| 00:00.07 | Voliand | doesn't seem to matter, the "omg list dps!" warlock types that cast their first mega nuke even before the mob arrives at your tank got omen, they just think it's a hoot when it flashes... |
| 00:00.43 | Voliand | my growl and challenging roar buttons glow red... |
| 00:00.55 | Primer | I'm talking about "you want to raid, you have these addons. You pull aggro one too many times, and I boot your ass" |
| 00:03.11 | Voliand | I think it's some kind of badge of honor to force your tank to use his taunt continuously |
| 00:04.24 | Neya | On trashmobs it's a way to make it less boring, let the tank get ~600 threat then see how long he can keep it. |
| 00:05.12 | Voliand | yeah real funny, if someone does that more than a couple of times I finally just sit down |
| 00:05.34 | Arrowmaster | hey now |
| 00:05.44 | Diao | Voliand: there's spygnome which you can use to query versions from other people |
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| 00:05.47 | Arrowmaster | all us locks like to have a little fun now and then |
| 00:05.52 | Neya | haha |
| 00:05.55 | Voliand | Diao: I didn't ask the question |
| 00:06.04 | Arrowmaster | like soulfiring mobs before they get to the tank |
| 00:06.04 | Diao | oh |
| 00:06.05 | Diao | lol |
| 00:06.07 | Diao | whoops |
| 00:06.11 | Diao | Primer- spygnome :p |
| 00:06.25 | Arrowmaster | then blaming the mages saying it was a pyro |
| 00:06.36 | Voliand | Arrowmaster: I rememeber wiping at 2% on nefarian when our resident hothead warlock started pumping shadowbolts... |
| 00:06.47 | Voliand | turned him on breath |
| 00:07.07 | Voliand | and I mean pumping |
| 00:07.25 | Arrowmaster | wait you guys had threat issues on nef? |
| 00:07.27 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 00:07.39 | Arrowmaster | and i play horde! |
| 00:07.53 | Voliand | hello? warlock pumping shadowbolts like there is no tomorrow? |
| 00:08.05 | Arrowmaster | been there |
| 00:08.08 | Arrowmaster | i could never get close to the tank |
| 00:08.26 | Voliand | well our tanks weren't brilliant |
| 00:08.28 | Neya | I hate Nef, the one raid I forgot about his classcalls he broke 5 bows for me before I managed to get the macros out... |
| 00:08.37 | Voliand | Neya: heh |
| 00:08.42 | Diao | addons! |
| 00:08.44 | Voliand | nef wasn't as hard as the mobs before imo |
| 00:08.53 | Diao | the drakes? they were jokes.. |
| 00:08.55 | Voliand | I'm Alliance |
| 00:08.59 | Voliand | no shamans |
| 00:09.05 | Arrowmaster | first nef kill with hard colors was great |
| 00:09.25 | Arrowmaster | since nobody on the realm could bitch that we got ezmode colors |
| 00:09.25 | Voliand | we got first kill on our server after getting 3 hard colors in a row |
| 00:10.05 | Voliand | we got timelapse on the chrome guy also |
| 00:10.10 | Arrowmaster | lol same |
| 00:10.20 | Neya | timelapse was fun! |
| 00:10.23 | Arrowmaster | timelapse 2nd kill |
| 00:10.25 | Arrowmaster | and 2nd week |
| 00:10.44 | Arrowmaster | and hard nef colors |
| 00:10.54 | Voliand | out of 5 kills I was on all of em the first we got it 4 times... :> |
| 00:10.58 | Arrowmaster | killed nef the 2nd week |
| 00:11.05 | Voliand | third here |
| 00:11.15 | Voliand | we got hard colors 3 times in a row |
| 00:11.32 | Arrowmaster | and another guild on our realm had split because they were wiping on nef for months |
| 00:11.40 | Arrowmaster | MONTHS |
| 00:11.55 | Voliand | lol |
| 00:12.08 | Voliand | well it is a hard encounter, the mobs more so than nef imo |
| 00:12.21 | Voliand | and 40 stuff was really really horrible |
| 00:12.23 | Arrowmaster | we didnt find it hard |
| 00:12.29 | Voliand | Arrowmaster: horde? |
| 00:12.32 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:12.38 | Voliand | well duh totems |
| 00:12.41 | Neya | it's a matter of the people. |
| 00:12.47 | Voliand | slow totem and mobs were a walkover |
| 00:13.01 | Voliand | Neya: and with 40 you got a lot more factors |
| 00:13.07 | Arrowmaster | we frost traped and didnt earthbind |
| 00:13.25 | Voliand | it's damn hard atm to have 10 people awake alert and connected in kara imo... 40 was murder |
| 00:13.26 | Industrial | anyone here use nLite? |
| 00:13.32 | Neya | BoS made it easier in my opinion. and yea, frost traps was our way too. |
| 00:14.03 | Arrowmaster | it was a fun fight, even if some of the class calls were stupid |
| 00:14.08 | Neya | that was what I meant Voliand, it's the people. |
| 00:14.12 | Voliand | druid one was fun |
| 00:14.13 | Voliand | DPS! |
| 00:14.22 | vithos | Industrial: yeah |
| 00:14.24 | Voliand | back then we were healer only |
| 00:14.25 | Neya | paladin call was a joke, but annoying. |
| 00:14.38 | Voliand | what was it? bubble related? |
| 00:14.45 | Arrowmaster | our rogues had '/y NOT IN THE FACE!' macros |
| 00:14.50 | Neya | blessing of bubblethingy. |
| 00:15.08 | Voliand | priest one was fun unless you had some retarded semi afk priest that just looks at their targets hp bar and got their fingers on 3 heals |
| 00:15.10 | Industrial | vithos: apparently you can delete the recycle bin icon frmo your desktop. |
| 00:15.18 | Industrial | vithos: how do I get it back :P |
| 00:15.25 | Voliand | Arrowmaster: what was the rogue call? |
| 00:15.30 | Industrial | fail, I know, ha ha ha. |
| 00:15.31 | Arrowmaster | port and root |
| 00:15.38 | Industrial | but i really need it back lol |
| 00:15.40 | Voliand | our MT was healed to death once in BWL... |
| 00:15.46 | vithos | display properties > desktop > customize desktop.. is it listed there? |
| 00:16.03 | Industrial | yes |
| 00:16.13 | vithos | but there's no checkbox for it? |
| 00:16.20 | Industrial | nop |
| 00:16.36 | vithos | i could swear there used to be, but there isn't for me either |
| 00:16.42 | vithos | hmm |
| 00:17.13 | Industrial | theres a bin in RECYCLER on that partition :P |
| 00:17.20 | Industrial | (I just renamed it to 'bin') |
| 00:17.45 | Arrowmaster | i renamed mine to Bitbucket years ago |
| 00:17.46 | vithos | i bet TweakUI can restore it |
| 00:17.50 | Industrial | i tried |
| 00:17.56 | Arrowmaster | not that i use it |
| 00:17.57 | Voliand | I don't even use desktop icons anymore, too disorganized |
| 00:17.59 | Industrial | but no, it doesnt appear in TweakUI |
| 00:18.09 | Arrowmaster | my desktop cant even display icons anymore |
| 00:18.33 | Kyou_ | Industrial: http://www.petri.co.il/delete_recycle_bin_icon_from_the_desktop_in_xp_2003.htm and try google for it |
| 00:18.35 | vithos | try these registry keys http://support.microsoft.com/kb/810869 |
| 00:18.52 | vithos | or gpedit |
| 00:19.13 | Funkeh` | oh I did that in vista |
| 00:19.20 | Funkeh` | at least it's easy to get it back |
| 00:19.57 | Industrial | Kyou_: didnt work |
| 00:20.30 | Trell_ | this is ridiculous - anyone completed the quest to turn miners into ghouls? |
| 00:20.51 | Kyou_ | Industrial: http://www.5starsupport.com/download/replbin.reg this reg looks like it should work |
| 00:21.04 | Kyou_ | save it and import into registry |
| 00:21.53 | Industrial | its back! (due to the previous link) |
| 00:21.57 | Industrial | ty Kyou_ :P |
| 00:22.09 | Neo|Home | so love windows yes? :P |
| 00:22.27 | Kyou_ | nps, it was even the 2nd link in google |
| 00:22.28 | Funkeh` | love windows after you spend 3 hours tweaking the shit out of it |
| 00:22.30 | Industrial | well its a home made version of windows that lets you do this tbh |
| 00:22.40 | Funkeh` | in all versions |
| 00:22.43 | Voliand | I was in all betas available to me prior to this, but this one I'll not be joining it seems :( |
| 00:22.52 | Industrial | but yes I prefer it to using linux on my desktop because i wont stop messing with shit on linux |
| 00:22.58 | Industrial | to the point where it breaks when I want to do stuff |
| 00:23.06 | Voliand | would be nice if us double collection edition owners would get some kind of increased odds or something... |
| 00:23.27 | Funkeh` | no, just no |
| 00:23.36 | Industrial | Voliand: yes, money solves the issue. |
| 00:23.47 | Industrial | (not) |
| 00:23.48 | sdouble | Go buy a key on eBay if you want to buy your way in. |
| 00:24.00 | Neo|Home | they haven't announced wotlk collection edition stuff yet right? |
| 00:24.03 | kadrahil | |Kev|: sorry i never got back to you about keeping macaceudpater up to date (i was that guy), i was real busy with class this summer and raiding and i didn't have any time to program like i thought i would. :( |
| 00:24.05 | Voliand | I don't trust that kind of arrangement |
| 00:24.29 | Industrial | Voliand: I dont trust people that think they can buy things like that with money |
| 00:24.32 | Voliand | too much chance of getting scammed or hung out to dry with no recourse |
| 00:24.47 | Neo|Home | sdouble: it seems liek the few keys on ebay are actually the blizzcon beta codes that, afaik, are expired as of aug 1st |
| 00:24.52 | Voliand | Industrial: just saying, you did get to enter the TBC beta if you pre-ordered it |
| 00:25.17 | Voliand | thus it was partially about money |
| 00:25.18 | Dashkal | sweet. soul well to gain 25 charges |
| 00:25.25 | Neo|Home | Voliand: such stuff is usually pretty late in the game though right? stress test shotgun testing phase? |
| 00:25.25 | Industrial | Voliand: I know |
| 00:25.34 | Neo|Home | Dashkal: about fucking time |
| 00:25.34 | Voliand | true |
| 00:25.35 | Industrial | Voliand: but I won it fair and square :P |
| 00:25.44 | sdouble | how many charges did it have? |
| 00:25.48 | Dashkal | 10 |
| 00:25.51 | sdouble | lame |
| 00:26.17 | sdouble | It seems I should have been more excited about getting them in AV |
| 00:27.01 | Voliand | Industrial: didn't you get it through your addon work? |
| 00:27.22 | Voliand | which imo is more important than us mortals playing it |
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| 00:27.30 | Neo|Home | sdouble: I rarely every would use them in AV |
| 00:27.33 | Neo|Home | waste of shards :P |
| 00:27.42 | Neo|Home | Voliand: no addon keys yet |
| 00:27.47 | Neo|Home | Voliand: I mean addon author keys |
| 00:27.51 | Voliand | kk |
| 00:28.12 | Ackis | on beta, how do you change the text colour of UIPanelCloseButton ? |
| 00:28.13 | Neo|Home | unless they jsut randomly pick a few from that list here and there since there are some ppl were on that list that got random invites |
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| 00:28.27 | Elsia | heya |
| 00:29.11 | Industrial | Voliand: yes |
| 00:29.23 | Voliand | yes? |
| 00:29.32 | Industrial | Voliand: but I'm not saying that I'm better then a normal player :p |
| 00:30.04 | Voliand | I'm a feral druid that likes to pvp, I'm far from "normal"... |
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| 00:30.50 | Neo|Home | Industrial: you got an addon author invite outside of curse/wowi etc? |
| 00:31.16 | Neo|Home | or just a nomral "friend of someoen at blizzard key"... :P |
| 00:31.54 | Industrial | no, only one through wowi, but i have yet to receive it. |
| 00:33.06 | Neo|Home | well then you don't have one ;-) |
| 00:33.40 | Matrix110 | I got a spam mail from "Daniela" who claims that she is pregnant from me and the attachment is a pic of the pregnancy test |
| 00:33.41 | Matrix110 | hmmmk |
| 00:34.03 | Ackis | Matrix110: you too? |
| 00:34.03 | Matrix110 | *delete* |
| 00:38.41 | Dashkal | oops sorry, I think that one was for me... |
| 00:41.57 | Zyndrome | oh, looking at a screen from todays raid... I still have Crusader Aura on during a Muru-attempt |
| 00:41.59 | Zyndrome | blushes |
| 00:43.05 | Voliand | I've tanked most of kara in kitten gear... |
| 00:45.15 | Neo|Home | Zyndrome: you need to get BuffEnough! |
| 00:45.23 | Neo|Home | or have enough ppl in your group with it |
| 00:46.45 | Zyndrome | or I can just find pleasure in making it harder for my group ... "push that DPS, boy! no I aint giving you aura, now get in there and show who's boss!" |
| 00:46.49 | Zyndrome | >:3 |
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| 00:49.49 | Diao | hmm |
| 00:49.58 | Diao | anyone know of a totem timer addon that uses bars and not icons |
| 00:50.02 | Diao | aside from yata |
| 00:51.39 | Neo|Home | I was about to say yata >:-) |
| 00:51.49 | Diao | yata isn't updated to use buttonfacade |
| 00:51.50 | Diao | so :( |
| 00:52.15 | Voliand | if you want bars why care about buttonfacade? |
| 00:52.46 | Kemayo | For the bits of the addon that involve buttons, I suppose. |
| 00:53.28 | Diao | yeah |
| 00:53.33 | Diao | the actual totem buttons themselves |
| 00:53.33 | Voliand | buttons? |
| 00:53.44 | Voliand | oh you don't use bars for that |
| 00:53.46 | Diao | yata is a totem timer and bar |
| 00:53.58 | Diao | it has 4 buttons for each element totem :p |
| 00:54.05 | Voliand | kk |
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| 00:54.42 | Kemayo | I'm just glad that they moved totem timers into the default UI finally. |
| 00:55.30 | Kemayo | I wonder if yata was ever updated to use the new backend stuff. |
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| 01:00.22 | Voliand | funny how all popular addons end up in the UI after a couple of years |
| 01:02.52 | Funkeh` | actually it's more like addons that are seen to be "dependant" |
| 01:03.03 | Kemayo | It's a very smart way to handle things. Let people modify your UI, then adopt the best of what comes out of it. |
| 01:03.14 | Voliand | Funkeh`: true |
| 01:03.18 | Voliand | omen is a good example |
| 01:03.32 | Funkeh` | I wonder in what build the boss mods will come |
| 01:03.33 | Voliand | something that should always existed |
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| 01:04.30 | Funkeh` | the introduction of the calendar thing has to be one of the most useful things imo |
| 01:04.39 | Voliand | I don't see it |
| 01:04.43 | Elsia | didn't tigole suggest that WotLK will have bossmoddy type stuff during blizzcon? |
| 01:04.46 | Kemayo | It's coming in WotLK. |
| 01:04.52 | Funkeh` | it's not active, just the code is there |
| 01:04.57 | Kemayo | He said there'd be some bossmod-type warnings. |
| 01:05.05 | Funkeh` | yeah, wtb it |
| 01:05.06 | Voliand | Funkeh`: I meant I don't see it being important |
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| 01:05.20 | Voliand | Kemayo: doesn't most stuff like that come with an emote at least? |
| 01:05.38 | Funkeh` | I hardly call that a boss mod |
| 01:05.44 | Voliand | if you know the encounter it's np but joe shmoe wouldn't get it |
| 01:05.52 | Kemayo | Voliand: Yup. The impression I have from the blizzcon coverage is that they'd be dumping those emotes into much more visible places. |
| 01:05.58 | Voliand | kk |
| 01:06.07 | Kemayo | I could very well be misremembering, though. |
| 01:06.10 | Funkeh` | I just want some good new api |
| 01:06.17 | Voliand | and perhaps make it clear the boss guy is about to do something really bad |
| 01:06.23 | Funkeh` | hopefully reducing the need to figure out timers too |
| 01:06.39 | Funkeh` | and maybe more predictability of random events |
| 01:06.49 | Funkeh` | or just give us the cooldown |
| 01:06.56 | Voliand | I hate having some random guy that doesn't have a clue not do the right thing when something like that happens, murmur's aoe is the classic example |
| 01:07.08 | Kemayo | From the sound of the changes they're trying to lower randomness in boss fights a bit. |
| 01:07.29 | Funkeh` | guesing cooldowns is a nightmare |
| 01:07.30 | Kemayo | I mean, no more crushing blows from raid bosses means things will be a *lot* easier to predict for healers. |
| 01:07.31 | Voliand | I was the only guy standing the first to third attempts after his aoe, and I was the only melee |
| 01:07.50 | Voliand | Kemayo: ? |
| 01:08.31 | Kemayo | Voliand: They've changed it so crushing blows only happen if a mob is 4 levels over you, instead of 3. Thus skull-mobs like raid bosses, being fixed at 3 levels over you, will no longer crush you. |
| 01:08.43 | Voliand | crush? |
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| 01:09.03 | Kemayo | Crushing blows. http://www.wowwiki.com/Crushing_Blow |
| 01:09.31 | Funkeh` | wtb more coding time |
| 01:09.32 | Voliand | errm what tank isn't immune to them? |
| 01:09.52 | Neya | crits. |
| 01:10.00 | Neya | or wait |
| 01:10.03 | Funkeh` | I'm guessing druids? |
| 01:10.08 | Neya | sorry, I'm a bit tired :P |
| 01:10.18 | Voliand | I got 36% dodge |
| 01:10.24 | Voliand | and I'm crit immune |
| 01:10.33 | Neya | but yea, druids aren't immune to crushing blows. |
| 01:10.38 | Kemayo | Paladins and Warriors have windows of vulnerability when shield block / holy shield are down. |
| 01:10.45 | Voliand | doesn't the chat log say something if you receive a crushing blow? |
| 01:10.55 | Neya | as I said, I'm tired and read your question wrong at first Voliand. |
| 01:11.12 | Voliand | kk |
| 01:11.49 | Voliand | "Forget it. You will eat crushing blows." |
| 01:11.49 | Neya | and yes, the combatlog normally tells you if it was a crush or a normal hit. |
| 01:12.24 | Arrowmaster | Kemayo: they already added that 'bossmod' like thing in TBC |
| 01:12.28 | Neya | But then, for druids a crushing blow isn't really that bad. |
| 01:12.29 | Kemayo | As you say, in practice any raid tank will be uncrushable for most of the time. But that "most" is important, and I like that they're removing some of the need for an arcane understanding of the hit table. |
| 01:12.29 | Voliand | I got 17k hp unbuffed and 25k armor, guess I shouldn't worry |
| 01:12.43 | Kemayo | Arrowmaster: This shows (a) how much I raid, and (b) how much I use the default UI. ;) |
| 01:12.54 | Voliand | had 20k hp a couple of raids... :> |
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| 01:13.01 | Arrowmaster | the problem is i dont know of anywhere that uses it besides heroic mec |
| 01:13.09 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 01:13.11 | Ackis | anyone on beta? |
| 01:13.17 | Voliand | everyone but me |
| 01:13.24 | NivFreak | blizzard's web page is rejecting my credit card when I try to take a trial account active |
| 01:13.25 | Arrowmaster | oh an ahune used it |
| 01:13.26 | Ackis | I need a summon to dalaran |
| 01:13.29 | NivFreak | in fact, 2 of my credit cards |
| 01:13.29 | Neya | 23k hp and 47% dodge on Supremus, happy I didn't have to bother about threat that try. |
| 01:13.45 | Ackis | NivFreak: PM your numbers and I'll try from my end ;) lolol |
| 01:13.48 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, what are you talking about |
| 01:13.49 | NivFreak | :P |
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| 01:14.09 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: the the raidwarningemote frame or whatever it is |
| 01:14.27 | Funkeh` | raid monster emote is used tons |
| 01:14.30 | Funkeh` | bigwigs blocks it |
| 01:14.46 | Funkeh` | and it's not what I call a boss mod |
| 01:14.50 | Funkeh` | and neither does blizz |
| 01:15.03 | Arrowmaster | not the normal emote but the one that shows in the center of the screen |
| 01:15.08 | Funkeh` | yes, I know |
| 01:15.28 | Arrowmaster | well before bigwigs started blocking it, i never saw it anywhere but heroic mech |
| 01:15.31 | Funkeh` | like twins, nightbane, akil'zon etc |
| 01:15.50 | Funkeh` | we started blocking it whilst karazhan was mainstream |
| 01:16.07 | Voliand | why block it? |
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| 01:16.23 | Funkeh` | because it's needles spam we usually hae a warning for? |
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| 01:16.40 | Voliand | ah yes if you replace it with something clearer |
| 01:19.20 | Funkeh` | my guess is we will get a little box next to the target frame with icons and maybe the clockwise cooldown count of abilities |
| 01:19.25 | Funkeh` | I dout it will be numerical |
| 01:20.12 | Voliand | is there an addon that gives you a bar of currently used raid icons on mobs, click the icon and it targets the mob marked with it? |
| 01:20.14 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79835 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 01:20.14 | CIA-55 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:20.14 | CIA-55 | - Make colours work |
| 01:20.14 | CIA-55 | - Fix a bug with the scroll window |
| 01:20.14 | CIA-55 | - Redo patterns (Thanks foxlit) |
| 01:20.15 | CIA-55 | - If you're on beta (horde PVP) can you send the first aid books to Shadowackis (or get me a summon to Dalaran) please |
| 01:21.02 | Funkeh` | you can't target mobs based on raid icon |
| 01:21.17 | Voliand | figured :( |
| 01:21.21 | Voliand | would be damn nice |
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| 01:21.44 | Voliand | can't it save a list of mobs you've marked and do it? |
| 01:22.06 | [dRaCo] | if you marked them, it'd prolly be possible, yeah |
| 01:22.07 | Voliand | proximo or what ever the pvp addon is named does something vaguely like that |
| 01:22.08 | Funkeh` | maybe |
| 01:22.20 | Funkeh` | but how frequently do you mark mobs that are all different names |
| 01:22.42 | [dRaCo] | proximo uses target <name> macros, though |
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| 01:22.56 | Voliand | yeah figured that also :( |
| 01:23.12 | Voliand | would be a very neat feature though |
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| 01:24.41 | Funkeh` | nights |
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| 01:36.20 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 01:36.26 | NivFreak | I think blizzard's payment system is down |
| 01:36.27 | NivFreak | failure |
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| 01:36.49 | selckin | anyone tried to install beta in wine? |
| 01:37.43 | NivFreak | nope, but I play release in wine ;) |
| 01:37.49 | NivFreak | at least some times |
| 01:38.02 | selckin | you ever have issues with the right click menus? |
| 01:38.14 | selckin | on like units, for inspect etc |
| 01:39.14 | NivFreak | not really |
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| 01:41.38 | Neo|Home | Voliand: but MagicTargets shows you the targets of the mobs. It's not as useful perhaps but it works |
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| 01:51.22 | Ackis | where are inscirption trainers? |
| 01:51.38 | selckin | don't think they are ingame yet? |
| 01:52.04 | Ackis | ahh ok |
| 01:52.45 | Arrowmaster | i think they are |
| 01:52.52 | Arrowmaster | but a lot of skills are missing |
| 01:53.11 | Voliand | what is it? |
| 01:53.28 | Voliand | all I got from various sites is that you make the scrolls that add a buff |
| 01:53.43 | Voliand | aka alchemy but not quite.... |
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| 01:55.58 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: do you know where? |
| 01:56.05 | Ackis | and are there any hunters on beta right now? |
| 01:56.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:57.13 | Voliand | you mean no hunter changes or no actual hunters? |
| 01:57.34 | Ackis | I want to know if Ackis Recipe List is needed for hunters now |
| 01:57.54 | Voliand | ? |
| 01:58.16 | Ackis | the mod has the ability to scan pet abilities and tell you which are missing and where to get them from |
| 01:59.00 | Neo|Home | that doesn't exist on beta though |
| 01:59.12 | Neo|Home | you no longer learn skills, they learn them themselves |
| 01:59.29 | sdouble | Your addon has become obsolete. |
| 01:59.32 | sdouble | =[ |
| 01:59.57 | Ackis | Neo|Home: yah that's what I've read, just want to make sure :) |
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| 02:00.21 | Kemayo | Ackis: Finally, you are free! Free from responding to people asking for updates! ;) |
| 02:00.25 | Voliand | sdouble: you say that as if it's a bad thing ;) |
| 02:00.33 | Kemayo | Speaking of which, hi ckk. |
| 02:00.48 | Voliand | mounts and pets being non items also rocks, though tabards should also be added... |
| 02:01.07 | Kemayo | I like that tokens seem to be non-items, too. |
| 02:01.12 | Voliand | ? |
| 02:01.14 | Ackis | agrees with Voliand |
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| 02:01.31 | Voliand | you mean pvp badges etc? |
| 02:01.43 | Kemayo | Badges, yes. |
| 02:01.47 | Voliand | Ackis: I got a million tabards... |
| 02:01.54 | Kemayo | Assuming wowinsider is actually *right* -- http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/27/token-system-discovered/ |
| 02:01.57 | Voliand | should be able to rightclick the slot and pick one imo |
| 02:02.00 | selckin | i got 1 tabard. |
| 02:02.04 | Ackis | Kemayo: it's live on beta now |
| 02:02.23 | Kemayo | Ackis: Nifty. Someday my beta key will arrive, and I too will know this. ;_; |
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| 02:02.32 | Voliand | Kemayo: wishful thinking |
| 02:03.02 | Ackis | only reason I'm in is because I bought tyrael |
| 02:03.12 | Voliand | ? |
| 02:03.25 | ckknight | hey all |
| 02:03.27 | ckknight | hey Kemayo |
| 02:04.05 | Voliand | blizz checked my account and saw my main and character since day 1 and only level 61+ is a feral druid mostly partaking in pvp, thus I'm forever barred from any future betas :) |
| 02:05.34 | selckin | whats the best way to get wotlk addons :\ |
| 02:06.02 | Voliand | selckin: wowi got a section I think |
| 02:06.08 | ckknight | selckin: bribe me |
| 02:06.24 | selckin | slips ckknight 5g |
| 02:06.38 | Voliand | I'm guessing a lot of addon devs don't want to put too much effort into porting atm, sounds like a lot of the api stuff isn't nailed down |
| 02:07.32 | Voliand | always fun repairing a ship that's changing shape while you hammer |
| 02:07.44 | NivFreak | so this is amusing |
| 02:07.54 | NivFreak | blizzard's online paid upgrade for trials seems to be broken |
| 02:08.01 | NivFreak | so I'm buying keys from gold farmers |
| 02:08.02 | NivFreak | hahah |
| 02:10.35 | selckin | you can't go from trial -> full without credit card either |
| 02:10.43 | selckin | gamecard :( |
| 02:11.30 | Arrowmaster | lmao at that wowinsider article |
| 02:11.45 | Arrowmaster | 'An enterprising and clever beta participant by the name of Xabora has discovered what form this treatment will take, by typing /tokens and hitting return.' |
| 02:11.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah like that couldnt be figured out by looking at the ui diff |
| 02:12.04 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:12.09 | Arrowmaster | and discovered there first |
| 02:12.29 | Arrowmaster | 'This is reminiscent of the way Achievements were first discovered to be in WoW, which was by someone in the alpha typing /achievements.' |
| 02:12.32 | Arrowmaster | again i call bullshit |
| 02:12.37 | Arrowmaster | we knew about it from ui diffs |
| 02:12.43 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:13.48 | Voliand | ui diffs? |
| 02:14.01 | Arrowmaster | wowcompares.com |
| 02:14.33 | Voliand | ah |
| 02:14.57 | Voliand | md5's the contents of the game folder after a patch is installed or something like that? |
| 02:15.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:15.17 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 02:15.18 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 02:15.31 | Arrowmaster | extract the ui after a patch |
| 02:15.34 | selckin | the ui is basicly just like any other addon |
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| 02:16.09 | Voliand | yeah I know |
| 02:22.53 | selckin | so many patches |
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| 02:40.01 | Voliand | I've seen a lot of references to druid's agility being "nerfed" but I have yet to see blue or details, anyone got a link? google is failing me atm |
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| 02:47.46 | orionshock | any new info on the new threat API's? |
| 02:52.06 | Ackis | "Are you mad at me hun?" "Do I have any reason to be?" "You're a girl, you don't need a reason." |
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| 02:53.23 | orionshock | ... |
| 02:53.40 | orionshock | you need more smooth Ackis... lots of it |
| 02:53.48 | Ackis | haha nah |
| 02:53.51 | Ackis | I'm blunt :P |
| 02:54.33 | Xinhuan | who wants to be my friend? |
| 02:54.43 | selckin | i'm your friend! |
| 02:55.01 | Xinhuan | pay for my zhevra! |
| 02:56.33 | selckin | my paladin isn't copied to beta yet :( |
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| 03:07.37 | Primer | What's currently the best way to make context menus, for example, if I shift-right click the map frame? |
| 03:07.50 | Primer | I've found DewDrop, but it seems that uses Ace2 |
| 03:10.15 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79836 10AckisRecipeList/ (6 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 03:10.15 | CIA-55 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:10.15 | CIA-55 | - Wrath compatibility complete |
| 03:10.15 | CIA-55 | - Added comments on what functions to nuke come WotLK |
| 03:10.15 | CIA-55 | - Added L["MissingFromDBWarning"] |
| 03:10.16 | CIA-55 | - Mod will now scan for the missing recipe spell ID when doing a scan (scan takes a while to do about 10 seconds for 10 recipes) so warning added just so users know what's going on. |
| 03:10.21 | CIA-55 | - Added first Enchanting recipes from wrath |
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| 03:17.14 | Elsia | primer: try http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_UIDropDownMenu |
| 03:21.44 | Primer | Elsia: thanks! |
| 03:22.21 | Elsia | I use these in recount, if you want to look/borrow coded up examples. It's not really harder to use than dewdrop |
| 03:22.45 | Xinhuan | can link him the thread |
| 03:22.46 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 03:22.52 | Elsia | ;) |
| 03:23.21 | Elsia | the wiki is slightly antiquated with the xml emphasis |
| 03:23.40 | Primer | I prefer to frame programatically anyhow |
| 03:23.51 | Primer | this will do just fine |
| 03:23.56 | Elsia | coolio |
| 03:29.49 | Primer | bah, I can't test it...my kid's playing on his toon |
| 03:31.43 | Primer | how do I reference a callback that's an object method? |
| 03:31.58 | Primer | func = ObjName:MethodName ? |
| 03:32.16 | Primer | I suppose I could just in-line it.. |
| 03:34.54 | CIA-55 | controlfreak: 03Tekkub 07master * r9474faf 10/ Locale.lua : Say it frenchie! Say "Chowdah!" |
| 03:35.12 | Elsia | primer: no, use ObjName.MethodName |
| 03:35.16 | Primer | ok |
| 03:38.51 | Ackis | anyone have a character in darnassus right now? lol |
| 03:42.03 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79837 10AckisRecipeList/ (AckisRecipeList.toc RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua): |
| 03:42.03 | CIA-55 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:42.03 | CIA-55 | - Fix ticket 37 |
| 03:42.03 | CIA-55 | - Remove whitespace from Alchemy database!!!! |
| 03:48.41 | CIA-55 | 03LordFarlander * r79838 10MiniPet/MiniPet.lua: |
| 03:48.41 | CIA-55 | MiniPet: |
| 03:48.42 | CIA-55 | - Fix some bad calls :p |
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| 03:51.13 | Primer | bah, guess I really need an example |
| 03:51.38 | Elsia | try gui_main.lua in Recount search for dropdown |
| 03:51.40 | Primer | I don't want to use an xml file, I just want to make a 2 option drop down with click events |
| 03:51.44 | Primer | ok, thanks |
| 03:54.13 | Primer | It seems that every example has a function to create the contents of the frame |
| 03:54.35 | Primer | I just want a static menu, no need to have a "function" |
| 03:54.55 | Odlaw | create a frame with 2 clickable buttons? |
| 03:55.03 | Odlaw | hide/show when you click it's parent button? |
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| 04:10.20 | Xinhuan | or primer u can fidn my tutorial htread on coding wowace forums ;p |
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| 04:14.35 | Aiiane | once he manages to translate your response, yes :P |
| 04:14.36 | Primer | can you throw me a bone? |
| 04:14.49 | Primer | like, some keywords...the URL? :) |
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| 04:15.14 | Voliand | throws a t-rex bone at Primer's skull |
| 04:16.24 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10892.msg172275#msg172275 ? |
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| 04:40.00 | Primer | Couldn't find region name 'DropDownMenuLeft' |
| 04:40.15 | Primer | seems something else needs to be set |
| 04:40.23 | Primer | or...perhaps I'm not at the correct URL? |
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| 04:41.23 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79839 10Collectinator/ (7 files): Collectinator: Initial import |
| 04:41.39 | Ackis | OH GOD NOT ANOTHER ONE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 04:41.52 | Elsia | er how do you get DropDownMenuLeft? |
