| 00:00.10 | NeoTron | I've found bugs where I used the wrong parameter name and thus did a SETGLOBAL |
| 00:00.10 | Antiarc | Which all look fine |
| 00:00.15 | Repo | 10fubar_wholibfu: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r31 / (3 files in 2 directories): WhoLib-2.0 as external |
| 00:00.16 | Repo | small fixes |
| 00:00.28 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:00.36 | Xinhuan | can u grep for SETGLOBAL too? |
| 00:00.42 | Antiarc | That's what I just did |
| 00:00.43 | Xinhuan | oh there u did |
| 00:00.49 | Antiarc | There would be gains to be had by upvaluing the stuff that's used often |
| 00:00.52 | Antiarc | Like in loops or onupdate |
| 00:01.03 | Xinhuan | so just those 3 bindings and the LDB launcher (which i left it on purpose in global) |
| 00:01.15 | Antiarc | Yup |
| 00:01.19 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r62 WhoLib-2.0/WhoLib-2.0.lua: formatted some debug/error messages |
| 00:01.40 | Antiarc | What's "wipe"? |
| 00:01.41 | Xinhuan | there's a couple more actually, some of the CreateFrames() sets globals as wells |
| 00:01.44 | Antiarc | I've never seen that function before |
| 00:01.48 | Xinhuan | wipe() is a new 3.0 function |
| 00:01.52 | Xinhuan | it.. well, wipes a table |
| 00:01.59 | Antiarc | Recursive, or shallow? |
| 00:02.03 | Antiarc | Also, that's very cool |
| 00:02.03 | Xinhuan | essentially, t = {} but reuses it |
| 00:02.06 | Xinhuan | shallow |
| 00:02.13 | Antiarc | Any way to make it recurse? |
| 00:02.18 | Xinhuan | don't think so |
| 00:02.23 | Xinhuan | table.wipe == wipe |
| 00:02.23 | Antiarc | And does it do both lists and hashes? |
| 00:02.25 | Xinhuan | for wow that is |
| 00:02.29 | Xinhuan | yeah, its a full wipe |
| 00:02.40 | Xinhuan | the resulting table is {} |
| 00:02.43 | Antiarc | That's rather useful |
| 00:02.44 | Fisker- | Additional items in the currency frame |
| 00:02.44 | Fisker- | We wanted to evaluate the new feature before we converted everything over. Consider, for example, that there is no way to ever delete currency. Once those items go in, they are going to be there forever, even if you consider them irrelevant junk. Now we could choose to add a means to delete currency -- that's what I mean by evaluating the feature. |
| 00:02.45 | Fisker- | fail |
| 00:02.46 | Xinhuan | metatables is not affected |
| 00:02.49 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: good to know |
| 00:02.55 | Antiarc | Implemented in C I'm sure |
| 00:02.57 | Fisker- | currencies are just consider bagitems as well |
| 00:03.04 | Fisker- | and can be deleted by some tinkering |
| 00:03.23 | Xinhuan | whats the first column Antiarc |
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| 00:03.49 | Antiarc | Uhh, I forget |
| 00:03.55 | Antiarc | Oh |
| 00:03.58 | Antiarc | Instruction number |
| 00:04.14 | Funkeh` | Don't think it's done in C |
| 00:04.20 | Antiarc | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/out.txt |
| 00:04.23 | Antiarc | That's the full dump |
| 00:04.46 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: how much better is wipe() over the old for k in pairs(t) do t[k] = nil end loop? |
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| 00:05.00 | Xinhuan | do you think any of those Getglobals should be localed? |
| 00:05.10 | Xinhuan | Yssaril: untested by anyone |
| 00:05.15 | Xinhuan | we just assume its better |
| 00:05.21 | Antiarc | Anything that's used more than once, I generally tend to upvalue |
| 00:05.25 | Cryect | hmmm they giving us new commands in a new patch? |
| 00:05.25 | Antiarc | Stuff like pairs and ipairs should be |
| 00:05.26 | durcyn | Xinhuan: you could upvalue the ones that are called often if you're anal retentive |
| 00:05.57 | Xinhuan | there's only 1 OnUpdate in the whole omen |
| 00:06.04 | Xinhuan | and it has no getglobals in it |
| 00:06.21 | Antiarc | well, stuff that happens on frequent events counts too |
| 00:06.42 | Xinhuan | all the stuff in lines 1352-1489 |
| 00:06.49 | Xinhuan | are in "Updatebars()" |
| 00:06.57 | Xinhuan | which gets called frequently |
| 00:07.21 | Xinhuan | 1486-1489 are only called when you pass the threat threshold |
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| 00:08.46 | Xinhuan | i'll upvalue a few of them i guess |
| 00:09.25 | NivFreak | I love it, one of the guilds on our server |
| 00:09.29 | NivFreak | still can't kill vashj |
| 00:09.33 | NivFreak | still can't kill kaelthas |
| 00:09.37 | NivFreak | but just downed brutalus |
| 00:10.09 | Cryect | well thats not really saying much else than they have no coordination |
| 00:10.24 | NivFreak | lol |
| 00:10.26 | NivFreak | 50 wipes on azgalor |
| 00:10.27 | NivFreak | to down him |
| 00:10.28 | NivFreak | wtf |
| 00:10.32 | Cryect | haha |
| 00:11.07 | Xinhuan | o_o |
| 00:11.11 | Xinhuan | most guilds take 2 at most |
| 00:11.38 | Jaxon | I don't remember the names of Hyjal bosses because they all died our first night in there. |
| 00:11.43 | Jaxon | Except for Archimonde |
| 00:11.46 | NivFreak | I thinked wiped on him once, because of the silence |
| 00:11.56 | Jaxon | Azgalor, the doomguard guy? |
| 00:11.59 | Jaxon | Aha. |
| 00:12.04 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:12.52 | NivFreak | they conviently leave all dates off thier sunwell kills, I assume they hope that people won't notice they were post nerf |
| 00:13.17 | Cryect | does anyone really care at this point? |
| 00:13.28 | Jaxon | I DO, I MUST CARE. |
| 00:13.33 | NivFreak | I just find it amusing |
| 00:13.45 | NivFreak | can't kill vashj or kaelthas, but are killing sunwell bosses |
| 00:13.56 | NivFreak | I mean shit man, vashj and kaelthas are so freaking nerfed |
| 00:14.03 | NivFreak | you can screw up constantly and down them |
| 00:14.09 | NivFreak | we one shotted them in a pug the other night |
| 00:14.52 | Jaxon | I bet if you put that avoidance penalty back in Sunwell there'd be lots of problems again. |
| 00:15.04 | Jaxon | As opposed to putting back 30% of the health and such. |
| 00:15.13 | NivFreak | I suspect both would cause issues |
| 00:15.22 | NivFreak | but the 30% health is what is letting people mow brutalus over |
| 00:18.47 | NivFreak | Antiarc: so does sexymap have any cool features, or just a pretty skin? :P |
| 00:18.58 | Antiarc | Button hovering is a common favorite |
| 00:19.07 | Antiarc | It eats the buttons on your minimap and shows them on hover |
| 00:19.07 | Jaxon | And the standard scale/move stuff. |
| 00:19.23 | Antiarc | Has ping naming, etfc |
| 00:19.35 | Torhal | Does it wash the dishes? |
| 00:19.39 | NivFreak | Antiarc: do things like mail icons pop without hovering? |
| 00:19.43 | Jaxon | Actually, having an overlay on my square minimap lets me see some of the texture details a lot better (red-green colorblind). |
| 00:19.45 | Antiarc | You can set them to |
| 00:19.53 | Jaxon | NivFreak: based on a per-icon basis. |
| 00:19.56 | NivFreak | ah, k |
| 00:19.57 | Antiarc | If you have it set to "always visible" it'll show whenever you have mail |
| 00:20.04 | Xinhuan | Antiarc, i've had someone say they think SexyMap is eating omen's minimap button |
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| 00:20.09 | NivFreak | how does it interact with MBB? :) |
| 00:20.10 | Antiarc | It probably is |
| 00:20.13 | Antiarc | It's very aggressive |
| 00:20.16 | Xinhuan | as in, the show/hide is overridden by sexymap |
| 00:20.18 | Antiarc | It plays decently with MBB |
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| 00:22.50 | NeoTron | NivFreak: don't forget the physical damage nerf - MT's dying (in addition to being able to perhaps only bring 7 healers) was a major issue on Brutallus |
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| 00:23.01 | NivFreak | NeoTron: that's what he said |
| 00:23.09 | NivFreak | but still, you can bring more healers now |
| 00:23.12 | NivFreak | since the DPS req is lower |
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| 00:23.22 | Xinhuan | except you can do it with 5 healers now |
| 00:23.33 | NivFreak | this discussion seems to go in circles |
| 00:23.34 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:23.37 | Xinhuan | and they won't even oom cos brut dies so fast |
| 00:23.49 | NivFreak | yea |
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| 00:26.01 | Arrowmaster | people can go oom now? |
| 00:26.11 | Arrowmaster | hell i cant even go oom as a warlock now! |
| 00:26.17 | Arrowmaster | replenishment fucking rocks! |
| 00:26.40 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * v3.0.1-11-g5f28000 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 00:26.41 | Repo | 5f28000: Update deDE localization from Stanzilla. |
| 00:26.41 | Repo | 3310c42: Localize a few more globals after looking a GETGLOBAL grep pass. |
| 00:26.43 | Pneumatus | i go oom on twins if i spam CoH like a nutcase |
| 00:26.44 | NivFreak | I can oom my priest spamming CoH |
| 00:26.45 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:26.49 | NivFreak | of course I'm 5/56/0 atm |
| 00:26.57 | Ackis | has sec with the channel |
| 00:26.58 | NivFreak | no meditation ftl |
| 00:27.01 | Ackis | s/sec/sex/ |
| 00:27.14 | Arrowmaster | how long did it take you to go oom in 2.4? |
| 00:27.24 | Ackis | I never went oom in 2.4 arrowmaster |
| 00:27.27 | Torhal | Ackis: Even with the cheese grater? |
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| 00:27.38 | Ackis | Torhal: especially the cheese grater |
| 00:27.42 | Torhal | Dayum. |
| 00:28.11 | Xinhuan | i do 17 min baron runs |
| 00:28.14 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I never really went oom in 2.4 |
| 00:28.18 | Xinhuan | i can't quite reduce it to 14 min yet |
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| 00:29.04 | Arrowmaster | i would go oom in about 45 seconds in 2.4 |
| 00:29.06 | Xinhuan | @project omen-threat-meter |
| 00:29.06 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/omen-threat-meter/. Omen Threat Meter. Game: WoW. Leader: Xinhuan. Authors: Nevcairiel, Antiarc, anmoch. Updated: 111 seconds ago. Tickets: 2/14 |
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| 00:31.20 | Stanzilla | woah |
| 00:31.34 | Stanzilla | those "changes from ..." have a huge font size |
| 00:31.35 | Repo | 10mountiful: 03Jomar * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): Mountiful: |
| 00:31.36 | Repo | - added some commenting |
| 00:31.37 | Repo | - show revision/version on options menu |
| 00:34.03 | kagaro | @project data-tools |
| 00:34.03 | Repo | kagaro: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/data-tools/. DataTools. Game: WoW. Leader: kagaro. Author: Ackis. Updated: 3 days ago |
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| 00:37.50 | syeren | Zeksie: Poke |
| 00:37.59 | Zeksie | ? |
| 00:38.25 | syeren | My friend updated his Xperl today, and seems as I refuse to use the addon... |
| 00:38.26 | syeren | *~\'|'/~*-<dennis>-*~\'|'/~* says (00:05): |
| 00:38.26 | syeren | how do i get my debuff to show a timer with xperl |
| 00:38.26 | syeren | had that earlier |
| 00:38.26 | syeren | but cant find it now |
| 00:38.29 | syeren | Any ideas? |
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| 00:38.58 | Zeksie | sec fighting |
| 00:39.18 | syeren | I don't really have much patience with going through everything with him when I have very little experience using the addon, and you obviously know everything about it. |
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| 00:39.34 | syeren | So I imagine he's talking about Debuff Timers provided by X-Perl or OmniCC. |
| 00:41.03 | syeren | Sigh, fucking hate people. |
| 00:41.12 | Zeksie | global options, buff cooldowns/countdowns are the options |
| 00:41.13 | syeren | "Have you looked through the options?" "y" |
| 00:41.19 | Zeksie | heh |
| 00:41.31 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1021 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix a few typos/etc, not to bad for mr dry-coder |
| 00:41.32 | syeren | And now he tells me he has it working because he looked through the options. |
| 00:41.33 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 04v3.0.2 * 8c5240b /: [new tag] Tag release v3.0.2 |
| 00:41.39 | syeren | Either way, thank you for your time and assistance. |
| 00:41.55 | Zeksie | np :) |
| 00:41.59 | Zeksie | rofl |
| 00:42.04 | syeren | The size of the numbers is controlled by omniCC? |
| 00:42.19 | syeren | Or by X-Perl :p |
| 00:42.36 | Zyndrome | blargh, my head |
| 00:42.54 | Zyndrome | can't quickly work out a low 16:10 resolution |
| 00:42.59 | Zeksie | x-perl, if he turns mine on |
| 00:43.51 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 041.0B8 * r1022 : Tagging as Beta 8 |
| 00:44.43 | Torhal | petitions to ban the phrase "Thanks in advance" from all forum posts. |
| 00:45.06 | Stanzilla | Torhal: Don't do that. Thanks in advance! |
| 00:45.14 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 00:45.20 | Stanzilla | giggles |
| 00:46.22 | Repo | 10mountiful: 03Jomar * r14 Mountiful.lua: Mountiful: |
| 00:46.22 | Repo | - added command to make smart mounting use predefined mounts |
| 00:47.22 | Arrowmaster | !api GetKnownSlotFromHighestRankSlot |
| 00:47.22 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetKnownSlotFromHighestRankSlot' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetKnownSlotFromHighestRankSlot |
| 00:47.40 | Arrowmaster | *sigh* |
| 00:48.04 | Arrowmaster | !api UpdateSpells |
| 00:48.04 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'UpdateSpells' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UpdateSpells |
| 00:48.31 | Arrowmaster | *sigh* |
| 00:48.39 | Repo | 10mountiful: 03Jomar 041.3 Beta4 * r15 : Tagging as 1.3 Beta4. |
| 00:49.14 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: You could always have Ackis drycode some function descriptions. |
| 00:49.59 | Arrowmaster | i fired up the hex editor to figure out if those were lua functions or c functions |
| 00:50.03 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 00:50.10 | Arrowmaster | both c functions |
| 00:50.27 | Xinhuan | the koKR guy has to post a updated localization zip 5 minutes after i push an Omen release huh |
| 00:50.29 | Torhal | Blargh |
| 00:50.42 | Xinhuan | he missed the "in before tag!" |
| 00:50.55 | Camci | any rogue here? i need a focus blind macro :p |
| 00:51.32 | Repo | 10ouf_holysmurf: 03sonomus 04Beta 7 * r22 : Tagging as Beta 7. |
| 00:51.36 | [dRaCo] | /cast [modifier] Blind; [target=focus, harm] Blind; Blind |
| 00:52.14 | Repo | 10omen-threat-meter: 03Xinhuan 07master * v3.0.2-1-g6efd64b Localization/koKR.lua: [+1 commit] Update koKR localization from Sayclub. |
| 00:52.55 | mitchnull | how do I get the localized string for PET_ACTION_FOLLOW? |
| 00:52.57 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you ever use the feature of git where you can specifiy the author of the commit as different from the commiter? |
| 00:53.13 | Xinhuan | they aren't commits though |
| 00:53.16 | Xinhuan | they post the zip files up |
| 00:53.27 | Arrowmaster | you can still do it |
| 00:53.28 | Xinhuan | and in some cases, i have to edit those files |
| 00:53.53 | linear` | blizz needs to build omnicc in |
| 00:53.58 | Xinhuan | i'll have to look around to see how to commit specifying a different author |
| 00:54.04 | Xinhuan | but it would just look messy on the changelog |
| 00:54.05 | Camci | thanks dRaCo |
| 00:54.15 | linear` | or just have a number timer by default on cooldown frames |
| 00:55.07 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: you do it with the cmdline |
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| 00:55.22 | Xinhuan | yeah i can't memorize it |
| 00:55.23 | Xinhuan | ;p |
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| 00:58.00 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan |
| 00:58.01 | Arrowmaster | --author=<author> |
| 00:58.02 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.14 | mitchnull | is _G['PET_ACTION_FOLLOW'] the right way to get the localized version of that token? |
| 00:58.20 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 00:58.25 | mitchnull | thanks |
| 00:58.26 | Xinhuan | i'll try it next time |
| 00:59.10 | Xinhuan | if i can remember to |
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| 01:02.34 | Camci | this wont work right? /cast [target=focus] blind |
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| 01:02.53 | Arrowmaster | it will |
| 01:03.04 | Camci | why it says i ahve no target? |
| 01:03.06 | Arrowmaster | if you just want to blind your focus |
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| 01:03.36 | Arrowmaster | do you have a hostile target as your focus? |
| 01:04.03 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r7 / (2 files in 2 directories): - updated db version |
| 01:04.03 | Repo | - storing 3 values now (will eventually allow deletion |
| 01:04.06 | Repo | - reporting on avg values as well now |
| 01:04.54 | Camci | well |
| 01:05.00 | Camci | it can be a hostile too |
| 01:05.10 | Camci | aah |
| 01:05.19 | Camci | no i dont have a hostile atm p |
| 01:05.20 | Camci | :p |
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| 01:05.44 | Camci | prolly why it says i have no target but, thought it would say target is friendlty |
| 01:05.46 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 041.2-release * r8 : Tagging as 1.2-release. |
| 01:06.22 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 01:06.23 | Repo | LDB display of currencies, gold totals and money rate for all characters on a server. |
| 01:06.24 | Arrowmaster | you have a friendly focus target and no normal target? |
| 01:06.27 | Ackis | oh how blizzard has ruined wow... a ret pally in terrible gear can 3 hit me wearing stuff from KJ |
| 01:07.25 | NivFreak | it is rather disappointing that raid gear has virtually no survivability |
| 01:08.04 | Arrowmaster | lol i found a bug in blizzards SpellBookFrame.lua |
| 01:08.08 | Camci | Arrowmaster im trying it on a friendly target |
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| 01:08.38 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r3 libs/: libs folder |
| 01:08.51 | Camci | Ackis get resillience :p |
| 01:09.50 | Shefki | Resilience doesn't matter much atm. |
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| 01:10.32 | Xuerian | 80 hasn't been balanced enough, much less 70 with the new shit.. |
| 01:11.38 | NivFreak | I killed a rogue and feral druid in org last night |
| 01:11.41 | NivFreak | (prot warrior) |
| 01:11.43 | NivFreak | I lawled |
| 01:11.59 | sacarasc | prot warriors are stupid good |
| 01:12.08 | NivFreak | it's so alien, I love it |
| 01:12.18 | NivFreak | I've been prot 98% of the time since lvl 62 |
| 01:12.25 | NivFreak | I'm so used to being gimpy |
| 01:12.36 | NivFreak | the only things I could ever kill were rogues before hemo, and hunters |
| 01:12.44 | NivFreak | and maybe an AFK clothie |
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| 01:17.45 | Ackis | is this pro, or can it be proer? /use [flyable,nomounted,outdoors] Albino Drake; [noflyable,nomounted,outdoors] Big Blizzard Bear; Inner Fire |
| 01:17.55 | Ackis | Camci: I killed KJ, why don't I get free resil on that staff? :P |
| 01:18.12 | Camci | Ackis: i was rank 14 why dont i get free season 4? :P |
| 01:19.21 | Ackis | you should've got free pvp gear... wait you did :P |
| 01:19.34 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 01:19.45 | Camci | haha :P |
| 01:19.46 | Ackis | sup Shirik |
| 01:20.40 | Zeksie | OH THAT'S SO GAY>... Was running around Hellfire with my latest newbie alt... and Fel Reaver comes over the hill at 500 miles per hour (location catching up to what it should be I guess), and smacks me one on the way past... |
| 01:20.55 | Arrowmaster | thats nothing |
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| 01:21.12 | Arrowmaster | guildmate had a felreaver punce on him while he was flying over hellfire |
| 01:21.25 | Zeksie | heh |
| 01:21.36 | Guest7277 | Freenode apparently hates me |
| 01:21.42 | Guest7277 | 14(2011:2011:1214) 14(11+Shirik14) try /use [mounted] [nooutdoors] Inner Fire; [flyable] Albino Drake; Big Blizzard Bear |
| 01:21.53 | Zeksie | sure, it's nice that you can now see him clear accross the zone... but pls... make it work right |
| 01:21.56 | Guest7277 | I hate you |
| 01:21.57 | Guest7277 | SO MUCH |
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| 01:22.33 | Ackis | poor Shirik lol |
| 01:23.00 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: found a bug in omen i told you to fix but you changed everything around and it still exists |
| 01:23.21 | Ackis | Shirik: I had to add something that had no mount action so my macro had an icon when I was mounted lol |
| 01:23.33 | Shirik | You could just do #showtooltip |
| 01:23.50 | Ackis | yah but w/o the inner fire in there it didn't show anything for while I was mounted |
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| 01:23.55 | Shirik | Sure it can |
| 01:24.01 | Ackis | really? |
| 01:24.08 | Shirik | #showtooltip [flyable] Albino Drake; Big Blizzard Bear |
| 01:24.16 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: your still using GetNumPartyMembers() instead of GetRealNumPartyMembers() |
| 01:24.18 | Ackis | ahh |
| 01:24.42 | Xinhuan | i fail to see how that matters Arrowmaster |
| 01:25.09 | Xinhuan | in fact, i cannot use GetRealNumPartyMembers() |
| 01:25.20 | Xinhuan | because omen CAN be legitimately used in a battleground |
| 01:25.24 | Xinhuan | on NPCs and on player pets |
| 01:25.29 | Xinhuan | such as threat on drekthar |
| 01:25.36 | Xinhuan | and threat on galvanger/belinda |
| 01:25.46 | Xinhuan | and its where i did most testing |
| 01:26.20 | Camci | who uses threatmeters in BGs |
| 01:26.25 | Arrowmaster | well the hide in pvp option is perty much a toggle since if you dont enable it then its always going to be shown |
| 01:26.40 | Camci | the "bosses" in AV dies in 15 seconds anyway, and tehre is almost never a "tank" :p |
| 01:26.42 | Arrowmaster | ignoring all other options |
| 01:26.43 | Xinhuan | its by default off, but it can be turned on to see threat behaviors |
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| 01:27.20 | Xinhuan | have you people tried turning off the "ignore player pets" option? and see a player pet's threat table in pvp ;p |
| 01:27.25 | Xinhuan | its interesting sometimes |
| 01:28.15 | Xinhuan | also, a user can "manual toggle" omen on |
| 01:28.24 | Xinhuan | and it'll remain visible the remainder of the BG until he zones out |
| 01:29.04 | Camci | man gief fallout 3 mmorpg :p |
| 01:29.30 | Xinhuan | also, i didn't check what IsInInstance() returns for Lake Wintergrasp |
| 01:29.34 | Xinhuan | but i'll bet it isn't an instance |
| 01:29.36 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r4 libs/: -- SVN externals |
| 01:31.05 | Xinhuan | have you ever wondered how the "crossbowman" on top of those AV towers pick their targets to shoot at? |
| 01:31.12 | Xinhuan | omen will now tell you ;p |
| 01:31.30 | Xinhuan | it always bugs me why they shoot me even if i didn't do anything, and there's plenty of other ppl in range |
| 01:32.57 | Camci | will it too retarded like black edges on the sides if i record something in 1920x1200 and edit it as 1280x720? |
| 01:33.05 | Camci | too=look |
| 01:33.19 | Camci | (on my screen as 1920x1200) |
| 01:33.28 | Xinhuan | why can't you use the original size? |
| 01:33.40 | Ackis | Xinhuan: what's the best way to get the rare mob in BC achievement |
| 01:33.42 | Camci | 1920x1200 ? |
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| 01:33.58 | Xinhuan | Ackis: use the /tar macro on wowhead comments that has every mob in it |
| 01:33.59 | Camci | how would that look like for someone that isnt using 1920x1200? |
| 01:34.13 | Xinhuan | Camci, they should scale it down via the player |
| 01:34.23 | Camci | im talking about full screen |
| 01:34.44 | Xinhuan | it'll still scale |
| 01:34.48 | Xinhuan | and maintain aspect ratio |
| 01:34.51 | Camci | mm |
| 01:34.59 | Xinhuan | there will just be black bars on top and below |
| 01:35.01 | Xinhuan | like in the cinema |
| 01:35.32 | Xinhuan | of course, releasing a video at 1920x1200 means you get a super huge file |
| 01:35.45 | Camci | cuz i just made a video, with 1920x1200. editted it for 1280x720 but i see black edges on the sides. I guess others that doesnt run 1920x1200 wont see the edges? |
| 01:35.48 | Xinhuan | so in the interests of smaller file sizes, you might want to scale it down anyway |
| 01:36.02 | Xinhuan | not sure, depends on how your encoder did it |
| 01:36.18 | Arrowmaster | 1280x720 is 16:9 |
| 01:36.21 | Xinhuan | lua> 1920/1200, 1280/720 |
| 01:36.24 | mitchnull | hm. why is my svn ci stuck? |
| 01:36.30 | Arrowmaster | 1920x1200 is 16:10 |
| 01:36.37 | Arrowmaster | thats why you have the bars |
| 01:36.42 | Xinhuan | lua> print(1920/1200, 1280/720) |
| 01:36.46 | Xinhuan | bot died |
| 01:36.54 | mitchnull | no bot no commit? |
| 01:37.00 | Camci | funny thing is its fucking confusing. i have another video with 1280x720 that shows the whole wide, no black screen on edges. |
| 01:37.04 | |Pixel| | 1920x1080 is 16:9 |
| 01:37.12 | Camci | but why is the one i made have black sides? i dont get it |
| 01:37.16 | Xinhuan | well, you should check the ratio |
| 01:37.23 | Camci | ratio.. mm |
| 01:37.25 | Camci | how do i do that? :P |
| 01:37.31 | Xinhuan | divide width by height (duh) |
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| 01:37.37 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1.6, 1.7777777777778 |
| 01:37.39 | Arrowmaster | Camci: probably because when you resized it, the bars on the side were added to the video by the shitty program you used |
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| 01:38.00 | Camci | there isnt "bars" the video fill screen doesnt go all the way to the edge |
| 01:38.01 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r5 libs/: -- svn:ignore |
| 01:38.04 | Xinhuan | see, the aspect ration is different |
| 01:38.07 | Xinhuan | ratio |
| 01:38.10 | Camci | and im using sony vegas 8 |
| 01:38.14 | Arrowmaster | shit |
| 01:38.30 | Camci | let me see the ratio on this 2 videos |
| 01:38.51 | Arrowmaster | it resized it without changing the aspect ratio, so it added black bars on the sides |
| 01:39.09 | Arrowmaster | since the smaller res isnt as tall ratio wise |
| 01:39.28 | Xinhuan | if it didn't add the black bars, your video would look fatter |
| 01:39.30 | Camci | sec |
| 01:39.42 | Camci | hmm |
| 01:40.10 | Camci | 1,000 (Square) |
| 01:40.17 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r6 .pkgmeta: build instructions |
| 01:40.23 | Arrowmaster | whats that suppost to mean |
| 01:40.25 | Xinhuan | we're not talking about the pixel aspect ratio |
| 01:40.26 | Camci | is that what you ment? |
| 01:40.29 | Camci | ah |
| 01:40.30 | Camci | :S |
| 01:40.31 | Xinhuan | we're talking abuot the resolution |
| 01:40.35 | Xinhuan | of the video |
| 01:40.51 | Xinhuan | width/height = ratio |
| 01:41.18 | Camci | High definition (1280x720) |
| 01:41.20 | Arrowmaster | 1280x720 = 16:9 a widescreen tv ratio |
| 01:41.23 | Xinhuan | a 17" non-widescreen monitor has 1280x1024, or a ratio of 1.25 |
| 01:41.32 | Xinhuan | or 5:4 |
| 01:41.44 | Arrowmaster | 1920x1200 = 16:10 a widescreen computer ratio |
| 01:41.51 | Repo | 10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 * r73 / (3 files in 1 directory): - fixed spells that replace lower ranks (rogues/warriors) |
| 01:41.52 | Repo | - increased update frequency to 25FPS while fading for smoother effect |
| 01:41.53 | Repo | - fixed petbar ignore texts |
| 01:41.56 | Repo | - minor optimization in OnUpdate |
| 01:41.59 | Arrowmaster | 1920x1080 = 16:9 a widescreen tv ratio |
| 01:42.06 | Arrowmaster | see the difference |
| 01:42.10 | Xinhuan | 16:10 is "horizintally longer" than 5:4 basically |
| 01:42.24 | Xinhuan | because one is 1.6 the other is 1.25 |
| 01:42.28 | Arrowmaster | lets just not talk about 5:4 |
| 01:42.31 | Camci | yea I see the differences but |
| 01:42.33 | Arrowmaster | and forget it exists |
| 01:42.46 | Camci | I have 2 video files, both in same resolution, 1280c720 |
| 01:42.46 | Xinhuan | the only thing that uses 5:4 is 17" anyway |
| 01:42.50 | Camci | one of them shows the edges |
| 01:42.57 | Camci | the other one doest and fits perfectly |
| 01:42.59 | Arrowmaster | Camci: did you encode both of them? |
| 01:43.04 | Xinhuan | Camci, the resolution of the SOURCE matters |
| 01:43.11 | Camci | oh i see |
| 01:43.14 | Camci | source |
| 01:43.16 | Camci | :P |
| 01:43.34 | Arrowmaster | when you encoded yours you didnt tell the encoder to not keep the aspect ratio |
| 01:43.34 | Camci | so i cant make it fit with my 1920x1200 res files then? |
| 01:43.37 | Xinhuan | a video recorded at 1280x720 will obviously perfect fit 1280x720 |
| 01:43.38 | Arrowmaster | so it added the black bars |
| 01:43.46 | Camci | (im running 26 tum screen |
| 01:43.57 | Camci | eeer |
| 01:44.05 | Camci | ill check the settings one more time |
| 01:44.21 | Arrowmaster | if you really want to encode it at 1280x720 then you need to let the program adjust the aspect ratio so it wont add the bars |
| 01:44.35 | Arrowmaster | also what codec are you using? im curious |
| 01:44.45 | Repo | 10cooldown-to-go: 03mitch0 04v1.4.2 * r74 : Tagging as v1.4.2. |
| 01:44.49 | Camci | and do you know how in sony vegas? |
| 01:44.52 | Arrowmaster | guessing divx or xvid? |
| 01:44.54 | Camci | i used wmv |
| 01:44.57 | Camci | both is wmv |
| 01:44.58 | Arrowmaster | eww |
| 01:45.03 | Camci | well |
| 01:45.10 | Arrowmaster | and wmv isnt a codec |
| 01:45.11 | Xinhuan | when you shrink 1920x1200, to maintain aspect ratio it becomes --> 1280x1080 |
| 01:45.11 | Camci | its small size with good quality |
| 01:45.13 | Camci | :P |
| 01:45.25 | Xinhuan | but you are trying to squeeze a 1280x1080 into a 1280x720 |
| 01:45.32 | Xinhuan | so it has to srink it even further |
| 01:45.51 | Camci | ok |
| 01:45.51 | Arrowmaster | lua> 1920/1200, 1280/1080 |
| 01:45.52 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1.6, 1.1851851851852 |
| 01:46.04 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: *cough* |
| 01:46.05 | ckknight | lua> 1280/720 |
| 01:46.06 | lua_bot | ckknight: 1.7777777777778 |
| 01:46.20 | Xinhuan | yeah my math sucks today :< |
| 01:46.25 | ckknight | lua> 1280 / 1.6 |
| 01:46.25 | Camci | my question is, is there a way to edit this shit, to make sure everyone out there WONT get the black edges? either if they are running 1920.1200 or 1280? |
| 01:46.25 | lua_bot | ckknight: 800 |
| 01:46.38 | Xinhuan | no. |
| 01:46.41 | Camci | ok |
| 01:46.46 | Xinhuan | the black edges are dependant on the viewer's screen |
| 01:46.46 | Arrowmaster | Camci: yes |
| 01:46.51 | Camci | lol |
| 01:47.02 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: no his black edges are actually encoded into the video |
| 01:47.03 | Xinhuan | but also dependant on whether you encoded any black bars into your video |
| 01:47.44 | Camci | any of you uses sony vegas and can direct me into this to make sure i dont have black bars? |
| 01:47.47 | Xinhuan | if you don't want black bars, and your original size is 1920x1200, you have to encode it to the same ratio of 1.6 |
| 01:47.59 | Arrowmaster | Camci: either use 1280x800 instead of 1280x720, or let the program mess up the aspect ratio of the video a little so that it shrinks it vertically a little |
| 01:48.01 | Camci | 1.6 |
| 01:48.04 | Xinhuan | that is, 1280x800 |
| 01:48.31 | Camci | ok |
| 01:48.45 | Camci | thanks, ill encode it one more then :) |
| 01:48.46 | Xinhuan | i thought this was obvious hehe ;p |
| 01:48.53 | Camci | heh :p |
| 01:49.31 | Arrowmaster | you would be supprised how badly people can mess up video encoding, even those that suposedly do it a lot |
| 01:49.55 | Camci | hey i have dont good encoding without the shit black bars i just forget, been a while since last time xD |
| 01:49.58 | Camci | done* |
| 01:50.05 | Xinhuan | Camci: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg |
| 01:50.32 | Camci | cool |
| 01:50.35 | Xinhuan | your source is at the purple colored ratio |
| 01:50.47 | Arrowmaster | 5:4 doesnt exist |
| 01:50.48 | Arrowmaster | its a lie |
| 01:50.56 | Xinhuan | so when you shrink it, you should shrink it to the same colored ratio sizes |
| 01:51.05 | Xinhuan | see the purple diagonal line |
| 01:51.06 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 01:51.14 | Xinhuan | from the top left corner to the bottom right |
| 01:51.17 | Camci | yea |
| 01:51.30 | Xinhuan | you were trying to shrink it to 1280x720 which is the blue boxes |
| 01:51.39 | NivFreak | Any of you guys raided Obsidian Sanctum or Eye of Eternity on beta? |
| 01:51.45 | Xinhuan | understand the concept now? ;p |
| 01:51.46 | Camci | I see |
| 01:51.50 | Camci | yea i think so :P |
| 01:51.53 | Camci | Thanks man |
| 01:51.55 | Xinhuan | see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_Aspect_Ratio |
| 01:52.59 | Arrowmaster | and since you were using one with less height, instead of cutting off part of the video or streching it vertically, it added blank space on the sides |
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| 01:53.36 | Xinhuan | the talk pages of those articles have arguments about 5:4 lol |
| 01:53.43 | Camci | gonna try with 1280x800 then |
| 01:53.49 | Arrowmaster | that it never should have been created? |
| 01:54.24 | Xinhuan | despite so, 17" monitors are fairly common in the market |
| 01:54.29 | Xinhuan | and are at 5:4 |
| 01:54.44 | Arrowmaster | they could have used a proper ratio |
| 01:54.53 | Xinhuan | until the 19" widescreen replaced the 17" non-wide |
| 01:54.57 | Xinhuan | now the standard is 22" wide |
| 01:55.00 | Arrowmaster | 1280x960 |
| 01:55.09 | Camci | ya thast why i thought id lower it, but WITHOUT the black bars, as i dont think many has 26" monitors |
| 01:55.32 | Camci | but that wouldnt had matters |
| 01:55.33 | Camci | mattered |
| 01:55.34 | Camci | :p |
| 01:55.43 | Camci | ratio! |
| 01:55.44 | Camci | got it |
| 01:55.45 | Camci | >_> |
| 01:55.46 | Xinhuan | wanna paypal me some money? ;p |
| 01:55.46 | Camci | <_< |
| 01:55.55 | Xinhuan | 26" monitor fund |
| 01:56.00 | Camci | :P |
| 01:56.12 | Camci | get the one i got, rather cheap |
| 01:56.35 | Arrowmaster | if only there were any decent lcds now of 24"+ that werent $1000+ |
| 01:56.37 | Xinhuan | i can't even afford a 22" wide atm |
| 01:56.42 | Xinhuan | let alone a 26" |
| 01:56.54 | Xinhuan | i use dual 17" as it is, i actually have 3 17" |
| 01:57.17 | |Pixel| | 24" from Dell FTW |
| 01:57.22 | Arrowmaster | i use a 20" lcd and a crt i dont even remember what size it is |
| 01:57.33 | Arrowmaster | |Pixel|: i looked at the 24" dells and hated it |
| 01:58.01 | |Pixel| | really ? |
| 01:58.02 | Arrowmaster | its not an ips panel |
| 01:58.05 | |Pixel| | which one actually |
| 01:58.08 | |Pixel| | there's several ones |
| 01:58.14 | Arrowmaster | the 2408 |
| 01:58.16 | |Pixel| | one that sucks, and one that''s very good |
| 01:58.47 | Arrowmaster | i know about dells two different lines of monitors |
| 01:58.48 | Camci | http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/detail/detail.do?group=itbusiness&type=monitors&subtype=lcd&model_cd=LS26TWHSUV/EN |
| 01:58.55 | |Pixel| | yes, exactly |
| 01:59.09 | |Pixel| | one that's cheap, and one that's expensive :) |
| 01:59.16 | |Pixel| | the cheap one is really crappy |
| 01:59.30 | Arrowmaster | the expensive one is too |
| 01:59.33 | Arrowmaster | its not an ips panel |
| 01:59.47 | Arrowmaster | Camci: ewwwww |
| 01:59.52 | Arrowmaster | 5ms response time |
| 01:59.55 | Arrowmaster | ewwwwwww |
| 02:00.00 | Arrowmaster | its a TN panel |
| 02:00.04 | Arrowmaster | ewwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 02:00.17 | Camci | wtf:P |
| 02:00.31 | Camci | 5ms is good, the one i had before had like 17 :P |
| 02:01.09 | Arrowmaster | response time isnt everything |
| 02:01.20 | Arrowmaster | theres 3 different types of lcd panels |
| 02:01.28 | Camci | ofc not, it look hot aswell |
| 02:01.29 | Camci | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.31 | Arrowmaster | the fastest ones are actually the worst |
| 02:01.59 | mitchnull | but the ips ones cost at least twice as much |
| 02:02.10 | mitchnull | and I don't think they're _that_ better |
| 02:02.19 | mitchnull | (especially for gaming) |
| 02:02.21 | Camci | Xinhuan: does pixel aspect ratio matter anything? |
| 02:02.38 | Arrowmaster | for gaming maybe not so much |
| 02:02.42 | Arrowmaster | but for other stuff it does |
| 02:02.43 | Xinhuan | you should be using 1:1 pixel aspect ratio 99.9% of the time |
| 02:02.57 | Camci | i can choose from 2 only, 1.000 and 1.333 |
| 02:03.01 | mitchnull | arrow: yeah, like publishing. but not for normal office work either |
| 02:03.03 | Arrowmaster | being able to view the screen well at off angles is very nice |
| 02:03.15 | Xinhuan | if you choose the other, i assure you your video will be 33% fatter horizontally |
| 02:03.23 | Xinhuan | and your char will look really fat |
| 02:03.24 | Camci | heh |
| 02:03.24 | mitchnull | gah, I don't want my cow-orkers peeking my monitor anyway ;) |
| 02:03.39 | Xinhuan | and plump |
| 02:03.41 | Camci | sticking with the one i have then |
| 02:03.56 | Arrowmaster | ive been using an ips panel since 2003-4 |
| 02:03.58 | Xinhuan | pixel aspect ratios are only relevant for TVs |
| 02:04.04 | Arrowmaster | i wouldnt give it up for anything worse |
| 02:04.12 | Xinhuan | because not all TVs are 1:1 |
| 02:04.16 | Camci | how about frame rate then? some say 25 is good some say 30 |
| 02:04.24 | Xinhuan | just use the standard 30.0 |
| 02:04.27 | Arrowmaster | use whatever the source is |
| 02:04.29 | Camci | ok |
| 02:04.39 | Xinhuan | if your source is at a particular frame rate |
| 02:04.39 | Arrowmaster | dont change it from the source |
| 02:04.43 | Xinhuan | you should use htat framerate |
| 02:04.52 | Xinhuan | so that it doesn't have to interpolate frames |
| 02:05.05 | Camci | ok |
| 02:05.58 | mitchnull | laterz |
| 02:05.58 | Primer | ckknight: How hard would it be to make PitBull store unit frame postitions separately from everything else? I sync SavedVariables/PitBull.lua across 3 different machines, one of which is a 16:9. |
| 02:05.58 | ckknight | urg |
| 02:05.58 | Primer | the other 2 are 4:3 |
| 02:05.58 | ckknight | I suppose it's possible |
| 02:05.58 | Xinhuan | my server's trade channel has been going on for 1 hour about mccain and obama and osama |
| 02:05.58 | ckknight | but it might be a bitch... |
| 02:05.59 | ckknight | hrm |
| 02:06.12 | Primer | ckknight: yeah, I figured it might be |
| 02:06.16 | Camci | Xinhuan do the Anal trade, always funny :P |
| 02:06.20 | Arrowmaster | i really wish the lcd makers would end the refresh rate war |
| 02:06.23 | Primer | I mean, not many people do that, I'm sure |
| 02:06.26 | Arrowmaster | overdrive sucks |
| 02:06.30 | Xinhuan | it was Anal trade before they switched the topic to obama |
| 02:06.35 | Camci | oh |
| 02:06.39 | Camci | >.< |
| 02:06.40 | Xinhuan | they only linked the legendary bow about 160 times |
| 02:06.49 | Xinhuan | cos my guild was alliance first to drop it |
| 02:06.52 | Primer | but it's nice to be able to configure all my addons on one box, then sync the WTF and AddOns directories with rsync |
| 02:06.54 | Xinhuan | but 8th to kill KJ |
| 02:07.00 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Finish toc |
| 02:07.01 | Repo | -- Add the toc strings that need localization for each language. |
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| 02:07.45 | Xinhuan | and the best part is, i gave that bow to a person not in my guild LOL! |
| 02:07.51 | Xinhuan | sigh |
| 02:07.59 | Camci | now why would you do that |
| 02:08.07 | Xinhuan | cos we did 20 ppl from my guild, and 5 from another |
| 02:08.14 | Xinhuan | and the sole hunter was the other guild |
| 02:08.18 | linear` | why do people put a _ before their variables, whats it suppose to mean |
| 02:08.25 | Camci | so again, why would you do that? :P |
| 02:08.27 | Xinhuan | linear`: just a valid variable name |
| 02:08.32 | Xinhuan | like any other variable |
| 02:08.49 | Xinhuan | its *usually* used in a throwaway situation |
| 02:08.58 | linear` | i see |
| 02:08.59 | Xinhuan | where the contents of the _ variable is irrelevant/unused |
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| 02:09.43 | Xinhuan | cos my guild's hunters left and joined better guilds |
| 02:09.49 | Xinhuan | :< |
