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| 00:06.08 | CIA-25 | squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * r92ca871 10/ : Weekly build 3.0.1.6-Release - http://is.gd/260n |
| 00:06.14 | CIA-25 | squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * rd4d45bb 10/ : Merge commit '3.0.1.6-Release' - http://is.gd/260o |
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| 00:18.10 | CIA-25 | Version 2.02 - |
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| 00:32.25 | Ackis | Ravenholdt: Honored - 11999/12000 (100.0%) Done with the mob grind finally! |
| 00:33.11 | vithos | none of the Quartz branches have any WotLK fixes do they? |
| 00:33.53 | smcn | quarz is working fine for me, had to tool around with the buff module but the rest of it worked out of box |
| 00:33.59 | break19 | ackis, so, uhm, what's the point of ravenholt/ |
| 00:34.31 | vithos | the player castbar seems to disappear when you fail to cast something because there's already a cast in progress |
| 00:34.37 | vithos | and yeah, the buff module |
| 00:34.47 | smcn | hmm |
| 00:35.23 | smcn | heh, guess i should have said it works fine for me as a dk where the only spell with a casting time is hearthstone ;0 |
| 00:38.25 | break19 | l2test :p |
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| 00:42.00 | Polarina | Blue said "Indeed we do, and it will be released on the 25th of When it's Ready. " for WotLK. |
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| 01:00.13 | CIA-25 | squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * r78ccecc 10/ (Config.lua Squeenix.lua): Fix config subpanel order - http://is.gd/264a |
| 01:02.56 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r82e2181 10/ Cork.toc : TOC metadata - http://is.gd/264f |
| 01:03.02 | CIA-25 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r269d3dd 10/ Cork.lua : Add about panel - http://is.gd/264h |
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| 02:00.01 | CIA-25 | 037destiny * r81208 10LibBabble-Boss-3.0/LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: koKR Update |
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| 02:07.42 | break19 | hey, anyone know if there's a rep vendor in gadget? |
| 02:07.52 | break19 | or booty bay? |
| 02:08.39 | Wobin | rep? |
| 02:08.44 | nocts | Where is haste's most recent hosting location? |
| 02:09.42 | binder | best desktop linux distro, fedora or unbuntu? |
| 02:09.46 | binder | or better* |
| 02:10.17 | binder | not sure if netbsd is still something I wanna run on everything lol |
| 02:10.18 | Wobin | better for what? |
| 02:10.29 | binder | just in general |
| 02:10.34 | Wobin | I like ubuntu cause it's easy |
| 02:10.41 | binder | packages |
| 02:10.44 | binder | etc |
| 02:10.45 | Wobin | and that's how I roll |
| 02:10.45 | nocts | binder: Not fair. |
| 02:10.48 | nocts | Not enough choices. |
| 02:10.49 | binder | low on bloat |
| 02:11.06 | binder | better between the two is what I'm asking |
| 02:11.14 | binder | I used to run slackware in the 3.x days |
| 02:11.19 | nocts | Fedora is more of a testing ground for Redhat. |
| 02:11.29 | Wobin | apt-get ensures that anything with apt-get gets my vote |
| 02:11.32 | nocts | Then again, ubuntu tends to make things more difficult than they are. |
| 02:26.13 | Odlaw | hrm... is there a function to check someone else's title? |
| 02:26.33 | Odlaw | i wanna make a mod to laugh at people who get the 'first to' titles :) |
| 02:26.39 | Odlaw | no lifers |
| 02:28.46 | Wobin | probably not |
| 02:28.56 | Wobin | well unless they have the title applied |
| 02:29.02 | Odlaw | ya |
| 02:29.30 | Odlaw | i saw ones that checks if it's a valid title for me, and to set the title, but not check their title |
| 02:34.54 | Odlaw | oh.. maybe i can use the accomplishment functions.. i think they added something that i can use. |
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| 02:36.17 | Odlaw | or i was just dreaming.. hrm |
| 02:42.31 | kadrahil | vithos |
| 02:42.36 | kadrahil | i finally got my t6 chest :D |
| 02:42.38 | kadrahil | so happy |
| 02:43.01 | break19 | emerge ftw |
| 02:44.41 | Odlaw | ah founds it :) |
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| 02:45.12 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 02:45.12 | CIA-25 | - Update locale koKR |
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| 03:00.20 | Antiarc | So |
| 03:00.23 | Antiarc | A ponderance |
| 03:00.31 | Antiarc | Could we like |
| 03:00.36 | WobWork | Yes? |
| 03:00.39 | Xinhuan | kill Fisker-? |
| 03:00.39 | Xinhuan | YES |
| 03:00.40 | Antiarc | USe the previous year in the guild calendar as a guild database store? |
| 03:00.49 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 03:00.54 | Antiarc | Why not? |
| 03:00.58 | Xinhuan | you can't create notes for dates before the current day |
| 03:01.09 | Aiiane | use 2 years in the future? |
| 03:01.11 | Antiarc | okay, then what about like 2036 |
| 03:01.26 | Aiiane | or that |
| 03:01.27 | Xinhuan | i think the calender on server side only runs about 3 years ahead |
| 03:01.30 | Xinhuan | at max |
| 03:01.32 | Antiarc | I'm thinking about a custom guild achievement system |
| 03:01.35 | Aiiane | well, use 2-3 years in the future then |
| 03:01.40 | Antiarc | Where a guild master could define guild achievements |
| 03:01.46 | Antiarc | And use the guild calendar as a store for them |
| 03:01.52 | Xinhuan | i once tried to page forward a few years and the weekly events stopped showing up beyond a certain year |
| 03:01.59 | Xinhuan | like the BG stuff |
| 03:02.28 | Xinhuan | it could be possible i guess, but that would be abuse indeed |
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| 03:15.26 | Antiarc | abuse schmabuse |
| 03:15.32 | Antiarc | It's a shared guild data store |
| 03:15.35 | Antiarc | Which solves a bunch of problems |
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| 03:18.12 | erikh | heh |
| 03:18.50 | erikh | it still amazes me that blizz (seemingly) always adds the gui first, and the protocols second |
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| 03:18.51 | erikh | you'd think it'd be cheaper to do it the other way around |
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| 04:05.06 | Neffi | Addons registered through AceAddon 3.0 inherit :NewAddon and :GetAddon for new modules, right? |
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| 04:10.20 | Jygga | uhm, coming back from a loooong vacation, should we use that curse thing now? whats the status? thanks in advance, im too sleepy to read up on forum now, if you are too sleepy to answer ill try to find energy to do so tomorrow :) |
| 04:10.56 | Neffi | Apparently not |
| 04:11.23 | Ackis | Jygga: there's a beta version out but the official move hasn't occured yet |
| 04:11.31 | Neffi | I'm way too tired to dig through code to figure it out.. How do I register modules to a parent addon with AceAddon-3.0? |
| 04:11.51 | Neffi | The page says ModuleCore is deprecated and AceAddon handles modules (like addons) |
| 04:12.04 | starlon | :NewModule I believe |
| 04:12.35 | Neffi | Doesn't exist |
| 04:12.43 | Neffi | Should I be including AceAddon-3.0 as a mixin? |
| 04:13.03 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:13.27 | Neffi | How much harm would it do if I did? lol |
| 04:13.28 | Arrowmaster | and it is :NewModule() |
| 04:13.45 | Jygga | okay thank you Ackis |
| 04:13.49 | Neffi | A test addon created through AceAddon-3.0 doesn't have :NewModule available... |
| 04:14.16 | Jygga | is it "any time soon" or "when this bitch gets mature" ? |
| 04:14.19 | Neffi | Oh, wait. My mistake. |
| 04:14.22 | Neffi | Wrong error |
| 04:14.25 | steev | !seen ellipsis |
| 04:14.36 | steev | Ellipsis: around? |
| 04:15.03 | steev | Ellipsis: just had it happen at the end of heroic arc - on the imp who switches around targets constantly |
| 04:16.27 | steev | Ellipsis: i seem to be getting memory allocation errors... so, maybe its not the addon specifically |
| 04:16.57 | Neffi | Any table can theoretically be included as a mixin to NewModule and NewAddon, right? |
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| 04:24.08 | steev | Ellipsis: if you want to - only way i could get the errors because of the fact that the keyboard mostly stops working - can't seem to hit enter, and i have to hard reboot the computer since alt+f4 doesn't seem to kill the game |
| 04:24.31 | steev | Ellipsis: http://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoW/errors is a bunch of screenshots of the various errors that show up in bugsack |
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| 04:25.28 | steev | er - the first one is all my cowtip texts, the second one is from when in ZA |
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| 04:27.28 | Zhinjio | have I mentioned that I hate scrollframes? |
| 04:27.37 | Zhinjio | well, let me tell you. I fucking hate scrollframes. |
| 04:27.48 | Zhinjio | </rant> |
| 04:28.01 | omniwolf | anyone here who develops the fu_skillsplusFu addon? |
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| 04:41.07 | Neffi | Anyone know of any timer addons _at least as_ configurable as DoTimer that're being regularly updated? |
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| 04:41.53 | Neffi | Or hell, just anything that'll track all effects, display multiple targets, and *allow me to hide the statusbar* |
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| 04:45.51 | omniwolf | whats wrong with dotimer? |
| 04:46.15 | Neffi | It's not being updated |
| 04:46.20 | Neffi | Wrath will hit and it'll break |
| 04:46.40 | omniwolf | oh right. thats not for ages.. why worry? dotimer still works fine now |
| 04:47.00 | Neffi | 2-3 months isn't ages =( |
| 04:47.10 | omniwolf | in the addons world it is |
| 04:47.57 | omniwolf | if the addon devs were paid for it.. then fair enough i'd expect some kind of update schedule.. but its just random people contributing what they can. i'd just wait and see what happens personally |
| 04:48.50 | Neffi | I'm also partly disappointed it still checks unit debuffs. I'd like something that makes use of the combat log, so it picks things up more accurately. |
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| 05:18.33 | Ellipsis | steev: great, at least we have something to go on now :P I appreciate it |
| 05:20.35 | Aens|Superiority | anyone here good with excel? |
| 05:21.39 | CIA-25 | 03zhinjio * r81210 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 05:21.39 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 05:21.39 | CIA-25 | - newgui: omg new scrollframe works |
| 05:23.11 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81211 10AckisRecipeList/ARLDataminer.lua: |
| 05:23.11 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 05:23.11 | CIA-25 | - Dataminer update |
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| 05:31.08 | steev | Ellipsis: sorry, couldn't exit the game, so |
| 05:31.17 | Ellipsis | I understand |
| 05:31.19 | steev | i took screenshots of all the messages heh |
| 05:31.27 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 05:31.29 | steev | since i knew i'd have to hard reboot the computer |
| 05:31.33 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 05:31.42 | steev | and when that happens, it doesn't write the files :( |
| 05:32.04 | Ellipsis | well, it worked, we have some information now ^-^ |
| 05:32.13 | Ellipsis | unfortunately those errors are silly weird |
| 05:32.37 | Ellipsis | memory allocation errors from seemingly random and unrelated bits of code, and 698x attempt to call a nil value with no other information x.x |
| 05:32.56 | Ellipsis | which means I get to go find out what all those unrelated bits of code have in common! |
| 05:44.14 | steev | WTF |
| 05:44.16 | steev | FUCK YOU BLIZ |
| 05:44.39 | steev | our best attempt at hex lord... and BAM |
| 05:44.42 | steev | server down |
| 05:45.07 | steev | er no |
| 05:45.08 | steev | not down |
| 05:45.11 | steev | just massive lag |
| 05:45.18 | Ellipsis | how the hell does frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) cause a memory allocation error: block too big? |
| 05:45.36 | steev | was interesting to see him reset, and then about a minute later, where he was standing, consecrate shows up |
| 05:47.26 | steev | and i have no idea :) |
| 05:47.41 | Ellipsis | I mean seriously, there's nothing to allocate |
| 05:47.57 | steev | for the moment - i've removed that line from cowtip so hopefully it happens again - just, not while in ZA ;) |
| 05:55.20 | Ellipsis | steev: could I trouble you to grab a full addon list for me (with version #s if possible)? |
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| 05:55.32 | steev | hrm |
| 05:55.37 | steev | thats asking so much... :-P |
| 05:55.38 | Ellipsis | the only explanation for the way this error is occuring is that something, somewhere, is hooking :SetScript() |
| 05:55.41 | steev | of course i can |
| 05:56.13 | steev | gonna take a bit, lots of addons :( (not using externals) |
| 05:56.23 | Ellipsis | no worries, take your time |
| 05:56.24 | steev | you want just enabled ones? |
| 05:56.34 | Ellipsis | yeah, that's fine |
| 05:58.38 | steev | eh |
| 05:58.54 | steev | doesn't matter cuz i have no idea what libs are required for what so yeah, ill just go through the full list |
| 05:59.06 | Ellipsis | kk |
| 05:59.33 | steev | what does X-RelSite-WoWI:5995 mean? |
| 05:59.56 | Ellipsis | just a link to the addon page on wowi |
| 06:00.12 | steev | ugh |
| 06:00.18 | steev | some of these addons have externals :( |
| 06:00.35 | Ellipsis | don't worry about the libs |
| 06:01.08 | Ellipsis | mostly I just need to know the addons themselves, if I don't find an answer there I can figure out which libs each one uses |
| 06:01.37 | omniwolf | would it be easier if he just zips up his addons directory and uploads it somewhere? |
| 06:02.09 | Ellipsis | hm...possibly ^-^ |
| 06:02.16 | Ellipsis | unless he has a ton of addons in there he doesn't actually use |
| 06:02.47 | omniwolf | should be easy to exclude from the zip |
| 06:04.30 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: are you working on cowtip atm ? |
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| 06:06.22 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: why do I get the feeling that question is going to be a trap :P |
| 06:06.41 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: because you're paranoid ? |
| 06:06.47 | Ellipsis | lol, fine |
| 06:07.27 | Adirelle | I just wanted to point out that it doesn't load when you disable loding feature of librock libraries |
| 06:07.35 | Adirelle | (what I did because beta has lod issues) |
| 06:08.03 | Ellipsis | most rock addons don't :P |
| 06:08.09 | Ellipsis | addons like their libs |
| 06:08.20 | Adirelle | you don't get it |
| 06:08.33 | Ellipsis | I suppose not |
| 06:08.41 | Adirelle | when I disable "lod feature", not "lod librairies", e.g. they are *always* loaded |
| 06:08.44 | steev | Ellipsis: creating a rar, that okay? |
| 06:08.52 | Ellipsis | steev: sure thing |
| 06:09.14 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: I don't know what you mean by disabling the lod feature...is there some option for that I've never noticed? |
| 06:09.46 | steev | Ellipsis: its 22mb :( |
| 06:09.57 | Aiiane | rapidshare ftw? |
| 06:10.05 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: for f in */*.toc; do sed -e 's/## LoadOnDemand/## X-AlwaysLoad/' $f >$f.2 && mv $f.2 $f; done |
| 06:10.32 | starlon | Anyone know the name of that annoying error frame in wotlk? The one that keeps informing me of missing minimap textures? |
| 06:10.34 | Adirelle | just modified all the tocs so all libraries becomes "flat" loaded addons |
| 06:10.35 | Ellipsis | X-Always-Load? |
| 06:10.50 | steev | why would i use rapidshare? i have my own website |
| 06:10.50 | Adirelle | = "X-Blizzard-Dont-Care" |
| 06:11.00 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: is that some kind of flag to addonloader though? |
| 06:11.10 | Adirelle | I don't think either |
| 06:11.32 | Ellipsis | hm |
| 06:11.37 | Adirelle | I make things more complicated, in fact, I wanted to keep track of which addon was lod |
| 06:11.55 | Adirelle | it works the same with sed -e '/## LoadOnDemand/d', e.g. delete the lines |
| 06:12.00 | Ellipsis | I'll look into it, but for the record modifying tocs is just as bad as modifying code - you break it you buy it ;) |
| 06:12.29 | Adirelle | actually Nevcariel adviced (sp?) to do so because the Beta has Lod issues |
| 06:12.43 | steev | *sigh* |
| 06:12.46 | Ellipsis | yes but a cleaner workaround for that is to toc bump everything so they lod properly ;P |
| 06:12.49 | steev | so fail at hex lord |
| 06:13.35 | Adirelle | er... you mean that with "load outdated addon" checked, it randomly doesn't load some addons ? |
| 06:14.02 | Ellipsis | no |
| 06:14.02 | omniwolf | i hate hex lord. it was good when it was bugged :) |
| 06:14.09 | Adirelle | I mean, I disembedded all libraries, 95% have TOC 20400 and LoadOnDemand, and like two of them don't load |
| 06:14.15 | Ellipsis | I mean that with "load outdated addons" checked, it still doesn't lod out of date lod addons |
| 06:14.21 | Adirelle | but all others are fine |
| 06:14.36 | Adirelle | checks the other tocs |
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| 06:19.15 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: so i have 56 addon directorys in Addons (beside Blizzards'), only 11 of them have Interface: 30000 (mostly Tullers' ones), 33 are loding libraries, but only 2 librairies don't load properly |
| 06:20.29 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
| 06:20.31 | Ellipsis | dunno then |
| 06:20.41 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: bug ? ^^ |
| 06:20.43 | Ellipsis | I don't have any lod stuff on beta |
| 06:21.28 | Adirelle | but anyway, the point is that cowtip (but I guess other rock addons does the same) only lists librock in optdeps and then counts on librock to load the other rock libraries (like librockdb) |
| 06:22.03 | Adirelle | when you disable the lod feature be removing the loadondemand line from .toc, that fails |
| 06:22.04 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: which works fine as long as users don't mess with the code. |
| 06:22.11 | Ellipsis | you break it, you buy it |
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| 06:22.42 | Adirelle | the workaround being : copy librock* to optdeps and voila |
| 06:22.55 | Ellipsis | good |
| 06:23.01 | Ellipsis | since you can edit tocs you can fix your own mistakes :) |
| 06:23.53 | steev | fuck beans |
| 06:23.55 | steev | 40g repair bill |
| 06:24.03 | *** join/#wowace Groktar (n=Groktar_@76-236-38-194.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:24.08 | steev | I WEAR MAIL GOD DAMN IT |
| 06:24.19 | Ellipsis | ~comfort steev |
| 06:24.20 | purl | There, there, steev. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 06:24.20 | Adirelle | hmm... all rock addons do the same |
| 06:24.31 | Adirelle | I definitively don't like librock design |
| 06:24.42 | Groktar | bleeds all over steev's mail, causing it to rust rapidly |
| 06:24.47 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: it's not a design issue, it's the fact that you edit some parts of tocs and don't edit others to match |
| 06:25.01 | Ellipsis | you can't blame rock when it works just fine as long as you leave it alone |
| 06:25.01 | steev | 40g 40s 50c |
| 06:25.12 | Groktar | ur [p |
| 06:25.16 | Groktar | ur po' |
| 06:25.17 | Ellipsis | you're messing with stuff without knowing how it works, and then blaming rock when it breaks |
| 06:25.21 | steev | psh |
| 06:25.27 | steev | my repair bill comes outta the gb |
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| 06:26.22 | Adirelle | actually I'm not an user, I'm a developper, I'm messing with addons and Ace stuff since 2 years |
| 06:26.28 | Groktar | i enjoyed going from 55g repair bills on my warrior in bt/hyjal gear to 22g repair bills on my priest's sunwell gear |
| 06:26.33 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: I'm aware of that. |
| 06:26.49 | Ellipsis | but if you edit one toc to remove its LoD, you can edit another toc to update its dependencies to work with that |
| 06:27.05 | Ellipsis | it's not rock's fault you're doing something that is not intended |
| 06:27.07 | Adirelle | I knew what I was doing, but I didn't knew that librock did such kind of things |
| 06:27.20 | Ellipsis | librock automatically loads requested libs just like ace2 |
| 06:28.01 | Adirelle | yes, it's on the list of things that librock do and that I don't like |
| 06:28.13 | Ellipsis | then don't use it |
| 06:28.15 | Ellipsis | shrugs |
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| 06:28.59 | CIA-25 | picogroup: 03Tekkub 07master * r0722e25 10/ (4 files): File rename - http://is.gd/26nP |
| 06:29.01 | CIA-25 | picogroup: 03Tekkub 07master * r672a657 10/ (51 files in 15 dirs): Remove all that shit I don't need, add the shit I do - http://is.gd/26nQ |
| 06:29.16 | Adirelle | even if I really don't like rock, I have to admin that ckknights' addons are awesome |
| 06:29.26 | Adirelle | so that's why I'm using it |
| 06:29.45 | steev | Ellipsis: http://steev.net/files/steev-addons.rar |
| 06:30.17 | Ellipsis | <3 |
| 06:30.21 | Aiiane | just because ckknight's addons are nice doesn't mean you have to kowtow :P |
| 06:30.33 | Ellipsis | you now get an entire folder on my hard drive just for your UI, steev - you should feel honored |
| 06:30.42 | steev | woo |
| 06:30.53 | steev | i didn't give you my wtf folder, just all the addons themselves |
| 06:30.56 | Adirelle | Aiiane: kowtow ??? |
| 06:31.11 | Ellipsis | steev: that's ok, I'll just have to keylog you when you configure them ;) |
| 06:31.18 | steev | heh |
| 06:31.41 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: if you don't like the framework as a developer, fine...don't be a developer when dealing with it |
| 06:31.48 | Ellipsis | just use the addons as they were intended like a good little user :) |
| 06:32.32 | Aiiane | Adirelle: just another way of saying you can like his addons w/o having to do everything his way |
