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| 00:01.00 | Jygaa | can somebody tell me how many instances you can visit in a certain timeframe? |
| 00:01.13 | Trela | Ten in an hour, I believe. |
| 00:01.41 | Trela | http://worldofwarcraft.filefront.com/news/Instance_Limit;21957 |
| 00:01.42 | Jygaa | hm must be more like five |
| 00:01.42 | Trela | There. |
| 00:02.31 | Jygaa | ive been in wailing caverns about 6 times now, dragging my twink through it within about two hours and i cant enter another instance (/ |
| 00:02.32 | Jygaa | 8/ |
| 00:03.03 | Trela | I am not sure when or how the timer starts. |
| 00:04.00 | Jygaa | oh okay that link did help :) |
| 00:04.19 | Jygaa | "up to 5 unique instances per hour" "You must wait 1 hour from the time you enter the first instance" |
| 00:07.01 | break19 | question. is fubar gonna work with wotlk? wifey wants to know.. |
| 00:07.06 | Spennig | yes |
| 00:07.16 | Spennig | it's working on the PTR right now. |
| 00:07.20 | break19 | excellent |
| 00:07.30 | Spennig | however.... I can't say the same for all the plugins >_< |
| 00:07.42 | Spennig | so, yes and no might be better |
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| 00:08.05 | break19 | heh. wifey's one of those "I cant live without certain addons" people |
| 00:08.20 | Elgren | aww man |
| 00:08.23 | break19 | even tho I say "uhm, you know there's others one that do basically the same, right?" "I dont care" heh |
| 00:08.27 | Elgren | who can live without cooldownbuttons |
| 00:08.32 | Elgren | not live well anyway |
| 00:08.33 | Spennig | which ones is she "needing" (I am too, so is why i'm trying to test now) |
| 00:08.47 | Elgren | Guys I have a simple question for you code geniuses |
| 00:09.12 | break19 | spenning, no idea, tho updating them for her is gonna be a pain in the butt.. from what I can tell, the curse client wont support her PPC mac |
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| 00:09.41 | Spennig | fun and joy >_< i'm hoping they get a more public link to the mac beta of the CC |
| 00:09.45 | Kilroo | break19: WUU's latest beta claims to have restored support for Curse |
| 00:09.52 | break19 | so for her, its gonna be "find what I can on wowinterface and do everything else manually" |
| 00:09.57 | Spennig | though I'd tell anyone testing, to do an entire backup of both interface and WTF, so you can revert if needed |
| 00:10.09 | Elgren | I have a adon called focusframe for my default looking UI |
| 00:10.10 | Kilroo | It can't BROWSE anything but Wowace, though, which is somewhat less useful than it once was |
| 00:10.14 | Elgren | and the frame have a title |
| 00:10.22 | Elgren | FOCUSFRAME_TITLE = "Focus"; |
| 00:10.30 | Elgren | I would like to remove the title from that frame |
| 00:10.33 | Elgren | anyone know how? |
| 00:11.38 | Arrowmaster | Elgren: just wait until tuesday |
| 00:11.57 | Elgren | ? |
| 00:12.06 | Arrowmaster | 3.0 has builtin focus frame |
| 00:12.18 | Elgren | ah really? |
| 00:12.33 | Elgren | have u screen of that? would like to see position etc :D |
| 00:12.48 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 00:12.57 | Xinhuan | it looks like your 6th party member |
| 00:13.04 | Xinhuan | in positoining that is |
| 00:13.12 | Elgren | alright |
| 00:13.18 | Elgren | frame type is like party aswell? |
| 00:13.21 | Elgren | or big as target? |
| 00:13.32 | Xinhuan | same size as your party1-party4 |
| 00:13.38 | Elgren | ok |
| 00:13.56 | Elgren | im not going to care about this then |
| 00:13.57 | Elgren | ty guys |
| 00:17.44 | Elgren | hum |
| 00:17.55 | Elgren | Im trying to follow updates on bartender4 |
| 00:18.12 | Elgren | where is the latest updates posted, Im on the official forum thread on wowace |
| 00:18.21 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03ananhaid * r106 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 00:18.22 | Elgren | but I dont think I get the latest there |
| 00:18.22 | Repo | -zhCN update. |
| 00:24.45 | Repo | 10raid-cooldowns: 03tsigo 04v1.1-wrath * r9 : RaidCooldowns: Tag 1.1 for 3.0.2/WotLK compatiblity. |
| 00:25.28 | Repo | 10raid-cooldowns_display: 03tsigo 04v1.1-wrath * r59 : |
| 00:25.29 | Repo | RaidCooldowns_Display: Tag 1.1 for 3.0.2/WotLK compatibility. |
| 00:27.28 | Elgren | nevcairiel we need ur update on bartender. to keep the original bottom bar intact |
| 00:31.13 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): :Check method mapped to correct function |
| 00:31.14 | Repo | added Repl section to dictionary |
| 00:31.15 | Repo | implemented 2/8 local functions for :Suggest, works well but performance needs to be improved |
| 00:31.59 | Xinhuan | whats this libspell thing? |
| 00:32.17 | stew_a | its a lib that helps you spell |
| 00:32.46 | Xinhuan | @project lib-spell |
| 00:32.47 | Repo | Xinhuan: 'http://www.wowace.com/projects/lib-spell/. LibSpell. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. What exactly is this library supposed to do? \r Please provide a proper description on when its useful, how its useful, and how to use it.. Leader: 01satkins. Updated: 24 hours ago' |
| 00:32.50 | Xinhuan | time to download it and see |
| 00:33.06 | Xinhuan | wow the link doesn't even work |
| 00:33.12 | Xinhuan | slaps Repo away with a large trout |
| 00:33.54 | Elgren | :/ |
| 00:34.37 | ckknight | link works for me |
| 00:34.41 | stew_a | and me |
| 00:34.53 | Facktotum | Were sorry, youve attempted to access a page that doesnt exist. |
| 00:34.56 | Facktotum | doesnt for me |
| 00:35.07 | ckknight | it's because it's marked as changes required |
| 00:35.10 | ckknight | it's not been approved yet |
| 00:35.17 | ckknight | the author needs to change its description |
| 00:35.17 | Xinhuan | what does that lib do ck? ;p |
| 00:35.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no idea |
| 00:35.29 | Xinhuan | since we can't see/download it hehe |
| 00:35.41 | stew_a | lol i told you what it does when you asked earlier |
| 00:35.57 | ckknight | are you 01satkins? |
| 00:36.00 | stew_a | yes |
| 00:36.03 | Xinhuan | does it like, come with a full dictionary of all 77000 english words? |
| 00:36.11 | stew_a | actually its about 120,000 |
| 00:36.13 | ckknight | stew_a: then fix your description and resubmit |
| 00:36.19 | stew_a | yes working on it ckk |
| 00:36.20 | Xinhuan | well how are we to know if you are 01satkins ;p |
| 00:36.27 | Xinhuan | what a terrible user name! |
| 00:36.38 | stew_a | it is indeed |
| 00:36.39 | Facktotum | lol |
| 00:36.55 | Xinhuan | how much ram does 120000 english words cost in wow lua memory? |
| 00:37.01 | stew_a | about 5 meg |
| 00:37.07 | Xinhuan | lua> 729^2 |
| 00:37.07 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 531441 |
| 00:37.27 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03ananhaid * r45 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Faction-3.0: |
| 00:37.28 | Repo | -zhCN update. |
| 00:37.41 | Xinhuan | are you sure about this lol |
| 00:37.56 | stew_a | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.51 | fewyn | wtb addon to auto sort gbank |
| 00:39.23 | Facktotum | fewyn: mrplow |
| 00:39.46 | fewyn | it does the gbank? |
| 00:39.48 | fewyn | since when? |
| 00:39.53 | Xinhuan | since gbanks were introduced |
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| 00:39.58 | Xinhuan | about april |
| 00:40.27 | Facktotum | slaps fewyn with a gbank |
| 00:42.53 | fewyn | lies faCe| |
| 00:42.55 | fewyn | lies Facktotum |
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| 00:43.23 | fewyn | it does not sort the gbank |
| 00:43.27 | fewyn | unless i'm missing the option |
| 00:45.04 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03Shefki * r1747 DruidManaBar/DruidManaBar.lua: |
| 00:45.05 | Repo | PitBull_DruidManaBar: No longer use LibDruidMana for Wrath since UnitPower() will let us |
| 00:45.05 | Repo | ask for mana even when we have a rage or energy bar. |
| 00:45.56 | fewyn | peers at Xinhuan |
| 00:46.51 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03Shefki * r149 Categories/DruidMana.lua: |
| 00:46.52 | Repo | No longer use LibDruidMana for Wrath since UnitPower() will let us ask |
| 00:46.53 | Repo | for mana even when we have a rage or energy bar. |
| 00:47.10 | Spennig | Factotum: http://ace.pastey.net/98122 = the longass list i'll be going back through of errors form various mods. I just need to dig out the separate ones and fwd them to various authors. |
| 00:47.15 | fewyn | getting my hopes up is sad :( |
| 00:47.21 | fewyn | i was hoping mrplow actually did work |
| 00:47.41 | Xinhuan | i thought it did |
| 00:47.44 | fewyn | nope |
| 00:47.48 | fewyn | it does normal bank |
| 00:47.50 | fewyn | and inventory |
| 00:48.06 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 00:48.08 | Xinhuan | its BankStack then |
| 00:48.10 | Xinhuan | not Plow |
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| 00:48.27 | fewyn | bankstack doesn't either |
| 00:48.36 | fewyn | only does the same things |
| 00:48.52 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7761-BankStack.html |
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| 00:48.58 | Xinhuan | description says it does guild banks |
| 00:49.29 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 00:49.40 | Xinhuan | For guild bank the command are: /sort guild /compress guild /stack bags guild |
| 00:49.42 | fewyn | i've been using bankstack for awhile and didn't see an option for it |
| 00:50.12 | fewyn | there's no quick shortcut button which is why i probably didn't notice it |
| 00:50.50 | Wobin | MrPlow never did guildbanks |
| 00:50.57 | Wobin | because the guildbank API drove me insane |
| 00:51.13 | Wobin | also because my guildleader is OCD |
| 00:51.21 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7601-Prat2.0.html |
| 00:51.25 | Wobin | and I was driving -him- up the wall by messing up his sorting =P |
| 00:51.26 | Xinhuan | author says "Fin" |
| 00:51.30 | Xinhuan | is that right? lol |
| 00:51.50 | Spennig | Wobin: your guildleader sounds like me. |
| 00:52.03 | vithos | heh, i didn't know bankstack workde on guild. i use it all the time, the tooltip doesn't say shit about it |
| 00:52.03 | fewyn | awesome it works |
| 00:52.08 | Facktotum | spenning: holy cow |
| 00:52.15 | Facktotum | you need to update some addons |
| 00:52.33 | fewyn | i wanted to see if it worked =p |
| 00:52.40 | fewyn | this will make my life easier |
| 00:52.41 | fewyn | srsly |
| 00:52.44 | vithos | i wish bankstack would stop randomizing the sorting of my drums of battle though |
| 00:52.49 | Xinhuan | it wouldmake life for others harder |
| 00:52.52 | vithos | so annoying having 4 partially used drums |
| 00:52.58 | Xinhuan | not everyone likes the way bankstack sorts |
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| 00:53.05 | Xinhuan | esp the gbank |
| 00:53.12 | Wobin | gbank is weird |
| 00:53.20 | Wobin | goes down then across |
| 00:53.22 | Facktotum | drums of battle are useless now |
| 00:53.36 | Facktotum | sold some on ah for 1g today |
| 00:54.03 | Spennig | Facktotum: inc PM |
| 00:55.26 | Primer | "Windows cannot find 'Updater.exe'. Make sure bla bla bla...", with a Curse icon in its task bar button |
| 00:55.56 | Primer | click OK, and curse client completely exits |
| 00:56.07 | Primer | tray icon is gone too, that is |
| 00:56.18 | Xinhuan | u see, the gbank is already visually separated into 7 parts |
| 00:56.23 | Xinhuan | in the GUI that is |
| 00:56.33 | Xinhuan | some guilds do their "sorting" based on those 7 parts |
| 00:56.43 | Xinhuan | like first 2 columns = potions, next 2 columns = recipes, etc |
| 00:56.56 | Primer | so restarting up seems to update it, and now it's on 2.0.0.14 |
| 00:57.05 | Xinhuan | running bankstack would just mess it up hehe |
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| 00:59.07 | fewyn | we have 6 bank tabs though Xinhuan |
| 00:59.19 | Xinhuan | every guild's different |
| 01:00.08 | fewyn | tab 1 random crap, tab 2 consumables, tab 3 herbs, tab 4 herbs, tab 5 crafting mats, tab 6 random crap |
| 01:00.45 | Primer | Latest pitbull throwing a bunch of errors |
| 01:00.49 | Groktar | my guild only has 1 tab |
| 01:01.14 | Groktar | too lazy to move it all of the bank alt character |
| 01:01.39 | Trela | What is the last seen comand? |
| 01:01.45 | Trela | What is the last seen command? |
| 01:01.46 | fewyn | ~seen Trela |
| 01:01.47 | purl | trela is currently on #wowace (1d 14h 4m 26s). Has said a total of 81 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: 'What is the last seen command?'. |
| 01:01.50 | Trela | Thank you. |
| 01:01.54 | Trela | ~seen Kaelten |
| 01:01.55 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 2h 55m 17s ago, saying: 'in a loop'. |
| 01:02.01 | fewyn | he's at blizzcon |
| 01:02.09 | Trela | Oh that is correct. |
| 01:02.11 | fewyn | wouldn't expect him for at least another day |
| 01:08.03 | Primer | And my HP text in PitBull is broken... |
| 01:08.33 | Elgren | guys, anyone know of a actionbar mod that alows me to move and scale bars on the screen? |
| 01:08.50 | Elgren | without destroying the base bottombar |
| 01:08.53 | Elgren | like bartender :/ |
| 01:09.49 | Primer | ...itBull\libs\LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Health.lua:38: attempt to call method 'GetUnitCurrentHP' (a nil value): |
| 01:09.55 | Primer | lovely |
| 01:10.03 | Elgren | Primer |
| 01:10.07 | Elgren | you use StarTip? |
| 01:10.12 | Primer | nope |
| 01:10.34 | Elgren | u use some mod with a broken LibMobHealth library |
| 01:10.38 | Facktotum | get an older libmobhealth4.0 |
| 01:10.38 | Elgren | I had the same problem |
| 01:11.14 | Parnic | 3.0.2 is a pretty sure-fire thing for tuesday, right? |
| 01:11.39 | Elgren | ya |
| 01:11.50 | Elgren | my blizzard downloader downloaded 1.52Gb last night |
| 01:12.25 | Primer | Facktotum: Now that I'm using curse, and all my libs within each addon's directory...how exactly do I go about doing that? |
| 01:12.49 | Primer | I mean, doesn't wow use the latest version of a libarary, even if it's within another addon's directory? |
| 01:13.07 | Facktotum | go into pitbull>libs folder and replace libmobhealth4.0 |
| 01:13.30 | Primer | ok |
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| 01:17.12 | Spennig | Xinhaun: Gathermate getting a 3.0 update? |
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| 01:17.34 | Xinhuan | already works in 3.0 |
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| 01:17.38 | Xinhuan | since about 2 months ago |
| 01:17.53 | Spennig | Ok, what about the addins? |
| 01:18.08 | Spennig | Gathermate_Sharing didn't like me earlier |
| 01:20.03 | Xinhuan | your updater probably downloaded the nolib version |
| 01:20.11 | stew_a | if a project on wowace gets rejected for any reason, do you get an email saying so? |
| 01:20.11 | Xinhuan | as opposed to the full version |
| 01:20.22 | Spennig | I puleld it manually from the wowace listing >_> |
| 01:20.24 | Xinhuan | i.e that's a curse client issue, Spennig, not a fault of mine |
| 01:20.31 | Xinhuan | what error did you get? |
| 01:20.35 | Spennig | sec |
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| 01:21.05 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 042.1.1 * r186 : Tagging as 2.1.1. |
| 01:21.06 | Repo | - Repacked with updated Libs |
| 01:21.10 | Repo | - fixed "Disable Bar" setting |
| 01:21.21 | Spennig | Date: 2008-10-12 20:22:22 |
| 01:21.21 | Spennig | ID: 1 |
| 01:21.21 | Spennig | Error occured in: Global |
| 01:21.21 | Spennig | Count: 1 |
| 01:21.21 | Spennig | Message: ...ace\AddOns\GatherMate_Sharing\GatherMate_Sharing.lua line 2: |
| 01:21.22 | Spennig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.25 | Spennig | Debug: |
| 01:21.27 | Spennig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.29 | Spennig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.31 | Spennig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.33 | Spennig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.34 | Xinhuan | ok enough spam |
| 01:21.35 | Spennig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.37 | Spennig | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:21.39 | Spennig | grr |
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| 01:21.42 | Facktotum | dont post code in the channel :\ |
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| 01:21.48 | Facktotum | use ace-pastey |
| 01:21.49 | Spennig | yeah, sorry >< |
| 01:21.49 | Xinhuan | you downloaded the wrong zip |
| 01:21.54 | Primer | hrmm, since PitBull updated, I now have a PitBull/Aura directory, and a PitBull_Aura directory... |
| 01:21.54 | Spennig | hm |
| 01:22.16 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/gathermate_sharing/files/ |
| 01:22.23 | Xinhuan | you should have downloaded v1.01 |
| 01:22.29 | Xinhuan | you downloaded v1.01-nolib |
| 01:22.34 | Spennig | odd, oki |
| 01:22.45 | Xinhuan | note that |
| 01:22.47 | Xinhuan | if you clicked |
| 01:22.48 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/gathermate_sharing/ |
| 01:22.50 | Spennig | the nolib is set as default from the "download" link |
| 01:22.53 | Xinhuan | and just clicked "download" |
| 01:22.57 | Xinhuan | it sent u to the nolib version |
| 01:23.01 | Spennig | heh, k |
| 01:23.08 | Xinhuan | again, that's a wowace issue, yell at ckknight |
| 01:23.13 | Primer | So, I simply removed PitBull/Libs/LibModHealth-4.0 and it's now fine |
| 01:23.14 | [SW]Dodge | Primer: delete all Pitbull folder and re-update (if you are using CC) |
| 01:23.14 | ckknight | Primer: delete your PitBull folder, reinstall |
| 01:23.27 | Xinhuan | ckknight, why is download link pointing at my nolib version ~_~ |
| 01:23.49 | ckknight | because Chip forgot to implement it properly |
| 01:23.56 | ckknight | I'll be talking to him tomorrow |
| 01:23.58 | Xinhuan | priority fix kgo |
| 01:24.05 | ckknight | I agree |
| 01:24.11 | Xinhuan | hella lots of users downloading and complaining about missing libs! |
| 01:24.41 | Xinhuan | there you go Spennig, i yelled :) |
| 01:24.46 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 01:24.49 | Facktotum | licks Xinhuan |
| 01:24.57 | ckknight | trust me, I think it's pretty bullshit, too |
| 01:25.14 | Spennig | Xinhaun: <3 |
| 01:26.17 | Xinhuan | well it needs to be fixed before 3.0 (tomorrow) |
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| 01:27.25 | ckknight | I agree. |
| 01:28.01 | Xinhuan | i noted with amusement yesterday while doing naxxramas (on live) |
| 01:28.09 | Xinhuan | that nobody's TPS was displayed as 0 |
| 01:28.13 | Xinhuan | while doing Loatheb |
| 01:28.17 | Xinhuan | in omen |
| 01:28.19 | Xinhuan | except my own |
| 01:28.31 | Xinhuan | and most ppl had the 0 threat debuff |
| 01:28.34 | Wobin | Were you autorunning into a wall? |
| 01:28.59 | Xinhuan | no, its just the way TPS is calculated, probably isn't very smart |
| 01:29.07 | Xinhuan | any suggestions for how TPS should be calculated? |
| 01:31.14 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r187 Modules/Cooldown_Manager.lua: fixed error on CD end |
| 01:32.13 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 042.1.2 * r188 : Tagging as 2.1.2. (Bugfix) |
| 01:33.48 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r24 / (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 01:33.49 | Repo | FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
| 01:33.50 | Repo | - fixed coloring code for Death Knights (thanks Tristanian) |
| 01:33.52 | Repo | - no more vestigial accessor functions for config code |
| 01:33.56 | Repo | - format options for time-of-reset |
| 01:38.51 | Facktotum | the wow art panel and screenshots are very interesting |
| 01:39.10 | Primer | Ok, deleted PitBull and PitBull_* |
| 01:39.18 | Primer | and...wow crashed |
| 01:39.26 | Facktotum | really? |
| 01:39.42 | Primer | hasn't crashed like this in a long time |
| 01:39.50 | Facktotum | how about you exit wow before deleting addons |
| 01:39.54 | ckknight | lol. |
| 01:40.20 | Primer | Now the health bar issue is back |
| 01:40.37 | Primer | so...deleting PitBull/Libs/LibModHealth-4.0 again... |
| 01:41.12 | Facktotum | this shirt should be given free with the game |
| 01:41.14 | Facktotum | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/october/blizzcon/391011651.jpg |
| 01:41.33 | Primer | ckknight: you aware of this error yet? |
| 01:41.39 | Primer | ...itBull\libs\LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Health.lua:38: attempt to call method 'GetUnitCurrentHP' (a nil value): |
| 01:41.50 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:41.58 | ckknight | that seems like an LMH error |
| 01:42.11 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
| 01:42.12 | Repo | - oops, time was not able to be hidden as advertised |
| 01:42.13 | Repo | - toc version bump |
| 01:42.17 | Primer | deleting PitBull/Libs/LibModHealth-4.0 fixes it |
| 01:43.26 | Repo | 10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam * r52 : DHUD2: |
| 01:43.27 | Repo | -Fixed new Libary repository paths |
| 01:43.27 | Facktotum | libmobhealth4.0 is gone with patch 3.0.2 |
| 01:43.34 | Facktotum | so i wouldn't worry about it |
| 01:44.06 | Primer | I'm not worried about it...only when it breaks my UI |
| 01:44.31 | Facktotum | well if you delete addons while the game is loaded |
| 01:44.40 | Facktotum | your UI will break |
| 01:47.06 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: its probably an error from LibMobHealth-4.0 not upgrading properly or initalizing properly |
| 01:47.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 01:47.54 | Arrowmaster | been happening with other stuff too |
| 01:48.13 | Arrowmaster | due to you guys not removing the svn:keywords on the svn import like you said you would |
| 01:48.43 | Arrowmaster | so every lib is perty much broken until somebody fixes it |
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| 01:50.54 | break19 | see? see? I wasnt the only one with that problem :p |
| 01:51.17 | break19 | I just installed the lib standalone. fixed it |
| 01:51.55 | ckknight | hrm, but it has local MINOR_VERSION = 90000 + tonumber(("$Revision: 41 $"):match("%d+")) |
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| 01:55.36 | Xinhuan | yes nevcairiel did that one |
| 01:55.48 | Xinhuan | he readded svn:keywords back to the libraries |
| 01:55.53 | Xinhuan | and added 90000 to it |
| 01:56.13 | Xinhuan | since library versioning based on revision numbers is central to the lib upgrading system |
| 01:56.26 | Repo | 10libmobhealth-4-0: 03ckknight * r42 LibMobHealth-4.0.lua: |
| 01:56.27 | Repo | check for WotLK, if detected, then short-circuit the functions and return what UnitHealth, etc. would return. |
| 01:56.57 | Xinhuan | on patch 3.0 would you actually delete that lib? hehe |
| 01:56.57 | Arrowmaster | ........ |
| 01:57.10 | Xinhuan | because it would be totally pointless |
| 01:57.24 | Arrowmaster | and fucking logtemplates! |
| 01:57.39 | Arrowmaster | oh wait that was the actual file |
| 01:57.50 | ckknight | on patch 3.0, we get all addons using it to stop using it |
| 01:57.55 | ckknight | then mark it as abandoned |
| 01:58.05 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: can i mark it as abandoned now? |
| 01:58.08 | ckknight | no |
| 01:58.19 | Xinhuan | we're ALL assuming patch is tomorrow though |
| 01:58.25 | Arrowmaster | but you wrote it! |
| 01:58.27 | Xinhuan | it could still be a week away |
| 01:58.31 | Arrowmaster | it perty much IS abandoned! |
| 01:58.35 | ckknight | lol. |
| 01:58.50 | Xinhuan | burn! |
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| 02:05.16 | Primer | Facktotum: I had deleted an addon while wow was running |
| 02:05.31 | Primer | I had exited, then deleted it, then started, then it crashed |
| 02:13.40 | Xinhuan | ~dict drama |
| 02:13.57 | Xinhuan | ~dict 2 drama |
| 02:14.04 | Xinhuan | ~dict 3 drama |
| 02:14.10 | Xinhuan | ~dict 4 drama |
| 02:14.16 | Xinhuan | ~dict 5 drama |
| 02:14.23 | Xinhuan | ~dict 6 drama |
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| 02:25.16 | Parnic | so unithealth is accurate in wotlk? i had no idea. |
| 02:25.42 | Parnic | anyone know which blizzard ui files are currently implementing threat stuff? for a working example |
| 02:26.13 | Parnic | or can anyone tell me if UnitDetailedThreatSituation expects units like "player", "target" or something else? |
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| 02:44.41 | Primer | it's very odd how the patcher seems to re-create patch-2.MPq |
| 02:45.36 | Primer | I mean, that file is 3.5g |
| 02:45.47 | Primer | why can't they figure out a better way of doing this? |
| 02:46.19 | Primer | they're binary patching a 3.5g file...taking forever |
| 02:46.45 | syeren | ckknight, did you update Chinchilla for 3.0 yet? |
| 02:46.54 | ckknight | what needs updating? |
| 02:47.09 | syeren | Calender button hiding and stuff? |
| 02:48.59 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:49.03 | ckknight | no, I've not updated it |
| 02:53.43 | Elgren | Hum, any of you geniuses know how I can hide the stance bar? |
| 02:55.56 | Spennig | Are you using a mod for it, and if yes, which one? |
| 02:56.14 | Spennig | -and- just hide it till mouseover, or for good? |
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| 03:21.25 | Repo | 10adolf: 03ssveller 07master * 19d962f core.lua: [+1 commit] Implemented a very basic role-based system for addon control |
| 03:23.29 | Repo | 10benito: 03ssveller 07master * 380ac71 core.lua: [+1 commit] Several more CVars set |
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| 03:25.31 | Repo | 10fidel: 03ssveller 07master * 338dc75 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Cleared out old comment block, fixing bug with verbose mode |
| 03:25.45 | Primer | nevcairiel: trying to get bartender4 working on WotLK. Is it supposed to work? Out of the box? |
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| 03:27.21 | Primer | Bartender4-4.0\barPrototype\Prototype.lua:72: CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "SecureStateHeaderTemplate" |
| 03:27.46 | Arrowmaster | what version are you using? |
| 03:27.56 | Arrowmaster | doesnt look like the WotLK one |
| 03:28.51 | Primer | oh |
| 03:29.21 | Primer | Guess I need to find that now |
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| 03:31.29 | Primer | seems this is more involved than I figures |
| 03:31.31 | Primer | figured |
| 03:31.36 | Primer | it can't find LibStub |
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| 03:31.43 | Primer | and doesn't include it |
| 03:32.30 | jkeiser4 | So I'm sure that I'm just being dumb, but ... I can't find the Ace2 documentation. The old links all link to the front page, which doesn't seem to point me at it, and searches on wowace.com don't get me to it |
| 03:32.48 | jkeiser4 | Anyone got a pointer of where I can start looking at least? |
| 03:33.26 | Lukian | shouldn't you be using Ace3? :) |
| 03:34.15 | jkeiser4 | I have no issues with doing that :) Last time I asked, I was told Ace3 was really a different beast and wasn't actually "the next version of Ace2", so I didn't go there |
| 03:34.33 | jkeiser4 | Is Ace3 the official successor now, and most people have moved to it? |
| 03:34.49 | Primer | yup |
| 03:34.57 | jkeiser4 | Excellent. |
| 03:35.24 | jkeiser4 | I'll see if I can find those docs. But are the Ace2 docs gone? That project is deprecated? |
| 03:36.35 | Primer | Seems I need to find bartender4-wotlk WITH libs... |
| 03:37.41 | Primer | bah, downloaded beta1, and there's beta2 |
| 03:38.26 | Primer | bah, seems it can't load my prefs file |
| 03:41.34 | Primer | oh, duh, profile |
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| 03:44.34 | Lukian | jkeiser4, best if they are :) |
| 03:45.45 | Arrowmaster | jkeiser4: most stuff is still over at old.wowace.com/wiki |
| 03:46.08 | jkeiser4 | ooh! thanks. I'll move over anyway after I get my current stuff done |
| 03:46.33 | jkeiser4 | So development on Ace2 has stopped modulo bug fixes (and maybe not even that), correct? |
| 03:46.49 | jkeiser4 | I have friends developing in it and I need ammo to convince them to move over too |
| 03:47.12 | jkeiser4 | I'd prefer we can share code |
| 03:48.34 | Arrowmaster | well i did some minor stuff to make it work in ace2 |
| 03:48.42 | Arrowmaster | anything else probably wont be fixed |
| 04:01.23 | jkeiser4 | cool, good to know, thanks |
| 04:04.44 | jkeiser4 | hmm, brain-fart-ish, is there a good queue library for lua? The most efficient and simple way I've thought of involves two arrays, but there must be something simpler |
| 04:06.32 | jkeiser4 | Like, we have a "consume array" and an "add array." New items are added to the "add array." Items are consumed from the "consume array." When the consume array is fully consumed, set consume array = add array and add array = {}. Continue. |
| 04:08.52 | eliteevil | !arena 1950 |
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| 04:11.40 | Arrowmaster | jkeiser4: are you removing items from the consume array so that its empty by the time you are going to do 'consume = add'? |
| 04:12.36 | jkeiser4 | Arrowmaster: I could, but my basic plan is to just keep an index to the next item in the consume array. When you reach the end of the consume array you do "consume = add" |
| 04:13.38 | Arrowmaster | jkeiser4: i would just use table.delete to remove the first index after you use it, then you can just do 'consume, add = add, consume' and swap them |
| 04:14.26 | jkeiser4 | Arrowmaster: will deleting the first index set all the other indices to "index - 1"? |
| 04:14.39 | Arrowmaster | if you use table.delete yes |
| 04:14.45 | jkeiser4 | Arrowmaster: I'm not clear what "consume, add = add, consume" is either :) |
| 04:14.54 | jkeiser4 | Arrowmaster: oh, nice! Then I don't have to deal with any of this shit |
| 04:15.00 | jkeiser4 | Arrowmaster: I didn't realize that |
| 04:15.07 | Shefki | jkeiser4: He means to swap the objects. |
| 04:15.13 | Shefki | So they have opposite names. |
| 04:15.21 | Arrowmaster | jkeiser4: its the same as 'temp = consume; consume = add; add = temp' |
| 04:17.07 | jkeiser4 | If deleting the first index drops the indices of everything else, I think I don't need any of this--I can just keep everything in a single array. Dequeue is "x = queue[1]; table.delete(queue, 1); return x" Enqueue is "table.insert(queue, obj)" |
| 04:17.09 | jkeiser4 | done and done |
| 04:17.39 | jkeiser4 | goes to read up on table.delete |
| 04:19.31 | Primer | How do you get to Dalaran? |
| 04:19.40 | Primer | I went to its crater, apparently... |
| 04:22.03 | Wobin | jkeiser4: function dequeue() return table.remove(queue,1) end |
| 04:22.12 | Wobin | or maybe 1, queue |
| 04:22.20 | Wobin | can't remember offhand the order |
| 04:22.23 | jkeiser4 | Wobin: yep, thanks |
| 04:23.31 | jkeiser4 | I'm implementing a WhoQueue to throttle my /who requests |
| 04:23.58 | jkeiser4 | Since Blizz has limits on how much you can do it |
| 04:26.56 | Repo | 10benito: 03ssveller 07master * e3b45ca core.lua: [+1 commit] Added utility slash command for clearing all 120 action buttons |
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| 04:42.27 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 06wrath 07master * ed04d0a / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add vertical grip to resize columns. Add Test Mode. Add quick right click menu to title bar. |
| 04:44.54 | sacarasc | omen is changing name to omen threat meter, eh? |
| 04:46.45 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:47.09 | sacarasc | then what is omen threat meter? |
| 04:47.14 | Arrowmaster | omen |
| 04:47.31 | Arrowmaster | we just arent allowed to rename it back yet |
| 04:47.38 | Arrowmaster | because it changes the url on curse.com |
| 04:47.48 | break19 | Here's a question for you geniuses... lets say someone tags their addon, but it's got a buggy lib, so the lib gets fixed and tagged as release.. does the packaged "tagged" version of the addon that uses said lib get updated? or must the author update his tag as well? |
| 04:48.18 | Arrowmaster | break19: beta and release zips are never updated |
| 04:48.20 | Arrowmaster | EVER |
| 04:48.27 | break19 | didn't think so |
| 04:48.35 | break19 | just wanted to be 100% sure |
| 04:48.38 | Arrowmaster | supposdly alphas are but ive yet to see it happen |
| 04:49.41 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, wanna test out my latest omen commits? |
| 04:49.54 | Xinhuan | test modes, vertical resize grips, etc |
| 04:50.04 | Arrowmaster | but then i have to get on beta |
| 04:50.06 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1637 / (8 files in 6 directories): |
| 04:50.07 | Repo | Fixed a bug in the Malganis loot table, re-arranged and localised the loot browser menu, made the options window appear on top of the loot browser. |
| 04:50.11 | Xinhuan | is that an issue? hehe |
| 04:50.17 | Xinhuan | i'm running 3 copies of wow as it is |
| 04:50.18 | Arrowmaster | actually yes |
| 04:50.25 | break19 | so.. I can't wait for this scenario to happen: author A tags an addon with a lib that works on live realms, as release, author B tags another addon that happens to use the same libs with a pre-release version that's designed to work on the ptr, but not on live, and mistaggs it.. as release.. uh oh. lol |
| 04:50.50 | Arrowmaster | break19: mostlikely wont happen |
| 04:51.20 | break19 | Arrowmaster: no, probably not.. but stupidity can strike anyone, anywhere.. |
| 04:51.29 | Arrowmaster | most libs around here never get versions that dont work on live |
| 04:52.05 | Arrowmaster | and if one does, its probably from some idiot dev that nobody is going to be using his lib anyway |
| 04:52.53 | break19 | Arrowmaster: you misunderstood. author B mistakenly used the svns, of, say ace3, to support, say wow 3.1, which changes, hell, I dunno.. but wow 3.1 isnt out yet, but the ace3 is since its in ptr.. get where I'm comin from? |
| 04:53.20 | Xinhuan | then bad luck ;p |
| 04:53.22 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 04:53.24 | break19 | exactly. lol |
| 04:53.37 | Xinhuan | in any case, most libs are written in a way that its internals checks for the version number |
| 04:53.39 | Xinhuan | of wow |
| 04:53.42 | Xinhuan | and runs the correct code |
| 04:53.46 | Xinhuan | for each version |
| 04:54.28 | break19 | Xinhuan: yea... I'm just theorizing ways to break it. bored |
| 04:54.42 | Xinhuan | i need suggestions on HOW to calculate TPS in omen |
| 04:54.58 | break19 | take threat, divide by time |
| 04:55.01 | break19 | *ducks* |
| 04:55.10 | ckknight | I have two invites to torrentit, does anyone want one? |
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| 04:55.25 | Arrowmaster | whats torrentit? |
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| 04:55.34 | break19 | meh I dun need aything but my demonoid. |
| 04:55.40 | Xinhuan | well break, that's vague |
| 04:55.45 | Xinhuan | how do you define "time"? |
| 04:56.04 | Wobin | ckknight: I'll have one |
| 04:56.05 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it's a private tracker site that opened in 2004, got shut down because of dutch lobbyists, and reopened a few months ago |
| 04:56.29 | break19 | Xinhuan: imo, time in combat |
| 04:56.33 | Arrowmaster | well if accounts dont expire from inactivity then sure |
| 04:56.42 | Xinhuan | time in combat is nearly impossible to calculate for anyone but yourself |
| 04:57.03 | break19 | then calc for yourself, and base the others off the same timeframe |
| 04:57.18 | break19 | since tps is really only important during combat, imo |
| 04:57.18 | syeren | http://www.xfire.com/live_video/vorrent/ |
| 04:57.20 | syeren | Cool :o |
| 04:57.32 | Xinhuan | this is going to be problematic |
| 04:57.38 | Xinhuan | since "time" isn't a constant |
| 04:57.49 | syeren | ckknight, I guess you're not eligible for the author money thing seems as you don't do your addons anymore? |
| 04:58.04 | ckknight | of the addons that I'm still the maintainer of, I am |
| 04:58.05 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 04:58.17 | syeren | Like Chinchilla :P? |
| 04:58.18 | break19 | syeren: lol.. employees get free access, if I had to guess |
| 04:58.19 | Xinhuan | ckknight, how does the author rewards work? do we get notified in email or what? |
| 04:58.20 | syeren | Uh Oh. |
| 04:58.40 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1638 / (3 files in 3 directories): Improved table register localisation |
| 04:58.41 | syeren | I need a new map addon -_- |
| 04:58.44 | syeren | zzzzz Lazyness. |
| 04:58.45 | Xinhuan | or is there some page on curse that is accessible to see it |
| 04:59.12 | ckknight | Xinhuan: every die, the pie is split up based on download counts and some other numbers. These turn into points, and you'll be able to view them in your curse profile |
| 04:59.28 | ckknight | after about a month or so, we'll open up the store where you can trade in said points for phat lewtz |
| 04:59.51 | Xinhuan | what if, the project leader is inactive? |
| 05:00.03 | ckknight | if people download, they still get points |
| 05:00.11 | ckknight | unless someone usurps them |
| 05:00.16 | syeren | Could someone suggest a minimap addon which has everything in 3.0 / WotLK covered? |
| 05:00.24 | Xinhuan | but contributors don't get points until the project leader assigns them yes? |
| 05:00.39 | syeren | ckknight, according the FAQ the author has to maintain hsi addons in order to receive points :P! |
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| 05:01.03 | ckknight | true, Xinhuan |
| 05:01.09 | ckknight | it's up to the project leader |
| 05:01.23 | break19 | Xinhuan: as I said, calculate the locally displayed tps for your own time-in-combat, if there's threat being generated and you arent in combat, just leave it at 0.. imho |
| 05:01.46 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if that number will be useful break19 |
| 05:02.08 | Arrowmaster | is tps really important to you? or do i need to break out the complex math books |
