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| 00:01.27 | dieck | hi! what is a good hit rating for a rogue to start T6 content with, when coming from Kara/Badges? is hit cap absolutely neccessary, even when sacrificing other attributes? |
| 00:01.54 | Gnarfoz | *points to EJ* |
| 00:02.00 | Gnarfoz | "there are no magic numbers" |
| 00:02.23 | Gnarfoz | +hit is useful until you hit the cap, that's all I can offer you without going too deep. ;) |
| 00:03.29 | dieck | Gnarfoz: yeah, that's right :) ok, more precise: is ~180 to low to start with? should agility or crit be mutilated for +hit? |
| 00:03.51 | Gnarfoz | uhm for pve you don't care about crit as a rogue ;) |
| 00:03.55 | Gnarfoz | or "shouldn't" |
| 00:04.02 | Chompers | i knew a rogue who went for hit only, he was pretty shit |
| 00:04.15 | Gnarfoz | Chompers: he probably was shit without gear, too. |
| 00:04.22 | Chompers | yeah |
| 00:04.23 | Gnarfoz | and yes, 180 sounds low. |
| 00:05.03 | ashb | 9% to hit is the oft quoted fiqure so your yellow attacks dont miss |
| 00:05.14 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 00:05.20 | Gnarfoz | not for rogues, that is |
| 00:05.33 | ashb | no? |
| 00:05.34 | Gnarfoz | that's obviously one of the soft caps, yes |
| 00:05.37 | dieck | hm, yellow attacks with Precision is 64 hit rating. |
| 00:05.42 | steev | combat you "need" ~353 |
| 00:05.49 | Gnarfoz | 363, actually |
| 00:05.53 | Chompers | gem for hit if the bonus is offensive |
| 00:05.53 | dieck | steev: 363 is hit cap for dual wield :) |
| 00:05.54 | Gnarfoz | but that's just the hard cap |
| 00:05.55 | steev | sorry, 363 yeah |
| 00:06.06 | Gnarfoz | you don't need to sacrifice stats to reach it |
| 00:06.09 | steev | hitting 363 is pretty damn near impossible |
| 00:06.10 | Gnarfoz | just don't overshoot it by accident |
| 00:06.20 | Chompers | uh, i mean gem for the bonus if it gives you an offensive bonus i mean |
| 00:06.29 | Gnarfoz | on your own? yes. get a draenei and/or a moonkin and you're overshooting it easily |
| 00:06.44 | steev | yeah |
| 00:06.47 | Parnic | does anyone know how to get blizzard's addon source manually until wowcompares.com is updated? |
| 00:06.52 | Gnarfoz | dieck: http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t16940-roguecraft_101_a/ is a good read. as is the Theorycraft Think Tank version |
| 00:06.55 | steev | Parnic: their website |
| 00:06.59 | Polarina | sedai|: Did that command help? :) |
| 00:07.03 | Parnic | they post it for each new beta build? |
| 00:07.05 | Gnarfoz | Parnic: use the addon kit, or extract it with an MPQ extractor |
| 00:07.05 | ashb | there's an addon kit you can download |
| 00:07.24 | Gnarfoz | the addon kit stays the same, and yes, it can extract the WotLK UI |
| 00:07.32 | Parnic | i didn't realize that |
| 00:07.33 | Parnic | cool |
| 00:09.13 | Gnarfoz | GAH |
| 00:09.16 | Gnarfoz | http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MzQ0OTMsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE= |
| 00:09.23 | Gnarfoz | omg >_> HOW ANNOYING IS THAT |
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| 00:16.04 | steev | hrm |
| 00:16.23 | steev | [2008/08/23 19:15:33-1012-x1]: FuBar_FuXPFu-3\FuBar_FuXPFu.lua:675: attempt to call method 'GetAttachPoint' (a nil value) |
| 00:16.26 | steev | FuBarPlugin-2.0-78659 (Demon):393: in function `runChildren' |
| 00:16.28 | steev | oh, demon |
| 00:16.30 | steev | Tablet-2.0-64130 (TabletLib):2356: in function `children' |
| 00:16.32 | steev | Tablet-2.0-64130 (TabletLib):2400: in function `Open' |
| 00:16.34 | Polarina | Steganography! |
| 00:16.35 | steev | Tablet-2.0-64130 (TabletLib):2534: in function <Interface\AddOns\TabletLib\Tablet-2.0\Tablet-2.0.lua:2528 |
| 00:18.14 | Parnic | man, PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED is now UNIT_AURA ? |
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| 00:19.31 | steev | meh, i give up |
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| 00:20.03 | ag` | Gnarfoz, I don't know how to get the focus thing working :( |
| 00:20.36 | Gnarfoz | steev: uhm FuXPFu works fine for me? |
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| 00:25.54 | Gnarfoz | ag`: I dunno, aren't there other context menu stuffs that are protected in that way and they work? |
| 00:26.53 | ag` | I don't know, looking at other addons I don't see anything else than I do |
| 00:26.58 | ag` | maybe they don't work either |
| 00:27.01 | ag` | haven't tested |
| 00:27.27 | ag` | maybe blizzard just sucks |
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| 00:34.48 | Parnic | any idea what the Unitbuff returns were changed to? |
| 00:34.59 | Parnic | param 6 is no longer time remaining :( |
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| 00:39.47 | CIA-47 | 03pprovost * r80870 10Broker_Bags/Broker_Bags.lua: Broker_Bags: Added OnClick handler to toggle backpack and removed some duplicated code. |
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| 00:42.41 | Parnic | nvm, it's UnitAura i'm looking for, i think |
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| 00:44.32 | steev | Gnarfoz: it works fine for me too - but if i click on its minimap button without having a chatbox open it throws that error i pasted above |
| 00:45.25 | CIA-47 | 03Copystring * r80871 10YurrCombatLog/ (Config.lua Core.lua Locale-enUS.lua): |
| 00:45.25 | CIA-47 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 00:45.26 | CIA-47 | - fix Fortress click handler |
| 00:45.26 | CIA-47 | - change GetItemInfo() to "Fang of the Leviathan" to prevent it from throwing errors |
| 00:45.26 | CIA-47 | - tweak config menu a bit |
| 00:45.54 | Gnarfoz | steev: minimap button? ;> |
| 00:46.04 | Gnarfoz | what use is FuXPFu if you don't have a fubar? |
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| 00:47.26 | steev | Gnarfoz: i do - for some reason, i can't get it to NOT be on the minimap |
| 00:47.38 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 00:47.50 | steev | if i go into rock |
| 00:48.15 | steev | and uncheck show button on minimap (or whatever its called - i ended up just disabling it) - it would simply recheck itself |
| 00:48.26 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: your future GF -> http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4557935.ece |
| 00:48.51 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: are you like, reading the news archive of [H] because I linked it earlier? |
| 00:49.03 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: and if so, why do you assume I don't already know that link? :p |
| 00:49.11 | Ackis | of [H]? |
| 00:49.22 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> http://www.hardocp.com/news.html?news=MzQ0OTMsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE= |
| 00:50.15 | Ackis | wtf dude |
| 00:50.23 | Ackis | SHE WON'T SHUT UP |
| 00:50.46 | Ackis | (my link was better) |
| 00:52.58 | fewyn | any map note mods working yet? *goes to look while he sees if anyone will answer* |
| 00:54.21 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: mine had the context of "GAH" prefixed and "omg >_> HOW ANNOYING IS THAT" suffixed ;P |
| 00:54.43 | Ellipsis | steev: go into the fubar options and add it to the panel that way |
| 00:55.33 | Ellipsis | also I'm pretty sure fuxpfu isn't even maintained anymore since xparky replaced it |
| 00:55.52 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: mine had the suffix about you getting a GF... even if it's an e-gf!!! :P |
| 00:55.55 | Ackis | ~lart Ellipsis |
| 00:55.55 | purl | dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on Ellipsis |
| 00:56.02 | Ellipsis | whimpers |
| 00:56.06 | Ackis | ~botsnack |
| 00:56.06 | purl | Ackis: aw, gee |
| 00:56.08 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: what'd I need a GF for |
| 00:56.19 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: cook, clean, scratch back |
| 00:56.31 | Gnarfoz | can do all 3 myself oO |
| 00:56.45 | Gnarfoz | yet, being rid of having to would be nice |
| 00:56.47 | Ackis | it's better when a girl does it for you |
| 00:57.04 | Ackis | 13 days til my gf moves in wheeeeeee |
| 00:57.48 | Gnarfoz | also, just will the one I'm courting into falling in love with me and I'm set. :P |
| 00:57.51 | Gnarfoz | do eeeet. |
| 00:58.30 | Ackis | uses jedi mind tricks |
| 00:59.03 | Ackis | falls in love with Gnarfoz |
| 00:59.08 | Ackis | damn that backfired |
| 00:59.17 | Gnarfoz | baka. |
| 01:05.22 | CIA-47 | 03Octane666 * r80872 10/branches/SpamMeNot/: |
| 01:05.22 | CIA-47 | SpamMeNot: |
| 01:05.22 | CIA-47 | - Making a branch |
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| 01:06.10 | CIA-47 | 03Octane666 07WotLK * r80873 10SpamMeNot/: |
| 01:06.10 | CIA-47 | SpamMeNot: |
| 01:06.10 | CIA-47 | - Initial WotLK branch |
| 01:08.42 | fewyn | hmmm |
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| 01:15.10 | Gnarfoz | ag`: btw, the actual error is http://ace.pastey.net/94542 (I just had BugSack's "suppress addon mistakes" enabled) |
| 01:15.35 | ag` | thanks |
| 01:23.17 | CIA-47 | 03Octane666 07WotLK * r80874 10SpamMeNot/ (26 files): |
| 01:23.17 | CIA-47 | SpamMeNot: |
| 01:23.17 | CIA-47 | - Initial re-write. |
| 01:29.35 | CIA-47 | 03Octane666 07WotLK * r80875 10SpamMeNot/locales/ (. deDE.lua enUS.lua frFR.lua zhTW.lua): |
| 01:29.35 | CIA-47 | SpamMeNot: |
| 01:29.35 | CIA-47 | - Forgot to commit the locale files :P |
| 01:38.57 | CIA-47 | 03sole * r80876 10kGo/ (core.lua grid_display.lua): kGo: Now uses plugins table in aceconfig table to handle module options. |
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| 01:39.44 | fewyn | wtb addon that auto ignores everyone in general who says the words sink and hole |
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| 01:48.55 | Gnarfoz | fewyn: hehehe |
| 01:49.16 | fewyn | i've had to turn general chat off |
| 01:49.23 | fewyn | i can't keep a sane conversation in guild chat with it on |
| 01:49.28 | Matrix110| | we dont have that yet |
| 01:50.05 | fewyn | yes the god damn sink hole quest is broken in Borean Tundra for the horde |
| 01:50.26 | Matrix110| | oh wotlk |
| 01:50.33 | Matrix110| | general chat is barrens chat³ |
| 01:50.47 | fewyn | worse |
| 01:51.18 | fewyn | because it's not the barrens and there is a lot of mankrik's wife jokes going around |
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| 02:00.40 | Parnic | aw crap. northrend server goes down right in the middle of my addon testing :P |
| 02:00.44 | Parnic | northrend realm* |
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| 02:03.19 | fewyn | yea |
| 02:03.20 | fewyn | it did |
| 02:03.23 | fewyn | but it's good |
| 02:03.29 | fewyn | because there's this quest that is bugged |
| 02:03.47 | fewyn | that ties up like 30 other quests |
| 02:06.23 | fewyn | dodododododo |
| 02:06.27 | fewyn | waits on loading bar |
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| 02:09.40 | fewyn | ding 74 |
| 02:10.44 | Gnarfoz | gz |
| 02:11.59 | blime | how much xp did it take to get from 73 to 74? |
| 02:12.11 | blime | i'm about half way to 71 myself |
| 02:14.26 | kenlyric | what's the draw to do this, only to do it again? |
| 02:14.52 | fewyn | no to make sure everything is working right the first time |
| 02:15.05 | fewyn | instead of everything being horribly broken when it releases |
| 02:15.06 | Parnic | help find bugs, be involved, get to see content early, play around with builds/classes, experience the new areas first, develop addons |
| 02:15.08 | Parnic | etc. etc. etc. |
| 02:15.15 | fewyn | ^ |
| 02:15.20 | fewyn | everything Parnic said |
| 02:15.21 | kenlyric | none of those are good reasons |
| 02:15.23 | kenlyric | please give more |
| 02:15.26 | Parnic | then don't play :) |
| 02:15.26 | fewyn | xD |
| 02:15.29 | Parnic | problem solved |
| 02:15.47 | fewyn | Anyone seen any more detailed maps yet of northrend? Specifically to help in discovering? |
| 02:16.09 | Parnic | ha, weren't they all fully uncovered until recently? :P |
| 02:16.24 | fewyn | cargExplorer tells me what's missing |
| 02:16.30 | fewyn | but i have no idea where those places are |
| 02:16.55 | Parnic | is loving being spec'd combat on his rogue again |
| 02:16.59 | Parnic | was subtlety for a long time |
| 02:17.08 | fewyn | i love feral =p |
| 02:17.48 | Parnic | premades aren't up yet, are they? |
| 02:17.56 | Parnic | i don't wanna x-fer my 30 warrior just to test my sunder module... |
| 02:17.56 | fewyn | nope |
| 02:17.59 | Parnic | crap. |
| 02:18.03 | fewyn | probably going to be a special realm just for it |
| 02:18.04 | Parnic | what level do you get sunder again? :P |
| 02:18.15 | fewyn | good question |
| 02:18.35 | fewyn | i asked in vent, no one knows but it seems to be "early" |
| 02:18.41 | Parnic | level 10. blah |
| 02:18.55 | Parnic | i don't wanna spend 2-3 hours in noob zones :P |
| 02:18.57 | fewyn | level 10 |
| 02:18.58 | fewyn | lol |
| 02:18.58 | fewyn | xD |
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| 02:19.54 | Parnic | 2 copies remaining...and i need to test a druid module and a warrior module |
| 02:19.57 | Parnic | sighs |
| 02:20.01 | fewyn | druid? |
| 02:20.05 | fewyn | i be druid |
| 02:20.07 | Parnic | yeah, for lacerates |
| 02:20.15 | Parnic | my 70 druid isn't x-ferred yet. just my priest and rogue |
| 02:20.24 | fewyn | druids are hot in expansion |
| 02:20.28 | Parnic | i bet |
| 02:20.31 | fewyn | but they are still not good |
| 02:20.52 | fewyn | at least not compared to everyone else |
| 02:20.58 | Gnarfoz | <kenlyric> none of those are good reasons <-- if you really think that, then there's also no reason to play live wow at all |
| 02:21.00 | fewyn | at least feral wise |
| 02:21.09 | Parnic | bliz changed how unitbuff/unitdebuff api works |
| 02:21.23 | Parnic | now it returns the time the buff will end so you don't have to ask remaining time every frame |
| 02:21.34 | Parnic | which is better for optimization...but not for updating addons without being able to test :P |
| 02:21.40 | fewyn | awe |
| 02:21.56 | fewyn | 22:21:46 Fewyn has earned the achievement [Explore Borean Tundra]! |
| 02:22.02 | fewyn | yay |
| 02:22.43 | fewyn | Well if you want I could always test it for you, my druid just hit 74 |
| 02:22.56 | Parnic | i think i'm just gonna xfer it :) thanks though |
| 02:23.19 | fewyn | don't mention i'm testing addons left and right as i find them anyways =p |
| 02:23.22 | Parnic | i guess my mage won't get to transfer, lol |
| 02:24.00 | fewyn | heh |
| 02:24.26 | fewyn | 100/557 achievements |
| 02:24.29 | Parnic | nice |
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| 02:43.22 | fewyn | i find it funny when a warlock gives my druid unending breath |
| 02:47.42 | Ellipsis | well maybe you don't want to swim fast! |
| 02:48.15 | fewyn | =p |
| 02:48.55 | Ellipsis | tbh, I only give UB to druids if they're likely to need to fight underwater (e.g. they're going for a quest item that spawns guardians or something) |
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| 03:04.24 | lgrdbldbl | Hey all, other than the addons and libs that are on the jira site, is there any other bug database (bugzilla)? |
| 03:05.23 | lgrdbldbl | or am I limited to emailing random authors to submit patches/fixes? |
