| 00:00.14 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:00.26 | ckknight | well, if someone contacts me, they should just hop on IRC instead :P |
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| 00:02.25 | Repo | 10aurahud: 03taleden * r3 / (2 files in 2 directories): svn properties |
| 00:04.11 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/ by ckknight |
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| 00:07.30 | Xinhuan | so ckknight, the knowledge bases articles can benefit from screenshots sometimes |
| 00:07.38 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:07.43 | Xinhuan | how does one add screenshots to them without requiring linking them offsite |
| 00:07.44 | ckknight | except that it's a cross-site article |
| 00:07.59 | ckknight | currently you can't attach images to pages |
| 00:08.00 | Torhal | Xinhuan: Was it you who said there were taint issues with too many elements in UIDropDownMenu? |
| 00:08.01 | ckknight | ...currently |
| 00:08.02 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/ by Ackis |
| 00:08.09 | Xinhuan | perhaps we can provide a project |
| 00:08.26 | Xinhuan | that its sole purpose is just to allow images to be uploaded to it? |
| 00:08.31 | Xinhuan | and linked from there |
| 00:09.11 | Xinhuan | Torhal, yes |
| 00:09.29 | Xinhuan | back to knowledge base, that suggestion would be a workaround rather than a solution |
| 00:09.45 | Torhal | Eight, wasn't it? Shit. Means I won't be going that route with Revelation. |
| 00:10.36 | Xinhuan | i heard its fixed in 3.0.8 torhal |
| 00:10.38 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/ by Ackis |
| 00:11.01 | Torhal | I hope so :) |
| 00:12.38 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/ by Ackis |
| 00:15.45 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r520 Stratholme (4 files in 1 directory): ruRU update |
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| 00:16.20 | Xinhuan | ckknight |
| 00:16.21 | Xinhuan | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/project-3001/files/ |
| 00:16.32 | Xinhuan | "Waiting on project" file not on approval list |
| 00:16.44 | Xinhuan | could be related to the project's abandoned and unabandoned status |
| 00:16.51 | ckknight | yea, it is |
| 00:17.12 | Xinhuan | that is, the author unabandoned the project |
| 00:17.15 | Xinhuan | and uploaded a zip |
| 00:17.17 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Nyxos <- so, what is my next obvious upgrade? |
| 00:17.24 | Xinhuan | but that zip doesn't show up for approval |
| 00:17.39 | Xinhuan | could you fix it |
| 00:17.42 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:17.55 | Ackis | ckknight: did you fix that project with the images I linked you the other day? |
| 00:18.02 | Ackis | the images had the same key |
| 00:18.06 | ckknight | nah, I didn't |
| 00:18.51 | Ackis | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/titan-panel-durability/ mind doing it now? got another message from the author |
| 00:22.51 | ckknight | k |
| 00:23.01 | ckknight | done |
| 00:23.39 | Ackis | ty |
| 00:26.24 | Repo | 10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r36 FailBoat.lua: Added unique player counts to the header lines |
| 00:27.44 | NivFreak | so sylvanaar |
| 00:27.48 | Greltok | If you use the curseforge doc generators, what URL does it put the docs at? |
| 00:27.55 | NivFreak | does failboat provide anything over failbot enchanced |
| 00:28.01 | NivFreak | aside from using libfail |
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| 00:31.41 | NeoTron | notes of wisdom: when discussing feral druid tanking in a public space, remember that terms such as "bear chest" and "bear ass" can mean something completely different different |
| 00:31.55 | NivFreak | hahaha |
| 00:32.25 | NeoTron | a friend did that some time ago - not sure exactly what she said (yes, she) but it was very easily to misinterpret her statement |
| 00:32.35 | NeoTron | took a while for her to realize what she had just said aloud |
| 00:32.56 | NeoTron | sylvanaar: does failboat keep historical data of fail ? |
| 00:33.22 | Repo | 10recount: 03StingerSoft * r972 locales/Recount-ruRU.lua: Recount: |
| 00:33.23 | Bruners | i dont get it |
| 00:33.25 | Repo | - ruRU update |
| 00:33.36 | Bruners | whats wrong with saying bear ass or bear chest ? |
| 00:33.50 | NeoTron | bear sounds like bare |
| 00:33.52 | NivFreak | bare ass |
| 00:33.53 | NivFreak | bare chest? |
| 00:33.54 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:34.05 | Bruners | aha, but still ? |
| 00:34.12 | sylvanaar | NeoTron yes |
| 00:34.15 | NeoTron | she said something like wiggle my bare ass or something |
| 00:34.20 | NivFreak | I'm sure in context it's baffling to a non-wow player |
| 00:34.20 | NivFreak | :P |
| 00:34.24 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Broker_ChannelWatch |
| 00:34.27 | sylvanaar | NeoTron just saves the totals atm |
| 00:34.27 | Repo | -initial commit |
| 00:34.35 | NivFreak | NeoTron: how many of your people are local? |
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| 00:35.09 | sylvanaar | NivFreak no - nothing |
| 00:35.39 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: k :) |
| 00:35.40 | NeoTron | NivFreak: there are quite a few people that live in the general area but atm I don't know anyone of them in RL |
| 00:35.44 | sylvanaar | NivFreak in fact it works beter and does more |
| 00:35.46 | NeoTron | the ones I did know moved away |
| 00:36.08 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: haha, so you're just doing it for the sake of creating libfail for someone else some day? :P |
