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| 00:04.23 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: anything more I can dig out for you? |
| 00:05.25 | sylvanaar | why am i getting so many emails from people all of a sudden |
| 00:06.12 | Orionshock | broke prat recently? |
| 00:06.36 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: I need to look at the code again. I have no idea why it isn't working. |
| 00:07.01 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.22 | CIA-45 | 03tdw * r79359 10CleanShot/ (CleanShot.lua CleanShot.toc): CleanShot: - Add a check before atrempt to mask UI to avoid non-reshow bug when you spam the screenshot key. |
| 00:08.30 | winkiller | mhm, anyone can give me a quick help in how far 'local myVar = "";' is needed - especially if I need a local var in a function and return it properly |
| 00:08.56 | sylvanaar | Orionshock lol, yeah - but they are wau questions |
| 00:09.00 | Orionshock | winkiller: incomplete context sorry |
| 00:10.01 | winkiller | I haven't used lua for ages. do I have to initialize local variables in functions with 'local var' outside or not? |
| 00:10.14 | winkiller | the addon I'm looking ta atm seems to do it, but it looks weird |
| 00:10.17 | winkiller | especially for that reason |
| 00:10.41 | Arrowmaster | winkiller: if you make it local outside of the function then it will be saved between function calls |
| 00:10.54 | winkiller | ah k, thanks |
| 00:10.57 | Arrowmaster | winkiller: if you make it local inside the function then it will be recreated every call |
| 00:10.59 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: also, should I really need to manaully broadcast lists to everyone else running SKG? |
| 00:11.14 | winkiller | so local outside really should be global :P |
| 00:11.34 | Shefki | local makes it local to the scope you do it in. |
| 00:11.50 | Shefki | local outside a function makes it local to the file. |
| 00:11.50 | winkiller | well, looks local to the global scope here. |
| 00:12.02 | sylvanaar | the file is really a function itself |
| 00:12.03 | Chompers | Fisker- Fisker- Fisker- |
| 00:12.06 | winkiller | which I declare the global scope when I only have one file |
| 00:12.19 | winkiller | goes to fiddle |
| 00:12.22 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: if you have lots of people running just as "client mode" (non-syncers) ... I would do it once before raids. |
| 00:13.08 | sylvanaar | was that a question |
| 00:13.08 | Shefki | winkiller: It's not the global scope because all addons share one Lua interpreter. Global scope would imply it's accessible by any addon. |
| 00:13.22 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: there's not automatic push? |
| 00:13.54 | winkiller | true in the wow addon case then, still global if I do a standalone lua file. thanks for the clarification |
| 00:14.02 | Zhinjio | if everyone's data is current, there's no reason to push... but there's very little chance of that |
| 00:14.21 | Zhinjio | and no, there's *Never* automatic push of data anymore. |
| 00:14.30 | Zhinjio | quite by design |
| 00:14.42 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: no automagicness? |
| 00:14.58 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: it makes it odd when I clean up a list outside of raid |
| 00:15.05 | NivFreak | can we get a broadcast all lists button? : |
| 00:15.06 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:15.46 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:15.49 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:15.52 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 00:15.56 | NivFreak | why don't they just remove that talent |
| 00:16.17 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: just do "broadcast list" once on each list? |
| 00:16.40 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: I do, but I'm so lazy for my 4 lists ;) |
| 00:17.06 | Zhinjio | plays a really tiny violin for you, and sheds a pearly tear. |
| 00:17.10 | Orionshock | Zhinjio: people like automagicness |
| 00:17.45 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: the interface is a bit cumbersome for it ;) |
| 00:18.34 | Aiiane | NivFreak: because maybe, just maybe, they'll un-lolwell it. Sort of like lolwell. |
| 00:18.34 | Zhinjio | I'm already cramming in way too much on the list mgmt pane. |
| 00:18.51 | NivFreak | Aiiane: they tried, and reverted it |
| 00:19.01 | NivFreak | well, I guess if nothing else |
| 00:19.07 | NivFreak | imp rend serves one purpose |
| 00:19.14 | NivFreak | you know that when you inspect a warrior, and he has imp rent |
| 00:19.16 | NivFreak | rend evne |
| 00:19.20 | NivFreak | you can just /ignore him |
| 00:19.22 | NivFreak | and be safe |
| 00:19.32 | Aiiane | imp rend serves to be a handy flag for the Scrub addon |
| 00:19.41 | NivFreak | yes |
| 00:19.50 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: I may send you a mini-build to debug more. is that ok? |
| 00:19.56 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: certainly |
| 00:19.56 | Zhinjio | you can test this without much hassle, yes? |
| 00:20.00 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 00:20.04 | NivFreak | I just put an epic gem in my bag |
| 00:20.07 | NivFreak | and try to open bidding |
| 00:20.22 | Zhinjio | ok. |
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| 00:22.18 | Zhinjio | NivFreak... with debug on, there should be *at least* a message indicating you're in the hooking functions. you got *nothing*? |
| 00:22.25 | NivFreak | nope |
| 00:22.30 | NivFreak | I got the onload debug messages |
| 00:22.32 | NivFreak | and nothing after |
| 00:22.52 | Zhinjio | and you tried a link in chat as well? |
| 00:23.11 | NivFreak | yep |
| 00:23.39 | Zhinjio | ... I'm ... at a loss. is there an SKG_Hooks.lua file in your directory? |
| 00:23.45 | Zhinjio | maybe I idn't package it or something stupid? |
| 00:23.58 | Zhinjio | *checks wowace's zip* |
| 00:24.00 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:24.00 | NivFreak | nope |
| 00:24.16 | NivFreak | it's in the toc |
| 00:24.19 | NivFreak | not in the directory |
| 00:24.19 | Zhinjio | NO?? |
| 00:24.20 | Zhinjio | omg. |
| 00:24.23 | NivFreak | haha |
| 00:24.29 | Zhinjio | cries lots of pearly tears. |
| 00:25.21 | NivFreak | oh hey |
| 00:25.28 | NivFreak | it's actually commented out in the toc too |
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| 00:25.53 | Industrial | How do I check if an item is a shield or weapon? |
| 00:26.32 | NeoTron | wonder what it is that breaks most config windows of addons in the beta |
| 00:26.38 | NeoTron | did they do any fundamental ui changes? |
| 00:27.02 | Zhinjio | alright NivFreak ... at least we now have an explanation. I will fix and repush ... |
| 00:27.05 | Zhinjio | *sigh* |
| 00:27.43 | NivFreak | thanks :) |
| 00:30.13 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 00:30.20 | NivFreak | I wonder what they hotfixed and patched the last couple of nights |
| 00:31.26 | Shefki | Hopefully some of the stupid behavior of mobs in some places. Like the room in BT that sometimes pulls the whole room instead of just part of it. |
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| 00:35.55 | Arrowmaster | which room? |
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| 00:40.40 | p3lim | ~who ckknight |
| 00:40.41 | purl | ckknight is probably a strong developer in the Ace community, and a main developer of the Ace2 framework itself as well as the Rock framework, ckknight is best known for such addons as FuBar, Cartographer, PitBull, CowTip, Parrot, and so many more. See ~emulate ckknight for the full story. |
| 00:40.52 | p3lim | ~seen ckknight |
| 00:41.01 | purl | ckknight is currently on #norganna (10h 28m 36s) #wowuidev (10h 28m 36s) #wowace (10h 28m 36s) #curseforge (10h 28m 36s). Has said a total of 189 messages. Is idling for 1m 15s, last said: 'wtf, who is root?'. |
| 00:41.01 | ckknight | dude, just ping me |
| 00:41.03 | p3lim | oh youre here .P |
| 00:41.11 | profalbert | he's always here |
| 00:41.34 | p3lim | did say 'ckknight has quit' in my window tho, weird |
| 00:41.40 | ckknight | I blame gnomes. |
| 00:41.46 | ckknight | also: ckk<tag> |
| 00:41.48 | ckknight | err |
| 00:41.49 | ckknight | ckk<tab> |
| 00:41.51 | p3lim | anyways, where are the docs for LibCrayon-3.0 located? |
| 00:42.04 | ckknight | not sure there are any |
| 00:42.05 | Orionshock | the hell, do i have someone on ignore? |
| 00:42.20 | ckknight | Orionshock's ignoring me |
| 00:42.21 | ckknight | sighs |
| 00:42.22 | p3lim | shame :/ |
| 00:42.34 | Orionshock | i see you, but who ping'ed purl ? |
| 00:42.40 | ckknight | p3lim |
| 00:42.43 | CIA-45 | 03zhinjio * r79360 10SKG/ (SKG.toc SKG_Globals.lua SKG_Hooks.lua): |
| 00:42.43 | CIA-45 | SKG : |
| 00:42.43 | CIA-45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.46 | p3lim | says in the addon lua that there are documents, but the link is not valid |
| 00:42.50 | Orionshock | where? |
| 00:42.54 | ckknight | he's here |
| 00:42.56 | ckknight | still talking |
| 00:42.57 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: need to wait for packagers.... |
| 00:43.10 | Orionshock | NivFreak: , get a svn client :D |
| 00:43.42 | Orionshock | ? i think i had him on ignore... creepy? |
| 00:48.26 | p3lim | anyways, ckknight, having an issue with LibCrayon |
| 00:48.33 | p3lim | http://pastey.net/92623 doesnt seem to work, no recoloring |
| 00:49.06 | ckknight | because you don't know how WoW's colors work |
| 00:49.10 | ckknight | why is that |r there? |
| 00:49.17 | ckknight | instead of on the right |
| 00:51.20 | p3lim | oh.. missed that one |
| 00:52.02 | p3lim | everything is green tho |
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| 00:53.52 | p3lim | ahh there we go :D |
| 00:53.59 | winkiller | wow.. that was easy |
| 00:54.03 | winkiller | addon up and running |
| 00:54.37 | NivFreak | Orionshock: I have an svn client :P |
| 00:55.25 | NivFreak | Orionshock: you had me on ignore? |
| 00:55.36 | NivFreak | oh |
| 00:55.37 | NivFreak | nm |
| 00:55.42 | Orionshock | no i think my client had p3lim on ignore... |
| 00:55.51 | NivFreak | yea, I got it ;) |
| 00:55.51 | p3lim | Orionshock: I think so too |
| 00:55.52 | p3lim | :S |
| 00:55.59 | Orionshock | odd i'm not sure even how to put ppl on ignore.. |
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| 00:56.20 | p3lim | Orionshock: why did you have me on ignore? |
| 00:56.36 | Orionshock | i don't know... not even sure how u got there... |
| 00:56.42 | Orionshock | rather creepy tbh |
| 00:56.54 | p3lim | odd |
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| 01:01.25 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79361 10Prat/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 01:01.25 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 01:01.25 | CIA-45 | Added the print service, removed all references to Prat from the services |
| 01:01.25 | CIA-45 | (except the comments) They now use CHAT_SVC_NAMESPACE. |
| 01:02.00 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: it packaged on curse already, so pull it from there if you're lazy |
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| 01:09.20 | Zhinjio | ok, pushed to wowui. pending on wowi. waiting for wowace packager. |
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| 01:22.34 | p3lim | what elapsed offset should i use for an onupdate handler doing coordinates? |
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| 01:34.57 | NivFreak | do your illidan FR tanks need to be crit immune? |
| 01:35.11 | NivFreak | or is the damage elemental melee |
| 01:35.31 | Bruners | dont think any of our tanks where crit immune |
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| 01:43.12 | elite3vil | I know ours were all still def capped |
| 01:45.05 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: any chance you can verify that build for me? |
| 01:47.02 | elite3vil | Yay for people moving towards me when they have firebloom. |
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| 01:50.06 | Diao | ugh |
| 01:50.09 | Diao | even in season 4 |
| 01:50.15 | Diao | there are people with full s3 gear in the 1500s |
| 01:50.17 | Diao | why are they so bad |
| 01:50.28 | Diao | i'm trying to gear out my alt in half blues/s2 gear :( |
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| 01:50.49 | Diao | and these skill-less people with full s3 bought from pr are playing in my bracket |
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| 02:02.27 | CIA-45 | 03kurax * r79362 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-zhCN.lua: AckisRecipeList: zhCN update |
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| 02:30.55 | Arrowmaster | wtf somehow i had a felarmor buff that was giving me more +dmg than normal |
| 02:31.09 | Arrowmaster | was at 1404 +shadow with no other buffs |
| 02:31.25 | Arrowmaster | but when i rebuffed i got a faded then gain message in combatlog |
| 02:31.33 | Arrowmaster | and now im back to 1385 |
| 02:33.09 | ccKep | respecced recently? |
| 02:34.04 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: working great |
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| 02:34.17 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: or at least, they are getting added to the loot window |
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| 02:36.12 | elite3vil | Arrowmaster: I was bugged with perma-ret aura up. I could put another up and keep both.. until I died. |
| 02:37.18 | Zhinjio | ok, thanks. |
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| 02:37.37 | Poul|Raider | Arrowmaster, you a min to help me out. Looking at ItemButtonTemplate - <Button name="ItemButtonTemplate" virtual="true"><Size><AbsDimension x="37" y="37"/></Size> and the normalTexture of the button, the size is set to 64x64 , whats the actual size of the button? |
| 02:38.11 | Arrowmaster | not really, pulling brut |
| 02:38.18 | Poul|Raider | oki :) |
| 02:38.40 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: yep, seems to work great |
| 02:38.45 | NivFreak | thank you :) |
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| 02:39.37 | Zhinjio | smiles. finally |
| 02:39.47 | Zhinjio | only took me three point releases to figure out which file I'd left out. |
| 02:40.33 | Poul|Raider | if anyone else know the answer to what i asked feel free to say so :) |
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| 02:44.49 | Poul|Raider | are there anywhere where i can see tha source code of the button object |
| 02:44.59 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79363 10Prat/ (addon/addon.lua services/chatsections.lua): |
| 02:44.59 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 02:45.00 | CIA-45 | Installed the frame hooks, and have them use the chatsection service. |
| 02:45.00 | CIA-45 | Typical chattables are being produced. Checkpoint. |
| 02:48.08 | Zhinjio | Poul|Raider: 37x37 |
| 02:48.25 | Zhinjio | but thats the template, not the button itself. |
| 02:48.41 | Poul|Raider | <NormalTexture name="$parentNormalTexture" file="Interface\Buttons\UI-Quickslot2"> |
| 02:48.41 | Zhinjio | the button itself can override any of those values |
| 02:48.45 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 02:49.05 | Zhinjio | the texture used does not influence the size of the button |
| 02:49.24 | Zhinjio | you can cram any texture into any size object (theoretically) using texcoords |
| 02:49.26 | Poul|Raider | naa but does it mean the texture will get around whats in the button etc? |
| 02:49.52 | Poul|Raider | the size of the UI-Quickslot2 just confuses me |
| 02:50.16 | Poul|Raider | and it have nothing to do with the <Texture name="$parentIconTexture"/> right? |
| 02:50.28 | Poul|Raider | im just trying to understand how the button is build up |
| 02:50.35 | Poul|Raider | what the normaltexture etc is doing |
| 02:50.50 | Poul|Raider | couldnt find anything explaining it on google |
| 02:51.10 | Zhinjio | normaltexture is just to distinguish from a pushedtexture and disabled texture |
| 02:51.21 | Zhinjio | and highlight texture |
| 02:51.25 | Zhinjio | each is distinct |
| 02:51.33 | Poul|Raider | ye but they are beeing showed on the button etc? |
| 02:51.37 | Zhinjio | but the size of the texture doesn't change or influence the size of the button |
| 02:51.40 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 02:52.12 | Zhinjio | using templates saves you from having to do all the work of skinning the button yourself |
| 02:52.18 | Poul|Raider | but when the button is in normal state, does it then load the texture into <Texture name="$parentIconTexture"/> ?` |
| 02:52.50 | Zhinjio | um. |
| 02:53.00 | Zhinjio | don't think of it as "loading" into that |
| 02:53.01 | Poul|Raider | the reason im asking is not to create an addon, i would just like to create an usercontrol for an app that worked the same way as the wow-button thing |
| 02:53.36 | Zhinjio | basically, normaltexture is the texture that is displayed when the button is not depressed, is enabled, and is not being hovered over. |
| 02:53.46 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 02:54.08 | Poul|Raider | i get that, im just not sure about where its position is acording to etc the stuff in <layer> |
| 02:54.19 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 02:54.28 | Zhinjio | like, where does it show up on the button>? |
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| 02:54.31 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 02:54.49 | Poul|Raider | i see its bound to center |
| 02:55.08 | Poul|Raider | so what im asking is, if the button is 37, and the normaltexture is 64, then its around the icon etc? |
| 02:55.17 | Zhinjio | thats also something you can ovevrride, but I think by default, the center of the texture is anchored to the center of the button |
| 02:55.22 | jccharles | are part of your future plans to get those god awful adlinks with popups off the site? |
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| 02:55.52 | Zhinjio | Poul|Raider: I don't remember. I think the texture cannot exceed the size ofthe button itslef. |
| 02:55.56 | Poul|Raider | ye Zhinjio, its to center as default, and if its 64 in size, then its around the button which are 37 ? |
| 02:55.59 | Zhinjio | but its been awhile since I've played with that. |
| 02:56.04 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 02:56.31 | Poul|Raider | but ye, its the part im wondering if they can exceed the size of the button or it just set it as the max posible size |
| 02:57.38 | Zhinjio | I don't think it will exceed the size of the button |
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| 03:01.02 | ccKep | your normal texture can actually exceed the button, same the other way around |
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| 03:02.40 | Poul|Raider | so that mean the normaltexture would draw around the <Texture name="$parentIconTexture"/> etc |
| 03:02.58 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.12 | ccKep | what you then see is the normal texture (that "border" thingie) |
| 03:03.17 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.49 | ccKep | now if you hover the mouse at a side of the button you'll the the button is there (hightlightTexture becomes shown) but it exceeds the normalTexture |
| 03:05.09 | ccKep | same the other way around /script froop:GetNormalTexture():SetWidth(150) |
| 03:06.33 | Poul|Raider | ahh |
| 03:07.34 | ccKep | 66 and 32 are just the standard values I think, so that it looks nice |
| 03:07.41 | Poul|Raider | ye |
| 03:07.48 | Poul|Raider | but this gave me an idea of it, thx |
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| 03:26.53 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r79364 10CreatureComforts/ (Core.lua CreatureComforts.toc Locales.lua): |
| 03:26.53 | CIA-45 | CreatureComforts: |
| 03:26.53 | CIA-45 | - Added partial deDE and frFR translations; addon should work in these locales now. |
| 03:28.57 | Gagorian- | ckknight: Is it possible to disable the alt + rightclick pitbull options thing?ยด |
| 03:29.08 | ckknight | not now, no |
| 03:29.19 | ckknight | you could change it in the code |
| 03:30.00 | Gagorian- | Where is it? |
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| 03:32.39 | Shefki | Gagorian-: You use Clique or something like it? |
| 03:33.22 | Gagorian- | Aye |
| 03:33.28 | Shefki | If so just keybind Clique to a macro with just # in it. |
| 03:33.40 | ckknight | yea, that'd work |
| 03:33.48 | Shefki | That's what I use. |
| 03:34.13 | Shefki | I asked for that feature and help figuring out how to add it and that's what Ellipsis told me to do. |
| 03:34.35 | Gagorian- | Hmm, I've got a spellcast with Clique on alt rightclick |
| 03:34.48 | Shefki | Shift+Rightclick is the config. |
| 03:35.41 | Gagorian- | Hmm perhaps yeah. But, even so it keeps opening the options |
| 03:37.24 | Gagorian- | Well, alt + rightclick does open the options too |
| 03:39.17 | NeoTron | considering Bulkmail2 seems abandoned, are there any addons that does the same? I especially like the auto-mailing feature but also the inbox stuff |
| 03:39.23 | Gagorian- | Yeah, that Clique thing works. |
| 03:39.24 | Gagorian- | Thanks |
| 03:40.02 | Shefki | I'm using Postal these days. |
| 03:40.17 | Shefki | It has some similar features not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for though. |
| 03:41.19 | Diao | hmm |
| 03:41.23 | Diao | there's no macro option for in range is there |
| 03:41.33 | Shefki | Nope and they won't add one either. |
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| 03:44.40 | NeoTron | "Also just boosted the imp's mana regen around 200%, health by 20%, armor by 16% and gave it 80% avoidance (dmg reduction) to AOE's. So he's just about ready to do some business. " |
| 03:45.09 | Diao | :( |
| 03:45.14 | Diao | i use a shock focus target macro |
| 03:45.21 | Diao | but if they're out of range i want to shock my current target |
| 03:45.26 | Diao | but it doesn't work |
| 03:45.32 | Diao | so i have to bind a separate key to shock my current target |
| 03:45.34 | Diao | on my shaman alt |
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| 04:02.57 | NeoTron | so all ordinary pets have 80% aoe avoidance now. I wonder if it's aoe damage reduction (good) or complete avoidance (bad) |
| 04:03.03 | NeoTron | the latter still means pets will instagib |
| 04:07.23 | ccKep | for hunter pets it was reduction until now afaik |
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| 04:08.34 | Codayus | Felguards currently get Avoidance, which is "Increases your chance to avoid area of effect attacks by an additional 50%." |
| 04:08.45 | Codayus | "Apply Aura: Mod AoE Avoidance |
| 04:09.01 | Codayus | What's the name of the current hunter pet ability? |
| 04:09.19 | Codayus | Ah, found it. |
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| 04:09.37 | Codayus | "Reduces the damage your pet takes from area of effect attacks by an additional 50%." Apply Aura: Damage from AoE Spells (127) |
| 04:10.30 | Codayus | Obviously they could do it either way, but the wording SOUNDS like the Felguard ability, which is just a dodge chance - and as NeoTron says, that's not very helpful. |
| 04:11.33 | CIA-45 | 03phanx * r79365 10CreatureComforts/Core.lua: |
| 04:11.33 | CIA-45 | CreatureComforts: |
| 04:11.33 | CIA-45 | - Disable debug output before anyone notices (and complains) >_> |
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| 04:12.09 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79366 10oUF_ReadyCheck/oUF_ReadyCheck.lua: oUF_ReadyCheck: Fix for update |
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| 04:14.10 | Groktar | 15% |
| 04:14.13 | Groktar | everyone up |
| 04:14.17 | Groktar | DARK FIEND |
| 04:14.19 | Groktar | akldjflakdsjfaslkf |
| 04:15.06 | Vonhinten | I need a cleanse macro that will cleanse my target if its friendly, my targets target if they're friendly, and myself if no target |
| 04:15.15 | Vonhinten | Anyone know how to do that? |
| 04:17.44 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.00 | Aiiane | might not need the target=target in the first clause |
| 04:18.46 | Codayus | Pretty sure you don't, but probably a good idea to have it so you can figure out what the macro does easier later. :-) |
| 04:18.54 | Aiiane | ;) |
| 04:20.40 | Vonhinten | That doesn't cleanse me when I have no target |
| 04:20.55 | Aiiane | odd, it should |
| 04:21.05 | Aiiane | oh |
| 04:21.14 | Aiiane | add "exists" to the first two clauses |
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| 04:21.28 | Aiiane | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:21.43 | Aiiane | or might be singular "exisit" |
| 04:21.45 | Aiiane | *exist |
| 04:22.16 | ccKep | this is what I use: |
| 04:22.16 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.19 | Aiiane | nop, it's exists, just checked my shackle macro |
| 04:23.03 | Aiiane | yeah, that should work too |
| 04:23.15 | Zeksie | don't need to use exists if using help, can only help something that exists. same for harm, if it's harmful, it must exist. |
| 04:23.25 | ccKep | using that for like every single spell I use |
| 04:23.32 | ccKep | chain heal, healing wave, lesser healing wave, cures =) |
| 04:23.32 | Aiiane | heh |
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| 04:23.45 | Aiiane | you're lucky, you only have 5 spells to worry about :P |
| 04:23.57 | ccKep | well, I use different ranks :D |
| 04:24.07 | ccKep | 1,7,8,12 of healing wave for example |
| 04:24.22 | Aiiane | it'd be neat if blizz allowed you to set a priority list for targets |
| 04:24.35 | Aiiane | i.e. you could set all friendly spells to default to target/targettarget/self |
| 04:24.38 | ccKep | actually |
| 04:24.40 | ccKep | I used to use that macros |
| 04:24.44 | ccKep | now I switched to BT4 |
| 04:24.51 | ccKep | and it automatically wraps the spells into such macros |
| 04:24.55 | ccKep | except for [target=player] at the end |
| 04:24.57 | Aiiane | *nod* |
| 04:25.12 | Aiiane | and can just use self-cast modifier for that |
| 04:25.16 | NeoTron | Codayus: indeed. it just means it'll take a bit longer for the pet to die but he will die |
| 04:25.17 | ccKep | but I'm just adding that for myself |
| 04:25.19 | NeoTron | esp the imp |
| 04:25.40 | ccKep | would be cool if nevcairiel just used some format-string for such macro so its easier to edit |
| 04:25.55 | NeoTron | actually this sounds like the hunter |
| 04:25.57 | NeoTron | " Avoidance (Felguard) - Now reduces damage taken from area of effect attacks by an additional 80%. " |
| 04:26.02 | Codayus | THAT does. |
| 04:26.06 | ccKep | like "/cast [target=target,help,nodead] [target=targettarget,help,nodead] [target=player] %s":format(spellname) |
| 04:26.07 | Codayus | Hmm |
| 04:26.07 | NeoTron | that is what blue wrote |
| 04:26.15 | NeoTron | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8537703822&sid=2000 |
| 04:26.38 | Codayus | It doesn't help that both the hunter AND Felguard abilities are currently named Avoidance... |
| 04:26.43 | NeoTron | for felguard it almost sounds like it is that +50% complete avoidance |
| 04:26.45 | Codayus | Ah, but that's in the WARLOCK forum. |
| 04:27.04 | Codayus | And even tagged with the felguard name. So... |
| 04:27.46 | Codayus | Would be damn nice; a neccesary step to make felguard raid viable IMHO. |
| 04:27.50 | Aiiane | good, I'm all for anything that buffs felguard raiding |
| 04:27.55 | Codayus | (Okay, it's...sorta raid viable now. You know what I mean.) |
| 04:27.58 | Diao | so they rebuffed ds? |
| 04:27.59 | Aiiane | tired of being a shadow mage |
| 04:28.01 | NeoTron | Codayus: check the next line |
| 04:28.11 | Codayus | WTF |
| 04:28.17 | Codayus | <3 |
| 04:28.34 | Codayus | Although probably pointless. |
| 04:28.45 | Codayus | Except maybe for voidwalkers is 5 mans? |
| 04:28.54 | NeoTron | they want us to use pets |
| 04:29.02 | Aiiane | instead of saccing them :P |
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| 04:29.27 | NeoTron | # Imp: Health increased 20%, Armor increased 16%, mana regeneration increased 200%. |
| 04:29.32 | Codayus | Yeah...well. Depends on encounter design, but right now, there's not a lot of incentive to even WANT to use anything except the imp or felguard in raiding... |
| 04:29.42 | NeoTron | err |
| 04:29.45 | NeoTron | fel hunter yo |
| 04:29.57 | NeoTron | fel intellect |
| 04:30.01 | NeoTron | 5% more spirit and int |
| 04:30.06 | NeoTron | when talented |
| 04:30.09 | Codayus | Ooops, forgot. Although it's used for Leo already... |
| 04:30.16 | NeoTron | what? |
| 04:30.21 | NeoTron | oh yeah |
| 04:30.26 | NeoTron | but that's situation demo spec stuff |
| 04:30.29 | Codayus | Yeah |
| 04:30.32 | Aiiane | and the felhunter will actually do some damage, if you're Aff |
| 04:30.39 | NeoTron | yep |
| 04:30.55 | NeoTron | enough to have it out for sure |
| 04:30.55 | Codayus | Well, doesn't matter if it actually has an impact or not, any barrier to make pets and demo spec more viable is fine with me. |
| 04:30.57 | NeoTron | although I wonder |
| 04:31.01 | NeoTron | he'll run behind the boss |
| 04:31.05 | Codayus | Er, removing any barrier. |
| 04:31.07 | NeoTron | and sometimes be out of range :P |
| 04:31.13 | NeoTron | but I'm thinking of a fight like brutallus |
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| 04:31.27 | NeoTron | I'm excited for useful pets |
| 04:31.37 | ccKep | # Glyph of Frenzied Regeneration - While Frenzied Regeration is active, healing effects on you are 20% more powerful. <<< woot |
| 04:31.42 | Codayus | # Infernal: Cooldown reduced to 15 minutes, Duration reduced to 1 minute |
| 04:31.44 | NeoTron | I'm thinking though that a 20/51 spec (if chaos bolt is worth it) or 21/50 will be fun as fire |
| 04:31.51 | NeoTron | 20 pts to buff up the imp |
| 04:32.05 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 04:32.12 | NeoTron | I wondered if infernal will be more like a fire elemental |
| 04:32.12 | ccKep | # Glyph of the White Bear - Changes the appearance of your bear and dire bear forms to that of a polar bear. <<< lulz |
| 04:32.14 | NeoTron | situation dps boost |
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| 04:33.17 | ccKep | 240 megs @ patch, woot |
| 04:33.40 | ccKep | atleast speed is "o.k." |
| 04:34.08 | NeoTron | WTB BETA PST |
| 04:34.17 | NeoTron | or rather WTB addon author key handling rsn |
| 04:34.33 | NeoTron | I tried imp build early on in TBC |
| 04:34.38 | NeoTron | before it was nerfed it was some insane DPS |
| 04:35.08 | ccKep | razorgore trinket :D |
| 04:35.43 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79367 10oUF_ReadyCheck/oUF_ReadyCheck.lua: oUF_ReadyCheck: Go figure. |
| 04:36.04 | ccKep | wondering what the blizzard_calenderui actually shows |
| 04:36.05 | NeoTron | back in those days I was a priest |
| 04:36.15 | ccKep | if it doesn't show instance resets its useless imho ^.^ |
| 04:45.06 | jaxdahl | strange. my wotlk wow.exe is crashing now when i try to log into my deathknight |
| 04:45.25 | Groktar | deathknights can't even log in? |
| 04:45.27 | Groktar | buff plx |
| 04:46.00 | CIA-45 | 03aiiane * r79368 10AiiDLink/ (ADLHelpFrame.xml AiiDLink.lua AiiDLink.toc): |
| 04:46.00 | CIA-45 | AiiDLink: |
| 04:46.00 | CIA-45 | - Added ability to forget saved references. |
| 04:46.00 | CIA-45 | - Slight modification of menu layouts to reduce clutter. |
| 04:46.03 | jaxdahl | hm, it seems there was a patch |
| 04:46.15 | jaxdahl | started it from the launcher |
| 04:46.22 | jaxdahl | wow, big patch, 235mb |
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| 04:48.04 | ccKep | 98% on that, though I dont have a beta key ^.^ |
| 04:48.10 | ccKep | can't test DK issue |
| 04:48.37 | NeoTron | ah there we go |
| 04:48.44 | NeoTron | I like to keep my beta up to date for when I get the key! |
| 04:48.51 | ccKep | yep :> |
| 04:49.15 | ccKep | get key -> do some shitty beta.wow-europe.com stuff -> go rock |
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| 04:49.45 | ccKep | hope the added some shaman spells in the latest build... |
| 04:49.59 | ccKep | dont want to use level 68 chain heal at 80 |
| 04:58.08 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r79369 10Acheron/ (Debuffs.lua Display.lua): |
| 04:58.08 | CIA-45 | Acheron: |
| 04:58.08 | CIA-45 | - restrict clicking on report entries to report to left click |
| 04:58.08 | CIA-45 | - added a few more death-inducing debuffs to track |
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| 05:07.45 | DARKGuy | Hey, anybody knows what happened with StatStain and Fizzle? |
| 05:07.48 | DARKGuy | they dissapeared :( |
| 05:08.02 | DARKGuy | from JWU at least |
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| 05:09.42 | DARKGuy | oh nvm |
| 05:09.47 | DARKGuy | it's a JWU bug it seems |
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| 05:12.38 | p3lim | whos the author of ButtonFacade? |
| 05:12.56 | syeren | jjsheets. |
| 05:13.05 | syeren | He needs to fix it some more so it saves more options :< |
| 05:13.06 | p3lim | know if he uses IRC? |
| 05:13.13 | syeren | He used to. |
| 05:13.17 | p3lim | hm... |
| 05:13.31 | steev | hrm |
| 05:13.34 | p3lim | maybe you know, is :Skin() supposed to be with savedvariables? |
| 05:13.41 | steev | anyone familiar with the kael fight in heroic mgt? |
| 05:13.46 | p3lim | like so: group:Skin(db.skin, db.gloss, db.backdrop) |
| 05:14.32 | steev | so we just downed him - but something really interesting happened |
| 05:14.42 | ccKep | steev: depends on "familar" |
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| 05:14.50 | jaxdahl | steev, continue |
| 05:15.17 | steev | tank: druid me:rogue healer:druid rdps sl/sl, hunter |
| 05:15.34 | steev | so, druid keeps eating the pyro |
| 05:15.49 | steev | we keep wiping before even getting to gravity lapse - or shortly thereafter |
| 05:16.00 | steev | so we try this strategy |
| 05:16.06 | steev | when he starts casting pyro |
| 05:16.06 | p3lim | nuke the shit outta him |
| 05:16.15 | p3lim | youve got 60 sec to get him to 50% hp |
| 05:16.26 | steev | tank goes cat, cowers, hunter feigns and im the reigning supreme with threat |
| 05:16.39 | steev | at 2 seconds to cast |
| 05:16.44 | Vonhinten | gotta go balls out from the start |
| 05:16.50 | p3lim | yep |
| 05:16.54 | steev | i hit cloak (yes, i know, you can't soak it) |
| 05:16.57 | p3lim | pop cooldowns and everything at start |
| 05:17.00 | steev | he casts pyro |
| 05:17.03 | steev | but |
| 05:17.06 | steev | instead of it going to me |
| 05:17.11 | steev | it hits the tank druid |
| 05:17.24 | ccKep | cower doesn't wipe your threat or anything like that |
| 05:17.24 | jaxdahl | he determines his target at the start of the cast |
| 05:17.26 | jaxdahl | not the end |
| 05:17.31 | p3lim | cause he starts casting at the start of the cast |
| 05:17.38 | p3lim | starts targetting* |
| 05:17.38 | steev | ahh |
| 05:17.46 | steev | okay, that makes sense |
| 05:17.47 | p3lim | all spells does this |
| 05:17.55 | Vonhinten | blow all cooldowns to get him to 50% |
| 05:18.08 | p3lim | its a dps race to 50% |
| 05:18.10 | jaxdahl | be careful with blade flurry though |
| 05:18.15 | jaxdahl | don't pop it until the first phoenix spawns |
| 05:18.17 | p3lim | then its chill + healing hell |
| 05:18.18 | steev | yeah, hitting the phoenix is a bitch |
| 05:18.19 | Vonhinten | yeah, don't catch the bird |
| 05:18.50 | Vonhinten | I've actually bubbled through the pyro on my pally when I tank it |
| 05:18.55 | steev | we downed him, he dropped garbage |
| 05:18.59 | Vonhinten | the one time I had to |
| 05:19.01 | steev | but i did get the shard from priestess so <3 |
| 05:19.07 | ccKep | you might want your lock to put CoD on him 2-3 secs after the pull |
| 05:19.15 | ccKep | so, _in case_ you run into pyro |
| 05:19.23 | ccKep | the barrier will just go down instantly |
| 05:19.36 | ccKep | since CoD is 60secs too |
| 05:20.05 | ccKep | and if the barrier is down you can just kick the pyro.. but as I said: this is an _IN CASE_ scenario |
| 05:20.16 | ccKep | you should really aim to bring him sub 50% in the first 60secs |
| 05:20.28 | steev | yeah that would make it a ton easier - but yeah, we get him to about 54% |
| 05:20.39 | p3lim | nevertheless, you dont need a tank at stage 2 |
| 05:20.51 | ccKep | do your ranged dpsers switch to the phoenix? if yes then dont do it |
| 05:21.02 | p3lim | never dps the bird |
| 05:21.04 | ccKep | it'll just die by itself |
| 05:21.06 | p3lim | just kite it |
| 05:21.13 | p3lim | it hellfires itself to death |
| 05:21.16 | ccKep | you have enough time to kill it / the egg when kael switches phases |
| 05:21.21 | p3lim | but be sure to have the egg dead asap |
| 05:21.41 | Aiiane | yup |
| 05:21.44 | Aiiane | phoenix alive in phase 2 hurts |
| 05:21.48 | p3lim | make the one with the least dps of the ranged ones to kite it |
| 05:22.18 | ccKep | warlock should just dps from the top ledge (behind where kael is standing pre-pull) |
| 05:22.27 | p3lim | its an easy fight tbh, as long youve got dps enough to nuke him 50% health in 60 sec or less |
| 05:22.31 | ccKep | so he can just dot the phoenix when its on the way to him to the top and continue dpsing kael |
| 05:22.44 | ccKep | and if the bird is halfway at top he can jump down and the bird will die next to kael :D |
| 05:23.03 | Aiiane | on a side note... has anyone else run into the problem with TinyTipOptions not loading properly and know how to rectify it? |
| 05:23.22 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79370 10Prat/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:23.23 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 05:23.23 | CIA-45 | The last version wasnt actually printing the text, it was just parsing it. |
| 05:23.23 | CIA-45 | This prints it, and some "test" code was added to simulate a module. |
| 05:24.18 | ccKep | and aim to kick like every 3rd fireball, druids are a pain in the ass at tanking him |
| 05:24.53 | CIA-45 | 03sylvanaar 073.0 * r79371 10Prat/services/patterns.lua: |
| 05:24.53 | CIA-45 | Prat 3.0 (Dev): |
| 05:24.53 | CIA-45 | Missed a tostring call. |
| 05:25.44 | ccKep | might just be easier to have the hunter tank it and let the bear go kitty for your group setup, but that depends on the hunters gear ofc =) |
