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| 00:09.16 | Ackis | Xinhuan: have you done the wyrmrest daily achievement? |
| 00:09.16 | Skellum | Hey KOOLAID! |
| 00:09.20 | Skellum | Wait no..err Cknight |
| 00:09.30 | Skellum | pitbull4 near stable yet? |
| 00:09.37 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:09.52 | Ackis | Xinhuan: solo or did you have someone elp you? |
| 00:09.55 | Xinhuan | solo |
| 00:10.02 | Xinhuan | do it during offpeak, and u need some good luck as well |
| 00:10.08 | Xinhuan | between say 1-5 hours, you might get it |
| 00:10.33 | Ackis | *nod* I've been close but never gotten it =/ |
| 00:11.05 | Skellum | what are you going for? |
| 00:11.48 | Ackis | the mod overachiever is pretty wicked |
| 00:12.00 | ckknight | Skellum: first you must spell my name correctly. |
| 00:12.11 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1277 |
| 00:13.24 | Ackis | @project easyserum |
| 00:13.25 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/easyserum/. EasySerum. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author). Updated: 22 hours ago |
| 00:14.58 | Skellum | ckknight, is pb4 near stable? |
| 00:14.58 | ckknight | stable implies stagnation |
| 00:14.58 | ckknight | do you mean usable? |
| 00:15.01 | Skellum | usable without me wanting to kill orphans |
| 00:15.12 | ckknight | ...what if the orphans had it coming? |
| 00:15.17 | Stanzilla | only one or 2 orphans |
| 00:15.46 | ckknight | yea, as long as it's an acceptable number of orphans |
| 00:16.08 | ckknight | Skellum: raid support's not in yet, Shefki just put Aura stuff in, but not everything for that is in yet |
| 00:16.11 | ckknight | it's usable |
| 00:16.16 | ckknight | but not everything is available |
| 00:16.20 | ckknight | but most is |
| 00:18.04 | Skellum | so if i alreafdy use grid for my raid frames, I shouldnt notice anything? |
| 00:19.14 | ckknight | what do you mean by notice? |
| 00:19.27 | ckknight | your old config won't transfer, you'll have to set it up again |
| 00:19.32 | ckknight | it should be far easier, though |
| 00:20.36 | Skellum | stronger? More Agile? |
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| 00:20.50 | ckknight | we have the technology |
| 00:20.57 | ckknight | ...we just don't want to spend a lot of money |
| 00:22.55 | ckknight | Skellum: so my advice is to try it, see if you like it for 5 minutes |
| 00:23.01 | ckknight | worst case scenario, switch back |
| 00:30.31 | ckknight | if you do switch, make sure to provide suggestions |
| 00:32.51 | Shefki | I'd say it's useable to the point that I'm running around with it to do dailies but for anything important I'm still switching back to PB3. |
| 00:33.30 | Zhinjio | switches to his UI testing toon to play with it |
| 00:33.47 | Shefki | And that's more of a limitation of no raid frames and aura filters aren't in yet. |
| 00:38.33 | Zhinjio | wow. |
| 00:38.39 | Zhinjio | quite a lot of progress, ck |
| 00:38.40 | Ackis | don't know about you but I'm using PB5 |
| 00:39.28 | Shefki | Ackis: Screw that I'm playing WoW4.0. Emerald Dream is awesome btw. |
| 00:39.33 | Ackis | lol |
| 00:40.51 | amoeba | PB4 Aura Module working dandy so far |
| 00:41.43 | ckknight | you guys are such lamers |
| 00:41.46 | ckknight | WoW 5.0 is awesome |
| 00:41.49 | ckknight | Undermine is so cool |
| 00:42.12 | Shefki | Damnit ck, you promised to share your beta account with me for that. |
| 00:42.52 | Ackis | Zhinjio: you're alliance on blackrock rihgt? |
| 00:43.00 | Zhinjio | alliance on hellscream |
| 00:43.21 | Ackis | wow i fail |
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| 00:45.06 | Wizardling | G'day |
| 00:45.33 | ckknight | howdy, Wizardling |
| 00:45.49 | Wizardling | Is Prat http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/prat-3-0.aspx not fully functional under WotLK? |
| 00:45.52 | Shefki | ckknight: We need to add a short circuit for Portrait so that the animation actually plays for whacky frames. |
| 00:46.02 | Wizardling | many modules won't enable |
| 00:46.04 | Shefki | Wizardling: Works fine here. |
| 00:46.13 | ckknight | Shefki: it shouldn't update unless the GUID changes |
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| 00:46.38 | Wizardling | they're back to being disabled after restarting WoW |
| 00:47.06 | Wizardling | my first time trying out Prat so I'm not sure if their functionality is working at all |
| 00:47.18 | Zhinjio | ckknight: where do you want bug reported? or do you even on an alpha build? |
| 00:47.37 | ckknight | Zhinjio: yea, report bugs on the pitbull4 project |
| 00:47.38 | Shefki | ckknight: Well something is causing the portraits to constantly jump back to the start of the animation. I'm assuming that the tight loop around whacky frames are causing it to constantly reset the 3d viewer. |
| 00:47.49 | ckknight | Shefki: weird |
| 00:47.49 | Shefki | Zhinjio: He means open tickets there. |
| 00:47.52 | ckknight | that's a bug, then |
| 00:48.15 | Shefki | Yeah someone mentioned it on the forums. |
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| 00:48.59 | Shefki | Portraits have always kinda sucked... |
| 00:49.13 | Zhinjio | posted |
| 00:49.37 | Zhinjio | is there a "quick key" for opening the config like alt-clicking the frame used to? |
| 00:49.39 | onaforeignshore | I had the problem with Prat, which is why I switched to Chatter |
| 00:49.48 | Wizardling | Also in Pitbull I cannot seem to set main tank and assist frame sizes separately from Raid frame size. How can I do this, please? |
| 00:50.02 | Wizardling | I might try WIM |
| 00:50.06 | Shefki | Wizardling: Adjust them and reload. |
| 00:50.07 | ckknight | Wizardling: you wait for PitBull4 to implement raid frames |
| 00:50.09 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:50.10 | ckknight | ah |
| 00:50.15 | Wizardling | it's fairly well liked from what I can see |
| 00:50.24 | Shefki | Wizardling: It changes the size of the other frames but it does actually separately resize them. |
| 00:50.30 | ckknight | Wizardling: I like Chatter for chat |
| 00:50.36 | onaforeignshore | Wizardling: WIM is for whispers, Prat is for all channels... nothing alike |
| 00:50.47 | Wizardling | I set a size for raid frames, then tried to change main assist, etc |
| 00:50.49 | onaforeignshore | Chatter and Prat are for the same thing |
| 00:50.53 | Wizardling | wouldn't happen |
| 00:51.06 | Wizardling | Is absolutely looking forward to Piybull 4 :-) |
| 00:51.15 | Shefki | Wizardling: Well at this point no bugs are being fixed in PB3 since we're working on PB4. |
| 00:51.22 | Wizardling | ahk |
| 00:51.36 | Wizardling | is PB4 well along enough for me to try? |
| 00:51.48 | Shefki | Sure but there's no raid frames yet. |
| 00:51.55 | Wizardling | god knows I welcome increased simplicity :-) |
| 00:52.15 | Wizardling | I'm in addon hell after returning to WoW from a six month beak |
| 00:52.22 | Wizardling | ace updater is gone |
| 00:52.33 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 00:52.39 | Wizardling | everything's broken either by time or WotLK |
| 00:52.43 | ckknight | Wizardling: you could try Grid for raid frames |
| 00:52.56 | Wizardling | I knew it wouldn't be fun |
| 00:53.01 | Bruners | perfectraid ! |
| 00:53.03 | Wizardling | I thought of Grid |
| 00:53.08 | Wizardling | might try it out |
| 00:53.25 | Wizardling | I'm thinking of making a healer or two this time |
| 00:53.26 | Xinhuan | or you can install xperl, and turn off every module except xperl core and xperl raid frames ;p |
| 00:53.47 | Aiiane | i find Grid useful even for non-healers |
| 00:53.57 | ckknight | funny thing: on the PitBull4 tickets, someone voted down support for raid frames |
| 00:53.59 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:54.04 | Aiiane | who? |
| 00:54.07 | Wizardling | I wonder if I could live with JUST Grid? |
| 00:54.15 | Wizardling | nothing else, nada |
| 00:54.33 | ckknight | Aiiane: ah, I forget, it's still up there |
| 00:54.40 | ckknight | @project pitbull4 |
| 00:54.44 | ckknight | Wizardling: doubtful |
| 00:54.45 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author), vangual (Author). Updated: 71 minutes ago. Tickets: 24/51 |
| 00:54.48 | Aiiane | Wizardling: I'd want at least something to display buffs |
| 00:54.58 | Aiiane | and something to display target info |
| 00:55.02 | Aiiane | neither of which grid does |
| 00:55.04 | ckknight | Priscylla |
| 00:55.04 | ckknight | Votes -3 |
| 00:55.29 | Ackis | http://zip.4chan.org/x/src/1231631579348.jpg |
| 00:55.29 | Aiiane | Wizardling: you *could* however get away with a HUD addon + Grid |
| 00:55.45 | Wizardling | I'm thinking MetaHUD and Grid |
| 00:55.49 | ckknight | you can turn PitBull4 into a HUD |
| 00:55.51 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:56.09 | Wizardling | sorry - I meant no unit frames in the traditional sense, not nothing :-) |
| 00:56.11 | ckknight | Wizardling: what class do you play? |
| 00:56.32 | Wizardling | I did play Shaman, Hunter, Priest and Warlock |
| 00:56.59 | Wizardling | just started a new Hunter |
| 00:57.10 | Wizardling | but all I've done in three days is try out addons and try to configure them |
| 00:57.13 | Wizardling | :-D |
| 00:57.21 | Wizardling | still, got to get it over with |
| 00:57.23 | ckknight | the next step is writing you own |
| 00:57.24 | ckknight | your* |
| 00:57.27 | Aiiane | heh |
| 00:57.34 | Wizardling | I know I'll never be happy without my UI 'just so' |
| 00:58.00 | Wizardling | Can also ask - is Fubar's future rosy? |
| 00:58.02 | Bruners | Ackis: haha, that one was good |
| 00:58.18 | Wizardling | I'm seeing Broker addons everywhere |
| 00:58.30 | ckknight | Wizardling: I need to make FuBar support broker plugins |
| 00:58.33 | ckknight | by default |
| 00:58.42 | ckknight | or convince someone else to |
| 00:58.57 | Wizardling | I see there's a Broker -> Fubar addon |
| 00:59.02 | ckknight | Wizardling: since getting a real job, I've had different priorities |
| 00:59.12 | Wizardling | understandable |
| 00:59.20 | Wizardling | I'm out of work right now |
| 00:59.25 | Wizardling | thus WoW again! LOL |
| 00:59.38 | Ackis | is there a curse/wowace steam community? :P |
| 00:59.41 | Wizardling | Of course I hope all this spare time to play doesn't last... |
| 01:00.15 | Bruners | ckknight: isnt broker2fubar doing the trick? |
| 01:00.20 | Xinhuan | ckknight, fubar probably would benefit more from a full rewrite |
| 01:00.25 | ckknight | yea, but it should be in FuBar itself, Bruners |
| 01:00.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I agree. |
| 01:00.27 | Wizardling | as for writing my own addons... mmm, I've only every done some VERY simple Pascal and Basic programming, and some AppleScripting |
| 01:00.41 | Wizardling | I don't think I have the skills |
| 01:01.05 | ckknight | knowledge is power |
| 01:01.10 | Bruners | i dont have the skills, but i'm doing it anyway :P |
| 01:01.12 | Ackis | it's not what you know, it's how good you can copy |
| 01:01.33 | Wizardling | I was surprised to see Tiranbars supports broker. But I do prefer Fubar. I'm surprised Titan is still alive |
| 01:01.44 | Wizardling | *Titanbars |
| 01:02.32 | ckknight | Ackis: good artists copy. great artists steal |
| 01:02.40 | Wizardling | grins |
| 01:03.10 | Wizardling | hmmm... no mana tap nowadays for Blood Elves? |
| 01:03.10 | Ackis | ckknight: better artists get other people to do their work? |
| 01:03.10 | ckknight | a la Thomas Edison |
| 01:03.10 | ckknight | great inventor, eh? |
| 01:03.10 | Wizardling | they've been nerfed? |
| 01:03.13 | ckknight | he was a very shrewd businessman |
| 01:03.23 | Bruners | Wizardling: its included into one spell |
| 01:03.25 | doom0r | great artists borrow, turn a profit, then claim orginal work |
| 01:03.30 | Bruners | Wizardling: when you use the silence you get mana |
| 01:03.40 | Wizardling | Hmmm... interesting |
| 01:03.49 | Zhinjio | ckknight: is there a "fullbar" equivalent for creating empty space? |
| 01:03.54 | Wizardling | Well I'll have to remake my 'lock and see |
| 01:03.57 | Bruners | Wizardling: so really they buffed it :P |
| 01:03.58 | ckknight | Zhinjio: need to add one. file a ticket |
| 01:04.04 | Zhinjio | or what is this "whacky" layout y'all keep talking about |
| 01:04.09 | Ackis | Zhinjio: don't you read tells in game? |
| 01:04.25 | Wizardling | one last question - any RPers here? |
| 01:04.26 | ckknight | Zhinjio: you could do it yourself, it's just a status_bar module where :GetValue always returns 1 |
| 01:04.44 | Wizardling | I'm determined to join a RP-PvE realm this time |
| 01:05.02 | Bruners | do people RP on RP-servers? |
| 01:05.12 | ckknight | Bruners: they use complete sentences |
| 01:05.14 | ckknight | RPing is optional |
| 01:05.27 | ckknight | oh, and spelling's important |
| 01:05.33 | Shefki | Zhinjio: Some frames are considered whacky, in that Blizzard doesn't give us events for them so we have to handle finding out when to update them on our own. |
| 01:05.40 | Xinhuan | ckknight, the thing about fubar rewrite though, is the complexity of backwards compat with plugin-2/3 |
| 01:05.48 | ckknight | yea... |
| 01:06.01 | Wizardling | I've been hanging around in Feathermoon server for three days sorting out addons and not seen a single person RPing :-( |
| 01:06.12 | Wizardling | granted I am in newbie zone |
| 01:06.12 | ckknight | I like that I'm able to do a full rewrite of PitBull, since it's a closed system |
| 01:06.14 | ckknight | unlike FuBar |
| 01:06.18 | doom0r | forget compat, make something simpler and people will upgrade |
| 01:06.28 | Bruners | Xinhuan: do you really really it backwards? |
| 01:06.47 | ckknight | I accidentally the whole compat |
| 01:06.47 | Xinhuan | you see the problem with fubar is why does it even have "plugin2/3" in the first place |
| 01:06.49 | Bruners | that was one messed up sentence |
| 01:06.54 | Xinhuan | fubar should have just come with itinternally |
| 01:07.02 | Xinhuan | so that those 10000 plugins out there don't have to embed the lib |
| 01:07.29 | ckknight | the idea was that those plugins wouldn't have to require FuBar |
| 01:07.30 | ckknight | and such |
| 01:07.33 | ckknight | le sigh |
| 01:07.34 | ckknight | one can dream |
| 01:07.42 | Xinhuan | i don't think that turned out too well tbh ;p |
| 01:07.45 | Xinhuan | do u agree? hehe |
| 01:08.27 | ckknight | at least now we have a proper options frame |
| 01:08.36 | ckknight | FuBar was used as just an options deal for the longest time |
| 01:09.25 | Xinhuan | its options convenience is still > blizz options frame |
| 01:09.48 | Wizardling | ckknight - you should release your own UI once your major projects are updated. |
| 01:10.03 | ckknight | what would I gain, Wizardling? |
| 01:10.11 | doom0r | support tickets! |
| 01:10.14 | Wizardling | I'd jump at the chance given almost all of your addons are worth using |
| 01:10.20 | ckknight | I'd force people into one specific system |
| 01:10.25 | ckknight | I don't think that's a good idea |
| 01:10.28 | Wizardling | meh :-D |
| 01:10.32 | ckknight | I prefer to keep a level of fluidity |
| 01:10.45 | Wizardling | I'm off to bed now and looking forward to a forth day of addon hell |
| 01:10.48 | doom0r | Wizardling: look at people that write individual addons, look at their UI, a good portion of them have horrible UI's |
| 01:11.08 | Wizardling | I'll take such a system being forced upon me, heh |
| 01:11.09 | ckknight | I don't even play WoW |
| 01:11.34 | Wizardling | blinks |
| 01:11.46 | Wizardling | You used to, I assume? |
| 01:11.52 | Wizardling | obviously... |
| 01:12.12 | ckknight | for about a month |
| 01:12.15 | ckknight | that was 2 years ago |
| 01:12.19 | Wizardling | ... |
| 01:12.21 | ckknight | well, early 2006 |
| 01:12.28 | Wizardling | Well you're a nutter ;-) |
| 01:12.29 | ckknight | coding is more fun |
| 01:12.42 | Wizardling | but thanks! |
| 01:12.51 | Wizardling | :-D |
| 01:12.59 | ckknight | genius is entrenched in obsession, Wizardling |
| 01:13.07 | Wizardling | most addon writers I've met are still active players |
| 01:13.22 | Wizardling | otherwise they lose interest in updating their works |
| 01:13.39 | Wizardling | so you're obviously nuts to continue regardless ;-) |
| 01:13.57 | Ackis | yes he's nuts |
| 01:14.05 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:14.15 | ckknight | I do other stuff now, though |
| 01:14.18 | ckknight | like write wowace.com |
| 01:14.25 | Zhinjio | per bar textures. hawt |
| 01:14.27 | Wizardling | and I'm going nuts... arrrgh... WIM is a piece of unmentionables... |
| 01:14.32 | Wizardling | Of to bed for real |
| 01:14.43 | Wizardling | Bye and thanks for the help :-) |
| 01:14.52 | ckknight | Zhinjio: I think I did that cause you filed the ticket |
| 01:14.57 | ckknight | Zhinjio: there's also per-text fonts and such |
| 01:16.02 | Zhinjio | yes, thanks. |
| 01:16.43 | ckknight | Zhinjio: I also added indicator offset stuff |
| 01:16.47 | ckknight | and such |
| 01:17.08 | ckknight | there still is some rigidity to it, though |
| 01:17.38 | Zhinjio | yup |
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| 01:27.01 | Gagorian | .. Well the SG: A finale was pretty shit. Anyone else agree? |
| 01:27.18 | Shefki | Yup |
| 01:28.20 | Shefki | Let's make the bad guys suddenly arbitrarily harder to kill and magically give them the cordinates of earth. |
| 01:28.32 | Gagorian | <spoilers> Wormhole drive? A puny squadron of 302's protecting the chair? They didn't use the chair to protect itself? Why didn't they just send a nuke through the gate? |
| 01:29.20 | Shefki | Well wormhole drive is a setup for SG: U |
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| 01:29.46 | Gagorian | Why did they even have to introduce it in SG:A? Could've done that just as well in SG:U |
| 01:30.05 | ckknight | Of the four Star shows, Trek, Wars, Gate, and Search, Stargate has to be my third favorite. |
| 01:30.06 | Shefki | Gagorian: SciFi wouldn't pay for two SG series. |
| 01:30.38 | Shefki | SG: U replaces the entire cast, so they can hire cheap unknowns again. |
| 01:30.39 | Gagorian | My point was that why the hell did they have to make it such a sudden deus ex machina |
| 01:30.54 | Gagorian | They could've just introduced wormhole drive in the first episodes of SG:U |
| 01:31.27 | Shefki | Gagorian: Hurry to shove the last episode out the door and had a ton of stuff to do in it. |
| 01:31.42 | Gagorian | Exactly why it was shit |
| 01:32.07 | Shefki | Ohh and they didn't find out SG:A was canceled until 75% of the season was in the can already. |
| 01:32.09 | Gagorian | A highly experimental and dangerous technology and Radek whipped it into working condition in a no time |
| 01:32.12 | Shefki | Which kinda ties the writers hands. |
| 01:32.55 | Shefki | Frankly I blame SciFi for ruining the SG shows. |
| 01:33.00 | Gagorian | Well if they had for example, not introduced wormhole drive at all and instead made atlantis show up in the nick of time with conventional hyperdrive? |
| 01:33.04 | Gagorian | Way more believable |
| 01:33.20 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia 06starinnia * r74 / (4 files in 3 directories): more adjustments for modularization |
| 01:33.30 | Gagorian | If that's the correct word to use for sci-fi show |
| 01:33.33 | onaforeignshore | SG:U? |
| 01:33.39 | Gagorian | Stargate Universe |
| 01:33.41 | Shefki | Which is why I refuse to watch anything on SciFi anymore. |
| 01:33.53 | Shefki | Except for Stargate. |
| 01:34.09 | Shefki | They took an excellent show and cash cow for them and started treating it like it was just another crappy show. |
| 01:34.53 | onaforeignshore | which is different from what they always do in what way? ;p |
| 01:35.12 | Gagorian | Well the entire finale had way too many plotholes to be even enjoyable |
| 01:35.18 | onaforeignshore | they're like M$ - take something that works and try to break it |
| 01:35.27 | Shefki | Frankly SG took SciFi from a crappy cable channel playing reruns of SciFi stuff and made for TV movies and turned it into a source for new scifi. |
| 01:35.46 | Shefki | For a while they seemed to understand that good quality original shows were a good thing. |
| 01:35.56 | onaforeignshore | well, I'm off to bed. have fun people |
| 01:36.00 | Shefki | Now they just want more crappy content to toss up there that's cheap. |
| 01:36.50 | Shefki | At least we hopefully stil have the straight to DVD movies. |
| 01:40.42 | Shefki | On other fronts I predict Stargate Worlds sucks ass and is shut down within 2 years of launch. |
| 01:46.44 | Cryect | They actually still developing Stargate Worlds though? |
| 01:47.11 | Cryect | I mean I know they said they were going without money but how long |
| 01:47.52 | Cryect | 58 days without pay is fairly long time |
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| 01:55.17 | Repo | MalygosHelper: Final final fix for sorting func, your bar should really really be at the top now... yup yup. |
| 01:57.25 | Repo | 10malygos-helper: 03Zeksie 04Release 1 * r10 : Tagging as Release 1 |
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| 02:00.14 | gix | hm. actually i was mistaken. the client doesn't show required arena ratings in item tooltips. only on vendor item tooltips. no wonder i didn't find anything |
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| 02:03.30 | Xinhuan | @project malygos-helper |
| 02:03.32 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/malygos-helper/. MalygosHelper. Game: WoW. Zeksie (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 minutes ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 02:04.45 | Xinhuan | zeksie is that meant to be for raid leading use lol |
| 02:04.48 | Xinhuan | bah, not in channel |
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| 02:10.28 | Zhinjio | back |
| 02:10.30 | Zhinjio | bah |
| 02:10.35 | Shefki | Cryect: As far as I knew they were. |
