| 00:00.43 | cncfanatics | chiper: :o damn them |
| 00:02.21 | Megalon | vhaarr: well, NivFreak > you then :P |
| 00:02.33 | vhaarr | clearly, he's a US citizen after all |
| 00:02.35 | vhaarr | they > everybody |
| 00:03.33 | cncfanatics | yea, totaly |
| 00:03.38 | cncfanatics | nobody can beat US citizens |
| 00:03.52 | Groktar | down speed: 32kB/s |
| 00:04.00 | Groktar | up speed: 128kb/S |
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| 00:04.07 | Groktar | h8 leechers |
| 00:04.24 | Lywellyn | h8 extended maintenance. >.> |
| 00:04.44 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 00:04.49 | cncfanatics | Groktar: some people have no choice |
| 00:04.56 | Gnarfoz | people in my guild have copies of wrath, and we're EU :\ |
| 00:04.59 | Gnarfoz | I hates them! |
| 00:05.08 | Gnarfoz | they'll steal my realm first fishing! :p |
| 00:05.17 | Groktar | lol |
| 00:05.19 | Lywellyn | yeah, my best friend texts me earlier to tell me he has his copy. |
| 00:05.24 | Lywellyn | I preferred to wait for the midnight release. |
| 00:05.48 | Gnarfoz | shit if I had access to 3 copies, I'd certainly not go. :D |
| 00:05.51 | Lywellyn | ....the 2.0.1.0.RC1 link is broken :( |
| 00:06.46 | chiper | grrr, Bank of America loaned Circuit City 1.1 billion dollars to help them escape their bankruptcy. what. the. fuck. |
| 00:06.57 | chiper | how is that possibly a good loan investment? |
| 00:07.11 | Lywellyn | They get 1.1bil and I can't even get 6k? wtf? |
| 00:07.31 | Lisimba | Bah, they know the government will just give it back to them. |
| 00:07.56 | Gnarfoz | lol wtf |
| 00:08.00 | Gnarfoz | that's like |
| 00:08.15 | Gnarfoz | "wut? there was a financial crisis?" |
| 00:08.51 | Lisimba | Free money for everyone! |
| 00:09.26 | Gngsk | NivFreak, big up on the 7-11. had to call a few more than 6 stores but I got a copy |
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| 00:12.12 | NivFreak | Gngsk: grats :) |
| 00:12.33 | Gngsk | so at what time can we upgrade our accounts? 12m tommorow I'd assume? |
| 00:12.53 | NivFreak | Gngsk: I upgraded mine already |
| 00:13.03 | chiper | this is both awesome... and confusing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYPn1BrTNCE |
| 00:13.06 | NivFreak | https://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/installer/index.xml?product=WLK&locale=enUS&promo=0&trial=0 |
| 00:13.10 | Fisker- | anyone know chinese? |
| 00:13.15 | Fisker- | or mandarin i guess? |
| 00:13.15 | cladhaire | so when is wow being released? |
| 00:13.19 | cladhaire | i mean wotlk? |
| 00:13.22 | Zyndrome | Holy Tapdancing Christ in a Nissan Sunny! It's 22hrs 49mins 13secs left until the release of Wrath of the Lich King! FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU- |
| 00:13.23 | Zyndrome | CET |
| 00:13.24 | Zyndrome | :p |
| 00:13.26 | Fisker- | tuesday 00:01 |
| 00:13.37 | cladhaire | ah okay |
| 00:13.39 | Stanzilla | should I keep Fel Lotus now or sell it? |
| 00:13.50 | Gngsk | NivFreak, so i guess it just means waiting on boat/zep to go to northrend? |
| 00:15.43 | NivFreak | yep |
| 00:15.47 | NivFreak | 9PM PST tomorrow |
| 00:16.07 | NivFreak | in the US at least |
| 00:16.19 | chexsum | midnight tomorrow in australia |
| 00:18.02 | NivFreak | how many hours is that |
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| 00:18.27 | NivFreak | US launch is < 29 hours |
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| 00:18.54 | Dalamar1991 | and none of the servers are up, and there's no ETA |
| 00:19.05 | Gngsk | encouraging |
| 00:19.12 | Dalamar1991 | i'm betting that servers are going to be down most of launch day |
| 00:20.06 | cncfanatics | meh I'm bored |
| 00:20.15 | cncfanatics | don't feel like lvl'ing more and want the new bleach episode to be released |
| 00:20.34 | Dalamar1991 | i saw it already |
| 00:20.34 | NivFreak | that show is still going? |
| 00:20.35 | NivFreak | wow |
| 00:20.54 | cncfanatics | Dalamar1991: the 194 ? :p where ? |
| 00:21.01 | Dalamar1991 | do you speak japanese? |
| 00:21.03 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: its quite a nice show imo |
| 00:21.05 | cncfanatics | nop :p |
| 00:21.10 | Dalamar1991 | sucks to be you, then :) |
| 00:21.12 | cncfanatics | waiting for the fansub to be released |
| 00:21.19 | cncfanatics | which should be in about 40 minutes |
| 00:21.26 | cncfanatics | when did the japanese one air ? |
| 00:22.09 | Dalamar1991 | last night |
| 00:22.17 | cncfanatics | how much hours ago ? :p |
| 00:22.21 | cncfanatics | last night as so relative |
| 00:22.30 | cncfanatics | (last night is 30 hours ago for me) |
| 00:22.47 | Dalamar1991 | about 12-ish hours ago? |
| 00:22.58 | Dalamar1991 | it's morning in japan now |
| 00:23.06 | cncfanatics | ok, thanks :) dattebayo is quite efficient in their subbing process then heh |
| 00:24.02 | Dalamar1991 | hehe |
| 00:24.06 | NivFreak | heh |
| 00:24.13 | NivFreak | I wonder if my buddy is still subbing for them |
| 00:24.16 | NivFreak | timecop |
| 00:24.25 | NivFreak | king troll of the free internet |
| 00:24.35 | Primer | I knew a Timecop once |
| 00:24.40 | Primer | biggest IRC troll ever |
| 00:24.46 | Primer | linux enthusiast? |
| 00:24.57 | NivFreak | lwz |
| 00:24.57 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:25.14 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: he is |
| 00:25.34 | cncfanatics | I don't know him, but he gets mentioned often enough :p |
| 00:25.43 | NivFreak | I still remember before he moved to japan and became an uber troll |
| 00:25.47 | NivFreak | when he was just a prick :p |
| 00:25.59 | Primer | I'm trying to remember what channel that was on |
| 00:26.00 | Fasti | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ working? :P |
| 00:26.03 | NivFreak | and going to school at UAF |
| 00:26.03 | cncfanatics | heh |
| 00:26.04 | Primer | I think it was on EFNet |
| 00:26.13 | NivFreak | Primer: #LinuxWarez |
| 00:26.17 | Primer | YES! |
| 00:26.19 | NivFreak | :P |
| 00:26.19 | Primer | that was it |
| 00:26.29 | NivFreak | I finally left after idling for like 3 years |
| 00:26.54 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: is he like 2-3 Fisker-'s ? |
| 00:27.00 | Fasti | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe |
| 00:27.08 | Fasti | is that for US only? |
| 00:27.30 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: 500x? |
| 00:27.33 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 00:27.47 | Primer | -rw-rw-rw- 1 daniel daniel 122048 Feb 6 2004 /home/daniel/.dircproxy.ora.log/#linuxwarez |
| 00:27.49 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 00:27.55 | cncfanatics | sounds like the kind of people I like then :p |
| 00:28.09 | NivFreak | Primer: lol |
| 00:28.10 | Primer | heh, 3 irc proxies ago |
| 00:28.13 | NivFreak | I have logs around :) |
| 00:28.13 | Tuller | hrm of course, I code something, and then two hours later figure out the servers are not up :P |
| 00:28.20 | Primer | I'm using irssi + proxy module now |
| 00:28.51 | Primer | <timecop!timecop@ops.linuxwarez.org> [21:37] rtbt is fucking old crusty shit |
| 00:28.51 | Primer | <timecop!timecop@ops.linuxwarez.org> [21:43] www.tux.org is FUCKING SLOW |
| 00:28.51 | Primer | <timecop!timecop@ops.linuxwarez.org> [21:43] cunts |
| 00:29.55 | cncfanatics | that linuxwarez.org site is a placeholder domain ? |
| 00:31.35 | FroMaster | So what's the speculation? Someone was doing maintenance on the Database SAN and removed 1 too many disks in the raid array? |
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| 00:32.12 | Antiarc | postsuper -d ALL |
| 00:32.14 | Antiarc | oops. |
| 00:32.21 | quiescens | gasp |
| 00:32.35 | smcn | arthas went postal, lol get it because the mail system was broken |
| 00:32.46 | smcn | my mom says i should do standup |
| 00:32.48 | Antiarc | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27666284/?gt1=43001 |
| 00:32.59 | cncfanatics | bah, I need sleep |
| 00:33.08 | FroMaster | I'm just wondering how you have such a catastrophic issue two days before a major release... |
| 00:33.20 | smcn | unexpected downtime is unexpected |
| 00:34.07 | cncfanatics | smcn: is it ? :o |
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| 00:34.36 | crookfingerjake | expects it. |
| 00:34.44 | FroMaster | I've done my fare share of maintenance in *very* large infrastructures and I've so far been able to avoid these types of catastrophic 12hr downtimes |
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| 00:35.20 | crookfingerjake | Excellent, you're hired. |
| 00:35.24 | smcn | lol |
| 00:35.26 | FroMaster | Guess I should see if I can do some consulting for Blizzard :) I'd love to be down at the colo right now to see them freaking out |
| 00:36.12 | FroMaster | crookfingerjake: I'm just extra careful... no special skill required :) |
| 00:36.52 | crookfingerjake | FroMaster for World President! |
| 00:36.58 | FroMaster | crookfingerjake: haha |
| 00:39.04 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: |
| 00:39.05 | cncfanatics | <@timecop> kankurou: until you stop being a 3yo pussy faggot and get out and talk to women instead of a penguin you will always be lonely |
| 00:40.03 | Trela | They must have really broke the mail system. |
| 00:40.03 | Fisker- | ~seen Xinhuan |
| 00:40.09 | purl | xinhuan <i=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 2h 31m 4s ago, saying: 'of course, i never did'. |
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| 00:42.28 | cncfanatics | damn NivFreak seems afk :p |
| 00:43.52 | chexsum | all the real devs are probably celebrasating the new product while juniors break everything |
| 00:44.54 | Bruners | what function returns "Orgrimmar" on orgrimmar guards and "Frostwolf Clan" on frostwolf dudes? |
| 00:45.18 | cncfanatics | Bruners: the function to get their guild prolly |
| 00:45.50 | Bruners | guild only returns if the got a <banker> under their name |
| 00:46.00 | Trela | I have it in my code, let me get it. |
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| 00:46.18 | ckknight | Bruners: tooltip scanning ftw |
| 00:46.28 | orionshock | unit faction? |
| 00:46.34 | Trela | NPCDESC = GameTooltipTextLeft2:GetText(); |
| 00:46.35 | Trela | >.>; |
| 00:46.38 | Fasti | upgrade.wow-europe.com is that 100%legit? :) |
| 00:46.43 | Gnarfoz | Fasti: sigh |
| 00:46.44 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 00:46.47 | Trela | The only way I figured it out. |
| 00:46.49 | Gnarfoz | do you know what https is? :p |
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| 00:47.02 | Gnarfoz | now give me a key :O |
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| 00:48.43 | Trela | The USA version is not requiring the check for a Battle.net account. |
| 00:49.01 | harl | is there a way to include or embed an add-on within the directory of another add-on wihout having to manually merge the toc files? |
| 00:49.27 | Trela | embed.xml works. |
| 00:49.33 | Trela | How so do you mean? |
| 00:50.04 | Trela | If the AddOn was not meant to be embedded, then you will have to merge the TOC files. |
| 00:52.12 | harl | i'm not aware of the differences there. what i want is to get rid of those many directories some add-ons consists of, like BigWigs has 20 something directories and then there's LittleWigs and BabyWigs, so that they're essentially shown as one add-on in the in-game add-on list. |
| 00:53.02 | harl | but i guess that would have them lose their load-on-demand ability or something |
| 00:53.37 | cncfanatics | http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/keyboard-infused-pants-make-it-okay-to-grab-your-crotch/ no wtf seriously ? |
| 00:54.05 | harl | or is there a way around that. i see other add-ons got modules in their single directory which can be enabled/disabled separately. |
| 00:54.51 | Trela | Harl: Unfortunately some AddOns had to move their separate portions outside of the main directory to their own directories because of a change Blizzard made. |
| 00:55.31 | Trela | BigWigs, Cartographer, and a few others changed to follow that. |
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| 00:57.14 | pompy | ah, they need to fix this ingame mail issue! lol |
| 00:58.32 | Lex | no, they need to stop fixing it so we can play. |
| 00:58.33 | Lex | :( |
| 00:58.42 | opant | I didn't have mail anyway :D |
| 00:58.51 | pompy | lol |
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| 01:00.09 | orionshock | so whats the difference between %a and %w ? |
| 01:00.10 | Camci | the launch is in 24 hours or 48? |
| 01:00.34 | pompy | well midnight local time for like preorders |
| 01:00.34 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: seems about right |
| 01:00.55 | Camci | midnight tomorrow (today) or the day after? |
| 01:00.56 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: he's on irc.dattebayo.com for the record |
| 01:01.02 | Camci | midnight of thursday? |
| 01:01.04 | pompy | '12 am thursday |
| 01:01.05 | smcn | Camci: 28, technically. 9 pst is when northrend/DK's is "switched" on |
| 01:01.11 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r35 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 01:01.12 | Repo | Utopia: Added category details on icon click to show all classes in category sorted by ability to apply debuff type. |
| 01:01.12 | Repo | - Categories wihtout an able debuffer will show a list of who you could get to apply the debuff. |
| 01:01.50 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: he's still on efnet too :P |
| 01:01.54 | NivFreak | ~wowalert |
| 01:01.55 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 01:02.17 | cncfanatics | NivFreak: I have no idea what efnet is ^^ |
| 01:02.28 | NivFreak | cncfanatics: the root of all evil |
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| 01:04.18 | cncfanatics | I need sleep |
| 01:04.19 | cncfanatics | g'night all |
| 01:04.26 | harl | Evil Frelled Net |
| 01:04.37 | Camci | some ppl in guild says its on 22 hours, the launch. :p |
| 01:04.50 | pompy | yes |
| 01:05.03 | harl | well, it is. |
| 01:05.12 | Camci | err |
| 01:05.24 | harl | kind of |
| 01:05.37 | Camci | why kind of? |
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| 01:05.45 | pompy | its in 26 hours my time |
| 01:05.56 | harl | because it depends on your time zone. 22 hours of what.. |
| 01:06.03 | Camci | game time |
| 01:06.09 | Camci | 02 here atm |
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| 01:06.30 | NivFreak | christ, realms are still down? |
| 01:06.31 | NivFreak | lol |
| 01:08.06 | Camci | maybe the sale starts in 22 hours and the actual game launch the next midnight? but that wouldnt make sense |
| 01:08.25 | pompy | yes they are |
| 01:08.38 | Camci | ok got it |
| 01:09.00 | NivFreak | US launc is in ~28 hours |
| 01:09.02 | NivFreak | launch |
| 01:09.05 | pompy | yeah like its 8pm here.. so 12am thursday is launch |
| 01:09.07 | pompy | aka 26 hours |
| 01:09.09 | pompy | for east cosat |
| 01:09.14 | pompy | coast* |
| 01:09.23 | Zyndrome | Holy Tapdancing Christ in a Nissan Sunny! It's 21hrs 53mins 14secs left until the release of Wrath of the Lich King! FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU- |
| 01:09.25 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 01:09.26 | pompy | i mean 28 |
| 01:09.29 | NivFreak | pompy: 28 hours :) |
| 01:09.31 | opant | I think its time to bust out the GMT |
| 01:09.37 | pompy | haha i corrected myself ;) |
| 01:09.40 | opant | east coast = GMT +5 |
| 01:09.58 | opant | er -5 |
| 01:10.00 | opant | shrug |
| 01:10.22 | Ackis | launch is at 12 EST |
| 01:10.27 | Ackis | 9 PST |
| 01:10.51 | NivFreak | yes |
| 01:12.05 | Ackis | wtb servers being up |
| 01:12.14 | NivFreak | no shit |
| 01:12.16 | quiescens | take a nap |
| 01:12.18 | NivFreak | I want to see if I can make a deathknight |
| 01:12.55 | pompy | not till expansion |
| 01:13.07 | NivFreak | I'm not so sure :) |
| 01:13.46 | Stanzilla | pats Ackis |
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| 01:15.12 | Toadkiller | Holy god. Someone really fucked the dog today at blizz |
| 01:15.18 | Loonacy | So i heard they're bringing the servers down until WotLK is released. *listens for sobs* |
| 01:15.46 | NivFreak | haha |
| 01:15.50 | Toadkiller | had lunch took a nap, still 2 hours away from an eta |
| 01:17.01 | Fasti | isn't it almost a full day until wotlk servers up? |
| 01:17.02 | Fisker- | pime taradox |
| 01:17.08 | Fasti | oh fk |
| 01:17.11 | Fasti | I need to be in isle |
| 01:17.19 | Toadkiller | 1 day 6.45 hours |
| 01:17.26 | NivFreak | bzzt |
| 01:17.34 | Stanzilla | wtb wotlk eu client download :( damn us people! |
| 01:17.41 | NivFreak | Toadkiller: < 28 hours |
| 01:17.52 | NivFreak | Stanzilla: it's been on torrents for several days |
| 01:17.56 | Fasti | the us one doesn't work? |
| 01:17.58 | Toadkiller | only if you are not on pst time |
| 01:18.02 | Stanzilla | I dont trust torrents |
| 01:18.09 | Fasti | I clicked the installer, it downloaded.. something, but still works in eu |
| 01:18.12 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe < is the real deal imo |
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| 01:18.14 | NivFreak | Toadkiller: on PST time |
| 01:18.44 | NivFreak | Toadkiller: servers go live at 9PM PST |
| 01:18.59 | Toadkiller | ok it is now 5:18, so almost 6, which is 6 hours till midnite and then 1 more day... |
| 01:19.06 | Tuxbubling | hey there |
| 01:19.14 | NivFreak | Toadkiller: 9PM pacific, it goes live |
| 01:19.18 | NivFreak | not 12AM |
| 01:19.36 | Toadkiller | you can get your copy b4 midnite? |
| 01:19.37 | Fasti | I tried it vs current worlk patched wow thou, |
| 01:19.47 | NivFreak | Toadkiller: I have my copy installed and my account upgraded |
| 01:19.54 | Tuxbubling | is there an addon that is showing the average DPS based on build and stuff?? |
| 01:19.57 | Toadkiller | huh? |
| 01:20.03 | Toadkiller | Oh the 7-11 thing |
| 01:20.05 | Lywellyn | Wow. Realms are down, web server intermittent at best....ha. |
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| 01:20.35 | doom0r | Useless wotlk data inc! |
| 01:20.43 | doom0r | I visited 8 7-11s. 1 had 5 copies but wouldn't sell til tomorrow. 3 looked at the xbox games and said they had none. |
| 01:20.49 | doom0r | 2 said they'd have to order it. 1 was sold out already. The last one had 2 copies left waiting for me. |
| 01:20.59 | NivFreak | doom0r: grats :) |
| 01:21.03 | NeoTron | NivFreak: how the heck can it be uopgraded already? |
| 01:21.11 | NivFreak | NeoTron: the site is active |
| 01:21.16 | Lywellyn | doom0r: "looked at the xbox games"? I hope you slapped them. |
| 01:21.17 | NeoTron | so you can already level up? |
| 01:21.23 | NivFreak | servers are down, so no idea |
| 01:21.31 | doom0r | Lywellyn: I live in chicagoland |
| 01:21.32 | NeoTron | seems like the release is really broken |
| 01:21.34 | doom0r | plenty of idiots |
| 01:21.46 | Lywellyn | Ouch. |
| 01:21.49 | doom0r | NivFreak: thanks |
| 01:21.53 | NivFreak | NeoTron: If they are smart, nothing happens until they flip the switch tomorrow at 9PM |
| 01:22.06 | NivFreak | but what do we know about blizzard |
| 01:22.06 | NivFreak | :) |
| 01:22.12 | NeoTron | NivFreak: if the account is activated it seems weird if it wouldn't work |
| 01:22.21 | NivFreak | NeoTron: the server could still disallow it |
| 01:22.28 | Tuxbubling | is there an addon that is showing the average DPS based on build and stuff?? |
| 01:22.30 | NivFreak | I'll let you know when the servers come back up |
| 01:22.40 | Toadkiller | 1) The promised event ... could stop you |
| 01:22.50 | Toadkiller | 2) The server is king |
| 01:22.56 | NivFreak | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/12454671831-can-westcoast-people-login-900-pm-for-wotlk.html |
| 01:23.17 | NivFreak | I have a quest to turn in when the servers come back up |
| 01:23.26 | NivFreak | if I get XP, I'll be doing quests all night |
| 01:23.26 | NivFreak | heh |
| 01:23.37 | NeoTron | that only indicates that northrend will be available... |
| 01:23.41 | pompy | Tuxbubling: DrDamage probably. |
| 01:23.52 | Toadkiller | total bs having to wait 3 hours longer than new yorkers imo |
| 01:23.53 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I wouldn't be shocked if I can make a deathknight either tbh |
| 01:23.56 | doom0r | there was a talented/drdamage plugin |
| 01:24.01 | NivFreak | but the instance server could be shutdown |
| 01:24.03 | doom0r | dunno if that rolled into the base |
| 01:24.04 | Tuxbubling | pompy: you can simulate a build? |
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| 01:24.20 | pompy | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dr-damage.aspx |
| 01:24.54 | Toadkiller | crap, this is killing our final BT run, nm the sunwell we do wed & thu |
| 01:25.12 | Lywellyn | Toadkiller: our guild was going to run AQ40 tonight too. Achievement loss ftl. |
| 01:25.24 | JamesJr | They lost all the mail, forever :(\ |
| 01:25.27 | Toadkiller | noobs, we did that weeks ago |
| 01:25.28 | JamesJr | :( * |
| 01:25.41 | NivFreak | if you guys actually expected to raid from tuesday+ |
| 01:25.43 | NivFreak | you were fools |
| 01:25.44 | Jaxon | Is that what is keeping the servers offline? |
| 01:25.49 | JamesJr | Duh |
| 01:25.54 | JamesJr | They been trying to restore it |
| 01:25.57 | ausmara | Achievement loss >_> |
| 01:26.04 | ausmara | Wow that shit actually draws idiots in >_> |
| 01:26.15 | NivFreak | achievements are fun |
| 01:26.16 | Lywellyn | syeren: I resent that. |
| 01:26.22 | NivFreak | especially the old raid ones |
| 01:26.28 | NivFreak | it's a blast to go see old content |
| 01:26.32 | syeren | They're for people who aren't very good at raiding or PVP. |
| 01:26.35 | Lywellyn | NivFreak: Exactly. |
| 01:26.37 | syeren | Which means they haven't done the content. |
| 01:26.40 | syeren | Wasn't able to do it. |
| 01:26.47 | syeren | And have nothing worthwhile to do in their time. |
| 01:26.50 | NivFreak | syeren: well, I killed kiljaden this week, and I have 2300 pts, so what's your point? |
| 01:27.06 | Lywellyn | syeren: There are raid and PVP achievements too. So you have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 01:27.06 | NivFreak | also, they rewared 310% mounts in wrath |
| 01:27.07 | syeren | Killing KJ at any point after 3.0 means nothing xd |
| 01:27.07 | NivFreak | so once again... |
| 01:27.09 | Toadkiller | Oh please armchair shrinks. Achievements are nto for those people |
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| 01:27.17 | NivFreak | syeren: but it means I saw that content |
| 01:27.17 | Toadkiller | Achievements are for OCD |
| 01:27.36 | syeren | No, it means you saw some fucking script which was designed for even bigger retards to do. |
| 01:27.38 | NivFreak | sadly we only had BT clear before 3.0 |
| 01:27.41 | NivFreak | not sunwell |
| 01:27.50 | syeren | Which they wouldn't have been able to do pre-3.0 |
| 01:27.52 | NivFreak | syeren: so, you PVP don't you |
| 01:28.07 | Tuxbubling | pompy: thx i'll look into this i guess i'll have to try :p |
| 01:28.09 | syeren | I'm in a top 10 PVE guild and a high rated arena player. |
| 01:28.12 | syeren | So yes? |
| 01:28.25 | Lywellyn | syeren: well, aren't we the big man. |
| 01:28.30 | NivFreak | good for you |
| 01:28.38 | NivFreak | now stop bitching about what other people do for fun? |
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| 01:28.50 | syeren | No, I'm just saying achievements are fucking horrible and it's hard to believe people are drawn in by the horrible shit. |
| 01:29.01 | Toadkiller | syeren: I think u will find male enhancement products will work better for you |
| 01:29.03 | Neffi | Does table.wipe(tbl) return the table passed? |
| 01:29.03 | syeren | An achievement to get to level 80, TOUGH STUFF. |
| 01:29.18 | Lywellyn | Achievements give people something to do when they're otherwise bored. Like me. Ambassador Xivyr ftw. |
| 01:29.22 | doom0r | Toadkiller: i have ocd and oid, yes, achievements are great |
| 01:29.24 | NivFreak | syeren: go do heroic glory of the raider, and tell me it's a joke |
| 01:29.30 | doom0r | mods for the oid |
| 01:29.41 | Lywellyn | Granted, not ALL achievements are.....well, achievements. But yeah, some of them require real work. |
| 01:30.01 | Primer | I hear curse is hosting a dvd image torrent? |
| 01:30.05 | Primer | Is this true? |
| 01:30.12 | Toadkiller | The only tough ones I saw are the ultimate pvp one |
| 01:30.12 | Bruners | its a good overview of what you have done and not in the game |
| 01:30.30 | Primer | Toadkiller: I got Wrath of the Alliance last night. Had a blast doing it too |
| 01:30.31 | NivFreak | the heroic glory of the raider achievement will get done, don't get me wrong |
| 01:30.31 | doom0r | it's also a great tool to form a regime for farming |
| 01:30.33 | syeren | NivFreak |
| 01:30.35 | syeren | heroic glory of the raider |
| 01:30.36 | NivFreak | but it's not a walk in the park |
| 01:30.39 | syeren | Done the majority of that shit |
| 01:30.47 | syeren | With premade characters on an EU shit heap realm |
| 01:30.48 | NivFreak | syeren: the majority is not all of it |
| 01:31.01 | Toadkiller | Hey I am not knocking achievemnets, just clearing up the target market |
| 01:31.22 | NivFreak | and yes, when we have naxx clear in what, a week? wtf are you going to do until 3.1 |
| 01:31.23 | syeren | Yes, because when you play on an EU Beta realm. |
| 01:31.27 | syeren | And you have to use premades. |
| 01:31.28 | Gnarfoz | Primer: how would they be "hosting a torrent" |
| 01:31.30 | syeren | It isn't a ton of fun. |
| 01:31.38 | Nosnam | Is there a "Had all your mail deleted by Blizzard" achievement? |
| 01:31.53 | Primer | Gnarfoz: it's not hard. You setup a BT tracker, make a .torrent file, and distribute it |
| 01:31.55 | Neffi | Can somebody test something?: /run local t={}; print(table.wipe(t) == t); |
| 01:32.12 | Shirik | table.wipe? |
| 01:32.17 | Neffi | New function |
| 01:32.19 | Primer | It's new |
| 01:32.23 | Neffi | Wanna know if it returns the table passed |
| 01:32.26 | Gnarfoz | Primer: so they're not hosting anything. that's "running a tracker" >_< |
| 01:32.33 | Lywellyn | UPDATE: 5:20PM PST "The servers are currently being brought back online and should be playable by approximately 6:00PM PST. Additionally, information will be sent shortly to all characters through the in-game mail system. This message will provide further details concerning today's mail issue." |
| 01:32.38 | Toadkiller | lol, it wipes, it doesnt recreate |
| 01:32.40 | Primer | Gnarfoz: You get the gist of what I meant :) |
| 01:32.52 | Neffi | Toadkiller: Did I suggest it did? |
| 01:32.53 | harl | strange, now my Fence's create auction alt-shift-click works again. |
| 01:33.10 | Toadkiller | yes you did by testing for it |
| 01:33.16 | doom0r | * NEW - tbl = table.wipe(tbl) - removes all entries from table |
| 01:33.17 | doom0r | * NEW - tbl = wipe(tbl) - alias for table.wipe |
| 01:33.21 | Primer | Gnarfoz: I'm pulling down the mininova torrent, but it's dog ass slow |
| 01:33.40 | Neffi | Toadkiller: No, I tested to see if it returns the same thing I passed. Where did I recreate a table? |
| 01:33.48 | Toadkiller | omg. |
| 01:33.55 | syeren | Primer, I imagine more seeders will appear today :p |
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| 01:34.24 | Primer | syeren: my torrent is at 20%, and I've already pushed over 10G |
| 01:34.39 | Primer | sustaining 1.5MB/s at the moment |
| 01:34.40 | Nosnam | Primer which tracker? |
| 01:34.43 | Primer | B, not b |
| 01:34.45 | doom0r | question for the mass: can you add a ce key of any type at a later time? |
| 01:35.10 | Primer | Nosnam: sec, checking |
| 01:35.25 | Lywellyn | I can't stand torrents. They lock up my router or something so that the torrent program is the only thing allowed to use the internet connection. No other computer can access the internet, andanything else on the same machine as the torrent program can't either. |
| 01:35.42 | Toadkiller | neffi, if english is your 2nd language like it is for me I apologize. If you have some other cognitive dysfunction, same deal. If not then stop being a douche. |
| 01:35.58 | Primer | Nosnam: udp://vip.tracker.thepiratebay.org:80/announce |
| 01:36.05 | NivFreak | Lywellyn: throttle your upload |
| 01:36.08 | Nosnam | Lywellyn the problem is that you need to cap the upstream, and maybe even limit the simultaneous connections |
| 01:36.10 | Neffi | . . . . |
| 01:36.27 | Nosnam | Oh heh Primer I don't know if I would trust TPB as a source for wotlk |
| 01:36.28 | NivFreak | Primer: are you US or EU? |
| 01:36.32 | Lywellyn | I was thinking it might've been the simultaneous connections thing |
| 01:36.35 | quiescens | more likely the latter |
| 01:36.38 | Primer | Nosnam: the md5 is known |
| 01:36.39 | NivFreak | and as to the torrent for the US one on TPB |
| 01:36.41 | Nosnam | Oh, nice |
| 01:36.46 | Primer | don't think I won't be checking it :) |
| 01:36.48 | NivFreak | i grabbed it last night, and it was all null data when it finished |
| 01:36.54 | quiescens | even more likely is get a new router or update the firmware |
| 01:37.26 | Primer | http://www.mininova.org/tor/1997508 |
| 01:39.41 | Primer | which I got from here: http://wotlkwiki.info/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 01:40.31 | doom0r | man 780 usd for orig wow ce |
| 01:40.39 | Lywellyn | If anyone uses Azureus Vuze, I'd appreciate a little help in configuring it to limit incoming connections... |
| 01:41.01 | Fisker- | oh and btw NivFreak |
| 01:41.11 | Fisker- | did you ever put that account management screenshot up? :P |
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| 01:43.54 | NivFreak | Fisker-: yes |
| 01:44.03 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/niv-wrath-go.png |
| 01:45.15 | orionshock | i wonder why wotlkwiki was used instead of the wowwiki.com site... |
| 01:45.17 | orionshock | seems od |
| 01:45.19 | Primer | How did you get your cd key already? |
| 01:45.19 | orionshock | odd |
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| 01:46.04 | Primer | You have the authenticator?! |
| 01:46.04 | Mikk | orionshock: because they were posting things during closed beta that the TOS did not allow |
| 01:46.06 | Fisker- | omgogmogm |
| 01:46.19 | orionshock | ah |
| 01:46.21 | Gnarfoz | Primer: 7/11 doesn't know shit about software sales and thus didn't stick to the street date |
| 01:46.24 | Fisker- | so you can download it NivFreak or just 404? :P |
| 01:46.32 | Primer | Gnarfoz: so all 7/11's have this? |
| 01:46.42 | Mikk | orionshock: When open beta hit they should have just integrated in wowwiki, but I guess by that time they didn't want to kill their baby |
| 01:46.42 | Gnarfoz | some do. |
| 01:46.50 | Primer | There's one on my way home... |
| 01:46.54 | Knaledge | Kaelten: re your CC post... what about an addon like eePanels2 where I added custom artwork to the panel art folder (nested in the addon folder itself)? |
| 01:46.55 | Primer | pondering stopping by there |
| 01:47.31 | Knaledge | Primer: I don't get why people would be pumped to by WotLK early - you can't use it |
| 01:47.39 | durcyn | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe |
| 01:47.43 | Knaledge | I mean... maybe for an early.. install? or something? |
| 01:47.48 | Primer | buy |
| 01:47.49 | durcyn | Knaledge: you can patch your client though, so you don't have to sit through that crap |
| 01:47.59 | Knaledge | patch but you can't play |
| 01:48.02 | Knaledge | can you? |
| 01:48.07 | Knaledge | like from now until release? |
| 01:48.10 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 01:48.12 | durcyn | no, you'd have to keep a copy of current 3.0.3 |
| 01:48.14 | Gnarfoz | you can start right at 0:01 |
| 01:48.19 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: bs. |
| 01:48.26 | Knaledge | that to me is a bit pointless then |
| 01:48.28 | Gnarfoz | you can play with a full wotlk install. |
| 01:48.28 | durcyn | no? well, we'll see. |
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| 01:48.34 | Primer | Knaledge: I'm receiving mine from an amazon.com wishlist, with a "pre-order rush delivery" kinda thing, and I'm not sure I'll have it in time |
| 01:48.35 | Gnarfoz | I am playing on one right now. |
| 01:48.42 | Gnarfoz | nothing to "we'll see" about it |
| 01:48.49 | Primer | I mean, if it doesn't arrive tomorrow, I'm missing out on the big rush to Northrend |
| 01:48.58 | Primer | AND THAT JUST WON'T DO! |
| 01:49.03 | Knaledge | I ordered my CE on e-bay for $5 moe than retail, shipped |
| 01:49.04 | Gnarfoz | have 3.0.3, install wotlk (which is 3.0.1), patch to 3.0.3 again, play on live. |
| 01:49.07 | Knaledge | three of them |
| 01:49.16 | Knaledge | and honestly... I'll just use TBC client o level. |
| 01:49.22 | Knaledge | and get my CEs like next wek some time. |
| 01:49.25 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: ah, swell. thanks for sharing that information in such a polite way. |
| 01:49.33 | Knaledge | BRUN! |
| 01:49.36 | Knaledge | *BURN! even |
| 01:49.50 | Nosnam | I'm going to stand in the wal-mart release line :( |
| 01:50.00 | Gnarfoz | well stating belief as fact doesn't sit well with me :p |
| 01:50.14 | Knaledge | typical narcissist. |
| 01:50.17 | Primer | wtf is CE? |
| 01:50.18 | balstor | Why does "There will be an in-game mail sent to all players concerning the mail issues today. " worry me |
| 01:50.20 | Knaledge | gnarcissist |
| 01:50.23 | doom0r | collector's edition |
| 01:50.26 | Primer | oh |
| 01:50.32 | Primer | bah, who cares about that crap |
| 01:50.36 | Gnarfoz | Knaledge: oh i c what you did there |
| 01:50.38 | quiescens | I'm going to.. walk into a shop a couple days later and buy it? |
| 01:50.39 | Primer | I just want to play, not look at a box |
| 01:50.40 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: ping |
| 01:50.41 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 01:51.14 | Knaledge | I still don't see why everyone is in a mad rush to get the game day 1... at least the "line" people. For WoW anyhow |
| 01:51.28 | Knaledge | I mean maybe the asians and those who want to ruin new content by powerleveling.. |
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| 01:51.33 | Primer | because it's exciting! |
| 01:51.34 | Knaledge | or those who ruined it for themselves in the beta |
| 01:51.42 | Knaledge | althoguh ruin is very subjective. |
| 01:51.46 | NeoTron | Knaledge: it's called anticipation |
| 01:51.50 | Gnarfoz | or maybe those who find it fun even though they're powerleveling? :D |
| 01:51.58 | Knaledge | I guess |
| 01:52.01 | Knaledge | no doubt to each his own |
| 01:52.02 | Gnarfoz | or those who find it fun *because* they're powerleveling? :p |
| 01:52.07 | Gnarfoz | etc. etc. ;) |
| 01:52.19 | Nosnam | We want to get it the second it comes out, so we can hurry up and be the first one to install it and look at the "Realm Down" messages |
| 01:52.30 | Knaledge | yeah, exactly ^^ |
| 01:52.33 | Antiarc | http://i37.tinypic.com/23po3k.jpg |
| 01:52.36 | Antiarc | That's one of my guildmates |
| 01:52.42 | Knaledge | really, with WoW being as big as it is... it's like who cares anymore. |
| 01:52.47 | Gnarfoz | us servers are known for being unstable, right? :D |
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| 01:53.27 | NeoTron | Antiarc: wtf no DK? |
| 01:53.38 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: got two of those on our server, two |
| 01:53.41 | Gnarfoz | *too xD |
| 01:53.41 | Antiarc | Not yet, but I'm sure she'll make it 10 level 80s inside of 2 weeks |
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| 01:54.40 | Torhal | Antiarc: Two Mages? Heh |
| 01:54.52 | Antiarc | One's her mule/bank alt |
| 01:55.06 | Torhal | At level 42? Helluva mule |
| 01:55.07 | Knaledge | anyone playing Fallout 3? |
| 01:55.07 | Torhal | :D |
| 01:55.09 | NeoTron | Antiarc: two weeks? I doubt that's even possible |
| 01:55.13 | NeoTron | with one account that is |
| 01:55.26 | Antiarc | I may be exaggerating a bit |
| 01:55.35 | Antiarc | But still. I'm impressed. |
| 01:55.40 | Antiarc | I tend to focus all my effort into one character |
| 01:55.42 | kagaro | anyone got a link to the mac version of teh wrath client? |
| 01:55.59 | Knaledge | kagaro - should be able to divine the mac link just like you could for TBC |
| 01:56.02 | balstor | 2 weeks she should get 4 to 80 , no problem |
| 01:56.09 | Knaledge | it's usually named identical to Win version but .dmb |
| 01:56.12 | Knaledge | *.dmg |
| 01:56.22 | Knaledge | or something_installer.app |
| 01:56.36 | Knaledge | and usually on the same server as the windows version... let me try. |
| 01:56.43 | Knaledge | link to windows version? |
| 01:58.04 | doom0r | lol, my buddy just tried getting wotlk from the 7-11 his mom's friend works at, i bought the last two there |
| 01:59.17 | kagaro | I tried but got bubkiss |
| 01:59.58 | Codayus | Knaledge: Fallout 3? Yeah. |
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| 02:01.26 | chiper | yes, we have no servers. we still have no servers today |
| 02:02.23 | doom0r | lol, the thanks to section int he wotlk manual includes: Jehovah, Goggle, FM Radio, and Pandora Radio |
| 02:02.47 | chiper | I hit every 7-11 between work and home. alas, only one was selling video games, and WotLK was not available |
| 02:02.52 | Codayus | Heh, yay for pandora... |
| 02:03.08 | doom0r | it's huge |
| 02:03.11 | doom0r | there's some funny ones |
| 02:04.26 | Gngsk | chiper, google maps and a telephone. |
| 02:04.39 | NivFreak | which is exactly what I did |
| 02:04.40 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 02:04.50 | Gngsk | same, great results :P |
| 02:04.51 | chiper | meh, I dont need it that badly |
| 02:04.56 | NivFreak | it was less effort |
| 02:04.58 | NivFreak | I promise |
| 02:05.18 | chiper | besides, it's not like I could get on the servers anyway |
| 02:05.53 | doom0r | #13 is Our great AddOn Community |
| 02:06.00 | doom0r | congratulates the devs |
| 02:06.31 | orionshock | "[Starfall ....] isn't intended to be used as a minesweeper." LOL |
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| 02:07.18 | Antiarc | Starfall is broken |
| 02:07.33 | orionshock | Antiarc: u play rouge? |
| 02:07.36 | Antiarc | 30-yard radius auto-unstealth-with-stun ability is broken as hell |
| 02:07.36 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 02:07.58 | orionshock | well, good thing that druid is the least play'ed class and balance is the bastard child... |
| 02:08.27 | Primer | played is a word |
| 02:09.03 | orionshock | right.. i know, but i use |
| 02:09.09 | orionshock | ' as inflections sometimes |
| 02:09.55 | Primer | playéd? |
| 02:10.26 | orionshock | 'xpt that i don't know how to make the funny e letter on this keyboard :P |
| 02:10.42 | Lywellyn | bah, past 6pm and still no server....but it's not listed at all. |
| 02:10.45 | NivFreak | I'm still pissed that typhoon dismounts |
| 02:10.49 | NivFreak | I mean wtf... |
| 02:11.03 | orionshock | NivFreak: i think all the knockbacks dismount |
| 02:11.08 | sylvanaar | at least it does something |
| 02:11.10 | doom0r | You know, where everything has a question mark at the end of it? With an upward inflection? At the end of every sentence? |
| 02:11.24 | Primer | ¿ |
| 02:11.33 | sylvanaar | knocking you back 3 ft doesnt really accomplish much otherwise |
| 02:11.49 | orionshock | sylvanaar: spell cast interupt |
| 02:11.59 | sylvanaar | interrupt |
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| 02:12.22 | orionshock | bah, i can't spell... |
| 02:12.25 | sylvanaar | its like 1/4 of the time |
| 02:12.27 | orionshock | or type |
| 02:12.31 | NivFreak | dismounting == bullshit |
| 02:12.37 | sylvanaar | i thought you were asking me to spell interrupt |
| 02:12.51 | NivFreak | nothing like being dismounted in the air |
| 02:13.14 | sylvanaar | yeah, what class do you play? |
| 02:13.25 | NivFreak | warrior/priest/paladin/hunter |
| 02:14.09 | sylvanaar | i could complain about every one of those probably. |
| 02:14.15 | NivFreak | let me rephrase |
| 02:14.21 | doom0r | qq, my wotlk box just gave me a cardboard grade papercut |
| 02:14.26 | NivFreak | prot warrior / holy priest / prot paladin / BM hunter |
| 02:14.47 | NeoTron | doom0r: " |
| 02:14.52 | NeoTron | "qq I have a wotlk box" |
| 02:15.00 | sylvanaar | yeah really |
| 02:15.03 | sylvanaar | show off |
| 02:15.30 | NeoTron | are the EU realms up yet? |
| 02:15.53 | sacarasc | eu realms were never down... |
| 02:16.02 | NeoTron | oh |
| 02:16.14 | NeoTron | so anyone in EU ahve a key or is this early thing 7/11 specific? :P |
| 02:16.35 | kenlyric | 7-11 |
| 02:16.38 | sacarasc | i don't :( |
| 02:16.43 | kenlyric | 7/11 is an *entirely* different kind of place! |
| 02:16.52 | Primer | altogether |
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| 02:17.20 | sylvanaar | what are they doing, bringing up the LK enabled servers? |
| 02:17.22 | kenlyric | DON'T CORRECT ME BOY I AM CLASSICALLY TRAINED IN IRC |
| 02:17.44 | doom0r | 7-1 box sales is simply because 7-11 employess in general are fail |
| 02:17.48 | NeoTron | that's what I'm curious to know |
| 02:17.50 | doom0r | ~epic fail 7-11 |
| 02:17.51 | purl | 7-11, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you 7-11, you are that epic failure. |
| 02:17.54 | Primer | It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether |
| 02:18.03 | sylvanaar | could it not have waited until tomorrow? |
| 02:18.04 | NeoTron | I'm considering checking my neighbourhood 7/11 |
| 02:18.43 | doom0r | sighs |
| 02:18.54 | doom0r | the us realms are almost completely offline again |
| 02:18.57 | smcn | out of the 2 closest 7/11's, one doesn't sell games, the other is obeying street date, so looks like i'm going to be spending a few hours at the mall tomorrow ;P |
| 02:18.59 | doom0r | looks like hard resets still |
| 02:19.00 | Primer | again? |
| 02:19.03 | Primer | they were never up |
| 02:19.18 | doom0r | the list is populated with only 3 servers total now |
| 02:19.18 | sylvanaar | they added another hour |
| 02:19.30 | Kilroo | quick question, because I'm being lazy. I think I used to have something that would do this. Suppose I want to know either a calculated crit chance of a specific attack, or how often that attack has been getting a crit when I actually use it. Does an addon spring to mind for either or both of those? |
| 02:19.30 | doom0r | rather auth servers are down looks like |
| 02:19.47 | Kilroo | I'm gonna laugh if I already have something installed that should do that... |
| 02:20.05 | doom0r | dr damage? |
| 02:20.18 | sylvanaar | recount |
| 02:20.36 | doom0r | respectively |
| 02:20.53 | sylvanaar | im just adding to the list |
| 02:21.00 | Kilroo | recount sounds familiar enough that I bet it's the one I was trying to remember. |
| 02:21.08 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r118 / (2 files in 1 directory): Collaborate with myself. |
| 02:21.20 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 07waypoints * r119 / (2 files in 1 directory): Collaborate with myself. |
| 02:21.36 | doom0r | well, recount is a damage/healing meter style mod |
| 02:21.50 | doom0r | and dr damage shows expected damage |
| 02:21.58 | Kilroo | Dr Damage, now that I actually read part of its WoWI page, I was apparently just clueless about. |
| 02:22.00 | doom0r | and i think it has options to show with crit and all that |
| 02:22.17 | doom0r | basically adds values to the tooltip and/or button |
| 02:22.25 | doom0r | so you can expect what kind of dmg an attack will do |
| 02:22.26 | Kilroo | I see that |
| 02:22.33 | Kilroo | I wonder what the heck I thought it was doing? |
| 02:22.40 | doom0r | say, base value, talents/ap/crit modifiers |
| 02:22.42 | sylvanaar | yeah, like the old theorycraft |
| 02:22.49 | doom0r | exactly |
| 02:22.59 | Dalamar1991 | DrDamage's WoWI page is out of date, btw. |
| 02:22.59 | sylvanaar | though the client provides some of that itself now |
| 02:23.04 | Dalamar1991 | there's a beta out on curse. |
| 02:23.09 | HunterZ0 | what does "collaborate with myself" mean? |
| 02:23.15 | sylvanaar | dont ask |
| 02:23.18 | Kilroo | I was noticing the last release listed was rather old |
| 02:23.26 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: does it factor in the talents properly? |
| 02:23.29 | sylvanaar | we made it this long without mentioning it |
| 02:23.30 | Dalamar1991 | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dr-damage.aspx |
| 02:23.32 | Primer | HunterZ0: It means I develop at work and at home |
