| 00:00.22 | onaforeignshore | which is best svn, git or hg? (hides away) |
| 00:00.29 | ckknight | I prefer git |
| 00:00.31 | ckknight | we use hg at work |
| 00:00.34 | *** join/#wowace Hjalte (n=chatzill@62.242.38.50) |
| 00:00.34 | nevcairiel | git, imho |
| 00:00.35 | ckknight | it's okay |
| 00:00.37 | ckknight | svn can suck my balls. |
| 00:00.38 | nevcairiel | but svn is the easiest |
| 00:00.39 | ckknight | both of them. |
| 00:00.43 | Repo | 10wishlist: 03XIU * r43 / (12 files in 3 directories): Wishlist: |
| 00:00.44 | ckknight | yea, svn's "easy" |
| 00:00.46 | Repo | - Fixed externals |
| 00:00.48 | Repo | - Added WotLK factions |
| 00:00.51 | Repo | - Removed translations for Factions (using LibBabble-Factions now) |
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| 00:01.25 | nevcairiel | if you've never used any of those before, i suggest you use svn, since you'll most likely never need the advantages git or hg offer |
| 00:02.34 | Repo | 10wishlist: 03XIU 04stable * r44 : Wishlist: |
| 00:02.36 | Repo | - Tagged as stable |
| 00:02.52 | onaforeignshore | no windows native git |
| 00:03.00 | Hjalte | Is anyone aware of any reasons why my latency might be higher with my new computer than my old one at the same connection? (besides from wow being especially stubborn that day) |
| 00:03.04 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: false. |
| 00:03.08 | ckknight | well |
| 00:03.10 | ckknight | arguably |
| 00:03.17 | ckknight | is msysgit considered native? |
| 00:03.32 | ckknight | Hjalte: no downloads or other craziness? |
| 00:03.32 | onaforeignshore | though a compatibility layer - msys |
| 00:03.48 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:03.51 | ckknight | windows suck. |
| 00:03.52 | ckknight | sucks* |
| 00:04.10 | ckknight | but git on windows still works |
| 00:04.10 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 00:04.10 | ckknight | they're working on TortoiseGit |
| 00:04.20 | onaforeignshore | MSYS - MinGW (minimalist gnu for windows) = linux layer :p |
| 00:04.21 | doom0r | Hjalte: failed checksumming or autonegotiation? |
| 00:04.38 | Hjalte | doom0r: What's that? |
| 00:04.55 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: clearly Windows should've made a less shitty POSIX compliancy layer :-P |
| 00:05.05 | onaforeignshore | clearly |
| 00:05.07 | ckknight | hehe |
| 00:05.11 | ckknight | whatever |
| 00:05.13 | ckknight | use what you want |
| 00:05.17 | onaforeignshore | wonder what vista's posix compliancy is though |
| 00:05.19 | ckknight | hg works fine on windows |
| 00:05.23 | ckknight | same as XP's |
| 00:05.30 | Hjalte | ckknight: No downloads. I'm especially wondering if there have been any latency "tricks" I could have applied to my old computer that the new one is lacking. |
| 00:05.33 | onaforeignshore | probably |
| 00:05.37 | onaforeignshore | but then it's M$ |
| 00:05.37 | doom0r | checksum can be handled by the cpu or nic, there's an option in the nic's properties, and autonegotiation is determining link speed rather than forcing a set rate |
| 00:05.44 | ckknight | Hjalte: *shrug* |
| 00:06.04 | Hjalte | ckknight: I know most of them are probably bogus, but I have a bad memory :) |
| 00:06.11 | onaforeignshore | M$: if it ain't broke, hack at it until it is :p |
| 00:06.17 | doom0r | also if you're on dsl, they use odd mtu sizes sometimes |
| 00:06.18 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:10.39 | Silowyi | is there an addon that lets you link spells, similar to how you can link items from Ludwig or what not |
| 00:10.53 | onaforeignshore | Mercurial (hg) is a pain in the arse cause you need a seperate merge program... and since I use "e editor" which uses Cygwin anyway... :) |
| 00:10.54 | Silowyi | not just your own spells/talents |
| 00:11.57 | Aiiane | tortoisehg at least comes with its own merge program |
| 00:15.28 | Aeyan | Silowyi: MobSpells works for, well, self explanitory I guess. |
| 00:15.40 | Aeyan | Dunno one for player spells |
| 00:16.30 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: *shrug* I just tend to edit the conflicted files with my editor |
| 00:17.16 | Silowyi | thanks Aeyan |
| 00:17.25 | Xinhuan | i use msysgit myself |
| 00:17.57 | onaforeignshore | Aiiane: does tortoisehg work on Vista x64? |
| 00:18.28 | Aiiane | yes and no; it does work, but you need to run an instance of 32bit explorer for the context menus to work |
| 00:18.41 | thul | I want a minimalist, but still usable UI. |
| 00:18.45 | Aiiane | (since tortoisehg is a 32bit executable, and you can't inject 32bit exes into 64bit ones) |
| 00:18.53 | onaforeignshore | crap |
| 00:18.58 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r5 / (2 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 00:18.59 | Repo | manually embed: |
| 00:19.02 | ckknight | protip: vista can suck my balls |
| 00:19.03 | Repo | LibStub |
| 00:19.05 | Repo | CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 00:19.07 | Repo | LibDataBroker-1.1 |
| 00:19.09 | Aiiane | by explorer, i don't mean the shell itself |
| 00:19.13 | Aiiane | just the file explorer |
| 00:19.28 | onaforeignshore | I know, but that still is crap |
| 00:19.54 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r75 enUS.lua: Add enUS.lua |
| 00:20.14 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r6 libs/ (8 files in 4 directories): add the libs |
| 00:20.14 | onaforeignshore | looks like I'll have to use cygwin git :( |
| 00:22.09 | haste | use mercurial instead if you have to use windows \:D/ |
| 00:22.53 | Xinhuan | haste, msysgit's gui is "fine" as is |
| 00:23.00 | haste | has no idea. |
| 00:23.00 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r76 enUS.lua: esES => enUS |
| 00:23.05 | Xinhuan | i rarely ever use the command line |
| 00:23.07 | Xinhuan | although i can |
| 00:23.11 | haste | I just hear a lot of people complain about git on windows |
| 00:23.16 | Aiiane | I found trying to push from git's gui painful at best |
| 00:23.19 | haste | I only use the commandline |
| 00:23.20 | Xinhuan | dunno, i have had 0 complaints |
| 00:23.20 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r31 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
| 00:23.23 | Repo | - revert library cull :( |
| 00:23.26 | Xinhuan | everything's doable in the gui |
| 00:23.39 | Xinhuan | down to cherry picks |
| 00:23.40 | onaforeignshore | I have cygwin installed already, so adding msys is looking for trouble |
| 00:23.53 | Aiiane | doable != enjoyable |
| 00:24.12 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 00:24.26 | onaforeignshore | so that makes it a linux command line git via cygwin |
| 00:24.43 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r77 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 00:24.48 | haste | how about using coLinux? |
| 00:24.48 | nevcairiel | i never figured out how to properly use the GUI |
| 00:24.51 | nevcairiel | CLI is so much easier |
| 00:25.21 | nevcairiel | I should really stop playing WoW so i can switch to linux already |
| 00:25.30 | Aiiane | wow runs in wine pretty well iirc |
| 00:25.34 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:25.38 | nevcairiel | no, it doesnt |
| 00:25.38 | haste | plays under wine. |
| 00:25.41 | nevcairiel | it only runs on opengl |
| 00:25.44 | haste | yes |
| 00:25.48 | nevcairiel | and WoW in opengl is fail |
| 00:25.52 | haste | why? |
| 00:25.54 | nevcairiel | blizz fails at proper opengl usage |
| 00:25.59 | nevcairiel | compare it to dx sometime |
| 00:26.00 | haste | how so? |
| 00:26.02 | nevcairiel | you'll notice :) |
| 00:26.07 | nevcairiel | the gfx quality sucks |
| 00:26.14 | haste | dx is full of glitches under wine |
| 00:26.20 | haste | so that's a no go |
| 00:26.28 | nevcairiel | thats why i use windows for playing |
| 00:26.31 | Xinhuan | Aiiane: http://kinkou.net/xinftp/copypaste.jpg |
| 00:26.36 | haste | I don't have windows D: |
| 00:26.46 | onaforeignshore | I had 4 distros of linux attempting to run wow on wine... in the end I just bought Vista |
| 00:26.52 | Xinhuan | that was quite a while ago though |
| 00:26.55 | Xinhuan | a few months old |
| 00:26.58 | Xinhuan | but yeah |
| 00:27.11 | haste | neither do I have a computer to run vista |
| 00:27.15 | nevcairiel | maybe if wow manages to bore me enough |
| 00:27.26 | nevcairiel | i can finally stop caring about the gfx quality |
| 00:27.31 | haste | and gfx quality doesn't really matter |
| 00:27.32 | nevcairiel | and only use it for coding in opengl :P |
| 00:27.42 | onaforeignshore | and for some reason whenever you went indoors using wow the minimap went white (a known bug) |
| 00:27.43 | nevcairiel | to me it does |
| 00:27.48 | haste | I still play quake 2 :D |
| 00:27.54 | thul | I think I have to buy an eizo 24" s-pva display |
| 00:27.58 | Xinhuan | but i don't actually have a problem with the gui ;p |
| 00:28.01 | nevcairiel | i could probably play quake2 on my ipod |
| 00:28.18 | Aiiane | Xinhuan: what was that screenshot supposed to show |
| 00:28.32 | Xinhuan | its just to show what the gui looks like ;p |
| 00:28.37 | Xinhuan | although its partially hidden |
| 00:28.42 | Aiiane | I know what the gui looks like |
| 00:28.54 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 00:28.55 | nevcairiel | I installed QGit, i like it for changeset browsing |
| 00:28.55 | Aiiane | I have it installed, and I've played with it on a smaller project or two |
| 00:29.01 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r78 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 00:29.01 | Aiiane | doesn't mean I like it |
| 00:29.11 | Xinhuan | what's your preference? |
| 00:29.13 | Aiiane | hg |
| 00:29.21 | Xinhuan | because? |
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| 00:29.26 | Aiiane | its gui is more logical |
| 00:29.39 | nevcairiel | hg has a gui? |
| 00:29.42 | ckknight | hg manifest vs. git ls-tree |
| 00:29.43 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:29.46 | nevcairiel | wonder if i installed that |
| 00:29.53 | Aiiane | nevcairiel: tortoisehg |
| 00:29.56 | Xinhuan | got a screenshot? |
| 00:29.58 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 00:30.01 | nevcairiel | i didnt install that |
| 00:30.02 | onaforeignshore | now I have no idea which to use lol |
| 00:30.06 | Aiiane | Xinhuan: it's not something a screenshot could show |
| 00:30.16 | haste | nevcairiel: q2 requires like a 66mhz or so :p |
| 00:30.18 | Aiiane | it's just how various functions are laid out and linked together |
| 00:30.23 | haste | I remember having a 133 and playing it at lneast |
| 00:30.44 | haste | 90mhz recommended :D |
| 00:30.45 | nevcairiel | haste: somehow i think an ipod should manage that, it can decode mp4 movies! |
| 00:30.56 | haste | mm |
| 00:31.09 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme 04v1.2.3 * r32 : FuBar_RaidSaveFu: |
| 00:31.11 | Repo | - reverted some messy embeds changes |
| 00:31.14 | Repo | - updated to show Normal/Heroic status in tooltip |
| 00:31.17 | Repo | - tagging for v1.2.3 |
| 00:31.34 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r79 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 00:31.52 | nevcairiel | haste: there is Quake3 for the iPod Touch or the iPhone :D |
| 00:32.19 | nevcairiel | i only have a default iPod though, 30GB version |
| 00:33.06 | haste | nevcairiel: I know |
| 00:33.21 | haste | the iPhone is a 667 ARM or so |
| 00:33.44 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r80 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 00:34.00 | haste | 620mhz actually |
| 00:34.03 | Torhal | Xinhuan: So Auctionator's hook breaks my hook for the duration? |
| 00:34.40 | Xinhuan | auctionator (note: not auctioneer) adds its own hook when Blizzard_AuctionUI loads |
| 00:34.59 | Xinhuan | if alt-key is held down, its not passing on the clicks to the original function it hooked |
| 00:35.09 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r81 TestAlpha.lua: Blah! |
| 00:35.16 | Xinhuan | (it uses alt-click to move an item to the auction window for quick auctions) |
| 00:35.34 | Xinhuan | so your addon works - until i visit the AH |
| 00:35.36 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 00:35.38 | Torhal | Ah |
| 00:36.35 | Xinhuan | not really sure if there's anything you can do about it |
| 00:36.43 | Torhal | Guess it's time to add a modifier config. |
| 00:36.45 | ckknight | I have success! |
| 00:36.57 | Xinhuan | your addon has config? lol |
| 00:37.07 | Torhal | Not yet |
| 00:37.11 | thul | hmm, i wonder how good led-screens are now |
| 00:37.24 | Torhal | I didn't want it to, but the modifier key is apparently an issue |
| 00:39.03 | Torhal | Though - the other two alternatives have their own issues |
| 00:39.20 | Torhal | Shift would break stack-splitting. Control would disable dressup. |
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| 00:39.55 | Kivin | The only thing I use Auctioneer for is auto-pricematching. Is there an alternative addon I can use w/o all the bloat? |
| 00:40.16 | Xinhuan | hence i said i don't really see a solution |
| 00:40.27 | Xinhuan | might probably just edit the code in auctionator |
| 00:41.24 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r82 zhCN.lua: add zhCN |
| 00:41.25 | Aiiane | Xinhuan: but if you were wondering about tortoisehg's gui anyways, here's the changelog tool: http://www.aiiane.net/images/hg_cl.jpg |
| 00:41.48 | Aiiane | the look itself isn't that different |
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| 00:42.07 | Xinhuan | looks roughly the same as gitk |
| 00:42.22 | Xinhuan | i'll agree with you on that one, about looks |
| 00:43.25 | onaforeignshore | so hg is the only one where all the keyword substitutions work? |
| 00:43.30 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r83 zhCN.lua: znCN => zhCN |
| 00:43.42 | Aiiane | it's the only one where all the keyword substitutions are *relevant* |
| 00:43.48 | Aiiane | git doesn't have revision numbers |
| 00:43.54 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: git doesn't have revision numbers and svn doesn't have hashes |
| 00:43.55 | Aiiane | so substitutions for them are irrelevant |
| 00:43.58 | Aiiane | ^ |
| 00:44.18 | onaforeignshore | so tortoisehg it is then |
| 00:44.27 | Xinhuan | did hg come after or before git |
| 00:44.33 | nevcairiel | after |
| 00:44.38 | Xinhuan | that would explain it ;p |
| 00:44.49 | Aiiane | I believe hg was one of the git people splitting off over a difference in opinion, iirc? |
| 00:45.04 | Aiiane | or something like that |
| 00:45.13 | nevcairiel | hg is pretty slow on adapting the really useful features from git though |
| 00:45.14 | Aiiane | either splitting off, or having the difference in opinion from the start |
| 00:45.19 | nevcairiel | well at least they just recently got rebasing |
| 00:45.32 | ckknight | Aiiane: yea |
| 00:45.42 | ckknight | alright, hoorah |
| 00:45.49 | ckknight | test-alpha has localizations through keywords |
| 00:45.58 | Xinhuan | so what advantages does hg offer over git apart from revision numbers |
| 00:46.05 | ckknight | better windows support |
| 00:46.07 | nevcairiel | native windows? :p |
| 00:46.09 | nevcairiel | thats about it |
| 00:46.13 | Xinhuan | well apart from that |
| 00:46.14 | nevcairiel | feature-wise, git has more |
| 00:46.19 | Arrowmaster | from a technical aspect none |
| 00:46.19 | Xinhuan | more interested in functional differences |
| 00:46.32 | ckknight | http://whygitisbetterthanx.com/#hg |
| 00:46.55 | ckknight | though hg is getting cheap local branches |
| 00:47.09 | Arrowmaster | the fact that it doesnt have them already makes it fail |
| 00:47.56 | Xinhuan | according to that page, hg doesn't have cheap local branching? |
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| 00:48.13 | nevcairiel | not yet |
| 00:48.19 | Aiiane | staging is something that I'd like to see in hg, but it's not a game-breaker for me |
| 00:49.00 | nevcairiel | i abuse that alot |
| 00:49.03 | Arrowmaster | arent branches in hg currently in some way that makes you have to create a new checkout/clone to make and use a new branch |
| 00:49.20 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: no you can do real branches too |
| 00:49.29 | nevcairiel | but not "cheap local" branches |
| 00:49.30 | onaforeignshore | this is like windows (svn) vs linux (git) vs osx (hg) :p |
| 00:49.40 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 00:49.41 | mjc | honestly hg is still way too slow for me to do anything other than laugh |
| 00:49.53 | Arrowmaster | thats a good analogy since hg steals everything from git |
| 00:50.03 | ckknight | lol |
| 00:50.05 | mjc | hg was around before git |
| 00:50.11 | mjc | and it sucked, and continues to suck |
| 00:50.16 | onaforeignshore | and linux before osx |
| 00:50.34 | ckknight | don't make stupid analogies. |
| 00:50.36 | mjc | nextstep was written at about the same time as linux :P |
| 00:50.38 | nevcairiel | it was? i couldnt find any release schedule on hg |
| 00:50.49 | mjc | nevcairiel: linus wrote git because everything else sucked |
| 00:50.51 | Xinhuan | so there's no real reason to convert to hg then |
| 00:50.58 | ckknight | Xinhuan: windows support. |
| 00:50.59 | mjc | you should watch his presentation @ google about it, also the one by randal |
| 00:51.04 | ckknight | Xinhuan: that's it. |
| 00:51.09 | Xinhuan | i'm perfectly happy with msysgit though ;p |
| 00:51.12 | nevcairiel | mjc: that doesnt exactly imply that hg was aroudn to suck too :) |
| 00:51.12 | ckknight | Xinhuan: and they're working on TortoiseGit and such. |
| 00:51.13 | onaforeignshore | ok, so which git client do I get for windows? |
| 00:51.18 | ckknight | msysgit |
| 00:51.20 | mjc | msysgit works fine so does the cygwin implementation |
| 00:51.21 | Xinhuan | since i don't have to use cygwin |
| 00:51.24 | Arrowmaster | tortoisegit is fail |
| 00:51.26 | mjc | nevcairiel: he mentions it in specific |
| 00:51.31 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: but it might not be always |
| 00:51.34 | Aiiane | onaforeignshore: there's only really one at the moment, if you want GUI |
| 00:51.35 | nevcairiel | oh well then |
| 00:51.39 | Arrowmaster | the entire idea is fail |
| 00:51.46 | ckknight | how so? |
| 00:51.56 | mjc | the biggest problem with the wowace repo at the moment is that it is one giant repo |
| 00:51.57 | Arrowmaster | is it going to intergrate with explorer? |
| 00:52.03 | onaforeignshore | msysgit has the gui, right? |
| 00:52.04 | Xinhuan | probably |
| 00:52.05 | nevcairiel | regarding cygwin, be careful with the pure cygwin shell, it doesnt really care about windows permission model, so it creates screwed up permissions |
| 00:52.09 | Xinhuan | onaforeignshore: yes |
| 00:52.09 | ckknight | mjc: at the moment = 3 months ago? |
| 00:52.09 | nevcairiel | no inheritance etc |
| 00:52.14 | Arrowmaster | like all the other tortoiseX stuff |
| 00:52.15 | Aiiane | because the people writing git are people like Arrowmaster who are too elitist to cater to the same people who'd want it in the first place, ckknight :P |
| 00:52.22 | Arrowmaster | if not then its got a stupid name |
| 00:52.22 | ckknight | Aiiane: yea. |
| 00:52.32 | mjc | ckknight: oh, that could have changed since I last had commit, sure |
| 00:52.34 | mjc | my bad :) |
| 00:52.38 | ckknight | mjc: which rock have you been hiding under? |
| 00:52.47 | mjc | ckknight: a big one :P |
| 00:52.49 | ckknight | k |
| 00:52.57 | mjc | kinda smelly here also |
| 00:52.57 | ckknight | have you seen wowace's front page recently? |
| 00:52.58 | ckknight | :-P |
| 00:53.13 | thul | I just hate christian conservatives. |
| 00:53.23 | mjc | thul: rofl |
| 00:53.44 | ckknight | thul: it's okay, Jesus still loves you |
| 00:53.52 | ckknight | (not really, he's dead) |
| 00:54.02 | mjc | ckknight: last time I went to wowace's front page was when all the updaters broke :P |
| 00:54.10 | ckknight | mjc: ah. yea, good times. |
| 00:54.17 | Arrowmaster | which would have been post merge |
| 00:54.33 | thul | haha, seriously, my family is full of them.. quoting ann coulter and predicting mass war by muslims this time next year. |
| 00:54.51 | *** join/#wowace p3lim (n=p3lim@084202164112.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 00:55.09 | ckknight | thul: support our Israeli allies: http://pizzaidf.org/ |
| 00:55.15 | Xinhuan | the only reason i go to wowace's front page now is to access the admin stuff ;p |
| 00:55.45 | ckknight | so that they may lead the front against our Muslim enemies |
| 00:55.45 | ckknight | Xinhuan: hehe |
| 00:55.45 | Aeyan | p3lim: I like the new pError method. |
| 00:55.45 | mjc | thul: I'm not interested in religion personally but having a messed up family is not a reason to discriminate |
| 00:55.59 | Xinhuan | perhaps if it had a blue tracker or something on the front page, ppl would visit it more :) |
| 00:56.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, I mostly just go to wowace.com/p/<my-project> |
| 00:56.22 | ckknight | well, we don't really care if people visit wowace's front page or not. |
| 00:56.32 | mjc | it would be nice to have a 'top 10 most updated this week' on the front page or something. haha |