| 02:11.26 | Shefki | Cryect: Seems like a horrible projects. People need to stop trying to take movies/tv shows and turning them into MMOs. There's too many sacred cows to be able to do it right. |
| 02:13.16 | Ackis | sopranos mmo would be win |
| 02:13.23 | Zhinjio | ckknight: is the intent to be able to enable/disable modules on a per-layout basis |
| 02:13.32 | ckknight | you can do it globally or per-layout |
| 02:13.40 | Shefki | Ackis: That's unique enough it might actually work. |
| 02:14.02 | Ackis | Shefki: think gta online? |
| 02:14.25 | Shefki | Pretty much what I imagined you were saying. |
| 02:14.51 | Shefki | As long as you can walk up to another play and just whack them because you want to it'd be cool. |
| 02:15.10 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I got the globally thing. disabling it there removes it from everything. |
| 02:15.16 | ckknight | right |
| 02:15.29 | Zhinjio | but I meant, right now I only see "Background" and "highlight" in the layout disable/enable |
| 02:15.36 | Zhinjio | is the intent to have them all there eventually? |
| 02:15.45 | Zhinjio | or is that just the ones that aren't already in another section? |
| 02:15.58 | Shefki | That's just the ones that aren't elsewhere. |
| 02:16.12 | ckknight | Zhinjio: what do you want to disable. |
| 02:16.13 | ckknight | ? |
| 02:17.06 | ckknight | Shefki: I might rename that section back to other |
| 02:17.07 | ckknight | :P |
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| 02:17.44 | rndmntngnt | heya all |
| 02:17.50 | Shefki | ckknight: Yeah I guess. |
| 02:18.00 | Zhinjio | hmm, for example, I will only have the xp bar on a pet frame |
| 02:18.10 | Zhinjio | so there will be a layout specific to that one frame |
| 02:18.27 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:18.37 | Shefki | Zhinjio: Most of the modules go into the appropriate tab. |
| 02:18.47 | Shefki | Modules is the catch all for everything else. |
| 02:18.48 | Zhinjio | yeah, I see htat. |
| 02:18.51 | ckknight | Zhinjio: Bars -> Experience -> Enable |
| 02:18.54 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 02:18.56 | Zhinjio | I see that |
| 02:18.58 | Shefki | I hated Other so ck renamed it to Modules. |
| 02:19.18 | Zhinjio | I guess its just the ones that don't plug nicely into another config section that get dumped in "MOdules" |
| 02:19.22 | ckknight | Misc.? |
| 02:19.22 | Zhinjio | I get. just curious |
| 02:19.23 | ckknight | :P |
| 02:19.34 | Shefki | ckknight: That's kinda what I was thinking. |
| 02:19.49 | ckknight | everything can be filed under Miscellaneous |
| 02:20.08 | Shefki | Well everything can be filed under Other (and was in PB3) |
| 02:20.16 | ckknight | :P |
| 02:20.36 | ckknight | yea, and now there's just Highlight and Background |
| 02:20.40 | ckknight | though Spark should go under there, too |
| 02:20.42 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 02:20.54 | Shefki | ckknight: It does if it's enabled. |
| 02:20.58 | ckknight | hmm |
| 02:20.59 | ckknight | okay |
| 02:21.03 | Zhinjio | had a thought, and then vetoed it. *grin* |
| 02:21.10 | ckknight | there it is |
| 02:21.35 | Shefki | BTW just wanna repeat how much I love Config mode and lock being visible always. |
| 02:21.55 | Shefki | Always hated having to navigate back to that when I was done messing with something. |
| 02:22.02 | rndmntngnt | guys I just had the most scariest thing happen just now, while in lowbie area, a lvl 1 toon which is clearly a bot echoed back my username and password in /s :( |
| 02:22.34 | Shefki | So go change it. |
| 02:22.36 | Shefki | Why tell us? |
| 02:23.15 | Zhinjio | I was hoping for per-frame locks |
| 02:23.17 | Shefki | ckknight: I finally set an icon for wowace for you. |
| 02:23.19 | Zhinjio | but meh, not a huge deal |
| 02:23.26 | ckknight | hurrah |
| 02:23.39 | Shefki | I was lazy and just grabed the orly owl. |
| 02:23.57 | Shefki | But you can stop bugging me about it now. |
| 02:23.59 | ckknight | Zhinjio: yea, I see no real reason for that |
| 02:24.11 | ckknight | Shefki: ah yea, I did see that, thought it was funny |
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| 02:24.21 | Shefki | Yeah I can't really fathom the need for per frame locks. |
| 02:24.31 | Shefki | Seemed fitting for being on tickets. :P |
| 02:24.38 | rndmntngnt | Shekfi: because this is only happened with in hours of using the curse updater, my system ridiculous amount of security and Im definite sure its no coincedence but if you guys dont give a shit about the vulnerability within curse updater fine |
| 02:25.02 | Zhinjio | its not the curse updater |
| 02:25.04 | Shefki | Somehow I saw this coming. |
| 02:25.12 | rndmntngnt | just thought you guys might have any ideas of any bot capable |
| 02:25.33 | ckknight | it's not the curse updater |
| 02:25.34 | Shefki | rndmntngnt: We're addon authors, not wow cracking experts. |
| 02:25.51 | Shefki | Unless of course you got a curse updater from somewhere other than curse. |
| 02:25.52 | ckknight | yea, we don't "do" keyloggers |
| 02:25.53 | Shefki | Then who knows. |
| 02:27.26 | Xinhuan | rndmntngnt, do you use a g15 keyboard and macro login? ;p |
| 02:27.27 | amoeba | Is your username and password 'ni hao' ? |
| 02:27.32 | Xinhuan | i've seen people being dumb about that one |
| 02:27.55 | ckknight | what browser do you use, rndmntngnt? |
| 02:28.13 | quiescens | lynx |
| 02:28.14 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan: me too. one person who used to accidentally hit that about once a week too. He just wouldn't get the hint |
| 02:28.15 | rndmntngnt | It is possible to inject bad packets into addons as they are getting xferred from the curse updater to your computer |
| 02:28.16 | Xinhuan | and macro their user/pass and accidentally use it in places they didn't want to |
| 02:28.28 | Xinhuan | and of course, the fact that such macro aren't secure either |
| 02:28.28 | rndmntngnt | Xinhuan: got g15 but no macros at all |
| 02:28.36 | Shefki | rndmntngnt: Umm what. |
| 02:28.41 | rndmntngnt | ckknight: firefox thats updated |
| 02:28.47 | ckknight | hmm |
| 02:28.53 | Shefki | rndmntngnt: Even if were true. What good would it do them? |
| 02:29.05 | Shefki | Wow doesn't run any executeables that are downloaded, neither does CC. |
| 02:29.05 | Zhinjio | rndmntngnt: get teh security keyfob |
| 02:29.28 | Shefki | So you'd have to go into the folder that CC extracted and manually run the executable that they inserted into the packets. |
| 02:30.21 | Xinhuan | also wow addons have no capability to detect your user/pass, unless you actually typed that somewhere in game yourself |
| 02:30.24 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis * r134 locales (2 files in 1 directory): zhTW and zhCN updates |
| 02:30.30 | amoeba | It seems inexpicable to me that a person would 1) have your login/password and 2) being running around as a low level knowing it and /say it to you |
| 02:30.43 | amoeba | And what do you mean 'echo back'? |
| 02:30.50 | Shefki | Yeah sounds like a very poor cracker to me. |
| 02:31.10 | amoeba | Why would you have someone's password and not be on their account? |
| 02:31.12 | Shefki | If I were cracking I wouldn't want my victims to know that I had their info until after I stole their crap. |
| 02:31.29 | quiescens | gasp |
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| 02:31.30 | quiescens | reported |
| 02:31.49 | ckknight | ...why would someone /say your username and password? what does that accomplish them? |
| 02:31.57 | amoeba | I have to go get drunk. Good luck rndmntngnt |
| 02:32.53 | Zhinjio | wowace hanging for anyone else? |
| 02:33.00 | *** join/#wowace mort (n=mort@azureus/mort) |
| 02:33.12 | Zhinjio | I blame Ackis' commit |
| 02:33.28 | rndmtngnt_ | sorry just dsc, guys Im just trying to figure out how this could be possible so to ensure doenst happen again, I need to estabalished if any bad code can travell with out anyones knowledge with addons |
| 02:33.53 | rndmtngnt_ | ckknight: to harvest the password I guess into a text file for later use |
| 02:33.55 | Bruners | not from curse |
| 02:33.55 | Xinhuan | that's irrelevant |
| 02:34.16 | Xinhuan | because addon code can only be run by wow |
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| 02:34.25 | Xinhuan | and wow doesn't let addons detect user/pass |
| 02:34.48 | rndmtngnt_ | not saying it is from curse, Im trying to establish if the curse updater has a buffer overflow vulnerability of some sort |
| 02:34.52 | Bruners | and addons doesnt get loaded before you choose character |
| 02:35.13 | Xinhuan | i'm trying to point out that even if such a vulnerability exists, it has nothing to do with your addons |
| 02:35.26 | amoeba | Buffer overflow? *cringe* |
| 02:35.39 | rndmtngnt_ | Xinhuan: ok no worries thanks thats all needed to know |
| 02:35.40 | Shefki | rndmntngnt: Buff overflow from what? |
| 02:36.11 | Bruners | rndmtngnt_: as i'm guessing you have changed your password, what was the old one ? |
| 02:36.17 | Shefki | rndmntngnt: What data is the client getting that someone could create data that would cause an overflow? |
| 02:36.42 | Xinhuan | [1/11 10:30:26] <amoeba> And what do you mean 'echo back'? |
| 02:37.03 | Shefki | rndmntngnt: Honestly, you know just enough about security to sound convincing to people who have no clue. At this point I think you're trolling. |
| 02:37.44 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 * r102 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:37.47 | Repo | Elephant: Adding BBCode support into Copy Window (= copy/paste directly into a forum!). |
| 02:38.37 | Cryect | <Ackis> Shefki: think gta online? |
| 02:38.40 | Cryect | you mean APB? :-p |
| 02:38.47 | Zhinjio | holy shit. |
| 02:39.06 | rndmtngnt_ | Shefki: I dont know man, maybe someone can add/modify addon source beta code into legitmate addon code without you guys knowing someone elses code was inserted, my curse updater auto updates my computer with this code. |
| 02:39.27 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I have no idea what made this happen, but this error occurred 1302 times: |
| 02:39.28 | amoeba | Source beta code? Legitimate addon code? |
| 02:39.30 | Zhinjio | http://www.wowace.com/paste/117/ |
| 02:39.30 | Cryect | was disappointed I miss that presentation at GDC last year forget what I was in |
| 02:39.31 | rndmtngnt_ | Im not trolling all Im trying to do is estabalish if my addons can be at fault |
| 02:39.32 | Bruners | and this code would steal your password how? |
| 02:39.33 | Shefki | a) Lua code can't get your password, you've been told this already. |
| 02:39.48 | ckknight | there is no error message |
| 02:39.56 | Zhinjio | one sec. |
| 02:40.05 | rndmtngnt_ | ok thanks guys thats all I need to be reassured |
| 02:40.11 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 02:40.37 | Shefki | b) Even if someone tried to put some naughty bits in an addon. Curse/Wowace has checks to prevent this. |
| 02:40.52 | Zhinjio | sorry |
| 02:40.57 | Zhinjio | it was scrolled down |
| 02:41.00 | Zhinjio | fixt |
| 02:41.06 | Cryect | Not if it takes advantage of a buffer overflow in a file format that wow uses |
| 02:41.07 | doom0r | sandbox |
| 02:41.08 | rndmtngnt_ | Shefki: ok cool thanks thats all I needed to know |
| 02:41.10 | Torhal | I'm constantly amazed at the number of people who have no idea that addons are merely scripts which the game itself runs. |
| 02:41.26 | Shefki | c) Curse client itself doesn't actually execute any arbitrary code, it just extracts stuff for wow to run in its environment. The environment that has no access to your password anyway (see a) |
| 02:41.27 | Torhal | There are actually people who will not run addons because they think it's a hack to the WoW client |
| 02:41.38 | Xinhuan | i don't know if you get it, but even if there are naughty code in addons, wow doesn't allow addons to ever obtain user/pass in any manner |
| 02:41.45 | rndmtngnt_ | It still got me beat how my user nams and passwords can showing to everyone like that just by a bot whispering me |
| 02:41.54 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I anchored the portrait to the middle of the castbar, and targetted someone. |
| 02:41.56 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis * r135 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 02:41.58 | Repo | Remove externals, embed babblezone/boss to ease on translations |
| 02:41.59 | Zhinjio | I had config mode to solo |
| 02:42.05 | Zhinjio | I have no idea what caused uit though |
| 02:42.13 | Cryect | Yeah no way to get the password unless you are able to load a trojan into their computer through an exploit then record the password next time they login |
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| 02:42.17 | rndmtngnt_ | thanks atleast now Im convinced addons are not too blame |
| 02:42.19 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Auto-targeting! :D |
| 02:42.22 | ckknight | Zhinjio: paste the full error? |
| 02:42.27 | Shefki | d) Anything is possible, there might be a new exploit in the game code that allows something to happen. But if there is such a thing we don't know about it. And I'm sure Blizzard would be warning us and taking steps to stop it. |
| 02:42.36 | Zhinjio | I fixed the pastey, ck |
| 02:42.51 | Xinhuan | now if an addon somehow does manage to get your user/pass, it would have to be via an external method, such as some trojan modifying your addon files |
| 02:43.19 | Bruners | rndmtngnt_: my bet is that a friend of you that knows your login details is playing a prank on you |
| 02:43.32 | Cryect | heh, well the game last I checked behaved in not very nice ways on malformed files. Maybe they have file validation to ensure it won't use bad files now though |
| 02:43.55 | Cryect | But anytime you can make a program crash from bad data its not a good sign |
| 02:44.01 | Xinhuan | like i said, the most likely thing that would have happened is you have a g15 macro with user/pass, and you hit it accidentally while in game ;p |
| 02:44.02 | Bruners | rndmtngnt_: how and why would anyone set up a bot to find you and type your login details in say |
| 02:44.10 | rndmtngnt_ | Bruners: not possible Im very paranoid when comes to security never give my user and password to anyone, its changed atleast once a month and it echoed back all 3 of my accounts |
| 02:44.27 | Xinhuan | and you still haven't said what "echo back" means |
| 02:44.42 | Xinhuan | you said Hi to a bot and it told you your password? |
| 02:44.43 | Cryect | Heh we've had someone in guild accidently message the wrong person his username/password :-p |
| 02:44.44 | Shefki | Echo implies that you gave it to them in the first place. |
| 02:45.55 | Xinhuan | "echo" by definition means to repeat what you just said |
| 02:45.56 | rndmtngnt_ | it was whispered to me |
| 02:46.02 | Bruners | i have had the same password since day one i started playing |
| 02:46.14 | doom0r | me too |
| 02:46.19 | rndmtngnt_ | sorry echo is the wrong word |
| 02:46.58 | Shefki | Changing a password frequently doesn't improve security. Unless you're allow your password to be compromised frequently. |
| 02:46.59 | Bruners | and i have used all kinds of clients, downloaded porn from sleasy sites, been on /b/ |
| 02:47.08 | Bruners | about anything you can do |
| 02:47.18 | doom0r | changing a password frequently would reduce it infact with wow |
| 02:47.26 | doom0r | since you'd be doing it in a browser |
| 02:47.55 | Shefki | Honestly, I find doing it frequently causes people to write them down or put them in text files or what not. |
| 02:48.02 | doom0r | ^^ |
| 02:48.09 | doom0r | so true |
| 02:48.21 | doom0r | a good password system by use case is the best way |
| 02:48.26 | Shefki | My mom's office requires them to change their password every month. |
| 02:48.29 | Bruners | my dad got a post it on his laptop with login details :P |
| 02:48.32 | Shefki | Everyone has post it notes with their password. |
| 02:48.37 | Shefki | It's stupid. |
| 02:48.43 | doom0r | yup |
| 02:48.54 | quiescens | well your initial login details have to come from somewhere |
| 02:48.58 | rndmtngnt_ | meh I dont need lecture on account security I only just come here to estabalish if was theroritcally possible to be done by a bad addon or bad addon code, since you assured me thats not possible thanks all for your help |
| 02:49.05 | Cryect | Heh its not that hard to remember 8-16 alphanumeric+special characters :-p |
| 02:49.07 | quiescens | what are they going to do, require a password to get your password? |
| 02:49.11 | Cryect | but most people don't want to try |
| 02:49.26 | Cryect | quiescens, a lot of places do |
| 02:49.42 | Cryect | its called secret questions (which I hate since major security issue) or proof of who you are |
| 02:49.43 | quiescens | then where do you get the password with which to retrieve your password? |
| 02:50.08 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r141 / (3 files in 2 directories): - adding missed boss to naxx |
| 02:50.11 | Repo | one of the old bosses changed for the horseman event and was missed |
| 02:50.32 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.9 * r142 : Tagging as 2.2.9 |
| 02:50.47 | Bruners | the president something chick, wasnt that account "hacked" with secret question ? |
| 02:50.50 | Shefki | Cryect: To do passwords right, every system that has a password has to have a unique one and not be shared. You seriously expect people to come up with good passwords that survive dictionary attacks and remember them for everything that has a password on it anymore? |
| 02:51.12 | Shefki | All while changing them on a regular basis. |
| 02:51.35 | Cryect | Nope! But the level of password you use varies based on the security necessary |
| 02:51.49 | Bruners | i have 5 different passwords that are "secure" |
| 02:51.58 | Xinhuan | wow should just have shipped with a authentication token that is needed to be used to login |
| 02:52.09 | Shefki | Should have yes. |
| 02:52.11 | Xinhuan | wrath that is |
| 02:52.25 | quiescens | meh |
| 02:52.26 | Xinhuan | and then that also stops account sharing effectively |
| 02:52.27 | quiescens | effort |
| 02:52.45 | Zhinjio | sorry I can't give you better cause on that one, ck |
| 02:52.51 | Shefki | I'm so tired of the people who account share whining when someone recommends the authenticator. |
| 02:52.59 | Bruners | i know the login for 3 of my friends and they know mine |
| 02:53.01 | Zhinjio | I figured anything erroring 1300 times was worth mentioning though |
| 02:53.13 | Cryect | Heh, well sometimes its nice to be able to share your account |
| 02:53.21 | Cryect | Just know you need to change your password ASAP |
| 02:53.28 | Xinhuan | the only legitimate complaint that can possibly would probably be from people who 10-box and need to key in 10 token passwords hehe |
| 02:53.29 | doom0r | no Xinhuan |
| 02:53.36 | doom0r | i use two accounts and that would piss me off |
| 02:53.36 | Shefki | I have an authenticator. Even my GF doesn't have access to my account. |
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| 02:53.59 | doom0r | 10box wouldn't be bad |
| 02:54.07 | doom0r | switching back and forth with one client would be aggravating |
| 02:54.13 | rndmtngnt_ | Shefki: yer I think might get some authenticators that might be a good idea |
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| 02:54.48 | Zhinjio | ckknight: is this just one big shared profile for the factionrealm? or how are you managing SVs right now |
| 02:55.05 | ckknight | one big profile shared globally |
| 02:55.06 | ckknight | for now |
| 02:55.08 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 02:55.11 | ckknight | I'll set up a way to change profiles later |
| 02:55.12 | Zhinjio | thats fine, actually |
| 02:55.17 | Zhinjio | since I can tune it with layouts |
| 02:55.37 | Shefki | Zhinjio: It's using Ace3 so it has profile support there's just no UI for it atm. |
| 02:55.40 | Zhinjio | I'm actually not sure it isn't advisable to just leave it that way |
| 02:55.42 | Bruners | ckknight: PB4 and layout sharing, what is the status? |
| 02:55.52 | ckknight | you should make a ticket about it |
| 02:57.11 | Shefki | ckknight: BTW your git development URLs are broken. |
| 02:57.19 | ckknight | are they? |
| 02:57.20 | ckknight | how? |
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| 02:57.27 | Shefki | git@git.wowace.com:wow/pitbull4/mainline.git |
| 02:57.35 | Shefki | Should be: git@git.wowace.com/wow/pitbull4/mainline.git |
| 02:57.53 | ckknight | no, they shouldn't be. |
| 02:57.58 | ckknight | welcome to git |
| 02:58.00 | ckknight | and its weird syntax |
| 02:58.02 | Shefki | And should have a ssh:// in front of it. |
| 02:58.06 | ckknight | no |
| 02:58.08 | ckknight | that's unnecessary |
| 02:58.19 | ckknight | it's implied |
| 02:58.21 | Shefki | Well that URL didn't work in my git install. |
| 02:58.52 | Xinhuan | it does for me |
| 02:59.33 | Ackis | ~wowitem 38544 |
| 02:59.33 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38544 http://www.wowdb.com/item.aspx?id=38544 |
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| 03:01.34 | Shefki | *shrug* seems to be working now but last night it kept saying that it wasn't a git repo. |
| 03:01.37 | Bruners | worked here aswell |
| 03:01.53 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I'd consider writing the fullbar thinger for you, but I'm decidedly not git-enabled. |
| 03:02.02 | Zhinjio | it makes me head explode |
| 03:02.18 | ckknight | k |
| 03:02.45 | Shefki | Maybe wowace was just being stupid when I was messing with it last night. |
| 03:03.20 | Bruners | pebkac |
| 03:03.49 | Shefki | git clone URL where URL was copy and pasted doesn't really create much possiblity for pebkac. |
| 03:04.37 | Bruners | *pebcac |
| 03:04.44 | Bruners | :P |
