IRC log for #wowace on 20090114

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`00:05.58`	`Polleke`	`!seen Azethoth`
`00:05.58`	`lua_bot`	`Polleke: I have not seen Azethoth`
`00:06.14`	`Polleke`	`:(`
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`00:12.47`	`Kuja^`	`~seen Toadkiller`
`00:12.49`	`purl`	`toadkiller is currently on #wowace (11h 8m 54s) #curseforge (11h 8m 54s). Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 5h 41m 21s, last said: '10c in California = "This must be that winter thing, can't wait for next month to roll by"'.`
`00:12.55`	`Kuja^`	`Polleke: ^`
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`00:15.58`	`Polleke`	`Toadkiller, ping, thanks for your gridstatusres modifications. I'll test it quickly tomorrow, and then switch it to release`
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`01:00.08`	`CIA-34`	`panda: 03Tekkub 07master * rec627a8 10/ (6 files): deDE locale - http://tinyurl.com/ayj2lj`
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`01:33.44`	`Repo`	`10liblordfarlander-2-0: 03LordFarlander * r141 / (2 files in 2 directories): LibLordFarlander-2.0:`
`01:33.47`	`Repo`	`- LibLordFarlander-2.0: Can use TableRecycler-1.0 for CopyTable`
`01:33.49`	`Repo`	`- TableRecycler-1.0: Changes for ReturnTable`
`01:34.08`	`Repo`	`10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r138 / (2 files in 1 directory): Coconuts:`
`01:34.10`	`Repo`	`- Fix the embed order`
`01:36.05`	`Pneumatus`	`/facepalm`
`01:36.34`	`Bruners`	`stupid secure blablablala`
`01:36.49`	`Pneumatus`	`with the frequency of lib updates and the fact he has to change code after every update, you really really have to wonder if that lib even serves a purpose to HIM let alone others`
`01:36.52`	`Repo`	`10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r153 embeds.xml: MiniPet:`
`01:36.54`	`Repo`	`- Fix for embed order`
`01:38.32`	`Repo`	`10libbabble-boss-3-0: 037destiny * r160 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: koKR Update`
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`01:47.27`	`Repo`	`10little-wigs: 037destiny * r516 / (7 files in 4 directories): koKR Update`
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`01:50.05`	`Repo`	`10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4902 Northrend/Sartharion.lua: koKR Update`
`01:51.32`	linear`	`how do i set the svn:eol-style to native, i tried doing it in tortoisesvn but it says i can't on a non-local target on the wowace svn`
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`01:54.40`	`taleden`	`I had to do it on the command line`
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`01:54.47`	`taleden`	`but I'm on linux, dunno on windows`
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`02:03.48`	`amoeba`	linear`: On a Cygwin SVN install you can use `propset` or edit `~/.subversion/config`
`02:05.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`i dont use tsvn but it shoulds like you are trying to do it from the repo browser instead of doing it on the local working copy`
`02:06.53`	`pastamancer`	`eww, acemodulecore-2 is gross`
`02:07.06`	`Arrowmaster`	`a lot of ace2 is`
`02:07.13`	`pastamancer`	`very true`
`02:07.38`	`Arrowmaster`	`theres been talk of removing acetab from ace3 too just because its bad`
`02:08.12`	`pastamancer`	`I was under the impression that acetab has always been a horrible hack`
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`02:08.38`	`RaydenU`	`does the wintergrasp portal go away after a while?`
`02:08.43`	`RaydenU`	`we own it, and the dude says i can use the portal`
`02:08.46`	`RaydenU`	`but i do'nt see it`
`02:08.57`	`pastamancer`	`talk to him harder?`
`02:09.02`	`pastamancer`	`sometimes it's just bugged though`
`02:09.11`	`doom0r`	`yes`
`02:09.13`	`pastamancer`	`it should always be up while you control wintergrasp`
`02:09.14`	`doom0r`	`it goes away`
`02:09.42`	`doom0r`	`not sure that's intentional`
`02:09.43`	`doom0r`	`but it does`
`02:09.51`	`Arrowmaster`	`its not always up`
`02:10.06`	`Torhal`	linear`: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=261007&highlight=native#post261007
`02:10.16`	`RaydenU`	`and no stone?`
`02:10.29`	`Arrowmaster`	`hell when the timer is about up and you are going to be defending you have to wait for the damn portal to spawn`
`02:11.29`	`pastamancer`	`oh god... I forgot how horrible aceevent-2 is`
`02:11.48`	`pastamancer`	`well, to read at least`
`02:12.06`	linear`	`ah thanks torhal`
`02:12.11`	`Torhal`	`np`
`02:12.41`	`Arrowmaster`	`pastamancer: i found a bug in aceconsole-2.0 once that was clearly a bug but completely broke shit when fixed`
`02:12.52`	`pastamancer`	`Arrowmaster: awesome`
`02:13.30`	`pastamancer`	`I haven't had to worry about the ace2 libs in so long, I had forgotten... ace3's code is so much nicer`
`02:13.50`	`Arrowmaster`	`it was like a +1 or something in some select() stuff that deffently shouldnt have been +1 and it seemed like it should have been -1 to me but that broke everything`
`02:16.02`	`RaydenU`	`man`
`02:16.07`	`RaydenU`	`it's a pain to get to wintergrasp`
`02:16.58`	linear`	`torhal: i right click and goto tsvn and all i get is repo-browser, settings, help, and about on a file`
`02:17.24`	`doom0r`	`why does everyone make such a big deal about getting to wintergrasp?`
`02:17.31`	`doom0r`	`mount fly 10 seconds, done`
`02:17.31`	`pastamancer`	`damnit, unregistering an event that I'm not registered for shouldn't cause an error!`
`02:18.31`	`RaydenU`	`heh`
`02:18.39`	`RaydenU`	`9/10 of us are at wintergrasp and the 1 warlock isn't here`
`02:18.56`	`Torhal`	linear`: Oh, you can't do your initial commit yet because of the eol...and you can't set the eol because TSVN doesn't see a repo.
`02:19.00`	`Torhal`	`Shit, I forgot how I fixed that`
`02:20.12`	`Torhal`	`You may have to create a repository locally, then import it to the WoWAce SVN`
`02:20.12`	linear`	`o i figured it out i go to tsvn settings and add *.lua to automatic properties`
`02:20.16`	`Torhal`	`Ah`
`02:20.36`	linear`	`i tried that too and it said i can't do it on a non-local file which was ridiculous`
`02:20.46`	`Arrowmaster`	`you can checkout the empty repo`
`02:21.43`	`Arrowmaster`	`non-local means you arent doing it to a working copy`
`02:22.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`you need to checkout the empty repo, and then add your files to it, then change the properties before commiting`
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`02:24.11`	`fewyn`	`sigh`
`02:24.14`	`fewyn`	`my raid warnings`
`02:24.17`	`fewyn`	`aren't showing up in chat`
`02:24.19`	`fewyn`	`any ideas?`
`02:24.41`	`doom0r`	`you have assist?`
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`02:31.17`	`Bruners`	`is there an addon that can mark new items in default bags?`
`02:31.54`	`doom0r`	`there's itemage, don't know of that will do it or not`
`02:33.06`	`Repo`	`10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1127 / (4 files in 1 directory): Improved notification when Grid is put into standby.`
`02:33.08`	`Repo`	`Made GridRoster handle coming out of standby properly.`
`02:33.10`	`Repo`	`Status modules don't need to worry about whether they're currently registered for an event before unregistering it.`
`02:34.46`	`Bruners`	`doom0r: that one looks nice`
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`02:38.35`	`fewyn`	`yes doom0r`
`02:38.45`	`fewyn`	`i do have assist`
`02:38.56`	`fewyn`	`I'm confused as to why raid warnings do not show up in chat`
`02:38.56`	`doom0r`	`and these are manually typed?`
`02:39.00`	`doom0r`	`or seomthing like bigwigs`
`02:39.10`	`fewyn`	`We do /rw and they've always shown up in chat`
`02:39.13`	`Repo`	`10recount: 03Elsia * r970 Tracker.lua: Recount:`
`02:39.15`	`Repo`	`- Added debug message if a unit_died event is triggered for a party hunter who is feigning death. This is for alpha only. Please report if you observe a related debug message in chat.`
`02:39.40`	`doom0r`	`the raid warning option is on for that tab?`
`02:40.03`	`fewyn`	`yea`
`02:40.09`	`fewyn`	`which is why i'm confused`
`02:40.11`	`WobWork`	`are you getting the raidwarning midscreen as usual?`
`02:40.24`	`Arrowmaster`	`blame addons`
`02:40.27`	`Arrowmaster`	`something is doing it`
`02:40.41`	`fewyn`	`yea midscreen`
`02:40.44`	`fewyn`	`yea i know`
`02:40.49`	`fewyn`	`i just have no idea WHAT`
`02:40.56`	`WobWork`	`reloadui`
`02:40.59`	`fewyn`	`i have`
`02:41.02`	`fewyn`	`relogged too`
`02:41.22`	`doom0r`	`well, what would suppress it? chat addon, warnings addon, spam addon`
`02:41.59`	`fewyn`	`no spam addon... dbm has it set to show it in chat`
`02:42.04`	`fewyn`	`does prat suppress it?`
`02:42.05`	`Repo`	`10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1128 GridLayout.lua:`
`02:42.07`	`Repo`	`How can a frame exist and yet frame:GetLeft returns nil? It is a mystery.`
`02:42.18`	linear`	`how do i tag an addon, do i just copy it over from the trunk?`
`02:42.32`	`Hirsute`	`Anyone here a baggins user?`
`02:42.54`	`pastamancer`	`yeah`
`02:43.03`	`pastamancer`	`to the both of you :p`
`02:43.04`	`Arrowmaster`	linear`: you can just use website to create a tag too
`02:43.10`	`Hirsute`	`If I delete a bag, does it delete it only from my current profile?`
`02:43.49`	`doom0r`	`If the frame layout data have not been saved in the cache (the user has never moved the frame with the mouse), Frame:GetLeft(), Frame:GetBottom(), Frame:GetRight() and Frame:GetTop() return nil.`
`02:44.15`	`fewyn`	`http://fewyn.net/AddonList.txt Hmm... it's not turn on in prat and that's my addons list`
`02:44.38`	`doom0r`	`no mystery pastamancer`
`02:44.48`	`Arrowmaster`	`have you tried disabling DBM?`
`02:45.20`	`fewyn`	`no not yet`
`02:45.28`	`fewyn`	`in the middle of naxx and trying to do bids`
`02:45.32`	`fewyn`	`and not having rw show up`
`02:45.36`	`fewyn`	`is an annoying`
`02:45.43`	`RaydenU`	`wtf`
`02:45.50`	`RaydenU`	`we just do 10 man vault iwth no rogues`
`02:45.52`	`RaydenU`	`2 rogue pieces drop`
`02:45.55`	`fewyn`	`of course`
`02:45.58`	`fewyn`	`that's how it works`
`02:46.06`	`WobWork`	`pretty standard`
`02:46.15`	`fewyn`	`first week we did it`
`02:46.16`	`fewyn`	`double dk`
`02:46.26`	`fewyn`	`and there wasn't a single 80 dk on the server yeet`
`02:47.14`	`fewyn`	`maybe i should switch back to bigwigs`
`02:47.16`	`fewyn`	`after this boss`
`02:47.19`	linear`	`i dont understand why they didnt just make vault drop tokens`
`02:47.53`	`doom0r`	`i dont understand why they didnt just make non-class specific tokens drop everywhere*`
`02:47.55`	`doom0r`	`fixed`
`02:48.27`	`doom0r`	`i really do understand, but marketing can go shove one up themselves`
`02:48.33`	`fewyn`	`i don't quite understand why voa doesnt drop tokens`
`02:48.35`	`fewyn`	`but shrug`
`02:50.46`	`Zhinjio`	`once upon I got a font recommendation for coding, and it was a good one.`
`02:50.53`	`Zhinjio`	`now I reset my editor and can't find the font`
`02:50.59`	`Zhinjio`	`anyone have any recommendations (again)?`
`02:51.17`	`pastamancer`	`doom0r: tell me more`
`02:51.26`	`doom0r`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_Anchor_Initialization`
`02:51.27`	`doom0r`	`read`
`02:51.55`	`Arrowmaster`	`dejavu sans mono`
`02:52.38`	`pastamancer`	`doom0r: even if you've already called SetPoint on the frame?`
`02:54.07`	`pastamancer`	`first thing I do after creating the frame is frame:SetPoint("CENTER", UIParent, "CENTER") and then restore the positiong and then call frame:GetLeft`
`02:54.16`	`Zhinjio`	`I'll give that one a shot.`
`02:55.16`	`pastamancer`	`oh, and apparently only one person in the entire history of grid has had GetLeft return nil`
`02:56.15`	`doom0r`	`because they've never moved it?`
`02:56.25`	`fewyn`	`anyone have the current alpha for CC? The link I had no longer works`
`02:56.29`	`Zhinjio`	`omg sourceforge is slow as hell`
`02:56.29`	`pastamancer`	`except they have`
`02:56.39`	`pastamancer`	`http://www.wowace.com/projects/grid/tickets/48-error-after-login/#comments`
`02:56.48`	`pastamancer`	`per the screenshot, he's clearly moved grid`
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`03:04.31`	`pastamancer`	`dejavu sans mono reminds me of lucida sans`
`03:08.45`	`Zhinjio`	`that one's not bad, Arrowmaster.`
`03:08.59`	`Zhinjio`	`I think I'm going to keep looking though. The one I had before was better for my eyes`
`03:09.14`	`pastamancer`	`apparently I'm using Monaco`
`03:13.15`	`pastamancer`	`I found a ttf version of the 8x13 bitmap font to use in iTerm`
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`03:20.46`	`Xinhuan`	`Zeksie, i think the "buff until debuff" option is not working for raid frames ;p`
`03:21.24`	`Xinhuan`	`Arrowmaster, trainwhistle should include one for Direbrew remote too!`
`03:24.12`	`Arrowmaster`	`maybe`
`03:27.13`	`doom0r`	`pastamancer: did the sv's go through a change at all, perhaps a read only file on his end?`
`03:29.13`	linear`	`does my project stay awaiting approval until i put some release in tags?`
`03:31.18`	`RaydenU`	`wiping in VH is annoying`
`03:31.21`	`Xinhuan`	`depends on the quality of your description`
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`03:37.11`	`pastamancer`	`doom0r: no idea, I just told grid not to save the position if it can't GetLEft`
`03:43.37`	`Zhinjio`	`Monaco is decent as well`
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`03:45.43`	`Camci`	`[04:31] <RaydenU> wiping in VH is annoying`
`03:45.46`	`Camci`	`lulz`
`03:45.51`	`chiper`	`hey NivFreak, you around?`
`03:45.52`	`Camci`	`like when the tank DC...`
`03:45.55`	`Camci`	`on last boss..`
`03:45.55`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03Ackis * r1368 AckisRecipeList.lua: Add some more debugging for jimmy boy`
`03:45.59`	`Camci`	`:/`
`03:46.26`	`doom0r`	`void boss, random pug: what adds?`
`03:46.39`	`Camci`	`haha`
`03:47.27`	`RaydenU`	`Camci that sucks`
`03:49.44`	`Zhinjio`	`Vera Sans Mono`
`03:49.54`	`Zhinjio`	`so far, I think thats closest/best`
`03:54.04`	`doom0r`	`color bothers me way more than actual font`
`03:54.21`	`WobWork`	`hm, what does the void boss do? I can't remember`
`03:54.37`	`doom0r`	`it's like the boss in the corner of zg`
`03:54.40`	`Xinhuan`	`summons totems tat do aoe shadow damage`
`03:54.46`	`Xinhuan`	`only debuffed ppl can kill it`
`03:54.51`	`WobWork`	`oh that's right`
`03:55.03`	`WobWork`	`I didn't have too much trouble with that one`
`03:55.09`	`Xinhuan`	`if you're trying achievement, make sure nobody casts aoe spells like living bomb or consecration`
`03:55.19`	`WobWork`	`The aetherial was the easiest`
`03:55.36`	`WobWork`	`oh, there's an achievement?`
`03:55.46`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah.. not to kill any totems`
`03:55.52`	`Xinhuan`	`just heroism and zerg basically`
`03:55.54`	`Xinhuan`	`and use no aoe`
`03:55.54`	`WobWork`	`ah, just dps him down`
`03:56.01`	`RaydenU`	`woot`
`03:56.06`	`RaydenU`	`got the staff from heroic VH`
`03:56.08`	`Xinhuan`	`dampen magic helps`
`03:56.10`	`WobWork`	`grats =)`
`03:56.11`	`Xinhuan`	`so does aoe heals`
`03:56.26`	`WobWork`	`how do aoe heals damage the totems?`
`03:56.34`	`WobWork`	`oh you mean like holynova?`
`03:56.39`	`Xinhuan`	`yes`
`03:56.40`	`RaydenU`	`so what's the druid staff enchant these days?`
`03:56.46`	`RaydenU`	`i'm about 50/50 on tank/dps at this point`
`03:56.47`	`WobWork`	`who holynovas? =\`
`03:56.50`	`RaydenU`	`although tank is probably preferable`
`03:56.59`	`Xinhuan`	`use coh ;p`
`03:57.42`	`WobWork`	`this ^`
`04:01.49`	`KarlThePagan`	`inb4nerfs`
`04:02.15`	`Cryect`	`heh yes priests will need to cast other spells :-p`
`04:02.45`	`Cryect`	`though its sure annoying when you become a one spell class for most encounters :(`
`04:03.41`	`RaydenU`	`tanking most trash: swipe, maul, swipe, swipe, swipe, maul, swipe, swipe, swipe, maul...`
`04:03.59`	`WobWork`	`chainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainheal`
`04:04.01`	`WobWork`	`...heroismchainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainhealchainheal`
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`04:04.52`	`Arrowmaster`	`Zhinjio: Vera Sans Mono IS DejaVu Sans Mono`
`04:05.07`	`Cryect`	`much better when every ability has cooldowns that don't form into nice cycles`
`04:05.25`	`Cryect`	`Heh though then its just priority queue normally`
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`04:05.49`	`Xinhuan`	`wtb aoe mace stun that doesn't have GCD or cooldown`
`04:06.30`	`Xinhuan`	`(wtb patch already, fking d&d)`
`04:06.37`	`Cryect`	`yeah`
`04:06.45`	`Cryect`	`I couldn't believe the result when watching a DK tanking with that`
`04:06.57`	`Cryect`	`was like wtf at them taking 10% the damage of any other tank class`
`04:07.10`	`WobWork`	`Cryect: hehe DK is all about rotations`
`04:07.22`	`Cryect`	`yeah, I like that about DK's`
`04:07.30`	`Cryect`	`played my GF's a bit`
`04:07.30`	`WobWork`	`D&D doesn't reduce damage`
`04:07.33`	`Bruners`	`pvp as DK sucks balls`
`04:07.36`	`WobWork`	`whut?`
`04:07.40`	`Cryect`	`WobWork the fear does`
`04:07.53`	`Cryect`	`D&D chain fears the damn mobs practically`
`04:08.00`	`Cryect`	`so most the time they are doing nothing`
`04:08.07`	`WobWork`	`oh, the glyph`
`04:08.10`	`WobWork`	`yeah`
`04:08.12`	`WobWork`	`that's so OP =)`
`04:08.14`	`Cryect`	`Yeah, nerfd next patch though`
`04:08.23`	`Cryect`	`not sure what the person was thinking who came up with that :-p`
