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| 00:23.54 | Groktar | wtb more netsplits plx |
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| 00:30.48 | Antiarc | I have a guy asking me for resources with which he can learn Lua for use in WAR. I don't know of any "Lua resources for nonprogrammers" that aren't WoW tutorials - anyone have suggestions? |
| 00:32.41 | smcn | http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory is where i got started with the basics of lua, you can also point him to http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 00:33.09 | Antiarc | Yeah, I checked both but those suck for non-programmers |
| 00:33.27 | Antiarc | Basically, I need a resource that teached programming while teaching Lua |
| 00:33.46 | Antiarc | Which I don't know any of. |
| 00:35.37 | smcn | heh, well, i can't help you there.. i don't even remember actively learning the basics of programming. lua is pretty much the first language i've really had a somewhat indepth knowledge of and i basically started from scratch :P |
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| 00:36.53 | smcn | although i guess i learned most of the basics from... BASIC :P |
| 00:37.09 | smcn | if then, while do, etc |
| 00:39.19 | Antiarc | Yeah, me to :P |
| 00:42.09 | Groktar | likes to make sure his code is always procedural with lots and lots of giant arrays |
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| 00:42.19 | Antiarc | Hm |
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| 00:42.31 | Antiarc | The WAR addon structure seems a bit more primitive than WoW's |
| 00:42.57 | Groktar | in what sense? wow has come a long way |
| 00:43.03 | CIA-47 | 03orionshock * r81055 10/branches/SickOfClickingDailies/ (. WotLK/): create branch folder |
| 00:43.15 | Antiarc | Oh, just looking at some of their event handler invocations |
| 00:43.33 | Antiarc | <OnUpdate> <CallFunction name="MyAddon.OnUpdate" /> </OnUpdate> |
| 00:43.34 | Antiarc | etc |
| 00:43.44 | Antiarc | Though I really dig how they have everything namespaced. |
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| 00:46.31 | Wobin | eeee |
| 00:46.31 | Wobin | it's all xml? |
| 00:46.53 | Antiarc | Yeah, their TOCs too |
| 00:47.00 | Antiarc | Well, not ALL XML |
| 00:47.08 | Antiarc | They have a structure similar to WoW |
| 00:47.11 | Wobin | alas |
| 00:47.20 | Wobin | I -hate- xml |
| 00:47.20 | Antiarc | Yeah, me too |
| 00:47.24 | Antiarc | Especially with things like YAML out there |
| 00:48.09 | Antiarc | http://www.thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 00:49.06 | nocts | Obelixprime: Linkin your screenie |
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| 00:50.28 | fewyn | excel is evil |
| 00:51.29 | VonhintenHOME` | WAR's addon structure is based on DAoC's original UI scheme from what I could see |
| 00:51.29 | VonhintenHOME` | it's a cross between DAoC and WoW's scheme's |
| 00:51.30 | VonhintenHOME` | I prefer the .mod style to .toc to be honest |
| 00:51.38 | NivFreak | is there really no way to properly disable oRA2's tank frames? |
| 00:53.49 | JerleMinara | set the # of tanks to 0 |
| 00:54.50 | VonhintenHOME` | Has anyone been able to get access to WAR's internal addon code? |
| 00:55.03 | JerleMinara | people who have are under NDA |
| 00:55.05 | fewyn | things look really weird in live compared to beta |
| 00:55.15 | VonhintenHOME` | I really wonder why Mythic decided to have Lua code littered with WString stuff |
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| 00:55.34 | VonhintenHOME` | instead of doing the translations behind the scenes |
| 00:55.41 | VonhintenHOME` | performance maybe? |
| 00:56.17 | Antiarc | Eh |
| 00:56.19 | Wobin | I thought the NDA was lifted, JerleMinara? |
| 00:56.26 | JerleMinara | was it? |
| 00:56.27 | Antiarc | If they wanted performance they wouldn't have namespaced everything |
| 00:56.37 | Antiarc | And wstrings everywhere increase complexity for the programmer |
| 00:56.40 | JerleMinara | nope! |
| 00:56.46 | smcn | nda was lifted, yes |
| 00:56.47 | VonhintenHOME` | Yes, it definitely does |
| 00:56.49 | JerleMinara | the UI/addon stuff is under NDA |
| 00:57.03 | JerleMinara | it's an NDA within an NDA |
| 00:57.42 | smcn | http://thewarwiki.com/wiki/WAR_API |
| 00:57.47 | Zyndrome | http://www.manapotions.com/raceazeroth.html |
| 00:57.52 | JerleMinara | that's a violation of the NDA |
| 00:58.19 | Dashkal | NDA lifted, people talking about it. News at 11 |
| 00:58.30 | smcn | interesting, you'd think they would have been sent a c&d since it's been up for a week :P |
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| 00:59.51 | VonhintenHOME` | they're just covering their asses, they probably don't mind |
| 00:59.57 | [Liquidor] | . |
| 00:59.59 | JerleMinara | can't much speak to that smcn, since i'm looking at the NDA for the UI mod group right now |
| 01:00.22 | CIA-47 | 03LordFarlander * r81056 10LibLordFarlander-2.0/ (15 files in 7 dirs): |
| 01:00.22 | CIA-47 | LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 01:00.22 | CIA-47 | - LibSpecialEvents-Aura-4.0 and LibSpecialEvents-Mount-4.0 are WotLK compatible while still working with 2.4.3 |
| 01:00.22 | CIA-47 | - PetAndMountDatabase is based on if user has 2.4.x or 3+ |
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| 01:00.54 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm making a LibLordFarlander for WAR |
| 01:01.05 | VonhintenHOME` | It's gonna have one function: FuckYeah() |
| 01:01.24 | CIA-47 | 03LordFarlander * r81057 10Coconuts/Coconuts.lua: |
| 01:01.24 | CIA-47 | Coconuts: |
| 01:01.24 | CIA-47 | - Fixed class spell mounts |
| 01:01.29 | Wobin | what -is- liblordfarlander.... |
| 01:01.34 | Wobin | whutwhut? |
| 01:01.52 | JerleMinara | looks like just branches of libs made wotlk compatible |
| 01:01.52 | ckknight | Wobin: LibLordFarlander = { FuckYeah = function(self) return "Fuck Yeah!" end } |
| 01:02.41 | Wobin | so, like alarlib, but better? |
| 01:02.49 | JerleMinara | http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/LibLordFarlander-2.0/ |
| 01:02.51 | JerleMinara | browse for yourself! |
| 01:04.05 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember what it does of its own but he tried creating new versions of the specialevents stuff in trunk and i deleted it so he put it in his lib |
| 01:04.38 | Wobin | looks like he took an addon |
| 01:04.53 | Wobin | then moved all non-ultra-specific to thhe addon code into a library |
| 01:04.55 | Wobin | s |
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| 01:06.32 | Aiiane | JerleMinara |
| 01:06.36 | JerleMinara | oui |
| 01:06.36 | Aiiane | all of the info on thewarwiki |
| 01:06.43 | Aiiane | was gathered by people not in the ui mod group |
| 01:06.47 | JerleMinara | oh ok |
| 01:06.52 | Aiiane | from the freely-available lua interface ingame |
| 01:07.09 | Aiiane | and the client files |
| 01:07.18 | Aiiane | none of it was released by people in mythic's ui group |
| 01:07.24 | JerleMinara | ok |
| 01:07.28 | Aiiane | which is why im sort of wondering why they haven't lowered the NDA for that group |
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| 01:07.34 | Aiiane | considering that the API is pretty much an open secret |
| 01:07.46 | JerleMinara | shrugs |
| 01:07.55 | Arrowmaster | are paladin seals still broken in beta? |
| 01:08.02 | Aiiane | Arrowmaster? |
| 01:08.07 | Aiiane | *:? |
| 01:08.17 | Arrowmaster | they did nothing at all last patch i thought |
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| 01:09.25 | orionshock | eh, how do you fix inconsistant line endings? |
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| 01:10.04 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: you change them all to the same line ending |
| 01:10.09 | orionshock | yes i know that, that's the obvious answer |
| 01:10.32 | Wobin | with a knife? |
| 01:10.45 | Kody- | The WAR NDA is only applicable to content only available on the "Test Servers" also known as "Elder" servers |
| 01:11.00 | Arrowmaster | i just open it in scite then save it and their consistant because of how ive got it configured |
| 01:11.09 | Kody- | Anything accessible with the preview weekend or general closed beta client is not covered by NDA |
| 01:11.42 | orionshock | nice, im on linux atm.. and drowning |
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| 01:12.14 | Wobin | open in vim |
| 01:12.19 | Wobin | then set filetype? |
| 01:12.33 | orionshock | don't know how to use vim :\ |
| 01:14.24 | Wobin | =( |
| 01:14.29 | Wobin | I'd suggest emacs |
| 01:14.37 | Wobin | but can't recall the 15 keycombinations to do the same |
| 01:15.21 | Antiarc | It's worth learning basic vim at least |
| 01:15.34 | Wobin | it's true |
| 01:15.52 | Antiarc | I'm not good at vim, but I know enough to get around and it's very valuable |
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| 01:16.04 | orionshock | another day perhaps :D |
| 01:16.28 | fewyn | sigh |
| 01:16.30 | fewyn | is beta back yet? |
| 01:16.41 | fewyn | i'm totally bored |
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| 01:40.18 | CIA-47 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r81058 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ (layouts/ABF.lua modules/healthbar/healthbar.lua): ag_UnitFrames: changed some default values |
| 01:40.37 | CIA-47 | 03orionshock 07WotLK * r81059 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (14 files in 2 dirs): add local modifications to branch |
| 01:40.48 | orionshock | FINALY |
| 01:40.50 | orionshock | ... |
| 01:41.58 | Ellipsis | are beta servers back up? |
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| 01:42.54 | NivFreak | is there an addon that lets me move blizzard's frames around? (ala spellbook) |
| 01:43.04 | Zyndrome | neg |
| 01:43.14 | Zyndrome | still empty serverlist |
| 01:43.38 | kenlyric | are beta servers coming back up? |
| 01:43.53 | kenlyric | I mean, ever? |
| 01:43.57 | Ellipsis | boo =[ |
| 01:44.06 | Ellipsis | supposed to be up within the next few hours |
| 01:44.14 | Zyndrome | maintenance started ~9 hours ago |
| 01:44.14 | kenlyric | isn't that the ptr? |
| 01:44.22 | Ellipsis | ...there's a ptr? |
| 01:44.33 | kenlyric | that's what all the wow news has been tonight |
| 01:44.48 | kenlyric | ptr forums wiped, etc. |
| 01:45.14 | Ellipsis | anyway, beta servers were taken down for maintenance this morning: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336663776&sid=2000 |
| 01:46.03 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 01:46.15 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
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| 02:12.04 | Groktar | hopefully fixing evil storm peaks |
| 02:12.40 | JerleMinara | 3.0.2 imo~ |
| 02:13.02 | Groktar | patch would already be up |
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| 02:14.46 | JerleMinara | maybe it's such a big patch it's taking forever! |
| 02:14.48 | JerleMinara | think positive |
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| 02:16.58 | Obelixprime | nocts! |
| 02:17.25 | Ellipsis | he's out |
| 02:17.28 | Obelixprime | well |
| 02:17.32 | Obelixprime | you can help too |
| 02:17.33 | Obelixprime | http://colekas.brethren-guild.org/WoWScrnShot_082708_211153.jpg |
| 02:17.35 | Obelixprime | voila |
| 02:17.47 | Ellipsis | much more consistent :) |
| 02:18.14 | Ellipsis | now, about those double dot timers... ;) |
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| 02:24.28 | Xelopheris | Obelixprime, why do you have find treasure on in a raid? |
| 02:25.29 | Zyndrome | like tracking is an issue when you're getting pounded on by a big mean boss :p |
| 02:26.17 | Wobin | he's a dwarf |
| 02:26.20 | Obelixprime | what else would i have? |
| 02:26.21 | Wobin | it's a racial thing |
| 02:26.33 | Wobin | or rather |
| 02:26.37 | Wobin | it's a racial imperative |
| 02:26.51 | Wobin | what would happen if he had it off, and treasure -did- appear? |
| 02:27.04 | Obelixprime | Ellipsis, i originally used the pitbull debuff auras, but i couldn't discern which buffs were counting down |
| 02:27.32 | Obelixprime | since i couldn't figure out which debuffs were falling off |
| 02:27.38 | Obelixprime | so i went back to quartz bars |
| 02:27.51 | Obelixprime | but i still used dotimers for the most of the fight tonight |
| 02:28.33 | Ellipsis | well, which do you prefer for functionality? |
| 02:28.52 | Ellipsis | do you need bars for things other than your target? |
| 02:30.15 | Obelixprime | yeah |
| 02:30.22 | Obelixprime | if i'm multidotting |
| 02:30.29 | Obelixprime | i.e. p2 illidan |
| 02:30.39 | Obelixprime | and its imperative that i keep full dots full time |
| 02:31.13 | Ellipsis | imo get rid of the quartz buff module |
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| 02:34.45 | Obelixprime | yeah |
| 02:34.52 | Groktar | i started playing "what is love" in an empty vent channel |
| 02:34.53 | Obelixprime | i'm leaning towards that |
| 02:34.58 | Groktar | and now there are 10 phantoms in there |
| 02:35.10 | Obelixprime | haha |
| 02:35.11 | Obelixprime | nice |
| 02:35.40 | Xelopheris | What's the bitmask for GUID to check if it's friendly? |
| 02:35.46 | Xelopheris | erm, not friendly, player* |
| 02:40.18 | Obelixprime | beta still down? |
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| 02:44.06 | Groktar | yup |
| 02:46.59 | Groktar | plays baby got back |
| 02:47.28 | fewyn | wtb portable alchemy lab |
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| 02:51.31 | CIA-47 | 03orionshock 07WotLK * r81060 10SickOfClickingDailies/ (Classic.lua core.lua localizations/localization-enUS.lua): |
| 02:51.31 | CIA-47 | SickOfClickingDailies-v6/WotLK Branch: |
| 02:51.31 | CIA-47 | Make options table work.. this is hackish but it looks cool |
| 02:52.01 | Zyndrome | naw, beta's up, just logged in on EU-server |
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| 02:59.31 | Antiarc | awww |
| 02:59.32 | Antiarc | No patch |
| 03:01.01 | fewyn | nope |
| 03:01.06 | fewyn | hopefully fixed stability |
| 03:01.08 | fewyn | it's up tho |
| 03:07.36 | Obelixprime | annnnd |
| 03:07.37 | Obelixprime | its down |
| 03:07.53 | Odlaw | stability == false |
| 03:08.19 | Ellipsis | so they didn't fix the server and they didn't patch the cilent |
| 03:08.25 | Ellipsis | wtf was all the downtime for, exactly? |
| 03:08.31 | Dashkal | good question :S |
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| 03:13.00 | Zyndrome | give us a false sense of security |
| 03:14.07 | Odlaw | rotating hamsters. |
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| 03:18.38 | Zyndrome | and the hamster just fell out of the wheel again |
| 03:19.35 | Odlaw | hamster is just incompatible.. the steps on the wheel are too far apart for this one. |
| 03:20.46 | WobWork | poor hamster |
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| 04:37.19 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r07bfbf2 10/ classes/PaladinSeal.lua : Don't need that, it's optional - http://is.gd/1Zrp |
| 04:37.19 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r53b5cb9 10/ (23 files in 3 dirs): Move stuff to "modules" folder since it's going to be more than just class-specific stuff - http://is.gd/1Zrq |
| 04:37.20 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * rc6f09e5 10/ (Cork.toc modules/Repairs.lua tekKonfig/tekKonfigSlider.lua): Add repairs module - http://is.gd/1Zrr |
| 04:39.40 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r15fd820 10/ modules/Repairs.lua : Oops, don't need that either - http://is.gd/1Zrx |
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| 06:14.20 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r609e700 10/ (Cork.toc modules/Shucks.lua): Add clam shucker - http://is.gd/1Zxu |
| 06:14.23 | CIA-47 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r493b1a8 10/ (Cork.toc modules/Tracking.lua): |
| 06:14.23 | CIA-47 | cork: Add tracking module |
| 06:14.23 | CIA-47 | cork: - Only tracks spells, not "helpers" - http://is.gd/1Zxv |
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| 06:36.53 | Antiarc | So I figured out how to get xfire broadcasting |
| 06:36.54 | Antiarc | http://www.xfire.com/live_video/antiarc/ |
| 06:36.55 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:38.46 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: haha world server crashed |
| 06:38.51 | Antiarc | :( |
| 06:39.10 | nevcairiel | But i've been exploring storm peaks myself today |
| 06:39.12 | nevcairiel | its amazing |
| 06:39.22 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's gorgeous |
| 06:39.29 | Antiarc | I've run out of quests though :( |
| 06:39.33 | digmouse | wowui.cn suckers |
| 06:39.38 | nevcairiel | Its probably not finished |
| 06:39.42 | digmouse | I gonna kill all them |
| 06:39.44 | nevcairiel | I didnt actually quest there yet |
| 06:39.55 | nevcairiel | I'm still stuck in zul'drak quest wise |
| 06:39.57 | Antiarc | I'm halfway to 80 |
| 06:39.59 | nevcairiel | and didnt touch sholazar either |
| 06:40.08 | Antiarc | Sholazar is awesome |
| 06:40.11 | nevcairiel | I'm still 77 so thats fine =P |
| 06:40.56 | Antiarc | LOL |
| 06:41.01 | Antiarc | I just hit randomize on a new character |
| 06:41.04 | Antiarc | And it's a dwarf |
| 06:41.08 | Antiarc | And it gave me the name "Booze" |
| 06:41.28 | Fisker- | hoho Antiarc |
| 06:41.32 | Zyndrome | random name unavailable |
| 06:41.34 | Zyndrome | ho ho ho |
| 06:41.43 | Antiarc | :( |
| 06:41.47 | Antiarc | I settled for Siderbooze |
| 06:42.03 | nevcairiel | Antiarc: i still wonder why we dont even have the random name function in eu |
| 06:44.21 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, did u ever finish updating that addon that tracks teammates cooldowns? |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-47 | 03digmouse * r81061 10SpellReminder/locale/zhCN.lua: |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-47 | SpellReminder: |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-47 | - zhCN update |
| 06:45.30 | CIA-47 | - remove wowui.cn tags. U even left true in the file, how dare? |
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| 07:48.43 | Zyndrome | http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54438 |
| 07:48.59 | Zyndrome | christians taking a stab at guitar hero & rock band stuff |
| 07:49.03 | Zyndrome | this can not be good |
| 07:54.09 | Zyndrome | Antiarc , turn off error speech ? :p |
| 07:54.38 | Antiarc | where is that? |
| 07:54.39 | Zyndrome | pro-tip : sound |
| 07:55.00 | Antiarc | I'm so used to it I don't hear it anymore :P |
| 07:55.07 | Antiarc | But done |
| 07:56.00 | Zyndrome | wonder if I should broadcWORLD SERVER DOWN |
| 07:56.05 | Zyndrome | .. |
| 07:57.28 | Lyn_ | lalalala |
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| 08:06.59 | Adirelle|work | these servers fall more often thant as 10 months old baby that learns to walk |
| 08:07.03 | Adirelle|work | -t |
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| 08:24.54 | Wraithan | I know my server has been on meltdown watch for a week now from what a friend who works there says |
| 08:25.10 | Wraithan | hasn't died yet but is suspected to go next |
| 08:25.13 | Wraithan | (Shadowsong) |
| 08:25.31 | Arrowmaster | lol wtf? |
| 08:25.58 | Arrowmaster | thats cheap that they would put a server on meltdown watch and just wait for it to die |
| 08:26.45 | Adirelle|work | dominos fails with buttonfacade |
| 08:27.04 | Adirelle|work | or... buttonfacade fils with domino buttons |
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| 08:29.27 | Wraithan | Arrowmaster: Guess they have a bulk order of parts coming in on like friday or something |
| 08:29.42 | Arrowmaster | ah that makes more sense |
| 08:29.46 | Wraithan | until then they are just buying stuff as it breaks |
| 08:30.20 | Wraithan | Adirelle|work: you say that, yet my dominos is working fine with buttonfacade |
| 08:30.35 | Wraithan | suspects pebkac |
| 08:30.55 | Adirelle|work | Wraithan: woltk version or on live ? |
| 08:31.00 | Wraithan | live |
| 08:31.48 | Adirelle|work | ok, so that's the wotlk version that fails |
| 08:32.03 | Wraithan | Ah you didn't specify heh |
| 08:32.17 | Adirelle|work | when I click on one of the buttons, it reverts to the standard button look |
| 08:32.48 | Ellipsis | that's what you get for being a dirty clicker |
| 08:33.09 | Wraithan | Like you skin it, then finish your skinning, then you click the button (with your mouse) and it takes the skin away? |
| 08:33.17 | Adirelle|work | actually it does the same when I use the keybinding |
| 08:33.30 | Adirelle|work | the "click" animation leaves a border around the button |
| 08:34.32 | Stanzilla | it's sad that the BF author vanished into the dark :( |