| 03:05.40 | Shirik | Why would you use bugzilla over jira? |
| 03:06.11 | lgrdbldbl | I wouldn't, I dont care what it is, but I'm not finding the ace related addons listed in teh jira site |
| 03:06.26 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:06.34 | Shirik | well as far as I'm aware there is no "central" Jira |
| 03:06.35 | lgrdbldbl | Just want to submit fixes so when I update addons I dont have to go back in and repatch |
| 03:06.38 | lgrdbldbl | ah ok |
| 03:06.44 | lgrdbldbl | so mostly emailing authors |
| 03:08.25 | lgrdbldbl | it's not much just removing taint from addons on load so as to eliminate the blizz warning on first use of a secure action, sucks when an action failed because the addon's secure frames weren't untainted |
| 03:11.32 | Ellipsis | posting on the forums is preferable to email in some (most?) cases |
| 03:11.41 | Ellipsis | because many addons are maintained by people other than their original authors |
| 03:12.48 | lgrdbldbl | ok! cool, I'll look into that. Thanks a lot for the help all |
| 03:14.57 | lgrdbldbl | Nice, I found the forum for addons and at least one is listed as a topic, thanks again! |
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| 03:20.51 | CIA-47 | 03parnic * r80877 10IceHUD/modules/ (5 files): |
| 03:20.51 | CIA-47 | IceHUD: |
| 03:20.51 | CIA-47 | - updated SunderCount/LacerateCount modules to use the new UnitDebuff return values in wotlk properly/register the changed wotlk events |
| 03:20.51 | CIA-47 | - updated SliceAndDice module to be more efficient outside of combat (avoids unnecessary OnUpdate stuff) |
| 03:20.51 | CIA-47 | - updated SliceAndDice module to use the new UnitBuff return values in wotlk properly/register the changed wotlk events/new combo point parameters |
| 03:20.56 | CIA-47 | - updated DruidMana module to update every frame in wotlk since the other mana frames need to...this still needs dogtag to be updated to work fully in wotlk |
| 03:20.59 | CIA-47 | - updated ComboPoints module to use the new combo point functionality and events in wotlk |
| 03:21.51 | Gnarfoz | so my pinkhaired ponytails gnome is now a redhaired emo gnome. |
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| 03:23.35 | Gnarfoz | noooo ag is gone :( |
| 03:23.57 | JerleMinara | what |
| 03:25.05 | Gnarfoz | what what :( |
| 03:25.18 | Gnarfoz | ~seen ag` |
| 03:25.19 | purl | ag` <n=Andreas@0x535bbf09.bynxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2h 9m 44s ago, saying: 'thanks'. |
| 03:25.42 | Gnarfoz | now I can't bother him with http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/ag_uf_bars.jpg :( nevcairiel? ^^ |
| 03:39.26 | Ellipsis | Gnarfoz: possibly related to you touching yourself at night |
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| 03:53.36 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: pants. |
| 03:56.21 | Ellipsis | I'm not wearing any; your point? |
| 03:56.44 | fewyn | i need to clean off my desktop |
| 03:56.50 | fewyn | too many zip files cluttering it |
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| 04:33.36 | steev | woo! |
| 04:33.43 | steev | we're about to face hex lord for the first time! |
| 04:34.05 | nocts | The resto shamans. They do nothing |
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| 04:41.58 | Groktar | i must say, i approve of northrend artwork |
| 04:42.43 | fewyn | same |
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| 04:44.33 | CIA-47 | greedbeacon: 03Tekkub 07master * ra4930b2 10/ : ruRU translations from ichik @ wowi - http://is.gd/1RL6 |
| 04:44.44 | CIA-47 | controlfreak: 03Tekkub 07master * r90d6777 10/ tekKonfig/tekKonfigAboutPanel.lua : Embed update - http://is.gd/1RL7 |
| 04:44.44 | CIA-47 | controlfreak: 03Tekkub 07master * r1d95693 10/ ControlFreak.lua : Fix for changes to UnitDebuff in Wrath - http://is.gd/1RL9 |
| 04:46.29 | CIA-47 | 037destiny * r80878 10FuBar_InstanceInfoFu/FuBar_InstanceInfoFu.toc: |
| 04:46.29 | CIA-47 | FuBar_InstanceInfoFu: |
| 04:46.29 | CIA-47 | - fixed bad embeds name |
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| 05:11.19 | steev | so far, 2 failed attempts |
| 05:11.39 | steev | we've got the ogre, dragonkin, fenstalker and waight or whatever it is |
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| 05:14.15 | Zyndrome | 06:41.21 ( Groktar ) i must say, i approve of northrend artwork |
| 05:14.24 | Zyndrome | and more pop culture references |
| 05:14.30 | Zyndrome | "McGoyver" |
| 05:14.46 | Zyndrome | "Lebronski" |
| 05:15.03 | Zyndrome | complaining about people messing with his rug :) |
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| 06:52.48 | Wobin | what's a good addon to track lifebloom? |
| 06:53.30 | Xinhuan | hotcandy |
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| 06:56.30 | Wobin | ta |
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| 07:14.13 | Zyndrome | man |
| 07:14.29 | Zyndrome | doing ~1700 dps with dualwield Frost :/ |
| 07:14.34 | Zyndrome | aint so bad after all |
| 07:19.01 | Zhou | got a question, what is the DPS recount tell? I'm used to view the "effective DPS" showed by SW Stats. Recount works well, the only thing concerned is that the DPS it showed seems not the "effective DPS". With Recount sometimes I got #1 as total damage done, but my "DPS" is not the #1, even much lower than others |
| 07:22.24 | Zhou | how does Recount work? how does it set the time interval used to caculate the DPS. can i set it to use the time that the raid group enter battle? |
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| 07:29.14 | VonhintenHOME` | Anyone know where warhammer keeps its equivalent to the WTF folder? |
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| 07:36.13 | Zyndrome | OMG-folder |
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| 07:59.46 | CIA-47 | 03cwdg 07Ace3 * r80882 10ag_UnitFrames/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:59.46 | CIA-47 | ag_UnitFrames: |
| 07:59.47 | CIA-47 | add zhCN&zhTW locales |
| 07:59.47 | CIA-47 | fix toc locales |
| 07:59.47 | CIA-47 | --locale Valkyrie@CWDG æ¥äº@CWDG 2008-8-24 |
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| 08:05.07 | Wraithan | Is there a pretty good addon for tracking crap that I am farming? |
| 08:06.00 | VonhintenHOME` | tracking in what way? |
| 08:06.39 | Wraithan | as in how much of the items |
| 08:06.47 | VonhintenHOME` | XLoot Monitor |
| 08:06.47 | Wraithan | farmerfu used to be good but it has errors now |
| 08:07.00 | steev | damn |
| 08:07.06 | steev | we didn't get him down :( |
| 08:07.12 | Wraithan | what target? |
| 08:07.19 | steev | hex lord |
| 08:07.26 | steev | was our first time getting to him |
| 08:07.31 | Wraithan | Nice |
| 08:08.05 | steev | he kept draining the pally |
| 08:08.10 | steev | and avenging wrath |
| 08:08.28 | VonhintenHOME` | how many pally's did you bring? |
| 08:09.11 | VonhintenHOME` | Mage spellsteal? Shaman Purge? wings shouldn't be on him for long |
| 08:09.32 | VonhintenHOME` | mass dispell even probably works |
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| 08:18.09 | Wraithan | um maybe I am retarded, how do I get that frame to show with how many I have gathered so far? |
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| 08:23.59 | VonhintenHOME` | every time you pick one up, it'll show up with the count temporarily |
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| 08:29.13 | orionshock | so eh, tradeskills give you general spells now? |
| 08:29.24 | orionshock | im a herbie and i just got Wild Growth... |
| 08:32.11 | steev | VonhintenHOME`: unfortunately i couldn't tell - our gears aren't exactly spectacular, and im the resto shammy trying to keep everyone alive during spirit bolt |
| 08:32.31 | steev | the priest wasn't so great |
| 08:32.58 | steev | they were pugged, and said they couldn't get on vent on that computer, which, imo, is fail and we shoulda booted them right off |
| 08:33.19 | Zhinjio | evenin' |
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| 08:34.51 | vithos | hmm weird |
| 08:34.55 | vithos | BigWigs-2.0.79982\Hyjal\HyjalSummit.lua:340: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 329) near ']' |
| 08:35.12 | vithos | but WUU says r80881 is installed |
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| 08:39.07 | Fisker- | destroys orionshock |
| 08:39.14 | orionshock | aahh |
| 08:39.16 | orionshock | why? |
| 08:39.20 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 08:39.28 | orionshock | :\ |
| 08:39.33 | orionshock | wtb Linux Client for wowhead |
| 08:39.39 | Fisker- | felt like the right thing :o |
| 08:40.09 | orionshock | well do keep lvling or go out and lvl inscription? |
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| 09:11.39 | NeoTron | replaced a green quest reward bracer with a BT epic today! |
| 09:11.45 | NeoTron | our first alt/pug BT run |
| 09:13.03 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, I went into ZA with greens, a day after I hit 70 on my shaman, came out with Rage and Fury |
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| 09:18.26 | CIA-47 | 03ananhaid * r80883 10LittleWigs/TempestKeep/ (Sarannis.lua Splinter.lua): |
| 09:18.26 | CIA-47 | LittleWigs: |
| 09:18.26 | CIA-47 | - TempestKeep zhCN update. |
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| 09:30.24 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/mmoinn.jpg |
| 09:30.36 | Xinhuan | http://pachome2.pacific.net.sg/~xinhuan/wow/mmoinn.jpg |
| 09:30.50 | Xinhuan | i think some script kidie got too bored! |
| 09:30.52 | Vulcanus | wtf XD |
| 09:31.02 | Vulcanus | I thought it was bs that gold farmers started doing that |
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| 09:31.12 | Xinhuan | and 2 people are lying down on the "C" in COM |
| 09:31.16 | Xinhuan | to make it an O instead |
| 09:31.24 | Xinhuan | so ppl are like hey its .oom! |
| 09:31.36 | Vulcanus | XD |
| 09:31.42 | Xinhuan | then 2 extra ppl decided to lie down to make it a Q |
| 09:31.45 | Xinhuan | so its now .QQM |
| 09:31.54 | Vulcanus | haha |
| 09:32.24 | nocts | IP Question: If I'm on a virtual host and I need to connect to it via IP versus domain name... which IP should I be using? |
| 09:33.06 | Xinhuan | either |
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| 09:33.19 | nocts | I can't use the WAN IP. |
| 09:33.32 | nocts | That connects straight to the vitrual host and doesn't branch off. |
| 09:33.56 | pb_ee1 | Hum is Ace3 completely WLK-ready? |
| 09:35.45 | Xinhuan | apparently |
| 09:35.54 | Xinhuan | the script kiddie is now porting his gnomes to die in shattrath |
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| 09:38.08 | VonhintenHOME` | nocts, are you talking about connecting to a certain subdomain via IP? |
| 09:38.22 | nocts | Not a subdomain, a virtual server within a server. |
| 09:38.28 | pb_ee1 | Do you know if Rock will be continued on WotLK? |
| 09:38.32 | nocts | example.com works fine, but a direct connect to the WAN IP does not. |
| 09:38.37 | pb_ee1 | And thanks Xinhuan for your answer |
| 09:38.45 | VonhintenHOME` | nocts, got me, sorry |
| 09:39.04 | Xinhuan | i didn't answer anything! |
| 09:39.16 | Arrowmaster | nocts: as in a webserver and virtual hosts? and not like a server running a virtualization server like vmware? |
| 09:39.23 | AKX | So, I sketched an UI in Pencil (a Firefox extension). http://i.servut.us/i/pencil.png |
| 09:39.28 | nocts | As in virtualization. |
| 09:39.30 | pb_ee1 | ha. lol :p |
| 09:40.37 | Arrowmaster | nocts: does it not have its own ip? |
| 09:40.59 | nocts | The server itself does, yes. |
| 09:41.12 | nocts | Oh, strange. Nevermind. |
| 09:41.17 | nocts | It fixed itself O.o |
| 09:43.30 | pb_ee1 | wtf, getting a 403 error when trying to rename a folder in branches/Elephant on the svn xD |
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| 09:46.13 | pb_ee1 | Fuck, is an admin of the SVN around here? |
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| 09:48.14 | Arrowmaster | 403 usually means your trying to use svn. instead of dev. |
| 09:48.23 | pb_ee1_ | gee. |
| 09:48.38 | pb_ee1_ | kicks his head on the wall. FOUR times. |
| 09:49.13 | pb_ee1_ | Thanks Arrowmaster, forgot that xD |
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| 09:50.12 | CIA-47 | 03pb_ee1 * r80884 10/branches/Elephant/ (WotLK/ WotLK.Mera/): |
| 09:50.12 | CIA-47 | Elephant: |
| 09:50.13 | CIA-47 | WotLK -> WotLK.Mera so that I can create a branch of Elephant using Ace3 |
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| 09:52.14 | CIA-47 | 03pb_ee1 07WotLK * r80885 10Elephant/: Elephant: Creating branch using Ace3 |
| 09:55.50 | pb_ee1_ | Hum btw is it a good idea for a "production" addon to use Ace3 or is still just for testing purpose? |
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| 09:59.16 | nocts | http://pastey.net/94561 |
| 09:59.20 | nocts | Need some help on that diff. |
| 09:59.39 | nocts | Anyone notice that the first two major diff area changes are changing absolutely nothing? |
| 10:00.20 | nocts | Am I reading the diff wrong? O.o Surely the whitespace means -nothing- |
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| 10:03.16 | CIA-47 | 03pb_ee1 * r80886 10/tags/Elephant/: Elephant: Creating tags folder for Elephant |
| 10:04.06 | CIA-47 | 03pb_ee1 0767813 * r80887 10Elephant/: Elephant: Tagging 67813 |
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| 10:34.35 | CIA-47 | 03zhucc * r80888 10YurrCombatLog/Locale-zhTW.lua: |
| 10:34.35 | CIA-47 | YurrCombatLog: |
| 10:34.35 | CIA-47 | - zhTW update |
| 10:38.32 | renchap | can i use tourguide with frFR client ? |
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| 10:43.14 | pb_ee1_ | OnInitialize() and OnEnable() aren't triggered on Ace2 (WLK) anymore? xD |
| 10:44.18 | Nargiddley | make sure you have the latest version of the branch |
| 10:45.25 | pb_ee1_ | woki |
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| 10:48.23 | pb_ee1_ | doesn't change anything T_T |
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| 10:56.34 | CIA-47 | 03pb_ee1 07WotLK * r80889 10Elephant/ (Core-Initialize.lua Core.lua): Elephant: Fixing initialization bugs, thanks to Mera |
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| 11:03.43 | Lukian | are there any themes for agUF (svn) other than the default ABF theme? |
| 11:03.54 | Arrowmaster | pb_ee1_: its working fine afaik |
| 11:04.02 | CIA-47 | 03whitetooth * r80890 10StatLogicLib/StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: StatLogicLib: frFR update for expertise |
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| 11:05.06 | CIA-47 | 03whitetooth * r80891 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-frFR.lua: RatingBuster: frFR update for Expertise |
| 11:09.45 | pb_ee1_ | Arrowmaster: it doesn't |
| 11:10.15 | Arrowmaster | are you using the branch? |
| 11:10.32 | Nargiddley | it wasn't working for me this morning, I updated to that branch and now its working |
| 11:10.36 | pb_ee1_ | yes |
| 11:10.43 | Adys | What was the name of the addon that let you right click to cast fishing if you had fishing pole equipped, and does it still work? |
| 11:10.52 | pb_ee1_ | . /branches/Ace2/WotLK |
