| 00:00.09 | NeoTron | lol ok |
| 00:00.25 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: it won't persist, if the do block is run again the local will be re-declared |
| 00:00.25 | CIA-58 | 03morgalm * r81987 10MorgDKP/ (5 files): |
| 00:00.25 | CIA-58 | MorgDKP: |
| 00:00.25 | Gnarfoz | (is this about fixing bossblock for 3.0.2/beta?) |
| 00:00.26 | NeoTron | well depending on live raiding success rate tonight I'll test it, or not |
| 00:00.26 | CIA-58 | - another ruRU fix |
| 00:00.28 | CIA-58 | - typo fix |
| 00:00.30 | CIA-58 | - fix member not being found for waitlist |
| 00:00.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah, BTDT 3 weeks ago, just wasn't compatible with live because I suck |
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| 00:00.34 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: yes |
| 00:00.42 | vhaarr | NeoTron: yeah it should fix bossblock for 3.0 |
| 00:00.46 | Zhinjio | nods. what I thought. |
| 00:01.00 | Gnarfoz | it also works on live, contrary to my fix I never commited because of just that ;) |
| 00:01.05 | Zhinjio | which means that in the case of that data specifically, its then useless. It has to be persistent for as long as the user is logged in |
| 00:01.18 | NeoTron | naxx-10 + BW seems to work pretty well so far |
| 00:01.19 | Zhinjio | and not recalculated every time they open a frame. |
| 00:01.33 | Zhinjio | although... hmm, I suppose thats an argument over memory vs. cpu |
| 00:01.42 | Zhinjio | grump. |
| 00:03.44 | Gnarfoz | (I did: http://ace.pastey.net/95324 because the hook ate up the frame reference, vhaarr's solution is obviously lightyears ahead of mine, technically. ;D) |
| 00:04.42 | CIA-58 | 03phanx * r81988 10TooltipExchange/TooltipExchange.toc: |
| 00:04.42 | CIA-58 | TooltipExchange: |
| 00:04.43 | CIA-58 | - Add "Updated by" notice to TOC. |
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| 00:11.44 | orionshock | Tekkub: ping; you said at one point that there should be a common method for sharing tradeskill links? did u have one in mind? |
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| 00:18.15 | Primer | Seeing that there's so many people here, I wonder what are the chances of there being someone on from my realm? Gorgonnash |
| 00:19.39 | fewyn | ponders checking out the curse client again |
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| 00:20.46 | Trell_ | Does anyone know whether Blizzard have categorically confirmed or denied whether you'll be able to download any or preferably all of the WotLK client prior to or at the release date, and just upgrade via a code someone else buys for you? |
| 00:21.53 | Pkekyo| | bwahah, mate of mine thinks that pimping his xbox stuff is a step -away- from nerdyness :P |
| 00:24.09 | Arrowmaster | Trell_: you could use the TBC beta client on live if you changed the server info |
| 00:25.29 | Antiarc | hahahahahaha |
| 00:25.29 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/experiencewii |
| 00:26.25 | NivFreak | I'm curious to see if they keep the server side macros/keybindings in when wrath hits |
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| 00:26.43 | NivFreak | and for the love of god, can they fix the fact that I lose my scaling setting 50% of the time |
| 00:27.54 | Gnarfoz | wtf is gmodules.com and why is that yt page blank if I don't allow JS from there Oo |
| 00:28.07 | Gnarfoz | actually, why is that page blank, period? ;D |
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| 00:28.26 | Antiarc | It's a "special" youtube page |
| 00:28.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah, a blank one oO |
| 00:29.21 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 00:29.39 | fewyn | i'm trying to get the curse client beta to install updated addons from curseforge |
| 00:29.45 | fewyn | but it's refusing to do it |
| 00:31.07 | Gnarfoz | wtf? |
| 00:31.08 | Gnarfoz | http://npsalhg4-a.gmodules.com/ig/ifr?url=http://facebook.gspsf.com/~wii/google_gadget.xml?gadheight=1500&hl=en_US |
| 00:31.43 | Phanx | Anyone else having trouble making SVN commits? I can commit to one addon (TooltipExchange), but not to another (FeedMachine); I get an "authorization failed" error on the latter. :( |
| 00:31.49 | Gnarfoz | http://facebook.gspsf.com/~wii/ < hmm |
| 00:32.04 | fewyn | and curseclient.exe is crashing everytime i open it now |
| 00:32.09 | fewyn | searches for kolie |
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| 00:32.36 | Gnarfoz | why is that page pretending to be something else than it is? oO |
| 00:32.47 | Trell_ | Arrowmaster; so as long as I have the WotLK beta client fully patched, and change the server info (through the txt file is it?) - and had a proper legit store bought code, I could use that? |
| 00:33.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah probably |
| 00:33.08 | NivFreak | your account is what get supgraded for access |
| 00:33.11 | Arrowmaster | the way to change the server info changed though |
| 00:33.13 | vhaarr | Phanx: whoever owns that addon probably restricted who can commit to it and not |
| 00:33.58 | Phanx | I doubt it, as I've been the only one committing to it recently. |
| 00:34.00 | Trell_ | that would be awesome. I'm lamenting the no downloadable rubbish, since I live out in the sticks, and theres nowhere that will be opening at midnight that I could conceivably reach, and I don't want to be the player that gets left behind :) |
| 00:34.02 | Trell_ | sad, isn't it. |
| 00:34.04 | Arrowmaster | or hes trying to use svn.wowace.com instead of dev.wowace.com |
| 00:34.14 | vhaarr | what Arrowmaster said |
| 00:34.26 | vhaarr | Phanx: make sure you checked it out from dev |
| 00:34.37 | Phanx | Nope, I've deleted and redone the checkout 3 different times, defintely checking out from dev. |
| 00:34.39 | Gnarfoz | also, what client are you using |
| 00:34.42 | Phanx | TortoiseSVN |
| 00:35.00 | Gnarfoz | (even tortoise would be more verbose if it was svn vs. dev) |
| 00:35.41 | Phanx | Yeah, all I get is "Commit failed (details follow):" followed by "Authorizaton failed" |
| 00:36.26 | Phanx | I made a pointless toc tweak and committed to TooltipExchange, worked fine. |
| 00:36.46 | Phanx | Could one of you just add "embeds.xml" to the FeedMachine .toc for me? |
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| 00:38.50 | CIA-58 | 03gnarfoz * r81989 10FeedMachine/FeedMachine.toc: FeedMachine: added embeds.xml to toc |
| 00:38.55 | Gnarfoz | seems to work fine? |
| 00:39.21 | Gnarfoz | forgot to start the commit note with "FeedMachine", maybe? |
| 00:40.30 | Phanx | Negative :P |
| 00:40.49 | Phanx | and I've seen the error message for doing that |
| 00:41.16 | Gnarfoz | well, try cli svn, then, I just did it with that |
| 00:42.21 | Phanx | I'm not too concerned... the Big Transition is coming soon, and I'm not really developing on the SVN here right now anyway, so I don't anticipate needing to make many commits in the next couple days |
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| 00:43.32 | Phanx | Gnarfoz: thanks for committing that, btw |
| 00:45.19 | Gnarfoz | <+Antiarc> http://www.youtube.com/experiencewii <-- iframe abuse :X |
| 00:48.57 | Arrowmaster | our feral tank just came to the raid speced moonkin with 6/8 T6 ungemmed (with uncut gems to put in it) because he said he was told to but now nobody knows who said it |
| 00:49.36 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: nice |
| 00:49.57 | NeoTron | and he doesn't know either? |
| 00:50.09 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 00:50.26 | Arrowmaster | he really does have 6/8 T6 for boomkin as a feral tank though |
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| 00:50.59 | Arrowmaster | i think that would make some people cry |
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| 00:51.55 | NeoTron | why? |
| 00:52.05 | NeoTron | I mean I believe we have druids that have all three sets |
| 00:52.16 | vithos | all of our druids have are close to 24/24 |
| 00:52.21 | vithos | -have |
| 00:53.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah so does this guy, except he had them as tokens in his bank still |
| 00:53.10 | vithos | archimonde helms are the rare ones |
| 00:53.19 | sylvanaar | what do you use to process the combat log out of game? |
| 00:53.26 | sylvanaar | i mean personally use |
| 00:53.28 | NivFreak | We get 2xvanq on 90% of our kills |
| 00:53.29 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:53.40 | NivFreak | 8% of the time is 3xvanq! |
| 00:53.41 | vithos | sylvanaar, wowcardioraid and wowwebstats.com |
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| 00:56.46 | NeoTron | WWS |
| 00:56.56 | NeoTron | I don't process "personally" though |
| 00:57.01 | NeoTron | just guildially. |
| 00:57.19 | Pkekyo| | http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w255/Fin2233/flagstickerjv0-1.jpg what gives? |
| 00:57.41 | NeoTron | no.. clue |
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| 00:59.06 | NivFreak | so did they do anything interesting with the beta downtime today? |
| 01:00.22 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 01:00.57 | fewyn | house was great |
| 01:01.01 | fewyn | and no NivFreak |
| 01:02.07 | NivFreak | lame |
| 01:02.17 | NivFreak | I want TG to work again :P |
| 01:02.25 | NeoTron | I want... a different DK flying ount |
| 01:02.28 | NeoTron | s/ount/mount/ |
| 01:03.38 | NivFreak | NeoTron: you're getting one, but at least it doesn't affect the functionality ;P |
| 01:03.45 | NeoTron | I am aware |
| 01:03.52 | NeoTron | that's why I want the patch because I want to see what it is |
| 01:04.05 | NeoTron | and as stated before the DK flying mount is buggy as heck |
| 01:04.13 | NeoTron | it let's you use it when you're already mounted |
| 01:04.36 | NeoTron | in dalaran, underwater (those don't result in you being mounted), in combat (and getting mounted) etc |
| 01:04.37 | sylvanaar | i cant read it in raw form |
| 01:04.51 | sylvanaar | wws only is for live |
| 01:05.04 | fewyn | wws sucks, it doesn't work for beta yet :( |
| 01:05.25 | fewyn | did naxx the other night (got a few bosses down) and i went lol i wonder if it'll get parsed |
| 01:05.27 | fewyn | and it didn't |
| 01:05.31 | fewyn | i was slightly sad |
| 01:05.41 | NivFreak | WWS sucks even for the things it does work on |
| 01:05.42 | fewyn | any alternatives tho? |
| 01:05.53 | sylvanaar | im trying this chinese site, prolly steal my account |
| 01:05.57 | NivFreak | someone else please write a good replacement so I can pay you instead lossendi the fuck head |
| 01:06.01 | fewyn | I'd like to keep my stats longer than wws allows |
| 01:06.08 | nocts|work | Link to the latest talent calculators? Not sure if Blizzard's are the official WOTLK current talent trees |
| 01:06.25 | NivFreak | fewyn: WWS keeps them forever if you pay |
| 01:06.54 | fewyn | I don't want to pay for it... at least not their website. Everytime I decide to upload it's either slow as hell or down |
| 01:07.18 | NeoTron | NivFreak: it's not optimal... but it doesn't suck |
| 01:07.27 | NeoTron | it's helped my guild a lot |
| 01:07.48 | NeoTron | but lossendil is .. yeah |
| 01:07.52 | NivFreak | it's him |
| 01:07.56 | NivFreak | he's a fuckhead |
| 01:07.57 | NeoTron | the market for a better tool is, in fact, there :P |
| 01:08.00 | NivFreak | I want to pay someone else my money |
| 01:08.33 | NivFreak | I really can't clearly express my anger with him |
| 01:08.48 | NivFreak | and yes, there's a huge market to be tapped |
| 01:09.06 | NivFreak | because most people do not like WWS, but use it for lack of a better alternative |
| 01:09.14 | fewyn | yep |
| 01:09.25 | fewyn | stasiscl or something like that is out there |
| 01:09.26 | NeoTron | the potential for long term statistical analysis is great too |
| 01:09.28 | fewyn | but it's a bit clunky |
| 01:09.40 | fewyn | and it doesn't sort things nicely |
| 01:09.41 | NeoTron | aka over-time graphs and comparisions for individuals and such |
| 01:10.08 | fewyn | http://code.google.com/p/stasiscl/ |
| 01:10.33 | fewyn | hmm |
| 01:10.39 | NivFreak | fewyn: I use statiscl, and it's great for what it does |
| 01:10.44 | fewyn | looks like it has been upgraded with a better look lately |
| 01:10.45 | NivFreak | but it's lacking a lot of the drill down features you want |
| 01:10.56 | fewyn | yea |
| 01:11.08 | fewyn | i want to keep stats permantly and it not be lame |
| 01:11.14 | fewyn | i also like hosting on my own servers |
| 01:11.15 | NivFreak | I want to know a lot about what people where doing when certain events take place |
| 01:11.15 | kokolores | does wws show kidney shots? |
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| 01:11.19 | NivFreak | WWS limps along and gives me that |
| 01:11.24 | NivFreak | oddly, it did a much better job pre-2.4 |
| 01:11.56 | NeoTron | timeline graphs would be nice |
| 01:12.05 | CIA-58 | 03zhinjio 07NewDB * r81990 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (ARLFrame.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 01:12.07 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 01:12.11 | CIA-58 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.13 | CIA-58 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.52 | NeoTron | especially taking boss specific things into account (dps graph that marks when the person has burn for a TBC example) |
| 01:13.12 | NivFreak | alright, I'm out |
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| 01:23.27 | wraithan | Zhinjio: ping |
| 01:25.53 | nocts|work | Link to the latest talent calculators? Not sure if Blizzard's are the official WOTLK current talent trees << |
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| 01:27.49 | wraithan | nocts|work: wotlkwiki has good ones if I recall right |
| 01:28.29 | nocts|work | Thankya |
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| 01:33.25 | wraithan | Anyone willing to go over my latest version of my resume with me, perferably someone who a professional programmer and or hires programmers? |
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| 01:51.21 | Zyndrome | http://www.anniescostumes.com/Blood_Elf_Kit.jpg |
| 01:51.30 | Zyndrome | ยท.\ |
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| 01:59.18 | Zhinjio | wraithan: pong |
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| 02:01.32 | Pkekyo| | ~dict procrastinate |
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| 02:02.26 | CIA-58 | .Babble-Trainer-2.2: |
| 02:02.27 | CIA-58 | - koKR update |
| 02:03.45 | wraithan | Zhinjio: redid that resume |
| 02:03.47 | wraithan | oops |
| 02:04.34 | CIA-58 | 03kurax * r81992 10kgPanelsConfig/Locales/kgPanels-zhCN.lua: kgPanelsConfig: zhCN update |
| 02:07.55 | Wobin | you don't realise how stupid those ears look |
| 02:08.01 | Wobin | til you see them in 'RL' |
| 02:09.50 | Pkekyo| | downloading 13.5GB at 0.1KB/s.... awesome :p |
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| 02:21.54 | whatsinthename | is there a way to capture the "onclick" event on a tab using aceconfig3? |
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| 02:23.21 | CIA-58 | 03kurax * r81993 10Wishlist/ (Wishlist-enUS.lua Wishlist-zhCN.lua): Wishlist: zhCN update |
| 02:25.44 | vithos | hmm.. there is a problem with FacadeBuffs. the buffs and debuffs overlap: http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3746/wowscrnshot092308211940hl8.jpg |
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| 02:26.50 | nocts|work | I can has a link to pre-ordering wotlk collector's edition? |
| 02:26.55 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Is there a place I should be looking for a build of ButtonBin that doesn't throw errors soon as I right-click on it (in beta) |
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| 02:35.04 | nocts|work | So I can't even find the collectors edition at gamestop |
| 02:35.23 | Dashkal | That sucker sold out the day of |
| 02:36.01 | nocts|work | Bah :/ |
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| 02:37.21 | Zhinjio | gamestop sold out, yeah |
| 02:37.46 | Zhinjio | You might try one thing: pre-order a regular one, and then go into the store and try and have them upgrade it to CE for you |
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| 02:38.10 | nocts|work | Meh :( |
