| 00:00.10 | elite3vil | or you can go Nev's way. We wanted to kill Moroes for Mongoose. |
| 00:00.41 | Jygga | the first room beeing the one straight ahead when heading up the stairs right? |
| 00:00.51 | Jygga | i have to dodge some mobs while i go there ... ^^ |
| 00:01.24 | Camci | http://emuu.myminicity.com/ |
| 00:01.32 | Camci | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
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| 00:07.08 | Repo | 10bug-grabber: 03Arrowmaster * r137 BugGrabber.lua: |
| 00:07.08 | Repo | Fix so CBH is setup before an error happens so that its available for other addons to register to |
| 00:07.16 | Arrowmaster | major doh |
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| 00:08.06 | Xinhuan | damn, vharr didn't get to yell at u :D |
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| 00:09.34 | Arrowmaster | svn log -v -r 151 svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/itembonuslib/mainline/trunk |
| 00:09.38 | Arrowmaster | ^^^^^ |
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| 00:11.22 | Arrowmaster | can we atleast have some sorta approval process before people are allowed to commit? |
| 00:11.38 | Xinhuan | i'm not looking at it, what is it |
| 00:11.44 | Xinhuan | fisheye would have been helpful |
| 00:11.53 | Arrowmaster | just run that command |
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| 00:16.06 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 00:17.58 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: once we deploy our nondjango clone, we're gonna spend a week bugfixing and fixing things like that, i.e. not new projects and not taking on anything too big |
| 00:18.20 | Jygga | why would you do a nondjango clone? Oo |
| 00:18.24 | Jygga | <3 django! |
| 00:18.24 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: did you look at that log too? |
| 00:18.39 | Arrowmaster | django fails |
| 00:18.45 | Jygga | at which level? |
| 00:18.50 | Arrowmaster | all |
| 00:18.51 | ckknight | django has been our bottleneck. |
| 00:18.54 | ckknight | specifically the ORM |
| 00:19.05 | ckknight | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/repositories/nondjango/ btw |
| 00:20.43 | rbarreiros | what's curse on now ? |
| 00:20.43 | Jygga | hm we are currently developing a site with django ... kinda evolved right now .. hope we dont run into the same problems ~.~ |
| 00:21.20 | rbarreiros | django tends to be slow proportionally to the site size/views per day from my small ammount of experience |
| 00:21.25 | rbarreiros | with it* |
| 00:22.13 | nevcairiel | curse uses evil asp.net |
| 00:22.33 | rbarreiros | any special reason ? |
| 00:23.08 | Arrowmaster | hmm i hope i dont have anything left using Metrognome |
| 00:23.10 | Kody- | Well |
| 00:23.12 | magma | http://adam.gomaa.us/blog/the-django-orm-problem/ |
| 00:23.15 | magma | interesting =/ |
| 00:23.26 | Kody- | django curse fell apart on wow patch days after 6 million pageviews |
| 00:23.31 | Arrowmaster | i just deleted it while working on finally rechecking out everything and cant find it now |
| 00:23.44 | Kody- | "evil asp.net" curse stayed up almost the entire day (few bandwidth issues) through 26 million :P |
| 00:24.03 | Arrowmaster | its still evil |
| 00:24.18 | rbarreiros | i understand the premise of 'it it's working good don't mess with it' but tried other alternatives ? |
| 00:24.32 | kadrahil | just hit 60 on my second hunter |
| 00:24.34 | kadrahil | in 2 days 24 hours |
| 00:24.45 | magma | hrm |
| 00:24.47 | Arrowmaster | thats what theyre doing, trying to use other alternatives |
| 00:24.48 | magma | sounds like 3 days to me |
| 00:24.49 | Kody- | our director of technology is a .net developer, and he was confident it could withstand wow patches |
| 00:24.55 | rbarreiros | i've been working with symfony for the last couple of years and have no problems with some sites on 1mil views/day |
| 00:24.59 | kadrahil | err |
| 00:25.02 | kadrahil | 2 days 23 hours |
| 00:25.03 | kadrahil | my bad :D |
| 00:25.14 | Kody- | we looked at other alternatives though yeah |
| 00:26.55 | rbarreiros | i'm assuming you have a web farm ? wouldn't an apache/php solution decrease the load/per web server on the farm vs windows ? windows alone is meany to the hardware |
| 00:28.29 | Arrowmaster | you would normally think so |
| 00:28.35 | Arrowmaster | but for them it was the opposite |
| 00:29.01 | Kody- | yeah our load per server actually dropped (with fewer servers) when we made the switch |
| 00:29.19 | Arrowmaster | im going to blame precompiled asp.net vs shitty django |
| 00:29.29 | Kody- | then again django curse wasn't the pinnacle in django coding |
| 00:29.47 | rbarreiros | django is not for a >mill views/day site tbh |
| 00:30.26 | Arrowmaster | the precompiledness of the shitty code is probably why it improved |
| 00:30.48 | Arrowmaster | if there wasnt any shitty code they could probably use even fewer linux servers |
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| 00:33.25 | rbarreiros | so X linux servers with django couldn't withstand 26mil views/day, asp.net (same ammount of servers ?) could, i could almost bet with my experience a properly setup apache with either mod_perl/php even C/C++ (although not very development friendly) with the same ammount of servers in the farm would beat asp.net |
| 00:34.22 | Arrowmaster | much less servers |
| 00:34.32 | rbarreiros | and ofc depends on how u're going to do the load balancing |
| 00:34.35 | Nenue | it's already been that the django implementation wasn't the most sound |
| 00:34.42 | Nenue | *been acknowledged |
| 00:35.17 | Arrowmaster | its also been acknowledged that many former curse web developers have been fired for specified reason in the past |
| 00:35.25 | Arrowmaster | specified reason being they sucked |
| 00:35.52 | Kody- | Zinor actually left at his own discretion, if that's who you're referring to |
| 00:35.58 | rbarreiros | Nenue: wasn't my point i rly don't go well with django either, my point was, apache/perl|php solution would beat asp.net performance when properly setup |
| 00:36.13 | Arrowmaster | ok well i dont actually know about the fired part |
| 00:36.25 | doom0r | why is zomgbuffs stealing my mousewheel on default settings? |
| 00:36.31 | Kody- | But yeah, he didn't exactly leave the site in very good shape at all |
| 00:36.33 | Arrowmaster | but i know net said it was more than one dev thats nolonger working at curse for good reasons |
| 00:37.41 | Nenue | logistics |
| 00:38.57 | Arrowmaster | Kody-: was the server switch actually from linux servers to windows servers or was it just less windows servers due to switching to asp.net? |
| 00:39.34 | Kody- | hrm... linux to windows iirc |
| 00:39.56 | rbarreiros | out of curiosity, how u doing the load balancing ? hardware or software? |
| 00:39.56 | Kody- | Kaelten is probably the better person to ask that though :P |
| 00:40.01 | Kody- | He was the SA until the switch |
| 00:40.33 | Kody- | But he's playing Fallout 3 atm, according to Steam |
| 00:40.43 | Kody- | Good idea if I didn't have a halloween party to go to! |
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| 00:42.09 | Arrowmaster | ah the joys of having coworkers on you buddy lists and 'social networking' sites |
| 00:42.26 | Aiiane | social stalking sites, you mean? |
| 00:43.24 | Arrowmaster | as one of my cis teachers commented about them, dont call in sick to work then change your facebook status to say that youre hungover when your boss can see it |
| 00:43.48 | Aiiane | I don't really use facebook/myspace/etc |
| 00:44.00 | Aiiane | the general public doesn't need that deep an eye into my private life |
| 00:44.14 | nevcairiel | i never understood why people use them at all |
| 00:44.14 | Aiiane | and my closer circle of friends has other ways of getting such information |
| 00:47.07 | Kody- | [17:44] <nevcairiel> i never understood why people use them at all -- some of the features are useful |
| 00:47.19 | nevcairiel | "useful"? |
| 00:47.20 | Kody- | but others are disgustingly useless |
| 00:47.24 | Kody- | yes |
| 00:47.29 | Kody- | the events stuff |
| 00:47.30 | Kody- | is nice |
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| 00:50.41 | Megalon | nevcairiel: it's like everything on the internet |
| 00:50.46 | Megalon | it's all about your e-peen |
| 00:51.42 | Megalon | who has more 'friends' on their 'people who i have at least once in lifetime talked, or saw them, or heard about them, or even nothing of that" |
| 00:51.51 | Megalon | + -list |
| 00:51.52 | Megalon | :x |
| 00:51.59 | zoktar | anyone know of an inventory sorter, that already has categorys like, spellpower itemes, defencive items, melee items. ? =) |
| 00:52.04 | Megalon | the longer the list, the longer the peen :P |
| 00:52.18 | Arrowmaster | personally i like my privacy more |
| 00:54.05 | Arrowmaster | i think i still have false contact info in my domain whois |
| 00:54.17 | Arrowmaster | since my registar is too cheap to offer free masking |
| 00:54.20 | Xinhuan | reported |
| 00:54.27 | Wobin | is bugsack/buggrabber still the bug catcher du jour? |
| 00:55.08 | Arrowmaster | although its had false contact info in there since before registars even did that, for good reason though |
| 00:55.16 | Arrowmaster | i was a minor |
| 00:55.33 | Wobin | You coulda been a contender? =) |
| 00:57.45 | Xinhuan | silithids are tamable now? |
| 00:57.57 | Arrowmaster | which reminds me, i need to renew my domain upto the max 10 years again so i can transfer it away from that cheap registar and not have to pay double to renew it in the future |
| 01:00.31 | Aens|Superiority | Arrowmaster: its what I did :D |
| 01:00.43 | Aens|Superiority | cept it expires 2010 |
| 01:01.21 | Arrowmaster | i think thats when mine expires too |
| 01:07.56 | Primer | I'm losing sh.nu because they want â¬250 to renew it now |
| 01:08.06 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 01:08.13 | Primer | I've had it since 1997 |
| 01:08.20 | Primer | all because it's a 2 letter domain |
| 01:08.45 | Arrowmaster | they want to charge you more for renewall just because its a 2 letter domain? |
| 01:09.05 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess * r2 / (72 files in 17 directories): initial commit |
| 01:09.10 | Primer | yes |
| 01:09.34 | Arrowmaster | check your contract terms |
| 01:09.59 | Primer | heh, I'm sure there's nothing I can do |
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| 01:10.54 | Belazor | is there a way to make Lua tables not garble up the order of elements, when I need to use a different table key than just auto-generated? I want the table to come out in the same order as I define it, but this is not happening. |
| 01:11.38 | Jygga | HOURS waiting in front of that doooooor |
| 01:11.44 | Jygga | *sing+ |
| 01:11.58 | Jygga | karazhan is really quiet after dinner oO |
| 01:12.18 | Arrowmaster | Primer: why dont you try moving to a different registar? |
| 01:12.26 | Repo | 10cryolysis3: 03Belazor * r70 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 01:12.26 | Repo | Undid previous changes because Lua is too stupid to make table keys order correctly, be they strings or numbers -_- |
| 01:13.50 | Bruners | could any of you look over my english please? http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/imptrack/pages/main/ |
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| 01:17.33 | KriLL3 | does all the silithus field duty and assignments stuff count towards loremaster? |
| 01:17.41 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:17.47 | Arrowmaster | those are repeatable |
| 01:17.49 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 01:18.06 | KriLL3 | I'm 60 short and struggling to find stuff to complete |
| 01:19.56 | Arrowmaster | Primer: did any other registars handle .nu back in 97? the current prices and terms on your registars site are totally unbelieveable |
| 01:20.25 | Primer | there are registrars, but the price they pay is increased too |
| 01:21.18 | Arrowmaster | https://www.gandi.net/domain/price/detail/nu/ |
| 01:21.37 | Arrowmaster | no mention of different prices for 2 letter domains on that registar |
| 01:22.38 | Arrowmaster | but nunames.nu's ⬠150 transfer fee cant be legal |
| 01:30.21 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC3-31-gac4f06d / (9 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 01:30.22 | Repo | ac4f06d: Big FAQ update. |
| 01:30.22 | Repo | 10b3cf4: Add Frame Strata and Clamp To Screen options. |
| 01:30.25 | Repo | e44f5c6: Add option to ignore player pets to display threat info on (Default: On). Yes, player pets have aggro tables too! |
| 01:30.31 | Repo | 90990c8: Minor optimization and tweaks. |
| 01:36.39 | Repo | 10reverse-engineering: 03wobin * r3 / (3 files in 1 directory): Facilitate WowAce-on-CurseForge transition |
| 01:36.40 | Repo | Importing old repo data under /trunk |
| 01:40.22 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r653 Locale-zhTW.lua: -- zhTW thanks to Juha |
| 01:48.46 | Repo | 10reverse-engineering: 03wobin * r6 / (3 files in 1 directory): Working for 3.0.2 |
| 01:48.47 | Repo | Updated Toc for tagging |
| 01:48.47 | Repo | Modified for 3.02 |
| 01:51.39 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: did you just switch reverse-engineering over to hg? |
| 01:51.48 | Wobin | I attempted =P |
| 01:52.12 | Arrowmaster | i think you failed |
| 01:52.28 | Wobin | howso? |
| 01:52.43 | Wobin | well aside from not actually retaining much history |
| 01:53.02 | Arrowmaster | kinda what i ment |
| 01:53.15 | Wobin | I tried using hg convert |
| 01:54.03 | Arrowmaster | i hate you btw |
| 01:54.13 | Arrowmaster | because of you i need to install hg |
| 01:57.00 | Wobin | hm, I'm not sure why the history wasn't converted alongside |
| 01:57.16 | Wobin | it only managed to get the commits done by 'root', not by me |
| 01:58.39 | KriLL3 | is there a list somewhere of what instances count towards loremaster? |
| 01:59.12 | KriLL3 | I'm 59 short and having a hard time finding more |
| 02:00.01 | Arrowmaster | all of them on that continent should |
| 02:00.01 | Arrowmaster | as long as the quest isnt marked with a weird header |
| 02:00.10 | nevcairiel | 59 and already a hard time? good luck |
| 02:00.26 | KriLL3 | well I'm not a raider so I'm missing all the AQ quests |
| 02:01.05 | pakoz9 | hey, i just downloaded atlas loot, it installed 5 addons AtlasLoot, AtlastLoot_tbc/wotlk/tbc/worldevents/crafting. All of them are highlighted red except 'AtlasLoot' they give a error of dependency missing, AtlasLoot. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? |
| 02:01.12 | nevcairiel | thats only a handful, and perfectly doable without |
| 02:02.15 | KriLL3 | don't you need to kill raid bosses to get most of them? |
| 02:03.35 | pakoz9 | http://i38.tinypic.com/xqltz5.jpg |
| 02:03.49 | Wobin | hm, I see now |
| 02:03.55 | Wobin | I was being too specific in my conversion |
| 02:04.25 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r35 Core.lua: onclick fix. Thanks mackatack! |
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| 02:09.26 | Repo | 10reverse-engineering: 03wobin 07ReAgent, ReverseEngineering, default * r37 / (7 files in 1 directory): Facilitate WowAce-on-CurseForge transition (Message trimmed by 29 lines) |
| 02:09.28 | Repo | Importing old repo data under /trunk |
| 02:09.28 | Repo | ReverseEngineering - modified email entry for toc (and version) |
| 02:09.31 | Repo | ReverseEngineering - Damn toc versions |
| 02:09.35 | Repo | ReverseEngineering - Removed Libs folder |
| 02:09.44 | Wobin | Mmm... spam |
| 02:10.03 | Arrowmaster | only r37? |
| 02:10.05 | Hjalte | When getting an error about Cannot use SecureHandlers API during combat, does that mean you have an outdated addon or is there nothing addon authors can really do about it? |
| 02:10.12 | Wobin | yeah |
| 02:10.15 | Wobin | it's not a large addon |
| 02:10.22 | Wobin | And then I stripped out all the Ace stuff |
| 02:10.46 | Arrowmaster | except i checked it out earlyer via svn before you tried to convert it |
| 02:10.56 | Arrowmaster | and my svn checkout is on r52 |
| 02:11.17 | Arrowmaster | or are their empty commits in that |
| 02:11.51 | Wobin | I think hm |
| 02:12.02 | Repo | 10cartographer3: 03ckknight 07master * v0.10.3-2-g52371d0 Scripts/get_wmos.py: [+1 commit] Adding my get_wmos.py script |
| 02:12.19 | Wobin | No, the old svn stopped previous to that |
| 02:12.23 | Wobin | at around 9 |
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| 02:12.36 | Groktar | releases the evil ckknight clone |
| 02:13.01 | Wobin | even then it's missing some commits |
| 02:13.09 | Wobin | but that could be due to how it determines stuff |
| 02:13.16 | Wobin | I'm not overly concerned with this addon |
| 02:13.56 | ckknight | o noes |
| 02:13.58 | ckknight | clone? |
| 02:14.00 | ckknight | I thought I was the evil one... |
| 02:14.18 | Wobin | do you have a goatee? |
| 02:14.32 | Xinhuan | pakoz9 |
| 02:14.36 | Xinhuan | that is correct behavior |
| 02:14.45 | Xinhuan | the "red colored" addons you see are "load on demand" |
| 02:15.19 | Xinhuan | meaning they don't get loaded on login, and only get loaded when you request them to be loaded (that is, the core atlasloot loads the submodules as needed, when you ask for it) |
| 02:15.31 | Xinhuan | the red text does not mean they are errors |
| 02:15.31 | Studdly1 | Xinhuan: know how many people i try to tell that to. And they always say it means out dated and i always tell them its LOD. |
| 02:15.45 | Studdly1 | wish i could find some statement from wow to prove that to people. |
| 02:19.44 | Studdly1 | WoW on login 2200 Ping |
| 02:19.45 | Studdly1 | O.o |
| 02:19.53 | Studdly1 | Highest iv ever gotten |
| 02:22.47 | Megalon | yea, using the red color also for LoD is a kinda bad decision |
| 02:23.16 | Megalon | they should have choosen another color and "Loaded on Demand" to the right, like it is with "Dependencies missing" |
| 02:23.38 | Megalon | red is not the best color to signalise that this addon is LoD :D |
| 02:24.56 | Studdly1 | Ya |
| 02:25.00 | Studdly1 | Maybe Green |
| 02:25.03 | asmodai | woooooo |
| 02:25.14 | Studdly1 | Green and LoD seems alright. |
| 02:26.05 | Xinhuan | someone should post on Ui forums |
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| 02:30.44 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r17 Track-o-Matique.lua: (Message trimmed by 7 lines) |
| 02:30.45 | Repo | * Now detecting model changes (including shapeshifting), and reloading the |
| 02:30.45 | Repo | tracking types tables on those changes. This should fix the problem on |
| 02:30.47 | Repo | zombification and such, where the player lost the tracking option but ToM |
| 02:30.51 | Repo | kept insisting on trying to track things. |
| 02:31.57 | Megalon | i would with an us account, but noone reads eu ones ;) |
| 02:33.57 | Groktar | has his way with the Megalon clone |
| 02:36.23 | Megalon | ah, finally i found an idiot who took that failure #11 with him |
| 02:37.09 | Studdly1 | WoW 4400 Ping |
| 02:37.11 | Studdly1 | OMG |
| 02:37.13 | Studdly1 | lolz |
| 02:37.18 | Studdly1 | Dun log in and out to much |
| 02:37.20 | Studdly1 | Ouchie |
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| 03:11.47 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r25 modules (2 files in 1 directory): fix aura status and icon indicator. |
| 03:16.38 | selckin | Ackis: how do i clear my ignore list? |
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| 03:40.20 | alcaras | Are there any mapster plugins or mods that show you the exact 'explore points' to trigger the map explore? |
| 03:47.40 | Studdly1 | i do not understand what u mean. but i hope this helps http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/mozz-full-world-map-fans-update.aspx |
| 03:48.29 | Studdly1 | Then use common sence to guess that a building u can see will make it exporled. |
| 03:48.40 | Studdly1 | i have all done but outlands. just useing that |
| 03:49.06 | alcaras | yeah, you can do that with mapster's fogclear |
| 03:49.46 | Studdly1 | Ahh ok |
| 03:49.57 | Studdly1 | Thats all i used. |
| 03:55.57 | Torhal | ckknight: Ping. |
| 03:56.05 | ckknight | howdy, Torhal |
| 03:56.09 | Torhal | Yola :) |
| 03:56.22 | Torhal | I was wondering what all I would need to do to rename a project... |
| 03:56.31 | ckknight | admin approval |
| 03:56.35 | ckknight | and to get an admin to do it |
| 03:56.47 | ckknight | well, moderator actually |
| 03:56.50 | Torhal | Seems Norganna already has a LibTooltip which is LibStub'd... |
| 03:57.01 | Torhal | So I'm renaming to LibMultiColumnTip |
| 03:58.11 | ckknight | ick |
| 03:58.25 | ckknight | what if I only want one column? |
| 03:58.41 | Torhal | Then use tip:AddLine() |
| 03:58.51 | ckknight | then it's not Multi-column, now, is it? |
| 03:58.52 | Torhal | And generate the tooltip with one column :) |
| 03:59.13 | Torhal | Bah. Blame Xinhuan. :) |
| 03:59.26 | Torhal | He suggested the name |
| 03:59.35 | Torhal | And two other authors voted on it :) |
| 03:59.51 | ckknight | if you want (not to say you do), you could take the Tablet name |
| 04:00.12 | Nechckn | That has some baggage, no? |
| 04:00.14 | ckknight | I just think that LibMultiColumnTip is kinda ... lame |
| 04:00.33 | ckknight | Nechckn: meh, I suppose. They serve very similar purposes, though, despite having different featuresets and codebases |
| 04:00.56 | Torhal | I think it's too verbose, personally. But nobody wants it to explode when using Auctioneer or Gatherer, either |
| 04:01.07 | Nechckn | right, right... suppose if they made a point that it is totally different it would be ok |
| 04:01.23 | Arrowmaster | doubt using tablets name would be good unless your truely remaking tablet |
| 04:01.23 | ckknight | LibTablet-7.0 Enterprise Edition (For Kids!) |
| 04:01.26 | Nechckn | Yeah.... don't blow up Auc or Gatherer, please |
| 04:01.52 | Arrowmaster | and afaik LibTooltip does multicolumn too so your name is confusing |
| 04:01.55 | Nechckn | Actually, we are not using it- yet- 5.3 will use it |
| 04:02.15 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Norganna's LibTooltip or mine? |
| 04:02.16 | Torhal | Heh |
| 04:02.19 | Nechckn | we are in 5.1 atm |
| 04:02.24 | ckknight | LibAwesomeTooltip |
| 04:02.33 | Torhal | Norganna's is pretty much dual-column |
| 04:02.34 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 04:02.35 | quiescens | awesome |
| 04:02.42 | Nechckn | I always liked a certain someone's CowTip =) |
| 04:02.43 | Arrowmaster | nvm |
| 04:02.52 | Arrowmaster | got confused on something |
| 04:02.55 | Torhal | Ah |
| 04:03.01 | quiescens | moo? |
| 04:03.25 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:03.32 | Nechckn | the one right now is "EnhancedTooltip" we are redoing everything to use LibTT soon (tm) |
| 04:04.06 | ckknight | LibAltText |
| 04:04.08 | ckknight | ... |
| 04:04.28 | Torhal | ...runs out to the garage to smoke and do lots of pacing. |
| 04:04.34 | Nechckn | LibAltMenuExpression |
| 04:05.43 | Nechckn | get all crazy with something totally unrelated - CheckoutmyTips there you go. |
| 04:12.06 | ckknight | how about something along the lines of LibWaitress |
| 04:12.21 | ckknight | since you tip her |
| 04:12.25 | ckknight | about 15% |
| 04:12.27 | ckknight | unless she's good |
| 04:12.29 | ckknight | or she sucks |
| 04:12.36 | Torhal | Gah |
| 04:12.37 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.44 | KriLL3 | yay just 30 quests left in Kalimdor... |
| 04:12.51 | ckknight | you just want Cock in the name, Zhinjio |
| 04:12.59 | Zhinjio | um. |
| 04:13.00 | Zhinjio | yeah. |
| 04:13.10 | Zhinjio | that and I just got back from the bar. |
| 04:13.42 | Zhinjio | the waitresses tonight were: Joan Jett, a schoolgirl, a corrections officer and probably a vampire |
| 04:13.49 | Zhinjio | oh, and strawbeerry shortcake |
| 04:13.53 | Zhinjio | and a pirate |
| 04:13.54 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:14.05 | ckknight | cool |
| 04:14.26 | Zhinjio | the guy's costume were better, but not as sexy |
| 04:14.27 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:14.34 | Zhinjio | one was a hotel porter |
| 04:14.39 | Zhinjio | his outfit was *perfect* |
| 04:15.48 | ckknight | well, it's time to play Fallout 3 |
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| 04:16.20 | Groktar | presents CrazyBenny with a fresh Scheiße |
| 04:17.55 | CrazyBenny | :o |
| 04:18.42 | doom0r | wow i loot whored |
| 04:19.02 | doom0r | king's defender, mantle of abrahmis, both pally shields, and an acranite ripper |
| 04:19.34 | Repo | 10instance-maps: 03wolftankk * r50 / (6 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 04:19.35 | Repo | InstanceMaps: |
| 04:19.36 | Repo | - add embeds.xml |
| 04:19.37 | Repo | - fix select an instance map cant shown bug |
| 04:19.40 | Repo | - update instance maps data |
| 04:20.41 | Studdly1 | Question: How do i have more then 1 panel in kgpanels ? |
| 04:21.14 | Bruners | Studdly1: by making another one |
| 04:21.39 | doom0r | active panels, type a name, create |
| 04:21.47 | doom0r | rinse |
| 04:21.51 | Studdly1 | Lolz |
| 04:21.55 | Studdly1 | i tryed that |
| 04:21.57 | Bruners | stupid server being down |
| 04:21.57 | Groktar | pounces Studdly1 |
| 04:22.05 | Studdly1 | it deactives my first oen |
| 04:22.06 | Studdly1 | O.o |
| 04:22.27 | Groktar | gnaws on Studdly1's throat |
| 04:22.31 | Studdly1 | lolz |
| 04:22.42 | Studdly1 | I dunno how to do that. O.o |