| 11:11.07 | Pneumatus | Adys: FishingAce? |
| 11:11.07 | pb_ee1_ | but in the toc it's still 20400 so i don't think it has been update |
| 11:11.11 | pb_ee1_ | +d |
| 11:11.14 | Nargiddley | check you don't have an older version sitting around somewhere |
| 11:11.17 | Adys | ill check Pneumatus thanks |
| 11:12.22 | pb_ee1_ | Anyway i've fixed the problem by registering ADDON_LOADED and PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 11:12.28 | pb_ee1_ | i'll change when it'll be fixed |
| 11:12.33 | Arrowmaster | Adys: FishermansFriend |
| 11:12.52 | Adys | Aye, i think thats the one |
| 11:13.06 | nevcairiel | so did they revert the behaviour of IsAddOnLoaded? |
| 11:13.13 | Arrowmaster | no clue |
| 11:13.23 | Arrowmaster | i cant even install the latest patch yet |
| 11:13.59 | Nargiddley | The change to the branch seemed to just remove a workaround, Baggins started working again when I updated to it. |
| 11:14.35 | Fisker- | why so retrieving character list nevcairiel? |
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| 11:24.54 | dieck_ | hi. is there any option to create AceGui(3) windows with other "starting coordinates" then centered? |
| 11:25.58 | Nargiddley | move it before you show it |
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| 11:26.22 | CIA-47 | 03funkydude * r80892 10BigWigs/Hyjal/HyjalSummit.lua: BigWigs: Hyjal/HyjalSummit: Fix line 340, stinger test your changes, breaking bigwigs is reserved for me. |
| 11:26.32 | dieck_ | ah, that sounds good, can you give me a hint, how? :) I'm quite new to frames :) |
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| 11:27.30 | Nargiddley | do you want the frame to remember its position or always goto your start point ? |
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| 11:37.13 | dieck_ | Nargiddley: sry, had to go afk. always the same start point would be ok, remembering is not neccessary |
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| 11:37.55 | Nargiddley | http://narg.pastey.net/94566 |
| 11:38.11 | dieck | Nargiddley: thx! |
| 11:41.28 | Zhinjio | no Tuller. bah. |
| 11:41.35 | Zhinjio | anyone using dominoes on beta? |
| 11:41.46 | Zhinjio | er, dominos |
| 11:41.50 | Zhinjio | (sic) |
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| 11:49.07 | steev | im not in beta :( |
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| 11:51.54 | orionshock | i still hate locks |
| 11:51.56 | orionshock | .... |
| 11:53.13 | steev | who doesn't? |
| 11:53.19 | orionshock | locks |
| 11:53.24 | orionshock | curse them and their dots |
| 11:53.32 | orionshock | im a DK, and i still can't kill one |
| 11:53.43 | orionshock | granted i suck at pvp, and in crap gear.. but im a hero class |
| 11:53.48 | orionshock | QQ's |
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| 11:59.32 | CIA-47 | 03wobin * r80893 10Xparky/ (11 files): Xparky - Even more separation of classes. Makes it a bit more easier to handle. |
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| 12:12.19 | nevcairiel | so Wobin, does svn xparky work? |
| 12:12.32 | Wobin | well it doesn't bug anymore |
| 12:12.42 | Wobin | it's back at the stage before the setup works |
| 12:13.02 | Wobin | so functionally it can provide the bars required, just nothing about the framework to go about customising them |
| 12:18.18 | CIA-47 | 03chexsum * r80894 10KillingSpree/ (5 files in 3 dirs): |
| 12:18.18 | CIA-47 | KillingSpree: |
| 12:18.18 | CIA-47 | - Fix a couple of bugs |
| 12:19.43 | CIA-47 | 03pb_ee1 07WotLK * r80895 10Elephant/Elephant.toc: Elephant: Updating TOC number. |
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| 12:47.31 | orionshock | anyone else find it wrong that i get 3 shotted in under 4 seconds? |
| 12:47.40 | orionshock | i've got ~9k HP |
| 12:51.05 | dieck | grrrr. are ALL UTF8 chars allowed in the player names? |
| 12:51.52 | Wobin | yes |
| 12:51.55 | Wobin | well |
| 12:51.56 | Wobin | I think so |
| 12:52.38 | dieck | oh nice. so I have to think of a way to convert strings in php into the \195\xxx syntax... |
| 12:54.38 | Wobin | http://au2.php.net/manual/en/function.utf8-encode.php#75942 |
| 12:55.47 | Wobin | or something of the like |
| 12:56.15 | Zhinjio | so, beta... whats the deal with disembedded libs? |
| 12:56.24 | Zhinjio | they need toc updates to run? |
| 12:56.29 | Zhinjio | was that the deal? |
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| 13:02.53 | Wobin | I hate writing configs |
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| 13:14.26 | dieck | Wobin: http://ace.pastey.net/94575 :) |
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| 13:24.48 | Wobin | dieck: nice =) |
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| 13:25.33 | Zhinjio | EBB is borked in beta then, I guess. bah |
| 13:27.29 | dieck | Wobin: I don't know if splitting the utf8 string derived from a char will work in any case, maybe some future php version uses utf8 completely, but for now it works fine here :) |
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| 13:53.12 | Esine | Hey. Anyone know where I could get the r65669 of AceGUI-3.0 please? I can't access the SVN as I don't have a user account nor do you seem to accept anonymous logins (or I used a wrong uri) |
| 13:54.30 | Chompers | http://files.wowace.com/Ace3/Ace3-r65669.zip |
| 13:54.32 | Chompers | that one? |
| 13:55.01 | Esine | thanks. exactly what I was looking for |
| 14:05.43 | thul | Hmm, trying to find a ok all-round spec... 41/20 mutilate or combat swords? |
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| 14:06.43 | VonhintenHOME` | far as I'm concerned you can't beat combat |
| 14:07.02 | VonhintenHOME` | swords, fists or hammer, just not dagger |
| 14:07.04 | thul | well, I'm thinking about 5-man heorics and som ecasual pvp |
| 14:07.31 | thul | i have s2 swords and s2 daggers and both daggers from kara and fists (big bad wolf paw + s1) |
| 14:07.41 | thul | but I just feel that combat swords is a bit sluggish in pvp |
| 14:07.44 | VonhintenHOME` | modified combat then, go for gouge, parry, riposte, expose armor, imp evisc |
| 14:07.47 | thul | i just can't dish out much damage in bg. |
| 14:07.50 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 14:08.06 | Esine | did you hear they're nerfing riposte in wotlk? riposte won't actually disarm the enemy anymore |
| 14:08.06 | VonhintenHOME` | you can go subtlety, but your PVE dps is gonna suck cock |
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| 14:08.57 | VonhintenHOME` | they need to boost riposte imo, fucking thing doesn't even give a combo point |
| 14:09.44 | thul | that was what i found out, tried doing heroic with backstab/shadowstep build :-P |
| 14:09.49 | thul | that sucked major bigtime |
| 14:10.42 | VonhintenHOME` | It used to be better, before they nerfed hemo |
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| 14:11.00 | VonhintenHOME` | you could get away with a pvp spec in pve (just not raiding) |
| 14:13.24 | Wobin | whut |
| 14:13.31 | Wobin | what's riposte going to do? |
| 14:13.31 | thul | well, trying combat swords (standard build) now |
| 14:13.35 | Wobin | Call their mother a bad name? |
| 14:14.00 | Wobin | wait, they nerfed hemo? When? |
| 14:14.11 | Esine | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.11 | Wobin | >< |
| 14:14.26 | Wobin | would it stack? =) |
| 14:14.38 | Esine | I don't know |
| 14:14.59 | Wobin | if it stacked and rolled, it would be good =P |
| 14:15.16 | Wobin | you could stack parry, and bring people to a halt =P |
| 14:15.45 | Wobin | would never happen... but amusing to dream |
| 14:15.49 | dieck | I don't think it'll be stacking. maybe from different rogues. |
| 14:16.05 | Esine | http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Rogue#tab=Revised_Abilities lots more rogue stuff here btw |
| 14:16.15 | VonhintenHOME` | they nerfed hemo in the same patch they nerfed cheat death |
| 14:16.27 | Esine | oh man they shouldn't hav touched cheating death |
| 14:16.38 | Esine | in the old days you could ALWAYS stay alive for 3 seconds longer |
| 14:16.47 | Esine | but now cheating death does basically nothing |
| 14:17.06 | Esine | it's only useful when fighting a single enemy with low speed melee weapons |
| 14:17.13 | VonhintenHOME` | I like to pvp as a modified combat, I like the cheat death change :) |
| 14:17.19 | Esine | :( |
| 14:17.21 | VonhintenHOME` | no more shit ass rogues living long enough to kill me |
| 14:17.36 | VonhintenHOME` | or get me killed by others |
| 14:17.50 | Wobin | nice kick not being gcd |
| 14:18.07 | Esine | wait what global cooldown |
| 14:18.14 | Esine | also kick no longer does damage |
| 14:18.37 | Wobin | although being kicked to death is amusing, it was never really used for damage =P |
| 14:18.48 | Wobin | and mace spec no longer stunning? |
| 14:18.53 | Esine | well it was still some nice 300 or so dmg :P |
| 14:18.54 | Wobin | WHERE HAS ALL THE FUN GONE? |
| 14:19.50 | Esine | I really dig the new sub talent/ability though. Shadow Dance: Instantly enter stealth and begin the Shadow Dance. For 9 sec you will reenter stealth every 3 secs. |
| 14:19.56 | thul | ok, I hate combat swords in pvp :-P |
| 14:20.06 | Esine | you could ambush twice and then cheap shot.. |
| 14:20.44 | thul | mhm |
| 14:20.46 | VonhintenHOME` | thul. it's all about the adrenaline rush, blade flurry, and undodgeable kidney shot :) |
| 14:20.52 | thul | VonhintenHOME`:P |
| 14:20.56 | thul | ill try it more |
| 14:20.59 | thul | i guess |
| 14:21.00 | VonhintenHOME` | rogue evasion? pff.. kidney shot, good night |
| 14:21.10 | Wobin | When you have less than 35% health, all damage taken is reduced by 5/10/15% and you are treated as if you are at full health. |
| 14:21.20 | Wobin | treated as if you are at full health? |
| 14:21.27 | VonhintenHOME` | i.e. Execute won't work on you |
| 14:21.31 | Wobin | ah |
| 14:21.40 | thul | sexyness |
| 14:21.49 | thul | I guess I'll go subt at 80 |
| 14:22.05 | VonhintenHOME` | except Warriors will still hit you for a fucking bajillion |
| 14:22.22 | Wobin | Murder Spree seems... insane =P |
| 14:23.04 | VonhintenHOME` | and they will be hitting you for a bajillion with 2 2-handers dual wielded, instead of just one... |
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| 14:24.49 | Gnarfoz | they won't because MS will still be the pvp spec ;p |
| 14:25.17 | thul | maybe I should level my warrior:P |
| 14:25.18 | Wobin | Shadow Dance looks cool |
| 14:25.19 | Wobin | did you see the clip? |
| 14:25.26 | Esine | Wobin, link |
| 14:25.54 | Wobin | http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Rogue#tab=Media |
| 14:26.23 | Gnarfoz | too bad murder spree still doesn't seem to work :X |
| 14:26.42 | Wobin | The description seems a bit... vague |
| 14:27.00 | Wobin | is it essentially an 'aoe' of sorts? |
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| 14:27.29 | Wobin | or like chain lightning |
| 14:27.35 | Wobin | where YOU ARE THE LIGHTNING! |
| 14:27.56 | Wobin | . o O ("Hwaaoorr... ") |
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| 14:30.08 | thul | shadowstep, ambush, shadow dance, amush, ambush, cs? |
| 14:30.19 | Saryai | ^ pain. |
| 14:30.21 | Esine | thul, indeed |
| 14:30.39 | thul | with the damage i do today with ambush on low-res cloth, that would mean death halfway trough :-P |
| 14:30.47 | Saryai | Why can't I find a way to change bar alphas in oUF_p3lim? >.< |
| 14:31.04 | Gnarfoz | thul: also, I doubt you regen as much energy as you'd need for that. |
| 14:31.17 | Esine | thul, more than that. my ambush crits do 3k on cloth (mage) and it crits like 80% of the time |
| 14:31.54 | Esine | and since there'll be the talent to lower energy costs of ambush and backstab you can really do many of them in a row |
| 14:32.00 | thul | Gnarfoz: true |
| 14:32.09 | thul | Esine: I do 4800 on low-res cloth |
| 14:32.12 | thul | :-P |
| 14:32.21 | thul | (with berserkerbuff ofc) |
| 14:32.28 | Esine | with beserker.. |
| 14:32.46 | Saryai | Heh... last rogue to ambush crit me did like 1k... Then again, 400 resil plate does that. >.> |
| 14:33.04 | Gnarfoz | rogues who know their shit don't ambush, anyway :p |
| 14:33.11 | Esine | Saryai, well yeah, ambush is not for against plate |
| 14:33.17 | Saryai | Yar. |
| 14:33.37 | Esine | Gnarfoz, depends on the situation. if it's a fair 1vs1 then no you shouldn't use it as a starter against any class really |
| 14:33.44 | Saryai | I see uses for ShS -> Prep -> ShS -> Ambush on low hp clothies though. |
| 14:33.48 | Esine | but sometimes you just really want to do burst dmg |
| 14:33.57 | Saryai | Could be a game ender when placed properly |
| 14:33.59 | Gnarfoz | what a waste of prep |
| 14:34.07 | thul | Gnarfoz: pfft, ambush rocks :-P |
| 14:34.14 | Gnarfoz | uhm no it doesn't |
| 14:34.20 | Gnarfoz | stuns rock |
| 14:34.24 | Gnarfoz | bleeds do |
| 14:34.25 | thul | pfft, noes |
| 14:34.26 | Saryai | Only seen it done once. He had all cds burned. =P |
| 14:34.31 | thul | stuns = trinkets |
| 14:34.34 | Gnarfoz | once. |
| 14:34.37 | thul | ambush = no trinket |
| 14:34.37 | thul | :-D |
| 14:34.39 | Gnarfoz | attacks that rely on critting in the age of resilience don't rock |
| 14:34.56 | Leptus | ShS is needed and only needed while you are slowed |
| 14:35.10 | thul | well, shadowstep, ambush (the crit percentage is 75% , you _will_ crit 1/2 anyway), shiv, ks.. :-) stun AND damage |
| 14:35.24 | Esine | oh, and Gnarfoz you're forgetting the new sub talent.. ambush crits will reduce your target to 50% speed for 8 sec |
| 14:35.33 | Gnarfoz | waylay. |
| 14:35.37 | Esine | so ambush will be a lot more prelevant in wotlk than it is today |
| 14:35.38 | Esine | yes |
| 14:35.45 | VonhintenHOME` | ambush is still gonna do more than a garrote |
| 14:35.50 | VonhintenHOME` | most of the time |
| 14:35.59 | Gnarfoz | and I'm not forgetting it, I'm discount it because I think ambush sucks bigtime, like everything that involves daggers and isn't mutilate. |
| 14:36.11 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 14:36.11 | Esine | nah |
| 14:36.20 | Gnarfoz | (and yes, my main's a rogue :P0 |
| 14:36.20 | Esine | backstab is god against mages and locks |
| 14:36.36 | thul | backstab shadowstep is by _far_ the most fun bg-spec I have tried :-P |
| 14:37.44 | thul | pewpewpew-lotsofdamage, pewpewpew. |
| 14:38.00 | thul | much more fun than "ooops, I try to stun, but he trinketed, then his friend comes, now I AM FUCKED!!!" |
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| 14:38.03 | thul | :-P |
| 14:38.27 | Leptus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.42 | Gnarfoz | I try to stun "but he trinketed"? |
| 14:38.46 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't even work that way |
| 14:38.47 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 14:39.02 | thul | pfft, it does |
| 14:39.07 | thul | you stun, trinket, ms, i die |
| 14:39.08 | thul | :-( |
| 14:39.09 | Gnarfoz | also, daggers don't qualify for "pewpewpew" |
| 14:39.18 | Gnarfoz | uhm are you doing this in greens or what xD |
| 14:39.39 | Leptus | while my target trinketed my stun I feel good....because this mean he cannot trinket my Blind, and I can restealth |