| 04:43.13 | Primer | NFI |
| 04:43.21 | Primer | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=10892.msg172275#msg172275 <-- is what I'm looking at |
| 04:43.25 | Primer | seems very simple |
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| 04:46.13 | Primer | Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:665 DropDownList1:SetPoint(): Couldn't find region named 'DropDownMenuLeft' |
| 04:46.16 | Elsia | did you make sure that a parent frame WoWEquip_Frame is created somhow? |
| 04:46.17 | Primer | is the full error |
| 04:47.06 | Primer | well, placing it was gonna happen next, I want it relative to the cursor...I use WorldMapButton |
| 04:47.14 | Primer | perhaps UIParent to test? |
| 04:47.49 | Primer | Coding by the seat of my pants here |
| 04:47.59 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79840 10Collectinator/ (. externals.txt): |
| 04:47.59 | CIA-55 | Collectinator: |
| 04:47.59 | CIA-55 | - Setup some externals |
| 04:47.59 | CIA-55 | - Don't use this mod yet :P If you do, God will kill a kitten. But it's a WotLK only mod. |
| 04:48.07 | Elsia | not sure what happens if you parent it to UIParent but you can try |
| 04:48.09 | Primer | same thing with UIParent |
| 04:48.22 | Primer | I'll use a local frame |
| 04:49.07 | Primer | same thing |
| 04:50.14 | Elsia | you'll need something like UIDropDownMenu_SetAnchor(0, 0, Recount_FightDropDownMenu , oside, myframe, side) to set the anchor. doesn't seem to be in xinhuan's example. |
| 04:50.26 | Primer | ok |
| 04:50.39 | Xinhuan | oh there's 2 ways to do it ;p |
| 04:50.39 | Elsia | oside and side are just the typical frame anchor sides, myframe is the parent |
| 04:50.51 | Xinhuan | the setanchor stuff is if you want precise control |
| 04:50.58 | CIA-55 | 03scorpio0920 * r79841 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/Freywinn.lua: |
| 04:50.58 | CIA-55 | LittleWigs: |
| 04:50.58 | CIA-55 | - Fixed typo. |
| 04:51.08 | Xinhuan | otherwise the showuimenu() or soemthing function can pass in basic x,y offsets only |
| 04:51.29 | Primer | well, I have cursor x and y |
| 04:51.36 | Primer | I'd like to make it relative to the cursor |
| 04:52.48 | Primer | crickets... |
| 04:59.23 | Primer | looks for references... |
| 05:01.04 | Primer | the initialize function is never called |
| 05:02.36 | Elsia | did you try call the UIDropDownMenu_SetAnchor after everything is set up when you want to open the menu?? |
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| 05:03.58 | Elsia | oh and to open you have to call ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, Recount_BarDropDownMenu) |
| 05:04.16 | Primer | I did |
| 05:04.18 | Elsia | usually in some OnClick event |
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| 05:04.31 | Primer | I even passed it a bogus name to see if it'd error and it didn't |
| 05:05.04 | Elsia | so you first set up everything then toggle and you get no error? |
| 05:05.50 | Primer | correct |
| 05:05.56 | Primer | I have a print just before the toggle |
| 05:06.08 | Primer | the print happens, so presumably the toggle happens, but no error |
| 05:06.28 | Elsia | and you are sure that the anchor is such that the dropdown is visible? |
| 05:06.49 | Elsia | to be sure you can also call CloseDropDownMenus(1) just before the toggle to make sure it's an open event |
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| 05:10.05 | Primer | I'm going over it again |
| 05:10.17 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79842 10CNF/ (. embeds.xml externals.txt): |
| 05:10.17 | CIA-55 | CNF: |
| 05:10.17 | CIA-55 | - Fix externals |
| 05:10.36 | Primer | man, I wish I knew this better |
| 05:10.46 | Primer | I'm using an object property for the frame |
| 05:10.54 | Primer | should I just use a local variable? |
| 05:11.00 | Primer | and can I go: local foo |
| 05:11.14 | Primer | then: foo = createframe ... inside one of my object methods? |
| 05:15.53 | Groktar | finally |
| 05:15.59 | Groktar | we did kalec -> twins in one night |
| 05:16.01 | Groktar | first time ever |
| 05:16.20 | Diao | grats! |
| 05:16.39 | Diao | i'm actually leveling my alt again |
| 05:16.45 | Diao | after not touching it for like a full week |
| 05:16.46 | Diao | lol |
| 05:17.13 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79843 10Collectinator/ (. embeds.xml externals.txt): |
| 05:17.13 | CIA-55 | Collectinator: |
| 05:17.13 | CIA-55 | - Setup proper externals |
| 05:17.51 | Kemayo | This is pretty cool: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20588 |
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| 05:20.28 | Elsia | primer can you pastey what you have? |
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| 05:24.42 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79844 10Querier/ (. Querier.lua embeds.xml): |
| 05:24.42 | CIA-55 | Querier: |
| 05:24.42 | CIA-55 | - Update externals, I should start testing mods stand alone eh? |
| 05:25.45 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79845 10Querier/Querier.toc: |
| 05:25.45 | CIA-55 | Querier: |
| 05:25.45 | CIA-55 | - Increase version number (my bad) |
| 05:29.06 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79846 10CNF/CNF.toc: |
| 05:29.06 | CIA-55 | CNF: |
| 05:29.06 | CIA-55 | - Increase version number |
| 05:33.55 | Primer | heh, got caught up playing |
| 05:34.00 | Primer | guildy needed help |
| 05:34.09 | Primer | yeah, I'll paste some code, sec |
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| 05:39.02 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79847 10Querier/externals.txt: |
| 05:39.02 | CIA-55 | Querier: |
| 05:39.02 | CIA-55 | - Add file |
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| 05:42.53 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.08 | Primer | Elsia: http://sh.nu/p/24793 |
| 05:43.47 | Primer | look for TheDropDownMenu |
| 05:44.39 | orionshock | Monstrous Plaguebat |
| 05:44.41 | orionshock | ... |
| 05:44.51 | orionshock | http://johncfish.com/bggallery/otherchart/hextable.gif |
| 05:47.38 | Elsia | primer: try not have that variable be local |
| 05:48.31 | Primer | so...TheDropDownMenu = nil ? |
| 05:48.34 | Primer | globally? |
| 05:48.45 | Elsia | just drop that line local TheDropDownMenu |
| 05:48.58 | Primer | note the Print I have in GenerateMenu |
| 05:49.01 | Primer | that never happens |
| 05:49.26 | Elsia | does the toggle call happen? |
| 05:49.40 | Primer | well, the Print right before it does |
| 05:49.54 | CIA-55 | 03krage * r79848 10oUF_HealComm/oUF_HealComm.lua: oUF_HealComm: Updated to accomodate oUF change. |
| 05:50.08 | Elsia | did you remove the local? |
| 05:50.14 | Primer | but like I said, I can change the name of the frame to something bogus and no error is reported |
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| 05:50.17 | Primer | yes |
| 05:50.22 | Elsia | still nothing? |
| 05:50.27 | CIA-55 | 03digmouse * r79849 10Omen/Localization/zhCN.lua: |
| 05:50.27 | CIA-55 | Omen: |
| 05:50.27 | CIA-55 | -zhCN update |
| 05:50.27 | CIA-55 | -If you do translation, why not make sure u fully master your own language? |
| 05:50.33 | Elsia | next, hook it to a frame other than UIParent |
| 05:50.37 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 05:50.40 | Xinhuan | rofl commit |
| 05:50.42 | Primer | all I see is 'Map right clicked at...' printed |
| 05:50.48 | Primer | such as? |
| 05:50.55 | digmouse | noob translators pissed me off |
| 05:51.15 | Elsia | any really lightHUD.minimap maybe? |
| 05:51.22 | Elsia | f* |
| 05:51.34 | Comxx | can some help me i want to make a Battle ground addon that list the servers on the oppsite faction |
| 05:51.40 | digmouse | FlightHUD.minimap? |
| 05:51.42 | Primer | Elsia: well, I want to make it a menu over the map |
| 05:51.52 | Primer | I've used WorldMapButton too |
| 05:52.24 | Primer | I'm using the frame that I created for the HUD |
| 05:52.25 | Elsia | we are debugging, I'm just trying to figure out why exactly you are not getting the dropdown frame up, once it works you can hook it to any frame you want |
| 05:52.42 | Comxx | what api do i use to find the servers ? |
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| 05:53.25 | Primer | crap |
| 05:53.32 | Primer | there's a ; in one line |
| 05:53.33 | Primer | TheDropDownMenu.initialize = GenerateMenu; |
| 05:53.36 | CIA-55 | 03digmouse * r79850 10Omen/Localization/zhTW.lua: |
| 05:53.36 | CIA-55 | Omen: |
| 05:53.36 | CIA-55 | -minor zhTW fix |
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| 05:54.21 | Primer | heh |
| 05:55.01 | Primer | I don't get it |
| 05:55.12 | digmouse | someone is right, too many translators |
| 05:55.21 | Primer | GenerateMenu is never called |
| 05:55.44 | Elsia | remove the local for function GenerateMenu |
| 05:57.18 | Primer | ok |
| 05:58.02 | Primer | still nothing |
| 05:58.25 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:59.29 | Arrowmaster | remove the space |
| 06:00.06 | Primer | wait, got an error |
| 06:00.28 | Primer | what space? |
| 06:00.39 | Primer | bah, it was a stupid error |
| 06:01.40 | Primer | THERE IT IS! |
| 06:01.52 | Elsia | grats |
| 06:02.02 | Primer | well, it only popped up once |
| 06:04.27 | Elsia | put a CloseDropDownMenus(1) in front of the toggle to make sure it opens on every onclick |
| 06:04.43 | Primer | ahh cool |
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| 06:12.34 | ArPharazon | hey guys - anyone here using the "warcraft millionaire" gold guide ? |
| 06:13.23 | ArPharazon | is it legit, or just pure bullcrap like most other guides |
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| 06:16.32 | Xinhuan | its legit, but like most guides, its probably filled with 100% common sense |
| 06:16.33 | digmouse | ArPharazon: doing dailies is the most efficient gold way, legal and easy |
| 06:18.08 | Dashkal | dailies + farming :p I make more in an hour doing my farming route than I do in two doing dailies. Do both and... |
| 06:18.58 | winkiller | I hate farming |
| 06:19.14 | winkiller | I only do dailies for rep anyway. gold is just a sideproduct |
| 06:19.21 | ArPharazon | just curious about it - cos it seems unbelievable |
| 06:19.23 | winkiller | and I feel uncomfortly without 8k |
| 06:19.32 | ArPharazon | it took me ages to save up for my epic flyer |
| 06:19.43 | winkiller | I got 3 epic flappies |
| 06:19.48 | winkiller | and up to 8k again |
| 06:19.58 | ArPharazon | how in heck do u afford that - just daileis ? |
| 06:19.59 | winkiller | just from dailies |
| 06:20.13 | winkiller | 2* Exalted Ogri'la/Skyguard |
| 06:20.21 | winkiller | 1* Exalted Netherwing, 2*Exalted SSO |
| 06:20.34 | ArPharazon | ah wait - is this on 3 different toons, or same toon ? |
| 06:20.36 | winkiller | and some more revered each :P |
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| 06:20.47 | winkiller | those excalted on 2 toons |
| 06:20.48 | Xinhuan | so what i suggest - invest 5k gold in getting JC formulas and JC to 375 |
| 06:20.55 | Xinhuan | then buy mass adamantite ore (like 50 stacks a day) |
| 06:20.55 | winkiller | the 3 others are honored/revered |
| 06:20.58 | Xinhuan | prospect, and cut the gems |
| 06:21.00 | Xinhuan | and put it on AH |
| 06:21.04 | Xinhuan | you'll earn 1k gold easy |
| 06:21.06 | Xinhuan | everyday |
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| 06:21.15 | winkiller | depends on server. totally |
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| 06:21.28 | Xinhuan | works on almost all servers |
| 06:21.29 | winkiller | on mine the time for jc to make money is gone |
| 06:21.50 | Xinhuan | i still earn 500g a day easy ;p |
| 06:21.58 | Cheads | Xinhuan what gems to you cut? |
| 06:21.59 | ArPharazon | i have a little over 10k saved up now - but that took a lot of effort - so i dont really see how they manage to rake in 1k per day |
| 06:22.03 | Xinhuan | one of everything |
| 06:22.05 | winkiller | and 50stacks adam. is... 1k gold |
| 06:22.09 | Xinhuan | basically, whole AH is ine |
| 06:22.10 | Xinhuan | mine |
| 06:22.15 | winkiller | no way you'll sell enough gems to have 2k income |
| 06:22.18 | Xinhuan | and i have > 100k gold |
| 06:22.26 | Xinhuan | and i've spent over 50k gold this month |
| 06:22.31 | Cheads | heh |
| 06:22.34 | winkiller | wow |
| 06:22.35 | ArPharazon | holy shit |
| 06:22.40 | Xinhuan | of which about 20k is on ore? but the profit it like 30k returns |
| 06:22.42 | Cheads | I'm up a my new record of 3200gold |
| 06:22.53 | winkiller | I hate to play the AH - I hate to craft and sell :P |
| 06:22.59 | Xinhuan | its not even about playing the AH |
| 06:23.01 | winkiller | so I only do dailies and DE greens. |
| 06:23.02 | Xinhuan | its just pure stats |
| 06:23.03 | ArPharazon | have u got a link to where i can download that guide? |
| 06:23.10 | Xinhuan | buy the ore at 25g a stack, prospect at 24% chance to get a rare |
| 06:23.22 | Xinhuan | then avg the priec out of the 6 colors |
| 06:23.28 | Xinhuan | and you'll find its 20g profitper stack |
| 06:23.34 | winkiller | how much are flashiung ruby/talasite then on your server? cut(uncut? |
| 06:23.37 | Cheads | I just prospect and sell them uncut.. hmm |
| 06:23.38 | Xinhuan | so prospect 20 stacks a day, its 800g profit |
| 06:23.46 | Xinhuan | sell them cut always |
| 06:23.53 | Xinhuan | uncut living ruby islike 60g? cut ones are like 80g |
| 06:23.56 | Xinhuan | you double your profit |
| 06:24.13 | Cheads | I dont have any good recipes |
| 06:24.20 | Xinhuan | hence the "invest 5k gold" part |
| 06:24.24 | Cheads | only the trainer crap |
| 06:24.25 | Xinhuan | you need of buy every one of them |
| 06:24.30 | Xinhuan | you need to buy every one of them |
| 06:24.36 | Xinhuan | except maybe the crap 8 dodge one |
| 06:24.39 | winkiller | I fail to see the math :P 25g per adam. 25$ chance, that's 100g per rare gem |
| 06:24.51 | Xinhuan | 1 stack can prospect 4 times |
| 06:24.57 | winkiller | ah ok |
| 06:24.59 | Xinhuan | on avg its 23% or so per prospect |
| 06:25.08 | winkiller | yeah, might work out |
| 06:25.19 | winkiller | JC is the only prof I don't have |
| 06:25.26 | Cheads | I get around 40-50 gold on average per prospected adamantite stack(selling gems uncut) |
| 06:25.46 | winkiller | mhm, our AH is flooded with cheap gems |
| 06:25.48 | Xinhuan | you'll get 50% more cutting them |
| 06:25.50 | winkiller | too much time investment |
| 06:26.01 | Xinhuan | o_o i barely spend 30 min on AH everyday |
| 06:26.02 | Xinhuan | for 500g |
| 06:26.10 | winkiller | mhm |
| 06:26.25 | Cheads | do the green gems also sell? |
| 06:26.26 | winkiller | maybe I should snatch the girl's 375 JC and try |
| 06:26.33 | Cheads | uncommon gems even |
| 06:29.00 | ArPharazon | xinuan - have you got that warcraft millionaire guide? |
| 06:29.04 | Xinhuan | no |
| 06:29.13 | ArPharazon | ah so you just do your own thing then |
| 06:29.16 | digmouse | i trust no guids |
| 06:29.24 | digmouse | *guides |
| 06:29.50 | ArPharazon | i dont either, but i'm wondering if i'm missing some valuable tricks |
| 06:30.04 | digmouse | no such many tricks |
| 06:30.27 | digmouse | want gold? farm or do your normal trade ability |
| 06:31.05 | ArPharazon | i have plenty of gold already |
| 06:31.35 | digmouse | I feel safe when I have 3000 or more, enough for me |
| 06:31.37 | ArPharazon | just over 10k - but it took me ages to get that - lots of dailies every day, and some AH trading |
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| 06:33.29 | Cheads | Xinhuan also buy the BoE jc recipes for rings and necklaces? |
| 06:33.40 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 06:34.17 | Cheads | ok |
| 06:35.11 | digmouse | Investigation is a necessary move before earning more? |
| 06:35.22 | digmouse | i mean, no "?" |
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| 06:37.21 | Xinhuan | well wait which ones are u talking about? |
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| 06:41.21 | Cheads | generally about those world drop BoE jc recipes for rings and necklaces etc. |
| 06:41.31 | Cheads | or just focus on gem recipes? |
| 06:41.40 | Xinhuan | just gems |
| 06:41.44 | Xinhuan | nobody gets the rings/necks |
| 06:41.55 | Cheads | ok |
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| 06:42.25 | Cheads | quite an investment for the recipes, the rare ones are 200-500 each =) |
| 06:43.03 | Xinhuan | i did say 5k didn't i |
| 06:44.03 | Cheads | ok didn't see that |
| 06:44.23 | Cheads | ahhh see it now =) |
| 06:51.16 | Groktar | whee 165 haste now |
| 06:51.31 | Groktar | my resurrection is down to 9.05 seconds! |
| 06:52.00 | Groktar | i can oom myself so fast now |
| 06:52.01 | Groktar | lol |
| 06:53.28 | Diao | o-o |
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| 06:57.29 | Groktar | omg i'm dumb |
| 06:57.47 | Groktar | i was trying to figure out why the attachment thumbnails were each on a separate line on my forum |
| 06:57.57 | Groktar | i was searching through the stylesheet |
| 06:58.06 | Groktar | just saw the <div> and assumed that was it |
| 06:58.20 | Groktar | then i look again and there are <br /> tags |
| 06:58.21 | Groktar | sigh |
| 06:58.32 | Aiiane | ~fail Groktar |
| 06:58.33 | purl | Groktar: FAIL! |
| 06:58.40 | Groktar | stabs himself in the eye again |
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| 07:07.38 | Groktar | WHERE IS IT COMING FROM OMG |
| 07:10.31 | Groktar | what's the linux command to search for a certain phrase in files? |
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| 07:13.15 | orionshock | grep? |
| 07:13.22 | Groktar | ya |
| 07:13.29 | Diao | hmm |
| 07:13.31 | Groktar | more of a usage question |
| 07:13.33 | Diao | where's cncfanatics been lately |
| 07:13.44 | Diao | apparently the ouf module for lqh isn't working properly |
| 07:15.08 | Groktar | wow |
| 07:17.11 | Groktar | on top of it i can't remember what the port for ssh was |
| 07:17.33 | Diao | 22 by default |
| 07:17.38 | Groktar | yes, it's not default |
| 07:17.46 | Diao | oh |
| 07:19.09 | Groktar | guessed it |
| 07:19.12 | Groktar | 2222, of course |
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| 07:26.34 | Groktar | got it |
| 07:26.43 | Arrowmaster | pff shitty port to hide it on |
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| 07:26.52 | Arrowmaster | i hide my ssh on 443 |
| 07:26.59 | Groktar | ya |
| 07:27.07 | Groktar | my webhost's ssh, not mine |
| 07:27.24 | Arrowmaster | oh webhost |
| 07:27.30 | Arrowmaster | cant really hide it on 443 then |
| 07:27.36 | Groktar | and of course the <br /> isn't there |
| 07:27.41 | Groktar | wait, that's email, isn't it? |
| 07:27.50 | Arrowmaster | 443? |
| 07:27.51 | Diao | ? |
| 07:27.54 | Groktar | ya, isn't it? |
| 07:27.55 | Arrowmaster | its https |
| 07:27.57 | Groktar | o |
| 07:28.11 | Groktar | i thought it seemed similar to pop+ssl |
| 07:28.19 | Diao | yeah it's ssl |
| 07:28.49 | Diao | er |
| 07:28.53 | Diao | are the wow forums down? |
| 07:30.04 | Arrowmaster | if you hide ssh on 443 then you can still access it through fairly restrive proxy servers and it will just be identified as encrypted https traffic to basic tools |
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| 07:41.04 | Groktar | looks for a nail to shove into his other eye |
| 07:41.11 | Groktar | this should not be difficult |
| 07:41.12 | Groktar | :/ |
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| 07:49.05 | Groktar | i'm missing something |
| 07:49.32 | Aiiane | the point? |
| 07:49.35 | Aiiane | the target? |
| 07:49.40 | Aiiane | your mind? |
| 07:49.41 | Elkano | the brain? |
| 07:50.22 | Groktar | well, the html i expect the template to generate doesn't match the actual result |
| 07:50.34 | Fisker- | your mom |
| 07:50.35 | Fisker- | ? |
| 07:50.39 | Groktar | it looks like attachment thumbnails should clearly be in their own table |
| 07:50.41 | Groktar | but they're not |
| 07:51.01 | Aiiane | if i werent going to sleep |
| 07:51.04 | Aiiane | id offer to help |
| 07:51.05 | Aiiane | but i am |
| 07:51.16 | Aiiane | so continue to suffer <3 |
| 07:51.29 | Groktar | hehe |
| 07:51.37 | Fisker- | Elkano |
| 07:51.40 | Fisker- | i am superior |
| 07:51.48 | Groktar | i just can't believe how impossible it is to find 1 freaking br tag |
| 07:52.21 | Groktar | oh god |
| 07:52.38 | Groktar | yeah... |
| 07:54.00 | Groktar | that's because the br tag wasn't in the attachment |
| 07:54.04 | Groktar | it was in his freaking post |
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| 07:54.12 | Groktar | huh |
| 08:10.00 | Gibbonz|Work | wonder what the longer downtime (EU) was for last night... |
| 08:11.49 | Fisker- | it wasn't longer |
| 08:12.03 | Fisker- | well it was a bit longer :P |
| 08:12.12 | Fisker- | an hour longer |
| 08:12.17 | Gibbonz|Work | well, different at least ;p |
| 08:12.33 | Fisker- | I don't know why they moved it back to 24:00 |
| 08:14.04 | Gibbonz|Work | hmm? we got booted around 10pm (11pm game/paris time) |
| 08:14.15 | Fisker- | oh |
| 08:14.28 | Fisker- | was supposed to be from 24:00 CEST to 07:00 CEST |
| 08:15.37 | Gibbonz|Work | hehe guess they wanted an extra hour :) |
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| 08:17.30 | Gibbonz|Work | still, strange that they changed the time... 4-10 in the morning was fine already ;p |
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| 08:25.51 | Fisker- | slaps [Ammo] around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:26.01 | Fisker- | ~seen kaelten |
| 08:26.05 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 13h 27m 51s ago, saying: 'Dashkal: can you relog into the channel for me?'. |
| 08:27.39 | Fisker- | A place i can reach kaelten? :P |
| 08:27.53 | Xuerian | Where the hell is he anyway |
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| 08:30.03 | Gibbonz|Work | was doing brd without a tank quite successfully at the time, though 2 of our party were in the low 60's :P |
| 08:30.22 | charon | Fisker-: rough timezone estimates suggest he's in bed. |
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| 08:31.58 | Fisker- | i know that charon |
| 08:32.36 | charon | well then an appropriate answer might be: in your dreams. or in his dreams? either way is a bit scary. |
| 08:33.57 | Fisker- | i don't know |
| 08:34.00 | Fisker- | still think mine's scarier |
| 08:34.12 | Fisker- | like a couple of years back when i was dreaming of cow level runs in D2 |
| 08:34.18 | Fisker- | moo btw |
| 08:34.54 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 08:35.12 | Fisker- | moo? |
| 08:35.39 | Codayus | I can beat that. Sleep deprivation kicked in while I was crossing a street, and I saw a giant robot crossing the street a few hundred feet down the road, carrying a scaled up Stayr AUG. |
| 08:35.46 | Diao | hmm |
| 08:35.46 | Codayus | Creeped me out. |
| 08:35.51 | Diao | anybody else have trouble logging into wow forums? |
| 08:36.02 | Codayus | Perhaps a LITTLE too much counterstrike the night and day before... |
| 08:36.09 | Fisker- | us forums have had troubles for the past couple of hours |
| 08:36.10 | Diao | giant robots... |
| 08:36.18 | Diao | well i can load the forums fine.. just can't login to post :( |
| 08:36.22 | NeoTron | so we have a dkp bidding system (2nd highest bid +1). we killed brutallus and tank neck drops |
| 08:36.46 | Codayus | I was also playing a lot of metal fatigue at the time, which probably explains the robot. |
| 08:36.47 | NeoTron | tank a bids min, tank b bids more.. and later it becomes an isuse that tank a didn't win it because there was a "mixup" (collusion gone wrong I guess) |
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| 08:37.00 | Diao | lol collusion :( |
| 08:37.04 | Diao | always an issue with open bid |
| 08:37.07 | NeoTron | tanks do it to an extreme |
| 08:37.11 | NeoTron | it's closed bidding |
| 08:37.17 | Diao | oh |
| 08:37.25 | Codayus | Always an issue with non-fixed price. |
| 08:37.27 | Diao | well, it's an issue with any system where individuals set the price |
| 08:37.34 | NeoTron | Codayus: for tanks only in our case |
| 08:37.43 | NeoTron | well I don't care so much |
| 08:37.50 | NeoTron | what bugs me is that tank a was upset |
| 08:37.56 | NeoTron | and he is one of the top dkp holders |
| 08:38.09 | Codayus | Hey, it's not REAL loot drama until you spend 2 hours after the raid arguing about it in IF in a guild office meeting. |
| 08:38.11 | NeoTron | if you want the item fricking bid what you feel it's worth, don't bid 80 because you "expect" no one else to bid |
| 08:38.13 | Codayus | Been there, done that. :-/ |
| 08:38.50 | charon | laugh at him in public? evidently he was on the losing end |
| 08:38.50 | NeoTron | we only spent 20 minutes, with one of them leaving after af ew minutes |
| 08:38.50 | NeoTron | the one that left is a tank |
| 08:38.50 | NeoTron | and part of this dkp cartell :P |
| 08:39.00 | Codayus | To be fair, if he was a primary MT or something, it's not WILDLY implausible for OTs or people with lower attendence to routinely pass in his favor "for the good of the guild". |
| 08:39.09 | Codayus | Depends heavily on your loot system, raid rules, guild culture, etc. |
| 08:39.14 | NeoTron | two tanks are number 2 and 4 on DKP by wide margins |
| 08:39.32 | NeoTron | the guy who won it is primarily MT, the guy who lost it is pally/ot |
| 08:39.45 | NeoTron | he only bid 200 DKP |
| 08:39.46 | Codayus | Ah well, sucks2behim |
| 08:39.52 | NeoTron | the pally has 2700 dkp |
| 08:40.13 | Megalon | a case of complete personal failure than :P |
| 08:40.24 | Megalon | then :c |
| 08:40.27 | NeoTron | yep |
| 08:40.29 | NeoTron | clearly |
| 08:40.37 | NeoTron | what bugs me is it became an issue |
| 08:40.41 | Codayus | People sooo need to stress less overe loot. It's not healthy. |
| 08:40.44 | NeoTron | my PoV: he bid 80. he lost |
| 08:40.54 | Megalon | don't let it become an issue if you are a officer |
| 08:41.05 | NeoTron | tank leader PoV: there was a mixup.. but no collusion! |
| 08:41.24 | NeoTron | I should start asking people to tell me what their bid is |
| 08:41.34 | NeoTron | and whomever gives me the highest bid gets it for min bid |
| 08:41.44 | Codayus | My guild switched to fixed price a long time ago; doesn't remove collusion completely, but it makes it pretty damn hard to start drama over it. |
| 08:41.46 | NeoTron | "just equalizing with the tanks" |
| 08:42.09 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:42.16 | Diao | i created my dkp system on fixed price |
| 08:42.53 | NeoTron | I hate the "DE factor" of fixed dkp |
| 08:43.03 | Diao | what DE factor |
| 08:43.05 | NeoTron | and we've had bascially zero issue with bidding |
| 08:43.12 | Diao | we never DE loot unless it's not an upgrade for anyone |
| 08:43.15 | NeoTron | Diao: people don't take small upgrades or sidegrades |
| 08:43.20 | Diao | lol |
| 08:43.22 | NeoTron | because the fixed cost is too high |
| 08:43.24 | Diao | you have some strange people |
| 08:43.25 | NeoTron | dude, I've seen it |
| 08:43.28 | Codayus | We also decided against any sort of "buy it for void crystals" or "you can have it cheap to stop it rotting" stuff. If you get the item, you pay full price. Took a few weeks for people to get used to it, but after a while, people just bid if they'd use it... |
| 08:43.36 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:43.45 | Diao | we also have an offspec/alt gets it for free policy |
| 08:43.49 | Codayus | Solving the "DE problem" is, I think, a guild culture issue - not a loot policy issue. |
| 08:43.50 | Diao | but only if all mains pass |
| 08:43.51 | NeoTron | in another guild, I had been in there for 1 day and I get the dps robes from Naxxramas (on my healing priest) because no one wanted to spend the dkp |
| 08:44.09 | Diao | was thinking of possibly doing a nurfed style dkp |
| 08:44.15 | Diao | where each item is assigned a price |
| 08:44.18 | Diao | but you only pay the "upgrade" price |
| 08:44.30 | Diao | ie, if you have t5 and take t6, you pay the difference in cost |
| 08:44.32 | NeoTron | in a way I wish for just doing 10-man raiding in wotlk |
| 08:44.33 | Codayus | It's nice in theory, but... |
| 08:44.39 | NeoTron | so much easier. never needed any dkp system for that |
| 08:44.41 | Codayus | Upgrade prices are VERY hard to run. |
| 08:44.45 | Diao | but we ended up only doing fixed price |
| 08:44.51 | Diao | and we've had zero issue with DE |
| 08:44.53 | charon | Diao: doesn't that give the exact opposite incentive of what you want? |
| 08:45.07 | NeoTron | the smaller the upgade, the smaller the cost |
| 08:45.14 | Codayus | Frankly, at this point,loot council sounds pretty atttractive. |
| 08:45.25 | NeoTron | Codayus: I kind of agree. |
| 08:45.30 | NeoTron | just didn't have a good experience with it in the past |
| 08:45.38 | charon | yeah but you want the people who can get a huge upgrade out of it to buy the item |
| 08:45.39 | Diao | our dkp system is essentially loot council |
| 08:45.41 | NeoTron | we didn't run it well and also had no tracking |
| 08:45.41 | Diao | it's just transparent |
| 08:45.58 | charon | but that system would actually favour those who get a small upgrade |
| 08:46.06 | Diao | yeah, i dunno |
| 08:46.08 | Xinhuan | loot council is not a dkp system ;p |
| 08:46.12 | Diao | i know |
| 08:46.28 | Diao | but our loot distribution ends up being the same way i would've distributed as loot council |
| 08:46.40 | p3lim | is this the change in 3.0? http://pastey.net/93191 |
| 08:46.48 | charon | if _you_ would've distributed, it's not a council ;) |
| 08:46.48 | Diao | it's just "transparent" so people can't complain that i'm favoring certain people |
| 08:47.01 | Diao | loot master, council |
| 08:47.01 | Diao | whatever |
| 08:47.08 | Diao | i only have 2 officers |
| 08:47.12 | Diao | and they pretty much agree with me on everything lol |
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| 08:47.36 | NeoTron | Diao: out of curiosity how do you handle new memberS? |
| 08:47.40 | Megalon | lootcouncil is the only system that has a chance to be fair :P |
| 08:47.48 | Diao | we use modified zero sum |
| 08:47.53 | NeoTron | Megalon: it's also the system most likey to be the direct opposite |
| 08:48.00 | Diao | but with bonuses for being on time/first boss kills etc |
| 08:48.14 | Diao | and every month, i calculate how muhc "bonus" dkp was added into the system |
| 08:48.27 | Diao | remove it from every active member, since we hvae like 40-50 people who show up |
| 08:48.29 | Diao | but never at the same time |
| 08:48.38 | Diao | so new members start out right in the middle of the pack in dkp |
| 08:48.51 | Diao | pretty much everyone who joins gets a new piece of gear or two the first day they raid :p |
| 08:49.00 | Xinhuan | sounds unfair |
| 08:49.04 | NeoTron | where does the loot council part come in? |
| 08:49.19 | Diao | mainly on specific items |
| 08:49.27 | Diao | like warglaives, mounts, etc |
| 08:49.32 | Xinhuan | i don't see why new members should get loot over older ones |
| 08:49.33 | Diao | stuff that's rare/exceptional |
| 08:49.36 | Codayus | Megalon: I think, at the end of the day, no system will be perfectly fair. The REAL answer is pick a system which isn't GROSSLY unfair, and is easy to run, and train the guild not to stress... |
| 08:49.39 | Xinhuan | by starting in the middle |
| 08:49.50 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: because that is how fixed dkp works |
| 08:49.53 | Diao | well |
| 08:50.00 | Diao | it's more like |
| 08:50.03 | p3lim | is this the change in 3.0? http://pastey.net/93191 |
| 08:50.05 | Diao | we run farm raids and progression raids |
| 08:50.08 | Codayus | Xinhuan: That's normal in any zero sum system. Of course, "middle" is 0 DKP. |
| 08:50.12 | Diao | the newer members tend to get loot from farm raids |
| 08:50.25 | Diao | while the older members get their loot from progression raids, since the ones that show up consistently enough to be "high" on dkp |
| 08:50.30 | Diao | are always ahead of newer members |
| 08:50.34 | Diao | and the ones behind are the inconsistent members |
| 08:50.40 | Diao | the ones that show up maybe 50% or so |
| 08:50.51 | Diao | so we reward attendance over seniority |
| 08:51.17 | NeoTron | how do you handle low-demand items? |
| 08:51.19 | Diao | we have a few people who are extremely casual.. show up maybe once a month or so |
| 08:51.30 | Diao | low demand? |
| 08:51.50 | Diao | i'd need an example |
| 08:51.55 | NeoTron | like items someone miht perhaps use in a fight (like high spirit, mp5 or haste or whatever) but wouldn't use very much |
| 08:52.01 | NeoTron | like minor special sidegrade |
| 08:52.22 | Diao | if it's a special case item that won't be used for general purpose we pretty much loot council it |