| 00:36.31 | sylvanaar | well actually i contacted that author, or at least tried to |
| 00:36.40 | NivFreak | yea, I saw your posts |
| 00:36.51 | sylvanaar | i sent pms |
| 00:36.55 | sylvanaar | pm's |
| 00:36.56 | Wizardling | Hey - I'm getting an "Xtensiontooltip" scolling text message (just using Blizzard's default one) showing up occasionally. It happens so quickly I keep missing what it exactly says |
| 00:36.56 | NivFreak | he seemed a bit timid and unsure of himself |
| 00:36.58 | NeoTron | speaking of which, I should repair expeller and (re)release it since the current expeller is more like failspeller |
| 00:37.03 | Wizardling | but it's something like that |
| 00:37.10 | Wizardling | any idea what could cause that? |
| 00:37.11 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I was thinking of trying magictargets again |
| 00:37.22 | NivFreak | NeoTron: how resource hungry is it? |
| 00:37.27 | NeoTron | it's a bit wonky, or rather has some wonky stuff with recent libbars |
| 00:37.28 | Wizardling | I'm just at a loss |
| 00:37.45 | NeoTron | MT itself isn't really. CAn't speak for LibBars since I can't really benchmark it |
| 00:37.53 | NeoTron | rather MT shouldn't be |
| 00:38.06 | NivFreak | I tried it when you first wrote it |
| 00:38.14 | NivFreak | and I can't remember why I immediately disabled it |
| 00:38.43 | NivFreak | of course I rarely mark more than 1 mob in a pack now days |
| 00:38.48 | NivFreak | and we aoe everything down |
| 00:38.53 | NivFreak | so maybe it wouldn't be that useful :) |
| 00:39.44 | NeoTron | I don't find it amazingly useful myself to be honest |
| 00:40.04 | NeoTron | I very rarely look at it - combination of AoE everything + huge tank threat makes it less useful |
| 00:40.08 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:40.10 | Bruners | what are the best error capturing addons ? |
| 00:40.25 | NivFreak | it'd be more interesting at this point just to see who is focusing a target that has no tank on it |
| 00:40.32 | NivFreak | and spam a raid |
| 00:40.46 | NivFreak | failbot should do this |
| 00:41.00 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: there you go, you can make your first failboat specific warning |
| 00:41.01 | Aeyan | Bruners: Bugsack, tekErr, probably a few others |
| 00:41.44 | Wizardling | I use tekErr - it works well enough |
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| 00:41.50 | Wizardling | and stays out of the way |
| 00:42.04 | sylvanaar | its a thought, though the concept is event based |
| 00:42.18 | NivFreak | nay, clearly a requirement |
| 00:42.19 | NivFreak | ;) |
| 00:43.28 | Groktar | think it's possible to get the line in on my soundcard to play over my usb headset? |
| 00:45.00 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03StingerSoft * r65 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridManaBars: |
| 00:45.03 | Repo | - added ruRU localization |
| 00:46.11 | Ackis | ~wowspell 61351 |
| 00:46.12 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=61351 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=61351 |
| 00:50.56 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm * r3 .pkgmeta: Broker_ChannelWatch |
| 00:50.58 | Repo | -removed AceComm from .pkgmeta |
| 00:52.41 | NivFreak | are there any nice and simple mods that do nothing other than track DRs? |
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| 00:55.15 | Bruners | DR's being what? |
| 00:55.40 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r62 / (2 files in 2 directories): ZOMG it'll actually print out shit now |
| 00:55.42 | Dashkal | Diminishing Returns? |
| 00:57.24 | NivFreak | yea |
| 00:57.36 | NivFreak | DRs on my stuns in PVE == retarded |
| 00:58.14 | ulic | umm, the tinurl to the CC RC1 in the topic says is 2.0.0.1 RC1 is that right? |
| 00:58.42 | Bruners | sounds about right |
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| 00:59.52 | ulic | that's what I thought, it is a typo, the when you run the client it says 2.0.1.0 |
| 01:02.02 | Ackis | that client is the latest beta however there's a rewrite in alpha 6 now |
| 01:02.21 | ulic | oh, ok, that's the one I was looking for. |
| 01:02.22 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm 04v1.0 * r4 : Tagging as v1.0 |
| 01:02.25 | Arrowmaster | alpha 7 you mean |
| 01:02.36 | Ackis | 7 is a mean number |
| 01:02.41 | Ackis | because 7 ate 9 |
| 01:02.42 | Ackis | lol |
| 01:02.43 | Ackis | ahaha |
| 01:02.44 | Ackis | roflz |
| 01:02.55 | Arrowmaster | not funny |
| 01:02.58 | amoeba | Funny |
| 01:04.44 | doom0r | not funny |
| 01:04.53 | ulic | Funny |
| 01:04.55 | doom0r | 7 8 9 wouldn't be so bad |
| 01:05.07 | Ackis | I wrote out 8 so people would understand |
| 01:05.09 | Mikk | Groktar: not without an application doing the transfer in software |
| 01:05.39 | Mikk | Not that I can think of one doing it offhand. |
| 01:06.29 | Mikk | Maybe some sound editor set to capture line-in on the soundcard and use the headset as sound output. And with some "[x] Live Monitor" checkbox. |
| 01:06.31 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 01:07.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah i had trouble with that when i had to switch from my audigy2 to my onboard sound, i had been using the RCA inputs on the front drive bay for my console |
| 01:07.26 | doom0r | o.O |
| 01:07.29 | doom0r | stereo mix |
| 01:07.45 | Ackis | since we're talking about sound, do the new soundblasters have connections to use the front panel connectors on my pc? |