| 02:11.11 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.02.00 beta wotlk release * r8 : Tagging as v3.00.02.00 beta wotlk release. |
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| 02:13.12 | Camci | have you used sony vegas? is there any way i can preview as full screen how a resolution would look like? |
| 02:13.19 | Xinhuan | you can encode a subsection of your full video |
| 02:13.19 | Hell-Razor | you dont need high refresh for lcd monitors |
| 02:13.20 | Xinhuan | search the help file |
| 02:13.29 | Hell-Razor | ...eww |
| 02:13.52 | Camci | im encoding it as 1280x800 and this time there is no black edges on the sides on the small preview screen |
| 02:13.55 | Camci | 720 there was |
| 02:14.00 | Camci | hopefully this isi t :p |
| 02:14.52 | Camci | yea seems to work |
| 02:14.56 | Camci | cheers |
| 02:15.27 | Camci | ill finish it before i sleep and encode it when i sleep, need to play fallout 3 nwo :p |
| 02:15.48 | Camci | ow one more thing, do you use sony vegas Xinhuan ? |
| 02:16.59 | Xinhuan | no |
| 02:17.58 | Camci | i was wondering tho, when you create a new project you can choose what reso to use, my project is 1280x720. but when you wanna render it you can choose a different resolution. |
| 02:18.10 | Camci | would it matter of i choose a different resolution when i render it? :P |
| 02:18.36 | Camci | cuz i really dont wanna edit the whole shit again |
| 02:18.41 | Camci | ^^ |
| 02:19.07 | Xinhuan | yes it matters |
| 02:19.24 | Camci | :S |
| 02:19.33 | Xinhuan | because it converts your video from 19xx whatever your size is, to 1280x720, then resize it back up to 1280x800 |
| 02:19.36 | Xinhuan | so the quality is different |
| 02:19.50 | Camci | fucking hell |
| 02:19.51 | Xinhuan | do it once, do it right |
| 02:19.53 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 02:20.00 | Xinhuan | sorry, that's the truth hehe |
| 02:20.03 | Camci | hours of work for waste |
| 02:20.09 | Camci | oh well :P |
| 02:20.23 | Camci | guess im skipping fallout 3 for now lol |
| 02:20.42 | Xinhuan | it shouldn't even take more than 20 minutes to render a 8 min video |
| 02:20.45 | Xinhuan | if your computer is any decent |
| 02:21.06 | Camci | video is 14 min and it took about 1-2 hours to render it |
| 02:21.10 | Camci | computer is more then decent |
| 02:21.42 | Xinhuan | and whats the output file size? |
| 02:21.49 | Xinhuan | 800 mb video? |
| 02:22.04 | Camci | 240 mb actually |
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| 02:22.18 | Xinhuan | if its that small, it shouldn't be taking 2 hours |
| 02:22.40 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck are you fitting 14 minutes of 1280x800 into 240mb |
| 02:22.42 | Camci | not 2 but 1 hour and 20 min, max |
| 02:22.59 | Camci | good question Arrowmaster :p |
| 02:23.07 | Camci | quality was very good too |
| 02:23.09 | Xinhuan | he's probably doing it in a super low bitrate |
| 02:23.20 | Xinhuan | what codec? |
| 02:23.31 | Camci | i dont know? |
| 02:23.32 | Arrowmaster | he said wmv earlier but thats not really a codec |
| 02:23.39 | Xinhuan | divx? xvid? |
| 02:23.46 | doom0r|away | correct, it's just a container |
| 02:23.56 | Camci | Video: 30,000 fps, 1280x720, Quality VBR 90, WMV V9 Compression. |
| 02:24.06 | Xinhuan | right. |
| 02:24.14 | Xinhuan | WMV sucks ;p |
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| 02:24.20 | Camci | no wait its Bit rate VBR |
| 02:24.31 | Camci | well i got no clue of the others |
| 02:24.36 | Arrowmaster | so does divx and xvid though |
| 02:24.39 | doom0r | vbr is variable bitrate |
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| 02:24.49 | Arrowmaster | they destroy dark scenes |
| 02:25.06 | doom0r | man ffmpeg |
| 02:25.14 | Camci | [03:24] <doom0r> vbr is variable bitrate - no idea what that means :P |
| 02:25.26 | doom0r | bitrate changes |
| 02:25.28 | Xinhuan | it means exactly what it says |
| 02:25.31 | doom0r | opposite of constant bitrate |
| 02:25.33 | Arrowmaster | everything is VBR now |
| 02:25.51 | Xinhuan | video codecs record changes between 2 frames |
| 02:25.56 | Camci | avarage bit rate is for 2 M |
| 02:26.00 | Xinhuan | if there's lots of changes, it usually uses more data |
| 02:26.03 | Camci | (bps) |
| 02:26.03 | Xinhuan | or bitrate |
| 02:26.32 | Xinhuan | but over the course of a entire video, the whole thing has an average bitrate |
| 02:26.40 | Arrowmaster | ive seen a video that spikes to 50,000 bps in h264 |
| 02:26.51 | Xinhuan | and VBR tries to increase/decrease the bitrate on the whole to meet a average goal |
| 02:27.06 | Xinhuan | your average bitrate will directly impact your video file size |
| 02:27.11 | Camci | you know what, let me just get this shit project to 1280x800, encode it, upload it and give you the link so you can download and watch it :P |
| 02:27.11 | Xinhuan | and quality |
| 02:27.33 | Camci | what should it be on then? 2 M was good so i heard |
| 02:27.39 | Camci | default is 1 |
| 02:27.42 | Xinhuan | a good quality video will have **readable text** in chat frames |
| 02:28.02 | Camci | you can read my text |
| 02:28.12 | doom0r | beowulf rendering cluster imo |
| 02:28.13 | Arrowmaster | at 1920x1200 i bet |
| 02:28.24 | Camci | its not PERFECTLY readable but readable it is |
| 02:28.25 | Arrowmaster | but once its encoded can you? |
| 02:28.26 | Xinhuan | that is, if the /rw says /rw blah blah, you can actually read it clearly instead of half blured text |
| 02:28.31 | Camci | no i mean the encoded one |
| 02:28.32 | Camci | yea |
| 02:28.37 | Xinhuan | if its half blurred, then its poor quality |
| 02:28.47 | Xinhuan | and that's mostly affected by the bitrate / VBR |
| 02:28.52 | Arrowmaster | most fraps are shitty because they are recorded at half size or less |
| 02:29.01 | Camci | so how much should i but the bps on then= |
| 02:29.02 | Arrowmaster | so the original video isnt even readable |
| 02:29.03 | Camci | ? |
| 02:29.13 | Xinhuan | that depends entirely on you |
| 02:29.28 | doom0r | the real question is the algorithm choice and it's tuning |
| 02:29.29 | Camci | the file cant pass 500 MB |
| 02:29.45 | Camci | thats my only limit |
| 02:30.12 | Xinhuan | for example, in the XVid codec encoder, you can specify a target file size, and it will try to maximise your bitrate to hit that file size |
| 02:30.29 | Xinhuan | you would need to do a 2-pass encoding to achieve that though |
| 02:30.32 | Xinhuan | not 1-pass |
| 02:30.42 | Camci | actually what i should do it make a small video, like 1 min long, and try all this stuff and see what is best :P |
| 02:31.24 | Arrowmaster | most encoders let you use more than 1 pass |
| 02:31.38 | Xinhuan | ya hence i used it as an example |
| 02:31.42 | Xinhuan | WMV doesn't ;p |
| 02:31.43 | Camci | god dont go into pass too, no idea wtf that is |
| 02:31.44 | Xinhuan | i think |
| 02:31.49 | Arrowmaster | because wmv is crap |
| 02:32.11 | Xinhuan | well, 1-pass means, it encodes the video in 1 go |
| 02:32.21 | Xinhuan | 2-pass means, you need to encode it twice (i.e twice as long) |
| 02:32.28 | Camci | i see |
| 02:32.46 | Camci | pixel format? 8 bit or 32 bit? |
| 02:32.49 | Camci | ;P |
| 02:32.52 | Xinhuan | in the first pass, it does some precalculations to see the entire video contents so that it an best optimize for video quality when it does the actual encoding in the 2nd pass |
| 02:33.04 | Xinhuan | the 1st pass doesn't actually encode anything, its just for calculations for the 2nd pass |
| 02:33.07 | Arrowmaster | the first pass makes a map the second pass will use to know when high bitrate and low bitrate parts are coming up |
| 02:33.11 | Xinhuan | but both passes will take equally long |
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| 02:33.50 | Neffi | Are there any working ButtonFacade-able buff addons that support target buffs, that are NOT SBF? |
| 02:34.13 | doom0r | dunno if facadebuff does that or not |
| 02:34.31 | Stanzilla | w00t patchday |
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| 02:34.42 | Camci | how important is seconds per keyframe? |
| 02:35.00 | Xinhuan | everything is important ;p |
| 02:35.08 | Camci | i got headace :( |
| 02:35.11 | Xinhuan | just use the default |
| 02:35.14 | Xinhuan | what does it say |
| 02:35.16 | Camci | 3 |
| 02:35.25 | Neffi | It doesn |
| 02:35.33 | Neffi | It doesn't appear to by the code =( |
| 02:35.49 | Xinhuan | in a video, there are 3 types of frames |
| 02:35.53 | Arrowmaster | keyframes are very important |
| 02:36.02 | Xinhuan | B-frame, I Frame and P-frames |
| 02:36.04 | sztanpet | ~wowalert |
| 02:36.05 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 02:36.05 | Stanzilla | Glyph of Shadow - While in Shadowform, your spell critical strikes increase your spell power by 10% of your Spirit for 10 sec. < whaaa |
| 02:36.06 | Stanzilla | crap |
| 02:36.59 | Xinhuan | A b-frame is a frame that stores complete information about it |
| 02:37.15 | Xinhuan | that is, a video player can jump straight to a B-frame and draw it on screen |
| 02:37.19 | Camci | Xinhuan stop stop stop :P |
| 02:37.19 | Xinhuan | because the full data is there |
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| 02:37.50 | Camci | im testing some stuff encoding a 15 sec long video |
| 02:37.52 | Xinhuan | and i-frame or p-frame are frames in between the b-frames, and only contain differences from the b-frames |
| 02:38.13 | Camci | yay no black bars |
| 02:38.18 | doom0r | the realm status forums sucks, i don't know why they even say to check there |
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| 02:39.06 | Camci | so higher bps is better quality right? |
| 02:39.06 | Xinhuan | the VLC player kinda sucks in this respect because it doesn't jump to the nearest B-frame when you click to jump |
| 02:39.59 | Xinhuan | so you get all those weird colors until it next syncs with a B-frame |
| 02:40.07 | Camci | ow yea |
| 02:40.19 | Camci | i seen such videos on my vlc player actually |
| 02:40.27 | Camci | takes a few sec or so before it plains out |
| 02:40.29 | Xinhuan | that's a player issue tbh |
| 02:40.32 | Xinhuan | not a video issue |
| 02:40.43 | Camci | i figured so you, works good on windows media player |
| 02:40.47 | Camci | out* |
| 02:40.47 | Xinhuan | a good player jumps to the nearest B-frame, not the exact i-frame or p-frame |
| 02:40.55 | Arrowmaster | vlc is a shitty player |
| 02:41.01 | Camci | i like it still tho |
| 02:41.05 | Camci | nah its good :P |
| 02:41.15 | Arrowmaster | worst subtitle support of any player |
| 02:41.28 | Xinhuan | the only "good" thing about vlc player is, it comes with almost every known codec and installs it for u |
| 02:41.30 | Camci | never had a problem with it :p |
| 02:41.31 | Xinhuan | so its hassle free |
| 02:41.39 | Neffi | Christ |
| 02:41.50 | Neffi | SatrinaBuffFrames is a nightmare |
| 02:41.56 | Camci | you know if BS player also have all the codes in it? |
| 02:41.58 | Camci | codecs* |
| 02:41.59 | Xinhuan | other than that, even WMP is a better player |
| 02:42.10 | Arrowmaster | using ffdshow also gives you support for almost every known codec |
| 02:42.19 | Xinhuan | ya i use ffdshow |
| 02:42.43 | Camci | heard BS.Player is good too just havent had the need to try it out yet |
| 02:42.46 | Arrowmaster | i use CCCP codec pack + coreavc |
| 02:42.55 | Xinhuan | ffdshow's xvid encoder sucks though, compared to the actual one from xvid themselves |
| 02:43.23 | Arrowmaster | and mpc-hc player |
| 02:43.29 | Camci | ok the double bps means the double size |
| 02:43.36 | Xinhuan | anyway, the "3 seconds" B-frame thing |
| 02:43.43 | Xinhuan | just means how often to have b-frames |
| 02:43.44 | Arrowmaster | plus some minor tweaks to a few things like audio matrix |
| 02:44.08 | Camci | so, 240mb would mean 480, under 500 :p |
| 02:44.10 | Xinhuan | so if its at 3 seconds, it means VLC players will suck for 0-3 seconds on jumping into the middle of your video |
| 02:44.49 | Arrowmaster | part of that is also effected by the container |
| 02:45.00 | Neffi | So uh. There's no buff addon that supports target buffs? |
| 02:45.03 | Camci | let me give you 2 examples of the encodes i did |
| 02:45.07 | Camci | one is 5bm, other one is 10 mb |
| 02:45.13 | Camci | wanna see if u see a difference |
| 02:45.24 | Arrowmaster | but i doubt that matters for vlc if it sucks that bad to do stuff like that on everything |
| 02:47.56 | Camci | http://www.awakeningofchaos.com/b/Untitled1.wmv |
| 02:48.03 | Camci | thats the one with 5mb |
| 02:48.06 | Camci | 2 bps |
| 02:49.58 | Camci | uploading the other one now |
| 02:51.46 | Camci | http://www.awakeningofchaos.com/b/Untitled2.wmv |
| 02:51.48 | doom0r | 2bps? |
| 02:51.58 | doom0r | what's that, like 17 seconds? |
| 02:52.04 | Camci | the 10mb one with 4 bps |
| 02:52.07 | doom0r | er, 17 frames |
| 02:52.22 | Camci | i dont know? i just cant see the differences.. more then just the double file size |
| 02:52.26 | Camci | :P |
| 02:52.36 | doom0r | bps = bits per second |
| 02:52.39 | doom0r | i'm kidding |
| 02:52.53 | Camci | avarage with rate: 4 M |
| 02:53.12 | Camci | do you see any difference? :P |
| 02:54.57 | Camci | guess u cant see it either :P |
| 02:55.14 | doom0r | yes i can, takes a min for that crap to send |
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| 02:55.29 | doom0r | it's instantly discernable in the black areas |
| 02:55.38 | Camci | what differences do you see? |
| 02:55.51 | Camci | black areas? |
| 02:55.53 | doom0r | look at the chat frame bg |
| 02:56.08 | doom0r | and the message text in the center of the screen |
| 02:56.19 | Camci | ok |
| 02:56.24 | doom0r | it's still readable though |
| 02:56.34 | doom0r | but it's still a shitty container |
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| 02:56.38 | doom0r | don't use wmv |
| 02:56.57 | Camci | i dont know how others work :/ |
| 02:57.13 | doom0r | man ffmpeg |
| 02:57.14 | Xinhuan | btw Camci |
| 02:57.17 | doom0r | xD |
| 02:57.20 | Xinhuan | next time you encode videos COMPRESS YOUR AUDIO |
| 02:57.30 | Xinhuan | your audio is using up 60% of your video file |
| 02:57.33 | doom0r | is that why it's so huge? |
| 02:57.38 | Camci | lol really? |
| 02:57.40 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:57.50 | Xinhuan | you recorded it in raw audio format, PCM, no compression |
| 02:57.57 | doom0r | roffle |
| 02:58.01 | Camci | i can use 2 mode, one is CBR other one is Quality VBR |
| 02:58.06 | Xinhuan | i said AUDIO |
| 02:58.08 | Xinhuan | not video |
| 02:58.14 | Camci | i know |
| 02:58.16 | Xinhuan | as it is, your 10 mb file, 6 mb of it is the music |
| 02:58.19 | Camci | i ment audio too |
| 02:58.25 | Xinhuan | if you converted that to say, MP3 format |
| 02:58.34 | Xinhuan | or Microsoft ACPDP or whatever it is |
| 02:58.39 | Xinhuan | it would be 10% of that 6 mb |
| 02:58.42 | Xinhuan | or just 600 kb |
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| 02:58.52 | Camci | i used mp3s |
| 02:59.01 | Camci | ffs |
| 02:59.10 | Xinhuan | yes, but your encoder, sony vegas doesn't know you want it to remain as a mp3 |
| 02:59.11 | Camci | how do i compress the audio then? :P |
| 02:59.19 | Xinhuan | you need to select an audio codec obviously |
| 02:59.48 | Xinhuan | also, the 2 videos have little noticable difference because the bitrate you encoded both at is rather high, |
| 03:00.01 | Xinhuan | that is, its using too much bits as it is |
| 03:00.18 | Camci | under audio i can see Mode: CBR or Quality VBR, under there is Format, Windows media audio 9, windows media audio 9.2 and win media audio 10 pro |
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| 03:00.56 | Xinhuan | half the videos you download from WarcraftMovies.com are shit because the encoder didn't compress the audio |
| 03:01.07 | Xinhuan | so half the file is really just uncompressed audio |
| 03:01.11 | doom0r | save teh whales: use 9 if you're gonna use wmv |
| 03:01.12 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 041.7 * r21 : Tagging as 1.7. |
| 03:01.19 | Camci | im using 9.2 |
| 03:01.44 | doom0r | but but OMG Xinhuan, you needz to hearz my 1337z metal band soundz |
| 03:01.59 | Xinhuan | anyway, what VBR (variable bit rate) does is that, its tested/proven that the human eye can discern "less differences" in darker areas |
| 03:02.13 | Camci | ffs ima try this avi shit :P |
| 03:02.20 | Xinhuan | so the encoder then tries to make files smaller by encoding less data in darker areas of a video |
| 03:02.38 | Xinhuan | so less data == less bit rate |
| 03:02.57 | Camci | tell me a audio format then? |
| 03:03.05 | Camci | i cant see mp3 in avi :P |
| 03:03.18 | Arrowmaster | you probably dont have an mp3 encoder then |
| 03:03.30 | Arrowmaster | just use wmv and select wma as the audio |
| 03:03.35 | Xinhuan | MP3, or Microsoft ACPDP or whatever those 5 letters are lol |
| 03:03.36 | Camci | i can see mpeg layer 4 |
| 03:03.37 | Camci | 3 |
| 03:03.47 | Xinhuan | mpeg layer 3 == MP3 |
| 03:03.48 | Camci | yea i see ADPCM |
| 03:03.50 | Camci | oh |
| 03:03.56 | Camci | lol |
| 03:03.56 | Lukian | mpeg layer 3 |
| 03:04.00 | Xinhuan | PCM == uncompressed |
| 03:04.00 | Lukian | sighs |
| 03:04.04 | Camci | lol |
| 03:04.10 | Xinhuan | PCM == Pulse Code Modulation |
| 03:04.23 | Camci | ok gonna try this 15 sec long video :p |
| 03:04.26 | Torhal | Damn. I hide the IRC window to watch Terminator and come back to the Audio/Video channel. |
| 03:04.41 | Lukian | Torhal, it's for wow videos :) |
| 03:04.47 | Torhal | Ah |
| 03:04.55 | Lukian | feel better now? :D |
| 03:05.02 | Torhal | Was just confusing. |
| 03:05.11 | Lukian | heeh |
| 03:05.12 | Stanzilla | never hide irc |
| 03:05.15 | Torhal | Was wondering why you all didn't jump to another channel. Heh |
| 03:05.17 | Stanzilla | use 2 monitors |
| 03:05.35 | Torhal | Feh. I'm still running on a computer from 2003 :P |
| 03:05.42 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 03:05.43 | Arrowmaster | i cant read my 2nd monitor very well, i never put irc on it |
| 03:05.45 | Torhal | Though, I do have a 22" widescreen LCD... |
| 03:06.04 | Primer | Is there an instance addon for mapster? |
| 03:06.06 | Arrowmaster | my computer is from 2003 and ive got 2 monitors |
| 03:06.12 | Arrowmaster | Primer: InstanceMaps |
| 03:06.22 | Torhal | I'd rather get a newer system than another monitor |
| 03:06.29 | Primer | Arrowmaster: thanks |
| 03:06.31 | Torhal | Though I'm sure I could get a cheapie for $50 |
| 03:06.57 | Arrowmaster | my 2nd monitor is a 17" crt i 'aquired' from highschool |
| 03:07.01 | Torhal | Hah |
| 03:07.05 | Camci | lol |
| 03:07.11 | Arrowmaster | it made it to the loading dock but never the trash |
| 03:07.23 | doom0r | ... |
| 03:07.28 | doom0r | crt's shouldnt' go in the trash anyways |
| 03:07.35 | Camci | lol wtf |
| 03:07.40 | Camci | the audio is all fucked up |
| 03:07.51 | Arrowmaster | a lot of computers made it to the loading dock but not the trash back then |
| 03:08.05 | Xinhuan | when you choose a audio codec, Camci |
| 03:08.16 | Xinhuan | make sure you still encode it at 44 khz (or at least 22 khz) |
| 03:08.22 | Xinhuan | not the crappy 4 or 8 khz |
| 03:08.23 | Camci | not 128? |
| 03:08.30 | Xinhuan | why encode it so high? ;p |
| 03:08.44 | Arrowmaster | khz not kbps |
| 03:08.44 | Camci | duno.. |
| 03:08.49 | Xinhuan | human ear can just *barely* discern above 44 khz |
| 03:09.00 | Primer | khz, not bits |
| 03:09.01 | doom0r | not usually even that high |
| 03:09.10 | Arrowmaster | 48 khz is the highest possible |
| 03:09.16 | doom0r | more like 20 Xinhuan |
| 03:09.25 | doom0r | 44 is just there for stereo split |
| 03:09.28 | Xinhuan | many albums do come at 128 now though |
| 03:09.34 | Xinhuan | "just because they can" |
| 03:09.40 | Arrowmaster | khz? |
| 03:09.42 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 03:09.46 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 03:09.49 | Xinhuan | rapidshare |
| 03:09.51 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:10.06 | Arrowmaster | more like retarded rippers |
| 03:10.16 | doom0r | there's only like 5 studios in the states here that can even record properly at 96khz |
| 03:11.00 | Camci | prison break coming out soon btw? anuyone know? |
| 03:11.09 | Camci | nvm its out |
| 03:11.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1023 RecipeDB (3 files in 1 directory): Fix a LW and Tailoring issue. |
| 03:12.01 | Cryect | 44khz isn't for stereo split but so you can recreate 22khz frequencies due to the nyquist limit |
| 03:12.09 | Camci | fuck this im going wmv |
| 03:12.35 | Camci | duno what the hell i did but my 15 sec long video was 400 mb |
| 03:12.51 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 041.0B8.1 * r1024 : |
| 03:12.52 | Repo | Tagging as Beta 8.1, there were a few errors preventing LW or Tailoring from running. |
| 03:13.50 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r37 Core.lua: onmouseover / onmouseoverargs for rows/cells |
| 03:14.11 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 03:14.18 | Xinhuan | it sounds like you set some setting wrong ;p |
| 03:14.23 | doom0r | raw avi |
| 03:14.27 | Xinhuan | or you created a raw AVI |
| 03:14.34 | Xinhuan | that has no compression |
| 03:14.44 | Xinhuan | Fraps is a codec by the way |
| 03:15.08 | Xinhuan | its really just a uncompressed video though |
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| 03:25.55 | Tentacled | Tinkering with the defunct yet brilliant Advanced Bags Plus... Is there a continuation of Babble-Tradeskill? Other Babbles have been made into LibBabble-*, but not this one... |
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| 03:30.45 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r38 Core.lua: oops... |
| 03:31.01 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r39 Core.lua: fail... |
| 03:31.13 | doom0r | lol... |
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| 03:33.41 | Primer | Anyone know how to make Dominos lock the bar to prevent shift-mousewheel from changing it? |
| 03:34.29 | Primer | ahh, unbind the keybind |
| 03:34.32 | Primer | nm |
| 03:34.55 | doom0r | turn of paging or that i would presume |
| 03:35.05 | doom0r | depending on situation, since it's a default blizz bind |
| 03:36.51 | Primer | yeah, I unbound the keys |
| 03:37.27 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Parnic * r293 modules/Runes.lua: |
| 03:37.28 | Repo | - more fixes to the Runes module's visibility when entering/exiting combat, etc. |
| 03:37.33 | Groktar | can't wait for his stuff to come tomorrow |
| 03:39.29 | Aeyan| | Hell yes, levitate glyph. |
| 03:39.37 | Aeyan| | I will never walk again, out of combat. |
| 03:42.14 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth * r12 core.lua: -- Fix initialize call. |
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| 03:43.55 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03myrroddin 04Alpha * r97 : Tagging as Alpha. |
| 03:44.39 | Zhinjio | I'm unhappy with my unit frames again. *sigh* |
| 03:44.55 | Zhinjio | I swear to god I spend more time playing with my interface than I do playing. |
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| 03:45.41 | doom0r | shows his Time Waster badge to Zhinjio |
| 03:46.09 | KingHoodlum | poops |
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| 03:46.36 | ckknight | ...no pooping |
| 03:46.47 | Zhinjio | no doubt. |
| 03:46.55 | Zhinjio | show me your unit frames! I want ideas. |
| 03:47.00 | Repo | 10broker-currency: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.02.01 beta r12 * r13 : Tagging as v3.00.02.01 beta r12. |
| 03:47.24 | Primer | I was in a level 19 bg and I saw someone using a net |
| 03:47.26 | Primer | what net was that? |
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| 03:48.07 | doom0r | http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=34t6d7c&s=4 |
| 03:48.25 | doom0r | ~fail doom0r |
| 03:48.26 | purl | doom0r: FAIL! |
| 03:48.27 | doom0r | http://i35.tinypic.com/34t6d7c.jpg |
| 03:48.54 | doom0r | screw that 2 bar crap |
| 03:48.56 | doom0r | so ugly |
| 03:49.10 | Zhinjio | nce |
| 03:49.10 | Zhinjio | nice |
| 03:49.28 | doom0r | it's an old duf one that i modified |
| 03:49.37 | doom0r | gotta port it to something else, generally speaking |
| 03:49.49 | doom0r | everyone uses that 2bar style and i can't stand it |
| 03:49.53 | Tentacled | being a massively keyboard player, I shudder at such jumbles of icons only mouseable properly... |
| 03:50.07 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r40 Core.lua: no more late coding for me.... |
| 03:50.18 | doom0r | Tentacled: most aren't needed most of the time |
| 03:50.39 | doom0r | like everything in the top left is just config links |
| 03:50.40 | Aeyan| | Except for my main bar, I show a lot of buttons for cooldown/mana/range purposes only |
| 03:50.48 | Aeyan| | And some rare click buttons, like food and potions |
| 03:51.33 | doom0r | mousing isn't a big deal |
| 03:51.45 | doom0r | hardcore fps player |
| 03:51.56 | doom0r | the problem is the stupid clicks going through though |
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| 03:55.17 | Repo | 10everyquest: 03kandarz * r30 Core.lua: GetQuestData expanded search fix |
| 03:56.45 | doom0r | i wonder if that's for the subzone not registering under the normal zone |
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| 03:58.30 | Zhinjio | *cry* |
| 03:58.35 | Zhinjio | I miss the discord days |
| 03:58.45 | Zhinjio | no unit frames have even come close since |
| 03:58.47 | Zhinjio | none. |
| 03:59.04 | doom0r | http://underworldexodus.com/forum/ |
| 03:59.26 | doom0r | it's literallyt he same site handed over to someone else |
| 04:02.01 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 04:02.21 | Zhinjio | well, it did need a rewrite. Has someone done that or is it still the same? |
| 04:02.25 | Zhinjio | do you know? |
| 04:02.39 | doom0r | the ones that say 3.02 in the left are just temp fixes |
| 04:02.50 | doom0r | the dude in charge is scratch writing dub |
| 04:02.57 | doom0r | which loz never ended up doing |
| 04:03.15 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 04:03.21 | Zhinjio | is an immense project. |
| 04:03.24 | Zhinjio | I don't envy him |
| 04:03.54 | doom0r | i really don't like the everything implemented again for one thing attitude though |
| 04:04.06 | doom0r | he really needs to be open to using solid libraries already made |
| 04:04.35 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 04:04.38 | Zhinjio | of course. |
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| 04:15.00 | Groktar | my computer parts are coming tomorrow! 4870x2, q9300, 4gb ram |
| 04:15.02 | Groktar | happydance |
| 04:15.29 | Torhal | Groktar: Can you dance without kneecaps? |
| 04:15.32 | Torhal | smiles. |
| 04:17.10 | Groktar | hides |
| 04:17.26 | Torhal | Bah. I just want the parts, not the kneecaps. |
| 04:21.17 | Groktar | hehe |
| 04:27.25 | Groktar | dangles the video card in from of Torhal's nose |
| 04:27.31 | Groktar | *in front |
| 04:32.00 | doom0r | woot, sw and if exalted, 3k from darn, 8k from exodar, and damn the gnomes |
| 04:34.53 | Xinhuan | have fun in AV ;p |
| 04:34.58 | RaydenUni | so the amount of gold you can transfer goes down with levell? a lvl 10 can only transfer 300g? for server transfers |
| 04:35.07 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 04:35.09 | RaydenUni | so the question is |
| 04:35.19 | RaydenUni | what could you buy that you could smuggle over? |
| 04:35.35 | Xinhuan | usually expensive stuff like sunwell patterns, sunmotes, epic gems |
| 04:35.38 | doom0r | recipes |
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| 04:36.01 | RaydenUni | primals might be ok |
| 04:36.06 | RaydenUni | ooh yeah sunmotes |
| 04:36.24 | RaydenUni | heh |
| 04:36.36 | RaydenUni | king of exciting to be laundering wow money |
| 04:36.47 | RaydenUni | any idea why they have that rule? |
| 04:37.02 | Xinhuan | limit inflating a server's economy |
| 04:37.03 | doom0r | diablo2 |
| 04:37.05 | Xinhuan | and gold selling |
| 04:37.16 | doom0r | diablo2 is a sufficient answer |
| 04:37.26 | RaydenUni | never played d2 |
| 04:37.32 | RaydenUni | oh gold selling |
| 04:37.47 | doom0r | they failed in legendary proportions at the economy in d2 |
| 04:37.59 | Aens|Superiority | hrm, not really |
| 04:38.04 | Aens|Superiority | besides the duping, the economy was great |
| 04:38.07 | Xinhuan | soj was a ok currency |
| 04:38.29 | doom0r | economy being active != managable and safe |
| 04:38.31 | Aens|Superiority | yeah, and after the duping got insane, high runes and rust storm was good |
| 04:38.33 | Arrowmaster | wasnt soj suppost to be like the rarest item in the game at d2 release? |
| 04:38.41 | Xinhuan | it was |
| 04:38.47 | Xinhuan | until ppl discovered how to gamble for it |
| 04:38.57 | Xinhuan | by having the other 2 unique rings in your inventory |
| 04:39.35 | Aens|Superiority | there were lots of exploits, unintended designs and duping to ruin the economy, but otherwise, the economy was pretty good. |
| 04:40.06 | Aens|Superiority | uniques of variable stats made for a huge variation on the value of items. |
| 04:40.28 | doom0r | the only way the economy thrived was through bots |
| 04:40.35 | Aens|Superiority | high runes being used to make rune word items which themselves had variable stats. botd was fun seeing a low roll on |
| 04:45.45 | doom0r | i agree on that, but the fact that bots needed to get the stuff at a reasonable pace and the lack of a trade system made an overall failure |
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| 04:59.16 | RaydenUni | man |
| 04:59.23 | RaydenUni | setting up custom BT4 states is confusing |
| 04:59.28 | RaydenUni | i forget what all the numbers are already |
| 04:59.40 | RaydenUni | wish i could comment |
| 05:00.03 | RaydenUni | oh bonusbar is stuff like stance huh |
| 05:00.10 | RaydenUni | druid forms |
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| 05:01.02 | RaydenUni | [stealth:1]2; |
| 05:01.11 | RaydenUni | that will set the bar to 2 if a rogue is stealthed right? |
| 05:03.26 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: wtb GetCoinTextureString formating for postal when it pulls money out of the mailbox |
| 05:04.09 | RaydenUni | that worked |
| 05:05.19 | Xinhuan | heh new function? |
| 05:06.56 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: yea input cooper and out comes a formated string with the coin icons embeded :) |
| 05:09.58 | Xinhuan | does blizz actually use that function anywhere |
| 05:12.19 | Yssaril | not that i have found (but i havent updated my frame xml files in a while) |
| 05:14.14 | Yssaril | does it matter if they use it or not? |
| 05:14.27 | doom0r | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCoinIcon |
| 05:14.33 | doom0r | sounds like that |
| 05:14.43 | Xinhuan | well they usually don't include a function if they don't use it |
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| 05:15.05 | doom0r | which is used in mail frame |
| 05:15.53 | Yssaril | idk my search through the latest addons/framexml didnt turn up anything but it works |
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| 05:17.35 | doom0r | http://ace.pastey.net/100610 |
| 05:17.51 | Groktar | what am i looking for? |
| 05:18.40 | doom0r | no one will ever know that |
| 05:19.57 | Ackis | fyi you can query all the T7 sets on live along with rep vendors |
| 05:20.38 | Megalon | who would have thought that |
| 05:21.10 | durcyn | Ackis: well, that certainly explains the two gigabyte patch. |
| 05:21.48 | Groktar | it doesn't surprise me |
| 05:21.56 | Groktar | all the new item textures had to be in 3.0 |
| 05:21.58 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1397/getcointexturestringgt8.jpg <--- GetCoinTextureString in action (i made it green the text normaly comes noncolored :P) |
| 05:22.21 | Groktar | otherwise people in wrath gear would look black to people who had the tbc client |
| 05:24.40 | Xinhuan | Yssaril: i'll think about it when i get around to rewriting Postal in Ace3 |
| 05:24.58 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: woot |
| 05:25.05 | Yssaril | love the mod :) |
| 05:25.22 | Xinhuan | its technically a trivial thing to convert |
| 05:25.31 | Ackis | Xinhuan: Exalted Darkmoon Faire (2200/12000) 88 decks needed (34 saved, 54 needed) |
| 05:25.34 | Xinhuan | only thing is users will lose all their old settings |
| 05:26.00 | Xinhuan | Ackis: 10725/12000, and 15 decks in my bank |
| 05:26.43 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: also would be nice if shift click on the button would ignore the filters and simply pull everything from the mailbox |
| 05:27.14 | Xinhuan | Ackis: http://kinkou.net/xinftp/temp.jpg |
| 05:27.36 | Xinhuan | How i abuse the guild bank |
| 05:27.41 | Repo | 10nobility-console: 03ciscoh * r14 GuildManagementTools (2 files in 1 directory): Added documentation shell docs |
| 05:28.22 | durcyn | oh, so you're one of those reputation whores, eh |
| 05:28.44 | Jaxon | What would be something quick to print the current frame under the mouse to my chat frame? |
| 05:28.50 | Xinhuan | well, it'll only take me 4 more days to get back to booty bay/goblins exalted |
| 05:28.53 | Xinhuan | back from full hated |
| 05:29.01 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: do you grind out the decks or how do you get them? |
| 05:29.07 | Xinhuan | i buy them from the AH |
| 05:29.08 | durcyn | Jaxon: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(GetMouseFocus():GetName()) |
| 05:29.20 | Yssaril | ic |
| 05:29.29 | Jaxon | durcyn: thanks! This GlassUnitFrames are nice and simple, but one of them doesn't want to behave. |
| 05:32.26 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: what unitframes do you use? |
| 05:32.35 | Xinhuan | xperl |
| 05:33.42 | Yssaril | k |
| 05:34.13 | Xinhuan | easy to config/use, LoD options, modularized, framework independant, fast, compatible with major libraries like Sharedmedia, quickhealth, healcomm, etc |
| 05:34.20 | Xinhuan | not as lean as say oUF though |
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| 05:34.50 | linear` | what would u say is a slow unitframe |
| 05:35.14 | Xinhuan | i wouldn't say any particularly unitframe is slow |
| 05:35.23 | Xinhuan | other than blizzard's one |
| 05:35.39 | Xinhuan | -ly |
| 05:36.24 | Xinhuan | if CPU usage is of any indication, i'll say Pitbull is slow, primarily because of Dogtags |
| 05:36.38 | Xinhuan | get rid of that, and it'll be fast |
| 05:38.20 | Xinhuan | because many of the tags require constant onupdates and refreshing to check for |
| 05:39.27 | Zhinjio | I'm tired of this bug in libdogtag |
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| 05:41.14 | Groktar | my raid array has 994MB of 932GB free |
| 05:41.16 | Groktar | :( |
| 05:42.15 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 05:42.27 | Xinhuan | oh Mb |
| 05:42.32 | Groktar | ya |
| 05:42.34 | Groktar | :( |
| 05:43.01 | Xinhuan | why bother raid-ing it |
| 05:43.23 | Xinhuan | disk read times are usually not a concern |
| 05:43.35 | Groktar | because 1tb is more convenient than two 500gb drives |
| 05:45.57 | Xinhuan | you'll find that 2 separate disks are usually better |
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| 05:48.50 | Zhinjio | if I'm using LibDogTag disembedded, why is it still pulling in the copy underneath cowtip? |
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| 05:49.13 | Zhinjio | is that just the 3.0.2 problems? |
| 05:50.36 | Zhinjio | I just installed the most recent tag (r208) of libdogtag standalone. |
| 05:51.23 | Zhinjio | why would that be overidden? |
| 05:52.22 | Zhinjio | I thought libraries that were embedded sort of talked to each other to figure out which one was most current, and that one loaded. |
| 05:52.25 | Zhinjio | (so to speak) |
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| 06:06.08 | Jaxon | Damn it, this author was missing cases for FocusFrame from a bunch of his functions but I can't figure out which one is letting me drag. |
| 06:06.40 | Jaxon | Can you get away with a reloadui after .toc changes? |
| 06:08.14 | Repo | 10proximo: 03Grayhoof * r151 / (5 files in 2 directories): Proximo: Updates for tracking PvP trinket |
| 06:11.07 | Repo | 10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala * r22 / (4 files in 4 directories): |
| 06:11.08 | Repo | add icon support for rest of equipment filters. Prepare for presets so that I can start adapting to work with support additional bag addons. |
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| 06:19.38 | Yssaril | Jaxon: sometimes |
| 06:20.35 | Jaxon | Yssaril: thanks. But I've decided I'm not going to waste time implementing features the author didn't want to himself :\ |
| 06:20.46 | Yssaril | hehe |
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| 06:38.43 | Repo | 10nobility-console: 03ciscoh 04beta * r17 : testing beta |
| 06:38.44 | Nayala | Guessing Dewdrop's support of AceOptionTables is only a subset... :( |
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| 06:43.07 | Xuerian | Don't use options tables for dewdrop -_-... It's kludgy |
| 06:43.17 | Xuerian | <-- knows from experience |
| 06:43.29 | Arrowmaster | dewdrop is ace2 option tables too |
| 06:43.31 | Arrowmaster | not ace3 |
| 06:43.32 | Nayala | Not really using Dewdrop myself... |
| 06:44.19 | Nayala | But since my stuff is a plugin that generates option tables... and base addon that I support uses Dewdrop... have to convert... |
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| 06:48.58 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r145 / (25 files in 2 directories): ArkInventory: |
| 06:48.58 | Repo | - 3.02.02 beta |
| 06:49.25 | mitchnull | yay, lot of Broker plugins on wowi! |
| 06:52.14 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.02 Beta * r146 : Tagging as 3.02.02 Beta. |
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| 07:33.56 | Zyndrome | explodes |
| 07:34.17 | Zyndrome | god damn at people getting 'Death Knight' wrong ... "Death Night" |
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| 07:35.41 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 07:35.56 | Shefki | I keep trying to call them Dark Knights. |
| 07:36.14 | Shefki | Since there was a class in FF called Dark Knights. |
| 07:42.57 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1722 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added AtlasLootFu to the reset procedure |
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| 08:00.57 | Repo | 10libitembonus-2-0: 03jerry * r50 LibItemBonus-2.0/locales/deDE.lua: Updates to deDE, thanks to dr_AllCOM3 |
| 08:05.21 | Repo | 10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala * r24 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 08:05.22 | Repo | Add support for presets to ClosetGnome and ItemRack filters as prep for adding additional adapters. |
| 08:06.12 | doom0r | woot |
| 08:06.15 | doom0r | a simple re-quest |
| 08:07.00 | doom0r | isle of quel quest to attack the boats in the water works |
| 08:15.04 | Repo | 10better-inbox: 03Ammo * r77 BetterInbox.lua: |
| 08:15.05 | Repo | force hide the MinimapMailFrame when we have no more unread items, this should fix the lingering mail indicator when executing a take all mail |
| 08:16.21 | Repo | 10bt_sw: 03sorontur * r4 Locale-enUs.lua: another english tactics bug fixed |
| 08:20.13 | Adys | Shefki: Deaf Knight ! |
| 08:20.25 | Adys | http://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_not |
| 08:20.27 | Adys | hehe |
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| 08:22.05 | Xuerian | wrath of the bitch queen ftw |
| 08:22.49 | Jaxon | Well shit, tag it for deletion, its just a list. |
| 08:23.08 | Adys | i created it at first |
| 08:23.15 | Adys | people just hopped in and added stuff |
| 08:23.18 | Adys | gotta clean it up once in a while |
| 08:23.24 | Shefki | That's funny. |
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| 08:27.27 | doom0r | i hope nothing stupid happens with this rally today |
| 08:28.02 | asmodai | so, patch 3.0.3 today/tomorrow? |
| 08:28.17 | asmodai | Would be odd to see it just before WotLK goes 'live' |
| 08:29.26 | asmodai | With that 'Deaf Knight' the first thing I thought: "Say what, Arthas, can't hear you." |
| 08:30.16 | many | as said earlier |
| 08:30.26 | many | the next wednesday will be plenty of time to release a midpatch |
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| 08:35.27 | Adys | removed 5kb of crap |
| 08:35.29 | Repo | 10wholib: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r63 WhoLib-2.0/WhoLib-2.0.lua: fixed typo in code |
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| 08:43.46 | mitch0 | any wowi admins around? |
