| 00:00.17 | NivFreak | yea, he was |
| 00:00.21 | NivFreak | bigger than I was |
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| 00:06.46 | Obelixprime | does chinchilla move the quest tracking frame |
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| 00:12.46 | Xinhuan | ~seen elsia |
| 00:12.47 | purl | elsia <i=elsiarow@p57A258E8.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 8h 8m 12s ago, saying: 'heya'. |
| 00:12.58 | Gnarfoz | Obelixprime: if you want it to |
| 00:13.19 | Xinhuan | Obelixprime: it can |
| 00:14.06 | kokolores | shammies keep their own wf proc in wotlk? |
| 00:14.15 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 00:14.39 | Obelixprime | is it within the menu? or do i have to use the command line? |
| 00:14.48 | kokolores | i saw in that that wotlk addon info a few lines above Changed width of SS to be full frame width and adjusted Shock & WFProc to proportional widths |
| 00:15.14 | kokolores | and since wf is gona be haste i wondered whether shammies their wf |
| 00:15.17 | Xinhuan | windfury is changed to +20% atk speed |
| 00:15.20 | kokolores | *keep |
| 00:15.34 | kokolores | yes but that addon talks about a wf proc |
| 00:15.44 | kokolores | its perma i assume, like an aura |
| 00:15.53 | kokolores | as long as in range and its up |
| 00:15.54 | Xinhuan | i dont' really know how wf works in wotlk, but it could be a +atk speed buff on proc |
| 00:15.58 | kokolores | not a proc |
| 00:16.17 | kokolores | ah nm, not so important anyways |
| 00:16.41 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: that's just the totem, or am I mistaken |
| 00:16.46 | kokolores | guess it was just called wf proc there, doesnt matter really |
| 00:16.54 | smcn | windfury WEAPON is exactly the same, windfury TOTEM is a haste buff |
| 00:17.06 | kokolores | ah k, thx |
| 00:17.06 | smcn | honestly they should change the name of the totem.. everyone mixes it up |
| 00:17.12 | kokolores | pretty op for shammies :p |
| 00:18.20 | smcn | wotlk.wowhead.com is generally up to date wrt new items and abilities/talents by the way, maybe a build or two behind |
| 00:18.55 | kokolores | what i dont get... |
| 00:19.09 | kokolores | they release that pre-expansion patch |
| 00:19.33 | kokolores | then might and battle shout wont stack, hunter buffs will be self only |
| 00:19.50 | kokolores | what are melee supposed to do then until wotlk hits? |
| 00:20.06 | Xinhuan | oh noes, buff not stacking, its not the end of the world |
| 00:20.20 | Groktar | talents should make up a good portion of it |
| 00:20.24 | NivFreak | you have much bigger things to worry about |
| 00:20.26 | NivFreak | when that patch hits |
| 00:20.30 | kokolores | well, battle shout and survial hunter is 600-700 ap for a melee |
| 00:20.35 | NivFreak | but then again, it'll probably be ~30days before xpac |
| 00:20.43 | Xinhuan | you haven't seen some of the new melee talents right? |
| 00:20.44 | kokolores | drop then from 2.3 to 1800 on brutallus? |
| 00:21.06 | Groktar | can do brut just fine w/o surv hunter buffs |
| 00:21.09 | Diao | Xinhuan: classes have started now so i usually don't get home til either now or 2 hours later on weekdays :p |
| 00:21.19 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 00:21.30 | Groktar | also, i see the dps of all hybrids going up significantly in 3.0 |
| 00:21.45 | kokolores | yeah, hybrids |
| 00:22.12 | kokolores | well, maybe 20% haste will make up for it, who knows |
| 00:22.16 | Gnarfoz | <Xinhuan> you haven't seen some of the new melee talents right? <-- yeah, like the rogue ones! ... /cry :< |
| 00:22.26 | Xinhuan | 6 secs of misdirect |
| 00:22.27 | Xinhuan | lolol |
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| 00:22.34 | Groktar | the question isn't so much whether the bosses will still be theoretically killable, but whether people will care enough to put in the effort to kill shit |
| 00:22.37 | Xinhuan | rogues can just go all out now |
| 00:22.46 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: that's not even a talent (nor in, at all) |
| 00:22.50 | Xinhuan | ya i know |
| 00:22.52 | Wobin | what's broken now? |
| 00:22.54 | Xinhuan | its a 65 skill |
| 00:23.34 | Xinhuan | 75 i mean |
| 00:24.13 | Xinhuan | just melee complaining about battleshout/might not stacking |
| 00:24.22 | NivFreak | there are much larger issues |
| 00:24.29 | NivFreak | all the lock stacking guilds will cry |
| 00:24.33 | NivFreak | all the shaman stacking guilds will cry |
| 00:24.40 | NivFreak | cooldowns on drums and pots |
| 00:24.42 | Xinhuan | but hey you don't hear priests/warlocks complaining about self-improved shadowbolt/misery do you? :) |
| 00:24.49 | Xinhuan | or the drums removal |
| 00:24.56 | NivFreak | < NivFreak> cooldowns on drums and pots |
| 00:24.57 | Xinhuan | and heroism/bloodlust 5 min cd |
| 00:25.04 | NivFreak | < NivFreak> all the shaman stacking guilds will cry |
| 00:25.07 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:25.10 | NivFreak | totems are raid wide too |
| 00:25.17 | NivFreak | and totems combined |
| 00:25.19 | Groktar | my guild stacks shaman, and i love it |
| 00:25.27 | NivFreak | Groktar: in 3.0 they are wasted ;) |
| 00:25.29 | Groktar | because we keep throwing guild as the useless sons of bitches |
| 00:25.37 | Xinhuan | what i don't understand is whether the +100% damage totem of wrath is a typo |
| 00:25.45 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: it has to be |
| 00:25.47 | Groktar | and i look forward to booting them from guild/raid in favor of people who care |
| 00:25.50 | Xinhuan | on mmo-champion that is |
| 00:25.53 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: hear me complaining about shadow priest nerfs! |
| 00:25.58 | smcn | flourish > chain heal imo |
| 00:26.11 | Groktar | hehe |
| 00:26.12 | NivFreak | did you see they raised mind flay's coefficent and it's going to crit?! |
| 00:26.20 | Groktar | really? |
| 00:26.20 | smcn | hurricane crits too! |
| 00:26.23 | NivFreak | yes! |
| 00:26.23 | smcn | :D |
| 00:26.25 | Groktar | about time |
| 00:26.31 | Xinhuan | where's my blizzard crits |
| 00:26.32 | NivFreak | and DK diseases can crit |
| 00:26.39 | NivFreak | I suspect lock dots are next |
| 00:26.44 | NivFreak | and maybe spriest |
| 00:26.46 | Groktar | doesn't believe NivFreak anymore |
| 00:26.48 | Stanzilla | NivFreak: yes...it's a start but still not how it should be |
| 00:26.53 | NivFreak | Stanzilla: agreed |
| 00:26.57 | smcn | Xinhuan: imp blizzard + frostbite zomg |
| 00:27.11 | Groktar | where did you see mindflay critting? |
| 00:27.12 | Xinhuan | icebarrier proccing frost nova lol |
| 00:27.31 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I'm pretty sure Blizzard crits now |
| 00:27.36 | NeoTron | channeled AoE's crit |
| 00:27.37 | Groktar | o |
| 00:27.43 | Xinhuan | i'm going to love blast wave knockback now, pretty much gonna camp the flag in eots |
| 00:27.44 | Groktar | that took me all of 5 seconds to find |
| 00:27.45 | NeoTron | should include lock ones too I hope |
| 00:27.49 | Xinhuan | knock a few horde off into the void |
| 00:27.56 | Stanzilla | Groktar: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9023697467&pageNo=3&sid=2000#41 |
| 00:28.21 | Groktar | ya |
| 00:28.30 | Groktar | took me all of 5 seconds to find once i actually looked |
| 00:28.31 | smcn | kind of makes sense from a logical standpoint... i mean, lightning bolt and frostbolt crit... only difference with hurricane and blizzard is they're coming from the sky ;) |
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| 00:29.02 | Xinhuan | they should remove the binary spell system imo |
| 00:29.13 | Xinhuan | none of that full/0 resist crap |
| 00:30.17 | smcn | i would think that's planned for the future what with the separation of miss/resist... maybe they'll save it for when the next expansion turns the game on its head ;) |
| 00:30.18 | Groktar | how do you have a partial resist on something like a stun? |
| 00:30.22 | smcn | yet again^ |
| 00:30.33 | Xinhuan | i mean on stuff like |
| 00:30.35 | Xinhuan | frostbolts |
| 00:30.40 | smcn | Groktar: well, roots can partial resist |
| 00:30.43 | Xinhuan | it either lands, or it doesn't |
| 00:30.58 | NivFreak | partial resist stuns could lower duration! |
| 00:31.03 | Stanzilla | lower the hit cap imo |
| 00:31.21 | Groktar | they did, didn't they? |
| 00:31.22 | Stanzilla | I can't specc 10% anymore :( |
| 00:31.25 | NivFreak | speaking of, what is the hit cap now? |
| 00:31.28 | NivFreak | at lvl 80 |
| 00:31.35 | smcn | NivFreak: that's how it works for roots :) i believe it's the exact same as damage spell resist, except it affects the duration instead of the damage |
| 00:31.40 | Groktar | idk, but i think it's 9% for a boss now |
| 00:31.53 | NivFreak | got an evidence of that groktar? |
| 00:32.17 | smcn | i don't think they're changing DW hit cap |
| 00:32.31 | NivFreak | let's go with spells |
| 00:32.42 | NivFreak | 202 is the cap now (sans talents) |
| 00:32.52 | NivFreak | which is 16% right? |
| 00:32.57 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 00:33.15 | Arrowmaster | 16.01% |
| 00:33.30 | NivFreak | :P |
| 00:33.33 | NivFreak | rounding |
| 00:33.43 | Arrowmaster | well the cap is 16% |
| 00:34.37 | NivFreak | right |
| 00:36.17 | NivFreak | looks like roughly 33 hit rating is 1% at lvl 80? |
| 00:36.35 | NivFreak | so 297 would be 9%, 528 would be 16% |
| 00:36.40 | NivFreak | wow |
| 00:37.01 | NivFreak | and there doesn't seem to be a lot of hit on the gear we've seen from lvl 80 so far... |
| 00:37.02 | Xinhuan | lvl 80 gear won't have any less tan 30 hit each |
| 00:37.10 | Xinhuan | you've only seen green gear and quest gear |
| 00:37.13 | Xinhuan | not the epic ones yet |
| 00:37.18 | Xinhuan | or the lvl 80 dungeons |
| 00:37.24 | Xinhuan | or heroic dungeons |
| 00:37.42 | Xinhuan | or new enchants |
| 00:37.55 | Xinhuan | the wotlk gems add a lot |
| 00:37.56 | NivFreak | well |
| 00:37.59 | NivFreak | we've seen some of the heroic gear |
| 00:38.02 | NivFreak | and a lot of the lvl 80 blue gear |
| 00:38.05 | thul | http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/4338/rule34gx5.jpg |
| 00:38.08 | NivFreak | "a lot" |
| 00:38.52 | Xinhuan | well blue gear is really inadequate |
| 00:38.55 | Wobin | hehe rule 34 |
| 00:38.58 | Xinhuan | think about kara gear |
| 00:39.02 | Wobin | ruining childhoods since forever |
| 00:39.05 | Xinhuan | when u first hit 70 |
| 00:39.11 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: I understand that |
| 00:39.12 | NivFreak | don't worry |
| 00:39.22 | NivFreak | I'm just saying, we haven't seen much yet |
| 00:39.29 | NivFreak | so it's hard to say which is likely |
| 00:39.38 | NivFreak | or if blizzard even intends us to be hit capped |
| 00:39.43 | Xinhuan | what class are you? |
| 00:39.59 | NivFreak | I have several toons |
| 00:40.03 | NivFreak | my main is a prot warrior :P |
| 00:40.09 | Xinhuan | which is your main, or going to be your main in wotlk? |
| 00:40.15 | NivFreak | as for in wrath, I'm not sure |
| 00:40.18 | NivFreak | might go fury |
| 00:40.32 | NivFreak | I might switch to my priest again |
| 00:40.32 | Arrowmaster | well for dps casters if you arent hit capped your worthless since hit is the single most important stat until your caped |
| 00:40.35 | Xinhuan | rememebr, there's 28 raiding specs, only 25 raid spots, one of each spec :D |
| 00:40.47 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: unless they put stupid amounts of haste on our gear |
| 00:41.06 | Arrowmaster | depends |
| 00:41.29 | NivFreak | they are clearly trying to make gameplay more twitchy |
| 00:41.48 | NivFreak | and there's a ton of haste on all the early wrath gar |
| 00:41.50 | NivFreak | gear even |
| 00:41.58 | NivFreak | stupid amounts |
| 00:42.22 | NivFreak | the warrior I'm playin in beta, has all quest rewards with just a couple of instance drops from UK and nexus |
| 00:42.28 | NivFreak | and I think I'm at 16% haste already? |
| 00:42.32 | smcn | i think you could rearrange and cut out some words and say "early wrath gear is stupid" :P |
| 00:42.37 | Arrowmaster | for the most part from the calcs ive done, atleast for warlocks +dmg is still better than +haste |
| 00:42.44 | NivFreak | smcn: even the higher lvl 70 gear is similar |
| 00:42.52 | NivFreak | pre-raid gear is still fairly uncertain |
| 00:43.04 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: on a pt for pt basis sure |
| 00:43.14 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: but if you can pick up 2 haste at the cost of 1 dmg, you're going to |
| 00:43.35 | NivFreak | or rather, you should be :P |
| 00:43.36 | Arrowmaster | all gear is on a point for point basis almost |
| 00:43.40 | smcn | i inspected an 80 priest in dalaran, i don't think he was wearing a single northrend item |
| 00:43.50 | ReAn | how do i get the default "Profile" tab group into my options using AceConfig? |
| 00:43.58 | NivFreak | smcn: still raid gear? |
| 00:44.13 | smcn | NivFreak: yeah, T6-level |
| 00:44.33 | NivFreak | so my hunter/warrior are set |
| 00:44.43 | NivFreak | :P |
| 00:44.57 | NivFreak | my priest/paladin pretty much only have decent healing/tank gear |
| 00:45.02 | NivFreak | that is going to hurt |
| 00:45.07 | smcn | and i don't imagine i'll be replacing anything until late 70's on my druid, who is early T6-level (badge/za/actual t6) |
| 00:45.20 | smcn | the only thing i /know/ i'll replace is my cloak, still wearing the freaking one from sethekk |
| 00:45.24 | smcn | (resto) |
| 00:45.29 | NivFreak | ouch |
| 00:45.32 | NivFreak | the oracle one? |
| 00:45.37 | smcn | yeah |
| 00:45.52 | NivFreak | I think the nexus quest cloak will smoke that |
| 00:46.01 | NivFreak | I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to quest to 80 |
| 00:46.05 | NivFreak | or grind instances |
| 00:46.07 | smcn | i know it will :) saw it awhile ago |
| 00:46.30 | kokolores | does wow web stats have a mirror site? |
| 00:46.35 | NivFreak | no |
| 00:46.39 | kokolores | k |
| 00:46.44 | smcn | but i'm questing in HF, planning on going from there straight to dragonblight... already did BT on my dk and found it meh, and i have the rest xp to accomplish it |
| 00:46.50 | NivFreak | I feel sick every time I pay WWS |
| 00:46.58 | smcn | lol |
| 00:46.59 | kokolores | i dont |
| 00:47.22 | kokolores | just wanted to see muru stats |
| 00:47.29 | NivFreak | smcn: I've only done BT so far |
| 00:47.34 | NivFreak | I'm 50% of the way to 72 |
| 00:47.52 | NivFreak | the leveling speed feels ok after the last adjustment |
| 00:48.11 | NivFreak | BT has so many quest hubs though |
| 00:48.13 | smcn | yeah i had to do both on my DK because i started at 68... my questing in HF came to an abrupt halt when i couldn't take any of the quests in winterhoof |
| 00:48.16 | kokolores | fastest after release will be perma instancing i guess |
| 00:48.19 | NivFreak | they really need subcatagories in your quest log |
| 00:48.23 | kokolores | annoying tho |
| 00:48.42 | NivFreak | kokolores: it sucks when you don't need any gear |
| 00:48.48 | kokolores | tbc was a nice walkthrough when you followed the quests from zone to tone, found that was well done |
| 00:48.52 | NivFreak | I know we were doing ~100K/xp hour in TBC doing it |
| 00:48.52 | smcn | i liked the idea someone posted on the forums, that (at least) your first run through an instance should give you a full level, via quest or whatever |
| 00:48.57 | NivFreak | and on a pvp server, it can be a LOT faster |
| 00:49.06 | NivFreak | kokolores: agreed |
| 00:49.21 | kokolores | i hit friday or saturday 70 in beta and monday or tuesday was release |
| 00:49.31 | kokolores | still a headache from doing all over again |
| 00:50.17 | NivFreak | I'm bringing 5 alts up to 60 atm |
| 00:50.21 | NivFreak | in addition to my 4 70s |
| 00:50.38 | NivFreak | the only content that REALLY hurts me still |
| 00:50.41 | NivFreak | is the classic stuff |
| 00:50.44 | NivFreak | TBC was so much better |
| 00:50.46 | thul | http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/246/c/3/Concentration_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 00:50.55 | thul | portrait of the day, that is. |
| 00:51.34 | Dashkal | nice |
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| 00:52.22 | Groktar | hmm |
| 00:52.23 | kokolores | allara lol |
| 00:52.33 | Groktar | wonder if i should bring more than 5 super mana pots to sunwell tonight |
| 00:52.38 | kokolores | think i am still using her roguespam addon from 2005 |
| 00:52.51 | Wobin | Groktar: if you have to ask, then the answer is yes |
| 00:53.13 | kokolores | to which boss? |