| 00:56.37 | ckknight | meh |
| 00:56.43 | Xinhuan | what you need: Top 10 downloaded |
| 00:56.47 | Xinhuan | "top 10 viewed" |
| 00:56.50 | ckknight | we don't have those stats. |
| 00:56.51 | mjc | hate those |
| 00:56.53 | Xinhuan | "whats hot this week" |
| 00:57.00 | mjc | top 10 viewed is a bad idea |
| 00:57.01 | Xinhuan | you planned them i believe |
| 00:57.13 | Xinhuan | or at least, download counts were supposed to be available |
| 00:57.14 | mjc | why would i want to see what everyone else has? |
| 00:57.28 | Xinhuan | i still have no idea how popular my addons really are, for eg |
| 00:57.29 | mjc | people want to see cool stuff, not popular stuff |
| 00:57.35 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I can tell you. |
| 00:57.38 | Aiiane | another annoyance with the git gUI |
| 00:57.39 | Aiiane | GUI |
| 00:57.45 | ckknight | Xinhuan: what addon you want me to check? |
| 00:57.51 | Xinhuan | well mjc, generally something that is really cool, is popular |
| 00:57.51 | p3lim | Aeyan: so do I :) |
| 00:57.52 | Aiiane | closing the gui doesn't necessarily kill its background processes -_- |
| 00:57.56 | mjc | Aiiane: there are a lot of git guis, I don't suggest using any of them |
| 00:58.00 | Xinhuan | erm bankitems? |
| 00:58.01 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:58.12 | Aiiane | mjc: some of us like GUIs. |
| 00:58.22 | nevcairiel | QGit is quite decent |
| 00:58.23 | ckknight | Xinhuan: you have an install base of 20400 users |
| 00:58.31 | nevcairiel | i only use it for changeset browsing though |
| 00:58.35 | mjc | Aiiane: I understand that, but even the git gui that comes iwth it is designed to be spawned by the command line |
| 00:58.38 | nevcairiel | any other repository interaction i use CLI for |
| 00:58.38 | Xinhuan | wow that's large |
| 00:58.40 | thul | mjc: discriminate? |
| 00:58.46 | mjc | thul: "hate" |
| 00:58.53 | thul | mjc: well, it is rational hate. |
| 00:58.55 | mjc | nevcairiel: that's how I would suggest using it |
| 00:58.56 | thul | all ok with me :-P |
| 00:58.57 | ckknight | Xinhuan: you get 24 points. |
| 00:59.12 | Xinhuan | it would be useful if these numbers were available for viewing ;p |
| 00:59.15 | nevcairiel | check Bartender4? =P |
| 00:59.21 | ckknight | yea, sorry, not until premium launches |
| 00:59.21 | mjc | thul: hate is a feeling, feelings don't have anything to do with rationality |
| 00:59.22 | Xinhuan | at least, if i were to browse for new addons to install |
| 00:59.39 | Xinhuan | i would go "hey 20400 ppl installed this addon, maybe it does something useful" |
| 00:59.45 | ckknight | Xinhuan: so you get a 60-day WoW card every 25 days. |
| 00:59.48 | ckknight | just from BankItems |
| 00:59.56 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 00:59.58 | mjc | Xinhuan: that's a bad way to do it, like I was saying, look at the top addons list on curse |
| 01:00.10 | Xinhuan | yes mjc, but i don't look at just the top 10 |
| 01:00.16 | Aiiane | mjc: which doesn't change the fact that it's a downside of the GUI |
| 01:00.19 | Xinhuan | i look at the top 50 and pick the ones i want |
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| 01:00.28 | Xinhuan | chances are, out of the top 50 at least 5 are useful |
| 01:00.30 | ckknight | Xinhuan: for Omen, you get a 60-day game card every 30 hours. |
| 01:00.31 | Xinhuan | to any user |
| 01:00.34 | ckknight | (btw) |
| 01:00.39 | Xinhuan | /gasp |
| 01:00.43 | thul | mjc: feelings are perfectly rational :-) most of them anyway. |
| 01:00.51 | Xinhuan | wts timecards |
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| 01:00.56 | ckknight | Xinhuan: that is, if you keep all your points and don't split em up any |
| 01:01.09 | Xinhuan | well technically 99.5% of the code in omen3 is mine |
| 01:01.15 | ckknight | well then |
| 01:01.18 | Xinhuan | 0.5% belongs to antiarc |
| 01:01.20 | ckknight | you'd better fucking split up that last 0.5% |
| 01:01.30 | Aeyan | Haha |
| 01:01.35 | ckknight | :P |
| 01:01.40 | Xinhuan | and 0% nevcairiel ;p |
| 01:01.42 | ckknight | Xinhuan: we should have XBoxes and such available |
| 01:01.42 | nevcairiel | How much do embeded libs get, compared to the addon itself? rough percentage? |
| 01:01.57 | ckknight | nevcairiel: well, libs have a separate pool |
| 01:01.59 | ckknight | there's 3 pools created |
| 01:02.01 | ckknight | 88% = addons |
| 01:02.03 | Aeyan | My addon just broke 1k on Curse. |
| 01:02.07 | ckknight | 2% = bonus (for admins to distribute) |
| 01:02.08 | Aeyan | I'm kicking ass here. |
| 01:02.10 | ckknight | 10% = libraries |
| 01:02.11 | mjc | Aiiane: the only things you really should even bother with a gui for is changeset browsing and merging. one sec whilst I look up the tool I used to use on windows |
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| 01:02.22 | mjc | Aiiane: qgit is good for changeset browsing though, for sure |
| 01:02.29 | Xinhuan | care to tell us how many timecards you get from pitbull? |
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| 01:02.35 | Xinhuan | in comparison |
| 01:02.40 | Xinhuan | or fubar |
| 01:02.41 | ckknight | for each addon, they add their score divided by the number of libraries used to each library |
| 01:02.48 | nevcairiel | ckknight: does it automagically distribute on libs from externals in pkgmeta or do you need to specifiy it? |
| 01:02.54 | Aiiane | mjc: I don't typically keep a console open for windows development. a right-click is faster than starting one up. |
| 01:02.59 | ckknight | nevcairiel: from externals, but it can be manually specified as well |
| 01:03.12 | nevcairiel | does it do that already? |
| 01:03.15 | nevcairiel | how much gets LibStub? =P |
| 01:03.23 | Xinhuan | (rofl libstub) |
| 01:03.44 | Pneumatus | QH is gonna be like an xbox a day isnt it :o |
| 01:03.49 | Aiiane | bonus pool = house cut, imo. :P |
| 01:04.13 | mjc | Aiiane: you can try Giggle |
| 01:04.44 | ckknight | LibStub has an install base of 3814 and an extended install base of 147084 |
| 01:04.52 | Aiiane | mjc: I don't really feel like trying anything, hg works fine for my purposes |
| 01:05.02 | ckknight | Aiiane: nah, Kaelten and I already get enough points |
| 01:05.05 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:05.09 | mjc | Aiiane: you asked, I was offering, nothing more :P |
| 01:05.18 | Aiiane | actually I didn't ask :P |
| 01:05.50 | ckknight | QH has an install base of 555481, or 45% more than Omen |
| 01:05.56 | ckknight | btw |
| 01:06.06 | ckknight | I have the user-by-user breakdown as well |
| 01:06.07 | nevcairiel | is it just me, or is http://www.wowace.com/home/ bugged? |
| 01:06.10 | mjc | hmm they even have a sourcesafe style gui |
| 01:06.12 | nevcairiel | doesnt show the menu bar for me |
| 01:06.17 | mjc | ooor had. |
| 01:06.31 | Pneumatus | so QH is like a 60day card a day then :o |
| 01:06.33 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i need a new xbox, up my percentages on your projects im marked as an author on until i get enough points for one |
| 01:06.35 | ckknight | nevcairiel: looks fine to me |
| 01:06.44 | mjc | http://www.kodespace.com/gitSafe/ |
| 01:06.46 | Pneumatus | infact, 45% more, over 1 a day |
| 01:06.48 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: k, gimme a list of what projects and what percent you think you deserve. |
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| 01:07.31 | Arrowmaster | ill have to make one someday then |
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| 01:07.43 | ckknight | yea, I'm fine with giving you what you deserve |
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| 01:07.56 | nevcairiel | ckknight: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ed16cceb67bad4a24d1507609233cf9d.jpg |
| 01:08.03 | nevcairiel | its missing something :/ |
| 01:08.07 | ckknight | nevcairiel: gnomes stole it |
| 01:08.23 | Pneumatus | how is install base calculated ckknight: current CC installed users + something? |
| 01:08.37 | ckknight | Pneumatus: no + something |
| 01:08.38 | Xinhuan | [1/4 09:05:36] <@ckknight> QH has an install base of 555481, or 45% more than Omen |
| 01:08.46 | Xinhuan | i totally cut and pasted that into guild chat |
| 01:08.59 | ckknight | Xinhuan: you can beat him if you believe |
| 01:09.22 | Pneumatus | so people not using the CC will actually be detrimental to users |
| 01:09.22 | Xinhuan | i probably have more users if i add up all my addons |
| 01:09.25 | Pneumatus | *authors |
| 01:09.27 | Xinhuan | than if he adds up all his |
| 01:09.27 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 01:09.33 | ckknight | Pneumatus: how can we measure at that point? |
| 01:09.40 | ckknight | Xinhuan: lemme get the number. |
| 01:09.49 | ckknight | first is me, let's skip that |
| 01:09.53 | ckknight | second is Zorba (for QH) |
| 01:09.54 | Pneumatus | ckknight: how about downloads by registered curse users not using the CC? |
| 01:09.55 | nevcairiel | web downloads from curse.com or so |
| 01:10.03 | ckknight | total base for zorba: 556179.00 |
| 01:10.12 | ckknight | total base for xinhuan: 385334.80 |
| 01:10.12 | Xinhuan | i would be interested in knowing how pitbull and fubar compares to QH/Omen |
| 01:10.22 | Arrowmaster | whats my current? |
| 01:10.23 | ckknight | Xinhuan: Cartographer is way up there. |
| 01:10.32 | Xinhuan | yes they are different addon categories |
| 01:10.33 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: not on the first page |
| 01:10.40 | nevcairiel | me? |
| 01:10.47 | Xinhuan | so the addons all listed here aren't in any competition against each other |
| 01:10.49 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: 9789.00 / 8823.50 |
| 01:10.49 | Pneumatus | guessing im not on the first page :P |
| 01:10.56 | ckknight | Xinhuan: they are all in competition! |
| 01:11.00 | Arrowmaster | probably because i get 0% from everything that im not the lead of |
| 01:11.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: we have a pool which we divide up |
| 01:11.12 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: right, that's why that list would be good to send me |
| 01:11.14 | Xinhuan | oh true |
| 01:11.26 | Pneumatus | i'm guessing my install base to be like 1000 users :P |
| 01:11.26 | Xinhuan | so to get more points, you need to have addons in every aspect of wow |
| 01:11.32 | Xinhuan | which i do :p |
| 01:11.51 | Xinhuan | although admittedly, my bar addon isn't very popular |
| 01:11.56 | Xinhuan | with probably a few hundred users |
| 01:11.59 | nevcairiel | does it even still work? |
| 01:12.02 | Xinhuan | yeah it does |
| 01:12.04 | ckknight | I have addons in most aspects of WoW |
| 01:12.07 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:12.17 | Xinhuan | i've updated it to 3.0 secureheaders, its awesome |
| 01:12.19 | nevcairiel | you write them and leave them be to collect points, that doesnt count =P |
| 01:12.29 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yes it does |
| 01:12.43 | ckknight | as far as curse is concerned, we're rewarding the addons that drive traffic to curse |
| 01:12.49 | ckknight | which means addons with downloads and install base |
| 01:12.52 | Arrowmaster | i should get atleast 10% from the damn rock libs for fixing them for 3.0 |
| 01:12.59 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I agree. |
| 01:13.06 | ckknight | the library pool is lucrative, too |
| 01:13.13 | ckknight | since there are less slices of the pie |
| 01:13.14 | nevcairiel | rock probably doesnt get that much, anyway |
| 01:13.21 | ckknight | nevcairiel: cartographer nets it a chunk |
| 01:13.30 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 01:13.34 | Shefki | PitBull does too. |
| 01:13.36 | nevcairiel | but compared to ace, its probably nothing |
| 01:13.45 | ckknight | lemme chek |
| 01:13.47 | ckknight | check* |
| 01:14.08 | nevcairiel | .oO ( does QH use Ace? ) |
| 01:14.14 | Arrowmaster | yay im already getting 10% from ace2 |
| 01:14.18 | ckknight | yea, Ace3 uses a chunk. |
| 01:14.24 | ckknight | err |
| 01:14.27 | ckknight | Ace3 get more than Rock |
| 01:14.29 | ckknight | by quite a chunk |
| 01:14.36 | pomp | lol some of my guildies during strand of the ancients got ported to the barrens, hmm |
| 01:14.39 | nevcairiel | yeah i set Ace2 and 3 up with some splits on involved people |
| 01:14.59 | Xinhuan | am i considered minorly for ace2/3 ?;p |
| 01:15.00 | mjc | I would like to see featured addons in the curse client |
| 01:15.01 | Pneumatus | ckknight: is my install base as measaly as im expecting it to be? |
| 01:15.26 | ckknight | Pneumatus: 3233.00 / 2061.00 |
| 01:15.52 | ckknight | the second number is library install base, btw |
| 01:15.52 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: whats the TrainWhistle install base? |
| 01:15.55 | Pneumatus | heh, well thats about 2k more than i was expecting |
| 01:16.46 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: 25 |
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| 01:16.52 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:16.57 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 01:17.02 | ckknight | gz |
| 01:17.12 | ckknight | okay, we're done for today |
| 01:17.14 | nevcairiel | any idea when premium will finally launch? |
| 01:17.20 | ckknight | nevcairiel: when the Curse Client is ready. |
| 01:17.22 | Arrowmaster | how much of LFBP-3.0 do you think i deserve? |
| 01:17.27 | nevcairiel | so |
| 01:17.32 | nevcairiel | be some time, then =P |
| 01:17.42 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: oh, I dunno. Just keep in mind that I wrote it, but you made it not break horribly |
| 01:17.56 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: so you made a good contribution |
| 01:17.57 | Arrowmaster | 10-20%? |
| 01:18.04 | Pneumatus | hey, i proposed a fix for jostle for 3.0! |
| 01:18.05 | ckknight | 25% |
| 01:18.10 | ckknight | I was gonna say |
| 01:18.11 | nevcairiel | ckknight: about that AceLocale thing, ticket it and i'll take care of it tomorrow, if it makes sense |
| 01:18.19 | Arrowmaster | 25%? sweet |
| 01:18.20 | ckknight | nevcairiel: will do |
| 01:18.31 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: did you ever merge in your non-Rock version? |
| 01:18.32 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: what did you fix? |
| 01:18.38 | ckknight | (I'm assuming that you had with this) |
| 01:18.39 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: a very long time ago |
| 01:18.41 | ckknight | okay |
| 01:18.43 | ckknight | then we're good |
| 01:18.55 | Xinhuan | /chuckle |
| 01:19.05 | Pneumatus | Arrowmaster: i sent you the pastey which you committed to fix jostle breaking on vehicle enter/exit :P |
| 01:19.09 | Torhal | ckknight: What do I have for nanoTalk and Revelation? Heh. |
| 01:19.09 | Xinhuan | what are you changing nevcairiel? |
| 01:19.09 | ckknight | nevcairiel: where you want me to ticket? |
| 01:19.12 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 01:19.18 | nevcairiel | ace3 project, of course |
| 01:19.25 | ckknight | Torhal: sorry, I'm done for today, too many people asking creates headaches |
| 01:19.36 | Torhal | Ah, I knew raiding IF was a bad idea. |
| 01:19.53 | ckknight | nevcairiel: you should make components. |
| 01:20.05 | nevcairiel | is that new? |
| 01:20.33 | ckknight | no, pre-wowace merge |
| 01:20.40 | ckknight | tickets -> create component |
| 01:20.54 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 01:20.58 | nevcairiel | will do that tomorrow too |
| 01:21.00 | ckknight | k |
| 01:21.02 | nevcairiel | i need some sleep now |
| 01:22.31 | mjc | is it possible to squeeze curse.com such that it spits out addon searches by description? |
| 01:22.52 | Pneumatus | or just generall fail less at searching |
| 01:23.33 | Pneumatus | search curse for omen, good luck finding it :) |
| 01:23.35 | mjc | I officially heart sexymap. |
| 01:24.23 | Aiiane | mjc: I highly prefer googling things with "site:wow.curse.com" on the end:P |
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| 01:25.24 | ckknight | curse's search sucks balls, yet certain things are done in order to "keep search working and fast" |
| 01:25.43 | ckknight | we have a db server dedicated to fulltext searching, which has caused horrible issues |
| 01:26.07 | Aiiane | googlemini, imo :P |
| 01:26.18 | mjc | ckknight: apache solr would be a good fit for the existing site |
| 01:26.22 | mjc | scales well, also |
| 01:26.32 | ckknight | mjc: not on an MS platform |
| 01:26.56 | ckknight | and even if it runs on windows, it's not MS and therefore sucks |
| 01:27.04 | ckknight | (note: I don't deal with curse.com shit) |
| 01:27.06 | mjc | ckknight: it's java :P |
| 01:27.13 | Skellum | aiiane.net = Terrorist site. Clearly |
| 01:27.19 | ckknight | then it must be horrible because it's not .NET |
| 01:27.24 | ckknight | :P |
| 01:27.46 | nevcairiel | Java.NET? |
| 01:27.48 | nevcairiel | hides |
| 01:28.09 | ckknight | :-P |
| 01:28.55 | mjc | ckknight: heh |
| 01:29.50 | Xinhuan | Zeksie, reporting that zoning correctly unsets my afk flag ;p |
| 01:30.08 | Zeksie | good :) |
| 01:30.16 | Xinhuan | haven't been in any raid yet though |
| 01:30.23 | Xinhuan | dont' think wintergrasp counts |
| 01:31.55 | onaforeignshore | can you use bbcode in the project discription or is it plain text? |
| 01:32.17 | Repo | 10sharedmedia: 03Arrowmaster * r173 / (11 files in 2 directories): Toc bump to 30000 |
| 01:32.47 | Arrowmaster | stupid svn properties, why the fuck was svn:executable set on media files |
| 01:33.49 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 01:34.01 | Xinhuan | onaforeignshore: both |
| 01:34.15 | Aiiane | onaforeignshore: there's a dropdown beneath the description box |
| 01:34.23 | Aiiane | which lets you choose what kind of markup you're using |
| 01:34.25 | Xinhuan | you can choose bbcode, plaintext, wiki code, or "simple html" |
| 01:34.43 | Aiiane | the last option being html, but with only certain elements allowed |
| 01:34.52 | Xinhuan | secure html rather |
| 01:35.39 | onaforeignshore | thanks |
| 01:36.25 | ckknight | "shitty html" |
| 01:36.32 | ckknight | either way, the adjective starts with an s. |
| 01:36.51 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r46 / (3 files in 1 directory): * Spanish support. |
| 01:36.53 | Repo | * Credit line for the mysterious committer who sneaks in ruRU additions. |
| 01:36.55 | Xinhuan | super html? |
| 01:37.26 | Aiiane | I tend to just stick with wikicode :P |
| 01:38.56 | Xinhuan | wikicode sucks for newlines though |
| 01:39.50 | Aiiane | the only place I care about newlines is in code |
| 01:39.53 | Xinhuan | like i can't force a <br> in it |
| 01:39.57 | Aiiane | in which case it's already getting <pre>'d |
| 01:40.11 | Xinhuan | where i want stuff to be in the same paragraph but not on the same lien |
| 01:40.18 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 042.4 * r47 : Tagging as 2.4, now with Spanish client support. |
| 01:40.31 | Zhinjio | I've got another freaking mod stuff itemcount info into the tooltip |
| 01:40.38 | Zhinjio | bankitems is turned off from that |
| 01:40.41 | Zhinjio | altoholic is now off |
| 01:40.44 | Zhinjio | something else |
| 01:40.44 | Aiiane | also, Xinhuan |
| 01:40.46 | Aiiane | you noob |
| 01:40.48 | Xinhuan | ratingbuster? |
| 01:40.50 | Aiiane | you can use <br> in wikicode |
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| 01:40.57 | Aiiane | and it operates exactly as you'd expect |
| 01:40.59 | Xinhuan | oh you can? lol |
| 01:41.00 | Zhinjio | hmm... could be |
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| 01:41.22 | Xinhuan | last i checked, it replaced my <br> with ;gt& |
| 01:41.28 | Xinhuan | and it displays a <br> |
| 01:41.34 | Xinhuan | or maybe i'm mistaken |
| 01:41.45 | Aiiane | you sure you didnt have something like bbcode selected? |
| 01:41.46 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 01:41.50 | Xinhuan | dunno |
| 01:41.52 | Zhinjio | ratingbuster doesn't have an option for item counts |
| 01:41.53 | Aiiane | because I just tested it, and <br> works fine in wikicode |
| 01:41.55 | Xinhuan | lazt to check now |
| 01:42.05 | Torhal | Zhinjio: It shouldn't, since it's a stats mod |
| 01:42.29 | Zhinjio | ok, hmm. |
| 01:42.33 | Zhinjio | so what else would be doing it. |
| 01:42.42 | Zhinjio | thinks |
| 01:42.44 | Torhal | I dunno. I have three in my tooltip and it's annoying. |
| 01:42.47 | Xinhuan | installed anything new? |
| 01:43.22 | Zhinjio | I want to use altoholics |
| 01:43.34 | Zhinjio | but thats off for th moment until I figure this out |
| 01:43.38 | Zhinjio | no, nothing new, really |
| 01:43.42 | Zhinjio | itemprice wouldn't |
| 01:43.48 | Zhinjio | I don't think |
| 01:44.09 | Xinhuan | you could probably sort your AddOns folder by "last updated" |
| 01:44.18 | Zhinjio | I did |
| 01:44.39 | Zhinjio | maybe overachiever. |
| 01:44.41 | Xinhuan | my last update of bankitems is over 2 months ago ;p |
| 01:44.46 | Zhinjio | although thats strikes me as out of scope |
| 01:44.55 | Zhinjio | bankitems has tooltips turned off atm |