| 05:26.14 | p3lim | anyone here that can help me a bit with LibButtonFacade? |
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| 05:27.02 | ccKep | guess I'll need help on that too @ p3lim, since it doesn't seem to skin my button correctly ^.^ |
| 05:27.38 | p3lim | just need some explanation on :RegisterSkinCallback() |
| 05:27.59 | ccKep | shrugs |
| 05:28.21 | p3lim | ccKep: :Skin() is for savedvariables right? |
| 05:28.37 | p3lim | like.. group:Skin(db.skin, db.gloss, db.backdrop) |
| 05:28.43 | ccKep | I actually have no idea, hence why I could need some help too on that ;) |
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| 05:42.26 | Groktar | i am just getting so frustrated by muru |
| 05:42.45 | Groktar | pretty sure half the guild wants to kill themselves |
| 05:42.51 | p3lim | what event is the proper one to use to twiggle with savedvariables? |
| 05:43.01 | p3lim | VARIABLES_LOADED or ADDON_LOADED ? |
| 05:43.09 | falconindy | are you at least seeing entropius? |
| 05:43.12 | Groktar | yeah |
| 05:43.20 | falconindy | how many healers? |
| 05:43.25 | Groktar | we SHOULD be seeing entropius pretty much every single attempt |
| 05:43.27 | Groktar | 6 |
| 05:43.36 | Groktar | we got him to 15% tonight |
| 05:43.46 | falconindy | nice |
| 05:43.51 | Groktar | people just keep finding exciting ways to fuck up |
| 05:43.59 | falconindy | melee getting trapped in singularities much? |
| 05:44.10 | Groktar | probably |
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| 05:44.42 | falconindy | im used to running with 5 healers... its sketchy but he falls over in a big hurry |
| 05:44.57 | Groktar | but the thing is |
| 05:44.59 | Groktar | we wipe in p2 |
| 05:45.03 | falconindy | not much i can say except healers best be spamming their nuts off and melee needs to watch out for singularities |
| 05:45.03 | Groktar | er, wipe in p1 |
| 05:45.06 | Groktar | over and over again |
| 05:45.21 | Groktar | and we wait to do it until the last freaking wave |
| 05:45.22 | falconindy | ouch |
| 05:45.35 | Groktar | like, he's sitting at 4% |
| 05:45.48 | Groktar | waiting for the right time to transition |
| 05:45.54 | Groktar | and then skulls expode! |
| 05:45.55 | ccKep | 5min mark or 6min mark? |
| 05:45.58 | Groktar | 5m |
| 05:46.16 | Groktar | or |
| 05:46.20 | Groktar | he's sitting at 4% |
| 05:46.24 | Groktar | we're waiting for the transition |
| 05:46.31 | Groktar | and then mage spellsteals the buff |
| 05:46.38 | Groktar | and crits muru off the server |
| 05:46.48 | falconindy | way too fancy, imo |
| 05:46.50 | ccKep | stupidmage then |
| 05:46.57 | Groktar | it's all kinds of stupid |
| 05:47.10 | Groktar | it's like we take turns being stupid on the last wave |
| 05:47.32 | falconindy | m'uru dps needs to just keep up what they're doing, hold at 4-5% until side dps has a zerker remaining |
| 05:47.54 | Groktar | yes |
| 05:47.56 | Groktar | the point is |
| 05:48.04 | Groktar | people wait until the last second to fuck up |
| 05:48.08 | ccKep | just help with sentinels at like 4% and if the sentinel is near dead - fuckup muru ^.^ |
| 05:48.11 | Groktar | like, second to last sentinel |
| 05:48.43 | Groktar | they nuked him when the prot paladin wasn't there yet |
| 05:48.59 | Groktar | like it wasn't in it's tanking spot yet |
| 05:49.05 | falconindy | oh... you're only using 1 tank for sentinels? |
| 05:49.09 | Groktar | no |
| 05:49.12 | Groktar | 2 |
| 05:49.21 | falconindy | hmm |
| 05:49.22 | Groktar | we were doing 1 until the nerf |
| 05:49.36 | ccKep | one paladin for spawns and one warrior for sentinels here |
| 05:49.40 | Groktar | ya |
| 05:49.46 | falconindy | yeah, same here |
| 05:49.56 | Groktar | i really don't think it's the strat |
| 05:49.59 | falconindy | dunno... sounds like people just get excited when m'uru gets low.. poor play is poor |
| 05:50.04 | Groktar | ya |
| 05:50.27 | falconindy | gotta mash it into their skulls that the most important part of the fight is the transition to entropius |
| 05:50.31 | jaxdahl | it appears Baggins broke in the latest patch :( |
| 05:50.43 | steev | ugh |
| 05:50.47 | steev | i hate arenas |
| 05:50.54 | Groktar | i think they know |
| 05:51.03 | Groktar | and that's why they do stupid shit |
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| 05:51.15 | Groktar | like, my job is ridiculously easy |
| 05:51.22 | Groktar | i heal a druid tank on the near side |
| 05:51.43 | Groktar | i could just mash 4 on my keyboard for 5 minutes while watching tv |
| 05:51.46 | Groktar | and nobody would notice |
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| 05:52.27 | Groktar | he SHOULD be dead |
| 05:53.08 | CIA-45 | 03Sanjuro * r79372 10StatBlocks_TankStats/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 05:53.08 | CIA-45 | StatBlocks_TankStats: Initial commit |
| 05:53.08 | CIA-45 | - Tank stats block for SB v1 |
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| 05:55.39 | DARKGuy | Groktar: that's fun :) |
| 05:58.18 | kappaccino | did I tell you guys how much I loathe clickers |
| 05:58.32 | kappaccino | mostly clickers who put videos of themselves up |
| 05:58.52 | kappaccino | clicking away click click click click |
| 05:59.29 | steev | i click :( |
| 05:59.44 | steev | hate tabbing through links on websites |
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| 06:01.32 | kappawhat | what was that |
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| 06:02.24 | steev | i said i click, cuz i hate tabbing through links on websites |
| 06:02.52 | steev | have you ever tried not clicking when using the wowwiki or even the wowace wiki? its friggin annoying |
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| 06:03.06 | kappawhat | you're not cute |
| 06:04.32 | Aiiane | and you're not amusing |
| 06:04.32 | CIA-45 | 03starlon * r79373 10StarTip/Modules/Targeting.lua: StarTip: Put a space between names |
| 06:05.35 | kappawhat | T_T |
| 06:05.35 | steev | so, kgpanels is the successor to eepanels2, is there a way to import the layout somehow from eepanels2 or does it read the eepanels settings and use them? |
| 06:05.48 | steev | or, do you have to redo it all by hand |
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| 06:17.44 | Zyndrome | redo the panels |
| 06:19.13 | CIA-45 | 03jerry * r79374 10Talented/ (Locales/ruRU.lua locales.xml): Talented: Add ruRU locale, thanks Alekc |
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| 06:23.38 | Ellipsis | ack, since when does sun java bundle openoffice x.x |
| 06:24.04 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 06:26.13 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: since you stoped picking the advanced install option |
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| 06:28.40 | cncfanatics | hello all |
| 06:28.58 | ccKep | heya |
| 06:33.26 | Diao | hi |
| 06:33.48 | steev | Zyndrome: that sucks, okay |
| 06:34.35 | cncfanatics | god |
| 06:34.46 | cncfanatics | zeksie ponged me & I missed him yesterday |
| 06:34.52 | cncfanatics | Diao: got an idea if xperl got fixed ? |
| 06:35.03 | Diao | ah |
| 06:35.04 | Diao | yeah it did |
| 06:35.10 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 06:36.06 | cncfanatics | gonna fix some "potential" bugs with the grid & pitbull modules |
| 06:36.11 | cncfanatics | anyone know if setfenv is expensive ? |
| 06:38.18 | NeoTron | "Disappointment: Seeing you got new mail and realizing it was not a beta invite but Anjelina Jolie XXX Video Free." |
| 06:38.45 | nevcairiel | w00t free porn |
| 06:38.45 | cncfanatics | NeoTron: Disappointment: getting new mail with wrath of the lich king beta testing as subject and then seeing the headers |
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| 06:49.01 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79375 10Cartographer_Mining/ (Cartographer_Mining.toc addon.lua): |
| 06:49.01 | CIA-45 | Cartographer_Mining: |
| 06:49.01 | CIA-45 | - added ruRU localization |
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| 06:55.52 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: you get the same spam i do! |
| 06:55.56 | CIA-45 | 03neotron * r79376 10MagicTargets/MagicTargets.lua: MagicTargets: Detection of warrior as a tank (when using a shield) should work now. |
| 06:56.22 | jaxdahl | "Unable to consume potions until you rest out of combat for a short duration." |
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| 06:56.30 | jaxdahl | new debuff if you pop a potion while in a fight |
| 06:56.40 | cncfanatics | wha ? |
| 06:57.09 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember the last time i used a potion |
| 06:57.16 | Arrowmaster | i dont even carry them on me |
| 06:57.20 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: healers chug mana pots :) |
| 06:57.26 | Arrowmaster | warlock =D |
| 06:57.26 | jaxdahl | melee chug haste potions |
| 06:57.26 | erikh | ha ha! |
| 06:57.28 | cncfanatics | jaxdahl: duration of the debuff ? |
| 06:57.30 | jaxdahl | destro potions? |
| 06:57.35 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: get ur destro pots already |
| 06:57.36 | jaxdahl | cncfanatics, until you get out of combat |
| 06:57.37 | cncfanatics | if ur not, ur slacking |
| 06:57.39 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 06:57.40 | erikh | unless you're geared for crrrazy mana regen |
| 06:57.44 | jaxdahl | it has no duration |
| 06:57.45 | Arrowmaster | but ill pull aggro |
| 06:57.46 | cncfanatics | so basicly, one pot per fight ? |
| 06:57.49 | jaxdahl | basically. |
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| 06:57.55 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 06:58.01 | cncfanatics | thats gonna make my raids way cheaper |
| 06:58.36 | erikh | it just means you'll have to gear for it |
| 06:58.52 | erikh | popped mana pots on zul'jin tonight, first time in a long time |
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| 06:59.44 | cncfanatics | wll, erikh, i'm a druid |
| 06:59.45 | jaxdahl | it's like when they stopped stacking potions/elixirs/flasks |
| 06:59.51 | cncfanatics | my regen is already damn high :p |
| 06:59.55 | Neya_ | Alchemists should get some kind of immunity to that debuff, drugbrewers as they are. (not that I feel they really should) |
| 07:00.01 | erikh | cncfanatics: yeah, I am too. |
| 07:00.16 | erikh | between innervate and the blue dragon darkmoon card, i never run out of mana |
| 07:00.17 | Arrowmaster | well its making the alch trinkets perty useless |
| 07:00.25 | cncfanatics | don't got the blue dragon here |
| 07:00.30 | cncfanatics | what cards does it need again ? |
| 07:00.34 | NeoTron | so the new "Eternal Flames" is "Eternal Craps" |
| 07:00.35 | Neya_ | beasts |
| 07:00.35 | erikh | and before that I just had my lower city prayer book to pop everytime it's up |
| 07:00.42 | cncfanatics | ubrs time |
| 07:00.45 | erikh | cncfanatics: "the beast" in ubrs drops the ace |
| 07:00.46 | erikh | yeah |
| 07:01.00 | erikh | for now though, you can just get a lower city prayerbook and macro it up to lifebloom |
| 07:01.06 | erikh | it'll pop everytime it's available |
| 07:01.11 | erikh | and you'll save a ton of mana |
| 07:01.17 | cncfanatics | I did that |
| 07:01.19 | cncfanatics | got that :) |
| 07:01.27 | Neya_ | pity you can't open the door up there solo, I tried to solo the place once, got up to that fireelemental :( |
| 07:01.32 | erikh | yep |
| 07:01.50 | Arrowmaster | only need 3 right? |
| 07:01.58 | erikh | Neya_: yeah, I had to do it three times, first two times I soloed up to the fire elemental, and had 2 others help me through the rest of it |
| 07:02.04 | erikh | rend is hard to solo |
| 07:02.05 | Neya_ | correct, but my pet didn't count as two :P |
| 07:02.06 | erikh | well, the adds are |
| 07:02.25 | Arrowmaster | you can skip rend cant you |
| 07:02.34 | cncfanatics | don't think so |
| 07:02.42 | erikh | if there's some trick to open the door without killing him, i didn't know about it |
| 07:02.43 | Arrowmaster | theres a path to the right |
| 07:03.02 | Arrowmaster | before jumping down |
| 07:03.07 | erikh | yeah, which is shut until rend is downed |
| 07:03.10 | erikh | oh? |
| 07:03.10 | erikh | hm |
| 07:03.12 | Neya_ | there is, but there are two doors, don't know about the second if it opens without rend. |
| 07:03.26 | Arrowmaster | oh theres a door down that path too? |
| 07:03.38 | erikh | oh well, got a dal rend's sword off him :P |
| 07:03.53 | cncfanatics | hope I can get two guildies to help me with it |
| 07:04.06 | Neya_ | almost directly after the first, can't remeber if it is closed or not, I havn't been in ubrs since my attunment to bwl back at 60. |
| 07:04.08 | erikh | cncfanatics: yeah, just bring a DEer |
| 07:04.09 | Arrowmaster | get two alts around that level |
| 07:04.14 | erikh | tell them they can have the profits |
| 07:04.37 | erikh | you just get to need the card, should convince 2 people to come along. |
| 07:08.28 | NeoTron | it bugs me blizzard thought it fine to completely break a tier 10 talent... and probably didn't even realize how much it was broken |
| 07:08.45 | Arrowmaster | which? |
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| 07:10.38 | NeoTron | Eternal Flames: Now increases immolate damage by 5% and adds the 5% more dmg debuff as before |
| 07:10.43 | NeoTron | but doesn't renew the duration |
| 07:10.59 | NeoTron | si by the time you got it improved 5 times you have 1 more tick |
| 07:11.02 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
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| 07:11.13 | NeoTron | basically now I'd never pick it |
| 07:11.18 | NeoTron | would pick conflagrate instead |
| 07:11.18 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 07:11.22 | nevcairiel | its beta, QQ later |
| 07:11.39 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I just don't.. understand. |
| 07:11.44 | Arrowmaster | the damage increase resets? |
| 07:11.53 | NeoTron | it's pretty obvious that talent is not worth 5 points at the tier it's at |
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| 07:12.06 | nevcairiel | other classes have broken talents too |
| 07:12.10 | nevcairiel | just stop the QQing =P |
| 07:12.24 | NeoTron | I don't have a key yet or I would ;-) |
| 07:12.45 | Arrowmaster | its odd that they changed demonic sac back though |
| 07:12.47 | Groktar | i'm going to wait to qq until i see a 3.0ptr with screwed up talents |
| 07:12.53 | Arrowmaster | kinda wish they wouldnt have |
| 07:14.07 | cncfanatics | locks aren't imba enough yet :( |
| 07:14.13 | cncfanatics | you need even more deepeeessssss |
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| 07:15.40 | Groktar | votes to buff flurry back to 30% and give it an additional charge |
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| 07:17.25 | cncfanatics | Diao: ping, if you don't mind, I'd need your help again a bit :) |
| 07:17.39 | Diao | sure |
| 07:17.45 | Diao | whta's up |
| 07:18.02 | cncfanatics | need to test my changes to the grid code |
| 07:18.31 | cncfanatics | Diao: http://pastebin.com/d7d294670 is the new Grid_QuickHealth.lua file |
| 07:19.06 | NivFreak | wow, raidgurus put some much effort into their illidan strat video |
| 07:19.10 | NivFreak | and I think it's horrid |
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| 07:21.14 | Diao | so overwrite my current GQH with that text? |
| 07:21.23 | Diao | or is it on svn already |
| 07:22.21 | cncfanatics | overwrite |
| 07:22.25 | Diao | k |
| 07:22.25 | cncfanatics | will only commit it when I'm sure it works :) |
| 07:24.39 | Groktar | hrm |
| 07:24.47 | Diao | k let me reload my ui |
| 07:24.51 | Diao | and run into a bg |
| 07:25.15 | Groktar | what's gqh? |
| 07:25.18 | CIA-45 | 03jerry * r79377 10Talented_Data/ (5 files): Talented_Data: add ruRU locale |
| 07:25.24 | cncfanatics | place to most easely test it is as a prot pally in smv imo |
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| 07:25.38 | Diao | grid quickhealth |
| 07:25.56 | Groktar | what's it do? |
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| 07:26.06 | Diao | unfortunately my pally is holy :( |
| 07:26.32 | Diao | it's a libquickhealth plugin for grid Groktar |
| 07:26.42 | Groktar | but what does it do! |
| 07:26.43 | cncfanatics | purl to the rescue |
| 07:26.49 | cncfanatics | unfortunatly, my altgr key is broken :( |
| 07:26.56 | Diao | provides health updates based on combat log events as well as unit_health from bliz |
| 07:27.08 | Diao | ~libquickhealth |
| 07:27.09 | Diao | ? |
| 07:27.10 | Groktar | interesting |
| 07:27.14 | Diao | or something, lol |
| 07:27.16 | cncfanatics | ~quickhealth |
| 07:27.17 | purl | hmm... quickhealth is very similar to InstantHealth, is an that it tries to get around the 0.3seconds health update throttle from the server by getting data more often in the combatlog. |
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| 07:29.30 | Groktar | i didn't even know the combatlog would update ahead of unit health |
| 07:29.49 | cncfanatics | :) |
| 07:30.13 | Diao | combat log is instant, unit_health is throttled |
| 07:31.17 | Diao | seems to me that there are no errors |
| 07:31.22 | Diao | and health seems to be updating instantly |
| 07:31.23 | Groktar | i am so installing this addon as soon as you say it's ready |
| 07:31.25 | Groktar | :) |
| 07:31.26 | Diao | let me find a rogue to hit me too |
| 07:31.29 | Diao | that'll help a lot |
| 07:31.37 | Diao | rogue attacking me while i heal myself usually gives me a good indicator |
| 07:31.39 | Diao | or a bm hunter |
| 07:31.59 | Groktar | i can get on my warrior |
| 07:32.03 | Groktar | and autoswing at my priest |
| 07:32.12 | Groktar | he's furry |
| 07:32.22 | Groktar | go dual wield 1.6s weapons |
| 07:32.25 | Diao | lol |
| 07:32.37 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:32.40 | Diao | it looks like health is updating instantly |
| 07:33.56 | cncfanatics | Groktar: UNIT_HEALTH is throttled every 0.3 secs |
| 07:34.09 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79378 10RicoMiniMap/RicoMiniMap.lua: |
| 07:34.09 | CIA-45 | RicoMiniMap: |
| 07:34.09 | CIA-45 | - |
| 07:34.09 | CIA-45 | added ruRU translation |
| 07:34.11 | cncfanatics | so you need to get hit quite often to have a noticable difference |
| 07:34.16 | cncfanatics | it does make them more responsive though |
| 07:34.21 | Diao | well |
| 07:34.24 | Diao | i was just healing a warrior |
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| 07:34.30 | Diao | who was being attacked by 5 different people |
| 07:34.36 | cncfanatics | the its noticable :) |
| 07:34.38 | Diao | his hp kept jumping up and down |
| 07:34.43 | Diao | so i assume it's working |
| 07:34.54 | cncfanatics | well, if you think it updates more then 3 times a sec its working |
| 07:35.18 | Diao | considering it was 2 rogues, a mage, druid, and warior |
| 07:35.24 | Diao | i'm pretty sure it was more than 3 times a sec :p |
| 07:35.31 | Groktar | sounds like i should install it and then attribute all my healing failure to it |
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| 07:35.54 | Diao | warrior* |
| 07:35.56 | cncfanatics | Groktar: die |
| 07:36.00 | Groktar | :D |
| 07:36.07 | Groktar | gently pats cncfanatics |
| 07:36.21 | Groktar | i lurves you, too |
| 07:36.38 | cncfanatics | if(UnitName("player") == "Groktar") then while true do end end |
| 07:36.55 | Groktar | nooooooo |
| 07:36.58 | Groktar | :( |
| 07:37.06 | Diao | lol |
| 07:37.07 | Groktar | i am so searching your code for that |
| 07:37.11 | Diao | in any case, i think it's good to go |
| 07:37.38 | Groktar | anything that will help me beat foul Lotherr on meters |
| 07:37.55 | cncfanatics | Diao: could you test pitbull & sraidframes too ? :) |
| 07:38.18 | Diao | pitbull sure |
| 07:38.22 | Diao | i'll have to download srf to test |
| 07:38.49 | cncfanatics | I'm so glad I thought about using setfenv |
| 07:38.56 | cncfanatics | replacing the funcs the hard way would be such a pain |
| 07:39.43 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d193d17d6 pitbull |
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| 07:41.09 | cncfanatics | http://pastebin.com/d70dd1d49 srf |
| 07:41.28 | CIA-45 | 03kunda * r79379 10GridStatusAFK/ (GridStatusAFK.lua GridStatusAFK.toc): GridStatusAFK: fixed afk flag in bgs/arenas ('alert_afk' status for unit 'player' was not unset via SendStatusLost until first death when joining a bg/arena with afk flag) |
| 07:45.07 | cncfanatics | Zeksie: to be sure, you still call the regular UnitHealth when UNIT_HEALTH triggers and not the Quickhealth one right ? |
| 07:47.22 | cncfanatics | Diao: do both work ? :) |
| 07:47.25 | Diao | testing now |
| 07:47.30 | Diao | just got into a bg :p |
| 07:47.56 | Groktar | i have a giant bag of catnip in my desk |
| 07:47.59 | Groktar | (open) |
| 07:48.06 | Diao | o_o |
| 07:48.08 | Groktar | my cat is going berserk |
| 07:48.15 | Groktar | rubbing up against it |
| 07:48.20 | Groktar | drooling all over the place |
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| 07:50.21 | Groktar | he just got his drool all over my leg |
| 07:52.02 | cncfanatics | gonna make it work with blizz frames soon also |
| 07:52.10 | cncfanatics | just need to know if those two work first |
| 07:53.51 | cncfanatics | UNIT_HEALTH is not triggered for focus & targettarget ? |
| 07:53.54 | cncfanatics | i kinda can't believe that |
| 07:54.07 | Kuosi | sounds odd |
| 07:54.07 | cncfanatics | (some description text of an addon says so) |
| 07:54.21 | cncfanatics | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/12837/ ==> Also, due to no UNIT_HEALTH event being generated for the target of target and target of focus frames these frames may be updated slower then your other frames depending on what unit frames you are using and how they update these frames. |
| 07:55.00 | Kuosi | not like I ever need faster updates on those frames tho |
| 07:55.10 | cncfanatics | well, they're usualy hostile |
| 07:55.14 | Diao | yeah |
| 07:55.19 | Kuosi | don't rly need hp bars on em anyway |
| 07:55.23 | cncfanatics | usualy, not always though |
| 07:55.25 | Diao | strange that it wouldn't use a unit_health event though |
| 07:55.32 | Diao | i do need to know hp sometimes when i'm playing on my warr |
| 07:55.34 | cncfanatics | I think its bullshit :p |
| 07:55.35 | Diao | or shaman |
| 07:55.37 | Diao | to help burst |
| 07:55.39 | cncfanatics | well, a lot of healers |
| 07:55.41 | cncfanatics | target the boss |
| 07:55.47 | cncfanatics | and heal their targetoftarget |
| 07:55.59 | cncfanatics | so that one is important imo |
| 07:56.00 | Diao | that too |
| 07:56.06 | cncfanatics | also, Zeksie forgot those in xperl :p |
| 07:56.09 | cncfanatics | just checked |
| 07:56.37 | Kuosi | set aggro indicator on grid and you can remove all other unitframes np! |
| 07:56.56 | cncfanatics | Kuosi: thats what I do :) |
| 07:57.02 | cncfanatics | but I do like my stuff supporting all unitframes |
| 07:57.04 | Diao | i wish grid2 which was in dev would be finished ;( |
| 07:57.17 | Kuosi | have yet to check 2 out |
| 07:57.20 | cncfanatics | whats better on it then the current grid ? |
| 07:57.28 | cncfanatics | Diao: srf & pitbull work ? :p |
| 07:57.31 | Diao | supposed to be more efficient |
| 07:57.40 | Diao | they appear to |
| 07:58.02 | cncfanatics | oki |
| 07:58.03 | cncfanatics | great |
| 07:58.08 | Diao | or wait |
| 07:58.09 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:58.18 | Diao | weird |
| 07:58.22 | Diao | sraidframes is giving me an error |
| 07:58.27 | Diao | not the quickhealth mod but the mod itself |
| 07:58.27 | cncfanatics | which one ? |
| 07:58.28 | Diao | lol |
| 07:58.36 | cncfanatics | might be related to the env changes i did |
| 07:58.37 | Diao | it's upon load though |
| 07:58.46 | cncfanatics | try disabling sRaidQuickHealth and see if it happens again |
| 07:59.13 | cncfanatics | ~seen Zeksie |
| 07:59.15 | purl | zeksie is currently on #wowuidev (21h 26m 31s) #wowace (21h 26m 31s) #curseforge (21h 26m 31s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 3h 36m, last said: 'don't need to use exists if using help, can only help something that exists. same for harm, if it's harmful, it must exist.'. |
| 08:01.17 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 08:01.28 | cncfanatics | would updating the blizz health bar (just the health bar, nothing else) cause taint ? |
| 08:02.34 | Arrowmaster | probably not since youd only be calling a function |
| 08:02.52 | cncfanatics | well, i'd prolly want to set their value manualy |
| 08:02.56 | Arrowmaster | although i dont know if that would taint on the query of the value |
| 08:03.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know i ment calling the widget function of the statusbar to set its value |
| 08:03.41 | cncfanatics | Diao: still get an error in sRaidFrames without quickhealth ? |
| 08:03.46 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: hmmm, needs testing |
| 08:03.48 | cncfanatics | sucks I'm at work |
| 08:04.05 | Diao | i got some insane errors on sraidframes about attempting to perform arithmetic |
| 08:04.09 | Diao | i'm reloading ui now to test |
| 08:04.12 | Diao | without the quickhealth mod |
| 08:04.37 | cncfanatics | unlikely to be related to quickhealth |
| 08:04.49 | cncfanatics | if quickhealth has a nit value it'll just call UnitHealth and return that value instead |
| 08:05.05 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:05.15 | Diao | reloading ui without quickhealth fixes the initial error at least |
| 08:05.22 | Diao | let me turn it back on and try again |
| 08:05.46 | cncfanatics | weird |
| 08:06.01 | cncfanatics | its quite unlikely its quickhealth |
| 08:08.00 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:08.04 | Diao | maybe it's because i relogged inside a bg |
| 08:08.22 | cncfanatics | no errors at all ? |
| 08:08.29 | Diao | yep |
| 08:08.33 | Diao | gonna try zoning into a bg now |
| 08:08.34 | cncfanatics | at least it's not quickhealth |
| 08:09.55 | Diao | yeah it's working normally now |
| 08:10.11 | Diao | i guess it's because i logged out of a bg and then logged in and was still in the bg |
| 08:10.23 | Diao | once the game starts i can test if the health is updating quickly or not |
| 08:11.37 | cncfanatics | it should normaly |
| 08:11.44 | cncfanatics | the way I do it is quite failsafe (at least I hope it is) |
| 08:12.33 | Diao | yep |
| 08:12.37 | Diao | health updates appear to be instant |
| 08:12.57 | cncfanatics | good |
| 08:13.00 | cncfanatics | <3 for tests |
| 08:15.27 | Diao | and now to delete srf since i use grid :D |
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| 08:16.42 | cncfanatics | feel free to report the relog in bg bug |
| 08:17.29 | CIA-45 | 03cncfanatics * r79380 10PitBull_QuickHealth/ (PitBull_QuickHealth.lua PitBull_QuickHealth.toc): PitBull_QuickHealth: Only change the env when HealthUpdated from QuickHealth triggers, so blizz' UnitHealth function is used by PitBull when UNIT_HEALTH triggers |
| 08:17.55 | DoktorJet | Any1 of Ace Admins here? |
| 08:18.12 | *** join/#wowace Kazie (n=k@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 08:18.19 | Elkano | why do you ask? |
| 08:18.31 | cncfanatics | DoktorJet: |
| 08:18.33 | cncfanatics | ~asktoask |
| 08:18.33 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 08:19.13 | DoktorJet | Want to know when I will gwt my SVN login |
| 08:19.24 | nevcairiel | when did you apply? |
| 08:19.42 | Elkano | Normaly about 1 week after hell has frozen over |
| 08:20.39 | Zhinjio | Elkano ... Ackis mentioned you were one of the people asking about the new GUI for ARL |
| 08:20.41 | nevcairiel | wtf is with those rings http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/ringskirintor.jpg |
| 08:20.48 | CIA-45 | 03cncfanatics * r79381 10sRaidFrames_QuickHealth/sRaidFrames_QuickHealth.lua: sRaidFrames_QuickHealth: Only change the env when HealthUpdated from QuickHealth triggers, so blizz' UnitHealth function is used by PitBull when UNIT_HEALTH triggers |
| 08:20.56 | Diao | what do you mean nevcairiel? |
| 08:20.57 | DoktorJet | Bout a week ago... A bunch of russian localizations wait to be uploaded =) |
| 08:21.08 | nevcairiel | the price |
| 08:21.16 | nevcairiel | i mean, an additional port is nice and all |
| 08:21.24 | nevcairiel | but 7.6k gold? |
| 08:21.40 | Diao | i'm guessing gold is even easier to get than bc? |
| 08:21.44 | cncfanatics | prolly is |
| 08:21.53 | Diao | i mean, right now you can easily make 200+g an hour on dailies |
| 08:22.09 | cncfanatics | well, I make about 300g a day by logging my bank alt for 1 minute |
| 08:22.25 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:22.26 | Diao | i mean |
| 08:22.34 | Diao | i sit in town doing nothing, mostly afk while reading forums |
| 08:22.36 | Diao | until people ask for an enchanter |
| 08:22.40 | Diao | and i do enchants for them |
| 08:22.45 | Diao | 10-50g tips |
| 08:22.50 | cncfanatics | well, I'm always instanced |
| 08:22.51 | cncfanatics | so can't do that |
| 08:22.55 | Diao | make a couple hundred a day not even paying attention to the game |
| 08:22.59 | Diao | lol |
| 08:23.03 | cncfanatics | I just log my JC'er, buy uncut earthstorm diamonds, cut em into REDs, AH em |
| 08:23.08 | Diao | i sit in town while reading/doing hw/etc |
| 08:23.15 | Diao | and just wait for people to ask for enchants |
| 08:23.28 | cncfanatics | that means u have to pay attention to trade |
| 08:23.32 | DoktorJet | so... what about SVN login? Signed --Dr. Jet Cheshirsky 13:13, 21 July 2008 (EDT) |
| 08:23.33 | cncfanatics | on maggy that takes all of ur time |
| 08:23.49 | Lukian | DoktorJet, how long have you been waiting? |
| 08:23.54 | Diao | oh i don't cncfanatics |
| 08:24.17 | Diao | i have chatter set up to display in my screen in trade when someone says wtb |
| 08:24.18 | CIA-45 | 03cncfanatics * r79382 10Grid_QuickHealth/Grid_QuickHealth.lua: Grid_QuickHealth: Only change the env when HealthUpdated from QuickHealth triggers, so blizz' UnitHealth function is used by PitBull when UNIT_HEALTH triggers |
| 08:24.21 | nevcairiel | DoktorJet: did you send the mail asking for access? |
| 08:24.23 | DoktorJet | 21 to 29 July is 8 days =) wore than a week in fact. Anyway, addons are not getting younger $) |
| 08:24.25 | Diao | :p |
| 08:24.33 | cncfanatics | Diao: watching those takes ur full attention on maggy :) |
| 08:24.35 | Lukian | DoktorJet, come back in 3wks and ask again, svn logins are manually batched :p |
| 08:24.41 | DoktorJet | surely i did send a mail |
| 08:24.42 | Lukian | it takes about that long ^_^ |
| 08:24.47 | Diao | ah |
| 08:24.48 | nevcairiel | then bother Funkeh` =P |
| 08:25.09 | steev | Diao: should set it up to play a sound (if thats possible) |
| 08:25.15 | Diao | it is possible :p |
| 08:25.31 | steev | i don't use chatter so i don't know :) |
| 08:25.40 | Zhinjio | it is possible. I have one for my name heh |
| 08:25.42 | Diao | but yeah, with how easy it is to make gold |
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| 08:25.47 | Diao | i'm sure 7600g isn't a big deal in wrath |
| 08:25.51 | Elkano | Zhinjio, well, at least I had a look at it ^^ |
| 08:26.01 | Zhinjio | want to see the latest mockup? |
| 08:26.11 | steev | those stats seem kinda weak |
| 08:26.13 | Zhinjio | http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2315-1/arl_0003.jpg |
| 08:26.16 | steev | except the attack power |
| 08:27.02 | cncfanatics | well, I'll buy one just for the teleport tbh |
| 08:27.09 | steev | oh i will too |
| 08:27.15 | nevcairiel | I'll just use my hearthstone =P |
| 08:27.24 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:27.28 | Diao | the stats aren't too bad honestly |
| 08:27.29 | Elkano | hmm, maybe you shouldn't move the filter button so one could do a quick expand/collapse to have look at the filters |
| 08:27.37 | Diao | becasue you get 3 stats + the base stats |
| 08:27.42 | Diao | you used to only get 2 |
| 08:27.42 | Zhinjio | hmm. interesting point. |
| 08:27.53 | Zhinjio | it is more obious that it expands/contracts when it moves, but you're right. |
| 08:28.07 | cncfanatics | also |
| 08:28.08 | Diao | haste/crit/(ap or sp) vs haste/ap or crit/ap |
| 08:28.12 | cncfanatics | will both rings share cooldowns ? |
| 08:28.16 | cncfanatics | if they don't, I'm buying both :p |
| 08:28.19 | Diao | i'd assume they would |
| 08:28.20 | steev | probably will |
| 08:28.28 | Diao | just like hearth and those shoes from kara do |
| 08:28.41 | steev | or astral recall and... oh wait, woot for 15 minute hearths |
| 08:28.45 | Diao | haha |
| 08:28.52 | steev | now if only we had bubbles |
| 08:29.02 | Diao | mages have it best |
| 08:29.11 | Arrowmaster | except doesnt astral recall put your hearth on a 1h cooldown too? |
| 08:29.13 | Diao | your hearths are limited to how many reagents you have |
| 08:29.16 | Diao | nope, it doesn't |
| 08:29.28 | ccKep | http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/files/1/dk_flying_mount_original.jpg <<< LOL @ model |
| 08:29.30 | Diao | you can AR then hearth, or hearth then AR right away |
| 08:29.36 | steev | yep |
| 08:29.47 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 08:29.53 | cncfanatics | ccKep: I RLY hope that its a temporary one |
| 08:29.57 | cncfanatics | it looks ridiculous |
| 08:30.05 | Diao | sure does |
| 08:30.13 | nevcairiel | man the gfx quality of the guy taking the screenshot is so low |
| 08:30.17 | Diao | anyway, afk |
| 08:30.19 | CIA-45 | 03nikkodemus * r79383 10Acheron/ (Locales/Locale-deDE.lua Locales.xml): |
| 08:30.19 | CIA-45 | Acheron: |
| 08:30.19 | CIA-45 | - deDE localization |
| 08:30.21 | Diao | have an exam in the morning |
| 08:30.27 | cncfanatics | g'luck |
| 08:30.27 | Diao | let me know if you need me to test anything else later :p |
| 08:30.42 | cncfanatics | I'm home in 7h30 |
| 08:30.46 | cncfanatics | :( |
| 08:30.47 | Arrowmaster | probably still has the screenshot quality setting set at its default of 3/10 or whatever it is |
| 08:31.02 | steev | or you can ar, port to the island, grab the ley lines quest, use teleport, hit smv, get the armaments, ar back to shat, port to island, hearth back to shat |
| 08:31.05 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: nah, the 3d rendering is all full of aliasing etc |
| 08:31.49 | nevcairiel | WoR needs to learn to increase rendering quality for screenshots =P |
| 08:32.08 | Arrowmaster | steev: wtf? 'use teleport, hit smv' who the fuck would do that when you can port directly to smv |
| 08:32.40 | nevcairiel | illidan port necklace ftw :D |
| 08:32.50 | steev | Arrowmaster: my job doesn't let me raid anymore :( |
| 08:33.25 | Orionshock | so is there another mega city in WotLK? |
| 08:33.26 | Lukian | !ar 1326 |
| 08:33.27 | Xinhuan | 1326 arena points require 2275(5s), 3186(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 08:33.29 | Orionshock | like shat? |
| 08:33.29 | steev | so i gotta go with what i can |
| 08:33.31 | Lukian | !ap 1326 |
| 08:33.31 | Xinhuan | 1326 rating gives 305(5s), 269(3s) and 232(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 08:33.37 | nevcairiel | Orionshock: dalaran |
| 08:34.02 | NeoTron | wtf DK's get their own flying mount?! |
| 08:34.06 | *** join/#wowace yoshimo (n=chatzill@p5B0C3261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:34.08 | NeoTron | where is the epic demonic flyer for warlocks! |
| 08:34.22 | clad|sleep | eff warlocks |
| 08:34.23 | NeoTron | it seems like they are making DK's a bit too cool |
| 08:34.31 | nevcairiel | its a hero class :P |
| 08:34.41 | steev | which will be the downfall of wow |
| 08:34.41 | Arrowmaster | they should give us illidan as a flying mount |
| 08:34.48 | sb | wth is potion sickness? |
| 08:35.03 | cncfanatics | sb: as soon as u use a potion in combat |
| 08:35.06 | nevcairiel | But i really wouldnt play a DK just to get the mount |
| 08:35.07 | cncfanatics | at lasts till ur out of combat |
| 08:35.15 | cncfanatics | well,; druids get their own "mount" too |
| 08:35.16 | sb | uh? so no more mana potions in combat? |
| 08:35.18 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: the sum of the whole |
| 08:35.21 | cncfanatics | sb: just one |
| 08:35.30 | sb | mhh - this sucks? :p |
| 08:35.33 | cladhaire | thats a good thing |
| 08:35.34 | Kuosi | less rng in wotlk pls |
| 08:35.34 | cladhaire | no, its not |
| 08:35.40 | cncfanatics | sb: thats good |
| 08:35.41 | cladhaire | it means that they can balance the encounters easier |
| 08:35.44 | cladhaire | and less farming |
| 08:35.50 | Arrowmaster | sucks for alchs |
| 08:35.53 | cncfanatics | it means devs won't balance encounters anymore thinking u'll chain chug |
| 08:35.55 | cladhaire | yes, that it does :P |
| 08:36.02 | Kuosi | lost s4 shoulders yesterday on my war when priest decided to dodge execute at 3% :( |
| 08:36.06 | Kuosi | esports hip hei |
| 08:36.10 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: I don't play classes because they're cool, i play them because i like the class itself, the playstyle involved etc =P |
| 08:36.11 | sb | yay, going to respec to inscription then :p no more alchemy ;) |
| 08:36.13 | Arrowmaster | guess theres no alch stone trinket in wotlk |
| 08:36.23 | cncfanatics | I'm LW/skinning & alch/JC atm |
| 08:36.31 | cncfanatics | I'll drop skinning & go inscript prolly at wotlk |
| 08:36.39 | Kuosi | i got enchanting on 4 chars :o |
| 08:36.53 | Arrowmaster | i really need to drop mining and pickup enchanting |
| 08:36.54 | Lukian | !ap 1332 |
| 08:36.55 | Xinhuan | 1332 rating gives 307(5s), 270(3s) and 233(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 08:37.02 | Kuosi | ring enchants too good to pass atm |
| 08:37.03 | nevcairiel | I'll see how mighty the inscript bonus is, and what they give alchemists |
| 08:37.06 | nevcairiel | cant say it yet |
| 08:37.16 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: naturally.. but DK seems pretty cool in that aspect :P |
| 08:37.18 | sb | # Circle of Healing: Cooldown removed. Rank 1 Mana cost changed from 300 to 370. <--!!! :p |
| 08:37.27 | sb | i hope it will stay removed ::/ |
| 08:37.36 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 08:37.42 | nevcairiel | sb: they already said they're still testing it, and there is a good chance its coming back |