| 02:23.38 | Dalamar1991 | mostly? |
| 02:23.41 | Primer | HunterZ0: and I commit at work, and update at home |
| 02:23.44 | Kilroo | I try not to go to Curse to read -about- addons, even if I have to go there to get them, because my hair is too short to pull out conveniently |
| 02:23.52 | doom0r | good enough :P |
| 02:23.57 | Dalamar1991 | it's a work in progress. there are calculation issues. but it should rarely be more than 10% off at most. |
| 02:23.58 | Kilroo | and that's what Curse's addon pages make me want to do, compared to WoWI. |
| 02:24.09 | Primer | and then commit again with the same message, as long as the feature/fix/whatever is not complete |
| 02:24.26 | sylvanaar | i just use the CC, lol |
| 02:24.35 | Dalamar1991 | well, unfortunately, i only have access to update the curse page. :( |
| 02:24.55 | Primer | and I _still_ don't see how GIT solves this |
| 02:25.31 | Primer | My understanding is that GIT has commit hooks too, which apply to branches as well |
| 02:25.43 | Primer | so unless repo doesn't report GIT branches... |
| 02:27.09 | Dalamar1991 | sylvanaar... i recognize the name... |
| 02:27.22 | mort | !wunsch alanis morissette |
| 02:27.32 | Dalamar1991 | prat! |
| 02:27.45 | sylvanaar | =) |
| 02:27.54 | Dalamar1991 | which reminds me... |
| 02:27.57 | Primer | me too |
| 02:28.05 | Primer | prat never shows profiles to copy from |
| 02:28.09 | Dalamar1991 | since a recent version... my chat keeps defaulting to 14pt font. :( |
| 02:28.10 | Primer | is that fixed yet? |
| 02:28.16 | sylvanaar | um |
| 02:28.46 | sylvanaar | i didnt know it was broken |
| 02:28.50 | Primer | the drop down is tall enough to accommodate 20 profiles, yet, it's empty |
| 02:29.06 | Primer | I'd just like all my toons to share the same profile |
| 02:29.22 | sylvanaar | they probabaly do |
| 02:29.24 | Primer | or must I explicitly set a profile before one shows up in "copy from"? |
| 02:29.26 | Dalamar1991 | mine all do. i'm not seeing that issue. |
| 02:29.27 | Primer | they don't |
| 02:29.34 | Arrowmaster | copy will be empty unless you actually have multiple profiles |
| 02:29.46 | Primer | another thing is, my tabs randomly disappear, except they're still there if I click on where they should be |
| 02:30.39 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r34 options.lua: tracking for naxx boss enounters |
| 02:31.06 | sylvanaar | mine seem ok |
| 02:31.20 | Dalamar1991 | any idea what's up with my chat font resetting to 14pt each time i reload? |
| 02:31.21 | Primer | I'll try to replicate it all with screen shots and submit a ticket |
| 02:31.24 | break19 | is bored. |
| 02:31.36 | sylvanaar | what should it be Dalamar1991 |
| 02:31.36 | Dalamar1991 | i have to manually set each frame to 12pt every time i log in. =/ |
| 02:31.52 | break19 | writes an addon called ShortBus - upon login "/yell I just rode into town on the short bus, and need to find someone to play with!" |
| 02:31.54 | sylvanaar | and what version are you talking about |
| 02:32.18 | sylvanaar | because i changed the font code just today |
| 02:32.22 | Dalamar1991 | it started in around Beta 11? |
| 02:32.32 | Dalamar1991 | and the latest I have is RC1 |
| 02:32.52 | sylvanaar | well i changed it in RC2 |
| 02:32.56 | Dalamar1991 | servers are down or i'd give RC3 a try. just wondering if it's a known issue. |
| 02:33.02 | Dalamar1991 | ok, cool :) |
| 02:34.56 | sylvanaar | some ppl are having problems with RC3 idk, its so hard to get helpful info out of them sometimes |
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| 02:35.29 | doom0r | be advised the wotlk install music is retardedly loud |
| 02:35.31 | Dalamar1991 | other than the font issue and the top-half of frames not showing text (which i see has been fixed), i've had no issues with prat. |
| 02:35.43 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth * r57 GridStatusMissingBuffs.lua: |
| 02:35.43 | Repo | -- Restore Blessing of Sanctuary and Greater Blessing of Sanctuary. |
| 02:35.44 | Repo | -- Remove Blessing of Salvation and Greater Blessing of Salvation |
| 02:35.44 | sylvanaar | well be prepared lol |
| 02:35.49 | Dalamar1991 | hehe |
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| 02:36.56 | break19 | meh. im gonna go play civ3.. bbl |
| 02:37.30 | break19 | .. or maybe moo2.. or .. meh. solitaire it is |
| 02:37.44 | Fasti | moo3 ftw |
| 02:37.58 | Fasti | I can't see how moo2 is better |
| 02:38.00 | break19 | blech |
| 02:38.09 | Fasti | yes bleach and golgo is out |
| 02:38.23 | sylvanaar | oh, um. i bet i know why the font size changes each login |
| 02:38.25 | break19 | moo3 and civ4.. too much micromanagement... |
| 02:38.32 | Dalamar1991 | yea? |
| 02:38.34 | Fasti | ?! |
| 02:38.35 | Dalamar1991 | pebkac? |
| 02:38.38 | sylvanaar | if i call :RegisterDefaults() does it erase my db? |
| 02:38.53 | Fasti | just do it correctly when you settle a plant = done |
| 02:39.01 | Fasti | easy |
| 02:39.31 | Fasti | only thing that is bothering thou, if there's more ships than maximum can be at fight, they can skip that system >< |
| 02:39.40 | Dalamar1991 | erase it? |
| 02:39.43 | Dalamar1991 | not as far as i'm aware |
| 02:40.21 | break19 | Fasti: I do like the combat system for moo3.. but.. meh |
| 02:40.57 | Fasti | altough some modding and you can bring 2-3times more ships :P |
| 02:41.01 | Fasti | in combat |
| 02:41.09 | Lex | need opinions: what's the best trash respawn timer addon? |
| 02:42.05 | Toadkiller | lol moo1 & moo2 were good. moo3 was the first game I looked forward, bought, and then wanted to return. |
| 02:42.14 | Toadkiller | *to |
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| 02:42.37 | Fasti | I tried moo3 first, then looked at moo2, puke |
| 02:42.44 | Lex | i love master of orion 2 so much. |
| 02:43.04 | Fasti | moo3 ftw |
| 02:43.22 | break19 | fasti: lol. I played the original moo, then as soon as moo2 came out, bought it. then when moo3 came out, bought it. |
| 02:43.31 | break19 | regretted the last one, really.. |
| 02:43.45 | Toadkiller | it wa sjust so retarded |
| 02:43.48 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r130 modules/Font.lua: |
| 02:43.49 | Fasti | moo2 just didn't have enough options |
| 02:43.49 | Repo | don't bother with trying to dynamically set font size defaults. |
| 02:44.12 | break19 | fasti: moo1 was awesome, and awesomely simple. |
| 02:44.15 | sylvanaar | yeah the moos were good |
| 02:44.29 | Dalamar1991 | i only ever played moo3. i loved it. |
| 02:44.36 | Fasti | moo3 rox because of so much more options :) |
| 02:44.40 | Toadkiller | 1 & 2 were good. 3 was total & utter donkey pie |
| 02:44.50 | Dalamar1991 | then it was awesome donkey pie. |
| 02:44.58 | break19 | fasti: and thats why I dont like it. too complex to actually enjoy just.. playing. |
| 02:45.01 | Dalamar1991 | because i wasted many hours playing it. |
| 02:45.16 | Toadkiller | if you love your donkey thats fine, every man has to live with his choices in life |
| 02:45.18 | Lex | break19: agreed with you. |
| 02:47.02 | Fasti | moo3 has good mods |
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| 02:47.26 | Fasti | still the muhhs that you can skip systems even if you lost |
| 02:48.35 | Toadkiller | Speaking of crappy space sims, Spore is quite the pile of Donkey stuff as well |
| 02:48.51 | Dalamar1991 | in your opinion. |
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| 02:49.03 | Fasti | ye spore sucks from deep |
| 02:49.13 | Toadkiller | true, if its the very first game you ever played it may seem neat |
| 02:49.13 | Fasti | might work for those you want to get deep |
| 02:49.33 | break19 | toad.. maybe you can remember the name of this game? you played against up to 4 players, was a turn based combat game. you could build militaries.. naval fleets, with aircraft, if you lost your mobile command center, you lost..... |
| 02:49.48 | break19 | it was a DOS game.. I cannot for the life of me, remember the name of it... |
| 02:50.07 | Toadkiller | empire? didnt have mobile command tho |
| 02:50.33 | Dalamar1991 | i've played hundreds of games in my life. i still think spore is a decent way to spend 4 hours of your life. |
| 02:50.40 | Toadkiller | only mobile I have seen besides terran is in Supreme Commander etc. |
| 02:50.45 | break19 | no. wasnt empire.. you'd give the armies, and or fleets a destination, and they'd move there on their own at every turn... |
| 02:50.46 | Dalamar1991 | just because it's not an 8/10 game doesn't mean it isn't worth playing |
| 02:51.19 | Toadkiller | Spore is decent for those 4 hours, ... once. |
| 02:51.25 | break19 | gah.. I played that game like crazy with a buddy of mine over the college network, back in 94. |
| 02:51.44 | Toadkiller | command and conquer? |
| 02:51.50 | Dalamar1991 | lol, no |
| 02:51.51 | break19 | no. that was realtime |
| 02:51.59 | break19 | the one im thinking of was turnbased |
| 02:52.16 | Dalamar1991 | did it use tokens for units? |
| 02:52.18 | Toadkiller | xcom ufo defense! |
| 02:52.31 | Dalamar1991 | like little square icons? |
| 02:52.52 | Dalamar1991 | i played xcom for years.... |
| 02:53.09 | doom0r | anyone have any experience with steelseries headsets? |
| 02:53.10 | Toadkiller | Yeah they done good with that game |
| 02:53.36 | Dalamar1991 | and no game i've played since, save for Silent Storm has come even close to its godliness. |
| 02:53.37 | Toadkiller | steel that the 5.1 headsets for $300? |
| 02:53.41 | Lex | does anyone know the wow login screen news URL? i saw someone post it yesterday |
| 02:54.07 | break19 | Toadkiller: bingo! google ftw. http://www.freebase.com/view/guid/9202a8c04000641f80000000046da46c |
| 02:54.44 | break19 | noo, thatgs not it |
| 02:54.45 | break19 | :( |
| 02:55.04 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r131 modules/Font.lua: unhook when disabling the font module |
| 02:55.06 | doom0r | http://www.steelseries.com/us/products/audio |
| 02:55.14 | Toadkiller | mmm missed that one but I was in a startup at the time and I believe we had an exclusive diet of Doom at the time |
| 02:55.16 | doom0r | nah, they're like turtle beach |
| 02:55.35 | doom0r | not like sennheiser or other audiophile grade |
| 02:55.40 | doom0r | i can't afford that =\ |
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| 02:56.29 | Dalamar1991 | a buddy of mine has the 5H |
| 02:56.44 | doom0r | mmm, diets and DooM, i had an exclusive Dr. Pepper diet in the DooM days |
| 02:57.05 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: how's the mics? and what's it like when you pull it out of the headset? |
| 02:57.09 | selckin1 | "prof gaming gear" = "same old double priced" |
| 02:57.27 | doom0r | for some |
| 02:57.42 | doom0r | but most of the norm stuff is worse than it was a few years ago because of that marketing gimmick |
| 02:58.00 | Dalamar1991 | i didn't actually use the mic, i just played with it. |
| 02:58.13 | Dalamar1991 | the headphones themselves are kinda bleh, in my opinion. |
| 02:58.17 | doom0r | well, any idea how it sounds? like have you been on the other end? |
| 02:58.25 | doom0r | (no pun intended) |
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| 02:58.50 | Dalamar1991 | sounds like a decent mic when i speak to him. same as any 20$ logitech headset mic to be honest. |
| 02:59.15 | doom0r | that's a big concern for me |
| 02:59.20 | doom0r | other is the actual fit/feel |
| 02:59.37 | Toadkiller | The golden rule for headsets is: the cheaper it is the better unless you are a recording artist or something. |
| 02:59.38 | doom0r | i use a cheap altec lansing atm because it's the only decent fit/feel |
| 02:59.58 | doom0r | no cloth covers and it's a studio style with big enough cups for my ears |
| 03:00.14 | doom0r | Toadkiller: hardcore fps player? |
| 03:00.20 | Dalamar1991 | not as comfortable as my bose QC3s |
| 03:00.23 | Toadkiller | I bought some fancy $250 headset. It did sound good, but it was so hot it cooked my head. I had to dump it and go with a $12.99 one from Best Buy |
| 03:00.54 | doom0r | the grey zone is ~ 70$ - 400$ |
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| 03:01.14 | doom0r | the real high end sennheiser and other aircraft/studio sets are nice |
| 03:01.25 | doom0r | they don't just market crap |
| 03:01.28 | Dalamar1991 | when it comes to chatting online for raids and crap, i honestly just use a 20$ logitech headset. the sound quality is good enough for raid speech, and the mic is the same. |
| 03:01.55 | doom0r | stress on ears/head is a big deal when you have it on for many hours however |
| 03:02.02 | Dalamar1991 | you really don't need a 200$ headset for that, unless you're REALLY into listening to people's voices... |
| 03:02.16 | Toadkiller | doom0r: Dude, we bought dual Voodoo graphics cards, solely for playing Doom / Quake and upgraded them every new card release. |
| 03:02.25 | doom0r | lol |
| 03:02.38 | Dalamar1991 | well, like i said, in terms of comfort, for me personally, i didn't find the 5H as comfortable as my Bose QC3s. |
| 03:02.53 | Dalamar1991 | but the QC3 isn't a headset. so clearly it isn't an option. |
| 03:05.28 | Toadkiller | New fps game releases halted coding for at least a week |
| 03:06.33 | Toadkiller | yeah cheap usb headset + remove the cloth cover so you have cool plastic on ear action is the way to go |
| 03:06.34 | Dalamar1991 | "This headset has been used by talented gamers to win major international events like Electronic Sports World Cup, World e-Sport Games, World Series of Video Games, Kode 5, World Cyber Games, Samsung Euro Championship, ESL Extreme Masters and many others." |
| 03:06.59 | Dalamar1991 | i love how they make it sound like the gamers won in part because of some inherent awesome quality in the headsets... |
| 03:07.07 | doom0r | Toadkiller: voodoo's ftw, bust those back out and run doom 3 http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1462 |
| 03:07.28 | doom0r | ya, same thing with most hardware |
| 03:07.31 | Toadkiller | The one I got actually had 5 discrete speakers for each ear so it could do surround |
| 03:07.34 | doom0r | i use an mx310 as my mouse of choice |
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| 03:07.51 | Toadkiller | It also would be a fantastic earmuff for snowboarding |
| 03:10.25 | break19 | doom0r: I used to have one of these: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/166&cl=us,en - and I miss it ever so much :( |
| 03:10.52 | Jaxon | Anyone happen to kno wanything about Windows Vista and multiple, different brand, video adaptors? |
| 03:11.13 | Toadkiller | Theres always someone that prefers to hold a ball in the crowd ;-p |
| 03:11.37 | break19 | Toadkiller: I'm married, so I'm used to holding my balls |
| 03:11.41 | Dalamar1991 | 2 days before wrath, and servers have been down all day... |
| 03:11.48 | doom0r | i think i was colder watching the wotlk intro than if i was actually in northrend |
| 03:11.56 | Toadkiller | lol, have mre kids, you have too much time on your hands |
| 03:12.13 | break19 | one is enough. |
| 03:12.35 | doom0r | ewwww trackman |
| 03:12.42 | doom0r | reg trackballs are ok |
| 03:12.47 | break19 | but i wouldnt trade her for anything. :) |
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| 03:13.08 | doom0r | i got a buddy that plays cs at semi-pro level iwth a norm trackball |
| 03:13.15 | Dalamar1991 | Jaxon: such as? |
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| 03:13.36 | break19 | doom0r: man.. you'd be surprised how good I was at fps's and such, when I had my trackman, now I'm using some $10 walmart special. |
| 03:13.44 | doom0r | Jaxon: different brands or different manufacs? |
| 03:14.05 | doom0r | i have 2 nvidia's of different chipsets |
| 03:14.10 | doom0r | works fine in all os's |
| 03:14.20 | Jaxon | ATi and nVidia. I have more experience in the last 10 years with Linux and OS9/OSX |
| 03:14.22 | doom0r | cept osx |
| 03:14.27 | Jaxon | But not much from Vista |
| 03:14.32 | Dalamar1991 | i've 2 nvidias and 3 atis |
| 03:14.41 | doom0r | one box? |
| 03:14.44 | Jaxon | And under Linux/OSX I have one monitor hooked up to each card. |
| 03:14.54 | Dalamar1991 | 3 |
| 03:14.56 | doom0r | ya, it's easy in nix |
| 03:15.04 | Jaxon | But Vista won't let me run both cards at a time because of different drivers. |
| 03:15.09 | Jaxon | I'm wondering if there is a workaround. |
| 03:15.09 | doom0r | drivers can be a serious issue in win |
| 03:15.27 | Jaxon | doom0r: xorg.conf is the stuff of nightmares, but yeah, been easier than vista so far. |
| 03:15.32 | Gnarfoz | ~seen zeksie |
| 03:15.33 | purl | zeksie is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'mmm. AceGUIWidget-InlineGroup. Think it would be ok to change the OnAcquire to reset the border/backdrop colours.. ?'. |
| 03:15.33 | Dalamar1991 | it shouldn't be an issue, jaxon. i've done it before. |
| 03:15.41 | Dalamar1991 | as long as they're pci-e |
| 03:15.55 | doom0r | bah, xorg.conf is cake |
| 03:15.56 | Gnarfoz | meh Zeksie |
| 03:16.04 | Zeksie | wut |
| 03:16.20 | Jaxon | Dalamar1991: I'm using Boot Camp to boot to Vista, but, like I said, it won't let me activate both video adapters at the same time. |
| 03:16.21 | harl | i don't get it. now for some reason Fence doesn't remember buyout values anymore. |
| 03:16.23 | doom0r | xrandr causes issues |
| 03:16.39 | Dalamar1991 | Jaxon: which cards? |
| 03:16.46 | Gnarfoz | Zeksie: utopia breaks or is broken if: Auc-Advanced (just the core, no modules, + dependencies (enhtooltip, stubby)) and SickOfClickingDailies are present. |
| 03:17.14 | Gnarfoz | Zeksie: (regarding the error reports from recently.) if either auc-adv or SOCD is turned off, it starts working |
| 03:17.30 | Zeksie | wierd... must be a naming conflict i guess |
| 03:17.41 | Gnarfoz | couldn't find why, auc is neither ace3 nor does it use anything else that utopia uses too |
| 03:18.04 | Zeksie | guess I'll have to look at it :| |
| 03:18.10 | Zeksie | but thanks for narrowing down the problem :) |
| 03:18.31 | Arrowmaster | probably a global variable being used by both |
| 03:18.36 | Gnarfoz | sure, :> for now I'll turn off SOCD^^ |
| 03:18.41 | Zeksie | Arrowmaster: yeh, my guess. |
| 03:18.46 | Kilroo | I'll refrain from getting started on linux video drivers |
| 03:18.53 | harl | how to stop Utopia from spamming my chat with SPELL_AURA_APPLIED messages? |
| 03:19.04 | Gnarfoz | 's there an easy way to find all globals used by an addon? |
| 03:19.06 | Zeksie | harl: don't download alpha versions |
| 03:19.07 | Jaxon | Dalamar1991: A nVidia GeForce 8800 GT and ATi Radeon 1950 XT |
| 03:19.13 | harl | Zeksie: ok |
| 03:19.16 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: luac |
| 03:19.45 | Kilroo | suffice to say that as soon as I consider a Radeon hd 4870 to be cheap enough to be worth it, I'm probably switching back to ATI |
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| 03:20.13 | Dalamar1991 | Jaxon: are both showing up without conflict in device manager? |
| 03:20.26 | Jaxon | Dalamar1991: one is always disabled. If I enable it, it'll disable the other. |
| 03:20.28 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: and grep for SETGLOBAL? |
| 03:20.42 | Arrowmaster | or get |
| 03:20.51 | Arrowmaster | its luac -l i think |
| 03:20.55 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's -l |
| 03:21.48 | Gnarfoz | lol stupid luac + BOM = fail |
| 03:21.49 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 03:22.07 | Dalamar1991 | Jaxon: and i assume you only get the output ports for the currently active card in the dropdown on the display settings panel? |
| 03:22.07 | Jaxon | Dalamar1991: I've found an article on the Microsoft KB that Vista won't allow multiple cards with WDDM drivers to be active at the same time, I'd need to force it to run XP drivers and forego all the new vista accelerated interface stuff. |
| 03:22.19 | Jaxon | Dalamar1991: right. |
| 03:23.07 | doom0r | i was just reading that |
| 03:23.52 | doom0r | one that the bios chooses is the one you get |
| 03:24.01 | doom0r | if wddm |
| 03:24.26 | Jaxon | doom0r: Yeah, I'm just wondering if there is a "safety" switch I can hit somewhere in the registry or something, that'll let me use both. |
| 03:24.41 | doom0r | good luck, that thing is evil |
| 03:24.46 | Dalamar1991 | Jaxon: I'm certain I've done it before with a Radeon HD 2600 and and nvidia 8600 |
| 03:25.07 | Dalamar1991 | and i recall it being a non-issue. it just worked. |
| 03:25.08 | Jaxon | Okay, I'll keep looking, thanks for the glint of hope ;) |
| 03:25.10 | doom0r | my suggestion would be to look towards ngo and omega |
| 03:25.29 | Jaxon | Omega, the non-ATI drivers? |
| 03:25.46 | Dalamar1991 | they're ati-based. |
| 03:25.52 | Dalamar1991 | but hacked, yes. |
| 03:27.26 | Jaxon | Alright, thanks. |
| 03:27.34 | Dalamar1991 | you have monitors plugged into both, yes? |
| 03:27.48 | Jaxon | One into each. That way I can run accelerated stuff on each card. |
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| 03:28.28 | Dalamar1991 | i'm not sure how the acceleration works. |
| 03:28.38 | Jaxon | Actually, two into one of them, I hooked up my TV, I just don't remember which one I plugged it in to, the ATi or nVidida |
| 03:28.41 | doom0r | it's a nightmare |
| 03:28.43 | Dalamar1991 | obviously you can't have both cards acceleration the same app/game across both screens |
| 03:28.50 | Dalamar1991 | *accelerating |
| 03:29.09 | Dalamar1991 | for that you would need CF/SLI and appropriate cards. |
| 03:29.15 | doom0r | the whole design for accelerated graphic frameworks is flawed big time |
| 03:29.22 | doom0r | but market drives development direction |
| 03:29.24 | Lisimba | Depends on your 3D engine, some can do that that way. |
| 03:29.27 | Jaxon | I'm not looking to span a single application, but get full hardware rendering on seperate applications on both displays. |
| 03:29.40 | Dalamar1991 | and given that there isn't any way to assign an application's vid acceleration to a specific card, i'd imagine only one of them would be capable of real acceleration. |
| 03:30.08 | Lex | Jaxon: if you find a solution, let me know. :P i have an old video card i'd like to use for my secondary monitor. |
| 03:30.09 | doom0r | ya, that's the bad part |
| 03:30.23 | Dalamar1991 | but in terms of displaying your desktop and non-accelerated programs, i've done it before, so i'm sure it's possible. |
| 03:30.24 | doom0r | i can accel both of my cards with different chipsets in nix |
| 03:30.34 | Jaxon | Lex: it isn't something I'm going to pursue with much vigor, my current seutp works great under OSX |
| 03:30.35 | Lisimba | Dalamar1991: what about all the games that let you choose your card when they start? GTA3 for example. |
| 03:30.36 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: don't install any drivers |
| 03:31.17 | Dalamar1991 | Lisimba: fair enough. i'm still not certain vista supports acceleration on more than one card at a time. |
| 03:31.21 | Jaxon | I mean, I could "fix" the whole problem by plugging the hp monitor into the ATi card with the Acer, but that isn't really a fix. |
| 03:31.49 | Dalamar1991 | doom0r: nix is more awesome than windows. but that doesn't help the issue at hand. |
| 03:32.34 | doom0r | depending on what layer each is using, you may be able to get acceleration on both simultaneously with different processes |
| 03:32.53 | doom0r | i.e. gl directx |
| 03:32.58 | Dalamar1991 | IF the wddm has support for doing so. |
| 03:33.12 | Jaxon | Which, according to this KB article, it doesn't. |
| 03:33.47 | Jaxon | http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/display/multimonVista.mspx |
| 03:34.07 | Zeksie | Gnarfoz: did what u said. and it's still working.. |
| 03:34.09 | Dalamar1991 | but in terms of simple unaccelerated (non-aero) desktop display, that's doable for sure unless i was tripping out for the 2 weeks i ran the setup. |
| 03:34.28 | Zeksie | plus didn't find reference to any of Utopia's globals in either mod |
| 03:35.26 | sylvanaar | wow 120GB SSD $400 |
| 03:35.35 | doom0r | too much |
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| 03:36.11 | doom0r | i couldn't see the return on that |
| 03:36.29 | Dalamar1991 | SSD isn't worth it yet. |
| 03:36.59 | Dalamar1991 | there's way too much conflicting information as to whether it really is superior or not... i wouldn't throw out 400$ to find out. |
| 03:37.00 | Shirik | Sure it is |
| 03:37.02 | Shirik | just not for computers |
| 03:37.11 | Shirik | I'm using it in a project |
| 03:37.27 | Shirik | Specifically in a car -- conventional hard drive won't last long in a car |
| 03:37.42 | Repo | 10fishing-ace: 03Sutorix * r78 / (2 files in 1 directory): FishingAce: GetAutoLootDefault() is gone in 3.0 |
| 03:37.45 | Dalamar1991 | well in that case, SSD is superior only because it's the only viable option :P |
| 03:38.24 | sylvanaar | yeah, i am aware of the limited lifespan issues |
| 03:39.03 | Dalamar1991 | not just that, but several tests have also shown they aren't as power efficient as believed in actual real-life use. |
| 03:39.15 | doom0r | i can just see the login message tomorrow: We're sorry but the postal carrier has been eaten by a frostwyrm. All previous mail has been turn into frozen dung. |
| 03:39.44 | Shirik | sylvanaar: Actually, SSDs are rapidly approaching the point where their average lifespan will far surpass an expected conventional drive |
| 03:39.57 | Dalamar1991 | keyword: approaching |
| 03:40.06 | Shirik | Dalamar1991, I would love to see these "tests" |
| 03:40.09 | Shirik | because that's just plain not true |
| 03:40.13 | Dalamar1991 | read slashdot |
| 03:40.18 | Shirik | Ok, that's your first problem |
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| 03:41.10 | Shirik | fact of the matter is SSD drives are run entirely off caps and FETs. There's practically no current except the cap charging. On the other hand, a conventional drive requires an electric motor, along with several caps as an AD and then the appropriate transistors |
| 03:41.27 | Shirik | electric motors take a ton of current compared to the alternative |
| 03:41.44 | Shirik | not to mention the extra circuitry required to appropriately control it |
| 03:42.06 | NeoTron | so report from my local 7/11 - the guy working there didn't even seem to know what a "game" is |
| 03:42.07 | Dalamar1991 | look, i'm not in a position to argue with you because i don't make it a priority to dissect the inner workings of new technologies. |
| 03:42.16 | Shirik | it's not really a new technology |
| 03:42.18 | NeoTron | nor world of warcraft or wrath of the lich king |
| 03:42.28 | Shirik | it's just old technology that's finally at the point where we can do something like this |
| 03:42.33 | Dalamar1991 | but i have read several reports, some say they are more efficient, some say they aren't. most of them are reputable enough to believe. |
| 03:42.37 | NeoTron | and there was a sign next to their door stating they were selling the hottest games |
| 03:42.42 | Shirik | NeoTron: rofl |
| 03:43.03 | Dalamar1991 | and just the fact that there still isn't general agreement is reason enough for me to NOT spend a tonne of money on something that isn't a massive upgrade over what i've got. |
| 03:43.20 | NeoTron | 7/11 suparstarr! |
| 03:43.50 | Cavisty^gerber | Did anyones realmlist.wtf get deleted? |
| 03:43.56 | Dalamar1991 | are they less efficient? i don't know. but even among reputible research sources there isn't general agreement. thus, my opinion is to stay away from it until there is. |
| 03:44.10 | Arrowmaster | Cavisty^gerber: wow doesnt use that file anymore |
| 03:44.19 | Cavisty^gerber | Arrowmaster, oh ok thanks |
| 03:44.44 | Cavisty^gerber | the only continent that shows up now is "Development" lol |
| 03:44.50 | doom0r | um, any ally know where the boat to borean tundra is exactly? |
| 03:44.55 | Arrowmaster | SSDs arent as much of a preformance increase as people expected them to be because of all the optimizations currently in place expecting a normal harddrive |
| 03:45.09 | Shirik | that is one problem, yes |
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| 03:45.26 | Shirik | which is actually a good thing |
| 03:45.28 | [1]RaydenUni | hello |
| 03:45.40 | Dalamar1991 | so why spend 400$ on something that isn't a massive improvement over something we already have that costs a fraction of that? |
| 03:45.54 | Dalamar1991 | why not wait until it is more mainstream, a bigger improvement, and cheaper? |
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| 03:46.18 | Arrowmaster | depends entirely on your needs |
| 03:46.35 | Dalamar1991 | if you're doing research in a car, then i can hardly argue that you may need an SSD. |
| 03:46.44 | Arrowmaster | i could see it being useful for laptops where the decrease in power consumtion would extend battery life |
| 03:47.06 | doom0r | nvm, found it on youtube |
| 03:47.09 | Dalamar1991 | but there is absolutely no way a conventional home user (home office or gamer) could have a need for SSD... that's like... 1 in a million. |
| 03:47.20 | doom0r | now i just need to actually be the first to reach teh npcs so i get realm first |
| 03:47.38 | Dalamar1991 | decrease in power consumption and longer battery life. i'm not convinced. |
| 03:47.40 | Arrowmaster | doom0r: realm first what? |
| 03:47.51 | doom0r | all the professions next level have a realm first |
| 03:48.06 | Arrowmaster | you have to reach max though |
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| 03:48.16 | Dalamar1991 | my fujitsu T4220, with a traditional HDD lasts just as long as my father's with a SSD |
| 03:48.16 | Arrowmaster | i thought |
| 03:48.19 | sylvanaar | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13405 |
| 03:48.21 | doom0r | didn't see anything bout that |
| 03:48.21 | sylvanaar | i love that |
| 03:48.38 | sylvanaar | the guy at infoworld is a piece of work |
| 03:48.59 | Bruners | Quartz is still the best castbar ? |
| 03:49.11 | Lex | Bruners: yes. |
| 03:49.24 | Cavisty^gerber | i like azcastbar |
| 03:49.24 | Dalamar1991 | i saw that earlier. whoever wrote that needs to be fired from his job. |
| 03:50.12 | [1]RaydenUni | referring to the article? |
| 03:50.15 | [1]RaydenUni | is it all bullshit? |
| 03:50.16 | Dalamar1991 | yea. |
| 03:50.28 | Dalamar1991 | maybe in the end he'll be right, i don't know. |
| 03:50.46 | Dalamar1991 | but it's a PRE-BETA, which MS specifically said wasn't going to benchmark well. |
| 03:50.48 | [1]RaydenUni | zomg |
| 03:50.57 | [1]RaydenUni | similarities between vista and windows 7?! |
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| 03:51.01 | Dalamar1991 | so why would you go blowing a wistle? |
| 03:52.36 | sylvanaar | the guy is a dick weed - the article is hysterical |
| 03:55.05 | sylvanaar | "it's always good to start with the kernel because this is where the most fundamental changes take place. For example, when Microsoft went from Windows 2000 to Windows XP, the System process gained 21 execution threads in its default configuration" |
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| 03:55.18 | sylvanaar | in depth analysis |
| 03:55.53 | sylvanaar | he seriously counted the threads, and left it at that |
| 03:55.57 | Rayden | The thread count was also very close -- 712 for Windows 7 versus 810 for Vista. <-- since when is 12% a small difference? |
| 03:56.01 | doom0r | kernel == system processes, lol? |
| 03:56.13 | sylvanaar | i know - complete moron |
| 03:56.29 | sylvanaar | "As I mentioned in the intro, I began my exploration of Windows 7 by poking around the OS's innards. Using a combination of the Windows Performance Monitor utility and some reference data I'd gathered from Windows Vista and XP, I began comparing the runtime structure and composition of various OS processes and services. " |
| 03:57.07 | Rayden | The reviewer praised the updated UI, stating it was far more than an OS X clone. He argues this is the key feature of the new version of Windows, not improved performance. <-- one line of praise and then back to bashing |
| 03:57.36 | Dalamar1991 | *shrug* it's cool to bash windows these days. |
| 03:58.11 | Dalamar1991 | "Linux is awesome, and winblows sucks!" <-- saying this makes you automatically cool in the internet. you don't need to know anything else. |
| 03:58.29 | Rayden | or macs |
| 03:58.41 | Dalamar1991 | yea, that's slowly becoming the trend too. |
| 03:58.53 | Rayden | the guy who wrote the article isn't the one who did the study |
| 03:58.59 | Rayden | he's just quoting some other guy who did all the work |
| 03:59.03 | Dalamar1991 | but he's perpetuating the information. |
| 03:59.12 | Bruners | what article ? |
| 03:59.16 | Dalamar1991 | information that is useless and irrelevant and should be buried along with the guy he's quoting. |
| 03:59.36 | Rayden | i'm not exactly sure what performance people are complaining about |
| 03:59.46 | Rayden | EVERY SINGLE OPERATING SYSTEM IN EXISTANCE is slower than its predecessor |
| 04:00.08 | sylvanaar | he ran the os'es and tests on the same hardware, then was surprised when the results showed performance was ABOUT THE SAME |
| 04:00.15 | doom0r | http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/66/ballmer1bc5.jpg |
| 04:00.30 | Dalamar1991 | it's not just that that pisses me off though. |
| 04:00.45 | Dalamar1991 | it's the fact that he's using a pre-beta version of W7, that MS explicitly stated wouldn't benchmark well. |
| 04:00.54 | Rayden | well his whole article is based on the assumption that Windows 7 is going to be much faster than vista, which is apparently a bloated whale, and as fast as xp |
| 04:00.55 | Dalamar1991 | if it was ready, they'd release it... not call it pre-beta. |
| 04:01.01 | sylvanaar | right, and talking about device drivers |
| 04:01.09 | chexsum | WHATS WINDOWS 7 |
| 04:01.25 | Dalamar1991 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7 |
| 04:01.27 | Rayden | Windows 2007 |
| 04:01.34 | Lex | lol |
| 04:01.39 | chexsum | due 2009 i bet |
| 04:01.49 | Dalamar1991 | 09/10 yea |
| 04:02.13 | Rayden | the first comment gives me hope for humanity |
| 04:02.30 | Bruners | will be fun when everyone starts whining about W7 saying Vista is so much better :P |
| 04:02.42 | doom0r | Bruners: when? |
| 04:02.55 | doom0r | xp will still the the defacto status quo |
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| 04:03.11 | sylvanaar | "They also seemed alarmed that Windows 7 was incompatible with anything that ran properly under Vista, a reaction I interpreted as tacit endorsement of my understanding of the Windows 7 kernel. " |
| 04:03.13 | sylvanaar | dick weed |
| 04:03.24 | chexsum | vista startup is slow but apart from that it seems fine |
| 04:03.40 | Dalamar1991 | it's because xp was the first windows OS that worked more often than it didn't. and the type of people who use windows are afraid of change. |
| 04:03.59 | doom0r | not really |
| 04:04.05 | Paene | tbh, I remember XP getting flamed early on for bloat and such as well |
| 04:04.08 | Rayden | XP has had YEARS to be tuned and debugged |
| 04:04.10 | Rayden | it did |
| 04:04.11 | doom0r | vista is not control friendly |
| 04:04.14 | balstor_ | err xp is just windows nt kerner 5.1 nt 2000 is NT 5 and works well to |
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| 04:04.15 | chexsum | 2000 doesnt crash much |
| 04:04.21 | Rayden | vista has a larger install base than XP did when it came out |
| 04:04.33 | Paene | I stuck for Win98 for 2 years after XP was released |
| 04:04.36 | Rayden | so everyone saying vista failed is a moron |
| 04:04.38 | Paene | *stuck with |
| 04:04.49 | Lisimba | Rayden: there are also way more computers around now. |
| 04:04.59 | chexsum | i got the win2k beta stuff and it moved me back to mshaft |
| 04:04.59 | Lisimba | Is that absolute numbers or percentage? |
| 04:05.06 | Rayden | i forget |
| 04:05.06 | Trela | I moved straight to Windows Whistler when it came out. Erm, I mean XP. :D It was very stable. |
| 04:05.08 | Bruners | when XP was released i had about 200GiB hard disk space, now with Vista i have about 2TB |
| 04:05.09 | Rayden | i saw the statistic a while ago |
| 04:05.10 | chiper | hrm, how do I tell svn to ignore the contents of a directory from the command line? |
| 04:05.26 | Dalamar1991 | win2000 wasn't marketed as a mainstream OS for home use. |
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| 04:05.38 | Dalamar1991 | that was ME's job. |
| 04:05.48 | Lisimba | ME was a pile of fail. |
| 04:05.50 | chexsum | it was before me |
| 04:05.52 | Bruners | i dualbooted ME, 2k and Redhat |
| 04:05.58 | Dalamar1991 | Lisimba: exactly.... |
| 04:06.05 | Trela | You mean triple booted. |
| 04:06.05 | Bruners | ME was better then 98 for my case |
| 04:06.10 | balstor_ | still run 2000 amd play wow under it |
| 04:06.12 | Bruners | ment triple |
| 04:06.17 | Dalamar1991 | so people moved on to XP. it worked for the most part for the average home user, and people clung to it. |
| 04:06.20 | Paene | Wasn't ME initially released with a virus hardcoded into it or something? |
| 04:06.33 | Trela | ME was a virus. |
| 04:06.41 | harl | i hate statistics. people tend to turn their brains off and believe shit as soon as it's put into one of them. |
| 04:06.42 | chexsum | yeah it was called the ms kernel lol |
| 04:06.42 | Dalamar1991 | vista came out, working just as well as XP did when it launched, and people were too afraid to change, because XP was comfortable. |
| 04:06.43 | Paene | I remember hearing something about the first CD's being contaminated |
| 04:06.46 | sylvanaar | it was an abomination |
| 04:07.02 | ckknight | quick survey: would author blogs be useful to you people? (It'll basically act like how project pages work now, only attached to a user) |
| 04:07.10 | Lisimba | Dalamar1991: XP now works a lot *better* than when it was launched. |
| 04:07.25 | Dalamar1991 | Lisimba: i'm comparing XP @ launch to vista @ launch |
| 04:07.29 | Bruners | ckknight: i wouldnt use it |
| 04:07.32 | sylvanaar | i hate blogs |
| 04:07.37 | Dalamar1991 | ckknight: personally, i doubt i would. |
| 04:07.39 | Paene | ckknight: I wouldn't use it either |
| 04:07.39 | Arrowmaster | http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 04:07.45 | Arrowmaster | thats all im going to say |
| 04:07.54 | ckknight | yea, I doubt most people would use it, but it'd be available for those who want it |
| 04:07.58 | chexsum | blogs are old school give us cursetube |
| 04:08.01 | ckknight | I think there was a ticket about this, actually |
| 04:08.03 | Lisimba | Dalamar1991: but when evaluating whether to switch people compare what XP does now to what vista does now. What XP did six years ago or however long it was just doesn't matter. |
| 04:08.06 | ckknight | lol, chexsum |
| 04:08.30 | harl | wasn't afraid of changes, but rather didn't see the need to change anything for nothing. |
| 04:08.32 | ckknight | ah, here it is: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/614-developer-journals/ |
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| 04:09.06 | Bruners | can i play on my BC account after i have installed the wrath cd ? |
| 04:09.19 | Dalamar1991 | Lisimba: short sighted people thing that way, that's my whole point. |
| 04:09.21 | chexsum | id doubt it |
| 04:09.22 | Dalamar1991 | *think |
| 04:09.24 | ckknight | don't think so, Bruners |
| 04:09.28 | Lisimba | What's short sighted about it? |
| 04:09.29 | doom0r | meh, just found that ticket |
| 04:10.04 | Dalamar1991 | people flamed XP at launch because of the issues surrounding launch. these same people are now clinging to XP and flaming vista. |
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| 04:10.07 | Dalamar1991 | it's just a cycle. |
| 04:10.29 | ckknight | I cling to XP |
| 04:10.34 | ckknight | for now, at least |
| 04:10.35 | Trela | Bruners: Yes. |
| 04:10.40 | ckknight | I'd be willing to try out Windows 7 |
| 04:10.43 | Arrowmaster | except xp doesnt have the same issues as vista, see http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 04:10.48 | Lisimba | Will see in a couple years if vista improved. |
| 04:10.50 | Dalamar1991 | and when W7 drops, those who flamed but adopted vista will likely flame W7 and cling to vista (clamoring for the XP days) |
| 04:10.51 | ckknight | by then, most of my driver woes would be allayed |
| 04:10.56 | Bruners | i waited for SP1 of Vista to try it and now im using it |
| 04:11.09 | Rayden | i'm running vista at home |
| 04:11.09 | ckknight | since Windows 7 doesn't change the driver interface from Vista |
| 04:11.10 | Rayden | i like it |
| 04:11.11 | sylvanaar | i have been using it for a year and a half |
| 04:11.14 | doom0r | Bruners: -19:48:52- [Gnarfoz]: you can play with a full wotlk install. |
| 04:11.15 | Rayden | i run xp on my laptop as it's older |
| 04:11.17 | chiper | ~wowalert |
| 04:11.18 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 04:11.34 | Dalamar1991 | i dual boot debian and vista ultimate on my desktop |
| 04:11.41 | Dalamar1991 | i enjoy using both |
| 04:11.41 | Trela | "All realms online" - Not even one is online. :P |
| 04:11.42 | Arrowmaster | W7 will still have these same problems as vista http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html |
| 04:12.00 | chiper | attempting to bring realms back online... that was twenty minutes ago |
| 04:12.01 | sylvanaar | what, DRM? |
| 04:12.07 | Dalamar1991 | hold on arrowmaster, i'm still reading your previous link. |
| 04:12.07 | Rayden | what problems does vista have? |
| 04:12.09 | Dalamar1991 | oh wait! |
| 04:12.10 | Paene | WTB realms |
| 04:12.12 | sylvanaar | i dont notice DRM related anything |
| 04:12.17 | Dalamar1991 | i see what you did there! :P |
| 04:12.29 | Lisimba | I haven't seen vista do anything yet that would make me want to upgrade. It *does* cost a bunch of cash. |
| 04:12.36 | Rayden | it's free for me |
| 04:12.42 | Trela | I want to test my AddOn coding! :(~ |
| 04:12.43 | sylvanaar | you put it on new hardware |
| 04:12.44 | Rayden | or else i wouldn't be running it |
| 04:12.49 | harl | it's not short sighted to not want to buy a new operating system every few years, but it's rather stupid to tell people that they'd have to buy it to get a smoothly running system. |
| 04:13.00 | sylvanaar | you dont upgrade your os for no reason |
| 04:13.02 | Rayden | who says that harl? |
| 04:13.11 | Rayden | i did it so i'd have dx10 mostly |
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| 04:13.21 | Dalamar1991 | you need to buy into new technologies before they'll improve. |
| 04:13.22 | Arrowmaster | like dx10 does anything |
| 04:13.26 | Lisimba | I got a new laptop two months ago, it came with vista home dutch. So I installed xp pro UK, which I had around. |
| 04:13.28 | doom0r | waits for the WINE port of dx10 to xp |
| 04:13.31 | Dalamar1991 | if you don't, the technologies don't have the incentive to improve. |
| 04:13.31 | Rayden | all the games i'm writing are in DX10 |
| 04:13.43 | Lisimba | I'm not going to buy vista for that unless it has some good reasons for me to fork over the extra money. |
| 04:13.45 | sylvanaar | why not put win2k on it |
| 04:13.51 | sylvanaar | or linux |
| 04:14.10 | Paene | <------linux user |
| 04:14.15 | Trela | I really want Windows to come in one universal language distribution. OS 10 has all of them in one. <.<;; |
| 04:14.46 | doom0r | Trela: I really don't think anything but Debian will ever cover EVERYTHING |
| 04:14.49 | sylvanaar | dont get me started on apple |
| 04:14.59 | Lisimba | Most of my applications are in english, most of the useful part of the internet is in english, I talk with people in english all day, why the hell would I want my OS in dutch? |
| 04:15.18 | Rayden | english doesn't come on all windows installs? |
| 04:15.22 | Lisimba | nope |
| 04:15.28 | Rayden | hrm |
| 04:15.35 | Trela | doom0r: The majority. OS 10 has fifty? It is a huge list and I do not feel like counting it. |
| 04:15.39 | Rayden | i guess it is a little presumptious to assume everyone wants english |
| 04:15.40 | Rayden | but still |
| 04:15.45 | harl | yar great, talking economists and capitalists. |
| 04:15.46 | doom0r | Lisimba: multiple generations using a "family pc" that don't understand other languages |
| 04:16.10 | doom0r | Trela: ya, i've seen it, it's impressive compared to most |
| 04:16.23 | Lisimba | That's where being able to switch languages comes in handy. I however am the only user of this laptop. |
| 04:16.46 | Dalamar1991 | i don't understand. how does windows not have support for multiple languages? |