`04:08.28`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm referring to pvp use`
`04:08.31`	`Xinhuan`	`esp arenas`
`04:08.32`	`WobWork`	`"Woohoo zombies!" probably`
`04:08.34`	`Cryect`	`I mean if the proc rate was lower it wouldn't be too bad`
`04:08.39`	`Cryect`	`Haven't seen its usage in PvP`
`04:08.39`	`Xinhuan`	`its practically a free aoe mace stun`
`04:09.21`	`Bruners`	`is it only in my battlegroup that horde are total crap in AV at the moment ?`
`04:09.38`	`Cryect`	`Yes? Alliance total crap in mine`
`04:09.39`	`WobWork`	`yeh, I haven't glyphed that, cause I'd prefer to get used to not having that =P`
`04:09.42`	`Bruners`	`and like 1-2 AV's max`
`04:10.14`	`Repo`	`10grid: 03kunda * r1129 GridLocale-deDE.lua: deDE update`
`04:12.52`	`Xinhuan`	`Bruners, in my BG, every AV game is 40 hrode vs 24 alliance`
`04:13.11`	`Xinhuan`	`nobody even wants to play AV`
`04:13.59`	`Bruners`	`i have tested raid frames in 10 AV's and in all except one, the alliance got the perfection achivement`
`04:14.16`	`Xinhuan`	`are u on bg9`
`04:14.48`	`Xinhuan`	`the situation on bg9 is getting worse, because every game the horde doubles the alliance, no allianec wants to queue`
`04:14.54`	`Xinhuan`	`so its more like 40 vs 20 now`
`04:14.58`	`Xinhuan`	`and will be 40 vs 18 next week`
`04:15.04`	`doom0r`	`ruin is always ally win`
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`04:15.23`	`Xinhuan`	`well the horde is winning only bcause of numbers`
`04:15.26`	`Xinhuan`	`not because they are good`
`04:15.46`	`Xinhuan`	`alliance usually wins sota and ab for eg on my bg`
`04:16.05`	`Bruners`	`ab/eots are auto win on ours`
`04:16.16`	`Bruners`	`50/50 wsg`
`04:16.43`	`Bruners`	`not that i play pvp`
`04:16.53`	`WobWork`	`meh, Xinhuan`
`04:16.59`	`WobWork`	`You mentioned SOTA`
`04:17.04`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah`
`04:17.06`	`WobWork`	`and now I have that Basshunter song stuck in my head`
`04:17.08`	`Bruners`	`i dont even know what SOTA is :P`
`04:17.14`	`WobWork`	`Strand of the Ancients =P`
`04:17.16`	`WobWork`	`or whatever`
`04:17.22`	`Xinhuan`	`well alliance has advantage on sota for the defending achievement`
`04:17.27`	`Xinhuan`	`but that's about it`
`04:17.34`	`Bruners`	`maby i should try that one`
`04:17.45`	`Bruners`	`what is it like?`
`04:17.51`	`Xinhuan`	`its 15v15`
`04:17.54`	`Xinhuan`	`and you play 2 rounds`
`04:18.03`	`Xinhuan`	`in the first round, alliance attacks, horde defenes`
`04:18.15`	`Xinhuan`	`in the second round, you switch, horde attacks, alliance defends`
`04:18.21`	`Bruners`	`sounds cool`
`04:18.22`	`Xinhuan`	`the team that manages to win faster wins`
`04:18.23`	`Bruners`	`and fair`
`04:18.35`	`Xinhuan`	`so if in round 1, alliance wins in 4 min`
`04:18.40`	`Xinhuan`	`round 2 has a duration of 4 min`
`04:18.57`	`Xinhuan`	`if horde wins before 4 min, they win, if alliance defends all 4 min of it, they win`
`04:19.08`	`Xinhuan`	`time limit of round 1 is 10 min, so if both teams took 10 min, its a draw`
`04:19.30`	`fewyn`	`mmm 4k dps on patchwerk`
`04:19.55`	`Xinhuan`	`you can think of SOTA like a instanced Wintergrasp`
`04:20.02`	`Xinhuan`	`because, that's basically what it is`
`04:25.43`	`pastamancer`	`can anyone that's used the unitguid branch of grid on the 25-man malygos fight confirm that all the dragons showed up?`
`04:28.47`	`RaydenU`	`SOTA is the new battleground`
`04:28.54`	`RaydenU`	`DotA is a warcraft 3 custom map`
`04:28.58`	`RaydenU`	`and Basshunter made a song about it`
`04:31.50`	`Bruners`	`"vi sitter hÃ¤r i venten och spelar lite dota"`
`04:32.08`	`Bruners`	`sings`
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`04:34.34`	`Groktar`	`spits on sony vegas`
`04:34.49`	`Groktar`	`it either renders at 15fps for .5`
`04:34.51`	`Groktar`	`i don't get it`
`04:35.04`	`Groktar`	`*or`
`04:36.53`	`Repo`	`10revelation: 03Torhal * r44 Revelation.lua:`
`04:36.55`	`Repo`	`Changed how enchanting recipe matches were done so that 2H weapon enchants would not match on 1H weapons.`
`04:36.58`	`Repo`	`Fixed enchanting matches to not be broken with difficulty colors.`
`04:37.01`	`Repo`	`Small refactorings.`
`04:44.39`	`doom0r`	`lol @ nub who mispelled knight on their dk and is 61 already ;x`
`04:45.00`	`Xinhuan`	`maybe its on purpose`
`04:45.05`	`doom0r`	`no`
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`04:45.16`	`Xinhuan`	`because the non-misspelled version could have been name taken by someone else`
`04:45.46`	`doom0r`	`nope`
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`05:00.43`	`Repo`	`Fixes problem where Autofill function would hang if a Death Knight was in the raid group.`
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`05:02.26`	`doom0r`	`smelt elementium is down to yellow =\`
`05:02.29`	`Repo`	`10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone 041.3 * r38 : Tagging as 1.3.`
`05:06.57`	`doom0r`	`Zhinjio: ping`
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`05:10.27`	`Repo`	`10broker-tradecooldowns: 037destiny * r38 / (2 files in 2 directories): - added koKR (thanks amunra)`
`05:11.05`	`doom0r`	`meh, nvm, guess khorium spawns anywhere`
`05:15.27`	`Repo`	`New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ghostfight/. Ghost Fight. Cryect (Manager/Author). Approved by Xinhuan.`
`05:16.07`	`Xinhuan`	`Cryect, you need a better description on that one ;p`
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`05:20.36`	`Repo`	`10revelation: 03Torhal * r45 Revelation.lua: Changed some table usage to minimize garbage creation.`
`05:20.39`	`Repo`	`Now using wipe() as well.`
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`05:31.52`	`WobWork`	`Xinhuan: you mean it does more than fight ghosts?`
`05:51.13`	`theoddone33`	`is there a way to clear your combat log?`
`05:51.33`	`theoddone33`	`so that when you save it out to a file you don't get 4 hours of farming`
`05:51.46`	`Xinhuan`	`no`
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`05:52.02`	`theoddone33`	`that's sad`
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`05:54.55`	`Repo`	`Allow users to enable/disable chat window spew when selling.`
`05:54.58`	`Repo`	`Fix bug in "Buy" tab market price if you're the only seller.`
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`05:59.29`	`ckknight`	`SFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231912443303.jpg`
`06:00.09`	`amoeba`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:00.15`	`amoeba`	`um`
`06:00.28`	`theoddone33`	`hm I almost never believe that`
`06:00.45`	`amoeba`	`Did I just send a load of whitespace?`
`06:00.50`	`ckknight`	`yes, amoeba`
`06:01.00`	`amoeba`	`Ban me so I can feel like the world is right.`
`06:01.02`	`ckknight`	`theoddone33: I don't joke about the SFW-ness of stuff`
`06:01.14`	`theoddone33`	`yeah but 4chan is almost entirely NSFW`
`06:01.43`	`*** mode/#wowace [+b amoeba!@] by ckknight`
`06:01.46`	`ckknight`	`k, amoeba`
`06:01.57`	`*** mode/#wowace [-b amoeba!@] by ckknight`
`06:02.04`	`amoeba`	`I wonder how all that got in there anyway.`
`06:03.36`	`ckknight`	`CHOCOLATE RAIN`
`06:04.19`	`amoeba`	`What's the most logical compact cash display? gs*c, gsc (and other variants)?`
`06:07.44`	`Xinhuan`	`****** (without the gsc)`
`06:07.45`	`Xinhuan`	`:)`
`06:07.51`	`Xinhuan`	`that's the most compact!`
`06:07.54`	`amoeba`	`;)`
`06:07.58`	`Xinhuan`	`or just ***g`
`06:08.04`	`Xinhuan`	`sif you care about the silver/coppers`
`06:08.09`	`amoeba`	`Would you want g/s/c to have all leading zeroes?`
`06:09.16`	`doom0r`	`color code the numbers and use periods`
`06:10.18`	`Shefki`	`Display it in copper.`
`06:10.21`	`Xinhuan`	`08123415560578`
`06:10.22`	`amoeba`	`;P`
`06:10.26`	`Shefki`	`Tell the user to buy a calculator.`
`06:10.35`	`amoeba`	`I should just display it in base 2.`
`06:10.56`	`Shefki`	`You should display a pixel map of the binary number.`
`06:11.01`	`Bruners`	`1336.9g is the most logical display`
`06:11.16`	`Shefki`	`White = 1, Black = 0`
`06:11.25`	`amoeba`	You can't convert `10001100011100100100` to decimal quickly?
`06:11.39`	`Shefki`	`Users should install another addon that captures the image and calculates the number.`
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`06:13.13`	`quiescens`	`roman numerals`
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`06:14.52`	`Shefki`	`I should make a RawData bar for PitBull that when you load module disables all the other bars and just spews raw combat log event unfiltered across it.`
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`06:15.38`	`quiescens`	`Shefki plays by typing /cast for various spells really quickly`
`06:16.00`	`Shefki`	`OMG you found me out.`
`06:21.01`	`theoddone33`	`so I realized just now that /combatlog toggles logging`
`06:21.17`	`theoddone33`	`I could swear it used to save the current combat log to a file`
`06:21.18`	`quiescens`	`grats`
`06:21.55`	`quiescens`	`it used to save the past x lines and then continue logging`
`06:22.04`	`quiescens`	`until you type it again to stop it`
`06:22.11`	`quiescens`	`I don't know if it still works that way`
`06:22.38`	`theoddone33`	`that'd be convenient`
`06:22.48`	`doom0r`	`no`
`06:22.56`	`doom0r`	`save happens on quit`
`06:23.09`	`doom0r`	`that way a bot can't read the combatlog`
`06:23.26`	`Groktar`	`i died to a void zone :(`
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`06:26.31`	`theoddone33`	`yeah ok`
`06:26.49`	`theoddone33`	`it doesn't save the last x lines, just the period you toggled it in`
`06:26.57`	`theoddone33`	`and it doesn't write until you exit as mentioned`
`06:27.04`	`quiescens`	`eh, it doesn't save on quit, its obviously not synchronous but writes every time the buffer is full and then a last time on quit`
`06:27.17`	`theoddone33`	`hooray @ knowing that now, I wish I had known it before the raid`
`06:27.31`	`theoddone33`	`yeah maybe`
`06:27.42`	`theoddone33`	`mine was small enough that I couldn't say one way or the other`
`06:27.43`	`quiescens`	`and it's presumably more a performance thought than a security thought`
`06:27.57`	`theoddone33`	`past info isn't that useful to bots`
`06:27.59`	`theoddone33`	`I wouldn't think`
`06:28.26`	`doom0r`	`if it wrote everytime you hit the command`
`06:28.34`	`doom0r`	`past info wouldn't be so far int eh past`
`06:29.00`	`Repo`	`10little-wigs: 037destiny * r517 Zul'Drak/Trollgore.lua: - Trollgore: Fix woundBar`
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`06:43.24`	`ckknight`	`wow, /b/ threads 404 fast.`
`06:43.54`	`Thrae`	`ckknight: Sometimes 404 happens when an entry is being hit too hard.`
`06:44.00`	`ckknight`	`weird`
`06:44.03`	`ckknight`	`why is that?`
`06:44.30`	`Repo`	`10revelation: 03Torhal * r46 Revelation.lua:`
`06:44.33`	`Repo`	`Made enchanting recipes not have quantity sub-menus since queuing multiple enchants is not possible.`
`06:44.35`	`Repo`	`Removed some unused locals.`
`06:44.38`	`Repo`	`More table optimizations.`
`06:44.59`	`Thrae`	`The server, overloaded with requests, says the page doesn't exist instead of "I'm overloaded with requests for this particular page"`
`06:45.21`	`ckknight`	`does it ever come back?`
`06:45.30`	`ckknight`	`and also, seriously, it should 503`
`06:45.35`	`Thrae`	`Usually`
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`06:46.23`	`Thrae`	`Well, it has to do with the server talking to the system and not being smart enough to realize what's a 404 and what's a 503 issue, I believe.`
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`06:47.21`	`Thrae`	`I rarely see a 503 request, I think Apache implements 503 only when there's an actual HTTP overload and not on the sub-system.`
`06:47.43`	`ckknight`	`lameness`
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`07:10.46`	`Repo`	`10revelation: 03Torhal * r47 Revelation.lua: Reverted a table change to un-break recipe menu.`
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`07:12.43`	`Zhinjio`	`Hey Torhal`
`07:16.09`	`Repo`	`10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r32 LibFail-1.0.lua: fix Sartharion_VoidZone detection`
`07:16.29`	`Torhal`	`Zhinjio: Yo`
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`07:20.48`	`Torhal`	`Meh. Past bedtime.`
`07:21.28`	`quiescens`	`go to sleep`
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`08:22.13`	`ckknight`	`SFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231921072943.png`
`08:23.03`	`doom0r`	`LOL`
`08:23.08`	`doom0r`	`mmm, caps ftl`
`08:23.38`	`Repo`	`10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r1861 / (10 files in 7 directories):`
`08:23.42`	`Repo`	`Added WotLK tailoring, a 'Help' panel and augmented the wishlist code.`
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`08:45.42`	linear`	`any way i can delete my project on wowace?`
`08:46.26`	`rapidgame`	`is it possible to copy/paste code into lua-wow?`
`08:47.42`	`doom0r`	`lua-wow??`
`08:48.05`	`rapidgame`	`yeah, the lua interpreter configured for wow`
`08:49.17`	`doom0r`	`o, it's just a normal cli interpreter modded for wow`
`08:49.43`	`doom0r`	`isn't there an edit or in the title menu a paste option`
`08:49.48`	`doom0r`	`or even right click the window`
`08:50.45`	`rapidgame`	`haha, ty so much`
`08:51.10`	`rapidgame`	`im sooo silly lol, never thought to try right clicking the title bar - im not used to CLIs`
`08:51.18`	`doom0r`	`ya, windows sucks with that, normally shift+INSERT on other platforms`
`08:51.31`	`doom0r`	`should work on the main frame of the window too`
`08:53.27`	`rapidgame`	`nup, only the title bar that i can figure works so far`
`08:54.02`	`doom0r`	`o, forgot it makes its own window`
`08:55.23`	`rapidgame`	`thnx anyway dude, that made testing my addons way easier haha`
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`08:58.34`	`Repo`	`10grid: 037destiny * r1130 GridLocale-koKR.lua: koKR Update`
`09:01.18`	`Repo`	`10grid-status-hots: 03Sayclub * r98 GridStatusHots_locale.lua: koKR update`
`09:02.10`	`rapidgame`	`can anyone have a quick peek at some lua a wrote, cant figure out whats wrong - http://www.wowace.com/paste/135/`
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`09:05.38`	`doom0r`	`rapidgame: there's an option called quick edit in properties menu from right click, makes left click select right click paste btw`
`09:06.02`	`Shot`	`rapidgame: is it defintiely possible to set the value of the table from v?`
`09:06.35`	`Shot`	`I'd always thought it wasn't a reference, jsut a simple var - and I needed to set the value with table[k]`
`09:06.46`	`Shot`	`But i'm no expert`
`09:06.53`	`rapidgame`	`thanks, i'll try that`
`09:07.49`	`rapidgame`	`was messing around with it, and yeah i think v was assigned as a variable, instead of the reference to the value in the table (not sure if that makes sense haha, im no coder)`
`09:08.15`	`Shot`	`that's about as far as my understanding goes too :)`
`09:08.18`	`Shot`	`is it working now then?`
`09:08.26`	`rapidgame`	`oh thanks doom0r, i'll try the quick edit - i turned it on, but afterwards i couldn't turn it off without restarting the interpreter`
`09:08.36`	`rapidgame`	`just gunna try it now shot, fingers crossed haha`
`09:09.32`	`rapidgame`	`yep, replacing it with table[k] worked like a charm, thanks :-)`
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`09:10.17`	`Shot`	`Happy to know I'm good for something :D`
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`09:11.46`	`rapidgame`	`lol`
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`09:40.42`	`theoddone33`	`http://www.wowmeteronline.com/combat/1307417#damageout this is useless, but wow meter online is a lot of fun`
`09:41.19`	`theoddone33`	`I'm happy that people make this kind of software`
`09:43.54`	`sztanpet`	`why would it be useless`
`09:44.03`	`theoddone33`	`because it's heroic violet hold`
`09:44.11`	`sztanpet`	`so?`
`09:44.56`	`theoddone33`	`so there's nothing all that useful about it other than all the neat options WMO gives you that I'm looking at for the first time`
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`09:45.55`	`sztanpet`	`sure there is, now you know what the boss casts with how much crit chance and so on`
`09:52.47`	`EthanCentaurai`	`WTB a working Git program for Mac`
`09:56.05`	`EthanCentaurai`	`all I see when I push, pull or clone development URLs is "fatal: the remote hung up unexpectedly"`
`09:57.43`	`EthanCentaurai`	`and yes, I do have my SSH key set`
`09:59.31`	`amoeba`	`It's not your git install.`
`09:59.33`	`doom0r`	`maybe if you stopped calling so much and saying rude stuff`
`10:00.34`	`EthanCentaurai`	`I don't think it's my install, I can clone public repos fine, just not development repos :/`
`10:00.58`	`theoddone33`	`just made my first EJ post, time to get torn to shreds for not spending 5 hours searching for an answer before posting`
`10:00.59`	`amoeba`	`What's a development repo?`
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`10:01.48`	`EthanCentaurai`	`a development repo is what addon authors use to upload their code to`
`10:02.03`	`amoeba`	`And that's different from a public repo?`
`10:02.36`	`EthanCentaurai`	`for instance, a development url looks like git@git.wowace.com:wow/prat_signon/mainline.git rather than git://git.wowace.com/wow/prat_signon/mainline.git`
`10:02.56`	`EthanCentaurai`	`public repos do not allow code changes`
`10:03.19`	`amoeba`	`Ah. I had never heard those terms used. I've only seen 'public clone url' for pull-onlies.`