| 08:37.42 | cncfanatics | I might get ring enchants on wotlk too |
| 08:37.44 | Lukian | sb: raidwide now too? |
| 08:37.44 | cncfanatics | depends on what's best |
| 08:37.52 | sb | nevcairielL yup, i know |
| 08:38.05 | NeoTron | there's more inherit mana regen in raids too |
| 08:38.06 | jaxdahl | anyone notice mobs have no armor? |
| 08:38.22 | nevcairiel | What stuff is only "group" based anyway? |
| 08:38.23 | Arrowmaster | well LW and Alch have gotten the raiding nerfbats so far... whats next? |
| 08:38.26 | nevcairiel | SPriest regen? |
| 08:38.32 | NeoTron | I figured it is |
| 08:38.45 | steev | how long does it take from commit til it gens the zips? |
| 08:38.46 | nevcairiel | totems and auras are raid wide |
| 08:38.49 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: LW is good. every person in the raid having to go LW for drums was retarded |
| 08:38.50 | cncfanatics | they already nerfed that didn't they ? |
| 08:39.06 | cladhaire | same with the alch change |
| 08:39.13 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: oh i agree, drums were retardedly overpowered |
| 08:39.13 | sb | * New Calendar feature: Players will be able to access the new Calendar feature by clicking on the new icon located in the top right corner of their mini map. The calendar will track in game events, allow raid scheduling, and more. |
| 08:39.15 | sb | oh |
| 08:39.16 | Kazie | In Pitbull when using: [IsPet ? Owner:ClassColor " " Name:Angle ! IsPlayer ? Name:ClassColor ! Name] [(AFK or DND):Angle] for target name, it colors the owner of pet classes a wrong color, such as hunters are colored brown(warrior) .. if i then use [IsPet ? Owner:ClassColor('player') ..... it colors all classes my class .. how do i make it color the names the correct color for each pet class? |
| 08:39.18 | cladhaire | they SUCK for the pepoepl who have been funding their illicit behavior through their profession |
| 08:39.19 | sb | thats very nice :) |
| 08:39.21 | NeoTron | cladhaire: not disagreeing |
| 08:39.21 | cladhaire | but they are good changes |
| 08:39.28 | NeoTron | there will be a massive amount of regen |
| 08:39.28 | cladhaire | :P |
| 08:39.33 | cncfanatics | cladhaire: I'm a JC, so I'm happy |
| 08:39.35 | NeoTron | and as a warlock why o I care? :P |
| 08:39.44 | cncfanatics | no more destro pot chugging :p |
| 08:39.46 | NeoTron | oh yeah did they post any more epic JC only stuff? |
| 08:39.57 | cncfanatics | well, my bank alt is JC |
| 08:40.04 | cncfanatics | so, the BoP stuff is a loss for me |
| 08:40.07 | NeoTron | I want the damn JC neck from swp to drop |
| 08:40.14 | NeoTron | I'm the only dps caster that's a JC |
| 08:40.19 | cncfanatics | I want to start raiding already |
| 08:40.29 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79384 10CastYeller/announces/ (shaman.lua warlock.lua warrior.lua): CastYeller: shaman, warlock and warrior announces converted to spell ids. |
| 08:40.33 | NeoTron | might go JC/inscription on my main |
| 08:40.49 | NeoTron | right now JC/mining - figured mining is nice for leveling but I won't keep it |
| 08:40.56 | NeoTron | dropping it, at the latest, when I've maxed Jc |
| 08:41.16 | cncfanatics | well, I'm LW/skinner |
| 08:41.26 | cncfanatics | dropping skinning & getting a useful prof when I'm 80 |
| 08:41.41 | nevcairiel | I'm Alch/Herb |
| 08:41.45 | nevcairiel | probably not going to switch |
| 08:42.01 | Arrowmaster | oh shit i just realized something, theyve already shown some inscriptions for turning mage sheep into a penguin and druid bear form into a polar bear, seems the warlock one is going to be perty obvious |
| 08:42.02 | nevcairiel | Herbing is so easy as a druid |
| 08:42.10 | NeoTron | my hunter is herb/lw and my pally herb/alch |
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| 08:42.24 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: turing the warlock into a nerf bat? |
| 08:42.27 | nevcairiel | I may dump Alch for inscription |
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| 08:42.35 | cncfanatics | turn warlocks into a RAID BOSS |
| 08:42.36 | nevcairiel | if the bonus is really an additional glypsh slot |
| 08:42.36 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: GREEN FIRE! |
| 08:42.42 | NeoTron | ppl have asked for it |
| 08:42.46 | NeoTron | on the beta forums :P |
| 08:42.51 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so it seems |
| 08:42.56 | NeoTron | and yes I'll most likly pick that up |
| 08:42.57 | cncfanatics | well, I want more then just polar bear for druids |
| 08:42.58 | Arrowmaster | as an inscription? |
| 08:43.01 | cncfanatics | I want a decent looking tree form |
| 08:43.04 | sb | there is some really OP'ed glyph stuff :o |
| 08:43.13 | nevcairiel | Yeah some of the glyphs are really OP |
| 08:43.18 | sb | Glyph of Swiftmend e.g. |
| 08:43.20 | NeoTron | only druid stuff atm right? |
| 08:43.27 | nevcairiel | i think so |
| 08:43.28 | NeoTron | there's some that's good and bad |
| 08:43.30 | nevcairiel | and they are OP :P |
| 08:43.36 | NeoTron | like the one that makes moonfire more of a dot vs up front damage |
| 08:43.49 | NeoTron | good for raiding I presume |
| 08:44.07 | sb | # Glyph of Swiftmend - Your Swiftmend ability no longer consumes a Rejuvenation or Regrowth effect from the target. <-- perfect for raiding and pvp and and :o |
| 08:44.27 | NeoTron | nice |
| 08:44.32 | nevcairiel | the innervate one is nice too |
| 08:44.33 | NeoTron | so it's just an instant heal |
| 08:44.41 | NeoTron | I like the one that turns Healing Touch into more of a Flash heal type spell |
| 08:44.49 | NeoTron | heals for less, uses less mana and has 1.5s shorter cast time |
| 08:44.53 | nevcairiel | yeah 1.5s cast time reduce is insane |
| 08:44.59 | NeoTron | worse mana/hp ratio |
| 08:45.08 | NeoTron | 1.5s cast HT |
| 08:45.09 | nevcairiel | although kidna useless |
| 08:45.15 | nevcairiel | seeing that we get nourish already |
| 08:45.16 | NeoTron | depends |
| 08:45.29 | NeoTron | it's interesting |
| 08:45.39 | sb | i still dont get all that nourish/flourish/wtfish stuff :) |
| 08:45.39 | NeoTron | tree form probably still will win |
| 08:45.49 | nevcairiel | you can cast HT in tree form |
| 08:45.58 | nevcairiel | you just dont get the mana cost reduction on it |
| 08:46.08 | NeoTron | it seems they want locks to do immo/nukeXN/conflag/SBx3/immo/nuke etc |
| 08:46.39 | NeoTron | it costs less mana, heals for less and cast faster with worse hp per mana ratio aka Flash of Healing Touch |
| 08:46.55 | cncfanatics | well, nourish owns it in that case |
| 08:47.10 | NeoTron | gives druids a spammable fast healing spell |
| 08:47.11 | cncfanatics | I don't see the point of making HT like that |
| 08:47.11 | nevcairiel | even the lifebloom glyph, one second doesnt seem like alot, but it allows you to add an additional target to the LB cycle |
| 08:47.22 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 08:47.22 | NeoTron | 1s is pretty hot yeah |
| 08:47.30 | cncfanatics | can you peeps link me to all the druid glyphs ? |
| 08:47.35 | NeoTron | mind you I did not heal with druids in BC |
| 08:47.39 | nevcairiel | mmo-champion |
| 08:47.43 | NeoTron | but pre-bc the lack of such a spell was irritating |
| 08:47.55 | NeoTron | I understand BC changed druid healing a lot |
| 08:48.10 | nevcairiel | yeah lifebloom and treeform changed it drastically |
| 08:48.10 | NeoTron | I'd say it would makes druids a bit better for single helaing 5-mans |
| 08:48.19 | *** part/#wowace yoshimo (n=chatzill@p5B0C3261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:48.32 | NeoTron | keep hots up on the tank and intermix with 1.5s healing touches |
| 08:48.38 | nevcairiel | you can changes glyphs, i assume |
| 08:48.42 | Zhinjio | what a fantastic logo: http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles/a74_dance.jpg |
| 08:48.44 | nevcairiel | so we'll have a choice per-fight |
| 08:48.46 | NeoTron | I'd assume it's like an enchant |
| 08:48.48 | cncfanatics | NeoTron: nourish does that better |
| 08:48.49 | NeoTron | one time use and all that |
| 08:48.52 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 08:48.58 | Zhinjio | there you have a web designer who is either very good or very bad. |
| 08:49.05 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: explain nourish? isn't that a hot? |
| 08:49.09 | cncfanatics | no |
| 08:49.13 | cncfanatics | its a 1.5 sec cast heal |
| 08:49.17 | cncfanatics | that is more efficient then HT |
| 08:49.22 | nevcairiel | Nourish is a 1.5s direct heal |
| 08:49.27 | NeoTron | ok |
| 08:49.30 | cncfanatics | and heals 20% more if a HoT is up on your target |
| 08:49.32 | nevcairiel | gets +% bonus if there is a HoT on the target |
| 08:49.33 | NeoTron | then the change to HT doesn't make sense |
| 08:49.43 | NeoTron | is it a talented spell? |
| 08:49.47 | cncfanatics | no |
| 08:49.48 | nevcairiel | no |
| 08:49.50 | cncfanatics | baseline 80 |
| 08:49.50 | nevcairiel | base spell |
| 08:49.52 | cncfanatics | well, does it still heal as much as the 3sec cast ? |
| 08:49.53 | nevcairiel | only lvl 80, though |
| 08:49.57 | NeoTron | yeah so I'm confused now too |
| 08:50.00 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: no, 50% |
| 08:50.21 | NeoTron | I bet one difference is a 1.5s healing touch would scale like a 3.5 sec spell |
| 08:50.22 | nevcairiel | well not all glyphs have to be great =P |
| 08:50.24 | NeoTron | so it would scale better |
| 08:50.29 | Kazie | How do i make DogTags color the owners name the correct class color when targeting a pet with [IsPet ? Owner " " Name:Angle !...... ??? if i use Owner:ClassColor it colors hunters brown as warriors and if i use Owner:ClassColor('player') it colors all pet owners green as if they were hunters. |
| 08:50.44 | nevcairiel | yeah it'll probably heal a bit more |
| 08:50.51 | cncfanatics | can't find the glyphs on mmochamp :( |
| 08:50.56 | nevcairiel | scroll down |
| 08:51.03 | nevcairiel | end of that big post |
| 08:51.07 | NeoTron | must say mmo champion is outpacing worldofraids with beta information |
| 08:51.09 | cncfanatics | found em |
| 08:51.50 | NeoTron | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/ringskirintor.jpg yowza |
| 08:51.56 | cncfanatics | Glyph of Innervate - Your innervate ability now has an additional 20% strength mana regeneration effect on you in addition to the effect on your primary target. nice |
| 08:52.06 | NeoTron | an extra hearth? |
| 08:52.18 | NeoTron | oh I like the 15m inscription only scroll of recall :P |
| 08:52.19 | nevcairiel | Doesnt say if those glyphs are considered major, minor etc |
| 08:52.50 | cncfanatics | it does |
| 08:52.53 | NeoTron | pretty sick rings too |
| 08:52.56 | cncfanatics | well, some do |
| 08:52.57 | cncfanatics | most don't |
| 08:53.27 | nevcairiel | how many glyphs do you have? |
| 08:53.31 | cncfanatics | 2 of each |
| 08:53.32 | cncfanatics | iirc |
| 08:53.41 | cncfanatics | not sure |
| 08:53.47 | cncfanatics | there's a screenie of the interface somewhere |
| 08:53.47 | nevcairiel | would be nice to know which are what =P |
| 08:53.56 | nevcairiel | but all in due time |
| 08:54.14 | cncfanatics | anyway, suposing we can use 2 glyphs that affect our major spells |
| 08:54.16 | NeoTron | yeah six total, 2 of each kind |
| 08:54.19 | cncfanatics | I'll be going swiftmend + lifebloom |
| 08:56.40 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowinsider.com/photos/wrath-of-the-lich-king-in-game-calendar/ sexy |
| 08:56.43 | Arrowmaster | "Avoidance: Now automatically learned for the Succubus, Imp, Voidwalker and Felhunter at level 10." BEST CHANGE EVAR! |
| 08:56.55 | nevcairiel | I dont think they will be like enchants though |
| 08:57.00 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: Well, when combined with the change to avoidance to make it not suck. |
| 08:57.01 | nevcairiel | would make respeccing a total mess |
| 08:57.14 | nevcairiel | more like items you place into the slots |
| 08:57.20 | Codayus | cncfanatics: Yeah, those two cought my eye. REALLY want to see other classes, if Druids get stuff like THAT. |
| 08:57.24 | Arrowmaster | i didnt see any other change except for teh felguard only one |
| 08:57.59 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: hopefully |
| 08:58.03 | Codayus | *nod* That was the one. Damage reduction is WAY better than chance to avoid. Should make felguard spec more raid viable... |
| 08:58.04 | cncfanatics | but I kinda doubt it |
| 08:58.11 | cncfanatics | cuz that means u'll only need one ever |
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| 08:58.32 | cncfanatics | Codayus: warlocks are gonna be immune to sap, sheep, gouge, etc as demo :s |
| 08:58.38 | sb | is there any information about the modifer for spell power + healing spells? |
| 08:58.40 | cncfanatics | bit OP in pvp imo :p |
| 08:58.40 | Daemona | uhm, beta updater freaking out for anyone else? |
| 08:58.43 | cncfanatics | sb: yes |
| 08:58.49 | cncfanatics | there will be one common spellpower stat |
| 08:58.55 | sb | yes, i know :p |
| 08:58.58 | cncfanatics | but healing spells get an additional 1.8 in scaling |
| 08:59.02 | sb | ah 1.8 okay |
| 08:59.30 | Arrowmaster | "Felhunter: Paranoia and Tainted Blood have been replaced with Fel Intelligence and Shadow Bite." now tainted blood was always shitty but losing paranoia is a little sad |
| 08:59.34 | cncfanatics | gonna be anoying to fight over dps with loot though |
| 08:59.43 | cncfanatics | as our guild policy is shared loot goes first to tanks, then dps, then healers |
| 08:59.44 | sb | yup... |
| 09:00.02 | nevcairiel | lots of items wont be shared anyway |
| 09:00.06 | cncfanatics | true |
| 09:00.09 | nevcairiel | consider crit/hit vs mp5 |
| 09:00.19 | Codayus | cncfanatics: May need to revise the policy... Or not, itemization is still not identical even for all DPS casters. |
| 09:00.44 | Arrowmaster | yeah itemization is still very different depending on class and spec |
| 09:00.46 | cncfanatics | well, considering more & more classes are gonna have spirit regen |
| 09:00.53 | cncfanatics | might change a bit |
| 09:01.08 | Arrowmaster | well its not like there was much choice on spirit |
| 09:01.30 | cncfanatics | how so ? |
| 09:02.01 | Arrowmaster | i can think of lots of items in TBC raids with spirit that are still good without it |
| 09:02.11 | Arrowmaster | but could have been a lot better without it |
| 09:02.24 | cncfanatics | well, I'm a druid, so I kinda like spirit :p |
| 09:02.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah for us clothies its different |
| 09:02.52 | Arrowmaster | right now as a warlock its 100% useless to me |
| 09:03.01 | cncfanatics | yea true |
| 09:03.12 | cncfanatics | get out of 5sec rule more :D |
| 09:03.14 | Arrowmaster | but before sunwell it was still on a lot of the best items for some slots |
| 09:03.34 | cncfanatics | thats anoying |
| 09:03.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 09:03.55 | Kazie | Can anyone tell me how i can make DogTags use a pet owners class color instead of the pets classcolor when using "[IsPet ? Owner:ClassColor........" ?? |
| 09:04.02 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 09:12.56 | Cheads | hmm cannot select an item in the auction house.... odd problem |
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| 09:33.08 | yoshimo | how about a visualheal-module for libquickhealth? |
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| 09:39.32 | cncfanatics | yoshimo: can you link me to visual heal ? |
| 09:44.40 | cncfanatics | yoshimo: ping ? |
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| 09:58.52 | yoshimo | yes i can, sry was ingame |
| 09:59.11 | cncfanatics | btw, who's it's author |
| 09:59.12 | cncfanatics | ? |
| 09:59.22 | cncfanatics | ~visualheal |
| 09:59.43 | yoshimo | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=7521.0 xbeeps i think |
| 09:59.51 | cncfanatics | is he usualy on this chan ? |
| 10:00.08 | cncfanatics | best thing you can do is ask the author to implement it |
| 10:00.13 | cncfanatics | it only takes a few minutes to do so |
| 10:00.19 | cncfanatics | if he doesn't want to , I'll look into it |
| 10:00.46 | yoshimo | last seen 167 d ago :) |
| 10:01.21 | cncfanatics | I mean on the forum thread: ) |
| 10:01.31 | cncfanatics | or was he last seen on the forums 167d ago ? :p |
| 10:02.04 | nevcairiel | ~seen xbeeps |
| 10:02.05 | purl | xbeeps <n=xbeeps@2603ds1-giu.0.fullrate.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 167d 15h 18m 48s ago, saying: 'quick question: is LibDogTag-2.0 a drop-in replacement for DogTag-1.0 ?'. |
| 10:02.20 | nevcairiel | probably not forums :p |
| 10:03.11 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 10:03.12 | cncfanatics | some bug it seems |
| 10:03.22 | cncfanatics | dunno if its xperl or quickhealth though |
| 10:03.34 | cncfanatics | Diao: ping |
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| 10:08.39 | CIA-45 | 03laotseu * r79385 10/trunk/ (FuBar_DominosFu/ Fubar_DominosFu/): |
| 10:08.40 | CIA-45 | FuBar_DominosFu: |
| 10:08.40 | CIA-45 | - Renamed the folder from Fobar_DominosFu to FuBar_DominosFu |
| 10:09.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 10:09.59 | FinalX | ... :) |
| 10:09.59 | nevcairiel | Fobar? |
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| 10:10.25 | Gibbonz|Work | a mod for ordering pizza? nice :p |
| 10:10.28 | starlon | And it lives on in the commit msg. |
| 10:10.29 | Zpredator[AUS] | hehe |
| 10:10.41 | Zpredator[AUS] | sorry while's were down |
| 10:11.14 | Zpredator[AUS] | i was just in a raid for gruul and noticed how annoying it is hearing the "you cannot cast that yet" |
| 10:11.22 | Zpredator[AUS] | anyone know the addon im looking for? |
| 10:11.34 | nevcairiel | turn of error speech in the sound options |
| 10:11.38 | nevcairiel | *off |
| 10:11.40 | Zpredator[AUS] | thanks |
| 10:14.20 | Zpredator[AUS] | im also looking for a mail notifcation addon |
| 10:14.25 | Zpredator[AUS] | im using mailfu atm |
| 10:15.22 | cncfanatics | ain't the default notification enough ? |
| 10:16.20 | Zpredator[AUS] | i never thought of that. |
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| 10:42.43 | Gnarfoz | *waahh* bugsack stopped working @ latest wotlk build :< |
| 10:44.32 | Ellipsis | QQQQQQQ |
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| 10:46.26 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: yes, moar |
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| 10:52.04 | Zpredator[AUS] | mm spartan ui is sexy |
| 10:52.20 | Groktar | legally changes Zpredator[AUS]'s name to Francis |
| 10:52.26 | Groktar | spartanui? |
| 10:52.40 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh :) |
| 10:52.51 | Groktar | what all does it include |
| 10:52.57 | Zpredator[AUS] | http://www.spartanui.com/ |
| 10:53.08 | Zpredator[AUS] | who knows, it works really well though |
| 10:53.51 | Lyn_ | what i dont like about this ui is, target frame background is always there |
| 10:54.01 | Lyn_ | even if you dont targeted someone |
| 10:54.02 | selckin | the number 1 feature is "Now a stand-alone mod (all original code)" |
| 10:54.05 | selckin | yeah, i need that! |
| 10:54.09 | Lyn_ | except this, its seksi |
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| 10:55.07 | Zpredator[AUS] | can always slecet stick target? |
| 10:55.11 | cnc|food | omg |
| 10:55.13 | cnc|food | hilarious |
| 10:55.17 | cnc|food | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/04/14/forum-post-of-the-day-player-tries-to-scam-gm-for-epic-flight-t/ |
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| 10:55.19 | cnc|food | HILARIOUS |
| 10:55.28 | Lyn_ | Zpredator[AUS], ? |
| 10:55.42 | Grok | bites cncfanatics |
| 10:56.00 | Zpredator[AUS] | sticky target |
| 10:56.25 | Lyn_ | doesnt have to do with the thing i mean |
| 10:56.29 | Grok | how's that grid addon going cncfanatics? |
| 10:56.40 | Groktar | huh |
| 10:56.40 | Groktar | that's odd |
| 10:57.07 | Lyn_ | i mean the background art of the target frame.. is always there... wait, i am searching a screenshot |
| 10:57.18 | Zpredator[AUS] | yeh i know |
| 10:57.35 | Zpredator[AUS] | if you have it sticky target... |
| 10:57.37 | Zpredator[AUS] | ahh nvm |
| 10:57.37 | Lyn_ | http://www.spartanui.com/screenshots/SpartanUI2_teaserbig.jpg |
| 10:57.39 | Lyn_ | this |
| 10:57.51 | Lyn_ | thats fugly... for pets and tot/focus it isnt |
| 10:57.56 | Grok | how is wau using 50% cpu just sitting there? |
| 10:58.06 | Lyn_ | but for target... i am asking "why?" ... |
| 10:58.27 | Zpredator[AUS] | im going to continue using caith ui |
| 10:58.34 | Zpredator[AUS] | but spartan ui is interesting. |
| 10:58.36 | Zpredator[AUS] | thats all |
| 10:58.43 | Grok | i don't understand custom uis |
| 10:58.46 | Lyn_ | i like spartan ui, except this thing |
| 10:58.53 | Grok | all the extra artwork |
| 10:59.01 | Zpredator[AUS] | doesnt bother me to much |
| 10:59.05 | Neya | I don't understand the need for all those actionbars in that ui, the little information there is seems somehow cluttered. |
| 10:59.06 | Zpredator[AUS] | the animation cought my eye |
| 10:59.09 | Zpredator[AUS] | ooo flashy :) |
| 10:59.16 | Lyn_ | xD |
| 10:59.18 | Zpredator[AUS] | yes it is |
| 10:59.35 | Zpredator[AUS] | most of my action bars are usually spell binded |
| 10:59.51 | Neya | but then, my entire ui is more or less a msbt and 3 small unitframes... |
| 11:00.18 | Trell- | ahahaha |
| 11:00.23 | Grok | i wish more addons would use the blizzard interface options |
| 11:00.27 | Trell- | cncfanatics - thats so awesome |
| 11:00.30 | Grok | and not the stupid minimap buttons |
| 11:00.30 | Trell- | owned totally. |
| 11:00.32 | Grok | h8 buttons |
| 11:00.39 | Trell- | best post ever, in the world of forum posts |
| 11:00.44 | Lyn_ | Grok, i am too dumb to make my lynstats option inside this window... lol |
| 11:00.53 | Grok | lol |
| 11:01.11 | Grok | i turn them all off and type |
| 11:01.18 | Grok | except for bigwigs |
| 11:01.31 | Grok | it's a pain to configure that without the minimap buttons |
| 11:01.36 | Zpredator[AUS] | http://madnessnetwork.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=78&d=1217157839 |
| 11:01.38 | Zpredator[AUS] | thats my ui atm |
| 11:01.47 | Zpredator[AUS] | sorry about the graphics card |
| 11:01.56 | Zpredator[AUS] | the computer i was on wasnt mine |
| 11:02.11 | Grok | won't let me view it without registering |
| 11:02.11 | Lyn_ | Zpredator[AUS], cant opening... need to register |
| 11:02.12 | sacarasc_ | pfft signing up to see the pic is fail |
| 11:02.25 | Zpredator[AUS] | :O |
| 11:02.25 | cncfanatics | Trell-: did you read the blue ? |
| 11:02.33 | cncfanatics | its so fucking win i'd want to sig the whole thing |
| 11:02.59 | Zpredator[AUS] | uploading again |
| 11:03.27 | Zpredator[AUS] | as far as i can see |
| 11:03.31 | Zpredator[AUS] | you can remove action bars |
| 11:03.57 | Zpredator[AUS] | without effecting the layout |
| 11:04.09 | Zpredator[AUS] | im also suprised with the memory usage hehe |
| 11:04.24 | Grok | i need a link to this forum post |
| 11:04.25 | Grok | :( |
| 11:05.49 | Trell- | yes cncfanatics |
| 11:05.49 | Trell- | just posted it on my guild forums |
| 11:05.49 | Trell- | everyone should read that post :P |
| 11:06.02 | Neya | haha, love cases like that. |
| 11:06.17 | Zpredator[AUS] | http://i34.tinypic.com/10dtctk.jpg |
| 11:06.18 | Zpredator[AUS] | my ui |
| 11:06.22 | Zpredator[AUS] | from caith ui |
| 11:06.27 | Trell- | congratulations on your Primal Waters selling. :0 |
| 11:06.30 | Trell- | lulz |
| 11:06.45 | Zpredator[AUS] | i think my minimap is a little too big |
| 11:06.54 | Grok | whfor such huge unitframes? |
| 11:06.58 | Trell- | this is the scary one though "or because you had to get a new computer (including a ยfairly good graphics cardย and double the ram of your old computer) as you told your guildmates" - so they log everything :( |
| 11:07.11 | Lyn_ | Zpredator[AUS], except the chat font.. nice :P |
| 11:07.29 | Neya | Trell-, it would be expected that they log everything. |
| 11:07.31 | Zpredator[AUS] | hehe thanks |
| 11:07.50 | Grok | my ui is 3 rows of buttons, grid, and xperl unitframes scaled down a bunch |
| 11:08.17 | Synthetic | had to scale everyhing down |
| 11:08.23 | Synthetic | < doesnt ahve widescreen |
| 11:08.56 | cncfanatics | Trell-: ofc they do |
| 11:09.02 | cncfanatics | its not like they commonly look those up though |
| 11:09.15 | Grok | xperl has the only unitframes i've found that does buffs/debuffs, target target, focus, focus target just the way i want |
| 11:09.21 | Grok | pitbull was close |
| 11:09.37 | Grok | but it doesn't flip buffs and debuffs on enemy units |
| 11:10.03 | Grok | i know some people swear by ag_unitframes |
| 11:10.06 | Grok | haven't tried them tho |
| 11:10.10 | Grok | pokes ag` |
| 11:10.27 | ag` | hi |
| 11:11.17 | Synthetic | hello |
| 11:11.32 | Grok | just saying i've never tried your unitframes |
| 11:11.37 | Trell- | http://i38.tinypic.com/rareox.jpg is my UI |
| 11:11.41 | Trell- | based on Hal's <3 |
| 11:11.48 | cncfanatics | ag`: while ur here, I also wanted to ask you something |
| 11:11.57 | Trell- | layout and textures are from hal's still, most other addons are added by me |
| 11:12.10 | ag` | cncfanatics: ok:) |
| 11:12.11 | Trell- | and yes, theres too much data on it :P |
| 11:12.18 | Grok | are those natur enemy castbar dot timers? |
| 11:12.20 | cncfanatics | ag`: could you possibly addapt http://files.wowace.com/PitBull_QuickHealth/PitBull_QuickHealth.zip to work with aguf ? :p its only a few mins of work as you know the functions |
| 11:12.40 | cncfanatics | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull_QuickHealth/PitBull_QuickHealth.lua even |
| 11:12.41 | Trell- | ClassTimer candybars above the target frame, NECB on the left side - I've since upgraded to NCB beta though |
| 11:12.44 | Kazie | What does this mean? it pops up in the deffault chat settings, no matter what i do it pops on on everything in there.. :s "Interface\FrameXML\ChatConfigFrame.lua:975: attempt to index global 'CHATCONFIG_SELECTED_FILTER_SETTINGS' (a nil value)" |
| 11:12.46 | ag` | cncfanatics: yes I want to :) I might get time for it today |
| 11:12.59 | cncfanatics | :D |
| 11:13.21 | cncfanatics | or if you want you could make it builtin, like xperl did (its a bit bugged atm in xperl though) |
| 11:13.42 | Synthetic | lyn aithor of lyn ui? |
| 11:13.46 | Synthetic | author* |
| 11:13.57 | Lyn_ | Synthetic, yes |
| 11:14.30 | Synthetic | Using default quest tracker? |
| 11:14.42 | Lyn_ | when i am not on a <70 toon, yes |
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| 11:19.19 | Synthetic | have a good evening everyone, good night. |
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| 11:31.13 | sb | oh, mob hitpoints in wotlk - finally :p |
| 11:32.47 | Pneumatus | yeh, they only show up on mouseover atm i think |
| 11:33.07 | sb | in blizz interface, yes |
| 11:33.13 | Pneumatus | i guess thats one way to completely kill MobHealth :) |
| 11:33.34 | sb | but it means that hitpoints are available somehow (API) |
| 11:33.37 | Pneumatus | Ace2 is acting weird in the beta now tho :< |
| 11:33.44 | Pneumatus | idd |
| 11:35.04 | Kazie | Anyone who can tell me what this is? Interface\FrameXML\ChatConfigFrame.lua:975: attempt to index global 'CHATCONFIG_SELECTED_FILTER_SETTINGS' (a nil value) |
| 11:35.49 | cncfanatics | ~failure |
| 11:35.49 | purl | failure is probably always an option |
| 11:36.01 | Pneumatus | AceConsole:Print() is now printing the addon name as the mixin list, not the actual addon name |
| 11:36.31 | Pneumatus | [12:31:03]<Sub-AceAddonAceHook-2.1, AceDB-2.0, AceConsole-2.0) instance>: Usage: /classloot {check | gcheck | rcheck | profile | standby | about} |
| 11:39.13 | cncfanatics | purl, failure is also http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784521764&pageNo=1&sid=1#15 |
| 11:39.14 | purl | cncfanatics: okay |
| 11:39.21 | cncfanatics | ~failure |
| 11:39.22 | purl | well, failure is always an option, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784521764&pageNo=1&sid=1#15 |
| 11:40.29 | selckin | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#1418 |
| 11:40.31 | selckin | lol |
| 11:41.21 | Pneumatus | haha |
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| 11:44.10 | Grok | that has to be the best blue post i've ever seen |
| 11:44.34 | profalber1 | link again pls |
| 11:44.43 | Grok | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784521764&pageNo=1&sid=1#15 |
| 11:44.54 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.54 | purl | [failure] always an option, or http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784521764&pageNo=1&sid=1#15 |
| 11:44.59 | ccKep | woot at UnitHealth changes? Oo |
| 11:45.04 | cncfanatics | ccKep: where ? |
| 11:45.11 | cncfanatics | linky |
| 11:45.14 | ccKep | 12:45 CEST - You can now see the health points of any monster without any external mod !!! Screenshot |
| 11:45.16 | ccKep | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/mobhealthpoints.jpg |
| 11:45.21 | ccKep | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
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| 11:46.14 | Lukian | yay |
| 11:46.21 | cncfanatics | ah, that yea |
| 11:46.27 | cncfanatics | quickhealth for enemy mobs, yay :p |
| 11:46.50 | charon | way to cause massive cpu load in unit frames :p |
| 11:46.58 | cncfanatics | not rly |
| 11:47.33 | cncfanatics | its not rly useful for hostile units though |
| 11:48.15 | cladhaire | someone should write the quickhealth plugin for praid so i dont have to |
| 11:48.26 | charon | well the usual estimate is 30 cleu events/s on average over an entire raiding night |
| 11:48.55 | Lukian | gold sink much? http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/ringskirintor.jpg |
| 11:48.58 | charon | even if you discount healing etc, it'll still be more updates than with unit_health |
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| 11:49.24 | cncfanatics | cladhaire: if its similar to other unitframes it takes about 1 minute |
| 11:49.30 | selckin | lol Lukian omg |
| 11:49.36 | selckin | gold better be really easy to come by |
| 11:49.36 | ccKep | Lukian: 2nd hearthstone ftw :D |
| 11:49.39 | cladhaire | similar in what way? |
| 11:49.49 | cncfanatics | having a function to loop through all unitframes |
| 11:49.49 | selckin | cladhaire: 3rd! |
| 11:49.57 | selckin | err ccKep |
| 11:50.02 | cncfanatics | or to loop through all unit frames based on their guid |
| 11:50.05 | p3lim | ~seen jjsheets |
| 11:50.07 | purl | jjsheets <n=jjsheets@c-98-214-77-115.hsd1.il.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 39d 12h 45m 9s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 11:50.07 | cncfanatics | check the grid code, its quite easy |
| 11:50.15 | p3lim | oh 39 days >_< |
| 11:50.41 | Lyn_ | ^^ |
| 11:52.50 | ccKep | <selckin> err ccKep << hum? |
| 11:54.23 | p3lim | anyone here with fair knowledge in using LibButtonFacade? |
| 11:55.50 | Lukian | Rogue energy mechanics have now been changed, they now return energy every 1/10th of a second instead of 20 every 2, this change makes energy generation more fluid. |
| 11:55.53 | Lukian | Druids? |
| 11:57.41 | Vulcanus | so effective energy gain is the same then |
| 11:59.03 | jaxdahl | no more need for MobHealth3 |
| 11:59.17 | jaxdahl | you can now see the HP of any mob |
| 11:59.58 | Vulcanus | mm ye but I use a mob loot tracker too |
| 12:00.03 | jaxdahl | yea |
| 12:00.41 | Vulcanus | havent found a replacement for that yet |
| 12:01.33 | Vulcanus | Im almost tempted to write one myself, one that only loads data for the continent we're in :p no point in having azeroth data if we're not IN azeroth now is it |
| 12:03.06 | Vangual | has it been confirmed that it's not just a bug tho? |
| 12:03.14 | CIA-45 | 03tdw * r79386 10CleanShot/CleanShot.toc: CleanShot: - Update TOC with wiki and forum thread. |
| 12:03.16 | Vangual | getting hp from mobs |
| 12:03.42 | Pneumatus | you could even make the data zone-specific |
| 12:04.25 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79387 10CastYeller/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 12:04.25 | CIA-45 | CastYeller: |
| 12:04.25 | CIA-45 | - got rid of Babble-Spell-2.2, |
| 12:04.25 | CIA-45 | - added leatherworking drums (untested), |
| 12:04.25 | CIA-45 | - one can create custom announce for any spell or item, using plain name or link. |
| 12:04.47 | Vulcanus | ye I could, but that would involve tons of "plugin"-esque LoD stuff. Because if Im not mistaken, having everything in one SV file would be the same as not having any continent distinction at all |
| 12:05.25 | Vulcanus | so basically Id need to have like LootTracker_HellfirePeninsula |
| 12:05.26 | Vulcanus | etc |
| 12:05.32 | Vulcanus | which would be hassle to say the least |
| 12:06.53 | jaxdahl | Vulcanus, not sure why it would be a bug when it's a new option |
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| 12:07.48 | Vulcanus | bounces that over to the correct guy, Vangual |
| 12:08.09 | jaxdahl | didn't notice it was someone else that asked that |
| 12:08.32 | Vulcanus | np ^^ |
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| 12:19.30 | CIA-45 | 03Swix * r79388 10LibBabble-Faction-3.0/LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Faction-3.0: small ruRU fix |
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| 12:22.58 | Zyndrome | "- Monster frame is now displaying the hitpoints without using any addons." |
| 12:23.32 | cncfanatics | Zyndrome: basiclly, UnitHealth now returns absolute values |
| 12:23.35 | cncfanatics | instead or relative ones |
| 12:23.42 | cncfanatics | which is fucking cool |
| 12:23.48 | ckknight | really? |
| 12:23.52 | ckknight | no more MobHealth? |
| 12:24.03 | Vangual | is that quote from unofficial or official notes? |
| 12:24.41 | Zyndrome | http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2121 |
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| 12:25.31 | Vangual | we know it does return absolute values. but unless officially written down by a blue or patchnotes you really have to assume it's a bug |
| 12:26.00 | cncfanatics | I doubt its a bug |
| 12:26.08 | cncfanatics | the UnitHealth func hasn't changed in decades |
| 12:26.55 | Vangual | it would be far from the first time that completely untouched content is suffering from new patches with blizzard |
| 12:28.03 | Bibi | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/mobhealthpoints2.jpg |
| 12:28.05 | Bibi | not a bug. |
| 12:28.16 | cncfanatics | well, tbh, mobhealth has been around for so long |
| 12:28.21 | cncfanatics | it was about time they implemented it |
| 12:28.57 | jaxdahl | wonder if they will change it anyway so boss HP is always hidden |
| 12:30.04 | ckknight | Bibi: no, it still could be a bug and fix it later |
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| 12:30.12 | ckknight | hope they don't, though |
| 12:30.23 | ckknight | I'll be glad to get rid of MobHealth stuff |
| 12:30.31 | ckknight | even though I wrote LibMobHealth-4.0 |
| 12:30.45 | Vangual | Bibi: showing that the effects of a bug are consistent doesn't proof it's not a bug |
| 12:30.52 | Bibi | ok |
| 12:30.59 | Bibi | why did I try to argue on a channel full of developpers ? |
| 12:31.06 | Bibi | I didn't even sleep last night |
| 12:31.25 | winkiller | lol |
| 12:31.48 | ccKep | noone in here did :> |
| 12:31.55 | Vangual | hehe |
| 12:32.37 | ccKep | caffeine and a bunch of food and we're up to top again! |
| 12:34.26 | kagaro | well the Glyph previews look interesting so far |
| 12:34.33 | Zyndrome | New Spell: Divine Plea (5 Minutes cooldown, Channeled) - While channeling this spell, you gain 50% of your total mana over 6 seconds. |
| 12:34.40 | Zyndrome | evocation for paladins, hoooo |
| 12:35.04 | selckin | no heals for 6 seconds |
| 12:35.08 | selckin | thats gonna work |
| 12:35.25 | ramoz | can you make it crit? :O |
| 12:35.57 | Zyndrome | Forbearance: Now lasts 3 minutes. |
| 12:36.12 | Zyndrome | suck ...... my ....... platipus |
| 12:36.50 | kagaro | Dispersion 3 minute cooldown now |
| 12:37.58 | Tigerdyr | What? Forbearance lasts 3 mins?? |
| 12:38.12 | Tigerdyr | is teh s00q |
| 12:39.23 | ckknight | what? |
| 12:39.29 | ckknight | wait, dammit |
| 12:39.34 | ckknight | it was only 1 before |
| 12:39.41 | ckknight | I thought it was 5 for some reason |
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| 12:42.10 | Chompers | pummel off gcd |
| 12:42.17 | Chompers | it's only took a few years |
| 12:42.41 | Chompers | this is awesome too http://files.filefront.com/regenmechavi/;11267790;/fileinfo.html |
| 12:44.59 | Cheads | shield bash off gcd too |
| 12:45.40 | Cheads | not earth shock though |
| 12:46.00 | cncfanatics | forbearance 3 mins ? |
| 12:46.01 | cncfanatics | thats rofl |
| 12:46.03 | Chompers | it's a step in the right direction |
| 12:46.14 | cncfanatics | Cheads: earth shock does major dmg too |
| 12:46.19 | Kaaosa- | The new regen seems.. weeeeeird |
| 12:46.30 | Cheads | yeah, shield bash does damage too? |
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| 12:47.35 | cncfanatics | true |
| 12:47.45 | ccKep | hope that regen mechanic changes don't fire an event for every party/raidmember every 0.1 secs... |
| 12:47.55 | kagaro | so energy/mana regen now happening every sec |
| 12:47.57 | Kaaosa- | lol |
| 12:48.11 | cncfanatics | ccKep: both mana & health events are throttled every 0.3sec |
| 12:48.26 | ccKep | doesn't look like that in the vid atm xD |
| 12:48.31 | Kaaosa- | Am I the only one who thinks the DK flying mount looks awful? |
| 12:48.37 | cncfanatics | you don't notice a third of a second in a video |
| 12:48.46 | kagaro | wonder how long till wdn is updated with new patch data |
| 12:49.15 | ccKep | three times a sec? I'd sure as hell would notice that |
| 12:49.26 | ccKep | as long as the video is realtime, ofc |
| 12:50.09 | ccKep | just if you take a look at the mana bar and count one second its more than 3 updates |
| 12:50.46 | ccKep | but maybe they just wiped unit_power events (or how they're called) and just notify the client without firing any events |