| 08:47.05 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): Started work on combo bars. |
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| 08:56.49 | [Ammo] | mitch0: #wowuidev |
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| 09:01.59 | KriLL3 | ... I just killed a elemental shaman in S2 gear from insert <big ganking happy guild o' evil> and he went after me 4+ times, I even let him attack first though I could have avoided that =P |
| 09:02.06 | KriLL3 | I'm a S4 feral drood btw |
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| 09:03.27 | asmodai | heya [Ammo], cladhaire |
| 09:03.30 | KriLL3 | I wouldn't have killed him again since he wasn't any fun, but man some people keep a grudge... |
| 09:04.05 | cladhaire | hi |
| 09:04.19 | KriLL3 | oh hai thar |
| 09:04.41 | asmodai | Reminds me of that Scourge invasion. So we were just farming with some Alliance people, me and a guildie (me being 62 and healing, him being 70). PvE server. |
| 09:04.44 | [Ammo] | hi asmodai |
| 09:04.54 | asmodai | Then some hardcore raid guild from Horde shows up, all PvP abled. |
| 09:05.04 | asmodai | One misclick later, I'm pushing up daisies. |
| 09:05.43 | KriLL3 | :D |
| 09:05.51 | KriLL3 | hint: don't missclick |
| 09:05.55 | asmodai | Yeah. |
| 09:06.01 | asmodai | Wasn't the only one btw. |
| 09:06.07 | KriLL3 | though I guess if you use a lot of aoe/multitarget they can stand around you etc |
| 09:06.10 | asmodai | My guildie was smart enough to not yet raise me. |
| 09:06.20 | asmodai | KriLL3: Good thing I'm a shaman |
| 09:06.26 | KriLL3 | spec? |
| 09:06.45 | KriLL3 | chain lightning is a popular choice even vs single targets it seems |
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| 09:08.39 | KriLL3 | is it just me or are enhancement shamans a bit nerf atm? I can stand toe to toe with em in bearform and raep |
| 09:10.15 | JY` | KriLL3: enh shammies use more magical damage now |
| 09:10.27 | KriLL3 | still doesn't seem that impressive |
| 09:10.57 | KriLL3 | my mangles and mauls hit for 2k+ |
| 09:11.15 | JY` | itemisation changed a lot |
| 09:11.28 | JY` | so it may not be adapted anymore |
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| 09:14.52 | KriLL3 | where is chatter saving logs? |
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| 09:19.12 | Repo | 10repairbroker: 03sonomus 043.0.2 Beta1 * r4 : Tagging as 3.0.2 Beta1. |
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| 09:29.53 | orionshock | anyone know of an easy way to create a tareget & Tot frame for your pet? |
| 09:30.20 | orionshock | one that looks blizzardie? |
| 09:32.52 | asmodai | KriLL3: mmm, my shaman is enhancement |
| 09:33.03 | Tamaroth | http://i35.tinypic.com/250if0o.png hehe |
| 09:33.11 | asmodai | KriLL3: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thunderhorn&n=Dionise |
| 09:33.18 | asmodai | KriLL3: although seems armory lags a bit |
| 09:33.32 | KriLL3 | better than not working at all, hasn't worked for me for days |
| 09:34.14 | KriLL3 | me: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Neptulon&n=Voliand |
| 09:34.19 | KriLL3 | I got S4 chest after downtime |
| 09:34.53 | Repo | 10links: 03jerry * r105 Links.lua: Add achievement icons |
| 09:35.02 | asmodai | funny, my crit is up to 15% now again IIRC |
| 09:37.40 | asmodai | Received my copy of PIL and that WoW programming one yesterday. Digging through it, must say that Lua's quite a nice language as well. |
| 09:37.59 | Repo | 10fubar_wholibfu: 03akazik 06v20alpha * r32 / (3 files in 2 directories): synced .pkgmeta and libs/svn:externals |
| 09:38.00 | Repo | added no-lib-strip to toc |
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| 09:40.30 | asmodai | So in 3 pages of results for the name 'Elf' there's at least 1 Dwarf and 1 Orc, the rest are Bloodelves and Nightelves. |
| 09:40.38 | asmodai | Oh, and a Tauren. |
| 09:41.12 | asmodai | "The Armory is currently experiencing an extremely high level of traffic which may affect its response time." |
| 09:46.44 | asmodai | I wonder why Blizzard skipped a race id, original races occupy 1-8, TBC occupy 10-11. |
| 09:49.18 | Kalroth | 9 is the GM race |
| 09:49.24 | Kalroth | they're a special breed |
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| 09:50.03 | asmodai | So what about class id 6 and 10? |
| 09:51.31 | Kalroth | oldschool GM and newbie GM! |
| 09:51.36 | asmodai | >_< |
| 09:54.26 | Megalon | gm who knows what he talks about |
| 09:54.30 | Megalon | and gm who doesn't |
| 09:54.43 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:54.46 | Megalon | and as you may have noticed, creating new chars with class id 6 does not work anymore |
| 09:54.48 | Megalon | ;/ |
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| 09:55.43 | asmodai | KarlKFI: hey you |
| 09:56.12 | KarlKFI | ? |
| 09:56.29 | asmodai | How's life? :) |
| 09:56.38 | KarlKFI | decent |
| 09:56.55 | asmodai | Good to hear :) |
| 09:57.06 | KarlKFI | mmhmm, it's sleepy time tho |
| 09:57.14 | asmodai | KarlKFI: quick request |
| 09:57.22 | asmodai | KarlKFI: can you commit a TOC bump for better item count? |
| 09:57.47 | KarlKFI | possibly, but why |
| 09:57.53 | asmodai | it still works :D |
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| 09:58.20 | asmodai | and I'd rather not have load outdated addons selected ;) |
| 10:01.13 | Elkano | ~seen Kemayo |
| 10:01.17 | purl | kemayo is currently on #wowuidev (7d 6h 38m 38s) #wowace (7d 6h 38m 38s) #curseforge (7d 6h 38m 38s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3d 13h 55m 16s, last said: 'asmodai: I just want to note that I completely support you fixing InstanceMaps.'. |
| 10:04.13 | EthanCentaurai | how do I make a button react to right-click? button:RegisterForClicks("RightButton")? |
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| 10:12.21 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v1.9.2-release * r334 : Tagging as v1.9.2-release. |
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| 10:28.26 | JensRex | Noes... Tradeskillinfo not available for 3.0 |
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| 10:35.08 | vhaarr | because it's not used any more |
| 10:35.10 | vhaarr | Craft is |
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| 10:42.52 | Repo | 10auratochat: 03Rabbit * r34 AuraToChat.lua: Actually works. |
| 10:50.40 | orionshock | anyone manage to make an IRC bot for wow? |
| 10:50.43 | orionshock | so i can do |
| 10:50.56 | orionshock | ~fail <Insert Guild'ie name here> |
| 10:50.57 | purl | <Insert Guild'ie name here>: FAIL! |
| 10:51.01 | orionshock | ... |
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| 10:53.43 | thul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjXyqcx-mYY <- who is the girl at 1:15? :-P |
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| 10:56.32 | Tamaroth | the ugly one ? |
| 10:56.43 | doom0r | 115? the split screen? |
| 10:56.47 | doom0r | or after taht |
| 10:57.31 | Repo | 10libfilter-1-0: 03Nayala * r25 / (7 files in 5 directories): Dry code combuctor adapter. |
| 11:00.04 | doom0r | meh |
| 11:00.15 | doom0r | thul: fail at questions |
| 11:00.17 | doom0r | anyways |
| 11:00.45 | doom0r | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_We_Can#Guest_appearances |
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| 11:07.53 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r147 / (25 files in 2 directories): ArkInventory: |
| 11:07.54 | Repo | - 3.02.02 |
| 11:08.02 | Xuerian_Alt | stabs nickserv in the eye |
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| 11:09.09 | Xuerian | good friggin lord... |
| 11:09.28 | Xuerian | stabs it again for good measure, then passes out. |
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| 11:14.59 | JensRex | <doom0r> or after taht <-- After that is Scarlett Johansson. |
| 11:15.20 | JensRex | <vhaarr> Craft is <-- I fail at finding Craft. |
| 11:16.26 | vhaarr | JensRex: look at the craftygnome code |
| 11:16.39 | JensRex | Getting back into WoW for the Nth time is the same mess it always is. Nothing is the same any more, and I feel like just playing without addons entirely, because I almost can't be bothered. |
| 11:16.41 | Arrowmaster | i think hes looking for a mod called tradeskillinfo |
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| 11:17.34 | JensRex | Yes I am. |
| 11:17.44 | JensRex | At least Thottbot is still around. |
| 11:18.08 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.02a Beta * r148 : Tagging as 3.02.02a Beta. |
| 11:18.08 | Repo | replacement for weird previous upload |
| 11:18.09 | Arrowmaster | not that anybody uses it |
| 11:19.05 | JensRex | sighs. |
| 11:19.49 | JensRex | rm -rf Interface/Addons |
| 11:19.49 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r9 / (4 files in 2 directories): - added blizz options support |
| 11:19.49 | Repo | - added new db field (lowlevel) and updatedb check |
| 11:20.22 | JensRex | Is there something that will highlight areas on the map I haven't been to, to help me get exploration achievement? |
| 11:20.41 | Zhinjio | JensRex: do you use Mapster? |
| 11:20.47 | JensRex | <JensRex> rm -rf Interface/Addons |
| 11:20.50 | JensRex | I use nothing. |
| 11:21.14 | Zhinjio | Mapster has the "Fog Cloud' option which can overlay areas you have not been to with a colored fog |
| 11:21.19 | Zhinjio | that certainly helps |
| 11:21.27 | Zhinjio | @project mapster |
| 11:21.27 | Repo | Zhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mapster/. Mapster. Game: WoW. Leader: Nevcairiel. Updated: 41 hours ago. Tickets: 3/6 |
| 11:21.30 | JensRex | Excellent. Google time. |
| 11:21.42 | Zhinjio | its on curse, for certain |
| 11:22.02 | JensRex | Coming back to WoW and realizing all the mods you loved are dead, is disheartening. |
| 11:22.40 | JensRex | Auctioneer is now also I huge pile of plugins and dependencies I can hardly make sense of. |
| 11:22.46 | JensRex | s/I/a |
| 11:22.48 | Zhinjio | they morph and change and twist into others. You'd be surprised whast still around |
| 11:23.35 | Zhinjio | aw hell.. |
| 11:23.37 | KriLL3 | JensRex: errm, get the set from the site? |
| 11:23.45 | Zhinjio | beta servers are down |
| 11:23.56 | Zhinjio | have they been down for awhile now? I mean, is beta done? |
| 11:24.02 | KriLL3 | no |
| 11:24.27 | p4aved | beta is over |
| 11:24.44 | p4aved | post on wowinsider linking to the relavent forum post |
| 11:25.02 | KriLL3 | huh? there wasn't any announcement and end of beta stuff |
| 11:25.21 | p4aved | it was quite sudden, but there is a post on the forums somwer |
| 11:25.31 | KriLL3 | wtf |
| 11:25.41 | Zhinjio | I'm gettin server busy on all forums right now as well. |
| 11:25.44 | Zhinjio | damn mainenance |
| 11:25.55 | Zhinjio | s/mainenance/maintenance/ |
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| 11:26.00 | Megalon | there are blueposts |
| 11:26.01 | p4aved | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/11/04/wrath-of-the-lich-king-beta-quietly-ends/ |
| 11:26.12 | Megalon | saying that beta server are taken down today 12:00 |
| 11:26.22 | Megalon | for coldarra that just happened recently |
| 11:26.29 | KriLL3 | sucks |
| 11:26.33 | Megalon | no clue about the us timezones |
| 11:26.37 | KriLL3 | beta end events is the best part of betas |
| 11:26.42 | Megalon | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12197384552-beta-realms-down-at-12am-pst.html |
| 11:26.52 | KriLL3 | what time is 12 am? |
| 11:26.54 | Megalon | 1200 pst, whenever that is :P |
| 11:27.04 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 11:27.06 | Megalon | noon |
| 11:27.09 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 11:27.11 | KriLL3 | 12:09 |
| 11:27.15 | KriLL3 | *12:00 |
| 11:27.23 | KriLL3 | pvp while typing ftw |
| 11:27.26 | Arrowmaster | 12am is midnight |
| 11:27.33 | Arrowmaster | 12pm is noon |
| 11:27.41 | KriLL3 | so confusing |
| 11:27.45 | p4aved | wtb blizz the ability to use GMT and twenty four hour time |
| 11:27.46 | Arrowmaster | not really |
| 11:27.55 | KriLL3 | 24 base clock ftw |
| 11:28.25 | asmodai | 24 hour \o/ |
| 11:28.38 | Arrowmaster | just think of it like this, what time is 1 minute past midnight |
| 11:28.48 | Arrowmaster | 12:01 am |
| 11:28.58 | p4aved | 0001 |
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| 11:29.18 | JensRex | Mapster is just what I was looking for. Thanks for the tip. |
| 11:29.46 | JensRex | Huge red overlays! |
| 11:29.53 | Megalon | for am/pm it is 12:01 am |
| 11:29.59 | Megalon | quite stupic |
| 11:30.05 | Megalon | stupid ffs :c |
| 11:30.22 | Arrowmaster | anything between midnight and noon is am, anything between noon and midnight is pm |
| 11:30.39 | Zhinjio | JensRex: np |
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| 11:30.47 | p4aved | or u use twentyfour hour time and remove any ambiguity |
| 11:30.58 | Zyndrome | and use GMT :< |
| 11:31.01 | Zhinjio | now I need to decide if I want to bother installing the ptr just to test this, or go to bed and test on live tmw |
| 11:31.10 | Arrowmaster | thus 1 minute after midnight is 12:01 am, and since 12:01 am being right after 12:00 pm would just be stupid, 12:01 am is right after 12:00 am |
| 11:31.55 | Zyndrome | http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/ |
| 11:31.55 | Zyndrome | D: |
| 11:32.04 | asmodai | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Meridiem#Confusion_at_noon_and_midnight |
| 11:32.07 | Arrowmaster | dont worry a lot of people that use 12 hour time probably never figure it out anyway |
| 11:33.01 | asmodai | ISO for the win. |
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| 11:35.35 | Arrowmaster | ISO 8601, the only time system where 24:00:01 is a valid time |
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| 11:35.52 | p4aved | leap second? |
| 11:35.54 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:36.15 | Arrowmaster | they need to just get rid of them |
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| 11:45.18 | asmodai | like imperial ;) |
| 11:48.52 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03Whitetooth * r86 TankPoints.lua: |
| 11:48.53 | Repo | - Fixed a bug causing "ADD_CRIT_TAKEN" from talents to be capped at MobCritChance |
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| 12:02.14 | kaiden | bleh, just tons of bad news... went to play hellgate london to find out that flagship studios went bankrupt and even though i had a lifetime account it's screwed and all that extra cash wasted |
| 12:02.24 | kaiden | now i'm being forced to feed my addiction with korean mmo's |
| 12:02.25 | kaiden | :p |
| 12:03.41 | Zyndrome | grindan gaemu |
| 12:05.07 | asmodai | yeah, the servers are now free until end of year |
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| 12:07.55 | kaiden | the question is... why isn't namco stepping up to protect it's users that they have "acquired" |
| 12:08.05 | kaiden | and leaving the servers open and making some cash off it |
| 12:09.57 | asmodai | Namco Bandai is the one folding the servers actually. |
| 12:10.04 | asmodai | IIRC they stated it's a money sink |
| 12:12.39 | asmodai | many: btw |
| 12:12.49 | asmodai | patch 3.0.3 *IS* going live today/tomorrow |
| 12:13.08 | kaiden | patch notes? |
| 12:13.51 | Zhinjio | I just finished copying the patch notes to my guild forums |
| 12:13.56 | asmodai | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 12:14.22 | many | ah. |
| 12:14.24 | many | todays tuesday |
| 12:14.31 | many | i was wonderin' |
| 12:14.41 | many | anyway. still time til release for 3.0.3.1 :) |
| 12:15.13 | asmodai | kaiden: check http://www.mmo-champion.com/ too |
| 12:15.19 | asmodai | seems he added some additional notes |
| 12:17.47 | p4aved | i just got the patch downloader window |
| 12:17.55 | p4aved | seems bibi was right.......again |
| 12:17.56 | asmodai | p4aved: EU or US? |
| 12:18.00 | p4aved | US |
| 12:19.17 | Repo | 10statlogiclib: 03Whitetooth * r198 StatLogic-1.0/StatLogic-1.0.lua: |
| 12:19.18 | Repo | - Hunter: Removed Talent: Master Marksman - No longer increases RAP |
| 12:19.36 | many | # Druid talents points have been refunded. Players will need to visit a class trainer to relearn spells and abilities. |
| 12:19.47 | many | does that mean i get cash back and can pay the talents once more? |
| 12:19.47 | p4aved | yeh |
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| 12:20.05 | p4aved | no it means u haven't spent any talent points |
| 12:20.17 | many | why would i need to visit a class trainer, then |
| 12:20.27 | many | talent points i can spend anywhere in the world |
| 12:20.41 | p4aved | becuase, i think, if spells have changed u might have to train the new version |
| 12:20.49 | p4aved | or some talents may have changed |
| 12:20.53 | many | so if i had them, that money is lost? :) |
| 12:21.00 | asmodai | yes |
| 12:21.09 | many | bl. that sucks |
| 12:21.22 | many | ohwell |
| 12:21.23 | many | # The Swift Flight Form is now available on the trainer at level 71, requiring 300 riding skill, and Flight Form learned. |
| 12:21.28 | many | druids hooray \o/ :D |
| 12:22.07 | sb|work | mh... |
| 12:24.17 | kaiden | wow.. is that another hunter nerf i see to aspect of the viper |
| 12:24.18 | kaiden | :( |
| 12:24.19 | kaiden | so sad |
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| 12:24.54 | sb|work | yay nerf hunter |
| 12:24.56 | sb|work | and pallys |
| 12:24.59 | sb|work | and... well.. pallys! :p |
| 12:25.12 | p4aved | lulz |
| 12:25.17 | p4aved | nerf arcane mages |
| 12:27.38 | kaiden | looks like they are nerf'ing just about everyone in some way |
| 12:27.59 | p4aved | it is called a "class balancing patch" |
| 12:28.09 | many | nerf everyone but druids and iam glad |
| 12:30.33 | asmodai | poor pallies |
| 12:30.53 | p4aved | the ret pally in my guild got a website |
| 12:31.06 | mitch0 | btw, is Glyph of Water Elemental in game yet? I haven't seen it on our realm yet |
| 12:31.44 | Fisker- | assaults |
| 12:31.50 | sb|work | oh yes, nerf balance druids! ;p |
| 12:32.05 | many | bal druids are teh best. |
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| 12:35.19 | Groktar | pounces sb|work |
| 12:35.58 | Groktar | remarks on the tastiness of sb|work's soul |
| 12:37.41 | Fisker- | lulz |
| 12:37.56 | sb|work | morning Fisker- :O |
| 12:38.27 | sb|work | ah, reminds me.. new heroes :p |
| 12:38.29 | Fisker- | ;_; |
| 12:38.43 | Fisker- | I did the trick so you could sometimes get 2 or 3 treat bags |
| 12:38.48 | Fisker- | now i'm suspended >:D |
| 12:39.19 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 12:39.37 | Arrowmaster | we thought about trying the mindvision trick |
| 12:39.47 | Fisker- | What's that about? |
| 12:40.11 | Arrowmaster | the mindvision debuff is one of the few things with a priority set on it |
| 12:40.31 | Arrowmaster | so if enough priests mindvision you it can push other debuffs off |
| 12:40.40 | Groktar | trying to backup a 1tb array is really annoying |
| 12:40.42 | Groktar | :/ |
| 12:40.48 | Fisker- | ah |
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| 12:41.09 | Groktar | blames Iboong |
| 12:43.01 | sb|work | Arrowmaster: enough = 40?? :P |
| 12:43.10 | Arrowmaster | far less |
| 12:43.13 | Arrowmaster | like probably 16 |
| 12:43.15 | sb|work | Fisker-: what did you do? |
| 12:43.17 | Arrowmaster | if not 8 |
| 12:43.21 | sb|work | huh? |
| 12:43.25 | Arrowmaster | its probably more than 8 now |
| 12:43.39 | Arrowmaster | player debuffs is a lot smaller than mob debuffs |
| 12:43.42 | sb|work | oh okay |
| 12:44.13 | Arrowmaster | hell i think it used to be 5 back when we had 16 mob debuff slots |
| 12:44.46 | Arrowmaster | going to bed, almost 8am |
| 12:44.57 | sb|work | whats with this priority thing, how did you find out? |
| 12:45.06 | Fisker- | sb|work someone made an addon to autoaccept treats |
| 12:45.09 | Arrowmaster | its always been there |
| 12:45.12 | sb|work | mh |
| 12:45.15 | Fisker- | If you were quick you could get a couple of bags instead of 1 |
| 12:45.26 | Arrowmaster | the lvl 60 curse of elements has it too |
| 12:45.29 | sb|work | debuff is delayed? |
| 12:45.51 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:45.54 | Fisker- | not anymore though |
| 12:45.59 | Fisker- | It was fixed suddenly |
| 12:46.08 | asmodai | rofl: "Even if you think you hit the button in time, the Internet disagrees with you." |
| 12:46.12 | sb|work | and i dont have the pet *sigh* :p |
| 12:46.27 | Fisker- | I had all of that shit :P |
| 12:46.32 | Fisker- | I just wanted the 20 masks |
| 12:46.48 | Fisker- | But it was fixed a couple of days after |
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| 12:47.29 | Fisker- | 24 hours is pretty harsh for a first time offense :P |
| 12:48.13 | Bruners | you got banned Fisker- ? |
| 12:48.16 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:48.32 | Bruners | for doing what? :P |
| 12:48.49 | Fisker- | Explained above :P |
| 12:49.08 | Fisker- | There was an addon that auto-accepted treats, if you were quick you could get a couple of treat bags instead of just one |
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| 12:50.58 | sb|work | Fisker-: they know that it wont be the last! :p |
| 12:52.03 | Bruners | Fisker-: so you cheated :P |
| 12:52.18 | Bruners | perm ban tbh! |
| 12:52.40 | asmodai | I wonder if the paladin's colour in hexadecimal is a subtle hint: #f58cba |
| 12:52.58 | Zyndrome | hmmm I wonder of some guildmates got temp-ban too, they did that thing with multiple treat bags too :E |
| 12:53.29 | asmodai | Zyndrome: have you seen them recently? ;) |
| 12:53.45 | Zyndrome | but I was a lucky wanker and got both helm and squashling on both my main and alt, on 2 trick or treat in a row per character |
| 12:53.52 | Zyndrome | yes I have |
| 12:54.13 | Bruners | never saw the pet |
| 12:54.18 | Fisker- | I've got the helm and squashling so many times it's not even funny |
| 12:54.19 | Zyndrome | only to disappear as fast as they logged on ... last week until the expansion now, hardly anyone bother to log on :\ |
| 12:54.25 | Bruners | but had the mount drop twice |
| 12:54.30 | Zyndrome | same |
| 12:54.32 | asmodai | Fisker-: I never even once got the squashling :( |
| 12:54.34 | Zyndrome | (Baron) |
| 12:54.38 | asmodai | got the helm 1 time though |
| 12:54.42 | Zyndrome | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/baron-serious-business.jpg |
| 12:55.17 | Fisker- | i'd wrists if i were you Zyndrome |
| 12:55.29 | Zyndrome | yeah I was hoping for the sword :C |
| 12:55.44 | asmodai | wait, it dropped and you already had it? |
| 12:55.51 | asmodai | Jeez |
| 12:55.53 | Zyndrome | yes, 2 runs earlier :P |
| 12:56.00 | asmodai | I think some of my guildies went nuts trying to get it or HH's |
| 12:56.08 | Bruners | is it easy to solo strat? |
| 12:56.17 | p4aved | pretty |
| 12:56.21 | Bruners | with a normal character |
| 12:56.21 | Zyndrome | childsplay |
| 12:56.28 | p4aved | 4pt6 lock quite easily |
| 12:56.33 | Bruners | read not druid/paladin |
| 12:56.40 | p4aved | druid prolly less gear |
| 12:57.45 | Zyndrome | and on the beta I tried soloing it as DK .. too piss easy at 80 :P , especially with blood-spec |
| 12:58.06 | Zyndrome | bet one could go Unholy and clear whole rooms in one pull |
| 12:58.15 | Fisker- | It's kinda frustrating as holy if you aggro those stupid spiders |
| 12:58.18 | p4aved | its just a matter of knowing which mobs heal or stun etc |
| 12:58.41 | Zyndrome | Fisker- : fffffffffffffffffffff ... I always stunlock those bitches, or pre-cast HoF |
| 12:59.01 | Zyndrome | silenced while webbed makes the pally angry |
| 12:59.08 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:59.21 | orionshock | how long are servers down for? |
| 12:59.31 | p4aved | eight hours |
| 12:59.54 | pschriner | Fisker-: still way better than pre 3.0, massively reduced CD of Holy Shock ftw |
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| 13:05.41 | Bruners | any tricks if the minimap is white in wow ? (linux) |
| 13:07.41 | Fisker- | i'm so bored ;_; |
| 13:07.52 | Fisker- | need something to do :E |
| 13:07.56 | sb|work | mh |
| 13:07.59 | sb|work | do some work for me! |
| 13:08.11 | sb|work | watch new heroes |
| 13:08.33 | Bruners | oh shit, new prison break |
| 13:08.56 | Bruners | decent torrent client for linux? |
| 13:09.04 | Fisker- | haven't seen any new heroes sb|work |
| 13:09.11 | SunTsu | Bruners: Depends on what you call decent |
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| 13:09.17 | sb|work | Fisker-: what? |
| 13:09.18 | Bruners | SunTsu: µtorrent |
| 13:09.33 | Fisker- | i.e. episode |
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| 13:09.45 | sb|work | ohnoes |
| 13:09.47 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh HALP |
| 13:09.49 | sb|work | 41. 3- 7 307 27 Oct 08 Eris Quod Sum |
| 13:09.52 | sb|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.56 | sb|work | so another week :o |
| 13:10.03 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: ? |
| 13:10.05 | SunTsu | Bruners: That would be windows, right? Which means I can't possibly know it |
| 13:10.08 | Fisker- | Blizzard b& me in cold blood ;_; |
| 13:10.26 | KriLL3 | does anyone know of a replacement for mr.plow? |
| 13:10.28 | jnwhiteh | ? |
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| 13:10.45 | Fisker- | Abused teh lags to get moar treat bags |
| 13:10.46 | Fisker- | :E |
| 13:10.51 | Bruners | SunTsu: go to utorrent.com and you see what it looks like :P |
| 13:11.07 | jnwhiteh | haha you got banned? |
| 13:11.15 | jnwhiteh | hopefully temporary? |
| 13:11.15 | Fisker- | yarr |
| 13:11.18 | Fisker- | of course |
| 13:11.22 | Fisker- | but liek 24 hours ;_; |
| 13:11.26 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 13:11.27 | Fisker- | for a first offense QQ |
| 13:11.34 | KriLL3 | Fisker-: what did you do? |
| 13:11.42 | jnwhiteh | roll on Vek'nilash and join up with the other 804,000 horde to kill the 100 alliance we have on the server |
| 13:11.48 | KriLL3 | murder kittens? |
| 13:11.48 | Fisker- | Used an addon that autoaccepts treat bags :P |
| 13:12.00 | KriLL3 | treat bags? |
| 13:12.06 | Fisker- | from hallow's end |
| 13:12.08 | KriLL3 | oh |
| 13:12.13 | KriLL3 | how is that bannable? |
| 13:12.24 | p4aved | exploit.......... |
| 13:12.29 | Fisker- | Because it's not intended to get more than 1 bag an hour :3 |
| 13:12.39 | KriLL3 | plenty of addons auto accept loot etc |
| 13:12.50 | KriLL3 | Fisker-: the debuff stops you from doing it more than once |
| 13:12.54 | Fisker- | nah |
| 13:12.58 | Bruners | SunTsu: im just going to use µtorrent with wine |
| 13:12.58 | Fisker- | lag made you be able to get more |
| 13:13.01 | Fisker- | Until they hotfixed it |
| 13:13.02 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 13:13.04 | jnwhiteh | http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=660 |
| 13:13.11 | jnwhiteh | 1 : 11.4 ratio |
| 13:13.28 | jnwhiteh | "Total Alliance: 568". "Total Horde: 6471" |
| 13:13.31 | Fisker- | and you thought we had it bad? :P |
| 13:13.43 | jnwhiteh | no, I thought the lag was unbearable and the people sucked |
| 13:13.49 | jnwhiteh | present company excluded, naturally |
| 13:14.16 | KriLL3 | nice server |
| 13:14.19 | SunTsu | Bruners: Just go to freshmeat an look for a client there. I am totally satisfied which rtorrent which is cli only |
| 13:14.32 | jnwhiteh | KriLL3: if "nice" is having Ironforge to yourself, than I agree :P |
| 13:14.45 | KriLL3 | mine is 1.2 : 1 |
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| 13:16.29 | Wobin | ... |
| 13:16.45 | Wobin | The irony of the Rocky theme being played at a McCain rally? |
| 13:16.53 | Groktar | is about ready to kill these slow hard drives |
| 13:17.58 | Groktar | getting a new motherboard today, so my raid array is gonna go kaput. trying to move everything off onto a combination of laptop hard drives, 6 year old 5400 rpm hard drives, and dvds |
| 13:18.01 | Groktar | this is painfully slow |
| 13:18.05 | Groktar | 1tb |
| 13:18.06 | Groktar | :( |
| 13:18.16 | SunTsu | Wobin: Playing "Eye of the tiger" would even be mor ironic, especially he seems not to be a "Survivor" for very long, now *ducks and runs away" |
| 13:18.48 | Wobin | SunTsu: Nah, it's just... The theme brings up visions of Sly doing the running up the stairs and the doing what? Raising his arms above his head =P |
| 13:19.10 | SunTsu | Wobin: Well, both seem equally difficult for them |
| 13:19.24 | Pneumatus_ | apparently obamas grandmother can vote from the grave |
| 13:19.29 | Pneumatus_ | well, the morgue |
| 13:19.37 | jnwhiteh | What are some good "well known" computer science programs? |
| 13:19.44 | Wobin | "Hello World"? |
| 13:19.47 | KriLL3 | what changes are there in the druid tree? |
| 13:19.50 | Wobin | oh computer science |
| 13:20.01 | Wobin | how do you mean? |
| 13:20.03 | jnwhiteh | KriLL3: earth and moon changed num requierd |
| 13:20.10 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: Oh I meant like academic programs |
| 13:20.11 | KriLL3 | yay? |
| 13:20.13 | Wobin | Pneumatus: Maybe she prevoted |
| 13:20.15 | jnwhiteh | like ETH, Cambridge, etc. |
| 13:20.20 | KriLL3 | why do they need to wipe my feral & resto talents for that? |
| 13:20.21 | Wobin | MAthematica? |
| 13:20.30 | asmodai | Matlab |
| 13:20.30 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: no.. universities |
| 13:20.31 | KriLL3 | I don't have any talents in the balance tree |
| 13:20.34 | jnwhiteh | i hate you. |
| 13:20.39 | Wobin | oh =P |
| 13:20.40 | asmodai | oh |
| 13:20.41 | jnwhiteh | KriLL3: they still refunded for all druids. |
| 13:20.42 | asmodai | DUH |
| 13:20.49 | KriLL3 | jnwhiteh: annoying |
| 13:20.53 | Wobin | jesus, you said 'programs' and I assumed =P |
| 13:20.53 | jnwhiteh | I want to know.. if you wanetd to go to a good school for computer science, what comes to mind |
| 13:21.01 | Pneumatus | MIT |
| 13:21.08 | jnwhiteh | my perspective is limited to US/UK, so I'm asking you guys what else you think |
| 13:21.17 | jnwhiteh | I need to research a few of their curricula |
| 13:21.33 | asmodai | Sorry, I'm from continental Europe, we don't do UK or US. >:P |
| 13:21.41 | jnwhiteh | YES |
| 13:21.44 | jnwhiteh | and that's whY i want you to tell me |
| 13:21.48 | Pneumatus | in the UK, southampton and kent used to have pretty well respected degrees, but that was a few years ago |
| 13:21.51 | jnwhiteh | for fuck's sake, am I speaking sputnik? |
| 13:22.16 | EvilJohn | Da, Comrade |
| 13:22.17 | asmodai | Kamaradski! |
| 13:22.21 | orionshock | ... trying to extract the Art files from wow... it is hanging on WorldStateScoreFrame-TopRight.blp |
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| 13:22.31 | Megalon | Perestoijka!(?) |
| 13:22.32 | jnwhiteh | I can't possibly express exactly how much I hate you ;-) |
| 13:22.32 | Wobin | I like UTS |
| 13:22.34 | orionshock | is there somewhere i can grab a .zip file of the art stuff? |
| 13:22.37 | Jygga | is that old crafty + baby kroko daily = first catch a bug or a feature? |
| 13:22.37 | Wobin | in Sydney =) |
| 13:22.39 | nudave | MIT is what I think of :p |
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| 13:22.54 | asmodai | Megalon: Glasnost! |
| 13:22.56 | Shot | yawns |
| 13:23.07 | asmodai | jnwhiteh: I can ask a German friend of mine, he studies higher math in Germany? |
| 13:23.08 | Pneumatus | in the US at least, MIT is _THE_ place for computer science degrees i believe |
| 13:23.37 | hyperChipmunk | MIT, Berkeley, or Carnegie-Mellon |
| 13:23.40 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: is that from the actual quality of the degree or rumors/culture etc? |
| 13:23.43 | jnwhiteh | Pneumatus: not entirely no. |
| 13:23.46 | jnwhiteh | there are a lot of better programs |
| 13:24.00 | Pneumatus | depends how you define 'better' really |
| 13:24.00 | jnwhiteh | CMU and Berkeley would be rated higher than MIT in a lot of rankings |
| 13:24.05 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 13:24.09 | jnwhiteh | but you're the one speaking in absolutes |
| 13:24.13 | asmodai | I think NTNU in Norway is highly rated. |
| 13:24.19 | jnwhiteh | asmodai: Thanks |
| 13:24.42 | hyperChipmunk | anyone on a US realm hasn't patched yet? I need a version 9056 Wow.exe >8\ |
| 13:24.55 | asmodai | Not sure if Wageningen in the Netherlands offers CS. |
| 13:25.03 | Pneumatus | granted, i only looked at CS degrees for a small period of time before i decided i wanted to do a Computing degree anyway |
| 13:25.12 | asmodai | But Wageningen is doing a lot of decent research. |
| 13:28.44 | SunTsu | jnwhiteh: In germany the first university that comes to mind is the one in Aachen, then the one in Karlsruhe |
| 13:29.04 | jnwhiteh | SunTsu: thanks, I'll take a look at them |
| 13:29.34 | asmodai | Ah yes, Karlsruhe |
| 13:30.15 | asmodai | of course, Chalmers in Sweden |
| 13:30.45 | Wobin | Anyway, for Sydney, UTS is about it for Computer Sciences |
| 13:30.49 | asmodai | As well as KTH in Stockholm |
| 13:30.59 | jnwhiteh | Chalmers is a haskell shop, too similar to Oxford :P |
| 13:31.00 | jnwhiteh | but yeah |
| 13:31.09 | SunTsu | jnwhiteh: in the netherlands the first that comes to my mind is http://www.utwente.nl/en/ |
| 13:31.24 | SunTsu | University of Twente |
| 13:31.28 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 13:31.39 | asmodai | I wonder why I said Wageningen, I meant Twente. |
| 13:31.45 | asmodai | Wageningen is famous for agriculture >< |
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| 13:38.22 | Repo | 10mindreader: 03Wintrow2 * r3 / (8 files in 1 directory): Rename to LibMindReader |
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| 13:40.01 | Pneumatus | heh, i wonder if obama intentially voted at 1337 GMT |
| 13:40.31 | Pneumatus | *intentionally, even |
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| 13:41.30 | asmodai | mmm, nice, Stormstrike is now per shaman on a target |
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| 13:45.49 | Groktar | dances seductively for you |
| 13:47.26 | Lywellyn | Antiarc ping |
| 13:47.35 | Groktar | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/funny-pictures-improved-yarnball-has-a-prize-inside.jpg |
| 13:47.55 | Lywellyn | rofl |
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| 13:52.02 | Lywellyn | Does anyone else use Antiarc's WoW Armory tools on their own site? |
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| 13:53.24 | SunTsu | I wish wow armory would start to update under a week again |
| 13:53.33 | spode | antiarcs armory tools? :o |
| 13:54.18 | asmodai | SunTsu: only weekly updates now? |
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| 13:54.31 | asmodai | Lywellyn: looked at it at one point |
| 13:55.22 | Lywellyn | I was curious about it. I've tried installing per his README, but it's failing. That, and I don't know if the "auto-refresh" he has on his site is automatically set up, or if extra set up is required. |
| 13:56.11 | Mytos | readme for what? |
| 13:56.33 | Lywellyn | if you checkout his repository for the source, it has a README file that has basic installation instructions |
| 13:56.51 | Mytos | for what mod? |
| 13:57.03 | Lywellyn | His Armory Tools, specifically, his signature image generator |
| 13:57.05 | SunTsu | asmodai: I gues sthere still are problems, but time to updates increased drastically since the patch |
| 13:58.06 | SunTsu | Finally updates I did to my WL on wednes day showed up on armory today... |
| 13:58.24 | SunTsu | For the changes to my mage on the same day I still wait |
| 13:59.03 | JY` | DB too stressed by achievements |
| 13:59.11 | JY` | supression of stat achievements |
| 13:59.16 | JY` | > more DB time to armory |
| 13:59.29 | Lywellyn | well thankfully 3.0.3 is out. |
| 14:00.00 | SunTsu | JY`: Sounds reasonable |
| 14:02.05 | Mytos | is anyone else disappointed with the spell that herbalism gives? |
| 14:02.35 | nevcairiel | I am, because i already have 10 other heals :P |
| 14:02.42 | Mytos | exactly! |
| 14:02.50 | Groktar | i was pretty excited about it on my warrior |
| 14:02.59 | Mytos | skinning gets an ap buff, why cant we have a spellpower buff! |
| 14:04.34 | qwesto | Mytos, doesn't skinning get a crit rating buff? |
| 14:04.54 | Mytos | is it crit? |
| 14:05.06 | qwesto | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53666 |
| 14:05.07 | Mytos | i thought it was ap |
| 14:05.24 | Lywellyn | Hey, I was using that herbalism skill to make flowers grow on bone piles in Auchindoun. :p |
| 14:05.45 | asmodai | lol |
| 14:07.20 | SunTsu | Mytos: Yeah, it is crit, because you know where to strike to crit, because of the anatomy knowledge you earn by skinning |
| 14:07.20 | asmodai | wow http://ovablastic.blogspot.com/2008/11/invisible-octopus.html |
| 14:08.19 | SunTsu | And I really love the herbalism skill on my enhancer shaman which I level in Stranglethorn right now |
| 14:09.03 | jnwhiteh | lifeblood is really good |
| 14:09.21 | SunTsu | Keep holding up Naaru's gift and herbalism heal, so no downtimes at all |
| 14:09.28 | Mytos | alright, all you fuckers need to get off irc and go vote now! |
| 14:09.35 | asmodai | Why? |
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| 14:09.45 | SunTsu | Mytos: I would, but as a german they won't let me ;) |
| 14:09.51 | JY` | Mytos: i'm french ! |
| 14:09.52 | Shot | coincidentally, i'm levelling herbalism on my druid in stv right now :) |
| 14:09.53 | asmodai | wishes he could vote. |
| 14:10.07 | asmodai | But the bloody cabinet hasn't fallen yet. |
| 14:10.08 | JY` | if europeans could vote, obama would have 90% voices |
| 14:10.30 | Groktar | i voted! |
| 14:10.35 | Lywellyn | is voting in about four hours with his parents. |
| 14:10.43 | hyperChipmunk | voted already, too |
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| 14:10.47 | Groktar | i mailed my absentee ballot on thur |
| 14:11.08 | SunTsu | Shot: Yeah, herbalism/incription while doing stv is great |
| 14:11.12 | hyperChipmunk | if i hadn't, i wouldn't be on IRC right now; I'd be sleeping >8P |
| 14:11.16 | Mytos | im voting as soon as i stop being lazy, take a shower, and walk two blocks to the polls |
| 14:11.16 | Groktar | voted myself for congressman, since i was voting against all incumbents, and my congressman was running unopposed |
| 14:11.22 | Shot | no no, not "while doing stv", just "in stv" |
| 14:11.33 | asmodai | I found jewelcrafting to be a PITA from 200-225 or so |
| 14:11.39 | Shot | 70 druids don't have much reason to go there :) |
| 14:11.45 | SunTsu | Shot: Ah, I see, I'm questing there, so it totally fits |
| 14:11.48 | sb|work | JY`: mhh yup... |
| 14:11.49 | Shot | hehe |
| 14:11.54 | Mytos | where you from groktar? |
| 14:11.59 | Shot | i figured i should get it levelled past 100 before wotlk :P |
| 14:12.02 | Groktar | california |
| 14:12.08 | Shot | will be easy enough in outland with epic form |
| 14:12.19 | Mytos | we had a congresswoman like that when i lived in ohio |
| 14:12.21 | JY` | that's a funny thing this 90% for obama outside USA |
| 14:12.21 | sb|work | well.. but i still have a bad feeling about this election |
| 14:12.36 | JY` | what americans think of it ? |
| 14:12.50 | sb|work | mh no.. what some stupid americans think of it... |
| 14:12.53 | Mytos | marcy captur, was a totally republican district, she was a democrat, and nobody would run against her because they couldnt even get their own party to vote against her |
| 14:12.58 | hyperChipmunk | we think that's why we don't let Europeans vote |
| 14:13.05 | sb|work | lets say _really stupid_ |
| 14:13.15 | JY` | :) |
| 14:13.45 | JY` | hey in france we elected a president with 86% vote |
| 14:13.50 | JY` | :)) |
| 14:14.01 | Lywellyn | Mytos: That's Toledo's rep, isn't it? |
| 14:14.08 | Mytos | yea she is |
| 14:14.20 | Lywellyn | literally lives an hour from Maumee/Toledo area. |
| 14:14.32 | Mytos | shes awesome, my grandfather was her campaign manager when she got elected, ive known her all my life |
| 14:14.32 | sb|work | and i really think and hope obama is going to win, but i have no idea what happens after that.. |
| 14:14.42 | asmodai | He gets shot or something. |
| 14:14.45 | nudave | I'm not voting today. |
| 14:14.46 | sb|work | yup.. :/ |
| 14:14.54 | Mytos | where at lywellyn? |
| 14:14.56 | sb|work | asmodai: thats my point... *sigh* |
| 14:14.57 | Lywellyn | nudave: the sad thing is, I almost expect that. |
| 14:15.08 | asmodai | Voting is a privilege. |
| 14:15.14 | sb|work | i think a lot of people do.. Lywellyn |
| 14:15.16 | Lywellyn | Mytos: Liberty Center, or you might better know Napoleon. |
