17.49 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: yeah right, which patch would that be again? ~troll |
| 13:18.05 | profalbert | Parrot works for me |
| 13:19.37 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz |
| 13:19.38 | Fisker- | halp |
| 13:19.39 | Fisker- | i\m dying |
| 13:19.42 | Fisker- | i'm* |
| 13:19.58 | Ellipsis | kills Fisker- |
| 13:20.19 | _rane | nevcairiel: hmm |
| 13:20.20 | _rane | Seen unit names: |
| 13:20.21 | _rane | * player |
| 13:20.24 | _rane | under UNIT_ENERGY event |
| 13:20.36 | _rane | what does that mean? |
| 13:21.07 | nevcairiel | Did you actually target someone? |
| 13:21.08 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:21.27 | _rane | i'm not implementing anything |
| 13:21.30 | _rane | http://www.wowwiki.com/Events/Unit_Info |
| 13:22.18 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
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| 13:33.40 | genetik- | anyone here have a favorite guide to skilling up leatherworking that's accurate and up-to-date? |
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| 13:34.32 | Zyndrome | http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/feminists-in-feeding-frenzy-over-fat-princess/1232315 |
| 13:34.33 | Zyndrome | geez |
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| 13:36.11 | cncfanatics | Zyndrome: some people take feminism to epic levels |
| 13:37.08 | Zyndrome | "You can't go around making *takes a bite of the cheeseburger* games with fat girls in *sips from the DIET coke* it, it's wrong!" |
| 13:38.02 | cncfanatics | Zyndrome: would have male-ists complaining about it if the head character was male ? :p |
| 13:38.35 | Zyndrome | naw, just dress up the character in a truckers outfit |
| 13:38.38 | Zyndrome | "awesome!" |
| 13:38.44 | cncfanatics | Zyndrome: wtf, too much blood in that game :o |
| 13:39.09 | cncfanatics | its liek, more bloody then WoW :p |
| 13:39.41 | Zyndrome | yeah but OH GOD THE GIRL'S FAT |
| 13:41.58 | Mellerfal | Most women think they're (much) larger than they really are anyhow, from my experience. |
| 13:42.25 | cncfanatics | thats a bit cliché-ish |
| 13:42.35 | kaiden | not entirely :P |
| 13:42.37 | cncfanatics | some do, and they stand out more then the ones who don't |
| 13:43.45 | Zyndrome | heh when I happen to see this show called "Look Good Naked" on TV , pretty much every woman think she is much larger than she really is, with an average over-estimate of 50% :P |
| 13:44.44 | Zyndrome | http://www2.kerrang.com/2008/07/emo_and_goth_to_be_made_illega.html |
| 13:44.50 | Zyndrome | "The Russian government is in the process of drafting a law to make emo and goth music illegal." |
| 13:44.50 | Zyndrome | :O |
| 13:44.56 | cncfanatics | rofl ? |
| 13:45.00 | kaiden | haha |
| 13:45.02 | cncfanatics | uproar inc |
| 13:45.16 | nevcairiel | good decision, imho =P |
| 13:45.17 | kaiden | they better be careful.. i mean look at what happened in mexico |
| 13:45.20 | kaiden | when the emo's united |
| 13:45.26 | Zyndrome | pass through the law, and I'll celebrate |
| 13:46.00 | cncfanatics | kaiden: what happened ? |
| 13:46.27 | VonhintenHOME` | The russian government is also trying to ressurrect Stalin as a "Good Guy" |
| 13:46.34 | kaiden | http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2008/03/anti-emo-riots.html |
| 13:46.36 | VonhintenHOME` | rewriting history books |
| 13:47.01 | Zyndrome | that had to be a really quiet riot |
| 13:47.25 | Zyndrome | oh a vidya-clip |
| 13:47.52 | Bibi` | emo illegal ? |
| 13:47.56 | Bibi` | are they going to cancel WoW ? |
| 13:47.57 | Bibi` | :/ |
| 13:48.05 | cncfanatics | sigh @ fighting over music |
| 13:48.07 | cncfanatics | seriously |
| 13:48.12 | Bibi | anyway, beta class changes up you know where |
| 13:48.42 | cncfanatics | Bibi: wha ? |
| 13:48.53 | VonhintenHOME` | Sounds like the Alpha's vs the Beta's |
| 13:48.55 | Bibi | bah. |
| 13:48.56 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=11200.0 |
| 13:50.53 | cncfanatics | Flourish mana cost decreased from 585 to 450. Amount of healing decreased (Rank 1 now heals 672 HP instead of 1610). OUCH |
| 13:50.54 | cncfanatics | nerf |
| 13:51.06 | nevcairiel | that was way too high anyway |
| 13:51.23 | Zyndrome | claps 'Beacon of Light' on the back , "it's alright now" |
| 13:51.29 | Codayus | Heh, yeah. It's funny how they decrease the mana cost a hair...just so it isn't a COMPLETE nerf... |
| 13:51.53 | cncfanatics | I do admit it was too high though |
| 13:52.26 | Codayus | Hmm, no priest nerfs in the last round of changes? |
| 13:52.32 | Codayus | ....must be fake, wtf. |
| 13:53.18 | cncfanatics | Bloodletting has been renamed to Improved Rend once again and doesn't increase the amount of damage caused by Bloodbath anymore. <3 |
| 13:53.26 | cncfanatics | IMPROVED REND ftw |
| 13:53.29 | VonhintenHOME` | Holy shield will now give you 6 charges instead of 4...wow |
| 13:53.37 | CIA-45 | 03p3lim * r79123 10oUF_DruidMana/oUF_DruidMana.lua: |
| 13:53.37 | CIA-45 | oUF_DruidMana: |
| 13:53.38 | CIA-45 | - Some minor cleanups |
| 13:53.38 | CIA-45 | 03Bangerz * r79121 10Bang!_Libram_Swap/BangLibramSwap.lua: Bang!_Libram_Swap: removed l2 |
| 13:53.48 | Codayus | VonhintenHOME`: Not too impressive if I understand the overall trend of tanking in wrath... |
| 13:53.59 | Codayus | *shrug* Nice though. |
| 13:54.09 | VonhintenHOME` | why's that? |
| 13:54.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Guarded by the Light now reduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath and Avenger's Shield by 15/30% (Old version : Whenever your parry or dodge an attack you have a 10% chance to reduce the mana cost of your next Consecration, Holy Wrath, or Avenger's Shield spell by 25%/50%) |
| 13:54.24 | VonhintenHOME` | woot |
| 13:54.29 | VonhintenHOME` | that's a nice change |
| 13:54.30 | cncfanatics | ~seen ag |
| 13:54.33 | purl | ag is currently on #gnu-kbsd (2d 14h 35m 17s), last said: 'tarzeau: i didn't check yet, i was eager to hear about your progress (like the moocher i am) :]'. |
| 13:54.46 | cncfanatics | ~seen ag' |
| 13:54.47 | purl | cncfanatics: i haven't seen 'ag'' |
| 13:54.49 | nevcairiel | ~seen ag` |
| 13:54.49 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@0x57317a46.bynxx19.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 12h 42m 41s ago, saying: '"I did it for the lulz"'. |
| 13:54.52 | cncfanatics | ty nevcairiel |
| 13:55.26 | VonhintenHOME` | omgah! Improved Blessing of Might now increases the attack power bonus of your Blessing of Might by 10/20/30/40/50% instead of 4/8/12/16/20% |
| 13:55.42 | Zyndrome | yarr |
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| 13:55.58 | Codayus | VonhintenHOME`: IIRC, crushing blows are being removed, which makes being uncrushable a lot less important, and so talents which drastically up shield block chance less important? I think. Possibly. Unless I'm wrong... |
| 13:56.56 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, but they're making block value more important by the looks, which has a nice synergy with block rating when taking LOTS of mobs |
| 13:57.12 | genetik- | blocking is still good for general damage mitigation |
| 13:57.24 | Codayus | Perhaps. Certainly it's really excellent for AoE tanking...or AoE prot grinding. |
| 13:59.27 | Codayus | Might be interesting if the 4 tank classes shook down into some sort of niche. They already do a little bit with the current 3, but perhaps they're trying to go further. |
| 13:59.54 | VonhintenHOME` | That would really be counter to what they should do |
| 14:00.10 | Codayus | Yeah...well...depends how they do it. |
| 14:00.17 | VonhintenHOME` | Pally's already have a monopoly on many heroic dungeons |
| 14:00.27 | cncfanatics | VonhintenHOME`: they do ? |
| 14:00.28 | cncfanatics | new to me |
| 14:00.33 | Codayus | cncfanatics: Monopoly is strong. |
| 14:00.48 | cncfanatics | Codayus: I rly don't care what kind of tank I'm with when doing heroics tbh |
| 14:00.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Ever run heroic SH with a warrior or druid tank? especially without salve |
| 14:00.55 | Codayus | But if you had an equally geared/skilled tank of any class to run your through SH, you'd pick pally. Duh. |
| 14:01.10 | nevcairiel | VonhintenHOME`: i actually tanked it as a warr, perfectly possible ;) |
| 14:01.15 | neya | VonhintenHOME, aye I have, works wonderfull. |
| 14:01.27 | neya | (might be because I was the tank, feral). |
| 14:01.28 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, you guys must never run with random pugs then :) |
| 14:01.32 | Codayus | Right, and the last shatterd halls run I did was with a war, AND it was the smoothest and fastest heroic I've ever done. |
| 14:02.03 | Codayus | Which is 100% immaterial, pallies are better at it, because they can just blitz the entire thing. CC? Wazat? |
| 14:02.04 | cncfanatics | VonhintenHOME`: I did |
| 14:02.18 | cncfanatics | pally's are slightly better yea |
| 14:02.24 | cncfanatics | but I only pug dps, so :) (I'm healer) |
| 14:02.26 | VonhintenHOME` | exactly, no-CC > CC |
| 14:02.59 | VonhintenHOME` | The skill level of the players can contribute to the tank having an easier time |
| 14:03.09 | VonhintenHOME` | When the skill level drops, the pally just shines |
| 14:03.18 | _rane | is it possible to check based on name if that unit is hostile? |
| 14:03.36 | Codayus | VonhintenHOME`: Hrm, probably true. |