| 08:52.28 | Diao | like if nobody wants it for a normal upgrade |
| 08:52.33 | Diao | but could still be useful |
| 08:52.38 | NeoTron | so you do fixed dkp bidding for items |
| 08:52.44 | Diao | we'll assign it to someone for 0 dkp |
| 08:52.46 | NeoTron | if no one wants it just loot council it out for free? |
| 08:52.53 | Diao | pretty much |
| 08:52.54 | elite3vil | seems odd. |
| 08:52.57 | NeoTron | seems smart |
| 08:53.07 | Diao | that way items don't get wasted |
| 08:53.12 | Diao | and people still get upgrades they want |
| 08:53.21 | NeoTron | I will push for a review of how we handle loot for wotlk |
| 08:53.40 | Codayus | Relation DKP is nifty, incidentally. |
| 08:53.50 | Codayus | Like FPZS without a few of the problems. |
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| 08:55.11 | Kemayo | I like my wife's guild's system. It's a simple "bid 1/2/3", where 1 is "want for off-spec", 2 is "want for main spec", and 3 is "OMG THAT IS A BEST-IN-SLOT ITEM FOR MY MAIN SPEC". Then minor council stuff to resolve ties. |
| 08:55.22 | Diao | lol |
| 08:55.41 | cncfanatics | Kemayo: nice :o |
| 08:55.43 | Diao | that's kind of what i do.. i just say in /ra and over vent "whisper me if you want this item for main spec" |
| 08:55.46 | Diao | and then i check dkp |
| 08:55.48 | Diao | if nobody whispers me |
| 08:55.56 | Diao | we ask for offspec whispers |
| 08:56.04 | Diao | and special usage |
| 08:56.11 | Kemayo | There isn't any dkp behind the bids, though. It's just a formalized set of descriptors for how much you want it. |
| 08:56.14 | Diao | then it gets councilled out if nobody wants it |
| 08:56.32 | Codayus | Kemayo: Sounds sane. |
| 08:56.42 | elite3vil | Kemayo: Sounds kinda like a mix between my old guilds dkp system, and the loot council the new guild I'm in does |
| 08:56.55 | elite3vil | We used to /rnd 1-1 for main spec, 2-2 for offspec |
| 08:57.03 | Diao | the only issue i had with loot council for a "main spec" type system is that people will always think you're favoring certain people over another unfairly |
| 08:57.18 | Diao | no matter how fair you're being :p |
| 08:57.39 | NeoTron | imho the main point of LC is to give out loot to best benefit the raid |
| 08:57.39 | Diao | cncfanatics- have you checked the EJ thread for LQH recently |
| 08:57.41 | NeoTron | not to be fair |
| 08:57.51 | Diao | yeah |
| 08:58.02 | NeoTron | problem is it's not an easy thing to do |
| 08:58.11 | NeoTron | and obviously less good ppl get less loot and get grumpy |
| 08:58.31 | Kemayo | A non-DKP or loot council system only works if everyone in your guild gets along, and there aren't any total dicks. But we'd like to believe that's the case. :) |
| 08:58.36 | Diao | lol |
| 08:59.16 | Codayus | some very formal dkp system encourage people to be dicks too... |
| 08:59.55 | Diao | yeah.. dkp hoarding for specific items |
| 08:59.57 | Diao | and such |
| 09:00.08 | cncfanatics | Diao: answered like yesterday |
| 09:00.46 | Diao | with regards to the oUF lagging behind? |
| 09:01.34 | cncfanatics | hmmm |
| 09:01.36 | cncfanatics | lets see the code |
| 09:01.51 | cncfanatics | ~seen haste |
| 09:01.52 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev (16h 50m 48s). Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 8h 9m 11s, last said: 'I still haven't given zsh a go'. |
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| 09:07.40 | cncfanatics | Diao: the only reason I can see is that oUF calls UnitHealth in another function then UNIT_HEALTH |
| 09:07.57 | Diao | ah |
| 09:08.14 | cncfanatics | could you possible check for me ? |
| 09:08.18 | cncfanatics | I'm kinda in a heroic atm |
| 09:08.23 | p3lim | cncfanatics: haste is probably sleeping |
| 09:08.33 | p3lim | still early where he lives |
| 09:08.37 | cncfanatics | kay |
| 09:09.09 | p3lim | or hes at work, try again in about... 5 hours |
| 09:09.58 | Arrowmaster | then entire bucket event system is kinda working against instanthealth/libquickhealth now |
| 09:10.22 | Arrowmaster | which could be why some are seeing different results |
| 09:10.32 | Arrowmaster | like some say grid is slower and other say its faster |
| 09:10.36 | cncfanatics | Diao: it does call it only in UNIT_HEALTH |
| 09:10.42 | Arrowmaster | afaik doesnt grid have a setting to adjust the update rate? |
| 09:10.49 | Diao | it does |
| 09:10.49 | pb_ee1 | it has. |
| 09:11.00 | pb_ee1 | s/has./does./ |
| 09:11.02 | Diao | everyone should set health update to highest priority though |
| 09:11.03 | pb_ee1 | ^^ |
| 09:11.07 | cncfanatics | Arrowmaster: I kinda trigger the function manualy, should get around the bucket ? |
| 09:11.11 | Arrowmaster | should probably inform anybody that says grid seems slower to check that |
| 09:11.19 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 09:11.30 | Arrowmaster | i would think that would |
| 09:11.40 | Lyn_ | mooooo |
| 09:11.49 | cncfanatics | GridStatusHealth:UpdateUnit(unitids[i]); is what I do |
| 09:12.27 | cncfanatics | either it throttles it internaly |
| 09:12.32 | cncfanatics | either there's something very weird going on |
| 09:13.18 | Arrowmaster | thats the problem when working with other peoples addons |
| 09:13.37 | Arrowmaster | you dont know exactly whats going on |
| 09:13.51 | Arrowmaster | which is why i still dont have deadened working correctly with aguf afaik |
| 09:14.26 | cncfanatics | ~seen pastamancer |
| 09:14.28 | purl | pastamancer <n=kyle@vostok.13th-floor.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17h 43m 52s ago, saying: '_rane: http://wowdev.org/wiki/index.php/WDB itemcache.wdb would be the place to start probably'. |
| 09:14.30 | cncfanatics | cursed timezones |
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| 09:15.08 | odt | !points 548 |
| 09:15.09 | Xinhuan | 548 arena points require 1660(5s), 1711(3s) and 1775(2s) team rating. |
| 09:15.10 | cncfanatics | and it doesn't seem to be isolated to quickhealth |
| 09:15.14 | cncfanatics | instanthealth has the exact same issues |
| 09:15.24 | cncfanatics | so its most probably the addons or something weird |
| 09:15.39 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 09:15.40 | Arrowmaster | instanthealth is obviously being hit by the bucketevents |
| 09:15.44 | cncfanatics | why would someone bucket a throttled event ? |
| 09:15.50 | cncfanatics | its ALREADY throttled so why bucket it ? |
| 09:16.22 | Arrowmaster | dont you remember |
| 09:16.37 | Arrowmaster | bucket events were created for stuff like UNIT_HEALTH |
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| 09:16.52 | cncfanatics | ah yea |
| 09:16.59 | cncfanatics | to group the 175895609 triggers into one function call |
| 09:17.26 | Arrowmaster | since you can take 40+ event calls when the entire raid takes damage at once, and make one function call |
| 09:18.38 | Arrowmaster | now to debate if im going to look into this now or start the continuation of the movie i was watching |
| 09:18.53 | cncfanatics | oooh |
| 09:18.54 | cncfanatics | I know why it is |
| 09:19.02 | Diao | yeah, grid status unit health |
| 09:19.05 | Diao | i have priority at 99 |
| 09:19.05 | cncfanatics | UNIT_HEALTH when used with a bucket will expect a table ? |
| 09:19.13 | cncfanatics | and we're passing a string |
| 09:19.19 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 09:19.37 | Arrowmaster | arg |
| 09:19.43 | Arrowmaster | i fucking hate windows automatic updates |
| 09:20.04 | Arrowmaster | using up 100% of my cpu just to automaticly check if theres any updates available |
| 09:20.10 | Diao | yeah |
| 09:20.13 | Diao | i disabled it |
| 09:20.23 | Diao | so i only manually run it when i hear about a needed update lol |
| 09:20.29 | Arrowmaster | i would but then i forget and dont update often enough |
| 09:20.32 | cncfanatics | this is weird though |
| 09:20.44 | cncfanatics | it DOES work, we confirmed that, it updates much more often then usual with quick_health |
| 09:20.52 | cncfanatics | so, it might not be table/string after all |
| 09:20.53 | cncfanatics | sigh |
| 09:21.24 | Diao | could layout have anything to do with it? or is all the health update code in the core addon? |
| 09:21.29 | Diao | i only tested it with oUF_Lily |
| 09:21.30 | cncfanatics | its in the core |
| 09:21.42 | cncfanatics | oUF/elements/health.lua |
| 09:23.03 | cncfanatics | should get all unitframe authors to look into it themselves |
| 09:23.03 | Arrowmaster | my copy of grid looks like its not bucketing UNIT_HEALTH at all |
| 09:23.50 | Arrowmaster | cncfanatics: how does your grid module work? |
| 09:25.27 | cncfanatics | changes the env of the UNIT_HEALTH FUN |
| 09:25.35 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 09:25.39 | Arrowmaster | of UNIT_HEALTH? |
| 09:25.55 | Arrowmaster | GridStatusHealth:UNIT_HEALTH? |
| 09:26.16 | cncfanatics | no |
| 09:26.20 | cncfanatics | of the func that calls UnitHealth |
| 09:26.27 | cncfanatics | whichever one that is |
| 09:26.46 | cncfanatics | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/Grid_QuickHealth/Grid_QuickHealth.lua |
| 09:27.08 | cncfanatics | changes the env of GridStatusHealth.UpdateUnit before calling it |
| 09:27.18 | cncfanatics | and sets it back to the old one after calling it |
| 09:27.30 | Diao | well, i'm off to bed |
| 09:27.47 | cncfanatics | g'night :p |
| 09:27.48 | Diao | i'll test ouf alongside grid tomorrow again |
| 09:27.52 | Diao | night :p |
| 09:28.22 | Arrowmaster | ugg |
| 09:28.34 | Arrowmaster | why is all this code in Grid_QuickHealth |
| 09:29.19 | cncfanatics | where else would it be ? |
| 09:29.24 | Arrowmaster | in the lib? |
| 09:29.40 | cncfanatics | it only caches the unitids that grid has in use |
| 09:29.46 | cncfanatics | would have to cache em all in the lib |
| 09:30.47 | cncfanatics | most efficient to do it in the module |
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| 09:36.05 | Arrowmaster | some of it looks ugly but it seems correct |
| 09:36.26 | Arrowmaster | the throttle has to be somewhere in the grid code |
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| 09:36.55 | Luthorhuss | morning! |
| 09:41.47 | cncfanatics | should ask pastamancer about it |
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| 10:07.52 | CIA-55 | -zhCN update |
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| 10:29.33 | Trell_ | I don't think the petbar's working in the beta branch of bt4 >_< |
| 10:30.43 | nevcairiel | possible =P |
| 10:31.03 | Trell_ | ah never mind |
| 10:31.10 | Trell_ | i dont seem to be getting a pet bar with the blizz bars |
| 10:31.18 | Trell_ | just for raising a ghoul |
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| 10:37.45 | ramoz | Anyone else having problems connecting to eu servers? |
| 10:38.10 | cladhaire | I get to "Connected" |
| 10:38.19 | ramoz | same |
| 10:38.21 | orionshock | i once had to roll on an EU server... was rather odd tbh |
| 10:38.24 | cladhaire | and can get into my realm |
| 10:38.28 | cladhaire | cancel connected |
| 10:38.31 | cladhaire | and choose your realm |
| 10:38.40 | ramoz | cant connect to any of the realms |
| 10:38.43 | cladhaire | Ravencrest seems down |
| 10:38.46 | cladhaire | Aerie Peak is up |
| 10:39.25 | ramoz | hum |
| 10:39.31 | ramoz | i could connect to one of my realms now |
| 10:39.39 | cladhaire | i need to get onto ravencrest =( |
| 10:39.55 | cladhaire | i'll do it later |
| 10:40.10 | ramoz | veknilash is down |
| 10:40.51 | ramoz | can connect to mazrigos |
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| 10:47.53 | Fisker- | haxes nevcairiel |
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| 10:54.18 | nevcairiel | giev working unit frames for wotlk! |
| 10:56.43 | the-golem | lol |
| 10:56.56 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:58.16 | nevcairiel | wonder if oUF works |
| 10:58.32 | orionshock | i want my beta key so i can fix up my addons as well, mostly guild craft. this new craft link is very very intruging... |
| 10:58.49 | p3lim | nevcairiel: Im pretty sure atleast the Aura element is broke |
| 10:58.52 | p3lim | n |
| 10:59.00 | Daemona | nevcairiel pitbull is working quite well sans the aura module |
| 10:59.13 | nevcairiel | not touching that |
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| 11:04.42 | Lyn_ | hm.. |
| 11:05.37 | starlon | I doubt any work. I hear secure templates changed a lot. |
| 11:06.51 | nevcairiel | none that matter for unit frames |
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| 11:14.12 | orionshock | anyone seen this new recruit-a-friend email? |
| 11:16.57 | Wobin | yeah |
| 11:19.04 | Fisker- | massive amounts of hate channeled towards you Wobin |
| 11:19.50 | Zyndrome | enrages |
| 11:20.26 | orionshock | prowls in a bush somewhere out of sight... |
| 11:20.44 | Zyndrome | my bro gave me his old phone, and after just a few minutes of use, it's a real peice of shit phone, for being a very modern one |
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| 11:33.42 | Fisker- | engages |
| 11:34.31 | Pneumatus | whats a good text editor to edit zhCN files without mangling the encoding? |
| 11:35.16 | Fisker- | wordpad |
| 11:35.33 | nevcairiel | anything that supports UTF8? |
| 11:35.39 | nevcairiel | notepad++ for example |
| 11:36.40 | Fisker- | nevcairiel ! |
| 11:36.44 | Fisker- | you have crossed me for the last time! |
| 11:36.47 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 11:36.59 | nevcairiel | not true |
| 11:37.13 | Fisker- | ok but you have crossed me again |
| 11:38.50 | Fisker- | i sure showed you |
| 11:38.55 | Fisker- | flexes |
| 11:39.17 | nevcairiel | also where is the alchemy trainer in northrend |
| 11:39.22 | Pneumatus | dalaran |
| 11:39.29 | Fisker- | Vengeance landing |
| 11:39.31 | Pneumatus | and he only has about 4 recipies at the moment |
| 11:39.35 | Fisker- | atleast for non-fags, lol |
| 11:39.36 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:39.46 | Fisker- | iTrol'd |
| 11:39.51 | nevcairiel | i found one in valgarde |
| 11:39.55 | nevcairiel | but he doesnt have the new stuff |
| 11:40.00 | nevcairiel | only up to 375 |
| 11:40.06 | Fisker- | EW ALLIANCE EWWW |
| 11:40.12 | Pneumatus | yeh, the only GM alch trainer is in dalaran |
| 11:40.19 | Pneumatus | for alliance at least |
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| 11:52.08 | ashb | what is it with ppl making everything local in their addons - makes it fucking impossible to extend |
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| 11:57.41 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79857 10ag_UnitFrames/: ag_UnitFrames: create wotlk branch |
| 11:57.54 | CIA-55 | 03pneumatus * r79858 10ClassLoot/ (ClassLoot.toc Locale-zhCN.lua): |
| 11:57.55 | CIA-55 | ClassLoot: |
| 11:57.55 | CIA-55 | - Adding zhCN translation |
| 11:58.59 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79859 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/: ag_UnitFrames: create branch of the Ace3 version for wotlk |
| 11:59.45 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79860 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Options/: ag_Options: branch options too |
| 12:00.26 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79861 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras/: ag_Extras: aaaand extras |
| 12:01.06 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79862 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_Extras/incomingheals/incoming.lua: ag_Extras: incomingheal module shuts down automatically if LibHealComm was not found |
| 12:03.53 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79863 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc libs/ modules/auras/auras.lua): |
| 12:03.53 | CIA-55 | ag_UnitFrames: first batch of fixes |
| 12:03.53 | CIA-55 | - fix auras |
| 12:03.53 | CIA-55 | - adjust .toc and externals |
| 12:05.13 | nevcairiel | finally nice unit frames again, phew :) |
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| 12:06.58 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: have you seen the development version on wowi? |
| 12:07.06 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 12:07.10 | Pneumatus | good-o |
| 12:07.11 | nevcairiel | but its the Ace2 version iirc |
| 12:07.18 | Pneumatus | ah yeh, probably |
| 12:08.56 | Pneumatus | hmm, i should find a replacemed for chronometer that looks as nice but uses GUIDs really |
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| 12:12.54 | Pneumatus | amagad, winmerge cocks up merging utf-8 |
| 12:14.24 | Megalon | nevcairiel: <3 :o |
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| 12:20.26 | chexsum | wtb beta key email |
| 12:20.52 | Pneumatus | holy moley, textpad finally suports utf-8/unicode |
| 12:21.10 | chexsum | scite > textpad |
| 12:23.13 | Josh_Borke | vim > * :-D |
| 12:24.06 | Pneumatus | so anyway, is there such an addon that adds instances/zones to your LFG tool that you are too high to go to? |
| 12:32.21 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79864 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.lua modules/powerbar/powerbar.lua): |
| 12:32.21 | CIA-55 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 12:32.21 | CIA-55 | - add support for runic power |
| 12:32.21 | CIA-55 | - remove MobHealth integration and always use the return values of UnitHealth |
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| 12:36.22 | Daemona | nevcairiel does that mean agUF work with auras on ptr with that branch`? |
| 12:36.29 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 12:36.43 | nevcairiel | trivial fix, tbh |
| 12:36.48 | Daemona | *powers up the svn client* |
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| 12:37.44 | nevcairiel | i was getting sick of the default unit frames |
| 12:39.03 | Daemona | gargl default connecting to svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk is NOT clever -.- |
| 12:39.03 | Daemona | loading the index is ... slow |
| 12:43.47 | Daemona | powerbars for aguf throws an error nevc ;) |
| 12:48.57 | Kirkburn | Loading /branches/ is slow enough :P |
| 12:49.30 | Daemona | ;) |
| 12:49.43 | Daemona | http://www.mogulus.com/daemona_live -> streaming Halls of stone |
| 12:49.47 | Kirkburn | Might it be sensible to have a WotLK addon forum? |
| 12:50.23 | Daemona | would be suficient to have a thread listing working addons and source, which is covered by official forums already? |
| 12:50.25 | Daemona | dunno |
| 12:50.39 | clad|away | whats the standard mark for sheep? |
| 12:51.13 | Kirkburn | I suppose, but it's not a particularly friendly format (plus you can't exactly link to all the Ace SVN stuff) |
| 12:51.29 | kagaro | cladhaire: thats a guilg to guild kinda thing we use moon (primary), diamond (secondary) |
| 12:51.33 | cladhaire | k |
| 12:51.34 | Kirkburn | cladhaire, wool. |
| 12:53.56 | selckin | on our realm in 5mans star is usually sheep |
| 12:54.45 | cladhaire | sap is? |
| 12:54.47 | cladhaire | condom? |
| 12:54.47 | ArPharazon | its moon on our realm :P |
| 12:54.54 | ArPharazon | sap is star |
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| 12:55.09 | sacarasc | moon on my realm for sheep |
| 12:55.11 | ArPharazon | diamond = banish / succubus :P |
| 12:55.24 | selckin | omg they made a talent named dirge |
| 12:55.27 | selckin | now it'll never die |
| 12:55.34 | Pneumatus | star on my realm for sheep |
| 12:55.58 | sb | we have some guild here where: star = first target, condom = 2nd target, skull + cross = sheep |
| 12:56.16 | sacarasc | weird |
| 12:56.18 | selckin | yea in raids star = first target |
| 12:56.21 | Pneumatus | usually we have skull then cross for the killing order, then star and moon for CC targets |
| 12:56.22 | selckin | in 5 mans they use skull |
| 12:56.29 | Pneumatus | in 5man at least |
| 12:56.43 | sb | Pneumatus: yes.. pretty obvious, skull = kill :p |
| 12:57.02 | Kirkburn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Raid_Target_Icon ... it's almost exactly as you describe :) |
| 12:57.12 | Kirkburn | Specifically, http://www.wowwiki.com/Raid_Target_Icon#An_Example_Targeting_Convention |
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| 12:58.22 | Kirkburn | I wonder which came first, the wiki, or the convention :P |
| 12:58.42 | Pneumatus | lol wowwiki "squiggly brackets" |
| 12:59.07 | durcyn | yeah, everybody knows they're curly braces. |
| 12:59.15 | ArPharazon | that convention is used on my realm |
| 12:59.16 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 12:59.18 | Kirkburn | Will edit |
| 12:59.32 | Pkekyo| | ooh, coughing blood...awesome |
| 12:59.38 | Pneumatus | or just braces |
| 13:00.01 | Pneumatus | there are no other kind of braces other than "squiggly" ones |
| 13:00.08 | Pneumatus | or curly, if you will |
| 13:00.29 | ArPharazon | "braces" |
| 13:00.30 | Kirkburn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Braces ... so it is |
| 13:00.45 | durcyn | Wikipedia Hath Spoken. |
| 13:00.49 | ArPharazon | wikipedia knows all |
| 13:01.03 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 13:01.07 | Wobin | sure there are |
| 13:01.09 | Wobin | braces |
| 13:01.12 | Wobin | aka suspenders |
| 13:01.13 | durcyn | god, i can imagine the pedantic circle jerks that go on over THAT argument |
| 13:01.13 | Pneumatus | god knows how brackets got called square either, as there are no other type of brackets either |
| 13:01.38 | Pneumatus | unless you insist on calling chevrons angle brackets |
| 13:02.00 | Wobin | I call them greaterthan and lessthan |
| 13:02.08 | Wobin | or angled brackets |
| 13:02.18 | Wobin | chevron is too... forn |
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| 13:02.32 | durcyn | i thought chevron implied upwards orientation, like a caret |
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| 13:02.44 | Wobin | also |
| 13:03.08 | Kirkburn | Only cause of the car brand, I bet |
| 13:03.24 | Daemona | nevcairiel aguf powerbars needs a fix for runic power ;) |
| 13:03.28 | Kirkburn | (although that is downwards) |
| 13:03.46 | durcyn | military rank insignia, kirkburn |
| 13:03.53 | Kirkburn | Ah, yes |
| 13:03.55 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevron |
| 13:03.57 | nevcairiel | Daemona: i dunno, i just added the event and hoped it works |
| 13:04.01 | Wobin | wikipedia has spoken |
| 13:04.28 | Daemona | jump on my stream, 2nd from bottom should be the deathknight in party but its the priest? ^^ |
| 13:04.29 | Fisker- | oh u nevcairiel |
| 13:04.31 | Pneumatus | contradictorypedia |
| 13:04.32 | Daemona | something is not working there ;) |
| 13:04.33 | Pneumatus | more like |
| 13:04.46 | Wobin | okay |
| 13:04.52 | Wobin | contradictorypedia has spoken =P |
| 13:05.04 | nevcairiel | what stream? |
| 13:05.11 | nevcairiel | oh well i'll just hop on my DK |
| 13:05.26 | Daemona | http://www.mogulus.com/daemona_live -> streaming Halls of stone |
| 13:05.39 | Kirkburn | hops on the stream and does the bad thang |
| 13:06.09 | Pneumatus | i went to halls of stone last night and emoraged at getting loads of loot i cant equip |
| 13:06.13 | Pneumatus | well, not quite |
| 13:06.15 | Kirkburn | As fun as the whole "TV tuner" thing is, it's rather overdone |
| 13:07.20 | Kirkburn | Daemona, so btw, no stream :P |
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| 13:09.15 | nevcairiel | Daemona: oh yeah probably lacks class coloring for DKs |
| 13:09.17 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 13:09.21 | nevcairiel | whats their color anyway? |
| 13:09.27 | nevcairiel | this red thingy, eh? |
| 13:09.27 | Pneumatus | red-ish |
| 13:09.32 | Daemona | some lavendel thingy |
| 13:09.43 | Kirkburn | Lavendar? Not quite |
| 13:10.03 | Kirkburn | Wrong end of the rainbow :P |
| 13:10.06 | Pneumatus | more like brick red |
| 13:10.18 | Kirkburn | Firebrick! |
| 13:10.23 | Wobin | like DRIED BLOOD |
| 13:10.41 | Stanzilla | 0.77, 0.12, 0.23 < that |
| 13:10.44 | Kirkburn | yum |
| 13:10.59 | Kirkburn | mentally converts those numbers |
| 13:11.07 | Kirkburn | Oh yes, that red |
| 13:11.39 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 13:13.04 | Daemona | out of curiosity, how fluid is the stream? ;) |
| 13:13.11 | Zhinjio | G'morning, worthies. |
| 13:13.20 | Kirkburn | Good when your PC isn't freeze framing :) |
| 13:13.46 | Daemona | my ingame fps tells me 40 fps, streaming at fixed 10fps |
| 13:14.11 | Kirkburn | oooh, task manager |
| 13:14.13 | Daemona | at 75% cpu load |
| 13:14.39 | Kirkburn | It's pretty good - couple of moments when it goes jumpy, but mostly good |
| 13:14.54 | Kirkburn | Y'know, I feel like a voyeur now |
| 13:15.30 | Daemona | hmm guess its my crappy upstream then |
| 13:15.45 | Daemona | running 3.4ghz overclocked dual core with 4gb ram and a 8800gts |
| 13:15.46 | Kirkburn | I'm seeing way too many rogues with twin blades on beta |
| 13:15.50 | Kirkburn | It's ... depressing |
| 13:15.53 | Daemona | downscaling 1680x1050 to some smaller |
| 13:16.09 | Kirkburn | Unless I'm just seeing you all the time |
| 13:16.38 | Kirkburn | omg, it's c'thun's thingy |
| 13:16.48 | Kirkburn | The base he spawns out of |
| 13:17.00 | Pneumatus | thats because they got the guild keys |
| 13:17.11 | Pneumatus | rogues with twinblades and amani war bears are common as much |
| 13:17.13 | Daemona | there are no official guild beta invites out yet |
| 13:17.13 | Pneumatus | *muck |
| 13:17.30 | Wobin | unofficial, however? |
| 13:17.37 | Kirkburn | Apparently all the obsessive rogues went ot BlizzCon and WWI :P |
| 13:18.03 | Kirkburn | Uh, dedicated. I meant dedicated. |
| 13:18.18 | Daemona | someone in the guild knows someone that knows vaneck in RL ;) |
| 13:18.22 | Stanzilla | Autorun ftw :P |
| 13:18.24 | Kirkburn | Dude, look at your WoW screen |
| 13:18.28 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 13:19.02 | Kirkburn | Daemona, y'know - it might actually be you I've been seeing. What's your char name? |
| 13:20.04 | Daemona | youve got like ONE guess kirkburn |
| 13:20.11 | sb | lol :) |
| 13:20.11 | Wobin | ... Fred! |
| 13:20.25 | Kirkburn | Wobin, no, that's MY name |
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| 13:20.30 | Kirkburn | Seriously. |
| 13:20.34 | Wobin | oh yeah |
| 13:20.38 | Kirkburn | My gnome death knight is called Fred. |
| 13:20.54 | Josh_Borke | is that from wotlk? |
| 13:21.09 | Kirkburn | Wobin: teh proof - http://www.wowwiki.com/WoWWiki:WotLK_beta_contacts :P |
| 13:21.21 | Kirkburn | Josh_Borke, is what? |
| 13:22.04 | Kirkburn | Daemona, well, if I see you, I'll be sure to give you an inappropriate emote. |
| 13:22.14 | Daemona | ./silly |
| 13:22.24 | thul | hmm |
| 13:22.25 | thul | i want beta key |
| 13:23.06 | sb | thul: same here :p |
| 13:23.57 | Daedals | blizz is slow |
| 13:24.36 | thul | I want dkpower! |
| 13:24.39 | Josh_Borke | Daemona: care to show me the calendar? ^_^ |
| 13:24.42 | thul | and roguepower. |
| 13:25.01 | Josh_Borke | that's cool, thanks |
| 13:25.27 | Josh_Borke | i'm pretty excited about that new calendar |
| 13:25.39 | Kirkburn | Is there a keyboard shortcut to it? My minimap addon hides the icon |
| 13:25.59 | Daemona | anything else Josh_Borke ? |
| 13:26.26 | Kirkburn | Is Halls of Stone the highest lvl instance in atm? |
| 13:26.56 | Pneumatus | yup |
| 13:27.00 | Pneumatus | 77-79 bosses |
| 13:27.09 | Pneumatus | 78-80 loot |
| 13:27.14 | Kirkburn | nice |
| 13:27.23 | Kirkburn | (if only I ran instances) |
| 13:27.28 | Daemona | doesnt look like there is a shortcut for the calendar |
| 13:27.38 | Kirkburn | Daemona, okay, thanks anyway :) |
| 13:27.38 | Daemona | @ Kirkburn |
| 13:28.03 | Pneumatus | no doubt there will be a CalendarFu that opens it at some point :> |
| 13:28.04 | Kirkburn | What's that rep you almost have levelling? |
| 13:28.12 | Kirkburn | Pneumatus, lol |
| 13:29.40 | Daemona | hmm what repuations? |
| 13:29.52 | Pneumatus | im exalted with valiance expedition |
| 13:29.54 | Kirkburn | Your rep bar is almost full |
| 13:30.04 | Daemona | shattered sun ;) |
| 13:30.12 | Kirkburn | ... |
| 13:30.33 | Daemona | cant disable it |
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| 13:30.39 | renchap | Daemona: eu or us beta ? |
| 13:30.46 | Daemona | the faction interface is default hiding the exalted faction ^^ |
| 13:30.49 | Daemona | renchap eu |
| 13:30.56 | Kirkburn | Whoever would want to play on US beta? :P |
| 13:31.11 | jy__ | :) |
| 13:31.16 | Josh_Borke | Daemona: no, that was it, thanks :-) |
| 13:31.28 | Kirkburn | All the cool people are on EU |
| 13:31.32 | Daedals | yea :D |
| 13:31.34 | Daemona | gotta push my sporregar ... its the only not exalted bzrning crusad faction |
| 13:31.37 | Daedals | at least will be :D |
| 13:32.11 | Daedals | if they havent lost the keys |
| 13:32.36 | renchap | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Sylvanas&n=Manã |
| 13:32.41 | renchap | a friend |
| 13:33.04 | Daemona | oh my... i really got achievements for 140 and 125 quests done ^^ |
| 13:33.45 | Kirkburn | I'd be close on Howling Fjord if two quests weren't broken atm |
| 13:33.56 | Daemona | i just do quests and dont turn in atm |
| 13:34.01 | Daemona | level cap anyway |
| 13:34.02 | Kirkburn | Boreann Tundra I seem to be missing a bunch somehow |
| 13:34.09 | Pneumatus | borean tundra alliance side at least is missing loads |
| 13:34.10 | Daemona | guess i head for sholazar, just for looking at it ,) |
| 13:34.12 | Pneumatus | about 15-20 |
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| 13:34.20 | Kirkburn | Pneumatus, yeah about that |
| 13:34.21 | Daemona | borean as horde is great |
| 13:34.31 | Pneumatus | sholazar is also missing quests |
| 13:34.38 | Daemona | you pick up all quests and when you are done it sends you to the next hub |
| 13:34.44 | Pneumatus | ans zul'drak may be missing quests, but the middle of 2 long chains are bugged |
| 13:34.53 | Daemona | i never had to run back a long way or my quest log was full |
| 13:35.02 | Daemona | thats what makes a good zone design in my mind |
| 13:35.16 | Kirkburn | Indeed |
| 13:35.29 | Kirkburn | The whole quest hub design is really well done in Wrath |
| 13:35.40 | Daedals | !!!! stop that I'm going grazy! |
| 13:35.46 | Pneumatus | dont quest in zul'drak then |
| 13:35.53 | Daedals | !!! |
| 13:35.53 | Pneumatus | you basically need a flying mount to retain your sanity |
| 13:36.00 | Daedals | you're killing me! |
| 13:36.04 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 13:36.22 | Kirkburn | Pneumatus, 74 and only just leaving Howling Fjord |
| 13:36.38 | Kirkburn | So, looks like I can skip :P |
| 13:36.50 | Pneumatus | yeh, i did 70-72 in BT, 72-74 in HF |
| 13:36.57 | nevcairiel | i started in HF |
| 13:37.00 | Kirkburn | That's /exactly/ what I did :P |
| 13:37.00 | nevcairiel | and still 70 |
| 13:37.02 | nevcairiel | *cry* |
| 13:37.02 | Daedals | I must /part and return when Blizzard sends the key batch |
| 13:37.05 | Pneumatus | 74-76 in dragonblight |
| 13:37.13 | Pneumatus | and then dinged 77 in the middle of grizzly hills |
| 13:37.15 | Kirkburn | pats Daedals |
| 13:37.22 | *** part/#wowace Daedals (n=Daedals@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff73c100-9.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:37.24 | Daemona | http://www.mogulus.com/daemona_live -> gonna do some misc questing in Sholazar Basin |
| 13:37.24 | nevcairiel | you guys have way too much time |
| 13:37.34 | *** join/#wowace Daedals (n=Daedals@dsl-kpobrasgw1-ff73c100-9.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:37.39 | Daemona | semester only starts at sept. 1 ;) |
| 13:37.50 | Pneumatus | done all 5 instaces multiple times now |
| 13:38.00 | nevcairiel | get a job! =P |
| 13:38.07 | Daemona | i did have ;) |
| 13:38.13 | Daemona | oh great |
| 13:38.14 | Pneumatus | wheres the fun in taht |
| 13:38.28 | Daemona | flying from dalaran to sholazar sends you over icecrown ... |
| 13:38.36 | Daemona | BLIZZARD BIG NONO HUNTERS MARK |
| 13:38.39 | Daemona | port to warsong hold |
| 13:38.40 | Daemona | THX |
| 13:38.43 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 13:38.52 | Pneumatus | fly to dragonblight first :> |
| 13:38.52 | nevcairiel | owned in the face |
| 13:39.11 | Kirkburn | lol |
| 13:39.23 | ag` | I have killed Arthas |
| 13:39.29 | ag` | so you can quit it now guys |
| 13:39.39 | Josh_Borke | ag`: war III doesn't count :-P |
| 13:39.41 | Wobin | oh thank god |
| 13:39.46 | Pneumatus | i took the lich king down to 10%! |
| 13:39.47 | ag` | fawk Josh_Borke :( |
| 13:39.47 | Wobin | We can all stop playing now |
| 13:39.48 | Josh_Borke | ~lart Wobin |
| 13:39.48 | purl | throws Wobin's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 13:39.48 | Daemona | i do the daily quest in coldara first then :/ |