| 00:53.18 | kokolores | and what class? |
| 00:53.19 | CIA-25 | 03Allara 07WotLK * r81301 10HitsMode/HitsMode.lua: HitsMode: Rev # |
| 00:53.55 | kokolores | as warrior i wouldnt bring that many tbh |
| 00:54.28 | Elgren | qwesto, thanks for earlier man. worked superb |
| 00:54.49 | Elgren | im going to bed now. but just for spawning taughts in my sleep |
| 00:54.52 | Wobin | kokolores: well as a warrior, you clearly have better mana management =P |
| 00:55.14 | Elgren | can I anchor set the panels to putbull frames aswell? |
| 00:56.47 | omniwolf | thanks for the discussion about wrath guy.. i know almost nothing about it so it was pretty informative :) |
| 00:56.54 | Elgren | or raid frames rather, like group1. |
| 00:56.58 | omniwolf | guy.. guys |
| 00:57.29 | NeoTron | NivFreak: and WotLK is even better |
| 00:57.32 | Wobin | this is -not- your spiderman cup? |
| 01:07.41 | kokolores | anybody here playing on euroservers? |
| 01:07.52 | Esine | kokolores, me |
| 01:07.55 | kokolores | wow is the first game i play on euros and i think its full of assholes lol |
| 01:08.02 | kokolores | you like it? |
| 01:08.09 | Esine | well |
| 01:08.15 | Carancu | some servers are worse than others. |
| 01:08.19 | Esine | there are a lot of immature people |
| 01:08.26 | kokolores | yes, exactly |
| 01:08.54 | Esine | kokolores, but you usually learn how to avoid them |
| 01:08.55 | kokolores | also, guilds...officers do what they want and in the end stand there with the fat stuff after going through tons of raiding members |
| 01:09.09 | Esine | one of the best tactics is not interact with Night Elves at all |
| 01:09.13 | Carancu | for example, I used to play on Stormscale, now I can't stand the server, it's a lot better on Argent Dawn, but even there there is quite a lot of annoying people, but they tend to be easier to walk around for me. |
| 01:09.21 | kokolores | im hoarde |
| 01:09.29 | Esine | kokolores, then belves |
| 01:09.33 | kokolores | # |
| 01:09.46 | kokolores | im on shattered hand, same battlegroup |
| 01:09.57 | Carancu | hey Esine, what ya got against my race of choise? :P (I know what you mean though) |
| 01:09.59 | kokolores | strongest i think, cyclone |
| 01:10.08 | Esine | : |
| 01:11.21 | kokolores | carancu, are on aregnt dawn also so many swedes? |
| 01:11.35 | kokolores | 70-80% everywhere seem to be swedes |
| 01:11.46 | Carancu | not nearly as many as on Stormscale, but yes, there are quite a lot of swedes there. |
| 01:12.18 | Carancu | all but a few prefer to keep to using english as main language though, myself included. |
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| 01:12.36 | kokolores | on sh they often just all speak swedish in public and trade |
| 01:12.50 | kokolores | ppl complain, still happens often |
| 01:14.04 | Carancu | I havn't seen "swe?" in a long time, and I'm happy to not see it. |
| 01:14.38 | kokolores | hehe, know what you mean |
| 01:14.51 | kokolores | all those ppl whispering in swedish or asking swe? |
| 01:15.02 | kokolores | and in pugs way back just talking swedish |
| 01:15.25 | kokolores | dont mind that much though |
| 01:15.35 | kokolores | just generally a bit upset atm with the guild im in |
| 01:15.41 | kokolores | basically ripping everybody up |
| 01:15.51 | kokolores | cant wait for wotlk and hopp servers :P |
| 01:16.02 | kokolores | *off |
| 01:16.27 | Carancu | one of our raidleaders gave us a good laugh a long time ago when we fought Gruul, he lead the raid exclusively in swedish, I think we laughed more than we fought Gruul... |
| 01:16.49 | kokolores | well, really dont mind it that much |
| 01:16.57 | kokolores | just generally a bit pissed off atm :p |
| 01:17.16 | Carancu | it's hillarious to hear the abilitynames translated directly over to another language. |
| 01:17.31 | kokolores | yeah |
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| 01:27.33 | CIA-25 | FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
| 01:27.33 | CIA-25 | - simple TOC update. among other things, specify that add-on is BSD licensed |
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| 01:57.37 | Ironhand | is it possible in Grid to always show pets on a separate row? that is, even in normal 5 man groups |
| 01:57.58 | Ironhand | for me it seems to just make one very long row with players followed by pets in that situation |
| 01:58.44 | NivFreak | it all depends on your layout |
| 02:00.22 | Ironhand | in what way? I don't see a lot of layout customizing options that affect normal 5 man party setup, most seem to affect only raids |
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| 02:19.54 | Arrowmaster | muahaha ive got a conq bracer and belt token in my inventory now! from my 2nd kalec and 2nd brut kills |
| 02:23.19 | eliteevil | muahahaha I got prot pants off kalec, and a felmyst shield tonight |
| 02:23.28 | eliteevil | /lootwhore |
| 02:24.53 | sacarasc | grats |
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| 02:29.34 | Xelopheris | So official word: viarail train's in canada can give you a good enough internet connection to play WoW on... but don't do Illidan when you're going through a rregion full of tunnels >< |
| 02:30.50 | Wobin | Good to know =) |
| 02:31.18 | sacarasc | if i'm ever in canada, i'll remember that |
| 02:37.42 | Gary13579 | Xelopheris: cell phone tethering ftw |
| 02:38.08 | Gary13579 | got a 1.5 mb/s connection in my pocket where ever I go |
| 02:38.16 | Wobin | Gary13579: cell phone coverage isn't often great in tunnels though |
| 02:38.28 | Gary13579 | true :p but neither is that either |
| 02:38.33 | Wobin | also expensive =P |
| 02:38.46 | Wobin | well, he did say it wasn't good =P |
| 02:38.47 | Gary13579 | Nope, free :) |
| 02:38.53 | Xelopheris | $$$ for cell phone coverage... |
| 02:38.59 | Gary13579 | (if you do it properly >.>) |
| 02:39.01 | Xelopheris | or 3 minute mac spoof for free wifi on train |
| 02:39.16 | Wobin | how do you mac spoof for that? |
| 02:39.55 | Gary13579 | Basically, as long as you have an unlimited data plan with Sprint, you can use your phone as a modem with no charge if you disable DUN NAI |
| 02:39.57 | Wobin | you're not bruteforcing a mac are you? =P |
| 02:40.04 | Gary13579 | they don't monitor usage unless you go insane |
| 02:40.18 | Xelopheris | That's a shitton expensive gary |
| 02:40.41 | Gary13579 | Nah. unlimited data is like $10, on top of the usual $40-50-whatever plan |
| 02:41.03 | Gary13579 | But I'm on the sprint FAF plan, so $15 unlimited data 1000 day unlimited night/weekends |
| 02:41.07 | Wobin | for me, Dun Nai is: http://juliansi.blogspot.com/2008/05/dun-nai-yee-shun-milk-company-senado.html |
| 02:43.43 | Gary13579 | I know DUN stands for dial up networking, can't remember the nai. it's how sprint monitors if you're tethering or not, and can be disabled if you know your MSL number |
| 02:44.46 | Wobin | I prefer my Dun Nai |
| 02:44.50 | Wobin | tastier |
| 02:45.47 | Wobin | hm |
| 02:45.55 | Wobin | yes, definitely missing AdBlock on Chrome |
| 02:47.16 | Gary13579 | same :/ |
| 02:47.31 | Gary13579 | I'd miss noscript, but guess it isn't really needed now. |
| 02:47.51 | Wobin | why? |
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| 02:48.51 | Gary13579 | their whole sandbox protection. you could probably just disable any plugins that aren't needed in settings to avoid exploits via those |
| 02:50.03 | Wobin | oh I use noscript to block google analytics =P |
| 02:52.48 | Xinhuan | http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1843 |
| 02:52.54 | Xinhuan | Google Chrome vulnerable to carpet-bombing flaw |
| 02:55.04 | Xinhuan | and this book is nice |
| 02:55.04 | Xinhuan | http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ |
| 02:55.14 | Xinhuan | a 40-page comic strip on how/why they made Chrome |
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| 03:08.45 | omniwolf | yeah i read that, pretty good IMO |
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| 03:46.00 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81303 10AckisRecipeList/ARLDataminer.lua: |
| 03:46.00 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:46.00 | CIA-25 | - DMupdate |
| 03:47.39 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81304 10AckisRecipeList/RecipeDB/ARL-Vendor.lua: |
| 03:47.39 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 03:47.39 | CIA-25 | - Vendor loc update for Hula'mah |
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| 04:29.51 | CIA-25 | 03jokeyrhyme * r81305 10FuBar_RaidSaveFu/RaidSaveFu.lua: |
| 04:29.51 | CIA-25 | FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
| 04:29.51 | CIA-25 | - now listen for CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM(arg1 = "INSTANCE_SAVED") to trigger update |
| 04:35.43 | raegx | ellipes |
| 04:35.45 | raegx | are you here |
| 04:35.49 | raegx | get chrome man, 50mb |
| 04:36.49 | omniwolf | about chrome - http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10030522-2.html |
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| 04:41.33 | Aeyan | Chome is neat but the bookmarks bug me and I miss adblock... a lot. |
| 04:42.08 | Aeyan | It's fast though, I can't deny that. |
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| 04:45.48 | raegx | yea adblock + noscript |
| 04:45.59 | raegx | but ellipses wanted a browser that can run sub 100mb |
| 04:46.32 | kaiden | Soooo i need some opinions on warriors, currently i have a 70 warrior that's got bleh kinda gear, but is 375 blacksmithing and i have 10 primal mights, currently he's full fury and has the crafted sword from blacksmithing but i was thinking about respec'ing to arms and crafting the lionheart blade |
| 04:46.34 | kaiden | Any opinions? |
| 04:48.11 | Aeyan | Eh, I'd just BG for a while and pick up the S2 greatsword. I don't know the condition of your faction and battlegroup, but it's probably less work on your part. |
| 04:49.09 | kaiden | well i have the mats to make the lionheart blade |
| 04:49.28 | Aeyan | Ah |
| 04:49.55 | kaiden | plus i can't stomach pvp enough to get any gear typically haha |
| 04:50.09 | kaiden | is arms better for pvp than fury? |
| 04:50.28 | Aeyan | Oh yes |
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| 07:04.38 | CIA-25 | 03jayhawk * r81306 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFu.lua: |
| 07:04.38 | CIA-25 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 07:04.38 | CIA-25 | - fixed issue with feeding pets |
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| 07:10.56 | Zhinjio | Good evening, folks. |
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| 07:39.34 | CIA-25 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r771be27 10/ : Seems we get more global macros in Wrath - http://is.gd/2ako |
| 07:39.36 | CIA-25 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * rf338784 10/ : Buttons now pickup the macro after creating it, or just pick up if it exists - http://is.gd/2akp |
| 07:39.38 | CIA-25 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r9b05df8 10/ : Disable the macro buttons in combat - http://is.gd/2akq |
| 07:40.04 | Zhinjio | wow. |
| 07:40.07 | Zhinjio | thats was pretty harsh. |
| 07:40.16 | Zhinjio | not sure I deserved that. |
| 07:40.23 | Zhinjio | but ... oh well. sometimes that just how it goes. |
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| 07:41.21 | Wraithan | Philosophy is a battle against the bewitchment of our intelligence by means of language. |
| 07:41.26 | Wraithan | oops |
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| 07:47.44 | Adirelle|work | heya |
| 07:51.25 | Adirelle|work | could people help to figure out what "sounds" better between several wording possibilities, e.g. : 'Aura filtering by name', 'Filter aura by name' or 'Aura name-based filtering' ? |
| 07:52.17 | dodga | Last one sucks balls :> |
| 07:52.29 | Wraithan | This an option or a description? |
| 07:52.37 | dodga | I'd go with "Filter aura by name" |
| 07:52.38 | Adirelle|work | section title |
| 07:52.51 | Wraithan | first |
| 07:53.12 | Adirelle|work | ok |
| 07:53.16 | Adirelle|work | now, some other |
| 07:53.53 | Wraithan | Nope one per 4 days, just like the fucking tailoring cooldown |
| 07:54.03 | Wraithan | shakes his fist at the tailoring cooldowns! |
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| 07:56.09 | Adirelle|work | explanation first, wordings then : for each aura, one can choose if it will be shown or not, they are 3 basics options : always show, show only if it has been created by the player, or never show it |
| 07:57.19 | Adirelle|work | (note that always show apply to wotlk only, as we haven't any duration data for others' auras before 3.0) |
| 07:58.12 | Adirelle|work | so.. atm I have a "default" option with three choices : "display all auras", "display auras I apply", "ignore all auras" |
| 07:59.06 | Adirelle|work | and for each specific aura : "default", "ignore", "only when I cast it", "group specific setting", "display" |
| 07:59.44 | Adirelle|work | should I keep "ignore"/"display" or use something like "reject"/"accept" or even "show"/"do not show" ? |
| 08:01.13 | Adirelle|work | (and btw, would "mine" qualifies "auras I cast" or "auras I applied" ?) |
| 08:03.12 | dodga | Hm, some auras are not "cast", like Shadow Weaving or Nightfall, imho |
| 08:03.33 | Adirelle|work | yep |
| 08:03.37 | Adirelle|work | there is item's proc too |
| 08:04.06 | dodga | It's not an item proc, too :) |
| 08:04.06 | Adirelle|work | (same for some talents, etc...) |
| 08:04.13 | dodga | Okay then :D |
| 08:05.01 | dodga | May I ask what addon you're hacking together? :D |
| 08:05.03 | Adirelle|work | the idea is to differentiate auras you "caused" from auras caused by others |
| 08:05.08 | Adirelle|work | Yatba |
| 08:05.13 | dodga | Oh I see |
| 08:05.52 | Adirelle|work | e.g. "show all" could display other mages' polymorph when "show mine" should only display your polymorph |
| 08:06.22 | dodga | Well, I'd think for people that "just want it to work" an option for everything that the user applied (directly or through procs/talents) is a good default |
| 08:06.26 | Adirelle|work | (actually that works only on beta, and I hope it won't break at retail) |
| 08:06.36 | dodga | As "everything" would spam the hell out of em |
| 08:06.38 | Adirelle|work | actually, this is the default |
| 08:06.51 | Adirelle|work | but you can enable "advanced aura filtering" with blacklisting and all the stuff |
| 08:07.03 | dodga | But I for one would like to opt-in what to show |
| 08:07.32 | Adirelle|work | changes Yatba to use "mine" as default when advanced filtering is disabled |
| 08:07.53 | dodga | Is the advanced thing opt-in or opt-out? |
| 08:08.01 | Adirelle|work | opt-in |
| 08:08.14 | Adirelle|work | it works this way : |
| 08:08.22 | Adirelle|work | 1) you enable "advanced filtering", |
| 08:08.47 | Adirelle|work | 2) you selected the global behavior between : show all, show mine and hide all |
| 08:09.07 | Adirelle|work | 3) you can add auras to an exception list |
| 08:09.33 | Adirelle|work | 4) for each aura of the list you can choose between "show", "show mine", "hide", "delegate to groups" |
| 08:10.00 | Adirelle|work | 5) in the later case, in each group of bars, you can choose between "show", "show mine" and "hide" |
| 08:10.42 | Adirelle|work | actually "ignore" should be better than "hide", or maybe should I word like this : "show always", "show mine", and "never show" ? |
| 08:11.19 | dodga | I don't know, I'm kinda confused with "show always" |
| 08:11.32 | Adirelle|work | why ? |
| 08:11.40 | dodga | Makes me wonder if there are special conditions under which it would or would not show |
| 08:11.41 | Adirelle|work | wait |
| 08:12.09 | Adirelle|work | example setup : enable advanced filter, set default to "show mine", add "polymorph" to the exception, configure it to "show always" |
| 08:12.12 | dodga | It's not ad-hoc clear that it means "regardless who casted it" |
| 08:12.25 | Adirelle|work | no you can monitor all polymorphs of the group |
| 08:12.30 | Adirelle|work | ok |
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| 08:13.18 | Adirelle|work | "show all" ? or "show any" ? |
| 08:14.10 | dodga | Does it have to be "show ..."? |
| 08:14.37 | dodga | I think "applied by me", "applied by group/raid", "applied by enemy" would be more clear |
| 08:14.38 | Adirelle|work | no |
| 08:14.48 | Adirelle|work | I don't know, that's why I'm asking |
| 08:15.53 | Adirelle|work | actually we can only differentiate "by me" and "by anyone", not group/raid vs enemy |
| 08:16.19 | dodga | Heh, Blizz again with their halfhearted crap implementation |