| 14:03.55 | nevcairiel | _rane: no, you can only use name lookup for members in your party/raid, everything outside -> only unit tokens |
| 14:04.48 | _rane | so there's no way for me to determine in UNIT_ENERGY event if the unit whose energy changed is hostile? |
| 14:05.06 | nevcairiel | _rane; you get the unit token with the event, so its possible |
| 14:05.12 | _rane | you do? |
| 14:05.19 | cncfanatics | ofc you do :p |
| 14:05.22 | _rane | didn't seem like that |
| 14:05.25 | cncfanatics | UNIT_ENERGY's first param is the unitID |
| 14:05.31 | nevcairiel | arg1 should be the unit token |
| 14:05.58 | _rane | yes, i get target/player etc with it |
| 14:07.22 | _rane | but how does that get me the affiliation |
| 14:07.39 | profalbert | UnitIsHostile(unitID) |
| 14:07.44 | profalbert | äh |
| 14:07.49 | profalbert | UnitIsEnemy(unitID) |
| 14:08.37 | Orionshock | cncfanatics: that UID for Unit_Energy dosn't fire for anyone else iirc |
| 14:09.49 | cncfanatics | well, my unitframe can keep track of the energy of my target afaik |
| 14:10.17 | Orionshock | i think other players fire the Unit_Power ? event |
| 14:11.34 | _rane | UNIT_POWER event? |
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| 14:12.07 | Orionshock | ya, read on the wiki that Unit_Energy only fires for the player and that arg1 is always the player |
| 14:12.16 | _rane | target too |
| 14:12.26 | _rane | there is no "UNIT_POWER" event |
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| 14:13.50 | Orionshock | ya |
| 14:14.00 | Orionshock | energy is weird tbh |
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| 14:22.13 | VonhintenHOME` | Wow, just tried to do an AV, couldn't move when I joined, then it said "Not enough players. The game will end in 2 min." Then everyone left. |
| 14:22.19 | VonhintenHOME` | Haven't seen that one before |
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| 14:23.46 | nevcairiel | happens if the other side doesng get enough players in |
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| 14:45.00 | kaiden | njmaki |
| 14:48.11 | Pkekyo| | ~date |
| 14:48.12 | purl | It is now 2008.07.25 14:48:12 GMT |
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| 15:11.38 | Lukian | 01:08:34 <Sunsilk:70> whispers: You have Bane of Treachery! |
| 15:11.38 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.41 | Lukian | gg bigwigs |
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| 15:12.49 | sb | nevcairiel: finally i can install the beta - after downloading 10gb of wow stuff (classic, bc, patches) ;o |
| 15:13.41 | TheOther | meh.... want beta.... |
| 15:13.46 | TheOther | damn you sb ;) |
| 15:14.07 | sb | err i dont have a key :p |
| 15:14.13 | sb | just installed that client |
| 15:14.20 | TheOther | ahhh :p |
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| 15:16.31 | sb | no idea if i will ever get some beta key... but there is still hope ;) |
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| 15:25.06 | Zyndrome | there will be a rip in the space continuum, causing us to fall into an alternate dimension, where everyone but me gets a betakey |
| 15:25.20 | Zyndrome | (when I get pesimistic, things tend to change) |
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| 15:28.07 | sb | everyone but you? sounds okay to me :p |
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| 15:28.34 | majikfx | hi there |
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| 15:29.01 | majikfx | am i allowed to ask question as to what mod people can recommend me here? |
| 15:29.11 | genetik- | ~asktoask |
| 15:29.12 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:29.28 | majikfx | :) glad to hear |
| 15:29.44 | kaiden | purl, can i ask you a question about asking the proper question to find information on asking about asking? |
| 15:29.54 | kaiden | *moo* |
| 15:30.05 | genetik- | you're going to make the poor thing explode |
| 15:30.10 | majikfx | well I'm looking for a specific addon for 2v2 mage/rogue. What is says is like "Kidney shot Used" and "Polymorph Broken" "Natures Swiftness used" |
| 15:30.12 | kaiden | tries |
| 15:30.30 | majikfx | and it pops out like a raid warning but on the top of the screen |
| 15:30.55 | genetik- | i'm guessing you're looking for WitchHunt |
| 15:31.06 | majikfx | ill look it up :P brb |
| 15:31.54 | genetik- | witchhunt will show you when enemies cast things.. that might not be what you're looking for |
| 15:32.00 | kaiden | oh yeahhhh pills are starting to take effect |
| 15:32.04 | kaiden | pain in ankle is subsiding |
| 15:32.07 | kaiden | happy times are here again |
| 15:32.15 | kaiden | i'm going to go lick the wall now |
| 15:32.19 | Zyndrome | so are the happy colors |
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| 15:34.17 | majikfx | its kind of like a spell alert |
| 15:34.21 | majikfx | here's the video |
| 15:34.21 | majikfx | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF0JgWgSjvw |
| 15:34.44 | majikfx | and at around 20 seconds is the first alert |
| 15:35.23 | genetik- | hm.. not sure |
| 15:35.37 | genetik- | not witchhunt, though |
| 15:35.45 | majikfx | maybe the guy made it himself :P |
| 15:35.47 | majikfx | no idea |
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| 15:43.52 | majikfx | i think NinjaYell is the one |
| 15:43.54 | majikfx | ill try it out |
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| 16:10.15 | Zyndrome | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869249 |
| 16:10.21 | Zyndrome | now that's plain out retarded |
| 16:11.19 | Zyndrome | "yeah lets deny all use of Linux on our products, go Windows instead lol" |
| 16:13.13 | EvilJohn | you can't be ACPI for windows |
| 16:13.20 | EvilJohn | ACPI or not. |
| 16:13.24 | EvilJohn | they are not. |
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| 17:22.23 | TheDarkWizard | Hello all, first of all sorry for my english level. I'll try to do my best to be understood. |
| 17:22.54 | Aeyan | Ello |
| 17:24.00 | Hjalte | Hi there |
| 17:24.12 | cncfanatics | pastamancer: ping |
| 17:25.08 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 17:25.08 | purl | hits Vulcanus with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 17:26.40 | TheDarkWizard | I've just contact the author of "Cartographer_nnTrainers" by mail. He told me he don't play WoW or maintain any addon at this time and accept I fix few libs missing into his embed. I already have an acces to the svn. I have to do another thing before start the job ? (contacting an admin for example) |
| 17:27.43 | durcyn | go to town, if you fuck something up we'll yell at you. |
| 17:28.52 | cncfanatics | TheDarkWizard: it seems ur fine |
| 17:29.00 | Tenchworks | if you have the author's permission then your free to continue/repair the project |
| 17:29.03 | Nechckn | durcyn ROFL |
| 17:29.34 | TheDarkWizard | OK, thanks. |
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| 17:30.38 | gmerrick1 | Hello |
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| 17:32.37 | TheDarkWizard | Second ask. I'll looking for someone who can translate my addon "Cleanshot" into an english better than mine. If you are interested, please contact me at the e-mail address indicated in the .toc |
| 17:32.57 | gmerrick1 | Ace2 is giving me an error Interface\Addons\ACE2\Aceoo-2.0\ace00-2.0.lua:734:AceComm-2.0:AceComm-2.0 requires Aceevent-2.0 Where can I get AceEvent 2.0? |
| 17:34.00 | Kulaar | Someone tested Azjol Nerub and can tell me where to after spawn of maexxna? |
| 17:34.01 | Kalroth | http://files.wowace.com/Ace2/ |
| 17:34.04 | Kalroth | gmerrick1: |
| 17:34.34 | gmerrick1 | I just downloaded the lastest Ace2 and popped it in clean and that is the error I get. |
| 17:34.58 | Kalroth | did you put it in the normal addon folder? |
| 17:35.03 | gmerrick1 | yes |
| 17:35.10 | gmerrick1 | after I deleted the old ace2 |
| 17:35.19 | Kalroth | Odd |
| 17:35.44 | Kalroth | Aha |
| 17:36.01 | gmerrick1 | aha?...don't know that addon :) |
| 17:36.03 | Kalroth | Edit Ace2.toc and swap AceOO and AceEvent lines around |
| 17:36.10 | gmerrick1 | urk...kk |
| 17:36.18 | Kalroth | the loading order is |
| 17:36.19 | Kalroth | AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua |
| 17:36.19 | Kalroth | AceOO-2.0\AceOO-2.0.lua |
| 17:36.19 | Kalroth | AceEvent-2.0\AceEvent-2.0.lua |
| 17:36.19 | Kalroth | AceHook-2.1\AceHook-2.1.lua |
| 17:36.27 | Kalroth | which is silly if AceOO requires AceEvent ;) |
| 17:36.46 | Kalroth | oh wait, it's AceComm |
| 17:36.56 | Kalroth | it shouldn't matter then, I guess |
| 17:38.22 | Kalroth | Beats me then, maybe someone else got an idea |
| 17:38.23 | gmerrick1 | ah ok in the TOC file the load order is buggered up |
| 17:38.27 | Kalroth | naw |
| 17:38.36 | Kalroth | it says "AceComm-2.0 requires Aceevent-2.0" |
| 17:38.42 | Kalroth | So the load order should be fine |
| 17:40.24 | gmerrick1 | reloaded wow after change and still get Interface\addons\ace2\ace00-2.0\ace00-2.0:lua734:acecomm-2.0: acecomm2.0 requires aceevent2.0 |
| 17:41.41 | Kalroth | Are you sure it's the latest copy? |
| 17:41.55 | Kalroth | and is that the full error message? |
| 17:42.17 | cncfanatics | ~seen pastamancer |
| 17:42.19 | purl | pastamancer is currently on #wowuidev (7d 12h 30m 42s) #wowace (7d 12h 30m 42s) #curseforge (7d 12h 30m 42s). Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 1d 14h 5m 4s, last said: 'also, which yaml library for python are you using? I'm implementing a similar project metadata file at work'. |