| 04:22.45 | doom0r | set a layout |
| 04:22.58 | Studdly1 | i did |
| 04:22.59 | doom0r | make an active panel, make another |
| 04:23.04 | doom0r | nothing more than that |
| 04:23.19 | Studdly1 | ok |
| 04:23.39 | Wobin | Groktar: is CrazyBenny's ScheiÃe in a brown paper bag on his front step? |
| 04:23.49 | Groktar | no |
| 04:23.50 | Groktar | in his hair |
| 04:23.55 | doom0r | if beyond that, i wouldn't know, i only use it to turn my whole screen white so i can align my ui |
| 04:24.43 | Studdly1 | lolz |
| 04:25.40 | Studdly1 | Got it thanks |
| 04:25.46 | Studdly1 | Seems i was trying to make a new layout |
| 04:25.50 | Repo | 10instance-maps: 03wolftankk 04r50 * r51 : InstanceMaps: Changed external property |
| 04:25.51 | Studdly1 | not a new Panel |
| 04:25.52 | Studdly1 | Blah |
| 04:31.23 | Studdly1 | Hey Groktar |
| 04:40.04 | Torhal | doom0r: Do you use http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6153-Align.html as well? |
| 04:40.10 | doom0r | yes |
| 04:40.19 | doom0r | white screen with align on |
| 04:40.23 | doom0r | works wonders |
| 04:40.28 | Torhal | Wewt. Gotta try the white screen. |
| 04:40.45 | Torhal | Eyestrain sucks, even with my camera pointed to the sky |
| 04:40.57 | doom0r | srsly |
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| 04:42.08 | Studdly1 | what do u use that for ? |
| 04:42.18 | Torhal | Studdly1: ALign? |
| 04:42.30 | Studdly1 | ya |
| 04:42.35 | Torhal | Makes a grid on your screen that lets you align unitframes and such. |
| 04:42.47 | doom0r | although it's center seems to be off a lil |
| 04:42.48 | Torhal | I usually do this: /align 96 |
| 04:42.59 | doom0r | heh, i use 128 and 256 |
| 04:43.00 | Torhal | Not by much. Maybe a couple of pixels |
| 04:43.12 | Torhal | I use 128 to fine-tune |
| 04:43.17 | Studdly1 | thats cool |
| 04:43.19 | Torhal | Never tried 256. Seems excessive :) |
| 04:43.20 | Studdly1 | i should try it |
| 04:43.36 | doom0r | i have eyes that notice and i can't stand if it's off |
| 04:43.55 | doom0r | my cooldown timers are off a couple pixles and it's drivin me nuts |
| 04:44.08 | doom0r | i end up editing the saved vars to align my crap, lol |
| 04:44.21 | Torhal | Heh. Nice. |
| 04:44.29 | Studdly1 | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw5288.jpg - Anyone know that bottom right addon |
| 04:44.33 | Studdly1 | that tells u load time |
| 04:44.50 | Torhal | Warmup |
| 04:45.01 | Studdly1 | O.o i tryed warmup |
| 04:45.06 | Studdly1 | it never told me that |
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| 04:47.21 | sztanpet | wasnt binds and macros supposed to be server-side now? |
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| 04:50.26 | Repo | 10big-brother: 03StingerSoft * r173 / (3 files in 1 directory): BigBrother: |
| 04:50.27 | Repo | - update/fix ruRU |
| 04:50.28 | Repo | - change msg output method in ruRU client |
| 04:51.02 | Studdly1 | ya |
| 04:51.09 | Studdly1 | but for some reason it is client as well |
| 04:55.44 | Bruners | who broke bankstacks and how |
| 04:56.06 | sztanpet | so what, its basically useless because i didnt get any of my settings accross |
| 04:57.37 | sztanpet | and you cant download addons anymore from wowace huh |
| 04:58.06 | Torhal | sztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-stack/ |
| 04:59.11 | sztanpet | what does this do |
| 04:59.29 | Torhal | sztanpet: Bah. Wrong person. Sorry :) |
| 04:59.34 | Torhal | Bruners: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bank-stack/ |
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| 05:04.03 | Studdly1 | With AutoBar i try to move things to 1 bar and it will not show up |
| 05:04.08 | Studdly1 | like if i move mage buff to basic |
| 05:04.12 | Studdly1 | it will not show up |
| 05:04.13 | Studdly1 | why ? |
| 05:08.40 | Studdly1 | Ahh i had to reload my ui |
| 05:08.41 | Bruners | Torhal: thank you |
| 05:08.43 | sztanpet | is there a way to access the server-side keybinds and macros, or any addon for it |
| 05:08.53 | Studdly1 | dunno if that was met to work that way or it is a bug. |
| 05:09.03 | Studdly1 | no |
| 05:09.27 | Studdly1 | Or rather imo there should not be a way |
| 05:09.29 | Torhal | Bruner: np |
| 05:09.33 | Studdly1 | i do not know for 100 percent sure |
| 05:28.45 | Studdly1 | How do i pick the Align Number? |
| 05:28.54 | Studdly1 | like 64 or 96 or 128 |
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| 05:34.02 | Torhal | It's: /align 96 |
| 05:43.40 | doom0r | it always toggles, so just do again |
| 05:43.52 | Torhal | Nice timing. He just logged out |
| 05:43.53 | Torhal | Hehe |
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| 05:52.48 | Torhal | M'gah! |
| 05:53.28 | Torhal | "Thanks in advance!" == I KNOW you're gonna do this, because it's just too awesome and I have no concept of different opinions! |
| 05:53.37 | Torhal | Bleargh. |
| 05:54.03 | Torhal | Xinhuan: You got a patch for Omen3 with a "Thanks in advance!" tag |
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| 06:23.30 | Repo | -Fixed bug at Target name tags |
| 06:23.31 | Repo | -Fixed bugs with combo/totem/lacerate/sunders icons |
| 06:23.33 | Repo | -Revised the auras and timers |
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| 07:09.26 | Bluspacecow | ~whalebait bluspacecow |
| 07:09.34 | Bluspacecow | :( |
| 07:13.19 | Bluspacecow | ~lart Tem |
| 07:13.19 | purl | plops Tem into a giant vat of herring |
| 07:13.47 | *** kick/#wowace [Bluspacecow!n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem] by Tem (Tem) |
| 07:13.57 | Tem | that doesn't get old |
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| 07:27.59 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r114 BC.lua: fix nil quest option, defualt it to 3 (none) if nil |
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| 07:34.45 | Zyndrome | ok |
| 07:34.57 | Zyndrome | Avenging Wrath "hotfixed" ... now causes a 2 minute Forbearance |
| 07:35.55 | Zyndrome | and by "hotfixed" I mean "TO THE GROUND BABY!" |
| 07:39.02 | doom0r | hotfixed, LOL |
| 07:39.09 | doom0r | no, they put it back after breaking it |
| 07:39.20 | doom0r | they were dumb for changing it in the first place |
| 07:39.22 | doom0r | and i'm a pally |
| 07:39.22 | Repo | 10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam * r68 bars.lua: DHUD2: |
| 07:39.23 | Repo | -Fixed bug with cast delay text |
| 07:39.32 | durcyn | Antiarc: ping |
| 07:39.51 | Antiarc | pong |
| 07:40.20 | durcyn | permission to commit a fix for the ping names and two leaked globals in sexymap? |
| 07:40.31 | durcyn | pattern should be %02x instead of just %x |
| 07:40.42 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: sexymap\Buttons.lua:416: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'by' (a nil value) |
| 07:40.51 | Antiarc | Zhinjio: Should be fixed in the latest alpha |
| 07:40.51 | Zhinjio | but I do have buttons to control again! |
| 07:40.55 | Zhinjio | ok, thanks |
| 07:41.03 | Antiarc | durcyn: Go ahead. I need to do global checks on my sexymap files |
| 07:41.11 | Antiarc | luac -l file.lua | grep GETGLOBAL |
| 07:41.12 | Antiarc | :D |
| 07:42.10 | durcyn | i usually -p also so it doesn't spew luac.out, but yeah |
| 07:43.51 | orionshock | Xinhuan: ping? |
| 07:48.47 | durcyn | Antiarc: er, git hates me, here's a diff: http://ace.pastey.net/100303 |
| 07:49.54 | orionshock | Nargiddley: ping |
| 07:49.57 | Antiarc | Thanks |
| 07:50.02 | Antiarc | I'll get those into my next push |
| 07:50.05 | Antiarc | adding capture movers |
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| 07:51.53 | Hessen | Guys wich "SharedMedia" adon are u using? |
| 07:52.25 | Hessen | I got the latest one in the client, 3.0 by elkano. But I aint geting any bar textures at all. I miss my old textures for pitbull |
| 07:52.31 | Hessen | :( |
| 07:52.56 | Hessen | they look crap since I reinstalled my computer. saved the pitbull layout but forgot the sharedmedia textures |
| 07:52.57 | durcyn | Hessen: er, the media source isn't versioned. the current library is 3.0, but SharedMedia loads into any installed versions |
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| 07:53.29 | Hessen | durcyn, what am I missing? Why aint I got the textures I used to have? |
| 07:54.11 | Hessen | I went into putbull and tryed to change bar texture. but I could only choose "Blizzard" |
| 07:54.14 | Hessen | looks crap |
| 07:54.18 | orionshock | hehe, is the shared media addon LoD? |
| 07:54.18 | doom0r | di doesn't break stealth anymore |
| 07:54.20 | Hessen | I used to have like 50 textures |
| 07:54.35 | durcyn | orionshock: no |
| 07:54.37 | Hessen | LoD? |
| 07:54.47 | Hessen | load on demand? |
| 07:55.11 | durcyn | Hessen: where did you obtain SharedMedia? |
| 07:55.18 | Hessen | curseclient |
| 07:56.12 | durcyn | and the addon directory is named SharedMedia, not SharedMediaLib or LibSharedMedia-x.0, yes? |
| 07:56.24 | Hessen | nop |
| 07:56.30 | Hessen | LibSharedMedia-3.0 |
| 07:56.37 | durcyn | you've only got the library. |
| 07:56.45 | durcyn | http://www.wowace.com/projects/sharedmedia/ |
| 07:56.56 | Hessen | ah yes, thats what I used to have |
| 07:57.03 | Hessen | ty man |
| 07:57.22 | orionshock | HA |
| 07:57.26 | orionshock | i figured it out... |
| 07:57.30 | orionshock | width = "full", |
| 07:57.33 | orionshock | :D |
| 07:58.03 | Hessen | ah |
| 07:58.22 | Hessen | ima rework my entire ui. try to make a cool looking UI with blizzards textures from their wotlk site |
| 07:58.31 | Hessen | and some neat pitbull uf |
| 07:58.53 | Hessen | wish me gl |
| 08:04.44 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r115 / (2 files in 1 directory): touch options table again |
| 08:05.00 | orionshock | ^^ that's what i mean by width="full" :D |
| 08:05.06 | orionshock | looks so much nicer now |
| 08:07.50 | Arrowmaster | Futurama.Benders.Game.2008.DVDRip.XviD-DOMiNO.avi |
| 08:07.51 | Arrowmaster | afk |
| 08:08.08 | Wobin | ... |
| 08:08.12 | Wobin | I just got a call from my parents |
| 08:08.18 | Wobin | to tell me what a terrible brother I am |
| 08:08.29 | Wobin | as I didn't call my sister to wish her happy 5th wedding anniversary |
| 08:08.42 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 08:08.52 | Wobin | I'm supposed to keep -track- of these things? |
| 08:09.04 | Wobin | It's not like it' -my- wedding! |
| 08:14.35 | Repo | 10sexymap: 03Antiarc 07master * 1126cf3 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add capture bar movers, clean up some errant globals (thanks durcyn) |
| 08:15.16 | Zyndrome | hah, who cares about those things |
| 08:18.29 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.0.4 beta * r116 : Tagging as v6.0.4 beta. nil fix and options table fix |
| 08:23.15 | syeren | orionshock, I can't seem to find the latest version of SOCD on WoWAce O_o; |
| 08:23.22 | syeren | Could you give me a link if possible? |
| 08:23.23 | orionshock | beta |
| 08:23.37 | orionshock | packager might be broke |
| 08:23.39 | syeren | WoWAce is a developer platform right? So It should be there :p |
| 08:23.43 | orionshock | should be on project page under files |
| 08:24.05 | syeren | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ |
| 08:24.05 | syeren | :< |
| 08:24.11 | syeren | How odd :/ |
| 08:26.16 | orionshock | syeren: that page is rather useless wrt to my project :D |
| 08:31.01 | syeren | So give me a link to the project please :( |
| 08:32.15 | orionshock | i want you to know that you are hopeless man |
| 08:32.21 | orionshock | just sad, can't use a search box |
| 08:32.24 | orionshock | http://www.wowace.com/projects/sick-of-clicking-dailies/files/ |
| 08:33.02 | syeren | Yes. |
| 08:33.08 | syeren | Because that has 08:14 +Repo sick-of-clicking-dailies: OrionShock v6.0.4 beta * r116 : Tagging as v6.0.4 beta. nil fix and options table fix. |
| 08:33.23 | orionshock | ~fail syeren |
| 08:33.24 | purl | syeren, you Fail! |
| 08:33.25 | syeren | I was asking for a link to that specific update, not the fucking project. |
| 08:33.52 | orionshock | u couldn't find it, same place as it has ALWAYS been in the files listing |
| 08:33.54 | orionshock | ^.^ |
| 08:34.28 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:35.16 | syeren | Yes, I'd post a screenshot of my browser history for the last time I checked the files listing and the project page to prove you wrong if I could be bothered installing Photoshop. |
| 08:35.34 | syeren | But like I said, I was asking for a link to the latest beta seems as your addon bugs out at a Hellfire Daily. |
| 08:35.45 | orionshock | ... |
| 08:35.48 | syeren | But hey, if you want to be that way, your decision. |
| 08:36.37 | Wobin | @project sick-of-clicking-dailies |
| 08:36.38 | Repo | Wobin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sick-of-clicking-dailies/. SickOfClickingDailies. Game: WoW. Leader: OrionShock. Updated: 17 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 08:37.42 | Wobin | perhaps the packager is offline |
| 08:38.59 | syeren | It appears to be from the page response time :P |
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| 08:43.26 | Hessen | hey |
| 08:44.08 | Hessen | anyone know if there is any requirements on textures .tga format im allowed to use in wow? Like background texture to my kgpanel |
| 08:45.19 | Wobin | dimensions must be a power of 3 |
| 08:45.20 | Wobin | er 2 |
| 08:45.42 | Wobin | and you have to restart after adding any new texture files |
| 08:45.42 | Hessen | hum |
| 08:45.49 | Hessen | restart wow yes |
| 08:46.04 | Hessen | I added hessen.tga to my sharedmedia folder /background |
| 08:46.18 | Hessen | but cant select it in wow, I did restart. Im thinking it doesnt meet some requirements |
| 08:46.28 | Wobin | what are the dimensions of the file? |
| 08:46.45 | Hessen | I dont know, you mean size? |
| 08:46.50 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:46.51 | Hessen | hight/witdh? |
| 08:46.52 | Wobin | well |
| 08:46.52 | Hessen | sec |
| 08:46.53 | Wobin | yeah |
| 08:47.31 | Hessen | h:349 w:95 |
| 08:47.43 | Wobin | they have to be a power of 2 |
| 08:47.57 | Wobin | 2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256 etc etc |
| 08:48.22 | Hessen | alright hum |
| 08:48.39 | Hessen | sure? |
| 08:49.23 | Hessen | ty m8, ill try fix this |
| 08:50.26 | Hessen | there's nothing between 256 and 512? |
| 08:51.44 | Wobin | Name of the texture image. |
| 08:51.44 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.47 | Wobin | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexture |
| 08:55.19 | Hessen | Wobin |
| 08:55.19 | Hessen | ty |
| 08:55.31 | Wobin | no worries |
| 08:55.38 | Hessen | I got one problem. My photoshop wont even let me set that format |
| 08:55.42 | Hessen | 16bpp is lowest here |
| 08:57.01 | Wobin | not sure what to suggest then =) |
| 09:00.31 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1717 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 09:00.32 | Repo | Added an explanation for how the minimap button works to the options menu. |
| 09:01.30 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Ammo * r639 / (2 files in 1 directory): remove log template and make LDB a launcher |
| 09:01.50 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle 04v2.0.2 * r194 : Tagging as v2.0.2. |
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| 09:06.27 | Hessen | arrrrrg |
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| 09:06.33 | Hessen | how do I set 8bpp damit |
| 09:07.26 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed a bug with tolerance option |
| 09:08.19 | Repo | 10violation: 03Ammo * r486 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix window color not properly applying |
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| 09:17.44 | Repo | 10debug-log-backend: 03Adirelle * r16 Core.lua: Fix Blizzard addon interface not opening. |
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| 09:19.00 | Repo | 10cast-yeller: 03Adirelle * r173 CastYeller.lua: Removed 2.4 Blizzard addon interface compat layer. |
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| 09:23.26 | doom0r | pull, gogogo, chain pull, keep going, got 2 heals, pull |
| 09:23.28 | doom0r | OMFG |
| 09:23.35 | doom0r | i hate antsy poeple |
| 09:23.36 | quiescens | dies. |
| 09:24.48 | Mikk | Hessen: install GIMP |
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| 09:27.52 | Hessen | Mikk hello |
| 09:28.02 | Hessen | what is GIMP? :) |
| 09:28.41 | Mikk | Free software alternative to Photoshop. In particular, it handles .tga much better. |
| 09:28.58 | Hessen | downloading, ty mate |
| 09:30.55 | Mikk | I dunno where the 8BPP came from though. That's only 256 colors. |
| 09:31.01 | Mikk | I use 24bpp just fine oO |
| 09:31.20 | Hessen | on textures in wow? |
| 09:31.23 | Mikk | Yes |
| 09:31.41 | Hessen | what the heck, I taught I couldnt use mine because it has too many bits per pixels |
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| 09:31.48 | Mikk | But yeah I save them using GIMP. |
| 09:31.51 | nevcairiel | you can even use 32 for a full alpha channel |
| 09:31.55 | Mikk | That too |
| 09:32.03 | Hessen | hum |
| 09:32.09 | Hessen | dont know whats wrong then |
| 09:32.16 | Mikk | Try saving them with gimp. |
| 09:32.30 | Hessen | save my .tga's from photoshop and store them in SharedMedia folder /background |
| 09:32.31 | Hessen | ye |
| 09:32.33 | Hessen | ill do that, sec |
| 09:32.50 | Mikk | Is that all you do? |
| 09:32.59 | Mikk | You need to tell the sharedmedia source files that they exist too |
| 09:33.06 | Mikk | Otherwise they won't show in menus |
| 09:33.12 | Hessen | I dont know how to do that :( |
| 09:33.18 | Hessen | ok then thats the problem |
| 09:33.20 | Mikk | Then that's your problem :o) |
| 09:33.24 | Hessen | hehe |
| 09:33.29 | Hessen | im noob :/ |
| 09:33.32 | Hessen | trying my best |
| 09:33.58 | Hessen | you know that you're going to have to help me do that now? |
| 09:34.04 | Mikk | HAH! :P |
| 09:34.11 | Hessen | YEP! |
| 09:34.21 | Mikk | Tbh I don't even have sharedmedia installed |
| 09:34.41 | Hessen | alright, ur more sofisticated. |
| 09:34.49 | Mikk | More vanilla =) |
| 09:35.00 | Hessen | hey anyway |
| 09:35.06 | Hessen | what I want is easy for you |
| 09:35.18 | Hessen | I have this texture. and I want to set it as background in my kgpanel |
| 09:35.33 | Mikk | mm gimme a sec and i'll give you a pointer |
| 09:35.34 | Hessen | help me man, u need just direct me and great things will follow. usually... |
| 09:35.48 | Hessen | thanks |
| 09:39.45 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Nevcairiel * r640 / (2 files in 1 directory): Remove old LoD script files |
| 09:40.20 | Mikk | Yaknow I've got to wonder why there isn't examples on how to do this already |
| 09:40.23 | Mikk | Everyone wants it |
| 09:40.47 | Hessen | yea |
| 09:41.23 | Arrowmaster | maybe we could write up some instructions |
| 09:41.35 | Arrowmaster | and put them in a file named "INSTRUCTIONS for MyMedia.txt" |
| 09:41.46 | Mikk | I saw that file |
| 09:41.53 | Mikk | It references things that don't exist |
| 09:42.25 | Arrowmaster | such as? |
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| 09:42.31 | Mikk | MyMedia |
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| 09:42.53 | Arrowmaster | i see no reference to MyMedia |
| 09:43.14 | Mikk | And "Make a copy of this file and rename it MyMedia.lua" ... what file? oO |
| 09:43.17 | Mikk | the text file? |
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| 09:43.22 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:44.45 | Xuerian | Mikk: Seerah had a thread about how to do it at some point |
| 09:44.48 | Xuerian | It really should be stickied |
| 09:45.05 | Arrowmaster | nah |
| 09:45.10 | Arrowmaster | nobody ever read it |
| 09:45.15 | Xuerian | I did =| |
| 09:45.22 | quiescens | lies |
| 09:45.25 | Xuerian | I did! |
| 09:45.31 | Arrowmaster | we repeated the same thing over and over in it but people didnt read and just asked the same question |
| 09:45.48 | Arrowmaster | fucking hal textures |
| 09:45.59 | Mikk | Well... can I do violence to it and make it a lot more understandable? :P |
| 09:46.01 | Xuerian | But I LIKE the hal textures XD |
| 09:46.25 | Xuerian | Hal I ftw :) |
| 09:46.46 | Arrowmaster | ive been using the same bar texture for years |
| 09:46.51 | Mikk | Oi arrow |
| 09:47.01 | Xuerian | Which is? :P |
| 09:47.06 | Arrowmaster | Otravi |
| 09:47.28 | Mikk | I was thinking something like.... "HOW TO ADD YOUR OWN MEDIA.txt". And have a MyMedia subfolder that you pull out and make a new addon out of |
| 09:47.45 | Hessen | I like the Armory texture |
| 09:47.50 | Hessen | for bars |
| 09:48.16 | Xuerian | I dun like the sharp borders on otravi >.> |
| 09:48.25 | Mikk | Hell, I could even put in a batch file that generates the Lua |
| 09:48.48 | Arrowmaster | no you cant |
| 09:48.58 | Mikk | orly? |
| 09:49.14 | Arrowmaster | precommit hook wont let you |
| 09:49.15 | Hessen | Mikk |
| 09:49.23 | Hessen | help me get this texture up :D |
| 09:49.30 | Mikk | Dude that's what I'm doing |
| 09:49.34 | Mikk | I just don't want to have to do it again |
| 09:49.51 | Hessen | Ill be here and catch the next guy that asks :D |
| 09:51.58 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03Dessa * r285 Bars/Shaman.lua: Shaman updates |
| 09:52.51 | Kuja^ | ~seen Ominous |
| 09:52.52 | purl | ominous <n=Ominous@212.183.134.128> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 20h 10m 48s ago, saying: 'yea i know'. |
| 09:52.59 | Hessen | hey Mikk |
| 09:52.59 | Hessen | ----- |
| 09:52.59 | Hessen | SharedMedia:Register("background", "Moo", [[Interface\Addons\SharedMedia\background\moo.tga]]) |
| 09:52.59 | Hessen | -- |
| 09:53.06 | Hessen | just add another string like that? |
| 09:53.25 | Hessen | im in sharedmedia.lua |
| 09:53.31 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:53.33 | Repo | 10bank-stack: 03Ammo * r114 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix calls to open the interface addon options |
| 09:54.04 | Hessen | common what's it then? |
| 09:54.19 | Arrowmaster | the instructions are quite simple |
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| 09:56.05 | Hessen | the instructions doesnt work |
| 09:56.16 | Hessen | MyMedia.lua is not on my disc. |
| 09:56.44 | Arrowmaster | ....... |
| 09:56.56 | Arrowmaster | 1. Make a copy of this file called MyMedia.lua in the SharedMedia folder |
| 09:57.10 | Arrowmaster | 1. Make a copy of this file called MyMedia.lua in the SharedMedia folder |
| 09:57.36 | Hessen | yes |
| 09:57.42 | Hessen | but specify THIS FILE |
| 09:57.44 | Arrowmaster | 1. Make a copy of this file called MyMedia.lua in the SharedMedia folder |
| 09:57.55 | Arrowmaster | THE FILE YOU ARE READING |
| 09:58.10 | Arrowmaster | THIS FILE |
| 09:58.39 | asmodai | not the other? |
| 09:58.50 | vhaarr | "Make a copy of this file and name it 'MyMedia.lua'" would be easier to understand |
| 09:59.10 | Hessen | well it doesnt make sense to me to copy the instructions textfile and name it mymedia.lua |
| 09:59.16 | AcTiVaTe | Copy the file called "MyMedia.lua" to the SharedMedia folder ? :P |
| 09:59.23 | Hessen | yes |
| 09:59.28 | Hessen | that's what I taught |
| 09:59.29 | Arrowmaster | the instructions file is a lua file |
| 09:59.30 | vhaarr | Hessen: doesn't have to make sense, just do what it says |
| 09:59.35 | Hessen | so I started looking around for the mymedia-lua |
| 09:59.40 | asmodai | vhaarr: *nod* |
| 10:00.35 | asmodai | Kemayo: <3 for InstanceMaps fixes |
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| 10:00.58 | Hessen | 2. Place your media files into the "MyMedia files" folder |
| 10:01.01 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r3 / (10 files in 5 directories): temp commit of some random changes I had lying around |
| 10:01.12 | Hessen | so I guess its not supposed to exist, but I make a new folder called MyMedia |
| 10:01.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:01.26 | asmodai | Isn't that a standard Windows folder? |
| 10:01.28 | Arrowmaster | the folder already exists |
| 10:01.38 | asmodai | Ah no |
| 10:01.46 | asmodai | nvm me *shuts up* (just woke up) |
| 10:02.12 | Hessen | There is no such folder on my disc :( |
| 10:02.22 | asmodai | would be a disk anyway |
| 10:02.26 | asmodai | disc is DVD/CD and the likes |
| 10:02.34 | Arrowmaster | its in the SharedMedia folder |
| 10:02.35 | Hessen | ok so disk |
| 10:02.46 | Hessen | No its not, but I can create it |
| 10:02.56 | Arrowmaster | where did you get SharedMedia? |
| 10:03.08 | Hessen | wowace |
| 10:03.16 | Arrowmaster | you downloaded the zip file? |
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| 10:03.37 | Hessen | oh no, latest time I took it, was from curse client |
| 10:04.31 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 10:04.37 | Arrowmaster | the zip file is broken |
| 10:05.24 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: ping =) |
| 10:05.55 | Adirelle | [SW]Dodge: pong |
| 10:05.56 | Arrowmaster | just checked and the zip file does not contain a "MyMedia files" folder which it should |
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| 10:05.58 | Arrowmaster | not sure why |
| 10:06.09 | Arrowmaster | my svn checkout does |
| 10:06.24 | Mikk | It could be that the packager ignores empty directories |
| 10:06.29 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: it seems that ssr does not correctly detects active trackings |