| 08:16.42 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle 07AuraFilter * r81307 10Yatba/Yatba/Filters.lua: Yatba: defaults to show only auras applied by the played when aura filtering is disabled. |
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| 08:17.27 | Adirelle|work | and well, I'm not even sure it will remain his way when beta will hit live. |
| 08:17.35 | Adirelle|work | the test I'm doing is kinda undocumented |
| 08:17.46 | Adirelle|work | s/his/this/ |
| 08:17.51 | dodga | Like so much in the scripting API :D |
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| 08:24.05 | Lyn | ~fart Fisker- |
| 08:24.06 | purl | ACTION farts in Fisker-'s general direction |
| 08:29.40 | dodga | ~~~~ |
| 08:29.41 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT dodga!!! |
| 08:29.48 | dodga | hrhr :o |
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| 08:32.22 | [SW]Dodge | g'morning all |
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| 08:36.49 | Adirelle|work | morning |
| 08:38.36 | Adirelle|work | so dodga, it ends up like this : |
| 08:39.12 | Adirelle|work | "default rule" : choice between "show auras applied by anyone", "show only auras applied by me", "do not show any aura" |
| 08:40.15 | Adirelle|work | then "aura specific rule" : choice between "do not show", "show when applied by me", "show when applied by anyone", and er... "use group-level rule" ? |
| 08:44.17 | dodga | Maybe "depending on group"? |
| 08:44.28 | dodga | The other options are good, imho |
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| 08:54.31 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle 07AuraFilter * r81308 10Yatba/Yatba/ (Filters.lua Options.lua Yatba.lua): Yatba: reworded the filtering options, thanks to Dodga. |
| 08:57.19 | dodga | whoohoo, I'm in your changelog :> |
| 08:58.22 | Kalroth | I'm in your changelog, changing .. well your log. |
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| 09:07.32 | Adirelle|work | hrmf... talked a bit with a friend, seems my advanced filtering stuff isn't exactly intuitive when it comes to group-specific rules |
| 09:09.39 | Adirelle|work | I'd better have a big "override global rules" checkbox than an per-aura setting |
| 09:12.10 | [SW]Dodge | some one wants to donate me a wotlk beta key? XD |
| 09:13.08 | Adirelle|work | [SW]Dodge: have you tried the "author key give-aways" of wowi or curse ? |
| 09:13.15 | Adirelle|work | <= worked for me |
| 09:13.40 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle|work: on curse yes, on wowi i cant upload my addon as i cant select an upload category |
| 09:16.51 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle|work: http://dodgex.servegame.com/wowi.jpg |
| 09:18.41 | Esine | try a different browser :x |
| 09:19.40 | [SW]Dodge | IE7, FF3, Opera => all the same |
| 09:19.45 | Esine | oh |
| 09:20.07 | [SW]Dodge | and yes, i'm logged in :D |
| 09:23.03 | [SW]Dodge | i also tried to "cheat" it by setting the option manually :S |
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| 09:28.33 | dodga | Adirelle|work: I tried beta key grabbing on CF two weeks ago, but no answer yet. Maybe they found out, that I only uploaded a project to snag a key : |
| 09:30.28 | Adirelle|work | dodga: actually I upload an addon on wowi just for the beta key, though that is an addon I wrote one year ago |
| 09:30.55 | Adirelle|work | and I still maintain it |
| 09:31.26 | dodga | My addon is nearly 2 years old and still functional. I guess CF just hates on me :> |
| 09:31.48 | dodga | Or somebody actually looked into the code and went mental :/ |
| 09:31.59 | Tamaroth | uhm, anyone is using RBM addon ? |
| 09:32.13 | Aiiane | dodga: it's more just that there's a delay on blizzard sending out keys |
| 09:32.17 | [SW]Dodge | dodga: i uploaded my addon on cf also for the beta key, but i will continue updateing it there. and i would do the same on wowi if it would be possible to uploda it ;) |
| 09:32.25 | Aiiane | it's not an instant thing |
| 09:32.40 | Aiiane | even the first set of authors who got keys it took something like a month |
| 09:32.59 | Adirelle|work | Tamaroth: I tried, but felt it was more an "proof of concept" more than an actually usable bar addon |
| 09:33.02 | dodga | Aiiane: Yeah no biggie, I've got my last exam before starting my thesis on friday, so probably it's a good thing I can't play beta |
| 09:33.21 | dodga | But then again this visualization and computer graphics stuff makes my head assplode :/ |
| 09:34.34 | dodga | [SW]Dodge: I coded several addons before BC, but then they were all superseded by Ace awesomeness, and I don't have time or motivation to create addons :D |
| 09:34.49 | dodga | Most stuff I need is covered by addons from wowace |
| 09:35.31 | [SW]Dodge | dodga: yea, have a problem like yours, but i'm searching for addon ideas that are not allready 100x done ;) |
| 09:36.30 | Aiiane | Easy solution |
| 09:36.33 | Aiiane | come mod for WAR |
| 09:36.36 | Aiiane | ;) |
| 09:36.44 | Adirelle|work | people still surprise me sometimes : http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17830 |
| 09:36.48 | Tamaroth | Adirelle|work: the thing is, whenever i turn that addon on, it mess up totally my UI, DHUD, pitbull, bartender and so on |
| 09:36.49 | dodga | Pay my WAR subscription? :> |
| 09:37.08 | Aiiane | hell no :P |
| 09:37.31 | dodga | Then I won't mod for WAR :> |
| 09:37.39 | dodga | I'm a hardcore Blizz fanboi! :P |
| 09:37.54 | dodga | But I'll leave the second they screw up my belove Priest :) |
| 09:38.05 | [SW]Dodge | Aiiane: i dont think that i'll get WAR. afaik it is primary PvP and i'm a PvP noob xD |
| 09:38.17 | Adirelle|work | [SW]Dodge: I don't search "new ideas", I just write addons that implement existing idea "my way" (unless I found an addon that already do it) |
| 09:38.47 | dodga | Adirelle|work: Too much free time? :D |
| 09:39.12 | Adirelle|work | Tamaroth: as I said I tried a couple of time, then I dropped it, so I can't be of much help here |
| 09:39.12 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle|work: well that is also a good idea but most addons work "okay" or are to hard to implement it by myself ;) |
| 09:40.06 | Adirelle|work | not so much spare time, though it increased since I had a new job |
| 09:40.42 | Adirelle|work | I wrote SimpleSelfRebuff when SmartBuff and AutoBuff were broken by 2.0 "secureness" |
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| 09:41.07 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle|work: :D i love you for SSR XD |
| 09:41.29 | Aiiane | [SW]Dodge: It's definitely a PvP game, but it's not the type of PvP you find in WoW arenas |
| 09:41.43 | [SW]Dodge | i was searchin for sth like this long time ago as "Autobuff [Emerald]" is discontiunued^^ |
| 09:41.48 | Aiiane | it's more like... hmm... I guess "Alterac Valley, except done right" |
| 09:42.03 | Adirelle|work | [SW]Dodge: thanks |
| 09:42.25 | [SW]Dodge | Aiiane: well its a fact that i'll test it but i wont buy it directly ;) |
| 09:42.36 | Adirelle|work | I'm wondering how Tekkub's Cork work, it seems to be another buff addon |
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| 09:44.35 | [SW]Dodge | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.36 | [SW]Dodge | -.- |
| 09:44.44 | [SW]Dodge | It's because your account wasn't activated yet. I've gone in and manually activated it for you. You should be able to use the full functionality of the site now. |
| 09:44.53 | [SW]Dodge | Cairenn: thank you :D |
| 09:45.05 | Cairenn | :) |
| 09:45.08 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 09:45.15 | [SW]Dodge | i was sure that i activated it! ._.' |
| 09:45.27 | Cairenn | have you changed your email addy? |
| 09:45.49 | [SW]Dodge | mhm, not sure, but i think no |
| 09:46.44 | Cairenn | ah well, either way it's all sorted out now :) |
| 09:50.46 | thul | juhu |
| 09:52.56 | Adirelle|work | from what I saw, cork has very similar function to SmartBuff, also integrating other goodies (like pet feeding), I may ending up converting SimpleSelfRebuff to Cork_MouseWheelBinding ^^ |
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| 09:55.14 | Ellipsis | licks thul |
| 09:55.25 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 10:04.23 | Pkekyo| | YEEEEEEEEEEES! FUCKING WOOPTIE! :D |
| 10:04.28 | Pkekyo| | my parcel arrived :D |
| 10:05.46 | Zyndrome | enjoy your new realdoll |
| 10:05.48 | Zyndrome | spins |
| 10:05.58 | Pkekyo| | what's a realdoll? |
| 10:07.10 | renchap | http://www.realdoll.com/ |
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| 10:07.24 | Pkekyo| | ahahahah |
| 10:07.30 | Pkekyo| | no, it's a pistol holster :) |
| 10:09.19 | [SW]Dodge | yay its done :D |
| 10:09.37 | [SW]Dodge | CooldownButtons is now aviable at WoWi :D |
| 10:13.39 | Cairenn | :) |
| 10:14.56 | thul | i want eviscerate to be buffed |
| 10:15.49 | Pkekyo| | I want your mom |
| 10:16.20 | thul | you cant haaaave heeeer |
| 10:17.41 | Pkekyo| | :( |
| 10:17.45 | [SW]Dodge | ticket 817, so there are 226 other authors before me :D but maybe i'm lucky, want to fix my addon for wotlk befor release that i can start leveling after release :D |
| 10:17.55 | [SW]Dodge | Pkekyo|: kidnap her ^^ |
| 10:19.01 | Ellipsis | [3:07:24 am] <Pkekyo|> no, it's a pistol holster :) |
| 10:19.06 | Ellipsis | that could describe a realdoll... |
| 10:19.17 | CIA-25 | 03scorpion * r81309 10Recount/locales/Recount-zhTW.lua: |
| 10:19.17 | CIA-25 | Recount: |
| 10:19.17 | CIA-25 | - Update zhTW |
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| 10:21.26 | Pkekyo| | Ellipsis: you're demented :p |
| 10:21.44 | Ellipsis | just because I'm sorry doesn't mean...I didn't enjoy it at the time |
| 10:21.49 | Ellipsis | sings |
| 10:22.03 | Pkekyo| | rofl |
| 10:22.12 | Pkekyo| | http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4702/9031846tu3.jpg <3 |
| 10:22.43 | Ellipsis | kinky, I didn't even know they sold realdoll accessories like that |
| 10:22.51 | Elgren | [SW]Dodge cooldownbuttons is a superb mod |
| 10:23.03 | [SW]Dodge | superb? |
| 10:23.09 | Pkekyo| | rofl Ellipsis |
| 10:23.15 | Elgren | excelent! |
| 10:23.19 | [SW]Dodge | ah k :D |
| 10:23.21 | Pkekyo| | you're so perverted it's scaring me :p |
| 10:23.26 | Pkekyo| | ...and that says alot... |
| 10:23.26 | Ellipsis | no it's not |
| 10:23.27 | Ellipsis | you like it |
| 10:23.38 | [SW]Dodge | Elgren: thank you :) |
| 10:24.14 | [SW]Dodge | wtf 1 realdoll = 6,5k$ |
| 10:24.15 | [SW]Dodge | q.q |
| 10:24.16 | [SW]Dodge | xD |
| 10:24.24 | orionshock | you can weapon skillup on immune right? |
| 10:24.29 | Ellipsis | no |
| 10:24.39 | orionshock | sure?' |
| 10:24.43 | Tigerdyr | you used to be able to |
| 10:24.47 | Ellipsis | I can go test with banish if you want ;) |
| 10:25.26 | orionshock | i think you can, because that's what the mobs outside of the DP turn into, as well as the ones in SMV |
| 10:26.12 | Ellipsis | they go un-immune after a few seconds |
| 10:26.13 | Cairenn | btw [SW]Dodge - if you ever want to get in touch with me quicker, just pop into the #WoWUIDev channel |
| 10:26.21 | Ellipsis | and I thought the SMV guys absorbed |
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| 10:26.44 | [SW]Dodge | Cairenn: okay, i tryed #wowi but that was an empty channel ^^ |
| 10:26.53 | Cairenn | it's a forward now |
| 10:27.00 | orionshock | Oy! they put RFC into northrind |
| 10:27.02 | Cairenn | or at least, it's supposed to forward |
| 10:27.09 | orionshock | or part of it at least |
| 10:27.41 | Elgren | Guys im looking for a simple mod that announces in chat/sct etc when I dispell/purge/interrupt something. It needs to announce what I dispell/purge/interrupt. |
| 10:27.52 | [SW]Dodge | now #WoWUIDev is in autojoin :) |
| 10:28.03 | Elgren | Anyone familar with such a mod? |
| 10:28.19 | Tigerdyr | can do it with macro.. |
| 10:28.33 | orionshock | MacroTalk? |
| 10:28.37 | Cairenn | :) |
| 10:28.38 | Tigerdyr | *snicker* |
| 10:28.41 | orionshock | AuraToChat? |
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| 10:29.34 | Elgren | Tigerdyr, great. Do you know how I specify what buffs I purge etc? |
| 10:31.19 | orionshock | Elgren: you can set a macro to announce when you cast the spell; however you can't get it to verify that it worked.. u'd prolly want a mod for that... |
| 10:31.53 | Elgren | yes |
| 10:32.29 | Elgren | id like to announce in party when I interrupt: "Interrupted: Fear" |
| 10:32.31 | Elgren | etc |
| 10:32.39 | Elgren | its for arena |
| 10:33.11 | orionshock | could try MacroTalk, on wowinterface; or ?Aura2Chat here on wowace |
| 10:33.31 | Elgren | Ill try it out, thanks |
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| 10:37.53 | Adirelle|work | hmm... I should add a new rule in my proxy.pac to use the tunnel when the site or url contains "sensitive" content |
| 10:39.47 | orionshock | "Paranoia, Paranoia, Paranoia, everyone is coming to get me...." |
| 10:40.01 | orionshock | oops, 1 too many Paranoia in there... |
| 10:41.49 | Adirelle|work | orionshock: that's not paranoia, I *know* there is a traffic sniffer on my network gateway, it has be announced to every employee |
| 10:43.43 | Adirelle|work | it is officially to monitor network bandwith usage in order to size our needs and to troubleshot network issues |
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| 10:47.28 | orionshock | meh, last time i checked there is no such thing as secure on the internet.. there is just encryption that is not worth breaking.. |
| 10:51.07 | Tigerdyr | heh, last time someone decided to monitor and publish the top 100 domains visited, the comment from one of my colleagues was "Oooh.. I don't know half of those in top 20" |
| 10:51.53 | Tigerdyr | Perhaps working for an ISP changes ones perspective.. dunno |
| 10:55.04 | Elgren | orionshock, checked them out. doesnt seem like they do what I need :( |
| 10:55.28 | orionshock | well there is a tsol factor there.. could write your own addon for it |
| 10:55.41 | Zyndrome | "Enraged Assault redesigned, now Enraged Regeneration: You regenerate 30% of your total health over 10 sec. This ability consumes all Enrage effects and prevents any from affecting you for the full duration. Must be enraged to use. Cost 15 rage, 3 min cooldown." |
| 10:55.48 | Elgren | I wish I could. really do |
| 10:55.49 | Zyndrome | -_- |
| 10:57.19 | thul | http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00842/_Grease_tittel_jpg_842712x.jpg <- I would hit it |
| 10:57.33 | orionshock | dosn't purge, when it works, generate a combat log event? |
| 11:02.39 | Ellipsis | yes |
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| 11:20.01 | orionshock | sylvanaar: |
| 11:20.21 | orionshock | sylvanaar: ping :D |
| 11:26.15 | sylvanaar | orionshock pong |
| 11:26.38 | orionshock | chatlinks.. is it a glitch that it uses the custom format for channels that support linking |
| 11:26.43 | orionshock | like party chat? |
| 11:27.06 | sylvanaar | maybe an oversight on my part |
| 11:27.39 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.18 | sylvanaar | I'm going to be making another pass through all the modules this week/weekend. Just report errors only the forum thread for the alpha version. |
| 11:28.32 | sylvanaar | s/only/on/ |
| 11:30.00 | sylvanaar | jira is really unwieldy, plus i dont know how to set up a project. The curse ticket system, is pretty good, so i'll use it probably - I just don't know if I should use the curse one or wait for them wowace version of it |
| 11:30.34 | sylvanaar | s/them/the/ |
| 11:30.51 | sylvanaar | cant type today |
| 11:31.16 | orionshock | i can't type at all, and i type for a job ... don't feel bad |
| 11:32.15 | sylvanaar | yeah, so do i, I never learned to type corectly. I still have to look at the keyboard |
| 11:32.38 | sylvanaar | and I have been typing for 25 years |
| 11:32.58 | sylvanaar | is old |
| 11:33.09 | orionshock | that makes you older than ~35? :P |
| 11:33.16 | sylvanaar | it makes me 35 |
| 11:33.26 | orionshock | that's not old |
| 11:33.41 | sylvanaar | i got my first computer when I was 10, an apple IIe |
| 11:33.59 | Adirelle|work | I've got a Oric-1 when I was 7 |
| 11:34.15 | sylvanaar | i dont even know what that is |
| 11:34.20 | Adirelle|work | I started to hack the game "packman" at 8 |
| 11:34.39 | Adirelle|work | I think it's an european computer, based on a 6520 |
| 11:34.50 | sylvanaar | i learned 6502 assember at 10 |
| 11:35.09 | sylvanaar | 3 registers, 1MHz ftw |
| 11:35.24 | Adirelle|work | ^^ |
| 11:35.36 | Adirelle|work | OS at fixed address |
| 11:37.03 | Adirelle|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oric-1#Oric-1 |
| 11:40.16 | Adirelle|work | wow, reading that article makes me feel very old |
