| 00:03.08 | Gnarfoz | 170 days :X |
| 00:03.10 | Gnarfoz | @project auditor2 |
| 00:03.11 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'auditor2' |
| 00:03.17 | Gnarfoz | nah, that's on WoWI, I think. |
| 00:03.26 | doom0r | an update, ya, think so |
| 00:03.29 | doom0r | cause mines newer |
| 00:03.49 | doom0r | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5429-FuBar-AuditorFu.html |
| 00:04.02 | doom0r | that says may |
| 00:04.26 | Gnarfoz | 3.2.1 at both. |
| 00:04.56 | doom0r | guess so |
| 00:05.01 | doom0r | that is indeed the version i have |
| 00:05.50 | angelike | a question: how can i find out, if my fubar plugin is hidden? |
| 00:07.44 | Gnarfoz | ~seen alarisha |
| 00:07.49 | purl | alarisha <n=alarisha@cpc2-acto11-0-0-cust965.brnt.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 43d 8h 13m 32s ago, saying: 'hi guys - can anyone point me to a decent doc on making modules in ace3?'. |
| 00:07.49 | *** join/#wowace Cavisty^gerber (n=Cavisty@c-98-192-211-166.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 00:07.57 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 00:07.58 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 00:08.52 | Stanzilla | hrm nice |
| 00:08.58 | Stanzilla | unlocked the new taskbar in win7 :D |
| 00:09.01 | Stanzilla | *drool* |
| 00:09.26 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 00:09.28 | dodga | pixxx? |
| 00:09.31 | Gnarfoz | and all it has is a git repo |
| 00:09.32 | Gnarfoz | :X |
| 00:09.37 | Gnarfoz | fucking unbelievable |
| 00:09.46 | Stanzilla | sec |
| 00:11.30 | Stanzilla | dodga: http://www.staneck.de/upload/files/c4989f-win7_superbar.png |
| 00:11.32 | Stanzilla | top |
| 00:11.49 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic 041.3.13 * r290 : |
| 00:11.50 | Repo | Tagging as 1.3.13. Fixes a bug causing the player's mana bar to sometimes not display full when it should. This typically only happened when a potion, mana gem, spell, etc. took the player to his max mana as opposed to gaining it through normal regen. |
| 00:11.51 | Zhinjio | Gnarfoz: Alarisha is apparently on schedule to have a new release of auditor to release when LK hits |
| 00:12.04 | dodga | Stanzilla: does not look that amazing :D |
| 00:12.07 | Zhinjio | and the current version on wowi works fine for left clicking for me |
| 00:12.15 | Zhinjio | (in fortress, not in fubar) |
| 00:12.27 | Gnarfoz | eh? |
| 00:12.29 | Bruners | height is way to high |
| 00:12.30 | Gnarfoz | left clicking does nothing |
| 00:12.37 | Gnarfoz | the plugin, not the tablet |
| 00:12.51 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 00:12.55 | Gnarfoz | to put money on the cursor, like moneyfu does it ;) |
| 00:13.01 | Zhinjio | ah, right. I never use the meny |
| 00:13.02 | Zhinjio | menu |
| 00:13.08 | Gnarfoz | that's not in the menu :p |
| 00:13.09 | *** join/#wowace `Zypher (n=zypher@adsl-69-109-166-58.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 00:13.13 | `Zypher | blah |
| 00:13.16 | Gnarfoz | bleh |
| 00:13.22 | Zhinjio | ok, then I don't know what you're talking about *grin* |
| 00:13.24 | Gnarfoz | I guess I'll have to learn how to clone and use a git repo :> |
| 00:13.39 | `Zypher | ? |
| 00:14.02 | `Zypher | git is pretty easy after you learn the basics |
| 00:14.10 | Gnarfoz | Zhinjio: when you left click moneyfu's fubar plugin (in the bar, not the tablet it pops out, not the menu you get by right clicking), it opens the blizz money pickup thingy |
| 00:14.21 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9056.13-1-gfddfcf6 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Skinner: Bugfix for Achievement error |
| 00:14.25 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 00:14.45 | Zhinjio | I don't ever give anyone else money, so I don't need that *grin* |
| 00:14.46 | selckin | that money pickup thing most be the most useless feature in the game |
| 00:14.55 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9056.14 * 4fde32f /: [new tag] Tagging as b1.9056.14 |
| 00:15.01 | Gnarfoz | `Zypher: git is so fucking ridicoulously more complicated and different than svn it's not even funny :P but since I'm gonna be around wow and wowace for some time to come, I might just as well try and learn to use it ;) |
| 00:15.06 | doom0r | you don't need that for anythign anyways |
| 00:15.10 | doom0r | bloat |
| 00:15.33 | selckin | Gnarfoz: git is ridicoulsly better too |
| 00:15.38 | Gnarfoz | it's different, not better |
| 00:15.47 | Gnarfoz | oh well, parts of it may be better |
| 00:15.47 | selckin | its better |
| 00:15.53 | Gnarfoz | +' |
| 00:15.55 | selckin | svn can't even merge |
| 00:15.57 | `Zypher | Gnarfoz: see im young so I learned git and know nothing of svn |
| 00:16.02 | Gnarfoz | +' again |
| 00:16.02 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 00:16.23 | Xinhuan | whoa |
| 00:16.29 | Xinhuan | when did Jncl convert Skinner to git |
| 00:16.35 | Gnarfoz | hmm I guess all I have to do is clone that repo and make the changes to the fubar plugin |
| 00:16.42 | Gnarfoz | and then point alarisha to my clone? |
| 00:16.43 | Antiarc | git is more complicated than SVN? |
| 00:16.47 | Antiarc | It's different |
| 00:16.50 | Gnarfoz | can I even clone a private repo? |
| 00:16.51 | Antiarc | But it's not complicated |
| 00:16.56 | `Zypher | Antiarc: different == complicated |
| 00:16.57 | `Zypher | dug |
| 00:17.00 | `Zypher | duh* |
| 00:17.02 | Antiarc | You can clone anyhting you can read the .git directory for |
| 00:17.03 | selckin | you need to know more things about git then svn for daily use imo |
| 00:17.05 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: the name says it all. it's intended to not be user-friendly :P |
| 00:17.09 | selckin | bbecause you can do more things with git then svn |
| 00:17.14 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: that was a wowace specific question |
| 00:17.17 | selckin | so in that sense i can agree |
| 00:17.23 | Antiarc | Oh. Probably not. |
| 00:17.36 | `Zypher | who wants to play some cod5 with me? |
| 00:18.06 | doom0r | someone who like bad games/ |
| 00:18.07 | `Zypher | sighhh |
| 00:18.25 | `Zypher | what's wrong with it? |
| 00:18.49 | Gnarfoz | are they already at 5? |
| 00:18.50 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 00:19.06 | KriLL3 | It's not 5 |
| 00:19.38 | KriLL3 | numbers are reserved for the main developer, the other developers and their shitty games can't called numbers |
| 00:19.48 | `Zypher | COD: W@W |
| 00:19.49 | `Zypher | sorry |
| 00:20.06 | `Zypher | its COD4 in WWII |
| 00:20.18 | `Zypher | and some new questionable features |
| 00:22.37 | Codayus | KriLL3: Actually no; Treyarch did COD3. |
| 00:25.16 | Repo | 10proximo: 03Grayhoof 04beta v2.41 * r150 : Tagging as beta v2.41. |
| 00:25.21 | Repo | 10socialist: 03eblume * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): Socialist: |
| 00:25.21 | Repo | - Loading errors fixed |
| 00:29.10 | CIA-27 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r5af7d58 10/ tekIDmemo.lua : Embed update - http://is.gd/5CtL |
| 00:29.15 | CIA-27 | buffet: 03Tekkub 07master * r7d69cee 10/ Buffet.lua : Those argent guys are a bunch of potheads - http://is.gd/5CtR |
| 00:29.56 | [SW]Dodge | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6584630621&sid=3 <- /cheer blizzard for a bugged game (german) |
| 00:30.20 | Xinhuan | [SW]Dodge: translate to english pls |
| 00:30.52 | Gnarfoz | nothing interesting |
| 00:30.59 | Gnarfoz | some broken char, it happens |
| 00:31.07 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz, wanna learn git? :) |
| 00:31.07 | Gnarfoz | probably corrupted db entries :p |
| 00:31.20 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: short form: a guild mate is 24/7 afk flagged, does not logout, cant shapeshift w/o DC nothing helps |
| 00:31.22 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: I have to at some point, I guess |
| 00:31.32 | Xinhuan | we can help ;p |
| 00:31.35 | Gnarfoz | I don't really see the use though, because I'm never offline :p |
| 00:31.38 | Xinhuan | go install git first |
| 00:31.47 | Gnarfoz | trouble starts right there |
| 00:31.52 | Gnarfoz | what's the best win32 git |
| 00:32.00 | Xinhuan | you can get "Git GUI" |
| 00:32.06 | Gnarfoz | cli is fine |
| 00:32.07 | Xinhuan | which comes with both a commandline and GUI for git |
| 00:32.12 | Gnarfoz | as long as I don't need cygwin |
| 00:32.16 | Xinhuan | you don't |
| 00:32.33 | Gnarfoz | there should me SmartGit :\ SmartSVN is so awesome ^^ |
| 00:33.59 | Xinhuan | well install something first |
| 00:34.31 | [SW]Dodge | need TortoiseGIT, maybe i'll try git then too :P |
| 00:34.33 | Gnarfoz | it's asinine that sourceforge now requires JS so that you can even use their pages |
| 00:34.39 | Gnarfoz | ewww tortoise |
| 00:34.44 | Gnarfoz | I don't even use explorer :P |
| 00:34.49 | [SW]Dodge | ^^ |
| 00:34.50 | Zhinjio | good lord. |
| 00:34.58 | Zhinjio | I think I'm finished converting the documentation over finally |
| 00:35.21 | Zhinjio | #project SKG |
| 00:35.25 | Zhinjio | @project SKG |
| 00:35.25 | Repo | Zhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg/. SKG. Game: WoW. Leader: Zhinjio. Updated: 3 days ago |
| 00:36.02 | Gnarfoz | http://www.spearce.org/2007/07/wide-gitk.gif < ouch ;D |
| 00:37.19 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: hmm |
| 00:37.44 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: normally I'm not this bad at using the net to find stuff... but where do I actually *get* Git GUI? |
| 00:37.50 | *** join/#wowace pakoz9 (n=pakoz@71-93-39-179.static.snlo.ca.charter.com) |
| 00:38.12 | [SW]Dodge | Gnarfoz: apt-get install gitk :P |
| 00:38.17 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: i use this one |
| 00:38.18 | Xinhuan | http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ |
| 00:38.21 | Gnarfoz | ~fail [SW]Dodge |
| 00:38.21 | purl | [SW]Dodge, you Fail! |
| 00:38.36 | Arrowmaster | git gui is part of git |
| 00:38.52 | Gnarfoz | ahh, yeah, google somehow led me to think that, too |
| 00:38.53 | Arrowmaster | its an actual command called `git gui` |
| 00:39.00 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 00:39.02 | doom0r | aptitude install git |
| 00:39.07 | Xinhuan | just that there's different versions of it |
| 00:39.10 | doom0r | or run cygwin's installer |
| 00:39.31 | Arrowmaster | there are different packages of git, if thats what you are talking about |
| 00:39.32 | doom0r | if you don't have aptitude, run apt-get install aptitude |
| 00:39.42 | Xinhuan | but if you're unsure, you can use the same one that i use |
| 00:39.45 | Xinhuan | which i linked above |
| 00:39.47 | doom0r | if you don't have apt, you should have portage or entropy ;x |
| 00:39.58 | Gnarfoz | doom0r, [SW]Dodge, <anyone else>: Win32 damnit :p |
| 00:40.01 | Arrowmaster | most people use msysgit on windows i think |
| 00:40.08 | doom0r | cygwin |
| 00:40.12 | Gnarfoz | not cygwin. |
| 00:40.13 | Xinhuan | once you have installed it, we can teach you how to clone, checkout, commit on it :) |
| 00:40.18 | [SW]Dodge | Gnarfoz: i use win32 too :P |
| 00:40.31 | Gnarfoz | [SW]Dodge: with aptitude? what an abomination, then :P |
| 00:40.32 | doom0r | ~epic fail Gnarfoz |
| 00:40.32 | purl | Gnarfoz, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Gnarfoz, you are that epic failure. |
| 00:40.47 | [SW]Dodge | Gnarfoz: 2nd pc runs with ubuntu^^ |
| 00:40.49 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: using another OS than you like best is not epic fail worthy :P |
| 00:41.00 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: can i learn too? :D |
| 00:41.02 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 00:41.04 | doom0r | failing to use the best tools on said os is fail |
| 00:41.06 | Gnarfoz | [SW]Dodge: triple boot here. ubuntu, vista, xp |
| 00:41.19 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: cygwin is by no means good, not even close to 'best' |
| 00:41.26 | Xinhuan | http://git.or.cz/ is the official website for almost everything git |
| 00:41.35 | Gnarfoz | I'd sooner install andLinux than use cygwin :p |
| 00:41.38 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: it works, and that's all most of us care about |
| 00:41.45 | Xinhuan | no crashes, no nothing yet |
| 00:42.02 | Gnarfoz | meh, for people so anal about coding stuff, I'd have thought otherwise :D |
| 00:42.08 | Gnarfoz | *installs stuff* |
| 00:42.11 | pakoz9 | can anyone help me with a macro, i want to switch between tracking herbs/tracking minerals |
| 00:42.31 | Gngsk | /castsequence Track Herbs, Track Minerals |
| 00:42.34 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.38 | Gnarfoz | or that --^ |
| 00:42.46 | Gngsk | Gngsk wins the battle of the Gns |
| 00:42.47 | pakoz9 | is one better than the other? |
| 00:42.54 | Arrowmaster | i actually do use linux, i use a windows x server and ssh to my linux box |
| 00:42.55 | Gngsk | one requires you to press shift |
| 00:42.58 | Gnarfoz | they do different things ;) |
| 00:43.00 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: if you install the one at http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/ though, it should come with explorer extensions similr to TortoiseSVN :) |
| 00:43.04 | pakoz9 | oh i see |
| 00:43.08 | Xinhuan | that's for [SW]Dodge too |
| 00:43.12 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: far from it |
| 00:43.15 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: well, I hope they're optional, I don't use explorer :D |
| 00:43.23 | Xinhuan | well yeah it isn't quite like it ;p |
| 00:43.27 | Arrowmaster | its not an explorer extension at all |
| 00:43.31 | Xinhuan | the menu only has 2 options |
| 00:43.35 | Xinhuan | Bash and GUI lol! |
| 00:43.37 | Arrowmaster | its just two additons to the context menu |
| 00:43.44 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: well, I could do that, too, my server/router is debian. ages old, though. :D |
| 00:43.45 | Xinhuan | its still an extension somewhat |
| 00:44.15 | Gnarfoz | optional, yay! |
| 00:44.16 | Xinhuan | i use GUi for most things, but i use Bash sometimes |
| 00:44.17 | Arrowmaster | which are added via registry entries and not by an actual explorer hook like tsvn |
| 00:44.18 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: Git-1.6.0.2-preview20080923.exe ? :) |
| 00:44.20 | Gnarfoz | at least someone was sane ;) |
| 00:44.24 | Xinhuan | [SW]Dodge: ya |
| 00:44.33 | Xinhuan | actually dodge |
| 00:44.38 | Xinhuan | get 1.5.6 i think |
| 00:44.44 | Gnarfoz | I think I'll even leave "GUI here" on |
| 00:44.44 | Arrowmaster | 1.6 |
| 00:44.54 | Xinhuan | either way both works |
| 00:45.04 | Gnarfoz | what is "git bash" in this case? |
| 00:45.13 | Gnarfoz | does it bring it's own win32 compile of bash to run? |
| 00:45.18 | Xinhuan | git bash is the environment that brings up a dos prompt |
| 00:45.20 | Arrowmaster | it just opens a command window and runs bash |
| 00:45.23 | Xinhuan | for you to type in dos commands |
| 00:45.27 | Xinhuan | i.e git blah blah |
| 00:45.30 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 00:45.34 | Xinhuan | if you like command lines :) |
| 00:45.39 | Gnarfoz | the next option is "run git from the windows command prompt" |
| 00:45.53 | Xinhuan | there's things you can do on the command line the GUI can't do |
| 00:45.56 | Arrowmaster | pick the middle one |
| 00:45.57 | pakoz9 | ./castsequence Track Herbs, Track Minerals ---- doesnt seem to work |
| 00:46.09 | Xinhuan | pakoz9: cos the spell name is Find Herbs and Find Minerals |
| 00:46.15 | pakoz9 | ah |
| 00:46.16 | pakoz9 | lol |
| 00:46.19 | Gnarfoz | tricked you |
| 00:46.19 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 00:46.41 | Gnarfoz | plink support, yay |
| 00:46.47 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 00:46.51 | [SW]Dodge | cant decide if bash only or one of the other choices :D |
| 00:46.53 | pakoz9 | works now, works perfect, even shows the icon |
| 00:47.09 | Xinhuan | just get both |
| 00:47.12 | Xinhuan | you wANT the gui |
| 00:47.16 | Gnarfoz | [SW]Dodge: I just went with what Arrow said because... no reason. :D |
| 00:47.20 | Xinhuan | to visualize braching and trees |
| 00:47.26 | Xinhuan | and to display diffs easily |
| 00:47.28 | Xinhuan | in the GUI |
| 00:47.46 | Xinhuan | but you also want Bash because you can do complicated with it |
| 00:47.46 | Arrowmaster | actual the diffs in the gui dont work perfectly on windows |
| 00:47.51 | pakoz9 | thanks |
| 00:48.05 | Arrowmaster | utf8 support is broken on windows but works fine on linux |
| 00:48.32 | Xinhuan | ya, well atm, it just forces all \n to \r\n |
| 00:48.38 | Gnarfoz | I need another command line for windows, cmd.exe is just too basic :\ |
| 00:48.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:48.47 | Xinhuan | i haven't figured out why |
| 00:48.51 | Gnarfoz | eConsole is abandoned |
| 00:48.54 | Gnarfoz | as is console |
| 00:48.58 | Arrowmaster | i mean that you see garbaled crap for utf8 characters in the windows gui diff |
| 00:48.59 | dracula | Gnarfoz: 4NT |
| 00:49.03 | Gnarfoz | ugh |
| 00:49.07 | Gnarfoz | 4nt still exists |
| 00:49.07 | Xinhuan | oh you mean the text display Arrowmaster? |
| 00:49.08 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 00:49.10 | Arrowmaster | but the actual correct characters on linux |
| 00:49.17 | Xinhuan | yeah the diffs just show the garbled chars |
| 00:49.23 | Bruners | is there two poisons vendors? one with 60+ and one for the lesser? |
| 00:49.39 | [SW]Dodge | ok git installed and git bash started =D |
| 00:49.42 | Xinhuan | i imagine they will fix it in some future release |
| 00:49.43 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: it comes with rxvt |
| 00:49.47 | Bruners | if so where is the 60+ one |
| 00:49.49 | Repo | 10onebag3: 03Kaelten * r30 / (3 files in 1 directory): hopefully this commit will fix the grayed out items bug |
| 00:49.49 | Repo | removes the custom config window |
| 00:49.57 | Xinhuan | ok dodge, lets start by cloning an existing repo |
| 00:49.59 | Gnarfoz | [SW]Dodge: how? :\ |
| 00:50.14 | [SW]Dodge | Gnarfoz: hu? |
| 00:50.20 | Arrowmaster | right click a folder in explorer |
| 00:50.28 | Gnarfoz | you used the 'start gui bash' link? |
| 00:50.33 | Xinhuan | dodge, see |
| 00:50.35 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/mapster/repositories/mainline/ |
| 00:50.36 | Gnarfoz | that just starts cmd.exe with something in it |
| 00:50.38 | [SW]Dodge | i selected the middl option then ssh and then after installation i 2x clicked "Git Bash" shortcut :P |
| 00:50.43 | Xinhuan | see the public URL there? |
| 00:50.43 | Gnarfoz | that shell is bad :< |
| 00:50.56 | Gnarfoz | sh.exe :D |
| 00:51.02 | Arrowmaster | its bash |
| 00:51.17 | Xinhuan | [SW]Dodge, do you want to clone mapster via command line, or via GUI? ;p |
| 00:51.25 | Gnarfoz | if it's bash, it still runs INSIDE cmd.exe |
| 00:51.37 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: what is easier? |
| 00:51.38 | Arrowmaster | like i said theres rxvt if you want to use it |
| 00:51.40 | Gnarfoz | rxvt however as you kindly pointed out, acts like a standalone program :) |
| 00:51.42 | Xinhuan | equally easy |
| 00:51.45 | Gnarfoz | which seems nice |
| 00:51.59 | Gnarfoz | although I've never used it before :D |
| 00:51.59 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: cmdline :D |
| 00:52.00 | Xinhuan | one is a command line "git clone git://git.wowace.com/wow/mapster/mainline.git" which you type inside a new folder |
| 00:52.02 | Arrowmaster | youll have to make a proper shortcut to rxvt though to start it properly |
| 00:52.07 | [SW]Dodge | so i can use it on my ubutntu too :D |
| 00:52.12 | Xinhuan | the other is "right click on a folder in explorer, choose Git GUI here" |
| 00:52.23 | Xinhuan | and a window pops up and asks you want u want to do, and you click "clone existing repo" |
| 00:52.26 | Xinhuan | and type in the URL |
| 00:52.30 | Arrowmaster | i never use the gui for cloning |
| 00:52.32 | Repo | 10nier: 03Kriery * r19 / (7 files in 1 directory): Nier: |
| 00:52.33 | Repo | - Fix .pkgmeta externals |
| 00:52.34 | Repo | - Adds several options: secondary trinket, addon message |
| 00:52.34 | Repo | - Remove druid gear: Charm of Swift Flight |
| 00:52.43 | Xinhuan | its equally easy |
| 00:52.47 | Xinhuan | go do it |
| 00:52.56 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: 1 sek i'll ssh my ubuntu box, git bash cant copy/paste :( |
| 00:53.06 | Arrowmaster | yes it can |
| 00:53.12 | Arrowmaster | its just limited by cmd.exe |
| 00:53.15 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 00:53.20 | Arrowmaster | stupid mark copy paste shit |
| 00:53.21 | Xinhuan | you click the "-" menu in the corner |
| 00:53.23 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 00:53.24 | Gnarfoz | cmd.exe sucks. :X |
| 00:53.25 | Xinhuan | and choose Edit -> Paste |
| 00:53.34 | Gnarfoz | but you could just enable quick edit mode ;) |
| 00:54.02 | Xinhuan | have you cloned it dodge? :) |
| 00:54.15 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: got clone on ubuntu |
| 00:54.21 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 00:54.30 | Xinhuan | now type "gitk --all" |
| 00:54.34 | *** join/#wowace Aiiane (n=Aiiane@starfire.ST.HMC.Edu) |
| 00:54.41 | Xinhuan | it should run a program that shows you the development tree |
| 00:54.48 | Xinhuan | and every commit |
| 00:54.50 | Xinhuan | and their diffs |
| 00:55.02 | Xinhuan | do u see it? |
| 00:55.21 | Xinhuan | you will also be able to see branching and merging etc |
| 00:55.53 | Xinhuan | so far so good? |
| 00:56.05 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: noes -.- gitk fails with putty :P |
| 00:56.11 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:56.19 | Gnarfoz | so I guess I can't clone private git repos, then |
| 00:56.20 | Arrowmaster | xming |
| 00:56.21 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 00:56.22 | Arrowmaster | install it |
| 00:56.31 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz: they are private for a reason ;p |
| 00:56.37 | Xinhuan | i.e not for cloning! |
| 00:56.39 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: well. |
| 00:57.01 | Gnarfoz | they should be read-only, not don't-read |
| 00:57.14 | Arrowmaster | which repos? |
| 00:57.22 | Xinhuan | are u using the Public URL |
| 00:57.25 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 00:57.25 | Xinhuan | or the private URL? |
| 00:57.33 | Gnarfoz | I doubt I have the private url |
| 00:57.49 | Xinhuan | for github, i think you need to have an account |
| 00:57.52 | Gnarfoz | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/auditor-fu/repositories/mainline/ |
| 00:57.55 | Gnarfoz | wowace |
| 00:58.00 | Gnarfoz | or cf |
| 00:58.00 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: ok copied clone from linux to windows and now agian working here^^ |
| 00:58.08 | [SW]Dodge | gitk --all shows the gui :D |
| 00:58.13 | Xinhuan | ok do u have the gitk program running? |
| 00:58.16 | Xinhuan | see the history |
| 00:58.18 | Repo | 10onebag3: 03Kaelten * r31 / (2 files in 1 directory): I think the last fix was overkill toning it down slightly |
| 00:58.22 | Xinhuan | and all the commits, diffs, branching, merging |
| 00:58.26 | Arrowmaster | git clone git://git.curseforge.net/wow/auditor-fu/mainline.git |
| 00:58.34 | Xinhuan | you can also see the tags |
| 00:58.48 | Xinhuan | you can right click on any of those commits fo a list of options |
| 00:58.48 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: yea |
| 00:58.54 | Xinhuan | such as "checkout to this commit" |
| 00:58.55 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: that's what I did - remote end hung up |
| 00:59.04 | Arrowmaster | let me try |
| 00:59.07 | Xinhuan | or create a new branch from any commit |
| 00:59.15 | Xinhuan | and create diffs and stuff |
| 00:59.25 | Xinhuan | dodge: ok lets try it the GUI way |
| 00:59.30 | Gnarfoz | ugh, rxvt seems jailed inside git's install directory oO |
| 00:59.32 | Xinhuan | go to explorer, where you cloned Mapster |
| 00:59.42 | Xinhuan | right click on the folder u cloned it in |
| 00:59.46 | Xinhuan | choose "Git GUI here" |
| 01:00.09 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: you need to properly start rxvt, just running it wont work you need the proper options to make it work right |
| 01:00.22 | Xinhuan | look at the Repository menu, "Visuallize all branch history" is the same as "gitk --all" |
| 01:00.24 | Xinhuan | go try it |
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| 01:00.44 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: well, not to mix up 2 things here - I tried cloning via git gui, the rxvt stuff is unrelated so far ;) |
| 01:00.54 | Kaelten | can I get a few people to try http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/306/169/OneBag3-r31.zip |
| 01:00.59 | Arrowmaster | auditor-fu is broken |
| 01:01.02 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: ping |
| 01:01.18 | Xinhuan | when you're ready for the next step, say so ;p |
| 01:01.25 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: pong |
| 01:01.35 | Zhinjio | Kaelten: I'm loading it right now |
| 01:01.38 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: git clone git://git.curseforge.net/wow/auditor-fu/mainline.git |
| 01:01.41 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: broken |
| 01:01.50 | Arrowmaster | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 01:02.02 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: cant find Visuallize all branch history :/ maybe couz i have german >.< *searching* |
| 01:02.13 | Xinhuan | its the 4th menu item |
| 01:02.16 | Xinhuan | in the 1st menu |
| 01:02.21 | Gnarfoz | why do you burden yourself with localized programs :p |
| 01:02.27 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: yeah found it :) |
| 01:02.30 | Zhinjio | Kaelten: no issues. Am I looking for something specific? |
| 01:02.31 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 01:02.40 | Xinhuan | right now, you need to understand that you have done is clone a repo, you don't have a branch yet |
| 01:02.48 | Kaelten | Zhinjio: grayed out items, and freezing when hitting the config screen? |
| 01:02.53 | Xinhuan | in Git GUI, you see "Current branch" none right? |
| 01:03.14 | Zhinjio | there was a short freeze when opening config, went away after about 1 second |
| 01:03.22 | [SW]Dodge | below the menubar? |
| 01:03.25 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 01:03.35 | [SW]Dodge | its master |
| 01:03.38 | [SW]Dodge | for me |
| 01:03.40 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 01:03.42 | Xinhuan | even better |
| 01:03.43 | Zhinjio | I don't see any greyed out items |
| 01:03.51 | Xinhuan | go to Mapster, go edit any file |
| 01:03.53 | Xinhuan | say the TOC file |
| 01:03.56 | Xinhuan | make some changes |
| 01:03.57 | Kaelten | Zhinjio: a short freeze? |
| 01:03.59 | Xinhuan | and save the file |
| 01:04.03 | Zhinjio | its not using the default addon config? |
| 01:04.11 | Xinhuan | then go back to Git GUI and hit F5 to refresh |
| 01:04.33 | Zhinjio | there... I think there's a layer missing in the config |
| 01:04.57 | Xinhuan | you should see the file you changed on the left in "unstaged changes", and if you select it, a diff appears on the right |
| 01:05.04 | Zhinjio | the top level menu (in theory) should say "OneBag3" instead it is: "OneBag3: Appearance & Layout" |
| 01:05.07 | Zhinjio | but thats a nit |
| 01:05.22 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: the repo doesn't exist, which likely means it's never been pushed to |
| 01:05.29 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:05.31 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan : done :) |
| 01:05.33 | Xinhuan | you can right click in the diff area for a menu to show less/more context, and other options |
| 01:05.44 | Xinhuan | so far ok? |
| 01:06.06 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 01:06.26 | Xinhuan | now this is the important part of git concepts - there are "3 copies" of your branch essentially |
| 01:06.28 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: theres your answer |
| 01:06.46 | Xinhuan | the first copy is the one that is "current" or what is already commited |
| 01:06.57 | Xinhuan | the second copy is your working copy, which you just modified |
| 01:07.08 | Xinhuan | the 3rd copy, is called a "staging area" |
| 01:07.13 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: k, I see |
| 01:07.34 | Xinhuan | what git does is, when you make changes, it performs diffs from your Working Copy, against your Staging Copy |
| 01:07.56 | Xinhuan | when you are happy with your changes, you "Stage the changes", which is a "temporary commit area" |
| 01:08.00 | Arrowmaster | the terms stage and index are used a lot to mean the same thing |
| 01:08.11 | Xinhuan | and you go change more stuff in your working copy, and you "commit" to the staging area |
| 01:08.39 | Xinhuan | once you are done with all your changes, then you do a Real commit, which commits stuff from the staging area to the actual branch |
| 01:08.57 | Xinhuan | so far so good with this concept? |
| 01:09.13 | Arrowmaster | in cli terms, `git add filename` will stage the changes of that file to the index, and later you commit everything in the stage with `git commit` |
| 01:09.20 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: okay yea :) |
| 01:09.21 | Xinhuan | what this means is, you can have Changes A, B, C, D to the code in your working copy |
| 01:09.30 | Xinhuan | you can then choose to Stage change A and B |
| 01:09.33 | Xinhuan | to the staging area |
| 01:09.40 | Xinhuan | then commit this as "1 commit" |
| 01:09.45 | Xinhuan | for changes A and B |
| 01:09.49 | Xinhuan | then stage C and D |
| 01:09.53 | Xinhuan | and commit that as another commit |
| 01:10.15 | Xinhuan | you can unstage changes between the Working Copy and the Staging Copy |
| 01:10.22 | Xinhuan | now if you look at your diff |
| 01:10.28 | Xinhuan | go right click on the diff |
| 01:10.37 | Xinhuan | do you see a "cherry pick this hunk" menu option? |
| 01:10.54 | Xinhuan | that is the menu item to "stage" that particular section that changed |
| 01:11.11 | Xinhuan | when its staged, that change gets "pushed into the staging area" |
| 01:11.20 | Xinhuan | and the diff between the unstaged area/staging area changes accordingly |
| 01:11.35 | Xinhuan | if you select a file in the staging area, it shows you a diff between the Staging area and the Repo |
| 01:12.00 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: i'm not sure. for me its in german^^ is it one of the first both options? |
| 01:12.11 | Xinhuan | maybe you should install the english version?? |
| 01:12.30 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: i never decided that i want a german version :O |
| 01:12.39 | Xinhuan | the red bar is "Unstaged Changes" |
| 01:12.46 | Xinhuan | the Green bar is "Staged Changes (Will Commit)" |
| 01:12.53 | Xinhuan | the orange bar is just a diff |
| 01:12.58 | [SW]Dodge | had a english setup but now i got a german client |
| 01:13.16 | Gnarfoz | you need to set env variables |
| 01:13.16 | Xinhuan | anyway, go stage your TOC change, and make a commit |
| 01:13.23 | Gnarfoz | LANGUAGE="en" and LANG="en" |
| 01:13.28 | Gnarfoz | restart that program |
| 01:13.29 | Xinhuan | Commit is the 4th button near the bottom |
| 01:13.30 | Gnarfoz | it'll be english |
| 01:13.31 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 01:13.39 | Arrowmaster | just LANG is enough |
| 01:13.44 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: not true |
| 01:13.47 | Arrowmaster | LANGUAGE doesnt do anything |
| 01:13.52 | Repo | 10onebag3: 03Kaelten * r33 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added tag v3.0.7-beta for changeset deed09ca8df3 |
| 01:13.52 | Gnarfoz | yes, yes it does |
| 01:13.53 | Repo | small tweak to the config menu |
| 01:13.58 | Arrowmaster | no no it doesnt |
| 01:14.05 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 01:14.13 | Xinhuan | dodge, made a commit yet? |
| 01:14.44 | [SW]Dodge | Pushing to git://git.wowace.com/wow/mapster/mainline.git |
| 01:14.44 | Arrowmaster | LANG and LC_* env vars are all that effect anything |
| 01:14.44 | [SW]Dodge | Looking up git.wowace.com ... done. |
| 01:14.44 | [SW]Dodge | Connecting to git.wowace.com (port 9418) ... 69.57.184.216 done. |
| 01:14.44 | [SW]Dodge | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 01:14.52 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: tell me then, why LANG=en is not enough to make gnuwin32 apps to be english? :p |
| 01:14.53 | Arrowmaster | you cant push |
| 01:14.54 | Xinhuan | no dodge, you click COMMIT, not PUSH |
| 01:15.06 | Xinhuan | commit is the 4th button, Push is the 5th |
| 01:15.13 | [SW]Dodge | ok done |
| 01:15.14 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 01:15.20 | Xinhuan | ok go visualize the branch history |
| 01:15.23 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: i dont know, did you try using LANG=en_US instead? |
| 01:15.35 | Xinhuan | you should see that your commit is "1 commit" ahead of the "origin/master" |
| 01:15.43 | Xinhuan | got that? |
| 01:15.44 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: the part behind the equation sign was not the important part. it needs both LANG and LANGUAGE ;) |
| 01:15.55 | Arrowmaster | blame gnuwin32 then |
| 01:16.02 | [SW]Dodge | yea |
| 01:16.08 | Xinhuan | ok here's another key concept of git |
| 01:16.11 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: I'd rather blame GNU :D |
| 01:16.13 | Arrowmaster | but LANGUAGE is not a standard accepted env var for changing the language |
| 01:16.16 | Xinhuan | git uses a "distributed repository" |
| 01:16.25 | Xinhuan | what this means is, your repo, is a complete repo |
| 01:16.26 | Arrowmaster | LANGUAGE doesnt do anything at all on gnu systems afaik |
| 01:16.27 | Gnarfoz | it's confusing me, too ;) |
| 01:16.29 | Xinhuan | wowace's repo is also complete |
| 01:16.35 | Xinhuan | my copy of mapster's repo is also complete |
| 01:16.54 | Xinhuan | so when you did that commit just now, you made a "local commit" to your repo |
| 01:17.01 | Xinhuan | if you want to let other ppl see this commit |
| 01:17.16 | Arrowmaster | gnuwin32 isnt even official afaik, its also been abandoned for years hasnt it? |
| 01:17.19 | Xinhuan | then you will need to "push" your local commits to another repo somewhere else |
| 01:17.30 | Xinhuan | that is in effect "uploading your commits" to some other repo |
| 01:18.01 | Xinhuan | right now, Mapster is a private repo on wowace, so you are not allowed to push to it |
| 01:18.03 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: that'd be a shame. it would also explain lack of proper codepage support. :D |
| 01:18.10 | Xinhuan | which is why you got the "The remote end hung up unexpectedly" error |
| 01:18.11 | fewyn | hmmm are there any alternatives to topscore fu? |
| 01:18.27 | Xinhuan | if the repo was public, your commit would have actually been pushed to wowace, and a new alpha zip created |
| 01:18.34 | Xinhuan | when you clicked "push" |
| 01:18.45 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: http://ace.pastey.net/100526 ^^ |
| 01:18.48 | Arrowmaster | no it wouldnt |
| 01:18.54 | Arrowmaster | you cant push to wowace via git:// |
| 01:19.00 | Xinhuan | oh yeah true |
| 01:19.02 | Xinhuan | forgot about that |
| 01:19.11 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: aye okay :) |
| 01:19.18 | Xinhuan | to push to wowace, you have to use the development URL which is |
| 01:19.19 | Xinhuan | git@git.wowace.com:wow/mapster/mainline.gi |
| 01:19.21 | Xinhuan | git@git.wowace.com:wow/mapster/mainline.git |
| 01:19.38 | Xinhuan | now look inside your Mapster folder, do you see a ".git" folder in it? |
| 01:19.47 | [SW]Dodge | yes |
| 01:19.48 | Xinhuan | look inside the root .git folder |
| 01:19.56 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: try setting LC_ALL=de |
| 01:20.00 | Xinhuan | see the "config" file |
| 01:20.03 | Xinhuan | go open it |
| 01:20.15 | Xinhuan | you will see the URL there |
| 01:20.28 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: still english as long as LANGUAGE=en |
| 01:20.29 | [SW]Dodge | yea i see |
| 01:20.31 | Xinhuan | the "remote" "origin" is at that URL |
| 01:20.44 | Xinhuan | if you ever gained access to commit to mapster, you would replace that url with git@git.wowace.com:wow/mapster/mainline.git |
| 01:20.51 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: and it took a while to find out it wants LANGUAGE, not LANG :D and I'm happy it's now finally english ;) |
| 01:20.54 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: does not setting LANGUAGE at all still change it |
| 01:21.00 | Xinhuan | and you would need to set up a SSH authentication |
| 01:21.04 | Xinhuan | in order to push |
| 01:21.16 | Xinhuan | there's wowace knowledge base walkthroughs on that one |
| 01:21.29 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: LANG* unset, LC_ALL=en --> german :> |
| 01:21.31 | [SW]Dodge | mhm okay, i fail at setting up ssh for my svn :P |
| 01:22.05 | Xinhuan | now dodge |
| 01:22.06 | Xinhuan | http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html |
| 01:22.09 | Xinhuan | go read chapter 1 and 2 |
| 01:22.17 | Xinhuan | that's Git's user manual |
| 01:22.24 | [SW]Dodge | wowace svn always asked me for password of netrox@dodge-linux where dodge-linux is my linux pc and i was working on dodge-pc :D |
| 01:23.00 | Repo | 10nier: 03Kriery 041.0.0 * r20 : Nier - Tagging as 1.0.0. |
| 01:23.07 | Xinhuan | when you're done with reading chapters 1 and 2, you can ask questions ;p |
| 01:23.20 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: funny though, I wonder what mechanism git uses to determine locale. this is a english windows install, yet "location" set to germany. which makes the gnuwin32 stuff (correctly, actually) want to speak german |
| 01:23.25 | Gnarfoz | git however, stays english |
| 01:23.53 | Gnarfoz | oh wait |
| 01:23.57 | Gnarfoz | I set those globally. |
| 01:23.57 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 01:23.58 | Arrowmaster | the location is set to germany? but the actual windows language is english? |
| 01:24.12 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: /cry ^^ |
| 01:24.13 | Gnarfoz | it's an english windows versoin, yes |
| 01:24.15 | Gnarfoz | *version |
| 01:24.22 | Gnarfoz | it's not like you can switch that part around ;) |
| 01:24.25 | Xinhuan | you only need to read it to understand the concepts dodge |
| 01:24.29 | Arrowmaster | yes you can |
| 01:24.31 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 01:24.39 | Xinhuan | once you understand it, you'll realize everything in chapters 1/2 can be done in the GUI |
| 01:24.45 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: huh? no, not on XP |
| 01:24.52 | Gnarfoz | you'd need a MUI version for that |
| 01:25.22 | Gnarfoz | all Vista versions are MUI, though |
| 01:25.39 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 01:25.48 | Gnarfoz | ah yes. |
| 01:25.56 | Arrowmaster | do other programs end up in german because the location is set to germany? |
| 01:25.59 | Gnarfoz | with nothing set, in this setup, git gui is german by default |
| 01:26.03 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: i'll read it tomorrow, if i get the motivation :D (its 2:25am here) but thanks a lot for your "guide" until now =) |
| 01:26.06 | Xinhuan | then dodge: http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html |
| 01:26.12 | Xinhuan | that gives a crash course |