| 01:08.14 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03StingerSoft * r99 GridStatusHots_locale.lua: ruRU update |
| 01:08.19 | Arrowmaster | i found software to do it but it had a slight delay thats not very good when using with games, so i just bought an RCA to 3.5mm connector |
| 01:09.57 | Bruners | i have never gotten front panel connectiors to work properly |
| 01:10.39 | Bruners | either just dont work at all or poor sound quaility/disturbance |
| 01:11.05 | Arrowmaster | now i just have my consoles connected to my speakers using that adapter connected directly to the extra connecter on my speakers, but i only get stereo sound from it instead of having software upmixing |
| 01:11.38 | Arrowmaster | wtb new speakers with digital connectors |
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| 01:25.00 | Ackis | dump is not default blizz ui stuff right? |
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| 01:27.13 | sylvanaar | look another fail mod |
| 01:28.20 | Ackis | ? |
| 01:28.32 | doom0r | i don't think he's talking about collectinator ackis |
| 01:28.33 | doom0r | don't worry |
| 01:28.38 | doom0r | runs |
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| 01:28.55 | sylvanaar | another fail counter mod |
| 01:29.09 | sylvanaar | that makes at least 5 |
| 01:30.11 | Ackis | :P |
| 01:30.31 | Bruners | sylvanaar: what mod ? |
| 01:32.52 | Aiiane | guess everyone's jumping on the failwagon, sylvanaar |
| 01:33.07 | sylvanaar | its not my idea |
| 01:33.21 | sylvanaar | and noone is using my library lol |
| 01:33.32 | sylvanaar | though i pm them when i find them |
| 01:33.38 | Ackis | would you use a library called libfail? :P |
| 01:33.46 | Arrowmaster | see another useless library that only gets used by one addon |
| 01:33.53 | Ackis | only thing worse would be to nmae it LibLordFarlander |
| 01:34.36 | sylvanaar | thats how things go Arrowmaster, libraries dont start with 100 users on day 1 |
| 01:34.56 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: do you think libaboutpanel is useless? |
| 01:35.10 | Arrowmaster | doesnt tek also use that? |
| 01:35.21 | Ackis | he wrote it, i bastardized it and extended it |
| 01:35.43 | Zhinjio | 'evenin' Ackis |
| 01:35.52 | Ackis | hey Zhinjio |
| 01:35.56 | Ackis | jim fixed that bug |
| 01:36.00 | Zhinjio | sweet! |
| 01:36.07 | Megalon | someone shoudl make a LibASCIIPr0n |
| 01:36.14 | Megalon | i think that would start off with 100+ users! |
| 01:39.32 | Ackis | ~seen sixen |
| 01:39.34 | purl | sixen <n=Sixen@173-25-20-143.client.mchsi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 3d 3h 42m 58s ago, saying: '<3 sc.'. |
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| 01:46.50 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r63 Collectinator.lua: Few more changes |
| 01:50.39 | NeoTron | speaking of libraries, is there a functionality to see what addons is embedding a library? |
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| 01:51.34 | sylvanaar | im going to make LibArrowmaster-1.0, it will respond to events by yelling Fail! and calling people idiots. That will be a pretty useful library come to think of it. |
| 01:52.23 | NeoTron | realistic too |
| 01:52.31 | NeoTron | make it LibLordArrowmaster-2.0 |
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| 01:53.41 | sylvanaar | no, if you put it in the same addon with LibLordFarlander when you log in you get this huge batman Fail! and it deletes itself |
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| 01:54.40 | pentium166 | I'm not seeing an event for dungeon difficulty changes on wowwiki. Is it safe to say that there isn't one? |
| 01:56.53 | Xinhuan | if there isn't one, just go for system messages and check |
| 02:00.20 | Bruners | Xinhuan: what are the chances for a ace3 version of postal ? |
| 02:00.27 | Xinhuan | pretty high |
| 02:00.32 | Xinhuan | like 90% |
| 02:00.34 | Bruners | last ace2 addon i have :P |
| 02:00.54 | Ackis | can you make it so that the autosend thing is default off? :P |
| 02:00.58 | Xinhuan | once i delete fubar and bigwigs, i won't have ace2 addons left |
| 02:01.02 | Bruners | autosend ? |
| 02:01.10 | Ackis | quicksend I think it's called |
| 02:01.16 | Xinhuan | p.s dont' alt-click |
| 02:01.20 | Xinhuan | use RIGHT CLICK |
| 02:01.26 | Xinhuan | which is part of default ui |
| 02:01.33 | Bruners | i like that feature |
| 02:01.40 | Gngsk | alt-click is so much better than right lcick |
| 02:01.48 | Ackis | right click? |
| 02:01.54 | Bruners | Xinhuan: i thought nobody used fubar anymore |
| 02:01.56 | Gngsk | ofc |
| 02:02.11 | Xinhuan | i still do actually because of its configurability |
| 02:02.38 | Xinhuan | oh and quartz HMM |
| 02:02.41 | Xinhuan | how to replace that one |
| 02:03.08 | Bruners | i just use the castbar in ouf |
| 02:03.22 | haste | don't we all |
| 02:03.33 | Gngsk | no. |
| 02:03.37 | Gngsk | be we all should! |
| 02:03.51 | haste | :) |
| 02:03.54 | Bruners | haste: apparently not Xinhuan :P |
| 02:04.36 | haste | Xinhuan doesn't count! |
| 02:04.57 | Bruners | he subtracts ? |
| 02:05.06 | Xinhuan | no i multiply |
| 02:05.20 | haste | with 0! |
| 02:06.07 | Bruners | dont divide by zero! |
| 02:06.16 | haste | or the universe gets it |
| 02:06.41 | Bruners | haste: what can i do about my dark blue targeted pets? |
| 02:07.10 | haste | change the color |
| 02:07.19 | Bruners | but i cant figure out how |
| 02:07.40 | haste | using a post-function would work |
| 02:08.45 | Bruners | i tried with http://amnith.pastey.net/106346 |