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`10:03.56`	`EthanCentaurai`	`you'll start seeing development urls when you become an addon author on WowAce :P`
`10:03.58`	`amoeba`	`I get your error every once in a while and it's because I've done something stupid. I end up figuring it out a few seconds later. Of course I can't remember any of the causes.`
`10:04.37`	`amoeba`	`I've been working with both of the things you're talking about for a long time now.`
`10:04.44`	`amoeba`	`I just lack exposure to the terms.`
`10:04.50`	`doom0r`	`EthanCentaurai: stop interchanging the terms repo and url`
`10:04.55`	`doom0r`	`!=`
`10:09.25`	`Repo`	`10proculas: 03Xocide * r142 modules/trinketprocs.lua: Added trinket: Pendulum of Telluric Currents`
`10:11.44`	`Natherul`	`i have an issue i wonder if someone else solved, whenever i log in the LFG channel is not shown as its filtered out form the chat each time i log in, any idea whats causing this?`
`10:12.42`	`doom0r`	`add commas please`
`10:14.07`	`amoeba`	`Natherul: I've either never noticed that happen or I have never had it happen.`
`10:14.09`	`rapidgame`	`anyone know how to use the "execute" type in AceConfig3? to to sure what my func = should look like`
`10:16.50`	`doom0r`	`http://old.wowace.com/wiki/AceConfig3`
`10:19.21`	`rapidgame`	`yeah, had a look there but im still getting an error`
`10:19.28`	`Repo`	`10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r62 GridStatusMana.lua: GridManaBars:`
`10:19.30`	`Repo`	`- reverted changes from 7destiny because a unitGUID version already exists in the unitGUID branch which will be merged soon`
`10:19.34`	`Repo`	`10prat_signon: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.2.5-2-g4a4c0cc SignOn.toc: [+1 commit] TOC to the hand, Interface ain't listening!`
`10:20.32`	`rapidgame`	`i want to have an "execute" type option that calls another function, ResetData(current), but im not sure what my "func ="line should look like`
`10:20.55`	`EthanCentaurai`	`func = function(self) doStuffHere() end,`
`10:22.48`	`Repo`	`10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r63 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridManaBars:`
`10:22.52`	`Repo`	`- merged unitGUID branch to trunk`
`10:23.37`	`rapidgame`	`thanks, i'll try that - also, what are the require entries in the table, im guessing type and func for an execute type, but what others? is the name value required?`
`10:23.38`	`Repo`	`10grid-status-hostile-unit: 03Julith 07unitguid * r42 GridStatusHostileUnit.lua: GridStatusHostileUnit:`
`10:23.40`	`Repo`	`- removed testing code`
`10:23.53`	`EthanCentaurai`	`name and desc`
`10:24.22`	`rapidgame`	`thanks :-)`
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`10:30.25`	`Repo`	`Updated "Torta is free software" notices at the top of the Lua files`
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`10:33.24`	`rapidgame`	`facepalm figured out why it wasn't going - forgot to add the comma at the end of my func line haha`
`10:34.09`	`Repo`	`10grid-status-hostile-unit: 03Julith * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridStatusHostileUnit:`
`10:34.11`	`Repo`	`- merged changes from unitGUID branch to trunk`
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`10:40.12`	`rapidgame`	`i know you can do get = "FunctionName", is it possible to do func = "FunctionName(params)" or is there another way to achieve the same outcome?`
`10:41.12`	`Repo`	`10proculas: 03Xocide 041.4.3 * r144 : Tagging as 1.4.3`
`10:42.13`	`EthanCentaurai`	`iirc you can do get = function(self) return value end, or get = "Fetch" which calls the addon:Fetch() function`
`10:42.25`	`EthanCentaurai`	`I use the first one myself`
`10:44.12`	`rapidgame`	`what im trying to do is func = "Fetch(params)" to call addon:Fetch(params) but i dont know how to support arguments`
`10:46.51`	`Repo`	`10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r126 / (7 files in 7 directories): [data] dataminer run`
`10:46.54`	`Repo`	`[Tradeskill.Mats.ByType] fixed some ids, removed some nyi/obsolete data`
`10:47.24`	`EthanCentaurai`	`here's how I do it: http://www.wowace.com/paste/136/`
`10:47.32`	`EthanCentaurai`	`maybe that can help`
`10:50.09`	`EthanCentaurai`	`placing get and set in the lower level of the table will make AceConfig use that for all options, so you don't end up writing multiple functions`
`10:50.23`	`EthanCentaurai`	`s/that for/them in/`
`10:51.22`	`rapidgame`	`im having a read through it now, thanks for post that!`
`10:56.55`	`Repo`	`10gsshield: 03Julith * r12 / (3 files in 1 directory): GridStatusShield:`
`10:56.57`	`Repo`	`- merged changes from unitGUID branch to trunk`
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`11:03.45`	`rapidgame`	`ahh, i now i understand what Callback Arguments are lol - couldn't quite get my head around the at first`
`11:03.53`	`thul`	`YOU STUPID RAPIDO`
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`11:07.25`	`rapidgame`	`haha thanks ;-)`
`11:07.40`	`rapidgame`	`will try ur method ethan, i'll let you know how it goes`
`11:08.10`	`digmouse`	`morning`
`11:10.17`	`rapidgame`	`haha hey, it's pretty early`
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`11:15.01`	`rapidgame`	`is it possible to set more than one "arg member in the node" for the info table in AceConfig?`
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`11:17.33`	`rapidgame`	`hmm, dont worry - i think i can make the arg thing a table lol`
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`13:00.08`	`Repo`	`10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r83 / (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line)`
`13:00.10`	`Repo`	`FuBar_ConvergeFu: Summary of changes in this update:`
`13:00.13`	`Repo`	`- Added /say announcements for 'nerf hunters' and 'aLL I EVER WANTED...'`
`13:00.15`	`Repo`	`- Updated officer names and related guild announcements.`
`13:00.18`	`Repo`	`- Updated 'guildinfo' response text.`
`13:00.19`	`Kalroth`	`hahah`
`13:00.27`	`jnwhiteh`	`ckknight: I haven't fully changed names yet, but went with this last time I opened my proxy so I've stuck with it. And mainly because no one knows how to say "Cladhaire", and its not the name of my main anymore`
`13:00.30`	`Kalroth`	`that addon again :p`
`13:00.41`	`Kalroth`	`I'm going to host my guilds addons on svn too!`
`13:00.43`	`jnwhiteh`	`plus I'm known in the open source community as jnwhiteh, so its consistent`
`13:01.06`	`Kalroth`	`cladhaire is hard to pronounce?`
`13:01.14`	`Kalroth`	`klad-hair^`
`13:01.31`	`jnwhiteh`	`not quite`
`13:01.33`	`jnwhiteh`	`its Irish`
`13:01.56`	`jnwhiteh`	`so "claw-ruh"`
`13:01.58`	`jnwhiteh`	`but not entirely`
`13:01.58`	`Kalroth`	`clad'o'hair`
`13:02.03`	`Kalroth`	`wtf`
`13:02.10`	`Kalroth`	`claw ruh?`
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`13:46.04`	`Repo`	`- removed unused localization strings`
`13:46.07`	`Repo`	`- deDE update`
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`14:12.45`	`Repo`	`10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r85 / (4 files in 1 directory): FuBar_ConvergeFu: Summary of changes in this update:`
`14:12.47`	`Repo`	`- Updated 'guildinfo' response text.`
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`14:15.32`	`Repo`	`- Fixed versions.`
`14:16.30`	`Repo`	`10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 043.35-release * r87 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release.`
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`14:16.59`	`Pneumatus`	`argh, the PT3 miner is borked on InstanceLoot :<`
`14:17.51`	`Elkano`	`no, it isn't`
`14:18.14`	`Elkano`	`you most likely forgot to activate mining for that sets`
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`14:18.32`	`Pneumatus`	`^InstanceLoot%. dataminer.lua:31: attempt to index local 'old' (a nil value)`
`14:18.35`	`Pneumatus`	`in printdiff()`
`14:19.34`	`Elkano`	`what did you try to mine?`
`14:19.43`	`Pneumatus`	`InstanceLoot.Naxxramas`
`14:19.59`	`Pneumatus`	`it's missing Trash drops, fwiw`
`14:21.07`	`Elkano`	`yeah, but that's due to no trash filter being implemented, especialy none that can handle heroic`
`14:21.18`	`Elkano`	`that's why I had it removed`
`14:21.41`	`Pneumatus`	`the trash filter can't differentiate at the moment?`
`14:22.05`	`Pneumatus`	`surely you could just filter ilevel 200/213 for normal/heroic`
`14:22.08`	`Repo`	`10grid: 03ananhaid * r1131 GridLocale-zhCN.lua: Grid:`
`14:22.10`	`Elkano`	`so you added InstanzeLoot.Naxxramas.Trash Mobs but not InstanceLootHeroic.Naxxramas.Trash Mobs, right?`
`14:22.11`	`Repo`	`- zhCN update.`
`14:22.53`	`Elkano`	`or no, wait, Trash Mobs should cancel out early anyways`
`14:23.46`	`Pneumatus`	`how long ago did they get split into InstanceLoot/InstanceLootHeroic?`
`14:24.35`	`Elkano`	`BC`
`14:25.13`	`Elkano`	`but without the trash, the mining works. I have to know since I did that ^^`
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`14:27.39`	`Pneumatus`	`probably a dumb question, but how do you pass the dataminer the global vars to change its behavior?`
`14:31.53`	`Elkano`	`text editor`
`14:31.54`	`Pneumatus`	`oh, -e`
`14:32.27`	`Pneumatus`	`lua -e "INSTANCELOOT_CHKSRC = true" dataminer.lua" InstanceLoot.Naxxramas`
`14:32.30`	`Pneumatus`	`appears to work :o`
`14:32.44`	`Pneumatus`	`without the final quote`
`14:32.55`	`Stanzilla`	`http://www.wowbash.com/images/1227398949.jpg < awesome`
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`14:40.54`	`thul`	`haha`
`14:40.56`	`thul`	`nice one Stanzilla :-P`
`14:41.00`	`thul`	`I kind of want to run naxx 25 man tonight`
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`14:54.06`	`thul`	`I need a mature guild :-(`
`14:54.49`	`many`	`join us`
`14:54.58`	`thul`	`hehe`
`14:54.59`	`many`	`ohwait, EU-DE isnt for you. is it? :)`
`14:55.06`	`thul`	`are you european, alliance? :-P`
`14:55.09`	`many`	`yes`
`14:55.35`	`thul`	`and i can get away with being social, raiding 1-2 times per week and being generally lots of fun? :-P`
`14:55.48`	`sacarasc`	`sounds like my guild`
`14:55.51`	`many`	`whistle`
`14:56.02`	`sacarasc`	`casually raids 5 times a week`
`14:56.03`	`many`	`we are a social guild, we never raid`
`14:56.08`	`Fisker-`	`WHAT THE SHIT ckknight`
`14:56.17`	`Shot`	`falls over`
`14:56.20`	`Repo`	`10hazloot: 03MightyHaz 04v0.1-alpha * r4 : Tagging as v0.1-alpha`
`14:56.25`	`many`	`iam glad when we get enough peop together to group up 10 man`
`14:56.26`	`Fisker-`	`4chan is featured on wikipedia`
`14:56.28`	`Fisker-`	`....`
`14:56.36`	`sacarasc`	`what class/spec are you, thul?`
`14:56.43`	`thul`	`hehe, as long as i can do a 25-man naxx, heroics and some fun stuff I'm happy :-P`
`14:56.45`	`ckknight`	`Fisker-: it sure is`
`14:56.47`	`ckknight`	`btw`
`14:56.49`	`ckknight`	`all me.`
`14:57.06`	`ckknight`	`also, Fisker-, look at /b/'s pagecount`
`14:57.12`	`thul`	`I'm a deathknight, I alternate between dps/frost and tank/unholy and tank/frost :-P (and i got a rogue and paladin alt :-P )`
`14:57.12`	`many`	`thul: you can, not with the guild, however`
`14:57.21`	`Fisker-`	`old ckknight`
`14:57.55`	`sacarasc`	`getting in YADK would be hard`
`14:58.30`	`thul`	`many: hehe, that is ok.`
`14:58.59`	`thul`	`I guess I should look for some kind of collective.. my old guild was kind of like that, we did some raids, some heroics, talked shit on vent etc :-D`
`14:59.02`	`thul`	`had great fun :-P`
`14:59.16`	`sacarasc`	`if you were an ele shaman or a boomkin, you'd have a place in my guild`
`15:00.06`	`thul`	`hehe, I got a shaman :-P he is ench.`
`15:00.33`	`thul`	`the guy i did HoL with last night, 2-3k dps enhancement shaman, did a 12k triple windfury crit`
`15:00.36`	`thul`	`that was.. fun`
`15:01.06`	`ckknight`	`SFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231941899484.jpg`
`15:01.12`	`thul`	`the tank had to really work to hang on :-P`
`15:01.25`	`thul`	`hahaha, guess what mistake i did THREE times last night?`
`15:02.16`	`sacarasc`	`ckknight: linking to /b/ is stupid`
`15:02.34`	`ckknight`	`but hilarious at times`
`15:02.48`	`sacarasc`	`it 404s too quick`
`15:02.58`	`sacarasc`	`you should back up the image and give that link out too`
`15:03.40`	`ckknight`	`I know it won't last long`
`15:03.52`	`ckknight`	`but those who click within this 5-minute grace can see it`
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`15:04.42`	`sacarasc`	`5 mins is sometimes too long`
`15:04.52`	`sacarasc`	`i;ve seen /b/ links die within seconds`
`15:06.57`	`Megalon`	`5 mins w/o being taken down on /b/, those don't deserve to be there then in the first place!`
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`15:07.31`	`sacarasc`	`hah`
`15:08.01`	`Fisker-`	`btw`
`15:08.06`	`Fisker-`	`Live Mesh is awesome but stupid`
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`15:09.12`	`Fisker-`	`fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu opendns btw`
`15:09.27`	`Fisker-`	`it takes over windows live`
`15:09.27`	`Fisker-`	`fgts`
`15:11.19`	`Elkano`	`talking about M$... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTXG2uKNLIw`
`15:11.24`	`Zao`	`Fisker-: Sounds zealous.`
`15:11.38`	`Fisker-`	`it is`
`15:12.15`	`Zao`	`Wasn't it them that redirected all non-hits to themselves?`
`15:13.47`	`Fisker-`	`dunno`
`15:13.57`	`Fisker-`	`But i need it cause my fgt isp went censhorship mode`
`15:14.18`	`nevcairiel`	`Elkano: thats a stupid ad`
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`15:14.52`	`Elkano`	`true true`
`15:15.08`	`Repo`	`10under-hood: 03Anadale 072 * r41 / (8 files in 4 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines)`
`15:15.11`	`Repo`	`UnderHood:`
`15:15.13`	`Repo`	`- DK's runic power supported by alpha engine`
`15:15.16`	`Repo`	`- Fixed the bug with incorrect texture sizing`
`15:15.19`	`Repo`	`- Fixed the bug with auras overflow`
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`15:16.06`	`papyros`	`os`
`15:16.27`	`ckknight`	`I need to find a way to blame Islam for all of life's problems`
`15:16.27`	`Repo`	`10little-wigs: 03ananhaid * r518 / (3 files in 2 directories): LittleWigs:`
`15:16.29`	`Repo`	`- zhCN/zhTW update.`
`15:16.39`	`ckknight`	`especially the most disconnected ones that have nothing to do with it`
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`15:16.52`	`Stanzilla`	`they eat bread`
`15:16.57`	`Repo`	`10under-hood: 03Anadale 042.0 * r42 : UnderHood:`
`15:16.59`	`Repo`	`- Tagged as 2.0 release`
`15:17.00`	`Stanzilla`	`cool enough, right?`
`15:17.07`	`ckknight`	`curse their black hearts`
`15:17.09`	`ckknight`	`...bread`
`15:17.10`	`ckknight`	`psh`
`15:17.56`	`ckknight`	`okay, time for work`
`15:21.15`	`thul`	`when i get rich, I'll have 4 naked, sexy cello-playing girls in my room each evening.`
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`15:22.10`	`Kaelten`	`g'morning`
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`15:23.17`	`Fisker-`	`Kaelten my friend`
`15:24.01`	`Kaelten`	`errr`
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`15:24.47`	`Fisker-`	`lulz`
`15:24.59`	`Fisker-`	`appears that my ISP already removed TPB from the block`
`15:25.01`	`thul`	`pingpongs Kaelten`
`15:25.01`	`Fisker-`	`i lol'd`
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`15:26.59`	`Zyndrome`	`blocking TPB as an ISP, is a sure way to lose customers`
`15:27.53`	`nevcairiel`	`soem block full torrent port ranges`
`15:28.05`	`nevcairiel`	`or limit traffic above port > 1024`
`15:28.16`	`Grum`	`sigh just use Tor to get around any blocks`
`15:28.18`	`Zyndrome`	`"lets shoot ourself in the foot" :<`
`15:28.47`	`nevcairiel`	`Its better for them to lose some customers that would cost them too much in traffic`
`15:28.49`	`ckknight_`	`Zyndrome: unless every ISP available does it`
`15:28.51`	`Grum`	`and blocking portranges you cant get around unless you have some box hanging somewhere with enough bandwidth`
`15:29.04`	`Grum`	`ckknight_: which will never happen :p`
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`15:29.29`	`Zyndrome`	`if Telia would do it ... oh god, a shitstorm of apocalyptic proportions`
`15:29.35`	`ckknight_`	`Grum: if it's legislated by law...`
`15:29.39`	`ckknight_`	`brb`
`15:29.50`	`Grum`	`ckknight_: then people will use something other than torrents`
`15:30.01`	`nevcairiel`	`Telia's nets already suck`
`15:30.03`	`Grum`	`or disguise it as a difference service`
`15:30.06`	`nevcairiel`	`wouldnt matter much`
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`15:30.29`	`nevcairiel`	`Grum: sure, but it would block the "common" people from doing it`
`15:30.30`	`Grum`	`the only way to stop downloading is making sure everyone has 4kb/s download speed`
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`15:30.45`	`nevcairiel`	`and thats already a lot of bandwidth`
`15:30.48`	`nevcairiel`	`that they save`
`15:31.08`	`Grum`	`yeah but the first second someone does 'oooh TBP+SSL' the block is gone`
`15:31.20`	`Grum`	`and if everyone gets blocked everyone will start using that eventually`
`15:31.27`	`Grum`	`see the move from napster -> torrents`
`15:31.27`	`nevcairiel`	`nah they wont`
`15:31.31`	`nevcairiel`	`people are lazy`
`15:31.42`	`Grum`	`yes but if it doesnt work anymore people will move :)`
`15:31.44`	`nevcairiel`	`they only use stuff thats really easy`
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`15:31.55`	`Grum`	`they use easy stuff which works`