| 06:32.51 | Groktar | wildly commits unwanted changes to Ellipsis' addons |
| 06:32.52 | Tekkub | in short, don't be a damn lemming |
| 06:33.25 | Ellipsis | good lord steev, that's a lot of stuff :P |
| 06:33.54 | Ellipsis | Groktar: fortunately you can't, the only place my addons exist is gcode ;) |
| 06:34.14 | Ellipsis | well, and my hard drive of course...and sometimes in my ehad |
| 06:34.16 | Ellipsis | head* |
| 06:34.35 | steev | Ellipsis: http://steev.net/files/WTF.rar usual changes apply wrt renaming account/server/charname |
| 06:34.44 | steev | Ellipsis: yeah i know |
| 06:34.46 | Thrae | Tekkub: Your sentence looked perfect in another discussion I was having regarding the difference between Conservativism and Neo-Conservatism. |
| 06:34.51 | steev | thats what i get for not using externals :( |
| 06:35.05 | steev | but i have some mods for some classes, some for others blah blah blah |
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| 06:36.33 | steev | although that probably doesn't have the last line of text in it anymore for cowtip |
| 06:36.42 | steev | the [Exists(Target?) blah blah] |
| 06:36.44 | Adirelle | Aiiane: just didn't know the meaning of the work "kowtow", that's fixed now ^^ |
| 06:37.03 | Ellipsis | steev: all right, thanks for the help |
| 06:37.14 | steev | likewise |
| 06:37.17 | Ellipsis | wanders off to wade through lots and lots of code |
| 06:37.20 | steev | the only thing i can think |
| 06:37.46 | steev | would be to sorta use my interface (have a ret pally? :-P) and find a mob that switches targets a lot and keep the mouse over him |
| 06:38.15 | Ellipsis | I could probably make that happen |
| 06:38.19 | Ellipsis | silly as it sounds |
| 06:38.32 | Adirelle | Tekkub: I'm capable of changing things but sometimes I choose not to because it wouldn't worth it |
| 06:40.06 | Adirelle | considering librock, changing things I don't like would mean porting the addons to ace3, and I think it's a really big work for little added value |
| 06:40.57 | steev | Ellipsis: heroic arc... with the imp |
| 06:41.10 | steev | or maybe blood furnace with the groups of imps |
| 06:41.18 | Adirelle | now if I find an ace3-based tooltip addon that does what cowtip and dogtag do, I'll drop cowtip |
| 06:41.50 | Ellipsis | steev: any idea if it could happen with players too? |
| 06:41.53 | Adirelle | but chances are I'm stuck with cowtip for long |
| 06:42.04 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: you could write one ;P |
| 06:42.10 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: ahah |
| 06:42.13 | steev | it probably would work in a bg or something yeah |
| 06:42.17 | omniwolf | Ellipsis: i'm using tiptac, do you know it? what would be your arguements against using it? |
| 06:42.31 | steev | omniwolf: its not cowtip |
| 06:42.33 | Ellipsis | omniwolf: never used it, can't say whether I would or wouldn't like it :) |
| 06:42.34 | Adirelle | Ellipsis: with a work, a wife and a baby, I don't have enough spare time to |
| 06:42.41 | Ellipsis | Adirelle: then quit yer whining ;P |
| 06:42.43 | omniwolf | ok |
| 06:42.50 | steev | Adirelle: time on irc = time to code |
| 06:43.55 | steev | looks like we are getting ready to try again *sigh* |
| 06:44.13 | Arrowmaster | i use tinytip..... |
| 06:44.36 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: I'm sorry. |
| 06:44.48 | Adirelle | steev: not enough time to code anything well, I wasn't supposed to stay on IRC so long this morning, I have to go working |
| 06:44.49 | omniwolf | i used to use tinytip, but there was a bug for months on it, so i went to tiptac |
| 06:44.50 | Ellipsis | you should be! :P |
| 06:45.03 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: i know you broke parts of it so badly, like the config |
| 06:45.03 | Adirelle | so, later |
| 06:45.06 | nevcairiel | tinytip works fine for me |
| 06:45.09 | Ellipsis | I like how omniwolf specifically directed his question at me and everyone else came out of stealth to answer it ;) |
| 06:45.11 | nevcairiel | (who needs configu) |
| 06:45.24 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: you should see what i had to do to get it working on beta |
| 06:45.38 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: i just copied mine, wtf did you do :P |
| 06:45.40 | Arrowmaster | omniwolf: was never buged |
| 06:45.40 | omniwolf | is cowtip coded for small resource usage? my addons sit at 50-60mb usage and i think it must slow my UI down |
| 06:45.45 | Thrae | I didn't break the config, it was Ace3. But that config has to go. |
| 06:45.51 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i dont use externals |
| 06:46.04 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: i swear some of the settings are off |
| 06:46.04 | nevcairiel | tinytip uses libraries? |
| 06:46.05 | omniwolf | Arrowmaster: i could never open the options screen. for month with updates |
| 06:46.15 | nevcairiel | i use hardcoded config in files |
| 06:46.18 | nevcairiel | never used the config addon |
| 06:46.25 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: it uses modules where are seperate addons unless you use externals |
| 06:46.37 | Arrowmaster | omniwolf: oh you mean by trying to type /tinytip? |
| 06:46.52 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: see, i dont use the "TinyTip" core that acts as a load manager |
| 06:46.58 | nevcairiel | i just sue the two modules i need |
| 06:47.03 | omniwolf | yep |
| 06:47.04 | nevcairiel | Basic and Positioning |
| 06:47.11 | Arrowmaster | omniwolf: that was removed a long time ago |
| 06:47.36 | omniwolf | *shrug* well it should't pop an error :) doesn't really matter.. i've found something else |
| 06:47.37 | Arrowmaster | its in interface options |
| 06:47.44 | Thrae | flees. |
| 06:48.13 | Arrowmaster | yeah it was silly that it poped up an error and made everybody that didnt know better run screaming that it was broken and unusable when if you just looked at the interface options window it was right there |
| 06:48.15 | omniwolf | Ellipsis: did u see my question? |
| 06:48.38 | Ellipsis | omniwolf: nobody designs software to be a resource hog |
| 06:48.40 | omniwolf | yeah, took me a long time to find that interface section for addons.. so many addons had me scratching my head about where to configure them |
| 06:48.59 | Ellipsis | cowtip is coded to do what it does with the cleanest, lightest code possible |
| 06:49.06 | Ellipsis | it's up to you whether it does too much, not enough, or just what you want |
| 06:49.06 | omniwolf | Ellipsis: true, but some code it to be packed full of features and pretty colours, whereas some concentrate on keeping it tight |
| 06:49.12 | Arrowmaster | Ellipsis: LOL |
| 06:49.25 | Ellipsis | however the addon is modular so you can disable/delete the parts you don't want |
| 06:49.54 | omniwolf | mm.. i have tried it a long time ago and i think it didn't do buffs on the tool tips or something, so i didn't like it. i might give it another shot. i think tinytip might be a resource hog |
| 06:50.08 | Ellipsis | it doesn't have buff icons for moused over units, no |
| 06:50.20 | Ellipsis | you can add text strings for specific buffs you're interested in using dogtag, though |
| 06:50.35 | steev | fuck this damn boss |
| 06:50.59 | steev | i want to be on my rogue not my healer |
| 06:51.05 | omniwolf | hmm who knows if i really need to see buffs though. |
| 06:51.07 | CIA-25 | vendorbait: 03Tekkub 07master * r488edad 10/ VendorBait.lua : Fix for border appearing outside the quest turnin window - http://is.gd/26p2 |
| 06:51.23 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81212 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 06:51.23 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 06:51.23 | CIA-25 | - Default sort value is localized version |
| 06:51.24 | CIA-25 | - If you have any bugs with the mod, delete your saved vars OR reselect the sorting option please |
| 06:51.24 | CIA-25 | ~love Zhinjio |
| 06:51.26 | purl | If you love Zhinjio so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh) |
| 06:51.36 | steev | but our other good healer is on his mage for the spellsteal |
| 06:51.58 | omniwolf | what server are u on |
| 06:52.01 | Ellipsis | yeah Ackis, why don't you marry Zhinjio? I'd totally attend the wedding |
| 06:53.47 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:54.03 | steev | draka |
| 06:54.13 | Ackis | lol Ellipsis |
| 06:54.19 | steev | its pve |
| 06:54.28 | omniwolf | k |
| 06:54.31 | steev | im kinda stuck there since the gf doesn't wanna move |
| 06:55.34 | omniwolf | mm my gf hates the game. im not sure if it would be good if she played tho.. we have a husband/wife team already and its not great for the guild dynamic |
| 06:56.28 | Ellipsis | I've never found it problematic to raid with my bf, it can be pretty handy to be able to choose who plays which character etc. |
| 06:56.47 | Groktar | joins your raid and stands in the nearest fire |
| 06:57.01 | Ellipsis | hopes Groktar has flippy installed |
| 06:57.40 | omniwolf | i guess. i suppose if both ppl are reasonable it would be ok. this husband/wife team are insane |
| 06:57.41 | Groktar | hopes Ellipsis is making a lewd suggestion |
| 06:57.56 | Ellipsis | when am I not? |
| 06:58.28 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
| 06:58.55 | Aiiane | I thought it was pkekyo| that Ellipsis was marrying |
| 06:59.04 | Aiiane | or is that just her manwhore |
| 06:59.39 | Aiiane | >.> |
| 06:59.40 | Ellipsis | Pkekyo| is just my internets toy |
| 06:59.49 | Ackis | i'm so tired |
| 07:00.01 | Groktar | heh, my cat is dreaming |
| 07:00.13 | Ackis | kick it |
| 07:00.16 | Groktar | he keeps making squeaky little meows |
| 07:00.17 | Ellipsis | meow |
| 07:00.30 | Fisker- | throws Ellipsis into a black hole |
| 07:01.09 | Ackis | kicks Fisker- and Groktar's cat. |
| 07:01.26 | Groktar | poor Beezer :( |
| 07:01.49 | Ackis | apparently I kicked my cat and dislocated/broke one of it's ribs |
| 07:01.55 | Groktar | o my |
| 07:02.06 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 07:02.12 | Ellipsis | remind me never to let you cat-sit for me, Ackis |
| 07:02.15 | Ackis | it wasn't a on purpose kick, it was a kitty got in my way and got booted |
| 07:02.18 | winkiller | good job! |
| 07:02.30 | Groktar | my cat got in a fight with the neighbors cat a couple weeks ago |
| 07:02.39 | Ackis | but he has a lump at the bottom of his rib cage and he squeaked for about 3 weeks after it happened |
| 07:02.46 | Groktar | i went outside and found them rolling around in the wet grass, completely soaked |
| 07:02.48 | winkiller | well, I've also kicked my dog several times |
| 07:03.04 | winkiller | you walk and then running between the legs |
| 07:03.12 | Ellipsis | Groktar: I'm going to choose to take that out of context since I didn't read the first line before it |
| 07:03.25 | Ackis | gives Ellipsis a room |
| 07:03.37 | Groktar | then last week i noticed a big patch of no fur on his left side |
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| 07:03.50 | Groktar | and when i looked closer there was a hole in his skin the side of a dime |
| 07:04.01 | Groktar | poor kitty :( |
| 07:04.30 | Groktar | he'd licked it so much that all the fur around it came off |
| 07:04.45 | Groktar | vet said that it starts out as a small puncture |
| 07:04.55 | Groktar | and then when it gets infected it breaks open |
| 07:05.12 | Ellipsis | aww, poor thing :( |
| 07:05.12 | Groktar | hate that cat next door |
| 07:05.18 | Wobin | kick it |
| 07:05.20 | Groktar | mine never leaves the back yard |
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| 07:05.26 | Ellipsis | or hire Ackis to kick it |
| 07:05.28 | Groktar | and that fucking cat keeps coming over and starting shit |
| 07:05.30 | Ellipsis | I hear he's good at that |
| 07:05.34 | Ackis | :P |
| 07:05.35 | Groktar | and giving me big vet bills |
| 07:05.40 | Ackis | kicks Ellipsis |
| 07:05.45 | Ellipsis | whimpers |
| 07:05.53 | Ackis | kicks her again. |
| 07:05.58 | Ellipsis | cries |
| 07:06.15 | Groktar | at least i haven't seen evil next door kitty back there since then |
| 07:06.19 | Ackis | cackles. |
| 07:06.24 | steev | rofl |
| 07:06.29 | Groktar | i may have whacked him on the head with my cat's food dish |
| 07:06.32 | steev | okay |
| 07:06.45 | Wobin | 'whoops' |
| 07:06.46 | steev | im sorry but people that thank me every time i rez them, are annoying |
| 07:06.48 | Groktar | and then chased him back and forth in the yard for a minute or door while hissing |
| 07:06.52 | steev | srsly |
| 07:07.00 | Wobin | steev: common courtesy? |
| 07:07.15 | Ackis | ~thank steev |
| 07:07.15 | purl | no problem, Ackis |
| 07:07.15 | steev | once or twice maybe, but cmon, its a friggin raid |
| 07:07.28 | Groktar | at least, i chased him until i tried to change direction a little too fast and landed on my ass |
| 07:07.39 | Wobin | Groktar: you got pwned |
| 07:07.46 | Groktar | from the aforementioned wet grass |
| 07:07.53 | Groktar | yup |
| 07:07.58 | Wobin | but you do have opposible thumbs |
| 07:08.02 | Groktar | hehe |
| 07:08.06 | Wobin | so you can throw things better at it |
| 07:08.15 | Groktar | i'm just hoping the fear of Groktar is enough to keep him out of the yard |
| 07:08.24 | Wobin | or get a water pistol |
| 07:08.29 | Groktar | well, i didn't want to throw things because i was going for the fear factor |
| 07:08.29 | Wobin | and fill it with bleach =P |
| 07:08.32 | Groktar | not trying to hurt it |
| 07:08.35 | steev | sweet |
| 07:08.41 | steev | this is the last attempt we are doing |
| 07:08.52 | Groktar | what are you running steev? |
| 07:08.56 | Wobin | gooo shammy |
| 07:09.01 | winkiller | steev: once in a while I also do that. now hat me :P |
| 07:09.54 | Wobin | hex lord, no? |
| 07:09.58 | steev | winkiller: once in a while - okay |
| 07:10.10 | steev | every time i rez you? no. just no. |
| 07:10.12 | Ellipsis | I usually /thank the first once or twice in a 5man |
| 07:10.14 | steev | hex lord, yes |
| 07:10.21 | steev | and yeah, my resto shaman |
| 07:10.23 | Wobin | I'll endeavour to flip you the birrd after the first three times |
| 07:10.24 | Ellipsis | in raids...well...only if it's something special (like I was in a very tricky spot) |
| 07:11.50 | Wobin | I'll thank the resser if they save me from a ridiculously long corpse run |
| 07:12.05 | Groktar | or when i was supposed to be running back |
| 07:12.13 | Wobin | yeah |
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| 07:12.44 | steev | ugh. |
| 07:12.51 | Groktar | how about when a warlock soulstones himself, hellfires to death |
| 07:12.52 | steev | damn los issues |
| 07:12.57 | Groktar | and then uses his cables on you |
| 07:12.59 | CIA-25 | 03nargiddley 07RC1 * r81213 10Ace3/ (2 files in 2 dirs): |
| 07:12.59 | CIA-25 | Ace3 |
| 07:12.59 | CIA-25 | - AceGUI: call widget:OnRelease before clearing events and userdata to allow OnMouseLeave events to fire as the frame is released |
| 07:12.59 | CIA-25 | - AceConfigDialog: :Close and :CloseAll are now safe to call from within callbacks. |
| 07:13.17 | Fisker- | attacks Wobin |
| 07:13.25 | Wobin | flip him the bird |
| 07:13.31 | Wobin | cause he didn't take equip damage |
| 07:13.33 | Fisker- | >:3? |
| 07:13.33 | Groktar | holds Wobin's arms behind his back |
| 07:13.36 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 07:13.42 | Fisker- | punches Wobin in the face |
| 07:13.47 | Fisker- | good work Groktar |
| 07:13.56 | Wobin | kicks Groktar in the head |
| 07:14.04 | Fisker- | you can't |
| 07:14.13 | Fisker- | cuts off Wobin's legs |
| 07:14.23 | Groktar | gives Wobin an anal probe |
| 07:14.25 | Wobin | oh. Fisker- |
| 07:14.28 | Wobin | you're still here |
| 07:14.32 | Wobin | I thought you buggered off ages ago |
| 07:14.36 | Fisker- | >:E |
| 07:14.45 | Wobin | pats Fisker- on the head |
| 07:14.46 | Ellipsis | Fisker- never dies |
| 07:14.49 | Wobin | now go play in the traffic |
| 07:15.02 | Wobin | and leave this discussion to normal people. |
| 07:15.08 | steev | is there a way to make range checking... do los as well? |
| 07:15.11 | Groktar | speaking of playing in traffic |
| 07:15.16 | Groktar | looks for a certain youtube video |
| 07:15.17 | Wobin | I don't think so |
| 07:15.21 | steev | actually, does grid have a range check cuz they all appear to be in range to me for some reason |
| 07:15.51 | Groktar | 25 seconds in -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2gLjfE_3Y |
| 07:16.00 | Groktar | i started laughing hysterically |
| 07:16.15 | Ellipsis | you should be able to enable range check in grid |
| 07:16.21 | Ellipsis | and it can't do los |
| 07:16.41 | Fisker- | how dramatic Groktar |
| 07:16.52 | Fisker- | "OH NOS COLLISION AT 1MPH I BETTER JUMP OUT OF THE CAR" |
| 07:17.00 | Groktar | hehe |
| 07:17.05 | Groktar | and then she almost gets hit by the next car |
| 07:17.09 | Fisker- | yeah :D |
| 07:17.15 | Fisker- | would've lol'd if she did |
| 07:17.20 | Groktar | wts [Darwin Award] |
| 07:17.31 | CIA-25 | 03sayclub * r81214 10LootDB/ (LootDB.toc lootdbLocals-koKR.lua): |
| 07:17.31 | CIA-25 | LootDB: |
| 07:17.31 | CIA-25 | - koKR translation added |
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| 07:32.17 | Arrowmaster | Groktar: holy fuck i found some crazy shit following related videos to that one you linked, like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V89LjrlcjMc&NR=1 |
| 07:36.14 | Groktar | wtf |
| 07:38.37 | Groktar | haha 4:46 |
| 07:39.52 | Arrowmaster | the part where he gets out? |
| 07:40.09 | Groktar | ya |
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| 07:51.47 | steev | someone make me an addon that ties into my gem crafting that hides all the crappy uncommon cuts and i only see epic/rares |
| 07:52.23 | Zyndrome | Skillet? |
| 07:53.40 | steev | hrm |
| 07:53.56 | CIA-25 | vendorbait: 03Tekkub 07master * r90bdc19 10/ VendorBait.lua : Rework to use the gem setting sparkles, since the autocast model thing is gone in Wrath - http://is.gd/26sD |
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| 08:01.34 | Xinhuan | steev: GemHelper ;p |
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| 08:05.06 | Groktar | eyes sacarasc's soul hungrily |
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| 08:09.04 | sacarasc | i have a soul now? |
| 08:09.16 | Lyn | O.O |
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| 08:09.54 | Zyndrome | SOOOOUUUUULLLLSSSSS |
| 08:09.56 | Zyndrome | om nom nom |
| 08:12.20 | orionshock | Tekkub: is tekKompare working in beta? |
| 08:12.40 | Lyn | :O |
| 08:14.16 | orionshock | LOL never mind, the change log explains everything |
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| 08:16.23 | Ellipsis | can has sacarasc's soul? |
| 08:17.01 | sacarasc | i think i have a spare one from an earlier escapade of mine... if i do, you can have it |
| 08:18.43 | Ellipsis | creates: [Soul Shard] |
| 08:19.28 | Thrae | Cat, my keyboard is not for sleeping on. |
| 08:19.42 | Ellipsis | clearly you do not think like a cat |
| 08:19.46 | Ellipsis | *everything* is for sleeping on |
| 08:23.35 | Funkeh` | yey for first day back at studies being miserable as fuck |
| 08:23.42 | Funkeh` | nothing beats our weather |
| 08:24.08 | Stanzilla | licks Funkeh` |
| 08:24.38 | Lyn | :O |
| 08:24.42 | Lyn | we have bad rainy weather |
| 08:24.48 | Zyndrome | sinep |
| 08:27.52 | Ellipsis | pets Funkeh` |
| 08:28.16 | steev | lulz |
| 08:28.28 | steev | horde tried to kill bolvar or whatever his name is |
| 08:28.42 | steev | adds more hks |
| 08:28.54 | steev | i wish there was a way to differentiate between world pvp hk's and bg hk's |
| 08:28.56 | Lyn | help him! bolvar is an ass! :D |
| 08:29.06 | VonhintenHOME` | bolvar is the shit |
| 08:29.16 | steev | they had him to 95% before we wiped em |
| 08:29.22 | Lyn | :< |
| 08:29.27 | Lyn | poor hordies |
| 08:29.35 | steev | i got to swing my new glaive around |
| 08:29.37 | steev | it was fun |
| 08:29.49 | steev | granted, can bandage between swings |
| 08:29.50 | Ellipsis | sounds dirty |
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| 08:29.57 | Lyn | :O |
| 08:30.03 | smcn | Dave2: |
| 08:30.05 | Lyn | off or main glaive? :O |
| 08:30.07 | smcn | er, lawl |
| 08:30.12 | steev | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2gLjfE_3Y |
| 08:30.15 | steev | er |
| 08:30.20 | steev | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28774 |
| 08:30.22 | steev | fucking windows |
| 08:30.28 | steev | why can't i select to copy in it |
| 08:30.39 | Lyn | ah |
| 08:30.40 | Lyn | this one |
| 08:30.52 | Lyn | i want this with my pally :x |
| 08:30.53 | steev | it even procced a few times :-D |
| 08:31.09 | steev | i have a 10 str, 8 str and 20 ap from mgt run gems in it |
| 08:31.59 | steev | damn it |
| 08:32.04 | steev | now they don't wanna play anymore |
| 08:32.16 | Lyn | hmmh.. hungry |
| 08:34.52 | VonhintenHOME` | lol, nice video there... fucking idiots trying to get out of the car and slow it down |
| 08:35.18 | VonhintenHOME` | anyone who's spent any time in the snow knows to stay the hell in the car when you're sliding |
| 08:36.01 | raegx | I like how in all the shots their wheels are locked |
| 08:36.14 | raegx | anyone who lives in the snow knows if you don't have anti lock breaks you pump |
| 08:36.19 | raegx | nubs |
| 08:36.42 | VonhintenHOME` | oh, there isn't a damn thing abs can do on that kind of shit |
| 08:36.52 | VonhintenHOME` | the cars are going to slam, that's all there is to it |
| 08:37.10 | raegx | just drive slow, thats my motto |
| 08:37.26 | raegx | I livein upstate ny and it can go from clear to whiteout instantly due to lake effect snow |
| 08:37.27 | VonhintenHOME` | that's some seriously slick ice.. they shouldn't have been driving |
| 08:37.40 | Punkie | can someone relink the vid? |
| 08:37.50 | Arrowmaster | i was wondering how many of those cars have ABS and which drivers know how to drive in snow without ABS |
| 08:37.51 | raegx | meh every year i see crash on the first few snow falls |
| 08:37.53 | winkiller | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM2gLjfE_3Y |
| 08:37.56 | raegx | most of them don't |