| 14:15.26 | nudave | Only reason I'm not voting is because I do not like either candidate. |
| 14:15.33 | Mytos | ive got family there |
| 14:15.35 | asmodai | nudave: there's more candidates. XD |
| 14:15.45 | Lywellyn | Mytos: In LC? |
| 14:15.49 | Mytos | yea |
| 14:15.49 | Groktar | vote for yourself! |
| 14:15.52 | nudave | yes, I know...but then there isn't a point in voting hehe |
| 14:15.56 | Mytos | atleast i think theyre still there |
| 14:15.59 | Wobin | Sure there is |
| 14:16.00 | Groktar | isn't there other stuff on the ballot your care about? |
| 14:16.02 | Mytos | the cole family |
| 14:16.06 | asmodai | the lovely US two party system :( |
| 14:16.08 | Wobin | Vote 1: nudave for president! |
| 14:16.12 | Mytos | theres tons of em |
| 14:16.12 | nudave | hehe :D |
| 14:16.29 | asmodai | Mytos: but aside of Democrat and Republican none will make enough of a dent. |
| 14:16.30 | Lywellyn | sb|work: The sad thing is, it won't be like when Kennedy was shot. People mourned him. Nobody will care if Obama gets shot. |
| 14:16.38 | Wobin | Nudave For President: He Can't Be Worse Than Palin. |
| 14:16.50 | Lywellyn | Mytos: That name sounds familiar, but admittedly, I've stopped paying attention to what happens in LC since I graduated in 2001 |
| 14:16.58 | hyperChipmunk | Wobin: but is he hot? |
| 14:17.04 | Mytos | asmodai: not parties, my family near lywellyn |
| 14:17.06 | Wobin | I dunno |
| 14:17.10 | Wobin | Are you, nudave? |
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| 14:17.20 | nudave | :shrug: I dont think so |
| 14:17.27 | asmodai | Mytos: ow |
| 14:17.29 | Mytos | yea i know how you fell, i lived outside weston and as soon as i hit 18 i moved to philadelphia lol |
| 14:17.42 | Groktar | can't wait for his computer parts |
| 14:18.01 | Wobin | Groktar: going cyborg on us? |
| 14:18.05 | Lywellyn | I live just outside LC (like, two miles) and I'll probably never move from this area. But that doesn't mean I really keep up on current events lol. |
| 14:18.13 | Groktar | just excited |
| 14:18.20 | Groktar | haven't upgraded in over two years now |
| 14:18.36 | asmodai | brain 2.0 and right arm 3.6? |
| 14:18.50 | hyperChipmunk | it's been like 5 since i upgraded >8( |
| 14:18.53 | Groktar | i hope a q9300 and 4870x2 is enough for wow |
| 14:18.54 | Groktar | >.> |
| 14:18.55 | Mytos | i grew up exactly 1 mile outside weston on sand ridge road, i moved from there to philadelphia, talk about a culture shock when i got here lol |
| 14:19.09 | Lywellyn | No doubt lol |
| 14:19.13 | Groktar | i'm thinking i'll be able to fraps now |
| 14:19.16 | Mytos | uck ive had such bad luck with ati cards lately groktar |
| 14:19.23 | Lywellyn | Wobin: I don't think Groktar either gets it, or is letting on that he does. lol |
| 14:19.31 | sb|work | i know this Groktar, but after some days you have to admit that nothing has changed, its no "new" stuff (which is nice to play with e.g. universal remote control :p), its only upgrades ;) |
| 14:19.32 | Lywellyn | NVIDIA ALL THE WAY >< |
| 14:20.07 | Groktar | licks Lywellyn |
| 14:20.11 | Mytos | i used to be an avid ati backer and nvidia basher, but after having a 2600 AND a 4870 go bad on me within two weeks of eachother i cant in good faith back em anymore |
| 14:20.17 | Lywellyn | moans. |
| 14:20.22 | Groktar | :( |
| 14:20.42 | Groktar | my 8500 has been chugging along for years now |
| 14:20.57 | Lywellyn | I used to have an X300 card. Ran Wow.....okay. Then I bought an 8500, and I havne't looked back since. |
| 14:20.58 | Groktar | put it in my mom's computer and she's loving it |
| 14:21.01 | Mytos | i snagged an 8800gtx on sale on newegg, im loving it |
| 14:21.02 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 06wrath-clone * r737 DrDamage.lua: DrDamage: |
| 14:21.03 | Repo | - Some new actionbar support code |
| 14:21.09 | Lywellyn | plus a...I think 20-ish inch widescreen LCD. love it. |
| 14:21.10 | Wobin | has a 8800gtx |
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| 14:21.15 | winkiller | something is fucked here |
| 14:21.19 | winkiller | I'm having only 10 fps |
| 14:21.22 | Groktar | ya, i have a 20" widescreen |
| 14:21.23 | winkiller | with a 8800 GTS |
| 14:21.28 | winkiller | @1280 |
| 14:21.30 | Groktar | i want a 24" to go with it |
| 14:21.32 | Wobin | winkiller: I suspect it's your framerate that's fucked |
| 14:21.42 | Groktar | wtb more screen real estate |
| 14:21.43 | winkiller | quite correct |
| 14:21.46 | Lywellyn | winkiller: either running too many intensive addons, or, you're just running around Shat. |
| 14:21.48 | Mytos | Wobin: lol ya think |
| 14:22.04 | Mytos | im running dual 24inch crts groktar, its sexy |
| 14:22.06 | winkiller | Lywellyn: shatt, raids, AV - sometimes even without addons |
| 14:22.11 | Groktar | oh lord |
| 14:22.14 | winkiller | sometimes it's fine |
| 14:22.19 | winkiller | but it used to be ok 2 months ago |
| 14:22.24 | Lywellyn | Lagrath city. lolz. |
| 14:22.25 | Groktar | is your desk made of reinforced concrete Mytos? |
| 14:22.29 | winkiller | it's reaaally strange |
| 14:22.30 | SunTsu | winkiller: In raids I have 1-9 fps since the patch and turned down all graphics options since then |
| 14:22.39 | Mytos | its a door |
| 14:22.40 | sb|work | <3 new shadows :p |
| 14:22.46 | winkiller | SunTsu: was fucked before the patch. not worse now |
| 14:22.54 | pentium166 | new shadows would be nicer if the landscape cast them |
| 14:22.54 | Groktar | they gotta weigh like 60 lbs each |
| 14:23.02 | sb|work | but they should enhance the shadow view distance |
| 14:23.02 | Mytos | its an exterior hardwood door, with two sawhorses for legs |
| 14:23.10 | pentium166 | Instead you see things like a shadow flying through the air when you run along a cliff |
| 14:23.13 | Groktar | heh |
| 14:23.18 | sb|work | pentium166: mh yep |
| 14:23.20 | Shot | the new shadows make tauren normal flight form look even worse |
| 14:23.21 | Mytos | i use the doorhandle hole for cable routing lol |
| 14:23.24 | Shot | it's fully lit, all the time |
| 14:23.40 | SunTsu | For me it is. Really shouldn's happen on a 8600GTS, Nexuiz with all graphic options turned to ultimate runs on 100+ fps |
| 14:23.55 | pentium166 | nexuiz = quake 3 though |
| 14:23.57 | pentium166 | basically? |
| 14:24.01 | Mytos | nah, theyre from like 1998 with built in kvms they weigh like 80lbs each |
| 14:24.04 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.50 | quiescens | its a magical omnidirectional super light |
| 14:24.50 | Mytos | LOL NADERS ON CNN |
| 14:25.10 | winkiller | I even reinstalled windows and went from striping to mirroring |
| 14:25.12 | winkiller | no help |
| 14:25.15 | Mytos | i would vote for that man if he had a chance of winning |
| 14:25.31 | Mytos | i think nader getting elected would be the greatest thing to happen to this country since fdr |
| 14:25.36 | Lywellyn | Mytos: If you feel that way, why does his chance of winning matter? |
| 14:25.40 | Lywellyn | vote anyway |
| 14:25.41 | pentium166 | There was some command pre-3.0 that changed the amount of ambient lighting on your character, it might still work |
| 14:25.57 | hyperChipmunk | heh, yeah, I started hearing radio ads for Nader starting last week |
| 14:26.11 | Mytos | because i think obama will do alot of help aswell and since hes got a better chance to win ill help him |
| 14:26.14 | SunTsu | pentium166: quake1 engine, but still, having 1 to 9 fps in a raid is really wrong. Was above 30fps before the patch |
| 14:26.15 | hyperChipmunk | thought, "gee, isn't it a bit late to start campaigning?" |
| 14:26.44 | pentium166 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5784524368&sid=1 says it is /console characterAmbient |
| 14:27.34 | sb|work | mh, who is going to be president if something happens to obama? :o |
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| 14:27.42 | Wobin | Biden |
| 14:27.44 | Wobin | no? |
| 14:27.47 | Mytos | what game engine does wow use anyways? |
| 14:27.57 | Shot | i remember something like that pentium166 - but surely it doesn't make sense when the charcter is properly lit in all forms except flight form - shadows on the character etc.. then flight form has no shadows, no shading |
| 14:27.59 | quiescens | its own? |
| 14:28.25 | Mytos | i think the only reason there hasnt been an assasination attempt on bush is that if he died cheney would be in charge |
| 14:28.37 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:28.39 | Lywellyn | sb|work: none. utter chaos. anarchy. Or maybe Biden. |
| 14:28.59 | Wobin | That means there'll be -no- assasination attempts on McCain if he gets in =P |
| 14:29.18 | Lywellyn | Mytos: I think the only reason there hasn't been an assassination attempt on Bush because not only is he not worth the bullet, he's not worth potentially going to jail for. |
| 14:29.26 | pentium166 | Shot: I dunno, might as well try it and see if it does anything though |
| 14:29.29 | pentium166 | If you haven't already |
| 14:29.30 | Mytos | Shot: i think its because regular flight is just a place holder, they didnt intend for people to not get epic since we didnt have to fork out 1k for regular flying they figured itd be easier for us to farm the 5k to get epic |
| 14:29.36 | sb|work | Wobin: dont think so :p |
| 14:29.45 | SunTsu | Wobin: That you will only have to wait a few weeks anyway may add to that |
| 14:29.53 | Shot | no response from the ui pentium166 |
| 14:29.54 | Wobin | SunTsu: So sadly true |
| 14:29.56 | hyperChipmunk | if it were attempted, McCain would gouge the bullet out, chase down the assassin, and beat him to death with his bare hands |
| 14:30.04 | Wobin | . o O ("Mavrick!") |
| 14:30.05 | Shot | Mytos: true enough, epic flying is so nice :) |
| 14:30.13 | Shot | i can forgive them |
| 14:30.20 | Groktar | you forgot the "e" wobin |
| 14:30.23 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:30.27 | Wobin | it's 1:30am |
| 14:30.31 | Wobin | I should be going to bed |
| 14:30.38 | Groktar | no it's not! it's 6:30am! |
| 14:30.38 | Wobin | I have a US release at 10am =( |
| 14:30.40 | hyperChipmunk | do you know where your kids are? |
| 14:30.53 | Fisker- | hyperChipmunk ! |
| 14:31.03 | pentium166 | is your kids learning? |
| 14:31.30 | Lywellyn | NO! it's 9:30 am! |
| 14:31.50 | Azurewrath | did the voting in the US start already? |
| 14:31.54 | Wobin | pentium166: That's the question we must ask ourselves =P |
| 14:31.57 | Lywellyn | speaking of "US release", anyone else have a shop that's doing a midnight release near to them? |
| 14:32.02 | Lywellyn | Azurewrath: Yep |
| 14:32.04 | Azurewrath | oh and... NO! It's 15:31 ;) |
| 14:32.06 | Groktar | ya, gamestop |
| 14:32.16 | Groktar | i went there for tbc |
| 14:32.22 | Wobin | Azurewrath: yeah, that first tiny town did the voting |
| 14:32.30 | Wobin | something like 21 registered voters |
| 14:32.33 | Groktar | and then i came down with the flu later that night |
| 14:32.34 | Lywellyn | Azurewrath: West Coast probably just opened their polls up. |
| 14:32.45 | Wobin | actually 21 actual votes cast or something |
| 14:32.46 | Lywellyn | Wobin: Yeah, some town in NH. 21 voters. Obama 15-6. |
| 14:32.46 | Groktar | and was too sick to even play wow for almost a week |
| 14:32.46 | Mytos | i dont even understand how mccain hasnt thrown palin off his ticket |
| 14:32.47 | sb|work | Azurewrath: yes it is! :p |
| 14:32.47 | Groktar | :( |
| 14:32.56 | Mytos | all the corruption thats been found around her and he hasnt done shit |
| 14:32.57 | pentium166 | I remember walking into Future Shop at like 11am on WoW's release date and just picking up a collector's edition |
| 14:33.00 | Azurewrath | mhm.. ok, so we have to wait a few more hours for first results ;) |
| 14:33.12 | Mytos | hes TOTALLY ready to "fight corruption on wallstreet" with her backing him |
| 14:33.20 | hyperChipmunk | corruption is everywhere |
| 14:33.26 | Wobin | Mytos: Well sometimes you need a thief to catch a thief |
| 14:33.26 | Groktar | Azurewrath: first results will happen in approx 12 hours |
| 14:33.36 | hyperChipmunk | if corruption d/q'ed someone, we'd have no politicians |
| 14:33.42 | Groktar | pretty sure polls close at 9pm most places |
| 14:33.44 | sb|work | meh, some guildie from russia will get his wotlk at 11th nov. |
| 14:33.46 | sb|work | thats just unfair :P |
| 14:34.00 | Wobin | sb|work: but will he be able to play it? =P |
| 14:34.05 | sb|work | Wobin: of course not :p |
| 14:34.07 | hyperChipmunk | who cares? he won't be able to play |
| 14:34.10 | Wobin | so why unfair? =) |
| 14:34.12 | sb|work | but thats not the point ;) |
| 14:34.12 | Lywellyn | Groktar: I've heard most places close 6-7pm local times... |
| 14:34.13 | Shot | play.com generally deliver the day before to me |
| 14:34.16 | Groktar | really? |
| 14:34.17 | hyperChipmunk | we all have wotlk already, more or less |
| 14:34.20 | Shot | so i'm expecting to get it on the 12th |
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| 14:34.27 | Groktar | well, make it 9-10 hours then |
| 14:34.31 | Fisker- | i can't play hyperChipmunk :( |
| 14:34.36 | Fisker- | Not for another ~20 hours |
| 14:34.46 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.50 | Groktar | because it's only 9:30am on the east coast |
| 14:34.56 | sb|work | Fisker-: stop counting every hour.. :/ |
| 14:35.05 | Lywellyn | asmodai: That's usually how it works for something as important as WotLK. |
| 14:35.12 | SunTsu | hyperChipmunk: But he will start with 150% rested if he extends his account beforehand |
| 14:35.18 | Mytos | i live 4 blocks from ebgames, ive had mine reserved for months now |
| 14:35.20 | Lywellyn | oh! on my forum, someone mistyped and called it "Wrath of the Lick King" xD |
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| 14:35.33 | asmodai | Rise of the Witch-King! |
| 14:35.34 | sb|work | mhhm |
| 14:35.35 | Groktar | licks lmeyer |
| 14:35.35 | Lywellyn | Mytos: Have mine reserved at the GameStop in Napoleon. |
| 14:35.47 | Lywellyn | licks Groktar |
| 14:35.55 | sb|work | stop licking already :/ |
| 14:36.11 | Lywellyn | licks sb|work |
| 14:36.15 | Mytos | : licks sb |
| 14:36.16 | Groktar | licks sb|work too |
| 14:36.19 | Lywellyn | not like you weren't asking for that. |
| 14:36.33 | sb|work | *sigh* :o |
| 14:36.50 | sb|work | wtb g/f now :p |
| 14:37.03 | Groktar | i'm wearing drag |
| 14:37.05 | Lywellyn | I'm sure there's a corner near to you... |
| 14:37.05 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian 06wrath-clone * r738 Data/Paladin.lua: DrDamage: |
| 14:37.05 | Groktar | is that close enough? |
| 14:37.05 | Repo | - Some tinkering in the paladin module |
| 14:37.41 | Fisker- | licks everyone |
| 14:37.41 | Fisker- | sb|work i can't :( |
| 14:38.00 | sb|work | just go outside and do something else :p |
| 14:38.03 | Mytos | WTS 1xlywellyn 5g on azshara |
| 14:38.05 | Fisker- | Also technically the ban expires at ~3:00 tonight |
| 14:38.06 | Fisker- | :P |
| 14:38.19 | Fisker- | But that's when maintanence begins |
| 14:38.34 | Lywellyn | I'm worth 5g? awesome. |
| 14:38.38 | Lywellyn | ~lick sb|work |
| 14:38.39 | purl | ACTION licks sb|work *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 14:38.43 | Lywellyn | xD |
| 14:38.48 | Mytos | hey, my alts gotta get his epic flyer somehow |
| 14:39.05 | Lywellyn | Fisker-: Okay, I'll bite. Ban? |
| 14:39.30 | Mytos | he teabagged a gm |
| 14:39.43 | Lywellyn | Sore loser. |
| 14:40.03 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 14:40.22 | Fisker- | Got banned for using that addon that can give you some extra treat bags |
| 14:40.52 | Fisker- | It's gonna suck if they remove anything |
| 14:41.08 | Mytos | cheater |
| 14:41.08 | Lywellyn | There was an addon that did that? huh. |
| 14:41.08 | Fisker- | As i had all but "A mask for all occasions" when i found the addon |
| 14:41.09 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 14:41.09 | Groktar | how many treat bags did you get fisker? |
| 14:41.21 | Fisker- | 2 maybe 3 each time |
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| 14:41.22 | hyperChipmunk | your own fault |
| 14:41.27 | Fisker- | duh |
| 14:41.30 | Lywellyn | Fisker-: You DO know that they took that requirement away for the title achievement? |
| 14:41.32 | Fisker- | but it's an addon!11 |
| 14:41.38 | Fisker- | Lywellyn yeah |
| 14:41.54 | Shot | some sort of delay in applying the "trick or treated" debuff, so an addon that would spam it as quickly as possible? |
| 14:41.59 | Shot | that'd be my guess |
| 14:42.09 | Groktar | could prolly do it in a macro then |
| 14:42.15 | Fisker- | probably |
| 14:42.23 | Shot | it's only a guess though :) |
| 14:42.24 | Lywellyn | so how is that bannable? That's bad coding. lol |
| 14:42.29 | Groktar | isn't it just like /script SelectGossipOption(1) or something? |
| 14:42.33 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:42.37 | ANTRat | i think i tried to make a macro to do it |
| 14:42.38 | Fisker- | And then i just spamclick him |
| 14:42.57 | Mytos | its exploiting |
| 14:43.03 | Groktar | i'm hoping they step up the scourge invasion today |
| 14:43.04 | ANTRat | my realm was too responsive when i did it tho |
| 14:43.22 | Fisker- | Technically Mytos |
| 14:43.32 | Shot | more free scourge epics for my alts please! |
| 14:43.39 | Mytos | fisker needs his characters stripped and all his stuff taken away, how dare he try to get extra useless items thatll disappear in 6 more days!!! |
| 14:43.46 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:43.52 | Groktar | spits on Fisker- |
| 14:44.02 | Fisker- | kisses Groktar and exchanges the spit back |
| 14:44.08 | Lywellyn | kinky |
| 14:44.10 | Groktar | likes it |
| 14:44.15 | Fisker- | Technically they've also said that addons will never cause a ban |
| 14:44.17 | Mytos | thats nasty |
| 14:44.17 | Lywellyn | So my broom finally ran out last night. I am sad. |
| 14:44.19 | Fisker- | Guess i was wrong :D |
| 14:44.28 | Mytos | whered you go to highschool lywellyn |
| 14:44.33 | Lywellyn | LC |
| 14:44.34 | jnwhiteh | Fisker-: not if the addon is designed to violate a core game mechanic |
| 14:44.36 | jnwhiteh | which this was |
| 14:44.40 | Mytos | otsego :-P |
| 14:44.41 | Shot | 3 days left on my broom :( |
| 14:44.41 | jnwhiteh | they always have the last word :P |
| 14:44.49 | Fisker- | i know |
| 14:44.56 | Fisker- | Not going to complain about it |
| 14:45.26 | Fisker- | But it's kinda like the frog exploit |
| 14:45.31 | Fisker- | Where you kissed some troll and got mojo |
| 14:45.32 | Mytos | frog? |
| 14:45.35 | Shot | i wonder if they made an effort to find the addon author |
| 14:45.36 | Mytos | oh |
| 14:46.31 | Fisker- | Though Mojo is significantly more worth than all this candy corn i got |
| 14:47.05 | pentium166 | I have like 7 wands on my shaman to zap people with during the Christmas/New Years events or something :D |
| 14:47.06 | Groktar | my priest got a legitimate mojo |
| 14:47.10 | Groktar | but i gave my priest away |
| 14:47.15 | Mytos | hmmm to watch cnn, or house |
| 14:47.16 | Mytos | house |
| 14:47.20 | Fisker- | reported Groktar |
| 14:47.26 | Groktar | lol |
| 14:47.30 | Lywellyn | Bah! This is horrible! I've managed to reduce the errors using the armory tools code to one. Had to comment out a line, and now it's telling me that one line has an undefined function....the function is a PHP function, damnit >< |
| 14:47.46 | Lywellyn | Mytos: House ftw |
| 14:47.53 | Mytos | what mod is that? |
| 14:48.12 | Lywellyn | who, me? |
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| 14:48.54 | sb|work | mhh, lupus! |
| 14:49.02 | Wobin | pft |
| 14:49.05 | Wobin | it's never lupus |
| 14:49.25 | Mytos | yea you |
| 14:49.42 | Mytos | chase suggest lupus in EVERY episode |
| 14:50.42 | Ithato | bwaaaa? "The level requirements required to train gathering skills have been removed." |
| 14:50.47 | Lywellyn | Mytos: I'm still whining about Antiarc's WoW Armory Tools code. |
| 14:51.03 | Megalon | Ithato: one of the best tradeskill changes |
| 14:51.05 | Mytos | armory tools? whats it do? |
| 14:51.19 | Megalon | lvl1 herbing in northrend won't be that effective anyway ;) |
| 14:51.30 | Ithato | Megalon: not total insanity for that reason, yeah, but still pretty crazy |
| 14:51.39 | hyperChipmunk | Ithato: so if your level 5 alt wants to mine khorium, and somehow you manage to train him up that high, you can |
| 14:51.53 | Megalon | and less of those "why the fuck don't i get skillups FFS!"-moments :D |
| 14:52.09 | Ithato | makes me a tiny bit sad that beta is closed... |
| 14:52.09 | pentium166 | and have someone nuke hellfire from orbit so there are no mobs to aggro him from half the zone away |
| 14:52.17 | Mytos | hmmm |
| 14:52.23 | hyperChipmunk | haha |
| 14:52.29 | Lywellyn | Mytos: it's the code that allows you to create dynaic signature images from parsed armory info |
| 14:52.33 | hyperChipmunk | o look here comes a fel reaver |
| 14:52.39 | Lywellyn | among other things. dynamic* |
| 14:52.46 | asmodai | hyperChipmunk: heh |
| 14:52.52 | Mytos | to pirate quantum of solace because im spiteful theyre making me wait 2 weeks longer than the uk, or to wait patiently and go watch it in the imax which im gonna do no matter what i do today |
| 14:53.07 | Ithato | Lywellyn: ruby + hpricot + rmagick would make for a simple alternative |
| 14:53.10 | Camci | wtf is wrong with paladins, retards |
| 14:53.21 | Tentacled | Mytos: but... but... it has Craig in it :/ |
| 14:53.24 | hyperChipmunk | question asked...question answered |
| 14:53.35 | thul | wait Mytos |
| 14:53.55 | thul | I wonder what kind of char I should play now.. my pala, shaman or rogue |
| 14:54.02 | thul | I think I can rule out the shaman, it just sucks in pvp :-( |
| 14:54.04 | thul | but pala.. or rogue |
| 14:54.16 | sb|work | pally is going to suck tomorrow :p |
| 14:54.19 | Tentacled | resto mage. |
| 14:54.20 | thul | i feel that a good ret pala can out-dps me in pve AND out-pvp me, but I love playing as rogue |
| 14:54.22 | sb|work | so play rogue :p |
| 14:54.27 | Lywellyn | Ithato: Sorry, but I'm nowhere near awake enough to try to figure out actual XML parsing myself. lol |
| 14:54.38 | thul | well, I just hate being bonked :-P |
| 14:54.43 | sb|work | thul: nah, rep pve dps isnt that good |
| 14:54.47 | sb|work | ret even |
| 14:54.52 | Mytos | they nerfed ret, as long as your decent and have smiliar level gear youll outdps them |
| 14:55.03 | Ithato | Lywellyn: there's a ruby-armory lib floating around, think it was called wowr. does it all for you with no external dependencies. |
| 14:55.34 | Tentacled | Ithato: that level req removal is in which patch..? |
| 14:55.45 | Ithato | 3.0.3, today/tmr |
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| 14:57.32 | Ithato | If anyone was curious, running Curse Client linked in the channel topic inside Cedega on linux appears to work fine. |
| 14:57.47 | Ithato | so I would expect it to also work with vanilla WINE |
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| 14:58.50 | asmodai | I wonder if I am alone in finding Joel Spolsky a complete douche at times. |
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| 14:59.19 | hyperChipmunk | newp |
| 14:59.49 | pentium166 | He's a rich complete douche though, if I'm thinking of the right guy |
| 14:59.50 | Mytos | who? |
| 15:00.29 | hyperChipmunk | the joelonsoftware guy |
| 15:01.47 | Fisker- | Thinking about it |
| 15:02.13 | Fisker- | There's technically only one achievement that you could use that "exploit" for |
| 15:02.13 | Fisker- | :P |
| 15:02.44 | hyperChipmunk | hm, i can think of about 5 or 6 |
| 15:03.07 | Fisker- | Actually there are 4 |
| 15:03.11 | Mytos | since you can get sqawshlings and helms out of it, id say all but the running and hte mount |
| 15:03.34 | hyperChipmunk | pumpkin helm+squashling, mask, all masks, hallowed be thy name, it's been a long... |
| 15:03.53 | nevcairiel | hallowed by the name doesnt work, you need to do the quests =P |
| 15:04.13 | hyperChipmunk | it would potentially affect that achievement |
| 15:04.34 | Mytos | i didnt even try to get the achievement, what do i need the title for, ive alreayd got 6 or seven |
| 15:04.50 | hyperChipmunk | the all-holiday meta |
| 15:04.57 | hyperChipmunk | 310% protodrake mount |
| 15:05.05 | nevcairiel | is it really 310? |
| 15:05.07 | hyperChipmunk | yes |
| 15:05.08 | Fisker- | Doesn't really matter anyways |
| 15:05.16 | Fisker- | Cause it won't be done until next year anyways |
| 15:05.17 | Xinhuan | exploit? |
| 15:05.32 | Fisker- | Xinhuan you could use lag to get 2 or 3 treat bags |
| 15:05.43 | hyperChipmunk | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=60024 |
| 15:05.48 | pastamancer | nice, downloading 3.0.3 now and it's only 20MB |
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| 15:05.53 | Fisker- | Everyone who did that has been banned for 24 hours :P |
| 15:05.54 | Mytos | exactly, ill have to go through the entire year to get it, whats waiting another month to do next years hallows end too? |
| 15:05.54 | Xinhuan | oh like the mistletoe kissing one? |
| 15:06.03 | Fisker- | Yeah |
| 15:06.14 | Fisker- | That's why i find it kind of odd :P |
| 15:06.17 | hyperChipmunk | that wasn't the point |
| 15:06.19 | Camci | its not fucking possible how a fucking retard paladin can solo kiss us in 2v2 >.< |
| 15:06.26 | Camci | retarded blizzard |
| 15:06.26 | hyperChipmunk | the point is what achievements are affected |
| 15:06.36 | hyperChipmunk | oh, n/m the other point |
| 15:06.48 | Camci | wtf did they think when they buffed paladins |
| 15:06.57 | hyperChipmunk | well, if you continue that philosophy, you'll never get it |
| 15:07.19 | Fisker- | wat? |
| 15:07.46 | nevcairiel | they should strip you all hallows end achievements for using it :) |
| 15:07.53 | Fisker- | nah |
| 15:08.05 | Fisker- | At best they can only strip 3 achievements |
| 15:08.21 | Fisker- | But it wouldn't really matter |
| 15:08.28 | Fisker- | Cause i will be doing it next year as well |
| 15:08.52 | KriLL3 | I won't get banned to "earn" an achievement =P |
| 15:09.00 | hyperChipmunk | it's people like you that make the game less fun for everyone |
| 15:09.04 | Mytos | i think its retarded that before todays patch a ret pally in merc gear could kill my brutal geared moonkin before his hoj wore off |
| 15:09.11 | Fisker- | How do i make the people less fun for everyone? |
| 15:09.38 | KriLL3 | Mytos: it's not on EU servers yet and I and my buddy are about to do some arena matches... :< |
| 15:09.47 | mitch0 | fisker: by your mere existence :P |
| 15:09.50 | hyperChipmunk | because you force them to err on being overly-restrictive on everything |
| 15:09.50 | Wobin | Mytos: barkskin not help? =( |
| 15:09.54 | Fisker- | yeah of course mitch0 |
| 15:09.56 | KriLL3 | I foresee a lot of retri + retri setups... |
| 15:10.05 | Fisker- | Nah hyperChipmunk |
| 15:10.17 | KriLL3 | always fun killing the retri in blue gear, then having the retri in S2 solo you both |
| 15:10.40 | KriLL3 | joj + hoj + bubble = fun timez! |
| 15:10.43 | hyperChipmunk | and they're spending time dealing with jerks like you instead of creating new fun things |
| 15:10.51 | Fisker- | nope |
| 15:10.59 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 15:11.03 | SunTsu | I think the whole achievement system lacks achievements. Like going one step forward, backwards, to the left, to the right, jumping up, getting down again, once, twice, etc. |
| 15:11.04 | Fisker- | Developers aren't support teams |
| 15:11.10 | KriLL3 | hyperChipmunk: the GMs aren't the content devs fyk |
| 15:11.17 | hyperChipmunk | i didn't say they were |
| 15:11.29 | Fisker- | That they chose, all of the sudden, after ~4 years to punish for known flaws that's existed forever is their choice |
| 15:11.30 | hyperChipmunk | but the devs have to figure out how to block it |
| 15:11.46 | Fisker- | Not really |
| 15:11.56 | pastamancer | ha, druids are going to get swift flight form for free at level 71 |
| 15:12.01 | Fisker- | nice |
| 15:12.08 | hyperChipmunk | and next year we'll end up all having to run to our mail box to trick or treat or something |
| 15:12.11 | Fisker- | Won't require epic flying mount? |
| 15:12.13 | nevcairiel | they should just perma-ban people that used such an exploit more then once |
| 15:12.18 | KriLL3 | pastamancer: why not 70? :( |
| 15:12.24 | pastamancer | oh curses... it will require 300 riding skill |
| 15:12.26 | KriLL3 | Fisker-: you need epic skill |
| 15:12.34 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel: i duped 25 stacks of ore :) |
| 15:12.40 | pastamancer | because at 70 you have to do the quest? |
| 15:12.41 | nevcairiel | bans Xinhuan |
| 15:12.41 | KriLL3 | and we don't have a crop equivalent anymore :( |
| 15:12.42 | SunTsu | pastamancer: all epic mount quests seem to get substituted by spells you get at 71 from a trainer |
| 15:12.48 | Fisker- | hyperChipmunk nah |
| 15:12.59 | KriLL3 | if a drood wants to fly long distance we need to hop on a mount or it will take longer |
| 15:13.03 | Fisker- | They already fixed it, even though they didn't have to, and they could have fixed it another way as well |
| 15:13.06 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: srsly, i have no limit on hate for people that exploit |
| 15:13.21 | Xinhuan | hey now, i did a lot of research, then mailed it in |
| 15:13.24 | Xinhuan | complete with video |
| 15:13.29 | Xinhuan | they fixed in in 24 hours |
| 15:13.33 | Xinhuan | it* |
| 15:13.35 | Fisker- | nice |
| 15:13.39 | nevcairiel | did you throw the ore away? |
| 15:13.47 | Wobin | yeah =( damn that needing the flying skill =P |
| 15:13.49 | Fisker- | I wonder if it's too late to mail in a "treat bag exploit" :P |
| 15:13.50 | mitch0 | nev: :) |
| 15:13.56 | Xinhuan | no, because in order to dupe the ore, you need to prospect it :) |
| 15:14.06 | nevcairiel | did you throw away the results? |
| 15:14.07 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 15:14.10 | Xinhuan | no :) |
| 15:14.20 | nevcairiel | then you're an exploiter |
| 15:14.22 | hyperChipmunk | how they planning on doing northrend flight form? Give them bird-shaped winter coats at 78? |
| 15:14.24 | Xinhuan | i also got 2 friends to try it out, just to verify that its reproducable hehe |
| 15:14.36 | mitch0 | that reminds me, I wanted to cancel a mis-clicked disenchant the other day by closing the "loot" window :( |
| 15:14.41 | Wobin | hyperChipmunk: little woolen socks for their feet |
| 15:14.45 | hyperChipmunk | hehe |
| 15:14.46 | Wobin | and earmuffs |
| 15:15.03 | nevcairiel | that would look so awesome |
| 15:15.07 | renchap | act |
| 15:15.07 | Shot | could just get fatter :) |
| 15:15.09 | hyperChipmunk | it would |
| 15:15.10 | renchap | oops |
| 15:15.24 | KriLL3 | why are MTs in short supply atm? |
| 15:15.29 | Lywellyn | nevcairiel: I wouldn't call that being an exploiter. He reported it, and they didn't take it away from him. Maybe it's payment for doing the work for them? |
| 15:15.38 | Wobin | everyone and their dog are rerolling ret pally =) |
| 15:15.39 | nevcairiel | hah, you wish |
| 15:15.40 | KriLL3 | use the LFG tool and put tank/feral etc in the comment and you get 5 invites in seconds |
| 15:16.06 | Shot | it's true |
| 15:16.21 | Shot | shame my druid is using the free respec to go balance > resto |
| 15:16.39 | KriLL3 | what's the max cost of respec? |
| 15:16.40 | Wobin | we're getting dual specs in wotlk, right? |
| 15:16.42 | mitch0 | 50g |
| 15:16.48 | KriLL3 | 50g is nothing |
| 15:16.48 | Fisker- | In a patch Wobin |
| 15:16.53 | nevcairiel | the 3.0.3 build is the same that was on beta before, right? nothing new? |
| 15:16.54 | Xinhuan | they planned it in 3.1.0 i think |
| 15:16.54 | KriLL3 | Wobin: not right away |
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| 15:17.03 | Wobin | ah, good =) |
| 15:17.04 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: not that we know |
| 15:17.08 | Wobin | Nice to know it's eventual though |
| 15:17.11 | nevcairiel | same build number? |
| 15:17.29 | KriLL3 | no idea, not on EU yet |
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| 15:17.45 | nevcairiel | wonder if anyone tried to use the beta client to connect to live now |
| 15:18.05 | asmodai | *boom* |
| 15:18.08 | Repo | 10ld50_abar: 03shaten * r53 Core.lua: LD50_abar: |
| 15:18.08 | Repo | - added delay of swing for a slam event |
| 15:18.09 | Repo | - CEUE have extra argument fixed |
| 15:18.10 | nevcairiel | hm doh its not the same version |
| 15:18.12 | hyperChipmunk | i tried last time; no worky |
| 15:18.29 | Xinhuan | the beta client/live client doesn't even use the same auth system i think |
| 15:18.40 | Xinhuan | one uses email address, the other uses account names |
| 15:18.51 | hyperChipmunk | it accepts both, though |
| 15:18.53 | Fisker- | It's because they're testing the new auth system |
| 15:18.57 | KriLL3 | in EU both use account |
| 15:18.58 | Xinhuan | if you tried to use email address on the live client to connect to the live servers, you just ends up with "connecting..." |
| 15:19.00 | Xinhuan | and it never connects |
| 15:19.11 | nevcairiel | yeah EU always used account |
| 15:19.16 | Xinhuan | for US that is |
| 15:19.17 | nevcairiel | but 3.0.3 live is newer |
| 15:19.23 | hyperChipmunk | can connect with either on the beta client |
| 15:19.26 | Repo | 10ld50_abar: 03shaten 04beta 3.2 * r54 : Tagging as beta 3.2. |
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| 15:20.06 | nevcairiel | is US up already? |
| 15:20.14 | Xinhuan | no |
| 15:20.21 | nevcairiel | xin test LoD when it does =P |
| 15:20.40 | Xinhuan | you still wouldn't want to revert the lod change until EU patches |
| 15:21.06 | nevcairiel | which is in a few hours |
| 15:21.10 | nevcairiel | downtime starts |
| 15:21.21 | Xinhuan | you can use my test zip :) |
| 15:21.35 | Xinhuan | anyway, 3 more hours till server up i think |
| 15:21.35 | asmodai | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29571 \o/ |
| 15:21.39 | Repo | 10nobility-console: 03ciscoh 04beta0.0.0002 * r23 : Removed document files for space |
| 15:21.39 | nevcairiel | yeah well i dont get 3.0.3 until i'm back from university tomorrow |
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| 15:23.23 | Xinhuan | asmodai: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29571#comments |
| 15:23.24 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 15:23.26 | Xinhuan | all green comments |
| 15:23.53 | asmodai | best part is |
| 15:23.56 | asmodai | there's a sequel :D |
| 15:24.00 | asmodai | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=37467 |
| 15:24.17 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 15:24.19 | Xinhuan | "pickpocketed from the king of Iron forge... made me laugh so hard." |
| 15:24.27 | asmodai | :D |
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| 15:24.36 | Wobin | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=37467 |
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| 15:27.55 | Pneumatus | heh, i have a feeling i'm gonna be making Ackis angry :> |
| 15:28.31 | asmodai | Why so? |
| 15:28.44 | Pneumatus | making lots of tickets about ARL bugs |
| 15:28.52 | Pneumatus | just after he spent all day yesterday clearing out the tickets |
| 15:28.52 | asmodai | \o/ |
| 15:28.57 | asmodai | hahah |
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| 15:29.32 | Pneumatus | 4 so far, lets see what else i can find that doesnt look right |
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| 15:31.17 | Slayman | hai gais |
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| 15:46.36 | AckisWork | if you love me, you will work for me! http://ackis.myminicity.com/ind ahahahahha |
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| 15:49.17 | Pneumatus | if you loved me, youd fix ARL |
| 15:49.24 | AckisWork | what's wrong with it now? |
| 15:49.36 | Pneumatus | 6 new tickets so far |
| 15:49.54 | AckisWork | oh God |
| 15:49.54 | AckisWork | no |
| 15:49.56 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 15:49.57 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 12 hours ago. Tickets: 15/193 |
| 15:49.59 | AckisWork | wtf |
| 15:50.01 | AckisWork | why |
| 15:50.17 | Stanzilla | haha! </nelson> |
| 15:50.21 | Pneumatus | ive got more to add still |
| 15:50.27 | AckisWork | no stop |
| 15:50.28 | Pneumatus | im just separating them into logical tickets |
| 15:50.28 | AckisWork | please |
| 15:50.37 | AckisWork | how do you delete a project? |
| 15:50.38 | AckisWork | :P |
| 15:50.39 | [SW]Dodge | i did! |
| 15:50.40 | [SW]Dodge | :> |
| 15:50.55 | asmodai | heh |
| 15:51.52 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale * r25 Modules/ (3 files in 3 directories): UnderHood: |
| 15:51.53 | Repo | - Fixed bug when disabled/destroyed frames was still clickable |
| 15:51.54 | Repo | - Possible fix for the cases when portrait border was still visible after turning it off |
| 15:52.35 | Repo | 10under-hood: 03Anadale 041.3.10 * r26 : Tagging as 1.3.10. |
| 15:53.18 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: I have some stuff I need to get done here today then I'll look at hell... I mean ARL |
| 15:53.53 | Pneumatus | AckisWork: hopefully i'll have found some more issues by then :> |
| 15:54.04 | AckisWork | :( |
| 15:55.10 | Elkano | Ackis, did you manage to fix the skill levels? |
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| 15:56.29 | Pneumatus | do you not get many tickets from alchemists or something, ackis? |
| 15:57.04 | AckisWork | Elkano: yes they should be fixed |
| 15:57.17 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: I'm an alchy but I know all but 2 recipes |
| 15:58.12 | Stanzilla | haste and destro? |
| 15:58.32 | AckisWork | firepower and major rejuv |
| 15:58.36 | AckisWork | i'm aldor not scryer |
| 15:59.07 | Pneumatus | im missing 3 oldschool transmutes, 3 zandalar recipies and major frost protection |
| 15:59.13 | mitch0 | ackis: change there and back for teh recipes :) (is that possible?) |
| 15:59.36 | Pneumatus | oh, and the alchemists stones i refuse to pay for the recipies knowing ill never make them |
| 15:59.43 | Stanzilla | major frost protection drops from winterspring giants all the time |
| 15:59.46 | AckisWork | mitch0: I'm planning on it, waiting for the feat to be fixed |
| 15:59.56 | Stanzilla | when I farmed wintersaber rep I had 6 recipes or so |
| 16:00.00 | Pneumatus | negatory, Stanzilla |
| 16:00.01 | Pneumatus | that's greater |
| 16:00.05 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 16:00.05 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 16:00.27 | Pneumatus | major drops from nexus prince shaffar |
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| 16:01.05 | Pneumatus | "Obtain" really should be renamed to "Source" |
| 16:01.15 | Pneumatus | sounds like a non-native english speaker came up with that :> |
| 16:01.42 | AckisWork | no I came up with it |
| 16:02.06 | Repo | 10nobility-console: 03ciscoh 04beta0.0.0003 * r25 : Re-added documentation as .pdf files |
| 16:02.16 | Stanzilla | that's what he said, AckisWork |
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| 16:03.03 | Pneumatus | hmm, the ARL tooltips when you hover a recipie have a link to the spell in them? |
| 16:03.28 | Pneumatus | ...but you can never click the link, as the tooltip only hangs around on mouseover |
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| 16:03.53 | AckisWork | Pneumatus: aye noticed that |
| 16:04.33 | AckisWork | at least most of your errors are smaller ones Pneumatus |
| 16:04.33 | Pneumatus | there's some funny font-sizing going on in the tooltips as well which i cant put my finger on yet |
| 16:04.42 | Pneumatus | yeh, they arent anything major really |
| 16:04.56 | AckisWork | it does that I believe so the tooltip doesn't become massivly wide |
| 16:07.54 | Jyggaa | still searching for a capping update/alternative 8/ |
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| 16:09.38 | Repo | 10fubar_restfu: 03phyber 07master * v1.1.1 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits] |
| 16:09.38 | Repo | 26a7924: Remove some commented out lines. |
| 16:09.39 | Repo | 40073e5: Fix not being able to remove max level chars. |
| 16:09.41 | Repo | f51192f: Fix for not showing faction on max level characters. |
| 16:09.45 | Repo | 8ebf1e2: Get rid of unused external LibCrayon-2.0 |
| 16:09.49 | Repo | 10bayis-extended-questlog: 03angelike * r177 options3.0.lua: beql: - |
| 16:09.53 | Repo | 10fubar_restfu: 03phyber 04v1.1.1 * 8fdc2cd /: [new tag, +4 commits] Tagging as v1.1.1 |
| 16:10.13 | AckisWork | cheers at phyber |
| 16:12.15 | charon | bleh, my bot code fails |
| 16:12.40 | AckisWork | we still love you though |