| 12:51.00 | ccKep | so UnitMana and such just always return the correct amounts without events firing |
| 12:51.41 | ccKep | so it could just call UnitMana every onupdate and make it look like that *shrug* |
| 12:51.53 | cncfanatics | ccKep: prolly not |
| 12:52.01 | cncfanatics | I really doubt that |
| 12:52.09 | cncfanatics | prolly just every 0.3 secs |
| 12:52.19 | cncfanatics | does energy also work that way now btw |
| 12:52.23 | cncfanatics | if so thats a buff to rogues :p |
| 12:52.48 | ccKep | look at the vid |
| 12:52.50 | ccKep | left side -> rogue |
| 12:52.51 | Gnarfoz | mana and rogues both work that way now |
| 12:52.53 | ccKep | รคh |
| 12:52.54 | ccKep | right |
| 12:52.55 | Gnarfoz | http://www.vimeo.com/1428965 http://vimeo.com/1427758 |
| 12:53.56 | cncfanatics | buff to rogues then |
| 12:54.00 | cncfanatics | can use their energy earlyer :) |
| 12:54.09 | cncfanatics | also a slight nerf, that can't spare up and attack right before atick now |
| 12:54.17 | Kaaosa- | lol paladins get shield wall |
| 12:54.22 | Kaaosa- | grats |
| 12:54.51 | cncfanatics | :o, about time |
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| 12:55.10 | cncfanatics | cooldown ? triggers forbearance ? Kaaosa- |
| 12:55.16 | Kaaosa- | Divine Protection is only 50% damage reduction now, so shouldn't wipe aggro |
| 12:55.33 | Kaaosa- | So yeah, Forbearance |
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| 12:56.52 | Gnarfoz | it never wiped aggro |
| 12:57.00 | Kaaosa- | You know what I mean though |
| 12:57.07 | Gnarfoz | also, DP is the lower level DS |
| 12:57.12 | Kaaosa- | It shouldn't cause mobs to switch targets |
| 12:57.12 | Gnarfoz | so, no shield wall. |
| 12:57.15 | Kaaosa- | Yes, I know |
| 12:57.20 | Kaaosa- | But the effect is more or less the same |
| 12:57.33 | Gnarfoz | it's inferior, yet superior, you mean? :p |
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| 12:57.41 | Kaaosa- | For tanking, yeah |
| 12:57.44 | Gnarfoz | it also only lasts like 6 seconds ;) |
| 12:57.55 | Kaaosa- | 12 >_> |
| 12:58.07 | Gnarfoz | that's DS |
| 12:58.16 | selckin | 50 is too little to reactively use and stay alive |
| 12:58.25 | Kaaosa- | Pretty sure the reworked DP is 12 |
| 12:58.33 | Kaaosa- | That's what mmo-champion says anywya |
| 12:58.35 | Kaaosa- | anyway |
| 12:58.36 | Kaaosa- | * |
| 12:58.57 | ccKep | cncfanatics: OnUpdate |
| 12:58.58 | ccKep | it seems |
| 12:59.00 | Gnarfoz | hm right |
| 12:59.06 | cncfanatics | thats bad |
| 12:59.09 | ccKep | if ( GetCVarBool("predictedPower") and frequentUpdates ) then statusbar:SetScript("OnUpdate", UnitFrameManaBar_OnUpdate); |
| 12:59.16 | Kaaosa- | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=498 |
| 12:59.19 | ccKep | and that calls local currValue = UnitMana(self.unit); |
| 12:59.27 | ccKep | UnitFrame.lua of beta build |
| 12:59.29 | cncfanatics | I hope they didn't remove the events tbh |
| 12:59.34 | ccKep | no |
| 12:59.37 | ccKep | doesnt seem so |
| 12:59.40 | ccKep | as they still register that |
| 12:59.44 | ccKep | its a cvar that you can turn off |
| 12:59.49 | ccKep | so it still has to work with events |
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| 13:03.04 | ccKep | and its only for unitid == "player" so far |
| 13:03.20 | ccKep | atleast mana |
| 13:03.32 | ccKep | health seems unaffected of unitid |
| 13:04.08 | ccKep | unithealth seems updated for every unit instantly without waiting for the event |
| 13:04.21 | ccKep | as long as cvar predictedHealth is true |
| 13:05.28 | ccKep | wonder if its only a "display" thingie then |
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| 13:05.34 | kagaro | the super fast update to mana/energy in UnitFrame.lua |
| 13:05.47 | Kuosi | Lyn_: there? |
| 13:05.49 | kagaro | UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER is a new one isnt it ? |
| 13:05.55 | kagaro | event |
| 13:05.58 | ccKep | so if I predictedPower is off, can't rogues use their attacks then? |
| 13:06.19 | kagaro | ccKep where do you see predicted power? |
| 13:06.20 | ccKep | UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER isnt new |
| 13:06.25 | ccKep | its for shapeshifting |
| 13:06.30 | ccKep | lemme check line count |
| 13:06.30 | ccKep | sec. |
| 13:06.40 | ccKep | line 238 |
| 13:06.46 | ccKep | thats the important part |
| 13:06.50 | ccKep | power bar initialization |
| 13:06.56 | ccKep | if the cvar is off, it registers the events and such |
| 13:07.03 | ccKep | if its on it sets OnUpdate handler |
| 13:07.10 | ccKep | which in turn calls UnitMana() and such every OnUpdate |
| 13:07.27 | Kaaosa- | :o RIP Paranoia |
| 13:07.33 | kagaro | you looking at wdn or the new patch ? |
| 13:07.41 | ccKep | UNIT_DISPLAYPOWER is just fired for shapeshifting |
| 13:07.44 | ccKep | when your powertype changes |
| 13:07.48 | ccKep | mana -> rage and such |
| 13:07.53 | ccKep | new patch |
| 13:07.56 | ccKep | wdn doesn't have it yet |
| 13:07.59 | ccKep | its only in the new build |
| 13:08.00 | Cheads | Kaaosa- seems rather strange that paranoia was removed |
| 13:08.04 | ccKep | shall I pastey the part? |
| 13:08.14 | kagaro | ccKep: kk i jsut wanted to be on the same page I already extracted it |
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| 13:08.37 | Kaaosa- | Cheads, even stranger that Voidwalkers got a gimped version of it |
| 13:08.56 | Cheads | yeah.. more or less useless |
| 13:08.57 | Lyn_ | Kuosi, yes |
| 13:09.01 | ccKep | need beta key so I can check with the predictedPower thingie |
| 13:09.49 | kagaro | ccKep unless someone unregistered TextStatuBar which registers cvar udpate it will happen |
| 13:10.03 | ccKep | hm? |
| 13:10.09 | ccKep | what will happen? |
| 13:10.21 | kagaro | the CVAR_UPDATE event will fire down |
| 13:11.11 | ccKep | what are we talking about? |
| 13:11.25 | ccKep | guess I must've missed something |
| 13:11.30 | kagaro | maybe a misread on my part, about disabling the super fast updates |
| 13:11.35 | Kuosi | Lyn_: still got that bf skin uploaded somewhere? some1 asking for it in the ui shot topic |
| 13:11.37 | ccKep | nono |
| 13:11.45 | ccKep | what I'm thinking about is: |
| 13:11.49 | ccKep | lets say you're a rogue |
| 13:11.57 | ccKep | and you had some dodges / parries on your specials |
| 13:11.59 | Lyn_ | Kuosi, which one? |
| 13:12.02 | kagaro | playerframe OnEvent, does a call to UnitFrame on event as well |
| 13:12.08 | ccKep | that causes your energy to become "odd" |
| 13:12.20 | Kuosi | hum how to describe |
| 13:12.25 | ccKep | so lets assume after an energy tick you are at 39 energy |
| 13:12.25 | Kuosi | the one with scaling issues :D |
| 13:12.30 | ccKep | now |
| 13:12.34 | ccKep | with predictedPower on |
| 13:12.34 | Kuosi | the almost roth look a like |
| 13:12.36 | Kuosi | just more thin |
| 13:12.40 | ccKep | the client renders 40 in the next second |
| 13:12.45 | ccKep | so you WOULD be able to sinister strike |
| 13:12.48 | kagaro | im trying to find this predicatePower your talking about |
| 13:12.59 | ccKep | what build are you using? |
| 13:13.02 | ccKep | the one from today? |
| 13:13.08 | kagaro | yeah |
| 13:13.15 | ccKep | UnitFrames.lua? |
| 13:13.15 | kagaro | I downlaoded it an extracted it already |
| 13:13.24 | ccKep | line 238 |
| 13:13.26 | ccKep | paste that line |
| 13:13.29 | ccKep | mine is: |
| 13:13.31 | ccKep | if ( GetCVarBool("predictedPower") and frequentUpdates ) then |
| 13:13.34 | kagaro | statusbar:SetScript("OnEvent", UnitFrameManaBar_OnEvent); |
| 13:13.41 | ccKep | guess you've got the wrong then? |
| 13:13.44 | kagaro | crap i extracted the wrong one then |
| 13:13.44 | ccKep | were did you download it |
| 13:13.51 | kagaro | from the blizz downloader |
| 13:14.01 | ccKep | I extracted it from the patch.mpq |
| 13:14.19 | kagaro | ahh hold on i extracted the wrong one |
| 13:14.39 | kagaro | ok i see it now |
| 13:15.25 | ccKep | so back to my scenario |
| 13:15.29 | ccKep | lets say you have 39 energy |
| 13:15.36 | sb | http://files.filefront.com/regenmechavi/;11267790;/fileinfo.html <-- need new computer :p |
| 13:15.50 | ccKep | predictedPower on -> client renders 40 energy in the next second -> you WOULD/(SHOULD?) be able to sinister strike |
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| 13:16.14 | kagaro | I would assume so |
| 13:16.19 | ccKep | predictedPower off -> client renders 49 energy some secs later (dunno how often energy ticks.. I'm not a rogue) -> sinister strike only available later? |
| 13:16.34 | ccKep | 20 / 2secs |
| 13:16.41 | ccKep | so client would render 59 2secs later |
| 13:16.59 | Lyn_ | Kuosi, the one with small border, or the one i am currently using? |
| 13:17.17 | Kuosi | the small borders |
| 13:17.26 | Kuosi | dont know what you using now |
| 13:17.28 | Lyn_ | somewhere in the buttonfacade skin thread |
| 13:17.47 | Kuosi | okay thanks |
| 13:17.54 | sb | ah ccKep - so if the client _knows_ that you have 40 energy you can SS, but if you are at 39 energy and 59 would be next in 2s you have to wait because client still thinks you are at 39 |
| 13:17.56 | sb | right? :p |
| 13:18.11 | ccKep | thats what I'm thinking about |
| 13:18.14 | ccKep | with that feature |
| 13:18.17 | sb | hmhm |
| 13:18.23 | ccKep | and I'd like to know how the client handles that |
| 13:18.58 | ccKep | with the feature turned off (current live behaviour) you'd never be able to get a "clean" energy value |
| 13:19.10 | ccKep | 39 -> 49 -> 19 -> 39 -> 59 -> 19 and so on |
| 13:19.17 | sb | yup |
| 13:19.24 | sb | well yes you can get clean values |
| 13:19.29 | ccKep | -49 + 59 |
| 13:19.32 | sb | 59 -> 79 -> 99 -> 100 |
| 13:19.40 | ccKep | yay, thats high dps shitz =) |
| 13:19.45 | sb | yup :P |
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| 13:19.56 | ccKep | "what did you do?" "I waited for my energy, I dont like 99ers!" |
| 13:20.35 | jaxdahl | hmm |
| 13:20.38 | ccKep | thats some massive UnitMana() calls there |
| 13:20.40 | jaxdahl | they changed energy |
| 13:20.41 | ccKep | every onupdate :o |
| 13:20.52 | jaxdahl | updates every 1/10th of a second? |
| 13:20.58 | sb | *orders new CPU* :p |
| 13:20.58 | jaxdahl | instead of 20e every 2 sec |
| 13:21.04 | ccKep | thats what we're talking about @ jaxdahl |
| 13:21.05 | sb | imagine with raidframes on |
| 13:21.09 | jaxdahl | hmm |
| 13:21.12 | ccKep | seems to onle be a display-thingie |
| 13:21.19 | ccKep | because you can turn it off |
| 13:21.21 | ccKep | are you in the beta? |
| 13:21.24 | cncfanatics | sb: thats nearly what happens with quickhealth, no noticable lag :p |
| 13:21.27 | jaxdahl | yea i am |
| 13:21.29 | jaxdahl | i have a rogue |
| 13:21.33 | jaxdahl | haven't tried it yet |
| 13:21.46 | ccKep | can you try to get some sinisters dodged? |
| 13:21.51 | kagaro | token ui stuff is in the patch |
| 13:21.52 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: quickhealth is something entirely different >_> this is a mechanics change |
| 13:22.00 | ccKep | and if you are at 40 energy with that fenzy-update try to sinister immediatly? |
| 13:22.09 | ccKep | *fancy |
| 13:22.22 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: just talking about the cpu usage here |
| 13:22.23 | ccKep | would like if it jumps to 0 or if it still says "not enough energy" |
| 13:22.28 | ccKep | *to know |
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| 13:23.02 | sb | ccKep: i will test when i get my key :p |
| 13:23.27 | ccKep | I need two keys, for both accounts :( |
| 13:23.30 | Gnarfoz | ccKep: why would it jump not jump to 0? SS costs 40e for any reasonable spec ;p |
| 13:23.33 | kagaro | im still waiting on my key |
| 13:23.36 | jaxdahl | can't do it right away |
| 13:23.41 | jaxdahl | like 45-47 energy |
| 13:23.43 | ccKep | Gnarfoz: yeah but: |
| 13:23.43 | sb | kagaro: i think we all do :p |
| 13:23.55 | ccKep | you can turn the cvar for that speed-display off @ Gnarfoz |
| 13:23.59 | jaxdahl | lemme do the math.. |
| 13:24.07 | ccKep | so that energy display still only updates on UNIT_ENERGY |
| 13:24.19 | cncfanatics | how often is UNIT_ENERGY triggered now though ? :) |
| 13:24.21 | ccKep | wonder if you had to wait for an energy tick if the feature is turned off |
| 13:24.25 | cncfanatics | cld be once a sec or so |
| 13:24.25 | jaxdahl | let me think though |
| 13:24.26 | CIA-45 | 03zeksie * r79389 10XPerl/ (5 files): XPerl: Fixes to LibQuickHealth-1.0 support to reflect changes in library, and now uses GUID maps instead of loops for updates. |
| 13:24.26 | CIA-45 | 03zeksie * r79390 10XPerl_Party/XPerl_Party.lua: XPerl_Party: Fixes to LibQuickHealth-1.0 support to reflect changes in library, and now uses GUID maps instead of loops for updates. |
| 13:24.36 | CIA-45 | 03zeksie * r79391 10XPerl_RaidFrames/XPerl_Raid.lua: XPerl_RaidFrames: Fixes to LibQuickHealth-1.0 support to reflect changes in library, and now uses GUID maps instead of loops for updates. |
| 13:24.46 | cncfanatics | Diao: ping |
| 13:24.48 | Gnarfoz | ccKep: if you turn it off, how would the client know that you're at 40e already? =] |
| 13:24.58 | ccKep | thaaats my question |
| 13:25.21 | ccKep | UnitMana should return the correct value |
| 13:25.25 | ccKep | even if its turned off |
| 13:25.41 | ccKep | but the display only gets updated every UNIT_ENERGY in the new beta |
| 13:25.43 | jaxdahl | it doesn't seem to remove exactly 40 when i sinister strike |
| 13:25.51 | jaxdahl | it updates to the correct value |
| 13:26.17 | CIA-45 | 03zeksie * r79392 10XPerl_Target/XPerl_Target.lua: XPerl_Target: Fixes to LibQuickHealth-1.0 support to reflect changes in library, and now uses GUID maps instead of loops for updates. |
| 13:26.23 | ccKep | jaxdahl: can you check how often unit_energy is fired? |
| 13:26.30 | jaxdahl | i'm not really an addon writer |
| 13:26.41 | jaxdahl | can you whip up something real quick? |
| 13:26.49 | kagaro | isnt the beta server down anyways right now ? |
| 13:26.51 | sb | btw - whats the difference between quickhealth and instant-health? |
| 13:26.59 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.19 | sb | instant-heal available everywhere and quick-health only if you load the proper implementation for your unitframes? |
| 13:27.38 | cncfanatics | sb: instanthealth forces itself on every addon listening for the UNIT_HEALTH event |
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| 13:27.43 | cncfanatics | and on every addon calling the UnitHealth func |
| 13:27.54 | cncfanatics | and it also taints the blizz UI rendering the targetoftarget & targetoffocus useless |
| 13:28.06 | sb | ah :) |
| 13:28.08 | jaxdahl | i get spammed with numbers while in combat, 1/10th of a second |
| 13:28.23 | ccKep | yeal, /console reloadui to stop it ;) |
| 13:28.29 | cncfanatics | sb: I loved the idea of instanthealth when i saw it |
| 13:28.33 | jaxdahl | 819725.453, etc |
| 13:28.36 | cncfanatics | but the implementation is , well, anoying |
| 13:28.48 | ccKep | the difference between those numbers would've been interesting |
| 13:29.04 | yoshimo | cncfanatics, another one for you : healbot-support ;) |
| 13:29.25 | jaxdahl | .546 .562 .593 .609 .64 .656 .671 .687 |
| 13:29.37 | ccKep | woot? |
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| 13:30.02 | Zeksie | cncfanatics: one other thing I've noticed, which is prolly unavoidable. you can get positive jumps in HP. I expect when the server posts a UNIT_HEALTH at the same time someone takes dmg, the new UnitHealth value is actually more than it should be, so you get this little positive jump in the player's hp |
| 13:30.04 | cncfanatics | yoshimo: if I want to implement support for every unitframe addon out there I'll be busy for months |
| 13:30.16 | Zeksie | (this is when receiving dmg only, no heals) |
| 13:30.35 | yoshimo | yes i know, ill suggest it to the original author as well |
| 13:30.44 | cncfanatics | Zeksie: hmmmm, if the damage was really taken before UNIT_HEALTH triggers, but is only reported by the combatlog after UNIT_HEALTH triggers |
| 13:30.47 | cncfanatics | then you'll get that |
| 13:30.54 | ccKep | so thats like every 16ms @ jaxdahl :o |
| 13:30.57 | jaxdahl | ccKep, unit_energy .. i don't see that in the script you pasted |
| 13:31.00 | cncfanatics | depending on blizz implementation, thats rather unlikely though |
| 13:31.09 | ccKep | woops |
| 13:31.12 | ccKep | me stupid lol |
| 13:31.41 | ccKep | sec xD |
| 13:31.43 | jaxdahl | doing a reloadui to reset |
| 13:31.50 | jaxdahl | gimme a new script then :) |
| 13:31.59 | Zeksie | not the point really.. there's lots of things the server does simultaniously.. the dmg taken is all clumped and then posted off into a UNIT_HEALTH packet, in the mean time you're still taking dmg while that data packet is on it's way to you, so in that 1/3rd of a second you get combat log info saying you take dmg, then you get hte new data packet for health and it puts you back up to the value you had before those combat log event |
| 13:32.22 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.27 | ccKep | if still missing |
| 13:32.33 | Zeksie | but as i said.. prolly unavoidable |
| 13:32.43 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.45 | Zeksie | without some very accurate ping numbers |
| 13:32.45 | ccKep | there you go |
| 13:32.54 | cncfanatics | Zeksie: the damage taken while the packet is on its way will only be reported after the pcket was received |
| 13:32.58 | cncfanatics | as it was also sent after that packet |
| 13:33.10 | cncfanatics | so, it should match |
| 13:33.13 | jaxdahl | didn't get any messages |
| 13:33.24 | jaxdahl | \ |
| 13:33.27 | cncfanatics | except if I'm misunderstanding you (which is quite possible, didn't get much sleep :p) |
| 13:33.34 | ccKep | you need to turn off that predictedPower cvar |
| 13:33.35 | Zeksie | can't be. really. go test it yourself. sit outside shatt with a few dogs hitting on you, every second or so the health jumps UP a percent |
| 13:33.45 | ccKep | the unitframe doesn't register to the event if thats turned on |
| 13:34.02 | jaxdahl | my energy bar currently updates every 1/10th of a second.. so i need to turn it off? |
| 13:34.09 | jaxdahl | gimme the script for that |
| 13:34.23 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.25 | ccKep | I'd think |
| 13:34.41 | cncfanatics | Zeksie: hmmm, never noticed that while testing |
| 13:34.53 | ccKep | should be old-style updating then |
| 13:35.10 | cncfanatics | i'll test it more when I get home |
| 13:35.15 | jaxdahl | still nothing, cckep |
| 13:35.22 | jaxdahl | it's old style update now though |
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| 13:36.39 | jaxdahl | i do notice weird values |
| 13:36.44 | jaxdahl | 14->32 |
| 13:36.47 | renchap | 3/act |
| 13:36.53 | jaxdahl | 5->20 |
| 13:36.54 | renchap | oops |
| 13:37.04 | kagaro | jaxdahl: that is odd should be a 20 energy jump on a tick shouldnt it |
| 13:37.12 | jaxdahl | 14->29->49 |
| 13:37.15 | jaxdahl | after i use an ability |
| 13:37.38 | ccKep | wondering why UNIT_ENERGY doesn't seem to fire then |
| 13:37.41 | jaxdahl | it ticks normally after the first update after i use an energy-using ability |
| 13:37.58 | ccKep | do a reloadui and I'll give you a second /script: |
| 13:37.59 | jaxdahl | so it would seem they DID change something |
| 13:38.01 | jaxdahl | ok |
| 13:38.08 | jaxdahl | reloaded |
| 13:38.22 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.28 | ccKep | woot, stop |
| 13:38.37 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.38 | ccKep | this one :D |
| 13:39.03 | Lanerra | You guys talking about a change in the WotLK UI stuff? |
| 13:39.08 | jaxdahl | nothing, with the latter |
| 13:39.09 | ccKep | yeah |
| 13:39.26 | Lanerra | If you don't mind my asking, what seems to have changed/what's the problem? |
| 13:39.35 | ccKep | energy ticks seem to have changed @ Lanerra |
| 13:39.39 | jaxdahl | energy ticks now apparently update 1/0th a second |
| 13:39.43 | jaxdahl | 1/10th |
| 13:39.51 | Lanerra | Hmmm... |
| 13:39.54 | jaxdahl | so you basically see it go 9->10->11->12->13->14->15->16->17->18->19 |
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| 13:40.23 | Lanerra | Well, they have been uberizing the interface supposedly for Wrath. Lots of optimizations and the like |
| 13:40.28 | ccKep | wondering why you don't get any output of the script now, guess I'm stupid Oo |
| 13:40.38 | Lanerra | That could simply be a part of it, real-time tick updates |
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| 13:41.15 | ccKep | do you have lua errors enabled in interface options jaxdahl ? |
| 13:41.15 | Gnarfoz | Lanerra: if it actually changes every 1/10th of second, then that's a huge mechanics change for rogues, not just some UI stuff |
| 13:41.37 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: for the other classes too tbh |
| 13:41.46 | Gnarfoz | yeah, they're gonna suffer. :p |
| 13:41.46 | kagaro | come to think of it, the update to the bar shouldnt affect the skill anyways, you gota figure its using UNIT_ENERGY anyways to determin if you have enough energy |
| 13:41.47 | cncfanatics | you don't need to be at least 2 sec in the 5sr to benefit from regen |
| 13:41.49 | jaxdahl | it was changed for mana too |
| 13:41.58 | Lanerra | Oh, you're talking about literal energy regen changes, I thought you meant just the rate with which the UI shows updates to the health/energy displays |
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| 13:42.30 | jaxdahl | it's funky.. |
| 13:42.31 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: 2sec in 5sr? what? the 5sr still applies |
| 13:42.45 | jaxdahl | i am at 100/100.. i do a SS, now my energy says 55/100 (with old style update) |
| 13:42.58 | Gnarfoz | jaxdahl: so? that's correct. |
| 13:42.59 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: after you left the 5sr |
| 13:43.06 | cncfanatics | you get your first tick after 2 secs |
| 13:43.14 | cncfanatics | so, effectivly, you need 7 secs of not spending mana |
| 13:43.18 | jaxdahl | ooh yeah whoops, i dind't spec my talent points |
| 13:43.20 | cncfanatics | with that new system thats no longer true |
| 13:43.21 | ccKep | didn't specc SS? :D |
| 13:43.35 | jaxdahl | was expecting 40 |
| 13:43.42 | jaxdahl | ok yeah.. |
| 13:43.48 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: you're probably a healer and I don't know what you're talking about because I've always just watched the spark module of my unitframe ;p |
| 13:43.54 | jaxdahl | it would appear that the 1/10th energy regen is what is really happening then. |
| 13:44.06 | cladhaire | its better just a bit weird to get used to :P |
| 13:44.07 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: its more like I'm a druid thats never out of 5sr anyway |
| 13:44.08 | cladhaire | as a rogue |
| 13:44.19 | Gnarfoz | yep, certainly better |
| 13:44.20 | jaxdahl | since i'm able to SS right when i hit 45/100 after i hit 0 energy |
| 13:44.23 | jaxdahl | and not at 60/100 |
| 13:44.36 | Gnarfoz | also, it makes some assassination talent pointless |
| 13:44.52 | cncfanatics | what ones ? |
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| 13:44.58 | Gnarfoz | just the one |
| 13:45.14 | Gnarfoz | not totally pointless, but it's just not attractive anymore ^^ |
| 13:45.27 | Gnarfoz | specials cost less energy when they fail to hit |
| 13:45.30 | jaxdahl | aaahhh, cckep |
| 13:45.35 | jaxdahl | how do i turn the new style updates on? |
| 13:45.43 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.45 | cncfanatics | anyone feels like testing some new stuff for me ? |
| 13:45.46 | jaxdahl | doesn't do it |
| 13:45.52 | ccKep | woot? |
| 13:46.06 | ccKep | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:46.11 | sb | jaxdahl: wotlk only :p |
| 13:46.22 | ccKep | he is in beta ;) |
| 13:46.32 | sb | mhpf :) |
| 13:46.37 | jaxdahl | cckep, nope |
| 13:46.43 | ccKep | might have to reloadui to make it work |
| 13:46.47 | cladhaire | you probably have to reload |
| 13:46.47 | jaxdahl | lemme reloadui, yeah |
| 13:46.51 | cladhaire | since otherwise the OnUpdate won't be set |
| 13:47.04 | ccKep | since UnitFrameManaBar_Initialize handles that, don't know if thats called on cvar change |
| 13:47.37 | jaxdahl | ok, had to reloadui, then run the console command again |
| 13:48.10 | jaxdahl | ok yes. this is a big mechanics change |
| 13:48.10 | Lanerra | Do you run the client with the console pull-down enabled? |
| 13:48.35 | jaxdahl | no |
| 13:48.45 | ccKep | blizz should hurry up and send those beta keys to those who applied on WoWI ^.^ |
| 13:48.56 | Lanerra | Just add the -console line to your path of the shortcut, then you can use the tilde key to pull down the console. Saves a bit of typing |
| 13:49.11 | Lanerra | They need to hurry up and send some opt-in keys, too >.< |
| 13:49.19 | ccKep | could use both |
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| 13:49.26 | ccKep | since I'd really like tot test both of my accounts on beta |
| 13:49.36 | ccKep | (one has my main, shaman, the other my alt, prot warrior) |
| 13:50.30 | Lanerra | I've always loved beta-testing games. It's cool to see how it progresses through the development cycle. I've never gotten to see a Blizzard beta, sadly, so I'm hoping I get into this one :) |
| 13:50.31 | jaxdahl | <cncfanatics> anyone feels like testing some new stuff for me ? |
| 13:50.32 | jaxdahl | like what? |
| 13:51.10 | cncfanatics | pitbull, sraidframes & grid modules for quickhealth |
| 13:51.17 | cncfanatics | just finished drycoding them but got no WoW here |
| 13:51.44 | jaxdahl | what kind of testing do you need done? |
| 13:51.51 | jaxdahl | i'm about to head to work |
| 13:51.53 | cncfanatics | just wether they work or not :p |
| 13:52.02 | cncfanatics | and some debugging if they don't |
| 13:52.09 | cncfanatics | if you lack time, no need though, I leave work in 40 mins |
| 13:52.16 | jaxdahl | okay then, ttyl |
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| 14:05.29 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 14:05.38 | Gnarfoz | OneBag stopped working on beta this build :\ |
| 14:05.48 | Gnarfoz | as did bugsack, so I think it's something Ace2 related |
| 14:05.53 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: wake up already! ;p |
| 14:06.23 | Lanerra | I think if I got into the beta, most of my time would probably be spent goofing off with addons and building UIs for the new expansion...pretty much what I do on Live |
| 14:06.47 | Lanerra | But, hey, the whole idea of a beta is to use the software like you would as if it were a live software package so *shrug* |
| 14:07.03 | Lanerra | To find and work out the kinks, that is :P |
| 14:07.24 | ccKep | I'd most certainly take a 3-4 hours look at the deathknight and THEN start looking at UI stuff |
| 14:07.54 | Lanerra | I'd probably attempt to both simultaneously lol |
| 14:08.35 | ckknight | I need a key |
| 14:08.42 | ckknight | I'd totally fix Ace2 if I had one |
| 14:08.50 | Lanerra | As do I...but I think you need it more, ckknight :) |
| 14:08.57 | Matrix110 | You work for Curse dont you? :P |
| 14:09.00 | ckknight | sure do |
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| 14:09.13 | Matrix110 | Cant you just grab one or is that "against" the rules? |
| 14:09.16 | ckknight | I should be in the first wave of author invite keys |
| 14:09.22 | ckknight | Matrix110: none to grab. |
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| 14:09.36 | Lanerra | Weren't they handing out keys at Comic Con this year? |
| 14:09.37 | ckknight | Blizz is the one sending out the keys to the individual authors |
| 14:09.53 | Matrix110 | and dont fix Ace2 bestest reason to let it slowly die :P |
| 14:10.09 | ckknight | are there any Europeans who don't have a key that (in my opinion) deserve one? |
| 14:10.15 | ckknight | I can get you an EU one |
| 14:10.17 | Matrix110 | me of course! |
| 14:10.25 | ccKep | I really deserve :D |
| 14:10.26 | Matrix110 | But I guess authors deserve it more |
| 14:10.27 | Matrix110 | :D |
| 14:10.55 | cncfanatics | I'm suposed to get mine soon :p thing is, I asked cairren, and according to her blizz might consider applying to both curse & wowi author keys as trying to scam two keys |
| 14:10.57 | Lanerra | By the way, ckknight, I was looking at the video preview for Cartographer 3 and I have to say that is incredibly impressive. It astounds me sometimes what addon authors can make the game do, and Cart3 is certainly no exception. Excellent work :) |
| 14:11.02 | cncfanatics | so I might actualy miss mine |
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| 14:11.46 | ccKep | same here cncfanatics |
| 14:11.53 | Matrix110 | Blizzard said no dublicated keys go out |
| 14:11.58 | ccKep | but I think there's a bunch of authors that've done that |
| 14:11.59 | kagaro | cncfanatics: wouldnt the point be you might not get one from curse so you try wowi as well |
| 14:12.00 | Matrix110 | so if you use the same emal |
| 14:12.03 | Matrix110 | *email |
| 14:12.06 | Matrix110 | they shouldnt care |
| 14:12.18 | cncfanatics | kagaro: I suposed so, but it seems not :p |
| 14:12.23 | cncfanatics | quoting cairenn here |
| 14:12.30 | Lanerra | Yeah, you'd think that would merely count as an attempt to double your odds of getting one |
| 14:12.35 | Matrix110 | If you are using the same Email/Username it shouldnt be a problem |
| 14:12.36 | ccKep | Matrix110: thing is (lets just assume my email is at@at.at in this example) |
| 14:12.37 | ckknight | Lanerra: glad you like it, please feel free to try it out, find bugs or features you want |
| 14:12.37 | Gnarfoz | I certainly hope they don't see that as scamming >_> |
| 14:12.43 | kagaro | since it is same email anyways |
| 14:12.50 | ccKep | I applied on curse and WoWI with my at@at.at email |
| 14:13.00 | Lanerra | And since UI Customization is such a big part of the game now, you'd think they'd want to get as many keys to authors as possible |
| 14:13.01 | ccKep | and of course I opted in as those became available |
| 14:13.04 | ccKep | with both of my accounts |
| 14:13.08 | Matrix110 | You wont get a key because you are austrian? :P |
| 14:13.12 | ccKep | which are both registered on at@at.at too ^ยท |
| 14:13.14 | Lanerra | I think I will, ck, just as soon as the servers are back up :) |
| 14:13.15 | kagaro | ccKep: same but I only have 1 account |
| 14:13.44 | ckknight | Lanerra: make sure to file tickets, that's what's useful |
| 14:14.04 | ccKep | so thats 2 interface-pages and 2 accounts for beta keys, but I'd just like to have 1, not 2 or 4 ^.^ |
| 14:14.07 | Cairenn | the thing you guys keep forgetting is that it isn't a contest on wowi - if you have a legit mod that meets the rules, you *will* get a key from us |
| 14:14.15 | Matrix110 | You only get 1 anyway |
| 14:14.20 | Cairenn | exactly the same as for the last expansion |
| 14:14.22 | ccKep | hope that |
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| 14:14.30 | ccKep | hope blizzard just ignores multiple applications |
| 14:14.32 | Pneumatus | Cairenn: surely that decision is made by blizzard |
| 14:14.34 | Lanerra | I'm unfamiliar with CurseForge, but I'll certainly give it a go if I encounter any bugs :) |
| 14:14.40 | Cairenn | so why people are signing up on both is beyond me |
| 14:14.50 | cncfanatics | Cairenn: its the "just in case" mentality |
| 14:14.52 | Matrix110 | hmmm |
| 14:14.53 | ccKep | Cairenn: as I said, I signed up on CF before I signed up on WoWI |
| 14:14.59 | Gnarfoz | now, if you signed up for curse's first and then noticed that chance is not involved at wowi's... ;p |
| 14:15.00 | cncfanatics | ckknight: in case you wanted to know, I changed the way PitBull_QuickHealth works |
| 14:15.01 | ccKep | and the wording on CF made it sound like a contest |
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| 14:15.09 | ckknight | ccKep: it's not a contest |
| 14:15.12 | ccKep | (talking about "winning projects") |
| 14:15.19 | ccKep | yeah, but the wording was like that at first |
| 14:15.24 | ckknight | meh |
| 14:15.25 | Vulcanus | I want my key because I want to play premade chars when they come, so I can test lv80 skills without worrying about content spoilage XD |
| 14:15.27 | ckknight | not my words, actually |
| 14:15.30 | ckknight | Kody-'s words |
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| 14:15.36 | Cairenn | still is, even after the feedback we gave you |
| 14:15.37 | ccKep | yeah, kody changed that after we told him |
| 14:15.40 | kagaro | ckknight: I went under the assumption the number of keys given to eat site was limited |
| 14:15.43 | ckknight | Vulcanus: so we can make premades? |
| 14:15.47 | ccKep | woot |
| 14:15.50 | Vulcanus | not now I think |
| 14:15.51 | Cairenn | it's ambiguous |
| 14:15.56 | Vulcanus | but it should happen at some point |
| 14:16.02 | ckknight | Vulcanus: cause, I mean, I don't have a lvl 70 yet |
| 14:16.08 | Cairenn | poofs again |
| 14:16.26 | ckknight | oh noes, teh poofingz |
| 14:16.29 | Vulcanus | I just want to test lv80 paladin awesomeness, I has a 70 paladin and I love it to bits |
| 14:16.35 | Lanerra | I just hope I get an opt-in key. I've always wanted to be in the beta of a Blizzard game. I'm fascinated by watching the progress of a game's development cycle |
| 14:16.36 | cncfanatics | ckknight: u shld rly leve a char :p |
| 14:16.37 | ckknight | I also play a pally |
| 14:16.38 | cncfanatics | lvl* |
| 14:16.41 | kagaro | I really wana see how well mind sear works for da spriest |
| 14:16.43 | ckknight | cncfanatics: but I have no time |
| 14:16.49 | cncfanatics | ckknight: I don't either, but I got 4 70s -.- |
| 14:16.59 | kagaro | 1 70 and 3 60's |
| 14:17.05 | Vulcanus | http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AVUNUU_lHDU |
| 14:17.10 | kagaro | why did I do that .. |
| 14:17.16 | Vulcanus | Hand me a cigarette, because I jsut came! |
| 14:17.34 | Lanerra | ...good to know, Vulcanus :P |
| 14:17.39 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 14:17.45 | Vulcanus | just watch the vid |
| 14:17.49 | Vulcanus | its nerdgasm |
| 14:17.56 | Neya | you were not supposed to get any email from you at cf, to confirm or deny that the email got in, right? Even though I belive my addon will make the shift to wotlk without any real complications. |
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| 14:18.18 | cncfanatics | I did get a mail from cf asking for some extra information, but thats it |
| 14:18.56 | Lanerra | Sorry if this has been answered somewhere and I missed it, but is the Curse Client essentially going to "replace" WowAceUpdater? |
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| 14:19.16 | cncfanatics | Lanerra: not quite |
| 14:19.17 | kagaro | I wonder if anyone has kgPanels on beta and tried to use any scripts .. |
| 14:19.18 | Neya | heh, my only addon got the slight problem of having Neya in the tocfile and another on the profile I upload with xD |
| 14:19.24 | Gnarfoz | Vulcanus: what's the second AE skill he uses? Divine Wrath? |
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| 14:19.39 | cncfanatics | the wowaceupdater pulls updates exclusivly from wowace, wowace will simply no longer host files, so that won't be possible |
| 14:19.46 | Lanerra | I see |
| 14:19.52 | Vulcanus | wat, he uses Divine Storm and Consecration |
| 14:19.57 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: I was queried because curse's email servers are configured wrong :P |
| 14:20.04 | Gnarfoz | Vulcanus: no he's using 2 instant AE spells there. |
| 14:20.15 | Lanerra | So how does one conveniently update all of their addons through a single, centralized program? Or will that be phased out as well? |
| 14:20.23 | Gnarfoz | Vulcanus: 4 figure dmg numbers, one set from Divine Storm, and another from.... something else |
| 14:20.26 | Gnarfoz | youtube sucks :p |
| 14:20.32 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 14:20.35 | Gnarfoz | also I guess he's still abusing JoJ |
| 14:21.07 | cncfanatics | Lanerra: curse client ;-) |
| 14:21.12 | Lanerra | Nice :D |
| 14:21.23 | cncfanatics | iirc, it'll pull from curse, wowi & maybe more ? (unsure there, very unsure) |
| 14:21.23 | Vulcanus | think he has shit like the stacks of vengeance (well corruption) on them |
| 14:21.27 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: not unless you pay for premium ;) |
| 14:21.27 | Lanerra | I was worried I'd have to hunt down each addon individually to update them |
| 14:21.40 | fewyn | Gnarfoz: for a one-click update yes |
| 14:21.48 | Gnarfoz | Vulcanus: that doesn't produce 4-figure dmg numbers, though ;) |
| 14:21.57 | Gnarfoz | and it can't crit since it's a DoT =] |
| 14:22.01 | Lanerra | Hmmmm...might just have to go premium then |
| 14:22.09 | Vulcanus | Paladins are awesome. That is all. |
| 14:22.10 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 14:22.17 | fewyn | Druids > Paladins |
| 14:22.18 | CIA-45 | 03adirelle * r79393 10CastYeller/CastYeller.lua: CastYeller: be smarted in getting the spell/item name. |
| 14:22.23 | Gnarfoz | I know, I'm leveling mine (when the beta server's not offline) |
| 14:22.29 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: actually in beta? no xD |
| 14:22.30 | ccKep | I heard they made channeled spells capable of crits too in beta now |
| 14:22.34 | fewyn | shh |
| 14:22.36 | ccKep | (namely, blizzard) |
| 14:22.40 | fewyn | don't ruin my dreams Gnarfoz |
| 14:22.42 | Gnarfoz | channeled =! DoT |
| 14:22.44 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: aren't addon authors getting free premium ? |
| 14:22.50 | Drundia | arcane missiles could always crit |
| 14:22.53 | ccKep | yeah, just indicating: "might change for dots too" ;) |
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| 14:23.02 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: a) IDK b) that's unrelated to his question :P |
| 14:23.08 | ccKep | ah ofc, forgot about AM |
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| 14:23.15 | Drundia | most of channeled spells were changed to periodic DD trigger instead of DOTs |
| 14:23.17 | fewyn | cncfanatics: I don't think they are, but you might be able to get it through AuthorRewards program tho |
| 14:23.17 | Drundia | well |
| 14:23.18 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: true |
| 14:23.26 | cncfanatics | fewyn: whats that ? |
| 14:23.29 | Drundia | Hellfire is like that, and later they changed Blizzard and Rain of Fire |