| 01:45.20 | Zhinjio | I'll search for tooltip |
| 01:45.21 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 01:45.29 | Zhinjio | that should only yhield abotu a thousand hits |
| 01:46.16 | Zhinjio | 12830 occurences. |
| 01:46.18 | Zhinjio | yikes |
| 01:46.52 | Xinhuan | can search for :AddLine() |
| 01:46.57 | Xinhuan | and see what looks like its adding it |
| 01:47.03 | Xinhuan | :AddLine( |
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| 01:48.00 | Zhinjio | 3061 occurrences... thats a little better |
| 01:54.36 | Zhinjio | I think OverAchiever is the only one that could be it. checking closer now |
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| 01:59.05 | Repo | * Prevent restoring a tracking type if it's already the active type. |
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| 02:05.33 | Repo | update .pkgmeta to add back: |
| 02:05.35 | Repo | CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 02:05.38 | Repo | LibStub |
| 02:05.40 | Repo | LibQTip-1.0 |
| 02:06.05 | Zhinjio | well, I can't find it. bah |
| 02:13.07 | mjc | ckknight: did pitbull previously hide the rune frame and stop recently, or was I using another addon for that? :P |
| 02:13.29 | ckknight | PitBull moves the rune frame |
| 02:13.41 | mjc | ah. it's not moving it for me at the moment |
| 02:14.38 | mjc | it stays in the same spot when I move the character frame around |
| 02:14.43 | ckknight | odd. |
| 02:14.48 | ckknight | in any event, it'll be fixed in PB4 |
| 02:15.28 | Skellum | Check under your pet window Mjc |
| 02:15.39 | Skellum | A recent update seems to have changed something with the runeframe |
| 02:16.38 | onaforeignshore | PB3 and Skinner and no problem with runes |
| 02:16.42 | mjc | Skellum: it's stuck in the default position |
| 02:17.13 | Shefki | mjc: Use a vehicle recently? |
| 02:17.17 | mjc | no |
| 02:17.19 | mjc | lvl73 |
| 02:17.38 | Shefki | Because vehicles mess up the rune frame implementation in PitBull3. |
| 02:17.55 | Shefki | There's probably other stuff that does it too. It's a huge hack atm. |
| 02:18.15 | Aiiane | yay hacks |
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| 02:24.58 | ckknight | Shefki: yea, I want to make a proper rune module for PB4 |
| 02:25.09 | ckknight | rather than just move blizz' |
| 02:25.11 | ckknight | s |
| 02:25.27 | Shefki | Yeah I've been tempted to mess with it for PB4, but need to get this Aura stuff done. |
| 02:25.43 | doom0r | qq 1 more chip til exalted |
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| 02:26.45 | Shefki | ckknight: How can I move the Aura tab out of Other and move it up a level? |
| 02:27.01 | ckknight | Shefki: in your options function, return true at the start |
| 02:27.11 | ckknight | so it's return true, 'myoption', {} end |
| 02:27.14 | Shefki | k. |
| 02:28.19 | doom0r | bingo |
| 02:31.05 | Shefki | Mind if I make a new type of module? aura_filters? |
| 02:32.34 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1850 / (3 files in 3 directories): v5.02.07 release version |
| 02:34.34 | Zhinjio | I think a multi-achievement tracker is my next addon |
| 02:34.40 | Zhinjio | that limitation is just dumb |
| 02:34.51 | NivFreak | yes |
| 02:34.51 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.02.07 * r1851 : Tagging as v5.02.07 |
| 02:34.54 | NivFreak | I agree |
| 02:35.08 | NivFreak | also, mr pinchy needs to get in my bags |
| 02:35.36 | doom0r | what limitation? |
| 02:35.46 | NivFreak | can only track a single achievment |
| 02:35.51 | doom0r | lol |
| 02:35.54 | doom0r | Urban Achiever |
| 02:36.06 | thul | we had to use 6 attempts to get loken today |
| 02:36.07 | thul | juhu |
| 02:36.08 | doom0r | screw all the default stuff |
| 02:36.10 | thul | (heroic :-P ) |
| 02:36.14 | doom0r | searchable and multiple tracking |
| 02:36.50 | Zhinjio | alright, I already downloaded that, was trying overachiever first. |
| 02:37.19 | doom0r | overachiever i only turn on to do the squirrel/books/food and such |
| 02:37.24 | doom0r | then it goes back off |
| 02:37.35 | doom0r | urban achiever is the replacement for achievements |
| 02:37.40 | doom0r | can search all text and such |
| 02:37.42 | doom0r | vn |
| 02:37.57 | doom0r | only drawback is the horde/alliance on search |
| 02:38.14 | doom0r | but it's pretty interesting with that to find that they tally your stuff for cross faction still |
| 02:38.29 | doom0r | i.e. city defender gets tallied even in opposing factions cities |
| 02:38.34 | doom0r | you just don't get a complete ever |
| 02:38.58 | doom0r | for example, i'm ally, and my "horde" city defender shows 63/50 |
| 02:39.04 | Fisker- | i hate this |
| 02:39.24 | Fisker- | I have become the man who sleeps at day and stays up at night |
| 02:39.25 | Fisker- | :( |
| 02:39.31 | Fisker- | ;_; etc |
| 02:40.53 | Zhinjio | um, so it doesn't repalce the default achievement UI? |
| 02:40.55 | Zhinjio | or does it? |
| 02:41.03 | Zhinjio | and the "Shift-click" on the achievement isn't working |
| 02:41.22 | Zhinjio | aha |
| 02:41.27 | Zhinjio | I just rebound the key. no problem. |
| 02:43.36 | Xinhuan | Shefki |
| 02:43.53 | Xinhuan | its generally a bad idea to have moduleA be dependant on moduleB which is in turn dependant on moduleC |
| 02:44.14 | Xinhuan | the point of modules is independency |
| 02:44.15 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 02:44.50 | Xinhuan | this was actually a problem in Cartographer |
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| 02:45.32 | Xinhuan | where _Look-N-Feel couldn't actually be turned off, for eg, because _Notes (or something else) uses it somehow |
| 02:46.08 | Shefki | Xinhuan: aura_filters would have no purpose without the aura module. |
| 02:46.17 | Xinhuan | exactly, so put both together in one module |
| 02:46.18 | Shefki | Xinhuan: They're just a way to let people write their own filters. |
| 02:46.44 | Shefki | That changes what the aura module displays. |
| 02:47.20 | Xinhuan | should still be in one module, users can then download additional ones to change display |
| 02:47.24 | mjc | hmm. chrome nightly just locked up during heavy disk activity. woot |
| 02:47.38 | Shefki | How can they download additional ones if there's no way to add them? |
| 02:47.40 | Xinhuan | just a thought, you don't have to agree ;p |
| 02:47.41 | mjc | it's still going in the background but the foreground thread and the window border thread seem to be stuck |
| 02:48.01 | Shefki | Xinhuan: I basically ended up doing this with Pitbull3 it was just a hack though. |
| 02:48.14 | Shefki | For example on Kalecgos. There's a curse that you only want to decurse after 10-15 seconds. |
| 02:48.15 | Xinhuan | additional modules can just be separate addons |
| 02:48.53 | Shefki | So I wrote a module for PitBull3 that hid that debuff until you were ready to decurse it. |
| 02:49.04 | Xinhuan | for eg Cartographer_Notes is a core, but _Fishing was an addon module |
| 02:49.28 | Shefki | Xinhuan: The default filters would be bulit in to the Aura module. |
| 02:49.44 | Shefki | This is so that I can allow additional ones be implemented and allow them to be downloaded as addons. |
| 02:49.59 | thul | http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs38/f/2009/002/c/7/Strength_of_the_Dance_by_mjranum.jpg <- that is almost an optimal body, in my view (nsfw :-P ). I like fit women! :-D |
| 02:50.04 | Shefki | Obviously simple stuff like by name or what not will be possible without a download. |
| 02:50.20 | Shefki | But more complicated stuff like what I did for Kalecgos would take some code. |
| 02:50.34 | Xinhuan | this will compromise speed for configurability - tread with care ;p |
| 02:50.43 | Xinhuan | auras takes up a lot of cpu already |
| 02:50.54 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r8 tomQuest2.lua: |
| 02:50.57 | Repo | improve GameTooltip anchor for quests mouseover tracker or LDB tooltip |
| 02:51.26 | Shefki | Xinhuan: And 99% of the time I doubt most people will have an extra module enabled. |
| 02:51.41 | Xinhuan | you still have to check for their existence though |
| 02:51.59 | Xinhuan | and possibly pcall() them depending on your design |
| 02:52.01 | Shefki | See here's the deal. |
| 02:52.11 | Shefki | With PitBull3 I had to make an addon that walked UnitAura itself. |
| 02:52.21 | Shefki | So now I've got two addons walking UnitAura |
| 02:52.33 | Xinhuan | i'm not questioning that it will be better than PB3 |
| 02:52.48 | Shefki | Which is worse? A check for a callback and a callback, or walking unitAura from scratch for every unit multiple times? |
| 02:53.07 | Repo | 10fubar_groupfu: 03kunda * r133 GroupFuLocal-deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 02:53.09 | Xinhuan | i'm just tickling you with stuff for you to think about before writing any actual code ;p |
| 02:53.37 | Shefki | I want a way for extra mods to modify aura without duplicating what aura already does. |
| 02:53.43 | ckknight | thul: she's nice, but I don't dig curls on a brunette |
| 02:53.44 | Xinhuan | its how we end up with better coded mods :) |
| 02:54.13 | Shefki | I also want to eventually be able to let mods be written to cause arbitrary higlighting of frames. |
| 02:54.37 | Xinhuan | that's an interesting one |
| 02:54.37 | Xinhuan | can certainly see uses for it |
| 02:54.37 | ckknight | I'm all for that, btw |
| 02:54.37 | ckknight | just not sure a good API yet |
| 02:54.37 | Shefki | Instead of the limited "debuff type" highlighting we had in PB3. |
| 02:54.45 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:54.45 | Shefki | That feature is awesome, but I want to be able to say "For X debuff" turn the frame Z ocolor. |
| 02:55.04 | ckknight | Shefki: gotta keep in mind to take conflicts into account |
| 02:55.14 | ckknight | if two modules say they want to flash, who wins? |
| 02:55.42 | ckknight | I solved this with the fader module type (cause CombatFader and RangeCheck fought with PB3) by making the lower one win |
| 02:55.45 | Shefki | Hell PB3 didn't even havee a good answer to that. |
| 02:55.54 | ckknight | hehe |
| 02:56.07 | Xinhuan | but remember, all these compromise on efficiency - you don't necessarily have to implement every request ;p |
| 02:56.11 | Shefki | Poisons and Curses fought each other all the time. |
| 02:56.30 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Some of this stuff I specifically want. |
| 02:56.36 | Skellum | Hrm...CK mod request. |
| 02:56.39 | sztanpet | oh, if you guys are doing the debuff hilighting please add the Enrage type too |
| 02:56.40 | Xinhuan | AND, wintergrasp managed to crash and rollback 3 times |
| 02:56.41 | ckknight | Skellum: hit me |
| 02:56.44 | Skellum | I want a mod that writes new mods on its own |
| 02:56.47 | Aiiane | thwops ckknight |
| 02:56.49 | onaforeignshore | safe html is CRAP (c) with tables |
| 02:56.50 | Shefki | sztanpet: Enrage type? |
| 02:56.56 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: yes, don't use it. |
| 02:57.00 | Skellum | I'd like to call it Skynet |
| 02:57.04 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: I called it shitty html for a reason |
| 02:57.05 | sztanpet | yea, its like magic but enrage |
| 02:57.11 | ckknight | Skellum: I think you need LISP for that. |
| 02:57.16 | sztanpet | and its a buff usually |
| 02:57.23 | Shefki | Xinhuan: I haven't coded the filtering or highlights yet becuase I'm still trying to work out how to implmenet in a non-crappy way. |
| 02:57.30 | Shefki | And ckknight honestly, that's a very good question. |
| 02:57.38 | Shefki | about the priority thing. |
| 02:57.40 | Xinhuan | care to share how you think you want to implement it? |
| 02:57.45 | ckknight | Shefki: hmm... |
| 02:57.53 | ckknight | Shefki: perhaps would could have some priority registration |
| 02:57.56 | Xinhuan | we can probably hack it better |
| 02:58.03 | ckknight | where you attach a priority with a color |
| 02:58.17 | Shefki | Well I was thinking of doing arbitrary highlights as just filters. |
| 02:58.23 | ckknight | Note: I want somehow to have multiple modules highlight, not just Aura |
| 02:58.27 | Shefki | A highlight mod would register a filter. |
| 02:58.39 | Shefki | And always return true, but it'd find out what auras were on the unit that way. |
| 02:58.41 | ckknight | and having a proper API for setting a highlight |
| 02:59.02 | Shefki | Then they could set whatever indicator they wanted on the ones they wanted to highlight. |
| 02:59.33 | Shefki | I sorta ran into this priority issue with my Brutallus mod for PB3. |
| 02:59.47 | Shefki | It turned the healthbar colors based on the burn and slash debuffs. |
| 02:59.54 | Shefki | Which of course caused fights with Banzai. |
| 02:59.56 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:00.00 | Repo | * Fix the Feign Death support once and for all (hopefully - are there any other |
| 03:00.02 | Repo | buffs that use the same icon as FD?) |
| 03:00.05 | Repo | * Made the restore delay configurable, per request. |
| 03:00.06 | ckknight | Shefki: yea |
| 03:00.20 | ckknight | Shefki: note: I'm not against pulsation. |
| 03:00.25 | thul | ckknight: well, curls i never dig :/ but the body was ok :-P |
| 03:00.30 | ckknight | Shefki: if you have two which conflict, pulsate between the two |
| 03:00.40 | ckknight | thul: I love curls on a redhead |
| 03:00.57 | Shefki | So the aggro indicator would flash on when Brut turned to the target, then my debuff would turn on, then he'd turn away and it'd go back to normal color and my debuff would flash back on. |
| 03:01.03 | Repo | 10track-o-matique: 03Anyia3 042.5 * r50 : Tagging as 2.5 - now won't break FD |
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| 03:01.12 | Shefki | Which seemed kinda silly but once you knew how it behaved it didn't matter. |
| 03:01.34 | ckknight | hmm |
| 03:01.43 | Xinhuan | could also be messy to have 25 flashing indicators |
| 03:01.45 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 03:01.54 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:02.03 | ckknight | which is why a prioritization also has to take place |
| 03:02.06 | Xinhuan | especially if they all flash out of sync |
| 03:02.10 | Xinhuan | it'll look funny haha |
| 03:02.16 | Shefki | But in order to efficiently allow mods to handle auras, I need to have a callback when I'm walking the auras for a unit. |
| 03:02.16 | sztanpet | thats why just ditch the whole raid module |
| 03:02.38 | ckknight | Shefki: just do it, |
| 03:02.59 | ckknight | you can refactor later. |
| 03:02.59 | thul | ckknight: hmm, I'm not sure, maybe on redheads. |
| 03:03.03 | Xinhuan | (note ace3 CBH callbacks are expensive) |
| 03:03.04 | Shefki | And I'm thinking that we combine that callback into the filter implementation. |
| 03:03.24 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Wasn't planning on using CBH |
| 03:03.29 | ckknight | Xinhuan: cause it does a bunch of crazy extra shit |
| 03:03.33 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 03:03.40 | Xinhuan | if i need speed, i wouldn't use cbh |
| 03:03.46 | Shefki | I was just planning on making a new mod type aura_filters. |
| 03:03.47 | Xinhuan | general purpose is fine though |
| 03:04.02 | Shefki | Then walking the mods of type aura_filters and calling the function name I defined. |
| 03:04.05 | Xinhuan | the extra shit is only so that you have a full stack trace though |
| 03:04.06 | Shefki | There'd be 3 functions. |
| 03:04.16 | Shefki | Names don't mean anything yet but... |
| 03:04.20 | Shefki | aura_filter_unit_start |
| 03:04.28 | Shefki | aura_filter_entry |
| 03:04.32 | Shefki | aura_filter_unit_stop |
| 03:04.42 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r9 tomQuest2.toc: use @project-revision@ |
| 03:04.44 | Shefki | unit_start gets called when starting to walk auras on a unit. |
| 03:04.46 | Repo | 10fubar_instanceinfofu: 03kunda * r44 / (3 files in 3 directories): FuBar_InstanceInfoFu:: |
| 03:04.48 | Repo | - set max player level to 80 (default setting is still 70) |
| 03:04.49 | Shefki | entry for each aura entry |
| 03:04.51 | Repo | - added difficulty (for heroic instances) |
| 03:04.54 | Repo | - deDE update |
| 03:04.57 | Shefki | unit_stop when we stop walking that unit. |
| 03:05.19 | Shefki | A filter could detect the absense of a aura by seeing that between unit_start and unit_stop it never saw it. |
| 03:05.34 | Shefki | so in start it would clear the state variables, |
| 03:05.52 | Skellum | Grrrr |
| 03:05.54 | Shefki | entry it'd watch for whatever it needed to watch for setting it's state variables. |
| 03:05.59 | Skellum | Make my parts come sooner from newegg! |
| 03:06.01 | Shefki | And then in stop it would do the display. |
| 03:06.56 | Xinhuan | can you give an "example filter" |
| 03:07.15 | Shefki | Sure. Let's pretend I wanted to implement the Kalecogs curse filter. |
| 03:07.38 | Xinhuan | what would this filter be required to do? return true only for that specific curse, and only on 20 seconds and less left? |
| 03:08.03 | Shefki | Pretty much yeah. |
| 03:08.24 | Shefki | It'd have to make a table of units with that curse and create timers to force that unit to update when it should dispaly. |
| 03:08.28 | Shefki | display* |
| 03:08.34 | Xinhuan | note that UnitAura("That specific curse") is sufficient to tell you instantly in one function call, if that curse exists on a unit |
| 03:08.46 | Xinhuan | and the return args will have the remaining time on it |
| 03:09.00 | Xinhuan | instead of walking thru all auras |
| 03:09.23 | Shefki | Yeah that works now. But I still need a way to tell aura what to display or not. |
| 03:09.38 | Shefki | And I've already got the information it needs. |
| 03:09.50 | Shefki | And UnitAura("That specific curse") just causes the game to do the walk for you. |
| 03:10.04 | Xinhuan | and it walks it probably 20x faster than you can do it in lua |
| 03:10.13 | Xinhuan | anyway my point here is walking thru all auras isn't the best way for this particular filter |
| 03:10.35 | Shefki | Sure but why walk again at all when I already have the info I need? |
| 03:12.27 | Xinhuan | there isn't any walking per-se if its 20x faster |
| 03:13.51 | onaforeignshore | http://www.wowace.com/projects/guilder/ - any comments are welcome |
| 03:14.12 | doom0r | Were sorry, youve attempted to access a page that youre not allowed to access. |
| 03:14.12 | doom0r | If you find this message to be in error please notify the administrators. |
| 03:14.20 | doom0r | yes, make it public |
| 03:14.32 | Shefki | Probably not approved yet. |
| 03:14.36 | ckknight | not approved yet |
| 03:14.40 | ckknight | I should make it so people can see it |
| 03:14.44 | doom0r | same difference to me ;x |
| 03:14.51 | doom0r | just make registered see maybe? |
| 03:16.30 | ckknight | I think the message of "This project needs approval" is sufficient enough |
| 03:16.38 | ckknight | doom0r: try again |
| 03:17.08 | doom0r | works |
| 03:17.26 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231038288384.jpg <-this was probably the most stupid thing someone could post on 4chan |
| 03:17.29 | doom0r | doesnt' show an approval message |
| 03:18.19 | Fisker- | level 40+ warrior with only battle stance, a shield, an ammo pouch and he decides to post it on /b/ |
| 03:19.07 | doom0r | LOL |
| 03:19.10 | doom0r | only battle stance |
| 03:19.35 | ckknight | doom0r: hrm, okay |
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| 03:19.52 | Xinhuan | This project is awaiting approval |
| 03:19.52 | Xinhuan | Our administrators will be reviewing your project any minute now. |
| 03:20.10 | Xinhuan | "any minute now" is probably an exegeration hehe |
| 03:20.11 | Aiiane | it lies |
| 03:20.11 | Shefki | Well at any rate I know I'm doing the class filters for PB4 entirely different. |
| 03:20.15 | Torhal | Xinhuan: I didn't see that message when I looked. |
| 03:20.21 | Shefki | The design for PB4 sucked. Having to manually update them. |
| 03:20.45 | Xinhuan | doesn't class filters work by calling UnitAura() with the "RAID" filter? |
| 03:20.57 | Xinhuan | you don't even have to do anything special Shefki |
| 03:21.01 | Aiiane | s/PB4/PB3 @ Shefki |
| 03:21.19 | Aiiane | ? |
| 03:21.19 | Xinhuan | it will return the set of buffs/debuffs that your class can cast/decurse |
| 03:21.52 | Shefki | Isn't that filter pretty broken? |
| 03:21.55 | Xinhuan | no |
| 03:22.01 | Xinhuan | it works exactly like i described |
| 03:22.18 | Xinhuan | you're probably thinking of a different filter |
| 03:22.23 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1302 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Keena's location wheee |
| 03:22.33 | Xinhuan | like "BUFF" or "PLAYER" |
| 03:22.34 | Shefki | Well PB3 had it's own filter mechanism. |
| 03:22.41 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 04v1.0B12.2 * r1303 : Tagging |
| 03:22.55 | Xinhuan | "PLAYER" filter would be buffs/debuffs that YOU casted |
| 03:23.02 | Xinhuan | and not "you can cast" |
| 03:23.12 | Xinhuan | big difference there |
| 03:23.17 | doom0r | We're sorry, you've attempted to access a page that decided to jump off its flying mount high over shattrath and forgot to bubble. |
| 03:23.54 | ckknight | doom0r: eep |