| 02:38.23 | nocts|work | Not really anything I can live without, I guess. |
| 02:38.31 | nocts|work | *can't live |
| 02:39.10 | Wobin | if living is without you? |
| 02:39.31 | nocts|work | lol |
| 02:43.27 | whatsinthename | is it possible to explicitly modify status bar text in ace config? |
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| 02:58.02 | sylvanaar | who plays a druid? |
| 02:58.42 | sylvanaar | if you do (on beta) - bump my post: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043251444&sid=2000 |
| 02:58.48 | Zhinjio | I fake it occasionally. |
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| 03:08.51 | wraithan | Later all.. girlfriend's daughter is running a 104 (only 1.5 years old) and my girlfriend is too tired to drive, I gotta go take her and her daughter to hospital |
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| 03:09.47 | nocts|work | wraithan: Hope all is well :( |
| 03:09.49 | nocts|work | http://www.projectsidewalk.com/images/flowchart2.jpg |
| 03:11.00 | Matrix110 | oh nice wowi/curse are selling emails :D |
| 03:11.44 | Matrix110 | could be warcraftmovies aswell |
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| 03:13.20 | Arrowmaster | highly doubt its wowi/curse |
| 03:13.55 | Matrix110 | Well its one of those 3 :P |
| 03:14.08 | Matrix110 | Only regged there with that email and received WoW Account scam mails :P |
| 03:15.04 | ckknight | Matrix110: curse does not sell emails, I can tell you that |
| 03:15.06 | Matrix110 | <a href=http://login-worldofwarcraft.freehostia.com/ target="_blank">https://www.wow-europe.com/login/login?service=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wow-europe.com%2Faccount%2F</a><br> |
| 03:15.07 | Matrix110 | :D |
| 03:15.18 | Matrix110 | spot the error |
| 03:15.35 | Arrowmaster | your on the US realms? |
| 03:15.36 | ckknight | should use quotes for the href |
| 03:15.41 | ckknight | and close the br tag |
| 03:16.04 | Matrix110 | no Arrowmaster Iam not |
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| 03:16.17 | Matrix110 | But I received the same one for worldofwarcraft.com aswell with another URL |
| 03:16.42 | Matrix110 | ah well work time :P |
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| 03:38.45 | moolgar | is there any software i can test my addons ? so i dont need to enter wow ? |
| 03:39.33 | Zhinjio | you can install the lua interpreter? |
| 03:39.43 | Zhinjio | that will at least do a syntax check for you |
| 03:40.00 | moolgar | hmm i have that, but thought i only could use that ingame |
| 03:40.07 | moolgar | thx anyway |
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| 03:41.45 | CIA-58 | 03cryect * r81995 10Recount2/ (6 files in 5 dirs): |
| 03:41.47 | CIA-58 | Recount2: |
| 03:41.51 | CIA-58 | -Fixes actually saving view options for source/target |
| 03:41.53 | CIA-58 | -Adds Affiliation and Reaction tracking |
| 03:41.55 | CIA-58 | -Adds ability to filter in views by Affiliation and Reaction on source/target |
| 03:48.01 | moolgar | hmm, i can only find a in-game lua interpreter <Zhinjio> , you have a name of one i can use thats not ingame ? |
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| 03:54.50 | Wobin | moolgar: www.lua.org ? |
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| 04:02.48 | moolgar | looked there too but didnt see any, but nvm, found one at http://wowprogramming.com/utils now :D thx anyway |
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| 05:06.29 | tjs | heya |
| 05:06.51 | tjs | I have a bit of a newbie question |
| 05:07.14 | orionshock | ~asktoask |
| 05:07.15 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 05:07.33 | Wobin | purl, you're back! |
| 05:07.34 | purl | No wobin, I'm not really here |
| 05:07.34 | orionshock | doesn't really apply but close.. |
| 05:07.38 | Wobin | aw |
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| 05:08.11 | tjs | I'm reading about lua, I'm an experienced programmer in other languages |
| 05:08.25 | tjs | looking at foo:bar(1) vs foo.bar(foo, 1) |
| 05:08.55 | Wobin | ah, syntactic sugar |
| 05:09.19 | tjs | and thinking I'd much prefer to come up with some kind of 'klass' constructor which basically 'binds' methods on the current 'table' |
| 05:09.50 | tjs | ie: when a 'klass' is instantiated, traverse the methods, and replace them with a partial |
| 05:10.04 | tjs | which passes in the 'self', 'this' whatever |
| 05:10.13 | Wobin | why not just use : ? |
| 05:10.44 | tjs | well for a start, you can't take foo:bar and pass it as a callback can you? |
| 05:10.47 | Wobin | which is what your constructor would do |
| 05:11.04 | Wobin | no but you can pass it foo.bar |
| 05:11.17 | tjs | ah, but you'd also have to pass it foo |
| 05:11.29 | tjs | so when it calls your function back it passes the foo as the first param |
| 05:11.45 | Wobin | why not just pass foo as an argument to your callback? |
| 05:12.03 | tjs | its not particularly clean I guess |
| 05:12.21 | Wobin | far better than the overhead involved in a constructor like that, I imagine |
| 05:12.38 | Arrowmaster | dont attempt to make your code too OOP with Lua, it just doesnt work well unless youre doing simple stuff |
| 05:12.42 | tjs | well I guess thats why I'm asking what the overhead of implementing partial is |
| 05:13.06 | tjs | hmm. |
| 05:13.34 | Wobin | well you -can- but it's fairly non compost mental at times. |
| 05:13.58 | Wobin | You'll spend more time debugging the OO than the actual code =P |
| 05:14.27 | tjs | yeh |
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| 05:16.16 | orionshock | tjs: what you describe almost sounds like what we do to embed libs into addons... |
| 05:18.07 | tjs | orionshock: I'm yet to touch a line of lua.. but I've familiar with binding methods in python, and a very similar problem with not having real classes in javascript has lead to some js libs (like MochiKit) implementing functions like bindMethods(foo) which walk foo and create closures with foo around each 'method' |
| 05:18.28 | Wobin | in reality, what you'd end up with is an interface table for each class that takes each function call and passes it to the class instantiation with 'self' inserted as an initial argument |
| 05:18.40 | Wobin | right? |
| 05:18.40 | tjs | it means you can pass foo.bar as a callback |
| 05:19.05 | Wobin | Or, you could have the callback pass the object as an argument, and save two table traversals |
| 05:19.57 | orionshock | u using CBH? |
| 05:20.19 | orionshock | hehe |
| 05:20.33 | tjs | cbh? |
| 05:20.34 | Wobin | To be honest, I dont' think the amount of times you'd use callbacks in that manner that can't be worked around fairly easily is worth the overhead involved in your binding system |
| 05:20.37 | Wobin | CallBackHandler |
| 05:21.05 | tjs | I'm not using anything yet :) |
| 05:21.38 | orionshock | only recommendation i have is to ghetto rig it first then try optimizing it |
| 05:22.18 | orionshock | tjs: better question, what kind of addon are you writing? |
| 05:22.31 | Wobin | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 05:22.32 | tjs | orionshock: I have a bar mod idea |
| 05:22.58 | tjs | if you can imagine an osx-like 'dock' |
| 05:23.08 | tjs | that is made up of action bar buttons |
| 05:23.10 | orionshock | take a look at how the libs Embed into addons; and go from there... |
| 05:23.26 | tjs | which expands as you add more things to it |
| 05:23.41 | tjs | and also accept docked windows |
| 05:23.53 | tjs | so you can minimize a window to the dock |
| 05:24.16 | Wobin | I've seen something like that |
| 05:24.20 | Wobin | it wasn't an action bar though |
| 05:24.21 | orionshock | personally i'd start with something a bit more simpler to get familiar with the environment. |
| 05:24.33 | Wobin | but yeah, I agree with orionshock on that =) |
| 05:24.36 | tjs | I just see alot of useful features in taskbar/menu type systems for linux desktops that could be implemented in wow |
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| 05:24.47 | orionshock | not really |
| 05:25.18 | tjs | for instance |
| 05:25.50 | tjs | why is bartender and fubar not the same thing? couldn't fubar mods be 'applets' on your barmod? |
| 05:26.30 | tjs | are they conceptually very different? both are a bar of things |
| 05:26.35 | Wobin | yes |
| 05:26.38 | orionshock | very |
| 05:26.51 | Wobin | in the same way that a bar that has booze and a crowbar are the same |
| 05:27.03 | orionshock | that and iirc, fubar was designed for data display initially |
| 05:27.35 | Wobin | actionbars are unfortunately a lot more complex in game than can be easily integrated in that way |
| 05:27.45 | Zhinjio | filed another ticket orionshock |
| 05:27.50 | Zhinjio | I'm sure you know |
| 05:28.20 | orionshock | Zhinjio: ya, u got a better angle for me |
| 05:28.38 | Zhinjio | getting more people using it every day |
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| 05:32.35 | orionshock | u get your DB back? |
| 05:32.42 | Zhinjio | yup! |
| 05:32.54 | orionshock | i hope to have something a bit more stable when 3.0 hits |
| 05:33.04 | Zhinjio | really just took one other person with the full list logging in |
| 05:33.14 | orionshock | & it worked? |
| 05:33.16 | Zhinjio | then it all came right back |
| 05:33.16 | orionshock | really? |
| 05:33.22 | Zhinjio | yup, all at once |
| 05:33.29 | Zhinjio | I wasn't watching the db or anything, but yeah |
| 05:33.39 | orionshock | ya the idea with offline synch is a push not a pull.. so it can act weird |
| 05:35.17 | Zhinjio | even some of the people who are really hesitant to run nearly anything are sold on it. |
| 05:35.23 | Zhinjio | its joined the "short list" for alot of people |
| 05:36.28 | orionshock | tbh, i am surprised with the circulation with it... |
| 05:37.44 | Zhinjio | out of curiosity, why was smelting excluded? |
| 05:37.50 | Zhinjio | its marginally useful to see |
| 05:37.51 | Zhinjio | I think |
| 05:38.24 | Fogger | cant we use SetWidth() in combat then? |
| 05:38.37 | orionshock | Zhinjio: not really |
| 05:39.13 | Zhinjio | in some cases, people abandoned mining for something like engineering, so they wanna know who can smelt for them |
| 05:39.27 | Zhinjio | I mean, usually they picked it up on another toon, but... *shrug* |
| 05:39.50 | orionshock | ... |
| 05:43.20 | Zhinjio | the problem is that its not like herbalism where all you get is the gathering skill. it actually creates new items |
| 05:43.40 | orionshock | good point; make a ticket |
| 05:43.52 | orionshock | it's easy tho, just got to remove it from the ignore list for everyone |
| 05:44.28 | Zhinjio | nods. I didn't think it was gonna be tough |
| 05:44.29 | Zhinjio | I will. |
| 05:44.33 | Zhinjio | (make a ticket) |
| 05:45.09 | Zhinjio | done |
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| 05:47.27 | orionshock | i'll prolly work on it tommarow |
| 05:47.39 | orionshock | i need to make use of this new lib Maldivia has for me to play with :D |
| 05:47.54 | Zhinjio | cool. |
| 05:48.05 | Zhinjio | I have beta account(s) that I can access to help test, if needed |
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| 06:42.15 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: did that Agnostic-LibFubar ever get a preform Ace3 Options table put in it? |
| 06:43.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
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| 07:15.27 | Antiarc | Antitrust: Bad movie, or baddest movie? |
| 07:15.31 | Antiarc | It's hilarious |
| 07:15.38 | Antiarc | I mean, it's just so bad |
| 07:15.45 | Antiarc | It wraps into enjoyable territory |
| 07:15.52 | Antiarc | Because it's hilarious without trying |
| 07:16.13 | Groktar | bites Antiarc |
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| 09:13.42 | Zhinjio | FIST! |
| 09:13.43 | Zhinjio | How could I forget fist weapons |
| 09:13.43 | Zhinjio | sillyme |
| 09:28.22 | Zhinjio | worked perfeectly. thank you |
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| 09:46.36 | CIA-58 | 03zeksie * r81997 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_Portalz/ZOMGBuffs_Portalz.lua: ZOMGBuffs_Portalz: Fixed issues with the Portalz module and unavailable portal spells. |
| 09:47.07 | CIA-58 | 03zeksie * r81998 10ZOMGBuffs/ (Locales/localization.lua ZOMGBuffs.lua): |
| 09:47.08 | CIA-58 | ZOMGBuffs: |
| 09:47.10 | CIA-58 | - New option to hide the ZOMGBuffs text name on the main icon. |
| 09:47.14 | CIA-58 | - New option to show/hide the swirly 'spell ready' display on main icon. |
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| 10:05.10 | thul | goooood morning |
| 10:05.26 | nevcairiel | morning thul |
| 10:07.27 | thul | the lecturer we have this week is real good! |
| 10:07.36 | thul | it is a delight to have 2 hours of contract revision each morning :-D |
| 10:09.07 | Zhinjio | nevcairiel: ace3 options question... |
| 10:09.19 | Zhinjio | I'm looking at mapster's method of managing the options table |
| 10:09.39 | Zhinjio | I can see how each module sticks in its goodies when the module inits |
| 10:10.06 | Zhinjio | what I'm not clear on is how the default "Profiles" stuff gets throw in |
| 10:10.18 | Zhinjio | I mean, I see the lines that do it |
| 10:10.21 | Zhinjio | but I don't get it |
| 10:10.49 | Fisker- | destroys |
| 10:10.54 | nevcairiel | What dont you get in it? It just provides a table that i plug into the options like it was a module of my own |
| 10:10.59 | Fisker- | omg |
| 10:11.02 | Fisker- | i love you so much Zeksie |
| 10:11.06 | Fisker- | kisses Zeksie |
| 10:11.57 | Zhinjio | this is where lua's scoping bugs me |
| 10:12.08 | Zhinjio | let me step through it again and I'll get backtoyou |
| 10:12.12 | Fisker- | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/20/10043320155-suggestion-molten-core.html <-haha |
| 10:12.22 | Fisker- | And this was suggested on the EU forums over a month ago |
| 10:12.40 | Fisker- | Blizzard claiming to read all posts even on EU 0 - 1 Users |
| 10:12.51 | nevcairiel | that post is 4 days old |
| 10:13.15 | Fisker- | Haven't been looking on the beta forums lately |
| 10:13.58 | Zhinjio | ok, forget the options table question, this is more fundamental |
| 10:14.17 | Zhinjio | so in toc order, Mapster.lua will "load" first... |
| 10:14.45 | Zhinjio | that defines a vairable "Mapster" via ace3's NewAddon method |
| 10:14.52 | Zhinjio | LOCAL scope to that file. |
| 10:15.11 | Zhinjio | when that file finishes executing, isn't that gone>? |
| 10:15.11 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:15.28 | nevcairiel | it'll stay as a upvalue for the functions in that file |
| 10:16.30 | Zhinjio | maybe I need to go read lua's scoping stuff again, that just makes no sense. |
| 10:16.54 | Zhinjio | unless of course, the file is NOT, in fact, the scoping container |
| 10:17.04 | wraithan | xampp a pretty good AMPP stack? |
| 10:17.10 | wraithan | at least for person use |
| 10:17.53 | nevcairiel | it is, Zhinjio, but it doesnt just vanish when the function ended |
| 10:18.05 | nevcairiel | er, file ended |
| 10:18.29 | Zeksie | Fisker- :) |
| 10:18.29 | Zhinjio | well, thats my lack of understanding then |
| 10:18.56 | Zhinjio | if an object persists beyond the "end" of its containing element, there's something whacky with scoping. |
| 10:19.06 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 10:19.30 | Zhinjio | if I do "do local x = 10 end" I expect that x is GONE once that "end" executes |
| 10:19.50 | Zhinjio | likewise, if a file contains a "local blah = somethingorother" ... when that file ends, blah should be gone. |
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| 10:20.06 | Zeksie | yes, but if things USE the local, then it's kept alive |
| 10:20.20 | Zeksie | likewise, if something uses a local in the do..end, it's kept alive |
| 10:20.31 | Zhinjio | wait |
| 10:20.50 | Zeksie | think of it more as a static |
| 10:20.52 | nevcairiel | you create new closures in the file that reference your loca as a upvalue |
| 10:20.55 | Zeksie | if you're used to c++ |
| 10:21.04 | nevcairiel | so the local is kept |
| 10:21.06 | Zhinjio | so ... "do local x = 10; print(x); end; print(x) WILL produce a second value? |
| 10:21.20 | Zeksie | no.. because you never return to that point |
| 10:21.34 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 10:21.42 | Zeksie | but if you have do local x function foo() return x end end ...... foo() |