| 08:38.00 | raegx | abs would let the wheels turn |
| 08:38.05 | raegx | those wheels are dead locked |
| 08:38.13 | winkiller | silly americans |
| 08:38.44 | VonhintenHOME` | even if the wheels turned, it wouldn't have done anything, there is literally 0 traction on that shit |
| 08:38.46 | raegx | best is driving a light rear wheel car in the snow = D |
| 08:38.47 | Punkie | oh wow |
| 08:39.07 | VonhintenHOME` | good for doing donuts |
| 08:39.11 | raegx | possibly, if its icy enough, but those cars were plowing |
| 08:39.24 | VonhintenHOME` | good for doing donuts and then bending a rim cause you hit a fucking parking block you couldn't see... |
| 08:39.26 | raegx | there was enough snow to get some tractions, but most of those cars were going too fast |
| 08:39.31 | Punkie | i love how that 4x4 driver attempts to go slower by sliding sideways |
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| 08:39.38 | Pkekyo| | g'morning ladies |
| 08:39.41 | Arrowmaster | raegx: try a light duty pickup with a full bed like an f150 |
| 08:39.45 | Lyn | lol? one is jumping out of his car?! |
| 08:39.53 | raegx | @arrowmaster hahah no sandbags? |
| 08:40.11 | Arrowmaster | not me but my dad |
| 08:40.25 | Arrowmaster | but yeah he usually does end up with something like sandbags |
| 08:40.57 | raegx | I used to drive a 1983 bmw iS, it was fun as hell to drive, dry or snowy |
| 08:41.07 | Arrowmaster | i drive a front wheel drive coupe |
| 08:41.33 | Arrowmaster | but last winter it was still hell on the first snowfall since it snowed a lot |
| 08:41.34 | VonhintenHOME` | when they used to allow tire chains, they were pretty good at keeping a car from sliding like that... |
| 08:41.38 | VonhintenHOME` | but they chewed up the roads |
| 08:42.07 | raegx | I grew up in CA and they require chains up in the mountains where the snow is |
| 08:42.14 | raegx | in the Sierra Nevadas |
| 08:42.22 | raegx | they had stops and everything |
| 08:42.29 | raegx | now i'm in NY and it snows every year all over, no chains |
| 08:42.32 | VonhintenHOME` | high grade hills? |
| 08:42.53 | raegx | meh not really, it is steep in some places but the main roads are pretty level |
| 08:42.54 | Arrowmaster | more like cliffs on the edge of every road |
| 08:44.37 | raegx | COBOL: http://tinyurl.com/56dypc |
| 08:44.39 | Arrowmaster | this reminds me, i should probably get my breaks checked out again |
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| 08:45.21 | Arrowmaster | i drove around for like a year with my rear breaks almost completely dead |
| 08:46.09 | Punkie | smart |
| 08:46.21 | Arrowmaster | i didnt know they were out |
| 08:47.17 | Arrowmaster | only had it checked out because i was thinking there was gas in the breaklines |
| 08:47.27 | Ellipsis | so |
| 08:47.34 | Ellipsis | opera insists on crashing every few minutes |
| 08:47.39 | Ellipsis | firefox hogs more RAM than I can afford |
| 08:47.44 | Ellipsis | what do you guys recommend? |
| 08:47.48 | Arrowmaster | firefox |
| 08:47.49 | charon | lynx |
| 08:47.54 | Ellipsis | considering a text based browser now |
| 08:48.00 | Punkie | high-fives charon |
| 08:48.06 | Ellipsis | but I'd really like image capability |
| 08:48.11 | Arrowmaster | emacs? |
| 08:48.13 | Punkie | format |
| 08:48.23 | raegx | firefox3 |
| 08:48.24 | raegx | =D |
| 08:48.37 | Ellipsis | I just said, firefox hogs too much RAM |
| 08:48.38 | nevcairiel | wonders how much ram firefox can really use that you cannot afford it anymore, or if Ellipsis should just buy some more ram |
| 08:48.41 | charon | konqy |
| 08:48.50 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: I have only 1GB and I can't run firefox and wow together |
| 08:48.56 | Arrowmaster | try opening a 7mb xml file in firefox |
| 08:48.59 | raegx | my ff hovers ~150mb |
| 08:49.07 | Ellipsis | and no, I am not going to buy more ram so I can run a browser that doesn't know how to manage memory :) |
| 08:49.07 | nevcairiel | you should definately buy some ram, then |
| 08:49.16 | Ellipsis | I am building a new computer atm actually |
| 08:49.21 | nevcairiel | My wow uses up to 1GB alone |
| 08:49.25 | Ellipsis | so I just need to get by until then |
| 08:49.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah you cant really use any browser and wow at the same time |
| 08:49.47 | Ellipsis | I can with opera |
| 08:49.48 | Arrowmaster | with only 1gig |
| 08:49.51 | Ellipsis | when it doesn't cash :) |
| 08:49.52 | nocts | I can use any browser and WoW + another game just fine. |
| 08:49.52 | Ellipsis | crash* |
| 08:50.01 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: maybe its crashing due to not enough ram? =P |
| 08:50.04 | Ellipsis | no |
| 08:50.06 | nocts | And you should NEVER have to have an intended amount of ram just for a browser. |
| 08:50.17 | Ellipsis | I have nothing else open right now, it's crashing on a specific url |
| 08:50.19 | charon | suspects WoW will eventually page out _any_ other program unless you have like 8GB |
| 08:50.34 | nevcairiel | i have 4GB and its never full |
| 08:50.35 | Ellipsis | also it hangs CPU on certain kinds of javascript (jira, wowhead, and fisheye trigger this frequently) |
| 08:50.43 | Ellipsis | I just want a browser that works |
| 08:50.47 | Ellipsis | sighs |
| 08:50.54 | nevcairiel | firefox works (for me(tm)) |
| 08:50.55 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 08:50.56 | charon | nevcairiel: but are you sure it never pages out the rest? for disk cache and such? |
| 08:50.57 | nocts | The excuse of "buy more ram" is an example of lazy programming design and it shouldn't be perpetuated. |
| 08:51.03 | nocts | Firefox died the day it changed from Phoenix. |
| 08:51.07 | nocts | It's over with. |
| 08:51.24 | nevcairiel | charon: well you can never be 100% sure, but the remaining system doesnt start to crawl when i have WoW open |
| 08:51.25 | Arrowmaster | you mean firebird? |
| 08:51.33 | Ellipsis | "your addon updater uses 500MB RAM, I can't use it on my machine!" "well then buy more RAM" |
| 08:51.40 | nocts | No, I mean phoenix. |
| 08:51.59 | nevcairiel | well if someone has 1GB these days and expects to do anything while WoW is open |
| 08:52.03 | winkiller | my wow never has more than 700mb |
| 08:52.04 | nevcairiel | Yes i do tell them to get more ram |
| 08:52.06 | nocts | They should be able to do it. |
| 08:52.06 | Ellipsis | now, as for the original question I asked |
| 08:52.11 | Arrowmaster | meh i used mozilla up until i switched to ff3, never used ff1 or 2 |
| 08:52.15 | Ellipsis | do you all have any non-firefox, non-opera, non-IE (obviously) recommendations? |
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| 08:52.24 | nevcairiel | for windows? none :P |
| 08:52.25 | raegx | I believe you can configure FF to use less memory |
| 08:52.27 | winkiller | is there anything else? :P |
| 08:52.31 | nocts | oh ffs. |
| 08:52.34 | raegx | you just have to realize you will have more hard access times |
| 08:52.37 | winkiller | swiftweasel! |
| 08:52.47 | Arrowmaster | its called use less tabs |
| 08:52.48 | Ellipsis | raegx: my hard drive is the bottleneck on this system, so I can't do that either |
| 08:52.59 | Ellipsis | I basically have to turn off all caching just to get it to run next to anything |
| 08:53.05 | Ellipsis | which is kinda dumb |
| 08:53.14 | raegx | well... |
| 08:53.53 | raegx | I mean |
| 08:53.53 | raegx | ...=( |
| 08:53.54 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: I shouldn't have to change the way I use my software just because someone sucks at coding |
| 08:53.54 | nocts | The answer is not "get more ram". Pre FF3 and pre FF2, the browser could run just fine with WoW. |
| 08:53.54 | nocts | It's stop abusing user resources. |
| 08:53.54 | raegx | mine runs just find w/ wow |
| 08:53.54 | Ellipsis | firefox allows me to open N tabs, and I want N tabs open, so it should work. |
| 08:53.54 | Zhinjio | evening |
| 08:53.54 | nevcairiel | nocts: so use FF1 and stop annoying us :P |
| 08:53.55 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 08:54.01 | Ellipsis | hugs Zhinjio |
| 08:54.04 | Ellipsis | make the meanies stop |
| 08:54.08 | nocts | nevcairiel: Annoying you? I thought this was a discussion. |
| 08:54.13 | Zhinjio | ./ignore meanies |
| 08:54.32 | Ellipsis | actually I was asking for help and everyone decided to flame the reason behind my question instead of answering it |
| 08:54.36 | Ellipsis | which I wouldn't call a discussion |
| 08:54.46 | nevcairiel | Newer software is written to work "faster" by using caching, and caching uses memory |
| 08:54.53 | charon | points out he has recommended two solutions, albeit not seriously |
| 08:54.56 | Adirelle|work | Ellipsis: this happens a lot here |
| 08:55.14 | nevcairiel | If you want a low memory profile, use old software that was written when users didnt have memory |
| 08:55.20 | nocts | It's a falsity of design. |
| 08:55.22 | Ellipsis | maybe I will |
| 08:55.37 | Ellipsis | if only I could do so without reverting all the fixes to memory leaks, crashes, security holes... |
| 08:55.44 | nocts | Ellipsis: http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.htm <3 |
| 08:55.52 | nevcairiel | Also as was mentioned, you can turn off memory caching in FF |
| 08:55.58 | nevcairiel | but you dont want that either, because it will be slow |
| 08:56.00 | Ellipsis | that causes worse slowdowns |
| 08:56.09 | nevcairiel | so, we cant help you |
| 08:56.14 | nevcairiel | you want fast, without resouce usage |
| 08:56.16 | nevcairiel | go nuts! |
| 08:56.17 | Ellipsis | see, the reason the RAM usage is the problem is because it's constantly paging |
| 08:56.27 | Ellipsis | reading/writing the page file vs. reading/writing the cache files |
| 08:56.29 | Ellipsis | equally sucky. |
| 08:56.55 | VonhintenHOME` | get more ram? |
| 08:56.57 | nevcairiel | WoW uses about 700mb in average, lets say windows needs 200 |
| 08:56.57 | Ellipsis | I don't want "without resource usage" |
| 08:57.02 | Ellipsis | I want "without unreasonable resource usage" |
| 08:57.02 | nevcairiel | so you have 100 for everything else |
| 08:57.07 | nocts | And if the browser used to work well in the same hardware enviroment, and it doesn't now and with increased system resource comsumption... why even bother with that browser? |
| 08:57.13 | nevcairiel | You cant expect alot to work in that 100 |
| 08:57.17 | Ellipsis | if opera can do the same thing firefox does in 1/3rd of the RAM, what the hell is wrong with firefox? |
| 08:57.27 | VonhintenHOME` | good question |
| 08:57.34 | nocts | I mean, dear god. What did we do without firefox 3's url validity checking all this time? |
| 08:57.34 | Adirelle|work | xul ? |
| 08:57.45 | VonhintenHOME` | I think a lot of people are asking wtf firefox is doing with all that memory |
| 08:57.45 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: your math is really bad |
| 08:57.55 | raegx | they are two completely different browsers w/ different goals as far as user experience. |
| 08:58.00 | Ellipsis | WoW uses about 400-500MB, the rest is usually in page file |
| 08:58.11 | Ellipsis | a browser should be able to handle normal use in under 300 |
| 08:58.14 | nevcairiel | how does that affect my math? :P |
| 08:58.21 | nevcairiel | I have enough ram, my wow doesnt have to page |
| 08:58.23 | nocts | You're right, raegx. One is meant to be modular and open source, the other flexible and open-community. |
| 08:58.30 | Arrowmaster | mines under 300mb..... |
| 08:58.33 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: under windows or linux ? |
| 08:58.34 | Ellipsis | I don't; so I try to avoid using software which thrashes the crap out of my system |
| 08:58.34 | Arrowmaster | wtf is your normal use? |
| 08:58.34 | nocts | Then get 99% of the features out of firefox and into modules. |
| 08:58.44 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: 20-40 tabs |
| 08:58.56 | Arrowmaster | i have that many open right now |
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| 08:59.16 | Ellipsis | I restart my browser usually a couple times a week |
| 08:59.22 | nevcairiel | I would never open that many tabs just because its not usable anymore o.O |
| 08:59.23 | raegx | http://tinyurl.com/2tbqe5 |
| 08:59.25 | Ellipsis | I would prefer not to have to at all, but, well, we can't have everything |
| 08:59.34 | raegx | errr ff3 memory stuff http://tinyurl.com/2tbqe5 |
| 08:59.45 | nocts | nevcairiel: She apparently can handle multitasking of information better than you. |
| 08:59.58 | Ellipsis | raegx: it still uses 2-3x the amount of ram opera does for the same pages |
| 09:00.05 | nocts | ^ |
| 09:00.15 | charon | points out that his konqy processes have about 46M RSS for en.wikipedia.org ... on 64bit |
| 09:00.16 | Ellipsis | also when I tried it, it hung my CPU at 100% usage, on sites opera handled fine |
| 09:00.18 | nocts | And it still collects it on a continual basis. It's a perpetual increase even during idle. |
| 09:00.21 | nevcairiel | nocts: its only multi tasking if yo uhave multiple visible on one screen, not if you switch tasks constantly =P |
| 09:00.24 | charon | but i guess i should quit the "switch to linux already" trolling |
| 09:00.34 | raegx | @ellipsis are you using addons? |
| 09:00.35 | Ellipsis | charon: I plan to when I get my new machine together |
| 09:00.43 | Ellipsis | raegx: clean install of both opera and firefox3 |
| 09:00.56 | Ellipsis | no plugins, only minor settings changes |
| 09:01.06 | nocts | nevcairiel: That isn't true, it's the immediate access of information by switching between multiple tasks that require different tabs of information. |
| 09:01.11 | Ellipsis | usually disabling features as opposed to enabling them :P |
| 09:01.12 | nocts | Who are you to say that it doesn't work for her? |
| 09:01.29 | nevcairiel | I'm not, i'm only questioning your comments |
| 09:01.29 | raegx | http://www.zolved.com/synapse/view_content/24939/How_to_reduce_the_memory_usage_on_Firefox |
| 09:01.33 | Arrowmaster | are you openning pages with flash? |
| 09:01.46 | Ellipsis | not usually, other than the occasional youtube link |
| 09:01.57 | Ellipsis | in my testing I had no flash on the pages |
| 09:01.58 | nocts | raegx: That's an end-users bullshit article. |
| 09:02.03 | nocts | Check your themes? your plugins? |
| 09:02.04 | raegx | lol |
| 09:02.09 | raegx | read the last parts |
| 09:02.11 | nocts | 1. The themes shouldn't be a memory leak, that's the authors problem |
| 09:02.14 | raegx | the first ones are lame |
| 09:02.17 | nocts | 2. The plugins shouldn't be poorly coded. |
| 09:02.21 | raegx | the last one changes the about:config |
| 09:02.23 | nocts | Clear download history? |
| 09:02.24 | nocts | ffs |
| 09:02.26 | Arrowmaster | are you opening sites with lots of large images? |
| 09:02.28 | nocts | Browser problem. |
| 09:02.37 | raegx | @nocts read the last parts |
| 09:02.43 | nocts | If the first five are bullshit excuses, why should I give the last one validity? |
| 09:02.51 | raegx | to annoy you |
| 09:02.54 | raegx | obviouslyl. |
| 09:02.58 | nocts | You know what happens when I minimize FF? the resource usage stays the same. |
| 09:03.00 | Ellipsis | Arrowmaster: occasionally (UI screenshots), but again not on any of the pages I was using for testing |
| 09:03.03 | Zhinjio | wow, maybe I should come back later |
| 09:03.12 | nocts | Bullshit article. |
| 09:03.33 | raegx | lol im not saying FF is a light weight at all I'm just offering Ellipsis things to try |
| 09:03.48 | nocts | You know where the article is on reducing ram usage on opera? I don't need one. Because it's already running with less RAM, on a smaller binary, and with more features. |
| 09:03.49 | Ellipsis | no you're not |
| 09:03.53 | nocts | Pft. |
| 09:03.55 | Ellipsis | you're offering me workarounds for bad software |
| 09:04.01 | Ellipsis | I want to *try* different software :) |
| 09:04.14 | nocts | k-melon comes to mind, and the tried and true elinks-2 |
| 09:04.20 | smcn | wait i must of missed something, why should we care what browser someone else is running? :P |
| 09:04.25 | Ellipsis | thanks, I'll take a look at those |
| 09:04.26 | smcn | must have* |
| 09:04.30 | dieck | Ellipsis: lightweight webbrowser? Try links :) |
| 09:04.36 | Ellipsis | smcn: well, I made the mistake of asking for suggestions... |
| 09:04.41 | raegx | Ellipsis is looking for a new lightweight browser besides opera |
| 09:04.45 | nocts | dieck: That isn't funny, and you know that. |
| 09:04.49 | charon | Ellipsis: btw there's w3m which even rendered tables last i needed a text mode browser |
| 09:04.51 | smcn | oh |
| 09:05.30 | raegx | I think we are avoiding the real problem here...wow should run w/ less memory |
| 09:05.38 | raegx | terrible piece of software |
| 09:05.46 | Ellipsis | agreed |
| 09:05.47 | raegx | resource hog. I can't play other game while its running >_< |
| 09:05.48 | nocts | Reduced settings does mean a lower footprint. |
| 09:05.51 | nevcairiel | WoW is a game, if you dont allow it to use some memory, just quit it =P |
| 09:05.52 | charon | then you'd all be crying about the low-res textures and low-poly models |
| 09:06.01 | nocts | We already do. |
| 09:06.07 | nocts | For as much resources as it takes up, it should look better. |
| 09:06.08 | charon | i forgot |
| 09:06.16 | dieck | nocts: hey, I love links. I'm even using it on my cellphone most of the time :) |
| 09:06.18 | VonhintenHOME` | you can't get much lower poly count than blizzard models |
| 09:06.21 | nocts | Kind of like expecting more out of firefox for teh amount of ram it uses. |
| 09:06.27 | Punkie | i've played tf2 on high settings with wow accidentally running in the background :P |
| 09:06.30 | charon | nocts: i'm sure you can go to blizzard and teach them your m4d c0ding skillz |
| 09:06.30 | nocts | dieck: She isn't replacing it on her cellphone. |
| 09:06.31 | raegx | WoW is a crappy piece of software. I should be able to run 3 different web browsers, stream afew downloads at 1.5mb/sec and see no stutter. It fails. =\ |
| 09:06.45 | nocts | charon: Coding skills? wtf? 3d modeling != programming |
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| 09:07.19 | Punkie | Ellipsis: tried Safari? great on mac a bit naff on windows |
| 09:07.30 | Punkie | but it was the only browser on windows that let me order blizzcon tickets :P |
| 09:07.33 | nocts | Ie8b2 is supposed to be pretty fuckign solid. |
| 09:08.07 | VonhintenHOME` | I've been hearing small comments recently about IE8 |
| 09:08.12 | Adirelle|work | nocts: does it hide its memory consumption into windows like its little brothers ? |
| 09:08.14 | VonhintenHOME` | that it's good |
| 09:08.23 | charon | nocts: ah well, teach them your m4d 3d modelling skillz then, what do i care |
| 09:09.21 | nocts | charon: If you can't get the insult right the first time, you fail every point thereafter. |
| 09:09.36 | raegx | The only thing i've heard about IE8b2 is end-user stuff. Which has been overall positive |
| 09:09.44 | nocts | Adirelle|work: That's not an active form of hiding, since it's literal DLL registration overlapping. But process explorer and similar shows the details. |
| 09:10.07 | Zhinjio | where's Elkano when you need him |
| 09:10.32 | nocts | hugs Zhinjio |
| 09:11.04 | nocts | OMG I didn't know you are now a father :O |
| 09:11.09 | nocts | Massive grats on dad ding. |
| 09:11.14 | Zhinjio | yup. 12 days old. |
| 09:11.15 | Zhinjio | 13 now |
| 09:11.19 | Zhinjio | craziness |
| 09:11.21 | nocts | That's incredible. Way to go. |
| 09:11.30 | Zhinjio | anyone feel like looking at the new ARL gui and giving some feedback? |
| 09:11.44 | VonhintenHOME` | screenshot it |
| 09:12.04 | raegx | @zhinjio gratz. Having kids scares me O_o |
| 09:13.00 | [SW]Dodge | Zhinjio: arl gui? |
| 09:13.22 | VonhintenHOME` | Membership Benefits! |
| 09:13.41 | Zhinjio | I made a new GUI for Ackis Recipe List |
| 09:13.55 | Zhinjio | http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2380-1/arl_0023.jpg |
| 09:14.07 | Adirelle|work | raegx: I was scared too, but it seems humans have hidden ressources to cope with their own kids. |
| 09:14.23 | Zhinjio | definitely still needs tweaking and cleanup, but its getting much closer to being done |
| 09:14.33 | Pkekyo| | looking good Zhinjio |
| 09:14.42 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 09:15.01 | Pkekyo| | could've fooled me for being blizzard's work |
| 09:15.03 | Stanzilla | just the round texture in the top left corner looks a bit blurred |
| 09:15.08 | VonhintenHOME` | It's really not obvious to me looking at that interface what I'm supposed to be doing |
| 09:16.13 | Zhinjio | VonhintenHOME`: do you use AckisRecipeList? |
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| 09:16.23 | VonhintenHOME` | No |
| 09:16.30 | Adirelle|work | Kaelten: is there some doc about psyn somewhere ? |
| 09:16.31 | VonhintenHOME` | What is the list showing me? |
| 09:16.48 | Zhinjio | all leatherworking recipes, and, when expanded, where they can be obtained from |
| 09:16.56 | Pkekyo| | recipies, VonhintenHOME`? :p |
| 09:17.00 | Zhinjio | well, in this case leatherworking |
| 09:17.03 | raegx | I was reading up on how to make drop down select lists manually. It was fun and trying to make my first one. Now is there a library that will do it for me? |
| 09:17.06 | Pkekyo| | the name is kinda self-explanatory |
| 09:17.11 | Zhinjio | it can be used for any crafting skill + poisons + pet training |
| 09:17.13 | Fisker- | slaps Pkekyo| around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:17.26 | Pkekyo| | ~whaleslap Fisker- |
| 09:17.30 | purl | ACTION beats Fisker- upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 09:17.38 | [Liquidor] | raegx, make one |
| 09:17.41 | VonhintenHOME` | well, like I said, it's not obvious to me, having never seen it before... the "Trainer" needs to be indented |
| 09:18.05 | Punkie | Fisker-: |
| 09:18.08 | raegx | @Liquidor is that a hint that there isn't one? |
| 09:19.21 | VonhintenHOME` | What is the list on the right for (not the filter list) |
| 09:19.21 | VonhintenHOME` | is that settings? |
| 09:19.29 | VonhintenHOME` | or is that part of the filter popout? |
