| 00:06.44 | ckknight | we're back up |
| 00:06.57 | Kivin | Xinhuan: Is there a known issue with clicking the Database maintenance menu item in gathermate? |
| 00:07.03 | Xinhuan | no |
| 00:07.21 | Kivin | It freezes up my wow, and sometimes produces CTDs. 100% repeatable |
| 00:07.38 | Xinhuan | CTD? |
| 00:07.42 | Kivin | crash to desktop |
| 00:07.53 | Xinhuan | wow issue then, not the addon |
| 00:08.08 | Xinhuan | never had it hang on me before |
| 00:08.16 | NivFreak | hrm, I have some strange periodic lockup of wow going on that I need to figure out. It'll lock my entire machine up for 10-20 seconds every 2-3 hours |
| 00:08.25 | Kivin | I can expand the item with the little + sign, but if I click the item, i'm frozen solid |
| 00:08.30 | Xinhuan | right now, i lockup sometimes in dalaran too |
| 00:08.32 | Xinhuan | pretty weird |
| 00:08.46 | NivFreak | I had it happen in Naxx last night |
| 00:08.55 | NivFreak | pulled some trash, got one SS in, and 10-15 seconds of lockup |
| 00:12.21 | Xinhuan | however, kivin, i can probbaly review the code again |
| 00:12.37 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-098-026-168-017.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 00:12.40 | Kivin | *shrug* I've just learned to stay the hell away from that button. Up to you. |
| 00:12.57 | Kivin | Only other notable things I have installed are GatherMate_Data and Routes, and cart |
| 00:13.12 | Xinhuan | haven't really heard of anyone else locking up |
| 00:13.24 | Xinhuan | or ppl would have complained a bit more right? ;p |
| 00:13.41 | NivFreak | maybe not :) |
| 00:14.05 | NivFreak | I wish my load times weren't so insane |
| 00:14.19 | Kivin | my load times are much better since i built a new computer in sept |
| 00:14.20 | NivFreak | having embedded libs really adds a lot |
| 00:14.52 | Kivin | went from a 3200+ with 166mhz ram to a E7200 overclocked to 3.8ghz with 1250mhz ram :p |
| 00:16.34 | *** part/#wowace lmeyer (n=lars@dslb-082-083-221-206.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:17.16 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 00:22.56 | NeoTron | so xperl doesn't seem to handle vehicles very well (such as dragons on malygos) - any addon that works fine with that or am I missing something in xperl? |
| 00:23.34 | NivFreak | I didn't think there were any unit frames that did |
| 00:23.34 | Arrowmaster | default ui |
| 00:23.36 | Zek | we've not gotten to Mal yet, so can't comment. what's up with it? |
| 00:23.49 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: fail |
| 00:24.07 | NeoTron | it works fine in a party @ oculus, they show up as party pets |
| 00:24.09 | Zek | if you have to go in/out of vehicles in combat? then no UI can do it currently. there's just not the API for it |
| 00:24.33 | NeoTron | it's in combat |
| 00:24.41 | NeoTron | for malygos that is |
| 00:24.45 | Zek | then ur outta luck really |
| 00:24.49 | NeoTron | I guess you have to solely rely on aoe healign |
| 00:25.08 | *** join/#wowace selckin (n=selckin@unaffiliated/axxo) |
| 00:25.18 | Arrowmaster | there shouldnt be a problem with doing it at all in combat |
| 00:25.26 | NeoTron | does xperl handle the dragon "combo points" btw? |
| 00:25.42 | Zeksie | it should do yeh. someone did a commit for that |
| 00:25.45 | Xinhuan | NeoTron: shows up fine for me on the "target" |
| 00:25.56 | Xinhuan | 20% for 1 combo point, 100% for 5 |
| 00:26.05 | NeoTron | I wasn't sure if it was xperl or quartz |
| 00:26.21 | NeoTron | since my quartz bars are displayed wheer xperl bars normally would go |
| 00:26.24 | Zeksie | Arrowmaster: when you enter a vehicle, the player frame unit is changed to vehicle, and pet is changed to player. This is how the default UI does it, and they can just go and change it in combat without problems. |
| 00:26.35 | NeoTron | a guy in the guild keep turning off xperl every time for that reason |
| 00:26.41 | Arrowmaster | i know, but you dont NEED to do that |
| 00:26.50 | Xinhuan | xperl does the same right now actually |
| 00:26.59 | Xinhuan | playerframe becomes vehicle, pet becomes player |
| 00:27.10 | Zeksie | yeh. was thinking of reverting that for various reasons. |
| 00:27.11 | NeoTron | player isn't an issue nor is party. raid is |
| 00:27.16 | Zeksie | or make it optional |
| 00:27.31 | Zeksie | i don't do ANYTHING to raid frames re vehicles |
| 00:27.34 | Arrowmaster | so you need raid pets to show? |
| 00:27.55 | NeoTron | I don't actually need player frames, only vehicle, in a raid |
| 00:28.00 | Xinhuan | fairly sure raid pets don't show atm if they are vehicles |
| 00:28.03 | NeoTron | but maybe wintergrasp is different |
| 00:28.16 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: they don't, the drakes aren't visibiel in the raid |
| 00:29.09 | Arrowmaster | they should show as pets |
| 00:29.25 | Arrowmaster | what does the default raid frames do? |
| 00:29.39 | NeoTron | haven't tested. will next time I go |
| 00:30.31 | pastamancer | blizzard raid frames don't register any of the vehicle events |
| 00:31.12 | pastamancer | oh, I take that back |
| 00:31.13 | Arrowmaster | and you are saying the vehicles dont show up as the players pets? |
| 00:31.42 | pastamancer | the pullout buttons register vehicle events |
| 00:32.05 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: in X-Perl there are no pets shown anywhere at least not from what I could see |
| 00:32.26 | Xinhuan | they show up as pet/partypets |
| 00:32.28 | Zeksie | then that's the fault of the secure frame header. |
| 00:32.28 | Xinhuan | but not raidpets |
| 00:32.39 | Zeksie | nothing to do with any unit frame mod |
| 00:32.57 | Zeksie | party pets are done via unit watch |
| 00:33.08 | NeoTron | Zeksie: in both occolus and malygos I don't care about the player frames if they are mounted so if it was possible (as an option at least) to swap pet(vehicle) with player frames for party and raid that'd be swell |
| 00:33.35 | Zeksie | player/pet i can make optional. np. but raid, well. see what i said before. |
| 00:33.52 | NeoTron | so there's absolutely no way to get a raid vehicle display ? |
| 00:34.01 | Pneumatus | Grid manages it :P |
| 00:34.09 | Pneumatus | at least the new guid branch does |
| 00:34.18 | NeoTron | ok so clearly it's possible somehow.. |
| 00:34.23 | Zeksie | in combat? is it real frames? or just displayed frames? |
| 00:34.51 | pastamancer | well it uses the pet header |
| 00:35.16 | pastamancer | and I can't test malygos but it works in wintergrasp and strand of the ancients |
| 00:35.20 | Zeksie | i steared away from that until now cos of that old problem with the lag caused by unit_name_update |
| 00:35.27 | Arrowmaster | except that branch also found a bug in the secure headers |
| 00:35.38 | Pneumatus | ill have tested it in malygos by the end of the week |
| 00:35.53 | pastamancer | yeah, you can't do any sorting/filtering of the pets or else vehicles with the same name collide in the sorting table |
| 00:35.57 | NivFreak | figure this out before I have to kill malygos imo |
| 00:35.58 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:36.07 | pastamancer | I'd really like to find a way to use the state driver to just change the unit attribute |
| 00:36.29 | Zeksie | pastamancer yeh. i'm sure we can do some nice stuff with that once we get used to it |
| 00:36.30 | Xinhuan | fairly sure you can kill malygos without any raid/party frames ;p |
| 00:36.37 | Xinhuan | all u need to care about is to heal yourself |
| 00:36.38 | pastamancer | but I'm not sure it can determine if there's a vehicle yet |
| 00:37.04 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: actually from what I see you have 1-2 healers that just use the aoe heal |
| 00:37.17 | NeoTron | and probably does <dps attackx5> <aoe heal> [repeat] |
| 00:37.21 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: i havent looked much at the new secure stuff but can the sand box receive events? |
| 00:37.27 | Xinhuan | seen the macros? |
| 00:37.29 | Pneumatus | in 25man we just have like 7 spam aoe heal |
| 00:37.40 | Xinhuan | there's only 2 macros, spam those 2 and u win |
| 00:37.47 | NivFreak | yea, It sounds like a lot of people just stack and use 2 aoe heal spammers |
| 00:37.51 | NivFreak | and stack the rest as dps |
| 00:38.02 | pastamancer | Arrowmaster: I haven't looked at the sandboxy stuff |
| 00:38.10 | Zeksie | anyway. late for me and up early.. nite! |
| 00:38.27 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 00:38.44 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: i dont think UnitHasVehicleUI() is available in the sandbox though which would be a major flaw |
| 00:39.01 | *** join/#wowace vhaarr (n=folk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Rabbit/vhaarr) |
| 00:39.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+o vhaarr] by ChanServ |
| 00:42.26 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: what macros? |
| 00:42.32 | NeoTron | so answer is nay |
| 00:42.53 | Xinhuan | fos DPS |
| 00:42.55 | Xinhuan | for* |
| 00:42.56 | Xinhuan | /tar mal |
| 00:42.57 | Xinhuan | /castsequence reset=target Flame Spike, Flame Spike, Engulf in Flames |
| 00:43.04 | Xinhuan | for healing |
| 00:43.06 | Xinhuan | /tar pet |
| 00:43.06 | Xinhuan | /castsequence [target=pet] Revivify, Revivify, Life Burst |
| 00:43.17 | Xinhuan | pretty brainless |
| 00:43.24 | NeoTron | don't you want to do each of those 5 times and not 2? |
| 00:43.33 | Xinhuan | well modify as necessary |
| 00:43.36 | Shefki | DPS should stick with 2. |
| 00:43.41 | NeoTron | Shefki: how come? |
| 00:43.43 | Shefki | I'd say healing should do 5 Revivfy. |
| 00:43.50 | Shefki | Engulf = stacks. |
| 00:43.54 | NeoTron | right |
| 00:43.54 | Shefki | More stacks = more damage. |
| 00:44.02 | Xinhuan | [target=pet] <-- notice it targets your own vehicle |
| 00:44.03 | NeoTron | does it last so short that if you use 5 it will fall off? |
| 00:44.09 | Shefki | The benefit of more combo points is more time on the debuff. |
| 00:44.15 | Xinhuan | lasts 10 secs |
| 00:44.23 | Shefki | But if all you're doing is 2 flame spike then Engulf there's no need for more time. |
| 00:44.25 | NeoTron | oh so more combo points doesn't increase damage, just duration |
| 00:44.31 | Shefki | Yup. |
| 00:44.42 | NeoTron | so one issue |
| 00:44.48 | NeoTron | when I enter a vehicle all my bars disappear ;-) |
| 00:44.52 | NeoTron | is that a bartender setting? |
| 00:45.07 | Shefki | No idea. I use Macaroon. |
| 00:45.39 | Primer | Anyone know offhand what's the command to disable maximum pitch so you can do loops on your flying mount? |
| 00:45.57 | Arrowmaster | you cant disable it, just set it really large |
| 00:46.13 | Primer | yes |
| 00:46.42 | NeoTron | Shefki: one issue - do you have time to always have 25 energy if you just stack it twice? |
| 00:47.06 | NeoTron | and also,doesn't more stack = less time spent casting a spell that's just a hot = more direc damage? |
| 00:47.49 | Xinhuan | you basically just hit the DPS macro like 3 times, then the healing macro 3 times |
| 00:47.58 | Xinhuan | and that just keeps up your healing and dps stacks all the time |
| 00:48.13 | NeoTron | oh so with that macro everyone heals |
| 00:48.17 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 00:48.31 | Xinhuan | or you can |
| 00:48.35 | Xinhuan | So 2cp -> finish, 1cp -> finish, 2cp->finish (or make a 2/3/2 cycle) your dot should stack up to 10+ |
| 00:51.44 | Mikk | uses standard action bars and all this vehicle yahoo of late makes him even more happy |
| 00:52.08 | pastamancer | hmm, does IsMounted return true if you're driving a vehicle? |
| 00:52.20 | pastamancer | that's available in the restricted environment |
| 00:52.28 | Mikk | UnitHasVehicleUI ? |
| 00:52.43 | Bruners | Xinhuan: have you tested routes with the updated mapster? |
| 00:52.51 | Xinhuan | no bruners |
| 00:52.57 | Xinhuan | are u using 1.1.1 or 1.1.0 |
| 00:53.13 | Bruners | not going say anything more before i update again |
| 00:53.37 | pastamancer | Mikk: trying to get unit frames to switch from the unit to the vehicle |
| 00:54.04 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: the only proper way is with UnitHasVehicleUI() |
| 00:54.05 | pastamancer | Mikk: using any sort of secure method state driver or restricted environment so that it'll work in combat |
| 00:54.36 | pastamancer | I know that's the proper way, but that's not available in the restricted environment, or is it a state the statedriver can inform you of |
| 00:54.47 | Bruners | Xinhuan: no worries, 1.1.1 fixed it |
| 00:55.10 | Arrowmaster | i really wish blizzard would just write all their stuff using the secure headers and restricted environment just so they know that its not lacking anything for us |
| 00:55.16 | Mikk | pasta: right, i'll shut my trap here. i've never fiddled with secure state drivers and i fully intend to keep it that way. |
| 00:55.27 | pastamancer | what, eat their own dogfood? that's madness |
| 00:55.41 | pastamancer | Mikk: that's probably best for your sanity |
| 00:55.56 | pastamancer | I just need to kidnap Iriel |
| 00:56.02 | pastamancer | brb |
| 00:56.05 | Xinhuan | think u need any help pastamancer? |
| 00:56.06 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 00:56.37 | Xinhuan | i've played with enough secureheaders to last 1 month hehe |
| 00:57.04 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: if you can find a way using the secure headers to determine if someone is on a vehicle |
| 00:57.33 | Xinhuan | i'll look |
| 00:57.47 | Xinhuan | u just want a "callable function" to get a yes/no right? |
| 00:58.14 | pastamancer | I'll take a state attribute that I can use to change the unit attribute... anything really |
| 00:58.55 | pastamancer | UnitHasVehicleUI is of course the official way, but browsing through the state driver and restricted environment code, I saw no reference to it |
| 00:59.18 | Arrowmaster | its the only function that will give you the correct result |
| 00:59.25 | Arrowmaster | ive looked |
| 00:59.29 | Xinhuan | i believe you can check for the "unit" attribute |
| 00:59.33 | pastamancer | and the correct way may just be to get that function implemented as a macro conditional |
| 00:59.37 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: only for "player" |
| 00:59.50 | Xinhuan | what does it return when u are in a vehicle? |
| 00:59.52 | pastamancer | you can't get party1vehicle |
| 01:00.22 | Arrowmaster | except theres different kinds of vehicles |
| 01:00.31 | Xinhuan | as in, go retrieve what the "unit" attribute says |
| 01:00.34 | pastamancer | that too |
| 01:00.38 | Xinhuan | it should be different isn't it? |
| 01:00.42 | Arrowmaster | which is why theres UnitInVehicle() and UnitHasVehicleUI() |
| 01:00.48 | Arrowmaster | they are different |
| 01:00.56 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: I'm not sure I follow |
| 01:01.06 | Arrowmaster | and you do NOT want to change the frames unless UnitHasVehicleUI() is true |
| 01:01.33 | pastamancer | I'm trying to make grid switch frames to show the vehicle instead of a raid member if that unit has the vehicle ui |
| 01:01.47 | Arrowmaster | the simple solution is to tell blizzard they fucked up and that function is required in the restricted env to do unitframes properly |
| 01:01.52 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 01:02.00 | pastamancer | anyone have a bat-phone handy? |
| 01:02.13 | pastamancer | or do I pray my message doesn't get lost in the ui forums |
| 01:02.18 | Xinhuan | lets see, the default raidframes does it by listening for UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE/Exit, and swapping the "unit" attribute? |
| 01:02.28 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: correct |
| 01:02.33 | Xinhuan | hm. |
| 01:02.59 | Arrowmaster | that cant be the only way |
| 01:03.08 | Xinhuan | so, the best you can do now, is to add an vehicle-hp-overlay-bar on top of the player's grid |
| 01:03.13 | Xinhuan | i think? |
| 01:03.16 | Arrowmaster | since those will fire when somebody gets on a vehicle like a mammoth mount |
| 01:03.22 | pastamancer | it won't target the right unit |
| 01:03.29 | Xinhuan | hmm that's true too |
| 01:03.29 | pastamancer | that's important |
| 01:03.30 | Arrowmaster | and you dont want to show the mammoths unitframe for all 3 passengers |
| 01:03.46 | Xinhuan | actually nothing wrong with that Arrowmaster |
| 01:04.02 | Arrowmaster | i think it is |
| 01:04.04 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=Tuller@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 01:04.27 | Xinhuan | seems fine to me, you can then target any to heal the vehicle |
| 01:04.30 | Arrowmaster | you could be dying from aoe and nobody would heal you |
| 01:04.30 | Xinhuan | any of the 3 that is |
| 01:04.45 | Xinhuan | i don't think you are targettable while on the mammoth |
| 01:04.49 | Arrowmaster | you are |
| 01:04.53 | Xinhuan | they have to kill the vehicle first |
| 01:05.04 | Arrowmaster | you sure? |
| 01:05.07 | Xinhuan | at least, that's the way it works for the wintergrasp demolisher |
| 01:05.12 | Xinhuan | u been on one? |
| 01:05.16 | Arrowmaster | the demolisher is different |
| 01:05.22 | Xinhuan | there's one driver, and a seat behind |
| 01:05.37 | pastamancer | the seat behind controls the cannon, right? |
| 01:05.38 | Xinhuan | the seat behind is untargettable by enemy, and u can frostbolt (cast spells) from it while the driver drivers |
| 01:05.56 | Arrowmaster | does UnitHasVehicleUI("player") return true when you are in the seat behind? |
| 01:05.57 | Xinhuan | no, its just a seat, you can't move, but you can cast spells (including ones with a casting time) |
| 01:06.04 | Xinhuan | no |
| 01:06.13 | Arrowmaster | you cast your own spells? |
| 01:06.25 | Xinhuan | yes, u can mount up on the blizzard bear |
| 01:06.36 | trh | do you get dismounted when the driver is killed? |
| 01:06.39 | Xinhuan | i.e mount on mammoth, get 2 more ppl on it (total 3 ppl) |
| 01:06.49 | Xinhuan | then all 3 can mount on their own blizzard-murloc-mounts |
| 01:06.51 | Xinhuan | its a known bug |
| 01:07.02 | Xinhuan | no other mount is usable while on the mammoth |
| 01:07.08 | pastamancer | lol |
| 01:07.13 | Xinhuan | whats funny is that you can then run off a cliff |
| 01:07.17 | Xinhuan | your mammoth dies |
| 01:07.21 | Xinhuan | but you stay mounted on your blizzard mount |
| 01:07.25 | Arrowmaster | also doable with other mounts like the headless horseman one or deathknight one i think |
| 01:07.33 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: yea, I do that all the time |
| 01:07.35 | Pneumatus | UnitHasVehicleUI() only returns true if the unit has the vehicle actionbar etc, so its false on mammoths/carpets etc |
| 01:07.37 | Xinhuan | yeah, just a counple of special ones. |
| 01:07.39 | NivFreak | a fun way to exit dalarn |
| 01:07.42 | pastamancer | I'm outta here... I guess I'll work up a post on the wowace forums and then post it on the blizzard forums |
| 01:07.44 | Xinhuan | yah |
| 01:07.45 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: wrong |
| 01:07.51 | Arrowmaster | has nothing to do with actionbars |
| 01:08.01 | NivFreak | other ones than the blizzbear work on the mammoth? |
| 01:08.12 | Pneumatus | well, the vehicle ui is the actionbar and the player/pet switch |
| 01:08.17 | NivFreak | and where's my screenshot |
| 01:08.37 | Xinhuan | err pastamancer |
| 01:08.39 | Arrowmaster | there are plenty of vehicles that change the actionbars but UnitHasVehicleUI() is false |
| 01:08.46 | Xinhuan | i think you can use UnitExists() in the restricted namespace |
| 01:09.14 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: the possetion bar swap is different to the vehicle ui actionbar swap |
| 01:09.20 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 01:09.33 | Xinhuan | so you can check for UnitExists("raidpet4") |
| 01:09.42 | Xinhuan | but i'm not sure if you can append "vehicle" as a suffix |
| 01:09.43 | Pneumatus | so it IS to do with the actionbars, the vehicleUI includes the vehicle actionbar |
| 01:09.45 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@ip72-208-180-134.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:09.48 | Xinhuan | say "raid25vehicle" |
| 01:10.39 | Xinhuan | care to try pastamancer? |
| 01:10.46 | Pneumatus | if you're using the default UI, you get a brand new vehicle actionbar, but for possetion you just get an actionbar flip like entering stealth etc |
| 01:12.36 | NivFreak | http://casualcorps.com/pics/fun/Rawr-Bomb-Squad.jpg |
| 01:12.38 | Arrowmaster | i swear ive gotten on vehicles that did not swap the player and pet frame |
| 01:12.39 | NivFreak | ^-- mount |
| 01:12.54 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: mammoths/carpets dont swap the player/petframe |
| 01:12.55 | Arrowmaster | but still counted as vehicles |
| 01:13.06 | Arrowmaster | i ment quest ones too |
| 01:13.06 | Pneumatus | and are vehicles, BUT dont give the vehicle UI |
| 01:13.18 | NivFreak | yea, the mammoth shows up as a pet bar |
| 01:13.18 | Arrowmaster | that actually did swap the actionbars |
| 01:13.21 | NivFreak | er, frame |
| 01:13.40 | Pneumatus | stealth-style, or full replacement? |
| 01:13.54 | Xinhuan | i assure you, mammoths do swap the player/pet frames |
| 01:13.59 | Xinhuan | cos i own a mammoth |
| 01:14.00 | Arrowmaster | not sure, i dont use the default actionbars |
| 01:14.15 | Xinhuan | i use default action bars... modified slightly with my bar addon ;p |
| 01:15.12 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC95E03.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 01:15.13 | Pneumatus | UNIT_ENTERING_VEHICLE arg2 also tells you if the unit is getting the vehicleui |
| 01:15.26 | Pneumatus | which is what I use in SimpleUnitFrames to switch hp/mana overlays |
| 01:15.42 | Arrowmaster | arg1 is the unit right? |
| 01:15.46 | Pneumatus | yeh |
| 01:15.56 | Xinhuan | yes, you'll want to use that, but if you're say, joining a raid, you probably still need to use UnitExists() |
| 01:15.59 | Pneumatus | there are a bunch of other args, like the texture of the vehicle and some other rubbish |
| 01:16.20 | Arrowmaster | ok so thats what pastamancer needs to use? |
| 01:16.24 | doom0r | i wonder if i'll actually get the Crashing Thrashin Racer this year |
| 01:16.31 | Xinhuan | that's only for ppl swapping in combat |
| 01:16.39 | Xinhuan | if you joined the raid halfway |
| 01:16.43 | Xinhuan | it wouldn't fire i think |
| 01:16.56 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 01:16.56 | Pneumatus | well, he does hook UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE and UNIT_EXITED_VEHICLE |
| 01:17.03 | Pneumatus | in the unitguid branch |
| 01:17.04 | Xinhuan | also you can't listen to events to swap the unit attribute |
| 01:17.17 | Xinhuan | the restricted environment doesn't let you |
| 01:17.25 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt allow events? |
| 01:17.30 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 01:17.45 | Arrowmaster | sounds fail |
| 01:17.47 | Arrowmaster | and useless |
| 01:17.51 | Xinhuan | your frame can listen to events, but you cannot change any attribute on a secure frame in combat |
| 01:18.29 | Pneumatus | at the moment, the new grid branch will create new pet frames for each vehicle, and show their name as their owner |
| 01:18.43 | Pneumatus | but for example at malygos, thats going to mean 50 unitframes |
| 01:19.20 | Xinhuan | however you can use the secure frame handler to handler:SetAttribute("unit", blah) |
| 01:19.22 | Xinhuan | while in combat |
| 01:19.32 | Xinhuan | but you can't trigger it |
| 01:19.42 | Xinhuan | you will need to use a control:OnUpdate |
| 01:19.47 | Xinhuan | i THINK |
| 01:20.02 | Pneumatus | i've not got enough experience with secure headers to even hazard a guess :< |
| 01:20.12 | Hjalte | Can't you hide the old grid frames and show the dragon ones on top, or is that not allowed in combat? |
| 01:20.22 | Pneumatus | you cant hide, thats for sure |
| 01:20.33 | Pneumatus | im pretty sure in combat lockdown you cant change anything |
| 01:20.39 | Pneumatus | but i may be wrong |
| 01:20.56 | Xinhuan | that is, you will need a control:onupdate for each raidframe, constantly check for UnitExists vehicle for that unit, and swap "unit" attribute on the frame if necessary |