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| 08:45.11 | Adirelle|work | for my wotlk addons I'm torn between using wotlk branches with embedded libraries and deleting embedded Ace3 and Ace2 from addons to use their standalone, wotlk version |
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| 08:49.34 | Adirelle|work | aaah, crap |
| 08:52.46 | Adirelle|work | ace3 wotk version numbers haven't been bumped, so if you test addons that embeds the live libraries and addons that embeds the wotlk libraries, there is no way to be sure which is finally used |
| 08:53.14 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: ping ? |
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| 09:01.40 | CIA-47 | 03tifi * r81062 10OneHitWonder/ (. OneHitWonder.toc ohw.lua ohw.xml ohw_gui.lua): |
| 09:01.40 | CIA-47 | OneHitWonder: Initial commit |
| 09:01.40 | CIA-47 | - Tank helper addon that tracks incoming damage. |
| 09:08.16 | Adirelle|work | anyone about Ace3 wotlk branch ? |
| 09:09.01 | charon | hands Adirelle|work a spare verb from the replacements he keeps for such cases |
| 09:09.35 | [Ammo] | shot adirelle |
| 09:09.37 | [Ammo] | shoot |
| 09:10.12 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: what about bumping minor versions of the libraries that has been modified in the woltk branch ? |
| 09:11.03 | [Ammo] | you should not be using the regular Ace3 on WotlK |
| 09:11.11 | [Ammo] | versions will be bumped eventually |
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| 09:12.13 | Adirelle|work | actually I manually manage the addons, and this is quite messy |
| 09:12.17 | nevcairiel | i think we even bumped them |
| 09:12.29 | [Ammo] | I'm checking the log for that right now |
| 09:12.34 | [Ammo] | but my comment still stands |
| 09:12.42 | [Ammo] | don't use regular Ace3 on wotlk |
| 09:13.10 | Adirelle|work | I'm manually managing my wotlk addons, and it becomes quite hard to keep regular Ace3 out of the way |
| 09:13.23 | [Ammo] | well the minors were bumped |
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| 09:14.13 | Fisker- | [Ammo] is mean |
| 09:14.26 | Fisker- | he touched me in places |
| 09:14.29 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:14.38 | Ellipsis | nowhere you haven't been touched before |
| 09:14.43 | [Ammo] | only AceConfigDialog minor wasn't bumped, but that one isn't affected |
| 09:15.03 | [Ammo] | all widgets have bumped minors |
| 09:15.03 | nevcairiel | there wasnt even a change in ACD |
| 09:15.24 | Adirelle|work | damn, I check it though... I would had swear they wasn't |
| 09:15.38 | Adirelle|work | nvm them |
| 09:15.49 | Fisker- | lays Ellipsis in a carpet and rolls it up |
| 09:15.51 | [Ammo] | if they weren't then arrowmaster made a fake commit saying they were ;) |
| 09:15.54 | Adirelle|work | no I have find out why some addons work on |
| 09:15.56 | Fisker- | doing it right yet? |
| 09:16.08 | Ellipsis | no. |
| 09:16.14 | Ellipsis | now go make me a snack |
| 09:16.18 | Adirelle|work | now I have to find why Quartz works fine on my home computer but fails on this computer |
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| 09:19.18 | Fisker- | THE NERVE |
| 09:19.28 | Fisker- | so just because i kill alliance they start trying to kill me |
| 09:20.02 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: yeah i bumped them on the branch |
| 09:20.37 | Punkie | ~whalenuke Fisker- |
| 09:20.38 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers. |
| 09:21.12 | Fisker- | hello Punkie |
| 09:21.13 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 09:21.22 | Punkie | y helo thar |
| 09:22.36 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: somebody complained when they were trying to use an addon with the wotlk ace3 embedded and aother with the live one embedded and no standalone ace3 so i figured just bump the beta one for those 2 files so i never had to heard the same thing again |
| 09:22.53 | [Ammo] | good idea |
| 09:23.04 | Fisker- | OH NOW I HAS HATE |
| 09:23.22 | Fisker- | someone just counterspelled me while low on HP and aoe farming stuff |
| 09:23.48 | nevcairiel | We should merge the changes into the development branch with If's or so, its like 3 lines that have to be changed to make ace3 work =P |
| 09:24.22 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: agreed, especially for the widgets that are just api methods being renamed |
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| 09:28.00 | Fisker- | how much SR should you use against mother? |
| 09:28.21 | nevcairiel | cap =P |
| 09:28.24 | CrazyBenny | full 365 |
| 09:28.51 | Fisker- | alright |
| 09:28.52 | sacarasc | that for the full raid? |
| 09:29.04 | Fisker- | besides MTs yeah |
| 09:29.23 | sacarasc | damn... that's gonna be a lowish dps fight, if ever i get to it |
| 09:29.31 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 09:29.35 | Arrowmaster | its a fucking snore fest |
| 09:29.40 | Arrowmaster | soo long |
| 09:29.53 | charon | OTs can wear some, when someone mentioned that idea to me i checked logs and at 0 SR they get more shadow than physical damage so getting to maybe 25% resist should be an advantage |
| 09:29.54 | Fisker- | If you could have a decent gear slot free of shadow resistance |
| 09:29.58 | Fisker- | but only get 360 SR |
| 09:30.03 | Fisker- | wouldn't it still be "alright"? |
| 09:30.04 | sacarasc | struggling on Kazrogal currently |
| 09:30.16 | Fisker- | wut? |
| 09:30.19 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: sure |
| 09:30.28 | Fisker- | kaz'rogal isn't he the mana drain jerk? |
| 09:30.53 | sacarasc | yeah, Fisker- |
| 09:31.14 | nevcairiel | kazrogal is a push over |
| 09:31.15 | Fisker- | how can you be stuck on him? :( |
| 09:31.15 | Arrowmaster | i actually was equiping my neltharion's tear when i put on my SR gear because of all the stat loss |
| 09:31.48 | [Ammo] | become a warlock and fuck SR gear :p |
| 09:32.00 | Arrowmaster | [Ammo]: i am |
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| 09:32.16 | [Ammo] | then you need like no SR gear |
| 09:32.27 | charon | (kazrogal is a push-... wtf the MT died! dps geared feral must tank!) |
| 09:32.30 | Arrowmaster | and i bitched at the raidleader for my fucking elemental shaman when i tanked illidan |
| 09:32.41 | Arrowmaster | because of +hit loss |
| 09:34.52 | sacarasc | charon: we all die, especially me with my mana pool of about 7k fully buffed |
| 09:36.18 | CIA-47 | 03cwdg * r81063 10BagSlots/ (6 files in 2 dirs): |
| 09:36.18 | CIA-47 | BagSlots: update BagSlots.lua locale |
| 09:36.18 | CIA-47 | fix enUS Locale |
| 09:36.18 | CIA-47 | add Chinese Locale files zhCN.lua zhTW.lua |
| 09:36.18 | CIA-47 | locale by 急云@CWDG |
| 09:40.49 | nevcairiel | 7k fully buffed? |
| 09:40.54 | nevcairiel | what class has that few mana? |
| 09:42.51 | Ellipsis | feral drood? :P |
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| 09:43.00 | thul | http://yogan.meinungsverstaerker.de/fun/2girls1cup_cake.jpg |
| 09:43.29 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: well they are in kitty or bear form, and mana doesnt show |
| 09:44.12 | Ellipsis | yeah it's a stretch, that was kind of my point :P |
| 09:45.00 | Punkie | peanut butter is awesome |
| 09:45.55 | Fisker- | what's the release command when you can't release? |
| 09:45.56 | Elkano | that was no peanut butter... I thought you knew that... |
| 09:46.15 | Corgan | isn't it like, repopme |
| 09:46.17 | Corgan | or something |
| 09:46.34 | Corgan | RepopMe(); |
| 09:46.39 | Fisker- | damn |
| 09:46.40 | Fisker- | doesn't work |
| 09:47.02 | Punkie | Elkano: i didnt click on that link if you're on aboutthat :P |
| 09:47.41 | CIA-47 | 03tifi * r81064 10OneHitWonder/ (. OneHitWonder.toc embeds.xml): OneHitWonder: fixing externals is fun! |
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| 09:48.30 | Elkano | Punkie, nope I wasn't |
| 09:48.53 | Punkie | well ok o |
| 09:48.55 | Punkie | :o |
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| 09:49.45 | Elkano | Fisker-, try AcceptResurrect(); |
| 09:50.06 | Elkano | but RepopMe() should have worked :/ |
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| 09:51.26 | Fisker- | nevermind |
| 09:51.32 | Fisker- | seems like Blizzard fucked up all the servers |
| 09:51.34 | Fisker- | it's just lag :D |
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| 09:54.53 | Tifi | how exactly does this no-ext thing work? does the packager automatically modify embeds.xml? do i have to setup anything special beyond that? |
| 09:56.04 | CIA-47 | 03sayclub * r81065 10BagSlots/Locales/koKR.lua: |
| 09:56.04 | CIA-47 | BagSlots : |
| 09:56.04 | CIA-47 | - koKR update. |
| 09:57.18 | Ellipsis | if your externals and toc are properly set up, it should "just work" |
| 09:57.32 | Ellipsis | the packaging script replaces embeds.xml automatically for no-ext zips |
| 09:58.26 | Tifi | ok then |
| 09:58.31 | Tifi | thx |
| 09:59.00 | orionshock | we've got a lot of Auto-Magic here |
| 09:59.03 | Elkano | just make sure that any non-wowace external isn't loaded via embeds.xml |
| 09:59.34 | Tifi | they're all from wowace |
| 10:00.12 | Tifi | and how often is the script run? |
| 10:00.23 | orionshock | every 20 mins on the hour |
| 10:00.54 | Tifi | ok ty guys |
| 10:03.35 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5640174358&postId=56396269973&sid=1#15 <-boots for arena points? in my wow? |
| 10:07.54 | Zyndrome | I think he/she/it means arena rating |
| 10:09.05 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 10:09.06 | Fisker- | ah |
| 10:09.30 | sylvanaar | man, i am so no bored...i need something to do |
| 10:09.43 | sylvanaar | s/so no/so/ |
| 10:10.01 | sylvanaar | is at work |
| 10:10.20 | Tifi | then start writing that notepad addon! |
| 10:10.33 | sylvanaar | nah |
| 10:10.42 | Tifi | =( |
| 10:11.10 | sylvanaar | what real use does it hve |
| 10:11.37 | sylvanaar | have you seen the blizzard calendar - that thing is going to really be a hit |
| 10:12.18 | sylvanaar | if only they could combine the calender with the LFG tool, they would have a real winner |
| 10:12.30 | Fisker- | they need to make signups for the calendar as well |
| 10:12.41 | Fisker- | and yeah combining it with the LFG tool would be cool |
| 10:12.58 | nevcairiel | how would you combine those ? o.O |
| 10:13.05 | sylvanaar | that would make it the equivalent of calltoarms |
| 10:13.08 | nevcairiel | searching groups for the weekend? =P |
| 10:13.11 | Fisker- | You would announce raids or similar on the LFG tool |
| 10:13.36 | Fisker- | Then other people could find and join your raid/party/whatever using the LFG tool |
| 10:13.47 | Fisker- | i'm just guessing it would be massively abused by goldfarmers |
| 10:13.50 | Fisker- | so rather not have it :P |
| 10:13.53 | nevcairiel | I would rather invite people then let them join on their own |
| 10:14.16 | Fisker- | I just want the signup part to work |
| 10:14.19 | Thrae | Finally Blizzard admits their game requires enough scheduling to require a calendar. Next they'll make a Reference API so you can call and get references for your real-life job. "Hey look, Blizzard backs me up and I have schedules to prove I've killed Arthas 40 times, each managing 40 people!" |
| 10:14.20 | Fisker- | inviting people is silly |
| 10:14.50 | Fisker- | also |
| 10:14.53 | nevcairiel | wtf is with the live realms anyway |
| 10:15.01 | nevcairiel | "Error retrieving character list" |
| 10:15.05 | Fisker- | You should be able to watch tradeskills from guild members |
| 10:15.08 | sylvanaar | CallToArms is still the best LFG addon ever made, too bad its going to die in 30000 |
| 10:15.11 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 10:15.26 | nevcairiel | all LFG addons that dont use the LFG API fail |
| 10:15.32 | nevcairiel | because they require you to use an addon |
| 10:15.37 | Fisker- | They should use some of that bitfield ingenuity to make us search certain items within profession |
| 10:16.21 | sylvanaar | the lfg api fails- so bad they had to resort using the addon channel again |
| 10:16.28 | sylvanaar | s/addon/lfg/ |
| 10:16.57 | nevcairiel | and so their addon fails |
| 10:17.10 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt install a addon to look for a group |
| 10:17.16 | sylvanaar | CallTOArms never required anyone else to use it |
| 10:17.34 | nevcairiel | I usually sign up on the LFG tool and ask around in guild and friends |
| 10:17.50 | sylvanaar | right |
| 10:18.40 | sylvanaar | but you have to stay on your main to use the LFG tool |
| 10:19.20 | nevcairiel | If you cant stay on your main for 15 minutes to find a group, you dont deserve to find one *shrug* |
| 10:20.03 | nevcairiel | sure it would be nice to be able to sign your other chars up for groups |
| 10:20.10 | nevcairiel | but i dont see it as the big issue people claim it is |
| 10:20.14 | nevcairiel | its just that people are lazy |
| 10:21.04 | sylvanaar | i think you need your own planet. Planet Nev, where noone else matters but you because they are all NPC's |
| 10:21.35 | Ellipsis | hate to break it to you, but this *is* planet nev, and we don't matter :P |
| 10:21.42 | Pkekyo| | wth...it took UPS 11 hours to ship my damn parcel out of the country >.< |
| 10:21.44 | nevcairiel | Exactly! |
| 10:21.46 | Pkekyo| | plonks Ellipsis |
| 10:21.55 | nevcairiel | Also, nolonger allowed to say my opionion, eh? |
| 10:21.57 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo|, you are obsessing way too much about this thing :P |
| 10:22.08 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: yes...but...but...but :p |
| 10:22.14 | Pkekyo| | I need it before friday x) |
| 10:22.20 | Pkekyo| | before sunday* |
| 10:22.46 | Ellipsis | QQQQQQQQQQ |
| 10:22.50 | Pkekyo| | JES!" |
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| 10:24.33 | Pkekyo| | anyone here happen to know if there are red filters for insight's M3 light? |
| 10:24.42 | Fisker- | haxes Ellipsis |
| 10:25.16 | Ellipsis | haxes? in MY Fisker-? |
| 10:25.29 | Industrial | secures Ellipsis |
| 10:25.39 | Fisker- | cries |
| 10:25.44 | Industrial | wins |
| 10:25.44 | Ellipsis | whew, I was getting worried for a moment |
| 10:25.44 | Ellipsis | . |
| 10:25.59 | Industrial | guys guys gusy |
| 10:26.00 | Ellipsis | tries not to mash random keys with her foot |
| 10:26.05 | Industrial | i got a mac |
| 10:26.07 | Industrial | =D |
| 10:26.10 | Ellipsis | ... |
| 10:26.14 | Industrial | im so happ with it :3 |
| 10:26.17 | [Ammo] | my condolances indy |
| 10:26.23 | Ellipsis | k you're not my friend anymore Industrial |
| 10:26.27 | Industrial | nooo =( |
| 10:26.28 | Ellipsis | sorry :< |
| 10:26.35 | Fisker- | i hate you also Industrial |
| 10:26.37 | Fisker- | but then again |
| 10:26.39 | Fisker- | that changes nothing |
| 10:26.43 | Industrial | I dont care, right. |
| 10:26.45 | Industrial | right. |
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| 10:26.52 | Fisker- | oh but you do |
| 10:27.00 | Fisker- | is bestestest friends with Ellipsis |
| 10:27.08 | Ellipsis | he is? |
| 10:27.20 | Kuja^ | oh noes! |
| 10:27.33 | Industrial | but Ellipsis; its a unix backend with candy desktop with all applications that you need already there and they work. did I mention everything just works? |
| 10:27.56 | Ellipsis | Industrial: everything "just works" with UI compilations, too... ;) |
| 10:28.45 | Pkekyo| | chuckles |
| 10:28.47 | Industrial | I can run any well a lot of linux apps if I want :P |
| 10:29.03 | Ellipsis | yeah but if it's not built from scratch, it won't fit your needs exactly :P |
| 10:29.05 | Pkekyo| | army of two has convinced me...I'm gonna be a PMC! :D |
| 10:29.40 | Punkie | isn't army of two a terrible game? |
| 10:30.17 | Fisker- | i r teh bored |
| 10:30.30 | Industrial | i r teh late for programming class :< |
| 10:30.31 | Pkekyo| | Punkie: yeh, but shows that PMC > all :D |
| 10:30.33 | Industrial | bbl |
| 10:31.06 | Ellipsis | yeah, go learn to program, Industrial ;D |
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| 10:32.26 | Punkie | today is a pretty boring day |
| 10:32.27 | Industrial | no no im doing it for fun and to ask mart ass questions |
| 10:32.33 | Fisker- | Industrial mac users don't program stuff |
| 10:32.38 | Ellipsis | you are quite the mart-ass, yes ;) |
| 10:32.39 | Fisker- | They just clip together movies |
| 10:32.47 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 10:32.56 | Elkano | I wonder if one could write an ingame AI that would analize bossfights and after some tries could tell you what to do... ;) |
| 10:33.01 | Industrial | no windows movie maker users do that Fisker- |
| 10:33.06 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 10:33.11 | Ellipsis | Fisker- fail. |
| 10:33.13 | Fisker- | i'll analize your bossfights Ellipsis |
| 10:33.13 | Industrial | first thing I did here was open a terminal tyvm :> |
| 10:33.23 | Fisker- | if you know what i mean |
| 10:33.23 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 10:33.24 | Industrial | anyway bbl |
| 10:33.24 | Ellipsis | my boss fights are too complex for mortal minds |
| 10:34.00 | Fisker- | wonders if Ellipsis has been aware of the misspelt "Analyze"? >:3 |
| 10:34.18 | Punkie | Fisker-: going to blizzcon? |
| 10:34.22 | Ellipsis | wonders if Fisker- thinks she's blind or just slow |
| 10:35.01 | Fisker- | Punkie yeah |
| 10:35.03 | Fisker- | of course i am |
| 10:35.09 | Punkie | nice one see you there |
| 10:35.18 | Fisker- | i.e. sarcasm |
| 10:35.22 | Fisker- | I LIVE IN TEH EUROPE |
| 10:35.26 | Fisker- | and i no has private jet |
| 10:35.26 | Punkie | me too |
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| 10:35.30 | Fisker- | or moneys for teh flight |
| 10:35.40 | Fisker- | also |
| 10:35.47 | Punkie | do you just play wow all day? ;o |
| 10:35.50 | Fisker- | I would be put in a cell for a week upon arrival to US |
| 10:36.02 | Fisker- | not all day, but close atm :P |
| 10:36.11 | CIA-47 | 03shefki * r81066 10SynCamera/ (Bindings.xml SynCamera.lua SynCamera.toc): |
| 10:36.11 | CIA-47 | SynCamera: |
| 10:36.11 | CIA-47 | - Bump the Interface. |
| 10:36.11 | CIA-47 | - Remove Bindings.xml from the toc file, it's implicitly parsed. |
| 10:36.11 | CIA-47 | - Rename the section SynCamera, Miscellaneous is silly. |
| 10:36.12 | CIA-47 | - Only specify the binding header once to avoid FrameXML.log errors. |
| 10:36.14 | Fisker- | Done school, looking for a job |
| 10:36.14 | Punkie | man that must be boring |
| 10:36.20 | Fisker- | yeah :I |
| 10:36.46 | Ellipsis | everyone knows Fisker-s are banned in america |
| 10:36.54 | Fisker- | of course |
| 10:36.58 | Fisker- | i look like Osama Bin Laden |
| 10:37.07 | sylvaan | ~Fisker- |
| 10:37.08 | purl | [fisker-] Get to da choppa! |
| 10:37.09 | Shefki | You watch whoever wrote that addon will come out of the woodwork to bitch at me for doing that. |
| 10:37.12 | Punkie | nice upload a pick of yourself |
| 10:37.16 | Punkie | pic** |
| 10:37.19 | Shefki | But they haven't udpated it in over a year. So they can deal with it. |
| 10:37.21 | Fisker- | nevers |
| 10:37.25 | Punkie | y? |
| 10:37.39 | Fisker- | 1. i don't have cameras |
| 10:37.42 | Fisker- | 2. i don't liek pictars |
| 10:37.47 | Ellipsis | 3. Ellipsis would have to go afk |
| 10:37.56 | Ellipsis | and Fisker- would miss Ellipsis! |
| 10:37.59 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 10:38.07 | Shefki | 4. Ellipsis is always afk looking at cute kittens. |
| 10:38.20 | Ellipsis | yes, I'm "looking" at "cute kittens" right now in fact |
| 10:38.35 | Shefki | Of course. |
| 10:40.16 | Kalroth | is cute kittens slang for boobies? if so, share please |
| 10:40.36 | Shefki | No it's codee for cute kittens. |
| 10:41.06 | Kalroth | Dude, it's Ellipsis, it's a code for something other than cute kittens |
| 10:41.56 | Ellipsis | grins wickedly |
| 10:42.52 | Punkie | is surprised theres no post a pic of yourself on wowace forums |
| 10:43.03 | Ellipsis | now, if only you people could actually see what's on my screen and find out whether I'm really that innocent ;) |
| 10:43.48 | Shefki | We could see if you shared it. |
| 10:44.01 | Ellipsis | http://mfrost.typepad.com/cute_overload/images/2008/08/24/cutecutecute.jpg |
| 10:44.13 | Ellipsis | happy? :P |
| 10:44.41 | Shefki | I'd be happier if you weren't looking at kittens and were dutifully leveling on beta. |
| 10:44.47 | Shefki | Need more people to do crap with. |
| 10:45.14 | Ellipsis | I would, but I don't really care much about doing the beta thing right now |
| 10:45.25 | Ellipsis | just log on occasionally to mess around with my UI |
| 10:45.49 | sylvaan | purl is a difficult bot |
| 10:46.12 | sylvaan | ~emulate sylvanaar |
| 10:46.12 | purl | stack overflow |
| 10:46.25 | sylvaan | ~purl |
| 10:46.26 | purl | ACTION purrs. |
| 10:46.37 | Shefki | Should be: nterface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:32: attempt to index local 'tab' (a number value) |