| 05:02.23 | Xinhuan | well if i don't add TPS numbers, a lot of ppl would bitch |
| 05:02.28 | Xinhuan | esp tanks |
| 05:02.39 | break19 | Xinhuan: I could be wrong, but tps is only useful stuff when you are actively engaged in combat.. if you arent, then why in the hell do you care about tps over threat? heh |
| 05:02.45 | Xinhuan | generally speaking i would want my threat in a sliding window of sorts in the last 5 or 10 seconds for the displayed number to be useful |
| 05:02.54 | Xinhuan | and not the last 10 minutes in a 11 min fight |
| 05:03.04 | Arrowmaster | yeah exactly |
| 05:03.12 | Arrowmaster | how does omen2 do it right now? |
| 05:03.13 | Xinhuan | that presents quite a bit of difficulty |
| 05:03.27 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster: try looking in ThreatTPS.lua in threat-2.0 |
| 05:03.31 | Xinhuan | i don't even understand any of it |
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| 05:04.29 | Arrowmaster | i can think of a way to do it but you wont like it |
| 05:04.42 | Arrowmaster | since you are trying to keep memory usage extremely low |
| 05:04.47 | Xinhuan | shoot |
| 05:04.48 | break19 | <- has two tanks.. I couldn't really care less about tps as long as I stay on top |
| 05:05.27 | Arrowmaster | create 2 tables for every unit on a mobs threat table |
| 05:05.30 | Arrowmaster | one for threat one for time |
| 05:06.33 | Xinhuan | and then....? |
| 05:06.57 | Arrowmaster | every 2 seconds or whenever the update events fire, add the threat and time to the start of every table using table.insert(t, x, 1) and remove the end of the table, keep it like 10 entries max or something |
| 05:07.33 | Arrowmaster | compare the most recent time to the oldest time, and the most recent threat to the oldest threat |
| 05:07.44 | Arrowmaster | you get a threat difference and a time frame |
| 05:08.07 | break19 | well. I'd love to stay and talk about this.. brainstorming is fun as hell.. but I gotta work in the morning. and it's after midnight here... night ya'll |
| 05:09.25 | Xinhuan | so the time frame would be changing a lot |
| 05:09.41 | Arrowmaster | the other option is to break out the complex math to make a formula that uses the threat from the last update and the threat from the current update and the time between them to make a sliding calc |
| 05:10.18 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: well you said the threat updates didnt get fired that often for some right? |
| 05:10.26 | Xinhuan | i have no clue tbh |
| 05:10.32 | ckknight | there's a lot of projects still linked to wowaceSVN: http://www.wowace.com/projects/?search=wowaceSVN |
| 05:10.33 | ckknight | :-( |
| 05:10.35 | Xinhuan | i haven't joined a party on beta ever since that day we were in the same party |
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| 05:15.04 | Xinhuan | anyway, omen3 is "feature complete" now minus tps calcs and pullout bars |
| 05:15.51 | Arrowmaster | no pullout bars pls |
| 05:16.05 | Xinhuan | pullout bars are too tricky |
| 05:16.24 | Xinhuan | hmm wait, actually they are trivial |
| 05:16.26 | Arrowmaster | would rather have a proper simple mode than omen1 style pullout bars that showed threat realitve to a fixed person |
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| 05:16.46 | Arrowmaster | omen1 style ones are useless now considering the info we have |
| 05:17.41 | Xinhuan | pullout bars are trivial simply because i can now always divide "player"/"tanktarget" by "tank"/"tanktarget" |
| 05:17.51 | Xinhuan | to get player/tank |
| 05:17.57 | Xinhuan | on a mob |
| 05:18.37 | Arrowmaster | or you can scan through the threatlist and look for the unitid of the one that says its tanking |
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| 05:20.13 | sylvanaar | so when are they taking naxx out? |
| 05:20.21 | Arrowmaster | 3.0 |
| 05:20.47 | Xinhuan | i'm hella disappointed that my mage T3 ring didn't drop 10 naxx runs in a row |
| 05:20.51 | sylvanaar | i want to update some of the bigwigs modules with my changes |
| 05:20.52 | Xinhuan | i'm still stuck on 8/9 T3 |
| 05:21.26 | Xinhuan | the chances of Mage T3 ring not dropping 10 naxx runs in a row is 9.48% |
| 05:21.54 | Wobin | hehe I read that as "It dropped 9 runs in a row, and I was in line for the 10th one" |
| 05:23.07 | Xinhuan | lua> 1-(8/9)^20 |
| 05:23.07 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0.90516917014294 |
| 05:23.16 | Xinhuan | well ok 9.45% |
| 05:23.34 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 05:23.40 | Xinhuan | lua> (8/9)^20 |
| 05:23.40 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 0.094830829857057 |
| 05:23.45 | Xinhuan | i was right, 9.48% |
| 05:23.47 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 05:24.04 | Lukian | pats Xinhuan |
| 05:24.34 | Xinhuan | LF tester to test omen3 on beta |
| 05:25.07 | Xinhuan | i lied about feature complete |
| 05:25.12 | Xinhuan | i still want to add one feature |
| 05:25.38 | Xinhuan | and that is a toggle to show focus/focustarget threat rather than the standard target/targettarget threat |
| 05:27.18 | Xinhuan | its actually rather trivial to add, only requires a 1 line change, and a bunch of config for it |
| 05:32.24 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1639 / (2 files in 2 directories): Updated PvP Pricing |
| 05:32.50 | quiescens | its feature complete until you intend to add another feature |
| 05:32.52 | quiescens | nodnod |
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| 06:00.52 | digmouse | Xinhuan: Volunteer here |
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| 06:10.55 | sylvanaar | i need help with my prat-3 project description, im so bad at describing things |
| 06:11.14 | syeren | A Chat Addon designed to improve the chat interface. |
| 06:11.16 | syeren | HARD. |
| 06:11.36 | sylvanaar | you are not good at it either |
| 06:11.54 | syeren | Pretty sure I described what the addon is. |
| 06:11.56 | syeren | Or you could go. |
| 06:12.17 | syeren | A MODULAR Chat addon designed to improve upon Blizzard's chat interface. Features include : Blah Blah Blah Blah |
| 06:12.32 | syeren | Got to say modular to get all the faggot EJ kids with their memory shit. |
| 06:13.11 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 06:13.41 | sylvanaar | i put all my libraries into their own addon, that took care of the memory problems |
| 06:17.12 | sylvanaar | and its not a chat addon actually. its a chat addon host, but that's more a technical thing |
| 06:17.31 | sylvanaar | same concept as fubar kinda |
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| 06:18.26 | Trela | sylvanaar: The first time I read about Prat I was so damn confused at what it actually did and did not install it. |
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| 06:18.41 | sylvanaar | right |
| 06:19.39 | liquidzoo | For the longest time I didn't use a chat addon, but when I found Prat I loved it and I've used it ever since, except for the one or 2 times where something totally borked my setup |
| 06:21.24 | Trela | Prat is awesome and you just drop it in. |
| 06:21.50 | Trela | AddOns that I love are easy to setup and come preset with a common configuration. Prat comes under that. |
| 06:22.12 | Trela | AddOn that I hate are a pain to setup and have no presets. F'ING PITBULL. |
| 06:22.18 | sylvanaar | neat, at least you like the default setup. |
| 06:22.30 | KriLL3 | does EBB work with LK? |
| 06:22.47 | Trela | EBB? |
| 06:22.57 | KriLL3 | elkbuffbars |
| 06:23.04 | Trela | No idea here. |
| 06:24.59 | Trela | sylvanaar: All I really ever had to change was some annoying channel stickies and played around with the edit box look. :3 |
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| 06:27.01 | digmouse | sylvanaar: what about "A chat addon framework which contains useful chat experience improvements and a platform providing other chat enhancement development possiblities " |
| 06:29.41 | Trela | Prat is an AddOn used to enhance the chat system to add many additional features through plug in modules. There are many modules included with Prat and third party modules can be added easily. |
| 06:29.58 | digmouse | GJ Trela |
| 06:30.40 | Trela | It is good? |
| 06:31.06 | digmouse | better than mine |
| 06:31.22 | Trela | I write in my spare time. :x |
| 06:31.24 | digmouse | mine is bit hard to read, too much long words |
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| 06:32.56 | Trela | Prat is an AddOn that enhances the chat system by adding many additional features through plug in modules. There are many features included and third party modules can be added easily. |
| 06:33.00 | Trela | A little better. |
| 06:33.53 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v1.9-release * r296 : Tagging as v1.9-release. |
| 06:34.09 | sylvanaar | i like that Trela |
| 06:34.55 | Trela | I need to clean up my own descriptions. :P |
| 06:35.43 | sylvanaar | Prat-3.0 is chat enhancement addon. It adds many additional features through plug in modules. There are many features included and third party modules can be added easily. |
| 06:37.06 | Trela | rat-3.0 is chat enhancement addon that adds... |
| 06:37.17 | Trela | *P |
| 06:37.22 | Trela | Keep the sentence flowing. |
| 06:39.59 | digmouse | sounds all live realms are brought down tonight but no news of patching |
| 06:42.04 | Trela | tries Pitbull again. |
| 06:42.34 | Trela | watches Pitbull spew errors. |
| 06:42.48 | Shefki | What errors? |
| 06:43.39 | Trela | That every thing is missing. |
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| 06:44.31 | Trela | ..\AddOns\PitBull_VisualHeal\VisualHeal.lua line 107: Cannot find module "HealthBar". |
| 06:45.23 | Trela | I am staring right at the HealthBar module though. |
| 06:45.28 | Shefki | What version on what client? |
| 06:45.42 | Trela | 2.4.3 |
| 06:45.44 | Trela | OS X |
| 06:45.56 | Trela | r1747 |
| 06:45.58 | Shefki | Works fine here. |
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| 06:46.28 | Trela | ..\AddOns\PitBull_HealthBar\HealthBar.lua line 6: ...face\AddOns\PitBull\libs\LibRock-1.0\LibRock-1.0.lua line 1994: Cannot embed library "LibRockEvent-1.0" into the same object "PitBull_HealthBar" more than once. |
| 06:48.14 | KriLL3 | most LK addons throw lib related errors for me, any ideas? |
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| 06:48.56 | Shefki | Trela: Sounds to me like something in your install is messed up. |
| 06:49.18 | Trela | I just installed it. o.o Drag and drop! |
| 06:49.34 | Shefki | From where? |
| 06:49.49 | Trela | WowAce. |
| 06:49.53 | Trela | WoWAce. |
| 06:50.04 | Trela | I tried the beta and the official release. |
| 06:50.30 | Repo | 10hits-mode: 03Allara 04r47-release * r49 : Tagging as r47-release. |
| 06:50.52 | sylvanaar | How does the packager know whether a tag is a release or a beta? |
| 06:50.59 | sylvanaar | on the cf faq |
| 06:51.05 | sylvanaar | does not answer the question |
| 06:51.13 | Shefki | Sure it does. |
| 06:51.15 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/ |
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| 06:51.18 | sylvanaar | read iut |
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| 06:51.40 | sylvanaar | compare the answer and question, and dont infer |
| 06:51.44 | Shefki | It checks if the tag name matches the regex ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|release|stable |
| 06:51.53 | Shefki | What's the problem with that? |
| 06:52.02 | sylvanaar | look at the question |
| 06:52.09 | sylvanaar | then look at the answer |
| 06:52.11 | Shefki | Read the answer. |
| 06:52.21 | sylvanaar | how do you make a beta |
| 06:52.29 | Shefki | Don't match that pattern. |
| 06:53.12 | Shefki | Since the only text that will match release is the letter v at the start or release or stable... Easy way is to just put beta in the name. |
| 06:53.25 | sylvanaar | but what about alpha |
| 06:53.38 | Shefki | Alpha = any commit. |
| 06:54.01 | Shefki | If you turn on Alpha packaging every commit is an alpha build. |
| 06:54.48 | KriLL3 | ckknight: I can't find a 3.0.2 compatible PB3.0 version on wowace, is there one? |
| 06:55.04 | Shefki | Release version is. |
| 06:55.08 | ckknight | just use the release |
| 06:55.18 | KriLL3 | energy isn't updating correctly |
| 06:55.36 | KriLL3 | r1747 |
| 06:55.58 | Shefki | Hmm possible that I broke it. |
| 06:56.02 | Shefki | Shouldn't have though. |
| 06:56.22 | Shefki | What class? |
| 06:56.27 | KriLL3 | drood |
| 06:56.36 | sylvanaar | thats interesting, so if i tag alpha1, its a beta |
| 06:56.46 | KriLL3 | it still has that line thing to show ticks, and it updates on tick |
| 06:56.46 | Shefki | Correct. |
| 06:56.57 | Shefki | KriLL3: Define not updating properly? |
| 06:57.04 | KriLL3 | updates in ticks |
| 06:57.08 | KriLL3 | not fluid |
| 06:57.11 | Shefki | whichita77 |
| 06:57.21 | KriLL3 | it even has that tick notifier |
| 06:59.04 | Shefki | KriLL3: That's normal, PitBull only updates that stuff every 0.5 seconds |
| 06:59.13 | KriLL3 | that's not correct |
| 06:59.21 | KriLL3 | and it shows a tick line |
| 06:59.24 | KriLL3 | energy doesn't tick in LK |
| 06:59.41 | Shefki | So fix it. |
| 07:00.00 | KriLL3 | you need to know your exact energy, currently you're clueless what your energy is most of the time |
| 07:00.18 | KriLL3 | Shefki: the gain is smooth, it shouldn't have to check to know it, it should extrapolate |
| 07:00.39 | Shefki | Umm no. |
| 07:00.46 | KriLL3 | Umm yes. |
| 07:00.58 | Shefki | Yes it's smooth. No extrapolating is stupid. |
| 07:01.08 | KriLL3 | then how does the default UI know? |
| 07:01.14 | Shefki | No the updating delay is not because it checking. |
| 07:01.19 | KriLL3 | and I meant extrapolating between checks |
| 07:01.23 | Shefki | Every time it changes an event is triggered. |
| 07:01.48 | Shefki | PitBull at current cobmines all of those events and only processes them every .5 seconds. |
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| 07:02.16 | Repo | 10acp: 03sylvanaar * r3 / (10 files in 1 directory): Bring current with my local version |
| 07:02.17 | KriLL3 | effectively making it horrible for rogues & ferals |
| 07:02.51 | KriLL3 | can't it just scrape the text from the default frame? |
| 07:02.59 | Shefki | *NO* |
| 07:03.26 | KriLL3 | well no rogue or feral can use pb in it's current state, something has to be changed |
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| 07:03.37 | Shefki | Fixing this requires unbucketing the powerbar events. |
| 07:03.59 | Shefki | Extrapolating or scraping another frame are not the proper fixes. |
| 07:04.02 | KriLL3 | why is extrapolating between updates a bad idea? the gain is a constant speed... |
| 07:04.30 | Shefki | Becuase extrapolating anything the game explicitly gives us is silly. |
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| 07:04.57 | Shefki | If it's so horrible go edit the PowerBar and unbucket it. |
| 07:05.06 | KriLL3 | if you're given it why the current broken behavior? including a tick notifier, which doesn't serve a purpose |
| 07:05.25 | KriLL3 | I have no idea how to do that, if you do, why don't you? :) |
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| 07:05.41 | sylvanaar | does regen happen without tics? |
| 07:05.47 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 07:05.57 | sylvanaar | all regen? |
| 07:06.07 | KriLL3 | dunno about mana/hp |
| 07:06.08 | Shefki | Let me be clear... |
| 07:06.11 | KriLL3 | energy yes |
| 07:06.25 | Shefki | Just becuase it works on Wrath doesn't mean every change has been accounted for. |
| 07:06.25 | KriLL3 | no more waiting 1-2 sec because your tick isn't perfect |
| 07:06.32 | Shefki | There's a ton of stuff to still do. |
| 07:06.54 | sylvanaar | you have to sample it if it is a continuously changing number |
| 07:07.30 | Shefki | sylvanaar: UNIT_MANA and the related events fire constantly. |
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| 07:08.13 | sylvanaar | yeah, though the numbers they have are bucketed |
| 07:08.23 | sylvanaar | thats alwasy been true |
| 07:08.34 | ckknight | 0.3 second buckets |
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| 07:09.02 | Shefki | ckknight: PowerBark is actually 0.05 |
| 07:09.04 | KriLL3 | hmm mana gain is also smooth in the default UI, but ticks in PB |
| 07:09.07 | ckknight | ooh |
| 07:09.08 | Shefki | PowerBar* |
| 07:09.14 | sylvanaar | i mean, from the game itself. you could get your mana between tics and it would have changed from the last unit-mana |
| 07:09.25 | ckknight | KriLL3: yea, the default ui does it on OnUpdate |
| 07:09.31 | ckknight | PB currently just listens to events |
| 07:09.50 | KriLL3 | hard to fix? :( |
| 07:09.57 | sylvanaar | frankly i think mana has been that way at least since tbc |
| 07:10.04 | Shefki | It's a redesign of the update mechanism. |
| 07:10.16 | KriLL3 | mana gain isn't important, but us ferals/rogues need that smooth update or we'll have to buttonmash all day |
| 07:10.22 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Default UI has always done OnUpdate as far as I know. |
| 07:10.33 | sb|work | morning |
| 07:10.56 | sylvanaar | it uses unit-mana and unit-maxmana |
| 07:11.42 | KriLL3 | also it seems your mana doesn't update while in feral forms |
| 07:11.47 | sylvanaar | now i have to actually look |
| 07:11.49 | KriLL3 | it remains at the mana you had when you entered the form |
| 07:11.52 | sylvanaar | it used to |
| 07:11.56 | KriLL3 | yeah I know |
| 07:12.12 | KriLL3 | remain in a form for an age and it still reports the mana you had, exit the form and you got full |
| 07:12.17 | sylvanaar | you had to guess at it though |
| 07:12.19 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:12.30 | KriLL3 | it was fairly accurate actually |
| 07:12.42 | KriLL3 | not 100% but enough to give you an idea |
| 07:12.52 | Shefki | KriLL3: yes it does. |
| 07:12.59 | Shefki | KriLL3: I fixed that. |
| 07:13.00 | sylvanaar | they use "mana" to mean the 2nd bar |
| 07:13.02 | KriLL3 | Shefki: I'm using it right now, it doesn't work |
| 07:13.09 | KriLL3 | r1747 |
| 07:13.14 | KriLL3 | latest I found on wowace |
| 07:13.22 | sylvanaar | so it can be energy, mana, rage, happiness |
| 07:13.42 | Shefki | Text or the bar? |
| 07:13.49 | KriLL3 | both |
| 07:14.00 | KriLL3 | both are static while in catform |
| 07:14.06 | KriLL3 | same with bear |
| 07:14.20 | Shefki | Bull. |
| 07:14.36 | Shefki | Text might not update if your LibDogTag is out of date. |
| 07:14.41 | Shefki | But the bar is working fine. |
| 07:14.51 | KriLL3 | Shefki: I have no idea how to get libs |
| 07:15.02 | KriLL3 | do I download them to the addons folder? |
| 07:15.29 | Shefki | Libs are just addons that are used by other addons so yes. |
| 07:15.45 | KriLL3 | I never had to manually handle em prior |
| 07:16.02 | KriLL3 | does wau/cc do that stuff for you? I've updated my LK addons manually since CC seems to be on the fritz |
| 07:16.04 | sylvanaar | blizz updates the manabar on UNIT_MANA |
| 07:16.06 | Shefki | I doubt that the packager rebuilt PitBull and I committed DogTag after. |
| 07:16.23 | KriLL3 | Shefki: sorry just saw the bar does update |
| 07:16.31 | KriLL3 | does it work with lotp btw? |
| 07:16.32 | Shefki | sylvanaar: No they don't... |
| 07:16.33 | Shefki | function UnitFrameManaBar_OnUpdate(self) |
| 07:16.33 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:16.33 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:16.40 | Shefki | ... |
| 07:16.55 | sylvanaar | loook up |
| 07:17.10 | sylvanaar | just above it, its doing it on UNIT_MANA |
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| 07:18.01 | KriLL3 | if all / commands I do on ace addons give an error related to "AceConsole" I got an outdated lib, correct? |
| 07:18.13 | sylvanaar | if ( GetCVarBool("predictedPower") and frequentUpdates ) then |
| 07:18.14 | sylvanaar | statusbar:SetScript("OnUpdate", UnitFrameManaBar_OnUpdate); |
| 07:18.14 | sylvanaar | else |
| 07:18.14 | sylvanaar | statusbar:RegisterEvent("UNIT_MANA"); |
| 07:18.16 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Technically it's both. |
| 07:18.18 | KriLL3 | they all say 'gsub' a nil value |
| 07:18.20 | sylvanaar | no |
| 07:18.50 | sylvanaar | unless i read the code wrong, it looks like that cvar controls it |
| 07:19.03 | Shefki | No they're just pulling the CVAR event out. |
| 07:19.13 | Shefki | And on all other events they force an update. |
| 07:19.23 | Shefki | But they also update on every OnUpdate. |
| 07:20.33 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.17 | Shefki | Okay so they have an event processing update and an OnUpdate processing. |
| 07:22.32 | Shefki | For the mana bar you can turn off the onUpdate with the CVar predictedPower |
| 07:23.09 | Shefki | Manabar is only updated OnUpdate if it's the player or pet frames. |
| 07:23.15 | Shefki | and that cvar is set. |
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| 07:23.59 | Shefki | Healthbars are updated for all frames OnUpdate unless predictedHealth is turned off. |
| 07:25.14 | Shefki | KriLL3: What do you mean work with LoTP? |
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| 07:25.35 | KriLL3 | LoTP makes your crits grant 4% hp and 8% mana |
| 07:25.47 | KriLL3 | max once per 6s or something like that |
| 07:26.08 | Shefki | Ohh you mean Imp LotP |
| 07:26.12 | Shefki | Yes it should work fine. |
| 07:26.21 | KriLL3 | kk :) |
| 07:26.24 | Shefki | Wrath let's us get mana from the game. |
| 07:26.32 | Shefki | LibDruidMana is obsolete. |
| 07:26.49 | Shefki | My change today stopped using it on the beta/3.x clients. |
| 07:27.04 | Shefki | And I'm using UnitPower("player", 0) to get mana. |
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| 07:28.05 | Shefki | I guess all we need to do is add an OnUpdate for the player and pet frames to update the powerbar. |
| 07:28.47 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 07:29.17 | KriLL3 | wouldn't it suck resources for it to poll it that often though? |
| 07:29.17 | Shefki | I'm not sure if the cvars are new but I know they've had the code to update mana in onupdate for a long time. |
| 07:29.28 | Shefki | KriLL3: Default client is doing it. |
| 07:29.31 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 07:29.33 | Shefki | KriLL3: So apparently not. |
| 07:29.42 | KriLL3 | onupdate = each frame? |
| 07:29.47 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 07:29.51 | KriLL3 | kk :) |
| 07:31.29 | KriLL3 | and it shouldn't be too hard to delete the tick bar thing :> |
| 07:33.11 | sylvanaar | does the next work differently or something? |
| 07:33.14 | sylvanaar | text |
| 07:33.49 | KriLL3 | would it be possible to color the bar when it's over a certain value? would be useful to show when you have enough for certain abilities |
| 07:34.11 | sb|work | sylvanaar: do you code on wim or only doing prat/text support? |
| 07:34.26 | sylvanaar | if it truly did update every frame, you would see it counting 1, 2, 3, 4 |
| 07:34.36 | sylvanaar | it must be throttled somewhere |
| 07:34.53 | KriLL3 | sylvanaar: thats how the default UI does it |
| 07:35.11 | sylvanaar | my mana never tics up in increments of 1 |
| 07:35.21 | KriLL3 | mine ticks more than that |
| 07:35.48 | KriLL3 | I guess the text is only updated a certain times a second true |
| 07:35.52 | KriLL3 | didn't think about that |
| 07:35.52 | sylvanaar | you would see all the inbetween if it was really updating the number evey frame |
| 07:35.59 | KriLL3 | if it updated 60 times a second you couldn't read it |
| 07:37.05 | sylvanaar | right, so there is something throttling it somehow |
| 07:37.30 | KriLL3 | hmm, actually the text is updating really really quickly |
| 07:38.05 | sylvanaar | the data probably isnt |
| 07:38.09 | KriLL3 | I can read the 3 first fine, but the 4:th is just flickering |
| 07:38.23 | sylvanaar | maybe |
| 07:38.49 | KriLL3 | if you've had a VHS you know the feeling, the first number is going so fast you just see shapes |
| 07:39.32 | KriLL3 | goes up about 20 every second |
| 07:39.39 | sylvanaar | i can always read the numbers on mine, and my regen is >200/s |
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| 07:39.57 | KriLL3 | I can't, and I'm in S4 feral gear |
| 07:40.11 | sb|work | i still dont understand why wim-3 depends on ace2 :/ |
| 07:40.12 | KriLL3 | well you can see the number, but by then you're already behind |
| 07:40.58 | sylvanaar | sb|work i dont know exactly, probably due to some library |
| 07:41.35 | sylvanaar | sb|work pazza and i collaborate on compatibility between wim and prat |
| 07:41.37 | Repo | 10xray-vision: 03egingell * r36 XRayVision.toc: Interface 30000 |
| 07:41.41 | sb|work | but that window-close animation is hot :p |
| 07:42.07 | sylvanaar | sb|work hes the actual author. and yeah the animation is relly cool |
| 07:43.48 | sylvanaar | wim3 looks really sharp. hes got all new options dialogs and stuff, they look great. |
| 07:44.22 | sb|work | yup |
| 07:44.35 | sb|work | the only think i dont like is that ace2 dependency ;) |
| 07:45.13 | sylvanaar | i guess that doesnt bother me at all. i still like ace2. |
| 07:45.29 | sb|work | thats not the point :) |
| 07:45.54 | sylvanaar | my guess is its wholib hasnt been ported or something like that |
| 07:45.57 | sb|work | if all your addons use ace3 framework, its additional overhead with one addon using ace2 |
| 07:46.03 | sb|work | ah okay |
| 07:46.30 | sylvanaar | he doesnt really use a framework |
| 07:46.41 | sb|work | i see |
| 07:46.46 | sylvanaar | he rolled his own mostly |
| 07:46.54 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1640 / (4 files in 4 directories): |
| 07:46.55 | Repo | More price updates, locked in the new Atlas Sets/Collections Menu |
| 07:47.20 | sb|work | mhh daviesh - he needs to provide an LDB launcher :) |
| 07:47.51 | sylvanaar | deformat-2.0 and wholib-1.0 |
| 07:48.09 | sylvanaar | that's why ace2 is there |
| 07:48.40 | Shefki | Bahh... Such a pain in the butt to make the text to update onUpdate for only certain frames. |
| 07:49.01 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 07:50.05 | Shefki | ckknight: As nice as DogTag is for tooltips it's a pain that PitBull uses it. |
| 07:50.15 | sylvanaar | you know ldb launchers take up more space than fubar icons (at least for statblockcore - since they are blocks) |
| 07:50.25 | ckknight | that's what it was made for originally, Shefki |
| 07:51.18 | Shefki | Yeah well it sucks that the bar and the text are sperate implementations for updating. |
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| 07:52.12 | sylvanaar | why |
| 07:52.40 | sylvanaar | are you assuming they are always on top of each other? |
| 07:53.25 | Shefki | I understand the power of the implementation. |
| 07:53.44 | Shefki | It's just a pain in the butt that anything you change something in one place you have to change it in DogTag too. |
| 07:54.21 | Shefki | And it seems really illogical to have to have two event processings for the same data. |
| 07:55.01 | Shefki | It's double the UnitMana/UnitPower calls for most users that are not putting their mana on some weird spot. |
| 07:55.12 | Repo | 10framesresized: 03Elkano * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory): FramesResized |
| 07:55.13 | Repo | - changes for new svn/packager |
| 07:55.14 | Repo | - updated for WotLK - TOC 30000 |
| 07:55.54 | Elkano | first commit to the new svn stuff ^^ |
| 07:56.07 | Shefki | Basically it affords a lot of power that a lot of users never touch at a fairly high cost in maintainablility and CPU time. |
| 07:56.17 | sylvanaar | ah i see, that function is probably fairly cheap to call, seeing as blizz does it on every onupdate |
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| 07:58.36 | Shefki | People bitch an awful lot about the CPU time that DogTag chews up. |
| 07:58.48 | sylvanaar | along with 10000000 other things bliz does in onupdate functions as well |
| 07:59.11 | sylvanaar | yeah, and thats an education issue |
| 07:59.26 | thul | http://fc14.deviantart.com/fs37/i/2008/287/9/b/Swirly_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- picture of the day |
| 07:59.59 | Shefki | I'm not sure I agree. DogTag is fairly well acknowledge to be behind frame rate issues for some people. |
| 08:00.31 | Shefki | Not everyone seems to have a big enough issue with it that it's that big of an issue. |
| 08:01.04 | sylvanaar | by end-users maybe, but there's no way to know how much cpu it uses without enabling the bliz profiler |
| 08:01.36 | sylvanaar | and 95% of the people who turn it on have no idea how to use the info they get |
| 08:01.57 | sylvanaar | im starting to rant.... |
| 08:02.07 | sylvanaar | drinks some water |
| 08:02.27 | sylvanaar | anywho, im with ckk...gnomes |
| 08:03.05 | Shefki | The timing may not be precise but the relative CPU time between addons is. And DoggTag is by far the biggest CPU pig that I have installed. |
| 08:03.30 | Shefki | Which is a lot for something that's just a library that I'm not really using the features of. |
| 08:03.53 | sylvanaar | you need to try profiling the default ui code |
| 08:03.58 | thul | GNOMES |
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| 08:04.02 | sylvanaar | copy paste it into an addon |
| 08:05.16 | Shefki | Incidentally, I don't think the UnitMana call is the source of the CPU time. |
| 08:05.23 | Shefki | It's the processing of the tags. |
| 08:05.35 | sylvanaar | dogtag has a high number of cpu use relative to what? an idea of how much you think it should based on what it does? |
| 08:05.36 | Shefki | Since it has to parse the tags. |
| 08:05.44 | Repo | 10bags_and_merchants: 03Elkano * r30 / (3 files in 2 directories): bags_and_merchants |
| 08:05.45 | Repo | - changes for new svn/packager |
| 08:05.46 | Repo | - removed Ace2 libs - now uses its own event frame |
| 08:05.47 | Repo | - added support for the guild bank |
| 08:06.34 | sylvanaar | or maybe its that the profiler adds overhead for every function call, and if you write an addon which uses alot of functioncalls, it will be slowed down immensely by the act of profiling it |
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| 08:06.56 | sylvanaar | just a counter idea |
| 08:06.57 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Relative to the 400+ some odd addons/libaries I have installed in my disembeded setup. |
| 08:07.03 | sylvanaar | see no |
| 08:07.14 | sylvanaar | that's incorrect use of the data |
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| 08:07.29 | Shefki | What's incorrect about that? |
| 08:08.04 | sylvanaar | because you you are basing it on things which are irrelevant |
| 08:08.06 | Shefki | There is no logical reason why something that's just calculating text should be the top CPU time. |
| 08:08.23 | sylvanaar | it uses onupdate |
| 08:08.27 | sylvanaar | top cpu |
| 08:08.35 | Shefki | DogTag? No it doesn't. |
| 08:08.52 | Shefki | Everything in DogTag is event driven. |
| 08:09.04 | sylvanaar | its being called onupdate then? |
| 08:09.09 | Shefki | No |
| 08:09.20 | Shefki | It decides when to update tags based on events. |
| 08:09.22 | sb|work | sylvanaar: mhh, LDB launcher code is only 5 lines iirc :o |
| 08:09.31 | sylvanaar | sb |
| 08:09.47 | sylvanaar | what about it |
| 08:10.03 | sylvanaar | i was talking about the launcher icon being a blocl |
| 08:10.06 | sylvanaar | block |
| 08:10.21 | sylvanaar | but, i think pazza is adding it |
| 08:10.22 | sb|work | oh :) |
| 08:10.43 | sylvanaar | we talked about it last time i talked to him |
| 08:10.49 | sb|work | i though you were talking about other 'space' ;) |
| 08:10.51 | sb|work | nevermind then :p |
| 08:14.39 | sylvanaar | Shefki you need to profile the default ui itself before you can use the profiler number in any meaningful way. you'd also need to know what overhead the profiler adds |
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| 08:15.34 | sylvanaar | ie. how much cpu does the bliz unitframe code use |
| 08:15.51 | Shefki | sylvanaar: What does any of that have to do with DogTag? |
| 08:16.19 | Shefki | DogTag's problems come from the parsing of a custom language. |
| 08:16.23 | sylvanaar | dogtag is a FontString library |
| 08:16.45 | sylvanaar | isnt it? lol |
| 08:17.19 | Shefki | DogTag updates FontStrings based on events and tags that you can write to show pretty much anyything you want. |
| 08:17.28 | Shefki | Which is something the default UI doesn't do at all. |
| 08:17.29 | sylvanaar | the tags are compiled |
| 08:17.34 | sylvanaar | into lua |
| 08:17.45 | sylvanaar | functionc call chains |
| 08:18.24 | sylvanaar | its not parsed over and over, afaik each parse creates a closure |
| 08:18.37 | sylvanaar | and thats used to update the fontstrings |
| 08:19.40 | sylvanaar | it happes that (from what i have seen) this results in lots of little function calls |
| 08:19.44 | Shefki | Except that the way things are implemented those get remade all the time. |
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| 08:20.01 | sylvanaar | huh |
| 08:20.02 | Shefki | Because the frames get tossed and remade. |
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| 08:20.38 | sylvanaar | there'd be no reason to remake a dogtag closure once you made it |
| 08:21.11 | sylvanaar | but im no expert |
| 08:21.16 | sylvanaar | ask ckknight |
| 08:21.46 | Shefki | I'm pretty sure each instance of the string gets its own closure. |
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| 08:21.57 | Shefki | And when a frame is repopulated a new one is made. |
| 08:22.13 | sylvanaar | and thats not cached |
| 08:22.29 | sylvanaar | i think thats unlikely, but ok |
| 08:22.58 | Shefki | PitBull doesn't make all frames it might need it only makes those that it uses and puts them in a pool. |
| 08:23.49 | Shefki | There's no guarantee that a raid frame that got recyled will not end up being reused for some other frame. Like say the focus frame. |
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| 08:24.03 | orionshock | I found the problem in ZOMG buffs |
| 08:24.05 | orionshock | :D |
| 08:24.20 | orionshock | and it's going to just get worse btw, it's the library load order in the toc file is bad. |
| 08:24.33 | Shefki | There's there's subframes like say the DruidMana bar that are made and remade on every shift. |
| 08:30.25 | sylvanaar | ok, seems like ckk would have cached the dogtag code -> closures |
| 08:30.42 | sylvanaar | i might be wrong - i dont actually know |
| 08:31.21 | Shefki | If he did I don't see where or how he can do it in a safe way because of the way things get reused. |
| 08:31.44 | sylvanaar | since "[Name]" will always compile to the same thing wont it? |
| 08:31.57 | Shefki | No |
| 08:32.05 | Shefki | Depends on the unit. |
| 08:32.26 | cladhaire | which should be passed into the function as an argument |
| 08:32.59 | Shefki | Sure when the FontString is made. |
| 08:33.03 | cladhaire | s/would/can be/ |
| 08:33.06 | Shefki | But since frames can be recyled. |
| 08:33.22 | Shefki | And used for entirely different purposes that's not a one time deal. |
| 08:33.36 | cladhaire | *shrug* |
| 08:33.54 | cladhaire | that doesn't make sense to either sylvanaar or me, but we're not the ones you should be talking to |
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| 08:34.03 | cladhaire | I wouldn't implement it anywhere near what you're insinuating |
| 08:34.10 | cladhaire | and I find it hard to believe ckk did either |
| 08:34.18 | sylvanaar | thats what i am saying |
| 08:34.48 | sylvanaar | its cached via metatable _newindex or something |
| 08:35.04 | sylvanaar | __ |
| 08:36.28 | sylvanaar | or __index whichever |
| 08:37.34 | Zeksie | orionshock: bad how? |
| 08:37.59 | Shefki | cladhaire: Frankly I think it's an issue of two well intentioned designs working at cross purposes. |
| 08:38.37 | cladhaire | well, I'm not completely ignorant of the issues, considering Vika was the one who came up with the concept in the first place and mine was the initial implementation of it |
| 08:38.51 | Shefki | The idea of reusing frames and having a minimal set of frames is well intentioned but it turned into a damn mess. |
| 08:39.00 | cladhaire | but I think you're overconsidering the issue of frame re-use.. it shouldn't make one damn bit of difference |
| 08:39.12 | cladhaire | the druid bar one, I think I can understand |
| 08:39.19 | cladhaire | but how many situations like that actually exist? |
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| 08:39.35 | sylvanaar | i think this is all about druid mana |
| 08:39.52 | Cheads | grrr so annoying, when ever I logon my first chatframe keep joining the General chat even though I just disable that in the setting for that tab |
| 08:39.55 | sylvanaar | we have explored many aspects of mana today |
| 08:40.27 | Shefki | sylvanaar: No this is just a general performance issue. Not directly related to any particular thing I worked on. |
| 08:40.52 | sylvanaar | by the way, druids have lots of mana in wotlk |
| 08:40.59 | Shefki | I got sidetracked onto this conversation after generally getting grumpy at having to deal with DogTag being annoying. |
| 08:41.02 | sylvanaar | just thought you should know that |
| 08:41.16 | Shefki | Except for Ferals with Wrath gear. |
| 08:41.22 | sylvanaar | my moonkin aoes at 100% mana non stop |
| 08:41.24 | Shefki | Who have zero Int. |
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| 08:41.56 | sylvanaar | as long as there's something to aoe, hes got full mana |
| 08:42.05 | Shefki | Moonkins have too much regen atm IMHO. |
| 08:42.06 | cladhaire | how's that happen? |
| 08:42.15 | sylvanaar | crit procs from the aoe |
| 08:42.15 | cladhaire | i still have avoided playing beta so I'm suprised :P |
| 08:42.22 | Shefki | cladhaire: Druids share gear with rogues now. |
| 08:42.28 | sylvanaar | each regens %mana |
| 08:42.33 | cladhaire | for feral stuff yes, Shefki |
| 08:42.39 | cladhaire | I'm aware of that |