| 16:12.47 | Pneumatus | Jyggaa: capping is maintained on wowinterface now |
| 16:12.57 | charon | it listed the same commits as new twice :( |
| 16:12.58 | Jyggaa | oh noez |
| 16:13.35 | Jygga | teh trojan site?! ^^ |
| 16:13.46 | Pneumatus | no, thats incgamers |
| 16:13.50 | Jygga | thanks ill have a look :) |
| 16:15.36 | Repo | 10ld50_armor: 03shaten * r32 Core.lua: LD50_armor: |
| 16:15.37 | Repo | -added overkill parsing |
| 16:17.11 | Repo | 10ld50_armor: 03shaten 04Release 3.1 * r33 : Tagging as Release 3.1. |
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| 16:29.20 | Repo | 10bayis-extended-questlog: 03angelike * r178 / (9 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 5 lines) |
| 16:29.21 | Repo | beql: - Tagged as 1.0 |
| 16:29.22 | Repo | - add Options to Blizzard interface |
| 16:29.24 | Repo | - Fix load on demand questracker |
| 16:29.28 | Repo | - Fix Titan Panel Plugin |
| 16:34.54 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r2 / (37 files in 7 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 16:34.54 | Repo | Initial Commit of skeleton project |
| 16:35.44 | Odlaw | I wish blizz would let us go through all our quests we've ever done. |
| 16:36.36 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r3 OldVersion/DKPInfo2.lua: EasyDKP: - |
| 16:36.37 | Repo | Fix commit of DKPInfo2.lua |
| 16:36.55 | ckknight | hey, who wants to help test the new wowace codebase? |
| 16:36.56 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 16:37.41 | nevcairiel | link us :p |
| 16:37.47 | Fisker- | codebase? >:3 |
| 16:38.02 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r4 OldVersion/DKPInfo2.lua: EasyDKP: - |
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| 16:38.03 | Repo | Fix commit of DKPInfo2.lua |
| 16:38.05 | Groktar | licks you |
| 16:38.12 | pentium166 | ew! |
| 16:38.12 | Stanzilla | hates you. |
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| 16:38.22 | Groktar | loves Stanzilla |
| 16:38.28 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 16:38.31 | Mytos | well shit |
| 16:38.35 | Groktar | curls up in Stanzilla's lap and goes to sleep |
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| 16:39.04 | Fisker- | attacks |
| 16:39.05 | Mytos | anybody love me enough to buy me a new nostromo, the top right key is busted on mine! |
| 16:39.16 | ckknight | http://beta.wowace.net/ |
| 16:39.26 | ckknight | note that it is running on a separate database |
| 16:39.43 | pastamancer | so what's new/different? |
| 16:39.54 | sztanpet | non-django im guessing |
| 16:40.00 | ckknight | yea, it's non-django |
| 16:40.06 | pastamancer | sqlalchemy? |
| 16:40.07 | ckknight | there's a few admin tweaks |
| 16:40.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 16:40.14 | ckknight | but overall it should act very similar |
| 16:40.29 | pastamancer | but you're still using the django dispatch/controller, right? |
| 16:40.45 | AckisWork | found like a dozen bugs in it last night |
| 16:41.04 | sztanpet | http://beta.wowace.net/projects/cowtip/files/835-r34/ |
| 16:41.04 | sztanpet | aw |
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| 16:42.00 | Mytos | whats the difference between them? |
| 16:42.11 | nevcairiel | backend |
| 16:43.54 | sztanpet | any resolution in sight about the library mismatch bugs? |
| 16:44.06 | Pneumatus | holy crap, you can set your avatar on the beta wowace site now :> |
| 16:44.35 | Mytos | no i mean, whats the difference for you guys |
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| 16:44.54 | Pneumatus | The connection was refused when attempting to contact beta.wowace.net. |
| 16:44.58 | Pneumatus | :< |
| 16:45.01 | Mytos | if the effort of setting up the new backend is more than its gonna save you in performance, why bother? |
| 16:45.25 | ckknight | lots of performance gains, we'll be able to do a lot more with the code, also, the code's a lot cleaner |
| 16:45.44 | Mytos | then awesome! |
| 16:46.22 | Mytos | im still torn between hating and liking the change to the curse updater |
| 16:46.32 | Stanzilla | http://beta.wowace.net/projects/benecast/repositories/mainline/ < 500 server error |
| 16:46.46 | sztanpet | http://beta.wowace.net/home/repository-authorization/ that too |
| 16:47.51 | Pneumatus | 500 on more pages than not, i give up |
| 16:48.18 | ckknight | okay, thanks for the help, people |
| 16:48.23 | Pneumatus | less backend, more curse client :> |
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| 16:49.44 | Mytos | more about what of the curse client? |
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| 16:51.14 | ckknight | Pneumatus: ... |
| 16:51.23 | ckknight | Pneumatus: I hope you realize I have nothing to do with the curse client |
| 16:51.28 | ckknight | my actions don't affect its progress |
| 16:51.30 | Pneumatus | ofc :> |
| 16:51.42 | Mytos | speakin of curse client while were on it |
| 16:51.57 | Mytos | is there a way i can filter out anything not on the ace svn from it? |
| 16:52.02 | ckknight | Stanzilla: revisit http://beta.wowace.net/projects/benecast/repositories/mainline/ |
| 16:52.05 | sztanpet | nop |
| 16:52.09 | ckknight | sztanpet: revisit http://beta.wowace.net/home/repository-authorization/ |
| 16:52.21 | sztanpet | w0rks |
| 16:52.29 | Pneumatus | why would you want to, Mytos? |
| 16:52.31 | Stanzilla | yup, works after a reload (cache) |
| 16:52.47 | nevcairiel | Whats with the curse client right now anyway, havent seen Kolie for some time, and that RC has been hanging in the air for a while, too |
| 16:53.01 | ckknight | nevcairiel: he's working on it. I can see him |
| 16:53.04 | Mytos | because not everything on curse is decent and it would make it easier for me to find mods that id like to try |
| 16:53.07 | ckknight | he just wiped his nose. |
| 16:53.16 | sztanpet | pic plox |
| 16:53.19 | Pneumatus | Kaelten suggested we'd see an update any day now :P |
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| 16:54.06 | cncfanatics | is tinytip still maintained ? |
| 16:54.11 | Groktar | om nom noms Kaelten |
| 16:54.14 | pentium166 | we need a Kolie webcam |
| 16:54.25 | Jaxon | cncfanatics: I use TipTac now. |
| 16:54.26 | sztanpet | cncfanatics i saw an update not too long ago, so im guessing it is |
| 16:54.31 | ckknight | sztanpet: http://i35.tinypic.com/35lxp90.jpg |
| 16:54.37 | ckknight | ^-- teh Kolie |
| 16:54.40 | Mytos | i want a ck webcam |
| 16:54.40 | sztanpet | <3 |
| 16:54.50 | ckknight | lol, Mytos |
| 16:54.52 | ckknight | why? |
| 16:55.02 | Mytos | why not |
| 16:55.32 | ckknight | in any event, please just play around on beta.wowace.net, do what you would do normally (comment, post tickets, other stuff) |
| 16:55.33 | Mytos | i think you squinting at your screen and cursing at code would be comical to watch while i grind to 80 |
| 16:55.35 | ckknight | tell me if you get an error |
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| 16:56.02 | sztanpet | not being able to download alphas is intended btw? |
| 16:56.07 | cncfanatics | I need something lighter then cowtip >.> |
| 16:56.10 | Pneumatus | is remote repo sync new, ckk? |
| 16:56.10 | Mytos | it would make me feel better in knowing that theres someone more pissed at mods not working on release than i am |
| 16:56.14 | sztanpet | oh, that works now too |
| 16:56.20 | ckknight | Pneumatus: two weeks or so |
| 16:56.29 | sztanpet | not the file link tho |
| 16:56.34 | ckknight | it's on the old site. It was for cladhaire mostly |
| 16:56.55 | ckknight | sztanpet: file link? |
| 16:56.59 | Pneumatus | is it possible to sync a git/mercurial repo into an svn? |
| 16:57.00 | sztanpet | http://static.wowace.net/uploads/18/303/107/CowTip-r34.zip |
| 16:57.06 | Pneumatus | or any combination |
| 16:57.16 | ckknight | Pneumatus: why would you ever do that? |
| 16:57.21 | ckknight | :-P |
| 16:57.24 | ckknight | you can use git-svn, though |
| 16:57.28 | ckknight | if you prefer to work that way |
| 16:57.34 | ckknight | sztanpet: oh yea, don't worry about that. |
| 16:57.38 | Pneumatus | i dunno, but it would be fun! |
| 16:57.45 | ckknight | sztanpet: it exists on static.wowace.com |
| 16:57.53 | sztanpet | k |
| 16:58.09 | ckknight | Pneumatus: if you're the author, though, why not just switch to git/hg? |
| 16:58.10 | ckknight | :-P |
| 16:58.53 | Pneumatus | ahh, so clad has clique synced on wowace from the wowi repo? |
| 16:59.56 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r5 / (5 files in 2 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 16:59.57 | Repo | Added default options & locales skeletons |
| 17:00.04 | cladhaire | Pneumatus: Yes |
| 17:00.09 | Mytos | whats a good cooldown counter |
| 17:00.29 | sztanpet | depend what kind you want |
| 17:00.50 | Mytos | something simple liek cooldown count where it just shows a number on my action bar |
| 17:00.50 | ShaneSveller | Mytos: I've used both cooldownbuttons and heatsink, personally. i think i settled on heatsink. |
| 17:00.59 | ShaneSveller | oh, look at OmniCC |
| 17:01.00 | sztanpet | for zeh actionbars omnicc, for everything else cooldown to go |
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| 17:02.21 | cncfanatics | ckknight: is fadeout bugged in cowtip ? |
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| 17:02.35 | ckknight | cncfanatics: check the most recent alpha |
| 17:02.41 | Mytos | catch you guys later, goin to vote |
| 17:02.51 | cncfanatics | ckknight: the stable is bugged ? :o |
| 17:03.05 | ckknight | maybe. |
| 17:03.25 | cncfanatics | then why haven't you pushed a fix ? |
| 17:03.38 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: ping |
| 17:04.05 | cncfanatics | where can I dl alpha's btw ? |
| 17:04.05 | Repo | 10socialist: 03eblume * r45 SocialistForm.xml: Socialist: |
| 17:04.06 | ckknight | cncfanatics: check the most recent alpha. |
| 17:04.06 | Repo | - Text input relocated. |
| 17:04.11 | ckknight | cncfanatics: from wowace |
| 17:04.40 | cncfanatics | not zipped it seems |
| 17:04.44 | cncfanatics | loads up git |
| 17:05.12 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03Zidomo * r98 .pkgmeta: |
| 17:05.12 | Repo | SmartRes: 1 character white-space .pkgmeta change to fix a library being packaged incorrectly |
| 17:05.48 | Shot | Elkano about? |
| 17:06.45 | Antiarc | Pong |
| 17:07.02 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): Removed file/folder |
| 17:09.56 | Elkano | shot, ehat? |
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| 17:10.11 | Lywellyn | Sorry, it didn't tell me you ponged. :p I think I finally figured out my problems with your armory tools. :D Mine works, yours doesn't. ;) |
| 17:10.41 | nevcairiel | Oh right, i was meaning to check if my sig generator still worked |
| 17:10.54 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03Zidomo 04Alpha2 * r99 : Tagging as Alpha2 |
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| 17:12.16 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: dunno if I needed to have your irc client ding you :p but for some reason your sig generator doesn't work. |
| 17:12.50 | Antiarc | I haven't worked on it in well over a year |
| 17:12.57 | Antiarc | It's probably a bit out of date :) |
| 17:13.37 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Well I got your source from your repository, had to make a couple bug fixes to get it to work, but it does. :D One question: does it require any extra setup for the auto-updating, or is that an inherent feature? |
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| 17:14.40 | nevcairiel | it auto-updates? |
| 17:14.47 | nevcairiel | i usually just run an svn update and see what changed =P |
| 17:14.56 | Lywellyn | nevcairiel: no no, the sig images that it generates |
| 17:15.01 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r7 / (3 files in 1 directory): Removed file/folder |
| 17:15.13 | Lywellyn | his site says that the sig images automatically update every 12 hours. |
| 17:15.22 | nevcairiel | oh yeah it does that |
| 17:15.30 | nevcairiel | it checks the timestamp of the cached image |
| 17:16.03 | Lywellyn | oh so whenever a request is made for the image, it checks it, and if it's older than 12 hours, it automatically creates a new one and sends the new one to the requester? |
| 17:16.30 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 17:16.36 | nevcairiel | unless of course your browser caches it, too |
| 17:16.52 | Lywellyn | true. well that's awesome then, thank you very much :D |
| 17:16.58 | Thrae | cncfanatics: I maintain the TinyTip code a safe distance away from any foreign objects...like, LeObjecte. |
| 17:17.21 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: I'm going to probably change the wording around so that it fits more in my site, what kind of crediting do you request/require? |
| 17:17.45 | Antiarc | Just some little note that it's based on my code. Nothing fancy :) |
| 17:18.06 | Lywellyn | Alright awesome. That's easy enough to do. |
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| 17:23.05 | NivFreak | beta is over? |
| 17:23.06 | NivFreak | fail |
| 17:24.56 | cncfanatics | it is ? :o |
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| 17:25.41 | asmodai | 't is |
| 17:25.53 | asmodai | servers went/go offline at 12:00 PST |
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| 17:26.33 | Slayman | some w8 for a new prez others for server-up :D |
| 17:27.06 | cncfanatics | it better be obama |
| 17:27.22 | NivFreak | it will be |
| 17:27.48 | Slayman | Arnold "Get to the Choppa!" Schwarzenegger say: "It better be McCain" |
| 17:27.57 | pentium166 | Anyone know how arena points/rating are being reset on WOTLK release? |
| 17:28.25 | Slayman | afaik once you reach lvl 71 arenapoints will be reset honor won't |
| 17:28.35 | cncfanatics | I don't get why they're inconsistent |
| 17:28.40 | pentium166 | Will your rating stay until you hit 71 too? |
| 17:28.41 | cncfanatics | its not like blizz to listen to QQ that much |
| 17:28.59 | Slayman | pentium166: I think so |
| 17:29.04 | pentium166 | hmm, neat |
| 17:29.14 | pentium166 | Although I probably won't be able to afford anything useful |
| 17:29.29 | pentium166 | Unless I manage to get my feral druid to 1800 which isn't going to happen |
| 17:29.54 | cncfanatics | its not like it won't be replaced soon anyway |
| 17:29.55 | Slayman | 2on2 with feral should be doable with a good partner |
| 17:30.04 | pentium166 | the good partner is the problem |
| 17:30.24 | Slayman | some hardcore disc/holy priest should do the trick |
| 17:30.32 | pentium166 | I don't know any :( |
| 17:30.39 | neenee | <-- |
| 17:30.41 | neenee | =] |
| 17:30.44 | neenee | But I'm not on your server |
| 17:30.45 | Slayman | u need to get out more |
| 17:30.52 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r6 / (21 files in 10 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 17:30.53 | Repo | rearranging options fixed FubarPlugin |
| 17:30.53 | Slayman | ^^ get to know new ppl |
| 17:31.06 | pentium166 | I do, I want to ditch my partner in LK |
| 17:31.10 | cncfanatics | loves murlocks that don't drop murlock heads |
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| 17:31.48 | pentium166 | I'm hoping to meet people while leveling at least |
| 17:32.02 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 17:32.16 | asmodai | AckisWork: I never saw soooo many level 1 skills in my skill list now |
| 17:32.16 | Slayman | I'm hoping to meet crazy ppl while grabbing my nightly copy with some of them |
| 17:32.33 | pentium166 | cncfanatics: maybe you shouldn't mutilate them so badly and they'd still have heads |
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| 17:32.35 | ShaneSveller | anyone know how big the US patch wound up being? |
| 17:33.03 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 17:33.07 | cncfanatics | pentium166: what server you on ? |
| 17:33.10 | chexsum | 20m afaik |
| 17:33.14 | pentium166 | whisperwind US |
| 17:33.18 | cncfanatics | meh US |
| 17:33.20 | cncfanatics | stop failing |
| 17:33.32 | pentium166 | as much as i would like it to be, canada is not in europe |
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| 17:33.57 | cncfanatics | ah, ok, not that much fail then |
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| 17:34.32 | Slayman | canada is the closest thing a northamerican can get to be hooman ^;D |
| 17:34.50 | pastamancer | canadia is america's hat! |
| 17:34.58 | AckisWork | asmodai: profession? |
| 17:35.01 | Slayman | and brainz apparently |
| 17:35.01 | pentium166 | america is canada's asshat |
| 17:35.25 | Xuerian | Canada is our retarded uncle. |
| 17:35.57 | pentium166 | don't forget socialist |
| 17:36.19 | sztanpet | is that bad? |
| 17:36.25 | pentium166 | if you're american it is |
| 17:36.32 | pentium166 | apparently |
| 17:36.33 | cncfanatics | america is pure fail, simple :p |
| 17:36.36 | sztanpet | oh yea i forgot |
| 17:37.10 | *** join/#wowace Mytos (n=nate@c-76-99-111-229.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 17:37.54 | Slayman | america's health system is fail, their banks just had an epic fail well and your president as of now is 2nd generation fail |
| 17:38.13 | Mytos | agreed |
| 17:38.58 | Xuerian | At least we have chicken. |
| 17:39.00 | Aeyan | Yawn |
| 17:39.12 | cncfanatics | america in a nutshell; health: fail, social system: fail, fastfood: fail, banks: fail |
| 17:39.16 | Mytos | lywellyn, you gotta move to pennsylvania, voting is so much easier here than in ohio |
| 17:39.32 | Lywellyn|AFK | Mytos: How so? |
| 17:39.39 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 17:39.39 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 9/194 |
| 17:39.49 | Mytos | and we'll remember how fail we are next time all you guys are being conquered by facists and not help you for the third time |
| 17:40.07 | Mytos | i pushed six buttons and walked out lol |
| 17:40.29 | Mytos | instead of filling out three pages of bubbles |
| 17:40.31 | Lywellyn|AFK | All I have to do is go in, show my ID, sign a paper, push some buttons, confirm my votes, and walk out |
| 17:40.36 | Antiarc | http://www.flickr.com/photos/32094373@N06/3001326462/in/photostream/ <-- awesome costume |
| 17:40.37 | Lywellyn|AFK | we have machines now too, ya know. |
| 17:40.47 | Mytos | well ya didnt when i lived there |
| 17:40.52 | Lywellyn|AFK | hehe |
| 17:40.57 | asmodai | AckisWork: jewelcrafting |
| 17:41.15 | Lywellyn|AFK | is really AFK now. He's going to go vote, actually! |
| 17:42.50 | cncfanatics | Lywellyn|AFK: you better vote for obama ^^ |
| 17:46.06 | asmodai | AckisWork: e.g. Enduring Talasite |
| 17:47.05 | Fisker- | cncfanatics omg i'm not gonna vote on a black guy!1 |
| 17:47.35 | *** join/#wowace Movix (n=mattes@82.242.144.196) |
| 17:47.53 | Slayman | operation human shield will be reinstated effecitve immediately |
| 17:47.57 | cncfanatics | ~lart Fisker- |
| 17:47.57 | purl | burns Fisker- to a crisp with a laser |
| 17:48.15 | cncfanatics | purl, I love you |
| 17:48.16 | purl | You love you? |
| 17:48.39 | cncfanatics | purl, I love purl |
| 17:48.39 | purl | You love purl? |
| 17:48.54 | pentium166 | purl, I am wholly enamoured with you |
| 17:48.55 | purl | it is my pleasure to meet you, wholly enamoured with you |
| 17:48.58 | Slayman | purl, good bot |
| 17:48.58 | purl | Slayman: :) |
| 17:49.24 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 17:49.30 | cncfanatics | purl, have a cookie |
| 17:49.31 | purl | Ta. *Munch* |
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| 17:52.05 | Mytos | you guys having fun? |
| 17:52.24 | cncfanatics | ofc we are |
| 17:53.19 | cncfanatics | omg |
| 17:53.22 | cncfanatics | my paladin is level 10 |
| 17:53.23 | cncfanatics | I win |
| 17:53.31 | pentium166 | omg |
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| 17:55.46 | Mytos | how does you having a lvl10 pally win you anything? |
| 17:55.58 | Repo | 10baldrick: 03LordFarlander * r90 Baldrick.lua: Baldrick: |
| 17:55.58 | Repo | - More fixes for items not being suggested when bag contents change |
| 17:56.13 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r131 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet: |
| 17:56.14 | Repo | - Fixes for quest item support |
| 17:56.18 | AckisWork | @project arl |
| 17:56.19 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Author: Zhinjio. Updated: 14 hours ago. Tickets: 4/194 |
| 17:56.24 | AckisWork | 4 tickets now... |
| 17:56.58 | cncfanatics | Mytos: it gives me an ACHIEVMANT |
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| 17:57.51 | Mytos | yea, i hate those btw |
| 17:57.58 | Mytos | most of them are retarded |
| 17:58.09 | Mytos | i mean really, who cares if ive been everywhere in the game |
| 17:58.27 | Slayman | apparently blizzard does |
| 17:58.43 | AckisWork | asmodai: Found the issue, dataminer issue have to get kagaro to fix it for me if possible |
| 17:58.53 | Mytos | thats ok, im better than all of you because ive got the midnight mount |
| 17:59.14 | pentium166 | blizzard doesn't really care if you've been everywhere, they just care that you spend the time to go there |
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| 18:00.48 | asmodai | AckisWork: cool |
| 18:01.00 | asmodai | AckisWork: every time I want to sit down to do something on it, you have already fixed it |
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| 18:03.00 | Mytos | who wants to write a mod for me? |
| 18:03.15 | NeoTron | so last night I refactored MagicRunes to be able to do various rune bar types (combo bar showing one rune bar for all blood runes etc)... only to find out after implementing it that it really doesn't work. |
| 18:03.41 | Mytos | hows that? |
| 18:04.01 | NeoTron | it just doesn't help really |
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| 18:04.22 | NeoTron | you don't just want to see if you have one or more runes available (or when one will be available) |
| 18:04.30 | NeoTron | you also want to often see when the next rune will be available |
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| 18:05.35 | Fisker- | Paladin: Judgement of Wisdom: Fixed a bug allowing one copy on target per paladin. |
| 18:05.35 | Fisker- | Paladin: Judgement of Light: Fixed a bug allowing one copy on target per paladin. |
| 18:05.37 | NeoTron | I have an idea how to display some sort of aggregated information differently, but not using timer bars. Like show that you can use 1 + 2 blood abilities (1 blood, 2 death) etc |
| 18:05.43 | Fisker- | so you're only allowed to have one per paladin? |
| 18:05.45 | Fisker- | sad panda |
| 18:05.45 | Fisker- | ;_; |
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| 18:07.26 | cncfanatics | HAI THAR |
| 18:08.28 | NeoTron | gah beta is down |
| 18:08.33 | NeoTron | so much for hackign my addon now |
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| 18:08.56 | Gnarfoz | hack on live, hurrr |
| 18:08.57 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 18:09.14 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: judgement twisting was funneh for a moment |
| 18:09.35 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: because I can effectively work on a rune addon on live! |
| 18:09.54 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: pff who needs those, base UI should be enough for anyone. :p |
| 18:10.01 | chexsum | make fake events |
| 18:10.56 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: hai tha |
| 18:11.01 | cncfanatics | s/tha/thar/ |
| 18:13.09 | Fisker- | hai cncfanatics |
| 18:14.28 | cncfanatics | hai Fisker- |
| 18:14.42 | Shot | why am I getting errors from the default ChatFrame.lua, calling strsub with no arguments? |
| 18:14.56 | Cheads | hmm my local store opens (wotlk launch) at.... Opening Time: 0.250011574074074 |
| 18:15.35 | Slayman | Shot: All Arguments have been exchanged in the presidential campaign, so there are no more left |
| 18:16.06 | NeoTron | chexsum: yeah I plan to do that. just a bit annoying :P |
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| 18:16.19 | Repo | 10buffalo: 03tomsommer 06saroz-clone * r214 Buffalo.lua: Poke |
| 18:16.25 | neenee | So is there a new president yet? |
| 18:16.33 | neenee | Or when is that announced? |
| 18:16.39 | cncfanatics | neenee: I think its announced tomorrow |
| 18:16.40 | NeoTron | the election is today |
| 18:16.41 | neenee | ah. |
| 18:16.52 | neenee | I wonder what really will change in the US. |
| 18:16.56 | Slayman | what time neotron? |
| 18:17.17 | Cheads | it will take them a few weeks to count the votes several times coming up with different results every time =9 |
| 18:17.29 | NeoTron | Slayman: like now? Until it closes - not sure when that is but goes on quite a while due to Alaska and Hawaii... if anyone care about them |
| 18:17.40 | NeoTron | is a Swede living in the US. ;-) |
| 18:17.42 | NeoTron | I don't vote. heh |
| 18:18.11 | Mytos | usually by about 2am eastern |
| 18:18.12 | neenee | I'm just curious what the actual effects will be a different president |
| 18:18.13 | Slayman | caused by using untrustworthy machinery and non-complyant (complyant?) state vote-lawa |
| 18:18.20 | neenee | *compliant |
| 18:18.32 | neenee | *of a different |
| 18:18.33 | NeoTron | neenee: guess we'll have to wait 4 years and see |
| 18:19.03 | NeoTron | for one, regardless of who wins the US President won't be likened to a monkey anymore |
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| 18:19.16 | neenee | I'm sure they'll think of something else. |
| 18:19.22 | NeoTron | likely |
| 18:19.24 | Slayman | saxony in germany (comparable to state like ohio or something) does not use machinery, that makes me proud as I am saxonian! |
| 18:19.44 | NeoTron | Sweden uses old fashioned paper voting/counting |
| 18:19.56 | Slayman | NeoTron: Which is a GOOD thing! |
| 18:20.00 | NeoTron | yes |
| 18:20.20 | Mytos | not neccisarily |
| 18:20.22 | NeoTron | although I'm all for technology, voting machines just aren't trustworthy (yet?) |
| 18:20.29 | Mytos | florida used paper, look at that shit |
| 18:20.33 | NeoTron | Mytos: it's good considering the lack of reliable alternatives |
| 18:20.41 | Slayman | until they are open source they are not trustworthy, simple as that |
| 18:20.41 | neenee | Voting machines are programmed and/or operated by people, so people are still involved. |
| 18:20.42 | cncfanatics | why aren't they trustworthy ? |
| 18:21.13 | Shot | because ultimately 1000s of votes are counted by devices controlled by a few people? |
| 18:21.14 | NeoTron | and Florida used electronic voting machines... |
| 18:21.17 | NeoTron | thus the issues there |
| 18:21.18 | Slayman | cncfanatics: cause the one building it says: they are trustworthy and noone can disprove them |
| 18:21.23 | Cheads | they just had test where the machines game different results each and everytime |
| 18:21.30 | Cheads | game=gave |
| 18:21.44 | cncfanatics | how the fuck can a decently coded machine give different results |
| 18:21.52 | pentium166 | because they aren't |
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| 18:22.09 | Repo | Add AceOO-2.0 required dependency |
| 18:22.12 | NeoTron | cncfanatics: key word "decently coded" |
| 18:22.18 | Slayman | cncfanatics: If NOONE except the ones relying on selling them knows exactly how they are doing what they cannot be trustworthy! |
| 18:22.20 | Nayala | even open source won't fix all the problems... design of the hardware is a part of the problem. |
| 18:22.22 | NeoTron | they aren't |
| 18:22.22 | Repo | 10fu-bar_iopfu: 03Pericles * r34 .pkgmeta: FuBar_IOPFu:- |
| 18:22.22 | Repo | Add AceOO-2.0 required dependency |
| 18:22.32 | NeoTron | they are highly insecure and outright buggy and with insufficient or broken papertrail |
| 18:22.47 | cncfanatics | sigh, even I could prolly build a decent machine for voting |
| 18:23.14 | neenee | Me too. It's called a box. |
| 18:23.18 | neenee | With a slit in the top. |
| 18:23.26 | Slayman | and paper and a pen aside |
| 18:23.32 | neenee | Yup. |
| 18:23.34 | Shot | the pen being on a chain |
| 18:23.40 | Shot | you never know |
| 18:24.08 | cncfanatics | read: that doesn't need manual counting |
| 18:24.17 | Fisker- | cncfanatics unban me :( |
| 18:24.35 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: ban, where ? |
| 18:24.50 | Fisker- | wow :( |
| 18:24.55 | cncfanatics | rofl |
| 18:24.56 | cncfanatics | you got banned ? |
| 18:24.59 | cncfanatics | why ? |
| 18:25.37 | Fisker- | "exploiting" |
| 18:25.45 | cncfanatics | how so ? |
| 18:25.47 | cncfanatics | details please ;à) |
| 18:25.48 | Fisker- | i.e. getting more than one bag (2 perhaps 3) each trick or treat |
| 18:25.48 | Fisker- | :P |
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| 18:26.02 | Mytos | cnc can unban people? |
| 18:26.22 | *** join/#wowace chiper (n=chiper@69.43.204.8) |
| 18:26.24 | cncfanatics | no he can't |
| 18:26.24 | Mytos | awesome! ban fisker again once he comes off his ban! |
| 18:26.28 | Jygga | that 1slot imba thingies? |
| 18:26.29 | AckisWork | laughs at Fisker- |
| 18:26.32 | cncfanatics | btw |
| 18:26.33 | AckisWork | why so banned Fisker- ? |
| 18:26.36 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail Fisker- |
| 18:26.37 | purl | Fisker-, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Fisker-, you are that epic failure. |
| 18:26.45 | Fisker- | >:3 |
| 18:26.57 | Fisker- | cncfanatics needs to hack a bit |
| 18:26.57 | Chompers | Fisker-, are you still trolling people? |
| 18:26.58 | Fisker- | then he can |
| 18:27.02 | Megalon | lets vote for ban extension on fisker! |
| 18:27.07 | Fisker- | when am i not Chompers ? |
| 18:27.09 | Chompers | you're a machine Fisker- |
| 18:27.13 | cncfanatics | how long is your ban Fisker- ? |
| 18:27.13 | Chompers | a total machine |
| 18:27.17 | Repo | 10fu-bar_iopfu: 03Pericles * r35 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_IOPFu:- |
| 18:27.17 | Repo | Add missing AceAddon-2.0 |
| 18:27.20 | Fisker- | only 24 hours cncfanatics |
| 18:27.23 | cncfanatics | damn |
| 18:27.33 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: how did that work? |
| 18:27.42 | Fisker- | how did what? |
| 18:27.50 | Stanzilla | the 2-3 threat bag "exploit" |
| 18:28.08 | Fisker- | Just get something to automatically accept the "Trick or treat" option |
| 18:28.10 | Fisker- | like an addon |
| 18:28.16 | Fisker- | Then just spamclick the innkeeper |
| 18:28.25 | Fisker- | And it would cast 2 times, 3 if you were lucky, before you got the debuff |
| 18:28.26 | Chompers | Fisker-, i nearly killed twins :D |
| 18:28.28 | NeoTron | race condition. nice. |
| 18:28.38 | Chompers | it was pretty cool to see that far into sunwell |
| 18:28.42 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:28.45 | Fisker- | We got to Felmyst |
| 18:28.47 | Slayman | Fisker-: PermaBan? |
| 18:28.52 | Fisker- | nah just 24 hours |
| 18:28.55 | Chompers | felmyst was cool |
| 18:29.01 | Slayman | Fisker-: lucky you |
| 18:29.05 | NeoTron | so essentially well worth it! err except the mark on your account |
| 18:29.07 | Chompers | poor bastard who had to call out the breath stuff |
| 18:29.12 | Fisker- | NeoTron nah |
| 18:29.25 | Fisker- | this account is hereby suspended for 24 hours and may be subject to in-game adjustment without possibility of reimbursement. |
| 18:29.40 | cncfanatics | basicly; |
| 18:29.46 | cncfanatics | blizzard whispers to Fisker-: fuck you |
| 18:29.49 | Fisker- | From the rumors it's said they've removed the mask, custome, toothpick and helm/pet achievements |
| 18:29.52 | Fisker- | as well as the items of course |
| 18:30.02 | Jygga | just the masks ... |
| 18:30.54 | NeoTron | Chompers: there's one location which is close to impossible. 2nd breath, standing by the fire... whether or not she'll hit the fire or the middle |
| 18:31.05 | Groktar | Fisker-: are you the keymaster? |
| 18:31.11 | NivFreak | what's the druid talent that gives them crit immunity while tanking now? |
| 18:31.15 | Fisker- | need a key from WotLK for that |
| 18:31.20 | Fisker- | Besides i didn't even get anything from the "exploit" |
| 18:31.25 | Jygga | which was impossible without using "Fisker'sracingconditionexploit" ™ |
| 18:31.31 | Groktar | is Zul |
| 18:31.32 | Fisker- | Other than some masks towards the mask for all occasions |
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| 18:33.24 | Mytos | there is no groktar, only Zul |
| 18:33.42 | Groktar | :D |
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| 18:34.07 | NivFreak | nm, survival of the fittest |
| 18:34.11 | Gnarfoz | pokes Groktars titties |
| 18:34.22 | Groktar | wonders if ag` is the keymaster |
| 18:34.31 | Nayala | Yeah 6% at 3 points. |
| 18:34.44 | Mytos | anyone here use a nostromo? |
| 18:35.16 | Lywellyn | Mytos: See? Fast and easy! |
| 18:35.29 | Groktar | grovels before Goser |
| 18:35.32 | Mytos | it took you an hour |
| 18:36.12 | Daemona | oh man, are they EVER gonna FIX that you receive combat log messages from across the continent ?! |
| 18:36.17 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Ackis * r112 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 18:36.18 | Repo | Add zhTW translation per toshism, wtb localization mechanic for wowace/curseforge ckknight :P |
| 18:36.22 | Daemona | i am at Kazzak and get combat log events from Quel'Danas |
| 18:36.32 | NivFreak | Daemona: probably in 4.1 |
| 18:36.35 | Groktar | lolwat |
| 18:36.51 | Daemona | nothing new Groktar |
| 18:36.52 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r7 / (2 files in 2 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 18:36.53 | Repo | changing embedded libs |
| 18:37.01 | Daemona | this is happening ever again since the combatlog revamp |
| 18:37.07 | Lywellyn | Mytos: It did no such thing! We left the house at 12:55 and right now (and I've been home for at least ten minutes) is 1:35! |
| 18:37.58 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r8 modules/FuBar_EasyDKPFu/libs/ (5 files in 5 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 18:37.59 | Repo | remove libs in fubar plugin prior to getting from svn |
| 18:38.24 | Mytos | my log says you left at 12:38 and its 1:38 right this moment |
| 18:38.26 | Mytos | you took an hour |
| 18:38.50 | Mytos | afk |
| 18:38.55 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: pling |
| 18:39.13 | Lywellyn | well that's also time to get dressed, drive time there and back, and time it took me to get back to my computer. :p |
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| 18:41.03 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): EasyDKP: - |
| 18:41.03 | Repo | Now have embedded libs - update pkgmeta |
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| 18:44.31 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: plong |
| 18:45.29 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: did you get any of that talk yesterday about how Grid creates it's secure frame headers too late in the login process which leads to problems when logging in while in combat? |
| 18:45.42 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: nope |
| 18:45.47 | Gnarfoz | dies |
| 18:46.03 | pastamancer | I was a busy bee yesterday |
| 18:46.06 | Gnarfoz | can someone reiterate or do I have to dig up logs? :D Arrowmaster? nevcairiel? ^^ |
| 18:46.12 | pastamancer | I have logs |
| 18:46.17 | pastamancer | do you have a diff? :) |
| 18:46.24 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r10 modules/FuBar_EasyDKPFu/FuBar_EasyDKPFu.toc: EasyDKP: - |
| 18:46.25 | Repo | updated fubar plugin |
| 18:47.15 | Gnarfoz | I lack knowledge of the intricacies of the secure frame stuff to go around fixing it, but I think it was something about using PLAYER_LOGIN rather than ... some other event. I'll look for the timestamp of when that discussion was going on |
| 18:47.39 | Fisker- | damn |
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| 18:47.46 | Fisker- | GM's been on my character |
| 18:47.52 | Fisker- | so they've probably removed something |
| 18:48.37 | Gnarfoz | that's what the ban msg stated, :P |
| 18:49.05 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: grep for "if you log in in combat, you are in combat" that's the quickest way of finding that discussion without getting a headache because of timezones :D |
| 18:49.06 | Josh_Borke | Fisker-: you did something bad |
| 18:49.25 | Gnarfoz | hey, GMs *duped* my character only to rename it |
| 18:49.35 | Fisker- | :P |
| 18:49.37 | NivFreak | oh that reminds me, I logged out in the middle of an illdian wipe last night |
| 18:49.38 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 18:49.41 | Fisker- | Josh_Borke sure |
| 18:49.55 | NivFreak | freaking pugs |
| 18:49.58 | Mytos | lywellyn, you should write a mod for me |
| 18:50.04 | Lywellyn | oh? |
| 18:50.07 | Mytos | yea |
| 18:50.21 | Lywellyn | this should be....interesting. of what? |
| 18:50.26 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: grid creates the frames in OnEnable |
| 18:50.43 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: when's that called from Ace, then? |
| 18:50.46 | Mytos | i just want it to say in yell, guildchat, general, trade, and lfg "IM BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE IVE GOT MIDNIGHT" and then link the mount |
| 18:50.51 | Mytos | and do it every 5 minutes |
| 18:51.04 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: per the logs yesterday, PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 18:51.33 | pastamancer | Mytos: you and sag_ich_nicht should be friends |
| 18:52.11 | Lywellyn | Mytos: Only thing is: Link wouldn't work in general and possibly LFG. :p |
| 18:52.32 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: hm. it creates 7 rows of frames for me, instead of 5 (with the 25 players, no pets layout) when I log in in combat, and Clique doesn't get a chance to sink its teeth into them so click casting won't work. :\ it works fine on PitBull frames though. (this is all when logging in in combat) |
| 18:52.52 | Mytos | lol |
| 18:53.10 | Antiarc | You can't move a secure frame in combat without hardware input, correct? |
| 18:53.11 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: it shows both party and raid frames because PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED happens before RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 18:53.14 | Lywellyn | I did create a sweet macro that, if I don't have a one handed sword equipped, it equips the Horseman's Blade, and if it is equipped, it uses it and yells out the same thing the Horseman yelled when he summoned his pets. |
| 18:53.35 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: that should be correct, yes |
| 18:53.47 | Antiarc | Hm. I guess I could still make it work |
| 18:53.55 | Antiarc | I want to make radial spell menus, like in Secret of Mana |
| 18:53.59 | Antiarc | But the animations wouldn't work in combat |
| 18:54.24 | Lywellyn | Antiarc: Just a quick question if you may know it off the top of your head: where is it in your armory tool mod that checks each cached sig if 12 hours have passed? Is it possible to reduce that from 12 to say, 6 or less? |
| 18:54.25 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: ah, sounds logical but can that be worked around? (and what about the other part? are you privvy as to how or when Clique tries to set do it's thang?) |
| 18:54.33 | pastamancer | you could fake it by using an invisible secure pie and anchoring the animations elsewhere |
| 18:54.41 | Shot | Antiarc: radial spell menus? |
| 18:54.41 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: I do not know |
| 18:54.43 | Antiarc | Uhh, let me see |
| 18:54.54 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: checked OPie at all? |
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| 18:55.11 | *** join/#wowace Zeksie (n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:55.11 | Shot | I was thinking that Gnarfoz |
| 18:55.12 | Antiarc | I haven't - I will |
| 18:55.31 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: okay, I'll probably try to make cladhaire aware of it next, then ;) |
| 18:55.35 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3YdJusnhig <-- radial menus, about 16 sec in |
| 18:55.59 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: it may be that Clique is getting PLAYER_LOGIN before Grid does |
| 18:56.38 | Shot | ah |
| 18:56.46 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: but PLAYER_LOGIN should be occuring before PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 18:56.48 | cladhaire | whats the problem? |
| 18:56.56 | Shot | Opie can make a nice circle of spells, but then you mouseover and release to cast |