| 10:46.38 | Kalroth | Ellipsis: Fake link, my keylogger shows something else! |
| 10:46.47 | sylvaan | ~keylogger |
| 10:46.48 | purl | ACTION keylogs sylvaan to find that the last letters typed were x-e-s-l-a-n-a-o-t-n-i-m-a-i |
| 10:46.50 | Ellipsis | Kalroth: d'oh, you caught me |
| 10:47.10 | Ellipsis | also, rofl |
| 10:47.20 | Ellipsis | whatever does it for you sylvaan |
| 10:47.54 | Shefki | sylvaan: How far off is a usable config UI for the new Prat? |
| 10:48.10 | sylvaan | its usable now |
| 10:48.12 | Kalroth | Ellipsis: It's the only way sylvaan can remember his account password |
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| 10:48.30 | Ellipsis | oh snap :P |
| 10:48.42 | sylvaan | shefki i use prat3 exclusively now |
| 10:48.44 | Shefki | sylvaan: Typing /prat emutes a UI error. |
| 10:48.57 | sylvaan | then you have the wrong Ace2 |
| 10:48.59 | sylvaan | ace3 |
| 10:49.14 | Shefki | Which Ace3 should I have? |
| 10:49.20 | Kalroth | the right one |
| 10:49.28 | sylvaan | the one that matches the version of the game you are running |
| 10:49.42 | sylvaan | where are you running prat? live or beta |
| 10:50.01 | Shefki | beta |
| 10:50.12 | orionshock | then u need the wotlk branch of ace3 |
| 10:50.18 | sylvaan | then you need the WoTLK Ace3 ^^ |
| 10:50.38 | orionshock | gg wiping on Bloodboil blows |
| 10:50.39 | Fisker- | haxes |
| 10:50.44 | Fisker- | it does orionshock? :o |
| 10:50.57 | Shefki | You guys made a separate branch for a framework rather than just making the framework work with both? O.O |
| 10:51.12 | Kalroth | .. |
| 10:51.14 | orionshock | welcome to being a beta tester |
| 10:51.19 | nevcairiel | We only care about a working Live version |
| 10:51.26 | sylvaan | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14824.0 read #3 for a link |
| 10:51.28 | nevcairiel | lazy people have no place in using beta addons |
| 10:51.41 | Kalroth | (note: nev doesn't use beta addons) |
| 10:51.52 | nevcairiel | nah i write them =P |
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| 10:52.22 | Kalroth | See, it's the same as me; I write software and if it compiles I ship it to QA and let them do the testing |
| 10:53.41 | Kalroth | http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/striphandler.ashx?stripid=2bb76226-35c3-432c-8b36-4b2b30cbfb29 |
| 10:57.21 | Ellipsis | I don't see much value in writing code I don't use myself, better to leave that to someone who understands the situation better and can test more thoroughly than I would |
| 10:58.07 | sylvanaar | i enjoy writing code, i also like sharing it with others who find it useful |
| 10:58.33 | sylvanaar | even if i dont use it myself |
| 10:59.55 | orionshock | so how do you create a meta table that pulls from 4 or more different tables? |
| 11:00.22 | cncfanatics | orionshock: with __index |
| 11:00.24 | [Ammo] | write a function that does that and call it from the index meta |
| 11:00.31 | cncfanatics | just make a function that looks up in every of those tables |
| 11:00.43 | cncfanatics | damn [Ammo] beat me to it |
| 11:00.44 | orionshock | figured |
| 11:01.15 | Shefki | Or if there's a specific order that you want to look in them you can just chain them. |
| 11:01.51 | orionshock | __index = function(t,k) for _, subTbl in pairs(hold) do; if subTbl[k] then return subTbl[k] end end end ? |
| 11:01.58 | sylvanaar | its Lua there are plenty of ways to accomplish the same thing |
| 11:02.21 | [Ammo] | orionshock: that would be one way |
| 11:02.23 | sylvanaar | you can also set t[k] to cache the result |
| 11:02.31 | [Ammo] | but all you're creating is syntactic sugar :) |
| 11:02.40 | [Ammo] | instead of t[k] -> t(k) |
| 11:02.47 | [Ammo] | I mean other way around |
| 11:02.47 | orionshock | thought about that too, caching would create interactive problems |
| 11:02.55 | [Ammo] | you could just use a func to retrieve the value |
| 11:03.04 | nevcairiel | the table could do caching |
| 11:03.12 | [Ammo] | yeah but if you don't cache -> use a func |
| 11:03.45 | sylvanaar | ^^ |
| 11:03.45 | Pkekyo| | STOP BEING SO GODDAMN PREGNANT |
| 11:03.56 | Fisker- | knocks Pkekyo| up |
| 11:03.59 | Fisker- | 1- |
| 11:04.00 | orionshock | [Ammo]: ? how? |
| 11:04.01 | Fisker- | 1-0 |
| 11:04.19 | [Ammo] | right now you do: print(t[k]) |
| 11:04.26 | Fisker- | btw Industrial |
| 11:04.26 | sylvanaar | GetMyValueFromKey(key) |
| 11:04.26 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1219919494177.png |
| 11:04.35 | [Ammo] | if you define your func as: function t(k) for _, subTbl in pairs(hold) do; if subTbl[k] then return subTbl[k] end end end |
| 11:04.40 | [Ammo] | then you do print(t(k)) |
| 11:04.48 | Pkekyo| | rofl Fisker- |
| 11:04.59 | orionshock | [Ammo]: got a point |
| 11:05.03 | [Ammo] | all you created with the metatable (without caching) is syntactic sugar |
| 11:05.13 | orionshock | ic |
| 11:05.29 | [Ammo] | if you start using caching then its a diff story |
| 11:05.43 | orionshock | can't cache, so i'll switch around to that method |
| 11:05.51 | Ellipsis | but syntactic sugar is so yummy, and with way less calories than the real stuff |
| 11:06.05 | sylvanaar | i prefer splenda |
| 11:06.05 | orionshock | caching makes setting changes harder and more of a pain in the ass |
| 11:06.29 | sylvanaar | you can clear your cache |
| 11:06.45 | sylvanaar | or use weak values |
| 11:06.55 | orionshock | aceGUI dosn't fire callbacks when you close the window :\ |
| 11:07.01 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:07.32 | [Ammo] | __index = function(t,k) if not rawget(t,k) then t[k] = ....... end return t[k] end |
| 11:07.35 | Tifi | when i add a library to the X-Embeds field, will it show up as a dependency in latest-noext.xml? |
| 11:08.05 | sylvanaar | yeah, for aceconfig, i decided that its best to use 1 copy of a static table |
| 11:08.31 | sylvanaar | after talking to nagardly about it the other day |
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| 11:10.16 | orionshock | hehe, imo, i've used some hackery to get the modules in SickOfClickingDailies to work... |
| 11:10.20 | sylvanaar | i redid prat3's channelnames module and removed the metatable implementation i was using. i like the current solution better. idk what you are trying to solve, maybe it doesnt apply |
| 11:10.58 | [Ammo] | orionshock: I suggest looking at the Mapster modules and config impl |
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| 11:11.10 | [Ammo] | afaik its a pretty clean solution |
| 11:12.12 | orionshock | ya i got something similar |
| 11:13.02 | orionshock | my goal in v6 is to eliminate as much localizations in the module files... it's working some what better.. |
| 11:13.32 | orionshock | or atleast make a 400 line config table easier to manage |
| 11:13.49 | [Ammo] | I split of lots of config stuff in sep functions |
| 11:14.13 | orionshock | [Ammo]: try again with that |
| 11:14.27 | [Ammo] | hmm? |
| 11:14.36 | orionshock | I split of lots of |
| 11:14.39 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 11:14.49 | [Ammo] | split my config table |
| 11:14.55 | [Ammo] | in separate functions |
| 11:15.01 | orionshock | "i think you mean "I'd split lots of stuff up in separate functions" |
| 11:15.41 | [Ammo] | that too |
| 11:15.44 | sylvanaar | i wouldnt use functions to return config tables if those functions cant be gc'ed |
| 11:15.46 | [Ammo] | but that's just an optimization |
| 11:15.47 | nevcairiel | I think he meant that he did it already =p |
| 11:16.04 | [Ammo] | you don't open config often |
| 11:16.06 | [Ammo] | like almost never |
| 11:16.09 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: they use less memory if the config is never opend |
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| 11:16.23 | sylvanaar | you still have the code to create the table |
| 11:16.30 | [Ammo] | its less than the table itself |
| 11:16.36 | sylvanaar | that stays in memory forever |
| 11:16.48 | [Ammo] | assumption one: config is almost never opened |
| 11:17.09 | [Ammo] | if you have to continuesly config stuff the addon has a serious flaw |
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| 11:18.11 | sylvanaar | also, the code to return a config table uses more memory unless you are generating it using loops or whatnot. |
| 11:18.36 | sylvanaar | if you just have a function that returns a big table, you use more memory |
| 11:18.38 | nevcairiel | When the config is never opened, it uses less |
| 11:18.39 | [Ammo] | it doesn't in my limited tests |
| 11:19.03 | [Ammo] | the solution does use more mem when the config is opened |
| 11:19.09 | [Ammo] | but that's where assumption one comes into play |
| 11:19.50 | nevcairiel | I save about 200kb of mem in BT4 by doing it that way |
| 11:19.56 | nevcairiel | unless of course you open the config |
| 11:20.01 | nevcairiel | then i have maybe 30kb more |
| 11:20.07 | nevcairiel | so in average, i save! |
| 11:20.08 | nevcairiel | :) |
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| 11:20.22 | sylvanaar | the code to generate a table contains the table data + code to generate it. if you return a table but the function doesnt do anything but return a table it contains, you use more memory than just defining the table |
| 11:20.35 | [Ammo] | sylvanaar: give code that proves this |
| 11:20.45 | [Ammo] | because it's not the case for us currently |
| 11:20.52 | Zhinjio | darnit |
| 11:20.53 | nevcairiel | a table in code format uses way less memory then a instanciated table |
| 11:20.57 | Zhinjio | someone messed with my uiscale |
| 11:21.32 | nevcairiel | (also for BT4, alot of the option tables are generated dynamically from pre-defined tables) |
| 11:21.43 | sylvanaar | thats totatly different |
| 11:21.51 | [Ammo] | try it with a normal static table sylv |
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| 11:22.19 | nevcairiel | Mapster does it that way too |
| 11:22.21 | nevcairiel | a static table |
| 11:22.24 | nevcairiel | or rather 4 |
| 11:22.29 | nevcairiel | for different modules |
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| 11:22.37 | nevcairiel | i saved memory when i started doing it |
| 11:22.40 | sylvanaar | prat uses static tables |
| 11:22.44 | nevcairiel | since Mapster config, you never open |
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| 11:23.18 | sylvanaar | that's what i finally decided was best, and i'm trying to convert everything to that |
| 11:23.33 | [Ammo] | you can just use a local func that returns the table |
| 11:23.37 | [Ammo] | try it and see the mem diff |
| 11:23.38 | Tifi | if memory is that much of a problem, why not use an LOD addon for the config? |
| 11:23.47 | [Ammo] | Tifi: that's ofcourse the best option |
| 11:23.47 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] i did |
| 11:23.58 | [Ammo] | without opening the config ofcourse |
| 11:24.04 | Pkekyo| | how long is the flight across the atlantic from philly? |
| 11:24.09 | [Ammo] | after opening the config ofcuorse you use more mem |
| 11:24.16 | Ellipsis | dear lord Pkekyo|, just ignore it :P |
| 11:24.25 | sylvanaar | not if you use static tables |
| 11:25.04 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 11:25.18 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 11:25.53 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: but...I can't :( |
| 11:26.51 | orionshock | i actually have a casscade of functions that make the table. in the Core i have a function that itterates over the modules calling their function that creates the module config options. granted the modules then in turn call a generator function that makes 90% of that table... |
| 11:28.09 | orionshock | tho i don't know how memory efficient that is :( |
| 11:28.20 | [Ammo] | test it |
| 11:28.28 | sylvanaar | [Ammo] here is the method i use |
| 11:28.44 | sylvanaar | it only ever uses 2 tables |
| 11:29.09 | sylvanaar | it just reuses the same table over and over |
| 11:29.21 | orionshock | eh? |
| 11:30.29 | sylvanaar | no matter how many channel options I have it only uses 2 tables for all of them |
| 11:30.49 | orionshock | there is one point of magic i that i think was in Ace2's config method, where you could define a generic model for a segment of the table then provide a list of predefined elements |
| 11:31.25 | sylvanaar | oh i left out the pastey |
| 11:31.33 | sylvanaar | http://ace.pastey.net/94947 |
| 11:31.40 | orionshock | and it would create those options for the elements from that model |
| 11:32.17 | Trell_ | http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/h/i/hirurg/anl.gif |
| 11:33.11 | orionshock | nice idea, too bad i can't use that :( |
| 11:33.36 | orionshock | if i did it that way i'd have to create yet another locale dependant lookup/reverse lookup table ;( |
| 11:33.45 | [Ammo] | it's optimization of something that shouldn't be open more than say 3 times |
| 11:33.46 | orionshock | GG Blizard ; WTB Quest ID when talking to NPC |
| 11:33.55 | [Ammo] | assumption one etc :p |
| 11:34.22 | orionshock | nevcairiel: had any reports of AceGUI elements ghosting out on the screen? |
| 11:34.30 | nevcairiel | not for a long time |
| 11:34.37 | orionshock | i've had some in beta |
| 11:34.54 | [Ammo] | nargiddley will be absolutely delighted to hear that :p |
| 11:34.57 | orionshock | the mover frame ghosts out on the screen after i close the config |
| 11:34.57 | [Ammo] | </sarcasm> |
| 11:35.08 | orionshock | err, wrong person :\ |
| 11:37.07 | orionshock | if blizzard would give us a quest ID in the quest-gossip API's and a GetQuestInfo(id) that returned completed, active, "name", "desc" that would be just awesome |
| 11:37.16 | orionshock | or just even the name and desc text |
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| 11:37.34 | orionshock | Tooltip scanning is FTL |
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| 11:39.25 | nevcairiel | [Ammo] btw i still get that stupid error on the gossip frame with SmoothQuest, that lists the Quest Level multiple times |
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| 11:39.45 | nevcairiel | only on the gossip frame, quest log is fine |
| 11:40.08 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel why do your optsetter and getters use Mapster.db.profile instead of info.handler.db.profile? |
| 11:41.02 | nevcairiel | one less table lookup? :D |
| 11:41.05 | nevcairiel | no real reason |
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| 11:48.54 | sylvanaar | here's another example: http://ace.pastey.net/94948, no getoptions function left behind that wont ever be called. Prat2 was full of these getoptions functions, and they accounted for a large portion of memory used |
| 11:50.05 | nevcairiel | well thats why i use a generic getter and setter where possible |
| 11:50.29 | nevcairiel | in Mapster thats like everywhere |
| 11:50.36 | nevcairiel | BT4 needs some special cases |
| 11:50.40 | nevcairiel | due to complex options |
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| 11:50.56 | nevcairiel | But its one option table thats the same for all bars |
| 11:51.41 | sb | nevcairiel: BT4 seems to have some serious problems, but i dont know if they are already fixed, got some old svn version |
| 11:51.59 | sb | i cant change spells in my primary bar (bar 1) |
| 11:52.12 | nevcairiel | update :p |
| 11:52.19 | sb | well, i CAN change them, but it doesnt do anything till next reload |
| 11:52.22 | sb | ah okay, already fixed? :p |
| 11:52.28 | nevcairiel | i bet you used auto-assist |
| 11:52.30 | nevcairiel | right? |
| 11:52.35 | sb | mhh yes |
| 11:52.39 | nevcairiel | thats fixed |
| 11:52.42 | nevcairiel | stupid error =P |
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| 11:54.57 | sylvanaar | i wish that I could define inheritable name and desc values like I can for get/set |
| 11:55.04 | dodga | whoever wrote the script for Bleach, he or she needs to get a good old fashioned stoning |
| 11:57.09 | sylvanaar | and that I could register subsections of an options table, and still allow them to inherit from the root of the table |
| 11:58.13 | sylvanaar | i could get rid of the 4 get/set's on the subtables in http://ace.pastey.net/94950 |
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| 12:04.27 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: euh? |
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| 12:05.17 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: beta or live? |
| 12:16.39 | Fisker- | finally a rollback that's actually awesome |
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| 12:24.11 | Ellipsis | max size of a UI texture is 512x512, right? |
| 12:24.27 | [Ammo] | wasn't it just any multiple of X? |
| 12:24.56 | Ellipsis | only powers of two, but there are upper and lower limits as well |
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| 12:28.59 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: both actually |
| 12:29.21 | nevcairiel | but i've been more questing on beta, tbh : |
| 12:29.58 | Fisker- | in wotlk atleast there are loading screen textures @ 1024x1024 >:3 |
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| 12:31.14 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: I've never noticed it |
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| 12:52.13 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: well at least in beta its happening all the time |
| 12:52.35 | [Ammo] | ok |
| 12:52.39 | [Ammo] | must be beta then |
| 12:52.42 | [Ammo] | I don't have the issue on live |
| 12:53.48 | Fisker- | what issue? >:3 |
| 12:54.59 | jnwhiteh | did they change the texture size limitations? |
| 12:55.04 | jnwhiteh | it most certainly has always been 512x512 |
| 12:55.09 | jnwhiteh | is it really loading bigger textures? |
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| 12:56.14 | Fisker- | i know they changed the loading screens to 1024x1024 |
| 12:56.17 | Fisker- | but don't know if that's related |
| 12:56.37 | jnwhiteh | what were they before? |
| 12:56.42 | Fisker- | 512x512 |
| 12:56.46 | jnwhiteh | interesting |
| 12:56.48 | jnwhiteh | worth trying :P |
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| 12:59.43 | Elkano | ~seen jayhawk |
| 12:59.47 | purl | i haven't seen 'jayhawk', Elkano |
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| 13:12.31 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: ping |
| 13:12.45 | Pkekyo| | ~seen Stanzilla |
| 13:12.46 | purl | stanzilla is currently on #wowuidev (6d 13h 48m 13s) #wowace (6d 13h 48m 13s) #curseforge (6d 13h 48m 13s). Has said a total of 98 messages. Is idling for 4h 38m 14s, last said: 'it's sad that the BF author vanished into the dark :('. |
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| 13:37.45 | Tifi | <wowaddon:stable>false</wowaddon:stable> in latest-noext.xml, what does this mean? |
| 13:39.03 | nevcairiel | its not used |
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| 13:39.12 | nevcairiel | was a place holder, but never implremented |
| 13:39.13 | nevcairiel | -r |
| 13:40.09 | Tifi | mkay thx |
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| 13:43.19 | sb | meh nevcairiel - could you do some LibGuildPositions module for mapster? :) |
| 13:43.39 | nevcairiel | no |
| 13:43.47 | nevcairiel | use HandyNotes + HandyNotes_Guild |
| 13:44.08 | sb | is HandyNotes_Guild compatible to LGP? |
| 13:44.14 | nevcairiel | yes it uses it |
| 13:44.18 | sb | ah okay |
| 13:44.51 | sb | well its already some module/plugin then!? :o |
| 13:45.27 | nevcairiel | not for mapster =P |
| 13:45.49 | sb | then some generic map plugin, doesnt matter :P |
| 13:49.37 | p3lim | ~seen vhaarr |
| 13:49.40 | purl | vhaarr <n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 27d 21h 45m 45s ago, saying: 'Kaelten: ah, well I can poke you from time to time :P'. |
| 13:49.46 | p3lim | that guy is never here |
| 13:50.12 | Xinhuan | ~seen rabbit |
| 13:50.12 | purl | rabbit <n=rabbit@LSt-Amand-152-33-1-196.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #tomcat, 224d 2h 57s ago, saying: 'Hi'. |
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| 13:51.23 | p3lim | he goes by vhaarr |
| 13:51.31 | jnwhiteh | so when you download the BC installer |
| 13:51.40 | jnwhiteh | you need normal WoW installed first in order to install it? |
| 13:51.48 | p3lim | yes |
| 13:52.00 | jnwhiteh | gah okay |
| 13:52.03 | Ironhand | I'm looking for a simple paladin blessings addon, that is, without all the extensive group management features ZOMGBuffs and PallyPower offer (as I don't play my paladin in raids anyway). does anyone know of such an addon? |
| 13:52.11 | p3lim | TBC is like a content patch, nothing more |
| 13:52.23 | jnwhiteh | sokay |
| 13:52.51 | jnwhiteh | installing on my laptop in wine |
| 13:52.54 | Zyndrome | group management features? in my PallyPower? |