| 14:39.53 | Gnarfoz | or stun again |
| 14:40.04 | Gnarfoz | or vanish & sap |
| 14:40.05 | Gnarfoz | or whatever. |
| 14:40.21 | Esine | gotta wait 5 sec for the target to go out of combat :( |
| 14:40.22 | Gnarfoz | getting someone to blow their trinket is dead easy :X |
| 14:40.51 | Saryai | Grr... really feeling retarded now, I can't for the life of me find where p3lim put his background texture colors... |
| 14:41.09 | Leptus | if you want stun and kill your target during the stun, that's impossible, unless your target is a noob |
| 14:41.09 | p3lim | I have no background texture colors |
| 14:41.16 | Saryai | o.0 |
| 14:41.18 | p3lim | I use vertex colors for backdrops |
| 14:41.20 | Saryai | hai p3lim |
| 14:41.30 | Saryai | That might be why I can't find it. |
| 14:41.34 | p3lim | what addon are you talking about btw? |
| 14:41.39 | Saryai | ouf_p3lim |
| 14:41.49 | p3lim | :SetTexture(0.3, 0.3, 0.3) |
| 14:42.36 | Saryai | Not seeing it. |
| 14:42.43 | p3lim | what unit? |
| 14:43.02 | Saryai | All, the healthbar backdrops |
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| 14:43.16 | Saryai | Can screenie real quick and show you |
| 14:44.28 | p3lim | ok |
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| 14:47.55 | Saryai | http://img369.imageshack.us/my.php?image=44950171yr7.jpg |
| 14:49.10 | p3lim | the gray i guess |
| 14:49.14 | Saryai | yeah |
| 14:49.24 | Saryai | Think I might've just found it... sec, testing |
| 14:49.26 | p3lim | self.Health.bg:SetTexture(0.3, 0.3, 0.3) |
| 14:49.27 | Leptus | is there an addon that can track the diminishing return of CC returns ? (except Natur) |
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| 14:52.24 | Saryai | I have self.Health.bg:SetTexture(0.25 *1.2, 0.25 * 1.2, 0.35 * 0.8) |
| 14:52.31 | p3lim | ah yeah I changed it |
| 14:52.35 | Saryai | must be why I was looking at it funky |
| 14:52.36 | p3lim | but its pretty much the same |
| 14:52.51 | Saryai | yeah... why the math anyway? |
| 14:53.00 | p3lim | was using locals before |
| 14:53.05 | Saryai | I see. |
| 14:53.12 | Saryai | Better to update and do it that way? |
| 14:53.31 | p3lim | The beta version has 0.3 etc |
| 14:54.17 | Saryai | *shrug* think I'll stuck with my local copy. To add alpha, just add another value on the end? |
| 14:54.17 | p3lim | havent updated stable version yet |
| 14:55.26 | p3lim | that or.. :SetAlpha() |
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| 14:56.15 | Saryai | gonna have to :SetAlpha() it, didn't work the first way |
| 14:56.25 | Saryai | Got the color where I want at least |
| 14:56.38 | p3lim | may I ask what color? |
| 14:56.54 | p3lim | cause im not quite happy with my current bg color |
| 14:57.16 | Saryai | 0.1, 0.1, 0.1, 0.5 alpha |
| 14:57.20 | p3lim | k |
| 14:57.27 | Saryai | The gray was way too bright |
| 14:57.43 | Saryai | Really just trying to get it similar to my tooltips |
| 14:58.17 | Saryai | correction, 0.1, 0.1, 0.2 |
| 14:58.22 | Lysithea | Leptus DRtracker |
| 14:58.57 | Saryai | self.Health.bg:SetAlpha(0.5) not working |
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| 14:59.27 | Saryai | Not throwing errors, just doing nothing. =\ |
| 14:59.34 | Leptus | Lysithea: thanks |
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| 15:00.24 | Russel-Athletic | hiho |
| 15:00.41 | Saryai | loha? |
| 15:00.48 | Russel-Athletic | does anybody know an ace function where i can suspend and resume addons (like the disable and enable checkboxes in the config dialogs) |
| 15:01.01 | Russel-Athletic | or any other way how i can do this |
| 15:01.17 | Saryai | Depends on what exactly you're trying to do? |
| 15:01.32 | Russel-Athletic | ok |
| 15:01.57 | Russel-Athletic | most addons (like grid) have an enable/disable checkbox which (i think) just disables the visible part or something like that |
| 15:02.29 | Saryai | Or completely stops the addon from functioning until enabled, yeah |
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| 15:03.07 | Russel-Athletic | so how can i access this function? |
| 15:04.28 | Saryai | From ld50_abar (first one that came to mind with a single lua file and a disable function)... |
| 15:04.30 | Russel-Athletic | the reason is, i want a one-click setup like addon, where i just have to click one button and it enables all addons and other settings i need for an instance |
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| 15:04.44 | CIA-47 | 03oojoo * r80896 10BigWigs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): BigWigs: small deDE tweaks |
| 15:04.44 | CIA-47 | 03wobin * r80897 10Xparky/ (8 files): Xparky - Can now create new xp/rep bars. Can't do much with them yet, aside from change breadth and delete them... |
| 15:04.47 | Saryai | function LD50_abar:OnDisable() |
| 15:05.18 | Wobin | There used to be an addon that allowed you to create 'sets' of addons to load/unload |
| 15:05.22 | Saryai | OnEnable() would be the reverse |
| 15:05.26 | Wobin | CAn't for the life of me recall what it was called |
| 15:05.28 | Russel-Athletic | perhaps you missunderstood: i want to do this to other addons |
| 15:05.41 | Oojoo | acp? |
| 15:05.54 | Saryai | acp does it, maybe ampere |
| 15:06.14 | Saryai | p3lim: Any idea why SetAlpha() isn't working on that bg? |
| 15:06.43 | p3lim | cause there is a backdrop |
| 15:06.45 | Saryai | Nope, not ampere. Pretty sure I remember ACP doing exactly that though |
| 15:06.59 | Wobin | that's it |
| 15:06.59 | Wobin | acp |
| 15:07.24 | Saryai | Was staring right at it... reloading ui, heh |
| 15:07.48 | p3lim | Saryai: that bg is too dark imo |
| 15:08.03 | Saryai | Woot, worked |
| 15:08.18 | Saryai | Works better for my taste. *shrug* |
| 15:09.07 | Russel-Athletic | well i want my own addon |
| 15:09.32 | Saryai | I'd take a look at how ACP does it. |
| 15:09.56 | Russel-Athletic | i will try |
| 15:10.06 | Saryai | Really, best way to go about enabling/disabling addons is to use the ingame API for it |
| 15:10.23 | Saryai | Looking at ACP or Ampere would give you a good idea on how that works |
| 15:10.37 | Saryai | cheers |
| 15:10.40 | Saryai | Worked |
| 15:11.53 | p3lim | EnableAddOn('PitBull'); ReloadUI() |
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| 15:12.47 | Russel-Athletic | EnableAddOn seems to be it |
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| 15:12.52 | Russel-Athletic | but i am not quite sure |
| 15:13.12 | Saryai | p3lim, any idea how much pain it would be to set an out-of-combat alpha? |
| 15:13.38 | Russel-Athletic | ok the EnableAddOn is not what i want |
| 15:13.49 | Russel-Athletic | it completly disables/enables the addon (like blizzard does) |
| 15:13.55 | p3lim | oUF_Caellian has that function, take a look at his work |
| 15:14.01 | Saryai | Will do. |
| 15:14.09 | Russel-Athletic | but i want only the "soft" disable/enable that grid has |
| 15:14.21 | Russel-Athletic | that is why i called it resume/standby |
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| 15:15.07 | CIA-47 | 03Octane666 07WotLK * r80898 10SpamMeNot/ (9 files in 2 dirs): |
| 15:15.07 | CIA-47 | SpamMeNot: |
| 15:15.07 | CIA-47 | - Continuing WotLK rewrite. Too many changes to list. |
| 15:15.07 | CIA-47 | - Now has config GUI |
| 15:15.07 | CIA-47 | - Seems to be filtering correctly, including level blocking. |
| 15:17.15 | Saryai | Russel-Athletic: Not all addons, even ace, have a disable function |
| 15:17.42 | Saryai | IIRC at least, don't think it's built in |
| 15:17.57 | Russel-Athletic | what do you mean? |
| 15:18.28 | Russel-Athletic | is the EnableAddOn somehow overwritten in addons? |
| 15:19.22 | nevcairiel | You have to write the "soft" disable yourself |
| 15:19.24 | Saryai | No, I mean a lot of addons go by the game's enable/disable (completely disabling until enable and reloadui) rather than keeping a soft disable function |
| 15:19.30 | nevcairiel | there is no way something could do that automatically |
| 15:19.44 | Russel-Athletic | Saryai: yes i know |
| 15:20.07 | Russel-Athletic | but the 2 addons i want to get enabled/disabled have such a thing |
| 15:20.07 | Saryai | Detecting which addons have a soft disable function may even be impossible. |
| 15:20.44 | Russel-Athletic | well and the grid developers told me: "The suspend functionality is provided by AceAddon-2.0." |
| 15:21.37 | nevcairiel | You still have to code alot of that by yourself |
| 15:21.43 | Saryai | Yeah. |
| 15:21.45 | nevcairiel | like what to do when going in standby |
| 15:21.49 | nevcairiel | what to disable |
| 15:21.52 | nevcairiel | what to hide |
| 15:21.53 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 15:22.10 | Russel-Athletic | nevcairiel: you don't understand, i don't want the soft disable in my addon, i want to access soft disable for other addons |
| 15:22.14 | Saryai | You could take a look at the options table of the addons you want to enable/disable and see how those functions are called |
| 15:22.43 | Russel-Athletic | i want to say something like: Resume(grid) and than it does the things to soft enable grid |
| 15:22.58 | Saryai | So look at grid's code. |
| 15:23.09 | Russel-Athletic | Saryai: sorry, i tried tried this... but i didn't get any clue |
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| 15:23.28 | Russel-Athletic | and grid seems to use some strange ui library which i too don't understand |
| 15:23.36 | cncfanatics | ~seen Wraithan |
| 15:23.37 | purl | wraithan is currently on #wowace (2d 22h 53m 27s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 7h 5m 28s, last said: 'um maybe I am retarded, how do I get that frame to show with how many I have gathered so far?'. |
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| 15:25.49 | Osstia|mac | anyone here played a deathknight in the beta yet? |
| 15:25.57 | Saryai | You COULD do a GridLayoutFrame:Hide()... |
| 15:26.30 | Saryai | No guarantees if it hides anything but the background, but it's a start |
| 15:26.51 | CIA-47 | 03jerry * r80899 10LibItemBonus-2.0/LibItemBonus-2.0/core.lua: LibItemBonus-2.0: fix Initialization so that it's done before the user has a chance to call the API |
| 15:26.52 | Russel-Athletic | i could try this... |
| 15:27.09 | Russel-Athletic | i am sorry but at the moment i feel a bit stupid and angry |
| 15:27.22 | Saryai | No worries. |
| 15:27.37 | Saryai | It's rather easy for both to happen when coding. |
| 15:27.48 | Groktar | omg, mur'ghouls! |
| 15:27.50 | Groktar | i am so down |
| 15:27.54 | Russel-Athletic | i search like 2 hours for documentation on anything, than i ask the grid guys, which say "it is provided by ace-addon 2.0", than i do a thread in wowace wher enobody answers and than nobody seems to know what the grid guys are talking about |
| 15:29.02 | Saryai | Happens to the best of us. When all else fails, take a rogue and some explosive sheep to an opposing faction's starting area. |
| 15:29.20 | Saryai | Come back to it after some giggles. |
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| 15:31.51 | Saryai | Huh... can't find Caellian's code for OOC alpha... |
| 15:32.00 | Russel-Athletic | uh |
| 15:32.09 | Saryai | No REGEN_DISABLED event... |
| 15:32.09 | Russel-Athletic | i just found the mentioning of standby mode in the documentation |
| 15:32.57 | rzl | Hi! quick question, I'd like to use some of the wowace libraries in one of my addons. What's the license terms for that? |
| 15:33.19 | nevcairiel | depends on the library |
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| 15:33.36 | rzl | ok so each library has its own license? |
| 15:33.46 | nevcairiel | generally, yes |
| 15:34.02 | rzl | i guess they are included? or are they accessible from the wowace webpage? |
| 15:34.28 | Saryai | They'll either be in the toc or lua file at the header. |
| 15:34.34 | nevcairiel | usually the .toc simply says which license is in use |
| 15:34.44 | nevcairiel | mostly its BSD/MIT or LGPL anyway |
| 15:35.02 | rzl | ok |
| 15:36.21 | Saryai | Bleh, looks like Caellian only has range alpha. =\ |
| 15:37.48 | rzl | well thanks for the info :) i'm back to coding, might come back in case i have more questions ;) |
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| 15:39.40 | Saryai | Guess I'll code it myself. |
| 15:40.46 | Saryai | p3lim: Can you think of a way to set a global alpha for the ouf frames? |
| 15:41.08 | p3lim | oUF.units.player:SetAlpha(x) ? |
| 15:42.16 | Saryai | Might just work. ^_^ |
| 15:42.18 | Trell- | a quick question, how do people code addons that say things like... "my drums are ready in 5 seconds, prepare for 30s of haste" or "{triangle} banish fades in 3 seconds!" |
| 15:42.19 | Trell- | and so on |
| 15:42.29 | Trell- | as far as I knew you couldn't code timers in any addons? |
| 15:42.44 | Trell- | or are they just using macros that say things to /p and pressing them, maybe |
| 15:42.57 | Saryai | Timers are quite easy. |
| 15:43.22 | Saryai | All an addon would have to do is watch cooldowns and report when they're almost ready |
| 15:44.07 | Saryai | You can take a look at any cooldown tracking/reporting addon to see how it works. |
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| 15:50.58 | Trell- | thanks Saryai, I'll take a look |
| 15:51.24 | Saryai | np |
| 15:52.00 | dieck | hm. as GetGameTime() fetches the hour and minute of server time, is there any function to fetch the server date, or at least the timezone? |
| 15:52.12 | cladhaire | there is in wrath, via the calendar api |
| 15:52.14 | cladhaire | so use that |
| 15:52.15 | CIA-47 | 03doktorjet * r80900 10GatherMate/Constants.lua: GatherMate: fixed typo in Constants.lua - "Mine\\rich_throium.tga" -> "Mine\\rich_thorium.tga" |
| 15:52.28 | Saryai | Woot. Badge from gateway blasting. =D |
| 15:52.54 | dieck | cladhaire: i'll have a look, thx |
| 15:53.46 | Saryai | cladhaire: Question... Is it possible at all to use mousewheel bindings with clique? |
| 15:53.54 | cladhaire | no, they aren't clicks. |
| 15:54.15 | cladhaire | I can only do what the Blizzard click-handling system allows me to do |
| 15:54.38 | Saryai | Drat. There go my hopes of mousewheel decurse/abolish. |
| 15:55.50 | Saryai | I did notice that mousewheel camera movement is blocked when over a unitframe though... any real reason for it? |
| 15:56.18 | KriLL3 | anyone else confused with the gear so far in LK? I've seen level 80 blues that makes my S2/4 epics seem... epic... |
| 15:56.43 | Saryai | Well, base stat values via ilvl are a lot higher. |
| 15:56.46 | nevcairiel | i've seen L80 gear that made my T6 gear look old |
| 15:56.59 | Saryai | Saw a couple things that gave like +120 stam |
| 15:57.28 | Saryai | On the other hand, we still have little idea about how scaling works at 80. |
| 15:58.01 | Saryai | For all we know, all an 80 warrior tank might need would be stam, str, and defense rating... which is about all a lot of stuff will be giving |
| 15:58.19 | nevcairiel | there are alot dodge and parry items |
| 15:58.26 | Saryai | yeah. |
| 15:58.30 | nevcairiel | also seen some blockvalue |
| 15:58.45 | Saryai | Hope there's more parry to be seen, honestly... great threat stat. =P |
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| 15:59.16 | nevcairiel | Looking forward to gearing my warrior, those sta values look awesome =P |