| 01:21.03 | Pneumatus | i've got a sneaking suspicion at malygos at least, when you enter phase 3 you're not in combat |
| 01:21.04 | Xinhuan | not sure if there's any other way |
| 01:21.41 | Pneumatus | although i've only been in 25man once, and that was before the unitguid branch existed to even see |
| 01:21.49 | Pneumatus | plus i was worrying about staying alive :> |
| 01:21.52 | Arrowmaster | i bet you dont leave combat |
| 01:23.47 | *** join/#wowace KriLL3 (i=chatzill@unaffiliated/krill3) |
| 01:26.04 | KriLL3 | is there a way to check another person's raidinfo stuff? (saved instances etc) |
| 01:26.35 | Pneumatus | no, and they never implemented the "confirm you want to enter a saved instance" dialog we suggested during beta :< |
| 01:26.38 | KriLL3 | and is there an addon/tool that tells you what dailies you've done today? |
| 01:27.08 | doom0r | KriLL3: everyquest keeps track of when last |
| 01:27.14 | KriLL3 | Pneumatus: I was mostly interested in something to check what instances your party members are saved to, thus showing which you can all do |
| 01:27.33 | KriLL3 | instead of the endless "wanna do x" "saved" |
| 01:28.13 | Pneumatus | @project dailies-quest-tracker |
| 01:28.14 | Repo | Pneumatus: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 01:28.17 | Pneumatus | failboat |
| 01:28.25 | Pneumatus | well, that one tracks what dailies you've done |
| 01:28.39 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/projects/dailies-quest-tracker/ |
| 01:28.45 | KriLL3 | thx |
| 01:29.25 | Pneumatus | i've not used it since 3.0 though so im not sure if it has northrend stuff |
| 01:30.47 | doom0r | that's tasty |
| 01:30.52 | Pneumatus | i've not ever seen an addon that communicates with your party to say what you're saved to though... that could actually be handy if the masses used it |
| 01:30.59 | doom0r | someone needs to start a best addon you've probably never used page |
| 01:31.34 | Pneumatus | well, 'best' is fairly subjective |
| 01:32.26 | Dashkal | Could appropriately make that a module in ora |
| 01:32.57 | Pneumatus | ora tends to only be used by raiders though, not randoms you might pug for a few heroics |
| 01:34.00 | Dashkal | pug? ;) |
| 01:34.24 | Pneumatus | it'd probably be a fairly minimal addon standalone, but would require everyone to be using it for best effect |
| 01:34.43 | Dashkal | Yep, which is why it would have to be attached to something related |
| 01:36.12 | chexsum_ | librock :P |
| 01:36.35 | chexsum_ | it does talents - why not instances too |
| 01:39.18 | Dashkal | I thought rock was in maintenance-only mode now |
| 01:39.31 | Pneumatus | rock is in avoid like the plague mode isnt it ;) |
| 01:43.05 | Ackis | Pneumatus: it's missing a bunch =/ |
| 01:46.49 | Arrowmaster | so i think i just found a way to get places you shouldnt in azeroth |
| 01:47.38 | sztanpet | do share |
| 01:47.57 | Arrowmaster | if a mammoth with multiple people on it gets summoned the other people get dismounted but are standing up in the air, and if they dont move they can mount up and be hovering in the air |
| 01:48.18 | Arrowmaster | so get a couple people with mammoths..... |
| 01:48.34 | sztanpet | hah |
| 01:48.47 | Arrowmaster | make a mammoth tower! |
| 01:49.11 | NeoTron | you need to be able to mount up though |
| 01:49.20 | NeoTron | and I assume you can't summon someone up into the air |
| 01:49.32 | *** join/#wowace Next96 (i=Next96@121.129.140.56) |
| 01:49.34 | Arrowmaster | not sure, they might fall they might not |
| 01:50.11 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=nahh@178.80-202-153.nextgentel.com) |
| 01:50.55 | sztanpet | whats up with Grid2 btw, anybody know anything? |
| 01:54.53 | *** join/#wowace gix (n=gix@e180060027.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 01:56.11 | *** join/#wowace Orphis (n=quassel@belgarath.moomoocamp.net) |
| 02:01.28 | Adys | is PlayerModel:SetCreature() supposed to give untextured models for some npcs? |
| 02:02.01 | Xinhuan | well this sucks, i can't get 140 quests done in icecrown |
| 02:02.07 | Xinhuan | unless i do the group phasing ones |
| 02:02.21 | *** join/#wowace Orphis (n=quassel@belgarath.moomoocamp.net) |
| 02:09.24 | Zhinjio | AddonLoader has fucked things up. damnit. |
| 02:12.54 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Eh? |
| 02:14.18 | Xinhuan | Torhal, it usually fucks up loading order |
| 02:14.53 | Xinhuan | you can no longer assume an addon will get loaded before yours (via OnEnable or VARIABLES_LOADED or PLAYER_LOGIN), and will need to register for ADDON_LOADED |
| 02:15.13 | Xinhuan | when AddOnLoader exists, it totally changes loading order of addons |
| 02:15.25 | Torhal | Well, yah... |
| 02:15.33 | Torhal | Was just wondering how it "fucked things up" for him |
| 02:15.51 | Xinhuan | that means you now need to check in 2 places = extra code |
| 02:15.58 | Primer | I can't for the life of me remember what's the method used to write a line of text underneath another text frame. Anyone? |
| 02:18.20 | *** join/#wowace Fatalis[AFK] (n=fatalis@68-188-68-189.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 02:21.25 | Zhinjio | so, for one of my addons, it somehow has prevented it from getting stuff poked into blizzoptions |
| 02:21.39 | Zhinjio | now, I turn addonloader off, and about a dozen addons just don't even bother trying to load. |
| 02:22.14 | Zhinjio | uninstalling it now. |
| 02:22.37 | Bruners | addonloader does what really? |
| 02:23.19 | Zhinjio | for addons that support it, it can make them delay their loading until a specific event |
| 02:23.42 | Zhinjio | or, at minimum, until the player is fully logged in |
| 02:23.55 | Zhinjio | right, everything is back. thats fucked up |
| 02:24.08 | Zhinjio | and my options are back in blizzoptions |
| 02:24.17 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Weird. |
| 02:24.20 | Torhal | Which addon? |
| 02:24.30 | Zhinjio | so if you have addonloader installed, but don't have it enabled, anything that has the toc enables for addon loader WON'T LOAD. |
| 02:24.35 | Zhinjio | thats just fucked. |
| 02:24.44 | Xinhuan | yes ;p |
| 02:24.49 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Ah, probably the 3.0.2 bug |
| 02:24.51 | Torhal | LOD |
| 02:24.55 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 02:24.57 | Torhal | No? |
| 02:24.58 | Xinhuan | not at all |
| 02:24.59 | *** join/#wowace Corgan (n=Corgan@cpe-66-91-4-18.hawaii.res.rr.com) |
| 02:25.00 | Torhal | Interesting |
| 02:25.03 | Xinhuan | been that way forever |
| 02:25.07 | Zhinjio | that makes it utterly useless for me. |
| 02:25.19 | Xinhuan | u actually need to move addonloader out of wow folder |
| 02:25.30 | Torhal | That's bizarre. |
| 02:25.30 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 02:25.35 | Zhinjio | well, I uninstalled it. |
| 02:26.02 | Zhinjio | two other addons, using exactly the same type of options templating, worked fine, but hitcrit didn't get any options into blizzoptions. |
| 02:26.08 | Zhinjio | get rid of addonloader: they're back |
| 02:26.19 | Torhal | Zhinjio: My hitcrit has options. |
| 02:26.21 | Torhal | Od. |
| 02:26.24 | Torhal | Odd* |
| 02:26.33 | Zhinjio | mine must be special. |
| 02:27.46 | Zhinjio | you have the latest one with addonloader enabled? |
| 02:27.53 | Torhal | Yes |
| 02:27.56 | Torhal | Lemme look at the code. |
| 02:29.29 | Bruners | why do you want addons to load at a specific event with addon loader? |
| 02:29.41 | Xinhuan | so that they dont load at all if you don't need it |
| 02:29.47 | Xinhuan | for eg, an auction house addon |
| 02:29.50 | Bruners | aha |
| 02:29.55 | Zhinjio | for example, bulkmail would only load if you actually open your mailbox. |
| 02:30.10 | Zhinjio | or bankitems on bank opening event |
| 02:30.14 | Zhinjio | etc |
| 02:30.16 | Xinhuan | no ;p |
| 02:30.22 | Xinhuan | bankitems can't use that heh |
| 02:30.25 | Xinhuan | it records your inventory too |
| 02:30.31 | Zhinjio | I know. I'm just making a point. |
| 02:31.44 | Zhinjio | what I really need to do is compare hitcrit with BTC... since the latter works fine |
| 02:33.02 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: i have addonloader installed but disabled and everything is fine, you need to completely relog after disabling it |
| 02:33.27 | Zhinjio | Arrowmaster: aha. I guess I didn't do that... hmm. |
| 02:33.42 | Zhinjio | well, I want to re-enable it anyway to figure out my options |
| 02:34.35 | Torhal | Zhinjio: I don't see any reason it wouldn't work. You're setting up the options in OnEnable() |
| 02:34.44 | Zhinjio | right |
| 02:40.07 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 02:44.23 | Bruners | skilling unarmed up to 400 takes a looooong time |
| 02:46.28 | *** join/#wowace [ThraeBot] (n=[ThraeBo@pool-173-67-40-78.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:47.01 | Jyggaa | wowace.com down? |
| 02:48.13 | Jyggaa | hm nvm |
| 02:53.16 | Bruners | what events are fired when you change gear? |
| 02:55.14 | Xinhuan | UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED with arg1 == "player" |
| 02:55.22 | Xinhuan | and BAG_UPDATE with arg1 == bagnumber |
| 02:59.05 | Droolio | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w_debug-replacements |
| 02:59.16 | Droolio | is the examples for that not just wrong? |
| 03:00.34 | Xinhuan | looks right |
| 03:00.46 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110| (i=Matrix11@pD957DC71.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:01.34 | Droolio | --[===[@non-debug@ and --@end-non-debug@]===] turns into --@non-debug@ and --@end-non-debug@ ? |
| 03:01.55 | Droolio | shouldn't it be --[[@non-debug@ and @end-non-debug@]] |
| 03:02.16 | ckknight | no, it shouldn't be. |
| 03:02.19 | [ThraeBot] | ckknight: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 03:02.26 | ckknight | wtf? |
| 03:03.35 | Droolio | hmm, maybe i'm unfamiliar with Lua syntax but how else to comment out a block of code? |
| 03:04.02 | ckknight | --[================[ ur mom ]================] |
| 03:04.11 | ckknight | the number of equal signs have to match |
| 03:04.12 | ckknight | that's all |
| 03:04.36 | Droolio | aha so you can put stuff between the brackets |
| 03:04.46 | pomp | http://www.lua.org/pil/1.3.html |
| 03:04.52 | Droolio | even so, isn't the examples the wrong way around? |
| 03:07.30 | *** join/#wowace quoin (n=quoin@115-166-13-29.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 03:08.34 | Bruners | if i want to make LDB-feed addon, what should i call it? stablocks_ broker_ pico_ ? |
| 03:08.35 | *** join/#wowace topsub (n=josh@cpe-075-176-027-152.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 03:09.05 | doom0r | broker is neutral |
| 03:09.24 | doom0r | since it's libdatabroker |
| 03:11.03 | Bruners | kinda stupid that they do have those names :S |
| 03:11.13 | doom0r | which? |
| 03:12.12 | Bruners | if they all where named broker_* it would be alot easyer to find them, and less confusion for people that dont understand that they all work |
| 03:12.35 | doom0r | well, statblocks is something prior to statblock which is ldb, which was a horrible decision in naming |
| 03:12.47 | doom0r | some people name everythign of theirs with some tag |
| 03:12.50 | *** join/#wowace falconindy (n=dave@cpe-74-76-171-119.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:13.16 | doom0r | the real prob is curse's search is still borked and there's no proper categories for stuff like that |
| 03:13.22 | doom0r | such as how wowi has it |
| 03:13.24 | Bruners | that aswell |
| 03:14.20 | *** join/#wowace Quaiche_ (n=PProvost@c-75-70-0-80.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:15.20 | doom0r | i wanna know how blizz lost my quests for the entire zone of felwood |
| 03:15.26 | doom0r | i have not one thing complete |
| 03:15.34 | doom0r | i spent days on my main here |
| 03:15.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Quaiche|away] by ChanServ |
| 03:15.55 | doom0r | i'm even exalted with timbermaw and don't have the 6/6/6 quests |
| 03:16.34 | *** join/#wowace Zyndrome (n=faggotry@81-233-206-163-no89.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 03:24.04 | Zhinjio | Torhal: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 03:24.15 | Zhinjio | I don't get it. |
| 03:24.32 | Zhinjio | and its loading options fine on yours, eh? |
| 03:25.12 | Zhinjio | ok, lemme back out and try withjust a couple addons |
| 03:26.37 | Zhinjio | ok, all I have now is: |
| 03:26.49 | Zhinjio | addonloader, hitcrit, bugsack, buggrabber, fortress |
| 03:26.53 | Zhinjio | and its still failing |
| 03:27.07 | Zhinjio | and no errors |
| 03:28.12 | Ackis | Zhinjio: are you super busy right now? |
| 03:28.32 | Zhinjio | my schedule is not my own. Ask my 4 month old girl for permission. |
| 03:28.36 | Ackis | lol |
| 03:28.37 | Zhinjio | what do you need? |
| 03:28.48 | Ackis | http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/tickets/278-scan-button-does-nothing/ can you look at that ticket, post any comments ify ou have any? |
| 03:29.37 | *** join/#wowace bien| (n=bien@pD9E6D72C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:31.25 | Mikk | pufpuf, did heroic oculus with 4xgreen and 1xred |
| 03:31.31 | Mikk | looong fight :P |
| 03:31.56 | Xinhuan | should have done it with 3 red and 2 green |
| 03:31.59 | Xinhuan | takes like 2 min max ;p |
| 03:32.13 | Xinhuan | or 3 or so |
| 03:33.16 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 03:35.54 | Zhinjio | Ackis: I'll look into this if you fix my HitCrit problem |
| 03:35.55 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 03:36.01 | Zhinjio | j/k... looking now |
| 03:36.44 | Ackis | hehe |
| 03:36.45 | Ackis | <3 |
| 03:37.00 | Ackis | i'm listening to idiots describe grobulus |
| 03:37.39 | Zhinjio | /repos/permissions/svn-Master.access:1: Section header expected |
| 03:37.42 | Zhinjio | wtf is that? |
| 03:38.40 | Zhinjio | I can't even browse the repo right now |
| 03:38.48 | Zhinjio | I suspect Kaelten shenanigans. |
| 03:39.02 | ckknight | bah, fucking a |
| 03:39.09 | ckknight | Zhinjio: hang on |
| 03:39.14 | Zhinjio | hangs on. |
| 03:39.26 | Zhinjio | s/Kaelten/ckknight/ |
| 03:39.40 | ckknight | try now |
| 03:40.03 | Zhinjio | whoosh |
| 03:40.06 | Zhinjio | danke schoen |
| 03:40.06 | ckknight | worked? |
| 03:40.15 | Zhinjio | it did. |
| 03:40.47 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:40.57 | ckknight | also, danke schoen is basically "You're welcome" |
| 03:41.00 | ckknight | which makes no sense |
| 03:41.20 | *** join/#wowace vince` (i=vschiu@adsl-99-187-236-197.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:42.51 | Zhinjio | um, so ... I'm Austrian. Its kind of ridiculous to correct my german speaking. |
| 03:43.22 | Zhinjio | and I'm not sure where you got that translation. its pretty much patently wrong. |
| 03:43.40 | Zhinjio | not that I care. Thanks for fixing the repo. |
| 03:45.17 | Zhinjio | Ackis: that looks like a bad set of SV gunk |
| 03:45.40 | Zhinjio | that ace's wondrous "default" db values could not resolve somehow |
| 03:47.52 | NeoTron | Mikk: 5 green is the way to go. two fish in one go too |
| 03:49.03 | ckknight | Zhinjio: I blame my German teacher |
| 03:51.56 | Shefki | Muahah: [Ceil([[MissingReputation]/350])] <- Number of Everfrost Chips to exalted tag. |
| 03:51.56 | Zhinjio | I remember very little about my german teacher. Frau Zietek |
| 03:52.46 | Zhinjio | she was kind of mean |
| 03:52.54 | Zhinjio | she didn't like that I spoke with an austrian dialect |
| 03:52.59 | Zhinjio | viennese |
| 03:53.30 | Zhinjio | and used words that were normal or common in vienna, but not part ofhigh german |
| 03:53.36 | Zhinjio | of which there are tons |
| 03:54.05 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:54.25 | Zhinjio | Ackis: I'm not sure there's much we can do to guard against this. It means that the existing SV file was fucked up enough (or old enough) that Ace's default option table couldn't fit itself in somehow |
| 03:54.32 | Zhinjio | and it basically lost the filters block |
| 03:56.12 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@ip72-208-180-134.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:57.19 | Zhinjio | Ackis: your comment in reply to his was spot on correct. Its really not something we can fix or guard against. I mean, we can, but all it'll do is spit out an error saying "Your SV is fucked, so ARL won't load. Go delete it, nub". |
| 03:57.33 | Torhal | Bruners: Don't name it Statblock_* |
| 03:57.54 | Torhal | Bruners: That's a Funkydude thinger, just as pico* is a Tekkub thing. |
| 03:58.18 | Torhal | And it's an LDB plugin, not JUST a StatBlockCore addon |
| 03:58.33 | Torhal | I'll slap someone if they make a ButtonBin_Friends, for example |
| 03:59.05 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yah, I have HitCrit listed under Blizzard options. |
| 03:59.18 | Zhinjio | yes, but does it expand and give you the three sections? |
| 03:59.27 | Torhal | Lemme re-load WoW and see. |
| 03:59.28 | Zhinjio | it should have display, alert and ... uih ... |
| 03:59.31 | Zhinjio | one other |
| 04:00.06 | Zhinjio | tracking |
| 04:00.14 | Zhinjio | if it doesn't, you're seeing exactly what I'm seeing |
| 04:00.17 | Zhinjio | and its borked. |
| 04:00.23 | Zhinjio | and I can't figure out why. |
| 04:00.33 | Zhinjio | I need someone with more fu than I to look at that. |
| 04:01.12 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 04:01.45 | Zhinjio | if fortress isn't loaded yet... but I don't think fortress has an addonloader block |
| 04:08.30 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Doesn't matter if Fortress is loaded or not. |
| 04:08.38 | Torhal | It would still show up under Blizzard options |
| 04:08.51 | Zhinjio | ok, lemme eliminate that as well |
| 04:08.55 | Zhinjio | are you seeing what I'm seeing? |
| 04:08.59 | Torhal | And I see: Tracking/Display/Alert Options |
| 04:09.00 | Zhinjio | no sub-categories? |
| 04:09.03 | Zhinjio | damnit |
| 04:09.35 | Torhal | Running 2.2-release |
| 04:10.08 | Zhinjio | yup, me too |
| 04:10.18 | Zhinjio | are you running embwedded or dis? |
| 04:10.23 | Torhal | Embedded. |
| 04:10.49 | Zhinjio | ok, ONLY running hitcrit and addonloader now |
| 04:11.00 | Zhinjio | options are there!!! |
| 04:11.02 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 04:11.34 | Torhal | Fortress stops options? |
| 04:11.38 | Torhal | scratches his head. |
| 04:11.59 | Zhinjio | ok, adding in fortress now |
| 04:12.10 | Zhinjio | options gone |
| 04:12.12 | Zhinjio | ok, wtf. |
| 04:12.19 | Zhinjio | thats the only difference. |
| 04:12.25 | Zhinjio | what are you running? buttonbin? |
| 04:12.26 | Torhal | Damn it. You're making me download Fortress to see WTF. |
| 04:12.28 | Torhal | Yes |
| 04:12.43 | Zhinjio | once you switch, you'll never go back *grinN* |
| 04:13.07 | Torhal | I used Fortress first. |
| 04:13.08 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:13.14 | Zhinjio | I'm just giving you shit |
| 04:13.18 | Torhal | I have ButtonBin set up to work like FuBar |
| 04:13.20 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 04:13.22 | *** join/#wowace p4aved (n=dave@123-243-26-39.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:14.11 | Torhal | Zhinjio: What version of Fortress are you using? |
| 04:14.45 | Zhinjio | WHOA |
| 04:14.45 | Zhinjio | Fortress stole my options!!! |
| 04:14.45 | Torhal | LOL |
| 04:14.48 | Zhinjio | tracking/display/alert now appear under the fortress menu! |
| 04:14.51 | Zhinjio | holy shit |
| 04:14.54 | Torhal | Niiiiiiiiice |
| 04:15.15 | Zhinjio | thats ... I have no words. |
| 04:15.17 | Zhinjio | thats hilariou |
| 04:15.19 | Zhinjio | s |
| 04:15.40 | Torhal | I think I have an idea what happened, purely a guess though |
| 04:15.55 | Zhinjio | yeah, me too |
| 04:15.58 | Torhal | Fortress has its datafeeds as its own sub-options |
| 04:16.04 | Torhal | Recently Borlox added sorting |
| 04:16.05 | Zhinjio | Fortress has a section header for "HitCrit" |
| 04:16.10 | Torhal | Aye |
| 04:16.21 | Torhal | So I think his sort does something funky. |
| 04:16.22 | Zhinjio | and somehow, when I stuff mine in, they get placed under his header, not my top level thinger |
| 04:16.28 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 04:16.46 | Torhal | See what happens when you move your SetupOptions() to OnInitialize() |
| 04:16.55 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: it happens if 2 headers are named the same |
| 04:16.57 | [ThraeBot] | Xinhuan: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 04:17.06 | Xinhuan | slaps [ThraeBot] away with a large trout |
| 04:17.32 | Zhinjio | yup, I think he's using the label for the header name |
| 04:17.48 | *** join/#wowace orzing (n=orzing@220-132-135-169.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 04:17.54 | Torhal | Now, apologize to AddonLoader. Or not. |
| 04:18.05 | Zhinjio | well, it only happens when addonloader is being used |
| 04:18.08 | Zhinjio | for some reason |
| 04:18.16 | Xinhuan | cos of order of loading |
| 04:18.16 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 04:18.18 | Zhinjio | right |
| 04:18.20 | Zhinjio | sighs |
| 04:18.21 | Torhal | Probably due to the way he sorts his subsections |
| 04:18.23 | Xinhuan | if your header comes first |
| 04:18.25 | Torhal | Aye |
| 04:18.33 | Xinhuan | it finds your header first, etc |
| 04:18.39 | Zhinjio | cries. |
| 04:18.41 | Xinhuan | if your addon loaded first that is |
| 04:18.52 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 04:18.52 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 04:18.55 | Xinhuan | so get your addon or his addon to name stuff differently |
| 04:19.05 | Xinhuan | or workaround addonloader screwing up loading order |
| 04:19.18 | Xinhuan | addonloader's fucked around with about 5 of my addons already, i'm well used to it |
| 04:19.33 | Torhal | You could do the LDB trick with AddonLoader, but I think that would just be a hack to get around how Borlox does things |
| 04:19.42 | Zhinjio | yeah, the other ones are working because I use "Extractor" instead of "Broker_Extractor" for the options |
| 04:19.56 | Zhinjio | and he uses the full label name for the header in fortress |
| 04:21.43 | Zhinjio | this isn't precisely a fortress bug |
| 04:21.49 | Zhinjio | although I would say its not well-behaved. |
| 04:27.01 | *** join/#wowace Kody (n=kody@c-98-210-196-21.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:27.04 | *** join/#wowace Kody` (n=kody@c-98-210-196-21.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:27.40 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 04:29.52 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 04:30.20 | Torhal | Zhinjio: He probably just assumed that the label would be identical to the addon name |
| 04:30.41 | Zhinjio | well, in this case, thats actually the undesirable behavior. |
| 04:30.57 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 04:31.27 | Zhinjio | nope, I'm wrong. |
| 04:31.34 | Zhinjio | I have no idea how he's doing that. |
| 04:31.38 | Zhinjio | checking his code. |
| 04:32.54 | Zhinjio | he uses info.appName |
| 04:33.08 | Zhinjio | *cries* |
| 04:34.54 | Mikk | pats himself on his back for not updating |
| 04:35.05 | Torhal | Mikk: ? |
| 04:35.11 | Mikk | updating fortress for a bit |
| 04:35.31 | Torhal | Ah, you're still using the non-sorted version? |
| 04:35.34 | Mikk | yeah |
| 04:35.46 | Zhinjio | so in order to have this work, the string I use for the display in fortress cannot be the same as my appname. |
| 04:35.52 | Zhinjio | if I'm reading this right. |
| 04:35.55 | Zhinjio | thats just whacked. |
| 04:36.02 | Mikk | borlox needs to un-suck fortress, end of story |
| 04:37.09 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna try his alpha and see if its still borked. |
| 04:38.04 | Mikk | how the heck does he manage to steal people's options though |
| 04:38.06 | Zhinjio | nope, still ucked. |
| 04:38.36 | Mikk | does he go into the options table and randomly resort stuff? |
| 04:38.53 | Mikk | as in blizzard's option table |
| 04:39.11 | Torhal | Mikk: Yes |
| 04:39.15 | Mikk | huaa |
| 04:39.21 | Torhal | Blame Xinhuan, he showed him the table to sort :) |
| 04:39.28 | Mikk | blames Xinhuan |
| 04:39.30 | Zhinjio | maybe the way I'm doing the options table is not a good way? |
| 04:39.33 | Torhal | cackles! |