| 13:53.02 | Zyndrome | like switching buffs for classes is hard |
| 13:53.09 | p3lim | should get *nix on my laptop too :/ |
| 13:53.14 | p3lim | any suggestions? |
| 13:53.24 | EvilJohn | virtualbox + ubuntu |
| 13:53.38 | Zyndrome | SuSe , for self agony |
| 13:53.59 | p3lim | im a total noob when it comes to that tho', only experience ive got is (ed)ubuntu on the comps at my old school |
| 13:54.37 | jnwhiteh | I've heard wow is faster under wine, will be interesting to see |
| 13:54.37 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 13:55.01 | p3lim | not gonna play much wow on that laptop |
| 13:55.10 | jnwhiteh | me neither |
| 13:55.12 | jnwhiteh | but wanna see :P |
| 13:55.20 | p3lim | doubth it can handle it (p3, 512mb ram, shitty gfxcard) |
| 13:55.30 | p3lim | 20gb hdd (lol) |
| 13:55.58 | p3lim | some old shit from y2k or so |
| 13:56.01 | Ironhand | Zyndrome: I'm thinking mostly of an addon that would remember the last blessing I cast on every player and allow me to recast it, but not have an elaborate window I have to assign them to begin with, such as PP does |
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| 14:01.19 | KriLL3 | I love how the RSS/iTunes feeds of BlizzCast are a couple days or so late... |
| 14:02.06 | KriLL3 | are they updating the .xml manually using morse code when the planets have the right alignment? |
| 14:02.22 | Kalroth | They're using 3 lazy peons to update them. |
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| 14:04.55 | KriLL3 | peons can't spell |
| 14:08.10 | Kalroth | zug zug |
| 14:09.54 | Zeksie | Ironhand: Just use ZOMGBuffs anyway. You don't need to use any of the group management stuff, you can just use it to remember and repeat the buffs you do, which sounds like what you want to do |
| 14:10.03 | Zeksie | and it won't clutter your screen |
| 14:10.52 | Zenom | is Chronometer not being maintained anymore? |
| 14:10.59 | Ironhand | Zeksie: is there a way to hide the ZOMGBuffs icon and still use it easily? b/c from trying it out I remember that icon doing my head in most of the time... |
| 14:11.14 | Zeksie | yeah, display options, icon, enable |
| 14:11.22 | Ironhand | ok thanks |
| 14:11.41 | Zeksie | although, you might re-consider that, as most ppl find it v. helpful :) |
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| 14:12.38 | Zeksie | anyway. easy WotLK question. My LibStub(libname) calls are not loading the said libraries (LoadAddOn) as they should do, any one having same problem? Have pulled off the latest Ace2/Ace3 from branches.. but... meh :) |
| 14:12.53 | nevcairiel | LibStub never loaded addons |
| 14:13.17 | Zeksie | no... but if you have acelib for example, doesn't it override it's behaviour and then do that. |
| 14:13.21 | Zeksie | else, what's the point. |
| 14:13.24 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: moo |
| 14:13.32 | Fisker- | [Ammo] |
| 14:13.34 | nevcairiel | LibStub is just a versioning stub |
| 14:13.36 | nevcairiel | not more |
| 14:13.38 | Fisker- | your fishing addon should learn2ai |
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| 14:13.50 | nevcairiel | you need to OptDep libraries |
| 14:13.55 | Zeksie | i do. |
| 14:14.08 | Fisker- | Zeksie! |
| 14:14.09 | Zeksie | it all works perfectly in TBC wow, but not LK wow |
| 14:14.13 | nevcairiel | also, OptDep requires LoD Libraries to have a 30000 .toc |
| 14:14.14 | Fisker- | bestest friend, etc. |
| 14:14.27 | Zeksie | ooooooooooooooooh... that'd be why then |
| 14:14.34 | Zeksie | it ignores the 'load out of date' ? |
| 14:15.24 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 14:15.30 | Zeksie | how awkward.. |
| 14:15.35 | Zeksie | thx :) |
| 14:16.33 | Zeksie | wassup Fisker- ;) |
| 14:16.46 | Fisker- | just saying o hai |
| 14:16.58 | Zeksie | ok. sounded like you wanted me to .... DO something.. :p |
| 14:17.27 | Cheads | nevcairiel: have you managed to test Mapster with wotlk beta yet? |
| 14:17.30 | KriLL3 | IP over avian carriers, CPIP (carrier pigeon internet protocol) is a mature technology, I'm guessing that's what Blizz is updating BlizzCast with |
| 14:17.31 | Fisker- | some people are stupid |
| 14:17.38 | nevcairiel | Cheads: sure works fine |
| 14:17.46 | Cheads | nice |
| 14:17.46 | Fisker- | whining over people only using 1 elixir because there is no other elixir that actually boost them |
| 14:17.50 | Fisker- | other than perhaps hp |
| 14:17.56 | Fisker- | and then guess who's whining |
| 14:17.58 | Fisker- | HUNTERS |
| 14:18.09 | Fisker- | like you're not already saving flasks worth of money by FD'ing |
| 14:18.11 | Fisker- | gtfo |
| 14:18.13 | Cheads | nevcairiel: then we just need the level indicators :O) |
| 14:18.41 | vithos | elixir of major mageblood |
| 14:18.51 | KriLL3 | I love how FD was a druid ability in the beta and they gave it to the damn hunters... |
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| 14:19.02 | dafire | hi |
| 14:19.05 | dafire | heeeelp |
| 14:19.53 | KriLL3 | hi |
| 14:20.05 | dafire | MouseIsOver() is not working for me if the interface options window is open .. |
| 14:21.22 | Ironhand | Zeksie: ok, installed ZOMGBuffs again... found the option to disable the icon, but I can't quite find how to call up the buff list without having the icon enabled... how do I do that? |
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| 14:24.52 | Zeksie | if you mean the raid popup list, they're tied together. and have to be bacause it's a secure template, so needs to be triggered by another secure tempalte (on the icon). |
| 14:25.04 | Zeksie | but, you don't need that popup to buff ppl |
| 14:25.19 | Zeksie | can change stuff from the minimap icon dropdown |
| 14:25.30 | Ironhand | how do I buff people without it, then? |
| 14:25.33 | Zeksie | or just buff ppl manually, and it'll remember what buff on what class etc. |
| 14:25.37 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: ping |
| 14:25.46 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: pong |
| 14:25.54 | Zeksie | just enable mousewheel buffing and it'll auto buff when ppl need stuff, out of combat |
| 14:26.09 | Ironhand | ok, I'll try that, thanks |
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| 14:26.44 | Zeksie | New X-Perl for beta posted on the usual sites for anyone that cares, just fixed the combo stuff |
| 14:26.57 | Pkekyo| | Stanzilla: what's with trying to haxxor my nick? |
| 14:27.07 | Stanzilla | Pkekyo|: O.o? |
| 14:27.26 | Pkekyo| | NickServ1 failed login since Aug 28 12:55:57 2008. |
| 14:27.26 | Pkekyo| | NickServLast failed attempt from: Stanzilla!n=Stan@irc.kuja.in on Aug 27 17:49:34 2008. |
| 14:27.35 | Stanzilla | lol! |
| 14:27.49 | Stanzilla | I did /ns ghost your nick when you pasted your password to the channel :P |
| 14:27.57 | Pkekyo| | bastard |
| 14:28.34 | Stanzilla | indeed |
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| 14:35.38 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 14:35.44 | Fisker- | i sure pissed off some hunters and warlocks now |
| 14:35.58 | AckisWork | why so serious Fisker-? |
| 14:36.16 | Fisker- | was a hunter that started whining about some people only using 1 elixir instead of 2 |
| 14:36.26 | Fisker- | even though those people have nothing to gain from a second elixir |
| 14:36.54 | Fisker- | so i told him it was lame that there was people who avoids repair costs |
| 14:37.16 | Fisker- | i pretty much obvious trolled every hunter and warlock in the guild |
| 14:37.16 | AckisWork | ohh I see what you did there |
| 14:37.33 | Vulcanus | and rogue :p |
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| 14:37.44 | Fisker- | nah |
| 14:37.53 | Fisker- | pretty hard as a rogue imo |
| 14:37.55 | Zyndrome | looks for his cyanide caps |
| 14:38.00 | Fisker- | atleast compared to hunters |
| 14:38.15 | Chompers | get out fisker, right now |
| 14:38.17 | Fisker- | though there are even some people running around with some stupid offhand or something that can kill you |
| 14:38.23 | Fisker- | without incurring repair loss |
| 14:38.37 | Fisker- | "waah wah i lost 5G to repairs" |
| 14:38.40 | Fisker- | gg get over it |
| 14:39.26 | KriLL3 | I'm the tank, I need repairs after every raid/instance, I don't whine about it |
| 14:39.50 | Cheads | Fisker- do you play a Troll Hunter? =) |
| 14:40.09 | Fisker- | i have a troll hunter |
| 14:40.27 | Cheads | =) |
| 14:40.28 | Fisker- | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Ravencrest&n=Trollforfood <-quite possibly the best hunter ever |
| 14:40.51 | Cheads | untalented.. says it all! |
| 14:41.06 | Fisker- | haven't played it for years :P |
| 14:41.11 | KriLL3 | that should be a mandatory title |
| 14:41.33 | KriLL3 | Trollforfood the Untalented |
| 14:42.09 | Cheads | only very few get that title =) |
| 14:43.35 | ckknight | how's everyone doing this fine morning? |
| 14:43.42 | Fisker- | :D KriLL3 |
| 14:43.43 | Zenom | good, you? |
| 14:43.52 | phyber | awesomes. |
| 14:44.02 | Fisker- | he was my sacrifice KriLL3 |
| 14:44.07 | KriLL3 | ckknight: annoyed at the blizzcast rss/itunes feeds being horribly outdated |
| 14:44.16 | Fisker- | had him renamed to check if unit guids stay the same after namechanges |
| 14:44.34 | ckknight | KriLL3: don't worry, this whole internet thing is just a fad anyway. |
| 14:44.41 | KriLL3 | agreed |
| 14:44.51 | ckknight | Zenom: I'm swell... no, peachy keen. |
| 14:45.45 | Zenom | So i wish there was an easier place to find pitbull layouts :) |
| 14:45.54 | Zenom | instead of sorting through that thread |
| 14:47.23 | ckknight | Zenom: don't worry, it'll all be obsolete soon enough ;-) |
| 14:47.35 | Zenom | the thread or pitbull? |
| 14:47.37 | Zenom | lol |
| 14:47.41 | ckknight | pitbull |
| 14:47.45 | Zenom | oh noes |
| 14:47.53 | ckknight | yea, I'm rewriting it |
| 14:47.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 14:48.24 | Zenom | <3 pitbull heh |
| 14:48.49 | *** join/#wowace Tenchworks (n=none@69.182.164.166) |
| 14:48.50 | ckknight | @project pitbull4 |
| 14:48.57 | KriLL3 | ckknight: you're trying to make it less of a menu clusterfuck I take it? (that's a technical term) |
| 14:48.59 | Repo | ckknight: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 24 hours ago |
| 14:49.05 | ckknight | ^-- |
| 14:49.07 | Fisker- | http://i36.tinypic.com/2uprbxt.jpg btw |
| 14:49.08 | ckknight | KriLL3: among other things |
| 14:49.36 | Zenom | is pitbull 4 useable at all right now? |
| 14:49.41 | ckknight | no, not really |
| 14:49.52 | KriLL3 | ckknight: will it support changing graphics of some kind to denote being in a vehicle etc also? |
| 14:49.58 | AckisWork | lol Fisker- |
| 14:50.22 | ckknight | KriLL3: maybe, I dunno |
| 14:50.27 | ckknight | KriLL3: but technically vehicle = pet |
| 14:50.51 | ckknight | not sure whether I should swap player and pet in that case or just keep vehicle as your pet frame |
| 14:50.56 | KriLL3 | but the ingame UI changes when you get on a vehicle in a different way than when you have a pet |
| 14:51.02 | phyber | better take some food into battle incase the tank gets hungry and unhapy. |
| 14:51.44 | Carancu | I honestly would prefer a no swap ckknight, or make it optional, I simply don't like things moving around on my screen when I don't intend them too ;) |
| 14:51.44 | ckknight | KriLL3: yea, I know. I've not decided how to handle it yet, and I can always tack something on later. Getting options done is the next step |
| 14:51.52 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 14:51.54 | p3lim | the new vehicle stuff is just an upgrade to possess-bar, am I right? |
| 14:51.56 | ckknight | Carancu: yea, I'd have an option anyway |
| 14:52.08 | ckknight | p3lim: basically. |
| 14:52.21 | p3lim | then it should still stay as pet |
| 14:52.24 | Carancu | I love what you have written so far of Pitbull 4 though. |
| 14:53.08 | ckknight | yea |
| 14:53.13 | ckknight | feel free to critique my code, btw |
| 14:53.19 | ckknight | or read through it |
| 14:53.23 | ckknight | it's well documented |
| 14:54.11 | KriLL3 | I don't like the font |
| 14:54.15 | ckknight | no u |
| 15:05.04 | sb | ckknight: do you still work on PB4? looking forward to it :o |
| 15:05.26 | sb | and btw, herb gathering for inscription sucks :( |
| 15:05.48 | Xinhuan | got a leveling guide for inscription? |
| 15:05.54 | ckknight | sb: yes, as I was just talking about it and telling people to critique my code :-P |
| 15:06.18 | sb | no Xinhuan, i just gather everything i can get (herbalism + auction house) :P |
| 15:06.35 | Fisker- | meh |
| 15:06.42 | Fisker- | isn't that hard to level inscription |
| 15:06.42 | sb | Xinhuan: i think i will be prepared: http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kraeutercharol0.png :p |
| 15:06.45 | sb | more to come :p |
| 15:06.49 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 15:07.02 | Xinhuan | 130k gold should be enough for me ;p |
| 15:07.04 | sb | and i dont need that much - i dont care, prices are going to be 10 times higher than now :p |
| 15:07.12 | Fisker- | you overstocked sb |
| 15:07.29 | Xinhuan | overstoking means he can sell them |
| 15:07.30 | sb | Fisker-: i dont care :p |
| 15:07.31 | Xinhuan | for a profit |
| 15:07.33 | sb | correct |
| 15:07.34 | Fisker- | Basically you can level inscription at the same rate you're leveling herbalism |
| 15:07.43 | sb | not sure about that |
| 15:07.46 | Fisker- | i am |
| 15:07.49 | Fisker- | since i already did it |
| 15:07.49 | sb | because of 'luck' factor when milling!? |
| 15:07.50 | Fisker- | duh |
| 15:08.02 | Fisker- | well sure |
| 15:08.07 | KriLL3 | why doesn't blizz add a vendor somewhere that sells the glyphs so we can at least try em out? or aren't they done yet? |
| 15:08.08 | Fisker- | but luck can only account for so much |
| 15:08.11 | Xinhuan | what's milling |
| 15:08.17 | Fisker- | like prospecting |
| 15:08.20 | sb | Xinhuan: prospectiong for inscription |
| 15:08.20 | Fisker- | but for herbs |
| 15:08.22 | sb | prospecting even |
| 15:08.28 | Fisker- | not gonna go inscription though |
| 15:08.33 | Xinhuan | so you mill herbs into..? |
| 15:08.37 | Fisker- | They announced flying carpet for tailoring :( |
| 15:08.42 | Megalon | into ink i think? |
| 15:08.44 | Fisker- | pomace |
| 15:08.49 | Fisker- | which is then made into ink |
| 15:09.00 | Megalon | ah, or that way ;> |
| 15:09.04 | Fisker- | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=pomace |
| 15:09.32 | sb | Fisker-: but since _lots_ of people will switch to inscription - herb selling is going to be nice :) |
| 15:10.08 | Fisker- | perhaps |
| 15:10.14 | Fisker- | but i'm going for the flying carpet |
| 15:10.21 | *** join/#wowace nocts|work (n=train@nat-112.sea.ygnition.net) |
| 15:10.25 | Fisker- | or inscription is going to have to really convince me when they get done |
| 15:10.27 | ulic | yea need to start stocking up on herbs soon before the prices go up too much. |
| 15:10.29 | sb | and i have 2 people who want to push some herb char - so they send me all their gathered herbs from leveling |
| 15:10.41 | Fisker- | nah ulic |
| 15:10.46 | sb | so lucky me :p |
| 15:10.50 | Fisker- | just gonna use an alt for farming it |
| 15:11.16 | ulic | Fisker-: yea, but I'm lazy, and I don't find farming so fun. But I'm sure I'll do some of it. |
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| 15:19.41 | *** join/#wowace I440r (n=mark4@ip68-98-112-180.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:20.04 | I440r | is there any mod that will allow me to place a pin on the map for my current location so that i can remember that location? |
| 15:20.26 | I440r | maybe that will allow me to save a note about the location? |
| 15:20.31 | nevcairiel | I440r: HandyNotes does that |
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| 15:20.37 | I440r | yea? |
| 15:20.45 | I440r | u can mark the map? |
| 15:20.54 | nevcairiel | yup, you can place markers on the map and write a short note |
| 15:21.11 | nevcairiel | "Quest XY mob is here" |
| 15:21.12 | nevcairiel | or so :) |
| 15:21.59 | dodga | Or "ganked nevcairiel's twink until he relogged here" :> |
| 15:22.10 | I440r | ty :) |
| 15:22.12 | nevcairiel | I'm ungankable, hahahaha |
| 15:22.20 | nevcairiel | (because i play on a pve realm) |
| 15:22.25 | I440r | a guildie was asking and for SOME reason everyone thinks im the resident addon expert... lol |
| 15:22.29 | dodga | prfft, pansy |
| 15:22.43 | dodga | pve realms |
| 15:22.52 | dodga | y so srs? |
| 15:23.46 | charon | ~nickometer I440r |
| 15:23.47 | charon | (argh... the temptation...) |
| 15:24.04 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 15:24.11 | Fisker- | ~nickometer I440 |
| 15:24.11 | Pneumatus | pve is srs bsnss |
| 15:24.17 | Fisker- | ~nickometer 440 |
| 15:24.32 | Fisker- | ~nickometer I440r1337_¤$£ |
| 15:24.35 | dodga | ~nickometer charon |
| 15:24.37 | Fisker- | close |
| 15:24.42 | Fisker- | ~nickometer I440r1337_¤$@$@$@$€{£][]€]£€}£ |
| 15:24.44 | dodga | That's hardcoded! |
| 15:24.52 | Fisker- | ~nickometer 1337_¤$@$@$@$€{£][]€]£€}£ |
| 15:24.58 | Fisker- | ~nickometer ¤$@$@$@$€{£][]€]£€}£ |
| 15:24.58 | dodga | ~nickometer purl |
| 15:24.59 | nevcairiel | you cant get 100% =P |
| 15:25.03 | Fisker- | bah |
| 15:25.05 | dodga | That too. |
| 15:25.08 | Fisker- | ~nickmeter nevcairiel |
| 15:25.09 | purl | nevcairiel is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 15:25.11 | charon | sighs |
| 15:25.12 | Fisker- | looks like i could |
| 15:25.16 | nevcairiel | wrong one! |
| 15:25.19 | charon | what have i started... |
| 15:25.21 | Fisker- | no u nevcairiel |
| 15:25.55 | Fisker- | ~nickometer |
| 15:26.05 | Fisker- | ~nickometer  |
| 15:26.24 | Fisker- | ~literal nickometer |
| 15:26.36 | Fisker- | ugh |
| 15:26.41 | Fisker- | can't remember the shit i have to write |
| 15:26.42 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 15:27.27 | Adirelle|work | ~nickometer Fisker- |
| 15:27.35 | Zenom | i want to redo my ui but no idea what i want it to look like heh |
| 15:27.47 | Adirelle|work | ~nickometer Adirelle |
| 15:27.52 | Adirelle|work | ~nickmeter Adirelle |
| 15:27.53 | purl | Adirelle is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 15:28.04 | Adirelle|work | ~nickmeter I440r |
| 15:28.04 | purl | I440r is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 15:28.08 | Adirelle|work | ... |
| 15:28.16 | nevcairiel | nickmeter is hardcoded |
| 15:28.20 | I440r | thats a DUMBASS addon |
| 15:28.24 | nevcairiel | nickometer uses a algorithm |
| 15:28.24 | Adirelle|work | ok |
| 15:28.29 | I440r | I440r is Ibanez 440 radius |
| 15:28.34 | I440r | NOT leet speek at all |
| 15:28.37 | I440r | jackass |
| 15:28.47 | Adirelle|work | anyway, gotta go |
| 15:28.48 | Adirelle|work | later |
| 15:28.52 | nevcairiel | its still a lame nick, imho |
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| 15:29.01 | nevcairiel | cant even pronounce it |
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| 15:31.42 | charon | I440r: that very cool and level-headed reaction just earned you the other 1.6% |
| 15:32.32 | I440r | the entire nick metering concept is a way of telling people fuck you and your nick |
| 15:32.38 | I440r | fuck you and your dumbass bot |
| 15:32.44 | I440r | but thanks for the help |
| 15:33.05 | dodga | Hehe |
| 15:33.42 | AckisWork | lol wow |
| 15:33.57 | Xinhuan | i rofled |
| 15:35.05 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: Ravenholdt (3040/12000) Darkmoon Faire (4350/6000) |
| 15:35.16 | Xinhuan | i have 2 storms deck waiting to turn in |
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| 15:35.28 | Xinhuan | 6520/12000 ravenholdt |
| 15:35.38 | Xinhuan | 2500/6000 darkmoon |
| 15:35.40 | AckisWork | I have 4 warlords and 3 elementals, and I'm missing 1/2 cards from 4-5 more decks |
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| 15:35.52 | Xinhuan | its the aces that i can't get lol |
| 15:35.53 | AckisWork | have you started turning in junkboxes yet? |
| 15:35.56 | Xinhuan | no |
| 15:35.59 | Xinhuan | i have 650 boxes |
| 15:36.14 | AckisWork | ace of elementals is the easiest IMO |
| 15:36.18 | AckisWork | hardest is ace of beasts |
| 15:36.22 | Xinhuan | they also cost only 20g |
| 15:36.36 | AckisWork | decks? |
| 15:36.38 | AckisWork | or aces? |
| 15:37.07 | Xinhuan | aces |
| 15:37.08 | Fisker- | slaps AckisWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:37.36 | AckisWork | ahh aces on my server are 100-200g... I've been paying 125g for ace of warlords, and I farm the elementals myself |
| 15:38.22 | AckisWork | when I turn in my decks I'll be 800/12000 darkmoon faire, hopefully I'll get a few more decks before the faire starts |
| 15:39.08 | nocts|work | Fisker-: If it isn't RFC compliant, resubmit it properly, respect the comments, and return with an RFC compliant product. |