| 03:05.03 | Bruners | maby you where tired and pasted wrong? |
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| 03:06.10 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis * r136 / (4 files in 1 directory): Change a few things around |
| 03:07.05 | Zhinjio | ckknight: custom coloring yet? |
| 03:07.16 | ckknight | nah, need to add that still |
| 03:07.19 | ckknight | there's a ticket for it though |
| 03:07.21 | Zhinjio | I'll ticket it |
| 03:07.21 | ckknight | so it's on my list |
| 03:07.22 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 03:07.23 | Zhinjio | good |
| 03:07.35 | ckknight | yea, Indie made the ticket |
| 03:08.09 | Zhinjio | rockin |
| 03:09.58 | Shefki | decides to make this FullBar module so Zhinjio will stop mentioning it. |
| 03:10.44 | ckknight | hehe |
| 03:11.01 | ckknight | Shefki: I'm wondering whether it'd be better to make that part of the core, let you make as many as you want |
| 03:11.03 | ckknight | dunno |
| 03:11.20 | Shefki | Well it was part of the core for PB3. |
| 03:11.29 | Shefki | I can add it there if you want. That's fine. |
| 03:12.22 | Zhinjio | grins |
| 03:12.51 | Zhinjio | yeah, being able to throw in spacing between any two other bars == win |
| 03:12.56 | Zhinjio | and I don't mean to be a pain |
| 03:13.23 | Shefki | Probably easiest to add it as a mod since all the status bar code is in the StatusBarModule handlers. |
| 03:13.44 | ckknight | Shefki: yea, do that for now. |
| 03:14.11 | ckknight | well, my idea would be to let you make as many full/empty bars as you want |
| 03:14.13 | ckknight | give em names |
| 03:14.17 | ckknight | position em like any other bar |
| 03:14.40 | ckknight | maybe |
| 03:14.49 | Shefki | Calling it BlankSpace though since nobody expect people that know the internals of PB3 has a clue what a fullBar is. |
| 03:14.55 | Shefki | except* |
| 03:15.11 | ckknight | sounds good |
| 03:16.30 | ckknight | hmm, maybe I could make a BarProvider type |
| 03:16.32 | ckknight | like TextProvider |
| 03:16.40 | ckknight | which can churn out an arbitrary number of bars |
| 03:16.56 | ckknight | then BlankSpace would be one of said bars |
| 03:17.03 | ckknight | s/bars/bar providers/ |
| 03:17.23 | ckknight | note: I'm not sure what else would be good as a bar provider |
| 03:19.32 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r143 / (4 files in 1 directory): - event cool-down now accessible as option in UI |
| 03:19.35 | Repo | was always there but not in options UI |
| 03:19.37 | Repo | this option determines amount of time to wait before changing the current loot target after an event completes |
| 03:20.00 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.10 * r144 : Tagging as 2.2.10 |
| 03:21.03 | thul | i'm so tired right now |
| 03:23.13 | Antiarc | "I've been digging around for a couple of specific addons for a few days in my offtime. For one of them I'm just about ready to teach myself xml so that I can write it." |
| 03:24.49 | thul | xml..? |
| 03:27.45 | Torhal | ... |
| 03:27.51 | Camci | hahahaah http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WzC5Bo7gWoc |
| 03:28.22 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * e36f273 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add BlankSpace module. |
| 03:28.37 | Shefki | Pretty simplistic. Not sure that's really how we want to leave that. |
| 03:28.41 | Shefki | But it's there for now. |
| 03:29.02 | Zhinjio | Danke |
| 03:29.11 | Antiarc | Holy crap, I finally got Gotta Go |
| 03:29.17 | Antiarc | That achievement sucks so many balls. |
| 03:29.29 | Shefki | I'm never gonna get that until they nerf it. |
| 03:29.45 | erikh | which one is that? |
| 03:29.51 | Shefki | Blizzard hates healers when it comes to achievements. |
| 03:30.06 | Shefki | I can't think of any achievement that's "You need to be a healer to get this." |
| 03:30.17 | Antiarc | Kill Anub'arak in 2 minutes on heroic |
| 03:30.22 | erikh | ah |
| 03:30.39 | Antiarc | The challenge is that he submerges 3 times if you do the fight correctly, and spends 2 minutes submerged. |
| 03:30.51 | Antiarc | So you have to get him to skip 2 of the 3 submerge phases |
| 03:31.00 | Antiarc | By bursting 25% of his HP in 5.1 seconds |
| 03:31.23 | Antiarc | We burnt him from 77->49% in one Pound, which was 5.1 sec |
| 03:31.33 | Antiarc | And then we burnt him from 31%->dead in another Pound |
| 03:31.35 | Antiarc | Again, 5.1 sec |
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| 03:35.21 | Ackis | ~wowspell 38504 |
| 03:35.22 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=38504 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=38504 |
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| 03:39.56 | sylvanaar | we were trying Watch Him Die |
| 03:40.03 | sylvanaar | that sucks |
| 03:40.22 | Antiarc | There's a specific way to do that |
| 03:40.37 | sylvanaar | we didnt find it |
| 03:41.08 | sylvanaar | we found how we could make them path up to the ledge |
| 03:41.10 | erikh | i'm sure it's only a couple content patches away |
| 03:41.57 | sylvanaar | but it wasnt really working out that well |
| 03:42.34 | sylvanaar | neither was kiting them to the entrance or offtanking them |
| 03:42.49 | Antiarc | we had a group use a paladin healer |
| 03:42.53 | Antiarc | And stick him up on the ledge |
| 03:42.59 | Antiarc | And he basically tanks it |
| 03:43.00 | Antiarc | It's nuts |
| 03:43.09 | Antiarc | Then you just burst the boss down hardcore |
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| 03:44.53 | sylvanaar | yeah we tried that |
| 03:45.26 | sylvanaar | there is a bush there that makes it hard to see |
| 03:46.15 | sylvanaar | theres you can sidestep between to points that have no path between them |
| 03:47.13 | sylvanaar | but you cant see the mobs in the bush, meh |
| 03:48.14 | RaydenU | i guess i ought to fork over the gold to make the two melee cloaks |
| 03:48.23 | RaydenU | crap, forgot to transfer gold to mule |
| 03:48.26 | sylvanaar | i can see how a paladin could do it though |
| 03:48.41 | sylvanaar | bubble drop aggro, bubble fades, gets aggro again |
| 03:48.55 | CIA-34 | greedbeacon: 03Tekkub 07master * r05c6a5c 10/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Add config instead of relying on Blizzy's somewhat buggy chat settings - http://tinyurl.com/97gzvv |
| 03:49.34 | sylvanaar | and it takes about 6-8 sec for them to path each way |
| 03:56.46 | RaydenU | today was expensive |
| 03:56.52 | RaydenU | spent over 3000g to make some LW stuff |
| 03:59.15 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r75 embeds.xml: Fixed library loading issues. |
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| 04:19.55 | Skellum | Ckknight, Pitbull 4 do the MT and MT target frames work? |
| 04:20.01 | ckknight | no |
| 04:20.03 | ckknight | no raid frames |
| 04:20.16 | Skellum | kk |
| 04:22.04 | doom0r | frame glow for raid markers |
| 04:22.13 | doom0r | kill this, then this, etc |
| 04:22.26 | doom0r | make a glow aura or some crap that glows the border based on marker |
| 04:22.30 | doom0r | is that possible? |
| 04:22.46 | doom0r | nothing worse than tabbing through to find a freaking marker |
| 04:23.15 | doom0r | wrt UF of course |
| 04:23.33 | Skellum | ctc ping would be someone sending me a whisper if i wanted it to noise at me? |
| 04:24.25 | doom0r | ctcp is client to client protocol |
| 04:24.59 | doom0r | a ctcp ping is like an ip 2 ip ping |
| 04:25.04 | doom0r | cept it goes through the server |
| 04:25.17 | doom0r | if i'm not mistaken |
| 04:25.41 | doom0r | i'ts not a "hey you" |
| 04:25.47 | doom0r | but it gets used as that mostly |
| 04:25.48 | doom0r | ;x |
| 04:26.56 | doom0r | ckknight: what's your thoughts on that with consideration to pb4, come raid support |
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| 04:27.15 | ckknight | glow? |
| 04:27.26 | doom0r | glow glow/border |
| 04:27.28 | doom0r | w/e |
| 04:27.31 | thul | http://fc77.deviantart.com/fs40/i/2009/010/1/a/Renato_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day :-P |
| 04:27.42 | doom0r | something that can be got at for plugins to change |
| 04:27.47 | Skellum | hides his stereo |
| 04:27.59 | ckknight | I was actually talking with Shefki about that |
| 04:28.44 | Shefki | ckknight: Where the heck is expect() defined? |
| 04:28.53 | ckknight | Shefki: in Development.lua |
| 04:28.57 | doom0r | where you'd least expect it! |
| 04:29.00 | Primer | Can macros loop over buffs and cast one thing if I have a specific buff, something else otherwise? |
| 04:29.04 | doom0r | runs |
| 04:29.11 | ckknight | note: don't expect it to work in non-alphas |
| 04:29.31 | doom0r | i was expecting another pun being made available |
| 04:29.40 | Shefki | You mean Debug.lua? |
| 04:29.58 | Shefki | I see why I couldn't find it. You're explicitly putting it in the global nameespace (eww) |
| 04:30.37 | ckknight | Shefki: yea |
| 04:30.40 | ckknight | yea, I know |
| 04:30.42 | ckknight | :P |
| 04:31.36 | ckknight | doom0r: I think he stole my bike |
| 04:33.11 | Shefki | ckknight: Why is there no way to remove a FrameScriptHook? |
| 04:33.22 | ckknight | isn't there? |
| 04:33.23 | ckknight | hmm |
| 04:33.37 | ckknight | you're right |
| 04:33.39 | ckknight | that should be added |
| 04:33.47 | Shefki | Incredibly no. Nor does disabling the module remove them. |
| 04:34.05 | Shefki | Which is why disabling and then reenabling Highlight spits out an error. |
| 04:34.17 | Shefki | Becuase you're assuming that Disable cleans up the script hooks. |
| 04:34.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1353 / (18 files in 3 directories): |
| 04:34.31 | Repo | Verify remaining enchanting stuff, remove some comments in the files, and remove all ignore recipes |
| 04:35.50 | ckknight | Shefki: okay |
| 04:36.40 | sylvanaar | Torhal hey what am i doing wrong when i mouse over my LDB plugin the tooltip pops up on every LDB display |
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| 04:44.05 | Zhinjio | wow, cool |
| 04:44.11 | doom0r | sometimes |
| 04:44.15 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Weirdness |
| 04:44.33 | Torhal | Every LDB display's tooltip pops up? |
| 04:44.36 | Torhal | ... |
| 04:44.38 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 04:44.49 | Torhal | Pastey? |
| 04:45.13 | sylvanaar | every place that ldb is displayed |
| 04:45.25 | sylvanaar | the tooltip pops up |
| 04:46.02 | Shefki | Why the hell does git make it so damn hard to throw away local changes... DKJ%$%LJ$% |
| 04:46.04 | Torhal | The tooltip for your addon, or every tooltip for every addon? |
| 04:46.40 | sylvanaar | http://fail.pastey.net/106022 |
| 04:46.47 | sylvanaar | for mine |
| 04:47.26 | Torhal | Get rid of the OnTooltipShow() |
| 04:47.37 | Torhal | The LDB display should handle that internally |
| 04:47.59 | sylvanaar | why? |
| 04:48.09 | sylvanaar | i have to call it |
| 04:48.25 | Torhal | You're calling it in the OnEnter() of the DO...the LDB display does that automatically |
| 04:48.48 | sylvanaar | how does it know what tooltip to pass |
| 04:48.59 | doom0r | gnomes |
| 04:49.02 | Torhal | DO.OnTooltipShow() |
| 04:49.18 | Torhal | And actually, you should use either OnEnter/OnLeave OR OnTooltipShow() |
| 04:49.26 | sylvanaar | DO.OnTooltipShow(tooltip) |
| 04:49.30 | Torhal | You're doing both and calling one from within the other |
| 04:49.55 | Torhal | I only ever use OnEnter/OnLeave |
| 04:50.39 | Torhal | Just rename OnTooltipShow() to something the LDB display isn't goingb to try to use and you should be fine |
| 04:51.01 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1354 / (4 files in 2 directories): Remove redundant entry in mob db |
| 04:51.11 | sylvanaar | Torhal then the display provides a 2nd tooltip |
| 04:52.03 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 53ef7d2 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 04:52.05 | Repo | 53ef7d2: Remove script hooks when disabling Highlight module to avoid errors. |
| 04:52.08 | Repo | 110ec24: Add RemoveFrameScriptHook to compliment the AddFrameScriptHook method. |
| 04:52.35 | Torhal | Your DO should have either OnEnter/OnLeave or OnTooltipShow, but not both simultaneously. Just rename DO.OnTooltipShow() to DO.ShowTooltip() |
| 04:52.40 | sylvanaar | this code came straight from either the wiki or the thread |
| 04:55.10 | sylvanaar | i like lqt by the way |
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| 04:55.21 | Torhal | Well, wherever it came from, it's using two different tooltip display methods at the same time |
| 04:55.28 | Torhal | Cool :) |
| 04:55.34 | sylvanaar | ldb is so underarchitected - its really fail |
| 04:55.48 | Arrowmaster | no you fail |
| 04:55.52 | sylvanaar | every display puts up a 2nd tooltip |
| 04:56.13 | sylvanaar | unless you define ontooltipshow |
| 04:56.22 | Torhal | OnTooltipShow() is for the display to manage the tooltip. If you want your addon to manage it instead, use OnEnter/OnLeave |
| 04:56.34 | Torhal | I never use OnTooltipShow() |
| 04:57.32 | Torhal | I Acquire(), build, then display in the OnEnter() then Release() in the OnLeave() |
| 04:57.32 | sylvanaar | you are like the channel troll now arrow, insulting everyone |
| 04:58.00 | sylvanaar | how do you avoid the default tooltip that the displays put up |
| 04:58.15 | sylvanaar | because they think you have no tooltip |
| 04:58.30 | Torhal | One sec: |
| 04:58.35 | Arrowmaster | you dont use OnTooltipShow |
| 04:58.43 | Arrowmaster | thats how |
| 04:59.17 | sylvanaar | you want a SS of the visual disaster that creates |
| 04:59.28 | Arrowmaster | what fail display are you using? |
| 04:59.33 | sylvanaar | button bin |
| 04:59.56 | Arrowmaster | then blame it, it shouldnt be doing that |
| 05:00.38 | sylvanaar | back to my underarchitected comment... |
| 05:01.35 | Arrowmaster | http://wiki.github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/data-specifications |
| 05:01.41 | Arrowmaster | did you read that code you copied? |
| 05:01.48 | Arrowmaster | guessing you copied it from there |
| 05:02.00 | Torhal | sylvanaar: http://www.wowace.com/paste/118/ |
| 05:02.11 | Torhal | I have no OnTooltipShow() at all, and it works fine in ButtonBin |
| 05:02.15 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 193339a Modules/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 05:02.18 | Repo | 193339a: Small typo with adding coloring to Healthbar. |
| 05:02.20 | Repo | 195e851: Add coloring by hostility, tapped, disconnected, dead, and so on to |
| 05:05.08 | Arrowmaster | if you read that data-specifications page its deffently not underarchitected |
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| 05:07.32 | sylvanaar | i read all of it Arrowmaster |
| 05:10.16 | Tekkub | OnTooltipShow is NOT for use with anything except GameTooltips |
| 05:10.37 | Tekkub | you're not using that, use either OnEnter or tooltip |
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| 05:13.40 | sylvanaar | yeah, i took out ontooltipshow, i had to take it out of both LDBs that had it |
| 05:14.13 | sylvanaar | otherwise all the tooltips would still pop up |
| 05:14.28 | Torhal | Yah, you were freaking the display out. |
| 05:15.20 | Torhal | Though the confusing part is that someone has this under OnTooltipShow() in the Wiki: |
| 05:15.21 | Torhal | Naturally, it must pass the tooltip to be filled to the callback, some display addons might use their own tooltip instead of the global GameTooltip. |
| 05:15.45 | sylvanaar | right |
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| 05:16.46 | sylvanaar | i swear theres a post in the thread about this - anyways it works thanks for the help guys |
| 05:17.20 | Tekkub | Torhal, you can make multiple GameTooltip-type frames |
| 05:17.52 | Tekkub | but if you go passing or trying to use a frame that doesn't support the methods GameTooltips do, well, shit hits the fan |
| 05:18.19 | Torhal | Yah, just saying: It doesn't explicitly state that in the wiki, thus there's bound to be confusion. |
| 05:18.28 | Tekkub | ugh |
| 05:18.31 | Tekkub | I hate you all |
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| 05:18.57 | quiescens | ): |
| 05:19.02 | Torhal | Duh. |
| 05:19.04 | Torhal | :D |
| 05:20.11 | sylvanaar | so in your pastey Torhal the hidetooltip() does it call release? |
| 05:20.19 | Torhal | Yep |
| 05:20.40 | Torhal | LQT:Release(tip) then tip = nil |
| 05:21.39 | Hell-Razor | heh i wtb somebody to recruit me as a friend so i can get a druid to 60 fast as hell |
| 05:21.42 | sylvanaar | i guess i could do tooltip = LQT:Release(tooltip) |
| 05:22.33 | quiescens | but then your durid will be on some random account! |
| 05:22.56 | Hell-Razor | i can xfer him to mine |
| 05:23.16 | Torhal | Except that Release() has to return value |
| 05:23.21 | Torhal | s/to/no/ |
| 05:24.22 | Tekkub | there, updated, assholes |
| 05:24.57 | Hell-Razor | lol |
| 05:27.25 | Torhal | Tekkub: It's prettier now. |
| 05:27.43 | Tekkub | mu? |
| 05:27.57 | Torhal | Heh |
| 05:29.02 | quiescens | μ? |
| 05:29.08 | Tekkub | yes |
| 05:29.16 | Tekkub | damnit clad's in the wiki too |
| 05:29.23 | Tekkub | WTB diffs /sadpanda |
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| 05:33.30 | sylvanaar | <3 |
| 05:33.37 | Primer | Anyone know how I can /cast from a /script line in a macro? |
| 05:33.44 | Primer | within a conditional |
| 05:33.58 | quiescens | you probably can't |
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| 05:34.37 | Primer | /script for i=1,40 do local B=UnitBuff("player",i);if B="Shadow Trance" then ... /cast Shadow Bolt |
| 05:34.52 | Primer | I can get it to print the buff names from the macro |
| 05:35.39 | Torhal | Primer: CastSpellByName()? |
| 05:36.26 | quiescens | you can't do that directly |
| 05:36.35 | Torhal | Yah, it's secure |
| 05:36.43 | Torhal | err, protected |
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| 05:37.39 | Primer | yeah, not allowed |
| 05:37.41 | Primer | oh well |
| 05:37.43 | doom0r | introduces Primer to WoW v2+ |
| 05:37.51 | Primer | yeah yeah |
| 05:37.54 | quiescens | welcome to the new world~ |
| 05:38.08 | Tekkub | welcome to a year and a half ago |
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| 05:42.34 | sylvanaar | can you call those functions in the new secure environment stuff? |
| 05:42.56 | Shefki | Don't think so. |
| 05:43.13 | Shefki | Don't believe you can call UnitBuff/Aura etc. |
| 05:44.56 | Arrowmaster | the secure environment has almost nothing but functions that match macro conditionals |
| 05:45.09 | sylvanaar | yeah, i see that, i was just looking |
| 05:45.36 | sylvanaar | i cant say i understand its purpose at this point |
| 05:46.27 | sylvanaar | so you can hilight buttons if something is castabale? |
| 05:46.30 | Arrowmaster | its slightly more powerful than what was available in 2.0 |
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| 05:46.58 | quiescens | you can hilight whatever you want using whatever conditions you want really |
| 05:47.07 | Wraithan | I wonder if MMOs like WoW or EQ have ever considered the model that some of the old text based games used to do. Some servers allowed scripting others didn't. Where you could play on a different client that had lax security for automation, would have to either pay an additional or separate fee |
| 05:47.33 | sylvanaar | the old muds were all about scripting |
| 05:47.44 | quiescens | that's hardly the biggest reason for it |
| 05:48.05 | quiescens | if someone wanted to write a bot, most tasks they would try to automate would really only *need* one skill |
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| 05:48.31 | Wraithan | While I know some/a lot of the scripting is done to make real life money, there are scripters who like to either just run them or create advanced AI and stuff like that |
| 05:48.51 | quiescens | the secure handler restrictions are to try to prevent things from choosing your targets for you, or choosing your spells etc |
| 05:48.53 | Wraithan | sylvanaar: some BBSs back in the day would ban your ass if you scripted |
| 05:49.21 | quiescens | if someone wanted to bot killing say, random world npcs for loot or exp or whatever |
| 05:49.21 | sylvanaar | i remember spending hours writing the bot for the guy who answered the door at my house when i wasnt home in some MUD i cant reemember the name of |
| 05:49.23 | Wraithan | quiescens: right, so this server that would allow automation would remove that |
| 05:49.44 | quiescens | they can do that just fine, just spamming the one skill, for most of the classes |
| 05:50.11 | Wraithan | quiescens: to do the good stuff takes a lot more skill than just running around and spamming one skill |
| 05:50.34 | Wraithan | I used to write bots for EQ, loved it because sony wouldn't touch us if we kept off the other player's radar |
| 05:51.12 | quiescens | if you were botting for the sake of farming for example, would they really bother to go and try to make it play to the best of a player's ability |
| 05:51.15 | Wraithan | I would just go in an instance and EXP/run there, it wouldn't affect anyone else and I didn't buy/sell loot from the AH |
| 05:51.29 | Wraithan | depends on what they were trying to farm |
| 05:51.34 | quiescens | when all they really need to do is spam (frostbolt/steadyshot/sinister strike/etc) |
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| 05:52.01 | Wraithan | I guess you miss the point completely quiescens |
| 05:52.11 | doom0r | not being able to get away with it prevents it from becoming d2 |
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| 05:52.22 | doom0r | the moment it becomes d2 it's useless to play |
| 05:52.27 | sylvanaar | there are bots for wow too |
| 05:52.38 | sylvanaar | the gold farmers use them |
| 05:52.42 | doom0r | you could just play the auction house now and be the same thing it'd turn into |
| 05:52.51 | quiescens | no, my point is |