| 04:39.36 | Zhinjio | I stole it from Xinhuan! |
| 04:39.37 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 04:39.42 | Zhinjio | er, I think. |
| 04:39.46 | Xinhuan | people steal a lot of code from me :p |
| 04:39.49 | Zhinjio | actually, I don't know who I stole it from. |
| 04:40.22 | Zhinjio | I think orionshock, actually |
| 04:40.33 | Zhinjio | it seemed a very elegant way to handle larger options tables |
| 04:41.11 | Xinhuan | i dunno about that, 6 months ago, orionshock was asking questions like you are right now everyday ;p |
| 04:44.03 | *** join/#wowace nocts (n=Miranda@c-24-19-220-44.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 04:44.07 | Torhal | Mikk: |
| 04:44.09 | Torhal | local function SortSubCategories(parent) |
| 04:44.09 | Torhal | local list = INTERFACEOPTIONS_ADDONCATEGORIES |
| 04:44.09 | Torhal | local done = true |
| 04:44.09 | Torhal | for i=1, #list-1 do |
| 04:44.09 | Torhal | if (list[i].parent == parent) and (list[i+1].parent == parent) then |
| 04:44.10 | Torhal | if list[i].name:lower() > list[i+1].name:lower() then |
| 04:44.12 | Torhal | Swap(list, i, i+1) |
| 04:44.14 | Torhal | done = false |
| 04:44.16 | Torhal | end |
| 04:44.18 | Torhal | end |
| 04:44.20 | Torhal | end |
| 04:44.22 | Torhal | if not done then |
| 04:44.26 | Torhal | SortSubCategories(parent) |
| 04:44.28 | Torhal | end |
| 04:44.30 | Torhal | end |
| 04:45.43 | Torhal | Gah. Trimming tabs into one space looks icky. |
| 04:46.26 | Bruners | reminds Torhal about pastey.net |
| 04:46.59 | Torhal | Bruners: Yah, I needed that. About to go to bed, so my head isn't completely screwed on. |
| 04:47.01 | *** join/#wowace Quaiche (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 04:47.01 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Quaiche] by ChanServ |
| 04:47.54 | Torhal | As soon as I hit enter after the paste I thought "Eww, that's gonna be spammy" |
| 04:48.22 | Thrae | Xinhuan: WoW-Bot was originally ThraeBot, they've both been here forever. |
| 04:48.44 | Xinhuan | that's irrelevant thrae |
| 04:48.52 | Xinhuan | your bot triggered when i wasn't talking to it ;p |
| 04:49.01 | Thrae | Xinhuan: That means he likes you. |
| 04:49.19 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio: it happens if 2 headers are named the same |
| 04:49.19 | [ThraeBot] | Xinhuan: that is not the item you're looking for! |
| 04:49.22 | Xinhuan | see? |
| 04:49.34 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: I know. |
| 04:49.44 | Torhal | Zhinjio: He was demonstrating the bot :) |
| 04:49.53 | Zhinjio | but thats going to be true pretty frequently if Fortress uses my appname for its options header |
| 04:50.11 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 04:50.16 | Thrae | Xinhuan: I'm not gay, but my bot is. Just try to let him down gently. |
| 04:50.19 | Zhinjio | sorry, I'm really distracted. |
| 04:50.23 | doom0r | waits for Zhinjio to catch up |
| 04:50.40 | Zhinjio | doom0r: I added the option to click to cycle through the maps for you (extractor) |
| 04:50.53 | doom0r | awesome |
| 04:51.02 | doom0r | the name disappeared in one of the versions btw |
| 04:51.24 | doom0r | 1.21-beta |
| 04:51.55 | Zhinjio | right |
| 04:51.57 | doom0r | Zhinjio: just need an option to turn off mouseover cycle |
| 04:52.07 | Ackis | wtb decent guild :( |
| 04:52.14 | doom0r | so you can do just one |
| 04:52.23 | Zhinjio | toadkiller complained that the "text' field shouldn't display the name of the addon |
| 04:52.30 | Zhinjio | and leave that to the label field |
| 04:52.33 | Zhinjio | so I did that. |
| 04:52.43 | Zhinjio | is weak |
| 04:53.36 | Zhinjio | doom0r: turn the label on if you want the text back |
| 04:54.07 | doom0r | uh, i'm using b2f |
| 04:54.17 | Zhinjio | ah |
| 04:54.20 | Zhinjio | then I can't help you |
| 04:54.26 | Zhinjio | it doesn't grok labels vs. text |
| 04:54.33 | doom0r | everything else i've seen shows text |
| 04:54.48 | Zhinjio | and if you ask toadkiller, they're all doing it wrong. |
| 04:54.54 | Zhinjio | shrugs. |
| 04:55.00 | Mikk | Why doesn't he simply only touch stuff that's children of fortress? |
| 04:55.11 | Zhinjio | Mikk: excellent question |
| 04:55.32 | Zhinjio | is Borlax readily reachable? This is pretty atrocious behavior |
| 04:55.46 | Zhinjio | makes a ticket |
| 04:56.10 | Mikk | yeah he's around most every day |
| 04:56.14 | Mikk | and reads tickets on fortress |
| 04:56.51 | doom0r | Zhinjio: shouldn't that be up to the display to decide? |
| 04:57.01 | doom0r | hence a default for ones that don't support other things? |
| 04:57.22 | Ackis | @project clearfont2 |
| 04:57.22 | Repo | Ackis: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 04:57.27 | Ackis | @project eqcompare |
| 04:57.28 | Repo | Ackis: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 04:57.31 | doom0r | not that i really care much, but just seems wrong |
| 04:58.20 | Zhinjio | doom0r: yes, precisely my argument. |
| 04:58.48 | Zhinjio | the discussion was: "label" is the addon's name or primary string ... "text" is for text that changes (in theory) that you want to display |
| 04:58.56 | Zhinjio | b2f doesn't grok "label" though |
| 05:00.06 | doom0r | i don't see the point? what's he gonna display, nothing? the icon? |
| 05:00.17 | doom0r | why would either case affect him |
| 05:00.54 | Torhal | doom0r: For launchers, there is no "text" field. |
| 05:01.13 | Torhal | Well, there IS, but not really useful |
| 05:01.19 | Torhal | So the name would be the "label" |
| 05:01.28 | Torhal | Recount's LDB was using "text" for the name |
| 05:01.42 | Torhal | And apparently Toadkiller's display doesn't turn off text |
| 05:02.14 | Torhal | Though he was right: The spec says label would default to the addon's name if there is no label provided |
| 05:02.38 | doom0r | so if you only show the text, and there's nothing to show atm, why not show the name as a placeholder? |
| 05:03.02 | Torhal | Because he knows that the icon belongs to Recount. No need to see an icon with Recount printed next to it |
| 05:03.04 | kenlyric | because maybe you don't want a giant name splashed across your screen? |
| 05:03.08 | Torhal | Exactly |
| 05:03.16 | kenlyric | if there's no value to show, show nothing |
| 05:03.22 | doom0r | not everyone uses icons |
| 05:03.26 | kenlyric | in math we call this "0" |
| 05:03.45 | Torhal | The point is that launchers don't have a viable "text" field, but can have labels - the name for example. |
| 05:03.49 | kenlyric | that's what "label" is for |
| 05:04.04 | Torhal | With mal-formed LDB launchers which use "text" it borks shit |
| 05:04.12 | kenlyric | for people who apparently are new at computers and can't function with icons |
| 05:04.52 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=Lyset@c-794ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 05:04.54 | doom0r | kenlyric: i don't see any logic in that last statement kenlyric |
| 05:06.07 | Ackis | @project eqcompare |
| 05:06.07 | Repo | Ackis: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 05:06.23 | Ackis | ping ckknight repo is bad |
| 05:06.34 | ckknight | fuck you, Repo |
| 05:06.54 | Zhinjio | http://www.wowace.com/projects/fortress/tickets/13-my-options-were-stolen-by-fortress/ |
| 05:06.59 | *** join/#wowace silentium (i=silentiu@dslb-088-066-028-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:12.11 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 05:12.17 | ckknight | @project eqcompare |
| 05:12.27 | Repo | ckknight: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 05:12.32 | ckknight | ah, dammit |
| 05:12.47 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.14 * r64 : Tagging as 2.1.14 |
| 05:12.57 | Torhal | Repo: He know, man. It's ok. |
| 05:13.37 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 05:13.47 | ckknight | @project eqcompare |
| 05:13.53 | Repo | ckknight: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 05:14.11 | Zhinjio | it makes me sad that I'm going to put code in my addon to get around fortress' broken shit |
| 05:14.30 | Zhinjio | Torhal: would you say my way of throwing stuff in the blizoptions was a valid method? |
| 05:14.35 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Fix his sort function and submit it to him :) |
| 05:14.43 | Torhal | Lemme look again. |
| 05:14.50 | Zhinjio | or would someone else mind taking a look at that or should I change something? |
| 05:14.57 | Zhinjio | oh, cool.... thought maybe you went to bed already |
| 05:15.06 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 05:15.25 | Zhinjio | I can't find anymore where I originally stole it from |
| 05:15.29 | ckknight | @project eqcompare |
| 05:15.30 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/eqcompare/. EQCompare. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Imported from wowace SVN project EQCompare. hshh (Manager). Updated: 41 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 05:15.34 | ckknight | success! |
| 05:15.38 | Zhinjio | but it seemed a nice elegant way to implement options |
| 05:15.51 | ckknight | @project cartographer |
| 05:15.52 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/. Cartographer. Game: WoW. Arrowmaster (Author). , . ckknight (Manager). , . AbydosLanti (Author). , . Moncai (Author). Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 16/78 |
| 05:15.52 | Ackis | @project clearfont2 |
| 05:15.53 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'clearfont2' |
| 05:15.59 | ckknight | less success. |
| 05:17.25 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 05:17.28 | ckknight | @project cartographer |
| 05:17.41 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cartographer/. Cartographer. Game: WoW. Arrowmaster (Author), AbydosLanti (Author), ckknight (Manager), Moncai (Author). Updated: 3 days ago. Tickets: 16/78 |
| 05:17.45 | ckknight | alright, success |
| 05:17.48 | ckknight | for all intents and purposes |
| 05:19.40 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-242-180-111.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:20.05 | Arrowmaster | @project eqcompare |
| 05:20.05 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/eqcompare/. EQCompare. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. Imported from wowace SVN project EQCompare. hshh (Manager). Updated: 41 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 05:20.10 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Looks fine to me |
| 05:20.28 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 05:21.01 | Zhinjio | so I guess I need to decide if this is annoying enough to me to fix tonight around fortress' borkedness, or just leave it until Borlax unborks it |
| 05:21.07 | Zhinjio | I hate my OCD |
| 05:21.10 | Repo | 10feignnotify: 03Xocide 040.1 alpha * r6 : Tagging as 0.1 alpha |
| 05:21.12 | Repo | 10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander 042.0.109-release * r109 : Tagging as 2.0.109-release |
| 05:21.23 | Repo | 10cryolysis3: 03Belazor 04v3.0-beta10 * r94 : Tagging as v3.0-beta10 |
| 05:21.29 | Repo | 10questagent: 03Allara 04r27-release * r28 : Tagging as r27-release |
| 05:21.38 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: when are you going to give me power to transfer projects between wowace and curseforge? |
| 05:21.53 | ckknight | tomorrow? |
| 05:21.58 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 05:22.03 | ckknight | just make sure to remind me during daylight hours |
| 05:22.10 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 05:22.18 | Arrowmaster | im ususally not awake during daylight hours |
| 05:22.28 | Arrowmaster | i guess if i do it when i wake up |
| 05:22.42 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 05:22.43 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Write a cron script. |
| 05:22.46 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:25.49 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-242-180-111.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:35.10 | *** join/#wowace Slayman (i=Slayman@liebesbude.de) |
| 05:35.24 | Slayman | morninhs |
| 05:35.28 | Slayman | *mornings |
| 05:36.37 | *** join/#wowace Vilkku (n=Vilkku@dsl-tkubrasgw1-fe04fa00-202.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 05:51.38 | Parnic | so if i'm wanting to start using LDB mods instead of fubar...do i need statblock to display them or what? (brand new to it, just heard the hype) |
| 05:54.30 | Torhal | Parnic: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=14903 |
| 05:54.57 | *** join/#wowace orzing (n=orzing@220-132-135-169.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 05:56.00 | Slayman | did i mention that naxx is not as easy as all the HC guilds proclaim it to be? I find it fun, and challenging enough, just so you can participate in the content. |
| 06:01.58 | Arrowmaster | no naxx is a fucking joke |
| 06:02.33 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r65 / (3 files in 2 directories): -added deathknight |
| 06:06.10 | Parnic | torhal: appreciated :) |
| 06:06.43 | *** join/#wowace Rayden (n=bozartmp@cpe-74-74-225-9.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 06:08.20 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (n=starfox@d86-32-5-17.cust.tele2.at) |
| 06:10.25 | *** join/#wowace WoW-Bot (n=WoW-Bot@pool-173-67-40-78.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 06:10.56 | *** join/#wowace Thrae (n=Thrae@pool-173-67-40-78.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 06:11.28 | Repo | 10eqcompare: 03Ackis * r65 EQCompare.toc: Update ToC |
| 06:11.53 | Repo | 10eqcompare: 03Ackis 04v2.0 * r66 : Tagging as 2.0 since the bug was fixed |
| 06:12.04 | Torhal | Ackis: Blasphemer! |
| 06:12.34 | Ackis | there was a patch submitted for it which made it work with 3.0 |
| 06:13.12 | Torhal | So, why doesn't search find it? |
| 06:14.03 | Ackis | @project eqcompare |
| 06:14.04 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/eqcompare/. EQCompare. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. Imported from wowace SVN project EQCompare. hshh (Manager). Updated: 41 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 06:14.09 | Ackis | that's why |
| 06:14.26 | Ackis | Status: Abandoned |
| 06:14.27 | Torhal | But tagging it as release still propogates it? |
| 06:14.30 | Ackis | nah it won't |
| 06:14.33 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:15.16 | Torhal | Hmm...bedtime. Gotta wake up in less than five hours. Fun fun fun. |
| 06:17.12 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r66 Export.lua: -stubbed xml for dkp for realm |
| 06:17.52 | Slayman | torhal: quarter past 7 here and at work for an hour already beat that |
| 06:19.09 | Slayman | can't you fix IDCard instead? shift key does the same as EQCompare! |
| 06:19.35 | *** part/#wowace Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-242-180-111.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:21.35 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r67 RaidTracker.lua: -fixing dates and highlighting |
| 06:22.03 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.15 * r68 : Tagging as 2.1.15 |
| 06:26.11 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: wtf are you doing |
| 06:30.40 | Ackis | tagging a bug fix that was done a while, that's wtf i'm doing |
| 06:30.56 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=face@p5489F9D4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 06:30.56 | Arrowmaster | that entire addon is a bug |
| 06:31.07 | Ackis | thanks for sharing your opinion |
| 06:31.15 | Arrowmaster | if anybody touches it again i will delete it |
| 06:31.15 | Ackis | :P |
| 06:31.21 | Ackis | and I'll undelete it |
| 06:31.27 | Ackis | people still use it |
| 06:31.29 | doom0r | uh, my mysterious egg is back to 7days |
| 06:31.35 | Arrowmaster | YOU ARE NOT TO TOUCH EQCOMPARE |
| 06:31.38 | doom0r | wtf |
| 06:31.42 | Ackis | enough that someone pushed a bugfix for it |
| 06:31.48 | Ackis | they just didn't tag it |
| 06:31.56 | Arrowmaster | because they arent allowed to |
| 06:31.56 | Ackis | caps lock is cruise control for the retarded |
| 06:32.14 | Ackis | yes I see a big sign from hshh saying "do not touch this" |
| 06:32.29 | Arrowmaster | no, im the one putting up the sign |
| 06:32.45 | Ackis | i'll move it to CF if you want to keep your elitism |
| 06:32.55 | Arrowmaster | i can delete it there too |
| 06:33.03 | Arrowmaster | the author has abandoned it |
| 06:33.05 | Ackis | and I can undelete it |
| 06:33.07 | Arrowmaster | YOU ARE NOT TO TOUCH IT |
| 06:33.08 | Ackis | and someone picked it up |
| 06:33.13 | Ackis | YOU ARE NOT THE FUCKING AUTHOR |
| 06:33.19 | Arrowmaster | neither are you |
| 06:33.21 | Ackis | i can use caps lock too |
| 06:33.26 | Arrowmaster | meaning YOU ARE NOT TO TOUCH IT |
| 06:33.32 | Ackis | blow me |
| 06:33.52 | Ackis | serioulsy YOU DON'T FUCKING TOUCH IT |
| 06:34.34 | Arrowmaster | were you around for the last war i started over eqcompare? |
| 06:34.40 | Ackis | there you go, unabandoned |
| 06:34.43 | Ackis | don't fucking touch it |
| 06:34.52 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r62 SpeakinSpell.lua: Debugged the new cooldown feature |
| 06:34.52 | Ackis | I don't give a fuck |
| 06:34.53 | Ackis | people use it |
| 06:34.59 | Ackis | plain and simple |
| 06:35.38 | Arrowmaster | and its dead |
| 06:35.41 | Arrowmaster | its fucking dead |
| 06:35.47 | Arrowmaster | people that use it are stupid |
| 06:35.55 | Ackis | Arrowmaster stop modifying my changes, plain and simple |
| 06:35.59 | Arrowmaster | its been fucking dead for 2 fucking years |
| 06:36.08 | Ackis | that's why it's been updated for 2 fucking years dumbass |
| 06:36.15 | Arrowmaster | NO IT HASNT |
| 06:36.24 | Arrowmaster | nothing has changed in 2 fucking years |
| 06:36.27 | Arrowmaster | NOTHING |
| 06:36.41 | Arrowmaster | DONT FUCKING TOUCH IT |
| 06:36.51 | Ackis | hmm |
| 06:36.51 | Ackis | r64 | adirelle | 2008-10-24 21:26:56 +0000 (Fri, 24 Oct 2008) | 1 line |
| 06:37.02 | Arrowmaster | i dont give a fuck |
| 06:37.08 | Arrowmaster | the project is dead |
| 06:37.16 | Ackis | you have something against it |
| 06:37.19 | Ackis | stop abusing your powers |
| 06:37.26 | Arrowmaster | the author abandoned it |
| 06:37.27 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:37.37 | Ackis | ping ckknight |
| 06:37.47 | Ackis | deal with arrowmaster or remove me as a mod from CF/wowace |
| 06:37.54 | Ackis | Arrowmaster fuck you |
| 06:38.26 | ckknight | hrm |
| 06:38.32 | ckknight | I'm gonna deal with this tomorrow |
| 06:38.55 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 06:39.09 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I'm more inclined to trust Ackis, you know |
| 06:39.15 | ckknight | but I'll consider both sides tomorrow |
| 06:39.23 | ckknight | though I'll likely force it on Kaelten |
| 06:39.41 | Arrowmaster | the addon is fucking trash |
| 06:39.44 | *** join/#wowace tardmrr (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 06:39.44 | *** mode/#wowace [+o tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 06:39.45 | Arrowmaster | its for wow 1.x |
| 06:40.10 | ckknight | that's irrelevant. your behaviour is unnerving |
| 06:40.14 | ckknight | I'm going to bed |
| 06:41.20 | Arrowmaster | fine let him resurect it but tell him to do it on curseforge and under a new name, see how many people use the trash then |
| 06:41.46 | Arrowmaster | its trash until it gets a rewrite |
| 06:42.42 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r69 / (2 files in 1 directory): -fix boss trigger issue |
| 06:43.07 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.16 * r70 : Tagging as 2.1.16 |
| 06:43.13 | *** join/#wowace vince` (i=vschiu@adsl-99-187-237-159.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:43.31 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: backoff. |
| 06:44.00 | Kaelten | we don't just go randomly deleting an addon when it starts getting the attention of people |
| 06:44.47 | Arrowmaster | it should have never been imported in the first place |
| 06:45.14 | Kaelten | Don't see why not. |
| 06:45.35 | Kaelten | we cleaned all the addons that hadn't been updated for wow2.x out of the repo a long time ago. |
| 06:45.47 | Arrowmaster | it should have been purge out of the old repo long ago but just because somebody other than the author bumped the toc to 20003 when it was clearly broken in 2.0 i wasnt allowed to |
| 06:46.03 | Kaelten | I used it during wow2.0 |
| 06:46.07 | Arrowmaster | it was so broken it broke the blizzard macro parser |
| 06:46.08 | Kaelten | 2.x |
| 06:46.21 | Kaelten | i'm not saying it's perfect. |
| 06:46.50 | Arrowmaster | and nobody has touched it since then |
| 06:47.10 | Kaelten | bottom line, drop this. And in the future if moderators can't agree on an issue, both draw away and come to me. |
| 06:47.15 | Arrowmaster | so the latest 'fix' is not a fix at all but just a bandaid to make an error message go away |
| 06:47.58 | Kaelten | it's pathetic to see this type of infighting in a public channel. No more of it. |
| 06:48.07 | Arrowmaster | fine |
| 06:48.27 | Kaelten | And if you have issues with the mod's quality arrow: I'd encourage you to make a better addon, or to contribute to it to make it better. |
| 06:48.37 | Arrowmaster | there already is a better one |
| 06:48.42 | Arrowmaster | no need for me to make one |
| 06:48.48 | Kaelten | then use it :) |
| 06:48.51 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 06:49.00 | Arrowmaster | and i contribute to it |
| 06:49.03 | Kaelten | cool stuff |
| 06:49.09 | Kaelten | which one? |
| 06:49.13 | Arrowmaster | tekKompare |
| 06:49.19 | Kaelten | ah |
| 06:49.41 | Arrowmaster | which does everything eqcompare does in 100kb less code |
| 06:49.49 | Kaelten | my only 2 cents of advice, leave a note advising users of the existance of the other and that it may be better since the maintenance on this one is weak. |
| 06:49.55 | Arrowmaster | i have |
| 06:50.09 | Arrowmaster | all over the old eqcompare forum post |
| 06:50.21 | Kaelten | well drop notes in the comments on there and curse. |
| 06:50.23 | Arrowmaster | but it seems to have been completely ignored in this incident |
| 06:50.39 | Kaelten | people are looking towards the comments more than the forums in some cases |
| 06:50.41 | Arrowmaster | this was all pre merger |
| 06:50.53 | Arrowmaster | i hadnt even thought about the mod post merger till now |
| 06:51.01 | Kaelten | or there is something about tekKompare that people don't like |
| 06:51.04 | Arrowmaster | since i thought it wasnt even listed |
| 06:51.07 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:51.12 | Arrowmaster | people just dont know any better |
| 06:51.43 | Kaelten | shrugs |
| 06:51.51 | Kaelten | I'm presenting possibilities mate |
| 06:52.03 | Kaelten | not everyone sees the world in quite the same black and white ;) |
| 06:52.09 | Arrowmaster | i know |
| 06:52.29 | Arrowmaster | i had thought i had covered them all and delt with this once and for all in the past |
| 06:53.08 | Arrowmaster | i swore i had a commit message on eqcompare on one of the toc bump reverts saying not to touch it unless you had a full rewrite or something |
| 06:53.17 | Kaelten | you know what kinda unerved me the other day |
| 06:53.26 | Kaelten | people are still using KC_Items... the Ace1 version |
| 06:53.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah some things just need to disappear so people get the hint |
| 06:54.04 | Kaelten | well at that point it's not a hint |
| 06:54.07 | Kaelten | it's gone |
| 06:54.20 | Kaelten | and that makes people search harder for it, not realize that something else is better |
| 06:54.23 | Arrowmaster | like somebody tried to make a project on curseforge for an updated cartographer_mining |
| 06:54.44 | Arrowmaster | when its been said a billion times that the author killed it and worked on gathermate |
| 06:55.58 | Arrowmaster | oh speaking of eqcompare replacements theres also mirror which does about the same thing as tekkompare but i have no clue why it was made |
| 06:56.39 | Mikk | people make stupid addons |
| 06:56.42 | Mikk | it's a fact of wow |
| 06:57.03 | Mikk | for every good addon there's 5 piss poor ones that do the same thing except worse |
| 06:57.03 | Arrowmaster | like ones that play a 'come here' sound clip when you cast death grip |