| 11:47.56 | Fisker- | Ellipsis |
| 11:47.57 | Fisker- | comfort me :( |
| 11:48.01 | Fisker- | Spore crashed |
| 11:48.03 | Ellipsis | comforts Fisker- |
| 11:48.08 | Fisker- | and i just found out a feature they should've implemented |
| 11:48.11 | Fisker- | autosaves |
| 11:48.33 | Fisker- | so you don't have to start over from ~the beginning when the game crashes :/ |
| 11:48.44 | Fisker- | I WAS A MIGHTY SPACE TYRANT |
| 11:49.08 | Ellipsis | you're always a mighty space tyrant to me |
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| 11:49.25 | Fisker- | doesn't matter if spore doesn't think so :( |
| 11:49.26 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 11:49.31 | Ellipsis | k |
| 11:49.32 | Ellipsis | etc. |
| 11:49.59 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 11:50.10 | [SW]Dodge | <3 #wowace! |
| 11:51.09 | Megalon | so spore stopped the penisheads from taking over the universe? |
| 11:51.31 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work hehe, yeah. did you have a disk drive, or did you load from a cassette tape? |
| 11:52.15 | Ellipsis | Megalon: it's too late for that, penisheads already rule the universe |
| 11:52.45 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work remember x,y and the accumulator - fun times lol |
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| 11:55.37 | Megalon | Ellipsis: at least Fisker-'s penisheads are slowed down ;\ |
| 11:55.56 | Ellipsis | how many does he have? o.O |
| 11:56.48 | Megalon | i'd think as much as possible... it's Fisker- |
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| 11:58.02 | Adirelle|work | sylvanaar: magnetic tape |
| 12:11.18 | sylvanaar | Adirelle|work lol I remember that used to take like 30 min to load from |
| 12:14.13 | CIA-25 | 03ag 07Ace3-WotLK * r81310 10ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitFrames/ag_UnitClass.lua: ag_UnitFrames: small fix |
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| 12:31.28 | sylvanaar | I need to remember to put a notice in my wotlk branch for prat, that says to switch to the trunk version - i didnt realise it but there are still people using it |
| 12:32.30 | sylvanaar | i guess a popup dialog would work - or maybe some load spam |
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| 12:39.22 | Hjalte | If you want to be noticed, a pop-up is probably better |
| 12:42.08 | sylvanaar | thanks, i'll use tht |
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| 12:43.18 | Hjalte | I never read the load spam :) |
| 12:43.51 | Megalon | delete the branch? ;) |
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| 12:50.55 | renchap | is http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=47531 felwood or zangar ? |
| 12:51.28 | Hjalte | Is it any of them? |
| 12:53.45 | kenlyric | pretty sure that's not any of them |
| 12:53.54 | kenlyric | or it's a corner of zang I've never seen |
| 12:57.09 | renchap | i have 3 choices : zangar, felwood or desolace |
| 12:58.43 | Hjalte | It's not from wotlk? |
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| 13:01.44 | Adirelle|work | renchap: someone at my office is trying to guess it too ^^ |
| 13:01.52 | renchap | :) |
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| 13:12.36 | Adirelle|work | renchap: satellite views ftw |
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| 13:34.37 | Hjalte | "can u heal' " - No, not today my friend... |
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| 13:35.25 | Hjalte | The least lazy people like that could do, is to use an addon like Polite Whisper. |
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| 13:40.57 | smcn | Hjalte: sometimes that mod can be more annoying, forcing me to read more text before saying "no" ;P |
| 13:41.40 | Hjalte | smcn: At least it tells you where they are going, what they need and eventually what classes they already have. |
| 13:41.58 | smcn | true enough |
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| 13:54.23 | Adirelle|work | renchap: so what did you answered ? |
| 13:55.20 | CIA-25 | 03pneumatus * r81311 10ClassLoot/ (8 files): |
| 13:55.20 | CIA-25 | ClassLoot: |
| 13:55.20 | CIA-25 | - Removed some _G pollution |
| 13:55.20 | CIA-25 | - Implemented LibBabble-Class and LibBabble-TalentTree rather than maintaining our own translations |
| 13:55.20 | CIA-25 | - Better handling of localising bosses and instances |
| 13:57.01 | CIA-25 | 03pneumatus * r81312 10ClassLoot/Constants.lua: |
| 13:57.01 | CIA-25 | ClassLoot: |
| 13:57.01 | CIA-25 | - Adding in the Constants file |
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| 13:58.01 | renchap | Adirelle|work: zangar |
| 13:58.36 | Adirelle|work | here we got, for each picture in order : arathi, nagrand and desolace |
| 13:59.22 | renchap | desolace ? oO |
| 13:59.29 | [SW]Dodge | onyxia is in BigWigs_Azeroth? |
| 13:59.34 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 13:59.40 | [SW]Dodge | ok thanks :) |
| 13:59.42 | [Ammo] | or she should be |
| 13:59.50 | renchap | Arathi, Nagrand and Zangar here |
| 13:59.58 | Adirelle|work | renchap: here : http://mapwow.com/?lng2=-92.9937744140625&lat2=61.97510571906957&zoom=8 |
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| 14:00.25 | renchap | ho |
| 14:00.32 | renchap | never seen this |
| 14:00.43 | Adirelle|work | I think I actually got once here |
| 14:01.17 | njal | huh? |
| 14:01.19 | njal | it that place live? |
| 14:01.21 | njal | never seen it |
| 14:01.35 | Adirelle|work | yes it is |
| 14:01.49 | Adirelle|work | http://worldofwarcraft.judgehype.com/images.php?img=47531 |
| 14:03.15 | njal | cool :) |
| 14:03.30 | njal | probably going to do the ony prequest on my drewd soon(ish) (tm) |
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| 14:03.48 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 14:05.56 | ckknight | howdy all, how's everyone doing this fine morning? |
| 14:06.44 | Adirelle|work | you just got some coffee, amirite ? ^^ |
| 14:07.10 | ckknight | I don't drink coffee |
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| 14:08.21 | [SW]Dodge | yay, falling down to hell :S |
| 14:08.34 | smcn | ckknight: wtf! what kind of nerd are you that doesn't drink coffee |
| 14:08.47 | ckknight | I just don't like it |
| 14:08.51 | winkiller | bet he does coke instead! |
| 14:09.10 | smcn | blaspheme! burn the witch! |
| 14:09.13 | smcn | :P |
| 14:09.13 | winkiller | http://develop-one.net/blog/2008/08/27/HugADeveloper.aspx |
| 14:12.29 | ckknight | winkiller: I need a hug |
| 14:12.44 | winkiller | sends via DCC |
| 14:13.35 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 14:15.58 | Zyndrome | http://www.wowarmory.com/guild-info.xml?r=Aegwynn&n=We+Are+Prepared&p=1 |
| 14:15.59 | Zyndrome | ..... |
| 14:19.06 | CIA-25 | 03pneumatus * r81313 10ClassLoot/ (5 files): |
| 14:19.06 | CIA-25 | ClassLoot: |
| 14:19.06 | CIA-25 | - Fix bug with World Boss drops |
| 14:20.03 | Adirelle|work | Zyndrome: they are all level 33 ! |
| 14:20.54 | Adirelle|work | I mean they didn't just created many level 1, they also leveled them ... |
| 14:21.18 | kenlyric | 25 boxer? |
| 14:21.21 | kenlyric | 32 boxer? |
| 14:21.42 | CIA-25 | 03jayhawk * r81314 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFu.lua: |
| 14:21.42 | CIA-25 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 14:21.42 | CIA-25 | - removed debugger |
| 14:22.10 | ckknight | Zyndrome: that's kinda funky |
| 14:22.16 | ckknight | Zyndrome: albeit pretty cool |
| 14:22.34 | Zyndrome | 6 x 5 multiboxers, maybe |
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| 14:26.49 | CIA-25 | 03jayhawk * r81315 10FuBar_PetInfoFu/PetInfoFu.lua: |
| 14:26.49 | CIA-25 | FuBar_PetInfoFu: |
| 14:26.49 | CIA-25 | - removed other debugger (oops) |
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| 14:33.01 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle 07AuraFilter * r81316 10Yatba/Yatba/Options.lua: Yatba: fixed a bug in options. |
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| 14:38.44 | CIA-25 | 03pneumatus * r81317 10ClassLoot/ClassLoot.lua: |
| 14:38.44 | CIA-25 | ClassLoot: |
| 14:38.44 | CIA-25 | - Use unrestricted lookup tables on Babble* to fallback to local lookups without warnings. |
| 14:39.22 | *** join/#wowace raegx_wk (n=raegx_wk@gandalf.cs.rit.edu) |
| 14:39.39 | raegx_wk | for the wowace downloads, is there a way to get stats to see if ppl are downloading your addon? |
| 14:40.11 | AckisWork | no |
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| 15:02.01 | Adirelle|work | how does that firefox plugins that allow you to enter commands ? |
| 15:02.16 | Adirelle|work | hmm... I think I forgot a verb |
| 15:02.33 | Adirelle|work | how is named that firefox plugin that allows you to enter commands ? |
| 15:03.36 | raegx_wk | commands as in javascript commands? |
| 15:04.26 | njal | you're thinking of firebug ? |
| 15:04.38 | thul | FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME |
| 15:06.35 | fewyn | ubiquity Adirelle|work? |
| 15:07.13 | fewyn | http://labs.mozilla.com/2008/08/introducing-ubiquity/ |
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| 15:26.28 | Funkeh` | hai |
| 15:27.35 | AckisWork | any users of ARL here? |
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| 15:32.57 | Funkeh` | titan swtiched from rock to ace3 |
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| 15:37.19 | Stanzilla | lol |
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| 15:42.01 | Kolie | man, I got 122 errors, but they are the worst 122 errors ever. |
| 15:44.44 | AckisWork | error 1: don't use a mac |
| 15:44.49 | AckisWork | error 2: see error 1 |
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| 15:48.14 | digmouse | is there any mod that can send announcement based on omen threat status? like [RW]: digmouse passed 120% of Tank threat! |
| 15:48.20 | nevcairiel | hmm i moved my comp to a new case today, smaller and with better fans, man its damn quiet in here now |
| 15:49.04 | digmouse | I just moved to a CoolerMaster 690 |
| 15:49.10 | Ellipsis | what case? |
| 15:49.30 | Ellipsis | I'm trying to choose one for my new computer but it's so hard to pick :( |
| 15:49.38 | nevcairiel | I got a coolermaster 531 .. it was already discontinued, but we still had a spare one standing around from our last lan party |
| 15:50.11 | nevcairiel | although i replaced the stock fan with a better one |
| 15:50.29 | digmouse | I got the LED fan out of my former case a coolermaster arbiter and get it into 690 |
| 15:50.44 | AckisWork | Ellipsis: get a mac! |
| 15:50.50 | digmouse | saved 20USD :D |
| 15:51.24 | digmouse | Ellipsis: get a Zalman |
| 15:51.31 | digmouse | or ANTEC |
| 15:52.02 | Ellipsis | I'm considering the antec 900 |
| 15:53.08 | Gnarfoz | digmouse: lol, I should so hack that together so I can stop yelling at people on TS :p |
| 15:53.30 | kadrahil | uh, i just got a fatal error and wow crashed, and i was just standing on top of the bank in org doing nothing >.> |
| 15:53.39 | digmouse | Gnarfoz: grats, lookin forward to it |
| 15:53.40 | kadrahil | i had just deleted my wtf folder and addons to design a UI too |
| 15:53.56 | kadrahil | this has never happened to me before, weird |
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| 15:55.20 | kadrahil | i was a good person and sent in the error report :D |
| 15:56.51 | Silviu- | Ellipsis too loud case, get Antec P182 :P |
| 16:02.24 | Tinyboom | AckisWork: I use ARL, how come? :) |
| 16:02.54 | Gnarfoz | grr |
| 16:02.55 | AckisWork | Tinyboom: do you have the latest version from wowace? |
| 16:02.58 | Gnarfoz | chrome fails moar |
| 16:02.59 | Gnarfoz | C:\Documents and Settings\root\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application |
| 16:03.02 | Tinyboom | yes |
| 16:03.06 | Tinyboom | according to wau |
| 16:03.12 | Gnarfoz | why the fuck doesn't it obey %Program Files% |
| 16:03.23 | AckisWork | Tinyboom: are you noticing any issues with filters/etc? |
| 16:03.35 | Tinyboom | haven't tested, let me try, logging in now :) |
| 16:03.42 | AckisWork | k ty :) |
| 16:06.18 | Tinyboom | AckisWork: tried changing some filters, no errors so far |
| 16:06.20 | Hjalte | Google wants it all :( http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks |
| 16:07.03 | AckisWork | Tinyboom: ok ty :) |
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| 16:09.00 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: certainly sounds like they're using the same license they're using other places, too. Chrome is not a "service" |
| 16:09.29 | kadrahil | what the crap, wow crashed AGAIN |
| 16:09.34 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81318 10AckisRecipeList/ (ARLDataminer.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 16:09.34 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:09.34 | CIA-25 | - DM updates |
| 16:09.34 | CIA-25 | - Doc updates for new DB structure |
| 16:09.34 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 16:09.35 | Tinyboom | anyone care to fix this? :) http://ace.pastey.net/95358 |
| 16:09.37 | kadrahil | i was zooming out |
| 16:09.53 | Gnarfoz | oh shi- it MIGHT be your computer. |
| 16:10.00 | kadrahil | well |
| 16:10.09 | kadrahil | :( |
| 16:10.13 | kadrahil | i blame vista! |
| 16:10.51 | Gnarfoz | that's as good an excuse as any |
| 16:11.41 | Tinyboom | Ellipsis: if you can get a hold of Lian Li cabinets they are great :) my computer is so silent I have to check if it's on occasionally :p |
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| 16:12.27 | digmouse | I once considering Lian Li PC007 |
| 16:12.35 | digmouse | but unable to get it |
| 16:12.40 | Tinyboom | Ellipsis: http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=154&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=62 |
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| 16:13.44 | Tinyboom | whoops, forgot to mention, the pastey is about Fubar_AutoLoot |
| 16:15.12 | CIA-25 | 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate-92869 * r15 10/trunk/ (19 files in 5 dirs): |
| 16:15.12 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: |
| 16:15.12 | CIA-25 | -Initial commit on wowinterface |
| 16:15.27 | Ellipsis | Silviu-: sound doesn't matter |
| 16:15.38 | Ellipsis | I have my headphones on anyway, who cares what my case sounds like |
| 16:15.39 | Silviu- | Ellipsis oky ;) |
| 16:16.02 | Silviu- | ^^ |
| 16:16.11 | Silviu- | I do care when i let it on over night |
| 16:16.19 | Ellipsis | why? o.O |
| 16:16.20 | Silviu- | I want to sleep not to hear an airplane near me :P |
| 16:16.29 | Ellipsis | meh, I can sleep through anything |
| 16:16.30 | Silviu- | Cause i have my PC in same room i sleep ? ;) |
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| 16:20.04 | ckknight | people should really put an author field in their tocs. |
| 16:20.49 | AckisWork | ckknight: with CF and the wowace move, can you make certain ToC fields manditory? |
| 16:21.04 | ckknight | I can do whatever I feel like with hooks |
| 16:21.33 | Throngy | "muhuhahaha!" |
| 16:21.33 | ckknight | I recommend making tickets and such for what you think should be mandatory |
| 16:21.54 | ckknight | but yes, I _can_ do it, whether or not I will, you'd have to convince me |
| 16:22.35 | AckisWork | ckknight: there's some standard fields that are important, author would be one methinks |
| 16:22.46 | Ellipsis | that's not a ticket :P |
| 16:22.52 | ckknight | yea, that's not a ticket |
| 16:23.46 | kadrahil | writes ckknight a ticket for speeding |
| 16:24.04 | kadrahil | ;O |
| 16:24.09 | ckknight | in any event, if a toc does not have an Author field, it may be assigned to the wrong person in the curseforge transition. |
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| 16:24.44 | AckisWork | ckknight: I'm just thinking outloud, I'm on about 5 different tangents :P |
| 16:25.38 | ckknight | I'm going to fall back on what svn info says in that case, which could be wrong |
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| 16:45.43 | *** mode/#wowace [-r] by nevcairiel |
| 16:46.51 | Stanzilla | javascript:while(true)alert('hai'); < makes chrome happy |
| 16:47.50 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate-92869 * r18 10/ (80 files in 21 dirs): -Initial wowi commit & cia test |
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| 16:48.58 | nevcairiel | Mera stop breaking our CIA bot, if you change its rules, do it properly, thanks |
| 16:49.23 | Mera | not allowed to use cia.vc? |
| 16:49.33 | nevcairiel | sure, but dont disable our filters to add yours |
| 16:49.36 | ckknight | Stanzilla: what does that do to chrome? |