| 18:56.57 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: and so the frames should already exist |
| 18:57.10 | Shot | rather than rotating them to a selected box |
| 18:57.12 | pastamancer | cladhaire: apparently logging in, in-combat causes clique to not work with grid |
| 18:57.32 | cladhaire | but opening the configuration GUI and closing it again makes it work |
| 18:57.33 | cladhaire | or should |
| 18:57.37 | pastamancer | cladhaire: Grid creates its secure headers on PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 18:57.40 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: opie is what you want - http://go-hero.net/opie/ |
| 18:57.41 | Gnarfoz | can't open the config menu in combat, cladhaire ;) |
| 18:57.43 | Antiarc | Sweet |
| 18:57.47 | peteskiski | hopefull the servers will be up in the next week |
| 18:57.50 | cladhaire | Gnarfoz: and nothing would change if you could. |
| 18:57.54 | cladhaire | I can't set attribtues in combat |
| 18:57.55 | cladhaire | period |
| 18:57.56 | Antiarc | I'm -really- tempted to go on this retro UI modding spree |
| 18:57.56 | Shot | it works really really well too |
| 18:58.02 | Gnarfoz | cladhaire: you just said that would make it work? ;p |
| 18:58.06 | Shot | i use it on my paladin for blessings/auras/seals |
| 18:58.07 | cladhaire | ... |
| 18:58.08 | Antiarc | Like, put together UIs that look like oldschool RPGs |
| 18:58.08 | cladhaire | Gnarfoz: it would |
| 18:58.13 | cladhaire | actually exiting combat would make it work |
| 18:58.14 | cladhaire | again |
| 18:58.16 | Gnarfoz | cladhaire: the point is: clique works on pitbull frames when logging in in combat, but not on Grid frames |
| 18:58.19 | cladhaire | if I happen to be called in the secure chain from the raid header initialization, then I can do what I want |
| 18:58.29 | cladhaire | Gnarfoz: Clique does the same thing on every single unit frame |
| 18:58.30 | Antiarc | target/party frames that look like this: http://recensioni-videogiochi.dvd.it/images/Final_Fantasy_6_Advance/Final-Fantasy-6-Advance-02-m.jpg |
| 18:58.32 | Antiarc | Would be ugly as hell |
| 18:58.33 | pastamancer | Antiarc: make an oldschool EQ1 UI so that everyone can feel the pain! |
| 18:58.34 | cladhaire | at the same time |
| 18:58.35 | Antiarc | But would be awesome |
| 18:58.44 | Gnarfoz | cladhaire: so I guessed, but then what's causing the difference? :) |
| 18:58.53 | cladhaire | no idea |
| 18:59.23 | Daemona | hmm that looks OPie like Antiarc |
| 18:59.32 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: reloading your ui will definitely fix it even while still in combat |
| 18:59.45 | KriLL3 | does your arena points get updated before downtime, during or after? |
| 19:00.00 | pastamancer | Gnarfoz: because then RRU/PMC is fired before PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 19:00.04 | Antiarc | during, I'd assume |
| 19:00.06 | KriLL3 | I think I saw my honor points update just before downtime back in the day of weekly honor |
| 19:00.26 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC94751.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 19:00.49 | Pneumatus | UK bookmaker Ladbrokes says it has accepted a £60,000 ($96,000) bet - at odds of 1/6 - on Mr Obama winning. |
| 19:00.49 | Pneumatus | worst odds ever. |
| 19:00.56 | Saryai | KriLL3: Same time as arena IIRC |
| 19:01.03 | Saryai | Err... honor |
| 19:01.18 | KriLL3 | Saryai: honor isn't weekly anymore |
| 19:01.19 | Shot | opie + sexymap make for a nice colourful glowing ui :) |
| 19:01.29 | falconindy | Antiarc: in fontain, was there a reason you commented out the line that alters UNIT_NAME_FONT? unfinished? |
| 19:01.41 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1025 / (20 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 10 lines) |
| 19:01.43 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
| 19:01.43 | Repo | - Tooltips for the recipe and the expand/contract button had the same code, removed it and moved it to a local function, making it easier to update the tooltip display stuffz |
| 19:01.45 | Saryai | Nope, but the "Today" honor still does at the old update time. |
| 19:01.46 | Repo | - Ticket 186 - Make a manual entry for the orcish war leggings to handle it as a special case |
| 19:01.50 | Repo | - Ticket 187 - use 2002.TTF for both fonts |
| 19:01.55 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 19:02.06 | KriLL3 | just before downtime or something like that right? |
| 19:02.09 | KriLL3 | 03:00 |
| 19:02.14 | Antiarc | falconindy: It doesn't work. I'm not sure how to get it to work, and I was advised that messing with that causes taint problems. |
| 19:02.15 | Saryai | Usually, yup |
| 19:02.39 | Saryai | I've seen it be an hour or two late sometimes, but they'll do the updates right before pulling servers for maint |
| 19:03.04 | pastamancer | Antiarc: http://www.thehecatomb.com/images/screenshots/lady-vox-hp-shot.jpg that interface! |
| 19:03.12 | Antiarc | hahaha |
| 19:03.36 | Saryai | WOOT VOX@ |
| 19:03.43 | falconindy | Antiarc: ahh, thanks |
| 19:03.48 | Saryai | Ahh, the bad old days. =P |
| 19:03.53 | pastamancer | indeed |
| 19:03.54 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvvCenLdbT8 makes me want to build a SoM UI something fierce. |
| 19:04.37 | Aeyan | SoM was badass |
| 19:04.40 | pentium166 | There was a SoM ring UI at one point |
| 19:04.58 | Repo | 10who-favorites: 03Dridzt * r31 / (5 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 19:04.59 | Repo | - WoW 3.0.2/WotLK compatibility updates |
| 19:05.00 | Repo | - bugfix static popup save button |
| 19:05.01 | Repo | - bugfix autoquery |
| 19:05.05 | Repo | - libraries removed from .toc and added to embeds.xml |
| 19:05.19 | Shot | alternatively, it would be an interesting project to create UIs that look identical to other modern UIs |
| 19:05.19 | Shot | for no particular reason, of course |
| 19:05.19 | Shot | but making WoW's UI look identical to.. guild wars for example |
| 19:05.19 | Shot | would be an interesting project |
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| 19:05.32 | pastamancer | oh, I think the SoM ring was what inspired the pre-2.0 pie addon... don't remember its name though |
| 19:06.30 | KriLL3 | why isn't ignore + report spam the same button? :\ |
| 19:06.49 | KriLL3 | well one button, ignore should also be seperate |
| 19:06.59 | KriLL3 | if you report spam it's quite likely you want to ignore... |
| 19:07.17 | Cheads | if you "report spam" they are also ignored |
| 19:07.23 | KriLL3 | not for me |
| 19:07.41 | cnc|food | report spam = whole account ignored |
| 19:07.46 | peteskiski | extended maintence figures |
| 19:07.55 | KriLL3 | peteskiski: patch |
| 19:07.58 | Cheads | it's not in the ignore tab.. you won't see itthere |
| 19:08.03 | KriLL3 | kk |
| 19:08.21 | peteskiski | they always put up a time when the servers will be back up and NEVER are they right its bullshit |
| 19:08.38 | linear` | ^ |
| 19:08.45 | Antiarc | I kinda wish that I could write postfilters for WoW |
| 19:08.48 | Antiarc | Because that would be badass |
| 19:08.49 | KriLL3 | peteskiski: always remember the forth of November, Retribution paladins cried all day |
| 19:08.53 | Antiarc | I could do so much cool stuff with it :D |
| 19:09.03 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: what's that? |
| 19:09.15 | harl|alienated | what happened to OneStorage? is there any use left for it with the recent patch and changes and those to come? |
| 19:09.21 | Antiarc | pixel shaders, for post-frame render effects processing |
| 19:09.43 | Antiarc | So like, I could do a pixelization shader for that oldschool look |
| 19:09.50 | Antiarc | Just a very slight mosaic effect |
| 19:10.15 | Antiarc | Hm. I need a separate WoW install |
| 19:10.28 | Antiarc | Or a way to remap the Interface and WTF directories to other directories |
| 19:10.42 | Tentacled | softlinks? |
| 19:10.43 | KriLL3 | harl|alienated: if not I'd recommend combuctor, it's similar |
| 19:10.44 | Cheads | links! |
| 19:10.48 | Antiarc | I'm on Windows :( |
| 19:10.52 | harl|alienated | WinHardLink? |
| 19:10.53 | Tentacled | Windows has softlink. |
| 19:10.56 | Tentacled | s |
| 19:10.56 | Cheads | vista has links |
| 19:10.57 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 19:10.58 | Antiarc | XP |
| 19:11.00 | Antiarc | SP 3 |
| 19:11.07 | Tentacled | XP has links too, just harder to do. |
| 19:11.08 | durcyn | ~wowalert |
| 19:11.09 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 19:11.16 | Antiarc | Sweet. |
| 19:11.21 | Antiarc | afk making awesome UIs |
| 19:11.25 | harl|alienated | i use WinHardLink to link all the savedvariables directories of my characters |
| 19:11.29 | Tentacled | Search for an utility that creates them. |
| 19:11.46 | durcyn | Antiarc: Junction is what NTFS calls it |
| 19:12.02 | harl|alienated | and everything else in my characters directories for that matter, except macros, these are class-based |
| 19:12.12 | Antiarc | Badass. |
| 19:12.41 | Cheads | yeah junction points.. only for directories |
| 19:13.03 | pastamancer | yeah, I've been meaning to setup junctions for my second account's directory |
| 19:13.17 | Chompers | ah hello thar Antiarc, how's the new kid? |
| 19:13.22 | Antiarc | He's great :D |
| 19:13.28 | Chompers | horay :D |
| 19:13.32 | Daemona | hmmmm hmm does that work via vpn? i always forget to sync my laptop when on the run ^^ |
| 19:13.33 | Antiarc | He's a leet raider |
| 19:13.49 | *** join/#wowace EvilJohn (n=eviljohn@140.239.219.132) |
| 19:13.49 | AckisWork | what's the point of linking different characters on the same account together? |
| 19:13.55 | Cheads | junctions only work locally |
| 19:13.57 | Daemona | oh, twins down already Antiarc? ^^ |
| 19:14.06 | Antiarc | We killed KJ |
| 19:14.17 | Daemona | was referring to the toddler ;) |
| 19:14.18 | Antiarc | http://picasaweb.google.com/cheald/LoganWeek2#5261910279772664306 <-- world's youngest KJ kill |
| 19:14.21 | Antiarc | Oh, hehe |
| 19:15.04 | Daemona | evil |
| 19:15.12 | ckknight | Antiarc: lol |
| 19:15.22 | LexSfX | was the prayer of mending sound bug fixed today? |
| 19:15.54 | LexSfX | i guess i can just log in and test it, lol. |
| 19:16.01 | Chompers | that pictures awesome |
| 19:16.09 | LexSfX | also, agreed about that picture. |
| 19:16.27 | Daemona | The Trueman Show or CSI:Miami ... choices where no choices are ... |
| 19:16.54 | Daemona | i definitly need to download more good stuff and watch less tv ... |
| 19:17.18 | Chompers | its blatantly a plug for his minimap addon, you can clearly see it |
| 19:17.18 | SunTsu | Daemona: CSI:Miami. Just for the fun of counting how often Horatio puts on his sunglasses |
| 19:17.20 | harl|alienated | no question there, the choice is csi:miami |
| 19:17.28 | Chompers | glowing in the corner over there |
| 19:17.42 | Jaxon | SunTsu: YYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHh |
| 19:18.02 | harl|alienated | it's with caps. |
| 19:18.31 | ShaneSveller | SunTsu: make a drinking game out of it. that way, when they air re-runs, the ending is still new to you! |
| 19:18.34 | Daemona | sexymap > chincilla? |
| 19:18.40 | Daemona | i challenge thee |
| 19:19.10 | Shot | it gloooooows! |
| 19:19.23 | Jaxon | Its like watching the first three seasons of house and betting on how long into the episode it takes for someone to have a siezure. |
| 19:19.48 | ShaneSveller | or to guess that it's lupus. |
| 19:20.01 | Mytos | that picture terrifies me antiarc |
| 19:20.05 | Antiarc | Sweet. Symlinks set up. |
| 19:20.13 | SunTsu | ShaneSveller: Reminds me of the drinking game we did on a vacation with basketball. "OK, we drink whenever germany scores" - we ended up drinking whenever somebody from the german team touched the ball |
| 19:20.20 | Antiarc | I think you mean that picture is awesome. |
| 19:20.21 | Daemona | because of the crt or what Mytos ? ;) |
| 19:20.29 | Antiarc | I know my desk is messy >_> |
| 19:20.37 | LexSfX | the closeness of the baby's head to the glass edge. :P |
| 19:20.42 | AckisWork | lol Antiarc your kid ahas so much hair |
| 19:20.46 | Mytos | because of the babies head right near the edge of the huge plate of GLASS |
| 19:20.47 | |Yssaril| | Antiarc: what unit frames are you using (also gratz on the kid) |
| 19:20.50 | Antiarc | He's not that close, really |
| 19:20.55 | Antiarc | Pitbull on the unit frames |
| 19:20.57 | LexSfX | just an optical illusion? |
| 19:21.05 | Antiarc | It's the angle the pic was from, yeah |
| 19:21.22 | Antiarc | And yes, he has a ton of hair |
| 19:21.24 | LexSfX | ah. because from the pic, it looks like if you moved your knee slightly, there'd be a lot of pain. :x |
| 19:21.34 | Antiarc | Nope, I was careful about that |
| 19:21.37 | LexSfX | good. :) |
| 19:21.41 | Chompers | good thing you're not a main tank "brb baby pooped" *afk 20 minutes* |
| 19:21.41 | LexSfX | congrats btw. |
| 19:21.42 | Antiarc | I love the kiddo, I wouldn't do that to him! :P |
| 19:21.46 | Daemona | ooh its the episode about the DX4 "Vaporizer" :D |
| 19:21.47 | Daemona | fun |
| 19:22.07 | Mytos | i dunno, im a slouch, i cant sit in my desk chair without leaning back, i just imagine me sitting in that position wiht a kid and then my desk chair snapping |
| 19:22.27 | LexSfX | Mytos: low quality chair? :o |
| 19:22.35 | Daemona | thats why you get a deskchair where you can fixate it in any position |
| 19:22.36 | Daemona | ... |
| 19:22.45 | Mytos | nah, im just a big guy, desk chairs last me about 6 months |
| 19:22.58 | harl|alienated | sexymap's definitely sexier than chinchilla, but i think it's more a question of taste and ui style. |
| 19:23.18 | Mytos | im 6ft10in and 275lbs, im so tall that most chairs break because of my high center of gravity |
| 19:23.23 | Antiarc | Hahaha |
| 19:23.26 | Antiarc | I'm 6'10" and 280 |
| 19:23.36 | Antiarc | Sup tall buddy. |
| 19:23.37 | NeoTron | hmm interesting |
| 19:23.43 | Mytos | you go through chairs like i do? |
| 19:23.44 | LexSfX | battle of the beasts |
| 19:23.44 | Chompers | you're monsters |
| 19:23.46 | Antiarc | Oh yeah |
| 19:23.49 | Chompers | both of you |
| 19:23.51 | Antiarc | I bought the replacement plan on mine |
| 19:23.53 | NeoTron | so they nerf Windfury Totem not to affect ranged haste, but Icy Talons still do |
| 19:23.56 | Antiarc | If I break it in 5 years, I get a free one |
| 19:23.56 | Mytos | how much do you lean back? |
| 19:24.01 | Antiarc | All the time |
| 19:24.07 | Mytos | how far? |
| 19:24.08 | Antiarc | I practically lay down in my computer chair |
| 19:24.15 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 19:24.18 | Antiarc | All the way back |
| 19:24.21 | Mytos | mines bottomed out all the time so my eyes are on a level with the monitors on my desk |
| 19:24.29 | Antiarc | Yeah, same here |
| 19:24.35 | KriLL3 | Antiarc: how do you see your screens? |
| 19:24.47 | Antiarc | I have a 24" monitor |
| 19:24.50 | Antiarc | And good eyesight |
| 19:25.02 | harl|alienated | i'm 5ft 4" and 144 pound oO |
| 19:25.02 | Mytos | my eyes are horrible |
| 19:25.04 | Antiarc | I wear my glasses if I'm sitting back more than 4 feet or so |
| 19:25.11 | KriLL3 | well if you're horizontal your knees should be in the way =P |
| 19:25.16 | pastamancer | damn you tall people |
| 19:25.21 | Antiarc | I tuck one leg under the other |
| 19:25.25 | Shot | i used to lean towards my monitor lots with a 17", now i can happily sit up straight and see clearly with a 22" |
| 19:25.25 | Antiarc | And sorta chill out |
| 19:25.27 | Mytos | i cant see 24pt font at 12 inches without my glasses |
| 19:25.33 | Shot | it makes more of a difference than i thought it would |
| 19:25.33 | KriLL3 | my chair is about 45 degrees back |
| 19:25.51 | KriLL3 | Shot: I got a 22 also |
| 19:26.06 | Antiarc | My story is that the place I used to work at got the 24" Dell monitors for all the developer |
| 19:26.08 | Antiarc | developers* |
| 19:26.12 | Mytos | im running dual24s, its not seeing them, its i dont like leaning over for my eyes to be centered |
| 19:26.23 | Antiarc | Then I was completely spoiled when I went home and felt like my 19" was puny and I couldn't see anything |
| 19:26.28 | Antiarc | So I bought a 24" and I can never go back |
| 19:26.29 | ShaneSveller | 22" here. you want squinty, put a 13" macbook next to your work computer's 17" monitor |
| 19:26.32 | Mytos | where did you get your chair antiarc? |
| 19:26.37 | Antiarc | My wife recently got a 26" and I'm slightly jealous >_> |
| 19:26.42 | Antiarc | Uhhh, OfficeMax, I think |
| 19:26.42 | Mytos | ive been thinking of ordering a custom one so i stop breaking them |
| 19:26.55 | Antiarc | It was a $100 chair. I didn't want to spend a lot since I know I'll break it |
| 19:26.55 | NivFreak | I have a 30" on my desk |
| 19:26.56 | KriLL3 | I customized mine |
| 19:26.57 | NivFreak | mmm |
| 19:27.05 | Shot | this shell is on my 14" ws laptop :D |
| 19:27.05 | Antiarc | And I don't want to drop $gazillion on an Aeron or something |
| 19:27.15 | Shot | white on black makes it easier to read though |
| 19:27.22 | Antiarc | I just got a $100 cheapo and the replacement plan |
| 19:27.29 | chiper | I managed to find a base that perfectly fit my old chair's bolt holes, so when the old base broke I just swapped it out |
| 19:27.31 | Antiarc | So I'll get 2 or 3 chairs for a total of $120 |
| 19:27.44 | chiper | have yet to find a cloth chair that's as comfy as the old one |
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| 19:27.50 | harl|alienated | i got a 19" screen, my mirc's default font is 8 pt tahoma |
| 19:27.51 | KriLL3 | the oil spring thing on my chair was inserted into a metal pipe thing, really thin and poorly welded, it turned into a hinge after 2 weeks |
| 19:27.51 | Mytos | have you tried the mesh back iron rod chairs at office max? |
| 19:27.59 | Mytos | ive been thinking about getting one of those |
| 19:28.10 | chiper | my fiance has one of those, it's ok |
| 19:28.11 | KriLL3 | I welted struts etc around it all to make it stiffer |
| 19:28.21 | chiper | but most of those are short backed, I need a head rest |
| 19:28.58 | pastamancer | Antiarc: used aerons aren't too bad... I think they're down to $500... and they are really nice |
| 19:29.07 | harl|alienated | why would you grow that big anyway :p |
| 19:29.15 | Mytos | a friend of mine bought a bmw drivers seat from a junkyard and put it on a base of wooden 4x4s, ive been thinking of doing that too |
| 19:29.21 | Antiarc | I tend to compute in just my boxers or whatever quite often, because I work at home |
| 19:29.28 | Antiarc | So I can't really get one of the metal mesh backed chairs |
| 19:29.38 | chiper | hah |
| 19:29.45 | Antiarc | Mytos: That's a badass idea. |
| 19:30.25 | pastamancer | that would be slick... especially with a nicer base |
| 19:30.32 | pastamancer | I hear those seats are hell comfy |
| 19:30.35 | pastamancer | err, hella |
| 19:30.41 | AckisWork | Antiarc: wouldn't you like a bicycle seat... without the seat |
| 19:31.48 | Daemona | uuh are you talking about http://i4.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/18/43/7d11_1.JPG that kind of aeron? |
| 19:32.02 | pastamancer | that one |
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| 19:32.25 | smcn | the arms on all my chairs are always short-lived |
| 19:32.37 | chiper | AckisWork: I had to ride a bike like that once. very exhausting |
| 19:32.41 | Daemona | currently 300eu on ebay |
| 19:32.42 | Daemona | hmm hmm |
| 19:32.48 | pastamancer | I loves my aeron |
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| 19:33.08 | pastamancer | make sure you get the right size though... there's three sizes |
| 19:33.23 | chiper | some bastard stole my bike seat, had to ride it home standing up |
| 19:34.19 | ShaneSveller | do any of you develop on *nix? if so, what editor do you use? i expect mostly vi/vim or emacs answers |
| 19:34.40 | ckknight | I do |
| 19:34.44 | ckknight | Textmate ;-) |
| 19:34.53 | chiper | heh, ck stole my answer |
| 19:35.09 | ShaneSveller | i have textmate myself, love it to death. |
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| 19:36.33 | pastamancer | ShaneSveller: emacs |
| 19:37.08 | pastamancer | ShaneSveller: I'd only recommend it if you really want to learn emacs though |
| 19:37.41 | ShaneSveller | not super-inclined to do so, no. but i hear it's pretty much the shit if you know your way around. |
| 19:38.20 | ShaneSveller | i'm just really liking having multiple desktops and native support for git and hg |
| 19:38.42 | ShaneSveller | a really nice editor would be the cherry on top |
| 19:39.11 | ShaneSveller | (i grabbed the cedega giveaway copy last week and have been having fun playing wow on ubuntu 8.10) |
| 19:39.42 | pastamancer | git-mode in emacs isn't all there yet unfortunately |
| 19:39.59 | pastamancer | but most of it works using the default VC keybindings in emacs |
| 19:40.12 | pastamancer | it's nice to have the same keybindings regardless of whether I'm using svn or git or cvs |
| 19:40.24 | pentium166 | it wasn't cedega last week, unless they did it too |
| 19:40.31 | harl|alienated | mcdonald's tastes like crap. |
| 19:40.34 | pentium166 | or i am horribly confused about the state of wine forks |
| 19:40.49 | falconindy | http://go-hero.net/opie/ |
| 19:40.53 | Daemona | could be general issue with fastfood harl|alienated ;) |
| 19:40.57 | falconindy | ah shoot, wrong window |
| 19:41.19 | LexSfX | ShaneSveller: does wow run really smoothly with cedega for you? |
| 19:41.20 | harl|alienated | Daemona: schon möglich. |
| 19:42.04 | pastamancer | fast food ist sheiss egal |
| 19:42.33 | harl|alienated | doesn't like fast food then. |
| 19:42.57 | Cavisty^gerber | is sourceforge down |
| 19:42.58 | Cavisty^gerber | ? |
| 19:43.06 | Fisker- | slaps pastamancer around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:43.08 | Fisker- | Why so german? |
| 19:43.31 | pastamancer | harl started it! |
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| 19:43.45 | harl|alienated | oh, i'm so sorry. lol. :p |
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| 19:45.47 | pastamancer | besides, I think what I said was better expressed in german |
| 19:46.44 | ckknight | is ß still widely used in German? |
| 19:47.04 | Daemona | hmm i guess my mIRC cant interprete that ascii ckk |
| 19:47.12 | Daemona | else i might be able to answer that |
| 19:47.21 | ramoz | think they officially went away from it some years ago |
| 19:47.25 | Daemona | @ckknight: is ß still widely used in German? |
| 19:47.26 | ckknight | it's the schafes S |
| 19:47.33 | Daemona | aah ß `;)= |
| 19:47.46 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:47.52 | Daemona | no idea, i am outa school and didnt check for the last 2 changes |
| 19:47.55 | ckknight | no, Fisker- |
| 19:47.56 | ckknight | no. |
| 19:47.57 | Fisker- | ok |
| 19:48.03 | Fisker- | ok. |
| 19:48.10 | nevcairiel | it was mostly removed from words, however, there are still exceptions where its used |
| 19:48.15 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt say "widely" |
| 19:48.16 | Fisker- | fondles ckknight as a replacement for the trout |
| 19:48.25 | ckknight | ...lol |
| 19:48.38 | Fisker- | figured you'd like it |
| 19:50.27 | Foxor | ckknight: yea, that's german, the whole language is build on 3 rules |
| 19:50.36 | Foxor | and the 2345489 exceptions |
| 19:50.44 | ckknight | Foxor: I know it's German, I took 3 years of it |
| 19:50.53 | ckknight | yea, I hate exceptions in language |
| 19:50.57 | ckknight | especially in my native tongue |
| 19:51.04 | ckknight | lousy sponge-like language |
| 19:51.11 | ckknight | let's all just use Esperanto, k? |
| 19:51.18 | pastamancer | lol esperanto |
| 19:51.20 | ckknight | Kiel vi fartas, Foxor? |
| 19:51.24 | ThiefMaster | ß is used like ss but if you speak the ss slowly |
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| 19:52.15 | Megalon | espewtf |
| 19:52.19 | Megalon | :Y |
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| 19:52.55 | KriLL3 | Megalon: it's a mix of a couple of languages, near idea, just hard to implement |
| 19:53.13 | KriLL3 | *neat |
| 19:53.16 | fry | Hey, is there a way to manually fire WoW API events? So far I am as far as calling OnEvent on every result of GetFramesRegisteredForEvent(event), but maybe WoWAce can already do it? |
| 19:53.30 | pastamancer | fry: don't do that |
| 19:53.47 | pastamancer | down that path lies madness... and taint |
| 19:53.58 | harl|alienated | rofl |
| 19:54.03 | KriLL3 | http://failblog.org/2008/11/04/pdt-fail/ <-- now that's fail |
| 19:54.03 | CrazyBenny | you can fire blizzards events, but its the ugliest thign you could ever do |
| 19:54.15 | fry | I do need to produce an artifical guild message that is processed by all addons, do you know of a cleaner version? |
| 19:54.45 | pastamancer | you can't, reconsider what your goal is and try another way |
| 19:54.54 | pastamancer | or at least you really really shouldn't |
| 19:54.58 | harl|alienated | KriLL3: indeed. |
| 19:54.59 | fry | I know ;9 |
| 19:55.02 | fry | *;) |
| 19:55.16 | pastamancer | what is the desired end-result? |
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| 19:55.47 | Daemona | total different thing... why the heck to circulating stuff on sexymap @ Antiarc |
| 19:56.26 | ckknight | KriLL3: how is Esperanto "hard to implement"? |
| 19:56.30 | ckknight | you mean get people to use? |
| 19:56.35 | KriLL3 | ckknight: yeah |
| 19:56.37 | ckknight | yea, it hasn't had all that much traction |
| 19:56.44 | ckknight | it's a cool language, though |
| 19:56.53 | ckknight | has a lot of benefits over English and such |
| 19:57.02 | KriLL3 | the problem is that everyone needs to learn it, most people seem to prefer to make everyone else learn their language =P |
| 19:57.04 | ckknight | it exists without exceptions |
| 19:57.11 | fry | the end result is a guild message decoded from a GUILD-addon channel message; and it should work as transparent as possible to the user, that means it needs to be processed by every addon/event handler |
| 19:57.16 | ckknight | well, it's meant to be an international secondary language |
| 19:57.21 | ckknight | not really a first language |
| 19:57.41 | KriLL3 | well most second languages are the first language of a larger/more important nation etc |
| 19:57.43 | Arrowmaster | shitty name |
| 19:57.46 | KriLL3 | or where ever you moved |
| 19:57.48 | harl|alienated | likes esperanto, but never had enough time to really learn it, though just trying that bit of it even gave some insight to some other languages |
| 19:57.59 | ckknight | harl|alienated: Kiel vi fartas? |
| 19:58.00 | ckknight | :-P |
| 19:58.12 | pastamancer | esperanto will never make it as a first language because languages that are used every day evolve... thats why different dialects happen |
| 19:58.28 | harl|alienated | yea, well, i'm fine, ckknight |
| 19:58.37 | ckknight | bah |
| 19:58.43 | ckknight | you should respond in Esperanto as well |
| 19:58.53 | harl|alienated | i should, should i. |
| 19:58.55 | ckknight | a la "Mi fartas bone" |
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| 19:59.49 | ckknight | oh well |
| 19:59.52 | ckknight | I'm done |
| 19:59.53 | Antiarc | Daemona: Because it's sexy |
| 20:01.41 | ckknight | http://images.stage6.com/channel_images/refuselife/46b04019063ef.jpg |
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| 20:03.15 | Loonacy | That's one happy computer. |
| 20:03.26 | Loonacy | It must not realize it's running DOS. |
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| 20:04.11 | pentium166 | ignorance is bliss, as they say |
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| 20:04.46 | Megalon | good ol' stage6 :< |
| 20:04.52 | ShaneSveller | LexSfX: sorry for the delayed response, so far, yes. mildly better framerates, limited to only 4xAA |
| 20:05.11 | LexSfX | better framerates than on a Mac/PC? |
| 20:05.35 | harl|alienated | doesn't agree with the "ignorance is bliss" saying and all. |
| 20:05.43 | Zhinjio | Good afternoon, folks. |
| 20:06.16 | AckisWork | sup Zhinjio |
| 20:06.28 | Zhinjio | waves |
| 20:06.39 | Loonacy | Ignorance is only bliss for the ignorant. |
| 20:07.02 | ShaneSveller | LexSfX: same PC, same hardware, running XP Pro SP3, Vista Ult x64 SP1, and Ubuntu 8.10 |
| 20:07.30 | LexSfX | ah, awesome. i might want to start using Ubuntu then... |
| 20:08.18 | ShaneSveller | LexSfX: it's probably nearly the same if you were to just run on windows using opengl instead of directx. there might be slight gains from much less background bloat and more free memory, but that doesn't really come up in my case, having 4GB to play with |
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| 20:08.41 | AckisWork | hey is the election over, or are results coming in yet? |
| 20:08.53 | AckisWork | wants to know who's going to ruin the US for the next 4 years. |
| 20:09.00 | AckisWork | s/ruin/run/ ? |
| 20:09.02 | Antiarc | Polling places won't be closed for another 8 hours or so |
| 20:09.15 | ShaneSveller | there's still almost 12 hours of voting left, as i understand it, it's only 3pm on the east coast and there's still voting to do in alaska, etc. |
| 20:09.28 | ShaneSveller | 8, 12, close enough =P |
| 20:09.38 | LexSfX | ShaneSveller: i also have 4GB to play with. i've pretty-much fixed any framerate issues is Sunwell i had a week ago though. i just wanted to know if i could safely switch to using Ubuntu full-time and not have the hassle of having to dual-boot Windows just to play wow. |
| 20:09.42 | AckisWork | plus a couple weeks of counting hanging chads? |
| 20:09.43 | KriLL3 | I wounder who alaska votes for... |
| 20:10.09 | ShaneSveller | KriLL3: didn't Dubya almost lose in TX? |
| 20:10.17 | KriLL3 | well he's not from TX |
| 20:11.05 | KriLL3 | He's from Connecticut |
| 20:11.41 | ShaneSveller | LexSfX: mind you, i've only been using WoW on ubuntu since the day Intrepid released, so less than a week of testing might not be enough to go by |
| 20:11.54 | ShaneSveller | LexSfX: also note that i'm using Cedega, not plain WINE |
| 20:12.05 | LexSfX | ShaneSveller: ah. |
| 20:12.07 | linear` | table.wipe is a new function they added right |
| 20:12.38 | ShaneSveller | pentium166: you're right, it was CrossOver, not CEDEGA doing the give away last week. my bad. |
| 20:13.04 | ShaneSveller | (I've got them both. and i really need to be more consistent with my capitalization.) |
| 20:13.31 | Repo | 10nobility-console: 03ciscoh 04beta0.0.0005 * r29 : fixed toc |
| 20:13.33 | ShaneSveller | pentium166: probably cost CodeWeaves between a $500k and $750k in lost sales |
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| 20:14.16 | pentium166 | that's assuming the people who downloaded it were going to buy it |
| 20:14.35 | pentium166 | i doubt the bandwidth cost was that high |
| 20:14.45 | kenlyric | it generates sales for upgrades |
| 20:14.47 | ShaneSveller | pentium166: right. i'm sure plenty of them wouldn't have, like myself. |
| 20:15.00 | kenlyric | marketing is marketing |
| 20:15.34 | pentium166 | I should test it out to see how it compares with WINE |
| 20:15.46 | ShaneSveller | crossover? |
| 20:15.55 | pentium166 | Well, I should get WINE to not force me to restart X when I try to run WoW first |
| 20:15.57 | pentium166 | yes |
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| 20:16.19 | ShaneSveller | it's built on top of wine, with some user-friendliness and compatability improvements |
| 20:16.41 | ShaneSveller | pentium166: why are you forced to restart X? |
| 20:17.26 | ShaneSveller | just for S&G's i may try to make an xsession that runs nothing but WoW, that'd be interesting. |
| 20:17.31 | pentium166 | display wigs out |
| 20:17.41 | pastamancer | linear`: that looks new |
| 20:17.54 | ShaneSveller | pentium166: what vidcard do you have, and what rez do you run X at / WoW at? |
| 20:18.06 | pentium166 | like randomly distributing blocks of the image all over |
| 20:18.19 | pentium166 | Radeon X800 right now, uh |
| 20:18.26 | ShaneSveller | pentium166: also, do you use any compositing software like Compiz? |
| 20:18.35 | Arrowmaster | http://hothardware.com/image_popup.aspx?image=big_sandra_mce.jpg&articleid=1232&t=a |
| 20:18.36 | Arrowmaster | need |
| 20:18.39 | pentium166 | 1152x864 for X and I nuked my wow config, so 800x600 probably |
| 20:18.44 | pentium166 | I do not |
| 20:19.02 | ajmitch | ShaneSveller: sadly wow doesn't always get decent framerate with wine, even on normally adequate hardware |
| 20:19.11 | pentium166 | I haven't tried any native software yet to see if that causes the corruption |
| 20:19.29 | ShaneSveller | ajmitch: no? |
| 20:19.44 | pentium166 | It's not really a priority for me because it's my secondary box and I'd be using it mostly for screwing around with two accounts |
| 20:20.02 | ajmitch | gets to enjoy a slideshow when tanking, makes for interesting times |
| 20:20.14 | pentium166 | the main reason I keep it running is to provide a home for irssi! |
| 20:20.22 | ShaneSveller | i have encountered twice now times where wow stops updating the display, sound will continue to play, and i can switch to TTYs or even other desktops within my X session, using both Windowed and Fullscreen modes |
| 20:20.49 | ShaneSveller | switching away and back has fixed it both times, but it's odd. |
| 20:25.55 | ShaneSveller | wow. GC's upcoming feral changes bluepost from this morning was a rollercoaster of a read. "they's taking my armor!" "they's letting me keeps it!" "yay, mana discounts for feral!" "yayyayyay prot of the pack fixed!" |
| 20:26.08 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r41 Core.lua: onenter support, cleanup from last night. |
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| 20:26.58 | pentium166 | oh yay, patch tuesday |
| 20:27.05 | pentium166 | i hope my windows box has not rebooted when i go home |
| 20:27.39 | pentium166 | ShaneSveller: url? |
| 20:27.52 | ShaneSveller | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/2/12065155975-upcoming-feral-changes.html |
| 20:30.12 | pentium166 | hmm. |
| 20:30.55 | LexSfX | the prayer of mending sound bug is fixed! yahooooo! |
| 20:31.25 | pentium166 | Was that the lingering sound bug or something else? |
| 20:31.34 | AckisWork | wtb fullsized pic of: http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/bobbettee/?action=view¤t=18121583.jpg |
| 20:31.36 | LexSfX | the lingering sound bug from Prayer of Mending. |
| 20:31.40 | LexSfX | that's what it was. |
| 20:31.50 | LexSfX | bah, Magic Broom has a cast time now. :( |
| 20:31.55 | pentium166 | yessssss |
| 20:35.00 | pentium166 | That sound bug was weird |
| 20:35.16 | [dRaCo] | too bad, now I've gotta use swift flight form again |
| 20:35.47 | pentium166 | I'd ride out of the starting room in an arena and it would be coming from the top of the bridge or something as soon as we got there |
| 20:37.43 | LexSfX | yeah, it lingered in your current session's loaded zones locally, if a prayer of mending was cast at that spot |
| 20:37.54 | LexSfX | so you'd hear it in the same arenas in the same spots |
| 20:38.03 | LexSfX | i play a priest main, so it was *REALLY* annoying for me. |
| 20:38.09 | Loonacy | It's because it's such an awesome spell. |
| 20:38.13 | LexSfX | haha. :) |
| 20:38.15 | LexSfX | so true. |
| 20:38.29 | Loonacy | It would be so nice if it lasted forever. |
| 20:38.34 | pentium166 | If I was in a BG I would just toggle hardware acceleration and it would go away |
| 20:38.39 | LexSfX | infinite charges? lol |
| 20:38.45 | LexSfX | that'd be raid hax |
| 20:40.07 | Loonacy | 20 PoMs bouncing around all over the place. |
| 20:40.10 | LexSfX | i'm so used to instant mount now that i'm interrupting my mount cast almost every time i press it. :( |
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| 20:43.40 | Primer | "A tooltip error in the glyph of sprint has been corrected"... |
| 20:43.42 | Primer | WTF |
| 20:43.54 | Primer | was it NOT supposed to reduce the CD by 60 seconds? |
| 20:44.06 | Primer | because I noticed in the patch notes, this was NOT listed as "fixed" |
| 20:44.10 | LexSfX | did it do that previously? |
| 20:44.12 | Primer | in the glyphs section |
| 20:44.16 | Primer | no, it didn't |
| 20:44.18 | Primer | it was broken |
| 20:44.25 | LexSfX | oh... wow. |
| 20:44.32 | LexSfX | so Blizzard didn't really want it to do that. |
| 20:44.43 | Primer | I want my fucking money back |
| 20:45.45 | ShaneSveller | anyone got LittleBigPlanet? I'm already bored with Fallout 3... |
| 20:46.07 | Zhinjio | LBP is *almost* enough to make my buy a ps3 |
| 20:46.27 | Loonacy | I'm glad i already have a PS3. |
| 20:46.49 | AckisWork | ShaneSveller: fallout 3 reminds me of bioshock... own em both haven't played either lol (tried to get fallout 3 to work on live on the PC but it FAILED) |
| 20:47.09 | Loonacy | I haven't picked up LBP yet, i've been playing the (incredibly buggy) Web of Shadows game. |
| 20:47.21 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: FO3 actually was a fairly worthy successor the first two (BOS and Tactics don't exist as far as i'm concerned) |
| 20:47.44 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: not playing bioshock is doing yourself a disservice. |
| 20:47.54 | ShaneSveller | I picked up FO3 and Fable 2 and finished the main quest lines for each in a few days |
| 20:47.58 | Primer | Ok, so the glyoh of sprint now increases the speed by 30%, but reduces the time by 5 seconds |
| 20:48.13 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: I know, just do you want me to play bioshock or work on aRL? ;) |
| 20:48.20 | Loonacy | 5 whole seconds? |
| 20:48.21 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: I'd second Zhinjio's statement, too. |
| 20:48.27 | Xinhuan | damn |
| 20:48.31 | Xinhuan | magic broom has a cast time now |
| 20:48.35 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * 1.2.5b-1-g382feda / (4 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] update mounted for 3.0.3 some minor scanning changes |
| 20:48.39 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 04v1.2.5 * cab2d58 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.2.5 |
| 20:48.58 | Loonacy | I think we need to /topic Yes we know the broom has a cast time. |
| 20:49.04 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 20:49.09 | Zhinjio | qft |
| 20:49.20 | ShaneSveller | I hope they keep trimming the balance tree, so I can maybe actually try playing a boomkin |
| 20:49.36 | AckisWork | wow... the broom has a cast time |
| 20:49.47 | Zhinjio | broomkin! |
| 20:49.49 | Zhinjio | ahem. |
| 20:49.55 | AckisWork | roflz |
| 20:50.07 | ShaneSveller | I hear it has a cast time |
| 20:51.00 | Loonacy | What has a cast time? |
| 20:51.02 | Bruners | bigwigs is still the bossmod to go for? |
| 20:51.11 | pentium166 | The Magic Broom has a cast time |
| 20:51.12 | Primer | wow, fail |
| 20:51.16 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 04v1.3.0 * 0bf099b /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3.0 |
| 20:51.17 | Primer | it still doesn't work |
| 20:51.33 | Primer | the buff showed movement speed increased by 50%, for 5 seconds |
| 20:51.40 | ShaneSveller | Bruners: hopefully, since that's what i went with |
| 20:51.43 | Primer | so it HALF works! |
| 20:51.44 | LexSfX | so should i replace simpleminimap with sexymap? |
| 20:51.48 | Primer | and the wrong half at that! |
| 20:51.57 | Zhinjio | LexSfX: short answer: yes |
| 20:52.05 | LexSfX | what's the long answer? :o |
| 20:52.14 | AckisWork | ping yssaril |
| 20:52.15 | pentium166 | did you compare the speed to unglyphed sprint? |
| 20:52.16 | Loonacy | yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 20:52.18 | LexSfX | lol. |
| 20:52.34 | Dashkal | LexSfX: that would defend on what features from SMM you use :p *loves sexymap* |
| 20:52.39 | Zhinjio | well, it would involve a discussion about what simpleminimap *isn't* doing for hyou. |
| 20:52.58 | LexSfX | i used a borderless square map that fits perfectly in the bottom-right corner of my screen below my buff bars. |
| 20:53.08 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: isn't the root decision of: do you like it simple or sexy? |
| 20:53.29 | LexSfX | i like it simple. can sexymap be sexily simple? |
| 20:53.33 | Zhinjio | well, simpleminimap has also long been riddled with memory leaks and such too, so there's that argument |
| 20:53.47 | LexSfX | oooh. and sexymap is not, i take it. getting. |
| 20:54.23 | Loonacy | I've been using RicoMiniMap forever. |
| 20:54.36 | durcyn | Zeksie: Utopia/data.lua line 347 needs to be changed from 48513 to 48511, the talent is 3 ranks in 3.0.3 |
| 20:54.41 | ShaneSveller | i use pMinimap myself |