| 17:43.15 | gmerrick1 | Yes I am downloading it directly from files.wowace.com and the file is Ace2-r67789.zip |
| 17:43.39 | Kalroth | http://files.wowace.com/Ace2/Ace2-r78794.zip is the latest |
| 17:45.16 | gmerrick1 | well..that could be part of the problem.... |
| 17:47.19 | Kalroth | going to get something to eat, good luck with your problem |
| 17:47.32 | Primer | Does the WotLK beta rely on knowing the installation path of the standard client? |
| 17:47.41 | Primer | or do we not talk about such things here? |
| 17:47.45 | gmerrick1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.00 | gmerrick1 | From what a guildie told me it's a 1.6GB download |
| 17:48.08 | gmerrick1 | and I think it's seperate |
| 17:48.12 | Primer | separate |
| 17:48.33 | FinalX | TBC used to copy the existing installation and apply the TBC data to it. |
| 17:48.36 | profalbert | it needs a present Burning Crusade installatino though |
| 17:48.49 | profalbert | and the InstallPath has to be set in the registry |
| 17:48.53 | profalbert | (on windows) |
| 17:48.58 | gmerrick1 | WEll using the LATEST version of ACE2 worked. Thanks for the help |
| 17:49.03 | FinalX | so I'm quite sure, as profalbert points out, it'll use the existing data to copy, then patch wotlk over it and run as a seperate copy |
| 17:49.14 | Primer | separate |
| 17:49.26 | Primer | sorry, it's one of my pet peeves |
| 17:49.30 | profalbert | FinalX exactly |
| 17:49.50 | Primer | so the directory containing WotLK is standalone |
| 17:49.54 | FinalX | ..so make sure you have 12GB of disk space to spare :P |
| 17:49.56 | FinalX | yes |
| 17:50.06 | Primer | Me? I never said I had the beta... |
| 17:50.41 | NeoTron | the download is like 1.9 GB |
| 17:50.55 | NeoTron | when installed it will copy your wow install to a new location, adding the additional wotlk data |
| 17:51.01 | cncfanatics | profalbert: thanks for all the help earlyer :D its ready and working with pitbull atm |
| 17:51.16 | profalbert | cncfanatics: nice |
| 17:51.25 | cncfanatics | trying to get it to work with grid now |
| 17:51.45 | profalbert | so PitBull_QuickHealth module inc? |
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| 17:52.02 | ulic | what does QuickHealth do? |
| 17:53.13 | cncfanatics | profalbert: nop, its directly inside the HealthBar module |
| 17:53.27 | cncfanatics | the code enables itself if it finds the QuickHealth lib |
| 17:53.40 | cncfanatics | ulic: same as InstantHealth, but without all the added taint & hacks |
| 17:54.06 | ulic | so basically updates the bars more quickly, so you have a more true idea of health? |
| 17:54.18 | profalbert | purl, QuickHealth is a WoW-Library that updates Health of Units more quickly, since the server sends Health-updates only every ~0.3 seconds. CombatLogEvents are sent more often. |
| 17:54.18 | purl | okay, profalbert |
| 17:54.24 | profalbert | ~QuickHealth |
| 17:54.24 | purl | i guess quickhealth is a WoW-Library that updates Health of Units more quickly, since the server sends Health-updates only every ~0.3 seconds. CombatLogEvents are sent more often. |
| 17:54.30 | ulic | cool. |
| 17:54.46 | ulic | that's what I assumed, but wanted to check. |
| 17:54.49 | cncfanatics | ulic: I got the idea from instanthealth, but the code in there was horrible -.- |
| 17:55.21 | ulic | so you made a library that all addons could use if they wanted to, nice idea. |
| 17:55.45 | yoshimo | ulic, while you are here. how about using GUIDs for fixxing the problem with littlewigs , kaelthas and magisters terrace? kalecgos is there too ;) |
| 17:56.17 | ulic | last I knew, it would take a change to BigWigs to make that work. |
| 17:56.48 | ulic | someday I'll sit down with Funkeh` and hash it out. There are work arounds, but it really requires them to both Little & Big. |
| 17:56.54 | NeoTron | amazing they felt the need to nerf Aftermath |
| 17:57.01 | NeoTron | I don't think I've EVER put points into that talent |
| 17:57.03 | cncfanatics | ulic: the only thing I'm fearing is that the original author will be pissed, so I'm trying to contact him :p |
| 17:57.47 | profalbert | NeoTron: I have 1pt in Aftermath to get down in the tree w/o using fires-skills |
| 17:58.16 | NeoTron | 1there are better filler skills |
| 17:58.23 | NeoTron | like cataclysm |
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| 17:59.28 | NeoTron | I guess for pvp it has a use but can't imagine it's that high priority |
| 17:59.36 | profalbert | I have 5/5 cataclysm |
| 18:00.01 | profalbert | it's acutally good, cause you need less lifetap |
| 18:00.23 | profalbert | I hardly cast Shadow Bolts in arena, so Aftermath is quite useless in PvP too |
| 18:03.35 | NeoTron | profalbert: the idea is, I guess, that destro will become a viable pvp tree |
| 18:03.49 | NeoTron | going up to at least backdraft |
| 18:04.55 | Gagorian | That remains to be seen |
| 18:05.15 | Pkekyo| | lmfao, at a danish soccer cup: a team of 16 year-olds from peru and their coach attacked the referees and their opposing team and bludgeoned them on the field. amongst other things they kicked the ref so hard in the bollocks he fell unconcious to the ground |
| 18:05.47 | cncfanatics | rofl Pkekyo| |
| 18:06.26 | Pkekyo| | same thing happened with a russian team earlier this week |
| 18:07.18 | Dashkal | And people complain that hockey has turned too much into a fight on skates... |
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| 18:08.05 | Pkekyo| | the russians bludgeoned a norwegian team of 16 year-olds for 20 minutes on the field earlier this week whilst the referees fled the field |
| 18:08.08 | Jinto | Hi all |
| 18:08.14 | Pkekyo| | no Jinto |
| 18:08.22 | Jinto | ?_? |
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| 18:08.29 | Pkekyo| | just trying to make you feel at home |
| 18:09.01 | Jinto | Sorry, i don't understand.. i'm can speack a little english |
| 18:09.05 | Jinto | i can* |
| 18:09.26 | Primer | so...wotlk works fine in wine |
| 18:09.47 | Pkekyo| | Jinto: don't worry about me, I'm a moron... don't think I can say it any clearer :p |
| 18:09.59 | Jinto | lol |
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| 18:10.03 | Jinto | ok ;) |
| 18:10.33 | Jinto | This is a World Of Warctaft channel, isnt' it? |
| 18:10.46 | Pkekyo| | well..kinda |
| 18:10.55 | Pkekyo| | mostly addon developers here |
| 18:11.10 | Pkekyo| | but yeah, they play WoW as well |
| 18:11.44 | Jinto | Oh.... i'm trying to put the target's cast bar over mine (with the addon x-perl) |
| 18:11.47 | Zyndrome | no its a channel for people plotting against destroying humanity |
| 18:12.01 | Pkekyo| | Zyndrome: shush, it's a secret :P |
| 18:12.08 | Jinto | Lol |
| 18:12.21 | Jinto | By the way.... anyone know how i can do that? |
| 18:12.35 | Pkekyo| | can't help you with x-perl Jinto, but stick around for a while, maybe someone who knows will show up |
| 18:13.13 | cncfanatics | profalbert: hmmm, what would be the best distribution name LibQuickHealth or just QuickHealth ? |
| 18:13.18 | NeoTron | xperl only has cast bars on its frames does it not? i.e no way to put the cast bar somewhere else |
| 18:13.30 | Pkekyo| | cncfanatics: add lib if it's a lib :P |
| 18:13.38 | NeoTron | would need something like Quartz if you want cast bars you can move independantly of the unit frames |
| 18:13.49 | Jinto | Oh.... |
| 18:14.16 | NeoTron | although not 100% sure I believe that is the case |
| 18:14.19 | Jinto | but i need to move the "target's cast bar", my cast bar is already at the normal position (with some option on x-perl) |
| 18:14.51 | Pkekyo| | think it's connected to the target frame if NeoTron's right |
| 18:15.08 | Pkekyo| | in that case, you would have to move the entire frame |
| 18:15.47 | Jinto | Oh... when i can enter on the game i try something like that... at the moment i'm re-installing World Of Warcraft |
| 18:15.54 | Pkekyo| | I FUCKING HATE RAVENHOLM |
| 18:16.10 | Jinto | ravenholm = ? |
| 18:16.17 | Pkekyo| | a level in Half-Life 2 :) |
| 18:16.20 | Dashkal | Pkekyo|: AGREED |
| 18:16.40 | Pkekyo| | even though it's a wow channel, we spout out unrelated shit as well :p |
| 18:16.57 | Dashkal | That bloddy level made me jump out of my skin so many times |
| 18:17.00 | Pkekyo| | don't get me wrong, it's a great piece of level design...just such a fucking pain to play through it the gazillionth time |
| 18:17.18 | Pkekyo| | I just wanna skip it so I can get the car :p |
| 18:17.21 | Dashkal | At least it's easier when you can pre-aim your shotgun where they're coming from |
| 18:17.50 | Pkekyo| | shame you don't always have that luxury |
| 18:17.59 | Jinto | Uhm... anyone use the hunter? |
| 18:18.02 | Pkekyo| | I -hate- those speedy fuckers |
| 18:18.54 | Dashkal | Pkekyo|: I got good at taking them out mid-jump :p |
| 18:19.04 | Jinto | Guys, sorry but i must go to dinner, bye all |
| 18:19.05 | Dashkal | Timed it just right so they took the whole blast at max range for that |
| 18:19.21 | Dashkal | Unfortunately, max range for that is about three yards... |
| 18:19.56 | Pkekyo| | out of shotgun ammo...I'm fucked |
| 18:20.48 | Dashkal | Oh yeah, you get just enough to not miss |
| 18:21.03 | Dashkal | or else play with the grav and machine gun.... Either hard or not very effective |
| 18:22.54 | Pkekyo| | out of pistol ammo :P |
| 18:23.21 | Pkekyo| | out of revolver ammo...fuck me sideways |
| 18:23.36 | Dashkal | revolver... my favorite sniper rifle :p |