| 08:42.42 | cladhaire | sylvanaar: oh, talent? |
| 08:42.48 | sylvanaar | moonkin form |
| 08:42.55 | sylvanaar | no more melee |
| 08:42.56 | cladhaire | oh they changed it, neat :P |
| 08:42.58 | cladhaire | nice |
| 08:43.00 | cladhaire | very nice :P |
| 08:43.03 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 08:43.13 | sylvanaar | you know ooc works for non melee too? |
| 08:43.26 | cladhaire | yeah i did see that change |
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| 08:43.34 | Shefki | I'm expecting the crit proc to be nerfed eventually. |
| 08:43.38 | sylvanaar | you missed the typhoon bug cladhaire |
| 08:43.44 | sylvanaar | omg that was so fun |
| 08:43.48 | cladhaire | hehe what was it? |
| 08:43.55 | sylvanaar | no global cooldown |
| 08:43.55 | Shefki | You could spam the effect. |
| 08:44.03 | cladhaire | hehehe |
| 08:44.23 | Shefki | Someone goofed and hooked the spell up to just the effect so no GCD. |
| 08:44.50 | EthanCentaurai | has received 110 emails while he was asleep... O.o |
| 08:44.56 | sylvanaar | i wouls walk into nax and everything around me would die, seemingly on its own |
| 08:45.01 | sylvanaar | since there was no graphic |
| 08:45.12 | Shefki | Some people got banned for doing that apparently. |
| 08:45.35 | sylvanaar | no, they didnt. they were trying to make you think that so you wouldnt abuse it |
| 08:45.57 | Fisker- | All druids that did that got banned |
| 08:46.00 | Fisker- | But they got unbanned again |
| 08:46.14 | Shefki | Obviously not all... THat would be ridiculous. |
| 08:46.32 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r191 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 08:46.33 | Repo | XPerl: Don't assume units passed from LibHealComm are in your raid. |
| 08:46.36 | Fisker- | From what i understood it they just banned all based on the server logs |
| 08:46.37 | sylvanaar | right |
| 08:46.37 | Shefki | "Let's ban everyone that used Typoon since the server came up" |
| 08:46.43 | Fisker- | Yes |
| 08:46.56 | sylvanaar | you know there have been larger bugs than that |
| 08:47.13 | Shefki | THat's bull. I know people that used it and didn't get any ban sticking. |
| 08:47.15 | sylvanaar | warrior one-shotting malygos (well 1 shot to 1 HP) |
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| 08:47.40 | sylvanaar | 1 shotting any boss for that matter |
| 08:47.51 | Fisker- | Probably why they unbanned them again |
| 08:48.14 | sylvanaar | no, that bug has come and gone a few times, then recently a melee one |
| 08:48.33 | sylvanaar | i dont know all the details of it, butif ( GetCVarBool("predictedPower") and frequentUpdates ) then |
| 08:48.33 | sylvanaar | statusbar:SetScript("OnUpdate", UnitFrameManaBar_OnUpdate); |
| 08:48.33 | sylvanaar | else |
| 08:48.33 | sylvanaar | statusbar:RegisterEvent("UNIT_MANA"); |
| 08:48.33 | Shefki | Well they can ban anyone for any reason they want. Even on live. |
| 08:48.35 | sylvanaar | oops |
| 08:48.43 | sylvanaar | they arent banning anyone |
| 08:48.48 | sylvanaar | thats what beta is for |
| 08:49.00 | Fisker- | Druids got banned (fact) |
| 08:49.13 | sylvanaar | to scare you |
| 08:49.21 | Fisker- | Perhaps |
| 08:49.44 | Fisker- | slaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:49.52 | sylvanaar | and unless you know them personally, they could have just been playing along with the ruse |
| 08:49.55 | Shefki | I wouldn't have exploited it even if nobody had said they got banned. |
| 08:50.04 | sylvanaar | i did |
| 08:50.09 | sylvanaar | are you retarded |
| 08:50.13 | sylvanaar | it was fun as hell |
| 08:50.22 | Shefki | If I find an exploit I report it and don'tt use it. |
| 08:50.43 | sylvanaar | i took the day off from work. god mode druid..... |
| 08:50.54 | sylvanaar | that was too much fun |
| 08:51.25 | Trela | .... |
| 08:51.31 | Trela | COULD THIS BE THE WORST WEB PAGE EVER?! http://www.havenworks.com/ |
| 08:51.37 | Shefki | You realize that TOS says they can ban you for using bugs like that even from live. They don't even have to use the "We can ban you just because we feel like it." |
| 08:51.47 | sylvanaar | i dont care |
| 08:52.35 | Shefki | If a bug like that made it to live would you use it there? |
| 08:52.37 | sylvanaar | that just says what they can do |
| 08:52.59 | sylvanaar | no |
| 08:53.03 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r18 ZOMGBuffs.toc: ZOMGBuffs: Adjusted embeds load order. Thanks OrionShock. |
| 08:53.15 | sylvanaar | its beta - not the real game |
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| 08:54.48 | Cheads | anyone got an idea what could cause my chat 1 window to join General chat(after relog) even though I just removed the check mark for it in the settings? |
| 08:55.46 | sylvanaar | they are a game company - they want to make things fun - not be police...i kinda like they threw druids a bone since that was the same day they nerfed the regrowth glyph |
| 08:55.47 | quiescens | removing the check mark you're talking about just means it isn't displayed or something |
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| 08:56.00 | quiescens | it still joins |
| 08:56.21 | sylvanaar | simple chat? |
| 08:56.23 | sylvanaar | idk |
| 08:56.23 | Shefki | Don't kid yourself that wasn't on purpose. |
| 08:56.38 | Cheads | quiescens ok, but I still see the chat again after a relog |
| 08:56.39 | sylvanaar | good timing though |
| 08:57.05 | Cheads | the setting for the check mark isn't saved |
| 08:57.34 | NivFreak | has anyone dropped a newer mac curse client than 13? |
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| 08:58.45 | sylvanaar | what are you talking about Cheads, it "is not supposed to", or it "is not but it should" |
| 08:58.57 | quiescens | I don't know why hiding it wouldn't save the option |
| 08:59.57 | sylvanaar | i hate thier chat setting saving, you can just edit your chatcache and set the ZONECHANNELS to 0 |
| 09:00.01 | sylvanaar | for that frame |
| 09:00.23 | sylvanaar | assuming you can edit it still |
| 09:00.53 | quiescens | to actually leave a channel rather than just hide it you press O to go to the social window, go to the chat tab, right click general and pick leave |
| 09:01.26 | sylvanaar | or /leave 1 |
| 09:01.47 | quiescens | that too, but um |
| 09:01.56 | quiescens | are you sure you don't have some sort of addon messing with your chat settings |
| 09:02.25 | quiescens | because I know I have general hidden on my default chat frame |
| 09:04.17 | Mech0z | anyelse having problems downloading all of the patch for wedensday? |
| 09:05.17 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 09:05.22 | NivFreak | curseclient doesn't see bartender 4 eh |
| 09:06.05 | sb|work | NivFreak: works for me |
| 09:06.10 | NivFreak | mac version |
| 09:06.15 | sb|work | no idea :) |
| 09:06.24 | Cheads | quiescens I want to be joined to General chat.. just not for my chat frame 1 .. but my chat frame 2.. so it should be hidden for chat frame 1(and I was expecting the settings to do just that) .. but when I relog .. I see the general chat in frame1 (and 2) again |
| 09:06.31 | sylvanaar | on beta? |
| 09:06.37 | NivFreak | oh, I had to click "get list" |
| 09:06.47 | sb|work | haha ;)_ |
| 09:07.11 | sylvanaar | Cheads is the beta or live? |
| 09:07.23 | quiescens | yeah, what they said |
| 09:07.34 | quiescens | because I have general hidden on the default chat frame too |
| 09:07.40 | Cheads | live |
| 09:07.49 | sylvanaar | you have simple chat on? |
| 09:08.13 | mitch0 | re |
| 09:08.54 | NivFreak | I'd like to take this opportunity to thank curse |
| 09:09.03 | NivFreak | for leaving their updaters in a broken state |
| 09:09.06 | NivFreak | with a day pending on 3.0 |
| 09:09.12 | sylvanaar | they will be at work soon |
| 09:09.31 | NivFreak | this is going to be a nightmare |
| 09:09.49 | Cheads | sylvanaar: no simple chat is disable |
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| 09:12.28 | sylvanaar | oh man, my commit note from the change i am reverting is funny |
| 09:12.39 | digmouse | Gonna starting to write some 3.0 addon survival guide |
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| 09:13.46 | mitch0 | what function will be called after a tooltip:setHyperlink() (after the client fetches the item info from the server) |
| 09:14.16 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r25 services/textcolor.lua: |
| 09:14.17 | Repo | revert a change made in rev 22 which had the note "Made hasty changes ill regret later" |
| 09:14.58 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04Beta 1 * r26 : Tagging as Beta 1. |
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| 09:15.38 | EthanCentaurai | suddenly recieves 19 emails notifying him about the Prat 3.0 update |
| 09:15.46 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 09:16.19 | quiescens | ooh I remember that commit note |
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| 09:17.45 | sylvanaar | broke my coloring function |
| 09:18.34 | Repo | 10spell-reminder: 03oridan * r179 / (4 files in 2 directories): SpellReminder: |
| 09:18.35 | Repo | - add support for announcing on spell cast |
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| 09:19.15 | sylvanaar | digmouse anyone who used wowace.com is going to have it rough if they were just lay users |
| 09:19.50 | sylvanaar | delete it all, and start over |
| 09:20.16 | digmouse | nah sylvanaar you know I'm only gonna write these things to chinese noob ppl |
| 09:20.51 | sylvanaar | really? or joking? |
| 09:21.20 | Repo | 10bags_and_merchants: 03Elkano * r31 .pkgmeta: bags_and_merchants: more fixes to .pkgmeta |
| 09:21.42 | orionshock | sylvanaar: when u taged that was it using the web interface or via svn? |
| 09:21.53 | sylvanaar | yeah, web |
| 09:21.59 | sylvanaar | theres a space |
| 09:22.06 | sylvanaar | i was just going to make a comment |
| 09:22.11 | orionshock | i wonder if it'll make a zip from that. |
| 09:22.19 | sylvanaar | why do i need to add my own dash |
| 09:22.20 | orionshock | b/c it don't match the regex |
| 09:22.42 | sylvanaar | it made a zip, the file has a space in the name |
| 09:23.19 | digmouse | anyone familiar to itemcache structure? |
| 09:23.52 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03maqjav * r1641 Locales/constants.es.lua: |
| 09:23.52 | Repo | Atlasloot: esES update with bosses without translation before |
| 09:24.06 | EthanCentaurai | sylvanaar, do you have plans for Prat3FuDB and Prat3PerCharDB (currently unused SavedVariable declarations)? |
| 09:24.27 | sylvanaar | no |
| 09:25.07 | mitch0 | anyone savvy with tooltips? the SetHyperlink(itemLink) docs are kinda lacking. will OnTooltipSetItem() fire even if the item was in the local cache? will it fire if it's a bogus itemLink? (the server doesn't know about it) |
| 09:25.44 | sylvanaar | um doesnt the sethyperlink just use the item id |
| 09:26.28 | sylvanaar | so you will dc in the case where its not valid |
| 09:26.39 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * Parrot-1.0.1-1-gb301079 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] recreate .pkgmeta |
| 09:27.28 | mitch0 | sylv: ok. what about the other two? :) |
| 09:27.32 | sylvanaar | dont know |
| 09:28.00 | mitch0 | ok, what is the best method of testing this stuff? backup WTF and erase it? |
| 09:28.14 | mitch0 | will I get back to my previous state just by restoring my backup? |
| 09:28.22 | sylvanaar | wtf? |
| 09:28.27 | mitch0 | the config folder |
| 09:28.29 | sylvanaar | wdb |
| 09:28.38 | mitch0 | oh |
| 09:28.43 | sylvanaar | as in the wdb files |
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| 09:28.56 | mitch0 | all of them? |
| 09:29.07 | sylvanaar | i think its a one way trip too |
| 09:29.12 | mitch0 | gah |
| 09:29.58 | mitch0 | doesn't sound fun... |
| 09:30.48 | mitch0 | also, is it possible to "chain" SetHyperlink() calls without waiting for the corresponding OnTooltipSetItem? |
| 09:31.42 | mitch0 | or, phrased in another way: what is the best method of caching N items (N ~= 10) and get notified when the whole thing is done? |
| 09:32.23 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * Parrot-1.0.1-4-g7e97e14 .pkgmeta: [+3 commits] |
| 09:32.24 | Repo | 7e97e14: fix .pkgmeta |
| 09:32.24 | Repo | 1efcf6a: fix .pkgmeta |
| 09:32.26 | Repo | 148f8bc: actually add .pkgmeta (d'oh) |
| 09:32.46 | sylvanaar | no idea - i remember an addon TooltipExchange, i'm not sure if its in any way relevant to your question, but it just came to mind for some reason |
| 09:32.50 | orionshock | mitch0: best way, set the tooltip, and use scanning - in combo with getItemInfo |
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| 09:32.58 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:33.15 | mitch0 | OnUpdate() is evil... |
| 09:33.19 | orionshock | yes |
| 09:33.25 | mitch0 | what do you mean by scanning btw? |
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| 09:34.00 | cncfanatics | \o/ |
| 09:34.03 | cncfanatics | .join #archlinux |
| 09:34.05 | cncfanatics | ups |
| 09:34.17 | mitch0 | setHiperlink(); while (GetItemInfo() == nil) continue; ? |
| 09:34.20 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:34.35 | mitch0 | yeah, that sounds horrible ;) |
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| 09:34.41 | cncfanatics | yay for getting thrown out of class \o/ :p |
| 09:34.44 | orionshock | and just bump the "currentLInk" |
| 09:35.13 | sylvanaar | dataminer |
| 09:35.20 | mitch0 | orion: well, the positive side is that I can give a timeout ... |
| 09:35.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:35.28 | mitch0 | but this still sounds horrible |
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| 09:35.46 | orionshock | mitch0: what are you needing this for? |
| 09:36.02 | mitch0 | orion: IsItemInRange based checks in LibRangeCheck |
| 09:36.10 | mitch0 | need to make sure those items are in the cache |
| 09:36.17 | Bruners | woo new curse client |
| 09:36.33 | mitch0 | it's about 10 or so items |
| 09:36.42 | mitch0 | (and only if they're not in the cache) |
| 09:36.48 | Elkano | mitch0, by my experience, SetHyperlink() is enought to get an item into the cache... and also if you're unlucky to become disconnected for item scanning ^^' |
| 09:37.22 | mitch0 | elkano: well, I guess I won't be booted for 10 or so item scans ;) |
| 09:37.35 | Repo | 10acp: 03sylvanaar 043.0.0 * r4 : Tagging as 3.0.0. |
| 09:37.54 | orionshock | mitch0: shouldn't addons be using IsItemInRange directly? |
| 09:38.04 | orionshock | this may be a case of "OverLib-age" |
| 09:38.36 | mitch0 | orion: I know of several addons that display ranges based on LibRangeCheck |
| 09:38.39 | orionshock | *"OverLibiage" |
| 09:38.52 | sylvanaar | why doesnt librangecheck deal with it |
| 09:39.07 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: ? |
| 09:39.21 | orionshock | it just sounds like a lib for the sake of a lib... imo... |
| 09:39.25 | Elkano | mitch0, you guess but I wouldn't ^^ I did lots of tests on that stuff ^^ |
| 09:39.25 | syeren | WOW Curse Client is awesome. |
| 09:39.37 | syeren | I install it and my DogTags lib just goes away. |
| 09:39.41 | orionshock | syeren: u making joke? |
| 09:39.42 | mitch0 | I'm writing librangecheck. I'm trying to impelement the IsItemInRange based check in it |
| 09:39.53 | orionshock | mitch0: ah |
| 09:39.57 | Elkano | syeren, so it's not that bad at all I guess ;) |
| 09:39.58 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: was prat 3.0 the main prat release on files? |
| 09:39.59 | syeren | I don't need to make a joke when the Curse Client exists in it's current form. |
| 09:40.00 | mitch0 | (right now it only uses CheckInteractDistance and IsSpellInRange) |
| 09:40.06 | orionshock | syeren: ya, embedded libs > disembedded libs |
| 09:40.08 | syeren | Well I had to log out and get fucking DogTags. |
| 09:40.23 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: the updater has Prat, Prat 2.0, Prat 3.0 |
| 09:40.31 | Bruners | right, new curse client updates and i get 43 new folders in my addon dir |
| 09:40.33 | mitch0 | (dogtags supports range display via librangecheck, for example :) |
| 09:40.55 | syeren | Why couldn't they just make it a fucking clone of WAU goddamn. |
| 09:42.44 | syeren | ARGH |
| 09:42.44 | syeren | [2008/10/13 10:38:19-1293-x1]: CowTip-r68121\Text\Text.lua:113: Library "LibDogTag-3.0" not found. |
| 09:42.45 | syeren | LibRock-1.0-3317 (LibRock-1.0):1667: in function `Rock' |
| 09:42.45 | syeren | CowTip-r68121\Text\Text.lua:113: in main chunk |
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| 09:42.48 | syeren | I just fucking installed it. |
| 09:42.51 | syeren | Piece of fucking shit. |
| 09:42.55 | mitch0 | orion: ok, I'll go with the OnUpdate() check thing. One more question regarding that: LibRangeCheck already has a frame for something I forgot (probly something to do with registering for events or the like). Can I use a Tooltip-type frame instead of that? or should I create a separate frame for this purpose? (given that after the first run, the user most likely won't need to do this scan, as he'll have the required items in his cache) |
| 09:45.19 | orionshock | imo, i'd use the itemreftt to scan |
| 09:45.31 | orionshock | and the libs frame for onUpdate |
| 09:46.01 | syeren | I really hope Curse are glad by what the fuck they have done. |
| 09:46.05 | syeren | Piece of shit company. |
| 09:46.13 | mitch0 | so it's better to use a simpler frame for the general addon frame, and only create the TT frame when needed? |
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| 09:47.41 | cncfanatics | syeren: eh, do you have anything useful to say ? if not, you might as well shut up |
| 09:47.44 | orionshock | like i said, this scan / caching isn't going to take longer than ~3seconds (and that's generous) so i'd open and set the ItemRefTooltip, then use the lib's existing frame to scan the tooltip / do the "GetItemInfo()" call |
| 09:48.03 | syeren | I'd rather not. |
| 09:48.10 | syeren | And just continue to apparently annoy you :> |
| 09:48.29 | mitch0 | orion: ItemRefTooltip is some global thing? |
| 09:48.50 | orionshock | syeren: i hope you know that kael was / is wowace.com's Admin and is leading the project on curseforge.. its almost a new group of people behind the scenes |
| 09:49.01 | syeren | Yeah. |
| 09:49.03 | orionshock | mitch0: yes, it's the tooltip that comes up when you click on a hyperlink in chat. |
| 09:49.05 | syeren | Look at the success they're having. |
| 09:49.20 | syeren | Alienated the EJ community, pretty much every raider I have spoken to hate it. |
| 09:49.26 | orionshock | syeren: try being an author, it's 100x better than before the merge |
| 09:49.31 | mitch0 | orion: won't there be a chance for some sort of race-condition? |
| 09:49.32 | syeren | And I love that huge complaints thread on the WoWace. |
| 09:49.41 | syeren | orionshock, haste did it? |
| 09:49.51 | orionshock | ?? haste? |
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| 09:49.54 | orionshock | no.. |
| 09:50.05 | sylvanaar | they are trying to do something big, they just boxed themselves into the 3.0 release |
| 09:50.07 | syeren | Haste managed without WAU. |
| 09:50.34 | syeren | Well then they should have picked a better time, because this Wednesday / Tuesday is going to be super fun for them :> |
| 09:50.39 | orionshock | syeren: i fail to understand your correlation you've made. |
| 09:51.05 | syeren | haste has never needed any of the feeding from this community and he seems to be doing fine :) |
| 09:51.11 | syeren | In regards to your "omg author lol" |
| 09:51.17 | orionshock | & ? |
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| 09:51.20 | orionshock | point being? |
| 09:51.20 | syeren | Into which you should follow suit if it was such a problem :) |
| 09:51.37 | orionshock | it's a "to each their own" idea syeren |
| 09:52.04 | syeren | Yeah, the previous idea of having a client that didn't break your addon install simply by being installed, or the current one which is horrible to say the least. |
| 09:52.10 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07IsItemInRange * r9 : branching for IsItemInRange based checks |
| 09:52.17 | syeren | But hey, the nolib downloads seem to be doing popular from the amount of questions I have seen tonight :> |
| 09:52.28 | syeren | I'll get back on to fixing my addons, good day :) |
| 09:52.36 | orionshock | syeren: WAU was a developer tool, not an end user tool, GG for abusing something you shouldn't have had to begin with |
| 09:52.55 | syeren | I didn't use WAU. |
| 09:52.58 | syeren | So /o/ |
| 09:53.13 | syeren | So GG on being a cluster fuck :) |
| 09:53.44 | orionshock | ..so was the files site btw... :P |
| 09:54.21 | syeren | Well as a developer, or rather the idea was to put up the files for testing, suggestions, and recoding right? |
| 09:54.22 | sylvanaar | that stuff evolved over time in response to needs |
| 09:54.45 | sylvanaar | it was chewing gum and duct tape - but it did the job |
| 09:55.00 | syeren | I think the current one is awesome /o/ |
| 09:55.12 | syeren | Fixed 2 addons it broke <3 |
| 09:55.13 | orionshock | meh, regardless what it was intended for, or what it was used for.. it was big, massive, ugly, and expensive... |
| 09:55.41 | syeren | Hardly my fault kaelten couldn't implement a file checking system :p |
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| 09:55.52 | syeren | I believe one was proposed over at EJ which got ignored back in the day! |
| 09:56.09 | sylvanaar | i think there was not really an incentive to do it either |
| 09:56.27 | orionshock | it's a "40 billion ideas, not enough money to go around" |
| 09:56.57 | sylvanaar | like, he had a day job + a family right? |
| 09:57.28 | syeren | Well the idea was already made, all that was needed to be done was for it to be accepted, but as Sylvanaar said. |
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| 09:58.23 | syeren | http://pastey.net/98145 |
| 09:58.34 | orionshock | sylvanaar: how many years of work did WAU get? 3/4? |
| 09:58.45 | syeren | How is this supposed to be fixed? It's some remnant of having CC on my system :/ |
| 09:59.02 | sylvanaar | well, PProvost wrote it in 2006 maybe septemberish |
| 09:59.16 | Bruners | syeren: what addon did you install to brake it? |
| 09:59.25 | syeren | I didn't install ANYTHING. |
| 09:59.33 | syeren | I simply installed the client, logged in. |
| 09:59.39 | sylvanaar | then in november i started making fixes |
| 09:59.39 | Bruners | what addon did the updater update then |
| 09:59.41 | syeren | And then that was that. |
| 09:59.55 | Bruners | clicl activity and find out |
| 09:59.59 | sylvanaar | of 2006 |
| 10:00.00 | orionshock | syeren: best thing that we've found is to start with an empty addon folder and then install addons via CC |
| 10:01.19 | sylvanaar | Bruners there were alot of addons back then too |
| 10:02.29 | syeren | This is going to be super duper fun. |
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| 10:03.26 | syeren | I think as extra fun the client should delete people's WTF folder aswell, that would make the process even more enjoyable! |
| 10:03.51 | syeren | Is there anyway to make windows make a note pad list of the contents of a directory or something? |
| 10:03.57 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 10:04.05 | Bruners | it doesnt always delete folders when it removes addons |
| 10:04.11 | sylvanaar | from the command line |
| 10:04.31 | Bruners | dir >file.txt or something |
| 10:04.39 | sylvanaar | thats good enough |
| 10:04.49 | cncfanatics | or you can just be smart and backup ur addons & wtf folders before using an autoupdater ? |
| 10:05.04 | orionshock | ^^ like it's sugested... or should be... |
| 10:05.27 | cncfanatics | idealy it shld make the backup itself, but I guess it ain't that smart yet |
| 10:05.39 | sylvanaar | ~ dir /ad-h /b >myaddons.txt |
| 10:05.56 | Repo | 10fu-bar_net-worth-fu: 03exor674 07master * d334243 / (5 files in 1 directory): [new] |
| 10:06.10 | cncfanatics | ~seen wraithan |
| 10:06.12 | purl | wraithan <n=wraithan@c-76-105-207-118.hsd1.or.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 14d 15h 12m 5s ago, saying: 'Can I still use something like Mr.Plow with Combuctor... never noticed that addon before but I really like Mr.Plow + Bagnon '. |
| 10:06.48 | orionshock | & BTW everyone, it is me or are there several "Modular" addons that where put in to separate projects that should now be recombined.. like.. BigWigs for example |
| 10:07.02 | sylvanaar | they should |
| 10:07.50 | syeren | My back up is a couple of weeks old, I didn't expect it to do what it wanted when I installed the program :p |
| 10:07.56 | orionshock | ...like the BigWigs_<OldWorld> mods should be re-assimilated back into it's collective, eh [Ammo] ? |
| 10:08.26 | sylvanaar | or at least the naxx one |
| 10:08.42 | sylvanaar | which it largely functional |
| 10:08.48 | sylvanaar | on wotlk |
| 10:09.15 | orionshock | all the other ones like "NajAssist" and "ThaddiusArrows" can stay in their own projects... |
| 10:10.16 | sylvanaar | yeah, i made some edits to the razuvious module im still hem-hawing about checking them in. |
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| 10:11.35 | sylvanaar | it really is the same old naxx |
| 10:11.57 | sylvanaar | thaddius' enrage is a min longer, and some boss abilities were removed. |
| 10:12.25 | sb|work | like... polarity shift? :p |
| 10:12.32 | sb|work | does he have any other abilities? ;) |
| 10:13.06 | sylvanaar | 2 separate statements |
| 10:15.34 | sylvanaar | gluth i think had a fear thats not there, unbalancing strike is just straight damage, |
| 10:15.50 | Kazie | Will addon on files.wowace.com still be updated like it has uptill now? |
| 10:15.52 | sylvanaar | on razuvious. |
| 10:15.55 | sylvanaar | no |
| 10:16.18 | sylvanaar | it hasnt been updated in a while has it |
| 10:16.21 | orionshock | Kazie: no.. files is dead |
| 10:17.09 | Kazie | So what they did is force us to use curse?... crap |
| 10:17.33 | syeren | As you can see, public opinion is positive! |
| 10:17.49 | Kazie | Where do i see that? |
| 10:18.10 | Elkano | omg... god bless america... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXY2fImfr7Y |
| 10:19.04 | syeren | Kazie, nothing to do with you :p |
| 10:19.16 | mitch0 | orion: do I have to monkey around with SetOwner/Show/Hide if I want to use the ItemRefTooltip? or is that taken care of? or from another pov: will I screw things up if I Hide(); SetOwner(); before SetHyperlink() ? |
| 10:20.36 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1642 / (6 files in 5 directories): - Redone the Blacksmith page |
| 10:20.37 | Repo | - Small change to the set page |
| 10:20.43 | orionshock | iirc, you could do SetItemRefTooltip(link) then ItemRefTooltip:Hide() |
| 10:20.46 | orionshock | .. might work... |
| 10:21.51 | mitch0 | oh well, guess I'll have to experiment with it. will localize the cache thing to a separate function :) |
| 10:21.56 | sylvanaar | well, in hindsight, i think they should have had thier community reps out talking to people more actively over the weekend. you'll probably get more communication from them today |
| 10:22.37 | sylvanaar | you can always try to find tooltipexchange - i dont know why i keep thinking about it |
| 10:24.10 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: ok, will take a look. thanks |
| 10:24.36 | syeren | Sigh. |
| 10:24.41 | syeren | This is just horrible :< |
| 10:25.07 | orionshock | where is that thread by kael about the move?? did it fall off the face of the forums in the move? |
| 10:25.08 | syeren | [2008/10/13 11:19:58-1299-x1]: LibMobHealth-4.0\LibMobHealth-4.0.lua:48: attempt to index local 'frame' (a nil value) |
| 10:25.08 | syeren | --- |
| 10:25.09 | sylvanaar | im sure they will have their CR's around later |
| 10:25.15 | sylvanaar | if you want to talk with them |
| 10:25.27 | syeren | Which is causing a bunch of problems with DogTags :/ |
| 10:25.42 | orionshock | syeren: use embedded libs? |
| 10:25.44 | syeren | And I went and downloaded the libs single handidly X_X |
| 10:25.44 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: just delete LMH 4 from Pitbull/libs |
| 10:25.46 | syeren | I am doing. |
| 10:25.52 | Kazie | Anyone who knows where Pitbull is beeing uploaded and updated now? .. it's not on wowui or curse :o |
| 10:25.53 | syeren | Okay Dodge. |
| 10:26.15 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: its useless after 3.0 hits live |
| 10:26.20 | sylvanaar | someone make an answerbot please |
| 10:26.20 | Bruners | Kazie: it is on curse |
| 10:26.26 | syeren | I know, but I'm European :P |
| 10:26.27 | orionshock | Kazie: ckknight prolly hasn't pushed an update on pitbull so it hasn't synched to curse yet |
| 10:26.34 | syeren | Which would mean 2 days of 10000000000 errors a second. |
| 10:27.03 | Kazie | Bruners: well ye it is.. but it's several months old. |
| 10:27.03 | sylvanaar | im pretty sure i have seen this discussed just recently |
| 10:27.06 | [SW]Dodge | Kazie: it is on curse.... http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pit-bull.aspx |
| 10:27.29 | Bruners | Kazie: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pit-bull.aspx Last Update: 13 hours, 5 minutes ago |
| 10:27.38 | [SW]Dodge | syeren: i'm eu too, and after droping LMH it works fine :) |
| 10:27.52 | syeren | Yeah, thanks :p |
| 10:27.55 | syeren | I finally have health again. |
| 10:28.07 | Kazie | hmm... something wrong with their search engine thingy then.. :s the ones it found when i searched for "Pitbull" was several months old.. not 13 hours like that one :o.. anyways.. ty dodge :P |
| 10:29.38 | Bruners | Kazie: the search thingie is fubar |
| 10:29.55 | Kazie | Bruners: what are you talking about? |
| 10:30.16 | Bruners | Kazie: that the search thing on curse is fubar |
| 10:30.17 | Kazie | Curse search engine should cover all their addons |
| 10:30.29 | Kazie | that's kinda stupid |
| 10:31.03 | Kazie | It shouldn't say "Find an Addon: <tekst field>" |
| 10:31.12 | Kazie | if it's only for fubar |
| 10:31.19 | syeren | It spent 3 attempts looking for Pitbull, it couldn't find it. |
| 10:31.27 | syeren | So I just had to find a link to it on the main page! |
| 10:31.42 | sylvanaar | [13 06:26] <sylvanaar> someone make an answerbot please |
| 10:32.23 | Bruners | Kazie: fubar - fucked up beyond all recognition |
| 10:32.25 | Trela | The search engine can not find my new AddOn either, so do not feel bad. :P~ |
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| 10:32.37 | Cheads | sylvanaar quiescens : I deleted my chat-cache.txt for the character, redid the settings and now it works. |
| 10:32.51 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 10:33.01 | sylvanaar | thats why i hate chatcache |
| 10:33.07 | Cheads | :) |
| 10:33.13 | Kazie | Bruners: What are you talking about? .. tbh.. i have no freakin' idea what you're talking about right now.. the search engine on curse has nothing to do with fubar, exept that it can find it for you. |
| 10:33.40 | Bruners | i give up |
| 10:34.08 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 06wrath 07master * 70336d7 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add table recycling, internal functions and code for TPS calcs. TPS not displayed anywhere yet. |
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| 10:34.16 | Kazie | me2.. cuz fubar haven't really been mentioned and doesn't really fit into my first statement. |
| 10:34.22 | Cheads | fubar can also mean something else than the fubar addon =) |
| 10:35.07 | Kazie | I don't know about that, but if it's not the addon he should mention it when the topic is.. addons |
| 10:35.54 | Bruners | 12:32:22 < Bruners> Kazie: fubar - fucked up beyond all recognition |
| 10:38.40 | Bruners | Kazie: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fubar |
| 10:39.23 | Thelyna | does anyone know if Grid r79901 is wotlk-compatible? |
| 10:40.10 | Cheads | seems like it's abandoned =( |
| 10:40.47 | syeren | Could anyone suggest a minimap addon for 3.0? |
| 10:40.51 | syeren | Chinchilla is being left to die. |
| 10:40.56 | Thelyna | mm, maybe I'll take a look at it |
| 10:40.59 | Kazie | SimpleMinimap |
| 10:41.07 | orionshock | minimapster? |
| 10:41.18 | Cheads | Squeenix |
| 10:42.02 | Repo | 10wf3sec: 03Heda * r61 / (2 files in 1 directory): WF3sec: Ext update |
| 10:43.07 | wallen | Thelyna: I've been using Grid r1013 with wotlk, I get few lua errors from time to time but it doesn't look broken |
| 10:43.09 | Bruners | syeren: who told you that? |
| 10:43.12 | wallen | and it's the best you can get at the moment |
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| 10:48.18 | ReAn | muahahaha |
| 10:48.32 | ReAn | i just wasted 10 seconds of your life! |
| 10:49.50 | sylvanaar | you did, how can you possibly replace it |
| 10:49.52 | Kazie | 36 dual-boxer.. lawl.. solo raiding :o |
| 10:50.07 | ReAn | Kazie: he wont get far |
| 10:50.09 | ReAn | he's all shamen |
| 10:50.11 | ReAn | no tanks |
| 10:50.33 | ReAn | that and |
| 10:50.37 | ReAn | wotlk will fuck him |
| 10:50.43 | ReAn | no bloodlust stacking |
| 10:50.51 | Kazie | That's not really the point :P .. besides.. he's not all shaman.. he's got every class almost.. the point is that it's insane |
| 10:50.51 | ReAn | and 1 shaman can totem the whole lot |
| 10:50.52 | Pneumatus | no chain heros |
| 10:51.15 | Pneumatus | he can 1shot anything in pvp with 36 CLs tho :) |
| 10:51.36 | ReAn | 36 lbs can 1-shot anything too |
| 10:51.45 | ReAn | i wonder what bgroup he's in |
| 10:52.34 | Kazie | Welcome to the world of no life: http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x45/Xzin-WoW/mycomputers022fo5.jpg |
| 10:52.57 | ReAn | ew |
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| 10:53.01 | ReAn | he's wunning vista |
| 10:53.03 | ReAn | running even |
| 10:53.04 | wallen | Why does allara keep on deleting my "suggestion" tickets without even commenting on them? :( |
| 10:53.42 | Kazie | MAybe they are trash suggestions? .. who knows |
| 10:54.02 | rndmtngnt | who would bother having that many accounts? |
| 10:54.16 | rndmtngnt | 36 dualbox = 36 accounts? |
| 10:54.23 | Cheads | yes |
| 10:54.30 | ReAn | btw both of you |
| 10:54.31 | wallen | I just asked him for timestamps support which is not that weird for a combatlog addon |
| 10:54.39 | ReAn | if it's over 2, it's called multi-box, not dual-box |
| 10:54.49 | rndmtngnt | lol yah |
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| 11:02.51 | Repo | 10fu-bar_epic-count-fu: 03exor674 07master * f9c5b4a / (6 files in 1 directory): [new] |
| 11:05.21 | Repo | 10fu-bar_net-worth-fu: 03exor674 07master * 8e004ad / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 11:05.21 | Repo | 8e004ad: Tab cleanup, Pre-3.0 version, 3.0 (beta) compat |
| 11:05.22 | Repo | 0434bb5: Missed Abacus in the embeds.xml file |
| 11:30.16 | Pneumatus | i've been using Chronometer for god knows how long but it looks like it's not been updated/maintained for ages.. can anyone suggest a replacement? |
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| 11:31.46 | ReAn | what is it? |
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| 11:32.04 | Pneumatus | buff/debuff timer candybars |
| 11:32.13 | ReAn | oh |
| 11:32.18 | ReAn | one sec |
| 11:32.45 | ReAn | Ellipsis |
| 11:32.49 | ReAn | it's WotLK Ready |
| 11:32.54 | ReAn | Multi-Target Dot Timers |
| 11:33.11 | ReAn | hot/dot/spell/etc... |
| 11:33.24 | ReAn | id give you a link, but it's WoWI |
| 11:33.31 | ReAn | and this is WoWAce >_> |
| 11:33.58 | Trela | sb|work: ping |
| 11:34.08 | Pneumatus | found it, will take a look cheers |
| 11:34.34 | wallen | Pneumatus: classtimer works as well |
| 11:35.15 | Cheads | oh, classtimer bugged for me on beta |
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| 11:35.54 | Eimhin | RBM_AbilityWatch? |
| 11:35.59 | wallen | I've been using it and it's working fine |
| 11:36.03 | wallen | what kind of buf did you run into? |
| 11:36.07 | wallen | bug* |
| 11:36.36 | Cheads | the new DoTimer might be nice =) |
| 11:37.16 | wallen | Quite off topic, does anyone watch True Blood? |
| 11:37.30 | ReAn | danmit, where have i heard that name before? |
| 11:37.35 | Jygaa | hm do you think dragging your twinks through Wailing Cavers and so on is faster than questing solo? |
| 11:37.51 | Jygaa | its only 70xp when rested per mob |
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| 11:38.40 | ReAn | Jygaa: it all depends on your clear speed of WC |
| 11:38.49 | ReAn | a decent mage can clear it in 20 minutes flat |
| 11:39.03 | ReAn | a lvl 18-24 prolly will get 2/3 a level off a full clear |
| 11:39.17 | ReAn | so in ahn hour you can get 2 levels |
| 11:39.29 | ReAn | as you scale up tho the exp gains are minimal and it becomes less usefull |
| 11:39.51 | ReAn | a shaman wont be able to clear WC as fast |
| 11:39.53 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r4 LibSpell.lua: Added TwoWords function to :Suggest |
| 11:39.56 | Eimhin | Jygaa: i would say no imo. good questing circuits are faster since the quest rewards are so high now |
| 11:40.00 | syeren | Playing Hello Kitty Online while listening to Hip Hop. |
| 11:40.00 | ReAn | so it's not worth it |
| 11:40.01 | syeren | Fuck yeah. |
| 11:40.41 | Jygaa | ya got a 70 mage dragging all of em one after another and it takes around 14 minutes when not looting |
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| 11:41.07 | ReAn | yea so you prolly can make 18->24 in 3 hours |
| 11:41.11 | ReAn | which is faster than leveling |
| 11:42.05 | ReAn | my friend usually gets me to "run" his alts through each instance once on his way up |
| 11:42.12 | ReAn | not counting lvl 55-60 tho |
| 11:42.16 | ReAn | cuz that's a lot of instances |
| 11:42.20 | ReAn | and a waste of my time |
| 11:42.37 | ReAn | im good at it tho, i've got a 70 mage and a 70 feral tank w/ T5-level tanking capability |