| 02:10.45 | Bruners | maby i should try calling that inside the style func aswell... |
| 02:12.22 | haste | won't that just check if the unit is a PC? |
| 02:12.24 | haste | and not an NPC? |
| 02:16.40 | Bruners | haste: i think you are correct |
| 02:18.15 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 037destiny * r521 Stratholme (2 files in 1 directory): koKR Update |
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| 02:19.09 | haste | Bruners: I finally remembered to fix the leader icon btw |
| 02:19.56 | Bruners | :) |
| 02:20.07 | Bruners | haste: wowinterface's ticket system is pure shit |
| 02:20.12 | haste | yep |
| 02:20.17 | Bruners | cant preview, and you cant edit either |
| 02:20.21 | haste | been pondering about moving oUF over to mantis |
| 02:20.22 | haste | \ |
| 02:20.33 | haste | and all the other stuff |
| 02:22.52 | Bruners | haste: what about wowace/curseforge ? |
| 02:23.31 | haste | I don't see a reason to use it just for the ticket system |
| 02:24.12 | Repo | 10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r37 FailBoat.lua: fix nil bugs |
| 02:24.20 | haste | nice boat! |
| 02:24.29 | Bruners | haste: well, also to have oUF on curse :P |
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| 02:24.57 | haste | I don't like the users there :P |
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| 02:25.12 | doom0r | "omg, like hai, i instlld wuf n like thars NO FRAMES!!!!!!" |
| 02:25.26 | haste | and there is really no gain still |
| 02:25.31 | haste | just another spot to post stuff |
| 02:25.36 | haste | and keep updated |
| 02:25.45 | haste | and look for bug reports, etc |
| 02:26.01 | amoeba | Curse is definitely the last place an AddOn author wants to host their stuff. |
| 02:26.06 | amoeba | (for a lot of good reasons) |
| 02:30.44 | Bruners | haste: what did you gain by making that local unit = self.unit ? :P |
| 02:32.11 | Xinhuan | you gain one table lookup less per future use |
| 02:32.23 | amoeba | You can just do `local unit = unit` (shorthand) |
| 02:32.57 | Xinhuan | what reasons do you have amoeba |
| 02:33.12 | amoeba | The LUA interpreter assumes the right-hand `unit` is self.unit |
| 02:33.22 | krka | amoeba: You shouldn't capitalize Lua like that. ;-) |
| 02:33.30 | amoeba | That's true. |
| 02:33.38 | Camci | wtb a good unholy pvp spec |
| 02:33.47 | amoeba | LUA stands for Lua is Unusually Awesome |
| 02:34.28 | Xinhuan | that krka bot is getting better ;p |
| 02:35.35 | amoeba | I will have to work hard to undo years of mis-training. |
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| 02:36.43 | doom0r | it's a good think LUA can't possibly mean anything else in the world |
| 02:36.48 | doom0r | strangles krka |
| 02:36.59 | amoeba | You speak too soon doom0r: http://www.acronymfinder.com/LUA.html |
| 02:37.23 | doom0r | ~fail amoeba |
| 02:37.24 | purl | amoeba, you Fail! |
| 02:37.31 | amoeba | ~unfail amoeba |
| 02:37.37 | amoeba | Broken bot. |
| 02:37.38 | doom0r | http://www.acronymgeek.com/lua |
| 02:37.59 | doom0r | you speak too soon ;x |
| 02:38.09 | amoeba | We have battled and I have lost. |
| 02:38.15 | haste | amoeba: I don't think it does |
| 02:38.31 | amoeba | haste: By all means I could be wrong. I read it in PIL. |
| 02:38.46 | haste | *tests* |
| 02:38.49 | amoeba | I have, however, coded codes with it like that. |
| 02:39.22 | haste | amoeba: http://codepad.org/3f1365mH seems to not be the case |
| 02:41.32 | amoeba | Hrm. |
| 02:41.35 | amoeba | I wonder what I read. |
| 02:42.16 | amoeba | And, your example wasn't what I meant. I'm looking for the shortcut I think I saw. |
| 02:46.59 | Arrowmaster | amoeba: what do you have against curse |
| 02:47.09 | amoeba | It's not fun to use. |
| 02:48.16 | Arrowmaster | and 'local unit = unit' is not the same as 'local unit = self.unit' |
| 02:51.38 | amoeba | I wish I could remember what I was reading. |
| 02:52.14 | WobWork | also note |
| 02:52.28 | WobWork | that none of those acronyms actually refer to the programming language |
| 02:52.38 | amoeba | Well, of course. |
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| 02:52.38 | Groktar | 6285 deep wounds? good lord |
| 02:53.01 | WobWork | I get 6k obliterate crits sometimes |
| 02:55.36 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r40 events.lua: debugging |
| 02:56.20 | amoeba | Best I can tell, all I was thinking of was the mechanism that makes this go smoothly, http://codepad.org/yhvGA2WM |
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| 03:00.00 | Bruners | BaudErrorFrame was pro |
| 03:00.53 | Bruners | WobWork: 4099min, 5582 avg and 10523 max on obliterate for me |
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| 03:01.34 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r41 events.lua: moar debug |
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| 03:03.22 | WobWork | Bruners: yes, but I have crappy gear |
| 03:03.34 | WobWork | I don't even have any T7 yet |
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| 03:08.23 | Bruners | why cant people play AV when i need to test stuff :S |
| 03:09.06 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): yet more debug |
| 03:13.54 | Bruners | WobWork: you can have kinda nice gear without raiding |
| 03:14.47 | Bruners | haste: when will you push 1.3.2 ? |
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| 03:16.51 | WobWork | Bruners: yeah, most of it's tanking gear |
| 03:17.07 | WobWork | my ap is pretty terrible in it compared to dps gear |
| 03:18.45 | haste | Bruners: no idea |