| 14:23.51 | Gnarfoz | hellfire can't crit o_O |
| 14:23.55 | Gnarfoz | at least I've yet to see it do |
| 14:24.00 | Drundia | but it was always DD on enemies |
| 14:24.04 | Drundia | so it should |
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| 14:24.11 | fewyn | cncfanatics: some kind of points/reward system curse is giving to addon authors let's you get neat swag and stuff |
| 14:24.12 | ccKep | it never did when I played lock |
| 14:24.17 | ccKep | (and that was my pre-BC main) |
| 14:24.29 | cncfanatics | fewyn: it ain't up yet is it ? |
| 14:24.41 | ZealotOnAStick | No, not yet. |
| 14:24.42 | Drundia | cncfanatics, it is, wowi does the same |
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| 14:25.20 | fewyn | cncfanatics: nope |
| 14:25.41 | Luthorhuss | Morning everyone! |
| 14:25.48 | Lanerra | Morning! |
| 14:26.02 | Gnarfoz | yay, got Bagnon working on beta... although I'd certainly like to know what's wrong with Ace2 now (since OneBag and BugSack stopped working) |
| 14:26.07 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: also, bug report inc |
| 14:26.15 | cncfanatics | Drundia: seems not ? :p |
| 14:26.19 | cncfanatics | and what exactly does wowi do ? |
| 14:27.52 | yoshimo | gnarfoz , maybe swatter instead of bugsack? dont know if that works on beta |
| 14:27.53 | Lanerra | Host addons :D |
| 14:28.22 | Pneumatus | there's definatly something weird happening with Ace2 on beta :< |
| 14:28.29 | Pneumatus | the addons appear to be loaded, at least partially |
| 14:28.45 | cncfanatics | Pneumatus: prolly some minor changes to make |
| 14:28.47 | Luthorhuss | ckknight: Is it possible to see nearest graveyard when your dead but not released in cartographer3 ? |
| 14:29.08 | ckknight | I thought it already did that |
| 14:29.09 | Pneumatus | i've got a sneaking suspicion its AceHook that's playing up |
| 14:29.15 | ckknight | shows the spirit healer guy |
| 14:29.17 | cncfanatics | Luthorhuss: tbh, I think just a display of graveyards on the map wether you're dead or not would be better :p |
| 14:29.22 | Pneumatus | but i have no real justification for that |
| 14:29.36 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: buggrabber works, bugsack doesn't ;) |
| 14:29.40 | Luthorhuss | cncfanatics: that would be fine too |
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| 14:30.03 | Pneumatus | my addon ClassLoot is working, but its not registering the interfaceoptions panel, and not hooking tooltips |
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| 14:30.05 | yoshimo | swatter saves the debuglog &captures it, so it could help |
| 14:30.14 | Luthorhuss | ckknight: But no ck, at least not for me (v8.1 atm) |
| 14:30.27 | Camci | anyone speak Portuguese here? |
| 14:30.37 | ckknight | Luthorhuss: I haven't had any issues at all with it... okay, got any errors? |
| 14:30.48 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: http://ace.pastey.net/92686 |
| 14:31.22 | cncfanatics | Camci: I can read it, not speak it though |
| 14:31.29 | Luthorhuss | ckknight: Hmm, nope.. I'll die abit and test out if it happens again, I just had the issue yesterday.. |
| 14:31.36 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: that's not the problem, BugGrabber does all the capturing (and can even output to chatframe), and it's not using a framework at all if I'm not mistaken. BugSack is just for easy display etc |
| 14:31.54 | Camci | cncfanatics: so you cant translate 4 words for me? |
| 14:31.55 | Drundia | cncfanatics, they promise to give away keys to authors.... |
| 14:32.07 | Pneumatus | is there any way to enable debugging directly on the ace2 libs? |
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| 14:32.20 | cncfanatics | Drundia: ah, u ment that :) |
| 14:32.26 | cncfanatics | Camci: prolly |
| 14:32.30 | cncfanatics | I prolly can I mean |
| 14:32.50 | Camci | ok, i need: |
| 14:32.51 | Camci | Date + Time |
| 14:32.55 | Camci | Tournament name |
| 14:32.58 | Camci | Prize |
| 14:33.06 | Camci | in Portuguese :P |
| 14:33.07 | cncfanatics | hmm, anoying words |
| 14:33.22 | cncfanatics | they're not really things commonly used for someone that jsut has some family living there -.- |
| 14:33.29 | cncfanatics | can't rly help ya sorry |
| 14:33.35 | Camci | hehe ok ty anyway |
| 14:33.57 | sylvanaar | can purl do portugese |
| 14:34.16 | syeren | Purl can do everything, sometimes it just doesn't want to though. |
| 14:34.27 | Drundia | *she |
| 14:34.32 | cncfanatics | yea, for example, it can give you a perfect example of failure |
| 14:34.40 | Gnarfoz | ~x en pt Prize |
| 14:34.41 | sylvanaar | ~x en de good |
| 14:34.50 | Gnarfoz | ~x en pt Tournament |
| 14:34.57 | Gnarfoz | ~x en pt name |
| 14:34.57 | Gnarfoz | etc |
| 14:34.58 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 14:35.09 | yoshimo | . /swatter show will display it ;) |
| 14:35.15 | Camci | o.O |
| 14:35.22 | Camci | so tjhats the correct Portuguese words ? |
| 14:35.37 | Gnarfoz | no guarantees :P |
| 14:35.51 | sylvanaar | you can use bablefish to get them |
| 14:35.53 | Camci | lol |
| 14:35.59 | sylvanaar | thats what purl does i think |
| 14:36.52 | ccKep | ~x de en Hallo |
| 14:36.58 | ccKep | suprise! |
| 14:37.22 | Drundia | tell the noob about bablefish |
| 14:37.23 | sylvanaar | ~x de en uberhaupt nicht |
| 14:37.39 | kagaro | ~fail sylvanaar |
| 14:37.40 | purl | sylvanaar, you Fail! |
| 14:37.46 | sylvanaar | do i need to add an e or an umlaut |
| 14:37.50 | Kuja^ | รยผ |
| 14:37.57 | Kuja^ | probaly |
| 14:37.59 | sylvanaar | i dont know how to type that |
| 14:38.07 | sylvanaar | ~x de en ueberhaupt nicht |
| 14:38.13 | sylvanaar | e works |
| 14:38.13 | Kuja^ | oh |
| 14:38.17 | Kuja^ | i see |
| 14:38.28 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail Shirik |
| 14:38.29 | purl | Shirik, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Shirik, you are that epic failure. |
| 14:38.32 | cncfanatics | I need to go home, cya all |
| 14:38.41 | cncfanatics | (finaly done from work) |
| 14:38.51 | Drundia | ~epicfailrik |
| 14:38.56 | Drundia | :( |
| 14:39.04 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: not at all is a figure of speech, though. |
| 14:39.05 | sylvanaar | ~x en cn Hello |
| 14:39.23 | Camci | ~x en tr Hello |
| 14:39.37 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: i.e. "not at all" in response to someone thanking you for something isn't "ueberhaupt nicht" ^^ |
| 14:40.29 | Drundia | ~x en zh Hello |
| 14:40.49 | sylvanaar | i know - you use it like 'sie kommt uberhaupt nicht' i was just seeing how purl would translate it |
| 14:40.56 | sylvanaar | omg she can |
| 14:41.08 | *** part/#wowace ShaneSveller (n=mellerfa@64-199-29-162.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 14:41.10 | sylvanaar | i thought cn was chinese |
| 14:41.23 | Drundia | zh is |
| 14:41.38 | sylvanaar | ~x en jp hello |
| 14:41.47 | sylvanaar | this is a fun game |
| 14:41.48 | Gnarfoz | there's more than just one chinese, so she doesn't take 'cn' |
| 14:42.02 | sylvanaar | ~x en tw hello |
| 14:42.06 | Gnarfoz | ~x en kr hello |
| 14:42.10 | Gnarfoz | omg bot abuse :> |
| 14:42.16 | sylvanaar | ~x en ar hello |
| 14:42.18 | Gnarfoz | but she does speak korean! :D |
| 14:42.23 | Drundia | ~x en zhTW Hello |
| 14:42.31 | Drundia | ~x en zhCN Hello |
| 14:42.39 | Drundia | same :( |
| 14:42.40 | kagaro | ~x it en venire a mancare |
| 14:42.44 | Drundia | or should it be? |
| 14:42.50 | sylvanaar | what is arabic? |
| 14:42.57 | sylvanaar | she doesnt seem to know it |
| 14:43.14 | nevcairiel | she only speaks what babelfish speaks |
| 14:43.25 | Gnarfoz | babelfish speaks arabic, though |
| 14:43.36 | nevcairiel | ~help x |
| 14:43.40 | Gnarfoz | ...doesn't |
| 14:44.14 | sylvanaar | ~x en ru hello |
| 14:44.16 | Gnarfoz | funny how, until now, we only chose ones that babelfish speaks :D |
| 14:44.47 | sylvanaar | it does alot |
| 14:45.02 | sylvanaar | like 13 or so |
| 14:45.14 | sylvanaar | ~x en gr hello |
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| 14:46.10 | Drundia | ok that ru has one mistake.... |
| 14:46.28 | sylvanaar | the exlamation mark |
| 14:46.59 | sylvanaar | or is that always attached to the word hello in russian |
| 14:47.07 | Drundia | no, it should be รยทรยดรยรยฐรยฒรยรยรยฒรยรยนรยรยต |
| 14:47.15 | Drundia | รยทรยดรยรยฐรยฒรยรยรยฒรยรยนรยรยต |
| 14:47.29 | sylvanaar | yes but, why did purl add ! |
| 14:47.40 | Drundia | no one knows |
| 14:47.40 | Kaaosa- | For emphasis |
| 14:47.59 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 14:47.59 | nevcairiel | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53042 |
| 14:48.00 | sylvanaar | but i didnt ask for "hello!" i asked for "hello" |
| 14:48.00 | nevcairiel | neat |
| 14:48.01 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 14:48.16 | Lanerra | Is anyone else looking forward to WoW Addon Studio 2.0? |
| 14:48.30 | yoshimo | do we know what alchemical blood does exactly? |
| 14:48.50 | Lanerra | Like what percentage it boosts the effect by? |
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| 14:49.00 | nevcairiel | should be easy enough to test |
| 14:49.01 | sylvanaar | i downloaded the source - i was trying to compile it, but i dont know what happened, i think it was missing something |
| 14:49.04 | nevcairiel | just drink some flask |
| 14:49.05 | Drundia | but it should be รยน instead of รยป anyway, and that ! is what babelfish does... silly bablefish.... |
| 14:49.38 | Lanerra | I can't wait for it to come out. I love the idea of a built-in sandbox, that's gonna rock my socks |
| 14:49.48 | Gnarfoz | Lanerra: doesn't do anything for potions, atm. elixirs have static improvements. |
| 14:50.12 | nevcairiel | how much of a improvement? |
| 14:50.20 | Gnarfoz | small but nice |
| 14:50.21 | sylvanaar | i was interested when i saw there was a 2.0 - thats why i tried to compile it - i dont know why i stopped |
| 14:50.27 | Gnarfoz | I think WoR has 2 of them up |
| 14:50.45 | Lanerra | *Shrug* Maybe they screwed something up when they made the source available? |
| 14:50.58 | sylvanaar | maybe |
| 14:51.01 | nevcairiel | sounds good enough to keep alchemy |
| 14:51.02 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 14:51.08 | sylvanaar | its still here, i could see |
| 14:51.24 | sb | nevcairiel: mh, dont think so :p |
| 14:51.40 | Lanerra | Latest code drop was on the 22nd of this month |
| 14:51.45 | kagaro | no chain chuggins pots :( |
| 14:51.49 | sb | will pick inscription instead of alchemy (which will be pretty useless w/o alch. stone) |
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| 14:52.32 | sb | - New Alchemy Passive Skill: Alchemical Blood (works with elixirs, broken for potions and flasks) |
| 14:52.32 | sb | Elixir of Major Agility +40 agility +25 crit rating (instead of 35 agi and 20 crit rating) |
| 14:52.32 | sb | Elixir of Major Fortitude +300 health (instead of 250 health) |
| 14:52.35 | sb | on WOR |
| 14:53.06 | ckknight | anyone know the name of the datetime format that's like 2008-07-29 12:34:56? it's like ISO 8601 without the T in the middle or the trailing Z |
| 14:53.28 | Lanerra | No clue, ck, sorry :( |
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| 14:54.55 | Lanerra | Well...I feel like quite the dunderhead...here I am downloading the source for Addon Studio 2.0 and it suddenly occurs to me that I don't know how to compile it... |
| 14:55.01 | kagaro | not off the top of my head |
| 14:56.20 | sylvanaar | the source code is really cool to read through - but i dont feel like fixing the build |
| 14:57.12 | Lanerra | By the way, does anyone know if this book is any good: World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons |
| 14:57.30 | Shirik | clad|away: ping |
| 14:57.36 | clad|away | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.41 | cubicool | Lanerra: it's fantastic. |
| 14:57.43 | clad|away | you were just fucking talking to me in the other channel |
| 14:57.44 | clad|away | i fucking hate you |
| 14:57.58 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:58.01 | cubicool | !wowprogramming |
| 14:58.08 | Shirik | It was at Lanerra's comment! |
| 14:58.17 | cubicool | purl: !help |
| 14:58.20 | cubicool | Bah! |
| 14:58.21 | clad|away | oh |
| 14:58.22 | Lanerra | Hmmmm...I might just get it then :) |
| 14:58.23 | nevcairiel | ~wowprogramming |
| 14:58.24 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 14:58.38 | cubicool | wtf, tilde? |
| 14:58.49 | nevcairiel | always been |
| 14:58.50 | clad|away | Lanerra: You can view the entire .TOC online, among other things at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 14:59.01 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:59.08 | Shirik | .TOC |
| 14:59.25 | cubicool | ~emuluate nevcairiel |
| 14:59.26 | Lanerra | Now I have to ask a rather stupid question, does the person who wrote that book frequent this channel? |
| 14:59.32 | clad|away | Lanerra: yes, I do :P |
| 14:59.33 | Shirik | you just talked to him |
| 14:59.37 | cubicool | Whoops, spelled emulate wrong. |
| 14:59.40 | Lanerra | 's head explodes |
| 14:59.46 | clad|away | so anyone here have experience with the MSI Wind or Advent 4211 (they're the same thing) |
| 14:59.49 | sylvanaar | it looks like it uses wowbench |
| 15:00.03 | charon | ckknight: my gnu 'date --help' calls that format RFC 3339, which specifies something of the ISO 8601 sort but says "Applications using this syntax may choose, for the sake of readability, to specify a full-date and full-time separated by (say) a space character." |
| 15:00.09 | kenlyric | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8402850321&pageNo=2&sid=1#37 |
| 15:00.10 | clad|away | sylvanaar: what does, addon studio? |
| 15:00.12 | Lanerra | Well, bless my soul. I'm in the presence of all kinds of famous people tonight ;) |
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| 15:00.17 | kenlyric | fog of war filtering in client? |
| 15:00.23 | clad|away | sylvanaar: I think its actually something entirely different.. but I don't recall |
| 15:00.38 | Lanerra | I'm a long time visitor/infrequent poster of wowace.com, never hopped on the IRC until this morning. I think I'll stick around, I like it here :) |
| 15:00.47 | sylvanaar | it is an IDE for developing wow addons based on visual studio |
| 15:01.02 | clad|away | I know what addon studio is, if you're talking to me :P |
| 15:01.06 | kenlyric | wait until we've abused you for a while, then decide how much you like it :) |
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| 15:01.23 | Lanerra | If memory serves, it was written as a demonstration of the flexibility of the Visual Studio suite it was designed with |
| 15:01.32 | sylvanaar | clad|away or sorry i misread, yes addon studio does |
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| 15:01.36 | ckknight | thanks, charon |
| 15:01.40 | clad|away | Lanerra: correct, that's why Dan and his team wrote the software |
| 15:01.54 | Lanerra | Interesting |
| 15:01.55 | clad|away | because they all play WoW and they wanted to show how you could take the VS shell and make a domain specific IDE with it. |
| 15:02.13 | Lanerra | Well, all I have to say is it's fricken brilliant work XD |
| 15:02.30 | clad|away | heh |
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| 15:03.56 | Lanerra | I'm currently using the modified SciTE program for all my modifications, tweaks, fixes, etc. |
| 15:03.57 | sylvanaar | yeah - it looks like they have ambitious goals for 2.0, its hard to tell how much of it has been code |
| 15:04.06 | clad|away | i know some of it has been worked on |
| 15:04.13 | clad|away | but they still haven't approached me for the api completion files |
| 15:04.18 | clad|away | although they're easy to providew |
| 15:04.20 | Lanerra | Right now, I have just enough experience to do little tweaks/add minor features/be a danger to myself and my user interface :P |
| 15:04.48 | Lanerra | Hence the desire to purchase that book lol |
| 15:04.54 | clad|away | well, I think you'll enjoy it |
| 15:05.01 | clad|away | amazon.com has some reviews up from people who've read it |
| 15:05.09 | clad|away | if you want to glance |
| 15:05.19 | Stan_ | why are the wws guys so fucking incompetent? |
| 15:06.14 | Stan_ | the scoreboard has errors showing up for weeks now and nobody cares :( |
| 15:06.14 | Lanerra | You're probably right. I got hooked on addons when I got my first compilation: MirageUI. I started tweaking it and pretty much got hooked from there. Now I spend more time on my UI then I do actually playing the game |
| 15:06.14 | Lanerra | And slimming down/fixing/adding small features to addons that is |
| 15:06.16 | sylvanaar | clad|away they are scraping wowwiki for the wow api's |
| 15:06.21 | clad|away | umm |
| 15:06.23 | clad|away | that's... stupid. |
| 15:06.43 | Lanerra | I'd love a glance. Unless you mean the stuff on Amazon, in which case I've already had a peep, and I like it :) |
| 15:06.48 | Shirik | gotta agree with clad|away on that one |
| 15:06.50 | Shirik | it's pretty stupid |
| 15:06.54 | sylvanaar | well, they have this WowAPIDownloader which does it |
| 15:07.01 | clad|away | Lanerra: I just mean the reviews people have written |
| 15:07.03 | clad|away | that's just idiotic |
| 15:07.14 | clad|away | considering I can provide them will a more comprehensive reference, and we've been partnered since December in some aspect. |
| 15:07.36 | Shirik | I haven't been able to trust all of wowwiki's data for correctness and (more obviously) completeness |
| 15:07.51 | sylvanaar | maybe its just some relic thats in the source |
| 15:07.55 | Shirik | and there's some VERY old stuff on wowwiki that is very bad pratice |
| 15:08.15 | Lanerra | Yeah, I have that problem myself. Finding out where to go to look up accurate API references |
| 15:08.24 | clad|away | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api |
| 15:08.26 | Shirik | wowprogramming.com |
| 15:08.35 | Lanerra | For example, moving the damn TimeManagerClockButton. Fricken thing doesn't seem to want to move no matter what Id o |
| 15:08.38 | Lanerra | I do, rather |
| 15:08.55 | clad|away | !api SetMoveable |
| 15:08.55 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'SetMoveable'. |
| 15:08.58 | clad|away | !api SetMovable |
| 15:08.59 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'SetMovable'. |
| 15:09.01 | clad|away | *gasp* |
| 15:09.02 | clad|away | oh yeah |
| 15:09.08 | clad|away | i don't have it scrape the widget pages yet |
| 15:09.11 | clad|away | DAMN YOU SALAZAR! |
| 15:10.05 | Lanerra | I've tried a simple: TimeManagerClockButton:SetPoint("TOP", Minimap) :I've tried disecting it and hiding the border and background and moving only the text. Thing seems to be fricken glued on to that psot |
| 15:10.08 | Lanerra | Spot, rather |
| 15:10.19 | clad|away | Lanerra: you'd need to clear the current points first |
| 15:10.31 | Lanerra | Tried calling that first, as well |
| 15:10.37 | clad|away | one sec |
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| 15:10.49 | Lanerra | I can get the background and border to vanish just fine, but the text never seems to want to move |
| 15:13.11 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r79394 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 15:13.11 | CIA-45 | MiniPet: |
| 15:13.11 | CIA-45 | - Fix for minipets that are summoned from an equipped item |
| 15:13.29 | Lanerra | ...why does CIA-45 keep saying stuff like that? |
| 15:13.30 | Stan_ | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/mobhealthpoints2.jpg < niiiice, cu MobHealth |
| 15:13.33 | sylvanaar | clad|away they have a widgetapi scraper also |
| 15:13.39 | clad|away | Lanerra: http://cladhaire.pastey.net/92692 |
| 15:13.44 | clad|away | sylvanaar: sad sad story =( |
| 15:14.05 | sylvanaar | also WoWFeedGrabber, which im not sure what it is yet |
| 15:14.06 | nevcairiel | Lanerra: its a bot that announces commits to our svn repository |
| 15:14.08 | clad|away | that's why wowprogramming.com > wowwiki.com.. I can generate any format that anyone needs for the entire API, widgets, events, cvars, etc. |
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| 15:14.37 | Lanerra | Ooooo, thanks, Clad. I'll give that a go as soon as I can. I don't suppose there's a way to just simply alter it's anchor spot is there? Sorry if I'm bugging you -.- |
| 15:14.42 | clad|away | Lanerra: yep, hold on. |
| 15:15.02 | kagaro | clad|away: do you have a bot to run against the patches to regen the api ? |
| 15:15.07 | clad|away | yep |
| 15:15.12 | clad|away | i upload an api master file |
| 15:15.17 | clad|away | and everything is dynamic from there. |
| 15:15.30 | sylvanaar | it looks like it makes an rss feed from your saved variables |
| 15:15.31 | Lanerra | TimeManagerClockButton:ClearAllPoints() |
| 15:15.31 | Lanerra | TimeManagerClockButton:SetPoint("TOP", Minimap) |
| 15:15.31 | Lanerra | doesn't seem to work...so it's got me baffled |
| 15:15.55 | sylvanaar | Set the parent to UIParent |
| 15:16.09 | nevcairiel | the parent doesnt matter for positioning |
| 15:16.12 | clad|away | TimeManagerClockButton:ClearAllPoints() |
| 15:16.13 | clad|away | TimeManagerClockButton:SetPoint("TOP", Minimap, "TOP") |
| 15:16.19 | clad|away | Lanerra: that works just fine for me, without any issues |
| 15:16.27 | clad|away | and the third "TOP" is not necessary |
| 15:16.40 | clad|away | sylvanaar: that's for an addon they wrote that lets you read your rss feeds in game |
| 15:16.44 | Lanerra | Weird...I wonder why mine doesn't move...I'll give that one a go, too, Clad. Thanks |
| 15:16.57 | clad|away | who wants to level me to 70? |
| 15:17.03 | clad|away | ready go! |
| 15:17.22 | sylvanaar | ~x en zh power level |
| 15:17.30 | clad|away | sylvanaar: win! |
| 15:17.41 | Lanerra | ย /tar clad|away |
| 15:17.42 | Lanerra | .level 70 |
| 15:18.07 | Lanerra | Nothing? Damn, I tried :P |
| 15:20.51 | yoshimo | how do i get to the european betaforums? |
| 15:21.14 | nevcairiel | set the sid to 2003 |
| 15:21.38 | nevcairiel | or use http://beta.wow-europe.com/forums/ |
| 15:22.02 | sylvanaar | oh god my ups battery warning is on - the thing wont shut up |
| 15:22.33 | Shirik | ya |
| 15:22.49 | Shirik | I had to remove my ups battery to get it to stfu :P |
| 15:22.55 | Shirik | You mean like you've had it for years and need it replace? |
| 15:22.57 | sylvanaar | good idea |
| 15:23.17 | sylvanaar | its about 2 yrs old - the battery |
| 15:23.20 | Shirik | yeah |
| 15:23.24 | sylvanaar | so, i have to replace it now |
| 15:23.27 | Shirik | I still need a new battery >.> |
| 15:23.31 | Shirik | But I've been lazy |
| 15:23.57 | sylvanaar | i have another one sitting next to it thats unplugged, im too lazy to switch |
| 15:24.08 | cog|away | 07:59 < Lanerra> Now I have to ask a rather stupid question, does the person who wrote that book frequent this channel? |
| 15:24.12 | cog|away | So do I =) |
| 15:24.51 | Lanerra | Sweet XD |
| 15:25.12 | Lanerra | It's funny, for some reason I didn't think this channel would be this active |
| 15:25.21 | ccKep | cogwheel: any word from slouken or so regarding the energy/mana changes on beta? haven't seen it mentioned anywhere officially so far |
| 15:25.24 | sylvanaar | it ebbs and flows |
| 15:25.34 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 15:25.35 | Lanerra | I thought it would be stuff like: "How do I fix "X" addon?" "<Answer>" "Thanks, bye" |
| 15:25.39 | Vonhinten | It takes a lot of bots to make this channel this active |
| 15:25.57 | Shirik | Lanerra, you have too much confidence in human sanity |
| 15:25.58 | kenlyric | we talk about all sorts of things. Witness |
| 15:26.01 | kenlyric | ~kenlyric |
| 15:26.02 | purl | you are probably <Ellipsis> pfft, if I was raping kenlyric I wouldn't be going for the crack |
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| 15:26.10 | cubicool | Seriously, they better nerf DKs. |
| 15:26.12 | sylvanaar | ~emulate Shirik |
| 15:26.13 | purl | I'll answer that in a few minutes when this web page has finished loading... |
| 15:26.23 | cubicool | Their current OPness is inconceivable... |
| 15:26.35 | Shirik | No, you know what's op? |
| 15:26.39 | Shirik | improved holy concentration |
| 15:26.51 | cogwheel | ccKep: I get info from blizz at pretty much the same rate as everyone else :P But tbh, I don't think that's slouken's realm to begin with... |
| 15:26.55 | Shirik | that talent was already awesome, it did not need an "improved" |
| 15:26.56 | Lanerra | For some reason, I also didn't expect the addon authors to be as talkative. I always imagined them too busy working on their addons for much socialization. Indeed...I think I shall be frequenting this channel as much as possible :) |
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| 15:27.16 | Shirik | Lanerra: I find it easier to think about things while chatting |
| 15:27.17 | cubicool | Have you seen that screenshot or a 450 resil priest being one shot by that ret pally thing? |
| 15:27.20 | ccKep | dunno if its a mechanic change or just a UnitHealth / UnitMana change, so I don't know who is responsible :D |
| 15:27.31 | Shirik | like, in particular, how I'm going to handle a Lua panic; staring at code isn't going to help me :P |
| 15:27.38 | Shirik | so I'm here chatting while thinking about it |
| 15:27.45 | Lanerra | That's comforting to know, I'm the same way :) I guess I'm used to raids where it's like: "Shut up, we're trying to do progression shit here!" |
| 15:27.50 | cubicool | ~emulate purl |
| 15:27.51 | purl | ACTION tries to look like herself. |
| 15:27.58 | cubicool | zomg a girl bot |
| 15:28.04 | EthanCentaurai | ~emulate me |
| 15:28.05 | purl | Emulate you? I dont think I can dumb myself down that much! |
| 15:28.06 | Vonhinten | purl's a girl eh |
| 15:28.17 | sylvanaar | ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 15:28.24 | Shirik | owned |
| 15:28.26 | sylvanaar | i think mine are deleted |
| 15:28.28 | Vonhinten | haha |
| 15:28.34 | Lanerra | Wait a minute...cogwheel...aren't you the MVP on the Interface Forums? |
| 15:28.40 | Shirik | s/the/an/ |
| 15:28.56 | kagaro | hey cogwheel i got a question for you |
| 15:28.59 | cogwheel | Lanerra: yeah, but that doesn't get me much :P |
| 15:29.05 | clad|away | hey cogwheel I just wanted to join in saying your name |
| 15:29.09 | Shirik | hi cogwheel! |
| 15:29.11 | cogwheel | woo hoo! |
| 15:29.12 | Lanerra | Haha, I thought your name looked familiar :) |
| 15:29.12 | Shirik | ~emulate cogwheel |
| 15:29.13 | purl | ~lart3mis |
| 15:29.18 | Shirik | haha |
| 15:29.22 | kagaro | is the make file for lua511 include the unicode library on mac? |
| 15:29.33 | Lanerra | ~emulate Lanerra |
| 15:29.43 | Shirik | purl doesn't know you yet :P |
| 15:29.46 | cogwheel | kagaro: Lua is unicode-agnostic |
| 15:29.49 | sylvanaar | lua .. unicode .. what? |
| 15:29.51 | kagaro | unexpected symbol near 'รยฏ' |
| 15:29.52 | EthanCentaurai | ~emulate EthanCentaurai |
| 15:29.52 | purl | Can anyone send me their old L Plates? I want to play Tetris! |
| 15:29.54 | kagaro | line 1 |
| 15:30.02 | kagaro | file is in utf8 format |
| 15:30.04 | cogwheel | kagaro: oh... you must have the BOM |
| 15:30.11 | cogwheel | vanilla lua chokes on that |
| 15:30.14 | Ackis | lua> print("U GIEV COGWHEEL") |
| 15:30.14 | lua_bot | Ackis: U GIEV COGWHEEL |
| 15:30.18 | Ackis | :D |
| 15:30.20 | cogwheel | kagaro: |
| 15:30.22 | cogwheel | ~lua-wow |
| 15:30.23 | purl | lua-wow is probably a Lua 5.1.1 distribution customized by Cogwheel to more closely resemble the Lua environment of World of Warcraft. http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-wow (not to be confused with wowlua) |
| 15:30.23 | Shirik | vanilla lua supports it with the BOM? |
| 15:30.41 | kagaro | cogwheel: yeah thats what im building |
| 15:30.42 | Shirik | I didn't expect that |
| 15:30.48 | cogwheel | ^ correctly handles the BOM |
| 15:31.02 | Lanerra | Wow...a lua bot...good God, there's a bot in here for everything |
| 15:31.03 | kagaro | i just did a make, than ran luac on some source i get that error |
| 15:31.12 | nevcairiel | Shirik: no it doesnt |
| 15:31.14 | cogwheel | hmm |
| 15:31.16 | Lanerra | Don't worry, folks, my noobness will rub off soon, I promise :) |
| 15:31.18 | Shirik | ah ok that's what I thought |
| 15:31.42 | fewyn | omg~! potion sickness? LAME.... I NEED TO POT EVERY COOLDOWN! |
| 15:31.43 | kagaro | hold on might have been a path issue 1 sec |
| 15:31.59 | Lanerra | Potion sickness? Where'd you hear about that? |
| 15:32.12 | kagaro | yeah my bad cogwheel, forgot a ./ |
| 15:32.15 | fewyn | beta |
| 15:32.30 | fewyn | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/july/potionsickness.jpg |
| 15:32.30 | kagaro | so ran my luac I built a while back |
| 15:33.01 | Lanerra | Why add that? They've already got a decently lengthy cooldown as it is |
| 15:33.07 | Lanerra | Unless they're shortening that cooldown |
| 15:33.31 | ccKep | making encounters even less consumable driven I think |
| 15:33.34 | clad|away | yep |
| 15:33.38 | clad|away | they can balance away from potions |
| 15:33.40 | ccKep | as they did with elixirs earlier |
| 15:33.43 | clad|away | which is a good thing for everyone except alchemists. |
| 15:33.50 | ckknight | kagaro: k? |
| 15:34.08 | fewyn | yes but they always poorly balance this stuff at the start |
| 15:34.18 | kagaro | ckknight: ? |
| 15:34.22 | Shirik | what is potion sickness? |
| 15:34.25 | ccKep | sunwell was balanced really fine |
| 15:34.29 | ckknight | kagaro: nvm |
| 15:34.32 | kagaro | path issue, resolved cogwheel its all good |
| 15:34.32 | clad|away | Shirik: can't drink a pot until combat ends and you rest |
| 15:34.38 | Shirik | what triggers it? |
| 15:34.40 | cogwheel | kagaro: kk |
| 15:34.42 | Shirik | just taking a pot? |
| 15:34.42 | clad|away | drinking a potiopn |
| 15:34.46 | fewyn | drinking a pot of any kind |
| 15:34.46 | clad|away | one potion per combat, basically |
| 15:34.48 | Shirik | so you can only use one per fight now? wow |
| 15:34.53 | fewyn | yea |
| 15:35.01 | Shirik | That changes some of my opinions on holy concentration, lol :P |
| 15:35.03 | fewyn | mana pots better fill my entire god damn bar then |
| 15:35.18 | Lanerra | I hear that, Fewyn lol |
| 15:35.26 | Shirik | fewyn, what class do you play? |
| 15:35.31 | fewyn | shadow priest |
| 15:35.39 | clad|away | lulz? |
| 15:35.43 | Shirik | hm, ok. Well first off, stop playing fail tree |
| 15:35.45 | fewyn | and druid |
| 15:35.45 | kagaro | fewyn: you got an alternative |
| 15:35.48 | Shirik | go holy like a real priest! |
| 15:35.53 | fewyn | fuck no |
| 15:35.56 | ccKep | wonder how they would've balanced loloatheb around that earlier on xD |
| 15:36.03 | fewyn | i stopped going holy after i finished up naxx |
| 15:36.05 | kagaro | cooldown on dispresion now 3 mins, so long fight your gona have to pop it often |
| 15:36.10 | Shirik | hugs his holy priest |
| 15:36.21 | Shirik | !c us drenden kimina |
| 15:36.29 | kagaro | and hope for lots of crits from mb/swd |
| 15:36.30 | Shirik | we have no thraebot anymore :( |
| 15:36.42 | kagaro | fewyn: i feel the pain as well <-- spriest too |
| 15:36.42 | clad|away | ~literal onjoin wowluaircbot |
| 15:36.56 | clad|away | damn someone removed it |
| 15:37.10 | Shirik | can you literal something like that? |
| 15:37.18 | fewyn | ~lart clad|away |
| 15:37.18 | purl | pushes the wall down onto clad|away whilst whistling innocently |
| 15:37.27 | clad|away | yes, you can literal anything purl has |
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| 15:38.13 | wowluaircbot | Guess so :P |
| 15:38.17 | clad|away | Shirik: its been removed |
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| 15:38.25 | clad|away | i wasn't speculating |
| 15:38.34 | Shirik | I was confirming :P |
| 15:38.43 | clad|away | err.. thanks? |
| 15:38.44 | clad|away | ;P |
| 15:39.01 | Shirik | Seriously, I need to figure out why I fail at IRC's quit command |
| 15:39.06 | Shirik | Isn't it just "QUIT :Message" ? |
| 15:39.16 | Ellipsis | should be |
| 15:39.18 | fewyn | depends on the client |
| 15:39.24 | Shirik | the client was telnet |
| 15:39.28 | Shirik | I'm talking about the protocol |
| 15:39.29 | Lanerra | ย /quit <Your Message Here> |
| 15:39.34 | Ellipsis | sighs |
| 15:39.43 | Shirik | But look, it says "client quit" |
| 15:39.47 | Shirik | But I did "QUIT :pz" |
| 15:39.58 | Shirik | so... |
| 15:40.03 | sylvanaar | hrm |
| 15:40.09 | Shirik | and it's always done that |
| 15:40.22 | EthanCentaurai | maybe it's because this channel is in Conference Mode it's being hidden... :S |
| 15:40.27 | Ellipsis | that should be the proper format |
| 15:40.42 | Lanerra | So...just out of blatant curiosity, what is Dan Gilbert's screen name? |
| 15:40.47 | Ellipsis | although some poorly coded ircds will drop single-word arguments if they are after the : |
| 15:40.55 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Telnet (n=Shirik@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 15:40.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Telnet] by ChanServ |
| 15:40.57 | Ellipsis | try it without the : or add a space in the message? |
| 15:41.20 | Ellipsis | fail :< |
| 15:41.22 | Shirik | QUIT :This is a test |
| 15:41.22 | Shirik | ERROR :Closing Link: conspiracy/developer/Shirik (Client Quit) |
| 15:41.22 | Shirik | Connection to host lost. |
| 15:41.24 | clad|away | Lanerra: he doesn't have one here |
| 15:41.30 | clad|away | Lanerra: he's in LA working on his career |
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| 15:42.10 | Pneumatus | does the ircd allow quit messages? |
| 15:42.11 | Lanerra | Oh, awesome. If you don't mind my asking is his career simply programming, or does he specialize in a specific area? |
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| 15:42.23 | Shirik | yes Pneumatus |
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| 15:43.06 | Shirik | well, dropping the : was... interesting |
| 15:43.09 | Shirik | now I have a ghost |
| 15:43.16 | Lanerra | Howdy, Seerah |
| 15:43.18 | Shirik | QUIT another test |
| 15:43.18 | Shirik | ERROR :Closing Link: conspiracy/developer/Shirik (Client Quit) |
| 15:43.31 | Pneumatus | how about /quote QUIT Test |
| 15:43.31 | Shirik | oh wait, I never joined the channel, ha |
| 15:43.34 | *** part/#wowace hiflyer (n=hiflyer@h228n2c1o255.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 15:43.46 | Shirik | Pneumatus... there are no slash commands |
| 15:43.56 | clad|away | lol |
| 15:43.57 | Pneumatus | ignore the /quote bit then :P |
| 15:43.58 | Shirik | I think Ellipsis is the only one that understood what I was saying >< |
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| 15:44.03 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 15:44.04 | clad|away | i did |
| 15:44.05 | clad|away | asshole |
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| 15:44.08 | clad|away | licks Ellipsis |
| 15:44.11 | Shirik | well yes but you weren't answering me! |
| 15:44.11 | *** part/#wowace hiflyer (n=hiflyer@h228n2c1o255.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 15:44.17 | Ellipsis | wipes it off on Shirik |
| 15:44.32 | Shirik | :< |
| 15:44.37 | clad|away | =( |
| 15:44.42 | Shirik | wait |
| 15:44.46 | Shirik | why does it say I was kicked in here |
| 15:44.56 | Shirik | guess because it was the active window |
| 15:45.08 | Pneumatus | i mean, without the colon but a single-word message, colon just indicates there will be more than 1 arg following the command |
| 15:45.16 | Aii | well Shirik, you're doing it right according to the RFC :x |
| 15:45.22 | *** join/#wowace Shirik|Telnet (n=Shirik@conspiracy/developer/Shirik) |
| 15:45.25 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Telnet] by ChanServ |
| 15:45.29 | Shirik | maybe there's some sort of time limit |
| 15:45.30 | Ellipsis | what Aii said |
| 15:45.40 | Ellipsis | is it possible that it's some spam-protection by freenode? |
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| 15:45.44 | Shirik | maybe |
| 15:45.49 | Ellipsis | either because you didn't identify, or hadn't been connected long enough? |
| 15:45.57 | Shirik | I did identify, but maybe I'll wait 30 minutes and disconnect |
| 15:46.06 | Fisker- | Ellipsis's Ellipsis |
| 15:46.10 | Fisker- | doh |
| 15:46.25 | Ellipsis | doh's Fisker- |
| 15:46.39 | Aii | doughs Fisker- |
| 15:46.39 | Fisker- | you're not allowed |
| 15:46.52 | Fisker- | you're hurting my e-feelings |
| 15:46.56 | Ellipsis | :o |
| 15:47.12 | Aii | digs around for the "go cry emo kid" poster |
| 15:47.14 | Ellipsis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/hay-be-nice-emokitteh-is-sensitive.jpg |
| 15:47.44 | EthanCentaurai | receives a lot of money from Fisker- |
| 15:47.54 | Fisker- | no |
| 15:47.59 | Aii | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/16/go-cry-emo-kid/ |
| 15:48.32 | ccKep | hunter with beta access in here? |
| 15:48.39 | Lanerra | I wish :( |
| 15:48.51 | Fisker- | why ccKep ? |
| 15:48.53 | Ellipsis | nah, hunters aren't smart enough to figure out how to activate their betas |
| 15:48.55 | Ellipsis | runs and hides |
| 15:49.11 | ccKep | http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2123&c=15 << I'd actually like to know if the "Pet" tab up top is just the old pet-tab (with pet statistics) or if thats gonna replace the stable master or so |
| 15:49.39 | Fisker- | still the old pet tab for nonhunters |
| 15:50.05 | Pneumatus | for anyone that cares, i have a feeling i know whats going wrong with Ace2 addons on beta |
| 15:50.12 | Lanerra | Pet tab, as I understand it, is going to contain vanity pets and mounts now |
| 15:50.26 | Kaaosa- | ^ |
| 15:50.27 | Lanerra | They will no longer take up bank and bag space and instead will be 'castables' |
| 15:50.33 | Pneumatus | yup |
| 15:50.35 | Fisker- | he knew that Lanerra |
| 15:50.40 | Pneumatus | everyone now has a pet tab in their character sheet |
| 15:50.48 | Lanerra | Oh my bad |
| 15:51.09 | Vonhinten | woohoo, alchemists get a passive that increases the effect of their own goods? that's awesome |
| 15:51.13 | ccKep | guess vanity pets are "companions" |
| 15:51.17 | ccKep | mounts are mounts ofc |
| 15:51.18 | EthanCentaurai | 's head explodes. |