| 01:26.17 | Xinhuan | for svn -> git converts |
| 01:26.47 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: that seem broken to me |
| 01:26.51 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: surprisingly, not really that many, because really few programs are actually multi-language aware. license agreement texts for example are the only obvious thing I can think of, they'll all display in german by default |
| 01:27.08 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: huh? no, that's absolutely expected behaviour :D |
| 01:27.20 | Gnarfoz | it's like accept-language in an http request header |
| 01:27.22 | [SW]Dodge | Xinhuan: thats nice too, bookmarked both =) |
| 01:27.51 | Gnarfoz | in contrast to gnuwin32, though, git obeys LC_ALL |
| 01:28.09 | Gnarfoz | and ignores LANGUAGE ^^ |
| 01:28.21 | Gnarfoz | so it's a gnuwin32 peculiarity indeed |
| 01:28.28 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: except the description of that option is "To help services provide you with local information, such as news and weather, select your present location:" |
| 01:28.41 | Arrowmaster | what if i didnt speak german but lived in germany then |
| 01:28.58 | Gnarfoz | hm, well |
| 01:29.03 | Gnarfoz | too bad, I guess |
| 01:29.03 | Arrowmaster | seems broken to me |
| 01:29.04 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 01:29.21 | Gnarfoz | is there a LOCATION env var on *nix? |
| 01:29.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:29.56 | Gnarfoz | so the setup is broken there, too, just not with a bad description of what the setting does to boot? ;> |
| 01:30.07 | Arrowmaster | theres only the LANG stuff |
| 01:30.17 | Arrowmaster | LOCATION has no real point |
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| 01:31.05 | [SW]Dodge | good night all |
| 01:31.06 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 01:31.45 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: it has exactly the point the windows dropdown box is described with ;) |
| 01:32.11 | Arrowmaster | does anything actually use it for that purpose? |
| 01:32.56 | Gnarfoz | hard to say, because the browsers just look there, fill their own copy of "what should I send in request headers" and then web services go from *that* (or from geoip, these days) |
| 01:33.00 | Gnarfoz | so it's hard to say. ;> |
| 01:33.30 | Arrowmaster | there is no header for location |
| 01:33.39 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 01:33.50 | Arrowmaster | just accepted languages which all browsers i know of allow you to customize |
| 01:33.56 | Gnarfoz | yes, obviously |
| 01:34.03 | Gnarfoz | but the default value they fill with that setting |
| 01:34.15 | Gnarfoz | at least they used to last I checked |
| 01:34.29 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 01:34.55 | Arrowmaster | for like setting en_US, en or en_GB, en |
| 01:35.12 | Gnarfoz | i.e. install english firefox on a system set to japan will send jp as accept-language in headers (IIRC) |
| 01:36.14 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I hereby call this procrastinating and am off to do... I dunno yet! maybe sleep, I have to get up in about 4 hours :p |
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| 01:42.30 | Bruners | what is an easy way to translate an addon ? |
| 01:42.46 | Gnarfoz | a dictionary |
| 01:42.52 | Gnarfoz | ............ >_> |
| 01:44.27 | Bruners | that wont help me know what UnitCreatureType() prints out in french :P |
| 01:45.07 | quiescens | wouldn't babble probably have common things like that |
| 01:46.27 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 01:46.41 | quiescens | make other people localize it for you |
| 01:48.37 | Bruners | LibBabble-CreatureType-3.0 could do it i guess |
| 01:48.49 | Bruners | but not updated and beta |
| 01:48.58 | Xinhuan | err i hate people that create libraries with 10 lines of translatiosn in it |
| 01:49.28 | Xinhuan | or even worse, babble-gas, just FOUR lines of translations in it |
| 01:49.50 | Xinhuan | for gods sakes, just translate yourself in your addon lol |
| 01:49.58 | Xinhuan | and skip the library overhead |
| 01:50.22 | Bruners | now i found a source for the name atleast! |
| 01:51.56 | Bruners | hmm, why is koKR just squares |
| 01:52.25 | quiescens | Your computer isn't set up to display that character set? |
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| 01:52.39 | Gnarfoz | that. |
| 01:52.44 | Bruners | shouldnt utf-8 do it? |
| 01:52.56 | Xinhuan | not all fonts can display it |
| 01:53.05 | Xinhuan | try a korean font in your editor |
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| 01:53.19 | Bruners | ruRU and zhCN/TW is correct |
| 01:53.38 | Xinhuan | doesn't make the font issue any less correct |
| 01:53.50 | Gnarfoz | Consolas ftw |
| 01:53.56 | Gnarfoz | awesome font :) |
| 01:54.02 | Arrowmaster | consolas is fail |
| 01:55.25 | Gnarfoz | so is your mom |
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| 01:57.44 | NimbleRabit | So is it possible to get addons without internal libraries anymore? |
| 01:57.54 | Xinhuan | you can |
| 01:57.59 | Xinhuan | download the -nolib versions |
| 01:58.12 | Xinhuan | but you are responsible for getting the required libs yourself if you do that ;p |
| 01:58.21 | NimbleRabit | I don't mind |
| 01:58.27 | NimbleRabit | not seeing -nolib |
| 01:58.28 | Arrowmaster | you always have been if you get nolib versions |
| 01:58.48 | Bruners | Xinhuan: then, how do i test if it works? :P |
| 01:58.57 | Xinhuan | you don't |
| 01:59.04 | Xinhuan | translators do it |
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| 02:00.16 | NimbleRabit | Xinhuan, I don't see -nolib versions on curse. I'm missing something? |
| 02:00.28 | Xinhuan | nolib versions can only be seen on wowace |
| 02:00.33 | Bruners | off topic, is this a curse client error or something wrong with the addon upload? http://img.ipwn.se/amintherror.jpg |
| 02:01.02 | Bruners | Xinhuan: uhm, alot of addons on curse also got no-libs |
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| 02:01.27 | RaydenUni | so BT4 now longer has a quick way of turning on/off a single bar? |
| 02:01.30 | Arrowmaster | Bruners: something wrong with the zip |
| 02:01.53 | Xinhuan | nolib versions only get packaged if there is a "no-lib-strip" clause somewhere in a XML or TOC file |
| 02:01.59 | Xinhuan | i think? |
| 02:02.05 | Xinhuan | not sure on that one |
| 02:02.15 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:02.17 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 02:02.32 | Arrowmaster | unless it changed |
| 02:02.38 | NimbleRabit | I'm lost, I thought you couldn't get files from wowace anymore |
| 02:02.40 | Bruners | Xinhuan: seems like its changed or something |
| 02:02.44 | NimbleRabit | so I'm not really following |
| 02:02.48 | RaydenUni | i used to be able to just click on a bar, now i have to go find it in the menu |
| 02:02.54 | RaydenUni | to toggle a BT4 bar |
| 02:03.06 | Bruners | Xinhuan: as in cant see any no-lib addons anymore |
| 02:03.29 | Xinhuan | no idea heh |
| 02:04.25 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r12 / (4 files in 1 directory): some code cleanup |
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| 02:07.56 | Neffi | Can anyone recommend a good free IRC client? |
| 02:08.03 | Neffi | (XP) |
| 02:09.29 | Bruners | irssi |
| 02:09.31 | Bruners | :P |
| 02:09.40 | Zhinjio | Aeyan: ping |
| 02:09.51 | Zhinjio | Neffi: irssi |
| 02:10.13 | Bruners | mirc is freeish, chatzilla |
| 02:10.32 | Neffi | I was experimenting with Chrome. ChatZilla wouldn't work too well. >> |
| 02:10.56 | Neffi | I probably won't stick with Chrome though. It needs plenty of polishing before it's as useful as FF. :( |
| 02:11.00 | Neffi | (No pun intendeD) |
| 02:11.01 | RaydenUni | i like chrome |
| 02:11.06 | Bruners | http://www.ircreviews.org/clients/platforms-windows.html |
| 02:11.10 | RaydenUni | it's just a little buggy and slow on my laptop |
| 02:11.14 | RaydenUni | i use it on my desktop though |
| 02:11.31 | RaydenUni | and weird thing, on the university lab computers it randomly crashes after 5-10 min of use |
| 02:11.33 | RaydenUni | just disappears |
| 02:11.39 | Neffi | I love parts of it. The lack of solid configuration, inability to really tweak the UI, and lack of any addon support ATM makes it useless to me. |
| 02:11.48 | Xinhuan | Neffi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IRC_clients |
| 02:11.49 | Neffi | I mean, its config is pretty nonexistent. |
| 02:11.56 | RaydenUni | you tweak your browser ui? |
| 02:12.02 | RaydenUni | i don't really config much in my browser |
| 02:12.03 | Neffi | Hell yeah |
| 02:12.25 | Neffi | I'm really anal about things working perfectly. And a lot of things about Chrome still bug me. |
| 02:12.51 | Bruners | Neffi: be a man, pay for mIRC or crack it |
| 02:12.54 | RaydenUni | it starts up so fast compared to firefox |
| 02:13.04 | RaydenUni | Neffi i use X-Chat2 |
| 02:13.11 | Neffi | I love how it handles tabs |
| 02:13.15 | Neffi | And the multi-process design |
| 02:13.17 | Xinhuan | that's cos firefox checks for updates, and plugin updates |
| 02:13.18 | Bruners | i never close firefox so dont really care for startup times |
| 02:13.30 | Xinhuan | i think? |
| 02:13.32 | RaydenUni | yes, the movable tabs and multi process is beautiful |
| 02:13.46 | Neffi | Once I can install addons cleanly like with Firefox -- and an AdBlock and GreaseMonkey addon comes out -- I'll make the switch. It definitely shows solid potential. |
| 02:13.49 | RaydenUni | i like how i can kill flash and reboot it without having to restart my whole browser |
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| 02:14.19 | Xinhuan | rebooting firefox isn't difficult though |
| 02:14.27 | Xinhuan | since it can "restore previous sessions" |
| 02:15.10 | Neffi | Do the developers actually plan to implement some sort of addon engine? |
| 02:15.13 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 02:15.20 | RaydenUni | that's how i save my tabs if i have more than one window |
| 02:15.25 | RaydenUni | "kill process, recover" |
| 02:15.36 | Neffi | lol |
| 02:16.09 | Bruners | RaydenUni: or just set "Show my windows and tabs from last time" ? |
| 02:16.17 | RaydenUni | it only does one window |
| 02:17.20 | Bruners | the only thing i miss in firefox is the abiltiy to drag tabs out and get a new window |
| 02:17.58 | Neffi | I love how Chrome renders the tab that I'm dragging on the cursor |
| 02:18.28 | Bruners | last time i tested chrome it used more memory then firefox with the ammount of tabs i ahve |
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| 02:18.42 | RaydenUni | but |
| 02:18.49 | Neffi | woops back |
| 02:18.50 | RaydenUni | if you have a memory leak it tells you which one is the culprit |
| 02:19.00 | RaydenUni | and i have 4gb, so overall if it uses a little more mb who cares? |
| 02:19.02 | Neffi | That's why ChatZilla sucks. Restarting FF after a new addon is installed kills my IRC. |
| 02:19.16 | RaydenUni | yeah i couldn't stand using a firefox irc client |
| 02:19.20 | RaydenUni | try x-chat |
| 02:19.24 | quiescens | you can't just directly compare memory usage |
| 02:19.42 | quiescens | without taking in to account how much of that memory is being used as various types of caching |
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| 02:21.06 | Arrowmaster | chatzilla is written in javascript, thats why it sucks |
| 02:22.51 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 02:23.01 | Bruners | get a muh/bnc and use chattzilla |
| 02:23.01 | Neffi | It is? |
| 02:23.03 | Neffi | Heh |
| 02:23.08 | Xinhuan | blues posted the problem with "A simple Re-quest" achievement is it resets when zoning into a Battleground |
| 02:23.28 | Bruners | Xinhuan: so it is bugged? i knew it! |
| 02:23.42 | Xinhuan | so to complete it, you have to avoid Bgs for 5 days |
| 02:23.56 | Bruners | have tried doing that for some time now |
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| 02:27.59 | Zhinjio | Torhal: thanks again for yr help last night |
| 02:28.10 | Torhal | Not a problem :) |
| 02:32.03 | Bruners | looks like blacksmithing will be quite good for non plate users aswell with the sockets |
| 02:39.21 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1720 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fixed the mining page, two of the spellIDs were wrong. |
| 02:41.29 | fewyn | So anyone know of any alternatives to topscore fu? |
| 02:42.07 | Torhal | fewyn, Zhinjio is working on an LDB one now. |
| 02:42.42 | Zhinjio | yeah, its already mostly working |
| 02:42.50 | Zhinjio | fewyn: Broker_HitCrit |
| 02:43.07 | Gnarfoz | I wish someone would fix TopScoreFu, too |
| 02:43.13 | sacarasc | same |
| 02:43.13 | Zhinjio | its already gathering data correctly, and displaying it nicely |
| 02:43.17 | Lukian | TopScoreFu is working? |
| 02:43.18 | Arrowmaster | i thought it worked |
| 02:43.27 | Lukian | works for me.. |
| 02:43.27 | fewyn | it was working |
| 02:43.29 | Gnarfoz | it is, except for the stupid bug. |
| 02:43.31 | Zhinjio | doesn't work for me, thats why I'm writing hitcrit |
| 02:43.35 | Arrowmaster | what bug |
| 02:43.38 | Lukian | there's another addon |
| 02:43.39 | fewyn | it's erroring out still and doesn't show both normal and crits |
| 02:43.46 | Zhinjio | well topscore -> fubar2broker |
| 02:43.53 | Gnarfoz | it sometimes complains that 't' is nil |
| 02:43.53 | fewyn | [2008/11/02 18:56:36-29-x1]: FuBar_TopScoreFu-2.0\TopScoreFu.lua:30: table index is nil |
| 02:43.53 | fewyn | --- |
| 02:44.01 | Gnarfoz | or |
| 02:44.07 | Gnarfoz | t pvp |
| 02:44.11 | Gnarfoz | I don't recall anymore |
| 02:44.11 | fewyn | plus it's not even coming up on my bars |
| 02:44.27 | Gnarfoz | and it's filtering has been broken for ages ;P |
| 02:44.36 | Zhinjio | bah, kgpanels needs a number color thinger |
| 02:44.42 | Zhinjio | the picker is not accurate enough, apparently |
| 02:44.47 | Gnarfoz | the picker sucks |
| 02:44.50 | Gnarfoz | but then, kgpanels sucks |
| 02:44.51 | Zhinjio | srsly |
| 02:44.58 | Zhinjio | what are you using instead? |
| 02:45.03 | Gnarfoz | eePanels1 |
| 02:45.03 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 02:45.06 | Zhinjio | blah |
| 02:45.07 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 02:45.11 | Arrowmaster | fewyn: comment out line 30 then and see if it works |
| 02:45.27 | Gnarfoz | I don't see what I'd need eePanels2 or even kgPanels for :D |
| 02:45.41 | Gnarfoz | it's probably good that someone's rewriting an addon like TopScoreFu from scratch. B2F will give it to me, anyway ;) |
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| 02:46.00 | Arrowmaster | i was planning to rewrite it too but im really busy |
| 02:46.20 | Zhinjio | well, give hitcrit a try, and leave comments or tickets for stuff you feel is missing. |
| 02:46.27 | Zhinjio | it was pertty easy |
| 02:46.29 | Zhinjio | pretty |
| 02:46.35 | Arrowmaster | it probably doesnt do what i was planning to do |
| 02:46.53 | Zhinjio | probably not. I have installed my psychic mod yet |
| 02:47.06 | Zhinjio | but I'm certainly open to suggestions |
| 02:47.11 | fewyn | tries it |
| 02:47.33 | Arrowmaster | my idea was about how to store the data |
| 02:47.46 | Arrowmaster | if you didnt do it then you would probably need a major rewrite to do it |
| 02:47.48 | Zhinjio | stuff I'm still missing is grouping by school instead of just dmg/heal |
| 02:47.59 | Lukian | "Hardest Hits" |
| 02:48.10 | Lukian | was the other one |
| 02:48.19 | Arrowmaster | i saw that one before |
| 02:48.29 | Arrowmaster | looked ok but deffently from a beginner coder |
| 02:48.38 | Lukian | so we have TopScore, CritLine, Hardest Hits and HitCrit |
| 02:48.44 | Lukian | take your pick :p |
| 02:48.58 | Zhinjio | I'm currently storing, ... uh hit/crit/mob/dmg(vs heal)/spellid/spellname |
| 02:49.05 | Zhinjio | indexed by spellid |
| 02:49.10 | Arrowmaster | oh... |
| 02:49.11 | Arrowmaster | fail |
| 02:49.13 | Lukian | there's also CritSpit and TMMC |
| 02:49.25 | Arrowmaster | you have to store heal and damage seperately or you fail like topscorefu did |
| 02:49.35 | Lukian | so yeah, you are pretty spoiled for choice in damage recording addons ;) |
| 02:50.00 | fewyn | seems to have worked Arrowmaster |
| 02:50.03 | Zhinjio | why is that fail? Because I loop through one extra time on each display? |
| 02:50.07 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:50.13 | Arrowmaster | because there are spells that do damage and healing |
| 02:50.20 | magma | holy nova |
| 02:50.24 | Codayus | Penance |
| 02:50.25 | Lukian | holy shock |
| 02:50.26 | Zhinjio | mmm, true dat |
| 02:50.29 | Arrowmaster | deathcoil |
| 02:50.32 | Arrowmaster | siphon life |
| 02:50.34 | Arrowmaster | drain life |
| 02:50.35 | Zhinjio | thats easy enough to fix |
| 02:50.47 | Zhinjio | good point |
| 02:51.28 | fewyn | my new issue with topscore is it thinks my crits are also normal hits :( |
| 02:51.41 | Xinhuan | cos all crits are also hits |
| 02:51.49 | Arrowmaster | and in topscorefu it only checked the vulrnable mob stuff on damage, so when i used drainlife on netherspite for example, since the heal comes after the damage in the combatlog it would only recore the heals and ignore that it was on netherspite |
| 02:51.54 | Xinhuan | there's a new flag in the combat log that says if its a crit or not |
| 02:52.12 | Zhinjio | yup. thats what I look for |
| 02:52.28 | Xinhuan | that flag will be one of Miss, hit, dodge,parry, crushing, crit, resist i think |
| 02:52.30 | Arrowmaster | did the arg order change or something again? |
| 02:52.34 | Xinhuan | nah |
| 02:52.39 | Xinhuan | was just a 2.4 thing |
| 02:52.43 | Arrowmaster | then how is my hack in topscorefu broken? |
| 02:52.54 | Xinhuan | there is a new one i think |
| 02:52.59 | Xinhuan | that says whether its overkill |
| 02:53.02 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r291 modules (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:53.02 | Repo | - fixed a bug with PlayerMana disabling OnUpdate code for warriors and DK's when their bar was full instead of when it is empty |
| 02:53.03 | Repo | - fixed a bug with DK runes appearing to be available as soon as a fight was done instead of when they actually became available again |
| 02:53.06 | Xinhuan | could have affected things |
| 02:53.13 | Zhinjio | amount, overkill, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical (1 or nil), glancing (1 or nil), crushing (1 or nil) |
| 02:53.20 | Zhinjio | thats the arg order currently |
| 02:53.22 | Arrowmaster | that could do it |
| 02:53.28 | Xinhuan | there, so an extra arg in there |
| 02:53.35 | Zhinjio | overkill |
| 02:53.41 | Zhinjio | is new to 3.0 |
| 02:54.02 | Zhinjio | overkill will be 0 unless its a killing blow, obv |
| 02:55.16 | Arrowmaster | whats the args for healing now? |
| 02:55.36 | Xinhuan | it didn't change for healing i think |
| 02:55.44 | Arrowmaster | theres overheal now |
| 02:55.53 | Xinhuan | there always have been overheal since 2.4 though |
| 02:55.58 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:56.01 | Xinhuan | no? |
| 02:56.04 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 02:56.09 | Arrowmaster | overheal is new in 3.0 |
| 02:56.53 | Xinhuan | [11/3 10:53:28] <Zhinjio> amount, overkill, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical (1 or nil), glancing (1 or nil), crushing (1 or nil), overhealing |
| 02:57.00 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio missed that one after crushing |
| 02:57.21 | Zhinjio | um |
| 02:57.26 | Zhinjio | overhealing isn't an arg on that |
| 02:57.32 | Arrowmaster | overkill and overheal cant possible be in the same one |
| 02:57.38 | Zhinjio | _DAMAGEamount, overkill, school, resisted, blocked, absorbed, critical (1 or nil), glancing (1 or nil), crushing (1 or nil) |
| 02:57.41 | Zhinjio | _HEALamount, overhealing, critical |
| 02:57.44 | Zhinjio | to be more specific |
| 02:57.55 | Zhinjio | for the suffixes |
| 02:58.00 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 02:58.21 | Xinhuan | ok so the overhealing is the same arg as the overkilling one |
| 02:58.31 | Zhinjio | heh, yes and no. *grin* |
| 02:58.43 | Zhinjio | the problem is that for SPELL_ prefixes, there are three extra arguments |
| 02:58.54 | Xinhuan | elseif ( event == "SPELL_HEAL" or event == "SPELL_BUILDING_HEAL") then |
| 02:58.54 | Xinhuan | amount, overhealing, critical = select(4, ...); |
| 02:58.55 | Zhinjio | spellID, spellName, spellschool |
| 02:59.27 | Zhinjio | I don't think there is a SWING_HEAL effect |
| 02:59.33 | Zhinjio | tries to think of something like that |
| 02:59.39 | Zhinjio | can't think of anything |
| 02:59.44 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): some code cleanup |
| 02:59.46 | Zhinjio | I coded for it, but I don't think that code will ever excecute |
| 03:00.06 | Xinhuan | SWING_HEAL doesn't even exist in blizzard's combat log ;p |
| 03:00.17 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 03:00.23 | Zhinjio | like I said, I don't think that will ever execute |
| 03:00.41 | Xinhuan | u think patch 3.0.3 is tomorrow? |
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| 03:00.57 | Torhal | That would be shitty. "I just bashed the boss back to health with my mace." |
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| 03:01.25 | Zhinjio | well... I was thinking some effect or talent that heals you for a percentage of physical dmg |
| 03:01.32 | Torhal | Ah |
| 03:01.54 | Zhinjio | so, I left the code in for it *grin* |
| 03:01.55 | pakoz9 | looking for an income mod of some sort - something that tells me how much money im making per hour - what I'm making it from etc. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 03:02.02 | Zhinjio | who knows what havoc blizz may put in |
| 03:02.09 | Zhinjio | *cough*for pallies*cough* |
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| 03:02.16 | Zhinjio | pakoz9: auditor |
| 03:02.31 | HunterZ0 | yeah auditor is nice |
| 03:02.33 | pakoz9 | AuditorFu ? |
| 03:02.37 | HunterZ0 | yep |
| 03:02.53 | HunterZ0 | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5429-FuBar-AuditorFu.html |
| 03:02.54 | Zhinjio | income is largely quest,but it'll show auctions, mail, vendors, etc. |
| 03:03.02 | pakoz9 | should i use curse? latest version is from 5/16/08 |
| 03:04.00 | Aeyan | chrono |
| 03:04.08 | Zhinjio | Aeyan: !! |
| 03:04.12 | pakoz9 | is that an income mod? |
| 03:04.15 | Zhinjio | Aeyan: question for you. |
| 03:04.20 | Aeyan | Sup |
| 03:04.36 | Zhinjio | Aeyan: I'm trying to get my borders around bars and such to be a bit more distinct. what panel mod are you using? |
| 03:04.43 | Aeyan | kgPanels |
| 03:04.44 | Zhinjio | rothsquare borders are not cutting it |
| 03:04.53 | Aeyan | Ah, the border? |
| 03:04.59 | Zhinjio | I'm now trying to not use border, but just make the background color |
| 03:05.10 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 03:05.21 | Zhinjio | is that what you did? |
| 03:05.29 | Aeyan | I'm using a border called Roth3 |
| 03:05.39 | Zhinjio | where's that coming from? |
| 03:05.40 | Aeyan | Been looking for a better border, honestly |
| 03:05.42 | Aeyan | Hard to find |
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| 03:06.06 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 03:06.16 | Zhinjio | is roth3 part of medialib or somethign? |
| 03:06.34 | Zhinjio | sharedmedia, I mean |
| 03:06.37 | Zhinjio | cuz I think I have that |
| 03:06.43 | Repo | 10fubar_topscorefu: 03Arrowmaster 07master * v1.0.1 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Fix for 3.0 combatlog changes |
| 03:06.43 | Aeyan | I think I pulled it out of a Roth UI build |
| 03:06.44 | Repo | 10fubar_topscorefu: 03Arrowmaster 04v1.0.1 * 56cb965 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as v1.0.1. |
| 03:06.56 | Aeyan | Just looked in the one on WoWI though, didn't see it |
| 03:07.13 | pakoz9 | zhinjio; exactly the mod i wanted, thanks. |
| 03:07.23 | Zhinjio | np |
| 03:07.27 | Antiarc | So we're doing Felmyst |
| 03:07.30 | Antiarc | And a priest gets MCd |
| 03:07.42 | Antiarc | And our MT gets MCd somehow despite being way out of the fog |
| 03:07.42 | Zhinjio | ok. I'll keep trying my current idea and see if I get sick of it |
| 03:07.45 | Antiarc | And after rezzing |
| 03:07.51 | Antiarc | The MT can't use anything in her inventory |
| 03:08.05 | Parnic | anybody have an 80 DK on the beta realms that i can use to test something in my addon? :) |
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| 03:08.21 | Arrowmaster | the priest MCd the MT? |
| 03:09.04 | Antiarc | Somehow |
| 03:09.57 | smallbrain | I thought MC was not available when MC'd by AI |
| 03:10.01 | smallbrain | huh wtf |
| 03:10.07 | Gnarfoz | what happened there |
| 03:11.08 | linear` | whats the easiest way to range check on a unit |
| 03:11.27 | Aeyan | Zhinjio: If you want the border later, I can upload it somewhere. |
| 03:11.42 | Torhal | linear`, look at BigWigs Gruul module, mayhap. |
| 03:12.06 | Torhal | Just off the top of my head. heh |
| 03:12.46 | Torhal | linear`, NVM that: Try RangeDisplay |
| 03:12.55 | linear` | i found it its just a function UnitInRange |
| 03:13.22 | Zhinjio | nah, thats ok. thanks though |
| 03:14.40 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r292 modules/Runes.lua: |
| 03:14.41 | Repo | - added some sanity checking to the runes module so that we don't try to create a rune that doesn't exist...this shouldn't ever catch anything, but arenas seem to cause issues so who knows |
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| 03:22.25 | Zhinjio | what're y'all using for xpbar mod? I'm not happy with dominos one or xpbarnone |
| 03:22.39 | Zhinjio | and I don't want it in my unit frame |
| 03:26.19 | doom0r | experiencefu |
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| 03:27.13 | Zhinjio | thats the one that turns the whole bar into the xp meter, right? |
| 03:27.13 | doom0r | and i take the one from DUF and stretch it to the width of the screen, set the height equal to one fubar panel height, and put it behind the plugins/on top fo the background of the top most panel |
| 03:27.30 | doom0r | experiencefu is just a simple text fubar plugin |
| 03:27.53 | Zhinjio | oh, ok |
| 03:28.07 | Zhinjio | yeah, I've used that. |
| 03:32.09 | Torhal | Zhinjio, try eXPeritia: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10760-eXPeritia.html |
| 03:32.13 | Bruners | http://pastey.net/100534 could this be one of the addons or is it blizzard shit ? |
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| 03:37.31 | Zhinjio | interesting one |
| 03:37.41 | Zhinjio | I may give that a try |
| 03:38.10 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r89 / (4 files in 2 directories): Baldrick: |
| 03:38.11 | Repo | - Localizations for button scaling |
| 03:38.34 | Repo | - Fix for getting an item and button not updating |
| 03:38.34 | Hjalte | Does anyone have the butterfly and flower textures from CrowUI lying around? |
| 03:42.18 | Torhal | Meh. I hope I get the gumption on my next day off to switch nanoTalk to Ace3-Config as the beginning of my robustification plans. |
| 03:43.00 | Repo | 10hot-streak: 03yheen * r3 sounds/: Created folder remotely |
| 03:43.36 | Repo | 10hot-streak: 03yheen * r4 sounds/hotstreak.mp3: Added a file remotely |
| 03:45.48 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 03:45.51 | Stanzilla | Lady sylvanas down |
| 03:46.52 | Xinhuan | tried that yesterday, with 80 alliance |
| 03:47.02 | Xinhuan | then 80 horde turned up and the place lagged to near-server crash |
| 03:47.38 | Stanzilla | heh yeah same |
| 03:47.41 | Stanzilla | we failed with 120 people |
| 03:47.46 | Stanzilla | but it's 5 am |
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| 03:48.59 | Xinhuan | we did it at 5am too |
| 03:49.07 | Xinhuan | but 5am server time is server prime time/peak hour lol |
| 03:49.19 | Stanzilla | hehe |
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| 03:55.01 | Zhinjio | Aeyan: your chat tabs seem to be further above the chat window than mine |
| 03:55.09 | Zhinjio | how did you do that? |
| 03:55.23 | Aeyan | I didn't do anything special |
| 03:55.51 | Aeyan | Now, I might have sized the chat window up some to make it centered in the panel |
| 03:55.59 | Zhinjio | nm. |
| 03:56.04 | Aeyan | There's blank space until there's enough room for another line |
| 03:56.05 | Zhinjio | chatter lets me change the height |
| 03:57.15 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r2 / (10 files in 3 directories): |
| 03:57.16 | Repo | Initial import of Magic Runes (DK rune cooldown display addon) |
| 03:58.47 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed embeds.xml, rmeoved accidental file. |
| 03:58.58 | NeoTron | very early version... |
| 03:59.01 | NeoTron | but it works |
| 04:01.32 | Xinhuan | NeoTron, why is your irc nick different from your wowace account ;p |
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| 04:01.59 | Torhal | Xinhuan, he probably wasn't name-merged like a lot of people. |
| 04:02.46 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: because "neotron" is some random person that's not me |
| 04:03.20 | NeoTron | http://static.wowace.com/uploads/19/10/956/runes.png |
| 04:03.27 | NeoTron | @project magicrunes |
| 04:03.28 | Repo | NeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magicrunes/. Magic Runes. Game: WoW. Leader: dhedbor. Updated: 4 minutes ago |
| 04:03.34 | NeoTron | @poke someone to approve :P |
| 04:03.41 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 04:04.07 | Xinhuan | it looks approved? |
| 04:04.40 | Antiarc | NeoTron: LibBars or custom? |
| 04:04.41 | Stanzilla | thrall 50% |
| 04:05.20 | NeoTron | LibBars |
| 04:05.45 | NeoTron | heh it wasn't approved when I did the import :P |
| 04:06.55 | Xinhuan | that's interestin NeoTron |
| 04:07.02 | Xinhuan | according to the logs, nobody approved it |
| 04:07.19 | NeoTron | curious |
| 04:07.23 | Torhal | HAX! |
| 04:07.26 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:08.04 | NeoTron | all I did was to select repository type to be SVN and then the import |
| 04:08.18 | Xinhuan | yes, sounds like an oversight |
| 04:09.23 | Xinhuan | ckknight |
| 04:09.56 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:10.02 | Xinhuan | read last 10 lines or so |
| 04:10.20 | Xinhuan | NeoTron created a project, changed project type from None to SVN, and that seemed to auto approve the project |
| 04:10.50 | Stanzilla | thrall down |
| 04:10.59 | Antiarc | I like auto-approved projects >_> |
| 04:11.02 | Antiarc | They make my life easy |
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| 04:11.09 | ckknight | that makes little sense... |
| 04:11.15 | Xinhuan | i think that's probably a bug somewhere? |
| 04:11.20 | ckknight | very likely |
| 04:11.24 | ckknight | not sure where, though |
| 04:11.39 | ckknight | hrm |
| 04:11.42 | ckknight | I have an idea, though |
| 04:12.14 | Xinhuan | when did you create the project NeoTron? |
| 04:13.27 | ckknight | yea, I believe I found the bug |
| 04:15.08 | Antiarc | http://www.cleavelin.net/archives001/killer.jpg |
| 04:16.33 | ckknight | lol, cool, ANTRat |
| 04:16.35 | ckknight | err |
| 04:16.36 | ckknight | Antiarc |
| 04:17.03 | Antiarc | Spy sappin' mah autocomplete! |
| 04:18.49 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03Zidomo * r94 / (12 files in 1 directory): |
| 04:18.50 | Repo | SmartRes: -Roll back to r87. New authors: lrn2test, then commit after finding out if it works or not |
| 04:18.51 | Repo | -Fix r87's .pkgmeta |
| 04:19.31 | NeoTron | I created it earlier today, not quite sure when |
| 04:19.56 | KriLL3 | anyone have a link for the windows 7 beta? I'd like to try it (not on my main ofc) |
| 04:21.52 | Torhal | Wow. Is he supposed to be able to do that? |
| 04:22.19 | Torhal | smart-res: Zidomo * r94 / (12 files in 1 directory): -Roll back to r87. New authors: lrn2test, then commit after finding out if it works or not |
| 04:22.22 | Torhal | Hah |
| 04:22.28 | Xuerian | Antiarc: rofl |
| 04:25.28 | Torhal | Antiarc, I;m awaiting a link from you with a Santa version. |
| 04:28.51 | Zhinjio | Aeyan: do you enable chattabs module on chatter? |
| 04:29.00 | Zhinjio | cuz chattabs and fane are not playing nice together atm for me |
| 04:29.04 | Aeyan | No, I don't |
| 04:29.09 | Aeyan | Just use Fane |
| 04:29.29 | doom0r | sanity delete char fails |
| 04:29.40 | Aeyan | I didn't know Chatter could do the same thing though |
| 04:29.41 | Zhinjio | trying that now |
| 04:29.45 | Zhinjio | it can't |
| 04:29.49 | Aeyan | Ah |
| 04:30.04 | Aeyan | Hehe, I just disabled tabs because I already had fane |
| 04:30.08 | Zhinjio | all it can do is change the tab height, and hide the tabs completely |
| 04:30.15 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03Zidomo * r95 : SmartRes: SVN properties fix |
| 04:30.23 | Zhinjio | ok, thats working |
| 04:32.18 | Zhinjio | I think the only thing I wish it would do is sort of blink or something the tabs that had activity you hadn't seen yet |
| 04:32.36 | Zhinjio | maybe turn them a different color or something |
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| 04:34.39 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): adding bosses for start of auto snapshot system |
| 04:34.47 | Zhinjio | oh! It does! |
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| 04:34.49 | Zhinjio | how nice! |
| 04:35.23 | Neffi | ckknight: In PitBull, frames are created until the unit is first seen, right? So if I never set a focus, I can't fetch a frame for it with IterateUnitFramesForUnit? |
| 04:35.30 | Neffi | aren't( |
| 04:35.47 | ckknight | right, and it's recycled, so the frame might not exist after a time |
| 04:36.03 | Neffi | The parent frame is recycled? |
| 04:36.24 | ckknight | yes |
| 04:36.42 | agronqui | hmmmm, newb question: when I iterate through regular arrays with ipairs, I can remove table entries using tremove(table, idx), but idx has to be numerical. How can I remove an entry from an associative array traversed using pairs? (where idx is a string...) |
| 04:37.51 | agronqui | without iterating over the ipairs list of course :) |
| 04:38.14 | Neffi | Would you happen to remember exactly when a player frame should exist? Is it created on, before or after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? |
| 04:39.20 | Xinhuan | agronqui: t[idx] = nil |
| 04:39.33 | agronqui | ah, thanks, good point :) |
| 04:39.47 | Xinhuan | u can only remove entries that you have already iterated over |
| 04:39.54 | Torhal | Meh. Latahs. |
| 04:39.57 | Xinhuan | otherwise you get undefined pairs() behavior |
| 04:40.22 | Stanzilla | woah |
| 04:40.24 | Stanzilla | cairne is hardcore |
| 04:40.36 | agronqui | yeah, I'm inside the for.. pairs loop at that point, thanks Xin |
| 04:40.37 | Xinhuan | ya cairne is near impossible |
| 04:40.44 | Xinhuan | because of the aggro wipe on warstomp |
| 04:40.48 | Xinhuan | u need multiple tanks |
| 04:40.55 | Xinhuan | and they will usually miss |
| 04:41.00 | Xinhuan | so some dps gets aggro instead |
| 04:41.06 | Xinhuan | instead of your OT |
| 04:41.48 | Xinhuan | you can easily see the aggro wipe using omen ;p |
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| 04:49.02 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 04:49.06 | Stanzilla | we just wiped at 40% |
| 04:49.18 | Stanzilla | because people added and some horde woke up |
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| 04:54.44 | Xinhuan | not possible not to add though, cos the bgmasters respawn is |
| 04:54.46 | Xinhuan | 5 min |
| 04:55.03 | Xinhuan | hmm i mean the trainers i think |
| 04:56.07 | Bruners | good thing i make backups |
| 04:56.56 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: yeah but if you get feared out or run out you add more guards |
| 04:58.19 | RaydenUni | man |
| 04:58.23 | RaydenUni | we had trouble with halazzi |
| 04:58.40 | RaydenUni | the other tank was a little under-geared though |
| 04:58.43 | RaydenUni | he kept dying |
| 04:59.26 | RaydenUni | however we did the first 2 first try |
| 04:59.45 | Ackis | so I got fallout 3... it gave me a live access key... isn't that an xbox thing? |
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| 05:00.37 | RaydenUni | there is also windows live |
| 05:01.01 | Ackis | oh? |
| 05:01.27 | Xinhuan | does harmful haste effects (that increases your casting time) increase your GCD? |
| 05:01.43 | Xinhuan | since haste effects reduces GCD |
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| 05:04.43 | Repo | 10gathermate_cartimport: 03next96 * r46 GatherMate_CartImport.lua: GatherMate_CartImport: |
| 05:04.44 | Repo | - Add locale koKR |
| 05:05.09 | Repo | 10gathermate_sharing: 03next96 * r70 Locales/GatherMate_Sharing-koKR.lua: GatherMate_Sharing: |
| 05:05.10 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:05.26 | NeoTron | mysterious. if I do /chatlist on a channel WoW crashes :P |
| 05:05.39 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03next96 * r586 Locales/GatherMate-koKR.lua: GatherMate : |
| 05:05.40 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
| 05:06.58 | Ackis | so eb games fucked up with my red alert 3 pre-order, ended up cancelling it today =/ |
| 05:07.11 | Ackis | I have a couple bonus maps for it if anyone wants |
| 05:08.51 | Zyndrome | Xinhuan, GCD should not get affected |
| 05:09.43 | Zyndrome | speaking of RA3 |
| 05:09.44 | Zyndrome | http://www.conquerthislife.com/ |
| 05:10.48 | Neffi | Fuckin |
| 05:10.52 | Ackis | no I'm grumpy :( I didn't get my warhammer code for ra3 :( |
| 05:11.11 | Neffi | Seems like the only reliable way to get a cast bar to work flawlessly 100% of the time is to just update it every screen frame and scrap events |
| 05:11.16 | Neffi | :( |
| 05:11.16 | Hell-Razor | anybody else notice auctioneer got a hell of a lot slower scanning ? |
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| 05:12.07 | Neffi | Xinhuan: You can't slow the GCD. You can only speed it up with haste. |
| 05:12.19 | HateMonkey | actually you can slow the gcd |
| 05:12.28 | HateMonkey | just not through player abilities |
| 05:12.35 | HateMonkey | look at the old scool green dragons |
| 05:12.52 | Neffi | Xinhuan: I'd imagine that if something was directly influencing your haste STAT, which had already reduced the GCD, that it would cause it to be reduced by less. But you need to special mechanic to check for it then. |
| 05:13.09 | Neffi | HateMonkey: Not relevant though |
| 05:13.14 | HateMonkey | i know |
| 05:13.27 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r19 Track-o-Matique.lua: |
| 05:13.28 | Repo | * Proper support for restoring tracking to non-hunter options (e.g. gathering, |
| 05:13.29 | Repo | trainers, etc). If the initial tracking option is "none", tracking will not |
| 05:13.30 | Repo | be restored to "none" on exiting combat. |
| 05:13.34 | Repo | * Improved debugging output. |
| 05:13.37 | Neffi | Xinhuan: But you DON'T need a special mechanic to check for that*** |
| 05:13.39 | Xuerian | Zyndrome: The RA3 ad campaign amuses me. Half because it's so over-done, half because I'm curious if it'll actually deliver. |
| 05:14.17 | HateMonkey | Ok, so can anyone answer me this: Where do I have to point TortoiseSVN at now to still use it for my addons? |
| 05:14.46 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 041.7beta2 * r20 : Tagging as 1.7beta2. |
| 05:27.27 | HateMonkey | is my question to complex or what? |
| 05:27.52 | Xuerian | Lethargy |
| 05:27.55 | Xuerian | It is a powerful thing |
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| 05:32.55 | Stanzilla | HAHAHAHA |
| 05:33.04 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: CAIRNE down |