| 11:42.47 | ReAn | so i use the mage till the 40's |
| 11:42.59 | ReAn | and then clean up easily w/ the tank when stuff starts to hit a bit |
| 11:44.38 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1643 / (8 files in 8 directories): Added Deadly Gladiator Weapons, created PvP Atlas menu |
| 11:45.03 | ReAn | fuck |
| 11:45.16 | ReAn | my laptop's 'PATH' environment variable is getting fucking huge |
| 11:46.11 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1644 DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: Loot Browser updated |
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| 11:53.15 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1645 DefaultFrame/DewDropDown.lua: Fixed minor loot browser bug |
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| 11:55.58 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1646 Core/Crafting.lua: |
| 11:55.59 | Repo | Fixed *hopefully* the last bug caused by a blacksmithing page deletion. |
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| 12:03.59 | wallen | Has anyone ever added triggers to Parrot by editing the triggers.lua file? |
| 12:04.16 | Srosh | Mh, will LibQuickHealth be obsolete in 3.0.2? |
| 12:06.03 | orionshock | Srosh: yes |
| 12:06.15 | Srosh | Thanks. |
| 12:06.50 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r27 addon/modules.lua: Removed debug code which declares modules as globals. |
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| 12:07.23 | sylvanaar | the hazards of having to do tags |
| 12:08.00 | sylvanaar | not worth retagging |
| 12:09.28 | orionshock | hehe, segments, develop in segments. Code and perfect up to a point. Tag it. then move on to the next round of things to phuck with |
| 12:10.32 | digmouse | how far is council's aggro distance? |
| 12:10.51 | digmouse | stand to 41 yd will pull them or not? |
| 12:11.09 | Pneumatus | eugh |
| 12:11.21 | Pneumatus | why on earth did they make it so you target lightwells when you click them |
| 12:11.48 | Trela | Wow, so they attempt to fix Lightwell and still make it worse. |
| 12:12.19 | orionshock | Xinhuan: u got an ETA on omen3? is it ready for patch day? |
| 12:12.32 | Xinhuan | you can use it already |
| 12:12.40 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/repositories/wrath/files/ |
| 12:12.48 | Xinhuan | its only missing a TPS display atm |
| 12:13.12 | Chompers | Fisker-, fix my eu torrent |
| 12:13.25 | Xinhuan | feel free to try to break omen and give usability feedback |
| 12:13.28 | Jygga | Chompers stage3 ? |
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| 12:13.49 | Srosh | Is there a reason Grid is still using LibBabble-Spell-3.0? |
| 12:13.54 | Chompers | what's stage3? |
| 12:14.07 | Jygga | the current patch available on predl |
| 12:14.15 | Jygga | thought you meant that |
| 12:14.16 | Chompers | oh |
| 12:14.28 | Jygga | do you? |
| 12:14.30 | Jygga | ^^ |
| 12:14.36 | Gaurong | anyone know of an addon that increases the friends list limit? |
| 12:14.39 | Jygga | downloading it with a real torrent client really helped me |
| 12:14.48 | Chompers | i'll give it a go, thanks |
| 12:14.50 | Jygga | the .torrent is in /Cache/ |
| 12:15.01 | Zyndrome | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 12:16.12 | Jygga | havent found any mirror that serves me 1.5MBit so ill stick with the torrents :P |
| 12:16.21 | Jygga | not that speed is crucial ... |
| 12:16.29 | Jygga | but it makes me feel good ^^ |
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| 12:23.17 | orionshock | is grid functional on PTR/beta? |
| 12:24.56 | Pneumatus | no idea if its been updated, but the live version works with a replacement UTF8 lib |
| 12:25.05 | mitch0 | how do I check if a list is empty? |
| 12:25.12 | mitch0 | (list == table) |
| 12:25.53 | Xinhuan | wtb Afflicted having timers for the moving parts in the new lvl 80 arenas ;p |
| 12:28.35 | mitch0 | #({1,2}) == 2, am I right? |
| 12:28.49 | mitch0 | also, {1,2}[1] == 1 |
| 12:29.02 | sb|work | ask lua_bot :) |
| 12:29.03 | stew_a | lua>#({1,2}) |
| 12:29.03 | lua_bot | stew_a: 2 |
| 12:29.16 | stew_a | lua> {1,2}[1] |
| 12:29.16 | lua_bot | stew_a: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '{' |
| 12:29.42 | mitch0 | lua> a = {1,2}; a[1] |
| 12:29.43 | lua_bot | mitch0: luabot:1: '=' expected near '<eof>' |
| 12:29.54 | mitch0 | bah |
| 12:30.03 | stew_a | lua> a = {1,2}; print(a[1]) |
| 12:30.04 | lua_bot | stew_a: 1 |
| 12:30.07 | sb|work | lua> ({1,2})[1] |
| 12:30.07 | lua_bot | sb|work: 1 |
| 12:30.18 | mitch0 | thanks ;) |
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| 12:31.36 | Repo | 10gt100gcx: 03kunda * r10 / (3 files in 1 directory): GT100GCX: |
| 12:31.36 | Repo | - Interface: 30000 |
| 12:31.37 | Repo | - update for WoW client 3.0.2 (Buttons / InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory function) |
| 12:31.39 | Repo | - changed slashcommands to: /gc - /gcx - /gt100gcx (sorry) |
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| 12:34.47 | sylvanaar | orionshock some ppl have been using it in my guild for a week orso, so i think so |
| 12:35.02 | sylvanaar | beta |
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| 12:41.34 | sb|work | wtb patch announcement ö= |
| 12:41.36 | sb|work | :) |
| 12:41.43 | stew_a | indeed |
| 12:41.53 | stew_a | but for next week :P |
| 12:42.46 | sb|work | nah... this week would perfectly fit the TBC release cycle, and since we already have a version freeze... |
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| 12:43.21 | stew_a | yeah but next week gives us one more week to get ready, and one more naxx run :P |
| 12:43.36 | sylvanaar | are people still using bankstack? or something else? |
| 12:43.41 | Arrowmaster | wont happen |
| 12:43.44 | Arrowmaster | its this week |
| 12:43.56 | Arrowmaster | 2.4.3 does not have the new hallows end stuff |
| 12:44.09 | sylvanaar | the patch was already announced |
| 12:44.48 | sb|work | Arrowmaster: oh, more items to waste my free bag space? :P |
| 12:45.00 | sylvanaar | they disappear |
| 12:45.22 | Arrowmaster | shutup and enjoy spending 2 weeks farming a rare mount again |
| 12:45.28 | sb|work | hehe :) |
| 12:45.35 | sb|work | i didnt get the kodo! |
| 12:45.39 | Arrowmaster | i did! |
| 12:45.45 | stew_a | i did, w00t kodo |
| 12:45.50 | sb|work | but my girlfriend did... *sigh* :P |
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| 12:46.19 | sylvanaar | by the way CC works just fine for me |
| 12:46.33 | sb|work | same here sylvanaar |
| 12:46.34 | sylvanaar | you just need to delete all your addons |
| 12:46.41 | sylvanaar | and start from scratch |
| 12:46.45 | sb|work | yup |
| 12:46.53 | mitch0 | which ont is better, tinsert(t, item), or t:insert(item) ? |
| 12:47.04 | sylvanaar | good chance to clean house too |
| 12:47.05 | sb|work | thats what i did and recommended to all my guildies... "patch will come, so you have to do this anyways" |
| 12:47.06 | mitch0 | (not on a time-critical path) |
| 12:47.10 | Arrowmaster | tinsert |
| 12:47.17 | Arrowmaster | since t:insert doesnt exist |
| 12:47.22 | mitch0 | ah |
| 12:47.27 | mitch0 | :) |
| 12:47.56 | Josh_Borke | lua> local t = {}; t:insert("bob") |
| 12:47.56 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'insert' (a nil value) |
| 12:48.25 | Josh_Borke | lua> local t = { ["insert"] = table.insert }; t:insert("bob") |
| 12:48.25 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: No output |
| 12:48.31 | Repo | 10mis-information: 03Anyia3 * r29 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:48.32 | Repo | * Update to point the externals to libstub instead of lib-stub. Looks like |
| 12:48.33 | Repo | the import from wowace got that mixed up. |
| 12:48.35 | Josh_Borke | lua> local t = { ["insert"] = table.insert }; t:insert("bob"); for k, v in pairs(t) do print(k) end |
| 12:48.35 | lua_bot | Josh_Borke: 1, insert |
| 12:50.03 | [SW]Dodge | http://dodgex.servegame.com/warhammer.jpg <- fail? |
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| 12:51.19 | sylvanaar | cool the client lets you choose release, beta, alpha as thresholds you want to download |
| 12:51.25 | Repo | 10mis-information: 03Anyia3 042.0 * r30 : Tagging as 2.0. |
| 12:51.56 | [SW]Dodge | sylvanaar: but alpha does not work yet afaik |
| 12:52.06 | sylvanaar | no clue |
| 12:52.11 | [SW]Dodge | the data feed for the client does not deliver alpha releases |
| 12:52.11 | sylvanaar | i just see the option |
| 12:52.24 | [SW]Dodge | that was what nev told me last time ^^ |
| 12:52.34 | sylvanaar | seems to be true |
| 12:52.56 | Pneumatus | i'd guess due to alphas not being synced to curse |
| 12:53.16 | sylvanaar | maybe |
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| 12:54.45 | sylvanaar | they need to really fix the html thats generated as the description, it needs a stylsheet orsomething |
| 12:55.26 | sb|work | sylvanaar: alpha isnt syndicated - so this setting is useless :p |
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| 12:58.49 | Repo | 10wf3sec: 03Heda * r62 / (3 files in 1 directory): WF3sec: GUI added |
| 13:02.04 | [SW]Dodge | sylvanaar: the problem with the description is that the widget used for that only support very (VERY) basic html |
| 13:03.13 | sylvanaar | clearly |
| 13:04.37 | [SW]Dodge | lol noes -.- need /dump on ptr <.< |
| 13:04.48 | sylvanaar | the list needs some help - list boxes are such a bitch |
| 13:04.55 | sylvanaar | lol, i use ace2 |
| 13:05.40 | [SW]Dodge | and i need prat! -.-' stupid default chat crap |
| 13:05.52 | sylvanaar | prat works |
| 13:06.11 | sylvanaar | prat3 |
| 13:06.14 | [SW]Dodge | hmm |
| 13:06.34 | sylvanaar | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/prat-3-0.aspx |
| 13:06.34 | [SW]Dodge | prat 3 does not support "arrow-up-key" if chat frame is open? :( |
| 13:06.48 | [SW]Dodge | sylvanaar : i have it in my ptr folder, just needd to enable it ;P |
| 13:07.24 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle * r179 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed LibDebugLog-1.0 URL in .pkgmeta. |
| 13:07.25 | Repo | Fixed library paths in modules.xml (only affect working copies). |
| 13:07.26 | sylvanaar | basically, anything thats not on when you install it may still have bugs. |
| 13:07.54 | sylvanaar | but just report them, and they'll get fixed |
| 13:08.25 | Xinhuan | default is alt+up |
| 13:08.31 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 13:08.46 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle 04v2.0.1 * r180 : Tagging as v2.0.1. |
| 13:08.46 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: ah ok :> |
| 13:08.48 | Bruners | sylvanaar: how is prat3 now compared to chatter? |
| 13:08.58 | sylvanaar | oh, magic rule - any feaure i dont use personally - may have bugs |
| 13:11.17 | sylvanaar | prat is positioned as a high-feature addon. there are many super minimal addons which do almost nothing. i think chatter is positioned somewhere in the middle |
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| 13:11.48 | fauxpas | someone should fix the link in the topic :P |
| 13:12.09 | sylvanaar | what |
| 13:12.38 | fauxpas | it's got a pipe in the end |
| 13:15.41 | sylvanaar | Bruners thats about all the comparison i can give - i'd rather that they coexisted |
| 13:16.55 | mitch0 | lua> a = {1, 2}; print(a[#(a)]); tremove(a); print(a[#(a)]); |
| 13:16.55 | lua_bot | mitch0: 2, luabot:1: attempt to call global 'tremove' (a nil value) |
| 13:17.01 | Stanzilla | Prat is currently maintained, Chatter is not :P |
| 13:17.19 | mitch0 | hrmp |
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| 13:18.32 | mitch0 | tremove is still valid in wow, right? |
| 13:18.39 | sylvanaar | Oh, and by the way, I'm always looking for people who want to develop prat with me, or integrate their addon and prat |
| 13:18.51 | Obelixprime | is there a way to see wotlk/3.0.2 addons on curse? |
| 13:19.01 | Srosh | Someone else got the problem that BanzaiAlert isn't playing sound on beta? Aggro notification works (in chat f.e.), and the sound file works fine other addons (via LSM), too. |
| 13:19.10 | Srosh | +in |
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| 13:20.33 | Bruners | sylvanaar: get fane like tabs |
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| 13:21.26 | sb|work | yup, or even better: get all those haste addons as plugins :p |
| 13:22.14 | sb|work | fane, enen, tenmetsu |
| 13:22.43 | sylvanaar | i cant recall what they do |
| 13:23.02 | Bruners | http://wow-haste.googlecode.com/svn/tags/ read tocs :P |
| 13:23.24 | sb|work | fane: clean chat tab layout |
| 13:23.29 | sylvanaar | i see |
| 13:23.35 | sb|work | enen: flash forever |
| 13:24.03 | sb|work | tenmetsu: flash for all message types |
| 13:24.20 | ramoz | think its been a while since haste stopped using googlecode |
| 13:24.42 | sb|work | (fane also changes 'flash' to 'change font color permanently' (e.g. red :p) |
| 13:25.12 | sylvanaar | right |
| 13:25.35 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1647 / (3 files in 3 directories): Added Arena Ratings to Hateful Gladiator sets |
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| 13:26.27 | [SW]Dodge | hmm is there a way to avoid Repo to report commits with commit message? |
| 13:26.28 | sylvanaar | yeah, i had done that once in the past on a local copy, i tried to get it working briefly for 3.0 but they changed how that text is colored, so I moved onto something else |
| 13:27.44 | ckknight | [SW]Dodge: why would you want to? |
| 13:27.51 | ckknight | [SW]Dodge: but currently, no |
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| 13:28.23 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight: just asking :P |
| 13:28.23 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r189 CooldownButtons.toc: small toc update to use @project-version@ vor Version tag |
| 13:28.42 | [SW]Dodge | ^- such spam is not needed :P |
| 13:28.45 | Bruners | [SW]Dodge: you could flood him out and then commit |
| 13:28.56 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: lool :P |
| 13:28.59 | Pneumatus | hmm, there are some trash drop epics in hyjal that have apparently been seen on BT trash as well |
| 13:29.05 | Pneumatus | like http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=32590#dropped-by |
| 13:29.17 | Pneumatus | the droprates in BT look far too low to be right though o.O |
| 13:29.24 | sylvanaar | i like the spam, lets me know whats happening |
| 13:29.27 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 06wrath 07master * 30d5b7c / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Localize strings, correct grammar and spelling, fix close menu error, add hide omen menu item. |
| 13:29.31 | sb|work | sylvanaar: all those addons are like ~10 lines of code ;) |
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| 13:30.06 | Bruners | US is getting patched tonight? |
| 13:30.47 | sb|work | Bruners: no idea :P but possible |
| 13:30.52 | Bruners | this should say that i should turn off auto update in curseclient :P |
| 13:30.54 | [SW]Dodge | i hope yes. that would mean EU is tomorrow night :P |
| 13:31.29 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07IsItemInRange * r10 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: |
| 13:31.29 | Repo | IsItemInRange based checks implemented, drycode, item lists are not tested, more items are needed |
| 13:32.10 | sylvanaar | sb|work yeah they are, itd be nice if haste wanted to package them in the form of a prat addon, but i dont see it happening, nor do i want to copy his stuff. |
| 13:32.32 | sb|work | mhh.. yup, i think you wont see that happening :o |
| 13:32.34 | sylvanaar | since thats just more code for me to maintain. |
| 13:33.31 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: I got a few weird errors running Omen 2.0.4 with an external copy of Ace3 (I think) yesterday that I wanna say were Interface XML dropdown stuff... |
| 13:34.00 | Xinhuan | who the hell still cares about 2.0 or 2.4 stuff |
| 13:34.26 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: that's the only copy I found on WowAce to download but I didn't go looking for a wrath branch or anything |
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| 13:34.42 | Xinhuan | what are you trying to do? |
| 13:34.42 | ShaneSveller | because the "files for this clone" link disappeared on me |
| 13:34.45 | Xinhuan | find a wrath copy? |
| 13:34.52 | Xinhuan | it didn't disappear, its on the "next line" |
| 13:34.59 | Xinhuan | in white text on nearly biege background |
| 13:35.14 | ShaneSveller | ahh, yeah, I just overlooked that |
| 13:35.17 | Xinhuan | you can bitch at the curse ppl for that |
| 13:35.19 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 13:35.39 | ShaneSveller | sorry, partied a little too hard for my birthday saturday night, was only semi-functional yesterday |
| 13:35.39 | sylvanaar | the wim author pazza has been real good about working with me so that our addons integrate together |
| 13:36.16 | Repo | 10twin-cam_overlay: 03Anyia3 * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 13:36.17 | Repo | * Updated the LibStub externals link to point to libstub instead of lib-stub. |
| 13:36.17 | Repo | Looks like the import from WoWAce got that one wrong. |
| 13:36.19 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: I was so confused because I had downloaded a different copy like 3-4 days before that worked just fine, lol |
| 13:37.21 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 13:37.54 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 06wrath * r93 SimpleMD.lua: |
| 13:37.55 | Repo | SimpleMD: use strict combat log parsing for gains and fades, comm is only used for cooldowns and readiness |
| 13:38.54 | ShaneSveller | does the wrath branch of Omen use the threat api now? not that there's any reason why it wouldn't, but i wasn't sure if that was implemented yet. |
| 13:39.11 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07IsItemInRange * r11 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: safety net around debug fucntion |
| 13:39.14 | Repo | 10twin-cam_overlay: 03Anyia3 041.6 * r16 : Tagging as the 1.6 it really is. |
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| 13:44.32 | [SW]Dodge | ShaneSveller: sure i does |
| 13:44.45 | [SW]Dodge | at least omen3 will ;) |
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| 13:48.46 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r97 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 13:48.47 | Repo | Remove tsvn:logtemplate. Fix InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToFrame --> InterfaceOptionsFrame_OpenToCategory for Wrath/PTR. |
| 13:49.36 | phyber | did the old wowace wiki end up somewhere that's still browsable or do we have to checkout libraries and look in the comments for docs at the moment? |
| 13:49.51 | Josh_Borke | old.wowace.com has some stuff |
| 13:50.04 | phyber | excellent :) |
| 13:53.31 | Pneumatus | lua> t = { ["alpha"] = true, ["beta"] = true }; for k, _ in pairs(t) do table.insert(t, k) end; print(t); |
| 13:53.31 | lua_bot | Pneumatus: table: 0x8082c38 |
| 13:54.25 | Elkano | lua> t = { ["alpha"] = true, ["beta"] = true }; for k, _ in pairs(t) do table.insert(t, k) end; for k,v in pairs(t) do print k.." => "..v; end |
| 13:54.26 | lua_bot | Elkano: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'k' |
| 13:55.05 | Elkano | lua> t = { ["alpha"] = true, ["beta"] = true }; for k, _ in pairs(t) do table.insert(t, k) end; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k.." => "..v); end |
| 13:55.05 | lua_bot | Elkano: 1 => alpha, 2 => beta, luabot:1: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a boolean value) |
| 13:55.30 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 13:55.35 | Elkano | lua> t = { ["alpha"] = true, ["beta"] = true }; for k, _ in pairs(t) do table.insert(t, k) end; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k.." => "..v and "true" or "false"); end |
| 13:55.35 | lua_bot | Elkano: true, true, luabot:1: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a boolean value) |
| 13:55.37 | Pneumatus | well that does what i'd expect it to do... |
| 13:55.45 | Elkano | lua> t = { ["alpha"] = true, ["beta"] = true }; for k, _ in pairs(t) do table.insert(t, k) end; for k,v in pairs(t) do print(k.." => "..(v and "true" or "false")); end |
| 13:55.46 | lua_bot | Elkano: 1 => true, 2 => true, alpha => true, beta => true |
| 13:56.04 | [SW]Dodge | ~seen yssaril |
| 13:56.05 | purl | yssaril <n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-19-62.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 13h 3m 50s ago, saying: 'fewyn: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-faq/'. |
| 13:56.12 | Elkano | gna ^^ forget it :/ |
| 13:56.19 | Pneumatus | lua> t = { ["alpha"] = true, ["beta"] = true }; for k, _ in pairs(t) do table.insert(t, k) end; print(table.concat(t)); |
| 13:56.19 | lua_bot | Pneumatus: alphabeta |
| 13:56.22 | fewyn | bah |
| 13:56.22 | [SW]Dodge | |Yssaril|: ping? |
| 13:56.26 | fewyn | you made my computer beep |
| 13:56.29 | fewyn | evil |
| 13:56.50 | Elkano | lua> t = { ["alpha"] = true, ["beta"] = true }; for k, _ in pairs(t) do table.insert(t, k) end; for k,v in ipairs(t) do print(k.." => "..v); end |
| 13:56.50 | lua_bot | Elkano: 1 => alpha, 2 => beta |
| 13:56.59 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 13:58.47 | Pneumatus | was checking if pairs() cocked up when you started adding more values into the table you're iterating :) |
| 13:59.40 | Elkano | ah ^^ |
| 13:59.46 | Pneumatus | it appears that WoW's behaviour is different to lua_bot's |
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| 14:00.56 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1648 / (5 files in 2 directories): - Set back buttons for the level 80 pvp stuff |
| 14:00.57 | Repo | - Cleaned the menus a bit |
| 14:00.59 | Pneumatus | trying to convert a set so that it can be table.concat()'ed |
| 14:01.31 | Pneumatus | and for some reason, if you table.insert inside a pairs(), strange things happen |
| 14:01.45 | Pneumatus | the first iteration gets added, but the 2nd onwards dont |
| 14:01.59 | [SW]Dodge | Pneumatus: it is facnt that WoW's behaviour is different to lua_bot's ;) |
| 14:02.00 | Xinhuan | yes, you may only safely remove items during pairs() or ipairs() or next() |
| 14:02.06 | Xinhuan | its in the lua documentation |
| 14:02.24 | Xinhuan | to be more specific, you may only remove items already iterated on, any other behavior is undefined |
| 14:02.24 | Repo | 10wf3sec: 03Heda * r63 / (2 files in 1 directory): WF3sec: Patch 3.0 MW preparations |
| 14:03.04 | digmouse | woot, didnt ever bring council to 70% |
| 14:03.16 | Pneumatus | that would explain it then, i was trying to recycle the same table converting from a set to a list, but im gonna have to use a 2nd table in that case |
| 14:03.29 | Elkano | Pneumatus it's strange, yes ^^ |
| 14:03.30 | Elkano | lua> local t = {[1] = 1, [2] = 2, [4] = 4} for k, v in pairs(t) do t[v+4] = v print(k.." => "..v) end |
| 14:03.30 | lua_bot | Elkano: 1 => 1, 2 => 2, 4 => 4, 5 => 1, 6 => 2, 8 => 4 |
| 14:04.33 | Pneumatus | lua_bot at least appears to run pairs() on the original table |
| 14:04.42 | Pneumatus | ignoring anything added |
| 14:04.55 | Pneumatus | but WoW just stops once the table has been modified once |
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| 14:05.05 | Elkano | no, then it should only print three pairs, but it prints six |
| 14:05.59 | Xinhuan | told you, the table behavior is undefined |
| 14:06.10 | Pneumatus | yeh, i'll just create an extra table :) |
| 14:06.19 | Xinhuan | depending on how lua is compiled to handle index vs hash tables |
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| 14:08.46 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 06wrath * r94 SimpleMD.lua: SimpleMD: rewrite the combat log parsing again |
| 14:09.37 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: not particularly true |
| 14:09.42 | cladhaire | You can ALWAYS remove keys from the table |
| 14:09.45 | cladhaire | whether you've passed htem or not |
| 14:09.52 | cladhaire | the only thing you can't do is add keys to the table |
| 14:09.55 | Xinhuan | if you read up further |
| 14:09.59 | Xinhuan | you'll see i meant adding to tables |
| 14:10.06 | Pneumatus | is there any difference/advantage in using t[#t+ |
| 14:10.09 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 14:10.11 | Pneumatus | zz |
| 14:10.13 | cladhaire | k k:P |
| 14:10.18 | cladhaire | Pneumatus: its faster |
| 14:10.23 | cladhaire | but a local counter is the fastest |
| 14:10.36 | Pneumatus | rather than table.insert() |
| 14:10.41 | cladhaire | i.e. local c = 1; t[c] = "foo"; c++ |
| 14:10.51 | cladhaire | pseudo-code of course :P |
| 14:10.51 | Pneumatus | stupid enter key finishing the sentance before i meant :> |
| 14:10.56 | cladhaire | i knew what ya meant! |
| 14:11.05 | cladhaire | you're just so damn eloquent |
| 14:11.53 | Xinhuan | i even prebuild lookup tables for unitIDs ;p |
| 14:11.59 | Pneumatus | so in reverse speed order, table.insert(t "foo"), t[#t+1]="foo", t[i++] = "foo" |
| 14:12.08 | cladhaire | yep |
| 14:12.13 | cladhaire | if i is a local variable :P |
| 14:12.19 | Pneumatus | yeh :) |
| 14:12.31 | Xinhuan | also table.insert(t "foo") is slower than tinsert(t, "foo") |
| 14:12.58 | cladhaire | naturally :P |
| 14:13.05 | ckknight | which is slower than t[#t+1] = "foo" |
| 14:13.54 | Pneumatus | so using #t+1 key is the fastest way without maintaing a local counter. right :) |
| 14:14.02 | cladhaire | correct |
| 14:14.14 | Xinhuan | it gets very slow at large i though |
| 14:14.31 | cladhaire | Xinhuan: really, it shouldn't. |
| 14:14.46 | cladhaire | the length operator shouldn't be linear |
| 14:14.48 | Pneumatus | checking for an empty table, is t == {} faster than #t == 0? |
| 14:14.48 | Xinhuan | does lua convert hash tables back into index ones? |
| 14:15.02 | Xinhuan | sometimes you may have emptied a table from 1-N and it changed into hash |
| 14:15.07 | cladhaire | Pneumatus: the first won't work |
| 14:15.23 | cladhaire | Pneumatus: if you want to see if ANY table is empty, check if next(tbl) == nil |
| 14:15.28 | Xinhuan | to check for an empty table, use next(t) |
| 14:15.48 | cladhaire | which wont' work if the table has a value that is false |
| 14:16.17 | mitch0 | next(t) == nil? |
| 14:16.21 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 14:16.33 | cladhaire | lua> print(next({}) == nil) |
| 14:16.33 | lua_bot | cladhaire: true |
| 14:17.10 | Xinhuan | next(t, val) returns the next key-value pair in the table, given that "val" passed in is the previous key of the key-value pair |
| 14:17.23 | Xinhuan | if val is nil, then you get the "first" key-value pair |
| 14:17.30 | Xinhuan | so an empty table would return nil |
| 14:17.39 | Xinhuan | next() is basically a more advanced version of pairs() |
| 14:17.59 | mitch0 | is an empty table an indexed table? does #t work if t = {} ? does it work if I populate the table with tinsert, and initialize it with t = { someitem } ? |
| 14:18.00 | cladhaire | we should make people write custom iterators before they're allowed to be part of the club :P |
| 14:18.21 | Xinhuan | haha, wait till you get to NESTED iterators |
| 14:18.28 | Xinhuan | NESTED custom iterators that is |
| 14:18.30 | cladhaire | mitch0: # always "works".. but its only ' |
| 14:18.49 | cladhaire | "valid" for tables that fit the description of an "array" as its referred to in the Lua reference manual |
| 14:18.51 | Xinhuan | re-entrant custom iterators are a bitch to write |
| 14:19.18 | [SW]Dodge | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ace3/pages/getting-started/ <- missing acetimer -.- |
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| 14:20.29 | cladhaire | hrm, the sidebar on the wiki pages makes me sad =/ |
| 14:20.39 | cladhaire | takes up soo much space on the page |
| 14:21.21 | ckknight | yea, I agree |
| 14:21.39 | ckknight | wondering how to better lay it out |
| 14:22.00 | cladhaire | they could go at the bottom |
| 14:22.05 | cladhaire | just makes it less obvious that they are there |
| 14:22.12 | cladhaire | ponders |
| 14:22.27 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Sort Dictionary |
| 14:22.28 | Repo | replace is_word with recursive function |
| 14:22.42 | cladhaire | you could lay that information out horizontally below the article title |
| 14:23.12 | cladhaire | it'd push part of the page down, but you'd have a net gain on what you can see, and you'd not be below the first break |
| 14:25.13 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight: beside that i think it would be cool to be able to add pages as tabs on mainpage like http://dodgex.servegame.com/wowace.jpg :) |
| 14:25.42 | ckknight | hrm |
| 14:25.52 | [SW]Dodge | well, back to AceTimer3 Delay was in ms ? |
| 14:25.59 | cladhaire | i like that [SW]Dodge |
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| 14:26.21 | [SW]Dodge | cladhaire: :) |
| 14:26.45 | NivFreak | so my first shot at reinstalling everything via curseclient has resulted in 14 errors |
| 14:26.49 | NivFreak | fail |
| 14:26.54 | Xinhuan | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/repositories/wrath/files/ |
| 14:26.59 | [SW]Dodge | i just hope ckk likes that too :P |
| 14:27.02 | Xinhuan | oops |
| 14:27.03 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 14:27.13 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/repositories/wrath/ |
| 14:27.15 | Xinhuan | notice how the |
| 14:27.17 | NivFreak | you'd think that having to use externals would mean you wouldn't have to chase down standalone libraries |
| 14:27.27 | Xinhuan | "Files for this clone" |
| 14:27.31 | Xinhuan | link is on the next line ckknight |
| 14:27.39 | ckknight | urg |
| 14:27.41 | ckknight | I do notice. |
| 14:27.50 | Xinhuan | fixable? lol |
| 14:30.13 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9056.0-4-gc128a21 / (12 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 14:30.14 | Repo | c128a21: Skinner: Load tekKonfig skin from Cork one |
| 14:30.15 | Repo | 356daaf: Skinner: Turn off debug messages |
| 14:30.16 | Repo | 5e68c4c: Skinner: Skinned tekKonfig |
| 14:30.20 | Repo | a5839d6: Skinner: Skinned Cork & HandyNotes |
| 14:30.41 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 14:34.39 | Mech0z | my pitbull is completely broken :( |
| 14:34.50 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 06wrath * r95 : SimpleMD: forgot 2 externals |
| 14:35.02 | kenlyric | time to put it down then |
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| 14:35.42 | [SW]Dodge | Mech0z: delete libmobhealth4 from Pitbull/libs |
| 14:35.45 | ckknight | Xinhuan: fixed |
| 14:35.45 | Mech0z | I dont wanna loose pitbull :( |
| 14:37.48 | Mech0z | [SW]Dodge now it just complains about librock instead |
| 14:37.56 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 14:38.25 | Xinhuan | ckknight, can i ask what's the procedure to swap a git clone repo into the mainline on patch day? lol |
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| 14:38.42 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
| 14:38.55 | [SW]Dodge | Mech0z: using CC? try to manually delet all Pitbull directorys from your interface/addons and reinstall with CC (and then again drop lmh4 if it is back^^) |
| 14:39.16 | [SW]Dodge | Mech0z: thats how i got rid of those errors ;) |
| 14:39.23 | Pneumatus | ~seen Rophy |
| 14:39.25 | purl | rophy <n=root@196.205.207.180> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 186d 21h 58m 2s ago, saying: 'okay thanxx'. |
| 14:39.36 | Pneumatus | ~seen Xan |
| 14:39.37 | purl | xan <n=xan@d51A592D4.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 34d 16h 41m 42s ago, saying: 'solved my problem'. |
| 14:39.42 | ckknight | Xinhuan: you ask me to do it |
| 14:39.46 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 14:39.50 | Xinhuan | well another thing |
| 14:39.52 | ckknight | Xinhuan: or you just merge in |
| 14:39.53 | Xinhuan | i notice i can report myself |
| 14:39.56 | ckknight | which is the proper way |
| 14:40.05 | ckknight | easy with git |
| 14:40.14 | Xinhuan | profile email password upload avatar repository authorization report user |
| 14:40.17 | Xinhuan | :d |
| 14:40.38 | Xinhuan | did you fix the avatar upload yet, or do ppl still have to go through curseforge |
| 14:40.51 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.5.86-release * r86 : Tagging as 2.5.86-release. |
| 14:41.23 | NivFreak | wow |
| 14:41.58 | Zhinjio | G'morning, NivFreak |
| 14:42.07 | NivFreak | morning at least |
| 14:42.09 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:42.09 | Repo | Initial commit of TitleSwapper, it randomly changes your Player Title every 1 hour. No Options/Config yet. |
| 14:42.14 | NivFreak | curses at curseclient |
| 14:42.24 | Pneumatus | why do i get this sneaking suspicion SimpleUnitFrames is gonna end up abandoned :< |
| 14:42.24 | Repo | 10arl: 03Elkano 06wotlk-branch * r932 Locals/ARLLocals-enUS.lua: |
| 14:42.25 | Repo | AckisRecipeList: added enUS local strings for L["Shield"] and L["SHIELD_DESC"] |
| 14:42.45 | Xinhuan | woo ARL getting popular ;p |
| 14:43.06 | Elkano | been using it for long time by now ^^ |
| 14:43.14 | Xinhuan | gotta lol at 932 drycoded commits ;p |
| 14:43.15 | ckknight | clad|away: http://i35.tinypic.com/207q361.png |
| 14:43.15 | Pneumatus | arl is up to 932 commits o.O |
| 14:43.22 | Xinhuan | thats even more than omen ever had |
| 14:43.29 | Pneumatus | thats gotta be one of the most commited repos since the switch |
| 14:43.44 | Pneumatus | ckknight can probably find out! |
| 14:43.53 | ckknight | hrm? |
| 14:43.57 | Xinhuan | i'll like to see download counts on wowace ;p |
| 14:44.03 | ckknight | no, ARL just started high |
| 14:44.06 | ckknight | Xinhuan: eventually. |
| 14:44.08 | Pneumatus | ahh |
| 14:44.13 | Zhinjio | well, I won't say it has anything to do with me. I tended to make my commits for a full night's worth of work. |
| 14:44.16 | Elkano | we've got some over 1k, eg AtlasLoot with 1.6k |
| 14:44.39 | NivFreak | so |
| 14:44.42 | NivFreak | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/98157 |
| 14:44.47 | NivFreak | am I missing something obvious? |
| 14:44.52 | [SW]Dodge | ckknight: imo the size of the 2 boxes should be the same (make the upper box smaler ^~) |
| 14:45.15 | Mech0z | [SW]Dodge http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6981/22267002hs0.jpg |
| 14:45.19 | [SW]Dodge | lol ckk "mac screenshot" ? :D |
| 14:45.32 | ckknight | [SW]Dodge: yea |
| 14:45.47 | Pneumatus | ckknight: is there a reason why there's now a "Download from Curse" link on wowace project pages? |
| 14:45.48 | [SW]Dodge | Mech0z: did you delete libmobhealth? it doesnt seem so :P :) |
| 14:45.48 | ckknight | it's cmd-shift-3 |
| 14:45.52 | Mech0z | and after that I get a pitbull_powerbal 390 attemt to index field "?" |
| 14:46.01 | Pneumatus | i mean, if you on wowace, why would you want to download from curse |
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| 14:46.05 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9056.1 * c128a21 /: [new tag] Skinner: Load tekKonfig skin from Cork one |
| 14:46.13 | Mech0z | I deleted all my pitbull files and reinstalled using cc |
| 14:46.21 | Mech0z | did I still have to remove the mobhealth? |
| 14:46.28 | [SW]Dodge | yes |
| 14:46.29 | ckknight | Pneumatus: in preparation for patch day mostly. I expect huge traffic and if that happens, non-author logins will be disabled and non-logged-in users won't see download links |
| 14:46.37 | ckknight | we don't want wowace to go down. |
| 14:46.45 | Pneumatus | aha, so they will get pumped over to curse to get the latest file there |
| 14:46.47 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07IsItemInRange * r12 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: added some debug functions |
| 14:46.53 | ckknight | that's the idea |
| 14:47.02 | ckknight | after patch day, we may remove the link |
| 14:47.10 | ckknight | but it is for the dumb users |
| 14:47.15 | Xinhuan | it isn't a bad link |
| 14:47.19 | Pneumatus | well, dumb users are dumb after all :) |
| 14:47.25 | Xinhuan | that way, users could actually view comments on both wowace and curse |
| 14:47.27 | Xinhuan | on the same addon |
| 14:47.28 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, I think it has its place |
| 14:47.34 | Pneumatus | the comments are the same, Xinhuan |
| 14:47.38 | ckknight | wrong. |
| 14:47.40 | Xinhuan | i don't think so |
| 14:47.44 | Pneumatus | my comments are... |
| 14:47.50 | Pneumatus | except they are nested weird on wowace |
| 14:47.54 | ckknight | did you disable your curseforge comments? |
| 14:48.01 | ckknight | s/curseforge/wowace/ |
| 14:48.08 | Pneumatus | not as far as i know.. |
| 14:48.19 | Pneumatus | nope, commenting is enabled |
| 14:48.27 | Mech0z | [SW]Dodge then it makes the error librock-1.0\librock-1.0.lua:2357 attemt to index local "addon" (A string value) |
| 14:48.40 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/?authors=1 |
| 14:48.46 | NivFreak | none of my shit works after installing it with the curseclient |
| 14:48.47 | Xinhuan | lol that page needs a search |
| 14:48.47 | Pneumatus | maybe it's something to do with when it got merged from cf to wowace? |
| 14:48.58 | NivFreak | pitbull is fucked |
| 14:49.00 | [SW]Dodge | Mech0z: hmmm, dunno then :( |
| 14:49.03 | Xinhuan | good luck with anyone's name at letter M ;p |
| 14:49.07 | NivFreak | really everything is |
| 14:49.25 | Bruners | NivFreak: pitbul works here and i just installed with the curse client |
| 14:49.33 | Mech0z | bah :( dont wanna use crappy default unit frames :s |
| 14:49.43 | Pneumatus | the 'authors' page should only show users that are associated to projects really |
| 14:50.04 | Pneumatus | 0 projects = not author |
| 14:50.05 | mitch0 | btw, the pre-commit lua check is nice ;) |
| 14:51.21 | Pneumatus | i've not actually tried to commit invalid lua yet... i should do really |