| 15:51.35 | Pneumatus | yeh, vanity pets go in Companions |
| 15:51.37 | ccKep | but I wanted to know if the "Pet" tab looks the same, so that hunters can take multiple pets "with them" and change on the fly for example |
| 15:51.47 | Chompers | http://img-02.offload.711chan.org/b/src/12169170664.jpg |
| 15:51.48 | ccKep | but it appears to be the old stat-screen |
| 15:51.52 | Chompers | kitty picture for ckknight |
| 15:51.56 | Chompers | Fisker-!!!! |
| 15:52.07 | Pneumatus | there's no 'stable' type view on the normal pet frame |
| 15:52.11 | ckknight | kittehs! |
| 15:52.13 | Pneumatus | just the standard view |
| 15:52.28 | ccKep | ckkitty |
| 15:52.33 | ckknight | that is awesome. |
| 15:52.42 | ckknight | that may become my new avatar. |
| 15:52.56 | Ellipsis | but but |
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| 15:53.03 | Vonhinten | Is Runeforging a tradeskill, or something everyone gets? |
| 15:53.10 | ccKep | its DK |
| 15:53.11 | Pneumatus | for some reason, Ace2 addons arent having their OnInitialise() or OnEnable() functions fired |
| 15:53.15 | Vonhinten | ah |
| 15:53.16 | Pneumatus | every DK gets it |
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| 15:53.37 | ccKep | it replaces enchants on your weapons, makes meh a little sad -.- |
| 15:53.42 | ckknight | Ellipsis: but what? |
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| 15:53.49 | Chompers | Fisker- : guess what i killed last night |
| 15:53.53 | Ellipsis | I can't find it |
| 15:54.01 | Ellipsis | there was that one picture of the cat in the chain mail armor |
| 15:54.19 | Fisker- | your mom Chompers |
| 15:54.25 | Vonhinten | wow, finally, http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2112&c=15 |
| 15:54.27 | Chompers | NO FISKER |
| 15:54.30 | Chompers | i killed illidan |
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| 15:54.35 | Chompers | how cool is that |
| 15:54.37 | Vonhinten | Only been saying that needed to be added for ages now |
| 15:55.16 | Chompers | got a glaive too, horay |
| 15:55.23 | Lanerra | Ooooo, yeah, the calendar. That's awesome |
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| 15:56.27 | Fisker- | old news is old |
| 15:56.31 | Fisker- | and shitty site is shitty |
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| 15:56.49 | Chompers | no warrior updates :< |
| 15:56.54 | Fisker- | please be more considerative in the future |
| 15:56.57 | ccKep | woot, whats Ahn'kahlet: The Old Kingdom ? |
| 15:57.05 | ccKep | didnt hear anything about that until now |
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| 15:57.20 | Aii | noms Fisker-. |
| 15:57.21 | Lanerra | Or Violet Hold |
| 15:57.33 | Fisker- | good luck Aii |
| 15:57.45 | Fisker- | violet hold is stockades in dalaran |
| 15:58.12 | Lanerra | Ah, I see |
| 15:58.19 | ccKep | guess violet hold is mapid 608 (dalaran prison) |
| 15:58.30 | ccKep | but I couldn't find a map id for ahn'kahlet stuff |
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| 16:00.07 | Pkekyo| | .RAW is a fucking sick format |
| 16:00.23 | Pkekyo| | half an hour to transfer 144 photos |
| 16:00.33 | sb | well its... raw!? :p |
| 16:01.19 | Pkekyo| | >.< |
| 16:01.20 | sylvanaar | it probably reads them 1 byte at a time |
| 16:01.46 | Vonhinten | it's probably uncompressed targa or something |
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| 16:01.58 | Shirik | it's actually a bit more than that |
| 16:01.58 | Vonhinten | meaning, each photo is probably 5 megs |
| 16:02.21 | Pneumatus | yup, Ace2 is definatly not firing OnEnable() calls |
| 16:02.23 | Shirik | RAW is literally just a dump of the values from each pixel on the CCD |
| 16:02.44 | Shirik | which is more than targa, because often times the A-D supports more BPP than the format it will store it in |
| 16:03.16 | Shirik | that's why a lot of professionals like to store in RAW, because sometimes it can help you touch up photos to have that extra bit of precision |
| 16:03.28 | Shirik | such as bringing out a picture from a very underexposed image |
| 16:04.12 | Lanerra | Yeah, modifying the levels of a raw will keep the data all intact, instead of dropping information from the file |
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| 16:04.51 | Pkekyo| | Vonhinten: no, it's not targa, it's RAW - and ofcourse uncompressed...and alot more than 5mb/photo |
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| 16:06.20 | ccKep | Pneumatus: better fix it before I join beta ^.^ |
| 16:06.34 | sylvanaar | well removing the battery did not make the ups happy |
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| 16:06.39 | Pneumatus | Ace2 code is way beyond something i'm willing to mess with :P |
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| 16:06.41 | Aii | lol sylvanaar |
| 16:06.45 | sylvanaar | now it chirps every second |
| 16:06.52 | Shirik | rofl sylvanaar |
| 16:06.58 | Shirik | is yours APC? |
| 16:07.19 | ccKep | is it only onenable or oninitialize too? |
| 16:08.13 | Pneumatus | both it seems |
| 16:08.26 | sylvanaar | yes |
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| 16:08.46 | sylvanaar | the other one i had to lift off the desk, it weighs over 50 pounds i think |
| 16:09.17 | sylvanaar | now im going to have to reboot my machine - goddammit |
| 16:09.40 | Shirik | ok sylvanaar |
| 16:09.50 | Shirik | ou should be able to move your plugs over to a different side |
| 16:10.02 | Shirik | on the other side should be one that doesn't run on battery |
| 16:10.12 | Shirik | when you have the UPS off, those are still on |
| 16:10.28 | Shirik | marked as "surge only" I think |
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| 16:14.02 | Lanerra | Howdy, MoonWolf |
| 16:14.12 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@12.179.203.45) |
| 16:14.20 | Lanerra | Welcome back, Sylvanaar |
| 16:14.36 | sylvanaar | thanks APC |
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| 16:14.48 | CIA-45 | 03kagaro * r79395 10GatherMate/Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: GatherMate: added ru translations, credit Dr. Jet Cheshirsky |
| 16:14.55 | Vulcanus | ha MoonWolf from WoWRadio |
| 16:15.04 | sylvanaar | this does mean that i have an exuse to purchase a new UPS |
| 16:15.07 | MoonWolf | Vulcanus, actually its the reverse |
| 16:15.08 | Lanerra | Alrighty, so again, why does CIA-45 keep announcing addon stuff? |
| 16:15.14 | MoonWolf | i was here before i joined wowradio. |
| 16:15.18 | Shirik | sylvanaar, did you catch my last message? |
| 16:15.22 | sylvanaar | no |
| 16:15.28 | Shirik | 14(1211:0911:0014) 14(11+Shirik14) ok sylvanaar |
| 16:15.28 | Shirik | 14(1211:0911:1014) 14(11+Shirik14) ou should be able to move your plugs over to a different side |
| 16:15.28 | Shirik | 14(1211:0911:2214) 14(11+Shirik14) on the other side should be one that doesn't run on battery |
| 16:15.28 | Shirik | 14(1211:0911:3214) 14(11+Shirik14) when you have the UPS off, those are still on |
| 16:15.28 | Shirik | 14(1211:0911:4714) 14(11+Shirik14) marked as "surge only" I think |
| 16:15.31 | Vulcanus | same diff :p I'm Belazor in their IRC, so hai ^^ |
| 16:16.30 | sylvanaar | Shirik, yes that would have been smart to just use the unswitched connections |
| 16:16.30 | kenlyric | Lanerra: that's it's job |
| 16:16.42 | Lanerra | So it announces recent changes to addons? |
| 16:16.43 | sylvanaar | Shirik but the alarm was preventing logical thought |
| 16:16.47 | kenlyric | yes |
| 16:16.47 | Shirik | haha :) |
| 16:16.51 | ckknight | Lanerra: yea, if someone commits, it sends out a message |
| 16:16.53 | Lanerra | Ah, coolness |
| 16:17.10 | kenlyric | there's also #wowace-cia which only has those messages |
| 16:17.51 | sylvanaar | bots are fun |
| 16:17.59 | Lanerra | That's pretty cool :) |
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| 16:19.42 | Aii | then there's #wowace-fbi which has messages about addon kidnappings |
| 16:20.06 | Lanerra | Nice |
| 16:20.35 | Aii | and #wowace-dohs which no one quite knows what it's for, but it uses a lot of server resources and makes some people feel good |
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| 16:21.16 | Vulcanus | you lie, theres nothing there |
| 16:21.18 | sylvanaar | i was playing with it for AoC before i quit playing |
| 16:21.19 | Groktar | would that be the DON'T TOUCH MY CODE rollbacks? |
| 16:21.23 | Groktar | :D |
| 16:23.07 | ckknight | Aii: it's just dhs, not dohs |
| 16:23.38 | Aii | "dohs" is so much more appropriate though |
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| 16:35.20 | CIA-45 | 03julith * r79396 10HealGraph/ (HealGraph.lua HealGraph.toc IncomingEvents.lua): |
| 16:35.20 | CIA-45 | HealGraph: |
| 16:35.20 | CIA-45 | - added option to disable incoming damage tracking |
| 16:35.20 | CIA-45 | - added new incoming damage tracker |
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| 16:39.24 | Pneumatus | i've found the cause of Ace2 addons not loaded, if anyone cares |
| 16:39.27 | Pneumatus | no idea how to fix it tho :) |
| 16:39.31 | Lanerra | What's that? |
| 16:39.47 | Pneumatus | inside |
| 16:39.48 | Pneumatus | function AceAddon.prototype:init() |
| 16:39.57 | Pneumatus | there is a line: |
| 16:39.58 | Pneumatus | if IsAddOnLoaded(i) then names[GetAddOnInfo(i)] = true end |
| 16:40.19 | Pneumatus | when that loop happens, none of the addons are loaded |
| 16:40.49 | Pneumatus | well, IsAddOnLoaded() is returning false (or nil -- need to check) |
| 16:40.59 | Lanerra | That's odd...and all of a sudden that bit of code just went kaput, eh? |
| 16:41.25 | nevcairiel | Your finding is not exactly true |
| 16:41.25 | Pneumatus | it means that the possibleNames table isnt getting populated with addon names to be sent for initialisation |
| 16:41.49 | Pneumatus | its not? o.O |
| 16:42.09 | Lanerra | What do you think it is, Nev? |
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| 16:42.33 | nevcairiel | I don't even know what the issue is, never encountered anything |
| 16:42.56 | nevcairiel | however that loop is executed for every addon when it loads |
| 16:43.05 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: on beta, OnInitialize() and OnEnable() aren't firing on any Ace2 addon |
| 16:43.07 | nevcairiel | so there are actually loaded addons to be put |
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| 16:44.21 | nevcairiel | Hm yay, i didnt have to deprecate Ace2, blizz did for me :D |
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| 16:44.34 | Aii | lol nev |
| 16:44.56 | Aii | would be nice if Ace3 were fully documented before WotLK is released, then :P |
| 16:44.57 | Lanerra | Nice, heh |
| 16:45.11 | nevcairiel | Aii: get on it =P |
| 16:45.15 | |Pixel| | documen-what ? |
| 16:45.20 | Aii | nevcairiel: I'd be glad to help |
| 16:45.34 | Lanerra | Documentation is over-rated |
| 16:45.40 | Aii | coughs |
| 16:45.40 | nevcairiel | I can supply descriptions of what an API expects and what it does |
| 16:45.50 | nevcairiel | however i suck at wordy docs that explain shit |
| 16:46.25 | Aii | Even just a complete methods/arguments listing for each lib would be nice |
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| 16:46.35 | |Pixel| | doxygen ftw |
| 16:46.36 | Aii | right now only about 4-5 of them seem to have such |
| 16:46.56 | Lanerra | It would be a sufficient tide-you-over, in my opinion |
| 16:47.23 | Lanerra | The complete methods/arguements listing, that is |
| 16:47.41 | nevcairiel | I'll be pushing to document the full API once my exams are over |
| 16:48.02 | Aii | brb |
| 16:48.12 | nevcairiel | in the meantime, feel free to ask ;) |
| 16:48.16 | sylvanaar | !joke |
| 16:48.16 | SylBot | Yo momma like a doorknob - everyone gets a turn! |
| 16:48.56 | NeoTron_ | about time - "You can now see the health points of any monster without any external mod" |
| 16:49.11 | NeoTron_ | I didn't like it in beta when they removed that possibility |
| 16:49.15 | Lanerra | Woah, I missed that one. Where's that at, NeoTron? |
| 16:49.24 | NeoTron_ | glad to see they realize with mobhealth3 it isn't worth trying to avoid it |
| 16:49.26 | nevcairiel | patch from today |
| 16:49.26 | NeoTron_ | mmo-champion |
| 16:49.42 | Lanerra | Ooooo, I'll have to go have a peep |
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| 16:55.30 | NeoTron_ | imp scorch => mages are now debuff bitches |
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| 16:56.37 | NeoTron_ | not to mention it's required to maximize dps with any mage spec |
| 16:59.03 | Lanerra | Oh wow, and it's not even a guestimate, it's precise health. That's awesome XD |
| 16:59.44 | kagaro | hrmm with Ace2 not working atm, wonder if bigwigs is gona get an update to ace3 |
| 16:59.59 | kagaro | or backlevel some fix to ace2 for wrath |
| 17:00.10 | fewyn | or switch to dbm |
| 17:00.18 | nevcairiel | ~lart fewyn |
| 17:00.18 | purl | beats fewyn over the head with a microkernel |
| 17:00.24 | Stan_ | dbm = teh fail |
| 17:00.25 | fewyn | =p |
| 17:00.34 | nevcairiel | there is a BigWigs3 in planning |
| 17:00.40 | nevcairiel | for wotlk |
| 17:00.42 | fewyn | i didn't like bigwigs for some reason |
| 17:00.44 | kagaro | dbm sucks .. and since they just grab data from bigwigs anyways .. |
| 17:00.47 | fewyn | i can't remember why |
| 17:00.53 | Pneumatus | well, its a fair comment though, there are lots of mods that run fine at present with Ace2 that will be dead unless there's a fix |
| 17:01.08 | Pneumatus | so unless authors re-code to Ace3 then people are gonna look elsewhere |
| 17:01.50 | nevcairiel | except redoing the options table, migrating Ace2 -> Ace3 is relatively eeasy |
| 17:01.54 | nevcairiel | might even write a guid for that |
| 17:01.57 | nevcairiel | *guide |
| 17:02.08 | Pneumatus | are Ace3 addons working on beta, ive not actually got any running to test |
| 17:02.16 | nevcairiel | I dont see why not |
| 17:02.17 | profalbert | some are |
| 17:02.31 | Pneumatus | profalbert: even after todays patch which broke ace2? |
| 17:02.36 | kagaro | profalbert: you in beta right now arent you ? |
| 17:02.37 | nevcairiel | Ace3 is nearly independant from the API |
| 17:02.41 | profalbert | i am |
| 17:02.43 | sylvanaar | i have started using ace3 for prat3, seems ok so far |
| 17:02.57 | profalbert | not yet today... lemme check |
| 17:02.59 | nevcairiel | it only uses the ADDON_LOADED event |
| 17:03.01 | sylvanaar | what broke ace2 though - please splain |
| 17:03.11 | nevcairiel | we're not sure =P |
| 17:03.23 | Pneumatus | i'm still trying to test a theory, but the realms are down atm |
| 17:03.45 | Vangual | witchhunt is ace3 and seems to work fine in todays build |
| 17:03.49 | Pneumatus | im sure its to do with the moment in time that IsAddOnLoaded() is called though, populating the possibleNames table |
| 17:03.51 | nevcairiel | I'll try to validate any ideas once i get my key, and once i'm back in town next monday |
| 17:03.54 | falconindy | US realms are coming up, fyi |
| 17:04.52 | nevcairiel | If its really that bug in AceAddon that Pneumatus things it is, it'll be a mess to fix, because the design relys on it |
| 17:04.56 | nevcairiel | (flawed design imho) |
| 17:05.20 | sylvanaar | !Bash nevcairiel |
| 17:05.21 | SylBot | Yamauta: I yelled at a vegetarian once because he was drinking wine. I said, "Wine is made of grapes, which is a fruit. Beer is made of barley and hops, which are vegetables. You fail as a vegetarian." |
| 17:05.23 | SylBot | Yamauta: of course... I was pretty far gone at that point. |
| 17:05.25 | SylBot | Yamauta: but I still pwned his vegetable eating ass. |
| 17:05.37 | Shirik | yup, that was it |
| 17:05.41 | sylvanaar | !quit |
| 17:05.42 | Shirik | It was some anti-spam thing |
| 17:05.49 | Shirik | ( @ Ellipsis ) |
| 17:06.31 | Ellipsis | grats on figuring it out |
| 17:06.36 | Pneumatus | i am categorically sure that when AceAddon:ADDON_LOADED(name) runs the initAddon table never gets populated |
| 17:07.34 | falconindy | sylvanaar: is prat3 available on the SVN? |
| 17:07.47 | sylvanaar | its not even working |
| 17:08.08 | sylvanaar | i mean - its in development |
| 17:08.12 | sylvanaar | but yeah |
| 17:08.14 | falconindy | oh, eww... are you guys gonna be able to have a fix for whatever's borking the Ace2 framework? |
| 17:08.34 | falconindy | i can't live without prat =P |
| 17:08.44 | Ellipsis | prat doesn't need ace2 |
| 17:08.50 | Ellipsis | try it with rock, maybe it will work :P |
| 17:08.50 | nevcairiel | too bad for your life span, imho =P |
| 17:08.57 | falconindy | eh, then why isn't prat loading? |
| 17:09.10 | nevcairiel | delete ace2, install rock, test |
| 17:09.22 | nevcairiel | (if that silly abstraction layer is still in) |
| 17:09.33 | Ellipsis | (as if sylvanaar would remove it) |
| 17:09.37 | sylvanaar | he did |
| 17:09.51 | jaxdahl | you don't appreciate yourself enough to not speak in third person? |
| 17:10.03 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:10.03 | falconindy | mmmm, would that affect other mods relying on Ace2? Or would using Rock in place solve that as well?I'm setup with no-externals |
| 17:10.28 | Ellipsis | afaik prat is the only addon that has both ace2 and rock code |
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| 17:10.43 | nevcairiel | falconindy: no, it won't affect any other addons (except that they'll lack Ace2 if you delete it) |
| 17:10.44 | sylvanaar | gah Ellipsis, it does not |
| 17:10.56 | nevcairiel | However for now, noone that even remotely knows the Ace2 code has beta access |
| 17:11.02 | nevcairiel | so unless you feel like donating a key |
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| 17:11.06 | nevcairiel | you're out of luck |
| 17:11.15 | EthanCentaurai | I reckon either IsAddOnLoaded(i) is returning false/nil, or GetAddOnInfo(i) isn't returning the ## Title field as the first argument. Would it be possible to add temporary debug script which spews out the returns of these functions? |
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| 17:11.26 | falconindy | oh... this is solely a beta problem with ace2? |
| 17:11.33 | nevcairiel | falconindy: yes |
| 17:11.33 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 17:11.47 | kagaro | hopefully blizz fires off the developer keys todays |
| 17:11.49 | falconindy | nowwww it all makes sense. ive got my own issue to deal with on live then |
| 17:11.58 | Pneumatus | i'm fiddling with it at the moment EthanCentaurai, just waiting for the EU realm to wake up again |
| 17:12.04 | Pneumatus | to at least find the cause |
| 17:12.10 | elite3vil | falconindy: is the server up yet? |
| 17:12.35 | falconindy | US realms are coming up |
| 17:12.41 | Groktar | has an email from noreply@blizzard.com |
| 17:12.41 | falconindy | medivh is, yeah =P |
| 17:12.56 | kenlyric | reply to it |
| 17:13.01 | jaxdahl | Groktar, automatic gm ticket? |
| 17:13.08 | Groktar | hehe |
| 17:13.14 | Groktar | my paid name change |
| 17:13.20 | EthanCentaurai | goes to see a Mage Trainer and tries to learn Conjure WotLK Key (Rank 1) |
| 17:13.21 | Groktar | from a couple weeks ago |
| 17:13.24 | nevcairiel | We will probably fix Ace2 if we figure out how, i still encourage anyone to start new mods on Ace3 (or no framework), Ace2 is supposed to be deprecated with wotlk (if thats even possible) |
| 17:13.26 | Groktar | never said it was a new email |
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| 17:13.39 | Ellipsis | it's certainly possible if nobody fixes it |
| 17:13.44 | jaxdahl | the beta code emails don't come from that email anyway :p |
| 17:13.45 | Ellipsis | fantasizes |
| 17:14.01 | Groktar | logs on wowace svn and delete ace3 |
| 17:14.13 | nevcairiel | Groktar: its protected =P |
| 17:14.16 | Ellipsis | isn't ace3 protected like ace2? |
| 17:14.19 | Groktar | idk |
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| 17:14.24 | Groktar | and i meant to type ace2 |
| 17:14.30 | Ellipsis | ~fail Groktar |
| 17:14.30 | purl | Groktar: FAIL! |
| 17:14.36 | nevcairiel | i tink only 4 peopel can commit to Ace3 |
| 17:14.41 | Groktar | aren't you glad i do data entry on tax returns at the irs? |
| 17:14.41 | nevcairiel | some more for Ace2 |
| 17:14.48 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 17:14.48 | Groktar | with my amazing typing skills? |
| 17:14.50 | jaxdahl | i hope one of them isn't you, with your command of skills |
| 17:14.55 | jaxdahl | command of typing skills :p |
| 17:15.05 | Groktar | hehe |
| 17:15.13 | Lanerra | You are a data transcriber, too, Groktar? That's what I do for a living :) |
| 17:15.23 | Groktar | it's only seasonal |
| 17:15.23 | jaxdahl | is an ex-employee of the nteu |
| 17:15.27 | Groktar | i'm kind of bad at it |
| 17:15.28 | Lanerra | Same here |
| 17:15.35 | Lanerra | Except I'm good at it :P |
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| 17:15.42 | Groktar | but the last month of the season i got incentive pay every week |
| 17:15.46 | Groktar | so i guess i was getting better |
| 17:15.56 | Lanerra | You at the Fresno Site by chance? |
| 17:15.58 | Groktar | made rates on 43210s |
| 17:15.58 | Groktar | ya |
| 17:16.02 | Lanerra | Me, too XD |
| 17:16.16 | Groktar | i was in 406 |
| 17:16.17 | Lanerra | I work in RPS |
| 17:16.25 | Groktar | o |
| 17:16.28 | Lanerra | 209 here |
| 17:16.31 | Groktar | i don't even know what that is |
| 17:16.33 | Groktar | was my first season |
| 17:16.40 | jaxdahl | i was in TAS |
| 17:16.47 | Lanerra | Remittance Processing Systems, we handle the checks people send in to pay their taxes |
| 17:16.59 | Pneumatus | the thing i cant grasp though, if AceAddon.protoype:init() is called, the addon _must_ be loaded, surely |
| 17:17.09 | jaxdahl | taxpayer advocate service -- the good guys of the IRS |
| 17:17.10 | Lanerra | Actually, we kind of do everything when there isn't RPS work to do |
| 17:17.22 | Lanerra | I love NTEU, they're my best friends |
| 17:17.28 | jaxdahl | i hated the NTEU |
| 17:17.37 | Lanerra | The IRS seem to be a constant state of screwing over employees |
| 17:17.49 | Groktar | i got screwed out of 20 hours of pay |
| 17:18.03 | Groktar | over my training and refresher course |
| 17:18.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it's not even erroring, that's kind of a bad place to start debugging at ^^ |
| 17:18.25 | Lanerra | That's why you should be in the union, they'd of squared that shit away ASAP |
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| 17:18.31 | Groktar | i am |
| 17:18.35 | Groktar | and i should have gone |
| 17:19.00 | Lanerra | Yeah, maybe there's something you can do come next season or something. I'd go have a look if I were you |
| 17:19.01 | sylvanaar | you know that i got an EMAIL from APC as soon as my UPS alarm went off |
| 17:19.25 | sylvanaar | "Summer specials" |
| 17:19.30 | Groktar | yay server up |
| 17:20.22 | Lanerra | Figures that mine's still down |
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| 17:22.58 | NeoTron_ | I think there's a significant loss of productivity in the addon devo community due to everyone checking their email about 4711 times per day |
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| 17:23.09 | Lanerra | Wow, looks like they seriously did some improvements to the graphics renderer for Wrath |
| 17:23.25 | Lanerra | I'm seeming quite a bit more shader effects in the screenshots, lots more specular too |
| 17:23.43 | NeoTron_ | and yet the DK flying mount is ugly as heck |
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| 17:23.45 | NeoTron_ | I'm not jealous |
| 17:23.58 | Lanerra | Well, the design might change, never know |
| 17:24.15 | Lanerra | After all, they could have just put the skeletal gryphon circling Karazhan in as a placeholder |
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| 17:25.45 | NeoTron_ | sure |
| 17:25.52 | NeoTron_ | I am just baggled how ugly it is :) |
| 17:26.02 | NeoTron_ | like it doesn't even look cool because it's unique |
| 17:26.30 | Gnarfoz | Lanerra: it's capable of more stuff, (real shadows), but that's about it. wotlk however starts with higher settings, so maybe you're mistaking that for better graphics ;) |
| 17:26.39 | NeoTron_ | wow this is AMAZING: "Snake caught with cow in stomach - pictures" |
| 17:26.43 | NeoTron_ | LOVES spam. |
| 17:26.45 | Lanerra | I really am impressed that they are more prominently using Specular Maps and higher quality shader effects, though. I wonder if they'll start dipping into Parallax and Normal Maps as well |
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| 17:27.14 | Lanerra | For those of us with computers that can handle it :) |
| 17:27.25 | Gnarfoz | Lanerra: where are they doing that? haven't seen anything like that |
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| 17:27.34 | Lanerra | Dalarran |
| 17:27.37 | Groktar | hmm |
| 17:27.46 | Aii | headdesks repeatedly |
| 17:27.46 | Groktar | i can't figure out how to turn on focus target in aguf |
| 17:27.59 | Lanerra | The rooftops of Dalarran, the stained glass in certain places, they also appear to have changed the water shader/texture |
| 17:27.59 | Aii | some people should not be allowed to call helpdesks |
| 17:28.40 | Groktar | hehe |
| 17:28.42 | Dashkal | Aii: Oh I so do not envy you |
| 17:28.48 | Lanerra | *Calls help desk to get his 4000 Free AOL Hours transferred to his work computer so he can use it from work so they don't go to waste* |
| 17:29.10 | Groktar | i did pc helpdesk for 6 months |
| 17:29.15 | Lanerra | I've actually heard of that one happening, haha |
| 17:29.25 | Groktar | by the end i was calling in sick like every other day |
| 17:29.29 | Aii | Specifically, emeritus faculty who can't seem to grasp the concept of "click on the big button labeled 'Empty Trash'" |
| 17:29.33 | Groktar | and eventually just stopped coming |
| 17:29.43 | Groktar | i couldn't take those retards anymore |
| 17:30.29 | Aii | If anything, I'm too patient. :| |
| 17:30.55 | nevcairiel | Isnt that perfect to work a helpdesk? |
| 17:31.09 | cubicool | I do Linux tech support for a living (along with various kinds of development and research). :) |
| 17:31.21 | Aii | Why do you think I'm my boss' favorite employee, nevcairiel :X |
| 17:31.40 | NeoTron_ | Lanerra: I'd like the water (and trees, grass perhaps) to have some movement (wind) |
| 17:31.54 | NeoTron_ | but I'm looking forward to actual shadows |
| 17:32.06 | Lanerra | Yeah, the shadow thing is pretty cool |
| 17:32.15 | Groktar | o |
| 17:32.16 | nevcairiel | movement in grass? thats to insane for the wow gfx |
| 17:32.17 | Groktar | hideframe! |
| 17:32.24 | Lanerra | Do you already know about the console commands to increase graphics quality beyond what the video settings interface offers? |
| 17:32.38 | NeoTron_ | nevcairiel: wind yes |
| 17:32.53 | NeoTron_ | mainly water though |
| 17:33.03 | Gnarfoz | gogo beta server, come on, you can do it... >_> |
| 17:33.04 | NeoTron_ | it being perfectl calm at all times is disconcerting |
| 17:33.26 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't waves be like, really easy to do with pixel shaders? ^^ |
| 17:33.29 | nevcairiel | a snow storm isnt calm <.< |
| 17:33.40 | NeoTron_ | it shouldn't be very hard |
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| 17:33.50 | nevcairiel | They probably have other focus |
| 17:34.02 | Lanerra | Actually, it's not, Nev. As long as the groundEffectDensity CVar isn't set too high |
| 17:34.02 | nevcairiel | adding shadows is a bitch of a task |
| 17:34.09 | NeoTron_ | well they did that :P |
| 17:34.15 | nevcairiel | its not finished |
| 17:34.20 | NeoTron_ | so now when that is done, make water move! |
| 17:34.21 | nevcairiel | landscape doesnt cast shadows yet |
| 17:34.22 | NeoTron_ | it's not? |
| 17:34.26 | nevcairiel | and its bugged alot |
| 17:34.38 | NeoTron_ | I saw screenshots of landscape casting shadows |
| 17:34.49 | Lanerra | And yeah, the water could be done with a modification of the shader |
| 17:34.50 | NeoTron_ | specifically a screenshot of mulgore |
| 17:34.54 | nevcairiel | (shadows going through objects and continueing on the other side, etc) |
| 17:35.09 | Lanerra | And displacement maps |
| 17:35.30 | NeoTron_ | shadows really add a lot of value imho |
| 17:35.37 | nevcairiel | yeah, good start |
| 17:35.42 | NeoTron_ | hopefully changing as the day changes |
| 17:35.57 | Lanerra | Oh you mean shadows that shift as the sunsets/rises? |
| 17:35.57 | nevcairiel | thats easy to do |
| 17:35.57 | NeoTron_ | ofc maybe that means I'll never see shadows since I plan mostly in the evening :P |
| 17:35.59 | nevcairiel | so i doubt they wont |
| 17:36.06 | NeoTron_ | Lanerra: right |
| 17:36.21 | NeoTron_ | the harder part comes in that every lightsource should affect shadows |
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| 17:36.37 | nevcairiel | they'll probably just go with sun shadows for now |
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| 17:36.39 | NeoTron_ | I wonder if "light sources" today actually are actual sources of lights |
| 17:36.41 | Lanerra | Well, in theory they could save some processing on the client side by baking the shadows in so everyone can enjoy the quality of moving landscape shadows |
| 17:36.43 | Gnarfoz | landscape does cast shadows already, from what I remember (lol I didn't really pay attention, and it's down right now) |
| 17:36.58 | Lanerra | It would give the illusion of dynamic landscape shadows, and be light on the client-side processing |
| 17:37.03 | nevcairiel | i've seen screenshots where the shadows were somewhat wrong on landscapes |
| 17:37.06 | Gnarfoz | but the really wrong part is of course that shadows don't seem to obey visibility yet |
| 17:37.10 | Pneumatus | if you stand on the top of a cliff and look down the side, you will see your char casts a shadow, but the landscape doesnt |
| 17:37.11 | NeoTron_ | Gnarfoz: man how did YOU get into beta! ;-) |
| 17:37.13 | Gnarfoz | neither do they add |
| 17:37.30 | CIA-45 | 03clagio * r79401 10furyDPS/: furyDPS: v0.5 |
| 17:37.32 | Pneumatus | your shadow just appears to be floating |
| 17:37.37 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron_: I'd say wowi, but those keys didn't go out yet :> |
| 17:38.11 | Lanerra | And there's a console setting in the beta client that enables high resolution dynamic player/npc/landscape shadows with soft-shadowing |
| 17:38.20 | ulic | someone speculated they moved do the dynamic shadows because of the new destructable objects. |
| 17:38.28 | Lanerra | But it warns that that's the "Ultra" setting and shouldn't be used unless you have a bad-ass system |
| 17:38.46 | Pneumatus | you mean extShadowQuality 0-6? |
| 17:38.46 | nevcairiel | shadow quality 5 and 6 will most likely still be re-worked or vanish completly |
| 17:38.58 | nevcairiel | they said its just experimental |
| 17:39.01 | Pneumatus | 5 and 6 make my graphics fall over :) |
| 17:39.01 | Lanerra | So with the soft-shadowing you can have different light sources effect shadows in different ways |
| 17:39.12 | Lanerra | That's the one, Pneum |
| 17:39.30 | Pneumatus | but yeh, the shadows need a lot of work still :> |
| 17:39.33 | NeoTron_ | so ar shadows cpu intensive or mostly gpu intensive? |
| 17:39.39 | Lanerra | extShadowQuality 6 is the high resolution player/NPC/landscape dynamic soft-shadow one |
| 17:39.44 | nevcairiel | both NeoTron ;) |
| 17:39.45 | NeoTron_ | I'm clearly cpu bound atm |
| 17:39.52 | Lanerra | It depends, really |
| 17:40.01 | sylvanaar | World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade - Welcome to Closed-Beta! (Mon 11/13/2006 4:10 PM) it was on a monday |
| 17:40.05 | NeoTron_ | my gpu isn't amazingly taxed for the most part |
| 17:40.06 | Lanerra | If your video card can't handle all the processing, it will probably hand off some of the work to the CPU |
| 17:40.19 | nevcairiel | we kinda established that they use shadow maps |
| 17:40.45 | CIA-45 | 03clagio * r79402 10furyDPS/ (29 files in 10 dirs): furyDPS: Bars for dps warrior v0.5 |
| 17:40.54 | Lanerra | Yeah, at the moment they do |
| 17:41.05 | NeoTron_ | http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4361/30801da52f163693688afbeqr8.jpg <- landscape shadows yes? |
| 17:41.16 | Lanerra | I saw a screenshot of someone with dynamic shadows, but I think it was before this patch...I don't know how they did it |
| 17:41.34 | Lanerra | Oh, man, that looks so fricken awesome |
| 17:41.41 | CIA-45 | 03clagio * r79403 10furyDPS/Libs/ (30 files in 11 dirs): furyDPS: Bars for dps warrior v0.5 |
| 17:41.43 | Pneumatus | any idea what quality thats set at NeoTron_? |
| 17:41.56 | Lanerra | Probably 3 |
| 17:41.57 | NeoTron_ | no clue |
| 17:42.04 | nevcairiel | looks like pre-5/6 |
| 17:42.29 | nevcairiel | however, landscape shadows are bugged in some situations |
| 17:42.32 | Pneumatus | definatly doesnt look like anything i can get out of 1-4 anyway |
| 17:42.37 | nevcairiel | like if you stand directly on a cliff and look down |
| 17:42.45 | CIA-45 | 03clagio * r79404 10furyDPS/ (5 files in 5 dirs): furyDPS: |
| 17:42.45 | Lanerra | 1 = Low |
| 17:42.45 | Lanerra | 2 = Medium-Low |
| 17:42.45 | Lanerra | 3 = Medium |
| 17:42.46 | Lanerra | 4 = Medium - High |
| 17:42.46 | Lanerra | 5 = High |
| 17:42.46 | Lanerra | 6 = Ultra |
| 17:43.19 | nevcairiel | The jump iis between 4 and 5, you dont see much difference from 1-4 and not much from 5-6 |
| 17:43.52 | Lanerra | Haha...one of the achievement counters is how many time you've died by Hogger lol |
| 17:44.14 | Pneumatus | i got the turkey killing achievement this morning |
| 17:44.19 | Pneumatus | that was awesome |
| 17:44.38 | Aeyan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfwR7MiIhHo |
| 17:44.40 | Aeyan | Little shadows video |
| 17:44.47 | CIA-45 | 03clagio * r79405 10furyDPS/ (AceAddon-2.0/ AceDB-2.0/): furyDPS: v0.5 |
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| 17:45.06 | CIA-45 | 03clagio * r79406 10furyDPS/AceLibrary/: furyDPS: v0.5 |
| 17:45.27 | Lanerra | That looks damned nice |
| 17:45.34 | Pneumatus | clagio forgot to use externals? o.O |
| 17:45.59 | jaxdahl | well i tried the shadows for a bit |
| 17:46.14 | jaxdahl | but i found that the areas where it didn't work right were too much of a distraction so i turned them off |
| 17:46.48 | Gnarfoz | youtube sucks, why do you use that for a preview of something that's supposed to *improve* wow's image quality :p |
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| 17:47.03 | Pneumatus | doesnt it have an HR version? |
| 17:47.08 | Gnarfoz | youtube? xD |
| 17:47.16 | profalbert | youtube, HR? |
| 17:47.25 | Gnarfoz | hm ok, the improvement over the baked in lightmaps is still pretty obvious, granted |
| 17:47.27 | Moddington | sweet shadows |
| 17:47.30 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: saw my ping earlier? |
| 17:47.36 | Moddington | here's hoping ti doesn't drown fps |
| 17:47.42 | profalbert | Gnarfoz: nope ;) |
| 17:47.53 | Aeyan | Because it's the only shadow video on the wotlk wiki, hehe |
| 17:47.55 | profalbert | need better IRC-client some time |
| 17:47.56 | Gnarfoz | Moddington: it does add some load, but the lower settings are not that bad |
| 17:48.38 | Moddington | Gnarfoz: well, my compy should be upgraded by then, new motherboard and everything, so no problems there |
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| 17:49.02 | Gnarfoz | the only thing it'll tax is your gpu. |
| 17:49.10 | Lanerra | Damn, my server's still down |
| 17:49.15 | NeoTron_ | so it seems eternal flames talent description was nerfed |
| 17:49.19 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: http://ace.pastey.net/92686 |
| 17:49.20 | NeoTron_ | but it still renews immolate |
| 17:49.37 | Moddington|afk | exactly why I'm upgrading my motherboard to one that has better slots |
| 17:49.53 | profalbert | gnarfoz: ah, that's in the wotlk-thingy |
| 17:49.56 | Gnarfoz | yep |
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| 17:50.06 | profalbert | just finished downloading the patch |
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| 17:50.21 | Gnarfoz | that was on the old build, too, though, profalbert ;) |
| 17:50.40 | Gnarfoz | too bad ace2 is messed up atm, :\ |
| 17:51.15 | Gnarfoz | also, rockconfig's "addon preferences" button is blocking the tracking icons @ minimap... >_> |
| 17:51.30 | nevcairiel | Parrot doesnt use Ace2, so you are good? |
| 17:51.39 | profalbert | should be |
| 17:51.59 | profalbert | it uses Ace2 for Deformat |
| 17:52.09 | nevcairiel | that only uses AceLibrary |
| 17:52.09 | profalbert | which I use for loot, reputation and stuff |
| 17:52.11 | nevcairiel | not AceAddon |
| 17:52.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: that was unconnected |
| 17:52.15 | profalbert | right |
| 17:52.21 | Gnarfoz | *unrelated |
| 17:52.56 | Pneumatus | yeh, it just seems to be AceAddon thats messing us about :< |
| 17:53.09 | Gnarfoz | just bugsack died for me, and OneBag. but Bagnon was easily fixed (and works way better than OneBag) |
| 17:53.10 | profalbert | the Auras.lua just needs the UnitAura() update |
| 17:53.19 | Gnarfoz | the what :> |
| 17:53.24 | Gnarfoz | can you push that? ;) |
| 17:53.37 | profalbert | haven't written it yet :P |
| 17:54.55 | profalbert | need git for parrot |
| 17:55.19 | nevcairiel | use git-svn until you get a remote git repo? :P |
| 17:55.29 | Gnarfoz | hm what's the update about? and... yeah, that |
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| 17:56.22 | profalbert | gnarfoz: the old function GetPlayerBuffs() has been replaced by UnitAura() |
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| 17:57.34 | Groktar | omg unexpected mod interactions |
| 17:57.57 | Groktar | so i think i'm using cooldown count to put timers on my actionbars |
| 17:57.59 | CIA-45 | 03cncfanatics * r79407 10PitBull_QuickHealth/PitBull_QuickHealth.lua: PitBull_QuickHealth: optimization by mapping guid's to unitid's |
| 17:57.59 | CIA-45 | 03cncfanatics * r79408 10Grid_QuickHealth/Grid_QuickHealth.lua: Grid_QuickHealth: optimization by mapping guid's to unitid's |
| 17:58.04 | Lanerra | Holy crap...this Cartographer 3 is just fun as hell XD |
| 17:58.08 | Groktar | and for some reason it's putting timers on aguf buffs! |