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| 05:33.47 | Xinhuan | lucky biathc! |
| 05:34.16 | Xuerian | Wow, you downed TB? |
| 05:34.19 | Xuerian | Let me congratulate you. |
| 05:34.29 | Xuerian | I mean, it's awesome, and a honor to be in your presence. |
| 05:34.35 | Stanzilla | thanks |
| 05:34.37 | Stanzilla | it was sooo hard |
| 05:35.17 | Xuerian | (Completely ignoring my group wiping out BEs..) |
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| 05:36.14 | Stanzilla | some of us already got the bear |
| 05:36.20 | Stanzilla | but we kill silvermoon next |
| 05:36.30 | Xuerian | Nice :p |
| 05:36.33 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 05:36.38 | Stanzilla | horde is sooo pissed |
| 05:36.57 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03Zidomo 04r78739b * r96 : Tagging as r78739b |
| 05:37.00 | Stanzilla | we're an alliance of the best 3 alliance guilds and ALL the horde alts in our guilds just /gquit :D |
| 05:37.10 | Repo | 10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala * r21 / (4 files in 4 directories): |
| 05:37.11 | Repo | Redo settings for LibFilter_ClosetGnome, LibFilter_ItemRack, display warning if settings are requested and base addon not loaded. Initial work in the Baggins adapter to allow filters to optional override native filters. |
| 05:37.51 | Xuerian | haha. |
| 05:38.12 | Xuerian | If I were on a pvp server with 70s on both sides, I'd help out, haha. |
| 05:38.18 | Xuerian | pve, even |
| 05:38.26 | Stanzilla | we are rp-pve :D |
| 05:38.49 | Xuerian | rp-pvp |
| 05:39.11 | eblume | Hi all, I have a rather strange question. Say I'm walking over an LUA table with 'for k,v in ipairs(tablefoo) do' where v is a table, with the intent of adding k as a value in v (in essence making all the keys parts of their values), would a way to do that be to say "local newtable = { k, v}"? |
| 05:39.17 | Xinhuan | well you're on a pve server |
| 05:39.21 | Xinhuan | that's why it was so easy lol! |
| 05:40.10 | Stanzilla | it wasnt easy |
| 05:40.12 | Stanzilla | I swear |
| 05:40.14 | Xinhuan | no eblume |
| 05:40.17 | Stanzilla | fight lasted 45minutes |
| 05:40.26 | Xinhuan | just do v[1] = k ? |
| 05:40.29 | eblume | If some background is useful: I have a table which is a result of a query to a database, but I want to order the results numerically instead of by name which is the default key, instead making the name a part of the k. |
| 05:40.51 | Xuerian | eblume: Custom iterators, AWAY |
| 05:41.02 | eblume | Custom iterators? That sounds perfect! |
| 05:41.04 | Xuerian | Welcome to the dark underbelly of tables, btw |
| 05:41.05 | eblume | I shall rad. |
| 05:41.06 | eblume | Read. |
| 05:41.42 | eblume | Heh, thank you, Xuerian. |
| 05:41.56 | quiescens | iterate iterate |
| 05:41.57 | Xuerian | eblume: Don't thank me just yet, you haven't emerged alive. |
| 05:42.12 | eblume | Hah. |
| 05:42.21 | HateMonkey | So the svn, where is it at now! |
| 05:42.29 | eblume | If it's more difficult to parse than the LibDataBroker documentation, I shall definitely perish. |
| 05:42.31 | Xuerian | HateMonkey: roflcakes |
| 05:42.38 | Xuerian | HateMonkey: What do you want to do, exactly? |
| 05:43.12 | HateMonkey | I used to use TortoiseSVN to pul directly from the SVN to update my mods, bypassing any zip files, and the WAU |
| 05:43.14 | Xinhuan | then you'll probably die horribly eblume |
| 05:43.31 | Xinhuan | even "fairly good" lua coders i know, can't even make a custom iterator reentrant |
| 05:43.33 | Xuerian | eblume: What do you want on your epitaph? |
| 05:43.36 | Xinhuan | without messing it up |
| 05:43.49 | HateMonkey | Now that the area I use to pull from is gone, where do I need to point to to get my files now? |
| 05:44.26 | eblume | Xuerian: "="!="==" |
| 05:44.36 | Xuerian | Touche'. |
| 05:44.38 | eblume | Note: not Lua. |
| 05:45.08 | Xinhuan | reentrancy of a custom iterator is important ;p |
| 05:45.09 | Xuerian | Also, the first person to correct me on the situational validity of "Touche'", shall receive a horrid evil glare. |
| 05:45.39 | eblume | Xinhuan: I will worry about that when I get there. :-) |
| 05:45.49 | quiescens | a wizard did it |
| 05:46.09 | HateMonkey | é |
| 05:46.18 | HateMonkey | touché |
| 05:46.31 | HateMonkey | alt+0233 |
| 05:46.59 | Xuerian | HateMonkey: wowace.com/ find the project get the repository link |
| 05:47.21 | HateMonkey | damn, so no easy way to do this, fuck. |
| 05:47.48 | Xuerian | Not really, no. |
| 05:48.00 | Xuerian | Especially since some projects use git now. |
| 05:49.28 | HateMonkey | whats git? |
| 05:51.17 | Xinhuan | something widely considered better than svn |
| 05:51.58 | quiescens | gasp |
| 05:53.12 | HateMonkey | but how do I go about using it? |
| 05:53.20 | Xinhuan | google "git manual" |
| 05:53.22 | Lukian | with a git client :p |
| 05:53.33 | Jaxon | http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=man+git&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 05:53.37 | Zyndrome | I think I have to take a serious talk with my GM, to stop using 100 photoshop-filters :p |
| 05:54.36 | Zyndrome | http://www.reve-guild.org/board/style_images/6_test_final.jpg ... can barely tell what is says |
| 05:55.00 | eblume | needs more lens flare |
| 05:55.09 | HateMonkey | i can tell |
| 05:55.18 | HateMonkey | but its far to warped |
| 05:56.22 | HateMonkey | does CurseForge have an SVN I can bum off of? |
| 05:57.04 | Lukian | I don't think you grasp how svn works :p |
| 05:57.27 | HateMonkey | I do |
| 05:57.46 | HateMonkey | I just don't know what kind of structure the websites have |
| 05:57.58 | HateMonkey | which makes an svn broswer kinda hard to use |
| 05:58.12 | Xinhuan | every project has its own repository now, on wowace |
| 05:58.19 | Xinhuan | there is no "one big repository" anymore |
| 05:58.27 | Xinhuan | so you have to get the repo URLs one by one for each addon |
| 05:58.30 | Xinhuan | got it? |
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| 05:58.41 | eblume | Ok, I think I have a fundamental misunderstanding of tables now, with this iterator stuff. It was my understanding that tables could have both numbered and unnumbered elements, and treating a table like an array meant you would skip all non-numeric elements. |
| 05:58.54 | Xinhuan | eblume: correct |
| 05:59.15 | Groktar | my new stuff should be here tomorrow/tue |
| 05:59.16 | eblume | But now this example makes it sound like going for i=0,#table do print i, table[i] end will actually print every element |
| 05:59.16 | Groktar | 4870x2, q9300, 4gb ram |
| 05:59.18 | Shefki | for k,v in ipairs(t) do something end |
| 05:59.33 | Groktar | prolly should have waited for nehalem, but i couldn't stand my slowass laptop anymore |
| 05:59.36 | eblume | http://lua-users.org/wiki/IteratorsTutorial |
| 05:59.44 | Xinhuan | ipairs() loops over from 1 to N |
| 05:59.49 | Groktar | (my desktop had an accident involving mountain dew) |
| 05:59.58 | Xinhuan | so its the same thing as for i = 1, #t do |
| 06:00.16 | Xinhuan | in fact "for i = 1, #t do" is far faster than "for k,v in ipairs(t)" |
| 06:00.20 | Shefki | I typed that before he said that. Just was showing him how to do what he was asking for. |
| 06:00.23 | HateMonkey | mountain dew, the cause to so many lifes problems |
| 06:00.24 | Xinhuan | because in the former, its just an integer incrementing on every loop |
| 06:00.35 | Xinhuan | while in the latter, you are doing a function call on every loop |
| 06:00.47 | Stanzilla | lor'themar 75% |
| 06:00.50 | Xinhuan | since ipairs() returns an numerical iterator function |
| 06:00.51 | Stanzilla | *whistle* |
| 06:01.03 | eblume | Xinhuan: but I fail to see how the former will catch the element table["bar"] |
| 06:01.03 | HateMonkey | Xinhuan: I know that, but a git repository is unaceptable! |
| 06:01.08 | Xinhuan | eblume: it doesn't |
| 06:01.13 | Xinhuan | you need pairs() for that |
| 06:01.15 | Xinhuan | not ipairs() |
| 06:01.28 | eblume | ipairs doesn't get numbered elements?! |
| 06:01.29 | eblume | Oh man. |
| 06:01.32 | eblume | I need to sit down. |
| 06:01.38 | Xinhuan | ipairs is for INTEGERS only |
| 06:01.39 | eblume | Er, I mean, ipairs doesn't get NON-Numbered |
| 06:01.43 | HateMonkey | arent you already sitting? |
| 06:01.45 | Xinhuan | and only from 1-N |
| 06:01.50 | Xinhuan | if your table has holes |
| 06:01.52 | Xinhuan | you're in trouble |
| 06:01.52 | eblume | Hah, I guess I am. Wow. |
| 06:01.56 | Xinhuan | if u using ipairs() |
| 06:02.00 | eblume | Ok, I need to re-evaluate. |
| 06:02.17 | Xinhuan | that is, if you have t[1] to t[100] but t[50] is nil, then ipairs() will stop at 49 |
| 06:02.36 | eblume | Xinhuan: Ok, I see what you mean. |
| 06:02.42 | eblume | but pairs() would get them all? |
| 06:02.45 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:02.49 | Xinhuan | but the order of pairs() is undefined |
| 06:02.51 | eblume | But be much slower. |
| 06:02.54 | eblume | And unordered, I see. |
| 06:03.22 | Xinhuan | for array tables, always use for i = 1, #t |
| 06:03.32 | Xinhuan | ipairs() is gauranteed to be slower 100% of the time |
| 06:04.36 | Xinhuan | also #t will return any integer n, where t[n] is non-nil and t[n+1] is nil |
| 06:04.54 | eblume | Right. |
| 06:05.05 | eblume | Ok! |
| 06:05.20 | eblume | Now, next question: What the heck is the state variable in custom iterators for? |
| 06:05.33 | Xinhuan | the pairs() function |
| 06:05.35 | Xinhuan | returns 3 values |
| 06:05.53 | Xinhuan | it returns "next, key, value" |
| 06:06.04 | Xinhuan | where next is the next() function |
| 06:06.10 | quiescens | what are you even trying to do |
| 06:06.27 | Xinhuan | no i'm wrong lol |
| 06:06.42 | eblume | quiescens: I've got a table which is a result of a query to a database. I want to write custom iterators to order that table in different ways. |
| 06:06.43 | Xinhuan | pairs() returns 3 values, "next, constant, key" |
| 06:07.07 | Xinhuan | on every iteration, its just calling next(constant, prevkey) |
| 06:07.14 | Xinhuan | to get the next pair of key, value |
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| 06:07.22 | Xinhuan | where constant is the table u passed in |
| 06:07.26 | Xinhuan | consider this |
| 06:07.30 | eblume | I wanted to do that by assigning a numeric value to every element of the result, and changing them around each time I need to re-sort it, but Xinhuan suggested custom iterators |
| 06:07.50 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5} for k,v in pairs(t) do print(v) end |
| 06:07.50 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 06:08.01 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {1, 2, 3, 4, 5} for k,v in next, t, nil do print(v) end |
| 06:08.01 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 |
| 06:08.03 | Xinhuan | see? |
| 06:08.11 | eblume | let me percolate on that |
| 06:08.34 | Xinhuan | pairs() is just a shorthand for "next, t, nil" |
| 06:08.44 | Xinhuan | i.e a redundant function call |
| 06:08.49 | Neffi | Xinhuan: Do a speed comparison. pairs() is faster. |
| 06:08.53 | quiescens | if you need to actually re sort the table couldn't you use an actual sort |
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| 06:09.33 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} print(pairs(t)) |
| 06:09.34 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: function: 0x806a9e8, table: 0x80980d0, nil |
| 06:09.45 | Xinhuan | lua> print(next) |
| 06:09.46 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: function: 0x806ad68 |
| 06:10.00 | Neffi | Expecting them to be the same? lol |
| 06:10.01 | Xinhuan | the version of "next()" returned by pairs() is faster |
| 06:10.08 | Xinhuan | nah i knew they were different |
| 06:10.11 | Xinhuan | one is in C code |
| 06:10.35 | eblume | quiescens: Xinhuan: I think this is something that bears consideration in the future, but for now I'll make do with re-sorting the table each time changing the order is needed and iterating over it numerically. |
| 06:10.37 | Neffi | t,next works, but pairs() should be preferred |
| 06:10.39 | Xinhuan | but its in understanding how iterators work |
| 06:11.16 | Xinhuan | i've give you a clue eblume, you need a temporary table :) |
| 06:11.20 | Neffi | Also, ipairs is faster than pairs, so keep that in mind if it's an array. |
| 06:12.05 | eblume | Which brings me back to my initial question: How does one... how to put this... how would one change a string-value table into an index-value table, where value is always a table as well, and the resulting table has the string as an element of value |
| 06:12.07 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 06:12.10 | Stanzilla | war bear |
| 06:12.14 | eblume | I know that's a loaded question |
| 06:12.31 | Xinhuan | i mean, your custom iterator will need a temporary table |
| 06:12.38 | eblume | Forget custom iterators :-0- |
| 06:12.40 | eblume | :-) |
| 06:12.44 | eblume | I'll figure them out after. |
| 06:12.50 | quiescens | does ipairs have much of a speed difference against pairs |
| 06:12.58 | Xinhuan | yes, about 40% faster |
| 06:13.40 | Neffi | eblume: Create a temp table, iterate over the original table, fill the temp table with k/v. |
| 06:13.56 | Xinhuan | eblume custom iterators are used for more complicated things, such as "for coord, node, icon, alpha in self:IterateNearbyNodes(db.Herbs.DunMorogh) do" |
| 06:13.56 | quiescens | there shouldn't be that big a difference |
| 06:14.09 | Neffi | The way you're explaining it, you'll be throwing out tons of tables. Perhaps you need an altogether different solution? |
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| 06:14.23 | Hessen | hey guys I need some help with something real easy |
| 06:14.25 | eblume | Neffi: That begs the question, without iterating over the values in v each time, is there a way to unpack v's variables into the resulting element of the temp table? |
| 06:14.33 | pakoz9 | sup hessen |
| 06:14.34 | Neffi | quienscens: Test it then. But ipairs only has to increment a number. It should be much faster. |
| 06:14.37 | Xinhuan | you can take a look at examples of custom iterators in GatherMate, Cartographer_Notes, and HandyNotes |
| 06:14.43 | quiescens | pairs is unordered |
| 06:14.46 | Hessen | the dogtag ingame help doesnt work. And I cant remember how to set a text to be ur own color |
| 06:14.51 | quiescens | it should be able to retrieve the data in whatever order it is being stored in |
| 06:14.58 | quiescens | unless lua does it badly |
| 06:15.06 | eblume | Xinhuan: Thanks! |
| 06:15.08 | Hessen | whats the syntax to change collor on [name], dogtag. |
| 06:15.13 | doom0r | Hessen: it's been updated |
| 06:15.30 | doom0r | latest ver work |
| 06:15.31 | doom0r | s |
| 06:15.36 | Hessen | alright |
| 06:15.36 | Xinhuan | but for your case, you should just use a temporary table, table.sort it, then iterate over |
| 06:15.47 | Xinhuan | because that's would you would be doing anyway |
| 06:15.52 | Xinhuan | even if you use a custom iterator |
| 06:16.15 | Neffi | lua> local TABLE={1,2,3}; --[[]] local t=os.clock(); for i=1,10000 do for _ in ipairs(TABLE) do end end; print(os.clock()-t); --[[ ]] local t=os.clock(); for i=1,10000 do for _ in pairs(TABLE) do end end; print(os.clock()-t); |
| 06:16.15 | lua_bot | Neffi: 0.01, 0 |
| 06:16.21 | Neffi | Err |
| 06:16.26 | Neffi | lua> local TABLE={1,2,3}; --[[]] local t=os.clock(); for i=1,100000 do for _ in ipairs(TABLE) do end end; print(os.clock()-t); --[[ ]] local t=os.clock(); for i=1,100000 do for _ in pairs(TABLE) do end end; print(os.clock()-t); |
| 06:16.26 | lua_bot | Neffi: 0.07, 0.06 |
| 06:16.36 | Neffi | Oh my |
| 06:16.47 | Stanzilla | Xinhuan: http://www.staneck.de/upload/files/7d7b4b-WoWScrnShot_110308_071510.jpg :P |
| 06:16.48 | quiescens | that's what I suggested, it sounds like you may as well *actually* sort a table rather than try to iterate over it in some custom order |
| 06:16.59 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 06:17.03 | quiescens | I don't actually know and haven't done actual tests, I'm just saying |
| 06:17.07 | Neffi | Well in my last test ipairs was faster. I fucked something up somewhere. |
| 06:17.15 | quiescens | implementation-wise, they should be very similar |
| 06:18.15 | Neffi | Will pairs try to order itself to a set of consecutive integers? Or is it just totally unordered? |
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| 06:18.23 | quiescens | its completely unordered |
| 06:18.38 | quiescens | it will retrieve it in whatever order the data is currently stored it |
| 06:18.41 | Xuerian | Stanzilla: Aaaassss :p |
| 06:18.47 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 06:19.00 | Neffi | lua> for k in pairs{'','','','','','',''} do print(k) end |
| 06:19.01 | lua_bot | Neffi: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 |
| 06:19.06 | Neffi | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.26 | Xinhuan | that's cos its an arrya |
| 06:19.28 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 06:19.37 | Neffi | "Will pairs try to order itself to a set of consecutive integers? Or is it just totally unordered? " |
| 06:19.38 | Xinhuan | it isn't converted to a hash table yet |
| 06:19.47 | Neffi | lua> for k in pairs{'','','','','','','',a=""} do print(k) end |
| 06:19.47 | Hessen | doom0r, still doesnt work here |
| 06:19.47 | lua_bot | Neffi: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, a |
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| 06:19.58 | Neffi | So I guess it will try |
| 06:20.27 | Xinhuan | the first part is still array though |
| 06:20.28 | Neffi | lua> for k in pairs{a='','','','','','',''} do print(k) end |
| 06:20.28 | lua_bot | Neffi: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, a |
| 06:20.30 | doom0r | Hessen: r207 or newer? |
| 06:20.36 | quiescens | I don't think it tries to do anything specifically |
| 06:20.40 | Xinhuan | the table constructor is pretty smart |
| 06:20.47 | Neffi | Xinhuan: So it handles different 'parts' of a table differently? |
| 06:20.49 | Neffi | Interesting |
| 06:20.50 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 06:20.55 | quiescens | well |
| 06:20.56 | Hessen | doom0r I just use pitbull. And when I try to use to dogtag help from in there |
| 06:20.59 | Hessen | I get error |
| 06:21.12 | Neffi | I wonder if we sacrifice speed for that. Or rather, how much of it. |
| 06:21.13 | doom0r | because the working dogtag is an alpha |
| 06:21.14 | quiescens | tables or whatever you want to call them in language of context of this type |
| 06:21.28 | doom0r | @project LibDogTag-3.0 |
| 06:21.28 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'LibDogTag-3.0' |
| 06:21.32 | doom0r | @project LibDogTag |
| 06:21.33 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'LibDogTag' |
| 06:21.49 | doom0r | @project LibDogTag-3-0 |
| 06:21.50 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libdogtag-3-0/. LibDogTag-3.0. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 7 days ago. Tickets: 5/6 |
| 06:22.04 | Hessen | alright, where do I put it? |
| 06:22.11 | quiescens | is usually stores the values using a key generated using some sort of hashing algorithm, so any specific ordering generally won't make sense to the user |
| 06:22.42 | doom0r | where the broke dogtag is..... |
| 06:23.32 | Hessen | in pitbull |
| 06:24.29 | Hessen | so |
| 06:24.35 | Hessen | r207 you suggest? |
| 06:24.37 | eblume | lua> local TABLE = { ["foo"] = {"a","few","vals"}}; local NEWTABLE = {}; for k,v in pairs(TABLE) do NEWTABLE[#NEWTABLE] = { ["name"] = k, unpack(v)} end; for k,v in ipairs(NEWTABLE) do print(k,v) end; |
| 06:24.37 | lua_bot | eblume: No output |
| 06:24.41 | Hessen | or 208? |
| 06:24.42 | eblume | Eesh. |
| 06:24.43 | eblume | I suck. |
| 06:25.17 | eblume | can anyone spot my error? |
| 06:25.25 | eblume | (I'm still learning, be gentle.) |
| 06:25.42 | Xinhuan | well ipairs() only loops over numeric indexes |
| 06:25.51 | eblume | that's the point, I want NEWTABLE to be numeric. |
| 06:26.00 | Xinhuan | you did NEWTABLE[#NEWTABLE] which is NEWTABLE[3] |
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| 06:26.10 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 06:26.10 | eblume | Really? |
| 06:26.12 | Xinhuan | you did NEWTABLE[#NEWTABLE] which is NEWTABLE[0] |
| 06:26.20 | Xinhuan | ipairs() loops from 1-N |
| 06:26.22 | Xinhuan | not 0-N |
| 06:26.25 | eblume | Oh crap, ipairs starts at 1 |
| 06:26.27 | eblume | Stupid LUA. |
| 06:26.29 | eblume | Er |
| 06:26.29 | eblume | Lua |
| 06:26.33 | eblume | (LUA is not an acronym) |
| 06:26.33 | Xinhuan | u need #NEWTABLE+1 |
| 06:26.40 | eblume | Thanks :-) |
| 06:26.51 | eblume | lua> local TABLE = { ["foo"] = {"a","few","vals"}}; local NEWTABLE = {}; for k,v in pairs(TABLE) do NEWTABLE[#NEWTABLE+1] = { ["name"] = k, unpack(v)} end; for k,v in ipairs(NEWTABLE) do print(k,v) end; |
| 06:26.51 | lua_bot | eblume: 1, table: 0x80982b8 |
| 06:26.52 | Xinhuan | yes, a[#a+1] = something is a common lua construct |
| 06:27.15 | eblume | Hmm... that isn't the right output at all. |
| 06:27.23 | eblume | So, the error is aroudn unpack |
| 06:27.35 | quiescens | I still think its probably easiest to sort it in place or copy the table and sort the copy if its not performance critical |
| 06:27.39 | eblume | do you see where I say unpack? There, I want something that will put each value in v into NEWTABLE[#] |
| 06:27.39 | Xinhuan | it is correct |
| 06:27.45 | quiescens | just for simplicity of it making sense |
| 06:27.47 | Xinhuan | v is a table |
| 06:28.05 | Xinhuan | you unpacked it |
| 06:28.09 | eblume | Right, and I want the values in v to be put into NEWTABLE[#] |
| 06:28.11 | Xinhuan | { ["name"] = k, unpack(v)} |
| 06:28.21 | Xinhuan | so the new values becomes [1][2][3] |
| 06:28.22 | eblume | er |
| 06:28.26 | eblume | ohhh |
| 06:28.28 | eblume | wait... |
| 06:28.29 | eblume | hmm. |
| 06:28.49 | Xinhuan | how about you tell us your input, and your output |
| 06:28.53 | eblume | lua> local TABLE = { ["foo"] = {["bar"]="a",["baz"]="few",["boff"]="vals"}}; local NEWTABLE = {}; for k,v in pairs(TABLE) do NEWTABLE[#NEWTABLE+1] = { ["name"] = k, unpack(v)} end; for k,v in ipairs(NEWTABLE) do print(k,v) end; |
| 06:28.53 | lua_bot | eblume: 1, table: 0x809ae28 |
| 06:28.55 | Xinhuan | and we write the loop for you |
| 06:29.05 | eblume | Heh, ok, let me make a pastebin |
| 06:29.55 | Hessen | hey doom0r, works fine |
| 06:29.56 | Hessen | thanks amn |
| 06:30.03 | doom0r | np |
| 06:31.22 | Hessen | hum |
| 06:31.31 | Xinhuan | btw, did anyone mention unpack() only works on array tables from 1-N? |
| 06:31.52 | quiescens | voodoo |
| 06:31.56 | Xinhuan | so i have no idea what you are trying ;p |
| 06:32.04 | Xinhuan | since you unpacked nothing hehe |
| 06:32.10 | eblume | Xinhuan: I'm working on a nice little exampkle |
| 06:32.12 | eblume | example* |
| 06:32.19 | Hessen | Anyone got a palette website where I can test colors and see their RGB stats? like FF0000. |
| 06:32.36 | quiescens | I can't make sense of confusing one-liners in this language |
| 06:32.38 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 06:32.38 | Hessen | I had one of these bookmarked but recently cleaned my disc |
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| 06:34.02 | quiescens | but for the purposes of demonstrating the earlier point |
| 06:34.05 | quiescens | lua> for k in pairs{a='',c='',b=7,'',[32]='',[57]='','',[6]=5} do print(k) end |
| 06:34.06 | lua_bot | quiescens: 1, 2, a, c, b, 6, 57, 32 |
| 06:34.24 | quiescens | not sorted in any useful way at all |
| 06:34.36 | quiescens | retrieved in the order that it is being Internally stored |
| 06:35.35 | doom0r | wow |
| 06:35.52 | doom0r | "peacekeeper" killed me for mobs coming and attacking me in town that are enemies |
| 06:35.53 | doom0r | gg |
| 06:35.58 | Repo | 10simple-self-rebuff: 03Adirelle 04v2.0.3 * r197 : Tagging as v2.0.3. |
| 06:38.17 | eblume | Xinhuan: http://pastebin.com/m3a10650b |
| 06:38.40 | Repo | 10cast-yeller: 03Adirelle * r174 announces/druid.lua: Druid spells: added Revive. |
| 06:38.56 | eblume | Xinhuan: Crap, I forgot to return Query |
| 06:39.06 | eblume | just assume it returns result |
| 06:39.25 | Xinhuan | so you just want to change the key from a string to an integer, and store the key in .name ? |
| 06:39.43 | eblume | Exactly! |
| 06:39.45 | Xinhuan | easy |
| 06:39.49 | eblume | I figured. |
| 06:40.35 | quiescens | I wasn't aware of a Wizard class o.o |
| 06:40.40 | eblume | Oh man, heh, also that pastebin assumes Gnome and Wizard are LUA default variables. |
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| 06:40.40 | eblume | Hahahah. |
| 06:40.45 | eblume | And also I said Wizard. |
| 06:40.47 | eblume | Nice. |
| 06:40.51 | eblume | *sigh* |
| 06:41.01 | eblume | But yeah, you get the idea. |
| 06:41.07 | Xinhuan | local i = 1; local DBNEW = {} for key, value in pairs(DB) do i=i+1; DBNEW[i] = v; v.name = key end |
| 06:41.18 | Xinhuan | then you can destroy your old DB |
| 06:41.26 | eblume | zooboomafoo, you're right. |
| 06:41.32 | eblume | THANKS! |
| 06:41.39 | eblume | I need to go back to intro to programming class. |
| 06:41.55 | Xinhuan | err well those "v" is really "value" |
| 06:41.58 | eblume | See what I mean when i was thinking that custom iterators were a bit much here? |
| 06:42.04 | eblume | right |
| 06:42.44 | quiescens | I need to stop getting into code discussions |
| 06:43.06 | eblume | I will need to come back and make sure everything is super-efficient though, as Query will be called many times, rapidly, and will be searching over a database of potentially tens of thousands of entries. (more likely a thousand or so.) |
| 06:43.08 | Xinhuan | or you can table.sort() your new table :) |
| 06:43.24 | eblume | How does table.sort sort? |
| 06:43.29 | eblume | Does it sort by class? |
| 06:43.31 | eblume | I doubt it. :-D |
| 06:43.46 | quiescens | table.sort( inserttablehere, function (a, b) return a["class"] < b["class"] end ) |
| 06:43.56 | quiescens | may or may not work |
| 06:43.56 | eblume | .... I am going to cry, that is so awesome. |
| 06:44.02 | Xinhuan | local sortfunction = function(a, b) return DBNEW[a].name < DBNEW[b].name end table.sort(DBNEW, sortfunction) |
| 06:44.26 | Xinhuan | sort() only works on arrays 1-N |
| 06:44.37 | eblume | Man, that is such BS. |
| 06:44.44 | eblume | Why does Lua use 1-based arrays? |
| 06:44.48 | eblume | What reason? |
| 06:44.55 | Xinhuan | because starting from 1 is saner |
| 06:44.58 | Xinhuan | than starting from 0 |
| 06:45.11 | eblume | I fail to see why. |
| 06:45.20 | Xinhuan | in C, you have to keep doing < N and doing N-1 checks |
| 06:45.29 | Xinhuan | so dumb |
| 06:45.33 | eblume | Just consider it an offset, which is what it is. |
| 06:45.40 | eblume | First element has 0 offset. |
| 06:45.47 | Xinhuan | i know its because in C, a[0] is really a+0 where a is pointer to the array |
| 06:45.53 | Xinhuan | hence it starts at 0 |
| 06:46.13 | Xinhuan | but arrays in lua isn't stored consecutively like in C in memory |
| 06:46.19 | eblume | Right. I guess it's just a style difference. |
| 06:46.28 | eblume | I'm so used to counting by 0. |
| 06:46.32 | Xinhuan | so if you have 20 items, its just 1-20 |
| 06:46.34 | Xinhuan | not 0-19 |
| 06:46.45 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r117 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 06:46.46 | Repo | updates to some module defaults and clean out some commented stuff |
| 06:46.52 | eblume | It's gotten to the point where I count from 0-19 in real life, though. |
| 06:46.55 | Xinhuan | the fact that you had to add 1 when you do printf() |
| 06:46.59 | Xinhuan | is stupid |
| 06:47.06 | Xinhuan | since humans count from 1 |
| 06:47.24 | quiescens | mm |
| 06:47.29 | quiescens | am I misreading the documentation on table.sort |
| 06:47.41 | quiescens | doesn't it pass the actual elements as arguments to the sort function |
| 06:47.52 | eblume | Like, friday night, when my friends and I went out to tour the city, I made sure to count my friends to make sure no one had been snatched. I always counted from 0. |
| 06:47.59 | eblume | I've been programmed to think that way. ;-) |
| 06:48.00 | Xinhuan | hmmmm quiescens, you're right |
| 06:48.09 | Xinhuan | local sortfunction = function(a, b) return a.name < b.name end table.sort(DBNEW, sortfunction) |
| 06:48.11 | Xinhuan | <-- corrected |
| 06:48.49 | Groktar | hmm |
| 06:49.16 | quiescens | anyway, I'm going to stop interjecting random comments |
| 06:49.41 | eblume | you've been very helpful, quiescens! |
| 06:49.53 | eblume | And as always, Xinhuan, many thanks. |
| 06:50.33 | Xinhuan | keep in mind that loop |
| 06:50.45 | Xinhuan | where you reassigned "value" from the old table to the new table |
| 06:50.49 | Xinhuan | its still the same table |
| 06:51.18 | eblume | right |
| 06:51.22 | eblume | which is also more efficient |
| 06:51.30 | eblume | I should have thought of that earlier. |
| 06:52.21 | Xinhuan | so you could still access DB.George.name == "George" |
| 06:52.51 | eblume | which is very important for me |
| 06:52.56 | eblume | Ohhh |
| 06:52.57 | eblume | wait |
| 06:53.00 | eblume | I see what you mean there. |
| 06:53.02 | Xinhuan | and NEWDB[some integer].name = "George" |
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| 06:53.11 | eblume | Hmmmm. |
| 06:53.27 | eblume | Ok... I guess that aside from being redundant, that's not such a huge issue. |
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| 06:53.30 | Xinhuan | ya |
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| 06:53.42 | Xinhuan | tables are just objects in memory, variables are just pointers to them |
| 06:53.48 | eblume | *nod* |
| 06:53.55 | eblume | is there a limit to the SavedVariables file? |
| 06:54.14 | Xinhuan | about 600 gb before you run out of disk space |
| 06:54.20 | eblume | Heh, gotcha. |
| 06:54.32 | eblume | I can't imagine my addon using anything like Auctioneer's memory, for instance. |
| 06:54.33 | Xinhuan | also don't try to save recursive tables |
| 06:54.43 | eblume | What happens? |
| 06:54.50 | eblume | I've always wondered. |
| 06:54.53 | Xinhuan | well, your harddisk gets filled up |
| 06:54.58 | Xinhuan | and yu eventually get a out of space error |
| 06:54.59 | eblume | Hah, so it doesn't detect it? |
| 06:55.15 | Xinhuan | not sure, never tried ;p |
| 06:55.18 | eblume | Nasty. |
| 06:55.20 | eblume | Heh. |
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| 06:55.45 | eblume | I was also wondering about saving metatables set to auto-fill elements |
| 06:55.53 | eblume | does it just save an infinite table? |
| 06:55.59 | eblume | running out of space? |
| 06:55.59 | Xinhuan | metatables don't get saved |
| 06:56.00 | Groktar | godzirra, you there? |
| 06:56.15 | doom0r | moving all my chars to a pve server is very tempting |
| 06:56.25 | doom0r | specially since free transfers are up |
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| 06:56.36 | Xinhuan | only key/values, and only if the keys/values are simple types (i.e boolean, number, strings) |
| 06:56.39 | Xinhuan | values can be tables |
| 06:57.01 | Xinhuan | so while you can have functions/tables as keys, and functions as values, they get ignored by wow when saving |
| 06:57.01 | eblume | So it won't store Frames, for instance |
| 06:57.11 | eblume | Cool. |
| 06:57.19 | eblume | Is there an LUA TypeOf function or something? |
| 06:57.20 | Xinhuan | don't try to save a frame, you'll get a few hudred mb |
| 06:57.22 | Xinhuan | of SV |
| 06:57.27 | eblume | heh |
| 07:00.56 | Xinhuan | lua> type(1) |
| 07:00.56 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: number |
| 07:01.03 | Xinhuan | returns a string |
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| 07:01.25 | Xinhuan | one of "number", "string", "nil", "boolean", "function", "userdata", or "table" |
| 07:04.30 | eblume | nice |
| 07:06.20 | Groktar | pounces Xinhuan |
| 07:06.28 | quiescens | stabs xinhuan with a pillow. |
| 07:06.48 | Groktar | grabs the pillow from quiescens and uses it to smother Xinhuan |
| 07:07.21 | Xinhuan | ow |
| 07:07.50 | Groktar | you can't talk while you're dead! |
| 07:07.55 | tlund | from reading the wowace ssh-key documentation on the website, my guess is that i can no longer check in code to any addon i want, i need to be pre-approved for each project, is this correct? |
| 07:08.34 | eblume | Nope, you can check it into any project which hasn't set it's repository to closed to unauthorized commits. |
| 07:08.39 | eblume | The default state is open. |
| 07:08.45 | Xinhuan | you still can commit to most repos |
| 07:08.48 | Xinhuan | which are open |
| 07:09.16 | eblume | it's = its |
| 07:12.40 | tlund | eblume: aha, good. |
| 07:12.52 | tlund | i have a one-liner-fix to make "Capping" 3.0.2-compattible :) |
| 07:12.57 | tlund | just gonna upload a key then |
| 07:13.03 | Xinhuan | don't |
| 07:13.18 | Xinhuan | author of capping has moved his projects to wowinterface |
| 07:13.24 | Xinhuan | doesn't update wowace anymore |
| 07:13.35 | Arrowmaster | do they even exist on wowace anymore? |
| 07:13.37 | Xinhuan | see wowinterface for updated versions (from TotalPackage) |
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| 07:13.46 | Xinhuan | nope, they were auto purged i think |
| 07:13.49 | Xinhuan | after 1 week of deletion |
| 07:13.57 | theoddone33 | my IM client was takin up twice as much memory as WoW... just *maybe* they have a leak in there somewhere |
| 07:14.06 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 07:14.12 | _Yssaril_ | there any good addons that save highest crit/normal hit for an ability? |
| 07:14.13 | Arrowmaster | and grr need more bandwidth |
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| 07:14.27 | eblume | naw, any good IM client should definitely be accessing your HD every 5 seconds and aggressively predicting packet traffic |
| 07:14.33 | Groktar | ctcp groktard ping |
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| 07:15.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah grrr |
| 07:15.23 | Arrowmaster | 7mbit is deffently not enough =( |
| 07:15.39 | eblume | _Yssaril_, I used to use TopScoreFu, but it stopped working for me. |
| 07:15.50 | eblume | I might take another look soon. |
| 07:15.53 | Arrowmaster | it should still work |
| 07:15.55 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 07:16.25 | Hessen | Arrowmaster |
| 07:16.28 | Hessen | hi master :D |
| 07:16.34 | Hessen | thanks for helping me the other day |
| 07:17.04 | Hessen | Was wondering if you'd have the time to help me for a quick macro? |
| 07:17.24 | Hessen | been looking all over arenajunkies, elitestjerks etc and cant find it |
| 07:18.32 | eblume | does anyone know what sort table.sort uses? |
| 07:18.43 | Xinhuan | quicksort |
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| 07:19.36 | eblume | Thanks |
| 07:20.02 | Xinhuan | due to how lua works, i think a custom shellsort is faster than table.sort though |
| 07:20.14 | Xinhuan | thought i read that somewhere |
| 07:20.24 | Xinhuan | unsure |
| 07:20.25 | tlund | Xinhuan: it should be removed from wowace svn then? |
| 07:20.39 | Xinhuan | i believe it has been removed, isn't it tlund? |
| 07:20.49 | Arrowmaster | lua> i=0 table.sort({5,4,3,2,1}, function(a,b) i=i+1 return a < b end) return i |
| 07:20.49 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 9 |
| 07:21.39 | eblume | Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo. |
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| 07:22.13 | eblume | That is my contribution for the night. |
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| 07:22.22 | groktard | are running the windows 7 |
| 07:22.24 | tlund | Xinhuan: the page has, it seems, but http://www.wowace.com/projects/Capping/files/ is still there, fo |
| 07:22.38 | tlund | i downloaded the "latest" version yesterday, found it via google :) |
| 07:22.49 | groktard | this is 6801 |
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| 07:23.12 | Stanzilla | groktard: unlocked the new taskbar yet? |
| 07:23.26 | groktard | haven't started |
| 07:23.29 | groktard | just got it installed |
| 07:23.30 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 07:23.42 | Stanzilla | groktard: http://www.withinwindows.com/2008/11/02/flashy-windows-7-bits-protected-by-elaborate-scheme-workaround/ |
| 07:23.45 | Xinhuan | tlund, if you access http://www.wowace.com/projects/Capping |
| 07:23.47 | Xinhuan | what do you see? |
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| 07:25.44 | tlund | Xinhuan: as I said, the project page has been removed, but i just googled "wowace capping files" and fond http://www.wowace.com/projects/Capping/files/ (that redirects to http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13614/files/) |
| 07:25.50 | tlund | Xinhuan: it should probably be deleted aswell |
| 07:26.00 | orionshock | Nargiddley: in AceGUI, it is normal for an edit box to retain focus after you hit enter? |
| 07:26.10 | Xinhuan | so tlund, you're saying the /files subpage works? |
| 07:26.15 | Xinhuan | but the main project page doesn't? |
| 07:26.33 | Arrowmaster | seems like a permission issue |
| 07:26.44 | Xinhuan | ckknight: ^^ fix |
| 07:27.00 | Arrowmaster | for us the main page redirects to the project-13614 but it should give an error for others |
| 07:27.07 | Arrowmaster | but the files page is just redirecting |
| 07:27.17 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 07:27.35 | Nargiddley | orionshock, clear the focus in your handler if you want it to do that |
| 07:27.59 | orionshock | ah, was wondering how it was intended. |
| 07:28.55 | Nargiddley | well in ConfigDialog an enter press is always a rebuild of the window, so its never really come up |
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| 07:30.47 | tlund | Xinhuan: did you even try the URL i pasted? |
| 07:31.01 | Xinhuan | i am an admin, so i can see stuff you normally can't ;p |
| 07:31.01 | tlund | Xinhuan: if you didnt, then, "yes", that is what i'm saying. |
| 07:31.08 | tlund | oh, sorry. :) |
| 07:31.30 | groktard | kewl |
| 07:31.30 | pakoz9 | any holy priests around? |
| 07:31.33 | groktard | got it unlocked |
| 07:31.34 | groktard | <- |
| 07:31.44 | tlund | yes, http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13614/files/ allows you to download out-of-date versions of Capping, that seems to be the lastest ones. |
| 07:32.01 | Xinhuan | yeah, you're not supposed to be able to see it lol |
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| 07:32.13 | tlund | is svn+ssh://svn.wowace.com/ the correct URL to check out? |
| 07:32.25 | Xinhuan | that wouldn't checkout anything |
| 07:33.03 | tlund | uhu? |
| 07:33.09 | tlund | then, what is the correct url? |
| 07:33.46 | Yssaril | tlund: each project has its own so check on the project page |
| 07:33.48 | eblume | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:33.51 | eblume | for my addon. |
| 07:34.06 | eblume | Check out the project page, under "Repository" |
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| 07:34.35 | tlund | Yssaril: GAH, i wanted to check out all of them :/ |
| 07:34.41 | tlund | Yssaril: it was like that a year ago |
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| 07:34.49 | eblume | tlund: Why on earth would you want to do that? |
| 07:34.51 | Xinhuan | it was like that 1 month ago |
| 07:35.16 | Yssaril | tlund: that has been "fixed" for improved performance/maintneance and a whole lot of other reasons |
| 07:35.26 | tlund | Yssaril: i see. thanks :) |
| 07:35.30 | eblume | tlund: the reason it was changed was largely because people used to do crazy things like check out the entire repository. |