| 04:16.51 | sylvanaar | it does |
| 04:16.57 | Trela | doom0r: My main gripe with Windows' languages is that you switch it, but it still boots into English. There is no way to change it with out buying another copy in that language. |
| 04:17.09 | Dalamar1991 | within 2 minutes of installing, my english copy of vista was being used to communicate in japanese. |
| 04:17.26 | Lisimba | I'm talking about the language it uses to communicate at me. |
| 04:17.31 | Trela | Dalamar1991: Windows supports multiple languages, but the interface stays in the language you bought it in. |
| 04:17.42 | Dalamar1991 | Trela: that's not true. you can download packages through windows update that changes your interface to another language. |
| 04:17.51 | Lisimba | I've never seen that. |
| 04:17.55 | Lisimba | And I did look. |
| 04:17.57 | sylvanaar | those are only for vista ultimate |
| 04:17.58 | Lisimba | Where are they? |
| 04:18.05 | Trela | They are not there. |
| 04:18.12 | sylvanaar | the language packs |
| 04:18.24 | sylvanaar | yeah they are there |
| 04:18.47 | sylvanaar | i have all of them installed |
| 04:18.49 | Lisimba | I've dealt with stupid interface things long enough to not want to do that anymore. |
| 04:18.59 | Trela | My point is that I switch languages and just have to restart the application I want in a different language. I can also set certain applications to individually use a certain language. |
| 04:19.00 | Dalamar1991 | it could be smoother, i agree. |
| 04:19.01 | harl | great. so everyone's using vista ultimate. in a microsoft's dreams maybe. |
| 04:19.26 | Lisimba | Think of having an english application which pops up a standard question dialog, and the yes/no buttons are in your native language (which is not english). |
| 04:19.29 | Lisimba | That's... stupid. |
| 04:19.49 | Rayden | can you not buy the english version? |
| 04:19.53 | Lisimba | I can and did. |
| 04:20.21 | Dalamar1991 | i'm not sure i understand your issue, tbh. |
| 04:20.24 | Lisimba | But I couldn't pick with this laptop. |
| 04:20.25 | sylvanaar | me either |
| 04:20.28 | doom0r | rule #1 of bear club: you do not talk about bear club! http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#1519 |
| 04:20.54 | Dalamar1991 | you couldn't buy a laptop with the appropriate language version of vista? |
| 04:20.55 | sylvanaar | seriously, your issue with vista is that that you bought a laptop with dutch vista? |
| 04:21.06 | Dalamar1991 | user error? |
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| 04:21.18 | Lisimba | Dalamar1991: no, this one only came with dutch vista. |
| 04:21.30 | Dalamar1991 | why not buy one with english vista? |
| 04:21.57 | Lisimba | I got a discount on this line. |
| 04:21.59 | Bruners | from windows update i can choose language packs if i want to |
| 04:22.06 | Dalamar1991 | you get what you pay for. |
| 04:22.35 | Lisimba | Yea, and since I already had a full copy of XP around I just installed that. |
| 04:22.36 | Bruners | not that i would ever want a localized version |
| 04:22.38 | Lisimba | I'm fine with that. |
| 04:23.00 | Lisimba | But actually getting vista would require me to buy that separately now, which was sort of my original point. |
| 04:23.07 | doom0r | omg: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/ssotd/#1510 that's epic! |
| 04:23.17 | harl | the issue is that microsoft doesn't really intend to create an extensive, as in modularized and extendable, operating system, and their versions of it will always be flawed so that they can sell another version with just 5% of changes and betterment that they could actually implement. |
| 04:23.40 | Dalamar1991 | harl, that's an oversimplification, imo... |
| 04:24.05 | harl | but it's one side of the die and one reason they do what they do. |
| 04:24.48 | Dalamar1991 | they made their name with an O/S that was usable by anyone who knew how to point and click a mouse. |
| 04:24.56 | Lisimba | Like I said, I'm not going to spend extra money on vista when it doesn't seem to do anything useful beyond what XP does. |
| 04:25.05 | Rayden | so don't |
| 04:25.05 | harl | another one is time, yes, and another one is money, they can't just go on without it, but reasoning that doesn't make it better for the customer. |
| 04:25.08 | Dalamar1991 | 10 years ago, nix was way too complicated for mom and pop. |
| 04:25.33 | Dalamar1991 | and no company in the world scraps their entire product each time they make a new revision. |
| 04:25.52 | Dalamar1991 | you build on the technology you've got. that's sound business practice. |
| 04:26.04 | Bruners | Lisimba: http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/langpack.jpg |
| 04:26.22 | Arrowmaster | my dad just bought one of those walmart $299 laptops, came with a 2ghz celeron and windows vista home basic |
| 04:26.37 | Arrowmaster | ive been considering putting linux on it and seeing how he does with it |
| 04:26.40 | doom0r | that saturday special? |
| 04:26.50 | Dalamar1991 | not the olpc one, right? |
| 04:26.51 | Lisimba | Bruners: that's cool. But does that only work for ultimate, then? |
| 04:27.02 | Bruners | Lisimba: that i dont know |
| 04:27.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah the saturday special |
| 04:27.03 | harl | well, the "mom and pop"s i know still don't care for nix these days. at some points it's just above their interest in technical stuff, so it's usability decreases pretty much. |
| 04:27.06 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: no |
| 04:27.11 | sylvanaar | harl you quoted that from some blog i just read |
| 04:27.20 | harl | sylvanaar: what? |
| 04:27.25 | doom0r | walmart had a holiday advanced sale |
| 04:27.42 | doom0r | companies are realizing they can bank even more off black friday |
| 04:27.53 | Jaxon | Son of a bitch, still no realms. |
| 04:28.17 | doom0r | harl: CnR |
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| 04:28.46 | Lex | when's the last time realms have been down this long? |
| 04:28.46 | doom0r | it's available for ubuntu now |
| 04:29.02 | Dalamar1991 | Lex: honestly, a week ago. |
| 04:29.08 | Dalamar1991 | Not even trying to be funny. |
| 04:29.13 | sylvanaar | harl the lack of modularity, what faction care about that? |
| 04:29.18 | sylvanaar | linux? |
| 04:30.05 | Lisimba | Aw lame, they started maintenance here half an hour ago. |
| 04:30.13 | sylvanaar | so many people using the same word - it must be a mantra of some sort |
| 04:30.19 | Rayden | were they down all day for the patch? |
| 04:30.23 | harl | people who don't want to buy a completely new operating system every now and then but wish their already existing one to be improved instead. |
| 04:30.24 | Rayden | so like 3 weeks ago? |
| 04:30.37 | ckknight | bah, I left my power charger at the office |
| 04:30.41 | Rayden | people always want something new and better and don't want to pay for it |
| 04:30.42 | Rayden | nothing's new |
| 04:30.59 | Lisimba | And companies want you to pay over and over for the same thing. Not new either. |
| 04:31.03 | Lisimba | Meet in the middle... |
| 04:31.35 | harl | that's all i was pointing at |
| 04:32.05 | Rayden | so you guys want a new question? |
| 04:32.05 | sylvanaar | i want a new os every 5-7 years |
| 04:32.14 | Rayden | i don't want to wait that long |
| 04:32.16 | Rayden | i like new stuff |
| 04:32.33 | Dalamar1991 | i want to play the game i'm paying for. |
| 04:32.35 | Rayden | 2 years sounds about right, maybe 3 |
| 04:32.50 | sylvanaar | MS has been right on with windows 5 and 6 |
| 04:32.55 | Rayden | maybe you aren't paying for today? |
| 04:33.01 | sylvanaar | 4, 5, and 6 |
| 04:33.05 | Dalamar1991 | that's what pisses me off tho. |
| 04:33.13 | Dalamar1991 | blizz can afford to just toss free days here and there |
| 04:33.20 | Rayden | that blizzard doesn't charge you when they screw up? |
| 04:33.23 | Dalamar1991 | and then act like they've appeased the masses. |
| 04:33.26 | Rayden | i think that's awesome |
| 04:33.31 | Dalamar1991 | it's no punishment for them. |
| 04:33.31 | Rayden | they probably don't have to |
| 04:33.34 | Dalamar1991 | no repercussions. |
| 04:33.37 | Rayden | um |
| 04:33.49 | Rayden | they lose out on a day of money |
| 04:33.51 | harl | punishment what for |
| 04:33.54 | Arrowmaster | dont like it, stop paying them |
| 04:34.02 | harl | yea |
| 04:34.08 | Rayden | punishment for allowing their servers to go down |
| 04:34.17 | Rayden | the servers could be down today or thursday... how i see it |
| 04:34.22 | Dalamar1991 | i think blizz has gone from being an exemplary company to being lazy and making too many mistakes. |
| 04:34.48 | Rayden | how so? |
| 04:35.05 | Jaxon | I htink it would be good to seperate Blizzard from the people that run WoW |
| 04:35.08 | Civrock | You realize that it's a far larger company now with a FAR larger community/stress on their servers/databases? |
| 04:35.08 | doom0r | i think that the margin of error compounded from their growth and online userbase allows for the times like this |
| 04:35.23 | Dalamar1991 | in the past 3 weeks, my server have been down almost 4 whole days |
| 04:35.24 | p4aved1 | ~wowalert |
| 04:35.24 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 04:35.30 | Dalamar1991 | that just shouldn't happen. |
| 04:35.30 | sylvanaar | blizzard is just a brand |
| 04:35.31 | Rayden | blizzard's tech support is stillf ar better than most other MMO's |
| 04:35.42 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: did you play before BC? |
| 04:35.52 | Dalamar1991 | Cirock: yes, then they hould be smart enough to plan for it. they're smart people. |
| 04:35.54 | sylvanaar | blizzard north is just a fond memory |
| 04:36.07 | harl | they just do their thing and from my point of view they do it just good enough. if they grant you another day of play time that's more than the time servers were off, so what's about punishment there, they did nothing wrong. |
| 04:36.09 | Civrock | Technology isn't perfect, money can't buy everything. |
| 04:36.48 | Dalamar1991 | how is it that google's services spend less than 45 minutes a month offline, with 10 times the user base? |
| 04:37.02 | Civrock | That's not even close to comparable. |
| 04:37.18 | Arrowmaster | google has far more money |
| 04:37.29 | doom0r | i'll take current server issues over the early BWL days |
| 04:37.31 | sylvanaar | right, if the plane you are about to fly on breaks down, the airline lets you fly tomorrow if thats when the next flight is |
| 04:37.32 | Civrock | Google can just dynamically switch between servers. |
| 04:37.37 | Civrock | They don't have "realms". |
| 04:37.41 | Rayden | software is not a plane |
| 04:37.49 | sylvanaar | the server is |
| 04:37.53 | doom0r | points at Civrock's explanation |
| 04:37.58 | Dalamar1991 | they're both rolling in loose cash. google just has a bigger pool to keep it stored. |
| 04:38.01 | Rayden | true |
| 04:38.06 | Rayden | google can easily run backup servers |
| 04:38.19 | Civrock | It's a freakin' search engine. |
| 04:38.29 | Dalamar1991 | you think it's so simple. |
| 04:38.30 | Civrock | You compare that to an MMORPG? |
| 04:38.36 | Matrix110 | But when Google is down THE INTERNET IS DOWN |
| 04:38.45 | sylvanaar | what exactly do they do during maintenance anyways? |
| 04:38.46 | Dalamar1991 | a) there's more to google's services than search engines. |
| 04:38.46 | Lisimba | Google has way more than a search engine. |
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| 04:38.48 | Rayden | i've seen google down |
| 04:38.53 | Rayden | then i realize i wasn't connected to the internet |
| 04:39.20 | Dalamar1991 | b) just because a search engine looks simpler than an mmorpg to the user, doesn't mean it is simpler for the programmer. |
| 04:39.20 | Codayus | Some problems scale well; some don't. Much of what google does scales. You really CAN just throw more money at it to solve your problems...a lot of what Bliz does doesn't. |
| 04:39.25 | p4aved1 | wasn't gmail down for some US customers for like 3 days early this year? |
| 04:39.34 | Codayus | p4aved1: I believe so, yes. |
| 04:39.36 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: one connection with a static data pool that you need to interact with is NOT the same as dynamically geocached info lists |
| 04:39.53 | Rayden | yeah everything you do on google is cached |
| 04:39.54 | Rayden | wow isn't |
| 04:39.56 | Rayden | it's real time |
| 04:39.59 | Rayden | real time != not real time |
| 04:40.03 | Rayden | tremendously different |
| 04:40.05 | Dalamar1991 | Codayus: i don't agree. you want to believe it so that blizz can keep it's cherished place deep down in the cockles of your heart. |
| 04:40.12 | Dalamar1991 | i want to believe it to. |
| 04:40.20 | Dalamar1991 | *too |
| 04:40.24 | Rayden | you can't objectively say just because google can do it blizzard can too |
| 04:40.28 | Lisimba | I'm pretty sure I've made searches that were not cached :-P |
| 04:40.28 | Civrock | Dalamar1991: Sounds like you have no clue what you're talking about. |
| 04:41.05 | Dalamar1991 | Civrock: just because you were the first person to say that in the discussion doesn't give you the upperhand somehow. |
| 04:41.06 | Rayden | Lisimba, how do you know? |
| 04:41.14 | p4aved1 | 3 reams just came up |
| 04:41.19 | p4aved1 | ~realms |
| 04:41.20 | Codayus | Dalamar1991: You don't even understand the question, do you... |
| 04:41.27 | Lisimba | Rayden: by putting random crap into the search box. There's no way they have cached all random crap possible. |
| 04:41.27 | Civrock | That proves your argument how, Dalamar? |
| 04:41.31 | Matrix110 | the point is even if Blizzard has a Backup realm somewhere else it normally WONT solve the actual problem :P |
| 04:41.41 | Rayden | they dont' cache your search terms... |
| 04:41.49 | Rayden | they cache websites |
| 04:41.54 | doom0r | p4aved1: no one cares about that server ;x |
| 04:41.59 | Ackis | @project arl |
| 04:41.59 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Leader: Ackis. Authors: Jim-Bim, Zhinjio. Updated: 19 hours ago. Tickets: 24/221 |
| 04:42.00 | Rayden | you think that when you type something into google it goes and searches the internet for you? |
| 04:42.01 | Lisimba | They do cache common searches actually. |
| 04:42.10 | Rayden | probably some searches |
| 04:42.14 | doom0r | they keep growing Ackis |
| 04:42.20 | p4aved1 | doom0r: i care :D some1 else might |
| 04:42.21 | Dalamar1991 | Civrock: it doesn't. it merely removes the fallacy of your attack on me rather than my argument. |
| 04:42.22 | Lisimba | Yeah. It goes and visits every single website out there to see if my search terms are on it -.- |
| 04:42.28 | sylvanaar | i dont think anyone thinks that Rayden |
| 04:42.28 | Rayden | the moment you type it in? |
| 04:42.31 | harl | sure, simplicity is a relative thing, so what. come on, everyone sees there's a huge difference between an app being a game or a web server. nothing new there either. |
| 04:42.35 | Lisimba | Of course! It's magic! |
| 04:42.38 | Rayden | then how come if i add something to my website and search it 30 seconds later ti doesn't show up? |
| 04:42.50 | doom0r | p4aved1: they're locked now, lol |
| 04:42.50 | Lisimba | Bit lag. |
| 04:42.57 | harl | Lisimba: i like magic. :p |
| 04:43.06 | Rayden | the magic pipes be clogged |
| 04:43.09 | Rayden | with bogons |
| 04:43.17 | p4aved1 | doom0r: lulz urite |
| 04:43.18 | Rayden | i swear bogons exist |
| 04:43.25 | Rayden | too much evidence |
| 04:43.28 | doom0r | everyones trying to simply get on |
| 04:43.46 | Rayden | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_bogodynamics |
| 04:43.54 | Lisimba | It takes a while for bits to get through the tubes. |
| 04:43.59 | Lisimba | Especially the ones, they snag sometimes. |
| 04:44.11 | Rayden | http://catb.org/jargon/html/B/bogosity.html |
| 04:44.15 | Dalamar1991 | Rayden: i took a course on that in my 3rd year at waterloo! |
| 04:44.27 | Lisimba | Someone should implement an encoding that favors zeroes. |
| 04:44.37 | harl | i hear, the twos snag even more. |
| 04:44.39 | Rayden | on what Dalamar1991? |
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| 04:45.04 | Paene | zomg |
| 04:45.06 | Paene | 3 realms up |
| 04:45.25 | Paene | all 3 locked though |
| 04:45.26 | Paene | hm... |
| 04:45.36 | doom0r | Rayden: is this theory allowed by FSM? |
| 04:45.44 | harl | lol |
| 04:45.45 | Rayden | i'm sure it is |
| 04:45.49 | Dalamar1991 | lol... Quantum Bogodynamics |
| 04:45.50 | Rayden | in any case i believe in it |
| 04:46.01 | Rayden | professors are known emmitters of bogons |
| 04:46.11 | Dalamar1991 | Quantum Bogodunamics and the FSM shouldn't be mutually exclusive. |
| 04:46.13 | Rayden | working code... professor walks in "hey look at this" crash |
| 04:46.57 | harl | i know exactly.. |
| 04:47.19 | doom0r | nother server up |
| 04:47.28 | doom0r | bout 10+ realms on it |
| 04:48.59 | doom0r | looks like the first one up crashed |
| 04:48.59 | opant | okay to lighten the mood |
| 04:49.02 | opant | http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/viewer.45.swf?cid=317016 |
| 04:49.08 | opant | ^ streaming live puppies |
| 04:49.24 | Lisimba | mmm, puppy |
| 04:49.29 | Lisimba | with bbq sauce and mustard... |
| 04:49.29 | harl | i hate those stupid human hairs at my ear. they're like needles. i hate needles. |
| 04:49.53 | Lisimba | ...wait. as opposed to *what* species hairs? |
| 04:49.54 | doom0r | i've been considering getting all facial hair permanently removed |
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| 04:50.06 | harl | Lisimba: wolf. |
| 04:50.20 | Rayden | you guys hear about game companies upset about used game sales? how they are looking for ways to reward players for buying new? someone at Epic suggested that "the final boss battle" could be downloadable content that would cost $20, but free if you buy a new copy |
| 04:50.21 | Rayden | thoughts? |
| 04:50.22 | Lisimba | Do you generally cuddle wolves? |
| 04:50.44 | Rayden | about used game sales, the right of someone to sell a copy of a game they own, etc |
| 04:50.56 | harl | i cuddle some of this and that. there may even be some wolves amongst them. |
| 04:51.02 | Lisimba | Rayden: I'm not quite sure about the profanity acceptable in this channel so just imagine what I think epic can go do to itself. |
| 04:51.09 | doom0r | Rayden: no |
| 04:51.16 | Rayden | no what? |
| 04:51.21 | doom0r | lawyers would never allow that crap to be tried |
| 04:51.29 | doom0r | the company would flop under litigation costs |
| 04:51.30 | Rayden | should people even be allowed to sell a game? |
| 04:51.33 | Rayden | you can't sell your copy of wow |
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| 04:51.44 | doom0r | depends on licensing and residence |
| 04:51.58 | Arrowmaster | game stores wont accept any used PC games now |
| 04:52.00 | doom0r | laws are not determined by manufact/dist |
| 04:52.06 | Lisimba | As long as they go around pretending you own your game, yeah, you should. |
| 04:52.25 | Dalamar1991 | omgpuppies! |
| 04:52.38 | doom0r | i prefer cats |
| 04:52.42 | Dalamar1991 | me too |
| 04:52.53 | Rayden | you can't sell games you own on Steam |
| 04:52.59 | doom0r | i get along with dogs, just dont care for them |
| 04:53.00 | Dalamar1991 | but given the choice between watching my server come up last again or puppies... i'm happy with puppies |
| 04:53.04 | Lisimba | Then you don't really own them, do you? |
| 04:53.04 | Arrowmaster | but i do agree that it is a problem that too many people turn around and sell their used games after a few months just to get another game they will sell again in a few months |
| 04:53.29 | Lisimba | What's a problem about that? |
| 04:53.36 | Trela | That is not a problem! |
| 04:53.41 | Lisimba | People do that with cars and houses too, just on a longer time scale. |
| 04:54.07 | Lisimba | And books. Nice second hand book stores. |
| 04:54.18 | Rayden | Companies make games and sell them, but they don't see money anytime a game is bought/sold used. |
| 04:54.20 | Arrowmaster | except the middlemen doing the buying and selling make way more money % wise in used games |
| 04:54.26 | Lisimba | And mostly any other crap, just look at ebay. |
| 04:54.39 | harl | i'd even have wolf's hair if i was able to, but for some reason i'm not. guess my illusions, dreams and thoughts will have to suffice there. |
| 04:54.52 | Lisimba | Rayden: sucks to be them, then? |
| 04:55.00 | Rayden | i'm asking if that's fair |
| 04:55.04 | Bruners | dont they sell second hand games at those book stores aswell ? |
| 04:55.06 | Lisimba | Yup. Totally fair. |
| 04:55.10 | Rayden | or wrong for a game company to want it to be different |
| 04:55.11 | Trela | I prefer buying new books because I hate touching what people have destroyed! =;-;= |
| 04:55.30 | Rayden | why cant' we treat selling a game as a consumable? |
| 04:55.36 | harl | destroyed? |
| 04:55.39 | doom0r | Trela: Actually I do it simply to support the author |
| 04:55.41 | Lisimba | 'cause it ain't a consumable. |
| 04:56.01 | Rayden | WoW is a consumable. Once you buy and "use" it you can't give it to anyone else as it's been "used." |
| 04:56.07 | Arrowmaster | i agree that you should be able to sell games, but its just a socialital problem that its so rampent compared to other things |
| 04:56.14 | Lisimba | WoW is rented, not owned. |
| 04:56.24 | Bruners | i bet the the two dogs taking a nap dont like the other noisy one |
| 04:56.29 | Dalamar1991 | WoW is both, actually. |
| 04:56.52 | Lisimba | You don't own a thing with WoW, apart from some paper and physical cd's. |
| 04:56.52 | Dalamar1991 | you rent playtime, but you own the account and everything attached to it (items, gold, characters) |
| 04:56.57 | Lisimba | Which you can obviously sell to some sucker. |
| 04:57.00 | NeoTron | so here's a question, anyone with an upgraded account able to log in yet? :P |
| 04:57.04 | Arrowmaster | Dalamar1991: no you dont |
| 04:57.05 | NeoTron | I assume it doesnt' do anything |
| 04:57.16 | Arrowmaster | if you owned them then you would have the right to sell them, which you do not |
| 04:57.17 | Rayden | you "own" your account but you are not allowed to sell it |
| 04:57.25 | Lisimba | Dalamar1991: go see the legal texts attached, you don't own any of that. Blizzard can quite happily shut you off if they stop liking you. |
| 04:57.32 | doom0r | You know, people should really really rally read those long ass eula's and tos's and licenses on stuff |
| 04:57.35 | p4aved1 | NeoTron: can't create dk's or go to northrend |
| 04:57.42 | Rayden | doom0r, xkcd :P |
| 04:57.45 | Dalamar1991 | what law prevents you from selling your account? |
| 04:57.55 | doom0r | which one Rayden |
| 04:57.55 | Arrowmaster | none |
| 04:57.59 | Dalamar1991 | exactly. |
| 04:58.00 | Rayden | you signed something saying you won't do that Dalamar1991 |
| 04:58.02 | Bruners | blizzard banning you account afterwards |
| 04:58.15 | Rayden | doom0r, the one about EULAs |
| 04:58.20 | Arrowmaster | which law prevents blizzard from banning an account thats suspected of being sold, none |
| 04:58.25 | doom0r | i'll have to look |
| 04:58.26 | Dalamar1991 | EULA's have so far failed to be upheld in court more times than not. |
| 04:58.30 | doom0r | msg me if you find the number ;x |
| 04:58.33 | Rayden | http://xkcd.com/501/ |
| 04:58.36 | doom0r | sweet |
| 04:58.37 | Rayden | it was 2 days ago |
| 04:58.40 | NeoTron | p4aved1: or gain xp? |
| 04:58.40 | Lisimba | I could sell you the golden gate bridge, or london tower if you want. |
| 04:58.49 | Rayden | wtb lond tower pst |
| 04:58.55 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:59.05 | doom0r | lol, <3 xkcd |
| 04:59.11 | Rayden | blizzard can ban your account at any time |
| 04:59.12 | Lisimba | Has an EULA actually *gone* to court? |
| 04:59.19 | Rayden | i'm assuming valve can do the same to any steam games |
| 04:59.36 | Arrowmaster | a few weeks ago when people were saying that some world event was going to happen on my server at 8pm or something and everybody was waiting around and nothing happened i was like /2 WTS BRIDGE |
| 04:59.40 | Dalamar1991 | they can, and you could sue them. and the only thing stopping you from being successful is the fact that blizz has more money than you. |
| 04:59.43 | p4aved1 | NeoTron: u can't gain xp, its just a normal account |
| 05:00.03 | NeoTron | that's what I figured :) |
| 05:00.04 | doom0r | Lisimba: ya, wow's |
| 05:00.38 | Rayden | if blizzard can ban your account, and valve can ban you from a game you buy. why not do this with all games? |
| 05:00.50 | Lisimba | They're trying that. |
| 05:00.55 | Rayden | no one buys a game any more, you just buy permission to play it |
| 05:00.57 | Lisimba | Games are more and more associated with accounts. |
| 05:01.12 | doom0r | blanket statements are nothing but fodder |
| 05:01.18 | doom0r | points elsewhere |
| 05:01.20 | Dalamar1991 | if they do it here or there, they only face individual lawsuits, which they will win through attrition. |
| 05:01.32 | Dalamar1991 | if they did it too much, they could face a class-action lawsuit. and i'm betting they'd lose. |
| 05:01.33 | doom0r | please no fires |
| 05:02.03 | Rayden | i don't see why... |
| 05:02.19 | harl | points at doom0r and nods. |
| 05:02.19 | Rayden | i can't think of any innate reason why you should own a game instead of buy an account |
| 05:02.22 | Dalamar1991 | because an EULA isn't a valid agreement... |
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| 05:02.44 | Lisimba | If you don't have a valid agreement, why should blizzard give you access to their servers? |
| 05:02.49 | doom0r | Rayden: why would you lease a car instead of buying one? |
| 05:02.56 | Lisimba | You can happily install WoW and stare at the intro screen for all eternity. |
| 05:02.57 | Rayden | i wouldn't |
| 05:03.02 | Rayden | doesn't sound financially sound :P |
| 05:03.03 | doom0r | then why ask that question? |
| 05:03.35 | Rayden | do you consider buying a game an investment? |
| 05:03.43 | doom0r | cars are not investments |
| 05:03.43 | Bruners | you could connect to a private server |
| 05:03.49 | doom0r | that's hype |
| 05:04.04 | Lisimba | Blizzard can't ban you from private servers though. |
| 05:04.05 | Arrowmaster | and you could take this conversation elsewhere now that its gone there |
| 05:04.18 | Arrowmaster | its not welcome here |
| 05:05.17 | Dalamar1991 | what's not welcome here? i'm confused. |
| 05:05.42 | Rayden | no talking about hacking wow and private servers |
| 05:05.44 | harl | discussing topics that are against blizzard's / wow's eula/toss/whatknot |
| 05:05.46 | Arrowmaster | any discussion involving private servers |
| 05:05.46 | Rayden | it's against TOS |
| 05:06.00 | harl | -s |
| 05:06.49 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: so i cant say i dislike private servers in this channel ? |
| 05:06.53 | NivFreak | ok |
| 05:06.55 | NivFreak | so the scoop is |
| 05:07.00 | NivFreak | you can not create DKs |
| 05:07.03 | NivFreak | no northrend of course |
| 05:07.06 | Rayden | as one who hopes to be in the game industry within the year, i just find the whole problem of DRM, piracy, and used game sales to be interesting |
| 05:07.06 | doom0r | ~lart Bruners |
| 05:07.06 | purl | plops Bruners into a giant vat of herring |
| 05:07.07 | NivFreak | and np XP toward 71 |
| 05:07.30 | Lisimba | NivFreak: so what changed? |
| 05:07.31 | Dalamar1991 | i don't think we were discussing private servers for the sake of private servers... but i'm not looking to push buttons. so i'll mum up... |
| 05:07.52 | Rayden | Dalamar1991, it can be a touchy subject and people prefer to err on the side of caution |
| 05:08.00 | Dalamar1991 | fair enough. |
| 05:08.01 | Arrowmaster | the discussion was fine just leave private servers and other such stuff out of it |
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| 05:08.42 | Dalamar1991 | NivFreak: what are you talking about? |
| 05:08.44 | Rayden | going back to my initial question, i agree that making content "final boss" as DLC that you pay for and giving it away for free to initial buys is stupid |
| 05:08.54 | Rayden | either go all the way and tie the game to your account, or don't |
| 05:09.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah side of caution, its better to just not talk about them instead of worrying about when the line is drawn |
| 05:09.11 | Rayden | if you make part of the main content DLC, then you are buying a demo not a game |
| 05:09.16 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: live servers with a wotlk key entered |
| 05:09.23 | Dalamar1991 | ah, i see |
| 05:09.54 | Dalamar1991 | there would just be way too many people pissed off if you had access to that stuff, just because some store sold you the game illegally. |
| 05:10.19 | Bruners | someone go poke those dogs |
| 05:10.22 | Rayden | so what about tying it to an account? |
| 05:10.35 | Dalamar1991 | Rayden: i was referring to access to wrath content now. |
| 05:10.45 | Rayden | when you buy Halo3 it gives you a cd key that allows you to attach it to your Live account. You can only play if you are logged in with that account. |
| 05:10.51 | Lisimba | Tying it to an account for the sake of ruining 2nd hand sales is lame and shouldn't be done. |
| 05:10.57 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: nothing illegal, blizzards partner's in the sale are shipping copies in time to be here for launch |
| 05:11.08 | Rayden | why exactly Lisimba? I'm not disagreeing but i haven't heard a good argument against it yet. |
| 05:11.09 | doom0r | so you can get them ahead due to parcel services being fast |
| 05:11.19 | Arrowmaster | Rayden: since when? |
| 05:11.21 | Rayden | oh yeah, i'd be pissed if you could get into wrath stuff tonight |
| 05:11.22 | Dalamar1991 | and those retail outlets sign an agreement with the publishers saying they will not sell games before the street date :P |
| 05:11.35 | doom0r | nono, you have confused it |
| 05:11.36 | Rayden | Arrowmaster, i was saying that as a suggestion |
| 05:11.41 | Rayden | asking what you guys thought about it |
| 05:11.51 | Lisimba | Rayden: all that's good for is preventing you from reselling it, which you can do with about everything else you buy, and which you could do before with those games. So it's just a greedy move on the part of the publishers. |
| 05:11.52 | Bruners | Rayden: i think everyone would be pissed if someone could play wrath content a day before the release |
| 05:11.54 | Arrowmaster | bad idea in general |
| 05:11.59 | doom0r | Buy copy from amazon with fastest shipping, they ship early, you get a day early. Nothing wrong. |
| 05:12.40 | doom0r | anyways: back to a more relevant topic |
| 05:12.40 | Dalamar1991 | My personal opinion: i don't mind systems like steam that lock me in. what i don't like is not being able to play offline, and not being able to play it on whatever computer i happen to be at at the time. |
| 05:12.49 | doom0r | can someone give info on the mail status and what not? |
| 05:13.05 | Arrowmaster | Dalamar1991: which steam does nicely |
| 05:13.10 | Dalamar1991 | exactly. |
| 05:13.15 | Dalamar1991 | those are my two gripes with steam |
| 05:13.23 | doom0r | you can play offline with steam |
| 05:13.30 | Dalamar1991 | but the idea behind steam in generally, where you are locked in to your purchase and can't resell. that doesn't bother me. |
| 05:13.35 | Arrowmaster | the only concern with steam is the 'what happens when steam dies' |
| 05:13.42 | p4aved1 | no rating requirment on brutal weps? |
| 05:13.44 | doom0r | legit and with methods provided by valve |
| 05:13.45 | Dalamar1991 | doom0r: i can't. |
| 05:13.58 | doom0r | google my friends |
| 05:14.01 | Dalamar1991 | i had ISP issues a week ago, and was offline. |
| 05:14.09 | Dalamar1991 | i couldn't load up any of my steam games. |
| 05:14.28 | Dalamar1991 | included FO3 which i had played the day before. |
| 05:14.33 | Dalamar1991 | *including |
| 05:14.40 | Arrowmaster | you should have been able to |
| 05:14.45 | Dalamar1991 | ok, but i wasn't :P |
| 05:14.46 | doom0r | Arrowmaster: I thought Valve already made a statement of its intention to release online requirements if that happened? |
| 05:14.51 | Dalamar1991 | and it was because it couldn't log into steam. |
| 05:15.11 | Arrowmaster | doom0r: i think it has but the issue was that the statement only covered valve content |
| 05:15.12 | doom0r | i.e. the server based games |
| 05:15.18 | doom0r | oic |
| 05:15.25 | Arrowmaster | not positive on that |
| 05:15.38 | Lisimba | Intentions mean shit. I bet they intend to stay profitable for all eternity, too. |
| 05:15.54 | doom0r | Lisimba: they probably will if they don't whack their business model |
| 05:16.05 | Dalamar1991 | nothing is profitable forever. |
| 05:16.26 | Lisimba | Or until EA buys them out and starts doing greedy things. |
| 05:16.41 | Dalamar1991 | EA is failing |
| 05:16.45 | Rayden | hah |
| 05:16.47 | Dalamar1991 | lol, you see that PA comic? |
| 05:16.51 | Rayden | EA is not going to go out of business |
| 05:17.00 | Dalamar1991 | not any time soon. |
| 05:17.10 | Arrowmaster | i bet valve would look at EA and go 'lol? gtfo' |
| 05:17.12 | Bruners | EA let me move my BF2 SF to another account |
| 05:17.15 | Dalamar1991 | doesn't mean they aren't 2 years away from turning into Atari or the old Infogrames... |
| 05:17.21 | Dalamar1991 | ie. subsistence |
| 05:17.29 | doom0r | lol @ atari |
| 05:17.39 | doom0r | epic fail with nintendo distribution |
| 05:18.45 | doom0r | hmmm, if Miyamoto was a female, would males here have secks with him just because of the things he's created? |
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| 05:19.16 | Lisimba | How old is he? |
| 05:19.19 | Dalamar1991 | old |
| 05:19.27 | Dalamar1991 | like over 2000 years or something |
| 05:19.28 | doom0r | iono, but it's just a general thought |
| 05:19.58 | Dalamar1991 | he's in his early 50s i think |
| 05:20.02 | chiper | NivFreak: ping |
| 05:20.12 | Lisimba | Well early 50's could still be good. |
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| 05:20.50 | Dalamar1991 | he isn't a handsome man, imo... |
| 05:21.00 | Dalamar1991 | i doubt he'd survive the transition to womanhood |
| 05:21.25 | doom0r | lol |
| 05:22.08 | Groktar | gives doom0r some nice hair plugs |
| 05:22.08 | doom0r | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/realmstatus/ has red arrows in places i don't like |
| 05:22.18 | doom0r | no, NO more hair |
| 05:22.19 | doom0r | i want less |
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| 05:22.34 | Slayman | morning guys |
| 05:22.37 | Dalamar1991 | i hate my realm... |
| 05:22.41 | Dalamar1991 | always last to come up... |
| 05:22.42 | Groktar | puts most of them on doom0r's butt and back |
| 05:22.51 | chiper | what the fuck... S2 gear is no longer available for honor |
| 05:22.53 | Dalamar1991 | and i can't play anyway, cuz horde outnumber us 3:1 |
| 05:22.58 | chiper | I KNEW I should have bought that stuff last night |
| 05:23.00 | opant | woot for first addon error :D |
| 05:23.01 | Slayman | Dalamar1991: are you really born in 1991? |
| 05:23.05 | Dalamar1991 | no |
| 05:23.13 | Rayden | yeah my server is down as well |
| 05:23.14 | Dalamar1991 | 19 - steve yzerman, 91 - sergei federov |
| 05:23.20 | Groktar | luckily i got my toon all ready for wotlk day before yesterday |
| 05:23.26 | doom0r | ruin is fail |
| 05:23.26 | Groktar | so i have nothing to do but wait |
| 05:23.47 | doom0r | ruin is up |
| 05:23.52 | Slayman | Groktar: lucky me, I'm not witnessing whatever is going out right now |
| 05:24.14 | Bruners | chiper: can you buy s3 for honor then ? |
| 05:24.24 | Dalamar1991 | Slayman: i regret using the numbers, but i'm stuck with it now. i was born in 85 |
| 05:25.04 | Dalamar1991 | ruin doesn't look up to me |
| 05:25.05 | doom0r | why stuck? |
| 05:25.06 | Slayman | Dalamar1991: '85 is WAY better then 91 trust me |
| 05:25.08 | Dalamar1991 | skullcrusher is still down |
| 05:25.12 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: i'm on it, manno |
| 05:25.14 | Dalamar1991 | Slayman: i know :P |
| 05:26.07 | Dalamar1991 | funny you should ask :P |
| 05:28.06 | Dalamar1991 | doom0r: you're on skull? O_o |
| 05:28.12 | RLD_osx | finally servers are coming back up |
| 05:29.09 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: reread |
| 05:29.34 | doom0r | Mannoroth |
| 05:29.41 | Dalamar1991 | oh lol |
| 05:29.49 | Dalamar1991 | i read manno as... like... man-o... |
| 05:29.58 | Dalamar1991 | >.> |
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| 05:31.03 | Mytos | sup homies, how we all liking that 19 hour maintenance |
| 05:31.05 | chiper | oh man, some of the PvP vendors have no cost attached to the gear |
| 05:31.08 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1051 ARLDataminer.rb: Ackis Recipe List: |
| 05:31.09 | Repo | - Dataminer updates to filter out JC and BS patterns which you can't get |
| 05:31.11 | Repo | - Fixed an issue with some Engineering goggle flags |
| 05:31.11 | Repo | - Added locs to ID up to 11356 |
| 05:31.13 | chiper | get that shit before they fix it |
| 05:31.23 | Dalamar1991 | Ackis! |
| 05:31.24 | Dalamar1991 | <3 |
| 05:31.56 | Ackis | I didn't do it... /hides |
| 05:32.23 | Dalamar1991 | man... all these names... you people made my UI what it is! |
| 05:32.27 | Slayman | anyone set his goal on becoming server first 80 / class 80/ job 80 ?? |
| 05:32.46 | Dalamar1991 | server first 80 druid, maybe |
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| 05:32.51 | Dalamar1991 | i was the third druid to 70 |
| 05:32.58 | Dalamar1991 | on my faction at least |
| 05:33.21 | Slayman | Dalamar1991: you played beta? made yourself the best possible path? |
| 05:33.29 | Dalamar1991 | nope, never got into beta. |
| 05:33.41 | Dalamar1991 | i have the worst luck with wow betas |
| 05:33.44 | Mytos | how about the first player to 80 thats got a life |
| 05:33.48 | Slayman | Dalamar1991: then your chances are rather low |
| 05:33.58 | Dalamar1991 | i didn't play BC beta either |
| 05:33.59 | Slayman | Mytos: life is commonly overrated! |
| 05:34.02 | Dalamar1991 | ended up 3rd |
| 05:34.12 | Lisimba | I'm not aiming for first. I want to have fun along the way and explore and stuff. |
| 05:34.17 | Ackis | anyone here from area 52? |
| 05:34.21 | Lisimba | Racing just wouldn't do that for me. |
| 05:34.24 | mort | 18 hours to go |
| 05:34.25 | Dalamar1991 | i'm not saying i can do it for sure, but i wouldn't rule out my chances. i'm sure they're at least 1 in 50 :P |
| 05:34.37 | Slayman | well actually i kinda wanna be server first miner to cap ^^ |
| 05:34.49 | Dalamar1991 | THAT one is gonna be tough |
| 05:34.50 | mort | rund around |
| 05:35.10 | Mytos | yeah, i got into beta and got up to 75 before i had the realization that i dont care about beta, and it was pretty cool lore wise, alot better than bc's lore |
| 05:35.18 | Slayman | depending on population it should be doable, they buffed mining skill gain as I understand it |
| 05:36.06 | Mytos | really like how arthas is in your face the whole way, where as you only ever encounter illidan in one quest and inside bt |
| 05:36.12 | mort | [06:34:23] <Lisimba> I'm not aiming for first. I want to have fun along the way and explore and stuff. <- ewww :P |
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| 05:36.38 | Lisimba | Yeah, yeah. I also read the quest texts completely. |
| 05:36.52 | Dalamar1991 | i haven't done that in so long... |
| 05:36.53 | Slayman | Lisimba: youre a Lore nerd^^ |
| 05:36.59 | Dalamar1991 | back during original wow... |
| 05:37.00 | orionshock | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/guildcraft/tickets/40-support-for-wow-matrix/ |
| 05:37.00 | mort | i'll do that with the 3rd char ;) |
| 05:37.02 | orionshock | ? |
| 05:37.02 | Slayman | just kidding ^^ |
| 05:37.03 | orionshock | what |
| 05:37.09 | Dalamar1991 | BC lore was so disappointing. |
| 05:37.32 | mort | first priority: get the dk to 80 |
| 05:38.01 | Zhinjio | orionshock: hey man... question for you about socd |
| 05:38.09 | orionshock | Zhinjio: shoot |
| 05:38.12 | Dalamar1991 | mort: i don't envy you at all... |
| 05:38.19 | Zhinjio | should it also handle the "Complete Quest" click? |
| 05:38.20 | Dalamar1991 | you have to deal with ganking... |
| 05:38.24 | Dalamar1991 | and there will be tonnes of it |
| 05:38.28 | mort | 2nd priorit: raid, raid more, raid raid raid raid :P |
| 05:38.38 | Slayman | first priority extract every playing time i can get out of the coming 5 days |
| 05:38.45 | mort | pve realm, no ganking at all |
| 05:38.48 | orionshock | ya, i introduced that bug when trying to fix another :\ |
| 05:38.55 | orionshock | and then changed it all, go update |
| 05:38.55 | Dalamar1991 | oh... |
| 05:39.00 | Dalamar1991 | well then... |
| 05:39.01 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:39.09 | orionshock | you might have to reset you database. |
| 05:39.14 | Mytos | OH MY GOD |
| 05:39.16 | Lisimba | I'll make a DK to see what it's all about, level my warlock main to 80, level my bank alt a bit, and possibly level up a hunter for fun. |
| 05:39.21 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:39.26 | Mytos | I just lost 4 minutes of my life and ill never get them back |
| 05:39.29 | mort | i promised my friends to hit 80 the same time they do... *sigh* |
| 05:39.42 | Zhinjio | is the fix alpha or beta? I'm not seeing a new version in the curse client |
| 05:40.04 | Mytos | have you guys heard this axl rose butchery hes calling guns n roses? |
| 05:41.39 | Dalamar1991 | nope |
| 05:41.45 | Mytos | save yourself, dont |
| 05:41.50 | Mytos | its HORRIBLE |
| 05:41.52 | orionshock | Zhinjio: beta i think |
| 05:41.54 | Dalamar1991 | i'll take it under advisement |
| 05:42.13 | Mytos | im horribly annoyed that ill never get that 4 minutes and 30 seconds back |
| 05:42.22 | Zhinjio | ah, its alpha. no wonder CC doesn't see it. |
| 05:42.29 | Zhinjio | ok, pulling down from wowace then |
| 05:42.32 | Dalamar1991 | outside of muse and finger 11, i don't find myself listening to western music much these days. |
| 05:42.46 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 04v6.0.7 release * r123 : Tagging as v6.0.7 release one last bug fix for nil stuff :D |
| 05:43.05 | Mytos | ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 05:43.07 | orionshock | Zhinjio: ok go update now.. there was an issue with the packager last time i tried and it wouldn't tag stuff |
| 05:43.12 | Mytos | those are horrible dalamar |
| 05:43.13 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:43.23 | Dalamar1991 | in your opinion. |
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| 05:44.19 | Dalamar1991 | but at least i don't find myself absolutely disgusted with what i'm listening to. |
| 05:44.26 | Dalamar1991 | which is more than you can say for yourself, apparently. :) |
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| 05:47.53 | Slayman | a little more then 17hours for my wotlk |
| 05:48.31 | Dalamar1991 | 23 hours till bestbuy sells it |
| 05:48.43 | Dalamar1991 | i'll likely have to go 3 hours early and stand in the freezing cold tho. |
| 05:49.05 | Slayman | Dalamar1991: why's that? very limited amount? |
| 05:49.16 | Dalamar1991 | no, they have plenty. |
| 05:49.29 | Dalamar1991 | but if it's anything like BC launch, there'll be about 300 people lines up |
| 05:49.31 | Slayman | you just like standing in the cold |
| 05:49.36 | Dalamar1991 | and they only allow about 10 in the store at a time |
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| 05:49.40 | Dalamar1991 | to prevent theft i guess |
| 05:49.51 | Dalamar1991 | no... |
| 05:49.54 | Slayman | USA? |
| 05:49.59 | Dalamar1991 | in fact... it's one of the few things i hate about my country. |
| 05:50.04 | Dalamar1991 | Canada |
| 05:50.11 | Slayman | same difference |
| 05:50.23 | Dalamar1991 | =/ |
| 05:50.34 | Slayman | they naturally distrust their customers |
| 05:50.49 | Dalamar1991 | they have reason to |
| 05:50.51 | Bruners | thats because there is always people stealing stuff |
| 05:51.05 | Dalamar1991 | western folk are moronic about petty theft. |
| 05:51.06 | Slayman | not saying it's different here, but at least our shops are open explicitly for WotLK |
| 05:51.25 | Dalamar1991 | ours are too |
| 05:51.35 | Bruners | a girl that lives here with me work as a security guard and they daily have atleast 3-4 people shop lifting |