| 16:49.39 | Obble | Haha, success. Finally got IRC working |
| 16:49.41 | Mera | how sorry |
| 16:49.44 | ckknight | Obble: grats |
| 16:49.57 | Obble | :P It's a small victory |
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| 16:50.25 | Stanzilla | ckknight: nothing..I just realised that every browser executes that...I thought such things would be blocked |
| 16:50.28 | steev | kicks gustav |
| 16:50.55 | ckknight | Stanzilla: how could it be blocked, really? doing such static code analysis is intensive |
| 16:51.05 | Stanzilla | true :/ |
| 16:51.15 | steev | chrome kinda sucks |
| 16:51.22 | ckknight | steev: oh? |
| 16:51.30 | steev | at least on my system |
| 16:51.37 | steev | when i close a tab i get about 10 seconds of lag |
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| 16:52.01 | steev | other than that, i don't mind it too much |
| 16:52.30 | Hjalte | How much ram have you got steev? |
| 16:52.41 | steev | 2g |
| 16:53.12 | kagaro | chrome tos is the suck |
| 16:53.15 | steev | and its actually a fairly fresh install (~4 days) |
| 16:54.00 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81320 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 16:54.00 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:54.00 | CIA-25 | - Doc updates for new DB structure, should be finalized... so much info to track |
| 16:54.00 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
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| 16:57.23 | steev | don't get me wrong, i like it, and i use it, because i am a fan of webkit |
| 16:57.23 | steev | (not safari though) |
| 16:57.23 | steev | and its got some interesting features |
| 16:57.36 | steev | i like the application shortcuts |
| 16:58.19 | raegx_wk | the fact that if you make a blog post with chrome, google ownes, can change it, delete it, or sell it. Is not win in my book. |
| 16:58.28 | raegx_wk | the second they change the EULA I'll use it |
| 16:59.40 | raegx_wk | Same thing for picture posts to sites like flicr/imageshack, your f'ing profile on myspace/facebook, your resume on monster/linkedin/etc |
| 16:59.52 | kenlyric | yes |
| 17:00.01 | kenlyric | because you need that permission in order to actually display it on the internet |
| 17:00.15 | kenlyric | because displaying it on the internet *is* publishing it |
| 17:00.15 | raegx_wk | also you can't use chrome to make anything that you do for work |
| 17:00.24 | kenlyric | also |
| 17:00.27 | raegx_wk | because if you work w/ IP that you can't grant you can't agree to the EULA |
| 17:03.07 | AckisWork | ping Pneumatus |
| 17:03.16 | Pneumatus | pong AckisWork |
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| 17:03.35 | AckisWork | error on classloot reported in the ARL thread: ClassLoot-1.4.8\Constants.lua:2: Cannot find a library instance of "LibBabble-TalentTree-3.0". |
| 17:03.54 | Pneumatus | *double checks externals |
| 17:05.01 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 17:05.11 | Pneumatus | only 3 libs in the zip on files.wowace |
| 17:06.10 | AckisWork | branch = svn cp <url> <newurl> right? |
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| 17:07.22 | Pneumatus | well, its in the externals... the user must have checked it out from SVN without externals because the packagemancer hasnt got to it yet |
| 17:07.36 | Pneumatus | which means they dont have the stand-alone lib installed |
| 17:07.52 | steev | raegx_wk: so use the chromium builds? |
| 17:08.03 | AckisWork | http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=11798.0 it's in the last/second last post of that thread if you want to respond yourself |
| 17:08.09 | steev | http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/ |
| 17:09.07 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81321 10/branches/AckisRecipeList/: Make directory |
| 17:09.50 | CIA-25 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81322 10AckisRecipeList/: Make directory for new DB structure |
| 17:10.00 | steev | it's bsd licensed so such a eula couldn't be enforced upon it |
| 17:10.44 | Pneumatus | ARL must get the blame for a lot of LibStub errors |
| 17:10.48 | Pneumatus | being first in the alphabet ftl |
| 17:10.52 | AckisWork | I get blamed for a lot =/ |
| 17:12.03 | Pneumatus | my errors seem to get reported anywhere but my thread :> |
| 17:12.19 | Pneumatus | they've been reported on the LibBabble* threads, and now on ARL |
| 17:12.25 | NeoTron | Happiness is killing 3/6 SWP in 2 hrs. Sadness is wiping on twins for the rest of the night |
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| 17:13.07 | steev | i <3 that ARL |
| 17:14.13 | AckisWork | svn cp http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/trunk/AckisRecipeList/ http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/AckisRecipeList/NewDB/ -m "Create Branch" |
| 17:14.15 | AckisWork | that's the command right? |
| 17:14.27 | Lyn | *preordering fallout3* :x |
| 17:14.53 | CIA-25 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81323 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/: Create Branch |
| 17:14.59 | AckisWork | svn = dev (c&p ftl) |
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| 17:18.14 | steev | i dunno, i kinda prefer chromium's icon to google chrome |
| 17:18.14 | Pneumatus | hmm, maybe the packagemancer has built the latest classloot... im definatly only seeing 3 libs in the libs folder |
| 17:18.19 | steev | only because i hate google's coloring scheme |
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| 17:18.47 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate-92869 * r19 10/trunk/: |
| 17:18.48 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: OneCompanion: |
| 17:18.48 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: -organizing svn |
| 17:19.33 | kadrahil | weird |
| 17:19.47 | kadrahil | i can login to curse.com, but using the same user/password on the client is saying invalid login |
| 17:19.48 | Gnarfoz | that has to be one of the worst svn user names to date |
| 17:19.54 | kadrahil | :/ |
| 17:19.57 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: 03Mera_LaCroisadeEcarlate-92869 * r20 10/ (16 files in 12 dirs): moving files |
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| 17:21.04 | kadrahil | anyone else having problems logging in with the curse client? |
| 17:22.21 | steev | HRM |
| 17:22.32 | CIA-25 | 03pneumatus * r81324 10ClassLoot/: |
| 17:22.32 | CIA-25 | ClassLoot: |
| 17:22.32 | CIA-25 | - Re-commit externals, as something appears to be wrong |
| 17:22.37 | steev | anyone notice you can't buy blizzard wow ringtones in the US? |
| 17:22.49 | Gnarfoz | you can somewhere? |
| 17:22.57 | Gnarfoz | (why'd you want to, anyway? :X) |
| 17:24.04 | raegx_wk | who buys ringtones |
| 17:24.10 | raegx_wk | ... |
| 17:24.21 | Pneumatus | blimey, the packagemancer has been cocking up libs on classloot for ages... cant believe it wasnt reported before |
| 17:24.56 | Gnarfoz | !8ball Might that be because no one uses the addon? |
| 17:25.04 | Gnarfoz | oh, purl :X |
| 17:25.06 | Gnarfoz | ~8ball |
| 17:25.13 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Very doubtful |
| 17:25.27 | Gnarfoz | purl hates me |
| 17:25.27 | purl | yes. |
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| 17:26.36 | steev | oh i was just looking from curse |
| 17:26.41 | steev | my cell isn't even active :-D |
| 17:27.14 | steev | they really have a sense of humor though, since the murloc gurgle is one of the ringtones available |
| 17:27.24 | NivFreak | why should I ever care about being able to charge in combat as a prot warrior? .. |
| 17:28.32 | Throngy | cos it gives you a little bit of rage after switching stances? |
| 17:28.42 | Gnarfoz | steev: "from curse"... sounds like you clicked some random ad. |
| 17:28.48 | NivFreak | Throngy: why would I switch stances... |
| 17:29.18 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: to charge? |
| 17:29.19 | NivFreak | I can intervene in dstance |
| 17:29.19 | Gnarfoz | so? |
| 17:29.19 | Throngy | to charge a mob that isn't near a player |
| 17:29.19 | Gnarfoz | charge GIVES you rage |
| 17:29.19 | NivFreak | you dump FAR more rage |
| 17:29.20 | NivFreak | to switch and charge |
| 17:29.37 | Gnarfoz | uhm no, at least not when you're properly dumping your rage? oO |
| 17:29.49 | NivFreak | 50 to 10 vs 0 to 20? |
| 17:29.57 | steev | Gnarfoz: well its a link on their homepage under blizzard news :-P |
| 17:30.21 | Gnarfoz | steev: whatever, just extract and copy to your phone yourself. that's free. :P |
| 17:30.22 | steev | and yeah, i do click on ads sometimes to support the sites i visit, im silly like that |
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| 17:31.47 | NivFreak | warbringer seems like a pvp talent |
| 17:31.53 | NivFreak | in prot |
| 17:32.32 | steev | prot warriors don't pvp? |
| 17:32.56 | Gnarfoz | you don't know what class x/spec y will do. |
| 17:33.20 | NivFreak | steev: no |
| 17:33.40 | NivFreak | steev: Unless you count running the flag in WSG :P |
| 17:33.42 | NeoRevan | unstable intertubes are unstable :( |
| 17:33.54 | Gnarfoz | uhm NivFreak: you don't, either. |
| 17:33.55 | CIA-25 | 03adirelle * r81325 10Yatba/ (6 files): Yatba: merged advanced filtering from branch. |
| 17:34.12 | Gnarfoz | wait until it's finished, maybe prot pvp will be the new hotness. :P |
| 17:34.31 | NivFreak | it won't, they've said that ;P |
| 17:34.41 | NivFreak | maybe by the next xpac they said |
| 17:34.56 | NivFreak | in the meantime, they'll give us worthless filler talents for pvp in the prot tree |
| 17:35.20 | NivFreak | I still think fury is going to be the new hot warrior spec |
| 17:35.27 | steev | i like pvping as prot pally |
| 17:35.30 | NivFreak | for both pve and pvp :) |
| 17:35.38 | NivFreak | steev: why |
| 17:35.44 | NivFreak | I hate pvping on my prot pally |
| 17:35.49 | steev | cuz it takes the whole team to kill me? |
| 17:36.00 | NivFreak | so, you can never kill anyone :P |
| 17:36.13 | steev | who cares, im holding the flag, thats what the rest of my team is for |
| 17:36.22 | NivFreak | and a mage/lock will rip your shit up |
| 17:36.32 | Thrae | In WotLK, they're trying to separate out PvE and PvP specs in all trees, such that you'll have to respec. But respec'ing is suppose to become easier. |
| 17:36.37 | steev | not when they are stunlocked |
| 17:36.56 | steev | Thrae: less expensive? |
| 17:36.58 | kadrahil | Thrae: aren't they supposed to let you pick 2 specs that you can switch between on the fly without going back to a trainer? |
| 17:37.04 | NivFreak | and once again, flag running is a single exception, and I wouldn't really consider it pvp :P |
| 17:37.07 | Gnarfoz | Thrae: thanks for throwing in random old info :D |
| 17:37.08 | kadrahil | or was that just a rumor |
| 17:37.11 | Thrae | kadrahil: Right, something like that. |
| 17:37.18 | kadrahil | cool |
| 17:37.23 | steev | sweet |
| 17:37.23 | NivFreak | kadrahil: they "want" to do that |
| 17:37.28 | steev | so i can flip between prot and ret |
| 17:37.29 | NivFreak | but have done nothing of the sort yet |
| 17:37.30 | Gnarfoz | i.e. "maybe in 2 years" |
| 17:37.33 | NivFreak | aside from 1c respecs on beta |
| 17:37.38 | kadrahil | it will be nice |
| 17:37.39 | kadrahil | if they o |
| 17:37.40 | kadrahil | do* |
| 17:38.08 | kadrahil | "oh hey we need you to go survival tonight" |
| 17:38.10 | kadrahil | "fine" |
| 17:38.19 | Gnarfoz | they basically just said at blizzcon (because what *you* said was actually posed as a question) "yeah, we'd like to do something like that" |
| 17:38.30 | kadrahil | :/ |
| 17:38.44 | Gnarfoz | which means ... throw some dice! |
| 17:39.30 | NivFreak | or "soon" |
| 17:40.00 | Gnarfoz | which is a superset of "throw some dice" ;D |
| 17:40.24 | Aeyan | It's a bigger issue for me when they tell me (the shadow priest), "oh hey we need you to go survival tonight" |
| 17:40.25 | Aeyan | =P |
| 17:40.58 | Aeyan | We'll see, we'll see... |
| 17:43.37 | raegx_wk | you know what makes me upset? Eradar twins. Too many reso shammies needed for my blood. |
| 17:44.20 | raegx_wk | wtb wotlk content that isn't so lopsided |
| 17:44.49 | Gnarfoz | when 3.0 hits, even Eredar twins will probably have to be rebalanced |
| 17:45.02 | Gnarfoz | scratch that, half of sunwell :p |
| 17:45.26 | NeoTron | you don't specifically need resto shamans for twins |
| 17:45.29 | NeoTron | but it makes it easier |
| 17:45.34 | NeoTron | the main issue is the number of healers needed |
| 17:46.39 | NeoTron | I really think respec cost in general is annoying. it's a lot more fun on beta, frankly, when you can spec as you want |
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| 17:47.09 | NeoTron | "hold on, I'll just go respec for tanking" "ok, we'll summon you" > "hmm I don't want to spend 100g to respec to run this instance, sorry" |
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| 17:49.46 | nevcairiel | if prot does more dps, that would probably be fine as well |
| 17:50.22 | NeoTron | sure sure it'd help |
| 17:50.39 | NeoTron | but what if i'm DPS spec (or tank spec) and want to heal to get a 5-man heroic going? |
| 17:50.48 | NeoTron | I can't effectively heal in prot/shadow spec |
| 17:51.47 | nevcairiel | there is always enough healers, from what i remember |
| 17:52.17 | Gnarfoz | totally depends on server |
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| 17:53.35 | NeoTron | always enough healers: check, always enough healers that can actually heal you in a heroic, even one you outgear: ... |
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| 17:56.57 | Aeyan | Woot |
| 17:57.08 | Aeyan | Mind Flay +30% coefficient and crit-able |
| 17:57.27 | NivFreak | yea |
| 17:57.28 | NivFreak | sexy |
| 17:57.34 | NivFreak | I might go back shadow again |
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| 17:57.51 | NivFreak | I fell out of love after they nerfed us the first time |
| 17:57.51 | NivFreak | heh |
| 17:58.10 | Pneumatus | each tick can crit? |
| 17:58.15 | NivFreak | yes |
| 17:58.18 | Pneumatus | sexy |
| 17:58.23 | Aeyan | Still pissed about a ret paladin that can do more DPS than me being able to crank out the same mana regen and boomkins getting our Misery utility, but it's a start |
| 17:58.41 | NivFreak | they aren't done yet |
| 17:58.44 | Aeyan | I know |
| 17:58.47 | Aeyan | I'm still hopeful |
| 17:59.28 | Aeyan | Just, the raid debuff/utility thing was a pretty big gut punch to the shadow priest community, you know? |
| 17:59.29 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 18:00.18 | NivFreak | xpacs are resets |
| 18:00.27 | NivFreak | you can't expect the same thing going forward |
| 18:00.34 | NivFreak | at least, you'd be foolish to |
| 18:02.22 | Aeyan | The difference here is WotLK is making far broader changes to older 'accepted' mechanics than BC did |
| 18:02.43 | Aeyan | Since we're getting them piecemeal, it leads to frustration easily among the classes |
| 18:02.46 | NivFreak | are you trying to imply that shadow priests were useful in classic? |
| 18:03.03 | NeoTron | Aeyan: not if the SP dps is changed to scale/match other DPS classes |
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| 18:03.18 | Aeyan | NeoTron: Agreed. |
| 18:03.21 | NeoTron | and BC had huge changes |
| 18:03.35 | NeoTron | like the secure template stuff (not class specific but decidedly game changing) |
| 18:04.01 | Aeyan | That's not exactly what I was talking about |
| 18:04.01 | NeoTron | and you have to admit priests got into an essential raid role as dps rather than just healing |
| 18:04.07 | [Merc]Balstor | Hey every should go hug their air conditoner tonight, |
| 18:04.08 | Aeyan | Sure |
| 18:04.25 | NeoTron | it's the same thing |
| 18:04.25 | Aeyan | Too much initially |
| 18:04.25 | NeoTron | 8 -> 40 debuff slots |
| 18:04.34 | NeoTron | made debuffing important vs just something to fight with |
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| 18:05.11 | Pneumatus | being able to mind vision off vael's debuff in bwl was clearly ftw though |
| 18:05.28 | NivFreak | orly |
| 18:05.30 | Gnarfoz | [Merc]Balstor: people don't even *own* air conditioners here. :p |
| 18:05.32 | NivFreak | does that still work? |
| 18:05.32 | NivFreak | haha |
| 18:05.43 | Aeyan | Mind Vision is still clearly OP |
| 18:05.50 | Aeyan | I mean, you've seen those crits right? |
| 18:05.53 | Pneumatus | you couldnt test it really, seeing as youd need 40 priests |
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| 18:06.10 | Pneumatus | which would mean youd need one of them nominated as tank :) |
| 18:07.26 | Aeyan | Anyway, I perfectly willing to give Blizzard the benefit of the doubt up till release |