| 09:20.01 | Zhinjio | the list of reputations? |
| 09:20.28 | VonhintenHOME` | What does "Obtain", "Binding", "Item", "Player" mean? |
| 09:20.30 | Pkekyo| | damn you VonhintenHOME` |
| 09:20.35 | Pkekyo| | STOP BEING SO GODDAMN PREGNANT |
| 09:20.40 | Zhinjio | those are the various ways of obtaining recipes |
| 09:20.41 | Pkekyo| | VonhintenHOME`: various kinds of recipies |
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| 09:20.54 | Zhinjio | each panel gives you the ability to filter the recipe list in different ways |
| 09:21.05 | Zhinjio | Binding: item BoE, item BoP, recipe BoE, recipe BoP |
| 09:21.19 | Zhinjio | Item is like... Weapon or Armor types |
| 09:21.39 | Zhinjio | if you check them, recipes obtained in that way will be displayed in the list, if you uncheck them, they won't |
| 09:21.40 | VonhintenHOME` | So, in other words "Filter By: " |
| 09:21.45 | Zhinjio | correct |
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| 09:21.56 | Zhinjio | rep is ... well, recipes obtained from gaining rep in a particular faction |
| 09:21.57 | VonhintenHOME` | Sounds like you need a "Filter By:" label :) |
| 09:22.19 | Zhinjio | well that panel is reached by clicking on the "Filter >>>" button at the top |
| 09:22.27 | Zhinjio | (which in that screenie is now "Filter >>>" |
| 09:22.30 | Zhinjio | "er, <<< |
| 09:22.37 | Zhinjio | which closes the filter panel |
| 09:22.43 | VonhintenHOME` | change "Obtain" to "Obtained", unless I'm misunderstanding that |
| 09:22.59 | VonhintenHOME` | What does Player mean? |
| 09:23.14 | Zhinjio | Player ... -> Caster, Melee, Healer, Tank |
| 09:23.25 | Zhinjio | any recipe can be flagged for one (or more) of those player types |
| 09:23.30 | Zhinjio | you can filter on those as well |
| 09:23.38 | Zhinjio | (or will be able to. NYI) |
| 09:23.55 | Zhinjio | I'm just the GUI designer. Ackis is doing the rest of the work. |
| 09:23.57 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 09:24.05 | VonhintenHOME` | Maybe rename that to "Archetype" or "Class" |
| 09:24.16 | Zhinjio | again, thats up to ackis to worry about. |
| 09:24.24 | Zhinjio | he's gonna change the locale's however he sees fit |
| 09:24.45 | VonhintenHOME` | looks nice though |
| 09:24.50 | Pkekyo| | it does |
| 09:24.58 | Pkekyo| | but seriously |
| 09:24.58 | Zhinjio | thanks. |
| 09:25.02 | Pkekyo| | you have to stop being so goddamn pregnant |
| 09:25.16 | Zhinjio | um. |
| 09:25.18 | Zhinjio | who, me? |
| 09:25.21 | Pkekyo| | no, VonhintenHOME` |
| 09:25.24 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 09:25.53 | VonhintenHOME` | shrugs |
| 09:26.08 | VonhintenHOME` | is that euro-slang for having a stick up my ass? |
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| 09:26.32 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 09:26.44 | Pkekyo| | why would you put a stick up your arse? o.O' |
| 09:26.56 | VonhintenHOME` | You like my pregnant manboobs? |
| 09:27.09 | Pkekyo| | no |
| 09:27.18 | Lyn | Zhinjio: i like that gui :x |
| 09:27.39 | Pkekyo| | teh gui r teh secks |
| 09:27.53 | VonhintenHOME` | Well, then all I can say is, my pregnancy will run its course... |
| 09:28.54 | VonhintenHOME` | What does the reset button do? |
| 09:29.04 | Zhinjio | Reset all filters to defaults values |
| 09:29.21 | Zhinjio | the tooltip for all buttons are quite descriptive |
| 09:29.48 | VonhintenHOME` | Personally, I'd move the filter button down to where Reset is, and put the Reset button in the expanded area |
| 09:30.09 | Zhinjio | the reset button disappears when the filter panel is gone... one sec. |
| 09:30.43 | Pkekyo| | I HATE UPS :/ |
| 09:30.45 | Pkekyo| | :( |
| 09:30.52 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, all the more reason to put it in the interface. Let the filter button be more attached to the expanded area |
| 09:31.16 | Zhinjio | well, there is an issue of running out of space |
| 09:31.23 | Punkie | Pkekyo|: you said that justas UPS arrived at my office lol :P |
| 09:31.32 | Lyn | Pkekyo|I HATE UPS :/ < same here |
| 09:31.36 | Pkekyo| | stop ye'r moaning, battyboy |
| 09:31.37 | Punkie | also, me too |
| 09:31.42 | Pkekyo| | lol Punkie |
| 09:31.58 | Punkie | get this i ordered something from the states |
| 09:32.00 | Lyn | gief my laptop nau |
| 09:32.02 | Pkekyo| | my parcel has been in Herne, Germany for 36 hours now :( |
| 09:32.14 | Punkie | as soon as it arrived in the UK, they rang me up demanding I pay import tax |
| 09:32.33 | Punkie | then it went out for delivery and it couldnt be delivered because they couldnt find my house |
| 09:32.46 | Punkie | so i called them after i tracked it and they said they had NO contact details |
| 09:32.47 | Punkie | fuckers |
| 09:32.51 | Pkekyo| | sounds almost as bad as Parcelforce |
| 09:33.13 | Punkie | i was like, erm you rang me yesterday for tax |
| 09:33.19 | Punkie | -.-' |
| 09:33.44 | Pkekyo| | they're arsehats |
| 09:34.33 | Pkekyo| | I've had great service from them...but it drives me mad when my parcel is stuck in some randomass shitstain town down in germany for several days when I need the package by thursday |
| 09:35.17 | Punkie | yeah and you paid the extra for it to get there early |
| 09:35.44 | Pkekyo| | aye |
| 09:35.56 | Lyn | which town? :p |
| 09:36.07 | Pkekyo| | Lyn: atm it's in Herne |
| 09:36.08 | VonhintenHOME` | Shittenstainen |
| 09:36.19 | Lyn | okay, herne sucks :p |
| 09:36.23 | Pkekyo| | earlier it was stuck in Köln for more than 40 hours |
| 09:36.43 | Zhinjio | all four expansion views on one image... http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2384-1/arl_0024.jpg |
| 09:36.46 | Lyn | cologne.. haha ^^ |
| 09:36.59 | Pkekyo| | köln sucks as well :( |
| 09:37.11 | Zhinjio | in order: bottom-right, top-left, top-right, bottom-left (this should be obvious) |
| 09:37.17 | Punkie | Pkekyo|: have you ever called UPS? |
| 09:37.29 | Pkekyo| | Punkie: no, howso? |
| 09:37.38 | Punkie | well I called them |
| 09:37.44 | Punkie | and let me say that it's a joke |
| 09:37.51 | Punkie | they have this robot woman that you have to actually talk too |
| 09:37.55 | VonhintenHOME` | Zhinjio, alright, that's not too bad |
| 09:38.01 | Lyn | Zhinjio: looks nice :) does ARL has an option to show only recipes I don't know atm? :x (dont know ARL, so thats why I am asking) |
| 09:38.07 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 09:38.09 | Punkie | you have to say your 25-character tracking code too |
| 09:38.18 | Pkekyo| | Punkie: then I really shouldn't call them - broken english + robot ftw :p |
| 09:38.21 | Punkie | and obviously everyone has difference accents so it never actually works :P |
| 09:38.22 | Zhinjio | on the "General" filters, you have "Known" and "Unknown" checkboxes |
| 09:38.27 | Lyn | ah sweet |
| 09:38.57 | Zhinjio | this new gui is currently only reachable by enabling the "Test GUI" in the options |
| 09:39.01 | Pkekyo| | indeed Punkie... think I should try it with a strong scandinavian accent? :p |
| 09:39.29 | Punkie | well i'm english and it didn't work for me ;) |
| 09:40.04 | Zhinjio | the little bar on the bottom will also contain a progress bar showing how many recipes you've learned vs the total number once its done |
| 09:40.09 | Zhinjio | haven't added that in yet |
| 09:40.18 | Pkekyo| | no point in me trying then :p |
| 09:40.38 | Pkekyo| | I like it better when they call me up, ask me if I'm home and come deliver my stuff |
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| 09:41.05 | Punkie | yeah but apparently the tax department doesnt share contact details with the delivery department :P |
| 09:41.12 | Pkekyo| | >.< arsehats |
| 09:41.39 | Pkekyo| | I never had any problems with the delivery department |
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| 09:42.55 | Punkie | the woman I spoke too sounded pretty pissed that I even considered calling :P |
| 09:43.17 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 09:43.30 | Daemona | sounds like german new tax number distribution fail? |
| 09:43.34 | Daemona | or what are ye talking about? |
| 09:43.37 | Pkekyo| | UPS |
| 09:43.45 | Daemona | kinda the same :D |
| 09:44.09 | Pkekyo| | I wouldn't know - no experience with germans since WW2 :p |
| 09:44.16 | Daemona | everyone getting a new tax number in germany ... and they send it via mail, using adresses from july '07 ^^ |
| 09:44.24 | Pkekyo| | sweet |
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| 09:49.20 | Pkekyo| | sod this, I'm hungry |
| 09:49.27 | Pkekyo| | I feel like ordering a pizza :p |
| 09:50.00 | Pkekyo| | can't be arsed to slice bread |
| 09:54.33 | Punkie | damn straight |
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| 09:55.33 | Pkekyo| | screw this, I'm getting a kebab :p |
| 09:55.43 | cladhaire | lol |
| 09:55.44 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:55.50 | VonhintenHOME` | that's the spirit |
| 09:55.58 | cladhaire | where would we be without kebab vans? |
| 09:56.08 | Pkekyo| | vans? |
| 09:56.20 | Pkekyo| | wth is a kebab van? |
| 09:56.24 | cladhaire | in Oxford we have vans that show up every night |
| 09:56.26 | cladhaire | about 9pm |
| 09:56.29 | cladhaire | and they're there until 4-5 |
| 09:56.33 | Pkekyo| | lol |
| 09:56.35 | cladhaire | thats how we get our kebabs :P |
| 09:56.39 | VonhintenHOME` | I had an extremely disappointing Seekh Kebab yesterday at a local indian place... |
| 09:56.42 | Pkekyo| | oxford is weird |
| 09:56.52 | VonhintenHOME` | was like an overcooked lamb sausage.. just bad |
| 09:56.54 | Pkekyo| | indian kebab = fail |
| 09:57.11 | Punkie | all the kebab places here are from turkish people |
| 09:57.24 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, turkish kebabs are the win |
| 09:57.24 | cladhaire | Indiann kebabs are fail |
| 09:57.27 | Pkekyo| | seems like a mix of pakistanis and turks here |
| 09:57.28 | cladhaire | turkish kebabs win |
| 09:57.29 | cladhaire | :P |
| 09:58.13 | Pkekyo| | there's this shop that've got a gazillion variants |
| 09:58.16 | Pkekyo| | I love the place |
| 09:59.12 | Pkekyo| | could spend a month's pay there in a day :p |
| 10:00.00 | VonhintenHOME` | have your own kebabathon |
| 10:00.49 | Punkie | theres this all you can eat in milton keynes |
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| 10:00.59 | Punkie | and it does like around the world buffet |
| 10:01.03 | Punkie | with trained chefs |
| 10:01.06 | Punkie | its amazing |
| 10:01.26 | VonhintenHOME` | Next thing you know, Pkekyo's in here saying "I can't be arsed to remove the stick... nomnomnom" |
| 10:01.48 | Punkie | kebab in pita > on stick |
| 10:01.59 | Pkekyo| | VonhintenHOME`: I would, but I can't afford it |
| 10:02.03 | Pkekyo| | also...what stick? |
| 10:02.48 | VonhintenHOME` | the skewer they cook the kebab on? |
| 10:03.34 | Punkie | VonhintenHOME`: it's generally not served like that, at least, in the UK |
| 10:03.37 | Pkekyo| | ooh |
| 10:03.49 | Pkekyo| | it's not served like that here either |
| 10:04.20 | VonhintenHOME` | hm, do they cook them differently, or just remove the stick before serving? |
| 10:04.50 | Pkekyo| | completely differently I guess |
| 10:04.57 | Punkie | well here it's like a giant thing of processed meat on a metal rod that gets turned in front of a heater thing |
| 10:05.05 | Pkekyo| | yeah, same here |
| 10:05.06 | Punkie | and then they shave the outside off and put it in a pita |
| 10:05.35 | Pkekyo| | then they shave it off, cook it on a huge heated plate for a minute or so and stuff it in whatever you ordered |
| 10:05.51 | Fisker- | i'm dying :( |
| 10:05.56 | Stanzilla | finally |
| 10:05.57 | Pkekyo| | yaaaaay |
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| 10:06.14 | Punkie | rejoice? ;o |
| 10:06.24 | VonhintenHOME` | sure you don't want a second opinion? |
| 10:06.32 | Pkekyo| | VonhintenHOME`: nah, let him die |
| 10:06.38 | Fisker- | must... play... spooooooore |
| 10:06.39 | cladhaire | Pkekyo|: same here |
| 10:07.07 | Punkie | same what? kebab? |
| 10:07.48 | Pkekyo| | same your mom :O |
| 10:07.48 | cladhaire | preparation, yeah |
| 10:07.50 | Fisker- | atleast i got mass effect for free |
| 10:07.51 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 10:07.55 | Fisker- | EA fails |
| 10:09.18 | Punkie | Pkekyo|: I hate you now |
| 10:09.30 | Pkekyo| | Punkie: wai? |
| 10:09.40 | Punkie | i want a kebab |
| 10:09.48 | Pkekyo| | me too :( |
| 10:10.05 | Pkekyo| | can't afford it... |
| 10:10.05 | Pkekyo| | my brother's got 1k lying on his desk though...sooo tempting |
| 10:10.30 | Fisker- | i can afford kebab Pkekyo| |
| 10:10.35 | Fisker- | BECAUSE I GOT MASS EFFECT FOR FREE >:3 |
| 10:10.37 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: die allready |
| 10:10.40 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 10:11.04 | Punkie | Pkekyo|: is that like worth £5 |
| 10:11.18 | Fisker- | Pkekyo| did you get mass effect for free? |
| 10:11.22 | Pkekyo| | Punkie: more like £160 methinks |
| 10:11.27 | Pkekyo| | Fisker-: yes, yes I did |
| 10:11.35 | Fisker- | nahuh |
| 10:11.36 | Pkekyo| | then I gave it away |
| 10:11.38 | Pkekyo| | 'cause it sucks |
| 10:11.40 | Punkie | ah ok, must be weird going '1k' |
| 10:11.42 | Fisker- | no u Pkekyo| |
| 10:11.49 | Pkekyo| | Punkie: howso? |
| 10:12.21 | Punkie | like 10 notes for a kebab or something? |
| 10:12.38 | Pkekyo| | nah, about 100 NOK |
| 10:13.02 | Pkekyo| | depends on what kebab you're getting |
| 10:13.16 | Pkekyo| | the kebab dinner with fries, salad etc costs about 120 iirc |
| 10:13.21 | Fisker- | gets much moar kebab than Pkekyo| because of getting mass effect for free |
| 10:13.29 | Fisker- | NOM NOM NOM |
| 10:13.57 | Punkie | you can't eat mass effect man |
| 10:14.19 | Pkekyo| | well, you can |
| 10:14.22 | Pkekyo| | actually, I recommend it |
| 10:14.26 | Fisker- | i don't >:3 |
| 10:14.29 | Pkekyo| | hopefully it'll rupture some intestines |
| 10:14.35 | Fisker- | but i win over EA |
| 10:14.45 | VonhintenHOME` | then it'll be Ass Effects |
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| 10:21.22 | Zhinjio | can someone running any Ace2 addon on a non-enUS client please run this for me: |
| 10:21.25 | Zhinjio | ./dump GetSpellName( 1, BOOKTYPE_SPELL ) |
| 10:21.49 | Zhinjio | I need to know if the return values are localized. |
| 10:22.17 | Gandharva | does anyone else have problems with TipHookerLib? Causes massive cpu-load for me when hovering over Netherweave Cloth. -> http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14891.0 |
| 10:22.24 | nevcairiel | Zhinjio: they are |
| 10:22.27 | Zhinjio | shit |
| 10:22.31 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 10:22.38 | nevcairiel | everything is localized |
| 10:22.46 | nevcairiel | except if you get a "filename" as return |
| 10:22.53 | nevcairiel | like on maps |
| 10:22.57 | nevcairiel | or 2nd of UnitClass |
| 10:22.57 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 10:23.21 | Zhinjio | alright, putting that on my todo list then. |
| 10:23.30 | Zhinjio | this will break on non-enUS clients for the moment |
| 10:24.48 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81215 10Bartender4/ (barPrototype/Prototype.lua specialBars/PetBar.lua): Bartender4: change visibility driver to hide pet-bar when possessing, as blizzard doesn't give you a pet-bar either when in a vehicle, for example. |
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| 10:38.35 | Ellipsis | I think I'm in love |
| 10:38.44 | Lyn | with me? |
| 10:39.02 | Ellipsis | I have a browser with lower resource usage than opera, and it even has sexy options like disabling blinking text or marquees |
| 10:39.14 | Lyn | k-meleon? |
| 10:39.18 | Ellipsis | yup ^-^ |
| 10:39.24 | Lyn | but it looks so ugly :< |
| 10:39.43 | nevcairiel | at least its good rendering wise, since it uses gecko |
| 10:39.52 | Pkekyo| | Lyn: it's the same principle as putting a brown paper bag over a girl's head to be able to get it up... |
| 10:40.00 | Ellipsis | ugly? |
| 10:40.10 | Lyn | Pkekyo|: lol |
| 10:40.12 | Ellipsis | it uses standard windows colors |
| 10:40.16 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84-119-53-183.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 10:40.25 | Ellipsis | if it's ugly then your whole system is :P |
| 10:40.25 | nevcairiel | It looks "simple", not really ugly |
| 10:40.35 | Lyn | i mean the icons |
| 10:40.36 | Lyn | :p |
| 10:40.41 | Lyn | and yes, themes exist |
| 10:40.51 | Ellipsis | you can also just disable them like I did |
| 10:41.08 | Lyn | maybe I'll give it a try on my laptop :P but ... there is no thing like delicious plugin and adblock :< or? |
| 10:41.13 | nevcairiel | also with all the web-work i do, i cannot live without a firebug-like extension anymore |
| 10:41.19 | Ellipsis | adblock plus has a specific k-meleon repack |
| 10:41.34 | Pkekyo| | Lyn: what? perfectly logical analogy! :p |
| 10:41.34 | Lyn | rly? link? |
| 10:41.41 | Ellipsis | http://adblockplus.org/en/kmeleon |
| 10:41.44 | Lyn | thx |
| 10:41.48 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:41.49 | Lyn | now only delicious :P |
| 10:41.54 | Ellipsis | loves Fisker- |
| 10:42.34 | Lyn | http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/wiki/DelIcioUs ha |
| 10:42.35 | Lyn | found |
| 10:42.37 | Lyn | good |
| 10:42.45 | Ellipsis | tada! |
| 10:42.46 | Ellipsis | :) |
| 10:43.00 | Lyn | seksi! |
| 10:43.58 | Fisker- | loves Ellipsis as a friend |
| 10:43.59 | Fisker- | HOHO |
| 10:49.18 | Lyn | hoho? |
| 10:49.29 | Lyn | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ho ? |
| 10:49.38 | Lyn | A word Santa Clause says three times when he sees your wife, mother and sister together in the same room. |
| 10:50.43 | VonhintenHOME` | goddamn I hate fishing |
| 10:50.47 | Fisker- | then that would be hohoho |
| 10:50.59 | Lyn | minus the sister = hoho |
| 10:52.12 | Lyn | *yawn* meh |
| 10:53.01 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81216 10Bartender4/Options/: Bartender4: create options directory for some restructuring |
| 10:55.42 | steino | aa |
| 10:55.59 | Stanzilla | bb |
| 11:00.03 | nevcairiel | #126 Memory Never released .. thats one i didnt get yet |
| 11:01.32 | Ellipsis | sounds fun |
| 11:07.29 | Adirelle|work | so, aspect of the viper doesn't return mana from volley, seems blizzard didn't blindly added it |
| 11:08.48 | Adirelle|work | it does from serpent sting though, a.k.a. dot and flee => deal damage and regen mana |
| 11:13.17 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81217 10Bartender4/ (29 files in 8 dirs): Bartender4: restructuring, preparing for new changes |
| 11:14.43 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: any "new changes" teaser ? |
| 11:15.04 | nevcairiel | not yet |
| 11:17.01 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81218 10Bartender4/Bartender4.toc: Bartender4: fix .toc |
| 11:18.47 | Adirelle|work | ~purl |
| 11:18.47 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 11:21.16 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81219 10Bartender4/ (ActionBarStates.lua Bartender4.toc): Bartender4: fix other bugs |
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| 11:25.54 | Adirelle|work | who's operating puyl ? |
| 11:25.56 | Adirelle|work | prul* |
| 11:25.59 | Adirelle|work | purl* damn it |
| 11:26.07 | Ellipsis | ~purl |
| 11:26.08 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 11:26.12 | Ellipsis | no! |
| 11:26.21 | Adirelle|work | ~fail ellipsis |
| 11:26.21 | purl | ellipsis: FAIL! |
| 11:26.30 | Ellipsis | =[ |
| 11:26.37 | Ellipsis | ~lart Adirelle|work |
| 11:26.37 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Adirelle|work a good jolt |
| 11:26.54 | Lyn | ~fart fisker- |
| 11:26.55 | purl | ACTION farts in fisker-'s general direction |
| 11:28.42 | Adirelle|work | I would like to invite it to another chan, but I fail to figure 1) if I should ask someone, 2) how to do it (no information about this in its help) |
| 11:31.19 | *** join/#wowace thul (i=thul@gauk.unixgen.com) |
| 11:31.30 | thul | EY |
| 11:31.36 | thul | how can: "26""16""10""62% ""1433" <- that be? how can i win 16, lose 10 and go from 1500-> 1433? :-P |
| 11:31.39 | thul | HOW? |
| 11:31.57 | Lyn | wtf |
| 11:32.01 | Ellipsis | you played a lot of lower rated teams? :P |
| 11:32.04 | smcn | because arena blows |
| 11:32.06 | thul | :-( |
| 11:32.20 | thul | Ellipsis: so, when are you coming to pick up that kitten? :-P |
| 11:32.30 | Ellipsis | when you least expect it ;) |
| 11:32.42 | thul | haha |
| 11:32.56 | thul | I'm thinking about moving to florida, rumor says that real estate is cheap over there |
| 11:32.59 | thul | :-D |
| 11:35.53 | Ellipsis | nibbles on thul |
| 11:37.06 | thul | mmmm ;-) |
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| 11:41.34 | Adirelle|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336628171&pageNo=2&sid=2003#20 |
| 11:41.48 | Adirelle|work | does he mean they didn't lowered the population cap ? |
| 11:42.40 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:50.27 | Ellipsis | I remember when the beta servers were stable... |
| 11:55.55 | nevcairiel | meh the EU server is actually fine since they fixed the login issues and the queue appeared |
| 11:56.29 | nevcairiel | short of my druid being stuck in front of CoT: Stratholme and crashing on login <.< |
| 11:56.56 | Adirelle|work | well, it has still some issues, but it is definitively better than a few days ago |
| 12:00.02 | Adirelle|work | Antiarc: ping ? |
| 12:02.06 | Fisker- | nah |
| 12:02.12 | Fisker- | i think they lowered the population cap |
| 12:14.51 | CIA-25 | 03johny * r81220 10TwinCam_Overlay/: |
| 12:14.51 | CIA-25 | TwinCam_Overlay: |
| 12:14.51 | CIA-25 | - Preparing for initial import of add-on. |
| 12:17.06 | nevcairiel | on what conditions would one want to hide/show a bar? I have pet/nopet combat/nocombat, various stances, if possessing (vehicle, creature) ... i'm out of ideas =P |
| 12:17.59 | Adirelle|work | zone ? |
| 12:18.10 | nevcairiel | not possible |
| 12:18.22 | nevcairiel | well in theory it is, but not with the system i'm doing now |
| 12:18.25 | nevcairiel | only macro conditions |
| 12:18.35 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: pet/nopet includes pet types, right? :) |