| 05:51.42 | Dalamar1991 | i'm talking about standing in the cold waiting for a midnight opening. |
| 05:51.46 | Slayman | so they let us in and let us wait in lines throughout the shop |
| 05:52.02 | Bruners | then theres the people that they dont notice |
| 05:52.10 | Dalamar1991 | and where are you fortunate enough to live? |
| 05:52.29 | Slayman | germany that is, however fortunate that makes me |
| 05:52.41 | Rayden | are there mods that will let me send text to the raid/party when i use an ability? so i don't have to write macros for all of them? |
| 05:52.53 | Dalamar1991 | i miss being in japan. |
| 05:53.06 | Slayman | haven't been there yet |
| 05:53.12 | Dalamar1991 | petty theft there is like 1 1000th of what it is here. |
| 05:53.24 | Dalamar1991 | and Canada is supposedly one of the safest countries in the world. |
| 05:53.47 | Bruners | define safe |
| 05:53.50 | Slayman | not wanna stir up things but crime especially in USA is kinda the peak of western civilisations |
| 05:54.00 | Dalamar1991 | well that's what i mean |
| 05:54.23 | Dalamar1991 | i agree, that in the western hemisphere Canada is very safe.... if you're speaking in RELATIVE terms. |
| 05:54.53 | Dalamar1991 | but we still have visible crime issues, that are almost non-existent in places like Japan. |
| 05:55.32 | robotusch | 17 hours'ish until I get in from the cold to recieve my copy of wotlk :< |
| 05:55.46 | Slayman | last numbers i heard there were as many deadly shootings in the USA a day as in one or two years in germany. That are disturbing numbers |
| 05:56.05 | Dalamar1991 | yea, but that's the US :P |
| 05:56.16 | Slayman | I like canada! |
| 05:56.18 | robotusch | More people, more guns = the result is obvious |
| 05:56.31 | Slayman | want to go there 2010 or sth for holidays |
| 05:56.33 | Bruners | cant really compare the whole US to germany |
| 05:56.51 | robotusch | oh my |
| 05:56.53 | Slayman | Bruners: no can't but that 2nd ammendment is bullshit |
| 05:57.09 | robotusch | 3 match ODI series starting today, that'll be good for company while levelling :D |
| 05:57.34 | Dalamar1991 | i agree |
| 05:57.43 | Slayman | Smallville Season 7 and what's to see of S08 should keep me some hours of company |
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| 06:00.47 | doom0r | sighs |
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| 06:00.53 | doom0r | i wish they'd hurry up and roll back |
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| 06:01.15 | Dalamar1991 | i wish they'd bring my server online. |
| 06:01.17 | doom0r | i'm not gonna go do stuff to have a roll back due to some random bug |
| 06:01.34 | doom0r | Dalamar1991: nah, just gonna get rolled back to reset all the free pvp gear |
| 06:01.40 | doom0r | might as well wait |
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| 06:03.16 | doom0r | i'd hate to be in management in that company atm |
| 06:03.21 | doom0r | ffs, hell |
| 06:04.36 | Gngsk | chillax man, consider it a pre-wotlk event! |
| 06:04.49 | doom0r | ? |
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| 06:05.23 | doom0r | i was refering to what their position would be like atm |
| 06:06.18 | doom0r | i wonder how they address issues like that |
| 06:06.30 | doom0r | prob throw on a big conference call |
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| 06:08.13 | Groktar | kewl, so you can connect to us with the eu client |
| 06:08.40 | doom0r | orly? |
| 06:09.13 | Groktar | yarly |
| 06:09.26 | doom0r | how? |
| 06:09.48 | Bruners | wowmatrix for linux isnt that bad |
| 06:10.10 | Jaxon | Can anyone recommend a small addon that'll let me bind skills/macros without putting them on a bar? |
| 06:10.16 | doom0r | i use the same thing on all platforms Bruners |
| 06:10.17 | doom0r | firefox |
| 06:10.19 | doom0r | ;x |
| 06:10.30 | doom0r | spell binder |
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| 06:10.48 | Jaxon | Thanks. |
| 06:10.54 | doom0r | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/spell-binder.aspx |
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| 06:13.16 | asmodai | I wonder how they managed to screw over in-game mail. |
| 06:13.16 | theoddone33 | honor items are supposedly free on my server |
| 06:13.21 | theoddone33 | no idea if it's a screwup or what |
| 06:14.01 | theoddone33 | tons of people trying to buy |
| 06:14.16 | theoddone33 | vender constantly giving "that object is busy", funny |
| 06:14.31 | asmodai | o_O |
| 06:15.56 | doom0r | theoddone33: it's certain classes s2 and a couple other items |
| 06:16.11 | theoddone33 | it's on purpose? |
| 06:16.15 | doom0r | lol no |
| 06:16.28 | doom0r | the costs are all screwed up on those vendors |
| 06:16.38 | Zhinjio | orionshock: working great. thank you |
| 06:16.52 | doom0r | that's why i just logged |
| 06:16.56 | orionshock | Zhinjio: u try the alpha version of guild craft |
| 06:16.57 | asmodai | http://www.wowbash.com/image-5587.html |
| 06:16.58 | doom0r | figure they'll have to rollback |
| 06:17.02 | asmodai | Zhinjio: dude! |
| 06:17.16 | asmodai | Zhinjio: got a BTC error last night |
| 06:17.23 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.36 | asmodai | lol, click next on that site: |
| 06:17.39 | orionshock | ya, try the search function, it takes several args now :D |
| 06:17.42 | asmodai | You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near ')ORDER BY date DESC LIMIT 5 , 5' at line 1 |
| 06:17.54 | Zhinjio | asmodai: there are a couple things I need to fix in it, yes. |
| 06:18.09 | asmodai | Zhinjio: in my case it happened when opening cooking skills' window |
| 06:18.37 | doom0r | asmodai: the last one is phenomenal |
| 06:19.15 | asmodai | although *thinks* |
| 06:19.25 | asmodai | could also be arl |
| 06:20.03 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03Sayclub * r89 GridStatusHots_locale.lua: koKR update |
| 06:20.13 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 764bc2a / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Create git repo |
| 06:20.25 | asmodai | Zhinjio / Ackis : http://paste.pocoo.org/show/90933/ |
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| 06:21.35 | Rayden | free gladiator gear? |
| 06:22.07 | Repo | 10range-display: 03Sayclub * r206 localizations/koKR.lua: Update locale koKR |
| 06:23.23 | Zhinjio | can you put that stack trace in a ticket again BTC, please |
| 06:23.32 | asmodai | Zhinjio: is it btc? |
| 06:23.46 | Zhinjio | I believe so |
| 06:23.47 | asmodai | ok |
| 06:24.45 | Rayden | http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/11/12/bug-rewards-free-and-discounted-pvp-gear/ |
| 06:25.55 | Rayden | i love how people are calling for bans for "exploiting" this |
| 06:25.56 | theoddone33 | the only honor gear that's free is the guardian neck and ring |
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| 06:26.05 | doom0r | it'd be funny if the changed were intention to load test ;x |
| 06:26.11 | doom0r | changes* |
| 06:26.31 | asmodai | Rayden: I seriously wonder if this is intentional or not. |
| 06:26.39 | Rayden | why would it be intentional? |
| 06:26.42 | asmodai | I mean, select items have no cost and others have had their cost adjusted |
| 06:26.52 | asmodai | that's a wacky fatfinger job to accomplish |
| 06:27.03 | Repo | 10proximo: 03Sayclub * r156 locals/localization-koKR.lua: Proximo: koKR update |
| 06:27.18 | Primer | argh, my realm is STILL down! |
| 06:27.48 | doom0r | asmodai: but who knows with them messing with mail |
| 06:28.00 | doom0r | something like that could spawn by accident easily |
| 06:28.15 | asmodai | doom0r: haha, perhaps yea :) |
| 06:28.46 | asmodai | Still, weird. |
| 06:28.50 | doom0r | but i still am all for load testing while keeping people busy till the mail is sorted ;x |
| 06:30.25 | Repo | 10guildmanager: 03ciscoh * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): resolved some db issues |
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| 06:31.39 | doom0r | i need somethig to keep me busy |
| 06:32.13 | doom0r | i wanna read a python book, but i don't feel like reading =\ |
| 06:33.29 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r132 modules/ScrollingMessageFrameHacks.lua: fix a leaked global in the smfhax timestamp splitting code |
| 06:34.57 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1052 / (10 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 06:34.58 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
| 06:34.59 | Repo | - Remove debug code by Elkano <3 |
| 06:35.00 | Repo | - Ran the dataminer to fix the few tickets outstanding |
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| 06:35.04 | Repo | - Reenabled Inscription... yes it's still fucked |
| 06:36.38 | doom0r | 18.098 / 6.099 Street-Fighting Mathematics |
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| 06:41.12 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 041.9 * r29 : Tagging as 1.9, now with German & French support. |
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| 06:51.10 | sylvanaar | someone with that prat timestamp bug want to see if that fixes it? |
| 06:55.27 | harl | my realm won't be available at least another 3 hours |
| 06:55.56 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar 04RC4 * r133 : Tagging as RC4 |
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| 06:56.43 | sylvanaar | i found a bug - that was probably it |
| 06:57.28 | kimurin | oh, i delete savedvar's for prat 5 minutes ago :( |
| 06:57.32 | Slayman | sylvanaar: only 5,5hours of work for me and then i can go and test it, what was the bug?^^ |
| 06:58.08 | sylvanaar | scrolling numbers in the timestamps column with 2 column chat + questhelper |
| 06:58.25 | Slayman | ah |
| 06:59.01 | sylvanaar | i think quest helper must doing something with the chatframes, idk what |
| 06:59.06 | sylvanaar | i dont have it |
| 06:59.24 | Slayman | me neither |
| 07:00.32 | Slayman | but look it's 14 more hours till AddOn buying time |
| 07:01.28 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 07:01.49 | Paene | you guys hear about all the free stuff for chars? |
| 07:01.54 | sylvanaar | i need sleep |
| 07:02.10 | harl | i plan on taking a nap now. |
| 07:02.18 | Slayman | Paene: enlighten us |
| 07:02.19 | Paene | Free S2 for priests |
| 07:02.25 | harl | then do some work |
| 07:02.34 | Paene | and free pvp caster stuff for all classes |
| 07:02.42 | harl | then see about the midnight thing |
| 07:02.59 | Paene | also rumors of free S6 for rogues, checking that tho |
| 07:03.05 | harl | maybe watch a video while waiting |
| 07:03.07 | Paene | er |
| 07:03.09 | Paene | T6 |
| 07:03.27 | sylvanaar | i guess i am going to go to work, and come home early and sleep - you can go an prepay at 10pm |
| 07:03.28 | harl | free T6 doesn't make sense |
| 07:04.05 | harl | actually, anything free doesn't make sense, much. |
| 07:05.02 | Slayman | harl: /agreed |
| 07:05.37 | Slayman | Paene: what you mean by 'free' and how does my warrior get some equip for leveling? |
| 07:06.04 | NeoTron | you get all this free gear in northrend |
| 07:06.26 | Slayman | by doing what? |
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| 07:07.03 | harl | i don't want free gear. i want to play the game and giving away free stuff totally goes against that. |
| 07:07.25 | NeoTron | Slayman: quests |
| 07:07.36 | NeoTron | sometimes they give you free gold too |
| 07:08.40 | Slayman | NeoTron: ah so it's nowhere near free gear it's just simply but upped Questrewards, that makes a tad more sense |
| 07:08.52 | NeoTron | naturally |
| 07:08.59 | Paene | it's a priest only thing |
| 07:09.00 | NeoTron | I dunno what Paene is talking about |
| 07:09.09 | harl | i hear, there's someone selling a ring with which, when worn, you'll sometimes find an uncommon item. cool, huh? |
| 07:09.10 | Paene | priests can get full free S2 from the arena vendor |
| 07:09.11 | NeoTron | but the first greens are ilevel 138 I believe |
| 07:09.30 | Paene | the items don't have any cost |
| 07:09.44 | Slayman | well my warrior with <10k health would like that very much |
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| 07:09.59 | Paene | and all classes are able to get the caster pvp neck pieces and the caster pvp ring |
| 07:10.29 | harl | you can already get "free" s2 (free like in you don't have to do the arena crap) |
| 07:11.06 | harl | that's why about every third character's running around with some of it |
| 07:11.26 | Paene | Lemme put it this way, I just bought full S2 shadow gear and S2 healing gear without paying any honor, tokens, or arena points |
| 07:11.46 | Paene | nor gold |
| 07:12.33 | Slayman | that is kinda free so to speak quite possibly a bug or sth |
| 07:13.09 | Paene | prob |
| 07:13.51 | Paene | so in short |
| 07:14.07 | Paene | if you think you're ever gonna play a priest, roll a level 1 and go buy all the gear lol |
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| 07:14.40 | harl | may prefur not to. |
| 07:14.50 | Paene | also not sure if this was in the patch notes of not, but S4 weapons don't have rating requirements either |
| 07:15.52 | doom0r | harl: lol @ nagel |
| 07:15.56 | Slayman | how about that heirloom items, when can i get my hand of one of them to make lvling my huntard a piece of delicious cake (since it is a piece of cake already) |
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| 07:16.29 | Paene | Hunters can get free S4 weapons |
| 07:16.30 | NeoTron | ok so the caster neck and caster ring is definitely free.. ilevel 154 |
| 07:16.42 | NeoTron | what I wonder though is if they will revert it |
| 07:17.14 | NeoTron | for the time when shaman t6 was free, did they ban people or just take the gear? |
| 07:17.38 | Paene | everyone's been mad rushing the vendors |
| 07:17.43 | Paene | I doubt they're gonna ban |
| 07:17.56 | Paene | Shamans get a free helm |
| 07:17.57 | Primer | sigh...still down... |
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| 07:18.37 | NeoTron | I suspect they however will remove |
| 07:18.37 | harl | doom0r: what? |
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| 07:18.56 | doom0r | -01:09:33- [harl]: i hear, there's someone selling a ring with which, when worn, you'll sometimes find an uncommon item. cool, huh? |
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| 07:19.09 | harl | ah. yea. |
| 07:20.25 | Paene | Looks like it's Priests get free S2 Armor, Hunters get free S4 weapons, Shamans get free S2 Helm, all classes can get free caster pvp rings and pvp necks |
| 07:20.29 | KriLL3 | "We experienced an error that resulted in players being unable to retrieve in-game mail from the last 15 days. Once the error was discovered, we brought down the realms immediately" they didn't notice it for 15 DAYS? |
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| 07:20.44 | KriLL3 | Paene: huh? |
| 07:20.45 | Paene | though in a week or two, none of it will matter |
| 07:21.06 | KriLL3 | anything for the furries? |
| 07:21.19 | Paene | KriLL3: If you have any of those classes, go check out the pvp vendors |
| 07:21.28 | KriLL3 | in SW? |
| 07:21.31 | Paene | yep |
| 07:21.39 | KriLL3 | I'm feral, nothing for me? :( |
| 07:21.49 | Paene | just the caster necks/rings lol |
| 07:21.55 | Slayman | need warriorZ stuffz |
| 07:22.02 | KriLL3 | Is it a bug? |
| 07:22.09 | p4aved1 | yes |
| 07:22.26 | p4aved1 | apprenlty is happened on beta aswell wen s4 ended and it seems was never fixed |
| 07:22.44 | Paene | lol |
| 07:22.47 | KriLL3 | I only need S3/4 shoulders/weapon |
| 07:23.08 | KriLL3 | got S4 in all other slots |
| 07:23.40 | NeoTron | Paene: and rogues get free S6 or is that fake? |
| 07:23.48 | Paene | fake |
| 07:24.06 | NeoTron | I think I'll check on my hunter.. because it's on a safe account :P |
| 07:24.08 | Paene | rumor has it that locks can get free S2 as well |
| 07:24.22 | Paene | I don't have a lock to check tho |
| 07:24.24 | NeoTron | my swp geared lock doesn't need anything nor does my paladin |
| 07:24.58 | NeoTron | are the vendors only in stormwind? |
| 07:25.15 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 07:25.24 | KriLL3 | or org, if you're so inclined |
| 07:25.45 | NeoTron | might be hard for my alliance hunter... :P |
| 07:25.56 | KriLL3 | I didn't know your faction |
| 07:26.11 | KriLL3 | you might have been one of them |
| 07:26.20 | KriLL3 | you never know |
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| 07:27.33 | Fisker- | i'm so srs |
| 07:27.42 | KriLL3 | y so srs? |
| 07:28.10 | Fisker- | dunno |
| 07:28.24 | Paene | S4 hunter offhand is available in Area 51 |
| 07:28.29 | Paene | apparently |
| 07:28.36 | Paene | and, rumor has it, it's being hotfixed now |
| 07:28.47 | KriLL3 | do you get banhammered if you do it? |
| 07:28.55 | Paene | doubt it |
| 07:29.00 | Paene | they'd be banning a lot of people |
| 07:29.04 | Fisker- | so what? |
| 07:29.22 | Paene | that's a lot of revenue loss |
| 07:29.27 | Fisker- | No |
| 07:29.44 | Fisker- | Also banning people isn't a business decision |
| 07:30.12 | Paene | meh, if I were in control of banning people, I'd think twice before banning over a million players |
| 07:30.29 | Paene | (guesstimated number btw) |
| 07:30.51 | Fisker- | You probably would |
| 07:31.11 | p4aved1 | y ban some1 for your own mistake |
| 07:31.35 | Fisker- | why not? |
| 07:31.37 | Fisker- | Might as well |
| 07:31.39 | Paene | that too, last I checked, bannable offenses were only when someone takes advantage of an exploit |
| 07:31.44 | Paene | this isn't an exploit |
| 07:31.47 | Paene | this is bad QA |
| 07:31.51 | Fisker- | No |
| 07:32.02 | Paene | especially if they knew about it on beta like someone said |
| 07:32.14 | Slayman | lol there are scientists who believe one be addicted to WoW or the internets |
| 07:32.16 | p4aved1 | that was me, i read about it on mmo |
| 07:32.27 | p4aved1 | there are some posts in there forum somwer |
| 07:32.29 | NeoTron | hthey didn't ban people for shammy s6 afaik |
| 07:32.39 | Paene | they'll prob rollback the realms |
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| 07:32.52 | Paene | and apparently realms have stopped coming up |
| 07:33.01 | p4aved1 | y Paene? the mail fix doens't require a rollback |
| 07:33.15 | Paene | not talking about the mail fix :) |
| 07:33.21 | p4aved1 | the arina gear well who honestly cares, its obsolete in 22 h ours |
| 07:33.24 | Paene | talking about the OMG FREE PVP EPICS fix |
| 07:33.29 | Paene | yeah |
| 07:33.35 | Paene | but people will bitch |
| 07:33.48 | p4aved1 | and? have u read wow general forums recently? |
| 07:38.01 | Repo | 10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r10 DebuffEnough.lua: fix party/raid chat reporting |
| 07:39.47 | CIA-63 | panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r5dc1607 10/ Disenchanting.lua : Don't test ever bag item for soulboundedness, just ones we can DE - http://is.gd/76CD |
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| 07:42.00 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r1735 / (4 files in 4 directories): - second part of final 5man update |
| 07:42.59 | theoddone33 | doubt they'll roll back |
| 07:43.04 | theoddone33 | hope not at least, that'd be annoying |
| 07:43.16 | theoddone33 | so people get a free neck that's obselete anway, no big deal |
| 07:43.44 | Paene | think more people are gonna be angry over the free S4 hunter weapon |
| 07:44.00 | theoddone33 | it's just the offhand |
| 07:44.04 | Arrowmaster | this happened before with a piece of shaman t6, they just removed the items from everybody that got it while it was bugged |
| 07:45.31 | Slayman | i wonder how intense their logging must be to know what everyone was receiving when from whom that's quite a lot of relations between the DBs |
| 07:45.42 | theoddone33 | happened a while ago with the useless bop JC trinket and they didn't do anything |
| 07:45.49 | Arrowmaster | they log every item transaction |
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| 07:46.54 | Slayman | Arrowmaster: yeah possibly with time and currency spent too |
| 07:46.55 | theoddone33 | doesn't really matter to me if they take em |
| 07:47.01 | theoddone33 | I'm not going to use them anyway realistically |
| 07:47.45 | Arrowmaster | i have a full t6 warlock with 0 pvp gear and im not even bothering to login and try to get it |
| 07:48.51 | theoddone33 | normal realm? |
| 07:48.56 | theoddone33 | I'm going to level in pvp gear most likely |
| 07:48.57 | Arrowmaster | pvp realm |
| 07:49.07 | Jaxon | Can anyone recommend a LDB durability addon that actually works? |
| 07:49.19 | Arrowmaster | its only s2 |
| 07:49.47 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 07:49.51 | theoddone33 | it was welfare gear *already* |
| 07:50.18 | Arrowmaster | i thought about going affliction for leveling again |
| 07:50.27 | Slayman | I still need mr. Plow for guild banks |
| 07:50.37 | Arrowmaster | i would be unkillable with the amount of selfhealing affliction has and my +dmg |
| 07:50.57 | Slayman | Arrowmaster: according to my nonexistent knowledge lvl is easiest with demonology |
| 07:51.17 | Slayman | s/lvl/lvlin/ |
| 07:51.44 | Slayman | ~orthography |
| 07:52.03 | Slayman | purl, learn english |
| 07:52.14 | Arrowmaster | i did 60-70 as affliction and theres no way that would have been easier as demo |
| 07:52.28 | Arrowmaster | i fear kited almost every 5 man quest mob |
| 07:52.29 | Slayman | purl, die |
| 07:52.30 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 07:52.34 | Slayman | purl, stupid bot |
| 07:52.35 | purl | Stupid human. |
| 07:52.51 | dodga | purl, candy |
| 07:52.52 | purl | methinks candy is a sweet treat many people over eat |
| 07:53.02 | Arrowmaster | ~botsnack |
| 07:53.02 | purl | Arrowmaster: :) |
| 07:53.05 | dodga | purl, boobies |
| 07:53.05 | purl | boobies are always fun to play with, or very big |
| 07:53.09 | dodga | hehehe |
| 07:53.12 | dodga | purl is clever :> |
| 07:53.30 | Slayman | purl, take a cookie |
| 07:53.41 | Slayman | purl, ignore me |
| 07:53.41 | purl | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, slayman!" |
| 07:53.42 | Arrowmaster | ~botsnack |
| 07:53.42 | purl | Arrowmaster: thanks |
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| 07:54.10 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 07:54.11 | doom0r | wtb time back for dailies |
| 07:54.37 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r26 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:54.38 | Repo | - Removed debug code - now requires an actual DK to load and function. See you in Northrend |
| 07:54.47 | Slayman | ~whaleslap purl |
| 07:54.47 | purl | ACTION beats purl upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 08:01.05 | leech2k | Probably been said already but WotLK torrent is up on btjunkie.org |
| 08:01.25 | Arrowmaster | been up since the 10th |
| 08:01.34 | leech2k | says 11th |
| 08:01.43 | Arrowmaster | torrent says 10th |
| 08:01.49 | Arrowmaster | im at 89.2% |
| 08:02.20 | leech2k | must be a diffent one cause this one says 11 |
| 08:02.32 | Arrowmaster | btjunkie isnt a tracker |
| 08:02.38 | Arrowmaster | its a meta search site |
| 08:02.40 | *** join/#wowace charon (n=thomas@unaffiliated/charon) |
| 08:02.41 | leech2k | no, its not |
| 08:03.05 | Slayman | have mine since 11/09 |
| 08:03.14 | leech2k | hmm |
| 08:03.19 | Arrowmaster | Slayman: EU or NA? |
| 08:03.22 | Slayman | eu |
| 08:03.26 | Arrowmaster | na here |
| 08:03.31 | leech2k | mine only has 146 seeds and I can't get junk for speed |
| 08:03.32 | Slayman | aah |
| 08:03.47 | Arrowmaster | 139 seeds is what i see |
| 08:04.00 | TheDeamon_ | piratebay shows 145 seeds for me |
| 08:04.22 | Arrowmaster | 4EE333AE4E3DC035E3B22BF53E8703625F160938 |
| 08:04.26 | Arrowmaster | that the hash? |
| 08:04.35 | TheDeamon_ | yup |
| 08:04.49 | leech2k | yup |
| 08:04.54 | leech2k | there are a ton of trackers |
| 08:05.02 | leech2k | so who knows when it was up frist |
| 08:05.06 | Arrowmaster | i got bumped off tpb tracker, back on the primary and it says 141 |
| 08:05.19 | Arrowmaster | it was up on the 10th on only mininova |
| 08:05.42 | TheDeamon_ | link to one of the other trackers? |
| 08:06.22 | Arrowmaster | its all tpb trackers + h3q.com and torrentsnipe.info |
| 08:06.27 | leech2k | ugh I am getting like .5kb a second down |
| 08:06.36 | KriLL3 | I got 1MB/s on it 2 days ago |
| 08:06.44 | leech2k | I usually get 1+mb |
| 08:06.57 | KriLL3 | guess the leechers attacked with furious vengeance |
| 08:07.09 | leech2k | 40k leachers 140 seeds wtf |
| 08:07.10 | Arrowmaster | 4.4k in swarm |
| 08:07.22 | leech2k | whoops |
| 08:07.23 | leech2k | 4k |
| 08:07.24 | Arrowmaster | lol its not 40k |
| 08:07.38 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: wouldn't surprise me |
| 08:07.52 | Arrowmaster | at this point i wouldnt bother starting the torrent, its been slow |
| 08:07.53 | leech2k | woohoo 1kb |
| 08:08.00 | Arrowmaster | youll get the box before it finishes |
| 08:08.23 | leech2k | doesn't hurt me to keep it going so... we shall see |
| 08:08.37 | Slayman | you needz rapidshare linkz |
| 08:08.43 | leech2k | gonna check a couple private trackers |
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| 08:09.45 | leech2k | ugg they don't have it |
| 08:09.58 | Lex | anyone know a macro that just turns on autoattack without toggling it off if you press it again? |
| 08:10.16 | Arrowmaster | /startattack |
| 08:10.22 | Lex | Arrowmaster: thanks |
| 08:10.53 | KriLL3 | I just wish attacks that aren't CC etc started autoattacks if they failed to land for what ever reason |
| 08:11.18 | KriLL3 | sucks hitting mangle/shred/etc and either your energy is too low or you're not in the right position, and autoattacks aren't started |
| 08:11.33 | Lex | just put /startattack at the end of that ability's macro |
| 08:11.42 | Lex | do you use Macaroon? |
| 08:11.44 | KriLL3 | a macro for just about all my buttons? nice =P |
| 08:11.48 | Lex | yup! |
| 08:11.58 | Lex | all of Macaroon's buttons are macro buttons |
| 08:12.07 | KriLL3 | what?... |
| 08:12.08 | Lex | so if you want to do cool stuff, just use Macaroon. |
| 08:12.19 | Lex | best action bar addon ever. :) |
| 08:12.27 | KriLL3 | no thanks... |
| 08:12.36 | Lex | they act like normal buttons |
| 08:12.44 | Lex | you can move actions from your spellbook onto it etc. |
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| 08:12.53 | Lex | it's by the author of TrinityBars |
| 08:13.01 | KriLL3 | which I hate |
| 08:13.05 | Lex | who isn't continuing development of TrinityBars |
| 08:13.19 | Lex | because Macaroon is so much better |
| 08:13.38 | KriLL3 | I use BT4, I don't need some pseudo macro foolery |
| 08:13.40 | Slayman | bartender4 is the best buttonaddon i met after Sprocket but Sprocket was God among men |
| 08:14.52 | Lex | foolery, KriLL3? |
| 08:15.09 | KriLL3 | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=foolery+ |
| 08:15.11 | Lex | you should probably know what you're talking about before dismissing Macaroon as "foolery"... |
| 08:15.19 | NeoTron | main issue with that is that once they implement multiple specs it might not handle spec-based bars |
| 08:15.23 | NeoTron | which any normal addon would |
| 08:16.37 | NeoTron | I'm seeding the US seed from my webhost with a 700kB/s limit |
| 08:17.12 | Lex | i currently use Macaroon on all my characters and have no problem respeccing. the Macaroon author is also very active at developing handling for anything new that comes out. |
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| 08:17.28 | sb|work | MORNING |
| 08:18.02 | Slayman | mornings sb|work I'm at work for 3h already you lazy bum! |
| 08:18.03 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (n=s_m@a02-0602a.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 08:18.37 | KriLL3 | Lex: I might have been a bit more interested in trying it if you didn't sound like a walking advertisement |
| 08:18.47 | Jaxon | No shit. |
| 08:18.56 | sb|work | Slayman: haha :p |
| 08:19.02 | Slayman | ^^ |
| 08:19.49 | Lex | KriLL3: how is that a productive mindset for anything? you'd just disregard something because someone else is excessively enthused? |
| 08:20.04 | Lex | i'll admit i was a bit over the top. sorry about that. |
| 08:20.31 | sb|work | Slayman: 16:00 is deadline for me today... 1.5 weeks off from work then ;o |
| 08:20.34 | KriLL3 | Lex: you consider becoming a Mormon after they knock on your door 07:00 on Sun/Saturday? |
| 08:20.42 | Slayman | sb|work: but on the bright side I'll be out of here in exactly 4h from now :-D |
| 08:20.54 | KriLL3 | Lex: np :) |
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| 08:20.58 | Lex | i'd at least research so i have an idea why i wouldn't want to become Mormon first. :P |
| 08:21.13 | KriLL3 | I really like BT4 and I don't see any real reason to switch, I don't need that many macros |
| 08:21.22 | KriLL3 | Lex: it's a religion, that's enough for me ;) |
| 08:21.27 | Lex | KriLL3: fair enough. |
| 08:21.53 | Lex | KriLL3: btw, same with me. down with religion. |
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| 08:22.16 | KriLL3 | on a brighter note: http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/We+Are+Mature/ |
| 08:22.37 | Lex | gotta love Weebl's cartoons. :D |
| 08:22.49 | KriLL3 | :D |
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| 08:23.53 | sb|work | du Slayman 6.5h ;) |
| 08:23.56 | sb|work | -du |
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| 08:24.44 | Wobin | The problem with weebl |
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| 08:24.51 | Wobin | is that you can never stop watching it once it starts |
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| 08:25.56 | KriLL3 | indeed... |
| 08:26.32 | Primer | my realm is finally up |
| 08:26.42 | Primer | and everyone's going nuts talking about free gear |
| 08:26.53 | Primer | in fact, it seems that the S2 vendor has everything for free |
| 08:27.05 | Primer | thing is, everything I have is already better than S2 |
| 08:27.36 | RaydenUni | i love how some people get pissed when you theorycraft |
| 08:27.40 | RaydenUni | numbers are part of the game! |
| 08:27.43 | RaydenUni | they are not the devil! |
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| 08:27.52 | RaydenUni | all s2 is free now? |
| 08:28.00 | KriLL3 | no |
| 08:28.01 | Lex | only for priests and warlocks. |
| 08:28.09 | Lex | all s2 is free for priests and warlocks. |
| 08:28.17 | Primer | heh, I have one of each! |
| 08:28.18 | KriLL3 | some misc other stuff is also free |
| 08:28.24 | KriLL3 | S4 offhand for hunters, etc |
| 08:28.28 | RaydenUni | drat |
| 08:28.28 | Primer | I should upgrade my S1 helm on my priest |
| 08:28.32 | RaydenUni | none of that is druid gear |
| 08:28.41 | Lex | s4 caster necks are both free, as is the haste ring. |
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| 08:29.05 | RaydenUni | what mod did i just install that adds huge player info windows when i mouse over someone? |
| 08:29.24 | Nosnam | Don't delete your old gear yet ;) |
| 08:29.37 | RaydenUni | what does cowtip do? |
| 08:29.58 | KriLL3 | tooltips |
| 08:29.59 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.15 | KriLL3 | generally huge tooltips by default |
| 08:30.17 | Wobin | Or maybe tags your dogs |
| 08:30.20 | RaydenUni | for say players? |
| 08:30.23 | KriLL3 | anything |
| 08:30.25 | RaydenUni | like taking up my whole screen? |
| 08:30.35 | KriLL3 | not that big |
| 08:30.41 | KriLL3 | but yeah generally quite huge |
| 08:30.44 | Jaxon | BECAUSE DOGTAGS ARE THAT AWESOME. |
| 08:30.57 | KriLL3 | by default it's like a speadsheet, with Name: <Name> etc |
| 08:31.05 | KriLL3 | No idea why |
| 08:31.16 | Wobin | screenshot it, Ray? |
| 08:31.19 | KriLL3 | TipTac is a lot better |
| 08:31.21 | RaydenUni | name, target, guild, guild rank, level, race, class, faction, heal, mana |
| 08:31.23 | RaydenUni | good grief |
| 08:31.25 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 08:31.32 | RaydenUni | um |
| 08:31.32 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 08:31.37 | KriLL3 | switch to TipTac http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7593-TipTac.html |
| 08:31.57 | doom0r | no no no |
| 08:31.59 | KriLL3 | it's a lot more compact |
| 08:32.02 | ckknight | you're perfectly capable of customizing CowTip to show only what you want |
| 08:32.08 | doom0r | tiptac is tipbuddy gone ugly |
| 08:32.12 | KriLL3 | ckknight: if you knew dogtags |
| 08:32.16 | mitch0 | yo |
| 08:32.20 | KriLL3 | doom0r: I really like it |
| 08:32.25 | RaydenUni | not even sure i want this |
| 08:32.27 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:32.29 | mitch0 | were there any issues with AceDB3 not saving stuff properly lately? |
| 08:32.30 | RaydenUni | just thought i'd see what cowtip was |
| 08:32.31 | ckknight | reference* |
| 08:32.31 | doom0r | i forgot but something bothered the hell outta me |
| 08:32.44 | Jaxon | doom0r: its weird, but I like TipTac, hated TipBuddy. |
| 08:32.53 | KriLL3 | doom0r: I switched from tipbuddy to tiptac and felt at home |
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| 08:32.59 | doom0r | meh |
| 08:33.03 | doom0r | ymmv strikes |
| 08:33.13 | RaydenUni | http://raydenuni.com/files/images/wow/cowtip.png |
| 08:33.15 | RaydenUni | still uploading |
| 08:33.17 | KriLL3 | taste is like asses, and all that |
| 08:33.48 | doom0r | i'm overly ocd so i have to have certain things certain ways |
| 08:33.48 | RaydenUni | also it's big |
| 08:33.48 | doom0r | goes beyond taste |
| 08:33.49 | KriLL3 | RaydenUni: yeah that's cowtip |
| 08:33.49 | RaydenUni | all done |
| 08:33.49 | RaydenUni | i can't stand tooltips that hover over your mouse |
| 08:33.49 | RaydenUni | you can't see anything when that happens |
| 08:33.51 | KriLL3 | I have no idea why it's a spreadsheet by default.. |
| 08:34.01 | doom0r | i still really haven't edited my cowtip =\ |
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| 08:34.06 | doom0r | just the broke threat line |
| 08:34.08 | KriLL3 | yeah tiptac can do that but by default it's on an anchor, that you can move |
| 08:34.22 | KriLL3 | I got it top center |
| 08:34.49 | RaydenUni | oh |
| 08:34.59 | RaydenUni | so i'm looking for a mod that will send info to raid/part when i use an ability |
| 08:35.00 | doom0r | cowtip has anchor position skew |
| 08:35.03 | RaydenUni | so i don't have to macro everything |
| 08:35.06 | RaydenUni | suggestions? |
| 08:35.24 | KriLL3 | RaydenUni: tankcast or something like that is what I use, but that's for tanks |
| 08:35.48 | RaydenUni | what's special for tanks? |
| 08:35.52 | KriLL3 | "TankWarnings" |
| 08:36.00 | RaydenUni | woah |
| 08:36.01 | KriLL3 | reports resists to taunt etc, last stand etc |
| 08:36.08 | RaydenUni | all the pvp gear is not in an instanced room anymore |
| 08:36.13 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 08:36.17 | KriLL3 | welcome to 3.0.2 |
| 08:36.22 | RaydenUni | i just wanted to add the "NOT THE FACE" for when i use certain moves :P |
| 08:36.28 | KriLL3 | =P |
| 08:36.28 | RaydenUni | i don't pvp much |
| 08:36.40 | RaydenUni | like barkskin |
| 08:36.56 | RaydenUni | although that's not too useful to tell people |
| 08:37.01 | RaydenUni | survival instincts more so |
| 08:37.13 | RaydenUni | frenzied regen if i get the glyph would be useful |
| 08:37.33 | KriLL3 | frenzied + survival + barkskin = what dmg? |
| 08:38.30 | RaydenUni | should i spend my honor points, or will those not be getting erased? |
| 08:38.40 | KriLL3 | honor isn't reset |
| 08:38.53 | KriLL3 | neither are bg marks |
| 08:39.07 | KriLL3 | arena points are reset at 71 |
| 08:39.50 | mitch0 | what's the easiest way to anchor my frame to the mouse pointer? (a tooltip-like thing). can I do it with a simple SetPoint() using some special parent? |
| 08:40.20 | KriLL3 | mitch0: make an option to use an anchor also, a lot of people got pathological hated for that stuff |
| 08:40.30 | mitch0 | yeah, I know |
| 08:40.46 | mitch0 | will be configurable (if I ever figure out how to do it in the first place :) |
| 08:41.38 | mitch0 | guess I'll have to check out some tooltip addon |
| 08:41.54 | mitch0 | cowtip creates its own frame, right? |
| 08:42.07 | KriLL3 | don't look at me... |
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| 08:43.02 | Slayman | looks at KriLL3 anyways for an answer |
| 08:43.35 | Repo | 10lern2count: 03jerry * r123 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix embeds |
| 08:43.49 | doom0r | falls in love with Select |
| 08:44.12 | thecookie | okay |
| 08:44.17 | RaydenUni | tankwarnings looks nifty |
| 08:44.40 | p4aved1 | and annoying |
| 08:44.41 | KriLL3 | well it's identical to 100+ other addons that do the same thing =P |
| 08:44.44 | Repo | 10lern2count: 03jerry * r124 Core.lua: Fix call to Interface API |
| 08:44.45 | RaydenUni | that too |
| 08:44.52 | RaydenUni | i've never played with an addon that does announcements |
| 08:44.56 | RaydenUni | time to SPAM |
| 08:45.08 | p4aved1 | "ur taunt was resisted!" ohrly the fact the mob is beating on a healer didn't give it away |
| 08:45.21 | KriLL3 | well then they know you tried |
| 08:45.38 | p4aved1 | i no i tired, i pressed "2" |
| 08:45.41 | p4aved1 | the taunt button |
| 08:45.59 | mitch0 | krill: or they know you created a macro to make you look like you tried :) |
| 08:46.00 | RaydenUni | and they know you can't immediately taunt again |
| 08:46.18 | p4aved1 | or, healers trust ur not goin to let mobs beat on them |
| 08:46.24 | RaydenUni | tanking is one part doing a good job, one part hiding when you screw up, and one part convincing everyone else you are doing well |
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| 08:47.08 | RaydenUni | "why did you let that mob hit me?" "uh, taunt was on cooldown.... yeah. cooldown" |
| 08:47.12 | p4aved1 | or u use mocking blow/ aoe taunt, the point being, any mod that spams chat channels is annoying |
| 08:47.24 | KriLL3 | naw, it's 9/10 pulling aggro back from that retarted guy that goes full out dps on the wrong target, or AoEs before you've hit any of them |
| 08:47.40 | KriLL3 | p4aved1: it doesn't spam, it does it once |
| 08:47.53 | RaydenUni | why do i always end up in groups with people who get all offended when i tell them they need to let me get aggro before they attack? |
| 08:48.06 | p4aved1 | spam in ihis case refers to any automated chat msgs |
| 08:48.14 | KriLL3 | had a pirouette warrior do his thing all over the mobs, not carring if they were cc:ed or not, or If I'd even hit any of them yet... |
| 08:48.18 | Fisker- | The end is near |
| 08:48.57 | RaydenUni | oh nice, i can set my own messages |
| 08:48.57 | KriLL3 | really easy to get aggro from 4-6 mobs with almost no rage and no mobs hitting you |
| 08:49.13 | p4aved1 | bloodrage, charge |
| 08:49.20 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 08:49.29 | p4aved1 | both give u rage |
| 08:49.36 | KriLL3 | No they don't |
| 08:49.40 | KriLL3 | I'm feral |
| 08:49.47 | p4aved1 | ...my...bad |
| 08:49.53 | p4aved1 | sry <--- warrior |
| 08:50.07 | RaydenUni | i hate when i don't have enough rage to do challenging roar |
| 08:50.10 | RaydenUni | quick, pop enrage! |
| 08:50.49 | Slayman | i hate when i have too much rage after crit-athon |
| 08:51.12 | RaydenUni | ? |
| 08:51.17 | KriLL3 | heh, swipe vs 3+ opponents, infinite rage |
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| 08:51.34 | RaydenUni | rawr |
| 08:52.17 | Zhinjio | orionshock: ping |
| 08:52.24 | orionshock | da |
| 08:52.33 | Zhinjio | rediscovering your roots screws it up. |
| 08:52.47 | Zhinjio | I *don't* have that one done, but I do have the other one done (2 on that vendor) |
| 08:52.55 | Zhinjio | it starts looping turning in that quest and cancelling. |
| 08:52.56 | Zhinjio | over and over |
| 08:53.37 | Zhinjio | I turned off handling of that one quest, and its otherwise working fantastically |
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| 08:58.10 | doom0r | wtb mail |
| 08:58.12 | doom0r | i have gold to make |
| 08:58.28 | RaydenUni | i sold made 250g from some sales |
| 08:58.30 | RaydenUni | happya bout that |
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| 08:58.47 | doom0r | i have like 1000g worth of stuff that i was gonna ah before wrath |
| 08:58.49 | doom0r | but noooooooo |
| 08:59.06 | RaydenUni | yeah i finally got around to trying to sell my stuff yesterday |
| 08:59.19 | Slayman | doom0r: shouldn't have waited that long before it hits^^ |
| 08:59.22 | RaydenUni | not that i have much |
| 08:59.27 | doom0r | why Slayman? |
| 08:59.32 | doom0r | it'd sell in an hour or two |
| 08:59.50 | Slayman | so you could have sold anything |
| 08:59.53 | RaydenUni | what kind of stuff? |
| 09:00.05 | doom0r | chant mats and such |
| 09:00.18 | doom0r | stuff that goes quick |
| 09:00.23 | RaydenUni | our gbank got cleared out a few weeks ago |
| 09:00.44 | doom0r | i wish i cleared my old one |
| 09:00.53 | doom0r | if i knew the guild was gonna fall apart i would have |
| 09:00.58 | doom0r | elementium ore /cry |
| 09:01.01 | doom0r | i have 24 |
| 09:01.21 | Slayman | i sold all my crap, well in the aftermath I shouldn't have but it was about 830 Gold which is OKish |
| 09:01.25 | doom0r | if i sold all that stuff i STILL wouldn't need gold |
| 09:01.28 | RaydenUni | i meant that the leader sold it all on the AH |
| 09:01.35 | RaydenUni | but we did lose all our void crystals a while ago |
| 09:01.41 | doom0r | lol 840 |
| 09:01.49 | Slayman | wasn't that much actually |
| 09:01.52 | mort | i sold my old stuff over the last 2 weeks, even that was too late, the prices dropped like crazy |
| 09:01.54 | doom0r | i would have had at least 300k |
| 09:02.00 | Slayman | some primals some herb some ore |
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| 09:02.19 | doom0r | split among member, that'd still be a ton |
| 09:02.22 | Slayman | doom0r: you cannot amass 300k on one char |
| 09:02.29 | mort | large prismatic shards are down to 4g on our server |
| 09:02.42 | doom0r | Slayman: i have two accounts, that's more than one char |
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| 09:03.01 | RaydenUni | i want 300k |
| 09:03.01 | doom0r | gold cap still wouldn't mean crap |
| 09:03.22 | odt | mort: no point in selling now |
| 09:03.37 | odt | just keep em stashed, prices will go up when they become rare ;) |
| 09:03.52 | doom0r | prob is they won't be rare |
| 09:04.02 | doom0r | sso dailies are fast chant mats |
| 09:04.12 | odt | not the blues tho |
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| 09:04.27 | doom0r | i get least 2 large prismatics a day from greens |
| 09:04.44 | odt | will you still do sso dailies after wotlk? |
| 09:04.48 | doom0r | it's rather common with the higher ones |
| 09:04.54 | doom0r | yes |
| 09:04.59 | odt | ... |
| 09:05.00 | doom0r | quick cash |
| 09:05.04 | doom0r | why wouldnt' you? |
| 09:05.11 | mort | i sold most of them before they dropped that low and i don"t really care, if have more than enough money ;) |
| 09:05.12 | odt | theres only 25 dailies per day |
| 09:05.18 | odt | and sso is lvl70 dailies giving 6g each |
| 09:05.20 | doom0r | just cause i'm 71 doesn't mean i'm not gonna do dailies |
| 09:05.40 | doom0r | etc |
| 09:05.44 | odt | well, i know i'll be questing and leveling, got more money that i can use |
| 09:05.52 | Fisker- | Anyone know how much exp the dailies will give? |
| 09:06.08 | odt | http://treebarkjacket.blogspot.com/2008/11/hoarded-quests-will-give-xp-after-wotlk.html |
| 09:06.17 | odt | i have 25 dailies ready to hand in |
| 09:06.28 | odt | don't think ill do any of those in the coming 6 months |
| 09:07.24 | asmodai | reddit is just amazing at times |
| 09:07.26 | asmodai | http://www.reddit.com/r/business/comments/7csdj/condénet_owners_of_reddit_have_today_laid_off/ |
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| 09:07.40 | asmodai | and they start a whole subthread on chiropractors. |
| 09:08.28 | Repo | 10magic-targets: 03dhedbor * r69 MagicTargets.lua: - Hide questionmark icons. |
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| 09:11.49 | Repo | 10magicrunes: 03dhedbor * r27 MagicRunes.lua: - Removed the debug 'mana monitoring' from the runic bar. |
| 09:12.15 | asmodai | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3328480/Otto-the-octopus-wrecks-havoc.html |
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| 09:15.04 | doom0r | maybe he just hates being locked in a damn piece of glass? |
| 09:15.35 | thul | I'm trying to comprehend the amount of calculations that nikkor engeneers did in 1940-1950 when they raytraced all calculations by hand |