| 13:39.55 | Wobin | you bastard |
| 13:39.57 | Daemona | ~counter Josh_Borke |
| 13:40.00 | Josh_Borke | Wobin: you gief splut |
| 13:40.17 | Josh_Borke | those mountains look much nicer than in classic or tbc |
| 13:40.23 | Wobin | I don't think anyone even knows what splut is anymore =P |
| 13:40.26 | nevcairiel | ag`: your text-string-system-thingy in the Ace3 branch fails, cannot get it to smoothly update my mana/energy values like the default ui does =( |
| 13:40.31 | charon | QOTD: <nevcairiel> get a job! =P | <Daemona> i did have ;) |
| 13:40.35 | Wobin | night all |
| 13:40.40 | Josh_Borke | wobin: nn |
| 13:40.47 | ag` | hmm nevcairiel, smoothly how? |
| 13:40.58 | Fisker- | strangles nevcairiel |
| 13:41.04 | nevcairiel | the default UI does a OnUpdate to update mana/energy |
| 13:41.22 | Josh_Borke | damn bear |
| 13:41.26 | ag` | It does? |
| 13:41.29 | Lyn_ | p3lim, are you there? |
| 13:41.30 | ag` | it doesn't use events? |
| 13:41.37 | nevcairiel | ag`: since 3.0 it does |
| 13:41.39 | nevcairiel | but only for yourself |
| 13:41.47 | p3lim | Lyn_: Im in kara, but yeah im here |
| 13:41.49 | p3lim | Sup? |
| 13:41.49 | nevcairiel | so you have a smooth energy bar |
| 13:42.00 | ag` | ah |
| 13:42.05 | Lyn_ | p3lim, how does ouf truncate names? i don't see anything about it |
| 13:42.12 | Lyn_ | and it does |
| 13:42.15 | ag` | well that wouldn't be hard to make it do |
| 13:42.15 | p3lim | :sub |
| 13:42.20 | Lyn_ | where? |
| 13:42.45 | p3lim | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 13:43.01 | Lyn_ | i dont mean where in lua, i mean where does ouf do that? in layout or in core? |
| 13:43.14 | nevcairiel | ag`: the statusbar itself was easy to fix, the text however not |
| 13:43.16 | p3lim | core ofcourse |
| 13:43.19 | Lyn_ | oO; |
| 13:43.25 | ag` | nevcairiel I know how to fix it |
| 13:44.08 | p3lim | strsub(name, 0, 4) |
| 13:44.14 | p3lim | layout ofcourse* |
| 13:44.20 | Lyn_ | thanks |
| 13:44.29 | p3lim | that line right there trunkates down to 4 chars |
| 13:45.47 | Lyn_ | amusing, cause in my layout there isnt any sub but it truncates... but thanks, goin on deep search now |
| 13:46.12 | ag` | now if my beta key would just come |
| 13:49.28 | CIA-55 | 03nevcairiel 07Ace3-WotLK * r79865 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.lua modules/powerbar/powerbar.lua): ag_UnitFrames: fix death knight stuff |
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| 13:49.34 | nevcairiel | Daemona: that should hopefully fix it |
| 13:49.40 | nevcairiel | (works on my own DK) |
| 13:49.42 | Daemona | gimme a sec to svnupdate |
| 13:50.10 | nevcairiel | however the runes themself still need some place in the UF |
| 13:50.15 | nevcairiel | they just sit in their default place |
| 13:50.17 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 13:50.48 | nevcairiel | but thats only a issue if you play a DK yourself =P |
| 13:51.35 | ag` | a DK rune bar is needed in place of the power bar, isn't it? |
| 13:52.02 | nevcairiel | no |
| 13:52.06 | nevcairiel | you need both |
| 13:52.12 | nevcairiel | DKs have Runic Power |
| 13:52.20 | nevcairiel | 0-100 or so |
| 13:52.23 | nevcairiel | plus the 6 Runes |
| 13:52.42 | ag` | ah |
| 13:52.43 | nevcairiel | You get Runic Power alot like rage |
| 13:52.46 | nevcairiel | by doing dmg etc |
| 13:52.57 | ag` | yeah, so the power bar can just handle that |
| 13:53.04 | ag` | needs a rune bar module then |
| 13:54.15 | cladhaire | by using runes, specifically |
| 13:55.44 | Bruners | is there any videos out of DK gameplay ? |
| 13:56.37 | cladhaire | plenty |
| 13:56.48 | ag` | I think there's a live stream somewhere :P |
| 13:56.58 | Daemona | Bruners my GM did one, gimme a second to search the guild forum ;) |
| 13:57.32 | cladhaire | your google-fu is non-existent |
| 13:57.32 | cladhaire | http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=death+knight+gameplay+video&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 13:58.29 | Zyndrome | http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Deathknight#tab=Videos |
| 14:02.24 | p3lim | Lyn_: Let me know if you give up making your UFs in oUF, I can do it for you :) |
| 14:02.45 | Lyn_ | p3lim, haha, atm it works =) |
| 14:06.15 | Industrial | p3lim: Lyn_ doing it would be more fun, right? And you can always ask haste :p |
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| 14:06.40 | p3lim | Industrial: Im just very keen on the layout, thats all |
| 14:07.02 | Lyn_ | and I am an oUF noob tryin' to replicate my PB ufs in ouf x) |
| 14:07.03 | Lyn_ | :P |
| 14:07.15 | Industrial | and haste is in #wowuidev :p |
| 14:07.27 | Lyn_ | good point :P |
| 14:07.28 | p3lim | oUF_P3lim is a PitBull-to-oUF transform actually |
| 14:08.01 | Pneumatus | am i the only one that doesnt like funky unit frames and am happy with the simplicity of simpleUnitFrames: < |
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| 14:08.14 | durcyn | to each their own, Pneumatus |
| 14:08.28 | p3lim | when im leveling i sometimes prefer simpleUnitFrames, yes |
| 14:08.51 | p3lim | mostly cause I only start leveling after major content updates (expansions) and I dont want addons nagging my backhead |
| 14:09.04 | ag` | Well Pneumatus I like simplicity, and my problem with the normal blizz unit frames are that there's too much bling on them |
| 14:09.18 | nevcairiel | p3lim: thats what beta and PTR are for, doh |
| 14:09.18 | Industrial | like a pirtrait... |
| 14:09.26 | p3lim | nevcairiel: still :p |
| 14:09.31 | Pneumatus | 3 bars and a circular portrait = too much bling? o.O |
| 14:09.32 | Industrial | and a portrait |
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| 14:09.36 | p3lim | addon fluff is for max level |
| 14:09.39 | Lyn_ | hrm.. |
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| 14:09.45 | Industrial | p3lim: says you. |
| 14:09.46 | durcyn | eh, the stupid gold frame is ugly. |
| 14:10.07 | ag` | yeah, that's what I mean, it is kinda ugly and blingy |
| 14:10.26 | ag` | while not doing much at all :P |
| 14:10.45 | Lyn_ | only problem i have atm is editing party frames :< |
| 14:10.49 | durcyn | is the deadline for wowi's goofy addon thing up yet? someone needs to write a unit frame 'spinners' addon |
| 14:10.51 | Pneumatus | the only thing in the default interface i dont really like is the cast bar |
| 14:11.02 | p3lim | unit:find("party") ? :) |
| 14:11.12 | Lyn_ | mh.. |
| 14:11.36 | Lyn_ | I think this would be too easy :P |
| 14:11.36 | Josh_Borke | to each his own :-) |
| 14:11.51 | Josh_Borke | i personally like fading bar updates, i think it's nice |
| 14:12.06 | p3lim | I like that too, shame oUF doesnt provide it |
| 14:12.22 | Josh_Borke | but to some it is a form of bling and fluff |
| 14:12.30 | Josh_Borke | well, in fact, it IS a form of bling and fluff :-D |
| 14:12.39 | p3lim | eyecandy ftw? |
| 14:12.47 | p3lim | minimalistic eyecandy* |
| 14:12.56 | p3lim | like lyn's UF's |
| 14:12.58 | Industrial | id rather just see it drop instantly |
| 14:13.06 | Industrial | its distracting |
| 14:13.25 | p3lim | I havent had it in a good while so... |
| 14:13.42 | p3lim | Been using oUF more or less since haste made it many years ago |
| 14:13.42 | Josh_Borke | Industrial: that's why i like mine to drop but have a background smooth transition :-D |
| 14:14.10 | Lyn_ | whats with my ufs? |
| 14:14.15 | p3lim | hawt! |
| 14:14.15 | Industrial | im poking at ouf atm |
| 14:14.21 | Industrial | Lyn_: screenshots, we needs them |
| 14:14.28 | Lyn_ | www.deponie.org/ui/097.jpg |
| 14:14.31 | p3lim | Industrial: didnt you make your own framework? |
| 14:14.32 | Lyn_ | @ Industrial |
| 14:14.38 | Industrial | yes, I did |
| 14:14.44 | Industrial | about 4 times actually |
| 14:14.46 | Industrial | :P |
| 14:14.51 | p3lim | lol |
| 14:14.56 | p3lim | what happened to em? |
| 14:15.07 | Industrial | nothing, still works fine |
| 14:15.46 | p3lim | you released em? |
| 14:15.49 | p3lim | it* |
| 14:16.07 | Groktar | holy shit @ this app |
| 14:16.12 | Lyn_ | mehh.. |
| 14:16.16 | Groktar | i think i may move it to a public folder |
| 14:16.16 | Groktar | Progression with Impulse means the ability to take criticism during raids, how do you handle it? Can you recall a previous experience?: |
| 14:16.17 | Groktar | if u criticise me in a raid i will fucking find you in real life and u will wish u were never born, example: ilusion he told me i need to trap square, i found him on myspace after searching all day and i saved up from working at goodwill and flew to his azn house and buttfucked him raw in the night like a bodybuilding bull-dike hunchback, then piledrivered him off his little-tikes car bed and spit in his tight butt. |
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| 14:16.54 | durcyn | o |
| 14:17.05 | Daemona | o.O |
| 14:17.11 | Industrial | he needs "special" help |
| 14:17.27 | Industrial | care, really :| diaf |
| 14:17.29 | Groktar | http://guild-impulse.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2955 |
| 14:17.43 | Groktar | lol, we'll probably ginvite him |
| 14:17.51 | Groktar | if he's even the tiniest bit serious |
| 14:18.03 | Groktar | we have no hunters |
| 14:18.04 | Lyn_ | p3lim, you didnt have party frames in your layout? or am i blind? |
| 14:18.12 | ag` | say hi to Spadage and tell him he sucks :D |
| 14:18.32 | Groktar | i don't have party frames. i just use grid for 5 mans |
| 14:18.55 | Industrial | Groktar: I wouldn'nt take retards for progressions sake |
| 14:18.59 | Industrial | fuckem |
| 14:19.02 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:19.13 | Industrial | nice people only in mah guildz |
| 14:19.20 | Groktar | we know who he is |
| 14:19.24 | Lyn_ | :x |
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| 14:20.32 | Josh_Borke | "i dont go afk because when i have to shit i just think of the flasks ticking away and i just shit my pants, then when my roomate asks me why it smells so bad i tell him im farting, then after raid i just go straight to bed and when i wake up i have to rip the dried shit out of my asshair and i just throw it behind my bed and my eyes water from the pain." |
| 14:20.34 | Josh_Borke | lol |
| 14:20.49 | Pneumatus | ex-member with emorage im guessing |
| 14:21.07 | Groktar | nah, never been in our guild |
| 14:21.27 | nevcairiel | you have crazy people o.O |
| 14:21.40 | Industrial | lets leave it at freedom of speech, I'd have deleted the thread instantly. |
| 14:22.05 | Groktar | funnier to make it public |
| 14:22.20 | Groktar | i'll keel whoever deletes it |
| 14:22.42 | Groktar | anyone know anything about ret pallies? |
| 14:23.48 | Lyn_ | does if(not UnitIsConnected(unit)) then .. work? |
| 14:24.57 | Industrial | if not UnitIsConnected(unit) then end would suffice :) |
| 14:25.14 | Lyn_ | ah okay thx |
| 14:25.22 | Lyn_ | ok, looks better now.. |
| 14:25.42 | Lyn_ | is there a way in ouf to show myself in party? |
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| 14:26.17 | p3lim | attributes to party |
| 14:26.22 | p3lim | showPlayer |
| 14:26.26 | CIA-55 | 03next96 * r79866 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ARLLocals-koKR.lua: |
| 14:26.26 | CIA-55 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:26.26 | CIA-55 | - Update locale koKR |
| 14:26.30 | Lyn_ | thx |
| 14:26.41 | Pneumatus | i love applications that read "i left because of the decisions of the officers" when they really mean "i emo rage quitted because i didnt get on the guild-first kill of xxx because i only sign up for raids once in a blue moon" |
| 14:27.02 | Lyn_ | uh, awesome |
| 14:27.10 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: errm that are guilds with leaders that are total ****wads |
| 14:28.01 | Groktar | we'll give most anyone a chance |
| 14:28.38 | KriLL3 | back in the BWL days I had 10 points in feral (after innervate was made a non talent) and awesome healing gear, the idiot of a GM said I couldn't go on the second raid we killed nefarian (I was on all wipefests before and on the first kill) but his shadow priest friend in greens and BG rep blues could (shadow priest back then were terrible at dps) |
| 14:29.17 | Industrial | quitting a guild because you cant make a first kill makes YOU the idiot |
| 14:29.25 | KriLL3 | the random selection system we had said it was my turn, but the GM overruled that to get his shadow priest buddy in the raid... |
| 14:29.39 | KriLL3 | Industrial: huh? I did do the first kill |
| 14:29.54 | Industrial | i mean debating wether you should ahve gone or not |
| 14:29.59 | Groktar | i hated systems for deciding who gets into raids |
| 14:30.03 | Industrial | being in a guild is a social thing |
| 14:30.14 | Groktar | better to go by who is needed/who isn't bad |
| 14:30.18 | Industrial | talks everything out on vent |
| 14:30.37 | KriLL3 | getting kicked from your spot because the douche of a GM wanted his useless shadowpriest buddy in the raid is a-ok by you? |
| 14:30.41 | Industrial | if someone else wants to go and i have lewt fine go ill pug it who cares :p |
| 14:30.53 | KriLL3 | the same GM that said I wasn't allowed to bid on chestpiece of malorne |
| 14:31.01 | KriLL3 | or what ever that leather item was named |
| 14:31.13 | Industrial | KriLL3: luckily I have a GM who is fair and nice |
| 14:31.16 | Industrial | and we dont do DKP |
| 14:31.35 | Industrial | we distribute loots based on who needs it at that time and just roll |
| 14:31.39 | Industrial | noone ever whines |
| 14:31.43 | KriLL3 | Industrial: just saying, all GMs aren't bastions of reason or fair |
| 14:31.48 | fewyn | sounds like loot council |
| 14:31.53 | fewyn | i don't like loot council |
| 14:32.00 | Industrial | "loot council" ? |
| 14:32.19 | Industrial | in vent: needers roll, highest wins the end :| |
| 14:32.20 | Pneumatus | loot council invariably ends up as a popularity contest |
| 14:32.22 | KriLL3 | if you leave a guild raving about the leadership being poor you're not automatically some kind of anti-social reject |
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| 14:33.10 | Industrial | no, but whining because you didnt get your lewtz is sad |
| 14:33.14 | Industrial | its a game |
| 14:33.32 | Industrial | and someone else got it, and its still benefiting the team |
| 14:33.42 | Industrial | who cares, you get it next run |
| 14:33.43 | Industrial | :p |
| 14:34.16 | fewyn | Yea like the time nefarion's tear dropped and it went to a holy priest because of loot council because they wanted it for the expansion and he quit 2 weeks later |
| 14:34.33 | fewyn | is still sore over that |
| 14:34.38 | Industrial | what is loot council |
| 14:34.53 | Groktar | Industrial: what if they give your t6 gloves/helm to a warlock in greens who quits as soon as he gets 8/8, and then you never do another hyjal |
| 14:34.53 | fewyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/Loot_Council |
| 14:35.39 | Industrial | Groktar: he wouldnt get it unless he had raider status, which means he's been raiding for a few months |
| 14:35.43 | Pneumatus | loot council is heavily reliant on people not being biased towards friends/long-term members |
| 14:35.56 | Industrial | Groktar: and noone can ever help it if someone decides to quite |
| 14:35.57 | fewyn | which is impossible |
| 14:35.58 | Industrial | -e |
| 14:36.10 | KriLL3 | my original raiding guild I did MC and BWL with was led (note the was) by 2 danish bothers, that for some odd reason didn't speak an understandable word of english nor could spell, they both insisted on being in all raids and they both invited personal friends of theirs even if said friend wasn't in the guild to tag along and even get gear even when people in the guild with dkp wanted it |
| 14:36.13 | fewyn | everyone is biased |
| 14:36.20 | fewyn | don't lie, you know you are |
| 14:36.32 | Pneumatus | ive seen it work in the past, when purely the upgrades are considered, and the person who gains the most gets the item |
| 14:36.39 | KriLL3 | they also gave their buddy the components for that legendary sword, forgot the name, a holy paladin |
| 14:36.46 | thul | boooooring |
| 14:37.01 | fewyn | quel'sharar? |
| 14:37.04 | fewyn | or something like that |
| 14:37.09 | Arrowmaster | thunderfury |
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| 14:37.18 | fewyn | thunderfury isn't a sword! |
| 14:37.18 | KriLL3 | yeah thunderfury |
| 14:37.23 | KriLL3 | polearm? |
| 14:37.27 | fewyn | mace i thought |
| 14:37.28 | KriLL3 | dunno what it is |
| 14:37.33 | Pneumatus | its a sword |
| 14:37.36 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 14:37.39 | Industrial | fewyn: just give it to the person that benefits the most... |
| 14:37.41 | fewyn | i am confusing it with something then |
| 14:37.46 | KriLL3 | one handed sword |
| 14:37.51 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19019 |
| 14:37.57 | durcyn | fewyn: you're thinking sulfuras |
| 14:38.01 | Industrial | fewyn: if you cant make a decision wither have them link their current items |
| 14:38.07 | Industrial | fewyn: or do a /roll and let luck decide |
| 14:38.10 | Pneumatus | sulfuras were common as much compared to TF |
| 14:38.21 | Pneumatus | s/much/muck/ |
| 14:38.50 | fewyn | ah yes sulfuras was what i was thinking of |
| 14:38.51 | Industrial | TF used to be mainhand tho |
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| 14:40.48 | Lyn_ | my head aches |
| 14:40.54 | KriLL3 | I'm just trying to point out that all GMs are humans and all humans were made equally... |
| 14:41.00 | KriLL3 | flawed |
| 14:41.08 | Industrial | I'm saying that /roll doesnt lie |
| 14:41.10 | Industrial | ever |
| 14:41.34 | fewyn | only if someone "accidently" master loots the item to the wrong person |
| 14:41.38 | cncfanatics | ~seen haste |
| 14:41.44 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev (22h 30m 40s). Has said a total of 17 messages. Is idling for 13h 49m 3s, last said: 'I still haven't given zsh a go'. |
| 14:42.00 | Industrial | then you are in a shit guild case closed? |
| 14:42.16 | Pneumatus | my guild doesnt even use master-looter |
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| 14:42.45 | Industrial | mine does to prevent accidental needs :p |
| 14:42.55 | KriLL3 | Industrial: I was in that guild until I got fed up, when I did I took more than half of the members with me to another one |
| 14:42.57 | Pneumatus | youd only ever need by accident once. |
| 14:43.41 | KriLL3 | doesn't the game prevent you from needing a lot of items you can't make use of? |
| 14:43.53 | KriLL3 | doesn't protect you from all situations like that but should limit em |
| 14:44.04 | Pneumatus | I NEED THAT FOR ENCHANTING KK?? |
| 14:44.11 | KriLL3 | lol |
| 14:44.28 | KriLL3 | I had that with the feral bracers on that MC boss |
| 14:44.33 | KriLL3 | dissenchant?! |
| 14:44.34 | Pneumatus | same situation as divs in dungeon groups that 'need' gems because they are JCs |
| 14:44.38 | KriLL3 | *NEED ROLL* |
| 14:44.45 | KriLL3 | didn't even wait for a reply |
| 14:45.02 | KriLL3 | I rolled need and rolled higher and they asked me wtf I was doing |
| 14:45.25 | Industrial | so unfair :P I've never had this |
| 14:45.51 | Industrial | if I see something like that happen I kick them instantly if I can |
| 14:46.07 | KriLL3 | the GMs were the ones asking wtf I was doing =P |
| 14:46.30 | Industrial | the gm's should know what gear you have |
| 14:46.39 | KriLL3 | they considered all loot that wasn't usable in PVE at the time completely worthless and should be sharded |
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| 14:46.58 | cncfanatics | anyone on the maggy server ? |
| 14:47.01 | cncfanatics | can't seem to get my char list from it |
| 14:47.10 | KriLL3 | dps plate, feral leather, all of it sharded without asking :> |
| 14:47.24 | Lyn_ | p3lim, how do i format the health text for party? Unit == party .. unit:find party... UnitInParty() doesnt work -.- |
| 14:48.28 | p3lim | if(unit:find("party")) then |
| 14:48.35 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: you should have left sooner |
| 14:48.39 | p3lim | should work atleast, cant check atm |
| 14:48.41 | p3lim | tanking |
| 14:48.49 | fewyn | i would kill them KriLL3 |
| 14:48.53 | fewyn | is a bear tank |
| 14:49.07 | KriLL3 | fewyn: well feral wasn't viable in pve back then |
| 14:49.11 | thul | beer tank? |
| 14:49.12 | Arrowmaster | hmm 'douchebag' isnt censored on the wow forums |
| 14:49.13 | fewyn | yes it was |
| 14:49.23 | fewyn | I was a bear tank in ZG |
| 14:49.24 | KriLL3 | and pvp was some strange thing no one has ever heard of |
| 14:49.38 | KriLL3 | fewyn: wasn't ZG added after the druid changes? |
| 14:49.43 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 14:49.46 | fewyn | nope |
| 14:49.50 | Arrowmaster | ZG was perty early |
| 14:50.04 | durcyn | ferals were okay at 60, if the player wasn't a moron |
| 14:50.13 | durcyn | but hey, that's true of any class at any time to be honest |
| 14:50.14 | Arrowmaster | less than a year after launch i think |
| 14:50.17 | KriLL3 | anyway the only way to raid at that time was to be full resto, feral might have been a viable tank in actuality but not in the mind of people |
| 14:50.26 | fewyn | exactly |
| 14:50.36 | fewyn | i had to do a lot of convincing |
| 14:50.43 | Arrowmaster | since i started playing like 6 months after launch and my first raid was ZG |
| 14:50.50 | KriLL3 | no shield and no plate? not a tank! |
| 14:50.57 | Pneumatus | my first raid was BRD |
| 14:51.01 | thul | can DK tank any good at all? |
| 14:51.07 | Pneumatus | no, they suck |
| 14:51.09 | fewyn | supposedly |
| 14:51.09 | KriLL3 | thul: not yet |
| 14:51.15 | durcyn | Pneumatus: 40-man UBRS imo |
| 14:51.16 | Arrowmaster | BRD doesnt count |
| 14:51.27 | Pneumatus | you couldnt take 40 people into ubrs :P |
| 14:51.30 | fewyn | i want my beta key :( |
| 14:51.31 | thul | my first raid was orgrimmar |
| 14:51.32 | Arrowmaster | yes you could |
| 14:51.32 | thul | :-P |
| 14:51.36 | durcyn | Pneumatus: buh? |
| 14:51.46 | KriLL3 | blizz is adding abilities that add a couple of seconds of near dmg immunity to heal em up but it just seems they're short of being sustainable |
| 14:51.47 | fewyn | Pneumatus yes you could |
| 14:51.59 | Pneumatus | oh, fair enough, i cant say i ever tried to get more than 20 in there tho |
| 14:52.07 | Arrowmaster | couldnt by the time i got to 60 though |
| 14:52.22 | fewyn | Pneumatus used to be the only way to get into BWL very early on |
| 14:52.32 | fewyn | before they added the teleporter |
| 14:52.36 | Pneumatus | ahh |
| 14:52.44 | Arrowmaster | it was 15 max once they frist limited it |
| 14:52.51 | Pneumatus | but that was BRD surely? |
| 14:52.53 | fewyn | same with MC you had to go through BRD |
| 14:53.00 | fewyn | no brd is MC |
| 14:53.07 | fewyn | brs is BWL |
| 14:53.19 | KriLL3 | it was a mess that's what it was |
| 14:53.33 | KriLL3 | all endgame content at the same place more or less |
| 14:53.38 | fewyn | Yep |
| 14:53.48 | KriLL3 | was interesting on pvp servers |
| 14:54.01 | KriLL3 | had the teleporters camped every weekend |
| 14:54.04 | Pneumatus | hide inside ubrs instance :> |
| 14:54.12 | KriLL3 | I remember that |
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| 14:54.58 | KriLL3 | sitting there in my bird/tree looking gear being a mediocre healer with innervate and motw being my 2 saving graces... |
| 14:55.20 | KriLL3 | and only slow cast big heals being viable mana wise |
| 14:55.26 | Pneumatus | i didn't start raiding until around november 2005 though, so teleporters and BWL were already in |
| 14:55.38 | KriLL3 | I raided before that |
| 14:55.44 | fewyn | same |
| 14:55.46 | KriLL3 | not much but some |
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| 14:56.02 | fewyn | i can't wait to see naxx again in the expansion tho |
| 14:56.11 | KriLL3 | it's being added in? |
| 14:56.18 | fewyn | it's the karazhan of wotlk |
| 14:56.20 | cncfanatics | KriLL3: they announced that over a year ago |
| 14:56.26 | cncfanatics | a little more then karazhan |
| 14:56.31 | KriLL3 | I quit after the third kill of nefarian |
| 14:56.33 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 14:56.33 | fewyn | well yea |
| 14:56.43 | fewyn | it's the opening raid instance |
| 14:56.43 | KriLL3 | I didn't do naxx aq etc |
| 14:56.45 | fewyn | is what i meant |
| 14:57.03 | fewyn | aq40 was a pain in the ass |
| 14:57.10 | KriLL3 | I went full feral and pvp :) |
| 14:57.26 | KriLL3 | got lieutenant commander, and that's without mangle, maim etc =P |
| 14:57.56 | KriLL3 | or a guild |
| 14:58.18 | Pneumatus | i only got up to twin emps in aq40 :< |
| 14:59.03 | KriLL3 | from what I heard at the time AQ was insane^inf |
| 14:59.12 | fewyn | those where the days when i raided 7 days a week |
| 14:59.12 | Arrowmaster | my guild didnt do aq40 but i went with other guilds |
| 14:59.14 | p3lim | Lyn_: if(string.sub(unit, 0, 4) == "party") then |
| 14:59.16 | KriLL3 | you more or less had to wipe in there long enough for everyone to have most of the gear inside to beat it |
| 14:59.23 | Arrowmaster | huhu corpse runs without a mount sucked =( |
| 14:59.27 | p3lim | that one should work |
| 14:59.43 | Pneumatus | when aq40 was released and there was no craftable nature res gear it was insane |
| 15:00.03 | fewyn | i'm down to 3 days a week raiding now, going to pick back up a bigger raid schedule probably soon when classes start again for most people |
| 15:00.13 | ckknight | p3lim: lua is 1-based, not 0-based |
| 15:00.16 | Arrowmaster | the good guilds had been farming green dragons since they were added though |
| 15:00.29 | p3lim | ckknight: it works atleast |
| 15:00.40 | Arrowmaster | p3lim: no it doesnt |
| 15:00.51 | p3lim | Arrowmaster: I just tested it tho |
| 15:00.54 | Pneumatus | one guild had total domination on the green dragons on our realm, no one else could get a look in |
| 15:01.05 | ckknight | lua> unit = "partypet3"; return unit:sub(0, 4) |
| 15:01.06 | lua_bot | ckknight: part |
| 15:01.07 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.sub("party1", 0, 4) == "party") |
| 15:01.08 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '==' |
| 15:01.11 | ckknight | not party. |
| 15:01.16 | Pneumatus | because they killed them at really obscure times of the day and always had a raid camping the spawns when they were due to repop |
| 15:01.20 | ckknight | lua> unit = "partypet3"; return unit:sub(1, 5) |
| 15:01.20 | lua_bot | ckknight: party |
| 15:01.22 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.sub("party1", 0, 4) == "party" |
| 15:01.22 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 15:01.55 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: repops were somewhat random though |
| 15:01.58 | p3lim | lua> string.sub("party1", 1, 4) == "party" |
| 15:01.59 | lua_bot | p3lim: false |
| 15:02.07 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: same, and those dragons had the only druid pvp weapons in the game =P |
| 15:02.16 | Lyn_ | lua> string.sub("party1", 0, 5) == "party" |
| 15:02.17 | lua_bot | Lyn_: true |
| 15:02.20 | Lyn_ | :p |
| 15:02.25 | ckknight | Lyn_: use 1, 5 |
| 15:02.28 | ckknight | the 0 is bad karma |
| 15:02.31 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.sub("party1", 1, 5) == "party" |
| 15:02.32 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: true |
| 15:02.34 | Lyn_ | k |
| 15:02.39 | Lyn_ | testing |
| 15:02.47 | p3lim | lua> string.sub("party1", 0, 5) == "party" |
| 15:02.48 | lua_bot | p3lim: true |
| 15:02.52 | p3lim | still works tho |
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| 15:03.07 | Arrowmaster | still wrong though |
| 15:03.14 | p3lim | well ok, ill change it |
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| 15:03.22 | Pneumatus | whats the average tip you lot give enchanters/jcs on your realms? |
| 15:03.29 | Arrowmaster | 0g |
| 15:03.36 | Arrowmaster | since theyre all guildmates |
| 15:03.39 | p3lim | lua> string.find("raid1pet") == "raid" |
| 15:03.40 | lua_bot | p3lim: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'find' (string expected, got no value) |
| 15:03.49 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: 10g |
| 15:03.53 | p3lim | wait... |
| 15:04.06 | ckknight | lua> ("raidpet1"):match("^raid") |
| 15:04.06 | lua_bot | ckknight: raid |
| 15:04.19 | p3lim | match maybe it was |
| 15:04.34 | KriLL3 | I really wish blizz made enchants into items |
| 15:04.39 | p3lim | which is better to use anyways? |
| 15:04.42 | p3lim | sub or match? |
| 15:05.03 | ckknight | I'd use match, for clarity's sake |
| 15:06.38 | ulic | saw an e-mail in my blizzard folder got all excited, but it was just the recruit a friend :( |
| 15:07.17 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 15:08.50 | Arrowmaster | sub is faster afaik |
| 15:08.59 | Arrowmaster | if you do it correctly |
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| 15:16.43 | ashb | fail. i'm 5 arena points short |
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| 15:18.30 | fewyn | awe |
| 15:19.13 | ashb | anyone play a pvp warrior in 5v5s? |
| 15:19.20 | KriLL3 | "WoW: When Eleven Million Players Aren’t Enough" nice headline for the friend program :> |
| 15:19.34 | KriLL3 | ashb: 1/5 of all 5on5 players |
| 15:19.57 | ashb | cos i tried it for the first time this weekend and was seriously rage starved - what am i doing wrong |
| 15:20.02 | ashb | (apart from having crap gear) |
| 15:20.09 | KriLL3 | "Blizzard have launched a new drive for their rapidly ailing World Of Warcraft player base, in a last-ditch desperate attempt to drum up interest in the game, before it has to switch off its servers." oh the irony |
| 15:20.20 | KriLL3 | ashb: I don't have a clue |
| 15:20.37 | ashb | no me either >_< |
| 15:20.59 | KriLL3 | start hitting more and don't use abilities that makes your next hit not generate rage? |
| 15:21.26 | ashb | dont use any next swing abilities anyway (Heroic strike is hte only real on) |
| 15:21.41 | durcyn | uh, cleave |
| 15:22.00 | ashb | hitting more isn't an option with Stormherald (3.8s) - i was considering pulling out two fast 1handers to get rage that switching back to 2h for MS |
| 15:22.11 | ashb | but i can't say i've noticed anyone else having to do stupid stuff like that |
| 15:23.34 | KriLL3 | warrior is ezmode in the arena, stunlock combined with slows, a lot of armor, charge, fear and dps that makes a rogue envious |
| 15:23.55 | KriLL3 | oh and a heal reducer |
| 15:24.58 | KriLL3 | always found it interesting that a class with a ton of armor and hp got one of the best stunlocks ingame, rogues need it because they're flimsy, warriors doesn't |
| 15:25.39 | ashb | yeah thats the theory. in the 5s matches i played the other day i couldn't even keep MS up on one target cos i didn't have enough rage cos no one was attacking me |
| 15:26.14 | selckin | thats how to beat a warrior :) |
| 15:26.32 | KriLL3 | cc/ignore ? |
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| 15:27.20 | KriLL3 | I'm honestly puzzled though how blizzard justified mace stun not having any diminishing returns |
| 15:27.39 | ashb | selckin: yeah i noticed that. dont attack him and he does less damage. oddly enough |
| 15:27.43 | KriLL3 | I've been stun locked to death countless times by a single warrior |
| 15:27.48 | ashb | KriLL3: i thought it did |
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| 15:27.51 | KriLL3 | no |
| 15:27.57 | Zyndrome | heh, reminds of a certain shit warrior on my realm ... he couldn't kill a fly if it wasn't for stunherald and mace-specc |
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| 15:28.42 | ashb | Zyndrome: sounds like me >_< |
| 15:28.45 | KriLL3 | Zyndrome: Imo stunlocking should be left to rogues |
| 15:28.50 | Zyndrome | :p |
| 15:29.02 | ashb | lets not forget that spamstring can also root you in place |
| 15:29.08 | KriLL3 | being stunlocked by a warrior isn't natural... |
| 15:29.27 | KriLL3 | ashb: is the aoe slow in prot? |
| 15:29.28 | Aii | dont forget intimidating shout making you not run around half the time :P |
| 15:29.34 | ashb | no thats fury |
| 15:29.36 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 15:29.48 | Aii | yeah, piercing howl is fury |
| 15:30.09 | KriLL3 | oh and that howl that makes everyone attack slower, also a hoot... |
| 15:30.12 | ashb | so yeah - if anyone actualy knows a arms warrior who is good at pvp, i'd like to ask them some questions |
| 15:30.21 | ashb | KriLL3: thunderclap |
| 15:30.52 | KriLL3 | and most of them are orcs (stun resist 99%) or taurens (AoE stun) |
| 15:31.24 | KriLL3 | warriors are only second to frost mages as being the most annoying in the arena imo |