| 06:57.07 | *** join/#wowace orionshock (n=chatzill@ip68-225-195-1.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 06:57.14 | Mikk | and then there's umpteen pointless ones |
| 06:57.15 | Arrowmaster | theres about 5 of those i think |
| 06:57.48 | Mikk | i fail to see the point in getting upset about someone wanting to keep eqcompare alive |
| 06:57.57 | Mikk | if anything, it illustrates the power in trademarks |
| 06:58.00 | *** join/#wowace Camci (i=Camci@ua-83-227-134-226.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:58.11 | Mikk | yes, tekcompare is better |
| 06:58.20 | Mikk | yes, you barely even need those these days with the default UI |
| 06:58.27 | Arrowmaster | because its broken and tainted the default ui so bad it broke the macro parser |
| 06:58.27 | doom0r | and it still fails to some |
| 06:58.28 | Mikk | i don't give a hoot myself really |
| 06:58.29 | *** join/#wowace Camci (i=Camci@ua-83-227-134-226.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:58.38 | Mikk | don't make it your problem |
| 06:58.40 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 06:59.02 | Arrowmaster | its my problem when people come posting taint log reports claiming ace2 is breaking their macros |
| 06:59.20 | Mikk | hm, point |
| 06:59.52 | Arrowmaster | which is why i fixed what i could at one point before switching to tekkompare and starting my crusade against eqcompare |
| 07:00.13 | Arrowmaster | i havent even looked at the rest of the code recently enough to know what else it taints |
| 07:00.22 | Arrowmaster | it was just a quick fix |
| 07:00.47 | Stanzilla | just paste the tekkompare code into it :P |
| 07:00.56 | Arrowmaster | ...... |
| 07:01.11 | Mikk | eqcompare.lua:1: print("Hi, I'm broken. Use tekCompare instead."); return; |
| 07:01.15 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 07:01.22 | Arrowmaster | i tried that once |
| 07:01.25 | Arrowmaster | i got yelled at |
| 07:01.39 | Arrowmaster | all i did was revert a toc bump by a localizer |
| 07:02.00 | Arrowmaster | it just so happened that toc bump was bumping it to 20003 from 1xxxx |
| 07:02.09 | Arrowmaster | and when i reverted it wow stoped loading it |
| 07:03.54 | Arrowmaster | i have a feeling that if i put a note in the description to use tekkompare or mirror instead ill get yelled at too |
| 07:07.52 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: is that author MIA? |
| 07:07.59 | Arrowmaster | extremely |
| 07:08.08 | Arrowmaster | actually not really |
| 07:08.17 | Arrowmaster | hes also the failure that does cooldowncount |
| 07:08.28 | Arrowmaster | but hes not touched eqcompare since wow 1.x |
| 07:09.23 | Arrowmaster | i call him a failure because he managed to completely break every addon that used libsharedmedia-3.0 if the person had cooldowncount installed |
| 07:11.48 | Kaelten | lol talent |
| 07:11.58 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: would changing the description to this be ok "This addon is abandoned, for an updated alternative try [http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tekkompare.aspx tekKompare]." |
| 07:12.16 | Mikk | votes yes |
| 07:12.17 | Kaelten | fine with me |
| 07:12.43 | Arrowmaster | put hshh as the only author and lock the repo? |
| 07:13.04 | Arrowmaster | so if he want to do something with it he can |
| 07:13.30 | Mikk | i fail to see the point of that |
| 07:13.37 | Kaelten | ya, no point in that |
| 07:13.41 | Mikk | if someone hacks on it, it's hopefully to make it less buggy |
| 07:13.47 | Mikk | if you lock it, you just reduce that chance to 0 |
| 07:13.49 | Arrowmaster | trust me |
| 07:13.50 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
| 07:14.00 | Kaelten | well who know's maybe someone will rewrite it |
| 07:14.00 | Arrowmaster | it needs an entire rewrite to be less buggy |
| 07:14.21 | Arrowmaster | at that point they are better off just making their own mod |
| 07:14.37 | doom0r | they still call this pos windows |
| 07:16.38 | Arrowmaster | i think its best to just disable tickets and comments and lock the repo with just hshh as the author to avoid confusion |
| 07:17.00 | Xinhuan | /popcorn |
| 07:17.16 | Xinhuan | the addon shoould be marked as abandoned |
| 07:17.17 | doom0r | what confusion? it's an oss entity |
| 07:17.26 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: i did, ackis bitched |
| 07:17.44 | Xinhuan | anyone having issues logging on (us realms) |
| 07:17.44 | Kaelten | let's leave it with the changed description |
| 07:17.48 | Xinhuan | i'm stuck at authenticating |
| 07:20.44 | *** join/#wowace kd3|hate`net (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 07:20.59 | *** join/#wowace Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 07:26.03 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r63 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:26.04 | Repo | Fixed a bug related to configuring SpeakinSpell with different options for different ranks of the same spell. In this case, the feature to avoid repeating the same message twice in a row for the same spell will treat different ranks of the spell as different spells, if the different ranks of the spell have separate SpeakinSpell options configured. This logic also applies to the new message cooldown feature. |
| 07:29.31 | orionshock | grr... I have come to a point where i am in need of a tooltip on AceGUI's dropdown list on the individual items themselves ... but it is not supported :( |
| 07:38.09 | *** join/#wowace Mikk1 (n=Mikk@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 07:38.34 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 07:38.59 | *** join/#wowace Lonny`afk (n=Lonny@82.80.140.16) |
| 07:40.35 | *** join/#wowace Nahkiss (n=nahkiss@a91-154-38-81.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 07:40.39 | *** join/#wowace Quaiche (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 07:40.39 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Quaiche] by ChanServ |
| 07:43.29 | *** join/#wowace orzing (n=orzing@220-132-135-169.HINET-IP.hinet.net) |
| 07:45.45 | *** join/#wowace Aiiane1 (n=Aiiane@starfire.ST.HMC.Edu) |
| 07:47.54 | *** join/#wowace Aii (n=Aiiane@knuth.cs.hmc.edu) |
| 07:54.29 | *** join/#wowace quoin- (n=quoin@219.90.255.92) |
| 07:57.13 | *** join/#wowace Xinhuan (i=xinhuan@adsl1500-57.dyn83.pacific.net.sg) |
| 08:02.51 | *** join/#wowace Mikk1 (n=Mikk@81-233-236-26-no19.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:03.16 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Mikk] by ChanServ |
| 08:12.41 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r64 readme.txt: |
| 08:12.42 | Repo | Added theoretical instructions for "how to setup SpeakinSpell to work in any language" |
| 08:16.45 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84-119-64-174.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 08:21.14 | Fisker- | rages |
| 08:22.37 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03StingerSoft * r158 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: ruRU fix (The Culling of Stratholme) |
| 08:23.49 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.hjnqu1.static.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 08:24.06 | Stanzilla | licks Fisker- |
| 08:37.05 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1791 AtlasLayout/instances.en.lua: - fixed Ymiron's place in Utgarde Pinnacle |
| 08:39.28 | *** join/#wowace QuantumDelta (i=blahblah@77-99-38-93.cable.ubr04.chap.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 08:40.24 | *** join/#wowace papyros (n=madlener@iss63.vlsi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 08:44.35 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl119-202-155.student.uu.se) |
| 08:47.43 | *** join/#wowace pb_ee1 (n=nospam@meilleu015869-2.clients.easynet.fr) |
| 08:51.17 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r278 / (14 files in 5 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 08:51.18 | Repo | o Added ability to import SKMap data |
| 08:51.18 | Repo | - Added Babble-Class-3.0 as an external |
| 08:51.20 | Repo | - Created a temporary library for Babble-Race-3.0 until it is actually |
| 08:51.24 | Repo | implemented. This is ckknight's Babble-Race-2.2 with slight tweaks to |
| 08:52.23 | *** join/#wowace Aeyan (n=pancake@cpe-071-076-230-073.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 08:52.48 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.152.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 08:53.26 | asmodai | mmm, anyone awake that did a fair deal of CVS administration? If so, what possible causes could a extssh checkout of a CVS repo fail with a permission denied on CVSROOT/config? I've been trying various permission settings, but nothing seems to fix it. |
| 08:55.26 | *** join/#wowace Srosh (n=Srosh@c136047.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:56.51 | *** join/#wowace Zeksie (n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:06.15 | *** join/#wowace Quaiche (n=PProvost@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 09:06.15 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Quaiche] by ChanServ |
| 09:07.18 | *** join/#wowace FtH|Daemona (n=koaschte@i59F61757.versanet.de) |
| 09:07.34 | Zhinjio | Am I here? |
| 09:07.41 | Zhinjio | anyone: ping. |
| 09:09.15 | Zhinjio | there, I think I'm back |
| 09:09.26 | Zhinjio | ~fail Zhinjio |
| 09:09.27 | purl | Zhinjio: FAIL! |
| 09:09.30 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 09:14.18 | Nechckn | is anyone ever, really here, Zhinjio? |
| 09:15.15 | Nechckn | IRC existentialism, at its finest... |
| 09:17.08 | Repo | 10repairbroker: 03tnt2ray * r7 / (9 files in 3 directories): add zhCN and zhTW |
| 09:17.09 | Repo | svn: No repository found in 'svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libtooltip/mainline/trunk/LibTooltip-1.0' |
| 09:18.04 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 09:18.22 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r36 / (41 files in 4 directories): Change Grid2 setup so that it's saved in the profile. |
| 09:19.16 | asmodai | smurfpints Zhinjio |
| 09:21.08 | *** join/#wowace lmeyer (n=lars@dslb-082-083-195-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:21.44 | *** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=ethan@78.147.190.54) |
| 09:24.02 | *** join/#wowace thul (i=thul@gauk.unixgen.com) |
| 09:25.04 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r71 Libs/Karma-1.0 (4 files in 1 directory): -fixing revision issue |
| 09:27.57 | *** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Sirow001@p50885C4A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:29.40 | *** join/#wowace eoM_rM (n=moe@p5489E5A1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:30.14 | Zhinjio | I was getting some local network weirdness. so I was trying to check if I existed or not. |
| 09:30.22 | Zhinjio | and you're right, thats pretty weird, existentially |
| 09:34.39 | theoddone33 | playing in heroic oculus |
| 09:34.48 | theoddone33 | 5 amber drakes is the best crazy combo we've done |
| 09:34.51 | theoddone33 | but we didn't down him |
| 09:35.16 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r72 Libs/Karma-1.0/Karma-1.0.lua: -fixing revision issue |
| 09:38.12 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r90 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- More quest items |
| 09:38.12 | Repo | -- Some water breathing thing |
| 09:38.57 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r351 Talented.toc: |
| 09:38.57 | Repo | (AddonLoader) Only load Talented if "really" inspecting someone |
| 09:40.02 | Slayman | theoddone33: why would you try something like that? |
| 09:40.16 | theoddone33 | because it gets you 2 achievements |
| 09:40.41 | Slayman | yeah still stupid go there another day get the other achievement |
| 09:41.04 | EthanCentaurai | having not yet done Oculus, what are the differences between the amber, ruby and emerald drakes? |
| 09:41.07 | theoddone33 | 5 amber actually works pretty well |
| 09:41.17 | Slayman | ruby tank, emerald heal and amber damage |
| 09:41.42 | EthanCentaurai | thanks :) |
| 09:41.46 | Slayman | theoddone33: you cannot really make it as you cannot live long enough with all the whelps |
| 09:41.49 | theoddone33 | you can try infinitely rearlly |
| 09:42.00 | theoddone33 | we got him down to 100k a couple times |
| 09:42.25 | Slayman | still you didn't down him that should tell you something |
| 09:42.47 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r698 AutoBarCategory.lua: |
| 09:42.48 | Repo | -- Handle bad German localization of Alchemy and Cooking. Sigh. |
| 09:43.42 | *** join/#wowace Natherul (n=Natherul@81-229-191-248-no31.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 09:43.43 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v698 beta * r699 : Tagging as v698 beta |
| 09:43.48 | theoddone33 | we would have gotten him in a couple more attempts |
| 09:43.51 | theoddone33 | but one guy left |
| 09:44.11 | theoddone33 | we've been trying it 4 man but we haven't gotten as far |
| 09:44.25 | theoddone33 | 4 man with real combos |
| 09:48.43 | theoddone33 | anyway 5 amber is definitely doable |
| 09:48.57 | theoddone33 | diminishing returns on the stun is annoying but otherwise it's pretty good |
| 09:49.52 | Grum | 5 amber is really hard tbh |
| 09:50.04 | theoddone33 | takes coordination is all |
| 09:50.13 | Grum | DR makes it not quite doable |
| 09:50.31 | theoddone33 | 100% sure it can be done |
| 09:50.36 | Grum | how? |
| 09:50.37 | theoddone33 | we'll try again some other night |
| 09:50.48 | quiescens | you could nuke it down pretty quickly with 5 amber |
| 09:50.59 | Grum | not faster than he or any adds can kill you |
| 09:51.08 | theoddone33 | we were consistently getting past the second phase shiftt |
| 09:51.13 | theoddone33 | once we figured it out |
| 09:51.18 | quiescens | adds would be annoying |
| 09:51.24 | theoddone33 | the adds don't always spawn |
| 09:51.46 | Grum | euh? |
| 09:51.54 | Grum | adds do always spawn when i fight him :p |
| 09:52.10 | theoddone33 | we had 2 or 3 attempts where there were no adds up on the first phase shift |
| 09:52.20 | theoddone33 | possibly related to the timing of the stun, I dunno |
| 09:52.35 | Grum | he doesnt create adds at the shift; he does it at intervals between shifts |
| 09:52.51 | theoddone33 | yes but with no one killing them, they would be up if they had spawned |
| 09:53.06 | Grum | humz that is just strange |
| 09:53.36 | Slayman | anyone knows which exploit to use to get Anub'Arak in 2mins= |
| 09:53.37 | Slayman | ? |
| 09:53.38 | theoddone33 | but we did fine despite adds on our last few attempts before the one guy left |
| 09:53.38 | Grum | anyhow; 5 green ones is piss easy :) |
| 09:53.52 | theoddone33 | we tried 5 greens and got destroyed, heh |
| 09:53.55 | Grum | Slayman: you can dps the boss from outside of the forcefield |
| 09:54.12 | Slayman | Grum, and that helps how exactly? |
| 09:54.17 | Repo | 10broker_mail: 03tnt2ray * r41 / (7 files in 2 directories): Broker_Mail: |
| 09:54.18 | Repo | add zhCN and zhTW |
| 09:54.30 | Grum | you have earlier access to the adds? |
| 09:54.55 | Slayman | yeah, still not doable 3rd addphase taking way too long |
| 09:55.18 | Grum | ah well .. i havent done him .. atm you can only do it with cheating |
| 09:55.20 | Grum | which is rather lame |
| 09:55.24 | Repo | 10broker_mail: 03tnt2ray * r42 Broker_Mail.toc: Broker_Mail: |
| 09:55.25 | Repo | 20400 to 30000 |
| 09:55.26 | Slayman | agreed |
| 09:56.03 | Slayman | like the snakeboss in gundrak and the water, pretty cheat too but fun nonetheless |
| 09:56.31 | Grum | it is also lame that The Egg of Mortal Essence [ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40685 ] does proc of felarmor |
| 09:56.41 | Grum | but doesnt proc of VE healing or Devouring plague |
| 09:58.11 | Slayman | can someone tell me the intention of those gloves: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=39192 |
| 09:58.24 | Slayman | i mean +hit but Spirit don't get it |
| 09:58.56 | Grum | i dont get why you dont get it |
| 09:59.01 | Grum | you must be a mage |
| 09:59.05 | Slayman | i am |
| 09:59.23 | Stanzilla | lol grum :D |
| 09:59.24 | Slayman | so you do get why i don't get it, enlighten me will ya? |
| 09:59.38 | Stanzilla | warlocks now like spirit |
| 09:59.42 | Stanzilla | spriests, too |
| 09:59.44 | Slayman | thy do? |
| 09:59.47 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 09:59.49 | Slayman | fucktards |
| 09:59.54 | Slayman | hate em all! |
| 09:59.55 | Stanzilla | dont complain |
| 09:59.57 | Megalon | everyone likes spirit |
| 09:59.58 | Stanzilla | more loot for you! |
| 09:59.58 | theoddone33 | I think those gloves dropped tonight |
| 10:00.06 | theoddone33 | a mage took them |
| 10:00.14 | theoddone33 | because they're still ok |
| 10:00.16 | Slayman | yeah i rolled too |
| 10:00.17 | Grum | that mage just fails |
| 10:00.23 | Slayman | i take it all! |
| 10:00.24 | theoddone33 | no he doesn't |
| 10:00.29 | Grum | he does |
| 10:00.35 | theoddone33 | it was an upgrade, why does he fail? |
| 10:00.50 | Slayman | if I amass enough spirit i glyph imp mage armor and mage armor up! |
| 10:00.55 | Grum | o.O |
| 10:01.05 | theoddone33 | there's a lot of spirit on the mage t7 |
| 10:01.08 | theoddone33 | it's annoying |
| 10:01.29 | SunTsu | Slayman: warlock's fel armor now gives bonus damage based on spirit |
| 10:01.39 | Slayman | Stanzilla: why do locks like spirit now? las i checked it was spellpower stamina an crit if not affliction |
| 10:01.42 | theoddone33 | one replenishment and I can do most fights with molten up |
| 10:01.52 | Stanzilla | Slayman: what SunTsu said |
| 10:01.52 | Grum | Slayman: suntsu just said it ;) |
| 10:01.54 | Slayman | I now hate Warlocks even more |
| 10:02.02 | Grum | felarmor = 30% spirit in spelldmg |
| 10:02.06 | Slayman | if that's possible anyway |
| 10:02.07 | Grum | i have to say its fucking lame |
| 10:02.17 | Grum | wtb the same for spriests :P |
| 10:02.20 | quiescens | it is pretty hax |
| 10:02.22 | theoddone33 | let them roll against the priests |
| 10:02.26 | theoddone33 | doesn't bother me |
| 10:02.28 | Slayman | it's like giving shittypriest and locks the same itempool |
| 10:02.36 | Stanzilla | hahaha |
| 10:02.36 | Grum | hehe |
| 10:02.41 | Grum | mages are kinda overpowered anyhow |
| 10:02.45 | theoddone33 | although most of our priests are clued in enough to know that gear with +hit aren't for them |
| 10:02.48 | Slayman | gosh my hatred just reached critical mass |
| 10:02.53 | Repo | 10broker_mail: 03tnt2ray * r43 Locales/zhTW.lua: Broker_Mail: |
| 10:02.53 | Repo | fix zhTW |
| 10:02.56 | theoddone33 | I got a nice wws |
| 10:03.00 | theoddone33 | let's see |
| 10:03.02 | Slayman | Grum: mages are teh losers bigtime |
| 10:03.49 | theoddone33 | http://wowwebstats.com/mxwqhu4n2lnms?s=467441-494555 mages win |
| 10:03.53 | Slayman | i have manaprobs in 10man dungeons, i don't do enough dmg yet and way too little DPM |
| 10:04.23 | quiescens | reroll hunter |
| 10:04.24 | theoddone33 | I didn't have any mana problems after a spriest joined |
| 10:04.30 | theoddone33 | tonight in naxx 10 |
| 10:04.37 | theoddone33 | also I started doing 3500 dps on bosses |
| 10:05.46 | Grum | that dps is just retarded |
| 10:06.01 | Megalon | ah rakoz |
| 10:06.05 | Megalon | nice boomkin dps |
| 10:06.28 | SunTsu | Oddly enough when soloing the worst mana problem I have is with my hunter. warlock's fine, mage's fine, druid is feral, therefore fine, too. But my hunter is out of mana after two mobs |
| 10:06.38 | theoddone33 | rolling deep wounds put the fury warrior pretty high up in their raids |
| 10:06.38 | *** join/#wowace WyriHaximus (n=jezussie@i131220.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 10:06.50 | theoddone33 | according to all the math the warlocks should be beating the mages, dunno why they aren't |
| 10:07.13 | theoddone33 | possibly because that mage on top has a crazy amount of haste |
| 10:07.54 | Grum | what kind of gear do those people have? |
| 10:08.02 | Grum | because i dont see any of our mages push 5k dps @ Sapphiron O.o |
| 10:08.19 | theoddone33 | they've been clearing 25 mans since like 5 days in |
| 10:08.30 | theoddone33 | realm firsts on everything, etc |
| 10:08.38 | theoddone33 | they're a top 10 US guild |
| 10:08.59 | theoddone33 | I think they were actually 3rd US KJ kill |
| 10:09.31 | Grum | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alleria&n=Cheesycraft |
| 10:09.40 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:09.44 | theoddone33 | I have the same crit |
| 10:09.52 | theoddone33 | he's got 300 spell power on me |
| 10:10.01 | theoddone33 | and like twice the haste I have |
| 10:10.11 | Slayman | 3% more crit then me 500 Spellpower more and 300 more haste |
| 10:10.29 | Slayman | more haste would destroy my mana even faster |
| 10:10.39 | theoddone33 | it seems hard to run out in a 25 man |
| 10:10.43 | Slayman | need more dmg and crit to around 20% and need moar hit |
| 10:11.05 | Grum | as spriest i have biiiig problems manawise |
| 10:11.25 | theoddone33 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Spirestone&n=Thunderstung thihs is me |
| 10:11.30 | Slayman | Grum: me 2 as a mage, crystal on CD all tehe time |
| 10:12.32 | theoddone33 | I need to farm quests for the cloak pattern more |
| 10:12.36 | theoddone33 | but it's annoying |
| 10:13.15 | theoddone33 | I was gemming today not because I needed the mana but because I wanted the spell power proc |
| 10:13.30 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@ip72-208-180-134.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 10:13.41 | Grum | but it also appears their whole group is way above normal damage |
| 10:13.47 | Grum | thus bossfights get much shorter |
| 10:13.49 | theoddone33 | but last week in naxx I had big mana problems |
| 10:13.51 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:13.54 | Grum | thus you can easier cope with mana problems |
| 10:13.59 | theoddone33 | as your raid dps goes up it's much easier |
| 10:14.01 | Grum | anything 10m and i'm struggling for mana |
| 10:14.27 | Grum | i also guess they have a lagless instance |
| 10:14.48 | theoddone33 | I don't usually get replenishment though, tonight I did so it was nice |
| 10:14.59 | theoddone33 | I had molten up for everything except horsemen |
| 10:16.35 | theoddone33 | 88k raid dps is just insane |
| 10:16.36 | Grum | the crit percentages on mages is just silly |
| 10:16.47 | Grum | 88k is ok with heroism; not without or average:D |
| 10:19.22 | theoddone33 | hm premo got the achievement for killing malygos in under 5 minutes |
| 10:19.23 | Grum | and lol |
| 10:19.24 | Grum | indeed |
| 10:19.26 | Grum | i just saw it |
| 10:19.31 | Grum | that is just insanely retarded |
| 10:21.08 | *** join/#wowace Mytos (n=nate@c-76-99-111-229.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 10:21.18 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r65 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 10:21.19 | Repo | Default data for mages will no longer include portal spells for the opposing faction (Horde vs. Alliance) |
| 10:22.45 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r66 changelog.txt: clarified documentation |
| 10:22.47 | theoddone33 | heh |
| 10:23.00 | theoddone33 | cheesycraft's ignite was ticking for 8609 at one point on that patchwerk kill |
| 10:23.03 | *** join/#wowace Gibbonz (n=irc@router.tgfn.mywits-end.co.uk) |
| 10:23.24 | theoddone33 | max frostfire crit was 14781 |
| 10:23.33 | theoddone33 | I've crit nearly that high |
| 10:23.47 | theoddone33 | I think he just wins because his ffb is a 2.5s cast with all that passive haste |
| 10:25.26 | theoddone33 | pretty sure my top crit on a non-gimmick fight was 13.5k |
| 10:26.24 | Arrowmaster | hate you |
| 10:27.19 | theoddone33 | mages are so good right now |
| 10:27.25 | theoddone33 | dunno how long it will last thoughu |
| 10:27.44 | Grum | they should be nerfed to bit |
| 10:27.46 | Arrowmaster | i dont like being a mushroom again |
| 10:27.49 | Mytos | til next patch |
| 10:27.51 | Grum | but paladins are stupidly good as well |
| 10:28.17 | Grum | and i've seen hunters with the pet doing >50% of their dps |
| 10:28.23 | Grum | effectively doing over 2k dps o.O |
| 10:28.36 | theoddone33 | I dunno |
| 10:28.41 | theoddone33 | mages shouldn't even be top dps |