| 15:59.53 | Saryai | Yup |
| 15:59.57 | KriLL3 | well you need that much stam, mages at level 70 can reliably crit you for 4-5k dmg :( |
| 16:00.06 | Saryai | No kidding. |
| 16:00.32 | Saryai | Kinda scared to see the numbers on aff locks and ambush/shadowdance rogues. |
| 16:00.55 | KriLL3 | fun being a feral druid on the receiving end of that stuff, range bug + lag + mage that knows how to exploit said issues = not a single hit |
| 16:01.10 | Russel-Athletic | by the way: AceDB:ToggleActive seems to be the right function |
| 16:01.11 | Saryai | I know how that one goes. |
| 16:01.23 | Saryai | Same with warriors too, minus range bug. |
| 16:01.47 | Saryai | I'd hate to have berserking when that crap went off |
| 16:01.56 | chexsum | wow mace spec nerfed |
| 16:01.58 | chexsum | awesome |
| 16:02.20 | chexsum | itll bring skill back into play |
| 16:02.21 | Saryai | <- Swords for life |
| 16:02.40 | Saryai | I pull out my hand of justice in bgs for shits and giggles. =P |
| 16:03.33 | KriLL3 | I loved being stunlocked by warriors |
| 16:03.39 | Saryai | Nothing like seeing "Hand of Justice! Sword Specialization! Hand of Justice! Sword Specialization!" on msbt all in two seconds. =P |
| 16:04.04 | Saryai | It's the mace rogues that annoy me. |
| 16:04.30 | KriLL3 | rogues are too flimsy to annoy, sure they can burst you but after that you're dead |
| 16:04.42 | Saryai | Mace warriors feed me a hot and rage while I'm pounding them, rogues just go "lol evasion". |
| 16:04.43 | KriLL3 | *they're |
| 16:05.18 | KriLL3 | Saryai: when they use evasion I nature's grasph, demo roar, fearire fire and step backwards |
| 16:05.27 | Saryai | Heh |
| 16:05.43 | Killmore | anyone know if already a questhelpers like addon exist for wotlk ? |
| 16:05.58 | KriLL3 | once it runs out I re-bleed em, maul, mangle. :) |
| 16:06.05 | Saryai | Same, or if I'm on my warrior, go to battle stance, thunder clap, overopower, shieldswap |
| 16:06.11 | Saryai | *overpower |
| 16:06.13 | KriLL3 | Killmore: well you'd need data on the quests for it to work |
| 16:06.50 | Killmore | wotlk.wowhead.com got already alot info about quests |
| 16:06.54 | Saryai | Lightheaded may reign supreme for a while after release. |
| 16:07.00 | Xelopheris | yeah killmore, but a lot of stuff isn't final |
| 16:07.12 | Xelopheris | not to mention it's a matter of "what works" |
| 16:07.14 | KriLL3 | yeah and a lot of quests on there has a total of 0 comments |
| 16:07.25 | Xelopheris | You can put every quest in, but if they're not in a logical order of travel, it won't help |
| 16:07.42 | KriLL3 | not to mention it sucks imo digging through comments, much nicer the way questhelper etc work |
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| 16:07.53 | Saryai | Yeah. |
| 16:08.06 | KriLL3 | Xelopheris: well the order isn't as important as the cords of the objective imo |
| 16:08.17 | Xelopheris | The order is very important |
| 16:08.17 | Saryai | I'm sure Carbonite and Questhelper will be up to date by or soon after release. |
| 16:08.24 | KriLL3 | a lot of quests are "south west of here" and you're like... k... and go south west, without knowing how far or what to look for |
| 16:08.34 | Xelopheris | Travel time is one of the biggest downers of questing |
| 16:08.48 | KriLL3 | Xelopheris: I do the order myself in my head, I've leveled enough chars not to need an addon for that |
| 16:09.05 | Xelopheris | if you just need objective locations, wowhead is good for that |
| 16:09.29 | KriLL3 | I generally tend to go from quest hub to quest hub and try to make the last quest done on the previous hub lead me to the next one |
| 16:10.05 | KriLL3 | Xelopheris: yeah but you need to manually find em all in comments, an addon that makes the goal listed in the quest log into a link that displays a node on your map is a lot more convenient |
| 16:10.26 | KriLL3 | Cart2 had that I think |
| 16:10.31 | Xelopheris | Well, if you want the addon, you can start making it. |
| 16:10.32 | KriLL3 | might have been a plugin, dunno |
| 16:10.34 | Saryai | Checked out Carbonite yet KriLL3? |
| 16:10.47 | Xelopheris | cause the amount of work needed to map every quest isn't something cheap |
| 16:10.50 | KriLL3 | Saryai: I'm not into StarWars |
| 16:10.58 | fewyn | How is everyone today? |
| 16:11.04 | Saryai | XD |
| 16:11.18 | KriLL3 | Xelopheris: doesn't addons like that use data from addons that map the locations of stuff? |
| 16:11.32 | Xelopheris | Manual entry |
| 16:11.33 | KriLL3 | or query wowhead and similar sites for the loc of stuff? |
| 16:11.37 | Saryai | It's a quest addon. Gives you a googlemaps-like interface with quest objectives and travel routing. |
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| 16:11.48 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 16:11.58 | KriLL3 | LK compatible? |
| 16:12.08 | Saryai | Dunno... lemme check |
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| 16:12.29 | azraelo | Anyone know if there's a replacement for simple combat log around? |
| 16:12.30 | fewyn | it is now |
| 16:12.38 | fewyn | Saryai and KriLL3 |
| 16:12.48 | KriLL3 | azraelo: the stock one? |
| 16:12.50 | azraelo | or some other mod to make the combat log cleaner? |
| 16:12.51 | fewyn | has paid for the full version of carbonite |
| 16:12.58 | Xelopheris | KriLL3, here's an example of a line out of TourGuide. This is for ONE quest |
| 16:12.59 | Saryai | http://www.carboniteaddon.com btw |
| 16:13.00 | Xelopheris | C The Umbrafen Tribe |N|(82,83).. Kataru is up top in (85,90)| |QID|9747| |
| 16:13.01 | KriLL3 | though I don't like the forced top bar for different filters |
| 16:13.01 | fewyn | not sure |
| 16:13.10 | Saryai | How's the paid version? |
| 16:13.25 | Saryai | I've only used the free one, does everything I want it to |
| 16:13.30 | fewyn | i like it |
| 16:13.31 | KriLL3 | Xelopheris: but as said couldn't it prowl wowhead etc to find the cords by itself? |
| 16:13.31 | fewyn | it works |
| 16:13.34 | fewyn | does what i want it to |
| 16:13.35 | azraelo | Kril: i just hate reading the non-colored, non-formatted text of the stock combat log |
| 16:13.40 | azraelo | i loved the look of SCL |
| 16:13.52 | fewyn | i use uberquest atm for my quest log crap |
| 16:13.54 | KriLL3 | azraelo: errm you can change it |
| 16:14.00 | fewyn | but carbonite just came out with a lk version |
| 16:14.03 | KriLL3 | you can make it any color or colors you want |
| 16:14.03 | fewyn | so i'll switch to it |
| 16:14.20 | Xelopheris | KriLL3, considering a lot of things aren't mapped with coordinates on wowhead, I don't think so |
| 16:14.24 | Xelopheris | stuff like the location of villages |
| 16:14.33 | KriLL3 | why would you need that? |
| 16:14.49 | Xelopheris | So that it can provide direction |
| 16:15.01 | KriLL3 | you're usually sent to an NPC, not the village itself |
| 16:15.21 | KriLL3 | a paid addon? is that even allowed? |
| 16:15.28 | Xelopheris | yeah, but I'm saying there's data in the fucking files that contradicts your idea of it being a datamining addon |
| 16:15.35 | azraelo | krill: heh, i never noticed all that config |
| 16:15.40 | azraelo | i still liked SCL better though |
| 16:15.59 | Saryai | Agreed on SCL... |
| 16:16.03 | azraelo | the format was better like, [You] Fireball [Enemy] 3539 |
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| 16:16.09 | KriLL3 | you can still have that |
| 16:16.13 | azraelo | it still works? |
| 16:16.14 | KriLL3 | it's in the config |
| 16:16.18 | KriLL3 | no, that format |
| 16:16.29 | Saryai | I wanna know how... I can't get it to display nice and neat like that. >.< |
| 16:16.31 | KriLL3 | disable verbal mode or something like that |
| 16:16.47 | KriLL3 | it's all there in the config of the combat log |
| 16:17.18 | azraelo | Disable verbal mode still doesn't display it that neatly |
| 16:17.26 | Saryai | Yeah. =\ |
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| 16:17.55 | azraelo | It's better than it was for sure |
| 16:17.56 | Saryai | My combatlog is still really hard to read with verbose mode off and a bunch of settings tweaked |
| 16:17.58 | azraelo | but definitely nto as good :) |
| 16:18.28 | Xelopheris | Anyone know any simplistic rune-frame addons? |
| 16:18.45 | azraelo | Sary: you can get it 'kinda' close |
| 16:18.55 | azraelo | under formatting, "Show Baces" |
| 16:18.56 | azraelo | Braces |
| 16:18.59 | Saryai | There's a couple on wowinterface, Xel |
| 16:19.04 | Carancu | wasn't it described on the us forum how to turn the look of the combatlog to the same as in nurfed combatlog, or what it was? |
| 16:19.05 | Saryai | Got that on |
| 16:19.12 | Saryai | Still too much. >.< |
| 16:19.25 | KriLL3 | lol got a SS here showing me dodging a rogue 5 times in a row in bearform :D |
| 16:19.47 | Carancu | I mean, there is close to no format you can't get the combatlog to do as it is now azraelo. |
| 16:19.53 | Saryai | HitsMode looks kinda nice |
| 16:19.54 | KriLL3 | Carancu/Saryai linx plz? |
| 16:20.05 | Carancu | trying to find it at the moment :P |
| 16:20.37 | Saryai | Still can't change sentence structure via scripting tweaks. =\ |
| 16:20.51 | Saryai | Gonna try out hitsmode and see how it does |
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| 16:21.11 | Xelopheris | O_O_O GetComboPoints now has parameters!! You can specify the unit and the target |
| 16:21.24 | Saryai | Nice! |
| 16:21.26 | fewyn | if i was a fresh 70 in greens i'd be having a fit when i hit northrend |
| 16:21.33 | Xelopheris | Gonn abe nice seeing how many CP's a rogue has on you |
| 16:21.47 | fewyn | that's interesting |
| 16:21.51 | fewyn | or druid! |
| 16:21.52 | Saryai | No kidding... kidneyshot tracking, anyone? |
| 16:22.04 | Carancu | On how to turn the combatlog into the nurfed combatlog format, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43107123291&sid=1#177 |
| 16:22.07 | Xelopheris | Nobody's afraid of druids, fewyn |
| 16:22.24 | fewyn | ! |
| 16:22.43 | Carancu | so that's why my conditions in Lorhin didn't trigger, no wonder when the function they use have changed. |
| 16:22.53 | fewyn | you totally should Xelopheris! |
| 16:22.57 | fewyn | I'm very scary |
| 16:23.05 | Xelopheris | Fewyn, I'm like, one of the most badass feral druids there is |
| 16:23.10 | fewyn | ! |
| 16:23.12 | Xelopheris | and random vendor-blue warlocks shit on me :( |
| 16:23.14 | fewyn | No that's me, sorry! |
| 16:23.25 | fewyn | <- is pure bad ass |
| 16:23.36 | fewyn | at least in pve |
| 16:23.41 | fewyn | pvp not so much |
| 16:24.11 | KriLL3 | I'm a scary drood |
| 16:24.22 | Carancu | gotta love talented tigers fury as a feral. if I could just use up the energy faster than it regens... |
| 16:24.49 | KriLL3 | tiger's fury + berserk = infinite energy |
| 16:25.10 | KriLL3 | we need something that costs energy and doesn't use gcd |
| 16:25.21 | fewyn | i agree! |
| 16:25.36 | fewyn | i don't think i've ever used tigers fury |
| 16:25.44 | Carancu | as Coldarra is at the moment it takes longer to use shred than it takes to gain the energy for it. Makes it feel like it's a rts and not a mmo. |
| 16:25.47 | KriLL3 | well there is a reason |
| 16:25.59 | KriLL3 | before LK it just boosted the dmg of your white hits |
| 16:26.05 | KriLL3 | and it cost 20 energy |
| 16:26.05 | fewyn | i forget what it does now that you mention it |
| 16:26.06 | azraelo | One thing i can't get in the combat log formatting...is crushing, crits, etc |
| 16:26.22 | Carancu | +dmg, and talentented it gives you up to 60 energy on use. |
| 16:26.27 | azraelo | I loved,...[You] Fireball [Monster] 5429C |
| 16:26.27 | qwesto | Saryai, azraelo: maybe NotSimpleCombatLog does what you want? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9598-NotSimpleCombatLog.html |
| 16:26.35 | fewyn | interesting |
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| 16:26.54 | azraelo | ooh |
| 16:26.57 | azraelo | i'll check it out now |
| 16:27.09 | KriLL3 | it has cooldown but doesn't cost energy, before it didn't have a cooldown and cost energy |
| 16:27.12 | fewyn | ah |
| 16:27.18 | Carancu | azaerelo, did you read the posts by slouken? it actually states more or less exactly how to turn the combatlog exactly like you want it too. |
| 16:27.21 | Saryai | Saw that the other day actually |
| 16:27.27 | fewyn | i did not know tiger's fury had that... i did pick up king of the jungle |
| 16:27.32 | fewyn | time to add it to my bars! |
| 16:27.34 | azraelo | Didn't see it....was it stickied? |
| 16:27.38 | Saryai | I'll be checking it out in a sec, hitsmode is kinda fun to set up |
| 16:27.45 | Carancu | azraelo: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2968233433&postId=43107123291&sid=1#177 |
| 16:27.51 | azraelo | I did a forum search for combat log |
| 16:28.36 | Carancu | pounce, mangle, and then three shreds before pounce wear off, lovely burst damage. |
| 16:28.44 | fewyn | yep |
| 16:29.06 | Carancu | sometimes I even get in four shreds due to lag. |
| 16:29.07 | KriLL3 | Carancu: I haven't been able to do more than 2 due to gcd and lag |
| 16:29.31 | azraelo | carancu: that's a great guide there |
| 16:29.37 | azraelo | thanks, I'll go through all of that later today |
| 16:29.50 | azraelo | Do I need to do that for every toon? |
| 16:30.01 | Carancu | that I'm not sure of. |
| 16:30.01 | azraelo | or are those variables account-wide? |
| 16:30.05 | KriLL3 | can't you copy a file somewhere? |
| 16:30.28 | KriLL3 | chat windows etc are in a .txt you can copy |
| 16:30.47 | fewyn | You know what's wonderful? |
| 16:31.00 | fewyn | That first sip of caffine in the morning |
| 16:31.07 | Carancu | I think the filters are accountwide, atleast it seems so as I can access it on my dev-toon, and I have not touched the combatlog on that one. |
| 16:32.06 | azraelo | Kri: what file do I copy to just set my chat windows up for all toons the same? |
| 16:32.08 | Saryai | Alright, hitsmode isn't what I want. |
| 16:32.15 | Saryai | Trying notsimplecombatlog now |
| 16:32.17 | azraelo | ie. chat boxes, locations, colors, settings, etc |
| 16:32.23 | KriLL3 | fewyn: the sad part is that caffè latte is one of my favorite things in the morning but I'm lactose intolerant :< |
| 16:32.30 | azraelo | why is my name completion not working...lol |
| 16:32.47 | KriLL3 | would also be nice imo if the "you killed" message appeared after the killing blow... |
| 16:33.33 | Saryai | WOOT |
| 16:33.36 | Saryai | I LIKE THIS |
| 16:33.51 | Saryai | Now, to figure out a way to replace "Your" with "You" |
| 16:34.10 | fewyn | KriLL3: which is why i don't drink them, because i am lactose intolerant |
| 16:34.16 | fewyn | I drink sodas |
| 16:34.20 | KriLL3 | eww soda |
| 16:34.21 | fewyn | and lots of water |
| 16:35.55 | Carancu | azraelo: the chatframe settings are in layout-cache.txt and chat-cache.txt |
| 16:35.59 | KriLL3 | would be even cooler if you could make it even more basic, <mangle> <1426> etc :> |
| 16:36.06 | Saryai | Anyone know if I can perform subs in the combatlog? |
| 16:36.17 | Saryai | Must change "Your" to "You"... |
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| 16:37.30 | kenlyric | huh? |
| 16:37.34 | kenlyric | for comedy? |
| 16:37.40 | Saryai | Nah. |
| 16:37.44 | Saryai | Sec for example |