| 10:06.30 | Hessen | missing relevant files? or can I just create a new folder? |
| 10:06.31 | Mikk | Which it would if it only loops files |
| 10:06.43 | nevcairiel | it probably does |
| 10:07.00 | nevcairiel | it also ignores dot files. so dont start with .keep :P |
| 10:07.04 | Arrowmaster | the zip is an old one |
| 10:07.10 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: if i set low level quests as tracking to rebuff it always spams that lowlevel quests is missing even if it is active |
| 10:07.23 | Adirelle | annoying |
| 10:07.37 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: yea :D |
| 10:11.38 | Hessen | alright Arrowmaster |
| 10:11.46 | Hessen | so now I have a .lua file with the instructions still in it? |
| 10:11.47 | Hessen | lol |
| 10:11.53 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:12.05 | Arrowmaster | (the instructions are in a giant comment block) |
| 10:12.36 | doom0r | i see what you did there |
| 10:13.13 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: Message: ...terface\AddOns\SimpleSelfRebuff\SimpleSelfRebuff.lua line 1490: attempt to index global 'SSR' (a nil value) <- i just left the feralas Inn :S |
| 10:14.19 | quiescens | solution: don't leave the inn |
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| 10:14.34 | doom0r | srsly, it's cozy |
| 10:14.38 | Hessen | still |
| 10:14.41 | Hessen | doesnt work :( |
| 10:14.48 | evl | Any CurseForge pro's here?:P |
| 10:15.03 | evl | I commited with "git push --tags" and then "git push" and my tag doesn't get packaged |
| 10:15.55 | Hessen | Arrowmaster :/ |
| 10:15.58 | Arrowmaster | something seems broken right now, cant get packager status |
| 10:16.04 | Hessen | thanks for helping |
| 10:16.06 | evl | Arrowmaster: so it's not me? |
| 10:16.34 | Arrowmaster | nothing is probably getting packaged right now |
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| 10:16.47 | nevcairiel | you should do it in one push though, evl |
| 10:16.49 | evl | okay thanks, all I need to know :) |
| 10:16.54 | nevcairiel | git push --tags origin master |
| 10:16.58 | evl | ok |
| 10:17.07 | evl | git said I don't need to do origin master after first push |
| 10:17.13 | evl | so "git push --tags" is the correct command? |
| 10:17.34 | Repo | 10antagonist: 03pr0ff * r214 / (2 files in 2 directories): add ruRU locale |
| 10:18.32 | nevcairiel | i had some issues with only --tags without origin master, but yeah |
| 10:21.00 | Repo | 10classtimer: 03Dessa * r286 Bars/Shaman.lua: add Earthliving too |
| 10:21.30 | Adirelle | [SW]Dodge: fixed the line 1490 error, but can't reproduce the active tracking error |
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| 10:22.35 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle * r195 SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: Fixed line 1490 error. |
| 10:24.32 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: set for example low level quest tracking to rebuff, then shift in cat form (as a driud ;) ) then it should switch to track humanoids (for me it does dunno why but i think its not ssr) and ssr will cry first time for missing low level quest tracking, then mouse-wheele then wait a short time and the first message appears |
| 10:25.31 | Adirelle | [SW]Dodge: switch to track humanoids is automatic on cat-shift for every druid |
| 10:25.50 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: but then its new after 3.0.2 |
| 10:26.02 | [SW]Dodge | it wasnt before for a time |
| 10:26.10 | nevcairiel | it always was |
| 10:26.11 | nevcairiel | except |
| 10:26.19 | nevcairiel | it doesnt do it for track flowers/track fish |
| 10:26.23 | nevcairiel | but for everything else |
| 10:26.25 | nevcairiel | its damn annoying |
| 10:26.36 | Arrowmaster | it used to 'always' do it |
| 10:26.43 | nevcairiel | or track ore for that matter |
| 10:26.50 | Arrowmaster | like when my lvl 31 druid would shift into cat form |
| 10:26.55 | Arrowmaster | that was fun |
| 10:26.58 | [SW]Dodge | nevcairiel: ah ok, i didnt test it with something else than find fish before ;D |
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| 10:27.19 | nevcairiel | but whats really broken |
| 10:27.25 | nevcairiel | it doesnt shift back when you leave cat form |
| 10:27.30 | Adirelle | so it seems to be related with druid shifting, as I don't have any issue with my hunter, I'll make some test |
| 10:29.17 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: btw, my motw and thornts is missig but it wont rebuff me until it see that low level quest tracking is active :/ |
| 10:30.24 | Adirelle | yeah, it sticks on the first buff that is missing, even if this caused by a detection error |
| 10:30.45 | Cheads | uhmm didn't blizzard change spirit so it gave +spell power like int gives crit? |
| 10:32.27 | asmodai | owww |
| 10:32.33 | nevcairiel | Cheads: no |
| 10:33.23 | Cheads | but there was talk about it? or where did I get that idea from |
| 10:40.47 | Hessen | hum |
| 10:41.14 | Hessen | Im trying to get my texture to work in wow. Im saving it as a 16bpp .tga file, but it doesnt work. |
| 10:41.30 | Repo | 10loggerhead: 03Swix * r79 / (2 files in 1 directory): add ruRU locale |
| 10:41.45 | Hessen | anyone know what RLE compression is? |
| 10:41.51 | nevcairiel | use 24 bpp |
| 10:41.54 | nevcairiel | not 16 |
| 10:42.08 | quiescens | run length encoding or something |
| 10:42.27 | Hessen | ya |
| 10:42.36 | Hessen | I have to choose origin, bottom left or top left |
| 10:42.39 | Hessen | dunno what it does |
| 10:42.50 | Hessen | or I can deselect RLE compression |
| 10:43.32 | durcyn | Cheads: some classes have mechanics for it, it's not global by any means |
| 10:43.58 | Cheads | that must be it |
| 10:45.35 | Hessen | wow 24bpp worked nice |
| 10:45.39 | Hessen | ty nevcairiel |
| 10:48.30 | [SW]Dodge | Adirelle: got it reproduced? :) |
| 10:48.45 | Adirelle | [SW]Dodge: no, but I think I understand why may cause it |
| 10:48.56 | [SW]Dodge | okay :D |
| 10:49.37 | Hessen | alright damit |
| 10:50.01 | Hessen | I tryed to tile my background texture in KG panels, and it becomes all darkish and screwed up. |
| 10:50.22 | Hessen | Any way I can tile? or I need to make a very wide texture...? |
| 10:50.35 | syeren | Hmm, is there a line you can use with omniCC that makes it no display it's timers on a frame / addon? |
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| 10:51.25 | Arrowmaster | syeren: theres a size option where it wont display on frames under a certain size |
| 10:52.19 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Nevcairiel 07nev/optimization * RC3-34-g49127dd / (16 files in 3 directories): [new, +3 commits] |
| 10:52.20 | Repo | 49127dd: Refresh LDBIcon when changing profile |
| 10:52.20 | Repo | f945017: LDB and LDBIcon are now optional, however still packaged by default |
| 10:52.24 | Repo | f05465c: Remove LoadAddOn calls for all used libraries as libs are no longer LoD (and LoD behaviour will be fixed in 3.0.3) |
| 10:52.31 | syeren | As in the font size Arrowmaster? |
| 10:53.06 | Arrowmaster | its a % option i think |
| 10:53.12 | Arrowmaster | and it defaults to like 40 or 45 |
| 10:53.49 | Arrowmaster | 50 or higher and it wont display on the default ui target debuffs |
| 10:53.55 | syeren | Arrowmaster: http://imageshack.dk//viewimage.php?file=/imagesfree/BLJ36811.jpg |
| 10:53.59 | Repo | 10free-refills: 03mikk * r75 / (11 files in 2 directories): FreeRefills: |
| 10:54.00 | Repo | - WoW 3.0 |
| 10:54.00 | Repo | - Ace3-ified |
| 10:54.03 | syeren | I'm trying to not make it dislplay on oCD. |
| 10:54.08 | syeren | However haste went AFK >_< |
| 10:54.26 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 10:54.44 | orionshock | GG this blows... |
| 10:54.54 | Arrowmaster | for that you can edit the oCD code to add a field to the frame table |
| 10:55.03 | orionshock | 3 runes in MC to put out and the few of us that have em are all on 20min + CD's |
| 10:55.11 | Arrowmaster | youll have to check the omnicc code to find out what the name is i really cant remember it |
| 10:55.14 | syeren | Arrowmaster :( |
| 10:55.15 | syeren | 10:50 haste oh well, oCD won't get any bug fixes anytime soon |
| 10:56.38 | syeren | If I put it over 55%, it doesn't display on oCD, but doesn't display on BarTender either >_< |
| 10:56.48 | syeren | If CooldownModel.noCooldownCount is set or not. If so, then OmniCC won't show text for that particular frame. |
| 10:56.52 | syeren | Is what I read. |
| 10:57.09 | Arrowmaster | yeah that should do it |
| 10:57.24 | Arrowmaster | youll have to figure out how to get that set on all oCD colldownmodel frames |
| 10:57.39 | Arrowmaster | just find out where theyre created |
| 10:57.42 | odt | anyone here using arkinventory? |
| 10:57.57 | AcTiVaTe | yup |
| 10:58.09 | syeren | Arrowmaster, I know very little about lua so I guess my efforts end here :p |
| 10:58.12 | syeren | Thanks though. |
| 10:58.52 | odt | how is it possible to say that this barg should be only 1x1 in size |
| 10:58.59 | odt | and not have 10 empty slots |
| 10:59.02 | Repo | 10fu-bar_iopfu: 03Pericles * r32 .pkgmeta: FuBar_IOPFu:- |
| 10:59.03 | Repo | updated pkgmeta to require dependency on InventoryOnPar |
| 10:59.05 | Repo | 10fu-bar_dps: 03Swix * r44 / (2 files in 1 directory): add ruRU locale |
| 10:59.36 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Nevcairiel 07nev/optimization * RC3-35-g33ae87e Omen.lua: [+1 commit] Disable the Minimap Button option in the config if LDBIcon was not found |
| 10:59.43 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r73 / (6 files in 3 directories): InventoryOnPar: - |
| 10:59.44 | Repo | Added TitanInventoryOnPar as a sub module for packaging |
| 11:00.28 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles 04v11.03-titan * r74 : InventoryOnPar: - |
| 11:00.28 | Repo | Added Titan plugin to modules |
| 11:00.55 | AcTiVaTe | odt: I don't get the question really |
| 11:01.32 | Mikk | Why are people adding titan plugins anymore |
| 11:01.47 | nevcairiel | i thought titan uses LDB now |
| 11:01.52 | Mikk | It can yes |
| 11:02.05 | Mikk | So adding the titan plugin = idiocy |
| 11:02.16 | Fisker- | Anyone know if there's an addon like grindstatus that isn't grindstatus? :P |
| 11:02.40 | AcTiVaTe | odt: You can define different bars to hold different kind of slots. So assign empty slots to the bar you prefer. |
| 11:03.01 | Mikk | Ya know what we seriously should make a requirement now |
| 11:03.03 | Mikk | Being in the channel |
| 11:03.14 | Mikk | Not in the channel = your addon gets moved to curseforge |
| 11:03.20 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:03.24 | Mikk | Seriously |
| 11:03.33 | Mikk | The only difference now is the community... and if you're not being a part of it ... |
| 11:05.53 | asmodai | Fisker-: fu_grindfu? |
| 11:06.08 | vhaarr | wouldn't see me complaining |
| 11:06.09 | vhaarr | for a change |
| 11:06.10 | Fisker- | i don't liek fubar plugins too much :E |
| 11:08.02 | asmodai | You did not specify that requirement in your initial request, please try again. |
| 11:08.12 | asmodai | :P |
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| 11:08.29 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i thought titan just had a compat wrapper builtin that does sorta what broker2fubar does |
| 11:11.00 | asmodai | Man, I still need to get used to having 'mixology' for alchemy |
| 11:11.10 | asmodai | was looking at these elixer durations of 1:37 left |
| 11:11.15 | asmodai | and they only lat an hour |
| 11:11.19 | asmodai | last |
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| 11:19.52 | sacarasc | mixology is op! |
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| 11:21.01 | Torhal | Mikk: That would stop the seemingly endless influx of needless tech support. "Hi, I don't feel like using a search box or typing in the forum because I want my fix now, so give me a fix now. Thanks in advance!" |
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| 11:35.04 | orionshock | Mikk: imo, if it don't use the ace libs, should be on CF |
| 11:35.18 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:37.01 | asmodai | Mmm, does UPS deliver in Saturday? |
| 11:38.10 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:40.40 | asmodai | Well, not in NL I just found out. |
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| 11:40.55 | asmodai | Oh well |
| 11:41.02 | asmodai | Waiting a few more days for the PIL book. |
| 11:45.20 | Wobin | wtf is mixology? |
| 11:45.38 | nevcairiel | passive buff for alchemists |
| 11:45.41 | quiescens | hax |
| 11:47.41 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r654 / (16 files in 2 directories): -- Fix direct drag onto a button |
| 11:47.42 | Repo | -- Switch from fubarplugin to LibDBIcon-1.0 for minimap icon support |
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| 11:53.58 | Mikk | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14903 <- stickied in the broker forum |
| 11:54.04 | Mikk | ^ Where to point people with questions |
| 11:55.16 | Mikk | orionshock: Hmmmm nah that's a bit OTT for me. Being part of the community is more of what it is about imo. I mean, some addons just don't make sense to even have libs in. This includes !BugGrabber for one very obvious example. |
| 11:57.54 | quiescens | that's kind of a special case though |
| 11:59.13 | Torhal | I thought this was a "developer commmunity", not a "use this framework or go away" community :P |
| 12:00.18 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 12:00.33 | [SW]Dodge | Torhal: maybe its a dev com only for devs who use this framework :D (haha i dunno^^) |
| 12:00.33 | Arrowmaster | so its the developers that dont participate in the community that should go away |
| 12:01.32 | quiescens | how exactly do you supposedly use buttonbin to put everything into a minimap icon |
| 12:01.37 | [SW]Dodge | lua> 1 >=1 |
| 12:01.37 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: true |
| 12:01.40 | [SW]Dodge | lua> 1 >1 |
| 12:01.40 | lua_bot | [SW]Dodge: false |
| 12:01.43 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 12:01.44 | quiescens | I'm not sure it does that any more |
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| 12:02.19 | Torhal | quiescens: If you want everything as a minimap icon, use Barrel |
| 12:02.25 | Torhal | Not ButtonBin |
| 12:02.49 | quiescens | I'm technically pointing that to mikk |
| 12:02.50 | quiescens | lol |
| 12:03.08 | Torhal | Ah, ok. Heh |
| 12:04.27 | Torhal | Mikk: Yah, just read the post. Barrel does the minimap icon thinger. ButtonBin is pretty configurable - can make a "bin" of icons, or use three "bins" to approximate a FuBar setup with icons/text |
| 12:05.27 | Torhal | Anywho: Off to work. |
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| 12:11.47 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9056.12 * 4522607 /: [new tag] Tagging as b1.9056.12 |
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| 12:12.19 | Mikk | Oho, Barrel makes minimap herpes? |
| 12:12.22 | Mikk | Yeah that should be added |
| 12:13.29 | Repo | 10reverse-engineering: 03wobin * r39 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added tag v3.1-Release for changeset 4504b57927d6 |
| 12:13.30 | Repo | Modified for 3.02 |
| 12:14.04 | quiescens | I think its more that buttonbin doesn't appear to do minimap |
| 12:14.14 | quiescens | as far as we know |
| 12:14.40 | quiescens | so adding barrel to the list for people that do want to use the minimap is probably helpful |
| 12:14.42 | Mikk | I thought that buttonbin was a minimap button with stuff inside it |
| 12:15.13 | quiescens | current version doesn't appear to be |
| 12:16.41 | nevcairiel | ButtonBin was originally a "bin" for buttons, but then extended to also allow non-button plugins |
| 12:16.53 | nevcairiel | but not really a minimap thing |
| 12:16.53 | Mikk | So a correct description for it would be? |
| 12:17.08 | nevcairiel | I dunno, get NeoTron to supply one =P |
| 12:18.03 | nevcairiel | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw17019.jpg http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw17020.jpg |
| 12:18.09 | nevcairiel | it can show it however you want, really |
| 12:18.14 | nevcairiel | can replace fubar behaviour, too |
| 12:19.41 | Mikk | Erm wow yeah that's not what I thought it was |
| 12:20.33 | Julith | can it be that tagging currently doesn't work? |
| 12:20.50 | nevcairiel | the whole packager is broken |
| 12:20.54 | nevcairiel | and everyone is asleep |
| 12:20.59 | nevcairiel | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:21.33 | Julith | ah, ok |
| 12:23.06 | [SW]Dodge | i wonder if the packager will ever be stable :D |
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| 12:34.26 | Fisker- | ah wtf |
| 12:34.29 | Fisker- | another paly nerf |
| 12:34.45 | Fisker- | *Starts actually trying to heal someone* |
| 12:34.55 | Fisker- | *Oh whats this, 10 people aiming at me all of the sudden?* |
| 12:34.58 | TNSe | hey, Fisker-, havent' you heard? |
| 12:35.13 | Fisker- | *Divine shield Divine shield Divine shield Divine shield, why doesn't this work?* |
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| 12:35.22 | Fisker- | Oh, they added forbearance to Avenging wrath |
| 12:35.25 | Fisker- | Thanks blizzard! |
| 12:35.32 | TNSe | "ret pallies on autoattack does more damage than untalented warrior on auto attack, so we decided to nerf ret paladins some more. This may seem unfair, but paladins CAN spec holy or prot." |
| 12:35.58 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: you just need to l2p, then |
| 12:36.53 | TNSe | I think its just blizzard realizing that in order to get enough healers, they have to nerf ret paladins |
| 12:36.59 | TNSe | since arch druid is still not complete. |
| 12:37.00 | quiescens | they should do something like the broom and headless horseman mount for all the flying mounts |
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| 12:37.30 | quiescens | it would save the need for everyone to have mount macros |
| 12:37.34 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 12:38.29 | Bruners | Fisker-: uhm, they always had that |
| 12:38.40 | quiescens | not always |
| 12:38.44 | Fisker- | er no |
| 12:38.55 | Bruners | since tbc atleast |
| 12:39.02 | Fisker- | They removed forbearance from avenging wrath in 3.x |
| 12:39.08 | Fisker- | also had it removed at some other point i believe |
| 12:39.09 | Bruners | or as long as i have played paladin |
| 12:39.16 | quiescens | well |
| 12:39.23 | quiescens | first forbearance didn't really exist at all |
| 12:39.33 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: if you dont realize it adds forbearance and then stand there failing your shield, its your own damn fault =P |
| 12:39.48 | quiescens | then it existed on avenging wrath as well as all immunity effects |
| 12:39.56 | Fisker- | how the fuck should i know that they have put in avenging wrath on forbearance? |
| 12:40.05 | nevcairiel | Fisker-: read forums |
| 12:40.10 | quiescens | and then in 3.0 they dropped forbearance from avenging wrath alongside a reduction in avenging wrath's effect |
| 12:40.24 | Bruners | a 20% dmg/heal buff would be OP if it didnt give any debuff |
| 12:40.24 | quiescens | and then they hotfixed avenging wrath to have forbearance again |
| 12:40.38 | Fisker- | First of all they didn't say that forbearance was hotfixed |
| 12:40.46 | Fisker- | they said it MIGHT be a solution if they could lower the debuff time |
| 12:40.50 | Fisker- | they didn't say they actually did it |
| 12:41.01 | nevcairiel | they just want Shield+Wings to be impossible at the same time |
| 12:41.04 | Gnarfoz | <+Mikk> Erm wow yeah that's not what I thought it was <-- you were probably thinking of MinimapButtonBag :) |
| 12:41.21 | quiescens | so it definitely hasn't "always been like that" |
| 12:41.54 | quiescens | they've pretty much gone back and forth on the matter |
| 12:42.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: if they really wanted that, why then is it that they had it only 50% of the time, then? first you could do both, then you couldn't, then you could again, now you can't, again :P |
| 12:43.19 | nevcairiel | obviously they want it now, because its abused in PvP |
| 12:43.23 | nevcairiel | not before :P |
| 12:43.25 | Gnarfoz | ohhhh right. |
| 12:43.32 | Gnarfoz | that makes no sense whatsoever |
| 12:43.41 | Fisker- | I think a more viable option would be to nerf damage while shielded |
| 12:43.48 | nevcairiel | yeah just QQ more, or quit the game already :) |
| 12:43.51 | Gnarfoz | instead of attack speed |
| 12:43.58 | TNSe | just make wings increase damage by 1%, and increase damage taken by 100% |
| 12:44.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you play a pally or a warrior and say that, please |
| 12:44.22 | nevcairiel | i play a warrior |
| 12:44.26 | quiescens | warriors r strng |
| 12:44.36 | Fisker- | "Avenging Wrath - Makes you so awesome that you poke a hole in that bubble of yours" |
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| 12:45.34 | Gnarfoz | warriors have been nerfed time and time again because of the broken rage mechanic that scales so utterly well with gear :p I don't really know why they keep nerfing paladins who don't have the same mechanic, though :D |
| 12:45.53 | nevcairiel | because they are imbalanced in pvp |
| 12:46.08 | Gnarfoz | so you nerf pve to nerf pvp |
| 12:46.11 | Gnarfoz | sounds sane |
| 12:46.17 | asmodai | I'm imbalanced in the kitchen |
| 12:46.22 | nevcairiel | well they also did too much DPS in PvE |
| 12:46.43 | Gnarfoz | they did? funny how that works out when you have blue posters saying "ret pve dps seems fine to us" :p |
| 12:46.47 | Fisker- | That's if you take Blizzard's word for it though |
| 12:46.54 | nevcairiel | unbeatable in meters with endless mana pools |
| 12:46.55 | Gnarfoz | blizz = liars! |
| 12:46.57 | nevcairiel | thats imbalanced :P |
| 12:46.58 | quiescens | technically the specific change for avenging wrath doesn't really affect pve |
| 12:47.21 | nevcairiel | we had an alt-ret in sunwell last week |
| 12:47.24 | nevcairiel | he was like place 2 in meters |
| 12:47.32 | Gnarfoz | who cares aboutl ive |
| 12:47.33 | nevcairiel | despite no sunwell gear |
| 12:47.45 | Gnarfoz | the nerfs are not active on live |
| 12:47.56 | quiescens | some of them are |
| 12:48.02 | Gnarfoz | just the very first one. |
| 12:48.04 | nevcairiel | beta is beta, dont judge it before its live |
| 12:48.06 | Gnarfoz | making DS phys dmg |
| 12:48.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: you *have* to judge beta or it will go live like it is! |
| 12:48.23 | quiescens | divine storm to physical damage, judgements of the wise reduction to 15%, |
| 12:48.31 | Gnarfoz | note that they base those numbers on using Judge/CS/DS+Consecrate which makes pallies go oom in under 2 minutes :D |
| 12:48.32 | quiescens | seal of command and judgement of command damage down 20% |
| 12:48.37 | nevcairiel | paladins QQ about every change, you dont look at it objectively anyway |
| 12:48.40 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: no, those are not on live, lol |
| 12:48.40 | quiescens | avenging wrath forbearance |
| 12:48.42 | quiescens | are live |
| 12:48.51 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 12:49.06 | Gnarfoz | ds = phys and wrath = forbearance are |
| 12:49.18 | quiescens | judgements of the wise returns 433ish mana |
| 12:49.28 | Belazor | DS to phys and SoC -20% is also on live |
| 12:49.31 | Gnarfoz | US? EU? |
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| 12:49.38 | Belazor | EU |
| 12:49.47 | quiescens | US |
| 12:49.47 | Gnarfoz | then my paladin is broken and not nerfed, yay |
| 12:49.57 | quiescens | oh, the um |
| 12:50.01 | quiescens | tooltips haven't changed mind you |
| 12:50.06 | quiescens | since its a server side hotfix |
| 12:50.07 | Gnarfoz | who cares about tooltips |
| 12:50.18 | nevcairiel | You know, there even was this paladin guy who claimed to be a math teacher, brought up some virtual numbers about mana cost and claimed he goes OOM .. of course he does, he only calced his own talents, no raid support, no potions, no synergys. No class can effective sustain alot of DPS without any raid support whatsoever <.< |
| 12:50.35 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: heard of warriors and rogues lately |
| 12:50.40 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 12:50.49 | nevcairiel | they also lack alot of DPS without raid synergys |
| 12:50.56 | Gnarfoz | rogues and warriors can sustain dps on their own, indefinitely |
| 12:51.10 | Lukian | they need group buffs for it to be effective dps though :p |
| 12:51.19 | quiescens | so does everyone ideally |
| 12:51.27 | Gnarfoz | I do tons more dps on my own on my rogue than on my pally |
| 12:51.32 | Gnarfoz | >_> |
| 12:51.47 | nevcairiel | still, you'll most likely not have a 5 minute fight solo |
| 12:51.49 | nevcairiel | only in raids |
| 12:51.54 | nevcairiel | so the calculations are way off |
| 12:52.07 | Lukian | haha true |
| 12:52.16 | Gnarfoz | in 5mans there's no support there most of the time, either |
| 12:52.25 | quiescens | mana is a minor issue for most specs in the current raid setting anyway |
| 12:52.26 | nevcairiel | 5 mans dont have long fights, either |
| 12:52.47 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 12:52.49 | quiescens | blizzard said their main concern was the effect of the essentially infinite mana in pvp |