| 10:28.50 | Megalon | simulationcraft puts cheesycraft even higher in dps: 5.4k |
| 10:29.04 | Megalon | but the affliction warlock should be higher nontheless |
| 10:29.04 | theoddone33 | they should tune elemental shamans really |
| 10:29.09 | Gibbonz | Zeksie: if its possible, could you make the raid config observe the 'per character' option? I've noticed it writes data in every character's SavedVariables folder even when that option is unchecked |
| 10:29.09 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 10:29.25 | Xinhuan | "GOTTA GO" DOWN! WOO |
| 10:29.27 | theoddone33 | I dunno, I get the impression that lock is pretty hard to play well |
| 10:29.38 | Xinhuan | now i just need "Watch them Die" for drake ;p |
| 10:29.48 | Grum | Megalon: affliction locks dont scale that well afaik |
| 10:29.56 | Grum | or you need to just get spelldmg :P |
| 10:29.57 | *** join/#wowace HolgerDK (n=markj@0x57372ad4.nfnqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 10:30.00 | theoddone33 | simulationcraft likes them |
| 10:30.01 | theoddone33 | a lot |
| 10:30.20 | Megalon | but it does not like my boomkin :( |
| 10:30.21 | Arrowmaster | it takes a lot of focus to play affliction |
| 10:30.49 | theoddone33 | as spell dmg gets higher and higher they'll be forced to tone down mages |
| 10:30.57 | theoddone33 | but I will enjoy it for now |
| 10:31.02 | Grum | i think mages just crit too much |
| 10:31.20 | theoddone33 | that was the consensus with holy paladins too |
| 10:31.35 | theoddone33 | but they didn't take away all of their +crit talents |
| 10:31.37 | Grum | aye; so they nerfed mana returned from critting ;) |
| 10:31.40 | theoddone33 | they nerfed illumination |
| 10:31.52 | theoddone33 | so I figure they'll nerf a couple talents rather than screw with crit |
| 10:32.02 | theoddone33 | anyway sleep time |
| 10:32.10 | *** join/#wowace Groktar (n=gr@76-236-38-194.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:33.53 | Gibbonz | how do you lookup a project again? its been a while :) |
| 10:34.52 | Zhinjio | @project extractor |
| 10:34.53 | Repo | Zhinjio: http://www.wowace.com/projects/extractor/. Broker_Extractor. Game: WoW. Zhinjio (Manager). Updated: 23 hours ago |
| 10:35.01 | Zhinjio | eg |
| 10:35.11 | Grum | @project pie |
| 10:35.11 | Repo | Grum: No project found that matches 'pie' |
| 10:35.14 | Grum | DAMMMIT |
| 10:35.15 | Gibbonz | thanks :) |
| 10:35.16 | Zhinjio | opie? |
| 10:35.22 | Gibbonz | lol, there is no pie |
| 10:35.23 | Zhinjio | not on wowace, only on wowi |
| 10:35.28 | Grum | i just wanted pie :( |
| 10:35.29 | Arrowmaster | thats not a search btw |
| 10:35.31 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 10:35.36 | Arrowmaster | it takes exact matches only |
| 10:35.40 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 10:36.02 | Repo | 10broker_pv-p: 03tnt2ray * r42 / (7 files in 2 directories): Broker_PvP: |
| 10:36.03 | Repo | add zhCN and zhTW |
| 10:36.36 | Gibbonz | @project bagnon |
| 10:36.37 | Repo | Gibbonz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/bagnon/. Bagnon. Game: WoW. j85ason (Author), Tuller (Manager). Updated: 38 days ago. Tickets: 1/4 |
| 10:39.44 | Slayman | Bagnon's nice |
| 10:39.45 | Slayman | me likee |
| 10:40.57 | Gibbonz | yep, just have a couple suggestions for its author but it doesnt appear they're here atm :) |
| 10:42.05 | Gibbonz | prefer irc to forums etc.. |
| 10:42.34 | Slayman | it's direct instead of proxied |
| 10:43.19 | Slayman | what're your suggestions? |
| 10:44.43 | Gibbonz | like xperl's raid config, its settings are all stored per character, so an option or change to make it use the global SavedVariables folder would be nice |
| 10:45.35 | Slayman | that's minor |
| 10:45.36 | Gibbonz | as would the option to show inuse/free/total slots available |
| 10:46.31 | Slayman | can't you like splice or copy a changed version to curseforge, and tell Tuller or whoever is progging it to look at it and take it to the maintrunk? |
| 10:46.34 | Xinhuan | @project cake |
| 10:46.35 | Repo | Xinhuan: No project found that matches 'cake' |
| 10:46.45 | Slayman | Xinhuan: epic fail |
| 10:47.08 | Slayman | The Cake Is A Lie! |
| 10:47.20 | Zhinjio | I'm gonna wait a day and see if Borlax will do anything with that ticket before I go making changes to my addon(s) |
| 10:47.29 | Zhinjio | Heya Xinhuan. |
| 10:47.54 | Xinhuan | hi :) |
| 10:51.05 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio * r35 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Added frFR (thanks Markam!) |
| 10:52.16 | Repo | 10broker-hitcrit: 03Zhinjio 042.3-release * r36 : Tagging as 2.3-release |
| 10:55.33 | Gibbonz | brb, power cut so ups wont hold it up for long ;p |
| 10:55.38 | Gibbonz | my room only lol |
| 10:55.42 | *** part/#wowace Raffe (n=dfsdf@fou183.telenor.ntnu.no) |
| 11:03.34 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r67 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added more default messages for mages and priests |
| 11:14.23 | *** join/#wowace Torhal_ (n=Torhal@74-130-231-128.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 11:14.48 | *** join/#wowace Belazor (n=Vulcanus@19513452036.customer.cdi.no) |
| 11:27.28 | *** join/#wowace sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 11:28.08 | sylvanaar | good morning |
| 11:29.57 | Zhinjio | g'morning. |
| 11:31.05 | waallen | is www.wowace.com currently down? |
| 11:31.46 | *** join/#wowace Higdur (n=nike@nl119-202-155.student.uu.se) |
| 11:32.50 | spode | working here |
| 11:33.32 | waallen | oh, it's working again |
| 11:38.29 | *** join/#wowace Sliker_Hawk (i=SlikerHa@5ac68f09.bb.sky.com) |
| 11:38.52 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 041.6.0b-6 * r708 : Tagging as 1.6.0b-6 |
| 11:42.34 | *** join/#wowace Movix (n=mattes@82.242.144.196) |
| 11:45.05 | Repo | 10libfubarplugin-3-0: 03gizmo1972 * r61 LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: Possible fix for blank detached tooltips. |
| 11:45.06 | Repo | Possible fix detached tooltips not appearing on reload, etc. |
| 11:45.07 | Repo | Sees to be working properly, needs more testing. |
| 11:46.16 | *** join/#wowace nekoh (n=nekoh@p4FD8AA81.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:46.16 | Stanzilla | in before arrowmaster enrage |
| 11:46.23 | Slayman | you can tranq shot the flame adds on sartharion? that should have been told to me! |
| 11:47.03 | Slayman | I'm outa here! |
| 11:47.30 | sylvanaar | haha |
| 11:55.22 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=evl@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 11:56.27 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: BTW. HitCrit has an issue with spells that differ in spellid but have the same name |
| 11:57.02 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: Like warlock's shadowbolt <-> pendent of acumen's shadowbolt |
| 11:57.22 | SunTsu | Both always sho up as a new record |
| 11:57.40 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 11:59.10 | evl | Border textures and overlapping, can a border texture be something like 128x8 instead of the standard 128x16? |
| 12:12.39 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@brsg-4dbb7c6a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 12:31.44 | Zhinjio | SunTsu: that is true. I need to deal with them as individual exceptions. Please ticket each one of those that you find. |
| 12:31.54 | SunTsu | Zhinjio: Will do |
| 12:38.04 | *** join/#wowace papy|2nd (n=madlener@iss63.vlsi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 12:38.24 | Repo | 10broker_money: 03tnt2ray * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): fix AceConfig-3.0 |
| 12:38.40 | *** join/#wowace papyros (n=madlener@iss63.vlsi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 12:38.42 | papyros | alt kopmpliziert |
| 12:38.59 | papyros | fc |
| 12:40.00 | *** join/#wowace Lyn (n=Lyn@Lcf3f.l.pppool.de) |
| 12:40.57 | Belazor | fehler chat? ;p |
| 12:42.45 | Belazor | Zhinjio: Any chance of HitCrit getting a feature to ignore damage dealt while under a damage boosting buff and similar scenarios? I had to drop like all my data after the UC quest since 20k attacks aren't normal :p |
| 12:44.01 | SunTsu | Belazor: Ha! Damn, I was just trying to remember what I wanted to ask Zhinjio - you just beat me ;) |
| 12:44.28 | Belazor | ^^ |
| 12:44.46 | Repo | 10broker_money: 03tnt2ray * r11 .pkgmeta: mistake.... |
| 12:45.41 | Fin | anyone know where I can get an updated list of servers, both EU and US? |
| 12:46.12 | *** join/#wowace SinusPi (n=sinus@aaqa250.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 12:46.36 | Fin | (preferably in an easily parseable format) |
| 12:47.57 | Fin | finds one at http://www.wowprogress.com/profile |
| 12:51.47 | *** join/#wowace nuoHep (n=nuoHep@89.222.156.36) |
| 12:54.57 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84-119-64-174.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 12:58.20 | Repo | 10broker_money: 03tnt2ray * r12 / (2 files in 1 directory): AceGUI-3.0... |
| 13:04.41 | *** join/#wowace Kirkburn (n=Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 13:06.02 | *** join/#wowace kenlyric (n=kenlyric@skenlam.itpo.iu.edu) |
| 13:07.56 | *** join/#wowace Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 13:08.02 | *** join/#wowace Groktar (n=gr@76-236-38-194.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:08.05 | Groktar | pounces |
| 13:11.36 | Groktar | flays your soul |
| 13:12.06 | Repo | 10fu-bar_skills-plus-fu: 03Jaydehawk * r123 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 13:12.07 | Repo | FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 13:12.07 | Repo | 3.0.3 |
| 13:12.09 | Repo | - added cooldown for Smelt Titansteel (Calesta) |
| 13:12.13 | Repo | - added cooldown for Transmute: Titanium |
| 13:12.40 | Repo | 10fu-bar_skills-plus-fu: 03Jaydehawk 04v3.0.3 * r124 : Tagging as v3.0.3 |
| 13:15.06 | *** join/#wowace papyros (n=madlener@iss63.vlsi.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) |
| 13:22.41 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 13:27.20 | *** join/#wowace blay (n=KevFlow@50.206.8.67.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 13:27.38 | Pneumatus | heh, one more addon that can stop being marked dirty |
| 13:31.17 | gix | is that only me or is rawr *slow* as fuck? |
| 13:31.20 | *** join/#wowace harl (i=harl@dslb-088-077-148-132.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:39.06 | Megalon | rawr is so full of fail :x |
| 13:41.00 | Megalon | and gix, it's not you, it's rawr, it updates all items ratings (for all items with every know gemvariation there is) every time you do anything :S |
| 13:41.12 | Industrial | y it segfaults on 2/3 of my items too |
| 13:41.13 | Industrial | :\ |
| 13:42.03 | Megalon | i just deleted it, perhaps it's nice for rawr.bear |
| 13:49.53 | gix | Megalon: i doubt it's that. it takes like 10mins to start |
| 13:51.05 | gix | maybe i should indeed continue on my webapp with a wow-engine-clone as backend. |
| 13:51.59 | gix | Megalon: rawr saves everything as xml. i guess that doesn't really help. |
| 13:52.30 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 13:57.27 | evl | Can Textures be 64x8? |
| 13:57.31 | *** join/#wowace Vegeta]BT[ (n=Vegeta-G@xdslea229.osnanet.de) |
| 13:58.39 | Fin | thought they had to be squares |
| 13:59.08 | evl | edgeFiles don't have to be squares ofc. |
| 13:59.20 | Fin | shows how much I know about textures in WoW |
| 13:59.38 | *** join/#wowace LANFiRE (n=lanfire@ppp91-76-41-216.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 14:01.49 | pomp | What's a nice addon that keeps a history of quests you've done? |
| 14:05.38 | Repo | 10broker_transit: 03StormFX * r15 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Squashed a bug preventing spells from showing up. |
| 14:05.39 | Repo | - Updated frFR (whynona2) |
| 14:05.40 | Repo | - Cleaned up some silliness. |
| 14:06.26 | *** join/#wowace Next96 (i=Next96@121.129.140.56) |
| 14:06.36 | Pneumatus | lack of achievement for sons of hodir exalted makes me sad :< |
| 14:07.03 | gix | pomp: i use a rewritten version of QuestHistory. works fine, for me at least, and most importantly tracks questids. but it's gui is a bit foobar atm :p |
| 14:08.41 | Repo | 10broker_transit: 03StormFX 043.0.3_BETA * r16 : 3.0.3_BETA: Final Beta. |
| 14:10.21 | *** join/#wowace EthanCentaurai (n=ethan@78.147.180.254) |
| 14:11.13 | *** join/#wowace digmouse (n=chatzill@123.112.72.176) |
| 14:11.49 | *** join/#wowace RockSlice (i=kvirc@c-68-56-8-215.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 14:16.19 | dieck | hi! we had no moonkin before wotlk in our raid, and now arises a new problem: how do you handle loot distribution with moonkins? as there is few leather caster gear, they argument as main spec moonkins they have the same right to need cloth caster gear, and the cloth casters argument they don't want to share with moonkins, as they have only cloth wether moonkins have leather at least as an option |
| 14:17.57 | Bruners | dieck: thers like loads of leather spell power gear |
| 14:18.03 | pentium166 | did your resto druids roll on cloth before? |
| 14:18.07 | SunTsu | dieck: I'd put them second, because it's not their native gear class |
| 14:18.15 | dieck | Bruners: yes, but mostly with spirit (old healer gear), none with e.g. hit |
| 14:18.29 | Kalroth | cloth for clothies first, other classes second. |
| 14:18.37 | Kalroth | same with leather |
| 14:19.16 | SunTsu | dieck: It's the same as mail for off warriors or leather for hunters. If nobody of the native class has need they can get it |
| 14:19.28 | Kalroth | If an oomkin wants cloth drops, then he better wait until the classes the drop was meant for is done looting it. |
| 14:19.31 | *** join/#wowace lmeyer (n=lars@dslb-082-083-195-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 14:19.45 | dieck | that's my line of thinking, too :) |
| 14:20.03 | *** join/#wowace Mordreade (n=chatzill@pool-71-122-113-226.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 14:20.15 | SunTsu | dieck: There definitively is moonkin gear |
| 14:20.32 | *** join/#wowace Quezacolt (n=chatzill@119.94.31.225) |
| 14:20.44 | Megalon | dieck: i have a link for you |
| 14:20.56 | *** join/#wowace Matrix110 (i=Matrix11@pD957DC71.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:21.21 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.2&filter=qu=4;minrl=80;cr=51:48;crs=1:1;crv=0:0 |
| 14:22.02 | dieck | ok. 4 items, t7 heads and shoulders? :) |
| 14:22.24 | Kalroth | uhm? |
| 14:22.25 | Megalon | it boils down to 2 slots where you can get hit with leatheritems |
| 14:22.26 | Megalon | :S |
| 14:22.41 | Megalon | for mookins :( |
| 14:24.18 | Kalroth | Megalon: How much +hit does an oomkin need after talents and buffs? |
| 14:25.35 | Megalon | 262 |
| 14:27.09 | *** join/#wowace p3lim (n=p3lim@212251216176.customer.cdi.no) |
| 14:30.47 | Megalon | well 263 even, with 2/2 BoP and misery |
| 14:30.59 | Megalon | 237 for alliance :C |
| 14:31.05 | thul | ach, firm's christmas party tonight |
| 14:31.09 | pentium166 | :C |
| 14:31.25 | *** join/#wowace Lysithea (i=Lyset@c-794ee455.017-172-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:31.25 | pentium166 | assuming your draenei doesn't get smashed |
| 14:31.48 | Kalroth | 20 hit rating from gloves, 12 hit rating from boots, now we're down to 230 hit rating! Ebonweave robe and gloves and we're down to 111 hit rating! The leather hat and you're down to 69 hit rating. Eat a snapper and you're down to 29 hit rating. |
| 14:31.53 | Megalon | you mean, one of the 234 after tbc? |
| 14:31.54 | Megalon | :x |
| 14:32.26 | dieck | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=qu=4;ty=2:-3:-6:8:-5:-2:-7:-4:-8:0;minle=175;ub=11;cr=48:37;crs=1:3;crv=0:0 |
| 14:32.46 | dieck | there are a good bunch of items granting hit to moonkins without taking cloth gear |
| 14:32.51 | pentium166 | not that many people have/had a level capped draenei in my (small) guild |
| 14:33.04 | Kalroth | No dieck, druids don't use neck/trinket/weapons |
| 14:33.06 | Megalon | Kalroth: oh, exactly the same each cloth wearer can do and then give dps cloth to moonkins |
| 14:33.13 | Megalon | ;) |
| 14:33.33 | Kalroth | maybe if that cloth wearer had access to leather items too, sure :) |
| 14:33.52 | Kalroth | but like dieck pointed out, you can break 265 hit rating without ever looting clothes |
| 14:34.07 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03ananhaid * r238 locales (2 files in 1 directory): Mendeleev: |
| 14:34.07 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 14:34.08 | Kalroth | or 263 |
| 14:34.41 | Kalroth | And that's even leaving gems out of the equation :) |
| 14:35.52 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth______ (n=chatzill@118-169-198-168.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 14:35.57 | Megalon | yep that is really nice |
| 14:36.09 | Megalon | because all clothies will pass on necks/ring/trinkets with hit on it |
| 14:36.14 | Megalon | for me |
| 14:36.16 | Megalon | :D |
| 14:36.18 | Megalon | :[ |
| 14:36.32 | dieck | Megalon: no, but they will pass on leather with caster use :) |
| 14:36.45 | *** join/#wowace EvilJohn- (n=eviljohn@rrcs-24-153-227-226.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 14:37.13 | Megalon | blizzards approach to "not make every item perfect" |
| 14:37.21 | Megalon | translated on leather caster to "make 99% shit" |
| 14:37.57 | *** join/#wowace maddeathelf (n=chatzill@92.6.251.118) |
| 14:38.01 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r87 / (2 files in 1 directory): InventoryOnPar: - |
| 14:38.02 | Repo | drycoded northrend gem changes. |
| 14:38.15 | Megalon | at least it's not as bad as shamies |
| 14:38.19 | Megalon | getting spirit necks |
| 14:38.21 | Megalon | :X |
| 14:38.53 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth______ (n=chatzill@118-169-198-168.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 14:42.28 | *** join/#wowace jnwhiteh (i=jnw@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 14:42.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+v jnwhiteh] by ChanServ |
| 14:42.47 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth______ (n=chatzill@118-169-198-168.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 14:43.05 | thul | what do you guys think will be the next hero class? |
| 14:43.31 | Kalroth | The Kalroth. |
| 14:43.36 | Kalroth | It's a mighty orc. |
| 14:44.37 | thul | :-P |
| 14:44.39 | thul | clerics? |
| 14:44.43 | pentium166 | melee hunters |
| 14:44.43 | thul | monks? |
| 14:44.54 | renchap | Bards |
| 14:45.01 | Kalroth | Farmers |
| 14:45.27 | Kalroth | Pitchfork, redneck accent and the ability to grind 500g/hr |
| 14:45.32 | Pneumatus | a new leather/mail wearing healer/dps hybrid |
| 14:46.22 | thul | I love my dk though, but so do most I guess |
| 14:47.47 | *** join/#wowace topsub (n=josh@97.66.185.250) |
| 14:48.36 | Pneumatus | 500g/hr is nothing for a herbalist |
| 14:49.24 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 14:49.57 | *** join/#wowace Worf (n=worf@84-119-64-174.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:49.57 | *** join/#wowace Sirow (n=Sirow001@p57A4D80E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:50.58 | thul | Pneumatus: it was quite easy as a skinner pre-wotlk too |
| 14:51.00 | thul | dunno about now though |
| 14:51.16 | dieck | hm, i don't know, but if the next hero class is due with 4.0, which is rumored to be the Emerald Dream, I'd think of a green dragon aspect kind of hero class |
| 14:51.25 | Pneumatus | on my realm at least, Lichbloom sells for like 140g a stack |
| 14:51.44 | thul | on my realm, nether dragon scales used to go for 70-100g pr stack |
| 14:51.49 | thul | hmm, make that half stack |
| 14:51.57 | thul | 10xnether dragon scales for 70-100g. |
| 14:55.11 | *** join/#wowace MoonWolf (n=MoonWolf@dhcp-077-250-123-106.chello.nl) |
| 14:55.12 | *** mode/#wowace [+o MoonWolf] by ChanServ |
| 14:56.39 | *** join/#wowace Camci (i=Camci@ua-83-227-134-226.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:56.42 | *** part/#wowace Camci (i=Camci@ua-83-227-134-226.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:56.49 | thul | hey hey hey! hey hey hey! It's a summer holidaaaay |
| 14:56.51 | thul | hey hey heeeeey |
| 14:57.02 | thul | (this went on repeat, forever, at the resort I stayed at in egypt in january :-( ) |
| 14:57.07 | thul | it is still on my mind |
| 14:57.13 | thul | they alternated between "summer" and "sunny" |
| 14:57.13 | thul | .. |
| 14:57.14 | thul | fuck |
| 14:58.24 | *** join/#wowace steino (n=steino@c510083A9.inet.catch.no) |
| 15:01.58 | Bruners | hugs steino |
| 15:03.00 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth______ (n=chatzill@118-169-198-168.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 15:04.33 | chexsum_ | hey hey hey its fat albert |
| 15:04.45 | chexsum_ | im gonna sing a song for you |
| 15:05.58 | EvilJohn- | na na na na gonna have a good time |
| 15:06.18 | *** join/#wowace [SW]Dodge (n=Miranda@p508CE432.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:06.28 | thul | http://fc81.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2008/339/b/a/ba8bb55a5d93a9b254eca1af132fd69f.jpg < that pic is quite magical :-D (nsfw) |
| 15:07.53 | [SW]Dodge | :D |
| 15:11.11 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=evl@unaffiliated/evl) |
| 15:11.17 | evl | Any API function to check if a unit is dead? |
| 15:11.20 | evl | other than UnitHealth |
| 15:11.50 | evl | nvm :( |
| 15:12.02 | Pneumatus | UnitIsDead? |
| 15:12.04 | Megalon | obvious function is obvious |
| 15:12.07 | Megalon | ? :D |
| 15:12.59 | [SW]Dodge | ! :D |
| 15:13.10 | evl | I made a typo wheb searching :( |
| 15:15.37 | Repo | 10torta: 03Quezacolt * r13 / (7 files in 2 directories): - Added key binding option to toggle the main window |
| 15:15.38 | Repo | - Search feature now mostly works |
| 15:15.57 | Fin | crosses his fingers that someone will respond to his Curse.com username request |
| 15:16.06 | Fin | it would be so nice to be able to get wowace and curse synced finally |
| 15:20.59 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03ananhaid * r140 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Boss-3.0: |
| 15:21.01 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 15:25.01 | *** join/#wowace cncfanatics (n=cncfanat@WoWUIDev/cncfanatics) |
| 15:27.59 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 15:29.07 | thul | goooooo'day |
| 15:36.21 | cncfanatics | Kaelten: wowdb needs fixing |
| 15:36.33 | Kaelten | oh? |
| 15:36.35 | Kaelten | how so? |
| 15:36.37 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r73 Libs/Karma-1.0 (4 files in 1 directory): -fixing revision issue |
| 15:36.39 | cncfanatics | http://www.wowdb.com/object.aspx?id=175404 nodes got duplicated |
| 15:36.47 | cncfanatics | guess it was when the epl map changed |
| 15:36.52 | cncfanatics | guessing its the same for all objects on the epl map |
| 15:37.06 | ckknight | Kaelten: you need to get your ims working |
| 15:37.18 | Kaelten | ckknight: it's aim |
| 15:37.22 | Kaelten | never lets me sign in hardly |
| 15:37.25 | Kaelten | not from here |
| 15:37.31 | ckknight | yea, that matters cause I messaged you on jabber |
| 15:38.00 | Kaelten | gtalk? it messes up sometimes if I haven't talked from a new location |
| 15:39.19 | cncfanatics | Kaelten: any way to get mining nodes fixed ? :) pretty important to me as I'm farming thorium and gathermate gets data from wowdb |
| 15:39.36 | Kaelten | I'll pass it along |
| 15:40.36 | Kaelten | is it just EPL? |
| 15:40.52 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: ^ |
| 15:42.36 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r74 Libs/Karma-1.0 (4 files in 1 directory): -fixing revision issue |
| 15:43.30 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03ananhaid * r159 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: LibBabble-Zone-3.0: |
| 15:43.31 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 15:43.48 | ulic | anyone know if guids valid to use as unitid for UnitBuff()? |
| 15:44.03 | ulic | +are |
| 15:44.51 | evl | nevcairiel: thanks for the Unregister tip, works like a charm |
| 15:45.13 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r75 locales/localization.lua: -fixing revision issue |