| 15:31.42 | ashb | not when they are in the PvP rep set they aren't really |
| 15:31.48 | KriLL3 | well perhaps a life drain warlock is above em also... |
| 15:32.39 | KriLL3 | love how a warlock can apply a full set of dots then just keep using life drain the whole fight, doesn't matter if you deal epic dps, he regains all of it from you |
| 15:32.53 | ashb | spell reflect his drain life :) |
| 15:33.21 | KriLL3 | that's not a druid ability... |
| 15:33.31 | ashb | cyclone him then |
| 15:33.47 | KriLL3 | 1.5 sec cast you need to exit feral forms for |
| 15:34.01 | KriLL3 | and they got fear, silence etc |
| 15:34.16 | KriLL3 | it's useless for spell interruption |
| 15:34.17 | Aii | KriLL3: l2kick |
| 15:34.19 | ashb | are druids not imune to fear in one form or another? |
| 15:34.22 | KriLL3 | druids no kick! |
| 15:34.27 | KriLL3 | ashb: no |
| 15:34.35 | KriLL3 | fear is the arch nemesis of druids |
| 15:34.35 | Aii | druid who is not resto in arena = fail :P |
| 15:34.59 | fewyn | over 3000 emails now imported into gmail |
| 15:35.05 | fewyn | sigh i hate being a email packrat |
| 15:35.16 | Aii | only 3000? |
| 15:35.22 | fewyn | hahaha |
| 15:35.29 | fewyn | that's only 1/5th of my inbox |
| 15:35.37 | fewyn | and then i have my other folders to import |
| 15:35.57 | KriLL3 | well it's nice that blizz adds some love to ferals in WOTLK, a level 70 feral druid with all level 80 full feral spec stuff would be viable in the arena atm |
| 15:36.10 | KriLL3 | oh right, all other classes get new stuff that goes above and beyond anything we go... |
| 15:36.20 | Arrowmaster | shut it |
| 15:36.28 | Arrowmaster | the expansion isnt out yet |
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| 15:37.31 | KriLL3 | no but all added feral stuff is weaksause versions of rogue/warrior stuff in the game currently, and they're getting a new tier of stuff above their old stuff |
| 15:37.37 | fewyn | if/when i get my beta key 'll probably level my druid in it, and when we go live i'll probably level my spriest |
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| 15:37.57 | KriLL3 | fewyn: beta leveling isn't kept when it goes live correct? |
| 15:38.05 | fewyn | i know |
| 15:38.12 | fewyn | it isn't |
| 15:38.22 | Aii | warriors dont have cyclone ;) |
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| 15:38.31 | KriLL3 | oh and rogues can now remove bleeds, the only thing that kept druids able to keep em on their toes... |
| 15:38.41 | fewyn | my druid is better geared so i'd think it would be easier to test with my druid |
| 15:38.50 | |Pixel| | with a talent |
| 15:38.53 | KriLL3 | Aii: no they have a million things that are better and doesn't have casttime :> |
| 15:39.05 | Aii | KriLL3: er...no |
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| 15:39.23 | KriLL3 | aoe fear, a number of stuns some of which sans diminishing returns |
| 15:39.29 | KriLL3 | aoe slow |
| 15:39.32 | KriLL3 | target slow |
| 15:39.43 | Aii | trust me, in a well organized team cyclone is far more devastating |
| 15:39.54 | Aii | you can heal a stunned target; you can't heal a cycloned one |
| 15:40.02 | Aii | cyclone is on-demand, mace stuns arent |
| 15:40.10 | fewyn | cyclone is awesome in 5v5 |
| 15:40.13 | fewyn | imho |
| 15:40.18 | KriLL3 | the problem is that if you want to kill the cycloned target they can time a big heal to when it ends |
| 15:40.26 | Aii | ...which you kick |
| 15:40.33 | Aii | I did say well-coordinated did I not |
| 15:40.36 | Aii | or even better |
| 15:40.46 | Aii | you can cyclone the healer right *before* the other cyclone ends |
| 15:40.51 | KriLL3 | you're stuck in the 5on5 mentality, feral druids aren't allowed in 5on5 |
| 15:40.58 | fewyn | time the cyclone to redo the cyclone! |
| 15:41.04 | fewyn | yes they are |
| 15:41.05 | Aii | erm |
| 15:41.08 | fewyn | i am in one |
| 15:41.16 | Aii | what im saying is true in 2v2, 3v3, 5v5 |
| 15:41.16 | fewyn | we do fairly well |
| 15:42.49 | KriLL3 | and none of them are pressuring you to respec resto? |
| 15:43.07 | fewyn | nope |
| 15:43.20 | fewyn | i respec resto for 2fv2 and 3v3 tho |
| 15:43.47 | KriLL3 | you respect several times a week? |
| 15:43.51 | ashb | what level of gear do you have? |
| 15:43.54 | fewyn | yep |
| 15:44.11 | fewyn | BT gear for feral, and s3 gear for resto |
| 15:44.13 | Aii | KriLL3: doesnt everybody? heh >.> |
| 15:44.30 | KriLL3 | BT? |
| 15:44.37 | fewyn | black temple |
| 15:44.45 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 15:44.50 | fewyn | my feral gear is pve |
| 15:44.51 | KriLL3 | no resilience? |
| 15:44.59 | fewyn | works rather well for burst dps |
| 15:45.02 | Aii | rawr bearform |
| 15:45.13 | KriLL3 | yeah but you're flimsier than wet paper |
| 15:45.16 | fewyn | and my tank gear is god like if i decide to use it |
| 15:45.17 | Neya | pvegear and bearform makes sad warriors :P |
| 15:45.35 | ashb | yeah it does QQ |
| 15:45.35 | fewyn | i have 20k hp in bear form and a shit ton of armor |
| 15:45.49 | Aii | i would not call a bear in pve gear "flimsy" |
| 15:45.49 | KriLL3 | same |
| 15:46.00 | KriLL3 | Aii: in pvp they are |
| 15:46.16 | ashb | i dont even have over 10k health in my PVP gear. stupid fucking crappy gear |
| 15:46.25 | fewyn | trust me, we are not. I'm usually last to die |
| 15:46.27 | Aii | o_O |
| 15:46.33 | Neya | when a crit hits for less than a hit would in the pvpgear, nah the pvegear is not flimsy. |
| 15:46.35 | Aii | ashb: get better gear >.> |
| 15:46.47 | Aii | grind honor if you have to :E |
| 15:46.47 | Arrowmaster | i dont even have pvp gear |
| 15:46.48 | ashb | Aii: .... I'm trying, its quite hard when you suck tho :) |
| 15:46.56 | Aii | s2 from honor |
| 15:47.03 | Aii | doesnt matter whether you suck or not (!) |
| 15:47.04 | ashb | Aii: yeah but thats soul destorying :) |
| 15:47.07 | fewyn | my hunter is currently working on s2 gear |
| 15:47.16 | ashb | but yes i'm working on it |
| 15:47.16 | Aii | wait, you pvp and you have a soul? |
| 15:47.16 | KriLL3 | Neya: would you pvp in full tanking gear and bearform?... |
| 15:47.19 | Aii | you're screwed |
| 15:47.34 | KriLL3 | I'm atm working on my third set of S2 gear :> |
| 15:47.43 | ashb | no i just don't like grinding AV since ppl always bicker and alliance defend in the wrong fucking place |
| 15:47.47 | fewyn | I'm the annoyance factor in 5v5 KriLL3 |
| 15:48.05 | Aii | wait wait wait |
| 15:48.09 | KriLL3 | fewyn: the point and laugh factor you mean? a feral druid in tanking gear isn't useful, same as a prot warrior |
| 15:48.11 | Aii | defense in AV? you're killing me :P |
| 15:48.18 | Aii | er |
| 15:48.19 | fewyn | i run around feral chartging cycloning and shifting to bear |
| 15:48.24 | Neya | the few times I do pvp I do it in a mix of my tank and dpssets. |
| 15:48.29 | Aii | there is a HUGE difference between a prot warrior and a feral druid in tank gear |
| 15:48.36 | ashb | Aii: it seems to work for the horde - they have about 10ppl choke IBGY |
| 15:48.41 | ashb | yeha bout 40% dodge chance |
| 15:48.43 | KriLL3 | alliance killing random horde at SH isn't defense, it's the mindless zerg mentality that makes em kill stuff where they spawn |
| 15:48.52 | Aii | ashb: on our battlegroup, alliance just rush through IBGY with 30. |
| 15:48.59 | Aii | can't stop more then half of em. |
| 15:49.02 | ashb | Aii: which battlegoup is that? |
| 15:49.06 | Aii | Rampage |
| 15:49.19 | ashb | on Nightfall they seem to just trickle in to get killed |
| 15:51.12 | KriLL3 | depends on the time of day and % of mindless morons in the raid, sometimes all charge south and we take everything in a rapid fashion, keep it, and win, or all but 5 remain at SH, doesn't retake any bunkers even if they're right next to where they're fighting, they don't bother chasing down the horde that get past em, etc, horde takes all bunkers, we get none, they win |
| 15:51.44 | ashb | sounds about right |
| 15:51.54 | Aii | its funny how much battlegroups vary |
| 15:52.02 | ashb | also on AV weekend i went thru 3 back to back AVs vs a 36man + MC premade |
| 15:52.08 | KriLL3 | I'll admit it's a lot more fun to stand at SH and rape all the mounter hordies, but it's totally mindless and doesn't help your team |
| 15:52.26 | Aii | why MC o_O |
| 15:52.47 | ashb | cos Molten Core are in the Nightfall battlegroup |
| 15:53.13 | ashb | everyone loves having a PVP realm known for being imba in thier battlegroup, right/ |
| 15:53.15 | Aii | oh |
| 15:53.17 | KriLL3 | Aii: I think it's a bit like dialects, if one side had a working tactic and wins one of the BGs most of the time the other side gets low morale and doesn't care about putting up a fight |
| 15:53.18 | Aii | MC the realm |
| 15:53.22 | Aii | not MC the raid |
| 15:53.26 | Aii | lolol |
| 15:53.30 | ashb | yeah, sorry :) |
| 15:53.39 | Aii | i was like... "wth" |
| 15:54.04 | Throngy | there's a 40-man battlegroup? must have to wait ages :/ |
| 15:54.15 | KriLL3 | I'm on rampage, we win eye 70% AV 60% WSG 30% AB 60% about |
| 15:54.29 | KriLL3 | alliance side that is |
| 15:54.33 | ashb | i haven't actauly kept score |
| 15:54.42 | KriLL3 | I got an addon that keeps statistics |
| 15:54.42 | ashb | but most of htem are << 50% wins (A) |
| 15:54.48 | ashb | yeha i should get one of those |
| 15:54.50 | ashb | which one? |
| 15:55.00 | KriLL3 | some random honor addon for fubar |
| 15:55.04 | KriLL3 | honor plus perhaps |
| 15:55.06 | ashb | fairy |
| 15:55.25 | KriLL3 | it varies ofc but that's what I've experienced |
| 15:55.31 | ashb | ofc |
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| 15:55.48 | KriLL3 | in the middle of the night most bgs are fairly mindless |
| 15:56.15 | KriLL3 | tactics etc seems most common in the afternoon and evening |
| 15:56.20 | ashb | tbh it seems then that i win the most |
| 15:56.25 | ashb | (middle of hte night) |
| 15:56.34 | KriLL3 | consistently loose here |
| 15:56.43 | KriLL3 | except WSG |
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| 15:56.57 | KriLL3 | that's the only time of day alliance doesn't get stuck in the middle it seems |
| 15:57.05 | ashb | the last time i managed to win WSG was when it was 10v3 for first two speed cpatures |
| 15:57.11 | KriLL3 | alliance never ever ventures into the horde base otherwise |
| 15:57.15 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 15:57.21 | KriLL3 | similar here |
| 15:57.23 | Aii | odd |
| 15:57.30 | Aii | I find that horde has more tactics at night :P |
| 15:57.34 | Aii | and less during primetime |
| 15:57.45 | KriLL3 | I'm a druid so I try to flagrun but horde usually have 2-3 defenders, a bit hard to survive that |
| 15:57.55 | ashb | its diff from battlegroup to battlegroup, clearly |
| 15:57.57 | KriLL3 | if you're solo |
| 15:57.58 | Aii | flagrun with friends :P |
| 15:57.59 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 15:58.09 | KriLL3 | Aii: alliance doesn't venture south of the middle |
| 15:58.19 | Aii | i said friends |
| 15:58.20 | Aii | not pugs |
| 15:58.39 | KriLL3 | they're all hellbent on rushing from GY to middle solo to fight 2-3 horde and get killed |
| 15:59.01 | KriLL3 | no alliance in our base defending, none in theirs attacking and no one cares about our or their flag carrier |
| 15:59.04 | ashb | sounds about right |
| 15:59.16 | Lanerra | Can .OTF type fonts be used in WoW? |
| 15:59.34 | ashb | tbh i dont know. you can convert otf to ttf fairly easily |
| 15:59.45 | Lanerra | Alright, thanks :) |
| 16:00.04 | KriLL3 | a few games every now and then I and some others with actual brains accidentally bump into each other and the 2-3 of us manage to win nearly solo while the rest keep up their mindless stuff |
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| 16:01.08 | KriLL3 | I've quite literally seen 5 alliance standing near our tunnel all killing a lone horde completely ignore the horde flag runner running through em |
| 16:01.55 | KriLL3 | 1-0 in our favor, hunter, mage, warlock, priest and one more, he got to the middle before I caught up solo on my mount, then his 3 buddies arrived and killed me |
| 16:01.57 | ashb | whats the lua function to get the callstack? |
| 16:02.21 | KriLL3 | the 5 guys he ran past still stood where they were |
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| 16:03.58 | Vulcanus | you know your life sucks when your only friend is a bot |
| 16:04.48 | ashb | oh yeah - anyone knoe what was up with the server maintenance on a tues in europe? |
| 16:04.55 | ag` | woah dude, trolls can't be bots |
| 16:05.24 | Matrix110 | ashb its wednesday |
| 16:05.32 | ashb | Matrix110: it was last night |
| 16:05.47 | Matrix110 | uhm? |
| 16:05.57 | Matrix110 | The servers where up till 2am atleast |
| 16:06.14 | Matrix110 | atleast mine |
| 16:06.21 | ashb | ... mine got shutdown at 12 CEST |
| 16:06.37 | ashb | and so was the login server after that |
| 16:07.04 | ashb | at least for the next 10 mins. oh well |
| 16:09.16 | Lyn_ | so.. enough coding for today |
| 16:09.29 | Lyn_ | now testing paladin or dk :x |
| 16:09.36 | ashb | not yet |
| 16:09.57 | ashb | i haven't got my [HP:FontSize('200%')] quite working fully for dogtag3 yet |
| 16:11.19 | ckknight | there's a fontsize thing now? |
| 16:11.27 | ashb | i'm writing one :) |
| 16:11.47 | ckknight | tip: don't have it be a modifier, since it effects the whole fontstring, it'd just be a tag |
| 16:11.55 | ashb | yes but: |
| 16:12.08 | ashb | [PercentHP < 50 ? HP:FontSize((150-PercentHP):Percent) ! HP ] |
| 16:12.10 | ckknight | you'd need to hack it into the framework itself, like how Alpha or Outline is done, imo |
| 16:12.36 | ashb | yes it would be slightly cleaner hacked into the framework |
| 16:12.39 | ckknight | yea, still shouldn't be a modifier |
| 16:12.46 | ckknight | just have it be a tag in that case, too |
| 16:12.58 | ashb | would that still work? |
| 16:13.25 | ashb | [PercentHP < 50 ? (HP:Percent FontSize((150-PercentHP):Percent) ) ] |
| 16:13.28 | ckknight | [PercentHP < 50 ? FontSize(150-PercentHP) HP:Percent ! HP] |
| 16:13.28 | ashb | something like that? |
| 16:13.29 | ckknight | or something |
| 16:13.34 | Matrix110 | hmmmm |
| 16:13.44 | ashb | yeah okay, thats better |
| 16:13.47 | Matrix110 | is BigWigs firing some Custom Event when a boss fights start by any chance? :P |
| 16:13.55 | ckknight | in any event, make it work just like Alpha |
| 16:14.04 | ckknight | consistency is key |
| 16:14.05 | ashb | ckknight: so you'll take a patch for it? |
| 16:14.09 | ckknight | sure |
| 16:14.18 | ashb | where's latest version live in repo? |
| 16:14.20 | ashb | svn still? |
| 16:14.31 | ckknight | yea, until the curseforge transition, at least |
| 16:14.37 | ashb | okay |
| 16:14.43 | ashb | svn co's |
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| 16:18.48 | Throngy | hmm must read up on what's happening with wowace & curseforge |
| 16:18.56 | Throngy | still haven't gotten around to it :/ |
| 16:21.47 | Throngy | ok, that box is ticked :D |
| 16:26.34 | KriLL3 | will there be some kind of announcement when curseforge takes over from WAU? |
| 16:26.57 | nevcairiel | obviously not, we'll surprise you one day! |
| 16:27.00 | nevcairiel | </iron> |
| 16:27.04 | nevcairiel | *irony |
| 16:27.14 | KriLL3 | and will it be usable when it does? I tried the curse updater once and it replaced most of my addons with outdated broken versions... |
| 16:27.38 | Groktar | hehe |
| 16:27.45 | Groktar | that thing is the devil |
| 16:28.02 | KriLL3 | well I did use a lot of fan updates back then, but still... |
| 16:28.18 | nevcairiel | thats because the curse client only downloads stuff thats on curse right now |
| 16:28.26 | nevcairiel | it'll use stuff thats on wowace when we switch =P |
| 16:28.37 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 16:28.39 | Groktar | but it also installed extra mods that were just awful/broken/outdated |
| 16:28.45 | Throngy | "In the immediate, however, WowAce's content will be available via the new Curse Client that is in development. The new client will be a great departure from the current one, and I'm glad to say I'm in a position to influence its future development, and I will continue to use this influence to push for the features that you, the community, want to see." -- Kaelten |
| 16:28.57 | Groktar | it took me days to find all the crap it put on there |
| 16:29.44 | Throngy | you didn't back up your addons first? :o |
| 16:29.55 | KriLL3 | I did thankfully |
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| 16:32.48 | Zhinjio | ok, very cool thing: wordle.net ... and for some lua lovin' : http://wordle.net/gallery/wrdl/108430/lua_programming |
| 16:33.24 | sb | http://www.buffed.de/pic_view.php?uid=6503&nr=1&it=bfd_artikel <-- this is going to be really bad... need new hardware *sigh* |
| 16:33.41 | Throngy | a beta of the new curse client is available: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/ |
| 16:34.08 | Groktar | sigh, another bad with a beta key |
| 16:34.27 | sb | Groktar: beta key? where? :o |
| 16:35.04 | Groktar | some retard that quit wow six months ago because he couldn't handle pvp on his warrior |
| 16:35.18 | kagaro|blackhat | and he gets a key .. /wrist |
| 16:35.21 | Groktar | and played on a pve server and still bitched about getting ganked |
| 16:35.22 | Groktar | yeah |
| 16:35.24 | Gnarfoz | sb: dude. |
| 16:35.40 | sb | Gnarfoz: yup? |
| 16:35.47 | Gnarfoz | sb: have you still not gotten the message that's being passed around? buffed sucks. :p |
| 16:36.06 | Gnarfoz | as does PCGH because they don't have a clue |
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| 16:36.27 | Gnarfoz | they're running highest end hardware and state that they get 35fps on a BC default install? yeah right, that sounds likely... |
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| 16:38.19 | Gnarfoz | err 65 |
| 16:39.14 | Gnarfoz | anyway, they put "howling fjord" as the title... how did they test howling fjord with a BC install? |
| 16:39.15 | Gnarfoz | it's all utter bollocks. I get better fps than they do on a system half as powerful as theirs xD |
| 16:39.18 | sb | Gnarfoz: *sigh* okay ;) |
| 16:39.34 | sb | but i still need new hardware ;) |
| 16:40.09 | Gnarfoz | I'd take new hardware if someone gave it to me, too ;D |
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| 16:50.08 | KriLL3 | actually wow is very demanding in populated areas and your GPU doesn't seem to help |
| 16:50.20 | KriLL3 | I'm guessing it's ram speed and CPU that matters |
| 16:50.42 | KriLL3 | I got a beast of a rig and I get 35~ in shattrath/IF etc |
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| 16:52.04 | durcyn | wow is cpu-bound, always. |
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| 16:53.09 | Dashkal | "always"? My CPU usage begs to differ |
| 16:54.15 | nevcairiel | it doesn't use multi-core cpu's like it could |
| 16:54.46 | Gnarfoz | because it's too old ;> |
| 16:54.51 | Gnarfoz | (or because someone lacked foresight) |
| 16:55.18 | Primer | heh, last night I was asking my arena partner why he didn't like queueing from Shat...he tells me it literally takes minutes to load shat some times |
| 16:55.26 | CIA-55 | 03funkydude * r79872 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: finished config re-arrange |
| 16:55.36 | Dashkal | It's dual core support is half-decent. I saw a pretty damn good jump when they patched that in |
| 16:55.48 | Primer | I found that odd, since my 2 year old machine loads it in just a few seconds |
| 16:55.59 | Aii | dual core yes |
| 16:56.02 | Aii | quad core no |
| 16:56.20 | Dashkal | True. And they had better get to work on that. Quads are only going to get more common |
| 16:56.24 | durcyn | Primer: too many addons, slow-ass/badly fragmented disk, i'd guess |
| 16:56.40 | Primer | he said he hardly had any addons |
| 16:57.51 | Primer | anyhow, it seems that many people suffer from this |
| 16:58.07 | Primer | I know a lot of people that hate going to shat or the isle |
| 16:58.19 | Dashkal | slow disk, insufficient ram, or fragmentation |
| 16:58.19 | Primer | claiming they have to look at the ground when they do |
| 16:58.28 | Primer | and slow load times |
| 16:58.41 | durcyn | yeah, could be swapping too |
| 16:59.04 | Primer | Dashkal: you know what's funny? My lesser work machine loads wow faster in wine than my beefier home machine does in windows :) |
| 16:59.32 | Primer | granted, I don't think wine can't reproduce some graphics effects |
| 17:00.00 | Dashkal | I keep hearing that, but when I tried to replicate that myself (same hardware, dual boot), wine was significantly worse |
| 17:00.11 | Dashkal | Need to figure out what I'm missing |
| 17:00.54 | Gnarfoz | the fact that people lie |
| 17:01.04 | Gnarfoz | (c) Greg House ;) |
| 17:02.05 | Josh_Borke | i get better play speeds in windows than wine |
| 17:02.33 | Primer | I have a feeling wine is unable to set anisotropic filtering at the application level |
| 17:02.43 | Primer | perhaps anti-aliasing as well |
| 17:02.58 | Primer | which may account for me having better frames rates in wine too |
| 17:03.45 | Primer | anyhow, last night I started a new arena team, me, a disc priest, and a warrior |
| 17:04.02 | Primer | we went 12-5, so I was happy |
| 17:04.14 | Primer | but the last 2 fights were against priest/war |
| 17:04.18 | Primer | and they fucking raped us |
| 17:04.56 | Primer | thing is, my warrior was WAY better geared than the other warrior, except the other warrior tore through me like I didn't have any pvp gear on (418 resil) |
| 17:05.29 | Primer | while my warrior was barely able to touch their priest...he never popped Pain Suppression, and was taking very little damage |
| 17:05.45 | CIA-55 | 03ananhaid * r79873 10Omen/Localization/ (zhCN.lua zhTW.lua): |
| 17:05.45 | CIA-55 | Omen: |
| 17:05.45 | CIA-55 | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 17:05.45 | CIA-55 | - merge the lastest readjust except mix-translate,This looks comfortable. |
| 17:05.50 | Primer | he didn't have that great a gear either, but when we armory'd him, he had 500 resilience |
| 17:06.28 | Primer | which begs the question...wtf did that warrior do to kill me so fast, despite my use of PW:S, PS, PoM, Renew, PI + FH x 5... |
| 17:06.38 | Primer | all on myself |
| 17:07.05 | KriLL3 | man that curse client beta is buggy |
| 17:07.14 | chexsum | rng |
| 17:07.22 | KriLL3 | pops up various error prompts 24/7 |
| 17:08.11 | Aii | Primer: was your warrior rage starved? |
| 17:08.18 | Primer | he never mentioned it |
| 17:08.30 | Primer | that's another thing I keep forgetting |
| 17:08.39 | Primer | as a night elf, I have Elune's Grace |
| 17:08.45 | Primer | never popped that...damn... |
| 17:09.10 | Primer | not sure how much damage that would have prevented though, but every little bit counts, I suppose |
| 17:09.31 | CIA-55 | 03funkydude * r79874 10StatBlockCore/ (5 files in 2 dirs): StatBlockCore: cleanup locale |
| 17:09.37 | ReAn | hey, is there a LIB like LibPeriodicTable for spells? |
| 17:10.01 | chexsum | my disc priest can tank a warrior for ages |
| 17:10.01 | ReAn | nvm |
| 17:10.04 | ReAn | im retarded |
| 17:10.09 | ckknight | ReAn: I don't see the point :-P |
| 17:10.17 | Primer | chexsum: I figured the same thing |
| 17:10.24 | chexsum | 5k armor, 494 res, 1650 heals, imp shield/armor |
| 17:10.59 | ReAn | yea ckknight: i just noticed it tracks class skills too >_> |
| 17:11.00 | Primer | heh, in the armory it's showing me with 2193 armor, but I have no buffs |
| 17:11.01 | chexsum | i like to drag them away from their healbot and nuke them but its risky |
| 17:11.51 | chexsum | dont ever attack a warrior thats got a healer near them or you will definately die |
| 17:12.09 | Primer | yeah well |
| 17:12.15 | Primer | we were priest+war too |
| 17:12.25 | Fisker- | unless you're a warlock |
| 17:12.32 | Primer | and we were all close to each other |
| 17:12.36 | Gnarfoz | or you're on beta and a ret paladin |
| 17:12.44 | chexsum | the other priest probably dispelled all your defense imo |
| 17:12.52 | Primer | I did the same to him |
| 17:12.52 | chexsum | oh |
| 17:13.01 | chexsum | sweeping attacks |
| 17:13.13 | chexsum | dont stand near your warrior or itll feed the other guy rage |
| 17:13.17 | Primer | we both used the same strategies |
| 17:13.38 | chexsum | he got lucky sideswipes i bet |
| 17:13.46 | Primer | 2 arenas in a row? |
| 17:13.55 | Primer | I mean, we stopped playing because of them :) |
| 17:14.34 | Primer | anyhow, I finally got my S4 bracers, so I was happy |
| 17:14.51 | Primer | I was not happy that I didn't have enough arena points for whatever's available at 1600 |
| 17:14.54 | Primer | or 1650 |
| 17:15.03 | chexsum | im with a rogue for 2v2 |
| 17:15.29 | chexsum | blind is the get out of warrior beating free card |
| 17:16.32 | Gnarfoz | yeah, until he trinkets o_O |
| 17:16.45 | chexsum | i monitor that :P |
| 17:18.18 | chexsum | i had 1699 last week then bombed down to 1550 lol |
| 17:18.34 | chexsum | undergeared dps isnt fun |
| 17:21.35 | Daemona | doh, i wonder why i am running low fps in blacktemple... forgot to disable the stream -.- |
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| 17:28.05 | Obelixprime | people complaining about recruit-a-friend are silly |
| 17:28.50 | Obelixprime | I'm reading the EU thread, and the majority of the people are reacting as if its the end of the world |
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| 17:29.58 | kenlyric | it's... not? |
| 17:30.46 | ckknight | why's it such a big deal? |
| 17:31.55 | kenlyric | I can't even imagine. |
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| 17:32.04 | Obelixprime | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5275750115&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 17:32.04 | kenlyric | people are probably just angry they can't get the mount. |
| 17:32.27 | Obelixprime | mainly, one poster in particular is like "Omg you can get an in game advantage if you want to pay more!" |
| 17:32.27 | chexsum | not being able to walk up stairs = end of the wow |
| 17:32.41 | Obelixprime | and continued along those lines for several posts |
| 17:33.39 | Obelixprime | shrug, people are just bitter about the triple XP and the mount |
| 17:33.47 | kenlyric | actually, that makes me angry too. |
| 17:33.59 | kenlyric | when that appeared on the PTR I was hoping it was something you could give to your alts. |
| 17:34.56 | Obelixprime | I think its an appropriate way to help new people enter the game and get to the more interesting content |
| 17:36.30 | kenlyric | anyone can get the bonus for 10 days :) |
| 17:36.34 | kenlyric | without paying |
| 17:37.00 | kenlyric | with triple XP and massive playtimes you should be able to hit 60 in 10 days. |
| 17:37.16 | Obelixprime | i thought there's a level cap on the trial accounts? |
| 17:37.18 | Daemona | damn |
| 17:37.18 | Obelixprime | like level 30 |
| 17:37.23 | Daemona | a pity http://gizmodo.com/5033711/is-this-the-worlds-greatest-gaming-rig wont fit in my room |
| 17:37.24 | Obelixprime | and like 100g |
| 17:37.32 | kenlyric | oh, so 30 |
| 17:38.24 | Obelixprime | I don't get why people think triple xp bonus is such a huge advantage? |
| 17:38.50 | kenlyric | well, you get it on quests |
| 17:38.51 | Obelixprime | yay! I can get another alt that I have to dedicate x amount of hours to gear up and grind professions and blah blah blah |
| 17:38.54 | kenlyric | it's a pretty big boost |
| 17:39.04 | Aii | Obelixprime: some people find the gearing up etc fun |
| 17:39.08 | Aii | but dont like the level grind |
| 17:39.19 | Obelixprime | right, I'm in that camp.. |
| 17:39.20 | Aii | or for some people, gearing up isnt difficult |
| 17:39.28 | Obelixprime | I have 1 70, a swp/bt geared spriest.. |
| 17:39.30 | kenlyric | just give alts permanent double xp and I'd be happy. |
| 17:39.32 | Aii | if they have a guild that can drag them into high end content |
| 17:39.32 | Lyn_ | nice one, all people who talk in general chat on beta realm are talking about germans and ww2 ... -.- /leave |
| 17:39.36 | Obelixprime | my next closest character is a level 61 paladin |
| 17:40.01 | Obelixprime | if i really wanted to get my paladin to 70 i would |
| 17:40.06 | Obelixprime | if i wanted to level another toon to 70, i would |
| 17:40.15 | Obelixprime | i don't have time though, i don't |
| 17:40.18 | kenlyric | you != other people |
| 17:40.31 | Obelixprime | right... |
| 17:40.40 | kenlyric | shock of shocks, people are motivated by different things |
| 17:40.45 | Aii | you're talking to someone who has 3 70s :P |
| 17:40.47 | Obelixprime | :O OH REALLY |
| 17:40.52 | Aii | I'm afraid I don't relate :p |
| 17:40.56 | kenlyric | I have 2.64 70s |
| 17:41.06 | Obelixprime | so, how do you see this then? |
| 17:41.10 | Aii | 64%? Exactly? :P |
| 17:41.14 | Obelixprime | people with multiple 70s |
| 17:41.18 | kenlyric | and now doing content is like razorblades |
| 17:41.27 | Obelixprime | i know people with 4-5 70s lol |
| 17:41.34 | kenlyric | well, no, whatever 64/70 is :) |
| 17:41.39 | Primer | My guild leader has one of every class 70 |
| 17:41.50 | Obelixprime | levelling for the most part is easy, i just don't want to do it.. |
| 17:41.52 | Primer | except Paladin, which he's now leveling |
| 17:42.03 | kenlyric | easier is not the same as easy |
| 17:42.08 | kenlyric | it's interminably too long |
| 17:42.41 | Obelixprime | well, that's because the focus has gone completely to end game level 70 content |
| 17:42.52 | kenlyric | the big issue with 3x experience is setting up your quest path to minimize travel |
| 17:43.14 | kenlyric | because it inflates how much travel reduces xp/hour |
| 17:43.15 | Obelixprime | i remember levelling on my priest as holy in vanilla where it was really easy to find people to group with for dungeons/quests |
| 17:43.24 | Obelixprime | now most of azeroth is a graveyard with tbc |
| 17:44.03 | Aii | the focus has always been on endgame content |
| 17:44.12 | Aii | it just wasnt as obvious before BC |
| 17:44.18 | Obelixprime | that's true |
| 17:45.12 | Obelixprime | i think this just helps out new people since the abundance of low to mid level toons on a server are pretty low |
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| 17:45.38 | Obelixprime | i wonder if there's restrictions as to how they're paid |
| 17:45.45 | Aii | it's the bane of a progression-oriented game |
| 17:45.51 | Aii | obsolete content is just that |
| 17:45.53 | Obelixprime | like, would they grant the xp if i'm paying for 2 accounts with the same credit card |
| 17:46.06 | Aii | i'd assume so |
| 17:46.16 | kenlyric | there seems to be no restrictions on it. |
| 17:46.18 | Aii | all they care about is more accounts |
| 17:46.21 | ulic | as long as one invited the other one :) |
| 17:46.23 | kenlyric | But that's no guarantee they won't add them |
| 17:46.36 | Obelixprime | right |
| 17:46.59 | kenlyric | dual boxing accounts need to be in the same name. |
| 17:47.13 | kenlyric | or the dangers of banstick are greater, apparently. |
| 17:47.25 | Obelixprime | Can multiple accounts have the same email address? |
| 17:47.44 | kenlyric | I didn't try when I created the trial. |
| 17:47.48 | kenlyric | but I would think not |
| 17:48.02 | Obelixprime | Because the migration to using your blizzard account to log into WotLK would mean that the email addresses have to be unique |
| 17:48.04 | Primer | Is there no way to separate toons from an account into a new account, if the toons are still relatively low level? |
| 17:48.19 | Primer | I've been wanting to get my son his own account, and his highest level toon is 35 |
| 17:48.21 | Obelixprime | as long as thier > level 10 they can be transferred I thought |
| 17:48.30 | Obelixprime | they're |
| 17:48.33 | kenlyric | sure, you can transfer |
| 17:48.47 | kenlyric | the accounts have to be at the same street address and have the same last name, to make it easier |
| 17:48.57 | Primer | well, it'd be on the same card too :) |
| 17:49.15 | kenlyric | the question though is if transferred toons get 3x xp |
| 17:49.26 | Primer | what do you mean? |
| 17:49.27 | kenlyric | since the summons can only be performed on new characters |
| 17:49.40 | Primer | you lost me |
| 17:49.44 | kenlyric | there's theory that the other bonuses only apply to new characters |
| 17:49.53 | kenlyric | you can only do the friend summons on a newly generated character |
| 17:49.58 | Primer | err |
| 17:50.02 | kenlyric | on the new account |
| 17:50.09 | Primer | I just want to move my son's toons to his own account |
| 17:50.15 | Primer | I don't care about this refer a friend shit |
| 17:50.31 | kenlyric | bah! |
| 17:50.39 | Primer | I just wanted to know if it was possible |