| 12:18.35 | Adirelle|work | I know, but you were asking for any idea ^^ |
| 12:18.57 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: not directly, but i'll offer a custom text box where you can input a macro string to use |
| 12:19.02 | Ellipsis | that works |
| 12:19.10 | nevcairiel | the toggle is only "have pet" |
| 12:19.10 | Adirelle|work | nevcairiel: is it based on macro conditions ? or you can just enter macro condition ? |
| 12:19.21 | Adirelle|work | mvn, answered while I was typing... |
| 12:19.24 | nevcairiel | well i dont want everyone to enter all macro conditions |
| 12:19.26 | Ellipsis | and if you allow configuring those state conditionals by hand for the pet bar, I would actually have a reason to use bt4 :o |
| 12:19.29 | nevcairiel | so i want some as checkboxes |
| 12:19.50 | nevcairiel | but i cant think of useful conditions |
| 12:19.51 | Adirelle|work | any chance of having conditions like [target=XXX,help] ? |
| 12:20.05 | Ellipsis | help/harm are more paging than hide/show conditionals... |
| 12:20.06 | nevcairiel | sure, input it in the custom box |
| 12:20.30 | Adirelle|work | er... will just affect showstate, or targetting too ? |
| 12:20.36 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: crazy thought; what about flying? |
| 12:20.37 | nevcairiel | only show state |
| 12:20.40 | thul | hmmm |
| 12:20.48 | Ellipsis | hide your spells while in midair...not like you're using them anyway :P |
| 12:20.48 | thul | you guys speek greek to me |
| 12:20.50 | nevcairiel | Maybe mounted/flying |
| 12:20.50 | Ellipsis | or mounted, maybe |
| 12:21.29 | Adirelle|work | flying combat mounts are considered vehicles ? |
| 12:21.48 | nevcairiel | i dont think mounted returns true for those |
| 12:21.51 | nevcairiel | but i'll test it =P |
| 12:22.11 | Ellipsis | if that becomes a problem you could always disable the checkbox for whichever bar has possess paging |
| 12:22.38 | nevcairiel | I have default configuration to hide all your bars except bar1 when possessing now |
| 12:22.50 | nevcairiel | you cant use them anyway |
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| 12:22.59 | CIA-25 | 03johny * r81221 10TwinCam_Overlay/ (. TwinCam_Overlay.lua TwinCam_Overlay.toc embeds.xml): |
| 12:22.59 | CIA-25 | TwinCam_Overlay: |
| 12:22.59 | CIA-25 | - Initial import of this add-on. |
| 12:23.00 | CIA-25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.00 | CIA-25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.02 | Ellipsis | are you allowed to change the possess bar to things besides bar 1? |
| 12:23.07 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 12:23.33 | nevcairiel | if you set it to nothing it'll use the petbar like before |
| 12:23.38 | nevcairiel | well at least thats the plan |
| 12:23.39 | Ellipsis | woot |
| 12:23.57 | Adirelle|work | is it not possible to apply [target=XXX] on a bar, or just very complicated ? |
| 12:24.09 | Adirelle|work | (I mean for targetting) |
| 12:24.12 | Ellipsis | it's possible |
| 12:24.19 | Adirelle|work | I'm a big fan of the mouseover thingy for healing |
| 12:24.23 | nevcairiel | just not with macro conditions |
| 12:24.29 | Ellipsis | just a question of how many people would use it, and whether it's worth allowing for |
| 12:24.52 | nevcairiel | for now i'm doing the visibility shit, so many people have been bothering me about that |
| 12:25.20 | Ellipsis | it's a nice feature ;) |
| 12:26.43 | Adirelle|work | Ellipsis: I put my healing/decursing spells, I mean macros, on a bar, keybind the buttons to F1-F6 then have grid just above those buttons |
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| 12:26.59 | Adirelle|work | then I just mouseover and press the key to cast |
| 12:27.18 | Ellipsis | pfft, I stay faaaaaaar away from healer setups |
| 12:27.26 | Adirelle|work | it just requires a tonshit of macros :/ |
| 12:27.29 | Ellipsis | that silly mouseover macro stuff does not interest me one bit :P |
| 12:27.50 | Ellipsis | many spells, few targets > few spells, many targets |
| 12:27.57 | Megalon | i macroed everything with my shamy, to append /train on every button! |
| 12:28.03 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
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| 12:28.34 | Fisker- | attacks |
| 12:29.43 | Adirelle|work | Ellipsis: the point is, I would love to set up a macro target as being "[target=mouseover,help][]" and then put the spells into its action slots |
| 12:30.12 | Ellipsis | Adirelle|work: it can be done, but like I said, it's a question of whether it would be widely used enough for nevcairiel to decide to implement it :) |
| 12:30.17 | orionshock | Adirelle|work: it's doable, just gonna be all custom |
| 12:31.49 | Adirelle|work | I don't know enough about secure actionbuttons to evaluate the degree of complexity |
| 12:31.57 | Adirelle|work | ~securebuttons |
| 12:32.09 | Ellipsis | it's not terribly complex in wotlk |
| 12:32.21 | Ellipsis | tbh I'm handcoding action bars to my needs |
| 12:32.39 | Ellipsis | because I can't quite get the functionality I want with the currently available addons |
| 12:32.59 | sylvanaar | i really need to turn off the wau hilighting |
| 12:33.24 | sylvanaar | in irc |
| 12:34.01 | Ellipsis | wau wau wau wau wau? |
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| 12:34.16 | sylvanaar | Ellipsis Ellipsis Ellipsis |
| 12:34.21 | Adirelle|work | the two things I really miss about button addons are : 1) an light-weight autobar, 2) that mouseover thingy |
| 12:34.23 | Ellipsis | I don't use highlights =] |
| 12:34.53 | sylvanaar | ah there its gone |
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| 12:40.18 | nevcairiel | warlocks are awesome to test my new stuff |
| 12:40.21 | nevcairiel | i have a pet |
| 12:40.29 | nevcairiel | i have a possess mode with metomorphosis |
| 12:40.35 | nevcairiel | *metamorphosis |
| 12:42.25 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81222 10Bartender4/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Bartender4: first draft of new visibility system, works so far, but lacks options |
| 12:43.56 | digmouse | my luck is gone |
| 12:44.50 | Ellipsis | nevcairiel: don't forget to test meta w/ pet too ;P |
| 12:44.59 | nevcairiel | pet despawns when you go meta |
| 12:45.05 | Ellipsis | not if you cast meta while mounted |
| 12:45.10 | Ellipsis | the pet spawns after you've already shifted ;) |
| 12:45.10 | nevcairiel | bug |
| 12:45.17 | Ellipsis | yes, but it's a good way to test pet + possess |
| 12:45.32 | nevcairiel | Doesnt possess always replace your pet? |
| 12:45.36 | Ellipsis | no |
| 12:45.47 | nevcairiel | When entering a vehicle i get that thing as my pet unit |
| 12:45.48 | Ellipsis | in some vehicles your pet stays out |
| 12:46.02 | nevcairiel | also it uses the pet bar |
| 12:46.05 | nevcairiel | can you still control it? |
| 12:46.09 | Ellipsis | with default UI you can't control it |
| 12:46.13 | Ellipsis | I haven't tested with action bars |
| 12:46.36 | nevcairiel | well blizzard replaces the pet actions with the possess actions |
| 12:46.40 | nevcairiel | i cant stop them from doing that |
| 12:46.59 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 12:47.11 | Ellipsis | sec, gotta find somewhere to test that on my lock |
| 12:47.22 | nevcairiel | tell me where it happens so i can go there |
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| 12:47.42 | nevcairiel | currently i just set the pet bar to hide when possessing |
| 12:47.48 | nevcairiel | but thats only an option too |
| 12:47.58 | Ellipsis | wow, login screen dragon got bluuuuuuue |
| 12:49.11 | nevcairiel | you didnt login for a while, eh? |
| 12:49.23 | Ellipsis | not since last patch, had other things to do :P |
| 12:49.28 | Navv | is there a concise list of WoW API changes for wotlk anywhere? |
| 12:50.12 | nevcairiel | 3.0 thread in official forums? |
| 12:51.50 | Navv | seems so, thanks anyhow :) |
| 12:52.09 | Navv | this unitaura thing is what i was looking for |
| 12:52.16 | nevcairiel | yeah thats in there |
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| 13:00.01 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81223 10Bartender4/Options/Options.xml: Bartender4: fix options |
| 13:00.41 | Ellipsis | bleh, are there any vehicles you can use after having already completed the quest? |
| 13:00.53 | Ellipsis | I'm having trouble finding a vehicle quest to play with |
| 13:01.03 | orionshock | ... WSD :( |
| 13:05.04 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: dragonblight has a daily |
| 13:06.40 | Ellipsis | ooh, I'll go try that |
| 13:08.07 | Ellipsis | argh, they renamed my mounts |
| 13:08.29 | Ellipsis | patiently edits her macros |
| 13:11.46 | thul | hmm |
| 13:12.41 | Ellipsis | does /cast work with spell IDs? |
| 13:12.46 | Ellipsis | 'cause it should |
| 13:13.05 | nevcairiel | spell:<id> |
| 13:13.07 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 13:14.31 | Ellipsis | doesn't seem to work :( |
| 13:16.12 | Adirelle|work | dreams that poppins had some API to programmaticaly set up the buttons |
| 13:16.25 | orionshock | ? |
| 13:16.45 | orionshock | "ERROR: NoInventroyIcon|0" ? |
| 13:16.58 | orionshock | i guess wow doesn't like my macro :\ |
| 13:16.59 | Ellipsis | ah, blizzard and their typos |
| 13:17.18 | orionshock | eh.. InventoryIcon|0 |
| 13:18.18 | orionshock | i've been trying to recreate a slight glitch where a tradeskill spell pop'ed up on my action bar one day. |
| 13:19.54 | Ellipsis | popped* |
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| 13:20.23 | Tamaroth | hmm guys, does SPELL_AURA_APPLIED return some information about source ? |
| 13:20.37 | Tamaroth | like GUID or name for instance ? |
| 13:20.50 | Adirelle|work | Tamaroth: not in live, it does on beta, but it is undocumented |
| 13:20.58 | Tamaroth | damn |
| 13:21.17 | Tamaroth | so how can get my hands on source data ? |
| 13:21.36 | Tamaroth | COMBAT_LOG_EVEN_UNFILTERED ? |
| 13:21.53 | Adirelle|work | SPELL_AURA_APPLIED is a COMBAT_LOG_EVEN_UNFILTERED subevent |
| 13:24.20 | CIA-25 | 03johny * r81224 10TwinCam_Overlay/TwinCam_Overlay.lua: |
| 13:24.20 | CIA-25 | TwinCam_Overlay: |
| 13:24.20 | CIA-25 | - Trap player death and clear stun warning on death. |
| 13:24.26 | Tamaroth | great |
| 13:25.58 | Tamaroth | i'm trying to write some small addon to bigwigs |
| 13:26.21 | Tamaroth | and i'm trying to figure out how AddCombatListener acctually works :) |
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| 13:30.14 | thul | nice nick. |
| 13:32.13 | orionshock | Tamaroth: did u read the code? |
| 13:38.11 | Adirelle|work | er... just had an addon idea : define a macro name, select a PT3 set, the addon updates the macro to use the item with highest PT3 value of its set |
| 13:38.55 | Adirelle|work | you can just use the macro with your favorite bar mods (or bind it, or whatever) |
| 13:39.48 | Adirelle|work | that's cheap and provides easy access to food/drink |
| 13:41.40 | Adirelle|work | it is less usefull with potions and bandages though, as things like pt3bar and autobar provides the popup so you could access the other items if you ever ran out of the primary one |
| 13:44.13 | Tamaroth | orionshock: i'm trying |
| 13:44.38 | Stanzilla | Adirelle|work: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8370-Buffet.html something like that? |
| 13:44.54 | Tamaroth | but i figured that i will add my own combat log even unfiltered parser |
| 13:45.24 | Tamaroth | since AddCombatListener do not forward guid |
| 13:48.10 | Adirelle|work | Stanzilla: yep, something like this, plus pet food macro |
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| 13:53.05 | Fisker- | o hai |
| 13:53.19 | Ellipsis | Fisker-s Fisker- |
| 13:53.24 | thul | hai 2 u 2 |
| 13:54.04 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
| 14:04.27 | Tamaroth | :format("text") works similar to sprintf ? |
| 14:05.58 | cncfanatics | thats definatly a bug :p |
| 14:06.05 | cncfanatics | oops, wrong window >.> |
| 14:06.22 | Ellipsis | nah, believe it or not Fisker- is working as intended |
| 14:06.31 | Antiarc | Tamaroth: Yes |
| 14:07.16 | Antiarc | > print(("%2.2f"):format("123.123123123123")) -> 123.12 |
| 14:08.17 | Ellipsis | gah |
| 14:08.26 | Ellipsis | why can't I shift-click names in chat to /who them |
| 14:08.37 | Antiarc | On beta? |
| 14:09.11 | Ellipsis | yeah |
| 14:09.21 | Antiarc | It's broken this patch |
| 14:09.24 | Fisker- | it consumes me as wel |
| 14:09.24 | Fisker- | well |
| 14:09.26 | Ellipsis | dammit blizzard |
| 14:09.29 | Antiarc | Dressing rooming item links is too |
| 14:09.31 | Ellipsis | why must you break perfectly goood features |
| 14:09.40 | Ellipsis | s/ooo/oo/ |
| 14:09.42 | Antiarc | Like making poisons? :V |
| 14:09.48 | Ellipsis | qqqqqq |
| 14:09.56 | Ellipsis | how about like clicking zones on the map |
| 14:10.01 | Ellipsis | >_> |
| 14:10.56 | Antiarc | Yes, Ithink that's broken too |
| 14:11.18 | Ellipsis | again with the breaking things that were just fine |
| 14:11.27 | Fisker- | breaks Ellipsis |
| 14:11.40 | cncfanatics | that wasn't something that was just fine Fisker- |
| 14:11.49 | Ellipsis | yeah I'm really buggy |
| 14:11.49 | Fisker- | :( |
| 14:12.17 | Fisker- | i just want to play spore |
| 14:12.24 | Ellipsis | we know. |
| 14:13.01 | Fisker- | are you psychic? |
| 14:13.02 | Fisker- | >:3 |
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| 14:13.18 | Ellipsis | yep, it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you've been whining nonstop about it ;P |
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| 14:13.22 | CIA-25 | 03johny * r81225 10TwinCam_Overlay/ (TwinCam_Overlay.lua TwinCam_Overlay.toc): |
| 14:13.22 | CIA-25 | TwinCam_Overlay: |
| 14:13.22 | CIA-25 | - Allow configuration of opacity of stun warning overlay. |
| 14:13.39 | Gandharva | is there an addon that remembers action bar settings? |
| 14:15.17 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81226 10Yatba/ (BarPrototypes.lua Yatba.lua): |
| 14:15.17 | CIA-25 | Yatba: |
| 14:15.17 | CIA-25 | - refresh all bars on player death, |
| 14:15.17 | CIA-25 | - remove all bars when zoning out, |
| 14:15.17 | CIA-25 | - attempt to get rid of sticky headers. |
| 14:15.19 | Fisker- | like i would whine Ellipsis :o |
| 14:16.44 | Anaral | Gandharva: What do you mean? |
| 14:17.44 | Gandharva | an addon or tool that remembers the exact position of each spell/ability in my actionbars. for easier account switching ;) |
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| 14:18.34 | Ellipsis | there are a few |
| 14:18.40 | Ellipsis | actionbarsaver I think is one |
| 14:19.06 | thul | hmm |
| 14:19.09 | thul | very cute client here now |
| 14:19.10 | thul | :-D |
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| 14:19.32 | Ellipsis | no pix no proof |
| 14:19.39 | thul | hehe |
| 14:20.01 | Anaral | Gandharva: I know in LK there are more server side saves, not sure if action bars is one of them. Though that is a good idea. |
| 14:20.16 | nevcairiel | action bars have always been server saved |
| 14:20.22 | nevcairiel | doesnt help you when you switch accounts, still :P |
| 14:21.36 | Gandharva | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver.html#info |
| 14:21.59 | Gandharva | ActionBarSavers seems to do what i want. thx ellipsis |
| 14:22.05 | Ellipsis | happy to help |
| 14:22.24 | Anaral | Lol, true |
| 14:22.57 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81227 10Yatba/ (BarPrototypes.lua Options.lua Yatba.lua): Yatba: drycoded an option to disable raid icons. |
| 14:26.45 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81228 10Bartender4/ (ActionBarStates.lua Options/ActionBarStates.lua): Bartender4: fix stance options |
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| 14:41.02 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 14:41.17 | Fisker- | get pumped with a new special offer from Fleshlight! |
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| 14:41.35 | Fisker- | I'm intrigued etc. |
| 14:42.13 | Ellipsis | whatever does it for you |
| 14:42.27 | Ellipsis | most of this channel probably doesn't want to know about it though ;) |
| 14:42.43 | Fisker- | no way |
| 14:42.46 | Adirelle|work | anyone's using Yatba there ? |
| 14:42.49 | Fisker- | you guys love to hear about spam |
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| 14:43.31 | Elgren | Hello, I was just wondering if someone know whats going on with blizzards standard UI? I have trouble with targets target and seeing pets to party members. |
| 14:43.32 | Ellipsis | shivers |
| 14:43.39 | Fisker- | unshivers |
| 14:43.43 | Dark_Elf | has yatba, but not the lastest one, it reminds me of ebb except its smaller |
| 14:43.46 | Elgren | I know other people have this problem aswell. |
| 14:44.25 | Adirelle|work | Dark_Elf: ebb ? elkano's buff bar ? |
| 14:44.41 | Dark_Elf | well kinda |
| 14:44.50 | Elgren | Dark_Elf, whats wrong with EBB? Its very configurable. |
| 14:44.57 | Elgren | What are you trying to do accomplish? |
| 14:45.40 | Dark_Elf | in a way it is |
| 14:45.51 | Dark_Elf | different purpose though |
| 14:46.26 | Elgren | I just joined |
| 14:46.30 | Elgren | what you need to do mate? |
| 14:46.54 | Dark_Elf | i dont need to do nothing |
| 14:47.10 | Adirelle|work | I just asked because I would like some feedback |
| 14:47.43 | Elgren | alright |
| 14:47.47 | Adirelle|work | I'm wondering about the white/black listing feature |
| 14:47.55 | Elgren | yep? |
| 14:49.03 | Adirelle|work | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=14805.msg239722#msg239722 |
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| 14:53.59 | Elkano | hmm? |
| 14:57.00 | Tamaroth | hmm, guys, do i need special permission to release plugin to bigwigs from authors ? |
| 14:58.00 | Fisker- | a seperate mod shouldn't be a problem |
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| 15:00.42 | thul | OPEN SOURCE TO THE PEOPLE |
| 15:01.21 | Ellipsis | opens thul's source |
| 15:01.36 | thul | mmmm |
| 15:01.38 | thul | do it MOAR |
| 15:01.56 | Ellipsis | say please |
| 15:02.53 | Tamaroth | yeah, so far i'm trying to figure out how to upload mine addon :) |
| 15:02.58 | Tamaroth | my* |
| 15:03.12 | Ellipsis | do you have a svn account? |
| 15:03.25 | Tamaroth | you see, good to know that you need one! |
| 15:03.26 | thul | pretty please Ellipsis |
| 15:03.35 | Ellipsis | does it harder |
| 15:03.39 | thul | oooh... |
| 15:03.40 | thul | MOAR |
| 15:03.41 | Adirelle|work | Tamaroth: search for SVN on http://www.wowace.com/ |
| 15:04.06 | Adirelle|work | you guys and girls are crazy |
| 15:04.10 | Tamaroth | well, i know what svn is, but i'm looking for place to create svn account :) |
| 15:04.41 | Adirelle|work | Tamaroth: they are instructions on how to get access to the wowace repository |
| 15:04.43 | Elgren | Ellipsis honi, you know anything about problems with target's target, or seeing party pets? |
| 15:04.49 | thul | is not svn just as cvs? |
| 15:05.06 | Tamaroth | Adirelle|work: yeah i found it, but i'd like to get my separate one, so it won't collide |
| 15:05.30 | Ellipsis | Elgren: I don't play on live, and especially not with default UI, so no |
| 15:05.34 | Tamaroth | and i won't mess up with commiting to someione's else branch |
| 15:05.38 | Elgren | :) |
| 15:06.33 | Ellipsis | all I can say is check your options to make sure it's enabled, and try it with all addons disabled (in case it's a taint issue) |
| 15:07.16 | thul | HONY |
| 15:08.35 | Fisker- | is best |
| 15:09.47 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81229 10Bartender4/ (11 files in 3 dirs): |
| 15:09.47 | CIA-25 | Bartender4: add options to control the new visibility driver |
| 15:09.47 | CIA-25 | - currently supports: always hide, when possing possess, combat/nocombat, pet/nopet, stance:X |
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| 15:10.13 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 15:10.20 | nevcairiel | somehow i screwed up that message |
| 15:10.22 | nevcairiel | edits |
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| 15:11.46 | Fisker- | protects |
| 15:14.49 | Ellipsis | distracts Fisker- |
| 15:14.59 | Fisker- | runs around after SHINEH |
| 15:14.59 | thul | backstabs Fisker- |
| 15:15.15 | Ellipsis | fears Fisker- |
| 15:15.16 | Fisker- | <\3 |
| 15:15.39 | nevcairiel | Hm i guess i should write a simple validator for the custom-syntax box |
| 15:15.40 | Stanzilla | dispels Fisker- |
| 15:15.47 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 15:15.52 | Ellipsis | death coils Stanzilla |
| 15:16.04 | thul | cheap shots Stanzilla |
| 15:16.14 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 15:16.25 | Stanzilla | priest < * |
| 15:16.41 | Ellipsis | spams UA on everyone in the channel |
| 15:16.43 | Ellipsis | mwahahahaha |
| 15:16.48 | thul | I like shadowstep -> ambush-> vanish->cheap shot |
| 15:16.54 | eliteevil | bubbles and starts dispelling UA |
| 15:17.16 | Ellipsis | waits patiently |
| 15:17.47 | Ellipsis | recasts UA |
| 15:18.04 | thul | My new tactic in 2v2 is quite simple, spare vanish, trinket and clos as long as possible, use BF and AR at will |
| 15:18.07 | thul | :-D |
| 15:18.13 | eliteevil | At least you're not spamming moonfire at everyone in the raid like those damn druid reflections. |
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| 15:18.46 | eliteevil | or HoJ spamming me with no DR like the pallies. =( |
| 15:20.10 | Pneumatus | zzz slow day today, only had 3 Greater Frost Protection Potion recipies drop |
| 15:20.41 | Stanzilla | someone's farming wintersaber repu |
| 15:20.47 | Pneumatus | uhuh |
| 15:21.06 | Pneumatus | i cant even give these patterns away |
| 15:23.28 | Stanzilla | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/august/wormhole.jpg < wow this is so useful |
| 15:24.04 | Pneumatus | why would you need a portal to gz? |
| 15:24.25 | Adirelle|work | CoT ? |
| 15:24.27 | nevcairiel | CoT:Stratholme! |
| 15:24.35 | Stanzilla | when you dont have the reputation for the port in shatt maybe |
| 15:24.35 | nevcairiel | maybe there will be others |
| 15:24.37 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 15:24.38 | Stanzilla | still crap :P |