| 14:51.23 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 06wrath * r96 SimpleMD.lua: SimpleMD: find/replace a renamed variable |
| 14:51.29 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r3 Core.lua: avoid using the same title twice in a row |
| 14:51.56 | NivFreak | Bruners: it works fine without any other addons, sure |
| 14:52.14 | NivFreak | wtb no-externals |
| 14:52.35 | Pneumatus | Mech0z: i like the 'crappy default unit frames' :< |
| 14:52.41 | ckknight | Pneumatus: I agree, but I can't do that with the current ORM without denormalization, and Kaelten won't let me do that |
| 14:53.02 | Pneumatus | i just like them to have a little extra info on them which SimpleUnitFrames provides :> |
| 14:53.04 | Mech0z | Pneumatus I want my unit frames in the middle around my toon |
| 14:53.46 | Pneumatus | ckknight: you query the number of projects each user is associated with for the output, surely you could just build that into the select filter? |
| 14:54.01 | ckknight | Pneumatus: not without the query taking 30 seconds |
| 14:54.13 | ckknight | yea, it's pretty bullshit |
| 14:54.15 | Pneumatus | ahh |
| 14:54.29 | Pneumatus | so you query x number of users, then for each one, check how many projects they have |
| 14:54.36 | Pneumatus | (for the display) |
| 14:55.01 | mitch0 | update the numProjects field daily... |
| 14:55.16 | Pneumatus | yeh, youd have to denormalise numProjects into the user table |
| 14:55.50 | Xinhuan | add a checkbox not to show users with 0 projects imo ;p |
| 14:55.57 | Xinhuan | anyway, off to sleep a couple |
| 14:55.59 | Pneumatus | same issue tho Xinhuan |
| 14:56.26 | Pneumatus | im guessing with the current database structure, the page is set to query the number of projects for just the 50 users displayed at a time |
| 14:56.29 | netcurse | good news for everyone here |
| 14:56.30 | mitch0 | how many "active" developers are there btw? 50? |
| 14:56.38 | netcurse | premium service will start the 27 october. |
| 14:56.48 | netcurse | so enjoy the one click updating for 3.0 ;) |
| 14:56.50 | ckknight | mitch0: yea, that's what I suggested, Kaelten refused |
| 14:57.08 | mitch0 | ckk: be more persuasive :) |
| 14:57.13 | Pneumatus | ckknight: what use is a non-searchable 1122 page listing of users? |
| 14:57.22 | Pneumatus | it might as well not be there |
| 14:57.25 | ckknight | I don't know |
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| 14:57.42 | Shane|Work | antec has an open-air PC case out now: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2332331,00.asp |
| 14:57.45 | ckknight | I might just add it and then we can normalize it after-the-fact |
| 14:57.46 | mitch0 | ckk: or just implement the darn thing, maybe Kaelten won't notice :) |
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| 14:57.51 | ckknight | probably |
| 14:57.56 | ckknight | he tends not to notice things |
| 14:58.15 | Pneumatus | is it just showing wowace/cf users, just wowace users, or wowace/cf/curse users? |
| 14:58.20 | mitch0 | although he'll be surprised by the user praise about the new Authors page :) |
| 14:58.31 | Pneumatus | im guessing the latter |
| 14:59.17 | Pneumatus | the listing fails pretty hard anyway, take a look at _Elwe_, the list shows 1 project, but you click them and nada :) |
| 14:59.25 | ckknight | ick |
| 14:59.41 | Repo | 10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam 042.0Alpha * r53 : DHUD2: |
| 14:59.42 | Repo | - Added AceGui-3.0 back and LibDogTag to the externals list. |
| 15:00.24 | mitch0 | I hope I'll get some time testing my new stuff... laterz |
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| 15:00.26 | mitch0 | & |
| 15:01.00 | Pneumatus | even on the first page (which is all i can be bothered to check) only 4 of the authors that are supposed to have a certain number of projects have that many |
| 15:01.20 | Pneumatus | out of 10 which have >0 projects |
| 15:01.55 | Nimbal | *wipes sweat from his forehead* The next addon I write will be written for profile changing from the ground up. Retrofitting it in is torture. |
| 15:03.17 | Elkano | WTF? http://www.finefueling.com/ |
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| 15:03.59 | Repo | 10expeller: 03dekimsey * r10 / (4 files in 1 directory): Expeller: |
| 15:03.59 | Repo | - Added support for Enchanting. |
| 15:04.00 | Repo | - Will now attempt to find boe greens to de. |
| 15:04.01 | Repo | - Currently bugged on live, generates an action blocked error. This is possibly due to a bug in wow, to be fixed in patch 3.0, we'll see. It does seem to work correctly on the PTRs. |
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| 15:05.55 | Repo | 10expeller: 03dekimsey 04v1.3-beta * r11 : Tagging as v1.3-beta. |
| 15:05.56 | Repo | Known issue: |
| 15:05.56 | Repo | - Enchanting causes an action blocked message on its first invocation. If ignored, mod works correctly for the rest of the session. This is supposedly a bug and may be fixed in wow 3.0 |
| 15:05.57 | sb | mh |
| 15:06.02 | sb | whats http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert for US realms? |
| 15:06.17 | durcyn | ~wowalert |
| 15:06.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 15:06.24 | sb | ty |
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| 15:08.28 | Pneumatus | 12 hours, thats very optomistic |
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| 15:10.03 | KriLL3 | do we know yet if the US gets the patch tomorrow? |
| 15:10.15 | Pneumatus | *sigh* |
| 15:10.23 | Pneumatus | read up like 3 lines, and click the link |
| 15:10.48 | KriLL3 | "We will be performing extended maintenance for all realms on Tuesday, October 14." no the same as "Omg patch naow!" |
| 15:11.05 | Bruners | KriLL3: you can also download the patch now |
| 15:11.16 | Bruners | KriLL3: that pretty much tels you that there will be a patch |
| 15:11.27 | KriLL3 | Bruners: the bg downloader has been downloading it in bits for quite a while |
| 15:11.35 | Pneumatus | combined with the 12 hour maintainance window |
| 15:11.56 | KriLL3 | ah, true |
| 15:11.58 | Bruners | KriLL3: but there has not been extended maintenance for a while has it? |
| 15:12.46 | Pneumatus | dunno about US, but EU hasnt had much more than rolling restarts for weeks |
| 15:12.58 | KriLL3 | no idea about the US, EU servers periodically get extended maintenance, seems like a block of them each Wednesday |
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| 15:13.39 | Bruners | KriLL3: from 5 to 11 yes thats not extended |
| 15:13.40 | ckknight | waves at Pneumatus and mitch0 |
| 15:13.44 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: I think they rotate it so 10~ rolling restarts are followed with an actual downtime or something like that |
| 15:13.57 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/ |
| 15:14.07 | ckknight | the numbers update every 15 minutes |
| 15:14.14 | Pneumatus | good job |
| 15:14.22 | Pneumatus | and the counts actually look accurate :) |
| 15:14.34 | Pneumatus | except Ackis |
| 15:14.44 | Pneumatus | 12 on the count page, 5 when you click through |
| 15:14.50 | ckknight | that's odd |
| 15:14.56 | ckknight | wonder what Ackis' deal is |
| 15:15.06 | sb | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/Ackis/projects/ - 12 |
| 15:15.10 | Pneumatus | Adirelle shows 11 on the count |
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| 15:15.11 | sb | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/Ackis/ - 5 |
| 15:15.15 | Pneumatus | 5 when you click through |
| 15:15.25 | Pneumatus | oh wait |
| 15:15.36 | KriLL3 | omg cheater! :< |
| 15:15.37 | Pneumatus | only 5 shown on the recent |
| 15:15.41 | ckknight | oh, check http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/Ackis/projects/ |
| 15:15.43 | Pneumatus | found the others :) |
| 15:15.54 | Repo | 10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu * r37 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fubar_DominosFu: |
| 15:15.55 | Repo | - Bump TOC to 30000 |
| 15:15.55 | Repo | - Change call to the Dominos options, the old one was no longer working |
| 15:16.18 | Pneumatus | that certainly looks a bit more useful than the previous millions of users, ckknight :) |
| 15:16.22 | ckknight | yea |
| 15:16.27 | ckknight | should I put profile picture in? |
| 15:16.42 | Pneumatus | like a tiny thumbnail next to their name? |
| 15:16.55 | ckknight | yea |
| 15:17.07 | Pneumatus | perhaps, not sure if it would be big enough to look like anything |
| 15:17.16 | ckknight | 48x48 |
| 15:17.18 | KriLL3 | It's called an avatar for future reference. |
| 15:17.19 | Pneumatus | a column for 'last project update' or something might be handy |
| 15:17.22 | ckknight | so things would be more spread out |
| 15:17.38 | ckknight | Pneumatus: now that's something even harder :-P |
| 15:17.46 | Pneumatus | last login then? |
| 15:17.47 | ckknight | but useful, still |
| 15:18.22 | Repo | 10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu * r38 FuBar_DominosFu.toc: Fubar_DominosFu: |
| 15:18.23 | Repo | - Change to version 1.1 |
| 15:18.24 | Repo | - Added new Dominos icon (need the latest version of WotLK Dominos for it to work |
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| 15:19.16 | Repo | 10fu-bar_dominos-fu: 03LaoTseu 04v1.1-WotLK * r39 : Fubar_DominosFu: |
| 15:19.16 | Repo | - New beta release for WotLK. Fixed issues with v1.0 |
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| 15:20.42 | KriLL3 | why does the name and icon of fubar plugins not correspond with their dropdown? it's as if they're shifted one # up/down |
| 15:21.52 | Pneumatus | ckknight: another thing that i keep meaning to mention, it might be nice if you could define a certain 'class' to an author |
| 15:21.54 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r6 LibSpell.lua: New more efficient is_word function |
| 15:21.55 | Repo | Praise be to Pazza |
| 15:22.02 | ckknight | Pneumatus: how do you mean? |
| 15:22.19 | Pneumatus | ok, the project owner is the "Project Lead" and additional authors are "Contributors" right? |
| 15:22.54 | Pneumatus | it might be nice if you could create author sets, so you could label authors in your team as "Translator" or "Original Author" etc etc |
| 15:23.33 | Bruners | ckknight: the search on curse.com, is it using a different db then then addon list? |
| 15:23.39 | Pneumatus | or rather than having classes defined (which could potentially lead to ACLs or something), just being able to specify a project role in a text field |
| 15:23.43 | ckknight | it might be, Bruners |
| 15:23.54 | ckknight | Pneumatus: oh, there's already a plan for that |
| 15:24.05 | KriLL3 | "head greasemonkey" |
| 15:24.07 | ckknight | we'll implement it with a proper ACL system |
| 15:24.33 | Pneumatus | ah, well in that case i'd guess the role you assigned with an ACL could be shown :) |
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| 15:25.05 | Bruners | ckknight: it cant find the latest addons atleast |
| 15:25.20 | thul | http://prezwoodz.smugmug.com/photos/382658171_zwWvK-XL.jpg <- climbing girls are almost as big a turnon as.. brazilian jiu jitsu girls :-D |
| 15:26.22 | Groktar | flings a drunken bar skank at ckknight |
| 15:26.44 | ckknight | hehe, theduke |
| 15:26.46 | ckknight | err |
| 15:26.47 | ckknight | thul: |
| 15:26.48 | Facktotum | thul: what is the turnon on that picture? |
| 15:26.56 | thul | the climbing girl? |
| 15:27.12 | Facktotum | thats a turnon to you? |
| 15:27.29 | ckknight | strong, independent women are more likely to care for my young better |
| 15:27.32 | ckknight | and thus, more attractive |
| 15:27.46 | ckknight | to a degree |
| 15:28.10 | thul | strong, independent, sporty, adventourous :-D |
| 15:28.13 | thul | what's not to like |
| 15:28.21 | Groktar | are you sure? what if they decide they want to pursue their career and leave you home alone with the spawn? |
| 15:28.28 | Facktotum | i tend to miss the turnon point but everyone to his own |
| 15:28.44 | ckknight | Groktar: that's what the leash is for |
| 15:28.45 | thul | I do not want spawn, I want a girl that pursues her own career, is independent and have funs |
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| 15:29.44 | Facktotum | how old are you thul? |
| 15:29.54 | thul | me? 25 |
| 15:29.59 | thul | http://morffed.com/climb/roadtrip08/trip058.jpg <- that is also just so.. hot! |
| 15:30.17 | ckknight | hehe |
| 15:30.19 | ckknight | rock climbing is fun |
| 15:30.21 | Facktotum | you still have a lot to learn my friend |
| 15:30.23 | thul | yeah :-D |
| 15:30.28 | thul | I'm totally not built for rock climbing though |
| 15:30.40 | Facktotum | the girl is cute yeah but her climbing doesn't turn me on |
| 15:30.51 | thul | well, to each to his own etc. |
| 15:31.06 | ckknight | also, redheads ftw |
| 15:31.17 | Facktotum | that i agree |
| 15:31.21 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r4 / (4 files in 1 directory): added some minimalistic settings :) |
| 15:31.26 | thul | redheds rock. |
| 15:31.39 | EvilJohn- | rock fetish, I would have that would have been ckknight's thing... |
| 15:31.50 | ckknight | I don't have a rock fetish... |
| 15:31.51 | Sirow | loooooooooooooooool |
| 15:31.55 | thul | hahahaha |
| 15:32.00 | Sirow | good one |
| 15:32.04 | EvilJohn- | heh |
| 15:32.09 | Megalon | thul: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk5TQFw-1E8 clucking? :P |
| 15:32.09 | Facktotum | you actually do ckk |
| 15:32.12 | EvilJohn- | just poking a litlte fun |
| 15:32.18 | ckknight | I mean, I've seen some pretty sexy marble in my day |
| 15:32.21 | ckknight | but just rocks? |
| 15:32.22 | ckknight | pssh |
| 15:32.31 | EvilJohn- | +1 for the redhead thing, though |
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| 15:32.44 | thul | hahahaha Megalon :-P |
| 15:32.49 | Facktotum | any alternative to stopthespam? |
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| 15:33.09 | Repo | 10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam 042.0Alpha * r54 / (8 files in 2 directories): DHUD2: |
| 15:33.09 | Repo | -Added LibDebugLog and fixed LibDogTag svn route |
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| 15:35.02 | Repo | -Added LibDebugLog and fixed LibDogTag svn route |
| 15:38.52 | Facktotum | mobhealth is still usable in 3.0.2? no right? |
| 15:39.14 | [SW]Dodge | Facktotum: it is not longer needed |
| 15:39.55 | Sirow | erm, does UnitPower("player"[ , type]) return values between 0 and 100 for rage and energie? |
| 15:40.36 | [SW]Dodge | it should |
| 15:40.42 | [SW]Dodge | well energy can be 0-110 |
| 15:41.02 | Pneumatus | also returns runic power, iirc |
| 15:42.30 | Sirow | ah ok, didn't know that. |
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| 15:52.39 | Pneumatus | do gmail still just keep increasing your mailbox ad infinitum, or is there a limit? |
| 15:53.03 | *** join/#wowace _Parnic (i=xbins@staff.xbins.org) |
| 15:53.58 | Bruners | Pneumatus: You are currently using 44 MB (0%) of your 7230 MB |
| 15:54.06 | Pneumatus | You are currently using 5409 MB (74%) of your 7231 MB. |
| 15:54.23 | Bruners | Pneumatus: why do you have 1MB more then me! |
| 15:54.34 | Pneumatus | wonder if thats a hard cap |
| 15:54.43 | Bruners | Pneumatus: i think you can buy more |
| 15:54.44 | stew_a | i think if you hit the cap they make you buy more storage |
| 15:55.00 | Bruners | Pneumatus: how many mails is that really? |
| 15:55.38 | Pneumatus | 548 |
| 15:55.49 | Bruners | i just purchased warhammer |
| 15:55.51 | Bruners | it better be good |
| 15:56.20 | Bruners | Pneumatus: and how do you make 548 mail use that ammount of space? |
| 15:56.44 | Fasti | gmail mailbox size is constantly growing |
| 15:56.49 | Pneumatus | each mail is a nighly backup of a CVS server, of about 10mb each |
| 15:57.08 | Pneumatus | dating back to april 07 |
| 15:57.38 | Fasti | You are currently using 5 MB (0%) of your 7231 MB. |
| 15:58.21 | stew_a | You are currently using 212MB (2%) of your 7231MB. |
| 15:58.24 | Bruners | i love google notebook |
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| 15:59.59 | Saroz | nevcairiel, does sRaidFrames work as provided by curse client? |
| 16:01.19 | sb | yep |
| 16:01.36 | Saroz | wut |
| 16:01.37 | Saroz | miracle |
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| 16:01.56 | Saroz | CC updated, and now I'm down to 4 login errors |
| 16:02.48 | Bruners | all my addons work when installed with curse client |
| 16:02.58 | Saroz | Heatsink dont :X |
| 16:03.29 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 16:03.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 16:03.31 | Bruners | but the curseclient wont remove folders when it deletes an addon |
| 16:03.42 | Saroz | I know, doing all that now |
| 16:03.50 | Saroz | had it from SVN before, so TONS of garbage |
| 16:04.06 | [SW]Dodge | CC will delete folders, but oly if cc created them |
| 16:04.16 | Saroz | some BigWigs mods isnt recognised |
| 16:04.19 | Bruners | [SW]Dodge: its not doing that here |
| 16:04.21 | Saroz | _AQ40 etc. |
| 16:04.55 | [SW]Dodge | hm, which version do you have? |
| 16:05.01 | Saroz | latest :p |
| 16:05.01 | Facktotum | does are LOD modules for bigwigs |
| 16:05.07 | Saroz | how do I get those? |
| 16:05.08 | Facktotum | they will not load unless you are in aq40 |
| 16:05.18 | Saroz | yes but they dont come up in the list |
| 16:05.19 | Facktotum | or whatever the instance |
| 16:05.28 | Saroz | in CC |
| 16:05.41 | Facktotum | thats because they are unpacked when you unzip the addon |
| 16:05.59 | Facktotum | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14396 |
| 16:06.06 | Facktotum | same argument here |
| 16:06.19 | Bruners | is there an ace3 based eepanels like addon ? |
| 16:06.33 | Stanzilla | kgpanels |
| 16:08.00 | Repo | 10error-monster: 037destiny * r77 ErrorMonster-koKR.lua: ErrorMonster: koKR Update |
| 16:10.18 | Saroz | wish there was a "nuke the fucking folder and reinstall the mod" function in CC |
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| 16:10.30 | sb | meh, talented broken |
| 16:10.35 | sb | nice "release" version :/ |
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| 16:10.55 | sylvanaar | its missing talented_data |
| 16:11.06 | sb | Talented-1.9\ui\base.lua:12: attempt to call method 'SetNormalFontObject' (a nil value) |
| 16:11.13 | sb | seems to be some other problem here |
| 16:11.18 | sylvanaar | are you on live |
| 16:11.24 | sb | yup |
| 16:11.24 | sylvanaar | its 3.0 only |
| 16:11.29 | sb | gnnl |
| 16:11.31 | sb | :) |
| 16:11.47 | sb | should be beta version then - not release |
| 16:11.50 | sylvanaar | it works great on 3.0, im so glad to have it back |
| 16:11.56 | Kazie | When patch 3.0 comes, we will need to use the WoTLK beta addons right? |
| 16:11.57 | sylvanaar | its a release for 3.0 |
| 16:12.17 | sb | CC cant see the difference :p |
| 16:12.22 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 16:12.38 | sylvanaar | but if you look at the addon's page, it says version 3 |
| 16:12.42 | Saroz | which Prat should I get? |
| 16:12.46 | Fisker- | How will CC handle europeans? |
| 16:12.46 | sylvanaar | 3.0 |
| 16:12.50 | Saroz | kk |
| 16:13.13 | Fisker- | Because if it doesn't figure "O wait EU haven't updated yet" then we'll just get raped by 3.0 addons for 2.4.3 |
| 16:13.15 | sb | meh, i cant switch to older versions with CC |
| 16:13.17 | sb | this sucks :) |
| 16:13.23 | Fisker- | disables auto-update |
| 16:13.36 | KriLL3 | Fisker-: just don't update until you got the patch |
| 16:13.46 | Fisker- | Of course |
| 16:13.50 | Arrowmaster | EU people always forget they shouldnt update addons after US patch before they get it |
| 16:13.53 | Fisker- | Just kinda defeats the purpose of auto-updating :P |
| 16:14.13 | sb | Arrowmaster: +2 days before :p |
| 16:14.16 | sylvanaar | i was working on solving the EU problem in WAU right before i quit developing it |
| 16:14.53 | Bruners | cant the client just check what client version you are running and update addons after that? |
| 16:14.54 | *** join/#wowace Pneumatus_ (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 16:15.03 | sylvanaar | no |
| 16:15.04 | Bruners | as there already is a client version on curse |
| 16:15.08 | Fisker- | Well for example it could just say that "Warning if you update the addons you may get incompatible versions until europe patches" |
| 16:15.36 | Fisker- | But of course if it would just figure it out on it's own with no user interaction then that would be better :P |
| 16:15.37 | Saroz | sylvanaar, on curse there is "Prat" and "Prat 2.0" |
| 16:15.46 | Bruners | or simply have an option to choose what version of the game you are using |
| 16:15.48 | sylvanaar | it could check the client version from blizzard, and then x-ref that to a toc version |
| 16:16.01 | sylvanaar | thats what WAU did. |
| 16:16.02 | Fisker- | It could just as well check it from the client |
| 16:16.13 | Funkeh` | ~seem Kaelten |
| 16:16.17 | Funkeh` | ~seen Kaelten |
| 16:16.20 | purl | kaelten <n=kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 18h 9m 42s ago, saying: 'in a loop'. |
| 16:16.25 | Fisker- | ~kiss Funkeh` |
| 16:16.26 | purl | ACTION forces Funkeh` to give Raegx a big kiss on the ear |
| 16:16.30 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` can i update BigWigs_Naxxaramas |
| 16:16.47 | Fisker- | shouldn't it be killed? |
| 16:16.52 | sylvanaar | why |
| 16:16.54 | Saroz | sylvanaar, "Prat" or "Prat 2.0"? |
| 16:16.54 | Funkeh` | is the patch tomotorow |
| 16:16.59 | Funkeh` | tomorow |
| 16:17.07 | Saroz | yah, or wed. in EU |
| 16:17.08 | sylvanaar | fucking naxx is the first instance in wotlk |
| 16:17.09 | Fisker- | The new Naxxramas should be in the BigWigs package as default when WotLK hits |
| 16:17.15 | sylvanaar | oh yeah |
| 16:17.16 | Funkeh` | then yes you can |
| 16:17.30 | sylvanaar | there arent many changes needed |
| 16:17.38 | Funkeh` | cool |
| 16:17.50 | sylvanaar | some warnings should be removed, i already fixed thaddius' enrage |
| 16:17.54 | Saroz | sylvanaar, "Prat" or "Prat 2.0"? :X |
| 16:17.56 | Fisker- | In b4 "very original blizzard" |
| 16:18.00 | sylvanaar | Prat 3.0 |
| 16:18.08 | Funkeh` | im still trying to figure out why curse shows for e.g. beta files when you mark a project as release only |
| 16:18.15 | Fisker- | I totally /facepalmed at the users at some point calling Blizzard lazy for making Naxxramas again |
| 16:18.19 | Saroz | sylvanaar, no such thing on curse |
| 16:18.26 | Fisker- | Totally failing to realize that Naxxramas was just put in again due to user request |
| 16:18.26 | sylvanaar | Saroz, set CC to beta |
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| 16:18.39 | EthanCentaurai | saroz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/prat-3-0/ |
| 16:18.47 | Bruners | sylvanaar: setting it to beta also broke a number of addons :P |
| 16:18.56 | Saroz | ahhhh there is a GLOBAL setting |
| 16:19.04 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 16:19.09 | Saroz | duuuh :) |
| 16:19.26 | Pneumatus_ | is the curse client clever enough to pull the latest release if its newer than the latest beta? |
| 16:19.28 | sylvanaar | Fisker- put in? to what |
| 16:19.32 | Fisker- | yeah Pneumatus |
| 16:19.38 | sylvanaar | Fisker- back into bigwigs? |
| 16:19.39 | Fisker- | There's a threshold though |
| 16:19.44 | Fisker- | Yep sylvanaar |
| 16:20.00 | Funkeh` | i'll put my penis back into your mum |
| 16:20.03 | Funkeh` | or something |
| 16:20.15 | Saroz | Funkeh`, sup with bigwigs on curse? |
| 16:20.16 | Fisker- | It was never in anyways |
| 16:20.17 | sylvanaar | Funkeh` BigWigs needs a global "Heroic" flag |
| 16:20.19 | Fisker- | too tight for you |
| 16:20.33 | Funkeh` | a.k.a too big for her? |
| 16:20.34 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: wheres my BigWigs3 repo! |
| 16:20.47 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, Where's my motivation to code and play wow? |
| 16:20.52 | Fisker- | indeed! |
| 16:20.53 | sylvanaar | since all raid instances come as Normal and Heroic |
| 16:20.57 | DickCheney | takes Arrowmaster hunting |
| 16:21.18 | [SW]Dodge | AceConfigDialog-3.0 fails due to minimum widht :( |
| 16:21.18 | sylvanaar | btw, bigwigs works just fine on beta |
| 16:21.19 | Bruners | is there a list somewhere with all addons that use ace3? |
| 16:21.21 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: i know it exists, i think it was ammo that showed me a sample of a bossmod for it before |
| 16:22.42 | Funkeh` | How can I simply remove all beta files from a project on curse short of deleting them all :/, I've selected pack releases only |
| 16:23.31 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: ask somebody else to do it for you? other than that well yeah gota do it manually |
| 16:23.33 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&postId=109708978919&sid=1#157 |
| 16:23.50 | Arrowmaster | fucking wowmatrix |
| 16:24.15 | Pneumatus_ | didnt wowmatrix diaf already? |
| 16:25.30 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 16:26.37 | *** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@v254-167.vps.tuwien.ac.at) |
| 16:26.39 | Arrowmaster | yes i will find any and everything wrong about it that i can, even if they are trying to save face and fix minor things |
| 16:27.07 | Pneumatus | curse need to take them to court for bandwidth theft tbh |
| 16:27.19 | Arrowmaster | i think they plan to if they have to |
| 16:28.52 | Bruners | havent they updated their shit with author info now? |
| 16:29.01 | Arrowmaster | check the link i posted? |
| 16:29.35 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10871018107&sid=1&pageNo=2#30 lol |
| 16:29.54 | Pneumatus | interestingly, they are listing a "release" file over an alpha, but linking to the new wowace project pages |
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| 16:30.14 | Arrowmaster | what about beta files? |
| 16:30.18 | Arrowmaster | are they listing those? |
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| 16:30.30 | Pneumatus | infact, for cf hosted projects the link is to curse.com |
| 16:30.39 | Pneumatus | but for wowace hosted projects the link is to wowace |
| 16:31.17 | KriLL3 | does it link directly to the download? |
| 16:31.24 | KriLL3 | aka they just leech? |
| 16:31.35 | Arrowmaster | always |
| 16:31.37 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r190 / (3 files in 2 directories): small update to version tracking :) |
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| 16:31.50 | Pneumatus | well there wouldnt be any point in a downloader that didnt download :P |
| 16:31.54 | KriLL3 | can't you just block people coming from the site? |
| 16:32.11 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: the download on other sites I meant ofc |
| 16:32.12 | Bruners | arent they doing just the same as JWU and WUU ? |
| 16:32.18 | FtH|Daemona | talking about wowmatrix? |
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| 16:32.39 | Bruners | but also have advertisement and making money |
| 16:32.41 | Pneumatus | the latest version, when you select an addon has a link to the wowace/curse/wowi project page |
| 16:32.42 | Xinhuan | well, i gotta give it to them, they must have spent 5 hours updating and finding the project pages links |
| 16:32.56 | Xinhuan | and adding credits |
| 16:32.57 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:32.58 | Repo | added configuration (you can open it with /ts or /titleswapper) |
| 16:32.58 | Arrowmaster | wowmatrix uses libcurl with a generic useragent and either a blank or forged referrer |
| 16:33.23 | Pneumatus | yeh, you couldn't block wowmatrix users sensibly |
| 16:33.33 | Arrowmaster | well you could |
| 16:34.00 | Arrowmaster | i know of a site that when you load the page it creates links that are only valid for a limited amount of time |
| 16:34.01 | Pneumatus | well, you could restrict deep-linking entirely, but they could still forge referrers |
| 16:34.10 | Pneumatus | or have time limited links, or capchas |
| 16:34.30 | Arrowmaster | but wowmatrix would likely just have the client start doing the scrapping i bet in that situation |
| 16:34.33 | Bruners | any of you play warhammer? |
| 16:34.47 | KriLL3 | Bruners: I don't play with dolls |
| 16:34.48 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: i'd expect they would, yeh |
| 16:34.48 | Shane|Work | Bruners: i have an acct |
| 16:35.13 | Bruners | KriLL3: games are for kids, i know that |
| 16:35.32 | Bruners | Shane|Work: what is the cool class to be ? i have done 0 research on it :P |
| 16:36.06 | KriLL3 | anyone spotted the dtv blizzcon footage online yet btw? |
| 16:36.31 | Shane|Work | Bruners: that's a harder choice than it is on WoW. they're all fairly different. most of them fit an archetype represented in wow, but not all. |
| 16:36.46 | KriLL3 | Bruners: fyk warhammer started out as miniatures you recreated mock battles with |
| 16:36.51 | KriLL3 | thus, dolls. |
| 16:37.12 | ulic | I hate DirecTV DVR's, I can't wait until they get TiVo back. I rebooted my DVR on Sunday morning and poof Day 2 of blizzcon was now deleted. |
| 16:37.14 | Shane|Work | KriLL3: painstakingly hand-painted dolls |
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| 16:37.23 | KriLL3 | Shane|Work: what archetype does druids fit? =P |
| 16:37.24 | ulic | glad I got that off my chest, back to work. |
| 16:37.47 | Fasti | how long until US has it's downtime? |
| 16:37.55 | Fasti | if there's a major patch |
| 16:38.01 | KriLL3 | Fasti: usual time it goes down? |
| 16:38.05 | Shane|Work | KriLL3: closest seems to be Chaos Marauder, but there's no good match really. they shapeshift their arms into a club/claw/sword |
| 16:38.06 | KriLL3 | 3:00? |
| 16:38.09 | Fasti | I'm from EU :P |
| 16:38.21 | KriLL3 | me2 |
| 16:38.21 | Shane|Work | Fasti: 2pm PDT i believe was what I read |
| 16:38.59 | KriLL3 | Fasti: http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert |
| 16:39.12 | ribbert | the files list for CC is a bit confusing.. if i'm switching from WAU and basically starting from scratch do I want the "Updater for Old Clients" the "Update", the "Updater"? |
| 16:39.15 | Shane|Work | sorry, am, right |
| 16:39.17 | Xinhuan | hmm, my NEC monitor is lower temporature than my samsung one |
| 16:39.21 | Bruners | anyone got a quick link to changelog ? |
| 16:39.22 | Xinhuan | on the surface |
| 16:39.39 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: because the samsung is sexxy hot |
| 16:39.39 | Shane|Work | Bruners: as in, the massive changelog for 3.0? |
| 16:39.40 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r6 Core.lua: 0.1b |
| 16:39.41 | Repo | Pushed into Blizzard Addon Config |
| 16:39.45 | Bruners | Shane|Work: yes |
| 16:40.02 | Shane|Work | Bruners: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 16:40.33 | Tornhoof | nevcairiel ping |
| 16:41.13 | KriLL3 | Fasti: some quick mental work and it's 7:00 tomorrow |
| 16:41.23 | KriLL3 | or... |
| 16:41.28 | KriLL3 | no wait |
| 16:41.28 | Shane|Work | so the dual-spec system announced at blizzcon isn't even on a cooldown, eh? |
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| 16:41.39 | Fasti | ohwell, atleast that alert thing says it's going to be the patch :) |
| 16:41.41 | KriLL3 | 9:00 |
| 16:41.48 | Bruners | The all new Achievement System has been implemented and the Achievement panel can be accessed via the interface. While many achievements are not retroactive, we have done our best to credit as many as possible. Gamemasters will not be able to grant achievements for past accomplishements. |
| 16:41.53 | Bruners | this means what really? |
| 16:41.59 | KriLL3 | 9:00 CEST 2008-10-14 |
| 16:42.07 | Shane|Work | Fasti: where do you read anything about a patch? i just see "Extended downtime". |
| 16:42.16 | Fasti | extended part :P |
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| 16:42.20 | KriLL3 | Bruners: pester a GM and get an achievement |
| 16:42.25 | Shane|Work | Bruners: are you familiar with Xbox 360 achievements? same concept. |
| 16:42.46 | KriLL3 | Shane|Work: I bet they need 12h to restart the servers as usual, yep yep. |
| 16:42.57 | Bruners | can i use achievments for anything? |
| 16:43.04 | Bruners | other then bragging |
| 16:43.05 | Shane|Work | KriLL3: just playing devil's advocate, i've figured tmr was 3.0 for a few weeks. |
| 16:43.06 | KriLL3 | e-peen points |
| 16:43.17 | [SW]Dodge | wasnt there a commit regex to let an addon be packed as Beta? |
| 16:43.23 | Shane|Work | Bruners: nothing substantial, just cosmetic items |
| 16:43.27 | ribbert | for a fresh install of CC what is the correct install path? all this update updater for old clients beta fix etc etc on the file list is very confusing |
| 16:43.27 | Arrowmaster | [SW]Dodge: yes, tag it |
| 16:43.49 | ribbert | is there a single file to download for a fresh install of the latest beta? |
| 16:43.53 | [SW]Dodge | oh okay, i thought tags are only release ^^ |
| 16:43.54 | Shane|Work | [SW]Dodge: put letters after your versioning numbers and it will be a beta/alpha |
| 16:43.59 | EthanCentaurai | ribbert: http://mediabeta.curse.com/CurseClient/CurseSetup-2.0.0.13.exe |
| 16:44.06 | Shane|Work | ribbert: definitely not. patch sequence like the rest of us =( |
| 16:44.08 | Arrowmaster | [SW]Dodge: no, only tags that match the regex are release, all other tags are beta |
| 16:44.16 | ribbert | EthanCentaurai: Thanks! |
| 16:44.39 | [SW]Dodge | EthanCentaurai: http://mediabeta.curse.com/CurseClient/CurseSetup-2.0.0.14.exe <- latest test build |
| 16:44.51 | Shane|Work | ribbert: ignore me, i thought you meant Wrath beta =P |
| 16:44.58 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox 040.1b * r7 : Tagging as 0.1b. |
| 16:45.29 | [SW]Dodge | yay |
| 16:45.46 | Shane|Work | anyone handy with ubuntu on? i'm converting my server box to run off of CompactFlash, I want it to boot the root partition into a ramdisk |
| 16:45.47 | Bruners | the spellpower change, if i had a healer with 2k + healing how much healing will that be in spellpower? |
| 16:46.09 | KriLL3 | Bruners: none? |
| 16:46.17 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.wowace.com/comments/7196-wowgolds987-world-of-warcraft-game-from-the-start-at/ and so the gold spam begins... :( |
| 16:46.21 | KriLL3 | It's spellpower, not healing in spellpower |
| 16:46.41 | Shane|Work | KriLL3: only items that affected both are converted to spellpower? |
| 16:46.45 | Shane|Work | dmg/heals? |
| 16:46.50 | sylvanaar | something makes me think .7 |
| 16:47.03 | KriLL3 | ace doesn't screen out spammers? :( |
| 16:47.13 | [dRaCo] | I heard it's divide by 1.88 |
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| 16:47.43 | KriLL3 | Shane|Work: he phrased it ass backwards, yes spellpower and healing is unified now, I don't know how since I'm not a healer |
| 16:47.44 | Shane|Work | the numbers you see on the character screen are supposedly lower but the overall effect is supposed to be the same, they adjusted coefficients in the spells, or so i've read. |
| 16:47.47 | sylvanaar | that'd be .6 |
| 16:47.49 | sylvanaar | .5 |
| 16:47.54 | DickCheney | takes KriLL3 hunting |
| 16:48.10 | sylvanaar | .53 |
| 16:48.11 | KriLL3 | I'm immune to bullets in bearform! rawr! |
| 16:48.46 | KriLL3 | heh that comment even tried to use html links |
| 16:49.15 | KriLL3 | ace should add measures to screen out spam |
| 16:49.41 | KriLL3 | captcha, reverse captcha, keywords etc |
| 16:49.50 | KriLL3 | reverse captcha is my fav |
| 16:49.54 | Bruners | Brambles (Balance): Now increases the damage done by your Treants, and also damage caused from your Treants and Barkskin has a 5/10/15% chance to Daze the target for 3 sec. |
| 16:50.11 | KriLL3 | barkskin doesn't cause dmg... |
| 16:50.24 | Bruners | 15%*million treants |
| 16:50.29 | KriLL3 | Bruners: yay moar RNG |
| 16:50.35 | Bruners | 100% chance to get daced |
| 16:50.47 | [SW]Dodge | lf someone to approve http://www.wowace.com/projects/titleswapper/ :D |
| 16:51.01 | Xinhuan | what does it do Dodge? |
| 16:51.15 | fewyn | interesting |
| 16:51.18 | Xinhuan | Does it to the same as the mod called Entitled? |
| 16:51.19 | fewyn | i can view that project |
| 16:51.27 | Xinhuan | do* |
| 16:51.31 | fewyn | even know it's waiting for approval |
| 16:51.39 | [SW]Dodge | it changes your title (eg Master Sergant or Hand of A'dal) in a time interval you can set :) |
| 16:51.58 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: dont know, what does entitled? |
| 16:52.01 | fewyn | you typoed the description btw [SW]Dodge |
| 16:52.12 | fewyn | "often the Titel should " |
| 16:52.16 | Bruners | Arcane Shot: No longer dispels magic effects. FINALLY |
| 16:52.23 | KriLL3 | [SW]Dodge: 404 Page Not Found |
| 16:52.23 | fewyn | whaaat |
| 16:52.26 | fewyn | seriously Bruners? |
| 16:52.26 | Xinhuan | nvm DOdge: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8952-Entitled.html#info |
| 16:52.30 | fewyn | where? |
| 16:52.47 | Bruners | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 16:52.52 | Xinhuan | hehe ;p |
| 16:52.57 | [SW]Dodge | fewyn: : typo fixed ;) |
| 16:53.09 | fewyn | that makes me sad |
| 16:53.09 | Xinhuan | don't ask me how one can "break" an addon like that! |
| 16:53.16 | Bruners | fewyn: why? |
| 16:53.32 | fewyn | because i liked dispeling stuff on my huntard in pvp =p |
| 16:53.57 | EthanCentaurai | Arcane Shot dispelled? :S |
| 16:53.58 | Bruners | fewyn: yes i liked it aswell but it was still OP |
| 16:54.02 | EthanCentaurai | I never knew that :( |
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| 16:54.08 | fewyn | yea i agree it was a bit op |
| 16:54.10 | fewyn | but i liked it |
| 16:54.16 | fewyn | yea it dispelled buffs |
| 16:54.20 | fewyn | i liked dispelling ghostwolf |
| 16:54.23 | KriLL3 | fewyn: blizz are looking into making core buffs non removable, yay |
| 16:54.37 | KriLL3 | you no take motw! |
| 16:54.42 | fewyn | oh i know that, didn't know they removed the dispel component off arcane shot |