| 18:24.01 | Dashkal | but zombies take a good amount of impact damage. So the grav gun is at least effective if you can lob |
| 18:24.35 | Pkekyo| | those posonous headcrabs are the fucking worst manmade thing ever |
| 18:25.05 | Dashkal | oh dear god I hate black headcrabs and zombies |
| 18:25.35 | Dashkal | zombies especially. Bastards don't go down easy |
| 18:25.40 | Pkekyo| | aye, I'm trying to take out those with my crowbar now :/ |
| 18:25.44 | Pkekyo| | ran out of everything else |
| 18:25.52 | Dashkal | grav |
| 18:26.07 | Dashkal | find something heavy like a radiator and pingpong it off of them |
| 18:26.30 | Pkekyo| | Im outside, ran out of barrels :p |
| 18:27.12 | Dashkal | ouch |
| 18:27.16 | Dashkal | you be in trouble :p |
| 18:27.36 | Dashkal | Might wanna work on your aim :p |
| 18:29.06 | cncfanatics | anyone knows when pastamancer usualy comes around ? |
| 18:29.24 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: I'm haven't slept for days x) |
| 18:29.36 | Dashkal | you know? That might be part of your problem :p |
| 18:30.08 | Pkekyo| | duh :p |
| 18:30.16 | Pkekyo| | standing on that goddamn roof, waiting for them to climb it no |
| 18:30.17 | Pkekyo| | w |
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| 18:33.14 | Dashkal | yeah, I save shotgun ammo for that |
| 18:33.21 | Dashkal | dead easy when you can, you know, shoot them off the pipes :p |
| 18:34.36 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 18:35.04 | Dashkal | First time I played that I didn't even think of that |
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| 18:35.17 | Dashkal | I was sitting in the middle of the roof going "Oh shit oh shit oh shit they're comming!" |
| 18:35.58 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 18:36.48 | yoshimo | chatter seems to hide the button for choosing the language . how do i talk in thalassian without the button? |
| 18:37.16 | ulic | think there are slash cmds |
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| 18:43.13 | Arrowmaster | Pkekyo|: ravenholm is easy if you take your time and bring a stack of sawblades with you |
| 18:44.01 | Primer | Ok, so it's definitely ok to talk about WotLK beta on IRC, right? |
| 18:44.10 | kenlyric | you don't have to bring them |
| 18:44.11 | Primer | I'd hate to be violating an NDA |
| 18:44.14 | kenlyric | they are provided |
| 18:44.17 | Zyndrome | what NDA? :p |
| 18:44.19 | sb | wtf |
| 18:44.50 | kenlyric | ravenholm is one of the most astounding game experiences I have ever had. |
| 18:45.00 | Arrowmaster | i liked it |
| 18:45.11 | ShaneSveller | there is no NDA |
| 18:45.14 | Arrowmaster | but i had a stack of 30 sawblades on the wall near me at all time |
| 18:45.14 | Xuerian|Zzz | kenlyric: Indeed |
| 18:45.19 | Arrowmaster | so nothing got close to me |
| 18:45.25 | Primer | I just want to be sure |
| 18:45.32 | kenlyric | it made me want to strangle doom3. "THIS is how you do it" |
| 18:45.34 | Xuerian | I ran out of ammo at one point... |
| 18:45.38 | sb | muru isnt fun anymore :/ |
| 18:45.45 | cncfanatics | sb: explain |
| 18:45.53 | sb | i have no idea how you can do this with 6 healers |
| 18:45.59 | NeoTron | sb: you can do it with 7 |
| 18:46.07 | NeoTron | sb: .. after the HP nerf |
| 18:46.12 | Zyndrome | Episode 2 ... you descend into this huge cave to get some funky glowy stuff ... and all of a sudden, it's just you and an angry antlion guard on your tail |
| 18:46.19 | Zyndrome | HL2:Ep2 :p |
| 18:46.20 | kenlyric | running! |
| 18:46.22 | sb | well 1 pally isnt enough for bloodelf tank :/ |
| 18:46.28 | Zyndrome | I think I shat bricks in that part |
| 18:46.30 | sb | and that makes it pretty hard |
| 18:46.35 | kenlyric | oh shit, run is an amazing level tactic |
| 18:46.37 | Primer | So, riding crop is now an enchant |
| 18:46.49 | Primer | single use...yet, I have 2 mounts |
| 18:46.58 | Arrowmaster | kenlyric: i think i killed the antlion guard and found out it respawns or something |
| 18:46.59 | Primer | outland mount, non-outland mount |
| 18:47.04 | kenlyric | how |
| 18:47.11 | kenlyric | that mofo wouldn't die |
| 18:47.34 | Arrowmaster | dont remember |
| 18:47.40 | Zyndrome | running down the caves and hear this badum-badum-badum come closer and closer, breathing down your neck ... *panic* |
| 18:47.49 | NeoTron | sb: 1 pally + 1 chain healing raid heal shaman |
| 18:47.55 | NeoTron | with the shaman healing off the tank |
| 18:48.00 | sb | hmyep |
| 18:48.16 | sb | so raid has to be close to that tank |
| 18:48.16 | kenlyric | i get the creeps with the bugs |
| 18:48.17 | NeoTron | it's still a really hard fight |
| 18:48.23 | kenlyric | and that level was like one long creep |
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| 18:50.21 | NeoTron | oh and Timemachine is a smoking hot application |
| 18:50.30 | NeoTron | if you don't know it's the MacOS X backup solution |
| 18:50.48 | Xuerian | We -ALL- know. |
| 18:50.58 | Xuerian | It was so over-advertized, it makes me want to gouge my eyes out. |
| 18:51.00 | Xuerian | .. then use it. |
| 18:51.01 | Dashkal | mac vs pc comercials |
| 18:51.18 | kenlyric | I'm hoping for a distinct lack of bugs in ep3 |
| 18:51.18 | Dashkal | Well thank you PC. Yeah thank you. Thank you. Thank you... *stab* |
| 18:51.47 | Dashkal | [EP2] Oh fuck I hate those caves so fucking much |
| 18:51.55 | Dashkal | I can't do them. I get too creeped out |
| 18:52.16 | Dashkal | Nevermind the antlions, the workers, or even the guard. It's the grubs |
| 18:52.51 | Xuerian | I hate grub-like parasites ever since the Wrath of Kahn |
| 18:52.53 | Xuerian | >_> |
| 18:52.54 | Dashkal | I've been tempted to make a quick mod of the game that despawns every bloddy one of them just so I can play |
| 18:52.59 | Primer | Pardon my newbness, but I've only ever played wow with addons...but...is there a way to bind keys to the default actions bars? |
| 18:53.03 | cncfanatics | hmmmm, whats the exact policy on commiting in other people repos ? |
| 18:53.12 | Dashkal | Primer: key bindings menu |
| 18:53.13 | Primer | without an addon? |
| 18:53.35 | Xuerian | Primer: You can by default. Look at the keybinding menu like Dashkal said |
| 18:53.38 | Primer | ugh, that's terrible |
| 18:53.41 | Primer | thanks |
| 18:53.47 | NeoTron | Xuerian: it actually IS that good though. that's the amazing thing |
| 18:54.09 | kenlyric | you mean how they wiggle and squish |
| 18:54.20 | Xuerian | (I haven't actually played ep1/2) |
| 18:54.22 | kenlyric | I actually don't mind headcrabs. They're the right amount of creepiness |
| 18:54.24 | NeoTron | good use of unix hardlinks to make full snapshots |
| 18:54.54 | Xuerian | kenlyric: Yeah, they're ok. Till you get Stage 3 zombies coming up the drain pipes |
| 18:54.59 | kenlyric | but the antlions are hard, since they fly and sound like those little ladybug parasites. |
| 18:55.00 | Xuerian | Then.... then it's freaky |
| 18:55.11 | kenlyric | I like the fast zombies. |
| 18:55.14 | kenlyric | they scream |
| 18:55.29 | Xuerian | What a way to get welcomed to ravenholm |
| 18:55.31 | Dashkal | wiggle, squish, big maw... EWWWWWWWWWWW |
| 18:55.53 | Dashkal | Damnit, I just gave myself the creeps again |
| 18:56.10 | Dashkal | And the really annoying part is if you skip the bug caves you miss a major plot point (don't ask what, I won't spoil) |
| 18:56.30 | kenlyric | how do you skip things in half life? |
| 18:56.36 | kenlyric | I didn't know it was possible |
| 18:56.39 | Arrowmaster | console |
| 18:56.50 | Dashkal | Console or a config tweak so it thinks you've beaten the game already |
| 18:57.00 | kenlyric | I always knew console was terrible |
| 18:57.02 | Dashkal | I did the tweak so I wouldn't have to flag my save as cheating |
| 18:57.05 | kenlyric | never skip anything in half life :) |
| 18:57.31 | Dashkal | I want my lil achievements :p |
| 18:58.04 | Dashkal | But I'll never get the gnome in space, the grubs, or "Into the breach", sadly |
| 18:58.58 | Arrowmaster | i missed like 2 fucking grubs |
| 19:00.01 | kenlyric | gnome in space is insane like exalted darkmoon faire |
| 19:01.47 | Dashkal | I want to get it, but I know I can't handle the section in the caves where you get chased into a grub burrow and get face to face with one |
| 19:10.55 | Primer | Heh, Amplify Curse does not exist in my spellbook |
| 19:11.59 | NivFreak | did you talent it? |
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| 19:15.26 | Daemoen | hey guys, is there an updater for mac out yet? :-D wau is limited to windows... think the jau might work, should in theory, but not certain |
| 19:15.36 | cncfanatics | Daemoen: jau works just fine |
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| 19:16.45 | Primer | yes, I have the talent, and the trainer doesn't have anything I don't know |
| 19:16.54 | p3lim | name a good buff addon that supports ButtonFacade |
| 19:18.15 | Kuosi | bollo? |
| 19:19.25 | cncfanatics | does anyone know of pastamancer would mind if I comitted a change to grid ? |
| 19:19.47 | Daemoen | thank heavens for mbp being a nice platform or id have crappy fps right now :-D |
| 19:20.00 | Xuerian | If it doesn't break anything and you've thoroughly tested it, seems like he wouldn't mind, cnc |
| 19:20.21 | Xuerian | (Perhaps if/doesn't should be swapped, there..) |
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| 19:22.23 | Hjalte | Tekkub: Is MakeRocketGoNow release-ready soon? |
| 19:22.41 | Tekkub | sometime today |
| 19:22.47 | Tekkub | doing work currently |