| 15:49.00 | cncfanatics | Kaelten: afaik, yes |
| 15:49.12 | cncfanatics | Kaelten: can't come up with any other areas that got their coordinates changed recently |
| 15:50.14 | *** join/#wowace ckknight (n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight) |
| 15:50.14 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 15:50.26 | Kaelten | kk |
| 15:51.34 | Kaelten | cncfanatics: ok just talked to that project lead, he says he'll get it fixed next week |
| 15:51.44 | Kaelten | he's in the middle of something he can't drop atm |
| 15:51.54 | cncfanatics | its prolly just a few mins to fix it, but meh ok |
| 15:52.09 | cncfanatics | thanks :) |
| 15:53.12 | thul | http://www.wulffmorgenthaler.com/strip.aspx?id=56f731f0-c691-4775-b8a2-8493cb3a93ef |
| 15:54.03 | *** join/#wowace Yssaril (n=Yssaril@adsl-99-145-237-190.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:54.36 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r76 Libs/Karma-1.0 (4 files in 1 directory): -fixing revision issue |
| 15:54.58 | *** join/#wowace [dRaCo] (n=drc@brsg-4dbb7c6a.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 15:55.30 | Mech0z | Hmm I thought the wowace site was dead, is it only the updater that is gone? |
| 15:55.48 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: what was the mob name (or location) where you could endlessly level your weaponskill without agroing/taking dmg? |
| 15:59.19 | nevcairiel | the gargoyle in icecrown? |
| 15:59.34 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 15:59.37 | nevcairiel | dunno specifics, though :) |
| 15:59.39 | Hirsute | Mech0z: It's not dead, but the addons are no longer being hosted there, thus the updater will no longer work. |
| 15:59.47 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r472 / (4 files in 3 directories): - Added Ichoron Module(Violet Hold) |
| 15:59.48 | Repo | - King Ymiron: Changed some language |
| 15:59.49 | Repo | - Krystallus: Split out shatterBar as it's own option |
| 15:59.50 | Repo | - Loken: Fix for Nova Bar, cast time is different on normal/heroic |
| 16:01.34 | ulic | Mech0z: wowace addons are syndicated via curse.com now. |
| 16:02.54 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (n=Ryan_L@adsl-177-41-67.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 16:03.42 | *** join/#wowace Kalroth (n=kalroth@2506ds1-hj.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 16:04.37 | *** join/#wowace Ghli (n=Ghli@32.154.159.131) |
| 16:05.16 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@ip72-208-180-134.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 16:06.55 | Megalon | Yssaril: already fixed |
| 16:08.48 | *** join/#wowace faCe| (n=f@p5489E5A1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:18.18 | cncfanatics | Windows is FAIL |
| 16:18.26 | cncfanatics | Vista Error 10107: A system call that should never fail has failed |
| 16:18.27 | Grum | <3 |
| 16:18.31 | Yssaril | Megalon: thanks /cry |
| 16:18.34 | Grum | oh |
| 16:18.38 | Grum | vista is doublefail btw |
| 16:18.43 | Grum | it can fail unfailable should not fail fails |
| 16:18.47 | cncfanatics | Grum: that is an actual error in vista ... |
| 16:18.58 | Grum | ofc; that is what they added to XP to make it Vista |
| 16:19.15 | Grum | other than a graphical shell that requires massive pc upgrades |
| 16:19.21 | Grum | its a giant conspiracy i tell you@ |
| 16:19.28 | cncfanatics | which can be done with mesa in linux, for the record |
| 16:19.56 | Grum | lies |
| 16:20.11 | Grum | linux doesnt do crappy DX OS graphics |
| 16:20.33 | cncfanatics | it can do nice & fancy opengl graphics though |
| 16:20.53 | cncfanatics | (not that I'm using em though, I'm not into 3d desktops) |
| 16:21.11 | Grum | lol |
| 16:21.17 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_RecZone: |
| 16:21.17 | Grum | aero only wish it was a 3d desktop |
| 16:21.18 | Repo | - Playing around with the column formatting |
| 16:21.19 | Repo | - Added no-lib-strip tags to the embeds.xml |
| 16:21.23 | Grum | then maybe the performance penalty was justified |
| 16:21.43 | cncfanatics | performance penalty ? :o |
| 16:21.50 | cncfanatics | its nearly non-existant in linux with 3d desktops |
| 16:21.55 | Grum | do you play wow fullscreen? |
| 16:22.00 | Grum | or do you have multiple screens? |
| 16:22.19 | cncfanatics | I'm on a laptop, but I play it in windowed, maximized, borderless mode :) |
| 16:22.34 | cncfanatics | makes it so there is no delay between switching workspaces |
| 16:23.00 | Grum | so you for all intents and purposes play fullscreen :) |
| 16:23.53 | cncfanatics | except codewise, yes |
| 16:23.53 | *** join/#wowace Belazor (n=Vulcanus@19513452036.customer.cdi.no) |
| 16:24.06 | Grum | so you dont have problems with it |
| 16:24.13 | Grum | i have a dualscreen setup and play windowed mode ... |
| 16:24.22 | Grum | can you say bye 50% fps? |
| 16:24.33 | cncfanatics | doesn't rly matter ? |
| 16:24.40 | cncfanatics | I prolly wldnt notice if I lost 50% fps |
| 16:24.47 | cncfanatics | and I'm on a laptop with powersave on most of the time >.> |
| 16:24.51 | Grum | you need a better laptop then >< |
| 16:25.28 | cncfanatics | the fact i wouldn't notice it means Its already so high that it wouldn't bother me losing 50% ;) |
| 16:25.55 | Grum | right; so you have >100fps? :P |
| 16:26.16 | cncfanatics | 82 atm |
| 16:26.33 | cncfanatics | couldn't care less being at 41 >.> |
| 16:26.37 | Grum | doing nothing; now raiding thats prolly 30-40 .. halve that :) |
| 16:27.48 | gix | hm. apparently it is PitBullUnitFrame4 which is calling GameTooltip-stuff without a unit set. |
| 16:28.08 | cncfanatics | true |
| 16:28.25 | Grum | suddenly you notice :/ |
| 16:28.53 | cncfanatics | remove a screen :D |
| 16:29.08 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03Elkano * r239 / (3 files in 2 directories): - tweaked 'used in' tree a bit |
| 16:29.10 | Repo | - you can now set the minimal skill advance required for items to show up in that tree |
| 16:29.11 | Repo | 10broker_garbagefu: 03LordFarlander * r2 / (20 files in 2 directories): Broker_GarbageFu |
| 16:29.12 | Repo | - Initial check-in, Broker version of GarbageFu |
| 16:35.25 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 16:38.21 | *** join/#wowace Odlaw (n=ozzy@c-98-245-75-224.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 16:38.36 | *** join/#wowace [Liquidor] (n=denras19@fw-tk-1.ruc.dk) |
| 16:44.03 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r88 / (3 files in 1 directory): InventoryOnPar: - |
| 16:44.04 | Repo | drycoded removing Spell Penetration from IOP PvE scoring |
| 16:44.04 | Repo | Also migrated to LibItemBonus-2.0 and removed Gratuity-2.0 |
| 16:46.07 | *** join/#wowace Carepolice (n=Samsung@cm114061.red83-165.mundo-r.com) |
| 16:48.18 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:48.19 | Repo | added DB version check and disable addon if newer DB version is found to protect your data |
| 16:48.37 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak * r35 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:48.38 | Repo | added DB version check and disable addon if newer DB version is found to protect your data |
| 16:49.48 | Repo | 10handy-notes_trainers: 03zarevak 04v1.1.2 Release * r16 : Tagging as v1.1.2 Release |
| 16:50.16 | Repo | 10handy-notes_vendors: 03zarevak 04v1.0.4 Release * r36 : Tagging as v1.0.4 Release |
| 16:53.14 | Hirsute | ckknight: 1)Are you still developing Cart 3? 2)Should bug reports be submitted via WoWAce? |
| 16:54.21 | *** join/#wowace cirish (n=cirish@71.36.172.153) |
| 16:57.58 | ckknight | Hirsute: (1) sorta, depending on how busy I am (2) yes |
| 16:58.31 | Hirsute | ckknight: Sounds good. |
| 17:00.48 | *** join/#wowace basslingo (n=MurpdOfM@69.149.82.149) |
| 17:03.28 | *** join/#wowace Lisimba (n=kaas@s55915088.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 17:10.20 | *** join/#wowace Silker_Hawk (i=SlikerHa@5acb4f14.bb.sky.com) |
| 17:12.10 | *** join/#wowace Tinyboom (n=nahh@178.80-202-153.nextgentel.com) |
| 17:12.20 | *** join/#wowace maddeathelf (n=chatzill@92.6.251.118) |
| 17:12.47 | *** join/#wowace Bousteur (n=Bousteur@lns-bzn-56-82-255-215-120.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 17:13.16 | Bousteur | hello, i would like to find an OMEN version which works with 2.4.3 version |
| 17:13.57 | ckknight | indoor voice |
| 17:14.12 | ckknight | why do you need that, Bousteur? |
| 17:14.12 | EthanCentaurai | 2.4.3 version? private server scum |
| 17:14.20 | ckknight | not necessarily, EthanCentaurai |
| 17:14.22 | ckknight | could be Chinese |
| 17:14.36 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/omen-threat-meter.aspx |
| 17:14.40 | Xinhuan | can download older zips |
| 17:14.48 | EthanCentaurai | probably, I've had a bad day and am a bit jumpy atm :/ |
| 17:14.48 | ckknight | though I thought the Chinese were going to upgrade to 3.0 real soon... |
| 17:15.19 | maddeathelf | don't suppose anyone can help me out with a barfworthy problem i'm having with AceDB-3.0! |
| 17:15.51 | Bousteur | Xinhuan older zips only works with 3.0.2 version |
| 17:16.05 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 17:16.10 | Xinhuan | i thought there were older zips |
| 17:16.16 | Xinhuan | did they get purged |
| 17:16.31 | Bousteur | perhaps |
| 17:16.41 | Bousteur | that's why i'm here |
| 17:17.23 | Xinhuan | i don't think i kept a copy heh |
| 17:17.56 | Bousteur | :-/ |
| 17:18.29 | quiescens | go to sleep xinhuan |
| 17:18.42 | Xinhuan | good idea! |
| 17:18.49 | Bousteur | I have access to all older archives, but i don't know which the good one is |
| 17:19.08 | Bousteur | http://files.wowace.com/Omen/ |
| 17:19.13 | Bousteur | so i'm scruded |
| 17:19.16 | *** join/#wowace Iboong (n=user@77.87.207.194) |
| 17:19.33 | Xinhuan | none of them are "latest" 2.4.3 |
| 17:19.43 | Xinhuan | but you can use the latest one, at the very bottom |
| 17:19.48 | Xinhuan | sep 20 |
| 17:19.59 | Xinhuan | it won't work for many boss abilities in sunwell |
| 17:20.05 | Xinhuan | since those were updated pretty late |
| 17:20.34 | Bousteur | okay i try this one |
| 17:22.34 | maddeathelf | i've done something really nooby and can't look up the data in my saved DB. keeps giving me "attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value)". Don't suppose anyone can think what i've missed? |
| 17:23.01 | Xinhuan | accessing data too early? |
| 17:23.31 | Bousteur | it seems it works fine |
| 17:23.35 | maddeathelf | don't think so. it's looking for it when i open the frame. DB profile is set on initialise |
| 17:24.27 | Xinhuan | pastey code |
| 17:24.28 | maddeathelf | it's since my very late upgrade to AceDB-3.0 |
| 17:24.49 | quiescens | incorrect scope? |
| 17:24.53 | Bousteur | thank you very much Xinhuan :-) works really fine |
| 17:25.15 | Xinhuan | Bousteur, it should! considering i wrote part of it ;p |
| 17:25.38 | Bousteur | good work ! |
| 17:27.26 | *** join/#wowace Antiarc (n=Antiarc@wsip-70-167-195-98.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 17:27.28 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 17:28.43 | maddeathelf | http://www.pastey.net/103727 |
| 17:29.18 | *** join/#wowace Paene (n=jim@97-83-153-103.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 17:29.38 | Xinhuan | you're registering defaults too early |
| 17:29.41 | maddeathelf | sorry ignore most of the comments. i'm halfway through getting rid of the old ace libraries. which is where the problemstarted |
| 17:29.43 | Xinhuan | do it in your OnInit |
| 17:29.51 | Xinhuan | see omen3 code for an example |
| 17:30.05 | Primer | I recently borrowed some omen code |
| 17:30.05 | Xinhuan | look for the OnInitialize() in omen3 |
| 17:30.07 | Primer | good stuff |
| 17:30.28 | maddeathelf | ty Xinhuan |
| 17:31.35 | Primer | Is it possible to add newlines to a fontstring? What's the proper way to handle dynamic multi-lined areas of text in a frame? |
| 17:31.37 | Xinhuan | you have my permission to copy code :) |
| 17:31.50 | Primer | Xinhuan: thank you |
| 17:32.10 | Xinhuan | just add "\n" as part of the fontstring |
| 17:32.20 | Primer | I was hoping it would be that simple |
| 17:32.22 | Primer | thanks |
| 17:37.16 | *** part/#wowace Bousteur (n=Bousteur@lns-bzn-56-82-255-215-120.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 17:39.59 | ckknight | k, made a real announcement about the per-project RBAC: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/per-project-role-based-access-control-system/ |
| 17:43.35 | maddeathelf | Xinhuan - http://www.pastey.net/103727 (same url). i really don't understand what i've changed there tbh. it's giving me the same error anyway >.< |
| 17:44.02 | Xinhuan | whats the error |
| 17:44.16 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:45.11 | cncfanatics | anyone got an alternative to gathermate ? |
| 17:45.17 | maddeathelf | same as before: attempt to index field 'db' (a nil value) |
| 17:45.35 | Xinhuan | on which line |
| 17:46.22 | Repo | 10broker_transit: 03next96 * r17 Locales/koKR.lua: Broker_Transit : |
| 17:46.23 | Repo | - Update locale koKR |
| 17:46.24 | maddeathelf | 83 and everywhere else i use .db in the whole project |
| 17:46.34 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r89 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 6 lines) |
| 17:46.35 | Repo | InventoryOnPar: - |
| 17:46.36 | Repo | v12.00 - Altered gem calculation to give Outland gems a lower bonus |
| 17:46.36 | *** join/#wowace p4aved (n=dave@123-243-26-39.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 17:46.39 | Repo | Added Northrend gem calcs to be more valuable than Outland gems |
| 17:46.43 | Repo | Added Perfect gem check to give extra bonus if gem is "perfect". |
| 17:46.50 | Xinhuan | you realize line 71 |
| 17:47.01 | Xinhuan | is setting EPGP.db to nil right? |
| 17:47.10 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles 04v12.00 * r90 : InventoryOnPar: - |
| 17:47.10 | Repo | Release v12.00 to Curse.com |
| 17:47.22 | Xinhuan | since there's no upvalue or local variable called "db" |
| 17:47.22 | maddeathelf | and that's why i'm a retard and you're a god |
| 17:49.42 | maddeathelf | Xinhuan if you oculd do me a favour and forget this conversation ever existed. i'd feel a lot better about it and wont have to cry myself to sleep |
| 17:49.48 | Xinhuan | :p |
| 17:50.52 | cncfanatics | maddeathelf: I won't forget |
| 17:50.55 | cncfanatics | ~epic fail maddeathelf |
| 17:50.56 | purl | maddeathelf, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you maddeathelf, you are that epic failure. |
| 17:51.35 | *** part/#wowace Paene (n=jim@97-83-153-103.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 17:51.49 | maddeathelf | w00t i'm famous! |
| 17:52.06 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r91 InventoryOnPar.lua: InventoryOnPar: - |
| 17:52.07 | Repo | v12.01 - Remove extra gem debug info |
| 17:52.31 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles 04v12.01 * r92 : InventoryOnPar: - |
| 17:52.32 | Repo | Release v12.01 to Curse.com |
| 17:52.44 | cncfanatics | http://digg.com/software/A_system_call_that_should_never_fail_has_failed_pic <3 |
| 17:59.26 | Shirik | heh, I looked it up on msdn |
| 17:59.42 | Shirik | WSASYSCALLFAILURE: A system call that should never fail has failed. This is a generic error code, returned under various conditions. |
| 17:59.46 | Shirik | very helpful |
| 18:00.07 | Shirik | Returned when a provider does not return SUCCESS. |
| 18:00.09 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:03.05 | Jaxon | Is the armory completely messed up? |
| 18:03.57 | pastamancer | Xinhuan: were you able to test if party1vehicle is a valid unit? |
| 18:04.11 | kenlyric | I'm making a note here: A system call that should never fail has failed |
| 18:05.03 | *** join/#wowace Gibbonz (n=irc@router.tgfn.mywits-end.co.uk) |
| 18:05.18 | *** join/#wowace Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 18:06.24 | pomp | does DBM have a version check? |
| 18:07.14 | ulic | don't think DBM developers hang out in here, so you'd have to get lucky and find a user in channel. |
| 18:08.17 | Gibbonz | so umm, sorry about my sudden dc earlier... damn builders :) |
| 18:08.43 | *** join/#wowace [ND] (n=[ND]@h062040167062.gun.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 18:10.33 | Pneumatus | dbm does have a version check, yeh |
| 18:10.42 | *** join/#wowace isman (n=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:11.12 | pomp | dbm4? where is it in the options? |
| 18:11.51 | *** join/#wowace mort (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 18:17.33 | *** join/#wowace wallen (i=wallen@78.134.21.73) |
| 18:17.34 | Pneumatus | /dbm ver |
| 18:17.45 | Pneumatus | no idea if its in the options anywhere these days |
| 18:21.45 | Stanzilla | wtb Funkeh |
| 18:23.02 | Gibbonz | @project questhelper |
| 18:23.03 | Repo | Gibbonz: No project found that matches 'questhelper' |
| 18:23.04 | pomp | pneumatus: thanks, it worked ;) |
| 18:23.19 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-10-51.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 18:27.02 | asmodai | kenlyric: for a second I was parsing that as "I'm making a note here, 'huge succes'." :) |
| 18:31.11 | *** join/#wowace toybreaker (i=42c20c02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-b2f4667d4e740bdd) |
| 18:31.47 | *** join/#wowace yoshimo (n=chatzill@p5B0C39AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:33.20 | *** join/#wowace keias (i=saiek@c-69-245-244-213.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 18:50.34 | *** join/#wowace Adys (n=Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 18:55.16 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:00.10 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.152.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 19:03.15 | *** join/#wowace basslingo (n=MurpdOfM@69.149.82.149) |
| 19:03.45 | basslingo | afternoon everyone |
| 19:03.52 | Repo | 10fortress: 03Borlox 07master * 1.11-beta1-3-gd77b492 Core.lua: [+1 commit] - Added support for .texcoord (yet unspecced), thanks to gagou! |
| 19:04.23 | *** join/#wowace pomp1 (n=Pomp@c-71-58-3-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:05.06 | Arrowmaster | ok who the fuck writes a 77kb 'fix' for a 76kb file! |
| 19:05.16 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 19:06.13 | basslingo | microsoft does ;) |
| 19:06.56 | Arrowmaster | view commit 61 to svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libfubarplugin-3-0/mainline/trunk in a two panel diff viewer....... |
| 19:07.16 | *** join/#wowace pompy_ (n=IceChat7@c-71-58-3-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:08.33 | Pneumatus | "possible fix" |
| 19:08.35 | Pneumatus | :o |
| 19:09.00 | nevcairiel | it looks like he copied whole tablet lib in there or something :P |
| 19:09.14 | Pneumatus | yeh it looks like a lib has been dumped in |
| 19:09.19 | basslingo | thats like saying I fixed windows type rm -fs *.* |
| 19:09.27 | Arrowmaster | no view it in a two panel diff viewer |
| 19:09.33 | Arrowmaster | its just in there twice |
| 19:09.39 | Pneumatus | hahaha, its a 2nd copy of the whole addon |
| 19:09.45 | Pneumatus | its the same thing, twice |
| 19:10.24 | Pneumatus | fixing addons by pasting all their code a 2nd time, not convinced |
| 19:12.38 | Repo | 10libfubarplugin-3-0: 03Arrowmaster * r62 LibFuBarPlugin-3.0.lua: |
| 19:12.39 | Repo | I don't know what the fuck you tried to do but you fucking failed so reverting, send me a proper patch instead of trying to commit it |
| 19:12.40 | ckknight | hey all, you can now specify an external ticket tracker for your projects if you prefer to use something besides curseforge's ticket system (e.g. lighthouseapp, your own jira, something else) |
| 19:13.01 | *** join/#wowace Ackis (n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis) |
| 19:13.17 | ckknight | hey Ackis |
| 19:13.39 | Ackis | sup |
| 19:14.28 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: tekkub will be happy to hear about that i bet |
| 19:14.31 | *** join/#wowace Bibi (n=Bibi@unaffiliated/bibi) |
| 19:14.39 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yea, thought so |
| 19:15.04 | ckknight | Ackis: finished the RBAC thing (though still need to sort out roles) |
| 19:15.13 | Ackis | *nod* saw the post, was playing with it a bit |
| 19:19.04 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack- (n=Godzmack@85-220-10-51.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 19:20.03 | *** join/#wowace toybreaker (i=42c20c02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-647d834504615b42) |
| 19:20.49 | *** join/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC95E03.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 19:21.43 | basslingo | anyone know if its require "bitlib" or require "bit" for windows box's that need bitlib ? |
| 19:22.01 | basslingo | cause i know mac and *nix is require "bit" |
| 19:22.10 | Arrowmaster | i think it depends on which bitlib |
| 19:22.13 | Arrowmaster | theres more than one |
| 19:22.25 | basslingo | for the luaforge one |
| 19:22.54 | basslingo | documentation there is non-existant -.- |
| 19:23.03 | Arrowmaster | not sure, imho you just use use cogwheels lua package |
| 19:23.24 | cog|work | ^ |
| 19:23.29 | basslingo | hehe |
| 19:23.36 | cog|work | http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-wow |
| 19:23.44 | Arrowmaster | its even got the patch for utf8 bom's |
| 19:23.49 | basslingo | that is what im using |
| 19:24.01 | cog|work | then you should have the bit table |
| 19:24.01 | Arrowmaster | if you are using that then it should already have bitlib loaded |
| 19:24.05 | cog|work | in the global env |
| 19:24.07 | basslingo | it didnt at first |
| 19:24.12 | basslingo | i had to rebuild a few times |
| 19:24.14 | basslingo | <-- mac |
| 19:24.17 | Repo | 10clear-font2: 03Ackis * r148 / (3 files in 1 directory): ToC, .pkgmeta update to go with patch |
| 19:24.17 | cog|work | ah |
| 19:24.24 | basslingo | ya |
| 19:24.28 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r473 / (9 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:24.29 | Repo | Added basic modules for The Culling of Stratholme, they still need real content. |
| 19:24.32 | cog|work | should've still worked |
| 19:24.41 | basslingo | let me check what i had to do |
| 19:24.41 | cog|work | did you have to change anything in the makefile? |
| 19:24.49 | cog|work | feel free to submit a patch =) |
| 19:24.53 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: you should bump tocs for abandoned addons |
| 19:24.54 | *** join/#wowace Tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 19:24.54 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 19:24.59 | Repo | 10clear-font2: 03Ackis 04v2.6 * r149 : Tagging as v2.6 |
| 19:25.07 | basslingo | well it wasnt ur issue i think |
| 19:25.11 | basslingo | i have macports installed |
| 19:25.16 | basslingo | and it defaults to that first -.- |
| 19:25.21 | cog|work | ah |
| 19:25.28 | basslingo | and i had lua there from using wireshark |
| 19:25.57 | basslingo | lets just say things got alittle messy gettin lua built with bitlib ;) |
| 19:26.28 | pastamancer | if you care about unitframes supporting vehicles properly - http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=256810#post256810 |
| 19:27.35 | basslingo | but ya, im using ur copy cog ;) |
| 19:27.46 | cog|work | =) |
| 19:28.46 | cog|work | want to maintain mac binaries for me? :> |
| 19:29.39 | basslingo | hehe |
| 19:29.59 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: spellcheck your post |
| 19:30.09 | basslingo | let me do a seperate clean install and try to remember what wasnt workin |
| 19:30.15 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: you typoed an event name |
| 19:30.51 | Fin | ckknight: FYI, the video link from Cargtographer-3.0's description on curse.com goes to a 404 |
| 19:31.10 | cog|work | ChanServ, infobot and I are lonely in #lua-wow if you want to spare this channel from our "spam" <.< |
| 19:31.31 | pastamancer | bah, the fancy edit box on the forums gets rid of firefox's spell checking |
| 19:31.53 | Arrowmaster | pastamancer: yeah i disabled it because of that |
| 19:32.36 | pastamancer | oh, how do I do that? |
| 19:32.43 | Arrowmaster | its in the options somewhere |