| 05:52.59 | Wraithan | Yeah there are, but they catch them and it isn't as fun because you would spend more time trying to get around security than actually working on AI |
| 05:53.04 | sylvanaar | right |
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| 05:53.14 | sylvanaar | so you pay a gold farmer |
| 05:53.15 | quiescens | they restricted automation not for fear of bots, but for preventing players from having too much scripted assistance |
| 05:53.27 | quiescens | a well written bot could still do whatever you wanted |
| 05:54.22 | sylvanaar | you can just write one that moves you around based on time in an area where mobs have a constant respawn rate |
| 05:54.34 | Wraithan | quiescens: hence the thought of a separate server, for those that would like to do that stuff, even do things to discourage actual play on it, like removing raid content of the latest expansion and what not |
| 05:54.57 | Wraithan | I would love to play with writing AI for battle grounds or arena |
| 05:55.22 | doom0r | why? |
| 05:55.29 | Wraithan | Because it would be fun |
| 05:55.38 | doom0r | not having the slightest what the other person is going to do makes it more interesting |
| 05:55.50 | sylvanaar | you know FFXII had that little botting minigame |
| 05:56.07 | Wraithan | No, I meant to run a team against another team, not an AI to fight against |
| 05:56.20 | Wraithan | like the people who write AI for chess and pit them against eachother |
| 05:56.51 | sylvanaar | or that robotics contest they show on discovery |
| 05:56.53 | doom0r | i'm content with my penis size |
| 05:56.58 | doom0r | ;x |
| 05:57.02 | doom0r | runs |
| 05:57.03 | Wraithan | lol |
| 05:57.03 | sylvanaar | thats semi-automated |
| 05:57.12 | doom0r | no, it's fully automated! |
| 05:57.14 | doom0r | :P |
| 05:57.37 | sylvanaar | some of them have students controlling them |
| 05:58.36 | doom0r | waits for sylvanaar to catch up |
| 05:58.51 | Torhal | doom0r: Do you have students controlling your penis? |
| 05:58.55 | Wraithan | I just think they could actually market a server like that and serious AI development would be done on it |
| 05:59.02 | doom0r | not atm =\ |
| 05:59.04 | Torhal | Hah |
| 06:00.14 | sylvanaar | well, there is nothing else to do atm really |
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| 06:01.06 | doom0r | hmmm |
| 06:01.12 | doom0r | they could drop the content |
| 06:01.16 | Shefki | sylvanaar: FFXII was awesome. |
| 06:01.21 | doom0r | all CC, etc content to replace |
| 06:01.30 | doom0r | and just have the engine/mods to it |
| 06:01.44 | doom0r | then it wouldn't have to be "WoW" |
| 06:01.49 | doom0r | and be a huge issue |
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| 06:03.25 | sylvanaar | they have private servers |
| 06:03.52 | sylvanaar | or rather |
| 06:03.54 | sylvanaar | there are |
| 06:04.33 | sylvanaar | the whole point is doing it in the game world |
| 06:04.58 | sylvanaar | Shefki that was another game i didnt finish |
| 06:05.52 | sylvanaar | whoever wrote the ai for my vaccuum cleaner needs to be shot by the way |
| 06:05.55 | Shefki | sylvanaar: Finishing a FF game is a relative term. |
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| 06:06.16 | Shefki | You can finish the story without having touched a ton of the content. |
| 06:06.16 | quiescens | sylvanaar's vaccuum cleaner is run by skynet |
| 06:06.19 | sylvanaar | Shefki yeah - but it does have a credits screen that rolls at some point |
| 06:06.27 | doom0r | that's just god damn lazy |
| 06:06.37 | sylvanaar | what is? |
| 06:06.48 | doom0r | takes freak 2-3 minutes to vacuum the main area of 1000 sq ft |
| 06:07.07 | sylvanaar | yeah, actually - i dont even use it, i have a maid |
| 06:07.17 | Shefki | sylvanaar: I liked FFXII because I could mostly setup my characters carefully and then the game would play them for me. There was a lot of strategy to how you set them up. |
| 06:07.20 | quiescens | oh well that's alright then |
| 06:08.19 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: one of those little automatic vaccuum cleaners? i didnt think those had AIs but just turned in a random direction and went forward until they bumped into something then repeated |
| 06:08.26 | sylvanaar | its sad, but i just counldnt be bothered to even turn it on - because it would get stuck somewhere, and then beep until it ran out of batteries |
| 06:08.32 | Shefki | That and I loved the ability to level all the characters to max level without having to mindlessly grind myself. |
| 06:08.43 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster that is an AI |
| 06:09.04 | Arrowmaster | AI implies complex |
| 06:09.47 | quiescens | that's not exactly a quantifiable measure |
| 06:10.36 | sylvanaar | no, it doesnt. it implies ability to make choices. thats all AI is fundamentally |
| 06:12.32 | quiescens | anyway, a vaccuum cleaner like that would potentially be easy to write an effective algorithm for, but more likely they are limited in what they can write due to sensor data moreso |
| 06:13.17 | sylvanaar | i think you can actually install linux on it |
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| 06:14.03 | sylvanaar | or they made a special version that you could - something like that |
| 06:14.22 | Arrowmaster | yeah and you can install unix on a toaster |
| 06:14.29 | quiescens | its not so much bad "intelligence" so to speak, but it just can't see well enough for anyone to write a good system for it anyway |
| 06:14.47 | quiescens | there's only so much you can do when your only input is "oops I've hit something" |
| 06:14.48 | sylvanaar | lol http://www.instructables.com/id/Using-the-iRobot-Create_s-Command-Module-with-Linu/ |
| 06:15.08 | Wraithan | I would put solaris on my coffee machine just because it would be awesome |
| 06:15.31 | Wraithan | The makers of Java made the OS that runs on my coffee machine |
| 06:15.32 | Wraithan | :D |
| 06:15.47 | sylvanaar | http://store.irobot.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=2591511&ab=CMS_IRBT_CreateSuperCat_LearnMore_110408 |
| 06:15.55 | sylvanaar | its a special version |
| 06:15.58 | quiescens | um |
| 06:16.10 | quiescens | Success |
| 06:16.12 | quiescens | lol |
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| 06:19.42 | sylvanaar | well, its biggest problem was getting stuck if it vacuumed up something it couldnt handle |
| 06:20.14 | sylvanaar | it had no real provision to deal with that. it would give up immediately. |
| 06:20.38 | sylvanaar | dryer sheets |
| 06:21.02 | sylvanaar | it liked to choke on them |
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| 06:21.40 | Toadkiller | You need to get the iPickerUpper to first go around and pick up stuff so it cant choke! |
| 06:21.52 | sylvanaar | i have iMexican |
| 06:22.06 | ckknight | but the iMexican has a chance of stealing all your stuff |
| 06:22.12 | doom0r | those typically are cheaper short term |
| 06:22.18 | doom0r | but as ckk pointed out |
| 06:22.34 | Toadkiller | I prefer iGuatamalan |
| 06:22.42 | ckknight | also, there's a good chance that it's an illegal robot |
| 06:24.08 | sylvanaar | well, thats going to suck if someone yells immigration while its chocking on a dryer sheet |
| 06:25.31 | sylvanaar | Toadkiller thats why i gave up on it, because i had to pretty much spend the same amount of time clearing the floor for it than i would if i had just vacuumed it myself |
| 06:26.37 | sylvanaar | ckknight i use a service - they are bonded, so if they steal my stuff, i steal theirs |
| 06:26.46 | Aiiane | the roomba is more designed for people who aren't really "messy" |
| 06:26.59 | Aiiane | but instead just spill the occasional crumbs from a snack or track in some dirt |
| 06:27.05 | doom0r | sylvanaar: is your stuff appraised? |
| 06:27.08 | sylvanaar | i have a hand vac |
| 06:27.17 | sylvanaar | doom0r yes |
| 06:27.38 | sylvanaar | doom0r alot of it - contestable items yeah |
| 06:28.11 | quiescens | I don't know, most large items I'll just pick up right away if they're on the floor |
| 06:28.31 | quiescens | potentially leaving a vaccuum robot like that to just vaccuum dust and such |
| 06:29.00 | doom0r | cat > robot vac |
| 06:29.11 | doom0r | robot vac would be full in 10 seconds with a cat =\ |
| 06:29.21 | sylvanaar | it did an ok job but you really had to baby-sit it |
| 06:29.50 | sylvanaar | which defeated the point |
| 06:30.06 | doom0r | no it didn't, the whole point was for them to make money marketing the pos |
| 06:30.07 | doom0r | :P |
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| 06:31.38 | sylvanaar | actually i bought it for the house i moved out of last year, it had very open areas |
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| 06:35.13 | sylvanaar | oh and it *never* returned to its home base |
| 06:35.20 | sylvanaar | ever, not once |
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| 06:48.13 | Repo | -- Requires current alpha of Grid to work. |
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| 06:52.12 | Ackis | anyone here have a ptr install right now? |
| 06:53.35 | Shefki | yes. |
| 06:53.41 | Shefki | Whatcha need? |
| 06:54.39 | Ackis | spell IDs, skill levels and mats for the three new cooking recipes (along where you can learn them from, i think two are dalaran vendor, not sure the third yet) |
| 06:55.14 | Ackis | Kungaloosh, Worg Tartare and fish feast |
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| 07:07.16 | Shot | nomnomnom |
| 07:07.19 | Shot | 7am beans on toast |
| 07:07.51 | doom0r | ... |
| 07:08.05 | doom0r | needs less toast, more tortilla, and meat |
| 07:08.35 | Shot | hmm |
| 07:08.45 | Shot | I'll stick with beans on toast & strong coffee |
| 07:09.35 | doom0r | shooting heroin would probably be more to the point |
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| 07:11.52 | Shot | i wonder if any of the other people hovering in the air in storm peaks are eating beans on toast |
| 07:12.21 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r191 debug/printliteral.lua: register /print which calls print() via loadstring |
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| 07:14.27 | Shot | you know, it actually shocks me how many people seem to look for TLPD at 7am on a sunday |
| 07:14.34 | Shot | or 8am, whatever |
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| 07:37.58 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1356 / (4 files in 2 directories): Fix the ID's and whatnot for the new cooking recipes |
| 07:39.56 | Shot | You know Blizzard must be doing something right with gold farmers/sellers when they whisper you advertising less gold in stock than you have on that char |
| 07:42.34 | doom0r | or you're a shrewd ah bastard ;x |
| 07:44.38 | Shot | meh |
| 07:44.47 | Shot | 39k isn't _that much_ |
| 07:45.03 | Shot | I spend a lot, I herb a lot :) |
| 07:46.09 | Ackis | shot gimme gold kk? |
| 07:46.27 | Shot | Nevar! |
| 07:46.32 | Ackis | :( |
| 07:46.35 | Shot | I didn't get it by giving it away, that's for sure :D |
| 07:46.47 | Ackis | lol |
| 07:48.18 | doom0r | ya, right, keep telling everyone that, we know how you got it ;x |
| 07:48.30 | Shot | Ooh. |
| 07:48.35 | Shot | That's a new one from the farmers |
| 07:48.54 | Shot | W:From Sarnbrez: I'm wondering to ask if you'd like to share your level70+ character with me.I just play on it when you are not playing. For compensation, I will give you 500 gold everyday. Please contact me by email or [MSN:game4ever@hotmail.com],thanks! |
| 07:49.15 | doom0r | lol |
| 07:51.06 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Azethoth * r96 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Add wotlk changes by cptmurdok |
| 07:58.32 | sylvanaar | blizz tracks the ips used to connect to user accounts, and automatically resets the passwords at 8pm PST if there are connections from ips they think should not be connecting |
| 08:00.01 | sylvanaar | i let my cousin in pakistan play, and every day i had to send him a new password |
| 08:00.16 | sylvanaar | but the reset happened like clockwork |
| 08:01.05 | Arrowmaster | it likely wouldnt have happened if you didnt login too |
| 08:01.21 | sylvanaar | i never logged in once |
| 08:01.40 | Arrowmaster | odd |
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| 08:03.28 | sylvanaar | actually now that i look, the emails are all different times |
| 08:03.44 | sylvanaar | just the last few were at the same time |
| 08:04.32 | sylvanaar | AND the account would have a temp suspension on it too |
| 08:05.10 | sylvanaar | i wish they had been doing that when my main account was hacked |
| 08:05.28 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Azethoth * r97 GridStatusRaidDebuff.toc: -- Update description |
| 08:05.53 | Shot | what do you think constitutes a suspicious connection? |
| 08:06.02 | sylvanaar | who knows |
| 08:06.06 | Shot | far away countires? |
| 08:06.08 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 08:06.11 | Shot | *countries |
| 08:06.26 | sylvanaar | certain ones |
| 08:06.37 | Shot | I'm in Scotland, my friend is in SE England, we log on each other's accounts all the time :) |
| 08:06.50 | doom0r | lol |
| 08:06.56 | sylvanaar | my cousin is in pakistan im in raleigh NC |
| 08:07.10 | doom0r | that's the difference of a couple states or opposite sides of a big state |
| 08:07.21 | Shot | That's quite a distance sylvanaar |
| 08:08.02 | sylvanaar | its almost on the oppositte side of the N hemisphere even |
| 08:08.02 | Shot | doom0r: our connections probably both get to blizzard's servers via the same backbone route |
| 08:09.01 | sylvanaar | they may also be using warden to get the locale and/or other info |
| 08:10.01 | sylvanaar | to thwart proxies and whatnot |
| 08:12.14 | Shot | To the shower-mobile! *scoots* |
| 08:34.32 | Aeyan | sylvanaar: Raleigh, huh? I'm over in Greensboro. |
| 08:34.33 | Aeyan | Hehe |
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| 08:40.50 | sylvanaar | hey, right near by |
| 08:47.24 | Toadkiller | Actually when you reset via the web page you are using the authentication server, so probably thats the same as logging in anyways. |
| 08:48.28 | Toadkiller | If your cousin did the resetting from pakistan it would probably work? |
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| 08:53.10 | Repo | -- Guid Grid compatible. Requires current alpha of Grid to work. |
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| 09:10.55 | doom0r | it's his email, not his cousins, so wouldn't matter |
| 09:14.36 | sylvanaar | the new password comes in an email |
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| 09:14.45 | Repo | -added trade skill buttons for quick shopping access |
| 09:14.58 | sylvanaar | unsolicited |
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| 09:17.41 | the-golem | Shot: You should tell him yes, then stay logged on 24/7 |
| 09:18.00 | the-golem | oh, and give him a bad pw, and still demand 500g |
| 09:18.03 | the-golem | *cackle* |
| 09:18.22 | the-golem | hides. |
| 09:20.39 | theoddone33 | we're bad |
| 09:20.42 | theoddone33 | at killing c'thun |
| 09:24.51 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r14beta * r15 : Tagging as r14beta |
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| 09:35.11 | doom0r | c'thun with a pug is easier than emps with a pug |
| 09:35.39 | doom0r | pugs have no grasp of the mechanics of emps |
| 09:36.14 | doom0r | least c'thun is easy, dodge pewpewz, kill tents, stab eyes |
| 09:36.22 | doom0r | they can handle that |
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| 09:51.27 | ckknight | what's the best race for a dedicated bank mule on alliance side? |
| 09:51.44 | doom0r | female dwarf |
| 09:51.46 | ckknight | assuming it'll also do auctions |
| 09:51.55 | ckknight | why's that, doom0r? |
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| 09:52.02 | Repo | -fixed uid assignment in shopping trade link |
| 09:52.07 | doom0r | not common, used to be endangered |
| 09:52.11 | ckknight | lol |
| 09:52.12 | doom0r | and IF is the center of the world |
| 09:52.31 | doom0r | sw is popular now too |
| 09:52.35 | doom0r | but it's awkward |
| 09:52.39 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r16beta * r17 : Tagging as r16beta |
| 09:52.42 | doom0r | everything is pretty much in IF |
| 09:52.52 | ckknight | okay |
| 09:53.17 | doom0r | besides, trams a short way if you pack up and move to sw |
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| 09:54.08 | Fisker- | hey ckknight |
| 09:54.14 | ckknight | hey Fisker- |
| 09:54.18 | Fisker- | you could learn something from this guy regarding addon developement |
| 09:54.21 | ckknight | ? |
| 09:54.24 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:54.47 | ckknight | The sounds for this addon can't be customized unless you have the password to unlock the file in game. |
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| 09:54.57 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:55.06 | ckknight | ...why? |
| 09:55.09 | Fisker- | :D |
| 09:55.25 | ckknight | and it's under the Ace category |
| 09:55.26 | ckknight | great |
| 09:56.37 | Zyndrome | what the... |
| 09:56.40 | Mikk | myeah those categories could go away plix |
| 09:56.48 | Zyndrome | d/l's out of curiousity |
| 09:57.19 | ckknight | Mikk: yea, it's not like curseforge has a separate ace section, we just have a separate website |
| 09:57.23 | ckknight | ?P |
| 09:57.24 | ckknight | :P* |
| 09:57.40 | Mikk | hehe |
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| 09:58.00 | Mikk | it's mostly the fact that those categories on wowi are well... just not used |
| 09:58.09 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:58.17 | Mikk | nor does curse.com have an ace category |
| 09:58.25 | Zyndrome | lol the sound is incredibly bad ._. |
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| 09:58.42 | exor674 | *eyes that addon's folder... a .wma WTF o,O can WoW handle WMAs? |
| 09:58.45 | Arrowmaster | HAHA |
| 09:58.46 | Arrowmaster | its a .wma |
| 09:58.57 | Arrowmaster | no wow can not play it |
| 09:59.05 | Wizardling | Hi, should changes to the size of the chat window with Prat 3 be showing up immediately? |
| 09:59.12 | Mikk | probably |
| 09:59.15 | exor674 | diiiidn't think so |
| 09:59.20 | doom0r | mmmm, upload that to one of those scanner sites |
| 09:59.29 | doom0r | wma's had an exploit last summer |
| 09:59.31 | ckknight | Wizardling: try /rl |
| 09:59.35 | exor674 | that sounds like "BOOM, headshit" |
| 09:59.45 | doom0r | well, all windows container media files |
| 09:59.58 | doom0r | s/container media/media container/ |
| 10:00.06 | Mikk | as if mp3s havent had vulnerabilities :P |
| 10:00.11 | Mikk | or some players anyway |
| 10:00.22 | ckknight | doom0r: made a dwarf female |
| 10:00.59 | doom0r | all 7 of my banks are female dwarves |
| 10:01.08 | Mikk | ... |
| 10:01.09 | Mikk | 7 |
| 10:01.22 | Mikk | i thought 4 was a lot :S |
| 10:01.37 | doom0r | 1's a cloth bank, 1's a snowball bank |
| 10:01.52 | exor674 | how many snowballs do you HAVE? |
| 10:01.55 | Mikk | i have cloth, herbs, misc, ... |
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| 10:02.00 | doom0r | 1.4k |
| 10:02.07 | Mikk | oh and i'm abusing my GMship by having my own private gbank tab |
| 10:02.09 | sacarasc | -1.4k snowballs? :o |
| 10:02.09 | Mikk | >:] |
| 10:02.10 | sacarasc | why? |
| 10:02.16 | doom0r | why not? |
| 10:02.30 | ckknight | what do snowballs even do? |
| 10:02.33 | ckknight | what is their worth? |
| 10:02.34 | doom0r | shit takes snowballs, screw that assmaster 9000 |
| 10:02.36 | ckknight | to keep a bank for |
| 10:02.36 | sacarasc | because you'll never need them all |
| 10:02.59 | exor674 | also... you can get endless snowballs now haha |
| 10:03.01 | Trell- | summoning the winter helper |
| 10:03.06 | doom0r | while true, i'll never ever have to collect one either |
| 10:03.14 | exor674 | pretty sure storm peaks has year round snowballs |
| 10:03.24 | doom0r | have yet to see one |
| 10:03.27 | doom0r | and their marked holiday |
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| 10:03.36 | Arrowmaster | they come from the dailies |
| 10:04.19 | doom0r | well, either way, i have all 10 classes and am basically self sufficient |
| 10:04.29 | doom0r | so the banks do their work |
| 10:04.32 | ckknight | that's an MMO for ya |
| 10:04.41 | ckknight | to make it so one person can be self-sufficient |
| 10:04.54 | ckknight | and not need other people in an inherently online game |
| 10:05.01 | the-golem | lo. |
| 10:05.02 | the-golem | l |
| 10:05.20 | doom0r | =\ |
| 10:05.33 | doom0r | i get begged to do naxx 25 and the like all the time and turn it down :X |
| 10:05.42 | doom0r | got plenty to do |
| 10:06.00 | doom0r | people are too addicted to raiding |
| 10:06.15 | exor674 | what, freeze yourself to death in your 1.4k snowball collection? |
| 10:06.18 | Arrowmaster | lol bangerz has a premium paypal account |
| 10:06.56 | the-golem | lol |
| 10:07.19 | the-golem | go to silithus or some other dry place and freeze it over with them snowballs |
| 10:07.19 | doom0r | i don't see what's funny |
| 10:07.21 | Arrowmaster | hes probably the only person using the paypal button feature on curseforge |
| 10:07.33 | ckknight | what's a good mail addon? |
| 10:07.37 | doom0r | mmm |
| 10:07.40 | doom0r | bulkmail2 |
| 10:07.40 | Shefki | I use Postal |
| 10:07.49 | doom0r | but ftlog bugged |
| 10:07.57 | doom0r | well, interation with tablet |
| 10:08.15 | doom0r | depends on your needs |
| 10:08.23 | doom0r | postal for quick limited stuff |
| 10:08.30 | doom0r | bm2 for the banker supreme |
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| 10:08.44 | Fisker- | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=7575928637&sid=1 <-haha |
| 10:08.51 | Shefki | I mostly just use Postal to remember who I last mailed to since I only use one bank character. |