| 19:24.33 | Diao | p3lim: SBF supports buttonfacade |
| 19:24.41 | p3lim | thanks |
| 19:24.49 | Hjalte | p3lim: Buffalo does too, I believe |
| 19:25.05 | Diao | so uh |
| 19:25.10 | Diao | about this instant health mod people were talking about yesterday |
| 19:25.12 | Diao | does it affect all frames |
| 19:25.19 | Diao | or can you force it to only specific ufs |
| 19:25.29 | Hjalte | It affects all frames I believe. |
| 19:25.46 | Hjalte | There is a grid-instant health addon too, that only affects Grid. |
| 19:26.01 | TNSe | .. |
| 19:26.05 | Diao | works on the same concept? |
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| 19:28.10 | Kuosi | i use the instant health one and works fine with grid |
| 19:28.27 | Hjalte | Diao: I think they do the same thing |
| 19:28.38 | Diao | yeah but i don't want it to affect my normal ufs Kuosi :P |
| 19:28.49 | Diao | cause from what i read it won't update non-group members properly |
| 19:29.04 | Hjalte | Tekkub: I like the Quicklaunch concept, I hope more addons will add support for it. |
| 19:29.09 | Antiarc | http://www.zombieharmony.com/ |
| 19:29.18 | VonhintenHOME` | What's this instant health mod? |
| 19:29.28 | Tekkub | as do I |
| 19:29.40 | Tekkub | minimap herpes are sooooooo molten core |
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| 19:31.09 | Hjalte | Tekkub: I use one of those minimap-button cluster addons right now, but hopefully, in the future, I can use a Quicklaunch LDB addon to achieve the same. |
| 19:31.30 | Tekkub | the hard part is convincing people NOT to make a minimap button |
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| 19:31.45 | Tekkub | they like to think they're so important they need one up by default |
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| 19:32.09 | Hjalte | If I am able to turn it off, I don't see it as a great problem, as long as they make a LDB button as well. |
| 19:33.01 | Tekkub | it's not a huge problem, no... but the intent of LDB launchers is to replace the need to make your own button in the first place |
| 19:33.02 | NeoTron | should add support to LDB to my addons |
| 19:33.08 | Tekkub | yes |
| 19:33.59 | [Liquidor] | Wondering, what's LDB again? |
| 19:34.47 | Diao | VonhintenHOME`: provides instant health updates based on combat log damage instead of the slightly delayed server unit_health updates |
| 19:35.18 | qwesto | ~ldb |
| 19:35.19 | purl | ldb is, like, a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 19:35.26 | qwesto | [Liquidor], ^ |
| 19:37.03 | [Liquidor] | So yet another library? |
| 19:37.29 | Dashkal | Inter-operability is good |
| 19:39.14 | Aeyan | Bleh, first feature I look for in a minimap addon is minimap button removal =P |
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| 19:39.48 | Aeyan | Not sure what the launcher stuff is I've been hearing recently, but then again I haven't played around with any of the LDB stuff either |
| 19:40.00 | Aeyan | Got rid of all fubar/stat tools a while ago |
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| 19:40.35 | Dashkal | If you have no interest in fubar/style stat addons, you'll prolly have no interest in LDB from a user perspective |
| 19:40.58 | Aeyan | Yeah, I know what LDB is for |
| 19:41.53 | Dashkal | I'll support it as a developer, but I have little interest as a user. FuBar does enough. Maybe it it (and the stat modules I depend on) don't stay maintained in 3.X |
| 19:42.44 | Aeyan | Eh, I'd only add those type of modules again if I could figure out a eye pleasing way to insert them into my GUI, hehe |
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| 19:43.20 | Dashkal | If one of the displayers starts supporting grouping and auto-hide by group, I'll be very very interested. |
| 19:45.57 | ulic | other than the old modules, I don't see why people don't like fubar, provided of course they want some kinda of data display at all. |
| 19:46.05 | NeoTron | the main benefit of LDB is that it, in theory, will work for any "display" addon the user wants |
| 19:46.14 | Aeyan | ^ That |
| 19:46.19 | Aeyan | Nothing wrong with fubar at all |
| 19:46.28 | NeoTron | vs having to add FuBar support (iffy with ace3 anyway), Titan support, StatBlocks support, Armory support etc |
| 19:46.37 | Dashkal | ulic: I don't dislike fubar. I just want to break up my display modules for a nifty UI design I'm pondering. And making 6 or 7 bars doesn't appeal to me |
| 19:46.40 | Aeyan | LDB is just a nicer system |
| 19:47.11 | NeoTron | does fubar have LDB support yet or will someone work on fixing that? :P |
| 19:47.15 | Dashkal | Though at some point someone (maybe me if I get bored enough) should make a displayer for fubar so LDB stuff works with it |
| 19:47.20 | NeoTron | I want to rip out all traces of fubar from my addons if possible |
| 19:47.29 | Aeyan | I don't believe it does, yet |
| 19:47.47 | ulic | I think there is an LDBtoFuBar addon. |
| 19:47.48 | Dashkal | ckknight will accept patches, but hasn't indicated any desire to do it himself |
| 19:48.03 | ulic | oh no, it's fubar to ldb maybe. |
| 19:48.08 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/207/7/2/Hills_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- picture of the day |
| 19:48.09 | NeoTron | I'll probably just keep FuBar_MagicMarker but add LDB support into MagicMarker so it's not needed |
| 19:48.11 | Dashkal | there's a fubar to ldb yes |
| 19:48.28 | Daemoen | hey guys, anyone know of a paging system that allows you to repeat the same keybindings over and over with different sets? |
| 19:48.45 | NeoTron | Daemoen: you mean action bars? |
| 19:48.55 | VonhintenHOME` | What's LDB? |
| 19:48.57 | NeoTron | or what is "different sets"? |
| 19:49.03 | NeoTron | ~ldb |
| 19:49.03 | purl | [ldb] a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
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| 19:49.14 | Daemoen | NeoTron: like.. right now, I use bartender, and I generally use my attacks as keys 1-7 |
| 19:49.20 | Daemoen | but i have a couple different setups id like |
| 19:49.44 | TheDarkWizard | Re hello. I'm currently trying to fix bug into "Cartographer_nnTrainers" and "Fubar_TrainerFu" and I believe it was a error into Babble-Tradeskill-2.2 "Riding" is missing for frFR I localy add ["Riding"] = "Monte", at the line 7667, it seems ok now. Have I to mail ckknight or this message is enough ? |
| 19:50.05 | Daemoen | so id like to be something like... alt+f1 = 1-7 set 1, alt+f2 = 1-7 set 2, etc |
| 19:50.08 | TheDarkWizard | Sorry, at the ligne 4667 |
| 19:51.00 | Daemoen | does that make sense? |
| 19:51.08 | qwesto | Daemoen, it's in default ui, you can set keybindings to change page on the main action bar |
| 19:51.25 | NeoTron | Daemoen: bartender has paging support |
| 19:51.31 | Daemoen | qwesto: right... and how many people do you know of that use the default bars? |
| 19:51.35 | Pneumatus | anyone know if theres a version of grid thats been fiddled with to work on wotlk hidden anywhere? |
| 19:51.37 | qwesto | works for me with bartender aswell :) |
| 19:51.54 | p3lim | whats with SatrinaBuffFrames(2.8.8) and two buff frames? |
| 19:51.55 | Daemoen | NeoTron: from what ive seen, it requires you to press alt or a modifier key, or am i misunderstanding it? |
| 19:51.57 | p3lim | one buff other debuff? |
| 19:52.17 | qwesto | have two different setups for my 1-10 keys on my druid, switches to one with crtl-u and to the other with shift-u |
| 19:52.35 | NeoTron | hehe http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/cat110.html <-- can see that antiarc is in wotlk |
| 19:52.45 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 19:52.47 | Daemoen | ahhh |
| 19:52.49 | Antiarc | I was in alpha >_> |
| 19:52.51 | NeoTron | Daemoen: see what qwesto said, bind keys to swap |
| 19:52.55 | Daemoen | guess ill have to look up how paging works |
| 19:53.17 | NeoTron | Antiarc: I guess this means properly working ace3 in beta which is a nice start |
| 19:53.25 | Pneumatus | yup, and im loving Chatter, think i might even ditch Prat for it |
| 19:53.26 | NeoTron | is it true that in alpha you couldn't use any 3rd party addons? |
| 19:53.26 | Antiarc | Yeah, only a few fixes were required |
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| 19:54.57 | NeoTron | bet unit frame addons will be interesting considering the whole new concept from the DK's |
| 19:55.21 | Daemoen | ok, so now that i see how the action bars themselves work... is there any way of displaying the action bars through bt3, instead of just the bt3 bars? |
| 19:55.28 | ulic | shouldn't be too bad, just need some type of 2nd power bar. |
| 19:55.30 | Daemoen | like.. i want bt3 bar2 to be action bar 2 :-D |
| 19:55.40 | Diao | uh |
| 19:55.44 | Diao | i think it is, by default |
| 19:55.52 | NeoTron | ulic: runes + runic power |
| 19:56.08 | NeoTron | runic power is easy but need rune display similar to, I guess, rogue combo points |
| 19:56.09 | VonhintenHOME` | pitbull has 2 mana-ish bars for Druids already |
| 19:56.20 | NeoTron | runes is not a mana bar though |
| 19:56.27 | Daemoen | Diao: yeap... guess so, now comes the part of figuring out how to handle the keybindings for different action bars using the same buttons, lol |
| 19:56.28 | NeoTron | it's 2x3 "tokens" |
| 19:56.29 | VonhintenHOME` | one for energy/rage, the other for estimated mana |
| 19:56.36 | ulic | NeoTron: yea, could use a bar type display for the runes, but I guess not exactly. and they have cooldowns. Could maybe do it like Totem Timers module. |