| 19:32.50 | basslingo | cog|work: one of this issues (however still works ok) is lua 5.1 and 5.0 are using deprecated NS functions |
| 19:33.17 | cog|work | basslingo: what do you mean? |
| 19:33.21 | basslingo | loadlib.c |
| 19:33.33 | basslingo | arning: âNSCreateObjectFileImageFromFileâ is deprecated (declared at /usr/include/mach-o/dyld.h:145) |
| 19:33.38 | basslingo | Warning* |
| 19:33.42 | basslingo | and alot more others like it |
| 19:33.53 | basslingo | but all in loadlib |
| 19:33.54 | pastamancer | ah, found it |
| 19:34.05 | *** join/#wowace qqw (n=chatzill@209.90.176.123) |
| 19:34.06 | ckknight | Tekkub: ping |
| 19:34.16 | Tekkub | ow |
| 19:34.16 | cog|work | NMP! :P |
| 19:35.35 | Fisker- | rages |
| 19:35.37 | cog|work | That's honestly the kind of thing I've made a point not to "fix." Part of me suspects blizzard gets those warnings when they compile wow for mac ;) |
| 19:35.53 | basslingo | hehe |
| 19:35.56 | basslingo | but ya |
| 19:35.59 | *** part/#wowace pomp1 (n=Pomp@c-71-58-3-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:36.06 | basslingo | ok, i have a bit table |
| 19:36.22 | basslingo | must be because macports was being the default lua ;) |
| 19:36.31 | Fisker- | pastamancer in idiot terms? |
| 19:36.42 | *** join/#wowace pomp1 (n=Pomp@c-71-58-3-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 19:36.42 | basslingo | WHICH was my prob to begin with since i put it at the begining of the .bash_profile path -.- |
| 19:36.55 | pastamancer | Fisker-: gg bliz fix plz |
| 19:37.14 | Arrowmaster | Fisker-: its currently impossible for custom unitframes to act the same way as the default ones |
| 19:37.20 | Fisker- | ah |
| 19:37.24 | Fisker- | fuck you blizzard |
| 19:37.34 | basslingo | ~fail: Blizzard |
| 19:37.41 | Fisker- | So that's why only Blizzard raidframes pick up stuff like malygos drakes? |
| 19:37.43 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 19:37.43 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on Fisker- |
| 19:37.56 | basslingo | stupid colon -.- |
| 19:38.14 | pastamancer | exactly |
| 19:38.50 | Arrowmaster | ~poke Kaelten |
| 19:38.50 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Kaelten, pokes Kaelten repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 19:38.56 | NeoTron | so I wonder - did they just figure it wasn't needed or did they just completely drop the ball? (or run out of time?) |
| 19:40.26 | pastamancer | I'm not sure they even thought about it |
| 19:40.29 | Fisker- | run out of time or batshit insane |
| 19:40.35 | pastamancer | I'm sure Blizzard QA only tests the default UI |
| 19:40.40 | Fisker- | That's basically Blizzard's 2 operating modes |
| 19:40.53 | pentium166 | which one is [flyable]? |
| 19:41.13 | Fisker- | if only i knew :P |
| 19:41.34 | Fisker- | i think they knew though pastamancer :P |
| 19:41.43 | Fisker- | What better way to discourage custom ui's than fucking them up? :DDD |
| 19:41.50 | basslingo | hehe |
| 19:41.53 | *** join/#wowace fleetfoot (n=fleetfoo@c-efe6e455.014-202-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 19:41.54 | pastamancer | dunno, all the secure stuff is written by non-blizzard folk |
| 19:41.59 | Fisker- | Now people are going to look for people who only use standard ui :D |
| 19:42.14 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r474 / (4 files in 3 directories): ruRU update |
| 19:42.17 | Fisker- | Who writes it? :E |
| 19:42.36 | pastamancer | iriel, alestane, cide... mostly iriel I think |
| 19:42.51 | cncfanatics | then we can all blame iriel ? |
| 19:42.57 | Fisker- | nah |
| 19:42.59 | cncfanatics | sounds like a decent idea |
| 19:43.01 | Fisker- | cide has motive |
| 19:43.05 | Fisker- | lets blame both |
| 19:43.09 | robotusch | *gasp* |
| 19:43.27 | pentium166 | they have a non-employee writing parts of the ui? |
| 19:43.50 | pastamancer | more like submitting code that blizzard is allowed to include in the ui |
| 19:43.56 | Fisker- | *shoo* robotusch before i put you on fire |
| 19:44.13 | robotusch | :> |
| 19:44.15 | Fisker- | i'd start my own consultant company pastamancer |
| 19:44.20 | Fisker- | that'd be awesome! |
| 19:44.27 | robotusch | And then pull a Stein Bagger, eh? |
| 19:44.37 | pastamancer | consults with Fisker- on how to be an internets troll. |
| 19:44.43 | robotusch | pft |
| 19:44.48 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r77 Libs/Karma-1.0/KarmaUtility-1.0.lua: -fixing revision issue |
| 19:44.50 | Fisker- | man if only i'd been stein bagger |
| 19:44.52 | robotusch | Fusker- is THE original internets troll |
| 19:44.53 | Fisker- | that'd be fucking awesome |
| 19:45.05 | robotusch | You be fucking wanted, but fucking rich |
| 19:45.05 | Fisker- | of course i wouldn't have been running with the money since i'd be plenty rich already |
| 19:45.24 | Fisker- | hey with those money you can buy sealand :P |
| 19:45.33 | cncfanatics | pentium166: they have people in the addon author community write code only addon authors need and they include it, fair enough ? |
| 19:45.43 | robotusch | http://www.interpol.com/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2008/92/2008_39492.asp |
| 19:47.13 | Fisker- | nice business though |
| 19:47.33 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: may i have a word with you |
| 19:47.42 | Fisker- | o shi- |
| 19:48.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: he went to the bank, he thinks he left his driver's license there |
| 19:48.19 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 19:48.26 | Fisker- | look at me i'm Kaelten, this driver's license proves it! |
| 19:48.27 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 19:48.28 | Fisker- | :D |
| 19:48.59 | *** join/#wowace qqw (n=chatzill@209.90.176.123) |
| 19:49.02 | robotusch | If your driving is anything like the one you do in GTA, god helps us all >_> |
| 19:50.27 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm 04v1.6 * r14 : Tagging as v1.6 |
| 19:56.41 | *** join/#wowace Movix (n=mattes@82.242.144.196) |
| 19:58.13 | *** join/#wowace p4aved (n=dave@123-243-26-39.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 20:04.27 | CIA-50 | wowbench: 03basslingo * r178 10/trunk/BlizzardInterface/FrameXML/Localization.xml: UI tag definition was longer than 1 line, parser didnt like it..... so Rather than fix the parser..... ill fix the ui tag to 1 line ;) yes im that lazy |
| 20:06.27 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r93 InventoryOnPar.lua: InventoryOnPar: - |
| 20:06.28 | Repo | forgot to save data before commit v12.02 does remove debug info |
| 20:06.53 | Grum | what on earth is wowbench? |
| 20:06.55 | Grum | @project wowbench |
| 20:06.56 | Repo | Grum: No project found that matches 'wowbench' |
| 20:07.08 | basslingo | its on sourceforge |
| 20:07.17 | basslingo | its a debugger for addons |
| 20:07.22 | *** join/#wowace hanzzon (n=Miranda@213-66-212-148-no157.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:07.22 | basslingo | outside of wow |
| 20:07.37 | basslingo | think of it as a virtual server to test addons in |
| 20:07.46 | Grum | emulating the wowenv? |
| 20:07.50 | basslingo | yup |
| 20:08.07 | Primer | can it profile cpu usage? |
| 20:08.09 | hanzzon | hi, in Bartender4; how does it work what bars are shown by the "Actionbar Paging" setting? |
| 20:08.17 | basslingo | dunno yet Primer |
| 20:08.19 | basslingo | ask Mikk |
| 20:08.26 | basslingo | hes the origional auther ;) |
| 20:08.31 | basslingo | author* |
| 20:08.33 | Grum | does it bake you pie? |
| 20:08.34 | Primer | Is there anything that can profile addons? |
| 20:08.42 | Mikk | wowbench doesnt profile cpu usage |
| 20:08.46 | Mikk | there's little point in it |
| 20:08.49 | Primer | I've always been curious about the cpu utilization of my addon |
| 20:08.54 | basslingo | Primer |
| 20:08.57 | basslingo | os.clock |
| 20:08.57 | Mikk | since the API implementations use totally random time |
| 20:09.03 | Grum | why is it called 'wowbench' then? :p |
| 20:09.33 | Primer | heh, I don't want to code shit in to profile |
| 20:09.42 | Mikk | it's a workbench |
| 20:09.44 | Mikk | not a benchmarker |
| 20:09.56 | Grum | wowrkbench! |
| 20:10.26 | hanzzon | reg my Bartender4 question, when I hold shift and scroll with the mouse I see 5 action bars paging by, how can I reduce that is my question...? |
| 20:11.11 | Arrowmaster | thats part of the default ui |
| 20:11.38 | hanzzon | oh, I see |
| 20:12.00 | Grum | didnt expect anyone to actually use that >< |
| 20:12.12 | hanzzon | no wonder 1 hour og googling didn't bring up the answer then, the question was just to *** stupid :P |
| 20:12.15 | NeoTron | Mikk: is it entirely non-visual? (text only) |
| 20:12.28 | basslingo | neotron: yes |
| 20:12.45 | basslingo | you can type click mailbox |
| 20:12.53 | basslingo | and it emulates you clicking the mailbox |
| 20:13.06 | basslingo | however you can be eaten by a grue |
| 20:14.03 | hanzzon | ok, question 2; I found a great app that can show how much Graphics Memory is being utialized... would it be possible to code an addon that can show this same thing ingame or is that outside of lua permissible stuff to do? |
| 20:14.07 | Grum | must be broken if it cant make pie :( |
| 20:14.18 | cncfanatics | its outside hanzzon |
| 20:14.22 | cncfanatics | also, there are no stupid questions |
| 20:14.24 | Grum | hanzzon: external information is external :) |
| 20:14.30 | cncfanatics | only stupid people asking questions |
| 20:14.31 | Grum | cncfanatics: there are! |
| 20:14.47 | EvilJohn- | where is mankirk's wife? |
| 20:14.48 | cncfanatics | nah |
| 20:14.56 | basslingo | hanzzon, wont work |
| 20:15.01 | cncfanatics | perfect example of a stupid person asking a question Evil |
| 20:15.06 | EvilJohn- | thanks! |
| 20:15.11 | EvilJohn- | hey, wait |
| 20:15.42 | hanzzon | thanks guys! |
| 20:15.44 | pentium166 | questhelper, where is mankrik's wife? |
| 20:18.35 | *** join/#wowace Cheads (i=chead@0x573bcf8d.henqu2.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 20:18.45 | cncfanatics | ~vista |
| 20:19.27 | cncfanatics | purl, vista is <reply> The typical thing with vista is it tells you that "A system call that should never fail has failed" (see http://digg.com/software/A_system_call_that_should_never_fail_has_failed_pic) |
| 20:19.28 | purl | ACTION installs vista on is <reply> The typical thing with vista is it tells you that "A system call that should never fail has failed" (see http://digg.com/software/A_system_call_that_should_never_fail_has_failed_pic)'s computer and then insists that every program, file and even email have proper DRM, immediately permanently locking the computer the first time non-DRM spam arrives |
| 20:19.39 | cncfanatics | ~vista |
| 20:19.45 | cncfanatics | mmm, that didn't work |
| 20:20.01 | Arrowmaster | ~vista cncfanatics |
| 20:20.02 | purl | ACTION installs vista on cncfanatics's computer and then insists that every program, file and even email have proper DRM, immediately permanently locking the computer the first time non-DRM spam arrives |
| 20:20.49 | basslingo | hehe |
| 20:20.52 | cncfanatics | meh, ~vista alone should work too |
| 20:20.58 | cncfanatics | and give what I said |
| 20:21.03 | basslingo | ~apple basslingo |
| 20:21.15 | basslingo | and....... no apple /tear |
| 20:21.25 | cncfanatics | ~microsof |
| 20:21.27 | Arrowmaster | ~factinfo vista |
| 20:21.27 | purl | there's no such factoid as vista, Arrowmaster |
| 20:21.30 | CIA-50 | wowbench: 03basslingo * r179 10/trunk/ (utils.lua wowbench.lua): |
| 20:21.30 | CIA-50 | wowbench: utils.xml (two local functs changed to global for file access) |
| 20:21.30 | CIA-50 | wowbench: wowbench.lua loadlib for bitlib changed to a pcall(require(bit)) |
| 20:21.37 | Arrowmaster | seems hardcoded |
| 20:21.42 | Arrowmaster | so you cant change it |
| 20:22.04 | cncfanatics | I doubt it is tbh |
| 20:23.48 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt show up with factinfo |
| 20:23.52 | Arrowmaster | so i think it is |
| 20:24.47 | cncfanatics | vista <name> is a factoid |
| 20:24.54 | cncfanatics | not vista alone |
| 20:25.52 | hanzzon | so, what's this about broker, if I originally switched from Tital Panel like 2 years ago to FuBar because it was better written I should change to Broker because it's better written than the both of them, correct? |
| 20:26.44 | Zhinjio | hanzzon: Its not so much an issue of "better written", although it arguably is... its more an issue of *choice* |
| 20:27.08 | Zhinjio | using LDB/Broker... you get to pick the display addon you want, and the LDB data source addon needn't be changed |
| 20:27.34 | Zhinjio | so you no longer need a Titan_XP and FuBar_XPFu... you just need Broker_XP |
| 20:27.40 | Zhinjio | and it will work with whatever display addon you want |
| 20:27.48 | Zhinjio | (ButtonBin, Titan, Fortress, etc) |
| 20:28.18 | kenlyric | that was also true of those other two |
| 20:28.32 | kenlyric | but just nobody ever wrote another display addon |
| 20:29.03 | Arrowmaster | it would have been extremely difficult to do |
| 20:29.14 | Cheads | broker_anything just seems a lot more minimalistic and a lot of feature rich |
| 20:29.39 | Cheads | eh a lot less feature rich |
| 20:30.06 | hanzzon | ok, thnx |
| 20:30.24 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth______ (n=chatzill@118-169-192-95.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 20:30.30 | Cheads | atleast that's the impression I got when I tried to move to broker 1 month ago |
| 20:30.41 | cncfanatics | what was the place u cld hit a banished mob for easy weapon skill again ? |
| 20:30.48 | Zhinjio | well, that improves as more skilled programmers write broker addons |
| 20:30.53 | Cheads | no more cnc |
| 20:31.10 | cncfanatics | Cheads: how so ? there hasn't been any patch |
| 20:31.16 | Cheads | server side fix |
| 20:31.25 | cncfanatics | aww :( |
| 20:31.26 | Cheads | at last maintenance |
| 20:31.54 | cncfanatics | low |
| 20:32.07 | Cheads | Zhinjio yeah, I'm still a bitch for FuBar_PerformanceFu :) |
| 20:32.50 | NeoTron | seems like a nerf to Icebound Fortitude cooldown is coming |
| 20:33.20 | hanzzon | yea, FuBar_PerformanceFu is nice |
| 20:33.43 | robotusch | NeoTron, how so? |
| 20:33.55 | NeoTron | "We don't want Icebound Fortitude to be a button you use whenever it is up. It is designed to be used when burst damage is coming (in PvE or PvP) but the way it was getting used, because of the short cooldown, was to be on an awful lot of the time. That's not really an ability in that case, it's just giving the DKs 50% damage reduction." |
| 20:33.55 | Zhinjio | I agree... its one that I haven't replaced yet, but in all honestly, I also haven't gone looking for a replacement yet |
| 20:34.30 | *** join/#wowace Thelyna (n=burp@122-57-255-142.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 20:35.20 | Thrae | NeoTron: 50% damage reduction on a short cooldown wasn't *intended* to be used as often as possible? Well of course it would be! |
| 20:36.19 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 20:36.30 | NeoTron | although I tend to actually save it for when it's needed, not use it every minute |
| 20:36.50 | NeoTron | but the short cooldown means I actually use it vs think "oh can't use it now, must save" |
| 20:37.04 | NeoTron | I much prefer an ability I am not afraid to use thinking I might need it later |
| 20:38.07 | cncfanatics | what is its uptime again ? |
| 20:38.50 | robotusch | 12 secs |
| 20:39.20 | robotusch | 18 with talents I believe |
| 20:39.47 | *** join/#wowace wowheadlookup (n=wowheadl@69.149.82.149) |
| 20:40.38 | Thrae | NeoTron: It's basically an improved Barkskin-like ability, which Druids use all the time even in minor situations since it can be used in forms now, and costs no mana. 20% Damage Reduction for 12 seconds, 1 minute. However Barkskin can't be improved in any way, while Icebound Fortitude not only has associated talents, but also a glyph to buff it even more. |
| 20:41.03 | NeoTron | glyph just removes the cost |
| 20:41.30 | NeoTron | mind you I'll prefer more passive damage reduction over oh shit abilities |
| 20:41.38 | Thrae | With the glyph to make it cost no runic power and 18 seconds talented, you can basically have a 3.4% damage reduction all the time by spamming it without serious penalty. |
| 20:42.07 | Thrae | s/all the time/over the course of 60 seconds if damage level is random |
| 20:42.18 | SunTsu | Thrae: And t7 bonus, IIRC |
| 20:42.31 | Thrae | SunTsu: What's that? |
| 20:43.06 | SunTsu | Thrae: mom |
| 20:43.35 | NeoTron | 4 pieces: Increases the duration of your Icebound Fortitude by 3 seconds. |
| 20:43.48 | Thrae | Yeah, just saw that. |
| 20:44.04 | Cheads | Zhinjio I wasn't able to find one with all the features |
| 20:44.05 | NeoTron | but is there really a talent for it? |
| 20:44.24 | NeoTron | if so what is it called? :P |
| 20:44.48 | Zhinjio | maybe that'll be my next one to write then. |
| 20:44.57 | Zhinjio | Its more complex by far than stuff I've done so far. |
| 20:45.16 | Zhinjio | I'll take a look at performancefu's code and see if I grok it well enough to make an attempt |
| 20:46.30 | Cheads | nice |
| 20:46.42 | Cheads | too complex for me I'm afraid |
| 20:47.51 | Thrae | I just checked and Death Knights don't have any talents which buff Icebound Fortitude. It's just the set bonus which buffs the duration. |
| 20:49.49 | cncfanatics | do people playing on MAC have fancy shadows ? |
| 20:50.23 | Hirsute | I would expect so, though I don't play on a Mac. |
| 20:50.52 | cncfanatics | linux doesn't due to it not being suppported in opengl mode according to some people |
| 20:50.56 | cncfanatics | which sounds a bit weird to me :p |
| 20:51.19 | Hirsute | Interesting. |
| 20:53.02 | basslingo | im on a mac |
| 20:53.11 | basslingo | and ya we get the cool shadows |
| 20:53.43 | cncfanatics | so it isn't opengl |
| 20:53.45 | cncfanatics | wine bullshitters |
| 20:53.49 | basslingo | idea though, would it be possible to do a graphics change based on your current location? |
| 20:53.55 | NeoTron | you need mac os X 10.5.5 for shadows |
| 20:54.05 | NeoTron | no clue what changed in .5 vs .4 and earlies |
| 20:54.07 | basslingo | <-- 10.5.5 =D |
| 20:54.17 | basslingo | i can check |
| 20:54.21 | cncfanatics | basslingo: it would, the graphics api is not protected |
| 20:54.22 | cncfanatics | please do |
| 20:54.38 | NeoTron | there's an addon that I had one that did that |
| 20:54.44 | NeoTron | not recalling the name now |
| 20:54.58 | basslingo | neoTron: if ya remember let me know ;) need to turn crap off for dalaran |
| 20:56.09 | basslingo | here is the 10.5.5 release notes for mac http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2405 |
| 20:56.43 | basslingo | # Includes extensive graphics enhancements. -.- well thats helpful |
| 20:56.49 | cncfanatics | lol |
| 20:57.03 | cncfanatics | fuck you apple, you're as descriptive as microsoft :p |
| 20:57.06 | basslingo | hehe |
| 20:57.12 | basslingo | ill check the developer release notes |
| 20:57.25 | basslingo | when having a developer account helps ;) |
| 21:00.05 | many | i could boot my wine to check that assumption. |
| 21:00.23 | many | but actually i'd rather believe it depends on hardware, driver and some other stuff |
| 21:00.26 | renchap | dont have fancy shadows with latest wine |
| 21:00.51 | gix | does anyone know how the Summon Totem spelleffect works? i the number there some internal table? |
| 21:01.02 | renchap | can somebody try with windows and opengl ? :) |
| 21:02.35 | *** join/#wowace syeren (i=syeren@cpc3-oldh5-0-0-cust762.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:02.43 | hanzzon | basslingo: this addon will reduce (or increase) graphical detail according to your fps... http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dynamic-performance.aspx |
| 21:03.42 | basslingo | thanks |
| 21:06.03 | hanzzon | hope it helps, there is a comment a bit down with a fix for 3.0... |
| 21:07.13 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r68 Locales/Locale-deDE.lua: |
| 21:07.14 | Repo | German deDE is no longer indicated as the default locale. This was causing a conflict with enUS and deDE both attempting to register as the default locale. |
| 21:09.07 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:09.28 | ckknight | you can now specify donation info for your project |
| 21:09.31 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r78 Libs/Karma-1.0 (2 files in 1 directory): -fixing revision issue |
| 21:09.33 | ckknight | currently we support only paypal |
| 21:09.36 | ckknight | but it's a start |
| 21:11.08 | ckknight | Tekkub: ping |
| 21:11.13 | Tekkub | ow |
| 21:11.20 | Zhinjio | Tekkub! |
| 21:11.24 | Tekkub | wut |
| 21:12.13 | ckknight | Tekkub: you use pledgie for your donation stuff |
| 21:12.19 | basslingo | oh, who was askin about the graphics stuff? |
| 21:12.23 | ckknight | what info do I need to have to reproduce your button? |
| 21:12.58 | basslingo | cause it is OpenGL |
| 21:13.02 | Tekkub | it's just a normal image an d link |
| 21:13.14 | Tekkub | I think the only thing that changes is the id |
| 21:13.26 | Tekkub | they give you the code when you make the campaign |
| 21:13.35 | ckknight | okay |
| 21:13.37 | ckknight | alright then |
| 21:14.08 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: make sure only the main role can modifiy donation info |
| 21:14.38 | ckknight | yea, I plan to |
| 21:14.40 | ckknight | only manager |
| 21:15.54 | *** join/#wowace Kilroo (n=Kilroo@cpe-098-026-168-017.triad.res.rr.com) |
| 21:22.03 | hanzzon | just tested OpenGL in Windows, nVidia 180.48 drivers on 8800GTS512mb, no detailed shdows, acutally the shadow detail got set to low and was not possible to increase to high! |
| 21:24.33 | ckknight | Tekkub: k, I abused your project a bit and added your pledgie dealy to http://www.wowace.com/projects/tourguide/ |
| 21:25.15 | Tekkub | using the existing one I assume? |
| 21:25.18 | Tekkub | yea |
| 21:25.26 | basslingo | hanzzon, its OpenGL for mac |
| 21:25.32 | basslingo | if ya where wondering |
| 21:25.33 | ckknight | Tekkub: yea, same one |
| 21:25.39 | ckknight | Tekkub: mostly just wanted to test a live case |
| 21:25.43 | ckknight | feel free to do what you want now |
| 21:25.50 | ckknight | currently, the donation stuff won't sync to curse.com |
| 21:25.50 | Tekkub | huzzah now I get to re-re-write my build script to set that |
| 21:25.53 | ckknight | but it may at a future date |
| 21:26.01 | Tekkub | fuck curse.com |
| 21:26.01 | basslingo | oh Tekkub want help with the horde guides? |
| 21:26.21 | Tekkub | basslingo, if you can playtest them, yes |
| 21:26.26 | basslingo | cool |
| 21:26.32 | Tekkub | I've not touched em cause I can't test em yet |
| 21:26.32 | basslingo | i only play horde ;) |
| 21:26.40 | Tekkub | I'd *rather* be horde |
| 21:26.43 | basslingo | hehe |
| 21:26.47 | Industrial | I made an actionbar addon |
| 21:26.49 | Kilroo | Hmm. |
| 21:26.50 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1a5243bad0837561adcf2f8ca1b2a38a.jpg |
| 21:26.56 | Industrial | ... |
| 21:27.04 | Industrial | in 66 lines of code http://pastey.net/103742 |
| 21:27.05 | Industrial | xD |
| 21:27.06 | Kaelten | lol |
| 21:27.15 | pastamancer | but does it work with vehicles? |
| 21:27.21 | Industrial | going to test it now |
| 21:27.23 | Kilroo | nice |
| 21:27.31 | basslingo | Tekkub, is there any data for it on the googlecode svn? |
| 21:27.32 | Kilroo | looks vaguely like what I used to do with Visor |
| 21:27.40 | Kilroo | only without Visor |
| 21:27.51 | Tekkub | I've not used svn for over a year now... |
| 21:28.08 | basslingo | thats right |
| 21:28.11 | basslingo | you switched to git |
| 21:28.18 | Industrial | hm whats a flying daily again.. ah right howling fjords |
| 21:28.19 | Kilroo | ...I think if you added a config menu to that you'd essentially have remade Barkeep. |
| 21:28.20 | ckknight | down with svn |
| 21:28.35 | Kilroo | I'll go along with that |
| 21:28.47 | Kilroo | although personally my top pick is currently bzr. |
| 21:29.27 | Tekkub | http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/ |
| 21:29.29 | Tekkub | :P |
| 21:29.30 | CIA-50 | wowbench: 03basslingo * r180 10/trunk/api.lua: More functions fleshed out..... added a few movierecording duds |
| 21:29.31 | Kilroo | On the other hand, my original reason for that is now defunct, so at this point that's solely because it's the only other thing I've learned anything about yet. |