| 07:36.22 | tlund | i dont see whats crazy about doing that? |
| 07:36.28 | Jaxon | ... |
| 07:37.03 | Yssaril | tlund: crazy amount of wasted bandwidth and it slowed down everything for everyone |
| 07:37.10 | eblume | Because it means that you are downloading thousands of addons you don't ever want to touch, and to produce each of those checkouts, the server is processing thousands of diff's (even if most are 0 bytes) |
| 07:37.30 | Yssaril | that too |
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| 07:37.41 | tlund | eblume: checking out doesnt process diffs |
| 07:37.55 | Xinhuan | heh Arrowmaster did you see that new "LibHandyHelper" waiting to be approved? |
| 07:37.59 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 07:38.01 | eblume | I believe it does, but even if it didn't, my logic holds. |
| 07:39.04 | Xinhuan | eblume: it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't checkout "with externals" |
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| 07:39.18 | eblume | God, yes. |
| 07:39.28 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: WideQuestLog..... this sounds familiar |
| 07:39.29 | Xinhuan | checkout 1000 addons each with ace2 externals == 1000 copies of ace2 checked out, one by one, fully |
| 07:39.31 | eblume | Can you imagine? |
| 07:39.39 | Xinhuan | yes, i put it under review and sent him a forum PM |
| 07:39.40 | eblume | MILLIONS of downloads of the same file. |
| 07:39.49 | eblume | From one person. |
| 07:39.59 | tlund | Xinhuan: why would i check out the externals? |
| 07:40.03 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: did you compare it to doublewide? |
| 07:40.10 | Xinhuan | newbies do tlund |
| 07:40.19 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, the screenshot looks different |
| 07:40.20 | tlund | Xinhuan: do newbies get SVN access? |
| 07:40.23 | Xinhuan | when compared to doublewide |
| 07:40.36 | Xinhuan | tlund: just about anyone can right now, just register on curse, and you have it. |
| 07:40.40 | Arrowmaster | barely |
| 07:40.58 | Xinhuan | anyway, Arrowmaster the real reason why i put it on review isn't because its similar to doublewide |
| 07:41.08 | tlund | Xinhuan: ok. |
| 07:41.14 | Xinhuan | its because there DID used to be an addon called WideQuestLog on the wowace svn |
| 07:41.15 | tlund | hmmm.. i _DID_ get libs when i checkd out /wow/socialist/mainline/trunk |
| 07:41.17 | Yssaril | i think everyone can pull form the repos but you may need dev access to be able to commit |
| 07:41.17 | Arrowmaster | do you remember who it was that i bitched out for copy pasting doublewide onto the svn under a different name a long time ago? |
| 07:41.25 | Xinhuan | by the author lyly (who commited under lyly00) |
| 07:41.28 | eblume | tlund: Heh, yes, don't look at that. >.> |
| 07:41.30 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: yes i remember deleting it |
| 07:41.39 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: and bitching out the person that uploaded it |
| 07:41.40 | eblume | tlund: That's me just fidgiting around with an alpha release. |
| 07:41.45 | tlund | eblume: okok :) |
| 07:41.49 | eblume | :-) |
| 07:41.50 | Xinhuan | so i am trying to find out if its the same addon |
| 07:41.54 | Xinhuan | or a new one |
| 07:42.02 | Xinhuan | before approval |
| 07:43.01 | Xinhuan | the old one you deleted Arrowmaster, is actually available in one of those compilation packs on wowi |
| 07:43.10 | Xinhuan | and that copmilation is recent, updated Oct 16 |
| 07:43.21 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 07:43.42 | Arrowmaster | wowi needs to follow suit and put an end to the fucking compilations |
| 07:43.54 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11390-RexaUIWidescreen.html |
| 07:43.55 | Xinhuan | that one |
| 07:44.05 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r10 / (15 files in 4 directories): (Message trimmed by 8 lines) |
| 07:44.06 | Repo | MorgDKP2 |
| 07:44.07 | Repo | -WEB: fix slashes not being removed |
| 07:44.10 | Repo | -fix listDKP not updating with raid group changes and not adding members not previously in list |
| 07:44.14 | Repo | -fix DE loot being recorded in some cases |
| 07:44.22 | doom0r | the one nice thing about the comps is you find these random ass addons that are awesome |
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| 07:45.25 | Xinhuan | if you download that 20 mb package Arrowmaster |
| 07:45.37 | Xinhuan | its actually a "last updated march 2008" copy of it or something |
| 07:45.43 | Xinhuan | from the svn around commit numbers 60k |
| 07:45.48 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r4 MagicRunes.lua: - Added orientation config (vertical/horizontal). |
| 07:45.49 | Repo | - Added option to set spacing between bars. |
| 07:45.49 | Repo | - Cleaned up configuration options some. |
| 07:46.12 | Arrowmaster | it was that recent ago? |
| 07:46.21 | Arrowmaster | seemed like it was a long time ago |
| 07:46.28 | Xinhuan | ya i looked |
| 07:46.33 | Xinhuan | just to see the Author: field |
| 07:46.39 | Xinhuan | and the liscense if any |
| 07:46.51 | Arrowmaster | meh my memory is perty fucked up anyway, everything seems like a long time ago now |
| 07:47.30 | falconindy | Anyone familiar with an API call to dismiss a companion? WoWWiki and wowprogramming don't mention anything |
| 07:47.44 | Arrowmaster | !api companion |
| 07:47.44 | lua_bot | Found 6 possible results for 'companion': DismissCompanion, GetNumCompanions, GetCompanionInfo, PickupCompanion, GetCompanionCooldown, CallCompanion |
| 07:47.54 | falconindy | brilliant... |
| 07:47.57 | Arrowmaster | !api dismisscompanion |
| 07:47.57 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'DismissCompanion' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/DismissCompanion |
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| 07:48.17 | falconindy | not yet doc'd... prolly easy enough to figure out |
| 07:48.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah.... |
| 07:48.39 | Arrowmaster | DismissCompanion() |
| 07:48.45 | Arrowmaster | thats probably all there is to it |
| 07:48.54 | falconindy | more than likely, thanks. always forget about the bots in here |
| 07:49.12 | Xinhuan | nah you can DismissCompanion("MOUNT"|"CRITTER") i think |
| 07:49.15 | eblume | knowing blizz, it's probably DismissCompanion("PLAYER_COMPANION") and only works when you're standing outside of the Org bank. |
| 07:49.18 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 07:49.22 | eblume | Hah. |
| 07:49.27 | eblume | I *knew* it. |
| 07:49.32 | falconindy | ahhh so i need to specify critter |
| 07:49.42 | Xinhuan | if i remember correctly, DC("MOUNT") doesn't work on the HHM mount |
| 07:49.45 | Xinhuan | but works on all other mounts |
| 07:49.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 07:49.59 | Xinhuan | there was a forum post about it |
| 07:50.00 | Xinhuan | on UI forums |
| 07:50.15 | Xinhuan | and he'slike "do these special morphing mounts act special" |
| 07:50.16 | eblume | Did I call it or what? |
| 07:50.28 | tlund | how do i find out what the svn URL for, for example FuBar_TopScoreFu, is? |
| 07:50.50 | tlund | how can i see what branches exist and such? |
| 07:50.51 | eblume | it has none. |
| 07:50.56 | eblume | You'll need to use git. |
| 07:51.08 | tlund | ah, ok |
| 07:51.17 | tlund | well, for some random addon that DOES use svn then? :) |
| 07:51.37 | Arrowmaster | pick a random addon on wowace |
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| 07:51.41 | Arrowmaster | it probably uses svn |
| 07:51.47 | tlund | OneBag3 looks like SVN |
| 07:51.49 | eblume | Go to the web page of that project, go to Repositories, copy/paste. |
| 07:51.59 | Arrowmaster | onebag3 is hg |
| 07:52.02 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 07:52.13 | Groktar | i need some advice. i redid the buttons for my guild's website, and i think i may have made the text on some a bit small. specifically the profile/priv. msg/e-mail buttons at the button of each post |
| 07:52.14 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3292 |
| 07:52.19 | Groktar | what do you think? |
| 07:52.25 | tlund | yeah, well, "Repositories" was the answer i was looking for. dont know how i missed that link :) |
| 07:53.02 | eblume | Groktar, looks fine to me. |
| 07:53.06 | Groktar | kk |
| 07:53.09 | Groktar | wasn't sure |
| 07:53.22 | eblume | Groktar: you might consider putting in a grey shadow |
| 07:53.25 | eblume | maybe |
| 07:53.25 | Yssaril | Groktar: that is a tad to small |
| 07:53.44 | Groktar | a shadow on the words? or the button |
| 07:54.04 | Groktar | i think they look really clean the way they are now |
| 07:54.23 | Yssaril | also where it says Author and Message the gry bar above it shouldn't touch the text it just doesnt look right imo |
| 07:54.43 | Groktar | hmm |
| 07:54.50 | Groktar | i never noticed that |
| 07:54.52 | Groktar | but i think you're right |
| 07:55.23 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r24 / (2 files in 1 directory): Utopia: Fix occasional glitch with SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE. |
| 07:56.27 | Yssaril | Groktar: rule of thumb if you make artwork and antialias the text you shoul have at least a one pixle line of the character that is the color you want |
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| 07:57.20 | Yssaril | right now if you look at the 'e' for profile its only a character if you know what it is take it by itself and its a bunch of pixels that could mean anything |
| 07:57.38 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net/images/icon_contact_www_copy.gif |
| 07:57.40 | Groktar | better? |
| 07:58.55 | Yssaril | Groktar: put some lower case characters in and see if they are fine |
| 07:59.03 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net/images/icon_contact_profile_copy.gif |
| 07:59.18 | Groktar | the e is funny |
| 07:59.49 | doom0r | Groktar: that thriller acapella is phenomenal except for the fact that he imitates singing at higher octaves instead of trying to really do it =\ |
| 07:59.55 | Yssaril | yea but i can tell its an e :P |
| 08:00.31 | Groktar | www.guild-impulse.net/images/icon_contact_profile_copy2.gif |
| 08:00.40 | Groktar | too big? |
| 08:01.06 | Groktar | maybe just right |
| 08:02.01 | Yssaril | looks good now add it to the forums and make sure it jives with the rest |
| 08:02.44 | Groktar | kk |
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| 08:09.44 | Zhinjio | Elkano: ping |
| 08:10.06 | Groktar | done |
| 08:10.08 | Groktar | how's that? |
| 08:11.52 | Groktar | hmm |
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| 08:16.29 | Repo | 10socialist: 03eblume * r44 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 08:16.30 | Repo | Socialist: |
| 08:16.31 | Repo | - Minor changes to logo |
| 08:16.32 | Repo | - XML errors fix |
| 08:16.35 | Repo | - MAJOR implementation of result display. |
| 08:17.14 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1721 DefaultFrame/AtlaslootDefaultFrame.xml: Made the loot browser background less intrusive |
| 08:17.21 | magma | mmm ... where can I submit a bug fix for Quartz? |
| 08:18.31 | Zhinjio | magma: the best path is to create a clone of quartz's repository, commit your fix, and let the author know that your fix is available in the clone/branch for them to merge in |
| 08:18.35 | Groktar | i made it blue |
| 08:18.41 | magma | I see |
| 08:19.24 | magma | where can I find quartz's repo? |
| 08:19.32 | magma | on curse? or wowinterface? |
| 08:19.34 | Zhinjio | www.wowace.com, search for the project |
| 08:19.37 | doom0r | @project quartz |
| 08:19.37 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/quartz/. Quartz. Game: WoW. Leader: Nymbia. Updated: 13 days ago. Tickets: 7/7 |
| 08:19.41 | doom0r | there's a link on the side |
| 08:19.47 | magma | oh, thanks |
| 08:20.07 | Zhinjio | anyone else have major EBB fu? I switched my bars to "grow up" and now they aren't attached anymore. |
| 08:20.12 | Zhinjio | I can't find a way to reattach them |
| 08:20.14 | magma | looks like that's a svn repo |
| 08:20.52 | magma | so I can't "clone" that per-se, like I could with git |
| 08:21.31 | Xinhuan | you can "SVN checkout..." |
| 08:21.38 | Xinhuan | which is "sort of" a clone |
| 08:21.43 | vithos | Zhinjio: i don't use it anymore, but i think if the anchors aren't showing, they won't attach to each other |
| 08:21.44 | magma | of course ... but I can't commit |
| 08:21.55 | Zhinjio | vithos: I have them all visible at the moment |
| 08:22.01 | Xinhuan | you can magma |
| 08:22.04 | vithos | ah, no idea then |
| 08:22.05 | Xinhuan | because the repo is open |
| 08:22.10 | Zhinjio | GAH! |
| 08:22.15 | Zhinjio | I just got them to reattached |
| 08:22.16 | magma | wow |
| 08:22.17 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 08:22.27 | Xinhuan | you need to use the "development URL" though |
| 08:22.31 | Xinhuan | not the "public URL" |
| 08:22.44 | magma | I don't need a dev account or anything? |
| 08:22.54 | Xinhuan | you can probably create one in 1 minute |
| 08:22.58 | Xinhuan | by registering on wowace |
| 08:23.02 | magma | k, on it |
| 08:23.14 | Xinhuan | (yes, its a security issue) |
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| 08:24.13 | Fisker- | Work is work Xinhuan |
| 08:24.16 | magma | well yeah, I'd hope that not just anyone could commit to that repository. |
| 08:24.50 | Xinhuan | as it is, anyone can commit to any damn repo right now, unless the project leader closed access |
| 08:25.28 | Xinhuan | so we're keeping a pretty close eye on every commit right now as it is |
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| 08:26.12 | Repo | 10xperl: 03dhedbor * r231 XPerl_Player/XPerl_Player.lua: Fixed player frame positioning issue. |
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| 08:28.15 | doom0r | is it possible to make a macro that attempts to target many mobs in an order? or does it fail after one fails? |
| 08:28.40 | Jaxon | No. |
| 08:28.47 | Xinhuan | they target in order |
| 08:28.53 | Xinhuan | the last successful one wins |
| 08:28.56 | Jaxon | ^^ |
| 08:28.57 | doom0r | so, then yes |
| 08:29.10 | Jaxon | No, it doesn't fail after one fails. I got interrupted by the fishing bobber. |
| 08:29.18 | doom0r | ;x |
| 08:29.27 | doom0r | sweet, need to make one for bloody rare |
| 08:29.32 | Jaxon | I've got a rather long macro full of /targets...yeah |
| 08:29.39 | Jaxon | Just check the Medium Rare page on WoWHead |
| 08:29.41 | Jaxon | THere is already one there. |
| 08:29.54 | Xinhuan | cbf doing that one now |
| 08:29.59 | Xinhuan | do it when everyone is lvling to 80 ;p |
| 08:30.51 | doom0r | Jaxon: got it, thanks |
| 08:31.40 | Repo | 10fubar_speedfu: 03Arrowmaster * r48 / (8 files in 2 directories): Update for 3.0 |
| 08:32.07 | doom0r | using it is like a pretest for d3 |
| 08:33.12 | asmodai | morning |
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| 08:33.40 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: is there a way to get Omen to show some test bars for configuration purposes? |
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| 08:33.51 | magma | why is my username magma2? |
| 08:33.53 | Xinhuan | rightclick title bar |
| 08:33.58 | Xinhuan | click "test mode" |
| 08:34.03 | Xinhuan | or /omen config, click "test mode" |
| 08:34.11 | Zhinjio | danke |
| 08:34.30 | Xinhuan | i made it far better than omen2's test mode heh |
| 08:35.00 | Zhinjio | thats just how you roll |
| 08:35.12 | magma | I registered the username 'magma' back in september |
| 08:35.18 | magma | but I can't login to it |
| 08:35.29 | Xinhuan | you will need to ask kaelten to merge your 2 usernames into 1 |
| 08:35.34 | magma | ok |
| 08:35.49 | magma | thanks |
| 08:37.06 | asmodai | Xinhuan: seems Omen and SexyMap don't like each other much where it concerns the minimap button. Deselecting the option in Omen does not seem to make it disappear from the SexyMap display. I think it's because SexyMap takes over, but not 100% certain. Should it still function through Omen though, you think? (At least from the POLA --principle of least astonishment-- point of view it should I think) |
| 08:37.25 | Xinhuan | you will have to slap Antiarc for that one |
| 08:37.46 | Xinhuan | right now, omen can display up to 3 minimap buttons though |
| 08:37.51 | Xinhuan | so you might be turning off the wrong one ;p |
| 08:37.56 | Arrowmaster | thats probably the issue |
| 08:38.01 | Repo | 10compmaster: 03Turaka * r35 / (2 files in 1 directory): [fixed] Updated summon checks |
| 08:38.01 | Repo | [fixed] Problem still existed with option saves thru logging |
| 08:38.02 | Arrowmaster | remove the damn fubar one |
| 08:38.02 | Repo | [fixed] It should no longer be possible to have 2 pets at the same time. |
| 08:38.39 | Xinhuan | i opted to remove the ldbicon one when fubar/broker2fubar is present, its already commited |
| 08:39.01 | Zhinjio | asmodai: just set it to "Never" in sexymap |
| 08:39.08 | Arrowmaster | still too fucking confusing |
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| 08:40.32 | Xinhuan | i can also opt not to even register it on LDB if fubar is present |
| 08:40.32 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: it seems the "Heading BG color" doesn't do anything? Or am I missing something? |
| 08:40.47 | Xinhuan | you have to turn on "Use heading color" first |
| 08:40.55 | Xinhuan | and it probably isn't doing anything if the alpha is 0% |
| 08:41.10 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: if i just fucking stick broker2fubar into fubar will you remove it? |
| 08:41.12 | Xinhuan | i call that the "newb 0% alpha error" |
| 08:41.33 | Xinhuan | heh Arrowmaster |
| 08:41.35 | Zhinjio | I see "Show Headings" which is enabled. |
| 08:41.52 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 08:41.57 | Arrowmaster | would probably have to convert it to rock first for least trouble |
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| 08:42.42 | Xinhuan | should prob take over the whole fubar project, rewrite fubar4 |
| 08:42.48 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 08:42.50 | Zhinjio | it is, in fact, the newb 0% alpha error |
| 08:42.56 | Fisker- | i hate you packetloss! |
| 08:43.08 | Arrowmaster | so many things id like to write |
| 08:43.17 | Arrowmaster | but so little motavation |
| 08:43.41 | Xinhuan | seeing as you don't use fubar (right??) |
| 08:43.47 | Arrowmaster | i do actually |
| 08:44.01 | Arrowmaster | no motavation to switch right now |
| 08:44.01 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 08:44.09 | Elkano | Zhinjio: pong? |
| 08:44.16 | Zhinjio | Elkano: nm, I figured it out. |
| 08:44.38 | Elkano | kk ^^ |
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| 08:46.43 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 08:48.05 | Fisker- | assaults mitch0 |
| 08:48.52 | Groktar | assaults mitch0, too |
| 08:50.03 | mitch0 | hm |
| 08:50.28 | Groktar | what did you do to Fisker- to make him hate you so? |
| 08:50.43 | Groktar | comforts Fisker- |
| 08:51.15 | Fisker- | i need internets |
| 08:51.27 | Fisker- | without it i can't use the internets |
| 08:51.40 | Groktar | clearly you have working internets |
| 08:51.51 | Fisker- | working internets? No |
| 08:51.52 | asmodai | Zhinjio: Yeah |
| 08:51.55 | Fisker- | But i do have internets |
| 08:52.03 | Fisker- | with a ~50% packetloss |
| 08:52.04 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 08:52.09 | Groktar | o noes |
| 08:52.19 | asmodai | Zhinjio: Was just curious if there was some way to make 'm play nicer with each other. |
| 08:52.23 | Groktar | blames the packet loss on asmodai |
| 08:52.28 | asmodai | Groktar: Yes! |
| 08:52.38 | Groktar | kk, i think i need to go to bed |
| 08:52.39 | asmodai | I am l33t pakk1teer! |
| 08:52.47 | Groktar | supposed to take my mom to the airport at 5am |
| 08:52.50 | Groktar | and it's already 1am |
| 08:52.58 | Groktar | night muffins |
| 08:53.02 | asmodai | Had a funny one with the Big Wigs minimap icon |
| 08:53.10 | asmodai | was dragging it and it never released to attach |
| 08:53.25 | asmodai | so no matter where I moved my mouse the minimap icon kept rotating around the minimap >< |
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| 08:54.10 | Groktar | night |
| 08:55.01 | Fisker- | QQ |
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| 09:00.43 | doom0r | is qh any use in finding quests? or would simply everyquest be better? |
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| 09:03.07 | neenee | Finding quests? Just use your Low Level Quests tracker from the default interface. |
| 09:03.53 | Fisker- | and if i refuse? |
| 09:04.36 | neenee | Well, I was replying to doom0r, not you :) |
| 09:04.47 | neenee | So refuse to whatever you wish :) |
| 09:04.48 | Fisker- | I'm still refusing |
| 09:05.07 | doom0r | neenee: i mean through a list system |
| 09:05.07 | JY` | you're refusing to refuse ? |
| 09:05.28 | neenee | Ah, I see. Search through the quests you have accepted? |
| 09:05.32 | doom0r | i.e. missing 300 some kalimdor quests, so i might as well keep some track |
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| 09:06.06 | doom0r | no, just keep track of ones i end up doing so when i get tot he end, i only have to search through 300, not 700 |
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| 09:06.25 | digmouse | what the bloody hell happened to PitBull? |
| 09:06.32 | neenee | Oh, I see. There was an addon which recorded which you had done, but that would require you to run the addon from the beginning - from when you started doing quests, as there's no way to retrieve a list from the server of what you did already |
| 09:06.46 | doom0r | that i know |
| 09:06.50 | doom0r | everyquest |
| 09:06.51 | Fisker- | just make 700 gm tickets |
| 09:07.04 | doom0r | just wondering if qh has a list like system also, such as everyquest |
| 09:07.11 | neenee | I doubt it |
| 09:07.16 | neenee | bbs. |
| 09:07.54 | Fisker- | i hate incompetence so very much ;_; |
| 09:09.37 | doom0r | Fisker-: I don't like leaving the house either. |
| 09:10.58 | digmouse | someone totally deleted Pitbull on some commits and then commit them back |
| 09:11.01 | digmouse | any idea? |
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| 09:11.45 | Zhinjio | now I just need to figure out what to do with my unit frames. |
| 09:11.49 | Zhinjio | I hate this part |
| 09:12.31 | doom0r | you mean, where? or what will be? |
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| 09:12.54 | Hell-Razor | im still looking of a way to make my shit smaller and use less space |
| 09:13.09 | Tigerdyr | zip? |
| 09:13.09 | doom0r | use two bars |
| 09:13.19 | doom0r | use a hud |
| 09:13.49 | doom0r | i can give uglier suggestions if needed |
| 09:14.06 | Zhinjio | well, I'll be using pitbull, but yeah, where and what they look like |
| 09:14.07 | Elkano | hmpf.. latest fortress started bugging the tooltips of the LDB objects :/ |
| 09:14.46 | digmouse | ~seen shefki |
| 09:14.47 | purl | shefki is currently on #wowace (18d 9h 49m 57s) #curseforge (18d 9h 49m 57s). Has said a total of 912 messages. Is idling for 3h 14m 27s, last said: 'I typed that before he said that. Just was showing him how to do what he was asking for.'. |
| 09:14.54 | Hell-Razor | doom0r, |
| 09:14.57 | Hell-Razor | doom0r, uglier? |
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| 09:15.51 | doom0r | color changing text blocks, color coded frames, take a frame of something else and make it transparent while using a bar behind it |
| 09:15.54 | doom0r | yes, uglier |
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| 09:17.44 | Shefki | digmouse: ? |
| 09:18.05 | digmouse | shefki: you should take a look on pitbull's commit log |
| 09:18.27 | Hell-Razor | http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot110208220800ds7.jpg <-- my ui atm |
| 09:18.58 | doom0r | Hell-Razor: WTS Info |
| 09:19.22 | Shefki | digmouse: Great. |
| 09:19.39 | digmouse | no changes, just delete and commit |
| 09:19.42 | Hell-Razor | doom0r, so what you have my char name...no biggie theres a thousand of them |
| 09:19.55 | doom0r | .... |
| 09:20.02 | doom0r | no, info on the screen |
| 09:20.13 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: oh god, what did they do to your chat font |
| 09:20.24 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, ive never chagne it |
| 09:20.25 | Hell-Razor | err |
| 09:20.29 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, ive never changed it |
| 09:20.32 | Gnarfoz | looks like you disabled AA on it |
| 09:20.37 | Shefki | Can some admit please block Viktor3b from touching stuff on wowace. |
| 09:20.40 | Gnarfoz | like, with prat or something. |
| 09:20.40 | Shefki | He's misbehaving. |
| 09:20.45 | Shefki | admin* |
| 09:21.07 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, how do i fix that? |
| 09:21.17 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: you... re-enable it? :D |
| 09:21.36 | Hell-Razor | lol |
| 09:21.41 | mitch0 | shefki: ? |
| 09:21.42 | Hell-Razor | i didnt DISable anything.. |
| 09:22.05 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: he hasnt touched anything in a while |
| 09:22.14 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: haha you should look at this, then: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pit-bull/files/1141-r1856/ xD |
| 09:22.17 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Look at Pitbull |
| 09:22.23 | Gnarfoz | that's like... 200 revs at least |
| 09:22.43 | Gnarfoz | actually, more like 150, but WHAT THE HELL |
| 09:22.43 | Arrowmaster | wth |
| 09:22.51 | Arrowmaster | why is the bot not showing that |
| 09:22.58 | Shefki | No commit message. |
| 09:23.03 | Shefki | So bot didn't say anything. |
| 09:23.04 | Arrowmaster | WTH |
| 09:23.09 | Arrowmaster | thats suppost to be blocked |
| 09:23.14 | Hell-Razor | any suggestions on my ui? |
| 09:23.44 | doom0r | add stuff |
| 09:23.45 | doom0r | anything |
| 09:23.47 | doom0r | ftlog |
| 09:23.53 | doom0r | =D |
| 09:23.57 | Arrowmaster | closed the repo |
| 09:24.07 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: well, it certainly looks like you did, even if unintentionally ;> do you use prat-3.0? |
| 09:24.08 | Hell-Razor | ftlog? |
| 09:24.14 | Shefki | Guess that'll do for now. |
| 09:24.26 | doom0r | for the love of god |
| 09:24.38 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, yes |
| 09:24.46 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, oh i disabled the outline is that what youre talking about? |
| 09:24.55 | Gnarfoz | no, not outline, it's a different option |
| 09:25.01 | Gnarfoz | should be called anti-aliasing |
| 09:25.07 | Hell-Razor | hrmm |
| 09:25.12 | Hell-Razor | oh where oh were did the aa go |
| 09:25.45 | Gnarfoz | the font edges are all crude and jaggy ^^ |
| 09:26.11 | thul | ANTIALIAZ |
| 09:26.17 | Hell-Razor | MEH |
| 09:26.19 | Hell-Razor | oops |
| 09:26.19 | Hell-Razor | meh |
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| 09:29.13 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, just looked through it and dont see it |
| 09:29.32 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: hmm, I'll get back to you when I'm logged in |
| 09:30.22 | Fisker- | i need internets ;_; |
| 09:31.03 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: i changed his svn password =D |
| 09:31.36 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you has, obviously? |
| 09:31.57 | Fisker- | BETTAR internets |
| 09:32.16 | Fisker- | I need to play world of warcraft before i die |
| 09:32.17 | Gnarfoz | yes, I want better internets, too. |
| 09:32.17 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 09:32.24 | Gnarfoz | how's that related :O |
| 09:32.36 | neenee | Back |
| 09:32.55 | Fisker- | no internets no wow |
| 09:32.57 | neenee | reads laptop reviews and searches for a compact wow-capable laptop |
| 09:33.02 | Fisker- | no wow no survival |
| 09:33.03 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 09:33.31 | neenee | plays a bit of Fallout 3 |
| 09:33.49 | mitch0 | neenee: try nethack ;) |
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| 09:33.57 | Fisker- | Fallout 3 is bugged ;_; |
| 09:34.24 | asmodai | muaaha |
| 09:34.34 | Arrowmaster | nethack =D |
| 09:34.46 | Arrowmaster | i got so addicted to that for a while |
| 09:34.48 | Zhinjio | Victor3b must be on crack |
| 09:34.55 | neenee | mitch0: nah, not now :) |
| 09:35.55 | Arrowmaster | you know something tells me that localizers should atleast be able to understand the english language well to be able to properly localize stuff but somehow that doesnt seem to be true |
| 09:36.01 | Gnarfoz | ~seen phyber |
| 09:36.03 | purl | phyber is currently on #wowuidev (16d 22h 17m 47s) #wowace (16d 22h 17m 47s) #curseforge (16d 22h 17m 47s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 3d 18h 4m 28s, last said: 'hey, don't shit talk darnassus. they have a mailbox at the bank now.'. |
| 09:36.39 | Gnarfoz | phyber: ping :p |
| 09:36.47 | Hell-Razor | i know i asked before but i forgot and didnt try it but what adds skins to dominos bars to make it all pretty |
| 09:37.34 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: ButtonFacade |
| 09:38.08 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: I love seeing the remains of my previous players :) |
| 09:38.18 | Nayala | Just looked through the effective changes 1768-1856. First thing I noticed is that PitBull.toc version field got changed from @project-version@ to r1768. Also looks like the Layouts, modules, media, and PitBull_HappinessIcon all seemed to be missing. Oh and looks like whitespace changes on everline. My guessing is end of lines. |
| 09:38.40 | Gnarfoz | eol should be forced to native |
| 09:38.54 | Gnarfoz | and he moved the modules |
| 09:38.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah that hook is missing right now |
| 09:39.25 | Nayala | He removed and re-added the files so properties on them probably got lost also. |
| 09:39.29 | Gnarfoz | regardless, the worst thing he did is that he practically killed the history for almost all files :p |
| 09:39.50 | phyber | Gnarfoz: hey. |
| 09:39.54 | Gnarfoz | whoot |
| 09:40.44 | doom0r | hmmm, tomtom could use a separate font sizing option for the text block below the arrow |
| 09:40.44 | Gnarfoz | phyber: the readme says ckk wrote it and you just maintain it, but: do you know what the hook on line 662 of MoneyFu.lua is good for? |
| 09:40.52 | phyber | looks |
| 09:40.56 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, any other suggestions? |
| 09:41.01 | Hell-Razor | anybody here good at autobar? |
| 09:41.07 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, like to make my ui look better |
| 09:41.19 | Gnarfoz | Hell-Razor: nah, I don't do suggestions really, that just stood out like a sore thumb ;> |
| 09:41.29 | phyber | Gnarfoz: I think that line runs the original function, just incase anything else hooks it too. |
| 09:42.08 | phyber | if you take it out, the frame should fail to open. |
| 09:42.10 | Shefki | There's a simple solution. |
| 09:42.20 | Hell-Razor | Gnarfoz, lol well lemme know as soon as you get on |
| 09:42.21 | Gnarfoz | phyber: oh, right, I overlooked "self:Hook("OpenCoinPickupFrame", true)" further up in the file |
| 09:42.22 | asmodai | Cute, my current, and soon to be ex, employer is now a pending sponsor member of the Python foundation. |
| 09:42.25 | phyber | Gnarfoz: :) |
| 09:42.35 | Shefki | Take down the repo. Dump it up to his changes. And reload it. |
| 09:42.47 | phyber | Gnarfoz: hacking something into it? |
| 09:42.51 | Shefki | To avoid there being problems put in empty revs for his changes. |
| 09:43.06 | Shefki | That will fix the history. |
| 09:43.11 | kimurin | can admins see user commint in all projects? |
| 09:43.50 | Gnarfoz | phyber: stealing from it, rather. ;> I use Auditor for my money tracking nowadays and it has it's own fubar plugin... that doesn't have anything :OnClick yet. I'd like it to do the same as MoneyFu does (popup the CoinPickupFrame) :)) |
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| 09:44.07 | phyber | ah, cool. |
| 09:44.16 | Nayala | Surprised svn doesn't allow something like a copy of a specific revision to head. |
| 09:44.18 | Gnarfoz | kimurin: everyone can, really. I don't think there's a setting to make repos unreadable unless you have access |
| 09:44.31 | phyber | tbh, I've never used those Money Pickup Frames, ever. What do you use it for? |
| 09:44.32 | Gnarfoz | Nayala: sure it does, that's how you revert |
| 09:44.42 | phyber | selecting a money amount aod dropping it onto someone in the world to trade them? |
| 09:44.46 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 09:44.51 | Gnarfoz | that's about the only use it has, really |
| 09:44.54 | Arrowmaster | i fucking hate svn merge |
| 09:45.03 | Arrowmaster | the help gives no fucking help |
| 09:45.08 | Gnarfoz | halp! |
| 09:45.20 | Wobin | that's why I use hg =P |
| 09:45.26 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Are you trying to undo his changes to PitBull? |
| 09:45.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:45.41 | Shefki | Don't. I'll fix it. |
| 09:45.56 | Arrowmaster | using svn merge? |
| 09:46.04 | Shefki | I'll just copy the rev we were at back to trunk. |
| 09:46.09 | Arrowmaster | dont |
| 09:46.19 | digmouse | Arrowmaster>you know something tells me that localizers should atleast be able to understand the english language well to be able to properly localize stuff but somehow that doesnt seem to be true <-- agree |
| 09:46.20 | Shefki | Then tomorrow I'll bug ckknight to fix it properly which is to dump his crap out of the repo. |
| 09:46.24 | Gnarfoz | phyber: I just sometimes do it when I'm waiting for someone I want to trade ;D I really just don't want to stop being able to get to that frame, because the normal way to get to it is through the bags. And AFAIK clicking the money line in Bagnon doesn't duplicate that behaviour ^^ |
| 09:46.37 | Arrowmaster | dont do that |
| 09:46.43 | Groktar | pounces Gnarfoz |
| 09:46.58 | Gnarfoz | steals Groktar's breakfast |
| 09:47.09 | digmouse | Arrowmaster: I remember it was I who told you that :D |
| 09:47.09 | Fisker- | internets have arrive |
| 09:47.11 | Fisker- | d |
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| 09:47.23 | doom0r | hmmm, there any way to add a quest/find npc starting a quest in QH to get it to point me to that person? |
| 09:47.27 | Shefki | If you just merge it out then blame is going to be incredibly useless. |
| 09:47.28 | mitch0 | damn, nethack is deep |
| 09:47.37 | Arrowmaster | meh |
| 09:48.03 | Arrowmaster | removing them with a dump filter is the only way i guess |
| 09:48.08 | Arrowmaster | just dont touch it for now i guess |
| 09:48.08 | Groktar | gives Fisker- some fresh packet loss |
| 09:48.26 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: You don't have to use a dump filter. Just dump up to his rev. It's easy to add empty revs. |
| 09:48.40 | Arrowmaster | or that |
| 09:48.49 | Arrowmaster | or better yet |
| 09:48.51 | Shefki | If it was just my project I wouldn't even add empty revs but it would hose anyones wc that was updated. |
| 09:48.54 | Arrowmaster | just convert it to git |
| 09:49.12 | digmouse | why not just delete everything in the repo and commit them back yourself |
| 09:49.22 | Gnarfoz | digmouse: that's about as bad as what he did. |
| 09:49.41 | digmouse | *shrugs* so get back to git |
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| 09:50.07 | Gnarfoz | won't moving to git also mean no history? |
| 09:50.11 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:50.19 | digmouse | no I think |
| 09:50.29 | Arrowmaster | importing history is easy |
| 09:50.33 | Wobin | no you can import |
| 09:51.00 | Fisker- | ohgnoes |
| 09:51.21 | Gnarfoz | anyway, IRC channels should have support for those medieval cages that hung in front of city gates, where criminals etc. got locked in to starve to death. |
| 09:51.52 | Shefki | Actually I'd be satisifed with a device that lets you punch someone through the internet. |
| 09:52.02 | Shefki | Required hardware for everyone of course. |
| 09:52.04 | Arrowmaster | stab not punch |
| 09:52.30 | Gnarfoz | bash #1 quote yay |
| 09:52.45 | Arrowmaster | thats still #1? |
| 09:52.50 | Groktar | /me demonstrates his stabbing technique on Arrowmaster |
| 09:52.55 | Gnarfoz | no, it's actually not |
| 09:52.57 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: think so yea |
| 09:52.58 | Gnarfoz | it's at #3 |
| 09:53.02 | asmodai | *gasp* |
| 09:53.04 | asmodai | it fell?! |
| 09:53.23 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 09:53.30 | Arrowmaster | 1 and 2 are classics too |
| 09:54.01 | Gnarfoz | I like #4 |
| 09:54.01 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 09:54.27 | Arrowmaster | lol i still have the link to http://bash.org/?122713 set as an on channel join message from a bot in a private channel of mine |
| 09:55.40 | asmodai | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/10/31/ rofl |
| 09:56.03 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Wow that's good. |
| 09:56.13 | Arrowmaster | asmodai: omg |
| 09:56.45 | asmodai | it's a good month for releases |
| 09:56.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 09:57.14 | Shefki | I wonder how long until someone writes an app/addon that syncs google cal to the came calendar. |
| 09:57.24 | asmodai | owwww |
| 09:57.29 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 09:57.43 | asmodai | That'd be funny. :) |
| 09:57.54 | Arrowmaster | you can already publish google cal and others can add your cal to theirs |
| 09:58.09 | Nayala | Why not just a generic .ical syncher which should work with google and others? |
| 09:58.11 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I mean the Blizzard calendar. |
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| 09:58.21 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 09:58.49 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt be too hard actually |
| 09:58.54 | Xuerian | Haha, I like the line that starts on 13th for gabe |
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| 09:59.21 | Xuerian | You see this big slash along the next two weeks and beyond... |
| 09:59.23 | Hell-Razor | hrmmm |
| 09:59.29 | Hell-Razor | anybody know of a good place to dot farm? |
| 09:59.45 | Tamaroth | rolling for loot, when group loot is active, fires up CHAT_MSG_LOOT or CHAT_MSG_ROLL ? |
| 10:00.06 | Xuerian | Tamaroth: Look in SpecialEvents-Loot |
| 10:00.11 | Xuerian | Parses it all >_> |
| 10:00.17 | Tamaroth | i tried :) |
| 10:00.22 | Xuerian | Oh, well I dun remember then |
| 10:00.26 | Xuerian | I wrote it and forgot it :p |
| 10:00.51 | asmodai | the current calendar is a fail for raiding :( |
| 10:01.14 | Xuerian | Better than before, but still fail |
| 10:01.20 | Shefki | Lack of comments? |
| 10:01.23 | Xuerian | Anyone running windows 7? >_> |
| 10:02.02 | Nayala | Biggest issue I see is break down by class instead of role. |
| 10:02.17 | Shefki | Ahh yeah. |
| 10:02.32 | Tamaroth | Xuerian: i don't see any CHAT_MSG_ROLL, only LOOT :) |
| 10:02.39 | Tamaroth | so prolly LOOT one :) |
| 10:02.50 | Xuerian | Tamaroth: I think roll is /roll |
| 10:03.02 | Tamaroth | but SpecialEvents-Loot is really confusing to read :) |
| 10:03.09 | Xuerian | yeah, it is a little awkward... |
| 10:03.10 | Tamaroth | Xuerian: apparently |
| 10:03.45 | Tamaroth | i don't even know how you recognize how someone greeded/needed on item |
| 10:04.40 | Tamaroth | one line only :) |
| 10:05.02 | Xuerian | The handlers start at 154, and the other functions are built on top of them |