| 19:56.38 | Diao | what do you mean Daemoen? |
| 19:57.00 | NeoTron | Daemoen: change the "page" of an action bar to get new "actions" with the same key bindings |
| 19:57.13 | Diao | p3lim: sbf frame 1 is buffs, frame 2 is debuffs |
| 19:57.22 | p3lim | ait |
| 19:57.27 | p3lim | should say so :/ |
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| 19:57.46 | Daemoen | ahhh, thats what i was missing, lol. thats what I couldnt figure out :-D didnt now how paging worked, lol |
| 19:57.51 | Diao | well p3lim you can create more buff groups or change them around.. that's just how it is by default |
| 19:58.04 | p3lim | default is good :) |
| 19:58.06 | Diao | oh paging |
| 19:58.12 | p3lim | you using SBF? |
| 19:58.17 | Diao | yep i do |
| 19:58.32 | p3lim | Any way to remove the "glow" that indicates what dispel color a debuff is? |
| 19:58.43 | p3lim | and rather use backdrop coloring |
| 19:59.12 | Diao | hmm |
| 19:59.17 | Diao | glow? |
| 19:59.20 | Diao | like the border glow? |
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| 19:59.43 | p3lim | no the glow is kinda inside the icon |
| 19:59.59 | Diao | er |
| 20:00.00 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:00.02 | Diao | never noticed it myself |
| 20:00.19 | Diao | oh |
| 20:00.20 | Diao | in timers |
| 20:00.25 | Diao | "color debuff timer by type"? |
| 20:00.30 | Diao | or is that just the numbers |
| 20:00.45 | Diao | yeah nm that appears to just be the timers |
| 20:00.47 | p3lim | just numbers |
| 20:00.56 | Diao | umm.. i never noticed the timers actually getting colored |
| 20:00.59 | Diao | since i use bf with it |
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| 20:01.46 | p3lim | i use bf too |
| 20:01.51 | p3lim | what skin? |
| 20:02.07 | Diao | caith with 50% glow |
| 20:02.16 | Diao | er, gloss |
| 20:03.10 | p3lim | k |
| 20:03.24 | p3lim | skin didnt seem to change anything (i use my own skin, DreamZoom) |
| 20:03.30 | Diao | hmm |
| 20:03.33 | Diao | how are you testing the debuffs |
| 20:03.39 | Diao | dueling or something? |
| 20:05.12 | p3lim | http://i37.tinypic.com/1zqscvm.jpg |
| 20:05.26 | p3lim | running over to scryers to get banished :p |
| 20:05.46 | p3lim | its a glow, instead of backdrop coloring |
| 20:05.50 | p3lim | which is what i want |
| 20:07.25 | Stanzilla | that font looks crappy with the outline :O |
| 20:07.30 | Diao | oh |
| 20:07.33 | Diao | i have no idea how to change it |
| 20:07.34 | Diao | lol |
| 20:07.37 | Diao | not sure if it's even an option :s |
| 20:08.38 | p3lim | bleh |
| 20:08.49 | p3lim | cause that glow looks like shit |
| 20:09.52 | Daemoen | how would you set a macro to cast a spell on a specific person... thought you could specify targets in macros :-D |
| 20:10.36 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.38 | Antiarc | I think? |
| 20:10.51 | cncfanatics | target= takes a unitid iirc |
| 20:11.05 | Antiarc | player names are valid unit IDs if they're in your group |
| 20:11.16 | Daemoen | not grouped. |
| 20:11.24 | Antiarc | won't work if you're not grouped |
| 20:11.46 | Antiarc | best you can do is set a focus and [target=focus] |
| 20:11.56 | nevcairiel | or simply /target <name> |
| 20:11.58 | nevcairiel | and click twice |
| 20:11.59 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 20:12.21 | Primer | hrmm, it seems there's no way to bind keys to pet actions in the keybindings menu |
| 20:12.26 | Diao | there are |
| 20:12.33 | Diao | it's called secondary action button |
| 20:12.34 | Trell_ | special action button 1 |
| 20:12.38 | Diao | special action is something else |
| 20:12.39 | Trell_ | or that ^ |
| 20:12.40 | Diao | stance bar |
| 20:12.49 | Trell_ | I knew it was one of them |
| 20:14.51 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: BigWigs_Naxxramas-2.0\Gluth.lua:187: attempt to index global 'db' (a nil value) |
| 20:15.02 | Primer | ok, thanks |
| 20:15.13 | Funkeh` | k |
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| 20:29.20 | vithos | nevcairiel: you can /target and /cast in a macro without needing to click twice |
| 20:30.08 | kagaro | vithos: yes |
| 20:31.16 | kagaro | cat [target=xxx] works well |
| 20:31.22 | kagaro | s/cat/cast/ |
| 20:31.41 | kagaro | you can also do a target blahh then a cast blahh |
| 20:31.53 | NivFreak | do players have unitids? |
| 20:31.58 | kagaro | but only 1 cast |
| 20:32.34 | kagaro | NivFreak: like play, party1 raid1 etc.. |
| 20:32.46 | NivFreak | ah |
| 20:32.46 | vithos | target=Name only works for friends though, in your group |
| 20:33.09 | kagaro | vithos: you could do /target somename then a /cast someSpell |
| 20:33.36 | ulic | I do that for earth shield. have kind of priority list of tanks to cast it on. |
| 20:33.39 | vithos | right. that's what i do, like these: http://pastey.net/92451 |
| 20:34.23 | vithos | er, i left an extra /tar in the first one it seems. |
| 20:34.40 | Diao | yeah |
| 20:34.42 | Diao | i was gonna ask |
| 20:34.47 | Diao | why would you tell it to target 2 different things |
| 20:35.08 | vithos | for a targetting priority |
| 20:35.33 | Diao | last one has highest priority? |
| 20:35.36 | vithos | before i decided it was better to just have two macros for that fight |
| 20:35.57 | vithos | yeah |
| 20:37.49 | vithos | like for the lynx boss in za, /tar halazzi /tar corrupted lightning totem (might have spelled them wrong) |
| 20:38.07 | vithos | so i can just hit the macro whenever i need to change targets and i always get the right target |
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| 20:51.33 | Trell_ | vithos - grab IHML |
| 20:51.35 | Trell_ | best addon ever |
| 20:51.46 | vithos | i used to use it |
| 20:51.48 | Trell_ | 'I Have Macro Lol' |
| 20:51.51 | Trell_ | orly |
| 20:51.57 | Trell_ | so why don't you still use it |
| 20:52.00 | Trell_ | its awesome. |
| 20:52.25 | Primer | IHML is indeed one of the best addons ever |
| 20:52.37 | vithos | the bossmod based swapping only happens the first time you approach the boss |
| 20:52.45 | Camci | IHML = ? |
| 20:52.48 | Trell_ | ? |
| 20:52.50 | Trell_ | works fine for me |
| 20:52.53 | eliteevil | ~IHML |
| 20:52.54 | purl | I Have Macro Lol! An addon to automagically switch a macro depending on zone or BigWigs boss module. http://www.wowace.com/wiki/IHML |
| 20:53.05 | vithos | it swaps when the bossmod gets loaded in bigwigs |
| 20:53.10 | Trell_ | never had any problems with it, except some dodgy switching issues when doing the mana remnants sunewell isle quest |
| 20:53.11 | Camci | i see |
| 20:53.14 | vithos | and it only gets loaded once per session |
| 20:53.19 | Camci | useless for me :p |
| 20:53.38 | vithos | so when i wipe in sunwell, and run through the sunwell island area as a ghost running back to the instance, i get daily macros instead |
| 20:53.44 | vithos | and it never swaps back to the boss one |
| 20:54.35 | vithos | so i couldn't use that feature, then i did it by subzone i.e. m'uru's room |
| 20:54.50 | vithos | someone ninjapulls before i step over the threshold, and it doesn't get swapped |
| 20:56.00 | vithos | it's a nice idea, and honestly i'll probably reinstall it now, it just needs very thoughtful configuration in order to not surprise you |
| 20:56.22 | vithos | and surprises aren't good in raid encounters |
| 20:57.17 | ZealotOnAStick | Tekkub: testes? |
| 20:57.52 | Primer | http://www.wegame.com/watch/Thrall_s_Crib/ bwahahaha that's awesome |
| 20:58.49 | vithos | hmm.. where is IHML. i could swear it was on wowace |
| 20:59.14 | EthanCentaurai | vithos: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/12698/ |
| 20:59.22 | Primer | do you not use jwu/wau? "Install new addon" |
| 20:59.27 | vithos | i use jwu |
| 20:59.38 | vithos | and it's on files.wowace.com, but not in the install list |
| 20:59.43 | vithos | weird |
| 21:00.15 | vithos | oh because it's already installed |
| 21:00.19 | Primer | heh |
| 21:00.34 | Tekkub | ZealotOnAStick, 1, 2, 3? |
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| 21:23.54 | Pkekyo| | FUCKING FINALLY FINISHED RAVENHOLM <3 |
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| 21:40.30 | fewyn | strange, alt clicking no longer adds an item to my wishlist in atlasloot >_> |
| 21:42.00 | Dashkal | Pkekyo|: I take it you put it down awhile... Considering that roof is about 10 minutes from the end |
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| 21:51.24 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: went afk :P |
| 21:51.36 | Pkekyo| | I also consider those caves with all the headhumpers a part of ravenholm |
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| 21:54.20 | Dashkal | Me too |
| 21:54.21 | Pkekyo| | I hate that cave beneath ravenholm |
| 21:54.24 | Pkekyo| | always have, always will |
| 21:54.35 | Dashkal | erm? Head down slowly, pistol until the main buk is dead, run like hell |
| 21:54.40 | aestil | omg, did someone put right click on omen to configure AND pullout threat bars? |
| 21:55.16 | Pkekyo| | Dashkal: never did it that way, I've -always- fallen straight to the ground level there :p |
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| 21:55.40 | Dashkal | oh no, ride the girders. You can get up on some of those catwalks if you do it that way. Some grenades up on one of them too |
| 21:56.01 | Pkekyo| | yeah, I did it this time |
| 21:56.09 | Pkekyo| | spent all my damn ammo on shooting headhumpers xD |