| 16:38.18 | aestil | how is blizzard nerfing heroism so that we don't bring 5 shaman to every raid? |
| 16:38.31 | Saryai | [You] ++ [Enrage] |
| 16:38.48 | kenlyric | it says Your now? |
| 16:38.54 | Saryai | [Your] melee [Bash'ir Raider] 1560 |
| 16:39.15 | kenlyric | ah |
| 16:39.17 | Saryai | Just wanna keep it from swapping between "You" and "Your" like that. |
| 16:39.30 | kenlyric | well, that's english |
| 16:39.53 | fewyn | maybe bloodlust won't stack and it will affect the entire raid aestil? |
| 16:40.11 | aestil | fewyn: that would buff it |
| 16:40.19 | aestil | 5 shaman for raidwide haste? |
| 16:40.21 | aestil | omg |
| 16:40.35 | Saryai | All they need to do with bloodlust/heroism is add a debuff preventing future applications for, say 1 minute |
| 16:40.35 | fewyn | not really |
| 16:40.38 | fewyn | if it doesn't stack |
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| 16:40.47 | aestil | uh. |
| 16:40.51 | aestil | its 40 second buff? |
| 16:41.04 | Saryai | Post-fade, heh |
| 16:41.06 | fewyn | make it more like drums? |
| 16:41.12 | Saryai | yeah |
| 16:41.13 | aestil | so you can chain it one after the other so that 25 people have haste for 40 seconds * however many shaman you bring? |
| 16:41.18 | fewyn | where you can't have it up for x time |
| 16:41.22 | aestil | have they done that yet? |
| 16:41.28 | fewyn | they changed drums |
| 16:41.32 | fewyn | not blust |
| 16:41.39 | aestil | to be like drums you'd have to give heroism a 10 min debuff |
| 16:41.43 | Saryai | That's all they need to do honestly |
| 16:41.47 | aestil | drums has 2 min CD and 2 min debuff. |
| 16:41.49 | Saryai | Eh |
| 16:42.04 | aestil | heroisms will still be incredibly useful. |
| 16:42.14 | fewyn | lwing isn't common |
| 16:42.23 | Saryai | I'd keep heroism at 10 mins and throw a 1:40-2:00 debuff on it to prevent stacking |
| 16:42.25 | fewyn | at least it wasn't until sunwell/late-bt when i see mages pick it up |
| 16:42.27 | aestil | fewyn: you must not be in an end game guild. |
| 16:42.31 | fewyn | no i am =p |
| 16:43.15 | aestil | we have like 10 LW now for drums. |
| 16:43.15 | fewyn | a lot of dps classes are picking up lwing just for drums |
| 16:43.16 | fewyn | i wish i could drop a profession on my druid for drums |
| 16:43.17 | fewyn | but i can't drop jcing or engineering |
| 16:43.20 | fewyn | too much invested in them |
| 16:43.25 | aestil | well, with the debuff it won't matter. |
| 16:43.29 | aestil | but heroism is still OP |
| 16:43.41 | Saryai | I'm dropping tailoring for inscription, keeping enchanting, on my drood |
| 16:43.43 | aestil | if they don't change it, all the other raid makeup changes won't mean much. |
| 16:43.54 | aestil | just that we still need 5 shaman to raid. |
| 16:43.54 | KriLL3 | I love engineering, too bad it's only for lolz at this point |
| 16:44.01 | fewyn | my goggles |
| 16:44.02 | Saryai | Yeah... |
| 16:44.12 | fewyn | we're farming sunwell trash in hopes we get some patterns |
| 16:44.25 | fewyn | i'd kill for my quad deathblow goggles |
| 16:44.31 | Saryai | Got both sets of goggles for my warrior, stopped using the dps ones after I swiped my S3 helm. =\ |
| 16:44.44 | fewyn | yea i don't arena much |
| 16:44.56 | fewyn | i do pity games sometimes |
| 16:45.00 | Saryai | s3's sidegrade, but a hell of a lot better on stam. |
| 16:45.10 | KriLL3 | S2 druid gear > goggles |
| 16:45.21 | Carancu | Saryai, I think you can do a /script UNIT_YOU_SOURCE = "You" to change all the "your"s in your combatlog to You |
| 16:45.48 | fewyn | for feral KriLL3? you really think so? |
| 16:45.54 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 16:46.10 | Saryai | Trying now Carancu |
| 16:46.11 | fewyn | i haven't really thought of replacing my deathblow goggles period |
| 16:46.16 | fewyn | let me pull up rawr |
| 16:46.20 | fewyn | and look at the numbers |
| 16:46.38 | fewyn | i have 2 sets of goggles my tank ones and dps ones |
| 16:46.57 | Saryai | No dice |
| 16:47.15 | fewyn | s3 and s4 helms are better KriLL3 |
| 16:47.20 | fewyn | not s2 |
| 16:47.32 | fewyn | for kitty |
| 16:48.47 | KriLL3 | rawr only throws errors for me :( |
| 16:48.54 | fewyn | same for bear |
| 16:48.59 | fewyn | I <3 rawr |
| 16:49.19 | fewyn | i've been arguing with people about pillar of ferocity lately |
| 16:49.54 | fewyn | about how i it's better than wildfury |
| 16:50.11 | fewyn | "BUT IT HAZ DODGE OMGZ!" |
| 16:50.57 | KriLL3 | I wouldn't know, I got a S2 mace |
| 16:51.01 | Saryai | agi > dodge 100% of the time. |
| 16:51.08 | Leptus | pillar is absolutely superior thatn wildfury |
| 16:51.18 | fewyn | if i could become uncrushable it might be worth it |
| 16:51.20 | fewyn | but unlikely! |
| 16:51.32 | fewyn | i lost out on the pillar on friday night |
| 16:51.38 | fewyn | to a druid who only comes once every 3 weeks |
| 16:51.43 | KriLL3 | oh you didn't count the resilience on S2 helm when you compared it to goggles, explains it |
| 16:51.44 | fewyn | i'm miffed about that |
| 16:51.58 | fewyn | yea KriLL3 resilience doesn't bother me really |
| 16:51.59 | Carancu | it have only dropped once for us, and no feral was in the raid that run, so a mage took it for tanking. |
| 16:52.11 | KriLL3 | fewyn: I only pvp, it matters to me |
| 16:52.12 | Saryai | Is it sad that I want a staff of the forest lord with savagery for a boomkin mana stick? >.> |
| 16:52.13 | fewyn | i'm really miffed about it |
| 16:52.28 | fewyn | i hate the fudging earthwarden |
| 16:52.30 | fewyn | with a passion |
| 16:52.34 | Leptus | lol, our mage often get tanking gears too |
| 16:53.02 | KriLL3 | eathwarded is nice and all but I agree it seems blizz made it the only tanking weapon in the game... |
| 16:53.16 | Carancu | and it is amusing to see the whispers he get from ferals that don't run hyjal ^^ |
| 16:53.54 | fewyn | for tanking you have 3 choices, earthwarden, wildfury and pillar |
| 16:54.11 | fewyn | for dps you have stranglestaff and uh... |
| 16:54.12 | Carancu | out of only earthwarden is really something you can count on. |
| 16:54.16 | fewyn | staff from badges |
| 16:54.21 | fewyn | and the staff in sunwell |
| 16:54.21 | Leptus | generally I don't think Arena gears will be fine for raiding, at least i myself never wear them in raiding |
| 16:54.42 | fewyn | i wore season 1 shoulders when i first started |
| 16:54.44 | fewyn | that was it |
| 16:54.54 | Saryai | Depends on the raiding situation. |
| 16:55.02 | Saryai | I OT in my warrior's pvp set |
| 16:55.13 | Leptus | yeah, when first started, S1 is better than pre-Kara gears |
| 16:55.16 | nevcairiel | I've never seen anyone use earthwarden when they had a choice |
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| 16:55.23 | nevcairiel | wildfurry or pillar are much better |
| 16:55.28 | Saryai | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:55.35 | fewyn | i would never use earthwarden if i had wildfury |
| 16:55.49 | fewyn | wildfury is better than earthwarden |
| 16:55.54 | fewyn | and pillar is better than wildfury |
| 16:55.56 | Leptus | but as a rogue, I can do much more dps with Kara gears than full-S2's that time |
| 16:55.58 | nevcairiel | also you forgot ZA staff in your dps listing |
| 16:56.07 | fewyn | there's a dps staff in ZA? |
| 16:56.15 | fewyn | shows you how much i've done that instance! |
| 16:56.24 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33465 |
| 16:56.41 | fewyn | i've done a couple bear runs and that's about it |
| 16:56.41 | nevcairiel | badge staff is better, though |
| 16:56.43 | KriLL3 | I don't think I've ever seen that item |
| 16:56.51 | Leptus | don't like gears in ZA, i feel them are better for PVP rather than PVE |
| 16:57.14 | Carancu | I did ZA three times, after that I was too bored of the place to run it again. |
| 16:57.53 | CIA-47 | 03darkimakuni * r80901 10Chatter/ (. Modules/ChatFont.lua): |
| 16:57.53 | CIA-47 | Chatter_ChatFont: |
| 16:57.53 | CIA-47 | - Reapply fonts when a new font is registered with SharedMedia-3.0. The font we use may be registered after we load. |
| 17:00.01 | CIA-47 | 03darkimakuni * r80902 10AddonLoader/ (. AddonLoader.lua Overrides.lua locale/enUS.lua): |
| 17:00.01 | CIA-47 | AddonLoader: |
| 17:00.01 | CIA-47 | - Remove trailing whitespace from files and externals list. Perhaps the externals will be included in the zip now... *hopes* |
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| 17:00.17 | Saryai | still trying to find a way to change that damn "You"/"Your" crap. =\ |
| 17:01.46 | fewyn | i am so glad i figured out how to get waypoint arrows in tomtom to work on beta |
| 17:01.58 | fewyn | makes my life so much easier |
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| 17:02.21 | Saryai | I take it that a string.gsub wouldn't fix this? >.> |
| 17:03.01 | Carancu | UNIT_YOU_SOURCE = "Your"; That's from the locale of the Blizzard_CombatLog.lua |
| 17:06.21 | Carancu | so if you set that one to "You", it should work, remeber to actually reselect the filter so it updates. |
| 17:07.04 | KriLL3 | can you edit files in the blizzard "addons" without getting perm-banned or the changes vanishing on the next patch? |
| 17:07.47 | cladhaire | fewyn: what was needed other than "install TomTom" |
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| 17:12.08 | Saryai | Doesn't seem to be working. >.< |
| 17:12.55 | Saryai | I've got it set in NotSimpleCombatLog.lua and also /scripted in game, neither wants to make my life easier. =\ |
| 17:13.02 | fewyn | cladhaire: i had to get astrolabe off the svn |
| 17:13.04 | fewyn | for wotlk |
| 17:13.09 | fewyn | for the arrow to work |
| 17:13.15 | cladhaire | if you're talking for EP and Northrend.. then yes |
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| 17:13.20 | fewyn | yea |
| 17:13.20 | cladhaire | otherwise it worked perfectly in wotlk |
| 17:13.28 | fewyn | that's where i wanted it to work! |
| 17:13.29 | cladhaire | okay, just needed to clarify |
| 17:13.32 | fewyn | =p |
| 17:14.06 | fewyn | works perfectly fine now that i have the svn copy of astrolabe and I <3 it |
| 17:14.14 | fewyn | mainly because it's the only mapnote addon i can find |
| 17:14.36 | KriLL3 | fewyn: linkage? |
| 17:15.11 | fewyn | http://svn.esamynn.org/astrolabe/branches/wotlk_data_temp/ |
| 17:15.36 | KriLL3 | where do I put said files? |
| 17:15.56 | fewyn | in the lib folder for tomtom |
| 17:16.05 | fewyn | under astrolabe |
| 17:16.12 | KriLL3 | kk |
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| 17:21.02 | [SW]Dodge | wtb wotlk beta key ~~ |
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| 17:36.46 | dodga | Me too :> |
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| 18:08.39 | njal | Gagorian: you happen to miraculously be around now? |
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| 18:20.33 | thul | what is up with moonkins doing much dps? :-P |
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| 18:48.01 | Gnarfoz | anyone know if AfterCast currently works? I want to start a local timerbar after I cast Distract (which is a AE targetting cursor style spell) |
| 18:52.57 | Gnarfoz | or can I do the same with a macro :X |
| 19:03.09 | qwesto | Gnarfoz, maybe /in works? |
| 19:03.38 | Gnarfoz | what's that supposed to be |
| 19:03.49 | Gnarfoz | also, no, that doesn't server the intended purpose |
| 19:03.50 | qwesto | for example /in 5 /y Hello! |
| 19:04.08 | qwesto | no, it doesn't, my brain hurts >< |
| 19:04.10 | Gnarfoz | that's some addon providing /in for you. |
| 19:04.22 | qwesto | nope, /in is default |
| 19:04.32 | qwesto | it doesn't work for protected stuff though |
| 19:04.42 | KriLL3 | LK is slated for a holiday release correct? |
| 19:04.52 | Pneumatus | 4th quarter |
| 19:05.00 | KriLL3 | that's holiday in my book |
| 19:05.11 | Pneumatus | well, october isnt holiday |
| 19:05.33 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.35 | KriLL3 | it is if you got $ signs in your eyes |
| 19:05.39 | Gnarfoz | I'm quite certain it isn't o_O |
| 19:05.49 | Pneumatus | yeh, /in is default |
| 19:05.52 | aestil | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkspear&n=Vaunscatch |
| 19:05.54 | aestil | ouch. |
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| 19:06.42 | thul | the first time the abacus of violent odds dropped for me, a warlock needed and won |
| 19:06.45 | thul | today a prot-pala did |
| 19:06.47 | thul | sad life :-( |
| 19:08.41 | Xinhuan | http://www.sgnick.com/singapore-news/2-teenagers-boys-commit-suicide-yesterday-suspected-because-of-world-of-warcraft |
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| 19:17.49 | Pkekyo| | ~ugt |
| 19:17.49 | purl | it has been said that ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
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| 19:27.57 | KriLL3 | is there a way to run 2x WAU one for LK and one for TBC? |
| 19:28.14 | nevcairiel | Most addons for LK are not in WAU anyway |
| 19:28.19 | nevcairiel | because they are in branches |
| 19:28.36 | KriLL3 | I don't have any idea how to get stuff in branches anyway |
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| 19:28.48 | Fisker- | ~uft |
| 19:28.49 | purl | Universal Fisker Time, it's whatever time he says, anyone else will be shot on sight, even if it's the same time as Fisker's time. |
| 19:29.04 | fewyn | xD |
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| 19:29.26 | Fisker- | WoW > Bad Parenting Xinhuan |
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| 19:33.45 | KriLL3 | wowwiki is having some guru mediation, how nice |
| 19:33.57 | fewyn | ? |
| 19:34.03 | KriLL3 | it's broken |
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| 19:39.43 | p3lim|afk | Is there some site that contains all the Interface Art? |
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| 19:48.52 | Zyndrome | p3lim|afk , the Interface Addon Kit extracts all the interface art afaik |
| 19:49.30 | p3lim|afk | yeah but in blp files |
| 19:49.35 | p3lim|afk | some that I cant convert |
| 19:49.44 | Zyndrome | noticed that too |
| 19:49.56 | Zyndrome | shows up all garbled in XnView |
| 19:50.21 | Xinhuan | i haven't found a blp i can't convert yet ;p |
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| 19:56.56 | Zyndrome | so funny to listen to my french guild-officer on vent ... take any sentence, and remove the first letter from each word .. that's his english |
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| 20:19.04 | CIA-47 | engravings: 03Tekkub 07master * r66c742f 10/ (Data/ItemType.lua Engravings.toc): Add item type/subtype module - http://is.gd/1Sq1 |
| 20:19.06 | CIA-47 | engravings: 03Tekkub 07master * ree2b634 10/ (Data/DropLocations.lua Data/DropNPCs.lua): Updated drop info - http://is.gd/1Sq2 |
| 20:19.09 | CIA-47 | engravings: 03Tekkub 07master * r7d2f356 10/ Data/PvPCosts.lua : Update PvP costs - http://is.gd/1Sq3 |
| 20:19.11 | CIA-47 | engravings: 03Tekkub 07master * rc4742a7 10/ Data/ItemSetNames.lua : Add S4 items - http://is.gd/1Sq4 |
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| 20:35.08 | Jagannath | Anyone have CPU usage...issues...with WoWAceUpdater? |
| 20:35.57 | Gnarfoz | elaborate? |
| 20:36.09 | Gnarfoz | which UNIT_SPELLCAST_ event fires reliably on instants? |