| 03:19.30 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r43 embeds.xml: babbleboss problem |
| 03:22.04 | Zhinjio | hey, ercommend a viewport mod, please? |
| 03:26.07 | Bruners | why cant the secure handlers errors tell where they come from |
| 03:27.36 | Xinhuan | because they fire from secure events |
| 03:27.45 | Xinhuan | and so the source is really the event triggering the secure handler |
| 03:29.23 | Xinhuan | there is no addon code involved basically |
| 03:29.27 | Xinhuan | or it wouldn't be secure |
| 03:29.31 | Xinhuan | get it? :) |
| 03:29.43 | Bruners | got it |
| 03:29.52 | Bruners | but i still think its stupid :P |
| 03:31.01 | Bruners | if goldseller then return end |
| 03:31.33 | Aiiane | if goldseller than continue end |
| 03:31.35 | Aiiane | :P |
| 03:32.42 | Zhinjio | no thoughts on viewport mods? |
| 03:32.45 | Zhinjio | blah |
| 03:32.48 | Bruners | opanel |
| 03:33.04 | Bruners | only viewportish i use |
| 03:34.06 | fewyn | doing a 25 man pug naxx... and... this paladin... doesn't have a flying mount? |
| 03:34.09 | fewyn | o_O |
| 03:34.14 | Bruners | luls |
| 03:34.27 | Bruners | maby he doesnt have the cash for frost riding |
| 03:34.34 | fewyn | no |
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| 03:34.37 | fewyn | he doesn't even have that |
| 03:34.42 | fewyn | not even normal flyer |
| 03:34.51 | doom0r | ... |
| 03:35.11 | Bruners | thats an accomplishment |
| 03:35.15 | amoeba | fewyn: Are you on Hyjal perchance? |
| 03:35.35 | fewyn | no |
| 03:35.37 | Bruners | just by doing 60-70 you get enough from questing to buy a normal flyer |
| 03:35.41 | fewyn | my brain |
| 03:35.44 | fewyn | is like going to explode |
| 03:35.53 | fewyn | from trying to hear this guy justify it |
| 03:35.57 | amoeba | I had that happen last week on Hyjal. Paladin too. |
| 03:36.07 | WobWork | so.. he has to be summoned up each wipe? |
| 03:36.16 | WobWork | fail |
| 03:36.20 | fewyn | yea |
| 03:36.23 | WobWork | boot him from the raid |
| 03:36.24 | amoeba | I started Wrath with 0 gold, leveled 62-80, ended up with $4000 w/o doing anything. |
| 03:36.56 | fewyn | he will be booted if we wipe on thaddius again |
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| 03:37.08 | doom0r | storm peaks at lvl 80 is 1500g start to finish |
| 03:37.18 | doom0r | takes about 8 hours |
| 03:37.35 | amoeba | Mining is better money but that's pretty good. |
| 03:37.46 | WobWork | herb is probably better money |
| 03:37.54 | doom0r | that's just quests |
| 03:37.56 | WobWork | saronite doesn't sell for crap on my server |
| 03:37.58 | doom0r | i'm a tailor chanter |
| 03:38.02 | fewyn | i didn't have any professions for gathering |
| 03:38.07 | fewyn | and i had 5k when i hit 80 |
| 03:38.09 | doom0r | so no selling items either |
| 03:38.10 | fewyn | now up to 10k |
| 03:38.11 | doom0r | all d/e's |
| 03:38.17 | amoeba | When Wrath was fresh out, Saronite and Titanium sold for insane amounts. Now it's < 50% of the old value. |
| 03:38.41 | amoeba | Now all my Titanium is just going to rot. |
| 03:38.50 | Bruners | make titansteels |
| 03:38.59 | amoeba | Those don't sell for enough on my server any longer. |
| 03:39.12 | Bruners | make epix of them then |
| 03:39.17 | amoeba | I'd make a profit but it wouldn't be worth my time. |
| 03:39.28 | Bruners | so you let them rot instead? :P |
| 03:39.36 | Xinhuan | well ok let it rot in your bank then ;p |
| 03:39.45 | amoeba | If I played WoW anymore I'd do something about it. |
| 03:39.58 | Bruners | mr complainy pants |
| 03:40.04 | Xinhuan | but you frequent a wow channel! |
| 03:40.26 | amoeba | I mean play in the biblical sense. |
| 03:42.09 | Bruners | is there an alternative to ratingbuster? |
| 03:43.28 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r522 Dragonblight/Herald_Volazj.lua: Herald Volazj: Added some health logging |
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| 03:44.52 | Primer | wtf, Repo didn't report my commit |
| 03:45.09 | amoeba | He's evolving. |
| 03:45.44 | Xinhuan | what rating does hateful helm need? |
| 03:51.00 | ulic | Primer: mine was delayed a bit, maybe yours is still coming. |
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| 03:51.55 | WobWork | That's what -she- said! |
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| 04:04.06 | Primer | I thought you could svn merge without a local repo |
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| 04:05.46 | Arrowmaster | you can |
| 04:06.19 | Arrowmaster | oh wait no you cant |
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| 04:08.55 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r149 : Nuke trunk because merging is tedious. |
| 04:09.50 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r150 / (2 files in 2 directories): Move waypoints branch to trunk. |
| 04:15.49 | Bruners | is there a command to show a spells tooltip ? |
| 04:16.16 | Bruners | like SetUnitAura() |
| 04:16.53 | Arrowmaster | tooltip:SetHyperlink() |
| 04:17.15 | Arrowmaster | just give it "spellid:#" |
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| 04:17.29 | Arrowmaster | err |
| 04:17.33 | Arrowmaster | just give it "spell:#" |
| 04:18.06 | Zhinjio | when I win the lottery, I will hire you all to write the cool addons I miss. |
| 04:18.08 | Zhinjio | this I promise. |
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| 04:19.48 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.7.7 * r151 : Tagging as v0.7.7. |
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| 04:24.55 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: spell:1123132 or just 123123 ? |