| 17:58.14 | CIA-45 | 03cncfanatics * r79409 10sRaidFrames_QuickHealth/sRaidFrames_QuickHealth.lua: sRaidFrames_QuickHealth: optimization by mapping guid's to unitid's |
| 17:58.25 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: OmniCC does that, too, and the reason is simple |
| 17:58.35 | Gnarfoz | they hook the cooldown spiral model to know where to put their text |
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| 17:58.45 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: GetPlayerBuffName()? |
| 17:58.48 | profalbert | gnarfoz: oh, the fix is much simpler |
| 17:59.05 | Groktar | becomes giddy with anticipation |
| 17:59.20 | profalbert | GetSpellInfo(1020) |
| 17:59.25 | profalbert | think it returns nil in beta |
| 17:59.33 | profalbert | Divine Shield |
| 17:59.41 | Gnarfoz | only in the latest build |
| 18:00.04 | Gnarfoz | the error occured in the build from 2 days ago, too, though |
| 18:01.21 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: ah... 1020 is DS rank 2 |
| 18:01.28 | Gnarfoz | there's no rank 2 anymore ^^ |
| 18:01.35 | profalbert | ah |
| 18:01.41 | Groktar | so what if you query rank 1? |
| 18:01.52 | Groktar | or is it an entirely new id? |
| 18:02.04 | profalbert | just looking on wowhead |
| 18:02.07 | Gnarfoz | I'm just going by wotlk.wowhead.com |
| 18:02.14 | Gnarfoz | and from that, wotlk just uses rank1 id |
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| 18:02.27 | Gnarfoz | can't go online right now, eu beta down :< |
| 18:02.32 | profalbert | 642 |
| 18:02.49 | Groktar | anyway, for my problem with text on buffs |
| 18:02.54 | Groktar | any way to fix that? |
| 18:03.05 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: read what I wrote about it? :) |
| 18:03.23 | Groktar | i couldn't tell whether you were referring to missing DS or my problem |
| 18:03.28 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: while you're at it: divine protection doesn't share its cooldown with DS anymore |
| 18:03.42 | Groktar | wow op |
| 18:04.05 | Gnarfoz | it's not OP, it's just a totally different spell than what it was |
| 18:04.17 | cubicool | Heal pallies need love |
| 18:04.20 | Gnarfoz | DP is now basically shield wall for pallies, with 50% instead of 75% dmg reduced |
| 18:04.22 | cubicool | NOT ret pallies though :) |
| 18:04.33 | Gnarfoz | heal pallies are overpowered right now |
| 18:04.36 | Gnarfoz | as are ret pallies:p |
| 18:05.04 | Gnarfoz | you can basically heal instances by just using holy shock and the instant holy lights you get from holy shock critting ;D |
| 18:05.10 | NivFreak | isn't DP the lower level version of DS in live? |
| 18:05.52 | CIA-45 | 03profalbert 07WotLK * r79410 10Parrot/Data/Cooldowns.lua: |
| 18:05.52 | CIA-45 | Parrot: |
| 18:05.52 | CIA-45 | - possible cooldown-fix (drycoded) |
| 18:06.50 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: it is, and that's why I said "it's a totally different spell from what it was" :P |
| 18:07.15 | Groktar | huh |
| 18:07.15 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: yea, I was just trying to remember |
| 18:07.26 | Groktar | focus castbar also seems broken in aguf |
| 18:07.35 | Groktar | looks for this earlier revision Gnarfoz mentioned |
| 18:07.41 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 18:07.49 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: what earlier rev? |
| 18:08.20 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> Groktar: OmniCC does that, too, and the reason is simple |
| 18:08.20 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> they hook the cooldown spiral model to know where to put their text |
| 18:08.27 | Gnarfoz | that's all that was about your cooldown stuff ;) |
| 18:08.32 | Groktar | o |
| 18:08.37 | Groktar | it's really, REALLY hard to tell |
| 18:08.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah because... one line is directed at you, and the other is about cooldown stuff ;p |
| 18:08.57 | NeoTron_ | eems like there's even more significant UI changes in 3.0 than 2.0 (other than the whole secure frames stuff in 2.0) |
| 18:09.56 | NeoTron_ | http://static.pyzam.com/img/funnypics/b/pyzamstalkerroof.jpg SFW |
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| 18:10.07 | Zeksie | apart from the change to the secure stuff... had a hard enough time getting my mouseover popup raid list working last time, now i have to redo it :| |
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| 18:12.57 | NeoTron_ | Zeksie: you in beta? |
| 18:13.09 | NeoTron_ | can't live without x-perl! |
| 18:13.38 | Zeksie | occassionaly. borrowed an account to make X-Perl work basically |
| 18:13.53 | NeoTron_ | did you sign up for wowi / curse dev keys? |
| 18:14.13 | Zeksie | i did. got a yes from curse so far, but heard nothing further |
| 18:14.26 | NeoTron_ | yeah |
| 18:14.31 | NeoTron_ | welcome to the club |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-45 | 03LordFarlander * r79411 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/LibLordFarlander-ItemList-2.0/LibLordFarlander-ItemList-2.0.lua: |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-45 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 18:14.31 | CIA-45 | - fix for settings a button to an inventory item |
| 18:14.40 | NeoTron_ | I'm in the first wowi batch |
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| 18:16.10 | Zeksie | x-perl's fine really. not a lot i had to fix. ZOMGBuffs is another story. cos they compeltely dumped and re-implemented a new system for any clever secure stuff.. :| |
| 18:16.16 | Zeksie | so that raid popup thing just does nothing atm |
| 18:17.31 | Zeksie | couldn't make much sense of their code yet, mostly cos I beleive the one template i need to use, is not finished yet, and is in fact defined twice in the same xml section under the same name. |
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| 18:19.03 | jaxdahl2 | so hey, i hear some addon devs got their keys? |
| 18:19.18 | Gagorian- | not yet from wowi at least |
| 18:19.41 | NeoTron_ | Zeksie: what about deathknights? |
| 18:20.11 | NeoTron_ | jaxdahl2: negative as of yet |
| 18:20.16 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79412 10XPerl/ (XPerl.toc localization.ruRU.lua): XPerl: update ruRU localization |
| 18:20.25 | NeoTron_ | some already had keys like Antiarc |
| 18:20.31 | Zeksie | looks fun.. although, Death & Decay just got a huge nerf (too much imo), and melee is broken so you regularly get 7.5k Obliterate crits at lvl 74.. |
| 18:20.39 | jaxdahl2 | Zeksie, mobs have 0 armor |
| 18:20.46 | Zeksie | yes, that would do it.. |
| 18:20.50 | CIA-45 | 03StingerSoft * r79413 10XPerl_Options/ (XPerl_Options.toc localization.ruRU.lua): XPerl_Options: update ruRU localization |
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| 18:21.17 | NeoTron_ | is that why ret pallies are OPยฟ |
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| 18:21.27 | jaxdahl2 | NeoTron, no |
| 18:21.28 | NeoTron_ | or are they even more OP now? :P |
| 18:21.28 | Zeksie | they were OP before the armor problem. |
| 18:21.36 | jaxdahl2 | they had a huge buff from Art of War |
| 18:21.39 | NivFreak | pally judgements were broken right? |
| 18:21.42 | jaxdahl2 | which has been removed in the last build |
| 18:21.42 | jaxdahl2 | yea |
| 18:21.43 | NivFreak | I was a video with a 14K crit |
| 18:21.51 | NivFreak | I can't imagine that was right ;) |
| 18:21.57 | Pneumatus | 14k, you've not seen the worst of it then |
| 18:22.04 | NivFreak | haha |
| 18:22.12 | Pneumatus | retadins were hitting 24k+ at 70 |
| 18:22.14 | jaxdahl2 | you know what deathknights have made me realize? that i cannot type DK using the left shift key and holding down D while hitting K |
| 18:22.19 | NivFreak | phyber: lol |
| 18:22.24 | NivFreak | Pneumatus: even |
| 18:22.26 | jaxdahl2 | i have to let go of D before i press K, or type it in lowercase |
| 18:22.30 | Zeksie | heh |
| 18:22.51 | NeoTron_ | so retadins are broken |
| 18:22.53 | jaxdahl2 | anyone have a keyboard that avoids this problem? |
| 18:23.04 | Pneumatus | i think they are back to useless in the current build |
| 18:23.09 | jaxdahl2 | Pneumatus, nope |
| 18:23.10 | NivFreak | jaxdahl2: I have no problme |
| 18:23.10 | Gnarfoz | basically any keyboard that's more expensive than 10$? :p |
| 18:23.11 | NivFreak | :P |
| 18:23.11 | Zeksie | i use a biological addon (a 2nd hand) |
| 18:23.13 | nevcairiel | left-shift down then press D and hold, press K and release? |
| 18:23.16 | nevcairiel | works fine here |
| 18:23.21 | NeoTron_ | works here too |
| 18:23.25 | Pneumatus | and here |
| 18:23.32 | Gnarfoz | it simply means he's got a cheap keyboard |
| 18:23.33 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:23.34 | jaxdahl2 | dell USB keyboard here.. microsoft PS2 keyboard at home |
| 18:23.37 | Pneumatus | G15 fwiw |
| 18:23.45 | nevcairiel | G15 too |
| 18:23.46 | jaxdahl2 | both have the problem |
| 18:23.57 | NivFreak | maybe some bad software? |
| 18:24.03 | jaxdahl2 | naw |
| 18:24.24 | Pneumatus | if i don't press k fast enough i get a whole row of capital ds tho |
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| 18:24.30 | nevcairiel | hehe ya |
| 18:24.50 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 18:25.00 | NivFreak | you're expecting to depress 3 keys |
| 18:25.02 | NeoTron_ | here's a good one |
| 18:25.03 | NivFreak | and get DK? |
| 18:25.08 | jaxdahl2 | yes |
| 18:25.10 | NivFreak | lol |
| 18:25.11 | NeoTron_ | if I hold shift, D and K down I can't type anything else |
| 18:25.15 | jaxdahl2 | #EDC exhibit the problem |
| 18:25.24 | NivFreak | why the hell would you expect that |
| 18:25.32 | NivFreak | you should have to let go of D first |
| 18:25.32 | nevcairiel | i can hold D just fine and type other stuff |
| 18:25.32 | NivFreak | :P |
| 18:25.35 | NeoTron_ | actually I can press some but not all keys |
| 18:25.37 | nevcairiel | except that i get more D's |
| 18:25.39 | Pneumatus | i can press many keys at the same time, and they are all outputted |
| 18:25.49 | NeoTron_ | I can hold shift D K and type WQ but not E :) |
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| 18:26.06 | Pneumatus | you need more fingers |
| 18:26.07 | NivFreak | well |
| 18:26.15 | Vonhinten | interesting, I have the shift+d, k problem |
| 18:26.16 | NivFreak | X doesn't seem to do that |
| 18:26.17 | NeoTron_ | fun stuff |
| 18:26.17 | Aii | if I hold Ctrl, and press W, I can type all sorts of stuff >.> |
| 18:26.21 | Gnarfoz | that's nothing new, reaaaally. |
| 18:26.21 | Aii | hides |
| 18:26.23 | NivFreak | but I don't expect to be able to ;P |
| 18:26.33 | Gnarfoz | just google for it, and you'll figure it out. you've got a cheap keyboard. :P |
| 18:26.47 | NivFreak | I take it back |
| 18:26.49 | Gnarfoz | they're using rows of keys that use the same switch ;) |
| 18:26.49 | NeoTron_ | it seems my keyboard has multiple sections that are mutually exclusive |
| 18:26.50 | NivFreak | it's screen that stops me |
| 18:26.57 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: exactly |
| 18:27.00 | NeoTron_ | what I don't understand though is why people would do it |
| 18:27.10 | NeoTron_ | like it's really hard for me to press D and then K without releasing D |
| 18:27.21 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: while typing its stupid, but consider games |
| 18:27.25 | NeoTron_ | have to make deliberate decision to not release D |
| 18:27.32 | jaxdahl2 | i type very fast, neotron |
| 18:27.37 | Pneumatus | my fingers are trained to only press one key at a time, with the exception of shift/ctrl/alt it seems |
| 18:27.41 | jaxdahl2 | so it's very noticeable for me |
| 18:27.48 | NeoTron_ | but this is my el cheapo HP keyboard |
| 18:27.51 | NeoTron_ | got a G15 at home |
| 18:28.06 | NivFreak | sooo |
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| 18:28.26 | NivFreak | Illidan flame tanks need to be crit immune? I would have figured that elemental melee attacks couldn't crit |
| 18:28.35 | nevcairiel | oh they do |
| 18:28.45 | NivFreak | man |
| 18:28.47 | NivFreak | my poor bears |
| 18:28.59 | nevcairiel | use some resilience |
| 18:29.02 | nevcairiel | its easier to get |
| 18:29.12 | jaxdahl2 | warlocks have tanked the flames |
| 18:29.24 | Aii | bears shouldnt really have a problem, what with resil.. |
| 18:29.36 | nevcairiel | any class could, in theory |
| 18:29.41 | nevcairiel | just has to put out enough aggro |
| 18:29.44 | NivFreak | no |
| 18:29.45 | NivFreak | it's fine |
| 18:29.53 | NivFreak | it's just that they finished thier SR gear |
| 18:30.00 | NivFreak | and now have to build FR gear |
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| 18:30.04 | Aii | lol |
| 18:30.14 | Aii | the life of an offtank |
| 18:30.16 | nevcairiel | get the guild bank to sponsor them? |
| 18:30.31 | Aii | did you not have at least one with FR gear for aneth? |
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| 18:30.55 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: with what? :P |
| 18:31.09 | nevcairiel | I dunno? |
| 18:31.14 | nevcairiel | guild tax? |
| 18:31.20 | NivFreak | to get what? :P |
| 18:31.25 | Groktar | heh, aguf also doesn't show pom when i put it on myself |
| 18:31.33 | NivFreak | Aii: my prot pally did infernals on antheron |
| 18:31.40 | Groktar | at least on the player frame |
| 18:31.41 | Groktar | does on the others |
| 18:31.55 | NivFreak | the main problem is, they are out of alternative gear to mix in with thier resist set |
| 18:31.56 | nevcairiel | Groktar: maybe you have some filtering on? |
| 18:32.04 | NivFreak | I guess we'll have to go farm them some t4 or t5 tokens |
| 18:32.15 | NivFreak | so they can have another of each |
| 18:32.16 | Groktar | mm maybe |
| 18:32.45 | NivFreak | my lazy bears still don't have S3 feral gloves |
| 18:32.59 | nevcairiel | our warrior used s2 shoulders for the resilience back then |
| 18:33.04 | Groktar | ya, that did it |
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| 18:56.24 | Stan_ | . |
| 18:56.43 | Ellipsis | no u |
| 18:56.47 | nevcairiel | ~slap Stan_ |
| 18:56.48 | purl | ACTION slaps Stan_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 18:56.53 | jaxdahl2 | anyone feel an earthquake in cali? |
| 18:56.57 | Stan_ | :( |
| 18:57.00 | jaxdahl2 | ~15 min ago |
| 18:57.10 | jaxdahl2 | 5.8 on the scale, around yorba linda |
| 18:57.13 | NeoTron_ | http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/ci14383980.htm |
| 18:57.29 | ZealotOnAStick | http://www.ibiblio.org/phil/fnordchan/020_deti.jpg |
| 18:57.53 | nevcairiel | a face hugger, run! |
| 18:58.08 | kappabuntu | jaxdahl yeah |
| 18:58.20 | kappabuntu | it was 5.8 from chino hills epicenter |
| 18:58.26 | kappabuntu | really felt that here in Upland |
| 18:58.29 | kappabuntu | phones are down :( |
| 18:58.37 | jaxdahl2 | says it was felt in las vegas |
| 18:59.03 | kappabuntu | i grabbed the crt here at work hahaha |
| 18:59.06 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i'm missing out on some fun with my totally no-earthquake country here =P |
| 18:59.11 | kappabuntu | worried it was going to fall off the desk |
| 18:59.59 | Ellipsis | aww, now I miss cali |
| 19:00.55 | Stan_ | ~lart Ellipsis |
| 19:00.55 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Ellipsis, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 19:01.02 | Stan_ | lol good one |
| 19:01.07 | Ellipsis | O.O |
| 19:01.13 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:01.13 | kappabuntu | you left ? |
| 19:01.20 | Ellipsis | I uh... |
| 19:01.22 | Dashkal | rofl |
| 19:01.25 | Ellipsis | I'm not really into that? x.x |
| 19:01.46 | kappabuntu | move to seattle or something? |
| 19:01.51 | kappabuntu | for the java |
| 19:02.01 | Ellipsis | close enough :P |
| 19:02.02 | NeoTron_ | I just download my java |
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| 19:02.09 | Ellipsis | sadly I'm drinking less coffee now than I did before |
| 19:02.14 | Ellipsis | makes a mental note to get a coffeemaker |
| 19:02.19 | NeoTron_ | but then again maybe it's because I live in the greater Seattle area? |
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| 19:02.52 | CIA-45 | Babble-2.2: |
| 19:02.52 | CIA-45 | - update ruRU localization |
| 19:02.56 | Dashkal | Gah, far too close for comfort, NeoTron... |
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| 19:03.11 | Ellipsis | looks around nervously |
| 19:03.21 | Ellipsis | you guys aren't, like, going to stalk me...are you? |
| 19:03.43 | kappabuntu | I thought you liked stalkers |
| 19:03.44 | Groktar | what's quartz -> mirror? |
| 19:03.53 | kappabuntu | plus... people who stay inside are hard to stalk |
| 19:03.53 | Ellipsis | Groktar: mirror bar, i.e. breath bar and such |
| 19:03.58 | Groktar | ahh |
| 19:03.58 | Dashkal | You're south of the border. Sorry to disappoint but no, no I won't stalk :p |
| 19:04.01 | Groktar | i should turn that off |
| 19:04.03 | Ellipsis | kappabuntu: you have a point :P |
| 19:04.06 | kappabuntu | not that I would know |
| 19:04.07 | kappabuntu | >__> |
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| 19:04.16 | Groktar | i always drown when i use the quartz breath bar |
| 19:06.22 | Groktar | mm |
| 19:06.22 | Groktar | would be nice if i could turn on spell target but turn off spell name |
| 19:07.04 | Groktar | pokes around in teh code |
| 19:07.08 | Ellipsis | o.O; |
| 19:07.24 | Groktar | all i have to do is break spell names |
| 19:07.29 | Groktar | and it should work how i want |
| 19:07.32 | Groktar | is good at the breaking |
| 19:07.52 | NeoTron_ | Dashkal: am I that scary? |
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| 19:08.19 | Ellipsis | yes |
| 19:08.20 | Ellipsis | yes you are |
| 19:08.34 | NeoTron_ | ok. cool. |
| 19:08.36 | NeoTron_ | roar |
| 19:09.17 | Ellipsis | whimpers |
| 19:09.39 | Dashkal | NeoTron_: Terrifying :p |
| 19:09.58 | Groktar | becomes mystified |
| 19:10.02 | Dashkal | And I'm only 2-3 hours away depending on where in the seattle area you are :p |
| 19:11.24 | NeoTron_ | about 25 miles north of it |
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| 19:11.53 | Dashkal | 2 |
| 19:12.05 | Dashkal | I'm in Metro Vancouver |
| 19:14.06 | Groktar | yay |
| 19:14.20 | Groktar | got it working how i wanted |
| 19:14.29 | Dashkal | cheers |
| 19:14.29 | Groktar | tho i don't think it would take much to do it properly |
| 19:14.47 | Groktar | i just found the line where it appended spell name and target |
| 19:14.51 | Groktar | and removed the name |
| 19:14.51 | Groktar | hehe |
| 19:15.10 | Ellipsis | grats Groktar |
| 19:15.25 | Ellipsis | you should fix all my little interface annoyances for me |
| 19:15.32 | Ellipsis | because I'm too lazy :< |
| 19:17.09 | jaxdahl2 | it's fun to see blizzard's internal stuff sneak through when they add new stuff |
| 19:17.36 | jaxdahl2 | like the new pet stuff, i added Miniwing noncombat pet, and when i summon it the casting bar says 'Summon Lavender Parrot' |
| 19:18.46 | NeoTron_ | I am surprised no lock in the beta forum has made a note on how the number of debuff slots will become a major issue |
| 19:18.58 | kappabuntu | *sigh* |
| 19:19.02 | NeoTron_ | not only with DK's but more debuffs overall - like every lock using dots for example |
| 19:19.18 | kappabuntu | getting rid of the warlock class would help tons of balancing issues |
| 19:20.12 | selckin | anyone know a equip mod that can store/retieve sets from you bank AND remember there slots it grabbed it from, and put them back in the same ones? |
| 19:20.37 | NeoTron_ | kappabuntu: as would getting rid of retarded people who things "getting rid of a class" is a good idea for balancing purposes |
| 19:20.47 | selckin | closetgnome remember the slots in my bag, but nt in the bank |
| 19:21.20 | jaxdahl2 | selckin, never used a bag mod? |
| 19:23.13 | kappabuntu | NeoTron_ trolled, mission accomplished |
| 19:23.33 | Ellipsis | gives kappabuntu a cookie |
| 19:24.00 | kappabuntu | om nom nom |
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| 19:29.49 | CIA-45 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 19:29.49 | CIA-45 | - fix for settings a button to an inventory item |
| 19:31.24 | NeoTron_ | kappabuntu: WoW forums that way --> |
| 19:34.08 | Diao | cncfanatics: pong |
| 19:36.14 | jaxdahl2 | weird.. directv having PPV events for blizzcon? |
| 19:36.55 | kappabuntu | NeoTron_: my account is frozen until october :> |
| 19:37.24 | NeoTron_ | is not surprised. |
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| 19:37.50 | jaxdahl2 | http://pasadena.wr.usgs.gov/shake/STORE/X14383980/14383980_graph.gif |
| 19:37.59 | jaxdahl2 | it was felt well over 200km away |
| 19:38.37 | NeoTron_ | man the number of gem cuts in wotlk is staggering |
| 19:44.58 | jaxdahl2 | is it? |
| 19:45.06 | jaxdahl2 | there are 6 base epic gems in TBC |
| 19:45.16 | jaxdahl2 | it appears there are 6 as well in wotlk |
| 19:45.43 | jaxdahl2 | flawless ametrine, dreadsone, cardinal ruby, dragon's eye, king's amber, eye of zul |
| 19:45.43 | Aii | well that was fun... just had a 5.4 earthquake centered ~10mi away from here o.o |
| 19:45.47 | jaxdahl2 | deadstone* |
| 19:45.55 | jaxdahl2 | aii, just? like an hour ago? |
| 19:46.07 | Aii | just in a relative sense, yes :P |
| 19:46.20 | nevcairiel | so we know that Aii lives somewhere near LA |
| 19:46.24 | jaxdahl2 | and it was a 5.8 |
| 19:47.17 | jaxdahl2 | did you feel the 3.8s about 9 minutes later? |
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| 19:48.01 | Aii | jaxdahl2: USGS says 5.4: http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/eqinthenews/2008/ci14383980/ |
| 19:48.09 | Arrowmaster | you know like a month ago we had two 2.x ones here and i was awake and didnt feel a thing but other people said they were woken up by them (was like 5-6 am) |
| 19:48.51 | Diao | 2.x is like |
| 19:48.54 | Diao | a minor tremor |
| 19:48.55 | Diao | o_O |
| 19:48.59 | Aii | nevcairiel: You could know much more precisely than that just by looking at my host :P |
| 19:49.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah and i dont think there had been anything felt here in many many years |
| 19:50.38 | nevcairiel | Aii: i r lazy =( |
| 19:50.54 | nevcairiel | would require me to figure out wtf hmc.edu is |
| 19:51.00 | jaxdahl2 | harvey mudd college |
| 19:51.23 | nevcairiel | (should i know that?) |
| 19:51.31 | jaxdahl2 | he would appear to be on a shell server of the computer science dept named after the venerable donald knuth |
| 19:51.46 | Aii | *she |
| 19:51.49 | Ellipsis | sighs |
| 19:51.53 | nevcairiel | I knew that, at least |
| 19:52.07 | Ellipsis | I should probably not want to kill Aii and take her place, should I? |
| 19:52.14 | Aii | :o |
| 19:52.17 | jaxdahl2 | i assume everyone is a he unless i have photographic proof |
| 19:52.21 | nevcairiel | why would you want to? |
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| 19:52.36 | Diao | photographs can be faked! |
| 19:52.45 | jaxdahl2 | besides the point! |
| 19:52.48 | Aii | jaxdahl2: you won't mind if I refer to you with feminine pronouns then, will you? |
| 19:52.49 | nevcairiel | everything can be faked on the interwebz |
| 19:53.01 | jaxdahl2 | why do you think i would mind? |
| 19:53.09 | jaxdahl2 | you can assume what you like |
| 19:53.18 | Ellipsis | stares inappropriately at jaxdahl's chest |
| 19:53.23 | Ellipsis | mmm...boobs... |
| 19:53.33 | nevcairiel | man-boobs! |
| 19:53.37 | kappabuntu | don't want |
| 19:54.20 | NeoTron_ | jaxdahl2: there are more cuts though |
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| 19:54.42 | Hesselgrinch | Hello. ive run into a problem with pitbull |
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| 19:54.56 | Aii | points at ckknight |
| 19:54.56 | NeoTron_ | jaxdahl2: there are, for example, 6 talasite cuts. The wotlk equivalent has 19 cuts |
| 19:55.02 | Hesselgrinch | when I rightclick a frame I get the pitbull options up. I want the other drop down menus to come |
| 19:55.11 | Hesselgrinch | so I can leave party etc by rightclicking my frame |
| 19:55.12 | ckknight | are you holding a modifier key? |
| 19:55.13 | Ellipsis | don't hold shift/ctrl/alt down |
| 19:55.19 | Hesselgrinch | I dont! |
| 19:55.27 | Ellipsis | then the config doesn't come up |
| 19:55.27 | Ellipsis | :) |
| 19:55.38 | Hesselgrinch | ah maybe a button is stuck |
| 19:55.49 | Hesselgrinch | now it worked after i hammerd some on alt,shift etc |
| 19:55.50 | Hesselgrinch | ty |
| 19:55.54 | ckknight | hehe |
| 19:56.06 | jaxdahl2 | NeoTron, i'm having a hard time determining an accurate count on wowhead, since there are a bunch of duplicated names, but different sources for gems |
| 19:56.29 | Aii | pebkcaf! problem exists between keyboard cable and fingers |
| 19:56.35 | profalbert | omg... we are doing maggy, and there's a GM right in front of us |
| 19:57.07 | NeoTron_ | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=36933#reagent-for:0+1+2 |
| 19:57.14 | Pkekyo| | serialplonks Ellipsis. Hard. From the side. |
| 19:57.14 | NeoTron_ | 19 "talasite" equivalents |
| 19:57.14 | Aii | ...i know ive been playing AB too much when my first though is how you fit a gold mine into mag's lair |
| 19:57.26 | Ellipsis | wakes up with a black eye and a sore bottom |
| 19:57.32 | Ellipsis | ooh...what happened last night? |
| 19:57.57 | NeoTron_ | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=36930#reagent-for - 22 "noble topaz" vs 7 |
| 19:58.10 | profalbert | he just made gnomes out of all of us |
| 19:58.11 | NeoTron_ | theer are more because they are adding things like expertise and armor penetration |
| 19:58.18 | NeoTron_ | not to mention things like haste + spirit |
| 19:58.21 | jaxdahl2 | hmm yeah |
| 19:58.38 | NeoTron_ | removing "spell dmg" vs "healing" but the whole is larger :) |
| 19:58.50 | NeoTron_ | so I hope badly that all of them aren't random drops of world mobs |
| 19:59.45 | Aii | oh dear god yes |
| 20:00.16 | NeoTron_ | of course in the end many won't ever be used |
| 20:00.28 | jaxdahl2 | they never did add the +12 stat gems |
| 20:01.05 | jaxdahl2 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33132 like that |
| 20:01.15 | Pneumatus | woo, first kill on bloodboil :> |
| 20:01.48 | Aii | grats |
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| 20:04.57 | Kolie | pokes you if you use a non english install of windows. |
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| 20:08.21 | Ozguli | EEE |
| 20:08.29 | Ozguli | Don't blame me, it was an OEM |
| 20:08.45 | Ozguli | (using a leasing laptop atm, because it's free for me) |
| 20:10.46 | Kolie | what not english is it |
| 20:10.57 | NivFreak | profalbert: is this on live? |
| 20:12.33 | Ellipsis | World of Warcraft Subscription Successfully Cancelled |
| 20:12.35 | Ellipsis | :x |
| 20:13.02 | Aii | Aw Ellipsis, you made the peon cry |
| 20:13.19 | sylvanaar | that's his job |
| 20:13.55 | Ellipsis | I know, it made me sad |
| 20:14.03 | sylvanaar | cry, mine gold, chop wood |
| 20:14.08 | Ellipsis | I almost clicked "no" because of those little tears rolling down his cute green face |
| 20:14.54 | steev | is there a howto somewhere for using quickhealth? |
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| 20:15.13 | hypetech | anybody know any sunwell horde guilds that raid around noon EST? >.> <.< |
| 20:15.27 | hypetech | I'm U. |
| 20:15.31 | hypetech | U.S. |
| 20:15.36 | hypetech | wish I could xfer to EU :9 |
| 20:15.38 | hypetech | :( * |
| 20:15.47 | Diao | steev: what howto do you need |
| 20:15.51 | Diao | just install and it works automatically |
| 20:16.09 | Aii | or more specifically, what are you trying to use it with |
| 20:16.35 | steev | Diao: only if the addon is made to use it - i want to modify this addon to use it |
| 20:16.37 | Aii | QuickHealth, unlike the original Instant Health Updates, is designed as a library so it's friendlier to addons |
| 20:16.46 | Diao | oh |
| 20:16.47 | Aii | steev: see if cncfanatics is around |
| 20:16.51 | Diao | which addon? |
| 20:16.56 | Aii | or look at the plugins for Pitbull etc |
| 20:17.00 | Aii | to see how they do it |
| 20:17.05 | Diao | you need to tell the frame to use the quickhealth unit_health update |
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| 20:17.10 | steev | spartanui (which is sadly annoying in how much it does as one addon rather than split up) |
| 20:17.11 | Diao | instead of the default blizz one |
| 20:17.12 | Aii | I'm pretty sure it's just a matter of registering frames to receive the events |
| 20:17.25 | Diao | the author made his/her own ufs for it? |
| 20:17.34 | steev | yeah |
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| 20:18.26 | steev | some of it is cool, some of it is *extremely* annoying |
| 20:18.35 | steev | specially how non-configurable it is |
| 20:19.01 | steev | but... its perty |
| 20:19.13 | Diao | lol |
| 20:19.17 | Diao | i never liked compilations |
| 20:19.44 | steev | its not really a compilation... its... a huge fucking addon |
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| 20:19.54 | Daede | hihi |
| 20:20.13 | Aii | steev: I never really liked all-in-one stuff |
| 20:20.14 | Daede | im brand new to ace programming, so if i start to get annoying, just tell me to stfu |
| 20:20.25 | Aii | Too attached to modular addons |
| 20:20.37 | steev | Aii: i agree |
| 20:20.39 | Aii | because all-in-ones never quite manage to do everything the way I like it |
| 20:21.07 | steev | http://clandestinecircle.guildlaunch.com/guild/library/gallery/17119/wowscrnshot_072208_1451292340.jpg |
| 20:21.07 | Daede | that being said, how would i check the name of someone who whispered me against my guild and friends lists? |
| 20:21.20 | steev | thats a semi-screenshot - i've modified it a bit |
| 20:21.36 | steev | removed some of his additionals and added in the other stuff i like |
| 20:22.07 | steev | added in the elkbuffbars and whatnot cuz those buffs just suck (plus they don't show debuffs) |
| 20:22.48 | steev | but, its health updates suck |
| 20:23.31 | Daede | anyone? |
| 20:23.49 | Aii | steev: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/PitBull_QuickHealth/PitBull_QuickHealth.lua |
| 20:23.57 | sylvanaar | um, for what purpose |
| 20:24.14 | Daede | me? |
| 20:24.19 | sylvanaar | yes sorry |
| 20:24.44 | Daede | i want to check if someone who whispered me was either on my friends list or in my guild |
| 20:24.48 | sylvanaar | why |
| 20:24.55 | steev | Aii: thanks |
| 20:24.56 | Daede | why does that matter? |
| 20:25.02 | Daede | because I want to. |
| 20:25.05 | steev | well, im wanted to run heroic ramps |
| 20:25.14 | sylvanaar | because that will decide which answer i give you |
| 20:25.15 | steev | so, time to go, its gonna have to pause |
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| 20:25.37 | Daede | nvm, ill look it up, i guess |
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| 20:26.06 | jaxdahl2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetGuildInfo |
| 20:26.42 | Daede | thanks :) |
| 20:26.59 | jaxdahl2 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API#Friend_Functions bit more complex |
| 20:27.51 | Daede | now would there happen to be ace2 functions like IsFriend() or IsGuild() or something to that effect? I'm havign a hard time locating a resource that tells me what's actually IN the ace2/3 libs.. |
| 20:28.17 | sylvanaar | there are wow api's like that |
| 20:28.41 | jaxdahl2 | there is UnitIsFriend, but that doesn't do what you want |
| 20:30.45 | Aii | If you want to iterate through friends, you'll need to ShowFriends() (to make sure you have the most up-to-date list), then GetNumFriends (for a list length), and then GetFriendInfo for each index of the list, most likely |
| 20:30.59 | Daede | so the only thing i could really do is regularly update a local list of friends and do an array wide comparison? |
| 20:31.18 | Daede | that shouldnt be too hard |
| 20:31.28 | jaxdahl2 | do perl-style hashes exist in lua? |
| 20:31.43 | Daede | iunno im brand new to it |
| 20:31.45 | EthanCentaurai | Daede: there are http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibFriends-1.0/LibFriends-1.0/ and http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibGuild-1.0/LibGuild-1.0/ if you can source the name out of the whisper you could use these libraries to check if the player is in your guild/buddy list |
| 20:32.01 | Daede | thanks |
| 20:32.24 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 20:32.24 | purl | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, Vulcanus, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 20:32.58 | sylvanaar | im not sure what you would need a friends library for |
| 20:33.18 | Daede | something im working on to give myself some peace :) |
| 20:34.03 | sylvanaar | if you want a spam addon that only accepts guild/friend tells there are plenty of the already |
| 20:34.56 | sylvanaar | if you are trying to hilight or beep, or something there are addons which do that too |
| 20:35.23 | Daede | i havent seen any that i like.. im trying to make one that's kinda all-encompassing. guild invites/trades/whispers/party invites, all able to be toggled independantly with a master toggle for the whole mess.. fubar or minimap switchable |
| 20:35.59 | sylvanaar | thats fine - but you can learn from them |
| 20:36.06 | Daede | good idea :) |
| 20:36.27 | cncfanatics | steev: you needed me ? |
| 20:36.38 | Daede | like i said im new to lua, but im not new to coding. once i find a good resource of information, ill catch on pretty quick |
| 20:36.42 | Daede | thanks for the help :) |
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| 20:41.30 | sylvanaar | well, the ace svn has almost 2000 addons on it - so there are plenty of examples |
| 20:47.35 | ZealotOnAStick | I think he missed your message. |
| 20:47.43 | ZealotOnAStick | I was going to point him to pil and that website . . . |
| 20:47.48 | ZealotOnAStick | but, he's gone. |
| 20:48.40 | EthanCentaurai | attempts to write QuickHealth-1.0 into DogTag-Unit-3.0 but isn't sure if he's done it properly... |
| 20:51.51 | sylvanaar | he wanted to play 20 questions |
| 20:52.55 | sylvanaar | i know nothing about lua, but i know that the answer to my question should need no context |
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| 20:57.56 | ZealotOnAStick | wait, what was your question? |
| 20:59.00 | ZealotOnAStick | "Free Video Nude Anjelina Jolie" |
| 20:59.02 | ZealotOnAStick | If only. |
| 20:59.28 | Vonhinten | there's several good breast shots of jolie |
| 20:59.40 | [dRaCo] | dunno if she's that good lookin' right now. |
| 20:59.42 | Vonhinten | hackers, gia, pushing tin |
| 20:59.47 | Yssaril | whats the website with the framexml data again? |
| 20:59.50 | ZealotOnAStick | yes, but this isn't what the spam e-mail intimates. |
| 21:00.02 | ZealotOnAStick | good shot of her back and ass in Wanted. |
| 21:00.07 | ZealotOnAStick | for like a second and a half. |
| 21:00.14 | profalbert | ~framexml |
| 21:00.15 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 21:00.32 | Vonhinten | there's also some older lesbo scene in a movie I can't remember |
| 21:00.32 | Yssaril | ahh thanks profalbert i forgot the s at the end |
| 21:00.45 | kappabuntu | o_o relevant to my interests |
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| 21:02.47 | EthanCentaurai | hmm so far I have http://ace.pastey.net/92705 but something is causing taint in SecureStateDriverManager_UpdateUnitWatch... |
| 21:04.16 | ckknight | aw, can't connect to the WotLK realms |
| 21:05.32 | yoshimo | i posted an alarlog and hope the announces wont be that crazy next time :) |
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| 21:07.24 | EthanCentaurai | gives up and goes to bed |
| 21:11.06 | sb | ckknight: you got your key? :p |
| 21:11.17 | ckknight | can't connect :-( |
| 21:11.21 | ckknight | I got a key from Hubert |
| 21:11.28 | ckknight | err, netcurse_ |
| 21:12.15 | nevcairiel | US realms down too? |
| 21:12.23 | nevcairiel | EU is broken =( |
| 21:12.40 | ramoz | again? |
| 21:12.42 | ramoz | geezx |
| 21:12.44 | Kuosi | yeps eu logins went boom |
| 21:12.48 | ReAn | nevcairiel: US-Live Realms are working |
| 21:12.58 | Yssaril | didn't they have an earthquake down there? |
| 21:13.06 | nevcairiel | We're talking beta ;) |
| 21:13.06 | sb | hmpf, i have no idea whats wrong with those login servers |
| 21:13.09 | Kuosi | been bashing my head to wall in 3v3 arena |
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| 21:13.19 | nevcairiel | who hosts servers in cali |
| 21:13.21 | Kuosi | 2197, 2193, 2199 |
| 21:13.21 | nevcairiel | i mean comeone |
| 21:13.26 | Kuosi | just cant fin the fucking last game :( |
| 21:13.29 | Shirik | lol nevcairiel |
| 21:13.31 | Kuosi | *win |
| 21:14.24 | Civrock | Northrend World server has been down for a while. |
| 21:14.32 | netcurse_ | if you traded your WWI key for a US key, the european key still works FYI |
| 21:14.56 | Harshmage | Northrend flaps a lot...but that's nothing new in a beta environment |
| 21:15.09 | Civrock | It's been worse since the earthquake. |
| 21:15.17 | ReAn | Harshmage: Flaps? |
| 21:15.18 | Hjalte | Anyone else stuck on authenticating on EU servers? |
| 21:15.28 | yoshimo | yes my whole guild |
| 21:15.57 | Harshmage | Flap. Like hitting the on-off switch on your lights. On again, off again. |
| 21:16.30 | profalbert | hjalte: only beta-servers |
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| 21:17.28 | yoshimo | the life server is stuck as well |
| 21:17.45 | profalbert | hmm... hope I don't disc |
| 21:18.13 | CIA-45 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * rd0ea046 10/ TourGuide_Neutral/70_SSO_Dailies.lua : Merge branch 'master' of git://github.com/Zariel/tourguide.git (+9 more commits...) |
| 21:18.16 | sb | netcurse_: so you have 2 keys with WWI? :o |
| 21:18.31 | netcurse_ | yeah |
| 21:19.10 | yoshimo | they should give out the cursekeys :D |
| 21:19.35 | ckknight | I can't log in, and it pains me |
| 21:19.54 | Hjalte | ckknight: Aren't you on the US servers? |
| 21:19.58 | ckknight | yea |
| 21:20.06 | ckknight | can't log in to WotLK |
| 21:20.10 | ckknight | keeps giving Unable to Connect |
| 21:22.13 | Dashkal | bah, bah I say. *hammers his gmail refresh button* |
| 21:22.14 | Harshmage | well, they're still having the shakes out there... Not as bad as it was a couple hours ago |