| 12:52.50 | p3lim | how can I get growl from this API? GetSpellAutocast(index, bookindex) |
| 12:52.59 | p3lim | using its two args |
| 12:53.02 | thul | hmm, the retpally in my group out-dpeses me by 2x |
| 12:53.10 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: you think not having to watch your mana pool at all was balanced? |
| 12:53.13 | quiescens | something about "they aren't supposed to be warriors" |
| 12:53.39 | Gnarfoz | I'll quote discussions like this when you people are back to shunning ret paladins from groups because they have sub-par dps AND no utility. |
| 12:54.06 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no, of course not, but they're overdoing it |
| 12:54.15 | Silviu- | yay [Rivendare's Deathcharger] finnaly :P |
| 12:54.17 | nevcairiel | we took a ret in 2.4, even though alot of people QQed about their DPS |
| 12:54.33 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: probably in sunwell gear, and just for his 3% crit debuff, right? |
| 12:54.48 | Gnarfoz | and put him in the appropriate group because you couldn't justify his being there, otherwise? |
| 12:54.49 | Stanzilla | Silviu-: grats :D |
| 12:54.52 | Lukian | my guild has 1-2 and they were quality dps, because they actually knew how to play and we stacked them in the melee group. |
| 12:54.52 | Silviu- | ty |
| 12:54.56 | nevcairiel | not really, he actually managed to get some good dps out, too. you just have to give them a chance :P |
| 12:55.34 | quiescens | Lukian: numerically, back then, any ret paladin that was high on the dps meters, would have been much higher if it was a rogue or warrior with the same skill and commitment |
| 12:55.42 | quiescens | like, a difference of several hundred dps |
| 12:56.15 | thul | i play a rogue, and this retpally has 1500 dps (in a heroic 5-man, selfbuffed and shouts from war), i have measly 850 dps :-( |
| 12:56.31 | Lukian | true, but finding quality players isn't always easy :;p |
| 12:56.36 | Gnarfoz | I stand by my point, anyway. If they go on like this, ret will be back to where it was: least wanted dpser possible, with no actual raid utility and horribly boring to play because you can only afford 3 skills, and the shortest cooldown on them doesn't clear until seconds after you used the last of them. |
| 12:56.41 | quiescens | presumably you're outgeared too though thul |
| 12:56.58 | quiescens | besides, self buff probably doesn't stack with the warrior's shout |
| 12:57.17 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: you want to be able to faceroll all your skills? :p no class can do that |
| 12:57.20 | Gnarfoz | thul: "selfbuffed and shouts from war"? you do know BoM and BS don't stack |
| 12:57.34 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: uhm... read again, get a clue, talk again |
| 12:57.42 | Lukian | nevcairiel, affliction warlocks can! not much else they can do atm :D |
| 12:57.46 | Lukian | giggles |
| 12:58.25 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i did, you complain that you only have 3 spells to use. out of what? 4 or 5? I think some classes would be happy to use 3 spells in a constant rotation rather then like 1 or 2 :P |
| 12:58.32 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I can do whatever on my rogue. Because my main abilities don't have cooldowns. On my pally I hit judgement, CS, DS and then do autoattacks because there's nothing else I CAN do |
| 12:58.55 | Lukian | you can flash heal :p |
| 12:59.00 | thul | Gnarfoz: he has shout of.. the other one, command? up |
| 12:59.01 | Gnarfoz | Lukian: no, because that's a priest spell |
| 12:59.06 | thul | quiescens: that might be |
| 12:59.08 | Lukian | you can cast hand spells on people who need it :p |
| 12:59.09 | Gnarfoz | thul: that gives you +hp, so what? |
| 12:59.11 | quiescens | don't get me wrong here, I'm not against ret paladins but |
| 12:59.13 | Gnarfoz | Lukian: no I can't |
| 12:59.28 | quiescens | on average, a rogue really only hits a button every 3 seconds or so at max |
| 12:59.32 | Gnarfoz | Lukian: they use too much mana and I will stand around OOM not even being able to do DPS |
| 12:59.36 | quiescens | unless they're fighting vael or something |
| 12:59.39 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: lol, shit rogues maybe |
| 12:59.51 | nevcairiel | you are waiting for energy alot |
| 12:59.58 | Lukian | Gnarfoz, lol that's probably true without enough replenishment |
| 13:00.00 | Gnarfoz | I know I'm not waiting for energy *that* much |
| 13:00.17 | Gnarfoz | Lukian: see? paladins provide replenishment *themselves*, PLUS they get JotW mana |
| 13:00.20 | nevcairiel | you dont get every GCD out, either |
| 13:00.22 | Gnarfoz | Lukian: and it's still not enough |
| 13:00.50 | quiescens | depending on spec and procs of course |
| 13:01.05 | Gnarfoz | if you use more than Judge/CS/DS (and you're tempted to, because if you rotate these 3, you'll have 3 seconds of free time each round), you will run out :) |
| 13:01.32 | Lukian | Gnarfoz, someone should suggest runic power as a fix XD |
| 13:01.36 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 13:01.39 | Gnarfoz | or rage |
| 13:02.04 | quiescens | 40 energy to sinister strike, at say, combat spec regen of 12.5 per second, add in some amount of combat potency that I can't be bothered doing the math for |
| 13:02.06 | nevcairiel | isnt that what GC said too? you can run those 3 in a normal rotation, and consecrate with divine plea or something |
| 13:02.09 | Gnarfoz | I mean, they even give pallies this "get an instant FoL when you crit with skills" talent |
| 13:02.15 | Gnarfoz | and if you actually use it, you will run out of mana |
| 13:02.17 | Gnarfoz | what good is that? |
| 13:02.34 | thul | quiescens: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Rahivonpae <- that is the guy |
| 13:02.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: consecrate should not be a necessary dps spell... but it is. |
| 13:02.46 | quiescens | people seem to like using rogues as an example but a lot of casters probably hit buttons faster than rogues |
| 13:02.54 | thul | pfft |
| 13:02.56 | thul | hunger for blood |
| 13:02.57 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: to even be anywhere near competitive (that is: several 100 dps below others) :D |
| 13:03.23 | nevcairiel | I don't trust any numbers generated on Beta realms, anyway. most people just do it with the crappy pre-made pvp gear :P |
| 13:03.23 | quiescens | S4 weapon thul? |
| 13:03.28 | quiescens | what do you use (: |
| 13:03.59 | thul | malchazeen |
| 13:04.10 | nevcairiel | of course you suck, then :P |
| 13:04.11 | quiescens | I think that counts as being slightly outgeared |
| 13:04.13 | quiescens | lol |
| 13:04.36 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: uhm numbers on live make even less sense. also, at least for US (and it's not like blizz cares about EU in the slightest), there's separate realms to easily distinguish between pve and premades |
| 13:05.10 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Thyve - my phantastic char quiescens :-D (that is in pvp gear though:P pve gear is kara/s2/gruul/za :-P |
| 13:05.11 | Gnarfoz | "On bosses in PvE, they could hit every button that was up and still have mana left to be very high on healing meters." |
| 13:05.16 | Gnarfoz | haha, so funny |
| 13:05.22 | Gnarfoz | the healing meter crap was because of Judgement of Light |
| 13:05.27 | Gnarfoz | which costs us... basically nothing |
| 13:05.33 | nevcairiel | well the point is, they could |
| 13:05.36 | Gnarfoz | it's not like we were going around casting HL on people |
| 13:05.37 | nevcairiel | not the effect on the meters |
| 13:05.38 | Lukian | heh I wonder if they took that into account |
| 13:05.44 | evl | CF packager still down? |
| 13:05.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: he SAYS it was the effect on the meters |
| 13:06.28 | p3lim | I need some help using GetSpellAutocast(). Here is what I have so far: http://pastey.net/100316 |
| 13:06.33 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r655 AutoBarCategory.lua: -- Remove Sanctity Aura |
| 13:06.36 | nevcairiel | that was only a side comment, the main point was that you didnt run out of mana while pushing all your buttons .. and you know how nerfs work, they go a bit too far, then back it up a few percent, and its usually good |
| 13:06.45 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 13:06.54 | Gnarfoz | and from experience, the "back up part" takes months |
| 13:06.57 | Gnarfoz | while the nerf part takes days |
| 13:07.04 | nevcairiel | its been getting better |
| 13:07.10 | p3lim | anyone? |
| 13:07.11 | nevcairiel | not like BC start or something |
| 13:07.27 | Gnarfoz | yeah, because people learned from BC start and now keep whining at maximum volume the whole time |
| 13:07.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 13:08.57 | Gnarfoz | and honestly, it seems like they're desperately turning every knob they can find to tone ret pallies down, because they have no clue at all what the problem is |
| 13:09.42 | quiescens | on an unrelated note, the protector of the pack thing scaling with the number of people in your group is silly |
| 13:09.52 | quiescens | especially since it counts people even if they're offline or out of range |
| 13:09.58 | nevcairiel | the QQ about it is even more silly |
| 13:10.10 | nevcairiel | not like you ever need it without a full group :P |
| 13:10.11 | Gnarfoz | that last part seems like an obvious bug? |
| 13:10.12 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 13:10.23 | quiescens | it sounds a little arbitrary though |
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| 13:10.46 | Gnarfoz | heh a friend of mine just suggested that they have in their SCM/VCS a pre-commit hook that changes *something* about paladins automatically on each checkin |
| 13:10.52 | Groktar | takes off his pants and shakes it for Gnarfoz |
| 13:11.52 | quiescens | what they need to do is quietly drop their damage by 1% per patch |
| 13:12.06 | quiescens | so that people won't notice, but by the next expansion, they will do 0 damage |
| 13:12.10 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 13:13.38 | Srosh | What's the easiest way using the WoW API to check if the player is in a battleground? (Which doesn't matter.) |
| 13:14.00 | Gnarfoz | there's an instance check function |
| 13:14.04 | Gnarfoz | that returns if it's a BG |
| 13:14.05 | Gnarfoz | IIRC |
| 13:14.09 | Gnarfoz | ~wowprogramming |
| 13:14.10 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons (http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob) a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 13:14.23 | nevcairiel | IsInInstance() |
| 13:14.28 | Gnarfoz | Srosh: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsInInstance |
| 13:14.44 | Srosh | Ah, ok, thanks. Was looking at the BG functions. |
| 13:14.54 | Gnarfoz | funny how they made that available after years of having to check manually |
| 13:14.55 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 13:15.18 | nevcairiel | i dunno when it was added, but its been in for a long time |
| 13:15.54 | nevcairiel | 2.0 i think |
| 13:16.02 | Gnarfoz | that'd be 2 years of checking manually, then |
| 13:16.02 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 13:16.17 | Groktar | less that two years |
| 13:16.24 | Groktar | bgs weren't out at release |
| 13:16.25 | Groktar | >.> |
| 13:16.30 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 13:16.34 | Gnarfoz | 1.5 |
| 13:16.35 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 13:16.46 | Gnarfoz | but patches have slowed down *a lot* since then |
| 13:16.51 | Groktar | ya |
| 13:17.38 | Gnarfoz | oh and regarding the two armory links from earlier: saying "uh my rogue does half that paladins dps, they should be nerfed" is exactly what makes no sense at all ;D |
| 13:21.24 | quiescens | p3lim? |
| 13:21.46 | quiescens | anyway |
| 13:22.04 | quiescens | p3lim : you can just do GetSpellAutocast("Growl", "pet") |
| 13:22.06 | quiescens | or something |
| 13:22.34 | quiescens | instead of using an actual index |
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| 13:36.18 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r656 libs/: -- Remove FubarPlugin |
| 13:38.36 | p3lim | quiescens: you can? |
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| 13:40.02 | p3lim | nice |
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| 13:43.26 | Groktar | yay |
| 13:43.40 | Groktar | i finally got my site to look exactly the same in ie, chrome, firefox, and safari |
| 13:43.42 | Groktar | happydance |
| 13:44.03 | pastamancer | you forgot opera! |
| 13:44.30 | Groktar | that costs money, doesn't it? |
| 13:44.37 | pastamancer | nope |
| 13:44.40 | Groktar | o |
| 13:44.53 | CrazyBenny | they released it as free long time ago |
| 13:45.18 | Groktar | it's probably gonna be soooo broken |
| 13:47.10 | Groktar | cool |
| 13:47.11 | Stanzilla | <3 opera |
| 13:47.27 | Groktar | now if i only i can fix the banner on top of resized images |
| 13:47.53 | Lukian | if your site is standards compliant it'll render fine in Opera :p |
| 13:48.01 | Groktar | i guess z-index doesn't work on flash |
| 13:48.03 | Groktar | :( |
| 13:48.07 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net |
| 13:48.15 | Groktar | click the first picture |
| 13:48.21 | Lukian | aye it doesn't, I also think it's an IE-only property :p |
| 13:48.27 | Groktar | is it? |
| 13:48.51 | pastamancer | z-index works in ff |
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| 13:48.59 | quiescens | z-index is standard |
| 13:49.16 | Groktar | i still can't figure out how to get flash to behave |
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| 13:49.37 | Industrial | whip it |
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| 13:51.14 | quiescens | you're recruiting 1 arms death knight and 1 holy warrior? |
| 13:51.16 | thul | can blizard FOR FUCKS SAKE FIX TAB TARETING |
| 13:51.16 | thul | ffs |
| 13:51.18 | thul | I hate it |
| 13:51.23 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03StingerSoft * r120 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: ruRU update (fix typo in Ragefire Chasm) |
| 13:51.39 | Groktar | quiescens: yes |
| 13:51.50 | Groktar | and resto hunters and prot mages |
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| 13:51.59 | quiescens | I've always wanted a prot mage |
| 13:52.08 | pastamancer | damn, my priest is specced prot, not my mage |
| 13:52.19 | quiescens | they only want elemental priests |
| 13:52.35 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.1.2-18-g29f204b / (11 files in 3 directories): [+5 commits] (1 truncated) |
| 13:52.36 | Repo | 29f204b: Moved Hotkey and MacroText handling to the ButtonBar prototype and show the Hotkey on Pet and Stance Bar (default off) |
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| 13:52.38 | Repo | f4ee55d: Fixed removing of keybinds from Stance and Pet bar |
| 13:52.39 | Industrial | my shadow shaman > your elemental priest |
| 13:52.42 | Repo | fe16bbc: Disable and hide all other bars that Bartender4 replaces |
| 13:52.45 | Groktar | we also have Lotharr's Mom on farm status |
| 13:52.48 | Repo | d03e403: Updated Forum Link in the FAQ |
| 13:53.34 | Groktar | what is repo on about? |
| 13:53.56 | quiescens | it looks like a commit |
| 13:54.28 | Groktar | what's with the "d03e403:" stuff |
| 13:54.30 | quiescens | looks like git file id's |
| 13:54.33 | Groktar | haven't seen them like that before |
| 13:54.34 | Groktar | o |
| 13:54.40 | charon | Groktar: git commit sha1s |
| 13:54.42 | charon | (abbreviated) |
| 13:55.10 | Groktar | guess i've never seen a git commit before |
| 13:55.11 | Groktar | lol |
| 13:55.14 | charon | nev did a 5-commit push, so it lists the first 4 of them as '1234567: commit subject line here' |
| 13:55.22 | charon | (or actually, the last/newest 4) |
| 13:56.11 | thul | FOR FUCKS SAKE |
| 13:56.17 | nevcairiel | you should make it randomly show the full sha1 |
| 13:56.25 | nevcairiel | that would be fun |
| 13:56.25 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:56.27 | thul | how hard can it be to make a tab targeting that is remotely functional? |
| 13:56.28 | Groktar | stats thul |
| 13:56.35 | p3lim | hm new issue, why doesnt this work: http://pastey.net/100321 |
| 13:56.37 | Groktar | stabs thul |
| 13:56.40 | nevcairiel | thul: tab targeting works fine |
| 13:56.43 | thul | no:( |
| 13:57.08 | p3lim | oh.. gotta fix attributes, silly me |
| 13:57.10 | nevcairiel | p3lim: because you do it wrong |
| 13:57.14 | charon | hits nevcairiel with a 04014df6541afe1df7698079b1847056b392980f |
| 13:57.26 | nevcairiel | type = macrotext, macro = your macro |
| 13:57.56 | nevcairiel | or was it other way around |
| 13:57.59 | nevcairiel | i forget |
| 13:58.03 | nevcairiel | but anyway, you never set type |
| 13:58.08 | p3lim | yeah i just forgot the main attribute |
| 13:58.22 | quiescens | quick nev, rainbow charon's hash |
| 13:59.11 | p3lim | 'A macro script has been blocked from an action only avalible to the Blizzard UI.' |
| 13:59.13 | p3lim | odd |
| 13:59.22 | p3lim | I click the actual button, shouldnt be blocked |
| 13:59.38 | charon | quiescens: well, that was 'echo trout | g hash-object -t blob --stdin' |
| 13:59.46 | charon | whoops, alias g=git |
| 14:00.59 | nevcairiel | a sha'ed trout |
| 14:00.59 | quiescens | nerf trouts |
| 14:00.59 | nevcairiel | oh noes |
| 14:01.46 | p3lim | nevcairiel: got any clue why its blocked? |
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| 14:03.42 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle * r196 SimpleSelfRebuff.lua: Hopefully fixed tracking detection when shifting into cat. |
| 14:04.51 | Repo | 10broker_cast: 03Lastrite * r2 Broker_CasterStats.lua: in |
| 14:05.10 | Repo | 10broker_cast: 03Lastrite * r3 Broker_CasterStats.toc: in |
| 14:05.39 | Repo | 10broker_cast: 03Lastrite * r5 LibStub.lua: in |
| 14:06.47 | dracula | Zeksie: a while ago I've posted a tiny patch for the hp text on unitframes in healer mode, would you consider adding it? or perhaps even as a third healer mode? |
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| 14:07.44 | dracula | it's very useful to have unit's missing hp, but I really want to see ppl's max hp as well |
| 14:08.15 | pastamancer | I don't really find that necessary |
| 14:09.43 | dracula | so that's why I changed it so it would display something like 1619412 05-3122 |
| 14:10.13 | dracula | or just 1619412 if the unit was at 100% |
| 14:11.01 | quiescens | pet autocast logic seems so messed up at the moment |
| 14:12.32 | kadrahil | i had an issue where my cat would go into prowl every time it appeared |
| 14:12.37 | kadrahil | even though prowl was toggled off |
| 14:12.49 | kadrahil | in both the spell book and if i dragged it out to the pet bar, the pet bar too |
| 14:13.00 | kadrahil | it would toggle itself back on, heh |
| 14:13.14 | kadrahil | it eventually fixed itself |
| 14:13.14 | quiescens | yeah, the workaround for things automatically going back to autocast is to have the abilities that you actually want autocast off for, in your pet bat |
| 14:13.36 | kadrahil | yeah that's what i was saying, even with it out on my pet bar it would still go back to autocast |
| 14:13.48 | kadrahil | and go into prowl whenever it appeared... which was stupid |
| 14:14.28 | Pneumatus | will enabling the taintlog show why im getting: Interface\FrameXML\SecureHandlers.lua:511: Cannot use SecureHandlers API during combat: |
| 14:14.46 | kadrahil | and it did that on both of my hunters |
| 14:15.14 | Groktar | taints your spellbooks |
| 14:15.16 | kadrahil | Pneumatus: no idea :( i'm not a lua/wow coder |
| 14:16.08 | kadrahil | anyway back to finishing hellfire and zangarmarsh on my alt today |
| 14:16.34 | Pneumatus | Ackis: fix ARL taint plx :P |
| 14:16.53 | kadrahil | and wishing this freaking bad headache would go away |
| 14:17.43 | Pneumatus | mental note, never set taintlog to 2 again |
| 14:17.45 | Groktar | http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/bc/Failcat.jpg |
| 14:17.51 | Groktar | poor kitty :( |
| 14:18.25 | Repo | 10broker_cast: 03Lastrite 04v1.1 * r7 : Tagging as v1.1. |
| 14:20.45 | Adys | after which SSC boss is the guy from the attunement qline? |
| 14:21.00 | Groktar | flk |
| 14:21.09 | Adys | cheers |
| 14:21.49 | Groktar | picks his nose and eats it |
| 14:22.19 | Industrial | you ate your own nose? gross |
| 14:22.47 | Groktar | sighs |
| 14:24.09 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03Adirelle * r160 Categories/Threat.lua: Fixed docs of Threat tags. |
| 14:24.57 | Pneumatus | is there an addon around that will record the highest and lowest amount damaged/healed with a spell over a period of time? |
| 14:25.12 | kadrahil | recount? |
| 14:25.21 | Pneumatus | recount only does highest, doesnt it? |
| 14:25.27 | kenlyric | nope |
| 14:25.33 | kenlyric | highest, lowest, and average |
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| 14:26.36 | Pneumatus | ah yeh i see it now, cheers :) |
| 14:27.02 | Pneumatus | off to the beta realm where i can respec for free to try and get some figures for drdamage for priests then! |
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| 14:31.15 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2i_6j55bS0 |
| 14:31.22 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC3-37-g717d351 / (9 files in 2 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated) |
| 14:31.22 | Repo | 717d351: Split FAQ into 2 parts due to string truncation. Update esES with new strings. |
| 14:31.23 | Repo | fb1d9f3: Disable the Minimap Button option in the config if LDBIcon was not found |
| 14:31.26 | Repo | 1b57bf6: Refresh LDBIcon when changing profile |
| 14:31.30 | Repo | 60ff765: LDB and LDBIcon are now optional, however still packaged by default |
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| 14:35.43 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03Adirelle * r1768 PitBull_MetaLayout.lua: |
| 14:35.44 | Repo | Updated Threat text templates to use latest DogTag-Unit tags. |
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| 14:43.00 | quiescens | oh fancy, JoL puts the threat on the paladin |
| 14:43.05 | quiescens | that could be funny |
| 14:43.46 | pastamancer | not like holy paladins have ever had to worry about threat |
| 14:44.02 | quiescens | ah but that's not the angle people are talking about |
| 14:44.14 | quiescens | prot paladin judges light and afk's |
| 14:44.30 | pastamancer | that sounds useful, not funny! :) |
| 14:44.33 | quiescens | JoL healing generates threat at 0.5 per hp |
| 14:44.38 | quiescens | rather than the standard paladin 0.25 |
| 14:44.46 | quiescens | righteous fury multiplies by 1.9 |
| 14:44.55 | Pneumatus | healers getting aggro for their heals, what will the crazy devs think of nezt! |
| 14:45.05 | Pneumatus | s/z/x/ |
| 14:45.17 | Pneumatus | thats not what i mean at all, purl. |
| 14:45.28 | quiescens | heh |
| 14:45.40 | Belazor | XD |
| 14:45.43 | Belazor | win |
| 14:45.48 | quiescens | anyway, sufficient raid damage |
| 14:46.09 | quiescens | and the paladin gets a hundred or so tps |
| 14:46.16 | quiescens | from each raid member that's attacking the target |
| 14:46.33 | Belazor | Note to self: Always judge Wisdom |
| 14:46.33 | pastamancer | everyone would have to be unarmed since jol only heals for what, ~200 or so every couple of seconds? |
| 14:46.48 | quiescens | its chance per hit |
| 14:47.06 | Belazor | it heals for like 400 according to the tooltip |
| 14:47.21 | quiescens | scales with the paladin's spellpower |
| 14:47.31 | Groktar | i don't see why the pally would get threat for everyone in the raid tho |
| 14:47.39 | Belazor | I has 510 SP on my lv70 padalin |
| 14:47.43 | quiescens | because they're healing everyone |
| 14:48.03 | Groktar | that sounds like it would be right up there with blessing of wisdom on razorgore |
| 14:48.14 | Belazor | they fucked over Sanctified Wrath too |
| 14:48.19 | pastamancer | I think there's a cooldown for it |
| 14:48.25 | pastamancer | jol that is |
| 14:48.28 | Belazor | they stealth nerfed it to not bypass damage reduction effects anymore |
| 14:48.29 | quiescens | nah |
| 14:48.46 | Pneumatus | s/stealth nerfed/fixed/ |
| 14:48.56 | Gnarfoz | how's that a fix :p |
| 14:48.57 | Belazor | trolls -> thattaway |
| 14:51.07 | Groktar | yay, i finally finished doing all the stupid buttons |
| 14:51.15 | quiescens | grats |
| 14:51.29 | Groktar | i never realized how many buttons phpbb has |
| 14:51.35 | Belazor | phpBB sucks |
| 14:51.47 | Belazor | then again the AW change and this change doesn't affect PvE much, and as long as they don't touch my raid viability Ill still play Paladin as my main |
| 14:52.12 | Groktar | idk, i like its template system |
| 14:52.22 | Belazor | Im a vBulletin fanboi ;p |
| 14:52.36 | Groktar | never used it |
| 14:52.42 | Groktar | licensing :( |
| 14:52.59 | Belazor | For the past 3 years, other people have been renewing my licence |
| 14:53.00 | Belazor | XD |
| 14:53.06 | Groktar | hawt |
| 14:53.41 | Belazor | I point my licence to their url, they give me money, I can still dev against newest version of vB for free. Win ;D |
| 14:53.52 | Groktar | :) |
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| 14:55.54 | Belazor | I owe it to vB that I have an interest in programming, I forced myself to learn PHP to convert an RPG script to vB back 4 years ago XD |
| 14:56.03 | Groktar | ah |