| 10:08.53 | doom0r | well, actually i prefer bm2 regardless, but that's imo |
| 10:09.34 | ckknight | Shefki: hehe |
| 10:09.53 | Wizardling | okay, obviously I don't know how to change prat's size... |
| 10:09.56 | Fisker- | bawww |
| 10:10.00 | Fisker- | it wasn't the real one :( |
| 10:10.05 | Wizardling | is it not the frames settings? |
| 10:10.34 | doom0r | wow |
| 10:10.38 | Trell- | Fisker-; whats funnier about that thread |
| 10:10.42 | doom0r | people are so dumb their feedign the troll |
| 10:10.43 | Trell- | is that he says he 'dumped' her. |
| 10:10.49 | doom0r | it's a troll |
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| 10:11.56 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: why hasnt bangerz been banned yet? hes fucking with yet another library now |
| 10:12.20 | ckknight | Kaelten: can we ban bangerz? he's being a douchebag |
| 10:12.24 | Wizardling | Is there a guide to Prat anywhere you guys know of? |
| 10:12.38 | sztanpet | a guide? |
| 10:12.41 | sztanpet | that hard huh |
| 10:12.41 | ckknight | Wizardling: I use Chatter |
| 10:12.52 | the-golem | Chatter is nice too |
| 10:13.15 | Wizardling | it's either badly broken or strange as hell to configure |
| 10:13.23 | Wizardling | Chatter... *looks it up* |
| 10:14.14 | the-golem | actually, because im especially lazy, I use CaithUI (which uses Chatter) |
| 10:14.18 | the-golem | hides. |
| 10:14.23 | Trell- | one thing that I'm sure used to be in Prat 2.0 but doesn't seem to work in 3.0 |
| 10:14.31 | Arrowmaster | he seems to have taken a really old version of LibBars-1.0 and made some modifications and named it BLibBars-1.0 with a tiny readme saying he basicly ripped Antiarc's work modified it, and that Antiarc isnt responsible for this modified version, but ofcourse we all know that nobody is going to ever read that readme besides me |
| 10:14.35 | Trell- | is ctrl + arrow key |
| 10:14.45 | Trell- | to skip to the start of a word in a chatbox |
| 10:15.07 | Shefki | What's the license on LibBars-1.0? |
| 10:15.12 | Wizardling | Trell - can you get Prat's modules to enable? |
| 10:15.18 | Trell- | yes. |
| 10:15.23 | Wizardling | all of them? |
| 10:15.33 | Trell- | no idea, I only enabled what I wanted |
| 10:15.53 | Trell- | are you using the /prat command to enable them? |
| 10:16.10 | Wizardling | because 6 seem broken |
| 10:16.13 | Wizardling | yes |
| 10:16.19 | Trell- | what modules? |
| 10:16.20 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: dont see one |
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| 10:16.23 | Trell- | I'll try enabling them now |
| 10:16.25 | Wizardling | AddonMsgs |
| 10:16.31 | Wizardling | very first one for example |
| 10:16.44 | Trell- | enabled it |
| 10:16.53 | Trell- | and it gave me a nice message about reloading UI |
| 10:17.05 | the-golem | technically, what he did was a "fork", which is "legal" as long as he says he forked it |
| 10:17.06 | Trell- | "This option change may not take full effect until you [Reload] your UI." |
| 10:17.10 | the-golem | paraphrasing, but, meh |
| 10:17.49 | Shefki | the-golem: Actually if there's no license then it's not legal at all. |
| 10:17.58 | Wizardling | okay, I've enabled it too... now I restart WoW and it'll be disabled again |
| 10:18.03 | Arrowmaster | oh wtf |
| 10:18.03 | Shefki | No license = All Rights Reserved. |
| 10:18.13 | Trell- | ah right |
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| 10:18.24 | Trell- | I can't restart wow atm, auctioneer scanning ftw |
| 10:18.38 | Arrowmaster | hes bot both LibBars-1.0 and his BLibBars-1.0 and both are his modified one |
| 10:18.42 | the-golem | no license = impossible to enforce. also |
| 10:18.59 | Arrowmaster | seriously i want to ban him |
| 10:19.09 | Arrowmaster | can i ckk |
| 10:19.18 | Shefki | the-golem: No it's not. |
| 10:19.23 | Wizardling | NP :-) |
| 10:19.26 | Shefki | the-golem: Copyright law doesn't' even require a copyright notice. |
| 10:19.33 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: yes, but make sure to give lots of detail about why he's being banned |
| 10:19.35 | Shefki | the-golem: Don't spew nonsnese. |
| 10:19.39 | ckknight | and try to feign professionalism |
| 10:19.45 | Arrowmaster | damnit |
| 10:20.10 | Arrowmaster | ok ill ban him for copyright violations |
| 10:20.23 | Arrowmaster | and being a security risk |
| 10:20.25 | Wizardling | What the hell... okay, everything stayed enabled this time |
| 10:20.34 | Wizardling | I mean I'm noy complaining |
| 10:20.48 | Shefki | the-golem: Specifically google for The Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works. |
| 10:20.58 | Wizardling | but how can Prat be so in consistent? |
| 10:21.01 | the-golem | I'll spew as much as I want. You really think someone is going to go all apeshit over some piddly lua code? |
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| 10:21.31 | Arrowmaster | the-golem: *cough* |
| 10:21.41 | Arrowmaster | do you know who you are talking to? |
| 10:21.44 | Shefki | the-golem: I'd say Arrowmaster is going "apeshit" right now. |
| 10:21.53 | Wobin | hehe |
| 10:22.18 | doom0r | copyright and license are two completely different things |
| 10:22.31 | doom0r | license or lack thereof does not imply forfeit of copyright |
| 10:23.45 | Trell- | Wizardling; did you enable, reloadUI, then restart= |
| 10:23.51 | Trell- | *? |
| 10:23.51 | Wobin | lack of license implies full copyright |
| 10:24.16 | Wobin | if you want to make it free, you need to explicitly state it so |
| 10:25.02 | Wobin | Also, copyright is copyright, whether it's for a opus from a grand master or "piddly lua code" |
| 10:25.28 | Arrowmaster | or a haiku |
| 10:25.36 | Wobin | Indeed. |
| 10:25.38 | Arrowmaster | which is even small than piddly lua code |
| 10:25.46 | Shefki | To a point, it has to be sufficiently creative to qualify for copyright. But that standard is even pretty damn low. |
| 10:25.55 | Wobin | I dunno, Some of Tekk's work could fit into 15 syllables |
| 10:26.05 | Wobin | or is it 18? |
| 10:26.16 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 10:26.22 | Shefki | 17 |
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| 10:26.26 | Wobin | aha! |
| 10:26.42 | Arrowmaster | now youve started a challenge, an addon and haiku in one |
| 10:26.42 | Shefki | 5, 7, 5 |
| 10:27.04 | doom0r | mmm, not true, copyright varies on body of work "types" |
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| 10:28.29 | Shefki | doom0r: There are some differences but it's almost entirely about what the exclusive rights are. |
| 10:28.37 | Wobin | in what sense doom0r? |
| 10:28.58 | Shefki | Wobin: There's no public performance exclusive right for software for instance. |
| 10:28.59 | doom0r | ways in which it has to be filed for legally |
| 10:29.08 | doom0r | ^ |
| 10:29.11 | Wobin | cause really, when I say "copyright is copyright" it's more in the ridiculously tautological way =P |
| 10:29.15 | doom0r | and length |
| 10:29.41 | Shefki | doom0r: You no longer have to technically file for copyrighht, though if you don't you're limited in the damages you can collect. |
| 10:29.47 | Wobin | I wonder if bangerz could file for "use of parody" =P |
| 10:29.55 | doom0r | Shefki: music and scripts |
| 10:30.16 | Shefki | doom0r: Doesn't matter. That all changed in the 80's when the US finally signed the Berne Convention. |
| 10:30.33 | Arrowmaster | somebody said one of his addons whispers him if you are on his server and target him right? |
| 10:30.46 | doom0r | Arrowmaster: megalon |
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| 10:31.27 | Wobin | Under the Convention, copyrights for creative works are automatically in force upon their creation without being asserted or declared. An author need not "register" or "apply for" a copyright in countries adhering to the Convention. As soon as a work is "fixed", that is, written or recorded on some physical medium, its author is automatically entitled to all copyrights in the work and to any derivative works, unless and until the author expli |
| 10:31.27 | Wobin | citly disclaims them or until the copyright expires |
| 10:31.54 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: um, that was... the wintergrasp timer one |
| 10:31.55 | Wobin | wasn't it? |
| 10:32.08 | Arrowmaster | thought it was bangpvp |
| 10:32.10 | Wizardling | okay, now I get |
| 10:32.16 | Wizardling | [23:31:34] [S] [1:Bainawee]: hi (CHAT_MSG_SAY) |
| 10:32.16 | Wobin | oh no idea then |
| 10:32.17 | Wizardling | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.33 | Wizardling | what is the "(CHAT_MSG_SAY)" bit? |
| 10:32.36 | Wobin | have you got devtools running? |
| 10:32.38 | Shefki | Incidentally, hard disks constitute a physical medium. So software is generally fixed immediately. :) |
| 10:32.39 | Arrowmaster | disable the debug modules? |
| 10:33.23 | Wobin | Wizardling: but in general those bits are the events being called for that line |
| 10:33.32 | Skellum | Mmm....Wowace people...knowing about the legality behind software? Where on earth would that come in handy? Brb time to update mods with wowmatrix |
| 10:33.34 | Wizardling | ah, NM |
| 10:33.38 | Wizardling | found the option |
| 10:33.59 | Shefki | Skellum: lol |
| 10:34.04 | Grum | kills Skellum with a cat's whisker |
| 10:34.05 | Skellum | :D |
| 10:34.22 | Skellum | So long as it isnt a super mutant, those things are pissing me off, damned ammo sponges |
| 10:35.52 | ckknight | fires his fat boy |
| 10:35.54 | Fisker- | drives over ckknight |
| 10:36.08 | Grum | stop humping ckknight Fisker- |
| 10:36.23 | Fisker- | wanna fight about it? |
| 10:36.53 | Grum | yes! |
| 10:36.59 | Grum | kills Fisker- |
| 10:37.01 | Grum | wins |
| 10:37.29 | ckknight | gz, Grum |
| 10:37.35 | ckknight | Grum gets a cookie |
| 10:38.01 | Fisker- | fu |
| 10:38.01 | Fisker- | i wasn't ready |
| 10:38.14 | Grum | not my problem you couldnt get it up in time |
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| 10:38.35 | EthanCentaurai | all's fair in a game of love and WarCraft |
| 10:38.35 | Nizomi | hi, does anyone know if its possible to read out data about the market price of an item from auctioneer? |
| 10:38.51 | Grum | Nizomi: you are in the wrong channel for that :) |
| 10:38.55 | Grum | try #norganna |
| 10:39.11 | Nizomi | k xD |
| 10:39.21 | the-golem | hrmph |
| 10:39.26 | the-golem | mouse died |
| 10:40.28 | doom0r | shoulda fed it |
| 10:40.55 | the-golem | yah |
| 10:41.10 | the-golem | it eats live kittens though |
| 10:46.11 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Daviesh * r159 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: Minor Spanish update |
| 10:47.30 | Nizomi | hm any acegui stuff? theres nothing about that in the getting started guide :/ |
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| 10:52.11 | Arrowmaster | muahahaha |
| 10:52.14 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/paste/iu8hpt930qwxz2oy/ |
| 10:52.21 | Arrowmaster | Bangerz has been banned |
| 10:53.42 | sacarasc | i know not this Bangerz person, but if what you pastes is true, it doesn't seem a bad thing |
| 10:54.04 | ckknight | his banning? |
| 10:54.10 | ckknight | or what he did |
| 10:54.24 | Shefki | sacarasc: It's a community based largely on sharing. |
| 10:54.40 | Shefki | Obfuscating code is pretty silly for that. |
| 10:54.42 | sacarasc | his banning isn't bad, obfuscating is annoying |
| 10:55.01 | Grum | where is his code? |
| 10:55.07 | Arrowmaster | wana make bets on if he counters with that his addons EULA forbids 'decrypting' it so theres no way we could have known about the whisper feature without violating his EULA? |
| 10:55.33 | Arrowmaster | Grum: anything starting with 'Bang! *' |
| 10:55.35 | Shefki | What's his addons? |
| 10:55.35 | robotusch | how exactly does one create a time limited trial addon? o_O |
| 10:55.39 | Shefki | nm |
| 10:56.06 | Arrowmaster | robotusch: saved var that stores the data on first run |
| 10:56.06 | Nechckn | Arrowmaster that sort of thing makes me want to claw eyes! |
| 10:56.06 | Grum | nothing is found ofc |
| 10:56.08 | Nechckn | Of those who do it, that is... =) |
| 10:56.27 | Arrowmaster | Grum: you could goto his bangcraft website |
| 10:56.42 | Grum | google has no hits on that :) |
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| 10:56.50 | Grum | ah found it |
| 10:57.03 | doom0r | you fail |
| 10:57.05 | doom0r | it's number 1 |
| 10:57.19 | doom0r | it's teh freakin url |
| 10:57.43 | Grum | hehe i t actually had 4 suggestions higher than his url :D |
| 10:58.01 | sacarasc | how many were porn? |
| 10:58.14 | Grum | none .. it was 'bagcraft' :D |
| 10:58.45 | sacarasc | it was 3rd for me (uk google) |
| 10:58.45 | doom0r | huge huge player in making bags for stuff like mcdonalds |
| 10:58.49 | doom0r | my landlord works for them |
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| 11:02.02 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: so all his addons are going to sit still available and he wont be able to touch them? |
| 11:02.15 | ckknight | yea, or you could delete the addons |
| 11:02.24 | sztanpet | the ban reason should be there after deleting his addons |
| 11:02.39 | Grum | i bet he stole most of the code used in his addons anyhow |
| 11:02.40 | Arrowmaster | maybe later after he has to explain on other sites and his website why he cant update them on curse |
| 11:03.00 | Arrowmaster | yes im mean |
| 11:03.41 | doom0r | no, don't enable distribution |
| 11:03.48 | Grum | Will auto-drop treeform on banish attempt and MORE! <--- wtf... you can do that? :) |
| 11:04.17 | Shefki | Grum: Don't think so anymore. |
| 11:04.21 | Arrowmaster | Grum: its just a cancelaura call |
| 11:04.31 | Shefki | I was thinking they finally protected that. |
| 11:04.36 | Grum | yes but that seems to be too much automated |
| 11:04.40 | Grum | i sure hope so |
| 11:04.41 | Arrowmaster | did they protect that or did they end up changing druid furor? |
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| 11:06.06 | Shefki | That's right, they protected it briefly in beta and then undid it. |
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| 11:06.34 | Grum | stupid stuff |
| 11:07.53 | the-golem | lol wtf |
| 11:07.58 | the-golem | "trial" addons? |
| 11:08.52 | the-golem | thats like, perposefully coding a feature, only to replace it with an Error: Feature not allowed on trial, please register. |
| 11:08.55 | the-golem | what a tool. |
| 11:09.08 | Grum | erm his addons are sortof encoded :D |
| 11:09.10 | Shefki | His AntiSpam addon looks like it has some code ripped from BadBoy. |
| 11:09.25 | Grum | wth |
| 11:09.47 | Grum | his 'Core' addon has all the ace1/ace2/ace3 libs in it o.O |
| 11:09.55 | Arrowmaster | yes he doesnt even use them |
| 11:10.20 | Grum | which file actually decodes the mess? |
| 11:10.25 | ckknight | but they're better |
| 11:10.27 | ckknight | cause it's ace'd |
| 11:10.29 | Arrowmaster | aceconfigregistery-3.0 has part of his decode crap hidden in it |
| 11:10.41 | Arrowmaster | http://shadowed.pastey.net/105426 |
| 11:10.43 | Grum | lol |
| 11:11.36 | the-golem | does banish have a cast time? |
| 11:11.39 | Bruners | yes |
| 11:11.41 | Grum | yes |
| 11:11.43 | Thrae | If you Ace3 the Ace2 libs which are Ace2 the Ace1 libs, by my calculations, your addon will take up -15% resources. |
| 11:11.45 | the-golem | ah |
| 11:12.12 | Grum | seriously |
| 11:12.14 | Grum | what a fucking tool |
| 11:12.14 | the-golem | Oh no, I'm gonna be banished, *poof* |
| 11:12.20 | Grum | good job killing his ass |
| 11:12.24 | Shefki | That's actually pretty cool. |
| 11:12.25 | Grum | trial addons .. lol |
| 11:12.30 | the-golem | Seriously |
| 11:12.50 | Shefki | If that becomes common you can bet Blizzard will fix it. |
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| 11:12.56 | the-golem | Yeah, it is. I know plenty of trees that've been banished in arena |
| 11:13.12 | Shefki | I'd just not use tree if there's a lock. |
| 11:13.19 | Wizardling | if nothing else I'd have thought a chat mod would easily allow me to join other channels such as trade |
| 11:13.20 | the-golem | True story. |
| 11:13.26 | Arrowmaster | you can just right click the tree form buff |
| 11:13.31 | the-golem | How would it detect if you don't have the lock targeted? |
| 11:13.32 | Wizardling | but I can't even figure out how to do that |
| 11:13.39 | Wizardling | *headdesk* |
| 11:13.40 | Shefki | the-golem: CLEU |
| 11:14.38 | Arrowmaster | you could do something like FreeMe even and make it deshift you one frame after you get banished, that way you dont leave on only attempts |
| 11:14.49 | Arrowmaster | especially if you arent even the target of it |
| 11:15.14 | Bruners | is there anyone using his registered addons? |
| 11:15.30 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: if you're not playing with another druid or a lock you're the only possible target. |
| 11:15.31 | Grum | ofc not |
| 11:15.48 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: dont forget frost mage |
| 11:16.05 | Shefki | And I guess Shaman too. |
| 11:16.10 | the-golem | sorry, CLEU? |
| 11:16.16 | the-golem | is a nubcake |
| 11:16.19 | Shefki | Combat Log Event Unfiltered. |
| 11:16.31 | Arrowmaster | you cant use shaman elemental totems in arena though |
| 11:16.41 | Shefki | Ahh true. |
| 11:16.52 | the-golem | aha |
| 11:17.50 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Does canceling the tree form free you from the banish? Didn't think it did. |
| 11:17.58 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 11:17.58 | Grum | no |
| 11:18.02 | Grum | you cant do any action afaik |
| 11:18.13 | Arrowmaster | you can still right click the tree form buff |
| 11:18.14 | the-golem | before or after the banish? |
| 11:18.16 | Shefki | Canceling a buff isn't an action though. |
| 11:18.24 | Grum | oh true because its not protected |
| 11:18.27 | Shefki | Well you can remove the buff but you'd stay banished. |
| 11:18.36 | Arrowmaster | just like how youve always been able to dismount while saped and such |
| 11:18.37 | Shefki | So it'd prevent a chain banish. |
| 11:18.49 | Arrowmaster | it removes the banish |
| 11:18.58 | Thrae | I know from experience that Hibernate is not removed if you cancel your Feral form, so I'm guessing it's the same with Banish. |
| 11:19.01 | Arrowmaster | or atleast it did when i tested it back when 2.0 went live |
| 11:19.20 | Shefki | I'm almost positive you're wrong. I know if I sleep a druid in travel form they can shift out of it but they stay slept. |
| 11:19.21 | the-golem | 2.0? |
| 11:19.24 | the-golem | ;-) |
| 11:19.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah i pvped a lot between 2.0 and TBC release |
| 11:19.49 | Arrowmaster | probably the height of my pvp time |
| 11:19.56 | the-golem | ah |
| 11:20.00 | Shefki | I get a chuckle out of druids that don't shift out of sleep and let me chain sleep them. |
| 11:20.09 | Thrae | But WotLK has super-PvP omg |
| 11:20.19 | doom0r | Wizardling: in or out of a city? |
| 11:20.45 | the-golem | should be automatic, no? |
| 11:21.03 | Shefki | Anyway you could probably keep track if there's a pet out on your team that could be banished and immediately cancel if there isn't one. |
| 11:21.21 | Shefki | There's an event when someone gains a pet always now isn't there. |
| 11:21.23 | Bruners | poor bangerz |
| 11:21.39 | the-golem | lmao |
| 11:22.13 | the-golem | if by poor, you mean "you deserved it", then, Yes |
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| 11:22.39 | Shefki | Bet you could even wait a bit to suck up as much of the locks cast time as possible. |
| 11:23.23 | the-golem | so they don't cancel, heeh, thats evil |
| 11:23.52 | the-golem | by the by, Spell Reflect on sheep is hilarious |
| 11:25.16 | doom0r | if they're using sheep, yes |
| 11:25.20 | doom0r | they damn well deserve it |
| 11:25.22 | doom0r | scrubs |
| 11:25.32 | Shefki | At any rate I'm not gonna write such an addon. |
| 11:25.45 | Shefki | Because if it becomes popular it most certainly will result in nerfage to CancelUnitBuff |
| 11:25.55 | doom0r | no doubt |
| 11:26.04 | Shefki | And that means it becomes protected and it means writing aura mods becomes an even bigger headache. |
| 11:26.34 | Grum | why would you need aura mods anyhow? |
| 11:26.43 | doom0r | ... |
| 11:26.53 | doom0r | smacks Grum |
| 11:27.03 | Grum | looking at auras will never be a problem |
| 11:27.11 | Grum | but changing them should be considered spellcasts |
| 11:27.16 | doom0r | blizz! |
| 11:27.33 | doom0r | they'd probably protect crap that has to do with auction house scanning |
| 11:28.03 | doom0r | and night elf shoulder sizes would get changed again |
| 11:28.08 | Shefki | Grum: If they protect the function then we'd have to use secure templates for aura mods becuase you can cancel your buffs usually since they're intended to completely replace blizzards UI. |
| 11:28.25 | the-golem | shefki: would a macro work? |
| 11:28.28 | Repo | 10libsimpletimer-1-0: 03Whitetooth * r32 LibSimpleTimer-1.0.lua: |
| 11:28.31 | Repo | - :IsTimerScheduled(name) returns nil instead of false if the timer is not scheduled |
| 11:28.39 | Grum | mmm true |
| 11:28.39 | Shefki | the-golem: You can't run macros from insecure code. |
| 11:28.47 | Shefki | So same thing. |
| 11:29.04 | the-golem | ah |
| 11:29.41 | Nizomi | so uh |
| 11:30.04 | Nizomi | if i have a sub-folder called blub, do I add blub\blub.lua or just blub.lua to the toc? |
| 11:30.12 | Shefki | So as cool as it is, I'm not gonna make my life more difficult with PitBull_Aura for something that they will fix. |
| 11:30.21 | Shefki | blub.lua |
| 11:30.22 | doom0r | define parent, start over |
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| 11:33.31 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r23 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added item ignore list |