| 15:24.48 | Pneumatus | well you can just teleport to CoT though from shatt |
| 15:24.52 | Stanzilla | yes |
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| 15:25.17 | Nimbal | comes into the room, cussing about Blizzard's icon naming "system" |
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| 15:31.23 | steev | Ellipsis: any luck if you attempted to reproduce? |
| 15:32.07 | Antiarc | Man |
| 15:32.15 | Antiarc | Murder Spree is such an awesome 51 point PVE talent |
| 15:32.16 | Antiarc | http://pastey.net/95228 |
| 15:33.05 | steev | wow... are you using daggers? |
| 15:33.11 | Antiarc | Full combat |
| 15:33.36 | Antiarc | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=41824 and the 130 DPS offhand sword from Wintergrasp |
| 15:34.04 | steev | er |
| 15:34.14 | thul | FAIL |
| 15:34.20 | Antiarc | Massive fail. |
| 15:34.31 | steev | respecs subtlety for wotlk |
| 15:35.06 | steev | that is just horrible |
| 15:35.44 | steev | are you using double instant? |
| 15:37.17 | Antiarc | deadly/instant |
| 15:37.22 | Antiarc | Because crippling is broken :V |
| 15:38.11 | steev | at level 78... with those weapons... you are hitting for way less than i do right now at 70? |
| 15:38.14 | Funkeh` | ahh, back home |
| 15:38.17 | Ellipsis | I imagine pvp is pretty silly on beta with so many things breaking |
| 15:38.20 | Funkeh` | lies down |
| 15:38.23 | Antiarc | I'm level 80 |
| 15:38.27 | Antiarc | And go go level 80 armor mitigation rates. |
| 15:38.42 | Antiarc | I have 2250 AP right now |
| 15:38.52 | Antiarc | And weapons with far higher base damage than level 70 weapons |
| 15:38.56 | Antiarc | And hit like a wet noodle |
| 15:38.59 | Antiarc | It's depressing has hell |
| 15:39.02 | Anaral | lol |
| 15:39.08 | Funkeh` | qq |
| 15:39.10 | Anaral | Aww, poor Antiarc |
| 15:39.22 | Ellipsis | my damage is fine so far :3 |
| 15:39.25 | Antiarc | Well considering that DKs are hitting me with 10k Scourge Strikes |
| 15:39.27 | Funkeh` | time for some tf2 |
| 15:39.28 | Antiarc | And 9k Frost Strikes |
| 15:39.28 | Stanzilla | I like wet noodles |
| 15:39.31 | Antiarc | I'm pretty irate! |
| 15:39.40 | Antiarc | Oh, while they do 1k+ DPS with their DOTs |
| 15:39.50 | Antiarc | And if I DO kill them |
| 15:39.56 | Antiarc | they come back as a ghoul that melees me for about 3k |
| 15:40.04 | Lukian | ahaha |
| 15:40.20 | thul | sounds very cozy Antiarc :-P |
| 15:40.25 | Chompers | reroll time Antiarc |
| 15:40.29 | Ellipsis | ^ |
| 15:40.30 | thul | Antiarc: spec subt and do a ambush for me plz. |
| 15:40.33 | thul | cloth ambuush |
| 15:40.35 | thul | pref a lvl 71 |
| 15:40.38 | thul | GO FOR IT |
| 15:40.43 | Antiarc | I will later |
| 15:40.49 | steev | is there going to be more arenas and welfare epix that are awesomer pve than pvp without requiring raiding? |
| 15:40.51 | Antiarc | I had a 4.2k ambush as Mut spec |
| 15:41.01 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81230 10Bartender4/ (11 files in 3 dirs): Bartender4: add custom-conditional support to visibility driver, does not validate the syntax yet, so take care |
| 15:41.11 | nevcairiel | Ellipsis: go nuts with your pet needs :p |
| 15:41.25 | Ellipsis | I never thought I'd say this, but can I have your babies? |
| 15:41.28 | thul | I hope my rogue will turn out viable in wotlk :-( |
| 15:41.29 | Antiarc | Oh, also |
| 15:41.35 | Antiarc | DKs get stun immunity |
| 15:41.47 | thul | or else I'll roll DK as 95% of the people will. |
| 15:41.48 | Antiarc | And enough mitigation that my level 80 double crit mutilates are landing for about 2600 |
| 15:42.15 | nevcairiel | All pvp needs some serious tuning, but they are not there just yet |
| 15:42.25 | thul | sounds sexy, tell me again: why will people roll other classes than dk? |
| 15:42.29 | Antiarc | rogues are just broken in general right now |
| 15:42.33 | Antiarc | I did Halls of Stone the other day |
| 15:42.38 | Antiarc | I outdamaged the paladin tank by 11% |
| 15:42.40 | steev | thul: someone has to heal them? |
| 15:42.42 | Ellipsis | I demand they make my character not purple before any pvp fixes can begin |
| 15:42.47 | thul | steev: they can't bandage? :-P |
| 15:42.57 | Antiarc | DKs get a lot of passive self heals |
| 15:43.12 | Antiarc | It's been toned down but a guildmate leveled his DK from 55-74 just AOE grinding |
| 15:43.17 | Antiarc | 10, 12 mobs at a time |
| 15:43.20 | Antiarc | And would walk out at 100% HP |
| 15:43.26 | Ellipsis | it's almost like playing a pally! |
| 15:43.34 | thul | just with dps added |
| 15:43.36 | thul | GREAT |
| 15:43.43 | steev | i can't take 10-12 mobs at a time :( |
| 15:43.51 | nevcairiel | I saw a lvl 72 prot pally in sholazar the other day |
| 15:43.55 | nevcairiel | was hilarious |
| 15:43.56 | thul | anyhow, what are they going to do about plate/mitigation vs. rogues? |
| 15:44.01 | Lukian | <Antiarc> I outdamaged the paladin tank by 11% <- Hey paladins have dps now, thul, didn't you hear? :D |
| 15:44.06 | nevcairiel | he had like 4 mobs, didnt loose any HP, but didnt do any dmg either =P |
| 15:44.07 | Antiarc | Prot paladins? |
| 15:44.11 | thul | Lukian: haha, ok :-P |
| 15:44.16 | Lukian | Antiarc, of course! |
| 15:45.35 | steev | im oom after 2 mobs :( |
| 15:45.52 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: with 4/5 levels difference i doubt he could land a melee hit :P |
| 15:45.54 | steev | but thats why i always hit up a bg first thing when i login to game |
| 15:46.07 | nevcairiel | it was terribly funny to watch |
| 15:46.15 | nevcairiel | i mean i cleared like the camp while he did his 4 mobs |
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| 15:56.49 | CIA-25 | 03sylvanaar * r81231 10Prat-3.0/services/links.lua: |
| 15:56.49 | CIA-25 | Prat-3.0 (Alpha): |
| 15:56.49 | CIA-25 | Fix the stupid bug where you cant shift or ctrl click links in WotLK |
| 15:57.12 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81232 10Bartender4/Bar.lua: Bartender4: prevent spam when turning off custom mode again |
| 15:57.36 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: so its my chat mods fault or did you fix the bug for blizzard? :D |
| 15:58.03 | Gnarfoz | I'm gonna second that question for Chatter ;> |
| 15:58.26 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel i just fixed it for blizzard |
| 15:58.47 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel its not very hard to fix |
| 15:59.53 | sylvanaar | ~ /reverttopreviousbuild |
| 15:59.58 | steev | Gnarfoz: chatter is yours? |
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| 16:01.42 | Gnarfoz | steev: no, it's Antiarcs, but I'm using Chatter, not Prat ;) |
| 16:02.07 | sylvanaar | copy/paste |
| 16:02.09 | Gnarfoz | (or is it? can't remember these days, he's around so rarely ^^) |
| 16:02.45 | steev | ahh |
| 16:02.51 | nevcairiel | I want my druid back, stupid black hole in front of CoT:Stratholem got her, and GMs are not answering .P |
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| 16:03.07 | sylvanaar | its labor day |
| 16:03.07 | Stanzilla | Chatter is maintained by ThePersonWhoCares (TM) :P |
| 16:03.08 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: at least your char is stuck. my pally is broken :X |
| 16:03.26 | steev | i'd love to take my pally to the beta |
| 16:03.27 | sylvanaar | i was stuck in halls of lightning |
| 16:03.30 | nevcairiel | sylvanaar: EU GMs work on the EU realms |
| 16:03.31 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: yeah, I care, but looking at sylvanaar's commit it seems he basically recreated the SetItemRef function? |
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| 16:03.40 | steev | but i got reported shortly before beta so i don't think ima get a beta invite |
| 16:03.57 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz i copy/pasted it from a working build of wotlk |
| 16:04.03 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: ah^^ |
| 16:04.12 | steev | some dick told me to keep my level 62 ret pally out of AV cuz "you lose the game for the rest of us" |
| 16:04.16 | Antiarc | Chatter's mine, I just have had absolutely zero modding time in the past couple of months |
| 16:04.28 | Antiarc | I've got a bunch of incompletely work :( |
| 16:04.36 | Gnarfoz | at the moment, my pally sucks because as ret, he's oom faster than I can spell his name, and as holy, I get 5 copies of Beacon of Light instead of 1 |
| 16:04.40 | steev | so i asked him if he ever wondered if his mom gave his dad a blowjob right before she kissed him goodnight |
| 16:04.46 | steev | and he reported me :( |
| 16:05.02 | Gnarfoz | of which: 1 is 1.5sec cast, 1 is instant (this is the one I should have), and the other 3 are instant, no GCD, no mana cost 1hp heals. |
| 16:05.37 | Gnarfoz | the 3 are the ones that the game "calls" when someone near the beacon is healed, obviously, because they actually heal the beacon if I buff someone with the instant cast beacon spell |
| 16:05.43 | Gnarfoz | but my normal heals don't... |
| 16:05.43 | steev | Antiarc: eh? chatter works fine here - i was actally gonna say thanks |
| 16:05.45 | Gnarfoz | fuck that :X |
| 16:05.56 | Gnarfoz | steev: he didn't say it was broken? :P |
| 16:06.10 | Gnarfoz | oh, and Illumination doesn't work, either |
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| 16:06.27 | Gnarfoz | so I'm worthless as holy, worthless as ret, and I can't be arsed to level as prot :p |
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| 16:08.01 | Ellipsis | paladins: worthless. |
| 16:08.05 | Ellipsis | sounds about right to me! |
| 16:08.35 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: :x |
| 16:08.48 | winkiller | +1 |
| 16:08.49 | steev | kicks Ellipsis |
| 16:09.12 | winkiller | I deleted a pally at 17 and currently have a level 12 one on a deserted server |
| 16:09.17 | winkiller | yay for paladins :> |
| 16:09.36 | steev | all i know is i <3 my wings |
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| 16:16.31 | Gnarfoz | all I know is: LK pally > BC pally |
| 16:16.41 | Gnarfoz | although the ret mana problems suck ass right now :X |
| 16:16.52 | CIA-25 | 03jokeyrhyme * r81233 10FuBar_RaidSaveFu/ (6 files): FuBar_RaidSaveFu: Initial SVN import (first timer here, how many ways will I screw this up?) |
| 16:16.56 | Srosh | Well, be happy judgements work again. :P |
| 16:17.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah :X |
| 16:17.03 | Gnarfoz | that build sucked |
| 16:17.07 | Gnarfoz | ok, with JoW and sticking to CS/judge rotation, you will not run OOM |
| 16:17.15 | Gnarfoz | but well, why the fuck do we get DS when we can't use it :p |
| 16:17.37 | nevcairiel | you can use it, you just need to drink |
| 16:17.42 | nevcairiel | other mana classes need that too |
| 16:17.46 | Srosh | The usual disclaimer aside, I would wager that DS isn't meant to be used in a standard rotation. |
| 16:17.54 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah, drinking in combat works well ;) |
| 16:18.07 | Gnarfoz | Srosh: well, we're back to terrible DPS, then - that's my point ;) |
| 16:18.22 | Gnarfoz | the last word on Potion Sickness has not been spoken I guess |
| 16:18.33 | nevcairiel | besides, the latest build is the first with the new mana regeneration thing |
| 16:18.36 | Gnarfoz | I have no problem with chain-potting if mana is my dps source |
| 16:18.36 | nevcairiel | maybe they adjust it |
| 16:18.58 | nevcairiel | I've been told shadow priests are even more fail now |
| 16:19.06 | Gnarfoz | doubt it, because for other classes, the 0.5% basemana seem ok-ish... for ret-paladins themselves though ;X |
| 16:19.27 | Srosh | There will be adjustments, numbers are last. |
| 16:19.50 | nevcairiel | maybe they adjust your mana usage now that you dont regen like shit anymore |
| 16:19.53 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 16:19.54 | Gnarfoz | I know, this is a mechanics prblem, though, I guess |
| 16:20.03 | Gnarfoz | THIS... IS... |
| 16:20.04 | Gnarfoz | SPECULATION! |
| 16:20.08 | CIA-25 | 03hedin * r81234 10WFtotem/ (WFtotem.toc core.lua enUS.lua ruRU.lua): WFtotem: ruRU Localized |
| 16:20.17 | Ellipsis | sparta? |
| 16:20.19 | Srosh | If you're not able to use DS in a solo rotation, doesn't mean it has to be the same in a raid situation. |
| 16:20.20 | Gnarfoz | not quite |
| 16:20.45 | Gnarfoz | Srosh: uhm well, there's just one manareg buff now, so things are pretty much the same between solo and raid now |
| 16:21.05 | nevcairiel | well you have more then one person doing the buff |
| 16:21.09 | nevcairiel | so you might get it more often P |
| 16:21.11 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 16:21.12 | Gnarfoz | paladins will end up in resto shaman groups for mana tide totem :D |
| 16:21.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: self gets it first, anyway, and it runs for 10 seconds, while judgement is on a 8sec cd ;) |
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| 16:21.55 | Gnarfoz | no matter, we'll just see how it pans out |
| 16:22.16 | Elsia | heya |
| 16:22.20 | Gnarfoz | I can't take part in discussions where it matters (i.e. US beta forums) anyway, so bleh :) |
| 16:22.25 | Gnarfoz | hi elsia |
| 16:23.18 | Gnarfoz | so, TourGuide question |
| 16:23.35 | Gnarfoz | which can probably be answered by reading a FAQ or something: does it have a "recording" mode? :D |
| 16:24.15 | Stanzilla | TourGuide_Recorder |
| 16:24.15 | Ellipsis | there is a separate addon, TourGuide_Recorder |
| 16:24.16 | winkiller | wotlk titles will be fun. first hunter to 80: after 1h, rest: after 24h. first paladin: after 2 weeks :D |
| 16:24.16 | Stanzilla | :P |
| 16:24.30 | winkiller | s /1h/12h/ |
| 16:25.08 | Elsia | doesn' |
| 16:25.21 | nevcairiel | I think those titles are stupid |
| 16:25.30 | nevcairiel | those are usually account shares anyway |
| 16:25.31 | Elsia | doesn't speed leveling involve groups with AoE support, hence should be about equally fast for each classes, faster for fast mount classes (palas)? |
| 16:25.36 | winkiller | most are. first to 80 is fine |
| 16:25.38 | winkiller | rest is weird |
| 16:25.41 | winkiller | but a nice idea |
| 16:26.16 | winkiller | it all boils down if you have vacation in the launch week :P |
| 16:26.28 | winkiller | or need no sleep between 2 workdays :) |
| 16:26.38 | nevcairiel | even then, i wouldnt play 24/7 just to get a freaking title |
| 16:26.55 | nevcairiel | and people that would should reconsider their life |
| 16:27.04 | Elsia | it's kinda stupid even, so there is new content, lets breeze through it as quickly as possible so you miss half the fun |
| 16:27.04 | Antiarc | http://pastey.net/95230 |
| 16:27.07 | Antiarc | Schnaps. |
| 16:28.04 | nevcairiel | you need more evasion |
| 16:28.10 | winkiller | nevcairiel: well. if I just schedule my playtime and not play *more* - I see no problem in getting a title :P |
| 16:28.28 | winkiller | if I *had* vacation on launch week, I might go for one of the prof titles |
| 16:28.33 | winkiller | and then make a break :P |
| 16:28.38 | nevcairiel | winkiller: i know enough people that let their kids or whatever play, just to rush through |
| 16:28.45 | winkiller | WTB kids! |
| 16:28.47 | nevcairiel | and thats stupid |
| 16:28.57 | Elsia | I actually like the idea of speed run awards, like fastest to clear an instance gets a title, and the title migrates with the fastest... would keep instances fresh much longer |
| 16:29.05 | winkiller | damn,if only I could make my parents farm gold for me |
| 16:29.05 | Throngy | anybody planning on the fishing one? |
| 16:29.13 | winkiller | lol no way |
| 16:29.13 | Throngy | i'm sure i could get the wife to click that for me |
| 16:29.15 | Ellipsis | people did that race in TBC when there was no title or proof at all that you were the one :P |
| 16:29.16 | nevcairiel | Elsia: well thats fine, if you can challenge the one holding the title |
| 16:29.29 | nevcairiel | but a one-time title on a server |
| 16:29.36 | winkiller | /played should be counted for the title |
| 16:29.46 | nevcairiel | that would be a nice touch |
| 16:29.47 | winkiller | then you CAN challenge it on an alt :) |
| 16:29.51 | Ellipsis | also account sharing is not a good way to be server first |
| 16:30.02 | Ellipsis | it's much less efficient than doing it all yourself |
| 16:30.05 | Elsia | The /played Achievement: "How do you kill that which has absolutely no life" |
| 16:30.13 | Throngy | lol |
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| 16:30.41 | winkiller | I would still prefer more accesible titles |
| 16:30.55 | nevcairiel | I can probably even level pretty fast, i'm good at managing routes and i have a crazy brain that already remembers nearly all quests that i did in beta |
| 16:31.03 | winkiller | for example my main is rank 11 + Conqueror + Hand of A'dal - and most of my alts have none |
| 16:31.06 | nevcairiel | but i really cba to play that intensively for a week |
| 16:31.55 | nevcairiel | But i still want that Arch Druid title |
| 16:32.00 | Elsia | titles are fine, it's like timbermaw diplomats, if you absolutely want to grind some mobs for a few months, go for it |
| 16:32.11 | Pneumatus | s/months/days/ |
| 16:32.22 | Elsia | well it used to be months ;) |
| 16:33.11 | steev | the ally was... underwhelming |
| 16:33.22 | steev | definitely not worth the grind at 60 |
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| 16:33.59 | Elsia | whats the name of the website again that keeps track of blizz's lua file changes? |
| 16:34.06 | nevcairiel | wowcompares.com |
| 16:34.07 | Pneumatus | wowcompares |
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| 16:34.10 | Elsia | thanks |
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| 16:35.45 | CIA-25 | 03jokeyrhyme * r81235 10FuBar_RaidSaveFu/ (. FuBar_RaidSaveFu.toc RaidSaveFu.lua): FuBar_RaidSaveFu: Fixed SVN properties (including externals) |
| 16:36.03 | Ellipsis | craves turkey |
| 16:36.19 | Fisker- | turkeys cravings |
| 16:36.23 | Gnarfoz | www.turkiye.tr |
| 16:36.31 | Gnarfoz | oh wait :X |
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| 16:39.03 | Chompers | oh man, they took out the level 1 RaF quest xp thing |
| 16:39.07 | Chompers | that sucks |
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| 16:41.30 | Elsia | hmm anyone got a WotLK friendly handling example of SetScript based on self,... rather than this,argN? |
| 16:41.51 | Elsia | "OnMouseDown" specifically |
| 16:42.10 | nevcairiel | not much changed, really |
| 16:42.21 | nevcairiel | you just have to use the function arguments, rather then the global values |
| 16:42.46 | Elsia | I see, let me try that. argN should be safe to use locally or no? |
| 16:42.51 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:42.55 | Gnarfoz | worst case, you could just name all args in your function definition and tack a , ... onto it, if you're hooking something |
| 16:43.05 | Elsia | hmm easy enough |
| 16:43.07 | nevcairiel | frame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(self, button) .... code here .... end) |
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| 16:43.17 | Elsia | thanks |
| 16:43.41 | steev | wish you could use javascript in addons, that would be pretty fun |
| 16:44.02 | Elsia | so the lazy can really just do frame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(this, arg1) ... and keep the old code unchanged otherwise |
| 16:44.47 | nevcairiel | well you can |
| 16:44.47 | nevcairiel | but its really not good =P |
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| 16:44.47 | Elsia | hehe |
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| 16:50.28 | Elsia | hmm this is neat, I never liked "this" |
| 16:55.52 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: why so modular :X |
| 16:56.09 | Antiarc | Because I dislike massive vomiting of code into single files |
| 16:56.11 | Gnarfoz | I'm struggling to do the same to Chatter as sylvanaar did to prat ;D |
| 16:56.11 | Antiarc | It's hard to maintain |
| 16:56.25 | Antiarc | It'll be a function hook somewhere |
| 16:56.29 | Antiarc | I suspect |
| 16:56.47 | Gnarfoz | actually, I think I'll do this another way |
| 16:57.01 | nevcairiel | just add it to some file |
| 16:57.04 | Gnarfoz | I'll just replace the global function with the one from the previous build :D |
| 16:57.08 | Fisker- | blargh i'm ded |
| 16:57.26 | Gnarfoz | I have a "random stuff" addon anyway, might as well squeeze it in there |
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| 17:00.41 | alcaras | q: What is the texture behind the mainmenu bar in the default UI? The sort of gray stone for the action buttons? |
| 17:02.03 | steev | whats the pre-req's to start doing the trial of the naaru quests? |
| 17:04.10 | alcaras | Hand of GUl'dan chain, steev |
| 17:04.18 | alcaras | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10680 |
| 17:04.32 | Elsia | starts with killing elementals in smv and is a pretty long chain |
| 17:04.41 | steev | ahh okay |
| 17:04.58 | steev | im a ret pally, i have plenty of time to do long chain quests while waiting in lfg |
| 17:05.17 | Elsia | some of the quests need groups :P |
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| 17:25.44 | Nimbal | Is there a library for constructing tree views similar to RockConfig? |
| 17:26.19 | Elsia | ace3gui? |
| 17:27.48 | CIA-25 | 03ColdLogic * r81236 10COLDCID/ (COLDCID.lua COLDCID.xml COLDCIDTitleBar.tga): |
| 17:27.48 | CIA-25 | COLDCID: |
| 17:27.48 | CIA-25 | -Added title bar to UI |
| 17:27.48 | CIA-25 | -Modified search algorithm |
| 17:28.56 | Nimbal | Hm.. yes... TreeGroup looks promising. Thanks! |
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| 17:36.29 | Ellipsis | ...what the... |
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| 17:37.13 | Ellipsis | why is there LibKeyBoundExtra-1.0 and KeyBoundExtra-1.0? |
| 17:37.17 | Ellipsis | the latter of which is merely a toc file |
| 17:38.25 | nevcairiel | dont question toadkillers doings, or you'll go and cry :( |
| 17:38.39 | Ellipsis | my brain....I think it's melting |
| 17:39.00 | Ellipsis | it makes KeyBoundExtra-1.0 no-ext kind of amusing though |