| 18:07.31 | Aeyan | That's the idea of a beta |
| 18:08.01 | Lukian | Aeyan, you won't lose your 25man spot, but 10 mans, people have wider choice ^_^ |
| 18:08.18 | NivFreak | 27 trees... 10 raid spots |
| 18:08.22 | NivFreak | oh wait |
| 18:08.25 | NivFreak | 30 trees |
| 18:08.26 | NivFreak | :P |
| 18:08.29 | Lukian | yup :D |
| 18:08.36 | Thrae | Aeyan: You should mediate for Warhammer Online Beta as well. |
| 18:08.40 | Lukian | 10 classes, 10 raid spots :p |
| 18:09.08 | Lukian | NivFreak, what would be good is if they *increased* 25mans to 30mans XD haha |
| 18:09.10 | Aeyan | Thrae: Eh, WAR doesn't interest me till it's been out for a bit and I can get a better picture. |
| 18:09.31 | NivFreak | Lukian: not really |
| 18:09.32 | Lukian | every tree in unison = yummy |
| 18:09.38 | Thrae | Aeyan: I meant giving a company with a proven track record the benefit of the doubt ;) |
| 18:09.52 | Lukian | assuming you could get away with 4 healers |
| 18:10.07 | Aeyan | Meh to Mythic too |
| 18:10.37 | Aeyan | You haven't logged onto Maelstrom in quite a while |
| 18:10.42 | Aeyan | That where you ran off to? |
| 18:11.01 | Thrae | Among other things. |
| 18:13.33 | NeoTron | so I think the Inn in Star's Rest in Dragonblight is the best ever |
| 18:13.49 | NeoTron | "hmm, an inn keeper without an inn?!" "oh, the tent is the inn!" |
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| 18:15.17 | Aeyan | I still have to give it up for that Grizzly Hills quest |
| 18:15.53 | NivFreak | which one? |
| 18:15.54 | Aeyan | Nothing says epic adventure like questing for a laxative so you can crap out some seeds you ate. |
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| 18:15.58 | NivFreak | haha |
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| 18:19.06 | Dashkal | My stomach turned at the line after you complete that quest... |
| 18:19.10 | NeoTron | ahah yeah. I got the quest but I didn't do it yet |
| 18:19.16 | NeoTron | since I just bounced right back to dragonblight |
| 18:19.30 | Dashkal | When you do it, stick around and watch the little scripted bit |
| 18:20.11 | NeoTron | will do |
| 18:20.21 | Aeyan | Considering my stance on the dung quest in Nagrand, I'm going to have to go with just eating the seeds and riding along to the next zone. =P |
| 18:20.26 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: you're probably not gonna fix stuff that only errors because FeedbackUI is present, right? ;) |
| 18:20.59 | NeoTron | I must say I wonder and admire the work in making guides for tourguide |
| 18:21.13 | NeoTron | I just don't know how one would go about to figure out the best way of doing stuff |
| 18:21.30 | Tekkub | turn off the tooltip queues |
| 18:21.41 | Tekkub | and no, I can't fix THEIR code :P |
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| 18:23.29 | Gnarfoz | Tekkub: you could fix yours, and yes, that's what I did for TG for now (first time using it, anyway) |
| 18:23.53 | Gnarfoz | s/fix/change/ |
| 18:25.20 | Aeyan | The WotLK theme is good stuff |
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| 18:28.47 | [Merc]Balstor | gnarfoz where areyou in the world?? ( go go Carmen Sandiego) |
| 18:29.00 | Gnarfoz | somewhere that is not the US? |
| 18:29.09 | Gnarfoz | (in this case: Germany) |
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| 18:30.41 | [Merc]Balstor | actually in the northern ring of the US people don't own air conditioners either, but down here in the South, hug them bad boys, kiss them, and buy them a toaster for the weekend..... |
| 18:31.48 | Aeyan | The last half of that sentence is a new level of creepy |
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| 18:33.01 | Matrix110 | its awesome our server is to full so our tanks get raped at Brutallus by server lag issues |
| 18:33.18 | Matrix110 | Heal 0.3 AFTER the hits overheals 100% instead of healing the hit damage |
| 18:33.26 | Matrix110 | and then tank dies |
| 18:33.27 | Matrix110 | awesome |
| 18:36.43 | [Merc]Balstor | Aeyan I just spent 4 nights in a room that was 85 degrres (F) 85% humdity with zero air blow, hell I'll buy my air conditioner a fruit fucker if thats what it wants to work again |
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| 18:37.02 | [Merc]Balstor | s/blow/flow/g |
| 18:37.05 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 18:37.12 | Aeyan | I can relate |
| 18:37.21 | Aeyan | We've been having constant AC problems over the past month |
| 18:37.22 | Cheads | hehe |
| 18:38.07 | winkiller | Matrix110: Arthas? :P |
| 18:38.22 | [Merc]Balstor | yhea my issue was this fellow named gustav, came in a wrecked the joint, fooled around with a bunch of cities and decide it need some new dental floss so it stole allof the high power transfer lines (14 out of 14 to be exact) |
| 18:38.33 | [Merc]Balstor | where is one eye joe when you need him?? |
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| 18:41.13 | Matrix110 | winkiller no Kazzak |
| 18:41.28 | winkiller | ow, never heard stuff about that one :P |
| 18:41.47 | Matrix110 | We have these problems in the last 4 Brutallus kills now MT after the Combat log the mt shouldnt have died but did |
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| 18:42.17 | winkiller | that's bad |
| 18:42.31 | winkiller | I mean, we have ghost targets DC on Teron, but it's a bit less bad :P |
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| 18:48.39 | Zhinjio | G'morning. |
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| 18:58.12 | Gnarfoz | heh, they renamed all head enchants (Glyph of *) to Arcanum of * |
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| 19:01.54 | Lyn | anyone else have high latency on beta realm? (coldarra) |
| 19:02.06 | Gnarfoz | define "high" |
| 19:02.14 | Lyn | 8k |
| 19:02.34 | Gnarfoz | uhm no :> |
| 19:02.40 | Daemona | 8k is high yes ;) |
| 19:02.46 | Daemona | gimme a second to login |
| 19:02.49 | Lyn | damnit |
| 19:03.20 | Gnarfoz | I'm at ~220ish, like always |
| 19:03.51 | Lyn | meh |
| 19:04.30 | Daemona | yeah 200-220 here too |
| 19:05.01 | Lyn | meh amusing on live I've low latency |
| 19:06.48 | Daemona | then your link over to the us beta realms suxx |
| 19:07.25 | Lyn | seems so |
| 19:08.00 | kadrahil | what's worse is i get 40ms ping from my parents house |
| 19:08.04 | kadrahil | to my realm |
| 19:08.21 | kadrahil | at my apartment 100 miles away i get 220 ms pings |
| 19:08.27 | kadrahil | :X |
| 19:12.15 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:12.49 | Gnarfoz | I get ~20ish on live, 220ish on beta... (guess why), while people keep saying "you don't notice the difference anyway" I certainly do :X |
| 19:13.16 | Lyn | meh |
| 19:14.05 | Gnarfoz | also, meh, I didn't even notice the 2nd bandage takes 4 cloth to create |
| 19:14.13 | Gnarfoz | no wonder it's taking me ages to max 1st aid out |
| 19:21.31 | raegx_wk | <3 http://www.last.fm/music/The+Picard+Song |
| 19:22.20 | kadrahil | is everyone that used bartender3 now using bartender4? |
| 19:22.22 | kadrahil | well, in general |
| 19:22.51 | profalbert | most people in here are I think |
| 19:23.11 | profalbert | but when I look to "normal" users a lot of them stick with bt3 |
| 19:23.35 | profalbert | because they can't live w/o that sticky-bar-feature |
| 19:23.46 | kadrahil | it is pretty handy ;( |
| 19:24.12 | profalbert | it is, but how often do you move your bars |
| 19:24.50 | raegx_wk | one thing that I don't like about bt4 over bt3, is that when you lock the bars in bt4 you can't drag spells from say the spell book or items from your inventory to hot swap |
| 19:25.26 | raegx_wk | oddly enough I want the lock to be less of a lock and more of a don't drag crap out =D |
| 19:25.46 | kadrahil | heh |
| 19:33.23 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.48 | sylvanaar | did nothing ungrouped |
| 19:35.07 | Thrae | http://www.worldofraids.com/news/277.html <-- it's on WotLK Beta |
| 19:36.01 | sylvanaar | nope |
| 19:36.06 | sylvanaar | i dont see it |
| 19:36.41 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: maybe doesn't do anything when ungrouped? |
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| 19:37.19 | Gnarfoz | bt3 on live, bt4 on beta =D |
| 19:37.42 | NeoTron | I am not using BT4 since I can't "snap" bars together |
| 19:37.59 | NeoTron | and due to (maybe fixed now?) scaling/positioning issues the bars move around between reloads of the ui |
| 19:39.16 | Gnarfoz | mine sit tight (on beta), but for some reason, snapping is now frowned upong |
| 19:39.17 | Gnarfoz | -g |
| 19:39.35 | Gnarfoz | but then, as was already said: how often do I move my bars around ;> |
| 19:39.51 | NeoTron | what I want is not snapping |
| 19:39.53 | NeoTron | really |
| 19:39.58 | NeoTron | but bars that are the size I choose |
| 19:40.10 | Gnarfoz | well, they are? |
| 19:40.12 | NeoTron | i don't want 12 button bars. I want, say, a 48 button bar |
| 19:40.19 | NeoTron | no they aren't |
| 19:40.23 | NeoTron | they are fixed to 12 |
| 19:40.31 | profalbert | you mean numbers |
| 19:40.31 | Gnarfoz | hm, in bt3 they aren't oO |
| 19:40.41 | NeoTron | they are fixed to 12 or below |
| 19:40.43 | Gnarfoz | they're limited to max of 12, but that's not the same as 'fixed' |
| 19:40.52 | NeoTron | which requires snapping |
| 19:41.01 | Gnarfoz | also YAY the enabled Achievements on EU ... some minutes ago? |
| 19:41.20 | nevcairiel | they should fix my freaking char on EU |
| 19:41.22 | NeoTron | I don't understand the arbitrary limitation on bar sizes set to 12 |
| 19:41.29 | NeoTron | Dominos is equally broken in that aspect |
| 19:41.38 | profalbert | NeoTron: only Bongos can do it, right? |
| 19:41.51 | NeoTron | Trinity could |
| 19:41.51 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: reuse of blizz action slots or something? 12x10 |
| 19:41.56 | nevcairiel | its a design decision NeoTron, all the blizzard paging-principles work with 12 button bars |
| 19:42.07 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: which is fine if you care about paging |
| 19:42.17 | nevcairiel | and to keep a somewhat compatible layout to blizzard, we do 12 button bars |
| 19:42.24 | nevcairiel | and tbh, i never needed something different, so why write it |
| 19:42.25 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:42.34 | Gnarfoz | what's keeping you from just putting as many as you need next to each other? |
| 19:42.38 | nevcairiel | same as tuller, he realized that he doesnt need bigger bars |
| 19:42.44 | nevcairiel | so he didnt include that in dominos |
| 19:42.48 | NeoTron | lack of snapping makes is annoying |
| 19:43.07 | Gnarfoz | uhm right, because aligning two non-opaque frames is hard? |
| 19:43.09 | NeoTron | if I can snap bars together it's fine. if I can't it just makes putting them in the right spot annoying and tedious |
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| 19:43.13 | Gnarfoz | you'll immediately see when they overlap |
| 19:43.18 | sylvanaar | Thrae it may require group of 3 or more, 2 ppl it doesnt show up, but some other ppl say they have seen it |
| 19:43.20 | NeoTron | pixel perfectly, yes |
| 19:43.25 | winkiller | no, that's true |
| 19:43.30 | winkiller | snapping is important |
| 19:43.49 | nevcairiel | not for me, or i would've dont it earlier =P |
| 19:43.50 | Gnarfoz | Daemona, Lyn: achievements working for you now, too? |
| 19:43.57 | NeoTron | I run 1920x1200. it's not easy to align them pixel perfectly in all directions |
| 19:43.57 | Aeyan | I don't use snapping because I'm pixel perfect anal, hehe |
| 19:43.58 | Daemona | yup |
| 19:44.12 | Gnarfoz | <@nevcairiel> they should fix my freaking char on EU <-- you're probably gonna get help, some time, I'm stuck until they wipe paladins :X |
| 19:44.12 | NeoTron | even worse, what if I want to move the 4 manually aligned bars? |
| 19:44.14 | Daemona | but coldarra got northrend world server down a second time in 15 minutes now |
| 19:44.29 | Gnarfoz | Daemona: I noticed. :X |
| 19:44.31 | Daemona | nevcairiel define "fix" |
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| 19:44.46 | Daemona | rough guess ... you dont see players and npcs? |
| 19:44.50 | Lyn | Gnarfoz, yes, working |
| 19:44.52 | nevcairiel | its stuck in front of CoT :( |
| 19:44.53 | Gnarfoz | he's stuck in No Man's Land, Daemona |
| 19:44.59 | Gnarfoz | or rather, where now is NML |
| 19:45.01 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:45.09 | Daemona | then you just need to login again and again until portet? |
| 19:45.22 | NeoTron | as a note, a friend reported complete lack of possess bar in BT4. we were doing the boss event where you get turned into something undead and he was unable to do anything |
| 19:45.22 | Daemona | or doesnt that work anymore? |
| 19:45.42 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: oO did he pick a bar to be the possess bar? |
| 19:45.49 | NeoTron | I don't know |
| 19:45.53 | NeoTron | doesn't it default to bar 1? |
| 19:45.55 | Gnarfoz | I've used that on The Prophet Taron'ja before |
| 19:45.58 | nevcairiel | Daemona. tried, didnt get it to port |
| 19:46.03 | Gnarfoz | (which is the boss you're referring to) |
| 19:46.20 | NeoTron | I know I have had it working in BT4 |
| 19:46.30 | NeoTron | of course in Dominos I had it not work and then suddently work w/o doing anything |
| 19:46.38 | NeoTron | not sure what caused that issue |
| 19:47.02 | Gnarfoz | blizz bugs. |
| 19:47.02 | Gnarfoz | :) |
| 19:47.11 | NeoTron | or tainting |
| 19:49.35 | nevcairiel | possessing works fine in beta BT4, at least for me |
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| 19:50.54 | nevcairiel | unless of course, you turn it off |
| 19:50.55 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:50.56 | winkiller | as in teron? |
| 19:51.01 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:51.01 | winkiller | or other possessing? |
| 19:51.04 | winkiller | coolio |
| 19:51.16 | nevcairiel | mind-control/teron/all vehicles |
| 19:51.22 | nevcairiel | other random shit =P |
| 19:51.28 | winkiller | didnt really bother me, I just made 3 macros |
| 19:51.33 | winkiller | for my G7-G9 keys |
| 19:51.44 | winkiller | was one of the fastest people on that |
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| 19:52.58 | Cheads | fast at making a macro? |
| 19:53.10 | NeoTron | WotLK has A LOT of things you possess |
| 19:53.25 | NeoTron | the last thing I did was to drive a shredder around chopping wood and killing stuff |
| 19:53.40 | nevcairiel | haha that quest was great |
| 19:53.51 | NeoTron | loved it |
| 19:54.02 | NeoTron | loved it so much I sent feedback on it - something I primarily do if the quest sucks or is broken |
| 19:54.20 | NeoTron | what made it fun was the sister quest to kill the harpys |
| 19:54.28 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 19:54.34 | nevcairiel | the wood chopping was boring |
| 19:54.35 | Carancu | the client crash every 5-10 seconds for me when I'm possesing something :S |
| 19:55.09 | Carancu | but the annoying thing is that the camera is turned backwards when logging in again, mouseturning with all the directions randomly inverted is hard. |
| 19:55.17 | NeoTron | so is it just me or does the default blizzard possess bar not change the key bindings? |
| 19:55.47 | NeoTron | like when I played my lock with metamorph, I had to press Ctrl-1 etc in the blizz UI |
| 19:55.51 | Carancu | my possesbar takes over the bar1 bindings, if that's what you mean. |
| 19:55.56 | NeoTron | and if I pressed 1 it broke my form |
| 19:56.20 | NeoTron | with default blizz UI. with bt4/dominos it works as expected replacing the bar |
| 19:58.37 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 19:58.48 | Gnarfoz | jumped off a cliff |
| 19:58.54 | Gnarfoz | didn't get the 65y achievement :X |
| 19:59.15 | Gnarfoz | seems they're discounting water by now ;) |
| 19:59.16 | NeoTron | I wonder how high 65y is and whether or not it counts if you hit water |
| 19:59.39 | Gnarfoz | 67y kills you. :> |
| 19:59.50 | Nimbal | I'm curious as I see this quite often... why do some authors wrap parts of the code in do / end ? Only to keep local variables local to this block, or has it another reason? |
| 19:59.50 | Gnarfoz | pretty close :D |
| 20:00.00 | Gnarfoz | that, mainly, I guess. |
| 20:00.14 | NeoTron | yeah for namespace reasons |
| 20:00.15 | Gnarfoz | perhaps they're also using an editor capable of folding blocks |
| 20:00.53 | Nimbal | Hm, ok |
| 20:01.18 | nevcairiel | just get some parachute cloak or something |
| 20:02.02 | Carancu | does that still count as falling then? |