`15:31.57`	`nevcairiel`	`if they need to spend more time, they'll just give up`
`15:32.07`	`Grum`	`if the easy stuff stops working they move to the 'second best easy stuff'`
`15:32.21`	`Grum`	`i agree that part will not`
`15:32.21`	`nevcairiel`	`most likely, they wont`
`15:32.32`	`Grum`	`well what is 'easy' atm?`
`15:32.36`	`Grum`	`torrents is still quite advanced`
`15:32.39`	`Grum`	`compared to napster orso`
`15:32.40`	`nevcairiel`	`90% of the users of the users have no idea what they really do`
`15:32.45`	`nevcairiel`	`they do what some smart guy told them to`
`15:32.52`	`nevcairiel`	`-of the users`
`15:33.24`	`nevcairiel`	`"hey here is emule, there is a search field, type in name of song there, and click download"`
`15:33.35`	`nevcairiel`	`if it stops working, they wouldnt find alternatives`
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`15:34.14`	`Grum`	`yup`
`15:34.25`	`Grum`	`that is how it started; emule then napster .. kazaa etc`
`15:34.35`	`Grum`	`and they killed them all`
`15:34.42`	`Grum`	`and the threshold for torrents is still quite high`
`15:34.45`	`nevcairiel`	`emule still works somewhat`
`15:34.50`	`nevcairiel`	`my sister uses it for songs =P`
`15:34.52`	`Grum`	`after that you'll have newsgroups`
`15:35.02`	`Kalroth`	`soulseek :p`
`15:35.06`	`Grum`	`oh yeah and DC .. as long as you have groups you can join into`
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`15:35.29`	`nevcairiel`	`dont newsgroups still require some pay-for newsgroup server access?`
`15:36.27`	`Grum`	`yes and no; most ISPs give free access to very limited retention servers`
`15:36.42`	`Fisker-`	`hah`
`15:36.45`	`Fisker-`	`my ISP is awesome`
`15:36.48`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah but no access to the alt.bin usually`
`15:36.49`	`Grum`	`if you want have >25days you'll have to go to payware`
`15:36.50`	`Kalroth`	`Your ISP usually got a non-binary newsgroup server. You'll have to pay for binary newsgroups almost always today.`
`15:36.58`	`Fisker-`	`30 days retention and good speeds`
`15:37.17`	`AckisWork`	`nevcairiel: do you really need access to alt.bin.pics.erotica.donkey ?`
`15:37.17`	`Fisker-`	`Though they limited connectionspeed to 30kB/s a while back`
`15:37.25`	`Fisker-`	`But didn't limit the amount of connections = fail troll`
`15:37.29`	`Kalroth`	`I got an account at easynews, never had any problems with them`
`15:37.39`	`nevcairiel`	`AckisWork: definately, because you won't show me the pics =(`
`15:37.42`	`Grum`	`i've got giganews for over 3 years now`
`15:37.45`	`AckisWork`	`sorry :(`
`15:37.47`	`Grum`	`nothing better :)`
`15:38.03`	`nevcairiel`	`I'm using torrent`
`15:38.05`	`nevcairiel`	`;)`
`15:38.24`	`Grum`	`i used to have a nice site .. but it got busted ;'(`
`15:38.34`	`nevcairiel`	`I mostly dl tv series`
`15:38.37`	`AckisWork`	`i used to use newsgroups and torrents then i realized that I downloaded too many things and never actually watched/played/whackedoff to them all`
`15:38.38`	`Grum`	`same`
`15:38.55`	`Grum`	`i just watch 6-9 episodes per day @ work ;D`
`15:39.00`	`Kalroth`	`lol`
`15:39.06`	`nevcairiel`	`how much do you pay for that news thing?`
`15:39.21`	`Kalroth`	`I think I pay $10 a month`
`15:39.21`	`Grum`	`dunno .. 20 euros orso?`
`15:39.24`	`AckisWork`	`Grum: you should dry-code`
`15:39.36`	`Grum`	`AckisWork: why? :)`
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`15:39.55`	`AckisWork`	`why not?`
`15:40.01`	`Grum`	`drycoding is boring?`
`15:40.08`	`AckisWork`	`on a side note, anyone have suggestions on how to alleviate a gallbladder attack?`
`15:42.32`	`Fisker-`	`Shoot yourself`
`15:42.36`	`Megalon`	`bunket at choke, and watch out for dropships`
`15:42.44`	`Zao`	`Gut out gallbladder.`
`15:42.45`	`Megalon`	`s/bunket/bunker/`
`15:43.12`	`Megalon`	`and the attack shall be fend off!`
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`16:03.46`	`zoktar`	`anyone know how to increase the size of the status colored dots on grid?, mine are tiny.`
`16:04.07`	`zoktar`	`like for aggro and inc heals`
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`16:05.53`	`Repo`	`10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory): * Added Ace3 external dependencies in a .pkgmeta`
`16:05.55`	`Repo`	`* Moved one of the deadmines test classifications back to where it belongs`
`16:05.58`	`Repo`	`* Reinstated some of the colouring code`
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`16:20.34`	`steev`	`mykx: yes, our 3s team is horribad :)`
`16:20.39`	`steev`	`hell our 2s is too`
`16:20.52`	`steev`	`but considering we do 10 games every monday and thats it...`
`16:21.00`	`steev`	`it kinda makes me sad`
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`16:33.27`	`AckisWork`	`ok, how do you do a manual merge? foo.lua, foo.mine, foo.1234 and foo.1237`
`16:34.07`	`pastamancer`	`you mean copy and paste?`
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`16:35.49`	`nevcairiel`	`AckisWork: look at foo.lua, search the merge markers, change file =P`
`16:37.07`	`AckisWork`	`copy and paste works, I really have no idea why 3 were created`
`16:37.17`	`AckisWork`	`brb`
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`16:37.36`	`nevcairiel`	`thats default behaviour`
`16:37.59`	`nevcairiel`	`1234 is your base revision`
`16:38.06`	`nevcairiel`	`1237 the rev from the repo`
`16:38.12`	`nevcairiel`	`and .mine your original WC`
`16:38.18`	`nevcairiel`	`.lua is the mereg with the conflicts`
`16:38.34`	`nevcairiel`	`s/mereg/merge/`
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`17:00.29`	`Repo`	`10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r139 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts:`
`17:00.31`	`Repo`	`- Table recycling fixes`
`17:00.35`	`Repo`	`10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander * r154 MiniPet.lua: MiniPet:`
`17:00.37`	`Repo`	`- Table recycling fixes`
`17:03.22`	`AckisWork`	`nevcairiel: ok so if I review and manually edit the .lua and resolve there, it should be good to go?`
`17:03.30`	`nevcairiel`	`yeah`
`17:03.34`	`nevcairiel`	`call svn resolve afterwards`
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`17:04.08`	`AckisWork`	`k, I've only done the gui diff shit before (nice and easy)`
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`17:07.09`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03Ackis * r1369 AckisRecipeList.lua: Wheee`
`17:07.15`	`Xinhuan`	`his table recycling code must be really bad`
`17:07.22`	`Xinhuan`	`to need 20 commits to fix`
`17:08.06`	`AckisWork`	`victory`
`17:08.18`	`Xinhuan`	`now switch to git already`
`17:08.22`	`Xinhuan`	`:)`
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`17:08.30`	`Xinhuan`	`you don't want to do that more than once ever`
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`17:08.32`	`Xinhuan`	`hehe`
`17:09.10`	`AckisWork`	`I like the commit locally, and push a bunch of changes with git/hg, however the command line stuff seemed too... cumbersome? with git which is why I went back to the svn simple process and have almost 1400 revisions`
`17:10.59`	`Xinhuan`	`in this day and age, command line is old and should be forgotten ;p`
`17:11.15`	`Xinhuan`	`although admittedly you can do stuff in it that GUIs can't`
`17:11.16`	`AckisWork`	`command line works at work for me :P`
`17:11.20`	`Bruners`	`command line can often do task faster`
`17:11.32`	`Xinhuan`	`yes but do you really need that speed?`
`17:11.48`	`Xinhuan`	`a 0.2sec commit vs a 0.19sec commit?`
`17:11.49`	`thul`	`i like command line with some stuff, gui with some stuff`
`17:11.53`	`Bruners`	`depends what your doing :P`
`17:11.55`	`zoktar`	`anyone know if u can make the indicatior dots bigger on grid? lile the red one for threat or the green one for inc heals?`
`17:12.00`	`thul`	`some stuff I prefer doing in a gui, edit pictures for instance`
`17:12.01`	`thul`	`:-P`
`17:12.26`	`Bruners`	`Xinhuan: i was talking about command line in general, not just git`
`17:12.51`	`Xinhuan`	`operating system wise, GUI is just as fast`
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`17:13.03`	`Xinhuan`	`such as mass copying files`
`17:13.03`	`Bruners`	`like now instead of opening the calculator to do 2+2 and can just type /calc 2+2`
`17:13.24`	`zoktar`	`nm found it`
`17:13.44`	`steev`	`thul: gimp can run in console...`
`17:15.07`	`AckisWork`	`@project hazloot`
`17:15.09`	`Repo`	`AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/hazloot/. HazLoot. Game: WoW. MightyHaz (Manager/Author). Updated: 68 minutes ago`
`17:16.57`	`steev`	`greens annoy me`
`17:17.04`	`steev`	`and my roommate is retarded`
`17:17.23`	`steev`	`every time we raid its master loot and rare for loot level or whatever`
`17:17.40`	`steev`	`and every freaking time he loots a green, OH CRAP SORRY ROLL FOR THE LOOT`
`17:17.47`	`Groktar`	`huggles steev`
`17:17.51`	`steev`	`and every freaking time we are like, its a god damn green, keep the shit`
`17:20.35`	`Groktar`	`i roll need on greens`
`17:25.15`	`steev`	`can't roll need when it doesn't come up :-P`
`17:25.23`	`steev`	`which is his complaint`
`17:25.45`	`steev`	`but since its master looter, im not gonna stop every 3 mobs to have people roll on the greens`
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`17:31.27`	`AckisWork`	`ok gall bladder attack seems to have stopped... whee`
`17:36.08`	`Zhinjio`	`G'morning.`
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`17:56.28`	`Repo`	`- More recycling changes`
`17:56.32`	`Repo`	`- Simplify current display`
`18:02.12`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03Ackis * r1370 AckisRecipeList.lua: Change debug code around a bit`
`18:03.39`	`Zhinjio`	`I found it.`
`18:03.43`	`Zhinjio`	`the font is called "Consolas"`
`18:03.47`	`Zhinjio`	`thats the winner.`
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`18:04.18`	`amoeba`	`Consolas is a solid font.`
`18:06.48`	`steev`	`which is better than an outline font`
`18:07.29`	`Repo`	`10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r64 / (2 files in 1 directory):`
`18:07.31`	`Repo`	`- Ensure we check InstanceLootHeroic.* for drop sources, not just InstanceLoot.*`
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`18:11.35`	`AckisWork`	`has anyone heard of toons that have smelting but do not have mining in their spellbook?`
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`18:12.02`	`gix`	`hm i just updated grid to a recent version. was the ability to show your party as extra row removed?`
`18:12.06`	`gix`	`in a raid layout that is`
`18:13.32`	`Bruners`	`can you SetTexCoord on LDB icons ?`
`18:14.01`	`dodga`	`gix: Why would they do that! :/`
`18:14.59`	`Zhinjio`	`Bruners: context?`
`18:15.11`	`Zhinjio`	`in your own addon, in a display addon?`
`18:16.27`	`jnwhiteh`	`Bruners: I added support to the spec for it`
`18:16.30`	`jnwhiteh`	`iconCoords`
`18:16.31`	`gix`	`dodga: i don't know.`
`18:16.33`	`Zhinjio`	`invariably, the first question though, is "why"?`
`18:16.34`	`jnwhiteh`	`see TomTom and NInjaPanel`
`18:16.45`	`jnwhiteh`	`iconR, iconG, and IconB also`
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`18:18.17`	`Repo`	`10proculas: 03Xocide * r145 modules/trinketprocs.lua: Added Death Knight's Anguish`
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`18:19.53`	`Pneumatus`	`AckisWork: that shouldnt even be possible :o`
`18:20.15`	`Bruners`	`Zhinjio: in my own addon`
`18:20.26`	`Bruners`	`jnwhiteh: cool`
`18:21.30`	`Bruners`	`Zhinjio: if i want to use an ingame icon that looks terrible if we dont remove the white border`
`18:21.36`	`jnwhiteh`	`among other reasons`
`18:21.46`	`jnwhiteh`	`the fact of the matter is, not every icon is a simple texture to be loaded`
`18:22.14`	`AckisWork`	`Pneumatus: getting reports of it`
`18:22.18`	`Zhinjio`	`it seems to me that the simplest path is to make your own, given the size.`
`18:22.24`	`Zhinjio`	`but maybe thats just me`
`18:22.31`	`jnwhiteh`	`Zhinjio: what if my LDB plugins aren't addons`
`18:22.40`	`jnwhiteh`	`what if they're scripts that run from WowLua or Hack?`
`18:22.52`	`Zhinjio`	`you're weird?`
`18:22.54`	`Zhinjio`	`grin`
`18:22.55`	`jnwhiteh`	`and supporting iconCoords and icon colors is trivial`
`18:23.09`	`Bruners`	`Zhinjio: uhm, use icon and specify the coords`
`18:23.29`	`Bruners`	`Zhinjio: for me its less work then to extract the icon`
`18:23.51`	`Zhinjio`	`nods. I already have all the artwork extracted. To each their own.`
`18:24.09`	`Bruners`	`and no point having the same icon twice is it ?`
`18:24.57`	`Zhinjio`	`I see your point. I just accomplish that goal in a different way. Carry on. Nothing to see here.`
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`18:27.58`	`steev`	`mmm evilwm`
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`18:37.17`	`NeoTron`	`so I was OTing patchwerk and was outthreating the warrior MT`
`18:37.30`	`NeoTron`	`that was cool (I didn't pull aggro butit was close)`
`18:38.02`	`NeoTron`	`jnwhiteh: ButtonBin handles iconCoords/RGB too`
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`18:38.13`	`jnwhiteh`	`nod I saw that`
`18:38.21`	`NeoTron`	`not very difficult to add indeed`
`18:38.39`	`NeoTron`	`only issue I have with the TomTom LDB thing is that when I remove the last arrow it doesn't hid`
`18:38.50`	`NeoTron`	`I guess that's fixable but I don't want a "dead" arrow :P`
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`18:39.28`	`pompy1`	`NeoTron: what class are you?`
`18:39.45`	`jnwhiteh`	`NeoTron: why would a plugin hide itself?`
`18:39.51`	`jnwhiteh`	`the arrow goes back to the default position`
`18:39.54`	`jnwhiteh`	`in that cavse`
`18:40.01`	`jnwhiteh`	`slightly offset, green with "No waypoint'`
`18:40.01`	`NeoTron`	`jnwhiteh: I don't want the arrow visible, or the text, when I have no waypoint`
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`18:40.09`	`jnwhiteh`	`oh, well I don't like that`
`18:40.10`	`NeoTron`	`just like I don't want a waypoint visibile when I have no waypoint`
`18:40.26`	`jnwhiteh`	`I dont like plugins just magically 'appearing'`
`18:40.28`	`NeoTron`	`last I tried it, and it might be better now, it just remained pointing in a random direction`
`18:40.32`	`jnwhiteh`	`I prefer they have presence`
`18:40.36`	`NeoTron`	`pompy1: DK`
`18:40.53`	`steev`	`frost presence`
`18:41.19`	`NeoTron`	`http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&n=Morasia check my leet spec`
`18:41.31`	`NeoTron`	`I am close to 32k unbuffed health now.`
`18:41.44`	`selckin`	`nerf`
`18:42.16`	`Bruners`	`jnwhiteh: so i have to add coords with an update function ?`
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`18:42.17`	`selckin`	`i'm at like 29.something with best gear there is pritty much`
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`18:42.36`	`jnwhiteh`	`Bruners: I'm not sure what you mean, or what you're referring to`
`18:43.18`	`Bruners`	`jnwhiteh: ldb icon coords, looking at ninjapanel its done in a updateplugin function`
`18:43.35`	`jnwhiteh`	`Its like any other LDB attribute`
`18:43.40`	`jnwhiteh`	`when its changed, you do something`
`18:44.00`	`jnwhiteh`	`so you set ldbObject.iconCoords to a new table, and those icon coords are applied`
`18:44.09`	`jnwhiteh`	`when set to nil, they're restored to the default`
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`18:45.51`	`NeoTron`	`mind you I picked up blood to get 6% extra stamina`
`18:46.09`	`NeoTron`	`solely for sartharion tanking. my spec is shit for anything that requires me to do anything but survive that :P`
`18:46.29`	`NeoTron`	`but I got 4 upgrades last night so that was nice`
`18:46.31`	`Pneumatus`	`sounds like me as a disc priest :P`
`18:47.18`	`NeoTron`	`heh`
`18:47.52`	`Pneumatus`	`while i hate disc, grace, aegis and PS are win for sarth+3 maintank`
`18:48.18`	`AckisWork`	`~#wowace`
`18:48.25`	`selckin`	`NeoTron: hope you know about the bugged talents :)`
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`18:49.16`	`NivFreak`	`Pneumatus: yep`
`18:49.26`	`NivFreak`	`situationally useful`
`18:49.29`	`NivFreak`	`and that's one of them :)`
`18:49.57`	`NeoTron`	`selckin: hmm?`
`18:50.06`	`NeoTron`	`selckin: clearly, I don't :P`
`18:50.14`	`Pneumatus`	`i had aegis up for about 95% of our last sarth+3drake kill, which wasnt bad`
`18:50.40`	`selckin`	`NeoTron: there are some bugged talents (i'm not a dk) that wil make magic shield fail on some proc etc, i don't know exactly`
`18:51.14`	`NivFreak`	`oh yea`
`18:51.17`	`NivFreak`	`I was reading about that`
`18:51.24`	`NivFreak`	`it's the frost resistence talent`
`18:52.20`	`selckin`	`our dk messed up some talents, then fixed it the next attempt, and got killed alot`
`18:52.27`	`selckin`	`then he specced back to the old, after reading about the bugs`
`18:53.13`	`NeoTron`	`acclimation?`
`18:54.14`	`Primer`	`Anyone know how many bosses in naxx drop t7.5 shoulder tokens?`
`18:54.18`	`selckin`	`don't think it was that`
`18:54.37`	`Primer`	`I know Loatheb and Gluth do, but do any others?`
`18:54.43`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: I'm trying to find the reference, I thought it was frost`
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`18:55.25`	`NivFreak`	`ah`
`18:55.28`	`NivFreak`	`it's spell defelection`
`18:55.34`	`NeoTron`	`ah. didn't spec that`
`18:55.42`	`NeoTron`	`since the breath is not direct damage spell anyway`