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| 15:39.29 | nocts|work | hands Fisker- the RFC compliance for a trout. |
| 15:40.05 | nocts|work | l44or? The hell did I miss? |
| 15:40.15 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: you're grinding about 1k a rep a night it looks like... that's super boring :P |
| 15:40.28 | Xinhuan | i did 2k yesterday and 2k today |
| 15:40.35 | Xinhuan | and about 1k in lockboxes |
| 15:40.37 | Xinhuan | so its more like 3k |
| 15:40.54 | AckisWork | that's crazy |
| 15:40.56 | AckisWork | :P |
| 15:41.13 | AckisWork | I stop around 1200 a day, 10% a day is good enough for me |
| 15:41.15 | Xinhuan | at least i have the capital for darkmoon |
| 15:41.24 | Xinhuan | 1200 is only 3% |
| 15:41.26 | Xinhuan | not 10% |
| 15:41.33 | AckisWork | 1200/12000 |
| 15:41.37 | Xinhuan | every 420 rep is 1% |
| 15:41.40 | Xinhuan | cos you need 42000 in total |
| 15:41.41 | AckisWork | I'm looking at it in phases |
| 15:41.59 | AckisWork | because once I hit 11999/12000 I don't need to kill anymore mobs |
| 15:42.15 | Xinhuan | i do 1% a day initially |
| 15:42.17 | AckisWork | then I just get to play in AV which is more fun IMO |
| 15:42.18 | Xinhuan | now i do like 5% a day |
| 15:42.39 | Xinhuan | i'm fairly popular though, so there's 4 horde camping me in durnhold keep right now |
| 15:42.43 | AckisWork | I don't have enough bank space to hold junkboxes |
| 15:42.46 | Xinhuan | so i logged off and hope it takes them 1 hour |
| 15:42.53 | Xinhuan | to figure out i'm on my rogue in AV |
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| 15:43.02 | AckisWork | ugh that's so annoying all the lowbie horde doing those quests |
| 15:43.10 | Fisker- | i require additional moneys from you Xinhuan |
| 15:43.10 | Xinhuan | 4 lvl 70 horde camping me |
| 15:43.12 | Xinhuan | not lvl 22s |
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| 15:43.24 | AckisWork | no the lowbies are worse because they kill my mobs |
| 15:43.29 | Xinhuan | i killed 2 of them 6 times each at tarren mill earlier |
| 15:43.33 | Xinhuan | just cos they were easy to kill |
| 15:43.37 | Xinhuan | lvl 70 priest and lock |
| 15:43.40 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:43.44 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you have an alt? no way! |
| 15:43.48 | AckisWork | I had a 69 rogue try to jump me |
| 15:43.59 | AckisWork | I laughed at him while I grinded more rep |
| 15:44.16 | Xinhuan | yeah my alt finally reached 70 |
| 15:44.18 | Xinhuan | after 1 year |
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| 15:44.30 | nocts|work | I want to build a new UI for my leveling shaman, but it's depressing that most of that work will be demolished in a few months. |
| 15:44.50 | AckisWork | don't alts suck? |
| 15:45.04 | ag` | nocts|work: build it using wotlk compatible addons? |
| 15:45.06 | Xinhuan | kinda |
| 15:46.15 | Xinhuan | omg AV daily, perfect |
| 15:46.18 | Xinhuan | AV weekend too |
| 15:46.20 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:46.23 | AckisWork | oh it is? |
| 15:46.25 | AckisWork | wicked |
| 15:46.26 | Xinhuan | tomorrow |
| 15:46.27 | Xinhuan | onwards |
| 15:46.29 | nevcairiel | its weekend already? |
| 15:46.30 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 15:46.31 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 15:46.31 | AckisWork | I might max my honor out on my rogue then |
| 15:46.39 | Xinhuan | that's why i'm trying to reach 11999/12000 |
| 15:46.40 | AckisWork | my rogue has 2k honor saved :P |
| 15:46.41 | Xinhuan | before tomorrow |
| 15:46.50 | Xinhuan | cos 650 junkboxes in my mail |
| 15:46.52 | Xinhuan | 12 per mail |
| 15:46.53 | nocts|work | ag`: I'm seeing a lot of the mods I use have separate releases. Such as dominos, and similar. |
| 15:46.54 | AckisWork | dude just abuse the mail system |
| 15:46.56 | Xinhuan | and its already 40 pages deep |
| 15:47.03 | AckisWork | ahh lol you're already abusing the mail system :P |
| 15:47.17 | Xinhuan | i abused my entire 4th tab of my guild bank |
| 15:47.21 | Xinhuan | for my darkmoon faire cards |
| 15:47.32 | Xinhuan | then again, i paid for the tab, so its mine anyway |
| 15:47.37 | AckisWork | I should create another bank alt |
| 15:47.52 | ag` | nocts|work: 99% of them uses the same SVs as the live version. So build the UI on live, when wotlk comes copy over your WTF dir and update the addons to their wotlk versions. Easy! |
| 15:48.13 | Fisker- | slaps ag` around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:48.23 | Xinhuan | i tell my rogue guildies, 2g per lockbox as well |
| 15:48.32 | ag` | stop spam Fisker- |
| 15:48.53 | Fisker- | i never spam |
| 15:49.37 | KriLL3 | I'm an engineer, I don't need a lockpicker >:) |
| 15:49.47 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: I tell the lowbie rogues 50s a junkbox when I see them in durnhold heh |
| 15:49.53 | KriLL3 | I wounder how the content of the box remains intact after blowing it up... |
| 15:49.59 | Xinhuan | well see, i'm alliance |
| 15:50.01 | Xinhuan | so i can't do that |
| 15:50.12 | AckisWork | you just kill them lol |
| 15:50.14 | AckisWork | http://www.illidrama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16737 |
| 15:50.18 | Xinhuan | nah i don't kill them |
| 15:50.25 | Xinhuan | i leave them alone and they leave after 5 min |
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| 15:52.16 | AckisWork | Fisker-: http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/jthees/lolcats/Serious-Cat-Joker.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/jthees/lolcats/Serious-Cat-Joker.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/jthees/lolcats/Serious-Cat-Joker.jpg http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh172/jthees/lolcats/Serious-Cat-Joker.jpg |
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| 15:55.14 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz ! |
| 15:55.24 | Gnarfoz | yespls |
| 15:55.49 | Fisker- | you be making drdamage amirite? |
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| 15:56.12 | Dark_Elf | mercy that broker_raidtargets puts alot of things on the screen with purty graphics but i dont see what it does |
| 15:56.22 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: that's Gagorian, I think. |
| 15:56.37 | Fisker- | blargh |
| 15:56.44 | Fisker- | i remembered it was something with G |
| 15:56.48 | Fisker- | Gagorian i summon thee |
| 15:57.04 | Gnarfoz | clicks teh portal |
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| 15:58.51 | Fisker- | Gagorian isn't accepting :( |
| 15:59.08 | dodga | afkbotting? |
| 15:59.24 | Fisker- | i think so |
| 15:59.36 | dodga | "Report AFK" |
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| 16:16.54 | Zenom | Is chronogropher not supported anymore? |
| 16:17.03 | Zenom | chromometer or whatever it was |
| 16:17.12 | Zenom | grr spelling today sucks |
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| 16:21.32 | AckisWork | best mod ever: http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/13400/ ahahahahahhahahahahaha |
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| 16:22.17 | dodga | Shameless self-advertisement? :> |
| 16:23.09 | sacarasc | don't think ackis did that one |
| 16:23.23 | KriLL3 | "A small mod which will display Chuck Norris facts to you and output to selected chat channels. Has anti-spam mechanisms built in." how can a mod dedicated to spamming have anti-spam built in? |
| 16:23.33 | AckisWork | dodga: yes :) |
| 16:23.44 | AckisWork | KriLL3: I'm a responsible addon author |
| 16:23.49 | dodga | Excellent, carry on. :> |
| 16:23.53 | AckisWork | I love CNF, but people could abuse it lol |
| 16:24.15 | AckisWork | it's set up so the only person that you can spam is yourself |
| 16:24.16 | KriLL3 | It's nice that a lot of chat addons have "no chuch norris spam" options |
| 16:24.35 | Dark_Elf | invasion usa, chuck norris went on a f word rant |
| 16:24.53 | sacarasc | lol, friction |
| 16:25.13 | nocts|work | KriLL3: Kind of like a truck having measures of protection against being hit by other trucks? |
| 16:25.32 | AckisWork | nocts|work: They do: seatbelts :P |
| 16:25.46 | Fisker- | Antiarc does sanity not suck btw? >:3 |
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| 16:25.56 | Gnarfoz | seatbelts do not protect against collisions with other trucks. |
| 16:26.00 | nocts|work | ^ |
| 16:26.09 | nocts|work | Rollcages and model design does. |
| 16:26.17 | Gnarfoz | nope. |
| 16:26.23 | nocts|work | Women in the truck? |
| 16:26.25 | AckisWork | some of the CNF are pretty funny, some of them are lame |
| 16:26.28 | Gnarfoz | more likely :D |
| 16:26.31 | nocts|work | rofl |
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| 16:26.39 | nocts|work | Thus why something intended to do general spam can also have anti-spam measures for it's own. |
| 16:26.42 | Gnarfoz | neon yellow paint or something |
| 16:26.48 | AckisWork | I'm going to add a auto function which will spam automatically for yourself only |
| 16:26.55 | nocts|work | Chances are the Chuck Norris fact discloser has women inside of it to prevent spam. |
| 16:27.02 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: log out of beta damnit, I want in. |
| 16:27.14 | AckisWork | it's not supposed to be for spam :P it's entertainment |
| 16:27.30 | AckisWork | Chuck Norris Fact + Pirate Speak + Molten Core + Drunk Raiding Night = WIN |
| 16:27.51 | sacarasc | yarrr |
| 16:28.07 | AckisWork | haveing pirate speak with the facts is funny as hell |
| 16:28.08 | Gnarfoz | when's pirate day, btw? |
| 16:29.11 | KriLL3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_like_a_pirate_day |
| 16:29.21 | KriLL3 | wikipedia in your searchbar ftw |
| 16:32.49 | nocts|work | How on earth do you not list a holiday's date in the first paragraph of the wiki? |
| 16:32.59 | nocts|work | Oh, how on earth did I learn not to read. |
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| 16:41.38 | kenlyric | man, really fucking nice |
| 16:41.44 | Thaoky | hello |
| 16:41.46 | kenlyric | underhud randomly creates its frame names |
| 16:42.05 | nocts|work | Hey Thaoky |
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| 16:47.26 | KriLL3 | nocts|work: it's even highlighted :> |
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| 16:48.49 | Zyndrome | OH GOD |
| 16:49.10 | Zyndrome | instantanously combusts into flames, completely random event |
| 16:49.15 | KriLL3 | Zyndrome: he's fictional, get over it |
| 16:49.42 | Zyndrome | I know, as I only use it for expression |
| 16:49.53 | Zyndrome | "OH FANTASY CREATURE" doesn't go so well |
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| 17:01.23 | Zenom | what is a good spell timer, i just want something simple to track like Flame Shock on a target |
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| 17:02.47 | nocts|work | Depends on how you want it shown. |
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| 17:04.04 | Zenom | i basically just want to keep my rotation up |
| 17:04.24 | Zenom | so i don't really care, if its something that spits something out to blizz dmg text or a bar, either way is fine |
| 17:04.31 | fewyn | Ding 77 |
| 17:05.04 | Aeyan | Huzzah |
| 17:05.10 | Aeyan | But that's not the cap anymore, go go go |
| 17:06.35 | Aeyan | Zenom: ClassTimer, Sorren's Timers, SpellReminder, Chronometer, DoTimer, DotDotDot, NECB, etc |
| 17:06.51 | Zenom | I was looking for Chronometer |
| 17:07.03 | Zenom | in my jwu, but its not there and doesn't look like it has been updated in a bit |
| 17:07.03 | KriLL3 | Quartz got it also |
| 17:07.08 | KriLL3 | I like Quartz |
| 17:07.11 | Aeyan | Oh yes, a module in Quartz too |
| 17:07.42 | Aeyan | Yeah, Chronometer still works as far as I know but the project is abandoned |
| 17:07.44 | Zenom | Sorren's doesn't show up in my ace installer either heh |
| 17:07.49 | KriLL3 | I use Quart's cast/breath/enemy castbar stuff also so it makes sense for me to use it, dunno if it's a good idea to use only that module of Quartz if you don't use the rest |
| 17:08.32 | Aeyan | Well, they used to be |
| 17:08.41 | Aeyan | They're both still on WoW Interface |
| 17:08.49 | Aeyan | I use ClassTimer myself |
| 17:10.59 | NeoTron | so I hate M'uru |
| 17:11.18 | Megalon | and he probably hates you! |
| 17:11.24 | AckisWork | tbh I hate entropius |
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| 17:12.10 | Aeyan | I hear Mu'ru is the Destroyer of Guilds, hehe |
| 17:12.20 | NeoTron | what frustrates me is that we get to 18% and 23% phase 2 last night |
| 17:12.56 | NeoTron | but that we only had 3 phase 2 (excluding one where the prot pally died right at the switch) out of 20 tries is what really bugs me |
| 17:13.25 | KriLL3 | sounds like fun |
| 17:13.41 | NeoTron | and before these 20ish percent attempts our two previous bests were 50% and 65% or so and we've only really had like 6 good phase 2 ever |
| 17:14.05 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.34 | Odlaw | yup, people suck |
| 17:25.48 | Odlaw | we have problems with tank deaths.. and dark fiends |
| 17:25.51 | Odlaw | people suck |
| 17:25.53 | Odlaw | oh.. and lds |
| 17:25.57 | Odlaw | big problem there |
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| 17:30.07 | NeoTron | lds? |
| 17:30.47 | Aeyan | Linkdeaths, I imagine |
| 17:36.40 | Zhinjio | CIA broken? |
| 17:36.43 | Zhinjio | look it |
| 17:36.58 | Zhinjio | looks like it, rather |
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| 17:49.04 | fewyn | sigh |
| 17:49.09 | fewyn | beta breaks as soon as i hit 77 |
| 17:49.10 | fewyn | bastards |
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| 17:51.42 | genetik- | ' |
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| 17:51.50 | Odlaw | what did they do with all that maint on beta servers yesterday? |
| 17:51.57 | Odlaw | no patch that i could find |
| 17:52.23 | fewyn | they fixed some issues with the server |
| 17:52.28 | fewyn | it was stable from 12-1 EST |
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| 17:52.42 | fewyn | then it died about 1 |
| 17:52.42 | fewyn | and is still dying |
| 17:52.49 | Odlaw | lawl |
| 17:52.53 | Odlaw | an hour of stability. |
| 17:52.54 | balstor | I H8 uninvited guest |
| 17:52.57 | FtH|Daemona | login servers for coldarra are dead -.- |
| 17:52.59 | balstor | http://www.stormpulse.com/tropical-storm-gustav-2008 |
| 17:53.21 | FtH|Daemona | i was online the last 7 hours, had to reboot and cant get in anymore |
| 17:55.39 | NeoTron | we have this guy who snorts and pants every time he talks on vent |
| 17:55.50 | NeoTron | it's amusing but sometimes rather annoying <pant> <pant> |
| 17:57.40 | Gnarfoz | is he at least using voice activation? :p |
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| 18:01.04 | balstor | if he is using voice activation make hime use push to talk |
| 18:02.41 | NeoTron | no no |
| 18:02.43 | NeoTron | he just snorts |
| 18:02.48 | NeoTron | and pants |
| 18:02.53 | NeoTron | after pressing PTT |
| 18:03.19 | NeoTron | snorting is when he thought he or someone else was funny ofc |
| 18:03.27 | NeoTron | he's the kind of guy that PTT to laugh in vent |
| 18:04.29 | Zyndrome | oh boy |
| 18:04.44 | Zyndrome | another night of constant wiping on M'uru with no progress what so ever |
| 18:04.52 | Zyndrome | same thing for over 2 months now |
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| 18:06.45 | Zenom | is eepanels the only panel addon? |
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| 18:07.10 | Zenom | i tried kgpanels but it didn't appear finished?? |
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| 18:09.14 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: whatever did they do to our poor Coldarra? :X |
| 18:09.39 | FtH|Daemona | i have no idea, i could play well from 1-7 pm and then decided to reboot ... |
| 18:09.52 | FtH|Daemona | only to hear on ventrilo that ppl had problems loggin in since 2pm |
| 18:10.02 | balstor | oain snorting after using the PTT button, getting a southpark visual here |
| 18:10.04 | Gnarfoz | Zenom: uhm eePanels2 is widely used, as is eePanels (1). kgPanels is just "uh I can do that shit better, yet fail at being as user-friendly", :P |
| 18:10.20 | Zenom | ah ok |
| 18:11.05 | balstor | just tried the beta server got right in no issues btw |
| 18:11.19 | Gnarfoz | yeah, sounds like "US beta" to me. |
| 18:11.32 | balstor | yhea sorry US beta |
| 18:11.50 | balstor | but our live servers were haveing issues last night :( |
| 18:12.16 | Gnarfoz | our live servers have the issue of not being beta servers :X |
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| 18:17.22 | Zenom | wtb clean shaman ui lol |
| 18:17.34 | Zenom | i just can't get into yata for some reason to clean up my totems |
| 18:20.31 | NeoTron | balstor: snorting in this case is reallly more of a weird laugh |
| 18:21.01 | NeoTron | Zyndrome: I feel your pain. we're going in our third month now and although we've progressed to 18% phase 2... we very inconsistently even make it to phase 2 |
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| 18:28.45 | vithos | so i just installed WotLK-Beta-3.0.1-enUS, and now it's downloading WoW-3.0.1-enUS-patch.exe? |
| 18:29.11 | Adirelle | Gnarfoz: login is up again |
| 18:29.25 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: thx :D |
| 18:29.33 | Adirelle | Gnarfoz: in fact, I never logged in this fast since I'm on Coldarra |
| 18:29.53 | Zyndrome | it's a bullshit boss |
| 18:29.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, only seen this kind of speed at times like... 6 hours from now |
| 18:30.24 | Zyndrome | people kill up to eredar twins with ease, and suddenly hit a near imbreakable brick wall |
| 18:30.34 | Gnarfoz | *unbreakable |
| 18:30.48 | Zyndrome | that too |
| 18:30.53 | Zyndrome | M'uru is class of his own |
| 18:30.59 | Zyndrome | is a |
| 18:31.00 | Zyndrome | FUCÅKSÖfhniopudfklögfs |
| 18:31.39 | vithos | yep, took us 7 weeks to kill m'uru |
| 18:31.53 | vithos | inconsistently making it to ~25% p2 for a while |
| 18:32.02 | vithos | the one night it just clicked and 9%, 3%, kill |
| 18:33.12 | vithos | now i get to be frustrated at our terrible dps on KJ instead :P |
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| 18:35.51 | verxion | woot |
| 18:35.59 | verxion | that was harder than most irc servers, lol |
| 18:36.04 | Adirelle | so misdirection doesn't redirect the taunt effect of distracting shot |
| 18:36.17 | Adirelle | dunno if it is a bug or a feature... |
| 18:36.34 | Zyndrome | just switch places with Muru and KJ |
| 18:36.42 | verxion | I dunno if this is the right place to talk to folks |
| 18:36.51 | verxion | but I have a couple things about grid I wanted to discuss |
| 18:37.05 | verxion | #1 I added a missing buff of "Thorns" to GridMissingBuffs |
| 18:37.23 | verxion | never made or modified a mod before, and dunno if other folks would even find it useful, but what should I do with my modifications? |
| 18:37.59 | verxion | #2 I want to make some kind of status for grid that is like the RATE of health loss. Does anyone know if Grid supports persistent variables over time to do something like that? |
| 18:38.19 | dodga | Post it in the forums in the GridStatusMissingBuffs thread and ask if it can be included? |
| 18:38.21 | verxion | ie, can I do something like keep a running tally of how much health has been lost in the last thirty seconds? |
| 18:38.40 | verxion | dodga: ok, sorry for being a total newb, but where is that forum and/or thread? |
| 18:38.54 | dodga | no biggie, wowace.com, click forums on the left |
| 18:39.06 | dodga | and then search for gridstatusmissingbuff |
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| 18:39.56 | Dashkal | What's the status of grid on WotLK? |
| 18:39.57 | dodga | About that rate thing. Of course you can sum up the incoming damage for a unit and then send a status gain/loss |
| 18:40.22 | verxion | dodga: is there an existing status that does anything similar? |
| 18:40.26 | verxion | ie, something I could use as a template |
| 18:40.28 | dodga | Depending on certain conditions. I actually don't know exactly how it works, but I'd say it's totally doable |
| 18:40.31 | verxion | really new to lua and mods in general |
| 18:40.36 | dodga | verxion: Let me check |
| 18:40.40 | verxion | thanks a ton man |
| 18:40.41 | fewyn | I BELEIVE I CAN FLY |
| 18:41.09 | dodga | verxion: For starters there is http://www.wowace.com/wiki/Grid |
| 18:41.15 | dodga | I dunno how up to date it is |
| 18:42.56 | dodga | verxion: GridStatusGroupnumber looks really simple and you could built upon that |
| 18:43.13 | verxion | thank ye |
| 18:43.51 | dodga | You'd have to register combat log events, check if the affected unit is in your raid, then update your data and depending on whatever conditions you want do self.core:SendStatusLost or self.core:SendStatusGained |