| 10:21.46 | Zeksie | then it is kept |
| 10:21.52 | Zhinjio | hmm. |
| 10:22.00 | Zhinjio | thats pretty fucked up right there. |
| 10:22.11 | Zhinjio | jesus. |
| 10:22.14 | Zeksie | it's .. odd, to get used to. but it's so so handy. and flexible |
| 10:22.32 | Zhinjio | and I've written some 5000 lines of SKG and never gotten that. |
| 10:22.38 | Zeksie | :) |
| 10:22.39 | Zhinjio | my scoping is probably all whacked as a result. |
| 10:22.46 | Zhinjio | crap |
| 10:22.54 | Zeksie | yeah, it's not something you get right initially. |
| 10:23.24 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 10:23.31 | Zhinjio | so nev... back to my original question |
| 10:23.35 | Zhinjio | lemme see if I get this right |
| 10:23.57 | Zhinjio | in COnfig.lua, you have "options" and "moduleOptions" defined as locals |
| 10:24.08 | Zhinjio | any procedure in config.lua can therefor refer to them and use them |
| 10:24.15 | Zhinjio | (as the register fucntion does) |
| 10:24.28 | Zhinjio | however |
| 10:25.12 | Zhinjio | there's no "lasting" reference to them, so they effectively only get instantiated (and in fact, reinstantiated) when something like Mapster:SetupOptions gets called |
| 10:25.15 | Zhinjio | is that right? |
| 10:25.31 | nevcairiel | huh? |
| 10:25.36 | Zhinjio | gah |
| 10:25.46 | Zhinjio | maybe I need to look at this after I've slept |
| 10:25.51 | Zhinjio | baby crying. brb |
| 10:26.00 | nevcairiel | they hang around because they are referenced in the functios |
| 10:26.40 | nevcairiel | just think of them as vars in the file-global scope |
| 10:26.44 | nevcairiel | if you come from C =P |
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| 10:27.00 | Zhinjio | I come from alot of places. ok. |
| 10:27.08 | Zhinjio | so, wow. |
| 10:27.18 | Zhinjio | this is sort of life changing for my code. |
| 10:27.19 | Zhinjio | ga |
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| 10:27.52 | nevcairiel | upvalues can be confusing, specially if you create closures inside other closures |
| 10:28.32 | mitch0 | yo |
| 10:28.43 | mitch0 | how is the svn migration going? |
| 10:29.03 | nevcairiel | its supposed to happen on friday now |
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| 10:31.05 | Zhinjio | ok, so one more question |
| 10:31.19 | Zhinjio | if that is true, and that memory effectively hangs around |
| 10:31.39 | Zhinjio | why not just define those variables globally, like Mapster.options and Mapster.moduleOptions |
| 10:31.39 | nevcairiel | if its referenced somewhere, that is |
| 10:31.47 | Zhinjio | is there a difference, memory wise? |
| 10:32.00 | Zhinjio | or... anything-wise? |
| 10:32.01 | nevcairiel | upvalue lookups are faster |
| 10:32.08 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 10:32.08 | nevcairiel | and i like to contain the code in the file |
| 10:32.24 | nevcairiel | so i force myself to use the proper API i wrote |
| 10:32.25 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 10:33.37 | Zhinjio | presumably, the speed difference is signficant is so many people do it this way and are so adamant about it |
| 10:34.24 | Fisker- | nevcairiel is so nevcairiel |
| 10:35.14 | nevcairiel | i mostly use it to contain the code in its file where it belongs |
| 10:35.20 | nevcairiel | not much for the speed |
| 10:35.26 | nevcairiel | to simply not bloat up my table |
| 10:36.43 | Zhinjio | ok, that I get |
| 10:36.48 | Zhinjio | clarity and all that |
| 10:37.04 | Zhinjio | the memory is still being used, just constrained to that functions upvalue stack |
| 10:37.20 | Zhinjio | and sort of "hidden" from anything but the functions that would use it |
| 10:37.46 | Fisker- | http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=497 <-do want nevcairiel |
| 10:38.01 | wraithan | http://edmazur.com/bots/weapons.php anyone see how that economy field is being generated, I can't figure it out |
| 10:39.07 | wraithan | Ratio is calced by taking Req Str and dividing it by Req Dex |
| 10:39.20 | wraithan | but I don't see how ceonomy is calced at all |
| 10:42.10 | wraithan | ooooh |
| 10:44.17 | wraithan | It is total damange divided by the total of req str + req dex - base stats (10 of each) |
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| 10:48.47 | Poul|Raider | When i want to save a tga file for art in photoshop it pops asking if i want to use 16 24 or 32 bits/pixel - what would i pick? |
| 10:49.29 | nevcairiel | 32 if you want an alpha channel |
| 10:51.21 | Poul|Raider | ye i tested and it worked :) only issue is that the stuff i deleted from the texture with the eraser is white ingame now and not transperant .D |
| 10:51.31 | Poul|Raider | need to find out where to set the alpha channel thing i guess |
| 10:51.58 | Poul|Raider | found it |
| 10:52.09 | Poul|Raider | thx anyway nevcairiel |
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| 11:07.55 | Zhinjio | in Mapster:OnInitialize() you call self:SetupOptions() |
| 11:08.06 | Zhinjio | how can that work... since Config.lua (which defines it) hasn't been loaded yet? |
| 11:08.17 | nevcairiel | what makes you say it hasnt? |
| 11:08.26 | nevcairiel | OnInit gets called after all files and the SV has been loaded |
| 11:08.35 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 11:08.44 | Zhinjio | so things aren't resolved until they're actually called? |
| 11:09.37 | Zhinjio | I feel like I've been living in some delusional little coding world |
| 11:09.38 | Zhinjio | fuck me |
| 11:16.22 | Tifi | from WorldMapFrame.lua: -- Temporary Hack (Temporary meaning 2 yrs, haha) |
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| 11:25.36 | Bruners | what was the arena points command ? |
| 11:26.11 | wraithan | ~points 100 |
| 11:26.11 | purl | points at 100 and cries "STOUTERIK" at the top of his voice |
| 11:26.17 | wraithan | ~rating 1500 |
| 11:26.27 | wraithan | !points 100 |
| 11:26.33 | wraithan | hmm |
| 11:26.50 | wraithan | !rating 1500 |
| 11:27.23 | nevcairiel | xin isnt here |
| 11:27.32 | nevcairiel | !ap 1500 |
| 11:27.40 | nevcairiel | do that =P |
| 11:27.50 | wraithan | !ap 1500 |
| 11:28.03 | nevcairiel | !ar for reverse |
| 11:28.07 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 11:28.10 | nevcairiel | !ar 300 |
| 11:28.13 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 11:29.05 | Bruners | i need 467 points, how much rating would i need ? :P |
| 11:29.22 | nevcairiel | do !ar 467 |
| 11:29.38 | Bruners | !ar 467 |
| 11:31.44 | chexsum | its /glory arena point 467 |
| 11:31.47 | chexsum | in wow :P |
| 11:32.03 | Bruners | what addon ? |
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| 11:32.12 | chexsum | anything that uses glorylib |
| 11:32.42 | Bruners | dont have anyone that uses glorylib :( |
| 11:33.22 | Elkano | BattlegroundFu? HonorFu? |
| 11:34.13 | Elkano | reminds me.. with the new bg, if there is a shift in the bg weekends I'll have to adjust my formular used in GloryLib :/ |
| 11:34.31 | jnwhiteh | you can get the BG information from the calendar |
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| 11:35.20 | Fisker- | slaps Elkano around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:36.08 | Bruners | any of you got some clue about warlock pvp gear? |
| 11:36.30 | Bruners | wondering what part i should have as felweave in combo with dreadweave |
| 11:38.48 | Bruners | chexsum: can i just install glorylib and it should work ? |
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| 11:49.50 | orionshock | what is the frame called "UIErrorFrame? |
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| 11:52.02 | dafire | hi all |
| 11:53.41 | dafire | is anyone here playing wow on a mac ? |
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| 12:28.20 | charon | dafire: maybe if you state your actual problem/request up front, people are more likely to speak up |
| 12:28.29 | charon | (no i'm on linux, but by sheer numbers _someone_ has to use a mac here) |
| 12:32.07 | kenlyric | ~asktoask |
| 12:32.08 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 12:32.22 | kenlyric | I help with bot commans |
| 12:32.31 | kenlyric | I'm playing WoW on a mac, but the mac is running windows |
| 12:32.33 | Stanzilla | ckknight plays on os x |
| 12:32.38 | kenlyric | because I play games other than wow |
| 12:32.43 | kenlyric | which the mac shits on |
| 12:32.50 | kenlyric | the mac os x |
| 12:33.28 | dafire | charon: just was interested .. I installed macos on my pc yesterday using boot-132 (i own a retail dvd) and wanted to know if it will run with the same performance like under windows :) |
| 12:33.43 | Pkekyo| | is it Intel or AMD CPUs that are theshit these days? |
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| 12:45.51 | wraithan | dafire: well under wine in linux I get near the same performance as windows, because I am on linux I have to use the opengl engine which is what the mac uses |
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| 12:47.28 | whatsinthename | good morning everyone |
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| 12:49.29 | dafire | is wow on mac simply a folder in the programs folder so i can copy it to another hd when i reinstall or do i have to do all install and patching again ? |
| 12:50.06 | renchap | you can copy it |
| 12:50.14 | orionshock | provided same OS - just a folder |
| 12:50.28 | dafire | cool thanks .) |
| 12:50.39 | dafire | i like that most mac programs don't even have an installer |
| 12:51.00 | dafire | i think about getting a macbook when i need a new laptop and checking out macos now because of that .) |
| 12:51.04 | wraithan | ended up using vim instead of sed/awk lol |
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| 13:01.50 | Fisker- | wobviously intel Pkekyo| |
| 13:01.57 | Fisker- | Price cuts and nehalem on the way btw |
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| 13:05.03 | Thaoky | hello there |
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| 13:09.17 | Fisker- | i want my case nevcairiel :( |
| 13:09.25 | nevcairiel | so buy it |
| 13:09.30 | Fisker- | i did |
| 13:09.46 | nevcairiel | so hope i dont trash it |
| 13:09.55 | Fisker- | Decided on another case |
| 13:10.25 | Fisker- | Somewhat smaller, but airflow should be just as good >:3 |
| 13:10.36 | Fisker- | also no sata bays |
| 13:10.46 | Fisker- | which doesn't concern me much since i had an incompatible drive anyways |
| 13:11.09 | Fisker- | now i'm just waiting for nehalem |
| 13:11.15 | Fisker- | do want 8 threads |
| 13:11.22 | Fisker- | om nom nom and all that |
| 13:11.52 | Fisker- | i'm networkingly disturbed already >:E |
| 13:12.10 | Thaoky | lol :) |
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| 13:24.27 | jnwhiteh | Rep needs better flood protection ::P |
| 13:25.03 | nevcairiel | he didnt even say something |
| 13:25.07 | nevcairiel | that i saw anyway |
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| 13:33.17 | wraithan | nevcairiel: client side, saying he got flooded by spam and his client decided screw this and bailed |
| 13:33.22 | wraithan | probably because the netsplit |
| 13:35.23 | Maldivia | wraithan: Excess flood is the server kicking the client - not the client quitting |
| 13:35.36 | Maldivia | (unless it's someone with a joke quit message ofcourse) |
| 13:35.49 | dafire | maybe the bot does who querys or stuff on join |
| 13:36.06 | dafire | it's probably a script behaving not good :) |
| 13:36.51 | Thaoky | hey guys, I've got a couple of questions regarding fubar, could anyone help ? |
| 13:36.57 | Maldivia | excessive who, whois, list etc can cause that, yeah |
| 13:37.10 | dafire | ask your questions and we will see |
| 13:37.16 | Thaoky | k :) |
| 13:38.06 | Thaoky | so, I updated my addon to use ace3 libs instead of ace2, and I'd like to bring fubar support back to what it was under ace2 |
| 13:38.07 | wraithan | Is FuBar even being updated for wotlk? |
| 13:38.33 | Thaoky | wraithan: I have fubar 3.0 running on the beta |
| 13:38.46 | dafire | i think fubar works in beta and it is not using ace2 but rock |
| 13:39.05 | kenlyric | fubar never breaks |
| 13:39.13 | Thaoky | I'm using a modified fubarplugin3, same as omen does |
| 13:39.17 | Thaoky | basic support work fine |
| 13:39.52 | Thaoky | what I can't do is to get the default drop down menu (show/hide text, show/hide icon, etc..), which if I understand correctly depends on the presence of DB support |
| 13:40.17 | Thaoky | so I was wondering if anyone was roughly familiar with that part :) |
| 13:40.27 | nevcairiel | I dont think youll get that at all if yu use Ace3 |
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| 13:41.05 | thul | Q: Will there be a Mac/other platform version? |
| 13:41.05 | thul | A: I never say never - but we will only launch WAR on the PC. |
| 13:41.06 | thul | FUCK YOU |
| 13:41.18 | Thaoky | any chance to work around the issue without using rock libs ? |
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| 13:42.29 | Pucmel | ok |
| 13:42.43 | dafire | looks like noone knows .9 |
| 13:43.29 | Stanzilla | dafire: finish closetgnome! |
| 13:43.49 | dafire | hey.. i updated some days ago .. you noticed ? ;) |
| 13:44.30 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 13:44.44 | Stanzilla | I had to comment all the debug stuff again :P |
| 13:45.08 | dafire | you just could change the debug function on top of the file ;9 |
| 13:46.29 | Thaoky | dafire: no problem, I'll ask later :) |
| 13:46.31 | dafire | i checked it into wowace svn since rabbit wanted to check the fork |
| 13:46.58 | Stanzilla | mhmmm |
| 13:47.00 | vhaarr | yeah I'll get to it soon I think, I need to rework the whole interface |
| 13:47.05 | dafire | i wanted to do keybinding interface next.. what is still missing ? |
| 13:48.14 | vhaarr | your interface is not what I want, that's missing |
| 13:48.19 | dafire | i guess best would be to just add core functions to core addon and do everything else with plugins/modules |
| 13:49.01 | vhaarr | and that's not what I've already done? |
| 13:49.45 | dafire | i'd put the character frame stuff as an module, too ... a way to set up sets |
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| 13:51.06 | vhaarr | that's wrong, don't do that |
| 13:51.11 | Fisker- | OMG PATCH? |
| 13:51.50 | dafire | why ? someone might write an other interface to set up sets ... without using the character frame |
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| 13:55.43 | vhaarr | because I say so |
| 13:55.54 | vhaarr | it's not worth it, they can make their own addon then |
| 13:56.05 | vhaarr | or interface with the database without replacing the original UI |
| 13:56.17 | vhaarr | making everything modular will just end up with a fucking {} as the core of the addon |
| 13:56.26 | vhaarr | there's no point |
| 13:57.37 | vhaarr | just because you recently discovered modularization doesn't mean it's the solution to everything, addons should serve a small purpose and serve it well, not be a jack-of-all-trades |
| 13:57.39 | dafire | no.. it would be a core with functions to change sets |
| 13:58.01 | dafire | it's nothing i recently discovered .) |
| 13:58.39 | dafire | but whatever I guess I'll just do what I want to do ;) |
| 13:58.39 | vhaarr | then you would know like me that it's pointless to separate this functionality from the rest of the addon |
| 14:00.54 | dafire | i think in most cases it's not a wrong thing to seperate all ui stuff from the core api .) |
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| 14:01.12 | vhaarr | think what you want, it doesn't make you right |
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| 14:01.44 | dafire | and just because you don't like it, it doesn't make you right |
| 14:03.29 | vhaarr | I am, but even if I wasn't, I don't have to be right, since it's my addon |
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| 14:03.56 | dafire | and I'm not changing your addon .. |
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| 14:05.40 | vhaarr | don't lie to yourself, that never ends well |
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| 14:06.03 | KriLL3 | are there any details yet on the mythical new pvp items coming to the PTR/3.0.2 ? |
| 14:06.21 | dafire | i did the fork for myself and changed it to what i like more,,, i never had the intention to get the changes into your trunk |