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| 11:53.14 | Repo | -fixed uid assignment in shopping trade link (again) |
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| 11:58.43 | Repo | 10catfight: 03Pzychotix * r11 CatFight.lua: |
| 11:58.45 | Repo | Changed name checks to use GetSpellInfo for universal localization. |
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| 12:01.25 | Repo | 10catfight: 03Pzychotix 04v0.1 r12 * r12 : Changed detection to be more dynamic and less hardcoded. |
| 12:01.28 | Repo | Changed spellnames to use GetSpellInfo to hopefully have Universal Localization. |
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| 12:19.09 | Wizardling | sorry about the bitching earlier - few moments of extreme frustration. Now with a late night beer things are more in perspective. I can start enjoying addon setup again |
| 12:20.45 | Repo | 10grid-status-res: 03Azethoth * r40 libs/: -- add externals prop |
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| 12:24.12 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r134 modules (16 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:24.14 | Repo | Recommitting all modules to make sure all procs are up-to-date. |
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| 12:40.27 | Arrowmaster | you know you have issues when you are looking at a 350 KB/s download and wishing it could be going twice as fast |
| 12:43.50 | quiescens | depends what you're trying to download I guess |
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| 12:44.55 | Luthorhuss | ~seen Hjalte |
| 12:44.56 | purl | hjalte <n=chatzill@62.242.38.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 7d 12h 38m 52s ago, saying: 'ckknight: I know most of them are probably bogus, but I have a bad memory :)'. |
| 12:45.51 | Xinhuan | must be porn Arrowmaster |
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| 12:47.30 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 12:47.43 | Arrowmaster | new anime ep |
| 12:50.32 | Wizardling | Would WIM and Prat coexist? |
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| 12:51.29 | EthanCentaurai | WIM and Prat are happy, I use both |
| 12:51.32 | Arrowmaster | if you use the latest versions of each |
| 12:52.27 | sylvanaar | pazza and i worked together to make sure they did |
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| 12:53.48 | Repo | 10chinon: 03Sidoine * r66 / (7 files in 2 directories): Chinon: |
| 12:53.51 | Repo | - can display a debuff icon (default: Forbearance or Weakened Soul) |
| 12:53.53 | Repo | - bug fix: group number not shown |
| 12:53.56 | Repo | - bug fix: self buff hidden after a change to the configuration |
| 12:54.14 | Repo | 10chinon: 03Sidoine 043.0.8 * r67 : Chinon: |
| 12:54.16 | Repo | - new tag |
| 12:54.47 | Wizardling | TY EthanCenta :-) |
| 12:54.59 | EthanCentaurai | do Priests get any damaging AOE spells? the silithid swarmers wtfpwn me in no time at all ;_; |
| 12:55.05 | EthanCentaurai | np Wizardling :) |
| 12:55.16 | nevcairiel | holy nova does dmg |
| 12:55.26 | EthanCentaurai | I'm shadow spec'd |
| 12:55.42 | nevcairiel | on 80 or so you get an aoe, then |
| 12:56.07 | nevcairiel | or rather, 75 |
| 12:56.42 | EthanCentaurai | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48045 |
| 12:56.46 | EthanCentaurai | that one |
| 12:58.59 | Fisker- | mind sear is op |
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| 13:03.34 | Nizomi | uh |
| 13:03.37 | Nizomi | whats the current biggest bag? |
| 13:03.39 | Nizomi | 20? 22? |
| 13:04.01 | kilrogg | 32 ... scribe's bag |
| 13:04.22 | Bruners | 22 regular bag http://www.wowhead.com/?items=1.0#0-8+1 |
| 13:04.29 | Olison | http://www.wowhead.com/?items=1.0#0-8+1 |
| 13:04.31 | Olison | arr |
| 13:04.33 | Olison | :D |
| 13:04.51 | Bruners | ~fail Olison |
| 13:04.51 | purl | Olison, you Fail! |
| 13:05.03 | Olison | :`-( |
| 13:05.07 | Bruners | :P |
| 13:05.23 | Nizomi | ah ty |
| 13:05.34 | Fisker- | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23162 |
| 13:05.35 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 13:05.36 | Wizardling | Using /2 won't change to the second channel in WoW using Prat & WIM |
| 13:05.42 | Wizardling | odd |
| 13:06.44 | Olison | Wizardling: maybe you want to replace WIM? Try Cellular |
| 13:07.30 | Wizardling | I've heard of that |
| 13:07.33 | sylvanaar | well, unless it broke this am, they have both been working fine sine 3.0 |
| 13:08.00 | sylvanaar | someone would have noticed not being able to use /2 |
| 13:08.07 | Wizardling | can you use /1, /2 etc to change channels you're typing too? |
| 13:08.32 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 13:08.48 | Wizardling | sighs |
| 13:08.58 | Wizardling | is there a setting that disables this? |
| 13:09.02 | sylvanaar | no |
| 13:09.08 | Wizardling | that I might have set accidently? |
| 13:09.12 | Wizardling | LOL |
| 13:09.28 | sylvanaar | maybe you arent in /2 |
| 13:09.31 | Wizardling | awwww crap |
| 13:09.38 | Wizardling | I'm in 1 |
| 13:09.42 | Wizardling | I want to switch to 2 |
| 13:10.18 | Wizardling | all I get is [02:09:59] Type '/help' for a listing of a few commands. |
| 13:10.33 | Wizardling | suddenly WoW doesn't accept /# |
| 13:14.52 | sylvanaar | ~ /join trade /leave trade |
| 13:16.13 | Wizardling | no trade |
| 13:16.25 | Wizardling | but /join LocalDefence resulted in... nothing. |
| 13:16.27 | Wizardling | gods |
| 13:16.36 | Wizardling | something's seriously f**ked up |
| 13:18.39 | Wizardling | shit, I restarted and I get ONE chance to change from say to another channel, then I'm locked in |
| 13:24.45 | Wizardling | well it is prat's fault |
| 13:24.58 | Wizardling | I disabled WIM and it makes no difference |
| 13:26.09 | sylvanaar | try chatter |
| 13:26.24 | Wizardling | okay, weirder - a restart fixed things |
| 13:26.36 | Wizardling | you're right - I should just move on :-D |
| 13:27.20 | Wizardling | I'm constantly coming up against buggy addons and beating my head against them for hours, when I should just move on. |
| 13:27.52 | Wizardling | God I hope Grid and MetaHUD work.... (PitBull 3 was a no go) |
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| 13:30.02 | Arrowmaster | i ditched prat long ago and moved to chatter for similar reasons |
| 13:32.59 | sylvanaar | whatever Arrowmaster |
| 13:36.53 | Gnarfoz | obviously prat's fault when restarting his client worked :p |
| 13:37.10 | sylvanaar | yep, obviously |
| 13:37.14 | Fisker- | i changed to chatter because i secretly love Antiarc |
| 13:37.33 | jnwhiteh|sleep | i changed to chatter because i secretly am Antiarc |
| 13:37.34 | Gnarfoz | and his second to last line suggests he's *doing it wrong* :p |
| 13:37.39 | Gnarfoz | jnwhiteh|sleep: lies |
| 13:38.57 | jnwhiteh | Gnarfoz: unbeliever |
| 13:39.06 | Gnarfoz | I'm a heretic |
| 13:40.39 | Wizardling | LOL |
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| 13:48.53 | Repo | 10catfight: 03Pzychotix * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added in many slash commands (add/remove, hide/show, list). |
| 13:50.49 | Repo | 10catfight: 03Pzychotix 04v0.2 release * r14 : v0.2 release. Added in multiple slash commands. |
| 13:54.09 | Wizardling | Or lord - just had a level 42 ask me (a level one Hunter - cause I've switched ealms) how to whisper |
| 13:54.22 | Wizardling | how do you get that high without being social ONCE> |
| 13:54.24 | Wizardling | ? |
| 14:00.46 | Pzyk | by soloing? |
| 14:00.55 | Pzyk | s'not like you need to group up till 80. |
| 14:02.00 | Bruners | what addons suppresses addon loading spam ? |
| 14:02.55 | Arrowmaster | stopthespam did |
| 14:03.11 | Arrowmaster | i think chatter has an unintended side effect of doing it |
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| 14:05.55 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: what module would that be? |
| 14:06.30 | Bruners | i honestly dont see why addons need to say that they are loaded |
| 14:06.35 | Arrowmaster | whichever one now has the code to show the guild motd after a delay |
| 14:06.54 | Arrowmaster | Bruners: thats the exact reason i wrote TrainWhistle |
| 14:07.30 | Arrowmaster | somebody made an addon that did the same thing TrainWhistle does but it has both chatframe and uierrorsframe spam on load, and only worked on english locale |
| 14:08.48 | Bruners | i can understand it if got something usefull to show, like /slash to config. but the hi im now loaded shit .... |
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| 14:28.10 | Repo | 10accomplishment: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.1.0-1-g91ce312 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Add an "All" button to manually congratulate everyone in the list (button is disabled if only one name is shown). |
| 14:28.29 | sylvanaar | whichever module in chatter lets you set the size of the scrollback buffer also will clear load spam |
| 14:29.18 | SunTsu | Bruners: I think there are enough dumb people out there who will think that an addon is not loaded unless it says so loudly |
| 14:30.51 | sylvanaar | if it loaded silently someone would call it spyware im sure |
| 14:31.12 | Bruners | haha |
| 14:31.19 | sylvanaar | you know im right too |
| 14:33.47 | EthanCentaurai | adds some "Hi! I am loaded!" shit to Accomplishment, to show it's not spyware |
| 14:33.51 | sylvanaar | its a geek thing, you sound smarter if you are critical of things people understand, and praise things they dont |
| 14:33.53 | EthanCentaurai | :P |
| 14:35.23 | Fisker- | nah |
| 14:35.30 | Fisker- | It just has to go: |
| 14:36.09 | Fisker- | "This message: <insert message> was blocked to prevent load spam" |
| 14:36.09 | Fisker- | for each message it blocks of course |
| 14:36.15 | sylvanaar | reroute it to the raidwarning |
| 14:36.27 | Pneumatus | sylvanaar: Prat's URL linker thingy cocks up on *.uk domains, should i make a ticket somewhere? |
| 14:36.38 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster |
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| 14:37.07 | Arrowmaster | ? |
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| 14:37.17 | selckin | i want a filterignore addon :\, you add ppl to a filter list, addon then goes "<name> [click here to see message]", so i can filter all the morons i don't care about in my guild, but stil see they talk so its not all confusing, and can read it if it seems important (during a raid) |
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| 14:38.29 | sylvanaar | neat idea selckin, though it ends up looking terrible |
| 14:38.46 | Fisker- | cocks Pneumatus :3 |
| 14:38.47 | selckin | maybe like [silenced], or route into a diffrend window only :\ |
| 14:39.14 | sylvanaar | i tried something like it for trade in prat - it never really looked right |
| 14:39.29 | selckin | as long as i don't have to read their bs, i'm happy! |
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| 14:40.07 | sylvanaar | youd need to filter out the line entirely. |
| 14:40.18 | SunTsu | I want irssi's /ignore -replies ;) |
| 14:41.03 | Wizardling | Is there a way to put Grid into a test mode? |
| 14:41.17 | Wizardling | so I can configure and position it? |
| 14:41.25 | Pneumatus | join AV |
| 14:41.26 | selckin | sylvanaar: anything that removes their text but lets me knwo they talked, so it's not comfusing when other ppl reply to them would be a huge win |
| 14:42.38 | Fisker- | Arrowmaster |
| 14:42.42 | Fisker- | trainwhistle says you suck |
| 14:42.57 | Fisker- | oh fu |
| 14:43.07 | Fisker- | fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 14:43.34 | Fisker- | you failed Arrowmaster |
| 14:44.10 | Fisker- | and chatter doesn't remove load spam :( |
| 14:44.27 | sylvanaar | set the scrollback history |
| 14:44.30 | sylvanaar | to another value |
| 14:44.45 | sylvanaar | its a sideeffect of doing that |
| 14:44.56 | sylvanaar | it clears the chatframe |
| 14:45.00 | Bruners | testing it now |
| 14:45.14 | Bruners | nothing |
| 14:45.23 | Bruners | that might sound wrong |
| 14:45.33 | Bruners | still addon spamn |
| 14:45.43 | sylvanaar | perhaps bliz stores that number now |
| 14:46.01 | sylvanaar | or chatter is loading earlier |
| 14:46.25 | Bruners | or maby that sideeffect was fixed? :P |
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| 14:46.53 | sylvanaar | that was the implication of the "stores that number" bit |
| 14:47.41 | sylvanaar | but does your frame have a differnt scrollback now? |
| 14:48.02 | Wizardling | Okay, so there's no way to configure Grid before you're in a 40 man raid? |
| 14:48.11 | Bruners | hard to tell when you just loaded up |
| 14:48.12 | Xinhuan | (alterac valley) |
| 14:48.33 | selckin | captcha for forum search? |
| 14:48.35 | selckin | i hate you all |
| 14:48.36 | sylvanaar | use print |
| 14:49.04 | sylvanaar | well, something that can print a table |
| 14:49.38 | Bruners | sylvanaar: do you use acehook to hook chat stuff? |
| 14:49.45 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 14:50.24 | Bruners | maby ill steal some code from prat then |
| 14:50.49 | Gnarfoz | Wizardling: that's not how it works. Pitbull does it, but then, it's a messy hack :p |
| 14:50.52 | sylvanaar | thats fine |
| 14:52.20 | Xinhuan | (alterac valley) |
| 14:52.27 | Wizardling | Gnarfoz - so there's no way at all to position it ahead of time? |
| 14:52.50 | Xinhuan | (alterac valley) |
| 14:53.00 | Bruners | Xinhuan: one more time, maby he gets it |
| 14:53.06 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 14:53.06 | sylvanaar | yes what Xinhuan says |
| 14:53.07 | Xinhuan | (alterac valley) |
| 14:53.13 | Gnarfoz | it has like... a non-transparent background |
| 14:53.18 | Gnarfoz | if you set it to 40man layout |
| 14:53.25 | Gnarfoz | ...it's kind of obvious how big it will be |
| 14:53.36 | Gnarfoz | if you want to configure how the actual subframes look... -> AV |
| 14:54.06 | sylvanaar | thats what av is there for |
| 14:54.28 | Fisker- | fail Arrowmaster |
| 14:54.34 | Gnarfoz | haven't found a more useful purpose for it in years |
| 14:54.38 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you're doing it wrong |
| 14:54.46 | Wizardling | AV? |
| 14:54.50 | Fisker- | no Gnarfoz |
| 14:54.52 | sylvanaar | they removed the fun to make it more useful |
| 14:54.56 | Xinhuan | ok he doesn't get it |
| 14:55.34 | Wizardling | alterac valley? |
| 14:55.53 | Bruners | Wizardling: join the battleground Alterac Valley (AV) which is a 40 man battleground |
| 14:57.06 | sylvanaar | its a place to fish, farm honor, configure your raid frames, and practice telling people they are stupid |
| 14:57.15 | Bruners | cant fish there anymore i think |
| 14:57.34 | Wizardling | I'm a level 1 Hunter |
| 14:57.36 | Bruners | you wont get any fish at least |
| 14:57.43 | Wizardling | this is a brand new start for me |
| 14:57.46 | Wizardling | gah |
| 14:57.50 | Bruners | then you dont need raid frames |
| 14:57.53 | sylvanaar | lol wtf |
| 14:57.55 | Bruners | yet |
| 14:57.55 | Wizardling | well, thanks anyway |
| 14:58.09 | Wizardling | I just want to setup my UI now |
| 14:58.11 | sylvanaar | you dont need grid |
| 14:58.18 | Bruners | and that |
| 14:58.19 | Wizardling | that's not unreasonable I think |
| 14:58.34 | Wizardling | Okay, Pitbull' |
| 14:58.38 | Wizardling | s buggy |
| 14:58.39 | sylvanaar | you target things and shoot them |
| 14:58.41 | Bruners | you wont need grid for atleast 79 more levels, if at all |
| 14:58.43 | Wizardling | Grid's hopeless |
| 14:58.46 | Wizardling | where now? |
| 14:58.51 | Wizardling | Xperl i suppose |
| 14:59.04 | EthanCentaurai | PerfectRaid :D |
| 14:59.11 | Wizardling | I enjoy doing a lot of lower level instances |
| 14:59.28 | Wizardling | so I'll need decent unit frames in like ten levels |
| 14:59.51 | EthanCentaurai | PerfectRaid supports parties aswell as raid groups |
| 15:00.34 | sylvanaar | you just need maybe 4 icons telling you who is still alive |
| 15:00.37 | Bruners | still dont see why you need decent party/raid frames as a hunter |
| 15:00.48 | sylvanaar | what info do you need |
| 15:01.04 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 15:01.05 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 15:01.18 | Wizardling | this hunter is just a placeholder |
| 15:01.27 | sylvanaar | for what |
| 15:01.43 | Wizardling | I'm thinking a resto shaman |
| 15:02.01 | sylvanaar | well, you should probably decide that first |
| 15:02.06 | Codayus | Heh |
| 15:02.16 | Wizardling | maybe I'll play a hunter again, but for now I just wanted a character in game on my new server to try out addons with |
| 15:03.47 | sylvanaar | well you can always invite all the other level 1s to a raid |
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| 15:04.45 | sylvanaar | we did 40 man level 1 gnome run IF to Menethil Harbor |
| 15:05.17 | Wizardling | LOL |
| 15:05.21 | Wizardling | excellent |
| 15:05.25 | pastamancer | I don't know why people think they need to be in a raid to configure grid... you can set it up to show when you're soloing |
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| 15:06.08 | Codayus | Well, your class and role matters a bit for addon choice. *shrug* |
| 15:06.16 | sylvanaar | your suggestion to go config in av is famous pastamancer |
| 15:06.24 | sylvanaar | you will never live it down |
| 15:06.29 | pastamancer | heh |
| 15:06.38 | pastamancer | it worked well at the time |
| 15:06.47 | pastamancer | I spent hours coding and testing in AV |
| 15:07.15 | Xinhuan | you can also do it in wintergrasp now |
| 15:07.22 | Xinhuan | except it only happens once per 2.5 hours |
| 15:07.26 | Xinhuan | and for 20 min |
| 15:07.35 | sylvanaar | lol, and you arent guarateed to be in the raid |
| 15:07.45 | Xinhuan | just spam for invites |
| 15:07.46 | sylvanaar | its got all the fail of the old av |
| 15:07.54 | Xinhuan | there's usually at least 3 raid groups up |
| 15:07.55 | sylvanaar | and none of the fun |
| 15:07.57 | Xinhuan | on both factions |
| 15:07.57 | quiescens | I like it when some rogue for example, exclaims that they don't have any raid frames whatsoever like its a feat of their skill |
| 15:07.58 | pastamancer | clearly they need a 25-man battleground so people can configure grid |
| 15:08.00 | Xinhuan | and its really fun |
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| 15:08.58 | Wizardling | "you can set it up to show when you're soloing" - how? |
| 15:09.07 | Wizardling | that's EXACTLY what i need to know dude |
| 15:09.12 | quiescens | Stuff like, "look how clean/simple my UI is", and you look, and they don't have party frames or raid frames and have like 1 bar |
| 15:09.16 | pastamancer | look under the layout menu |
| 15:09.23 | quiescens | you can just set it to show always or whatever |
| 15:09.24 | Wizardling | I did |
| 15:09.26 | quiescens | you'll only have the one frame |
| 15:09.28 | pastamancer | that's where all the hide/show stuff is |
| 15:09.32 | Codayus | It's a pretty obvious option... :-) |
| 15:09.32 | Wizardling | that's the point |
| 15:09.33 | Wizardling | one |
| 15:09.37 | quiescens | but that's enough for most setup purposes |
| 15:09.42 | quiescens | otherwise |
| 15:09.45 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 15:09.52 | Codayus | Wizardling: What else do you need? |
| 15:10.13 | Gnarfoz | that will not show the sub-frames |
| 15:10.15 | Gnarfoz | for everyone |
| 15:10.26 | Gnarfoz | which is the only difference to joining AV |
| 15:10.27 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 15:10.48 | sylvanaar | dummy data |
| 15:10.50 | Gnarfoz | and it's a conceptual problem because of the secure frame stuff, IIRC. ckk and pasta talked about it a while ago |
| 15:10.51 | quiescens | recount's "Battlegrounds" option, needs to count wintergrasp as a battleground |
| 15:11.01 | Gnarfoz | because PitBull has a "config mode" that pretends there's people around |
| 15:11.12 | quiescens | I don't really need it to track data for the 120 people that are standing still in wintergrasp fortress |
| 15:11.32 | Wizardling | If only Pitbull worked... |
| 15:11.36 | Gnarfoz | it works. |
| 15:11.50 | Wizardling | nope, it doesn't for setting up raid frames |
| 15:11.52 | Gnarfoz | but I'd be repeating myself if I blamed you. |
| 15:11.52 | Codayus | Yeah, but pitbull also treats player differently than raid members, yes? So it's a lot more useful than it would be for Grid... |
| 15:12.12 | Gnarfoz | Codayus: treats player differently how? ;O |
| 15:12.18 | Wizardling | you change the size of raid frames and main tanks, etc are also changed |
| 15:12.30 | Wizardling | you try to just change main tanks - not happening |
| 15:12.31 | Codayus | Gnarfoz: You can have different frame layout and display options. I think, no? |
| 15:13.07 | pastamancer | Wizardling: why do you need more than one frame visible to configure how grid looks? If I don't get feedback I can't make it better. |
| 15:14.04 | Gnarfoz | Codayus: ("..., no?" is not valid english btw) - yes, you can, but you could also disable the player frame and just have the raid frame corresponding to 'player' via it's 'raidXX' unitid |
| 15:15.03 | Wizardling | Well my goal is a good looking UI |
| 15:15.18 | Wizardling | and for that i need to position everything just so |
| 15:15.25 | Codayus | Gnarfoz: Actually, it is valid. It's just informal. :-) And yeah, but the point is, you CAN configure different frames differently, so being able to see at least one example of each is helpful. With Grid, there is one frame, so it's not really obvious why you'd want to see more of them... |
| 15:15.28 | Wizardling | The Align addon is excellent for this BTW |
| 15:15.56 | Gnarfoz | all Align does is give you a grid :O |
| 15:16.04 | pastamancer | so you want to see how much space grid will take up? |
| 15:16.13 | Wizardling | plus I don't want to get in a party only to have to stop everyone cause suddenly my UI's messed up by frames having expanded |