| 16:54.51 | Bruners | fewyn: i also hated it when i played my lock before they changed the fel armor |
| 16:54.54 | KriLL3 | they put it on one of the other shots |
| 16:54.59 | fewyn | oh they did? |
| 16:55.02 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 16:55.04 | fewyn | that's ok then |
| 16:55.06 | KriLL3 | no idea which |
| 16:55.18 | fewyn | not that i am going to play my hunter anytime soon |
| 16:56.30 | KriLL3 | castsequence macro classes ftw |
| 16:56.53 | KriLL3 | the main challenge is to remain awake |
| 16:58.24 | KriLL3 | "he could, in fact, confirm that World of Warcraft would eventually have some form of paid character customization, though they themselves hadnât yet worked out any details" |
| 16:58.34 | KriLL3 | oh great... |
| 16:59.24 | KriLL3 | we pay for the game, we pay for the expansions and we pay to play the game, and now they want us to pay for character customization? free games do that stuff, not paid |
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| 17:00.04 | Josh_Borke | perhaps he means character customizations after you create your toon? |
| 17:00.10 | Bruners | KriLL3: you pay for a name change |
| 17:00.13 | Sirow | itz all aboutz teh monez |
| 17:00.13 | fewyn | i think they mean like changing gender |
| 17:00.16 | fewyn | or something |
| 17:00.19 | KriLL3 | Josh_Borke: ofc they do |
| 17:00.22 | fewyn | or race maybe? |
| 17:00.29 | fewyn | dunno |
| 17:00.31 | sacarasc | i'd pay to turn into a troll |
| 17:00.31 | KriLL3 | don't think they'll allow that |
| 17:00.33 | Josh_Borke | i have no problems with them forcing us to pay for such things |
| 17:00.39 | KriLL3 | more like hair/stuff you can't get without paying |
| 17:00.46 | fewyn | we get that ingame |
| 17:00.48 | fewyn | with gold costs |
| 17:00.57 | sylvanaar | name change is really for people selling toons |
| 17:01.00 | fewyn | they aren't going to change that to pay with real money |
| 17:01.03 | KriLL3 | I mean "extra special" stuff |
| 17:01.08 | fewyn | such as? |
| 17:01.24 | fewyn | i don't picture blizzard doing that |
| 17:01.34 | KriLL3 | more advanced designs, jewelery in your hair etc |
| 17:01.59 | KriLL3 | fewyn: they're part of act-blizz now, ;) |
| 17:02.09 | fewyn | so? |
| 17:02.18 | fewyn | they are still blizzard |
| 17:02.43 | KriLL3 | and blizzard can do no ill? |
| 17:02.49 | fewyn | NO WAI |
| 17:03.05 | DickCheney | KriLL3 = troll |
| 17:03.27 | KriLL3 | says the troll |
| 17:03.36 | Josh_Borke | it's blizzard's game to do with what they want |
| 17:03.50 | DickCheney | all you ever do is complain |
| 17:04.01 | Josh_Borke | they have built up a great game that is the most popular MMORPG in the world |
| 17:04.03 | KriLL3 | all you ever do is complain about me |
| 17:04.05 | DickCheney | and right now you're complaining about hypotheticals |
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| 17:04.21 | DickCheney | i only complain about you when you're in here whining about something |
| 17:04.34 | Josh_Borke | yes they probably make enough money to give things like character customizations away for free but why should they? whether they give us this capability or not we're still going to pay to play the game |
| 17:04.37 | Bruners | Macros and key bindings are now saved server-side so there is no longer a need to reconfigure them when logging in using another computer. that is sweet |
| 17:04.51 | KriLL3 | Bruners: indeed |
| 17:04.57 | KriLL3 | though I only use one puter for wow |
| 17:05.04 | KriLL3 | I need my addons also |
| 17:05.10 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r191 Locales/zhCN.lua: updated zhCN translation (thx to wowuicn.com) |
| 17:05.24 | stew_a | is there a simple guide anywhere on how to organise and package a library? |
| 17:05.54 | KriLL3 | too bad bar layout doesn't seem to be server side |
| 17:06.20 | KriLL3 | and it would be nice if blizz didn't empty your bars on respec/patch :| |
| 17:06.36 | Josh_Borke | who do i yell at to get some help with git on wowace? |
| 17:06.38 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox 042.1.3 * r192 : Tagging as 2.1.3. |
| 17:07.42 | KriLL3 | "We are also discussing Mangle (Cat) or Rake buffs so cats don't feel so penalized by positional requirements, particularly in PvP." make shred non positional, done. O_o |
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| 17:11.37 | Gagash | Hallo, is this the offical support channel? :D |
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| 17:12.07 | ckknight | Gagash: for what? |
| 17:12.17 | Gagash | for Pitbull :P |
| 17:12.19 | MrBaer | help! my pitbull has gone insane. |
| 17:12.22 | DickCheney | deer hunting |
| 17:12.29 | DickCheney | i need lots of help at it :( |
| 17:12.31 | Gagash | i've got an error since i load the newest version |
| 17:12.36 | KriLL3 | Gagash: is it foaming at the mouth? |
| 17:12.58 | ShaneSveller | Gagash: you may have loaded a copy that is only compatible with the PTR/Beta builds until tomorrow |
| 17:13.05 | MrBaer | mine has just eaten 2 gnomes and half a tauren. :) |
| 17:13.38 | MrBaer | and now it doesn't display anything. is there a way to revert to a 2.4.x-compatible version? |
| 17:13.42 | Gagash | mmh, i loaded it with the curse client |
| 17:14.06 | MrBaer | same here. |
| 17:14.19 | Gagash | i online see the powerbar |
| 17:14.22 | Gagash | only |
| 17:14.24 | KriLL3 | MrBaer: it's best not to update addons just prior to patch day, most authors replace the trunk with the patch build |
| 17:14.52 | Gagash | mmh, where to get an "old" pitbull version? |
| 17:15.12 | MrBaer | KriLL3: i guessed so. |
| 17:15.14 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pit-bull/files/ |
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| 17:15.25 | DickCheney | http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20081013/NEWS0103/310130082 |
| 17:15.37 | KriLL3 | I dunno which is the "old" one |
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| 17:16.08 | Gagash | i tried "r1747 Alpha Normal 10/13/2008 WoW: 2.4.3 PitBull-r1747.zip a20fda8be50d796033de6c96b4278bff" |
| 17:16.16 | KriLL3 | a bit odd the LK version isn't marked as 3.0.x |
| 17:16.18 | Gagash | but i got the same error |
| 17:16.27 | KriLL3 | ... that's the latest one |
| 17:16.36 | Bruners | Gagash: what is the error? |
| 17:16.45 | KriLL3 | I'm fairly sure that's the same you had before |
| 17:16.50 | Gagash | I cannot load the healthbar module |
| 17:16.59 | MrBaer | ckknight: can you give a hint, which version of pitbull runs fine with wow/bc-2.4.3? |
| 17:17.04 | KriLL3 | Gagash: try an older version than the latest |
| 17:17.20 | KriLL3 | MrBaer: should have been marked 3.0.x |
| 17:17.56 | MrBaer | well: v3.2.1 Release Normal 10/12/2008 WoW: 2.4.3 |
| 17:18.15 | MrBaer | actually it should be working with 2.4.3 then, right? |
| 17:18.40 | Bruners | im using 2.4.3 and its working flawless here |
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| 17:19.05 | Bruners | v3.2.1 of pitbull |
| 17:19.10 | Gagash | [2008/10/13 18:54:45-1621-x2]: PitBull-r66896\PitBull.lua:1725: Bad argument #2 to `ToggleModuleActive'. "HealthBar" is not a known module. |
| 17:19.11 | MrBaer | ok. |
| 17:19.20 | Gagash | thats the error i get with this version |
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| 17:19.34 | Gagash | when i try to load the healthbar module |
| 17:19.57 | Bruners | Gagash: remove all pitbull files in your addon directory and install again |
| 17:20.06 | Gagash | i already did |
| 17:20.38 | Gagash | deleted all, and tryed the 3.2.1 which is marked for 2.4.3 |
| 17:20.47 | Gagash | same error then befor |
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| 17:22.18 | MrBaer | maybe the saved vars changed? try moving your WTF/*/pitbull-stuff away. |
| 17:22.38 | Gagash | deleted all pitbull files in the wtf folder |
| 17:23.22 | MrBaer | doesn't work here either, btw. |
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| 17:24.49 | MrBaer | http://pastebin.com/m627b8440 <-- there are my errors. |
| 17:26.28 | Gagash | http://pastebin.com/m31dedd26 |
| 17:26.29 | Gagash | ^^ |
| 17:26.52 | Facktotum | libmobhealth errors no surprise |
| 17:27.08 | clad|away | ckknight: that's perfect, actually as long as people don't mind having to possibly scroll down for the table of contents |
| 17:27.35 | clad|away | ckknight: You could save a bunch of space by dropping the various headers and just using prefixes, i.e. |
| 17:27.50 | clad|away | Author: <Blah> Date Created: <Blah> on separate lines |
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| 17:28.43 | Facktotum | MrBaer: do you have an older version of libmobhealth? |
| 17:29.14 | MrBaer | might be, but mobhealth doesn't concern me, i would even disable it to have unitframes at all. |
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| 17:29.25 | Facktotum | you can delete it |
| 17:29.28 | Facktotum | and try again |
| 17:29.33 | MrBaer | ok. |
| 17:29.34 | Facktotum | solved some problem for people |
| 17:29.34 | Primer | that's what I did |
| 17:29.39 | Primer | and it fixed it for me |
| 17:29.53 | Primer | rm -rf AddOns/PitBull/Libs/LibModHealth-4.0/ |
| 17:30.19 | [SW]Dodge | @project titleswapper <- wtb approval ;D |
| 17:30.20 | Repo | [SW]Dodge: http://www.wowace.com/projects/titleswapper/. Title Swapper. Game: WoW. Status: Needs Approval. Leader: Netrox. Updated: 37 minutes ago |
| 17:30.57 | NeoTron | DENIED |
| 17:30.57 | NeoTron | NEXT |
| 17:30.57 | [SW]Dodge | NeoTron: Q_Q |
| 17:31.08 | Josh_Borke | why can't i use git on wowace :_( |
| 17:31.08 | NeoTron | heh |
| 17:31.23 | ShaneSveller | Josh_Borke: are you getting pubkey issues? or what? |
| 17:31.28 | Josh_Borke | ShaneSveller: yes |
| 17:31.30 | Gagash | mmh, i deleted the mobhealth folder |
| 17:31.41 | MrBaer | Facktotum: one error less, but my unitframes are still not working. |
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| 17:31.43 | Gagash | but it didn't help |
| 17:31.53 | ShaneSveller | Josh_Borke: talk to ckknight, he helped me with the same problem yesterday evening, you might also try a fresh pubkey |
| 17:32.06 | Josh_Borke | ckknight: help me! |
| 17:32.18 | MrBaer | http://pastebin.com/d80ff456 remaining. |
| 17:33.04 | MrBaer | hmm? wowace is git? always thought it's subversion. |
| 17:33.13 | nevcairiel | its whatever you want |
| 17:33.22 | Primer | I was pleasantly surprised to see my addon Just Work⢠in WotLK |
| 17:33.29 | Josh_Borke | nevcairiel: NOT WHEN I CAN'T USE IT |
| 17:33.30 | Josh_Borke | rargh |
| 17:33.32 | phyber | deleted my pitbull saved vars and deleted the mobhealth that comes with it and made sure it wasn't using old files and pitbull is still fucked here. <3 |
| 17:33.50 | KriLL3 | phyber: beta or live? |
| 17:33.53 | phyber | live |
| 17:34.10 | KriLL3 | tried the same version on the beta? might be for LK |
| 17:34.19 | phyber | it's marked as being for 2.4.3 |
| 17:34.58 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): Reorganise dictionary to lowercase sorted |
| 17:34.58 | Repo | Finished (practically) Suggest method |
| 17:36.30 | Tornhoof | nevcairiel, you happen to know of any bugs in acegui-dropdown which might lead to the dropdown menus not being shown every time? |
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| 17:37.00 | nevcairiel | none i know of |
| 17:37.13 | MrBaer | nope, cleaned wtf of any pitbull stuff, the errors still remain. |
| 17:37.44 | KriLL3 | phyber: they all are, even the ones listing changes for LK |
| 17:37.50 | sb | MrBaer: LMH error? |
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| 17:38.09 | NeoTron | this is a day of fear and uncertainty |
| 17:38.14 | NeoTron | fun stuff |
| 17:38.32 | phyber | KriLL3: the toc is for 2.4.3 too |
| 17:38.41 | KriLL3 | so? |
| 17:38.42 | Tornhoof | in yata, i have an options dialog (including these dropdown menus) and a button to open another acegui created frame which contains another dropdown menu, when you switch from different subpages of the options page to the one with the button for my custom frame, it does not draw the dropdown in the customframe |
| 17:38.58 | phyber | so, if it was a Release for beta (which it shouldn't be, beta isn't relrased yet) the TOC would be for that WoW version? |
| 17:39.08 | MrBaer | sb: sorry? LMH? |
| 17:39.23 | ulic | libmobhealth |
| 17:39.24 | sb | MrBaer: LibMobHealth!? |
| 17:39.27 | KriLL3 | If it looks like chocolate, smells like chocolate, tastes like chocolate, but the label says vanilla it's vanilla? |
| 17:39.34 | MrBaer | already erased it. |
| 17:39.49 | nevcairiel | strip LMH support from dogtags already =P |
| 17:39.49 | charon | KriLL3: no, it's a duck. |
| 17:40.09 | phyber | KriLL3: in that case, someone fucked up and filled the vanilla box with chocolate ice cream. |
| 17:40.32 | MrBaer | anything else i could clean up? |
| 17:40.34 | KriLL3 | just saying that a version with fixes/changes for LK isn't the live version... |
| 17:41.20 | Cheads | uhm.. is there an addon like !StopTheSpam ? |
| 17:41.39 | ZealotOnAStick | other than !StopTheSpam? |
| 17:41.55 | Cheads | yeah, I dont see it available anymore |
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| 17:42.11 | Facktotum | ZealonOnaStick: i want to know that as well |
| 17:42.18 | Cheads | besides : http://files.wowace.com/!StopTheSpam/ .. which I guess will die soon |
| 17:42.28 | Facktotum | its still available on wowi but i dont think it work for wotlk |
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| 17:45.00 | MrBaer | pitbull-r1743 works fine. |
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| 17:45.49 | ShaneSveller | Cheads: I'm pretty sure it's just matching certain messages and preventing them from working with ChatFrame:AddMessage, but I never looked at the code. Maybe write a new one? |
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| 17:47.23 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r8 / (3 files in 1 directory): Minor Tweaks |
| 17:50.22 | Cheads | to be honest I didn't try in on the beta.. was just wondering if someone knew of an alternative addon |
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| 17:52.14 | Gagash | MrBaer tx :-) |
| 17:52.27 | MrBaer | np. |
| 17:59.50 | Facktotum | any message on the wow login screen regarding the patch? |
| 18:00.08 | Cheads | 12 hours maintenance downtime |
| 18:00.48 | Repo | 10unit-price: 03xbeeps 041.0 * r27 : Tagging as 1.0. |
| 18:02.09 | NeoTron | someone should fix LMH to be a no-op that prints out a warning but otherwise has no effect |
| 18:02.20 | NeoTron | just so things using it doesn't break and can be fixed |
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| 18:04.02 | Facktotum | lmh is gone if the patch comes tomorrow |
| 18:04.26 | quiescens | tomorrow is going to be chaotic |
| 18:04.40 | Facktotum | for the lazy people yes |
| 18:04.50 | Facktotum | they had all the time to go on ptr and fix their addons |
| 18:05.20 | NeoTron | Facktotum: I am aware it's not going to be needed |
| 18:05.40 | Shefki | There are always things that come up that we didn't realize before. |
| 18:05.44 | NeoTron | Facktotum: my point was to make it remove all functionality but not break anything except a clear message to fix the addons using it |
| 18:06.03 | NeoTron | and I took the stance that I'll wait to fix my addons until release |
| 18:06.12 | NeoTron | because it's quite a pain to do before, especially with profiles and such |
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| 18:09.20 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03Shefki * r150 Categories/Health.lua: |
| 18:09.20 | Repo | Do not attempt to use LibMobHealth or similar libraries on 3.x clients. |
| 18:09.21 | Repo | They are obsolete and no longer needed. |
| 18:09.26 | JensRex | Pro tip! Don't ever host your shit on ThePlanet. |
| 18:09.40 | Tornhoof | nevcairiel i wrote a simple example addon to explain what's wrong with dropdown, dunno if you want that |
| 18:09.50 | Saroz | is there a changelog somewhere? diff log |
| 18:09.52 | ckknight | thanks, Shefki |
| 18:10.03 | selckin | their websites hints that all over |
| 18:10.31 | JensRex | hydrogenaudio.org and foobar2000.org are gone. |
| 18:10.36 | JensRex | As in... gone. |
| 18:10.53 | Shefki | ckknight: np it was a pretty straightforward if block. |
| 18:11.01 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 18:11.34 | Shefki | I'm still not sure how to make Mana text update more often in DogTag. |
| 18:12.03 | NeoTron | can't wait to figure out my 313 addons :P |
| 18:14.19 | NeoTron | is theer a profile manager that can handle profiled ace addons ? |
| 18:14.34 | NeoTron | i.e swap the profile in this one addon and it changes the profiles of all addons using them.. |
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| 18:15.29 | Funkeh` | JensRex, it was working earlier, so I wouldn't panick |
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| 18:15.57 | ShaneSveller | NeoTron: idk if there is, but I want it. |
| 18:16.58 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r8 / (3 files in 1 directory): - fixed settings storage |
| 18:16.59 | Repo | - fixed embeds.xml |
| 18:18.22 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox 040.2b * r9 : Tagging as 0.2b. |
| 18:22.10 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03ckknight * r1748 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 18:22.11 | Repo | remove LibMobHealth-4.0, it has issues and is going away for WoW 3.0 anyway |
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| 18:28.55 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 07wotlk * r51 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Fixed tooltip |
| 18:28.57 | Repo | - Fixed toc order |
| 18:29.35 | Repo | 10yata: 03Tornhoof 04wotlk-beta-0.51 * r52 : - Tag for beta |
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| 18:32.16 | ShaneSveller | has anyone run into issues with OptDeps when the other addon is NOT lod? |
| 18:34.03 | Hjalte | OMG patch today :> |
| 18:34.42 | ShaneSveller | I had an addon OptDep'ed, checked IsAddOnLoaded("ThatAddon") within my own addon, and no matter what the inside of that if-check never fired, during the PLAYER_LOGIN event |
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| 18:36.36 | stew_a | looks like the PTRs are going down in preparation for the patch |
| 18:37.39 | Fisker- | nah they're just going down |
| 18:37.42 | Fisker- | no patch on tuesday |
| 18:37.45 | Fisker- | nothing to see here etc. |
| 18:38.16 | stew_a | "The PTRs will be going down at noon today. We have no ETA for their expected return. In the meantime, I recommend that you enjoy yourselves on Live until such a time that they return. " |
| 18:38.23 | sb | The PTRs will be going down at 21:00 CEST this evening. |
| 18:38.23 | sb | We are grateful for your great contributions in the testing phase of the upcoming patch, and we thank you for your valuable feedback on this forum as well. |
| 18:38.30 | sb | arg |
| 18:38.31 | sb | :) |
| 18:38.34 | Fisker- | The patch is lie |
| 18:38.39 | stew_a | meh i had the US version |
| 18:40.58 | Repo | 10fu-bar_heal-bot-fu: 03piranther * r35 Fubar_HealBotFu.toc: |
| 18:40.59 | Repo | FuBar_HealBotFu: - Base my new versioning on WoW's. So this coming release will be "3.0.2-1.00" |
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| 18:42.23 | Xinhuan | ShaneSveller: probably parsing error in ThatAddon |
| 18:42.29 | Xinhuan | like XML incorrect or something |
| 18:42.53 | Xinhuan | in particular, lua comments can break XML due to the double dash |
| 18:43.03 | Xinhuan | <!-- --> |
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| 18:43.29 | Xinhuan | check framexml.log for errors |
| 18:43.47 | mitchnull | yo |
| 18:43.50 | Xinhuan | and possibly load the xml files in firefox/ie to parse |
| 18:43.54 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: the other addon is functional |
| 18:44.05 | mitchnull | fact of the day: you won't get booted for querying an invalid item :) |
| 18:44.27 | Xinhuan | mitchnull: welcome to patch 2.3 |
| 18:44.45 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: as an example, i check to see if pMinimap is loaded and if so, move the Minimap frame to somewhere else. |
| 18:44.54 | Xinhuan | side-effect: you will get booted if you query too many invalid items within a certain time period |
| 18:45.08 | mitchnull | xin: I missed a patch or two ;) |
| 18:45.12 | Xinhuan | my tests show that 1 link per 10 secs is about the fastest you can query |
| 18:45.22 | Xinhuan | without risks of d/c |
| 18:45.23 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: IsAddOnLoaded("ThatAddon"), ThatAddon is case-sensitive and linked to the folder name, correct? |
| 18:45.29 | Xinhuan | yes |
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| 18:46.20 | Xinhuan | what are you trying to do? |
| 18:46.59 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: it's a framework for hard-coding frame placement. this frame always goes here, and this frame goes here but only if addon A is loaded, this frame goes here only if addon B isn't loaded, etc. |
| 18:47.27 | Xinhuan | when are you doing the check? |
| 18:47.36 | ShaneSveller | during a PLAYER_LOGIN callback |
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| 18:47.52 | Xinhuan | did you optdep properly? |
| 18:47.54 | Pneumatus_ | isnt there an ADDON_LOADED event? |
| 18:47.55 | Josh_Borke | ShaneSveller: why not during ADDON_LOADED? |
| 18:47.56 | Xinhuan | exact spelling? |
| 18:48.15 | Pneumatus_ | id imagine that deps are only garunteed to be loaded on ADDON_LOADED |
| 18:48.17 | ShaneSveller | Xinhuan: the OptDep is the same format as IsAddOnLoaded, right? |
| 18:48.31 | Xinhuan | Josh_Borke: because PLAYER_LOGIN is where layout-cache.txt is loaded just before |
| 18:48.47 | Xinhuan | so you need to apply placement settings during PLAYER_LOGIN, not before |
| 18:48.54 | Xinhuan | u can do it after as well |
| 18:49.04 | Xinhuan | yes ## OptionalDeps: ThatAddOn |
| 18:49.09 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: sure, yea, wait until after wow has had its way then do it |
| 18:49.32 | ShaneSveller | After I place the frames myself, I set SetPoint and ClearAllPoints on each frame to dummy functions |
| 18:49.52 | ShaneSveller | and yes, I thought my OptDeps were correct, maybe not. |
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| 18:50.09 | ShaneSveller | it was the first thing I checked |
| 18:50.14 | Xinhuan | goes back to sleep |
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| 18:50.35 | Josh_Borke | Xinhuan: night night |
| 18:52.03 | ShaneSveller | OptDeps is just a comma separated list, yes? |
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| 19:01.27 | stew_a | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6178690374 looks like it really is patch day |
| 19:01.51 | quiescens | haven't we known that for two weeks |
| 19:02.18 | EthanCentaurai | is it possible to make the default minimap arrows obey GetMinimapShape()? |
| 19:03.37 | buu | quiescens: yes |
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| 19:07.49 | Repo | 10chat-stamp: 03piranther * r35 ChatStamp.toc: |
| 19:07.50 | Repo | ChatStamp: - Base my new versioning off of WoW's. So this coming release will be 3.0.2-1.00 |
| 19:08.27 | Parnic | lol, this is in the wow-europe 3.0.2 FAQ: 4.2Q Will 3.0.2 destroy all my mods again? |
| 19:08.27 | Parnic | 4.2A Some may require a small update, but nothing major may changed. |
| 19:08.40 | Parnic | "small update" my butt. 3.0 made sweeping changes to some pretty core functions |
| 19:09.13 | Keias | People that need to ask that question wouldn't be able to understand the real answer anyhow. |
| 19:09.31 | EthanCentaurai | 4.3Q Will 3.0.2 destroy my laptop? 4.3A: Yes |
| 19:09.34 | EthanCentaurai | :( |
| 19:10.24 | EthanCentaurai | dammit I ordered my iMac 6 weeks ago and it STILL hasn't arrived... |
| 19:10.33 | EthanCentaurai | phones Apple and asks for money back. |
| 19:11.21 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino * r74 EnchantingSell.toc: EnchantingSell: |
| 19:11.22 | Repo | - updated for 3.0.2 release |
| 19:11.30 | Aens|Superiority | Does aloft work in 3.0? |
| 19:11.35 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: yes |
| 19:11.53 | Aens|Superiority | hrm... My ui is megaborked from doing a curse update |
| 19:11.57 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: not sure about the one you'd get from WowAce but there's a patched version on WowInt that worked OK before I gave it up for bloat |
| 19:12.11 | Aens|Superiority | wowint? |
| 19:12.28 | ShaneSveller | wowinterface.com |
| 19:12.31 | Aens|Superiority | and aloft is so far away from bloat. Its neigh impossible to tank without it later on. |
| 19:13.01 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: if all I want is re-textured name plates that also show combo points, yeah, it sure is. |
| 19:13.42 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: sucker takes almost 2MB of my RAM all by itself, my whole 3.0 UI is only 22 |
| 19:13.59 | Aens|Superiority | if all you do is hit /assist, then sure. |
| 19:15.22 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: It does much more than I need it to and has a perceivable hit on my load times and memory usage, even with a Q6600 and 4GB of DDR2-800, that to me aren't worth it. |
| 19:16.36 | KriLL3 | ShaneSveller: which mod? |
| 19:16.41 | ShaneSveller | KriLL3: Aloft |
| 19:16.46 | KriLL3 | never heard of |
| 19:16.49 | KriLL3 | what does it do? |
| 19:17.03 | ShaneSveller | KriLL3: pretty name plates + kitchen sink: http://www.wowace.com/projects/aloft/ |
| 19:17.23 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 19:17.53 | KriLL3 | yeah sounds like someone started with a nice idea to customize the name plates, then added everything else they could think of for good measure |
| 19:18.22 | Aens|Superiority | Its no different than pitbull or cowtip... |
| 19:18.33 | KriLL3 | a lot of authors doesn't seem to realize their mods has a larger target audience than themselves =P |
| 19:18.45 | ShaneSveller | KriLL3: 2.85MB of pure lua goodness =P |
| 19:18.47 | KriLL3 | pitbull does UI frames, that's it, cowtip does tooltips |
| 19:19.00 | Aens|Superiority | and aloft does name plates? |
| 19:19.08 | KriLL3 | and a ton more |
| 19:19.11 | Aens|Superiority | like? |
| 19:19.14 | ShaneSveller | it does everything ON your nameplates, there's a difference |
| 19:19.25 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowace.com/projects/aloft/ check the list |
| 19:19.53 | Aens|Superiority | i think you should re-read that descriptiong KriLL3 |
| 19:20.03 | Aens|Superiority | That list is for name plates. |
| 19:20.19 | ShaneSveller | 13. Polymorph Timer bar |
| 19:20.20 | ShaneSveller | 14. Undead shackle Timer bar are not nameplates |
| 19:20.37 | KriLL3 | and pitbull is in modules, don't want a part of it? disable that part |
| 19:20.39 | ShaneSveller | nor are 9. Comments - Show "Banker", "Flight Master" and other automatically gathered comments, or your own custom ones right on the nameplate |
| 19:20.39 | ShaneSveller | 10. Mana Bar/Text - show group member mana, energy, rage |
| 19:20.42 | KriLL3 | I doubt aloft is |
| 19:20.44 | Aens|Superiority | yeah it is. Its a castbar attached to the name plate. |
| 19:20.50 | ShaneSveller | castbar. |
| 19:20.52 | ShaneSveller | not nameplate. |
| 19:20.55 | Aens|Superiority | and you can disable portions of it |
| 19:21.05 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: it is attached to the name plate. |
| 19:21.22 | KriLL3 | that's in the default UI also ShaneSveller, you can have a castbar on the plate |
| 19:21.23 | ShaneSveller | castbar is out of scope for a nameplate addon, imo |
| 19:21.28 | KriLL3 | useful in pvp |
| 19:21.37 | Aens|Superiority | .... |
| 19:21.51 | ShaneSveller | but timer bars are definitely bloat |
| 19:22.06 | ShaneSveller | and the whole thing could just realllllly use a rewrite before i use it again |
| 19:22.06 | Aens|Superiority | as KriLL3 said. Its part of the default UI already to have a castbar show underneath the name plate. |
| 19:22.16 | NeoTron | Aloft is pretty heavy |
| 19:22.36 | NeoTron | although I believe part of the heavy comes from it being a rather heavy task to accomplish |
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| 19:23.03 | KriLL3 | it's larger than auctioneer |
| 19:23.12 | KriLL3 | nuff said |
| 19:23.12 | Aens|Superiority | if you dont disable the memory |
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| 19:23.29 | ShaneSveller | KriLL3: srsly. that should tell you you have a wicked case of feature-creep |
| 19:23.32 | Aens|Superiority | it writes everyone's class, level, guild, etc etc down by default. Just turn it off. |
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| 19:23.45 | NeoTron | I used it, loved it, and figured out the drawbacks and reluctantly uninstalled it |
| 19:23.57 | Aens|Superiority | So you dont have to mouse over things to find out their class/level/etc |
| 19:23.59 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: that nearly-2MB of memory usage is on startup. |
| 19:24.13 | Aens|Superiority | dont use a 386? |
| 19:24.29 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07IsItemInRange * r13 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: mostly fixed, ready for adding/checking new items |
| 19:24.35 | Aens|Superiority | and as I said at the very start. If all you do is hit /assist, then yes, aloft is bloat |
| 19:25.22 | Adirelle | notes that "kitchen sink" if the translation of french's "and makes coffee" |
| 19:25.29 | Aens|Superiority | if you ever ever ever have to make a rational target decision on your own without hand holding, then aloft is I think, the most important addon. |
| 19:25.52 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: anything that adds up to just shy of 3MB of nothing but lua and xml needs some heavy refactoring. |
| 19:26.11 | Aens|Superiority | my aloft is less than 1mb. |
| 19:26.19 | Aens|Superiority | I dont understand where you get your 3mb from |
| 19:26.28 | Aens|Superiority | pitbull uses up more memory |
| 19:26.32 | ShaneSveller | a fresh copy i just downloaded. http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/164/866/Aloft-r425.zip |
| 19:26.52 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: I don't use pitbull, either. and I would expect "real" unitframes to do so. |
| 19:26.55 | Aens|Superiority | As I said, did you turn off the memory features? |
| 19:26.56 | KriLL3 | pitbull uses about 1MB for me |
| 19:27.12 | ShaneSveller | 3MB is the space the lua takes up on my harddisk, to clarify |
| 19:27.21 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r10 / (3 files in 1 directory): fixed new title announcements |
| 19:27.47 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox 040.3b * r11 : Tagging as 0.3b. |
| 19:28.01 | Aens|Superiority | you are arguing about bloat on your hard disk? |
| 19:28.28 | Facktotum | dude learn to read |
| 19:28.33 | Facktotum | he said lua file |
| 19:28.47 | ShaneSveller | 3 MB of plaintext is pretty ridiculous. |
| 19:28.48 | fauxpas | which includes all libs he's probably running anyways |
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| 19:29.05 | Aens|Superiority | yes, and that is totally irrelevant to how much addon memory that is being used in game. |
| 19:29.05 | Arrowmaster | 3mb is nothing |
| 19:29.15 | Arrowmaster | my addon folder is 107mb |
| 19:29.29 | fauxpas | that may be due to cluster size though |
| 19:29.36 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 19:29.46 | ShaneSveller | I have about 1.2TB of storage and 4GB of RAM in my gaming machine, but yeah, I'm still willing to quibble about this |
| 19:29.55 | ShaneSveller | 2.85MB, on disk is 3.22MB |
| 19:29.58 | fauxpas | well mine's 84mb :D |
| 19:30.04 | fauxpas | ShaneSveller: that includes libs |
| 19:30.09 | KriLL3 | the main problem for me isn't resources needed, but loadtimes extended |
| 19:30.17 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: please, learn the difference between size on disk, and addon memeory in game. |
| 19:30.46 | Aens|Superiority | memory* |
| 19:30.49 | fauxpas | my addon folder is 84mb big, ingame memory is 32mb |
| 19:31.08 | fauxpas | including stuff like lightheaded, recount and gathermate which all use quite much |
| 19:31.11 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino * r75 .pkgmeta: EnchantingSell: |
| 19:31.11 | Repo | - fixed tablet external |
| 19:31.13 | fauxpas | (logically) |
| 19:31.15 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: feel free to continue suggesting both that i play a huntard or something similar, and that i'm ignorant of filesystem allocation. go ahead. |
| 19:31.30 | Aens|Superiority | ... |
| 19:31.36 | ZealotOnAStick | ShaneSveller: go play a huntard or something similar and . . . stuff. |
| 19:31.37 | Aens|Superiority | file systems have nothing to do with this at all. |
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| 19:32.09 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: ShaneSveller: please, learn the difference between size on disk, and addon memeory in game. |
| 19:32.28 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: yes, you need to learn about the 2nd and not the first. |
| 19:33.13 | ShaneSveller | I've discussed both. it uses not quite 2MB on startup and not quite 3MB on my disk. did i lose you somewhere along the way? |
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| 19:33.55 | Tuxbubling1 | hello |
| 19:33.58 | Aens|Superiority | and it uses less than 1mb here? I then asked if you turned off the memory options and you totally skipped over that into size on disk and etc. |
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| 19:34.34 | KriLL3 | Tuxbubling1: hi there, you might want to step back a bit, geek brawl underway |
| 19:34.50 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: I didn't skip anything. I stated that 2MB memory usage is on startup. It won't shrink by disabling caching of player details. |
| 19:35.11 | Tuxbubling1 | do someone knows an addon that let's you say more that what is possible in chat edit box? something that will cut a line in multiple parts instead of stopping texting... |
| 19:35.13 | Tuxbubling1 | KriLL3: ? |
| 19:35.35 | NeoTron | Tuxbubling: write less? :P |
| 19:35.36 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: unless it's coded so poorly that garbage collection does some serious magic. |
| 19:35.41 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: Explain what a cache is and why it would be excluded on start up? |
| 19:36.06 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino * r76 : EnchantingSell: |
| 19:36.07 | Repo | - removed svn:externals |
| 19:36.25 | Tuxbubling | NeoTron: well you know when you wanna link all your stuff to craft etc.... that's a bit anoying |
| 19:36.36 | Arrowmaster | Tuxbubling: wait a day |
| 19:36.40 | Aens|Superiority | Tuxbubling: that changes tomorrow |
| 19:36.46 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: you said the memory usage is considerably less if you don't allow Aloft to remember details about mobs and players on mouseover. I'm saying that it already uses 2MB of RAM from the get go before it even tries to remember anything |
| 19:36.53 | Aens|Superiority | Tuxbubling: you can link your entire professions window in trade chat. |
| 19:37.13 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: it is on by default |
| 19:37.28 | Aens|Superiority | and you have yet to answer my question on whether you turned it off or not. |
| 19:38.02 | Sliker_Hawk | Completely off topic: is WowAceUpdater still current or is there something else I should be using since the new wowace.com? |
| 19:38.10 | Aens|Superiority | wau is dead. |
| 19:38.11 | NeoTron | Sliker_Hawk: Curse Client |
| 19:38.13 | Arrowmaster | Sliker_Hawk: curse client |
| 19:38.17 | Aens|Superiority | wuu is the best free alternative. |
| 19:38.24 | KriLL3 | it was murder |
| 19:38.28 | Sliker_Hawk | Thanks |
| 19:38.35 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: fine, I'll go do so. I doubt it will make much difference from a do-it-all approach on the author's part. |
| 19:38.43 | Aens|Superiority | wuu keeps the auto updating that you have to pay for with the curse client. |
| 19:38.50 | KriLL3 | the butler, in the study, with the lead pipe |
| 19:39.01 | Arrowmaster | auto updating is bad anyway |
| 19:39.09 | Pneumatus_ | not to mention unneccesary |
| 19:39.13 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: all of it is LoD. While LoD is dead in 3.0, it isn't till server maintenance tomorrow. |
| 19:39.36 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: even the config menu is LoD which is more than what can be said about most mods. |
| 19:39.37 | Tuxbubling | Aens|Superiority: Arrowmaster how ok :D |
| 19:39.42 | Sliker_Hawk | As long as it can update everything when I tell it to without externals I'm happy |
| 19:40.03 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: how is it LOD when every file is in TOC? |
| 19:40.31 | Aens|Superiority | <Facepalm> |
| 19:42.10 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: disabled the saving of player data shaved off .6MB at startup |
| 19:42.25 | Shane|AFK | duty calls, brb |
| 19:42.44 | Aens|Superiority | <Facepalm> |
| 19:43.11 | Aens|Superiority | all that arguing and he now realizes that one option reduced the addon memory by 33%. |
| 19:43.32 | Aens|Superiority | wonder what he thinks of recount. |
| 19:44.05 | ZealotOnAStick | He should enable ALL Those checkboxes and set saving time data in there for like . . . 6 hours, or whatever the max is. |
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| 19:45.06 | Arrowmaster | hmm ive got 230+ emails from curse |
| 19:45.20 | Cheads | it's insanely spammy =( |
| 19:45.38 | Aens|Superiority | zoas: then complain about how it uses up 50 mb while sitting in town |