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| 04:25.08 | Arrowmaster | you need the spell: |
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| 04:26.03 | Repo | 10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r77 / (6 files in 2 directories): - fixed issue with weapon buffs being reported to raid |
| 04:26.05 | Repo | - added pet buff checks for DKs with Master of Ghouls talent |
| 04:26.07 | Repo | - added check for Frost Presence (DKs) and Defensive Stance (warriors) for tanking |
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| 04:31.42 | RaydenU | cloaks for feral druids, cat and bear, just major agility? |
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| 04:49.40 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-channelwatch/. Broker_ChannelWatch. Morgalm (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 04:51.28 | Ackis | ping mikk |
| 04:55.55 | Repo | 10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r78 Classes/DeathKnight.lua: |
| 04:55.57 | Repo | - enabling the pet config for DKs with Master of Ghouls might help |
| 05:04.06 | Repo | 10buff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.1.9 * r79 : Tagging as 1.1.9 |
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| 05:21.16 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Azethoth * r98 GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: |
| 05:21.18 | Repo | -- change defaults for kel'thuzad to decrease non-critical spam. |
| 05:22.07 | pastamancer | oh fuck me... how do I get .pkgmeta to refer to a specific revision of a svn url? |
| 05:24.15 | Aiiane | no thanks, and um, isn't that what a tag would be for? |
| 05:24.22 | pastamancer | you'd think |
| 05:24.30 | pastamancer | if libhealcomm-3.0 had any tags |
| 05:24.45 | Aiiane | yell at the author to tag? |
| 05:25.23 | pastamancer | or I could ninja-fix the broken code in trunk |
| 05:25.42 | Aiiane | or that :P |
| 05:26.19 | Bruners | hmm, /rl is not a part of ace3 ? |
| 05:27.41 | Xinhuan | only in standalone ace3 |
| 05:28.16 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03Pastamancer * r28 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Ticket #3: effectiveHealingBuff -> effectiveHealBuff |
| 05:28.16 | Primer | Anyone here have the headless horseman's mount? If so, could you please test my addon? http://www.wowace.com/projects/flight-hud/files/ |
| 05:28.20 | Primer | thanks |
| 05:28.28 | Bruners | Xinhuan: standalone meaning? |
| 05:28.35 | Xinhuan | disembedded ace3 |
| 05:28.42 | Bruners | why not embedded? |
| 05:28.52 | Xinhuan | cos its not in any library |
| 05:28.57 | Xinhuan | its in a separate file in ace3 |
| 05:29.01 | RaydenU | i have a problem with closetgnome |
| 05:29.05 | RaydenU | i can't figure out how to delete a set |
| 05:29.22 | Ackis | Xinhuan: you bored and able to do something for me? |
| 05:29.33 | Xinhuan | not bored |
| 05:29.34 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 05:29.36 | Ackis | :( |
| 05:29.46 | Ackis | I need someone to talk to an alliance toon on azgalor for me lol |
| 05:29.57 | Ackis | camping books with me and I want to get them on msn/aim |
| 05:30.03 | quiescens | offer him a bribe of 2 copper |
| 05:33.20 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.0.3-1.1.4 * r48 : Tagging as 3.0.3-1.1.4 |
| 05:38.27 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1133 Grid.toc: Get ready for release. |
| 05:41.00 | quiescens | uh oh |
| 05:43.20 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 04prerelease-1.30000.2009011501 * r1134 : Will tag for release in the morning. |
| 05:46.40 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r39 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added extra explanatory messages. |
| 05:46.42 | Repo | Bumped version number to 0.5. |
| 05:47.36 | Ackis | 3/8 books read... fuck that pet |
| 05:47.54 | Xinhuan | books have 3 min uptime |
| 05:48.00 | Xinhuan | there is no rush |
| 05:49.28 | WobWork | no rush? =P |
| 05:49.39 | Ackis | 3 mins out of 4 hours... :P |
| 05:49.57 | WobWork | with the damn junk books spawning |
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| 05:50.05 | WobWork | has the pet, but damn it took a while |
| 05:50.08 | rapidgame | whats the best way to create/use windows with ace3 - im a bit of a noob and i want to have a window display that shows some values from my addon, any ideas? |
| 05:51.09 | Xinhuan | well wintergrasp on Blackrock crashed server often enough i got all 8 books in a day |
| 05:51.12 | Xinhuan | or 2 days |
| 05:51.22 | Xinhuan | since a server crash respawns all 8 locations |
| 05:51.56 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 05:53.37 | Xinhuan | also it helps if you use /g to tell each other when books are up ;p |
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| 05:54.29 | Ackis | i've only seen two people notify chat about books |
| 05:54.36 | Ackis | i've done it twice myself |
| 05:54.49 | Bruners | i have never seen any books |
| 05:55.28 | Arrowmaster | i mentioned the one upstairs in the inn in general and over a dozen people came running to read it |
| 05:56.40 | doom0r | mmm, /g is a waste of typing for me |
| 05:56.48 | doom0r | i can tell myself in my own head |
| 06:01.05 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg 04v0.5 * r40 : (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 06:01.07 | Repo | Tagging as v0.5 |
| 06:01.10 | Repo | Major new features: |
| 06:01.13 | Repo | - Select multiple items in "Buy" tab |
| 06:01.15 | Repo | - Toggle per-stack and per-item prices in tooltip |