| 17:39.27 | Ellipsis | I go in there to see what little bit of code I need to enable the spellbook binding functionality and then do a double-take when I see no lua |
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| 17:41.49 | Ellipsis | so, I'm getting the impression we're not supposed to disembed CBH just like we're not supposed to disembed libstub? |
| 17:43.54 | Hjalte | hugs Ellipsis |
| 17:44.01 | Ellipsis | heyas Hjalte :) |
| 17:44.04 | Hjalte | I haven't had internet for more than a week :( |
| 17:44.11 | Ellipsis | ! |
| 17:44.13 | Ellipsis | how did you survive? |
| 17:44.29 | Hjalte | Girls! Real ones! |
| 17:44.40 | Ellipsis | lies, there are no girls off the internets |
| 17:45.02 | Hjalte | I've been missing my internet lots :) |
| 17:45.11 | Ellipsis | it's ok, we're here now ^-^ |
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| 17:51.57 | Elsia | does devtools have a compact format mode, so it doesn't show subtree entries? |
| 17:52.30 | nevcairiel | use Spew from tekkub, its much better with dumping tables |
| 17:52.42 | Elsia | I'll check it out thanks |
| 17:52.57 | nevcairiel | for one it opens a frame to show it |
| 17:52.58 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:52.59 | Ellipsis | spew makes me happy in all kinds of places |
| 17:53.40 | Daemona | but dont spill anything |
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| 17:55.45 | nevcairiel | man someone make that GM hurry |
| 17:55.51 | nevcairiel | i dont want to be stuck in CoT all day |
| 17:58.20 | Nimbal | Does anyone know of an example implementation for the TabGroup of AceGUI-3? |
| 18:07.05 | Carancu | Do Eclipse give any visible buff when it have procced? |
| 18:07.36 | Carancu | for druids that is. |
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| 18:12.42 | steev | hrm |
| 18:12.46 | steev | i need a bettar tank |
| 18:13.05 | steev | my ret pally can steal aggro from every tank i've ever run with :( |
| 18:14.01 | Hjalte | steev: live or beta? |
| 18:14.26 | Ackis | wow http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2124/wowscrnshot082708222746ks8.jpg 32 person multibox |
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| 18:16.00 | Fisker- | old Ackis |
| 18:16.11 | Fisker- | some n00b posted it on #wowuidev |
| 18:16.35 | Ellipsis | was it you? |
| 18:16.55 | Gnarfoz | nope, it was ackis. :p |
| 18:17.01 | Ackis | :P |
| 18:18.28 | [Liquidor] | hi |
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| 18:21.41 | Fisker- | Ellipsis' Ellipsis |
| 18:22.16 | steev | Hjalte: live |
| 18:22.28 | steev | 3 swings in, i took aggro on gruul |
| 18:24.16 | Zhinjio | G'morning, worthies./ |
| 18:24.23 | Kaelten | heya zhin |
| 18:24.38 | Ackis | heya Zhinjio |
| 18:25.22 | Hjalte | steev: Yeah, then you need a better tank. |
| 18:25.39 | steev | Ellipsis: i should also mention, that i haven't updated all of the mods - some of them may or may not have updates, but wowaceupdater only shows pitbull as having been updated recently |
| 18:25.43 | Zhinjio | Ackis, I got s'more done last night between baby crying sessions. |
| 18:25.52 | Zhinjio | I have more questions for you soonly |
| 18:26.37 | Ellipsis | steev: well I did notice that at least some of them were not the most recent versions |
| 18:27.02 | Ellipsis | confused me a bit when I looked up a line number in one of your errors to find that the line was "end" |
| 18:27.04 | Ellipsis | :P |
| 18:27.28 | Ackis | Zhinjio: sweet :) I've been playing around with it in game today :D |
| 18:27.55 | CIA-25 | 03elsia * r81237 10Recount/ (8 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) |
| 18:27.55 | CIA-25 | Recount: |
| 18:27.55 | CIA-25 | - Fixed main window display bug when an old fight was selected. |
| 18:27.55 | CIA-25 | - Added "/recount pause" to toggle global data collection, plus added a keybinding for it. |
| 18:27.55 | CIA-25 | - Preparation for death track support. |
| 18:27.55 | Zhinjio | Ackis: http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2384-1/arl_0024.jpg |
| 18:27.56 | CIA-25 | - Fixed bug where death log entries were attributed to wrong name or time. |
| 18:28.00 | CIA-25 | - Fixed WotLK support for mouse scripts, bar dropdown works now. |
| 18:28.01 | Zhinjio | that was sometime last night |
| 18:28.14 | Zhinjio | showing these folks the gui for review and critique |
| 18:28.37 | steev | Ellipsis: hehe |
| 18:28.44 | steev | Ellipsis: wel |
| 18:28.45 | Ackis | Zhinjio: wow |
| 18:29.00 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 18:29.48 | Fisker- | ooh |
| 18:30.00 | Fisker- | Spore download time: |
| 18:30.00 | Fisker- | Estimated Download Time: |
| 18:30.00 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.01 | Fisker- | ;D |
| 18:30.02 | steev | Ellipsis: "I have modified some of the wowace addons. I personally don't use ace updater (I use TortoiseSVN), so I have no idea if there are problems when updating them with ace updater." |
| 18:30.10 | Ackis | Fisker-: you got it? :P |
| 18:30.11 | steev | from the person who did the interface |
| 18:30.17 | Fisker- | sure Ackis |
| 18:30.45 | Megalon | time to rule time and space with penismonsters? |
| 18:31.14 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 18:31.16 | Fisker- | and get B& |
| 18:31.17 | Ellipsis | steev: no worries, that's why I'm referring to the code in the zip you sent me instead of live versions now :) |
| 18:31.20 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 18:31.31 | steev | although i did a diff on pitbull last time, and the only change was the border artwork |
| 18:31.47 | Fisker- | slaps steev around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:31.48 | Fisker- | slaps Ellipsis around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:31.58 | steev | someone found the slap button in mirc! |
| 18:32.11 | Fisker- | i did a long time ago >:3 |
| 18:32.35 | steev | i stopped using mirc ages ago |
| 18:33.00 | steev | ugh |
| 18:33.05 | steev | 3 badges away from the libram |
| 18:34.34 | Zenom | how can i determine where the ss icon is on a bt4 bar in my addon? |
| 18:35.46 | Lyn | any recruit a friend user here? how long does the email need till it arrive? :O |
| 18:36.40 | Lyn | nevermind, its here |
| 18:37.07 | Ellipsis | apparently not long at all :P |
| 18:41.26 | Jygga | somebody here that uses rsnapshot for backups ? |
| 18:42.05 | alcaras | Is there a way to figure out if the interface option 'Always Show ActionBars' is set? |
| 18:42.20 | Jygga | i bet |
| 18:42.26 | Jygga | there is* |
| 18:42.29 | CIA-25 | 03elsia * r81238 10RecountDeathTrack/ (. DeathTrack.lua RecountDeathTrack.toc embeds.xml): |
| 18:42.30 | CIA-25 | RecountDeathTrack: |
| 18:42.30 | CIA-25 | - Initial commit |
| 18:42.30 | CIA-25 | - This adds a list frame showing a time stamp since combat start and the name of combatants that died. Clicking will lead to the standard individual death detail window, tooltip shows last damage taken. |
| 18:42.30 | CIA-25 | - Currently this is an optional module, requires Recount to work. |
| 18:42.33 | CIA-25 | - This is beta-ish. Feedback wanted, not complete yet. |
| 18:42.35 | CIA-25 | - Open by clicking the total bar in the main window view. |
| 18:46.49 | CIA-25 | 03elsia * r81239 10RecountDeathTrack/: |
| 18:46.49 | CIA-25 | RecountDeathTrack: |
| 18:46.49 | CIA-25 | - Fixed externals. |
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| 18:49.30 | Ellipsis | so it turns out that the default UI doesn't support players changing their names while in your party |
| 18:50.14 | alcaras | How do I figure out if the interface option 'Always Show ActionBars' is set? |
| 18:54.47 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: because that's... not possible? |
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| 18:54.56 | Fisker- | actually it is |
| 18:55.02 | Fisker- | had it happen a long time ago |
| 18:55.03 | Gnarfoz | even GM forced renaming requires logging out |
| 18:55.12 | Fisker- | Doesn't mean you leave the party |
| 18:55.21 | Gnarfoz | uhm right |
| 18:55.25 | Fisker- | Especially not if said party is a RAID |
| 18:55.30 | Fisker- | where you don't get removed by a logout |
| 18:55.34 | nocts | I just had it happen, hence why she mentioned it. |
| 18:55.37 | Fisker- | We had one getting renamed during a raid |
| 18:55.43 | nocts | The UI displayed the old name, the chat displayed the new name until a reload. |
| 18:55.51 | Fisker- | and the raid frame had him identified under the old name |
| 18:55.56 | Fisker- | but the nameplate was right |
| 18:56.16 | Fisker- | btw old news! |
| 18:57.23 | Zenom | are there any addons that work with bt4 that might be able to show me how to get like the bar/button for a particular spell? |
| 18:58.36 | alcaras | How can I get a frame to refresh after changing its attribute? e.g. mybutton:SetAttribute("showgrid", 1) won't change, even though the attribute changes |
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| 19:19.22 | [SW]Dodge | is there someone with a beta key who would check if my addon works on wotlk or if there are compability issues (dunno about changes in LUA API) |
| 19:19.29 | krka | [SW]Dodge: If you are referring to the programming language, you should write Lua instead of LUA |
| 19:19.54 | [SW]Dodge | krka: i write LUA if i want to write LUA :P |
| 19:21.09 | Ackis | fisker- is a meanie |
| 19:21.42 | Obelixprime | would chinchilla some how tie the quest tracking frame to it |
| 19:21.54 | Obelixprime | i.e. its sort of off centre and i can't move it at all |
| 19:21.58 | Fisker- | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:23.18 | steev | wtf |
| 19:23.28 | steev | can't we get a license |
| 19:23.31 | steev | to play wow |
| 19:23.35 | steev | to get rid of the retards |
| 19:23.36 | Ackis | license? |
| 19:23.37 | Ellipsis | Obelixprime: enable the mover for it |
| 19:23.46 | steev | yes |
| 19:23.49 | steev | i just got a tell |
| 19:23.55 | steev | "where did you just fly here from?" |
| 19:23.55 | Fisker- | I got a license to Ellipsis |
| 19:23.56 | Zenom | wtb help on changing a spell texture heh |
| 19:24.03 | Ellipsis | no way Fisker- |
| 19:24.04 | steev | um, sanctum of the stars |
| 19:24.07 | Ellipsis | those are expensive |
| 19:24.11 | steev | "is that out of shadowmoon valley?" |
| 19:24.18 | Fisker- | nothing is too expensive for me |
| 19:24.22 | steev | uh, no, its near black temple |
| 19:24.34 | steev | "oh, im stuck here, i can't fly to shat or anything" |
| 19:24.40 | Zenom | is the "icon" on my bar for stormstrike an icon or a texture? or both? |
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| 19:24.40 | steev | run out? |
| 19:24.46 | steev | "i could, but that takes too long" |
| 19:25.04 | steev | guess you could just sit there then |
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| 19:28.58 | Nimbal | Zenom, depends on what you mean by "icon on my bar". What you have in your bar is a button that has a texture object (not a texture, mind you!). If you want to change the appearance, you have to get ahold of that texture object and call SetTexture("Interface\Icons\SomeIcon") on it |
| 19:29.15 | Gnarfoz | ~seen robotusch |
| 19:29.25 | purl | robotusch is currently on #wowhead. Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 6m 14s, last said: 'oh look, world server down ;('. |
| 19:29.25 | Zenom | ya im trying to figure out how to do that with bt4 |
| 19:29.28 | Zenom | just want to either change the icon or opacity |
| 19:29.41 | Zenom | and im not sure if I just edit the global texture or if there is something specific in bt4 i need to change |
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| 19:32.31 | Nimbal | Do you just want to have another icon for a specific spell or something... "bigger"? |
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| 19:33.59 | Fisker- | Ackis |
| 19:34.01 | Fisker- | i will stop you |
| 19:34.27 | Gnarfoz | he's already sitting in a corner, crying |
| 19:34.56 | Ackis | wat? |
| 19:35.02 | Ackis | I'm fapping in the corner?!? |
| 19:35.10 | Zenom | Nimbal: the idea behind this learning experience was the following.... |
| 19:35.14 | Fisker- | no crying |
| 19:35.28 | Zenom | When WF was on internal cooldown I would either change opacity of the button or change the icon all together. |
| 19:35.34 | Zenom | So i knew it was within the WF cooldown |
| 19:35.54 | Zenom | I got the WF checks fworking, i just now need to figure out how to "modify" said "icon" |
| 19:36.02 | Ellipsis | you don't want to modify the icon |
| 19:36.05 | Ellipsis | you want to modify the button |
| 19:36.41 | Fisker- | modifies Ellipsis' buttons |
| 19:36.58 | Ellipsis | be gentle Fisker-, they're delicate |
| 19:37.00 | Zenom | now i see code on wowwiki for looping through 1-120 of the buttons |
| 19:37.10 | Zenom | are those the buttons I would be modifying? |
| 19:37.19 | Zenom | or do you think it is something with BT4 I need to grab? |
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| 19:37.23 | Ellipsis | bartender might have some API for grabbing specific buttons |
| 19:37.30 | Ellipsis | if so, that's the most reliable way to do it |
| 19:37.37 | nevcairiel | what now? |
| 19:37.49 | Zenom | nevcairiel: the jist is this |
| 19:38.03 | Zenom | i want to when WF is on cooldown , modify the color of the stormstrike button or something |
| 19:38.29 | Zenom | so that I know its in cooldown, not disable it or anything just maybe change the color to green overlay instead of red, or change the texture/icon of it |
| 19:38.49 | Zenom | but i am super new to lua and this just happened to be my start into this world of programming |
| 19:39.27 | nevcairiel | hm thats not as easy as it sounds |
| 19:39.37 | nevcairiel | assuming you dont use any magic on your buttons to change their page |
| 19:39.53 | nevcairiel | you would still have to iterate over all buttons and find your windfury and stormstrike buttons |
| 19:39.53 | Zenom | nope i don't |
| 19:40.16 | Zenom | ok and is that something internal to bt4 or is that just like the code on wowwiki to loop through them? |
| 19:40.21 | nevcairiel | or rather, only Stormstrike |
| 19:40.31 | Zenom | ie., action slots 1-120 |
| 19:40.39 | nevcairiel | you need to find the action slot |
| 19:40.45 | nevcairiel | the bartender buttons are the same id |
| 19:40.49 | nevcairiel | BT4Button<id> |
| 19:40.55 | Fisker- | no spore yet :( |
| 19:40.58 | Fisker- | blargh i'm ded |
| 19:40.59 | Fisker- | bai |
| 19:41.04 | Zenom | ok |
| 19:41.08 | nevcairiel | so if your stormstrike is on action id 20, you would have to modify BT4Button20 |
| 19:41.10 | nevcairiel | however |
| 19:41.16 | nevcairiel | modifying the color is not easy |
| 19:41.31 | nevcairiel | You would have to hook the UpdateUsable or so |
| 19:42.02 | nevcairiel | otherwise it'll reset the color because it uses it for range display |
| 19:42.04 | Zenom | is it easier to set the border color or anything? |
| 19:42.24 | nevcairiel | you could set the border, but not sure how visible it is |
| 19:42.58 | Zenom | or even put a big red X over the icon lol |
| 19:43.08 | Zenom | just something for me to know its on c/d |
| 19:43.17 | Zenom | again its more of a learning thing right now |
| 19:44.21 | Carancu | it's not pretty but you could create a frame of your own and place it over the button in question, and use a semitransparent texture, just show your frame when it is on cooldown and hide it when not. |
| 19:45.18 | Nimbal | Have a look at the file Bartender3/buttonPrototypes/ActionButton.lua, specifically the Create method. There are some SetXYZTexture methods there. Try playing with these to find out what they do, appearance wise |
| 19:45.42 | Zenom | ya i was looking at Button.lua I think but will check there too |
| 19:45.47 | Nimbal | err... Bartender4 I mean |
| 19:45.56 | Zenom | trying to get the code to work for finding the action id right now |
| 19:46.52 | Zenom | is there an addon that allows me to paste lua code into a "window" in game and have it return values without reloading the ui each time? |
| 19:47.12 | Gnarfoz | LuaSlinger? |
| 19:47.41 | nevcairiel | Zenom: WoWLua of WoWInterface |
| 19:47.44 | Obelixprime | how do you enable fog of war on cartographer? |
| 19:48.09 | Obelixprime | got it |
| 19:59.59 | Funkeh` | What's a good online store for belgium |
| 20:00.20 | Funkeh` | amazon.be fails at existance |
| 20:00.36 | Ellipsis | gasps at Funkeh`s language |
| 20:01.03 | Funkeh` | Oo |
| 20:01.06 | Nimbal | It looks french! Burn it! |
| 20:01.28 | Nimbal | (I mean the word, not the Frenchmen, no offense) |
| 20:01.52 | Megalon | it's french, lynch it! |
| 20:05.45 | Fisker- | surprises Funkeh` |
| 20:06.25 | Ellipsis | with what, I wonder |
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| 20:07.06 | Megalon | suicide? |
| 20:07.20 | Ellipsis | if only |
| 20:07.34 | Megalon | or by saying nothing, that would probably suprise from fisker :P |
| 20:07.45 | Fisker- | mind controls Ellipsis |
| 20:07.56 | Ellipsis | finds herself running off a cliff |
| 20:08.04 | Fisker- | http://www.qualsiasi.net/images/articles/CptObvious_1_original.jpg |
| 20:08.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: btw: none of the Hide on Aura options work in BT4 :X |
| 20:08.24 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 20:08.27 | nevcairiel | paladin shit |
| 20:08.30 | nevcairiel | yeah thats possible =P |
| 20:08.32 | nevcairiel | i dont have a pally |
| 20:08.41 | Gnarfoz | just remove it, then |
| 20:08.41 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 20:08.51 | Gnarfoz | I don't care either, but blizz broke my pally, so I'm bored |
| 20:09.06 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: any idea why replacing SetItemRef doesn't do the same as your fix to prat does? :X |
| 20:09.08 | nevcairiel | yeah might add a class check |
| 20:09.12 | nevcairiel | it only works for real stances |
| 20:10.16 | Fisker- | nevcairiel is the bestest |
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| 20:15.33 | Gnarfoz | this drives me nuts :X |
| 20:18.03 | Funkeh` | found one |
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| 20:19.04 | Ellipsis | wheeeeee |
| 20:19.08 | Ellipsis | action bars done \o/ |
| 20:19.21 | Ellipsis | 48 lines of code ^-^ |
| 20:19.24 | Gnarfoz | \o\ |
| 20:19.32 | Gnarfoz | now fix mah pally :X |
| 20:19.42 | Ellipsis | deletes Gnarfoz's pally |
| 20:19.42 | Gnarfoz | I want to unlearn spells :X |
| 20:19.44 | Ellipsis | fix't! |
| 20:19.58 | Gnarfoz | I do have one character copy left... xD |
| 20:20.06 | Fisker- | deletes Ellipsis |
| 20:20.08 | Gnarfoz | but I can't be arsed to do 70-75 again |
| 20:20.10 | raegx | >_< at work i use alot of pl/sql and python. Switching back and forth from that to lua is a facepalm every few times i /rl |
| 20:20.29 | Gnarfoz | just because blizz broke mah pally |
| 20:20.40 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how this hasn't happened to anyone else ;X |
| 20:21.07 | Fisker- | wat? |
| 20:21.22 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm sure they're pretty interested to investigate. Character corruption is a pretty big issue |
| 20:21.56 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: well, besides reporting a bug, nothing is available to me :X |
| 20:22.06 | VonhintenHOME` | appeal? |
| 20:22.17 | Gnarfoz | appeal? to whom ;D |
| 20:22.34 | Gnarfoz | it's on EU beta, ask Fisker- for further details about my "options" :p |
| 20:22.44 | Daemona | hey Tekkub how far does Tourguide lead on the beta at the moment? |
| 20:23.07 | Fisker- | wat is rong Gnarfoz ? |
| 20:23.11 | VonhintenHOME` | well, I dunno about EU, and I don't know about your options on labor day weekend, but I would think there's GM's on Beta servers for precisely this type of thing |
| 20:23.18 | Gnarfoz | labor day is may 1st |
| 20:23.29 | Fisker- | not for US fool! |
| 20:23.50 | Gnarfoz | and no, GMs are "for stuck characters and harassment reports" only :X |
| 20:24.10 | CIA-25 | 03ColdLogic * r81240 10COLDCID/ (COLDCID.lua COLDCID.xml): |
| 20:24.10 | CIA-25 | COLDCID: |
| 20:24.10 | CIA-25 | -Locked minimap button to minimap |
| 20:24.10 | CIA-25 | -Created interface for repositioning button |
| 20:24.10 | CIA-25 | -Movement of main frame is through title bar now |
| 20:24.13 | Fisker- | WAT DA FUK IS UR PROB? |
| 20:24.13 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd say you're pretty stuck |
| 20:24.14 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 20:24.22 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: specced holy, yet? |
| 20:24.40 | Fisker- | obviously |
| 20:24.42 | Gnarfoz | does Beacon of Light work for you, or Illumination, or Judgements of the Pure? |
| 20:24.58 | Fisker- | bacon of light seems to work |
| 20:25.01 | Fisker- | illumination as well |
| 20:25.03 | Gnarfoz | none of em work for me, and Beacon of Light is even weirder: I get 5 spells of the name |
| 20:25.05 | Ellipsis | mmm, bacon |
| 20:25.07 | Fisker- | dunno about judgements of the pure |
| 20:25.13 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 20:25.14 | Fisker- | nice |
| 20:25.23 | Fisker- | wasn't specced beacon of light previously though |
| 20:25.23 | Gnarfoz | only one of them has "Level 1" attached and is "correct" |
| 20:25.34 | Gnarfoz | i.e. mana cost, instant cast |
| 20:25.52 | Gnarfoz | one other is 1.5sec cast + mana cost (like it was before the latest change, I think) |
| 20:26.06 | Gnarfoz | the instant one gives whoever I cast it tat: the beacon buff and the beacon aura |
| 20:26.10 | Gnarfoz | but no one else gets the aura |
| 20:26.26 | Gnarfoz | the non-instant one buffs whoever I cast it at: just the aura (o_O) |
| 20:26.30 | CIA-25 | 03ColdLogic * r81241 10COLDCID/COLDCID.xml: |
| 20:26.30 | CIA-25 | COLDCID: |
| 20:26.31 | CIA-25 | -Removed tooltip display of COLDCID title bar |
| 20:26.50 | Gnarfoz | and the other 3 spells I get cost no mana, don't have GCD (i.e. spammable) and heal whoever I last cast the instant cast beacon spell at for 1 |
| 20:26.50 | Fisker- | well it's reworked now |
| 20:26.56 | Fisker- | so you have to cast it on a target |
| 20:26.58 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 20:27.02 | CIA-25 | 03ColdLogic * r81242 10COLDCID/COLDCID.toc: |