`18:56.18`	`NivFreak`	`apparently when it procs it caps your reduction to 30%`
`18:56.20`	`pompy1`	`Primer: those are the only two bosses that do`
`18:56.30`	`NivFreak`	`so if you have AMS/AMZ up they don't help :)`
`18:56.39`	`NeoTron`	`that's pretty lame`
`18:56.48`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03Ackis * r1371 / (5 files in 2 directories):`
`18:56.51`	`Repo`	`Add more info for the new recipes in 3.08 (ty adys). Update the custom strings to be more... proper.`
`18:56.56`	`NivFreak`	`did you see the prot warrior bug they hotfixed?`
`18:56.57`	`NivFreak`	`lol`
`18:57.23`	`pompy1`	`NivFreak: what's that?`
`18:59.30`	`NivFreak`	`not getting the def multiplier after death until you change stances`
`18:59.40`	`NivFreak`	`who changes stances now days? ;)`
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`19:00.19`	`selckin`	`tps modiefier?`
`19:00.25`	`selckin`	`same with dk right?`
`19:02.22`	`NivFreak`	`similar mechanic`
`19:02.34`	`NivFreak`	`our defenseive stance modifies our dmg in terms of threat`
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`19:08.07`	`steev`	`is there a way to get like, Find Mineral to show back up over in buffs? (using SBF)`
`19:08.16`	`AckisWork`	`Pneumatus: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6878/miningxt1.png`
`19:09.13`	`Pneumatus`	`weird :o`
`19:09.38`	`AckisWork`	`very`
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`19:10.14`	`Primer`	`pompy1: thanks`
`19:10.36`	`steev`	`kicks addons that require Alt+mouse to move`
`19:10.54`	`NivFreak`	`yea, I hate that ;)`
`19:11.06`	`steev`	`annoying as piss in X`
`19:11.18`	`NivFreak`	`and SBF is offically my favorite mod this year`
`19:11.51`	`steev`	`i love sbf, i just wish i could have it show find minerals since for whatever reason i haven't tracked down i still can't get chinchilla to show my icons on the sides`
`19:12.49`	`steev`	`ckknight: does the runebar count as power or threat or what in pb4 or does it not exist yet in pb4 and its really the ingame runes im seeing?`
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`19:14.09`	`NivFreak`	`so I assume there's no way to ping a minimap location of something you're targeting`
`19:14.23`	`NivFreak`	`I assume they would restrict that`
`19:14.40`	`NeoTron`	`you can ping where you are only afaik`
`19:16.19`	`Groktar`	`i just dropped my tv`
`19:16.25`	`Groktar`	`and it put a big hole in the floor`
`19:16.26`	`Groktar`	`fuck`
`19:16.30`	`NivFreak`	`lol`
`19:16.31`	`NivFreak`	`poor tv`
`19:16.46`	`ckknight`	`steev: ingame runes`
`19:16.53`	`steev`	`ckknight: thanks`
`19:17.27`	`steev`	`Groktar: stop dropping your tv then`
`19:17.44`	`Groktar`	`lol`
`19:17.51`	`Groktar`	`i don't give a shit about the tv`
`19:17.53`	`Groktar`	`but the floor...`
`19:19.17`	`steev`	`if you don't give a shit about the tv, why are you picking it up? just leave it where it is`
`19:19.34`	`Zhinjio`	`IE doesn't allow site-specific cookie clearing without registry hackage, right?`
`19:19.44`	`Zhinjio`	`its been so long since I've used it... I have no idea anymore`
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`19:19.53`	`steev`	`people still use IE?`
`19:19.55`	`pentium166`	`you could go through your temporary internet files folder and delete cookies`
`19:19.57`	`pentium166`	`i believe.`
`19:20.17`	`AckisWork`	`Zhinjio: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6878/miningxt1.png <-- that's why jim-bim is having that ticket problem`
`19:20.51`	`Fisker-`	`IE is awesome`
`19:21.05`	`Zhinjio`	`AckisWork: thats whacekd.`
`19:21.07`	`pentium166`	`maybe in the days of netscape 4 it was`
`19:21.11`	`Zhinjio`	`does it persist through a reload?`
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`19:22.00`	`AckisWork`	`Zhinjio: yes`
`19:22.15`	`Yasuo`	`hiho`
`19:22.28`	`Yasuo`	`someone knows how to add skills to autobar fields?`
`19:22.39`	`Yasuo`	`[x]drop seems not to work`
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`19:23.59`	`Zhinjio`	`AckisWork: thats whacked. hrm`
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`19:27.03`	`Kaelten`	`what's the syntax for blocking an ip with iptables`
`19:27.07`	`Kaelten`	`I can't remember it`
`19:28.10`	`ckknight`	`hey all, I'm working on localization namespaces now`
`19:28.30`	`ckknight`	`and one of the ways to export is to have L["Alpha/Bravo/Charlie"] = "blah"`
`19:28.40`	`ckknight`	`for lua, though, what should the separator character be by default?`
`19:28.47`	`ckknight`	`(you can set it to whatever you please)`
`19:28.56`	`Fisker-`	`Kaelten if i show you how will you do exactly as i tell you?`
`19:29.08`	`Kaelten`	`lol,`
`19:29.17`	`Fisker-`	`http://www.netadmintools.com/art216.html`
`19:29.18`	`Fisker-`	`try that one`
`19:29.29`	`Fisker-`	`if not sudo rm -rf /`
`19:29.34`	`AckisWork`	`make it something funky like Ã¡`
`19:29.39`	`durcyn`	`iptables -I input -s 10.0.0.0 -j DROP`
`19:29.48`	`ckknight`	`AckisWork: I was thinking either "." or "/"`
`19:30.01`	`durcyn`	`assuming you don't have some kind of exotic rule chains set up`
`19:30.21`	`Fisker-`	`gets erotically exotic with durcyn`
`19:30.36`	`durcyn`	`hey now, i'm allergic to danes`
`19:30.54`	`Fisker-`	`:(`
`19:31.00`	`Fisker-`	`Everyone is allergic to danes :(`
`19:31.02`	`Fisker-`	`or so i've been told`
`19:31.08`	`ckknight`	`I know I am`
`19:32.26`	`mykx`	`does anybody here have one of the GTX 295 cards ?`
`19:32.38`	`Fisker-`	`nah`
`19:32.40`	`Fisker-`	`Not worth it`
`19:32.44`	`Fisker-`	`Getting a 285 instead`
`19:32.49`	`mykx`	`I just ordered one, wondered how they perform in wow :P`
`19:33.09`	`Fisker-`	`GPU isn't a bottleneck in wow etc.`
`19:33.18`	`mykx`	`E8500 to go along with it^^ :)`
`19:33.43`	`Fisker-`	`gz on being cpu bottlenecked`
`19:33.45`	`Fisker-`	`:3`
`19:34.29`	`mykx`	`how so? that's the second fastest dual core on the market`
`19:36.51`	`syeren`	`Wooo`
`19:36.54`	`syeren`	`Wintergrasp.`
`19:36.59`	`syeren`	`Amazing incompetence Blizzard.`
`19:38.15`	`pentium166`	`s/Wintergrasp/WOTLK PVP/`
`19:38.38`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: Would it be a bad idea to automaticly set project locale flagged as translated if it is fully translated in the "translation app"?`
`19:38.50`	`ckknight`	`yes`
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`19:41.04`	`fewyn`	`Laptop or second monitor?`
`19:41.48`	`pentium166`	`laptop = second monitor`
`19:41.54`	`pentium166`	`might be a bit small though!`
`19:42.13`	`fewyn`	`i can't decide`
`19:42.59`	`Nickenyfiken`	`ckknight: hehe ok :-)`
`19:45.26`	`Zhinjio`	`anyone in here use Opie?`
`19:45.34`	`Zhinjio`	`or OPie, or whatever`
`19:45.45`	`Hirsute`	`Kaelten: Are you set on not using a wrapper for iptables?`
`19:45.56`	`Groktar`	`think i can throw an old computer case into recycling?`
`19:46.00`	`Groktar`	`basically just steel`
`19:46.16`	`Groktar`	`no parts in it`
`19:46.29`	`dodga`	`Zhinjio: Yeah I do`
`19:46.33`	`ckknight`	`probably, if it's just the case`
`19:46.37`	`Zhinjio`	`dodga: can you explain what is meant by "Tapping"`
`19:46.51`	`Groktar`	`hehe`
`19:46.55`	`dodga`	`hitting the binding twice in a short period of time`
`19:47.08`	`dodga`	`the exact time can be configured somewhere in its options`
`19:47.24`	`Zhinjio`	`what is the desired behavior?`
`19:47.43`	`Groktar`	`OMG`
`19:47.47`	`Groktar`	`I FOUND MY DIABLO II DISCS`
`19:47.49`	`dodga`	`e.g. you have a ring with a healing potion on it and make that the tap action`
`19:47.58`	`dodga`	`and that ring is bound to "F1"`
`19:48.01`	`Zhinjio`	`ok`
`19:48.06`	`dodga`	`so hitting F1 twice will use the potion`
`19:48.09`	`Zhinjio`	`oh!`
`19:48.36`	`Zhinjio`	`so if I have like... 5 items on a ring assigned to F1... how do I get a particular icon to be the tap action?`
`19:48.47`	`dodga`	`I think on the automagic quest ring, tapping will use the last used quest item`
`19:49.11`	`dodga`	`Zhinjio: In the ring options you can make an action (spell/macro/item) the tapping action`
`19:49.16`	`dodga`	`there's a checkbox somewhere`
`19:49.20`	`Zhinjio`	`ok, so its not dynamic`
`19:49.22`	`Zhinjio`	`thats ok.`
`19:49.37`	`dodga`	`Zhinjio: On the quest ring it is, i think`
`19:49.42`	`Zhinjio`	`oh, wait.`
`19:49.44`	`Zhinjio`	`I see it`
`19:49.49`	`Zhinjio`	`"Repeat the last-used action when tapped"`
`19:49.51`	`dodga`	`I don't use tapping. Find it confusing that the ring pop ups for a jiffy`
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`19:51.16`	`Repo`	`10recount: 03Elsia * r971 Tracker.lua: Recount:`
`19:51.18`	`Repo`	`- Remove FD debug message. This and last version fix the problem that FD is reported as real deaths for group members (not self though).`
`19:51.52`	`Dark_Elf`	`anybody know where can find the latest version of !buggrabber ?`
`19:52.08`	`Zhinjio`	`hmm.`
`19:52.13`	`Zhinjio`	`I can't seem to get it to work.`
`19:55.06`	`dodga`	`maybe the time is too low`
`19:56.40`	`Mikk`	`~seen ominous`
`19:56.42`	`purl`	`ominous <n=Ominous@212.183.134.128> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 90d 6h 14m 38s ago, saying: 'yea i know'.`
`19:56.51`	`Mikk`	`riiiight`
`19:57.40`	`Zhinjio`	`does outfitter support switching outfits with /commands?`
`19:57.55`	`Zhinjio`	`I'd love to get rid of this goddamn outfit bar`
`19:58.01`	`Hirsute`	`Zhinjio: Not that I'm aware, but I'm not an outfitter expert.`
`19:58.08`	`Zhinjio`	`pokes in the code`
`19:59.32`	`Zhinjio`	`yeah, /outfitter wear outfitname`
`19:59.34`	`Zhinjio`	`apparently`
`19:59.46`	`Mikk`	`question: do other people see email addresses @ e.g. http://www.wowace.com/profiles/mikk/ ? or am i speshul because of moderation privs`
`20:00.28`	`steev`	`Mikk: i can't even get it to load`
`20:00.42`	`Mikk`	`hehe yeah having the same problem right now; webshite froze up`
`20:03.30`	`Mikk`	`there, it woke up now`
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`20:06.52`	`ckknight`	`SFW: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1231962715290.jpg`
`20:08.04`	`Pneumatus`	`i wonder if 3.0.8 will actually stop raiding being a turn-based game`
`20:08.32`	`Bruners`	`im banned from 4chan :(`
`20:08.36`	`ckknight`	`lol, Bruners`
`20:08.47`	`Pneumatus`	`dont post childporn then`
`20:09.13`	`Bruners`	`posted in a boxxy thread`
`20:09.19`	`Bruners`	`http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/4chan_ban.jpg`
`20:10.10`	`ckknight`	`ah`
`20:10.16`	`ckknight`	`it'll expire soon enough`
`20:11.02`	`Pneumatus`	`ip based bans are lollerskates`
`20:11.21`	`Bruners`	`only way on a forum like that`
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`20:16.33`	`robotusch`	`tbh, you fukken deserved that ban`
`20:16.38`	`robotusch`	`Boxxy is the cancer etc etc`
`20:18.49`	`Repo`	`Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/ by ckknight`
`20:19.14`	`ckknight`	`so who wants to help test namespaces?`
`20:19.16`	`ckknight`	`;-)`
`20:19.31`	`Megalon`	`isn't boxxy just like rickrolling`
`20:19.38`	`Megalon`	`but without the awesomeness that is rick astley?`
`20:20.15`	`ckknight`	`sorta`
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`20:27.07`	`Chompers`	`hey ckk, how's pitbull4 going?`
`20:27.14`	`ckknight`	`well enough`
`20:27.42`	`Chompers`	`nice, i was talking a friend through the config screens of pitbull3`
`20:27.58`	`ckknight`	`have you tried PB4 yet?`
`20:28.00`	`Chompers`	`not an easy task :P`
`20:28.05`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`20:28.07`	`ckknight`	`definitely`
`20:28.09`	`Chompers`	`noy yet, i didn't think it was in any sort of state to be tested`
`20:28.21`	`ckknight`	`sure, test away`
`20:28.24`	`ckknight`	`just don't raid yet`
`20:28.27`	`ckknight`	`:P`
`20:28.29`	`Chompers`	`sweet, ill try it out after the raid`
`20:28.43`	`ckknight`	`I just don't suggest the masses to use it`
`20:28.45`	`Chompers`	`i was talking a guy through cowtip options`
`20:28.48`	`ckknight`	`competent people only, kthx`
`20:28.53`	`Chompers`	`everyone who uses it, loves it`
`20:29.07`	`ckknight`	`cool`
`20:29.13`	`Chompers`	`you totally need to add some presets or something`
`20:30.07`	`ckknight`	`for PitBull or CowTip?`
`20:30.20`	`Chompers`	`i was thinking cowtip`
`20:30.23`	`Chompers`	`but it would be awesome for both`
`20:31.00`	`Stanzilla`	`21:28:52 â ckknight: competent people only, kthx < that means I can delete it, right? :P`
`20:31.08`	`ckknight`	`you're competent enough`
`20:31.11`	`ckknight`	`_just_ above the bar`
`20:31.12`	`Stanzilla`	`<3`
`20:31.15`	`Stanzilla`	`haha`
`20:31.28`	`Shirik`	`only people that match my standard`
`20:31.34`	`Shirik`	`but I am very difficult to reach`
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`20:34.06`	`Chompers`	`sorry, was doing the heigan dance`
`20:34.34`	`Chompers`	`i found people liked the preset tags in pitbull, perhaps something like that in cowtip`
`20:34.45`	`ckknight`	`yea...`
`20:34.47`	`Chompers`	`seeing the line edit box for the first time turns alot of people away i've found`
`20:35.31`	`ckknight`	`yea...`
`20:36.18`	`Xinhuan`	`and the lack of a ingame FAQ/help file`
`20:36.20`	`Stanzilla`	`I get turned away by cowtip crashing my wow`
`20:36.27`	`Stanzilla`	`that's the coolest shit`
`20:37.01`	`ckknight`	`Xinhuan: dude, that's been in for a while`
`20:37.03`	`ckknight`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:37.06`	`Xinhuan`	`i mean initially`
`20:37.12`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`20:37.17`	`Xinhuan`	`having to alt-tab to do stuff was annoying`
`20:37.59`	`Xinhuan`	`whats the namespacing stuff you added?`
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`20:39.22`	`Xinhuan`	`i mean how to use it`
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`20:42.41`	`ckknight`	`Xinhuan: add namespaces to your localization app`
`20:42.46`	`ckknight`	`then phrases can be assigned to namespaces`
`20:43.24`	`ckknight`	`then you can export single namespaces or a namespace and all its subnamespaces`
`20:43.29`	`Wizardling`	`Is there any way to fix IceHUD so you can set focus with out an error saying "Ace 2 has been blocked from a function availbe only to the Blizzard UI"?`
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`20:44.52`	`Pneumatus`	`its a bug with the function to set focus iirc`
`20:45.38`	`Xinhuan`	`ckknight, i think an example is clearer`
`20:45.46`	`Xinhuan`	`as i don't understand the new stuff`
`20:45.48`	`ckknight`	`say you got a module`
`20:45.55`	`ckknight`	`let's say PitBull4's Auras`
`20:46.01`	`ckknight`	`you make a namespace, "Aura"`
`20:46.09`	`ckknight`	`all phrases for the Aura module go under that`
`20:46.12`	`ckknight`	`instead of under the global one`
`20:46.25`	`Pneumatus`	`is that so you can split the namespaces to separate locale files?`
`20:46.30`	`Pneumatus`	`for exporting`
`20:46.46`	`ckknight`	`you can if you want`
`20:46.49`	`ckknight`	`that's up to you, personally`
`20:46.56`	`ckknight`	`you could do it all one file`
`20:47.02`	`ckknight`	`all one table with subtables`
`20:47.07`	`ckknight`	`all one table with concatenated keys`
`20:47.14`	`ckknight`	`["Aura/Enabled"] = "Enabled"`
`20:47.17`	`ckknight`	`for instance`
`20:47.31`	`ckknight`	`I give the dev a lot of power with how they want to export it`
`20:47.33`	`Wizardling`	`the thing is other users report it's not an issue`
`20:47.38`	`Wizardling`	`are they wrong?`
`20:47.55`	`Groktar`	`bleeds all over Wizardling`
`20:48.00`	`Wizardling`	`(about focus setting with IceHUD installed)`
`20:48.03`	`Xinhuan`	`handle-subnamespaces`
`20:48.07`	`Wizardling`	`blinks`
`20:48.10`	`ckknight`	`Xinhuan: correct`
`20:48.10`	`Xinhuan`	`what does "concat" do`
`20:48.18`	`ckknight`	`Xinhuan: "Aura/Enabled"`
`20:48.20`	`ckknight`	`where Aura is the module`
`20:48.35`	`ckknight`	`Xinhuan: so it'd be one big table, still`
`20:48.36`	`NivFreak`	`I wish icehud had portraits and spell cast icons`
`20:48.47`	`Xinhuan`	`oh just the key is "Aura/Enabled"?`
`20:48.49`	`ckknight`	`yea`
`20:48.55`	`ckknight`	`you can specify the delimiter, though`
`20:48.59`	`ckknight`	`so it could be Aura_Enabled`
`20:49.02`	`ckknight`	`or Aura;Enabled`
`20:49.15`	`ckknight`	`or Aura Xinhuan is dum Enabled`
`20:49.16`	`ckknight`	`whatever you want`
`20:49.26`	`Xinhuan`	`i see, hmm`
`20:49.33`	`Xinhuan`	`not sure if that will be useful yet`
`20:49.54`	`Xinhuan`	`how does subtables work? L["Aura"]["Enabled"] ?`
`20:50.37`	`ckknight`	`yes, Xinhuan`
`20:50.45`	`ckknight`	`though AceLocale-3.0 doesn't have great support for that`
`20:50.47`	`Xinhuan`	`in this case, a namespace cannot also be the key for another string`
`20:50.54`	`Xinhuan`	`is there checks for this?`
`20:51.11`	`ckknight`	`no`
`20:51.19`	`ckknight`	`since you don't _have_ to export that way`
`20:51.59`	`Xinhuan`	`i'll probably try it over this weekend`
`20:52.07`	`Xinhuan`	`on ummm Postal`
`20:52.10`	`Daemona`	`where is the funkeh dude?`
`20:52.19`	`Daemona`	`~seen funkeh'`
`20:52.21`	`purl`	`Daemona: i haven't seen 'funkeh''`
`20:52.30`	`Daemona`	`~seen funkeh`
`20:52.31`	`purl`	`funkeh <n=funkydud@host81-158-173-52.range81-158.btcentralplus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 655d 2h 53m 1s ago, saying: 'hi'.`
`20:52.51`	`EthanCentaurai`	~seen Funkeh`
`20:52.51`	`purl`	funkeh` <n=funk@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/BigWigs/funkeh> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 20h 18m 39s ago, saying: 'had enough of fidlding with windows 7'.