| 14:59.36 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC3-38-g4c7ae9b Omen.lua: [+1 commit] Apply a whole list of configuration settings that were forgotten on changing profiles. |
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| 15:01.27 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 15:01.55 | Pneumatus | does haste affect the amount of spellpower a spell gets? |
| 15:02.02 | Pneumatus | due to the shorter casting time |
| 15:02.21 | pastamancer | IIRC it's always based on the base casting time |
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| 15:02.57 | Gnarfoz | what pasta said. |
| 15:03.11 | Pneumatus | i'd guess if you heavily stacked haste and your spellpower coefficients dropped, you could end up really gimping spells :> |
| 15:04.11 | pastamancer | it would also make talents that reduce casting time on certain spells less desirable |
| 15:08.16 | Zeksie | well... that's really screwed me up.. Seems there's no combat log event for incidental debuffs (apply crippling poison for example, and get Savage Combat applied)... :| |
| 15:08.27 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 041.1-beta1 * 209ee7e /: [new tag, +10 commits] (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 15:08.27 | Repo | - Resolving tickets: |
| 15:08.28 | Repo | -- 3 (tooltip in combat) |
| 15:08.31 | Repo | -- 4 (profile support) |
| 15:08.35 | Repo | -- 7 (hide tooltip on click) |
| 15:08.35 | Pneumatus | Zeksie: even in UNFILTERED? |
| 15:08.41 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07dev * 1.05-8-g98e314b / (12 files in 4 directories): [+11 commits] (7 truncated) |
| 15:08.45 | Repo | 98e314b: Some more work |
| 15:08.47 | Zeksie | only using unfiltered |
| 15:08.49 | Repo | 4046891: Merge branch 'master' into dev |
| 15:08.53 | Repo | fdd9ca1: - startet coding in Block.lua |
| 15:08.57 | Repo | 340c444: - added ignoreLaunchers option (still needs translation) |
| 15:08.58 | Zeksie | re-checking to be certain.. but i'm pretty sure |
| 15:09.01 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1-beta1 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated) |
| 15:09.06 | Repo | 326e160: - hide tooltip on click (ticket #7) |
| 15:09.10 | Repo | 0d8cf57: - changed default profile name to 'Default' (ticket #8) |
| 15:09.14 | Repo | 35a8d54: -Updated enUS and deDE |
| 15:09.18 | Repo | c709cbe: - done (-: |
| 15:10.34 | Fisker- | ~seen nymbia |
| 15:10.37 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 14h 38m 9s ago, saying: 'lUa?'. |
| 15:10.51 | charon | ~seen borlox |
| 15:10.52 | purl | charon: i haven't seen 'borlox' |
| 15:11.10 | charon | :( |
| 15:12.46 | Zeksie | Pneumatus: yep. doubled checked. Savage Combat shows up in no events at all in combat log.. |
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| 15:14.16 | Zeksie | really fucked off... spent all yesterday writing a combat log engine for utopia to track who applies debuffs, the rank of it etc. so the Utopia info is correct... and.... GAH! |
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| 15:15.41 | nevcairiel | doesnt leave a debuff? |
| 15:15.55 | Zeksie | sure it does. but the whole point was to see WHO did it |
| 15:16.18 | Zeksie | now i'm gonna have to check unit_aura AND the ocmbat log, instead of just log. |
| 15:16.22 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
| 15:16.24 | Pneumatus | hmm, is there a way to make recount gather data out of combat? |
| 15:16.35 | nevcairiel | ah, no spell_aura_applied on it? |
| 15:16.40 | Zeksie | right |
| 15:16.41 | nevcairiel | i would call that a bug |
| 15:16.45 | nevcairiel | report it :p |
| 15:16.55 | Zeksie | i'm picking up the crippling poison just fine, but nothing with savage combat ever... |
| 15:16.59 | Zeksie | in ANY event |
| 15:17.34 | Zeksie | report it... funny. noone listens to EU forums. |
| 15:17.49 | nevcairiel | get someone to post it on US |
| 15:18.00 | Zeksie | thanks :) |
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| 15:19.01 | Zeksie | gonna see if the case is same for other incidental debuffs first. |
| 15:19.23 | quiescens | doesn't appear to be |
| 15:19.23 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r213 Modules/Spell_Cooldowns.lua: fix for arcane barrage |
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| 15:25.25 | Zeksie | Heart of the Crusader has an CL event just fine.. so I expect Savage Combat is an ommision |
| 15:28.10 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 15:28.17 | Pneumatus | why do i get this feeling flash heal is bugged |
| 15:28.33 | Pneumatus | or spiritual guidance is bugged |
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| 15:33.09 | Bruners | anyone found a neat trick for rogues shadow dance? |
| 15:33.49 | Zeksie | awkward thing about that would be that you'd have to rebind your stealth only keys to a non stealth bar.. |
| 15:34.28 | Bruners | thats why im wondering if anyone has found some tricks for it :P |
| 15:34.49 | Groktar | pounces you |
| 15:34.55 | Pneumatus | hmm, empowered healing may be additive rather than multiplicative |
| 15:34.58 | Pneumatus | that could explain it |
| 15:35.01 | Zeksie | Trauma works too.. it's only Savage Combat that I can tell :| |
| 15:35.10 | Groktar | Pneumatus: yes |
| 15:35.10 | Zeksie | know of any other incidental debuffs? |
| 15:35.35 | Bruners | dodges |
| 15:35.36 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1031 GridLocale-ruRU.lua: restored ruRU locale |
| 15:35.38 | Repo | 10glyphrecolor: 03kilrogg * r9 / (3 files in 1 directory): % added new border texture |
| 15:35.39 | Repo | % distinguish between major and minor glyphs |
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| 15:42.19 | Bruners | are custom conditions supposed to work in BT4? |
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| 15:45.59 | Groktar | shit |
| 15:46.12 | Groktar | i was going to vote against all incumbents |
| 15:46.29 | Groktar | and all the incumbents were either running unopposed or the seat was open |
| 15:46.30 | Groktar | :( |
| 15:46.39 | Groktar | so i voted myself for congress |
| 15:46.40 | Groktar | lulz |
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| 15:51.42 | cncfanatics | anyone else very bored :p |
| 15:51.51 | cncfanatics | , ;lk, |
| 15:52.12 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 15:52.27 | cncfanatics | 5pm ftl |
| 15:52.42 | quiescens | excuses |
| 15:55.23 | Gnarfoz | pokes a wet finger into Groktar's ear |
| 15:55.57 | cncfanatics | puts Groktar's hair on fire |
| 15:56.08 | nevcairiel | Bruners: they are supposed to work, and do so for me, yes |
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| 15:57.12 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen ag` |
| 15:57.14 | purl | ag` <n=Andreas@90.185.136.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 14h 18m 18s ago, saying: 'Gngsk, looking in the c2c options now I do seem to have macro name option for mouse clicks?'. |
| 15:58.03 | EthanCentaurai | dammit |
| 15:58.45 | Bruners | nevcairiel: i just tried the [combat]show;fade from the |
| 15:58.45 | Bruners | nevcairiel: i just tried the [combat]show;fade from the Custom State Header |
| 15:58.55 | nevcairiel | that should work fine |
| 15:59.01 | Bruners | how the hell did that happend |
| 15:59.03 | nevcairiel | if you tick the "enable" checkbox |
| 16:01.10 | Bruners | nevcairiel: nothing happeds :( |
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| 16:02.06 | Bruners | not fade atleast, hide do hide it |
| 16:02.45 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 16:02.46 | nevcairiel | tests |
| 16:03.03 | nevcairiel | You did it in the visibilty tab, yes? |
| 16:03.14 | Bruners | yep |
| 16:03.27 | nevcairiel | hm works fine for me |
| 16:03.40 | nevcairiel | "Use custom conditionals" is ticked? |
| 16:03.51 | Fisker- | why you looking for ag` EthanCentaurai ? |
| 16:04.14 | EthanCentaurai | Fisker-: because I arseraped FacadeBuffs and made it work |
| 16:04.29 | EthanCentaurai | >:3 |
| 16:04.45 | Fisker- | i'll get him to join |
| 16:04.49 | Bruners | nevcairiel: yep, nothing checked except enabled on general settings |
| 16:04.58 | Fisker- | OR DIE TRYING |
| 16:05.37 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1-beta1-1-g034492f Options.lua: [+1 commit] - plugin options are now sorted. |
| 16:06.57 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1-beta1-2-g236af3b Options.lua: [+1 commit] - removed debug messages from Options.lua |
| 16:07.07 | nevcairiel | Bruners: the fields above did grey out? |
| 16:07.23 | Bruners | nevcairiel: yes |
| 16:07.31 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03ananhaid 06bartender4-zh 07master * 4.1.2-19-ga049e1b locale/zhCN.lua: [+1 commit] Signed-off-by: ananhaid <ananhaid@gmail.com> |
| 16:07.56 | charon | ^ win |
| 16:08.05 | charon | how can you make an empty commit message with an SOB? |
| 16:09.04 | nevcairiel | wow a translator that does Git right |
| 16:09.23 | Bruners | nevcairiel: http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_110108_170841.jpg |
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| 16:09.55 | nevcairiel | thats what i tried just now, and it fades it out |
| 16:10.05 | nevcairiel | what did you set your fade alpha too? |
| 16:10.07 | nevcairiel | on the general tab |
| 16:10.39 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: meaning that you'll from now on pull the zhCN.lua file from that clone? or how does it work 'right'? |
| 16:10.41 | Bruners | nevcairiel: http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/WoWScrnShot_110108_171008.jpg |
| 16:11.19 | charon | Gnarfoz: actually, he'll pull the entire history, you don't really care about files in git. but the less nit-picking answer is: yes. |
| 16:11.31 | nevcairiel | Bruners: see, there is your reason :D you have fade-out alpha to 1, which is the same as not fade |
| 16:11.37 | nevcairiel | i probably should not gray that field out |
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| 16:11.51 | Gnarfoz | charon: history meaning what? I doubt he wants to pull Bartender4.lua from there, too? |
| 16:11.53 | Repo | 10adavak: 03ananhaid 07master * d305cc3 / (330 files in 5 directories): [new, +38 commits] (34 truncated) |
| 16:11.53 | Repo | d305cc3: zhCN update. |
| 16:11.54 | Repo | 6021d75: Signed-off-by: ananhaid <ananhaid@gmail.com> |
| 16:11.57 | Repo | 3f4e8bd: Skinner: Obsoleted AucExtras & SpellBinder skins |
| 16:12.01 | Repo | ffc3f13: Skinner: Skinned Analyst, Cartographer3, DoubleWideTradeSkills & LibSimpleOptions |
| 16:12.07 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: git is smrt |
| 16:12.30 | charon | Gnarfoz: well what "really" happens is that you do a three-way merge between the common ancestor, nev's newest, and anahaid's newest |
| 16:12.32 | Gnarfoz | lol 330files in 5 dirs |
| 16:12.39 | charon | which merges the zhCN.lua changes into whatever nev did in the meantime |
| 16:12.49 | Bruners | nevcairiel: that fixed it :P |
| 16:13.22 | Gnarfoz | charon: so when ananhaid touches Bartender4.lua in his -zh clone, it will try to merge it with nev's stuff? |
| 16:13.27 | charon | yeah |
| 16:13.28 | Bruners | nevcairiel: but yes, those fields shouldnt be greyed out :P |
| 16:13.39 | Gnarfoz | charon: that sounds... bad |
| 16:13.41 | nevcairiel | yeah i'll change it |
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| 16:13.50 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: its not automated |
| 16:13.54 | nevcairiel | and i verify it |
| 16:13.57 | charon | Gnarfoz: how so? nev is supposed to check that there's nothing bad in that commit |
| 16:14.10 | Gnarfoz | so he can only ever pull single commits? |
| 16:14.29 | nevcairiel | i can pull the full history if i want |
| 16:14.31 | nevcairiel | or single commits |
| 16:14.33 | Gnarfoz | forward, too? |
| 16:14.36 | charon | in the general case, he'd review the entire history and then pull it all in a single go |
| 16:14.50 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.1.2-21-gd96d0ae / (4 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 16:14.51 | Repo | d96d0ae: Merge commit 'zh/master' |
| 16:14.52 | Repo | 170a11c: Tweaks to the state and visibility configuration |
| 16:14.54 | Repo | a049e1b: Signed-off-by: ananhaid <ananhaid@gmail.com> |
| 16:15.00 | Gnarfoz | i.e. pull stuff that's gonna be there some time in the future, i.e. when localization is updated |
| 16:15.02 | nevcairiel | that SOB is kidna weird though |
| 16:15.26 | Gnarfoz | what purpose does a SOB have in the wow addon environment, really? |
| 16:15.38 | nevcairiel | none, probably |
| 16:15.52 | nevcairiel | I could add my SOB to translator changes to mark them as "authorized by me", but meh :P |
| 16:16.02 | charon | actually, you can't :) |
| 16:16.14 | charon | (not without rewriting history which breaks the clone repo) |
| 16:16.39 | nevcairiel | right, that only worked if i would apply diffs from other sources or so |
| 16:16.43 | charon | in git.git and linux-2.6.git, SOB is just to track the "history" of a patch while it travels as patch/email |
| 16:16.54 | charon | as soon as it goes into git land, the committer/author info is enough |
| 16:18.43 | Bruners | nevcairiel: now bar5 wont fade :S |
| 16:19.40 | Bruners | nevcairiel: but they have the excat same options |
| 16:20.41 | nevcairiel | stop breaking my addon! |
| 16:20.42 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:20.57 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r657 AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 16:20.58 | Repo | -- Suppress noob spells like Demon Skin and Frost Armor if Ice and and Demon Armor are available |
| 16:20.59 | Bruners | trying a restart |
| 16:21.18 | Repo | 10adavak: 03ananhaid 07master * 50c963e / (331 files in 5 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 16:21.19 | Repo | 50c963e: zhCN update.(Skinner) |
| 16:21.20 | Repo | 91071aa: Skinner zhCN update. |
| 16:22.30 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: SexyMap needs separate toggles for other addon's minimap buttons and the default buttons. |
| 16:24.06 | nevcairiel | lua> strsub("fade:50", 1,4) |
| 16:24.06 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'strsub' (a nil value) |
| 16:24.12 | nevcairiel | lua> string.sub("fade:50", 1,4) |
| 16:24.13 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: fade |
| 16:24.57 | Xinhuan | lua> string.sub("fade:50", -2, -1) |
| 16:24.58 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 50 |
| 16:25.03 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 16:25.37 | nevcairiel | lua> string.sub("fade:50", 5) |
| 16:25.37 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: :50 |
| 16:25.40 | nevcairiel | lua> string.sub("fade:50", 6) |
| 16:25.40 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 50 |
| 16:25.44 | nevcairiel | thats better |
| 16:25.47 | alcaras | sigh, curse client overwrote the october alpha of lil' sparky's workshop... with the jan release version, even though i have LSW set to 'alpha' wtf |
| 16:25.53 | nevcairiel | lua> string.sub("fade:500", 6) |
| 16:25.53 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 500 |
| 16:25.56 | nevcairiel | lua> string.sub("fade:5", 6) |
| 16:25.56 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 5 |
| 16:26.00 | nevcairiel | yours probably fails on those |
| 16:26.34 | Bruners | nevcairiel: restart of wow, relog, unlock bars, then disabled the bar and it starts working :P |
| 16:27.03 | nevcairiel | weird! |
| 16:27.29 | Xinhuan | i think we should start a new Knowledge Base Article |
| 16:27.35 | Xinhuan | on teaching git to translators! |
| 16:27.56 | Bruners | at one point i got button 1 bar 1 on all buttons on bar 5 |
| 16:28.17 | Zhinjio | G'morning, folks. |
| 16:28.25 | nevcairiel | Bruners: that sounds like you messed up a custom state header :P |
| 16:29.25 | alcaras | Anyone know why Curse Client chose to overwrote an October Alpha with a January release version, even though I have that mod set to 'Alpha' release? |
| 16:29.38 | Bruners | nevcairiel: it works now, so its all good |
| 16:30.19 | Xinhuan | Kaelten, ping |
| 16:30.26 | Xinhuan | packager seems broken |
| 16:30.34 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 16:30.48 | Xinhuan | needs unbreak then :) |
| 16:30.51 | Xinhuan | asap! |
| 16:31.05 | charon | drive over to kaelten's place and make him a strong coffee |
| 16:31.10 | charon | i'm sure he'll appreciate the help :p |
| 16:31.21 | alcaras | is pissed that Curse Client's "update" just broke his addons :( |
| 16:31.29 | Xinhuan | charon, any idea what's wrong? lol |
| 16:31.43 | charon | [16:53] <charon> then i'm guessing a major permission problem on the server |
| 16:31.50 | charon | join #curseforge ;) |
| 16:31.50 | nevcairiel | the repository manager seems to have crashed |
| 16:31.54 | charon | that too |
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| 16:32.33 | Xinhuan | what does the manager do? |
| 16:33.12 | nevcairiel | wee |
| 16:33.20 | nevcairiel | you can now do stuff like [mod:ctrl]fade:10;[mod:alt]fade:50;[mod:shift]fade:80;show |
| 16:33.26 | nevcairiel | and play with visibility =P |
| 16:33.29 | Bruners | nevcairiel: would it be possible to tell the bars to be visible if oPanel is expanded? |
| 16:33.51 | Xinhuan | lol nevcairiel |
| 16:34.08 | nevcairiel | people requested it, shrug |
| 16:34.12 | nevcairiel | was easy enough |
| 16:34.36 | Xinhuan | probably only 15 lines of code at most |
| 16:35.00 | Bruners | i guess it could be neat to have bars with cooldowns on and press modfier to show them |
| 16:35.02 | Xinhuan | to register the state watch, and add the code to extract the value out and set the alpha |
| 16:35.09 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.1.2-23-g9d7ed64 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 16:35.09 | Repo | 9d7ed64: Added support for specifying the fade-out alpha in the custom visibility header |
| 16:35.10 | Repo | 9adffaf: Moved Fade Out options to visibility page |
| 16:35.14 | nevcairiel | i already had fade support |
| 16:35.19 | nevcairiel | just needed to add the percent parsing |
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| 16:36.38 | alcaras | wtb working skillet or atsw + lil'sparky's workshop or some sort of reagent cost mod |
| 16:36.44 | charon | Xinhuan: not sure exactly, that one's not been opened. it appears to keep watch over the packager however |
| 16:36.46 | alcaras | lil sparky is not working with skillet _or_ atsw |
| 16:37.17 | Pneumatus | finally, tracked down the priest bug in DrDamage :> |
| 16:37.56 | Xinhuan | u know what nevcairiel, it is theoreotically possible to hardcode in a list of spells with known cooldowns, and use an OnClick wrapper to set SetTimer() to hide the button until the cooldown is over ;p |
| 16:38.11 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 16:38.19 | nevcairiel | but hard coded list is a non |
| 16:38.21 | nevcairiel | nono |
| 16:38.41 | Xinhuan | there's no way to retrieve a cooldown status from within secure code though |
| 16:38.46 | Xinhuan | so the info has to be pre-built |
| 16:38.49 | Xinhuan | if you get what i mean |
| 16:39.48 | Bruners | are you allowed to have an addon cast spells for you? |
| 16:39.54 | Xinhuan | no |
| 16:40.12 | Bruners | what could happend if you use and addon that does ? |
| 16:40.14 | Xinhuan | only blizzard code can, and blizzard code doesn't cast spells for you unless you physically press a button/keybind |
| 16:40.28 | Xinhuan | youll just get a "XYZ addon has tried to do blah blah" |
| 16:40.29 | Xinhuan | error |
| 16:40.41 | EthanCentaurai | would anyone mind if I upload a fix for FacadeBuffs? I'll ask before commiting as I don't really want to piss anyone off :/ |
| 16:40.41 | Bruners | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11381-AutoAspect.html manages to change tracking with no problem |
| 16:40.54 | Xinhuan | yes, an addon can cast spells for you when you are Out of combat |
| 16:40.56 | Xinhuan | that's why it works |
| 16:41.01 | Xinhuan | but not in combat |
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| 16:41.10 | Bruners | aha |
| 16:41.19 | Xinhuan | for most purposes, we're only interested in combat ;p |
| 16:41.22 | Xinhuan | not when out of cmbat |
| 16:41.28 | Bruners | then i misunderstood the case |
| 16:41.45 | Xinhuan | for example, you can have an addon auto swap between Detect Herbs/Ore while not in combat |
| 16:41.51 | Xinhuan | but as soon as u enter combat, it won't work anymore |
| 16:43.37 | Xinhuan | there's actually an addon somewhere that does this, using gathermate data |
| 16:43.42 | Repo | 10facade-buffs: 03ethancentaurai * r30 FacadeBuffs.lua: - Fix buff skinning for 3.0 |
| 16:43.56 | Xinhuan | it looks over the data in gathermate, and determines which direction you are looking at, and auto swaps between those 2 lol |
| 16:44.06 | Xinhuan | if it detects any new herbs/ore in front of you in an angle |
| 16:44.17 | nevcairiel | crazy addon |
| 16:44.21 | Xinhuan | think its called Tracksw |
| 16:44.23 | Bruners | thats kinda cool |
| 16:44.25 | Xinhuan | @project tracksw |
| 16:44.25 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tracksw/. Tracksw. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project Tracksw. Leader: wowaceSVN. Updated: 43 days ago |
| 16:45.04 | Xinhuan | so like, if you're flying, and in front of you is some herbs and you're on detect ore, it swaps for you ;p |
| 16:46.28 | Pneumatus | if youve got gathermate_data it must be changing like a disco or something o.O |
| 16:46.41 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 16:46.45 | Xinhuan | well to be more specific |
| 16:46.57 | Xinhuan | Gathermate has a function that returns you a list of nodes that are within X yards of you |
| 16:47.06 | Xinhuan | so what trackSw does is, it uses thislist |
| 16:47.13 | Xinhuan | and checks it regularly |
| 16:47.30 | Xinhuan | if the list changes, it swaps if necessary, but not more than once every 5 secs |
| 16:47.33 | Bruners | im guessing it changes to the track that got most nodes in range |
| 16:47.55 | Xinhuan | so if the list say, contains a new herb node, it'll swap to herb |
| 16:48.02 | Xinhuan | meaning you flew in range of a new herb |
| 16:48.32 | Bruners | going to be hell levling leatherworking and blacksmithing :S |
| 16:48.34 | Gnarfoz | @project omen |
| 16:48.34 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'omen' |
| 16:48.36 | Gnarfoz | blah |
| 16:48.48 | Gnarfoz | repo should learn to do searching |
| 16:48.48 | nevcairiel | @project omen-threat-meter |
| 16:48.48 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Authors: Nevcairiel, Antiarc, anmoch. Updated: 15 hours ago |
| 16:49.04 | Xinhuan | yeah the repo doesn't have the latest zips, silly packager is down |
| 16:49.06 | Gnarfoz | I know the full name, it's just unnecessarily annoying to type out :p |
| 16:49.29 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1032 GridStatusAuras.lua: send (de)buff duration information |
| 16:49.31 | Xinhuan | i can rename the shortname i think, to just "omen" but i'm not sure if that would break anything |
| 16:49.38 | Bruners | i have the feeling that the packager is quite often down |
| 16:49.40 | Xinhuan | would it nevcairiel? |
| 16:49.59 | nevcairiel | i think curse.com still has issues with keeping proper history |
| 16:50.16 | Bruners | curseforge says you cant change it atleast |
| 16:50.21 | Pneumatus | with @no-lib-strip@ is it now more desirable to ditch embeds.xml and just use the toc? |
| 16:50.26 | Xinhuan | Pneumatus: yes |
| 16:50.32 | Pneumatus | because its 1 less file to read? |
| 16:50.33 | nevcairiel | doesnt matter really |
| 16:50.37 | Xinhuan | one less file to load/parse is always better :) |
| 16:51.05 | Bruners | Xinhuan: just fix mr repo to handle wildcards |
| 16:51.23 | Xinhuan | repo isn't written by me |
| 16:51.25 | Bruners | Xinhuan: or show the closest match |
| 16:51.27 | Xinhuan | poke ck lol |
| 16:51.29 | Pneumatus | i still think there should be a no-lib-unstrip as well |
| 16:51.43 | nevcairiel | lib-strip then :P |
| 16:51.48 | Xinhuan | how owuld that be useful Pneumatus |
| 16:51.59 | Pneumatus | Xinhuan: setting ##Dependanicies: |
| 16:52.08 | Xinhuan | those should just be optdep |
| 16:52.11 | Xinhuan | not dep |
| 16:52.22 | Pneumatus | but they arent optional at all, if your libs are stripped |
| 16:52.22 | Pneumatus | they are mandatory |
| 16:52.57 | Xinhuan | i haven't tested this theory |
| 16:53.04 | Xinhuan | but you can probably have 2 lines in your TOC |
| 16:53.09 | Xinhuan | ##Dependanicies: and ##Dependanicies: |
| 16:53.17 | Xinhuan | one of which you strip, if embedded |
| 16:53.27 | Pneumatus | " Dependancies" should be hard dependancies, which means if they arent there your addon wont work |
| 16:53.38 | Xinhuan | i think wow reads the file line by line and overwrites if there's duplicate |
| 16:53.43 | Pneumatus | OptDeps should only be 'if you have these installed you get some extra functionality' |
| 16:54.47 | Pneumatus | but you may be right, you could make ReqDep to start with for all the libs, then in nolib-strip put a 2nd ReqDep line which is blank |
| 16:54.55 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 16:55.10 | Xinhuan | i don't know if it works btw |
| 16:55.12 | Xinhuan | i didn't test |
| 16:55.31 | Pneumatus | it would read more logically if we had a lib-strip though |
| 16:55.41 | Pneumatus | so you could lib-strip the ReqDep line |