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| 17:51.28 | Primer | I was under the impression it wouldn't be |
| 17:51.44 | Primer | because I figured Blizz wanted to prevent selling of characters |
| 17:52.25 | Primer | I feel like such a noob some times not knowing all the wow acronyms...RNG? |
| 17:52.28 | Hjalte | Primer: afaik there's only the parent --> kid account thing. |
| 17:52.38 | Primer | Hjalte: that's perfect! |
| 17:53.30 | Hjalte | Primer: I know there's something like that, but I don't know where you can find info about it. |
| 17:53.57 | Aii | Primer: Random Number Generator |
| 17:54.12 | Aii | generally refers to anything based on random chance |
| 17:54.30 | Aii | "We lost that match due to rng" when a stormherald proc screws you over |
| 17:54.37 | Aii | or whatnot |
| 17:54.40 | kenlyric | like when my tanks in civ get killed by horsemen with muskets |
| 17:54.44 | kenlyric | screwed by rng |
| 17:55.04 | Aii | lol |
| 17:55.15 | Primer | hehe |
| 17:55.16 | Primer | thanks |
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| 18:02.47 | Primer | crap, I'd have to buy the game + TBC for a new account... |
| 18:03.39 | Primer | heh, my wife's gonna be pissed :) |
| 18:04.16 | Obelixprime | trial accounts are balls |
| 18:04.17 | Obelixprime | level 20 cap |
| 18:04.20 | Obelixprime | 10g cap |
| 18:04.27 | Obelixprime | level 100 profession cap |
| 18:04.51 | ashb | take the trial account then upgrade it |
| 18:04.56 | ashb | give oyu 10 free days |
| 18:05.21 | Obelixprime | the way i read it was that you get 90 days from when the account was created |
| 18:05.31 | Obelixprime | so you don't get 10 free days |
| 18:05.49 | ashb | maybe they changed it |
| 18:05.58 | ashb | but when i started this year it WFM |
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| 18:09.33 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: BasicComboPoints doesnt like it when I try to lock/unlock it: http://ace.pastey.net/93219 |
| 18:10.31 | Funkeh` | I fixed that Oo |
| 18:10.54 | Hjalte | Funkeh`: I'm using the latest version from files.wowace.com |
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| 18:12.08 | Hjalte | p3lim|afk: When visiting the options page for pMinimap, I get the following error: http://ace.pastey.net/93220 |
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| 18:12.36 | CIA-55 | 03funkydude * r79877 10BasicComboPoints/ (BasicComboPoints.lua BasicComboPoints.toc): BasicComboPoints: actually commit the lock fix I did a few months ago |
| 18:13.01 | Primer | Can anyone recommend an addon that can show the summary of an arena match, blow for blow? |
| 18:13.08 | Primer | presuming there is such a thing |
| 18:13.27 | Aii | er, define "blow for blow" |
| 18:13.55 | Funkeh` | :o |
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| 18:14.00 | Dashkal | summary and "blow for blow" appear to contradict somewhat... |
| 18:14.02 | Primer | like, the sequence of everything that happened |
| 18:14.14 | Aii | again, you're not being specific enough |
| 18:14.15 | Primer | at the very least, what was done to me |
| 18:14.17 | Dashkal | setup an appropriate filter and just read your log? |
| 18:14.20 | Aii | what do you consider "everything that happened" |
| 18:14.21 | Primer | I know the combat log has it |
| 18:14.44 | Primer | ok, I guess the combat log has filters and crap now |
| 18:14.47 | Primer | I keep forgetting that |
| 18:15.00 | Aii | look at the "What happened to me?" filter tab :P |
| 18:15.59 | Primer | sucks |
| 18:16.12 | Primer | well, hrmm |
| 18:16.42 | Primer | I suppose I also want persistent combat logging |
| 18:17.14 | Primer | bah, I just want a high arena rating |
| 18:17.18 | Primer | that's what I _REALLY_ want :) |
| 18:17.20 | ashb | recount (recap?) will give you a breakdown of what skills did what damage to who |
| 18:17.27 | ashb | but not in chronological order |
| 18:17.34 | Primer | ashb: yeah, I usually use recount, but yeah |
| 18:17.36 | Primer | no sequence |
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| 18:28.49 | CIA-55 | 03funkydude * r79878 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: |
| 18:28.49 | CIA-55 | StatBlockCore: |
| 18:28.49 | CIA-55 | - Create buttons with OnClick instead of frames to fix addons such as broker_professions |
| 18:28.49 | CIA-55 | - Fix the new alpha to actually work |
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| 18:37.51 | erikh | ckknight: hey, i finally got my server rebuilt |
| 18:37.53 | erikh | still need that work done? |
| 18:40.05 | ckknight | yea, if you can spare the time |
| 18:40.18 | ckknight | our solution will take roughly 18 days running on 1 computer |
| 18:40.20 | ckknight | :-P |
| 18:40.24 | ckknight | not that great |
| 18:40.31 | erikh | fair enough |
| 18:41.04 | erikh | ok, i'll put some effort into it today and probably start back up tomorrow afternoon, job interview tomorrow and I want to prep or it |
| 18:41.07 | erikh | s/or/for |
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| 18:49.16 | ShaneSveller | Does anyone know if there is an existing text list of WoW realms? or maybe XML? |
| 18:50.03 | Dashkal | if not you could scrape the realm status page |
| 18:50.29 | Aii | or just scrape http://www.wowrealmstatus.net/ |
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| 18:52.39 | ShaneSveller | I've looked at both, just checking to see if there was an easier solution. thanks. |
| 18:53.04 | ashb | something in LibTourist maybe? |
| 18:53.09 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: haha, I just did the A letter for home quest, evil ;D |
| 18:53.53 | Aii | http://www.wowwiki.com/Realms_List ShaneSveller ? |
| 18:54.40 | ShaneSveller | Aii: thanks, that's probably the most usable |
| 18:58.26 | ShaneSveller | Aii: worked quite well copying and pasting into notepad, ty |
| 19:00.23 | Dashkal | notepad? bah. curl piped through perl would be best ;) |
| 19:00.28 | ashb | wow china has a lot of servers |
| 19:02.22 | cncfanatics | ashb: they're also damn big :p |
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| 19:07.44 | jaxdahl2 | the financial model for wow is quite a bit different in china isn't it? |
| 19:08.52 | Fisker- | yes |
| 19:09.00 | Fisker- | it's per-hour charges instead |
| 19:09.18 | jaxdahl2 | can they play from home? |
| 19:09.24 | Fisker- | i think so |
| 19:09.25 | jaxdahl2 | are they billed by their ISP? |
| 19:09.32 | Fisker- | but i believe the majority play from netcafé's |
| 19:09.43 | Fisker- | they get billed through the9 |
| 19:10.07 | Fisker- | atleast as far as i know |
| 19:10.50 | jaxdahl2 | is there an english localization of the china wow version that english speakers can use if they are playing in china? |
| 19:11.14 | Fisker- | i don't know for the specific netcafés |
| 19:11.24 | Fisker- | but you can just use your normal client and connect to the servers from china |
| 19:11.28 | Fisker- | unless they are blocked of course |
| 19:13.47 | Primer | How exactly does one delete a frame? Or does one just not do that? |
| 19:14.28 | Dashkal | Primer: frames aren't discarded except on reload |
| 19:15.16 | Primer | ok |
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| 19:15.36 | CIA-55 | 03StingerSoft * r79879 10ag_UnitFrames/ (ag_UnitFrames.toc locales/ag_UnitFrames.ruRU.lua): ag_UnitFrames: added ruRU localization |
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| 19:18.04 | Lanerra | ~seen Phanx |
| 19:18.06 | purl | phanx <n=phanx133@adsl-69-228-193-135.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 56d 14h 5m 53s ago, saying: 'hurrah, forums are alive!'. |
| 19:18.22 | Lanerra | Doh... |
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| 19:43.49 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: pingaling |
| 19:43.57 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 19:44.09 | Josh_Borke | what libs i need to put options in wow interface options? |
| 19:44.31 | nevcairiel | acegui, aceoptions |
| 19:44.34 | Josh_Borke | ok, thanks |
| 19:45.04 | nevcairiel | *aceconfig |
| 19:45.09 | nevcairiel | its not named AceOptions =P |
| 19:45.20 | Josh_Borke | yea, i gotcha |
| 19:45.26 | Josh_Borke | though i'm thinking i might just do it without |
| 19:45.32 | erikh | heh, i wrote a fork/exec script to speed this crap up |
| 19:45.35 | Diao | hm |
| 19:45.45 | Diao | someone made a replacement for swlog finally |
| 19:45.46 | Josh_Borke | gd loottracker |
| 19:45.50 | Josh_Borke | i'm gonna have to rewrite it |
| 19:45.51 | Diao | i can get rid of sws! |
| 19:45.52 | Josh_Borke | frick |
| 19:47.08 | erikh | there we go |
| 19:47.13 | erikh | 6 parallels svn checkouts |
| 19:47.14 | Josh_Borke | current toc number? 20400? |
| 19:47.20 | Josh_Borke | o.O what? |
| 19:47.25 | Josh_Borke | don't kill teh server erikh |
| 19:47.38 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 19:47.46 | erikh | it's not working against wowace.com |
| 19:47.50 | erikh | local copy |
| 19:48.05 | erikh | that said, my disk is about to die |
| 19:48.20 | Industrial | erikh: files.wowace.com was made for a reason |
| 19:48.27 | selckin | how big is the repo? |
| 19:48.36 | Industrial | 1000+ in trunk |
| 19:48.42 | QuantumDelta | Does anyone want anything tested on WOTLK btw? |
| 19:48.45 | selckin | mb/gb? |
| 19:49.03 | Industrial | however I have an argument against the heavy use of externals on this svn server. |
| 19:49.32 | Industrial | I believe that tagging libraries and then using the library tag versions directly in your project as versioned files would be preferrable. |
| 19:49.42 | Industrial | assuming the tags are stable ofcourse :P |
| 19:50.05 | Industrial | every project having 15 externals to pull is ANOYING as hell |
| 19:50.07 | Industrial | :p |
| 19:50.16 | Industrial | not to mention totally unneeded. |
| 19:50.39 | Industrial | but hey its going to become WowaCurse(tm)(r) anyway so who cares |
| 19:50.45 | Funkeh` | it's in gb now |
| 19:50.48 | Funkeh` | trunk only |
| 19:50.49 | CIA-55 | 03pericles * r79880 10InventoryOnPar/ (4 files): (log message trimmed) |
| 19:50.49 | CIA-55 | InventoryOnPar: |
| 19:50.49 | CIA-55 | - |
| 19:50.49 | CIA-55 | v10.00 - Changed algorithms to cater for higher item levels for WotLK |
| 19:50.49 | CIA-55 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.50 | CIA-55 | v10.01 - Altered Rare/Epic ratio bonuses to new wiki values |
| 19:50.52 | CIA-55 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.58 | erikh | Industrial: i'm charged with a special project |
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| 19:51.02 | erikh | and i have a local copy |
| 19:51.04 | Funkeh` | it's a bout a gig |
| 19:51.20 | Funkeh` | 62k files/ 35k folders |
| 19:51.21 | Industrial | charged? |
| 19:51.27 | selckin | so mount it into memory |
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| 19:51.33 | selckin | so you dont' need to trash disk |
| 19:51.40 | selckin | 1gb is nottin :\ |
| 19:51.54 | Funkeh` | for a repo that is mostly text files? |
| 19:51.58 | Funkeh` | that's a joke right? |
| 19:52.08 | selckin | you need todo some kind of conversion i think? |
| 19:52.12 | selckin | would speed things up |
| 19:52.19 | erikh | selckin: ooh |
| 19:52.22 | erikh | good idea. |
| 19:52.24 | jaxdahl2 | anyone noticed the different item level scales in wotlk? |
| 19:53.15 | erikh | 3.9Gwowace.repo |
| 19:53.22 | erikh | that's the unpacked repo as of a week ago or so |
| 19:53.32 | selckin | ondisk size or real size? |
| 19:53.37 | erikh | that's du -sh |
| 19:53.42 | Funkeh` | trunk is a gig on disk |
| 19:53.49 | nevcairiel | i hope you have alot of memory =P |
| 19:53.54 | erikh | nevcairiel: I do :) |
| 19:54.10 | Funkeh` | I go looking for excuses to use more memory :/ |
| 19:54.27 | erikh | thank god I went through the hell of installing the 64-bit distro |
| 19:54.28 | Funkeh` | but it kicks my ass when I want 3 copies of wow |
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| 19:54.40 | Funkeh` | then again it's a laptop |
| 19:54.44 | Josh_Borke | wow isn't that memory intensive |
| 19:54.57 | CIA-55 | 03otravi * r79881 10oUF_QuickHealth/oUF_QuickHealth.lua: oUF_QuickHealth - Call UNIT_HEALTH with proper self. |
| 19:54.59 | Funkeh` | it's about 550-600mb |
| 19:55.04 | Josh_Borke | yea |
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| 19:55.07 | Josh_Borke | that's not that much |
| 19:55.07 | nevcairiel | about 600-1000 depending on what you do |
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| 19:55.19 | Josh_Borke | i expect it to use more :-P |
| 19:55.27 | Funkeh` | after wotlk it will |
| 19:55.29 | Funkeh` | ;p |
| 19:57.57 | Fisker- | Funkeh` my friend |
| 19:58.19 | Lyn_ | funkeh is funky |
| 19:58.53 | Funkeh` | Oo |
| 19:59.00 | Lyn_ | ^^ |
| 19:59.06 | Fisker- | he's my bestest friends |
| 19:59.12 | fewyn | ~lart Vulcanus |
| 19:59.12 | purl | declares Vulcanus a moron |
| 19:59.36 | Funkeh` | Can I disown you? |
| 19:59.54 | Lyn_ | oO |
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| 20:00.49 | Funkeh` | Lyn_, Secretly, I don't like Fisker- |
| 20:01.00 | Lyn_ | haha :P |
| 20:03.44 | Xuerian | Fisker- and Funkeh`. Hm. >_>.. Separated at birth? |
| 20:05.28 | Funkeh` | no, just no |
| 20:05.33 | Xuerian | No, no, think about it |
| 20:05.38 | Stanzilla | hugs Funkeh` |
| 20:05.50 | Xuerian | Both start with F... Both have two syllables.. Both end with a strange character for no reason... |
| 20:06.34 | Lyn_ | that scares me |
| 20:06.35 | Funkeh` | are you describing our nicknames or your 2 personalities? |
| 20:07.02 | Xuerian | I can see you TRIED to make a retort there, but it doesn't make any sense... 0_o |
| 20:07.34 | Lanerra | Could someone do me a favor make a pastey of how I could get Zone Text at the bottom of my minimap in pMinimap? |
| 20:07.35 | Primer | switching characters doesn't reloadui? |
| 20:07.35 | Funkeh` | Yes, I fail |
| 20:07.56 | Funkeh` | Primer, logging off saves variables, so yes it does |
| 20:08.44 | Primer | weird...I changed some code and changed characters...perhaps the code change had no effect... |
| 20:09.32 | Funkeh` | perhaps you forgot to press ctrl+s |
| 20:10.40 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79882 10AckisRecipeList/ARLFrame.lua: |
| 20:10.40 | CIA-55 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:10.40 | CIA-55 | - Fix ticket 29 by adding compatibility with Trade Tabs |
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| 20:13.28 | CIA-55 | 03morgalm * r79883 10MorgDKP/ (MorgDKP-deDE.lua MorgDKP.lua MorgDKP.toc): |
| 20:13.28 | CIA-55 | MorgDKP: |
| 20:13.28 | CIA-55 | - removed another unused translation from deDE |
| 20:16.38 | Primer | I'm trying to anchor a dropdown to the map, but I can't for the life of me figure it out |
| 20:16.54 | Primer | what frame should I anchor it against?\ |
| 20:16.59 | Primer | WorldMapDetailFrame? |
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| 20:21.40 | Ackis | can someone look at: http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibItemBonus-2.0/embeds.xml and tell me if it's correct? |
| 20:21.47 | Aii | nope |
| 20:22.08 | Ackis | it doesn't actually load the library... |
| 20:22.09 | Aii | we dun do that for the likes of you aroun' 'ere |
| 20:22.12 | Aii | :P |
| 20:22.15 | Ackis | ~last aii |
| 20:22.17 | Ackis | bah |
| 20:22.20 | Ackis | ~lart aii |
| 20:22.20 | purl | flings poo at aii |
| 20:22.20 | Aii | ~fail Ackis |
| 20:22.21 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Ackis. I hate you because you fail. |
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| 20:23.00 | Ackis | it looks like http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibItemBonus-2.0/embeds.xml needs a line: <Include file="libs\LibItemBonus-2.0\LibItemBonus-2.0\lib.xml"/> |
| 20:23.10 | Dashkal | Aii wins |
| 20:23.39 | CIA-55 | 03ammo * r79884 10ClassColoredNameplates/ (ClassColoredNameplates.lua ClassColoredNameplates.toc): ClassColoredNameplates: tweaks and X-Cat on toc |
| 20:23.51 | Aii | what are you trying to do again? |
| 20:23.52 | [Ammo] | it shouldn't load the lib |
| 20:23.57 | dafire_ | ~seen tekkub |
| 20:24.02 | purl | tekkub is currently on #wowprogramming (1h 38m 47s) #wowuidev (1h 38m 47s) #wowace (1h 38m 47s) #wowwiki (1h 38m 47s), last said: 'right, people who blur out ther own names when attempting to make someone else look like an ass, always look like MORE of an ass'. |
| 20:24.02 | [Ammo] | the .toc should load embeds.xml and lib.xml |
| 20:24.23 | Ackis | [Ammo]: how do you include it in your mod then? |
| 20:24.29 | [Ammo] | by including lib.xml |
| 20:24.32 | [Ammo] | ofcourse |
| 20:24.41 | [Ammo] | and you have to add the deps in your own .toc |
| 20:24.46 | [Ammo] | and make sure they load |
| 20:24.52 | Ackis | but isn't the standard way of doing it to include embeds.xml? |
| 20:24.56 | [Ammo] | this topic has been covered a gazillion times |
| 20:24.57 | [Ammo] | no |
| 20:25.08 | [Ammo] | I believe someone even wrote a wiki page on it |
| 20:25.17 | Ackis | that's what had me looking at it 2-3x, was everything else was embeds.xml, this was different |
| 20:25.41 | [Ammo] | no |
| 20:25.57 | [Ammo] | you include lib.xml in your addons whatever.xml or in the .toc |
| 20:26.11 | [Ammo] | embeds.xml in the lib itself is for standalone |
| 20:26.34 | Ackis | goes cross-eyed |
| 20:26.40 | CIA-55 | 03toadkiller * r79885 10AutoBar/ (15 files): |
| 20:26.40 | CIA-55 | AutoBar: |
| 20:26.40 | CIA-55 | -- 2.04.03.01 release |
| 20:26.40 | CIA-55 | -- Fix Stealth button not working for mages. |
| 20:26.40 | CIA-55 | -- Restore deleted keys in ruRU |
| 20:26.41 | CIA-55 | -- PowerShift Button for druids. Untested till after Thursday's raid. |
| 20:27.02 | Ackis | yes ok, my bad... there was just something about this one that made me look twice for some reason |
| 20:27.03 | Ironhand | can someone explain to me why Routes seems to delete a node from my route after I mine it? |
| 20:27.35 | Ironhand | (it doesn't delete the actual node, but it does change the route to no longer visit that node) |
| 20:29.09 | Funkeh` | No idea what font wow is using for the server list, but it shows as "???" for every russian server |
| 20:30.17 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79886 10WelfareEpics/ (. embeds.xml externals.txt): |
| 20:30.17 | CIA-55 | WelfareEpics: |
| 20:30.17 | CIA-55 | - Update embeds.xml and externals |
| 20:31.33 | Aii | Funkeh`: where |
| 20:31.47 | Funkeh` | hmm? |
| 20:31.55 | Aii | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:32.30 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 20:32.41 | Aii | shows where :P |
| 20:32.41 | Funkeh` | "the server list" |
| 20:32.49 | Aii | on the web? ingame? |
| 20:32.57 | Funkeh` | ingame |
| 20:33.08 | Aii | why do you have russian servers as an option? :P |
| 20:33.27 | Aii | I would assume they use a cyrillic font of some type in the ruRU client |
| 20:33.51 | Aii | and that font just isnt included in the other clients |
| 20:34.58 | Funkeh` | The eu client has all langueages |
| 20:35.26 | Ackis | ~api GetItemInfo |
| 20:35.26 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetItemInfo |
| 20:35.31 | Aii | mm |
| 20:35.35 | Aii | shrugs |
| 20:35.39 | Daemona | the funny thing is |
| 20:35.46 | Aii | donno then :) |
| 20:36.14 | Daemona | i didnt get a client update, where should the chyrillic font come from |
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| 20:37.18 | Funkeh` | I assumed it would come with 2.4.3 |
| 20:37.20 | Funkeh` | but it didn't |
| 20:37.38 | Funkeh` | I would expect this if I had customized my fonts |
| 20:37.46 | Funkeh` | But I haven't done that for the actual client |
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| 20:39.19 | Funkeh` | Is there a good texture I can use for a edgefile that doesn't make white look like grey? |
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| 20:42.00 | CIA-55 | 03ammo * r79887 10ClassColoredNameplates/ClassColoredNameplates.lua: ClassColoredNameplates: only scan for nameplates when worldframe children change, cache plates |
| 20:42.46 | ashb | who maintains ClassTimer? |
| 20:42.56 | Ominous__ | me |
| 20:43.04 | ashb | can i have an option to reverse the sort? |
| 20:43.11 | Ominous | ? |
| 20:43.19 | ashb | so grow up, but have shortest expiring at the bottom |
| 20:43.24 | Ominous | post it on forums please, raiding atm |
| 20:43.28 | ashb | okay |
| 20:43.37 | Ominous | there is a classtimer thread already |
| 20:43.44 | ashb | yeah i see it |
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| 20:44.32 | Ominous | will have a look later |
| 20:44.43 | WatchoutX | Hey there :) |
| 20:44.43 | ashb | might even have a patch for you by then |
| 20:45.02 | Ominous | well we only have maggy todo so it wont be long |
| 20:45.08 | Ominous | but by all means save me work :) |
| 20:45.16 | ashb | :) |
| 20:45.21 | WatchoutX | is anyone here in touch with the utf-8 library? |
| 20:45.33 | ashb | 'the utf-8 library'? |
| 20:46.04 | WatchoutX | there is only one I know of for LUA and I all ace addons use the same ;) |
| 20:46.13 | ashb | oh right |
| 20:46.16 | krka | WatchoutX: Lua is actually a portuguese word and it means "moon" |
| 20:46.18 | ashb | i wasn't aware one was needed |
| 20:47.02 | WatchoutX | ok lets say all ace addons that have to work on utf-8 strings ;P |
| 20:48.03 | Aii | (krka's comment to you, btw, was noting that 'LUA' isn't the correct way to refer to the language. 'Lua' is. :) |
| 20:48.29 | WatchoutX | blah |
| 20:48.52 | Matrix110 | awesome: One of our Elemental Shamans which has Felmyst DPS legs already since ages, got his 2nd pair today and wants to exchange it for healing, first he manages to put the healing gems inside the unexchanged legs and ontop of that he managed it to exchange his enchanted/gemmed dps legs for the healing legs, now he has a unenchanted Healing gemmed dps pair and a ungemmed healing pair |
| 20:49.23 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:49.25 | Aii | smooth, Matrix110 |
| 20:50.00 | ashb | smrt bunny there |
| 20:50.14 | WatchoutX | whatsoever... |
| 20:50.26 | Aii | ask him if he's interested in trading accounts, ill come raid with you instead :P |
| 20:51.39 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79888 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua: |
| 20:51.39 | CIA-55 | WelfareEpics: |
| 20:51.39 | CIA-55 | - Update embeds.xml and externals |
| 20:52.23 | Ackis | wow alt-F4 doesn't close a command window when you have a "pause" command running... lol |
| 20:52.33 | WatchoutX | does anyone of you know how the syntax like ("ABCDEF"):len() is handled in *Lua*? |
| 20:52.34 | Aii | auuuugh, im feeling so lethargic today :S |
| 20:53.04 | Aii | string.len("string") |
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| 20:53.42 | *** mode/#wowace [+v PProvost] by ChanServ |
| 20:53.50 | Aii | or strlen("string") |
| 20:53.54 | WatchoutX | Ackis, Bind F4 to any self-castable ability in wow, enable auto-dismount, close client with alt-F4 while in air - HF. |
| 20:54.10 | Ackis | :P |
| 20:54.18 | WatchoutX | Aii, 2nd is a WoW extension, not Lua-native |
| 20:54.40 | Aii | yes, hence why I gave you the first |
| 20:55.11 | Aii | but this is a wow addon channel, so I gave you the second as well :) |
| 20:55.44 | WatchoutX | well, but I meant "like" - since in BC when you add a function to string global, [string]:func will call that function, but in wotlk this doesn't work anymore |
| 20:55.51 | WatchoutX | or so it seems |
| 20:55.51 | Ackis | is there a library for tooltip scanning? |
| 20:56.02 | WatchoutX | acc |
| 20:56.18 | WatchoutX | Ackis, what kind of scanning, there is StatLogic |
| 20:56.59 | Ackis | WatchoutX: find out if something is a trinket, determine if it's a caster dps, healer item, melee dps, tank item |
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| 20:57.38 | Aii | WatchoutX: in general, object:methodname(...) is basically object.methodname(...) with the self argument passed as well |
| 20:58.02 | WatchoutX | Ackis, well, you'll have to work on the return values, but StatLogicLib will certainly help you with that |
| 20:58.06 | nevcairiel | object:method(...) == object.method(object, ...) |
| 20:58.13 | Aii | ^ |
| 20:58.27 | nevcairiel | its just syntax candy |
| 20:58.41 | WatchoutX | yeah, but strings are no objects |
| 20:59.13 | Aii | orly |
| 20:59.19 | nevcairiel | the string meta table should still hold the funcs |
| 20:59.43 | Aii | "The string library provides all its functions inside the table string. It also sets a metatable for strings where the __index field points to the string table. Therefore, you can use the string functions in object-oriented style. For instance, string.byte(s, i) can be written as s:byte(i)." |
| 20:59.47 | WatchoutX | well I can't access it :) |
| 21:00.30 | Aii | maybe the metatable's borked in the wotlk build then |
| 21:00.31 | nevcairiel | I bet one of the many addons i use on beta uses that syntax |
| 21:00.41 | Aii | shrugs |
| 21:00.51 | Aii | either that, or you're doing it wrong :P |
| 21:00.56 | Aii | what code is this, WatchoutX ? |
| 21:00.59 | nevcairiel | just try /dump ("foobar"):match("foo") |
| 21:01.02 | nevcairiel | and see what happens =P |
| 21:01.13 | WatchoutX | so well, in wotlk string contains my utf8len function, but when I use it on a string it throws a nil error :( |
| 21:01.34 | nevcairiel | do the other funcs work? |
| 21:01.44 | WatchoutX | default functions work |
| 21:01.45 | nevcairiel | maybe they changed something so you cannot add new stuff |
| 21:01.47 | Aii | does your utf8len handle getting "self" gracefully? |
| 21:02.06 | nevcairiel | they probably blocked adding stuff to it |
| 21:02.14 | Aii | probably |
| 21:02.25 | WatchoutX | #define: "my" is http://fish.wowace.com/browse/WowAce/trunk/StatLogicLib/UTF8/utf8.lua?r=StatLogicLib |
| 21:02.39 | Aii | why not just call utf8len(string) then :| |
| 21:03.09 | ckknight | WatchoutX: oh, they changed it in the restricted environment to make string's metatable index to be locked |
| 21:03.20 | WatchoutX | because it's a library that already exists and this stupid thing has no version checks, hence... it's ugly |
| 21:03.22 | ckknight | WatchoutX: so adding things to the string table no longer changes ('x')'s metaindex |
| 21:03.42 | WatchoutX | oh great :( |
| 21:03.52 | ashb | Ominous: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=6052.msg235237#msg235237 with patch attached cos it was dead easy to |
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| 21:04.19 | WatchoutX | ok who's up to make utf-8 an ace library? |
| 21:04.19 | Aii | so rewrite the library to not depend on changing base string tables ;) |
| 21:04.28 | Aii | why o.o |
| 21:04.43 | WatchoutX | don't have svn access :P |
| 21:04.55 | Aii | what stuff uses utf8? |
| 21:05.22 | WatchoutX | StatLogicLib ;) I think babel too |
| 21:05.32 | Aii | I meant what functionality in WoW |
| 21:05.51 | ashb | so what gets utf8 byte sequence and needs it to be chars |
| 21:05.51 | ckknight | Aii: every string is considered utf8 pretty much |
| 21:05.56 | WatchoutX | any item- char-, etc name |
| 21:05.58 | ckknight | player names, etc. |
| 21:06.00 | Aii | kk |
| 21:06.10 | Aii | that was my guess but never hurts to confirm what you dont know for sure ;) |
| 21:06.22 | WatchoutX | oh and BigWigs :P |
| 21:07.56 | Ominous | ashb, commit it if you have it svn checked out |
| 21:07.59 | Ominous | otherwise i will |
| 21:08.09 | ashb | dont have a svn user |
| 21:08.37 | Ominous | ashb: ok i will do it later |
| 21:08.43 | WatchoutX | btw... will ace move to curseforge? |
| 21:08.47 | CIA-55 | 03ammo * r79889 10oUF_Ammo/Ammo.lua: |
| 21:08.47 | CIA-55 | oUF_Ammo: fix aggro for raidframes |
| 21:08.47 | CIA-55 | adjust buff height and make it easier to adjust |
| 21:09.00 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=muffins@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:13.39 | Funkeh` | I mean seriously is it just my colorblindness or are these whites different http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=whitesmx7.png |
| 21:14.22 | Stanzilla | they are |
| 21:14.42 | Aii | looks like one has transparency set or something o.o the bottom one isnt pure white |
| 21:14.56 | Funkeh` | I can't seem to get it pure white |
| 21:15.07 | Aii | alpha? |
| 21:15.16 | Funkeh` | it's full |
| 21:15.25 | Stanzilla | smells like a texture problem |
| 21:15.31 | Aii | sounds textury, yep |
| 21:17.09 | WatchoutX | alpha is inherited in some cases |
| 21:18.08 | Gnarfoz | in all cases, actually, last I heard |
| 21:18.59 | Arrowmaster | wtf i just got a ton of CNN spam mail all with direct links to cnn.com but coming from fake addressed, and multiple copies of the same email all to the same address |
| 21:19.14 | ckknight | hey, who wants a WAR beta account? You have to be an addon author |
| 21:19.32 | jaxdahl2 | an addon author for WAR addons? |
| 21:19.45 | ckknight | no, WoW addons |
| 21:19.48 | jaxdahl2 | :p |
| 21:19.54 | ckknight | with the intent of making WAR addons |
| 21:20.06 | Gnarfoz | I'd rather take that wotlk beta key giveaway key, but it's been 2+ weeks by now, I'm kind of losing hope ^^ |
| 21:20.09 | jaxdahl2 | do you know what language they are using for war addons? |
| 21:20.11 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 21:20.13 | fewyn | wow is working |
| 21:20.19 | fewyn | and vent is working |
| 21:20.21 | fewyn | i win |
| 21:21.44 | ckknight | jaxdahl: lua, same as WoW |
| 21:21.48 | Arrowmaster | oh no wonder the cnn spam mail didnt make any sense, the html version has all fake links but the plaintext is completely clean |
| 21:21.55 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: hold on to hope, it's all we've got! |
| 21:22.06 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: true enough |
| 21:22.31 | Arrowmaster | proven again why html email is evil |
| 21:22.31 | Gnarfoz | while hope do everything() end >_> |
| 21:22.44 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: who reads html mail oO |
| 21:22.49 | Arrowmaster | not me |
| 21:23.02 | Arrowmaster | i only viewed the source to check it |
| 21:23.09 | jaxdahl2 | too bad my boycott of ea is still in effect |
| 21:23.33 | Arrowmaster | some places block html email at their mailserver |
| 21:23.45 | Gnarfoz | if I actually get mails from actual PEOPLE I know that isn't at least text+html (i.e. multipart), I ask them to re-send it in a sane format |
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| 21:23.56 | NivFreak | did mod author keys go out yet? |
| 21:24.05 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: ask the magical 8ball |
| 21:24.12 | ckknight | NivFreak: sadly, no |
| 21:24.13 | aestil | anyone know of a site that would have numbers for how much dps a spriest can add to a hunter/mage group? |
| 21:24.14 | Gnarfoz | ~8ball author keys sent yet? |
| 21:24.15 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 21:24.19 | Gnarfoz | purl lies |
| 21:24.20 | purl | the cake is a lie! |
| 21:24.21 | NivFreak | blizzard has interesting priorities |
| 21:24.30 | NivFreak | I knew 2 people who got random opt-in invites today |
| 21:24.33 | NivFreak | er |
| 21:24.36 | NivFreak | know |
| 21:24.42 | Matrix110 | maybe slouken is on holidays! |
| 21:24.47 | NivFreak | which makes that what, the 3rd batch? |
| 21:24.49 | Matrix110 | (or whoever works on getting the key out to authors) |
| 21:24.50 | Fisker- | you make addons, not test the game! |
| 21:25.12 | Arrowmaster | we test the blizzard ui! |
| 21:25.22 | Arrowmaster | and the api its built on! |
| 21:25.36 | Gnarfoz | or we don't |
| 21:25.45 | Arrowmaster | and claim we did? |
| 21:25.48 | Gnarfoz | depending on status of key-receiving |
| 21:25.51 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 21:25.55 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 21:26.14 | NivFreak | I just need to hold my guild together for another month or two |
| 21:26.14 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:26.32 | Primer | sigh...my kid just booted me from wow again by logging in from home...and he's creating yet ANOTHER character |
| 21:26.32 | Gnarfoz | same |
| 21:26.42 | Fisker- | reported |
| 21:26.43 | Primer | on an RP realm, no less |
| 21:26.45 | aestil | guild leader made the claim that a spriest adds about 100 dps to a mana using group, first about 250 dps dps added by an elemental shaman. this does not make sense to me. |
| 21:26.45 | NivFreak | Primer: password change |
| 21:26.57 | PProvost | Primer: Get the key dongle thingy |
| 21:27.01 | Primer | naw, I'm going to get him his own account |
| 21:27.08 | Fisker- | report yourself! |
| 21:27.09 | Gnarfoz | that's how you do it |
| 21:27.16 | Gnarfoz | also, refer him as a 'friend' |