| 20:36.37 | Jagannath | I get a solid 95%-100% CPU usage when I open it up, according to my task manager. :o |
| 20:37.25 | Jagannath | Climbs to about 65k memory usage. Just sitting there too. |
| 20:37.52 | Jagannath | Version, 1.9.46.747 |
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| 20:41.50 | Gagorian | njal: pong |
| 20:42.00 | njal | ah :) |
| 20:42.02 | fewyn | watches a blizzard tech play with northrend like it's a yo-yo |
| 20:42.07 | njal | you're the author of drdamage, right? |
| 20:42.25 | Gagorian | yes |
| 20:43.30 | njal | ok, I'm wondering.. is it possible to hook into your addon somehow? as in get access to stuff like "how much avg. dmg does spell/ability X do?" |
| 20:44.36 | Gagorian | yes |
| 20:44.54 | njal | ok, I've been glancing over the code, but it must have eluded my eyes |
| 20:45.00 | njal | where should I be looking? |
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| 20:45.11 | Adirelle | hello there |
| 20:45.25 | Arrowmaster | look for functions, theres one to query that info if i remember correctly |
| 20:45.38 | Gagorian | well DrDamage:CasterCalc( "Shadow Bolt", "Rank 4", true ) |
| 20:46.01 | Gagorian | or DrDamage:MeleeCalc( "Stormstrike", "Rank 1", true ) |
| 20:46.09 | Adirelle | is there an official, european beta forum ? |
| 20:46.47 | Gagorian | true means you'll get the tooltip info as well |
| 20:47.30 | Gagorian | it will return value, table |
| 20:47.40 | Gagorian | value is the current display mode value for the actionbar |
| 20:47.46 | Gagorian | and table is a table with everything |
| 20:47.57 | Gagorian | You can grab what you need from there |
| 20:49.21 | njal | aha |
| 20:49.57 | njal | so I have to know if the char is a caster or a melee :( |
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| 20:51.03 | Fisker- | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:51.06 | Adirelle | ahah, Shirik is a number |
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| 20:54.05 | Shirik | ~kill Adirelle |
| 20:54.06 | purl | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoelectron gun at Adirelle |
| 20:54.16 | Adirelle | dodges. |
| 20:54.25 | Shirik | you can't dodge ranged attacks |
| 20:54.30 | Adirelle | I can |
| 20:54.34 | Shirik | hax? |
| 20:54.36 | Adirelle | my second name is Neo |
| 20:54.41 | Shirik | reported |
| 20:54.51 | Adirelle | (WTH means "hax" ?) |
| 20:54.59 | njal | Gagorian: I guess there is some logic in DrDamage already to decide if a spell is a melee or a caster spell? |
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| 20:58.17 | Gagorian | njal: Yes |
| 20:58.35 | Gagorian | Well if you're a caster it's caster |
| 21:00.47 | Gagorian | So warlock, mage, priest.. then there's warrior, rogue, hunter who have always melee.. and hybrids druid, shaman, paladin |
| 21:01.14 | Gagorian | hybrids you can check with DrDamage.spellInfo["Spell name"][0].Melee |
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| 21:02.02 | Gagorian | if it's true then MeleeCalc, otherwise CasterCalc |
| 21:03.01 | njal | k :) |
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| 21:04.12 | njal | next question: will you be making a drdamage version for wotlk? if I've understood it correctly it doesnt work for wotlk atm |
| 21:04.29 | Gagorian | Even if it did work, everything would be wrong |
| 21:04.56 | Gagorian | I haven't decided yet, but I'd only start once the talents and spells are final |
| 21:05.11 | Gagorian | No point doing it now when they change every build |
| 21:05.15 | njal | yeah, I see the hardcoded stuff |
| 21:05.46 | njal | I guess I'll wait with integrating with drdamage for now then, as I'm mainly concerned with getting stuff right for wotlk |
| 21:06.07 | Gagorian | Well, I doubt I'll change the basics |
| 21:06.13 | Gagorian | The same functions etc will exist |
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| 21:07.26 | njal | hopefully you'll add something along the lines of "DrDamage:Calc(spellname, rank, ...)" for lazy ppl like me :P |
| 21:09.00 | Gagorian | well I could |
| 21:09.02 | njal | maybe even split it up into LibDrDamage and DrDamage, so its possible to just include it as a library |
| 21:09.21 | Ellipsis | no. |
| 21:09.32 | Ellipsis | if your addon has drdamage support it should be *optional* support |
| 21:10.22 | njal | hrmph |
| 21:10.24 | njal | you have a point :( |
| 21:12.21 | njal | still, I'd require it for decently guesstimating the dmg done for abilities |
| 21:12.28 | njal | since DrDamage seems to be doing an awesome job of that |
| 21:13.08 | Adirelle | is coldarra up atm ? |
| 21:15.40 | Xinhuan | should probably rewrite using ace3 |
| 21:15.41 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 21:16.19 | Ellipsis | njal: what are you guesstimating for? |
| 21:16.51 | CIA-47 | 03gagorian * r80904 10DrDamage/ (Caster.lua DrDamage.lua): |
| 21:16.51 | CIA-47 | DrDamage: |
| 21:16.51 | CIA-47 | - Added DrDamage:Calc(name, rank, tooltip, modify) for easier 3rd party addon support |
| 21:16.51 | CIA-47 | - Example: DrDamage:Calc("Shadow Bolt", "Rank 5", true) will return value, table. Where value is AB text and table contains all the tooltip info |
| 21:17.06 | Gagorian | njal: ^ |
| 21:17.18 | njal | I'd like to guesstimate rage generation for warriors / druids in bear for my addon |
| 21:17.20 | Xinhuan | u should probably mention if that table is reusable/throwawable |
| 21:17.29 | njal | Gagorian: awesome :) |
| 21:17.44 | Ellipsis | njal: well if your addon doesn't serve a purpose without drdamage, perhaps you should set that as a hard dependency :) |
| 21:18.01 | Gagorian | Well, that particular table is cleared in the next calc |
| 21:19.26 | Adirelle | Ace2 seems to mess up with the addons name in wotlk |
| 21:19.34 | njal | my addon makes sense without being able to estimate rage generation, but only for non-rage users, and would be able to do some additional niceties (estimating time to death somewhat for the rest of the classes) |
| 21:19.59 | JerleMinara | yeah Adirelle |
| 21:20.06 | fewyn | i've loving seeing my 6-7k ferocious bite crits |
| 21:20.10 | Gagorian | Xinhuan: Well, Ace3 could be nice yes! |
| 21:20.32 | Ellipsis | njal: "able to do some additional niceties" sounds like optional support to me :P |
| 21:20.39 | dieck | njal: time to death? sounds more like crystal ball magic than estimated guesses ;) |
| 21:20.41 | Gagorian | But then I lose dewdrop and fubarplugin |
| 21:21.02 | Gagorian | I haven't researched what the options are at the moment |
| 21:21.03 | Xinhuan | i don't think they are big losses |
| 21:21.05 | njal | yeah, so it would be optional for all classes except warriors, basically |
| 21:21.09 | Gagorian | But I personally like dewdrop for configuring |
| 21:21.12 | Xinhuan | because you gain acegui |
| 21:21.17 | njal | dieck: crystal ball magick is my speciality nowadays |
| 21:21.26 | Gagorian | I like to set debuffs etc quickly through the options |
| 21:21.32 | Ellipsis | and most people are dropping fubarplugin for ldb anyway |
| 21:21.42 | Xinhuan | still can use the default ui's dropdown menu |
| 21:21.48 | Xinhuan | its relatively easy to use |
| 21:21.54 | Gagorian | Also during fights etc? |
| 21:21.59 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 21:22.07 | Xinhuan | the default ui splits them into 2 kinds - secure and nonsecure |
| 21:22.12 | Xinhuan | so you can't taint |
| 21:22.33 | Xinhuan | just that none of the default ui menus can do fancy stuff like editboxes |
| 21:22.40 | Xinhuan | which dewdrop can |
| 21:22.52 | Gagorian | mm |
| 21:23.24 | Gagorian | plus it's a lot of work, I have pretty huge options tables |
| 21:23.38 | Xinhuan | that's why it should be rewritten from scratch |
| 21:23.47 | Xinhuan | since you have to rewrite the whole thing for new talents/skills anyway |
| 21:24.00 | Xinhuan | not only that, u have to reparse all the gear for new combined ratings |
| 21:24.23 | Xinhuan | a ret pally for eg, would now use the same melee hit and spell hit - since its the same stat now |
| 21:24.28 | Gagorian | I don't scan any gear though |
| 21:24.34 | Gagorian | API all the way |
| 21:24.41 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 21:24.45 | Xinhuan | i thought you scanned gear |
| 21:24.52 | Gagorian | Nah inefficient ;( |
| 21:25.05 | Gagorian | s/;(/;)/ |
| 21:25.05 | Ellipsis | don't you take into account set bonuses etc.? |
| 21:25.08 | Gagorian | Yeah |
| 21:25.18 | Gagorian | ItemIsEquipped(itemid) |
| 21:25.35 | Gagorian | I have tables for all set itemIDs |
| 21:25.45 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 21:25.55 | Gagorian | The only thing I need to scan is if meta gem is active or not |
| 21:26.20 | Xinhuan | its probably still preferable to rewrite the whole thing using all the stuff you've learnt since ;p |
| 21:26.20 | Gagorian | So instead of old two different API for hit |
| 21:26.24 | Gagorian | I just use one |
| 21:26.59 | Gagorian | ugh :D |
| 21:27.12 | Xinhuan | oh and for some reason, the default for IPopBar in drdamage is not to display for default bars? |
| 21:27.23 | Gagorian | hmmm |
| 21:27.37 | Xinhuan | it should be to display, since ipopbar adds to default bars, not replace them |
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| 21:28.16 | Gagorian | Xinhuan: yeah probably |
| 21:29.16 | Gagorian | Although then the user loses the possibility of turning it off |
| 21:29.25 | Gagorian | If they only want it on ipopbar |
| 21:29.29 | Gagorian | The way it currently works |
| 21:29.46 | Gagorian | But, well, that's a bit strange too |
| 21:30.05 | Xinhuan | why would a user want it to display on his his buttons and not the other half? |
| 21:30.11 | Xinhuan | by default that is |
| 21:30.35 | Zhinjio | Afternoon, Xinhuan |
| 21:30.39 | Xinhuan | hi |
| 21:30.48 | Gagorian | Well IPopBar is a bit of an exception yes |
| 21:30.53 | Gagorian | All the other ones are replacements |
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| 21:32.17 | CIA-47 | 03gagorian * r80905 10DrDamage/DrDamage.lua: |
| 21:32.17 | CIA-47 | DrDamage: |
| 21:32.17 | CIA-47 | - AB text on Blizzard actionbars is now enabled by default combined with IPopBar |
| 21:32.59 | Gagorian | Xinhuan: Anything else? :p |
| 21:33.07 | Xinhuan | not really |
| 21:33.17 | Xinhuan | since i don't really use drdamage more than once in a blue moon ;p |
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| 21:34.26 | Gagorian | Well basic wotlk conversion should be easy |
| 21:34.38 | Gagorian | Just a few new API calls instead of the old ones |
| 21:34.54 | Gagorian | And some changes to the aura functions |
| 21:35.11 | Gagorian | But changes to spells, talents, new coefficients etc |
| 21:35.15 | Gagorian | That's painful |
| 21:35.34 | Xinhuan | i don't even think its relevant anymore |
| 21:35.38 | Xinhuan | given the downranking changes |
| 21:35.43 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r80906 10Yatba/ (Yatba.lua embeds.xml libs/): |
| 21:35.44 | CIA-47 | Yatba: |
| 21:35.44 | CIA-47 | - fixed externals and embeds.xml, |
| 21:35.44 | CIA-47 | - WotLK-compatible. |
| 21:35.53 | Xinhuan | no one would give a flying fuck about downranked spells, unless you are at a low lvl ;p |
| 21:36.22 | Gagorian | Well the highest ranks still need calculation, and it needs to work while leveling up -_- |
| 21:37.47 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: <3 |
| 21:37.59 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: there's something weird though |
| 21:38.07 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 21:38.08 | Ellipsis | oh? |
| 21:38.11 | Ellipsis | hugs Zhinjio |
| 21:38.13 | Adirelle | it catchs *all* buffs and debuffs, not only the ones you can cast |
| 21:38.26 | Ellipsis | yeah, wotlk exposes all durations |
| 21:38.34 | Adirelle | *gah* |
| 21:38.39 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 21:38.49 | Xinhuan | well at least |
| 21:38.56 | Adirelle | that gets very spammy |
| 21:38.57 | Xinhuan | addons like Scorchio won't be needed anymore |
| 21:38.57 | Gagorian | They must have a self cast variable? |
| 21:39.22 | Adirelle | didn't found one |
| 21:39.39 | Xinhuan | does it really matter who casts it? |
| 21:39.52 | Ellipsis | I don't want to see every warlock's dots on my dot timer |
| 21:39.56 | Ellipsis | since I can only refresh mine |
| 21:40.03 | Xinhuan | hmm ok, good point |
| 21:40.27 | Gagorian | Also, I'd like to know if the target has my HoTs or someone elses |
| 21:40.27 | Gagorian | etc |
| 21:40.50 | Gagorian | It's easy if they return a value only when self cast :C |
| 21:40.57 | dodga | I'd also like to know when my VT, SW:P or VE expires so I can reapply them without much downtime |
| 21:40.57 | Ellipsis | but yeah, it seems there's no easy way to determine which one is yours now |
| 21:41.02 | Adirelle | that was handy |
| 21:41.04 | Gagorian | Also, it's essential for some of my calculations |
| 21:41.17 | Gagorian | Like rogues envenom or whatever |
| 21:41.31 | Adirelle | I killed a simple mob with two paladings, I've got a dozen debuff on the target |
| 21:42.23 | Adirelle | moreover, it also track any auras from outsiders now... |
| 21:42.25 | Adirelle | very annoying |
| 21:42.28 | KriLL3 | how do I stop the combat log showing trade skill stuff? :( |
| 21:42.39 | Xinhuan | right click on the combatlog tab |
| 21:42.41 | Xinhuan | choose SETTINGS |
| 21:42.43 | Xinhuan | and look around inside |
| 21:44.56 | Adirelle | I'm wondering if I could filter with "GetSpellname(auraName") |
| 21:45.05 | Adirelle | it returns nil when the spell is not in your spellbook |
| 21:45.21 | Pneumatus | just because you have it in your spellbook doesnt mean its yours though |
| 21:45.24 | Xinhuan | it'll only filter by class |
| 21:45.36 | Adirelle | right... |
| 21:45.39 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: I have, can't find anything related to tradeskills in there |
| 21:45.45 | Ellipsis | also the name of the spell doesn't necessarily match the name of the debuff |
| 21:45.55 | Ellipsis | e.g. things like procs |
| 21:45.59 | Xinhuan | KriLL3, on the left side |
| 21:46.15 | Xinhuan | choose OTHER |
| 21:46.15 | Adirelle | only rare procs don't match |
| 21:46.21 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 21:46.21 | Xinhuan | and turn off tradeskills |
| 21:46.28 | Adirelle | but the point is still valid |
| 21:46.46 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: how do you figure that? weapon procs, trinket procs, passive debuff abilities like shadow embrace... |
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| 21:47.05 | Ellipsis | not to mention anything selecting by name will confuse ISB with shadow weaving (they're both debuffs named 'shadow vulnerability') |
| 21:47.35 | Xinhuan | its just a crude method |
| 21:47.46 | Xinhuan | to filter out 80% of the unwanted stuff |
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| 21:47.51 | Adirelle | fix it : "spell/talent procs match most of the time" |
| 21:47.54 | Pneumatus | is there a blue post to say that exposing all timers is intended... it could just be a bug |
| 21:47.58 | Xinhuan | i.e stuff you KNOW isn't cast by you ;p |
| 21:48.03 | Xinhuan | since its not your class |