| 18:43.52 | Adirelle | fewyn: neurotoxic drugs are neurotoxic |
| 18:45.26 | CrazyBenny | whats the command for itemcheck in ora2? |
| 18:46.00 | dodga | verxion: May I ask why you would need that information? Can't think of any situations I needed it, so I'm curious :D |
| 18:46.09 | verxion | I am a resto druid |
| 18:46.17 | verxion | this may be just stupidity on my part |
| 18:46.28 | verxion | but I think it would be helpful for me to see what the rate of health loss is |
| 18:46.40 | verxion | it would let me know at a glance how many hots to leave on say the main tanks |
| 18:46.58 | verxion | how critical it is to maintain for example a 3 stack lifebloom, rejuv, AND regrowth |
| 18:47.03 | verxion | when the entire raid is taking damage |
| 18:47.09 | dodga | Hm I see |
| 18:47.13 | verxion | I am having trouble knowing if I can go raid heal sometimes |
| 18:47.25 | dodga | Did you take a look at GridStatusHealPriority? |
| 18:47.26 | Zenom | is there a way with Yata to make it show the most recently chosen totem in the window? |
| 18:48.01 | verxion | dodga: I might install it if I knew more about how it worked |
| 18:48.15 | verxion | I didn't see what its actual criterium were for determining the two highest heal priorities |
| 18:48.34 | verxion | dodga: but even so, being a HoT healer, if I switch OFF of tanks |
| 18:48.38 | verxion | to heal the highest priorities |
| 18:48.46 | verxion | the tanks will soon BECOME the highest priorites |
| 18:48.50 | verxion | priorities rather |
| 18:48.59 | verxion | and since my hots take a while to stack, I can't really catch up |
| 18:49.00 | dodga | verxion: http://wowace.com/wiki/GridStatusHealPriority -- it's a kinda complex algorithm, but you could modify that maybe |
| 18:49.11 | verxion | basically my problem is this |
| 18:49.25 | verxion | if I have a 3 stacked lifebloom, rejuv, and regrowth on each of two tanks |
| 18:49.35 | verxion | MOST of the time, they are gonna have their health pegged |
| 18:49.45 | dodga | but I see it could be more useful to know "can I switch to another target without my current one dying" rather than "who should I heal" |
| 18:49.56 | verxion | but right now I don't have the first clue how FAST their health would drop if, for example, I stopped maintaining the regrowth |
| 18:49.59 | verxion | or the rejuv |
| 18:50.03 | verxion | or the lifebloom stack |
| 18:50.28 | verxion | THAT is what I want to fix, cuz finding that information out by dropping the HoTs and the tanks dying is just not acceptable |
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| 18:50.57 | dodga | Hm I actually wonder.. on Brutallus e.g. your tank will eat 8k every second or so, so your rate would be constant until the MT switches |
| 18:51.52 | verxion | my lord man |
| 18:51.54 | verxion | that is unreal |
| 18:52.01 | verxion | I am not that far yet in progression |
| 18:52.04 | dodga | Hehe :D |
| 18:52.05 | thul | I've been superhandyman today |
| 18:52.06 | verxion | we are to ZA in my guild |
| 18:52.18 | dodga | Yeah Sunwell is really pushing it |
| 18:52.21 | verxion | we can down bear and hawk, but haven't tried the other two bosses yet |
| 18:52.43 | verxion | I am imba 204, pushing 2200 +healing, so I am not ready for sunwell yet |
| 18:53.19 | dodga | Oh I play a priest and last time I was really raid healing was pre BC, so I don't know jack about healing in BC :> |
| 18:53.27 | JerleMinara | the best part is where a 22k tank can go down in about 3 seconds on brutallus |
| 18:53.31 | dodga | I just see the lifebars of our tanks go up and down real fast |
| 18:53.35 | JerleMinara | because someone forgot to start casting their heal on the incoming |
| 18:53.35 | dodga | Or just down |
| 18:53.41 | dodga | And then the boss heading to me :D |
| 18:53.42 | JerleMinara | it's amazing |
| 18:54.08 | JerleMinara | like our main progression warrior will be at full and then 3 seconds later he's down and it's a wipe because one of my paladin friends was asleep at the helm |
| 18:54.17 | verxion | JerleMinara: if brutallis truly puts out 8k heal a second, that SOUNDS to me like a fight where you want a small army of resto druids stacking hots... |
| 18:54.24 | JerleMinara | eh no |
| 18:54.27 | JerleMinara | it's more complex than that |
| 18:54.33 | JerleMinara | hots aren't effective enough |
| 18:54.41 | dodga | verxion: Actually you want 3 dedicated healers for every tank |
| 18:54.44 | verxion | JerleMinara: I don't doubt it, but from the description I was thinking it would be a good place for hots |
| 18:54.45 | NeoTron | Brutallus does about 17k, maybe 18k, per 1.5s during stomp when not dodged/parried |
| 18:54.50 | JerleMinara | we have two tanks and 3 dedicated healers |
| 18:54.59 | JerleMinara | two paladins and a resto shaman usually me |
| 18:55.13 | JerleMinara | plus another resto shaman anchoring CH through the MT |
| 18:55.15 | dodga | CoH priests spamming the raid :o |
| 18:55.25 | NeoTron | can do >110k dmg in 10 seconds |
| 18:55.38 | verxion | so no resto druids eh? |
| 18:55.44 | verxion | am I gonna suck for progression? |
| 18:55.45 | verxion | :( |
| 18:55.54 | dodga | Wouldn't say that |
| 18:55.56 | JerleMinara | so the way it goes down is the three of us are putting the heals on the two MTs.. warrior/druid trading off.. i alternate between healingwave/chain heal as necessary, and the other shaman keeps anchoring CH through the MT and we keep them up |
| 18:56.05 | NeoTron | we use a resto druid + paladin on burn, 4 dedicated healers for the tank (1 shammy, 2 priest, 1 druid typically) and one chain healer off the MT |
| 18:56.13 | JerleMinara | resto druid for burn and raid heal usually |
| 18:56.22 | JerleMinara | it really depends on your gear and organisational level |
| 18:56.24 | NeoTron | and the tank can still die even if the healers don't mess up, because the heals were mistimed by 0.1s |
| 18:56.39 | nevcairiel | we developed a fun tactic, 3 shamans spamming chain heal on the MT, and no dedicated raid healers |
| 18:56.44 | verxion | NeoTron: geebus man |
| 18:56.44 | dodga | NeoTron: Does Brutallus still do parry-hasted instagibs on the tanks? |
| 18:56.48 | JerleMinara | we're pretty well geared, had muru on farm for a while but some logistical issues have kept us from pushing at KJ al tl that efectively |
| 18:56.49 | JerleMinara | no |
| 18:56.54 | NeoTron | dodga: no |
| 18:56.57 | JerleMinara | no crushing, no parry haste on brutallus |
| 18:56.59 | nevcairiel | dodga: parry mechanics are disabled for him |
| 18:56.59 | NeoTron | however 17k per 1.5s |
| 18:57.04 | dodga | Yaaay :> |
| 18:57.09 | NeoTron | if all 4 big heals hit in the sme 1.5 second period |
| 18:57.13 | NeoTron | the next one will kill him |
| 18:57.15 | JerleMinara | we dropped him last night with only 1 death |
| 18:57.15 | dodga | Ya I just downed him 2-3 times |
| 18:57.21 | dodga | Didn't raid for 2-3 months now |
| 18:57.24 | JerleMinara | with uh.. 15 seconds to spare |
| 18:57.33 | dodga | My raid killed Felmyst and Twins in the mean time :/ |
| 18:57.53 | verxion | dodga: before enrage? |
| 18:57.58 | verxion | er, |
| 18:58.09 | verxion | JerleMinara: the 15 seconds to spare was before enrage? |
| 18:58.16 | JerleMinara | yes |
| 18:58.20 | verxion | W O W |
| 18:58.21 | NeoTron | we had a nice Twins kill this week |
| 18:58.22 | verxion | congrats man |
| 18:58.28 | verxion | that sounds like a nasty tough fight |
| 18:58.33 | NeoTron | we failed tuesday (for an hour), come back yesterday and one shot |
| 18:58.39 | NeoTron | with over a minute on enrage |
| 18:58.43 | JerleMinara | most guilds drop him with 10 to -5 seconds to spare |
| 18:58.56 | JerleMinara | we had a run last week |
| 18:59.06 | JerleMinara | where everyone died except a paladin tank |
| 18:59.11 | NeoTron | we usually have 20-30s at least on Brutallus nowadays |
| 18:59.11 | JerleMinara | who bubbled and finished him off from 1% with dots |
| 18:59.38 | verxion | so anyone here know druid healing very well? |
| 18:59.46 | cncfanatics | verxion: I'm a resto druid |
| 18:59.51 | verxion | I am a really new healer and trying to learn |
| 18:59.56 | JerleMinara | we've been going through alot of churn lately and people are playing like shit so we're not at the top of our game sadly Neo |
| 19:00.05 | fewyn | world... server....is.........................down |
| 19:00.16 | verxion | cncfanatics: I feel like I do super well at keeping tanks up in places like ZA by maintaining hots on them, but I don't really seem to do well at general raid healing |
| 19:00.19 | JerleMinara | had to do BT/MH last week for apps and this week has been server troubles like hell |
| 19:00.40 | NeoTron | JerleMinara: we're the same |
| 19:00.51 | JerleMinara | tuesday we did kalecgos, server crashes repeatedly and we called it. last night brutallus and 5 of our core people were dropping offline every 45 seconds. called it |
| 19:00.55 | NeoTron | JerleMinara: our 3rd month on M'uru doesn't help |
| 19:00.58 | JerleMinara | goddamn black dragonflight |
| 19:01.07 | cncfanatics | verxion: why exactly ? are direct healers overwriting your raid healing hots ? |
| 19:01.09 | verxion | cncfanatics: the guild I am in was not able to down any bosses in ZA until I joined |
| 19:01.28 | verxion | cncfanatics: well, they usually have me maintaining hots on the tanks as well as doing raid healing |
| 19:01.41 | JerleMinara | druids don't do raid healing |
| 19:01.41 | JerleMinara | sorry |
| 19:01.43 | JerleMinara | get a resto shaman |
| 19:01.44 | verxion | that leaves me with basically lifebloom and occasional rejuv/swiftmend on people |
| 19:01.52 | verxion | we have a 2400 +Healing resto shaman |
| 19:01.53 | cncfanatics | ok lets see, you're maintaining all your HoTs on the tanks right ? |
| 19:01.57 | JerleMinara | chain heal chain heal lulllllllz :< |
| 19:01.58 | verxion | cncfanatics: yeah |
| 19:02.08 | verxion | cncfanatics: leaves like one cycle is all for raid healing |
| 19:02.09 | verxion | :( |
| 19:02.09 | JerleMinara | is a resto shaman |
| 19:02.16 | cncfanatics | that leaves you a 2.2 sec (aprox) window to cast something else every few cycles |
| 19:02.19 | cncfanatics | I'd use it for a regrowth personaly |
| 19:02.20 | JerleMinara | psh, real resto shaman have 2000 +healing and like 380 haste :P |
| 19:02.22 | verxion | JerleMinara: there are times I wish I had a resto shaman, that is for damned sure |
| 19:02.31 | JerleMinara | 2.0 chain heals |
| 19:02.44 | cncfanatics | verxion: try fitting in regrowths more |
| 19:02.51 | JerleMinara | i hate it though, and am rerolling when lich king comes out. DKDKDK |
| 19:02.55 | cncfanatics | they have a direct heal and a nice long HoT you can swiftmend later if needed |
| 19:03.04 | verxion | cncfanatics: sometimes I do that, the real issue is when there is aoe damage across the entire raid |
| 19:03.13 | cncfanatics | leave that to brain heal tbh |
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| 19:03.28 | verxion | brain heal? |
| 19:03.36 | cncfanatics | the nickname of chain heal |
| 19:03.41 | verxion | oh, ok |
| 19:03.42 | JerleMinara | verx: we roll with about 8 healers usually |
| 19:03.48 | JerleMinara | resto shaman on raid heal and a circle of healing priest |
| 19:04.02 | verxion | JerleMinara: well the only 25 mans I do in current content are doomwalker, kazzak, gruuls, and mags |
| 19:04.05 | JerleMinara | druids and paladins should be focused on MT/OT/spot heal |
| 19:04.05 | cncfanatics | the only raid healing I ever do is when a single target or two took some damage |
| 19:04.16 | JerleMinara | oh, well you've got time to fine tune your raid composition |
| 19:04.22 | cncfanatics | I sometimes tend to be a bad druid and let my lifebloom fall off though :p |
| 19:04.30 | JerleMinara | keep in mind that all of this stuff we're telling you will go out the window in lich king |
| 19:04.35 | JerleMinara | the whole raid dynamic is set to change |
| 19:04.43 | verxion | cncfanatics: I have that happen as well, very frustrating - I have NO haste gear yet. :( |
| 19:04.50 | verxion | yeah, I am in the beta |
| 19:04.50 | JerleMinara | they're trying to break away from mandating 2 resto shaman anda COH priest and stuff |
| 19:04.52 | verxion | so I know that |
| 19:04.53 | verxion | :) |
| 19:05.08 | JerleMinara | we'll see how effectively they achieve that objective |
| 19:05.15 | cncfanatics | well, sometimes I just forget about the tanks and start full raid healing :( |
| 19:05.23 | verxion | I don't do that |
| 19:05.35 | cncfanatics | I need to stop doing that :p |
| 19:05.45 | verxion | we run ZA with 3 healers, kara with 2 |
| 19:05.45 | cncfanatics | and just trust our resto shammy in our ZA runs |
| 19:05.51 | cncfanatics | we run both with 2 |
| 19:05.59 | verxion | depending on the other healers, if I am not maintaining 3 hots on the tanks, they insta-die |
| 19:06.07 | verxion | so it is good training to keep me focused on maintaining the hots |
| 19:06.25 | verxion | well the hawk boss is still very VERY chaotic for us |
| 19:06.39 | cncfanatics | we have bear runs here, different environment :) |
| 19:06.43 | verxion | we have only attempted it twice |
| 19:06.51 | verxion | downed hawk boss second try, but was kindof nuts |
| 19:07.07 | verxion | cncfanatics: yeah, I honestly am starting to think I could grow more as a healer in a different guild |
| 19:07.13 | verxion | we have many folks that are lacking |
| 19:07.21 | verxion | I always outheal the 250 imba shammy healer |
| 19:07.24 | cncfanatics | zul'aman is all about people not being retards and not slacking |
| 19:07.28 | verxion | which ain't right |
| 19:07.32 | JerleMinara | shammy is lazy as shit then |
| 19:07.39 | verxion | JerleMinara: I agree |
| 19:07.48 | verxion | and we have a 230 holy priest that is like HALF my healing |
| 19:07.56 | cncfanatics | bbl , gonna play some EVE (if it works |
| 19:07.59 | JerleMinara | i regularly do 25% more healing than the #2 guy in raid facerolling chainheal |
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| 19:08.23 | verxion | JerleMinara: and that is what I would expect |
| 19:08.31 | verxion | it just makes sense from the raw numbers |
| 19:09.06 | verxion | no way should I compete with chain heal when I am doing hots on two tanks and using ONE total spot heal every cycle |
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| 19:10.10 | JerleMinara | gkick him~ |
| 19:10.17 | verxion | the shammy |
| 19:10.17 | NeoTron | good healers are hard |
| 19:10.19 | verxion | that I mention |
| 19:10.23 | verxion | is the guild leader... |
| 19:10.29 | JerleMinara | gquit |
| 19:10.35 | JerleMinara | but seriously |
| 19:10.38 | JerleMinara | should nudge him a bit |
| 19:10.40 | JerleMinara | there's no excuse |
| 19:10.47 | verxion | yeah |
| 19:10.53 | verxion | I am REALLY new to healing |
| 19:10.54 | JerleMinara | but anyways i'm going to go dose up on more dayquil and go back to watching enterprise and zoning out |
| 19:10.59 | verxion | only had a 70 druid for a month now |
| 19:11.13 | JerleMinara | read elitistjerks and immerse yourself in raidin theory |
| 19:11.18 | verxion | so I hesitate to act like I know more than him |
| 19:11.18 | JerleMinara | your head's in the right place, you just need to learn the numbers |
| 19:11.43 | JerleMinara | the fact that you're asking questions makes you more valuable than probably 80% of the druid healers I know, so.. start learning and you'll do well :P |
| 19:11.46 | verxion | I learned how to 2 tank heal from elitist jerks |
| 19:11.49 | verxion | that forum is godlike man |
| 19:11.57 | JerleMinara | honestly, it's easy to get someone geared up |
| 19:12.01 | NeoTron | out healer situation is sometimes so bad that I'm considering rolling one again |
| 19:12.10 | JerleMinara | we can take a fresh 70 and mint them into full sunwell/t6 in about 2 weeks |
| 19:12.16 | JerleMinara | the important thing is finding non-retards |
| 19:12.22 | verxion | JerleMinara: jeezus man |
| 19:12.22 | JerleMinara | so.. become a non-retard and you're priceless~ |
| 19:12.36 | verxion | yer prolly horde pve tho, lol |
| 19:12.38 | NeoTron | JerleMinara: it just gets very tiresome after a while |
| 19:12.39 | verxion | I am alliance pvp |
| 19:12.41 | JerleMinara | horde pvp |
| 19:12.45 | verxion | heh |
| 19:13.01 | JerleMinara | yeah that it does Neo |
| 19:13.04 | JerleMinara | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck hyjal |
| 19:13.06 | JerleMinara | just sayin' |
| 19:13.26 | JerleMinara | it's so trivial and boring except archimonde which is basically "roll dice, hope not to die, collect loot" |
| 19:13.41 | JerleMinara | anyways i'm out. keep on keepin' on verx. |
| 19:13.46 | verxion | JerleMinara: thanks man |
| 19:13.51 | verxion | appreciate the insights |
| 19:14.26 | NeoTron | I can also reiterate that the main thing that makes a player valuable is skill and dedication |
| 19:14.34 | NeoTron | and willingness and ABILITY to learn |
| 19:14.43 | NeoTron | gear is low on the list |
| 19:14.58 | NeoTron | our main warrior tank joined us a bit ago with tier 5 gear |
| 19:15.11 | NeoTron | we had two healers join in new level 70 as well as just out of kara gear |
| 19:15.28 | verxion | well on my server |
| 19:15.36 | NeoTron | we recruited a shaman who was level 35 (mind you he did have a t5/t6ish priest but we didn't need a holy priest0 |
| 19:15.37 | verxion | it seems like every guild considers gear the measure of ability |
| 19:16.41 | Dashkal | verxion: Consider the number of guilds that base decisions on gear, then compare their progression to those rare ones who value skill :p |
| 19:16.42 | verxion | I joined the guild I am in right now with nothing but quest greens |
| 19:16.49 | verxion | outhealed their second best healer right away |
| 19:17.01 | JerleMinara | verx: transfer to another server :P |
| 19:17.05 | verxion | then I stuck it out and got some pvp/rep gear and now I outheal the top guild healer |
| 19:17.13 | verxion | Dashkal: heheh |
| 19:17.22 | verxion | Dashkal: true dat |
| 19:18.59 | verxion | ok, gotta ship some packages |
| 19:19.00 | verxion | bbl |
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| 19:21.58 | Zhinjio | no more CIA, eh? |
| 19:22.06 | Zhinjio | Repo is the wave of the futcah! |
| 19:22.10 | Zhinjio | futcha |
| 19:29.18 | Gnarfoz | Adirelle: ... it's back to being broken :X |
| 19:31.06 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/d155d3153 <- Any idea how to fix this macro so it doesn't whine about using protected functions? |
| 19:31.22 | Zenom | does ClassTimers make sounds? |
| 19:31.29 | Aeyan | Nope |
| 19:31.31 | Zenom | all of a sudden i have some sounds I don't want |
| 19:31.32 | Zenom | lol |
| 19:32.12 | Zenom | wonder if its violation then |
| 19:32.17 | Zenom | thats the only other thing I can think of |
| 19:32.20 | JerleMinara | Adys: change it from using script to using the /cast functionality |
| 19:32.33 | Aeyan | No, Violation doesn't have any sounds either |
| 19:32.36 | Adys | aye Dewin helped me with that in wowuidev |
| 19:32.39 | Adys | thanks anyway |
| 19:32.41 | JerleMinara | it's like /cast [target=mousover,exists,noharm] or something |
| 19:32.54 | Zenom | wth lol |
| 19:33.52 | Zenom | found it, shaman warning |
| 19:33.57 | Zenom | forgot i installed that, time to un-install |
| 19:34.13 | Zenom | if you say that has no sounds, i kill babies |
| 19:35.22 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 19:35.27 | Aeyan | I dunno about that one |
| 19:35.33 | Aeyan | But 'warning' sounds about right |
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| 19:39.28 | Zenom | ya it was shaman warning |
| 19:39.39 | Zenom | also on Violate I cannot change the header color |
| 19:39.56 | Zenom | Violation i should say |
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| 19:46.18 | fewyn | there will be maintance and a patch today and they will be wiping achievements to help test them |
| 19:46.29 | fewyn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336514879&sid=2003 |
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| 19:48.05 | smcn | good, it was kind of annoying to have the level 80 achievement on my 72 dk :P |
| 19:48.26 | fewyn | yea |
| 19:49.38 | Mera | hope they wont touch at my flam warden title! |
| 19:49.54 | Zyndrome | ITS GONE |
| 19:49.58 | Zyndrome | YOUR TITLE IS GONE |
| 19:50.01 | Zyndrome | .. |
| 19:50.14 | Mera | noooo |
| 19:50.20 | fewyn | flam warden? |
| 19:50.20 | Mera | its retroactive :x |
| 19:50.45 | Mera | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?achievement=1038 |
| 19:51.03 | NeoTron | who cares... about achievements... on beta? :P |
| 19:51.31 | AckisWork | ehh was there an achievement to solo onyxia? |
| 19:51.39 | NeoTron | yes |