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| 14:06.48 | vhaarr | that's fine, but it's still a fork/modification of my addon |
| 14:06.49 | vhaarr | so |
| 14:06.52 | vhaarr | <dafire> and I'm not changing your addon .. |
| 14:06.53 | vhaarr | is not true |
| 14:06.59 | whatsinthename | can anyone name a mod that uses acegui3 to create simple dialogs |
| 14:07.19 | vhaarr | dafire: you're welcome to do whatever you want with it, of course |
| 14:07.50 | dafire | so where is your problem then ? |
| 14:08.02 | vhaarr | I don't have a problem, you do |
| 14:09.17 | Stanzilla | moar drama plx :) |
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| 14:09.26 | dafire | i was talking to stanzilla about what i am going to do next and you said |
| 14:09.28 | dafire | <vhaarr> that's wrong, don't do that |
| 14:09.43 | dafire | so it looks like you have a problem with it ;) |
| 14:10.02 | vhaarr | I was assuming you wanted to work WITH me on converting ClosetGnome |
| 14:10.11 | vhaarr | in which case I had a problem with the way you were doing things |
| 14:10.15 | Josh_Borke | ~assume |
| 14:10.15 | purl | About assumptions : http://www.moviewavs.com/php/sounds/?id=gog&media=WAVS&type=Movies&movie=Long_Kiss_Goodnight"e=assume.txt&file=assume.wav |
| 14:10.17 | vhaarr | but you're not, so then why should I care |
| 14:10.39 | vhaarr | which, I mind you, is a perfectly reasonable assumption |
| 14:10.49 | dafire | but you already told me before that what I do is not what you want for the addon .. |
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| 14:11.06 | KriLL3 | what is he doing exactly? |
| 14:11.15 | vhaarr | that doesn't mean I don't want to work with you |
| 14:11.28 | vhaarr | some of the things you've done so far are wrong but part of it can still be used |
| 14:11.40 | dafire | oh thanks |
| 14:11.45 | vhaarr | but whatever, I'm done wasting my time, either fork or do what I say |
| 14:12.11 | kenlyric | OBEY |
| 14:12.21 | dafire | well maybe write somewhere what you plan to do and we will see .9 |
| 14:12.29 | dafire | i can't read minds ;) |
| 14:12.52 | vhaarr | I already said it, but you don't pay close attention |
| 14:13.02 | vhaarr | afk now |
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| 14:14.27 | dafire | krill3: i removed ace2/fubar from closetgnome and added a ldb plugin .) |
| 14:15.51 | dafire | http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=closetgnomesimpleic6.png |
| 14:16.30 | Zhinjio | Ackis: ping |
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| 14:23.02 | Thaoky | small question about lua syntax: how do I address a frame that has a dot in its name? _G["frame.whatever"] does not work |
| 14:23.30 | Thaoky | (I tried a \ before the . but it didn't work) |
| 14:24.00 | dafire | are you sure it's the name of the frame and not just a variable ? |
| 14:24.09 | Thaoky | it is the name of the frame, 100% sure |
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| 14:25.06 | Josh_Borke | did you try getglobal("frame.whatever")? |
| 14:25.12 | Josh_Borke | and who namesa frame with . in it |
| 14:25.56 | Thaoky | well, it's my addon's icon in fubar, I got its name with GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 14:26.03 | Thaoky | so 100% sure it's the frame name :) |
| 14:26.09 | Tifi | just use frame.whatever |
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| 14:26.16 | Thaoky | (automatically named by the plugin |
| 14:26.29 | Thaoky | tifi: didn't work either |
| 14:26.44 | Tifi | whats the name of the frame? |
| 14:27.04 | Thaoky | _G[ "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Altoholic_FrameMinimapButton" ] |
| 14:27.16 | Thaoky | I just want to hide it |
| 14:27.39 | Tifi | oh |
| 14:28.14 | Thaoky | I probably miss a \ or so somewhere, but I couldn't find anything on lua sites |
| 14:28.48 | Josh_Borke | you're doing it wrong |
| 14:28.58 | dafire | hmm.. i think fubar provides a function to hide the icon ? |
| 14:28.59 | Thaoky | hence my question :) |
| 14:29.00 | Tifi | _G[ "LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Altoholic_FrameMinimapButton" ]:Hide() doesn't work? |
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| 14:29.12 | Thaoky | tifi: no it doesn't |
| 14:29.42 | Thaoky | dafire: it doesn't work because it requires db support, which was the point of other my question about an hour ago :) |
| 14:29.44 | Josh_Borke | Thaoky: don't provide an icon |
| 14:30.13 | Josh_Borke | http://www.wowace.com/wiki/LibFuBarPlugin-3.0#:HideFuBarIcon.28.29 |
| 14:30.16 | Josh_Borke | why doesn't that work? |
| 14:30.59 | Tifi | well if it doesn't work i'd say you got the wrong name |
| 14:31.01 | Thaoky | wait, i'm firing up the beta |
| 14:31.22 | Fogger | has PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED event been removed from beta? |
| 14:31.36 | nevcairiel | I think so |
| 14:31.40 | nevcairiel | its all UNIT_AURA now |
| 14:32.04 | Fogger | ah, thanks nev |
| 14:36.30 | Thaoky | tifi: double checked, the frame name is correct |
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| 14:37.31 | Tifi | well then /dump _G["LibFuBarPlugin-3.0_Altoholic_FrameMinimapButton"] should return sth other than nil |
| 14:38.02 | Josh_Borke | Thaoky: did you try self:HideFuBarIcon? |
| 14:38.09 | Josh_Borke | it seems like exactly what you want |
| 14:38.16 | Thaoky | josh_borke: just did, no error, but doesn't hide the icon |
| 14:41.17 | Thaoky | just tried, it works when fubar is enabled, not when it's disabled, but my goal is in fact to hide the icon when fubar is disabled, but the plugin doesn't seem to allow it |
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| 14:42.56 | dafire | hmm.. when fubar is disabled and you don't want an icon why do you need fubarplugin ? .9 |
| 14:43.18 | dafire | is it possible to disable the plugin ? :) |
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| 14:44.29 | Thaoky | I don't think I expressed it correctly, I'm using the fubar libs for users who use fubar (obviously), but for users who don't, the libs are still loaded, and hook the addon's icon to the minimap, which I'd love to remove |
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| 14:45.14 | CIA-58 | 03zhinjio 07NewDB * r81999 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (5 files): |
| 14:45.16 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:45.18 | CIA-58 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.20 | CIA-58 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.22 | CIA-58 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.24 | CIA-58 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:47.46 | Josh_Borke | Thaoky: i thkn you need to talk to ckknight |
| 14:48.19 | Thaoky | I think I have to |
| 14:48.36 | Thaoky | it must be something stupid, I'm sure I'm missing an easy thing |
| 14:49.18 | ckknight | howdy. |
| 14:49.24 | Thaoky | \o/ |
| 14:49.31 | Thaoky | just the one I need :) |
| 14:49.46 | CIA-58 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r82000 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (ARLDataminer.lua AckisRecipeList.lua): |
| 14:49.48 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 14:49.50 | CIA-58 | - Fixed a minor error with the data miner |
| 14:49.52 | CIA-58 | - Aligned a few comments ;) |
| 14:50.19 | Thaoky | ckknight: would you have a few minutes for me ? (private chan maybe ?) |
| 14:51.14 | Josh_Borke | talk here so i can see the solution |
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| 14:52.13 | Thaoky | i'm with ckknight, I'll tell you his solution :) |
| 14:52.28 | ckknight | whatever works |
| 14:52.31 | ckknight | I'm only half here |
| 14:52.35 | ckknight | working on wowace import stuff |
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| 14:52.45 | dafire | what is the best irc client for mac ? :) |
| 14:53.03 | ckknight | Colloquy is what I use |
| 14:53.24 | dafire | i'll check .. thanks :) |
| 14:53.48 | dafire | i currently evaluate macos on my pc to decide if my next laptop will be a macbook ;) |
| 14:56.13 | ckknight | alright |
| 14:56.14 | Pucmel | freecoolin |
| 14:56.31 | Pucmel | overpriced 2005 hardware with freebsd + some ui |
| 14:57.31 | dafire | macbooks might be a bit more expensive but their hardware is rated good in most tests |
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| 15:00.55 | whatsinthename | is there a list somewhere for all the properties of StaticPopupDialogs i can change |
| 15:01.10 | Funkeh` | loes |
| 15:03.50 | ckknight | dafire: just upgrade your ram manually, then it's far smoother |
| 15:04.58 | Fisker- | O hai i just upgraded ur ram |
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| 15:08.15 | CIA-58 | 03zeksie * r82001 10ZOMGBuffs/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid/ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid.lua: ZOMGBuffs_BuffTehRaid: Fix for error on line 1989. |
| 15:11.58 | AckisWork | someone who knows Ace3 look at http://ace.pastey.net/96665 and let me know which is "better" |
| 15:12.27 | nevcairiel | doesnt really matter |
| 15:13.29 | AckisWork | no performance gain/loss with one way or the other? |
| 15:13.45 | AckisWork | does LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):GetAddon(MODNAME) do anything special? |
| 15:13.54 | nevcairiel | it just returns the table reference |
| 15:13.59 | nevcairiel | same as your global lookup there |
| 15:14.11 | AckisWork | k |
| 15:14.16 | AckisWork | looks more "geeky" though :D |
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| 15:22.18 | CIA-58 | 03LordFarlander * r82002 10Baldrick/ (. Baldrick.toc embeds.xml): |
| 15:22.18 | CIA-58 | Baldrick: |
| 15:22.19 | CIA-58 | - Add LibBabble-Zone-3.0 as an embedded |
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| 15:34.00 | KriLL3 | are there any details yet on the mythical new pvp items coming to the PTR/3.0.2 ? |
| 15:34.32 | KriLL3 | and does the patch that add those items reset your honor/bg tokens or is that first when you get LK? |
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| 15:38.28 | KriLL3 | They really should remove the Personal Mole Machine from bg/raids etc... |
| 15:38.36 | KriLL3 | use it in AV and half the raid vanishes |
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| 15:39.58 | Lukian | KriLL3, I assume it's when you upgrade your account to LK, or the night they patch the servers for final release |
| 15:40.14 | Lukian | I'm a little pissed off about the removal of honour marks |
| 15:40.47 | Lukian | My shaman only recently hit level 70 and I'd farmed about 75 of each of the WSG AB in the various twink brackets :( |
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| 15:41.25 | Lukian | not to mention I haven't actually had a chance to pvp on some of my characters at 70 yet, so the honour they've earned from minor/world pvp will be lost :( |
| 15:41.49 | Lukian | furthermore, there should be no need to reset either --- the inital pvp sets should be shit (and they are). |
| 15:42.42 | KriLL3 | I just hope they drop bg marks, it sucks ass to farm wsg for marks |
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| 15:43.55 | Lukian | I'd be happy with an honour reset and keeping the marks, but not both >< |
| 15:46.05 | Lukian | If they allowed the marks to be *individually* traded for honour, that would be acceptable too |
| 15:46.47 | Lukian | at least that way you can trade in some excess marks of one (or more) types and still acquire a few pieces of gear with your marks/existing honour |
| 15:51.43 | winkiller | anyone got any huge framerate drop lately? I'm trying to figure out which addon might be the case for 2-3 weeks already, but I'm kind of hopeless atm. neither memory nor cpu profiling shows anything |
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| 15:53.58 | charon | on beta? maybe search the forums, apparently the new shadow code is expensive |
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| 15:55.11 | nevcairiel | shadows are always expensive |
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| 16:01.26 | charon | somehow physics can figure them out in constant time though. |
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| 16:01.48 | digmouse | morning |
| 16:01.50 | nevcairiel | even constant time can be expensive enough, heh |
| 16:03.13 | charon | i'll ask the mice how that works |
| 16:03.38 | nevcairiel | mice? :D |
| 16:03.53 | charon | pan-dimensional beings. |
| 16:04.16 | stew_a | is there a vaguely reliable test for if an addon is on 3.0 or 2.4 |
| 16:04.49 | nevcairiel | local WotLK = select(4, GetBuildInfo()) >= 30000 |
| 16:05.04 | stew_a | awesome, thanks |
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| 16:10.31 | CIA-58 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r82003 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (19 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:10.33 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:10.37 | CIA-58 | - Data miner update |
| 16:10.39 | CIA-58 | - File header updates |
| 16:10.41 | CIA-58 | - Data miner run, items now have bop/boe properties correctly assigned |
| 16:11.19 | fewyn | yay new build |
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| 16:15.11 | ShaneSveller | live or beta? |
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| 16:15.30 | fewyn | beta ShaneSveller of course |
| 16:15.39 | fewyn | we're not going to see a new live patch for about a month |
| 16:15.50 | ShaneSveller | you think it will be that long? |
| 16:16.55 | ShaneSveller | I was thinking Mid-Oct, but what do i know |
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| 16:17.18 | fewyn | mid to late october |
| 16:17.24 | fewyn | a few weeks for wotlk release |
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| 16:19.04 | ShaneSveller | right |
| 16:20.08 | ShaneSveller | lulz, Tigole: "--Many class changes. You won't like the ones made to your own class but you'll think the changes made to the 9 other classes are all overpowered." |
| 16:20.32 | ShaneSveller | "--Many class changes. You won't like the ones made to your own class but you'll think the changes made to the 9 other classes are all overpowered. " that'd be nice |
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| 16:23.14 | kagaro | hrmmm beta client tells me no patch available atm |
| 16:23.26 | stew_a | its not up in the patchsequencefiles yet |
| 16:24.14 | nevcairiel | it was just posted a few minutes ago |
| 16:24.18 | fewyn | yea, they just took down the realms stew_a |
| 16:24.28 | fewyn | won't see the patch downloadable for maybe an hour |
| 16:24.34 | stew_a | indeed |
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| 16:30.56 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-64-g61eb457 TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 16:31.05 | ckknight | woo, all works |
| 16:31.13 | nevcairiel | yay |
| 16:31.24 | Fisker- | why so test? |
| 16:34.45 | ckknight | nevcairiel: gimmeh advice on something |
| 16:34.57 | nevcairiel | whats that? |
| 16:35.08 | ckknight | should it say test-bravo or Test Bravo (which is what its display name is)? |
| 16:35.12 | ckknight | for the repo bot itself |
| 16:35.20 | nevcairiel | short name is better |
| 16:35.23 | nevcairiel | because |
| 16:35.23 | ckknight | okay |
| 16:35.24 | nevcairiel | its short |
| 16:35.30 | ckknight | I'm gonna agree |
| 16:35.30 | nevcairiel | and you can do |
| 16:35.34 | nevcairiel | @project test-bravo |
| 16:35.38 | Repo | nevcairiel: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 16:35.39 | ckknight | just wanted someone else's opinion |
| 16:35.41 | nevcairiel | or not |
| 16:35.42 | ckknight | ah, dammit |
| 16:37.41 | nevcairiel | considering how long some projects display names are ... <.< |
| 16:38.06 | nevcairiel | badboy vs BadBoy: Anti Spam Automatic Reporter |
| 16:38.08 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 16:38.58 | ckknight | yea, true |
| 16:39.46 | Fisker- | is the short name basically just the same as the addon folders name? |
| 16:39.53 | nevcairiel | no |
| 16:40.06 | nevcairiel | You can make it be |
| 16:40.12 | nevcairiel | but you can choose anything =P |
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| 16:41.17 | ckknight | may have found the issue... |