| 09:15.38 | thul | that is.. kind of sick |
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| 09:17.12 | doom0r | by hand? |
| 09:17.42 | thul | well, they used pencils I imagine |
| 09:17.45 | thul | and blackboards.. |
| 09:17.46 | doom0r | um |
| 09:17.49 | doom0r | logrules |
| 09:17.51 | doom0r | abacus |
| 09:18.25 | doom0r | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_machine |
| 09:18.35 | thul | well, still. a table would only be accurate for a certain glass combination? |
| 09:19.37 | doom0r | inputting data is slower, calculating should not be if the tools are available |
| 09:19.40 | thul | like, of course they used sheets of logs and abacus |
| 09:20.11 | thul | and before they used those, they calculated it all manually |
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| 09:20.25 | thul | so stop raining on lens design engeneering people's parade |
| 09:20.26 | thul | YOU RAINER |
| 09:20.47 | Fisker- | First i were like :3 |
| 09:21.07 | Fisker- | But then i lol'd |
| 09:21.08 | asmodai | doom0r: I found it nice how otto is apparently pissed off by the light :) |
| 09:21.21 | doom0r | so they move it to keep it on him |
| 09:21.31 | doom0r | those people disgust me |
| 09:22.10 | asmodai | Free Otto! |
| 09:22.11 | asmodai | :P |
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| 09:22.55 | asmodai | http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=22967 |
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| 09:23.05 | asmodai | Why on earth does it have Smelt Elementium twice? o_O |
| 09:23.21 | asmodai | Aside from different spell ids |
| 09:24.13 | asmodai | best part http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=53417 lists http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=22967 as an additional rank o_O |
| 09:24.35 | doom0r | ones taught by the dude in bwl |
| 09:24.39 | doom0r | the others probably trainer? |
| 09:24.44 | asmodai | ah |
| 09:24.52 | sacarasc | i've never got it from a trainer... |
| 09:25.05 | doom0r | it says wrath |
| 09:25.10 | doom0r | new in |
| 09:25.54 | doom0r | my rogue knows it i'm pretty sure |
| 09:26.00 | asmodai | ah yes: |
| 09:26.05 | doom0r | gg alts in bwl during progression |
| 09:26.08 | asmodai | Smelt Elementium is taught by Master Elemental Shaper Krixix (http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=14401), who is found in Blackwing Lair. |
| 09:26.12 | asmodai | Currently he does NOT teach this. If this is a bug or has been deliberately removed by the 3.2 patch is unknown at this point. |
| 09:26.19 | asmodai | (3.2 [sic]_ |
| 09:26.23 | asmodai | They removed it in preparation for the WotLK release, where it will be available to all miners (at trainer). |
| 09:26.28 | Arrowmaster | a spellid of 53417 would mean its new |
| 09:26.47 | thul | so |
| 09:26.50 | Arrowmaster | i wonder which i have |
| 09:26.52 | thul | tomorrow is it? |
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| 09:26.55 | Arrowmaster | since i never unlearned it |
| 09:26.58 | doom0r | lol, he does teach it |
| 09:27.02 | doom0r | you mc him ;x |
| 09:27.28 | Megalon | perhaps they changed it in the patch where everyone unlearned it |
| 09:27.41 | Megalon | and had to retrain it in bwl |
| 09:27.42 | Arrowmaster | people only unlearned it on beta afaik |
| 09:27.43 | Megalon | 3.0.1? |
| 09:27.48 | Megalon | oh? |
| 09:28.04 | Arrowmaster | like i said i still know it, i checked |
| 09:28.14 | Arrowmaster | and i havent entered bwl in years |
| 09:29.43 | asmodai | one cool thing of wowdb, it lists subcomponents |
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| 09:30.19 | doom0r | i don't like the bling |
| 09:30.29 | asmodai | doom0r: which? |
| 09:30.31 | doom0r | wowdb |
| 09:30.50 | asmodai | doom0r: yea, but what part in particular? |
| 09:31.09 | asmodai | I'm only looking at wowdb since arl uses it via datatools |
| 09:31.26 | asmodai | And I wonder why Ackis' his regen and mine of the recipe lists are different |
| 09:31.31 | doom0r | there's too much theme action |
| 09:31.37 | doom0r | everywhere |
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| 09:31.44 | asmodai | doom0r: graphically heavy? |
| 09:31.50 | doom0r | ya, and distracting |
| 09:32.07 | doom0r | plus the colors are not the best for reading |
| 09:32.10 | asmodai | Agreed. |
| 09:32.21 | asmodai | It's a bit heavy on the loading. |
| 09:32.49 | doom0r | don't need photoshop(or gimp) to read a database |
| 09:32.59 | doom0r | :P |
| 09:33.03 | asmodai | heh |
| 09:36.32 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r336 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix call to :Deserialize() |
| 09:36.33 | Repo | Bump minor version number. |
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| 09:45.29 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r30 Track-o-Matique.lua: |
| 09:45.30 | Repo | * Now holding off on tracking updates while channeling spells (e.g. Volley). |
| 09:45.30 | Repo | The tracking kicks in as soon as the channeled spell finishes. |
| 09:45.32 | Repo | * New option, "Ignore Druids" to prevent wasting time tracking druid shape |
| 09:45.36 | Repo | shifting. Mainly PvP oriented. |
| 09:46.17 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 042.0beta1 * r31 : Tagging as 2.0beta1 |
| 09:48.35 | Fisker- | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:48.58 | Fisker- | So what are you going to do about it? |
| 09:52.11 | doom0r | i need to spec 6 classes, one more tomorrow, and probably my paladin for leveling |
| 09:52.26 | asmodai | gah |
| 09:52.30 | asmodai | glad I am leaving this place |
| 09:52.46 | asmodai | so we have a development, test/acceptance, production setup |
| 09:52.46 | Fisker- | wat? |
| 09:53.01 | asmodai | yet the test/acceptance server shows signs of having different results at times |
| 09:53.07 | asmodai | wrong configs, modules, and so on |
| 09:53.10 | asmodai | >_< |
| 09:54.10 | asmodai | Makes deployment testing sooo much nicer. |
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| 09:55.48 | asmodai | hey cladhaire |
| 09:55.57 | cladhaire | hi |
| 10:00.37 | asmodai | So people are massively getting the PvP gear? :D |
| 10:04.46 | sacarasc | no more than usual that i've seen |
| 10:05.18 | doom0r | is it just me or does panda not play well with auctioneer? |
| 10:09.00 | cladhaire | pandas don't play well with anyone |
| 10:09.04 | cladhaire | too much leaf eating |
| 10:09.15 | dieck | too sleepy :) |
| 10:09.18 | Repo | 10talented_data: 03jerry * r167 / (13 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 10:09.19 | Repo | Changed the format of the language file so that class may be |
| 10:09.20 | Repo | optionally left of (usefull for death knight). |
| 10:09.21 | Repo | Added Deathknight information (based on an old beta, careful!). |
| 10:09.25 | Repo | Added Pet talent trees gathered from wowhead (unused by Talented, for |
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| 10:11.19 | doom0r | so.... i need somethign to spend my 126 badges on |
| 10:11.30 | cncfanatics | good morning peeps |
| 10:11.57 | dieck | doom0r: chest or legs for levelling? |
| 10:12.07 | doom0r | ya, looks like chest probably |
| 10:12.20 | doom0r | i have some crappy t4 drop legs |
| 10:12.31 | doom0r | so i guess a breastplate is in order |
| 10:13.19 | dieck | if your legs are crappy, why don't you upgrade them, but take the breast instead? |
| 10:16.03 | doom0r | epic legs vs blue chest |
| 10:16.12 | cladhaire | Antiarc: Any chance SexyMap will support GetMinimapShape()? |
| 10:16.15 | doom0r | crappy does not mean something isn't worse |
| 10:16.23 | doom0r | ;x |
| 10:17.04 | SunTsu | I normally take a look at what gives the most range of improvement |
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| 10:17.55 | doom0r | bah, i don't need sensible suggestions, i'm using compare tools for that :P |
| 10:17.58 | SunTsu | doom0r: Just look what gives the most bang for the buck |
| 10:18.06 | doom0r | i need the rash OMG BUY THAT type ones |
| 10:18.33 | SunTsu | doom0r: OMG!! BUY NOTHING!!!1! |
| 10:18.39 | SunTsu | Better? ;) |
| 10:18.44 | doom0r | ~lart SunTsu |
| 10:18.44 | purl | decapitates SunTsu conan the destroyer style |
| 10:18.54 | SunTsu | ducks |
| 10:19.04 | SunTsu | ~fail purl |
| 10:19.04 | purl | purl: FAIL! |
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| 10:25.01 | doom0r | i can get a belt and a helm |
| 10:26.25 | Slayman | ~whaleslap SunTsu |
| 10:26.26 | purl | ACTION beats SunTsu upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 10:26.37 | *** mode/#wowace [+v cladhaire] by ChanServ |
| 10:28.26 | SunTsu | Wow, amazon sent WotLK on it's way 7 hours ago and they tell me it will be delivers on 2008/11/15. I hope they are wrong |
| 10:28.36 | Kalroth | owned! |
| 10:28.41 | Zyndrome | 2009* |
| 10:28.45 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 10:29.26 | doom0r | mmm, busted out the DUF xp bar as a backdrop for FuBar hack |
| 10:36.19 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r337 spelldata.lua: Add Death knight spell data |
| 10:36.31 | asmodai | SunTsu: :( |
| 10:36.45 | Slayman | God i LOVE youtube comments |
| 10:36.53 | doom0r | lies |
| 10:36.59 | asmodai | where love is very sarcastic? |
| 10:37.12 | Slayman | ppl surf a video WATCH it and then shittalk about it and saying it was a was of time |
| 10:37.20 | Slayman | they fail |
| 10:37.33 | Slayman | ~fail youtube_commenters |
| 10:37.34 | purl | youtube_commenters: FAIL! |
| 10:37.35 | asmodai | if they even watched it |
| 10:37.56 | Slayman | well they must have clicked on it anyway |
| 10:38.06 | asmodai | SunTsu: at least your shipment has shipped. |
| 10:38.08 | Slayman | and then waste time by commenting it's a waste of time |
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| 10:38.13 | asmodai | SunTsu: mine @ bol.com is still 'in processing' |
| 10:39.01 | Slayman | asmodai: it's because amazon knows the needs of us nerds, and bol probably doesn't |
| 10:43.06 | Slayman | sb|work: 1,5h till end of work for a prolonged weekend :D hope your jealuos :D |
| 10:44.03 | Slayman | s/jealuos/jealous/ |
| 10:44.47 | asmodai | Slayman: heh |
| 10:44.57 | asmodai | Slayman: apparently they also delivered on the right day |
| 10:45.00 | Slayman | asmodai: ?? |
| 10:45.19 | asmodai | from what I read, oh well |
| 10:45.25 | asmodai | one day difference doesn't matter |
| 10:45.36 | Slayman | asmodai: lucky you!, anyways my amazon copy is just backup as I'll attend midnightselling tonight |
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| 10:46.19 | Deviad | Hi everyone |
| 10:46.24 | Slayman | hi Deviad |
| 10:46.28 | Deviad | What can I use as a replacement for Pitbull? |
| 10:46.34 | Slayman | agUF |
| 10:46.39 | Slayman | possibly |
| 10:46.59 | Slayman | try tullers Sage if you need something different |
| 10:47.07 | Deviad | But is pitbull compatible with 3.x? |
| 10:47.12 | Slayman | yes |
| 10:47.13 | asmodai | Yes. |
| 10:47.16 | Deviad | OK |
| 10:47.18 | Slayman | first^^ |
| 10:47.22 | Deviad | I don't know why it doesn't save my settings |
| 10:47.24 | cncfanatics | wy not just try instead of asking ? :p |
| 10:47.38 | Deviad | I asked because of that |
| 10:47.38 | Deviad | :P |
| 10:47.50 | cncfanatics | ah |
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| 10:49.13 | Slayman | Deviad: , delete pitbull and all modules and the saves of all download again from curse and then try to save setting |
| 10:49.14 | Slayman | s |
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| 10:52.38 | Deviad | OK |
| 10:54.40 | Deviad | Deleted the file in WTF |
| 10:57.55 | Deviad | I got my WOW TLK box |
| 10:58.08 | Deviad | Do I have to install WOW TLK or it's all in 3.0.2? |
| 10:58.22 | Deviad | The version in DVD should be older (generally it is) |
| 10:59.21 | Elkano | you'll have to install WotLK for the Northerend data and then patch back to 3.0.3 |
| 11:02.27 | Deviad | Elkano, thank you |
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| 11:06.48 | pompy | ~wowalert |
| 11:06.48 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 11:08.35 | pompy | ingame mail is more important! lol ugh |
| 11:09.37 | asmodai | hmm? |
| 11:09.46 | asmodai | Ah |
| 11:09.47 | asmodai | US realms |
| 11:09.53 | asmodai | I was about to say, EU is all ok :D |
| 11:10.19 | asmodai | is designed to correct a very recent issue where players were able to obtain certain PvP items without paying the intended price. |
| 11:10.32 | asmodai | players who obtained such items will notice them removed from their inventory |
| 11:10.33 | asmodai | haha |
| 11:10.33 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r338 / (5 files in 2 directories): Remove Options button. |
| 11:10.34 | Repo | Add a "Options ..." entry in the Actions menu. |
| 11:10.35 | Repo | Place Actions button before Templates. |
| 11:10.37 | pompy | yeah |
| 11:10.44 | pompy | the ingame mail system is all f'd up here |
| 11:11.05 | Arrowmaster | oh hey i just noticed i have wotlk |
| 11:11.05 | pompy | i had so much stuff in my mail, and all ihave is a mail from the support ppl cuz they put that in everyones mail |
| 11:11.12 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: you do? ;) |
| 11:11.13 | Arrowmaster | torrent downloaded in 1 day 8 hours |
| 11:11.18 | pompy | and they said theres an intended fix within the next couple days |
| 11:11.20 | Deviad | Did the macro system change from 2.x? |
| 11:11.33 | Deviad | I have some macros in an old wow directory |
| 11:11.34 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@219-90-227-164.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 11:11.52 | Deviad | which I backed up in case I needed some files from there just like macros |
| 11:11.53 | pompy | when wotlk relases macros/keybindings are gonna be server side |
| 11:12.03 | Arrowmaster | they already are serverside |
| 11:12.07 | Deviad | what does it mean? |
| 11:12.10 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: nice :) |
| 11:12.21 | pompy | they arent just saved on ur computer |
| 11:12.28 | Deviad | oh OK |
| 11:12.30 | pompy | like u can log into someone elses comp and use ur macros |
| 11:12.37 | Deviad | OK |
| 11:12.43 | asmodai | Please note that Blizzard intends to introduce a centralized account system for various Blizzard online games in the future (the âBattle.net Accountâ). The Battle.net Account will replace your World of Warcraft Account (the âWoW Accountâ). |
| 11:12.49 | Deviad | but are macros the same? |
| 11:13.01 | NivFreak | pompy: they already are |
| 11:13.02 | asmodai | The opening of the Battle.net Account will not incur any additional costs and will not influence your World of Warcraft play experience in any way. |
| 11:13.03 | NivFreak | in 3.0 |
| 11:13.08 | NivFreak | 3.0.2 |
| 11:13.09 | NivFreak | + |
| 11:13.23 | pompy | ight cool. |
| 11:13.46 | Deviad | for example: /target Earthbind Totem |
| 11:13.46 | Deviad | ./cast Shoot |
| 11:13.49 | Deviad | is this all the same? |
| 11:14.16 | Deviad | or: /petattack [target=Earthbind Totem] |
| 11:14.26 | pompy | yeah |
| 11:14.31 | Deviad | If it's just a copy/paste OK |
| 11:14.31 | Deviad | :D |
| 11:14.32 | Arrowmaster | that last one has never worked |
| 11:14.57 | Deviad | I have a mage if it wasn't clear :D :D :D |
| 11:15.19 | Slayman | I'm sorry to tell but it's just 1h5min till my WoWeekend starts! |
| 11:15.22 | *** join/#wowace Kalthar (n=irc@natgw.farm-refrigeration.co.uk) |
| 11:15.26 | Arrowmaster | oh god the wotlk installer is loud |
| 11:15.32 | Arrowmaster | with its background music |
| 11:15.39 | Slayman | minimize it Arrowmaster |
| 11:15.45 | Slayman | music's gone |
| 11:15.50 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 11:16.00 | NivFreak | man |
| 11:16.05 | NivFreak | I can't win a roll to save my life |
| 11:16.19 | Arrowmaster | im installing esMX for the hell of it too lol |
| 11:16.40 | Slayman | NivFreak: know that feeling, but in addition i can win a roll on an item that I absolutely have no use for at all |
| 11:17.33 | doom0r | @project TopscoreFu |
| 11:17.34 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'TopscoreFu' |
| 11:17.45 | doom0r | @project fubar-TopscoreFu |
| 11:17.46 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'fubar-TopscoreFu' |
| 11:17.57 | Slayman | @project TopScore |
| 11:17.57 | Repo | Slayman: No project found that matches 'TopScore' |
| 11:18.03 | pompy | @project fubar_topscorefu |
| 11:18.03 | Repo | pompy: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar_topscorefu/. FuBar_TopScoreFu. Game: WoW. Leader: phyber. Author: Arrowmaster. Updated: 6 days ago |
| 11:18.05 | pompy | ;p; |
| 11:18.06 | pompy | lol* |
| 11:18.40 | doom0r | needs a higher level category in the tooltip it seems |
| 11:18.54 | doom0r | get huge spacing that isn't necessary |
| 11:19.23 | phyber | :o |
| 11:19.29 | doom0r | or a scrollable tooltip frame ;x |
| 11:20.05 | Kalthar | is there a limit to the number of buffs the game reports? |
| 11:20.28 | sb|work | hmm http://www.google.org/flutrends/ - wtf :) |
| 11:20.46 | asmodai | NivFreak: same days you win almost all rolls, some you don't |
| 11:21.06 | asmodai | sb|work: pffft |
| 11:21.10 | asmodai | not interesting in my opinion |
| 11:21.22 | doom0r | my flu trend for the past 12 years has been ____________ |
| 11:21.35 | asmodai | http://www.degrotegriepmeting.nl/public/ |
| 11:21.35 | Kalthar | as lately Ive been noticing that not all the buffs on me are shown in xperl, and my bro says the same happens with the default blizzard buffs bar |
| 11:21.41 | asmodai | we've been doing this for years in the Benelux |
| 11:22.06 | asmodai | and for Europe: http://www.eiss.org/ |
| 11:22.34 | asmodai | Now, Google may be able to 'predict' it based on queries, I'd rather see the statistical migration data over years ;) |
| 11:22.52 | asmodai | people confuse flu symptoms with a lot of other illnesses |
| 11:23.06 | doom0r | like pregnancy |
| 11:23.10 | neenee | At least google presents it in a nicer way :) |
| 11:23.13 | doom0r | (pun intended) |
| 11:23.20 | asmodai | doom0r: yea! |
| 11:23.39 | asmodai | got to love: |
| 11:23.45 | asmodai | Influenza (the flu) is a serious contagious respiratory illness caused by influenza viruses. |
| 11:23.58 | asmodai | Serious contagious or a serious illness? |
| 11:24.08 | asmodai | Since 'serious' is quite relative with common flu nowadays. |
| 11:24.14 | Kalthar | @project Fubar - GroupFu |
| 11:24.14 | Repo | Kalthar: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar/. FuBar 3.5. Game: WoW. Leader: ckknight. Updated: 6 days ago. Tickets: 9/9 |
| 11:24.46 | Kalthar | @project GroupFu |
| 11:24.46 | Repo | Kalthar: No project found that matches 'GroupFu' |
| 11:25.01 | Zhinjio | @project group-fu |
| 11:25.02 | Repo | Zhinjio: No project found that matches 'group-fu' |
| 11:25.05 | Zhinjio | bah |
| 11:25.06 | Arrowmaster | @project fubar_groupfu |
| 11:25.06 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fubar_groupfu/. FuBar - GroupFu. Game: WoW. Leader: Rabbit. Updated: 28 days ago |
| 11:25.15 | Zhinjio | Repo needs a pattern matcher |
| 11:25.26 | Arrowmaster | its not a search |
| 11:25.46 | Kalthar | i was just going by how its written on curse.com :) |
| 11:25.59 | Arrowmaster | go by the url |
| 11:26.56 | Kalthar | ok, and cheers :) |
| 11:27.40 | sb|work | meh, giev wotlk eu client download |
| 11:27.57 | Arrowmaster | been a torrent up for days |
| 11:28.02 | sb|work | i know |
| 11:28.06 | sb|work | i already have that one |
| 11:28.18 | Arrowmaster | whats wrong with it? |
| 11:28.18 | cncfanatics | anyone got shadows working on wine ? |
| 11:28.21 | cncfanatics | I want pwetty shadows :p |
| 11:28.26 | Kalthar | < slacker hasn't bought wrath yet -.- |
| 11:28.41 | Deviad | i'm gonna enjoy wowtlk :P |
| 11:28.46 | sb|work | Arrowmaster: dont know, want some 'official' release ;) but i think i will install that torrent one later today on my notebook |
| 11:29.07 | Kalthar | play.com fails, me wants the CE! |
| 11:29.36 | Arrowmaster | the us one wasnt digitally signed i wonder if the dvds are |
| 11:29.45 | Kalthar | but not off their ebay wannabe site for £100 |
| 11:30.04 | Zhinjio | if any has an extra CE they're willing to sell me, my mother-in-law didn't get hers in time. I'll obviously trade down to a normal version, and pay the difference (and some reasonable finders fee) |
| 11:30.46 | *** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=EthanCen@78.149.158.148) |
| 11:31.10 | EthanCentaurai | gives up on his iMac and sends the fucking piece of crap back to Apple |
| 11:31.16 | Kalthar | hehe |
| 11:31.19 | doom0r | lol |
| 11:31.24 | doom0r | you bought a damn box |
| 11:31.28 | doom0r | wtf you expect? |
| 11:31.42 | EthanCentaurai | ~lart doom0r |
| 11:31.42 | purl | takes out doom0r with the trash |
| 11:31.47 | EthanCentaurai | I'm not in the mood |
| 11:31.59 | doom0r | i wouldn't be either! |
| 11:32.10 | doom0r | can't resist |
| 11:32.31 | Deviad | Just put in the DVD |
| 11:32.33 | Deviad | I'm so excited |
| 11:32.34 | Deviad | :D :D :D |
| 11:32.37 | Deviad | I haven't played beta |
| 11:32.42 | cncfanatics | :p |
| 11:33.06 | EthanCentaurai | see you in 3 hours after it installs :) |
| 11:33.27 | Arrowmaster | it installed really fast for me |
| 11:33.40 | doom0r | intall is very short |
| 11:33.45 | Arrowmaster | already done |
| 11:34.00 | EthanCentaurai | wtf it took 3 hours for me :/ |
| 11:34.07 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 11:34.10 | Slayman | you need to patch again after install. it's 3.0.1 again after install |
| 11:34.13 | Kalthar | is it a case of install, redownload whatever patches to 3.0.3 ? |
| 11:34.15 | doom0r | did you use a torrent fromt he same drive? |
| 11:34.17 | Kalthar | ah |
| 11:34.20 | Kalthar | :p |
| 11:34.20 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 11:34.39 | KriLL3 | where in PB is the option to hide you from the party frame? |
| 11:34.41 | Deviad | See you later |
| 11:34.45 | Deviad | (in a while I hope) |
| 11:34.46 | Kalthar | you'd think by now blizzard would have a better patching system |
| 11:35.26 | *** join/#wowace harl (i=harl@dslb-088-077-183-136.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:36.30 | Kalthar | where you install the expansion just for the content in <name_of_expansion>.mpq, without it overwritting/deleting the changes in patch*.mpq |
| 11:36.45 | Arrowmaster | cant |
| 11:37.26 | Arrowmaster | the patches might have actually changed stuff in the expansion mpq but just didnt do anything since it wasnt found |
| 11:38.26 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r153 / (2 files in 2 directories): ArkInventory: |
| 11:38.27 | Repo | - rearranging externals |
| 11:41.26 | pompy | im backin up my interface folder jus to be a lil safe, should do the same thing with WTF , or no? |
| 11:41.33 | Arrowmaster | so the hits i got in safepeer while running the wotlk NA torrent are perty funny |
| 11:41.53 | Arrowmaster | 'DoD Network Information Center' |
| 11:41.54 | Kalthar | fair point, but the way things are organised does give the impression that the patches just write into archives that have higher priority than the base content, which gets loaded instead of :) |
| 11:42.11 | Arrowmaster | 'Apple Computer, Inc' |
| 11:42.25 | Arrowmaster | 'Hewlett-Packard Company' |
| 11:42.42 | Arrowmaster | 'General Electric Company' |
| 11:43.00 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: heh |
| 11:43.12 | Arrowmaster | 'National Aeronautic and Space Administration' |
| 11:43.22 | doom0r | [SERVER] This realm will be coming down for a scheduled maintenance. For more information, please visit our Realm Status Forums. Thank you. |
| 11:43.25 | Arrowmaster | 'Cisco Systems, Inc' |
| 11:43.38 | Arrowmaster | 'IBM' |
| 11:43.44 | Kalthar | they play wow in space ;p |
| 11:43.56 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro * r154 / (27 files in 6 directories): ArkInventory: |
| 11:43.57 | Repo | - 3.02.05 |
| 11:43.58 | Arrowmaster | 'PURCHASING OFFICE US NAVIL AIR FACILITY' |
| 11:44.09 | doom0r | i turn safepeer off for verifyiable thigns like that |
| 11:44.19 | Arrowmaster | 'Nvidia' |
| 11:44.30 | Arrowmaster | this wasnt an official torrent |
| 11:44.31 | Zhinjio | feh |
| 11:44.38 | Zhinjio | no such thing as bottomscanner anymore? |
| 11:44.46 | Zhinjio | in auctioneer |
| 11:44.50 | doom0r | Zhinjio: yes there is |
| 11:44.53 | doom0r | two options |
| 11:44.58 | Arrowmaster | 'Golden Lines|Anti-p2p' showed up a lot |
| 11:45.02 | doom0r | scan an image and use the searchui |
| 11:45.07 | doom0r | or use the realtime search |
| 11:45.18 | doom0r | look at the magnifying glass on top fo the frame, middle |
| 11:45.20 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: PeerGuardian log? |
| 11:45.23 | *** join/#wowace Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 11:45.25 | Arrowmaster | safepeer |
| 11:45.28 | Torhal | Ah |
| 11:45.42 | Zhinjio | 9oooohhh |
| 11:45.44 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 11:45.46 | Zhinjio | thanks |
| 11:45.48 | Kalthar | @project QuestHelper |
| 11:45.48 | Repo | Kalthar: No project found that matches 'QuestHelper' |
| 11:45.56 | cncfanatics | mmm, I'm having some weird graphical corruptions in WoW in d3d mode |
| 11:45.57 | Arrowmaster | @project quest-helper |
| 11:45.57 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/quest-helper/. QuestHelper. Game: WoW. Leader: smariot. Authors: vipersniper, nesher, ZorbaTHut. Updated: 41 hours ago. Tickets: 62/266 |
| 11:46.19 | Kalthar | i'll get used to this... :D |
| 11:46.45 | many | so wheres my wotlk-eu.iso? |
| 11:46.49 | Slayman | 35mins to weekend, and closing |
| 11:46.55 | *** join/#wowace Deviad (n=spotted@81-208-83-249.fastres.net) |
| 11:46.58 | Deviad | Ciao |
| 11:47.11 | Deviad | I have disabled MacDrive, now I'm installing WOWTLK |
| 11:47.17 | Deviad | Let's see how long it takes with my supahcomputer |
| 11:47.18 | Deviad | :D |
| 11:47.30 | Deviad | Pretty fast indeed |
| 11:47.33 | Deviad | 8% already |
| 11:47.41 | Kalthar | i'd use it if there was an option to turn off the highhlight glow on mouseover :) |
| 11:48.03 | Slayman | Deviad: didn't know they handed WOTLK out in punchcards |
| 11:48.16 | Arrowmaster | the patch afterwards is actually taking a while |
| 11:48.22 | asmodai | MacDrive? Is that like a desktop application to preorder @ MacDonald's drive through? |
| 11:48.29 | Deviad | Slayman, :D |
| 11:48.30 | Slayman | Arrowmaster: if you deleted the former download |
| 11:48.32 | asmodai | Oh wait, McDonald's... |
| 11:48.38 | Arrowmaster | there was no former download |
| 11:48.45 | KriLL3 | it's the European version of the drive through I think |
| 11:48.48 | Deviad | asmodai, besides my desktop I have a Macbook Pro |
| 11:49.00 | Deviad | so I need something to read Apple file system |
| 11:49.02 | Slayman | Arrowmaster: you had not had your client up 2 date? |
| 11:49.12 | Deviad | Macbook can read and write on HFS and HFS+ |
| 11:49.13 | Deviad | :D |
| 11:49.14 | Arrowmaster | the 3.0 patch included both 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 in it |
| 11:49.17 | Deviad | MacDrive* |
| 11:49.35 | Slayman | Arrowmaster not following |
| 11:49.53 | Arrowmaster | the 3.0.1-3.0.2 patch was not a seperate patch |
| 11:50.04 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.04 | Kalthar | if it takes you to 3.0.1, can you use the patch sequence we downloaded previously (3.0.1 to 3.0.2 to 3.0.3)? |
| 11:50.05 | Slayman | it was for me |
| 11:50.10 | Repo | 10ark-inventory: 03Arkayenro 043.02.05 * r155 : Tagging as 3.02.05 |
| 11:50.21 | Arrowmaster | we never downloaded a 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 |
| 11:50.41 | Slayman | no we downloaded a 2.4.3 or sth to 3.0.2 |
| 11:51.04 | Arrowmaster | which did both 2.4.3 to 3.0.1 and 3.0.1 to 3.0.2 at once |
| 11:51.07 | Kalthar | granted its all the Installer Tome 1/2 mess that the predownloader likes |
| 11:51.32 | Arrowmaster | well not really at once |
| 11:51.38 | Arrowmaster | but right after each other automaticly |
| 11:52.03 | Slayman | in multiple parts, one of those parts, was either the right one for the dvd patch or blizzard actually provided enough for my 100MBit internet line to me not noticing |
| 11:52.51 | Kalthar | yeah they're not technically seperate patches but each step does have its own BNUpdate.exe |
| 11:52.59 | *** join/#wowace jaxdahl (n=foobar@cpe-70-123-154-253.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 11:53.15 | Slayman | ~pimpslap Slayman |
| 11:53.16 | purl | slayman pimpslaps Slayman. ouch! |
| 11:53.25 | Slayman | ~bitchslap Slayman |
| 11:53.26 | purl | ACTION beats the sh*t out of Slayman |
| 11:53.38 | Slayman | well at least he knows stuff |
| 11:53.47 | Arrowmaster | i still dont understand why we cant copy out of the patch notes during the updater |
| 11:54.02 | Slayman | ~botsnack |
| 11:54.02 | purl | :), Slayman |
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| 11:54.49 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r21 Core.lua: Procs: |
| 11:54.50 | Repo | - Added Firestarter for Mages |
| 11:54.50 | Repo | Proc Messages: |
| 11:54.52 | Repo | - Made it possible to disable the chat frame message. |
| 11:54.58 | Arrowmaster | im down to 1.76 gigs of free space when i started with 15 gigs |
| 11:55.07 | Arrowmaster | but that was before i downloaded the wotlk torrent |
| 11:55.25 | jaxdahl | there is an updater for wotlk? |
| 11:55.33 | Daemona | yup |
| 11:55.33 | many | i still understand why they update files without actually updating them |
| 11:55.34 | doom0r | i have a 320gig drive with nothing on it but wow |
| 11:55.36 | *** join/#wowace orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:55.41 | doom0r | just so it's on a separate disk |
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| 11:56.15 | many | they could just release a slim wotlk-installer instead of overlaying the same data files over and over again |
| 11:56.17 | Slayman | i have an external 500gig drive with WoW and other shit just so i can play it on the laptop too |
| 11:56.40 | Arrowmaster | usb external? |
| 11:56.45 | Slayman | lol no |
| 11:56.47 | Slayman | eSata |
| 11:56.53 | doom0r | i decided to start a drive just for games so no seek times interrupted by other stuff |
| 11:56.54 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 11:56.55 | p4aved1 | ~wowalert |
| 11:56.56 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 11:56.59 | Kalthar | theres WoW-2.4.3-to-3.0.1-TBC-EU-Update and a WoW-3.0.1-to-3.0.2-Update from the predownloader, and the more recent 'normal' patch exe to 3.0.3 |
| 11:57.03 | Slayman | usb wouldn#t be playable |
| 11:57.22 | doom0r | Slayman: it is |
| 11:57.32 | Arrowmaster | atleast with usb 3.0 we finally get full duplex |
| 11:57.44 | Slayman | and 5gig on paper |
| 11:57.46 | *** join/#wowace Swix (n=raptor@77.222.122.187) |
| 11:58.00 | jaxdahl | Arrowmaster, halleujah |
| 11:58.07 | jaxdahl | i've done usb programming in the past |
| 11:58.13 | p4aved1 | anybody able to tell me wen EU maintenance starts? |
| 11:58.24 | Slayman | but even 480mbit on paper does not convince those dudes to actually go that fast with their thumbdrives |
| 11:58.32 | asmodai | p4aved1: it's been done? |
| 11:58.46 | Daemona | eu maintenance is over |
| 11:58.46 | Deviad | After installing wowtlk it started the patcher from 3.0.1 |
| 11:58.48 | Daemona | for 2 hours |
| 11:58.48 | Deviad | to 3.0.2 |
| 11:58.49 | asmodai | p4aved1: 05:00 - 11:00 -- so ended approximately 2 hours ago |
| 11:58.50 | p4aved1 | shows my ignorance of time zones |
| 11:58.52 | *** join/#wowace selckin1 (n=selckin@78-22-103-178.access.telenet.be) |
| 11:58.53 | Deviad | but I had already downloaded it |
| 11:58.58 | doom0r | time to sleep tilt he afternoon/evening and get up for wrath |
| 11:58.59 | Deviad | so I'm using the patch I had already downloaded |
| 11:59.00 | Deviad | is it right? |
| 11:59.08 | p4aved1 | asmodai: no issues like US realms? |
| 11:59.12 | Kalthar | so can you use the 3.0.1-to-3.0.2 and onwards patches after installing wrath :) |
| 11:59.15 | asmodai | p4aved1: none that I heard of :) |
| 11:59.22 | asmodai | Then again, we QQ less. :P |
| 11:59.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont know, for me it started a downloaded and it was like 380mb but it finished in a few seconds |
| 11:59.56 | jaxdahl | anyone know what this is? http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe |
| 12:00.03 | Deviad | I just received Cosmos S |
| 12:00.21 | Arrowmaster | jaxdahl: wotlk installer |
| 12:00.25 | Arrowmaster | and downloader |
| 12:00.28 | asmodai | jaxdahl: a keylogger ? XD |
| 12:00.30 | Deviad | from Cooler Master |
| 12:00.37 | Deviad | and now I'm waiting for q9550 and 2032BW |
| 12:00.37 | Deviad | :D |
| 12:00.37 | chexsum | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.42 | jaxdahl | Arrowmaster, does it work? |
| 12:00.44 | asmodai | chexsum: EU? |
| 12:00.47 | chexsum | we made it with 15s to spare |
| 12:00.49 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 12:00.51 | chexsum | us |
| 12:00.53 | asmodai | ah |
| 12:00.55 | Arrowmaster | it worked for people the other day |
| 12:01.03 | Arrowmaster | but then they removed a file it needed |
| 12:01.08 | Deviad | I'm sure wow fps will still be still around 40 - 50 inside the cities |
| 12:01.09 | Deviad | :D :D :D |
| 12:01.16 | Deviad | will still be around* |
| 12:01.17 | jaxdahl | 'failed to read information from the internet. please close all applications and try again' |
| 12:01.23 | Kalthar | sounds like a heroic bot run i did not long ago, chexsum :) |
| 12:01.37 | *** join/#wowace Gaurong (n=chatzill@88-104-59-16.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 12:01.38 | Deviad | how do you reach the new area? |
| 12:01.47 | jaxdahl | new area? you mean northrend? |
| 12:01.48 | *** join/#wowace tuikku (n=tuikku@a42b.keihas.tontut.fi) |
| 12:01.50 | Deviad | yes |
| 12:01.52 | jaxdahl | are you alliance or horde |
| 12:01.55 | Deviad | horde |
| 12:01.56 | Deviad | :P |
| 12:02.07 | Pneumatus | zepps from org and uc |
| 12:02.07 | jaxdahl | zep towers outside orgrimmar and undercity |
| 12:02.10 | Kalthar | zepplins from org and uc |
| 12:02.20 | jaxdahl | i win |
| 12:02.22 | Kalthar | hehe |
| 12:02.25 | asmodai | I guess you didn't notice the newly built towers before? :P |
| 12:02.33 | selckin1 | does ogrimmar go to tundra? |
| 12:02.45 | Kalthar | howling i think |
| 12:02.50 | Deviad | asmodai, yeah I did but it was very late yesterday night |
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| 12:02.56 | jaxdahl | org->warsong hold |
| 12:02.57 | Deviad | and I was trying to fix the interface all again |
| 12:02.57 | Deviad | :P |
| 12:02.57 | selckin1 | they trying to split up horde/allience then |
| 12:02.59 | selckin1 | nice |
| 12:02.59 | jaxdahl | in borean tundra |
| 12:03.01 | Pneumatus | org goes to BT, undercity goes to HF |
| 12:03.02 | jaxdahl | no selckin1 |
| 12:03.10 | asmodai | # Take the Undercity zeppelin tower to Howling Fjord |
| 12:03.11 | asmodai | # Take the Orgrimmar zeppelin tower to Borean Tundra |
| 12:03.11 | many | woohoo |
| 12:03.15 | asmodai | # Take the Menethil Harbor warship to Howling Fjord |
| 12:03.16 | asmodai | # Take the Stormwind Harbor steamship to Borean Tundra |
| 12:03.20 | chexsum | how long tuntil wotlk is activated ? |
| 12:03.23 | selckin1 | everyone in tundra then |
| 12:03.29 | jaxdahl | no selckin1 |
| 12:03.33 | jaxdahl | two starting zones |
| 12:03.35 | Deviad | I'm on Kazzak |
| 12:03.42 | Deviad | which server are you playin in? |
| 12:03.44 | selckin1 | but logical and easy route is to tundra |
| 12:03.47 | jaxdahl | HF/BT are for level 68 to ~71 |
| 12:03.49 | selckin1 | most claim its the best zone |
| 12:03.51 | chexsum | i want server first on a dk kill! |
| 12:03.51 | asmodai | smart move, will at least split the lag between two zones |
| 12:03.52 | selckin1 | everyone will be there. |
| 12:03.59 | Kalthar | think his point was that most people will be using the org tower ;p |
| 12:03.59 | odt | which instances should i take with my group? |
| 12:04.18 | odt | utgarde til lvl75? |
| 12:04.25 | jaxdahl | i think most people will end up in BT at first |
| 12:04.33 | jaxdahl | since everyone will take the org tower and stormwind boat |
| 12:04.36 | chexsum | just go for green mobs |
| 12:04.39 | selckin1 | thats what i said |
| 12:04.40 | chexsum | the xp is the same |
| 12:04.42 | selckin1 | lol :\ |
| 12:04.48 | sb|work | mh |
| 12:04.51 | Deviad | I'm done |
| 12:04.54 | sb|work | HF for me, UC tower |
| 12:04.55 | Deviad | it took like 20 minutes |
| 12:04.55 | asmodai | jaxdahl: SW harbour makes more sense, I mean, who visits Menethil nowadays? o_O |
| 12:04.56 | Deviad | for everything |
| 12:04.57 | Deviad | :P |
| 12:04.59 | Deviad | not 3 hours |
| 12:04.59 | Deviad | :D |
| 12:05.02 | odt | looks like items are not worth replacing before lvl78 anyway |
| 12:05.04 | asmodai | Especially after the SW <> Auberdine link up |
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| 12:05.09 | Kalthar | maybe its part of blizz's plan |
| 12:05.19 | jaxdahl | 18 more hours to go! (central US) |
| 12:05.24 | sb|work | haha :) |
| 12:05.36 | Arrowmaster | my wow folder is now 14.1 gigs from a 7.7 gig installer |
| 12:05.39 | sb|work | 11 hours! |
| 12:05.47 | Kalthar | since wrath + ice + arthas + main towers go to the cold zone :p |
| 12:05.51 | Arrowmaster | oh wait |
| 12:06.13 | Kalthar | or main routes to northrend rather |
| 12:06.16 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if wotlk included burning crusade stuff in the installer? |
| 12:06.21 | jaxdahl | are beta realms still up? |
| 12:06.23 | Slayman | sb|work: 15min to weekend buddy |
| 12:06.33 | sb|work | Slayman: meh... 3h Ö- |
| 12:06.35 | sb|work | :/ |
| 12:06.50 | chexsum | i just got friday off - woot |
| 12:06.59 | Slayman | jaxdahl: not for over 1 week as far as i know |
| 12:07.06 | sb|work | mh, thu + fri + next week for me ;) |
| 12:07.10 | chexsum | mon/tues/wed are annual leave days also |
| 12:07.11 | Slayman | chexsum: GZ |
| 12:07.21 | sb|work | chexsum: huh? wtf |
| 12:07.23 | sb|work | 3 days? |
| 12:07.25 | sb|work | whats that? |
| 12:07.29 | chexsum | my poor boss is working 12 hours for me to play wow |
| 12:07.41 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 12:07.51 | jaxdahl | beta client still auths me, installing 9136 |
| 12:07.56 | jaxdahl | 9138 i mean |
| 12:07.58 | chexsum | i could have said 2 weeks leave but its busy season for us alcohol providers |
| 12:08.49 | Deviad | Just watched the movie at the beginning |
| 12:08.51 | Deviad | so cool |
| 12:08.51 | Deviad | :D |
| 12:09.24 | many | is US installwow.exe compatible with EU Realms? |
| 12:09.30 | Slayman | Deviad: not so cool if you have playing as infinite loop at the games convention |
| 12:09.31 | jaxdahl | i don't think so |
| 12:09.31 | Stanzilla | no :( |
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| 12:11.11 | chexsum | 3 hours just becase some people gained 200 mana and 300 health |
| 12:11.18 | chexsum | wtf blizzard |
| 12:11.21 | Deviad | many, I guess it is, you should change just a file |
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| 12:11.25 | Deviad | with the ip address of the server |
| 12:11.28 | Deviad | you are connecting to |
| 12:11.35 | Deviad | so in theory that should be possible |
| 12:11.36 | pompy | yeah, i want my shit from the mailbox back! |
| 12:11.42 | jaxdahl | Deviad, localization is diff |
| 12:11.52 | jaxdahl | among a few things |
| 12:12.15 | Stanzilla | Deviad: that does not work anymore |
| 12:12.43 | many | ohwell |
| 12:12.45 | many | even if |
| 12:13.01 | many | it probably means the files loaded from the server might not be there anyway |
| 12:15.21 | Deviad | can't upgrade my account yet |
| 12:15.24 | Deviad | I guess it's normal |
| 12:15.53 | Deviad | OK 11 hours left |
| 12:15.53 | Deviad | :D |
| 12:16.08 | jaxdahl | i guess beta realms are down.. did they ever have an end-of-beta event? |
| 12:16.15 | KriLL3 | jaxdahl: nope |
| 12:16.48 | KriLL3 | without pomp or fanfare, without warning or notice, all of a sudden they were all down |
| 12:17.26 | quiescens | splat |
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| 12:19.22 | Slayman | bye guys |
| 12:19.28 | KriLL3 | bye |
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| 12:27.01 | cladhaire | ~wowalert |
| 12:27.01 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
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| 12:29.08 | cncfanatics | anyone able to tell me what checks WoW does to ensure your system supports shadows ? |
| 12:29.45 | Stanzilla | directx maybe? |
| 12:29.48 | cncfanatics | nop |
| 12:29.49 | cncfanatics | I tried |
| 12:30.02 | cncfanatics | both in d3d or opengl mode it refuses to let me enable shadows on wine |
| 12:30.06 | cncfanatics | so it must be doing some kind of checks |
| 12:30.29 | many | dx ver |
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| 12:30.54 | many | shadows is probably something supported from 9 or 10 while wine probably supports 7 only, or so |
| 12:31.01 | cncfanatics | I got a dx9 installed |
| 12:31.05 | cncfanatics | and the dll's set to native |
| 12:31.10 | cncfanatics | so it should detect dx9 |
| 12:31.45 | cncfanatics | so thats most probably not the issue either |
| 12:31.53 | cncfanatics | I'm guessign its checking for some extensions, but I have no clue what ones |
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| 12:36.11 | many | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6715761602&sid=1 |
| 12:36.12 | many | DUH! |
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| 12:37.29 | chead | cncfanatics: "The game client automatically prevents the slider from being moved if your video card can't support the shadow goodness our game is providing" :O) |
| 12:38.23 | selckin1 | gonna take so long to install :\ |
| 12:38.36 | cncfanatics | chead: I know that, but that doesn't tell me how I can get it to let me slide it |
| 12:38.40 | cncfanatics | I know my gfx card supports it :p |
| 12:39.32 | selckin1 | you're not in opengl with wine? |
| 12:39.58 | cncfanatics | I am |
| 12:40.05 | Hell-Razor | anybody here play a dk on the beta? |
| 12:40.12 | selckin1 | then its irrelevent have dx9 installed |
| 12:40.12 | Hell-Razor | im looking for advice on what spec to go for mine |
| 12:40.18 | cncfanatics | same thing happens in direct3d with wine though (with dx9 distributable installe)d |
| 12:40.28 | cncfanatics | no its not if I try in d3d mode |
| 12:40.47 | chead | I think those shadows require that you run in directx? |
| 12:41.09 | cncfanatics | "(01:40:12 PM) cncfanatics: same thing happens in direct3d with wine though (with dx9 distributable installe)d" |
| 12:41.16 | cncfanatics | its not only that it seems |
| 12:42.07 | chead | well I dont know wine very well |
| 12:42.27 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, use cedega |
| 12:42.56 | many | haha |
| 12:43.02 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, and whats your problem btw? |
| 12:43.06 | sacarasc | and pay for 2 things monthly to play wow ;p |
| 12:43.08 | many | use crossover !!!111 |
| 12:43.13 | cncfanatics | getting shadows to work, Hell-Razor |
| 12:43.27 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, mine work just fine...in cedega =) |
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| 12:43.32 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, what distro are you using |
| 12:43.39 | cncfanatics | archlinux |
| 12:43.44 | many | uhu |
| 12:43.48 | Hell-Razor | that may be why |
| 12:43.52 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, gentoo ftw |
| 12:43.54 | many | LOL |
| 12:43.59 | cncfanatics | no its not |
| 12:44.09 | many | Hell-Razor: tis funny. |
| 12:44.21 | many | probably not for cnc, but i find it funny anyway. |
| 12:44.35 | Hell-Razor | and WHY are you asking about wine in a wowace channel? try the ##wine or #cedega chan....but ill still try and help you |
| 12:44.37 | Hell-Razor | many, how so |
| 12:44.45 | harl | omg |
| 12:44.57 | cncfanatics | many: I find it semi-funny myself ;) |
| 12:45.09 | Hell-Razor | <3 gentoo |
| 12:45.39 | sacarasc | * Hell-Razor <3 fail |
| 12:45.41 | sacarasc | fixed |
| 12:45.57 | Hell-Razor | sacarasc, lol why dont you like gentoo...same with many |
| 12:46.11 | cncfanatics | btw Hell-Razor, I asked here instead of ##wine because there are more people in this chan then in ##wine who are running wow on linux |