| 03:23.59 | doom0r | should be Shattrath |
| 03:24.02 | doom0r | ;x |
| 03:24.17 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 03:24.32 | ckknight | I think the 500 message is kinda unwarranted now anyway |
| 03:25.42 | doom0r | ...that got blast waved while AFK in the air? |
| 03:26.01 | ckknight | fixed now, btw |
| 03:26.17 | doom0r | This means that this project might be not quality enough for this site and may not be available forever. |
| 03:26.20 | doom0r | seems a little harsh |
| 03:26.28 | doom0r | considering approval is required |
| 03:26.50 | doom0r | imho |
| 03:28.25 | Xinhuan | ckknight, does that mean people can download alphas and see the repo contents now before approval? |
| 03:28.37 | ckknight | people could always see repo contents |
| 03:28.48 | ckknight | I don't think that they can download alphas, though |
| 03:29.00 | onaforeignshore | "This means that this project may not meet this site's standards and may only be available for a short time." sounds less harsh :p |
| 03:29.01 | ckknight | no, those have to be approved |
| 03:29.10 | Xinhuan | any chance you can add a link somewhere to approve the project in that sidebar |
| 03:29.15 | Xinhuan | without going to the approval page |
| 03:29.17 | Repo | 10fubar_groupfu: 037destiny * r134 GroupFuLocal-koKR.lua: FuBar_GroupFu: koKR Update |
| 03:29.33 | ckknight | Xinhuan: file a ticket. |
| 03:29.34 | ckknight | I'll do it |
| 03:29.46 | Xinhuan | file under where |
| 03:29.59 | doom0r | standards on soemthing that requires approval by default doesn't make sense no matter how you word it |
| 03:30.07 | doom0r | it's not "under review" |
| 03:30.12 | doom0r | it has "yet to be reviewed" |
| 03:30.39 | ckknight | Xinhuan: under curseforge's project |
| 03:30.46 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 03:31.26 | doom0r | time for coffee |
| 03:31.33 | Xinhuan | @project curseforge |
| 03:31.34 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/. CurseForge.com. Kaelten (Manager/Author), ckknight (Author), Ackis (Ticket Manager). Updated: 264 days ago. Tickets: 218/1011 |
| 03:33.37 | onaforeignshore | so then: If this project isn't approved it will be removed from the site. ??? |
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| 03:34.50 | onaforeignshore | need a restart... brb |
| 03:36.12 | ckknight | what? we'll remove it from the site if it's not approved |
| 03:37.50 | fewyn | sigh are there any decent non-complicated dkp trackers that aren't eqdkp? this is turning to be more of a pita than anything |
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| 03:46.33 | Xinhuan | hey onaforeignshore |
| 03:46.39 | Xinhuan | your description is a bit funny |
| 03:46.45 | Xinhuan | * 2/3 online - only total |
| 03:46.45 | Xinhuan | * 3 officers - online / total |
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| 03:47.40 | onaforeignshore | my first bug fix lol... ta |
| 03:49.44 | ckknight | hey |
| 03:49.50 | ckknight | someone Rule 34 the Joker for me |
| 03:49.51 | ckknight | kthx |
| 03:50.24 | ckknight | failing that, Rule 35 |
| 03:52.22 | Shefki | Xinhuan: As convenient as those filters are they are very limited compared to what we already have in PB3. |
| 03:53.17 | ckknight | (I'm adding Localization to PB4 now, btw, Shefki) |
| 03:53.26 | Shefki | k |
| 03:53.48 | ckknight | I'm being thorough, so it's taking a while |
| 03:53.50 | Shefki | How's group stuff coming, the party stuff still needs some work the last time I pulled too. |
| 03:53.53 | Xinhuan | yes, but you should still be aware of what is available from default UI so that you know all the possibiltiies |
| 03:54.19 | ckknight | Shefki: it's dependent on me getting config mode done, which I'm almost done with |
| 03:54.51 | Shefki | Ahh |
| 03:54.51 | Yssaril | anyone know of a addon that replaces the vendor frame with something better searchable maybe scrollable ? |
| 03:55.22 | onaforeignshore | "Our administrators will be reviewing your project any minute now." should be read as "Our administrators will be reviewing your project when they feel like it." :p |
| 03:55.45 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: yea, probably. |
| 03:56.10 | Shefki | sztanpet: What did you mean by an enrage filter? |
| 03:56.31 | sztanpet | simple buffs which you can dispell with tranq shot |
| 03:56.47 | sztanpet | a hilight for those would be much appreciated |
| 03:57.01 | Shefki | Is there a decent way to detect that or do we have to find them and collect them? |
| 03:57.03 | sztanpet | they are classified as enrage type buffs |
| 03:57.21 | Shefki | I thought that was Frenzy and Enrage was when the boss kills everyone now? |
| 03:58.25 | Shefki | Something out in the world that does that, which I can test with? |
| 03:58.44 | sztanpet | a warrior with berserker rage |
| 03:59.49 | Shefki | Something other than a player? |
| 03:59.51 | sztanpet | no idea |
| 04:00.04 | quiescens | um |
| 04:00.13 | Shefki | I'll make a note of it. |
| 04:00.18 | quiescens | they thingy |
| 04:00.19 | sztanpet | thanks |
| 04:00.26 | quiescens | made it more consistent |
| 04:00.45 | quiescens | berserk is the ones where the boss goes and wipes everything |
| 04:00.48 | doom0r | ewww ckk, ewww |
| 04:00.55 | ckknight | ? |
| 04:01.00 | Shefki | quiescens: That's what I was thinking. |
| 04:01.01 | ckknight | eww to you. |
| 04:01.02 | doom0r | -21:49:50- [@ckknight]: someone Rule 34 the Joker for me |
| 04:01.07 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:01.15 | Shefki | Ahh so he's right it's enrage and the bosses beserk on a timer. |
| 04:01.17 | Shefki | ok |
| 04:01.19 | quiescens | enrage is the periodic or intentional ones that can happen as part of the timer |
| 04:01.22 | quiescens | er |
| 04:01.26 | quiescens | part of the encounter |
| 04:01.40 | Shefki | k |
| 04:01.48 | quiescens | frenzy I think is the "boss in on low HP" type enrages |
| 04:02.07 | sztanpet | nah, thats enrage too but not dispellable |
| 04:02.14 | sztanpet | usually |
| 04:02.42 | sztanpet | the tooltip saying its an enrage type only shows when i can dispell it ofcourse |
| 04:02.50 | Shefki | Well I need a decent way to detect this without having to make a list of every debuff. |
| 04:03.01 | Shefki | Ahh ok. |
| 04:03.04 | sztanpet | but im trying to find a spell that shows this on wowhead and cant find any |
| 04:03.10 | quiescens | like, if you go to wowhead and look at patchwerk |
| 04:03.27 | quiescens | the user content calls it an enrage, but that's players calling it whatever |
| 04:03.30 | quiescens | if you go to abilities |
| 04:03.43 | quiescens | you see berserk as the 6 minute thing |
| 04:03.47 | quiescens | and frenzy as the 5% thing |
| 04:04.01 | Shefki | So digging around... |
| 04:04.31 | quiescens | its just players that are still calling it an enrage at 5% |
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| 04:04.31 | Shefki | Enrage = Attack Power and Speed Increased. |
| 04:04.31 | Shefki | Frenzy = Speed Increase. |
| 04:04.32 | Shefki | Beserk = Aren't you dead yet? |
| 04:04.42 | sztanpet | yea |
| 04:04.53 | quiescens | frenzy effects can still increase damage done |
| 04:05.42 | sztanpet | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54356 this is dispellable too |
| 04:05.44 | quiescens | berserk = dps race type timers, enrage = dispellable and part of the encounter, frenzy = unremovable last ditch effect |
| 04:05.46 | sztanpet | doesnt show shot |
| 04:05.48 | sztanpet | shit |
| 04:06.55 | quiescens | all the removable ones should say enrage |
| 04:07.00 | quiescens | although that probably doesn't mean that everything that says enrage can be removed |
| 04:07.07 | quiescens | knowing blizzard |
| 04:07.23 | sztanpet | yes but wowhead should show the dispell type as enrage |
| 04:07.32 | sztanpet | thats my problem |
| 04:08.10 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 04:08.21 | sztanpet | thats probably what Shefki would need |
| 04:08.30 | Shefki | Doesn't seem like it does. |
| 04:08.47 | Shefki | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15932#abilities |
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| 04:09.07 | Shefki | Neither of the two Enrages have the dispel type set to Enrage |
| 04:09.15 | sztanpet | yea :( |
| 04:09.25 | sztanpet | any way to print out some info of this ingame? |
| 04:09.45 | Shefki | UnitAura |
| 04:09.45 | quiescens | the text up the top is again just player content? |
| 04:09.46 | quiescens | the enrages are removable though? |
| 04:10.01 | quiescens | it seems like all the removable ones say enrage |
| 04:10.03 | Shefki | They're removable. |
| 04:10.16 | Shefki | But if you click through on them you'll get to the page just for the buff. |
| 04:10.23 | Shefki | There's a line that says Dispel type |
| 04:10.28 | Shefki | And it's set to n/a on that. |
| 04:10.35 | Shefki | Which wowhead should have from data mining. |
| 04:10.35 | quiescens | imo just look for debuffs that say enrage |
| 04:10.37 | quiescens | lol |
| 04:10.43 | Shefki | Which would be how UnitAura would say. |
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| 04:12.32 | Shefki | It's possible those Enrages abiities aren't the right ones either. |
| 04:12.41 | Shefki | They may be old data from Naxx40. |
| 04:12.51 | quiescens | nah, they seem correct |
| 04:13.10 | quiescens | and it used to be um |
| 04:13.19 | quiescens | called frenzy, in nax40 |
| 04:13.25 | quiescens | if I remember correctly |
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| 04:13.46 | quiescens | they renamed things to be more consistent in wotlk |
| 04:14.10 | quiescens | so that enrages are removable, frenzys are part of the encounter, and berserks are "you were too slow" |
| 04:14.45 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.03.14 beta * r729 : Tagging as v3.00.03.14 beta |
| 04:14.53 | quiescens | second blue post on http://wow.curse.com/articles/wow-en-news/16642.aspx |
| 04:14.56 | quiescens | is what they said |
| 04:15.24 | sztanpet | yes yes, not the point |
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| 04:16.27 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 04:16.39 | quiescens | I thought all we were trying to do was find a way to check whether a buff was tranq-able |
| 04:16.52 | Shefki | The question is does the buff on the mob show as dispeltype Enrage |
| 04:16.52 | sztanpet | yes but not from the name |
| 04:16.56 | sztanpet | there are lots of enrages out there that arent dispellable and we need a way to identify them, the ingame tooltip does shot them as enrages but wowhead doesnt |
| 04:16.57 | Shefki | If it is then what he wants is trivial to do. |
| 04:17.11 | doom0r | gives Parnic a box of cookies. |
| 04:17.25 | Shefki | If not then we'd have to make a list of every one that can be removed. |
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| 04:17.37 | Shefki | However, this is complicated by the fact that a lot of them share the same name. |
| 04:17.46 | quiescens | do you actually know any enrage that isn't removable? |
| 04:19.22 | Shefki | Well what about Enrage the Druid ability? |
| 04:19.25 | sztanpet | im sure there are, if you would say if this enrage of mob X is dispellable or not, i would be able to answer with a yes or no, but i dont remember them |
| 04:19.32 | Shefki | "Enrage", "", "Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Druid_Enrage", 0, nil, 10, 15273.618, 1, nil |
| 04:19.44 | Shefki | has no dispell type. |
| 04:19.47 | Shefki | And it's called Enrage. |
| 04:19.57 | Shefki | But I'm not sure if it's intended to be dispellable. |
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| 04:20.28 | Lukian | it's not intended to be dispellable |
| 04:20.43 | quiescens | has anyone actually tried it though? |
| 04:20.47 | Shefki | So right there would be an example of a buff named Enrage that you can't remove. |
| 04:21.00 | Shefki | Let me get my GF to try removing it with her Hunter. |
| 04:21.18 | Lukian | there's little point removing a druid's enrage : |
| 04:21.22 | sztanpet | it will say there is nothing to dispell |
| 04:22.09 | sztanpet | warriors on the other hand, it might not be berserker rage but the enrage they get after someone crits them |
| 04:23.56 | sztanpet | yes, confirmed |
| 04:24.51 | sztanpet | now how do get the info |
| 04:24.58 | quiescens | shrugs |
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| 04:26.39 | ckknight | now we see if it works... |
| 04:27.07 | quiescens | I doubt blizzard was that specific |
| 04:27.30 | quiescens | knowing blizzard the druid enrage thing was just a stupid oversight |
| 04:28.04 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.28 | Shefki | Will print the name and dispel type of all the buffs on your current target. |
| 04:28.39 | sztanpet | thanks |
| 04:28.53 | Shefki | Make that: /run for i = 1, 40 do local name, _, _, _,dtype = UnitBuff("target",i); if name then print(name.." = "..tostring(dtype)) end end |
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| 04:32.33 | ckknight | Shefki: 40's no longer the limit :-P |
| 04:33.04 | Shefki | ckknight: I know. :) |
| 04:33.16 | Skellum | thank fucking christ they changed that |
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| 04:35.04 | sztanpet | and i check if dtype is non-nil but yea thanks, lemme go and see if i can find someone |
| 04:35.42 | sztanpet | 6am here :( |
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| 04:37.06 | doom0r | i wonder how long this dk will get away with the name: Puzyjoozcktl |
| 04:37.21 | robotusch | I lol'd |
| 04:37.25 | ckknight | I don't get it |
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| 04:38.08 | quiescens | most of the npc ones are literally called enrage by the looks of it, hunger for blood and the two warrior ones count as an enrage effect if you want to use a player to test it |
| 04:38.22 | quiescens | but I take it you would like a world non elite mob that enrages |
| 04:38.23 | quiescens | ideally |
| 04:39.58 | ckknight | don't unbork the packager, I'm fixing it. |
| 04:40.04 | doom0r | the normal low hp enrage that world+dog has now? |
| 04:40.12 | quiescens | no |
| 04:40.36 | quiescens | they're looking for removable enrages, for tranq shot and anaesthetic poison |
| 04:40.54 | doom0r | o, so you just need seomthign that does that for a test case |
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| 04:50.02 | doom0r | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=16878#abilities |
| 04:50.44 | quiescens | I doubt they list an actual dispel type anyway |
| 04:51.25 | doom0r | no, they dont' |
| 04:51.31 | doom0r | i checked thott's mechanics section |
| 04:51.39 | doom0r | has no data linked to the mechanic |
| 04:51.57 | doom0r | but that's a mob that should be testable |
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| 04:55.52 | quiescens | I'm pretty sure the only indication is that the effects are called enrage, for npcs |
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| 05:18.31 | onaforeignshore | it's 05:20am... time for bed maybe? lol |
| 05:18.41 | onaforeignshore | later everyone |
| 05:21.32 | doom0r | sounds like lunchtime to me |
| 05:28.35 | doom0r | a 74+ paladin bubble hearthing away from a 64 rogue is ROFFLE |
| 05:29.05 | doom0r | flexes |
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| 05:46.33 | ckknight | I need to go to the store tomorrow. |
| 05:46.35 | ckknight | someone remind me. |
| 05:46.44 | ckknight | in like ... 12 hours |
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| 05:50.04 | Zyndrome | the hardware stooooooore |
| 05:55.05 | Aeyan | Matching salt and pepper shakers |
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| 05:59.24 | Megalon | Zyndrome: yea ,D |
| 06:00.04 | ckknight | I need food, mostly |
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| 06:02.03 | ckknight | hmm |
| 06:02.23 | ckknight | should PitBull4 module names be Title Case or Sentence case? |
| 06:03.29 | ckknight | I think I'm gonna go Sentence case, it looks nicer in the panel |
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| 06:09.54 | p3lim | anyone know how much rep there is from the quests with Knights of the Ebon Blade in total? (excluding dailies) |
| 06:10.42 | sztanpet | quite a lot, two days of doing dailies and i hit revered |
| 06:11.38 | Zyndrome | http://www.wowhead.com/?faction=1098#quests |
| 06:12.25 | p3lim | Zyndrome: yeah, there is no filter for dailies |
| 06:12.27 | doom0r | sentence, each word is overload in an options window |
| 06:15.10 | Zyndrome | p3lim , http://www.wowhead.com/?quests&filter=da=ja;cr=1;crs=1098;crv=0 |
| 06:15.49 | p3lim | Zyndrome: filtering them away i meant |
| 06:16.02 | Zyndrome | mhm |
| 06:27.04 | quiescens | shadowmeld was strong enough without being usable in combat imo |
| 06:27.50 | quiescens | nerf all elves |
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| 06:37.11 | p3lim | you could use it to hide while eating |
| 06:37.17 | p3lim | now it breaks it |
| 06:37.23 | p3lim | and it has a cooldown of 2 min |
| 06:40.57 | quiescens | the eat/drink and then shadowmeld thing is minor compared to the gains from the new one |
| 06:41.35 | quiescens | a rogue can shadowmeld and then press stealth |
| 06:42.22 | quiescens | you can technically shadowmeld in a fight and then drink which would give you the drinking mana regen until you get hit by aoe or whatever |
| 06:42.38 | Skellum | Shadowmeld+flight form. |
| 06:42.50 | Skellum | instant combat escape. |
| 06:42.51 | quiescens | shadowmeld res against everything except raid bosses |
| 06:43.09 | Skellum | It and the human racial need...fixing. |
| 06:43.14 | quiescens | shadowmeld, change equipment |
| 06:43.21 | quiescens | during a fight |
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| 06:45.57 | quiescens | human one isn't that bad |
| 06:46.10 | quiescens | its just a strong ability |
| 06:46.12 | Skellum | Human one is a massive PvP advantage |
| 06:46.16 | quiescens | the shadowmeld bit |
| 06:46.23 | quiescens | breaks certain class mechanics |
| 06:46.50 | Skellum | I see what you're sayign. |
| 06:46.50 | quiescens | as a result of being a combat drop |
| 06:46.50 | Skellum | I'd still like to see both of them "fixed" |
| 06:46.59 | quiescens | well yeah, the human one is very powerful |
| 06:47.10 | quiescens | but even if shadowmeld was mostly useless |
| 06:47.20 | quiescens | it would be worth fixing just because it can break things |
| 06:50.51 | Zao | detect invis and dots was mighty handy against rogues when I was human. |
| 06:51.07 | Mikk | erm detect invis doesnt see stealth? |
| 06:51.14 | quiescens | never has |
| 06:51.14 | Mikk | stealth != invis |
| 06:51.34 | Mikk | oh you mean the human racial - perception |
| 06:51.45 | Mikk | that's increased stealth detection, so yeah, would obviously work |
| 06:51.49 | Zao | Wasn't that the one you referred to there by Human racial? |
| 06:52.11 | quiescens | the other human racial |
| 06:52.20 | quiescens | is the pvp trinket effect |
| 06:52.41 | Mikk | Not to mention the third human racial. Needs a nerf right off just because noone else has 3. |
| 06:53.04 | Codayus | It's good being a human these days. |
| 06:53.15 | Zyndrome | reason why Humans have more racials : http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59005 |
| 06:53.30 | Zyndrome | (was in the beta) |
| 06:53.49 | Zyndrome | or maybe it was PTR .. bleh, tired |
| 06:53.57 | Codayus | Heh |
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| 06:54.37 | Codayus | Although actually, I think they've done a pretty good job of (finally) balancing racials. |
| 06:58.20 | quiescens | Shadowmeld should just do a threat drop plus stealth effect without the combat drop |
| 06:58.31 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 06:58.57 | Mikk | noes dont take my feign death away :S |
| 06:59.32 | Zyndrome | no thanks, else we have no reason to not corpserun on wipe-calls |
| 07:00.41 | quiescens | nerf all elves~ |
| 07:01.42 | quiescens | I don't even care about that per se |
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| 07:02.20 | quiescens | just the ability to do out of combat stuff |
| 07:14.35 | doom0r | you play horde? |
| 07:15.29 | quiescens | its a general sentiment, nerf blood elves too just because they're elves |
| 07:15.31 | Skellum | Fix the Forsaken Racials :p |
| 07:15.45 | Skellum | Namely the one they gave to every person in the game |
| 07:16.01 | doom0r | as ally, shadowmeld is phenomenal, it's a wipe saver |
| 07:16.25 | quiescens | I don't much care about using it to drop combat for a wipe |
| 07:16.32 | quiescens | I imagine that was the intention of the combat drop |
| 07:16.59 | quiescens | the issue is that a mechanic like that also means people can use it to drink, res while the fight is still going, flight form, restealth |
| 07:17.25 | doom0r | i thought if you get in combat, that regen doesn't work from food/drink |
| 07:17.30 | quiescens | the drinking does |
| 07:17.36 | quiescens | food doesn't |
| 07:17.54 | doom0r | i would consider that a bug imo |
| 07:18.17 | quiescens | or changing gear half way through a fight |