| 21:27.17 | Primer | I only wish I could do that without actually BUYING the fucking game + TBC again |
| 21:27.17 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 21:27.34 | Primer | but I want to transfer his toons to that account |
| 21:27.35 | selckin | aestil: why doesn't it make sense? |
| 21:27.39 | Gnarfoz | that's how you create a new account, tho ;> |
| 21:27.44 | Primer | I wonder if I can refer myself as a friend... |
| 21:27.52 | Arrowmaster | you can |
| 21:27.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah, so? |
| 21:27.57 | Primer | really |
| 21:28.00 | Primer | hehe |
| 21:28.11 | Arrowmaster | use a different credit card though just incase |
| 21:28.12 | Gnarfoz | you can just refer him as your friend, too |
| 21:28.17 | aestil | well, i think it depends on the fight [brutalis would favor ele sha] but it seems like mana > totem |
| 21:28.27 | aestil | especailly since hunters + spriest is very strong. |
| 21:28.41 | aestil | i'm just looking for some hard theorycrafting. |
| 21:28.46 | Gnarfoz | (also, what is it with people having more than 1 CC? somehow from a non-US perspective, that doesn't make sense *at all*) |
| 21:29.13 | Primer | heh, I have 1 real CC, and a debit card, which can function as a CC |
| 21:29.17 | Primer | that's it |
| 21:29.18 | Diao | ? |
| 21:29.22 | Diao | multiple ccs build your credit better |
| 21:29.26 | jaxdahl2 | low credit limits on CCs |
| 21:29.31 | Gnarfoz | "build credit"? |
| 21:29.32 | aestil | you can have credit cards for multiple things. |
| 21:29.35 | Diao | yes |
| 21:29.37 | jaxdahl2 | Gnarfoz, ever hear of credit scores? |
| 21:29.38 | aestil | various kinds of purchases. |
| 21:29.40 | Gnarfoz | what does that mean |
| 21:29.42 | aestil | gas cards |
| 21:29.43 | Diao | in the credit system, you have a "score" |
| 21:29.44 | Gnarfoz | jaxdahl: nope |
| 21:29.46 | Primer | Gnarfoz: another American capitalist concept |
| 21:29.47 | Diao | the higher your score, the more you can borrow |
| 21:29.49 | Daemona | Primer just use gametime cards? and control his playtime via it ;) |
| 21:29.54 | Gnarfoz | wait... |
| 21:29.57 | jaxdahl2 | and the lower interest rate you can command on loans |
| 21:30.00 | Gnarfoz | they base how much money you don't have you can borrow |
| 21:30.03 | Primer | Daemona: it's not about controlling game time |
| 21:30.07 | Gnarfoz | by... measuring how much money you borrow? |
| 21:30.07 | Diao | basically |
| 21:30.10 | aestil | gnarfox no. |
| 21:30.10 | Daemona | you even get a trial account with the gametime card which you can convert into a full account |
| 21:30.11 | Daemona | ,) |
| 21:30.13 | jaxdahl2 | Gnarfoz, not really |
| 21:30.15 | Diao | if you have a history of using credit cards |
| 21:30.16 | Diao | and paying on time |
| 21:30.19 | Daemona | so you dont even need to buy the game |
| 21:30.21 | Diao | your score increases |
| 21:30.25 | Primer | I've just grown tired of having to share it with him, and have him boot me at odd times |
| 21:30.26 | aestil | the base how much you can borrow, on your history of paying back things you've already borrowed. |
| 21:30.27 | Diao | so you can borrow more at once |
| 21:30.30 | Gnarfoz | well, hm |
| 21:30.31 | jaxdahl2 | there are 3 credit bureaus in the united states that track your credit |
| 21:30.38 | Diao | so the more "trustworthy" you are |
| 21:30.39 | jaxdahl2 | late payments, average balance |
| 21:30.41 | Diao | the more they let you borrow at once |
| 21:30.43 | jaxdahl2 | credit limits |
| 21:31.02 | jaxdahl2 | no late payments, low balances, high credit limits, long history = high score |
| 21:31.31 | Primer | paradoxically, terminating a card == lower score |
| 21:31.38 | Gnarfoz | we'd base that directly on things like steady income, overall 'wealth' (owning a house? a car? or just a student living at the parent's, driving a bycicle? ^^) etc. (which, one could say, translate to "paying on time") |
| 21:31.40 | jaxdahl2 | some CCs give cash back bonuses for certain purchases |
| 21:31.54 | jaxdahl2 | so you might use one CC for some purchases and another CC for purchasing plane tickets, etc |
| 21:31.58 | Primer | Gnarfoz: except that doesn't work in a greed-driven society |
| 21:31.59 | Diao | Gnarfoz: that's what they use to evaluate getting a CC in the first place |
| 21:32.09 | Diao | if you qualify for the CC or not |
| 21:32.17 | Diao | then once you're qualified you can raise your credit limit |
| 21:32.37 | Gnarfoz | well, they adjust the credit limit on it based on that, too, here (at least they did when I had a CC from my actual bank) |
| 21:33.03 | jaxdahl2 | when you get a loan, the bank will pull your credit history and also verify income with your employer |
| 21:33.05 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I see how it works :) |
| 21:33.17 | jaxdahl2 | so they know you are able to pay stuff on time and will be able to afford future payments |
| 21:33.22 | Arrowmaster | also when traveling and going to smaller stores, it doesnt help that theres 3 major credit cards in the US, so it helps to have atleast 2 of them |
| 21:33.56 | jaxdahl2 | i've never been to a place that didn't accept visa, Arrowmaster |
| 21:34.03 | jaxdahl2 | i haven't been out of the USA though |
| 21:34.35 | Primer | Visa® Accepted Everywhere™ |
| 21:34.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah i have a visa i think and my debit card is mastercard, or its the other way around i dont really pay attention to it |
| 21:35.14 | Arrowmaster | parents have a ton of credit cards though |
| 21:35.15 | NivFreak | There were places in europe that didn't take visa |
| 21:35.15 | jaxdahl2 | there's an abstraction layer between merchants and the CC companies anyway |
| 21:35.20 | jaxdahl2 | the payment processors. |
| 21:35.33 | NivFreak | I don't recall where I had problems though |
| 21:35.38 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: yeah, that could happen. I think MasterCard has a higher market penetration here |
| 21:35.38 | NivFreak | might have been amsterdam? |
| 21:35.42 | NivFreak | yea |
| 21:35.44 | NivFreak | I had one of each |
| 21:35.44 | aestil | Gnarfoz: recently, i purchased a very large couch, for 3750 US |
| 21:35.49 | NivFreak | so I had to switch in a couple places |
| 21:36.01 | aestil | although, techincally, i could have come up with that money, all at once. it would have cramped my living for several months following. |
| 21:36.02 | Gnarfoz | which is because MasterCard "absorbed" Maestro, then the 3rd biggest CC here |
| 21:36.13 | aestil | instead, a credit card offer for no interest for 18 months in the mail. |
| 21:36.18 | jaxdahl2 | aestilm that's what buying used is for ;) |
| 21:36.26 | aestil | i got like 5500 in credit or something |
| 21:36.32 | aestil | bought my couch. |
| 21:36.34 | Gnarfoz | but having a MasterCard and a VISA should probably make you able to pay virtually everywhere ^^ |
| 21:36.40 | aestil | paid it off inside the 18 months. |
| 21:36.46 | aestil | without paying a penny in intrest. |
| 21:36.53 | Gnarfoz | neat |
| 21:36.58 | Aii | and having mastercard, visa, and amex will definitely make you able to |
| 21:36.59 | aestil | i didn't NEED another credit card |
| 21:37.01 | jaxdahl2 | aestil, cc companies hate people like you :) |
| 21:37.02 | Gnarfoz | (although, weird, too in a sense) |
| 21:37.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats the other thing, some cards have no intrest on certain purchases |
| 21:37.10 | aestil | but i was able to use it to my advantage |
| 21:37.24 | Aii | I pay off my credit card within the same month. |
| 21:37.25 | jaxdahl2 | applying for too many CCs in a short period of time can ding your score though |
| 21:37.26 | Aii | :P |
| 21:37.31 | aestil | i bought my wife's engagment ring on a similar offer 6 years ago. |
| 21:37.38 | Arrowmaster | mostly store credit cards, so if you use the correct card you have no intrest for over a year |
| 21:37.40 | jaxdahl2 | i pay my cc off twice monthly |
| 21:37.53 | jaxdahl2 | so i'm never tempted to carry a large balance on it |
| 21:37.57 | aestil | to keep track of your spending in shorter bursts than 1 month? |
| 21:38.24 | jaxdahl2 | it's also easier to verify the purchases since i can remember what i bought in the last 2 1/2 weeks |
| 21:38.26 | jaxdahl2 | to detect fraud |
| 21:38.43 | aestil | my credit card company has stopped fraud before. |
| 21:39.02 | aestil | once we got a call on a sunday morning saying 'did you try to withdraw 500 dollars in cash from an atm in santa monica?' |
| 21:39.04 | aestil | [no] |
| 21:39.14 | aestil | ok, we send you new credit cards overnight. |
| 21:39.16 | aestil | bam. |
| 21:39.18 | aestil | wicked. |
| 21:39.19 | jaxdahl2 | i once bought some software from france and my cc company suspended my card :(, called them and straightened it out |
| 21:39.33 | Gnarfoz | I only have my MasterCard (gold, too, for some reason) to be able to buy stuff (online or "offline" - that is, when travelling ;)) from stores that are outside the EU and for some reason don't accept paypal. |
| 21:39.43 | WatchoutX | anyone already checked out the new threat stuff in wotlk? |
| 21:39.52 | Trell_ | this isnt ace nor addon related, but I'm hoping someone can help me a little here - I use Fraps to record in game footage - full size, 1280x1024 - then drop it into premiere pro, and export for youtube (only unless someone can't suggest a better service). my problem is that it looks fine on the export (ive tried wmv, h264 and avi) but then on youtube it looks amazingly bad, |
| 21:39.53 | Trell_ | even more than you'd expect |
| 21:39.58 | aestil | i'm working through some credit card debt right now. |
| 21:39.59 | Aii | more of us would if we had beta access, WatchoutX :P |
| 21:40.00 | Trell_ | has anyone got any tips or suggestions? |
| 21:40.05 | Xuerian | WatchoutX: There's a thread on it in the beta forums |
| 21:40.08 | aestil | a few years ago, my income changes drastically, VERY quickly, and for a few months we lived outside our means before we could make the approrpirate adjustments. |
| 21:40.09 | Gnarfoz | and it's free, anyway ^^ (interest rate is ... I dunno. only kicks in after a month, so I have plenty of time to pay it off in time) |
| 21:40.14 | WatchoutX | Xuerian, link? |
| 21:40.18 | Arrowmaster | Trell_: its because you are using youtube |
| 21:40.20 | Xuerian | WatchoutX: lazy |
| 21:40.34 | Trell_ | Arrowmaster: it's coming out even worse than I'd expect from using Youtube |
| 21:40.40 | Xuerian | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202657009&sid=2000 |
| 21:40.44 | WatchoutX | Xuerian, us-forums? |
| 21:40.44 | Trell_ | ie, instead of still being vaguely watchable, it's totally unwatchable |
| 21:41.03 | Gnarfoz | Trell_: also, 5:4 is a shit aspect ratio |
| 21:41.17 | Gnarfoz | try cropping/resizing to 4:3, youtube's converter might do better with that, if you're lucky |
| 21:41.20 | Arrowmaster | thats because its a high res video and they are resizing it |
| 21:41.34 | Trell_ | so resize during the original encode, before upload |
| 21:41.38 | Trell_ | I'll give that a try |
| 21:41.39 | Gnarfoz | oh, that, too |
| 21:41.45 | Gnarfoz | you uploaded the video as 1280x1024? |
| 21:41.50 | Trell_ | yeah |
| 21:41.58 | Xuerian | Trell_: http://vimeo.com/ has pretty nice quality |
| 21:41.58 | jaxdahl2 | Trell_, google 'premiere pro youtube' |
| 21:42.00 | jaxdahl2 | for tips |
| 21:42.02 | Gnarfoz | I envy your upstream bandwidth while boggling at your naivity ;) |
| 21:42.09 | Arrowmaster | Xuerian: not anymore |
| 21:42.10 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: doesn't allow gaming videos anymore |
| 21:42.13 | Xuerian | oh wtf |
| 21:42.14 | Trell_ | I know Xuerian: they stopped upload of gaming stuff |
| 21:42.17 | NivFreak | Xuerian: we stopped using vimeo |
| 21:42.19 | Xuerian | bs >_o |
| 21:42.22 | WatchoutX | Xuerian, thanks |
| 21:42.27 | NivFreak | Xuerian: since video game footage is against thier ToS |
| 21:42.28 | Xuerian | oh lord pings |
| 21:42.33 | Trell_ | Gnarfoz; I used ot use Vimeo - hence my naivity |
| 21:42.35 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: hai |
| 21:42.48 | Trell_ | never ever had a problem with it, I could basically dump straight out of Premiere into Vimeo |
| 21:42.48 | Gnarfoz | Trell_: I can see how one could lead to the other, true enough ;) |
| 21:42.50 | Trell_ | without any problems |
| 21:43.32 | Xuerian | http://www.wegame.com/ then maybe? |
| 21:43.45 | Trell_ | mm I tried that |
| 21:43.56 | Trell_ | but I'll give it another go, and mess with the sizing while I encode |
| 21:44.11 | Xuerian | (Why, why did divx have to be stupid and fuck up stage6) |
| 21:44.22 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: they didn't fuck it up, they closed it |
| 21:44.26 | Xuerian | No, they fucked it up |
| 21:44.31 | Xuerian | They didn't sell out when they could've |
| 21:44.33 | Gnarfoz | for the same reason, vimeo disallowed gaming videos. |
| 21:44.35 | Gnarfoz | to whom |
| 21:44.43 | Gnarfoz | no one buys a bandwidth-guzzler like s6 |
| 21:44.44 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 21:44.59 | Xuerian | In the hullabaloo that happened when they closed down, they mentioned that they turned down a buyout offer earlier on, before deciding to just close it down |
| 21:45.10 | Gnarfoz | but go ahead, suggest selling out to the vimeo guys ;) |
| 21:45.20 | Trell_ | Vimeo is awesome |
| 21:45.25 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Your cynical logic is annoying me |
| 21:45.26 | Trell_ | just the gaming change sucks :( |
| 21:45.30 | Gnarfoz | perhaps they can still come around and be our new s6 :D |
| 21:45.50 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: that reminds me of MoonWitch's forum avatar, thanks ;p |
| 21:46.40 | Gnarfoz | oh btw :\ on beta, XLoot1.0's config doesn't work, like, at all. nothing shows up in the options panel :( |
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| 21:47.11 | Pkekyo| | any brits around here tonight? |
| 21:47.18 | Gnarfoz | I can pretend to be one |
| 21:47.24 | Trell_ | sort of Pkekyo| |
| 21:47.31 | Trell_ | emigrated to Spain, but go on ;) |
| 21:47.35 | Xuerian | Trell_: gamevee.com, too |
| 21:47.48 | Pkekyo| | Trell_: any idea if they make goretex DDPM? :P |
| 21:48.10 | Gnarfoz | what's that got to do with brits? :\ |
| 21:48.20 | Trell_ | here was my first try on those two sites - bear in mind quality is shite. http://www.wegame.com/watch/Death_Knight_Gameplay/ http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/World_of_Warcraft/PC/DK_Gameplay/451626 |
| 21:48.26 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Going to guess It's a Ace3 thing... I heard something about needing to use the wotlk branch for it. Though that's just hit, heard something |
| 21:48.27 | Pkekyo| | oh...just about everything, as they're the only ones using DDPM? |
| 21:48.43 | Xuerian | just it* |
| 21:48.54 | WatchoutX | again no EU forum for ui and macros... |
| 21:49.00 | Trell_ | Pkekyo| - I can't help you >_< |
| 21:49.09 | Pkekyo| | dooh |
| 21:49.09 | Pkekyo| | any other brits? |
| 21:49.10 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: don't think so, because for that exact reason, I'm using the Ace3 wotlk branch (which doesn't really contain any fixes regarding that functionality, if I'm not mistaken) standalone and remove all embedded libs :\ |
| 21:49.58 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Bleerghasrdsflkwerjsd.. I'm just going to screw using Ace at all here soon. Afaik, I use the prescribed method of doing options, hell, it's the way Ag did it |
| 21:50.04 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: well, users = makers? (I don't even know what it stands for, but from memory, you're into... bouncing? bodyguard? stuff? so I guess it's some personal armor stuff again ;)) |
| 21:50.24 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: hm. |
| 21:50.26 | Gnarfoz | ~lart ag` |
| 21:50.26 | purl | beats ag` senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 21:50.28 | Gnarfoz | :) |
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| 21:50.41 | jaxdahl2 | ~lart jaxdahl2 |
| 21:50.41 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up jaxdahl2 |
| 21:50.44 | CIA-55 | 03archarodim * r79890 10Decursive/ (5 files): |
| 21:50.44 | CIA-55 | Decursive: |
| 21:50.44 | CIA-55 | - Updated WhatsNew.txt and QuoiDeNeuf.txt |
| 21:50.44 | CIA-55 | - Version to 2.2.0 RC1 |
| 21:50.47 | ag` | Don't lart me!? |
| 21:50.52 | Xuerian | Probably not his fault though, I haven't had a chance to test anything on beta |
| 21:50.53 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: DDPM is the desert camouflage pattern used by the british armed forces |
| 21:50.56 | Pkekyo| | and yes, I'm a bouncer |
| 21:51.02 | Xuerian | seeing as blizz is sending everyone but authors keys |
| 21:51.38 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: yeah, I'm lucky enough to have a guy in my guild who knows someone at blizz (however the hell he knows someone at blizz, being from germany and all oO) |
| 21:51.47 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: oddly enough, the trunk xloot supposedly works on beta |
| 21:52.05 | Gnarfoz | huh oO I'm only using the 1.0 branch because the one from trunk didn't work when I tried |
| 21:52.08 | Gnarfoz | weird |
| 21:52.12 | Pkekyo| | also, why would I want waterproof, breathing armor? :p |
| 21:52.22 | Xuerian | It's listed in functional addons on the beta forum.. wtf 0.o |
| 21:52.54 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79891 10WelfareEpics/ (WelfareEpics.lua WelfareEpics.toc): |
| 21:52.54 | CIA-55 | WelfareEpics: |
| 21:52.54 | CIA-55 | - Properly filter stuff |
| 21:52.55 | CIA-55 | - Filter into tabs correctly now |
| 21:52.55 | CIA-55 | - Few bugs and stuff to wrinkle out still :) |
| 21:52.57 | WatchoutX | Xuerian, I'm an author :D |
| 21:53.12 | WatchoutX | Though I didn't get it from the wowinterface... |
| 21:53.12 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: ah right, I remember that pattern stuff. why you would want it, I can only speculate, and if you're not, but open to idle chatting, do tell what your question beyond "ask to ask" was going to be ;) |
| 21:53.21 | Xuerian | Greh, who from, WatchoutX? |
| 21:54.09 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: semi-efficient goretex camouflage for wintertime :p |
| 21:54.10 | WatchoutX | I know someone who really likes DruidStats :P |
| 21:54.14 | CIA-55 | 03bluediva * r79892 10DrumLogic/DrumLogic.lua: DrumLogic: added whisper support |
| 21:54.30 | Xuerian | Blargh |
| 21:54.34 | ag` | they better hand out those wowinterface keys soon :D! |
| 21:54.37 | Xuerian | Damn people with connections. >_o |
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| 21:55.10 | WatchoutX | Xuerian, find yourself your own GM that likes your addons :P |
| 21:55.14 | Gnarfoz | ag`: >:[ yes they better! |
| 21:55.15 | Pkekyo| | never actually saw DDPM in snow, but I figure it's better than forest cammies |
| 21:55.41 | ag` | thing is I don't like GMs |
| 21:55.43 | Gnarfoz | so, desert pattern + snow sounds... weird? there is snow/winter camouflage patterns, isn't there? |
| 21:56.19 | Pkekyo| | well, there's those white coveralls you just throw on over your regular goretex |
| 21:56.34 | WatchoutX | ag`, well, some are evil, but many are nice |
| 21:56.56 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: just figured it'd work better than green x) |
| 21:57.05 | ckknight | oh no, ag` is being ungrateful about Blizzard giving away keys, someone'd better blow up in his face, quick! |
| 21:57.15 | WatchoutX | hehe |
| 21:57.16 | Gnarfoz | ag`: oh btw, I had to lart you, Xuerian said the config stuff he absorbed from your PhatLoot doesn't actually work on beta, so it's obviously your fault! |
| 21:57.19 | ag` | yeah, hurry! |
| 21:57.35 | Gnarfoz | somehow, I remind myself of a certain infamous troll that is now banned here |
| 21:57.40 | Pkekyo| | and I can't afford the damn norwegian goretex...it's 4k quid :p |
| 21:57.42 | Pkekyo| | 400 quid |
| 21:57.43 | Xuerian | 0_o |
| 21:58.00 | ag` | sounds more like betas or ace3s fault, I'm using the stuff the way I'm supposed to |
| 21:58.01 | ckknight | ag`: (Tem blew up on me when I was complaining about the keys not coming yet) |
| 21:58.12 | Gnarfoz | all other ace3 addons work "out of the box" for me, so far :\ |
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| 21:58.36 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: For kicks and giggles, try phatloot |
| 21:58.41 | Gnarfoz | lol I could |
| 21:58.54 | WatchoutX | hmm, yeah... though I hate the this change... |
| 21:58.56 | ag` | ckknight, :/ |
| 21:59.02 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: so, basically, you were inquiring about its existance, rather than a way to obtain it... I figured it out now. yay! |
| 21:59.33 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: correctemundo |
| 21:59.43 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: did you save some for later, or did you just leave it all for the cleaning squad? |
| 21:59.54 | ckknight | cleaning squad? |
| 21:59.55 | Pkekyo| | I am aware of regular DPM goretex and how to obtain it, but never even saw DDPM goretex |
| 21:59.58 | Gnarfoz | well, he blew up |
| 21:59.59 | Gnarfoz | didn't he |
| 22:00.00 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 22:00.00 | ag` | I don't know why people need to be righteous and all that, it isn't the fansites that's complained about, it is dear old blizzy :D |
| 22:00.03 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:00.10 | Gnarfoz | oh right, this didn't occur in meatspace, probably :^^ |
| 22:00.13 | Xuerian | QFT |
| 22:00.26 | ckknight | ag`: well, my issue isn't that they haven't arrived, it's that we keep being told just one more day, one more day |
| 22:00.32 | ckknight | there's no set date when they'll send em |
| 22:00.59 | ag` | blizzard never gives dates |
| 22:01.04 | ag` | for anything |
| 22:01.07 | ckknight | still lame |
| 22:01.19 | durcyn | RSN, man. |
| 22:01.28 | durcyn | Rael Soon Now |
| 22:01.32 | durcyn | real, ffs |
| 22:01.35 | WatchoutX | ckknight, I think it's worse that I can't - AGAIN - post on any forum thats read by blizzard ... |
| 22:01.36 | Xuerian | I think that's ckk's issue, people are saying one more day when blizz isn't. Or is blizz saying one more day too? |
| 22:02.02 | ckknight | Xuerian: Blizz hinted at the 1st |
| 22:02.06 | Gnarfoz | well, our issue is: random opt-in invites have been sent twice by now, how could verifying the lists supplied by the fan sites take longer than pressing the "send out 500 random keys" button once a week... (or how come they are eager to send out *random* keys, but not pre-selected ones) |
| 22:02.07 | Dashkal | blizz is silent. I haven't heard _anything_ from blizz directly |
| 22:02.08 | ckknight | which has come and gone |
| 22:02.14 | ckknight | yea, Blizz hasn't said anything in a while |
| 22:02.21 | ckknight | all we can do is hold hands and pray |
| 22:02.38 | Gnarfoz | see the part about 'hope' earlier |
| 22:02.39 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 22:02.40 | ag` | I don't know why they don't, they say it is because people would complain if they missed a date, but now people just complain because they don't give dates. It is the same either way, so why not just give dates blizzard? :P |
| 22:02.44 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: And guild invites |
| 22:03.01 | Dashkal | even if they don't want to give a date, a mention of the holdup would be nice... |
| 22:03.05 | ckknight | ag`: they send invites to random opt-ins still |
| 22:03.08 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: yeah, guild invites! (what are you talking about?) |
| 22:03.51 | Xuerian | Someone posted a guild invite email (Sans the codes, obviously) |
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| 22:04.17 | Gnarfoz | oh, they do that? |
| 22:04.20 | ag` | as far as I can recall addon devs had their keys pretty early with BC |
| 22:04.24 | Gnarfoz | that's... both awesome and horrible at the same time |
| 22:04.32 | WatchoutX | well of course they like having some powergamer guilds in testing |
| 22:04.44 | ckknight | ag`: yea, about a week after submission |
| 22:05.39 | WatchoutX | well they have to level up for endgame content too :) |
| 22:08.08 | WatchoutX | hmm... how do you create a font-string in lue *cough* |
| 22:08.19 | Gnarfoz | CreateFontString()? |
| 22:08.37 | Gnarfoz | local f2s = f2:CreateFontString("f2s", "BACKGROUND", "28d") |
| 22:08.41 | Gnarfoz | from one of my addons |
| 22:09.06 | Gnarfoz | params are (these are not all that can be there!): name, parent, font |
| 22:09.06 | WatchoutX | hmm, funny, it's not in the wowapi list on wowwiki |
| 22:09.12 | Gnarfoz | !api CreateFontString |
| 22:09.12 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'CreateFontString'. |
| 22:09.19 | Gnarfoz | wowwiki fails for api, sadly |
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| 22:09.24 | Gnarfoz | !api Frame:CreateFontString |
| 22:09.24 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Frame:CreateFontString'. |
| 22:09.25 | Gnarfoz | !api Frame:CreateFontString() |
| 22:09.26 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Frame:CreateFontString()'. |
| 22:09.33 | Gnarfoz | and I fail at using that bot |
| 22:09.38 | WatchoutX | hehe |
| 22:09.44 | WatchoutX | where's better api? |
| 22:09.44 | Pneumatus | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateFontString |
| 22:09.49 | Gnarfoz | there --^ |
| 22:09.52 | Pneumatus | fontString = Frame:CreateFontString(name[, layer[, inherits]]) |
| 22:10.30 | Gnarfoz | it's what the bot would have pointed to, if I had the IQ of 231 that is required to use it |
| 22:10.32 | WatchoutX | oh I see thanks |
| 22:10.37 | Gnarfoz | sadly, I'm stuck at 229 |
| 22:10.56 | Pneumatus | level up on them immune mobs in blasted lands |
| 22:11.01 | WatchoutX | does it support wildcards? |
| 22:11.02 | Pneumatus | hit them with your intellect |
| 22:11.03 | WatchoutX | !api *FontString* |
| 22:11.04 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '*FontString*'. |
| 22:11.21 | WatchoutX | !api Frame |
| 22:11.22 | lua_bot | Found 17 possible matches for 'Frame'. Please be more specific |
| 22:11.28 | WatchoutX | damn you! |
| 22:11.54 | Gnarfoz | !api Frame CreateFontString |
| 22:11.54 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Frame CreateFontString'. |
| 22:11.57 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 22:12.11 | Gnarfoz | !api Frame CreateFontString() |
| 22:12.11 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Frame CreateFontString()'. |
| 22:12.16 | Gnarfoz | ah forget it :p |
| 22:12.18 | Pneumatus | anyone know why adding textures through AddLine() to tooltips is causing weird text wrapping issues? |
| 22:12.21 | Lanerra | !api CreateFontString |
| 22:12.21 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'CreateFontString'. |
| 22:12.25 | Lanerra | Weird |
| 22:12.30 | Gnarfoz | Lanerra: we've been there before ;P |
| 22:12.36 | Lanerra | Just go to WoWWiki or wowprogramming.com |
| 22:12.43 | Gnarfoz | no, just go to the latter |
| 22:12.54 | Lanerra | Whatever suits your fancy :P |
| 22:12.59 | Gnarfoz | the former is neither complete nor up to date anymore, sadly |
| 22:13.05 | Pneumatus | for some reason, even if the tooltip is plenty wide enough for the string its wrapping the last word onto a new line |
| 22:13.25 | WatchoutX | Gnarfoz, it's only as up to date as the users that edit it *hinthint* |
| 22:13.43 | Gnarfoz | WatchoutX: yeah, like I'm going to rip clad's work and update wowwiki with it :\ |
| 22:14.00 | Lanerra | Have you tried changing the font size, Gnarfox? |
| 22:14.05 | Lanerra | Gnarfoz* |
| 22:14.09 | Gnarfoz | what? what font size |
| 22:14.35 | Lanerra | Oh, that was Pneumatus that said that. My bad |
| 22:14.38 | Gnarfoz | I think that should have gone to Pneumatus ^^ |
| 22:14.41 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 22:14.57 | Pneumatus | Lanerra: no, im not even sure how i'd change the font size for a specific line in a tooltip o.O |
| 22:15.20 | Lanerra | Depends on what your'e using |
| 22:15.20 | WatchoutX | Gnarfoz, no idea what you meant by that ;) |
| 22:15.54 | Pneumatus | Lanerra: tooltip:AddLine() |
| 22:17.02 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder if its something to do with using custom fonts |
| 22:17.12 | Lanerra | GameTooltip:AddLine(tooltipText [, textColor.r, textColor.g, textColor.b [, wrapText]]); |
| 22:17.29 | Lanerra | Set wrapText to nil |
| 22:17.53 | Pneumatus | i've just disabled all other addons and its not wrapping... |
| 22:17.54 | Gnarfoz | WatchoutX: by that I mean clad|away both created and runs that site (as an extension to his (and cogwheel's (and kaelten's)) book), and I figure creating an up to date an complete api reference must have been quite some work |
| 22:17.59 | Pneumatus | there's some weird tooltipfu going on here |
| 22:18.04 | Lanerra | That would be a problem, too |
| 22:18.48 | Pneumatus | im guessing it could be ratingbuster |
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| 22:19.11 | Hjalte | is there a damage meter working for beta? |
| 22:19.22 | WatchoutX | Gnarfoz, I figure much of it is a copy of wowwiki, no offense |
| 22:20.46 | Gnarfoz | I can't take offense, I'm not even involved. but: I somehow doubt that, that would be a bad point to start from if you're writing a book and want straight facts as a source ("strings wow.exe" on current, and older wow builds, maybe), rather than stuff anyone on the internet can modify |
| 22:21.06 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: recount works... somewhat |
| 22:21.45 | Gnarfoz | you have to show the window by going the interface options -> addons -> recount -> toggle UI route because for some reason the slash command doesn't work, even though it's ace (and ace's slash handling stuff *was* fixed for beta) |
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| 22:22.01 | sacarasc | !rating 1498 |
| 22:22.01 | Xinhuan | 1498 rating gives 343(5s), 302(3s) and 261(2s) arena points. (Use !points for inverse calc) |
| 22:22.27 | Elsia | heya |
| 22:22.59 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: fantastic timing, we were just talking about something you're involved with ;) |
| 22:23.18 | Pneumatus | hmm, its one of my fubar addons cocking the tooltips up... |
| 22:23.20 | sacarasc | !points 289 |
| 22:23.20 | Xinhuan | 289 arena points require 1250(5s), 1430(3s) and 1533(2s) team rating. |
| 22:23.24 | Elsia | finally that 1million dollar don ation? ;) |
| 22:23.30 | ashb | !points 5 |
| 22:23.30 | Xinhuan | 5 arena points require -40(5s), -37(3s) and -33(2s) team rating. |
| 22:23.32 | ashb | ;-; |
| 22:23.44 | Lanerra | lol |
| 22:24.01 | Lanerra | !points 1200 |
| 22:24.01 | Xinhuan | 1200 arena points require 2125(5s), 2337(3s) and INF(2s) team rating. |
| 22:24.01 | KriLL3 | can you have sub 0 rating? |
| 22:24.12 | KriLL3 | inf raiting! |
| 22:24.18 | KriLL3 | we're the masters of the universe! |
| 22:24.22 | Lanerra | Hellz yeah! |
| 22:24.35 | Elsia | gnarfoz: so what's up? |
| 22:24.40 | Daemona | hmm hmm is there a way to list all addons that have wotlk versions in /branches ? |
| 22:24.52 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: nothing, really, unless you want whines on Recount's state on wotlk beta ;) |
| 22:25.06 | Elsia | sure, whine away |
| 22:25.31 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: not sanely, really ;\ I do visit fish for /branches once a day, though, to keep up to date those that do |
| 22:25.57 | Daemona | anything beside aguf and bartender4 that i need to look out for? |
| 22:26.01 | KriLL3 | I just bought 4 ["Gigantique" Bag] ... |
| 22:26.04 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: the /recount show (or toggle) slash command doesn't work for starters, I can only open the main window through the interface options |
| 22:26.17 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: ace2, ace3, parrot if you use that |
| 22:26.28 | Elsia | gnar: that's an ace3 problem |
| 22:26.40 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: shouldn't be |
| 22:26.44 | Daemona | well ace2/3 should be taken care of when checking out addons with externals... |
| 22:26.58 | WatchoutX | ok who do I have to bribe to get svn access? |
| 22:27.07 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: no? trunk versions of addons don't include branch versions of ace2/3 |
| 22:27.11 | Elsia | gnar: recount uses ace3config for slash commands ;) |