| 12:46.20 | sacarasc | i don't like package managers at all, and gentoo is all about theirs |
| 12:46.46 | sacarasc | and then there was the raping of xmms gentoo did |
| 12:46.56 | Hell-Razor | i hated xmms |
| 12:46.59 | Hell-Razor | rhythmbox is my choice |
| 12:47.18 | sacarasc | gentoo adds patches with bugs and blames xmms for the bugs |
| 12:47.25 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, alright what happens when you try it in d3d instead of ogl? |
| 12:47.27 | sacarasc | gg gentoo |
| 12:47.36 | Hell-Razor | sacarasc, examples? |
| 12:47.36 | cncfanatics | Hell-Razor: it still doesn't let me move the shadows slider: p |
| 12:47.54 | sacarasc | i'd have to dig out logs for that, unless you wanna read them all? |
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| 12:48.13 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, do you have um.,.. lemme look its an option enable |
| 12:48.37 | Hell-Razor | sacarasc, i should have said that differently i didnt mean to seem like a dick...how about like this => i didnt know that may i see where you see this information at |
| 12:48.38 | harl | -.-' |
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| 12:49.07 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, pixel and vertex shaders |
| 12:49.20 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, and what vid card |
| 12:49.54 | cncfanatics | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400M GS (rev a1) |
| 12:50.05 | Hell-Razor | alright |
| 12:50.09 | cncfanatics | about the shaders |
| 12:50.12 | Hell-Razor | that does support it iirc |
| 12:50.13 | cncfanatics | they're buggy in d3d mode |
| 12:50.15 | cncfanatics | so it might be that |
| 12:50.15 | Hell-Razor | it should |
| 12:50.19 | cncfanatics | and yea it supports it on windows :p |
| 12:50.37 | cncfanatics | lemme try a few more things |
| 12:50.39 | cncfanatics | you gave me an idea |
| 12:50.44 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, im pretty sure but look for other sources on this to help back it up BUT i think one of the shaders gets disabled in ogl |
| 12:50.52 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, i would check now but my wow serv is down |
| 12:51.09 | cncfanatics | Hell-Razor: mac osx gets shadows |
| 12:51.14 | cncfanatics | and it uses ogl as well |
| 12:51.20 | Hell-Razor | ah alright |
| 12:51.24 | Hell-Razor | then nevermind i lied =P |
| 12:51.30 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, what arguements do you pass for ogl |
| 12:51.31 | harl | rofl |
| 12:51.35 | harl | flash news |
| 12:51.43 | cncfanatics | Hell-Razor: what you mean ? |
| 12:51.55 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, how do you turn your wow from d3d into ogl... |
| 12:52.02 | cncfanatics | in config.wtf |
| 12:52.06 | cncfanatics | SET gxApi "opengl" |
| 12:52.45 | Hell-Razor | SET gxColorBits "24" 'SET gxDepthBits "24" |
| 12:52.49 | Hell-Razor | try adding those in |
| 12:52.58 | Hell-Razor | err i accidentally hit ' before the second SET |
| 12:53.05 | Hell-Razor | and those are two lines |
| 12:53.20 | cncfanatics | they're already there |
| 12:53.25 | Hell-Razor | ok |
| 12:53.30 | cncfanatics | btw, I just retested this |
| 12:53.35 | cncfanatics | pixel shaders & vertex shaders are buggy |
| 12:53.48 | Hell-Razor | oh yeah they are |
| 12:53.51 | cncfanatics | winecfg -> graphics tab -> direct3d |
| 12:53.52 | Hell-Razor | and im using 3.0 ones |
| 12:54.20 | cncfanatics | when running in d3d, if pixel shaders or vertex shaders are enabled there it crashes (if vertex shaders) or has glitches (pixel shaders) |
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| 12:54.30 | Hell-Razor | Fast Writes: Not Supported...ug wtf |
| 12:54.35 | Hell-Razor | oh yeah its disabled in my bios |
| 12:56.03 | cncfanatics | meh, guess I'll give up for now |
| 12:56.35 | Hell-Razor | lol sorry man |
| 12:56.49 | Hell-Razor | im trying to figure out how to enable fast writes on my card quick |
| 12:56.54 | Hell-Razor | what do i have to add to modules.conf |
| 12:56.55 | Hell-Razor | hrmm |
| 12:58.34 | Hell-Razor | brb |
| 12:58.52 | quiescens | fast writes is rarely a |
| 12:58.59 | quiescens | worthwhile endeavour? |
| 12:59.03 | quiescens | lol |
| 12:59.12 | cncfanatics | guess he restarted X without closing his irc clien |
| 13:00.16 | quiescens | bandwidth between the rest of the system and the video card is typically a minute amount of overall sustained fps |
| 13:01.25 | cncfanatics | depends on what you're doing with the card |
| 13:01.28 | cncfanatics | but, most of the time, yea |
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| 13:02.02 | Hell-Razor | hrm fastwrites still disabled |
| 13:02.14 | quiescens | not worth the effort |
| 13:02.45 | quiescens | even agp 1x was a theoretical 266mb/sec |
| 13:02.54 | Hell-Razor | im at 8x |
| 13:03.03 | cncfanatics | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.20 | cncfanatics | did you add that to your xorg.conf in the device section ? |
| 13:03.21 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status |
| 13:03.48 | cncfanatics | no such file :D proc filesystem is disabled here |
| 13:03.57 | Hell-Razor | ah |
| 13:04.02 | Hell-Razor | interestingggg |
| 13:04.07 | Hell-Razor | Driver: AGPGART |
| 13:04.11 | Hell-Razor | in my status |
| 13:04.14 | cncfanatics | let me enable it |
| 13:04.39 | cncfanatics | there is no folder agp in the nvidia folder for me |
| 13:04.53 | Hell-Razor | ah |
| 13:05.06 | Hell-Razor | and cncfanatics my xorg.conf file is extremely ghetto rigged |
| 13:05.36 | chexsum | just got fedora 9 today ill get back to linux soon |
| 13:05.58 | Hell-Razor | ive never been a fan of fedora |
| 13:06.12 | cncfanatics | I'm not into systems that do stuff for you |
| 13:06.16 | cncfanatics | which is why I love arch : |
| 13:06.22 | cncfanatics | their packager only takes care of extracting files |
| 13:06.24 | chexsum | meh |
| 13:06.36 | Kalthar | arch is pro :) |
| 13:06.36 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, what about dependencies? |
| 13:06.43 | cncfanatics | with dependencies ofc |
| 13:06.52 | cncfanatics | but it leaves all the configuration to you |
| 13:06.53 | Hell-Razor | ofc? |
| 13:07.55 | Kalthar | and if you dont like a prebuilt package its easy to customise your own |
| 13:08.09 | chexsum | what is arch |
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| 13:08.40 | cncfanatics | chexsum: #archlinux or www.archlinux.org |
| 13:08.41 | chexsum | ~arch |
| 13:08.42 | purl | Object-oriented library of tools for MP machine and networkprogramming. URL: http://lagaffe.cpe.fr/~arch/, or version control software aiming to be better than cvs; at http://wiki.gnuarch.org/ |
| 13:09.15 | cncfanatics | chexsum: the fact i didn't do that myself shld have told you its not there :p |
| 13:11.16 | Hell-Razor | http://rafb.net/p/2AspPG78.html |
| 13:11.18 | Hell-Razor | runs and hides |
| 13:11.35 | Kalthar | check the timestamps, hei said that 1 sec after your line cnc :) |
| 13:12.19 | Kalthar | he* |
| 13:12.38 | cncfanatics | oh |
| 13:13.01 | cncfanatics | Hell-Razor: eeek |
| 13:13.03 | cncfanatics | write one by hand |
| 13:13.04 | cncfanatics | srsly |
| 13:13.30 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, want to help? =) |
| 13:13.37 | Kalthar | but yeah, i love the arch way :) |
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| 13:14.09 | cncfanatics | Hell-Razor: no |
| 13:14.30 | many | arch in the mainstream sense either means archlinux or gnuarch (VCS just like SVN) |
| 13:15.14 | many | maybe i could take a look wether archlinux got a nicey pkg management in the meantime |
| 13:16.14 | cncfanatics | many: you shld read the design goals of arch |
| 13:17.15 | Hell-Razor | sacarasc, are you still digging? |
| 13:18.10 | Kalthar | dont always see eye to eye with various dependencies but in those cases i just roll my own package accordingly, <3 ABS |
| 13:18.31 | Kalthar | (the arch build system) |
| 13:18.45 | break19 | "<cncfanatics> I'm not into systems that do stuff for you " <- sounds like you should use gentoo then. |
| 13:19.10 | cncfanatics | break19: I'm not into looking at compile screens for a whole weekend either |
| 13:19.18 | asmodai | pats his BSD system |
| 13:19.20 | cncfanatics | which means arch is perfect for me :p |
| 13:19.54 | chexsum | hugs his "Just Works" Vista |
| 13:20.03 | Kalthar | arch is pretty much the perfect balance of binary and source built DIY distro |
| 13:20.07 | asmodai | chexsum: :D |
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| 13:20.59 | chexsum | i only care about nice to use and easy to modify |
| 13:21.03 | break19 | Kalthar. cncfanatics: you both -do- realize that gentoo has binary installation options, right? |
| 13:21.49 | many | Kalthar: i have been building Arch Stuff |
| 13:21.50 | many | TY |
| 13:22.11 | cncfanatics | chexsum: sounds like you should use , ehm, vista :D |
| 13:22.20 | break19 | or, at least, it did when I last used it in 2005.. until a few months ago, I havent even had a PC since 2005... Darwin BSD ftw |
| 13:22.25 | chexsum | nah its not easy to modify |
| 13:22.32 | many | chexsum: Just works is Plain wrong. |
| 13:22.42 | many | atleast when it comes to wow -.- |
| 13:22.53 | Kalthar | why the snide remark, many? ;p |
| 13:23.20 | many | because your remark suggest that i dont understand arch at all :p |
| 13:23.37 | chexsum | many, ive had no problems with it |
| 13:24.25 | break19 | I love how so many people are quoting the standard "hate MS" line every time a new version of windows comes out "It sucks, you cant modify it" and then, when a new version is released, that is just as customizable as the previous version. "The last version of windows was so much better than this piece of junk!" except they're forgetting they said that about the last one.. ad nauseum |
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| 13:24.52 | Kalthar | it wasn't aimed at you or anyone personally, i was just defining more or less what arch is. its the perfect balance between prebuilt binaries and source built distro :) |
| 13:24.55 | Lisimba | I still don't think people say ME is better. |
| 13:25.01 | chexsum | windows == c++ and i hate that |
| 13:25.12 | chexsum | linux is mostly c which is good |
| 13:25.18 | pentium166 | ... |
| 13:25.25 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with c++ ? |
| 13:25.40 | many | Kalthar: it is, yet gentoo has his binary reposes too |
| 13:25.44 | break19 | Lisimba: ME was crap... but I pretty much like the others, from 98 and up.. |
| 13:26.02 | many | and, eh, abs is just a PITA. but then maybe every build system is |
| 13:26.05 | Lisimba | Just saying, people don't *always* like previous versions better. |
| 13:26.31 | cncfanatics | break19: I think vista is the new ME |
| 13:26.43 | chexsum | c++ = bloat |
| 13:26.44 | break19 | Lisimba: but by you bitching about semantics, you're totally missing my entire point. |
| 13:26.47 | many | the problem with vista is that many applications dont know how to handle the privilege separations introduced in vista (and urgently needed) |
| 13:26.51 | p4aved1 | could be cncfanatics |
| 13:26.52 | Deviad | Re everyone |
| 13:26.55 | Fisker- | BUTTONBIIIIIIIN |
| 13:26.55 | many | so it is NOT just works |
| 13:27.06 | Fisker- | NeoTron i will find you |
| 13:27.11 | Deviad | Is it normal that Fubar bars are not extended through all the length of the screen? |
| 13:27.16 | Lisimba | break19: I'm saying your point may just be more coincidence than fact. |
| 13:27.25 | cncfanatics | chexsum: why ? :) |
| 13:27.28 | many | i think i even couldnt install wow at all, i just copied an old install from another box over. |
| 13:27.30 | break19 | cncfanatics: not hardly. Vista brings an entire change of how you will use the computer.. like win3.1 to win95 |
| 13:27.36 | Deviad | Is there any flag to switch on? |
| 13:27.52 | cncfanatics | break19: it was a welcome change from 3.1 -> 95 |
| 13:27.55 | cncfanatics | it ain't welcome now |
| 13:27.57 | break19 | cncfanatics: remember the millions of people who bitched about win95, and how it was horrible compared to 3.1? |
| 13:28.03 | chexsum | its got unnecessary overheads |
| 13:28.09 | cncfanatics | there were way way less then now break19 |
| 13:28.21 | Kalthar | Deviad: checked the scale setting? |
| 13:28.22 | Lisimba | I don't actually remember anyone bitching about 95 over 3.11 |
| 13:28.22 | many | anyway ultimate still is nicey. |
| 13:28.27 | pentium166 | there were way less people using computers then also |
| 13:28.32 | break19 | Lisimba: then go back. |
| 13:28.35 | p4aved1 | i was ten :/ |
| 13:28.41 | cncfanatics | tbh, I don't think vista brings an entire change |
| 13:28.50 | cncfanatics | it has very very few innovations |
| 13:29.03 | Lisimba | I'm sure there were peoplle bitching. But not people I knew. |
| 13:29.18 | chexsum | vista == doesnt crash like old stuff |
| 13:29.25 | p4aved1 | agreed |
| 13:29.31 | break19 | Lisimba: lots of people didn't upgrade for like 2 years, from 3.1 to 95. |
| 13:29.34 | many | privilege separation isnt innovative but it is a huge change for a windows :DD |
| 13:29.35 | p4aved1 | vista's crash recovery is alot better than xp |
| 13:29.51 | many | yea, instead it stops applications that has not crashed ^^ |
| 13:29.55 | cncfanatics | it shouldn't crash in teh first place ? |
| 13:29.58 | Lisimba | Heh, I didn't upgrade either. My computer couldn't handle it. |
| 13:30.05 | sacarasc | Hell-Razor: i gave up on digging and went to watch some crappy anime instead |
| 13:30.09 | Kalthar | xp is quite stable if treated right |
| 13:30.11 | many | halflife2.exe isnt responding anymore, closing application ... -.- |
| 13:30.13 | p4aved1 | in a perfect world nothing crashes :P |
| 13:30.15 | chexsum | fair enough it uses more resources but if youre on a quad 2g with gigs of memory youve got plenty to waste |
| 13:30.19 | Hell-Razor | sacarasc, lol |
| 13:30.25 | break19 | cncfanatics: innovations in the entire computing world? or in windows? because if you are talking point 1, then no. it doesnt. but Windows is finally seeing the like on privileges and such.. |
| 13:30.37 | cncfanatics | I was talking overal |
| 13:30.44 | cncfanatics | they brought NOTHING new, they just copied from other OS |
| 13:30.48 | asmodai | omg, OS discussions |
| 13:30.56 | cncfanatics | and they did a bad job at it too :p |
| 13:31.00 | many | chexsum: ah, yeah. |
| 13:31.01 | break19 | cncfanatics: lmfao. Windows ITSELF is a copy of another OS. DUH |
| 13:31.03 | Kalthar | think ive had vista blue screen more than i remember xp doing so on my own comp :) |
| 13:31.07 | many | while XP couldnt handle more than 4G... |
| 13:31.08 | many | hahaha |
| 13:31.43 | chexsum | ive never seen a blue screen in vista |
| 13:31.50 | mitch0 | me neither |
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| 13:31.55 | cncfanatics | break19: I know, but usualy they do a decent job copying stuff |
| 13:31.56 | mitch0 | never seen vista either though |
| 13:31.58 | chexsum | its never crashed |
| 13:32.10 | many | i did. with faulty hardware |
| 13:32.23 | asmodai | I recently see a BSoD from time to time in x64, but I am suspecting Creative's driver :S |
| 13:32.42 | chexsum | yeah creative is crap |
| 13:32.44 | Kalthar | creative, nvidia or logitech :) |
| 13:32.44 | break19 | cncfanatics: ms has -never- done a decent job at copying the other OS.. Only thing they've ever been able to get right is the visual stuff.. until now. |
| 13:32.47 | Lisimba | Bad drivers will screw you no matter what. |
| 13:32.51 | many | but i guess then only very few of you people saw a VESA Audio Card |
| 13:32.55 | chexsum | anything from the us is |
| 13:33.02 | chexsum | except the camaro |
| 13:33.23 | many | break19: no. visuals has always been done better by Apple. |
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| 13:33.53 | Kalthar | wonder why user mode windows drivers havent become the norm yet |
| 13:33.56 | break19 | many: re-read my sentence again. |
| 13:33.56 | pentium166 | windows xp classic style > * |
| 13:33.57 | cncfanatics | break19: I think they did a decent job at most things with win98SE |
| 13:34.29 | break19 | bangs his head into his desk.. |
| 13:34.35 | Kalthar | they've been pushing since xp afterall |
| 13:34.40 | asmodai | break19: bang your own head! |
| 13:34.58 | break19 | many: I said the ONLY thing they were able to "COPY" well.. was the visual stuff.. l2read |
| 13:35.11 | break19 | now, I'm gonna go have some coffee and go to work,. |
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| 13:35.22 | Lisimba | touchy |
| 13:35.31 | asmodai | No headbanging? :( |
| 13:35.48 | many | they didnt even decently copy the visuals |
| 13:35.50 | many | but anyway |
| 13:36.07 | many | maybe banging his head will give him some understanding instead of fucking. |
| 13:36.13 | pentium166 | because they didn't want to clone the mac os exactly, probably :p |
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| 13:36.33 | pentium166 | if they wanted to do that it would have been done years ago with little effort |
| 13:37.09 | many | the effort wouldnt be so little |
| 13:37.27 | chexsum | buy beos and restamp it - easy |
| 13:37.34 | pentium166 | not that i was a fan of the windows xp default visual style, but the icons were nice |
| 13:37.43 | many | uh |
| 13:38.34 | pentium166 | uh? |
| 13:38.48 | mitch0 | uhhuh |
| 13:38.58 | many | uhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 13:39.06 | asmodai | pentium166: they were pretty nice yea |
| 13:40.42 | chexsum | wtb 100g of mp3s |
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| 13:42.18 | pentium166 | wtb 100g |
| 13:43.21 | Hell-Razor | cncfanatics, http://rafb.net/p/fd9LhW33.html |
| 13:44.05 | Fisker- | I will find you NeoTron |
| 13:46.33 | cncfanatics | thats better |
| 13:46.35 | cncfanatics | MUCH better :p |
| 13:46.44 | cncfanatics | Fisker-: timecop > you |
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| 13:48.42 | Fisker- | no me > you |
| 13:49.22 | pentium166 | timecop > Fisker- > cncfanatics? |
| 13:50.00 | chexsum | 10 01timecop > Fisker- > all > cncfanatics |
| 13:50.19 | cncfanatics | I > Fisker- |
| 13:50.21 | cncfanatics | definatly |
| 13:50.23 | chexsum | and chexsum rules supreme |
| 13:51.09 | chexsum | later - gota get to sleep if i want to do 1000 hours straight of wotlk |
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| 13:52.15 | pentium166 | . |
| 13:52.47 | KriLL3 | btw just made this: http://www.krill3.com/alliancenorthrendmap-small.png (for web) and http://www.krill3.com/alliancenorthrendmap.png (for print) useful imo |
| 13:54.21 | p4aved | wtb horde |
| 13:55.00 | Fisker- | http://i36.tinypic.com/v4z8nt.jpg <-horde northrend map |
| 13:55.24 | p4aved | :( |
| 13:55.39 | p4aved | don't blame thrall, he didn't upgrade to mapster |
| 13:56.00 | thul | I'm not sure I like png |
| 13:56.16 | thul | the release of WOTLK is bad timing |
| 13:56.24 | thul | I have to mostly let it be until 3. desember |
| 13:56.37 | Pneumatus | those flight point locations are a bit rough KriLL3 :o |
| 13:57.10 | many | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=6666126570&sid=3&pageNo=3 |
| 13:57.11 | many | w00h00 |
| 13:57.29 | Pneumatus | sholazar flight points are at nessingwary camp and rivers heart, for example |
| 13:58.21 | Pneumatus | infact, its just those two that look wrong |
| 13:58.41 | sb|work | yay KriLL3: wtb horde map! :p |
| 13:59.13 | Fasti | is eu forums working? |
| 13:59.18 | many | no |
| 13:59.38 | thul | no kidding, we have a nesingwary? :-P |
| 13:59.51 | asmodai | heh tomcat errors |
| 14:00.08 | opant2 | thanks krill, thats awesome |
| 14:00.09 | many | theres even an achievement that requires wotlks nesingwary |
| 14:00.11 | many | already |
| 14:00.39 | many | also the one who requires you to buy mammuts from dalaran. first time i read it i was instantly visiting backhills or what it is called |
| 14:00.40 | Pneumatus | the suggest levels look a bit off as well |
| 14:00.41 | opant2 | of course, it wouldn't be an expansion without killing 250 animals |
| 14:00.42 | opant2 | ;p |
| 14:00.56 | Pneumatus | BT/HF should be 68-71, if not 72 |
| 14:00.58 | many | and their elite equivs |
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| 14:01.17 | asmodai | hehe, city of dalaran icon is purplish on the map and greenish in the map/legenda |
| 14:01.29 | p4aved | lets all pick in KriLL3 for his neat map some more imo |
| 14:01.47 | Pneumatus | just suggestions, p4aved |
| 14:01.52 | asmodai | exactly. |
| 14:01.59 | opant2 | <opant2> thanks krill, thats awesome |
| 14:02.00 | asmodai | KriLL3 knows we <3 him |
| 14:02.01 | opant2 | :P |
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| 14:03.27 | KriLL3 | it was slapped together in all haste, I'm just about to leave to get my copy |
| 14:03.34 | KriLL3 | sorry no horde version for now |
| 14:04.16 | laz3 | I want to play so bad |
| 14:04.17 | Pneumatus | i'm no good with timezones, how many hours away is it until the first US realms have LK? |
| 14:04.40 | laz3 | 15 hours |
| 14:04.43 | p4aved | wowinsider has a countdown clock, like 14 hours |
| 14:04.59 | Pneumatus | west-coast first, im guessing? |
| 14:05.09 | p4aved | yah |
| 14:05.35 | p4aved | well i think zarym said that its midnight est US and 2100 pst |
| 14:05.37 | p4aved | or something |
| 14:05.46 | opant2 | no, east coast is first |
| 14:05.53 | pentium166 | eastern canada gets shafted by an hour then :D |
| 14:05.59 | opant2 | west coast servers will go live at 3AM EST |
| 14:06.07 | p4aved | no |
| 14:06.14 | Pneumatus | are asian realms getting LK today as well? |
| 14:06.22 | p4aved | they go live @ midnight est which is 2100 pst |
| 14:06.25 | p4aved | look it up |
| 14:06.38 | opant2 | I realize that, but what if you're on a PST server ? |
| 14:06.57 | Pneumatus | i thought they all went live at midnight local |
| 14:07.02 | opant2 | will you not have to wait until 12AM PST aka 3AM EST? |
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| 14:07.16 | p4aved | opant2: no thats what i'm saying |
| 14:07.27 | p4aved | all realms go LK live @ midnight east coast time not realm time |
| 14:07.34 | opant2 | o |
| 14:07.43 | opant2 | so regardless of time zone |
| 14:07.46 | p4aved | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=12454671831&pageNo=1&sid=1#7 |
| 14:07.52 | Pneumatus | EST is CET-6 isnt it? |
| 14:08.07 | laz3 | 15 more hours guys |
| 14:08.11 | opant2 | not sure what CET is...but its -5 GMT :) |
| 14:08.20 | p4aved | est is gmt +7 i think |
| 14:08.21 | Pneumatus | yeh, CET is GMT+1 |
| 14:08.25 | p4aved | there u go |
| 14:08.41 | pentium166 | man, time zone fail in that topic |
| 14:08.51 | Pneumatus | so US get it 6 hours after EU basically? |
| 14:08.58 | p4aved | i should get out my "ffs blizz l2 GMT" bandwagon |
| 14:09.37 | asmodai | s/GMT/UTC |
| 14:09.51 | opant2 | http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/central-european-time/ |
| 14:10.05 | sb|work | yay, 9 hours |
| 14:10.06 | opant2 | yes, 6 hours |
| 14:10.16 | sb|work | (9 hours from now...) |
| 14:10.30 | many | 5-9 hours, depending on US TZ |
| 14:10.33 | asmodai | heh, New Agamand |
| 14:10.37 | Pneumatus | so, by that reckoning, do the chinese realms have LK already? |
| 14:10.45 | Pneumatus | or are they on a completely different release schedule? |
| 14:10.45 | p4aved | nope |
| 14:10.47 | opant2 | dont think so |
| 14:10.51 | sb|work | nah, chines is 1 week behind others, isnt it? |
| 14:10.54 | p4aved | there on a completely differn't patch cycle |
| 14:11.06 | many | yah, DIE CHINESE FARMERS! |
| 14:11.08 | many | oops |
| 14:11.12 | opant2 | 9 hours from now is 6PM :p |
| 14:11.14 | selckin | what are good dk leveling glyphs? |
| 14:11.19 | Pneumatus | how about australia/nz, do they follow the PST release time? |
| 14:11.21 | many | opant2: behint EU |
| 14:11.24 | many | behind, too |
| 14:11.36 | p4aved | oceanic realms i would assume are teh same as pst servers |
| 14:11.54 | sb|work | opant2: now for me :p |
| 14:12.00 | asmodai | For once EU is ahead of the game ;) |
| 14:12.04 | Pneumatus | yeh, EU realms are currently 15:11ish, so just under 9 hours |
| 14:12.06 | many | ah, ohwell. |
| 14:12.07 | p4aved | but u can't get a wrath cd key in aus till 8 hours later |
| 14:12.09 | many | 15:12 < Pneumatus> yeh, EU realms are currently 15:11ish, so just under 9 hours |
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| 14:12.20 | many | your clock is off by one :P |
| 14:12.23 | p4aved | unless u get one from the states or u got ur games shop to sell u one early |
| 14:12.42 | asmodai | Pneu is in the same timezone as me then |
| 14:12.44 | Pneumatus | my clock isnt off o.O |
| 14:12.50 | sb|work | 15:10 < Pneumatus> yeh, EU realms are currently 15:11ish, so just under 9 hours |
| 14:12.57 | sb|work | :P |
| 14:13.28 | many | bah, get ntp |
| 14:13.30 | opant2 | ....ah shit |
| 14:13.38 | opant2 | my laptop is making a high pitched noise |
| 14:13.49 | Pneumatus | having ntp doesnt make the realm clocks right though :P |
| 14:13.57 | many | hah |
| 14:14.03 | Pneumatus | the realm clocks are a minute behind ntp.org |
| 14:14.08 | many | see |
| 14:14.14 | many | they dont even get their network straight |
| 14:14.21 | many | so how should they know how to use NTP |
| 14:14.30 | p4aved | NTP is hard? |
| 14:14.37 | Pneumatus | infact, they are currently over a minute out |
| 14:14.45 | Pneumatus | about 1min 20 by my reckoning |
| 14:14.46 | many | or maybe its some RP to tell that a realm should be one minute off by RL. |
| 14:14.56 | sb|work | uh, my clock is off |
| 14:14.58 | sb|work | 2 minutes |
| 14:14.59 | sb|work | ffs |
| 14:15.09 | sb|work | fixed ;) |
| 14:15.11 | Pneumatus | watching the realm clocks when daylight savings change is interesting |
| 14:15.20 | Pneumatus | they just randomly show all kinds of times |
| 14:15.24 | many | or maybe they run the realms inside vmwares and didnt install vmtools |
| 14:15.31 | SunTsu | Hm, paladin t7 looks like Marvel's Hawkeye |
| 14:15.39 | sb|work | realmtime is some strange thing |
| 14:15.40 | asmodai | heh |
| 14:15.46 | asmodai | SunTsu: any like Captain America? ;) |
| 14:15.50 | sb|work | it differes from client to client |
| 14:15.54 | sb|work | which makes no sense |
| 14:16.03 | sb|work | its +/- 1-2 minutes |
| 14:16.09 | sb|work | and yes, REALM time, not local time :o |
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| 14:16.45 | SunTsu | asmodai: No, but I saw robocop there |
| 14:16.51 | SunTsu | Rogue's t7 |
| 14:17.02 | dodga | sb|work: It ain't easy keepin a clock in sync in a distributed system :D |
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| 14:17.24 | Pneumatus | ntp does a good enough job |
| 14:17.39 | dodga | sb|work: btw, you know of stores in stuttgart that already sell LK? :D |
| 14:17.56 | sb|work | dodga: no idea :) |
| 14:17.58 | dodga | damn. |
| 14:18.04 | sb|work | midnight shopping |
| 14:18.10 | sb|work | is fine for me |
| 14:18.28 | SunTsu | dodga: Just go to Saturn or MM and ask them |
| 14:18.40 | asmodai | I am sooooo going to be able to farm ore in Outland tomorrow ^^ |
| 14:18.43 | cncfanatics | are the realm first to 80 achievments still existant btw ? |
| 14:18.53 | dodga | i'll be roaming the streets in about 30 mintutes :D |
| 14:18.53 | sb|work | cncfanatics: no |
| 14:18.58 | cncfanatics | good stuff |
| 14:19.00 | Groktar | wewt |
| 14:19.09 | Groktar | just upgraded his account to wrath |
| 14:19.10 | asmodai | SunTsu: I find season 5 shaman gear a bit, meh |
| 14:19.12 | sb|work | dodga: tell me if you find something ;) |
| 14:19.19 | dodga | sb|work: will do |
| 14:19.22 | cncfanatics | WTB free wrath key |
| 14:19.28 | SunTsu | dodga: I'd be surprised if a little bribing wouldn't work ;) |
| 14:19.30 | dodga | thath realm first stuff is converted to feats iirc |
| 14:19.45 | dodga | SunTsu: got no boobies :/ |
| 14:19.48 | cncfanatics | well, they were always feats dodga |
| 14:19.52 | cncfanatics | but do they still give titles ? |
| 14:20.05 | dodga | cncfanatics: Oh, dunno about that, I'd guess no |
| 14:20.08 | asmodai | Bribing? In Germany? *gasp* |
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| 14:20.15 | dodga | If they do, I want a title for getting Atiesh |
| 14:20.19 | Slayman | me is back @ homes |
| 14:20.27 | dodga | somethng like "cheating at chess" or so |
| 14:20.48 | cncfanatics | I hope legendaries are nice in wrath |
| 14:20.49 | sb|work | asmodai: works well with boobies... |
| 14:20.52 | cncfanatics | and not lame like in BC |
| 14:21.07 | dodga | sb|work: everything works well with boobies! |
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| 14:21.14 | sb|work | mh yup |
| 14:21.28 | dodga | Boobies \o/ |
| 14:21.30 | Groktar | i got my wrath key from swagvault |
| 14:21.43 | Megalon | boobs are the masterkey to every door out there |
| 14:21.48 | dodga | btw, where's ellipsis? :D |
| 14:21.49 | asmodai | I love boobies! http://eriksnorris.com/Images/BlueFootedBoobies.jpg |
| 14:21.56 | Megalon | perhaps not the backdoor of gayclubs, but anything else |
| 14:22.17 | SunTsu | .o0( Damn, S5 DK looks like Magneto or Onslaught ) |
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| 14:23.23 | asmodai | SunTsu: I'm surprised DKs can move their arms in those Scourgeborne outfits |
| 14:23.32 | asmodai | those shoulder look awfully limiting |
| 14:24.44 | asmodai | Druid Dreamwalker is awful to look at, the Hunter Cryptstalker is quite nice on the other hand. |
| 14:25.00 | pentium166 | dreamwalker, eh. sounds tier 3ish |
| 14:25.07 | cncfanatics | got a screenie of the pally one asmodai ? |
| 14:25.17 | cncfanatics | pentium166: same name ... its from naxx |
| 14:25.20 | opant2 | where's the armor link" |
| 14:25.20 | pentium166 | oh. |
| 14:25.21 | opant2 | ? |
| 14:25.22 | asmodai | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/wotlk/armorsets/pve200_paladin_heal.jpg |
| 14:25.25 | pentium166 | well then, that explains it |
| 14:25.31 | pentium166 | does it look like tier 3 |
| 14:25.35 | asmodai | http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=822 |
| 14:25.38 | pentium166 | because that was ugly. |
| 14:25.39 | asmodai | Tier 7 sets |
| 14:25.58 | p4aved | paladin is pretty bad |
| 14:25.58 | opant2 | hahah pally heal looks like Voltron |
| 14:26.00 | asmodai | Frostfire hand piece just looks ill matched with the rest |
| 14:26.19 | asmodai | opant2: at least the colour scheme works |
| 14:26.20 | SunTsu | Most S5 is great. Great to be a shapeshifter, that is |
| 14:26.21 | cncfanatics | frostfire always looked great |
| 14:26.29 | cncfanatics | they fucked up frostfire ! |
| 14:26.30 | cncfanatics | booo |
| 14:26.33 | asmodai | cncfanatics: but not the gauntlets |
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| 14:26.51 | cncfanatics | asmodai: old frostfire looked way better iirc |
| 14:26.55 | asmodai | It looks ridiculous with those gauntlets |
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| 14:26.59 | asmodai | cncfanatics: t6? |
| 14:27.14 | cncfanatics | t3 ... |
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| 14:27.23 | asmodai | mmm *looks for a link* |
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| 14:27.31 | cncfanatics | looked slightly differently |
| 14:27.37 | asmodai | ah |
| 14:27.38 | Nenue | T7 looks like T3 that went through the wash with the colored clothing too many times |
| 14:27.42 | opant2 | hmm warlock looks like Cyrax from MK3 |
| 14:27.46 | asmodai | http://www.wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/basics/armorsets/tier3raid/mage/human-female.jpg |
| 14:27.54 | asmodai | that's indeed sweet |
| 14:28.05 | cncfanatics | its WAY better then t7 |
| 14:28.06 | cncfanatics | ah well |
| 14:28.15 | asmodai | nice colour scheme |
| 14:28.47 | cncfanatics | at least they improved pally t3 |
| 14:28.49 | cncfanatics | looked fugly |
| 14:29.10 | cncfanatics | btw, ding level 32 :p |
| 14:29.27 | asmodai | omg |
| 14:29.42 | asmodai | paladin t3 looks like something straight out of the Power rangers or similar series |
| 14:29.55 | sb|work | <3 power rangers ;) |
| 14:30.12 | cncfanatics | white power ranger reporting for service ! |
| 14:30.42 | asmodai | hehe, reminds me of Sinfest's Politically Incorrect Power Rangers |
| 14:30.42 | pentium166 | man, that looks so racist typed out |
| 14:30.49 | Elkano | I wanna be Red Ranger! |
| 14:30.53 | cncfanatics | pentium166: >.> |
| 14:31.27 | asmodai | I should try and collect the armor sets for fun |
| 14:31.32 | pentium166 | i never thought of it like that before |
| 14:31.48 | cncfanatics | :o |
| 14:31.53 | cncfanatics | the tanking pally set doesn't look that bad |
| 14:32.19 | Pucmel_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfOACVCOJsM |
| 14:32.19 | cncfanatics | oh wait |
| 14:32.23 | cncfanatics | meh, identical looks AGAIN |
| 14:32.37 | asmodai | cncfanatics: jups |
| 14:32.45 | asmodai | cncfanatics: some recolour in cases |
| 14:32.55 | cncfanatics | nop, all different spec sets all look identical |
| 14:33.09 | cncfanatics | mmm, dreamwalker doesn't look too bad either |
| 14:33.22 | cncfanatics | I still wonder why they didn't just keep the t3 designs though |
| 14:33.51 | many | so, why are USies able to download the lk installer already while EUies get nothing :( |
| 14:34.02 | asmodai | cncfanatics: dreamwalker doesn't work for me, looks-wise :S |
| 14:34.18 | Repo | 10torta: 03Quezacolt 04v0.2.2_Beta * r3 : Torta: First beta on WoWAce. Let's hope this works. |
| 14:35.08 | cncfanatics | its not too bad |
| 14:35.12 | cncfanatics | didn't say it was good |
| 14:35.50 | cncfanatics | pally one is acceptable as well |
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| 14:37.11 | cncfanatics | hmmm, to raid or not to raid in wotlk |
| 14:37.17 | sb|work | raid! |
| 14:37.29 | Groktar | ^ |
| 14:37.38 | mort | raid! |
| 14:38.02 | Groktar | find 9 friends and level to 80 in 5 days and start farming naxx |
| 14:38.08 | cncfanatics | noty |
| 14:38.08 | pentium166 | not too exciting to raid on my druid if he ends up looking like that |
| 14:38.10 | cncfanatics | lvl'ing my pally |
| 14:38.13 | pentium166 | excited* |
| 14:38.14 | cncfanatics | and can't afford wotlk this month |
| 14:38.20 | Groktar | :( |
| 14:38.22 | pentium166 | hopefully the non-set stuff looks alright |
| 14:38.22 | Nenue | ' |
| 14:38.24 | cncfanatics | pentium166: you're always shapeshifted anyway |
| 14:38.28 | pentium166 | so! |
| 14:38.36 | Fisker- | i'm melting |
| 14:38.41 | Nenue | I look forward to my piss-stained Faith regalia |
| 14:38.44 | asmodai | wonder how quickly you could level to 80 if you want to |
| 14:38.48 | cncfanatics | throws Fisker- in a campfire |
| 14:38.54 | Groktar | we'll see |
| 14:39.13 | cncfanatics | asmodai: I could do 30->70 in a week if I wanted to and then start wotlk :p |
| 14:39.13 | Groktar | i'm using flasks/scrolls/food |
| 14:39.32 | SunTsu | pentium166: Yeah, I plan on never ever going anywhere in t7 in elf form |
| 14:39.37 | cladhaire | so my leveling partner |
| 14:39.38 | cladhaire | at level 52 |
| 14:39.44 | cladhaire | is using a white mace in his mainhand |
| 14:39.54 | asmodai | cladhaire: :| |
| 14:40.02 | asmodai | cladhaire: selling all greens? |
| 14:40.03 | pentium166 | with recruit a friend? |
| 14:40.26 | cncfanatics | pentium166: without for me |
| 14:40.31 | Groktar | wonder if they're starting the northrend boats at exactly 12am est, or if it'll go up a bit earlier |
| 14:40.32 | cladhaire | just never picked anything up |
| 14:40.32 | cladhaire | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vek%27nilash&n=SÃoraÃocht |
| 14:40.34 | Groktar | <- camping boat |
| 14:40.58 | cladhaire | so I need to find him a mainhand. |
| 14:41.03 | Fisker- | thanks cncfanatics |
| 14:41.10 | Fisker- | you has wotlk cladhaire ? |
| 14:41.16 | pentium166 | win an AV cladhaire |
| 14:41.16 | cladhaire | no? |
| 14:41.23 | mort | and a new offhand |
| 14:41.28 | pentium166 | get the 41dps blue mace |
| 14:41.34 | cncfanatics | what level, armory is bugged |
| 14:41.51 | cncfanatics | oh 52 |
| 14:41.53 | cncfanatics | nvm me :p |
| 14:42.01 | cladhaire | pentium166: can you go into AV at 52? |
| 14:42.03 | mort | and tell him that str isn't the best stat for enhancers since 3.x |
| 14:42.07 | pentium166 | at 51 you can |
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| 14:42.14 | cncfanatics | just rush to outland and get outland ones tbh |
| 14:42.47 | pentium166 | just need to go to alterac and get the quest, i think. i haven't done it in a long time |
| 14:43.49 | cladhaire | yeah |
| 14:43.52 | cladhaire | we'll do that tonight |
| 14:43.59 | cladhaire | cause leveling the next 9 levels will be sad |
| 14:44.02 | cladhaire | without :P |
| 14:44.28 | cladhaire | and can't rush to outland, because my account doesn't have BC |
| 14:44.42 | cladhaire | wonder how long an account transfer takes :P |
| 14:45.11 | cncfanatics | anyone on bronze dragonflight EU horde with a guild that raids (even casualy) and accepts rerolls ? |
| 14:45.13 | cncfanatics | its boring guildless |
| 14:45.36 | asmodai | sorry, thunderhorn here |
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| 14:47.52 | cncfanatics | aww, noone I guess :p |
| 14:50.52 | sb|work | bah |
| 14:51.05 | sb|work | ok thats it, off from work now, finally :p |
| 14:51.10 | sb|work | bye :p |
| 14:51.14 | Zhinjio | those were pretty specific criteria *grinN* |
| 14:51.40 | cncfanatics | Zhinjio: you never know :D |
| 14:51.48 | Zhinjio | true |
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| 14:55.55 | weziman | Groktar, i expect they will do rolling restarts |
| 14:55.58 | weziman | as they did for TBC |
| 14:58.08 | Groktar | ah, is that what happened? |
| 14:58.41 | Groktar | i just remember waiting outside the portal for a couple hours killing horde |
| 14:59.02 | Groktar | and then going to gamestop at 11pst |
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| 15:02.13 | selckin | pvp pisses me off so bad |
| 15:07.56 | pentium166 | there is haste rating on the 10 man feral tier 7 gloves. |
| 15:07.59 | pentium166 | i am going to stab someone |
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| 15:08.26 | SunTsu | pentium166: At least you can gather faster ;) |
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| 15:08.51 | pentium166 | oh boy |
| 15:08.55 | Fasti | pentium166: haste is fine |
| 15:09.02 | Fasti | crit rating is the most useless |
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| 15:09.49 | cncfanatics | whats wrong with haste pentium166 ? :p |
| 15:11.12 | pentium166 | cat form is like using a single one-handed weapon |
| 15:11.31 | cncfanatics | point being ? |
| 15:11.43 | pentium166 | no benefit from an offhand for haste |
| 15:11.51 | harl | oO |
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| 15:12.18 | cncfanatics | haste rating boosts white dmg by the same % wether ur using a 2hander, a 1hander or dual wielding |
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| 15:12.39 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: as a feral druid? |
| 15:12.59 | harl | no, the point is that cat form has a 1.0 attack timing, no matter what weapon you use |
| 15:13.01 | pentium166 | the same % yes, and the base white dps is low so the haste doesn't benefit feral as much as anyone else |
| 15:13.01 | Fasti | pentium166: wth area you thinking? :P |
| 15:13.18 | Fasti | ooc scales with haste |
| 15:13.20 | pentium166 | that's how i see it anyway. |
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| 15:13.42 | harl | you'll still benefit from it |
| 15:13.45 | cncfanatics | and, as Fasti said |
| 15:13.48 | harl | ans so will i |
| 15:13.51 | harl | *and |
| 15:14.10 | Fasti | armorpenrating=0.66-0.90 str=0.77 hit/exprating=0.72 agi=0.71 2ap=0.66 hasterating=0.52 critrating=0.48 |
| 15:14.31 | Fasti | eat that |
| 15:14.38 | cncfanatics | Fasti: we tend to disbelieve numbers without calculations here |
| 15:14.42 | pentium166 | so it's better than crit? |
| 15:14.47 | pentium166 | but worse than everything else |
| 15:15.14 | Fasti | so what? |
| 15:15.15 | harl | how is crit bad for a cat |
| 15:15.21 | Fasti | spread stats >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stacked stats |
| 15:15.33 | Fasti | because it just gives crit? |
| 15:15.52 | Fasti | and doesn't scale with any buffs |
| 15:15.58 | cncfanatics | to expand on what Fasti just said |
| 15:16.00 | Fasti | those with bok btw |
| 15:16.11 | cncfanatics | blizzard's stat distribution system is logaritmic |
| 15:16.23 | pentium166 | i recognize that |
| 15:16.25 | cncfanatics | items with a lot of one stat are always worse then items with a little of every stat |
| 15:16.41 | Fasti | bliz can't put str+agi+ap in same item |
| 15:16.50 | Fasti | uups.. str/ap |
| 15:17.13 | Fasti | actually there is no str leathers |
| 15:17.22 | harl | ? |
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| 15:17.41 | harl | of course there is? |
| 15:17.43 | cncfanatics | Fasti: you mean in wotlk ? |
| 15:17.47 | Fasti | ohwell... armorpen+ap+agi+?? hit perhaps but you can't stack that too much, so lets choose haste too |
| 15:17.49 | Fasti | yes |
| 15:17.50 | cncfanatics | cuz I'm sure there is before that |
| 15:18.13 | Fasti | ah expertise too, but that can be capped really fast also |
| 15:18.27 | Fasti | then the haste will be the only stat after those |
| 15:18.38 | harl | i'll always prefer agi+crit above str+ap |
| 15:18.55 | Fasti | crit is poo, always been poo |
| 15:19.26 | Fasti | just kids yelling large damage numbers they get, then everyone wants to experience them by stacking useless stat |
| 15:19.26 | harl | not for me |
| 15:19.57 | harl | dunno. i don't care for the numbers |
| 15:19.59 | pentium166 | you'd get larger damage numbers by stacking ap/str anyway |
| 15:20.03 | cncfanatics | harl: class ? |
| 15:20.03 | pentium166 | just less frequently |
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| 15:20.11 | harl | druid |
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| 15:20.27 | cncfanatics | crit ain't good at all for ferals :p |
| 15:20.31 | harl | but i do get 2 combo points more often with more crit, so that's a benefit |
| 15:20.34 | AckisWork | hai guis |
| 15:20.38 | Fasti | those numbers are taken from simulator that simulates wow %chance fully |
| 15:20.46 | asmodai | hey AckisWork |
| 15:20.46 | harl | cncfanatics: it is for me |
| 15:21.00 | Fasti | lol |
| 15:21.04 | cncfanatics | harl: why ? |
| 15:21.09 | AckisWork | asmodai: what was the status of the dataminer? |
| 15:21.18 | asmodai | AckisWork: well, I do wind up with diffs |
| 15:21.21 | harl | because i like it? |
| 15:21.27 | Fasti | getting faster combopoints =! big dps |
| 15:21.30 | cncfanatics | the fact you like it more doesn't mean its better |
| 15:21.37 | AckisWork | asmodai: can you give me a pastey of a diff for enchanting? |
| 15:21.40 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.42 | asmodai | sure |
| 15:21.45 | Fasti | liking is a totally different matter from top dps thou |
| 15:21.53 | harl | i don't care for "big dps". as you said, only "kids yelling large damage numbers" care for that. |
| 15:22.13 | p4aved | ~wowalert |
| 15:22.14 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 15:22.50 | cncfanatics | harl: you should care about helping your raid as much as possible though |
| 15:22.52 | AckisWork | if you can't wait for wrath click here: http://ackis.myminicity.com/env :P |
| 15:23.32 | harl | cncfanatics: i do care for intelligent playing. that doesn't mean an enemy has to die as quickly as possible while ignoring the rest. |
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| 15:23.51 | cncfanatics | how does crit help you achieve that ? |
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| 15:26.01 | harl | it doesn't. never said that, but pointing at dps doesn't either. |
| 15:26.19 | harl | but actually, i don't think i'm doing that less damage with about 38% of crit |
| 15:27.00 | Fasti | what do you socket? :) |
| 15:29.33 | harl | mainly agi and crit as well |
| 15:31.22 | Fasti | >< |
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| 15:31.29 | Fasti | less crit :P |
| 15:31.40 | Fasti | if you can avoid it |
| 15:32.59 | harl | well, i'm happy with it as it is. |
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| 15:38.56 | Groktar | explodes near Zeksie |