| 19:45.46 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: that doesn't change the fact that what started this debacle still holds true: it does way too goddamn much that I don't need, and is one of the heaviest addons I (used to) run |
| 19:46.20 | Aens|Superiority | it does everything it needs to concerning name plates and all of it is LoD |
| 19:46.30 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: you love it to death, and that's cool for you and your playstyle. I don't like the way it's coded and consider it to be heavy and so don't use it. |
| 19:46.31 | Arrowmaster | Cheads: you arent a moderator on both CF and wowace |
| 19:46.36 | Arrowmaster | you dont know spam |
| 19:46.48 | Aens|Superiority | I absolutely 100% fail to understand how you can complain about it doing too much when you can make it do nothing at all. |
| 19:47.25 | ZealotOnAStick | speaking of nameplates, is there a truly working branch/version of Aloft for wotlk/3.0.2? |
| 19:47.26 | Aens|Superiority | (and consume no more addon memory than some libs do) |
| 19:47.26 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: your definition of LOD must be different than mine. All the lua in the whole addon is still loaded when you first log in, and at first takes up all the memory it usually would. It's freed up after a garbage collection cycle, but the initial load time and usage is still there. |
| 19:47.39 | Aens|Superiority | zoas: thats what i came in here asking at first. |
| 19:48.11 | ZealotOnAStick | I know there was a version of Aloft someone was trying to "maintain" on WoWI, but the two versions of that I tried on beta puked hard. |
| 19:48.18 | Aens|Superiority | was gonna go feral again in wotlk beta to try out some changes, haven't needed aloft till then. |
| 19:48.32 | ShaneSveller | ZealotOnAStick: that same version worked for me as recently as last wednesday |
| 19:48.40 | Facktotum | i use Evlnameplates |
| 19:48.47 | Facktotum | its light and does the job |
| 19:48.51 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino 0476 * r79 : EnchantingSell: |
| 19:48.52 | Repo | - Tagging as 76 |
| 19:48.58 | ShaneSveller | Facktotum: that didn't appear to work on 3.0, probably only needs minor changes |
| 19:48.58 | ZealotOnAStick | I've been using Aloft for so long, the base UI nameplates look WRONG to me. |
| 19:49.08 | ShaneSveller | zoas: they're fugly, yeah. |
| 19:49.36 | ZealotOnAStick | fugly and lacking useful info and with things in the wrong places. |
| 19:50.11 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle: WTF? |
| 19:50.17 | Arrowmaster | Bigwigs Alterac Valley Timers by Blawler: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bigwigs_alteracvalley/ |
| 19:50.17 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.29 | Arrowmaster | Approve Project â Bigwigs Alterac Valley Timers â View Activity Log Adirelle 10/07/2008 11:07:27 |
| 19:51.08 | Aens|Superiority | lawl. Well, AV is pretty much a pve battleground. |
| 19:51.28 | ZealotOnAStick | isn't that what like Capping is for? |
| 19:51.33 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 19:51.38 | ShaneSveller | exactly what it's for, yeah. |
| 19:51.39 | Arrowmaster | and im fucking deleting this |
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| 19:53.00 | sylvanaar | ShaneSveller do you have any concept of what makes load time slow? or why memory use is high at startup? |
| 19:53.30 | ShaneSveller | sylvanaar: the latter is primarily duplication of libs which is alleviated through garbage collection |
| 19:53.47 | sylvanaar | that's incidental |
| 19:54.14 | *** join/#wowace mykx (n=mikex@93-97-222-196.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:54.28 | Aens|Superiority | oh man. onebag doesn't work either :/ I can't click inventory items. |
| 19:54.34 | sylvanaar | this is a pet peeve of mine...that people misunderstand what is supposed to happen at startup |
| 19:54.53 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: Bagnon does, and Cargor on WowInt has a decent one called cargoBags as well |
| 19:55.25 | sylvanaar | your code is read in and compiled. It uses its maximum amount of static memory at that point |
| 19:55.33 | Aens|Superiority | does bagnon have the option to turn off that bag sorting crap that I couldn't find the last time I used it? |
| 19:55.47 | sylvanaar | thats how it is supposed to work |
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| 19:56.13 | sylvanaar | that process is lightning fast |
| 19:56.17 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino 0476 * r80 : EnchantingSell: |
| 19:56.18 | Repo | - |
| 19:56.39 | ShaneSveller | Aens|Superiority: Bagnon is just one window for all your bags, you may be thinking of Baggins which sorts by category, i.e. Equipment, Pots, etc. |
| 19:57.18 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: lighting fast is relative. I notice significantly slower load times when I run without disembedded libraries on my rusting computer |
| 19:57.21 | ShaneSveller | sylvanaar: meaning the only extra memory used is "dynamic", i.e. data built up over the runtime? |
| 19:57.21 | sylvanaar | its the execution of the main chunk that causes slow loads...if there is code doing things in the main chunk repetition of that main chunk will cause slow loading |
| 19:57.52 | Aens|Superiority | ShaneSveller: the last time i used it, it catagorized my items according to item type. This was around when 2.0 came out. |
| 19:57.55 | sylvanaar | ShaneSveller right |
| 19:58.29 | sylvanaar | NeoTron because the libraries (some) execute code in their main chunks |
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| 19:59.03 | NeoTron | to account for almost twice the load time, there has to be quite a lot of execution going on |
| 19:59.41 | ShaneSveller | with saving data off, options moved out for LOD, and disembedded libs Aloft still uses a little over a MB for me on my laptop. I can get what *I* want out of it by putting some new textures in my Interface dir and be done, for no loading/memory/cpu hit. aloft is not a good choice for *me*. |
| 19:59.44 | sylvanaar | no, thats not true |
| 20:00.03 | sylvanaar | you are holding up the io by executing your code |
| 20:00.39 | sylvanaar | wow only loads on one thred |
| 20:00.45 | Facktotum | Aens|Superiority: use combuctor |
| 20:01.56 | ZealotOnAStick | Aens|Superiority: Bagnon hasn't had the item categorization stuff for ages. Tuller split that off into Combuctor. |
| 20:02.33 | ZealotOnAStick | Bagnon now is just a big one-bag style mod, with bank handling as well, and will track items across alts if you have that module enabled. |
| 20:02.37 | ShaneSveller | Which is actually a really solid bag mod. but if you don't want categorization, look at recent copies of bagnon. |
| 20:02.59 | mitchnull | is happy |
| 20:03.16 | NeoTron | there's also baggins |
| 20:03.17 | mitchnull | 5yd granuality with librangecheck |
| 20:03.20 | NeoTron | if you role that way |
| 20:03.35 | ZealotOnAStick | There's Baggins, Luggage, ArkInventory . . . |
| 20:03.39 | ZealotOnAStick | lots of those sorts of things. |
| 20:03.51 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino 04r76 * r81 : EnchantingSell: |
| 20:03.52 | Repo | - Tagging as 76 |
| 20:03.53 | Aens|Superiority | ZealotOnAStick: ah, ok. I haven't had to use anything but onebag since i found it. Only feature I hated about onebag was how you couldn't delete saved characters in oneview. Good for my mules, bad for when I did recruiting. |
| 20:04.02 | ShaneSveller | Luggage is still a bit buggy for me but shows real promise, and ArkInventory had too much CPU overhead for my taste |
| 20:04.39 | NeoTron | I 2nd the ArkInventory assessment |
| 20:04.46 | ZealotOnAStick | I use Bagnon and MrPlow, except for my lock main, where I use default bags and my CDO. |
| 20:04.57 | ShaneSveller | MrPlow is good stuff. |
| 20:05.04 | ShaneSveller | Still going strong on 3.0. |
| 20:05.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I want Guild Bank Plow. :/ |
| 20:05.26 | sylvanaar | ok im using bankstack, because mr plow hasnt worked with profession bags for 2 years |
| 20:06.13 | KriLL3 | sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't |
| 20:06.29 | sylvanaar | right you have to figure out what item it got stuck on |
| 20:06.35 | KriLL3 | always fun |
| 20:06.40 | sylvanaar | bankstack doesnt have that problem |
| 20:06.51 | sylvanaar | its also faster |
| 20:06.54 | KriLL3 | does it do the rest of what mrplow does or just stacking into the bank? |
| 20:06.59 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 20:07.02 | KriLL3 | link :> |
| 20:07.07 | sylvanaar | uh |
| 20:07.15 | ZealotOnAStick | if it does the sorting, that might be worth paying attention to. |
| 20:07.22 | ShaneSveller | http://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-stack/ |
| 20:07.35 | KriLL3 | thx |
| 20:07.39 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-stack/ |
| 20:07.42 | sylvanaar | grr |
| 20:07.56 | sylvanaar | yes it sorts bag bank |
| 20:08.07 | ShaneSveller | I think MrPlow is one of my last few Ace2 mods |
| 20:08.10 | ckknight | hey all |
| 20:08.11 | ZealotOnAStick | I've used MrPlow for ages because it hasn't broken and it's (corrollarily) continued working. So, had no reason to look for something else. |
| 20:08.12 | sylvanaar | and stacks bag to bank and bank to bag |
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| 20:08.35 | Repo | 10enchanting-sell: 03Shamino 04v20400.01 * r82 : EnchantingSell: |
| 20:08.36 | Repo | - Tagging release v20400.01 |
| 20:08.41 | ckknight | I'm gonna test something on wowace/curseforge |
| 20:08.41 | sylvanaar | i have been fighting mrplow for 2 years, im so happy for bankstack |
| 20:08.49 | ZealotOnAStick | I also don't use Profession bags, because I've found easy availablity of 18/20 slot bags more flexible. |
| 20:09.14 | ckknight | basically, gonna disable download links on wowace/curseforge for people not logged in |
| 20:09.20 | sylvanaar | my prof bags are bigger, esp the engi bag on my priest |
| 20:09.29 | ckknight | this is in preparation for tomorrow (patch day) |
| 20:09.36 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 20:09.54 | ShaneSveller | sylvanaar: thanks for the heads up about bankstack |
| 20:10.09 | ShaneSveller | hm, LDB support is a big plus. |
| 20:10.14 | sylvanaar | sure, it uses ldb, so thats.. yeah |
| 20:10.31 | ZealotOnAStick | Well, my main is a lock, I've also lost one slot to shard bag, devoting another bag to <profession> is too limiting. |
| 20:11.00 | sylvanaar | sure, its 10x faster did i mention that |
| 20:11.18 | ZealotOnAStick | you said faster. |
| 20:11.27 | ShaneSveller | yup. |
| 20:11.42 | ZealotOnAStick | is there a forum thread or something somewhere that has some actual info on it? There's jack all other than a files list on the project. |
| 20:11.56 | sylvanaar | i dont know |
| 20:12.06 | sylvanaar | i just grabbed it the other day |
| 20:12.32 | sylvanaar | im not sure where i heard of it |
| 20:12.35 | sylvanaar | maybe the forum |
| 20:12.41 | ShaneSveller | wow, holy frak. |
| 20:12.45 | ShaneSveller | it is really, really fast. |
| 20:12.47 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 20:13.07 | NeoTron | ckknight: is that going to affect curse.com as well or just the addon dev/hosting sites? |
| 20:13.24 | ckknight | NeoTron: just wowace/curseforge |
| 20:13.25 | ShaneSveller | ~2 seconds for 80+ slots on my macbook, which is no powerhouse. |
| 20:13.26 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, ShaneSveller |
| 20:13.26 | sylvanaar | you notice your quest items are separated |
| 20:13.39 | ckknight | we don't want the unwashed populace to use wowace or curseforge to get their addons |
| 20:13.40 | NeoTron | good. hopefully that means better/easier access for us.. |
| 20:13.44 | ckknight | power users, yes |
| 20:13.47 | ckknight | authors, definitely |
| 20:13.53 | sylvanaar | and stacked in the reverse direction so theres a gap |
| 20:14.04 | ShaneSveller | mmhm |
| 20:14.13 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07IsItemInRange * r14 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: |
| 20:14.14 | Repo | prefer items over interact, replace soulstone, use item[15] for minRangeCheck if possible |
| 20:14.19 | ckknight | my goal is for wowace/curseforge to not go down a single minute or have a degraded experience for authors |
| 20:14.44 | ShaneSveller | ZealotOnAStick: I highly recommend you look into BankStack after just trying it out. |
| 20:14.45 | ZealotOnAStick | So, I've been a little out of things for a while. Someone explain to me how LDB is now the holy grail of everything and why? |
| 20:15.02 | ramoz | so the patch is 100% for tomorrow? |
| 20:15.09 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: it's a way to provide a simple UI/status information/launcher without being dependant on a specific display addon |
| 20:15.15 | NeoTron | write once, display however you wish |
| 20:15.20 | ckknight | ramoz: very, very likely |
| 20:15.24 | ramoz | ~alert |
| 20:15.24 | purl | I'm falling asleep listening to you boring morons... |
| 20:15.27 | sylvanaar | alot of apps use it for thier launcher icon |
| 20:15.32 | ShaneSveller | could be minimap herpes, fubar-style bar, draggable blocks... |
| 20:15.52 | ShaneSveller | and it's a lot lighter than fubar-plugin =P |
| 20:16.00 | NeoTron | removes the need to write Ace2/Rock stuff to work with FuBar. Removes the need for a titan panel version etc |
| 20:16.15 | sylvanaar | no dropdown menu though |
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| 20:16.20 | ZealotOnAStick | I've looked at the various display things, Fortress looks the closest to Fubar (I LIKE FuBar dammit) . . . but it looks like a massive pain to switch everything that's working just fine to something else to achieve the same functionality. |
| 20:16.27 | sylvanaar | there are differences |
| 20:16.39 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: frankly.. ButtonBin probably is closer |
| 20:16.51 | ShaneSveller | ZealotOnAStick: for now you could just use Broker2Fubar to hang on to the dream =P |
| 20:16.54 | NeoTron | Fortress and SBC both depend on individual blocks where ButtonBin lets you make a bar |
| 20:16.57 | sylvanaar | ZealotOnAStick welcome to everyone rewriting all their addons for no reason |
| 20:17.09 | durcyn | fubar being semi-abandoned didn't help much, fwiw. |
| 20:17.29 | ZealotOnAStick | ShaneSveller: or . . . I could just continue using something that's not (currently) broken? |
| 20:17.29 | NeoTron | and ofc Titan panel which was the original inspiration for FuBar |
| 20:17.35 | ShaneSveller | I just liked being able to get away from having a second framework loaded (rock alongside ace2/3) |
| 20:17.50 | ZealotOnAStick | I've yet to see any LDB addon that was ZOMGCompelling/better than what I use now. |
| 20:17.52 | ShaneSveller | ZealotOnAStick: I mean to take advantage of mods which use only ldb |
| 20:18.02 | mitchnull | btw, is there a Time module for fortress? |
| 20:18.13 | NeoTron | ZealotOnAStick: frankly, it's more about being zomgcompelling for the addon AUTHORS |
| 20:18.13 | durcyn | mitch: Broker_Clock? |
| 20:18.23 | mitchnull | sounds nice, thanks ;) |
| 20:18.23 | sylvanaar | just use the bliz clock |
| 20:18.31 | mitchnull | oh, there is one? |
| 20:18.36 | sylvanaar | uh huh |
| 20:18.41 | durcyn | yeah, but it's wedged into the minimap |
| 20:18.47 | mitchnull | ah |
| 20:19.05 | mitchnull | oh, the mouseover one? |
| 20:19.11 | mitchnull | that's crap |
| 20:19.11 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 20:19.13 | ShaneSveller | no, there's one on the bottom of the mm now |
| 20:19.23 | sylvanaar | what other one was there |
| 20:19.26 | durcyn | 3.0 adds a proper clock, it's still anchored to MinimapCluster |
| 20:19.32 | ShaneSveller | mouse-over tooltip on the sun/moon icon? |
| 20:19.36 | sylvanaar | oh lol |
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| 20:19.44 | ShaneSveller | hehe |
| 20:19.50 | mitchnull | sylvanaar: too much beta? :) |
| 20:19.55 | sylvanaar | i havent played 2.4 in so long |
| 20:20.14 | sylvanaar | i had quit wow, and came back for beta |
| 20:20.44 | DarkAudit | hmm... WowAce is on freenode... who knew? :) |
| 20:20.55 | ckknight | I knew. |
| 20:21.00 | sylvanaar | i had planned to spend more time developing prat3, but beta is too fun |
| 20:21.18 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: I'd never forsake addon development...to level my DK to 80. never! |
| 20:21.20 | Facktotum | lazy |
| 20:21.29 | sylvanaar | i leveled my druid to 80 |
| 20:21.29 | NeoTron | notes he has bugs in Magic Targets that needs fixing.. |
| 20:21.32 | DarkAudit | ckknight: I've been on freenode for years, and just found out you were here about 30 seconds ago :) |
| 20:21.33 | ckknight | okay, wowace and curseforge no longer have download links for people not logged in. |
| 20:21.39 | mitchnull | I planned on getting some money for my epic flyer, but rangedisplay is too fun ;) |
| 20:21.44 | ckknight | DarkAudit: there's a whole bunch of fun channels on here |
| 20:22.43 | Pneumatus | are wowace/cf being hammered already? |
| 20:23.33 | DarkAudit | ckknight: will folks need to have a WowAce account to download via JWU? |
| 20:23.40 | ZealotOnAStick | was out on the corner in shattrath last night handing out mallets. |
| 20:23.54 | Facktotum | JWU has nothing to do with wowace/curse |
| 20:24.22 | Pneumatus | depends which sites bandwidth JWU is leeching i guess |
| 20:24.35 | ckknight | DarkAudit: I have no idea about JWU |
| 20:24.42 | ckknight | Pneumatus: no, just preparing |
| 20:24.47 | NeoTron | DarkAudit: JWU downloads from curse.com, wowinterface.com etc. not curseforge/wowace |
| 20:25.09 | Pneumatus | ckknight: disabling new user signups as well? |
| 20:25.17 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.27 | DarkAudit | NeoTron: even when the link pointing to the location of the addon is wowace? |
| 20:25.29 | ramoz | JWU 2.0 was released today |
| 20:25.39 | Primer | which is why I had to switch to curse client, since JWU stopped working |
| 20:25.40 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03sylvanaar * r111 BankStack.toc: TOC 30000 for this gem |
| 20:26.04 | sylvanaar | Kemayo |
| 20:26.08 | sylvanaar | Kemayo |
| 20:26.14 | chiper | thinks about tomorrow and shudders |
| 20:26.24 | sylvanaar | Kemayo I <3 U |
| 20:26.28 | DarkAudit | Primer: what are you using? JWU works fine here on 32-bit Arch |
| 20:26.46 | ckknight | Pneumatus: no |
| 20:26.50 | Primer | DarkAudit: err, I _was_ using JWU until it stopped updating my addons |
| 20:26.53 | NeoTron | JWU has support to download from new wowace? |
| 20:27.05 | ckknight | if wowace/curseforge get hammered to a point where we can't take the traffic, we'll disable non-author logins |
| 20:27.30 | DarkAudit | NeoTron: You have to point JWU to the URL of each addon individually |
| 20:27.46 | DarkAudit | after the list is setup, it will update |
| 20:27.46 | Primer | for curse and wowi, yes |
| 20:27.58 | Primer | but that wasn't the case for wowace |
| 20:28.04 | chiper | hey sylvanaar, do you have a page made up for what changes need to be made to a prat2 module to work with prat3? |
| 20:28.06 | Primer | unless that's recently changed |
| 20:28.22 | DarkAudit | Primer: it's working now |
| 20:28.45 | Primer | DarkAudit: so where is it getting the wowace files? My understanding was that it always got updates from files.wowace.com |
| 20:28.47 | sylvanaar | chiper no |
| 20:28.47 | ZealotOnAStick | btw, ck, who do I bug about getting my duplicated projects merged? |
| 20:28.57 | Primer | and I also understand that files.wowace.com doesn't exist any more |
| 20:29.06 | sylvanaar | chiper but there are 30+ examples in prat |
| 20:29.12 | chiper | hmm, k |
| 20:29.13 | Primer | I mean, it's no longer updated |
| 20:29.17 | Arrowmaster | ZealotOnAStick: merge them yourself, that is if you are author of both |
| 20:29.26 | DarkAudit | Primer: that's changed... for *all* addons, you have to click on handle addons, then set each addon's URL individually |
| 20:29.44 | Primer | DarkAudit: and it still handles externals in the same way it did before? |
| 20:29.45 | sylvanaar | chiper why do you ask? |
| 20:29.49 | chiper | sylvanaar: I'm assuming I'll have to update Prat_Signon. havent actually tried prat3 yet |
| 20:30.09 | Primer | DarkAudit: guess I'm going back to JWU then, since I have some wowinterface-only addons |
| 20:30.13 | DarkAudit | Primer: no... you have to set those individually as well... there is no "externals" setting |
| 20:30.17 | sylvanaar | chiper ah yeah, i can answer any questions you have. its actually really simple |
| 20:30.23 | ZealotOnAStick | I am, but one shows only on CF, while the other is on WoWAce. When I merge them, which one ends up as the result? |
| 20:30.24 | chiper | ok, cool. |
| 20:30.35 | Primer | DarkAudit: you sure? JWU did a pretty good job of un-embedding libraries from addons |
| 20:30.51 | chiper | sylvanaar: am I correct in my guess that prat2 wont work with 3.0.2? |
| 20:31.08 | ramoz | Primer: did, not sure if it supports it anymore |
| 20:31.13 | DarkAudit | Primer: I'm sure... the "externals" option is no longer present |
| 20:31.14 | NeoTron | JWU did that when id could use the xml feed |
| 20:31.20 | sylvanaar | chiper there is a 3.0 branch of prat2, it has worked on beta |
| 20:31.25 | chiper | ok |
| 20:31.25 | ZealotOnAStick | oh, never mind. |
| 20:31.28 | sylvanaar | chiper but im not maintaining it |
| 20:31.28 | ZealotOnAStick | I see now. |
| 20:31.33 | chiper | *nod* |
| 20:31.55 | NeoTron | really the main way to get proper externals post-change is direct repository access |
| 20:31.57 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03Shefki * r1749 PowerBar/PowerBar.lua: |
| 20:31.58 | Repo | - Update the PowerBar on a more regular basis for the player and pet frames, |
| 20:31.59 | Repo | matching the default UI's behavior. |
| 20:32.19 | Primer | Hrmm, I wonder why |
| 20:32.27 | DarkAudit | odd thing here is that WoW in WINE only needs *some* externals, not all |
| 20:32.35 | chiper | goes to lunk |
| 20:32.36 | ZealotOnAStick | Hmm. Ok, I did that, now it's only on CF. :/ Would prefer it was on WoWAce. |
| 20:32.38 | chiper | *lunch |
| 20:32.46 | ckknight | ZealotOnAStick: link? |
| 20:32.55 | ZealotOnAStick | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/fubar_logfu2/ |
| 20:33.16 | Primer | DarkAudit: heh, wow in wine should be no different than wow in windows |
| 20:33.17 | sylvanaar | if you merge 2 addons, you get a 500, and the 2 merge into a 404 |
| 20:33.21 | ckknight | k, ZealotOnAStick |
| 20:33.28 | ckknight | lol, sylvanaar |
| 20:33.34 | sylvanaar | lol seriously |
| 20:33.36 | ckknight | sylvanaar: I fixed that, it was a bad data invalidation thing |
| 20:33.40 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 20:33.53 | sylvanaar | let me see if my merged addon is back |
| 20:34.04 | DarkAudit | Primer: I get a lot of library not found in WINE that I didn't in Windows... mostly Babble |
| 20:34.17 | Primer | rsync your Addons directory |
| 20:34.23 | Primer | they're likely not the same |
| 20:34.30 | Primer | that's what I used to do |
| 20:34.33 | sylvanaar | ckknight it is, thanks for the fix |
| 20:34.41 | Primer | "used to" because I don't play wow at work any more |
| 20:34.47 | Primer | and I only have Linux at work |
| 20:35.06 | DarkAudit | Primer: I even emptied the addons and started over... same error |
| 20:35.14 | JoshBorke | ckknight: need help with my git pubkey :( |
| 20:35.22 | ckknight | JoshBorke: k, what's the issue? |
| 20:35.28 | JoshBorke | it just keeps denying me |
| 20:35.29 | Arrowmaster | DarkAudit: ckeck framexml.log and such, WoW in WINE is case sensitive isnt it? |
| 20:35.38 | JoshBorke | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 20:36.01 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i tried debugging using ssh but i couldn't get anywhere |
| 20:36.12 | JoshBorke | ckknight: i've tried 2 different rsa keys and a dss key |
| 20:36.21 | ckknight | okay, I'll check into it :-) |
| 20:36.43 | JoshBorke | i'm sure it's just me doing something wrong |
| 20:36.48 | JoshBorke | but i don't know what that is :D |
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| 20:38.05 | Primer | DarkAudit: just rsync your addons from windows |
| 20:38.12 | Primer | surely you have cygwin installed there? :) |
| 20:38.21 | Primer | mine even runs sshd.exe |
| 20:38.56 | ckknight | JoshBorke: trying svn or git or hg? |
| 20:38.56 | Primer | DarkAudit: running from windows vs. wine makes NO difference. What will make a difference is installing a -nolib addon (which curse now does) when you need the lib |
| 20:39.28 | ZealotOnAStick | ckknight, thank you, there we go. |
| 20:40.03 | Eimhin | um, if an embedded lib is throwing up a single error, but its embedded in multiple addons, whats the solution? |
| 20:40.07 | JoshBorke | ckknight: trying git |
| 20:40.16 | JoshBorke | ckknight: the mod is called dictator |
| 20:40.25 | ckknight | JoshBorke: can you `ssh git@git.curseforge.net` and tell me what you get? |
| 20:40.46 | JoshBorke | denied, pubkey |
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| 20:43.06 | fauxpas | so .. assuming i would let the curse client touch my addons (previously maintained by jwowupdater w/o externals) .. how many addons would it break? :P |
| 20:43.21 | DarkAudit | lots of errors like Error loading Interface\AddOns\SimpleSoulstone\Libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua |
| 20:43.23 | sylvanaar | start from scratch |
| 20:43.35 | fauxpas | meh, too lazy ;) |
| 20:43.36 | sylvanaar | save your addons directory |
| 20:43.43 | sylvanaar | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:43.48 | sylvanaar | with the curse client |
| 20:43.55 | mitchnull | do rogues have a "deadzone" regarding shoot? |
| 20:43.57 | sylvanaar | works perfectly |
| 20:44.06 | fauxpas | well, i'll see what continues to work tomorrow and what doesn't |
| 20:44.23 | ckknight | JoshBorke: (I PM'd you) |
| 20:45.15 | DarkAudit | I've got Ace2 and Ace3 installed, as well as other externals that came up as errors until I stopped getting error messages at login :) |
| 20:45.22 | eraserhead | Pitbull: is it possible to use borders around the UF for auro's instead of icons? I want to use the auro boarder colors for debuffs around the UF instead of icon. |
| 20:47.02 | Eimhin | sylvanaar: i did that but it has broken a few |
| 20:47.17 | Eimhin | somethings evidently arn't carrying the correct libs |
| 20:48.34 | DarkAudit | is there a suitable replacement for the old epeen pvp addon? The project was so dead it got pulled from being visible at files.wowace.com (but you could still d/l the last version) |
| 20:50.00 | eraserhead | Eimhin: thats what I did backed up my wtf and addon dir and started from scratch w/ curse client. So far everything is working. I then copied back my settings from the wtf/savedvariables folder. |
| 20:50.39 | eraserhead | DarkAudit: Yea I switched to VanosKoS |
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| 20:51.15 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03Shefki * r1750 Spark/Spark.lua: |
| 20:51.16 | Repo | - No longer Spark for energy ticks 3.x clients since it ticks constantly. |
| 20:51.24 | KriLL3 | it's broken in LK I've heard eraserhead |
| 20:52.59 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox * r12 Core.lua: |
| 20:53.00 | Repo | added Priority setting to allow you to give some Title a higher or lower priority (or disable them) |
| 20:53.25 | Repo | 10titleswapper: 03Netrox 040.4b * r13 : Tagging as 0.4b. |
| 20:54.55 | Eimhin | eraserhead: that is what i have done too. its all backed up. i just thought id move into getting these embedded libs sorted |
| 20:55.38 | Eimhin | things keep complaining about babble 2.2 (carto-stats most often) which i didnt even think was an up to date lib anyway |
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| 21:09.44 | KriLL3 | apple releasing new notebooks on the same day as wow gets a major patch, stupids. |
| 21:10.16 | ckknight | they are? |
| 21:10.21 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 21:10.24 | ckknight | is gonna get one |
| 21:10.31 | KriLL3 | isn't |
| 21:10.50 | KriLL3 | I'd get an Eee or similar if I ever wanted a laptop |
| 21:10.50 | EthanCentaurai | might if Apple pull their fingers out of their arses |
| 21:11.35 | Shefki | KriLL3: How is that stupid, only a small minority of Apple's customers are WoW players and even then I don't see the conflict. |
| 21:11.54 | ckknight | yea, I agree |
| 21:11.58 | Shefki | Besides we all know Blizzard is going to be like 2 hours late. |
| 21:12.02 | ckknight | lol. |
| 21:12.06 | ckknight | crosses fingers |
| 21:12.16 | EvilJohn- | heh |
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| 21:12.18 | Shefki | So it's actually good, bored WoW Players go to apple.com and spend money. |
| 21:12.25 | EvilJohn- | what's the over/under on server downtime tomorrow? |
| 21:12.29 | EvilJohn- | 15 hours? |
| 21:12.37 | Shefki | 12 hours. |
| 21:12.42 | Shefki | 2 am - 2 pm |
| 21:12.44 | EvilJohn- | that's the official word |
| 21:12.44 | Pneumatus | 2am till 2pm |
| 21:12.52 | EvilJohn- | I'm going with the over |
| 21:12.55 | KriLL3 | 2 to 14 |
| 21:12.57 | Shefki | I'm betting around 4 pm. |
| 21:13.04 | Pneumatus | im guessing 24 |
| 21:13.08 | EthanCentaurai | I spent £900-odd at apple.com 6 weeks ago and am still waiting for my mac to arrive... :( |
| 21:13.08 | Pneumatus | if its anything like 2.0 |
| 21:13.11 | EvilJohn- | 24! good lordo |
| 21:13.13 | KriLL3 | EU patch will go smoother thx to US testing it for us =P |
| 21:13.29 | stew_a | indeed :-) |
| 21:13.37 | Pneumatus | heh, like thats ever helped |
| 21:13.46 | Shefki | I don't think it'll take them 24 hours. 2.0 had hardware upgrades AND a patch. |
| 21:14.00 | EvilJohn- | yeah, 24 seems high to me |
| 21:14.01 | Shefki | I think they learned their lession not to double up like that. |
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| 21:14.15 | nevcairiel | 12 hours is already really long |
| 21:14.18 | nevcairiel | so we'll see |
| 21:14.31 | EvilJohn- | that's okay, I'll spend the downtime nuking addons I want to wean myself off of |
| 21:14.38 | Shefki | nevcairiel: They have database changes to apply to characters. |
| 21:14.47 | nevcairiel | a script |
| 21:14.49 | nevcairiel | *shrug |
| 21:14.57 | Shefki | Since the token system requies them to move those out of characters inventory. |
| 21:15.09 | Pneumatus | not to mention all the achievement triggers they need to check for |
| 21:15.11 | Shefki | Sure but it'll take a while to run on all those characters. |
| 21:15.17 | Shefki | Pneumatus: Good point. |
| 21:15.29 | nevcairiel | they already have an estimate on how long those run from testing with character moves onto PTR |
| 21:15.31 | EvilJohn- | yeah, the data migration is going to be pretty high |
| 21:15.37 | KriLL3 | Shefki: errm you need to click the items yourself to put em in there don't you? |
| 21:15.44 | Shefki | KriLL3: No |
| 21:15.47 | nevcairiel | not for token UI KriLL3 |
| 21:15.49 | Pneumatus | KriLL3: not anymore, they just dissapear when you char copy |
| 21:15.52 | nevcairiel | mounts and pets, yes |
| 21:15.53 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 21:16.04 | KriLL3 | I had to to that with tokens also before |
| 21:16.08 | Pneumatus | some mounts/companions dont have 'items' anymore and are auto-learned |
| 21:16.19 | Pneumatus | at least they were last time i copied my char about 3 days ago |
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| 21:16.25 | NeoTron | unless they do that part on first login |
| 21:16.39 | Shefki | That's a possiblity. |
| 21:16.52 | Pneumatus | thats gonna cause some serious server strain when everyone logs in... |
| 21:17.04 | EvilJohn- | yeah, that would be pretty difficult to pull off |
| 21:17.10 | NeoTron | true except it doesn't seem like a very complicated action |
| 21:17.26 | EvilJohn- | still need to convert the mount item to an item that casts a spell |
| 21:17.37 | Shefki | If I was the DBM I wouldn't want to do it like that. |
| 21:17.37 | NeoTron | do they change item ID's? |
| 21:17.46 | Shefki | You'd have data mixed with old style and new style forever. |
| 21:17.52 | Pneumatus | itemids never change, afaik |
| 21:18.00 | EvilJohn- | well they don't use a relational database for storing fast access data |
| 21:18.01 | EvilJohn- | too slow |
| 21:18.14 | Shefki | What do they use? |
| 21:18.25 | Shefki | I thought everything was in Oracle. |
| 21:18.50 | Pneumatus | cached tables id expect |
| 21:18.50 | Megalon | textfiles |
| 21:18.52 | EvilJohn- | my understand is the relational database is used to generate flat files for faster lookips |
| 21:18.54 | Megalon | huge ones! |
| 21:18.57 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=33809 vs http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33809 |
| 21:18.58 | EvilJohn- | won't be text, but flat files, yes |
| 21:19.05 | NeoTron | it's the same item so nothing to convert |
| 21:19.06 | Shefki | EvilJohn-: Well that makes sense. |
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| 21:19.32 | EvilJohn- | gamasutra.com has some good articles, in hte past, about how mmo databases have been developed |
| 21:19.39 | Shefki | I'd expect them to pull some data out of the database and put it in memory or cached on disk when characters are on. |
| 21:19.45 | NeoTron | since when is a flat file faster than a database? :P |
| 21:19.50 | EvilJohn- | since day 1 |
| 21:19.51 | NeoTron | sure in-memory caching but alas |
| 21:20.01 | clad|sleep | http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?file=/imagesfree/zBl93091.jpg |
| 21:20.33 | Shefki | lol |
| 21:24.01 | mitchnull | lua> nil + 1 |
| 21:24.01 | lua_bot | mitchnull: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 21:24.06 | mitchnull | bah :( |
| 21:24.14 | chiper | clad: farming rep? |
| 21:24.18 | Shefki | lua> tonumber(nil) + 1 |
| 21:24.18 | lua_bot | Shefki: luabot:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a nil value |
| 21:24.25 | [SW]Dodge | clad|sleep: that screen is win |
| 21:24.31 | clad|sleep | hehe not mine |
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| 21:24.35 | clad|sleep | was posted on my server's channel :P |
| 21:24.46 | [SW]Dodge | win is win ;) |
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| 21:25.02 | mitchnull | is it safe to add fields to frames? |
| 21:25.22 | Shefki | mitchnull: You mean add keys to the table? |
| 21:25.27 | mitchnull | yep |
| 21:25.30 | Shefki | mitchnull: Yes. |
| 21:25.42 | mitchnull | any chance I'll get a conflict? :) |
| 21:25.52 | Shefki | Depends on the frame. |
| 21:26.04 | mitchnull | my own simple frame |
| 21:26.09 | Shefki | Unlikely. |
| 21:26.25 | mitchnull | guess I should use some prefix though, right? |
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| 21:26.52 | mitchnull | like, frame.myaddonname_var |
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| 21:27.18 | Shefki | You can but you probably really shouldn't need to. |
| 21:27.44 | mitchnull | well, "var" would be "lastUpdate" |
| 21:27.59 | mitchnull | I imagine someone else might come up with the same name ;) |
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| 21:33.58 | Kalroth | Xinhuan: Did you tuck Omen for 3.0 away somewhere? |
| 21:34.24 | fewyn | hmmm |
| 21:34.59 | fewyn | Is there an up to date addon similar to auditor that actually works with ldb? (I can't edit settings when i use it in fubar2broker :() |
| 21:36.05 | NeoTron | fewyn: which display addon? |
| 21:36.14 | fewyn | fortress |
| 21:36.15 | NeoTron | I assume you're saying the menu doesn't work |
| 21:36.20 | fewyn | yea the menu hates me |
| 21:36.29 | fewyn | and i am rather liking my fortress |
| 21:37.18 | stew_a | is it possible to use .pkgmeta to create several differently assembled zips from one repo? |
| 21:38.25 | ckknight | no, stew_a |
| 21:38.30 | ckknight | stew_a: why do you want to do that? |
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| 21:39.54 | Zyndrome | oh well ... 46% on KJ tonight, and just one more night left of serious raiding |
| 21:39.58 | NeoTron | ok. it should work in Button Bin (my own fubar addon works fine afaik :) |
| 21:41.40 | Stanzilla | killed him yesterday :D |
| 21:43.13 | Antiarc | WHEN NORMAL FEMININE SPRAY ISN'T ENOUGH |
| 21:43.19 | Antiarc | http://walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-HealthAndBeauty.jsp?selection=listingDetails&page=hb&lang=null&assetId=11726&imageId=39726&suggestedItem=&priceType=1&page=null&departmentId=14&categoryId=193 |
| 21:44.05 | chiper | Antiarc: hahaha |
| 21:44.11 | Pneumatus | HAHAHAHA |
| 21:44.16 | Pneumatus | best image evar |
| 21:44.18 | Facktotum | does it come with a carrier? |
| 21:46.37 | fewyn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162526150&postId=111614716229&sid=2000#0 |
| 21:46.59 | Antiarc | http://walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-Baby.jsp?page=bby&selection=listingDetails&page=bby&lang=&assetId=25507&imageId=50215&suggestedItem=&priceType=null&page=null&departmentId=27&categoryId=139 |
| 21:47.06 | NeoTron | I prefer this one http://walmart.ca/wps-portal/storelocator/Canada-HealthAndBeauty.jsp?selection=listingDetails&page=hb&lang=null&assetId=11726&imageId=39727&suggestedItem=&priceType=1&page=null&departmentId=14&categoryId=193# |
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| 21:48.27 | Facktotum | fewyn: i don't get it |
| 21:48.57 | chiper | fewyn: an interesting posit, but in the long run does it really matter? |
| 21:49.05 | fewyn | Yes |
| 21:49.08 | fewyn | it totally matters |
| 21:49.18 | fewyn | I like it to be the same across the board |
| 21:49.30 | fewyn | so everyone says the same thing instead of every group using their own lingo for it |
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| 21:51.49 | Pneumatus | do people even consider the tiers anymore? |