| 15:16.15 | Gnarfoz | and I still don't see how Grid is lacking anything in terms of pre-configurability |
| 15:16.36 | Wizardling | I guess if you don't care how your UI looks it's fine |
| 15:16.41 | Gnarfoz | uhh... |
| 15:16.45 | Gnarfoz | right |
| 15:16.49 | Xinhuan | Wizardling, i don't see why you can't join Alterac Valley |
| 15:16.50 | Wizardling | I just want to fit everything together well |
| 15:16.53 | Xinhuan | to do your config |
| 15:16.55 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: he's level 1 |
| 15:16.59 | Wizardling | I'm level 1 dude |
| 15:17.04 | Gnarfoz | Wizardling: you must be not reading or something. |
| 15:17.05 | Xinhuan | why does a fking lvl 1 need grid then |
| 15:17.11 | Xinhuan | do the config on a real toon |
| 15:17.25 | pastamancer | Wizardling: /run GridLayout:FakeSize(width, height) |
| 15:17.28 | Gnarfoz | Wizardling: you can set Grid to show "always", and set the layout to 5/10/25/40 whatever. |
| 15:17.30 | Wizardling | you're partly right |
| 15:17.41 | Gnarfoz | Wizardling: what's so hard about that? |
| 15:17.48 | Wizardling | but I want my UI basically done now |
| 15:17.51 | Gnarfoz | it will be exactly the size it would be if 40 people were there. |
| 15:17.51 | pastamancer | where width and height are numbers of squares |
| 15:18.04 | Wizardling | I don't want to eff about later |
| 15:18.06 | sylvanaar | before you pick your class even |
| 15:18.18 | Wizardling | I'm already tired of addons |
| 15:18.25 | Wizardling | four days now I've been back |
| 15:18.32 | Wizardling | and all I've done is try addons |
| 15:18.36 | Zenom | To play devils advocate though, if it doesn't have a sort of config option like maybe a pitbull does. |
| 15:18.37 | Xinhuan | cos as far as i can see, you're just having a whine for no real good reason |
| 15:18.41 | Codayus | Picking raid frames before you know your class seems...eccentric. OTOH, you can't go wrong with grid for any class, so... :-) |
| 15:18.43 | Gnarfoz | protip: you're making it utterly, idiotically HARD ON YOURSELF |
| 15:18.46 | Zenom | That would be a nice feature, just to see the space layout for 10,25,40 etc |
| 15:18.50 | Wizardling | it's not just frames |
| 15:18.56 | Gnarfoz | Zenom: uh... read. |
| 15:18.58 | pastamancer | Wizardling: /run GridLayout:FakeSize(width, height) <---- |
| 15:19.05 | Wizardling | it's chat, bars, everything |
| 15:19.11 | Zenom | Going into Av is kind of a silly way |
| 15:19.18 | Wizardling | TY Pastamancer |
| 15:19.19 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: that's good but not even necessary, right? just setting the layout to 40 will show exactly how big Grid is |
| 15:19.28 | pastamancer | it'll show you how wide |
| 15:19.28 | Gnarfoz | Zenom: no... you haven't been reading, just as Wizardling hasn't been |
| 15:19.35 | pastamancer | but not how tall |
| 15:19.41 | Wizardling | I'll give grid a go later on in my Shaman's life (just created one) |
| 15:19.46 | Gnarfoz | hm, put it where you want it and then turn on horizontal groups :p |
| 15:19.55 | Zenom | No need to get sarcastic, I was offering my thoughts to pasta as he said he would like to know what makes it better. |
| 15:19.58 | Zenom | And I do use grid. |
| 15:20.14 | Zhinjio | G'morning. |
| 15:20.16 | quiescens | that wouldn't be all that good gnarfoz |
| 15:20.17 | quiescens | lol |
| 15:20.19 | Bruners | how can i do 50% of a variable? like SetHeigth(50% of value) |
| 15:20.28 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: var*0.5? |
| 15:20.30 | quiescens | my grid frames are rectangularish |
| 15:20.41 | sylvanaar | i could never adjust to grid, i think because i couldnt read peoples names |
| 15:20.53 | quiescens | I changed it to 5 letters |
| 15:20.57 | Wizardling | no offence but I pity anyone who's 100% new to the game and tries to get into addons |
| 15:20.59 | quiescens | that's why my ones are slightly rectangular |
| 15:21.00 | quiescens | lol |
| 15:21.21 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: spanks |
| 15:21.27 | quiescens | I found 5 letters was a lot easier to differentiate names than 4 letters |
| 15:21.30 | Wizardling | I'm a geek and I've played before and it's hellish |
| 15:21.38 | Gnarfoz | you're not much of a geek then :P |
| 15:21.44 | Wizardling | I guess not |
| 15:21.56 | pastamancer | Zenom: try out GridLayout:FakeSize and let me know if that's useful |
| 15:21.58 | Lukian | <Wizardling> I don't want to eff about later |
| 15:22.03 | sylvanaar | you would have been level 40 by now |
| 15:22.08 | Lukian | by the time you actually need to use your addons, they'll be upgraded. |
| 15:22.18 | Wizardling | true I suppose |
| 15:22.20 | Codayus | Wizardling: Well, normal people play the game...and if they run into an issue they find an addon to solve it. SOmeday they hit 80, feel bored, and either grab an addon compilation pack, or if they're geekish, go through and layout their UI using existing addons. |
| 15:22.26 | Zenom | pastamancer: when I login I will definitely try that. |
| 15:23.02 | Codayus | Trying to figure out what addons you WILL want at some point in the (potentially far) future... Yeah, of course it's hard. :-) |
| 15:23.15 | Gnarfoz | wtf, someone broke Babble |
| 15:23.23 | Wizardling | I'm sorry. I guess I wanted to start off from where i was at six months ago before I left |
| 15:23.23 | sylvanaar | thats how you end up with 100+ addons |
| 15:23.38 | Codayus | (Oh, or if they're lazy, they don't do anything, and just use whatever UI they've evolved over 80 levels...) |
| 15:23.39 | Zenom | The game and API I htink has changed alot in 6 mos |
| 15:23.50 | Zenom | So i don't think that will be entirely possible. |
| 15:23.50 | Xinhuan | you're going by the wrong approach |
| 15:24.07 | Xinhuan | configuring an addon meant for lvl 60+s to use on a lvl 1 isn't what authors have in mind |
| 15:24.33 | quiescens | you're underestimating the level 1 population |
| 15:24.37 | Wizardling | Okay - forget my obviously foolish wanting to set everything up from day one |
| 15:25.04 | quiescens | what if they accidentally pull aggro because their threat meter doesn't work! |
| 15:25.15 | quiescens | 47hp isn't a big buffer |
| 15:25.18 | pastamancer | keep grid installed though :) |
| 15:25.28 | Wizardling | Totally new question: 10 most helpful addons for someone through levels 1 - 60 given they like doing instances? |
| 15:25.39 | sylvanaar | i havent used a threat meter since beta |
| 15:25.42 | pastamancer | I use it from level 1 on all my characters and have it showing all the time |
| 15:25.48 | Wizardling | you guys are addon ninjas ;-) |
| 15:25.56 | Codayus | Wizardling: It's not obviously foolish. Just rare, and intrinsically much more difficult than the "normal" approach. (If nothing else, there's plenty of addons that only one spec or class will want. DoT timers aren't optional for a dot class...useless for everyone else...) |
| 15:25.57 | Xinhuan | that's a hard question |
| 15:25.58 | Wizardling | knock me out with 10 good suggestions |
| 15:25.58 | Zenom | TourGuide, Bartender4, AutoBar |
| 15:26.08 | Wizardling | and I promise I won't come back till I'm 60 |
| 15:26.26 | sylvanaar | we'll each give you 10 different ones |
| 15:26.26 | Xinhuan | but i'll go with leveling related addons, such as quest guides, or DoubleWide to increase size of your quest log (viewing size) |
| 15:26.32 | Lukian | mapster or cartographer |
| 15:26.39 | pastamancer | mapster |
| 15:26.42 | Xinhuan | and a map addon of some sort that reveals the map |
| 15:26.44 | Lukian | Elkano's FramesResized |
| 15:26.46 | Wizardling | TY Codayus - it's kind of you to say. But I'm coming around to the notion it is a bit daft of me. |
| 15:26.46 | sylvanaar | questhelper |
| 15:26.51 | Lukian | is better than doublewide imho |
| 15:27.11 | pastamancer | I like tomtom too for when wowhead (or lightheaded) directs you to coordinates |
| 15:27.26 | Xinhuan | if you dont' care about the lore |
| 15:27.27 | Codayus | TourGuide, Mapster, a bar addon (Dominos, perhaps), decent unit frames (ag_UF), um...TomTom! |
| 15:27.27 | Wizardling | I used Tomtom |
| 15:27.30 | Wizardling | it was great |
| 15:27.34 | Xinhuan | you can always torrent Zygor's guides |
| 15:27.40 | Xinhuan | which is a ingame lvling guide |
| 15:27.52 | Xinhuan | the latest version uses tomtom |
| 15:27.59 | Wizardling | I like to try and find my own way at first |
| 15:28.02 | Zenom | Or use TourGuide which is really good and free. |
| 15:28.10 | quiescens | take a left at albuquerque |
| 15:28.12 | Wizardling | but I resort to help if I get at all frustrated |
| 15:29.28 | Wizardling | OmniCC looks handy as ever |
| 15:30.10 | Pneumatus | they really need to sort out tracking being switched off on undead DKs when they get ghouled |
| 15:30.48 | Codayus | That is the buggiest damn skill. :-/ |
| 15:31.49 | Pneumatus | the fact it taunts sartharion and malygos when the DK dies is also a bit annoying |
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| 15:31.57 | Pneumatus | due to going immune |
| 15:32.44 | sylvanaar | on beta one rank of one of their spells would crash the server whenever it was cast |
| 15:32.54 | robotusch | yeah' |
| 15:33.01 | quiescens | taunts? |
| 15:33.07 | robotusch | great fun trying to stop people from griefing it |
| 15:33.13 | sylvanaar | so every single DK had to try crashing the server |
| 15:33.32 | Fisker- | reminds me of mass ghoulage |
| 15:33.37 | Fisker- | that was nice |
| 15:33.38 | Pneumatus | well, it doesnt taunt per-se, but because the DK goes immune, sarth/maly both turn to face the dead DK and result in breathing all over the raid |
| 15:34.16 | sylvanaar | i think dnd breaks mc or something that reminds me |
| 15:34.18 | Zenom | BTW is there an addon that will just want on certain buffs/debuffs? Instead of installing something like parrot? Like I want to know when Brain Freeze procs etc. |
| 15:34.35 | Wizardling | I think i'm going to forget button bar mods for now |
| 15:34.39 | Xinhuan | "NeedToKnow" |
| 15:34.47 | Zenom | thanks |
| 15:34.48 | Pneumatus | tellmewhen/needtoknow/power auras |
| 15:35.01 | Pneumatus | TMW is an icon version of NTK |
| 15:35.03 | Wizardling | after all - I'll only have the same issue of not knowing how many buttons I need at lvl 1 |
| 15:35.09 | Pneumatus | NTK is candybars iirc |
| 15:35.23 | sylvanaar | 1 or 2 just like everyone else |
| 15:36.15 | quiescens | I think they mean, not knowing at level 1, how many buttons you'll end up needing |
| 15:36.39 | sylvanaar | i think you missed the sarcasm |
| 15:36.53 | quiescens | ): |
| 15:36.55 | Wizardling | It's going to come down to map, chat, unitframes, questlog, auction house, a gathering addon... |
| 15:37.03 | Wizardling | what's a good bag addon? |
| 15:37.10 | Wizardling | that will be useful from day one |
| 15:37.16 | quiescens | technically blizzard starts you off with 4 buttons for the most part~! |
| 15:37.36 | Zenom | Wizardling: I like TBag |
| 15:37.37 | Pneumatus | auto-attack, 2 spells and a racial |
| 15:37.38 | quiescens | food and water |
| 15:37.41 | quiescens | lols |
| 15:37.44 | Pneumatus | and food and water |
| 15:37.56 | sylvanaar | i cant press 4 |
| 15:38.02 | quiescens | you pretty much regen faster than you can lose either at that level |
| 15:38.08 | Codayus | ArkInventory is nice. So is Baggins, and TBag which was already mentioned... |
| 15:38.20 | Wizardling | Ohhhh! I need sexymap |
| 15:38.31 | Wizardling | that's obviously a necessity from day one |
| 15:38.40 | sylvanaar | clearly |
| 15:38.41 | Wizardling | pretty lights! |
| 15:38.51 | Wizardling | hey this is cool |
| 15:38.58 | Wizardling | might get distracting though |
| 15:40.10 | Wizardling | Is Combuctor any good? |
| 15:40.41 | Wizardling | seems simple enough from the descrption |
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| 15:41.12 | Codayus | Mmm, yeah, it's good. I dislike the style, but that's very much a matter of taste. |
| 15:41.25 | Wizardling | looks like OneBag, I think it was |
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| 15:41.42 | Wizardling | everythingthing in one hug bag is my style |
| 15:41.53 | Zenom | Then use OneBag3 |
| 15:42.00 | Zenom | Kaelten is updating it I believe. |
| 15:42.21 | Toadkiller | You can turn off the animation part of sexymap so its not sitting there screwing up your brains motin detection circuitry |
| 15:42.32 | Toadkiller | *motion |
| 15:43.15 | Toadkiller | I like Bagnon, but then I just want a giant bag, i cant stand multiple bag interfaces |
| 15:43.19 | Wizardling | Combuctor will show me other toon's stuff |
| 15:43.28 | Wizardling | so that's nicer than OneBag methinks |
| 15:43.44 | Toadkiller | Bagnon shows other toons. Its jsut missing the guild bank atm |
| 15:43.58 | Wizardling | Combuctor is Bagnon |
| 15:44.05 | Wizardling | basically |
| 15:44.06 | Toadkiller | Huh what? |
| 15:44.09 | Toadkiller | oh |
| 15:44.16 | Wizardling | same author |
| 15:44.22 | Wizardling | looks like a new version |
| 15:44.42 | Toadkiller | I have not looked at combuctor lately, it was still prety raw last time i did |
| 15:44.57 | Wizardling | "While the author didn't explicitly say so, I feel he's building Combuctor to be Bagnon's successor." |
| 15:45.07 | Wizardling | from http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/07/05/the-creamy-gui-center-big-bag-blowout/ |
| 15:45.33 | Wizardling | old, but I see it's updated on wowinterface.com |
| 15:46.48 | Wizardling | hmmm... looks like Tuller is updating both Bagnon and Combuctor |
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| 15:49.28 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: any plans to let you select the vertical/horizontal alignment of grid depending on the layout you have selected? |
| 15:50.23 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03StingerSoft * r640 Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 15:50.25 | Repo | (update fish nodes, work not finished, need check) |
| 15:54.06 | Toadkiller | Wizardling: Gathermate is the latest in gathering addons. You can import from wowhead's database with it. Also, it has support for son's of ho frost chip locations. |
| 15:55.18 | SunTsu | Hm, isn't that "Festivus" thing over, topic-wise? |
| 15:56.49 | Wizardling | Toadkiller - cheers, I'll go with that. I used to use Gatherer, but it was quite buggy and reading comments I see it still is |
| 16:01.04 | quiescens | change it to "Happy Everything!" |
| 16:01.15 | Toadkiller | As for questlog I am still looking for a good solution. I started using QuestHelper, and Broker_QH. The Broker kinda sucks though, it has some real noob interface elements. It makes me want to write a replacement. I used to use QuestFu but finally got tired of its display issues that were getting worse over time. |
| 16:01.16 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 16:01.31 | quiescens | I'm using.. beql |
| 16:01.42 | Toadkiller | Yeah but its "Lucky Kwanza", not Happy Kwanza |
| 16:01.51 | quiescens | ): |
| 16:02.12 | quiescens | Technically its probably merry christmas etc, its figurative! |
| 16:03.46 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: I think you broke babble |
| 16:04.07 | Toadkiller | Lemme guess: "dry coding" |
| 16:06.50 | quiescens | hearsay, did he or did he not break babble! |
| 16:07.45 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03StingerSoft * r641 Locales/GatherMate-ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 16:07.48 | Repo | - update gas clouds |
| 16:07.51 | Repo | - finished fish nodes (need check all Wreckage and pools) |
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| 16:17.06 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 16:17.38 | Repo | 10buttonfacade: 03StormFX 043.0.205 * r206 : Tagging as 3.0.205 |
| 16:17.51 | Wizardling | Is Atlas still a good choice? |
| 16:18.09 | Wizardling | (instance map addon) |
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| 16:25.44 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: how could I break babble? |
| 16:26.41 | Zhinjio | mornin' Ackis |
| 16:26.59 | Ackis | morning Zhinjio |
| 16:27.03 | Repo | 10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r207 tags/ (5 files in 5 directories): - Tag clean up. |
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| 16:42.36 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: dunno, just get the latest alpha bigwigs and see it break |
| 16:42.44 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: probably localization fuckups :p |
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| 16:49.41 | Fisker- | How do i print guid? |
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| 16:50.16 | Fisker- | halp vhaarr |
| 16:50.22 | vhaarr | wut |
| 16:50.40 | vhaarr | someone stabbing you with a pillow again? |
| 16:50.46 | Fisker- | nope :o |
| 16:50.52 | Fisker- | do you know how to print your targets guid? |
| 16:51.04 | vhaarr | print(UnitGUID("target")) |
| 16:51.29 | Fisker- | thanks |
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| 16:57.08 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): * Fixed PvP/Arena Bug |
| 16:57.33 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 041.4 * r11 : * Fixed PvP/Arena Bug |
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| 17:26.09 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r124 / (3 files in 1 directory): - span lengthy comms over multiple messages if necessary |
| 17:26.12 | Repo | - ignore comms messages that are too long |
| 17:26.14 | Repo | - add version string to version comms command |
| 17:26.17 | Repo | - put gap twixt X-* and @no-lib-strip@ to avoid bad X-Curse* inserts? |
| 17:32.00 | RaydenU | so |
| 17:32.02 | RaydenU | Amanitar |
| 17:32.08 | RaydenU | i was killing good mushrooms, but it wasn't going away |
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| 17:41.57 | RaydenU | i can't get it off |
| 17:42.01 | RaydenU | i eat 10 in a row and nothing |
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| 17:46.13 | sztanpet | can you roll for an item with a script after a disconnect, |
| 17:46.23 | sztanpet | because the windows doesnt show up anymore? |
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| 17:54.53 | SunTsu | sztanpet: If somebody disconnects while looting, not having looted yet, it can even bug that far that nobody gets the item and GMs are not able to retrieve the lost item |
| 17:55.17 | SunTsu | s/looted/rolled/ |
| 17:57.27 | sztanpet | yes but can i roll with a little script or not |
| 18:00.22 | SunTsu | sztanpet: I don't know, but I don't think so, because all addons are executed client-wise, and your client is disconnected |
| 18:00.54 | sztanpet | i want to roll when i log back in dude |
| 18:01.02 | sztanpet | but i have no roll window up anymore |
| 18:01.11 | sztanpet | so i cant press need or greed |
| 18:01.20 | sztanpet | so i need a script, is there one? |
| 18:07.48 | Grum | you've closed the window and therefor pressed passed afaik |
| 18:08.12 | nevcairiel | It still doesnt count your pass |
| 18:08.27 | nevcairiel | Blizz should just fix it to make it "pass" when someone disconnects |
| 18:08.35 | Grum | or just give the window again |
| 18:08.39 | Shot | there is a function, RollOnLoot |
| 18:08.44 | Shot | but you need the roll id |
| 18:08.54 | Grum | which is prolly the item-slot-id in the corpse |
| 18:08.57 | nevcairiel | sometimes people are offline for longer, a automagic pass would be better |
| 18:09.04 | Shot | Rollid |
| 18:09.05 | Shot | Number - The number increases with every roll you have in a party. Till how high it counts is currently unknown. |
| 18:09.07 | Grum | 'longer' means that the timer runs out |
| 18:09.20 | nevcairiel | 3 minutes is too long for me to wait |
| 18:09.21 | nevcairiel | =P |
| 18:09.34 | Grum | its not 3 minutes right? |
| 18:09.46 | Grum | never seems that long hehe |
| 18:09.49 | nevcairiel | for BoPs in instances, its 3 minutes |
| 18:09.56 | nevcairiel | its shorter outside, iirc |
| 18:10.31 | sylvanaar | there are 4 defined group loot frames |
| 18:10.41 | sylvanaar | so it goes 1-4 |
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| 18:11.56 | Shot | I'm not entirely sure how to invoke onclick - but would GroupLootFrame1RollButton:OnClick() sound about right? |
| 18:12.16 | sylvanaar | RollOnLoot(1, 1) |
| 18:12.22 | Aiiane | that would assume that the roll frame was populated with the proper roll data, Shot |
| 18:12.28 | sylvanaar | need roll |
| 18:12.32 | Aiiane | and if it's not displaying, chances are that's because it was never populated |
| 18:12.52 | Shot | yeah, makes sense |
| 18:13.18 | sylvanaar | i guess greed is RollOnLoot(1,2) |
| 18:13.25 | Shot | The rollid can't just be 1-4 though |
| 18:13.31 | sylvanaar | yes it can |
| 18:13.45 | sylvanaar | its only valid while that frame is up |
| 18:14.28 | sylvanaar | and you wont see any more things to roll on until you close one of the 4 windows that show |
| 18:15.02 | Bruners | tl;dr means? |
| 18:15.21 | sylvanaar | too long did not read |
| 18:16.13 | Shot | but assuming the rolls are stored somewhere temporarily (server side) until all rolls for that item are done, it would make more sense to have a unique roll id for each item |
| 18:16.15 | sylvanaar | no, the roll id is local |
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| 18:17.04 | sylvanaar | at least 1-4 |
| 18:17.13 | sylvanaar | they are just pointers |
| 18:22.23 | sztanpet | aw, so no way huh |
| 18:22.45 | sylvanaar | i think im wrong actually |
| 18:24.22 | sylvanaar | the roll id is in the START_LOOT_ROLL event |
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| 18:27.55 | sylvanaar | i guess you can use the id to get the item name with GetLootRollItemInfo like bliz does |
| 18:28.14 | Aiiane | hmm |