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| 16:42.06 | ckknight | @project test-bravo |
| 16:42.06 | Repo | ckknight: http://beta.wowace.com/projects/test-bravo/. Test Bravo. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 7 days ago |
| 16:42.11 | ckknight | yep |
| 16:42.28 | Fisker- | @project yourmom |
| 16:42.28 | Repo | Fisker-: No project found that matches 'yourmom' |
| 16:42.30 | Fisker- | damn |
| 16:44.47 | CIA-58 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r82004 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (8 files in 2 dirs): |
| 16:44.47 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:44.48 | CIA-58 | - Changed vendor/trainer/mob/quest parsers into their own method, will allow for easier updating |
| 16:45.02 | Hjalte | Fisker-: You mom is here. |
| 16:45.47 | wraithan | YourMom - Nags you to clean up your bags, do the farming, and when you miss a raid it scolds you. |
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| 16:51.34 | Kuja^ | lol |
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| 16:54.07 | CIA-58 | 03ominous * r82005 10ClassTimer/options.lua: ClassTimer: Added iconSide back in |
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| 17:07.08 | CIA-58 | 03ominous 07WOTLK * r82007 10ClassTimer/ (Locales/zhCN.lua Locales/zhTW.lua options.lua): ClassTimer: Merged the changes from trunk |
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| 17:15.35 | Lonny` | Can anyone help me with a simple pattern ? http://wowi.pastey.net/96667 |
| 17:15.59 | ShaneS|afk | should any WA addon that is WotLK-friendly work from the version I'd get through WAU? or do i have to manually SVN a branch or something |
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| 17:21.46 | NivFreak | new beta build coming eh |
| 17:22.15 | nevcairiel | truth |
| 17:23.42 | Zynderps | it'll nerf your class and buff every other! |
| 17:23.46 | Josh_Borke | lua> print(("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):match("<t>(%w)(%w+)</t>")) |
| 17:23.46 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: nil |
| 17:23.52 | Josh_Borke | lua> print(("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):match("<t>")) |
| 17:23.52 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: <t> |
| 17:23.56 | Josh_Borke | lua> print(("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):match("<t>(%w)")) |
| 17:23.57 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: a |
| 17:24.02 | Josh_Borke | lua> print(("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):match("<t>(%w)(%w+)")) |
| 17:24.02 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: a, bc |
| 17:24.06 | Dashkal | glyph vendor *nomnomnom - maybe - nom nom* |
| 17:24.07 | Josh_Borke | lua> print(("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):match("<t>(%w)(%w+)</t>")) |
| 17:24.07 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: nil |
| 17:24.10 | Josh_Borke | lua> print(("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):match("<t>(%w)(%w+)<%/t>")) |
| 17:24.11 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: nil |
| 17:24.22 | Josh_Borke | obviously the problem is with the </t> |
| 17:24.50 | Lonny` | yeah |
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| 17:25.34 | Lonny` | Can't figure it out, spent a good 3 hours now :P |
| 17:27.21 | NeoTron | Last night was my guilds' last night in SWP. |
| 17:27.58 | NeoTron | the split is made and it was a suitable night. few weeks ago we killed M'uru. Last night all night was spent wiping first on Kalecgos and then failing to kill Brutallus. |
| 17:30.01 | Jagannath | Anyone use ArkInventory? |
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| 17:31.05 | Lonny` | Josh_Borke: Can't I use question mark to filter it ? |
| 17:31.16 | Lonny` | I'm not sure how it works here really |
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| 17:32.10 | Josh_Borke | Lonny`: not with patterns :-D |
| 17:32.17 | Lonny` | ahh :/ |
| 17:32.33 | Lonny` | Any other way to solve it ? |
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| 17:35.39 | Lonny` | I guess I'll have to be creative :D |
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| 17:37.32 | Josh_Borke | Lonny`: the problem is %w doesn't match whitespace |
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| 17:40.12 | Lonny` | Ahh |
| 17:40.24 | Lonny` | Yeah I know hmm :P |
| 17:43.53 | charon | lua> ("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):match("(%b<>)(.*)(%b<>)") |
| 17:43.53 | lua_bot | charon: <t>, abc abc abc, </t> |
| 17:44.15 | charon | hmm, what part exactly do you want? |
| 17:44.34 | Josh_Borke | the abc's seperated |
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| 17:45.03 | Lonny` | something like <t>Abc Abc Abc</t> |
| 17:45.23 | Lonny` | Well, <t>abc abc abc</t>results: Abc Abc Abc |
| 17:45.29 | Lonny` | oops |
| 17:45.36 | Lonny` | <t>abc abc abc</t>results: Abc Abc Abc |
| 17:45.46 | Lonny` | yeah something like that |
| 17:47.02 | profalbert | can I claim addon-projects in the beta.wowace as mine? |
| 17:47.03 | charon | ("abc abc abc"):gsub("(%w)(%w*)", function (a,b) return a.upper() .. b end) |
| 17:47.08 | charon | lua> ("abc abc abc"):gsub("(%w)(%w*)", function (a,b) return a.upper() .. b end) |
| 17:47.08 | lua_bot | charon: luabot:1: bad argument #1 to 'upper' (string expected, got no value) |
| 17:47.12 | charon | *sigh* |
| 17:47.16 | Lonny` | :P |
| 17:47.19 | charon | lua> ("abc abc abc"):gsub("(%w)(%w*)", function (a,b) return a:upper() .. b end) |
| 17:47.19 | lua_bot | charon: Abc Abc Abc, 3 |
| 17:47.27 | charon | close :p |
| 17:47.30 | Lonny` | yeah |
| 17:47.54 | Lonny` | Now we just need to resolve the brackets :) |
| 17:48.03 | Lonny` | or handle them even |
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| 17:48.33 | Josh_Borke | no one cares about the brackets :-P |
| 17:48.38 | Lonny` | haha :D |
| 17:48.46 | charon | do it in two steps. this is programming, not regexp brainfuck |
| 17:48.48 | Lonny` | poor brackets :P |
| 17:49.11 | Lonny` | brainfuck nicely put :) |
| 17:52.29 | charon | that's a programming language |
| 17:52.39 | charon | the name nicely captures its design principles |
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| 17:55.38 | CIA-58 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r82008 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 17:55.40 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:55.42 | CIA-58 | - Some more dataminer updates, for raids/instances, 4 more flags left to do which IMO are all going to be manual unless kagaro does some more tooltip parsing for me ;) |
| 17:56.49 | Stanzilla | Ackis and kagaro are a nice couple |
| 17:56.58 | kagaro | lols |
| 17:57.12 | kagaro | I swear ive been his bitch the last few days |
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| 17:59.07 | AckisWork | haha |
| 17:59.14 | Josh_Borke | lua> ("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):gsub("<t>(.*)</t>", function(s) return s:gsub("(%w)(%w*)", function(a, b) return a:upper()..b end) end) |
| 17:59.15 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: text textAbc Abc Abc text., 1 |
| 17:59.21 | Josh_Borke | damn, so close! |
| 17:59.28 | Dotted | any way to figure out what addon causes a freeze of the wow client when you gain aggro? |
| 17:59.33 | Josh_Borke | lua> ("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):gsub("(<t>)(.*)(</t>)", function(s) return s:gsub("(%w)(%w*)", function(a, b) return a:upper()..b end) end) |
| 17:59.34 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: text text<T> text., 1 |
| 18:00.06 | ShaneS|work | Dotted: there's some kind of logging that can be enabled IIRC |
| 18:00.47 | Cheads | in BugSack, the window show me this only: [2008/09/22 13:29:17-2264-x159]: ZOMGBuffs-65478\ZOMGBuffs.lua:135: bad argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got string) |
| 18:00.56 | Cheads | is there some more info about this besides the normal window? |
| 18:01.30 | Josh_Borke | lua> ("text text<t>abc abc abc</t> text."):gsub("(<t>)(.*)(</t>)", function(s) return s:gsub("(%a)(%a*)", function(a, b) return a:upper()..b end) end) |
| 18:01.30 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: text text<T> text., 1 |
| 18:01.31 | Lonny` | Josh_Borke: I'll just do something like <t>(.+)</t> and parse everything in the callback :) |
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| 18:02.02 | Josh_Borke | yea, that's what i was trying to do :-P |
| 18:02.10 | Lonny` | :D |
| 18:04.45 | NivFreak | uggg |
| 18:04.49 | NivFreak | just lost my best rogue |
| 18:04.54 | NivFreak | work pwned |
| 18:05.04 | NivFreak | it's so freaking close to xpac, it's hard to get new people |
| 18:05.30 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I just split my guild. |
| 18:05.38 | NivFreak | split? |
| 18:08.21 | Primer | Why is that? |
| 18:08.51 | NeoTron | creating a new 10 man raiding guild |
| 18:09.15 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.30 | NeoTron | mainly because SWP really burned me out on raid and guild leadership and raiding in general |
| 18:09.37 | Jagannath | Do any of you guys use ArkInventory? |
| 18:09.49 | Primer | But why do people disband for expansions? |
| 18:09.55 | NeoTron | plus 16 hrs of raiding + preparation to raid + management tasks taking up too much times.. and some recent dropoff in raiding |
| 18:10.12 | Jagannath | Because there's like no point to get T6 anymore lol. |
| 18:10.23 | NeoTron | Primer: I'm not disbanding the guild but.. in this case because there's an opportunity to raid progressively in a 10 man guild |
| 18:10.46 | NeoTron | and overall yeah because why bother paying tons of gold an time for gear I won't use in a few months |
| 18:10.47 | Jagannath | Organizing 10 people is way easier than 25. |
| 18:10.51 | NeoTron | much |
| 18:11.00 | NeoTron | I'll actually enjoy playing the game again |
| 18:11.01 | Jagannath | That's what's going on with my guild atm. |
| 18:11.15 | Jagannath | A lot of people stop showing up etc. cause they're like, why bother with the xpac so close. |
| 18:11.30 | Primer | NeoTron: but in general, why do guilds disband when expansions come? People in guild and trade chat last night were talking about this last night |
| 18:11.53 | Jagannath | So we're making a 10 man group when the xpac is released. We were shooting for clearing BT/Hyjal before Wotlk is released but meh. |
| 18:12.12 | Jagannath | I think 4/5 Hyjal 4/9 BT is pretty good for making the guild 2 weeks ago =p |
| 18:13.11 | NeoTron | Primer: because things naturally go stagnant |
| 18:13.38 | Primer | I'm selling off all the things I've been hoarding |
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| 18:13.50 | Primer | before the economy tanks |
| 18:13.52 | Jagannath | I've been stocking up on herbs =p |
| 18:14.00 | Primer | like, the 7 20 slot bags I have |
| 18:14.12 | Primer | and the 2 28 slot herb bags |
| 18:14.15 | NeoTron | I will do that as well |
| 18:14.16 | Jagannath | Lots of people are going to do inscription I'm sure, and I'll have all the herbs they need...for a price =p |
| 18:14.29 | NeoTron | I need to figure out what I'll do with my 2200 cloth and 360 bolts :P |
| 18:14.41 | Jagannath | Haha. Give to me! |
| 18:14.41 | Primer | I've pondered going nuts collecting low level herbs |
| 18:15.06 | Jagannath | I've been going for higher level herbs |
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| 18:19.03 | Primer | well, my understanding was that the market would be starved for low level herbs, not higher level herbs |
| 18:20.05 | CIA-58 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r82009 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (ARLDataminer.lua RecipeDB/ARL-Alchemy.lua): |
| 18:20.06 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:20.08 | CIA-58 | - Few more changes to miner before running it |
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| 18:26.14 | KriLL3 | why is coldarra down? |
| 18:26.37 | nevcairiel | patch |
| 18:27.42 | KriLL3 | bah, how dare they patch when I want to log in? |
| 18:29.32 | EthanCentaurai | purl :D! |
| 18:29.33 | purl | d is Soraya_'s unique version of the n disease. There is no cure. |
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| 18:29.50 | EthanCentaurai | o_O |
| 18:30.12 | EthanCentaurai | purl cares! |
| 18:30.13 | purl | http://fc84.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/250/5/9/59a3aef170fd4fd5f70d04db60b9a928.gif |
| 18:30.25 | dafire | i need help with mac-wow .) if i have it windowmode-maximized .. how do i switch to other windows ? :) |
| 18:30.58 | KriLL3 | alt+tab? |
| 18:31.07 | whatsinthename | is it possible to call /dump from within the mod |
| 18:31.19 | dafire | no .. alt-tab don't work .) |
| 18:32.00 | KriLL3 | .) ? |
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| 18:32.23 | dafire | broken smiley .) |
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| 18:35.52 | dafire | ckknight ? :) |
| 18:36.10 | ckknight | howdy |
| 18:36.23 | ckknight | dafire: apple-m |
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| 18:36.35 | ckknight | wait |
| 18:36.40 | ckknight | that switching windowed-fullscreen |
| 18:36.45 | ckknight | if you're windowed, apple-tab should work |
| 18:36.50 | dafire | yes... that's good too |
| 18:36.54 | CIA-58 | 03julith * r82010 10GridStatusHostileUnit/GridStatusHostileUnit.lua: |
| 18:36.55 | CIA-58 | GridStatusHostileUnit: |
| 18:36.57 | CIA-58 | - code cleanup |
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| 18:37.01 | CIA-58 | - testing of new hostile detection |
| 18:37.06 | dafire | thanks :) |
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| 18:46.20 | KriLL3 | is there a way to know what quests you've completed? |
| 18:46.46 | KriLL3 | I want to do a quest that requires 3 before it, but I have no idea which of them I've completed, if any. |
| 18:47.08 | ckknight | sadly no, without tracking it yourself |
| 18:47.30 | KriLL3 | that's kinda lame |
| 18:48.40 | Dotted | any way to see the names of the various frames on my UI? i got a star icon thingy stuck in the middle of the screen and i cant figure out what causes it |
| 18:51.14 | EthanCentaurai | Dotted: mouseover the star icon thingy and use /dump GetMouseFocus(). the frame name of the icon thingy will appear at the top of the spam. |
| 18:51.30 | EthanCentaurai | or /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
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| 18:52.08 | Dotted | worldframe :/ |
| 18:52.51 | NeoTron | Transmute: Earthstorm & Skyfire Diamond, Cooldown removed <-- I want the cooldown on the glass removed dang it |
| 18:56.42 | dafire | with devtools from wowi you see the frame stack... so you see all frames under your mouse |
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| 19:09.03 | CIA-58 | 03ackis * r82011 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList.lua: AckisRecipeList: Change default option for sorting to follow the new format |
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| 19:11.57 | NeoTron | this one is even better |
| 19:14.37 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-65-g1db5976 TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 19:16.21 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-66-g290d286 TestBravo.lua: blah |
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| 19:17.46 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-67-g6cd7424 TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 19:21.56 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-68-g35a48f3 TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 19:22.29 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-69-g69a7b9f TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 19:23.07 | ckknight | grr |
| 19:27.26 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-70-gc829741 TestBravo.lua: blah |
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| 19:28.10 | AckisWork | blah |
| 19:28.13 | AckisWork | (felt left out) |
| 19:30.04 | Stanzilla | http://files.filefront.com/WOW+Wrathgate+1024avi/;11881764;/fileinfo.html < that's sooo awesome |
| 19:30.10 | Stanzilla | Massive spoiler tho |
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| 19:31.06 | Tornhoof | filefront is too slow |