| 10:05.28 | Xuerian | Each line from 186-198 actually builds a specific function to handle those events |
| 10:06.06 | Tamaroth | yeah, i'm trying to reverse engineer it :) |
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| 10:06.44 | Tamaroth | because i don't want to use it whole lib, just need basic idea how to recognize when someone passes |
| 10:06.57 | asmodai | as my GM said: |
| 10:07.11 | asmodai | this 'convenient' way of signing only benefits those who are online at the time of the raid. If I post a raid and 15 members are online at that time, the raid gets filled. Those who have work or school or are out, have little or no chance of getting to join the raid. |
| 10:07.37 | Xuerian | You need LOOT_ROLL_PASSED* and LOOT_ROLL_ALL_PASSED |
| 10:07.55 | Grum | asmodai: best i've seen work is just get everyone online |
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| 10:08.03 | Grum | and build the raid as you go closer to raidstart |
| 10:08.17 | asmodai | Grum: We also do that, right now we use some php raider app |
| 10:08.21 | asmodai | but it's pissing me off |
| 10:08.34 | asmodai | so gonna write some replacement application that's a bit nicer to use overal. |
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| 10:08.58 | Grum | its useless for the reason that you can easily lack people to raid |
| 10:09.01 | StabbyMcStabStab | /me locks asmodai in the tall tower |
| 10:09.09 | asmodai | StabbyMcStabStab: Oh noes, waai!? |
| 10:09.21 | Shefki | asmodai: You realize you can signup on the armory website? |
| 10:09.26 | asmodai | Grum: in-game is easier though, still trying to see if I can get people to move to GroupCalendar. |
| 10:09.29 | asmodai | Shefki: Yes. |
| 10:09.45 | Grum | asmodai: 'signing' for something in a raiding guild is redundant |
| 10:09.54 | asmodai | Shefki: Trust me, I try to convince people of alternatives. :) |
| 10:09.54 | Repo | 10talented_data: 03jerry * r160 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update koKR. |
| 10:09.54 | Repo | Update pet dataminer. |
| 10:10.00 | Tamaroth | Xuerian: but that's only with lib, right ? |
| 10:10.03 | asmodai | Grum: we're not exactly a hard core raiding guild ;) |
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| 10:10.16 | asmodai | Although we do regular raids a few days a week |
| 10:10.26 | Grum | with regular people? |
| 10:10.43 | asmodai | Grum: a mix of casual and more hard core raiding folks |
| 10:10.53 | Xuerian | Tamaroth: No, the lib would pass you the events simply. Open globalstrings.lua (I think?) and find those patterns (They're formatting patterns), inverse them (Ask here how to do it, I'm going to bed), and match them against the events you get |
| 10:11.05 | Xuerian | Those are globals to put that paragraph simply |
| 10:11.06 | asmodai | to wowarmory, please update, k thx? |
| 10:11.15 | Xuerian | passes out |
| 10:12.17 | Grum | asmodai: welcome to a world of pain |
| 10:12.25 | Tamaroth | Xuerian: thanks |
| 10:12.27 | asmodai | Grum: *grin* |
| 10:12.54 | asmodai | Grum: 't Is, but thankfully we're quite a nice guild, the more die hard ones pull the others along and get them to be better raiders. |
| 10:13.02 | asmodai | And they're eager to learn. |
| 10:13.09 | Grum | planners wont work if the people not 'confirmed' do not go online to play at all |
| 10:13.33 | asmodai | Grum: We generally have enough people online to fill in any people who are absent due to circumstances. |
| 10:13.39 | asmodai | We accept real life(tm). |
| 10:13.51 | Grum | yeah; confirmed people not coming always was a pain |
| 10:14.17 | asmodai | In that sense I think Blizzard's direction makes sense. |
| 10:14.40 | asmodai | Since you will be able to bring other people along more easily. |
| 10:14.41 | Arrowmaster | vZerda: dont do that |
| 10:14.48 | asmodai | Rather than specific warlocks, mages, shaman, etc. |
| 10:15.03 | Grum | yeah i love the class-stacking to be gone |
| 10:15.13 | Grum | not 100%; but mostly at least :) |
| 10:15.17 | winkiller | it was paladinstacking for a while |
| 10:15.27 | winkiller | 4 prot pallies, 4 ret pallies, steamroll BT |
| 10:15.27 | winkiller | :P |
| 10:15.51 | Grum | ret in pre 3.0.x? |
| 10:16.05 | asmodai | haha |
| 10:16.07 | Grum | laughable :) |
| 10:16.22 | vZerda | sorry |
| 10:16.45 | Grum | rt was online cool in 3.0.2 .. 2.4.3 .. haha ... 3.0.3 .. mruahahah |
| 10:16.58 | Grum | *ret :'( |
| 10:18.13 | asmodai | I started with a paladin in 1.8 or so. Man, that was painful. |
| 10:18.22 | asmodai | Especially with the judgement refresh bug back then. |
| 10:19.25 | Grum | and its easier to steamroll BT/MH with proper aoe-classes :P |
| 10:20.39 | StabbyMcStabStab | ie balance druids. |
| 10:20.47 | many | whats with me |
| 10:21.00 | asmodai | rofl: WoW: Wrath of the Lich King, LotRO: Rise of the Witch-King |
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| 10:21.02 | many | ah. hurrican is nice, but 2k mana |
| 10:21.04 | many | uhu |
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| 10:22.33 | Hessen | vZerda hello? |
| 10:22.53 | StabbyMcStabStab | turns Hessen into a lizard |
| 10:23.06 | vZerda | Hessen hi |
| 10:23.11 | Hessen | :( |
| 10:23.17 | Hessen | vZerda you ping? |
| 10:23.46 | vZerda | Hessen: sorry , my mistake |
| 10:23.58 | Repo | 10talented: 03Swix * r333 Locales/ruRU.lua: Update ruRU |
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| 10:26.53 | doom0r | anyone know offhand if xbar works with macros? |
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| 10:28.21 | doom0r | nvm, further searching returns xcustombar |
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| 10:30.45 | doom0r | hmmm, no bf support yet |
| 10:31.35 | Tamaroth | hmm, will ha[sv][e]? match both 'has' and 'have' ? |
| 10:32.05 | Tamaroth | damn i hate regexp :< |
| 10:32.10 | StabbyMcStabStab | pounces Tamaroth |
| 10:32.19 | theoddone33 | it should |
| 10:32.31 | Megalon | Tamaroth: ha(s|ve) |
| 10:32.36 | theoddone33 | easy to test |
| 10:32.49 | doom0r | whenever i see pounces i always have to check back for name changes :X |
| 10:32.49 | Tamaroth | theoddone33: theoretically :) |
| 10:32.55 | Tamaroth | but i can't test anything atm |
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| 10:33.08 | Tamaroth | thanks Megalon |
| 10:33.19 | Megalon | yours would also match 'hase' and 'hav' |
| 10:34.36 | theoddone33 | I found a flaw in my do-it-yourself action bar solution |
| 10:34.54 | theoddone33 | marsbehavior literally pops up boxes that you type lua into and describe the behavior of your bars |
| 10:35.29 | theoddone33 | unfortunately my version doesn't page on stealth enter and leave the way I'd like |
| 10:35.36 | Arrowmaster | Megalon: in proper regex thats correct but lua doesnt support that syntax |
| 10:36.16 | Megalon | thought he wanted a regex and not a pattern :o |
| 10:40.36 | angelike | moin |
| 10:41.48 | Repo | 10cooldownbuttons: 03Netrox * r216 CooldownButtons.toc: added "ButtonFacade" to OptionalDeps |
| 10:42.55 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory): BossTactics: |
| 10:42.56 | Repo | - bugfix: wrong version compare if someone looses synchronization |
| 10:45.52 | Tamaroth | Megalon: uhm, pattern :) |
| 10:46.05 | Tamaroth | i thought it's same in lua, sorry :( |
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| 10:48.58 | sylvanaar_laptop | i want to go home so bad..im still stuck in toronto |
| 10:49.01 | doom0r | hmmm, wtf does rotation do on OPie? |
| 10:49.13 | doom0r | how come sylvanaar_laptop? |
| 10:49.23 | sylvanaar_laptop | work |
| 10:49.38 | doom0r | active? or layover? |
| 10:50.00 | doom0r | i.e. still stuff to do? |
| 10:51.46 | doom0r | i guess settings aren't immediate, rotation does what one thinks it should |
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| 10:53.25 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r34 RaidDebuffs/core.lua: Remove test data. |
| 10:53.26 | Repo | Reuse the spell table. |
| 10:53.57 | Repo | 10bt_sw: 03sorontur * r3 Locale-enUs.lua: little spelling bug for english clients |
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| 10:58.27 | Repo | 10barrel: 03copystring 04v0.1 repacked * r41 : |
| 10:58.28 | Repo | Tagging as v0.1 repacked (to grab latest libs, might solve some problems). |
| 11:00.03 | vhaarr | copystring: the problem with the barrel code is that it's shit, not that you have old libs |
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| 11:00.36 | vhaarr | copystring: first of all, you're saving frames to the db, what's up with that? |
| 11:01.22 | sylvanaar_laptop | doom0r yeah, i have stuff to do sorta...but I'm ready to go home nonetheless |
| 11:01.49 | sylvanaar_laptop | hi vhaarr long time no see |
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| 11:02.16 | vhaarr | I've been here the last week or two, thought I had fixed my computer now but yesterday it started crashing again |
| 11:02.28 | copystring | ahm, sorry im not a pro coder, im always open for suggestions but there is no need to get rude |
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| 11:02.36 | sylvanaar_laptop | vhaarr well, glad you're back |
| 11:02.40 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 11:05.08 | angelike | omg |
| 11:06.00 | angelike | somoe brought the plague to coldarra -.- |
| 11:06.41 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 11:07.00 | angelike | from the world event |
| 11:07.13 | angelike | from liveserver to betaserver |
| 11:07.13 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: omen is showing when I'm solo even with the "You are alone" box unchecked |
| 11:07.13 | KriLL3 | yes? |
| 11:07.19 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 11:07.27 | Fisker- | WAT |
| 11:07.29 | Fisker- | WAAAAAAAAAAAT |
| 11:07.33 | angelike | and here are no healers -.- |
| 11:07.55 | KriLL3 | round up some retardins, that's what they're supposed to be doing |
| 11:08.09 | durcyn | clever idea, copying with the debuff on |
| 11:08.11 | Fisker- | http://i34.tinypic.com/2dm8hzs.jpg <-wat the fail |
| 11:09.04 | Fisker- | Note: i'm running around in scourge invasion gear + a bit of badge gear + some healing gear :D |
| 11:09.53 | Megalon | Fisker-: gz, you can hit da HoW button real fast |
| 11:10.14 | Fisker- | wat? |
| 11:10.14 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 11:11.02 | Punkie | Fisker-: what fail, you talking about your UI? ;D |
| 11:11.28 | Fisker- | slaps Punkie around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:11.38 | Fisker- | i've been ret for a couple of hours :P |
| 11:13.07 | Fisker- | and i lulzed since people had less damage done than me |
| 11:13.11 | Fisker- | which should be impossible etc. |
| 11:13.42 | theoddone33 | I was terrible when I specced my paladin ret |
| 11:13.49 | theoddone33 | I didn't enjoy it at all |
| 11:13.50 | Fisker- | same |
| 11:13.52 | Megalon | oh you mean damage done |
| 11:14.03 | Megalon | then you are fast at hittin consecrate and ds |
| 11:14.04 | Punkie | then you learned to mash your buttons and it was great? |
| 11:14.04 | Megalon | :P |
| 11:14.14 | Fisker- | Retribution is kinda like Holy |
| 11:14.18 | theoddone33 | no I logged off and haven't played it since |
| 11:14.26 | Fisker- | except you don't have to click 10-40 little boxes |
| 11:14.43 | Fisker- | Also as holy you can atleast spamheal/cleanse yourself when attacked |
| 11:14.47 | Fisker- | when ret you're fucked :3 |
| 11:14.53 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 11:14.58 | theoddone33 | you get free flash heals but they do nothing |
| 11:15.04 | Fisker- | Of course i'm pretty much just a glass... well not even a cannon, just glass basicaly |
| 11:15.38 | Punkie | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/11/wcotd.jpg <-- obviously a great combination |
| 11:15.44 | Megalon | any pala can be a cannon with wings! |
| 11:15.47 | theoddone33 | I was pretty amused to learn that judging gave you 900 mana |
| 11:16.08 | Fisker- | my mana regen is quite good as well |
| 11:16.18 | Fisker- | Before i've expended it all on trying to kill people i get killed |
| 11:16.22 | Fisker- | and then i start off with full mana |
| 11:16.47 | Fisker- | anyways bai tiems |
| 11:16.51 | [SW]Dodge | Ackis: ping |
| 11:17.00 | theoddone33 | I just haven't wrapped my head around ret, seal twisting and skill rotations and such |
| 11:17.16 | theoddone33 | so I just walk up next to people and hit buttons as fast as I can |
| 11:17.20 | theoddone33 | but then they kill me first |
| 11:17.46 | StabbyMcStabStab | hides the manure in Fisker-'s bedroom |
| 11:18.23 | Megalon | seal twisting in pvp? walk up the player, stun, judge, cs, ds, how, done? :> |
| 11:19.12 | Repo | 10barrel: 03copystring * r42 Core.lua: Barrel: |
| 11:19.13 | Repo | - store frames in a local variable instead of in the db(drycoded) |
| 11:20.12 | vhaarr | so .. the achievement statistics -> Character -> Gear -> Legendary items acquired, apparently the kael'thas legedaries count, every time you loot them |
| 11:21.16 | sylvanaar_laptop | btw, has anyone made a shift click mod for the statistics page of the achievements? |
| 11:21.30 | sylvanaar_laptop | you know - to shift click the text into chat |
| 11:23.00 | theoddone33 | ooh that would be handy |
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| 11:23.10 | theoddone33 | I actually tried to do that today |
| 11:23.10 | sylvanaar_laptop | yah |
| 11:23.17 | theoddone33 | I figured the default UI would do it but... no |
| 11:23.18 | sylvanaar_laptop | i havent had time |
| 11:23.37 | sylvanaar_laptop | someone should do it |
| 11:23.45 | Groktar | sucks the life out of sylvanaar |
| 11:23.49 | sylvanaar_laptop | ok, the hotel breakfast place is open |
| 11:23.54 | sylvanaar_laptop | see ya |
| 11:24.28 | doom0r | there's achievement links for the statistics, but it just shows in progress |
| 11:24.31 | doom0r | no amount =\ |
| 11:25.07 | theoddone33 | for the statistics statistics |
| 11:25.12 | theoddone33 | "amount of gold looted" etc |
| 11:25.16 | doom0r | aye |
| 11:25.23 | doom0r | urban achiever can link them |
| 11:25.36 | doom0r | but the tooltip shows nothing for the amount |
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| 11:26.56 | doom0r | http://i35.tinypic.com/34t6d7c.jpg |
| 11:27.01 | doom0r | you can see it there |
| 11:27.45 | doom0r | should show 11 |
| 11:33.36 | Wobin | heh. looks like Tycho finished Fallout3 in 25 hours =P |
| 11:35.44 | asmodai | eh? |
| 11:35.59 | asmodai | Guess they make those games for casual gamers |
| 11:38.24 | GaiusBaltar | betrays you to the cylons |
| 11:39.51 | asmodai | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7702913.stm |
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| 11:41.51 | doom0r | lol asmodai |
| 11:42.44 | doom0r | http://www.boingboing.net/2008/07/15/chinese-restaurant-c.html |
| 11:42.47 | Hessen | Anyone got a suggestion on how to right-align the combat log? |
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| 11:43.08 | asmodai | doom0r: ah yes |
| 11:43.24 | asmodai | Seen that one |
| 11:44.31 | chexsum | so is wow down or is it just me? |
| 11:44.38 | asmodai | ~wowalert |
| 11:44.39 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
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| 11:44.54 | asmodai | Well, no notice at least |
| 11:44.58 | chexsum | Address Not Found |
| 11:45.00 | chexsum | meh |
| 11:45.11 | asmodai | chexsum: for? |
| 11:45.26 | chexsum | those urls |
| 11:45.39 | asmodai | work for me |
| 11:45.42 | asmodai | sure your DNS works? |
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| 11:52.35 | Groktar | pounces cncfanatics |
| 11:53.09 | Wobin | "As the Times article explained, the number 88 represents the phrase "Heil Hitler," because H is the eighth letter in the alphabet. White supremacists are also fond of the number 18 to represent the initials A.H." |
| 11:53.11 | Wobin | ... |
| 11:53.17 | Wobin | That has to be the worst reasoning ever =P |
| 11:53.39 | cncfanatics | slaps Groktar |
| 11:53.48 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 11:53.58 | Gnarfoz | that makes perfect sense |
| 11:54.11 | Gnarfoz | maybe not for you as an outsider, though |
| 11:54.40 | Wobin | pft, go put your hood on backwards |
| 11:54.41 | Gnarfoz | also, because that quote is in English, I wonder what/where/who it's referring to |
| 11:55.08 | Megalon | well |
| 11:55.09 | Gnarfoz | I'm not going to touch my car :X |
| 11:55.10 | Wobin | http://www.slate.com/id/2203347/ |
| 11:55.27 | asmodai | When it comes to chain mail, I'm the weakest link. |
| 11:55.32 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: hurrr |
| 11:55.57 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: well, I'd not think it would be that common in Tennessee oO |
| 11:56.09 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: I never forward \o/ |
| 11:56.44 | Gnarfoz | I've mostly heard about it being used in neo-nazi circles, which would mostly mean eastern Germany :X |
| 11:57.55 | Megalon | Wobin: 88 is quite standard for heil hitler ;) |
| 11:58.06 | Wobin | Yeah |
| 11:58.10 | Wobin | I'm just saying it's stupid =P |
| 11:58.23 | Torhal | Feh: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14573 |
| 11:58.25 | Gnarfoz | what I don't get however |
| 11:58.29 | Gnarfoz | why do they keep using it? |
| 11:58.35 | Gnarfoz | he's been dead for over 60 years, lol |
| 11:58.42 | Wobin | are they so scared of saying it out loud that they have to "disguise" it? |
| 11:58.51 | Gnarfoz | they better be scared |
| 11:58.55 | Wobin | "Oh noes WE'D BETTER SPEAK IN SECRET CODEZ" |
| 11:59.03 | Gnarfoz | it's illegal over here :P |
| 11:59.13 | Gnarfoz | but well, they're in Tennessee, so whatever |
| 11:59.21 | Wobin | saying "Heil Hitler" is illegal? |
| 11:59.30 | Megalon | yes |
| 11:59.36 | Megalon | in germany/austria |
| 12:00.03 | Gnarfoz | it's actually against the constitution (or the thing we have in place of a constitution) |
| 12:00.06 | Bruners | he is dead so why say it? |
| 12:00.14 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: my point exactly :| |
| 12:00.21 | Megalon | it gets you into "glorifying and identifying with the National Socialist" |
| 12:00.22 | Megalon | ;) |
| 12:00.32 | Tamaroth | same goes for sieg heil ? |
| 12:00.38 | Megalon | yes |
| 12:00.44 | Gnarfoz | and showing swastikas |
| 12:00.47 | Gnarfoz | *displaying |
| 12:01.06 | Megalon | for non-documental reasons that is |
| 12:01.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's the only exception, really |
| 12:01.36 | Wobin | interesting |
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| 12:01.47 | Wobin | unfortunately for them |
| 12:02.01 | Wobin | yelling "88!" doesn't quite have the same ring |
| 12:02.18 | Gnarfoz | omg 88! 88! \o \o |
| 12:02.20 | Wobin | instead it makes them sound like a Bingo caller |
| 12:02.21 | Bruners | salvation on hitler! 88! 10 4 |
| 12:02.38 | Megalon | noone yells 88 really :7 |
| 12:02.46 | Wobin | because it's dumb =P |
| 12:02.52 | Groktar | 88? |
| 12:03.00 | Gnarfoz | backlog, Groktar! |
| 12:03.08 | Groktar | oic |
| 12:03.16 | Gnarfoz | good boy. :) |
| 12:03.21 | Bruners | why did you start discussing this btw? |
| 12:03.33 | Fisker- | i heil a heiler |
| 12:03.35 | Gnarfoz | because of Wobin's quote |
| 12:03.50 | Megalon | cause wobin wondered why they connect 88 with nazis ;) |
| 12:04.02 | Wobin | Oh I knew |
| 12:04.05 | Wobin | from that article |
| 12:04.09 | Gnarfoz | he just found it stupid :D |
| 12:04.09 | Wobin | I just thought it was dumb |
| 12:04.34 | Gnarfoz | the whole nazi thing is dumb though, so it's kind of a moot point :p |
| 12:04.47 | Wobin | dumb by association =) |
| 12:04.59 | Bruners | http://www.freewebs.com/idateskinheads/nazi%20022.jpg <- see on the wall there, i think thats why |
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| 12:05.05 | sztanpet | why is there five different options to show the omen minimap icon and three of them shows a different minimap icon too |
| 12:05.45 | Wobin | Bruners: He looks like he built a cubbyhouse out of blankets |
| 12:06.03 | asmodai | 88 is bye bye in Chinese slang XD |
| 12:06.20 | Wobin | >< |
| 12:06.27 | Wobin | ba ba =P |
| 12:06.29 | Wobin | that's terrible |
| 12:06.59 | Bruners | so all those people wearing sweaters with huge "year of 88" on them are nazis? |
| 12:07.05 | asmodai | yes! |
| 12:07.08 | asmodai | :D |
| 12:07.10 | Wobin | Bruners: unless they graduated then =) |
| 12:07.24 | Gnarfoz | and some even if they did |
| 12:07.26 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 12:08.14 | Groktar | om nom nom Gnarfoz's toe |
| 12:08.19 | Gnarfoz | sztanpet: it has its own minimap button, the fubar plugin set to minimap button and the LibDBIcon one. :D it'll be down to two by the time the next release is out, though |
| 12:08.21 | Bruners | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411061/ ! |
| 12:08.25 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: as I said in another channel earlier |
| 12:08.26 | Bruners | its all coming clear now |
| 12:08.33 | asmodai | dangles Xinhuan's soul in front of Groktar |
| 12:08.44 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: I support Oman giving to me the 2nd level domain "omn". |
| 12:10.37 | asmodai | heh |
| 12:10.38 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: nono... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094077/ |
| 12:12.20 | asmodai | Bruners: btw, that photo, I hate how people abuse Thor's hammer for that shit. |
| 12:12.28 | Groktar | snatches |
| 12:13.17 | dieck | http://faithsucks.com/files/images/eliminatedjuicemy5.preview.jpg ... i'm really speechless |
| 12:13.33 | Bruners | asmodai: some of them believe in odin and thor tho |
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| 12:13.59 | Wobin | that's all kinds of terrible |
| 12:14.18 | asmodai | I think vikings were pretty indiscriminate when it came to pillaging and raping. |
| 12:16.17 | Groktar | rapes asmodai and pillages his house |
| 12:16.50 | asmodai | Noes! |
| 12:17.19 | Groktar | on nom nom asmodai's soul |
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| 12:17.52 | Tamaroth | http://yogan.meinungsverstaerker.de/fun/hitler_achievement_unlocked.jpg |
| 12:19.05 | Groktar | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-fashion-sense-cat-springs-into-action.jpg |
| 12:19.41 | asmodai | rofl |
| 12:20.04 | asmodai | whenever I feel slightly depressed or so, one look at icanhascheezburger.com brightens my day :D |
| 12:20.11 | many | so the next wo achievement would be 12mio kills? |
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| 12:21.02 | asmodai | Groktar: did you see that one with the snow leopard and the snowball on his forehead? |
| 12:21.09 | asmodai | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/11/02/funny-pictures-snoball-fite-rule-1/ |
| 12:21.16 | SunTsu | many: No, head shot, from all I hear ;) |
| 12:21.29 | Groktar | o? |
| 12:21.37 | many | head shot in wow. ehehehe. |
| 12:21.58 | asmodai | given some of the guns and scopes you can pick up... |
| 12:21.59 | SunTsu | many: Well, would be an achievement, right? ;) |
| 12:22.04 | many | CC:FF7 critical strike from behind on level 15: 1500 DMG |
| 12:22.56 | many | need epicz |
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| 12:23.45 | Wobin | <3 ichc |
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| 12:24.34 | Wobin | My utter favourite is -still- cheezburger masheen =) |
| 12:26.25 | Groktar | i like the basement cat rises |
| 12:26.44 | Wobin | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/09/29/funny-pictures-luv-u-cheezburger-masheen/ |
| 12:27.11 | asmodai | And this is why cats just rock. |
| 12:27.35 | asmodai | It's funny how within this genre you then get stuff like ceiling and basement cat |
| 12:27.51 | asmodai | sociologists and such must love the interweb |
| 12:33.40 | Wobin | http://www.mazapan.se/games/BurnTheRope.php |
| 12:34.17 | Wobin | ps |
| 12:34.21 | Wobin | may not work well in FF |
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| 12:36.22 | Groktar | http://icanhascheezburger.wordpress.com/files/2008/05/funny-pictures-basement-cat-clw.jpg |
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| 12:36.57 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: like completely broken in FF |
| 12:37.11 | Wobin | yeag |
| 12:37.15 | Wobin | just run it in ie |
| 12:37.23 | Wobin | or download it maybe |
| 12:41.19 | harl | works well. just allow some scripts |
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| 12:47.22 | godzirra | Stupid timezones... stupid business trips.. stupid states with multiple timezones. |
| 12:47.25 | godzirra | yawns and waves. |
| 12:50.12 | Groktar | sends godzirra to a furry convention |
| 12:50.41 | godzirra | shoots Groktar. |
| 12:50.48 | godzirra | That would at least be entertaining. |
| 12:50.53 | godzirra | Freak watching is a fun past time. |
| 12:50.57 | godzirra | *pasttime |
| 12:51.55 | godzirra | *pastime =/ |
| 12:51.59 | godzirra | this being up early thing sucks too. |
| 12:57.09 | godzirra | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:19.22 | Grum | 666 fish and counting in Orgrimmar :'( |
| 13:20.00 | JY` | eating fish is good for your health |
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| 13:21.09 | Nimbal | Hi everyone. I'd like to make an internal clock for a library so I don't have to call GetTime so often. That's what I have so far: http://ace.pastey.net/100552. Now, I have the problem that the clock is out of sync with GetTime until the second sync or so, after that it's fine. |
| 13:22.13 | Nimbal | I tried (as seen in the pastey) setting the time variable in PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD. I tried having time start out as nil and setting it on the supposedly first OnUpdate. Both have the same issue. Any idea? |
| 13:22.35 | Arrowmaster | why dont you just use GetTime()? |
| 13:22.46 | Grum | or better |
| 13:22.51 | Grum | why are you calling it that often? |
| 13:25.10 | Nimbal | Might be nitpicking, but GetTime is about 100 times slower than incrementing a timer. And there might be addons which call the library function that needs the time quite often. Maybe not hundreds of times a second all the time, but at peak, that would be definitely a landmark (time left on buffs, if you want to know). |
| 13:26.12 | Arrowmaster | where did you get this 100 times slower idea from? |
| 13:26.28 | Nimbal | Testing. Wait a moment. |
| 13:26.56 | Xinhuan | err, calling your library function is also going to be slow Nimbal |
| 13:27.01 | jnwhiteh | very slow |
| 13:27.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah, and less accurate |
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| 13:27.23 | jnwhiteh | over 9000 times slower!! |
| 13:27.32 | Arrowmaster | anything calling GetTime() that much is because it wants extremely accurate data |
| 13:28.09 | Nimbal | http://ace.pastey.net/100553 takes about 2 seconds on my PC. Incrementing some variable instead takes 20 ms |
| 13:28.10 | Grum | Nimbal: *why* do you need to call it that often? |
| 13:28.13 | Grum | what is the occasion? |
| 13:28.44 | jnwhiteh | I have to say it feels like you're measuring the wrong thing |
| 13:28.48 | jnwhiteh | to say the least |
| 13:29.04 | Xinhuan | and Nimbal, you didn't even localize GetTime |
| 13:29.12 | jnwhiteh | truth! |
| 13:29.18 | jnwhiteh | Xinhuan speaks it |
| 13:29.30 | Nimbal | The library is supposed to track buffs. I assume most buff addons will want to have the time left, so I need the current time. |
| 13:29.55 | Nimbal | Err... localize? What do you mean by that? |
| 13:30.03 | jnwhiteh | local GetTime = GetTime |
| 13:30.04 | jnwhiteh | for one |
| 13:30.21 | jnwhiteh | so you're not costing yourself a table lookup in addition to the function call each iteration |
| 13:30.30 | jnwhiteh | also, you should be doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING unless someoen asks for data |
| 13:30.55 | Grum | Nimbal: 'track buffs'; bar-mod? |
| 13:31.22 | Nimbal | Ugh... bars. Who needs bars? They are so wasteful. |
| 13:31.26 | Xinhuan | there shouldn't be a need to call GetTime() regularly, because OnUpdates() have a "elapsed" argument passed to them |
| 13:31.32 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 13:31.39 | Grum | yup |
| 13:31.40 | Xinhuan | you only need to call GetTime() once in a while |
| 13:31.44 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r102 / (3 files in 2 directories): SimpleMD: add zhCN and zhTW locales from yeachan |
| 13:31.50 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:31.53 | Xinhuan | say when there's a new buff, or something expires |
| 13:34.17 | Grum | Generally when you need to do something every single frame there is a better way than just 'calling a function' over and over :) |
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| 13:36.36 | Nimbal | "Once in a while" is exactly what I'm trying to do. But to put it into context: Say we have an average buff addon that displays timers. Either the buff tracking library maintains a timer and provides a time left per buff or the buff addon does this by itself (possibly in a bad way). In my opinion, this functionality belongs to the library because there could be several addons using it. Why should each addon implement its own timer? |
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| 13:37.11 | jnwhiteh | because the addon knows best |
| 13:37.13 | Grum | caching time is bad by default |
| 13:37.25 | jnwhiteh | if I don't need timers, your "library" should not do it. |
| 13:37.33 | jnwhiteh | if I have bars or icons, OnUpdate will always beat you |
| 13:39.30 | Xinhuan | frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) self.elapsed = self.elapsed + elapsed end) <-- there you have it, a timer that increments by addition, no GetTime() calls |
| 13:39.58 | jnwhiteh | and its only set on frames that care about buffs in the first place |
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| 13:41.39 | Grum | and then find a suitable not too often recurring event to set self.elapsed to GetTime() :) |
| 13:41.46 | Nimbal | Xinhuan, I'm not sure you understand my problem. I need the time from GetTime because UnitAura returns the expiration time in terms of GetTime. And such a simple increment like your's runs out of sync sooner or later. But jnwhiteh has a point. |
| 13:41.55 | Xinhuan | it'll only go out of sync maybe once a minute by maybe half a second, so you can easily (if self.elapsed > 30 then DoAGetTime()) |
| 13:42.10 | Grum | Nimbal: what is the addon called you will be using this? |
| 13:42.19 | crookfingerjake | Xinhuan: Omen's comment page on Curse is priceless, epic fail |
| 13:42.23 | Grum | so i can avoid downloading it ever :) |
| 13:42.43 | Nimbal | Xinhuan, please reread my first pastey: http://ace.pastey.net/100552. Looking familiar? |
| 13:43.11 | Grum | your code does way more |
| 13:43.19 | Grum | and all unnessesary things |
| 13:43.28 | Xinhuan | "i would love to hear a Leeroy Jenkins audioclip play when i gain aggro, is there any way to get that track to play using the aggro warning currently implemented in Omen?" |
| 13:43.30 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:43.53 | Xinhuan | Nimbal, looks fine? |
| 13:43.54 | crookfingerjake | priceless |
| 13:43.55 | SunTsu | Hm, is there any known reason for some Broker-Addons not showing up in b2f? |
| 13:43.58 | ckknight | hey all |
| 13:44.08 | Bruners | morning ckk |
| 13:44.17 | Grum | SunTsu: because they are deselected in the options of it? |
| 13:44.35 | crookfingerjake | I know for certain that Attrition simply doesn't show up |
| 13:44.38 | crookfingerjake | Dunno why |
| 13:44.40 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r143 / (25 files in 3 directories): ArkInventory: |
| 13:44.41 | Repo | - 3.02.01 Beta |
| 13:45.21 | Nimbal | Grum. Enlighten me. My code is throttled to not run more often than every 0.1 seconds and will sync with GetTime every 100 seconds. What else is I doing? |
| 13:45.23 | Gnarfoz | Grum: in the options dialogue where you choose them, probably ;) |
| 13:45.35 | SunTsu | Grum: No, I can't see them there, that's what I meant by "not showing up" |
| 13:45.40 | jnwhiteh | Nimbal: you should not be doing this.. at all |
| 13:45.41 | Grum | SunTsu: /b2f ? |
| 13:45.45 | crookfingerjake | Grum: lol |
| 13:45.56 | jnwhiteh | Nimbal: give the expiration time to the user of the addon, and they can very trivially manage the details from there |
| 13:46.05 | jnwhiteh | considering everyone does it now without any difficult |
| 13:46.11 | jnwhiteh | but I'm not fully sure why we need a "buff" library anyway |
| 13:46.18 | jnwhiteh | so *shrug* |
| 13:46.22 | SunTsu | Grum: Yeah, no sign of, for example Broker:Calendar |
| 13:46.38 | Grum | dunno tbh |
| 13:48.25 | Grum | Nimbal: well for once your code is more than 1 line .. compared to xins |
| 13:49.15 | Repo | 10prescription: 03Starinnia * r78 Prescription.lua: |
| 13:49.16 | Repo | Prescription: add some wotlk elixirs and flasks I found on wowhead |
| 13:49.19 | Groktar | always puts his code on 1 line |
| 13:50.02 | Grum | sigh |
| 13:50.54 | Grum | your code stops time for 0.1s .. which is fail |
| 13:51.30 | Nimbal | Surely you wanted to say that my clock is only accurate to 0.1s, right? |
| 13:51.51 | Arrowmaster | GetTime() is a lot more accurate than that |
| 13:51.54 | Grum | no; you literally stop time |
| 13:52.12 | Grum | and yeah |
| 13:52.15 | Grum | that is the result indeed |
| 13:52.25 | Nimbal | Grum, you mean the WoW client would only run at 10 FPS with this code enabled? |
| 13:52.41 | Grum | nah that would be worse =) |
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| 13:54.21 | Groktar | curls up in Anaral's lap and goes to sleep |
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| 13:55.06 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.01 Beta * r144 : Tagging as 3.02.01 Beta. |
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| 13:58.07 | Grum | Nimbal: imho 0.1s resolution is low as hell; the simple code Xin typed does the job more precise and you just need to 'set' it on some 'not too often' occurring event |
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| 13:58.39 | Grum | and i think the only error you will get is due to float-rounding |
| 14:00.10 | Nimbal | Ok, you (and Expo saying the lib used about 50 ms of processor after 5 minutes idling) convinced me. May we pretend I was drunk when writing it? |
| 14:00.38 | quiescens | what are you drunk on? |
| 14:00.39 | Grum | meh :) |
| 14:00.42 | Grum | its just overkill =) |
| 14:00.46 | ckknight | life? |
| 14:00.51 | ckknight | woo! |
| 14:00.53 | Grum | OD on life ftl :'( |
| 14:01.07 | [SW]Dodge | Nimbal: what should the code do? "count" the time? O,o |
| 14:01.08 | ckknight | well, death is the ultimate orgasm of life, after all |
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| 14:02.17 | quiescens | 1+1=3 |
| 14:02.36 | Nimbal | quiescens: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9361 |
| 14:03.37 | Xinhuan | Nimbal, the "lib" is using 20 ms, my code would also use 20 ms, your point? |
| 14:04.06 | Xinhuan | (over 5 minutes that is) |
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| 14:08.00 | Nimbal | My point is that continuous OnUpdate in a library has worse impact than I thought (yes, I know, I should have tested that first before jumping to optimistic conclusions). |
| 14:08.49 | Xinhuan | also your code would use maybe 5-10% less time if you actually added "local GetTime = GetTime" at the top |
| 14:08.54 | Xinhuan | of your file |
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| 14:11.57 | crookfingerjake | takes notes. |
| 14:12.19 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03ckknight * r1857 trunk/: Restore folder |
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| 14:15.44 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03ckknight * r1858 : Remove trunk |
| 14:15.49 | Repo | 10pit-bull: 03ckknight * r1859 : Restore folder |
| 14:19.52 | mitch0 | Nimbal: hey, thanks for Luggage :) it seems the best ABP replacement I could find so far |
| 14:20.39 | asmodai | rofl: |
| 14:20.41 | asmodai | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=31984 |
| 14:20.45 | asmodai | Finger of Death |
| 14:20.45 | asmodai | Unlimited range |
| 14:20.45 | asmodai | 1 sec cast |
| 14:20.46 | asmodai | Strikes an enemy with the finger of death, inflicting 20000 shadow damage upon them, their children, and their children's children. |
| 14:20.57 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 14:20.59 | nevcairiel | archimonde |
| 14:21.05 | asmodai | That's just beautiful. :) |
| 14:22.43 | Thrae | (Comment on Finger of Death) "Dude, I don't even think God could save you from this." |
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| 14:34.18 | mitch0 | didum |
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| 14:48.22 | crookfingerjake | Xinhuan: "Autocollapse" + "Hide Omen on 0 bars" makes Omen show up when solo |
| 14:48.43 | Xinhuan | lol really? |
| 14:48.52 | Xinhuan | what does your auto show-hide options say? |
| 14:49.01 | Groktar | wow Xinhuan, way to write buggy code!!! |
| 14:49.04 | crookfingerjake | Yeah, in fact, if you leave it checked and uncheck Autocollapse it still shows |
| 14:49.29 | crookfingerjake | I have set not to shwo when alone |
| 14:49.39 | crookfingerjake | everything else is checked |
| 14:49.50 | Xinhuan | including "you are not in combat"? |
| 14:49.52 | thul | I blame Xinhuan |
| 14:49.53 | thul | for all |
| 14:50.01 | crookfingerjake | Yes |
| 14:50.32 | crookfingerjake | ah, let me restate |
| 14:50.44 | crookfingerjake | Xinhuan: "Autocollapse" + "Hide Omen on 0 bars" makes Omen show up when solo and in battle |
| 14:50.47 | Xinhuan | ok 1 min, i'll find a mob right outside a city to aggro |
| 14:51.25 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 14:51.37 | Xinhuan | checking code paths |
| 14:52.25 | Xinhuan | so the problem is the "hide omen on 0 bars" option |
| 14:52.44 | Xinhuan | if that's off, it behaves correctly yeah? |
| 14:52.54 | crookfingerjake | yes sir |
| 14:53.12 | Xinhuan | if not self.Anchor:IsShown() and not db.CollapseHide then return end |
| 14:53.13 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 14:53.14 | thul | noone say "sir" to me :-( |
| 14:53.32 | crookfingerjake | thul: sorry, sir. |
| 14:54.41 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 14:54.52 | Xinhuan | not sure how to fix it, brain freeze |
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| 14:55.53 | crookfingerjake | brain fart! |
| 14:56.40 | crookfingerjake | don't worry, i still love you |
| 15:00.04 | Xinhuan | crookfingerjake: try something for me |
| 15:00.26 | Xinhuan | line 1469, remove the line "self.Anchor:Show()" |
| 15:01.29 | thul | http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/10/enceladus_up_close.html -< gotta love the #2 image |
| 15:01.32 | thul | thank you crookfingerjake :-D |
| 15:04.34 | crookfingerjake | our line numbers seem to be at odds, what function is that in? |
| 15:05.42 | Xinhuan | self.Anchor:Show() |
| 15:05.42 | Xinhuan | self.BarList:Show() |
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| 15:05.47 | Xinhuan | they are both together |
| 15:05.50 | Xinhuan | one after the other, |
| 15:05.55 | Xinhuan | in fact you can delete both lines |
| 15:06.07 | Xinhuan | since no code in the whole addon hides BarList |
| 15:06.23 | Xinhuan | oh wait there is |
| 15:06.25 | crookfingerjake | got'em |
| 15:06.30 | Xinhuan | just remove the anchor one |
| 15:06.33 | Xinhuan | and see how it goes |
| 15:06.35 | crookfingerjake | kk |