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| 15:39.23 | asmodai | wonders why Horde has 2 flight points more than Alliance in Northrend |
| 15:39.55 | p4aved | cause we rok ur f4c3 kk |
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| 15:42.02 | Fasti | horde needs handicap |
| 15:42.20 | cncfanatics | we couldn't find northrend |
| 15:42.29 | cncfanatics | so to compensate we added two more flight points when we did find it |
| 15:43.45 | asmodai | rofl |
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| 15:53.57 | KriLL3|cell | I'm now in line. 7 hours to go... |
| 15:54.05 | pentium166 | .. |
| 15:54.18 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 15:54.22 | cncfanatics | I thought I was about to ding 33 |
| 15:54.24 | p4aved | hardcore man |
| 15:54.28 | cncfanatics | turns out I'm about to ding 34 |
| 15:54.28 | cncfanatics | nais |
| 15:55.02 | Groktar | explodes near cncfanatics, covering him with groktarparts |
| 15:55.13 | cncfanatics | bubbles |
| 15:55.41 | KriLL3|cell | I got a cushion though! And candy! |
| 15:55.59 | SunTsu | KriLL3|cell: I just found a midnight opening. I plan to be there exactly at 0:00, look at those poor guys, laugh hard, punch somebody in the face who wears a costume and then go home and to bed ;) |
| 15:56.06 | pentium166 | blanket? stove? |
| 15:56.49 | KriLL3|cell | Sun is evil! |
| 15:57.18 | KriLL3|cell | It's inside a mall |
| 15:57.20 | cncfanatics | SunTsu: where do you live ? I wanne see that |
| 15:57.45 | SunTsu | cncfanatics: Duisburg, germany |
| 15:58.01 | cncfanatics | damn too far |
| 15:58.04 | chexsum | thats german for dooshbag |
| 15:58.06 | cncfanatics | please make someone fiml it |
| 15:58.19 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth * r58 / (4 files in 1 directory): -- Update version and web links |
| 15:58.20 | Repo | -- eol property |
| 15:58.55 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1736 / (16 files in 12 directories): |
| 15:58.56 | Repo | Inscription complete, Blacksmithing reinstated, just need to test it before wotlk goes live. |
| 15:59.31 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth 04v3.0.3.01 wotlk release * r59 : Tagging as v3.0.3.01 wotlk release |
| 16:00.05 | pompy | ~serveralert |
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| 16:00.21 | pompy | ~wowalert |
| 16:00.22 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
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| 16:11.47 | KriLL3|cell | This cushion is drawing envious looks... People are sitting on the stone floor :p |
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| 16:12.41 | pentium166 | i am somewhat amused that there is an actual lineup for it |
| 16:13.21 | KriLL3|cell | Was last time also |
| 16:13.41 | KriLL3|cell | 1000 people or so |
| 16:14.00 | KriLL3|cell | About 30 here now |
| 16:14.02 | pentium166 | crazy |
| 16:14.32 | KriLL3|cell | Well it's indoors |
| 16:14.51 | pentium166 | still, sitting around in a mall for 7 hours |
| 16:15.02 | p4aved | sounds boring |
| 16:15.07 | KriLL3|cell | Outside and there would be a lot less |
| 16:15.15 | pentium166 | if you don't have a line buddy you can't even go to the food court |
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| 16:16.11 | KriLL3|cell | Well there is conversation, and some are playing the card game etc |
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| 16:16.41 | p4aved | some1 should bite the bullet set up some wireless net |
| 16:16.46 | p4aved | take ur laptop |
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| 16:17.38 | KriLL3|cell | And store staff is handing out swag and t-shirts |
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| 16:19.16 | KriLL3|cell | I got a Hsdpa equiped laptop left it at home dont want it stolen |
| 16:19.46 | KriLL3|cell | Typing with a keypad sucks |
| 16:20.02 | KriLL3|cell | Fyk |
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| 16:24.33 | cncfanatics | mmm, what is the addon that makes ur questlog longer called again ? |
| 16:24.42 | nevcairiel | doublewide |
| 16:25.00 | nevcairiel | which makes it (surprise) double wide |
| 16:25.04 | nevcairiel | or just frames resized |
| 16:25.07 | cncfanatics | ty :) |
| 16:25.07 | nevcairiel | which just makes it longer |
| 16:25.13 | cncfanatics | couldn't come up with the name |
| 16:25.28 | cncfanatics | do they combine well ? |
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| 16:27.53 | cncfanatics | guess they don't |
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| 16:39.36 | Repo | - Fix binding header |
| 16:39.40 | Repo | - Reprioritized Northrend cooking quests over Outland cooking quests |
| 16:40.45 | cncfanatics | wtf ? :o |
| 16:40.49 | cncfanatics | nekoh be spammy |
| 16:41.00 | Fasti | neko neko! |
| 16:41.02 | nekoh | sorry ;/ |
| 16:41.15 | Funkeh` | So um |
| 16:41.19 | Funkeh` | is this realistic |
| 16:41.25 | Funkeh` | wotlk 17 pounds |
| 16:41.33 | Funkeh` | collectors edition 200 pounds |
| 16:41.39 | p4aved | :/ |
| 16:41.50 | durcyn | well, there's a lot of extra stuff in that box, i'm not surprised it weighs more. |
| 16:41.54 | durcyn | i'll be here all night, try the veal. |
| 16:42.12 | Funkeh` | yes but I don't see it being worth 200 |
| 16:42.57 | Dalamar1991 | 200 pounds is pretty heavy. |
| 16:43.04 | Dalamar1991 | i don't think there's THAT much extra stuff in there. |
| 16:43.20 | Shirik|zZz | heh |
| 16:43.21 | Dalamar1991 | even 17 pounds for standard sounds really heavy to me. |
| 16:43.22 | dodga | they put in extra stones |
| 16:43.24 | Shirik|zZz | that's what I was thinking when he said that |
| 16:43.28 | Dalamar1991 | i'd think like... 1lb at most. |
| 16:43.33 | Shirik|zZz | then I realized Funkeh` lives in crazyland |
| 16:43.34 | dodga | well my LK nonCE is pretty lightweight |
| 16:43.45 | dodga | but then again we have the metric system over here :D |
| 16:43.57 | Dalamar1991 | same here :P |
| 16:44.05 | Shirik|zZz | screw the metric system |
| 16:44.19 | Funkeh` | is non ce dvd? |
| 16:44.23 | Dalamar1991 | except for some reason, my country doesn't use metric system for people's weights... |
| 16:44.33 | durcyn | both should be dvd, Funkeh` |
| 16:44.35 | Dalamar1991 | yea, it's all dvd now |
| 16:44.42 | dodga | it is a DVD |
| 16:44.46 | Funkeh` | http://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Collectors/dp/B001GXQOUA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1226507953&sr=8-7 |
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| 16:44.51 | Funkeh` | scroll to product features |
| 16:44.57 | Shirik|zZz | what's worse is that you guys came up with teh currency "pound" before you switched to metric, no? |
| 16:45.02 | Shirik|zZz | Who the hell names a currency after a weight? |
| 16:45.06 | durcyn | it's ~2 gigabytes just for the installer, if they did 4 CDs again, I'd hurt someone |
| 16:45.10 | Pneumatus | is doublewide only on wowi? |
| 16:45.16 | Shirik|zZz | probably |
| 16:45.31 | Funkeh` | An exclusive in-game pet: Frosty, the baby frost wyrm. |
| 16:45.33 | Dalamar1991 | Pneumatus: that's the only place i could ever find it |
| 16:45.35 | Funkeh` | the only thing I actually want |
| 16:45.35 | dodga | sb: Galeria Kaufhof had 2 copies :D |
| 16:45.44 | Funkeh` | 200 pounds for a met, omnomnom |
| 16:45.47 | Funkeh` | pet* |
| 16:45.50 | sb | dodga: I HATE YOU |
| 16:45.56 | Pneumatus | shall add it to my wowi downloader then |
| 16:46.10 | sb | dodga: well... "had", yes? :p |
| 16:46.16 | dodga | yeah |
| 16:46.18 | Funkeh` | Pneumatus, you should just kick Shirik|zZz to bing out the new version of the updater |
| 16:46.26 | Shirik|zZz | yeah :( |
| 16:46.29 | Shirik|zZz | I've just been swamped lately |
| 16:46.31 | Dalamar1991 | so you european folk already have LK? |
| 16:46.35 | dodga | we asked if they had more (of course after we paid and put it in our bags), but the guy said "I'll have them tomorrow" :o |
| 16:46.37 | sb | not yet |
| 16:46.41 | dodga | Dalamar1991: I sure do :D |
| 16:46.42 | sb | ~6 hours, |
| 16:46.49 | Dalamar1991 | when do servers go live with LK? |
| 16:46.59 | Pneumatus | one that doesnt make UAC moan every launch, hopefully |
| 16:47.04 | dodga | Dalamar1991: As soon as you can upgrade your account you can go to Northrend |
| 16:47.08 | dodga | I don't think they need to restart |
| 16:47.09 | Shirik|zZz | Pneumatus |
| 16:47.12 | Dalamar1991 | that's not the case here. |
| 16:47.22 | Shirik|zZz | with the new WoW install location, it shouldn't need to |
| 16:47.23 | cncfanatics | dodga: I think they did it in the maintenance |
| 16:47.26 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 16:47.29 | Shirik|zZz | However I'll try to check before requiesting privileges |
| 16:47.31 | Funkeh` | it's cheaper here for wotlk basic |
| 16:47.33 | Funkeh` | than in the US |
| 16:47.33 | dodga | but then again, I'm backing up BC right now to install LK :D |
| 16:47.36 | Funkeh` | UP YOURS |
| 16:47.39 | Shirik|zZz | Before, I just told it to always request highest available |
| 16:47.39 | Lywellyn | Dalamar1991: Servers go live at 9:00PM PST |
| 16:47.40 | dodga | Hadn't logged in since 7 hours or so |
| 16:47.49 | Dalamar1991 | last night people were logging in already after putting in their codes and nothing had changed for them yet |
| 16:47.51 | Pneumatus | Shirik|zZz: the only issue may be the location the updater is installed |
| 16:47.59 | Dalamar1991 | Lywellyn: for Europeans too? |
| 16:48.05 | Shirik|zZz | no that won't be an issue |
| 16:48.08 | Shirik|zZz | I'm being sure to use %APPDATA% |
| 16:48.28 | dodga | I paid 34.99 euros |
| 16:48.29 | sb | our servers are online actually :p |
| 16:48.35 | Funkeh` | http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Wrath-Lich-Collectors-Pc/dp/B001G4VCII/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1226508491&sr=8-26 |
| 16:48.36 | Lywellyn | Dalamar1991: To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure. My friend found the blue post on the US forums for that time, I don't know if a similar one was posted on the EU forums. |
| 16:48.37 | Funkeh` | 200 dollars |
| 16:48.39 | dodga | I also got 4 tickets to metallica in may for a friend :D |
| 16:48.42 | Dalamar1991 | sb: and people are already in outland? |
| 16:48.43 | Funkeh` | HOW DOES THAT MAKE ECONOMIC SENSE |
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| 16:48.58 | sb | Dalamar1991: upgrade site is not up yet |
| 16:49.05 | sb | so you cant get to northrend ;) |
| 16:49.14 | Lywellyn | sb: what, to upgrade your account? It certainly is. |
| 16:49.17 | Dalamar1991 | well it's up here, and you still can't get to northrend :P |
| 16:49.17 | dodga | sb: I'm chargin ma lazers! |
| 16:49.18 | sb | no |
| 16:49.19 | sb | its not |
| 16:49.26 | sb | description Access to the specified resource () has been forbidden. |
| 16:49.28 | sb | :) |
| 16:49.32 | sb | it WAs online, yep |
| 16:49.37 | Dalamar1991 | Lywellyn: are you aware we're talking about Europe? |
| 16:49.39 | Funkeh` | 200.00 USD |
| 16:49.39 | Funkeh` | |
| 16:49.39 | Funkeh` | = |
| 16:49.39 | Funkeh` | |
| 16:49.39 | Funkeh` | 133.983 GBP |
| 16:49.42 | Funkeh` | oops |
| 16:49.48 | opant2 | lol |
| 16:49.52 | Lywellyn | sb: great webserver maintenance there. lol! |
| 16:49.54 | Stanzilla | slaps Funkeh` |
| 16:50.03 | cncfanatics | bah, still 34 levels to go before I can enter northrend |
| 16:50.08 | Dalamar1991 | Not that it matters... most of our realms are offline here. |
| 16:50.13 | Funkeh` | so I should just like import it fom the US -.- |
| 16:50.14 | Dalamar1991 | My realm never even came online last night... |
| 16:50.19 | Dalamar1991 | So it's been down 24 hours. |
| 16:50.30 | p4aved | realms are coming up |
| 16:50.36 | cncfanatics | thats the good thing about US Dalamar1991 |
| 16:50.41 | Dalamar1991 | yea... they said that last night too |
| 16:50.43 | cncfanatics | they fuck up there, and fuck up less in the EU |
| 16:50.45 | Dalamar1991 | and my realm never came up. |
| 16:51.07 | Dalamar1991 | I'm not in the US... I shouldn't have to suffer. |
| 16:51.20 | cncfanatics | l2playonEU |
| 16:51.27 | ulic | what the new northrend badges of justice called? |
| 16:51.29 | Funkeh` | http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/World-of-Warcraft-Wrath-of-the-Lich-King-Collector-s-Edition-PC-020626728201/sem/rpsm/oid/225081/catOid/-12996/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do $69.99 |
| 16:51.31 | Dalamar1991 | Canada deserves its own servers. |
| 16:51.32 | Funkeh` | you know what |
| 16:51.34 | Funkeh` | fuck this |
| 16:51.54 | durcyn | moot point, circuit city just declared bankruptcy |
| 16:52.04 | Shirik|zZz | ! |
| 16:52.06 | Shirik|zZz | really? |
| 16:52.07 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 16:52.12 | opant2 | yeah |
| 16:52.16 | p4aved | australia deserves it own servers |
| 16:52.16 | opant2 | yesterday I think |
| 16:52.19 | Dalamar1991 | CE is only 90$ CAD here |
| 16:52.20 | p4aved | imo |
| 16:52.21 | Pneumatus | CE is 49.99 GBP if you can find anyone selling it |
| 16:52.35 | Dalamar1991 | which is like... 55 GBP |
| 16:52.38 | Funkeh` | well lets just put it this way |
| 16:52.46 | Funkeh` | amazin.co.uk isn't gettig 200 pounds from me for ce |
| 16:52.59 | Dalamar1991 | Australia HAS its own servers. |
| 16:53.01 | pentium166 | the amazon one was someone reselling it |
| 16:53.03 | pentium166 | i think |
| 16:53.21 | pentium166 | australia's servers are not in australia though |
| 16:53.38 | KriLL3|cell | 50Euro here for ce |
| 16:53.50 | p4aved | pentium166: ohrly, that might explain my 300 ms ping |
| 16:53.53 | p4aved | or maybe not |
| 16:53.58 | Funkeh` | where from |
| 16:54.13 | sb | i think i wont get a CE :/ |
| 16:54.16 | sb | *sigh* |
| 16:54.22 | pentium166 | i'm pretty sure the australia ones are in the states |
| 16:54.24 | Funkeh` | KriLL3|cell, |
| 16:54.32 | KriLL3|cell | Sweden |
| 16:54.32 | Dalamar1991 | yea, they are. |
| 16:54.38 | Dalamar1991 | but at least they have their own. |
| 16:54.40 | p4aved | they are....that was my point |
| 16:54.46 | Funkeh` | KriLL3|cell, store or url? |
| 16:54.54 | KriLL3|cell | Store |
| 16:54.58 | Funkeh` | aww |
| 16:55.05 | KriLL3|cell | Gamestop |
| 16:55.12 | winkiller | are us people already levelling? |
| 16:55.18 | Funkeh` | maybe I should actually look in a store tomorow |
| 16:55.25 | winkiller | I am so confused atm |
| 16:55.30 | Funkeh` | winkiller, no |
| 16:55.37 | Dalamar1991 | i'm not looking forward to standing in the cold for 3 hours waiting to get my copy of LK... |
| 16:55.42 | winkiller | launch was said to be 13th. now I got my stuff this afternoon |
| 16:55.52 | winkiller | in every store here in Germany |
| 16:55.56 | opant2 | US people can't level until 12 hours from now. |
| 16:56.09 | winkiller | so you can't enter your code yet? |
| 16:56.18 | p4aved | u can upgrade ur account |
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| 16:56.23 | p4aved | servers aren't live with wrath but |
| 16:56.31 | winkiller | so rolling restarts tomorrow? |
| 16:56.32 | Dalamar1991 | opant2: no... US people can't level till servers come online... which i'm betting is going to be a lot longer than 12 hours from now |
| 16:56.38 | winkiller | that's what I mean with confused |
| 16:56.46 | winkiller | EU servers had maint today |
| 16:56.59 | Funkeh` | http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/09/26/wow_collectors_edition/ |
| 16:57.03 | Funkeh` | thats why it's so expensive |
| 16:57.07 | Funkeh` | we'r being ripped off |
| 16:57.11 | p4aved | dalamar1991: US servers are up |
| 16:57.16 | p4aved | u just can't get to northrend |
| 16:58.09 | Groktar | it would have been hilarious if you could get xp before servers went up |
| 16:58.16 | Dalamar1991 | do you honestly believe that at 12:01 you'll just magically have access? |
| 16:58.26 | winkiller | that's the question |
| 16:58.28 | Dalamar1991 | the servers will undergo restarts for sure. |
| 16:58.31 | winkiller | TBC had massive huge downtimes |
| 16:58.37 | winkiller | and this is completely different now |
| 16:58.40 | p4aved | no i expect rolling restarts at midnight |
| 16:58.46 | Dalamar1991 | and given blizz's track record in the last 3 weeks... restarts are going to result in massive failures |
| 16:58.59 | winkiller | lol |
| 16:59.04 | Dalamar1991 | my server hasn't been online in over 24 hours. |
| 16:59.12 | Cheads | account upgrade greyed out on EU front page |
| 16:59.21 | Dalamar1991 | i have absolutely no faith it's going to magically be up and 100% stable by midnight tonight |
| 16:59.44 | opant2 | actually, my server is online now. |
| 16:59.45 | SunTsu | woohoo, I could opt-in for WotLK beta ;) |
| 16:59.54 | Dalamar1991 | https://upgrade.wow-europe.com/installer/ |
| 17:00.01 | Dalamar1991 | not online :P |
| 17:00.12 | Dalamar1991 | https://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/installer/ |
| 17:00.14 | Dalamar1991 | online |
| 17:00.29 | Dalamar1991 | opant2: ok, lucky you. :P mine isn't |
| 17:00.44 | nevcairiel | isnt EU hitting midnight before US? =P |
| 17:00.45 | Cheads | I bet the euro download won't work =) |
| 17:01.06 | winkiller | I have my WotLK |
| 17:01.09 | winkiller | in the EU |
| 17:01.18 | winkiller | why the midnight sale crap? :OP |
| 17:01.50 | SunTsu | winkiller: Because people go there and it's good PR |
| 17:02.11 | winkiller | it's pointless if it is *this* night |
| 17:02.25 | winkiller | *last* night would have been the time |
| 17:02.39 | Fisker- | no Funkeh` |
| 17:02.42 | opant2 | Dalamar: which realm are you on |
| 17:02.49 | Fisker- | The reason why it's expensive is because they know they can price it that way |
| 17:02.51 | SunTsu | winkiller: So it is 11/13 already? ;) |
| 17:02.53 | Lywellyn | Wow. xD I sent in a ticket about an issue I'm having around six hours ago, and now I get on, and it still has approximately 80 minutes left. lol xD |
| 17:02.59 | Dalamar1991 | opant2: skullcrasher |
| 17:03.00 | Funkeh` | Fisker-, and that :) |
| 17:03.04 | winkiller | SunTsu: according to Blizzard.. yes :P |
| 17:03.10 | Fisker- | a lot of retailers are pricing the CE around the double of the MSRP |
| 17:03.19 | SunTsu | Damn, I didn't know that |
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| 17:03.31 | Fisker- | It's ridiculous |
| 17:03.46 | Fisker- | In my opinion Blizzard should just cut off business with those jerks |
| 17:03.57 | opant2 | skullcrusher is up |
| 17:04.04 | Dalamar1991 | yea, all of 2 minutes ago |
| 17:04.13 | Dalamar1991 | for the first time in like 27 hours |
| 17:04.45 | winkiller | <- no CE |
| 17:05.01 | winkiller | it's kind of impossible to get one here anyway |
| 17:05.18 | winkiller | all the small towns in Germany had loads of TBC CE in stock the whole week after launch |
| 17:05.34 | opant2 | qq more imo |
| 17:05.36 | winkiller | I couldn't get one in like 15 shops in the city center at 10-11 am |
| 17:05.58 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1053 / (5 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 7 lines) |
| 17:05.58 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
| 17:05.59 | Repo | - Added option to prevent excluded recipes from being displayed in the progress bar |
| 17:06.01 | Repo | - Two new localization entries: |
| 17:06.02 | winkiller | not qq, I'm not bothered :) |
| 17:06.05 | Repo | L["Include Excluded"]= true |
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| 17:06.36 | winkiller | I just find it strange |
| 17:06.54 | opant2 | that wasn't directed at you win :x |
| 17:07.36 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r102 / (4 files in 4 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0: |
| 17:07.37 | Repo | - Add*ToItemList functions now return reference to the item they added |
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| 17:08.04 | winkiller | ok :P |
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| 17:08.33 | SunTsu | I wouldn't even want a CE |
| 17:09.49 | many | ow |
| 17:09.52 | many | its 403 |
| 17:10.05 | many | theres hope they release the file later the day |
| 17:11.06 | kenlyric | outfitter is so awesome it has two minimap buttons! |
| 17:12.31 | many | one button for every outfit? |
| 17:12.53 | kenlyric | looks to me like one standalone button and one LDB related button |
| 17:13.02 | kenlyric | and also the LDB plugin button in fortress |
| 17:13.49 | kenlyric | ah, minimap button and fubar plugin attached to minimap |
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| 17:40.06 | dodga | zomg. |
| 17:40.15 | dodga | the german dvd only has german cinematics |
| 17:40.32 | SunTsu | dodga: What did you expect? |
| 17:40.48 | dodga | well, it installs enGB, too, so where's the cinematics in that language? |
| 17:40.59 | dodga | where's my mpq explorer... |
| 17:41.14 | Matrix110 | cinematics are not in the mpqs |
| 17:41.25 | dodga | well |
| 17:41.31 | Matrix110 | World of Warcraft\Data\enGB\Interface\Cinematics |
| 17:41.31 | dodga | as there are only installer tome mpqs |
| 17:41.36 | dodga | and a directx directory on the dvd |
| 17:41.42 | dodga | where did the german cinematics come from? :D |
| 17:41.49 | Matrix110 | oh |
| 17:42.06 | Matrix110 | good question |
| 17:42.22 | Matrix110 | but I think its just saved in german then |
| 17:42.26 | Matrix110 | its "just" 50MB |
| 17:42.37 | Matrix110 | because they were to cheapass to include the 720p version... |
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| 17:43.17 | dodga | hrrrmpf. |
| 17:43.23 | dodga | movies.mpq contains really only deDE |
| 17:43.52 | dodga | ah well, can't have everything |
| 17:44.17 | pentium166 | does the game complain at you if you change movie files? |
| 17:44.29 | dodga | Don't think so |
| 17:44.36 | dodga | As Matrix110 already said they are per-language |
| 17:44.50 | dodga | So I could just copy the files from someone that has the enGB files into the directory |
| 17:44.59 | dodga | And I'm going to delete deDE anyways, so meh :D |
| 17:47.35 | dodga | Uuh I iz so clever |
| 17:47.35 | Matrix110 | thats why you download the real enGB DVD :P |
| 17:47.44 | dodga | Just gonna take the files from the beta client |
| 17:47.47 | dodga | dun dun duuuun |
| 17:47.57 | sb | stfu already :p |
| 17:48.05 | dodga | 40% :S |
| 17:48.10 | Matrix110 | on piratebay you can download the retail DVD for a week I think |
| 17:48.24 | Matrix110 | its fast aswell |
| 17:49.05 | Slayman | just a couple more hours |
| 17:49.36 | dodga | hrmpf iso |
| 17:50.52 | sb | dodga: 40% what? |
| 17:51.15 | dodga | 50% installed :D |
| 17:51.17 | SunTsu | Matrix110: Yay for trojans |
| 17:51.38 | Matrix110 | SunTsu not really |
| 17:51.42 | Cheads | yah fro MD5SUM =) |
| 17:52.10 | Matrix110 | well I got noscript + Adblock so I cant really vouch for the banners but the torrent I got is clean :P |
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| 17:52.23 | KriLL3|cell | I'm bored out of my mind |
| 17:52.32 | Matrix110 | and many others from this chan will confirm that |
| 17:52.51 | sb | yay for downloading 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 AGAIN :p |
| 17:52.56 | Matrix110 | idd |
| 17:53.07 | Matrix110 | somehow my 3.0.1 -> 3.0.2 got deleted |
| 17:53.17 | sb | <3 fileplanet :p |
| 17:53.21 | sb | 5min download |
| 17:53.26 | Matrix110 | but atleast when I downloaded it again i got fullspeed |
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| 18:02.06 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik * r39 / (6 files in 2 directories): embedded LibRock* |
| 18:02.07 | Repo | prepared for Northrend? |
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| 18:04.04 | NeoTron | I like the confident patch note |
| 18:04.14 | hanzzon | hi, been out of the loop for about a year, is Cartographer Fishing, Herbalism, Mining and Treasure no longer available? |
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| 18:04.36 | p4aved | deprciated |
| 18:04.43 | p4aved | however its spelt |
| 18:04.43 | Primer | "deprecated" |
| 18:04.46 | SunTsu | hanzzon: Use GatherMate |
| 18:04.50 | p4aved | i'm bad :/ |
| 18:04.53 | Primer | you are |
| 18:05.51 | hanzzon | p4aved: ok, so it's been dropped by Cartographer entirely? (i.e. look for a new addon?) |
| 18:05.55 | Pneumatus | and GatherMate_Data for all of the node info from wowhead |
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| 18:07.02 | SunTsu | hanzzon: GatherMate/GatherMate_Data and you are map addon independent. Routes adds great, too |
| 18:07.14 | asmodai | ~wowalert |
| 18:07.14 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US), http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) |
| 18:07.22 | pompy | ughh.. in the addons dialog in teh char select screen .. the "config addons for:" .. (then theres a drop down) .. does it always have 'all' selected to whatever character u select when u login? |
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| 18:08.07 | hanzzon | SunTsu: already downloaded, thnx. Importing my old database will that not be needed? (from Cartographer) |
| 18:08.07 | SunTsu | hanzzon: Routes is the successor to Cart_Routes |
| 18:08.20 | SunTsu | hanzzon: No, but you can if you like to |
| 18:08.40 | Primer | Anyone know wtf is the deal with arena now? |
| 18:08.44 | Pneumatus | and TomTom is an alternative to cart_waypoints |
| 18:08.50 | Repo | 10talented_data: 03jerry 04v3.0.3-9183-release-1 * r168 : Tagging as v3.0.3-9183-release-1 |
| 18:09.01 | Primer | I mean, I had played 10 games to put me over 1875 points, with enough rating to get pvp pants |
| 18:09.04 | Primer | S4 |
| 18:09.14 | Primer | and now my 2's team is GONE |
| 18:09.17 | Primer | not reset...gone |
| 18:09.25 | Pneumatus | arenas ended, teams were wiped and no points were given, which was announced weeks ago |
| 18:09.37 | Primer | I got points though |
| 18:09.44 | Primer | between last weekend and now |
| 18:09.46 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v1.9.3-beta1 * r339 : Tagging as v1.9.3-beta1 |
| 18:09.48 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 18:10.07 | pentium166 | you would have had to log on after calculation and before maintenance to get your pants :\ |
| 18:10.31 | Primer | I waited until 2:30 for points to assess and they never did |
| 18:10.35 | Primer | 2:30 AM |
| 18:10.42 | hanzzon | thanks, I also see MobInfo-2 is not supported anymore, any good alternative for that? |
| 18:11.05 | Primer | I'm pissed because I bought a fucking runic spellthread in anticipation of being able to buy the pants |
| 18:11.13 | Pneumatus | mobinfo2 is still going |
| 18:11.17 | Primer | I wanted to hit Northrend in full S4 |
| 18:11.25 | Primer | (except for shoulders and weapon) |
| 18:11.53 | hanzzon | Pneumatus: thnx, found it now =) |
| 18:12.01 | Pneumatus | well, theres a ressurection version, i think |
| 18:13.22 | Pneumatus | Primer: mana is cheaper than life on your realm? :o |
| 18:13.40 | hanzzon | man, Blizzard really should lern to press CD's, first CD of the original took about 30 minutes to copy, then the expension, I think the third or fourth CD same thing, now Wrath of The Litch King DVD I've been installing for like an hour!! |
| 18:14.23 | Ithato | hanzzon: for one, the data therein is heavily (note i did not say "efficiently") compressed |
| 18:14.49 | dodga | 90%! |
| 18:14.57 | NeoTron | wow my gmail spam folder had 17000 mails |
| 18:15.03 | NeoTron | and they auto-delete after 30 days |
| 18:15.11 | Ithato | NeoTron: holy carp! |
| 18:15.13 | Primer | Pneumatus: no |
| 18:15.14 | hanzzon | Ithato: well, CPU load is about 0% so can't be that hard to decompress :P |
| 18:15.15 | NeoTron | 566 per day :P |
| 18:15.28 | hanzzon | dodga: 95% actually =) |
| 18:15.39 | Pneumatus | Primer: why not buy golden spellthread then? :P |
| 18:15.47 | dodga | hanzzon: hehe :D |
| 18:15.55 | Primer | Pneumatus: bah, forgot that it's all spellpower now |
| 18:15.57 | Primer | good point |
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| 18:16.19 | Pneumatus | yeh, they are both identical now |
| 18:16.23 | hanzzon | just waiting for the "CRC Check Failed" error message... |
| 18:16.35 | Pneumatus | but one will cost more than the other, due to primal price differences, usually |
| 18:16.42 | dodga | it's kinda annoying that the LK installer only plays sound when in foreground :/ |
| 18:16.56 | dodga | but it's kool that it tells the story of Arthas, even though it's text only |
| 18:17.22 | hanzzon | dodga: yea, brought back some memories of Warcraft3! |
| 18:17.37 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik * r40 / (3 files in 2 directories): fixed libs |
| 18:17.37 | Ithato | dodga: you find it annoying to not get sound when it's not focused? |
| 18:18.17 | Ithato | i can't say i enjoy blizz's music that much |
| 18:18.19 | dodga | Ithato: I'd prefer an option, yea |
| 18:18.25 | hanzzon | there, install finnished, now only a 600mb patch to download :/ |
| 18:19.39 | hanzzon | and upgrade account of course, which gives this error message; HTTP Status 403 - Access to the specified resource () has been forbidden. |
| 18:19.41 | dodga | last 10% are the longest :D |
| 18:19.49 | hanzzon | Not much have changed in the year I was gone I see :P |
| 18:20.10 | NeoTron | hanzzon: you'd figure they would have scaled properly since the whole BC upgrade fiascos :P |
| 18:20.58 | Ithato | NeoTron: I hardly think blizzard has trouble scaling, what with 11mil subs |
| 18:21.09 | hanzzon | wow-europe says "account upgrade site will be available evening nov 12:th |
| 18:21.29 | hanzzon | looks out Windows, looks pretty dark to me, must mean it's midday then? :P |
| 18:22.09 | dodga | well, in Germany it's 19:22 :> |
| 18:22.34 | dodga | hehe the installer names all files it touches blabla.temp :D |
| 18:22.41 | asmodai | and a nice time it is |
| 18:23.12 | dodga | 95%! |
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| 18:23.45 | Repo | 10smartmount: 03akazik 04v3.0-41 * r41 : Tagging as v3.0-41 |
| 18:23.48 | sb | dodga: still installing wotlk? |
| 18:23.56 | dodga | yeah |
| 18:23.59 | sb | wtf :o |
| 18:24.08 | sb | i started 5 minutes ago and now its 71% |
| 18:24.22 | Ithato | I wonder if my SATA DVD drive will have any better luck with the installer tonight |
| 18:24.30 | durcyn | gah, stupid windows update caused my box to reboot in the middle of downloading, now blizzard flips the kill bit and it won't resume =( |
| 18:24.30 | dodga | took 10 minutes from 90% to 96%... |
| 18:24.41 | sb | okay :p |
| 18:24.44 | dodga | funniest thing was that XP did not detect my DVD rom as DVD rom |
| 18:24.59 | dodga | had to haxxor the registry to make it realize it really is a DVD rom |
| 18:26.07 | dodga | finished! |
| 18:26.17 | dodga | kek it installs the patches I already downloaded :D |
| 18:26.29 | sb | ah, 100%, finally :p |
| 18:26.40 | dodga | ARGH |
| 18:26.44 | dodga | deDE Win Update |
| 18:26.48 | hanzzon | is blizzards tracker no longer accepting clients other than it's own? Seems µTorrent is only finding peers via DHT? |
| 18:26.50 | dodga | Die german version, DIE! |
| 18:26.58 | asmodai | ok |
| 18:27.04 | asmodai | either my connection has issues |
| 18:27.08 | asmodai | or my realm just went *poof* |
| 18:27.21 | sb | dodga: mh, strange |
| 18:27.38 | dodga | ah anyway, was 10 mb, already finished |
| 18:27.56 | Repo | 10ld50_abar: 03shaten * r56 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 18:27.57 | Repo | LD50_abar: |
| 18:27.57 | Repo | - Fully Converted to Ace3 |
| 18:27.59 | Repo | - Added all sorts of new UI markups |
| 18:28.00 | cncfanatics | asmodai: I'll go for the later |
| 18:28.02 | Repo | - Tested for expansion |
| 18:28.28 | Repo | 10ld50_ap: 03shaten * r42 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 18:28.29 | Repo | LD50_ap: |
| 18:28.30 | Repo | - Fully Converted to Ace3 |
| 18:28.31 | Repo | - Added all sorts of new UI markups |
| 18:28.32 | Primer | argh, I'm fucking pissed |
| 18:28.35 | Repo | - Tested for expansion |
| 18:28.37 | Primer | I'm going to open a GM ticket |
| 18:28.39 | balstor | so happy done with this ace3 conversion :) |
| 18:29.04 | Primer | and bug them until I get something from them |
| 18:29.09 | Repo | 10ld50_armor: 03shaten * r36 / (3 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 18:29.09 | Repo | LD50_armor: |
| 18:29.10 | Repo | - Fully Converted to Ace3 |
| 18:29.12 | Repo | - Added all sorts of new UI markups |
| 18:29.12 | Primer | can't just delete your fucking arena teams |
| 18:29.16 | Repo | - Tested for expansion |
| 18:29.40 | cncfanatics | yes you can |
| 18:29.47 | Repo | 10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r14 GlassUnitFrames.lua: Fix to Player Cast Bar when anchored to Player Frame. |
| 18:29.47 | cncfanatics | the command for it is anoying & hard to remember though |
| 18:30.01 | Repo | 10ld50_armor: 03shaten * r37 Changes.txt: LD50_armor: |
| 18:30.02 | Repo | - v3.3 notes |
| 18:30.07 | hanzzon | In my everlasting quest for very important addons is there any updated alternative to FuBar_SpeedFu? |
| 18:30.27 | Repo | 10ld50_ap: 03shaten * r43 Changes.txt: LD50_ap: |
| 18:30.28 | Repo | - v3.3 notes |
| 18:31.36 | Repo | 10ld50_abar: 03shaten * r57 Changes.txt: LD50_abar: |
| 18:31.37 | Repo | - v3.3 changes |
| 18:31.46 | Repo | 10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r15 GlassUnitFrames.toc: FFix to Player Cast Bar when anchored to Player Frame. |
| 18:32.32 | Primer | hanzzon: what's wrong with it? |
| 18:32.43 | Primer | I understand that it has been updated |
| 18:32.54 | Primer | as I steal code from it :) |
| 18:33.16 | Repo | 10ld50_abar: 03shaten 04Release 3.3 * r58 : Tagging as Release 3.3 |
| 18:33.38 | hanzzon | Primer: TOC reads 20300? |
| 18:33.55 | hanzzon | at files.wowace.com/FuBar_SpeedFu/ |
| 18:34.07 | Repo | 10ld50_ap: 03shaten 04Release 3.3 * r44 : Tagging as Release 3.3 |
| 18:34.20 | ulic | files.wowace.com has been dead for ages now :) |
| 18:34.49 | Primer | hanzzon: files is deprecated |
| 18:34.58 | Repo | 10ld50_armor: 03shaten 04Release 3.3 * r38 : Tagging as Release 3.3 |
| 18:35.08 | hanzzon | ulic: "Last Login: 17 October 07 20:30 CEST" =) please enlighten me ;-) |
| 18:35.17 | Primer | www.curse.com |
| 18:35.45 | ulic | hanzzon: http://files.wowace.com/ |
| 18:36.09 | hanzzon | haha, thnx, google is evul sometimes |
| 18:36.40 | hanzzon | and so is couse own search engine because it did not find SpeedFu :/ |
| 18:37.52 | ulic | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fubar_speedfu.aspx |
| 18:38.07 | hanzzon | yea, I did find it via google eventually, thnx |
| 18:38.18 | ulic | dunno why the search fails, that's not good. |
| 18:38.51 | Primer | blames mysql |
| 18:38.53 | ulic | searching FuBar_SpeedFu works |
| 18:39.28 | ulic | blames coders no programing for limitation that might exist in their choice of db, it's not the db's fault :) |
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| 18:39.47 | Repo | 10glassunitframes: 03h3nrym2 * r16 GlassUnitFrames.lua: Fix to Player Cast Bar when anchored to Player Frame. |
| 18:41.00 | hanzzon | man, downloading the WoW patches with µTorrent is so much better, 1MB/sec maxing my 8mbps connection! |
| 18:41.46 | hanzzon | lol, my fastest peers with the Blizzard downloader are doing 100kb/sec :P |
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| 18:42.47 | hanzzon | and there it's DONE! |
| 18:42.59 | leech2k | how are u getting them to �Torrent? |
| 18:43.16 | [dRaCo] | the blizz downloader caches its torrents |
| 18:43.22 | leech2k | o |
| 18:43.25 | [dRaCo] | in the cache dir, obviously |
| 18:43.34 | leech2k | I will have to take a look :-) |
| 18:43.37 | [dRaCo] | run the downloader to get the torrent |
| 18:43.51 | [dRaCo] | exit it, open the torrent somewhere else |
| 18:44.19 | hanzzon | no, I use a HEX editor on the WoW-3.0.1-to-3.0.2-enGB-Win-Update-downloader.exe, paste everything from "D8:ANNOUNCE" > EOF into a new .torrent file and load in your favorite torrent app... |
| 18:45.54 | nocts | Or you can just extract it. Plenty of tools for it. |
| 18:48.14 | yoshimo | could you install the english wotlkbeta on a german client without the languagepack? |
| 18:49.43 | vhaarr | so, I downloaded wow-wotlk-eu.iso at 7.7gb and mount -o loop wow-wotlk-eu.iso /media/iso works, but it doesn't list all the files |
| 18:49.46 | hanzzon | just because I'm such a jolly nice guy here is the enGB 3.0.1 > 3.0.2 torrent for you guys... http://hem.spray.se/hanzzzon/WoW-3.0.1-to-3.0.2-enGB-Win-Update-downloader.torrent |
| 18:50.02 | vhaarr | file says it's just a "data" file, and file-roller says it's not a valid ISO archive |
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| 18:50.44 | hanzzon | vhaarr: on my DVD all files are hidden except "installer.exe" and the directx dir |
| 18:50.49 | vhaarr | yeah same here |
| 18:50.53 | vhaarr | hm |
| 18:52.03 | vhaarr | wtf |
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| 18:53.10 | vhaarr | after I do 'sudo mount' it, it says it's owned by user id 501 in the group "dialout", what the fuck |
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| 18:53.22 | AckisWork | @seen xinhuan |
| 18:53.28 | AckisWork | ~seen xinhuan |
| 18:53.34 | purl | xinhuan <i=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 2d 20h 44m 29s ago, saying: 'of course, i never did'. |
| 18:53.45 | AckisWork | hmm hope he's ok |
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| 18:53.53 | ulic | vhaarr: do you mind if I use NRT as base code, and then tweak it for my guild? It won't be distributed except to my guild, and of course I'd still give you credit. |
| 18:54.03 | vhaarr | ulic: not at all |
| 18:54.09 | vhaarr | tell me what you want to modify? |
| 18:54.17 | vhaarr | perhaps you can just add it directly to the codebase |
| 18:55.24 | vhaarr | grrr and of course the acetoneiso website is down |
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| 18:56.45 | ulic | well actually removing some stuff, like attendance, more need the loot tracking stuff, and then some menu execs to spam vent info and loot rules and such. Some of those option could be generic I suppose, but might be outside of the scope of your project. |
| 18:57.15 | vhaarr | well the attendance stuff can be turned off already |
| 18:57.28 | vhaarr | just turn off "On boss kill" |
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| 18:58.59 | ulic | I was just gonna rip it out so I don't have to tell my guildies that might run raids how to do it, but I might play with it more before I start hacking, figure I've got several months before my small guild is even raid for LK raids. |
| 18:59.02 | hanzzon | and here is the enGB 3.0.2 > 3.0.3 torrent if you want it; http://hem.spray.se/hanzzzon/WoW-3.0.2.9056-to-3.0.3.9183-enGB-downloader.torrent |
| 19:00.04 | AckisWork | vhaarr: you have comments disabled for bugsack... tickets also, there was a wowace report regarding bugsack, where do you want it? |
| 19:00.06 | vhaarr | ulic: right, well do as you please |
| 19:00.12 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r696 Data/Priest.lua: DrDamage: |
| 19:00.13 | Repo | - Fixed a typo in Priest.lua |
| 19:00.27 | sacarasc | hanzzon: the torrents and direct download links were available from http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors already :D |
| 19:00.59 | hanzzon | haha, okies ;-) |
| 19:01.00 | ulic | vhaarr: if vent info or loot rules being printed to raid chat aren't outside the scope I can add those. |
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| 19:01.22 | ulic | I just know you guys like to keep stuff in scope :) |
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| 19:03.13 | dodga | hm |
| 19:03.18 | dodga | account upgrade page workie? |
| 19:03.30 | Krames | i believe so. |
| 19:04.04 | hanzzon | seems so |
| 19:04.44 | dodga | BAM upgraded |
| 19:05.02 | vhaarr | EU upgrade page gives me the burning crusade upgrade |
| 19:05.08 | vhaarr | you're talking about US right? |
| 19:05.22 | hanzzon | eu |
| 19:05.33 | ulic | sniff sniff, US doesn't even have the game yet. |
| 19:05.38 | cncfanatics | nor do we |
| 19:05.39 | cncfanatics | its 8pm |
| 19:05.43 | ulic | unless you shop at 7-11 |
| 19:05.49 | hanzzon | "Congratulations! You have successfully upgraded this World of Warcraft account." yeeeeehaaaw! |
| 19:06.02 | cncfanatics | meh |
| 19:06.09 | cncfanatics | .setlevel 68 |
| 19:06.31 | yoshimo | the site is open in europe *cheer* |
| 19:06.36 | dodga | nope |
| 19:06.38 | dodga | europe |
| 19:06.44 | dodga | wow-europe.com, top button |
| 19:06.49 | yoshimo | https://upgrade.wow-europe.com/installer/ |
| 19:07.27 | ulic | https://upgrade.worldofwarcraft.com/installer/ |
| 19:09.13 | vhaarr | ah cool, could upgrade now |
| 19:10.09 | Funkeh` | mozilla are really doing their deal |
| 19:10.19 | Funkeh` | latest minefield gets 92 in acid3 |
| 19:10.39 | Funkeh` | "maybe one day" |
| 19:11.23 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: strange, mine gets 91/100 :P |
| 19:11.35 | vhaarr | probably due to some weird user stylesheets or javascript I have enabled |
| 19:12.00 | Aeyan| | You guys getting your nightly off the main tree or is it some community build? |
| 19:12.04 | asmodai | funny that they opened it sooner |
| 19:12.07 | Funkeh` | well, my point was 3.0 was scoring in the 70's or something |
| 19:12.11 | Funkeh` | so it's a reasonable leap |
| 19:12.14 | vhaarr | Aeyan|: main tree |
| 19:12.39 | Funkeh` | I just got the nightly off ftp 5sec ago |
| 19:12.47 | vhaarr | don't have to download it from ftp |
| 19:12.51 | vhaarr | the nightly builds update themselves |
| 19:12.53 | NeoTron | Funkeh`: I am curious though, if you get 100 in acid3... will taht make my life better? :P |
| 19:12.58 | vhaarr | download once, then update incrementally |
| 19:13.13 | Funkeh` | NeoTron, higher numbers my friend |
| 19:13.25 | NeoTron | or does it simply mean I'll be able to enjoy acid3 in its full glory? :) |
| 19:13.27 | Funkeh` | we don't know wtf it will do but we know it's beter! |
| 19:13.33 | vhaarr | so, should I install wrath over my old wow folder? |
| 19:13.41 | Bruners | was there not a FF that got 100/100 ? |
| 19:13.47 | vhaarr | or do I get a choice? |
| 19:13.54 | nevcairiel | i dont think you get a choice |
| 19:13.58 | NeoTron | vhaarr: don't think there's a choice, it needs the old data |
| 19:14.03 | vhaarr | right, still extracting the iso so |
| 19:14.31 | Primer | Anyone have authoritative md5's for the WotLK installer files? |
| 19:14.35 | Funkeh` | it's a good thing we still get all the api and whatnot for non-wotlk since I won't be getting it for a while it seems |
| 19:14.38 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r178 TradeskillInfoUI/TradeskillInfoUI.lua: - Remove a stray Ace2 call |
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| 19:17.50 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r22 sounds (4 files in 1 directory): Removed file/folder |
| 19:18.48 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r407 CoT/BlackMorass.lua: Fix for Mages spell stealing Temporus' Hasten |
| 19:20.43 | Primer | Anyone here with the official wotlk dvd willing to post md5 sums of the files? |
| 19:20.50 | Primer | the US one, that is |
| 19:21.04 | NivFreak | sure |
| 19:21.21 | Primer | thanks |
| 19:21.25 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r23 sounds/brainfreeze.mp3: Added a file remotely |
| 19:21.26 | NivFreak | give me a file list |
| 19:21.29 | NivFreak | I'll give you md5s |
| 19:21.34 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r24 sounds/fingeroffrost.mp3: Added a file remotely |
| 19:21.42 | Primer | Installer Tome* |
| 19:21.45 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r25 sounds/hotstreak.mp3: Added a file remotely |
| 19:21.45 | NivFreak | k |
| 19:21.52 | Primer | Installer.exe |
| 19:21.53 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r26 sounds/missilebarrage.mp3: Added a file remotely |
| 19:22.05 | Primer | Movies.mpq |
| 19:22.25 | Primer | Someone should tell that dude how to commit multiple files at the same time |
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| 19:22.36 | NivFreak | or yank his access |
| 19:23.29 | cncfanatics | ding 35 \o/ |
| 19:23.42 | NivFreak | 899bdcd09765a5df2e9c67778d9b439a Installer Tome 2.mpq |
| 19:24.06 | Primer | check |
| 19:24.11 | NivFreak | zzz |
| 19:24.14 | hanzzon | is there any updated alternative to EQCompare? |
| 19:24.15 | NivFreak | go faster md5sum! |
| 19:24.31 | Primer | â |
| 19:24.31 | NivFreak | 9811ef42e8b57e1d5dcd87bdb8f48ffb Installer Tome 3.mpq |
| 19:24.48 | Primer | â |
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| 19:26.05 | NivFreak | 04b148c2e256e7ccb4f3c9374e2330eb Installer Tome 4.mpq |