| 16:55.44 | Xinhuan | wow could also just read the first line that matches, and ignores duplicates after |
| 16:55.46 | Xinhuan | we don't know ;p |
| 16:56.06 | Pneumatus | although, svn checkouts could be interesting |
| 16:56.10 | Xinhuan | you can probably test the behavior by setting multiple ## Title: |
| 16:56.14 | Xinhuan | and seeing which one displays |
| 16:56.46 | nevcairiel | I still think its the wrong approach. LibStub gives you a clear message if a lib is missing |
| 16:57.05 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: you have to load into the game for that though |
| 16:57.06 | nevcairiel | using some crazy lib-strip that breaks the addon completly is just wrong :P |
| 16:57.18 | Xinhuan | the TOC approach tells the user a lib is missing though, and prevents the addon from even loading |
| 16:57.24 | Pneumatus | exactly |
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| 16:57.41 | Pneumatus | which means you get feedback which libs are missing on the addon page |
| 16:57.43 | nevcairiel | I rarely look at that |
| 16:57.49 | nevcairiel | i install it, and if it yells at me, i get more libs |
| 16:57.57 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt want it any other way |
| 16:58.08 | Neffi | Has anyone worked on or is working on a new LibStub'd version of Dewdrop? |
| 16:58.16 | Xinhuan | Neffi, nobody ;p |
| 16:58.35 | Neffi | I wonder why.. People loved Dewdrop, didn't they? |
| 16:58.36 | nevcairiel | I use ingame lists for the addon management, i really never look at the addon list on login screen |
| 16:58.51 | Xinhuan | the default UI's menu system is usable, dewdrop only offered the advantages of "sliders" and "editboxes" |
| 16:58.56 | Xinhuan | over the default ui |
| 16:59.27 | Neffi | I guess I'll look into making one. I want something I can build with a simple AceOptions data table. |
| 16:59.31 | Xinhuan | there isn't anything you can do with dewdrop that you can't with default ui's system |
| 16:59.34 | Neffi | Just to keep config setup simple |
| 16:59.37 | Xinhuan | apart from slider/editbox |
| 17:00.04 | Zhinjio | wow. CTD from WIM |
| 17:00.05 | Zhinjio | how lame |
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| 17:00.35 | fewyn | bored |
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| 17:05.27 | Bruners | is there a buffalo like buff addon that works now? or do buffalo work |
| 17:07.03 | Stanzilla | try facadebuffs |
| 17:07.08 | Stanzilla | it's very simple but should work |
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| 17:09.46 | Bruners | is it just for me that the install via curse client button doesnt work anymore btw? |
| 17:10.02 | nevcairiel | Wouldnt surprise me, tb |
| 17:10.03 | nevcairiel | tbh* |
| 17:10.16 | Bruners | that its just for me or ?:P |
| 17:11.58 | Bruners | i have had some issues with firefox after gnaa on imp forced me to reset the profile |
| 17:17.02 | Aeyan | FacadeBuffs isn't actually working with ButtonFacade right now |
| 17:17.20 | Aeyan | Try BasicBuffs, Steroids, or for something a little more advanced - SBF 3.0 |
| 17:18.10 | Aeyan | Though, if you don't care about buttonfacade support... facadebuffs is working fine. =P |
| 17:18.31 | Stanzilla | Aeyan: Repo: facade-buffs: ethancentaurai * r30 FacadeBuffs.lua: - Fix buff skinning for 3.0 < I think it does^^ |
| 17:18.41 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: any plans on tagging another beta for omen sometime soon-ish? |
| 17:18.52 | Xinhuan | i want to, but the packager is down |
| 17:18.58 | Xinhuan | so a tag would be pointless right now |
| 17:19.50 | Aeyan | Stanzilla: Yo ^ |
| 17:19.56 | Xinhuan | my last few commits didn't even get alpha zipped |
| 17:19.59 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 17:21.01 | Repo | 10parrot: 03ananhaid 06Parrot-zh * r4 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): parrot-zh: |
| 17:21.02 | Repo | update the 2 locale on time,Author pls merge it,thanks. |
| 17:21.19 | Xinhuan | Whoa |
| 17:21.36 | Xinhuan | did i see correctly, a translator using a git clone correctly! |
| 17:21.40 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: I don't get why people recommend all these other half-working crap addons to you. Buffalo works fine. :D |
| 17:21.43 | nevcairiel | thats not git |
| 17:21.48 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 17:21.49 | nevcairiel | that has a numerical revision |
| 17:21.51 | Xinhuan | well svn clone then |
| 17:22.01 | nevcairiel | but yeah, that guy did a git clone of bartender |
| 17:22.04 | nevcairiel | and i could just pull! |
| 17:22.19 | Xinhuan | yeah its awesome |
| 17:22.26 | Xinhuan | i pulled your clone easily |
| 17:22.43 | nevcairiel | i only did a branch :p |
| 17:22.51 | Xinhuan | same thing really |
| 17:23.29 | Bruners | its not that easy to understand git |
| 17:23.32 | Bruners | or svn |
| 17:23.44 | nevcairiel | but once you understand git, you can rule the world! |
| 17:23.54 | charon | and do linus' work while he takes credit |
| 17:23.58 | Bruners | all i know is git clone :P |
| 17:24.09 | [SW]Dodge | packager still dead? |
| 17:24.09 | Xinhuan | knowing gitclone is half the battle :D |
| 17:24.14 | nevcairiel | do i here some critcism there charon? :D |
| 17:24.23 | charon | nevcairiel: actually, those are his own words |
| 17:24.29 | charon | from the google tech talk |
| 17:24.33 | Bruners | also tried on git pull but didnt get the branch correct |
| 17:24.43 | charon | at some point he says that the idea behind DVCS is that he can let others do the work while he takes credit |
| 17:24.56 | Xinhuan | i ended up using git gui, so i can just click my way thru it |
| 17:25.32 | Bruners | with svn, can you tag at the same time as you commit ? |
| 17:25.45 | Xinhuan | no |
| 17:25.47 | asmodai | Party people! |
| 17:25.53 | pastamancer | you can do a remote copy which is kinda like that |
| 17:25.53 | nevcairiel | you can, but its ugly as hell |
| 17:26.40 | Bruners | in mr tortoise there is a branch/tag is that the same as tag repo on curse forge? |
| 17:26.44 | Xinhuan | you really don't want to do it, because |
| 17:26.52 | Xinhuan | it would be hard to undo otherwise |
| 17:27.02 | Xinhuan | yeah its the same bruners |
| 17:27.04 | charon | well, you can do a modification to trunk/ and copy to tags/ at the same time but svn will probably require some --force to copy modified files |
| 17:27.12 | Xinhuan | the branch/tag in tortoise is a "remote copy" |
| 17:27.23 | pastamancer | oh you mean tagging directly from your WC? that's bad news |
| 17:27.43 | Xinhuan | tortoise doesn't allow u to tag from WC i think |
| 17:27.44 | charon | pastamancer: nobody said your WC had to be trunk/ only :) |
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| 17:28.14 | charon | in short, <nevcairiel> you can, but its ugly as hell |
| 17:28.41 | pastamancer | I meant having your WC being trunk and then doing a copy (including some changes) of your WC to a tag |
| 17:29.01 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: ping |
| 17:29.06 | nevcairiel | you can do a local copy into the tags dir inside the WC |
| 17:29.10 | nevcairiel | and then commit |
| 17:29.12 | nevcairiel | really ugly |
| 17:29.21 | nevcairiel | should always do remote copies |
| 17:29.21 | Bruners | WC is what? |
| 17:29.28 | nevcairiel | working copy |
| 17:30.06 | charon | "<nevcairiel> should always do remote copies" ... so nev can do 'in before tag' fixes to your repositories! |
| 17:30.19 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 17:30.22 | nevcairiel | yea |
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| 17:36.53 | Repo | 10adavak: 03ananhaid 07master * 42c42ef / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Skinner zhCN update. |
| 17:38.08 | Bruners | G plz |
| 17:38.24 | Bruners | thats how lazy gold beggers are theese days |
| 17:40.07 | asmodai | I had one: |
| 17:40.14 | asmodai | Can I have gold for my mount plz (level 30) |
| 17:40.23 | asmodai | And here I am, 300g short of my 100% mount |
| 17:40.34 | asmodai | told him to suck it up |
| 17:41.57 | Amadeo | There's a great screenshot on the bash site about a beggar...the beggar tells the guy he'll do ANYTHING for the gold...so the guy says, anything? Go grind for it then! |
| 17:42.15 | Stanzilla | http://www.teamspeak.com/alpha/ < w00t |
| 17:42.18 | Stanzilla | that took ages |
| 17:43.13 | Amadeo | Look at Phase 2 |
| 17:43.22 | Amadeo | hah |
| 17:43.50 | Stanzilla | yeah wtf^^ |
| 17:44.47 | [SW]Dodge | only linux and mac os x? whats about windows? :< |
| 17:45.04 | charon | mumbles something about mumble |
| 17:45.46 | Groktar | presents charon with a baby ferret |
| 17:46.45 | Zeksie | what exactly does (tail call): ? mean in a stack trace.. ? |
| 17:47.04 | Xinhuan | it means |
| 17:47.06 | Toadkiller | it means recursion |
| 17:47.07 | charon | has a brief flashback to his former Feral self but suppresses the urge to devour the ferret |
| 17:47.07 | Xinhuan | a function did |
| 17:47.11 | Xinhuan | return somefunc() |
| 17:47.11 | Fisker- | wtf |
| 17:47.13 | Stanzilla | [SW]Dodge: http://www.teamspeak.com/media_repository/images/blog/ts3_alpha2_win.jpg |
| 17:47.16 | Fisker- | testing is srs busines Stanzilla |
| 17:47.18 | Xinhuan | as the last line in the call |
| 17:47.27 | Zeksie | ok |
| 17:47.30 | pastamancer | wow, phase 2 can get stuffed |
| 17:47.31 | Xinhuan | when that happens, Lua performs a tail call |
| 17:47.33 | Zeksie | just as it sounds then |
| 17:47.38 | Xinhuan | in order words, Lua does a "goto" |
| 17:47.46 | Xinhuan | rather than invoke a function call on the stack |
| 17:47.47 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r56 / (5 files in 2 directories): initial 2.0 alpha version |
| 17:47.49 | asmodai | Antiarc: cool, you fixed that quest timers mover thing? |
| 17:47.58 | [SW]Dodge | Stanzilla: thanks :D |
| 17:48.03 | Zeksie | trying to see where this occurs: Cannot use SecureHandlers API during combat: |
| 17:48.03 | Xinhuan | that makes any sense to you Zeksie? |
| 17:48.06 | Zeksie | yes Xinhuan |
| 17:48.18 | Zeksie | but entire trace is in wow lau. |
| 17:48.29 | Zeksie | wow's lua rather |
| 17:48.40 | Neffi | Xinhuan: Does the CPU cost of a tail call differ from a normal function call any? |
| 17:48.58 | Zeksie | really wish they didn't truncate long frame names to * |
| 17:49.02 | pastamancer | Neffi: it just saves a stack frame vs a normal function call |
| 17:49.06 | Zeksie | helps not at all.. |
| 17:49.14 | Xinhuan | well because its a "goto" rather than invoking a new stack |
| 17:49.28 | Xinhuan | it saves one function unstacking call |
| 17:49.39 | Xinhuan | which is why the stacktrace doesn't show it |
| 17:49.48 | Xinhuan | it only modified the current stack, not make a new function stack |
| 17:54.45 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r57 libs/: removed externals |
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| 17:56.37 | Corollary | Hey I'm trying to find all the old documentation and it appears to be gone from the new site.. why? Or am I just looking in the wrong place? |
| 17:57.36 | ulic | old stuff I think it still at old.wowace.com |
| 17:58.07 | Corollary | *phew* |
| 17:58.15 | Corollary | that new site is barren, it feels like everything was torn out |
| 17:58.44 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r58 WhoLib-2.0.lua: fixed properties |
| 17:58.58 | ulic | not everything could be ported so easily, like the wiki, so it wasn't. |
| 17:59.02 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r59 libs/: deleted libs folder |
| 17:59.27 | Corollary | is it possible at all to fully insulate yourself from other addons having updated versions of ace libraries? IE id like to use a version i know works and package it with my addon, but it seems its being affected by other addons that have newer versions |
| 17:59.46 | Xinhuan | not possible |
| 18:00.02 | Xinhuan | your only option is to rename the library so that only you use that library |
| 18:00.13 | Xinhuan | and since nobody else has the same library, it wn't get upgraded |
| 18:00.18 | Corollary | bummer |
| 18:00.23 | Corollary | any plans to change that for 3.x? |
| 18:01.17 | Xinhuan | doubt it |
| 18:01.18 | Corollary | it would be nice if you could tack on a suffix or prefix to all the libs you load easily |
| 18:01.21 | Corollary | then only reference them |
| 18:01.23 | ulic | with the new deployment system, it should be much more unlikely that broken versions of libraries would make it out the door. I guess new/old is different from working/broken though. |
| 18:01.37 | Xinhuan | library upgrading is a key feature |
| 18:01.39 | Fisker- | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:01.41 | Corollary | ya definitely the new/old issue. |
| 18:01.53 | Xinhuan | if you didn't want it to upgrade then you should just not use the library and hardcode it yourself ;p |
| 18:02.20 | ulic | most libraries should be backwards compatible though, so I doubt you could use some feature that just went away. |
| 18:02.20 | Corollary | bah, tell name a major piece of library software with that stance that has ever taken off in the real OS world =/ |
| 18:03.02 | charon | glibc? :p |
| 18:03.05 | Corollary | my current issue is for some reason libraries dont seem to be registering and making themselves available.. ace event 2 / oo 2 just disappeared and are tossing errors now that i installed an updated buggrabber |
| 18:03.13 | charon | (disclaimer: i don't actually know their stance on that) |
| 18:03.25 | Corollary | anything in the real world is 100% backwards compatibile |
| 18:03.29 | Corollary | at least that gets major use |
| 18:03.57 | Corollary | thats why most programs from win2k run on vista and vice versa, and same with linux as long as you recompile |
| 18:04.01 | Xinhuan | well, its an issue with buggrabber then |
| 18:04.12 | Corollary | ya could be, trying to get to the bottom of it right now |
| 18:04.16 | Xinhuan | there was a version yesterday that had an issue with circular dependency |
| 18:04.20 | Corollary | just though id find out if i could isolate myself from previous problems |
| 18:04.26 | charon | Corollary: actually, i just fought a new g++ strictness problem that collided with an existing library i have, meaning the library could be linked but the headers would not compile. in any case, this discussion is slightly off topic. |
| 18:04.38 | Xinhuan | that is, bugsack required something from buggrabber, and buggrabber required something from bugsack, and the whole thing just didn't work |
| 18:05.46 | sztanpet | is there a way to access the server-side keybinds and macros, or any addon for it |
| 18:06.32 | Neffi | On that note, Spellbinder is totally fucked if Nymbia is listening |
| 18:07.17 | Neffi | sztanpet: I've been juggling using Macaroon's Bound module (from the Xtras package), and modifying the files to bind manually (set the CVar "serverSynchronization" to "0" so it reads said files). |
| 18:08.39 | sztanpet | i want to save my things to the server and restore them on my other pc |
| 18:09.11 | sztanpet | and if i update it anywhere it propagates normally |
| 18:09.41 | Neffi | Well then neither of my solutions is very good. I think Macaroon's binding is saved in SVs, so it won't save to the server. |
| 18:09.56 | Xinhuan | so copy the SVs |
| 18:10.28 | Neffi | I'm guessing he wanted a hassle-free way of doing things |
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| 18:11.14 | Neffi | I wonder if anyone will make a Google Chrome skin for Firefox... |
| 18:11.20 | Neffi | Anyone seen any around? |
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| 18:15.49 | sztanpet | yea there are many |
| 18:16.48 | sztanpet | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9427 for example |
| 18:18.04 | Gnarfoz | <Stanzilla> http://www.teamspeak.com/alpha/ < w00t :( too bad no windows version. and seeing the screenshot, I seriously hope they move away from that ]I[ thing. German idiots writing TS2 as TS^2 has annoyed me for years. |
| 18:18.38 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 18:24.28 | [SW]Dodge | Xuerian: ping |
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| 18:27.22 | Repo | 10xperl: 03Zeksie * r229 XPerl_Usage.lua: XPerl: Fix error in XPerl_Usage.lua, line 190. |
| 18:29.06 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: more power to this thread: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=13618 |
| 18:29.30 | Hjalte | Using Buffalo(1) with the flashing enabled when a buff/debuff runs out, it seems that the flash is extremely fast when my fps goes low - Anyone else noticing this? |
| 18:29.33 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 18:30.17 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: could be onupdate based, so that FPS affects it? |
| 18:30.53 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: I've just noticed it flashing too fast in bgs, when my fps drops to like 12-13 when there's a lot of enemies and friends around me. |
| 18:31.23 | Gnarfoz | well, that's the same as you just said, just with more irrelevant info added :p |
| 18:34.15 | Adirelle | I'm wondering why Threat/ThreatMax have been removed from DogTag-Unit, they are still accessible with 3.0 API |
| 18:34.52 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: Yes, because the more I write about it the bigger the chance will be that someone will read it! |
| 18:35.03 | Hjalte | :-) |
| 18:35.11 | Gnarfoz | heh yeah, that much is true |
| 18:35.49 | Zeksie | is there an easy way to get the brand of a hunter pet? (Sporebat, Core Hound etc.) |
| 18:36.11 | Zeksie | can't find for looking atm. |
| 18:40.29 | smcn | tinytip does it, might try digging through it |
| 18:42.04 | Zeksie | yeh, guess i'll have to :) |
| 18:42.44 | [SW]Dodge | Zeksie: dogtag does that to, cant tell you which tag it was as my pitbull config is dead :S |
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| 18:45.52 | Zeksie | mmm. tinytip just reformats existing tip... off to dogtag :| |
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| 18:46.09 | nevcairiel | what do people need in tooltips o.O |
| 18:46.45 | Stanzilla | guild rank/notes and specc :D |
| 18:46.55 | Cheads | proper positioning |
| 18:47.09 | smcn | if i don't know the sexual orientation of my target's best friend's cousin's cat, i just can't stand playing |
| 18:47.35 | smcn | is there a dogtag for that? |
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| 18:49.12 | Stanzilla | [sex] maybe? |
| 18:50.07 | [SW]Dodge | Zeksie: try Creature tag in dogtag |
| 18:51.11 | Industrial | Any dps meters that are not recount? |
| 18:51.19 | [SW]Dodge | \LibDogTag-Unit-3.0\Categories\Characteristics.lua line 193 |
| 18:51.24 | linear` | swstats |
| 18:51.28 | Industrial | recount is too big for my taste, I just want to see a list of damage done and/or dps thats it |
| 18:51.49 | Stanzilla | Industrial: violation? |
| 18:52.28 | Industrial | ty |
| 18:53.02 | Zeksie | got it.. UnitCreatureFamily() :) |
| 18:53.06 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 18:53.15 | Zeksie | ty ty |
| 18:54.05 | [SW]Dodge | np :> |
| 18:54.25 | [SW]Dodge | mh is boring, so i can search dogtag lua files for stuff :D |
| 18:59.35 | Zeksie | hehe |
| 19:00.34 | Zeksie | utopia shaping up now. getting real numbers from it for potential/actual debuffs. just need to sort out huntards, and a damned workaround for the Savage Combat bug.. |
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| 19:04.48 | harl | is there a way to bypass the built-in quest logs limit of 5 quests being watched at a time? |
| 19:05.15 | harl | *log's |
| 19:07.08 | Industrial | Zeksie: utopia? |
| 19:09.19 | harl | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/utopia.aspx |
| 19:09.20 | Repo | 10fu-bar_tracker-fu: 038tImER 041.0 * r56 : tag as 1.0 for curse syndication |
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| 19:11.31 | [SW]Dodge | sounds nice |
| 19:11.31 | [SW]Dodge | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.53 | KriLL3 | 18 quests short in Kalimdor, man it sucks hunting down those last few ones, really long quest series that start in EK and do 1-2 quests tagged as kalimdor etc... quests that start inside instances etc |
| 19:12.20 | Gnarfoz | meh, packager still dead? |
| 19:12.22 | [SW]Dodge | i'm at 624/730 >-< |
| 19:12.43 | KriLL3 | and items that start quests, they're a pain to find, since you have no idea if you've done em or not, you can only farm for the item until you think you can't get it |
| 19:12.44 | [SW]Dodge | Gnarfoz: i think yeah |
| 19:13.26 | [SW]Dodge | KriLL3: i asked a gm about the chciken eskort quests while farming them for my last pet to hit 50 =D |
| 19:13.46 | KriLL3 | I saw it gave a pet so I did it ages ago |
| 19:14.03 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r658 / (4 files in 1 directory): -- Show grid when dragging usable items / spells / macros |
| 19:14.16 | KriLL3 | would be nice if there was some addon that listed quests you haven't done in some way |
| 19:14.29 | KriLL3 | dunno if that's even possible though |
| 19:14.32 | [SW]Dodge | i wasnt a big fan of bagspace wasting pets ^^ |
| 19:14.37 | nevcairiel | well it can only track that by monitoring what you do |
| 19:14.48 | nevcairiel | cant query what you did already |
| 19:14.49 | KriLL3 | so you need to run it from day 1 |
| 19:15.14 | nevcairiel | i think there was one for BC quests |
| 19:15.17 | nevcairiel | EveryQuest or so |
| 19:15.21 | KriLL3 | I think I have about 5 more quests in razorfens |
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| 19:16.26 | Zeksie | KriLL3: did all that 2 weeks ago.. had a real issue tracking down lasts quests Kalimdor side ;) |
| 19:16.44 | nevcairiel | kalimdor is hard, at least for alliance |
| 19:16.46 | nevcairiel | EK was so damn easy |
| 19:16.47 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:16.48 | Zeksie | found a couple in Azshara out in the bay that i'd missed |
| 19:17.03 | KriLL3 | Zeksie: I use wowhead showing alliance quest starters, helps a lot |
| 19:17.14 | nevcairiel | thats what i did |
| 19:17.20 | [SW]Dodge | KriLL3: need |
| 19:17.22 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 19:17.31 | KriLL3 | doesn't help with item started and series that somehow end up being tagged as kalimdor etc |
| 19:17.41 | Zeksie | ye :| |
| 19:17.45 | KriLL3 | just did a ZG prequest tagged as tanaris |
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| 19:17.59 | KriLL3 | you had to get tablets out of LBRS... yes... tanaris... |
| 19:18.08 | nevcairiel | i did that when leveling |
| 19:18.08 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:18.25 | KriLL3 | I started with like 500 quests in EK and 400 in Kalimdor =P |
| 19:18.34 | KriLL3 | there was no questhelper when I leveled up |
| 19:18.45 | nevcairiel | I never used questhelper |
| 19:19.07 | doom0r | KriLL3: yes there was, it was called thottbot |
| 19:19.09 | KriLL3 | I hadn't done a ton of quests in ashenvale (especially the new ones) and didn't ever go to stonetalon etc |
| 19:19.26 | KriLL3 | doom0r: well it didn't really help with finding quests |
| 19:19.32 | doom0r | ;x |
| 19:19.40 | KriLL3 | a lot of quest givers are way way out in the woods without any real reason |
| 19:19.52 | KriLL3 | those above WC are a bit hard to get to for one... |
| 19:20.03 | nevcairiel | I only use LightHeaded |
| 19:20.06 | KriLL3 | and I had no idea alliance had quests in the barrens instances, so I haven't done any of em |
| 19:20.09 | nevcairiel | and TomTom |
| 19:20.24 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I use both, QH when I had 20~ in dustwallow etc |
| 19:20.29 | KriLL3 | lightheaded all other times |
| 19:20.36 | nevcairiel | My brain has super mapping power |
| 19:20.40 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 19:20.57 | KriLL3 | I got QH disabled 99% of the time, but it's useful when you have a bunch of quests |
| 19:21.15 | KriLL3 | since it automated a lot of that opening lightheaded, looking for the right comment, clicking the cords etc |
| 19:21.32 | nevcairiel | most of the new quests are pretty straight forward though |
| 19:21.35 | KriLL3 | I usually ignores it's order it picks though, since I know better myself |
| 19:21.35 | nevcairiel | not like the old zones |
| 19:21.46 | KriLL3 | well all quests I'm doing are old zone =P |
| 19:22.00 | nevcairiel | well i mean like new quests in old zones are good too |
| 19:22.04 | nevcairiel | new dustwallow |
| 19:22.06 | nevcairiel | forest song |
| 19:22.20 | KriLL3 | kinda insane btw that Azshara is HUGE and got 11 quest givers for alliance, most of which are just part of a long chain that doesn't start there, or for a single class |
| 19:22.22 | doom0r | exodar area for ally |
| 19:22.27 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: true |
| 19:22.45 | nevcairiel | yeah azshara is more like a lore region |
| 19:22.51 | KriLL3 | and I love "crew under fire" =P no reward, no xp, no gold from mobs |
| 19:22.59 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 19:23.00 | doom0r | nevcairiel: learn quest once, never look it up again? |
| 19:23.22 | KriLL3 | well for some odd reason I leveled my druid and missed more than half of all quests... |
| 19:23.40 | nevcairiel | doom0r: i can pretty much do that, yeah. thats why i want the loremaster title, i'm crazy enough to remember all quests i did |
| 19:23.41 | doom0r | cause leveling there sucked? |
| 19:23.46 | KriLL3 | guess it's because you do a chain and then you get to a hard part, and switched zone |