| 18:28.36 | Aiiane | sylvanaar: do savedvars save on normal disconnects (not exit/logout, but disconnect that isn't a crash)? |
| 18:29.08 | sylvanaar | i think so |
| 18:30.02 | sylvanaar | but, you arent guaranteed that those ids will be valid still, they are still pointers to some data table |
| 18:30.44 | Aiiane | true. otoh it couldn't hurt to try |
| 18:30.51 | sylvanaar | right |
| 18:31.17 | sylvanaar | who knows you might find a new way to ninja loot epix |
| 18:32.23 | sylvanaar | dc roll hax |
| 18:32.24 | fewyn | Does anyone know where the alpha for the CC is being held now? It seems it's no longer downloadable :( And I just reformated |
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| 18:41.44 | fewyn | Bueller? |
| 18:43.41 | Zyndrome | hmmm not bad, oneshotted Sarth + 3 drakes on 25-man this reset |
| 18:43.51 | pompy1 | wth.. "Failed to read file World\Maps\Northrend\Northrend_32_21.adt." it keeps failing to read files on login |
| 18:45.55 | Fisker- | harrrrrr Arrowmaster |
| 18:46.02 | Fisker- | he says boom headshot is on curse |
| 18:46.04 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 18:47.30 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r21 LibFail-1.0.lua: change to try to get thaddius jump fails to work |
| 18:48.16 | Repo | 10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r29 FailBoat.lua: counts persist until cleared |
| 18:48.17 | Fisker- | sounds like a neat addon sylvanaar :D |
| 18:48.32 | sylvanaar | its just a copy of another addon really |
| 18:49.11 | sylvanaar | just coded differently |
| 18:49.55 | sylvanaar | there are actually 2 other addons + dbm that do fail tracking |
| 18:50.24 | sylvanaar | FailBot, FailBotEnhanced are the other 2 |
| 18:50.42 | Fisker- | You need to integrate libfail into flippy |
| 18:50.57 | Fisker- | or whatever it was called |
| 18:51.36 | Hirsute | Can anyone recommend a good map replacement other than MetaMap and Cart3 that will: resize the wordlmap, change the blank unexplored areas to shaded, but visible areas, and handles notes/waypoints? (preferrably also with instance maps, but can live without those) |
| 18:51.46 | sylvanaar | whats flippy\ |
| 18:51.46 | Fisker- | http://wow.tachyonsix.com/WoWScrnShot_082508_210848.jpg |
| 18:52.10 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 18:52.23 | Pneumatus | Mapster |
| 18:52.25 | sylvanaar | well, they are usually dead |
| 18:52.30 | Pneumatus | along with HandyNotes |
| 18:52.42 | sylvanaar | well, about 1/2 of the fails are deaths |
| 18:53.00 | Fisker- | he only made api support for it :( |
| 18:53.04 | Fisker- | he never did anything real with it |
| 18:53.07 | Fisker- | other than the example above |
| 18:53.10 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 18:53.13 | Fisker- | that lazy Antiarc |
| 18:53.31 | the-golem | Fisker-: that's your layout? |
| 18:53.46 | Fisker- | Antiarc's layout |
| 18:54.04 | sylvanaar | i made a libbed version of failbot, and am using it in a small addon - im sure thats as far as it will go |
| 18:54.42 | Fisker- | ~fail Kaelten |
| 18:54.43 | purl | Kaelten, you Fail! |
| 18:59.15 | Stew_a | I'm looking for an addon that puts cooldown counters on actionbars like in this screenshot (http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9130/wowscrnshot012808195931vv0.jpg , please forgive the awful ui) that works with bartenders, and ideally bag items too, does anyone have any suggestsions please? |
| 18:59.30 | [Ammo] | omniCC |
| 18:59.34 | [Ammo] | find it on wowinterface.com |
| 18:59.56 | thul | is the eu-wowarmory down? |
| 19:00.07 | Fisker- | when is it not, amirite? |
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| 19:01.44 | Stew_a | thanks [Ammo] |
| 19:02.58 | Nizomi | uh |
| 19:03.00 | Nizomi | stupid question |
| 19:03.15 | Nizomi | is there any way to get guild ranks up? so when i create a new one, to get it over the others |
| 19:04.52 | Pneumatus | nop |
| 19:05.58 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 042.5.5 * r103 : Tagging as 2.5.5 |
| 19:06.30 | Repo | 10elephant: 03pb_ee1 042.5.5-beta * r104 : Tagging as 2.5.5-beta |
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| 19:16.23 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r321 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 19:16.25 | Repo | - Fixed interface lag in eventmap when cartographer3 is running. |
| 19:16.28 | Repo | - Updated changelog |
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| 19:20.44 | thul | 504 defence rating :-P |
| 19:20.59 | Bruners | is the BM hunter buff raid wide now? |
| 19:24.35 | p3lim | botmail read |
| 19:24.39 | p3lim | how does it work? |
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| 19:27.04 | Bruners | p3lim: botmail ? |
| 19:27.51 | p3lim | yap |
| 19:28.37 | Stew_a | ~botmail |
| 19:29.13 | Zyndrome | Arrowmaster , I got a PM by the BoomHeadshot guy |
| 19:29.15 | Zyndrome | "Look WOW plays the wma file and the addon works. And i only said that the file was password protected since people like to edit other people's addons and I dont want my addon edited by other people. And the addon works becuase the moderator who approved it tested the addon first." |
| 19:29.28 | Zyndrome | yeah ... you go ahead and pw-protect a .lua file |
| 19:31.55 | EthanCentaurai | password protecting addons isn't very open sauce compatible :| |
| 19:32.46 | EthanCentaurai | you might as well just encrypt the damn thing and put a time trial limitation on it :P |
| 19:32.59 | EthanCentaurai | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.02 | ckknight | EthanCentaurai: don't confuse open source and view source |
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| 19:33.14 | ckknight | I like having the latter regardless |
| 19:33.37 | EthanCentaurai | decides to stay quiet |
| 19:50.36 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 2ee3efb / (3 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] Various fixes |
| 19:56.19 | Bruners | anyone know if they are changing the spiked titansteel helm next patch ? |
| 19:56.49 | nevcairiel | didnt they add meta sockets to all of them? |
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| 19:57.13 | Bruners | at the moment only the dps helmet got a meta |
| 19:57.21 | Bruners | and is a bit OP :P |
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| 19:59.54 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: so, did you fix Babble yet? :p |
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| 20:02.25 | nevcairiel | whats broken with babble? |
| 20:07.04 | nevcairiel | Ackis: that reminds me, DO NOT use the keyword substituion for Babble Libs. It'll screw everyone over that uses SVN Checkouts of Babble or uses externals on the Babble Libs from non-wowace. |
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| 20:18.37 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis * r137 locale-enUS.lua: Update L[m_drakehunt] |
| 20:21.20 | ckknight | what's a good autobuffing (out of combat, of course) addon nowadays? |
| 20:27.25 | Hjalte | ckknight: Cork or SimpleSelfRebuff |
| 20:27.39 | Hjalte | That's for yourself only though. |
| 20:27.52 | Hjalte | Cork has some group buffs as well |
| 20:33.13 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar * r10 Core.lua: |
| 20:33.16 | Repo | - Corrected a bug where raid upgrades were not taken into account |
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| 20:39.44 | ckknight | Tekkub: you should document your APIs for Cork. I had to actually read code to add a thorns buff for my druid :P |
| 20:40.15 | ckknight | it was easy enough, though |
| 20:41.44 | Pneumatus | surely you know by now if tekk doesnt need it, it doesnt get added |
| 20:42.44 | Tekkub | I'm still up in the air about the thorns module |
| 20:43.08 | Tekkub | probably gonna make it like fear ward/earth shield and just track the last person cast on |
| 20:44.00 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r125 NautCore.lua: |
| 20:44.03 | Repo | - fix possible error if player coords are invalid immediately after login |
| 20:44.05 | Repo | - fix possible bug if global var 'version' exists |
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| 20:50.29 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1120 / (12 files in 1 directory): Reworked status enabling/disabling. |
| 20:50.31 | Repo | Enabled statuses should register events and update all units. |
| 20:50.34 | Repo | Disabled statuses should unregister their events and send status lost for all units. |
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| 20:52.47 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar 04v1.0.1 * r11 : Tagging as v1.0.1 |
| 20:55.48 | Pneumatus | has the guid branch been merged to trunk yet pastamancer? |
| 20:56.09 | pastamancer | yes |
| 20:56.15 | pastamancer | but not tagged |
| 20:56.30 | Pneumatus | will switch over to using trunk then :) |
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| 21:01.06 | amoeba | ckknight: Have you thought about adding the ability in PB4 for adding another bar, or any number of custom bars, so users can place whatever text they'd like on them? Example would be adding a new bar that contained Just Name/Class/Race/Level |
| 21:01.22 | ckknight | welcome to 12 hours ago, amoeba |
| 21:01.23 | ckknight | psh |
| 21:01.33 | amoeba | Ah, nice :) |
| 21:01.45 | ckknight | but it's not in yet |
| 21:01.47 | ckknight | just thoughts |
| 21:02.12 | amoeba | I need to scan my addons folder every night and email myself the git log diff. |
| 21:02.56 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: btw, you suggestion of "sanity check all statuses" helped... curses had alpha set at 0%. which is weird because they still showed borders for the corner indicator and the cooldown wheel for center icons... |
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| 21:06.59 | pastamancer | aha |
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| 21:10.18 | pastamancer | that's odd though, the corners and border use the alpha too |
| 21:13.22 | Hjalte | sylvanaar: Hi. Is this your error or is it a problem with my LDB display addon Caroussel? http://www.wowace.com/paste/120/ |
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| 21:17.09 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9183.23-1-g37d38ed / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Skinner: Updated Examiner & LightHeaded skins |
| 21:17.14 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03cremor * r4899 README.txt: |
| 21:17.17 | Repo | No changes, just to force a new package with updated libs because of errors in LibBabble-Boss-3.0. |
| 21:17.49 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9183.24 * 7a22463 /: [new tag] Tagging as b1.9183.24 |
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| 21:23.43 | Repo | 10head-count: 03seppyk * r69 / (14 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
| 21:23.45 | Repo | HeadCount: |
| 21:23.48 | Repo | - Added loot listing to member information section. |
| 21:23.51 | Repo | - Added plain text export format string. |
| 21:23.54 | Repo | - Converted all locale strings to have literal values. |
| 21:29.05 | Bruners | anyone on PTR that can check the stats on Spiked Titansteel Helm ? |
| 21:34.34 | Gnarfoz | just check mmo-champion? :p |
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| 21:42.21 | Bruners | Gnarfoz: cant see anything on it there, but still people say it has been nerfed |
| 21:43.22 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron 04v3.45 * r172 : RaidBuffStatus: |
| 21:43.25 | Repo | - Tagged for release. |
| 21:43.42 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: huh? it's one of the early changes, so it's gonna be some pages back |
| 21:45.07 | Gnarfoz | Bruners: anyway... scroll down: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41386#comments |
| 21:46.25 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r173 Core.lua: RaidBuffStatus: |
| 21:46.28 | Repo | - Added battle shout as possible buff for BoM. |
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| 21:48.01 | hanzzon | hi, this targets the mob even if it's dead, so what did I do wrong? /tar [nodead] Vyragosa |
| 21:48.29 | Arrowmaster | nothing, you cant do that |
| 21:48.51 | hanzzon | bummer :( |
| 21:48.56 | Gnarfoz | uh |
| 21:49.21 | Arrowmaster | '/tar [nodead] Vyragosa' will target anything named 'Vyragosa' as long as you do not have a current target that is dead |
| 21:49.22 | Gnarfoz | but you can stop the macro afterwards if you don't have a target |
| 21:50.17 | hanzzon | yea I know, I just don't want my macro to go off if my targeted mob is dead... |
| 21:52.01 | Repo | 10easydkp: 03Pericles * r64 / (2 files in 1 directory): EasyDKP: - |
| 21:52.04 | Repo | fixed drycoded updates |
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| 21:53.05 | Gnarfoz | hanzzon: but... that is sooo unlikely |
| 21:53.27 | hanzzon | hehe, well, I had a dead drake right there now ;-) |
| 21:53.39 | hanzzon | http://www.wowace.com/paste/123/ |
| 21:54.10 | Repo | 10ihml: 03StingerSoft * r138 locales/locale-ruRU.lua: IHML: |
| 21:54.13 | Repo | - ruRU update |
| 21:54.28 | hanzzon | that pastey is how I do it now... |
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| 21:58.47 | amoeba | ckknight: I got this error a few times while issuing a reloadUI but I can't replicate it any longer thus I haven't filed a ticket. |
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| 22:01.12 | Shefki | amoeba: What error? |
| 22:01.28 | amoeba | Paste button broken, excuse me! |
| 22:01.32 | amoeba | http://www.wowace.com/paste/122/ |
| 22:01.41 | amoeba | (tekErr output) |
| 22:04.06 | Shefki | Hmm that's odd. |
| 22:04.26 | amoeba | off the latest git, and as I said, I can't replicate it |
| 22:04.50 | Shefki | :155 |
| 22:04.53 | Shefki | mt |
| 22:06.06 | Shefki | Yeah I can't fathom how that table would ever be nil. |
| 22:06.18 | Shefki | It's set when the Main.lua loads. |
| 22:06.30 | amoeba | Magic? |
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| 22:07.57 | chiper | does anyone know what happened to UberQuest Reborn? it's suddenly no longer on curse |
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| 22:11.21 | waallen | does anyone know of any other addon similar to Aloft but more lightweight and thus less configurable? |
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| 22:12.38 | trh | what the heck happened to www.curse.com? it tries to send out mime-type text/vnd.wap.wml |
| 22:13.50 | Aiiane | looks like something got messed up |
| 22:14.17 | Hjalte | waallen: There's a nameplate addon among evl's addons: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/evl.aspx |
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| 22:15.18 | waallen | Hjalte: thanks, I'll try that out |
| 22:17.06 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r513 / (5 files in 3 directories): ruRU update |
| 22:18.42 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r322 modules/DefaultLists.lua: VanasKoS: show only 10 entries for pvplog |
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| 22:19.17 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 16d01b7 Main.lua: [+1 commit] fix a bug in auto_table__mt. |
| 22:19.59 | waallen | Hjalte: it looks awesome, thanks |
| 22:20.43 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * c497585 Modules/HealthBar/HealthBar.lua: [+4 commits] |
| 22:20.45 | Repo | c497585: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.wowace.com/wow/pitbull4/mainline |
| 22:20.48 | Repo | 258ad43: Color by class is only done for player units not NPCs so adjust some |
| 22:20.51 | Repo | d090486: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.wowace.com/wow/pitbull4/mainline |
| 22:20.54 | Repo | 2f47975: Fix bug with Hostility Color NPCs option not working. |
| 22:22.05 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03StingerSoft * r1859 Locales/constants.ru.lua: ruRU update |
| 22:24.46 | Aiiane | trh: appears to be fixed |
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| 22:28.46 | trh | Aiiane: seems so ;) - guess someone screwed up the server configuration ;) |
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| 22:38.45 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03StingerSoft * r1860 Locales/constants.ru.lua: ruRU update |
| 22:39.27 | thul | hmm, how do i get the Savage Gladiator's Quickblade (blue) |
| 22:39.27 | thul | is it honor? |
| 22:41.42 | taleden | anyone know a way to figure out how many coordinate units in a frame's context equals one real screen pixel? |
| 22:42.07 | taleden | I figure it must be some combination of :GetEffectiveScale, 768, GetScreenHeight(), GetResolution(), etc but I can't quite make it work |
| 22:42.11 | Grum | you have screenwidth/uiscale and scale of the frame |
| 22:42.42 | thul | how do i get: http://thottbot.com/i42213 ? :-P |
| 22:43.03 | Arrowmaster | taleden: its almost impossible to figure that out due to rounding |
| 22:43.36 | taleden | boo :/ |
| 22:43.57 | taleden | I want the option to set one-pixel solid borders on stuff without the one pixel being swallowed half the time by ui scaling |
| 22:44.12 | Shefki | Don't scale then. :) |
| 22:44.30 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 91d5c92 Main.lua: [+1 commit] bugfix |
| 22:44.49 | ckknight | taleden: yea, tell blizz or don't scale |
| 22:45.27 | taleden | I'm not scaling, my frames are just inheriting it from the user's global setting |
| 22:45.48 | taleden | tho I guess I could put some hack in to set my frame's scale to 1/parent:GetEffectiveScale or something to try to cancel it out |
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| 22:47.53 | taleden | but then I'd have the opposite problem, wouldn't I.. if "coordinate space" is based on a 768-tall screen, canceling out ui scaling makes the coordinates-per-pixel ratio different, but still doesn't tell me what it is |
| 22:48.18 | ckknight | if you turn off UI scaling, then 1 in-game pixel = 1 real pixel |
| 22:48.36 | ckknight | it adjusts the scale so that your height is the real height |
| 22:48.42 | ckknight | not that ui scale = 1 |
| 22:48.50 | taleden | you mean if I turn it off globally? |
| 22:48.54 | Torhal_ | ckknight: Pitbull4 - 404 Not Found nginx/0.5.26 |
| 22:49.03 | ckknight | Torhal_: where? |
| 22:49.06 | ckknight | taleden: yes |
| 22:49.09 | Torhal_ | Tried to download latest package |
| 22:49.20 | ckknight | probably hasn't reached the static server yet, then |
| 22:49.39 | ckknight | nope |
| 22:49.42 | ckknight | internal server error |
| 22:50.05 | taleden | ckknight: unfortunately that isn't really what I want |
| 22:51.10 | Grum | just pixelnudge till you get it right :p |
| 22:52.30 | Shefki | Torhal: You're never going to get exactly what you want when UI scaling is in effect. My best suggestion is to simply ignore it. If users want their stuff to look like crap that's their problem. |
| 22:52.45 | Torhal | Shefki: Wrong guy, but I'm sure he understands. |
| 22:52.48 | Torhal | :D |
| 22:52.50 | taleden | :D |
| 22:53.52 | Aiiane | you people and your hard-to-differentiate namems |
| 22:53.55 | Aiiane | names* |
| 22:54.01 | Torhal | ... |
| 22:54.20 | taleden | oh come on Antairc, reading ain't that hard ;) |
| 22:54.25 | Torhal | ROFL |
| 22:54.28 | taleden | or were you Andiun? |
| 22:54.30 | taleden | I can't tell :X |
| 22:54.37 | Aiiane | no, I'm Arrowmaster |
| 22:54.41 | taleden | ohhh |
| 22:55.01 | taleden | my mistake :D |
| 22:55.25 | taleden | my old guild could never keep our bear tanks straight |
| 22:55.30 | Aiiane | heh |
| 22:55.36 | taleden | I could forgive them using the wrong name on vent since we all looked alike |
| 22:55.46 | taleden | but sometimes we'd type in raid and they'd still reply to the wrong name |
| 22:55.56 | taleden | just because it was the other feral druid |
| 22:57.03 | pastamancer | you've all got furry butts, what's the difference? :p |
| 22:57.51 | taleden | like I said, forgivable when people couldn't tell us apart by character model |
| 22:58.05 | taleden | but mixing up printed names that you just read off the screen, come on now |
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| 23:04.30 | WobWork | this is why druids need easy to differentiate names |
| 23:04.35 | WobWork | like Lazorchikin |
| 23:04.42 | WobWork | and Baretanq |
| 23:05.13 | WobWork | brb off to work =P |
| 23:05.20 | chiper | wtf, my hunter pet wont auto-cast his growl |
| 23:06.15 | Industrial | right click it on the petbar or in the et spellbook |
| 23:06.19 | Industrial | :p |
| 23:06.29 | chiper | it is set to autocast |
| 23:06.41 | Industrial | dismiss, call? |
| 23:06.41 | chiper | I'm not a total newb |
| 23:06.49 | Industrial | hey you never know |
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| 23:15.47 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 07master * b1.9183.24-1-gedcf2a6 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Skinner: Bugfix for LibTooltip/LibQTip skinning code |
| 23:16.15 | Repo | 10skinner: 03Jncl 04b1.9183.b25 * f8fd345 /: [new tag] Tagging as b1.9183.b25 |
| 23:21.45 | Hjalte | ckknight: I just saw that I was able to download alpha builds with CC - Has that been available for long? |
| 23:21.56 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 23:30.26 | Pneumatus | Hjalte: a couple of weeks at least |
| 23:31.09 | Hjalte | Damn, I haven't really been paying attention to my addons lately. It's a nice change though :) |
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| 23:53.15 | renchap | hi, i need some beta-testers for my new wow-related website : http://beta.wowgossips.com/ |
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| 23:53.25 | renchap | feel free to pm me if you find some bugs/want more infos |
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| 23:56.47 | NivFreak | gdi |
| 23:56.54 | NivFreak | barely lost STVFE again |
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