| 21:56.21 | Dashkal | take your time, they can't get to you ever up there |
| 21:56.46 | Pkekyo| | they can...I was sitting on the catwalks |
| 21:56.50 | Pkekyo| | they had a hard time though |
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| 21:59.18 | Stanzilla | [Sir Zeliek] [Holy Wrath] hit [You] 510976 Holy. >.< |
| 21:59.29 | Gnarfoz | w00t. |
| 21:59.29 | Pkekyo| | I love mindfuck photography :p |
| 22:00.10 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 22:03.05 | Ackis | ~api SetTextColor |
| 22:03.05 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetTextColor |
| 22:03.49 | p3lim | hm how can I access TimeManagerClockButtons |
| 22:04.00 | p3lim | - texture |
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| 22:07.20 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.37 | Matrix110 | I dont even want to think about it |
| 22:07.42 | Pkekyo| | Neothor: everyone there is? :p |
| 22:08.00 | Matrix110 | I just stop raiding in WotLK cba to deal with half the guild going DK |
| 22:08.00 | NeoTron | I think we'll have 3 guaranteed spots |
| 22:08.04 | NeoTron | and two of them will be leaders |
| 22:08.12 | allen | just make a rogue and mage go DK |
| 22:08.15 | Daemoen | has the whole waypoint block arrow issue been resolved yet? |
| 22:08.29 | allen | and maybe a warlock np ^^ |
| 22:08.32 | NeoTron | one is a rogue, the other (possible undecided yet) one is me (lock) |
| 22:08.32 | Daemoen | ( for c3 i mean ) |
| 22:08.40 | Diao | everyone in my guild is going dk |
| 22:08.42 | Diao | to "try" it |
| 22:08.47 | NeoTron | well that is fari |
| 22:08.49 | Diao | but most of them want to just try it, not to play as main |
| 22:08.50 | NeoTron | everyone should try it |
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| 22:09.01 | NeoTron | it's who starts wotlk playing their DK instead of their main |
| 22:09.06 | allen | atleast to put herbalism on it :p |
| 22:09.13 | syeren | Funkeh`, could you help me for a couple of minutes please :P? |
| 22:09.43 | syeren | I downloaded LibDataBroker (I think), but there is no .toc in the directory :/ |
| 22:10.52 | Matrix110 | LibDataBroker is only embedable |
| 22:11.38 | syeren | I've just read that :P |
| 22:11.39 | syeren | >_< |
| 22:11.53 | syeren | Thank you :p |
| 22:14.46 | Pkekyo| | anyone experienced with msn tarding up here? |
| 22:14.49 | Pkekyo| | - more than usual, that is |
| 22:15.27 | NeoTron | I figure |
| 22:15.33 | NeoTron | worse case we'll go down to 10 man raiding |
| 22:16.22 | allen | the dk addition isn't going to be worse than moving from 40man raiding to 25man |
| 22:16.34 | Diao | oh yeah p3lim i was in bgs.. my debuffs only get colored borders |
| 22:16.37 | allen | 40man->25man+shaman/paladin* ;p |
| 22:16.44 | NeoTron | sure it will he |
| 22:16.56 | NeoTron | then if 5-10 ppl left you were still ok |
| 22:17.02 | allen | depends on the guild i guess |
| 22:17.10 | NeoTron | DK is new and exciting and you can't have 4711 of them |
| 22:17.18 | p3lim | Diao: borders or a glow? |
| 22:17.21 | NeoTron | I fully expect losing maybe 5-10 people to DK's that can't raid with us |
| 22:17.33 | NeoTron | it's fine if ppl change class as long as they realize the consequences |
| 22:17.41 | aestil | on the armory, where does it show how much spell haste you have? |
| 22:18.01 | Diao | just the borders |
| 22:18.02 | Diao | no glow |
| 22:18.38 | NeoTron | biggest issue being not necessarily "playing favorite" but ppl accusing you of that and then being disgruntled |
| 22:20.44 | Pkekyo| | then choose someone that's a good player, but -everyone- hates...eliminates your problem :P |
| 22:20.55 | Diao | lol |
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| 22:21.09 | Pkekyo| | also... Diao: NO GLO?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
| 22:21.25 | Diao | lol |
| 22:21.26 | Diao | yep |
| 22:21.34 | Pkekyo| | did you see the forums back then? :P |
| 22:21.48 | Pkekyo| | EU druid forums...pure mayhem |
| 22:21.53 | CIA-45 | 03toadkiller * r79133 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
| 22:21.53 | CIA-45 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 22:21.53 | CIA-45 | - Add teleport scroll to misc.hearth. |
| 22:22.00 | Zhinjio | Ackis: ping |
| 22:22.03 | Diao | oh |
| 22:22.04 | Diao | i don't read EU |
| 22:22.08 | Pkekyo| | aah |
| 22:22.21 | Diao | unless someone links me to a post specifically, that is. |
| 22:22.45 | Pkekyo| | druids went apeshit in their class forums because some [staff of druidy stuff] didn't have a glow when enchanted with [enchant of druidy stats] :P |
| 22:22.58 | aestil | is there no way to see haste from armory? |
| 22:23.08 | Pkekyo| | aestil: no, you screwed the pooch too much |
| 22:23.27 | Pkekyo| | it's hiding out in the bathroom with a soothing salve now |
| 22:23.43 | aestil | i'm confused by that statement |
| 22:24.01 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: ping |
| 22:24.16 | Pkekyo| | aestil: if so: go watch zeropunctuation you disconnected twat :P |
| 22:24.30 | Zhinjio | bah, how did it get so late. it's beer thirty! |
| 22:24.55 | Pkekyo| | Zhinjio: you're trying to code stuff after thirty beers? |
| 22:24.55 | Pkekyo| | do you work for microsoft? :p |
| 22:25.09 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: pong |
| 22:25.11 | CIA-45 | 03toadkiller * r79134 10LibPeriodicTable-3.1/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot/LibPeriodicTable-3.1-InstanceLoot.lua: |
| 22:25.11 | CIA-45 | LibPeriodicTable-3.1: |
| 22:25.11 | CIA-45 | - Sync up InstanceLoot to the actual data that is checked in. According to the diff this is wrong, as data is lost in the process. Whoever added this magical data needs to check in their source so it becomes real. |
| 22:25.19 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: did you get a chance to check your version? |
| 22:25.27 | NivFreak | yea, I was behind |
| 22:25.34 | Zhinjio | phew. |
| 22:25.35 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 22:25.36 | NivFreak | :) |
| 22:25.41 | NivFreak | I'll let you know how things go sunday |
| 22:25.45 | Zhinjio | awesome. |
| 22:25.54 | Zhinjio | on that note, I go in search of beer. |
| 22:25.59 | NivFreak | and hopefully we can drop mother and council! |
| 22:26.00 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:26.00 | Zhinjio | fortunately, I know right where to look. |
| 22:26.10 | Zhinjio | idles. |
| 22:27.34 | Pkekyo| | thrity beers + and still trying to code |
| 22:27.34 | Pkekyo| | Zhinjio is definitely a M$ employee |
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| 22:33.00 | NeoTron | omfg eeek http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk251/Frisbeetarianism/Motivational%20Posters/spiders.png |
| 22:33.06 | NeoTron | that would COMPLETELY freak me out |
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| 22:33.41 | NeoTron | it's SFW btw |
| 22:33.54 | NeoTron | might want to avoid if you have a strong spider phobia |
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| 22:37.41 | NivFreak | eh |
| 22:38.02 | NivFreak | I pulled a couple of spiders about half that size out of my house ;) |
| 22:38.09 | NivFreak | but pretty awesome |
| 22:38.50 | NeoTron | wtf do you live? |
| 22:38.53 | NeoTron | just so I know not to move there |
| 22:39.05 | NivFreak | seattle :P |
| 22:39.07 | NeoTron | SFW entertainment: http://lachschon.pcgames.de/slides/75620_congratulations.jpg |
| 22:39.09 | NeoTron | oh god |
| 22:39.10 | NeoTron | wtf? |
| 22:39.25 | NeoTron | I haven't seen anything nearly as big as half that spider here |
| 22:39.28 | NeoTron | in 12 years.. |
| 22:40.00 | NivFreak | where are you? |
| 22:41.15 | ZealotOnAStick | Ahh. Clock Spider. |
| 22:41.16 | NeoTron | Mukilteo atm |
| 22:41.23 | NivFreak | oh ha |
| 22:41.28 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: see it gives me shivers just thinking about the fact now |
| 22:41.32 | NivFreak | I live in shoreline |
| 22:41.52 | NivFreak | I never noticed your wa.comcast |
| 22:41.55 | Pkekyo| | if a girl is hinting her cat might bite me in the nob when we're sleeping in the same bed....how should I take it? :/ |
| 22:42.08 | NeoTron | "big spider" for me is like ~1" size |
| 22:42.14 | NivFreak | well |
| 22:42.30 | NivFreak | when we moved into our current house, it had been empty for about 6 months |
| 22:42.51 | NivFreak | I caught half a dozen very large house spiders |
| 22:42.58 | NivFreak | the ones that look identical to brown recluse |
| 22:43.26 | NivFreak | the bodies were larger than the size of quarter |
| 22:43.30 | NivFreak | with legs to scale off of that |
| 22:44.01 | NeoTron | freaky |
| 22:44.30 | NivFreak | it was great, we'd just moved in, my son was ~1 year old |
| 22:44.49 | NivFreak | he's sitting on my lap watching tv, and this BIG fucking spider crawls out from behind the other couch |
| 22:44.55 | NivFreak | and he runs over to see what it is of course |
| 22:45.03 | NeoTron | new and exciting |
| 22:45.18 | NivFreak | yea |
| 22:45.27 | NeoTron | so how did you dispose of it? I tend to vacuum spiders since I don't want to get my hand near them |
| 22:45.42 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:45.48 | NivFreak | I put him in a large tuperware |
| 22:45.54 | NivFreak | and brought him into the office |
| 22:46.01 | ZealotOnAStick | lol |
| 22:46.02 | NivFreak | which is where someone declared him a brown recluse |
| 22:46.08 | NivFreak | and then freaked out |
| 22:46.10 | VonhintenHOME` | eek |