| 19:23.47 | doom0r | same |
| 19:23.57 | doom0r | i'm at 3**/730 kalimdor |
| 19:23.59 | doom0r | done with ek |
| 19:24.10 | nevcairiel | I'm done with all loremaster thats possible right now |
| 19:24.15 | KriLL3 | I'm 18 shy no kalimdor, and I got a hard time finding more |
| 19:24.16 | nevcairiel | just waiting for wrath :) |
| 19:24.34 | KriLL3 | I only got blade's edge left in outland, didn't do the grimore part and later ogri'la stuff |
| 19:24.35 | doom0r | nice |
| 19:24.42 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: the 2 quests in durotar? |
| 19:24.48 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: ? |
| 19:24.51 | doom0r | o.O |
| 19:25.09 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=3293 |
| 19:25.11 | KriLL3 | durotar has 44 horde quest givers for me |
| 19:25.15 | nevcairiel | has two quests that can be done by alliance |
| 19:25.25 | nevcairiel | dont trust wowhead |
| 19:25.27 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 19:25.30 | KriLL3 | kk :) |
| 19:25.33 | Xuerian | [SW]Dodge: Pong |
| 19:25.43 | KriLL3 | anyone got that link that searches wowhead for items that start quests? |
| 19:25.54 | nevcairiel | hm well whats there |
| 19:26.01 | KriLL3 | or perhaps I could ask a GM to point me in the right direction or something |
| 19:26.06 | nevcairiel | the two chicken bots in tanaris and feralas? |
| 19:26.12 | KriLL3 | got all those |
| 19:26.14 | KriLL3 | have the pet |
| 19:26.15 | nevcairiel | the ship schedule in tanaris? |
| 19:26.20 | KriLL3 | that one also |
| 19:26.30 | doom0r | bottle and giant gorilla? |
| 19:26.36 | KriLL3 | gorilla? |
| 19:26.38 | KriLL3 | oh that one |
| 19:26.40 | [SW]Dodge | Xuerian: do you think its possible to add something to avoid bop messages? like shift-click greed button to auto accept bop messsage? :D |
| 19:26.41 | nevcairiel | arent those STV? |
| 19:26.41 | KriLL3 | that's EK |
| 19:26.45 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 19:26.46 | [SW]Dodge | add to xloot* |
| 19:26.48 | doom0r | oh, for K |
| 19:26.50 | doom0r | i c |
| 19:26.57 | KriLL3 | EK is ez |
| 19:26.57 | Xuerian | KriLL3: There's a filter for "Starts a quest"... |
| 19:27.05 | Xuerian | http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=cr=6;crs=1;crv=0 |
| 19:27.07 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: link? |
| 19:27.13 | KriLL3 | thx |
| 19:27.14 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Lazy bastard. |
| 19:27.26 | doom0r | i can't wait to name my death knight already |
| 19:27.27 | KriLL3 | ... not lazy, just not that familiar with that stuff |
| 19:27.53 | KriLL3 | doom0r: wetmascara? |
| 19:27.59 | doom0r | Billdoor |
| 19:28.02 | Xuerian | [SW]Dodge: It's possible, but it's not something I'd be adding to XLoot. Mainly because A: it's hackkish, B: it can seriously taint and C: I'm not even doing anything on xloot right now =| |
| 19:28.03 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11621243&sid=1 |
| 19:28.07 | nevcairiel | that list may help, maybe |
| 19:28.12 | nevcairiel | certainly had some i didnt get |
| 19:28.15 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Browse -> Items -> Add Filter -> Starts a quest |
| 19:28.37 | doom0r | nevcairiel: nice link |
| 19:28.44 | KriLL3 | Xuerian: I didn't even know that feature existed |
| 19:28.52 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: when i was down to 5 missing or so, i literally ran to every quest giver on the wowhead maps, and found 3 more quests \o/ |
| 19:29.07 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: does all the item reward AQ quests count? I guess they're one time only stuff |
| 19:29.14 | nevcairiel | they count |
| 19:29.17 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I've already done that more or less |
| 19:29.23 | nevcairiel | or wait |
| 19:29.26 | nevcairiel | which AQ quests? |
| 19:29.29 | doom0r | i refuse to do That's Asking A Lot in epl |
| 19:29.29 | nevcairiel | the hand-ins for items? |
| 19:29.31 | nevcairiel | those dont |
| 19:29.40 | KriLL3 | find random rubbish items from the instances, get lewt |
| 19:29.49 | nevcairiel | nah those dont |
| 19:30.06 | KriLL3 | I haven't done a single quest related to AQ since I haven't entered it yet |
| 19:30.16 | KriLL3 | there are some outside that need you to return stuff from the bosses |
| 19:30.33 | Xuerian | KriLL3: You can pick any level in the Browse menu and filter downwards from there |
| 19:30.33 | nevcairiel | After finishing Kalimdor and doing EK, i found a chain with like 5 more quests in booty bay that counted thousand needles, lol :) |
| 19:30.54 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: done those |
| 19:30.57 | Xuerian | [SW]Dodge: I have considered that feature though, I would've liked it myself when doing the scourge camps |
| 19:31.17 | doom0r | wtb multiple account saved vars |
| 19:31.21 | doom0r | i hate scanning ah twice |
| 19:31.36 | nevcairiel | only use one account to sell/buy? :D |
| 19:31.50 | [SW]Dodge | Xuerian: not just the scourge camps ;) |
| 19:31.51 | doom0r | i have two diff types of banks one on each that ah |
| 19:32.05 | doom0r | ones mats, ones items |
| 19:32.22 | doom0r | besides, then i'd still need teh tooltip data |
| 19:32.37 | doom0r | and i dont' really care to constantly copy the damn file |
| 19:32.42 | [SW]Dodge | Xuerian: go and add it if its possible =D |
| 19:32.45 | nevcairiel | i never really use the tooltips |
| 19:32.46 | doom0r | plus i have other uses |
| 19:32.52 | nevcairiel | i just send items to my bank alt and sell them there |
| 19:32.54 | Xuerian | [SW]Dodge: lol. |
| 19:33.06 | doom0r | i.e. I REALLY want to be able to view my bags/banks on either account in bagnon/sanity |
| 19:33.09 | [SW]Dodge | :-) |
| 19:33.17 | doom0r | without more work |
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| 19:34.16 | doom0r | setting up multiple layouts wasn't fun either |
| 19:34.33 | doom0r | i had to copy the everything from my main across all, then go and edit/copy profile, etc. |
| 19:34.43 | doom0r | -the |
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| 19:35.29 | Neffi | Where's the official download and documentation for DataBroker? |
| 19:35.48 | Torhal | http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/wikis |
| 19:36.19 | doom0r | meh, i'm too slow |
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| 19:37.12 | Torhal | You're welcome, Neffi. |
| 19:37.13 | Torhal | Heh |
| 19:37.20 | doom0r | gotta love knowing that the person playing a guildie/friends acc is a gbank ninja |
| 19:37.51 | Torhal | doom0r: You could fix that. All it requires is a sock and a bar of soap. |
| 19:38.04 | doom0r | and a 3k mile drive |
| 19:38.10 | Torhal | Semantics. |
| 19:38.15 | doom0r | :P |
| 19:39.41 | kadrahil | doom0r: i was quseting on an alt in hellfire earlier and saw a 70 orc lock meleeing mobs along side his felguard |
| 19:39.44 | kadrahil | in greens |
| 19:39.55 | Torhal | Heh |
| 19:39.58 | kadrahil | i thought he was gonna start that escort quest from the arakkoa place |
| 19:40.09 | kadrahil | so i sent him a tell and asked if i could join, no response |
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| 19:40.26 | kadrahil | sent him another tell and when i didn't get a response i ran in and grabbed the escort |
| 19:41.04 | kadrahil | the point is |
| 19:41.11 | kadrahil | he was probably not the owner of that character :P |
| 19:41.52 | Torhal | He could have been. Started playing WoW, is an idiot, and had a "service" powerlevel him. |
| 19:41.59 | kadrahil | possibly |
| 19:42.03 | Torhal | "Whatchoo mean, cast spells? Huh?" |
| 19:42.18 | kadrahil | i didn't inspect his gear or talents but i could tell it was greens |
| 19:42.26 | doom0r | this person knows how to play, he led a guild, then ninja'd the bank |
| 19:42.34 | kadrahil | ohhh that's harsh |
| 19:42.37 | doom0r | then my ex-guildmastr who used to bitch about him doing that, did that |
| 19:42.44 | Torhal | Gah |
| 19:42.46 | kadrahil | ouch |
| 19:42.48 | kadrahil | ;( |
| 19:42.53 | doom0r | and left me with a guild to run and nothing to do it with |
| 19:43.10 | doom0r | come home to locked vbulletin forums with a single static page wah wah this is why |
| 19:43.11 | kadrahil | how far progressed were you? |
| 19:43.20 | doom0r | oh, this was a long time ago |
| 19:43.21 | doom0r | in bwl |
| 19:43.23 | kadrahil | oh |
| 19:43.26 | doom0r | half way through |
| 19:43.31 | Xuerian | Torhal: I think he wasn't paying attention, but I (A 70 lock in T4) was asked last night (By another 70 lock in better gear than me) if I could port him to shatt :P |
| 19:43.43 | doom0r | but we had a ton of cores/leather/elementium/ingots |
| 19:43.54 | kadrahil | yeah that's rough |
| 19:43.55 | doom0r | he sold it for several grand |
| 19:43.59 | doom0r | usd |
| 19:44.02 | Torhal | Xuerian: Did you point at him and laugh? |
| 19:44.02 | kadrahil | :X |
| 19:44.05 | kadrahil | Xuerian: lol |
| 19:44.14 | Xuerian | Torhal: My whole guild did, actually |
| 19:44.18 | Torhal | Haha |
| 19:44.20 | Zeksie | is a Wasp an exotic pet? |
| 19:44.23 | Xuerian | Was in vent at the time and I busted out laughing |
| 19:44.27 | kadrahil | yes Zeksie |
| 19:44.30 | Zeksie | ty |
| 19:45.00 | Fisker- | Zeksie is sexy |
| 19:45.01 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 19:45.16 | Zeksie | yes... guildies call it Sex-Perl.. |
| 19:45.23 | kadrahil | Zeksie: actually |
| 19:45.26 | kadrahil | hmm |
| 19:45.32 | kadrahil | "It was confirmed that Wasps will be available to every hunter, BM or not." |
| 19:45.45 | Zeksie | ok :) |
| 19:45.47 | kadrahil | they aren't exotic, sorry |
| 19:45.51 | kadrahil | http://www.wowhead.com/?pets |
| 19:45.52 | doom0r | LOL |
| 19:45.55 | doom0r | i read that wisps |
| 19:46.25 | kadrahil | the only thing about wasps is their sting ability does not stack with faerie fire |
| 19:46.32 | KriLL3 | always fun to pass through ratchet, a level 11 troll warrior just charged me and got raped by the guards in a split second... |
| 19:46.43 | kadrahil | owned |
| 19:46.44 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:47.47 | kadrahil | i want a spirit beast :( |
| 19:47.51 | KriLL3 | big shiny guy in S4 gear 59 levels above me, I think I have a chance! |
| 19:48.33 | kadrahil | heh |
| 19:48.40 | KriLL3 | his charge stun missed, his melee missed, and that was all he had time to try before reduced to pulp by the goblins... |
| 19:48.42 | Zeksie | kadrahil: yeh, but rank for rank, it's identical to FF |
| 19:48.45 | kenlyric | I seriously think people don't look |
| 19:48.47 | kadrahil | Zeksie: yep |
| 19:48.50 | kenlyric | they see red, and they attack |
| 19:48.54 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 19:49.09 | kadrahil | Zeksie: so it might be useful in pvp, but probably not quite as much in raids unless you already have someone that applies FF |
| 19:49.18 | kenlyric | I did that a couple times my first day on a pvp server |
| 19:49.21 | kadrahil | i believe cats are still the preferred pet of the month right now |
| 19:49.40 | Zeksie | kenlyric: yeah, useful or not, it's in utopia |
| 19:49.42 | Torhal | I fucking hate it when a hunter has an owl. |
| 19:49.44 | KriLL3 | kadrahil: aren't the really big pets better? |
| 19:49.48 | Torhal | Can't see a damn thing. |
| 19:50.03 | KriLL3 | Torhal: I bet you love the buge ones |
| 19:50.05 | kadrahil | KriLL3: it depends on the ability, size doesn't make a difference :P |
| 19:50.21 | KriLL3 | kadrahil: well you need a 51p talent to get em, doesn't that count for something? |
| 19:50.35 | kadrahil | it gives you 4 extra pet talent points |
| 19:50.46 | kenlyric | they're going to need to do something special to the rhino, or the gorilla will simply remain the best tanking pet. |
| 19:50.49 | kadrahil | with the 13 talent points you already have you should be able to get all of the damage increasing talents anyway |
| 19:51.21 | Torhal | kenlyric: I had a guildie who swore by her boar. :) |
| 19:51.25 | kadrahil | i gotta get my second hunter to 70 and do the S2 honor grind before wrath |
| 19:51.29 | KriLL3 | is the pet that important? I always ignore it vs a hunter, unless they're remaining so far away they can't shoot, then I take it out |
| 19:51.29 | kadrahil | :X |
| 19:51.47 | kadrahil | pets make up about 40% of a bm hunter's damage |
| 19:52.18 | KriLL3 | more if I'm sticking to you like a badger |
| 19:52.25 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 19:52.26 | kadrahil | lol |
| 19:52.27 | asmodai | Informer! |
| 19:52.40 | kadrahil | in arena or bgs my pet usually dies first |
| 19:52.48 | kadrahil | and pretty fast... they are soft enough to not survive a single shatter combo |
| 19:52.49 | KriLL3 | love hunter's backwards jump think, I use cat charge the second they use it =P no change |
| 19:53.00 | KriLL3 | *thing |
| 19:53.03 | kadrahil | heh |
| 19:53.19 | KriLL3 | and infected wounds is nice |
| 19:53.22 | KriLL3 | slows 50% |
| 19:53.31 | kadrahil | the other hunter in my guild used disengage in the twins gauntlet trash the other night |
| 19:53.34 | kadrahil | i was like |
| 19:53.42 | kadrahil | dude, did you just disengage the trash? |
| 19:53.48 | kadrahil | "yep" |
| 19:54.07 | kadrahil | because i saw him suddenly fly across my screen |
| 19:56.36 | KriLL3 | what happens if you disengage at the same time as a shaman farts? |
| 19:58.33 | doom0r | a tornado forms |
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| 19:59.43 | KriLL3 | I hate shaman fart, they can stand on a ramp over a large drop or similar and knock you down |
| 19:59.55 | KriLL3 | all the ramps in HF comes to mind |
| 20:00.08 | Xuerian | Hahaha, the conan horse-on-bridge video |
| 20:00.13 | KriLL3 | yeah |
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| 20:09.25 | Fisker- | Kaelten |
| 20:09.34 | Fisker- | is ">:3" a valid reason for a username change? |
| 20:12.07 | doom0r | Fisker-: I don't think Zoidberg's face is a valid reason for anything. |
| 20:13.11 | asmodai | this =3 or :3 smiley is a real WoW meme by now |
| 20:18.02 | Zhinjio | Is there any cpu-friendly way to be watching combat events? |
| 20:19.35 | Xuerian | asmodai: WoW meme? |
| 20:19.41 | Xuerian | That's fossil-old |
| 20:19.52 | asmodai | well, I've seen it being used more and more on WoW nowadays. |
| 20:19.57 | asmodai | I know it's from anime drawings |
| 20:23.53 | KriLL3 | found 2 more quests in razorfend downs, yay |
| 20:23.56 | KriLL3 | 16 to go |
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| 20:30.56 | KriLL3 | could I switch centraur factor in deso? |
| 20:32.31 | asmodai | http://www.wired.com/images/slideshow/2007/10/gallery_geekolanterns/deathstar.jpg |
| 20:32.56 | doom0r | KriLL3: don't see why not |
| 20:33.26 | KriLL3 | would take ages though, and there is no grantee I can go the quests |
| 20:33.54 | KriLL3 | *do |
| 20:37.31 | Xuerian | asmodai: haha |
| 20:39.03 | asmodai | Wow, I wonder what's causing my census to suddenly crawl :| |
| 20:39.57 | asmodai | 15 minutes and no characters |
| 20:43.09 | KriLL3 | can you re-do the quest to get the UBRS key if you throw it away? |
| 20:43.23 | doom0r | lol |
| 20:43.50 | KriLL3 | kinda odd the blacksmith doesn't restore it for you |
| 20:44.06 | doom0r | the dude in lbrs? |
| 20:44.14 | doom0r | on the ledge? |
| 20:44.52 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 20:44.59 | KriLL3 | doesn't give me a quest now |
| 20:45.18 | KriLL3 | I'll try to get a new "Unadorned Seal of Ascension" |
| 20:45.23 | KriLL3 | I did get a gem from a boss though |
| 20:45.36 | doom0r | you can pick all the pieces up, that i know |
| 20:45.42 | doom0r | i got them all with my pally again |
| 20:45.50 | KriLL3 | you got the key also? |
| 20:45.55 | doom0r | yes |
| 20:45.58 | KriLL3 | nice |
| 20:46.00 | doom0r | you can pick the pieces all up |
| 20:46.03 | doom0r | dunno what after that though |
| 20:46.07 | doom0r | but it's worth a shot |
| 20:46.15 | doom0r | plus they drop quite freaking often |
| 20:46.21 | KriLL3 | I think the core part starts a quest |
| 20:46.24 | doom0r | if not always |
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| 20:47.08 | ulic | anyone remember how many flames to douse in MC to summon Majordomo? |
| 20:47.27 | doom0r | least 4 |
| 20:48.07 | ulic | that's gonna make that achievement annoying. |
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| 20:48.34 | doom0r | ? |
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| 20:48.43 | kenlyric | anyone know how to bind Closetgnome sets to stances? |
| 20:48.59 | kenlyric | the new options/ldb plugin don't seem to have the option. |
| 20:49.21 | KriLL3 | wait for him/others to make that module again |
| 20:49.21 | ulic | the water is on a 1 hour cooldown, so gotta find people with waters, seems like most of the folks I ran MC with back in the day aren't too willing to go back :) |
| 20:49.28 | KriLL3 | CG is very basic atm |
| 20:49.34 | doom0r | mc is awesome |
| 20:49.37 | doom0r | i love that place |
| 20:49.42 | doom0r | i want a freakin hammer still |
| 20:49.47 | KriLL3 | I hate all 40 raid stuff, too much trash |
| 20:49.58 | doom0r | our 1 hammer went to somebody who stopped playing, then his brother fuckin deleted it |
| 20:49.58 | Xuerian | They had their downsides, like trash |
| 20:50.02 | ulic | kenlyric: I think you need CG_Switcher. |
| 20:50.05 | Xuerian | But they were so much more fun to participate in than 25-mans |
| 20:50.23 | Xuerian | 25-mans are for ZG >:( |
| 20:50.24 | KriLL3 | fun as in everyone getting DC:ed, falling asleep etc? |
| 20:50.36 | Xuerian | KriLL3: Exactly. |
| 20:51.24 | nevcairiel | 40man was silly, half the raid could be asleep/morons/whatever and still get through ok, that stopped in 25, you need everyone awake, well mostly anyway |
| 20:51.57 | Xuerian | haha. |
| 20:52.22 | Pneumatus | could be, and in most of the cases, were |
| 20:52.29 | Sunwind | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=10890 |
| 20:52.33 | Xuerian | nevcairiel: Ok, I was lying; It was fun because I was a feral druid and got to run around and hump corpses while my innervate was on cd |
| 20:53.15 | crookfingerjake | eww clicker |
| 20:53.25 | Xuerian | ^ |
| 20:55.36 | nevcairiel | oh man i'm bored |
| 20:55.39 | asmodai | ok, new dimension in begging: |
| 20:55.42 | asmodai | mageweave bags |
| 20:57.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: quartz ace3 port! *runs* |
| 20:57.32 | nevcairiel | what do i have to do with quartz |
| 20:57.46 | doom0r | @project quartz |
| 20:57.46 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/quartz/. Quartz. Game: WoW. Leader: Nymbia. Updated: 12 days ago. Tickets: 7/7 |
| 20:57.50 | nevcairiel | I was thinking to maybe do a new "lighter" castbar |
| 20:57.55 | nevcairiel | sometime |
| 20:57.56 | asmodai | quartz++ |
| 20:58.05 | asmodai | me gusto |
| 20:58.06 | Stanzilla | nothing |
| 20:58.11 | Stanzilla | but you could do it :P |
| 20:59.09 | Repo | 10fubar_wholibfu: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r30 / (2 files in 1 directory): adapted to WhoLib-2.0 |
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| 20:59.33 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r60 / (2 files in 1 directory): small fixes |
| 20:59.57 | nevcairiel | i still have 3 major points on my todo for bartender4 |
| 21:00.06 | nevcairiel | but i'm too tired to focus |
| 21:00.09 | asmodai | br4 also ++ |
| 21:00.21 | asmodai | err bt4 |
| 21:00.46 | KriLL3 | why can't bt4 hide your bars while mounted? :( |
| 21:00.52 | nevcairiel | it can |
| 21:00.58 | nevcairiel | i think |
| 21:00.59 | KriLL3 | if it can, it's well hidden |
| 21:01.12 | KriLL3 | I see druid forms, nothing about mounted |
| 21:01.28 | nevcairiel | you have to use the custom thingy |
| 21:01.32 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 21:01.51 | KriLL3 | [mounted] I guess? |
| 21:02.06 | crookfingerjake | BT4 positioning = hardon |
| 21:02.22 | nevcairiel | [mounted]hide;show |
| 21:02.28 | nevcairiel | should work fine |
| 21:02.28 | KriLL3 | seems like something that should be standard though ;) |
| 21:02.39 | nevcairiel | the list of checkboxes is already too long :( |
| 21:02.48 | KriLL3 | one more won't hut |
| 21:03.05 | KriLL3 | and druid forms don't need to be in the list for non druids |
| 21:03.06 | pompy | on wowace, user cp, why won'd it let me edit my password? I click 'edit email & password" and it doesn't go to a different page.. |
| 21:03.46 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: they are not, the list of forms/stances is generated by what you know |
| 21:03.54 | KriLL3 | nice |
| 21:04.08 | asmodai | only annoying thing with bt4 is when you want to align your bars and it draws this outline on top, obfuscating any pixel precise positioning |
| 21:04.25 | KriLL3 | and it snaps one pixel way for some reason |
| 21:04.53 | KriLL3 | I use zoomed + no spacing, put all your bars snapped and you get 1px gaps between em |
| 21:05.03 | doom0r | iono why, but when that happens asmodai, if you pick it up with mouse over a spell and not have it near any bar it usually goes away |
| 21:05.06 | doom0r | i don't get taht |
| 21:05.19 | asmodai | mmm |
| 21:05.22 | asmodai | interesting |
| 21:05.23 | doom0r | nevcairiel? |
| 21:05.27 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 21:05.31 | doom0r | ^ |
| 21:05.44 | nevcairiel | i dont understand your sentence |
| 21:06.11 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: I wouldn't call ita sentence |
| 21:06.12 | doom0r | picking up bt4 bars to move, shows a border.... if you pick it up away from any other bars, you can get it to not show when placing near them |
| 21:06.28 | nevcairiel | ah the border |
| 21:06.35 | nevcairiel | yeah i'm tweaking something there right now |
| 21:06.40 | doom0r | don't understand why it does/doesn't show |
| 21:07.09 | asmodai | Weird thing is also when you move the bars, and perhaps it's an optical illusion, is that you seem to be either 1 pixel apart or 1 pixel overlapping. |
| 21:07.11 | pompy | anyone that has a wowace account, not able to edit their emali/password for some reason? |
| 21:07.27 | doom0r | that's my real only gripe, for what it is, it is perfect.... got flexbar/etc if more is needed |
| 21:08.05 | KriLL3 | asmodai: always 1px away for me |
| 21:08.36 | doom0r | i ended up playing 1 bar and just editing the saved vars to place the others in relation |
| 21:08.38 | doom0r | best way to go |
| 21:08.59 | doom0r | playing->placing |
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| 21:10.16 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.1.2-24-g67261e8 Bar.lua: [+1 commit] Don't show the border of the Bar Overlay when moving a bar |
| 21:10.18 | nevcairiel | that should improve it a bit |
| 21:10.24 | KriLL3 | does blizz have any plans on making the lfg tool usable or re-do it? something that automagically lists everyone else with your quest or let you pick what instances you're interested in etc? |
| 21:10.47 | nevcairiel | cant you already pick instances? |
| 21:10.54 | Gnarfoz | yes, you can |
| 21:10.58 | KriLL3 | if it just remembered your picks from last time you logged in it would be a lot better |
| 21:11.03 | Gnarfoz | there's addons for that. |
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| 21:11.08 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: yes, then you log out /reloadui and it's gone |
| 21:11.14 | Gnarfoz | which is not surprising |
| 21:11.20 | Gnarfoz | and not game breaking in any way |
| 21:11.22 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: haven't found a single one that works |
| 21:11.23 | doom0r | mmm, OmniCC is telling me 50d on a 1hr 30min cd |
| 21:11.35 | doom0r | that's tuller's right? |
| 21:11.36 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: blizz bug, last I heard |
| 21:11.40 | doom0r | oic |
| 21:11.44 | nevcairiel | yeah its a blizz thing with the timers |
| 21:11.50 | doom0r | ty |
| 21:12.38 | asmodai | heh, thanks nev |
| 21:12.39 | KriLL3 | only got 15 quests to go... |
| 21:13.04 | asmodai | nevcairiel: positioning the bloody bag bar has become crappy since Blizzard resized the remaining 4 bag slows :S |
| 21:13.07 | asmodai | slots |
| 21:13.12 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 21:13.23 | KriLL3 | who needs a bag bar? |
| 21:13.27 | nevcairiel | maybe i can zoom them zo make it one size, but huh, have other stuff todo |
| 21:13.33 | nevcairiel | and ya, i don't show it |
| 21:13.49 | KriLL3 | I got a bind to open all bags (well combuctor really) and that's it |
| 21:13.56 | nevcairiel | its B |
| 21:13.57 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:14.05 | KriLL3 | I got it on my mouse |
| 21:14.15 | nevcairiel | how often do you use your bags o.o |
| 21:14.20 | KriLL3 | often |
| 21:14.26 | KriLL3 | well my mouse has 10 buttons |
| 21:14.34 | pompy | who can help me out with a quick question about wowace? |
| 21:15.18 | KriLL3 | 14 quests, found one more |
| 21:15.30 | KriLL3 | caravan escort in deso |
| 21:15.31 | nevcairiel | you have to change your password on the wowace page itself, cant do it through the forums because of how the authentication is setup |
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| 21:18.26 | asmodai | mmm, I might be able to do it like that |
| 21:18.30 | asmodai | *thinks* |
| 21:18.32 | asmodai | ah |
| 21:18.34 | asmodai | I remember why |
| 21:18.40 | asmodai | Dammit |
| 21:18.53 | asmodai | I will whip up a patch for OneBag3 tomorrow to add back the keyring |