| 19:26.05 | NivFreak | 4e7ceae3e4ba368ba5c785eec52f02fb Installer Tome 5.mpq |
| 19:26.05 | NivFreak | dbd3726d5537f78928d3d84e358ca084 Installer Tome.mpq |
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| 19:26.25 | Jaxon | md5 hashes of Wrath mpqs? |
| 19:26.26 | SunTsu | hanzzon: Take tekkompare |
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| 19:26.43 | crookfingerjake | hanzzon: or equipcompare |
| 19:26.45 | Primer | â â â |
| 19:26.53 | NivFreak | Jaxon: yea |
| 19:26.57 | NivFreak | 3b0b7e46d02245db49e8a2bed065199f Movies.mpq |
| 19:27.01 | yoshimo | >was there a patch that updates a vanilla betaclient to 3.03? |
| 19:27.12 | NivFreak | d914ea4cdc95d9cf83f2fdc6c01c8f65 Installer.exe |
| 19:27.17 | NivFreak | Primer: any others? |
| 19:27.31 | Primer | I believe that should do it. Thanks! |
| 19:27.34 | NivFreak | np |
| 19:30.40 | hanzzon | SunTsu: wow, thnx, 3kb will be hard to beat! |
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| 19:32.55 | Chosi | looo |
| 19:33.02 | Chosi | is there a replacement for TSI+UI? |
| 19:37.23 | Jaxon | So I specced Marksman last night. |
| 19:37.31 | Jaxon | Then managed to empty my mana bar faster than ever before. |
| 19:37.36 | Jaxon | Also, this isn't my guild channel. |
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| 19:38.52 | Bruners | Jaxon: just use aspect of the viper |
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| 19:39.12 | Jaxon | Bruners: yeah, but do I really want to be switching aspects every 30-40 seconds? |
| 19:39.21 | Bruners | Jaxon: not really but thats the only option |
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| 19:39.43 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r68 : - Performance tweaking |
| 19:39.44 | Repo | - Fix an intermittent error in ButtonFacade support |
| 19:39.44 | Repo | - Tag to v3.0.2 |
| 19:39.48 | Repo | 10simple-soulstone: 03vaeyl * r54 SimpleSoulstone.lua: fixed small issue with display |
| 19:39.52 | Jaxon | I think I'll still level as survival, just wanted to try out Chimera shot and see if 50 focus on crit would help my pet threat. (not enough) |
| 19:40.00 | Bruners | Jaxon: it only nerfs you with 50% dammage |
| 19:40.02 | Jaxon | I do like all the crit talents in MM now though. |
| 19:40.50 | Matrix110 | http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6140/wotlkfailla4.jpg someone from my guild with a E8400 got it :D |
| 19:42.06 | Jaxon | "only" 50% |
| 19:42.12 | Bruners | Jaxon: :) |
| 19:42.13 | Jaxon | Yeah, and 40% with the glyph when I get that. |
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| 19:42.34 | Bruners | Jaxon: and another 10% if you are BM |
| 19:42.52 | Jaxon | The only BM spec I might try doesn't have the 51 point talent. |
| 19:43.21 | Bruners | i dont see that the last point is worth it yet |
| 19:43.35 | Jaxon | 4 extra pet talent points though. |
| 19:43.48 | Jaxon | I know a tank pet could put them to good use, even better if the pet taunt wasn't on a 3 minute cooldown. |
| 19:43.53 | Repo | 10ag_pimpster: 03kagaro * r34 ag_Pimpster.lua: |
| 19:43.53 | Repo | ag_Pimpster: change offset code again so stuff doesnt fly way off screen |
| 19:44.16 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r69 : This is a commit message. Die now. |
| 19:44.38 | Bruners | Jaxon: a tank pet, sure |
| 19:44.55 | Repo | 10ag_pimpster: 03kagaro 04v0.89 * r35 : Tagging as v0.89 |
| 19:44.55 | Bruners | Jaxon: but its not like you are going to have your pet tank all the time :P |
| 19:44.56 | Repo | Justification repair work. |
| 19:45.10 | Jaxon | Bruners: I'd like to be able to tank 5 mans at 80 with it. |
| 19:45.16 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r27 magealert.toc: new rev |
| 19:46.41 | alcaras_ | Tekkub: around? getting an 'attempt to concatenate a nil value on every pane but disenchanting with Panda |
| 19:47.06 | alcaras_ | Tekkub: not an error, just a pop up message; nothing displays in the panes |
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| 19:51.48 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r70 : - Performance tweaking |
| 19:51.48 | Repo | - Fix an intermittent error in ButtonFacade support |
| 19:51.49 | Repo | - Tag to v3.0.2 |
| 19:51.53 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r71 : delete message |
| 19:52.20 | cncfanatics | anyone can suggest me an addon that makes the talent panes show side by side ? (not talented, I just need stuff to show side by side, not all the extra features) |
| 19:52.59 | Lukian | just use Talented :p |
| 19:53.59 | cncfanatics | no ? :p |
| 19:54.10 | odt | what's a good xp/h tracker for fubar or that bword thing |
| 19:54.32 | cncfanatics | bword thing :o |
| 19:54.37 | cncfanatics | thats an ownage new name for brocker :p |
| 19:54.39 | odt | b something |
| 19:54.41 | odt | ye |
| 19:55.08 | Primer | cncfanatics: I suggest Talented |
| 19:55.35 | cncfanatics | ~lart Primer |
| 19:55.35 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Primer feel it |
| 19:55.43 | Lukian | Talented saves you 50g everytime you'd misclick :p |
| 19:55.53 | Primer | yup |
| 19:55.54 | cncfanatics | its also buggy |
| 19:56.02 | Primer | hasn't been for me... |
| 19:56.03 | Lukian | fix it then |
| 19:56.08 | Lukian | works fine for me |
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| 19:56.22 | cncfanatics | the arrows sometimes fade |
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| 19:56.36 | cncfanatics | but meh, its not like I got much of a choice |
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| 19:58.36 | asmodai | oww |
| 19:58.39 | asmodai | they shipped me copy |
| 19:58.45 | asmodai | so that ought to be here tomorrow |
| 19:59.16 | asmodai | ah |
| 19:59.26 | cncfanatics | \o/ |
| 19:59.29 | cncfanatics | second tigress kill in stv |
| 19:59.33 | cncfanatics | and there is my pristine fang |
| 19:59.38 | alcaras_ | I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but I find something clunky about Talented |
| 20:00.03 | Lukian | it locks you out of doing anything else at the same time? ;) |
| 20:00.09 | alcaras_ | Nonetheless, I use it because there's nothing better, but I must confess I don't bother saving templates... I just import from WoWhead and then learn that way |
| 20:00.20 | alcaras_ | Lukian: No, more so the way it saves templates |
| 20:00.24 | cncfanatics | some day I'll just make tripple wide :p |
| 20:00.32 | Lukian | alcaras, oh, yes that was buggy atm |
| 20:00.43 | Lukian | deleting them and such gave lua errors |
| 20:00.47 | Lukian | at least they are by class now |
| 20:00.49 | yoshimo | mhm im lost in the wowforums, where shall i report a bug with some mobs&npcs? |
| 20:00.52 | Lukian | so it's not much of an issue |
| 20:00.57 | alcaras_ | Lukian: not just that, but the navigating dropdown menus was just painful |
| 20:01.06 | alcaras_ | but they implemented import from wowhead, so was happy |
| 20:01.07 | Lukian | alcaras, hmm true, you get used to it though |
| 20:01.09 | asmodai | AckisWork: you around? |
| 20:01.13 | alcaras_ | since i just use wowhead import instead |
| 20:01.18 | AckisWork | asmodai: oui |
| 20:01.20 | Lukian | it's also had import for wowhead (except in the first 3.0 build) |
| 20:01.33 | asmodai | AckisWork: I got an error with recent arl |
| 20:01.34 | alcaras_ | aye, that build i remember :p |
| 20:01.36 | asmodai | is this a typo: |
| 20:01.38 | alcaras_ | i went through all the menus looking for import |
| 20:01.44 | asmodai | ARLDataminer.rb: "Scarlet Monastery" => "Scarlet Monestary", |
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| 20:02.03 | AckisWork | asmodai: uhh yes it is |
| 20:02.21 | Tristanian | drycode error imo |
| 20:02.24 | Tristanian | :p |
| 20:02.24 | asmodai | AckisWork: Monastary -> Monastery ? |
| 20:02.53 | alcaras_ | Tekkub: correction, i just didn't have bugsack installed; it is a lua error: Panda-Alpha\tekAucQuery.lua:9: attempt to index field 'Appraiser' (a nil value) |
| 20:03.33 | AckisWork | asmodai: fixing now |
| 20:04.31 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1054 ARLDataminer.rb: Typo fix. Tehehe |
| 20:06.02 | asmodai | AckisWork: grrr, now I couldn't test the svn again :P |
| 20:06.26 | cncfanatics | ~ackis |
| 20:06.26 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, ackis is a person who can code, but just doesn't know how to type. |
| 20:06.35 | cncfanatics | win \o/ |
| 20:06.43 | alcaras_ | ~alcaras |
| 20:06.44 | purl | alcaras is probably the author of Warmath and maintains AlcUI @ http://subcreation.net/alcui/ |
| 20:06.51 | alcaras_ | only a bit out of date |
| 20:07.05 | AckisWork | :P |
| 20:07.25 | Jaxon | ~jaxon |
| 20:07.29 | Jaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.42 | cncfanatics | fail |
| 20:08.50 | Jaxon | Agreed. |
| 20:08.51 | cncfanatics | purl, jaxon is an epic failure |
| 20:08.52 | purl | okay, cncfanatics |
| 20:08.55 | cncfanatics | ~jaxon |
| 20:08.55 | purl | [jaxon] an epic failure |
| 20:08.56 | cncfanatics | there |
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| 20:10.37 | hanzzon | "Before we can set sail to Northrend we've got to eliminate our pest problem aboard the Assurance" |
| 20:10.43 | hanzzon | ORLY? |
| 20:11.00 | Tristanian | what's that ? rats ? |
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| 20:12.08 | hanzzon | no idea! |
| 20:12.14 | vhaarr | overtime pay for the pest control guy paying a visit there at midnight, he'll have a nice christmas |
| 20:12.20 | Tristanian | good excuse though :p |
| 20:12.52 | vhaarr | with all this scourge stuff it's weird that noone has established a business to sell cures, working and fake ones |
| 20:13.08 | Bruners | i spirit still crap for paladins? |
| 20:13.10 | vhaarr | you'd think players would get mail-order catalogues offering "special prices" on scourge infestation cures |
| 20:13.22 | vhaarr | Bruners: no |
| 20:13.38 | hanzzon | "The Assurance has somehow become inundated with bugs and we are unable to set sail to Northrend" |
| 20:13.49 | Bruners | *is |
| 20:13.54 | Tristanian | patch the bugs then |
| 20:14.06 | Repo | 10magealert: 03yheen * r28 magealert.toc: rev 28 |
| 20:14.09 | hanzzon | debug it already! |
| 20:14.46 | Tristanian | I hear their debugger is slow, its gonna take a couple of hours :p |
| 20:15.09 | cncfanatics | you can't say blizz has no sense of humor :p |
| 20:15.24 | cncfanatics | I wonder how blizz stops ppl without expansion to go to northrend though |
| 20:15.29 | cncfanatics | not let em enter zeppelin / ship ? |
| 20:15.40 | vhaarr | zeppeling guards kill them |
| 20:15.44 | vhaarr | haha |
| 20:15.45 | Tristanian | you'll prolly get a port to the dock and a message |
| 20:15.56 | vhaarr | -g |
| 20:16.07 | hanzzon | you get the messages I posted above ;-) |
| 20:16.09 | cncfanatics | I'll go for the guard killing theory |
| 20:16.13 | hanzzon | ship ain't leaving |
| 20:16.19 | Tristanian | if they wanted realism they should sink the first couple of ships, I bet they are gonna be full |
| 20:16.35 | Bruners | hehe |
| 20:16.39 | cncfanatics | very few will be on realms at midnight sharp |
| 20:16.50 | cncfanatics | need to install & patch, in theorie :p |
| 20:17.08 | Tristanian | not even sure its gonna open at midnight sharp :P |
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| 20:17.14 | vhaarr | it better |
| 20:17.17 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r72 / (50 files in 7 directories): import message |
| 20:17.28 | Tristanian | will prolly take a while, barring the usual world server crashes |
| 20:17.31 | Tristanian | queues etc |
| 20:17.43 | Tristanian | there will be blood... |
| 20:17.50 | vhaarr | oh yes, the world server will be down for ~8 hours at least |
| 20:17.50 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r73 : go away |
| 20:17.58 | vhaarr | but it better open at midnight anyway :p |
| 20:18.05 | Tristanian | aye |
| 20:18.06 | Jaxon | I don't know, TBC didn't bring down world servers. |
| 20:18.15 | Tristanian | well true that |
| 20:18.15 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r74 : go away |
| 20:18.17 | Jaxon | At least not on Deathwing |
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| 20:18.29 | NeoTron | it was slow as hell though |
| 20:18.36 | Tristanian | also true |
| 20:18.43 | NeoTron | but as a DK it won't be that bad |
| 20:18.53 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r75 / (50 files in 7 directories): import message |
| 20:18.54 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r76 : - Performance tweaking |
| 20:18.55 | Tristanian | at some point you couldnt even find the mobs to kill |
| 20:18.55 | Repo | - Fix an intermittent error in ButtonFacade support |
| 20:18.55 | NeoTron | I mean HFP with DK's only vs every single player can't be too horrible |
| 20:18.56 | Repo | - Tag to v3.0.2 |
| 20:18.56 | Tristanian | :P |
| 20:19.00 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r77 : go away |
| 20:19.01 | hanzzon | TBC brought down Arathor, HARD |
| 20:19.13 | NeoTron | how long until the EU launch? |
| 20:19.24 | vhaarr | NeoTron: will suck finding a healer for instances :p |
| 20:19.24 | Tristanian | aprox. 3 hours Neo |
| 20:20.02 | NeoTron | vhaarr: indeed. gone are the days when a couple of blood DK's could heal the raid (probably >:-) |
| 20:20.08 | vhaarr | ^^ |
| 20:20.12 | Tristanian | heh |
| 20:20.15 | vhaarr | hopefully! |
| 20:20.17 | NeoTron | but I won't do much instancing pre-northrend most likely |
| 20:20.26 | NeoTron | and I meant party not raid :P |
| 20:20.29 | Tristanian | its not worth it |
| 20:20.35 | Tristanian | just quest it all the way |
| 20:20.40 | NeoTron | in northrend I'm making my guild buddies drag me through instances |
| 20:20.42 | Tristanian | more than enough to get you going |
| 20:20.52 | NeoTron | at least to do quests and give me my axe :P |
| 20:23.18 | Tristanian | lal some shops here are gonna sell it directly from trucks |
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| 20:23.27 | Tristanian | I predict...chaos |
| 20:24.03 | NeoTron | nice |
| 20:24.35 | Tristanian | I can picture it now, while some poor b@stard is selling to the masses, someone else goes out front and steals the truck |
| 20:24.40 | Tristanian | :p |
| 20:24.50 | Tristanian | with people chasing it |
| 20:24.52 | Tristanian | on foot |
| 20:26.00 | Fisker- | i have you now |
| 20:28.00 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r78 / (50 files in 7 directories): import message |
| 20:28.01 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2.0 * r79 : - Performance tweaking |
| 20:28.02 | Repo | - Fix an intermittent error in ButtonFacade support |
| 20:28.03 | Repo | - Tag to v3.0.2 |
| 20:28.07 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r80 : go away |
| 20:29.13 | Chosi | is there a replacement for TSI+UI? anyone? |
| 20:29.13 | Chosi | :) |
| 20:29.53 | Jaxon | I don't even kno wwhat that is. |
| 20:29.55 | Jaxon | So no, there isn't. |
| 20:30.03 | Chosi | tradeskillinfo |
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| 20:33.15 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1055 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 20:33.16 | Repo | Make the reputation miner only get those reps we care about (saves a bit of memory) |
| 20:34.58 | dodga | hmpf, no boat from menethil to howling fjord :( |
| 20:37.53 | alcaras_ | fjord is stormwind i think |
| 20:37.59 | alcaras_ | menethil is borean |
| 20:38.03 | asmodai | jeez, trying to join my guild on a BWL run |
| 20:38.07 | asmodai | and it keeps throwing me out |
| 20:38.09 | alcaras_ | uc <-> fjord, org <-> tundra |
| 20:38.20 | dodga | alcaras_: no boat from menethil to northrend :P |
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| 20:44.28 | asmodai | Must remember, patience... |
| 20:44.38 | asmodai | I rejoin instance, see initial screen after loading. |
| 20:44.43 | asmodai | BAM, disconnected from server |
| 20:44.49 | asmodai | 7 times by now |
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| 20:45.08 | cncfanatics | asmodai: GM ticket ftw |
| 20:47.16 | asmodai | according to a guildie it's a very old bug? |
| 20:47.21 | asmodai | where you get insta-DCd |
| 20:47.30 | asmodai | and Blizzard never managed to solve it |
| 20:47.35 | cncfanatics | idd |
| 20:47.40 | cncfanatics | it just happens sometimes |
| 20:47.44 | asmodai | That's, pardon my language, fucking lame. |
| 20:47.44 | Zyndrome | 21:34.20 ( alcaras_ ) fjord is stormwind i think |
| 20:47.44 | Zyndrome | 21:34.26 ( alcaras_ ) menethil is borean |
| 20:47.47 | cncfanatics | ask a GM to port you to somewhere else |
| 20:47.48 | Zyndrome | other way around, sir! |
| 20:48.05 | cncfanatics | asmodai: their reponse time for that kind of issues is very short |
| 20:48.11 | cncfanatics | 10 mins at most always for me |
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| 20:51.23 | asmodai | Yeah logged it. |
| 20:51.47 | asmodai | I'm just a bit miffed that they never fixed it adequately. |
| 20:52.01 | asmodai | Reminds me of the Altar/Stone of Tides quest |
| 20:52.04 | asmodai | and being bugged to hell |
| 20:54.12 | asmodai | Call me lame or stupid, but I don't see why BWL is different from the X other instances they have. |
| 20:58.30 | cncfanatics | can happen anywhere |
| 20:58.37 | cncfanatics | I had it in the mid of orgri once :p |
| 20:58.47 | cncfanatics | whenever I logged that char in, instadc |
| 21:01.26 | sb | hmm, is it possible to get the CE pet when you have already activated your account with the standard edition? |
| 21:01.34 | Jaxon | Don't believe so. |
| 21:01.38 | sb | damn |
| 21:01.43 | Jaxon | Character with the pet tranferred to your account? |
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| 21:01.49 | Jaxon | The CE items are account bound. |
| 21:01.51 | sb | *sigh* |
| 21:01.54 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r81 : deleted bad tag |
| 21:02.04 | sb | not an option |
| 21:02.54 | asmodai | cncfanatics: suckage |
| 21:03.39 | Slayman | sb: this time it was actually clarified that you CANNOT activate CE when already upgraded with standard |
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| 21:04.29 | sb | k |
| 21:05.32 | Slayman | but it should be possible to snatch all 3 CEs and make an all CE Account, and on that you can get all the pets i think |
| 21:07.08 | Slayman | and transfer your nonCE chars to of course |
| 21:07.20 | Slayman | all it takes is a serious amount of moneyZ |
| 21:07.45 | Slayman | Why me? |
| 21:07.59 | Slayman | why do i have to share a token with 3 other classes? no fair! |
| 21:08.20 | Pneumatus | you also get 10% extra droprate on your tokens |
| 21:08.46 | Pneumatus | there's a blue post saying the tokens with 3 classes are 30% drop, and the token with 4 classes is 40% |
| 21:09.05 | Slayman | yeah but out of 10 man i have to share with at least 4 ppl |
| 21:09.27 | Pneumatus | taking 1 of every class to 10mans? :o |
| 21:09.47 | Slayman | yes <:p |
| 21:10.16 | Slayman | and another mage like me |
| 21:10.22 | many | bah. someone upgraded his/her account already and able to tell wether theres some possibility to download the update? |
| 21:10.28 | Slayman | or 2 dks one's a tank |
| 21:10.30 | NivFreak | many: which update |
| 21:10.40 | many | wrath/WLK |
| 21:10.42 | NivFreak | lol |
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| 21:10.43 | NivFreak | the expansion |
| 21:10.44 | Slayman | or 2 droods one heals one tanks |
| 21:10.45 | NivFreak | no |
| 21:10.51 | NivFreak | there's a link, but it does not work |
| 21:10.55 | many | lol |
| 21:11.54 | many | well it would have been nice to just skip the installation hassles tomorrow and have em done today |
| 21:12.21 | many | but i guess thats no fun for the blues |
| 21:12.43 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 21:12.50 | Stanzilla | first people on my realm are in borean tundra |
| 21:12.57 | Stanzilla | and we have a first death knight |
| 21:13.01 | Stanzilla | istn that a bit early? |
| 21:13.03 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r82 / (50 files in 7 directories): import message |
| 21:13.04 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2.1 * r83 : - Performance tweaking |
| 21:13.04 | Repo | - Fix an intermittent error in ButtonFacade support |
| 21:13.06 | Repo | - Tag to v3.0.2 |
| 21:13.10 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r84 : go away |
| 21:13.22 | NivFreak | many: they have enough problems keeping servers up atm |
| 21:13.27 | NivFreak | I got my copy yesteday from 7-11 |
| 21:13.28 | many | haha |
| 21:13.32 | Repo | 10loggerhead: 03rsmozang 04Loggerhead 3.0.80 * r81 : Tagging as Loggerhead 3.0.80 |
| 21:13.41 | many | yeah, my copy will be delivered tomorrow |
| 21:14.10 | NivFreak | so wtf |
| 21:14.17 | NivFreak | euro launch is first |
| 21:14.18 | NivFreak | boooo |
| 21:14.19 | NivFreak | :) |
| 21:14.28 | many | you can upgrade already, yes. |
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| 21:14.49 | NivFreak | no, I mean servers should be live in a few hours |
| 21:14.58 | NivFreak | like 2.75 |
| 21:15.05 | many | i wonder if they ban everyone who did for bugusing. or something :D |
| 21:15.13 | asmodai | wth |
| 21:15.20 | asmodai | 3 death knights on my server already |
| 21:15.27 | NivFreak | asmodai: us or eu? |
| 21:15.30 | asmodai | EU |
| 21:16.16 | Slayman | stoopid cheaters |
| 21:16.43 | NivFreak | huh? |
| 21:16.44 | NivFreak | cheaters? |
| 21:17.31 | many | 2 Spieler gesamt, Draenei Todesritter |
| 21:17.36 | Zyndrome | :E |
| 21:17.37 | Chompers | blancc/eleri and scramourne? |
| 21:17.47 | Zyndrome | already 3 DKs on my server ... but its 1 gnome and 2 nelfs |
| 21:17.50 | Zyndrome | ;_; |
| 21:17.55 | asmodai | Zyndrome: Thunderhorn? :| |
| 21:17.56 | JY` | 14 ppl in toundra now |
| 21:17.59 | JY` | KT EU |
| 21:18.01 | Zyndrome | Defias Failurehood |
| 21:18.02 | asmodai | ah |
| 21:18.05 | asmodai | rofl |
| 21:18.22 | JY` | 7 DK |
| 21:18.47 | Chompers | noo another kt eu person |
| 21:18.54 | JY` | oh |
| 21:18.57 | JY` | milae ig |
| 21:19.05 | JY` | ally |
| 21:19.11 | Chompers | come to menethil and laugh at the l20s trying to get back to darkshore |
| 21:19.16 | Chompers | it's awesome |
| 21:19.24 | JY` | oh i'm at sw harbour |
| 21:19.43 | Chompers | how's it there, busy? |
| 21:19.43 | many | whats the who for the zones? |
| 21:19.58 | JY` | we are doing some ride on the boat |
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| 21:20.07 | JY` | just for fun |
| 21:20.16 | JY` | 19 ppl in toundra |
| 21:20.21 | many | haha |
| 21:20.22 | JY` | with the new shipment :p |
| 21:20.34 | many | now people complain LOUDLY that it is unfair that some people are DK already |
| 21:20.53 | Zyndrome | hmmm, I thought it was going to activate at midnight :S |
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| 21:21.06 | JY` | fail@timezone ? |
| 21:21.51 | many | its not. i see also one player in tundra and one in the fjord |
| 21:21.52 | uzer | is Dalamar1991 = Dally1991, the person who took over drdamage? |
| 21:22.01 | Primer | I have a feeling my amazon-bought copy won't arrive today |
| 21:22.41 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2.0 * r85 : did not package |
| 21:22.46 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2.1 * r86 : did not package |
| 21:22.51 | Primer | I made the mistake of adding it to my wish list, and someone bought it for me |
| 21:23.02 | Primer | even requested expedited shipping |
| 21:23.04 | many | hehe |
| 21:23.04 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r87 : hi trunk |
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| 21:24.05 | asmodai | Primer: that's sweet :D |
| 21:24.29 | Primer | except if it doesn't arrive today, I miss out :( |
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| 21:25.09 | asmodai | heh, 12 DKs and counting |
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| 21:25.51 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r88 / (49 files in 7 directories): import message |
| 21:25.52 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r89 : - Performance tweaking |
| 21:25.52 | Repo | - Fix an intermittent error in ButtonFacade support |
| 21:25.54 | Repo | - Tag to v3.0.2 |
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| 21:29.07 | many | Achievement: achieve that 50 players put you on ignore |
| 21:29.08 | asmodai | 16 DKs |
| 21:29.08 | asmodai | hahaha |
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| 21:30.05 | JY` | 49+ ppl in toundra now :p |
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| 21:30.06 | many | heh |
| 21:30.08 | many | 5 tundra, one fjord, 3 DK |
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| 21:30.30 | many | 4 DK :) |
| 21:33.21 | NeoTron | I'd like to see the balance between HJ and BT |
| 21:33.29 | NeoTron | or rather I'm interesting to see how it balances out |
| 21:33.35 | NeoTron | it'll mostly not affect me, going DK |
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| 21:34.40 | asmodai | heh, guildie just rolled a DK |
| 21:34.43 | VonhintenHOME` | wtf, I thought the game wasn't released until midnight, why are there people playing already |
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| 21:35.10 | Saroz | nevcairiel, bump sRaidFramesIndicators |
| 21:35.13 | nevcairiel | because it was midnight in some parts of europe |
| 21:36.00 | nevcairiel | why Saroz? it has a 3.0 release file |
| 21:36.16 | VonhintenHOME` | omg, an NA company giving an advantage to EU... I'm calling the Feds, that's unpatriotic |
| 21:37.21 | selckin | so pissed off, still have to pick up my copy |
| 21:37.44 | Chompers | saroz, steal me a game! |
| 21:37.47 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 044.2.0 * f86f806 /: [new tag] Tag as 4.2.0 release |
| 21:37.51 | Chompers | play.com failed me :< |
| 21:38.50 | ramoz | what? thought they were supposed to open servers at midnight |
| 21:38.57 | ramoz | like, the northrend stuff |
| 21:38.59 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: http://www.tagesschau.de/inland/bkagesetz122.html >.< |
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| 21:48.30 | charon | Stanzilla: way to go. the UK might have a headstart, but you might be able to catch them! |
| 21:48.30 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 21:48.43 | Stanzilla | can I rent your basement, charon? :P |
| 21:50.09 | charon | Stanzilla: there's no internet down there, just wine, honey and some other stocks :p |
| 21:50.24 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1056 / (17 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 6 lines) |
| 21:50.25 | charon | but you could try and hide out at my university, i doubt anyone would notice |
| 21:50.25 | Repo | Ackis Recipe List: |
| 21:50.26 | Repo | - Added manual entries into the dataminer so it's automatic |
| 21:50.27 | Repo | - Added custom DB for special types of recipes |
| 21:50.31 | Repo | - Custom DB added to dataminer to it's regenerated each time |
| 21:50.34 | Stanzilla | hrm, open wlans in your area? I could live with the rest :P |
| 21:50.35 | cncfanatics | sleepy time |
| 21:50.37 | cncfanatics | g'night peeps |
| 21:51.15 | Arrowmaster | ROFL |
| 21:51.18 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1057 RecipeDB/ARL-Custom.lua: Forgot to add a file. |
| 21:51.22 | Arrowmaster | did somebody break xfire? |
| 21:53.10 | neenee | Northrend is open already on my server |
| 21:53.23 | JY` | i'd say there are ~ 500 ppl in norhtrend on mine |
| 21:53.41 | JY` | 25-30 of each class in each start zone |
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| 21:55.09 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2.00 * r90 : Tagging as 3.0.2.00 |
| 22:00.05 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina * r91 / (22 files in 3 directories): remove 3.0.2 |
| 22:01.12 | Repo | 10satrina-buff-frame: 03Satrina 043.0.2 * r92 : did not package |
| 22:02.26 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:02.28 | nevcairiel | Successfully uploaded /repos/packaging/zip/wow/SatrinaBuffFrame-3.0.2.00.zip |
| 22:02.32 | nevcairiel | wonder why it "did not package" |
| 22:03.12 | charon | presumably the packager was dead during that time |
| 22:03.37 | nevcairiel | no, it wasnt |
| 22:03.44 | nevcairiel | the tag was from like 5 minutes ago |
| 22:03.49 | charon | the first 3.0.2 tag is older |
| 22:03.54 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 22:03.59 | nevcairiel | i suppose then |
| 22:04.04 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:04.09 | nevcairiel | there is a deleted 3.0.2 now |
| 22:04.25 | charon | r76 | satrina | 2008-11-12 21:18:49 +0100 (Wed, 12 Nov 2008) | 4 lines |
| 22:04.33 | charon | that was the first commit touching tags/3.0.2 afaics |
| 22:04.44 | nevcairiel | People need to learn patience |
| 22:04.49 | charon | oh, not even that |
| 22:04.52 | nevcairiel | and view the packager log |
| 22:04.53 | charon | r68 | satrina | 2008-11-12 20:39:39 +0100 (Wed, 12 Nov 2008) | 4 lines |
| 22:04.55 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r29 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:04.55 | Repo | LDB Object now toggles main window instead of just opening it |
| 22:04.55 | charon | ... |
| 22:04.56 | Repo | Added drag functionality to class icons to swap healers. |
| 22:05.14 | charon | well, and become proficient enough at the tool to be able to tell pebkac from software error |
| 22:05.29 | nevcairiel | thats a given |
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| 22:06.17 | nevcairiel | anyway, to bed with me |
| 22:06.20 | nevcairiel | laters |
| 22:06.26 | Paene | Is frost gonna even be usable in Northrend? |
| 22:06.37 | Paene | seems like there would be a lot of immune mobs |
| 22:06.50 | Megalon | OVER 9000 IMMUNE MOBS |
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| 22:07.00 | rbarreiros | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.03 | Paene | WHAT 9000!?!? |
| 22:07.33 | Saroz | QuestHelper is fucking WIN |
| 22:07.48 | Paene | does that have wotlk quests in it? |
| 22:07.55 | NeoTron | Paene: not amazingly large number of immune mobs.. I know of sapphiron |
| 22:08.04 | Paene | most concerned for leveling |
| 22:08.19 | rbarreiros | not even water elementals are immune |
| 22:08.33 | Paene | don't wanna spec frost, then get out there and be screwed...then have to waste time respec'ing |
| 22:11.02 | NeoTron | Paene: you won't be |
| 22:11.13 | NeoTron | although frost is probably the worst leveling spec |
| 22:14.29 | VonhintenHOME` | Do Lightheaded and the new Cartograther not interact anymore? |
| 22:14.42 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm clicking on coords and not getting the 3D arrow anymore |
| 22:14.46 | Paene | NeoTron: What would you recommend? Fire? |
| 22:15.01 | Paene | And QuestHelper is in major need of a UI for it's configuration |
| 22:15.03 | hanzzon | is it possible to convert the bartender3 config into bartender4? |
| 22:15.09 | NeoTron | Paene: oh lol. mage. I thought we were talking DK ;-) |
| 22:15.27 | Paene | lol |
| 22:15.28 | NeoTron | for mage I suspect frost is pretty good due to survivability not to mention mana regen and such |
| 22:15.28 | Paene | no |
| 22:15.34 | Paene | yeah |
| 22:15.35 | Paene | I was confused |
| 22:15.36 | Paene | lol |
| 22:15.37 | NeoTron | but I wouldn't know really, I'm not a mage :) |
| 22:15.52 | Paene | Arcane is def not the way to go, too mana instensive |
| 22:17.37 | NeoTron | i do recall there were some frost immune mobs |
| 22:17.51 | NeoTron | water elementals, Zul'Drak |
| 22:18.02 | NeoTron | don't recall if there were any earlier or later immunities |
| 22:18.10 | NeoTron | but you might have to resort to other ones |
| 22:18.47 | Paene | hm.. |
| 22:20.30 | Paene | NeoTron: Another question, do I get to Northrend from SW port? Or is there a diff route to go? |
| 22:20.42 | NeoTron | SW or menethil |
| 22:20.52 | NeoTron | SW is Howling Fjord, Menethil is Borean Tundra |
| 22:21.50 | Zyndrome | other way around |
| 22:22.14 | Groktar | NeoTron is right |
| 22:22.23 | Groktar | and howling fjord causes the hiv |
| 22:22.47 | NivFreak | lol |
| 22:22.50 | NivFreak | I can't get wrath to install in wine |
| 22:22.56 | asmodai | mmm, tools updated pushed from Blizz |
| 22:22.56 | NivFreak | the agree button never lights up |
| 22:23.00 | asmodai | update |
| 22:23.04 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 22:23.27 | NeoTron | I think Zyndrome is right |
| 22:23.34 | Zyndrome | I played the beta, I should know :D |
| 22:23.48 | Paene | NivFreak: that makes me sad... |
| 22:23.54 | NeoTron | Zyndrome: so did I :P |
| 22:24.01 | NeoTron | but being a DK I rarely had to actually take the boat |
| 22:24.06 | NeoTron | port to train/respec, hearth back |
| 22:25.44 | Zyndrome | I checked out what boat went where |
| 22:26.40 | Zyndrome | the boat in the Howling Fjord takes such a long route to turn around before it stops so you can get off ... well, if you stay on the boat until it stops, you can just jump off into the water |
| 22:29.04 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone 041.2beta1 * r30 : Tagging as 1.2-beta1 |
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| 22:39.27 | Zyndrome | Gnomes are vicious and dangerous, and should be in cages |
| 22:39.34 | Zyndrome | looks at demolished forum database |
| 22:39.37 | MoonWitch | ok anyone here whos french? |
| 22:39.41 | MoonWitch | (please) |
| 22:39.51 | asmodai | nope |
| 22:40.17 | MoonWitch | anyone who actually speaks it decently enough to translate two sentences into french? lol |
| 22:40.30 | MoonWitch | would like to finish this damn flyer so she can finally sleep after 36hrs |
| 22:41.04 | asmodai | *grin* |
| 22:41.05 | asmodai | but just like anything I launch it wasn't tested intensively before going live, the first 10 people who report bugs in comments are getting a hug. |
| 22:44.57 | Archarodim | Someone knows how to tell Baggins to not hide the default bank UI? |
| 22:45.27 | Gngsk | there's a hide default bank option, uncheck it |
| 22:45.55 | Archarodim | hmmm I'll check agin then, I couldn't find it |
| 22:47.15 | ckknight | hey, everyone verify that they can log in to wowace |
| 22:47.21 | ckknight | tell me if you can or not |
| 22:47.42 | Archarodim | I see the option now but it was unchecked |
| 22:47.49 | Gngsk | ckknight, i was able to |
| 22:47.49 | Archarodim | it has no effect |
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| 22:47.56 | ckknight | k, Gngsk |
| 22:48.01 | Archarodim | note that my client is in French |
| 22:48.11 | ckknight | I moved to a cookie-based session store from a db-based session store |
| 22:48.14 | Archarodim | and the options seems half translated |
| 22:48.19 | Jaxon | ckknight: I can't, but I was trying from within links. |
| 22:48.21 | Torhal | ckknight, I'm in |
| 22:48.22 | Jaxon | Got an Object MOved |
| 22:48.36 | Jaxon | So I'll try again later with a non terminal based broswer. |
| 22:48.39 | Torhal | Jaxon: Go to wowace.com then login, then go to forums :) |
| 22:48.43 | Torhal | Ah |
| 22:48.52 | Torhal | Using Links? :D |
| 22:49.00 | Jaxon | Its what I have handy. |
| 22:49.07 | Jaxon | The VPN I'm connected to is internal only |
| 22:49.21 | Torhal | Ah |
| 22:50.28 | ckknight | Jaxon: Links doesn't support 303 See Other? odd |
| 22:51.52 | jaxdahl | this still doesn't work for me http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/download/clients/pc/InstallWoW.exe |
| 22:53.27 | NivFreak | jaxdahl: as they said it is unsupported |
| 22:53.46 | jaxdahl | hmm, any other options to get myself up to date so all i need is a wotlk key? |
| 22:55.04 | many | well |
| 22:55.18 | many | there is another nonworking installer when you entered your cd key |
| 22:55.19 | many | ^^ |
| 22:55.27 | ulic | jaxdahl: torrent, but the one I was on last night was uber slow, was gonna take me days to dl it. |
| 22:55.58 | many | some powerleveling blah sells cd keys online |
| 22:56.09 | many | and they offer a rapidshare url (which is slow as hell, too) |
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| 22:56.17 | many | and they say you can mod the beta install to work |
| 22:56.43 | ulic | "To ensure a smooth transition to Wrath of the Lich King, we recommend that players who have newly upgraded their accounts, log into the game and log out completely for a short period of time in order for their account to fully update. " What kind of craziness is that about I wonder. |
| 22:57.36 | jaxdahl | well i'm in the US so i won't have a cd key for about 7 hours yet |
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| 22:58.00 | ulic | they should specify what a "short period of time" is, for some anxious to play that game it's only maybe 5 seconds as opposed to 5 minutes. |
| 22:58.43 | many | jax: if you didnt preorder, you could get some shop to sell you the cdkey ^^ |
| 22:58.49 | many | thats basically what they did |
| 22:58.55 | many | and yes, before release |
| 22:59.58 | ulic | I stopped by 7-11, sure enough they have the game, but wouldn't sell it to me until midnight :( |
| 23:00.08 | Gngsk | i got one at 7-11 last night |
| 23:00.17 | many | Day changed to 13 Nov 2008 |
| 23:01.33 | ulic | Gngsk: yea, sounds like several people did, unfortunetly my 7-11 hired the high school graduates that know what dates are :( |
| 23:02.00 | many | haha^=) |
| 23:02.30 | Gngsk | actually, the latin girl who sold me mine was pretty cute and sounded smarter than a lot of the other people I talked to on the phone |
| 23:02.37 | Gngsk | her boss was asian though and I really doubt he cared at all |
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| 23:03.21 | ulic | looks for other 7-11's near by |
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| 23:13.51 | chiper | did normal outland instances get hit with the nerf stick too, or just heroics? |
| 23:13.51 | Jaxon | I dont' even think Heroics did. |
| 23:13.51 | pompy | the 30% health reduction n stuff? |
| 23:14.02 | chiper | pretty sure they did, after 3.0.2 we were slaughtering Heroic SH |
| 23:14.03 | pompy | yeah they did. |
| 23:14.07 | pompy | yes everything did |
| 23:14.25 | chiper | so, would it be plausable then for a 69 druid to do normal arc? |
| 23:14.26 | pompy | aoe tank heroic mgt now, ftw |
| 23:14.48 | Jaxon | A lot of our runs got easier because of the damage increases. |
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| 23:15.29 | Pkekyo| | Att hålla i magasinet när man skjuter är som att hålla i pungen när man pissar, man får räkna med viss spridning! |
| 23:15.49 | pompy | ... |
| 23:15.52 | Primer | English, motherfucker |
| 23:15.56 | Primer | do you speak it? |
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| 23:17.58 | Pkekyo| | Primer: si, seneõrita! |
| 23:18.47 | Pkekyo| | you should add "In the words of the great Samuel L. Jackson;" to that though, makes it wee bit more scary :> |
| 23:19.21 | thul | Pkekyo|:D |
| 23:19.23 | thul | LTNS |
| 23:20.03 | Primer | Pkekyo|: heh, you knew where it was from :) |
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| 23:24.50 | SunTsu | Primer: Who doesn't know? |
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| 23:25.09 | Primer | surely someone |
| 23:25.16 | Primer | I'm fucked |
| 23:25.23 | orionshock | servers are back up right? |
| 23:25.30 | SunTsu | is sad |
| 23:25.34 | Primer | amazon isn't going to get this crap to me today |
| 23:25.40 | SunTsu | 0:00 and no event nowhere |
| 23:26.02 | Primer | guess I'll try 7/11 |
| 23:26.15 | Primer | and sell my copy once it arrives |
| 23:27.19 | Primer | SunTsu: last I heard, it's 12AM EST8EDT |
| 23:27.22 | Primer | err |
| 23:27.26 | Primer | EST5EDT |
| 23:27.35 | Primer | is PST8PDT |
| 23:27.42 | Primer | so, 9PM my time |
| 23:29.28 | NivFreak | Primer: of course amazon fails |
| 23:29.44 | Primer | I made the mistake of putting it on my wish list |
| 23:29.52 | NivFreak | I didn't |
| 23:29.55 | Primer | and someone bought it...even added expedited shipping |
| 23:30.14 | Primer | I figured it might actually arrive today |
| 23:30.15 | Primer | but no |
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| 23:30.39 | Primer | And with the realms all converting at 12AM Eastern (as is my understanding) |
| 23:30.52 | Primer | People will have a 3 hour head start |
| 23:31.00 | Primer | The only thing I lack is the cd key. I have the files |
| 23:32.01 | Slayman|wotlkbuy | yo bitches I'm back! |
| 23:32.17 | Slayman | AND I HAVE MY Collectors Edition! |
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| 23:33.41 | Ackis | Slayman: u give nao? |
| 23:33.46 | Ackis | Primer: how did you get those? |
| 23:33.50 | Primer | get what? |
| 23:33.52 | Primer | the files? |
| 23:33.55 | Primer | torrent |
| 23:33.55 | Ackis | aye |
| 23:34.01 | Primer | I have them on my server still |
| 23:34.03 | Primer | you need? |
| 23:34.14 | Ackis | wouldn't mind dling while i'm out |
| 23:34.19 | Primer | md5sum checked and everything! |
| 23:34.24 | Ackis | ohh shiny |
| 23:34.25 | smcn | i still have beta files, gonna give those a shot before resorting to CD install :P |
| 23:34.30 | Primer | I'll setup a super secret URL, sec |
| 23:34.34 | Ackis | ty |
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| 23:38.57 | Pkekyo| | Primer: ofcourse I know, I was bottle fed that movie as a child |
| 23:39.05 | Pkekyo| | thul: LTNS? |
| 23:39.36 | thul | Pkekyo|: long time no see? |
| 23:39.41 | thul | WHERE ARE YOUR ARMY LINGO?! |
| 23:39.56 | thul | have people installed wotlk now? :-( |
| 23:39.58 | thul | all without me? :-( |
| 23:40.11 | NivFreak | yes |
| 23:40.13 | NivFreak | tons of us |
| 23:40.22 | NivFreak | mine was installed 24 hours ago |
| 23:40.29 | thul | mine was sent monday |
| 23:40.33 | thul | but not in mail yet :/ |
| 23:40.38 | NivFreak | ouch |
| 23:41.08 | Slayman | thul: i have |
| 23:41.09 | Pkekyo| | thul: never been in zeh army, so please excuse me |
| 23:41.24 | Pkekyo| | mine was sent from sweden on monday :( |
| 23:42.03 | Pkekyo| | speaking of army, my plate carrier is HAWT |
| 23:42.09 | Pkekyo| | just so you know :p |
| 23:42.12 | Slayman | I was a lucker today, went to midnight shopping, and got in early enough to grab me a CE :D |
| 23:42.24 | Slayman | and now I'm in Northrend, rending the norths |
| 23:42.40 | thul | Pkekyo|:P |
| 23:42.57 | thul | THIS ANNOYS ME |
| 23:42.59 | thul | but I have the weekend off |
| 23:43.08 | thul | I wonder how many levels i will get trough |
| 23:43.09 | Pkekyo| | thul: PM in a sec |
| 23:45.11 | ckknight | im in ur xpanshun rendin ur northz |
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| 23:46.13 | Torhal | ckknight: kthx bai |
| 23:48.18 | Arrowmaster | =( |
| 23:48.27 | Arrowmaster | my GoW2 RC tank is broken |
| 23:49.25 | thul | I WANT TO BE IN NORTHREND TOO |
| 23:49.56 | Megalon | Type key here: [ ]-[ ]-[ ]-[ ]-[ ] |
| 23:49.57 | Pkekyo| | my LK copy hasn't even reached the country yet :( |
| 23:50.04 | Megalon | [UPGRADE] [Cancel] |
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| 23:51.15 | thul | how can a leterpackage, sent on monday, NOT be here now |
| 23:51.59 | Torhal | thul: The postal worker is playing in ur expanshun |
| 23:52.20 | thul | :-( |
| 23:52.22 | thul | something like that |
| 23:52.25 | thul | aaargh |
| 23:53.08 | thul | I am considering going to a store and getting it tomorrow if it doesen't arrive |
| 23:53.09 | thul | :-P |
| 23:53.20 | thul | updating from 2GB to 4GB ram too |
| 23:53.21 | thul | juhu |
| 23:53.40 | SunTsu | We already have DKs approaching lvl 60 - on 0:52 |
| 23:53.57 | Arrowmaster | duh |
| 23:54.06 | Arrowmaster | the dk quests dont take long at all |
| 23:54.25 | selckin | i was gonna race to 80 with my mate, but stupid 1h30 early opening :( |
| 23:54.30 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: Yeah, but nearly 5 levels under an hour? |
| 23:54.34 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:54.39 | Arrowmaster | the quests give a lot of xp |
| 23:54.51 | selckin | you are 58 when you exist the dk starter zone |
| 23:54.51 | Arrowmaster | and are ment to get you to 60 |
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| 23:55.01 | Arrowmaster | think of it as lvl 1-5 on any other class |
| 23:55.34 | Arrowmaster | how fast can you do 1-5 on a race with a shitty starting zone like mulgore |
| 23:56.28 | SunTsu | Arrowmaster: Hm, still impressive to me |
| 23:56.49 | Slayman | I already love engineering VERY much! |
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