| 20:54.50 | ShaneSveller | also looked at Seerah's PocketPlot |
| 20:54.55 | NeoTron | Zhinjio: well that's enough reason for me to consider sexymap or another alternative |
| 20:55.33 | Antiarc | SexyMap can be very simple, yes |
| 20:55.45 | LexSfX | k |
| 20:55.54 | Primer | Seems my addons speed indicator is broken now |
| 20:56.00 | Dashkal | LexSfX: I have my sexymap setup as simple as it gets. No pretty borders or other eye candy. Minimal as I can have it. I chose it for the very handy minimap button hiding except on hover |
| 20:56.03 | Zhinjio | NeoTron: agreed |
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| 20:56.11 | Primer | showing 84 for running with minor speed improvement in SW...wonder if it's always been broken for SW |
| 20:56.26 | LexSfX | Dashkal: that's a nifty feature simpleMinimap doesn't have. thanks for the tip. |
| 20:56.46 | Zhinjio | and Dashkal : after a short stint using the fancy rotating textures, I've done the same. |
| 20:57.10 | Dashkal | Zhinjio: :p They're pretty, but distracting. I might put them back if I go with Antiarc's route and get kgpanels to hide the thing in combat |
| 20:57.17 | Primer | hrmm, several addons are broken, yet, no lua errors in bugsack |
| 20:57.34 | Zhinjio | Load out of date addons? |
| 20:57.47 | KaeltenAw | g'morning |
| 20:58.07 | Primer | ahh, didn't realize that reset |
| 20:58.08 | Primer | thanks |
| 20:58.10 | Dashkal | KaeltenAw: mwrarf ("Aw"?) |
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| 20:59.06 | ShaneSveller | Primer: resets every patch. remind yourself to re-check it whenever you get a new EULA prompt. |
| 20:59.34 | Primer | ShaneSveller: will do |
| 21:00.14 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:00.16 | Kaelten | it worked |
| 21:00.17 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 21:00.28 | ckknight | Bobo? |
| 21:00.34 | Kaelten | shrugs |
| 21:00.59 | peteskiski | servers are up!! |
| 21:01.07 | Fisker- | no u |
| 21:01.11 | Loonacy | Not for long! Muahahaha |
| 21:01.39 | AckisWork | hey Fisker- the servers are up... wait you're banned roflz |
| 21:02.14 | Fisker- | Hey AckisWork |
| 21:02.18 | Fisker- | i play on the EU servers |
| 21:02.21 | Fisker- | roflz |
| 21:02.30 | AckisWork | lol |
| 21:04.09 | Primer | OH WTF Magic Broom now is a 3 second cast! |
| 21:04.35 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r11 / (2 files in 2 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 21:04.35 | LexSfX | months behind |
| 21:04.35 | Repo | fix naming of plugin |
| 21:05.43 | Fisker- | nah LexSfX |
| 21:05.54 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn * r100 Heatsink.lua: Heatsink: major cleanup, add grouping for Feral Charge |
| 21:05.59 | asmodai | Kaelten: hey you |
| 21:06.00 | LexSfX | by "months", i mean, "about an hour" |
| 21:06.40 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 043.0.3 * r101 : Tagging as 3.0.3. |
| 21:10.06 | Primer | Is there a library with zone speeds? |
| 21:10.28 | Primer | seems the hard-coded speed modifiers I have in my addon are not correct for some zones |
| 21:10.34 | LexSfX | TitanVector does it very well. not sure what it does though. |
| 21:11.00 | Primer | well, I basically took a data structure from another addon and put it in mine |
| 21:11.18 | LexSfX | you may want to check out TitanVector's code then |
| 21:11.24 | Primer | I already have the code |
| 21:11.31 | Primer | and it works |
| 21:11.33 | LexSfX | oh |
| 21:11.34 | AckisWork | is there an option in BT4 to specify which bar a posession bar takes over? |
| 21:11.35 | LexSfX | right |
| 21:11.45 | Primer | there's just a table of modifiers per zone |
| 21:11.50 | Repo | 10utopia: 03durcyn * r27 data.lua: |
| 21:11.50 | Repo | ninja-commit 3.0.3 fix for Earth and Moon going from 5 ranks to 3 |
| 21:11.55 | Primer | and it's broken for Stormwind |
| 21:12.24 | Primer | shat is still fine. I only ever tested my addon in shat |
| 21:12.30 | Primer | and outland, mostly |
| 21:12.38 | Primer | since it's mainly for flying |
| 21:12.49 | ShaneSveller | AckisWork: I think i remember seeing one |
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| 21:14.22 | AckisWork | ShaneSveller: same, just wasn't sure if it was 3 or 4 |
| 21:15.24 | Loonacy | Any Mac users out there know if there's a way to enable Cutting files in Finder? |
| 21:15.44 | pentium166 | urge to make emo joke rising |
| 21:17.06 | Repo | 10xrs: 03Nevcairiel * r189 / (2 files in 1 directory): The cake is a lie, and so is X-Package-Me |
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| 21:17.29 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 21:20.08 | ShaneSveller | Loonacy: do you just want a hotkey/context-menu option for moving stuff? |
| 21:21.28 | Loonacy | Yeah... just so i don't have to copy it then delete the original. |
| 21:22.24 | LexSfX | did Blizzard make the interface menu moveable!?!?! |
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| 21:23.07 | ShaneSveller | LexSfX: you might have LibBetterBlizzOptions loaded somewhere, somehow |
| 21:23.18 | ShaneSveller | a few addons have integrated that |
| 21:23.24 | Slayman | Question Regarding: Skinner why does it not load viewport on login? |
| 21:23.25 | LexSfX | it may be sexymap, which i just installed. |
| 21:23.32 | Antiarc | sexymap does that |
| 21:23.40 | LexSfX | ah, ok. |
| 21:23.42 | LexSfX | that's sexy. |
| 21:24.22 | Loonacy | It's like blizzard doesn't want you to use the default UI. |
| 21:24.47 | [dRaCo] | they don't |
| 21:25.47 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r12 / (5 files in 3 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 21:25.48 | Repo | Fixed Fubar Plugin and now no runtime errors |
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| 21:27.45 | ShaneSveller | can you give Linux the same behavior as OSX, so that if i drag or otherwise move a folder somewhere, it overwrites an existing one rather than merging with it? I actually like that in some cases |
| 21:27.58 | LexSfX | where's sexymap's mover for the pvp node control thingy? |
| 21:28.10 | Antiarc | It should be there |
| 21:28.15 | Antiarc | Maybe it won't if the mover doesn't exist yet |
| 21:28.26 | Antiarc | You may have to go activate a pvp capture bar to move it |
| 21:28.30 | LexSfX | ok. |
| 21:28.31 | Antiarc | That one's weird |
| 21:28.55 | AckisWork | @project glorynow |
| 21:28.55 | Repo | AckisWork: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/glorynow/. GloryNow. Game: WoW. Status: Waiting for file. Leader: Snaga. Updated: 2 minutes ago |
| 21:29.35 | Primer | Why are some people's text green and other's purple? |
| 21:29.42 | Primer | Not sure if it's an addon that does this |
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| 21:29.51 | Primer | it's light blue for people in my party/raid |
| 21:29.54 | Primer | that much I know |
| 21:30.10 | Primer | but I see no distinction between the purple vs. green people |
| 21:30.10 | Antiarc | What, names above their heads? |
| 21:30.13 | Primer | yeah |
| 21:30.19 | Antiarc | green means PVP flagged |
| 21:30.25 | Primer | ahhh |
| 21:30.28 | Fisker- | slaps Antiarc around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:31.20 | Daemona | and friendlist |
| 21:31.26 | Daemona | no? |
| 21:31.27 | Daemona | k |
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| 21:31.40 | Antiarc | Friend list is like a light greenish-blue |
| 21:32.35 | Daemona | hmpf |
| 21:32.45 | Daemona | stupid felguard elite... dont want to drop my draconic |
| 21:32.47 | Daemona | bastards |
| 21:36.20 | Bruners | Antiarc: wtb fix on my ticket |
| 21:36.28 | Antiarc | link ticket plz |
| 21:36.39 | Bruners | http://www.wowace.com/projects/chatter/tickets/14-editbox-polish-placement/ |
| 21:37.03 | Antiarc | Bruners: You can set it to "free floating" and move it to where you want to |
| 21:37.24 | Antiarc | Click and drag the sides to resize it horizontally while it's set to that |
| 21:37.25 | Bruners | Antiarc: i know, but that wont let it change with oPanel |
| 21:37.35 | Antiarc | hm |
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| 21:40.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1026 ARLFrame.lua: |
| 21:40.29 | Repo | Undisable the search button/clear button, need an edit text box |
| 21:40.45 | Daemona | hmm hmm |
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| 21:41.28 | Stanzilla | Grum: have you tried to fix the altnames module in chatter, yet? |
| 21:41.32 | Daemona | Herald of the Lich King yells: You may think you have won, worms, but against the might of the Lich King there is no victory for the living! You have not seen the last of me! |
| 21:41.38 | Daemona | here we go, next phase? |
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| 21:42.35 | Loonacy | Daemona: That's been going on since the beginning of the scourge invasion. |
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| 21:42.58 | Daemona | hmm really? never really noticed *cough* |
| 21:42.58 | Pneumatus | eastern kingdoms down! |
| 21:43.00 | Pneumatus | oh wait |
| 21:43.47 | Antiarc | So I'm thinking about making SexyUnitFrames |
| 21:43.56 | Antiarc | So that I can make my sexy retro unit frames without wanting to kill myself |
| 21:44.06 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1027 ARLFrame.lua: Fix error with tooltips |
| 21:44.32 | Bruners | c'thun is hard |
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| 21:46.16 | LexSfX | with a failraid, yup |
| 21:46.20 | Loonacy | Bruners: That's what she said? |
| 21:46.46 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: just fixup pitbull :P |
| 21:46.55 | Antiarc | Stanzilla: See, I have this problem |
| 21:47.03 | Antiarc | I have a bad case of Not Invented Here syndrome |
| 21:47.13 | Antiarc | Wherein I want to write everything over from scratch |
| 21:47.15 | Bruners | Antiarc: what questlog do you use? |
| 21:47.24 | Antiarc | QuestHelper, currently |
| 21:47.37 | Primer | I've created a macro that does: /cast Metamorphosis; /cast Immolation Aura |
| 21:47.39 | Daemona | thats not a questlog ;) |
| 21:47.42 | Loonacy | Antiarc: Make it so you can move party frames independently and i'll fall in love with you. |
| 21:47.45 | Antiarc | It has a quest log |
| 21:47.50 | Primer | but this reports "Must be in Metamorphosis" |
| 21:47.51 | Fisker- | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:47.55 | Antiarc | Loonacy: You can't do that due to the secure frames restrictions |
| 21:47.55 | Daemona | the default one antiarc |
| 21:47.56 | Primer | Meta is instant |
| 21:48.08 | Daemona | questhelper isnt modifying the questlog |
| 21:48.13 | Daemona | unless its broken for me ;) |
| 21:48.14 | Antiarc | Oh. Then I use the default. |
| 21:48.29 | Bruners | Antiarc: then i suggjest you make a new shiny good one :) |
| 21:48.30 | Primer | why doesn't the macro see that I'm in meta? Bad timing? |
| 21:48.36 | Daemona | and only stuff that modiefies it i use and know about is lightheaded |
| 21:48.38 | Primer | non-atomic? |
| 21:48.39 | Bruners | *suggest |
| 21:48.44 | Antiarc | But see |
| 21:48.47 | Antiarc | I don't level that much |
| 21:48.53 | Antiarc | And when I do I just use QuestHelper |
| 21:48.56 | Bruners | think you will soon enough |
| 21:49.10 | Loonacy | I currently just have a mod that catches party change events and rearranges my unit frames every time. |
| 21:49.19 | Fisker- | in hax we trust |
| 21:49.22 | Antiarc | It works in combat? |
| 21:49.34 | nevcairiel | QuestHelper is an abonimation |
| 21:49.37 | nevcairiel | its so buggy |
| 21:49.42 | nevcairiel | and its resource usage is insane |
| 21:49.54 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: Well yeah, but it's unmatched in features >_> |
| 21:49.58 | Antiarc | It's like Auctioneer |
| 21:50.01 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: it works and makes life easier |
| 21:50.03 | Bruners | i use uberquest |
| 21:50.06 | Bruners | its almost perfect |
| 21:50.09 | Antiarc | Horrid on your resources and a must-have anyway |
| 21:50.12 | nevcairiel | it makes you unable to read quest texts |
| 21:50.15 | Stanzilla | auctioneer! *shudders* |
| 21:50.26 | kenlyric | what would it make you unable to read quest texts? |
| 21:50.31 | kenlyric | yours might be broken |
| 21:50.47 | kadrahil | i don't use quest helper |
| 21:50.50 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: you havent been in the early days of the WotLK beta, have you |
| 21:50.51 | kadrahil | i just alt tab to firefox with joana's guide open |
| 21:51.11 | kenlyric | it's not the early days of the wotlk beta anymore. |
| 21:51.11 | kadrahil | :D |
| 21:51.18 | kenlyric | alt tab is for suckers from 2006 |
| 21:51.26 | kadrahil | :( |
| 21:51.31 | Pneumatus | dual monitors is the new alt-tab |
| 21:51.32 | Daemona | right, you play windowed with 2 monitors |
| 21:51.37 | Daemona | AND questhelper |
| 21:51.37 | kenlyric | I GO WHERE THE ARROW SAYS |
| 21:51.37 | kadrahil | yo i had 2 monitors ok |
| 21:51.47 | kadrahil | but then i built a new pc so i couldn't use my second monitor with my laptop anymore |
| 21:51.50 | Daemona | because questing is so boring, you have to watch a movie on the 2nd screen |
| 21:51.51 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: thats not the point, but thousands of peoples ran to northrend and failed on the easiest quests because there was no QH .. total fail =P |
| 21:52.02 | Repo | 10fubar_performancefu: 03Xinhuan * r142 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:52.02 | Repo | Remove tsvn:logtemplate. Add LibCrayon-3.0 and fix paths of many libraries in .pkgmeta |
| 21:52.08 | kadrahil | questing? boring? pfft :) |
| 21:52.09 | Daemona | nevcairiel and then came me and was stupid enough to upload my wtf.... |
| 21:52.10 | kenlyric | well, that's not the fault of QH |
| 21:52.13 | kenlyric | that's the fault of users. |
| 21:52.22 | Daemona | i saved the beta.... kinda ... not |
| 21:52.29 | nevcairiel | If there was no addon to cater stupidity, they might actually learn something |
| 21:52.32 | kadrahil | i have 4 days 33 minutes /played at 2 bars from 69 just questing |
| 21:52.37 | Pneumatus | the problem is more that so many tens of thousands of people use questhelper and dont read quests, not that QH stops people from readin them |
| 21:52.51 | Shot | nevcairiel: we can't have that! must put an end to the learning! |
| 21:52.51 | Daemona | yeah, the point is, my raidleader is one of those stupid people... |
| 21:52.55 | Antiarc | Northrend's quest texts are quite good |
| 21:53.12 | kenlyric | because they've done the quests 300 times before |
| 21:53.15 | Daemona | and before i start explaining quests to him... i rather have him download an addon and have him bitch about low fps |
| 21:53.22 | Daemona | because i then can ignore him safely |
| 21:53.29 | kenlyric | I wouldn't really use questhelper on a first time through |
| 21:53.34 | nevcairiel | Daemona: just let him figure it out on his own |
| 21:53.38 | nevcairiel | thats what i do |
| 21:53.46 | AckisWork | the main thing I used QH for was dailies and alts |
| 21:53.50 | kenlyric | though I would use tourguide, because blizzard sucks at grouping quests together properly. |
| 21:53.51 | nevcairiel | "Too lazy to read quest texts? then i'm too lazy to talk to you" |
| 21:53.55 | Daemona | dont you know those people that just cant shut up and start over all more whiny? |
| 21:53.55 | Shot | i don't think my gf would even play the game if tourguide didn't exist |
| 21:53.56 | Daemona | ... |
| 21:54.20 | nevcairiel | kenlyric: thats much better in Northrend, didnt have real issues combining/chaining quests |
| 21:54.31 | nevcairiel | without TG |
| 21:54.49 | Daemona | and my favourite is when he (native german) starts to read the quest names loud in ventrilo ... using the english game ... what does xyz mean, where is xxx? ... |
| 21:54.58 | kadrahil | i really miss the sound effect while mounting |
| 21:55.01 | kadrahil | the little swishy thing |
| 21:55.12 | Repo | 10bank-items-fu: 03Xinhuan * r38 .pkgmeta: Fix .pkgmeta paths. |
| 21:55.30 | Dashkal | Daemona: and you follow this guy? O.o |
| 21:55.53 | nevcairiel | people like that should really play in german |
| 21:55.56 | nevcairiel | and stop being stupid |
| 21:55.59 | Daemona | he is one of those stupid people, that cant do shit, but is charismatic enough to keep 25 idiots together |
| 21:56.02 | nevcairiel | and really stop being raid leader |
| 21:56.07 | Bruners | they should just do what warhammer got |
| 21:56.14 | Bruners | red zones on the map for where you got quests to do |
| 21:57.05 | Thrae | Bruners: You're forgetting that PvE is a simple timesink in WAR, while it's the core game of WoW. |
| 21:57.05 | Dashkal | Daemona: ahh, high cha, now wis, gotcha. Useful, but frustrating |
| 21:57.43 | Daemona | exactly |
| 21:58.11 | Daemona | great quit msg! (for those who understand german ;) |
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| 21:58.17 | Repo | 10fu-bar_routes-fu: 03Xinhuan * r41 .pkgmeta: Update .pkgmeta paths. |
| 21:58.36 | nevcairiel | i've seen better |
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| 21:58.46 | AckisWork | nein |
| 21:58.52 | AckisWork | (see what I did there?) |
| 21:58.59 | Loonacy | I see what you did there. |
| 21:59.06 | Daemona | you google'd for the german equivalent of no? |
| 21:59.10 | Bruners | Thrae: that means they cant have red zones on the map? |
| 21:59.22 | AckisWork | Daemona: that's the one german word I know |
| 21:59.28 | Thrae | Bruners: Not Profitable to invest money in reducing a timesink |
| 21:59.32 | doom0r | wtf |
| 21:59.37 | doom0r | they gave pallys free mounts |
| 21:59.41 | doom0r | (read: no work) |
| 21:59.43 | Daemona | ok, learn this: Trockener Quelltext |
| 21:59.52 | Daemona | you got 1 guess whats it about. |
| 21:59.53 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: you funny americans use some more german words, probably without even really noticing it :P |
| 21:59.54 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 07master * v1.2.5-1-g45bdbe6 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] fixed Turbo-Charged Flying Machine damn you blizzard and your inconsistent tooltips |
| 22:00.02 | Repo | 10mounted: 03yssaril 04v1.3.1 * 19a33c0 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.3.1 |
| 22:00.09 | Bruners | Thrae: everyone and their granddad are using coords and wowhead/* |
| 22:00.15 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: I'm not american thank you very much |
| 22:00.24 | SunTsu | Daemona: That's a dead giveaway for Ackis ;) |
| 22:00.34 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: the continent is called america, so uh? |
| 22:00.39 | Thrae | Bruners: Translation -- people smart enough to know how to install and use addons. This is not a large population. |
| 22:00.55 | LexSfX | is sexymap supposed to "squish" against the edge of the screen if you drag it too far? and when it does that, is the player icon in it supposed to move away from where my character actually is on the map? |
| 22:01.05 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: but I'm not american :P There's probably a lot of words derived from german, just like there are with latin/french words |
| 22:01.12 | winkiller | anyone tried to access the login-protected armory features via any code? |
| 22:02.00 | Daemona | no, but thats because i have no any key on my keyboard *whistles* |
| 22:02.08 | Chompers | Saroz? |
| 22:02.10 | Chompers | you about |
| 22:03.00 | Primer | Anyone here good with macros? Why does this not work as expected: /cast Metamorphosis (newline) /cast Immolation Aura? The first is instant, the second instant cast. The macro reports "Must be in meta form". Is there a ways to slow down the casting of the second one? |
| 22:03.00 | NeoTron | doom0r: zomg they gave droods free epic flight form wtflol |
| 22:03.05 | NeoTron | doom0r: aka, who cares? |
| 22:03.06 | Antiarc | LexSfX: That's a Blizzard minimap problem, I'm afraid |
| 22:03.07 | Xinhuan | "Abandoning project: By abandoning this project you agree that it can be picked up and maintained by other people." |
| 22:03.08 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 22:03.19 | Xinhuan | so i can't abandon a project |
| 22:03.33 | nevcairiel | sure you can |
| 22:03.34 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:03.34 | doom0r | they no longer have to do the quest line |
| 22:03.39 | LexSfX | Antiarc: i don't think it happened if i dragged simpleminimap off the screen |
| 22:03.44 | NeoTron | doom0r: I fully know what it means. good I say |
| 22:03.47 | Antiarc | LexSfX: It does |
| 22:03.50 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Wowace now forces you into a specific license. |
| 22:03.54 | Antiarc | (I used to use simpleMinimap, too) |
| 22:03.54 | nevcairiel | you just have to agree that someone could pick it up if he wants to continue it |
| 22:04.01 | LexSfX | Antiarc: ok, i guess i just never tried it. |
| 22:04.09 | Xinhuan | well i want to "abandon" cartographer_routes |
| 22:04.19 | Xinhuan | but i don't want anyone to pick it up |
| 22:04.21 | Arrowmaster | just delete it |
| 22:04.28 | *** join/#wowace shadowfaux_ (n=shadowfa@host86-143-129-54.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:04.41 | ckknight | Xinhuan: just change your description to say that people can't pick it up and point to Routes |
| 22:04.44 | nevcairiel | there is no reason for anyone to continue it, there isnt even a way currently for people to find abandoned addons |
| 22:04.46 | winkiller | Daemona: actually I meant I don't care about language or anything, but thanks for at least trying to sound concerned :P |
| 22:04.54 | ckknight | Xinhuan: if someone wants to unabandon a mod, they have to talk to a moderator anyway |
| 22:04.56 | Xinhuan | ckknight: the description already does that for half a year ;p |
| 22:05.00 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so abandoning a project automatically means it'll become open sourced with a free for all license? That doesn't make much sense? |
| 22:05.00 | Saroz | Chompers |
| 22:05.01 | Bruners | Xinhuan: delete all the files |
| 22:05.02 | ckknight | yea, just abandon it. |
| 22:05.06 | ckknight | don't worry so much |
| 22:05.09 | ckknight | Bruners: no |
| 22:05.12 | Xinhuan | right |
| 22:05.23 | |Yssaril| | Antiarc: can you make the zone name block appear above the sexymap artwork (or a slider to adjust its strata) |
| 22:05.23 | *** join/#wowace shadowfaux__ (n=shadowfa@host86-143-129-54.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:05.41 | ckknight | Xinhuan: since it requires moderator approval to unabandon something, we'll treat you fine |
| 22:05.41 | Antiarc | I don't have a strata adjuster, but I can add one |
| 22:05.50 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: as ckk said, they have to talk to an Moderator before picking it up anyway |
| 22:05.51 | Xinhuan | if anyone picks it up, i can just force abandon it ;p |
| 22:05.58 | |Yssaril| | Antiarc: it be nice :) |
| 22:05.59 | Xinhuan | since i'm a moderator ;p |
| 22:06.08 | AckisWork | picks it up |
| 22:06.11 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:06.15 | Dashkal | Bruners: If someone (on CF, I don't mod wowace) asks me to unabandon a mod with a big message saying "This is dead and nobody can pick it up" I'm not gonna push the button :p |
| 22:07.20 | LexSfX | Antiarc: i'd also like the ability to adjust the strata of various elements (especially the calendar button, so it could overlap the chat frame if i hover over the minimap) |
| 22:07.20 | Thrae | Xinhuan: Leave it in their hands. Don't worry. Everything will be fine. It's not like someone will find the project 2 years later and recode it in such a horrible (zany?) fashion it launches nuclear missiles onto China and starts WWIII. All that, and give you full credit. |
| 22:07.20 | Antiarc | I'll see about adding strata sliders |
| 22:07.21 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r663 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Chinese locale updates: pdi001 |
| 22:07.23 | Xinhuan | strata sliders? |
| 22:07.23 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan sending nukes to china, what an irony! :) |
| 22:07.29 | |Yssaril| | Antiarc: also can you simply free all minimap buttons from the minimap so you can drag them anywhere? |
| 22:07.45 | Thrae | Yeah, he may want to watch out. |
| 22:07.49 | ckknight | we should change the abandon message... |
| 22:07.52 | Antiarc | Hrm. |
| 22:07.57 | Antiarc | I could add a freeform dragger, I guess. |
| 22:07.57 | ckknight | I dunno, that's mostly Kaelten's call |
| 22:08.09 | Xinhuan | when renaming a project's shortname, it should auto rename all .pkgmeta on all projects that refer to it, imo |
| 22:08.22 | Saroz | Chompers? |
| 22:08.35 | ckknight | Xinhuan: technically if you reference a project that has been renamed, it handles it smartly |
| 22:08.37 | |Yssaril| | not sure if possible but i never understood why people went to all the trouble of making the buttons slide around all the different shapes of minimaps just drag them whereever you want :) |
| 22:08.46 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: shortnames should generally never be renamed, unless there is a real good reason for it |
| 22:08.52 | nevcairiel | there is a reason only mods can do it =P |
| 22:08.55 | Xinhuan | i just fixed library paths |
| 22:09.00 | Xinhuan | of several stuff ~_~ |
| 22:09.18 | Xinhuan | so ckknight, i need your permission to tag performance_Fu |
| 22:09.25 | ckknight | go hog wild |
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| 22:10.24 | Xinhuan | hmm it has no tags |
| 22:11.41 | waallen | is there any addon that gives information about how many stacks of one item you've got in your inventory when mousehovering it? |
| 22:11.42 | Repo | 10fubar_performancefu: 03Xinhuan * r143 FuBar_PerformanceFu.toc: Update TOC. |
| 22:12.03 | *** join/#wowace TheDeamon_ (i=TheDeamo@69-20-145-84.static.ida.net) |
| 22:12.12 | Repo | 10fubar_performancefu: 03Xinhuan 04v2.0.0 * r144 : Tag v2.0.0 |
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| 22:13.47 | Toadkiller | yes i think bagnon does |
| 22:14.05 | waallen | thanks |
| 22:14.19 | ulic | waallen: a bit of over kill, but bankitems does it too, and it includes stuff in the bank. |
| 22:14.19 | Toadkiller | It also tells you how much is in bags / bank, and for all characters on that realm |
| 22:15.15 | doom0r | waallen: bagnon, sanity, many more |
| 22:15.17 | Toadkiller | The only thing missing imo is tracking mail between alts... |
| 22:15.51 | Daemona | uuuh arkinventory does *cough* |
| 22:16.01 | waallen | Going to check them out, I've been stashing stuff to level mining/BS for my DK and having such an addon would make tracking mats easier |
| 22:16.09 | Toadkiller | Really? Will it tell me when mail is about to expire? |
| 22:16.24 | doom0r | Toadkiller: the mailbox does that ;x |
| 22:16.28 | Daemona | no, but you can work around that by mailing stuff always FROM your main |
| 22:16.39 | Daemona | and have an additional 30 days |
| 22:16.48 | Daemona | because you are much more to notice it in your mains mailbox |
| 22:16.55 | Daemona | than in the one of a mule you rarely log |
| 22:16.57 | winkiller | possessions! |
| 22:17.05 | winkiller | my mules are all level 60-70 |
| 22:17.11 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 22:17.15 | winkiller | not exactly logging em rarely :P |
| 22:17.27 | Xinhuan | technically, i don't need performance_fu, since i use OptionlessHouse heh |
| 22:17.30 | Toadkiller | I dont have mules, just bankers. They belong to "The Money Tree LLC" |
| 22:17.35 | Xinhuan | but OptionlessHouse's window is just too big |
| 22:17.48 | Primer | heh, lower ranks of Holy Nova cost MORE mana than higher ranks |
| 22:17.57 | nevcairiel | I only use Broker_SysMon for a generic overview now, and look at OptionlessHouse for details |
| 22:17.59 | nevcairiel | works for me |
| 22:18.14 | nevcairiel | anyway, next try for me to leave, bye |
| 22:18.23 | EthanCentaurai | good night nev :) |
| 22:18.31 | Toadkiller | haha nite |
| 22:19.17 | Xinhuan | Primer: all lower ranks of ALL spells cost more mana |
| 22:19.20 | Xinhuan | than max rank |
| 22:19.42 | Primer | so much for lower ranks of aoe to expose stealth... |
| 22:19.45 | Xinhuan | i outright reject requests to make one stack of every rank of food/drinks |
| 22:19.51 | Xinhuan | for that achievement |
| 22:20.13 | Xinhuan | i go oom by rank 6 |
| 22:20.34 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r24 / (2 files in 1 directory): Testing '@project-version@' |
| 22:21.03 | Shot | i still don't really understand the downranked spells costing more mana |
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| 22:21.22 | Shot | or even just that lower ranks cost more mana at all, i can't see any sense to it |
| 22:21.38 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: evocate? |
| 22:21.40 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:21.55 | Xinhuan | no you can just go fuck off, i'm not a vending machine :) |
| 22:22.29 | NeoTron | Shot: the main question is why there even ARE lower rank spells available |
| 22:22.33 | Shot | in 3.0.3, mages arcane missiles mana cost updated to 31% base mana for "higher ranks", 37% base mana for "lower ranks" |
| 22:22.38 | Shot | yes, that too |
| 22:22.47 | NeoTron | they could just be removed now |
| 22:23.01 | Shot | i could almost understand if they cost the same amount of mana |
| 22:23.05 | NeoTron | although there's one major exception - rank 1 vs rank 2 banish |
| 22:23.10 | NeoTron | sometimes you want the lower duration |
| 22:23.17 | Shot | but hardly any spells have that sort of difference |
| 22:23.23 | Xinhuan | rank 1 frostbolt costs more than max rank, you know? |
| 22:23.25 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: you're a water cooler, not a vending machine ;) |
| 22:23.29 | Odlaw | lawl.. for more mana, the raid can screw themselves if they want somethin banished shorter |
| 22:23.33 | charon | i figure it's to make it harder to help lowbies |
| 22:23.35 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: threat |
| 22:23.51 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: sometimes you want to slow the target, without producing a large amount of threat |
| 22:23.54 | Xinhuan | 344 mana (rank 1-12), vs 279 mana (rank 13/14) |
| 22:23.54 | NeoTron | Odlaw: it's not like the cost of banish every is an issue |
| 22:24.00 | Shot | charon: yes, it does make it harder - but why do they want to do that? |
| 22:24.09 | Gnarfoz | did anyone put some stuff to ignore pre-3.0 SavedVariables into PitBull? :X |
| 22:24.09 | NeoTron | the main issue with banish is taht you can't refresh it prematurely, nor break it |
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| 22:24.25 | Odlaw | blah.. i'd still not use anything but rank 2.. why should i have to waste another bar slot for it |
| 22:24.26 | charon | shrugs |
| 22:24.27 | NivFreak | I wish you could purge banish |
| 22:24.27 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 22:24.29 | Xinhuan | lua> 344/279 |
| 22:24.30 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1.2329749103943 |
| 22:24.38 | Xinhuan | 23% more mana lol |
| 22:24.42 | Shot | Gnarfoz: my saved vars were fine |
| 22:24.42 | KriLL3 | I wounder if the long US downtime was politically motivated, think about it, shut down the wow servers during election day and Obama gets a lot more votes =P |
| 22:24.47 | NeoTron | should be a warlock only ability to remove your own banish prematurely, and should be renewable! |
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| 22:25.06 | Gnarfoz | Shot: hmm I wonder how mine got reset, then :D |
| 22:25.08 | NeoTron | KriLL3: that's so.. not very likely at all :P |
| 22:25.09 | Odlaw | lawl.. then the mages would cry that they are the only ones who should remove their sheep |
| 22:25.25 | Odlaw | and i KNOW I would cry for my hunter's trap |
| 22:25.43 | Odlaw | only i should break my trap :) |
| 22:25.47 | Shot | remove != break |
| 22:25.51 | NeoTron | not exactly the same |
| 22:26.14 | *** part/#wowace Nosrac1 (n=nosrac@216.229.21.4) |
| 22:26.58 | Toadkiller | So I am looking to replace FuBar_QuestsFu. It seems ill maintained and I want a broker based thing anyway. I have a gigantic monitor in 2560 x 1600 resolution so it cannot be a tiny 1/32 of the screen like the blizzard thing. Any recommendations? |
| 22:28.33 | fry | I'd recommend trying QuestGuru |
| 22:29.20 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: just saying =P |
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| 22:30.11 | Toadkiller | That looks perfecr, thanks fry |
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| 22:31.09 | LexSfX | i love 18-minute heroic mgt clears. :D |
| 22:31.37 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 22:31.41 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 18h 15m 55s ago, saying: 'that was really complicated for some reason'. |
| 22:31.42 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): More testing '@project-version@' |
| 22:31.42 | KriLL3 | can you hide/show guru automatically on updates on objectives or keybind etc? |
| 22:31.42 | NivFreak | yea, just pull the first boss + entire room |
| 22:31.43 | NivFreak | to save time |
| 22:31.45 | KriLL3 | would be cool to have but no all the time |
| 22:32.10 | Loonacy | I just realized I still had rank 1 drain soul on my warlock's bar. Blah. |
| 22:32.18 | KriLL3 | I last ran HC MGT with a team with mostly blue/greens |
| 22:32.31 | KriLL3 | a couple of totem pulls and the CC was... interesting |
| 22:32.39 | LexSfX | we didn't cc anything just now. |
| 22:32.43 | LexSfX | just aoed it all down. lol. |
| 22:32.54 | LexSfX | yay for feral druids and ret pallies. :D |
| 22:33.29 | KriLL3 | boomkin in blues/greens, elemental shaman in blues/purples + full points marksman hunter that didn't seem to know how to use bars |
| 22:33.46 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r13 / (4 files in 2 directories): EasyDKP: - |
| 22:33.47 | Repo | updates prior to using AceHook |
| 22:33.59 | KriLL3 | I swear he must use the spellbook |
| 22:34.16 | KriLL3 | everytime he had to switch spell to cast it took a couple of seconds |
| 22:34.37 | LexSfX | aww, the poor idiot. |
| 22:34.57 | KriLL3 | me multied the second I fearie fired also... |
| 22:35.19 | Toadkiller | Or its Stephen Hawking's hunter... |
| 22:35.23 | LexSfX | he thought he had misdirection up? :O |
| 22:35.39 | KriLL3 | LexSfX: he didn't use it once |
| 22:35.43 | LexSfX | roflcopter |
| 22:35.58 | LexSfX | gotta love those masses of huntards. |
| 22:36.17 | Toadkiller | easy to level, hard to play |
| 22:36.38 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): EasyDKP: - |
| 22:36.39 | Repo | Added AceHook |
| 22:37.09 | LexSfX | "You can get to 70 really fast! Play a hunter!" what they don't tell you is that you won't know how to play your class when you get there. |
| 22:37.13 | Arrowmaster | "Blood Fury: No longer triggers global cooldown." YAY I CAN ADD IT BACK INTO MY MACRO! |
| 22:37.25 | LexSfX | haha, yeah, i was pleased about that, Arrowmaster. :) |
| 22:37.41 | Arrowmaster | so fucking annoying having to remove it from my trinket macro |
| 22:38.27 | Zhinjio | Toadkiller: I still use nquestlog |
| 22:38.52 | Zhinjio | where the heck did orionshock go. something broke guildcraft |
| 22:38.53 | KriLL3 | would be nice if some druid stuff was off GCD |
| 22:38.58 | KriLL3 | all of our stuff in on GCD |
| 22:39.13 | KriLL3 | fearie fire, tiger's fury and our survival instincts copy comes to mind |
| 22:39.15 | Thrae | KriLL3: Blame Moonfire being so awesome. |
| 22:39.33 | Daemona | really, only O SHIT stuff should be off GCD |
| 22:39.35 | KriLL3 | moonfire should be on GCD ofc, but that's a damage spell, not a self buff |
| 22:39.36 | NeoTron | moonfire should be off the GCD with no cooldown |
| 22:39.47 | NeoTron | and then all other spells could be removed |
| 22:40.06 | Thrae | Moonfire should instantly cause the enemy's death. |
| 22:40.12 | AckisWork | lua> "fooo ":trim() |
| 22:40.12 | lua_bot | AckisWork: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"fooo "' |
| 22:40.14 | Arrowmaster | bloodfury has been off the global cooldown since atleast the patch they changed it to give spellpower for casters instead of attack power |
| 22:40.38 | KriLL3 | I only moonfire spam if I'm heavily locked down or it's a rogue using evasion that's really close to dying etc |
| 22:40.45 | KriLL3 | otherwise I never use it |
| 22:40.56 | KriLL3 | but I'm feral |
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| 22:41.06 | KriLL3 | guess bal/resto use it a lot more |
| 22:41.23 | Thrae | 99% of client and server lag is due to the amount of actions that need to be negotiated every millisecond. This can be eliminated if all players can instantly kill each other and other mobs. |
| 22:41.56 | KriLL3 | Thrae: they tried that with retribution paladins, didn't seem to go well |
| 22:41.56 | Thrae | Then we can finally get full resources to focus on the real core of the game -- winning random rolls! |
| 22:41.57 | Loonacy | Moonfire should instantly cause the caster's death. |
| 22:42.18 | NivFreak | hah |
| 22:42.30 | KriLL3 | Loonacy: all melee dps classes got a throw/ranged weapon, moonfire is the equalent of that for ferals |
| 22:42.45 | Xinhuan | ckknight, i don't think my tag of your performance_fu got pushed to curse |
| 22:42.46 | Loonacy | KriLL3: Paladins. |
| 22:42.54 | KriLL3 | hammer of wtfpwn |
| 22:43.03 | KriLL3 | + joj, they don't really need ranged attacks |
| 22:43.07 | Belazor | ... |
| 22:43.15 | Belazor | Wow you're ignorant XD |
| 22:43.26 | ckknight | Xinhuan: how long ago did you do that? |
| 22:43.37 | Xinhuan | 29 min ago? |
| 22:43.45 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar_performancefu/ |
| 22:43.47 | Xinhuan | shows up here though |
| 22:43.48 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:43.53 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fubar_performancefu.aspx |
| 22:43.53 | Loonacy | KriLL3: But you said ALL melee dps classes... I'm just nitpicking. |
| 22:43.54 | Xinhuan | not on curse |
| 22:43.56 | Belazor | We want ranged PULLS, and Hammer of Wrath isn't for pulling unless you're saying mobs start out below 20% health |
| 22:44.06 | KriLL3 | Lonny`afk: well they have a ranged attack... |
| 22:44.09 | Repo | 10benecast: 03Wintrow2 * r102 / (6 files in 1 directory): Intermediate upload |
| 22:44.13 | harl | is there an actively maintained alternative to add-ons like QuestAnnounce, QuestAnnouncer or PartyToGo? |
| 22:44.16 | KriLL3 | who cares about pulls? |
| 22:44.24 | Belazor | People who play a Paladin |
| 22:44.28 | Loonacy | <-- Pally tank, cares about pulls. |
| 22:44.31 | KriLL3 | all paladins are retri atm |
| 22:44.40 | Belazor | And retri shouldn't get to tag mobs? |
| 22:44.49 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC94751.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 22:44.53 | KriLL3 | well retri isn't a tanking spec, that I know |
| 22:44.55 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: /poke |
| 22:44.59 | Toadkiller | omg omg bash will now interrupt! |
| 22:44.59 | Shadowed | mmm? |
| 22:45.03 | Gnarfoz | ~seen sylvanaar |
| 22:45.04 | purl | sylvanaar <n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5d 18h 29m 18s ago, saying: 'that was really complicated for some reason'. |
| 22:45.11 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:45.13 | harl | ~help |
| 22:45.16 | Gnarfoz | someone else doing work on prat-3.0? |
| 22:45.17 | doom0r | KriLL3: no |
| 22:45.25 | doom0r | i've been prot since 70 |
| 22:45.51 | *** join/#wowace Ithato (n=shane@lennon-ubr-st-64-85-159-209.power-net.net) |
| 22:45.53 | KriLL3 | kinda funny atm, a ton of people looking for MTs and me in my S4 feral gear + pvp talents get to raid every day =P |
| 22:46.08 | KriLL3 | was MT in kara, gruul, magma, ZA yesterday |
| 22:46.12 | Gnarfoz | oh but wait, pve is for idiots |
| 22:46.19 | Thrae | Protection Paladins have 3x the Protection regular Paladins have. Translation: Bubble cooldown is decreased by 300%. |
| 22:46.20 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1028 / (2 files in 2 directories): Ackis Recipe List: |
| 22:46.21 | Repo | - Started search gui integration |
| 22:46.21 | KriLL3 | well it's kinda fun |
| 22:46.21 | Repo | - Dry-coded (Compiles with luac -p) |
| 22:46.27 | Ithato | Gnarfoz: wouldn' |
| 22:46.28 | Gnarfoz | duh and that from *you* |
| 22:46.38 | Ithato | wouldn't* you be happier playing WAR if that's how you feel? |