| 20:27.02 | CIA-25 | COLDCID: |
| 20:27.02 | CIA-25 | -Updated TOC |
| 20:27.08 | Gnarfoz | this is not about "did you understand how beacon works" :P |
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| 20:27.16 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 20:27.17 | Gnarfoz | obviously I cast it at someone |
| 20:27.22 | Fisker- | anyways open a ticket |
| 20:27.26 | Fisker- | OPEN A TICKET |
| 20:27.27 | Gnarfoz | did. waited 5 horus |
| 20:27.28 | Fisker- | and rawr |
| 20:27.33 | Fisker- | don't wait for horus |
| 20:27.36 | Fisker- | he is a false god |
| 20:27.43 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 20:27.44 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, good advice |
| 20:28.00 | VonhintenHOME` | that motherfucker still owes me 5 bucks |
| 20:28.01 | Gnarfoz | went offline, got a mail 10 minutes later "sorry, only for harassment and stuck characters, YHBT, HAND" |
| 20:28.24 | Fisker- | keep spamming until they ban you |
| 20:28.31 | Gnarfoz | that's gonna help :p |
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| 20:28.36 | Gnarfoz | I don't know why illumination doesn't work for me, and even worse: |
| 20:28.37 | Ellipsis | then complain about discrimination |
| 20:28.42 | Gnarfoz | I can't "undo" the Beacon stuff |
| 20:28.58 | Gnarfoz | because since... 2.4? you learn all spells you ever knew before when retalenting |
| 20:28.58 | Ellipsis | if you get enough attention, *some* of it will come from someone with a clue who realizes they need to figure out how they broke a character |
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| 20:29.28 | Gnarfoz | Ellipsis: wishful thinking :X "blizz doesn't care about EU pt 2" |
| 20:29.28 | Zenom | nevcairiel: how do i get the object for a particular BT4 button if i have the actionid etc? |
| 20:29.38 | Zenom | sorry action slot |
| 20:29.58 | Fisker- | indeed Gnarfoz |
| 20:30.12 | Fisker- | It's funny |
| 20:30.18 | VonhintenHOME` | You ask Ellipsis, and she determines if you're worthy to possess such action button object |
| 20:30.21 | Fisker- | Some US devs are commenting on some suggestions |
| 20:30.32 | Fisker- | even though they themselves have said they do not comment on suggestions due to legal issues |
| 20:30.34 | Fisker- | LOLPWNT |
| 20:30.37 | Ellipsis | YOU ARE NOT PREPARED to modify that button |
| 20:30.58 | VonhintenHOME` | Sorry Zenom, SOL |
| 20:31.04 | Ellipsis | :3 |
| 20:31.08 | CIA-25 | squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * rb424f1a 10/ Squeenix.lua : That's been fixed in Wrath |
| 20:31.12 | Zenom | lol |
| 20:31.20 | Fisker- | lets do this Gnarfoz |
| 20:31.28 | Ellipsis | Tekkub: please tell me you're talking about the stupid leak there? |
| 20:31.29 | Fisker- | atleast they have moderation this time around |
| 20:31.30 | CIA-25 | squeenix: 03Tekkub 07master * rb380769 10/ Squeenix.lua : Load Blizzard_TimeManager when needed |
| 20:31.34 | Tekkub | yes |
| 20:31.39 | Ellipsis | yay :D |
| 20:31.44 | Fisker- | it was hilarious in the TBC beta with a "FUCK YOU BLIZZARD"-topic staying for a couple of weeks |
| 20:31.51 | Tekkub | though there's still another leak somewhere in blue's code |
| 20:31.57 | Ellipsis | what else is new |
| 20:32.00 | cladhaire | !ap 1364 |
| 20:32.20 | Fisker- | your druid should feel bad |
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| 20:32.58 | Fisker- | People who don't care about EU people: |
| 20:33.02 | Fisker- | BL_ZZARD |
| 20:33.08 | Fisker- | Wanna solve Gnarfoz? |
| 20:33.14 | Gnarfoz | sure. |
| 20:33.35 | Gnarfoz | I'll just use my n52 and auto-spam the 3 instant cast, no mana cost, no gcd Beacon Spells. |
| 20:33.38 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 20:33.48 | Gnarfoz | dunno if I get disconnected or I crash the server :X |
| 20:34.13 | Fisker- | disconnected probably |
| 20:34.25 | Ellipsis | banned for hax |
| 20:34.29 | Fisker- | are you horde? |
| 20:34.33 | Gnarfoz | ally, fisker :X |
| 20:34.43 | Gnarfoz | and you know that, too! :p |
| 20:34.49 | Fisker- | i hate you |
| 20:34.57 | Gnarfoz | obviously. |
| 20:35.41 | Gnarfoz | *saves ticket text for re-use* |
| 20:36.23 | Fisker- | judgements of the pure doesn't work though |
| 20:37.15 | Fisker- | someone should post on US for you |
| 20:37.21 | Fisker- | along with blizzard doesn't care about eu etc. |
| 20:37.23 | Gnarfoz | heh. |
| 20:37.24 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 20:37.40 | Gnarfoz | servers are right next to each other anyway |
| 20:37.48 | Fisker- | nah |
| 20:37.56 | Gnarfoz | I don't even get how they have EU GMs on this realm |
| 20:37.58 | Fisker- | US beta servers are in a datacenter |
| 20:38.05 | Gnarfoz | right, ours is under some bridge. |
| 20:38.09 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 20:38.25 | Gnarfoz | with a weak 11b wlan link |
| 20:38.31 | *** part/#wowace davidcramer (n=davidcra@CPE-76-84-24-16.neb.res.rr.com) |
| 20:38.47 | Fisker- | and someone is having sex with it |
| 20:39.12 | sb | sex with 11b wlan link? |
| 20:39.18 | sb | or with eu servers? |
| 20:40.00 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 20:40.01 | Gnarfoz | both. |
| 20:40.03 | Gnarfoz | who cares |
| 20:40.04 | Fisker- | i could train 4 beacon of light spells |
| 20:40.14 | Gnarfoz | wanna break your char? |
| 20:40.15 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:40.24 | Gnarfoz | we could whine about it together! |
| 20:40.54 | Gnarfoz | gahahaha |
| 20:40.55 | Fisker- | didn't break anything |
| 20:41.00 | sb | Gnarfoz: i care actually, because i cant connect to those f$*)#( blizzard servers, my isp screwed some routes... routing loop... and my raid is wiping on trash-bosses (brutallus) and i have to listen to them (teamspeak) |
| 20:41.05 | Fisker- | now i just have a cast time on the beacon of light :( |
| 20:41.09 | sb | this is soooo bad |
| 20:41.16 | Gnarfoz | sb: hah, wtf @ your ISP |
| 20:41.28 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: check 'show all spells' in your spellbook :p |
| 20:41.52 | Fisker- | LOL |
| 20:42.01 | Fisker- | they heal me for 1 |
| 20:42.17 | Gnarfoz | some dude put stacks of 5 of many glyphs on the AH on EU beta alliance for 9.99.99 each... while I admire his efforts, I'm buying them all and re-listing them for 100g, like the others that are on the AH. |
| 20:42.18 | Fisker- | this is too awesome |
| 20:42.33 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: yeah, you can force-proc your procs with the 3 internal spells |
| 20:43.02 | Fisker- | can you use spell ids for macros? |
| 20:43.40 | Gnarfoz | think so. |
| 20:43.48 | Gnarfoz | or wait, hmm |
| 20:43.51 | Gnarfoz | itemids work |
| 20:44.18 | Fisker- | it doesn't work with beacon of light since it takes the one with a cast time |
| 20:44.33 | sb | Gnarfoz: not funny... :) its like i can 'feel' them wiping... gnnl :o |
| 20:45.01 | Fisker- | can you still make macros that clicks an actionbutton? |
| 20:45.16 | Gnarfoz | yup |
| 20:45.22 | Fisker- | giev |
| 20:45.26 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.26 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 20:45.47 | Gnarfoz | [22:44:26][2. Trade] [Hooloovoo]: I see your Dawnstone and raise you 1 [Smooth Sun Crystal] |
| 20:45.50 | Gnarfoz | [22:44:48][2. Trade] [AndorÃa]: GG |
| 20:45.53 | Gnarfoz | [22:45:04][2. Trade] [Salaana]: oh snap |
| 20:45.57 | Gnarfoz | oh snap |
| 20:46.10 | Gnarfoz | missed the first line :X |
| 20:46.24 | Gnarfoz | someone wanted to trade an epic +10 crit rating gem for a port to Dalaran |
| 20:47.18 | Gnarfoz | so Fisker- |
| 20:47.34 | Gnarfoz | you have the 5 spells, and you're telling me all of the above mentioned stuff still works for you? :X |
| 20:47.44 | Gnarfoz | relog or something? |
| 20:47.51 | Gnarfoz | your character should break out of sympathy! |
| 20:48.38 | Gnarfoz | oh shi- the guy whose glyphs I was buying out just said in trade "new glyphs on the AH, buy em and try em out! :D" |
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| 20:50.46 | Fisker- | btw Gnarfoz |
| 20:50.48 | Fisker- | just got kicked |
| 20:50.54 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 20:51.16 | Gnarfoz | btw, I got a Glyph of BoK |
| 20:51.27 | Gnarfoz | and now a Glyph of FoL |
| 20:51.31 | Gnarfoz | just need the HL one |
| 20:51.35 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:51.55 | VonhintenHOME` | what do they do? |
| 20:51.58 | Zenom | how do I get the object for a button in bartender 4 (or in general if its not specific), if I know the action bar name ie., BT4Button2 |
| 20:52.18 | Fisker- | holy shit |
| 20:52.28 | Fisker- | haha |
| 20:52.44 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: FoL reduces FoL healing by 50% but adds a 200% 15sec HoT |
| 20:53.00 | VonhintenHOME` | oh what the shit |
| 20:53.01 | Ellipsis | lolregrowth? |
| 20:53.10 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: HL makes HL a splash heal :D 10% of healed amount to up to 5 people in a 10y radius of the target you healed |
| 20:53.27 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: BoK just makes BoK also give +3% AP |
| 20:53.33 | VonhintenHOME` | omgah |
| 20:54.12 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: how'd you get yourself kicked? |
| 20:55.00 | Fisker- | spamming the macro |
| 20:55.02 | Fisker- | i just froze the client by adding a 4th macro |
| 20:55.17 | Fisker- | http://i35.tinypic.com/fenoch.jpg <- :D |
| 20:56.24 | Ellipsis | Fisker-: tooltip needs less default settings. |
| 20:56.39 | CIA-25 | rawr: 03Tekkub 07master * rc142802 10/ : CRLF |
| 20:56.43 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz did you figure it out |
| 20:56.57 | VonhintenHOME` | seriously, that tooltip has information overload going on |
| 20:57.01 | CIA-25 | rawr: 03Tekkub 07master * re60d175 10/ Rawr.lua : Add wrath compat |
| 20:57.07 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: nope, gave up :) |
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| 20:57.22 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz lol - man i need some soda or something |
| 20:57.23 | CIA-25 | rawr: 03Tekkub 07master * rfaa4a50 10/ Rawr.lua : Fix for BE/Draenei roars, not that they sound that great though... |
| 20:57.37 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: what's the content of the macros? oO |
| 20:57.53 | CIA-25 | rawr: 03Tekkub 07master * r9efafc7 10/ (Dongle.lua Rawr.lua Rawr.toc): De-dongle |
| 20:58.11 | Ellipsis | de-dongle? that sounds painful o.O |
| 20:58.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I've got some weird stuff for you |
| 20:58.21 | fewyn | sigh |
| 20:58.24 | Ackis | de-dongles Ellipsis |
| 20:58.28 | fewyn | beta is too laggy to level my hunter now |
| 20:58.32 | Ellipsis | I has no dongle! |
| 20:58.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: an empty actionbutton keeps casting Seal of Light, regardless of if I put another spell there, unbind the key from it, or whatever :X |
| 20:59.23 | nevcairiel | do you use auto-assist? |
| 20:59.42 | nevcairiel | if not, i blame blizzard |
| 21:00.11 | nevcairiel | if yes, i will recode that anyway |
| 21:00.34 | nevcairiel | so either way, /me goes back to Mu'ru |
| 21:01.10 | fewyn | mu'ru is a pansy |
| 21:01.14 | fewyn | kill it already |
| 21:01.38 | Zenom | nevcairiel: got a quick sec? |
| 21:03.02 | nevcairiel | not really, still wiping on muru |
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| 21:03.26 | fewyn | the windchime needs to die right nevcairiel? |
| 21:03.51 | Gnarfoz | M'uru, btw |
| 21:04.01 | Gnarfoz | also, auto-assist? |
| 21:04.05 | fewyn | WINDCHIME! |
| 21:04.37 | Fisker- | i wonder if i get banned Gnarfoz |
| 21:04.50 | Gnarfoz | for what, spamming your macros? :D |
| 21:05.05 | Chazowit | could a druid with 1400 +heal do za or ssc? |
| 21:05.32 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt take him =P |
| 21:06.13 | VonhintenHOME` | a druid with 1400 healing could do ZA with a second healer that's like 2200 healing, provided there's a 3rd off healer when needed |
| 21:06.16 | VonhintenHOME` | SSC, probably |
| 21:07.15 | VonhintenHOME` | should probably be in kara though |
| 21:10.07 | Fisker- | everybody lags >:3 |
| 21:12.19 | Ellipsis | lags all over Fisker- |
| 21:13.16 | VonhintenHOME` | Everrrrybody laaags, sooooome times |
| 21:17.27 | thul | ttp://www3.kcn.ne.jp/~lovebuzz/anne_hathaway/anne_hathaway002.jpg <- that outfit must be photoshopped |
| 21:18.00 | VonhintenHOME` | L2PostClickableURLs |
| 21:18.17 | erikh | omg tits |
| 21:18.19 | Fisker- | i fap\d |
| 21:18.23 | Fisker- | i fap'd* |
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| 21:19.20 | VonhintenHOME` | doesn't look photoshopped to me. nice tits (though the right nip is a bit higher than the left) |
| 21:19.34 | Fisker- | what say you Ellipsis ? |
| 21:19.35 | NivFreak | clearly I joined too late |
| 21:19.45 | VonhintenHOME` | She's got one hell of a nose on her though] |
| 21:19.54 | VonhintenHOME` | you could snort all kinds of coke with that honker |
| 21:21.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: what did you mean by auto-assist? |
| 21:21.24 | nevcairiel | there is a option in the config :P |
| 21:21.36 | nevcairiel | on the stance page |
| 21:21.55 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 21:21.58 | Gnarfoz | yes, that's enabled |
| 21:22.06 | nevcairiel | disable, try again |
| 21:22.35 | Gnarfoz | this... changes stuff |
| 21:22.41 | Gnarfoz | i.e. doesn't behave like before anymore |
| 21:22.49 | Gnarfoz | but switching it back on doesn't revert to brokenness, either? |
| 21:24.18 | Zenom | grrr learning this is frustrating lol |
| 21:25.52 | Zenom | wouldn't think it would be tough to just highlight/color a button lol |
| 21:26.26 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz or not |
| 21:26.28 | Fisker- | i'll kill you |
| 21:26.44 | Fisker- | hey Gnarfoz |
| 21:26.55 | Fisker- | People who annoy you: |
| 21:27.01 | Fisker- | BL_ZZARD |
| 21:27.09 | Fisker- | want to solve? >:3 |
| 21:27.52 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: well switching it back on re-configures the button, but as i said, i'll rewrite that part |
| 21:28.31 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: EH |
| 21:28.40 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: yay disconnected myself :p |
| 21:28.50 | Gnarfoz | can I disconnect other ppl with it? :X |
| 21:28.56 | Gnarfoz | that'd be evul |
| 21:29.43 | Zenom | if i want to edit BTButton2 do i just create another frame with that name? Or is there a way to load it? |
| 21:29.59 | Fisker- | i think so Gnarfoz |
| 21:30.11 | Nimbal | Zenom, getglobal("BTButton2") |
| 21:30.33 | Zenom | let me try it |
| 21:32.45 | Zenom | in python there is dir(object) which spits out methods that belong to that object, is there anything lik ethat with lua? |
| 21:35.53 | VonhintenHOME` | you can \dump the object |
| 21:36.03 | VonhintenHOME` | won't filter by just method, but you can see them |
| 21:36.45 | VonhintenHOME` | err, /dump |
| 21:36.47 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: have you seen the feature request in the same google code ticket? :P |
| 21:36.48 | VonhintenHOME` | wrong slash |
| 21:40.35 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/why_so_serious.jpg |
| 21:41.01 | Fisker- | ah |
| 21:41.06 | Fisker- | thought yours healed for more than 1 |
| 21:41.34 | Gnarfoz | no :X |
| 21:41.44 | Fisker- | why so draenei |
| 21:41.48 | Fisker- | and whats with your shitty mana pool? |
| 21:41.48 | Gnarfoz | because. |
| 21:42.15 | Gnarfoz | you can probably *see* how kara his gear is? :p |
| 21:42.16 | VonhintenHOME` | so is Darkmoon Card: Crusade pretty good for a shaman? |
| 21:42.19 | VonhintenHOME` | enhancement |
| 21:42.57 | Fisker- | you fail Gnarfoz |
| 21:43.21 | Gnarfoz | pff :p it's not my main ;0 |
| 21:43.22 | Fisker- | gonna sleep |
| 21:43.25 | Fisker- | >:3 rawr etc. |
| 21:43.57 | steev | fuck you activesync |
| 21:44.22 | Fisker- | sleep tiems |
| 21:45.05 | steev | WORLD SERVER GO DOWN |
| 21:45.26 | steev | i specced prot for this :( |
| 21:48.25 | CIA-25 | 03morgalm * r81243 10MorgDKP/ (5 files): |
| 21:48.25 | CIA-25 | MorgDKP: |
| 21:48.25 | CIA-25 | - More deDE fixes and nailed a hiding bug |
| 22:00.01 | Nimbal | Does anyone know what the addon is, that colours the buff / debuff icons grey in this screenshot: http://img161.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50903_raidshot_122_779lo.jpg |
| 22:00.18 | Nimbal | The icons at the target / player unit frames |
| 22:03.01 | Throngy | you can do something like that with Smarty on the target, not on the player though |
| 22:06.58 | Zenom | i know satrina buff frames works with cycircled |
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| 22:07.04 | Zenom | to change the way the buffs look |
| 22:07.07 | Zenom | it might be that |
| 22:08.06 | Zenom | oh nvm on the unitframes |
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| 22:20.54 | Fisker- | 48 hours Gnarfoz |
| 22:21.16 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 22:26.15 | raegx | does tremor totem break a priests mc? |
| 22:26.21 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81244 10Bartender4/ (ActionBarStates.lua ActionButton.lua): Bartender4: rewrite auto-assist feature using new secure state driver rather then ugly macrotext |
| 22:27.14 | CIA-25 | 03nevcairiel 07WotlK * r81245 10Bartender4/ActionButton.lua: Bartender4: oops forgot one |
| 22:28.27 | nevcairiel | go beta test for me Gnarfoz =P |
| 22:28.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: sure |
| 22:28.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: also, this means no right-click self-casting, right? :\ |
| 22:29.07 | Gnarfoz | it's somewhat weird |
| 22:29.07 | nevcairiel | wasnt right-click selfcasting broken before too? |
| 22:29.14 | nevcairiel | i was meaning to fix that |
| 22:29.17 | nevcairiel | maybe tomorrow |
| 22:29.29 | Aens|Superiority | is Antiarc around or anyone who did the values on threat? |
| 22:29.40 | Aens|Superiority | threat/omen |
| 22:29.55 | Antiarc | Yo |
| 22:30.33 | Aens|Superiority | Antiarc: just wondering where you get your numbers. I got pointed to wowwiki.com/threat |
| 22:30.58 | Aens|Superiority | and omen's numbers dont match up. This is just some stupid arguement that omen isn't matching up to whats in an ej thread. |
| 22:31.13 | Antiarc | A combo of EJ, common knowledge, testing, and KTM |
| 22:31.36 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt put too much faith into the wowwiki page |
| 22:31.55 | nevcairiel | its probably out of date like nothing else |
| 22:32.05 | Aens|Superiority | The source of the arguement is concerning devastate. The EJ prot warrior page copy pastes devastate as |
| 22:32.07 | Fisker- | 48 hours Gnarfoz |
| 22:32.13 | Aens|Superiority | +106 + [14 * Sunder Count] (rough formula) |
| 22:32.13 | Aens|Superiority | Also applies Sunder Armor threat when increasing the debuff stack |
| 22:32.21 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: until you die? :X |
| 22:32.30 | Fisker- | no |
| 22:32.46 | Aens|Superiority | the second part of the statement is the arguement |
| 22:33.10 | Aens|Superiority | Sunder's threat also being added on per devastate |
| 22:33.23 | Aens|Superiority | from devastate 1 to devastate 6. |
| 22:33.26 | Aens|Superiority | err, 5 |
| 22:33.26 | Fisker- | 48 hours Gnarfoz |
| 22:33.28 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 22:33.43 | CIA-25 | 03Cybersea * r81246 10BigWigs/BlackTemple/Illidan.lua: BigWigs: fix/update ruRU |
| 22:33.44 | Aens|Superiority | and omen was pretty inconclusive with the 2 tests they did. |
| 22:33.45 | Antiarc | I'd tested it out at one point, and the sunder threat wasn't added once it was at 5 |
| 22:33.57 | Aens|Superiority | but it was on devastate 1 to 5? |
| 22:34.02 | Antiarc | yeah |
| 22:34.45 | Antiarc | In fact, I remember this particular one because it meant that non-tanking prot warriors could DPS relatively safely, because they wouldn't be generating massive threat per devastate |
| 22:36.48 | Antiarc | It should be pretty easy to test out |
| 22:36.59 | Antiarc | Get a prot warrior to devastate a mob 6x, and add up his white damage |
| 22:37.10 | Antiarc | Have a 1.0-modifier character DPS until they pull aggro |
| 22:37.42 | Antiarc | That gives you the prot war's threat level, and you can determine which model fits |
| 22:37.58 | Aens|Superiority | ok |
| 22:38.13 | Antiarc | something like a mage would work best |
| 22:38.20 | Antiarc | Just have them melee so their delta between swings is low |
| 22:38.42 | Antiarc | Which will give you a pretty granular value once aggro is pulled |
| 22:39.02 | Aens|Superiority | ok, thanks! |
| 22:39.11 | Aens|Superiority | internet arguements, everyone looses |
| 22:40.38 | Fisker- | 38 hours Gnarfoz |
| 22:40.40 | Fisker- | 48* |
| 22:40.50 | Gnarfoz | what the fuck, Fisker- |
| 22:41.20 | Fisker- | what are you going to do about it? |
| 22:42.55 | Gnarfoz | 'bout what. |
| 22:43.04 | Gnarfoz | blizz hates eu. |
| 22:43.05 | CIA-25 | 03elsia * r81247 10Recount/ (Tracker.lua deletion.lua): |
| 22:43.05 | CIA-25 | Recount: |
| 22:43.05 | CIA-25 | - Fixed bug which prevented the deletion code for instance entry to work (thanks to Bonta-kun) |
| 22:43.05 | CIA-25 | - Added safeguard when for some reason CCs are removed from non-existing victims. |
| 22:45.35 | Fisker- | indeed Gnarfoz |
| 22:45.38 | Fisker- | i should sleep |
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| 22:47.52 | Fisker- | i'm sowwy Gnarfoz |
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| 23:19.12 | CIA-25 | 03kurax * r81250 10AckisRecipeList/Locals/ (ARLLocals-enUS.lua ARLLocals-zhCN.lua): |
| 23:19.12 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:19.13 | CIA-25 | - zhCN locale update |
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| 23:33.47 | steev | ugh. |
| 23:35.14 | vithos | man survival on beta is fun |
| 23:43.55 | Aeyan | Meh, I hates survival hunters and ret pallys forever |
| 23:44.06 | steev | u sucks |
| 23:47.43 | steev | clad|sleep: btw, r165 fixes that time issue for me, so thank you |
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