`20:53.42`	`Wizardling`	`IceHUD is horribly hard to setup`
`20:53.50`	`NivFreak`	`nah`
`20:53.52`	`NivFreak`	`it's not bad`
`20:53.56`	`NivFreak`	`nothing like pitbull ;)`
`20:54.00`	`ckknight`	`where is ackis`
`20:54.07`	`ckknight`	`shakes fist`
`20:54.10`	`NivFreak`	`I assume the icehud author doesn't come in here?`
`20:54.10`	`Wizardling`	`Pitbull was easy after I figured it out`
`20:54.13`	`ckknight`	`NivFreak: hey, PB4 is easy`
`20:54.20`	`ckknight`	`PB3 is pretty heinous, though`
`20:54.21`	`Wizardling`	`IceHUD is skocking`
`20:54.22`	`NivFreak`	`ckknight: too late, you lost me! :)`
`20:54.30`	`ckknight`	`well you're just a jerk, then`
`20:54.33`	`NivFreak`	`Wizardling: I really found it quite simple`
`20:54.34`	`Wizardling`	`Oh, PitBull is pretty bad`
`20:54.44`	`NivFreak`	`ckknight: it's not really your fault anymore`
`20:54.47`	`Wizardling`	`first time I tried it I gave up almost immediately`
`20:54.49`	`NivFreak`	`I just needed less clutter`
`20:54.49`	`ckknight`	`:P`
`20:54.55`	`NivFreak`	`so I'm trying to go all HUD`
`20:54.56`	`Wizardling`	`but then the second time it was clearer`
`20:55.00`	`Chompers`	`pb4 will have presets, one called "DO YOU DO THE HEULZ", the other is "PEWPEWPEW"`
`20:55.05`	`NivFreak`	`I do still use pitbull for pet/pettarget/focus/focus target`
`20:55.06`	`Chompers`	`no setup necessary`
`20:55.09`	`*** part/#wowace Dark_Elf (i=Dark_Elf@ip91.net253.mw.net)`
`20:55.27`	`Wizardling`	`trouble with Pitbull 3 is it's broken for raid frame sizing`
`20:55.39`	`Shefki`	`No it isn't.`
`20:55.57`	`NivFreak`	`grid are the only frames I need`
`20:56.04`	`Wizardling`	`I cannot size main tanks, etc indenpendanyly of raid group #1, #2, etc`
`20:56.13`	`Shefki`	`Yes you can.`
`20:56.21`	`NivFreak`	`and oh yea, I forgot I still use pitbull for MTs too`
`20:56.23`	`Wizardling`	`I couldn't`
`20:56.28`	`Pneumatus`	`Chompers: what about for tanks?!`
`20:56.30`	`NivFreak`	`ckknight: are auras working in pb4 yet?`
`20:56.35`	`Shefki`	`There's just a bug that causes say resizing MT to resize the normal raid frames until you reload.`
`20:56.39`	`Chompers`	`oh shi...`
`20:56.40`	`ckknight`	`NivFreak: yes, but direct your question to Shefki`
`20:56.52`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: are auras working on pb4 yet? :)`
`20:56.56`	`NivFreak`	`:P`
`20:56.58`	`Wizardling`	`So I just need to eload and all will be well?`
`20:57.03`	`Wizardling`	`*reload`
`20:57.04`	`Shefki`	`But the configured size will stick and it'll work right on every subsequent load will be right.`
`20:57.15`	`Shefki`	`Wizardling: Yup.`
`20:57.20`	`Wizardling`	`damn, I wish that had been mentioned the other day`
`20:57.29`	`Shefki`	`Wizardling: Pretty sure I told you this. :)`
`20:57.38`	`Shefki`	`NivFreak: Yes, no filters yet though.`
`20:57.44`	`Wizardling`	`sorry if I missed it :-)`
`20:57.47`	`Wizardling`	`doh`
`20:57.52`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: can I resize buffs/debuffs cast by me?`
`20:57.57`	`Wizardling`	`well screw IceHUD - it's impenetrable.`
`20:58.10`	`NivFreak`	`Wizardling: not sure why you have a hard time with it`
`20:58.10`	`Wizardling`	`It should will a bad UI design award`
`20:58.13`	`Shefki`	`NivFreak: I could implement it, but it'd look retarded until sorting is done.`
`20:58.34`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: both are features I can't live without now days`
`20:58.35`	`NivFreak`	`;)`
`20:58.45`	`NivFreak`	`the buffs/debuffs are insane in 3.0`
`20:58.48`	`Wizardling`	`what does IceHUD's config mode do for example?`
`20:58.51`	`NivFreak`	`SBF saves my sanity`
`20:58.55`	`Wizardling`	`Nothing so far as I can tell`
`20:58.58`	`NivFreak`	`Wizardling: it just shows all bars`
`20:59.03`	`Wizardling`	`not for me`
`20:59.04`	`Shefki`	`NivFreak: The border system is entirely different. Frankly Borders are probably plenty to tell your buffs from others.`
`20:59.15`	`NivFreak`	`Wizardling: do you have the bars you want enabled? :P`
`20:59.27`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: screenshots yet?`
`21:00.06`	`Wizardling`	`NM, I had trans. set wrong`
`21:00.08`	`Wizardling`	`gods`
`21:00.12`	`Wizardling`	`noob error`
`21:00.20`	`Wizardling`	`I was changing too much at once`
`21:00.23`	`selckin`	`what you need to show debuffs on players, and buffs on mobs`
`21:00.25`	`NivFreak`	`small tweaks :)`
`21:00.28`	`selckin`	`all the rest filtered to your class`
`21:00.31`	`selckin`	`:\`
`21:00.37`	`NivFreak`	`I like icehud, but I'm probably going to try something else`
`21:00.37`	`Chompers`	`addons selckin, addons`
`21:00.51`	`NivFreak`	`I'm very dependant on castbar icons`
`21:00.57`	`Wizardling`	`okay, what are the dark outlines I'm seeing with some frames?`
`21:01.00`	`NivFreak`	`and I prefer having a target portrait`
`21:01.35`	`Wizardling`	`IceHUD is ugly as sin anyway`
`21:01.41`	`Wizardling`	`MetaHUD's much nicer`
`21:01.41`	`NivFreak`	`I like it`
`21:01.45`	`Wizardling`	`but less able`
`21:01.54`	`Shefki`	`NivFreak: http://shefki.org/ScreenShot_011409_130054.png`
`21:01.57`	`NivFreak`	`know of any other huds using dogtags?`
`21:02.24`	`Shefki`	`Stuff on the left are buffs.`
`21:02.28`	`Shefki`	`Stuff on the right are debuffs.`
`21:02.43`	`taleden`	`is there some convention about addons with names ending in HUD? is that some particular author's line of addons?`
`21:02.49`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: and how do I know which are mine`
`21:02.51`	`Shefki`	`Buffs or Debuffs you cast have green borders.`
`21:02.58`	`Shefki`	`Ones you don't cast have red.`
`21:03.00`	`NivFreak`	`taleden: heads up display`
`21:03.06`	`Shefki`	`It's hard to see it in this screenshot but...`
`21:03.10`	`Shefki`	`Unlike PB3.`
`21:03.11`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: I see it`
`21:03.11`	`Pneumatus`	`i still use ArcHud2 :o`
`21:03.22`	`Shefki`	`Borders were by buff or debuffs.`
`21:03.26`	`taleden`	`I know the acronym, I was about to release an addon called AuraHUD`
`21:03.32`	`taleden`	`just wanted to make sure I wasn't stepping on some author's namespace, so to speak`
`21:03.41`	`NivFreak`	`nope ;)`
`21:03.43`	`Pneumatus`	`i could never get IceHUD looking like ArcHUD2 so i gave up on it`
`21:03.46`	`NivFreak`	`what is aurahud? :)`
`21:03.47`	`Shefki`	`So debuffs always had debuff type as the border.`
`21:03.52`	`taleden`	`rewrite of smarty`
`21:04.03`	`Shefki`	`and buffs always had bordering by who cast it.`
`21:04.08`	`Shefki`	`PB4 works like so:`
`21:04.30`	`Shefki`	`Friendly auras = Auras someone frinedly cast. Buffs on Friends. Debuffs on Enemys`
`21:04.42`	`Shefki`	`Friendly Aura borders are by who cast it. You or someone else.`
`21:05.08`	`Shefki`	`Unfriendly auras = Auras some enemy cast. Debuffs on Friends. Buffs on Enemies.`
`21:05.18`	`Shefki`	`Unfriendly aruas are colored by dispel type.`
`21:05.45`	`*** join/#wowace Ithato (n=mellerfa@64-199-29-162.ip.mcleodusa.net)`
`21:05.52`	`*** join/#wowace sb (n=sb@2001:1638:181c:10:f438:55b0:e4fd:5448)`
`21:06.13`	`Shefki`	`The point is you never give a crap what the dispel type of something you cast is. You want to know if it's yours or the other death knight over there...`
`21:07.09`	`Shefki`	`Anyway there are a number of ways of distinguishing your stuff from other stuff. But sizing will be implmented as well.`
`21:07.10`	`NivFreak`	`yea`
`21:07.18`	`NivFreak`	`and my use cases are:`
`21:07.24`	`NivFreak`	`is that my unimproved commanding shout up?`
`21:07.29`	`NivFreak`	`is that my unimproved demo shout up?`
`21:07.37`	`NivFreak`	`is that my improved thunder clap up?`
`21:07.39`	`Chompers`	`i hate use case diagrams`
`21:07.49`	`Shefki`	`You can turn cooldown spinners off for stuff that isn't yours as well.`
`21:08.09`	`Chompers`	`its all i do in my lectures, endless use cases`
`21:08.18`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: sure, but I'll often reapply a tanking debuff before the person who is supposed to`
`21:08.33`	`NivFreak`	`just because I can't always rely on my melee to be in range at the right times (depending on the flight)`
`21:08.45`	`Wizardling`	`Is Pitbull 4 ready for just solo and party play?`
`21:08.49`	`Shefki`	`NivFreak: I'm just telling you what the options are right now. Not telling you that sizing won't be done.`
`21:09.08`	`NivFreak`	`well the border system certainly might fill my needs`
`21:09.11`	`Shefki`	`I use it for doing dailies at this point. But I haven't bothered with using it for raids since raid frames aren't done.`
`21:09.13`	`Wizardling`	`Can I upgrade to it and expect all my settings I make not to be lost in v4 final?`
`21:09.15`	`NivFreak`	`I haven't tried it of course`
`21:09.21`	`Shefki`	`Wizardling: No`
`21:09.26`	`Ithato`	`what would be the most efficient way to create and iterate over a collection of numbers with no associated data?`
`21:09.28`	`NivFreak`	`Shefki: I don't use pitbull raid frames :)`
`21:09.34`	`NivFreak`	`I haven't for a long time`
`21:09.41`	`NivFreak`	`but there's still player/target/tot`
`21:09.51`	`Ithato`	`i.e. for the values 1, 5, and 7 i want to execute some lua`
`21:09.57`	`Wizardling`	`okay, well is there any advantage to v4 bta right now?`
`21:10.00`	`Wizardling`	`Over v3?`
`21:10.00`	`ckknight`	`PB4 should work for solo/party, but of course there may be issues`
`21:10.02`	`Ithato`	`using a list and pairs/ipairs seems kind of awkward`
`21:10.10`	`Wizardling`	`*beta`
`21:10.17`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: don't call it beta`
`21:10.19`	`Wizardling`	`sorry - shocking typing today`
`21:10.20`	`ckknight`	`it's not beta`
`21:10.20`	`Wizardling`	`gah`
`21:10.22`	`Shefki`	`for i = 1, #list do`
`21:10.25`	`Shefki`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:10.26`	`Shefki`	`end`
`21:10.27`	`Wizardling`	`well, unfinished`
`21:10.35`	`Shefki`	`Where list is the name of the table.`
`21:10.36`	`ckknight`	`it's alpha`
`21:10.36`	`Wizardling`	`sorry - what are you calling this version?`
`21:10.39`	`Wizardling`	`oh`
`21:10.50`	`Wizardling`	`well that's more correct`
`21:11.01`	`ckknight`	`if you want, you can try it out`
`21:11.02`	`Shefki`	`It's Alpha because it's not even feature complete.`
`21:11.05`	`Wizardling`	`I'm too used to people misusing alpha and beta status`
`21:11.06`	`Ithato`	`Shefki: not sure why i didn't think of that, but tyvm`
`21:11.10`	`Wizardling`	`so even I start to`
`21:11.11`	`ckknight`	`but you might realize that it's not ready for you yet`
`21:11.44`	`Greltok`	`Ithato: are the numbers contiguous?`
`21:11.45`	`Wizardling`	`god knows enough 'final version' products are released which are really beta quality.`
`21:12.03`	`Ithato`	`Greltok: no, but I can keep them in ascending order at least`
`21:12.03`	`Wizardling`	`ckknight - TY`
`21:12.11`	`Shefki`	`Wizardling: What I can say is that for the most part there doesn't seem to be a lot of bugs in what is implemented.`
`21:12.11`	`Ithato`	`Greltok: no regular patterns`
`21:12.17`	`Chompers`	`i think my computer is my screen, is pitbull4 for me?`
`21:12.18`	`Greltok`	`Why not just use pairs()?`
`21:12.30`	`Shefki`	`Greltok: pairs = function call`
`21:12.42`	`Wizardling`	`Shefki - any harm in trying it? Will it change v3 settings?`
`21:12.43`	`Shefki`	`for i = 1, #list do = no function call`
`21:12.47`	`ckknight`	`Chompers: you're mistaken, there's actually a witch in your monitor`
`21:12.48`	`Shefki`	`Wizardling: No and no. :)`
`21:12.51`	`ckknight`	`that's what makes the light come on.`
`21:12.52`	`Wizardling`	`cool`
`21:12.53`	`Wizardling`	`TY`
`21:13.08`	`Ithato`	`Shefki: i'd still be using a table lookup by i in that case`
`21:13.10`	`ckknight`	`if you find bugs or want features, report them sanely`
`21:13.12`	`Greltok`	`Shefki: Since the numbers aren't contiguous, that won't work.`
`21:13.16`	`ckknight`	`if you report badly, I'll just file as invalid`
`21:13.21`	`Greltok`	`{ 3, 7}`
`21:13.22`	`Shefki`	`Ithato: Right.`
`21:13.25`	`Greltok`	`# = 2`
`21:13.26`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: that was to you`
`21:13.27`	`Chompers`	`lies ckk, its a rat in a wheel in the 'box'`
`21:13.33`	`ckknight`	`witch!`
`21:13.41`	`Shefki`	`Greltok: If he's using an array it would still be valid.`
`21:13.45`	`Wizardling`	`though I think an import function from v3 would be cool for some. I fear I'm going to forget all the setup I'm doing now :-D`
`21:13.54`	`Shefki`	`{ 3, 7 } really is { [1] = 3, [2] = 7}`
`21:13.55`	`Wizardling`	`ckknight - sane, who me?`
`21:13.57`	`Wizardling`	`:-D`
`21:14.08`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: I mean don't file shitty tickets`
`21:14.18`	`ckknight`	`no, I won't be writing an import function`
`21:14.31`	`Wizardling`	`but don't worry - provided there are bug reporting links on the addon site pages I will use those`
`21:14.38`	`Wizardling`	`not just make comments`
`21:14.39`	`ckknight`	`@project pitbull4`
`21:14.40`	`Repo`	`ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), vangual (Author), Shefki (Author). Updated: 46 hours ago. Tickets: 42/79`
`21:14.42`	`Wizardling`	`oh`
`21:14.56`	`genetik-`	`nothing stopping anyone else from writing their own importer for it, though`
`21:15.00`	`Wizardling`	`shitty like - This addon, it broke! :-D`
`21:15.22`	`Wizardling`	`(actual comment I just saw)`
`21:15.30`	`Greltok`	`Shefki: True.`
`21:15.33`	`Shefki`	`Shitty like - I want it to do these 20 different things but I'm only filling one ticket.`
`21:16.33`	`ckknight`	`yea, I mark those as invalid`
`21:16.34`	`Wizardling`	`sits on ckknight's lap "I wana Transformer, a lego set, a tickle me elmo, a..."`
`21:17.40`	`genetik-`	`ckknight: pb4 won't touch pb3's config, right? is it safe to have them both installed at the same time?`
`21:17.45`	`Ithato`	`is there functionality in WoW's lua that would let me do something equivalent to an MD5 hash on a table? or a lib that would?`
`21:18.13`	`ckknight`	`genetik-: yea, separate addons`
`21:18.24`	`genetik-`	`cool.. i was worried about that the other night when i was playing around with 4`
`21:18.28`	`Ithato`	`ie a particular function should only be called once, at PLAYER_LOGIN until i change the contents of the table in a subsequent edit`
`21:19.10`	`ckknight`	`Ithato: you could write a lib`
`21:19.16`	`Ithato`	`i want some kind of signature that will say whether or not the contents have changed`
`21:19.18`	`Shefki`	`genetik-: /run EnableAddOn("PitBull4"); DisableAddOn("PitBull") /rl`
`21:19.23`	`ckknight`	`Ithato: why do you want to, jw?`
`21:19.23`	`Shefki`	`genetik-: And vice versa.`
`21:19.32`	`Wizardling`	`ckknight - if I give you my account name could you make every frame glow red and flash up "PONED!" on the target frame if I just killed the player?`
`21:19.35`	`Shefki`	`genetik-: I switch back and forth like that without even logging.`
`21:19.46`	`genetik-`	`Shefki: thanks`
`21:19.56`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: you could write a module for that.`
`21:19.59`	`Wizardling`	`you're open to reasonable feature requests, right?`
`21:20.00`	`ckknight`	`is serious`
`21:20.04`	`Wizardling`	`LOL`
`21:20.05`	`Ithato`	`ckknight: one part of my addon alters another's SVs, but i don't want it to constantly refresh the changes every load`
`21:20.18`	`ckknight`	`Ithato: hmm`
`21:20.24`	`Ithato`	`ckknight: it should write them once, unless i change the source data in my own addon`
`21:20.26`	`ckknight`	`Ithato: imo dirty flag`
`21:20.37`	`ckknight`	`or versioning`
`21:20.50`	`genetik-`	`all in all, i didn't find pitbull4's config to be much less complex than pitbull3's. that could just be unique to how i prefer my frames to be set up, though.`
`21:20.53`	`Shefki`	`Could be sneaky and put a metatable on the other addons SV.`
`21:20.57`	`Shefki`	`And watch for changes that way.`
`21:21.01`	`Wizardling`	`reminds me - I must have a look for a working version of Comix...`
`21:21.07`	`Ithato`	`Shefki: hrm`
`21:21.51`	`Shefki`	`Ithato: If you dig around on the net someplace there's a guide to using a meta table to intercept all the calls to a table.`
`21:22.02`	`Ithato`	`Shefki, ckknight: I'm basically sort of hooking ACP and turning it into a role- or situation-based addon manager`
`21:22.04`	`Shefki`	`Ithato: Fair warning though it'll blow up if they iterate the table.`
`21:22.09`	`ckknight`	`Ithato: blah!`
`21:22.34`	`Shefki`	`Ithato: Umm write your own rather than hooking ACP. What ACP does isn't that complicated.`
`21:22.41`	`Wizardling`	`How long will PB3 be maintained?`
`21:22.50`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: it's not maintained anymore`
`21:22.53`	`Shefki`	`Wizardling: I'd say it's not maintained now.`
`21:22.54`	`Wizardling`	`okay`
`21:22.59`	`Ithato`	`Shefki: it's really me cheating on the end user interface`
`21:23.04`	`Wizardling`	`so might as well stick with PB4`
`21:23.16`	`ckknight`	`PB3 still works`
`21:23.18`	`Wizardling`	`TY`
`21:23.18`	`ckknight`	`it'll continue to work`
`21:23.25`	`ckknight`	`probably even when 3.1 releases`
`21:23.26`	`Ithato`	`Shefki: it'd be easier to tell another user to alter a given profile in ACP then to go in and hack lua code if they want a different addon used`
`21:23.29`	`ckknight`	`and later`
`21:23.38`	`Shefki`	`I supposed if some new version of wow came out that broken something in PB3 before PB4 was even beta I'd probably go fix PB3.`
`21:23.42`	`ckknight`	`but I don't plan on doing any more code changes to it, honestly`
`21:23.48`	`ckknight`	`Shefki: that's true`
`21:23.52`	`Wizardling`	`mmmm...`
`21:23.53`	`ckknight`	`but only if PB4 weren't released`
`21:24.00`	`ckknight`	`which is highly unlikely, tbh`
`21:24.05`	`ckknight`	`since WoW's codebase is pretty stable`
`21:24.11`	`ckknight`	`and PB4 will release soon enough`
`21:24.14`	`ckknight`	`~soon`
`21:24.15`	`purl`	`it has been said that soon is well before heat death, or http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon`
`21:24.21`	`Wizardling`	`nah, I'll see how Pb4 works out`
`21:24.24`	`Shefki`	`Depends on what breaks too.`
`21:24.43`	`Wizardling`	`I hate major addons breaking`
`21:24.59`	`Wizardling`	`and unit frames are the worst to setup again`
`21:25.06`	`Wizardling`	`no offence`
`21:25.12`	`Wizardling`	`cause I do understand :-)`
`21:25.14`	`*** join/#wowace durcyn (n=durcyn@70.114.145.93)`
`21:25.22`	`Wizardling`	`not like you're paid for any of this`
`21:25.28`	`Ithato`	`Wizardling: oUF and the various layouts aren't so bad imo, though don't get me wrong, i love Pitbull too`
`21:25.39`	`NivFreak`	`Wizardling: well actually...`
`21:25.41`	`Wizardling`	`it's really cool that you do what you do for free`
`21:25.43`	`NivFreak`	`:)`
`21:25.50`	`NivFreak`	`in a WAY he is`
`21:25.54`	`ckknight`	`no I'm not, NivFreak`
`21:25.54`	`Wizardling`	`mmm?`
`21:25.59`	`ckknight`	`not until premium comes out`
`21:25.59`	`NivFreak`	`ckknight: I'm teasing :)`
`21:26.10`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: I work for curse.com as-is`
`21:26.11`	`NivFreak`	`for premium to come out, CC needs to not suck`