| 19:51.44 | NeoTron | and a level 78 DK did it |
| 19:51.53 | AckisWork | to SOLO her? wtf |
| 19:52.07 | AckisWork | I doubt I'll be able to do that on my priest |
| 19:52.28 | nevcairiel | i wanted to do that with my druid |
| 19:53.02 | nevcairiel | didnt a warrior do it? how did he do the flying phase? |
| 19:53.16 | Fisker- | Downloading spore twice is fun |
| 19:53.39 | JerleMinara | level 77 warrior in my guild did it, pre cap raise |
| 19:53.50 | Mera | yup video is on wowinsider |
| 19:53.56 | Mera | dk soling ony |
| 19:54.50 | NeoTron | you can melee her while she's in the air |
| 19:55.37 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 19:55.59 | Dashkal | NeoTron: O.o? How? |
| 19:56.06 | NeoTron | stand under her within the targetin circle |
| 19:56.13 | Dashkal | nifty |
| 19:56.15 | NeoTron | check the DK solo video, that's what he did |
| 19:56.22 | NeoTron | DK's don't have enough ranged DPS to take her down otherwise |
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| 19:56.50 | Dashkal | heh, I remember using icy touch and death coil to drop those giants trying to solo that late HF quest. Not fun |
| 19:57.53 | Gnarfoz | Dashkal: "how?" - like it's been done since 2004? ;) |
| 19:58.00 | NeoTron | Dashkal: I just solod them |
| 19:58.05 | NeoTron | like stand and kill |
| 19:58.11 | Dashkal | My spec isn't good enough for that right now |
| 19:58.13 | Dashkal | I get spanked |
| 19:58.26 | NeoTron | ofc the mac client crashes when you put your eyes on the red crystal in the ground so I nded up dropping the quest |
| 19:58.27 | Dashkal | I used the giant pet as a distraction than chains kited them around |
| 19:58.42 | NeoTron | they nerfed blood so it's likely not possible anymore (nerfed = fixed) |
| 19:59.02 | Dashkal | I'm blood without worms (I like how the spec feels, but I will not glow bright green) |
| 19:59.22 | NeoTron | I'm blood/frost but likely going to spec frost/blood next time I level |
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| 19:59.33 | Dashkal | couple tanking points, add worms, and I'd be able to do things like that again |
| 19:59.38 | Dashkal | I'm blood/ungoly |
| 19:59.44 | NeoTron | I am trying out dual wielding (primarily because I got two WotLK 1h weapons but no 2h weapon) |
| 19:59.48 | Dashkal | On a Pale Horse is amazingly handy for me |
| 20:00.09 | NeoTron | it speeds things up |
| 20:00.28 | Dashkal | exactly. I'll drop it for any serious "Can I solo this thing?" testing |
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| 20:04.37 | Zenom | in Pitbull where does the main assist window get its info from? |
| 20:04.42 | Zenom | ie., how would that be set? |
| 20:06.47 | Stanzilla | via the blizzard raid windows I think |
| 20:06.52 | Stanzilla | ckknight should know :P |
| 20:07.04 | ckknight | Zenom: yea, blizz raid windows |
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| 20:08.31 | dafire | this 3x xp thing with recruit a friend is op |
| 20:08.35 | dafire | a |
| 20:08.59 | Zenom | ya just found that will probably just use focus or something |
| 20:09.23 | dafire | after doing the first quests in the first area we were already level 8 when mobs still were level 3-4 and all quests were green .9 |
| 20:09.40 | kenlyric | wait until you do the green hills of stranglethorn |
| 20:15.26 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Kargath&n=Leishmania is there a way to get 1 more point of rep @ bloodsail? ;D |
| 20:15.59 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: do the quests |
| 20:16.16 | Gnarfoz | i.e. he's one of the "oh shit damn, had I only saved a quest" guys? |
| 20:16.24 | AckisWork | I think so |
| 20:16.25 | Gnarfoz | eternally fucked? :P |
| 20:16.25 | Xinhuan | if there is, you would think he has done it right? |
| 20:16.28 | AckisWork | is he on your server? |
| 20:16.42 | Gnarfoz | nah I'm eu and not even a rep freak ^^ |
| 20:16.54 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 20:17.02 | AckisWork | I wonder if you can still do the centaur trick to get them maxed out |
| 20:17.06 | Gnarfoz | but in the thread where I found his armory link, someone said "too bad he didn't save a quest" |
| 20:17.08 | Xinhuan | nope u can't |
| 20:17.16 | dodga | AckisWork: I read that does no llonger work |
| 20:17.22 | Gnarfoz | nah, rep losses in groups are fixed long tiems now |
| 20:17.23 | AckisWork | ahh k |
| 20:17.58 | AckisWork | I should max out my centaur faction and do the quest to push me over revered :P |
| 20:19.14 | Gnarfoz | i.e. exalted magram whatever? |
| 20:19.15 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 20:19.45 | Gnarfoz | anyway, that guy is already at 39, and (ah, it was wowhead comments, I remember now) 40 is the absolute maximum you can reach atm |
| 20:20.38 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: LOL http://www.wowarmory.com/character-reputation.xml?r=Bloodscalp&n=Verilheli |
| 20:20.44 | Gnarfoz | awesome reps |
| 20:20.45 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:21.18 | Xinhuan | search mine pls |
| 20:21.27 | AckisWork | lol Gnarfoz |
| 20:21.30 | AckisWork | yah 40 is the max |
| 20:21.39 | AckisWork | Xinhuan and I will be at 39 when wrath comes out |
| 20:21.46 | Gnarfoz | I no rite |
| 20:22.00 | Xinhuan | nah darkmoon is far harder than that |
| 20:22.05 | Xinhuan | it'll take 2 years for that one |
| 20:22.20 | AckisWork | you think? |
| 20:22.25 | AckisWork | you only need like 100 decks |
| 20:22.29 | Gnarfoz | btw, thread is at http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=711971014&sid=1 |
| 20:22.39 | Gnarfoz | too bad his armory profile doesn't work, transferred or something |
| 20:22.46 | Xinhuan | yeah consider how many Aces you are getting per week ackis |
| 20:22.52 | Xinhuan | 2? 3? |
| 20:23.10 | Xinhuan | lets say 3 per week, you'll need 33 weeks |
| 20:23.16 | Xinhuan | but i bet its less than that |
| 20:23.21 | Xinhuan | moer like 1 or 2 per week |
| 20:23.29 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: I haven't started grinding it |
| 20:23.40 | Xinhuan | it all depends on market availability |
| 20:23.43 | AckisWork | I've just been watching the AH |
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| 20:23.49 | Xinhuan | and whether you have 50k gold to spend |
| 20:23.51 | AckisWork | when I grind it I'll be doing scholo/DM |
| 20:23.58 | Gnarfoz | you do, though :p |
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| 20:24.20 | AckisWork | I'm down to 26k gold :( |
| 20:24.20 | Gnarfoz | also, in that thread, they say gaining syndicate rep is possible? |
| 20:24.43 | Gnarfoz | (also, I *play* on "Das Syndikat" the translation of which you can probably guess :D) |
| 20:24.51 | Gnarfoz | I'm still at ~2.8k ish. |
| 20:24.54 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 20:25.07 | Gnarfoz | no clue how to make as much money as you guys throw around ;p |
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| 20:25.42 | AckisWork | Xinhuan is a lot better off than me... he's a scarab lord with over 100k gold |
| 20:25.52 | AckisWork | prolly has the phoenix too |
| 20:26.07 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: I'm on illlidan US/Ackis if you want to snoop at me :P |
| 20:26.25 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: uhm, I know, right? |
| 20:26.25 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 20:26.34 | AckisWork | you do?!?! stalker |
| 20:26.55 | Gnarfoz | me, in another channel, on another network, minutes before opening the 'rep talk' can: |
| 20:26.58 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> !c us illidan ackis <Gnarfoz> !c us blackrock xinhuan |
| 20:27.00 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 20:27.08 | AckisWork | hah |
| 20:27.21 | AckisWork | !c us illidan ackis |
| 20:27.25 | Gnarfoz | yeah, not here. :p |
| 20:27.30 | AckisWork | no it works |
| 20:27.44 | AckisWork | Ackis, Level 70 Troll Priest (20/41/0). 8461 HP; 10665 Mana; 684 mana regen; 285 mp5; 15 spell crit; 944 +spell dmg; 2535 +heal; 5.06% dodge;[[ TBR: 1185 ][ Link: http://tinyurl.com/3s7xmw ][ Talents: http://tinyurl.com/6s7w7c ][ Updated: Thu Aug 28 16:33:29 2008 EST ]] |
| 20:27.53 | Gnarfoz | it's not hard to remember the charname/server of a guy who has nearly all titles in the game and the highest played time I've seen |
| 20:28.06 | Gnarfoz | and for you... you just talk too much in here :p |
| 20:28.10 | AckisWork | wow |
| 20:28.11 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:28.16 | smcn | !c us dragonblight hornswaggle |
| 20:28.21 | smcn | ;P |
| 20:28.27 | Gnarfoz | btw Xinhuan, whatever happened to your Merciless Glad title? oO |
| 20:28.45 | Gnarfoz | thought you bought into the appropriate team at the approriate time and had the title |
| 20:28.58 | Xinhuan | u lose it after the season ends |
| 20:29.02 | Gnarfoz | no you don't |
| 20:29.06 | nevcairiel | sure you do |
| 20:29.07 | Xinhuan | yes you do |
| 20:29.08 | Gnarfoz | it's permanent |
| 20:29.12 | nevcairiel | no its not |
| 20:29.19 | Gnarfoz | *grabs firefox history* |
| 20:29.21 | Xinhuan | its permanent only for the #1 guy |
| 20:29.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 20:29.34 | Gnarfoz | that IS the Merciless Glad title |
| 20:29.36 | Xinhuan | #1 team, the "Merciless Gladiator" title.. not "Gladiator" title |
| 20:29.37 | Zyndrome | 3 hours and 20 minutes later |
| 20:29.41 | Xinhuan | that's 2 different titles |
| 20:29.41 | Zyndrome | phase 2 on Muru |
| 20:29.44 | Gnarfoz | ?! |
| 20:29.45 | Zyndrome | this suuuuuuucks |
| 20:29.48 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:29.49 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> btw Xinhuan, whatever happened to your Merciless Glad title? oO |
| 20:29.56 | Fisker- | like 3rd try on council and we're at 45% |
| 20:30.04 | Xinhuan | i'm not a merciless glad... just a regular glad |
| 20:30.05 | Fisker- | only wiped due to unlucky tank spike |
| 20:30.07 | Gnarfoz | so I misremembered and you bought into a team for the Glad title, not the Merciless Glad title |
| 20:30.10 | Gnarfoz | kk |
| 20:30.38 | FtH|Daemona | anyone had luck getting onto coldarra lately? |
| 20:30.46 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: patch time |
| 20:31.02 | nevcairiel | ewww xin buys pvp titles |
| 20:31.03 | FtH|Daemona | officially? bluepost? |
| 20:31.10 | nevcairiel | at least i won my title by playing =P |
| 20:31.12 | Xinhuan | someone offered it to me |
| 20:31.21 | Xinhuan | couldn't say no, it was too cheap |
| 20:31.25 | Xinhuan | 3000g for a 310% mount |
| 20:31.30 | Xinhuan | who would reject it? |
| 20:31.41 | Xinhuan | (p.s. i don't even wear the glad title) |
| 20:32.00 | Gnarfoz | Scarab Lord is way better. :P |
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| 20:35.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: b.s. btw. |
| 20:36.11 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 20:36.20 | Gnarfoz | coldarra is up |
| 20:36.22 | Gnarfoz | etc. |
| 20:36.38 | nevcairiel | what do i know, i'm on live |
| 20:36.41 | nevcairiel | i just read blue posts |
| 20:36.48 | nevcairiel | and they mentioned another maintenance "today" |
| 20:36.53 | nevcairiel | and an "update" |
| 20:37.04 | Gnarfoz | so |
| 20:37.18 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: don't listen to nev, just use his barmod and complain about it :P |
| 20:37.29 | Gnarfoz | FtH|Daemona: server works, you just have to be patient to get through auth |
| 20:37.31 | FtH|Daemona | hey nevcairiel ... how is stances? |
| 20:37.36 | FtH|Daemona | i got through Gnarfoz |
| 20:37.40 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: test, then ask, shush! |
| 20:37.51 | FtH|Daemona | now i stand before cot:stratholm and got no portal -.- |
| 20:38.01 | nevcairiel | or just read svn logs =P |
| 20:38.14 | Gnarfoz | took me the last 3-4 hours to actually log in, so I think I know why he asked before trying. |
| 20:38.24 | FtH|Daemona | svn:update tells me |
| 20:38.26 | FtH|Daemona | nothing changed |
| 20:38.47 | nevcairiel | so it still works, like the last two weeks or so? :) |
| 20:39.04 | nevcairiel | i play a druid, dont you think i might notice if stances broke? :P |
| 20:40.02 | FtH|Daemona | hey, last time i asked if bt4 does stances you said its broken blizz side |
| 20:40.15 | Gnarfoz | gahhhh |
| 20:40.17 | nevcairiel | well thats 3 patches ago |
| 20:40.19 | Gnarfoz | and there it goes again :X |
| 20:40.22 | FtH|Daemona | and there wasnt a client patch if i recall... |
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| 20:40.39 | nevcairiel | your memory cant be trusted :) |
| 20:40.43 | Gnarfoz | indeedly |
| 20:40.53 | nevcairiel | last time we spoke was at least 2-3 weeks ago |
| 20:40.58 | NeoTron | some people are just too stupid |
| 20:41.10 | NeoTron | "Will beta players toons transfer to final?" |
| 20:41.12 | FtH|Daemona | dont make me search the log to prove you wrong nevcairiel... |
| 20:41.30 | FtH|Daemona | NeoTron that question is asked every beta and ptr, gazillion times |
| 20:42.03 | nevcairiel | August 8 |
| 20:42.07 | nevcairiel | since then stances work |
| 20:42.13 | FtH|Daemona | they just should put a big "THIS IS A TEMPORARY TEST REALM - NO CHARS WILL MOVE OVER TO LIVE REALMS" instead of the WoW logo in the downloader for beta / ptr |
| 20:42.28 | winkiller | lol |
| 20:42.42 | winkiller | really? |
| 20:42.57 | FtH|Daemona | Connected ... |
| 20:43.03 | FtH|Daemona | twiddles his thumbs. |
| 20:44.12 | FtH|Daemona | any suggestion on a external hdd case 3.5'', usb ? ... seems i broke the usb plug while carrying it around the last week -.- |
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| 20:46.08 | winkiller | well, if you don't need any NAS features.. take any for a reasonable price that does USB 2.0 :P |
| 20:46.34 | winkiller | they're not really different. at least the 5-10 I used over the years |
| 20:47.25 | Gnarfoz | except for maybe the bridge chip might suck big time giving you horrible speed |
| 20:47.57 | winkiller | yeah, but a quick google search should rule those out :P |
| 20:48.00 | nocts|work | Anyone have an idea of why my entire XP machine locks up during USB transfers of any kind? |
| 20:48.12 | winkiller | you need vista. definitely :) |
| 20:48.14 | winkiller | and a quadcore |
| 20:48.23 | nocts|work | No thanks to the quad core, and no thanks to vista. |
| 20:49.08 | nocts|work | I'll stick to dual core. |
| 20:49.08 | Zhinjio | heya nocts |
| 20:49.08 | nocts|work | smiles at Zhinjio |
| 20:49.08 | nocts|work | Hey bud |
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| 20:54.38 | steev | interesting |
| 20:54.59 | Zyndrome | shakes and rattles |
| 20:55.06 | steev | so |
| 20:55.12 | nocts|work | Still, XP locks up on each usb transfer, save the mouse and keyboard. But even then signal loss occurs every so often. |
| 20:55.14 | steev | i used to play swg - like i was totally addicted |
| 20:55.15 | nocts|work | Thoughts? |
| 20:55.27 | NeoTron | SWG was tons of fun |
| 20:55.29 | steev | nocts|work: usb 1.x port vs usb 2.x device |
| 20:55.36 | nocts|work | steev: 2.x |
| 20:55.37 | steev | NeoTron: well they have a new launcher available |
| 20:55.46 | NeoTron | until the realization that playing it was more like work... ofc then they broke it! |
| 20:55.49 | steev | that lets you chat with your friends in game without being in game |
| 20:56.00 | NeoTron | the chatting in SWG was .. nicer |
| 20:56.03 | steev | basically... the swg chat is gabber |
| 20:56.06 | steev | er, jabber* |
| 20:56.14 | NeoTron | persistent chat plus multi-server/multi-game chat |
| 20:56.29 | NeoTron | using jabber is pretty gool |
| 20:56.42 | steev | so... first thing i did was to disconnect from the internet |
| 20:56.51 | steev | close all internet using apps down |
| 20:57.00 | steev | start up wireshark, reconnect and start only the launcher |
| 20:57.18 | NeoTron | lol... did you haxor it into another chat app? :P |
| 20:57.30 | steev | getting ready to :-P |
| 20:57.46 | nocts|work | NeoTron: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gool ? |
| 20:58.12 | steev | jabber server ufriends.sdk-lpchat10.station.sony.com and your username would be GAME.Server.username |
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| 20:58.39 | steev | i think anyway |
| 20:58.54 | steev | loads up pidgin |
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| 21:00.48 | steev | no, just sdk-lpchat10 |
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| 21:02.10 | steev | its really weird though |
| 21:02.30 | steev | they modified it somehow |
| 21:02.47 | NeoTron | nocts|work: more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typo |
| 21:02.54 | NeoTron | no didn't check to see if that page existed |
| 21:03.27 | NeoTron | steev: how is it weird? |
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| 21:04.33 | steev | <item subscription='both' name='EQ2.Najena.Akiyi+EQ2.Najena.Keuhi' jid='EQ2.Najena.Akiyi+EQ2.Najena.Keuhi@sdk-lpchat10.station.sony.com'/> |
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| 21:05.43 | steev | unless thats how it always shows presence |
| 21:05.53 | steev | i haven't watched an xmpp conversation in a while |
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| 21:08.52 | NeoTron | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/9336664921-random-is-not-random.html OMG way to miss the damn point |
| 21:09.08 | NeoTron | "same times, same people, same guild" has nothing to do with RNG! |
| 21:09.28 | NeoTron | esp since you _never_ raid the same time and rarely with the same people |
| 21:10.32 | dodga | NeoTron: Though it's funny like some raids see certain items never drop |
| 21:11.02 | NeoTron | it's especially funny how people are completely unable to detect "completely random" number sequences |
| 21:11.10 | dodga | Yah I know random numbers are random, but e.g. I've never seen Mungo drop, second raid I did not attend to in one year raiding Kara the darn formula drops :D |
| 21:11.18 | NeoTron | people always pick the sequences that have no duplicate rolls, and have the largest variance |
| 21:11.32 | NeoTron | sequences with 2-4 of the same number in the row, for example, would never be picked |
| 21:11.43 | Dashkal | lua> (0.98)**72 |
| 21:11.43 | lua_bot | Dashkal: luabot:1: syntax error near '*' |
| 21:11.48 | Dashkal | lua> (0.98)^72 |
| 21:11.48 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 0.23349492727035 |
| 21:11.51 | Arrowmaster | even when using dice you can have things that dont seem random at all |
| 21:11.54 | NeoTron | dodga: and that is EXACTLY why they are (pseudo) random and not manually picked |
| 21:12.00 | Dashkal | 23% chance of never seeing a glaive drop in 36 runs |
| 21:12.22 | NeoTron | if they were manually picked or had some sort of non-random factor, you should never "not see" an item |
| 21:12.27 | NeoTron | only when it's actually random does that happen |
| 21:12.28 | Dashkal | math might be wrong, though |
| 21:12.41 | dodga | NeoTron: Then make it unrandom!:D |
| 21:12.42 | Dashkal | oops, it is |
| 21:12.48 | NeoTron | dodga: I've argued for it |
| 21:12.52 | Dashkal | lua> ((0.96)^72)*100 |
| 21:12.53 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 5.2908905653032 |
| 21:12.57 | Dashkal | 5% |
| 21:12.59 | NeoTron | or random with a memory or a smart random based on the raid makeup |
| 21:13.02 | dodga | Just make everything token drops :D |
| 21:13.15 | Arrowmaster | 5 6 1 5 1 1 4 1 6 6 3 5 2 6 6 4 2 2 2 4 2 4 1 5 2 4 4 |
| 21:13.23 | Arrowmaster | (yes i have a d6 on my desk) |
| 21:13.58 | dodga | I don't have a problem if they would tell me "Listen son, you need to raid that place 10000 times and then you'll get that item for sure", but I do have a problem with "Listen son, you need to... ah screw you." |
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| 21:14.17 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 21:14.24 | Fisker- | we totally raped everything to be raped |
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| 21:17.24 | Fisker- | i.e. illidary council >:3 |
| 21:19.42 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 20 do print(rand(1, 6)) end |
| 21:19.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'rand' (a nil value) |
| 21:19.49 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 20 do print(math.random(1, 6)) end |
| 21:19.49 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 1, 5, 3, 6, 3, 2, 2, 5, 1, 2, 1, 5, 6, 1, 3, 4, 3, 1, 1 |
| 21:19.53 | Xinhuan | win |
| 21:20.12 | nevcairiel | you didnt seed it before! |
| 21:20.14 | Xinhuan | lua> for i = 1, 20 do print(math.random(1, 6)) end |
| 21:20.15 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 4, 6, 2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 4, 6, 2, 1, 4, 3, 5, 3, 6, 1, 4, 6, 2 |