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| 15:09.29 | Xinhuan | hmm doesn't seem to work very well as a solution |
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| 15:10.33 | crookfingerjake | Xinhuan: victory! |
| 15:11.38 | Xinhuan | yeah but it doesn't work if "hide omen on 0 bars" is off ;p |
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| 15:11.39 | Xinhuan | so my solution isn't a solution lol |
| 15:11.40 | crookfingerjake | hmm, seems to work for me |
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| 15:12.37 | Xinhuan | wel if its already hidden |
| 15:12.37 | Xinhuan | it doesn't appear |
| 15:12.37 | Xinhuan | i mean, turn off the "you are not in combat" |
| 15:12.37 | Xinhuan | as well |
| 15:12.37 | Xinhuan | and you'll see what i mean hehe |
| 15:12.58 | crookfingerjake | lol, i see |
| 15:13.10 | Xinhuan | ok let me try to go over this code logic hmm |
| 15:13.27 | Xinhuan | when i call UpdateBars(), i shortciruit and exit the function if Omen is hidden |
| 15:13.39 | Xinhuan | unless "hide omen on 0 bars" option is on |
| 15:14.42 | thul | http://cache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/isaf_10_08/isaf09_16516185.jpg <- priceless :-) |
| 15:14.52 | Xinhuan | because it doesn't know whether to show or hide omen until we know how many bars there are to show |
| 15:16.48 | crookfingerjake | Hmm, I still think its working correctly for me, with "you are not in combat" unchecked, it shows out of combat, like it should, with autocollapse on it collapses to title bar, with hide at zero, it disappears entirely |
| 15:17.10 | Xinhuan | yes, now uncheck "hide omen on 0 bars" |
| 15:17.17 | Xinhuan | omen won't show anymore forever ;p |
| 15:17.52 | crookfingerjake | and that shows the title bar, right? |
| 15:18.00 | Xinhuan | no, it just shows nothing |
| 15:18.22 | Xinhuan | err turn it back on |
| 15:18.22 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 15:18.25 | Xinhuan | i'm confused myself |
| 15:18.59 | Xinhuan | so "hide omen on 0 bars" on, and "you are in combat" off, and it doesn't work anymore :< |
| 15:19.30 | crookfingerjake | Isn't that what's supposed to happen? |
| 15:20.01 | Xinhuan | what's happening is omen doesn't show itself |
| 15:20.03 | crookfingerjake | It's "you are NOT in combat" |
| 15:20.03 | Xinhuan | anymore |
| 15:20.11 | Xinhuan | if yu are in combat |
| 15:20.14 | Xinhuan | and have more than 1 bar to show |
| 15:21.11 | crookfingerjake | in the show/hide options, you have two sections "show when" and "hide when" , and the "you are not in combat" is under hide when, so from my logic, it seems to work right |
| 15:21.35 | crookfingerjake | I am confused? |
| 15:21.37 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:21.54 | Xinhuan | "you are not in combat" is off |
| 15:21.57 | Xinhuan | so omen shouldn't hide |
| 15:22.27 | crookfingerjake | unless hide when 0 bars is checked |
| 15:22.40 | neenee | Fallout 3 is a bit too much like a shooter to me :| |
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| 15:22.50 | Xinhuan | then, "hide omen on 0 bars" is on, omen doesn't show up anymore when u engage |
| 15:22.52 | neenee | Sure, it has Pipboy and a similar setting, but still. |
| 15:22.53 | crookfingerjake | Omen doesn't hide for me with that setup |
| 15:23.05 | crookfingerjake | It works correctly for me |
| 15:23.11 | Xinhuan | i forgot to say i'm in a group ;p |
| 15:23.13 | Xinhuan | so omen should show |
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| 15:23.32 | Xinhuan | if you're not in a group, u can turn on "show when alone" |
| 15:23.34 | Xinhuan | to see the issue |
| 15:23.52 | crookfingerjake | Yeah, that's what I'm doing |
| 15:24.07 | crookfingerjake | so perhaps the error only occurs grouped? |
| 15:24.47 | Xinhuan | no, its because the code doesn't know why omen is hidden |
| 15:25.14 | crookfingerjake | weeps quietly. |
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| 15:26.56 | Repo | 10buffalo: 03tomsommer 06saroz-clone * r213 Buffalo.lua: - Make flash smooth by not resetting the flash all the time |
| 15:26.57 | Repo | - Handle auras with less than 34 second duration, by only starting to flash when the timeleft is half the duration |
| 15:26.58 | Repo | - Fix tooltip anchoring |
| 15:27.18 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 15:27.51 | Xinhuan | i know the issue, just not how to fix it |
| 15:27.52 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 15:28.13 | Xinhuan | braaaaaainnns |
| 15:28.14 | crookfingerjake | lol |
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| 15:30.38 | harl | what was that add-on called that added guild bank contents and items sent by mail to the item tooltips? was it characterinfo? because neither bagnon nor possessions do that and i don't see any other of my add-ons collecting such informations. |
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| 15:33.04 | crookfingerjake | altoholic does it for me |
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| 15:33.55 | SunTsu | harl: Maybe MaterialsTracker |
| 15:33.59 | EvilJohn | ! |
| 15:34.00 | sztanpet | harl arkinventory did that too |
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| 15:37.00 | Lukian | harl, I use BankItems |
| 15:37.00 | Zergreth | anybody know the new name for the cvar for the tab targeting radius, if there is any? |
| 15:37.00 | Lukian | (and recommend it) |
| 15:37.10 | Lukian | (and it does everything you said) |
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| 15:41.14 | Zergreth | anybody? D: |
| 15:41.38 | Groktar | attack Zergreth |
| 15:41.50 | Zergreth | ~.° |
| 15:43.05 | Groktar | rips out Zergreth's soul and feeds it to his pet ferret |
| 15:43.12 | Zergreth | yea, okay, whatever |
| 15:43.19 | Zergreth | i need that cvar though |
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| 15:43.50 | Zergreth | it existed pre 3.x as "targetNearestDistance", but that one doesnt exist anymore now |
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| 16:45.44 | Aens|Superiority | what is the best LDB display addon? Fortress is one I heard a few times. What else is available? |
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| 16:51.48 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r5 .pkgmeta: Added missing AceGUI |
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| 16:55.45 | KriLL3 | broker2fubar |
| 16:55.47 | Gnarfoz | Aens|Superiority: check the LDB displayer thread on the forums |
| 16:55.50 | KriLL3 | =P |
| 16:57.13 | Gnarfoz | and yes, B2F is one of the best displayers there is |
| 16:57.30 | spode | Fortress <3 |
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| 17:00.40 | Aens|Superiority | i am currently using fubar with b2fubar and i'm having problems with multiple icons and a couple irregularities |
| 17:01.16 | Aens|Superiority | just wondering if going to a pure ldb addon will solve it |
| 17:01.45 | Gnarfoz | figuring out what the problem is will solve it. |
| 17:02.00 | Aens|Superiority | also the change to ora2's main tank assigning with the fubar icon is the biggest detractor. |
| 17:02.06 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): Tweak. |
| 17:02.34 | Aens|Superiority | Gnarfoz: yeah, except addons like omen repeatedly ignore the settings and come back after restarts. |
| 17:02.51 | cncfanatics | how to stop bartender to stop aligning automaticly to the nearest buttons ? |
| 17:03.20 | charon | disable sticky bars |
| 17:03.27 | cncfanatics | where's that option ? |
| 17:03.28 | cncfanatics | can't find it |
| 17:03.42 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 17:03.46 | Gnarfoz | right in the big-ass popup |
| 17:03.47 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 17:03.50 | KriLL3 | how can a mage do an instant fireball for 4.5k followed by an instant arcane barrage for 3.9k? |
| 17:03.53 | Gnarfoz | that appears as soon as you unlock the bars |
| 17:04.18 | cncfanatics | there's no popup afaik :p bars just unlock when unchecking the button |
| 17:04.30 | charon | thanks Gnarfoz, i wouldn't have had a clue as it's been months since i last started the game :) |
| 17:04.32 | nevcairiel | and a popup appears |
| 17:04.34 | nevcairiel | slaps cncfanatics |
| 17:04.42 | Gnarfoz | Aens|Superiority: yay write protected SVs? Omen currently can display up to 3 minimap buttons. its own, a LDB one, and a fubar one. disable all 3 = win |
| 17:04.59 | cncfanatics | can't find the popup >.> |
| 17:05.12 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: uhm "afaik" kind of implies you're not doing this yourself? |
| 17:05.17 | cncfanatics | I am |
| 17:05.21 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 17:05.32 | Gnarfoz | it's pretty much in the middle of your screen oO |
| 17:05.39 | cncfanatics | I'm telling you its not :p |
| 17:05.59 | cncfanatics | guess I'll screen it |
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| 17:09.04 | Gnarfoz | http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/bt4.jpg |
| 17:09.15 | cncfanatics | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2n0k379&s=4 where's the popup ? :p |
| 17:09.39 | Gnarfoz | where's the screenshot, rather |
| 17:09.44 | Gnarfoz | why does that page require js? |
| 17:09.48 | Gnarfoz | please link the image :P |
| 17:10.20 | cncfanatics | http://s4.tinypic.com/2n0k379.jpg |
| 17:10.58 | Gnarfoz | ...why do you have 4 1 button bars? oO |
| 17:11.12 | cncfanatics | because I want to ? |
| 17:11.36 | Sliker_Hawk | I think he means you could have one bar with large padding |
| 17:11.43 | cncfanatics | (long answer: because they're gonna grow as I get new skills and I want to group them already) |
| 17:13.54 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: my guess, you use an old version :p |
| 17:14.21 | nevcairiel | the popup came in 4.1.2 |
| 17:14.26 | nevcairiel | you probably have 4.1.0 or 4.11 |
| 17:14.29 | nevcairiel | +. |
| 17:15.25 | cncfanatics | its about a week old |
| 17:15.28 | cncfanatics | guess I'll update |
| 17:15.44 | nevcairiel | 4.1.2 was released about a day after 3.0 hit live |
| 17:17.34 | cncfanatics | mmmm |
| 17:17.49 | cncfanatics | any command to figure version ? |
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| 17:19.13 | Bruners | nevcairiel: how could i make a bar always show if im in a battleground/pvp tag on ? |
| 17:19.43 | nevcairiel | yu cant |
| 17:19.51 | nevcairiel | i dont think blizzard has macro tags for that |
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| 17:28.25 | cncfanatics | nevcairiel: battleground is doable manualy isn't it ? |
| 17:28.55 | nevcairiel | probably, but why bother |
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| 17:31.12 | cncfanatics | because you can ? |
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| 17:32.14 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, on P_E_W, you shouldn't be in combat and should be able to set show/hide attributes after checking which zone you are in ;p |
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| 17:32.28 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i know, but again, why bother |
| 17:32.35 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't hehe |
| 17:34.34 | Repo | 10dhud2: 03Arcanefoam * r70 core.lua: DHUD2: |
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| 17:36.12 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: if you log in in combat, you are in combat. :( almost all addons that use secure stuff fail at working when loggin in in combat :\ |
| 17:36.46 | Xinhuan | not true |
| 17:37.14 | Xinhuan | why does xperl raid frames work then? |
| 17:37.18 | Xinhuan | when logging in midcombat |
| 17:37.38 | Repo | 10simple-unit-frames: 03Pneumatus * r77 CustomStyles.lua: - Only add a custom style to the formatList once. |
| 17:38.04 | nevcairiel | because raid frames are created by a secure raid header =P |
| 17:38.12 | nevcairiel | and you can do stuff, if you do it early enough |
| 17:38.16 | nevcairiel | but P_E_W is probably too late |
| 17:39.57 | Xinhuan | you can do anything you want as long as your secure frames are created before PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 17:40.04 | Xinhuan | such as setting attributes |
| 17:40.11 | Xinhuan | on those secure frames |
| 17:40.36 | nevcairiel | thats why OnEnable works =P |
| 17:40.40 | Xinhuan | you aren't considered in combat then |
| 17:40.41 | nevcairiel | P_E_W is after P_L iirc |
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| 17:47.51 | Gnarfoz | clique never works |
| 17:47.58 | Gnarfoz | Grid also fails |
| 17:48.07 | Gnarfoz | (not totally, but partly) |
| 17:48.10 | Saryai | Why does clique never work? |
| 17:48.30 | Saryai | It's been running fine for me for the last... two years now? |
| 17:49.14 | sztanpet | im using click2cast, just the right amount of lightweightness |
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| 17:50.27 | Saryai | I like how click2cast lets you set spells to be cast outside ufs, but other than that I prefer Clique's setup. |
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| 17:52.51 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 17:52.59 | Gnarfoz | people not reading backlogs is fun each time |
| 17:53.18 | Gnarfoz | logging in in combat will make clique not work :\ |
| 17:53.23 | Gnarfoz | on grid, at least |
| 17:53.37 | nevcairiel | thats probably a grid issue =P |
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| 17:53.46 | Saryai | Worked for me the last few times I got dc'd in combat, when I was still using grid. |
| 17:54.26 | Gnarfoz | also grid doesn't entirely get its act together and gives me about 35 instead of 25 unitframes ^^ |
| 17:54.30 | Saryai | But if you're getting DC'd in combat a lot, you probably shouldn't be playing a healer. =P |
| 17:54.50 | Gnarfoz | who says anything about a lot |
| 17:54.56 | Gnarfoz | it should work. |
| 17:55.16 | Saryai | It's a limitation of secure headers. |
| 17:55.35 | Saryai | If it's not working when logging in during combat, there's good reason. |
| 17:55.50 | Gnarfoz | no, as the guys who know stuff (tm) have just said: it should be working if done right. |
| 17:56.08 | Saryai | And in that case, you should have a backup plan (target -> heal instead of click -> heal) anyway |
| 17:56.23 | cncfanatics | its a bug in the addon |
| 17:56.33 | cncfanatics | they don't work from a certain event on, so you have to do everything before that event triggers |
| 17:57.25 | Gnarfoz | Saryai: seriously, I don't need advice on how to heal, ffs :p |
| 17:57.36 | Saryai | Heh, I know. |
| 17:58.02 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: from which point on are you considered in combat then, if you're logging in in combat? |
| 17:59.12 | Saryai | PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED event lets you know when you're entering combat, there's no indication if you log in while in combat unless you put in a check for InCombatLockdown() |
| 17:59.57 | cncfanatics | Gnarfoz: PLAYER_LOGIN is the final event iirc |
| 18:00.16 | cncfanatics | Saryai: InCombatLockdown() is false at login |
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| 18:00.23 | cncfanatics | until PLAYER_LOGIN triggers |
| 18:00.27 | cncfanatics | so you can do whatever you want |
| 18:00.30 | Saryai | Ah, wasn't aware. |
| 18:01.02 | Saryai | So, make the addon do its work before PLAYER_LOGIN and everything should be at least mostly functional |
| 18:01.07 | Gnarfoz | Saryai: while that's true, it doesn't help in the slightest. it's too late when that event fires :p |
| 18:01.35 | cncfanatics | blizzard did its job well |
| 18:01.48 | cncfanatics | everything that can only be done after PLAYER_LOGIN (talent info mostly) is usualy not needed to setup secure frames |
| 18:01.58 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: when that event fires, you can still do stuff, just not later |
| 18:02.17 | nevcairiel | PLAYER_LOGIN is OnEnable in Ace addons, and it still works fine |
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| 18:02.45 | cncfanatics | ok, then the lockdown is in effect right after player_login |
| 18:02.50 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: when PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED fires I can still do stuff? |
| 18:03.01 | cncfanatics | yes |
| 18:03.22 | cncfanatics | right after P_R_D the lockdown gets in effect |
| 18:03.24 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: in the event handler, yes |
| 18:03.27 | nevcairiel | not after |
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| 18:03.37 | nevcairiel | same for PLAYER_LOGIN during login in combat |
| 18:04.08 | cncfanatics | doesn't get why grid sets its stuff up after that event |
| 18:04.46 | Xinhuan | because people that think "creating frames on demand" is stupid when it comes to secure frames |
| 18:04.48 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: YOU! |
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| 18:05.51 | Xinhuan | for secure frames - they need to be pre-created, not on demand |
| 18:05.51 | cncfanatics | no they don't |
| 18:05.51 | Gnarfoz | obviously they need to |
| 18:05.51 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: actually, the headers create them on demand |
| 18:05.51 | nevcairiel | you just need to setup the header |
| 18:05.52 | Gnarfoz | otherwise I wouldn't even be asking this, right? |
| 18:06.05 | Xinhuan | ok, then the header needs to be pre-created |
| 18:06.07 | Xinhuan | not on demand |
| 18:06.19 | nevcairiel | I have no idea how Grid works, but sRaidFrames for example, it has to pre-create the headers for the 8 groups |
| 18:06.23 | nevcairiel | but not the 5 member frames |
| 18:06.24 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: no they don't |
| 18:06.26 | nevcairiel | those get created |
| 18:06.37 | Saroz | word |
| 18:06.39 | cncfanatics | you can create your headers just fine with CreateFrame() before player_login ends |
| 18:06.43 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: you need to create the headers yourself, there is no header-header |
| 18:06.49 | nevcairiel | cncfanatics: which is still pre-creating =P |
| 18:06.55 | cncfanatics | kind of |
| 18:06.58 | Xinhuan | which is NOT what grid is doing ;p |
| 18:07.13 | cncfanatics | I'm wondering on what event it tries to create them rly |
| 18:07.21 | Gnarfoz | the wrong one! |
| 18:07.22 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 18:07.24 | Xinhuan | probably P_M_C or something |
| 18:07.25 | nevcairiel | probably when it sees member join the raid |
| 18:07.38 | Gnarfoz | so late that in contrast to pitbull frames |
| 18:07.46 | Gnarfoz | clique can't sink it's teeth in |
| 18:07.53 | Gnarfoz | before they get all protected 'n stuff |
| 18:08.06 | Bruners | P_M_C? |
| 18:08.22 | nevcairiel | PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED |
| 18:08.40 | cncfanatics | easy fix then |
| 18:08.48 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 18:08.50 | cncfanatics | check on PLAYER_LOGIN if the person is in a raid ? |
| 18:09.08 | Xinhuan | or you can just create them whether you are in a raid or not?? |
| 18:09.12 | cncfanatics | that works too |
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| 18:09.23 | cncfanatics | though thats a bit of a waste ;) |
| 18:09.30 | Xinhuan | how so? its just a header |
| 18:09.38 | Xinhuan | or 8 headers to be specific |
| 18:09.56 | nevcairiel | Grid has only one header, i think |
| 18:10.01 | nevcairiel | but i could be wrong |
| 18:10.15 | nevcairiel | never actually used it for long |
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| 18:11.33 | cncfanatics | Xinhuan: need to create the frames early enough too |
| 18:11.44 | cncfanatics | P_M_C is too late to create the frames as well, the lockdown is in effect |
| 18:11.53 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03yess * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): added tooltip and update code |
| 18:12.13 | Xinhuan | chocolate hmm |
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| 18:18.05 | Gnarfoz | cncfanatics: I thought you just said the the headers create the frames on demand and aren't restricted by being in combat, as long as the headers are present early enough? |
| 18:19.22 | cncfanatics | depends on how its done |
| 18:20.37 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 18:20.38 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 18:20.46 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: pingaling-ding |
| 18:24.54 | Pneumatus | anyone know how much hit you need at 70 to be hitcapped on a level 83 mob? :> |
| 18:25.14 | nevcairiel | too much to reach |
| 18:25.17 | Jaxon | Pneumatus: more than double what you have now. |
| 18:25.17 | Xinhuan | nobody knows |
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| 18:25.42 | Jaxon | Pneumatus: to keep 9% hit (say on a hunter) I need to go from 160ish to 360ish or something. |
| 18:25.43 | nevcairiel | our locks said something about getting maybe 10% of their casts on the target |
| 18:25.55 | Repo | 10do-iknow-you: 03Shotmonkey 043.0.2-stable * r77 : DoIKnowYou: |
| 18:25.56 | Repo | - Copy to stable tag |
| 18:26.51 | Stanzilla | I had 23% hit on our horde city raidnight and that was by far not enough |
| 18:27.06 | Stanzilla | ~10 tries to get my dot up etc |
| 18:27.20 | Pneumatus | mobs gain 50 defense skill per level, right? |
| 18:27.28 | pentium166 | 5 |
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| 18:27.45 | Pneumatus | off by a factor, right-o |
| 18:27.50 | Dashkal | Pneumatus: one hand, yellow: 295.2 Two-hand: 917.8 (Source: http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit) |
| 18:27.50 | Dashkal | s/Two-hand/Dual-Wield/ |
| 18:27.50 | Dashkal | pokes purl |
| 18:28.10 | Dashkal | Yeah... um, my DK isn't going anywhere near DW *whistles* |
| 18:28.18 | Xinhuan | he asked about on a lvl 83, not a 73 |
| 18:28.46 | Pneumatus | yeh, vs level 83, i want to know what the base miss chance is going to be at 70 |
| 18:29.02 | Dashkal | lag much, purl? |
| 18:29.10 | Xinhuan | answer is, nobody knows |
| 18:29.16 | Fasti | 5%? +20%dw |
| 18:29.25 | Fasti | +4% |
| 18:29.40 | pentium166 | find a well geared rogue and have him go to town on the heroic training dummy? |
| 18:29.46 | pentium166 | or whatever it's called |
| 18:30.08 | Pneumatus | well, wowwiki suggests (Defense Skill - Weapon Skill - 10), so at 83, that should be (415-350-10) = 55% miss, right? |
| 18:30.23 | Dashkal | Pneumatus: erm, a level 83? or a boss? I was under the impression that a boss was always you + 3 |
| 18:30.27 | Fasti | % never changes |
| 18:30.30 | Fasti | ratings change |
| 18:30.55 | Fasti | 70 vs 83? |
| 18:31.23 | Fasti | ah |
| 18:33.09 | Pneumatus | hmm, getting hitcapped against level 75 guards might just about be possible |
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| 18:34.22 | Repo | -Profile Tests |
| 18:34.29 | pentium166 | relatedly, the strand of the ancients battlemaster in darnassus has like 500k hit points |
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| 18:37.33 | doom0r | can anyone suggest a replacement for necb? read: enemy cooldowns, not self/party/raid |
| 18:37.56 | Windcape | hey, do anyone know if the achievement tracker is always the same frame? and what the name of that frame is called ? |
| 18:39.22 | cncfanatics | Windcape: figure out yourself ? |
| 18:39.34 | cncfanatics | GetMouseFocus():GetName(); should return it as long as you mouseover it |
| 18:39.47 | doom0r | http://wowcompares.com/3029056 |
| 18:39.49 | cncfanatics | or, alternativly, check framexml |
| 18:39.55 | doom0r | first section has all the achievement info |
| 18:39.57 | Jaxon | doom0r: Antagonist? I don't use it but I think it migth be what you want. |
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| 18:41.32 | doom0r | Jaxon: yes, i forgot about that, seems it's not being updated however |
| 18:41.40 | mitchnull | anyone got any pointers for getting the spellid of the Rank1 version of any given spell? GetSpellLink("Spell", "Rank 1") doesn't work for rogues/warriors, as they no longer have the lower rank versions of their spells in their spellbook |
| 18:41.43 | Saryai | doom0r: Afflicted maybe? |
| 18:42.43 | Gngsk | mitchnull, wowhead? |
| 18:42.44 | doom0r | Saryai: that's only aimed at PvP |
| 18:42.50 | Jaxon | doom0r: Oh, I thought it was, I remember seeing it show up in my rss reader over the weekend but that was just ...useless. |
| 18:42.57 | Saryai | mitchnull: iirc rank returns nil if rank 1 |
| 18:42.59 | mitchnull | gngsk: I mean, programmatically |
| 18:43.09 | doom0r | Jaxon: someone localized it for ruRU |
| 18:43.11 | Saryai | Or if no existing rank of the spell. Either or |
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| 18:43.16 | Gngsk | prolly can't |
| 18:43.27 | Windcape | cncfanatics any clues about where in FrameXML then? Because the ingame info do seems to show multiple values , and I don't feel like manually testing every single achivement type to figure it out |
| 18:43.33 | Jaxon | doom0r: you want PvE cooldowns? |
| 18:43.41 | Windcape | because I don't see a AchivementFrame.xml |
| 18:43.49 | chiper | blizz needs to add an open invitation option to the calendar |
| 18:43.52 | doom0r | Windcape: -12:40:03- [doom0r]: http://wowcompares.com/3029056 |
| 18:43.56 | mitchnull | ok, then any other way of storing spells (that should match any rank of that spell) in a locale-independent way? |
| 18:43.58 | doom0r | -12:40:11- [doom0r]: first section has all the achievement info |
| 18:43.59 | Gngsk | Windcape, it's an addon |
| 18:44.11 | Windcape | oh, I didden't get it was related doom0r, sorry |
| 18:44.15 | doom0r | Jaxon: yes, don't care bout pvp |
| 18:44.19 | Saryai | doom0r: What type of cooldowns then? If instanced, go for Littlewigs/Babywigs. Raid, Bigwigs |
| 18:44.28 | doom0r | i have those |
| 18:44.34 | doom0r | general mob ones for normal stuff |
| 18:44.37 | doom0r | like necb provided |
| 18:44.38 | Jaxon | doom0r: I always assumed that the cooldowns in necb were hard coded and not gleaned from any API. |
| 18:44.45 | Saryai | Yeah... |
| 18:45.00 | doom0r | it's being rewritten by someone atm |
| 18:45.07 | Saryai | Honestly cooldowns shouldn't matter too much if you're fighting nonelites out in the wild. |
| 18:45.09 | doom0r | just not really there yet |
| 18:45.24 | doom0r | who said anything bout nonelites ;x |
| 18:45.27 | doom0r | i solo a lot of stuff |
| 18:45.32 | doom0r | prot pally ftw |
| 18:45.42 | Saryai | You need to give specific examples then. =P |
| 18:46.13 | doom0r | i guess i expected more people to be experienced with necb |
| 18:46.14 | Saryai | There aren't many mobs that have important cooldowns that aren't covered in Big/Little/Babywigs |
| 18:46.21 | Jaxon | ^^ |
| 18:46.27 | Saryai | Oh, trust me, I know NECB. |
| 18:46.54 | doom0r | well, the old config used to show EVERYTHING |
| 18:46.58 | Saryai | But I don't know exactly what mobs you'd be particularly worried about. |
| 18:47.01 | doom0r | and that helps the OID |
| 18:47.08 | doom0r | =D |
| 18:48.03 | NivFreak | so of course, I finally get a freaking sphere from kael'thas ~1 week before xpac |
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| 18:48.27 | doom0r | <--- clueless, what's that |
| 18:48.30 | Saryai | NivFreak: XD |
| 18:48.53 | Saryai | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32405 |
| 18:49.03 | NivFreak | yes |
| 18:49.16 | doom0r | oic |
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| 18:49.54 | NivFreak | oh well, at least it's defensive heavy |
| 18:50.00 | Saryai | I want that tanking neck on my warrior. =P |
| 18:50.07 | NivFreak | it'll help keep me capped while leveling |
| 18:50.23 | NivFreak | Saryai: yea, I've been trying to buy it off a guild for a while since we haven't been in t5 for a long time |
| 18:50.35 | Saryai | Don't blame ya. |
| 18:50.41 | NivFreak | didn't have enough healers to do sunwell, so we did vials instead |
| 18:50.47 | NivFreak | and sphere for me wh00t |
| 18:52.14 | Saryai | \o/ |
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| 18:53.14 | NivFreak | I wonder how long it'd take to clear AQ40 with a decent guild now |
| 18:54.06 | Jaxon | NivFreak: we did it in a PUG on Thursday. About 10 people that had done it before and 30 along for the ride. Took a couple of hours, mostly trash/travel time. |
| 18:54.22 | Jaxon | It wsa intesting watching the 30 poeple get splattered on C'thun while 10 of us did most of the work. |
| 18:54.34 | doom0r | lol |
| 18:54.45 | doom0r | it's such a simple fight |
| 18:54.49 | doom0r | people can't grasp it though |
| 18:54.52 | NivFreak | yea |
| 18:54.53 | Dashkal | Is the hit rating -> % formula posted anywhere? Is there even a forumula? |
| 18:54.54 | NivFreak | it's amazing |
| 18:55.04 | NivFreak | Dashkal: 16 hit at 70 |
| 18:55.06 | NivFreak | 32 at 80 |
| 18:55.09 | NivFreak | per 1% |
| 18:55.16 | NivFreak | (off the top of my head) |
| 18:55.23 | NivFreak | and yes, it's on wowwiki somewhere |
| 18:55.39 | Dashkal | NivFreak: Looking for the conversion factor as a function of level. Can't find it on the hitpage, just tables |
| 18:55.40 | NivFreak | ratingsbuster has a table for it |
| 18:55.53 | Dashkal | Trying to plot some graphs |
| 18:56.04 | NivFreak | pull it out of ratingsbuster |
| 18:56.22 | doom0r | Dashkal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/rating-buster/ |
| 18:56.24 | doom0r | nice table there |
| 18:56.30 | NivFreak | or off there yea |
| 18:56.34 | doom0r | Stat Conversion Data for Reference |
| 18:56.40 | doom0r | see that section |
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| 18:57.35 | kenlyric | do statblock/broker addons have any options at all? |
| 18:57.43 | kenlyric | maybe I'm just missing how to access them. |
| 18:57.47 | Dashkal | sweet, nom nom forumula |
| 18:57.49 | Dashkal | danke |
| 18:58.01 | CIA-27 | vendorbait: 03Tekkub 07master * r589f186 10/ VendorBait.lua : Account for stacked rewards - http://is.gd/6dZM |
| 18:58.10 | Dashkal | yeah, so not surprised that the curve changes at 60 *sighs* |
| 19:01.20 | Repo | 10broker_wraps: 03Lastrite * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): replace with 1.2 |
| 19:01.34 | Repo | 10broker_wraps: 03Lastrite * r10 gui.lua: replace with 1.2 |
| 19:01.53 | Dashkal | meh, this just turned into difficult math. What I'm trying to do is plot the amount of hit raiting required to hit cap vs a given mob at various levels. incoming 3d graph if I can wrap my head around it |
| 19:01.54 | Repo | 10broker_wraps: 03Lastrite * r11 Broker_Wraps.lua: 1.2 |
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| 19:01.58 | Repo | 10broker_wraps: 03Lastrite * r13 gui.lua: 1.2 |
| 19:02.40 | Stanzilla | svnfail |
| 19:03.06 | Repo | 10broker_cast: 03Lastrite * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): replace with 1.2 |
| 19:03.36 | Repo | 10broker_cast: 03Lastrite * r9 Broker_CasterStats.lua: 1.2 |
| 19:03.37 | Repo | 10broker_cast: 03Lastrite * r10 Broker_CasterStats.toc: 1.2 |
| 19:03.53 | Stanzilla | ohnoes |
| 19:04.13 | doom0r | heh |
| 19:04.30 | mitchnull | hm. how common is that ppl switch between different locales? |
| 19:04.51 | Saryai | Not very. |
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| 19:06.36 | doom0r | mitchnull: with regards to what? |
| 19:06.44 | doom0r | global? app specific? |
| 19:08.21 | Slayman | hey guys, anyone about to pimp the Triggers of Parrot to 3.0.2 ? |
| 19:08.34 | doom0r | i really dont' think there's any need to change locale globally anymore actually because you can fake so much |
| 19:11.04 | Bruners | any of you rogues want to show me a decent pvp spec with swords ? |
| 19:11.09 | harl | fake.. what for? |
| 19:11.21 | doom0r | things that block based on locale |
| 19:11.43 | Slayman | Bruners isn't Ambush kinda the heart and soul of PvP? |
| 19:11.59 | harl | what things oO |
| 19:12.01 | doom0r | ever try to watch a bbc vid from america? very little is allowed except news |
| 19:12.31 | Bruners | Slayman: thats possible, but my rogue dont have daggers (usable ones) |
| 19:12.43 | doom0r | most things just use geoip, but depends |
| 19:13.20 | Slayman | Bruners: I have not spend any time on Rogue post 3.0.2 but imma have a look at the talents now |
| 19:13.31 | doom0r | also, viewing some sites you'd prefer enGB over enUS and vv |
| 19:13.39 | doom0r | well, least i've found reasons |
| 19:13.46 | harl | dunno, most of my programs and whatknot is in english. my wow is partly english and partly german. |
| 19:14.09 | harl | i mostly prefer enGB over enUS |
| 19:14.22 | doom0r | well, it's mostly transcontinental that an issue arises |
| 19:14.31 | harl | usually called English (UK) or whatever |
| 19:14.48 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 19:15.00 | doom0r | mornin |
| 19:15.47 | Slayman | Zhinjio: 'ello |
| 19:16.12 | mitchnull | doomor: I mean, how often do people change their locale (in the client, say from german to english) |
| 19:16.56 | Bruners | Slayman: i just placed points in sub, and 5/5 DW + 5/5 Precision in combat |
| 19:17.13 | mitchnull | doomor: I wanted to store spell names in a locale independent way, but it seems I can't (at least not without babble-spell, which I don't want to use) |
| 19:17.25 | Slayman | Bruners: I can't make up any good skilling without powering Ambush |
| 19:17.41 | mitchnull | doomor: so I'm considering storing their names in the current locale, but that of couse breaks if they switch locales. |
| 19:17.59 | harl | aren't there locale independet internal variables for spell names and stuff? |
| 19:18.08 | Slayman | Bruners: You need to have Burst damage like a lot, and you'll need escape measures too |
| 19:18.40 | doom0r | mitchnull: what harl said? and can you actually change locale? enUS here, so i have no idea |
| 19:19.12 | doom0r | i thought everything referenced the en version |
| 19:19.13 | harl | what do you mean by "can you actually change locale" |
| 19:19.27 | doom0r | i thought client was determined by locale |
| 19:19.40 | doom0r | language irrelevant |
| 19:19.41 | harl | and you can change the clients locale |
| 19:19.48 | doom0r | orly? |
| 19:20.02 | doom0r | is that limited to region? |
| 19:20.12 | harl | what? |
| 19:20.24 | doom0r | us, eu, etc |
| 19:20.47 | harl | it's about languages, not regions. it doesn't matter which locale you use on which servers. |
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| 19:21.52 | doom0r | well, i can't play on an EU server with a us client |
| 19:22.18 | harl | no, but you could play with a german localized client on a us server for that matter. |
| 19:22.56 | doom0r | okay, that's what i was getting at, how the language compares to the client version |
| 19:23.12 | doom0r | unfortunately i only know english |
| 19:23.32 | doom0r | will never let the fact his grandfather never taught him polish go |
| 19:23.43 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina * r2 / (11 files in 4 directories): - Initial commit |
| 19:24.23 | harl | well, you *could* learn polish on your own if you wanted? |
| 19:24.39 | doom0r | mitchnull: based off an assumption, i would think it would lean towards server the person was on |
| 19:24.56 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina * r3 .pkgmeta: - Add .pkgmeta |
| 19:25.00 | doom0r | harl: yes, but the hard coding into the brain really only happens at a very young age |
| 19:25.09 | doom0r | and it would have cost no time/money |
| 19:25.36 | Bruners | Slayman: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=fZ0xVZeMckIhddVkA0ox |
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| 19:25.46 | harl | agreed |
| 19:26.08 | Slayman | Bruners: What EVER you do u cannot omit Malice! |
| 19:26.10 | doom0r | ewww sub, pvp ftl |
| 19:26.34 | doom0r | my rogue has always been pve only |
| 19:27.57 | Slayman | slaughter from the shadows gives you -5 energy for 5 talent points |
| 19:28.00 | Slayman | that sucks |
| 19:28.22 | Bruners | Slayman: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0xZ0xVZeMcdIhddVzA0o like this then ? |
| 19:28.57 | Slayman | Bruners: that's kinda the same i made out of your first proposal |
| 19:29.12 | Slayman | Bruners: Will need testing though |
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| 19:30.09 | Bruners | i miss combat swords :S |
| 19:30.19 | doom0r | i don't |
| 19:30.26 | Slayman | Bruners: But as i said PvP without daggers is sort of a lost cause if you ask me, you could always have IMBA equip and just Combat the Shit of of clothwearers |
| 19:30.33 | doom0r | my rogue is still 62 with a vis'kag ;x |
| 19:30.52 | Slayman | doom0r: and for that we love you ;) |
| 19:31.02 | Pkekyo| | oh fuck me sideways the LK CE is expensive as titties |
| 19:31.15 | doom0r | lol |
| 19:31.26 | doom0r | i checked to see if any were availalbe |
| 19:31.33 | doom0r | and walmart of all places had some |
| 19:31.51 | Pkekyo| | didn't realize how much it was... I pre-ordered it a week ago |
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| 19:31.57 | Antiarc | http://lolatmccain.com/images/mccainhorror_1.gif <-- horrifying |
| 19:32.02 | doom0r | like 70usd |
| 19:32.07 | Slayman | Pkekyo|: as amazon! "It will be avaible from 2pm on" go there 2:03pm: "we are sorry the items is unavaible!" |
| 19:32.13 | Gnarfoz | it's exactly double of the normal edition |
| 19:32.36 | Pkekyo| | Slayman: eh? |
| 19:32.45 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: it's not here |
| 19:32.51 | Slayman | well in GERMANY you cannot get your hands on one anymore |
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| 19:33.01 | Slayman | at least I can't |
| 19:33.04 | Neffi | Is it possible to block a <script> element from executing based on its url location, using Javascript? |
| 19:33.04 | Gnarfoz | pff |
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| 19:33.17 | Gnarfoz | Slayman: try harder, you should be able to get one :p |
| 19:33.24 | mitchnull | slayman: is it possible to switch language in the german client? (to english, for example) |
| 19:33.26 | Slayman | Gnarfoz: HINT me plz! |
| 19:33.27 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: who cares, order it somewhere where it is :p |
| 19:33.38 | Slayman | mitchnull: of course |
| 19:33.40 | Pkekyo| | Gnarfoz: wee bit too late, innit? |
| 19:33.41 | Gnarfoz | mitchnull: yes, like the entire EU wow client collection |
| 19:33.48 | Slayman | mitchnull: grab the English ELP |
| 19:33.55 | Gnarfoz | Pkekyo|: duh :D your own fault, I guess :> |
| 19:34.01 | mitchnull | slayman: ok, and how often do you do that? :) |
| 19:34.11 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 19:34.13 | Gnarfoz | once? |
| 19:34.14 | Pkekyo| | I'd rather be guaranteed one than sitting up all night the 13th scouring the earth for a cheaper one |
| 19:34.30 | Slayman | I do NOT play german, if ppl talk about Eisenschmiede I say: FUCK OFF newb! |
| 19:34.36 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 19:34.41 | Gnarfoz | I played enGB from day one |
| 19:34.41 | Slayman | so yeah english only |
| 19:34.42 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 19:35.04 | doom0r | mitchnull: there's really no reason, i could only see it happening on server switch tbh |
| 19:35.11 | Slayman | "Did somebody order a knuckle sandwich?" = "Eisenfaust" (==Iron Fist) |
| 19:35.14 | Stanzilla | my favorite is Dreschbringer |
| 19:35.17 | mitchnull | slayman: actually, I'll ask in another way: if you had an addon with an option to ignore spells. what would annoy you less? 1) have to ignore all each rank of the spell separately, or 2) the ignore list b0rks if you change language |
| 19:35.19 | Gnarfoz | doom0r: what. |
| 19:35.39 | Gnarfoz | mitchnull: just don't use spell names? >_< |