| 07:18.33 | quiescens | oh hey I've finished off tanking this mob, I'll change into dps gear |
| 07:19.09 | quiescens | probably many other things that people have done that most people won't think of |
| 07:21.00 | quiescens | knowing blizzard, if they don't change it, you'll probably be able to respec during a fight once they put in the dual talent builds thing |
| 07:22.16 | doom0r | they could just make a cast tiem for that |
| 07:22.38 | Aiiane | food effect ends in combat because all health natural health regen ends in combat |
| 07:22.45 | Aiiane | mana regen doesn't because natural regen continues in combat |
| 07:22.56 | Aiiane | food/water just boost natural regen |
| 07:24.01 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): - fixed a bug in the enUS locale |
| 07:24.02 | Aiiane | getting *hit* breaks the actual eating/drinking effects, which stops either |
| 07:26.27 | Skellum | taps aii breaking her natural mana regen |
| 07:26.34 | Aiiane | o_o |
| 07:26.42 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 9406b63 / (27 files in 27 directories): [+1 commit] localize all modules. |
| 07:28.20 | quiescens | quite a loaded emote |
| 07:30.04 | Skellum | Psh...if you think thats loaded... |
| 07:36.41 | ckknight | anyone have any good ideas for a new poll? |
| 07:37.02 | robotusch | When will 3.0.8 finally be out so I can get started on my old world rep grind :< |
| 07:37.12 | ckknight | nah, something funny |
| 07:39.53 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik 04v3.0-14 * r14 : Tagging as v3.0-14 |
| 07:40.31 | ckknight | Shefki: you there? |
| 07:41.02 | Zyndrome | "In what way are the breadcrumbles in Richard Stallmans beard related to Volkswagen minibusses?" |
| 07:41.05 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 07:41.55 | doom0r | both are stuck in the 60s |
| 07:41.56 | doom0r | next |
| 07:41.56 | Aiiane | ckknight: favorite classic cartoon? |
| 07:41.57 | ckknight | that might be cool |
| 07:42.08 | ckknight | what do we mean by classic? |
| 07:42.40 | doom0r | If no one had to know.... Gnome or Draenei |
| 07:42.49 | Aiiane | like, prior to the web generation? |
| 07:43.15 | doom0r | like hannah barbara (sp?) had half of saturday's tv? |
| 07:43.18 | pastamancer | steamboat willie you bastards! |
| 07:43.26 | ckknight | okay, gimme some examples |
| 07:43.31 | ckknight | I'm going with the idea |
| 07:43.49 | Aiiane | Peanuts |
| 07:43.54 | Zyndrome | Swat Kats |
| 07:44.53 | Zyndrome | Dino Riders |
| 07:45.03 | doom0r | how about best Hanna-Barbera cartoon, list wouldn't be super huge compared to classic cartoon, although optional might generate stuff you don't know |
| 07:45.22 | doom0r | well, i guess HB would be long |
| 07:45.58 | ckknight | The Jetsons |
| 07:46.00 | doom0r | too many options for a poll |
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| 07:46.31 | ckknight | The Flintstones |
| 07:46.55 | Zyndrome | 'Favorite Cartoon Era' ? :< |
| 07:46.55 | Skellum | Scooby Doo and the Thirteen Ghosts |
| 07:46.55 | Skellum | Because it had vincent price in it |
| 07:46.58 | ckknight | Scooby Doo |
| 07:46.59 | ckknight | :-P |
| 07:47.01 | doom0r | no no no |
| 07:47.03 | doom0r | where are you |
| 07:47.09 | ckknight | Zyndrome: nah, people will just do the one they grew up in |
| 07:47.09 | doom0r | thirteen was horrible |
| 07:47.31 | Skellum | It had VINCENT PRICE! |
| 07:47.31 | ckknight | psh |
| 07:47.32 | doom0r | actually, i wouldn't |
| 07:47.34 | ckknight | thirteen's hot |
| 07:47.34 | Skellum | Of course it was good. |
| 07:47.34 | ckknight | http://www.hiddenplace.org/blog/300px-House-Thirteen.jpg |
| 07:47.57 | ckknight | actually not really, too thin for me |
| 07:48.21 | Skellum | depends on how kinky she is |
| 07:48.43 | doom0r | i thought you meant http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328538/ when you said thirteen was hot ;x |
| 07:49.32 | ckknight | I gave a picture. |
| 07:49.44 | ckknight | Josie and the Pussycats |
| 07:49.56 | ckknight | Looney Tunes |
| 07:50.05 | ckknight | Super Friends |
| 07:50.10 | ckknight | Tom and Jerry |
| 07:50.34 | ckknight | Batman |
| 07:50.36 | Skellum | whats that actor with the |
| 07:50.40 | Skellum | 90s batman! |
| 07:50.43 | Skellum | That was the shit |
| 07:51.00 | Megalon | Samurai Pizza Cats |
| 07:51.18 | ckknight | Jonny Quest |
| 07:51.26 | Zyndrome | 2 Stupid Dogs |
| 07:51.39 | ckknight | Zyndrome: nah, that's 90's |
| 07:51.52 | ckknight | alright, I got a good list |
| 07:51.54 | Skellum | the new adventures of Johnny quest. |
| 07:51.58 | Zyndrome | The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest (19961997, Cartoon Network/TBS/TNT) |
| 07:52.01 | Zyndrome | flees |
| 07:52.01 | Megalon | captain n: the game master! |
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| 07:52.04 | doom0r | most of that list is HB |
| 07:52.06 | Skellum | :D |
| 07:52.11 | ckknight | s |
| 07:52.14 | Skellum | Super mario Power hour! |
| 07:52.14 | ckknight | doom0r: ...so? |
| 07:52.22 | Zyndrome | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna-Barbera#1950s |
| 07:52.26 | doom0r | it shows |
| 07:52.30 | doom0r | they were phenomenal |
| 07:52.34 | Skellum | The Animaniacs. |
| 07:52.38 | Skellum | The Tick |
| 07:52.55 | ckknight | ooh, those are good |
| 07:52.59 | ckknight | I <3 The Tick |
| 07:53.02 | doom0r | Duckman |
| 07:53.08 | ckknight | another good |
| 07:53.09 | ckknight | on |
| 07:53.10 | Skellum | Runs around in his underwear Freakazoid, Freakazoid~ |
| 07:53.10 | Megalon | dexter's laboratory |
| 07:53.10 | ckknight | one* |
| 07:53.24 | Skellum | Hes here to save the nation, so stay tuned to this station! |
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| 09:42.49 | *** topic/#wowace is Happy Festivus! | http://www.wowace.com | http://paste.wowace.com/ | http://www.lua.org | http://www.wowace.com/a/author-rewards-program-launching-soon/ | New .15 Mac Build! http://static.curseforge.net/client/Curse%20Client%20Setup%202.0.0.15.dmg || CC Window Test Build 2.0.1.0.RC1 http://tinyurl.com/5l6cfz | Username changes: http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 09:42.51 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 85792a7 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add options to change the x/y positions of units. |
| 09:43.02 | ckknight | Shefki: I did it all for you ^-- |
| 09:45.21 | doom0r | if only that read elements :x |
| 09:47.41 | ckknight | elements? |
| 09:48.04 | doom0r | elements of the frames |
| 09:48.47 | ckknight | oh |
| 09:51.46 | Fisker- | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:51.51 | ckknight | no, Fisker- |
| 09:51.51 | ckknight | no |
| 09:51.58 | ckknight | you go back to the corner |
| 09:52.06 | ckknight | where you belong |
| 09:52.18 | Fisker- | :( |
| 09:52.38 | ckknight | :P |
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| 10:02.06 | ckknight | I know on my deathbed, I'll look back at my life and all the relationships I've had and I'll know that I should've worked more. |
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| 10:21.40 | thul | ckknight: but then it will be to late? :-P |
| 10:25.05 | EthanCentaurai | if you regret it now, then now's the time to make the change :D |
| 10:25.40 | EthanCentaurai | you're only 21 after all, you've still got the rest of your lifetime to make a difference |
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| 10:26.37 | doom0r | .... |
| 10:26.51 | doom0r | waits for someone to READ what ckk wrote |
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| 10:29.33 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r717 AceDB-3.0/AceDB-3.0.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 10:29.36 | Repo | AceDB-3.0: |
| 10:29.39 | Repo | Implement OnProfileShutdown callback |
| 10:29.42 | Repo | The OPS callback will fire right before the active profile is changed and before the defaults are stripped. Its meant to be used to store data in the DB that is usually kept in internal data structures but needs to be exported into the SV. |
| 10:29.44 | Repo | This is the profile-equivalent to OnDatabaseShutdown, however on logout, only OnDatabaseShutdown will fire, not both. |
| 10:29.52 | EthanCentaurai | obviously read it differently to how doom0r read it... |
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| 10:30.21 | ckknight | :P |
| 10:31.10 | EthanCentaurai | meh, brb fetching breakfast |
| 10:31.21 | ckknight | doom0r: *shrug* |
| 10:31.21 | ckknight | oh well |
| 10:31.23 | nevcairiel | breakfast is a good idea |
| 10:32.57 | nevcairiel | maybe wowace gets back from its break while i eat |
| 10:38.05 | EthanCentaurai | re-reads the message, now armed with a lemon-curd-on-toast induced mind |
| 10:39.33 | doom0r | that's just so wrong |
| 10:39.33 | EthanCentaurai | yeah I read the "I should've worked more" bit as "I should've worked on my relationships more", rather than "I should've gone to the office more" :( |
| 10:40.01 | EthanCentaurai | what's wrong with lemon curd on toast? :P |
| 10:40.18 | doom0r | everything |
| 10:40.46 | EthanCentaurai | o rly? |
| 10:40.51 | doom0r | needs more bacon eggs and hash browns |
| 10:41.05 | EthanCentaurai | I'm a vegetarian >_> |
| 10:41.24 | doom0r | read: person with a severe iron deficiency |
| 10:41.41 | EthanCentaurai | hash browns are awesome sauce though :D |
| 10:45.20 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r718 AceTimer-3.0/AceTimer-3.0.lua: AceTimer-3.0: Implement :TimeLeft(handle) as of Ticket #10 |
| 10:46.02 | EthanCentaurai | what didst thou haveth for thy breakfast, Nev? :P |
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| 10:46.18 | nevcairiel | toast with cheese |
| 10:46.55 | doom0r | wonders when the famine will end |
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| 10:51.36 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:51.47 | Fisker- | kills nevcairiel in a sugar rush rage |
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| 10:52.29 | EthanCentaurai | would eat Fisker-'s brains for breakfast, but he would lose calories and IQ points |
| 10:53.27 | Fisker- | Only because consuming my genius mind would kill you |
| 10:53.59 | EthanCentaurai | you? a genius? HAHAHA!! xD |
| 10:54.07 | EthanCentaurai | it isn't showing :P |
| 11:04.48 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok 07unitguid * r1094 / (7 files in 1 directory): Integrated GridStatusReadyCheck into Grid distribution. |
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| 11:19.32 | doom0r | what's the point of the guid branch |
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| 11:19.50 | Fisker- | being fucking awesome |
| 11:20.09 | Fisker- | Also removing many library dependancies |
| 11:20.30 | Fisker- | shit like lib-roster, specialevents, etc. |
| 11:20.39 | Fisker- | So like fags can't name their pets the same as the maintank and redirect heals and shit |
| 11:20.40 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 11:20.46 | Repo | 10wishlist: 03XIU * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): Wishlist: |
| 11:20.49 | Repo | - Fixed AtlasLoot integration |
| 11:20.58 | doom0r | any drawbacks? |
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| 11:23.29 | pastamancer | nope |
| 11:23.35 | pastamancer | it's made of pure win |
| 11:24.14 | doom0r | so why isn't that main yet? |
| 11:24.21 | pastamancer | because it's not ready yet |
| 11:24.46 | pastamancer | biiiig changes internally |
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| 11:25.06 | pastamancer | gotta tidy up and make sure everything's happy |
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| 11:25.25 | digmouse | wowace is up or not? |
| 11:25.32 | pastamancer | I can't be releasing half-finished crap |
| 11:25.45 | doom0r | it's up |
| 11:25.57 | doom0r | you're waiting on mysql |
| 11:26.45 | digmouse | neat, he's up after several F5 |
| 11:27.42 | doom0r | it never went down |
| 11:28.10 | doom0r | you just have to wait for the db to stop pms'ing |
| 11:30.14 | digmouse | and does SharedMedia contain some good border texture? |
| 11:30.47 | pastamancer | oh that was fun... forgot to increment the loop index when scanning debuffs... tested it and got stuck in an endless loop |
| 11:31.15 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:31.32 | nevcairiel | usually it doesnt take too long until you get a stack overflow |
| 11:32.20 | pastamancer | it was just index = 1; while true do name, stuff = UnitAura(unit, index) if not name break end end |
| 11:32.48 | nevcairiel | oh well not enough stack increase |
| 11:32.52 | pastamancer | nah |
| 11:33.08 | Repo | 10o-uf_debuff-highlight: 03Ammo * r40 oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua: fix typo |
| 11:33.29 | nevcairiel | lua> while true do end |
| 11:33.34 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 11:33.40 | nevcairiel | well he knows better |
| 11:34.19 | pastamancer | crap, I can't use the level 9 scorpids outside org for testing now that my rogue is specced into unfair advantage :/ |
| 11:35.21 | SunTsu | pastamancer: Hehe, that even proccs on mounts, that's quite fun riding through low areas and one hitting the mobs attacking without having to unmount |
| 11:35.28 | doom0r | there's still 9 more classes :P |
| 11:37.05 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:37.10 | Fisker- | What are you going to do about it? |
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| 11:55.38 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1095 / (6 files in 2 directories): Major rewrite of GridStatusAuras' internals. |
| 11:55.40 | Repo | Removed SpecialEventsEmbed-Auras. |
| 11:55.43 | Repo | Knows the difference between buffs you cast and buffs other people cast. (See the 'Is Mine' option) |
| 11:56.07 | pastamancer | I can't believe that only took 5 hours in the middle of the night |
| 11:56.34 | doom0r | did you go walkin in your sleep |
| 11:56.47 | EthanCentaurai | go back to bed... the Light compels you :P |
| 11:57.13 | pastamancer | I've got that over-tired feeling... I'm tired but not sleepy |
| 11:57.26 | EthanCentaurai | ugh that sucks |
| 11:57.34 | pastamancer | yeah |
| 11:57.50 | pastamancer | I normally have pretty bad insomnia because I forget to relax before bedtime |
| 11:57.59 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231069931318.jpg <-i hate it when that happens |
| 11:59.06 | pastamancer | hmm, can you do a ready check in arenas or bgs? |
| 12:00.13 | EthanCentaurai | dunno I don't do either :P |
| 12:00.13 | EthanCentaurai | I'd assume yes to BGs though |
| 12:00.13 | pastamancer | neither do I :( |
| 12:00.13 | doom0r | it was funnier when it was posted before christmas |
| 12:01.26 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r719 AceLocale-3.0/AceLocale-3.0.lua: AceLocale-3.0: |
| 12:01.28 | Repo | Implement 'silent' option for :NewLocale |
| 12:01.30 | Fisker- | stupid wineglass quest |
| 12:01.31 | Repo | The new fourth parameter to :NewLocale, 'silent', allows you to disable the warnings on missing locale entrys in the base locale while developing, for example. |
| 12:01.34 | Repo | Closes Ticket #18 |
| 12:01.34 | Fisker- | l2wineglassspawn |
| 12:01.56 | selckin | i've been abadoning that |
| 12:02.22 | EthanCentaurai | Fisker-: stop wine-ing :P |
| 12:02.55 | nevcairiel | why does commiting always break wowace |
| 12:03.30 | EthanCentaurai | because the packager drains the power away from the main site |
| 12:04.07 | EthanCentaurai | ckknight: employ more hamsters, install more wheels :) |
| 12:04.15 | digmouse | ckknight: ping |
| 12:04.27 | ckknight | digmouse: pong |
| 12:04.40 | doom0r | or it could be the fact that it's a dynamic page and the db serves the content? |
| 12:04.46 | nevcairiel | ckknight: see r719 there |
| 12:04.48 | digmouse | I should use the new translation system if I finished? |
| 12:05.10 | ckknight | digmouse: translation system should be fine |
| 12:05.37 | digmouse | kk, should be around tonight |
| 12:07.19 | digmouse | and the portrait is still indicator style? |
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| 12:10.42 | ckknight | digmouse: yea, that's low priority as far as I'm concerned |
| 12:11.19 | digmouse | think so too, I dont quite use portrait myself and that would not be a big issue |
| 12:12.36 | ckknight | clearly, this just gives the designers more "creativity" |
| 12:12.37 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 12:14.15 | ckknight | digmouse: did you mean the translation system for your own projects? |
| 12:14.16 | ckknight | or what? |
| 12:19.13 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r720 AceGUI-3.0/widgets/AceGUIWidget-EditBox.lua: AceGUI-3.0: |
| 12:19.16 | Repo | Fix EditBox alignment if the label is disabled. |
| 12:19.19 | Repo | Closes Ticket #13 |
| 12:19.55 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1096 GridStatusReadyCheck.lua: |
| 12:19.58 | Repo | Use Grid_PartyTransition event to detect leaving a raid/party rather than a repeating timer. (needs to be tested). |
| 12:20.00 | Repo | Various stylistic changes. |
| 12:23.34 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1097 .pkgmeta: Remove SEEA from .pkgmeta |
| 12:24.14 | digmouse | ck: nothing, I've figured out it, will commit it up to PB4 in minutes |
| 12:24.20 | digmouse | testing locally :D |
| 12:29.19 | Fisker- | finally |
| 12:29.23 | Fisker- | got a white bear from storm peaks dailies |
| 12:39.08 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r721 AceHook-3.0/AceHook-3.0.lua: AceHook-3.0: |
| 12:39.10 | Repo | Fix :SecureHookScript to not fail on previously empty scripts since frame:HookScript does nothing at all in that case. |
| 12:39.13 | Repo | Closes Ticket #16 |
| 12:40.45 | nevcairiel | freezes wowace again |
| 12:43.44 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1098 Grid.toc: Updated toc. |
| 12:43.47 | Repo | The Gridpocalypse cometh Jan 15. |
| 12:43.53 | pastamancer | I think you set a new record for locking up mysql |
| 12:44.06 | nevcairiel | i should turn off alpha packaging |
| 12:44.08 | nevcairiel | heeh |
| 12:46.57 | Stanzilla | do you still need x-embeds in the toc? *looks at grid* |
| 12:47.13 | nevcairiel | no |
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| 12:47.49 | pastamancer | I probably don't need X-anything anymore |
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| 12:53.26 | Fisker- | why so srs? |
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| 12:57.01 | digmouse | ck: I should paste the whole text in or without the quotes? |
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| 13:03.37 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1099 / (5 files in 2 directories): Removed babble-spell. |
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| 13:13.11 | digmouse | ckknight: ping |
| 13:13.31 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r722 changelog.txt: Update changelog.txt |
| 13:18.54 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel 04Beta-r722 * r723 : Tagging as Beta-r722 |
| 13:24.40 | thul | farscape is on google video :-D |
| 13:33.02 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 042.0.2 Release * r74 : Tagging as 2.0.2 Release |
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| 13:35.38 | Pneumatus | ooh, GridStatusReadyCheck.lua :o |
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| 13:54.07 | Repo | 10quartz: 03Nevcairiel 04r10-release * r10 : Tagging as r10-release |
| 13:54.25 | nevcairiel | nymbia really needs to appear here more |
| 13:55.13 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 13:55.19 | Fisker- | but he's scared since i keep harassing him |
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| 13:55.44 | nevcairiel | maybe we should ban you, then |
| 13:57.23 | nevcairiel | ~seen ag` |
| 13:57.54 | purl | ag` <n=ag`@90.185.136.227> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 49d 14h 34m 34s ago, saying: 'I just use buggrabber alone'. |
| 13:57.54 | nevcairiel | ~ping |
| 13:58.09 | purl | ~pong |
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| 13:58.09 | nevcairiel | purl, die |
| 13:58.10 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 13:58.11 | nevcairiel | wow |
| 13:59.01 | Repo | 10ag_unitframes: 03Nevcairiel * r683 ag_UnitFrames.toc: Update date in .toc |
| 13:59.41 | Repo | 10ag_unitframes: 03Nevcairiel 04v20090104 * r684 : Tagging as v20090104 |
| 14:00.11 | robotusch | :O |
| 14:00.28 | robotusch | How cunning of you |
| 14:00.54 | nevcairiel | i have his permission, i just didnt realize he was gone for so long |
| 14:01.26 | robotusch | yeah |
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| 14:01.38 | robotusch | probably too busy with that spacegoat of his |
| 14:01.43 | Fisker- | i keep harassing ag as well nevcairiel |
| 14:01.49 | Fisker- | ~seen nymbia |
| 14:01.49 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-190-49-185.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 12h 47m 1s ago, saying: 'sherpentshrine cavern ;)'. |
| 14:02.03 | robotusch | well, unlike YOU, ag likes me & my inputs! |
| 14:02.11 | Fisker- | he also likes mine |
| 14:02.16 | onaforeignshore | salutations :p |