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| 21:22.32 | Harshmage | http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/118-34.html |
| 21:23.06 | sb | mhh - still hoping for key on my bday :p |
| 21:23.12 | sb | that would be some nice present ;) |
| 21:23.47 | ReAn | sb: when's your b-day? |
| 21:23.53 | sb | 31.! :p |
| 21:24.16 | sb | so in 1d + ~1h here ;) |
| 21:24.49 | ReAn | why do you expect it on your bday? |
| 21:25.06 | sb | i dont expect it, but it would be nice :) |
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| 21:25.30 | ReAn | if you were part of the WoWI give-away, you prolly should expect it next weekend |
| 21:25.39 | ulic | hopes for one on sb's birthday also. |
| 21:25.48 | sb | hehe |
| 21:26.37 | ckknight | I hope the server techs are okay at the blizz center |
| 21:26.53 | ckknight | so that they can get things running again |
| 21:27.38 | Kolie | lol 5.8 is nothing :P |
| 21:27.42 | Kolie | thats a typical tuesday in CA |
| 21:29.17 | sylvanaar | when did you get your key |
| 21:29.25 | sylvanaar | you didnt have it earlier |
| 21:32.34 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: how much damages does your affliction lock lose going from destro -> affliction |
| 21:32.46 | Gagorian- | Over 9000 |
| 21:33.09 | NivFreak | good for you |
| 21:33.19 | NeoTron_ | NivFreak: bit hard to say |
| 21:33.24 | NeoTron_ | since they don't get the same group |
| 21:33.30 | NeoTron_ | but I'd say 400-800 dps |
| 21:33.32 | NivFreak | NeoTron_: he's pushing ~1800dps on brut? |
| 21:35.15 | cncfanatics | yay |
| 21:35.18 | cncfanatics | I haz me ubrs key :p |
| 21:35.21 | cncfanatics | up to the beast now |
| 21:38.21 | yoshimo | the second boss needs 3 people to summon him, remember that |
| 21:38.26 | Pneumatus | i think my guilds raid on orgrimmar crashed the server :< |
| 21:40.07 | yoshimo | how many people?^^ |
| 21:41.49 | Pneumatus | only like 30 |
| 21:41.52 | harldephin | why does WAU not regonize the newest version of autoLFG ? |
| 21:42.02 | Aii | how recent is it |
| 21:42.13 | Aii | and what version does files.wowace.com list |
| 21:42.34 | harldephin | it's 8 days old |
| 21:42.46 | harldephin | that's the version files. lists |
| 21:43.04 | Aii | and define "doesn |
| 21:43.05 | Pneumatus | but the realm crashed, and we got rolled back to the zepplin in tristfal |
| 21:43.08 | Aii | *Doesn't recognized |
| 21:43.13 | Aii | -ed |
| 21:43.24 | Aii | does the addon not show up in the list at all |
| 21:43.29 | Aii | or does it show up with an older version |
| 21:43.31 | harldephin | WAU lists a version that's stone age old.. |
| 21:43.51 | Aii | which version? |
| 21:43.55 | harldephin | that's why i didn't say that it doesn't recognize it at all.. |
| 21:44.49 | ccKep | wtf |
| 21:44.52 | harldephin | it says "?54879?" in the version/revision column and last changed date was >180 days ago |
| 21:44.55 | ccKep | I just took one day off raiding |
| 21:45.02 | ccKep | and my guild smashes m'uru |
| 21:45.07 | ccKep | how's that any fair -.- |
| 21:45.47 | Aii | 54879 is the latest that files.wowace lists, harldephin |
| 21:45.48 | profalbert | they smashed him because you weren't there |
| 21:46.00 | Aii | autoLFG1 week agoChat/CommunicationJoins LFG-ChannelKlimax54879 |
| 21:46.30 | ccKep | euro loginservers shitty |
| 21:46.34 | ccKep | cant get online wtf |
| 21:46.43 | Kolie | blame the quake. |
| 21:47.04 | Aii | blames canada. |
| 21:47.14 | harldephin | dude. i didn't say that's incorrect. that's because there is more than one revision marked as 54879 .. whatever it's called. and the oldest is from november 2007, the newest from july 21 2008 |
| 21:47.15 | Pneumatus | woo, Coldarra is back |
| 21:47.42 | Pneumatus | we killed the undercity bosses :> |
| 21:47.57 | Aii | erm |
| 21:48.04 | Aii | how is there more than one revision marked as 54879 |
| 21:48.26 | Aii | o.0 |
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| 21:48.59 | harldephin | 54879.1 through 54879.nothing which is the same as autoLFG.zip and that's what WAU should list |
| 21:49.44 | harldephin | 54879.9 respectively |
| 21:49.46 | vithos | those are the with-externals zips, the number after the . is lib updates |
| 21:50.09 | Aii | yeah...the code for the addon is still the same, just different lib versions |
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| 21:50.44 | Aii | the actual addon hasn't changed since 15 Nov 2007 |
| 21:51.18 | Aii | harldephin: do you have WAU set to update with externals or without externals |
| 21:51.31 | harldephin | i tried both and it's both ways the same |
| 21:51.44 | harldephin | usually i update without externals |
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| 21:52.33 | Aii | so you have an Ace2 folder in Interface\Addons? |
| 21:53.19 | harldephin | i know pretty well what updating with or without externals means.. yes, i do have an ace2 folder.. lol |
| 21:53.21 | ccKep | wonder what a kill that was... my guilds only been in p2 twice so far (and both were >80% wipes) |
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| 21:53.31 | ccKep | Entropius - Active presence : 1'33'' (1 % of raid) << oO |
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| 21:54.53 | Aii | So what exactly is your issue again? if the proper main revision number is listed |
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| 21:58.01 | harldephin | it's alright. it's all green and cuddly.. |
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| 22:02.51 | dieck | hi there. how much honor does a "standard" alterac valley earn? 20-25min win/loose? how much on weekends? |
| 22:03.14 | Pneumatus | the Ace2 issue on beta is defiantly that IsAddOnLoaded(i) in AceAddon.prototype.init() is returning false for every addon |
| 22:04.26 | Pneumatus | sorry, its returning nil, not false |
| 22:05.37 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: they changed that function around a bit, right? |
| 22:06.01 | Gnarfoz | or rather "fixed" it because it was returning true for LoD addons that were not yet loaded |
| 22:06.56 | Pneumatus | i don't recall reading anything about IsAddonLoaded() in the 3.0 update thread |
| 22:07.23 | Arrowmaster | a lot of stuff hasnt been mentioned in the 3.0 thread |
| 22:09.20 | Pneumatus | well, once im in game I can /dump IsAddonLoaded(2) and it returns 1 |
| 22:09.34 | Pneumatus | so at the moment in time that init() is called, the addons arent registered as loaded |
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| 22:09.57 | Pneumatus | it returns nil if the addon isnt loaded, and 1 if it is |
| 22:13.28 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder |
| 22:13.56 | Pneumatus | that function first registers for ADDON_LOADED, then goes and checks if each addon is loaded... surely the check should be when ADDON_LOADED is fired |
| 22:14.11 | Pneumatus | not immediatly after registering for the event |
| 22:16.01 | Arrowmaster | depends on what it was ment to do |
| 22:16.27 | Arrowmaster | plus theres been talk of not even attempting to fix Ace2 for WotLK |
| 22:16.37 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:16.54 | NivFreak | cleanup the addon base my deprecating the API? |
| 22:16.54 | NivFreak | win |
| 22:17.08 | Arrowmaster | its already deprecated |
| 22:17.17 | NivFreak | I'm aware |
| 22:17.29 | NivFreak | how many addons still use Ace2 in SVN? :P |
| 22:17.35 | Arrowmaster | a lot |
| 22:17.42 | NivFreak | like 80%+? :P |
| 22:17.45 | Arrowmaster | and how many of those are actively developed |
| 22:17.53 | NivFreak | which was my next point |
| 22:17.54 | Arrowmaster | not many |
| 22:17.59 | NivFreak | but they still work :) |
| 22:18.30 | Pneumatus | exactly |
| 22:18.40 | Arrowmaster | they still work in TBC |
| 22:19.09 | Pneumatus | by not updating Ace2, it will mean people will just go over to curse/wowi and pick new addons |
| 22:19.16 | Pneumatus | especially with WAU dying etc |
| 22:19.35 | Arrowmaster | isnt that the point? |
| 22:19.51 | Funkeh` | ffs |
| 22:19.54 | Funkeh` | lockpicking 281 |
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| 22:20.00 | Funkeh` | going around azshara is a nightmare |
| 22:20.08 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: BRD |
| 22:20.29 | Funkeh` | where in brd? |
| 22:20.29 | fewyn | azshara is a nightmare period Funkeh` |
| 22:20.31 | Arrowmaster | or do you need 285 to start that? |
| 22:20.35 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember |
| 22:20.47 | Funkeh` | it's not even on wowwiki |
| 22:21.01 | NivFreak | blackrock depths |
| 22:21.03 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: theres 3 doors and a giant shadowforge lock you can pick |
| 22:21.12 | Arrowmaster | plus some prison cells |
| 22:21.31 | Pneumatus | AceAddon:ADDON_LOADED(name) calls on every fire of ADDON_LOADED, right? |
| 22:21.56 | Arrowmaster | probably |
| 22:23.01 | Pneumatus | i think I understand what AceAddon is doing now, and if anything the changes by blizz _should_ result in less code |
| 22:23.25 | Pneumatus | the init() function used to make a list of all addons that are 'loaded' (when they arent loaded) |
| 22:23.53 | Pneumatus | possibly because ADDON_LOADED was actually fired for LoD/Disabled addons? |
| 22:24.01 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:24.13 | Arrowmaster | its only fired when the addon loads |
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| 22:25.05 | Pneumatus | well init() checked every addon if it was enabled, and if IsAddOnLoaded() returned 1, it would add that addon to a list of "possibleNames" |
| 22:25.26 | Arrowmaster | when is init() called? |
| 22:25.28 | Pneumatus | then every time ADDON_LOADED is fired, the current addon is checked against that list, and put into an initAddon or skipAddon list |
| 22:26.04 | Pneumatus | when AceOO fires it |
| 22:27.38 | Pneumatus | AceOO is more than I can handle though, but at the point in time when init() is fired, IsAddOnLoaded() will return nil for every addon, regardless of if it's going to be loaded or not |
| 22:28.05 | Arrowmaster | are you sure its every addon? |
| 22:28.13 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 22:28.16 | Arrowmaster | i think i know |
| 22:29.00 | Arrowmaster | perty sure they changed IsAddOnLoaded() to return 1 instead of nil when the ADDON_LOADED is fired instead of when the ToC is first read |
| 22:29.32 | Arrowmaster | before it would return 1 if the toc had been read |
| 22:30.02 | Arrowmaster | but if Ace2 is loading as the first addon then no ADDON_LOADED events have fired yet so it will return nil for everything |
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| 22:31.01 | Arrowmaster | i think Ace2 might have been using that behavior as part of its guessing of which addon is currently being processed |
| 22:33.08 | Pneumatus | that could make sense |
| 22:33.13 | Pneumatus | except im running embedded |
| 22:33.38 | Pneumatus | which categorically means that the addon's TOC _must_ have been read |
| 22:33.45 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 22:33.50 | Arrowmaster | but you are on beta right |
| 22:33.51 | Pneumatus | ive got 1 addon loading, with embedded Ace2 |
| 22:33.55 | Pneumatus | uhuh |
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| 22:34.51 | binder | ping !* |
| 22:34.52 | Arrowmaster | IsAddOnLoaded() wont return 1 until the ADDON_LOADED event |
| 22:35.28 | Arrowmaster | if they did make that change, which i swear i saw zoot say they did somewhere but yeah its not in the 3.0 thread |
| 22:35.37 | ccKep | did they just change the return value, or did they add a new return value and keep the old one as the 2nd? |
| 22:36.01 | ccKep | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202600944&postId=82016671389#4 |
| 22:36.04 | Pneumatus | IsAddOnLoaded() returns 1 value, nil if the addon isnt loaded, 1 if it is |
| 22:36.46 | Pneumatus | so yeh, thats the issue that is causing none of the Ace2 addons to fire OnInitialize()/OnLoad() on the beta realm |
| 22:36.52 | Pneumatus | because the lists arent getting populated |
| 22:37.49 | Arrowmaster | now the question is do we care enough to fix it |
| 22:38.38 | ulic | there are an aweful lot of addons that still use Ace2, and as far as I know, Ace3 is still in "beta", so to me that means ace3 needs come out of beta or ace2 should probably be fix, imo. |
| 22:40.09 | NivFreak | Ace2 is unsupported, Ace3 is beta, use Rock? :P |
| 22:40.37 | Aii | Well technically ulic |
| 22:40.41 | Aii | WotLK is still in beta too :P |
| 22:41.15 | yoshimo | does trancsriptor work with wotlk? |
| 22:41.18 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: seems a simple enough fix to implement, or not? |
| 22:41.20 | Aii | Ideally, Ace3 should come out of beta at least a month or so before WotLK comes out of beta |
| 22:41.31 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: no ace2 addon works atm, dunno if there's a ace3 branch of that yet |
| 22:41.40 | Pneumatus | except no one knows when wotlk will leave beta |
| 22:41.49 | Pneumatus | and then every old Ace2 author will need to update |
| 22:41.50 | Aii | This much is true |
| 22:41.52 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: sec im looking at it |
| 22:41.52 | Aii | hence the 'ideally' |
| 22:41.58 | Vonhinten | you guys make me laugh with this beta/release crap |
| 22:42.01 | NivFreak | yea, it seems a lot less finished than TBC beta was when it opened |
| 22:42.01 | Arrowmaster | fuck ckknight's shitty comments |
| 22:42.03 | ulic | yoshimo: while combatlogs hurt my eyes, they do work just as well. |
| 22:42.10 | ckknight | excuse me, Arrowmaster? |
| 22:42.13 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: master of the uncredited addon fixes :) |
| 22:42.15 | Pneumatus | and if it's anything like me, i requested an SVN password reset a fortnight ago and heard nothing |
| 22:42.35 | Aii | thats just because we dont like you |
| 22:42.38 | Aii | <3 |
| 22:42.40 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: comment your damn shit so i dont have to try to reverse engineer what it does |
| 22:42.47 | ckknight | yea, I am bad at that |
| 22:42.52 | ckknight | got a specific question for me? |
| 22:43.02 | Aii | some day, I will write an auto-code commenter and make millions |
| 22:43.07 | Aii | ...yeah right. |
| 22:43.16 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i think i got it figured out |
| 22:43.20 | ckknight | okay, cool |
| 22:43.27 | ckknight | well, I'm here if you have more issues |
| 22:43.27 | Gnarfoz | Aii: obviously. :P |
| 22:43.57 | Aii | I have no doubt that if someone ever did manage to write such a thing, they would indeed make millions |
| 22:44.05 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 22:44.30 | ckknight | can anyone else not log in to the US WotLK server? |
| 22:44.41 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I guess this breaks the 'enable necessary libraries' thing, right? (not that I care for that, just asking) |
| 22:44.44 | Pneumatus | you got a key then ckknight? |
| 22:44.48 | ckknight | yes, Pneumatus |
| 22:44.53 | Pneumatus | good stuff |
| 22:44.54 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: doubtful |
| 22:45.03 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: without reloading, I meant |
| 22:45.19 | Chompers | ckk, what does 'cannot trigger event' and 'allocation too big' mean? |
| 22:45.19 | Arrowmaster | maybe i guess |
| 22:45.24 | Arrowmaster | but im not fucking fixing that |
| 22:45.24 | ulic | wasn't that removed from ace3 anyways? |
| 22:45.38 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yeah, as I said, it was a stupid thing to begin with ^^ |
| 22:45.46 | ckknight | Chompers: don't know about the former, latter means you're out of mem either globally or for a specific table |
| 22:45.51 | Gnarfoz | ulic: that's the point, this is ace2 ;) |
| 22:46.35 | Saroz | cncfanatics, cant you make this more pretty? like make the GUID cache in the lib and not in the addons? |
| 22:46.43 | Chompers | okay, ty ckk |
| 22:46.53 | Saroz | cncfanatics, move all the logic you can to the lib |
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| 22:51.04 | cncfanatics | Saroz: it doesn't really belong into the lib imo |
| 22:51.10 | cncfanatics | it loops through the unitframes of the addon |
| 22:51.12 | grimman | Anyone here currently in the EU beta? |
| 22:51.19 | cncfanatics | wld have to loop through every possible unitid if I do it in the lib |
| 22:51.27 | Saroz | dunno, just seems rather ugly to have the code in each module |
| 22:51.42 | cncfanatics | not really |
| 22:51.53 | cncfanatics | a user will rarely have more then one or two modules |
| 22:52.00 | cncfanatics | (grid + pitbull for example) |
| 22:52.06 | Pneumatus | grimman: <-- |
| 22:52.06 | cncfanatics | and in that case, they won't share any unitid's anyway |
| 22:52.15 | grimman | Pneumatus: May I PM you? |
| 22:52.19 | Pneumatus | sure |
| 22:53.45 | Aii | hmm |
| 22:54.00 | Aii | cncfanatics: would it be possible to allow the option of registering a callback that only listens for a single guid |
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| 22:54.59 | cncfanatics | Aii: you can filter that out in your logic easely |
| 22:55.05 | cncfanatics | as the unitid is passed with it |
| 22:55.18 | Pneumatus | i certainly don't envy anyone planning on fixing Ace2 :< |
| 22:55.19 | cncfanatics | guid* |
| 22:55.29 | Pneumatus | well beyond what i'm willing to try to hack it anyway |
| 22:55.30 | Aii | sure... but I'd think it'd be a fairly common usage; so why not offer the option to have the filtering logic in the lib |
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| 22:56.25 | cncfanatics | Aii: because if I insert every single feature asked for in the lib it's gonna end up at 1k lines |
| 22:56.59 | Aii | sure, but that doesn't mean you can't add /any/ features |
| 22:57.03 | Vonhinten | that's what libs are for |
| 22:57.16 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: use the callback design that LDB does |
| 22:58.02 | Pneumatus | i can't live without Grid :< |
| 22:58.08 | Huuph | Is there any way to find the owner of a pet if I have it as a unit (apart from parsing the "guild name")? I can't find anything helpful for it in the API |
| 22:58.43 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: what is LDB and how is it designed ? |
| 22:58.44 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster 07WotLK * r79420 10Ace2/: Ace2: create WotLK branch against my better judgement |
| 22:58.58 | Ackis | hahah @ Arrowmaster |
| 22:59.01 | Pneumatus | heh |
| 22:59.02 | profalbert | lol |
| 22:59.05 | NivFreak | man |
| 22:59.10 | NivFreak | I can't wait to get my 4pc t6 bonus |
| 22:59.20 | NivFreak | I'm able to sustain 1200-1500TPS now days |
| 22:59.29 | NivFreak | the set bonus should be nuts |
| 23:00.11 | Pneumatus | so, have author/optin keys started going out now? |
| 23:00.26 | kagaro | ~lart arrowmaster |
| 23:00.26 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets arrowmaster feel it |
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| 23:01.56 | CIA-45 | 03laotseu * r79421 10AllPlayed/AllPlayed.toc: |
| 23:01.56 | CIA-45 | AllPlayed: |
| 23:01.56 | CIA-45 | - Corrected the WoWUI tag |
| 23:01.58 | CIA-45 | 03arrowmaster 07WotLK * r79422 10Ace2/AceAddon-2.0/AceAddon-2.0.lua: Ace2: AceAddon-2.0: possible fix for WotLKs IsAddOnLoaded() logic change |
| 23:02.03 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: could you expand on the LDB callback design ? |
| 23:02.08 | sylvanaar | Pneumatus seems like some people have them now - but not a whole lot |
| 23:02.47 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master/LibDataBroker-1.1.lua |
| 23:02.52 | Chompers | NivFreak: i need one piece for my bonus, i've never had a proper set before |
| 23:02.56 | Chompers | it feels good :D |
| 23:02.57 | Arrowmaster | lines 27-30 i think |
| 23:02.59 | cncfanatics | I'll add a memo for that |
| 23:03.01 | cncfanatics | its 1am |
| 23:03.04 | cncfanatics | I need sleep |
| 23:03.22 | Tekkub | expand? why? |
| 23:03.22 | cncfanatics | g'night |
| 23:03.39 | cncfanatics | Tekkub: I was asking how LDB's callback design works |
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| 23:03.52 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: we're porting Ace2 to wrath? seems kinda... meaningless |
| 23:04.07 | Saroz | except if you dont all mods will break |
| 23:04.07 | Arrowmaster | Orionshock: i direct you to my inital commit message |
| 23:04.23 | Tekkub | lik CallbackHandler... |
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| 23:04.40 | Tekkub | what's unclear in the documentation? |
| 23:04.40 | Arrowmaster | nobody said it has to be moved to trunk when WotLK release comes around |
| 23:04.50 | grimman | I really hope the LK upgrade is smoother than BC. 100% broken UI was ftl. |
| 23:05.03 | Tekkub | grimman, it's not |
| 23:05.06 | Arrowmaster | Tekkub: i was refering to LDB's usage of concating properties to create new callback names |
| 23:05.13 | grimman | :< |
| 23:05.13 | Tekkub | er... sorry misread |
| 23:05.14 | Pneumatus | grimman: compared to the updates to the API in BC, WotLK has barely changed |
| 23:05.27 | grimman | /hug Pneumatus |
| 23:05.28 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: yes it has |
| 23:05.28 | Pneumatus | up until the last build, pretty much everything worked |
| 23:05.31 | Tekkub | yes, it's more like a patch than a total rewrite of the core functionality |
| 23:05.32 | Saroz | well there is some changes to the secure system |
| 23:05.36 | Orionshock | Arrowmaster: indeed |
| 23:06.25 | grimman | Tekkub: You scared me. |
| 23:06.25 | grimman | :P |
| 23:06.25 | Vulcanus | changes how, like making it tighter or more lax? :p |
| 23:06.25 | Tekkub | grimman, I thought you said you WANTED a 100% do-over :P |
| 23:06.25 | Arrowmaster | global 'this' and 'arg#' are gone |
| 23:06.33 | grimman | Oh... no, that'd be dreadful. |
| 23:06.39 | Tekkub | thank god the globals are going |
| 23:06.56 | Tekkub | and I still have no idea how the new secure shit works... tekPopbar go down the hole |
| 23:06.58 | Saroz | ckknight did you look at the secure stuff? |
| 23:07.01 | CIA-45 | 03laotseu * r79423 10FuBar_DominosFu/FuBar_DominosFu.toc: |
| 23:07.01 | CIA-45 | FuBar_DominosFu: |
| 23:07.01 | CIA-45 | - Bump the TOC in order to WoWAce wiki script so that the TOC Metadata is processed |
| 23:07.04 | ckknight | yes, Saroz |
| 23:07.06 | Tekkub | hopefully they're easier to deal with than BC's :P |
| 23:07.11 | Saroz | idd Tekkub, no idea either, looks really really really odd |
| 23:07.14 | Arrowmaster | anybody that still does frame scripts in xml is going to need to fix every single script |
| 23:07.18 | Saroz | ckknight, thoughts? |
| 23:07.28 | ckknight | I'm glad they're changing to the way they are |
| 23:07.28 | grimman | I still have no idea how the OLD secure stuff works. :P |
| 23:07.33 | Tekkub | that'll lern them to use XML |
| 23:07.38 | ckknight | but I need to log in and start coding PitBull4 |
| 23:07.48 | ZealotOnAStick | 4? |
| 23:07.50 | Arrowmaster | theres a 3? |
| 23:07.50 | Saroz | plx do, so I can ninja code :X |
| 23:07.56 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: technically the current is 3.0 |
| 23:07.57 | Tekkub | grimman, nor do I, tekPopbar just works... |
| 23:08.01 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was 2? |
| 23:08.07 | ckknight | nope |
| 23:08.09 | grimman | ckknight: Please duplicate DUF! :P |
| 23:08.09 | Arrowmaster | with 1 being some old ace2 version |
| 23:08.30 | ckknight | grimman: I plan to make the config more graphical and VB-like, but I plan to make it a lot slimmer, unlike DUF |
| 23:08.31 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: you have an svn client right? |
| 23:08.34 | Pkekyo| | any yanks here atm? |
| 23:08.37 | Saroz | Discord? wtf people still use that |
| 23:08.37 | Pneumatus | holy crap Arrowmaster |
| 23:08.38 | Pneumatus | instafix |
| 23:08.44 | Pneumatus | you win 100 internets |
| 23:08.51 | Pkekyo| | yanks please report in! |
| 23:08.55 | grimman | lol, yeah, Saroz. |
| 23:08.55 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: I could be referred to as that |
| 23:09.09 | grimman | ckknight: I was referring to the fine-grain control. |
| 23:09.18 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: http://img3.imagebanana.com/img/5ancjwab/Kit27.07.08.jpg are you just refered to the imagebanana.com logo here? |
| 23:09.26 | Saroz | I <3 the way pitbull is now though, tons of stuff to tweak just the way you want |
| 23:09.27 | ckknight | yes, Pkekyo| |
| 23:09.36 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: working perfectly as embedded, havn't tried it dis-embeded tho |
| 23:09.36 | grimman | The code itself... if you EVER recreate that, I hope the addon dev community banishes you. |
| 23:09.39 | Arrowmaster | wow and the fix was perty minor too http://groups.google.com/group/wowace/browse_thread/thread/923543ad83cb7b8a?hl=en |
| 23:09.51 | ckknight | Saroz: I plan to remove some pointless options, make things a lot easier to config |
| 23:10.00 | Pkekyo| | any yanks here that are NOT refered to the imagebanana.com logo? |
| 23:10.00 | Pkekyo| | ckknight: who's your ISP? |
| 23:10.06 | Pneumatus | yeh, i actually just copied the diff into my own copy |
| 23:10.07 | ckknight | Pkekyo|: I don't know, I'm at work |
| 23:10.16 | Pkekyo| | ah |
| 23:10.38 | Pkekyo| | trying to figure out who's affected by imagebanana's anti-americanism :P |
| 23:10.52 | Pneumatus | it hadn't occured to me to call GetAddOnInfo() on the addon number regardless to check for enabled and loadable |
| 23:11.52 | Pneumatus | most excellentness, i can sleep easy knowing my addons will be working tomorrow :) |
| 23:11.52 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: it probably breaks some stuff though with a large number of addons |
| 23:12.13 | Arrowmaster | since this method is less accurate |
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| 23:12.28 | Arrowmaster | well actually |
| 23:12.36 | Pneumatus | surely its doing exactly the same |
| 23:12.42 | Arrowmaster | i think the old one was perty innacurate too |
| 23:12.43 | Pneumatus | infact, more accurate than previously |
| 23:12.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:13.23 | Pneumatus | i'm not sure how a condition would arrive when the addon is enabled and loadable, but isnt a possibleName |
| 23:13.26 | Arrowmaster | the old method would have been more accurate with more code to remember previous ADDON_LOADED calls and exclude them |
| 23:13.32 | Arrowmaster | cant do that with the new one |
| 23:14.36 | Arrowmaster | since the old behavior returned 1 for any addon that had its ToC loaded by the game even if it hadnt started processing (like if it had a Dep that the game then went to load first instead) or if it had already been fully loaded |
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| 23:15.16 | Pneumatus | the only issue now would be that its gonna hit big loops for processing with lots of addons running, right? |
| 23:15.43 | Arrowmaster | the new behavior returns 1 only after ADDON_LOADED is called so you have to use a list of enabled loadable addons that havent been fully loaded yet |
| 23:18.47 | Pkekyo| | any other yanks not able to view the picture? or any non-yanks not able to? |
| 23:19.14 | NeoTron_ | WoW expansion aka Addon Cleanup Patch (gone with the old and unsupported!) |
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| 23:19.55 | Arrowmaster | hmm actually yes this fix is going to cause problems |
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| 23:22.45 | ReAn | AceConfig:Open(app, frame) <--- what's frame? |
| 23:22.47 | ReAn | or rather |
| 23:22.50 | ReAn | what do i need to supply |
| 23:22.57 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79424 10TweakHub/ (7 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:22.57 | CIA-45 | TweakHub: |
| 23:22.57 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:22.57 | CIA-45 | - Updated to use ACE3 |
| 23:22.57 | CIA-45 | - Added Blizzard option support |
| 23:22.58 | CIA-45 | - Option tables are now loaded and cleared on a per module basis and each module must define a Name property which is used to display the initial menu rather than module name. |
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| 23:25.26 | Arrowmaster | ReAn: the name you registered with |
| 23:25.27 | djspark | hello, is bartender4 a beta release, or a full release we can use, and does it require an additional addon to show up in the addonconfig or fubar? |
| 23:25.31 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79425 10TweakHub_Automation/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:25.31 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_Automation: |
| 23:25.31 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:25.31 | CIA-45 | - Modified for compatibility with TweakHub 2.0 |
| 23:25.31 | CIA-45 | - Upgraded to ACE3 |
| 23:25.31 | CIA-45 | - Fixed a bug with the auto accept group invite options table that caused settings not to save and display correctly. |
| 23:25.42 | ReAn | Arrowmaster: isn't that the "Application" |
| 23:25.45 | ReAn | not the Frame? |
| 23:25.54 | profalbert | djspark: there is no fubar-plugin I know of |
| 23:25.59 | Arrowmaster | djspark: full release, no fubar, its in the interface options panel |
| 23:26.03 | profalbert | it shows up in blizzard-config though |
| 23:26.11 | Arrowmaster | ReAn: yes the "string" name |
| 23:26.31 | djspark | ok, it says it loads, but I'm not seeing the config in blizzard-config |
| 23:26.33 | djspark | I'll check again |
| 23:26.44 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79426 10TweakHub_Chat/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:26.44 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_Chat: |
| 23:26.44 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:26.44 | CIA-45 | - Modified for compatibility with TweakHub 2.0 |
| 23:26.44 | CIA-45 | - Upgraded to ACE3 |
| 23:26.45 | CIA-45 | - Still has an unresolved issue with hooking the chat fram AddMessage functions. |
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| 23:27.18 | profalbert | djspark: try /bt4. if nothing shows up, the addon isn' t loaded |
| 23:27.18 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79427 10TweakHub_CombatLogger/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:27.18 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_CombatLogger: |
| 23:27.18 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:27.18 | CIA-45 | - Modified for compatibility with TweakHub 2.0 |
| 23:27.18 | CIA-45 | - Upgraded to ACE3 |
| 23:27.46 | Arrowmaster | ReAn: frame seems to be an AceGUI object or something |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79428 10TweakHub_Merchant/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_Merchant: |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:28.02 | CIA-45 | - Modified for compatibility with TweakHub 2.0 |
| 23:28.03 | CIA-45 | - Upgraded to ACE3 |
| 23:28.28 | djspark | it showed up wit /bt4, just nowhere else |
| 23:28.40 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79429 10TweakHub_Minimap/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:28.40 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_Minimap: |
| 23:28.40 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:28.40 | CIA-45 | - Modified for compatibility with TweakHub 2.0 |
| 23:28.41 | CIA-45 | - Upgraded to ACE3 |
| 23:28.53 | Arrowmaster | swore it was in interface options, maybe not |
| 23:28.54 | profalbert | djspark: isn't /bt4 enough? |
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| 23:29.12 | djspark | it's plenty, just reporting back what I saw |
| 23:29.17 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79430 10TweakHub_Reputation/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:29.17 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_Reputation: |
| 23:29.17 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:29.17 | CIA-45 | - Modified for compatibility with TweakHub 2.0 |
| 23:29.18 | CIA-45 | - Upgraded to ACE3 |
| 23:29.22 | profalbert | hmm.. he's right, it's not showing up for me either |
| 23:29.48 | CIA-45 | 03killermiles * r79431 10TweakHub_RWFilter/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:29.48 | CIA-45 | TweakHub_RWFilter: |
| 23:29.48 | CIA-45 | - Updated to version 2.0 |
| 23:29.48 | CIA-45 | - Modified for compatibility with TweakHub 2.0 |
| 23:29.49 | CIA-45 | - Upgraded to ACE3 |
| 23:29.51 | djspark | is there a need for a fubar_bt4 addon or just a patch against the pt4 code |
| 23:30.01 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:30.04 | Arrowmaster | nobody wants one |
| 23:30.32 | profalbert | bars aren't reconfigured that often |
| 23:30.35 | djspark | I'd like it to show in the blizz config |
| 23:30.50 | djspark | and don't mind submitting a patch to do so |
| 23:31.09 | Arrowmaster | that would be perty easy and not require a patch |
| 23:31.29 | profalbert | it's actually 1 or 2 lines with AceConfig-3.0 |
| 23:31.32 | Arrowmaster | but nev might not have done it because the blizzard config was too small by default |
| 23:32.23 | djspark | hehe, that's why I'd be able to write a patch, because I know it'd be easy :-) |
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| 23:34.33 | djspark | hmm, a few things are missing from bt4, I take it this is a code-rewrite? |
| 23:34.48 | profalbert | djspark: yep |
| 23:34.59 | NeoTron_ | what do you see missing? (just curious, I haven't tested it yet) |
| 23:35.07 | profalbert | sticky-bars |
| 23:35.23 | NeoTron_ | don't even know what that is >:-) |
| 23:35.23 | djspark | well, I just returned to wow after a big break, and right before I left sticky bars was introduced |
| 23:35.28 | djspark | :-d |
| 23:35.55 | ReAn | Hrm, my DB dosent seem to be saving itself >_> |
| 23:36.03 | NeoTron_ | profalbert: to do it properly you'd want to split it out to multiple "sections" (See MagicTargets). |
| 23:36.38 | Arrowmaster | ReAn: are you doing the inital call to AceDB-3.0 to setup the DB inside your OnInit? |
| 23:36.49 | ReAn | Arrowmaster: No |
| 23:37.00 | Arrowmaster | then move it to there |
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| 23:38.58 | ReAn | awesome, thx Arrowmaster |
| 23:41.10 | Aiiane | Note that I even added a comment to that regard, Arrowmaster & ReAn :P http://wowace.com/wiki/AceDB-3.0 |
| 23:41.28 | Aiiane | "-- Note: This should not be called from the main chunk, but instead from OnInitialize or some such." |
| 23:41.31 | ReAn | thanks Aiiane |
| 23:41.48 | ReAn | Ace3 really is lacking in docs on wiki |
| 23:41.49 | Aiiane | 1 week ago exactly :P |
| 23:43.20 | ReAn | ah |
| 23:43.23 | NivFreak | so wait, SwapRaidSubgroup() is protected, but SetRaidSubgroup() is not? |
| 23:44.29 | Arrowmaster | Aiiane: what you didnt add a comment about calling LoadAddOn() in the main chunk causing it to not work in OnInitialize and needing to register for ADDON_LOADED and manually checking arg1 to see if it matchs the addons name before calling AceDB:New()? |
| 23:46.58 | NivFreak | I don't understand why they would protect one of these, and not both |
| 23:48.50 | Arrowmaster | if DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME and DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.defaultLanguage then -- HACK |
| 23:49.01 | Arrowmaster | how long have we had IsLoggedIn()? |
| 23:51.00 | Aiiane | swats at Arrowmaster |
| 23:51.02 | Orionshock | anyone on the beta realms atm or are they still unstable? |
| 23:51.19 | profalbert | orionshock: both |
| 23:51.34 | Orionshock | can you provide a pasty of the tradeskill link? |
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| 23:51.45 | raegx | mmmmm hello everyone |
| 23:51.53 | profalbert | think so |
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| 23:52.14 | Orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:52.24 | Orionshock | the one that links the entire tradeskill |
| 23:53.16 | Orionshock | Tekkub: do u have a running theory on how those links work? |
| 23:53.37 | Tekkub | it's just a bitmap |
| 23:54.28 | Orionshock | right... but how they work IE - how they constructed the bitmap ect. |
| 23:54.39 | Orionshock | any theory or guess? |
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| 23:55.20 | Tekkub | it's just a list of all the spells in the craft |
| 23:55.56 | CIA-45 | 03gnarfoz 07WotLK * r79432 10Parrot/Data/Cooldowns.lua: Parrot (WotLK): Also update Divine Protection spellid |
| 23:56.38 | Gnarfoz | profalbert: it's actually error free now ;) |
| 23:56.50 | profalbert | gnarfoz: thanks |
| 23:57.18 | Orionshock | ok on that idea it can be said that each bit, as cnc said, is a binary value if the player has the spell. so we'd have to map the bitmap to everyspell for a given craft. that's a static list. |
| 23:58.11 | Orionshock | if that's true, i feel a new lib showing up where u provide the link and it returns that list |
| 23:58.11 | Aiiane | at least, until you add a recipe :P |
| 23:58.16 | Gnarfoz | until they add/remove something :) |
| 23:58.18 | raegx | anyone know if there is a better way to obtain an epoch time stamp of the servers time other than comaring time() to GetGameTime()? |
| 23:58.31 | Orionshock | Aiiane: no it has to show all spells for a craft, ordering must be fixed |
| 23:58.47 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: does XLoot1.0 not have any config, yet? |
| 23:58.51 | Aiiane | Orionshock: by "you" I meant Blizzard |
| 23:58.59 | Aiiane | and by "add" I meant introduce a new recipe to the game |
| 23:59.01 | Orionshock | right |
| 23:59.17 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: It has a config for everything but snap offsets and one other thing I forgot |
| 23:59.26 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 23:59.26 | Xuerian | It's perfectly usable, except for the fact that it breaks all the modules. >_> |
| 23:59.37 | Gnarfoz | ahhh my fault |
| 23:59.46 | Gnarfoz | I was trying /xloot, it's probably in the blizz thingy, right? ^^ |
| 23:59.50 | Xuerian | Yes |
| 23:59.52 | Gnarfoz | d'oh :) |