| 21:51.53 | Pneumatus | i know i dont look past ilevel |
| 21:52.18 | Pneumatus | back when epics were rare, tiers made sense |
| 21:52.28 | Primer | rare is rare |
| 21:52.33 | Fisker- | ~wowalert |
| 21:52.33 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 21:52.34 | Primer | epics are epic |
| 21:53.03 | Pneumatus | and of course back then, the only source of epics was from the tier instances and top-rank pvp |
| 21:53.07 | Pneumatus | not every tom dick and harry |
| 21:53.13 | Primer | damn, 12 hour scheduled downtime? |
| 21:53.15 | Primer | wtf |
| 21:53.22 | Facktotum | to apply the patch maybe? |
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| 21:53.29 | Aens|Superiority | more than just a patch |
| 21:53.34 | ribbert | that's just the scheduled time too |
| 21:53.46 | ribbert | assuming everything goes smoothly and no major fuckups |
| 21:53.48 | fewyn | basically they're probably going to do some hardware upgrades |
| 21:53.51 | Aens|Superiority | they also gotta convert everyone's characters over to 3.0 |
| 21:53.51 | fewyn | and then patch the servers |
| 21:54.05 | Primer | I wonder what kind of hardware runs a realm |
| 21:54.16 | Aens|Superiority | a lot of new stuff to keep track of and stuff thats applying retroactively |
| 21:55.05 | Primer | what is being applied retroactively? |
| 21:55.37 | Aens|Superiority | achievements |
| 21:55.58 | Aens|Superiority | having an item from an end boss constitutes as completion of the achievement for end bosses |
| 21:56.03 | stew_a | you'd need some pretty big iron to run wow servers wouldnt you |
| 21:56.17 | Pneumatus | only from >=25man raids |
| 21:56.47 | Aens|Superiority | still, you gotta do that for every character on the server |
| 21:57.17 | Aens|Superiority | I remember the last time they did that and several characters on my server got corrupted. |
| 21:57.29 | Pneumatus | only for level 57+ |
| 21:57.33 | ribbert | anyone having problems with Parrot installed from CC? Release, Beta, Alpa, installs and shows up in the addon list, but the config panel is just completely blank and shows no sign of actually working. |
| 21:57.41 | Pneumatus | they dicked up the order of characters on the login page on 2.0 |
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| 21:58.09 | Facktotum | Primer: http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/it-netops-tech.html |
| 21:58.14 | Facktotum | if you want to find out |
| 21:58.19 | Primer | Facktotum: nice, thanks |
| 21:58.59 | Primer | hrmm, that's, a job thing... |
| 21:59.09 | Facktotum | i know :) |
| 21:59.22 | Facktotum | thats it the only way to find out |
| 21:59.55 | Primer | Linux and Oracle experience |
| 22:00.00 | Primer | in the other job |
| 22:00.05 | Primer | http://www.blizzard.com/us/jobopp/programmer-senior-server.html |
| 22:00.12 | Primer | heh, I have both of those! |
| 22:00.33 | Facktotum | its not a bad job working for blizzard |
| 22:00.37 | Facktotum | i think |
| 22:00.38 | Primer | exceptNetworking experience in TCP/IP and UDP protocols |
| 22:00.41 | Primer | err |
| 22:00.44 | Primer | s/except// |
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| 22:01.00 | Primer | purl, correct me! |
| 22:01.11 | NeoTron | Primer: you said err |
| 22:01.16 | Primer | bah |
| 22:01.39 | Primer | I got all that except the C++ |
| 22:01.52 | NeoTron | main issue working for Blizzard... it would seem they have had some very long hours - like the pre-weekend patches that broke the servers |
| 22:02.02 | NeoTron | Primer: the C++ might be quite important |
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| 22:02.30 | Primer | So that position seems to imply their servers run on Linux |
| 22:02.39 | NeoTron | they do |
| 22:02.53 | Primer | it makes sense |
| 22:03.07 | Elgren | hum |
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| 22:03.17 | Elgren | anyone except me have a problem with the latest CC client update= |
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| 22:04.58 | ribbert | client itself works fine.. trying to figure out why it installs a completely non-working version of Parrot though.. |
| 22:05.50 | Primer | ribbert: it probably picked the -nolib version |
| 22:06.00 | Primer | seems this is the "issue du jour" |
| 22:06.53 | Repo | 10chat-stamp: 03piranther * r36 / (2 files in 1 directory): ChatStamp: - minor cleanup |
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| 22:08.20 | Repo | 10chat-stamp: 03piranther 043.0.2-1.00 * r37 : - Tag as 3.0.2-1.00 |
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| 22:09.30 | sacarasc | cool, i like chatstamp |
| 22:09.43 | sacarasc | good to see it updated for 3.0 |
| 22:11.15 | Repo | 10chat-stamp: 03piranther * r38 : - fix for packaging |
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| 22:12.15 | Repo | 10chat-stamp: 03piranther 043.0.2-1.00 * r40 : Tag as 3.0.2-1.00 |
| 22:13.13 | KriLL3 | "The server at www.wowinterface.com is taking too long to respond." ohreeeeeeeely? |
| 22:14.15 | Aeyan | I'm surfing it just fine |
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| 22:15.28 | Aeyan | Apparently in Naxx 25, the tanks are out dps'ing the shadow priests |
| 22:15.30 | KriLL3 | I punch the keys and nothing happens |
| 22:15.31 | Aeyan | throws up the horns. |
| 22:15.47 | Tuller | its coding time! |
| 22:15.50 | NeoTron | Aeyan: seems unlikely unless the SP's don't aoe? |
| 22:16.04 | Tuller | and then its merging time! |
| 22:16.10 | Tuller | and then its "summarize all patch notes time!" |
| 22:16.15 | Aeyan | Talking about non AE situations |
| 22:16.19 | Repo | 10fu-bar_heal-bot-fu: 03piranther 043.0.2-1.00 * r36 : - Tag as 3.0.2-1.00 |
| 22:16.22 | Aeyan | Go, Tuller, go |
| 22:16.24 | ribbert | Aeyan: sauce? |
| 22:16.28 | Facktotum | eyes Tuller |
| 22:17.26 | nocts | Protip, don't run FRAPS + Vista + World of Warcraft in Windowed mode, your framerates will drop because it's recording WoW + Aero |
| 22:17.48 | Repo | 10fu-bar_heal-bot-fu: 03piranther * r37 : - fix svn properties |
| 22:17.51 | Stanzilla | Tuller: are the new combuctor options ready yet? :) |
| 22:18.18 | Tuller | that's what's left to do, essentially |
| 22:18.25 | CIA-48 | tekticles: 03Tekkub 07wrath * re1aef87 10/ (4 files): Add preview panel - http://is.gd/40rw |
| 22:18.30 | CIA-48 | tekticles: 03Tekkub 07wrath * r19fccd9 10/ (sample.lua tekKonfigAboutPanel.lua tekticles.toc): Add about panel - http://is.gd/40rx |
| 22:18.33 | CIA-48 | tekticles: 03Tekkub 07wrath * r52150ae 10/ tekticles.lua : Convert everything to Blizzy's new base fonts. I don't know why they made these... meh - http://is.gd/40ry |
| 22:18.47 | Facktotum | tuller is on a rampage |
| 22:18.51 | ribbert | Why not just turn off desktop compositing on the WoW shortcut? |
| 22:20.00 | NeoTron | nocts: I find that rather amusing |
| 22:20.01 | ribbert | I turn it off normally even though it runs pretty smooth with it on too.. |
| 22:20.06 | Arrowmaster | ribbert: blame the person that converted the parrot repo, they forgot to set it up so the packager would know what libraries to embed, thats why it doesnt work |
| 22:20.07 | Tuller | Stanzilla: http://i38.tinypic.com/166b47o.png |
| 22:20.12 | Tuller | just need to make that actually usable |
| 22:20.20 | nevcairiel | Tuller you didnt fix any version of Bongos for 3.0, right? |
| 22:20.35 | Tuller | nevcairiel: right, dominos is the path from now on |
| 22:20.37 | nocts | ribbert: Explain |
| 22:20.56 | nevcairiel | just preparing some post for my guild about which addons they have to replace =P |
| 22:21.06 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: <every single one lololol> |
| 22:21.28 | Stanzilla | Tuller: and if I check "Useable" the old usable tab on the right side will show up, right? |
| 22:21.32 | Tuller | right |
| 22:21.36 | Stanzilla | nice :D |
| 22:22.02 | Aeyan | Very shiny |
| 22:22.20 | Pneumatus | with a macro, is it possible to /target but only if a focus target doesnt exist? |
| 22:23.00 | Tuller | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.00 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: what your guildis are not using bartender4? ;P |
| 22:23.11 | nevcairiel | what do i care what they use |
| 22:23.21 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (n=s_m@a02-0602a.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 22:23.22 | Arrowmaster | use /stopmacro [target=focus,exists] |
| 22:23.31 | Arrowmaster | followed by the /target |
| 22:23.32 | [SW]Dodge | testslaves ^^ |
| 22:23.38 | Pneumatus | aha |
| 22:23.45 | Pneumatus | that would probably work Arrowmaster :) |
| 22:23.52 | thul | i want to be a slave :/ |
| 22:24.08 | mitchnull | where can I find docs about AceConfig? (inlining elements in AceConfigGui, conditionally disabling elements) |
| 22:24.27 | [SW]Dodge | mitchnull: http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3 |
| 22:24.37 | mitchnull | thanks |
| 22:24.59 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r19 ZOMGBuffs_Blessings/ZOMGBuffs_Blessings.lua: |
| 22:24.59 | Repo | ZOMGBuffs: Added appropriate level restrictions to Paladin reagent auto-purchase. |
| 22:25.24 | Pneumatus | hmm Arrowmaster, that wouldn't achieve what i want without 2 keypresses |
| 22:25.34 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 22:26.23 | Pneumatus | i want to target a specific named mob if i've got no focus, set focus if i have no focus, then cast a spell on the focus target |
| 22:26.41 | Pneumatus | if i do have focus, i dont want to target the mob, but i still want to cast the spell |
| 22:26.53 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1649 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 22:26.56 | Arrowmaster | you can do that with one |
| 22:27.46 | Pneumatus | if i stopmacro before the /target, it will stop me casting a spell also tho |
| 22:27.59 | Arrowmaster | so cast the spell before the /stopmacro |
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| 22:28.10 | Elgren | hello guys |
| 22:28.20 | Elgren | anyone except me have a problem with updating curse client? |
| 22:28.53 | Facktotum | Elgren: what is your problem? |
| 22:29.07 | Elgren | It starts to update |
| 22:29.30 | Elgren | and then when the bar reaches 100 |
| 22:29.33 | Elgren | nothing happens |
| 22:29.56 | Elgren | I got the message saying: "Waiting for curse client to exit. Press cancel to abort the update." |
| 22:30.06 | Facktotum | you mean scanning your addons. the green bar at the bottom |
| 22:30.07 | Elgren | And it never finishes. Scanner at bottom right is at 100% |
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| 22:30.12 | Elgren | yeah |
| 22:30.17 | Elgren | well |
| 22:30.21 | Elgren | when I start up CC |
| 22:30.31 | Elgren | it says "There is a update available, update curse client?" |
| 22:30.38 | Elgren | I press ok, and then this starts |
| 22:30.54 | Facktotum | what version are you using? |
| 22:31.18 | Elgren | let me check |
| 22:31.40 | Elgren | changelog says |
| 22:31.40 | Elgren | Version 2.0.0 |
| 22:31.40 | Elgren | A brand new client has been released! |
| 22:32.01 | Elgren | and I dont seem to be able to start a new application when I canceled the frozen one |
| 22:32.43 | Elgren | I shut down the process now |
| 22:32.46 | [SW]Dodge | Elgren: uninstall CC and get http://static.curseforge.net/client/CurseSetup-2.0.0.14.exe |
| 22:32.47 | Elgren | trying again |
| 22:33.09 | Elgren | ok here we go |
| 22:33.14 | Elgren | 1 sec I try this one more time dodge |
| 22:33.20 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
| 22:33.27 | Elgren | im on 2.0.0.13 |
| 22:33.33 | [SW]Dodge | if reinstalling does not work then bug Kolie :D |
| 22:33.40 | Elgren | it says there is a update, install it? yes/no |
| 22:33.53 | [SW]Dodge | Elgren: click "maybe" |
| 22:33.59 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 22:34.01 | Elgren | hehe |
| 22:34.05 | Elgren | I clicked no and it shut down |
| 22:34.32 | Elgren | I click yes now |
| 22:34.59 | Elgren | seems to work now when I let the updater scan my adons befoure I clicked yes |
| 22:35.21 | Elgren | ye it did |
| 22:35.22 | Elgren | nice |
| 22:35.26 | Elgren | 2.0.0.14 |
| 22:35.26 | Elgren | :D |
| 22:35.41 | Elgren | just bugged when I had a adon scan running while I tryed to update the client I guess |
| 22:35.59 | fauxpas | heh, so i just started the new curse client and it began installing addons.. so i right-clicked the systray symbol, clicked on exit and it crashed :P |
| 22:36.14 | Elgren | oh man |
| 22:36.20 | Elgren | it began installing adons? |
| 22:36.22 | fauxpas | it'd be cool if _I_ would tell the client when to install addons |
| 22:36.23 | fauxpas | yeah |
| 22:36.29 | Elgren | hahaha |
| 22:36.39 | Elgren | thats worse then my problem. |
| 22:37.00 | Elgren | Ill let you address the geniuses for this. and I step back and enjoy my working client. |
| 22:37.43 | Elgren | I dont think they will have a easy time solving this tho. the client actually installing adons by itself? |
| 22:38.17 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1650 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 22:38.29 | Arrowmaster | it was probaly just the wowdb addon |
| 22:38.34 | fauxpas | nope |
| 22:38.38 | fauxpas | passloot, grid and stuff |
| 22:39.11 | fauxpas | i get the box that says processing new addons (yada yada yada) |
| 22:39.21 | fauxpas | and sometimes it says "installing addon xyz" |
| 22:39.30 | fauxpas | didn't do that before |
| 22:41.40 | KriLL3 | CreateFrame(): Couldn't find inherited node "SecureStateHeaderTemplate" ... BT4 just vanished |
| 22:41.53 | Facktotum | again are you using 2.0.0.14? |
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| 22:42.36 | fauxpas | yup |
| 22:42.36 | KriLL3 | open the config, press Bar 1 and it says: Interface\Addons\Bartender4\actionBar\Options.lua.28: Invalid bar id in otions table. (1) |
| 22:42.56 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: i know whats wrong, and i wont tell you! |
| 22:42.58 | fauxpas | well, at least my interface seems to be fine :P |
| 22:43.22 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: fair enough |
| 22:43.36 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: but srsly, you set CC to "Beta", and it downloaded the WotLK Beta to your 2.4.3 client |
| 22:43.38 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I deleted the old install and it's saved vars, didn't help :( |
| 22:43.55 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: this is a manual install from wowace to the beta client |
| 22:44.07 | nevcairiel | when you choose the wrong version! |
| 22:44.08 | KriLL3 | 4.0.1 |
| 22:44.16 | Kolie | Hmm? |
| 22:44.17 | nevcairiel | get 4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2 :P |
| 22:44.21 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r49 ClassLoot.lua: ClassLoot: |
| 22:44.22 | Repo | - Fix a bug with items dropping in multiple instances, and by same-named bosses |
| 22:44.22 | KriLL3 | where? |
| 22:44.22 | Repo | - More code cleanup |
| 22:44.28 | nevcairiel | from wowace? :) |
| 22:44.46 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/projects/bartender4/files/ |
| 22:45.00 | KriLL3 | can't |
| 22:45.10 | KriLL3 | "download link" goes to curse |
| 22:45.13 | Shefki | Today is probably a very bad day to be updating addons expecting them to work on live. |
| 22:45.21 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: login |
| 22:45.21 | nevcairiel | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bartender4.aspx |
| 22:45.22 | Facktotum | http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/118/816/Bartender4-4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2.zip |
| 22:45.23 | ckknight | KriLL3: log in |
| 22:45.29 | nevcairiel | there is also the beta on curse |
| 22:45.30 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 22:46.00 | KriLL3 | didn't have to log in to download files before |
| 22:46.11 | Arrowmaster | you do now |
| 22:46.16 | Elgren | I need help with something again :) |
| 22:46.30 | Arrowmaster | inorder to send those that have no reason to be on wowace to curse |
| 22:46.30 | Elgren | Im trying to copy a font from my windows/fonts folder into my wow/fonts folder |
| 22:46.31 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: its to stop evil people taking down wowace on patch day |
| 22:46.36 | Elgren | but it wont let me |
| 22:46.53 | nevcairiel | they should only take down curse :D |
| 22:47.08 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I'm not evil, just misunderstood |
| 22:47.16 | Elgren | Im trying to copy a font from my windows/fonts folder into my wow/fonts folder. Fonts in my windows folder is in some weird format. and when I right click and look in properties they have other file names. |
| 22:47.25 | Elgren | I search for that filename and cant find it on my disc |
| 22:47.32 | Elgren | anyone know what this is? Im on vista |
| 22:47.43 | Arrowmaster | Elgren: you should still be able to copy it |
| 22:47.49 | Elgren | no I cant |
| 22:47.50 | Arrowmaster | oh vista |
| 22:47.51 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 22:47.55 | Arrowmaster | i no nothing about vista |
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| 22:48.06 | Arrowmaster | except that ill never install it on my own computer |
| 22:48.28 | Elgren | I have a file called Narkisism in my windows/fonts |
| 22:48.36 | Elgren | i right click it and I see nrkis.ttf |
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| 22:48.47 | Elgren | I search my disc for nrkis.ttf, and its not found |
| 22:48.49 | Elgren | whats going on? |
| 22:49.21 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: can you copy your savedvars from live bt4 to beta bt4 without scat and ventilation equipment interacting? |
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| 22:50.49 | Facktotum | Elgren: are you logged in as administrator? |
| 22:52.43 | Elgren | yes |
| 22:52.44 | Elgren | I am |
| 22:53.02 | Elgren | there's soemthing weird. All my fonts are listen in some weird format |
| 22:53.10 | Elgren | they have no file sufix |
| 22:53.30 | Elgren | it says Narkisism, and has no sufix and a weird icon |
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| 22:53.46 | Elgren | all my fonts are like this. When I look in properties it says nrkis.ttf |
| 22:53.47 | *** join/#wowace hiflyer (n=hiflyer@spaced.hierb.as) |
| 22:53.51 | Elgren | but that file is not found on my disc |
| 22:55.09 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 040.0.17b * e37606c /: [new tag] fixed prioritys not saving between sessions |
| 22:55.09 | Elgren | I need the file so that I can use it in my wow/fonts folder :( |
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| 22:55.19 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * 0.0.17b / (11 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] fixed prioritys not saving between sessions |
| 22:56.06 | Facktotum | get them from the internet |
| 22:56.31 | Facktotum | i suggest using mymedia folder dont throw fonts in your wow/fonts folder |
| 22:56.50 | DarkAudit | hmm... is the updated version of Telented using 3.0.2 code that isn't in the live game yet? |
| 22:57.19 | Elgren | mymedia folder? |
| 22:57.21 | DarkAudit | Talented* |
| 22:57.24 | Elgren | in wow/.. ? |
| 22:57.58 | Facktotum | DarkAudit: http://www.wowace.com/projects/talented/files/ |
| 22:58.04 | Facktotum | Elgren: sharemedia |
| 22:58.34 | Repo | 10librangecheck-2-0: 03mitch0 07IsItemInRange * r15 LibRangeCheck-2.0/LibRangeCheck-2.0.lua: added dead-zone check |
| 22:59.41 | Yssaril | anyone know if you can push tags and commits at the same time with git? |
| 22:59.44 | DarkAudit | Facktotum: there's an error in ui/base.lua that looks to my novice eyes that it's using 3.0.2 code exclusively, where the old version did a version check and used different code for 2.4 |
| 22:59.55 | Elgren | Facktotum yea i know |
| 23:00.10 | Elgren | but I want to change the base fonts of the game |
| 23:01.03 | Facktotum | Elgren: http://www.vranx.com/index.htm |
| 23:01.07 | Facktotum | changing fonts section |
| 23:01.28 | Facktotum | DarkAudit: if you want to use it on live you need a different version |
| 23:01.59 | Elgren | yes |
| 23:02.02 | Elgren | thats what im doing |
| 23:02.07 | Elgren | thats what I need the font file for |
| 23:02.29 | DarkAudit | Facktotum: I don't plan on playing with templates tonight, so I can just turn it off untill tomorrow evening :) |
| 23:02.58 | Facktotum | that works as well |
| 23:04.36 | KriLL3 | I'm atm using the beta as an addon sandbox to piece together a working UI for patch day =P |
| 23:05.01 | KriLL3 | too bad it seems I'll have to skip pitbull, that energy tick is maddening |
| 23:06.05 | Shefki | Bar is done, ckk needs to do the text. |
| 23:06.11 | KriLL3 | perhaps I could make the energy bar transparent and position the default character pane beneath and scale it so the default energy bar fit in the hole =P |
| 23:06.14 | KriLL3 | kk :) |
| 23:06.22 | Facktotum | there you go poke ckk |
| 23:06.31 | Shefki | And before you ask no you can't get smooth updating on the druid mana bar. |
| 23:06.43 | KriLL3 | text is the most important for me, my mind sends signals to my fingers when it sees it go over 30, 35, 38, 42 etc :> |
| 23:06.49 | Shefki | Game predicts the mana regen and it only bothers to do it for the current power type. |
| 23:06.56 | KriLL3 | ckknight: poke |
| 23:07.14 | ckknight | waves |
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| 23:07.43 | KriLL3 | smooth energy text before patch? phulease? :> |
| 23:07.50 | KriLL3 | with whipped cream and a cherry ontop! |
| 23:08.03 | ckknight | I'm not into sweets |
| 23:08.10 | KriLL3 | :| |
| 23:08.12 | ckknight | you'll have to suffice with giving me a blowjob |
| 23:08.19 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 06wrath * r97 SimpleMD.lua: |
| 23:08.19 | KriLL3 | ... no thx |
| 23:08.19 | Repo | SimpleMD: make sure readiness messages don't fire if MD was not on CD when readiness was used |
| 23:08.42 | KriLL3 | I'd happily provide sexual services if we weren't both dudes... |
| 23:08.53 | ckknight | fair enough, then |
| 23:08.59 | ckknight | too bad I'm not gay, or at least bi |
| 23:09.02 | ckknight | it'd make things easier |
| 23:09.05 | ckknight | lousy straightdom |
| 23:09.14 | KriLL3 | ^^ |
| 23:09.18 | Facktotum | i have a sister ckk |
| 23:09.25 | Facktotum | does that suffice you? |
| 23:09.31 | KriLL3 | my sister is married unfortunately |
| 23:10.08 | Killmore | anyone else have problem with pitbull/parrot since today update with curse client ? :( |
| 23:10.19 | KriLL3 | why does EBB throw and error with JebusMail mentioned in the error?... |
| 23:10.25 | KriLL3 | Killmore: duh |
| 23:10.32 | KriLL3 | you've updated to the beta version most likely |
| 23:10.33 | Shefki | Killmore: What sort of problem? |
| 23:11.10 | Killmore | lot of errors, where I can paste them ? |
| 23:11.25 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins * r9 / (3 files in 1 directory): Core Commit |
| 23:11.28 | Shefki | ace.pastey.ne |
| 23:11.31 | Shefki | net* |
| 23:11.38 | KriLL3 | it's in the header |
| 23:11.46 | thul | http://fc64.deviantart.com/fs36/i/2008/287/4/8/Industrial_rainbow_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- picture of the day |
| 23:12.08 | NeoTron | http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en wtf is today the paddington bear day or something? :P |
| 23:12.16 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins 04v1.0b * r10 : Tagging as v1.0b. |
| 23:12.33 | KriLL3 | I love having more than one monitor, I got live on one screen, beta on the other so I can setup my UI the same as it was |
| 23:12.47 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: ? |
| 23:12.48 | NeoTron | "He first appeared on 13 October 1958" ... aha |
| 23:12.53 | NeoTron | google's logo |
| 23:12.55 | NeoTron | click on it |
| 23:13.04 | KriLL3 | nada |
| 23:13.16 | NeoTron | weird |
| 23:13.18 | KriLL3 | it's not a link for me |
| 23:13.22 | mitchnull | is there a deep-table-copy function in Ace3? |
| 23:13.31 | Killmore | Shefki: http://ace.pastey.net/98195 I just paste the first 4 |
| 23:13.56 | NeoTron | http://www.google.com/logos/paddington50th.gif |
| 23:14.01 | NeoTron | http://www.google.com/search?q=paddington+bear&hl=en&ct=paddington50th&oi=ddle |
| 23:14.15 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: check the title text for the image on the main page |
| 23:14.16 | Shefki | Killmore: Looks like something is messed up with your LibRock. |
| 23:14.21 | Arrowmaster | says exactly what it is |
| 23:14.52 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: so does the name of the image. ;-) |
| 23:14.55 | Archarodim | does someone knows the different causes of a stackoverflow when using metatables? |
| 23:15.01 | Kilroo | Hm. |
| 23:15.07 | KriLL3 | well it's certainly a special day today, QD has some PvP activity most days, but you can generally get things done, there must be a full moon out today, everyone and their grandmother was killing each other |
| 23:15.30 | Kilroo | The thread on WoWI about WoWMatrix is an interesting read. |
| 23:15.34 | KriLL3 | I'm a feral drood in S4 so I had a fun time |
| 23:16.07 | KriLL3 | Kilroo: how much discussion is needed about a blatant parasite? |
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| 23:16.33 | KriLL3 | does anyone know if fubar and it's default plugins work in LK yet? |
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| 23:16.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
| 23:17.49 | Shefki | KriLL3: I've been using fubar for a while. |
| 23:17.49 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: yet? its worked the entire beta |
| 23:17.56 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r151 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 23:17.56 | Repo | Update current health and power for player and pet (if exists) every 0.05 seconds. |
| 23:18.01 | ckknight | all done |
| 23:18.03 | Shefki | It mostly works. Has some weird issues with LOD stuff. |
| 23:18.10 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: I get a slew of errors and plugins swapping tooltips/dropdowns |
| 23:18.16 | Killmore | Shefki: dont understand, I tried to delete my /pitbull and /parrot folder and redownload both of them with curse client.. samething :( |
| 23:18.21 | KriLL3 | ckknight: you da man! |
| 23:18.35 | Shefki | Killmore: This is live? |
| 23:18.40 | ckknight | now test it, KriLL3 |
| 23:18.43 | Killmore | Shefki: yes |
| 23:18.49 | KriLL3 | ckknight: I don't see it on ace yet |
| 23:18.56 | ckknight | wait a minute. |
| 23:19.06 | KriLL3 | slow spider is slow |
| 23:19.10 | Killmore | Shefki: install type is at: release |
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| 23:19.56 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins 06lib-spell-engb * r9 / (3 files in 1 directory): English dictionary commit |
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| 23:20.18 | Shefki | Killmore: I'm really not sure what the problem is. Possibly one of the addons has a messed up copy of LibRock which is used by those addons. |
| 23:21.01 | Killmore | Shefki: ok |
| 23:21.38 | Shefki | Best thing I can suggest atm is to go back to an older version. There's really nothing important changing for live today anyway. The udpates are getting ready for 3.0.2 tomorrow. |
| 23:21.44 | |Yssaril| | Killmore: make sur that its not grabbing the -nolib file |
| 23:22.09 | DarkAudit | aw crap! patch day is tomorrow and Arch hits me with a kernel update too :p |
| 23:22.11 | Killmore | |Yssaril|: I checked already, all libs are in the /Parrot/Libs folder |
| 23:22.24 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins 06lib-spell-engb 04v1.0b * r10 : Tagging as v1.0b. |
| 23:22.29 | Arrowmaster | parrot has libs now? |
| 23:22.32 | Kilroo | Krill3: screw you too. :) I find it interesting mostly as a study in people completely missing each other's points, not as information about the program itself. |
| 23:23.56 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: is it possible to turn off the snapping in BT4 for 3.0.2 or otherwise tweak bar's positions a few pixels? all my bars are snapping a couple of pixels off :( |
| 23:24.05 | Elgren | Guys I cant get pitbull to work |
| 23:24.13 | Elgren | geting alot of error messages with some LibRock library |
| 23:24.41 | Killmore | Elgren: http://ace.pastey.net/98195 this kind of error ? |
| 23:25.04 | Elgren | yes |
| 23:25.14 | Elgren | 59 errors in bugsack when I login lol |
| 23:25.19 | Elgren | I disable pitbull and I get 0 |
| 23:25.38 | Arrowmaster | so install LibRock-1.0 standalone |
| 23:25.42 | Arrowmaster | see if that fixes it |
| 23:26.02 | Elgren | where is a new version of it? |
| 23:26.08 | Shefki | Wonder what's messed up with LibRock atm. |
| 23:26.19 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/projects/librock-1-0 |
| 23:26.28 | Arrowmaster | its librock, its always been buggy |
| 23:26.46 | Arrowmaster | i dont think we ever figured out what the cause of that conflict between librock and acelibrary was |
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| 23:27.06 | Chosi | moo |
| 23:27.24 | Chosi | my pitbull is having weird issues with libdogtag |
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| 23:27.24 | Chosi | LibDogTag-3.0.90203: Error with code "[Status or -MissingHP:Hide(0)]" (Base;Unit). ...face\AddOns\LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Health.lua line 38: |
| 23:27.24 | Chosi | attempt to call method 'GetUnitCurrentHP' (a nil value) |
| 23:27.32 | Facktotum | lol |
| 23:27.34 | Elgren | chead |
| 23:27.37 | Elgren | Chosi |
| 23:27.37 | Elgren | no |
| 23:27.40 | Facktotum | here comes the cavalary |
| 23:27.42 | Elgren | thats libmobhealth |
| 23:27.48 | Chosi | ah uh ok |
| 23:27.49 | Chosi | :> |
| 23:27.50 | Facktotum | Chosi: dont post code in the channel |
| 23:27.57 | Elgren | Chosi u need fixed libmobhealth library |
| 23:28.03 | Shefki | Chosi: Remove LibMobHealth. |
| 23:28.08 | Facktotum | actually delete that |
| 23:28.10 | stew_a | if i want to package some files from an external into the root of my addon package, how do i do that in pkgmeta without screwing the packager |
| 23:28.12 | Facktotum | its not needed anymore |
| 23:28.16 | Arrowmaster | i just bumped the lastest file for LibRock-1.0 to beta so people should get it over the older one |
| 23:28.18 | Shefki | No such thing, LibMobHealth is obsolete. |
| 23:28.36 | Elgren | Chosi |
| 23:28.41 | Elgren | you have startip? |
| 23:28.50 | Elgren | cowtip? or some mod u can find a libmobhealth in? |
| 23:28.52 | Arrowmaster | stew_a: like what? |
| 23:28.54 | Chosi | did you guys get your patch already? |
| 23:29.01 | Elgren | Chosi |
| 23:29.11 | Chosi | i'm not on 3.0.2 yet |
| 23:29.12 | Chosi | :P |
| 23:29.14 | Elgren | search in ur folder for mods that have libmobhealth |
| 23:29.17 | Elgren | disable them |
| 23:29.21 | Elgren | login with pitbull on |
| 23:29.24 | Elgren | and see if it works |
| 23:29.31 | Chosi | libmobhealth-4.0 is installed |
| 23:29.43 | Arrowmaster | Chosi: doesnt matter, you dont NEED mobhealth so just remove it early |
| 23:29.45 | Chosi | well and mobhealth itself |
| 23:29.48 | Chosi | alright |
| 23:29.59 | stew_a | Arrowmaster: well i tried putting / and . as the directory to put the externals in but the svn pre-commit hook rejected those, so i tried to tell it to put 2 specific files in the root of the package and the packager threw a spazz because i was referencing files not directories |
| 23:30.25 | Arrowmaster | stew_a: you cant do files i dont think, directories only |
| 23:30.32 | stew_a | meh |
| 23:30.42 | Arrowmaster | well maybe |
| 23:30.45 | stew_a | oh well /workaround :-) |
| 23:30.52 | Arrowmaster | but you deffently need to put everything into a directory |
| 23:31.17 | Arrowmaster | you might be able to reference a file directly as the external though |
| 23:31.38 | stew_a | i tried that, packager wouldnt do it. gave me a zip without externals |
| 23:31.54 | stew_a | i'll just rearrange the directory structure a little |
| 23:32.09 | Chosi | okay deleted everything mobhealth releaded, lib or not, and it's gone |
| 23:32.10 | Chosi | thanks |
| 23:32.59 | Chompers | xp requirements have been lowered for 60-70 right? |
| 23:32.59 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins 06lib-spell-engb * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): pkgmeta tweak |
| 23:33.10 | Facktotum | Chompers: its a joke now |
| 23:33.15 | Chompers | sweet |
| 23:33.24 | Chompers | i did 25 quests today, ready to hand in |
| 23:33.57 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins 06lib-spell-engb 04v1.01b * r12 : Tagging as v1.01b. |
| 23:35.13 | Chompers | how much of a difference is the xp? |
| 23:35.16 | Killmore | Elgren: working ? |
| 23:35.40 | Chompers | are we talking 5% or something huge like 40% |
| 23:36.44 | KriLL3 | can you make a macro that does 2 things, which depends on your current druid form? |
| 23:36.45 | Chompers | aah, found a website saying 30% |
| 23:36.54 | Wobin | ... |
| 23:36.57 | Wobin | that's ridiculous |
| 23:37.16 | KriLL3 | trying to put frenzied regen and cower on one button but don't want to dedicate a whole bar to paging it |
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| 23:39.33 | NeoTron | Chompers: only 30%? hmm |
| 23:39.36 | NeoTron | I thought it was more than that |
| 23:39.54 | Wobin | KriLL3: You can depends on stance, no? |
| 23:39.56 | Facktotum | on my druid i did 60 to 70 in 4 days |
| 23:40.12 | Wobin | oh god, why am I speaking lolcat? |
| 23:40.13 | Facktotum | ended at 70 in the first quests of BEM |
| 23:40.33 | KriLL3 | Wobin: huh? |
| 23:40.52 | Repo | 10lib-spell: 0301satkins 04v0.1alpha * r11 : Tagging as v0.1alpha. |
| 23:40.58 | Wobin | "KriLL3: You can depends on stance, no?" |
| 23:41.14 | KriLL3 | didn't make more sense the second time |
| 23:41.16 | Wobin | stance/form |
| 23:41.19 | Wobin | whatever thingie |
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| 23:42.14 | NeoTron | Facktotum: hmm took me 5d9h or so to level my DK from 55-80 on beta |
| 23:42.40 | NeoTron | and that wasn't exactly optimal leveling due to server problems, just hanging around talking, sitting in instances waiting for a group during crash days etc |
| 23:42.58 | Facktotum | i slacked neo |
| 23:44.04 | NeoTron | I skipped terokkar |
| 23:44.07 | NeoTron | which slowed me down |
| 23:44.21 | Facktotum | terrokar is a lot of quests actually |
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| 23:45.14 | Facktotum | i leveled on beta to 80 when the xp was still a nightmare |
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| 23:48.22 | Elgren | guys |
| 23:48.31 | Elgren | anyone know where I set border to frames in pitbull? |
| 23:48.52 | Elgren | Im on global setings > colors, and I see border color here? |
| 23:48.57 | Elgren | and background color |
| 23:49.04 | Elgren | where do I even set a border? anyone know? |
| 23:51.15 | Repo | 10cy-circled_vol-gold: 03StormFX * r31 cyCircled_VolGold.toc: cyCircled_VolGold: |
| 23:51.16 | Repo | - ToC update. |
| 23:51.39 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r67 / (2 files in 1 directory): InventoryOnPar: - |
| 23:51.40 | Repo | v11.01 - Fixed Options frame bug with minutes dropdown - thanks to Dridzt for fix |
| 23:52.11 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles 04v11.01 * r68 : InventoryOnPar: - |
| 23:52.12 | Repo | Release v11.01 to Curse.com |
| 23:52.18 | Facktotum | Elgre: Pitbull>Player>Other |
| 23:52.23 | Facktotum | first option is border |
| 23:52.53 | Repo | 10cy-circled_vol-gold: 03StormFX 043.0.2 * r32 : Tagging as 3.0.2. |
| 23:54.00 | Repo | 10cy-circled_onyx: 03StormFX * r34 cyCircled_Onyx.toc: cyCircled_Onyx: |
| 23:54.01 | Repo | - ToC update. |
| 23:54.06 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: got a bug to report, bt4 "4.1.0-WotLK-Beta2" unlock and then lock the bars again and all bars you have set to "Always hide" shows up, you need to double click that option to hide em again |
| 23:54.14 | KriLL3 | and it resets fadeout settings |
| 23:54.29 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03Shefki * r1751 HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: |
| 23:54.30 | Repo | - Update the healthbar on a more regular basis to match DogTag's timing. |
| 23:55.16 | Shefki | KriLL3: Bar updating should be exactly what you expect now. Even the Spark mod is updated. :) |
| 23:55.28 | Elgren | Facktotum ty sir |
| 23:55.39 | KriLL3 | Shefki: yeah just about to try 1750 |
| 23:56.21 | Shefki | KriLL3: Get 1751, you'll be sure to have the latest DogTag then. |
| 23:56.27 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 23:57.13 | Repo | 10cy-circled_onyx: 03StormFX 043.0.2 * r35 : Tagging as 3.0.2. |
| 23:57.40 | KriLL3 | nice, got it next to the default player frame, it's a mirror image :D |
| 23:57.50 | Shefki | Incidentally, a side effect of removing the energy spark is that you now see the FSR spark from shifting to cat. |
| 23:57.55 | KriLL3 | bye bye default player frame |
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| 23:58.06 | KriLL3 | FSR? |
| 23:58.14 | Shefki | Five Second Rule |
| 23:58.24 | KriLL3 | ?.. |
| 23:58.44 | Shefki | Mana Regen rate changes depend on if it's been 5 seconds since you last cast a spell. |
| 23:58.45 | KriLL3 | is that the one about dropping food on the floor? |
| 23:58.51 | KriLL3 | ah, right |
| 23:59.11 | Shefki | The spark mod used to only show that when Mana was your powerbar. |
| 23:59.16 | KriLL3 | mana gain in feral forms still ticks btw =P |
| 23:59.18 | Shefki | Becuase the energy spark would take over. |
| 23:59.36 | Shefki | KriLL3: Game doesn't give us the data outside of ticks. |
| 23:59.40 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 23:59.46 | Shefki | KriLL3: That's just gonna be the way it is. |
| 23:59.58 | KriLL3 | yeah it's nothing I need, just inconsistet |