| 21:31.24 | Industrial | pastamancer: still on flight to howling fjords :P |
| 21:31.38 | Industrial | tbh i hate the flying thing :( just lemme use the petbar |
| 21:31.41 | Industrial | oh i forgot the petbar |
| 21:31.42 | Industrial | lol |
| 21:32.12 | pastamancer | stance bar too? |
| 21:32.18 | basslingo | I <3 macports |
| 21:32.20 | *** join/#wowace mjc (n=mjc@c-69-180-107-29.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 21:32.24 | basslingo | sudo port install git-core |
| 21:32.26 | basslingo | =D |
| 21:32.56 | ckknight | are there any other donation systems I need to support? I support pledgie and paypal now |
| 21:33.19 | mjc | yes |
| 21:33.41 | pastamancer | ask the euros... I think germans have some sort of easy bank transfer thing |
| 21:33.51 | Kilroo | Actually, given my latest epiphany about the ability to use other alternatives the way I was going to use bzr...I may want to take a look at Mercurial again, in particular, just because from what I can recall it's the DVCS with the most complete integration with Eclipse. |
| 21:34.16 | basslingo | Eclipse ftw |
| 21:34.22 | Kilroo | eh |
| 21:34.30 | Kilroo | depends on how you like to work |
| 21:34.33 | Kilroo | but for me, yes. |
| 21:34.47 | ckknight | Kilroo: we use mercurial here |
| 21:35.00 | basslingo | <-- java / PHP ide |
| 21:35.15 | Kilroo | basslingo, you use PDT or Aptana for PHP? |
| 21:35.19 | Kilroo | ...Or neither. |
| 21:35.20 | basslingo | lua i still do in Smultron (mac equilvolent of notepad) |
| 21:35.38 | Kilroo | I've only just started doing lua, but I'm trying to use LuaEclipse. |
| 21:35.45 | basslingo | ewe |
| 21:35.49 | basslingo | eww* |
| 21:36.09 | basslingo | Kilroo, neither |
| 21:36.12 | ckknight | basslingo: I use TextMate |
| 21:36.16 | Hirsute | <--Uses vim |
| 21:36.17 | basslingo | all stuff i do in php is without libraries |
| 21:36.18 | Industrial | vim |
| 21:36.32 | basslingo | well |
| 21:36.34 | basslingo | save for smarty |
| 21:36.48 | Kilroo | Oh. So...you just use it as a text editor for php? |
| 21:39.11 | Industrial | so heres flyingbar thingy pastamancer http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2099d11e89b14be593419021f4caac52.jpg |
| 21:39.15 | Industrial | and |
| 21:39.43 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/69766b827d6b5e1077f06ada5770539e.jpg |
| 21:39.56 | Industrial | ... blizzard why do you have to do it messed up every time :( |
| 21:40.05 | pastamancer | lol, what happened in the second ss? |
| 21:40.10 | Industrial | i landed. |
| 21:40.20 | Industrial | (and got out) |
| 21:40.33 | pomp1 | hanzzon: same issue I have , if I set it to anything other than low, my fps gets eaten |
| 21:40.37 | pastamancer | oh, I see the artwork is screwed up in the previous one too |
| 21:40.41 | Industrial | yea |
| 21:41.12 | Industrial | im actually not sure whats doing that, but not this addon.. illg et into it. |
| 21:41.28 | ckknight | new poll on wowace |
| 21:42.17 | Industrial | sweater imo |
| 21:42.26 | pastamancer | ckknight: I have an unopened collectors edition of hellgate... I'm not sure if that's better or worse than daikatana though |
| 21:42.37 | Industrial | daikatana :O |
| 21:44.48 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7120192441&sid=1 <-WAT? |
| 21:45.39 | Fisker- | thank god my reputation haven't been reset |
| 21:46.03 | Industrial | y im almost exalted with my first |
| 21:46.42 | Fisker- | i am exalted :E |
| 21:46.53 | Fisker- | i would've blown the world up |
| 21:46.56 | Kilroo | hmm |
| 21:47.06 | *** join/#wowace Funkeh` (n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh) |
| 21:47.06 | *** mode/#wowace [+o Funkeh`] by ChanServ |
| 21:47.42 | Kilroo | Tekkub: I have a very strong suspicion that Bazaar's BzrVsGit page is severely outdated. |
| 21:48.39 | Funkeh` | heys |
| 21:51.40 | hanzzon | pomp1: I don't play in OpenGL tho, was just for the requested test ;-) |
| 21:52.21 | Industrial | wtf is this :| my TargetFrame is placed somewhere other then default, and i only have my bar addon loaded |
| 21:52.43 | Industrial | and it doesnt even touch TargetFrame |
| 21:52.45 | Industrial | only actionbuttons |
| 21:52.46 | Industrial | :s |
| 21:54.05 | Fisker- | pastamancer don't be sad |
| 21:54.15 | Fisker- | I GOT A LIFETIME SUB! |
| 21:54.16 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 21:54.28 | Fisker- | "This is the shit" i said |
| 21:54.34 | Fisker- | "This will blow D2 out of the water" i said |
| 21:54.44 | Fisker- | "Fuck you Bill Roper you scammed us all" i said |
| 21:58.43 | pastamancer | I think that's the first time Fisker- has actually made me feel better |
| 22:02.30 | Kilroo | I need to decide what I want to use to replace AuldLangSyne. |
| 22:02.34 | *** join/#wowace doom0r (i=Doom0r@c-24-1-208-53.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 22:03.17 | Kilroo | There are plenty of broker addons that should work for replacing the fubar bit...may end up with NotesUNeed for the rest. |
| 22:03.49 | Industrial | pastamancer: something else is doing the unitframe things. the only addon laoded atm is the actionbar addon. |
| 22:04.02 | Industrial | I think I'm going to fix it to work with the flight thingy. |
| 22:04.17 | Primer | flight thingy? |
| 22:04.31 | Industrial | use of airplanes/tanks |
| 22:04.55 | pastamancer | vehicle ui |
| 22:05.04 | Kilroo | I might want to fork that actionbar addon, Industrial. |
| 22:05.54 | Primer | pastamancer: been having a hell of a time with my addon since implementing ellipse display. I decided that I was doing too much math in the OnUpdate and decided to trim some stuff down, and ultimately broke it |
| 22:06.24 | Primer | I found an instance where I was getting radians from Astrolabe, converting to degrees, then back to radians |
| 22:06.46 | Primer | it's odd that the standard for radians is that 0 points east (90°) |
| 22:07.04 | Primer | but astrolabe a GetFacing return radians with 0 at north (0°) |
| 22:07.06 | pastamancer | not that odd given the unit-circle |
| 22:07.09 | pastamancer | oh |
| 22:07.16 | Primer | s/ a / and / |
| 22:07.19 | pastamancer | that's only slightly odd |
| 22:07.38 | Primer | anyhow, I have the code in place doing the ellipse just peachy |
| 22:07.50 | Primer | but now my bearing calculation is off, and I haven't had time to look over it |
| 22:08.24 | Primer | it's been an experience in trial and error and /rl |
| 22:08.45 | Primer | I really should make this part a function I can just /run at runtime |
| 22:09.07 | Primer | you can do that, right? Replace an object method at runtime in that manner? |
| 22:09.25 | pastamancer | of course |
| 22:09.32 | Primer | /run function Obj:Methodname() bla bla bla end |
| 22:09.34 | Primer | ? |
| 22:09.38 | doom0r | in the past few days, there has been a ton of sound replacement mods springing up |
| 22:09.58 | pastamancer | should work, or just use a coding notepad like luaslinger or hack |
| 22:10.12 | Primer | ohhh |
| 22:10.12 | pastamancer | then you can run an entire textbox |
| 22:13.11 | Primer | hrmm, no hack on curse |
| 22:13.38 | Groktar | gently pats Primer |
| 22:14.38 | Primer | purrs |
| 22:14.40 | Industrial | pastamancer: if I use just 3 bars then it works. I feel somewhat defeated though because I cant get it to work with the MultiBarBottomLeft/Right. |
| 22:15.00 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.02 * bf317fd /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
| 22:15.01 | Industrial | er, MultiBarLeft/Right |
| 22:15.01 | Repo | - Changed some locale code. |
| 22:15.08 | pastamancer | Primer: try wowi |
| 22:15.13 | Primer | yeah, I got it from there |
| 22:15.29 | Primer | was just hoping to get it via curse client, since it's easier to maintain that way |
| 22:16.11 | doom0r | Primer: it's not one of those things that really gets updates |
| 22:16.40 | *** join/#wowace stew_a (n=Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753) |
| 22:17.10 | doom0r | also, Primer, For all indents and purposes, if you want coloring/indenting |
| 22:17.22 | Industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/10b88d0ef436979af0e43ce48499a01e.jpg |
| 22:17.24 | Primer | yeah, I just read that |
| 22:17.27 | Industrial | so it works like that (with vehiclebar) |
| 22:17.42 | Industrial | wonder if I should even upload this as an addon lol :p |
| 22:21.10 | Groktar | frick, university lost my AP scores |
| 22:21.11 | Groktar | :( |
| 22:21.26 | doom0r | small things get lost easy |
| 22:21.27 | Industrial | :O |
| 22:21.33 | doom0r | :P |
| 22:21.39 | Groktar | well, i kinda dropped out for two years |
| 22:21.45 | doom0r | =\ |
| 22:21.48 | Industrial | yeah... |
| 22:21.49 | Groktar | so i'm trying to get scores from spring 2001 |
| 22:21.50 | Groktar | oO |
| 22:22.12 | Groktar | blames Industrial |
| 22:22.37 | *** join/#wowace erikh (n=nerikh@hollensbe.org) |
| 22:23.52 | Groktar | i wish i'd dropped out 3 1/2 years ago |
| 22:24.06 | Groktar | before i basically didn't go to class for 3 straight semsters |
| 22:24.12 | Groktar | *semesters |
| 22:24.32 | Groktar | blames Industrial |
| 22:25.47 | Groktar | puts on his tinfoil hat |
| 22:27.28 | pastamancer | Zeksie, Arrowmaster, Xinhuan, Pneumatus: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=256828#post256828 |
| 22:28.58 | *** part/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC95E03.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 22:29.20 | Groktar | puts a tinfoil hat on pastamancer |
| 22:30.41 | *** join/#wowace DarkAudit (n=Brian@pool-72-84-50-130.clrkwv.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:30.52 | Industrial | whats the name of an addon that does moving all tooltips to the mouse location? |
| 22:31.22 | hanzzon | TinyTip can do that I think |
| 22:32.16 | Cheads | startip can do that too |
| 22:33.44 | gix | great. first time in wintergrasp and two times sound bugs |
| 22:35.45 | Kilroo | thanks for reminding me, Industrial |
| 22:36.30 | Kilroo | I gotta either figure out how to make Cowtip move the actionbar tooltips, or switch to something else again |
| 22:38.00 | Groktar | si |
| 22:38.02 | Groktar | *so |
| 22:38.16 | Groktar | i'm looking at my unofficial transcript |
| 22:38.30 | Groktar | and my ap scores are there, right at the top |
| 22:40.37 | Groktar | and it says right here that a 3, 4, or 5 counts as math 75 |
| 22:40.39 | Groktar | :/ |
| 22:40.57 | Groktar | hmm, 3 asterisks there |
| 22:41.13 | doom0r | Kilroo: move the anchor |
| 22:41.37 | Kilroo | sorrt |
| 22:41.39 | Kilroo | sorry |
| 22:41.53 | Kilroo | I meant to say, figure out how to do that with RantTooltip |
| 22:41.59 | Kilroo | or switch back to CowTip. |
| 22:42.05 | doom0r | lol |
| 22:42.15 | Groktar | blames doom0r |
| 22:42.20 | doom0r | that i can't help with, i've never got around to actually trying rant |
| 22:43.50 | Kilroo | on the other hand, maybe I should just try xToolTip. |
| 22:44.23 | Kilroo | wait...no, that probably won't give me what I want. |
| 22:44.26 | ckknight | hey all |
| 22:44.49 | ckknight | all managers are also authors now, and new projects will have the person who created it the project's manager as well as an author |
| 22:45.00 | ckknight | note though, that managers don't have to be authors. |
| 22:45.47 | doom0r | so i can design a concept and finally just get evil henchman to do it? |
| 22:46.07 | doom0r | eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeexcellent |
| 22:46.35 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:46.41 | ckknight | we'd need to define a henchman role, though |
| 22:48.09 | Torhal | ckknight: Codebitches |
| 22:48.13 | Torhal | Henchmen is dated. |
| 22:48.39 | ckknight | I did it for the lulz |
| 22:49.56 | Torhal | Haha |
| 22:49.59 | ckknight | @project curseforge |
| 22:50.00 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. ckknight (Author), Kaelten (Author/Manager). Updated: 234 days ago. Tickets: 324/959 |
| 22:52.18 | Fisker- | i need to rage |
| 22:52.52 | Fisker- | i'm sick of god awful escort quests |
| 22:52.52 | Kaelten | ~rage Fisker- |
| 22:53.13 | Fisker- | which ends up in a stupid sequence where i either got to kill them, chase them, damage them, stop them |
| 22:53.27 | Fisker- | And when the fucking npc say "Lets ice those bastards" i don't think i'm supposed to get them fucking ice cream |
| 22:53.39 | Fisker- | so don't fail the mission when i fucking kill them :E |
| 22:54.05 | pastamancer | don't forget having to wake up the dude you're escorting |
| 22:54.16 | Fisker- | :E? |
| 22:54.17 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216) |
| 22:54.23 | Fisker- | Also another fun thing |
| 22:54.27 | ckknight | @project curseforge |
| 22:54.32 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author). Updated: 234 days ago. Tickets: 324/959 |
| 22:54.36 | Fisker- | You have to find cars around town and deliver them to a NPC |
| 22:54.43 | pastamancer | there's a couple of escort quests where the dude falls asleep and you have to hunt through your bags to find the item to wake him up |
| 22:54.47 | Fisker- | Some of the missions involve cars already driving around |
| 22:54.55 | pastamancer | oh, you're talking about GTA |
| 22:54.56 | Fisker- | pastamancer talking GTA4 |
| 22:54.57 | Fisker- | :D |
| 22:55.00 | Torhal | pastamancer: Un'Goro |
| 22:55.02 | pastamancer | I thought you wre bitching about escort quests in wow |
| 22:55.08 | Fisker- | Blizzard doesn't make vague shit :D |
| 22:55.12 | Zyndrome | http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Europe-America/Scandinavia-denounces-WotLK |
| 22:55.13 | pastamancer | haha |
| 22:55.14 | Zyndrome | wat |
| 22:55.16 | Fisker- | atleast not as vague as GTA |
| 22:55.46 | Fisker- | Basically the NPC told me to "Ice those bastards", the objective told me to "Get back their offering(i.e. money?)" and when i killed the driver the mission failed |
| 22:55.47 | Fisker- | gg |
| 22:56.08 | Fisker- | Those get a car quests are somewhat funny though, the vehicles can blow up and shit even though you're not there |
| 22:56.12 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.03 * ad2548a /: [new tag, +1 commits] |
| 22:56.13 | Repo | - Fixed locale problem (for real this time!) |
| 22:56.53 | Fisker- | Had to get a car on the other side of a park, and on my way there i was told that "mission failed", when i got to where the dot was on the map i saw 3 exploded cars :D |
| 22:57.17 | Gngsk | This violation of our history and culture shown by Blizzard makes us want to rape and pillage like our Viking forefathers did a millennia ago! |
| 22:57.26 | Gngsk | awesome quote, awesome. |
| 22:58.14 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=Tuller@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 22:58.33 | Kilroo | pastamancer, re: hunting through bags...autobar. |
| 22:58.52 | pastamancer | Kilroo: I actually use the quest bag of baggins, but still |
| 22:59.17 | Gngsk | oPie is nice, has a quest ring |
| 22:59.25 | Gngsk | hit keybind, move mouse, releae keybind |
| 23:02.19 | Tuller | one day, I should complete davey crocket's rocket pockets |
| 23:02.35 | Tuller | and/or tourguide's quest button is good times |
| 23:03.13 | pastamancer | ... rocket pockets? |
| 23:03.23 | Primer | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetShapeshiftFormInfo returns nothing indicative of 'flight form'. Is that 'travel form'? |
| 23:03.50 | Fisker- | kisses Tuller |
| 23:04.35 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r79 / (3 files in 1 directory): -test for db issue Players |
| 23:04.49 | Tuller | getshapeshiftforminfo isn't constant |
| 23:05.05 | Tuller | for example, a person could decide, "hey, i'm not going to learn aquatic form" |
| 23:05.14 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.1.17 * r80 : -test for db issue PlayersTagging as 2.1.17 |
| 23:05.23 | Primer | in which case, the index would be off? |
| 23:05.33 | Tuller | yep |
| 23:05.36 | Primer | wow |
| 23:05.44 | Primer | I wonder who codes this shit |
| 23:06.13 | Primer | one return value is the icon |
| 23:06.19 | doom0r | Primer: use 7? |
| 23:06.23 | Tuller | what exactly are you trying to accomplish? |
| 23:06.25 | Primer | perhaps that will be consistent? |
| 23:06.37 | Primer | Tuller: determine if a druid has shifted into flight form |
| 23:06.55 | Tuller | check their buffs :P |
| 23:06.57 | Primer | doom0r: I see no 7 in that page. Perhaps you're looking at a different document for the API call? |
| 23:07.14 | doom0r | Primer: doesn't matter, that shapeshift crap shows returns for my pally auras |
| 23:07.28 | pastamancer | IsFlying() and not IsMounted()? |
| 23:07.39 | doom0r | it seems it's all been changed to look at stance bar regardless of what that bar does |
| 23:07.39 | Primer | no |
| 23:07.54 | Primer | I don't want to rely on IsFlying() any more, since it's only true if you're actually flying |
| 23:08.01 | pastamancer | ah |
| 23:08.04 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 23:08.05 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give AKX a big kiss on the forehead |
| 23:08.13 | pastamancer | yeah, I think you'll be scanning buffs then |
| 23:08.19 | Tuller | or simply |
| 23:08.25 | doom0r | icon, name, active, castable = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(1);print(name) |
| 23:08.29 | Tuller | UnitBuff('Flight Form') |
| 23:08.30 | doom0r | returns devotion aura Primer |
| 23:08.43 | doom0r | ignore the limited list on those pages |
| 23:08.57 | Tuller | if you need to localize it, then get the name via spellid |
| 23:09.14 | doom0r | Primer: biggest problem is if no moonkin/tree you the index goes from 7 to 6 |
| 23:09.18 | Primer | I've found that iterating over buffs on the UNIT_AURA event is not atomic |
| 23:09.35 | Primer | meaning, it's there some times when the event that triggered the buff is there, and not other times |
| 23:10.18 | Primer | meaning, I'd have to do the "check buffs one event AFTER the event you want" dance |
| 23:10.50 | Tuller | well, you don't need to iterate over all of them :P |
| 23:11.00 | *** join/#wowace Inc`` (n=incendiu@pool-72-64-99-237.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:11.08 | Primer | I was doing this at one point |
| 23:11.13 | *** join/#wowace toybreaker (i=42c20c02@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-28596cb7c946b15c) |
| 23:11.16 | pastamancer | you could use an onupdate to scan, but only enable it after a unit_aura if you're really not seeing the buffs in the handler for UNIT_AURA |
| 23:11.16 | Primer | in a UNIT_AURA handler |
| 23:11.32 | Primer | pastamancer: that's exactly what I was hoping to avoid |
| 23:11.53 | Fisker- | aaah |
| 23:11.56 | Fisker- | inctrojans fail again |
| 23:11.56 | Tuller | I do find that surprising, at least |
| 23:12.00 | Primer | right now I'm detecting mounting via COMPANION_UPDATED and UNIT_ENTERED_VEHICLE |
| 23:12.03 | doom0r | use GetShapeshiftFormInfo |
| 23:12.07 | Fisker- | OMG SC2 RELEASE DATE 1ST QUARTER 2009! |
| 23:12.08 | doom0r | check both index 6 and 7 |
| 23:12.14 | Fisker- | (From some retailer in SINGAPORE) |
| 23:12.15 | Fisker- | get srs |
| 23:12.18 | Primer | which both call the same handler, which iterates over GetCompanionInfo() |
| 23:14.43 | Primer | so far only tested with flying carpets |
| 23:14.48 | Primer | not sure any other mounts are vehicles |
| 23:16.13 | Tuller | hrm, things to figure out: svn for osx :P |
| 23:16.18 | Arrowmaster | the hogs are and the big mammoth |
| 23:16.26 | pastamancer | Tuller: smartsvn if you want a gui |
| 23:17.11 | doom0r | Primer: icon, name = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(6);print(name) returns Swift Flight Form for a druid that has Moonkin |
| 23:17.40 | doom0r | i'm guessing 5 returns either tree or moonkin and if neither probably flight |
| 23:18.39 | Primer | guess I could match on the name, but I'm guessing that'd always be localized |
| 23:19.23 | doom0r | Primer: ask someone with a different locale to confirm |
| 23:20.01 | pastamancer | use GetSpellInfo to do the localization for you :) |
| 23:20.09 | doom0r | ^ |
| 23:20.10 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r709 Data/Mage.lua: DrDamage: |
| 23:20.11 | Repo | - More fixes for Frostfire Bolt (removed secondary effect, hopefully fixed the crit calculation issue and the hit bonus from Elemental Precision) |
| 23:21.47 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=Tuller@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 23:23.36 | Primer | how likely is it GetSpellInfo also returns localized values? :) |
| 23:23.39 | Tuller | yeah use gespellinfo in combination with a spellid for flight form |
| 23:23.43 | Tuller | it does :P |
| 23:24.03 | Arrowmaster | if you dont know ALWAYS assume its localized |
| 23:24.08 | Arrowmaster | because it almost always is |
| 23:24.24 | Arrowmaster | actually i take that back |
| 23:24.44 | Arrowmaster | its always localized unless the function provides both a localized and unlocalized return |
| 23:25.21 | doom0r | just feed it the two ids, get your localized ones, check for the stances against them, both indices |
| 23:25.39 | Torhal | Ackis: Why do you keep tagging release versions of abandoned addons? /confused |
| 23:25.48 | *** join/#wowace Fisker- (i=ballmer@85.24.18.152.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 23:25.59 | erikh | give da people what dey want |
| 23:27.08 | *** join/#wowace Wobin (n=Wobin@124-168-131-200.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:27.08 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Wobin] by ChanServ |
| 23:27.45 | Torhal | Zhinjio: ping |
| 23:29.27 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Dally1991 * r710 / (2 files in 2 directories): DrDamage: |
| 23:29.28 | Repo | - Added ruRU localization. (Thanks StingerSoft!) |
| 23:30.05 | Zhinjio | Torhal: pong. |
| 23:30.16 | Torhal | Did you try the latest Fortress? |
| 23:30.33 | Zhinjio | not yet, no. |
| 23:30.36 | Torhal | Changelog said something about refactoring options table |
| 23:30.37 | Zhinjio | I was going to shortly |
| 23:36.42 | *** join/#wowace lulzz (n=on1y@66.238.51.180.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 23:37.17 | Cynics | hey all does the BT4 author stop by any more? |
| 23:37.31 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:38.23 | Cynics | i was gogin over the forums and not seeing nay reports of vechile bar |
| 23:38.31 | Cynics | and bugs related to it |
| 23:38.36 | Arrowmaster | it has one |
| 23:39.05 | Pneumatus | a bug or a bar? :o |
| 23:39.14 | Arrowmaster | bar |
| 23:39.17 | Cynics | so it is known that when you get into a vechile you have a chance where none of the actions work and you have to relog |
| 23:39.19 | Cynics | ? |
| 23:39.33 | Cynics | id consider it a bug |
| 23:39.38 | Arrowmaster | afaik thats a wow bug |
| 23:39.39 | Cynics | not a bar problem |
| 23:39.46 | Arrowmaster | people have it happen with no addons |
| 23:39.49 | Pneumatus | yeh, the default UI bugs |
| 23:40.00 | Cynics | oh really |
| 23:40.02 | Pneumatus | i've experienced it with no bar addons |
| 23:40.29 | Arrowmaster | for example on malygos ive heard you need to detarget him as phase3 starts as you are falling before you get on the drake |
| 23:40.31 | *** join/#wowace Droolio (n=drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 23:41.12 | Cynics | i have a problem on maly/WG and Occ every time i run...well that is shitty |
| 23:41.26 | Pneumatus | ive had the actiobar bug in wintergrasp on several occasions with no bar mods running |
| 23:42.56 | Fisker- | so Kaelten |
| 23:43.00 | Fisker- | did you find your driver's license? |
| 23:43.37 | ckknight | he did |
| 23:43.55 | Primer | Cynics: I had that happen the other day |
| 23:43.59 | Primer | and relogging didn't fix it |
| 23:44.34 | Primer | In wintergrasp I wasn't able to fire the catapult. The same day, even after relogging, I wasn't able to effect any of the actions in the SoH wyrm riding daily |
| 23:45.30 | *** join/#wowace Godzmack_ (n=Godzmack@85-220-10-51.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 23:45.52 | Cynics | yea, it has been posted in the bug forums in on WoW forums |
| 23:49.03 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=Tuller@c-76-27-160-125.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