`21:26.15`	`ckknight`	`I write the code for curseforge.com/wowace.com`
`21:26.17`	`Wizardling`	`ah`
`21:26.23`	`ckknight`	`still, I don't make money off my addons`
`21:26.26`	`Pneumatus`	`alpha CC doesnt suck at all`
`21:26.29`	`Wizardling`	`now that has to be cool job`
`21:26.32`	`ckknight`	`I enjoy it`
`21:26.32`	`NivFreak`	`Pneumatus: no mac version`
`21:26.34`	`ckknight`	`I like web dev`
`21:26.38`	`ckknight`	`I get to make cool stuff`
`21:26.40`	`NivFreak`	`Pneumatus: the last mac version does not work properly`
`21:26.50`	`NivFreak`	`ckknight: you could say you leveraged your addons to secure salary`
`21:27.02`	`Wizardling`	`me - I work for the NZ government`
`21:27.09`	`Wizardling`	`not exactly exciting :-D`
`21:27.35`	`Chompers`	`keeping the english tourists in check i imagine`
`21:27.40`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: my dad's a Kiwi`
`21:27.45`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: technically I have citizenship`
`21:27.52`	`Zhinjio`	`beautiful country. I hope to be able to visit sometime`
`21:27.55`	`ckknight`	`NivFreak: I just kinda showed up one day and they gave me a paycheck`
`21:27.55`	`taleden`	`how's NZ doing on the personal-liberties front lately? I've been sad to see england go bigbrother, and now australia wants to censor everyone's internet connection, haven't heard much about NZ though`
`21:28.14`	`Wizardling`	`NZ has pretty strick privacy laws`
`21:28.18`	`ckknight`	`ah, New Zealand`
`21:28.21`	`ckknight`	`50 sheep to every orc.`
`21:28.41`	`Shefki`	`NZ probably has better rights for sheep than humans.`
`21:28.47`	`Chompers`	`they're not that ugly man`
`21:28.47`	`Wizardling`	`We're not going nuts like Aussieland and trying to introduce filtering at the ISP level`
`21:28.56`	`Zhinjio`	`no shearing except on wednesdays after a hot bath!`
`21:29.02`	`Xinhuan`	`or like china`
`21:29.03`	`Xinhuan`	`:)`
`21:29.10`	`Greltok`	`Who develops the MacOS curse updater?`
`21:29.26`	`Wizardling`	`MacOS curse updater is very buggy still`
`21:29.32`	`Wizardling`	`I had to stop using it`
`21:29.33`	`ckknight`	`Greltok: that would be kolie and a new guy named Layne`
`21:30.06`	`Wizardling`	`and it's the Ausies who like sheep a little too much on a cold night in the outback...`
`21:30.10`	`Wizardling`	`:-D`
`21:30.31`	`Greltok`	`You're not short handed then?`
`21:30.46`	`ckknight`	`Greltok: Kolie and Llamaboy`
`21:30.47`	`ckknight`	`that's who`
`21:31.05`	`Wizardling`	`sadly though - getting back to libery, etc - we're heavily influenced and bullied by the US regarding laws on copyright, fair use, etc.`
`21:31.07`	`ckknight`	`Greltok: shrug`
`21:31.12`	`ckknight`	`Greltok: why, looking for a job?`
`21:31.13`	`ckknight`	`:P`
`21:31.18`	`Wizardling`	`*liberty`
`21:31.33`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: woo, America!`
`21:32.19`	`ckknight`	`last time I was in NZ with family and traveling around, I got the feeling that socio-economic lopping was very conducive in the country`
`21:32.30`	`Greltok`	`ckknight: lol. I dunno - I might be able to help out.`
`21:32.33`	`Wizardling`	`lopping?`
`21:32.51`	`ckknight`	`lopping is when you cut off the tops of flowers that grow taller than everything else`
`21:32.56`	`ckknight`	`to keep everything the same`
`21:32.58`	`ckknight`	`to keep everyone down`
`21:33.34`	`Wizardling`	`oh, tall poppy syndrome it's called here`
`21:33.42`	`Wizardling`	`yes, we do suffer that`
`21:34.19`	`Wizardling`	`but it's not as bad as it once was`
`21:34.51`	`taleden`	`Wizardling: canada seems to have the same trouble lately, re: draconian US-pushed copyright`
`21:35.04`	`Wizardling`	`personally I don't give a shit what people think of me`
`21:35.21`	`Wizardling`	`but some people seem to care about that meaningless crap`
`21:35.46`	`Greltok`	`ckknight: Is there a project tracker?`
`21:36.26`	`Wizardling`	`yup - no offence to you guys in the US - but I'm seriously tired of US big business writing other countries laws (let alone your own laws!)`
`21:36.44`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: but we have artists to protect`
`21:36.48`	`taleden`	`so are we :/`
`21:36.53`	`Kaelten`	`Greltok: for the alpha or?`
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`21:37.37`	`Wizardling`	`hey, I use iTunes to buy virtually all my music, I try to buy my movies there too if they're available`
`21:37.44`	`Wizardling`	`I TRY not to pirate`
`21:37.58`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: if your country wants to trade with America, you'll abide by the Berne convention and pass any laws that make trade conducive`
`21:38.10`	`NivFreak`	`Wizardling: pirate everything you can`
`21:38.19`	`NivFreak`	`Wizardling: it's the only way to maintain balance`
`21:38.33`	`NivFreak`	`we expect you to`
`21:38.34`	`Greltok`	`Kaelten: Presumably the alpha. Whichever one is in active development.`
`21:38.37`	`Wizardling`	`I use bittorrent for most of my TV and movies`
`21:38.40`	`Kaelten`	`that'd be the alpha`
`21:38.46`	`Kaelten`	`the current release is a lame duck`
`21:38.47`	`Wizardling`	`not saying I'm an angel`
`21:39.08`	`Wizardling`	`but hey - give me a way to pay a REASONABLE price for just the content I want and I'll pay`
`21:39.39`	`ckknight`	`don't tell me, tell the producers`
`21:39.40`	`Xinhuan`	`do you pay for Windows?`
`21:39.42`	`Groktar`	`NO!`
`21:39.45`	`ckknight`	`it's their prerogative to charge what they want`
`21:39.53`	`Groktar`	`ricardo montalban died today`
`21:39.56`	`Groktar`	`KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN`
`21:40.18`	`Wizardling`	`But when DRM, fair use (or more accurately curtailing of fair use), and copyright laws make me a criminal just cause I want to use or copy stuff I've already bought - I could give a crap`
`21:40.32`	`Wizardling`	`then I'll pirate just to say Eff you`
`21:40.43`	`Wizardling`	`I paid for WinXP`
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`21:40.52`	`ckknight`	`it's funny that pirated material is worth more than non-pirated for the most part`
`21:40.56`	`ckknight`	`no DRM bullshit or other such`
`21:41.02`	`Wizardling`	`and frankly I wish I'd prated it`
`21:41.04`	`robotusch`	`<3 Danish laws`
`21:41.07`	`Wizardling`	`*pirated it`
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`21:41.27`	`robotusch`	`last time I checked, it's legal to break DRM if it's needed to copy it for personal use`
`21:41.51`	`Wizardling`	`I'm sick of it's bullshit everytime I use it in a new virtual machine or change virtual hardware.`
`21:42.05`	`AckisWork`	`http://www.makeoutclub.com/ackis <-- WTF?!?! apparently I'm hot`
`21:42.14`	`Wizardling`	`(I don't use Winblows except under virtualisation nowadays - so much better)`
`21:42.23`	`ckknight`	`AckisWork: a/s/l?`
`21:42.29`	`ckknight`	`AckisWork: also, I added localization namespaces`
`21:42.50`	`AckisWork`	`ckknight: hawt`
`21:42.55`	`AckisWork`	`apparently I'm 17/f/??`
`21:43.04`	`ckknight`	`I'd tap that`
`21:43.29`	`AckisWork`	`<-- googled his name`
`21:43.57`	`Xinhuan`	`get back to work ackis :)`
`21:44.27`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: :( yes mom`
`21:45.38`	`robotusch`	`AckisWork, I have an axe to grind with you :<`
`21:46.02`	`robotusch`	`Tiffany Cartier is not located in IF, she's in Dalaran :D`
`21:48.08`	`Wizardling`	`Not sure I get why Blizzard includes 10 day pass keys with game time cards`
`21:48.31`	`Wizardling`	`can't you get unlimited trial keys online anyway?`
`21:48.36`	`ckknight`	`Wizardling: to give to your friend`
`21:50.14`	`Fisker-`	`lets get erotic`
`21:50.35`	`ckknight`	`k.`
`21:51.04`	`Wizardling`	`Wish I'd thought to offer myself as a friend returning from my six month break`
`21:51.29`	`Greltok`	`robotusch: I believe the DMCA forbids it, even though it's fair use (disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer)`
`21:51.30`	`Wizardling`	`someone here or one of the WoW groups I frequent could have taken advantage`
`21:51.36`	`Wizardling`	`oh well`
`21:52.49`	`AckisWork`	`robotusch: that was fixed a while ago`
`21:55.11`	`*** join/#wowace Nizomi (n=kvirc@pD9E44328.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:55.13`	`Nizomi`	`Hi`
`21:55.32`	`AckisWork`	`hi`
`21:57.18`	`Nizomi`	`hm no += operator for lua? :/`
`21:57.22`	`ckknight`	`no`
`21:57.24`	`ckknight`	`i = i + 1`
`21:57.27`	`ckknight`	`tip, though`
`21:57.29`	`ckknight`	`don't add`
`21:57.35`	`ckknight`	`just imagine.`
`21:58.00`	`ckknight`	`that's how I do it`
`21:58.12`	`AckisWork`	`I prefer just believing`
`21:58.21`	`ckknight`	`overall, it doesn't happen as often as in C-style languages`
`21:58.32`	`ckknight`	`since we don't have C-style for loops`
`21:58.40`	`ckknight`	`and the like`
`21:59.52`	`Nizomi`	`uh`
`21:59.52`	`Nizomi`	`what`
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`22:02.10`	`ckknight`	`Nizomi: we just have i = i + j`
`22:02.13`	`ckknight`	`not i += j`
`22:02.15`	`onaforeignshore`	`is the repository working? just did some commits and a tag and nothing showing?`
`22:02.16`	`Nizomi`	`i know`
`22:02.18`	`Nizomi`	`i understood that`
`22:02.23`	`Nizomi`	`but not the rest of what you said xD`
`22:02.31`	`Fisker-`	`tacklehuggles ckknight`
`22:03.12`	`ckknight`	`o noes`
`22:03.20`	`ckknight`	`onaforeignshore: maybe repo broke`
`22:03.36`	`AckisWork`	`@ping`
`22:03.36`	`Repo`	`pong`
`22:04.05`	`Wizardling`	`I think I'm going to have to be one of those letter writing cranks`
`22:04.06`	`*** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216)`
`22:04.36`	`Repo`	`10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r22 ItemDB.lua: EggTimer:`
`22:04.40`	`Repo`	`- add Disgusting Jar from Frenzyheart Tribe`
`22:04.44`	`Repo`	`10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme 04v0.2.1 * r23 : EggTimer:`
`22:04.44`	`Wizardling`	`I'm appalled at the size of the box full o' air I got my tiny game time card in (first time I've bought time this way)`
`22:04.48`	`Repo`	`- add Disgusting Jar from Frenzyheart Tribe`
`22:04.52`	`Repo`	`10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r23 / (8 files in 1 directory): MacroBank:`
`22:04.53`	`Wizardling`	`such a waste`
`22:04.56`	`Repo`	`- Added slash commands /macrobank and /mb for loading of entire categories of macros.`
`22:04.58`	`*** join/#wowace Odlaw (n=ozzy@c-98-245-39-78.hsd1.co.comcast.net)`
`22:05.00`	`Repo`	`- Load Blizzard_MacroUI if it's not loaded (needed for loading categories before opening /macro window)`
`22:05.05`	`AckisWork`	`repo, I love you`
`22:05.21`	`*** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@69.57.184.216)`
`22:05.25`	`Odlaw`	`fail.`
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`22:08.50`	`Repo`	`10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r6 / (3 files in 1 directory): Refactored comparator to HazLootList.lua`
`22:08.53`	`Repo`	`Added T7.25 Tier tokens to the loot list`
`22:08.56`	`Repo`	`Reworked how the loot list works so it parses lazily`
`22:08.59`	`Repo`	`* This is an untested revision *`
`22:10.34`	`NivFreak`	`t7.25?`
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`22:11.33`	`Megalon`	`valorous`
`22:11.45`	`Megalon`	`t7 from 25mans`
`22:11.47`	`NivFreak`	`most people would say t7.5 :P`
`22:11.57`	`Megalon`	`nope, in german regions`
`22:12.06`	`Megalon`	`its t7.10 and t7.25`
`22:12.14`	`Megalon`	`almost everywhere i know :>`
`22:12.18`	`NivFreak`	`germans are crazy`
`22:12.29`	`Megalon`	`t7.5 is ambigous`
`22:13.05`	`NivFreak`	`the only place I would consider it misleading is when also refering to ilvl 226 gear`
`22:13.31`	`NeoTron`	`I always thought t7.10 and 7.25 is better`
`22:13.37`	`Megalon`	`but, what is .5`
`22:13.43`	`Megalon`	`is that between t7 and t8? :x`
`22:13.47`	`Xinhuan`	`the general US public uses T7 (which is short for T7.0) and T7.5`
`22:13.49`	`AckisWork`	`how about Teasyasfuck`
`22:13.51`	`Megalon`	`it has no relation to 10/25 mans`
`22:13.59`	`Xinhuan`	`the .5 suffix came from the introduction of the AQ40 set`
`22:14.06`	`NivFreak`	`correct`
`22:14.08`	`Xinhuan`	`because it was between T2 and T3`
`22:14.09`	`NeoTron`	`except it's false here`
`22:14.16`	`NeoTron`	`t7.5 is a full tier higher than t7`
`22:14.24`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: dungeon set 2 was tier 0.5 as well`
`22:14.29`	`NeoTron`	`and wasn't some half-tier upgrade like the aq40 set`
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`22:14.35`	`NivFreak`	`d2 was 1.5`
`22:14.36`	`Xinhuan`	`yeah, its named T0.5 because its between T0 and T1`
`22:14.42`	`AckisWork`	`aye`
`22:14.45`	`Xinhuan`	`dungeon set is named T0`
`22:14.50`	`Xinhuan`	`T1 - is from MC`
`22:14.53`	`NivFreak`	`er, right`
`22:14.56`	`NeoTron`	`I wonder what level gear ulduar will have`
`22:15.04`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: 239?`
`22:15.06`	`Megalon`	`226-239 i think`
`22:15.10`	`NeoTron`	`if it'll be 226 and 239 or 239 and 252 or whatever`
`22:15.13`	`Xinhuan`	`as it is, the naxx25 set gear will be between T7 and T8, so its appropriately named T7.5`
`22:15.22`	`Xinhuan`	`is* rather`
`22:15.42`	`NeoTron`	`Xinhuan: if you use that method, t8 = t7.5`
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`22:15.45`	`NivFreak`	`I imagine it'll be 213/226 for 10man, and 226/239 for 25`
`22:15.50`	`NeoTron`	`so we keep calling 10 man t8 gear for t7.5? :P`
`22:15.58`	`Xinhuan`	`no ;p`
`22:16.10`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: do you have full t0.5?`
`22:16.12`	`NeoTron`	`I always do tier <-> ilevel`
`22:16.15`	`Xinhuan`	`no ackis`
`22:16.16`	`NivFreak`	`and of course the theory is t8 will be better itemized as well (thank god)`
`22:16.23`	`Xinhuan`	`T1/2/3 is defined by sets that have 8 pieces`
`22:16.37`	`Xinhuan`	`and came with patches that introduced new dungeons`
`22:16.44`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: well, T6 has 8 as well, and T3 has 9 tbh :P`
`22:16.50`	`NivFreak`	`yea, the ring`
`22:16.51`	`NivFreak`	`lol`
`22:16.51`	`Xinhuan`	`T4/5/6 broke away from the 8-piece model`
`22:16.55`	`Xinhuan`	`and went back to 5-piece`
`22:17.03`	`AckisWork`	`screws up Xinhuan's logic`
`22:17.07`	`Xinhuan`	`but T6 added 3pieces in a 4th expansion!`
`22:17.10`	`Dhraga`	`I'm having a bit of a snag with a sql dkp export script for our guild, is it possible in the script to alter a result value if it's Death Knight in the sql table to be written as Deathknight in the exported file ?`
`22:17.15`	`NivFreak`	`I like the 8pc w/ 4pc bonus modelk`
`22:17.19`	`Xinhuan`	`4th major patch i mean`
`22:17.46`	`Xinhuan`	`the new 10/25 parallel model is new in wrath`
`22:18.11`	`NivFreak`	`I really enjoy the new model`
`22:18.12`	`Xinhuan`	`in general, we call them T7/8/9 for each dungeon`
`22:18.15`	`AckisWork`	`s/new 1025 parallel model/casual/`
`22:18.15`	`NeoTron`	`which is why t7.10 and t7.25 makes sense rather than using an old model that doesn't make sense`
`22:18.29`	`Xinhuan`	`.0 and .5 is faster to type :)`
`22:18.33`	`Xinhuan`	`than .10 and .25`
`22:18.37`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: but sadly no one cares what makes sense`
`22:18.41`	`NivFreak`	`just what people use`
`22:18.54`	`NeoTron`	`and u is faster than you but that doesn't mean that I use u instead of you`
`22:18.57`	`genetik-`	`the more people who use things that make sense...`
`22:19.01`	`NivFreak`	`and also, saying 7.10 and 7.25 sucks ;)`
`22:19.32`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: I pick my battles`
`22:19.43`	`EthanCentaurai`	`AckisWork: getting this error with ARL beta 1372 "AckisRecipeList-Beta 13 1372\\Locals\\ARLLocals-koKR.lua:32: unexpected symbol near '='" in every locale file except enUS`
`22:20.04`	`NeoTron`	`my battle today was arguing whether or not to say that sartharion does 75k breaths`
`22:20.06`	`AckisWork`	`EthanCentaurai: svn or package?`
`22:20.10`	`EthanCentaurai`	`package`
`22:20.15`	`AckisWork`	`EthanCentaurai: ty will look`
`22:20.19`	`EthanCentaurai`	`something about L["40 Tickets - Schematic: Steam Tonk Controller"] makes it moan`
`22:20.39`	`NivFreak`	`I wonder if we'll get epic gems in t8 or t9`
`22:20.41`	`NeoTron`	`my opponent claimed no because you will always use some <mitigation> and my argument of course was that I need to account for 75k to be able to calculate the mitigation needed`
`22:20.45`	`AckisWork`	`@project arl`
`22:20.47`	`Repo`	`AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/arl/. Ackis Recipe List. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Jim-Bim (Author), Zhinjio (Author), Elkano (Tester), Primaxina (Translator), Dessa (Translator), Swix (Translator), ananhaid (Translator), andy52005 (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator). Updated: 32 minutes ago. Tickets: 7/315`
`22:21.17`	`Xinhuan`	`hahaha`
`22:21.39`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: I think it's important to understand the base value you're working with`
`22:21.42`	`EthanCentaurai`	`it worked fine in 1371, which is odd as the locale files weren't changed in 1372`
`22:21.52`	`NeoTron`	`worse yet, he claimed that using the fact that twilight torment doesn't immediately reappear after dealing damage was cheating`
`22:21.53`	`NivFreak`	`since all of your mitigation will have varying levels of effectivness`
`22:22.08`	`NivFreak`	`it's not cheating, and it's also highly risky`
`22:22.44`	`NivFreak`	`do any of the boss mods warn when the MT gets TT?`
`22:22.55`	`AckisWork`	`EthanCentaurai: ckk broke some shit i think`
`22:23.03`	`AckisWork`	`(which is fixed)`
`22:23.06`	`ckknight`	`o noes`
`22:23.16`	`ckknight`	`EthanCentaurai: recommit, it'll work`
`22:23.19`	`ckknight`	`I made a whoopsie-doodle`
`22:23.21`	`Xinhuan`	`no boss mod should need to, its the tank's resposibility isn't it?`
`22:23.23`	`NeoTron`	`NivFreak: it's nothing to depend on but something to aim for`
`22:23.37`	`EthanCentaurai`	`I can't commit, Git is still fucked`
`22:23.41`	`steev`	`ouch`
`22:23.44`	`EthanCentaurai`	`it's Ackis' bug anyway :P`
`22:23.52`	`steev`	`just came across a screenshot of my rogue when he was 60`
`22:23.54`	`NeoTron`	`also ironically said it doesn't matter if you have 28k or 32k health`
`22:23.55`	`steev`	`i was so nub`
`22:23.58`	`steev`	`http://dev.gentoo.org/~steev/files/screenshots/working-addons.png`
`22:24.03`	`NeoTron`	`which of course is entirely false since he doesn't just breathe on you`
`22:24.21`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: I would say that it matters more if you have < or > 36k`
`22:24.26`	`Repo`	`10arl: 03Ackis * r1373 Locals/testenUS.lua:`
`22:24.26`	`NivFreak`	`;)`
`22:24.29`	`Repo`	`This one time at band camp, ckknight broke the localization application.`
`22:24.34`	`AckisWork`	`EthanCentaurai: try 1373`
`22:24.49`	`Xinhuan`	`hahaha`
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`22:25.04`	`steev`	`what's TT?`
`22:25.06`	`NeoTron`	`NivFreak: but naturally more health isn't a drawback`
`22:25.08`	`Xinhuan`	`ok what's a band camp?`
`22:25.11`	`Xinhuan`	`:)`
`22:25.19`	`EthanCentaurai`	`waits for the zip to be generated`