| 14:02.17 | robotusch | lies |
| 14:02.22 | Fisker- | i told him to l2p and make get combo points from vehicles |
| 14:02.32 | Fisker- | s/make// |
| 14:02.34 | nevcairiel | i did the cp from vehicles :P |
| 14:02.46 | Fisker- | Yeah but i bitched about it first :3 |
| 14:06.25 | GShock | I tried to write a macro like this: /target [nofocus]lasttarget;[target==focus]lasttarget;focus , this is pseudo code, I don't know how to implement it in WOW, can anybody help me? |
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| 14:09.33 | Repo | 10ag_unitframes: 03Nevcairiel * r685 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix module loading and cleanup .toc |
| 14:09.41 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sartharion |
| 14:09.49 | Xinhuan | lol since when does wowwiki embed youtube videos directly now |
| 14:10.51 | Stanzilla | pastamancer: what's the next lib you kick out of grid? gratuity? :P |
| 14:13.56 | mitchnull | nev: is there some major change in Ace3? (I see you tagging random stuff as new release) |
| 14:14.04 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 14:14.31 | nevcairiel | just some addons that received fixes thats werent tagged for a long time (and their authors are MIA) |
| 14:15.43 | nevcairiel | ace3 only got some small fixes and enhancements, nothing anyone really needs to worry about |
| 14:16.16 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: http://ace.pastey.net/105535 |
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| 14:16.44 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: ^^ occured when joining a group |
| 14:18.54 | mitchnull | ok, thanks |
| 14:20.28 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Nevcairiel * r635 Locales/GatherMate-zhTW.lua: Fixed zhTW translation of Lichbloom |
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| 14:26.28 | syeren | Anyone competent with HTML / CSS here? |
| 14:26.47 | syeren | I recently move an index file from one domain to another, and it has somehow broken how it was displayed >_> |
| 14:27.25 | Repo | 10wintergraspfu: 03-Adron- * r14 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added "localization" for enUS |
| 14:27.27 | Repo | Added getting time from the yells in Dalaran |
| 14:27.30 | Repo | Cleaned up code some |
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| 14:28.15 | syeren | What the hell is this >_< |
| 14:28.33 | syeren | What the fuck. |
| 14:28.34 | syeren | Argh |
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| 14:35.24 | Xinhuan | @project stalker |
| 14:35.25 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/stalker/. Stalker. Game: WoW. Croy9000 (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 hours ago |
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| 14:43.35 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/guilder/. Guilder. onaforeignshore (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan. |
| 14:43.39 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/buffinformant/. BuffInformant. akazik (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan. |
| 14:43.43 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/spector/. SpecTor. Kunstbanause (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan. |
| 14:44.30 | Grum | Xinhuan: oooh http://www.wowace.com/projects/buffinformant/ has /bi as shorthand ;) |
| 14:44.35 | Grum | clashes with BankItems! kill it! =D |
| 14:44.38 | Xinhuan | yeah i noticed |
| 14:45.23 | Xinhuan | but the addons each also have the longer /buffinformant and /bankitems |
| 14:45.30 | Xinhuan | so to me it isn't really a concern |
| 14:46.04 | nevcairiel | the two-char slashcommands are all probably overloaded alot |
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| 14:46.25 | Fisker- | Is it 5 or 6 minutes you got for patchwerk? |
| 14:46.30 | nevcairiel | 6 |
| 14:46.53 | Grum | you will need 600 Fisker- |
| 14:47.04 | Fisker- | ? |
| 14:47.32 | thul | MINUTES |
| 14:47.51 | Fisker- | your mom |
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| 14:49.22 | Xinhuan | we missed the 3 min kill achievement by 1 second today :( |
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| 14:51.22 | syeren | Awwwwww |
| 14:51.27 | syeren | 10 less faggot-useless points. |
| 14:52.31 | thul | what are those things fgood for anyway? :-P |
| 14:52.41 | Xinhuan | for my epeen /flex |
| 14:53.08 | thul | but my flesh-penis is so huge that i don't need an epeen |
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| 15:01.24 | Fisker- | http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/865825#damageout <-interesting raid setup |
| 15:01.52 | digmouse | o.O WMO? |
| 15:02.39 | digmouse | where do you get it fisker |
| 15:06.49 | Xinhuan | @project arl |
| 15:06.53 | Fisker- | get what? |
| 15:08.45 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Elkano (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Jim-Bim (Author). Updated: 11 hours ago. Tickets: 7/307 |
| 15:09.02 | Xinhuan | lol 307 tickets >.< |
| 15:09.47 | Megalon | 302 are the "missing recipe xyz"-kind |
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| 15:39.56 | Camci | Anyone know how to make a macro so a spell automatically targets you if your below a certain HP, wheras is used on the target if your above that hp? |
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| 15:43.04 | Fisker- | Not possible |
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| 15:44.55 | Camci | why ? |
| 15:45.48 | ant1pathy | api restrictions |
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| 15:45.55 | ant1pathy | blizzard doesn't want it too automated |
| 15:46.36 | Camci | well you click it |
| 15:46.43 | Camci | and if your below lets say 40% |
| 15:46.47 | Camci | you cast spell on yourself |
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| 15:46.52 | Camci | above 40, on your target |
| 15:47.14 | Camci | no go? |
| 15:47.16 | ant1pathy | newp |
| 15:47.29 | ant1pathy | nothing that can check for conditions like that |
| 15:47.32 | Camci | oh well |
| 15:47.39 | ant1pathy | it can only do things like stances |
| 15:47.47 | ant1pathy | or druid forms |
| 15:47.55 | Camci | ok |
| 15:47.56 | Camci | cheers |
| 15:48.07 | ant1pathy | sorry i can't be of real help :P |
| 15:48.12 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r10 / (3 files in 1 directory): add AceSerializer-3.0 in the comms |
| 15:48.14 | Repo | correct a few bugs in the comms between players |
| 15:48.17 | Repo | correct objective status when got == need |
| 15:48.19 | ant1pathy | but they removed that back in something like patch 1.2 |
| 15:48.20 | Repo | few other bugs corrected |
| 15:49.39 | Tigerdyr | The check is possible (life of Target vs Life of Self), but getting it to cast anything is afair not possible. |
| 15:50.31 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 15:50.34 | Repo | 632c74a: Updated Version Number |
| 15:50.36 | Repo | 275a053: Disable color caching for OutOfMana/OutOfRange coloring since there are issues with invalidating the cache. |
| 15:50.39 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 044.2.2 * 28d58cf /: [new tag] Tag as 4.2.2 |
| 15:58.12 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r11 tomQuest2.lua: set tracker strata to background instead of tooltip |
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| 16:08.01 | p3lim | is away: I'm not here right now, leave a message. |
| 16:13.22 | Fisker- | ah lame |
| 16:13.29 | Fisker- | just sniped a priest out of the air |
| 16:13.37 | Fisker- | And i made sure to land in water |
| 16:13.44 | Fisker- | which i found out was shallow water |
| 16:13.44 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 16:13.57 | Fisker- | AND I'M PERMA COMBATTED |
| 16:14.00 | Fisker- | :EEE |
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| 16:14.17 | Fisker- | fu stupid wintergrasp |
| 16:15.38 | Repo | 10broker_ankhtimer: 03Millel * r10 Core.lua: Added extra check for special case to improve performance. |
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| 16:17.34 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.2-1-g9065b0e / (12 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Added new "Hide on Vehicle" preset option, currently in use by the PetBar to hide the single "Attack" button being shown on the engineering chopper mounts and possible other Vehicle-type mounts. |
| 16:17.38 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07universalbutton * 4.2.1-20-g799482c / (2 files in 1 directory): [+4 commits] |
| 16:17.40 | Repo | 799482c: Added ItemButton code |
| 16:17.43 | Repo | aa10f1f: Added basic event handling and cooldown support |
| 16:17.47 | Repo | 9e66aed: Added G_spellIdxLookup table to the secure environment |
| 16:17.51 | Repo | 7cfc147: Cleanup |
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| 16:20.08 | p3lim | is back (gone 00:12:07) |
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| 16:42.18 | thul | farscape ftw. |
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| 17:00.17 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1304 RecipeDB/ARL-Mob.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:00.19 | Repo | - re add two winter NPCs to the moblist to prevent lua reference errors |
| 17:00.22 | Repo | - they were removed with latest dataminer (r1298), but are still used |
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| 17:10.38 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik * r15 BuffInformant.lua: - new demo messages |
| 17:10.42 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_serenity: 03StormFX * r36 Skins.lua: |
| 17:10.44 | Repo | - Don't set the "Border" color as it breaks debuff coloring. |
| 17:10.47 | Repo | - Blend mode for the "Border" set back to "ADD" for the Redux skins. Yes, it's barely visible. Darken the "Normal" texture color or deal with it. :p |
| 17:15.04 | Fisker- | nevcairiel i will end you |
| 17:15.12 | nevcairiel | you do that |
| 17:15.20 | Fisker- | :( |
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| 17:16.18 | Repo | 10buffinformant: 03akazik 04v3.0-16 * r16 : Tagging as v3.0-16 |
| 17:16.33 | Fisker- | server queue is seeeeeeeeeerveeeeeeer |
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| 17:32.29 | Repo | 10mergebags: 03-Adron- * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): MergeBags addon initial commit |
| 17:34.40 | Repo | 10mergebags: 03-Adron- 040.1-beta1 * r3 : First beta |
| 17:38.32 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_serenity: 03StormFX 043.0.3 * r37 : Tagging as 3.0.3 |
| 17:40.33 | Repo | 10wishlist: 03XIU * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): Wishlist: |
| 17:40.36 | Repo | - Added ability to add custom items as requirements (managed with /wl requirements items) |
| 17:41.47 | Repo | 10wishlist: 03XIU 04stable * r47 : Wishlist: |
| 17:41.50 | Repo | - Old stable |
| 17:42.08 | Repo | 10wishlist: 03XIU 04stable * r48 : Wishlist: |
| 17:42.10 | Repo | - New stable build |
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| 17:47.28 | Ackis | ~lart ckknight |
| 17:47.28 | purl | cuts ckknight into thin stripes |
| 17:47.40 | Ackis | ~lart ckknight |
| 17:47.40 | purl | judo chops ckknight |
| 17:47.53 | Ackis | ~lart ckknight |
| 17:47.53 | purl | strangles ckknight with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 17:48.01 | Ackis | (showing my gf what lart is) |
| 17:48.43 | onaforeignshore | excuses, excuses :P |
| 17:48.47 | nevcairiel | imho purl has a malformed definition of lart |
| 17:48.51 | nevcairiel | its lart is mostly a slap |
| 17:49.15 | Fisker- | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:49.16 | Fisker- | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:49.42 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_serenity: 03StormFX 043.0.36 * r38 : Tagging as 3.0.36 |
| 17:49.51 | Megalon | Fisker- has a malformed definition of just about everything |
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| 17:50.29 | mjc | ~lart Fisker- |
| 17:50.29 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up Fisker- |
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| 17:56.40 | NivFreak | Zhinjio: ping |
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| 17:59.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1305 / (6 files in 2 directories): |
| 17:59.31 | Repo | Remove the seasonal NPC's that Jim-Bim added and remove the references to them... the recipes don't drop from great father winter duder :P |
| 18:00.07 | Pneumatus | all aboard the failboat |
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| 18:01.02 | mjc | heh |
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| 18:02.49 | Fisker- | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:04.38 | Ackis | Pneumatus: am I the fail boat? :( |
| 18:04.55 | Pneumatus | ARL is the failboat, and you are the captain! |
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| 18:05.13 | Ackis | :( |
| 18:05.22 | Ackis | thanks... |
| 18:05.23 | quiescens | o.o |
| 18:05.28 | Pneumatus | <3 |
| 18:06.04 | Megalon | come aboars you little buccaneer! |
| 18:06.12 | Megalon | s/aboars/aboard/ |
| 18:06.15 | Megalon | :s |
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| 18:06.25 | quiescens | go to sleep~ |
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| 18:17.09 | Saroz | alternative to Expiration anyone? |
| 18:17.28 | nevcairiel | Acheron |
| 18:17.38 | Saroz | ty |
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| 18:19.43 | thul | woo, 474 defence now :-P |
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| 18:20.29 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1306 RecipeDB/ARL-Engineer.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 18:20.31 | Repo | - removed another seasonal mob drop reference Ackis missed |
| 18:20.34 | Repo | - btw: did you ever kill the dude to make sure its true? |
| 18:21.34 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 18:21.58 | Megalon | haha |
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| 18:23.41 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 18:28.44 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r724 AceAddon-3.0/AceAddon-3.0.lua: |
| 18:28.46 | Repo | AceAddon-3.0: First pass of converting function headers to luadoc |
| 18:31.31 | nevcairiel | man that documenter isnt really that good, i should write them as proper wiki pages and hose those in the repo =P |
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| 18:35.42 | Fisker- | fucking retarded blastwave |
| 18:35.46 | Fisker- | l2hotfix blizzard |
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| 18:53.33 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r1852 / (5 files in 5 directories): - Updated format for The Nexus and Utgarde Keep |
| 18:53.45 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r725 / (2 files in 2 directories): Clean up docs |
| 18:55.29 | thul | my irssi is acting _really_ weird, when i select and copy stuff, it really selects and copies stuff 4-5 lines up |
| 18:59.45 | Camci | is there any way to see the target of your focus? |
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| 19:00.45 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1100 GridStatusReadyCheck.lua: Forgot to grab settings in party transition handler. |
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| 19:06.49 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1307 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fix a lot of locations and a few enchanting patterns. |
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| 19:22.56 | Aiiane | Camci: get a unitframes that suports focus' target |
| 19:24.22 | haste | thul: using it over putty? |
| 19:25.59 | Ackis | When posting a bug report, do NOT include all of the addons from swatter. This just makes it difficult to read. If you want a good error reporting mod, get BugSack. Do not post errors/missing recipes in the comments, or send them to me via a PM. Post them as a ticket which I can address and track easily. |
| 19:26.09 | Ackis | wonder how many people will read and follow that |
| 19:26.11 | Ackis | roflz |
| 19:26.39 | Droolio | innit |
| 19:26.54 | Droolio | Ackis: do what i do, whack a bloody big link at the top of your addon description saying : click here to post a bug report |
| 19:27.22 | Droolio | http://www.wowace.com/projects/nauticus/ |
| 19:27.40 | Droolio | and link it to a page on how to make a good report |
| 19:27.52 | Ackis | I might have to |
| 19:27.57 | Ackis | this is ingame documentation though |
| 19:29.19 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok 07unitguid * r1101 GridStatusReadyCheck.lua: |
| 19:29.19 | Repo | When clearing status due to party state transitions, etc., no longer uses delay. Now registers for PARTY_LEADER_CHANGED. |
| 19:29.40 | Ackis | I think I'm going to do something bad... an onload message |
| 19:30.05 | Primer | curse shows no updates since 12/31/2008 |
| 19:30.31 | Primer | wonder if there's a year rollover issue...or if there just haven't been any updates |
| 19:30.39 | Droolio | there's a ticket about that |
| 19:30.50 | Droolio | but the addons do update via curse client... |
| 19:31.49 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1308 / (4 files in 3 directories): |
| 19:31.51 | Repo | Update ingame documentation (including two new localization strings) |
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| 19:32.40 | Droolio | damnit, the curse client alpha is too slow to keep up with Ackis... |
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| 19:33.21 | Ackis | :P |
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| 19:48.32 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis 041.0B12.3 * r1309 : Tag, you're it |
| 19:49.55 | ckknight | nevcairiel: wouldn't it be better for everyone to improve the documenter? What's your issues with it? |
| 19:50.21 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: it sucks at optional arguments |
| 19:50.23 | nevcairiel | I cant properly document functions with alot of variable args |
| 19:50.32 | nevcairiel | and formating sucks |
| 19:50.45 | nevcairiel | having <br> tags in inlien docs is ugly :( |
| 19:51.03 | ckknight | oh, I have a fix for that I want to implement... |
| 19:51.07 | ckknight | I have it locally |
| 19:51.13 | ckknight | (the newline shit) |
| 19:51.43 | nevcairiel | Plus i need like <pre> tags to get a proper usage doc |
| 19:51.57 | nevcairiel | it will never be flexible enough for the complex Ace3 docs |
| 19:52.05 | nevcairiel | sadly, when i do something, i want to do it properly =P |
| 19:52.24 | ckknight | right, I'm going to add <pre> to usage |
| 19:52.25 | ckknight | I had it locally |
| 19:52.29 | ckknight | but never pushed it live |
| 19:52.35 | ckknight | well, this was a while ago, actulaly |
| 19:52.38 | ckknight | actually* |
| 19:52.44 | nevcairiel | well, i dont want pre around everything |
| 19:52.54 | nevcairiel | multiple examples maybe |
| 19:52.59 | nevcairiel | different pre tags |
| 19:53.00 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis * r133 locales/locale-ruRU.lua: In mother russia, mods localize you. |
| 19:53.01 | ckknight | in usage, it makes sense to |
| 19:53.02 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 19:53.08 | ckknight | one per usage tag |
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| 19:56.14 | Ackis | that was fun |
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| 19:57.41 | Mackatack | :P |
| 19:57.46 | Pneumatus | ~fail repo |
| 19:57.47 | purl | repo: FAIL! |
| 19:59.36 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03ckknight * r84 TestAlpha.lua: multi-line usage test |
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| 20:08.38 | Droolio | ckknight: could you make it so the current settings for a translation in the localization app is checked when the page loads? |
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| 20:08.52 | ckknight | ...what? |
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| 20:09.01 | Droolio | i.e. the radio box and the 'Someone should review this translation' checkbox |
| 20:09.13 | ckknight | what about it? |
| 20:09.16 | Droolio | atm the new translation is automatically checked |
| 20:09.19 | ckknight | right |
| 20:09.25 | ckknight | and if it's changed, it'll update |
| 20:09.27 | ckknight | otherwise it won't |
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| 20:10.01 | Droolio | even though the 'new translation' is already checked? |
| 20:10.07 | ckknight | yes. |
| 20:10.49 | Droolio | ah ok. i didn't wanna test it in case it in case it didn't do that |
| 20:10.53 | ckknight | it's done to be less of a chore to the translators |
| 20:11.37 | Droolio | k |
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| 20:15.32 | ckknight | okay, got the multiline usage thing all worked out |
| 20:15.33 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/pages/test-alpha-api/ |
| 20:15.49 | ckknight | nevcairiel: ^-- |
| 20:15.52 | ckknight | so at least that |
| 20:16.49 | nevcairiel | at least no <br> anymore |
| 20:17.18 | nevcairiel | but documenting variable arg functions is still a pain |