| 20:02.18 | NeoTron | I suspect you might have to almost die but not quite |
| 20:02.25 | NeoTron | and water/slow fall etc doesn't count |
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| 20:02.49 | nevcairiel | falling then shifting to flight form before hitting the ground counts though |
| 20:02.55 | nevcairiel | at least used to |
| 20:03.04 | nevcairiel | my druid is bugged, if you remember .P |
| 20:03.24 | NivFreak | I got that 65 yard achievement my first day in beta |
| 20:03.30 | NivFreak | I forget what I fell off of |
| 20:03.34 | NivFreak | I figured I was a goner |
| 20:03.45 | Carancu | my druid finally got rid of the permanent track humanoids, happy that I don't have to see a whole red minimap anymore. |
| 20:03.46 | NivFreak | I think I was playing with heroic leap in shatt |
| 20:06.10 | Daemona | i just took my rogue and jumped from scryer rise in shatt ^^ |
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| 20:06.54 | NivFreak | yea, that's probably where I did it |
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| 20:13.05 | NeoTron | speaking of leaping, I was playing my DK in the BT murloc cave |
| 20:13.18 | NeoTron | and set him to aggressive to auto-tag the named one I was waiting for |
| 20:13.44 | NeoTron | immediately after he leaped across the chasm (well ditch or whatever) and tagged a normal murloc on the other side |
| 20:13.54 | NeoTron | it was rather comical but unintended |
| 20:14.21 | Carancu | that's agressive mode allright. |
| 20:14.26 | NeoTron | love the fact that these allows you to jump over things you can't walk across |
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| 20:15.23 | VonhintenHOME` | huh? what's this agressive mode shit? |
| 20:16.24 | Daemona | btw did anyone figure out how to get the threatmeter to show up? |
| 20:16.28 | Carancu | I wish Blizzard would add a option to set a range in which the pet would look for targets though, as it feels like that range is shifting around nowdays. |
| 20:16.33 | kadrahil | am i missing something or does buttonfacade not work with bt3? |
| 20:16.36 | NivFreak | NeoTron: this is one of the DK pets? |
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| 20:17.51 | Carancu | And there is no option to let your own pet ignore mouseover/mouseclicks in the worldframe, is there? |
| 20:19.11 | kenlyric | you mean, treat it like the player character, unclickable? |
| 20:21.02 | Carancu | exactly |
| 20:21.41 | Carancu | I don't really like that my pet always "steal" the mouseclicks on most things I try to loot. |
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| 20:44.43 | NeoTron | NivFreak: DK's only have one pet |
| 20:44.44 | NeoTron | well |
| 20:44.51 | NeoTron | I don't count the gargoyle |
| 20:45.23 | NivFreak | I've only played a DK to 58 and as blood |
| 20:45.27 | NivFreak | so I've had no pets yet |
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| 20:47.05 | AckisWork | lua>> foo = {}; foo[1] = true; if foo[2] and foo[2] == true then print("1") end |
| 20:47.05 | lua_bot | AckisWork: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '>' |
| 20:50.39 | NeoTron | err - it's a level 56 spell http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=46584 |
| 20:52.06 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: no output :P |
| 20:52.15 | NeoTron | I must assume you haven't gone back and trained any skills in your 3 levels? |
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| 20:52.20 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: I know :P |
| 20:54.01 | Pneumatus | id had to check if: foo[1] = false; if foo[1] == true then print("True") end; to output though :) |
| 20:54.14 | Pneumatus | i thought i might have to === |
| 20:54.49 | AckisWork | yah I wanted no output ;) |
| 20:55.51 | Nimbal | Um... is math.mod... gone? I'm told by Bugsack that I try to call a nil value when using it. |
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| 20:59.17 | Nimbal | Oh... it's just "mod", not "math.mod". Must have dreamt using it as math.mod. |
| 20:59.29 | Xinhuan | also don't ever use mod()... just use % operator |
| 20:59.37 | digmouse | magicmarker_data dont support other language? |
| 21:00.09 | Nimbal | Xinhuan: Why? Slowdown through function call? |
| 21:00.14 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 21:00.14 | Pneumatus | isnt % an integer modulus? |
| 21:00.18 | Nimbal | ok |
| 21:00.21 | Xinhuan | mod does the same thing |
| 21:00.31 | NeoTron | digmouse: it's language independant |
| 21:00.34 | Nimbal | Pneumatus: Suffices for my case, I only have integers |
| 21:00.37 | Xinhuan | 1.6 == mod(5, 3.4) |
| 21:00.38 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: from a memory perspective, does a single character string take up the same amount of space as a single digit number? |
| 21:00.46 | Zhinjio | or ... how can one compare those two things |
| 21:00.56 | Xinhuan | you convert one to the other format to compare |
| 21:01.09 | Zhinjio | do you happen to know? |
| 21:01.11 | Xinhuan | a single digit number takes up 4 bytes - as does any number |
| 21:01.11 | Pneumatus | looks like the % operator handles decimals anyway |
| 21:01.13 | NeoTron | basically the names of mobs is not stored in a localize-friendly manner but it's just a display issue since it's based on unit ID |
| 21:01.15 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 21:01.22 | Xinhuan | 5%3.4 == mod(5, 3.4) |
| 21:02.03 | Ellipsis | Zhinjio: if the same string is used in multiple places it shouldn't have any extra memory overhead beyond the first, though |
| 21:02.11 | digmouse | give up, it would be nightmare to translate the data |
| 21:02.38 | Zhinjio | Ellipsis: *nods* |
| 21:02.40 | Zhinjio | hugs Ellipsis |
| 21:02.48 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: what are you trying to achieve, as you could just grab the GUID of an npc to store, if thats suitable |
| 21:03.00 | Ellipsis | licks Zhinjio |
| 21:04.06 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: the npc IDs stored by all the wow databasing sites are along the lines of tonumber(string.sub(UnitGUID("target"), 6, 12), 16) |
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| 21:05.54 | NeoTron | -... |
| 21:05.56 | NeoTron | I am |
| 21:06.01 | NeoTron | that was you know my point |
| 21:06.41 | NeoTron | digmouse: it auto-changes names of mobs when detected |
| 21:06.58 | NeoTron | digmouse: "translating" would just mean saving name-eUS, name |
| 21:07.04 | NeoTron | err name-en_US etc |
| 21:08.26 | Kolie | Erroors on the mac compile now at... |
| 21:08.34 | Kolie | 43 |
| 21:09.14 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 21:11.01 | digmouse | NeoTron: u mean I dont need to change the data and it will work on zhCN? |
| 21:11.22 | Ellipsis | it will work fine |
| 21:11.37 | Ellipsis | it will just look funny :P |
| 21:12.18 | digmouse | sure :) will be on first Akama Shade attempt tonight, and the noob folks wont know which trash to kill first |
| 21:12.42 | digmouse | and I should be already dead when targeting them myself |
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| 21:17.32 | Nimbal | Is anyone here familiar with AceGUI 3 widget creation? |
| 21:17.48 | NeoTron | dig|sleep: it's correct |
| 21:18.08 | NeoTron | once you go into BT and mouse over mobs, the database will change the names from English to Chinese |
| 21:18.17 | NeoTron | ... or should... :) |
| 21:18.56 | dig|sleep | NeoTron: I'll test them tonight and shoot u some feedbacks |
| 21:19.13 | dig|sleep | gone sleep first, it's 5:20am now |
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| 21:41.18 | Kolie | 11 |
| 21:42.45 | Ellipsis | 17 |
| 21:43.05 | Ellipsis | loves the prime game! |
| 21:43.42 | VonhintenHOME` | I'll prime you! |
| 21:44.27 | Ellipsis | o.O |
| 21:45.40 | Xinhuan | if a then a(addon, foo) end |
| 21:46.56 | Aiiane | Kolie: ping |
| 21:48.33 | Kolie | hi aiiane, you win the war addon developer award. |
| 21:49.23 | Aiiane | o.o |
| 21:49.26 | Aiiane | anywho |
| 21:49.43 | Aiiane | ill make a ticket on it, but slight issue with the display of authors in the curse client |
| 21:49.59 | Kolie | Whats that? |
| 21:50.00 | Aiiane | "JunkDump by DaegalusAiiane" |
| 21:50.04 | Kolie | oh |
| 21:50.05 | Kolie | yea |
| 21:50.06 | Kolie | lol |
| 21:50.07 | Aiiane | it doesn't put any separation between authors |
| 21:50.14 | Kolie | they started sending multiple authors |
| 21:50.17 | Aiiane | wtb commas, plx ^^ |
| 21:50.17 | Kolie | didnt think that was sent. |
| 21:50.59 | Kolie | Yea they are in the code i thought.. |
| 21:51.06 | Aiiane | Maybe change the 'Author' field to 'Creator' instead |
| 21:51.10 | Kolie | lol |
| 21:51.18 | Kolie | im going to do a pastey |
| 21:51.20 | Kolie | for ( WarcraftPackage::AuthorList::const_iterator iter = m_pkg.Authors ().begin (); |
| 21:51.22 | Kolie | iter != m_pkg.Authors ().end(); |
| 21:51.24 | Kolie | iter++ ) |
| 21:51.26 | Kolie | { |
| 21:51.28 | Kolie | if ( iter != m_pkg.Authors ().begin() ) |
| 21:51.30 | Kolie | wxT(", "); |
| 21:51.32 | Kolie | htmlCode += wxString (iter->Name.c_str () , wxConvUTF8 ); |
| 21:51.33 | Kolie | my bad. |
| 21:51.48 | Kolie | fixed for next release. |
| 21:51.53 | Aiiane | :) |
| 21:53.09 | Kolie | 6 errors left in the main project mac build, all iterator problems. |
| 21:54.02 | Aiiane | oh, another issue |
| 21:54.11 | Aiiane | if you type something in the search box that would return no results |
| 21:54.15 | Aiiane | it doesn't clear the addon list |
| 21:54.18 | Aiiane | it just makes it unclickable |
| 21:54.22 | Aiiane | = very confusing |
| 21:54.36 | Kolie | Can you list the steps to repeat that? |
| 21:54.49 | Kolie | I dont experience the same behavior. |
| 21:55.03 | Aiiane | Try this |
| 21:55.09 | Aiiane | go to Find an Addon |
| 21:55.14 | Aiiane | select game = Warhammer |
| 21:55.21 | Aiiane | hit Get List |
| 21:55.32 | Kolie | downloading.. |
| 21:55.39 | Aiiane | after it pulls up the list (sadface at it pulling the entire wow index just for WAR :|) |
| 21:55.53 | Kolie | its cached after that |
| 21:56.02 | Kolie | Anyways, loaded. |
| 21:56.11 | Aiiane | then try typing "blue" in the search box |
| 21:56.21 | Kolie | ok the list is empty. |
| 21:56.22 | Aiiane | or even just 'b' |
| 21:56.30 | Aiiane | for me, it doesn't empty |
| 21:56.37 | Kolie | <3 letters it wont search |
| 21:56.41 | Kolie | you have to hit enter. |
| 21:56.47 | Kolie | 4 letters, it will, as in blue |
| 21:56.49 | Aiiane | I am |
| 21:57.04 | Aiiane | the scrollbar disappears |
| 21:57.07 | Aiiane | but there's still text in the box |
| 21:57.14 | Kolie | The bottom box? |
| 21:57.20 | Aiiane | no, the list area |
| 21:57.30 | Aiiane | until I drag it off the screen, at which point it finally redraws |
| 21:57.31 | Kolie | I dont experience the behavior your describing. |
| 21:57.38 | Aiiane | seems like it's just not redrawing properly |
| 21:58.00 | Kolie | What operating system? |
| 21:58.08 | Aiiane | XP 32bit |
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| 21:58.53 | Aiiane | as soon as I drag the window to where it's not really onscreen, and then move it back, to force it to re-WM_PAINT the window |
| 21:58.57 | Aiiane | it displays properly |
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| 22:00.39 | Kolie | Its probably an error in wx, ill have to report it. |
| 22:00.50 | Primer | I bet it's not |
| 22:00.53 | Primer | $20 |
| 22:01.09 | AckisWork | lua>> local _, _, ID = string.find("|cffffffff|Henchant:44157|h[Engineering: Turbo-Charged Flying Machine]|h|r", "enchant:(%d+)");print(ID) |
| 22:01.09 | lua_bot | AckisWork: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '>' |
| 22:01.23 | AckisWork | gah |
| 22:01.27 | AckisWork | lua> local _, _, ID = string.find("|cffffffff|Henchant:44157|h[Engineering: Turbo-Charged Flying Machine]|h|r", "enchant:(%d+)");print(ID) |
| 22:01.28 | lua_bot | AckisWork: 44157 |
| 22:03.09 | Kolie | Primer, with the number of bugfixes i've sent wx, you'd lose that bet ;) |
| 22:03.48 | Primer | Kolie: I'm just always skeptical when it comes to blaming something other than one's own code |
| 22:03.53 | Primer | in fact, I have a theory |
| 22:03.59 | Primer | it's called the DFP theory |
| 22:04.03 | Primer | http://sh.nu/dfp |
| 22:04.08 | Kolie | I am the first to blame myself, ask anyone at curse. |
| 22:04.50 | Kolie | But when I use a wx control, and my interaction with it is .additem, .redrawlist, its kinda hard to be at fault. |
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| 22:05.39 | Primer | I suppose |
| 22:06.31 | Kolie | esp. when it behaves fine on all the development machines. |
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| 22:06.33 | Zhinjio | question for y'all who raid lead... |
| 22:06.49 | Primer | Kolie: Do you like my DFP theory though? :) |
| 22:07.05 | Kolie | It applies to a majority of programmers I know. |
| 22:07.08 | Zhinjio | is there something documented somewhere, or are you willing to share the information in your head about what makes up effective group composition in raids |
| 22:07.12 | Kolie | Some are above 90% even. |
| 22:07.20 | Primer | hehe |
| 22:07.44 | Kolie | I think there is some gene expressing itself more so in some then others. |
| 22:07.46 | Primer | Zhinjio: I'd have to say that'll vary based on the instance |
| 22:07.49 | Tinyboom | Kolie: huh? where did 2.0 of CC go? |
| 22:08.00 | Kolie | Tinyboom? |
| 22:08.13 | Tinyboom | no on curseforge project page atm afaik... |
| 22:08.16 | Tinyboom | not* |
| 22:08.21 | Kolie | wardb.com/client.aspx |
| 22:08.38 | Kolie | If you had the old client, it should upgrade tho? |
| 22:08.57 | Primer | Zhinjio: and even a specific fight in an instance |
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| 22:09.22 | Primer | Zhinjio: obviously, an 'effective raid composition' == one that downs the boss |
| 22:09.28 | Aiiane | nods |
| 22:09.34 | Aiiane | there's no single effective raid comp |
| 22:09.51 | Aiiane | but in general, your best resource for advice is probably the threads dedicated to it over at the EJ forums or the like |
| 22:10.56 | Tinyboom | ahh, it updated without me noticing :p 2.0.0.1 right? |
| 22:11.06 | Aiiane | yes |
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| 22:15.39 | VonhintenHOME` | effective raid composition is one that can down a boss multiple times |
| 22:15.57 | VonhintenHOME` | not luck out once and never do it again |
| 22:17.26 | Kolie | yea 2.0.0.1 |
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| 22:18.30 | Ixnorp | Is there a version of Grid which functions on WotLK beta? I can't seem to find any information about it at all. |
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| 22:19.22 | Ixnorp | Or if this is the wrong place to ask, getting pointed in the right direction would be nice. |
| 22:21.18 | [dRaCo] | you could check if there's a version in some branch on the svn |
| 22:22.17 | Gnarfoz | first question would be: does the normal version *not* work? |
| 22:22.34 | Gnarfoz | because, aside from auras, for example PitBull "just worked" (tm) |
| 22:23.02 | Dashkal | Ixnorp: there's a branch in the svn, but I haven't had time to check if it works yet |
| 22:26.30 | CIA-25 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81327 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 22:26.30 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:26.30 | CIA-25 | - Removed addon.NumberofRecipes, replaced with #addon.RecipeListing |
| 22:26.30 | CIA-25 | - Work on switching database structure started |
| 22:26.31 | CIA-25 | - Basically this is going to be a complete rewrite. It won't work right now however :P Good thing this is a branch eh? |
| 22:26.34 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
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| 22:26.56 | Pneumatus | sounds painful :s |
| 22:27.00 | Stanzilla | omg rewrite |
| 22:27.12 | Pneumatus | planning on rearranging the database so the flags make more sense? |
| 22:27.16 | Ixnorp | Gnarfoz: yes, the latest beta of Grid on files.wowace does not work on the latest patch of WotLK |
| 22:27.27 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: yes, there's a lot of database restructuring |
| 22:27.33 | Aiiane | oh, Kolie, also - why does File -> Exit not actually exit the client |
| 22:27.45 | Ixnorp | I dont know why because bug grabber/sack reports no Grid related errors |
| 22:27.45 | Aiiane | I can understand the window's upperright X button closing to tray |
| 22:27.47 | Pneumatus | last time i checked Grid wasnt working because the UTF8 lib is dicked up |