`22:25.27`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: it's in fact ideal`
`22:25.28`	`NivFreak`	`:)`
`22:25.40`	`Xinhuan`	`L[":)"] = "^_^"`
`22:25.41`	`NivFreak`	`I'm trying to get my feral geared well enough to MT him before sunday`
`22:25.48`	`NivFreak`	`50K buffed or gtfo`
`22:25.59`	`NivFreak`	`Xinhuan: haha`
`22:26.05`	`Xinhuan`	`guess the language!`
`22:26.07`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: american pie reference`
`22:26.39`	`NivFreak`	`Xinhuan: chinese :P`
`22:26.43`	`NivFreak`	`or japanese`
`22:26.46`	`NivFreak`	`or 14yr old boy`
`22:26.54`	`Xinhuan`	`Q(^_^)Q`
`22:27.01`	`NeoTron`	`I'm not sure how much buffed I'll have but I think I'll increase my buffed + debuffed health with like 3k or something`
`22:27.14`	`NeoTron`	`4 upgrades, 6% helath from talens`
`22:27.17`	`Xinhuan`	`those Qs look like ears... or they could look like fisted hands hehe`
`22:27.24`	`EthanCentaurai`	`<('.' <) <( '.' )> (> '.')>`
`22:27.38`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: oddly I'm just slightly lower than my normal unbuffed health all said and done :)`
`22:27.58`	`NeoTron`	`that seems to be about where it ends up yeah`
`22:28.13`	`NeoTron`	`noticed that on s10.3d`
`22:28.17`	`NivFreak`	`yea`
`22:28.19`	`NivFreak`	`same`
`22:28.26`	`NivFreak`	`but I may have been missing a buff`
`22:28.36`	`NeoTron`	`I wish i was a JC already`
`22:28.37`	`NivFreak`	`I think my plans for my feral put him at 41kish unbuffed`
`22:28.40`	`NivFreak`	`and 37k after`
`22:28.46`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: blacksmithing+JC == win`
`22:28.51`	`NeoTron`	`I could get a lot of health from JC`
`22:28.57`	`NivFreak`	`an INSANE amount`
`22:29.01`	`NivFreak`	`I gained like 1600 health`
`22:29.07`	`NeoTron`	`I'm alchemy/inscription now and inscription sucks for tanking (more dodge is not good)`
`22:29.08`	`Xinhuan`	`blacksmithing doesn't give additional advantage when combined with JC`
`22:29.18`	`NivFreak`	`between the 3 JC gems, the trinket, and not needing anything but stam gems for meta`
`22:29.18`	`Xinhuan`	`you can only use 3 dragon's eyes either way`
`22:29.37`	`NivFreak`	`Xinhuan: blacksmithing is great on it's own`
`22:29.40`	`NeoTron`	`if I went JC I'd gain at least 63 more stamina`
`22:29.42`	`NivFreak`	`and it's a good balance with JC`
`22:29.43`	`Xinhuan`	`well yes`
`22:29.46`	`NeoTron`	`w/o the trinket`
`22:29.50`	`NivFreak`	`here's why xinhuan`
`22:29.55`	`NivFreak`	`as better gear comes out, JCing gets weaker`
`22:29.59`	`EthanCentaurai`	`Ackis: same error with 1373`
`22:30.04`	`NivFreak`	`specifically epic gems`
`22:30.09`	`NivFreak`	`and epic gems make BS stronger`
`22:30.18`	`NivFreak`	`BS will provide me 62 stamina when epic gems are released`
`22:30.21`	`Xinhuan`	`that's based on the assumption that they won't introduce a higher tier of JC-only gems`
`22:30.26`	`NivFreak`	`and the benefit of JConly gems goes way down`
`22:30.28`	`Xinhuan`	`but they probably will`
`22:30.33`	`NivFreak`	`they didn't in TBC`
`22:30.45`	`NeoTron`	`NivFreak: one thing though - JC still let's you 1) keep with stam gems despite metagem, 2) get more gem set bonuses`
`22:30.46`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm sure they will give out a higher tier of say inscription shoulder enchants too, etc`
`22:30.53`	`NivFreak`	`I doubt it xinhuan`
`22:31.05`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: we only require one off color gem for meta`
`22:31.08`	`Xinhuan`	`well even so, JC is still ok`
`22:31.09`	`NivFreak`	`well`
`22:31.14`	`NivFreak`	`depending on your choice`
`22:31.18`	`Xinhuan`	`because JC alreadyhas the advantage you don't have to worry about meta requirements`
`22:31.22`	`NeoTron`	`NivFreak: which is 12 stamina`
`22:31.24`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: I'm not saying it's worthless, just less valuable`
`22:31.28`	`Xinhuan`	`so its already "beyond usual benefits"`
`22:31.40`	`NeoTron`	`but I also have items with yellow/red socket with 9 stam socket bonus for example`
`22:31.42`	`NivFreak`	`I'm not saying JC will suck`
`22:31.44`	`NeoTron`	`or red with 6 stam`
`22:31.46`	`NivFreak`	`I said it's a good counter balance`
`22:31.54`	`Xinhuan`	`are you a DK`
`22:31.56`	`NivFreak`	`JC is clearly THE superior profession at the moment`
`22:32.07`	`NivFreak`	`and I think that title will go to blacksmithing over time`
`22:32.16`	`NeoTron`	`BS is just two more slots isn't it?`
`22:32.19`	`NivFreak`	`yep`
`22:32.50`	`NeoTron`	`so 52 stamina with epic gems?`
`22:33.34`	`Nizomi`	`bah`
`22:33.35`	`NivFreak`	`60`
`22:33.40`	`steev`	`BS won't go anywhere`
`22:33.41`	`NivFreak`	`epic gems are 30stam`
`22:33.51`	`Nizomi`	`i hate how wow has no sell-lock function`
`22:34.07`	`NivFreak`	`!i Solid Majestic Zircon`
`22:34.12`	`AckisWork`	`http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story/N-Ky-Teacher-Charged-With-Sexual-Abuse/sMKRgKBLTUqFMJnh9Sh1AA.cspx why didn't I have a teacher like that growing up? :(`
`22:34.16`	`NivFreak`	`grr`
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`22:34.37`	`Nizomi`	`i sold my acherus head thingy Q_Q`
`22:35.25`	`NeoTron`	`still not sure BS will be better if you add in all the factors but it's obviously good`
`22:35.29`	`Xinhuan`	`do you think epic gems will come out with ulduar though? or icecrown`
`22:35.36`	`NivFreak`	`Xinhuan: I'm guessing icecrown`
`22:35.42`	`NivFreak`	`well`
`22:35.46`	`NivFreak`	`not icecrown probably 3.2`
`22:35.52`	`NivFreak`	`the unannounced raid`
`22:35.58`	`NeoTron`	`do we think ulduar or icecrown are the only large upcoming raids?`
`22:36.02`	`NeoTron`	`because that'd be rather pathetic :P`
`22:36.05`	`NivFreak`	`nope`
`22:36.07`	`Megalon`	`gogo uldum!`
`22:36.07`	`Xinhuan`	`there's a possibility of Uldum`
`22:36.10`	`NivFreak`	`there's another in between`
`22:36.12`	`Xinhuan`	`or grim batol`
`22:36.13`	`NivFreak`	`they have confirmed it`
`22:36.17`	`NivFreak`	`just not what it is`
`22:36.23`	`NeoTron`	`azjol'nerub`
`22:36.25`	`Megalon`	`cot5!`
`22:36.30`	`NivFreak`	`of course I think it was kaplan that confirmed it at the time`
`22:36.35`	`Xinhuan`	`also there is a lot of room for expansion in crystalsong forest`
`22:36.44`	`Xinhuan`	`which is a wholely unused zone`
`22:36.48`	`NeoTron`	`what instance could there possibly be in there?`
`22:36.48`	`NivFreak`	`NeoTron: azjol'nerub would be the one that makes sense to me`
`22:36.50`	`Xinhuan`	`(if wholely is a word)`
`22:36.54`	`ckknight`	`AckisWork: she's attractive, too`
`22:37.07`	`NivFreak`	`Yogg-Saron time`
`22:37.11`	`Xinhuan`	`you see, arthas could choose to start attacking dalaran by invading crystalsong forest`
`22:37.16`	`Xinhuan`	`and turn it into a new quest hub`
`22:37.23`	`Xinhuan`	`with dungeons!`
`22:37.39`	`NivFreak`	`but yea, they said there will be 3 more major raid zones`
`22:37.43`	`NivFreak`	`3.1 / 3.2 / 3.3`
`22:37.50`	`NivFreak`	`icecrown being 3.3`
`22:37.52`	`Groktar`	`uldum makes the most sense to me`
`22:38.11`	`Xinhuan`	`not all patches are equal in size :)`
`22:38.14`	`NivFreak`	`Groktar: I don't think they want to wrap the titans stuff up yet`
`22:38.16`	`Xinhuan`	`2.3 came with Zulaman`
`22:38.23`	`NivFreak`	`Xinhuan: I'm aware`
`22:38.24`	`Xinhuan`	`which wasn't on the scale of BT/Hyjal or Sunwell`
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`22:38.32`	`NivFreak`	`and 2.2 was VOICECHAT YEA!`
`22:38.33`	`Groktar`	`molten core 2.0`
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`22:38.56`	`NivFreak`	`but with TBC there wasn't much planned in terms of raid content patches`
`22:39.01`	`Groktar`	`golemagg with 30 million hp GO!`
`22:39.02`	`NivFreak`	`they didn't finish BT by release, so it followed`
`22:39.08`	`NivFreak`	`and sunwell was an afterthought`
`22:39.17`	`NivFreak`	`as I imagine ZA was`
`22:39.31`	`Groktar`	`sunwell made a lot of sense for tbc tho`
`22:39.33`	`NivFreak`	`ZA seemed to be more of just vetting a 10man raid model`
`22:39.34`	`AckisWork`	`ckknight: http://www.windsorstar.com/Leamington+loses+Nigerian+scam/1173799/story.html wtf lol how do people fall for that shit?`
`22:39.36`	`steev`	`does anyone even use the in game voicechat?`
`22:39.44`	`NivFreak`	`Groktar: they do a good job of making it fit`
`22:40.05`	`NivFreak`	`and the entire event was a nice way to test the phasing concept`
`22:40.17`	`ulic`	`steev: I make people enable it if they refuse to install vent, and they don't plan on talking anyway.`
`22:40.29`	`NivFreak`	`why?`
`22:40.35`	`Groktar`	`i guess they did say they wanted to do yearly expansions at one point tho`
`22:40.41`	`ulic`	`if they can't hear me yell at them then I don't want them in my raid :)`
`22:40.51`	`NivFreak`	`Groktar: they can't even get two content patches out in a year`
`22:40.52`	`NivFreak`	`haha`
`22:40.57`	`Groktar`	`yeah`
`22:41.13`	`Groktar`	`but i'm sure they said it`
`22:41.46`	`NivFreak`	`yes, they did`
`22:41.50`	`NivFreak`	`at TBC launch`
`22:42.42`	`Nizomi`	`any chance for finding a gm who will give me an item back that i accidentally sold?`
`22:42.55`	`NivFreak`	`yes`
`22:42.58`	`NivFreak`	`but it takes days`
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`22:43.16`	`NivFreak`	`and it uses an account restore which they claim you have a limited number of`
`22:43.16`	`Xinhuan`	`just petition`
`22:43.28`	`NivFreak`	`yet I've never heard of anyone refused it`
`22:43.42`	`Xinhuan`	`they can refuse it if they feel you are abusing your "restoration rights"`
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`22:43.53`	`NivFreak`	`they can refuse it any way they want ;)`
`22:45.49`	`Nizomi`	`i need a sell and destroy lock :/`
`22:46.25`	`Xinhuan`	`my last GM chat was about me wanting them to restore 5 items`
`22:46.49`	`Xinhuan`	`i wanted them to undelete my 4 rank 11 mounts, and my yellow brewfest stein, which i deleted a year ago`
`22:47.30`	`Hirsute`	`What'd they tell you?`
`22:47.33`	`Xinhuan`	`for achievement purposes`
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`22:48.15`	`Repo`	`10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r35 loc/Locals-enUS.lua: fix another misspelled Sartharion`
`22:48.22`	`Xinhuan`	`they told me that`
`22:48.45`	`Xinhuan`	`they were unable to verify that i once owned 4 pvp rank 11 mounts`
`22:48.52`	`Xinhuan`	`as they were deleted too long ago and they have no logs`
`22:48.59`	`Xinhuan`	`even though i pointed out that i am a rank 14`
`22:49.32`	`Xinhuan`	`on the other hand, my quest records say i did complete the 2007 brewfest quest, so they restored me the 2007 stein`
`22:49.34`	`ckknight`	`say is a hilarious command for Mac OS X`
`22:49.52`	`Xinhuan`	`so i just have to suck it up and refarm 120 tokens from each BG`
`22:49.55`	`Xinhuan`	`and rebuy the mounts`
`22:50.12`	`thul`	`i hate pugs`
`22:50.12`	`thul`	`so`
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`22:50.13`	`thul`	`much`
`22:50.22`	`ckknight`	`thul: hug`
`22:50.30`	`thul`	`thanks! :-)`
`22:50.32`	`thul`	`needed it :-P`
`22:50.45`	`Xinhuan`	`i'm trying to play as many SOta games as i can now ;p`
`22:50.50`	`Xinhuan`	`alliance wins every 7 minutes`
`22:51.06`	`Xinhuan`	`3 min attack, 3 min defense, and 1 min interval in between :)`
`22:51.21`	`Hirsute`	`ckknight: What is the say command in OS X?`
`22:51.23`	`Xinhuan`	`i regret not doing my AV 100 wins back when alliance always won`
`22:51.30`	`ckknight`	`it says stuff out-loud`
`22:51.33`	`ckknight`	`really well, too`
`22:51.38`	`ckknight`	`almost ... human`
`22:52.59`	`Hirsute`	`ckknight: I read about the say command in the message text of todays xkcd, but wasn't sure if that's what it was.`
`22:53.03`	`Hirsute`	`Pretty cool`
`22:53.12`	`thul`	`Hirsute: open a terminal, write "say thul is sexy"`
`22:53.14`	`thul`	`voila.`
`22:53.22`	`Nizomi`	`lol`
`22:53.33`	`Hirsute`	`thul: >Access Denied`
`22:53.48`	`Nizomi`	`well gn8`
`22:53.52`	`pentium166`	`i think i need to get ssh access to my roommate's imac`
`22:54.00`	`Hirsute`	`Heh`
`22:54.12`	`Hirsute`	`I need to get my parents to set me up access on their macs.`
`22:54.37`	`ckknight`	`thul: worked`
`22:55.06`	`thul`	`it should work :-D`
`22:55.35`	`Megalon`	`and as thul stated, you can also lie with say`
`22:55.54`	`thul`	`Megalon:P`
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`23:06.58`	`Axodious`	`other than wardrobe and closetgnome are there any other ace mods like them?`
`23:07.20`	`Xinhuan`	`itemrack`
`23:07.23`	`Xinhuan`	`outfitter`
`23:07.31`	`Axodious`	`itemrack is ace now? ;o`
`23:07.37`	`Xinhuan`	`no?`
`23:07.49`	`Axodious`	`that's what i was asking lol`
`23:07.54`	`Xinhuan`	`doesn't mean they are bad addons`
`23:08.02`	`Axodious`	`true`
`23:08.37`	`Axodious`	`i just find it easier to troubleshoot problems with addons if they are ace`
`23:08.43`	`Xinhuan`	`how so`
`23:08.57`	`sacarasc`	`blame ace`
`23:08.58`	`sacarasc`	`done`
`23:09.21`	`AckisWork`	`Xinhuan: anymods that aren't ace are bad, didn't you know that?`
`23:09.30`	`Dashkal`	`I couldn't tell you what libraries my addons are using... Not having any problems either.`
`23:09.51`	`Dashkal`	`As a user, I don't see why I should care...`
`23:10.23`	`AckisWork`	`really hates that "as a user' stuff`
`23:10.35`	`AckisWork`	`I'm a user yet I spend hours tweaking my PC to be faster`
`23:10.38`	`Torhal`	`AckisWork: Are you using again?`
`23:10.51`	`AckisWork`	`Torhal: every day, it's how I put up with the hooligans on irc`
`23:10.54`	`Axodious`	`using wowace addons if i have problems generally i can muddle my way through or around them with/without help, most of the non-ace mods i've used if it`
`23:11.04`	`Axodious`	`'s borked it's borked until the author fixes it`
`23:11.05`	`Dashkal`	`AckisWork: I don't see why I should care what libraries an addon uses. If an addon slows my system, I really don't give a damn which lib did it, the addon goes`
`23:11.08`	`NeoTron`	`a better question about itemrack is - does it still suck intense cpu resources?`
`23:11.48`	`AckisWork`	`Dashkal: no I see what you mean, it's just the whole line "users shouldn't care" is a bit cliche to me now`
`23:12.02`	`Xinhuan`	`Axodious, that's because most of the ace errors you get are due to library embedding issues`
`23:12.02`	`NeoTron`	`speaking of closetgnome - it's impossible to have a "nude" outfit`
`23:12.14`	`Xinhuan`	`which points to bad authors`
`23:12.15`	`pastamancer`	`I think that's for the best, really`
`23:12.29`	`pastamancer`	`there's no gnome like a nude gnome`
`23:12.35`	`NeoTron`	`Xinhuan: in a way though use of standard libs makes it easier to grasp the parts of the addon that's not standard`
`23:12.42`	`AckisWork`	`pastamancer: ahh nightmares`
`23:12.45`	`NeoTron`	`but it's a small bonus`
`23:13.16`	`AckisWork`	`Dashkal: although I think a lot of people confuse all the libraries that ace mods "tend" to use with them being ace mods`
`23:13.22`	`Hirsute`	`Reading this chat without reading who said what was funny: "speaking of closetgnome - it's impossible to have a 'nude' outfit" "which points to bad authors"`
`23:13.58`	`Torhal`	`Those damn authors wrote in nude gnomes again! I HATE these books!`
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`23:21.39`	`Hirsute`	`... wow. So that's how you kill a conversation.`
`23:22.10`	`Dashkal`	`Naked gnomes will do that`
`23:23.20`	`Hirsute`	`I saw a whole army of them once jumping off the aldor's tier in Shatt trying to get the going down achievement.`
`23:23.31`	`Hirsute`	`After I finished laughing, I told them it was the Scryer's tier they wanted.`
`23:24.55`	`Hirsute`	`Well, okay, only about 5 of them. Not an army. Funny nonetheless.`
`23:25.44`	`thul`	`when i see Hirsute's nick i just think "bad porn"`
`23:25.53`	`Hirsute`	`Heh.`
`23:26.14`	`Hirsute`	`Funny, my toon name Hirsute is a hairy little gnome. Have fun with that image.`
`23:26.38`	`Repo`	`10feignresistmessage: 03Allara * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): - TOC bump`
`23:26.54`	`Repo`	`10feignresistmessage: 03Allara 04r4-release * r5 : Tagging as r4-release`
`23:27.08`	`Arrowmaster`	`http://www.ipv6experiment.com/ "We're taking over 100 gigabytes of the most popular "adult entertainment" videos from one of the largest subscription websites on the internet, and giving away access to anyone who can connect to it via IPv6"`
`23:27.34`	`NeoTron`	`that's actually up there now? I thought it was just a plan to do it`
`23:28.32`	`Arrowmaster`	`ah apparently not`
`23:28.42`	`Arrowmaster`	`somebody linked it to me from elsewhere`
`23:29.24`	`CIA-34`	`panda: 03Tekkub 07master * r4e86054 10/ Panda.lua : Are you..... Local? - http://tinyurl.com/7mt6dr`
`23:29.57`	`Axodious`	`it's been dead since last may`
`23:30.18`	`Arrowmaster`	`yeah what a shame`
`23:31.04`	`Arrowmaster`	`oh well, i just woke up and now im going to go back to watching anime like i was before i went to bed`
`23:35.49`	`thul`	`moha`
`23:35.52`	`thul`	`steev: congratulate me! :-P`
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`23:39.44`	`Synthetic`	`Celestial Focus (Balance) no longer includes Starfall.`
`23:39.46`	`Synthetic`	`^^`
`23:46.44`	`thul`	`I'm crazy far above the hit-cap`
`23:46.46`	`thul`	`that is for sure.`
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`23:47.57`	`Jygga`	`is the relic for hodir rep stuff already on ptr?`
`23:49.02`	`Repo`	`10aurahud: 03taleden * r2 / (10 files in 3 directories): alpha 0.1`
`23:49.09`	`Repo`	`New knowledge base page: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/ by ckknight`
`23:49.29`	`ckknight`	`someone read that`
`23:49.31`	`ckknight`	`tell me if it makes sense`
`23:49.51`	`gix`	`tl;dr!`
`23:50.08`	`Repo`	`10little-wigs: 03ulic * r519 / (4 files in 3 directories): - Lavanthor: Removed log requests`
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`23:50.11`	`Repo`	`- Meathook & Salramm the Fleshcrafter: added substance`
`23:50.15`	`Repo`	`- Prophet Tharon'ja: Added not insertion of health percent if running Transcriptor to help measure health transitions.`
`23:52.17`	`ckknight`	`gix: you suck`
`23:52.20`	`thul`	`finally 3k+ ap unbuffed :-D`
`23:52.37`	`ckknight`	`thul: read my article or perish`
`23:53.22`	`Industrial`	`url?`
`23:53.47`	`thul`	`ckknight: url?`
`23:53.54`	`ckknight`	`http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/`
`23:56.08`	`thul`	`looks ok so far.`
`23:56.10`	`Repo`	`10grid: 03StingerSoft * r1132 GridLocale-ruRU.lua: ruRU update`
`23:56.58`	`ckknight`	`maybe I should make a "Why should I care about localization?" section`
`23:57.13`	`ckknight`	`the answer to which is "Foreigners with funny accents will like you more"`
`23:57.46`	`Industrial`	`so we dont care \o/`
`23:58.24`	`Bruners`	`ckknight: if someone starts a conversation with you on curse, will you get a mail about it ?`
`23:58.30`	`ckknight`	`yes, Bruners`
`23:58.33`	`ckknight`	`though I tend not to respond`
`23:58.44`	`ckknight`	`:P`
`23:59.12`	`Bruners`	`its the only way to contact people thats not on irc :P`
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