| 20:17.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 20:17.35 | ckknight | what is a better way to do it? |
| 20:17.42 | haste | textile! |
| 20:17.45 | nevcairiel | manually :) |
| 20:18.02 | nevcairiel | well the documented signature in my case would be |
| 20:18.03 | Fisker- | i hate slimes |
| 20:18.11 | ckknight | what I'm asking is what should your end result look like? |
| 20:19.25 | nevcairiel | :NewAddon([object, ]name[, lib, ...]) |
| 20:19.30 | nevcairiel | there is no easy way to do that |
| 20:19.37 | ckknight | ah, yes |
| 20:19.40 | nevcairiel | unless, i can specify an alternate signature through comments |
| 20:19.43 | ckknight | those situations |
| 20:20.08 | ckknight | you could alter the taglet |
| 20:20.13 | ckknight | to let you specify two param lists |
| 20:20.16 | ckknight | or something |
| 20:20.33 | ckknight | or make a tag to show a different signature entirely |
| 20:20.46 | ckknight | @paramsig [object,] name [, lib, ...] |
| 20:20.49 | ckknight | or something |
| 20:21.05 | nevcairiel | would be rather complicated, though. since it reads the available params from the sig too |
| 20:21.45 | nevcairiel | unless you turn that off if @paramsig is provided, and only use @param provided ones |
| 20:21.50 | nevcairiel | but its getting complicated again |
| 20:22.13 | ckknight | lemme see if it actually is complicated |
| 20:22.24 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX * r56 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Fixed a typo. |
| 20:22.27 | Repo | - Adjust the version. |
| 20:22.30 | Repo | - Fix it so that debuff coloring works. |
| 20:23.55 | Arrowmaster | doesnt luadoc completely break on args if you use function func(...) end? |
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| 20:24.57 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: it treats ... as an arg |
| 20:25.11 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 20:25.24 | nevcairiel | yeah it just lists it as one param |
| 20:25.29 | nevcairiel | you can doc it with @param ... |
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| 20:25.41 | Arrowmaster | but it looks like shit in the docs like that |
| 20:25.49 | nevcairiel | not that bad |
| 20:25.52 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: positive thoughts |
| 20:25.52 | Arrowmaster | so yeah a way to completely override it would be good |
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| 20:25.58 | ckknight | override it and show what? |
| 20:26.20 | Arrowmaster | show whatever you specifiy |
| 20:26.23 | Repo | 10buttonfacade_apathy: 03StormFX 043.0.56 * r57 : Tagging as 3.0.56 |
| 20:26.55 | ckknight | I'm asking what that would be |
| 20:27.02 | ckknight | unless you're just bringing up nev's point again |
| 20:27.14 | Arrowmaster | @paramsig sounds good |
| 20:28.07 | ckknight | yea, it's possible as far as I can tell |
| 20:28.20 | ckknight | just gotta write a tag that munges block.params |
| 20:28.28 | ckknight | err |
| 20:28.29 | ckknight | block.param |
| 20:29.20 | ckknight | and sets something like block.paramsig, so that the doclet can display that instead of table.concat(func.param, ', ') |
| 20:29.55 | nevcairiel | should be easy |
| 20:29.59 | nevcairiel | i'll play with it |
| 20:30.26 | ckknight | wth |
| 20:30.29 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/localization/ |
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| 20:30.39 | ckknight | PitBull4 is now Chinese-localized |
| 20:30.40 | thul | 292 peeeps in queue |
| 20:31.06 | ckknight | I only put in the phrases yesterday |
| 20:31.28 | nevcairiel | ckknight: is there some automagic way to specify git-like remotes in hg? for easier merging? i hate typing in the full url everytime |
| 20:31.43 | ckknight | yea, change .hg/hgrc |
| 20:31.51 | ckknight | I have you named "nevcairiel" |
| 20:31.56 | ckknight | so I do hg fetch nevcairiel |
| 20:32.00 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 20:32.06 | nevcairiel | so i just add one entry there |
| 20:32.08 | nevcairiel | does |
| 20:32.09 | ckknight | yep |
| 20:33.59 | ckknight | ~seen digmouse |
| 20:34.01 | purl | digmouse <n=chatzill@123.112.74.154> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 5h 31m 22s ago, saying: 'where do you get it fisker'. |
| 20:35.16 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 20:35.21 | nevcairiel | do you care about the warnings? =P |
| 20:35.28 | nevcairiel | the taglet outputs some warnings |
| 20:35.31 | nevcairiel | to luadoc.logger |
| 20:35.52 | ckknight | I don't care |
| 20:35.55 | ckknight | just errors |
| 20:36.01 | ckknight | which stop execution |
| 20:36.23 | nevcairiel | when you specify @param that doesnt exist, it warns |
| 20:36.28 | nevcairiel | but i guess i'll let it warn |
| 20:36.37 | nevcairiel | or dont warn if paramsig is set |
| 20:37.31 | Zyndrome | how the fuck did this happen ... no one can see Sartharion, only the tank |
| 20:38.49 | Zyndrome | lol, Sartharion appeared again when the tank moved him Oo |
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| 20:43.30 | nevcairiel | ckknight: pushed |
| 20:48.38 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03Nevcairiel * r85 TestAlpha.lua: test this! |
| 20:48.45 | ckknight | test your mom |
| 20:49.03 | nevcairiel | heh it broke |
| 20:49.10 | nevcairiel | look at the output =P |
| 20:49.18 | ckknight | blah |
| 20:49.21 | nevcairiel | multiple usage doesnt play nice |
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| 20:49.41 | ckknight | I see no params. |
| 20:50.12 | nevcairiel | yeah, fixing that |
| 20:50.37 | nevcairiel | but whats wrong with the rendering of the output |
| 20:50.41 | nevcairiel | the code looks good |
| 20:50.42 | nevcairiel | shrugs |
| 20:51.52 | onaforeignshore | libBabble-Boss enUS translation missing? |
| 20:51.55 | Repo | 10arl: 03TrAsHeR * r1310 Locals/ARLLocals-frFR.lua: frFR update |
| 20:53.40 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03Nevcairiel * r86 TestAlpha.lua: we return something, too! |
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| 20:55.26 | thul | crits nevcairiel |
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| 21:06.19 | ckknight | so who things we need to add a new license to wowace: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware |
| 21:06.52 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 21:07.17 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03Nevcairiel * r87 TestAlpha.lua: touch the usage some |
| 21:08.02 | ckknight | hurrah |
| 21:08.47 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03Nevcairiel * r88 TestAlpha.lua: more touching |
| 21:09.10 | ckknight | touches nevcairiel |
| 21:10.11 | nevcairiel | that looks acceptable now |
| 21:10.33 | nevcairiel | maybe return value should go above usage? |
| 21:11.10 | ckknight | maybe |
| 21:11.19 | ckknight | luadoc does it param - usage - return for some reason |
| 21:11.29 | ckknight | frankly return before usage makes more sense to me |
| 21:11.35 | nevcairiel | same |
| 21:11.58 | ckknight | cause it's like, input, output, example |
| 21:12.09 | ckknight | rather than input, example (which shows you using output), output |
| 21:12.56 | nevcairiel | there, reorderd |
| 21:14.52 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/projects/test-alpha/pages/test-alpha-api/ |
| 21:15.21 | Repo | 10test-alpha: 03Nevcairiel * r89 TestAlpha.lua: bleh! |
| 21:15.57 | nevcairiel | hey it strips empty lines already |
| 21:15.58 | nevcairiel | thats nice |
| 21:16.30 | nevcairiel | but thats better |
| 21:16.31 | nevcairiel | order wise |
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| 21:20.02 | Repo | 10o-uf_debuff-highlight: 03Ammo * r41 oUF_DebuffHighlight.lua: urgh, make this behave properly |
| 21:20.22 | Fisker- | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 21:20.23 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming (2d 15h 46m 54s) #wowuidev (2d 15h 46m 54s) #wowace (2d 15h 46m 54s) #curseforge (2d 15h 46m 54s), last said: 'and if you're not using the latest version, you should udate.'. |
| 21:20.33 | Fisker- | jnwhiteh my friend :( |
| 21:21.28 | Repo | 10o-uf_debuff-highlight: 03Ammo 04r41-release * r42 : Tagging as r41-release |
| 21:26.56 | mjc | someone hit me with an addon I should try |
| 21:27.06 | mjc | I could use an autobar replacement, for example |
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| 21:39.26 | Industrial | since I cant lik to posts in a thread anymore without showing only that post and not the context/thread ill link to the thread! http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=1799&page=908 |
| 21:39.31 | Industrial | watcha think :E? |
| 21:40.29 | nevcairiel | what about http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=260419&postcount=9071 ? |
| 21:40.30 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 21:40.50 | Stanzilla | evil chatfont :D |
| 21:40.50 | Industrial | yes. only the post. |
| 21:40.56 | Industrial | and see that was not the one i was talking about |
| 21:40.59 | Industrial | the bottom one. |
| 21:41.07 | nevcairiel | the post id on the right corner is the link to the post |
| 21:41.09 | nevcairiel | go get it yourself |
| 21:41.14 | Industrial | yes, and it only displays the post |
| 21:41.33 | Industrial | not the thread + scroll down to the post, like it is on most forums |
| 21:41.42 | nevcairiel | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=1799&page=908#9074 then? |
| 21:41.51 | Industrial | yes. howd you link there? |
| 21:42.16 | nevcairiel | i appended #9074 to the link |
| 21:42.19 | nevcairiel | dunno if there is a link |
| 21:42.27 | Industrial | :\ k |
| 21:42.52 | Industrial | anyway! watcha think :>? |
| 21:42.59 | nevcairiel | anyway i'm off for today, got university tomorrow again |
| 21:43.47 | Stanzilla | evil chatfont :D << |
| 21:43.54 | Industrial | hows it evil |
| 21:44.02 | Industrial | (its the font for everything btw) |
| 21:44.03 | Stanzilla | not very readable imo |
| 21:44.17 | Pkekyo| | WHAT THE HELL |
| 21:44.17 | Pkekyo| | watching Madagascar 2 - in the middle of the movie all audio suddenly changed to russian >.< |
| 21:44.27 | Industrial | lol. |
| 21:44.47 | pastamancer | comrade lion |
| 21:45.01 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok 07unitguid * r1102 GridStatusReadyCheck.lua: |
| 21:45.05 | Repo | Now registers for RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE to clear ready check if raid assist is lost. |
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| 21:45.46 | Saroz | vhaarr, how do I check if an oRA2 module is disabled (toggle being unchecked) |
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| 21:52.26 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Dessa * r4884 Naxxramas/Gothik.lua: Gothik: fix deDE startwarn |
| 21:53.03 | mjc | bot character encoding translation fail |
| 21:53.16 | mjc | I think ;) |
| 21:53.25 | mjc | hmm no it's irssi |
| 21:54.03 | onaforeignshore | irssi? |
| 21:54.09 | mjc | my irc client |
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| 21:56.45 | Fisker- | Any retardins here? |
| 21:57.25 | ckknight | I know one in here |
| 21:57.35 | ckknight | (hint: it's you) |
| 21:57.41 | Fisker- | gj |
| 21:57.45 | mjc | ckknight++ |
| 21:57.49 | Fisker- | if only i didn't know that already |
| 21:58.03 | Fisker- | captain oblivious |
| 21:58.06 | Skellum | They need to make SoC the primary ret DPS seal |
| 21:58.17 | Skellum | Blood is stupidly designed for a raid environment |
| 21:58.49 | Skellum | Hi Mr. Warlock, Hi Mr.DK, you're damage has increased hows that survivability? Goin up! |
| 21:59.18 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 21:59.28 | Fisker- | so i guess you're ret? |
| 21:59.32 | Skellum | nope |
| 21:59.35 | Skellum | Im a warlock :D |
| 21:59.41 | Fisker- | FFFUUU-- |
| 21:59.45 | Skellum | my paladin is most often Prot |
| 22:00.14 | Skellum | I still dont want to level him though, my DK is far more fun, levels much smoother and quicker, and is more useful to raids |
| 22:00.38 | Fisker- | trying to find out if expertise gems > strength gems |
| 22:00.47 | Fisker- | still 3.5% short of being capped |
| 22:04.27 | vhaarr | Saroz: IsModuleActive? |
| 22:05.08 | vhaarr | Saroz: oRA:IsModuleActive("modulename") or local m = oRA:GetModule"modname";m:IsActive() |
| 22:05.47 | Aeyan | Fisker-: Just guessing, but I'd say expertise if you have to stand in the MOBs face or strength if it's a viable fight to stand behind it |
| 22:06.28 | Aeyan | Oh, wait, mobs can dodge from behind can't they |
| 22:06.29 | Aeyan | Bleh |
| 22:08.02 | Fisker- | ye |
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| 22:11.36 | Aeyan | retpaladin.com theorycrafts str/ap over expertise in general |
| 22:11.45 | Aeyan | Dunno how reliable of a source they are, though |
| 22:11.47 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 22:13.37 | thul | where is healingdeathknight.com? :-( |
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| 22:19.17 | ckknight | I wish I could specify ordering for AceConfig-3.0's selects. |
| 22:19.29 | ckknight | note: without going through shitty hacks like changing keys |
| 22:20.15 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 22:20.24 | Fisker- | then for some reason it didn't log combat |
| 22:20.26 | Fisker- | stupid client |
| 22:22.19 | mjc | heh it just made 5 of one potion from a proc |
| 22:22.20 | mjc | crazy |
| 22:22.32 | Skellum | so |
| 22:22.49 | Skellum | This hamburger helper tastes just like every other hamburger helper ive tasted |
| 22:22.55 | WobWork | surprise? |
| 22:23.00 | Skellum | I kno! |
| 22:23.09 | WobWork | Issn't that why you -use- HH? |
| 22:23.23 | mjc | Skellum: thank you for wasting two seconds of my day |
| 22:23.28 | Skellum | i use it because it makes me feel less lazy then had I gone to get fast food |
| 22:23.47 | mjc | it is more lazy |
| 22:23.51 | mjc | you don't even have to get out of the house! |
| 22:24.05 | WobWork | from what I read about it |
| 22:24.06 | WobWork | it's terrible |
| 22:24.07 | fewyn | Are there any non-fail dkp trackers out there that aren't eqdkp? |
| 22:24.20 | mjc | try walking to wendys |
| 22:24.26 | Skellum | but...I cooked :( |
| 22:24.36 | mjc | cooking doesn't make it better |
| 22:24.37 | WobWork | You should walk to wendys |
| 22:24.40 | WobWork | get a drink |
| 22:24.43 | WobWork | walk back and cook |
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| 22:24.58 | doom0r | Aeyan: absolutely |
| 22:25.05 | doom0r | you souldn't be parried ever |
| 22:25.15 | Aeyan | It was Fisker-'s question |
| 22:25.19 | Aeyan | and you can still be dodged |
| 22:25.27 | doom0r | so you're wasting half of item points |
| 22:25.33 | Pneumatus | fewyn: mldkp perhaps? |
| 22:25.47 | Pneumatus | dunno how it's fail compares to eqdkp as we use our own now |
| 22:26.31 | fewyn | I wish I knew php |
| 22:26.36 | fewyn | otherwise i'd have coded my own by now |
| 22:26.40 | WobWork | fewyn: don't do it =( |
| 22:26.58 | fewyn | EQDKP has become too much of a pain |
| 22:28.00 | fewyn | Tracking raids + boss kill dkp + loot costs, have to start a new event each boss in ctrt and do a seperate event for each and every kill |
| 22:28.36 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: have you intentionally fixed the secureheader warning in combat when new pets appear? |
| 22:28.41 | doom0r | anyone have a definitive link on game sound overrides? |
| 22:32.06 | Codayus | fewyn: Hm, I think I've heard good things about NRT and Headcount. |
| 22:35.01 | Codayus | There are also several ctrt versions floating around (or were the last time I looked, which was well before Wrath launched), some of which worked much better than others. The last ctrt I used didn't require any manual intervention to parse a raid into the proper eqdkp boss events. I haven't been involved in DKP in many months though. |
| 22:36.35 | doom0r | ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww IIS |
| 22:36.35 | Pneumatus | i use HeadCount for tracking raids, and it has the added bonus of exporting to xml |
| 22:36.35 | doom0r | is showing the physical path of objects really so smart when you 404? |
| 22:36.35 | doom0r | ;x |
| 22:37.29 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 07unitguid * r1103 GridStatusHealth.lua: |
| 22:37.32 | Repo | Check for offline on RRU and PMC since we don't have rosterlib telling us anymore. |
| 22:38.15 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: if it wasn't intentional, i've not been able to make the error occur since the last few unitguid commits |
| 22:39.19 | fewyn | Codayus: the problem isn't ctrt (using the mldkp version) it's eqdkp not picking up the boss events for some reason |
| 22:39.35 | fewyn | so i have to create a new "raid" for each boss and parse them seperately |
| 22:40.16 | Codayus | fewyn: Configure eqdkp properly then. :-/ |
| 22:40.26 | Pneumatus | fewyn: you probably need to hack the importer code |
| 22:40.33 | Pneumatus | to add the new bosses/instances |
| 22:41.13 | fewyn | i'm pretty sure it's configure properly |
| 22:41.20 | Codayus | The trick, IIRC, is to make sure ctrt is configured to put the right magic words in the export, and eqdkp is configured to look for the right ones in the import. |
| 22:41.22 | Stanzilla | pastamancer: are you going to remove gratuity lib, too? Just fooling around in my addons dir and grid is the only thing still using it :P |
| 22:42.10 | fewyn | http://guildoftubes.com/dkp/listraids.php?s= |
| 22:44.07 | doom0r | 50 DKP MINUS |
| 22:44.17 | doom0r | ;x |
| 22:44.18 | fewyn | Yes |
| 22:44.28 | doom0r | good memories |
| 22:44.52 | Codayus | fewyn: Mmm, go to Admin Panel -> CTRT import -> Configure -> Event Triggers/Raid Note Triggers |
| 22:45.03 | Codayus | Those need to match what ctrt is generating *EXACTLY* |
| 22:45.29 | fewyn | OMG |
| 22:45.34 | fewyn | >_> |
| 22:45.35 | Codayus | (I think on some versions of eqdkp that's configured via a config file, no web interface. YMMV.) |
| 22:45.44 | fewyn | You are now a god |
| 22:47.13 | Codayus | No worries. :-) |
| 22:47.30 | fewyn | tests |
| 22:47.53 | Codayus | I wouldn't be surprised if it STILL didn't work. |
| 22:48.30 | Codayus | eqdkp is the poster child of disfunctional development *and* design, the best example of why php shouldn't be used for anything, AND a handy proof of the existence of evil in this world. And the hacked ctrt export code isn't much better. :-( |
| 22:48.44 | harl | http://wow.harl.de/WoWScrnShot_010409_234713.jpg |
| 22:48.55 | harl | i don't think that's how it's supposed to look like.. lol |
| 22:49.19 | doom0r | depends, what substances are you under the influence of? |
| 22:49.23 | fewyn | Hmmm |
| 22:49.29 | Arrowmaster | actually the ctrt import module is probably the worst coded out of them |
| 22:49.29 | fewyn | nope doesn't work the way i think it should |
| 22:49.42 | Arrowmaster | its got the most problems than eqdkp imho |
| 22:49.53 | fewyn | it's the reason i want to kill people right now |
| 22:49.58 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: The import code in eqdkp or the export code in ctrt? |
| 22:50.15 | Codayus | (I'd agree with either assertion.) |
| 22:50.19 | Arrowmaster | there is no import code for ctrt in eqdkp |
| 22:50.26 | Arrowmaster | its an external module you have to install |
| 22:50.35 | Arrowmaster | not created by the people that make eqdkp afaik |
| 22:50.38 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: Right, that's what I meant. |
| 22:50.52 | Arrowmaster | and last time i looked at it, it was fucking retarded |
| 22:51.13 | Arrowmaster | like it completely ignored the xml section listing all the players in the data and what class they are |
| 22:51.13 | Pneumatus | eqdkp's retarded structure makes the importer even more retarded |
| 22:51.21 | Codayus | It's included with eqdkp plus, fwiw. And it's TERRIBLE. Although partly unavoidable because edqkp thinks database normalization is something that happens to other projects. |
| 22:51.25 | Arrowmaster | and instead needed the class listed in the join section of the xml |
| 22:52.23 | Codayus | Yeah. An actual data interchange spec would be nice. ..or just not abusing XML so badly it makes people cry when they see it. |
| 22:52.39 | Arrowmaster | you need somebody that understands php well to disect the ctrt import modules code to figure out exactly what kinda xml structure you need |
| 22:52.42 | fewyn | yea it's not working sigh... it's not taking the events that happened (aka boss kills) and giving dkp for it it's just trying to set the event |
| 22:53.19 | Arrowmaster | the retarded ctrt import module reads boss kills from the comment field instead of the <boss></boss> field afaik too |
| 22:53.32 | doom0r | still? |
| 22:53.34 | Arrowmaster | its just plain fucking stupid |
| 22:53.37 | doom0r | it did that over 2 years ago |
| 22:53.53 | Arrowmaster | you expect people to update it? |
| 22:53.56 | fewyn | see this is why i want to write my own |
| 22:53.57 | fewyn | sigh |
| 22:54.02 | Arrowmaster | i havent looked at it in 2 years either |
| 22:54.05 | fewyn | but i have no coding experience |