| 22:46.16 | NivFreak | he was my pet office spider for about 3 days |
| 22:46.22 | NeoTron | I take it you're not too afraid of spiders then? |
| 22:46.24 | NivFreak | anyway, I caught several more |
| 22:46.25 | ZealotOnAStick | did you compare it to actual recluse images? |
| 22:46.27 | NivFreak | NeoTron: nah |
| 22:46.33 | ZealotOnAStick | I've seen recluses, and I've seen people bitten by them. |
| 22:46.44 | VonhintenHOME` | nothing like a little necrotized skin to start the day off right |
| 22:46.48 | NivFreak | ZealotOnAStick: we have a spider here that looks exactly like them |
| 22:47.04 | NivFreak | the only way to tell them apart, is to look at thier sex organs under a microscope after prepairing them |
| 22:47.21 | NeoTron | sounds like something I'd never want to do |
| 22:47.23 | NivFreak | but the location I found this one was really wrong for a recluse |
| 22:47.28 | NivFreak | they stay really low |
| 22:47.31 | NivFreak | this one was half way up a wall |
| 22:47.38 | NivFreak | and the rest were all at celling level |
| 22:47.43 | VonhintenHOME` | they like wood |
| 22:47.52 | NivFreak | so they are pretty much guarenteed to be common house spiders |
| 22:47.59 | NivFreak | so anyway, I put them all in the same tuperware |
| 22:48.01 | NivFreak | and let them fight it out |
| 22:48.12 | NivFreak | the winner sat there until it died too |
| 22:48.38 | NivFreak | I haven't seen any more large ones since we moved in |
| 22:48.42 | ZealotOnAStick | We had recluses nesting in the tops of metal buildings in Abilene, Texas, and above the hanging-down flourescent lighting fixtures. |
| 22:48.45 | NivFreak | once I cleared them out |
| 22:48.56 | NivFreak | ZealotOnAStick: are you 100% sure they were recluse? |
| 22:48.57 | ZealotOnAStick | If there's avalailable food (bugs) they'll hang out there. |
| 22:49.12 | ZealotOnAStick | Oh yes. |
| 22:49.19 | NivFreak | you know that the misidentification rate is something like 80% |
| 22:49.21 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:49.42 | NivFreak | NeoTron: anyway, it's funny to know you're in the same area |
| 22:49.42 | ZealotOnAStick | Seeing someone bit by one about a week after, it's pretty unmistakable. |
| 22:49.54 | NivFreak | ZealotOnAStick: for sure |
| 22:50.13 | ZealotOnAStick | I'm far more used to black widows, personally. |
| 22:50.40 | ZealotOnAStick | They're nice and obvious, not as nebulous as "brown fuzzy spider with a funky shape spot on its back" |
| 22:50.49 | NeoTron | this brings me back when someone asked what wowace was andI said World of Webs |
| 22:50.56 | NeoTron | now that is appropriate |
| 22:51.15 | NeoTron | don't black widows like to you know, hide in shoes? |
| 22:51.39 | ZealotOnAStick | widows I grew up around in West Texas. Know what their webs are like, their eggsacs, and know clearly what a female widow (the only ones to really worry about) look like. |
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| 22:52.06 | NeoTron | they have a pretty distinct appearance |
| 22:52.09 | ZealotOnAStick | Ehh, shoes are a possibility, but there's far more of them under/behind toilets. |
| 22:52.29 | NivFreak | I grew up in Alaska |
| 22:52.38 | NivFreak | I did much prefer having everything that could kill me |
| 22:52.42 | NivFreak | be larger than myself |
| 22:52.46 | NeoTron | yes |
| 22:52.50 | NeoTron | as long as they are not spiders |
| 22:52.54 | NivFreak | hahah |
| 22:52.54 | NeoTron | because that'd be freaky |
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| 22:53.06 | NeoTron | "spiderbear" |
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| 22:53.22 | NivFreak | I'm sure someone made a movie |
| 22:53.23 | ZealotOnAStick | recluses creep me out because 1) they're not nearly as distinct, and thus far higher rating on the paranoia scale and 2) it's not just "ehh, I'll get really sick for a bit and have to go to the doctor" it's "my flesh is rotting from the inside" |
| 22:53.42 | ZealotOnAStick | That was a D&D 2nd edition monster I'm fairly certain. |
| 22:53.45 | NivFreak | ZealotOnAStick: the best part is they are really bad about treating recluse bites |
| 22:53.48 | NivFreak | BUT |
| 22:53.55 | NivFreak | not everyone reacts to them in the flesh eating fashion :P |
| 22:54.15 | ZealotOnAStick | not sure if it was called such, but there was some sort of ursine-arachnid mostronsity. |
| 22:57.58 | NivFreak | hrmm, is there a single event I can monitor that fires when ever a player casts/heals/melees etc |
| 23:00.28 | Vulcanus | CLEU |
| 23:00.29 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 23:00.56 | NivFreak | ? |
| 23:01.16 | NivFreak | <- newb |
| 23:01.34 | Vulcanus | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 23:01.51 | NivFreak | well |
| 23:01.57 | NivFreak | ok, I could do that ;P |
| 23:02.07 | NivFreak | but that gets me a lot more than I really want |
| 23:02.34 | NivFreak | I guess I need to look at the new combatlog shit |
| 23:02.34 | NivFreak | :) |
| 23:03.13 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. I haven't found what I was looking for, but this is creepy anyway: http://www.headinjurytheater.com/images/d&d%20beasts%20monkey%20bees.jpg |
| 23:03.49 | NeoTron | what a completely impractical thnig |
| 23:03.51 | NeoTron | it has no legs! |
| 23:04.48 | ZealotOnAStick | http://www.headinjurytheater.com/d&d%20giant%20vampire%20frog.jpg also good. |
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| 23:19.43 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 23:31.08 | Antimensch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq_ea5RgvOI |
| 23:31.32 | Antimensch | well #%@!.. sorry, what i actually mean is: that's so adorable. i wish i could play that piece like that as well.. |
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| 23:39.10 | CIA-45 | 03ag 07Ace3 * r79135 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: removed :EnableMouse, didn't seem needed |
| 23:40.27 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster pong |
| 23:40.58 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: so your redoing prats core? planing on keeping the event id stuff? |
| 23:42.14 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster i dont know, i'm going to reevaluate that actually. it might be that other changes i am making will make that part unnecessary. |
| 23:43.16 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster its main purpose was to prevent processing of the same event more than once. i think that i might look for another way to acheive that |
| 23:44.09 | Arrowmaster | was that for supporting other adds hooking into prat? |
| 23:44.44 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster for anything that consumed prat events |
| 23:44.52 | Arrowmaster | well if you keep it i think it could be improved a lot from its current form by using a custom frame instead of a framework event handler |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-45 | 03morgalm * r79136 10MorgDKP/ (4 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-45 | MorgDKP: |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-45 | - Fix award DKP nil error |
| 23:45.16 | CIA-45 | - WEB: Fix DKP export for eqdkp+ with 0 pools |
| 23:45.24 | Arrowmaster | and remove most the major downsides to it currently |
| 23:45.37 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yes, i am in fact going to internalize prat's event support, so that would be a realistic option |
| 23:46.24 | Arrowmaster | basicly do RegisterAllEvents and have the event handler check if the beginning of the event name matchs CHAT_MSG_ and if not UnregisterEvent |
| 23:47.02 | CIA-45 | 03Copystring * r79137 10Barrel/ (10 files in 3 dirs): |
| 23:47.02 | CIA-45 | Barrel: initial commit |
| 23:47.02 | CIA-45 | - Minimap display for LibDataBroker-1.1 |
| 23:47.10 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yeah, i like that idea. i have taken note of alot of the criticisms people have made in the past, and i'm going to try to address them |
| 23:47.33 | Arrowmaster | well really the current RAE is very bad since 2.4 |
| 23:48.37 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster yeah, i quit the game at the 2.4 release, so i never really addressed any effect that had on prat |
| 23:49.12 | sylvanaar | just made sure it worked |
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| 23:50.56 | sylvanaar | personally, i like the general design of prat's event approach to chat - when blizzard added a very simple version of it, you could see the effect |
| 23:51.34 | sylvanaar | thats the only part i am really attached to at this point |
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| 23:53.48 | Xinhuan | you should just rewrite the whole thing imo |
| 23:54.07 | Xinhuan | and whoa, mazzlefizz wrote a wall of text, but its arguments are reasonable |
| 23:54.19 | Industrial1 | url |
| 23:54.20 | Industrial1 | ? |
| 23:54.20 | Xuerian | linkz |
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| 23:54.35 | Xuerian | (moar draaamaaaa) |
| 23:54.45 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14385.msg232519;topicseen#new |
| 23:56.45 | sylvanaar | Xinhuan i am rewriting the whole of prat.lua, i may not rewrite every single module |
| 23:57.01 | CIA-45 | 03Copystring * r79138 10Barrel/ (. Minimap.lua): |
| 23:57.01 | CIA-45 | Barrel: |
| 23:57.01 | CIA-45 | - set externals |
| 23:59.49 | Dashkal | Xinhuan: Do you think is claim of 'derivitive work' is legit? |