| 19:35.40 | mitchnull | slayman: uh, not the best person to answer that question then :) |
| 19:35.52 | mitchnull | gnarfoz: unfortunately not an option :( |
| 19:35.54 | doom0r | Gnarfoz: someone who maybe switchs a server that has a different predominant language |
| 19:36.03 | Gnarfoz | this is not about predominant languages :p |
| 19:36.12 | Gnarfoz | why would you change client language in that case. :P |
| 19:36.21 | doom0r | likely not |
| 19:36.31 | doom0r | but depends on how you see a second language in your head |
| 19:36.32 | Gnarfoz | you switch from deDE to enGB because if you have any taste, deDE localization is fucking horrible |
| 19:36.36 | mitchnull | gnarfoz: or give me a way to grab a locale-independent and rank-independent ID for any spell in-game (without hard-coding tables from wowhead) |
| 19:36.48 | Gnarfoz | mitchnull: GetSpellInfo() |
| 19:37.05 | Gnarfoz | just use rank 1 of everything :P |
| 19:37.50 | Slayman | mitchnull mmh can't you get a Spell_ID via the new Combat_log? |
| 19:38.02 | mitchnull | gnarfoz: unfortunately, GetSpellInfo doesn't return spellid in any way :( |
| 19:38.13 | Gnarfoz | mitchnull: no, you FEED it spellid :p |
| 19:38.27 | mitchnull | gnarfoz: I only get the spell name, unfortunately ;) |
| 19:38.32 | mitchnull | I need a spellId from that |
| 19:38.33 | Gnarfoz | why's that? |
| 19:38.44 | mitchnull | actually, I need a spellId of the Rank1 version of that spell |
| 19:38.51 | Antiarc | GetSpellLink |
| 19:38.54 | Antiarc | And get the ID out of that |
| 19:39.04 | Gnarfoz | also, you could just get all 42k spells and then search through that |
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| 19:39.17 | mitchnull | antiarc: doesn't work for rogues (obtaining rank1 of their abilities when they already replaced them with rank2) |
| 19:39.26 | Antiarc | What are you trying to do? |
| 19:40.11 | ulic | honestly all classes new spell ranks should replace the old spell rank, since you can't down rank anymore, it's pointless. |
| 19:40.12 | mitchnull | f(x) -> y where x is a spell name, and y is the spellid of the rank1 version of "x" (if x has ranks), the spellid of x otherwise |
| 19:40.24 | mitchnull | ulic: not entirely pointless |
| 19:40.27 | Antiarc | Why do you need rank 1? |
| 19:40.30 | ulic | maybe not pointless, but mostly pointless. |
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| 19:40.34 | mitchnull | ulic: rank1 frostbolt is still 1sec cast instead of 2.5 |
| 19:40.46 | mitchnull | antiarc: I need to keep a list of spells to ignore |
| 19:40.59 | ulic | ah, guess I need to play more classes :) |
| 19:41.11 | Antiarc | When why worry about rogues? |
| 19:41.12 | Slayman | mitchnull: you may need to start to keep a list of ppl to ignore too ;D |
| 19:41.16 | mitchnull | antiarc: and I'd like to do it in a way that won't require the users to add each rank to this ignore list |
| 19:41.18 | Antiarc | Since you can't cast lower ranks anyhow |
| 19:41.36 | Antiarc | mitchnull: Just GetSpellInfo from the spell ID and check to see if it matches a name on the ignore list? |
| 19:41.42 | ulic | mitchnull: are you dynamically creating this list? Can't you just look them up on wowhead? |
| 19:42.14 | mitchnull | antiarc: say, rogue adds "Kidney shot" to ignore list at lvl 10 (or whatever). I'd like it to work at lvl 70, too (without him needing to re-add Kidney shot (rank2) etc) |
| 19:42.16 | doom0r | kicks Auc's batch post button where the sun don't shine |
| 19:42.27 | Antiarc | mitchnull: I reiterate my previous statement |
| 19:42.48 | mitchnull | antiarc: hm. might work |
| 19:43.05 | ulic | GetSpellInfo(anyrank of kidney shot) will return the name 'Kidney Shot'. |
| 19:43.16 | mitchnull | although a bit more cpu intensive, but gues it should work |
| 19:43.44 | Slayman | I'm kicking it, see ya! |
| 19:44.59 | Antiarc | mitchnull: Just cache the resultso |
| 19:45.05 | Antiarc | So you only have to GetSpellInfo once per spell ID |
| 19:45.07 | mitchnull | yeah, just thought of it ;) |
| 19:45.18 | mitchnull | antiarc: actually, I have a spell name as input |
| 19:45.31 | mitchnull | but yeah, I'll sort it out |
| 19:45.41 | mitchnull | (I just need to store (in db) the spellId) |
| 19:46.17 | AckisWork | ~seen nymbia |
| 19:46.20 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 17d 19h 13m 52s ago, saying: 'lUa?'. |
| 19:46.25 | Antiarc | So, what's with mounts? |
| 19:46.28 | mitchnull | just one more question: is it possible to change language during play, if so, does it result in an aoutmatic /reloadui? |
| 19:46.28 | Antiarc | I can't /use Snowy Gryphon |
| 19:46.33 | Antiarc | But I can /use Swift Palomino |
| 19:46.53 | mitchnull | antiarc: /cast Snowy Gryphon() |
| 19:46.55 | mitchnull | iirc |
| 19:47.29 | Windcape | yeah, you have to supply a blank rank for pets and mounts |
| 19:47.41 | Antiarc | Oy. |
| 19:47.42 | Antiarc | But thanks. |
| 19:47.44 | Windcape | since it's essencial spells now, and got internal hidden ranks |
| 19:47.57 | Gnarfoz | uhm |
| 19:48.03 | doom0r | hmmm, very tempted to force a min price on small prismatics on this server |
| 19:48.04 | Gnarfoz | I use /cast Swift Palomino |
| 19:48.07 | Windcape | to bad they fixed so spellhaste don't affect it :( |
| 19:48.07 | Gnarfoz | without the () |
| 19:48.10 | Gnarfoz | it works fine. |
| 19:48.24 | Windcape | haste don't affect herbalism anymore either :( |
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| 19:49.02 | AckisWork | ~api GetLocale |
| 19:49.03 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetLocale |
| 19:49.28 | Antiarc | I have 14% haste, so yeah, too bad :P |
| 19:52.02 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1012 / (2 files in 1 directory): Ackis Recipe List: |
| 19:52.03 | Repo | - Changed fonts to use a local constant instead of using the name everywhere |
| 19:52.04 | Repo | - If we're on a koKR client use 2002.TTF instead of ARIALN.TTF as per conversation with Next96. |
| 19:52.05 | Repo | - Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p) |
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| 19:56.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1013 AckisRecipeList.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 19:56.47 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
| 19:56.48 | Repo | - Fixed a minor error for the InitializeRecipes function |
| 19:56.49 | Repo | - Removed inscription from the list since the data I have is shitty. |
| 19:56.53 | Repo | - Remove runeforging from the list since it's not implemented yet. |
| 19:57.09 | Stanzilla | ackis is shitty :O |
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| 19:59.55 | EthanCentaurai | ~emulate ackis |
| 19:59.56 | purl | I AM QQing!!! |
| 20:00.52 | AckisWork | :( |
| 20:00.56 | AckisWork | what did I do now? |
| 20:01.29 | doom0r | lol |
| 20:02.46 | Stanzilla | AckisWork: <3 |
| 20:04.32 | Repo | 10links: 03jerry * r104 Links.lua: Links: |
| 20:04.34 | Repo | _ Fix Menu options. |
| 20:04.35 | Repo | _ Add spell icons. |
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| 20:08.18 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03anmoch * r22 libs/LibDataBroker-1.1 (2 files in 1 directory): Add dummy LibDataBroker file |
| 20:08.18 | Repo | This will likely break lots of things and is a bad idea anyway, but |
| 20:08.20 | Repo | hopefully it also gets Anadale unstuck. |
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| 20:16.41 | Slayman | just for clarification: i need 12500 Gold + selfmade mats to build my chopper? that's ridiculous! |
| 20:17.30 | pentium166 | is that buying all of the mats to level engineering from skill 1? |
| 20:18.04 | Slayman | nope that is JUST the mats to build to bike |
| 20:18.14 | AckisWork | lol wow |
| 20:18.19 | Slayman | 8 pistons 1k a piece |
| 20:18.43 | Slayman | 1 iron golem part(s) 3k a piece |
| 20:18.48 | pentium166 | obviously motorbikes are more expensive than helicopters |
| 20:19.06 | nevcairiel | wowhead claims the pistons are 250 a piece |
| 20:19.11 | Slayman | 1 exhaust pipe 1,5k a pop |
| 20:19.26 | nevcairiel | and the golem 750g |
| 20:19.30 | Slayman | nevcairiel: SELL Value (1/4 of Buy value) |
| 20:19.58 | nevcairiel | oh stupid wowhead |
| 20:20.12 | Slayman | nope they all do that thottbot too |
| 20:21.01 | Slayman | http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=44500;source=live |
| 20:21.08 | Slayman | there you go :D |
| 20:22.33 | Slayman | how much was that 3person vendor carrying mammoth? |
| 20:22.44 | nevcairiel | 25k or so |
| 20:23.02 | NivFreak | 20K |
| 20:23.03 | NivFreak | last I saw |
| 20:23.05 | doom0r | curses the heat |
| 20:23.06 | NivFreak | did they up it? |
| 20:23.11 | Slayman | close enough I'd say |
| 20:23.13 | doom0r | it should be 40 here and it's over 70 |
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| 20:23.30 | nevcairiel | ah nah its 20k |
| 20:23.35 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 20:23.36 | NivFreak | good |
| 20:23.41 | NivFreak | I have like 21K |
| 20:23.46 | NivFreak | guess what I'm buying! |
| 20:23.54 | Slayman | cheat0r! |
| 20:23.57 | nevcairiel | i have only 10k :( |
| 20:23.59 | Slayman | i have like 1k |
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| 20:24.14 | Jaxon | 20k before faction discount. |
| 20:24.14 | Repo | 10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r10 mainline/GuildManagementTools (2 files in 2 directories): Added Debug mode. |
| 20:24.15 | Repo | Added localization tokens. |
| 20:24.23 | NeoTron | 16k at exalted! |
| 20:24.29 | nevcairiel | wasnt the NPC faction-less? |
| 20:24.30 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 20:24.32 | pentium166 | what a steal |
| 20:24.39 | NivFreak | the NPC is kirin tor |
| 20:24.40 | Jaxon | Slayman: I'm behind on stuff, what is this bike you speak of? Engineering thing? |
| 20:24.44 | NeoTron | that's what I thought |
| 20:24.47 | NivFreak | but I haven't found a lot of quests to get faction with kirin tor yet |
| 20:24.49 | NivFreak | just a couple |
| 20:24.53 | NivFreak | some JC turnins |
| 20:24.58 | NivFreak | voilet hold quests |
| 20:25.00 | NivFreak | violet |
| 20:25.01 | NeoTron | daily instance quests no? |
| 20:25.03 | pentium166 | are there instances to run? |
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| 20:25.09 | NeoTron | plus championing |
| 20:25.16 | Jaxon | Too bad a mount like that isn't accoun tbound so you can benefit from having portable repair/reagents on your levelling alts. |
| 20:25.21 | nevcairiel | yeah get the damn tabard from them and run instances |
| 20:25.38 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale * r23 libs/LibDataBroker-1.1/LibDataBroker-1.1.lua: UnderHood: |
| 20:25.39 | Repo | - LibDataBroker-1.1 added to the list of libraries |
| 20:25.45 | NeoTron | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=43157 |
| 20:26.01 | nevcairiel | that system is kinda cool |
| 20:26.20 | NeoTron | Jaxon: frankly at least in northrend vendors are so frequent I never had an issue with that |
| 20:26.21 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 20:26.22 | NivFreak | interesting |
| 20:26.23 | nevcairiel | not bound by "I need to run tempest keep instances, need reputation" |
| 20:26.34 | NivFreak | the best part about that mount is |
| 20:26.36 | NeoTron | I'm not quite sure I will spend the money on it since the benefit is so small |
| 20:26.40 | NivFreak | you can jump of a HUGE cliff |
| 20:26.44 | nevcairiel | now its just "I need reputation, lets run our favorite instance" |
| 20:26.45 | NivFreak | and it takes the fall dmg for you |
| 20:26.47 | NivFreak | and despawns |
| 20:26.50 | NeoTron | it's shared with the motorcycle mount |
| 20:26.51 | EthanCentaurai | can I use AceGUI-3.0 to make a frame with clickable lines or do I need Tablet-2.0? |
| 20:26.51 | NivFreak | then you remount and keep going |
| 20:27.09 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: i bet they will change that to give you the spill-over falldmg =P |
| 20:27.22 | NeoTron | I'd gladly buy a multi-passenger flying mount though |
| 20:27.29 | NivFreak | nevcairiel: some day, but I just need to make it to 77 before I don't care anymore :) |
| 20:27.30 | NeoTron | so I can go herbing/mining with dual account setup |
| 20:27.31 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 041.3.9 * r24 : Tagging as 1.3.9. |
| 20:27.45 | pentium166 | they should make it like tribes, and you don't take damage if you land on a hill going downwards and get a speed boost |
| 20:27.54 | NivFreak | so the question is, where do you get a kirin tor tabard |
| 20:27.55 | NeoTron | the best thing though is that you (still) can mount on the DK flying mount WHILE mounted on the mammoth |
| 20:28.06 | NeoTron | so when you dismount the mammoth you remain on the flying mount, flying :P |
| 20:28.06 | NivFreak | NeoTron: lol |
| 20:28.28 | Gnarfoz | <@nevcairiel> now its just "I need reputation, lets run our favorite instance" <-- even better: "lets run that instance I still need a drop from" :D |
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| 20:28.38 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 20:28.41 | NeoTron | championing ftw |
| 20:29.03 | NivFreak | lol |
| 20:29.07 | NivFreak | that tabard is hilarious |
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| 20:29.16 | NivFreak | giant cock |
| 20:29.54 | NeoTron | seems like it's hard to get sufficient rep with them |
| 20:29.57 | NeoTron | like the rep is unfinished |
| 20:30.05 | NeoTron | i.e even getting friendly is tricky if you're not a JC |
| 20:30.11 | NivFreak | yea |
| 20:30.25 | NivFreak | I'm just going to buy a port from the first mage to hit 74 |
| 20:30.26 | NeoTron | crystalsong forest seems incomplete (no quests) |
| 20:30.42 | NeoTron | NivFreak: mages need only level 71 I beieve |
| 20:30.43 | NivFreak | yea, they clearly cut shit short |
| 20:30.48 | NivFreak | NeoTron: for self port |
| 20:30.51 | NivFreak | group port is 74 |
| 20:30.54 | Gnarfoz | still no NPCs in crystalsong? |
| 20:31.02 | NivFreak | Gnarfoz: there are mobs |
| 20:31.10 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: no there aer npc's including alliance/horde hubs |
| 20:31.10 | Gnarfoz | that's a start |
| 20:31.13 | NeoTron | with vendors |
| 20:31.21 | NeoTron | NivFreak: ah didn't know that |
| 20:31.33 | NivFreak | I'm like a bubble from 77 |
| 20:31.39 | NivFreak | and haven't logged into beta since 3.0.2 hit |
| 20:31.44 | NivFreak | achievements are crack |
| 20:31.46 | NeoTron | I logged bac on beta to work on MagicRunes last night |
| 20:32.00 | NeoTron | hadn't been there since 3.0.2 either |
| 20:32.19 | doom0r | NivFreak: truth |
| 20:32.37 | NivFreak | so apparently you can still get hand of adal titles |
| 20:32.49 | NivFreak | because the old vials quests is distinct, and can still be shared |
| 20:33.04 | nevcairiel | they never said they would remove the quest |
| 20:33.10 | nevcairiel | you just dont get the title anymore |
| 20:33.29 | nevcairiel | (or did they replace the quest with another one, and not change the old one?) |
| 20:33.29 | NivFreak | no, you DO get the title |
| 20:33.29 | kilrogg | evenin' |
| 20:33.33 | NivFreak | there's a NEW vials of eternity quest |
| 20:33.35 | NivFreak | that does NOT reward it |
| 20:33.41 | NivFreak | but if you have the old one, or can get it shared with you |
| 20:33.43 | EthanCentaurai | good evening Kilrogg |
| 20:33.44 | NivFreak | you still get credit |
| 20:33.53 | NivFreak | and get the title/achievement |
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| 20:34.40 | NeoTron | NivFreak: lol |
| 20:34.42 | NeoTron | lame |
| 20:34.59 | NeoTron | EthanCentaurai: err. Kilrogg? |
| 20:35.19 | EthanCentaurai | aye, kilrogg |
| 20:35.30 | NeoTron | plays on Kilrogg US... |
| 20:35.44 | NeoTron | but I figured this was more a general addon dev forum rather than Kilrogg addon dev forum ;-) |
| 20:35.45 | Jaxon | Which sucks, because after I hadn't killed Magtheridon for the title, I abandoned the quest to make room for Tirisfal quests and now I won't ever be able to get the title. |
| 20:35.45 | doom0r | cladhaire: ping |
| 20:36.19 | AckisWork | can I make a function local across my addon (multiple files) but not accessible outside of my addon? |
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| 20:37.01 | NeoTron | AckisWork: put it in addon:function and then make local references in all files and then do addon.function = nil in the last file you load |
| 20:37.28 | AckisWork | eh that's the only way eh? too much effort for very little to no gain |
| 20:37.53 | AckisWork | btw there's local function foo(), function addon:foo() and then function foo()... what's the last one do differently than the first two? |
| 20:39.47 | NeoTron | what do you mean? |
| 20:40.02 | NeoTron | one is local, one has an implied "self" reference and the last is global |
| 20:40.09 | EthanCentaurai | local function foo() and function addon:foo() are two separate entities, whereas function foo() will overwrite local function foo() if in the same file |
| 20:40.30 | AckisWork | yah I don't personally use the last one: function foo() however I've seen it used before |
| 20:40.42 | NeoTron | man opportunity lost - should have infected a low level alt of all guild members and then saved those alts for a year or so and then go on a zombie rampage ... :P |
| 20:40.47 | Repo | 10digits: 03Satrina 041.0.0 * r4 : Tagging as 1.0.0. |
| 20:41.00 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: lol damn |
| 20:41.02 | NeoTron | AckisWork: typically you want to avoid it since it will pollute the global namespace |
| 20:41.02 | EthanCentaurai | local function foo() cannot be called outside of the file it was created in, but function foo() and function addon:foo() can be called by anyone/anything |
| 20:41.02 | AckisWork | NeoTron: they took the debuff off my bank alt it looked like when I logged into him |
| 20:41.10 | NeoTron | AckisWork: bummer! |
| 20:41.42 | NeoTron | it'd been comedy gold to do a zombie rush far in the future |
| 20:41.47 | NeoTron | zombie dalaran :P |
| 20:41.48 | mitchnull | ethan: that last part is only true if addon itself is accessible :) |
| 20:42.07 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r99 / (3 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 20:42.08 | Repo | - Fixes for the data miner |
| 20:42.08 | Repo | - Updated database |
| 20:42.31 | mitchnull | liblordfarlander? wth? |
| 20:42.45 | AckisWork | wtf he's using a dataminer? |
| 20:42.55 | AckisWork | svn delete liblordfarlander-2.0 |
| 20:42.56 | AckisWork | errr |
| 20:43.01 | AckisWork | whistles innocently. |
| 20:44.02 | [Ammo] | it was a generic name first |
| 20:44.07 | [Ammo] | but I renamed it to LibLordFarlander |
| 20:44.09 | [Ammo] | :p |
| 20:44.10 | AckisWork | knows |
| 20:44.12 | [Ammo] | he kept the name |
| 20:44.12 | Zhinjio | is "this" a reserved word? |
| 20:44.14 | AckisWork | you should've nuked it :( |
| 20:44.26 | nevcairiel | Zhinjio: no, just a convention, and a bad one =P |
| 20:44.31 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: wow api uses it sadly |
| 20:44.34 | EthanCentaurai | begins to multitask... he begins to write a new addon whilst listening to Mike Oldfield on iTunes. |
| 20:44.45 | AckisWork | hey Zhinjio |
| 20:44.46 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: the FrameXML mostly stopped doing so :) |
| 20:44.54 | AckisWork | I think I fixed that font issue I was talking to you about the other day |
| 20:44.55 | Zhinjio | Heya Ackis |
| 20:45.04 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: sure but references still exist right? |
| 20:45.11 | Zhinjio | alrighty. |
| 20:45.16 | nevcairiel | I didnt see any so far |
| 20:45.18 | NivFreak | sooo |
| 20:45.21 | nevcairiel | but i didnt check in depth |
| 20:45.40 | NivFreak | thoughts on a DKP system with min bids, min increments, and visable bidding? |
| 20:45.43 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel: the wow API still sets "this" correctly and properly, even though unused by the wow default ui code anymore |
| 20:45.43 | Repo | 10mindreader: 03Wintrow2 * r2 / (8 files in 2 directories): First commit... showtime! |
| 20:46.01 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: you ditching SKG? |
| 20:46.10 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: at 80, yes |
| 20:46.14 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 20:46.16 | EthanCentaurai | are there any AceGUI-3.0 tutorials on AceForge or am I being dumb? |
| 20:46.19 | NivFreak | too many ways to exploit the system, sorry to say |
| 20:46.23 | NivFreak | we used it for all of TBC |
| 20:46.41 | Zhinjio | Its not really designed for hardcore raiders. |
| 20:46.52 | NivFreak | well, we're not exactly hardcore |
| 20:46.55 | NivFreak | I call us casualcore |
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| 20:47.04 | NivFreak | we raid very seriously, but only 6-7 hours a week |
| 20:47.08 | mitchnull | nivfreak: ditch dkp |
| 20:47.25 | NivFreak | mitchnull: I think you missed the point :) |
| 20:47.33 | mitchnull | niv: could be :) |
| 20:47.45 | NivFreak | I refuse to loot council |
| 20:48.02 | mitchnull | need/greed ftw |
| 20:48.05 | mitchnull | :P |
| 20:48.12 | NivFreak | been there, done that, seen the drama |
| 20:48.19 | mitchnull | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.26 | NivFreak | empty guilds do no raiding |
| 20:48.31 | mitchnull | oh well, pointless discussion :) <eot> |
| 20:48.44 | NivFreak | turns out that /random leaves some people with bad luck, without drops |
| 20:49.11 | NivFreak | and even good players will leave if they get no drops |
| 20:49.14 | NivFreak | ever |
| 20:49.18 | AckisWork | I'm of the mind that whoever clicks first gets the item |
| 20:49.23 | NivFreak | lol |
| 20:49.25 | mitchnull | ackis: :) |
| 20:49.25 | AckisWork | hence FFA is the best way to go |
| 20:49.25 | NivFreak | tanks get all loot clearly |
| 20:49.37 | NivFreak | I accidently left FFA on after vashj |
| 20:49.39 | kenlyric | empty guilds do better raiding than bad guilds |
| 20:49.42 | mitchnull | niv: nah, healers should stop healing around 1% :) |
| 20:49.43 | kenlyric | nothing is worth bad raiding |
| 20:49.54 | kenlyric | Either do it well, or don't do it all. |
| 20:50.04 | AckisWork | I'm hoping there's another nef like encounter in wrath where I can kill people I raid with (priest call ftw) |
| 20:50.04 | NivFreak | kenlyric: we cleared every instance pre-sunwell in ~7 months on 6-7 hours a week, we must not be doing too bad |
| 20:50.18 | NivFreak | starting in kara gear |
| 20:50.25 | NivFreak | in a fresh guild |
| 20:50.47 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i know that :p |
| 20:51.02 | NeoTron | NivFreak: 3 of the instances post-3.0! (just kidding) |
| 20:51.14 | mitchnull | niv: dkp caused more gripe than joy in my previous guild. we do without dkp now and it works fine, and (usually) everyone is happy :) |
| 20:51.33 | NivFreak | NeoTron: lol |
| 20:51.38 | NeoTron | unfortunately my little 10-man guild failed to get the group for Kil'jaeden again but at least we wupped the first 5 in a mix of geared/experienced players and completely new ppl |
| 20:51.45 | NivFreak | our only kills post 3.0 were sunwell |
| 20:51.52 | doom0r | hmmm, my broom had 4 days for over a day, not it has 14 days today |
| 20:51.57 | doom0r | now* |
| 20:52.10 | pentium166 | those brooms are retarded in arena |
| 20:52.51 | NivFreak | mitchnull: bad dkp systems cause drama, everyone knows that |
| 20:52.53 | doom0r | i think they flushed/pushed something |
| 20:53.00 | NivFreak | mitchnull: there are many ways to do DKP |
| 20:53.01 | mitchnull | niv: all dpk systems are bad |
| 20:53.03 | pentium166 | I wonder if there are any QQ threads on the forums about them yet |
| 20:53.11 | doom0r | commoners where there with the hh quest prereq still yesterday |
| 20:53.17 | NivFreak | mitchnull: because you've worked with all DKP systems? sure right |
| 20:53.37 | NivFreak | pentium166: doesn't matter much, 14 day duration |
| 20:53.42 | NivFreak | and s4 is over |
| 20:53.43 | mitchnull | every dkp system is more work than pressing need or /roll, so yes :) |
| 20:54.14 | mitchnull | niv: but as I said, obviously pointless argument, so let's stop :) |
| 20:54.15 | NivFreak | it takes work to do things right |
| 20:54.26 | pentium166 | maybe, but that only matters to the people who wanted titles |
| 20:54.32 | mitchnull | it takes a good guild to do things fun :P |
| 20:55.18 | mitchnull | goes back to fixing cooldowntogo for them pesky rogues |
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| 20:56.59 | mitchnull | is it worth caching the result of GetSpellInfo() (called with spellname as argument), or it's fast enough as is? (or should I just zark off and test for myself? :) |
| 20:57.36 | Zeksie | go test :) |
| 20:58.03 | mitchnull | zeksie: it's only called at button press. does it change the answer to "don't bother then" ? :) |
| 20:58.06 | Zeksie | personally. i wouldn't cache them tho |
| 20:58.16 | Zhinjio | I agree with Elkano, something in the latest Fortress build is making tooltips go away |
| 20:58.17 | Zeksie | absolutely do not bother ;) |
| 21:00.10 | Dashkal | servers are lem and orwell |
| 21:02.41 | doom0r | WTB Blizz's algorithm for finding the way to make you waste as much time as possible |
| 21:03.19 | Xinhuan | easy, make every rare mount drop rate 1% |
| 21:03.31 | Xinhuan | 5% for the ones with instance timer lockouts |
| 21:03.32 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 21:04.00 | Zeksie | oh sigh... same problem with Blood Frenzy as with Savage Combat :| |
| 21:04.01 | Dashkal | 1? Way too high |
| 21:04.08 | Xinhuan | well baron mount is 1% now |
| 21:04.24 | nevcairiel | and its way too high |
| 21:04.30 | nevcairiel | everyone and their mom has one now |
| 21:04.34 | doom0r | they're still teasign me with Pattern: Star Belt |
| 21:05.31 | mitchnull | what is the new table clearing funct? table.wipe? |
| 21:05.42 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 21:05.46 | EthanCentaurai | can clickable lines be created in an AceGUI Frame or do I need Tablet? |
| 21:06.08 | Xinhuan | you can just call wipe() |
| 21:06.11 | mitchnull | nev: is it good to use? I remember someone wanted to test its performance |
| 21:06.18 | Xinhuan | you can /print table.wipe == wipe |
| 21:06.18 | mitchnull | xin: ah, it was you |
| 21:06.24 | nevcairiel | its probably better then clearing it yourself |
| 21:06.31 | nevcairiel | because its in C |
| 21:06.43 | Xinhuan | you still need your own wipe function though, IF you need a recursive one |
| 21:06.49 | Xinhuan | since the blizz one is not recursive |
| 21:06.51 | mitchnull | nope |
| 21:06.57 | mitchnull | just a simple key,value set |
| 21:07.00 | AckisWork | there's a table wiping function? added in 3.02? |
| 21:07.03 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 21:07.14 | EthanCentaurai | gives up and makes a cup of coffee |
| 21:07.16 | AckisWork | faster than a for loop? |
| 21:07.16 | nevcairiel | the blizz one clears the table and throws everything away, including recursive tables =P |
| 21:07.51 | Xinhuan | well by non-recursive i mean |
| 21:07.51 | Pneumatus | faster than table = {}? |
| 21:08.10 | Xinhuan | wipe(t) <-- if t contains referenecs to other tables, those tables aren't touched |
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| 21:08.31 | mitchnull | xin: is it worth to "local wipe = wipe" ? or it's somehow "magic" |
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| 21:08.36 | Xinhuan | you can do it mitchnull |
| 21:08.46 | Xinhuan | wont' hurt to do it |
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| 21:08.50 | mitchnull | ok |
| 21:08.57 | Xinhuan | well it hurts 4 bytes of memory ;p |
| 21:08.57 | Pneumatus | does wipe call the GC straight away or something (to make it more desirable than t = {})? |
| 21:09.11 | Xinhuan | Pneumatus: t = {} makes a new table |
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| 21:09.21 | Xinhuan | wipe(t) uses the same one |
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| 21:09.34 | Xinhuan | avoiding new tables is generally good |
| 21:09.47 | nevcairiel | depends |
| 21:09.58 | nevcairiel | sometimes clearing it is more expensive then the GC eating it |
| 21:10.16 | Pneumatus | depending on the size of the table? |
| 21:10.19 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:10.22 | Xinhuan | i wonder if anyone cares enough to do some tests |
| 21:10.27 | Xinhuan | on how effective wipe() is |
| 21:10.48 | mitchnull | oh, reminds me, ag` reported that 10FPS refresh rate is not "nice enough" for smooth fading (text alpha goes 1.0 -> 0 in about 1sec). what would be an acceptable framerate for this? |
| 21:10.57 | Zhinjio | question, just so I make sure I'm sane |
| 21:11.08 | nevcairiel | 25 |
| 21:11.27 | Zhinjio | if I do a for k, v in pairs ... and then IN that loop, I add another index into the table ... the loop isn't going to know about it, is it? |
| 21:11.36 | Fisker- | BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS |
| 21:11.51 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: you will get undefined behavior |
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| 21:11.56 | Xinhuan | and the loop may error out |
| 21:11.56 | Zhinjio | crap |
| 21:12.11 | mitchnull | UB is teh win ;) |
| 21:12.12 | Zhinjio | ok, no problem. I'll store everything in a temp table then |
| 21:12.18 | Pneumatus | adding to tables while looping makes baby jesuses cry |
| 21:12.22 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: I found a graphical glitch in omen earlier, btw. |
| 21:12.32 | Pneumatus | (i tried it once, it was interesting) |
| 21:12.43 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} for i = 1, 10 do t[i] = i end for k,v in pairs(t) do t[12] = 12 end |
| 21:12.43 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: No output |
| 21:12.48 | Xinhuan | hah that didn't fail |
| 21:13.01 | Xinhuan | but anyway, it can fail |
| 21:13.06 | Xinhuan | with some crytpic error |
| 21:13.12 | nevcairiel | I dont think it actually errors |
| 21:13.17 | nevcairiel | it may just skip elements and stuff |
| 21:13.18 | Xinhuan | it does, i've seen it before |
| 21:13.28 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} for i = 1, 10 do t[i] = i end for k,v in pairs(t) do t[k+10] = 12 end |
| 21:13.29 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: not enough memory |
| 21:13.34 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 21:13.36 | Zhinjio | I've definitely seen problems if you delete indexes in the table |
| 21:13.41 | Xinhuan | lua> t = {} for i = 1, 10 do t[i] = i end for k,v in pairs(t) do t[k+100] = 12 end |
| 21:13.41 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: No output |
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| 21:13.44 | Zhinjio | while looping |
| 21:13.53 | Pneumatus | what i've seen happening is, if you add to the table while looping, the loop can sometimes end prematurely |
| 21:14.09 | Pneumatus | and not even iterate over the items in the table at the start of the loop |
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| 21:14.45 | Xinhuan | what glitch btw Zhinjio |
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| 21:15.37 | doom0r | You are a tree! Shhh! |
| 21:15.44 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: if on first load, you hit the omen button to override and display the frame, the header line is actually wider than the omen frame and sticks out. I can screenie that if you like. |
| 21:16.02 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 21:16.05 | Xinhuan | no need to screenit |
| 21:16.07 | Xinhuan | screenie |
| 21:16.08 | Zhinjio | if you undisplay and display again, and/or any attempt to display the frame after that, the header line is not there |
| 21:16.11 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 21:16.24 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 21:16.24 | Zhinjio | its not a huge deal, clearly |
| 21:16.25 | Repo | - added minimum amounts for non player level 70+ shields |
| 21:16.26 | Repo | - added talent "Twin Disciplines" to shield calculations |
| 21:16.27 | Repo | - corrected the formular for the amount of PW:shield (seems to be 99% accurate now) |
| 21:16.30 | Zhinjio | just happened to notice it |
| 21:16.31 | Repo | - recoded and cleared up handling of out of order absorb-/aure_removed-messages |
| 21:16.32 | doom0r | is that that little bar appearing? |
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| 21:19.11 | Fisker- | destroys Xinhuan |
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| 21:20.47 | EthanCentaurai | ~fail |
| 21:20.47 | purl | Sorry, EthanCentaurai, you have failed. Please insert $1.00 to try again. |
| 21:20.53 | EthanCentaurai | drat |
| 21:21.01 | EthanCentaurai | ~you fail |
| 21:21.02 | purl | ACTION slaps ethancentaurai for calling her a failure |
| 21:21.13 | EthanCentaurai | :( |
| 21:22.31 | Gngsk | weab, ping |
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| 21:26.30 | NeoTron | ~seen Zeksie |
| 21:26.33 | purl | zeksie is currently on #wowuidev (3h 9m 37s) #wowace (3h 9m 37s) #curseforge (3h 9m 37s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 22m 33s, last said: 'oh sigh... same problem with Blood Frenzy as with Savage Combat :|'. |
| 21:26.59 | NeoTron | Zeksie: I fixified xperl player frame creeping in case you didn't notice |
| 21:28.18 | mitchnull | lua> t = {}; a = nil; t[a] = 1; print(t[a]); |
| 21:28.19 | lua_bot | mitchnull: luabot:1: table index is nil |
| 21:28.35 | mitchnull | guessed so... |
| 21:29.22 | NivFreak | NeoTron: MagicDKP missed about 10 bosses in my last raid? |
| 21:29.23 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 21:30.45 | NeoTron | NivFreak: doubtful? ;-) |
| 21:31.02 | NeoTron | mind you I haven't used MagicDKP since 3.0 but I don't think any events it relied on changed? |
| 21:31.03 | NivFreak | it did |
| 21:31.04 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:31.12 | NivFreak | I don't know |
| 21:31.16 | NivFreak | but CT_RT broke too |
| 21:31.22 | NivFreak | and it's successor RaidTracker |
| 21:31.27 | NeoTron | CT_RT is, by default, broken |
| 21:31.32 | NeoTron | it was never not broken |
| 21:31.43 | NeoTron | but I guess next time I run a raid i'll have to use MagicDKP and see what happens |
| 21:31.49 | NivFreak | well, it reliably recorded boss kills and loot events for almost 2 yeasr :) |
| 21:31.51 | NivFreak | years |
| 21:32.03 | NeoTron | NivFreak: and it never reliably recorded attendance for me |
| 21:32.12 | NivFreak | likely |
| 21:32.13 | NeoTron | so perhaps works in some narrow use case but often did not work |
| 21:32.32 | NivFreak | I need a reliable addon come wrath, doesn't matter much atm |
| 21:32.35 | NeoTron | and part of it is combined with the braindead CTRT importer into eqdkp but still |
| 21:32.52 | NivFreak | god |
| 21:32.59 | NivFreak | I stopped using eqdkp because of that |
| 21:33.14 | Arrowmaster | that importer is so fucking fail |
| 21:33.22 | NivFreak | yes |
| 21:33.26 | Arrowmaster | i just plain stoped using dkp because of that |
| 21:33.35 | Pneumatus | eqdkp by definition is fail |
| 21:33.37 | NivFreak | I really want something that doesn't suck |
| 21:33.40 | fewyn | wish there where alternatives to eqdkp |
| 21:33.42 | NivFreak | I need a full solution though |
| 21:33.43 | fewyn | that didn't suck |
| 21:33.54 | EvilJohn | use NRT and write your own exporter |
| 21:33.58 | EvilJohn | pretty easy to do |
| 21:33.59 | NivFreak | addon to monitor attendance, loot drops, bids, adjustments |
| 21:34.01 | fewyn | i'd code something myself but i suck at coding |
| 21:34.07 | NivFreak | and a website to display the info |
| 21:34.20 | Pneumatus | use need/greed buttons to remove all stress :> |
| 21:34.39 | Pneumatus | and rely on the game of chance |
| 21:34.46 | NivFreak | twice |
| 21:34.47 | NivFreak | :P |
| 21:34.50 | fewyn | i don't like the game of chance |
| 21:34.51 | fewyn | sorry |
| 21:34.55 | NivFreak | haven't we all learned that people hate RNG? |
| 21:35.02 | NivFreak | and to deal with it twice per drop? :P |
| 21:35.05 | fewyn | rng always screws you over |
| 21:35.14 | fewyn | which is why i prefer dkp |
| 21:35.23 | fewyn | i used to manage dkp on pen and paper |
| 21:35.30 | fewyn | pre-bc |
| 21:36.05 | sacarasc | fewyn wins! |
| 21:36.42 | fewyn | keywords are "used to" |
| 21:36.43 | Pneumatus | im guessing it was a fairly straight-forward system |
| 21:36.47 | fewyn | became too much oif a hassel |
| 21:37.07 | fewyn | moved to eqdkp but it's a bit bulky and old |
| 21:37.20 | NivFreak | the biggest problem was the importer |
| 21:37.30 | NivFreak | well |
| 21:37.31 | NivFreak | ok |
| 21:37.35 | NivFreak | the entire thing sucked ass |
| 21:37.36 | *** part/#wowace kilrogg (n=kilrogg@muedsl-82-207-245-251.citykom.de) |
| 21:37.42 | Jaxon | I've been quite happy since I left the guild I was in that used EQ(DKP). I'm now a proud follower of the Thunder Billies "Don't be an asshole" loot distribution system. |
| 21:37.58 | Jaxon | I put the brackets around the wrong letters. |
| 21:38.06 | Pneumatus | it has retarded denormalizations though |
| 21:38.24 | fewyn | i don't like loot council either |
| 21:38.32 | fewyn | i like things to be fair |
| 21:38.33 | Pneumatus | making it a nightmare to customise for a specific set of dkp rules |
| 21:38.35 | fewyn | when it comes to loot |
| 21:38.53 | Pneumatus | loot council, more like popularity contest, amirite |
| 21:38.56 | fewyn | if you come to raids be prepared and do well you'll get your dkp to spend |
| 21:38.58 | fewyn | yep Pneumatus |
| 21:39.14 | NivFreak | loot council is perfect in a perfect world |
| 21:39.18 | NivFreak | but I've never seen it done right :) |
| 21:39.25 | NivFreak | and it always leads to the worst drama when done wrong |
| 21:39.28 | NeoTron | Jaxon: loot in my new guild is like that |
| 21:39.31 | NeoTron | 10 man guild ftw |
| 21:39.34 | Pneumatus | loot council is always floored by popularity |
| 21:39.36 | Zhinjio | we default to loot council when SKG isn't working or the lists are borked |
| 21:39.37 | NivFreak | I'm a strong believer in transparency |
| 21:39.52 | NeoTron | tank gear to the two tanks first, then to me (DPS DK) and if I don't want it to the holy pally |
| 21:40.03 | NivFreak | make it clear what people have to do to get thier drops, and keep all the data out there for them to see |
| 21:40.11 | fewyn | yea we're doing 10 man in wotlk |
| 21:40.15 | fewyn | so it's going to be easier |
| 21:40.16 | NeoTron | it'll be nice not to worry about tracking DKP and worse track down mistakes and stuff ("oh I missed standby because I crashed" etc) |
| 21:40.21 | fewyn | i still prefer to use dkp tho |
| 21:40.24 | fewyn | so people don't whine |
| 21:40.31 | NeoTron | get better ppl? :P |
| 21:40.39 | fewyn | doesn't always work =p |
| 21:40.42 | NeoTron | we never used DKP in Karazhan or ZA since with 10 ppl there's usually not a need |
| 21:40.49 | NivFreak | my biggest problem is, we always have 20 solid people, and 5 rotating spots |
| 21:40.50 | smcn | yeah, anyone who whines about loot probably shouldn't be raiding :P |
| 21:40.58 | NivFreak | and those 5 rotating spots are the source of 90% of the drama |
| 21:41.03 | fewyn | ^ |
| 21:41.10 | Pneumatus | yeh, we only use DKP for 25-man, 10-man is for off-nights and is need/greed |
| 21:41.15 | fewyn | it'll be less of an issue in 10 man enviroment |
| 21:41.24 | NivFreak | I'm sticking with 25mans for wrath |
| 21:41.30 | NivFreak | so it's still something I have to worry about ;) |
| 21:41.34 | fewyn | we don't have the people for 25 mans on my server :( |
| 21:41.36 | NivFreak | SKG worked great for 10mans btw |