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| 19:31.44 | KriLL3 | Ackis: collectionator doesn't work on live does it? would be nice if you want to gather pets/mounts etc prior to LK |
| 19:32.06 | AckisWork | KriLL3: no, it will work (maybe) once 3.0 comes out but there's no GUI, no db, etc |
| 19:32.17 | AckisWork | been focusing on the ARL rewrite |
| 19:32.25 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 19:32.33 | AckisWork | it's #2 on the list however |
| 19:32.36 | KriLL3 | I was a bit confused when I installed it and it didn't seem to do anything =P |
| 19:32.48 | AckisWork | #3 is CNF and #4 if Welfare Epics |
| 19:33.01 | KriLL3 | isn't there a way to tag addons that aren't yet usable? |
| 19:33.12 | dafire | oh.. nice new komodo features |
| 19:33.15 | dafire | New Source Code Control checkout wizard, supporting CVS, Subversion, |
| 19:33.16 | dafire | Mercurial, Bazaar and Git |
| 19:33.44 | AckisWork | well it's toc is 30000 :P |
| 19:34.03 | KriLL3 | well it doesn't work in the beta either ;) |
| 19:34.13 | AckisWork | no because it's alpha :P |
| 19:34.21 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 19:35.53 | AckisWork | lol |
| 19:35.57 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-71-g24447fa TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 19:36.52 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-72-g9dadff6 TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 19:37.50 | ShaneSveller | dafire: isn't Komodo a web IDE? rails and whatnot? |
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| 19:38.26 | Repo | 10test-bravo: 03ckknight * v0.1-73-g056fe84 TestBravo.lua: blah |
| 19:39.24 | ckknight | woo, it worked! |
| 19:41.01 | Tornhoof | hmm, and what is the difference to the output where you said grr? |
| 19:41.04 | dafire | ShaneSveller: it supports many big scripting languages :9 |
| 19:41.08 | dafire | ckknight: grats ? |
| 19:43.10 | ckknight | the packager now uses git archive |
| 19:43.23 | ckknight | Tornhoof: testing the packager, not the repo bot |
| 19:43.44 | Tornhoof | k |
| 19:44.07 | dafire | i thought it would be great if the svn trunk is actually a git branch in the repo .9 |
| 19:45.25 | ckknight | we're importing em all as svn :-P |
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| 19:50.35 | harl | http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=N9cO33wxIWQ&fmt=18 |
| 19:55.18 | CIA-58 | 03ackis 07NewDB * r82012 10AckisRecipeList/AckisRecipeList/ (15 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:55.20 | CIA-58 | AckisRecipeList: |
| 19:55.22 | CIA-58 | - Fixed a bug with the data miner |
| 19:55.24 | CIA-58 | - Ran dataminer (2555 seconds) |
| 19:55.26 | CIA-58 | - Need to work on the instance stuff, not sure why it's failiing |
| 19:55.28 | CIA-58 | - ie: Frost Oil has -- Instance: 36 - Uldaman, but location ID 36 = Alterac Mountains |
| 19:58.49 | PProvost|work | So... X-Email is the official way to bind my WowAce project to my Curse account? |
| 19:59.08 | Stanzilla | yup |
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| 19:59.11 | PProvost|work | Boo |
| 19:59.15 | PProvost|work | But whatever |
| 19:59.48 | nevcairiel | Or just bug us afterwards |
| 19:59.56 | nevcairiel | not recommended :P |
| 20:00.04 | PProvost|work | Yeah, I know. I just don't like publishing my email address in TOC files |
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| 20:00.18 | AckisWork | PProvost|work: do it: foo AT bar DOT com |
| 20:00.30 | PProvost|work | And that helps what? LOL |
| 20:00.34 | AckisWork | spam bots |
| 20:00.45 | PProvost|work | Hahaha... you think? lol |
| 20:00.51 | AckisWork | some yes :P |
| 20:00.52 | EthanCentaurai | PProvost|work: make a seperate one just for your addons :) |
| 20:01.02 | thul | http://fc49.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/268/1/2/Vintage_Model_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day |
| 20:02.06 | PProvost|work | nevcairiel: when does this need to be done by? |
| 20:02.29 | nevcairiel | friday |
| 20:02.34 | PProvost|work | k |
| 20:02.44 | nevcairiel | (hopefully, anyway) |
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| 20:04.10 | CIA-58 | 03Brimmstone * r82013 10SurgeonGeneral/: Initial Creation |
| 20:06.30 | PProvost|work | nevcairiel: What should we do if we want a project killed? |
| 20:06.41 | PProvost|work | Delete it from SVN? Or assign it and kill it on curse? |
| 20:06.53 | nevcairiel | i dunno, ask Kaelten :P |
| 20:07.14 | Kaelten | the latter |
| 20:07.19 | dodga | uhm.. so how can I cast Mind Blast while my target is afflicted by Mind Flay... :D |
| 20:08.04 | PProvost|work | Kaelten: How about addons that never got updated to 2.4 and so don't show up on files? Update their TOC too? Or are you guys skipping those? |
| 20:08.45 | Kaelten | we're importing everything in trunk |
| 20:09.32 | PProvost|work | okay |
| 20:09.40 | nevcairiel | we'll do housekeeping after 3.0 |
| 20:09.42 | PProvost|work | Lots of old crap in there that is totally unmaintained. |
| 20:09.44 | PProvost|work | Gotcha |
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| 20:17.39 | PProvost|work | vhaarr: You want to own the X-Email for ClosetGnome_Switcher or want me to take it? |
| 20:17.53 | vhaarr | PProvost|work: I can if you don't want it |
| 20:18.07 | PProvost|work | You've maintained it for the last year... |
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| 20:18.10 | PProvost|work | :) |
| 20:18.16 | PProvost|work | I just hacked it out at the beginning. LOL |
| 20:18.23 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 20:18.29 | PProvost|work | Want me to update the TOC or do you have it? |
| 20:20.45 | PProvost|work | How about X-Status: Abandoned |
| 20:20.46 | PProvost|work | LOL |
| 20:21.25 | PProvost|work | (returning to other thread) |
| 20:21.44 | PProvost|work | vhaarr: To close.. you go ahead and take over CG_Switcher |
| 20:22.53 | FtH|Daemona | hmmm servers down for hours and no client patch yet? |
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| 20:23.45 | PProvost|work | They are probably patching the server one piece at a time. |
| 20:23.48 | PProvost|work | Client patch comes last |
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| 20:28.16 | CIA-58 | SurgeonGeneral |
| 20:28.20 | CIA-58 | - Initial Revision |
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| 20:28.34 | CIA-58 | SurgeonGeneral |
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| 20:29.03 | Primer | someone needs to educate that dude |
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| 20:29.20 | CIA-58 | 03pprovost * r82017 10Broker_Bags/Broker_Bags.toc: Broker_Bags: Updated X-Email in TOC |
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| 20:29.57 | ckknight | Primer: well, the new wowace is supposed to be more elitist and kick dumb people out |
| 20:30.11 | Primer | excellent |
| 20:30.20 | Primer | start with that dude :) |
| 20:30.20 | ckknight | out meaning transfered to curseforge |
| 20:30.29 | ckknight | what about Alar? |
| 20:30.32 | ulic | haha |
| 20:30.34 | AckisWork | and ackis |
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| 20:30.58 | ulic | I just avoid commiting and loiter, what category does that make me? |
| 20:31.11 | AckisWork | anyone have a list of pet Spell IDs from wowdb? |
| 20:31.46 | Primer | ulic: "useless" |
| 20:32.46 | nocts|work | Wait, so the wowace community is the elitist one, and the curseforge is for dumb people? |
| 20:33.42 | Stanzilla | yep |
| 20:33.50 | Stanzilla | *pats curseforge project* |
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| 20:35.04 | Zyndrome | YAY |
| 20:35.06 | Zyndrome | BOTS |
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| 20:35.10 | Fisker- | fucking win |
| 20:35.13 | elite3vil | lol. |
| 20:35.14 | Zyndrome | smacks ckknight with a red Swingline stapler |
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| 20:35.28 | Fisker- | >:3 |
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| 20:35.37 | Zyndrome | laffo |
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| 20:35.48 | SportChick | problems? |
| 20:36.03 | Stanzilla | nah, just the usual |
| 20:36.12 | elite3vil | Nothing out of the ordinary. =P |
| 20:36.38 | nevcairiel | i really wonder why people do that |
| 20:36.43 | nevcairiel | not like we do something evil |
| 20:36.46 | elite3vil | bordom, more than likely. |
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| 20:38.34 | PProvost|work | Anyone ever tried decoding it? It might be a binary file. |
| 20:40.17 | ckknight | it's not a binary file, just an asshole |
| 20:40.24 | ckknight | ignore him and he'll go away |
| 20:41.03 | ulic | that was ordnary people hating on the elitists :) |
| 20:41.08 | NivFreak | man |
| 20:41.10 | NivFreak | my locks are crying |
| 20:41.13 | NivFreak | another ISB nerf |
| 20:41.13 | NivFreak | haha |
| 20:41.35 | NivFreak | I told them I'm just bringing 14 hunters to every raid after 3.0 |
| 20:41.50 | Primer | ISB == ? |
| 20:41.57 | Primer | Improved Shadow Bolt? |
| 20:42.01 | NivFreak | yes |
| 20:42.10 | Primer | Affliction is the new Destro! |
| 20:42.22 | Primer | I can't wait! |
| 20:43.05 | FtH|Daemona | ... they nerfed the shit out of rogues :( |
| 20:43.16 | Kaelten | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5e1e31b085bc38026faa6b1e37693311.png |
| 20:45.12 | nocts|work | FtH|Daemona: What happened? |
| 20:45.46 | FtH|Daemona | nerf a 3/6/9 talent to 2/4/6 etc ... |
| 20:45.48 | NivFreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.52 | NivFreak | wow |
| 20:46.48 | nocts|work | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043 < likely to be my next case |
| 20:47.24 | NivFreak | damn, TG is still 15% miss =/ |
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| 20:47.43 | Throngy | yoohoo everybody |
| 20:50.26 | NivFreak | they are hinting that we get an undead invasion again soon! |
| 20:50.27 | NivFreak | so hot! |
| 20:50.52 | p3lim | Just me or is Fish really slow? |
| 20:51.09 | p3lim | (fish.wowace.com) |
| 20:51.41 | fewyn | stabs the new curse client |
| 20:52.34 | Throngy | any docs for libsink-2.0 hiding anywhere? |
| 20:53.17 | Kody- | [13:51] * fewyn stabs the new curse client -- care to elaborate on why you don't like it? |
| 20:53.17 | Throngy | and am i right in thinking i can use it to route output to various addons/ui bits? |
| 20:53.47 | fewyn | Kody- i was trying to install 3.0 addons via it and it didn't work and kolie declined the bug report and didn't say why. |
| 20:54.05 | Kolie | You could ask :) |
| 20:54.18 | Kolie | What ticket # or link? |
| 20:54.53 | fewyn | 381 |
| 20:54.53 | fewyn | didn't notice you in here =p |
| 20:54.53 | Kolie | @ticket curse-client-beta 381 |
| 20:54.53 | Repo | Kolie: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/381-not-installing-current-version-of-addons-on-curse-forge/. 381 - Not installing current version of addons on CurseForge. Reported by: fewyn. Type: Defect. Updated: 2 hours ago. Status: Declined. Priority: Medium. Votes: 0. Comments: 1 |
| 20:55.16 | Kolie | You should read the comment I added on the ticket. |
| 20:55.16 | Stanzilla | Throngy: http://wowace.com/wiki/SinkLib |
| 20:55.17 | fewyn | oh |
| 20:55.18 | fewyn | nvm |
| 20:55.23 | fewyn | ah |
| 20:55.29 | fewyn | any chance to have it not ignore them then? |
| 20:55.40 | fewyn | especially if i click the install via client button? |
| 20:55.48 | syeren | Well the new Curse looks just as ugly as the old one :< |
| 20:55.51 | fewyn | otherwise it's confusing |
| 20:56.02 | Kolie | The plan is to per addon specify what level of release you want, and wether you want embedded / disembedded. |
| 20:56.23 | fewyn | cause I'd "assume" that clicking the install button (such as I did http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/x-perl-unit-frames/files/15-3-0-0f/ there) would install that version specifically |
| 20:56.34 | Kolie | It installs from the projects feed it looks like. |
| 20:56.45 | Kolie | And not a specific version feed, which is how I mentioned it should behave :) |
| 20:56.53 | fewyn | ah |
| 20:56.54 | Throngy | Stanzilla: hmm, i searched wowace and somehow didn't find that, thanks :/ |
| 20:57.03 | Stanzilla | np |
| 20:57.09 | Kolie | But as is, it only will install/update to releases. |
| 20:57.23 | ckknight | syeren: it's meant to change the backend, not the frontend |
| 20:57.44 | fewyn | I tend to like to run the bleeding edge versions of the addons, I just assumed it worked that way =p |
| 20:57.44 | syeren | Well it seems faster ckknight :p |
| 20:57.44 | fewyn | I'll probably stick to manual downloads for the meantime then |
| 20:57.44 | Kolie | You'll get the option to soon enough. |
| 20:57.45 | ckknight | yea, it should be |
| 20:59.00 | Kolie | fewyn: what addon is that? Im going to code it in now. |
| 20:59.10 | fewyn | i was doing x-perl specifically |
| 20:59.19 | fewyn | I was just trying to poke at the new curse client |
| 20:59.22 | fewyn | to see how it worked |
| 20:59.23 | Kolie | Yea I need an example to see what info I get from the server to do it with. |
| 20:59.32 | fewyn | and was going to use beta as my genuia pig instead of my live ui |
| 20:59.51 | fewyn | which is why i was bugged by it not installing the right version =p |
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| 21:00.21 | Throngy | had searched for LibSink... d'oh |
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| 21:07.56 | Belazor | Kolie: How come the "Game Version" field on Curse have an impact on what Client registers as latest version? |
| 21:08.28 | Kolie | Belazor: Can you clarify what you mean? |
| 21:08.43 | Belazor | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2775/ <-- lacks "Game Version" set for last two releases |
| 21:08.49 | Belazor | and as such the client doesn't see them as updated |
| 21:08.55 | Belazor | it* |
| 21:09.24 | Kolie | I think you answered your own question. It appears that the addon service only lists addons with a version that is compatible with the game. |
| 21:09.34 | Kolie | It also only lists releases. |
| 21:09.37 | Kolie | ( currently ) |
| 21:10.12 | Belazor | :p yea but I was just wondering if the game version field was supposed to be used for beta/alpha tags and such, and if it would be bad to make it fetch stuff that doesn't have game version set XD |
| 21:10.27 | Kolie | The releases themselves are marked as alpha/beta/release |
| 21:10.34 | Kolie | It doesn't have to do with the game version. |
| 21:10.38 | Belazor | hm ok |
| 21:10.59 | Kolie | The client doesn't know, care, or receive any information about game version as a matter of fact. |
| 21:11.15 | Kolie | That list is all handled server side. |
| 21:11.30 | Belazor | I see, well it should be updated to list those without game version then XD |
| 21:11.53 | Kolie | Thats for validation reasons, and I disagree, the release should say what version it goes with. |
| 21:12.12 | Kolie | If we ever did want to only install for game version X, we would need that information. |
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| 21:12.22 | Belazor | well here's the author right now XD |
| 21:12.24 | Kolie | Hi tuller. |
| 21:12.47 | Tuller | hello |
| 21:12.49 | Tuller | what did I do? |
| 21:12.50 | Belazor | That's what I call timing XD |
| 21:12.51 | Kolie | Can you set the version of the game the addon is good for in your releases :) |
| 21:13.04 | Kolie | Specifically, OmniCC |
| 21:13.14 | Tuller | I do :P |
| 21:13.20 | Kolie | The last two are not set. |
| 21:13.24 | Belazor | u lie! |
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| 21:13.30 | Kolie | http://www.curse.com/downloads/details/2775/ |
| 21:13.34 | Tuller | you've left out some critical information :P |
| 21:14.01 | Stanzilla | "on curse" |
| 21:14.15 | Tuller | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/omni-cc/files/20-2-2-1/ |
| 21:14.27 | Tuller | curseforge has it, therefore its a bug kaelten issue :P |
| 21:14.30 | p3lim | where can I see my svn pw? |
| 21:14.33 | p3lim | cant remember |
| 21:14.39 | nevcairiel | I bet curse doesnt know 3.0.2 :D |
| 21:14.40 | Kolie | let me check cuse beta.. |
| 21:14.49 | ckknight | no, Tuller |
| 21:14.52 | Belazor | well that explains it XD |
| 21:14.53 | p3lim | on wowace |