| 06:11.35 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r12 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - zhCN: Spell power update (by pherl) |
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| 06:14.32 | RaydenU | woot 6000ap |
| 06:16.56 | doom0r | castrates himself for reading trade chat |
| 06:17.25 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added some more chat commands |
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| 06:17.29 | Repo | Fixed some daft bugs |
| 06:17.32 | Repo | Moved the Deadmines test data table where it belongs, so I can test properly |
| 06:17.35 | Repo | BUG: classification is currently broken |
| 06:18.00 | Xinhuan | 21 sota wins in a row now... |
| 06:21.36 | Bruners | i hate secure handler crap |
| 06:31.53 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 06:31.56 | Repo | Changed over to using the StaticPopup for the input windows. |
| 06:31.58 | Repo | Added support for setting raid icons. |
| 06:32.02 | Repo | Finished the implementation for setting from broadcasts. |
| 06:32.04 | Repo | Reworked the menu initialisation a bit. |
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| 06:43.11 | doom0r | someone wanted a 5 second rule mod |
| 06:43.13 | doom0r | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12213-Pentagon.html |
| 06:44.11 | amoeba | "Needs more LDB" -- Tekkub |
| 06:44.55 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r24 / (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 06:44.57 | Repo | EggTimer: |
| 06:45.00 | Repo | - fixed missing LibSink-2.0 |
| 06:45.03 | Repo | - migrate libraries from embeds.xml to .toc |
| 06:45.06 | Repo | - fixed missing comma in .toc |
| 06:45.41 | doom0r | someone should put Tekkub in an LDB object, then when you click on it, it'll tell you what to do in the most ridiculously efficient and options lacking way |
| 06:46.03 | doom0r | would be great for pugs |
| 06:46.22 | Bruners | no point having options if everything is perfect? |
| 06:46.28 | Torhal | Kill the fucking mob. There is no other option, damn it! |
| 06:46.49 | doom0r | ^ prime example |
| 06:47.14 | amoeba | This is the time for a "Yo dawg..." joke. |
| 06:47.46 | doom0r | is there a druid mana bar that uses LSM? |
| 06:48.46 | doom0r | or one that would follow the aforementioned Tekkub pathology and doesn't have 2039480238423 ridiculous options to spam chat when you shift and crap? |
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| 07:03.29 | Hjalte | I really need a good dkp addon that works with exporting to EQDKP Plus. I've been using NRT for a while, but it's a lot of work adding every single boss and I would also like to have some more features regarding wait lists and loot prices. Any suggestions? |
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| 07:08.29 | doom0r | "good dkp addon" heh |
| 07:08.49 | doom0r | hands Hjalte a gun |
| 07:08.57 | Hjalte | Yeah... |
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| 07:28.44 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 07:28.51 | sylvanaar | nothing works |
| 07:30.41 | Repo | 10grid: 03yleaf * r1135 GridLocale-zhCN.lua: zhcn update |
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| 07:41.24 | Bruners | if i only knew what was causing secure handlers errors |
| 07:41.56 | Xinhuan | easy |
| 07:42.15 | Xinhuan | the errors you are seeing is because a pet unit was created while you are in combat |
| 07:42.33 | Xinhuan | (i.e a hunter/warlock got rezzed, or dismounted, or someone entered a vehicle) |
| 07:42.48 | Xinhuan | the pet template of blizzard is buggy and doesn't check if its secure |
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| 07:43.19 | Groktar | touches Xinhuan's naughty parts |
| 07:43.26 | Xinhuan | and since blizzard code doesn't use their own templates, they dont' know or care much |
| 07:44.28 | Bruners | so what your saying is that all this time debugging commenting out shit is blizzards fault? |
| 07:44.43 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 07:44.54 | Xinhuan | i dont' know why you bother trying ;p |
| 07:45.05 | Xinhuan | because if the error occurs in secure templates, it CANNOT be an addon fault |
| 07:45.30 | Xinhuan | unless your objective is to find out why, and then tell blizz how to fix it |
| 07:46.17 | Xinhuan | anyway, the secure templates are designed by blizz to be used by addons |
| 07:46.34 | Xinhuan | blizz doesn't actually use them themselves - as their own code is secure |
| 07:47.04 | Xinhuan | so you could say its an addon fault - for using the secure template ;p |
| 07:48.38 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r25 EggTimer.lua: EggTimer: |
| 07:48.41 | Repo | - add "EggTimer" title to tooltip |
| 07:48.47 | Bruners | but it did say myaddon got blocked from using balbalbal |
| 07:49.24 | Xinhuan | yeah but that's because your addon is using the secure template |
| 07:50.06 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r146 / (12 files in 3 directories): Packing all modules, no more multiple addons/directories! |
| 07:50.09 | Repo | And stopped class modules being loaded if the player isn't that class, as yaroot suggested. |
| 07:50.32 | Bruners | isnt the point in using secure templates that it wont be stopped by blizzards secure shit? |
| 07:50.50 | Xinhuan | exactly - so its blizzard's fault |
| 07:50.56 | Shefki | Be nice if Blizzard coded the default UI using the same tools we did so that they find the bugs we run into. |
| 07:50.58 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r8 MTarget.lua: |