| 22:27.13 | Gnarfoz | WatchoutX: read the svn, etc. |
| 22:27.18 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: so what? :) |
| 22:27.25 | Pneumatus | ive found the culprit! |
| 22:27.29 | Elsia | if slash commands don't work it's an ace3 bug |
| 22:27.34 | Gnarfoz | they do |
| 22:27.36 | Gnarfoz | just not for recount. |
| 22:27.41 | Pneumatus | but the question is, what the hell is HonorFuPlus doing cocking around with my GameTooltips |
| 22:27.46 | Daemona | Gnarfoz i check out from /branches |
| 22:27.47 | Aii | WatchoutX: http://wowace.com/wiki/SVN_Rules |
| 22:27.54 | Gnarfoz | actually, let me give you the actual error, Elsia :) |
| 22:27.57 | Elsia | ok |
| 22:28.08 | Daemona | which should result in the appropiate branches for wotlk for the externals too, shouldnt it? |
| 22:28.13 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: some branch addons probably don't even include branch ace2/3 (:D) |
| 22:28.17 | Gnarfoz | no, not at all |
| 22:28.33 | Daemona | ok... so checking out branched ace2/3 too just to be safe ;) |
| 22:28.37 | Gnarfoz | at least not until sets the externals that way |
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| 22:28.54 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's what I'm doing - and removing the embedded ones from addons, just in case |
| 22:29.09 | WatchoutX | Gnarfoz, meh I don't want to create yet another wiki account... when I ever loose my firefox profile, I'll be totally lost... |
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| 22:29.23 | Gnarfoz | don't remind me of firefox profile loss |
| 22:29.26 | Gnarfoz | it's horrible :(* |
| 22:29.53 | Aii | just use a shared password for things that arent really security sensitive if you cba to remember them :P |
| 22:30.01 | WatchoutX | well, mine's backupped every day... during raid time *cough* |
| 22:30.03 | Daemona | wow |
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| 22:30.15 | Daemona | just wow... i just got GANKED in a BASE by a HOLY paladin |
| 22:30.21 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 22:30.21 | Daemona | guards did crap |
| 22:30.24 | Diao | lol |
| 22:30.26 | Gnarfoz | by a holy pally? |
| 22:30.27 | Diao | how did that happen |
| 22:30.29 | Aii | ownt |
| 22:30.44 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: what's your name on beta btw? ^^ |
| 22:30.47 | Daemona | and just because i have a PVP quest in my log ... |
| 22:30.57 | Daemona | you may exactly think about that question once... |
| 22:31.13 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: ... I somehow get the suspicion that I fucked up the revert of the slashcmd handler "fix" for wotlk builds prior to 8681 |
| 22:31.51 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: I can think about it inifinity times because unless you're a mindreader, you wouldn't know! :D |
| 22:31.51 | Elsia | gnar: np, and if the problem persists it's ace3config. Recount doesn't handle slash commands itself, it's all ace3 code |
| 22:31.53 | WatchoutX | Aii, problem is different usernames... |
| 22:32.04 | CIA-55 | 03ackis * r79893 10WelfareEpics/WelfareEpics.lua: (log message trimmed) |
| 22:32.04 | CIA-55 | WelfareEpics: |
| 22:32.04 | CIA-55 | - Background textures are correct when you switch |
| 22:32.04 | CIA-55 | - Updated warning to let people know that unusable items will be filtered |
| 22:32.04 | CIA-55 | - Bug with new tabs and tooltips not showing up |
| 22:32.05 | CIA-55 | - Current categories are: Cloth, Leather, Mail, Plate, Trinket, Other, Weapon |
| 22:32.07 | CIA-55 | - You can't actually see tooltips or buy items from the new tabs |
| 22:32.09 | Daemona | just wanted to point out the obvious... |
| 22:32.19 | Ackis | long message is lonnnnnggggg |
| 22:32.26 | Daemona | drycoded? |
| 22:32.32 | Ackis | nope :P |
| 22:32.42 | WatchoutX | haha IQ check on wowace/wiki account creation? :P |
| 22:32.47 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: heh, not everyone uses their live names. also, I forgot that the only interaction I could have with you would be ganking you even faster than that holy pally. "friends must be part of your alliance." :( |
| 22:32.52 | Aii | WatchoutX: use the same 2-3 usernames, too :P |
| 22:32.52 | Daemona | whatever it does, i assume it tells you on how to get vertain wellfare epics? |
| 22:32.56 | WatchoutX | "74 + 8 = " |
| 22:33.03 | WatchoutX | heeelp! |
| 22:33.09 | Elsia | the answer is 42 |
| 22:33.16 | Daemona | well if you see a female troll rogue with dual glaives, you found me ;) |
| 22:33.23 | Pneumatus | is there any way to tell how/why FuBar_HonorFuPlus is messing with my tooltips? |
| 22:33.34 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: nah, I've seen plenty of those already, none being you, though ;p |
| 22:33.37 | Ackis | Daemoen: nope, it just allows you to filter out heroic badge vendors and sorts things into different tabs |
| 22:33.39 | Pneumatus | as the code only seems to touch GameTooltip for enemy players |
| 22:33.45 | Aii | Elsia: it'd be funny if the wiki module were coded to always accept 42 as an answer |
| 22:34.02 | Pneumatus | so it must be a lib of honorfu's thats cocking with them |
| 22:34.11 | Daemona | Ackis so if i had that addon (hypothetically) it would only show the rogue items to my rogue? |
| 22:34.12 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: the only thing worse than that, though, was seeing a warrior dual wield Apolyon's, though O_o |
| 22:34.18 | Daemona | that is brilliant... |
| 22:34.32 | Daemona | Gnarfoz i know at least 2 warriors from the same alliance guild on the ptr that got those |
| 22:34.40 | Gnarfoz | Inner Sanctum, that one |
| 22:34.45 | Ackis | Daemoen: eventually, right now it would just filter items you can't use (mail, plate, wands, etc) and also add tabs in which it would sort items into |
| 22:34.45 | Daemona | yup |
| 22:34.49 | WatchoutX | Aii, spam would like that I guess :D |
| 22:34.50 | Daemona | they got two of that kind |
| 22:34.57 | WatchoutX | *spammers |
| 22:35.08 | Gnarfoz | srsly, I'm relieved they're alliance ;D |
| 22:35.12 | Aii | doesnt really matter to spammers |
| 22:35.22 | Gnarfoz | I don't want to be on the receiving end of dual apolyon's xD |
| 22:36.08 | Gnarfoz | I should do some more leveling, though. ganking 76's as 73 gets boring =[ ret pallies ftw ^^ |
| 22:36.14 | ashb | eleks still feel slow |
| 22:37.00 | Daemona | Gnarfoz i am currently considering canceling the quests from venture bay that flag me for pvp ... |
| 22:37.09 | Daemona | i pre-finished 20 quests for level cap raise -.- |
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| 22:37.16 | Gnarfoz | Daemoen: =X |
| 22:37.23 | Gnarfoz | finish another 5 then! :D |
| 22:37.23 | Aii | btw... wtb this for priests in WoW :P http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Healing_Seed |
| 22:37.25 | Daemona | but being ganked while updating addons.... suxx |
| 22:37.42 | Daemona | Gnarfoz that would prevent me from doing the odd instance quest that might arise |
| 22:37.49 | Gnarfoz | hm, right |
| 22:38.01 | Xuerian | Aii: I loved that damn skill |
| 22:38.17 | Aii | ah, you played GW Xuerian ? :) |
| 22:38.25 | Gnarfoz | still, I'm curious as to how far into the ground they'll nerf ret pallies when they get around to it |
| 22:38.30 | Xuerian | only the original, but yeah. Necro/monk and Monk/warrior |
| 22:38.48 | Xuerian | (pve and pvp, respectively) |
| 22:38.59 | Pneumatus | is there an easy way to change hex colors into decimal? |
| 22:39.08 | Daemona | google? |
| 22:39.08 | Daemona | ;= |
| 22:39.21 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: how can I change, test, and commit a fix |
| 22:39.22 | Dashkal | lua> print(0x2F) |
| 22:39.23 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 47 |
| 22:39.24 | Pneumatus | fractions, even |
| 22:39.33 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: and NOT update my own copy in my wotlk dir to actually use it? |
| 22:39.40 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
| 22:39.55 | Pneumatus | GameTooltip:AddLine() needs colors between 0 and 1, and my brain has melted |
| 22:40.31 | Aii | lua_tointeger("0x"..hexvalue)? |
| 22:40.38 | Elsia | gnar: not sure I understand what you are trying to do |
| 22:40.51 | Elsia | you want to commit a fix that you don't want to use? |
| 22:41.06 | Aii | lua> lua_tointeger("0xFF") |
| 22:41.06 | lua_bot | Aii: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'lua_tointeger' (a nil value) |
| 22:41.09 | Aii | bah |
| 22:41.18 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: no, because that would be stupid. but that's what I already *did* :P |
| 22:41.34 | jygga | how do i accept a quest by macro? |
| 22:41.34 | Aii | oh, that's the C api >< |
| 22:41.35 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: http://fish.wowace.com/changelog/WowAce/branches/Ace3?cs=79706 <- I did that, but I didn't actually download it myself. |
| 22:41.47 | Gnarfoz | so... I fixed it, but I was stuck on the non-fixed version |
| 22:41.49 | Gnarfoz | lol :) |
| 22:41.52 | jygga | /script accept() is to complete the quest right? |
| 22:42.39 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: what doesn't work though, and probably doesn't have to do with Ace3: fight selection |
| 22:42.59 | Aii | lua> tonumber("FF", 16) |
| 22:43.00 | lua_bot | Aii: 255 |
| 22:43.02 | Elsia | gnar: in what sense? no pulldown menu? |
| 22:43.04 | Aii | there you go |
| 22:43.10 | Pneumatus | argh, this is doing my head in and i cant work out why FuBar_HonorFuPlus is messing with my tooltip wrapping |
| 22:43.11 | Aii | ( Pneumatus ) |
| 22:43.51 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: yeah |
| 22:44.18 | Elsia | does any pulldown menu work? like mode selection or the color one for the realtime window? |
| 22:45.29 | Gnarfoz | right clicking the title: no. |
| 22:45.35 | Gnarfoz | what color one for realtime windows? |
| 22:45.41 | Gnarfoz | there he goes :( |
| 22:45.45 | Industrial | does LibHealComm show dots? |
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| 22:46.01 | Industrial | hots* |
| 22:46.32 | Gnarfoz | elaa: right clicking the title: doesn't work. what realtime window color dropdown do you refer to? (probably haven't used that on live) |
| 22:47.03 | Gnarfoz | erm |
| 22:47.05 | Gnarfoz | wait a minute. |
| 22:47.23 | Gnarfoz | I think I see a pattern in this. |
| 22:47.37 | Primer | Ok, I'm having a bit of trouble with some math here. Could some kind soul help me with some basic trig? Given: 2 objects, the relative angle between then, and the direction 1 object is facing, derive the angle of object 1 to object 2. All angles are in degrees, in a circle where north is 0 degrees |
| 22:48.23 | Primer | s/then/them/ |
| 22:49.21 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: ok, phew, I made the same mistake twice in 5 minutes, but at least this was not related. ;) |
| 22:49.25 | Industrial | ~seen xbeeps |
| 22:49.31 | purl | xbeeps <n=xbeeps@2603ds1-giu.0.fullrate.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 176d 4h 6m 14s ago, saying: 'quick question: is LibDogTag-2.0 a drop-in replacement for DogTag-1.0 ?'. |
| 22:49.45 | Industrial | ~seen krage |
| 22:49.46 | purl | i haven't seen 'krage', Industrial |
| 22:49.50 | Industrial | :| |
| 22:49.53 | Elsia | gnar: so the dropdowns work? |
| 22:50.06 | Aii | Primer: "relative angle between them" <-- explain? |
| 22:50.27 | Primer | Aii: object 1 is directly west of object 2 == 270 |
| 22:50.40 | Primer | obj 1 is directly below obj 2 == 180 |
| 22:50.46 | Primer | below/south |
| 22:50.56 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: no, they don't, my last message was supposed to clarify that my mistake was not related, this time :) |
| 22:51.09 | Aii | okay, and what are you trying to compute exactly, Primer ? |
| 22:51.23 | Elsia | gnar: don't think I can fix that unless someone documents how dropdown templates changed or I get a beta key |
| 22:51.31 | Primer | the bearing to obj2 from obj1 |
| 22:51.46 | Primer | where obj1 is static, and obj2 is moving, and pivots |
| 22:51.53 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: [2008/08/07 00:48:56-180-x3]: Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:841: attempt to index local 'dropdown' (a number value): -> Recount-79128\GUI_Main.lua:972: in function `FightDropDownOpen' -> Recount-79128\GUI_Main.lua:518: in function <Interface\AddOns\Recount\GUI_Main.lua:517> --- |
| 22:51.56 | Primer | i.e. my toon on its flying mount, and a waypoint :) |
| 22:52.05 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: yeah, I have one, but I can't really figure this one out :) |
| 22:52.18 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: wowcompares.com has diffs, though |
| 22:52.52 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: you. |
| 22:52.56 | Pneumatus | anyone care to hazard a guess at what's causing this interesting phenominon: http://img80.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fubaredyd8.jpg |
| 22:53.07 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: whut? |
| 22:54.00 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: after re-evaluating my prior statement about my IQ, I can now say with certainty, that neither you or ag` were involved in the "XLoot1.0 config doesn't work on beta" conspiracy |
| 22:54.33 | Xuerian | So what was it? <_< |
| 22:55.25 | Aii | Primer: 180-relativeAngle+facing |
| 22:55.29 | Aii | = bearing |
| 22:55.33 | Aii | I believe that's correct |
| 22:55.43 | Industrial | Anyone know anything about LibHealComm-3.0? I'd like to know if it tracks HoT's. ckknight maybe? |
| 22:55.46 | Primer | Aii: trying... |
| 22:55.50 | Aii | if both angles are given in deg. clockwise from north |
| 22:55.58 | Primer | that they are |
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| 22:56.20 | Aii | well, mod 360 that is |
| 22:56.30 | Aii | since the number might add to something above 360, but that just wraps around |
| 22:56.33 | Gnarfoz | I had updated ace3 on the svn for the slashcmd change, and it seems I forgot to export my working copy to my wotlk addons dir at that point. that lead to my statement "/recount show" doesn't work. after doing the exporting, recount worked. I still had fisheye open and saw that nev commited another fix regarding tab groups after me... which was the point at which I realized I hadn't updated my working copy from SVN after my latest change... BLEH |
| 22:56.51 | Xuerian | ... okay 0.o |
| 22:56.55 | Gnarfoz | tl;dr |
| 22:56.58 | Primer | And of course, I can't test, as my kid just booted me again...sigh |
| 22:57.06 | Gnarfoz | wall of text crits Xuerian for NaN |
| 22:57.19 | Xuerian | Exactly XD |
| 22:57.24 | Xuerian | But ah, that's good news |
| 22:57.33 | Elsia | gnar: why exactly can't you just do svn update? |
| 22:57.57 | Xuerian | I started gutting ace3 code from 1.0 there for a minute, then realized I couldn't be arsed to handle the options storage or gui myself. |
| 22:58.14 | Aii | actually, Primer |
| 22:58.30 | Aii | math slightly off, sign change: probably should be relativeAngle-180+facing |
| 22:58.37 | Primer | I just figured I'd need some trig here since I'm dealing with angles |
| 22:58.56 | Aii | not if you want an angle output too |
| 22:59.03 | Aii | that's just plain math :) |
| 22:59.12 | Daemona | uhm, anyone know whats causing the GetMerchantItemID error in the Blizzard_FeedbackUI ? |
| 22:59.16 | Daemona | its kinda annoying ;) |
| 22:59.16 | Aii | trig is converting from angles to distances and vice versa, generally |
| 22:59.52 | Aii | but yeah... relativeAngle+facingAngle-180 should give the proper bearing to the distant object |
| 23:00.30 | Aii | at least as far as my scribbled notes on a pad of paper work out to :) |
| 23:00.34 | Primer | cool |
| 23:00.35 | Primer | thanks |
| 23:00.52 | Xuerian | On a side note |
| 23:01.01 | Xuerian | Did someone decide to enable compression on the WAU index file? |
| 23:01.39 | ashb | dear horde on Anachronos: stop being so lame and killing ncps in 20-30 zones |
| 23:01.48 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: I think so, WAU recently took way less time to update the "addon index" |
| 23:01.49 | Primer | Aii: except in some cases I end up with negative numbers |
| 23:01.53 | Gnarfoz | so I guess that's related |
| 23:01.56 | Primer | so I need to mod 360 it somehow |
| 23:01.58 | Aii | Primer: it's all mod 360 |
| 23:02.12 | Primer | need...more...coffee... |
| 23:02.17 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Yeah, index was 300kb vs 2mb... why didn't that happen earlier |
| 23:02.32 | Xuerian | Rhetorical question, of course |
| 23:02.36 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: because I don't keep my svn working copies in the right place for wow to pick them up directly (i.e. not in \Interface\Addons (not even on the same partition of my hdd, actually)) |
| 23:02.41 | Aii | lua> math.fmod(-12, 360) |
| 23:02.41 | lua_bot | Aii: -12 |
| 23:02.47 | Aii | lua> math.fmod(-12+360, 360) |
| 23:02.48 | lua_bot | Aii: 348 |
| 23:02.56 | Aii | lua> math.fmod(724+360, 360) |
| 23:02.57 | lua_bot | Aii: 4 |
| 23:03.08 | Gnarfoz | Xuerian: because he didn't notice and the reverse proxy webserver thingy (I should probably look up what nginx actually DOES) just silently fell back to default |
| 23:03.14 | Elsia | gnar: just copy the file over manually? I don't understand what the problem is |
| 23:03.15 | Gnarfoz | or... something. |
| 23:03.39 | CIA-55 | 03gchudov * r79894 10Prat/Prat_Modules/modules/ChannelColorMemory.lua: Prat: ruRU localization |
| 23:03.46 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: I did? ;) but I did just now, because this separation requires me to actually remember to do that ;p |
| 23:04.18 | Elsia | gnar: you can check out to 2 locations as well if you want to update to the interface folder :P |
| 23:04.24 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: anyway, it's up to date now and still no dropdowns. since the error points at FrameXML, I guess it's a change in blizz's UI code that changed |
| 23:04.28 | Aii | Primer: since +180 and -180 are equal mod 360, you can just add instead of subtracting |
| 23:04.32 | Gnarfoz | I don't want to, that's the point :) |
| 23:04.37 | Xuerian | Gnarfoz: Odd... Seems like a important thing to check for- I'd imagine that counted for over 50% of the updater's used bandwidth.. and seeing as how big of a issue bandwidth has become... |
| 23:04.43 | Aii | math.fmod(relativeAngle+facingAngle+180) |
| 23:04.46 | Elsia | gnar: the dropdown bug isn't magically disappearing ;) |
| 23:04.49 | Aii | will work just as well as -180 |
| 23:05.06 | Aii | er |
| 23:05.09 | Aii | math.fmod(relativeAngle+facingAngle+180, 360) |
| 23:05.10 | Elsia | I'll need beta access or detailed info on the dropdown code, the diff shows no change |
| 23:05.12 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: yeah, it won't, but how's that related to anything? :) |
| 23:05.15 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 23:05.20 | Gnarfoz | they don't? that's weird |
| 23:05.46 | Primer | Aii: yup...perfect! |
| 23:06.32 | Elsia | gnar: http://wowcompares.com/3018714?diff=2438606 no diff on UIDropDownMenu.* |
| 23:07.04 | Xuerian | Hmm. How do I pull up the options frame generated by Ace3 outside of the interface optiosn |
| 23:07.07 | Xuerian | options panel |
| 23:07.20 | Aii | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.21 | Aii | ? |
| 23:07.22 | Elsia | er actually there is. weird |
| 23:07.39 | Xuerian | Aii: Snarf |
| 23:07.44 | Xuerian | For a individual addon |
| 23:07.46 | CIA-55 | 03funkydude * r79895 10StatBlockCore/ (StatBlockCore.lua StatBlockCore.toc): StatBlockCore: Bugfix rightclick |
| 23:08.10 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
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| 23:08.14 | Aii | well, that should bring up a window with a dropdown list of the ace3 addons |
| 23:08.23 | Aii | that you can select the one you want and see its config |
| 23:08.25 | Aii | afaik |
| 23:08.26 | Josh_Borke | Xuerian: you can't always |
| 23:08.26 | Xuerian | Let me rephrase that, trying to add a method of pulling up the non-modal resizable window for users |
| 23:08.42 | Elsia | i see, arguments have been shuffled around, wouldn't wanna change this on the live commit and dry. |
| 23:08.45 | Josh_Borke | Xuerian: non-modal? wtf does that mean? |
| 23:09.20 | ashb | modal means has to be closed before any other window can accept input usually |
| 23:09.25 | Xuerian | ... yeah that. |
| 23:09.40 | ashb | think aobut an okay/cancel dialog in windows |
| 23:09.42 | ashb | thats modal |
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| 23:10.55 | Josh_Borke | LibStub("AceConfig-3.0"):RegisterOptionsTable("RaidCast", options, "rc") |
| 23:11.12 | Josh_Borke | try that Xuerian |
| 23:11.16 | Trell_ | I guess Earthliving Weapon isn't modified at all by spellpower? |
| 23:11.29 | Josh_Borke | erm |
| 23:11.54 | Josh_Borke | Xuerian: LibStub("AceConfigDialog-3.0"):Open("<addon>") |
| 23:12.07 | Xuerian | Josh_Borke: That'd be it, Awesomecakes. |
| 23:13.44 | Daemona | nevcairiel probably a stupid question, but how do i do keybinds on the wotlk branch of bt4 ? ;) |
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| 23:14.35 | Josh_Borke | Daemona: did you try /kb? |
| 23:14.45 | Paene | anyone ever run into a problem with AJAX not calling the callback function? |
| 23:15.01 | Daemona | woah nice one Josh_Borke |
| 23:15.08 | Daemona | libkeybind stuff? |
| 23:15.16 | Josh_Borke | fuck if i know :-D |
| 23:15.19 | Josh_Borke | pardon my language |
| 23:15.33 | CIA-55 | 03funkydude * r79896 10StatBlockCore/StatBlockCore.lua: StatBlockCore: better method |
| 23:15.56 | Daemona | i dont care how it worked, but it works ;) |
| 23:16.24 | Pneumatus | i've found my weird HonorFuPlus bug, but have no idea why it's happening |
| 23:16.48 | Pneumatus | when HonorFuPlus outputs a | character in its text, it messes up the GameTooltip |
| 23:18.36 | Pneumatus | i'm guessing it would cock up similarly on any fubar mod that outputs a pipe char in its text, but :< |
| 23:19.21 | Elsia | Is there any way to get current TOC level of the client or is GetAccountExpansionLevel() the only thing an addon get lean on? |
| 23:20.25 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: GetBuildInfo() |
| 23:20.45 | Elsia | nx |
| 23:20.47 | Elsia | tnx |
| 23:20.49 | Gnarfoz | or something, wotlk branch of ace2 uses it for detection, if I'm not mistaken |
| 23:21.06 | Diao | LOL |
| 23:21.13 | Diao | there's a guy in my battleground right now multiboxing |
| 23:21.37 | Diao | 4 elemental shaman named earth, fire, wind, and water |
| 23:21.40 | Diao | and then a holy paladin named heart |
| 23:21.44 | Aii | ... |
| 23:21.45 | Xuerian | hahaha |
| 23:21.49 | Pneumatus | haha |
| 23:21.57 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: hm, it's not GBI(). what was it called, damn my mind is like a sieve today |
| 23:22.01 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de sieve |
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| 23:23.02 | Aii | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetBuildInfo |
| 23:23.06 | Aii | it should be, Gnarfoz |
| 23:23.07 | Elsia | tnx |
| 23:23.14 | Aii | just the 4th argument for tocversion |
| 23:23.19 | Aii | er, 4th return value |
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| 23:23.39 | Aii | local version, build, date, tocversion = GetBuildInfo() |
| 23:23.44 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: indeed, changing GUI_Main.lua:972 to read UIDropDownMenu_SetAnchor(Recount_FightDropDownMenu, 0, 0, oside, myframe, side) works ;) |
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| 23:23.58 | Gnarfoz | (ie. move arg4 to arg1, leave the rest where it is) |
| 23:24.17 | Gnarfoz | Aii: hm, then my LibRockConsole-1.0 is broken |
| 23:24.20 | Elsia | gnar: yep was just making that change and add a WotLK detection. |
| 23:25.02 | Gnarfoz | just confirming what shouldn't need confirmation ;) |
| 23:25.35 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: ah, the same for the view selection dropdown, obviously |
| 23:25.56 | Elsia | gnar: there are a bunch of places for this. I'll try to commit a dry fix soonish |
| 23:26.23 | Gnarfoz | don't rush it ;) |
| 23:30.47 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder if its a bug with FuBarPlugin-2.0 then |
| 23:32.30 | CIA-55 | 03durcyn * r79897 10Waitlist/ (Waitlist.lua Waitlist.toc): Waitlist: stuff the active waitlist into savedvars to preserve through reloads/relogs |
| 23:35.02 | Elsia | tocversion is "30000"? |
| 23:35.31 | Daemona | grmpf another stupid bt4 question ... how do i make stealth bar switching work? :( |
| 23:35.33 | Arrowmaster | its a number |
| 23:35.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, although that doesn't really help while stuff is still changing |
| 23:35.45 | Daemona | i told bar 1 to switch to bar7 on stealthing but nothing happens :( |
| 23:36.13 | Diao | on beta or live? |
| 23:36.18 | Daemona | beta |
| 23:36.23 | Diao | oh, can't help you there |
| 23:36.26 | KriLL3 | working as intended |
| 23:36.28 | Diao | i think it's broken for beta from what i heard from others |
| 23:36.34 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 23:36.36 | Elsia | GetBuildInfo() returns a string |
| 23:36.37 | Daemona | oh man ... |
| 23:36.45 | KriLL3 | blizz pullled the rug out of under it |
| 23:37.06 | KriLL3 | gonna be fixed in some future patch, until then don't use bar addons if you want paging |
| 23:37.16 | Aiiane | Elsia |
| 23:37.22 | Aiiane | GetBuildInfo returns 4 arguments |
| 23:37.27 | Aiiane | the first might be a string, yes :P |
| 23:37.39 | Pneumatus | you'll be wanting the 4th arg |
| 23:37.50 | Arrowmaster | were are you getting the info from? ingame or a site? |
| 23:37.52 | Pneumatus | >=30000 for wotlk |
| 23:37.54 | Daemona | Elsia "3.0.1","8714","Jul 30 2008",30000 |
| 23:38.08 | Daemona | if i do "/echo GetBuildInfo()" |
| 23:38.13 | Elsia | daemona: thanks, then the wiki is wrong |
| 23:38.18 | Aiiane | um |
| 23:38.20 | Elsia | wiki claims arg4 is string |
| 23:38.21 | Arrowmaster | wiki is OFTEN wrong |
| 23:38.28 | Aiiane | meh |
| 23:38.44 | Pneumatus | my head is going to assplode if i don't work this out :< |
| 23:38.52 | Daemona | and if it matters, chatter colors the first 3 green and the last some violet color ;) |
| 23:39.26 | Pneumatus | why on earth would "|" in the fubar textFrame text cause GameTooltip to wrap funny :< |
| 23:39.50 | Gnarfoz | because... | is an escape char in strings? |
| 23:39.54 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:39.58 | Pneumatus | yeh, its escaped though |
| 23:40.05 | Arrowmaster | are you sure? |
| 23:40.08 | Pneumatus | "||" is actually in the output string |
| 23:40.09 | Arrowmaster | how is it escaped |
| 23:40.09 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 23:41.08 | Pneumatus | text = text:gsub("||", "") removes the pipe from the output, and causes the tooltip to not be wrapped weird |
| 23:41.23 | Daemona | so there is still no full functional bar addon for the beta? |
| 23:41.24 | Pneumatus | but i may have to resign myself to the fact that it's my code, not fubars |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-55 | 03elsia * r79898 10Recount/ (GUI_Main.lua GUI_Realtime.lua Tracker.lua): |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-55 | Recount: |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-55 | - Preparing for WotLK power gains |
| 23:43.57 | CIA-55 | - Added WotLK beta UIDropDown changes (thanks to Gnarfoz & folks at #wowace, this is dry-coded, please test on beta and report). |
| 23:44.14 | Gnarfoz | oh noes, now the beta bug report mafia will hunt me down |
| 23:44.28 | Industrial | grabs a pitchfork |
| 23:44.46 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: don't think so, SecureActionButton code is in a mid-rewrite state, last I heard |
| 23:44.58 | Daemona | grmpf |
| 23:45.03 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: when it's finished, we'll be able to move secure buttons in combat, yay oO |
| 23:45.18 | Daemona | and automacro works again? *sarcasm* |
| 23:45.22 | Gnarfoz | at least that's one of the things I thought I understood from the horse's mouth ;) |
| 23:45.48 | Gnarfoz | not saying that Iriel is equine. ;) |
| 23:46.31 | Arrowmaster | the 'moving secure buttons' was probably talking about being able to drag actions between buttons |
| 23:47.04 | Arrowmaster | which you can currently do if you use a certain template, but using that template will introduce other bugs |
| 23:47.07 | Gnarfoz | hum, |
| 23:47.14 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was going to say "you can already do that on live" |
| 23:47.51 | Gnarfoz | and no, I actually think he meant moving secure buttons around, with this whole sandbox stuff instead of the weird state machine |
| 23:48.06 | Gnarfoz | but me calling it weird is testament to my level of understanding of it, too ;p |
| 23:48.18 | Arrowmaster | well yeah they are creating something entirely new thats suppost to be a lot more powerful |
| 23:48.40 | Arrowmaster | but its not finished |
| 23:48.59 | Arrowmaster | otherwise i might take a look at it but i dont even know the current secure stuff that well |
| 23:49.18 | ckknight | Industrial: I didn't write LibHealComm-3.0 |
| 23:50.00 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: but you wrote RockConsole, am I out of date if I get errors from it's PrintLiteral implementation? |
| 23:50.03 | Gnarfoz | (on beta, that is) |
| 23:50.13 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: blah! |
| 23:50.18 | ckknight | are you trying to print a frame? |
| 23:50.23 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.27 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:50.35 | ckknight | oh, I think I need to commit my fix |
| 23:50.36 | Industrial | ckknight: but you might know |
| 23:50.44 | ckknight | sadly, no, Industrial |
| 23:50.54 | Industrial | k |
| 23:50.55 | Gnarfoz | complains that it can't "trim()", I narrowed it down to... well, 'cmd' is a table (so I guess it's some frame) |
| 23:51.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah he didnt fix it |
| 23:51.13 | Arrowmaster | yet |
| 23:51.45 | Gnarfoz | hm, k. I wonder why it takes precedence over ace2's implementation anyway :O |
| 23:52.04 | Gnarfoz | hm, duh. it overwrites the slash handler, I guess? ^^ |
| 23:52.26 | Arrowmaster | loads later |
| 23:53.11 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: the arguments need to be switched |
| 23:53.18 | ckknight | the recent patch fixed what they did |
| 23:54.29 | Primer | Aii: yeah, that formula doesn't always work |
| 23:54.58 | Gnarfoz | switching them gives me: [01:53:57]Error: [string "Rock("LibRockConsole-1.0"):PrintLiteral(/print)"]:1: unexpected symbol near '/' |
| 23:55.10 | Gnarfoz | (in the chat frame, nonetheless, it's not using error()) |
| 23:55.20 | Aiiane | Primer: any pattern to when it doesnt work |
| 23:56.22 | Primer | when the result is > 360 |
| 23:56.33 | Pneumatus | my head: assploding |
| 23:56.36 | CIA-55 | 03ominous * r79899 10ClassTimer/ (6 files in 2 dirs): ClassTimer; Added AshB's patch to reverse the sorting |
| 23:56.40 | Aiiane | Primer: mod 360? |
| 23:57.04 | Primer | relativeAngle = 90, facing = 270 |
| 23:57.13 | Primer | err |
| 23:57.15 | Primer | yeah |
| 23:57.21 | Primer | so, 450 % 360 |
| 23:57.51 | Primer | meaning, I'm EAST of the point (90), and I'm facing WEST (270) |
| 23:57.57 | Primer | the result should be 0 |
| 23:58.08 | Primer | since I'm directly facing the point |
| 23:58.12 | Aiiane | hm |
| 23:58.16 | Primer | uhh |
| 23:58.18 | Primer | wait |
| 23:58.32 | CIA-55 | 03ckknight * r79900 10LibRockConsole-1.0/LibRockConsole-1.0.lua: |
| 23:58.32 | CIA-55 | LibRockConsole-1.0 - remove WotLK dealy that messes with the slash command, as they reverted it in the recent patch. |
| 23:58.32 | CIA-55 | - change some frame printing. Note: printing a frame will crash the game since /script Button:GetDisabledFontObject() breaks (at least for macs) |
| 23:58.42 | Primer | (90 + 270 + 180) % 360 |
| 23:58.59 | Primer | is 180 |
| 23:59.13 | Aiiane | hum |
| 23:59.25 | Primer | I was hoping to not have conditionals |
| 23:59.36 | Aiiane | no, shouldnt be conditional |
| 23:59.37 | Aiiane | once sec |
| 23:59.39 | Aiiane | *one |
| 23:59.41 | Primer | like, if > 360, then -360 |
| 23:59.44 | Diao | argh |
| 23:59.47 | Aiiane | might need to flip a sign |
| 23:59.57 | Diao | i hate when bad players get carried by their teammates and get stuff like s4 weapons |