| 21:14.57 | ckknight | this is a "let's wait until new curse arrives" issue |
| 21:15.12 | ckknight | p3lim: no soup for you, just reset it. |
| 21:15.19 | Tuller | alternatively, http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/downloads/list, http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=20779 |
| 21:15.19 | NivFreak | wtb mac curse client |
| 21:15.21 | NivFreak | pst |
| 21:15.21 | Kolie | Belazor: its marked as beta anyways, you couldn't nstall it. |
| 21:15.40 | Belazor | ah ok, I'll just shut up until curse beta arrives where all this will be more clear XD |
| 21:15.41 | Kolie | heh im looking at the interface to the mac cc right now :P |
| 21:15.54 | NivFreak | <-- willing tester |
| 21:16.03 | p3lim | ckknight: where? |
| 21:16.09 | Kolie | ill email you a copy, but its not even alpha. |
| 21:16.13 | ckknight | p3lim: /home/repository-authorization/ |
| 21:16.22 | NivFreak | niv@simplylinux.org |
| 21:16.28 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:16.31 | p3lim | that didnt help me much :p |
| 21:16.41 | ckknight | p3lim: I don't see how it didn't |
| 21:16.49 | ckknight | www.curseforge.com/home/repository-authorization/edit/ |
| 21:16.51 | Tuller | also there's no "my projects" thingy on curse? |
| 21:17.07 | Fisker- | @rep somekindofwarhammeraddon |
| 21:17.08 | p3lim | 2315.12 <p3lim> on wowace |
| 21:17.09 | Fisker- | damn |
| 21:17.10 | Fisker- | i fail |
| 21:17.11 | Tuller | cursebeta that is |
| 21:17.12 | ckknight | Tuller: there's one on curseforge |
| 21:17.14 | Fisker- | @repo >:3 |
| 21:17.17 | ckknight | p3lim: oh, current wowace? |
| 21:17.21 | p3lim | yeah |
| 21:17.25 | Kolie | NivFreak: tell me your not PP |
| 21:17.26 | Kolie | C |
| 21:17.36 | ckknight | p3lim: um, *shrug*. you can wait until we transition, then there'll be no point :-P |
| 21:18.56 | Tuller | ckknight: so is the workaround to add my stuff to my favorites? :) |
| 21:19.15 | ckknight | Tuller: I actually don't know |
| 21:19.17 | ckknight | sorry |
| 21:21.01 | Kolie | hey NivFreak: Present in ur inbox. |
| 21:21.42 | whatsinthename | New event-driven reminder addon alpha posted on curse http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/reminderplus/ |
| 21:21.42 | NivFreak | thank you kolie |
| 21:21.58 | NivFreak | what's the best forum for feedback? |
| 21:22.00 | Kolie | let me know if your computer melts, or its one of the ones that become radioactive. |
| 21:22.16 | Kolie | Please dont give feedback based on that copy :) |
| 21:22.19 | NivFreak | hahah |
| 21:22.20 | NivFreak | ok |
| 21:22.25 | Kolie | IRC PM if its that one. |
| 21:22.31 | NivFreak | k |
| 21:22.44 | NivFreak | anything I should shy away from? :) |
| 21:22.59 | Kolie | I give you no documentation or warning, other then its not even an alpha. |
| 21:23.04 | NivFreak | some feature that runs "rm -Rf /; echo HAHAH NOOB|wall" |
| 21:23.14 | Kolie | :) It could be in there I have no idea... |
| 21:23.17 | NivFreak | haha |
| 21:23.23 | Kolie | Its running on my machine. |
| 21:23.35 | Kolie | The place I put the .app has some files extracted in that dir, which it shouldnt do... |
| 21:23.41 | p3lim | What is the language name of the Gnomish binary thing? |
| 21:23.42 | Kolie | it wont auto pickup your game paths, youll have to set them. |
| 21:23.55 | p3lim | its upper, like 'DARNASSIAN' |
| 21:24.00 | Kolie | The links on the website wont work, dont try them. |
| 21:25.13 | NivFreak | np |
| 21:25.31 | NivFreak | I'll try it out tonight |
| 21:57.45 | NeoTron | so why the hell is there a tailoring cloak enchant to increase attack power? |
| 21:58.40 | dafire | because not only caster can get tailoring ? |
| 21:59.00 | NivFreak | why would anyone else do it... |
| 21:59.06 | NivFreak | for mooncloth? :P |
| 21:59.17 | dafire | magic carpet mount ;) |
| 21:59.26 | NeoTron | I guess someone would get it for a crafting alt |
| 21:59.28 | NeoTron | but never for a main |
| 21:59.45 | NeoTron | or rather, shouldn't give anyone a reason to pick up tailoring for their main unless they are a cloth user |
| 22:00.00 | Hjalte | Maybe a druid or something, if they could use the tailoring sets for anything. Then they would be able to give their cat and bear cloaks attack power. |
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| 22:00.20 | dafire | there won't be tailoring sets in wrath afaik |
| 22:00.28 | Hjalte | With the change to leatherworking (spell damage to bracer), is enchanting then any better? |
| 22:00.42 | Hjalte | I have a warlock with tailoring/leatherworking |
| 22:00.48 | NivFreak | I'm probably going to drop enchanting and either get inscription or JC |
| 22:00.55 | NivFreak | depending on what the final glyphs turn out to be |
| 22:01.07 | Hjalte | I'm unsure if I should keep leatherworking or go for something else. |
| 22:01.12 | NeoTron | interesting. aimed shot instant now |
| 22:01.18 | NivFreak | NeoTron: scary as shit imo |
| 22:01.33 | NivFreak | so, JCing will get me an extra 33 stamina |
| 22:01.45 | NivFreak | enchanting with get me something like 16 I'd imagine |
| 22:01.52 | NeoTron | I'm still deciding what professions to get on my DK |
| 22:01.58 | NivFreak | inscription might get me some better gameplay |
| 22:03.02 | Dashkal | I'm seriously considering blacksmithing/inscription |
| 22:03.17 | selckin | lw enchants > blacksmithing |
| 22:03.22 | NivFreak | yea, I'm keeping blacksmithing |
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| 22:03.41 | Dashkal | lw enchants are nice, so are enchanting ring enchants. |
| 22:04.10 | NeoTron | Dashkal: me too |
| 22:04.29 | NeoTron | although not sure |
| 22:04.35 | Dashkal | Weather or not Dashkal becomes a scribe depends mostly on if I feel I really _need_ that fourth glyph |
| 22:04.46 | Dashkal | which of course depends on the final DK glyph list |
| 22:07.02 | Dashkal | mining is also a possibility. free stamina isn't a bad thing :p |
| 22:10.50 | NeoTron | mining gives stamina? |
| 22:11.37 | Dashkal | yep |
| 22:11.39 | dafire | yes |
| 22:12.11 | Dashkal | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53040 |
| 22:13.21 | Arrowmaster | somehow from what ive seen of the glyphs and how they seem to be using them to balance instead of doing it properly and having them just be extra, i think inscription is going to be the new leatherworking |
| 22:13.31 | Dashkal | oh boo, they made it health instead of stamina. oh well |
| 22:14.55 | [SW]Dodge | i see tanks respeccing herb/mining :D |
| 22:15.30 | Dashkal | herbalism is rather nice too. that extra healme would be nice (to compare to BC content) during times like Prince's oh my god phase |
| 22:15.57 | Dashkal | I use it while tanking in beta for that same purpose |
| 22:16.01 | leech2k | glyphs are so lame |
| 22:16.09 | Dashkal | Esp since I often don't _have_ a healer in leveling groups |
| 22:16.17 | leech2k | What do people that do both PvE and PvP do? |
| 22:16.27 | Dashkal | leech2k: they're cheap. swap them out |
| 22:16.55 | leech2k | That is just more hassle added to the the already 50g respec a couple times a week. |
| 22:17.05 | leech2k | Which hopefully they fix like they said they will. |
| 22:17.15 | Dashkal | then you have two other options: don't swap them and just pick a balance, or level a second toon for the purpose |
| 22:17.39 | leech2k | yeah, but they its like punishing people who want to do both |
| 22:18.07 | Dashkal | *sighs* "not giving you something someone else has" != "punishing" |
| 22:18.32 | leech2k | like != |
| 22:18.58 | leech2k | You have to either farm more, or be disadvantaged. |
| 22:19.06 | Dashkal | The price you pay for being effective in both roles is the hassle of switching between those roles |
| 22:19.18 | leech2k | Yep. |
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| 22:19.51 | leech2k | I sure hope they get cheap quick. |
| 22:20.02 | Dashkal | Just have one yourself... |
| 22:20.40 | leech2k | I may have to. Just depends what it takes to learn the glyphs I will need I guess. |
| 22:20.49 | Dashkal | the glyphs themselves shouldn't ever be too bad (unless you end up with a penchant for the ones at the top tier of vanilla herbs) |
| 22:21.40 | leech2k | Hopefully when blizzard does the 2 specs thing (if they actually do) they do 2 glyph pages also. |
| 22:22.46 | nevcairiel | that rumor still hangs around, but no blue post or change to the game indicate it ever being done =P |
| 22:23.00 | leech2k | I know :-( |
| 22:23.35 | dafire | it will have some sort of cooldown i guess.. and probably only usable in taverns or something like that |
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| 22:23.49 | leech2k | something like that |
| 22:24.06 | Dashkal | I don't think people are going to get what they want to get. the 50g is irelevant with dailies. It's the trip to the trainer than upsets people |
| 22:24.11 | leech2k | as long as it isn't 100g a week, but who knows maybe money will be much much easier like it was in tbc |
| 22:24.40 | leech2k | If they just let you loot like 1g off people in bgs and arena it would solve the problem :-) |
| 22:25.07 | leech2k | instead of the lke 8s |
| 22:25.10 | NeoTron | and remove the repair bills in raiding of course |
| 22:25.22 | leech2k | and pvp.... |
| 22:25.24 | dafire | most player in bg are not more worth |
| 22:25.24 | Dashkal | Mind you I've never had much sympathy for those who really are looking to live their entire game lives at the arena master... |
| 22:26.21 | leech2k | I do about 10-20 on 6 teams a week. So I guess I spend a bit of time there. |
| 22:26.40 | leech2k | Some people do 100+ a week though. |
| 22:27.27 | Dashkal | I'm more talking about the player who never leaves that one spot in shattrath except for the arena vendor |
| 22:27.53 | Dashkal | The kind of player that makes me wish there was a permanent arena realm |
| 22:28.06 | NivFreak | move arena to tourney realms only imo |
| 22:28.15 | *** join/#wowace Polarina (n=Polarina@freecode/mentor/polarina) |
| 22:28.21 | Polarina | Hi. |
| 22:28.23 | leech2k | They don't really hurt anything unless they are selling people ratings :-) |
| 22:28.29 | Dashkal | NivFreak: that would be step 2 :p |
| 22:28.43 | NivFreak | no, step 2 is to stop balancing PVE around arena |
| 22:28.47 | NivFreak | or rather, trying to |
| 22:28.52 | Dashkal | leech2k: lil background: I'd like to see arenas spun off into their own game entirely. _removed_ from normal servers. |
| 22:29.03 | Dashkal | let them balance for pvp and leave my game alone |
| 22:29.08 | leech2k | Because of balance issues? |
| 22:29.11 | NivFreak | yes |
| 22:29.21 | Polarina | Can I bring in my bot here? All it does is calculating mathematical expressions like: 2 + 2 * (1 + 1) |
| 22:29.40 | NivFreak | I'm tired of seeing shit nerfed because it caused arena balance issues |
| 22:29.44 | NivFreak | a great example |
| 22:29.47 | NivFreak | DRINKING FOR FUCKS SAKE |
| 22:29.49 | Dashkal | lua> 2 + 2 * (1 + 1) |
| 22:29.50 | lua_bot | Dashkal: 6 |
| 22:29.53 | leech2k | It seems one major reason wow is so popular is becuase it is all thing to all people :-) |
| 22:30.05 | Dashkal | Polarina: sure there's a need? :p |
| 22:30.05 | leech2k | NivFreak: are you a druid? |
| 22:30.12 | NivFreak | no |
| 22:30.13 | NivFreak | warrior |
| 22:30.14 | NivFreak | ;P |
| 22:30.19 | leech2k | close enough |
| 22:30.19 | NivFreak | my alt is a priest |
| 22:30.20 | Polarina | Dashkal: Thanks. |
| 22:30.32 | NivFreak | I don't pvp with druids, don't worry |
| 22:30.35 | clad|sleep | Polarina: he was asking, not saying. |
| 22:30.36 | leech2k | I play a priest on my main. I have no complaints really. |
| 22:30.36 | *** part/#wowace dafire (n=warlock@dslb-088-070-075-011.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:30.39 | clad|sleep | i.e. "Are you sure there's a need" |
| 22:30.47 | Dashkal | ^^ |
| 22:30.53 | NivFreak | leech2k: it pisses me off waiting between pulls for my water to start to actually restore mana |
| 22:30.53 | Dashkal | I certainly didn't mean to come off as dismissive |
| 22:30.55 | leech2k | Seeing druids all the time is getting a little old. |
| 22:31.00 | Polarina | Dashkal: I want to show other people it. Can I bring it in here? |
| 22:31.13 | leech2k | NivFreak: tru enough :-) |
| 22:31.14 | Dashkal | ahh, there's a purpose. But I'm not one to ask :p |
| 22:31.15 | nevcairiel | We already have enough bots here <.< |
| 22:31.29 | leech2k | NivFreak: But, with regen the way it is now who needs water. |
| 22:31.37 | Polarina | nevcairiel: It only responds when someone talks to it. |
| 22:32.06 | Dashkal | leech2k: that should be corrected as seeing _resto_ druids :p |
| 22:32.12 | NivFreak | Dashkal: wow, 500 health from mining? |
| 22:32.14 | Dashkal | Part of the reason I'm bitter about the arena is that I'm feral |
| 22:32.20 | Dashkal | NivFreak: yep |
| 22:32.26 | NivFreak | ok... so scratch JC |
| 22:32.35 | NivFreak | man, to have a gathering profession again |
| 22:32.37 | NivFreak | that would be amazing |
| 22:32.48 | NivFreak | but I suspect inscription will still win |
| 22:32.51 | Dashkal | It was a very good change on their part |
| 22:33.08 | Dashkal | Herbalism: self heal, Mining: +health, Skinning: +crit |
| 22:33.13 | nevcairiel | for 50 stamina you unlearn your profession that would probably give you the 50 stamina through those better epic gems or so ? =P |
| 22:33.43 | Dashkal | nevcairiel: you'd be hard-pressed to get 50 stamina worth of gems given that the JC only gems are unique-equipped... |
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| 22:34.17 | nevcairiel | I still think its rather silly :D if 30k or 30.5k stamina .. shrug |
| 22:34.19 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: I gain 33stam from JC in wrath |
| 22:34.26 | NivFreak | that's it |
| 22:34.43 | nevcairiel | so its even 30.3k vs 30.5k |
| 22:34.46 | nevcairiel | seems useful |
| 22:34.46 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 22:34.58 | Dashkal | I'm inclined to agree that the 500 health is competition. It's not far and away better, but it's a valid option |
| 22:34.58 | NivFreak | JC is a worthless profession |
| 22:35.05 | NivFreak | mining can actually generate money :) |
| 22:35.10 | Dashkal | erm? |
| 22:35.14 | nevcairiel | so can JC if you play it right |
| 22:35.17 | NivFreak | sure |
| 22:35.19 | NivFreak | I have a 375 JC now |
| 22:35.22 | Dashkal | NivFreak: You need to have a chat with Xinuhan :p |
| 22:35.23 | NivFreak | I have to mine ore |
| 22:35.26 | NivFreak | to prospect it |
| 22:35.27 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:35.28 | Polarina | NivFreak: Herbalism will be the best money profession at 13th of November 2008. |
| 22:35.34 | NivFreak | Polarina: of course |
| 22:35.35 | Dashkal | JC/Enchanting can make cash hand-over-fist |
| 22:35.46 | NivFreak | how so |
| 22:35.47 | leech2k | My priest if jc and it gimps me so hard. |
| 22:35.51 | nevcairiel | Buy ada-ore, prospect, cut, sell |
| 22:35.53 | leech2k | Not being a tailor. |
| 22:35.53 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 22:36.01 | Dashkal | Polarina: sooner than that. Inscription opens with 3.0.2, not WotLK |
| 22:36.03 | leech2k | I made a lot of money though :-) |
| 22:36.04 | NivFreak | Dashkal: what are you DEing |
| 22:36.08 | Polarina | Dashkal: o.O |
| 22:36.13 | Zhinjio | G"morning |
| 22:36.20 | Dashkal | NivFreak: the idea is you buy raw ore off of the auction house and prospect it all |
| 22:36.22 | Polarina | Who's salrave? |
| 22:36.25 | NivFreak | I'm going to drop skinning on my hunter and farm herbs |
| 22:36.31 | Dashkal | NivFreak: you then make stuff to DE out of the green gems and cut the blue ones |
| 22:36.53 | NivFreak | Dashkal: or, I could mine it on main, and send it to an alt with JC to prospect, or a guildie |
| 22:36.54 | nevcairiel | the self-heal buff for herbalism is rather silly, i'm a resto druid already, gimme something useful :/ |
| 22:37.01 | leech2k | Tailoring set is better than 7.25 ... so broke. |
| 22:37.34 | Dashkal | NivFreak: the volumes you can move with JC/Enchanting will blow your mind. Xinhuan was talking about purchasing 5000 gold of ore a day, and making 1000 profit on that |
| 22:37.34 | NivFreak | see, in the end, professions are only really useful for what they give you execlusivly |
| 22:37.56 | NivFreak | I can do all of those things without actually taking the profession |