| 21:18.56 | Mytos | so yea, who wants to buy me a pci express1 videocard and a third monitor |
| 21:19.01 | asmodai | That was the only reason why I had the bag bar |
| 21:19.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 21:19.25 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 21:19.44 | KriLL3 | I use combuctor, it has keys :> |
| 21:21.22 | KriLL3 | I like the category tabs, makes for quick finding of stuff |
| 21:21.24 | doom0r | bagnon here |
| 21:21.28 | doom0r | same deal |
| 21:21.50 | doom0r | don't like the look/layout of combuctor |
| 21:21.54 | KriLL3 | I went from AllInOneBag to a number of fan knockoffs and then combuctor |
| 21:21.56 | doom0r | excess frame |
| 21:22.05 | KriLL3 | I do, since it's like AIOB |
| 21:22.46 | KriLL3 | yes it's a bit much perhaps, but it's all very useful so it earns it's place |
| 21:23.19 | KriLL3 | and you typically open the bags, do your stuff, then close em, they're not open most of the time, and with tabs etc you don't need to have it open to look for stuff |
| 21:23.32 | fewyn | onebag ftw |
| 21:23.56 | KriLL3 | just a shame mr.plow isn't updated to LK :( |
| 21:24.05 | KriLL3 | use that for my bank, my bags are manually sorted |
| 21:24.13 | pompy | still works though |
| 21:24.19 | KriLL3 | doesn't for me |
| 21:24.36 | pompy | I'm playing around with Genie now |
| 21:24.40 | KriLL3 | get an error at start, then nothing more |
| 21:24.55 | KriLL3 | and it never worked with profession bags, which was a shame |
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| 21:26.50 | KriLL3 | I hope blizz one day makes it possible for a site/addon etc to check what quests you've done, I'm at 14 and I only know of 4 more or so |
| 21:27.18 | doom0r | have you checked all the npcs in the cities? |
| 21:27.25 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 21:27.56 | KriLL3 | only got repeatable runecloth, commendations, etc left |
| 21:28.10 | doom0r | all the silithus quests? |
| 21:28.10 | Repo | 10lsrm: 03raegx * r2 / (13 files in 2 directories): LSRM: |
| 21:28.12 | Repo | -Initial prototype commit |
| 21:28.22 | KriLL3 | vast amount of those are repeatable and doesn't count |
| 21:28.34 | KriLL3 | I don't have the AQ quests done since I'm not a raider |
| 21:28.35 | doom0r | there's several chains |
| 21:28.49 | KriLL3 | done em |
| 21:29.05 | KriLL3 | did em to get my guardian of cenarious title |
| 21:29.16 | doom0r | tanaris turtle escort |
| 21:29.27 | doom0r | goblin in middle of desert |
| 21:29.30 | KriLL3 | dunno, went there are the turtle was missing, gonna check again |
| 21:29.36 | KriLL3 | goblin I've done |
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| 21:30.24 | doom0r | timbermaw quests? there's a few once certain reps |
| 21:30.28 | KriLL3 | done em all |
| 21:30.35 | KriLL3 | I'm exalted |
| 21:30.53 | pompy | what's up with fubar_mailfu? Not updated at all, is there like a similar addon now? |
| 21:30.53 | KriLL3 | turned in the token of peace thing also |
| 21:31.24 | Repo | 10downtime: 03raegx * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): DowmTime: |
| 21:31.25 | Repo | -Initial commit |
| 21:32.08 | Gnarfoz | pompy: http://files.wowace.com/FuBar_MailFu/FuBar_MailFu.zip |
| 21:32.12 | KriLL3 | I'm thinking I'm missing a lot of quests that start and end inside instances |
| 21:32.36 | KriLL3 | just did the 3 barrens instances and got 10~ quests |
| 21:32.43 | pompy | just check wowhead.com and type in a zone, and lists teh quests that are in that zone |
| 21:32.58 | KriLL3 | I know, hard to know if you've done it yet though |
| 21:33.24 | pompy | well when I used Metamap, it kept track of quests I've done |
| 21:33.27 | KriLL3 | DM north quest chain I haven't done I think... I dunno where I left it or how to keep going though |
| 21:33.46 | KriLL3 | pompy: you've used it since day 1? =P my char is from day 1 |
| 21:33.50 | Gnarfoz | pompy: just get MailFu from there, it still works. ;) |
| 21:34.04 | pompy | lol |
| 21:35.46 | Hjalte | Can anyone tell me a good website for buying a headset to someone in UK? |
| 21:37.01 | asmodai | KriLL3: You did select tracking type low-level quests? |
| 21:37.06 | Gnarfoz | any site, enter recipient address? |
| 21:37.10 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 21:37.12 | Gnarfoz | you don't need special sites for that |
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| 21:39.25 | Neffi | Is there a way to put a watch on the activity of a specific folder in XP? Or would you need a program? |
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| 21:41.51 | Gnarfoz | FileMon |
| 21:42.17 | Neffi | I don't actually need the program |
| 21:42.48 | KriLL3 | wtf, I'm all over the area tooga is supposed to be according to wowhead and thottbot, and my macro to target him isn't getting anything, neither is my track quests |
| 21:43.15 | Neffi | He's an escort no? |
| 21:43.19 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 21:43.19 | Neffi | Somebody might be on the escort |
| 21:43.28 | Neffi | It's a long escort IIRC |
| 21:43.40 | ulic | did they already nerf the xp from 60->70? |
| 21:43.43 | Neffi | Plus, I believe he wanders a bit. At least more than Wowhead is reporting. |
| 21:44.00 | KriLL3 | Neffi: I've been all over that area spamming a target macro |
| 21:44.12 | Neffi | Wait 20 min then. Somebody's probably on the quest. |
| 21:44.21 | Raegx | he has a pat |
| 21:44.26 | Raegx | and only 1 person can interact w/ him at a time |
| 21:44.37 | Raegx | so if someone else is escorting him back to his home....you have to wait |
| 21:44.40 | Gnarfoz | also, /1 is your friend. ask if somebody's doing the escort :) |
| 21:44.56 | doom0r | lies Gnarfoz |
| 21:45.05 | doom0r | hates /1 |
| 21:45.25 | Gnarfoz | I loves my /1 in raids |
| 21:45.35 | Raegx | replies to ppl asking him to run pug bt/hyjal that he doesn't have the gear for it. |
| 21:45.58 | Gnarfoz | Raegx: fail! just tag along! fun is to be had ;p |
| 21:46.13 | Raegx | lol |
| 21:46.18 | Raegx | i need nothing from there |
| 21:46.56 | pompy | you would if you don't have the gear for it ;) |
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| 21:47.33 | Raegx | lol its something like that |
| 21:47.55 | pompy | lol, t6 gloves were almost givin to a warrior with blue gloves on.. and i had t4.. i was soo pissedd |
| 21:48.05 | pompy | but i got him to let me have them lol |
| 21:48.43 | Gnarfoz | they should clearly have gone to other guy. :p |
| 21:49.01 | pompy | hah upgrading from blues to t6.. psh. and it was only his second raid |
| 21:49.04 | pompy | it was my like 3453453 |
| 21:49.21 | pompy | more than 1 defender never drops lol |
| 21:49.37 | Raegx | i hate that they nerfed that content |
| 21:49.43 | Raegx | so many people don't desrve to see it |
| 21:49.51 | Gnarfoz | everyone deserves to see it |
| 21:49.52 | doom0r | what's the most complete quest repeater? |
| 21:49.55 | pompy | lol, archimonde is still a bitch. |
| 21:50.06 | Gnarfoz | everyone deservers a chance at utter failure :p |
| 21:50.13 | Gnarfoz | oh shi- sarah palin pr0n in my inbox D: |
| 21:50.47 | pompy | gotta love when ppl dont know hwo to stay outa volcanos on supremus |
| 21:50.53 | Raegx | i wish they didn't remove the attunements from kael and vashj, nerfing tk/ssc is fine. I'm ok w/ them nerfing hyjal/bt but they shouldn't have touched illidan/archimond |
| 21:50.57 | Raegx | and they shouldn't have touched swp |
| 21:51.43 | pompy | a guild on my server had the legendary bow offa KJ drop twice, 2 hunters haev it |
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| 21:52.50 | asmodai | mmm |
| 21:52.55 | Stanzilla | nooo |
| 21:53.00 | Stanzilla | Viktor3b fucking up bugsack |
| 21:53.23 | asmodai | I don't get this, why is the normal quest log keep selecting tracking whenever I kill a mob, the resulting quest frame overlaps questhelper's :S |
| 21:54.07 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: ahaha :D |
| 21:54.21 | charon | Xinhuan: packager unstuck, you can tag again |
| 21:54.36 | Xinhuan | cool |
| 21:54.40 | Xinhuan | what made it stuck? |
| 21:55.19 | charon | no idea |
| 21:55.23 | Gnarfoz | neat thing is, no re-tagging necessary, but you waited to tag anyway ;> |
| 21:55.49 | charon | yeah, it recovered cleanly... as it wasn't the packager's fault |
| 21:57.46 | kenlyric | asmodai: are you using sexymap? |
| 21:57.50 | kenlyric | I had that problem |
| 21:59.29 | doom0r | automatic quest tracking? |
| 21:59.43 | Xinhuan | interesting |
| 22:01.35 | asmodai | kenl: yeah |
| 22:01.42 | asmodai | kenlyric: as a matter of fact I am |
| 22:01.57 | asmodai | and aside from questhelper I have no addons that mess with quests (that I know of) |
| 22:02.27 | doom0r | asmodai: your blizz option for auto quest tracking is off? |
| 22:02.35 | asmodai | I am already happy Antiarc fixed the quest timer frame |
| 22:02.51 | asmodai | doom0r: Could very well not be! *double checks* (too many alts and configs) |
| 22:03.20 | asmodai | doom0r: and indeed, that option was still on *sigh* |
| 22:03.25 | asmodai | Thanks for pointing out the obvious. |
| 22:03.44 | doom0r | ;x |
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| 22:06.38 | asmodai | hey Ackis |
| 22:06.59 | EthanCentaurai | Ackis drycoded my mum :( |
| 22:08.19 | Ackis | heya asmodai |
| 22:08.22 | Ackis | net went out earlier |
| 22:08.57 | asmodai | :S |
| 22:09.08 | asmodai | Ackis: Gonna mess with those data collectors tomorrow for arl |
| 22:10.11 | Ackis | asmodai: data-tools or the ARL one? I think the skill elvels are all fixed thanks to kagaro |
| 22:10.13 | sztanpet | oh yea, Ackis are you aware of the ui issues about url? (the search box not activating and "none" checkbox does bad things) |
| 22:10.23 | sztanpet | arl |
| 22:10.31 | Ackis | sztanpet: negative, didn't know about those |
| 22:10.39 | Ackis | well search box isn't implemented... yet |
| 22:11.02 | asmodai | Ackis: are they? |
| 22:11.18 | asmodai | Ackis: but arl is not updated yet, is it? |
| 22:11.27 | Ackis | asmodai: I think so with 1011 |
| 22:11.45 | Ackis | sztanpet: What bad things with none? it worked perfectly for me here now |
| 22:11.55 | asmodai | Ackis: which is probably not pushed to beta/release on curse? |
| 22:12.16 | Ackis | asmodai: yah it's not |
| 22:12.31 | asmodai | *nod* 10-31 version |
| 22:12.44 | Ackis | http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/305/584/AckisRecipeList-r1011.zip |
| 22:12.54 | sztanpet | Ackis it deselected my checkboxes but seemingly it put a few things on top of each other into the bottom right corner of that sub-windows |
| 22:12.56 | sztanpet | -s |
| 22:13.19 | sztanpet | tested it about two days ago, maybe its gone ill recheck |
| 22:13.24 | Ackis | sztanpet: fixed already I believe, look at the one I just linked |
| 22:13.30 | sztanpet | kk |
| 22:17.26 | sztanpet | yea its fixed |
| 22:17.40 | sztanpet | inscription is still bugged tho, but i think thats expected |
| 22:22.40 | Antiarc | ckknight: I think Curse's "highest rated addons" is broken >_> |
| 22:23.14 | KriLL3 | yay 10 quests to go, found 4 more in barrens and durotar |
| 22:27.46 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * RC3-39-g16d3d88 Omen.toc: [+1 commit] Update version number to 3.0.0 |
| 22:28.23 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 04v3.0.0 * cc84fc6 /: [new tag] Tag release v3.0.0 |
| 22:30.49 | Repo | 10glyphrecolor: 03kilrogg * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): + added Baggins support |
| 22:30.50 | Repo | % strip embeds.xml from toc if no-lib |
| 22:33.14 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 041.1-beta2 * 830dc8a /: [new tag, +1 commits] - Second beta for 1.1, includes support for .secureTemplates and .OnCreate |
| 22:33.23 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.1-beta2 Core.lua: [+1 commit] - added support for .secureTemplates and .OnCreate |
| 22:33.41 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r18 / (11 files in 2 directories): Utopia: Massive update. |
| 22:33.42 | Repo | - Now uses combat log so debuff ownership and reliable values can be presented. Behaviour for this when you come into range of something that was not visible before is yet un-tested and un-accounted for, so don't be surprised if it doesn't like it. |
| 22:33.46 | Repo | - Hunter pets now accounted for, and show the correct availablility of debuffs dependant on pet type. |
| 22:33.51 | Repo | - NOTE: Savage Combat (combat rogue) won't work at all atm cos I'm gonna have to work around the bug that WoW omits it from combat log entirely. |
| 22:35.02 | Gnarfoz | @project glyphrecolor |
| 22:35.02 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/glyphrecolor/. GlyphRecolor. Game: WoW. Leader: kilrogg. Updated: 3 minutes ago |
| 22:39.33 | Xinhuan | Zeksie, why can't you just check for buffs/debuffs when the player changes target? |
| 22:39.58 | Xinhuan | and just listen to aura changes |
| 22:40.03 | Zeksie | i'll do that as a backup, but UnitBuff() does not tell you who casted it |
| 22:40.23 | Zeksie | so you can't get accurate numbers for it's value (talented etc.) |
| 22:40.52 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 22:41.12 | Xinhuan | is the fact that a particular buff/debuff is talented or not matter? |
| 22:41.53 | Gnarfoz | as long as untalented versions can't overwrite talented ones and given you know who specced what? probably not |
| 22:41.54 | Zeksie | for this mod, yeah. it's meant to show how good you're debuffing, and if someone is using an untalented one does it and ppl don't notice, then this is bad.. but this mod should show this and make it apparent |
| 22:42.16 | Zeksie | sure. but RaidLeader sees X debuff and things 'good'. but in fact, it's not good |
| 22:42.19 | Xinhuan | how did you end up inspecting people's talents? |
| 22:42.22 | Gnarfoz | maybe leave that part out and point people to Scrub for that, instead? |
| 22:42.36 | Zeksie | using LibTalentQuery atm. seeing how reliable it is |
| 22:42.40 | Xinhuan | does the talented debuff use different spellIDs? |
| 22:42.41 | Gnarfoz | I've never used Scrub, but I heard it does exactly that part already |
| 22:42.46 | Zeksie | with a bit of queue pumping of myown |
| 22:43.06 | Zeksie | Xinhuan: some do. not looked at all yet (it's expensive to retalent a lot :) |
| 22:43.17 | Gnarfoz | do eet on beta, heh |
| 22:43.18 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:43.23 | Xinhuan | yeah do it on beta |
| 22:43.36 | Xinhuan | and/or ask for /combatlog, and also check wowhead |
| 22:43.40 | Zeksie | yeh. i will. but i'm .... MANY patches behind and they're sitll downloading |
| 22:44.21 | Zeksie | but when it's things like demo shout, you have the spell already. Imp demo shout does not appear as a different spell rank |
| 22:44.29 | Zeksie | so it's important to know WHO did it, so you can get that info from talents |
| 22:44.51 | Zeksie | if it's a spell learned from talents (trauma or whatever), it'll have the rank value of how many points you spent |
| 22:45.55 | Zeksie | i did think hard before i wrote the combat log engine. it just wasn't possible to get the numbers i wanted from checking auras |
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| 23:02.08 | Xinhuan | charon |
| 23:02.26 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: |
| 23:02.43 | Xinhuan | ping |
| 23:02.48 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 23:02.49 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 23:03.15 | Xinhuan | slaps Gnarfoz away with a large trout |
| 23:03.26 | Gnarfoz | just adding a bit of randomness to your day ;p |
| 23:03.32 | charon | threatens Xinhuan with a sign saying "~asktoask" |
| 23:03.34 | charon | :p |
| 23:04.04 | Gnarfoz | someone should make a smiley of that for the forums |
| 23:04.20 | Xinhuan | charon, so the git changelog for files |
| 23:04.21 | Gnarfoz | actually, I think there's auto generating scripts for that |
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| 23:04.29 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/files/67-rc3-39-g16d3d88/ |
| 23:04.31 | Xinhuan | like that one |
| 23:04.38 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I was wondering about it, too... what order is it in? random? ;D |
| 23:04.38 | Xinhuan | is just a list of commits from the last tag, yes? |
| 23:04.53 | Xinhuan | well it seems to be sorted by committer, then date |
| 23:05.07 | Xinhuan | rather than just by date |
| 23:05.14 | charon | yes |
| 23:05.18 | Xinhuan | and then when i tag it |
| 23:05.19 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/files/69-v3-0-0/ |
| 23:05.24 | Xinhuan | it now lists every damn commit |
| 23:05.26 | charon | and it has all commits that weren't on any tag so far |
| 23:05.48 | charon | for release tags, that "any tag" is also restricted to release tags |
| 23:05.48 | Xinhuan | are you sure this behavior is uh, good? |
| 23:05.57 | charon | so your first release has all commits in the changelog |
| 23:06.02 | Xinhuan | i see |
| 23:06.15 | Xinhuan | so how does beta tags do it? only checks from last release/beta tag? |
| 23:06.32 | charon | any tag |
| 23:06.50 | Xinhuan | would prefixing a date be useful? |
| 23:06.55 | charon | it was trivial to implement with git, and felt like the right thing, so i really include all commits on the tag in question but not reachable from any other tag |
| 23:07.05 | charon | shrugs |
| 23:07.09 | Xinhuan | as opposed to the commit id |
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| 23:08.33 | charon | dunno. make a ticket on the packager project saying to make that shortlog format configurable |
| 23:09.26 | charon | because well, the original version had only subjects like the standard shortlog does |
| 23:09.32 | charon | so then people came and wanted sha1s |
| 23:13.30 | Camci | guys i got a very annoying problem with bartender 4 :p |
| 23:13.32 | Xinhuan | hmm cbf |
| 23:13.39 | Xinhuan | not a very big issue |
| 23:13.51 | Camci | http://i34.tinypic.com/2jcfo5h.png |
| 23:13.59 | Camci | Im trying to put keybindings on the bottom line |
| 23:14.04 | Camci | but the keybinding doesnt show up?? |
| 23:14.10 | Camci | it shows fine on the above one |
| 23:14.12 | Xinhuan | its just that this means commits and their commit message must be very "healthy and readable" |
| 23:15.04 | Xinhuan | because charon |
| 23:15.06 | Xinhuan | if you consider this |
| 23:15.07 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/libsharedmedia-3-0/files/19-2/ |
| 23:15.29 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if unhealthy commit messages should be allowed ;p |
| 23:15.32 | Xinhuan | (2nd from top) |
| 23:15.39 | Xinhuan | its getting packaged and zipped |
| 23:15.44 | Xinhuan | into the changelog.txt too |
| 23:15.58 | nevcairiel | was on old wowace too :P |
| 23:16.00 | charon | same with the svn changelog, so what's your point |
| 23:16.02 | nevcairiel | and we cursed alot in there |
| 23:16.06 | Xinhuan | yeah yeah |
| 23:16.11 | charon | at least with git you can rewrite history to remove such mishaps before tagging |
| 23:16.12 | Xinhuan | shuld the commit mesage be updated then? |
| 23:16.13 | charon | if you really need to |
| 23:16.19 | Xinhuan | you can do it with svn too |
| 23:16.27 | charon | if you're the server admin, yes. |
| 23:16.34 | Repo | 10recountthreat: 03Elsia * r30 / (5 files in 1 directory): RecountThreat: |
| 23:16.35 | Repo | - 3.0.2 rewrite with much help from Omen3. |
| 23:16.36 | Repo | - No working TPS for now (set to 0) |
| 23:16.37 | Repo | - Alpha, please test. |
| 23:16.44 | charon | (or maybe i don't know that feature...) |
| 23:16.48 | Xinhuan | well its an open repo |
| 23:16.53 | Xinhuan | so anyone can go in and modify the commit message |
| 23:17.04 | nevcairiel | wonder if they setup the hooks correctly |
| 23:17.06 | nevcairiel | tries |
| 23:17.16 | Xinhuan | i've modified commit messages before lol |
| 23:17.22 | nevcairiel | charon: svn has a protocol to change history, i bet its ugly and dirty, but huh |
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| 23:17.34 | nevcairiel | history as in changing the message or the author |
| 23:17.37 | nevcairiel | not the commit itself |
| 23:17.55 | Xinhuan | oh noes, Elsia is taking over the the omen world ;p |
| 23:18.12 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 23:18.16 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 23:18.25 | Xinhuan | he has a threat plugin to recount |
| 23:18.51 | nevcairiel | there edited the log |
| 23:18.53 | Xinhuan | to show threat, as opposed to say damage or healing |
| 23:19.07 | Xinhuan | did the commit hooks complain? |
| 23:19.25 | Xinhuan | i wonder if a new commit will retrieve the new commit message |
| 23:19.34 | Xinhuan | in the creation of a new changelog.tx |
| 23:19.35 | Xinhuan | +t |
| 23:19.39 | charon | ah, so the svn:log revprop is it |
| 23:19.49 | charon | yes it will, the svn changelogs are generated from commits up to 1 month back |
| 23:19.57 | charon | but regenerated every time |
| 23:20.38 | Xinhuan | well yeah, that should fix the ticket from jncl complaining about it ;p |
| 23:22.29 | charon | that fixing raises an important issue however, and we should really disallow it |
| 23:22.48 | Xinhuan | modifying commit messages? |
| 23:22.58 | charon | i don't care too much about the original message, if arrowmaster really wants to go on record as swearing at others, that's his problem |
| 23:23.10 | Xinhuan | i (rarely) do it, if only to correct say a spelling error |
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| 23:23.22 | charon | but if anyone can insert anything into anyone's commit message, there might be an issue |
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| 23:23.42 | Xinhuan | you mean just like how anyone can tag any open repo? (or has this been fixed?) |
| 23:23.42 | charon | i suspect you could even change the author of a bad commit to shift the blame |
| 23:24.02 | charon | no, that's waiting for the necessary glue to the project databases so it can figure out the user's rights |
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| 23:26.24 | Xinhuan | would you like to do pullout bars again? :d |
| 23:27.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 23:27.28 | Xinhuan | they are PRETTY annoying to do |
| 23:27.46 | Xinhuan | considering you need to rescan for the UnitID on every raid change |
| 23:28.00 | nevcairiel | that doesnt sound too bad |
| 23:28.28 | nevcairiel | you could do a UnitGUID on your old unit first and see if its still the same |
| 23:28.40 | nevcairiel | that way you save alot of scanning |
| 23:37.45 | Fisker- | btw i sold the haris pilton bag for moneys |
| 23:37.56 | Fisker- | 1000g was a good price |
| 23:43.40 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: raidids should not change when the raid change event fires |
| 23:44.30 | Yssaril | unless they changed it you can quit the raid and as long as noone took your spot you will get your old raid# back |
| 23:49.48 | Ackis | goes rawr :( |
| 23:50.33 | Ackis | some little piece of trash ripped the license plate off my van last night |
| 23:50.40 | pentium166 | Is it possible to re-enable vendor dialogues? |
| 23:50.53 | Xinhuan | Yssaril, but it does |
| 23:51.02 | Xinhuan | raid unitIDs are numbered sequentially from 1 to N |
| 23:51.14 | Xinhuan | so if raid4 left the raid, everyone gets renumbered |
| 23:51.43 | Xinhuan | in fact everyone gets renumbered N-1 times |
| 23:51.49 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: it didn't before 3 not sure if it changed u used to have to scan 1-40 to make sure to catch everyone |
| 23:52.03 | Xinhuan | you only need to scan 1-N to catch everyone |
| 23:52.05 | Ackis | ~seen nymbia |
| 23:52.08 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 15d 23h 19m 40s ago, saying: 'lUa?'. |
| 23:52.08 | Xinhuan | not 1-40 |
| 23:52.17 | Ackis | :( |
| 23:52.17 | Xinhuan | been like this for a few years |
| 23:52.36 | Xinhuan | in fact PaRTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED will fire N-1 times |
| 23:52.54 | Xinhuan | because on the server side, it recreates the entire party/raid and readds every remaining raid member to it |
| 23:52.58 | Xinhuan | one by one |
| 23:53.15 | Xinhuan | and GetNumPartyMember() will go from 1 to 4 |
| 23:53.20 | Xinhuan | in the first 4 times it fires |
| 23:54.11 | Xinhuan | so poorly coded code would rescan the entire raid multiple times (as many as 80 once you start counting pets) |
| 23:54.29 | Neffi | Ouch |
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| 23:56.52 | Camci | anyone else having problem with bartender4 and keybindings?? |
| 23:57.16 | Ackis | rescans Xinhuan's party all night long rawr |
| 23:58.04 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: i knew the PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED issue but never heard about the RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE having the same issue |
| 23:58.24 | Xinhuan | the RRU issue was fixed back in patch 1.6 |
| 23:58.43 | Xinhuan | there was a similar issue on patch 2.0 |
| 23:58.53 | Xinhuan | remember how people would take forever to zone into AV? |
| 23:59.01 | Xinhuan | it was a similar issue |
| 23:59.04 | Yssaril | yea |
| 23:59.04 | Ackis | is hte special summon boss in kara still around? |
| 23:59.06 | Xinhuan | but with a different event |
| 23:59.10 | Xinhuan | UNIT_NAME was the event |
| 23:59.16 | Xinhuan | the fix was to unregister it |