| 21:48.08 | Ellipsis | yeah, but there's a lot more you don't know |
| 21:48.09 | Xinhuan | but its not foolproof |
| 21:48.13 | Adirelle | to make a decent filter I'll have to check spellcasts :/ |
| 21:48.16 | Ellipsis | multiple people of the same class makes it fail :P |
| 21:48.28 | Xinhuan | its just a quickhack filter workaround ;p |
| 21:48.29 | Ellipsis | imo blizz needs to add a castByMe return |
| 21:48.57 | Adirelle | actually... I could try the "raid" filter, but that would work only for buffs |
| 21:49.06 | Pneumatus | there has been a bug in beta where if someone casts a buff on you that you can cast yourself the timer didnt show up... they could have attempted to fix it but inadvertantly exposed ALL buff times |
| 21:49.18 | Adirelle | and I'm not sure it will filter things cast by others |
| 21:49.34 | Xinhuan | and i wouldn't try to fix it until open beta |
| 21:50.46 | Xinhuan | blizz HAS exposed a lot of things though |
| 21:50.54 | Adirelle | WOOT |
| 21:50.55 | Xinhuan | eg: threat values, hp values |
| 21:50.57 | Adirelle | I thing I got it |
| 21:51.03 | Xinhuan | and now buff durations |
| 21:51.10 | Adirelle | SPELL_AURA_APPLIED Adirelle Hyène 27046 Guérison du familier 8 BUFF |
| 21:51.21 | Adirelle | (dropped the GUID/flags part) |
| 21:51.28 | Ellipsis | I'm not surprised that they made that change, just think they forgot to give us a mechanic for helping us determine what the lack of duration did before |
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| 21:51.37 | Adirelle | but Adirelle is the source name and Hyène the destination name |
| 21:51.49 | Xinhuan | so...? that relies on combat log |
| 21:51.55 | Adirelle | yep |
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| 21:51.59 | Xinhuan | and that means parsing it |
| 21:52.03 | Xinhuan | a big overhead |
| 21:52.06 | Adirelle | that does alredy |
| 21:52.09 | Adirelle | already |
| 21:52.13 | Adirelle | to catch the GUID part |
| 21:52.20 | Ellipsis | ...? |
| 21:52.26 | Xinhuan | compared to just quering a buff to see if its casted by u |
| 21:52.34 | Ellipsis | why would you be needing to parse the combat log |
| 21:52.56 | Xinhuan | also i'm not entirely sure how debuffs from different people work |
| 21:53.02 | Xinhuan | for eg, fireball dot from 2 mages |
| 21:53.08 | Adirelle | it's quite useless to detect when a buff starts |
| 21:53.13 | Ellipsis | well |
| 21:53.19 | Ellipsis | I've seen it in action with default UI on beta |
| 21:53.22 | Ellipsis | partied with another lock |
| 21:53.23 | Adirelle | but it is very efficient to detect when it is removed |
| 21:53.40 | Ellipsis | their debuffs had timers just like mine, but mine had larger icons to differentiate them |
| 21:53.43 | Adirelle | even if anyone isn't targetting the unit anymore |
| 21:53.47 | Ellipsis | maybe you should look at framexml to see how they do that? |
| 21:53.56 | Adirelle | right |
| 21:54.53 | Adirelle | (and er... well, there is now real "combat log parsing" now) |
| 21:55.20 | Ellipsis | but you shouldn't need it, except if you're tracking non-target/non-focus units |
| 21:55.54 | Adirelle | I do, that the focus of the addon... |
| 21:57.07 | NivFreak | not too bad |
| 21:57.11 | Xinhuan | i bet they added a function nobody knows about ;p |
| 21:57.13 | NivFreak | I got 2 toons to lvl 42 in 15 hours played |
| 21:57.25 | Ellipsis | which we could find out in framexml if we weren't so lazy :P |
| 21:57.28 | NivFreak | not quite record breaking, but not too bad for me |
| 21:57.34 | Xinhuan | and i need 23 days to reach 600d /played |
| 21:57.39 | Pneumatus | if theres any new functions im sure wowcompares would have picked up on it |
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| 22:01.57 | Adirelle | nothing in framexml |
| 22:03.39 | JerleMinara | +TRANSFER_ABORT_UNIQUE_MESSAGE1 = "Until you've escaped The Lich King's grasp, you cannot leave this place!"; |
| 22:03.49 | JerleMinara | can't get out of the DK starting zone anymore :< |
| 22:03.59 | Pneumatus | completed all the quests? |
| 22:05.15 | CIA-47 | 03StingerSoft * r80908 10RatingBuster/RatingBuster-Locale-ruRU.lua: RatingBuster: update/fix ruRU |
| 22:06.55 | Adirelle | wasn't COMBATLOG_FILTER_MINE defined in the Blizzard_CombatLog addon ? |
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| 22:11.40 | fewyn | ding 75 |
| 22:13.39 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r80909 10Yatba/Yatba.lua: |
| 22:13.39 | CIA-47 | Yatba: |
| 22:13.39 | CIA-47 | - WotKL: should only show the auras *you* apply now. |
| 22:14.14 | Adirelle | damn it, it failed |
| 22:14.47 | Adirelle | oh wait, I forgot to /rl ^^ |
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| 22:15.31 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: they added an extra return |
| 22:15.39 | Adirelle | oh ? |
| 22:15.48 | Ellipsis | 8th return is 1 if cast by you, nil if cast by someone else |
| 22:16.38 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: according to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1#7, 8th return value is "untilCanceled" |
| 22:16.53 | dodga | Well.. lies! :o |
| 22:16.59 | dodga | Don't trust the blue! |
| 22:17.12 | Adirelle | I'll check it now |
| 22:17.16 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: well, unless you think my curses now last "until cancelled" :P |
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| 22:17.50 | Ellipsis | I'm checking it with several different debuffs now, all of them have durations |
| 22:18.04 | Ellipsis | anything I cast has an 8th return of 1, anything cast by other people has no 8th return |
| 22:19.15 | Esine | http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/lich-king-beta-author-key-giveaway/ <- about this, is it a lottery type contest with only one winner or do all proper entries get a beta key? |
| 22:21.39 | Fisker- | Ellipsis >:3 |
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| 22:22.12 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: furthermore, untimed buffs don't have an 8th return if I didn't cast them |
| 22:22.21 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: :3> |
| 22:22.23 | Fisker- | NO |
| 22:22.27 | Fisker- | RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 22:22.29 | Fisker- | I WANT LEVEL 80 |
| 22:22.30 | Zynderps | and |
| 22:22.31 | Zynderps | so |
| 22:22.39 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_082408_152218.jpg |
| 22:22.45 | Zynderps | Coldarra has 5/5 Improved Lagspikes and 2/2 Frequent Crashes |
| 22:22.51 | Adirelle | argh, that filters out pet's debuff |
| 22:23.02 | Fisker- | indeed Zynderps |
| 22:23.10 | Fisker- | it's lagspecced and anti-servertechs specced |
| 22:23.39 | Fisker- | Community team is specced in avoiding the forums |
| 22:23.52 | Zyndrome | not spec |
| 22:23.54 | Zyndrome | it's a racial |
| 22:23.54 | Fisker- | but they also specced in letting Wryxian being a scapegoat |
| 22:23.58 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: well, it's a better start anyway :P |
| 22:24.02 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 22:24.09 | Fisker- | wryxian chose the wrong racials |
| 22:24.10 | Fisker- | :D |
| 22:25.02 | Silviu- | Antiarc lol :) |
| 22:25.07 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: dunno, I love knowing that my target is slowed down by my hyena :p |
| 22:25.09 | Fisker- | server isn't specced in retrieving character list |
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| 22:26.12 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: well you could add the ability to whitelist buffs/debuffs by spellid or name |
| 22:26.26 | Ellipsis | so it would always show those regardless of if they're cast by you |
| 22:26.40 | Ellipsis | (that has a lot of uses besides just pet abilities anyway :P) |
| 22:26.48 | Adirelle | yep |
| 22:27.11 | Adirelle | but that becomes very tidy, because I bet I'll have to provide some default lists per class |
| 22:29.25 | Adirelle | wait... didn't catch it the first time |
| 22:32.23 | Zyndrome | back in ... but for how long, no one knows |
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| 22:36.05 | KriLL3 | the latest patch must have been mostly arsenic, the servers are reeling |
| 22:37.50 | qwesto | Esine, all proper entries I believe it is, and the correct channel for that question is probably #curseforge ;P |
| 22:38.02 | Esine | hm yes, thanks :) |
| 22:39.04 | Esine | and AceGUI-3.0 related question.. I made my addon using an older version of AceGUI-3.0 and it doesn't work with the latest AceGUI at all. Well, what doesn't work is custom widgets |
| 22:39.06 | CIA-47 | 03adirelle * r80910 10Yatba/Yatba.lua: Yatba: WotLK: be smarter with aura filtering. |
| 22:39.23 | Esine | I changed my Acquire and Release into OnAcquire and OnRelease function names.. |
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| 22:39.45 | Esine | and now I'm seeing this thing AceGUI:GetNextWidgetNum() and self.num, are these required in all widgets? |
| 22:39.46 | Nargiddley | Esine, these are custom widgets that you wrote ? |
| 22:39.50 | Esine | yes |
| 22:39.55 | Nargiddley | Esine, those arent required |
| 22:40.01 | Esine | I get no error, but they aren't visible |
| 22:40.15 | Nargiddley | they are for getting a unique number for named frames |
| 22:40.16 | Esine | the stock widgets I'm using work correctly in the latest AceGUI |
| 22:41.19 | Esine | mind taking a look at this for me please? http://tohveli.net/ItemButton.lua |
| 22:41.34 | Nargiddley | sure |
| 22:41.47 | Adirelle | I find quite weird that the "past of frost" affects outsiders |
| 22:41.54 | Esine | I'm trying to compare the newer stock widgets vs my (old style?) widgets but I can't find anything different.. |
| 22:42.44 | Esine | oh no is the web server down again, wait a second |
| 22:43.17 | Esine | ok now it works |
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| 22:44.53 | Adirelle | damn, being on the beta doesn't prevent people to be dumbasses |
| 22:46.11 | dodga | i wants mah beat kye :\ |
| 22:47.17 | Nargiddley | Esine, try removing the OnSizeChanged handler from the frame, AceGUI sets one of those itself |
| 22:47.25 | Esine | oh |
| 22:47.28 | Nargiddley | it'll cal OnWidthSet for you |
| 22:47.38 | Esine | so this has been changed recently? |
| 22:47.41 | Esine | within a few months |
| 22:47.45 | Esine | well more like 6 months |
| 22:48.45 | Nargiddley | I don't think thats been changed |
| 22:49.14 | Adirelle | damn, that explosive shot is total ownage at level 70 |
| 22:49.25 | Nargiddley | hm, wait it has changed at some point |
| 22:49.32 | Nargiddley | it used to be just containers |
| 22:49.57 | Esine | hmh. I'm relying on OnSizeChanged event to handle positioning of my other widgets though.. I have this one "main" widget that uses my other custom widgets and I'm positioning the other widgets in that sizechange event |
| 22:50.10 | Esine | sorry for the redundancy :P |
| 22:50.21 | Nargiddley | the main widget is a container ? |
| 22:50.32 | Esine | well, it is a container but it's not marked to be a container |
| 22:50.49 | Esine | so I'm not telling AceGUI it is a container |
| 22:51.04 | Nargiddley | The way I'd do that is a custom layout and use it as a container properly |
| 22:51.06 | Esine | if there even is some flag or function or whatever in Ace to classify a widget as a container |
| 22:51.22 | Nargiddley | :RegisterAsWidget vs :RegisterAsContainer |
| 22:52.08 | Esine | well to be honest this has been in need of a rewrite.. |
| 22:52.20 | Nargiddley | which will add support for layouts, you need to have a frame .content which the layouts work with |
| 22:52.58 | Nargiddley | the layout is passed that frame and a list of children, and then does its thing |
| 22:53.07 | Nargiddley | its called whenever the container resized |
| 22:53.39 | Esine | anyway this problem emerged when I shared this addon with a friend of mine and he said he couldn't see some of the things in my main UI. The problem was he had Omen2 addon enabled which uses a newer version of Ace3 than my addon did.. |
| 22:54.15 | Esine | You think there's a way to do it the hackish way and make the two different AceGUI libraries coexist? my own older version and all other newer versions? |
| 22:54.39 | Esine | I'll rewrite this addon soon-ish so I can't bother fixing it the proper way |
| 22:54.49 | Nargiddley | not easily, 6 months ago the lib was still alpha I think |
| 22:55.01 | Esine | maybe I could simply change the name of my version of AceGUI-3.0.. to AceGUI-TOHVELI |
| 22:55.25 | Esine | actually with an underscore AceGUI_Tohveli but yeah |
| 22:55.30 | Esine | that should work |
| 22:57.31 | fewyn | Ferocious Bite: 3342 | Critical Ferocious Bite: 7439 |
| 22:57.37 | fewyn | savage roar is awesome |
| 22:58.12 | kappaccino` | i want to make a hunter now :[ |
| 22:58.18 | kappaccino` | then tame tyrantus in netherstorm |
| 22:58.23 | kappaccino` | rawr |
| 22:58.31 | fewyn | i love savage roar |
| 22:58.39 | fewyn | offically my new favourite ability of cats |
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| 23:02.44 | dodga | huntard crap? |
| 23:05.22 | Esine | hahaa! AceGUI is now called AceTohveli! phear the power of sed -i s/AceGUI/AceTohveli/g *.lua |
| 23:05.26 | Esine | how awesome hackish 8) |
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| 23:06.53 | Adirelle | fewyn: tendon rip is convenient for soloing |
| 23:07.09 | Adirelle | as you're going to pull the aggro out from your pet anyway... |
| 23:07.32 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/beta/WoWScrnShot_082408_160521.jpg |
| 23:07.34 | Antiarc | Poor warlock. |
| 23:07.35 | Adirelle | and the hyena seems to wait until the mob starts to move to use it |
| 23:08.07 | Pkekyo| | it sucks to have attention defic...OOH! LET'S GO RIDE BIKES! :D |
| 23:08.18 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 23:08.47 | Adirelle | fewyn: have you noticed that in defensive mood, your pet attacks the mob as soon as you get aggro ? |
| 23:10.08 | Zyndrome | fgdsfgds |
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| 23:15.47 | Odlaw | yea |
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| 23:21.42 | Zyndrome | fgdsfgds again |
| 23:22.58 | fewyn | Adirelle: I'm a druid? |
| 23:23.15 | fewyn | Adirelle: And I haven't really played my hunter yet but I did tame a devilsaur! |
| 23:26.22 | Adirelle | fewyn: hehe |
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| 23:41.55 | alster | heyas |
| 23:42.29 | alster | could anybody hint me to an editor or something with which i could edit a weapon color? |
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| 23:49.35 | Corgan | blinks |
| 23:49.49 | nocts | alster: That's going to be more than a simple editor. |
| 23:50.05 | nocts | You'll need to actuall extract the texture file, modify it, and repackage it into a new mpq. |
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| 23:51.31 | Killmore | need a good working unitframe for wotlk plz :( |
| 23:51.53 | thul | http://ulrikft.smugmug.com/photos/358253957_zFmGg-X2.jpg <- my image of the day |
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| 23:59.30 | Arrowmaster | alster: you wont find any help here for voilating the TOS |