| 22:38.01 | Dashkal | If gold is a goal of yours, this is a _very_ lucrative option |
| 22:38.07 | NivFreak | this is why you have guilds |
| 22:38.20 | leech2k | I was making 1000g a day at one point just by purchasing raw gems and reselling them cut on ah. |
| 22:38.24 | NivFreak | Dashkal: is there any reason I can't do that without being a JC or enchanter? :P |
| 22:38.33 | leech2k | I think I was first jc on server with every cut though. |
| 22:38.33 | Dashkal | um... I don't know what kind of guild you live in but mine certainly isn't giving me 1k a day from prospected ore + cuts |
| 22:38.40 | NivFreak | uhhh |
| 22:38.44 | NivFreak | I mean doing the work |
| 22:38.47 | nevcairiel | you really want to enslave one guildy to prospect and cut 5000 gold worth of ore? |
| 22:38.59 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt do it |
| 22:39.03 | nevcairiel | not without a serious cut =P |
| 22:39.05 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: I would, and do similar things in trade |
| 22:39.06 | Dashkal | NivFreak: you're missing the point: the auction house will produce FAR more ore than you can |
| 22:39.13 | NivFreak | I do mass DEing for my guildie |
| 22:39.13 | NivFreak | s |
| 22:39.16 | Xinhuan | i can spend up to 3 hours just prospecting 110 stacks of ore daily |
| 22:39.16 | NivFreak | I ask for nothing |
| 22:39.20 | Xinhuan | and then putting up gems on AH |
| 22:39.25 | NivFreak | they used to prospect for me, until I got JC on an alt |
| 22:39.32 | Xinhuan | do you mass DE for your friends 3 hours nonstop? |
| 22:39.38 | Xinhuan | without rest? |
| 22:39.42 | NivFreak | I wouldn't do that for MYSELF non-stop |
| 22:39.49 | NivFreak | but I can spend 30 mins some nights doing it |
| 22:39.55 | Xinhuan | that's the volume i'm talking about ;p |
| 22:39.55 | Zhinjio | I do, actually. just not every night. |
| 22:39.57 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 22:39.57 | Xinhuan | 3 hours nonstop |
| 22:40.07 | Zhinjio | more lkike once a week |
| 22:40.07 | NivFreak | that's of no concern to me |
| 22:40.07 | leech2k | we have a farmer in guild that does stuff like that |
| 22:40.13 | leech2k | she is over 50k gold already |
| 22:40.21 | Dashkal | NivFreak: not the point. All I'm getting at is that JC/Enchanting can make a very large amount of cash. If cash is your goal, this is a very good way to do it, and will work better than simple AH manipulation |
| 22:40.24 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: NivFreak: nevcairiel: howdy |
| 22:40.39 | NivFreak | I have bought 4 epics mounts, outfitted 3 toons in full crafted gear, and I still have plenty of gold left |
| 22:40.43 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: hola :) |
| 22:41.03 | NivFreak | Dashkal: my goal is to effective in my role in the game, excess cash does not help that |
| 22:41.06 | Dashkal | NivFreak: note: "If cash is your goal" :p If not, then of course this isn't worth the time investment to you |
| 22:41.16 | NivFreak | so therefore, to me, JC is worthless now compared to mining |
| 22:41.27 | Dashkal | adding "to me" is rather important there :p |
| 22:41.27 | NivFreak | since at best I'll get 360 health out of JC with kings |
| 22:41.34 | Zhinjio | meh, the market on my server has dropped JC/prospecting to pretty much completely NOT profitable anymore. |
| 22:41.35 | leech2k | JC actually gets good cuts in wotlk |
| 22:41.39 | NivFreak | and I can get 500 from mining |
| 22:41.41 | leech2k | hopefully its worthwhile |
| 22:41.46 | Zhinjio | at best, I make about 5% on the dollar spent. |
| 22:41.55 | Zhinjio | which is completely bullshit way to spend my time. |
| 22:41.56 | NivFreak | leech2k: epic vs unique stam gems is 30 vs 41stam |
| 22:41.57 | Dashkal | but I wouldn't be surprised if you could manage to get 500 health worth of stat points out of JC-only cuts |
| 22:42.01 | leech2k | jc has not been profitable since xpack date was announced |
| 22:42.01 | NivFreak | uniquex3 |
| 22:42.08 | NivFreak | so 33 stam |
| 22:42.10 | NivFreak | for a tank |
| 22:42.18 | Dashkal | leech2k: see my above example of how JC is exceedingly profitable |
| 22:42.21 | Zhinjio | well, I'm wondering what Xinhuan is doing about that for 3 hours a night |
| 22:42.21 | stew_a | is there a restriction on the characters you can keep in savedvariables, or is any ascii character ok? |
| 22:42.21 | nevcairiel | There are also BoP rings and necks |
| 22:42.28 | NivFreak | I get 3 extra sockets from BS, which means I can get an extra 90 stam |
| 22:42.30 | nevcairiel | and for 140 hit points? :D |
| 22:42.54 | NivFreak | once again, gathering professions have excellent low-effort money making potential |
| 22:43.05 | NivFreak | so getting an actual useful gameplay buff to it, is amazing |
| 22:43.20 | Dashkal | Low effort is win :p I do mining runs of SMV which combined with my mote extractor makes me 200g in about 20 minutes |
| 22:43.42 | NivFreak | I made insane amounts of money with TBC launched off of mining |
| 22:43.47 | NivFreak | and it's so easy to level |
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| 22:43.51 | leech2k | So pretty much you are both saying the same thing. AH = more money, colleting = more practical |
| 22:43.52 | NivFreak | costs zero |
| 22:43.52 | Dashkal | mining was obscene in TBC |
| 22:44.16 | NivFreak | leech2k: JC/enchanting isn't the only combo that pays of huge in the AH |
| 22:44.16 | NivFreak | :P |
| 22:44.18 | sylvanaar | nevcairiel what version of ace3 is the working one for wotlk now? |
| 22:44.23 | nevcairiel | trunk |
| 22:44.27 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 22:44.28 | Dashkal | leech2k: certainly. Given the economy today, for me time is worth more than cash. I'd rather spend my time on exclusive things and get the low-effort cash sources |
| 22:45.23 | nevcairiel | I would rather prospect and cut for 30 minutes then fly around trying to find ore, but thats just me |
| 22:45.35 | NivFreak | see, but I'm flying around doing other things |
| 22:45.36 | Xinhuan | and that's because you can code addons while sitting in IF :) |
| 22:45.38 | NivFreak | and stop for ore on the way |
| 22:45.57 | NivFreak | I really enjoy getting out of the cities and seeing the game :) |
| 22:46.08 | NivFreak | I still run random classic raids for fun |
| 22:46.13 | NivFreak | on a semi-regular basis |
| 22:46.18 | NivFreak | variety is great |
| 22:46.28 | nevcairiel | I bet you get alot of useful ore from those zones =) |
| 22:46.30 | NivFreak | AH->BM->Raid is boring :) |
| 22:46.36 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: thorium sells great |
| 22:46.40 | NivFreak | so do arcane crystals |
| 22:46.43 | NivFreak | and dark iron |
| 22:46.51 | nevcairiel | your server is weird |
| 22:46.55 | leech2k | I can't sell my dark iron at all on my server. |
| 22:47.03 | leech2k | The rest is decent though. |
| 22:47.23 | NivFreak | also, the emeralds and azerothian diamonds sell for like 15G each stil |
| 22:47.27 | NivFreak | still |
| 22:47.59 | NivFreak | I've never had problems making money |
| 22:48.01 | nevcairiel | the only ore you can sell for some half-decent price is adamantite here. even khorium is worth nothing anymore |
| 22:48.11 | leech2k | cool thin is though u can use a 50 alt for ur ah stuff (60 for xpack) and just mine/herb on ur main that u fly around with |
| 22:48.14 | NivFreak | yea, khorium and eternium prices are laughable now |
| 22:48.26 | NivFreak | because everyone picks it up doing other stuff |
| 22:48.32 | leech2k | and guess what level a dk starts at :-) |
| 22:48.40 | NivFreak | but people don't hit the old world, so you can usually catch profession power levelers |
| 22:48.50 | nevcairiel | leech2k: my lvl 12 mage can AH just fine, tyvm :P |
| 22:49.09 | leech2k | nevcairiel: but he can't de or jc |
| 22:49.15 | Xinhuan | i have enough gold income to spend to get darkmoon faire exalted ;p |
| 22:49.21 | Xinhuan | about 1/3 of the way there now lol |
| 22:49.23 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:49.26 | leech2k | What for? |
| 22:49.33 | Xinhuan | for my 39th exalted faction ;p |
| 22:49.36 | nevcairiel | he is just crazy like that |
| 22:49.37 | leech2k | I see |
| 22:49.43 | NivFreak | christ, I think I have 12 exalted factions |
| 22:49.47 | NivFreak | you are more inane than me |
| 22:49.50 | NivFreak | for sure |
| 22:49.53 | leech2k | I have 190 days played and I think I only have 15 exalted factions. |
| 22:49.57 | Arrowmaster | are you going for 40 exalted factions before 3.0? |
| 22:50.10 | leech2k | ..on my priest. |
| 22:50.12 | nevcairiel | wasnt 40 impossible right now? |
| 22:50.24 | Xinhuan | that isn't possible for me Arrowmaster, unless i kill my 4 exalted steamwheedel, grind bloodsail and then regrind those 4 back to exalted |
| 22:50.37 | nevcairiel | well, go? |
| 22:50.49 | Xinhuan | and that really would just hurt myself, as doing goblin quests in northrend will kill my bloodsail rep |
| 22:50.58 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 22:51.09 | Arrowmaster | the goblin quests in northrend lower bloodsail? |
| 22:51.11 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 22:51.17 | Xinhuan | u mean they don't? |
| 22:51.23 | nevcairiel | I havent seen goblin quests that were associated with steamweedle, but i mightve forgoten it |
| 22:51.31 | Arrowmaster | afaik the only goblin quests that ever lowered bloodsail were the bootybay ones |
| 22:51.34 | Dashkal | The goblins I've run across in northrend appear to be non-faction |
| 22:51.36 | Xinhuan | i assumed that any quest that gives rep to booty bay has spillover to minus bloodsail rep |
| 22:51.48 | nevcairiel | check the quest on wowhead or so |
| 22:52.00 | Xinhuan | not gonna check thru 1000 new quests! |
| 22:52.10 | leech2k | I need to get up to 100k hks :-) |
| 22:52.11 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: yes but afaik its only the ones that directly give bootybay rep, not spillover |
| 22:52.19 | nevcairiel | use a filter? :P |
| 22:52.27 | Xinhuan | nah just cbf |
| 22:52.27 | leech2k | Now that I think about it.... I hate acheivements. |
| 22:52.34 | Xinhuan | if i do any such grinding, it will be after wotlk release |
| 22:52.34 | leech2k | I will play wow forever now. |
| 22:52.35 | Xinhuan | not before |
| 22:52.40 | Dashkal | if you aren't 0/hated bloodsail you could go do a quick rachet quest and see what happens |
| 22:52.47 | Dashkal | but I imagein you are... |
| 22:53.07 | Xinhuan | of course i am |
| 22:54.01 | leech2k | so any new must see ace based mods? |
| 22:54.40 | Dashkal | But if you have an alt to check with :p |
| 22:56.07 | ckknight | leech2k: you could play another MMO... |
| 23:04.58 | Stanzilla | . |
| 23:06.54 | NeoTron | does anyone know of a free guild website hosting place? want to set something up temporarily |
| 23:18.42 | stew_a | does anyone know of a way to get string.gsub(x, "\000", "something else") to work as you'd expect |
| 23:19.42 | ckknight | stew_a: I know how |
| 23:19.48 | ckknight | I'll tell you the secret for candy. |
| 23:20.26 | ckknight | lua> ("alpha\000bravo\000charlie"):gsub("%z", "-ur mom-") |
| 23:20.26 | lua_bot | ckknight: alpha-ur mom-bravo-ur mom-charlie, 2 |
| 23:20.29 | stew_a | http://www.law.uga.edu/library/amicus/images/photo_CandyBars_large.jpg here's candy, :-) |
| 23:20.57 | stew_a | thanks :-) |
| 23:21.07 | stew_a | does %z match only \000 ? |
| 23:21.10 | ckknight | sure does. |
| 23:21.15 | stew_a | awesome, cheers |
| 23:21.26 | ckknight | "[%z\001-\255]" matches every single character |
| 23:22.25 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight hax! |
| 23:22.29 | ckknight | no u |
| 23:22.41 | [SW]Dodge | no u |
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| 23:37.08 | Zyndrome | http://www.wiiware-world.com/news/2008/09/mega_man_9_challenge_list |
| 23:37.10 | Zyndrome | jesus christ |
| 23:38.59 | *** join/#wowace tjs (n=tjs@mail.fitness2live.com.au) |
| 23:39.04 | tjs | G'day |
| 23:39.13 | tjs | anyone know what the deal with the calendar API is? |
| 23:39.35 | tjs | as in, where's the API to add your own events? |
| 23:41.09 | NivFreak | hrmmm |
| 23:41.15 | NivFreak | rumor has it, stealth TG buff |
| 23:41.47 | syeren | wO |
| 23:41.48 | [SW]Dodge | http://wowcompares.com/0028970/AddOns/Blizzard_Calendar/Blizzard_Calendar.lua |
| 23:41.56 | [SW]Dodge | @ tjs |
| 23:41.57 | syeren | Firefox 3.1 just got rolled out \o/ |
| 23:42.35 | syeren | Aww, no it didn't :( |
| 23:43.06 | [SW]Dodge | DAMN... fckn Outlands keep crashing and crashing :( |
| 23:44.12 | leech2k | on beta? |
| 23:44.18 | [SW]Dodge | no... live :( |
| 23:44.21 | leech2k | o |
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| 23:44.46 | [SW]Dodge | chrashing since 2 days every 30min-2hrs ;S |
| 23:44.46 | leech2k | they are conditioning us for when wotlk comes out |
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| 23:44.59 | [SW]Dodge | lol |
| 23:47.21 | [SW]Dodge | but there is 1 good thing in server chrash. the mini-rollback i accepted a quest, killed the mobs i need, chrash, login -> i'm at the npc where i got the quest and can turn in the quest as it is completed :D |
| 23:47.42 | NivFreak | I actually got a couple quest rewards twice |
| 23:47.42 | Dashkal | small blessings :p |
| 23:47.45 | NivFreak | because of rollbacks |
| 23:47.57 | NivFreak | too bad it wasn't for something useful like trinkets ;) |
| 23:48.29 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 23:48.46 | NivFreak | but I got some enchanting mats out of the deal |
| 23:48.47 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 23:49.13 | NivFreak | damnit, why do they buff warriors on a raid night, I want to play beta! |
| 23:51.34 | leech2k | ur guild is still raiding? |
| 23:51.43 | leech2k | I figured most stopped by now. |
| 23:52.28 | Dashkal | leech2k: guilds will go right up until 3.0.2 (and some past then). Progress will always eventually be meaningless. The goal is to be able to say "we did it" |
| 23:52.56 | NivFreak | why would we stop? |
| 23:52.58 | NivFreak | we like to raid |
| 23:53.07 | ajmitch | some guilds even plan to do BC raids after the release |
| 23:53.09 | NivFreak | we started late enough that we still have progression left |
| 23:53.10 | [SW]Dodge | leech2k: our guild stopped raiding today too as there was not enough people for a raid :( |
| 23:53.19 | leech2k | I was in a hardcore raiding guild when tbc was about to come out and we couldn't get attendance |
| 23:53.24 | NivFreak | I've had to fight attrition, but that's reality |
| 23:53.29 | ajmitch | we've been struggling for numbers, but still raided last night |
| 23:53.32 | NivFreak | we're casualcore |
| 23:53.37 | leech2k | we only got to saph in naxx40 |
| 23:53.38 | NivFreak | 2 nights a week, 3 hours per night |
| 23:53.50 | NivFreak | started in march, we're almost though p2 illidan |
| 23:53.51 | leech2k | NivFreak: o thats nice and casual :-) |
| 23:53.57 | Zyndrome | bleh, FF update |
| 23:54.06 | NivFreak | the only reason we aren't in sunwell is the xpac timing |
| 23:54.10 | Quaiche|work | We're casual and still raid 3 nights a week. Signups are slacking off, but we're still getting in there and having fun. |
| 23:54.43 | NivFreak | my goal for this guild was to kill illy before xpac, it's been about 7 months and we're almost there |
| 23:54.47 | Dashkal | My own guild is fully casual. We just did Kara last night |
| 23:54.49 | NivFreak | should be able to get it done |
| 23:55.12 | Dashkal | NivFreak: if you're on p2, you're probably golden long as the guild still wants to pull it iff |
| 23:55.17 | Dashkal | off* |
| 23:55.45 | Dashkal | Best of luck accomplishing it before 3.0.2 |
| 23:55.48 | ajmitch | we've only got as far as teron gorefiend, raiding 3 nights a week |
| 23:57.51 | *** join/#wowace spats_ (n=spats@mail.fitness2live.com.au) |
| 23:57.52 | Xinhuan | ~logs |
| 23:57.53 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 23:58.10 | NivFreak | Dashkal: yea, and we have one elemental down, it's just fine tuning now |
| 23:58.21 | Dashkal | sweet |
| 23:58.51 | NivFreak | we're doing 7/9 in 3 hours |
| 23:58.53 | NivFreak | almost 8/9 |
| 23:59.06 | NivFreak | if we can just avoid a couple random wipes on either teron/ros/bloodboil |
| 23:59.07 | NivFreak | we'd be there |