| 22:27.55 | AckisWork | also with what I've learnt since I originally wrote the mod, a lot of inefficient things can be redone and best practices followed |
| 22:27.58 | Aiiane | but if I do File -> Exit in a program, I sure as hell want it to stop running |
| 22:27.59 | Pneumatus | i just copied the one from RatingBuster and it worked fine |
| 22:28.06 | Gnarfoz | Aiiane: I can't. :X however, some people think it's best to break UI design guidelines :p |
| 22:28.17 | Ixnorp | Pneumatus: I'll try that |
| 22:28.51 | Pneumatus | Grid uses an external UTF8 lib on their own site, and appears to be the same one RatingBuster uses, but RatingBuster uploads it straight to wowace svn |
| 22:28.57 | Aiiane | Gnarfoz: I can understand it, you can close a window without closing a program |
| 22:29.01 | Aiiane | but "Exit" is not "Close" |
| 22:29.10 | Aiiane | File -> Exit should be "program stops running" |
| 22:30.14 | AckisWork | Pneumatus, Stanzilla: Once this rewrite is complete the release from it will be 1.0 with the new GUI and about 60 different filtering options http://geo.trippy.org/gallery2/d/2376-1/arl_0022.jpg |
| 22:30.20 | AckisWork | Aiiane: I complained to him about that already |
| 22:30.34 | Stanzilla | nom nom |
| 22:31.17 | Pneumatus | have you got a new data structure in mind then Ackis? |
| 22:31.56 | AckisWork | yes |
| 22:32.05 | AckisWork | it's documented in comments in the main file |
| 22:33.45 | Aiiane | AckisWork: did you make a ticket for it that I can vote up? |
| 22:33.48 | Pneumatus | oh, just the SV format, not the way the recipies are inserted then? |
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| 22:34.25 | AckisWork | Aiiane: nope |
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| 22:35.31 | Pneumatus | i guess you must at least be planning to change the flags you apply to each recpie to let them be filtered anyway |
| 22:35.36 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: both have changed actually, scroll down in the branch to find function addon:addTradeSkill http://svn.wowace.com/wowace/branches/AckisRecipeList/NewDB/AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua |
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| 22:36.51 | Kolie | hihi |
| 22:37.45 | Pneumatus | Ackis: did you get to grips with the data miner, or is that in progress, or did you want more eyes on it? :) |
| 22:38.16 | Zhinjio | I believe its in progress. |
| 22:38.20 | AckisWork | it's "in progress" |
| 22:38.22 | CIA-25 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r81328 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (CHANGELOG.txt RecipeDB/ARL-RoguePoison.lua database.xml): |
| 22:38.22 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 22:38.22 | CIA-25 | - Added change log file just to keep track of what's going on |
| 22:38.23 | CIA-25 | - Removed references to the Rogue Poison file |
| 22:38.23 | CIA-25 | - Feedback requested: do this for Wrath only or consider non-Wrath clients? |
| 22:38.26 | CIA-25 | - Dry-coded (compiles with luac -p) |
| 22:38.27 | Zhinjio | I think some of what motivated the change in db structure is the dataminer stuff |
| 22:39.42 | Aiiane | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/231-selecting-exit-from-file-menu-should-terminate-the/ <-- go vote, Ackis :P |
| 22:39.49 | Pneumatus | also, Ackis, i don't know if its relavent, but if you used a bitmask field for your flags you could just have a single flag field rather than a monster table |
| 22:40.00 | Zhinjio | heheheheee |
| 22:40.17 | Pneumatus | obviously it would have to be as wide as the number of flags, so 39 bits at present |
| 22:40.25 | Zhinjio | I've been trying to get him to move over to the dark side of bitmasks, but I don't think he'll bite. |
| 22:40.30 | AckisWork | oh God |
| 22:40.31 | AckisWork | no |
| 22:40.41 | Pneumatus | bitmasks > * though :D |
| 22:40.48 | AckisWork | not in this case |
| 22:41.01 | AckisWork | bitwise operations = a lot of work in lua |
| 22:41.05 | Zhinjio | meh |
| 22:41.25 | Dashkal | file->exit doesn't exit? *thwaps Kolie* |
| 22:41.25 | Zhinjio | anyway, I've said my piece in that discussion. I'll go along with your choice either way. |
| 22:41.26 | AckisWork | creating the bit strings = make me think in weird ways |
| 22:41.34 | Aiiane | that, and it's a lot easier to screw up other data if you mess up changing a value |
| 22:41.43 | Zhinjio | does it tickle you in the ticklish place? |
| 22:41.50 | Pneumatus | oh, lua doesnt have bitwise operators? |
| 22:41.56 | Zhinjio | yes it does. |
| 22:42.00 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: it does |
| 22:42.01 | Aiiane | i.e. if you have a.foo and a.bar, and you accidentally do a.boo = 2, it doesn't screw up a.bar |
| 22:42.03 | Zhinjio | bit.bxor, etc. |
| 22:42.16 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: I started writing it to use bit string about 3x but the implementation just wasn't working out to be easily readable/implementable |
| 22:42.23 | Xinhuan | it has bitwise functions, just not the operators |
| 22:42.45 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: settle down, man... I'm not going to try to convince you anymore. |
| 22:42.49 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 22:42.52 | AckisWork | lol |
| 22:42.56 | AckisWork | I'm not getting upset :P |
| 22:42.59 | JerleMinara | so much anger |
| 22:43.01 | JerleMinara | where is the love |
| 22:43.53 | AckisWork | I just didn't wnat to have a function: foo(x,y,z, bit.or(bit.lshift(1,5),bit.lshift(1,8),bit.lshift(1,20),bit.lshift(1,30)) as it made me go cross-eyed |
| 22:44.12 | Kolie | file exit what? |
| 22:44.12 | Aiiane | well ideally if you were doing bitwise fields |
| 22:44.30 | Aiiane | you'd just define something like GET_FLAG_STATE(bitfield, pos) |
| 22:44.33 | Kolie | Dashkal, thats not file exit, thats client ext. |
| 22:44.36 | Aiiane | and SET_FLAG_STATE(bitfield, pos) |
| 22:44.40 | Xinhuan | lua> 2 and 3 |
| 22:44.40 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 3 |
| 22:44.45 | Kolie | and if you want it to do that go to configuration, close on x, and then hit the x |
| 22:45.02 | Zhinjio | or COMPARE_FLAG_STATE( flags, FLAG_IS_WEAPON ) |
| 22:45.05 | Zhinjio | or whatever. |
| 22:45.09 | Zhinjio | thats nice and readable. |
| 22:45.12 | Dashkal | Kolie: I'm just commenting in regards to that ticket mentioned |
| 22:45.12 | Xinhuan | not much you can do, u need the functions |
| 22:45.20 | Kolie | What ticket? |
| 22:45.39 | Dashkal | @ticket curse-client 231 |
| 22:45.40 | AckisWork | anyways I'm going home :P be back in 30-45 mins :P |
| 22:45.40 | Repo | Dashkal: No project found that matches 'curse-client' |
| 22:45.40 | Aiiane | @ticket curse-client-beta 231 |
| 22:45.41 | Repo | Aiiane: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/231-selecting-exit-from-file-menu-should-terminate-the/. 231 - Selecting Exit from File menu should terminate the program. Reported by: Aiiane. Type: Defect. Updated: 4 minutes ago. Status: New. Priority: High. Votes: +6. Comments: 1 |
| 22:45.44 | AckisWork | ~kiss Ackis |
| 22:45.45 | purl | ACTION forces Ackis to give Adirelle a big kiss on the forhead |
| 22:45.51 | Dashkal | that one |
| 22:45.53 | AckisWork | haha |
| 22:46.11 | Kolie | There is no File menu. |
| 22:46.19 | Aiiane | Client then, sorry |
| 22:46.21 | Dashkal | is there an "Exit" in the first menu on the left? |
| 22:46.26 | Aiiane | I'll edit it to the proper text string |
| 22:46.40 | Pneumatus | if you're not going to use bitmasks, it may at least be worth having a bunch of variables with the flag numbers, so you can see at a glance what flags are being applied to a pattern |
| 22:46.49 | Pneumatus | rather than having to lookup a bunch of numbers |
| 22:46.52 | Kolie | The "really close" methid I just put in was Really close on X |
| 22:47.14 | Aiiane | Kolie: not acceptable |
| 22:47.19 | Dashkal | basically if you have a menu item called "Exit" in the standard that doesn't actually terminate the app, that's a Bad Thing (tm) |
| 22:47.26 | Kolie | Ok ill rename it. |
| 22:47.29 | Dashkal | in the standard location |
| 22:47.30 | Aiiane | no |
| 22:47.30 | Pneumatus | FLAG_HORDE, FLAG_ALLIANCE, FLAG_TRAINER, FLAG_VENDOR, ..., FLAG_AMMO |
| 22:47.33 | Aiiane | don't rename it |
| 22:47.37 | Aiiane | make it actually freaking exit |
| 22:47.42 | Kolie | I wanted a minimize there, not an exit. |
| 22:47.48 | Kolie | That was my intention atleast. |
| 22:47.51 | Aiiane | then add an exit option as well |
| 22:48.12 | Aiiane | there should ALWAYS be a way to fully exit no matter what your options are set to |
| 22:48.24 | Kolie | There is. |
| 22:48.27 | Aiiane | without having to go click on some icon in the task tray |
| 22:48.31 | Dashkal | ^^ |
| 22:48.31 | Kolie | Not that its what you want. |
| 22:49.19 | Aiiane | Kolie: You're effectively writing a program that "feels" like spyware to most people |
| 22:49.20 | Dashkal | fires a standard UI practices textbook at Kolie by way of potato cannon |
| 22:49.23 | Aiiane | because of the UI decisions you're making |
| 22:49.34 | Kolie | I was told to make it minimize. Not exit. |
| 22:49.41 | Kolie | I know what standard UI practices are. |
| 22:49.42 | Aiiane | by who. |
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| 22:49.47 | Aiiane | so that I can bitch to them. |
| 22:50.01 | Dashkal | trust--; |
| 22:50.26 | Pneumatus | if applications ever (X) to tray, they at least have an option you can disable that behaviour |
| 22:50.32 | Pneumatus | to make them exit completely |
| 22:50.34 | Aiiane | X button -> tray is okay |
| 22:50.42 | Kolie | There is an option to disable it Pneumatus |
| 22:50.44 | Aiiane | "Exit" menu option -> tray is not |
| 22:50.46 | Aiiane | period |
| 22:50.49 | Aiiane | regardless of options |
| 22:51.00 | Adirelle | I hate the current curse website (not curseforge, just curse), there is almost no way to find those damn "login" and "logout" links |
| 22:51.14 | Kolie | Yea I lost the logout link today. |
| 22:51.16 | Xinhuan | just have 2 options |
| 22:51.29 | Xinhuan | "File -> Exit to tray" and "File -> Full exit" |
| 22:51.31 | Xinhuan | or something |
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| 22:51.41 | Aiiane | yes, that's what I said Xinhuan |
| 22:51.44 | Dashkal | Minimize to Tray / Exit |
| 22:51.46 | Kolie | Xinhuan, thats what I was going to do. |
| 22:51.49 | Aiiane | having a menu option to go to tray is fine |
| 22:51.57 | Aiiane | *not* having a menu option to fully exit isn't |
| 22:52.51 | Aiiane | (15:49:39) Kolie: I wanted a minimize there, not an exit. |
| 22:52.59 | Aiiane | ^-- that didn't sound like you were going to make 2 menu options |
| 22:53.07 | Kolie | I name things bad. |
| 22:53.13 | Kolie | The update button is really reinstall. |
| 22:53.29 | Pneumatus | fwiw, i can never find the CF logout button because i look for it where the curse one is |
| 22:53.37 | Pneumatus | i only expect there to be a useless flag in the top-right |
| 22:54.36 | Adirelle | ^^ |
| 22:55.17 | Pneumatus | im still not entirely sure why anyone would want the ability to change language ad-hoc |
| 22:55.45 | Kolie | If your browsing in english, but you dont understand part of it |
| 22:55.48 | Kolie | you can switch to native. |
| 22:55.59 | Pneumatus | its not like it takes you back to the same page you were on when you change language, anyway |
| 22:56.04 | Kolie | Most non english people prefer the english ones. |
| 22:56.34 | Kolie | Pneumatus: I thought it did save the current view. |
| 22:56.36 | Pneumatus | it just takes you to curse.<locale> |
| 22:56.45 | Kolie | oh for curse.com |
| 22:57.15 | Pneumatus | on CF the only flag that shows for me is the US flag |
| 22:57.39 | Kolie | I was thinking wow/wardb |
| 22:58.25 | Pneumatus | yeh, i guess it makes a little more sense there, where you actually have the same content in another language |
| 22:59.49 | Pneumatus | but the stupid flag is in a completely different place on wowdb, so any recollection you have of the location the curse group place the flag is lost anyway |
| 23:00.04 | Pneumatus | or maybe, if its on the left its useful, if its on the right its useless |
| 23:00.49 | ckknight | hehe, yea, curseforge is English only, we still have the flag, though |
| 23:01.48 | Adirelle | night |
| 23:01.54 | Dashkal | laters |
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| 23:06.36 | Pneumatus | Ackis: does the ARL branch really compile? :P |
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| 23:23.19 | Ackis | Pneumatus: it doesn't give me any errors :P |
| 23:23.34 | Ackis | but it's not gonna work worth shit |
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| 23:40.47 | kokolores | hello, could anybody help me with quartz? the colors for the castbars are much darker that i have configured them in the color setup window...i choose bright red and it turns out to be dark red on the actual castbar |
| 23:41.34 | Ellipsis | change the texture |
| 23:42.18 | kokolores | i have tried all out and actually didnt change it from the one i had before |
| 23:42.53 | kokolores | i replaced my addons from a backup and since then its that way, i ve had it before and forgot how i had fixed it before |
| 23:43.29 | thul | Ellipsis: girls are weird |
| 23:43.34 | Ellipsis | I agree |
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| 23:49.56 | Ackis | lua> foo = {1,2,3};return #foo |
| 23:49.57 | lua_bot | Ackis: 3 |
| 23:50.11 | Ackis | lua> foo = {["1"],["2"],["3"]};return #foo |
| 23:50.11 | lua_bot | Ackis: luabot:1: '=' expected near ',' |
| 23:50.29 | Ackis | lua> foo = {["1"] = {},["2"] = {},["3"] = {}};return #foo |
| 23:50.30 | lua_bot | Ackis: 0 |
| 23:50.36 | Ackis | well I'll be damned |
| 23:50.55 | Ackis | or maybe I'm foobared? ahahahaha |
| 23:51.29 | Zhinjio | # only works on numerically indexed tables |
| 23:51.35 | Zhinjio | ["1"] isn't numeric |
| 23:51.52 | Ellipsis | ~lart Ackis |
| 23:51.52 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Ackis in half |
| 23:52.17 | Ackis | so how does one get said size of a non-numerical table/ |
| 23:52.34 | Zhinjio | loop on pairs |
| 23:52.37 | Zhinjio | increment counter |
| 23:52.39 | Ackis | shoves his sword down Ellipsis' throat. |
| 23:52.53 | Ellipsis | ooh, kinky |
| 23:52.55 | Zhinjio | whoa. dude. I don't ever wanna see your "sword" |
| 23:53.00 | NivFreak | sigh |
| 23:53.01 | Ackis | ahhh wrong sword! |
| 23:53.14 | NivFreak | I wish blizzard would just be more clear about the timeframe of thier xpac |
| 23:53.28 | NivFreak | I'm having a hard time keeping people motivated because of the chaotic info they leak |
| 23:53.38 | NivFreak | some people think 3.0 is coming in 2 weeks |
| 23:53.50 | NivFreak | which is the most laughable thing I've ever heard |
| 23:53.56 | Zhinjio | Tell them february |
| 23:53.57 | NivFreak | apparently they forgot what PTR means |
| 23:54.02 | Ackis | lua> foo = {["1"] = {},["2"] = {},["3"] = {}};for i,k in pairs(foo) do print(k) end |
| 23:54.02 | lua_bot | Ackis: table: 0x8083740, table: 0x8073a40, table: 0x8073a18 |
| 23:54.17 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: yea, that's pretty close to what I suspect, but without blue words people are just stubborn |
| 23:54.33 | kokolores | some ppl said it will happen kinda same time as warhammer is released |
| 23:54.33 | Zhinjio | is not a winnable situation |
| 23:54.41 | NivFreak | kokolores: not a chance |
| 23:54.49 | Zhinjio | option 1) it will release when its done |
| 23:54.54 | NivFreak | yes |
| 23:54.57 | NivFreak | and it's not done |
| 23:54.59 | Zhinjio | they don't like that, tell 2) february, like last time |
| 23:54.59 | NivFreak | or even close |
| 23:55.16 | Zhinjio | option 3) stfu and get back in your raid group, nub |
| 23:55.41 | Ackis | option 3's Ellipsis |
| 23:56.23 | Ellipsis | om nom nom |
| 23:56.28 | Ackis | lol |
| 23:58.42 | CIA-25 | 03ackis * r81329 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 23:58.42 | CIA-25 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:58.42 | CIA-25 | - What was once broke is now unbroke. |
| 23:58.42 | CIA-25 | ~botsnack |
| 23:58.42 | purl | :), CIA-25 |
| 23:58.49 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: 03Mera-92869 * r21 10/trunk/ (. OneCompanion.lua frames/templates.lua opts/options.lua): |
| 23:58.49 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: OneCompanion: |
| 23:58.49 | CIA-25 | OneCompanion: -bugfix + code cleanup |
| 23:59.59 | CIA-25 | 03pericles 07WotLK * r81330 10ShockAndAwe/ (4 files): |
| 23:59.59 | CIA-25 | ShockAndAwe: - |
| 23:59.59 | CIA-25 | Version 2.12 |
| 23:59.59 | CIA-25 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.59 | CIA-25 | <PROTECTED> |