| 21:41.41 | fewyn | all our guilds transfered off |
| 21:41.47 | NivFreak | it's basically need/greed with some rebalancing |
| 21:41.47 | fewyn | to cho'gal |
| 21:41.52 | nudave | what realm few? |
| 21:42.08 | fewyn | cho'gal is more like fail'gal for stealing all our sunwell guilds |
| 21:42.20 | fewyn | no one wants to transfer to norgannon |
| 21:42.40 | nudave | is this the same fewyn thats on allakhazam? |
| 21:42.51 | fewyn | Yes |
| 21:43.00 | nudave | k, thought so :x |
| 21:43.10 | fewyn | I am the one and only Fewyn! |
| 21:43.15 | fewyn | =p |
| 21:50.30 | cladhaire | doom0r: pong |
| 21:50.55 | doom0r | hey, where would you prefer enchancement/feature suggestions for your stuff? |
| 21:51.14 | cladhaire | email, google code, |
| 21:51.16 | cladhaire | depends on the addon |
| 21:51.22 | doom0r | tomtom |
| 21:51.58 | cladhaire | well lets talk now, whatcha looking for? |
| 21:52.11 | doom0r | a seperate scaling for the text below the arrow |
| 21:52.19 | cladhaire | easy enough |
| 21:52.57 | doom0r | also, when disabling click on arrow, it seems a very small little block is still there in the way of the world |
| 21:53.18 | cladhaire | can you /dtframestack and see what part it is? |
| 21:54.11 | Fisker- | cladhaire our love will last forever >:3 |
| 21:54.20 | doom0r | lemme get devtools |
| 21:54.24 | cladhaire | Fisker-: even tho we're no longer on the same server? ;( |
| 21:54.29 | cladhaire | i miss you already! |
| 21:54.55 | Fisker- | YOU TRANSFERRED |
| 21:54.56 | Fisker- | BASTARD |
| 21:55.31 | cladhaire | truth |
| 21:55.35 | Shefki | You could transfer to have a one night stand of a month. |
| 21:55.36 | cladhaire | to the wrong server too =/ |
| 21:55.46 | Shefki | And then go back. :P |
| 21:56.01 | Fisker- | ownt cladhaire |
| 21:56.14 | cladhaire | truth |
| 21:56.27 | Fisker- | that's what you get for transferring |
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| 21:57.28 | cladhaire | aye |
| 21:57.33 | cladhaire | 15/85 ally/horde |
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| 21:58.03 | doom0r | cladhaire: TomTomCrazyArrow |
| 21:58.11 | doom0r | <1> |
| 21:58.23 | doom0r | under medium |
| 21:58.38 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 21:58.40 | cladhaire | can you email these two things to me |
| 21:58.46 | doom0r | sure |
| 21:58.48 | cladhaire | that way when I get a chance I can code it up |
| 21:59.07 | nevcairiel | thats what i use those twenty textfiles on my desktop for |
| 21:59.19 | cladhaire | yeah eff that |
| 21:59.20 | mitchnull | clad: would you consider adding LDB support to TomTom (for the coords part) ? the current coords display doesn't fit with the rest of my "status line" :) |
| 21:59.23 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 21:59.23 | cladhaire | i can't check those from work |
| 21:59.25 | cladhaire | where I code |
| 21:59.27 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 21:59.30 | cladhaire | mitchnull: sure, if you send me info on how to do that |
| 21:59.32 | cladhaire | or do it for me :P |
| 21:59.43 | cladhaire | i'll accept a diff if its easy |
| 21:59.45 | cladhaire | which i suspect it is |
| 21:59.52 | mitchnull | should be |
| 22:00.18 | mitchnull | never done dynamic LDBs yet, but according to docs it should be easy |
| 22:00.54 | NeoTron | yeah not that hard |
| 22:01.33 | Arrowmaster | cladhaire: want a www.getdropbox.com invite? |
| 22:01.44 | cladhaire | wassat do? |
| 22:01.45 | mitchnull | (although Broker_Durability doesn't seem to update correctly, so obviously it can be done wrong :) |
| 22:01.57 | Arrowmaster | lets you share data between places |
| 22:02.22 | mitchnull | . o (gmail does that for me) |
| 22:03.00 | Industrial | ^ |
| 22:03.36 | doom0r | cladhaire: archive preference? |
| 22:03.51 | cladhaire | doom0r: archive? |
| 22:03.56 | doom0r | 7z rar zip |
| 22:03.57 | doom0r | etc |
| 22:04.17 | doom0r | instead of recompressing ss |
| 22:04.54 | doom0r | or you want it on a host? |
| 22:05.51 | VonhintenHOME` | omen's hide/show minimap icon is busted, fyi |
| 22:05.51 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 22:05.51 | Arrowmaster | theres just like 3 |
| 22:05.51 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 22:05.51 | cladhaire | doom0r: I'm confused what you mean.. |
| 22:05.52 | cladhaire | why are you zipping anything? |
| 22:05.52 | VonhintenHOME` | arrow, fair enough |
| 22:05.52 | cladhaire | or hosting? |
| 22:06.03 | NeoTron | so if I use LoadOnDemand to make an addon just load for a specific class... there's no way of making it load without having something like AddonLoader right? |
| 22:06.10 | NeoTron | so I need to basically ship it with AddonLoader |
| 22:06.11 | doom0r | was just gonna throw the ss in |
| 22:06.34 | NeoTron | or is there a toc thing you can use to make it load on demand if the load manager is present, and always load if it's not? |
| 22:06.42 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: just make the files check class at the start |
| 22:06.49 | cladhaire | doom0r: oh i shouldn't need any ss |
| 22:06.56 | Arrowmaster | NeoTron: LoadManager |
| 22:07.20 | weab | Gngsk: pong |
| 22:08.54 | NeoTron | so > LoadManager: AddonLoader < for example |
| 22:09.12 | NeoTron | I'll try it out tonight or so |
| 22:09.21 | VonhintenHOME` | There any way to get my cartographer 2 data in cartographer 3? |
| 22:09.43 | VonhintenHOME` | notes, etc, all missing |
| 22:09.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:09.53 | Xinhuan | VonhintenHOME`, do you need help with omen minimap buttons? :) |
| 22:10.22 | Arrowmaster | haha nice top 10s http://www.gamefaqs.com/ |
| 22:10.25 | *** join/#wowace Mytos (n=nate@c-76-99-111-229.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 22:10.29 | VonhintenHOME` | xinhuan, there's at least 2 different ones, and one can't be hidden :) |
| 22:10.38 | Xinhuan | they can all be hidden |
| 22:10.48 | Xinhuan | first tell me what you use? FuBar? |
| 22:10.51 | Xinhuan | Broker2FuBar? |
| 22:10.55 | VonhintenHOME` | I use Fubar yes |
| 22:11.11 | Mytos | dumb question, if i run from darkshire to booty bay as a ghost, will it let me res outside booty bay at the spirit |
| 22:11.19 | Antiarc | no |
| 22:11.24 | Antiarc | It'll pop you back to your original GY |
| 22:11.27 | Mytos | DAMN |
| 22:11.27 | Xinhuan | well first FuBar creates a plugin - which can be either attached to a bar, or to the minimap, so check fubar options |
| 22:11.28 | VonhintenHOME` | Mytos, not anymore, used to be able to |
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| 22:11.33 | NivFreak | so I assume 3.0.3 is tomorrow |
| 22:11.44 | Xinhuan | secondly, Broker2FuBar creates another one - so check your Broker2FuBar settings |
| 22:11.54 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't have Broker2FuBar |
| 22:12.01 | Xinhuan | Thirdly, omen has one built in, check /omen config |
| 22:12.04 | nevcairiel | you should dump FuBar support now that you have LibDBIcon |
| 22:12.04 | Xinhuan | the very first page |
| 22:12.26 | Xinhuan | there's another checkbox there |
| 22:12.29 | Mytos | because this is taking FOREVER |
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| 22:12.47 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i keep telling him that |
| 22:13.41 | Pneumatus | we should forget LDB was ever created and go back to fubar :> |
| 22:13.56 | VonhintenHOME` | ok Xin, I see |
| 22:14.13 | Xinhuan | in any case, in the next version, that extra minimap button wont' be created anymore if you have fubar ;p |
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| 22:15.42 | VonhintenHOME` | You're keeping xloot up to date too, aren't you? |
| 22:15.53 | Mytos | anyone got a lock or mage on azshara alliance wanna help me out? |
| 22:16.01 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: Mikk and Drizdt have been doing the fixes to keep it working, why? |
| 22:16.10 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster/nevcairiel, i got a response from xbeeps |
| 22:16.15 | Xinhuan | about WideQuestLog |
| 22:16.17 | ulic | nevcairiel: I'd suspect also, but I suppose they could do it next Tuesday, that's still before LK, and it shouldn't be that big of a patch |
| 22:16.28 | Xinhuan | "Guess I've wasted my time on this one! A little investigation and it turns out that DoubleWide (by Iriel) on wowinterface, is almost exactly the same as the WideQuestLog addon in the package you link, except that the latter is wrapped in some Ace2 stuff." |
| 22:16.37 | Xinhuan | "The reason i didn't find these at first, was that i called it QuestLogWide at first (and it was inspired by UberQuest), and google doesn't return anything what-so-ever on that name. It wasn't until i was done with it i renamed it to WideQuestLog without thinking much about it..." |
| 22:16.47 | VonhintenHOME` | oh, just wondering if anyone's ever had the problem where you click to open a chest or something, and the xloot window doesn't open up... yet /script LootSlot(1) actually works |
| 22:16.50 | Xinhuan | "Anyway, i find that DoubleWide does exactly what i need, does it the same way as i did here (by modifying the original Blizzard Quest Log), only better." |
| 22:17.01 | Xinhuan | "Only thing missing is quest levels, but I'll just add that to it, and perhaps push the lua-file on wowinterface for Iriel to include. If that doesn't work out well, i'll consider this project again, so for now you can just delete it!" |
| 22:17.16 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: Only on the first loot per reload/login? |
| 22:17.26 | VonhintenHOME` | no, it's random |
| 22:17.36 | Pneumatus | pastey more tbh :< |
| 22:17.45 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you know whats funny about that, i actually wrote a DoubleWide-mod myself on BC launch, but then like a week after i was done DoubleWide came out, and i never released it .. there are probably about 3 people that use mine now =P |
| 22:17.54 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 22:17.57 | VonhintenHOME` | happens to me a lot on the karazhan chest though, i've noticed |
| 22:18.11 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8631-Quelevel.html for questlevels in DoubleWide :) |
| 22:18.13 | Xuerian | VonhintenHOME`: No idea then, unfortunately. XLoot code itself is a kludge. Try turning off the "Hide loot window when autlooting" option |
| 22:18.15 | Xinhuan | you people should use my addon LargerMacroIconSelection |
| 22:18.18 | Xinhuan | @project LargerMacroIconSelection |
| 22:18.18 | Repo | Xinhuan: No project found that matches 'LargerMacroIconSelection' |
| 22:18.21 | Xinhuan | damn |
| 22:18.22 | Xuerian | fail |
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| 22:18.31 | nevcairiel | @project larger-macro-icon-selection |
| 22:18.31 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/projects/larger-macro-icon-selection/. LargerMacroIconSelection. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Updated: 20 days ago |
| 22:18.45 | Xinhuan | its pretty neat |
| 22:19.05 | Xinhuan | see screenshot hehe |
| 22:19.10 | Xuerian | tell you what would really help |
| 22:19.15 | Xuerian | A better macro icon selection window |
| 22:19.16 | EvilJohn | that's a great idea |
| 22:19.26 | Xuerian | Sorted and whatnot |
| 22:19.27 | Kuja^ | ~seen profalbert |
| 22:19.30 | purl | profalbert <n=profalbe@91-113-24-0.adsl.highway.telekom.at> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 3d 7h 51m 3s ago, saying: 'does Carrot on a stick also fail?'. |
| 22:19.36 | Xinhuan | its not sorted |
| 22:19.44 | Xinhuan | it just uses the same order, just a larger window |
| 22:20.04 | Xinhuan | sorting will require me to remap every icon's index to the original |
| 22:21.28 | VonhintenHOME` | I'd almost want it sorted by color (majority) |
| 22:21.57 | VonhintenHOME` | or class |
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| 22:23.06 | EthanCentaurai | Notepad++ doesn't want to open XML files anymore =/ |
| 22:24.57 | doom0r | o.O |
| 22:25.01 | VonhintenHOME` | did you add .xml to the disabled languages list? |
| 22:25.48 | EthanCentaurai | nope |
| 22:26.10 | EthanCentaurai | double-click -> C:\Documents doesn't exists, create? [Yes] [No] |
| 22:26.25 | nevcairiel | you seem to be lacking some " " love |
| 22:26.32 | Xinhuan | right click --> Open in Notepad++ ? |
| 22:26.42 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, something must have overwrote your .xml association in the registry |
| 22:26.44 | EthanCentaurai | same |
| 22:26.50 | Arrowmaster | IE probably |
| 22:28.07 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * v3.0.1-9-g2cc0892 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 22:28.08 | Repo | 2cc0892: Update TOC to Omen v3.0.2 |
| 22:28.08 | Repo | d6f8ca3: Change default pet color from white-washed green to violet. |
| 22:28.10 | Repo | f82c78c: Fix bugs with "Hide Omen on 0 bars" option not working properly. |
| 22:28.58 | Repo | 10xrs: 03Dridzt * r188 localizations (3 files in 1 directory): - Localization: "Unit is visble"->"Unit is visible" |
| 22:29.14 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1014 AckisRecipeList.lua: Ackis Recipe List: |
| 22:29.14 | Repo | - Add in Skillet API |
| 22:29.15 | Repo | - Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p) |
| 22:30.14 | EthanCentaurai | ~blame Fisker- |
| 22:30.15 | purl | ACTION blames Fisker- (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
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| 22:35.27 | azraelo | Does anyone know if there's a working version of Ackis Collectinator? |
| 22:37.05 | Jaxon | I don't know, let me check |
| 22:37.17 | Pneumatus | i think he's been fixing ARL first |
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| 22:37.30 | Jaxon | AckisWork: is there a working version of your Collectinator? I hear you might be fixing RecipeList first. |
| 22:37.33 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1015 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 8 lines) |
| 22:37.34 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
| 22:37.35 | Repo | - Local change: |
| 22:37.36 | Jaxon | azraelo: I'll get back to you when I find out. |
| 22:37.37 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 22:37.39 | Repo | L["ALT_CLICK"]= "Alt-Click to add/remove this recipe to your ignore list" |
| 22:37.43 | Repo | - Current code functionality to exclude a recipe will also remove it from the exclusion list... needs testing. |
| 22:37.53 | AckisWork | hi |
| 22:37.58 | AckisWork | I'm getting ARL fixed first |
| 22:38.16 | Pneumatus | well timed commit |
| 22:38.19 | Jaxon | azraelo: yes, it is as I've heard rumored, he seems to be getting RecipeList fixed first. Hope I was able to help you. |
| 22:38.25 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: I know eh? lol |
| 22:38.52 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:39.03 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 22:39.04 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 46 seconds ago. Tickets: 17/183 |
| 22:39.09 | AckisWork | 17 more tickets for me to fix |
| 22:39.15 | AckisWork | assuming no one else submits new ones |
| 22:39.17 | AckisWork | *grumbles* |
| 22:39.33 | sacarasc | AckisWork: you do good work, keep it up |
| 22:39.34 | doom0r | i guess i should *test* it ;x |
| 22:39.41 | Xinhuan | Ackis, please consider not using datamined data :) |
| 22:39.49 | sacarasc | (also, because that was too nice of me, you suck) |
| 22:39.53 | Xinhuan | and just do it manually! |
| 22:40.19 | Pneumatus | it will be fine once the dataminer works :> |
| 22:40.21 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: but I got most of the things fixed already and the last little bit should be fixed soon |
| 22:40.30 | Xinhuan | where's your inscription data from |
| 22:40.54 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: the moon |
| 22:41.22 | Pneumatus | i think the issue is more that its using wowdb rather than wowhead ;) |
| 22:41.30 | AckisWork | both have issues |
| 22:41.52 | AckisWork | but the wowhead data is more accurate... although I fixed the issue where the skill levels were all wrong |
| 22:42.00 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:42.00 | Repo | Utopia: Applied same fix for Blood Frenzy as with Savage Combat. Neither of them appear in combat log. |
| 22:43.27 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 22:43.27 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 5 minutes ago. Tickets: 16/183 |
| 22:43.33 | AckisWork | see I'm down to 16 already |
| 22:43.37 | Repo | 10do-iknow-you: 03Shotmonkey * r78 / (2 files in 1 directory): DoIKnowYou: |
| 22:43.38 | Repo | - Minor update to show view of all data when the data frame is shown, seems more logical. |
| 22:43.39 | Repo | - Changed colouring of data in the frame to colour by total (shared) rep, instead of just personal rep. |
| 22:44.19 | Xinhuan | you know, that short name for that project just looks whacked |
| 22:44.23 | Xinhuan | "do-iknow-you" |
| 22:44.38 | Pneumatus | camelcasetastic |
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| 22:45.48 | Zhinjio | ok, question. for a "topscore" type addon. How would you want it to behave when you get a new rank of a spell? |
| 22:45.54 | Zhinjio | and (obviously) start doing more dmg with it |
| 22:46.01 | Pneumatus | just overwrite, personally |
| 22:46.03 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: replace the previous records? |
| 22:46.15 | elite3vil | ^ |
| 22:46.21 | Pneumatus | i wouldnt want each rank stored separately, if thats the question |
| 22:46.23 | Zhinjio | if I'm tracking average hits, would you want that aggregate data reset back to 0? |
| 22:46.33 | Zhinjio | Pneumatus: agreed. |
| 22:46.35 | Pneumatus | yeh, reset and start again on the new rank |
| 22:46.43 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith * r8 LibShieldLeft.lua: - fixed some bugs |
| 22:46.44 | Hirsute | Aye, just overwrite. |
| 22:46.51 | Pneumatus | although, i use DrDamage to tell me average |
| 22:47.07 | NeoTron | how's this for an idea for a rune cooldown - customize the bars to use timers for whatever rune(s) you decide |
| 22:47.09 | Pneumatus | which just works on mathfu rather than reality |
| 22:47.12 | Hirsute | With the elimination of any benefit to downranking, I don't see any reason to care about earlier ranks. |
| 22:47.19 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 22:47.20 | NeoTron | so I have 4 bars: B F U and FU |
| 22:47.22 | Hjalte | Didn't fishing once give a different sound when the bobber caught something? I remember it being more distinct. |
| 22:47.38 | Pneumatus | fishing pools now make their own noise |
| 22:47.42 | NeoTron | maybe a BFU too. Customizable whether to include death runes in each bar |
| 22:47.45 | Pneumatus | different to the bobber one |
| 22:47.57 | Hirsute | Hjalte: You might have had an addon that replaced it, but I've never heard any sound other than the default one. *shrug* |
| 22:48.08 | Hirsute | *other than the one I hear now. |
| 22:48.09 | Zhinjio | some addons also make it louder. |
| 22:48.21 | Zhinjio | fishing buddy, fisherman's friend |
| 22:48.24 | Zhinjio | et al |
| 22:48.32 | Hjalte | Zhinjio: Yeah, I just got Fisherman's friend, which makes it louder. |
| 22:48.45 | Mikk | wonders what he was gonna poke NeoTron about ... |
| 22:48.47 | Pneumatus | i dont think that makes it especially louder, it just turns off other sounds |
| 22:49.07 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1016 ARLFrame.lua: Ackis Recipe List: |
| 22:49.07 | Repo | - Add the recipe link to the tooltip in addition to the acquire information. |
| 22:49.08 | Repo | - Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p) |
| 22:49.35 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 22:49.35 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 11 minutes ago. Tickets: 15/183 |
| 22:49.41 | AckisWork | 15 tickets damn I'm good? |
| 22:49.42 | AckisWork | :P |
| 22:50.06 | elite3vil | Just because you weren't in the channel I said it in. |
| 22:50.07 | elite3vil | [17:47] <elite3vil> just for the JC recipes (Damn you Ackis.. even though you're not in the channel) |
| 22:50.38 | AckisWork | what about the JC recipes? |
| 22:50.40 | NeoTron | Mikk: good question |
| 22:50.46 | elite3vil | I'm thinking about switching from Aldor to Scryer. |
| 22:51.14 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 22:51.15 | AckisWork | lol |
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| 22:52.13 | Mikk | NeoTron: do you have a list of your projects somewhere? i saw nothing on wowace =/ |
| 22:52.33 | Pneumatus | @user Ackis |
| 22:52.38 | Pneumatus | shame |
| 22:53.08 | AckisWork | ? |
| 22:53.27 | Xinhuan | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/profiles/Ackis/ |
| 22:53.28 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 22:53.32 | Pneumatus | wish there was a username lookup profile thing command |
| 22:53.33 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r26 engine.lua: |
| 22:53.33 | Repo | Utopia: Correct spell ID for Deep Wounds for Blood Frenzy detection. |
| 22:53.44 | Pneumatus | Mikk asked for NeoTron:P |
| 22:53.47 | AckisWork | I'm so confused... I'm innocent |
| 22:54.00 | Fisker- | Ackis |
| 22:54.03 | Fisker- | you should die |
| 22:54.10 | NeoTron | http://www.wowace.com/projects/?search=dhedbor |
| 22:54.22 | AckisWork | why Fisker- ? |
| 22:54.42 | elite3vil | lol. Probably for similar reasons to me. |
| 22:55.07 | elite3vil | I did BWL last weekend for the Broodlord head, so I can get the stupid ****ing cooking recipe out of the list. |
| 22:55.14 | NeoTron | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/dhedbor/ too I guess :P |
| 22:55.38 | Mikk | NeoTron: Aha! Now I know what it was I wanted from you |
| 22:55.41 | Fisker- | because i love you AckisWork |
| 22:55.45 | Mikk | I want a oneliner description for ButtonBin |
| 22:55.46 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:56.00 | linear` | do the assert and error functions output to the errorframe |
| 22:56.01 | elite3vil | Mikk: Bin for buttons. Duh. |
| 22:56.01 | Antiarc | Like FuBar except not |
| 22:57.29 | NeoTron | Mikk: what's in the toc... but that really isn't necessarily correct anymore |
| 22:57.44 | NeoTron | how do you describe fubar in one line? |
| 22:58.04 | Arrowmaster | lol my cell phone just rang and then instantly died from shitty battery |
| 22:58.12 | Groktar | :( |
| 22:58.20 | Zhinjio | 'An LDB Display Addon that allows you to group LDB datasources into groups(bins) as well as configure those bins." |
| 22:58.29 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 22:58.34 | Groktar | gives Arrowmaster a new iphone, instantly branding him a homosexual |
| 22:58.47 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: sounds about right |
| 22:58.57 | NeoTron | given ppl know what LDB is :P |
| 22:59.03 | Groktar | doesn't |
| 22:59.15 | Zhinjio | on all my LDB addons, I put a standard "footer" linking pages and such |
| 22:59.19 | Zhinjio | since most dont' yet |
| 22:59.20 | Pneumatus | 'Like Titan Panel, only different' |
| 22:59.30 | Mikk | It's for http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14903 |
| 22:59.31 | NeoTron | Mikk: if I might ask, for what purpose? |
| 22:59.37 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1017 / (3 files in 2 directories): Ackis Recipe List: |
| 22:59.37 | Repo | - Create a manual addition file for those special cases that I need to do manually |
| 22:59.38 | Repo | - Add enchanting manual stuff |
| 22:59.38 | Zhinjio | @project Broker_TradeCooldowns |
| 22:59.40 | Repo | - Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p) |
| 22:59.40 | NeoTron | like you read my mind |
| 22:59.42 | Repo | Zhinjio: No project found that matches 'Broker_TradeCooldowns' |
| 22:59.44 | Mikk | Right now I have "ButtonBin - puts many LDB plugins inside a box.. or bar.. or some shape!" |
| 22:59.52 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 22:59.55 | Mikk | Except I guess it can be more than one |
| 23:00.24 | Mikk | "ButtonBin - puts many LDB plugins inside a box.. or bar.. or several!" |
| 23:00.31 | NeoTron | lol |
| 23:01.14 | Mikk | Groktar: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14903 <- read that, it will Change Your Life |
| 23:02.02 | NeoTron | "Organizes LDB plugins in one or more bins (or bars)" perhaps |
| 23:02.43 | AckisWork | @project data-tools |
| 23:02.43 | Repo | AckisWork: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/data-tools/. DataTools. Game: WoW. Leader: kagaro. Author: Ackis. Updated: 3 days ago |
| 23:03.02 | Zhinjio | @project broker-tradecooldowns |
| 23:03.03 | Repo | Zhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-tradecooldowns/. Broker_TradeCooldowns. Game: WoW. Leader: Zhinjio. Updated: 4 days ago |
| 23:03.05 | Zhinjio | there we go |
| 23:03.18 | Mikk | NeoTron: That's what you and I want to read. Joe User wants dumbspeak :P |
| 23:03.37 | Mikk | has gotten very good at Joe User in his decade+ dealing with them |
| 23:03.51 | Hirsute | Anyone have any good recommendations for a CECB/Natur replacement? I'm really missing that addon. |
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| 23:04.22 | Torhal | Mikk: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9353-Wraith.html and http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10484-cargoShipDisplay.html |
| 23:04.30 | doom0r | A place to put plugins. |
| 23:04.54 | Pneumatus | Mikk, for the average user that loves FuBar, why would they want to change to a 'proper' ldb display though? |
| 23:05.42 | Sonomus | Ehm, what's the best way to include externals to LibDataBroker-1.1 using .pkgmeta? Can't seem to find the path... seems silly uploading it again |
| 23:06.02 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 23:06.03 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: mainly because things are moving away from FuBar (or new stuff not being developed with it) |
| 23:06.05 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 5 minutes ago. Tickets: 12/183 |
| 23:06.05 | Mikk | Pneumatus: They still need to know what LDB is... which is why I listed Broker2Fubar |
| 23:06.08 | NeoTron | I guess |
| 23:06.11 | AckisWork | 12 tickets w00t :P |
| 23:06.16 | Pneumatus | the fact that its maintained on git makes it a pain in the ass for developers using SVN also |
| 23:06.24 | NeoTron | and B2FB might do the trick |
| 23:06.42 | Mikk | That's assuming you need magically updating externals all the time |
| 23:06.43 | Torhal | LDB was kinda meant to be embedded. It's tiny. |
| 23:06.44 | Mikk | You don't |
| 23:07.02 | Torhal | And by "kinda" I really mean "was definitely" |
| 23:07.25 | Sonomus | hehe, k =) thx |
| 23:07.49 | ckknight | hey all, new poll: http://www.curseforge.com/polls/favorite-future/ |
| 23:07.59 | Torhal | Differences in revision systems shouldn't disallow you from downloading it. |
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| 23:11.07 | Arrowmaster | just use git://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1.git in the .pkgmeta |
| 23:11.16 | Zhinjio | drools. Mmmm... Syndicate. |
| 23:11.22 | Arrowmaster | how hard is it for people to figure that out? |
| 23:11.23 | Zhinjio | I still have that game installed. |
| 23:11.44 | ckknight | hey, who wants to help test the new wowace codebase? |
| 23:11.52 | ckknight | it should function (mostly) the same as it did before |
| 23:11.53 | Fisker- | ckknight what about a future that doesn't involve the world being fubar? |
| 23:11.54 | Torhal | ckknight: Eh? |
| 23:12.14 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: its a fact the future is going to be fubar |
| 23:12.29 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: The present is pretty fubar. |
| 23:12.38 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 23:12.53 | Xinhuan | what new wowace codebase? |
| 23:13.03 | *** join/#wowace [1]RaydenUni (n=RaydenUn@cl1-45.it.rit.edu) |
| 23:13.24 | ckknight | no more django |
| 23:13.33 | Repo | 10repairbroker: 03sonomus * r2 / (15 files in 6 directories): Sonomus: Initial commit. |
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| 23:13.33 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
| 23:13.37 | Xinhuan | so to a user there's no difference? |
| 23:14.14 | Arrowmaster | not sucking sounds like a difference |
| 23:14.17 | [1]RaydenUni | hello |
| 23:14.19 | Torhal | Agreed. |
| 23:14.54 | ckknight | well, there's a few more admin things |
| 23:14.56 | ckknight | such as banning people |
| 23:15.25 | Xinhuan | did you fix a deleted project's still being accessible yet ckknight? |
| 23:15.46 | Xinhuan | for example http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13614/files/ is accessible to everyone |
| 23:15.50 | ckknight | no |
| 23:15.52 | Xinhuan | although the main page is not |
| 23:16.11 | Arrowmaster | replace project-13614 with capping |
| 23:16.46 | NivFreak | is capping still b0rked? |
| 23:16.56 | Xinhuan | you can get the latest version on wowinterface NivFreak |
| 23:16.58 | Repo | 10repairbroker: 03sonomus * r3 libs/ (3 files in 3 directories): Sonomus: Deleted libs from the wrong folder. |
| 23:17.04 | Xinhuan | author moved his project there |
| 23:17.13 | Xinhuan | because uh, i think he doesn't like curse |
| 23:17.16 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: boy I wish I wasn't forced into an updater that won't talk to other sites! :) |
| 23:17.18 | Xinhuan | to syndicate |
| 23:18.24 | Stanzilla | ckknight: giev links |
| 23:19.41 | Mikk | Question though... what does banning people actually do? |
| 23:19.51 | Mikk | I mean... can't they just create another user and WHAM full access again? |
| 23:20.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 23:20.46 | Funkeh` | is terminator ep7 streaming now? |
| 23:21.03 | Fisker- | your mother? |
| 23:22.11 | Torhal | Funkeh`: Latest I have is ep6 |
| 23:22.19 | Funkeh` | Yes |
| 23:22.23 | Funkeh` | but ep7 is today |
| 23:22.36 | Torhal | Though, I don't stream it: I download the 720p torrent |
| 23:23.13 | Funkeh` | When I say stream, I mean is it on TV you damn americans |
| 23:23.22 | Fisker- | i downloda the over nine thousandp torrent ;_; |
| 23:23.35 | Fisker- | Probably in a matter of hours Funkeh` |
| 23:23.57 | Torhal | Funkeh`, in about 2 hours it'll be on TV (EST) |
| 23:24.03 | Funkeh` | Just wondering if my bed will call me before this torrent is released |
| 23:24.08 | Repo | 10do-iknow-you: 03Shotmonkey 043.0.2-stable v1.01 * r79 : Tagging repo as 3.0.2-stable v1.01. |
| 23:24.09 | Funkeh` | I see |
| 23:24.15 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 23:24.21 | Fisker- | stuff like that isn't released for another 4-6 hours |
| 23:24.24 | Fisker- | depending on lazyness |
| 23:24.25 | Torhal | Funkeh`, you're not using RSS downloader? |
| 23:24.38 | Torhal | Yah, the 720p version I sometimes don't get until the next day |
| 23:24.43 | Torhal | 1.09GB per episode |
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| 23:25.27 | Funkeh` | meh, I usually just grab the 300X that EZTV outs up |
| 23:25.31 | *** part/#wowace Rayden (n=RaydenUn@cl1-45.it.rit.edu) |
| 23:25.36 | Funkeh` | never really fiddled with rss |
| 23:25.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1018 / (5 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 23:25.46 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
| 23:25.47 | Repo | - Add old version of Elementium to manual list (Ticket 162) |
| 23:25.49 | Repo | - Add Mycah's Botanical Bag (50194) (Ticket 130) |
| 23:25.53 | Repo | - Add Haughty Modiste to the dataminer (will manually get their info for future use) |
| 23:25.57 | Torhal | Funkeh`, get uTorrent and setup RSS feeds. Automates episode downloading |
| 23:26.00 | Mikk | Funkeh`: http://www.tvrss.net/ |
| 23:26.02 | Fisker- | Yeah i never saw the great advantage in 720p |
| 23:26.04 | Torhal | mikAye |
| 23:26.31 | Mikk | The problem with rssing off random feeds is you get duplicates wahoo and old repacks and shit you dont want |
| 23:26.33 | Torhal | Fisker-, if you watch HDTV then watch 720p, you'll see the level of clarity |
| 23:26.34 | Mikk | tvrss filters it nicely |
| 23:26.52 | Torhal | Mikk, Aye: I use tvrss as well |
| 23:27.04 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 23:27.04 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 48 seconds ago. Tickets: 7/183 |
| 23:27.07 | AckisWork | 7 |
| 23:27.13 | Fisker- | i only got a 22" inch PC monitor |
| 23:27.17 | Mikk | Now if I could find a sane rss torrent thingy for *nix |
| 23:27.21 | Fisker- | So the quality is good enough for me |
| 23:27.25 | Mikk | So I could actually turn my windows box off =( |
| 23:27.41 | ulic | Funkeh`: I think it airs on the east coast in about 30 minutes. |
| 23:27.43 | Torhal | Fisker-, same here, but there is a huge difference. Now I see artifacts with the HDTV downlaods |
| 23:27.51 | Torhal | Before it looked fine |
| 23:27.52 | Torhal | Heh |
| 23:28.27 | Mikk | Bah, I just ignore my light near-sightedness and merrily watch on my projector |
| 23:28.32 | Mikk | It smooths out any artifacts =) |
| 23:28.50 | NivFreak | haha, that thunderstorm @ thunderbluff video clip is hilarious |
| 23:29.41 | Mikk | Oh yay tvrss sits on cogent's network |
| 23:29.45 | Mikk | Have fun all sprint users! |
| 23:30.09 | Fisker- | netdrama? |
| 23:30.27 | Mikk | Yeah, cogent doesnt want to pay sprint for peering |
| 23:30.38 | Mikk | And they lie through their teeth |
| 23:30.40 | Mikk | Again |
| 23:30.47 | Mikk | Like they did with aol, level3, teliasonera ... |
| 23:31.17 | Fisker- | gah |
| 23:31.24 | Fisker- | Stuff like that should almost be government funded |
| 23:31.38 | Fisker- | So jackasses can't remove stuff from the internet |
| 23:31.39 | Arrowmaster | no it shouldnt |
| 23:31.46 | Mikk | No, cogent needs to stop pricing their services so ridiculously cheap that they can actually afford to pay for peering |
| 23:32.16 | weab | ah yeah. government funding, always the answer. |
| 23:32.18 | Arrowmaster | luckly sprint was very open on exactly what happened, and put all the blame on cogent for not doing anything when they had ample notice |
| 23:33.11 | Fisker- | well weab would be great given the government didn't fail |
| 23:33.13 | Fisker- | i.e. china etc. |
| 23:33.23 | Mikk | Short story: Sprint and Cogent entered a free peering trial. It ended in late 2007. According to the terms agreed upon by BOTH companies, the traffic did not match a fair usage pattern |
| 23:33.38 | Mikk | Sprint has since then tried to get cogent to pay for the continued service |
| 23:33.44 | Mikk | Cogent has gone "Lol?" |
| 23:34.00 | Mikk | And kept cheesing off the peerings |
| 23:34.48 | Arrowmaster | sprint said again, 30 days and we cut the lines, cogent did nothing |
| 23:34.49 | Mikk | And dumping their prices even further |
| 23:35.07 | Mikk | And, lo and behold, sprint did cut the lines after 30 days |
| 23:35.12 | Arrowmaster | sprint starts cutting lines slowly one by one to allow cogent to change their routing info |
| 23:35.17 | Arrowmaster | cogent did nothing |
| 23:35.31 | Mikk | At which point cogent put out a press release "ZOMG SPRINT FRAGEMENTS TEH INTARWEB! THEY ARE TEH BAD GUYZ!" |
| 23:35.39 | Xinhuan | wasn't this over a year ago |
| 23:35.43 | Arrowmaster | sprint cuts final line and all traffic between cogent and sprint stops, cogent screams 'SPRINT CUT US OFF!' |
| 23:35.59 | Mikk | Xinhuan: The peering trial ended a year ago yeah. Sprint has been keeping the ports open. |
| 23:36.59 | Mikk | Apparently they have re-opened the ports now for a while. |
| 23:37.05 | Mikk | Not that I think cogent will start paying |
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| 23:40.32 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1019 ARLFrame.lua: Ackis Recipe List: |
| 23:40.33 | Repo | - Make zhTW and zhCN use that 2002 font as well, see if that fixes the issues |
| 23:40.34 | Repo | - Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p) |
| 23:41.34 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1020 AckisRecipeList.toc: |
| 23:41.35 | Repo | Flag as Beta 8 in ToC, if testing works out tonight will tag |
| 23:42.10 | ulic | wonders if Ackis has 'Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p)' in his svn templates :) |
| 23:42.18 | Mikk | grins |
| 23:43.42 | AckisWork | no have it in my text file template ;) |
| 23:51.12 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r61 / (4 files in 2 directories): now using LibStub |
| 23:51.13 | Repo | moved the lib into an subfolder |
| 23:51.13 | Repo | serveral small fixes |
| 23:51.50 | Arrowmaster | boo wheres akazik and who is he |
| 23:51.59 | Arrowmaster | subfolders evil |
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| 23:52.37 | NeoTron | why? |
| 23:53.03 | NeoTron | I think subfolders are evil, file names should be limited to 8.3 and A-Z |
| 23:53.12 | Repo | 10ouf_smurf: 03sonomus * r13 smurf.lua: Fix: Right clicking raid members. |
| 23:53.15 | NeoTron | that would teach people not to use too many files for their project! |
| 23:53.55 | NivFreak | 8.3 is evil |
| 23:53.57 | NivFreak | freaking dos user |
| 23:53.59 | Torhal | AAAAAAAA.lua AAAAAAA.lua AAAAAA.lua AAAAA.lua AAAA.lua BBBBBBBB.lua |
| 23:54.05 | Torhal | :D |
| 23:54.09 | durcyn | Ackis: AckisRecipeList.lua:1715: attempt to index upvalue playerData (nil etc etc etc etc) |
| 23:54.18 | durcyn | Ackis: there are also a metrick fuckton of leaked globals in ARLFrame |
| 23:54.35 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I came from ZX Spectrum, then Amiga |
| 23:54.36 | Antiarc | Ackis: luac -p -l yourfile.lua | grep GETGLOBAL |
| 23:54.38 | Antiarc | It works wonders |
| 23:54.39 | NeoTron | so no, not reall |
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| 23:54.40 | Repo | 10ouf_holysmurf: 03sonomus * r21 unitconfig.lua: |
| 23:54.41 | Repo | More expensive range check for MainTanks for added accuracy. |
| 23:54.47 | Torhal | durcyn, nice. People at work look at me odd when I say "metric fuckton" |
| 23:55.08 | NeoTron | ZX Spectrum => Amiga => SunOS/Other Unix => Solaris/Linux... |
| 23:56.06 | Torhal | NeoTron, Atari ST |
| 23:56.14 | Arrowmaster | i learned on an ibm and not one of those cheap systems |
| 23:56.21 | durcyn | Ackis: i'd start with an 's/^function/local function/g' personally |
| 23:56.28 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, care to do it on omen? ;p |
| 23:56.36 | Antiarc | Sure |
| 23:56.37 | Xinhuan | i don't actually have a lua compiler |
| 23:56.55 | Xinhuan | i'll be interested in how many globals there are heh |
| 23:56.58 | Antiarc | http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-wow |
| 23:57.08 | Antiarc | That's a WoW-compatible Lua binary by Cogwheel |
| 23:57.12 | NivFreak | NeoTron: 8.3 is still retarded, regarless :) |
| 23:57.39 | Xinhuan | well just do it anyway ;p |
| 23:57.53 | NeoTron | NivFreak: oh I agree, fully |
| 23:58.20 | Antiarc | You did mostly good |
| 23:58.25 | NeoTron | Torhal: evil being! (I remember the Atari ST <-> Amiga wars I had with my friends) |
| 23:58.28 | Antiarc | But there are a few places you missed |
| 23:58.32 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 23:58.36 | Xinhuan | do tell ;p |
| 23:58.41 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/globals.txt |
| 23:58.59 | Antiarc | Line number's in brackets |
| 23:59.00 | Torhal | I started on a ColecoVision ADAM, then went to an Atari 800XL |
| 23:59.18 | durcyn | Antiarc: er, those are all gets |
| 23:59.36 | Antiarc | I generally grep for getglobal >_> |
| 23:59.53 | Arrowmaster | grep for all globals |
| 23:59.59 | Antiarc | setglobal you have BINDING_HEADER_OMEN, BINDING_NAME_OMENTOGGLE, BINDING_NAME_OMENTOGGLEFOCUS, OmenLauncher |