| 22:46.55 | Gnarfoz | Ithato: hi new user #256 |
| 22:47.01 | Toadkiller | Ackis needs to let us know when it is NOT drycoded. |
| 22:47.14 | Gnarfoz | Ithato: KriLL3 has, in the past, been kind of vocal about his distaste of PvE, I was just giving him a hard time ;) |
| 22:47.28 | Aii | Toadkiller: if he did that he'd not have enough to put in his commit messages :P |
| 22:47.38 | AckisWork | Toadkiller: nah :P |
| 22:47.46 | AckisWork | I'm hurt aii :( :P lol |
| 22:47.52 | Thrae | Don't play WAR. It's all satisfying PvP. We all like to do the same encounters over and over again in hopes of the Goddess of Fortune shining down on us. |
| 22:47.53 | Ithato | Gnarfoz: sorry, i'll keep me trap shut until I actually know what i talk about. it'll be a first for me. |
| 22:47.54 | Gnarfoz | why does the default UI lack the possibility of coloring incoming and outgoing whispers differently? :< |
| 22:47.59 | Gnarfoz | Ithato: ;p |
| 22:48.19 | ckknight | WAR's pretty shiny |
| 22:48.25 | Toadkiller | lol |
| 22:48.34 | doom0r | i'm shiny when i shave |
| 22:48.34 | AckisWork | anyone have an example of a button that when you click it, it brings up a drop-down menu that you can select an option from? |
| 22:48.38 | ulic | Gnarfoz: it doesn't lake that, I do it. |
| 22:48.43 | ulic | *lack |
| 22:48.49 | Gnarfoz | ulic: using Chatter? :p |
| 22:49.11 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: oh, meh didn't even see your pong because of no highlight. the cooldown for "Kick" (the rogue ability) is showing under buffs for me in Afflicted2 :\ |
| 22:49.24 | Toadkiller | Ackis: AutoBarTest has a bunch of stuff including popups of other buttons ... |
| 22:49.29 | KriLL3 | well pve is fun, but it's all about knowing the place beforehand, so it's hard if you get into it after it's new and shiny |
| 22:49.31 | ulic | no, color settings for the message types from the standard chat message color picker. I changed it awhile ago. Guess they could have removed it, but it's unlikely. |
| 22:49.42 | KriLL3 | kara for example is a nightmare to navigate if you're there for the first time |
| 22:49.47 | KriLL3 | pvp is a lot more dynamic |
| 22:50.05 | Gnarfoz | ulic: no setting for incoming whispers there, I just looked and was confused to not find it :\ |
| 22:50.10 | Toadkiller | kara is fine. Its brd thats an ungodly maze |
| 22:50.16 | KriLL3 | both are |
| 22:50.21 | Arrowmaster | they are both fine |
| 22:50.28 | KriLL3 | though kara is what? 9 floors |
| 22:50.30 | ulic | Gnarfoz: I'll look tonight, as I recall it wasn't as obvious as I thought it should be. |
| 22:50.38 | Gnarfoz | they are not fine only and only if you've got a really short attention span :p |
| 22:50.41 | Tentacled | Now how nice. I got suspended as "suspected account security compromised" temporarily for 3 hours. Hmm. Do any of you have any experience with being supposedly "helpfully protected against keyloggers" as a prevention measure, in case of suspected channel spam activity? |
| 22:50.41 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: not if you're there for the first time and has no idea where to go |
| 22:50.45 | *** join/#wowace LePeR666 (n=me@d36-228-25.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 22:51.18 | Gnarfoz | ~wowalert |
| 22:51.19 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 22:51.27 | Ithato | AckisWork: DagAssist from WoWInt does that |
| 22:51.28 | doom0r | farming, i assume frost still has great advantage over arcane? |
| 22:51.32 | KriLL3 | it should either have signposts or a map with better explanation of how the floors and entrances connect |
| 22:51.44 | KriLL3 | or it should be one directional |
| 22:52.21 | Xinhuan | doom0r: yes |
| 22:52.27 | doom0r | k |
| 22:52.31 | doom0r | heads off to build a spec |
| 22:52.38 | Xinhuan | just go 0/0/61 |
| 22:52.39 | KriLL3 | just saying, when you're at the enterance you should be able to go to boss X without the forehand knowledge of where that is exactly |
| 22:52.40 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if i could multithread my svn update script |
| 22:52.50 | Xinhuan | and make sure yu have all the talents that make Blizzard as good as possible |
| 22:52.58 | *** join/#wowace Mytos (n=nate@c-76-99-111-229.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 22:53.02 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: but then, that's boring. :P |
| 22:53.11 | Zhinjio | Torhal: ping |
| 22:53.12 | KriLL3 | btw druids: save your build or memorize it, it's getting wiped |
| 22:53.25 | Mytos | it already got wiped |
| 22:53.27 | Xinhuan | -85% speed, every tick can proc Fingers of frost, which makes your next 2 blizzard's +50% chance to crit, every tick 15% frostbite, etc |
| 22:53.34 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: I don't mean make it a short part and 100% obvious, just point the general way or something, instead of nothing |
| 22:53.40 | KriLL3 | Mytos: not in EU |
| 22:53.41 | Xinhuan | so pretty much 2-3 blizzards can kill any pack of mobs and they can't even move |
| 22:53.54 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: well. in karazhan, there's 3 ways to go from the entrance. all lead to a boss. :\ |
| 22:54.15 | KriLL3 | but you have no idea how to get to boss X without having been there a couple of times before |
| 22:54.31 | KriLL3 | and there is a lot of backtracking etc |
| 22:54.33 | Gnarfoz | well, you can't go to boss X without going to boss A B C first, anyway |
| 22:54.39 | KriLL3 | you can |
| 22:54.44 | Arrowmaster | no you cant |
| 22:54.52 | Arrowmaster | and theres not really any backtracking |
| 22:54.53 | Gnarfoz | you can't, and IF you can, than it's no problem either |
| 22:55.04 | Gnarfoz | *then |
| 22:55.05 | KriLL3 | most instances/raids are linear, you can take any number of routes in kara |
| 22:55.16 | Gnarfoz | about 2 routes |
| 22:55.16 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 22:55.23 | Gnarfoz | go to attumen or don't go to attumen |
| 22:55.24 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 22:55.30 | Xinhuan | the first 3 bosses in kara are optional, only Opera is not |
| 22:55.32 | Gnarfoz | skip maiden or don't skip maiden |
| 22:55.33 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: you go into the stables, then all the way back to the enternace, then you go up to moreos, then back again to the dancers etc |
| 22:55.38 | Xinhuan | which is usually the "4th" boss |
| 22:55.43 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: moroes isn't optional |
| 22:55.50 | Arrowmaster | actually afaik moroes is required to do opera |
| 22:55.50 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: you could go further through the stables, too. no need to backtrack |
| 22:55.54 | Xinhuan | it is? |
| 22:55.56 | Xinhuan | why? |
| 22:56.05 | doom0r | o.O never saw this brain freeze talent before |
| 22:56.06 | KriLL3 | you don't go from the boss room to the next trash etc, you go back to a central room etc |
| 22:56.15 | KriLL3 | Gnarfoz: more trash |
| 22:56.18 | mort | without killing moroes the theater event doesnt start |
| 22:56.23 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 22:56.28 | KriLL3 | and you have to go outside to get to the next boss quickly after opera |
| 22:56.29 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: you have to kill moroes so you can talk to the guy for the theatre event |
| 22:56.34 | Arrowmaster | no you dont |
| 22:56.34 | Gnarfoz | KriLL3: so? you were complaining about *having* to do stuff you don't actually *have* to do. ;) |
| 22:56.47 | KriLL3 | just saying, it's easier to have a linear instance |
| 22:56.47 | Arrowmaster | its silly to go outside |
| 22:56.51 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r15 / (3 files in 1 directory): EasyDKP: - |
| 22:56.53 | Repo | removed acehook |
| 22:56.54 | KriLL3 | instead of a sprawling mess |
| 22:57.05 | JensRex | I suddenly remembered why I got tired of WoW. |
| 22:57.26 | JensRex | Stupid and retarded guild politics and power-crazy officers. |
| 22:57.31 | JensRex | Rules for the sake of rules. |
| 22:57.38 | AckisWork | KriLL3: MC, wasn't 100% linear, BWL, wasn't 100% linear, Naxx wasn't linear, AQ40 was linear, SSC/TK, no linear, BT not linear, hyjal super linear, sunwell, linear |
| 22:57.39 | Gnarfoz | ulic: you *are* right, in some way. there are SavedVariables for both kinds of whisper... yet no way to set both. :X |
| 22:57.51 | Toadkiller | omg why not just ask for a big room then and you have a menu to pick bosses to fight from. No need to go anywhere... |
| 22:58.06 | Mytos | JensRex: thats why im glad theyre making it all possible to do in 10mans |
| 22:58.11 | KriLL3 | AckisWork: I remember MC as mostly linear, BWL totally linear |
| 22:58.14 | Thrae | "OK, let's do this Guild Vote again...and this time, McCain had better NOT win." |
| 22:58.18 | Gnarfoz | JensRex: change guild, problem potentially solved |
| 22:58.18 | Mytos | that way if you just wanna see the end you only need 10 friends not a whole guild |
| 22:58.24 | JY` | bwl not linear ? |
| 22:58.39 | KriLL3 | you had to do all bosses and each boss was in a room behind the other |
| 22:58.46 | KriLL3 | that's the definition of linear |
| 22:58.49 | Gnarfoz | the 3 drakes ;) |
| 22:59.00 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 22:59.00 | JensRex | Been changing guilds a lot. Either they're retarded (like this), they get nothing done. or they just eventually disband. |
| 22:59.04 | KriLL3 | sorry was some time ago |
| 22:59.04 | Arrowmaster | JY`: chromag doesnt fit KriLL3's definition of linear |
| 22:59.06 | Gnarfoz | didn't have to them in any order if you could pull them ;) |
| 22:59.08 | AckisWork | KriLL3: you could do luci/mag first/last, skip shazz/geddon, do golemag/last duder in either order... bwl you could do the drakes in any order you wanted and sometimes you did chromaggus first |
| 22:59.12 | JY` | mmh |
| 22:59.20 | Xinhuan | aq40 has 3 optinal bosses |
| 22:59.27 | Xinhuan | bug trio, visc, ouro |
| 22:59.28 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: ping |
| 22:59.30 | KriLL3 | AckisWork: by linear I mean the layout of the place, not the order of bosses |
| 22:59.35 | Antiarc | pong |
| 22:59.39 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: a lot more depending on your guild! |
| 22:59.48 | KriLL3 | there is only one route you can take, though you can choose what to do and what not to do |
| 22:59.52 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: did Chatter ever have a module to set different colors for incoming and outgoing whispers? |
| 22:59.54 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster you can't skip anything else but those 3 |
| 22:59.55 | AckisWork | KriLL3: in that case I give you that bwl was linear... but MC was not |
| 23:00.00 | Antiarc | I'm not sure |
| 23:00.17 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: was a joke over the cthun through the wall exploit |
| 23:00.31 | Xinhuan | i don't think this discussion should consider exploits ;p |
| 23:00.31 | KriLL3 | I remember the main part being linear and each boss except last being on a dead end fork etc |
| 23:00.40 | KriLL3 | was ages since I did MC though |
| 23:01.19 | AckisWork | KriLL3: mag/luci were in their own wing in MC, you had to backtrack to kill rag |
| 23:01.26 | JY` | mc : magmadar on a dead end |
| 23:01.29 | JY` | executus |
| 23:01.33 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 23:01.36 | Xinhuan | magmadar is not "optional" |
| 23:01.44 | KriLL3 | yeah I remember that, vaguely |
| 23:01.48 | Xinhuan | since you needed him for ragnaros |
| 23:01.56 | Xinhuan | and kiling him despawns core hounds as well |
| 23:01.58 | ulic | Gnarfoz: like I said, I don't remember how I did it, but I'll figure it out and let you know. |
| 23:02.00 | JY` | and maybe the giant |
| 23:02.01 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: you said that too soon... TOOO SOON |
| 23:02.01 | Toadkiller | no MC boss was optional |
| 23:02.08 | KriLL3 | I remember the big spiral the most, and people going lava bathing... |
| 23:02.13 | Codayus | Golemag and Sulf were...KINDA on dead end forks. Just very short ones. You could easily kill them in any order, but AFAIK everyone always did Sulf then Golemagg. |
| 23:02.13 | AckisWork | Toadkiller: baron was optional |
| 23:02.16 | Gnarfoz | ulic: I used to have it set up with 2 colors, but I reset chat settings with 3.0 |
| 23:02.24 | Codayus | Our guild did, anyhow. *shrug* |
| 23:02.29 | ulic | hmm, interesting. |
| 23:02.41 | JY` | because sulfuron was a joke |
| 23:02.44 | JY` | ah btw |
| 23:02.44 | Toadkiller | no boss kill no water snuff no baron no ... so no, none were optional |
| 23:02.45 | Xinhuan | AckisWork hardly, baron guards one of those 4 thingies you need to douse |
| 23:02.48 | KriLL3 | I remember the feral bracers dropping in MC and the RL said "shard" before I got to roll =P |
| 23:02.49 | Arrowmaster | baron droped a binding, not optional |
| 23:02.52 | JY` | a mage elem can tank executus |
| 23:02.54 | JensRex | Sulf was the vendorstrike guy, no? |
| 23:02.59 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 23:03.02 | Codayus | Plus, we decided it was SLIGHTLY shorter to go Sulf -> Golemag -> Executus. |
| 23:03.03 | KriLL3 | and feral bracers |
| 23:03.12 | AckisWork | Xinhuan: no he doesn't he patrols through the room with shaz, it was shaz who guarded the ruin |
| 23:03.16 | JensRex | I still have nightmares from MC: |
| 23:03.20 | JensRex | What a horrible instance. |
| 23:03.23 | KriLL3 | horrible horrible place |
| 23:03.23 | *** join/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@80-123-12-111.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 23:03.25 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: theres only 1 in that room i think, or do you mean the one above golomagg? |
| 23:03.32 | KriLL3 | that aoe boss with bombs... urgh |
| 23:03.32 | Xinhuan | baron patrols the room |
| 23:03.35 | Xinhuan | in big circles |
| 23:03.37 | Xinhuan | shazz doesn't patrol |
| 23:03.40 | JensRex | And I played that with a horrible guild, with the most retarded DKP rules ever. |
| 23:03.43 | Codayus | Both baron and shazz had runes... |
| 23:03.52 | Arrowmaster | you cant use the runes until the boss is dead that its linked to |
| 23:03.54 | AckisWork | shazz is on top of the ruin, you could avoid baron easily |
| 23:03.59 | winkiller | you pull em both anyway |
| 23:03.59 | KriLL3 | and ragna's knockback and all the retarded positioning... eww |
| 23:04.04 | winkiller | in ONE PULL |
| 23:04.05 | Toadkiller | The only bad thing about MC and BWL was the massive room inside a 40 man to squeeze in utter noobs and phailures |
| 23:04.32 | JensRex | The problem with multiplayer games, is all the other players. |
| 23:04.35 | JY` | i hate the geddon/shazzrah room in mc |
| 23:04.39 | KriLL3 | Toadkiller: like the raid leader's shadow priest friend in pvp blues? |
| 23:04.48 | Arrowmaster | i miss the /1 ok whos pulling razorgore and /1 who pulled vael! |
| 23:04.50 | Codayus | Eh, Rag was alright. |
| 23:04.51 | KriLL3 | (sp was worthless back then) |
| 23:04.57 | Toadkiller | Yeah but in 40 man, we had people autofollow thru MC and so on |
| 23:05.06 | Codayus | Also, BWL >>>> MC for design. |
| 23:05.25 | NivFreak | * > MC for design |
| 23:05.27 | Xinhuan | mainly because trash in BWL despawned permanently |
| 23:05.31 | Xinhuan | once a pack is killed |
| 23:05.33 | JensRex | I thought ZG was pretty fun back then, but a lot of that possibly has to do with it being 20 man. |
| 23:05.47 | KriLL3 | well imo boss 1 & 2 in BWL were a bit too hard, harder than a lot of the later ones |
| 23:05.50 | Arrowmaster | a friend and i both in the same guild were playing halo and then halo2 a few times during MC trash |
| 23:05.54 | NeoTron | Blizzard raid dungeons and encounters have pretty much always been improving with time |
| 23:05.54 | Codayus | BWL had interesting boss fights. |
| 23:06.08 | NivFreak | ebonroc and flamegor were more like big trash |
| 23:06.08 | JY` | bwl had aggro management |
| 23:06.09 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:06.18 | KriLL3 | was it BWL that had the retarded dragon whelp rooms btw? |
| 23:06.24 | Toadkiller | yeah chro and nef were very interresting |
| 23:06.25 | NivFreak | supression room |
| 23:06.31 | Toadkiller | And the suppression room rocked |
| 23:06.32 | JensRex | Depression room. |
| 23:06.36 | Arrowmaster | imho the problem with bwl was that the suppression room was spawned at the start, and directly above razorgore |
| 23:06.37 | Codayus | They could have tuned it better, but DAMN, it was nice to just zone in and have a couple of cool boss fights with MC orbs and spawning adds and BA debuffs... |
| 23:06.38 | JY` | the funny thing about bwl |
| 23:06.44 | JY` | is that you still wipe at 70 |
| 23:06.46 | KriLL3 | hated those rooms, someone was always a bit slow and the S hit the F |
| 23:06.51 | JY` | because of aggro and shadoflame :) |
| 23:07.10 | KriLL3 | it was torture |
| 23:07.10 | NeoTron | can't wait to get the DK call on nefarian at 80! |
| 23:07.21 | Xinhuan | you should see the "fuck my bow broke" on neferian |
| 23:07.22 | Arrowmaster | is there a dk call? |
| 23:07.22 | KriLL3 | lol |
| 23:07.23 | Xinhuan | its so funny |
| 23:07.26 | Toadkiller | Haha, yeah "why did the tank die? Healing?" "Forgot cloak..." |
| 23:07.26 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I assime they didn't add one |
| 23:07.28 | Xinhuan | because it always happens |
| 23:07.28 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: yep. |
| 23:07.33 | NeoTron | He deathgrips the raid |
| 23:07.37 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:07.37 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 23:07.38 | NivFreak | seriously? |
| 23:07.41 | NeoTron | seriously |
| 23:07.46 | Arrowmaster | win |
| 23:07.48 | NivFreak | I did notice that vael's buff mentions runic power now |
| 23:07.59 | NivFreak | we cleared BWL last night for fun |
| 23:08.00 | Codayus | Heh, raid last night took 3 tries to down Vael. Apparently, you need to heal the tank even after 3.0. >.> |
| 23:08.03 | NeoTron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJinXIZ4BO0 |
| 23:08.10 | NivFreak | Codayus: we killed him before the first BA |
| 23:08.15 | KriLL3 | they updated BWL? man that's... commitment |
| 23:08.25 | Arrowmaster | did he do the DK call even without any DKs in the raid? |
| 23:08.27 | Codayus | NivFreak: How many people? |
| 23:08.33 | NivFreak | like 30 |
| 23:08.34 | Toadkiller | BWL is a 10 man job now... |
| 23:08.35 | NivFreak | all t6 |
| 23:08.35 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:08.40 | NivFreak | we were bored |
| 23:08.42 | NeoTron | around 3 minute mark or so |
| 23:08.51 | ulic | with or without cloaks? |
| 23:08.52 | Codayus | I think we had...an average of about 10, but we had CONSTANT DCs. BWL instance server was just imploding. |
| 23:09.01 | Toadkiller | only tank needs cloak |
| 23:09.05 | NivFreak | the thing that pisses me off |
| 23:09.12 | Toadkiller | Rest can just hide behind throne |
| 23:09.22 | NivFreak | is that razorgor's adds never stop spawning after he dies |
| 23:09.24 | NivFreak | you always have to zone out |
| 23:09.33 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 23:09.34 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: cant you do that with ingame settings? |
| 23:09.41 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: no, that's why I'm asking. |
| 23:09.44 | Xinhuan | NivFreak: that only happens if you do a certain thing ;p |
| 23:09.50 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: what certain thing is that? |
| 23:09.53 | KriLL3 | I've deleted that cloak ages ago :< |
| 23:09.53 | Toadkiller | yeah razor bugged on us as well |
| 23:09.55 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: unless you can point me to it, preferably with a screenshot, because that would also mean I'm fucking blind. :D |
| 23:10.00 | Codayus | NivFreak: That was actually really annoying for us, because about 1/3 of our raid wasn't attuned...and our only warlock was out of shards. |
| 23:10.00 | NivFreak | he bugs on us every week |
| 23:10.01 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:10.03 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: I assume you need the class in the raid to do it but I don't actually know |
| 23:10.06 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: hmm, i was positive you could. maby an addon i used did it :P |
| 23:10.08 | NivFreak | Codayus: hah, same problem as last night |
| 23:10.10 | NivFreak | for us |
| 23:10.15 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: ever used Chatter? |
| 23:10.17 | NivFreak | Codayus: you're not on frostwolf are you? :P |
| 23:10.18 | doom0r | back to the mana usage of lower spells, rank 1 frostbolt is 1 sec for the movement speed reduction |
| 23:10.22 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: i am using it |
| 23:10.23 | Xinhuan | i forgot what it was, but it was something to do with releasing razorgore after last egg is broken |
| 23:10.23 | doom0r | so more mana can be better |
| 23:10.24 | Codayus | Lightbringer US. :- |
| 23:10.26 | KriLL3 | well loot table doesn't care what class/specs you have, why should boss calls? |
| 23:10.26 | Codayus | :-p |
| 23:10.31 | NivFreak | ah, I have friends on lightbringer |
| 23:10.32 | NivFreak | heh |
| 23:10.37 | Toadkiller | speaking of chatter is it working for 3.02 yet? |
| 23:10.43 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: my bad, it was cellular that had it |
| 23:10.44 | doom0r | Toadkiller: yet? |
| 23:10.45 | doom0r | been |
| 23:10.48 | KriLL3 | Toadkiller: worked from the start |
| 23:10.54 | NivFreak | doesn't nef's hunter call break their bows? |
| 23:10.56 | KriLL3 | except tab styling |
| 23:10.59 | Toadkiller | mmm, had issues and disabled it |
| 23:11.03 | doom0r | NivFreak: yes |
| 23:11.08 | NivFreak | that's so awesome |
| 23:11.08 | Bruners | tab styling you can use Fane |
| 23:11.09 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:11.17 | KriLL3 | DKs have bows? |
| 23:11.28 | NivFreak | hunter bows... |
| 23:11.38 | Toadkiller | oh wth! no level reqs on gatering skills? |
| 23:11.38 | NeoTron | KriLL3: think hex lord... but yeah as a 40 man boss of old, I doubt they considered classes not being in the raid |
| 23:11.42 | KriLL3 | tab styling works in chatter since like a week after |
| 23:12.13 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: always fun to get the epic hunter bow thing when all the hunters had it |
| 23:12.20 | NeoTron | Toadkiller: imagine: dual-boxing with a multi-passenger mount. level 80 driver, level 1 gatherer (or 5 or whatever) :) |
| 23:12.26 | NeoTron | don't even need to level up to have a gatherer. heh |
| 23:12.32 | ulic | cool, I play on Lightbringer, nice to know there is another in here. |
| 23:12.38 | Codayus | Yay! |
| 23:12.43 | ramoz | NeoTron: still need to be highlvl to get the skill |
| 23:12.45 | KriLL3 | ulic: 99% paladins? |
| 23:13.00 | ulic | No :) |
| 23:13.07 | NeoTron | ramoz: except they removed that requirement for gathering skills no? or just the initial level? |
| 23:13.16 | ramoz | what - they did? |
| 23:13.21 | KriLL3 | huh? |
| 23:13.22 | Codayus | Although I fear I may be transferring off. I moved from the east coast of the US to NZ, and the time zone change is uhhh...making riading tricky. |
| 23:13.25 | NeoTron | see Toadkiller a few lines up |
| 23:13.43 | Toadkiller | lol lvl 1 gatherer in an 80 zone = no gathering while you fight off the entire zone... |
| 23:14.06 | NeoTron | you'd be at least level 5-10 by then from zone bonuses! |
| 23:14.07 | ulic | Codayus: there used to be an NZ/Aus guild, on alliance at least, don't remember which one though. |
| 23:14.24 | NeoTron | but they need a multi-passenger flying mount |
| 23:14.33 | NeoTron | I'm amazingly disappointed theer are none |
| 23:14.42 | NeoTron | land ones are fun but more of a gimmick at high level |
| 23:14.45 | ulic | there are none....yet! |
| 23:14.54 | NeoTron | only use is to level low level alts or help low level friends |
| 23:15.13 | NeoTron | and in northrend level 70-77 heh |
| 23:15.17 | NivFreak | I can't wait to get my vendor mount |
| 23:15.25 | NivFreak | I loved that thing on beta |
| 23:15.30 | NeoTron | trying to decide if I will get it |
| 23:15.30 | KriLL3 | NeoTron: no exalted bonus :< |
| 23:15.31 | NivFreak | I have 20,000G waiting for it |
| 23:15.36 | NeoTron | it's not exactly that useful |
| 23:15.40 | Toadkiller | Blizzcon = all my alts forevermore have a mount |
| 23:15.43 | NivFreak | dude |
| 23:15.45 | NivFreak | it's the best mount ever |
| 23:15.52 | NivFreak | the only thing that sucks about it |
| 23:15.53 | KriLL3 | naw, hog |
| 23:15.55 | NeoTron | but it's not really useful |
| 23:15.56 | NivFreak | is how long it takes to dismount |
| 23:16.03 | Arrowmaster | big blizzard bear is account bound? |
| 23:16.09 | Toadkiller | yeah |
| 23:16.13 | Codayus | ulic: Last I checked, none are serious at raiding though. :-/ (As in, AFAIK, no Oceanic guild on lightbringer downed Kael or Vashj.) |
| 23:16.27 | NivFreak | it: 1.) Takes fall damage for you 2.) Has repair, reagent, poison, etc vendors on it 3.) can carry alts |
| 23:16.31 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: don't you need the riding skill? |
| 23:16.33 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: yes |
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| 23:16.39 | Arrowmaster | sweet |
| 23:16.44 | Arrowmaster | still waiting for my DTV one |
| 23:16.45 | Toadkiller | Well really its realm bound... |
| 23:16.49 | NeoTron | 1) flying mount, 2) there are like 3 such places in each zone, 3) mammoths can't fly |
| 23:16.51 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: I got my dtv one last week |
| 23:16.52 | Toadkiller | or faction I guess... |
| 23:16.54 | ulic | Codayus: yea it was back pre-BC I remember hearing/seeing about it, might be dead for all I know. |
| 23:17.07 | ulic | those times didn't work for me so I didn't give them much of a look. |
| 23:17.18 | NeoTron | I can see the use for raiding, if you lack an engineer (for repairs) |
| 23:17.27 | NeoTron | but since it doesn't have a faction, it's not really cheaper than a repair bot |
| 23:17.35 | Arrowmaster | NivFreak: i dont actually have DTV but paid somebody else with DTV to order it |
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| 23:17.37 | Codayus | ulic: The Thunder Down Under, Night Watch, Night Crew are the ones I knew. Only the first is still raiding AFAIK... |
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| 23:18.45 | ulic | will they let you transfer to oceanic servers or are there other oceanic guilds on US servers? |
| 23:19.06 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: ah |
| 23:19.46 | NivFreak | NeoTron: also, I can grind and vendor greys constantly |
| 23:19.51 | NivFreak | without running back to town |
| 23:20.04 | ulic | did they send out the big blizzard bears from DTV yet? |
| 23:20.08 | Codayus | ulic: There are no "real" oceanic servers, but some of the PST time zone servers are "officially" oceanic. |
| 23:20.11 | NivFreak | ulic: got mine last week |
| 23:20.33 | ulic | NivFreak: I'll have to ask my former roommate, I moved out but didn't change my account address yet. |
| 23:20.45 | NivFreak | it came in a really plain looking letter |
| 23:20.47 | Codayus | Just a name; they're in the same data centers, and there's no difference for creating or transferring chars. In fact, some oceanic servers have a lot of US guilds due to screwups in the way Bliz rolled them out. |
| 23:20.48 | NivFreak | I almost threw it away |
| 23:20.51 | NivFreak | assumed it was junk |
| 23:20.56 | ulic | NivFreak: did it say DTV on it? |
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| 23:21.06 | NivFreak | ulic: yea |
| 23:21.09 | NeoTron | NivFreak: of course if you didn't spend 20000g on the mount you wouldn't need to grind in the first place ! ;-) |
| 23:21.11 | ulic | ok cool, thanks. |
| 23:21.20 | NivFreak | NeoTron: :) |
| 23:21.21 | NeoTron | I havent' done any "grinding" for mats or gold in probably over a year |
| 23:21.43 | NivFreak | sometimes there aren't even mats for sale |
| 23:21.49 | NivFreak | and at launch, that can be the case :) |
| 23:22.00 | NivFreak | good luck buying herbs |
| 23:22.01 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:22.01 | NeoTron | mind you I can easily afford one, just not sure I want to buy it |
| 23:22.04 | Primer | How much is cold weather riding skill going to cost? |
| 23:22.09 | Primer | or whatever it's called |
| 23:22.13 | NivFreak | Primer: 1000 w/o discount |
| 23:22.28 | Primer | so is there epic cold weather flying? |
| 23:22.33 | NivFreak | no |
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| 23:22.39 | NivFreak | it just lets your flying mounts work |
| 23:22.44 | NivFreak | ding 77, give them 1000 |
| 23:22.45 | NivFreak | win |
| 23:22.47 | NeoTron | it's just an "add on" to your normal flying skill, doesn't replace it |
| 23:22.47 | Primer | awesome |
| 23:22.55 | NivFreak | not so awesome |
| 23:23.00 | NivFreak | it was a quest and no gold originally |
| 23:23.04 | NivFreak | now it's just a gold sink |
| 23:23.04 | Primer | guess I might as well level my 3rd 70 then |
| 23:23.18 | Primer | think I can make it from 32 to 70 between now and the expansion? :) |
| 23:23.27 | NivFreak | yes |
| 23:23.37 | NivFreak | I did 1 to 52 in 10 hours |
| 23:23.41 | NeoTron | depends on your amount of life :P |
| 23:23.42 | Primer | damn |
| 23:23.50 | NivFreak | (I cheated) |
| 23:23.51 | Primer | thnkg is, I have a job, wife, and kids |
| 23:23.57 | NivFreak | I have a job, wife, and kid |
| 23:24.04 | Primer | how'd you cheat? |
| 23:24.10 | Primer | crystal methamphetamine? |
| 23:24.11 | NivFreak | I gifted 10 of those levels ;) |
| 23:24.12 | NeoTron | refer a friend |
| 23:24.17 | NivFreak | and RAF |
| 23:24.18 | NivFreak | yea |
| 23:24.20 | Codayus | RAF is...*very* powerful. |
| 23:24.26 | NivFreak | it took me 35 hours to ding 60 on two toons at once |
| 23:24.29 | Primer | ahhh |
| 23:24.34 | NivFreak | my RAF expired today, which is probably good for me |
| 23:24.37 | NivFreak | I was alt whoring badly |
| 23:24.49 | Primer | hrmm, I wonder who I can refer |
| 23:24.50 | NivFreak | I think I have 3 warriors over 40 now |
| 23:24.51 | NeoTron | I already have 3 70s, and will get my DK up as my new main |
| 23:24.53 | NivFreak | 2 hunters |
| 23:24.57 | NeoTron | I know many have more but.. that's good with me :P |
| 23:24.57 | NivFreak | 2 mages |
| 23:24.59 | NivFreak | 2 warlocks |
| 23:24.59 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:25.05 | Primer | I only have 2 70s |
| 23:25.10 | NivFreak | I have 4 70s |
| 23:25.24 | NivFreak | 2 70s with 4pc+ t6 |
| 23:25.24 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:25.38 | Primer | my priest is the only one with BT gear |
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| 23:26.37 | Studdly1 | Ello |
| 23:26.38 | Primer | but my lock has S4 everything except shoulders and weapon |
| 23:26.45 | NivFreak | I have a couple t6 drops on my priest |
| 23:26.47 | Primer | S2 shoulders though |
| 23:26.48 | NivFreak | 4pc on my hunter |
| 23:26.51 | Primer | and pve weapon :/ |
| 23:26.51 | NivFreak | 6/8 on my warrior |
| 23:27.08 | NivFreak | then a paladin in full t4 + some za bits |
| 23:27.43 | Studdly1 | ~Ping Antiarc |
| 23:27.44 | purl | pong Antiarc |
| 23:27.59 | Studdly1 | Ping Antiarc |
| 23:28.08 | Antiarc | Yo |
| 23:28.24 | Groktar | mmm first polls close in 30 minutes |
| 23:29.00 | NivFreak | obama wins |
| 23:29.04 | NivFreak | don't worry about it |
| 23:29.08 | Studdly1 | Quick question |
| 23:29.11 | NivFreak | was that a spoiler? |
| 23:29.34 | Codayus | It's not over until it's over. ...which might mean waiting on a few court decisions. :-/ |
| 23:29.48 | Studdly1 | Antiarc: can u make it so Chatter msg bar will go on top of the window not under ? |
| 23:29.55 | Studdly1 | like Basic Chat mod. |
| 23:30.02 | Antiarc | yes, there's a dropdown menu for it in edit box polish |
| 23:30.03 | NeoTron | Studdly1: ... it does? |
| 23:30.20 | NeoTron | for some reason I thought it was the default, when I switched at least |
| 23:30.34 | Studdly1 | Its not default |
| 23:31.31 | Studdly1 | Ahh i found it |
| 23:31.32 | Studdly1 | my bad |
| 23:31.36 | Studdly1 | Kinda blind some times |
| 23:31.45 | Studdly1 | Thanks and could u close my ticket. |
| 23:31.49 | Studdly1 | its not needed. |
| 23:34.36 | Arrowmaster | so i think i found a bug with the patch |
| 23:35.12 | Studdly1 | oh ya ? |
| 23:35.16 | eliteevil | the bug being that it doesn't work correctly, and the servers are back to being completely screwed? |
| 23:35.33 | NivFreak | lol |
| 23:35.35 | NivFreak | is it that bad? |
| 23:36.02 | eliteevil | I'm hoping it's just the world servers |
| 23:36.10 | Arrowmaster | hmm this is weird |
| 23:36.12 | eliteevil | We'll see in 25 when we zone in to sunwell. |
| 23:36.23 | eliteevil | assuming, you know.. we can zone into sunwell. |
| 23:36.28 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 23:36.32 | Arrowmaster | testing |
| 23:36.40 | NivFreak | spill it! |
| 23:36.50 | doom0r | nothing like a mobless world |
| 23:37.05 | Arrowmaster | was messing with IsAddOnLoaded() |
| 23:37.30 | NeoTron | they probably reverted all the fixes they made when 3.0.2 went live |
| 23:37.37 | Antiarc | nevcairiel: ping |
| 23:37.40 | NeoTron | since they seem to like to fix things and then revert them in the next large patch |
| 23:37.45 | Arrowmaster | and now i fucking cant reproduce the bug |
| 23:37.57 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: he went to bed |
| 23:38.04 | Antiarc | Ah, okay |
| 23:38.17 | eliteevil | NeoTron: And to top things off, there's an effing cast time on my broom now! |
| 23:38.22 | NeoTron | "Lolwut - sauce control!? Wut dat?" |
| 23:38.43 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03StingerSoft * r664 Locale-ruRU.lua: AutoBar : ruRU update |
| 23:38.51 | NeoTron | I know source revision control of a large project is hell, don't get me wrong.. still amuses me to see bugs return not just once but multiple times |
| 23:39.02 | NeoTron | pets @ Aran for example :P |
| 23:39.06 | Xinhuan | what bug? |
| 23:39.27 | NeoTron | pets / immunity effects causing big badabooms on Aran |
| 23:39.38 | NeoTron | which was fixed, broken, fixed, broken and then fixed again |
| 23:39.47 | Xinhuan | no i mean what bug is Arrowmaster referring to |
| 23:39.53 | NeoTron | ah that I don't know |
| 23:40.31 | Xinhuan | ckknight, found the Performance_Fu tagging issue yet? been 1.5 hours since tagging |
| 23:40.50 | ckknight | I'm looking into it |
| 23:41.30 | Xinhuan | who's allowed to tag at the moment? |
| 23:41.35 | Arrowmaster | i did 'local a, b = IsAddOnLoaded(...)' 'DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("..... "..a.." "..b)' and got an attempt to concatinate a nil value error when i first logged in |
| 23:41.41 | Xinhuan | just the authors listed in the project? |
| 23:41.44 | Arrowmaster | but now its always 1, 1 |
| 23:44.00 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r122 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus: |
| 23:44.01 | Repo | - Fixed, again, paladin blessing checking. |
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| 23:44.50 | NivFreak | I love RBS |
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| 23:47.21 | Xinhuan | woo, corehounds no longer shake my screen |
| 23:47.35 | LexSfX | ooh, that's a welcome fix. |
| 23:47.46 | Arrowmaster | AH HA |
| 23:47.48 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, does that tag of performance_fu not cause an error on load with f2b? |
| 23:47.57 | Xinhuan | ya Gngsk, i fixed it |
| 23:48.01 | Gngsk | thanks much |
| 23:48.06 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar_performancefu/ |
| 23:48.08 | Arrowmaster | I DID FIND A BUG |
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| 23:48.11 | Gngsk | nods. |
| 23:48.33 | Xinhuan | i suspect my tag didn't get pushed to Curse because i'm not a listed author on the project |
| 23:48.41 | Xinhuan | but who knows ;p |
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| 23:49.58 | Groktar | yesss |
| 23:50.01 | Groktar | my stuff is here! |
| 23:50.22 | Xinhuan | Gngsk: the problem was that the zip didn't come with LibCrayon-3.0 |
| 23:50.27 | Xinhuan | so it failed to load, that's all |
| 23:50.31 | Arrowmaster | http://ace.pastey.net/100703 |
| 23:50.50 | Slayman | purl, Skinner |
| 23:50.51 | purl | skinner is the mod which completely ruined Haste's perfectly good and efficient OSkin. |
| 23:51.21 | Xinhuan | what did that print, Arrowmaster? |
| 23:51.30 | Arrowmaster | on first login 1, nil |
| 23:51.37 | Arrowmaster | on second login 1, 1 |
| 23:52.03 | Xinhuan | that's the main chunk one? |
| 23:52.07 | Xinhuan | or the event one |
| 23:52.08 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 23:52.13 | Arrowmaster | the event one is always 1, 1 |
| 23:52.28 | ckknight | okay, Xinhuan |
| 23:52.55 | Xinhuan | ckknight, what was it? |
| 23:53.03 | ckknight | I don't know |
| 23:53.08 | ckknight | "something with the game map" |
| 23:53.12 | ckknight | whatever that means |
| 23:53.27 | Xinhuan | who's allowed to tag addons atm? |
| 23:53.35 | Xinhuan | just mods and listed authors? |
| 23:53.43 | ckknight | currently... anyone |
| 23:53.45 | Toadkiller | i think u need to be author or a project elf |
| 23:53.52 | Toadkiller | oh |
| 23:53.56 | Xinhuan | so |
| 23:54.01 | ckknight | don't tell the russians, though |
| 23:54.07 | Xinhuan | anyone can create an account now, and tag 2000 copies of every addon? |
| 23:54.14 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:54.15 | ckknight | yes, currently |
| 23:54.23 | Toadkiller | Those russians are as good as the chinese and koreans at localizing... |
| 23:54.26 | Xinhuan | right... |
| 23:54.28 | Gngsk | let's do it! |
| 23:54.30 | Zhinjio | i can't tag libdogtag |
| 23:54.31 | Arrowmaster | no they are worse |
| 23:54.32 | ckknight | I'm going to fix that once we deploy the new curseforge |
| 23:54.46 | ckknight | probably tomorrow |
| 23:54.59 | ckknight | please help test it at http://beta.wowace.net/ |
| 23:55.20 | Xinhuan | brb, logging in on it |
| 23:55.58 | Xinhuan | heh, first thing i notice is "Ban/unban user" |
| 23:56.13 | ckknight | hehe |
| 23:56.19 | ckknight | the approval queue is also slightly nicer |
| 23:56.30 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, still getting that nil upvalue with what bugsack says is 2.0132 |
| 23:56.33 | Gngsk | did I download the wrong one? |
| 23:56.42 | ckknight | also, if you fill in any forms and fuck up (forget a field, etc.), it's a lot more noticeable |
| 23:56.43 | Xinhuan | did you get v2.0.0 |
| 23:56.49 | Kalroth_ | Xins an admin now? poor wowace posters! |
| 23:56.50 | ckknight | it's mostly backend stuff, though |
| 23:56.57 | Xinhuan | it looks the same to me ckknight |
| 23:56.59 | Gngsk | yea v2.0.0 |
| 23:57.05 | Xinhuan | except the editbox is like, smaller |
| 23:57.15 | Xinhuan | for the "Note" |
| 23:57.26 | ckknight | Xinhuan: link? |
| 23:57.33 | Xinhuan | http://beta.wowace.net/admin/approval-queue/ |
| 23:57.48 | ckknight | Xinhuan: ah, well, I meant on the front page |
| 23:57.56 | ckknight | for wowace it's not as big a deal as curseforge, though |
| 23:58.00 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 23:58.06 | ckknight | but it'll say (2 projects, 3 files0 |
| 23:58.07 | ckknight | ) |
| 23:58.07 | Zhinjio | so if anyone can tag anything, why can't I tag libdogtag? |
| 23:58.09 | ckknight | instead of (2, 3, 0) |
| 23:58.21 | Xinhuan | it says "Approval queue (3 projects)" |
| 23:58.25 | Zhinjio | oh. |
| 23:58.25 | ckknight | Zhinjio: not sure, maybe it's marked as private access |
| 23:58.26 | Zhinjio | nm. |
| 23:58.27 | Zhinjio | I can |
| 23:58.30 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea |
| 23:58.39 | Xinhuan | i dont' have CF admin btw, just wowace |
| 23:58.59 | Xinhuan | Gngsk: got a bugsack report? |
| 23:59.15 | ckknight | in any event, play with beta.wowace.net, see if you can make any errors pop up. If any errors do come up, tell me |
| 23:59.15 | Gngsk | Xinhuan, sure |
| 23:59.30 | Xinhuan | there's a ticket with your name on it btw, ckknight |
| 23:59.37 | Jygga | yay indecision08 stream detected |
| 23:59.38 | ckknight | where? |
| 23:59.47 | Xinhuan | Reports pending (3) |
| 23:59.49 | Xinhuan | go click that |
| 23:59.50 | Xinhuan | :p |