| 21:20.17 | njal | *celebrates the 43'th download of his first addon* |
| 21:20.20 | Xinhuan | appears i don't need to seed it |
| 21:20.43 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.random(1) |
| 21:20.44 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1 |
| 21:20.44 | nevcairiel | maybe that was changed, it used to return the same if you didnt seed it |
| 21:20.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.random(0, 1) |
| 21:20.56 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1 |
| 21:20.57 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.random(0, 1) |
| 21:20.57 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1 |
| 21:20.58 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.random(0, 1) |
| 21:20.59 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 0 |
| 21:21.05 | Arrowmaster | seems fixed |
| 21:21.11 | njal | usually prngs are seeded with the current datetime |
| 21:21.34 | nevcairiel | yeah but some time back it appeared to not do that by default |
| 21:21.37 | nevcairiel | and reset every command |
| 21:21.39 | nevcairiel | due to the sandbox |
| 21:21.41 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.randomseed() math.random(0, 1) |
| 21:21.41 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'randomseed' (number expected, got no value) |
| 21:23.20 | Arrowmaster | 4, 6, 2, 5, 6, 1, 4, 3, 5, 2, 1, 2, 2, 3, 2, 3, 5, 6, 6, 4 |
| 21:23.46 | Arrowmaster | which is more random? |
| 21:23.50 | Bruners | is the latest cellular broken or is it just here? |
| 21:23.57 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: CLEARLY that is not random, I mean you have duplicate numbers!!! |
| 21:24.14 | nevcairiel | 3, 3, 3, 3 <-- random |
| 21:24.42 | Dashkal | made the mistake of reading that thread. My god is that full of fail |
| 21:24.46 | NeoTron | people fail to realize that random is random, not "always different" |
| 21:25.00 | nevcairiel | which one Dashkal? |
| 21:25.07 | Dashkal | random |
| 21:25.19 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 21:25.22 | Dashkal | The prevailing 'logic' is "My case is a fringe one, therefore it's not random" |
| 21:26.28 | Dashkal | I have _never_ seen a world purple drop for me solo. Friend of mine has 3 or 4 now and has played less time. OMG random is not random. |
| 21:26.47 | NeoTron | Dashkal: indeed. it's based on HIS NAME AND CLASS |
| 21:26.49 | NeoTron | clearly |
| 21:27.00 | NeoTron | never mind of course, that the loot of a mob is determined when the mob is spawned |
| 21:27.03 | NeoTron | not by who kills it when |
| 21:27.08 | Dashkal | facepalms |
| 21:27.19 | dodga | Dashkal: You need to go out and kill mobs that drop random purples for that to happen. Doing 200d /played in IF won't yield a random drop :> |
| 21:27.22 | dodga | *run* |
| 21:27.25 | Dashkal | Yeah, not even worth trying to disuade him. Blizzard is obviously lying |
| 21:27.35 | NeoTron | wait |
| 21:27.42 | Dashkal | ~whalenuke dodga |
| 21:27.43 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around dodga with his mind powers. |
| 21:27.49 | NeoTron | he argues that he for some reason is prone to be lucky due to hwo the game works? |
| 21:27.51 | Dashkal | LoS range :p |
| 21:28.02 | dodga | Uh, hi Ray! |
| 21:28.03 | smcn | kind of reminds me of this story on this american life about a guy with no formal education in physics picking up a physics book and then finding a mistake in e=mc^2... he was completely wrong of course :P |
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| 21:29.17 | njal | eheh |
| 21:33.39 | NeoTron | really the main issue with relying on <random> the way loot does is that we don't get enough rolls, within one guild |
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| 21:38.32 | JerleMinara | if |
| 21:38.36 | JerleMinara | this next beta patch |
| 21:38.39 | JerleMinara | were to fix the uiscale resetting bug |
| 21:38.42 | JerleMinara | i would not mind at all |
| 21:38.56 | Gnarfoz | just use the UIScale addon |
| 21:39.13 | Gnarfoz | also: I wouldn't mind if they fixed Judgements. lol |
| 21:39.22 | JerleMinara | what uiscale addon |
| 21:39.53 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 21:39.59 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10414-UIScale.html |
| 21:40.42 | JerleMinara | uh, i want it on. and at the smallest it can get |
| 21:40.52 | NeoTron | out of curiosity, how many items does M'uru drop on each kill? |
| 21:41.41 | Gnarfoz | JerleMinara: read comments. |
| 21:41.56 | Gnarfoz | also, they should just remove uiscale :X |
| 21:44.15 | Zyndrome | NeoTron , that's a trick question .. he can't be killed! hahahhahahahahaha |
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| 21:44.24 | Zyndrome | chews up froth around his mouth |
| 21:44.31 | nocts|work | lol |
| 21:50.32 | NeoTron | Zyndrome: lolol |
| 21:50.38 | NeoTron | although I'm serious :P |
| 21:50.46 | NeoTron | hope it's the same or more than twins |
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| 22:24.03 | NivFreak | wow |
| 22:24.13 | NivFreak | doing 220,000Xp/hour |
| 22:24.16 | NivFreak | in strat |
| 22:24.20 | NivFreak | with my lvl 51s |
| 22:24.30 | NivFreak | crazy |
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| 22:25.13 | Shadowed | verxion: ? |
| 22:28.50 | winkiller | WTB Warlock. can CoD/CoA be resisted partially? |
| 22:29.09 | sb | NivFreak: new temple like 'bug'? |
| 22:36.23 | Lyn | gief 40 more euros, then I would recruit myself -.- |
| 22:37.32 | sb | Lyn: for new mount thingie? |
| 22:37.38 | Lyn | no |
| 22:37.50 | Lyn | for leveling 3 classes I don't have |
| 22:38.01 | sb | hmm its not that good... |
| 22:38.10 | sb | you have to be in group with that person |
| 22:38.13 | Lyn | AND finally leveling a horde character... too boring for leveling there :x |
| 22:38.15 | sb | + at the same place |
| 22:38.18 | Lyn | I know |
| 22:39.05 | Lyn | 1 new character on new acc, 1 on old, then leveling them... transfer the one from new acc to old acc. delete new acc - profit, but costs 2 month of playing (1 free for old acc) + transfer |
| 22:42.13 | Gary13579 | (17:24:03) (NivFreak) doing 220,000Xp/hour |
| 22:42.13 | Gary13579 | (17:24:06) (NivFreak) in strat |
| 22:42.28 | Gary13579 | Power leveled my druid from 45 to 60 in Strat, averaged a level per hour. |
| 22:42.35 | Gary13579 | Made about 15k gold. |
| 22:42.39 | sb | mhhh - HOW? :) |
| 22:42.40 | Lyn | :< |
| 22:42.44 | njal | huh? |
| 22:43.27 | Gary13579 | None rested, with no RAF bonus. |
| 22:43.32 | Gary13579 | Huh, what D: ? |
| 22:44.04 | njal | using a paladin to boost or? |
| 22:44.11 | Gary13579 | (if you were to get 4 level 50s, 1 level 70, instead of 1 level 70 1 level 50 like I was doing, it'd speed it up by a ton) |
| 22:44.12 | Gary13579 | yeah |
| 22:44.30 | Gary13579 | pull half the instance, blow shit up |
| 22:44.54 | Gary13579 | http://odiness.dreamhosters.com/misc/WoWScrnShot_043008_214639.jpg |
| 22:45.22 | njal | op paladins |
| 22:45.45 | njal | I'll be happy just to clear strat for my friends on my druid |
| 22:46.19 | Lyn | I had problems on the mana leeching mobs in strat with my prot pally |
| 22:46.28 | Gary13579 | can get runs down to 20 minutes |
| 22:46.34 | Gary13579 | you don't clear the entire instance, lyn |
| 22:46.42 | Lyn | oO |
| 22:46.43 | Gary13579 | only a few pulls, sec, I have a screenshot somewhere |
| 22:47.12 | winkiller | mhm |
| 22:47.24 | winkiller | how are your accs linked? pally original, druid referred? |
| 22:47.55 | Lyn | Tekkub, quick question, how can I unload a guide in TourGuide? Sorry if it's a dumb question but I tried some key combinations but nothing happened :/ |
| 22:48.13 | winkiller | we're doing it atm like so: acc1 referred acc2 and 70 mage on acc3 runs 1+2 through |
| 22:49.04 | Tekkub | you don't |
| 22:49.05 | Gary13579 | winkiller: they aren't :/ |
| 22:49.13 | winkiller | oh, ok |
| 22:49.16 | Lyn | ordered a notebook 2 days ago... now I am blank so I cannot recruit myself to level a shadowpriest :x |
| 22:49.19 | winkiller | and your pally is prot, right? |
| 22:49.24 | Gary13579 | created before they added it |
| 22:49.24 | Lyn | ah, okay, thanks, tek |
| 22:49.26 | Gary13579 | and yeah |
| 22:49.33 | Adirelle | night |
| 22:49.36 | winkiller | we'd only have a holy pally |
| 22:49.41 | winkiller | with crap prot gear |
| 22:49.47 | Gary13579 | sorry lol, here's the guide: http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/index.php?page=Thread&postID=80500#post80500 |
| 22:49.58 | winkiller | ah yeah, thanks for the repost |
| 22:49.58 | Lyn | Gary13579, thanks :) |
| 22:50.00 | winkiller | now I'll bookmark |
| 22:50.08 | winkiller | we're at 32/33 atm |
| 22:50.13 | winkiller | went Gnomeregan yesterday |
| 22:50.26 | winkiller | never seen that instance in 3 years of wow (always horde) |
| 22:51.28 | Gary13579 | doesn't require too much gear, http://armorylite.com/us/echo+isles/Hearthstone |
| 22:51.40 | Gary13579 | that's who I used, I started doing it with less, got some items since |
| 22:51.46 | Gary13579 | replace shield with sporeagarr rep shield |
| 22:52.12 | winkiller | oh right |
| 22:52.17 | winkiller | worth a try maybe |
| 22:52.20 | winkiller | but atm mage is better |
| 22:52.25 | winkiller | up until ST I guess |
| 22:52.26 | Gary13579 | That trinket is a must |
| 22:52.47 | Gary13579 | Not really lol, I have a mage as well, but didn't even bother using her |
| 22:52.51 | winkiller | the lowbies are druid/shammy, might be able to heal through :P |
| 22:52.56 | winkiller | at 50 |
| 22:52.58 | Gary13579 | Did 10-60 with prot paladin |
| 22:53.46 | Gary13579 | nah, when a mage goes OOM he's screwed. when my paladin goes oom I sit there letting mobs beat on me for 5 minutes while they kill themselves |
| 22:54.22 | Gary13579 | I did one pull SM runs for 25-45 |
| 22:54.45 | Gary13579 | oh, and ranged taunt/blessing of prot is ftw |
| 22:55.13 | winkiller | hm well, we don't have a prot pally :P |
| 22:55.47 | njal | Tekkub: thumbs up for that addon btw :) never used it, but seems really interesting and like a great concept |
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| 22:58.57 | njal | anyone ever tried to estimate rage generation pr second (or similar) by looking at rage generated pr second the last X seconds? |
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| 23:08.03 | Diao | rage generation isn't smooth enough to be able to do that njal |
| 23:08.10 | Diao | it's too spiky, though you could do a moving average I guess |
| 23:09.11 | njal | I'm shooting for a moving average atm I think |
| 23:10.49 | charon | isn't there a straight damage-based formula for that? |
| 23:11.34 | njal | well, you dont know how much dmg you're going to be taking |
| 23:11.42 | charon | http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Rage_generation |
| 23:11.52 | njal | or putting out for that matter |
| 23:12.01 | njal | so it will be an estimate no matter what |
| 23:12.15 | charon | true, but i'm just saying, for a guesstimate at how much you're going to get in fight X you can just take those formulas and WWS |
| 23:12.40 | njal | so I think a moving average from the last X (lets say 6 for example) will be pretty good |
| 23:13.57 | charon | by the same logic, you don't know how much rage you're going to get during the next 3 or so seconds |
| 23:14.05 | charon | from my furry POV your current rage bar is all that matters |
| 23:14.12 | charon | but whatever lights your candle |
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| 23:15.07 | njal | im in my usual "lets predict the future" mood |
| 23:15.26 | njal | since that is what my addon tries to do, and is actually doing a pretty good job at |
| 23:17.12 | charon | ok now you have me curious |
| 23:17.20 | charon | what's your addon, and what did Niels Bohr have to say about it? |
| 23:18.37 | Shefki | It predicts that in the next 5 seconds someone is going to say something stupid on the Internet. |
| 23:18.56 | njal | my addon is Ripped (http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/13568/) and niels bohr told me he didn't intend me to use lua that way |
| 23:23.09 | charon | nice idea, i'll try that next time i raid |
| 23:23.17 | njal | what class do you play? |
| 23:23.21 | charon | feral |
| 23:23.29 | njal | cat or bear? |
| 23:23.37 | charon | well both, that's the point isn't it |
| 23:23.43 | Antiarc | btw |
| 23:23.44 | Antiarc | http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/World_of_Warcraft/PC/The_Drakkensryd/740706 |
| 23:23.47 | Antiarc | ^-- awesome |
| 23:24.36 | charon | njal: though i suspect bear is quite boring wrt prediction of the future, i'd use it only for cat |
| 23:24.54 | njal | charon: I'm a feral druid myself, but I dont raid in tbc anymore, so I'm not sure what the default strat should be like |
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| 23:25.20 | njal | I havent modelled the rage generation yet, so I only have a druid cat strategy built-in |
| 23:25.45 | charon | you'd have to ask the experts over on #eu-druids quakenet or so |
| 23:26.19 | njal | and its pretty much like this: make sure FF is up, then, mangle if the mangle debuff isn't up. after that, shred if the mob isn't targetting you, otherwise, mangle. if you have 4 or more combo-points, it suggets rip |
| 23:26.19 | charon | i rip as soon as i have at least 4cp and powershift whenever i'm <10 energy unless i'm lazy |
| 23:26.42 | njal | and yeah, it suggests powershifting if you get less than a set threshhold of energy. |
| 23:27.33 | njal | however, I was making the druid strat when playing the wotlk beta, so the energy regen formula uses the 1energy/100ms that 3.0 uses |
| 23:27.46 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: dont you just love how all those damage numbers are displayed in the 3d world |
| 23:27.47 | charon | ah |
| 23:27.57 | charon | gets much nicer then, anyway |
| 23:28.01 | Antiarc | Hehe |
| 23:28.13 | charon | it sucks that right now after power shifting you always end up with 2 energy less than the next shred |
| 23:28.19 | njal | which means that it probably wont suggest powershifting until you set the treshhold to 16, which seems to be the magic treshhold |
| 23:28.25 | Zhinjio | question... I want to store the name of a variable in a table, so that I can later refer to that variable based on a passed value... is there any special magic I need to do ? |
| 23:28.29 | Zhinjio | for example |
| 23:28.53 | Zhinjio | valmap = { [1] = addon.db.profile.blort } |
| 23:29.20 | Zhinjio | can I then do like valmap[passedvalue] ? |
| 23:29.30 | Zhinjio | am I making sense? |
| 23:29.33 | Zhinjio | I'm delirious |
| 23:30.05 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:30.12 | Arrowmaster | unless passedvalue = 1 |
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| 23:30.27 | Zhinjio | of course |
| 23:30.35 | Zhinjio | I kjnow that part |
| 23:30.54 | Zhinjio | so two things... |
| 23:31.08 | njal | charon: well, its going to be _a lot_ nicer in wotlk |
| 23:31.11 | Zhinjio | I don't want the value of the vaariable stored in the table, I want the reference to the variable |
| 23:31.28 | charon | still wonders in what black hole his beta key fell |
| 23:31.33 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: well your storing a table, so yeah that works |
| 23:31.44 | njal | with tigers fury regenerating 60 energy on use, and a lot more return on powershifts due to it being easier to get to 0 energy |
| 23:31.48 | charon | Zhinjio: everything is a reference |
| 23:31.55 | charon | (but numbers and strings are immutable) |
| 23:32.09 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 23:32.20 | Zhinjio | I'll just try it and see what happens. |
| 23:32.20 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 23:33.51 | njal | charon: if you spot any lolbugs etc (like bad strategy decisions you spot), please do me the favor of reporting them to me in any way at all :) right now Im not sure it works for every class. strategy for bear form single-target max threat building is coming when I get the rage estimation down, which hopefully will be done during this weekend |
| 23:33.56 | Zhinjio | oh. |
| 23:33.58 | Zhinjio | wait... |
| 23:34.11 | Zhinjio | so if (in the above example) addon.db.profile.blort is a VALUE and not a table |
| 23:34.15 | Zhinjio | it'll store the value |
| 23:34.19 | Zhinjio | is that right? |
| 23:34.45 | Zhinjio | and not a reference to the value? |
| 23:34.47 | charon | njal: sure, only issue is that i may or may not raid during the next few weeks (and i don't play outside of raids) |
| 23:35.10 | njal | hehe, I'm in it for the long run anyway :) |
| 23:35.17 | charon | though you could probably do a bear strat without rage estimation |
| 23:35.40 | NeoTron | njal: you know that they are removing powershifting as a way to get energy right? |
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| 23:36.03 | charon | it's like: mangle if possible; lacerate otherwise, or swipe if you're past t6 maybe; maul if >40 (or so) energy |
| 23:36.13 | Carancu | ... trying to board a ship from below wasn't liked by the server, it crashed. |
| 23:36.48 | njal | NeoTron: havent paid attention. but we'll see how it ends up playing out, its not an integral part of the addon, its only like 2 lines in the default feral strategy :) |
| 23:37.23 | njal | charon: mauls priority will change in wotlk I think, since it has gotten a massive boost in dmg and threat generation from what I've seen |
| 23:37.52 | charon | what, you mean maul will be _more_ important? |
| 23:37.54 | njal | calculating swipe vs lacerate is pretty trivial, just gotta grab the numbers from somewhere |
| 23:38.01 | charon | that's going to be _so_ boring |
| 23:38.05 | njal | charon: yeah |
| 23:38.40 | njal | it has been hitting for the same as mangle on my druid last time I played it in northrend (level 71) |
| 23:39.03 | njal | not sure it will be more boring |
| 23:39.18 | njal | but definately changes the whole "no need for maul when building threat as an offtank" |
| 23:39.22 | NeoTron | njal: so how it'll work is that you will regen energy out of form |
| 23:39.34 | NeoTron | and when you shift in you get the min of (current energy, furor energy level) |
| 23:39.51 | njal | which "removes" our default way of building rage when not being hit on |
| 23:39.51 | FtH|Daemona | http://i37.tinypic.com/2j17fcm.jpg |
| 23:40.25 | njal | NeoTron: hmm.. you have the source? |
| 23:40.35 | NeoTron | note that that is energy. I am not sure how that'd work for rage if any difference at all |
| 23:40.59 | NeoTron | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/2/9023610487-energy-regen-change--intended.html |
| 23:43.11 | njal | guess its better that they remove it than rebalance around it |
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| 23:44.56 | charon | it's just funny that something "never intended" sneaks in and does, by my own guesstimate, a 20%ish damage increase |
| 23:45.01 | smcn | i never raided on my feral but i always hated the idea of pshifting :P seems like a gimmick much like haste weapon switching/idol switching |
| 23:45.06 | charon | even if it's only 10%, that's horrible |
| 23:45.12 | njal | hehe |
| 23:45.16 | NeoTron | njal: doesn't some like a huge nerf imho |
| 23:45.23 | njal | WTB [Talent: Off-Paw Attacks] |
| 23:45.37 | njal | NeoTron: nah, its offset pretty much by the tigers fury buff |
| 23:45.43 | njal | which is downright awesome |
| 23:46.55 | smcn | man i almost want to play my feral now instead of my dk, but it's too early to do the HF/BT quests again :( don't want to get burned out on northrend before launch |
| 23:47.04 | NeoTron | I always figured kitty druids should dual-paw |
| 23:48.07 | njal | NeoTron: and bears should get a [Back Kick] |
| 23:48.13 | charon | [Bite through cervical artery]? |
| 23:48.21 | njal | lots of unused muscles in those thighs atm |
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| 23:49.18 | NeoTron | njal: rear-facing attack single random target attack? :P |
| 23:49.36 | njal | with a small kickback? :) |
| 23:49.53 | FtH|Daemona | pfff if you use an offclaw attack, you gonna tip front over ;) |
| 23:50.15 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking the same thing |
| 23:50.22 | Arrowmaster | unless its a special attack |
| 23:50.25 | njal | valid points |
| 23:50.37 | Arrowmaster | i mean you ever fight with a cat? |
| 23:53.13 | charon | would be funny if they made attacks that go with a risk |
| 23:53.24 | Arrowmaster | they do |
| 23:53.29 | Arrowmaster | its called engineering |
| 23:53.29 | charon | e.g. an attack with both paws at the same time. if you hit, extra damage, if you miss, you waste some time getting to your feet again |
| 23:53.56 | charon | indeed, right |
| 23:58.39 | FtH|Daemona | muticat ? |
| 23:58.41 | FtH|Daemona | -.- |