| 22:54.08 | Skellum | its def vehicles that fuck up pitbulls Rune frams |
| 22:54.17 | Codayus | fewyn: There's a bunch more cryptic eqdkp settings that might be the issue. Hm. I got eqdkp working right a long time ago, and now it's hard to recall what the magic was... |
| 22:54.41 | Pneumatus | i always recall having to hack eqdkp |
| 22:54.48 | doom0r | passes out Notepad++ to everyone |
| 22:54.50 | Arrowmaster | Skellum: the default ui rune frames still showing when using pitbull problem? |
| 22:54.51 | Codayus | fewyn: Whatever you do, don't try to learn by looking at the eqdkp code base. |
| 22:55.03 | harl | doom0r: to exchange parts of a sentence you like, huh? |
| 22:55.17 | Codayus | Also, notepad2 > notepad++ |
| 22:55.28 | Pneumatus | howso? |
| 22:55.46 | Skellum | yea arriw |
| 22:56.24 | Arrowmaster | Skellum: thats likely an issue with how the default ui works now, its really retarded with lots of hardcoded locations for animations |
| 22:56.44 | Skellum | I've seen people use the default blizz UI |
| 22:56.48 | Skellum | I dont understand how you can |
| 22:56.53 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 22:56.55 | Codayus | Pneumatus: Asking me? They use the same internal engine (scite), but I've had serious stability issues with notepad++, mostly relating to minimizing it causing it to crash. Notepad2 has all the features I need, and is a bit lighter/cleaner/stabler. |
| 22:57.11 | Skellum | BT4, Pitbull, Grid...all nessasary for me a lot of the time |
| 22:57.39 | Arrowmaster | scite is not an engine its an editor, the engine is scitella (sp) |
| 22:57.47 | Codayus | Arrowmaster: Damnit, you're right. |
| 22:57.55 | Codayus | Just woke up. I fail. :-( |
| 22:57.57 | Skellum | Arrow, Reload UI fixes its placement |
| 22:58.25 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r12 / (3 files in 1 directory): few bug fixes |
| 22:59.05 | harl | my favourite wow-friend (tank as well as healer) uses the default blizz UI, mainly, so, obviously, using a 1000 add-ons doesn't make one a better player. |
| 22:59.48 | WobWork | using addons however, can make you a more efficient player |
| 22:59.49 | harl | and it's not necessary for being one |
| 22:59.59 | WobWork | it's not about who's hardcore =P |
| 23:00.00 | ckknight | it _can_ make you a better player |
| 23:00.10 | ckknight | but it doesn't mean that crap players become awesome with them |
| 23:00.12 | WobWork | it's about me not wanting to have to spend the effort to be -that- good |
| 23:00.14 | ckknight | or awesome players become crap without |
| 23:00.20 | ckknight | it's about adjusting to your tools |
| 23:00.26 | WobWork | I want to play the game to have fun |
| 23:00.33 | Codayus | Especially for being a healer. There's no way to get around the fact that the default interface is not very efficiently for healing tasks. |
| 23:00.40 | ckknight | WobWork: I think there's a macro for that |
| 23:00.48 | harl | more efficient, that i agree with, but still, efficient enough without add-ons to be a better player than then many others of them |
| 23:00.49 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.50 | WobWork | The default interface is -terrible- for healing |
| 23:01.03 | harl | then=the |
| 23:01.06 | WobWork | harl: sure. But that takes effort |
| 23:01.12 | ckknight | unneeded effort |
| 23:01.16 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 23:01.32 | WobWork | It's like: I can walk to work |
| 23:01.36 | WobWork | or, I can take the train |
| 23:01.40 | WobWork | Both get me there |
| 23:01.40 | harl | effort is good. actually, the effort and thrill with being a tank is what makes tanking so attractive in my opinion. |
| 23:01.55 | WobWork | which one is more efficient, work wise? |
| 23:02.00 | Shefki | effort, tanking... did I miss the last couple months of the game? |
| 23:02.05 | WobWork | Shefki: yes |
| 23:02.09 | ckknight | turn off your sound, it'll make the game harder |
| 23:02.16 | ckknight | cover one of your eyes, it'll make the game harder |
| 23:02.19 | ckknight | use only one hand to play. |
| 23:02.21 | harl | Shefki: yea well, i'm referring to pre 3.0 |
| 23:02.26 | Codayus | If your already good at the game, and you don't mind playing "hard mode", and the content isn't really challenging...sure, heal with the default UI, and you'll be good enough, and hopefully your other healers will be good enough too, so it's all good... |
| 23:02.29 | ckknight | these will make the game harder, but why would you do that? |
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| 23:03.09 | Shefki | There's only one reason I see for playing with just the default UI and that's if you intend to be a pro-arena person. |
| 23:03.15 | WobWork | I would prefer to be able to enjoy the content, rather than concentrating on how to manage to do tasks in the heat of the moment |
| 23:03.18 | Shefki | Then you have to play with just the default UI. |
| 23:03.31 | Shefki | Otherwise, why make your life more difficult? /shrug |
| 23:03.32 | WobWork | of course, as a tank, I tend to spend a lot of time with my face in a crotch |
| 23:03.36 | Codayus | Heh |
| 23:03.41 | WobWork | (and not in the enjoyable way) |
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| 23:04.14 | WobWork | I was running heroic DTK last night >< |
| 23:04.20 | WobWork | first boss, I saw nothing =P |
| 23:04.22 | Codayus | And if you play a dot class without dot timers, well...no. Nobody is good enough to do that. :-/ |
| 23:04.31 | fewyn | hahahahaha |
| 23:04.32 | fewyn | Codayus |
| 23:04.36 | WobWork | "I'll just tank him in this room, I hope y'all can deal with the adds =P |
| 23:04.36 | fewyn | http://www.eqdkp-plus.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=519&t=25209 |
| 23:04.42 | fewyn | I got it |
| 23:04.47 | fewyn | you lead me on the right direction |
| 23:04.48 | harl | it's not about deliberately making ones like more difficult. i wouldn't want to miss most of the add-ons i use, but, still, i can very well understand people who prefer to use as few add-ons as possible from the beginning on. |
| 23:04.50 | fewyn | so thanks |
| 23:04.50 | Codayus | :-) |
| 23:05.13 | WobWork | harl: There's also addons that make -everyone else's- life easier |
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| 23:05.25 | WobWork | for one, I would like to hear announced when the tank's taunt fails |
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| 23:05.37 | Shefki | Ohh I hate those addons. |
| 23:05.39 | Codayus | harl: I know people who prefer to spec their "favorite" talent spec or talent tree, despite the fact that the current patch/content favours a different spec. |
| 23:05.54 | WobWork | Shefki: what class do you play? |
| 23:05.58 | doom0r | those warnings are very nice for multiple tank fights |
| 23:05.58 | Shefki | I'm a druid. |
| 23:06.00 | Codayus | I understand them. They're not "wrong". It's a game, you get what you want out of it...but... |
| 23:06.10 | WobWork | Shefki: sorry, what role do you play =) |
| 23:06.12 | Shefki | Those warnings are completely pointless. |
| 23:06.18 | Shefki | Resto Druid. |
| 23:06.27 | doom0r | how are they pointless |
| 23:06.28 | Codayus | Shefki: For healers, yes. For everyone else, no. |
| 23:06.29 | Shefki | a) You can see it on the threat meter. |
| 23:06.34 | WobWork | er |
| 23:06.34 | Shefki | b) You can see it with aggro coloring. |
| 23:06.39 | WobWork | I'm not looking at the threat meter =P |
| 23:06.49 | WobWork | I'm looking for mobs that suddenly run for the mage |
| 23:06.54 | doom0r | ^ |
| 23:06.55 | harl | Codayus: sounds a bit like i could like those people. i'm not the one playing with guides and stuff myself. |
| 23:06.57 | WobWork | I have no time to look at the threat meter =P |
| 23:07.09 | Shefki | Use a threat meter inlined into your unit frames. |
| 23:07.15 | WobWork | I can't target the running mob if I have to stare at the threat meter |
| 23:07.54 | WobWork | The whole point of those addons is to give warning to those who -can- react, to do so |
| 23:07.58 | krka | hmm... arena is always default ui? |
| 23:08.03 | WobWork | as a healer, you don't need to react |
| 23:08.11 | Shefki | If you really want to see resisted taunts, run an addon for yourself that announces them to you based off the CLEU. |
| 23:08.15 | WobWork | as a DPS or offtank, you do |
| 23:08.26 | harl | WobWork: and i agree, again, that there are things that can make playing very much easier for everyone, yet, it's just not everyone's way to use more than a hand full of add-ons and i respect that. |
| 23:08.30 | Shefki | Addons that put information in chat are freaking stupid IMHO. Because anything they can do is done better some other way. |
| 23:08.36 | doom0r | Shefki: if someone gains aggro and a taunt fails, what is quicker to react to, 1.) knowing the taunt failed and spammed in rw 2.) seeing the mob make it to the target |
| 23:08.36 | Aiiane | hmm... you know, that would be an interesting option for Grid |
| 23:08.45 | Codayus | harl: But it's suboptimal. So if you want to be as good as you can be...and many people do...then if you do that, your fail. |
| 23:08.45 | Aiiane | gradient-based coloring for threat levels |
| 23:08.52 | Xinhuan | Shefki: disagree - embedded threat meters in unit frames only work on the target you are targeting |
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| 23:09.06 | Xinhuan | not on any arbiturary target some tank is taunting and failed |
| 23:09.23 | WobWork | unless you're watching the tank's tot |
| 23:09.33 | Codayus | krka: No, but competions use default UI. |
| 23:09.33 | WobWork | which, you may not be, cause you're busy tanking something else =P |
| 23:09.40 | Shefki | Xinhuan: That was one way to see. |
| 23:09.43 | doom0r | threat meter doesn't tell you whether a tank wasted a taunt or not |
| 23:09.51 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 23:09.51 | krka | oh i see |
| 23:10.14 | WobWork | I'm not going to waste a taunt on a mob the MT can |
| 23:10.29 | doom0r | ^ reverse to situation, save a taunt |
| 23:10.34 | Shefki | So you guys aren't watching threat meters, but somehow you maange to read chat boxes? |
| 23:10.41 | WobWork | raid warning =) |
| 23:10.45 | doom0r | ^^ |
| 23:10.50 | WobWork | that's where most of the taunt resist messages go |
| 23:10.52 | Shefki | People put that in raid warnings? |
| 23:10.54 | WobWork | sure |
| 23:10.59 | Shefki | That's spam. |
| 23:11.02 | doom0r | no |
| 23:11.04 | WobWork | "ZOMG My taunt failed on <<MOB>>" |
| 23:11.09 | Codayus | Of course, you could always just glyph your taunt. :-p |
| 23:11.25 | WobWork | Codayus: and not stand in the white smoke =) |
| 23:11.35 | harl | i watch threat meters all the time. a fraction of my attention always goes to the omen bars. |
| 23:12.19 | Skellum | The strict indespensibility of omen went away in 3.0 |
| 23:12.27 | Codayus | I think most tanks don't bother to look at threat. Many don't even have the display open. It's basically 100% useless; you aren't going to go "omg, people catching up", you already are doing max TPS. |
| 23:12.29 | Antiarc | 3.0 made threat a joke |
| 23:12.39 | Antiarc | Omen is still useful for the warning sound |
| 23:12.40 | WobWork | What Cody said |
| 23:12.43 | Antiarc | But I never watch the meter |
| 23:12.50 | Xinhuan | that's because ther never designed any fight in 3.0 around thret |
| 23:12.51 | Antiarc | If I hear the warning, I vanish, and continue to maxxxdps |
| 23:12.52 | Xinhuan | threat |
| 23:12.58 | doom0r | I would agree with Codayus, except the fact that I play a paladin. |
| 23:13.03 | doom0r | Hand of Salvation |
| 23:13.03 | Xinhuan | ulduar might have some threat fights |
| 23:13.05 | WobWork | It's not my responsiblity, as the tank to be on top, cause that's what I should be doing anyway |
| 23:13.09 | Codayus | Ha, fair enough. |
| 23:13.20 | WobWork | hm, that was phrased badly |
| 23:13.44 | WobWork | The dps should have the responsiibility to not do more threat than I can put out. |
| 23:13.58 | WobWork | Cause I'll be putting out as much TPS as I possibly can |
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| 23:14.15 | Xinhuan | right now, raids are "introductory level" and managing threat isn't introductory |
| 23:14.19 | Shefki | I think it's simply ridiculous to spam information to people in chat messages that they could be getting on their own in whatever way they perfer. If someone wants to know about resisted taunts they shouldn't have an addon that alerts them to that and then it works for them always regardless if the tank has such an addon. |
| 23:14.28 | Shefki | In short I believe people should provide for themselves. |
| 23:14.34 | Shefki | Not depend upon the tanks running something. |
| 23:14.37 | WobWork | Shefki: of course, and -everyone- uses addons |
| 23:15.00 | Shefki | If they don't want that info they don't need to. If they do then it's their business to find a way to get it. |
| 23:15.08 | WobWork | Shefki: certainly, in a perfect world |
| 23:15.11 | doom0r | Shefki: that'd be nice if you just got dropped into a battlefield |
| 23:15.20 | doom0r | but this is a Raid situation we're talking about |
| 23:15.22 | doom0r | a group effort |
| 23:15.30 | WobWork | however, if you want this pug to succeed, you do everything you can to make it so |
| 23:15.31 | ckknight | PUG Raiding ftw! |
| 23:15.36 | Codayus | Heh, I ran with a tank who had an addon that whispered the mobs target whenever a taunt was resisted. Now THAT was annoying... |
| 23:15.38 | ckknight | :P |
| 23:15.54 | WobWork | "You're about to get your face eaten by <<MOB>>" |
| 23:16.00 | WobWork | "Ha ha" |
| 23:16.18 | Codayus | Yep. |
| 23:16.26 | harl | you don't have to fear to go "omg, people catching up" to have an eye for everyone's threat. especially, because there's still random aggro, aggro loss, aggro reset.. yea, and not everyone's using pitbull (or whatever) to see who's actually getting aggro. |
| 23:17.26 | WobWork | I admit, I often use Omen when I don't know the group I'm running with well, to see if I can up the threat on multiple targets more, so they don't peel off due to aoe |
| 23:18.06 | WobWork | but really, I expect the dps to deal with aggro management themselves |
| 23:18.33 | WobWork | or at least they learn quickly after they start aoeing before I have a solid grip on the mobs =) |
| 23:21.06 | pastamancer | Pneumatus: nope, that'll be fixed when 3.0.8 comes out, it's a blizzard bug |
| 23:21.08 | harl | basically, yes, but some don't. |
| 23:21.14 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: its fixed :o |
| 23:21.29 | pastamancer | Stanzilla: probably not, gratuity is ace3 and afaik works well |
| 23:21.36 | Pneumatus | just did a raid with the latest unitguid build, and it didnt error once |
| 23:21.59 | pastamancer | Pneumatus: nah, it just doesn't happen if you've already had that many pets since you last reloaded |
| 23:22.03 | Pneumatus | ah |
| 23:22.06 | Xinhuan | Pneumatus: try joining a raid while in battle |
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| 23:22.21 | Xinhuan | or having a hunter with a pet join the raid while u are in cmobat |
| 23:22.25 | Xinhuan | i gaurantee you will error |
| 23:22.54 | Pneumatus | fair enough, just thought it was weird i managed to make a whole raid without it erroring |
| 23:23.48 | pastamancer | I want to move to the new acelocale eventually, and at some point completely redo the configuration to get rid of dewdrop-2 and waterfall-1 |
| 23:24.04 | Aiiane | WobWork: agreed. on my lock I always kept track of how much of a threat lead I needed to give various tanks in my guild before I could open up with seeds |
| 23:24.54 | Fisker- | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 23:25.19 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming (2d 17h 51m 50s) #wowuidev (2d 17h 51m 50s) #wowace (2d 17h 51m 50s) #curseforge (2d 17h 51m 50s), last said: 'and if you're not using the latest version, you should udate.'. |
| 23:25.20 | doom0r | Fisker-: that way -----> |
| 23:25.52 | Fisker- | slaps doom0r around a bit with a large trout |
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| 23:36.41 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * a398edb / (16 files in 11 directories): [+1 commit] Get config mode working with party frames. |
| 23:41.26 | thul | I think I§ll get the titansteel helm |
| 23:43.57 | WobWork | have they made the new titansteel two handers non-bop? |
| 23:44.03 | thul | yeah |
| 23:44.05 | thul | i think? |
| 23:44.06 | thul | new? |
| 23:44.07 | thul | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.16 | WobWork | the ones intended for DK tanking |
| 23:44.28 | WobWork | well, maybe not intended |
| 23:44.32 | WobWork | but designed with them in mind |
| 23:44.36 | SunTsu | WobWork: Yeah, there was a blue post somewhere that BoP is a mistake on that tooltip |
| 23:44.44 | WobWork | SunTsu: Thank god =P |
| 23:44.52 | WobWork | is now saving his titansteel for that, then |
| 23:45.07 | SunTsu | WobWork: Well, they look exactly like the starting weapons on the images I seen, so.. ;) |
| 23:45.07 | thul | I don't know what is the best use of gold.. the titansteel helmet or the 2h :-P |
| 23:45.32 | SunTsu | WobWork: Well, I make a bar every day, and god knows when the patch comes.. |
| 23:45.39 | WobWork | SunTsu: same |
| 23:45.49 | WobWork | Are they also removing the TS cooldown in the patch? |
| 23:45.53 | WobWork | I vaugely recall that |
| 23:46.11 | SunTsu | WobWork: D'n'D cd and HB cd |
| 23:46.17 | SunTsu | IIRC |
| 23:46.21 | Fisker- | t |
| 23:46.25 | Fisker- | they're removing DnD CD? |
| 23:46.26 | Fisker- | nooooooooooooooooo |
| 23:46.30 | WobWork | crazy |
| 23:46.35 | WobWork | I knew about the HB one |
| 23:47.01 | SunTsu | Fisker-: I'm not too sure about that, and I am too lazy to search for it ;) |
| 23:47.02 | WobWork | can you imagine the coverage you could get with two D&D? |
| 23:47.15 | thul | D'n'D? |
| 23:47.20 | WobWork | Death and Decay |
| 23:47.35 | WobWork | Red boiling ground effect =P |
| 23:48.59 | thul | ah, ok, yeah, remove CD? |
| 23:49.00 | thul | interesting. |
| 23:49.07 | SunTsu | I really really wait for the patch, even with being unholy tank |
| 23:49.20 | thul | I'm looking forward to respecing blood and cleaving :-P |
| 23:49.24 | SunTsu | I need the rune and those weapons badly |
| 23:49.30 | thul | I'm running frost atm, I really like it. |
| 23:49.30 | Aiiane | I still liked the forum posts about that |
| 23:49.42 | Aiiane | "i swear if one more DK d&d's when not tanking they're getting gkicked" |
| 23:50.04 | ckknight | d&d? |
| 23:50.07 | ckknight | ah. |
| 23:50.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:50.09 | Aiiane | death and decay |
| 23:50.49 | SunTsu | Aiiane: What's so bad about it? |
| 23:51.18 | WobWork | it's an aggro aggregator |
| 23:51.35 | thul | I never use d&d when i'm not tanking |
| 23:51.36 | WobWork | but not really that bad, when the tank is in frost presence and puts it down himself |
| 23:51.39 | thul | but I am using the frost-aoe. |
| 23:51.44 | Skellum | It lowers your FPs, but its ery useful for building your RP |
| 23:51.50 | WobWork | but if they drop it and I haven't, then there's a problem |
| 23:51.53 | Antiarc | It shatters your FPS |
| 23:51.58 | Skellum | and its standered for AoE fighting |
| 23:52.09 | Aiiane | SunTsu: what they said about fps ^ |
| 23:52.16 | SunTsu | Aiiane: Hehe |
| 23:52.27 | Skellum | its actualy not DnD that does it |
| 23:52.30 | WobWork | cause really, there's -nothing- that can beat, IT, Pest, Deathchill, HB for spike aoe aggro gen |
| 23:52.38 | SunTsu | I really like tossing around DnD as often as I can ;) |
| 23:52.45 | Skellum | ITs the talent "Morbidity" Someone ran some tests and for some reason thats what causes the FPS loss |
| 23:52.59 | WobWork | oh that's right |
| 23:53.06 | WobWork | God knows -why- |
| 23:53.33 | WobWork | since all it does is reduce the CD on the skill |
| 23:53.56 | WobWork | (well, all it's -supposed- to do) |
| 23:54.06 | SunTsu | There are some strage bugs with DKs. My mining tracker resets to nothing from time to time. Only on my DK |
| 23:54.11 | [dRaCo] | probably alters the animation a little |
| 23:54.23 | Skellum | 15% more deathcoil damage, 15 seconds off DnD |
| 23:54.23 | WobWork | [dRaCo]: but why? |
| 23:54.30 | [dRaCo] | dunno... because? |
| 23:54.36 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 23:54.38 | Repo | Fix assertion failure resulting from cancel when no purchase is in progress. |
| 23:54.42 | WobWork | [dRaCo]: oh. |
| 23:54.46 | WobWork | Well in -that- case =P |
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| 23:55.53 | WobWork | I always get massive slowdowns in HoL, when I deathchil/HB the lava elementals |
| 23:55.54 | Skellum | because the WoTLk was extreamly rushed |
| 23:56.27 | [dRaCo] | got some people in my guild complaining about low fps there, too |
| 23:58.39 | Skellum | Heres some fun, wait till you're next wintergrasp is almost over. Those last 10 mins or so when everyones out on the keep |
| 23:58.49 | WobWork | then D&D =P |
| 23:58.56 | WobWork | and everyone doesn't get their tokens =P |