| 07:51.00 | Repo | Trying another method for getting the button added to the MacroFrame. |
| 07:51.05 | Xinhuan | my point is - using the template will cause errors with pets - but you can't choose not to use it |
| 07:51.10 | Bruners | druids can use travelform indoors now!!? |
| 07:51.17 | Xinhuan | your addon is a unitframe, yes? |
| 07:51.19 | Shefki | Bruners: No |
| 07:51.28 | Bruners | this druid just did |
| 07:51.41 | Bruners | Xinhuan: ouf layout |
| 07:52.02 | Shefki | Bruners: Bugs happen. |
| 07:52.17 | Xinhuan | yes and your layout has pet frames, yes? |
| 07:52.26 | Bruners | Shefki: flag room WSG |
| 07:52.29 | Bruners | Xinhuan: yep |
| 07:52.29 | Xinhuan | anything to do with pets is buggy |
| 07:52.38 | Xinhuan | remove pets and you won't see anymore errors |
| 07:52.38 | girlyman | bats his eyes at Xinhuan |
| 07:52.48 | Shefki | Bruners: That's considered outdoors as far as I recall. |
| 07:52.57 | Arrowmaster | you cant mount there though |
| 07:53.10 | Bruners | and then he ran down the tunnel |
| 07:53.11 | Shefki | Blizzard is not consistent with a lot of things. |
| 07:54.34 | girlyman | holds Shefki's hand |
| 07:54.36 | Bruners | the retard that invented instant aoe fears that lasts for ages should be killed |
| 07:55.06 | sb|work | morning |
| 07:55.08 | Xinhuan | oh you mean that aoe mace stun with no GCD and cooldown? (Death and decay glyph) |
| 07:56.50 | Bruners | was more talking about aoe fears that lasts forever with CD that is ready when you reach the priest again |
| 07:58.23 | Aeyan | As a priest, I take offense to that. |
| 07:58.37 | Aeyan | I've got one fear and EVERYONE has at least one anti-fear option to blow =P |
| 07:58.59 | Shefki | Bruners: That's bull the CD on the priest fear is longer than that. And it's not much of a defense. |
| 07:59.16 | Aeyan | 30 seconds. |
| 07:59.28 | Aeyan | It's plenty of time to savor that ass reaming you're recieving. |
| 07:59.29 | pastamancer | it's hardly even worth fearing as a priest in pvp |
| 07:59.46 | Bruners | funny thing is, thats all they do |
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| 08:05.05 | Wizardling | Odd - http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11205-Ara_Broker_Guild_Friends.html and tekkubs Friend and Guild LDB plugins seem similar |
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| 08:17.50 | doom0r | Antiarc: WTB PowerBar for any non-mana class form, proper :) |
| 08:17.59 | Antiarc | WTB free time |
| 08:18.01 | Antiarc | Let's trade |
| 08:18.24 | doom0r | mmm, were it that easy, certainly |
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| 08:24.18 | Xinhuan | what can i use sota marks for |
| 08:24.23 | Xinhuan | i have 45 in my mailbox |
| 08:24.39 | doom0r | keeping the new mail icon up |
| 08:24.56 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think there was a limit anymore |
| 08:25.48 | doom0r | atm only honor Xinhuan |
| 08:26.05 | Xinhuan | the BGs are all still unique (100) |
| 08:26.10 | Xinhuan | the WG one is (1000) |
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| 08:28.17 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r147 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added zhCN and zhTW locale files thanks to yaroot. |
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| 08:34.44 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r33 LibFail-1.0.lua: |
| 08:34.46 | Repo | found code i miscopied for thaddius jumps, it needs to be re-thought completely |
| 08:37.04 | Repo | 10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r38 / (2 files in 1 directory): libqtip optdep |
| 08:44.11 | Repo | 10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow * r63 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 08:44.13 | Repo | - change combat log reporting to ctrl-left-click to avoid accidental spammage |
| 08:44.16 | Repo | - add a note in the main UI that makes it clear how to report |
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| 08:46.15 | Repo | 10acheron: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.0.8 * r64 : Tagging as 1.0.8 |
| 08:56.05 | Cheadstina | hmmm our hunters does rather crappy DPS on patchwork(they do most damage on most other bosses).. anyone got a good explanation to that? |
| 08:57.21 | Kalroth | He's a huntard, not a hunter. |
| 08:57.56 | amoeba | ^^ |
| 08:58.39 | Kalroth | You may have to elaborate a bit if you want a better answer. :) |
| 08:58.57 | Cheadstina | he's doing most damage(by far) on all other bosses.. http://wowwebstats.com/qn6dezzfh2lnq?s=20174-39756 |
| 08:59.38 | amoeba | Wow. Rotten DPS> |
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| 09:06.39 | *** topic/#wowace is wowace.com | paste.wowace.com | lua.org | .15 Mac tinyurl.com/8pr7u7 || 2.0.1.0.RC1 tinyurl.com/5l6cfz | Username: wowace.com/request-name-change/ | Careful. We don't want to learn from this. - Bill Watterson |
| 09:07.05 | doom0r | there seems to be a problem with the temperature outside, it's in F, and it's preceded by a - |
| 09:07.15 | amoeba | Submit a ticket yet? |
| 09:07.30 | doom0r | hmmm |
| 09:07.35 | Zao | Working as intended. |
| 09:07.39 | doom0r | @project IRL/weather |
| 09:07.40 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'IRL/weather' |
| 09:07.43 | doom0r | =\ |
| 09:11.09 | nevcairiel | ~weather edhi |
| 09:11.30 | nevcairiel | oh man its foggy again |
| 09:12.16 | Cheadstina | ahhh.. Pet damage isn't included on that patchwork kill... for some odd reason. So that's why the hunters have such low dps |
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| 09:16.07 | doom0r | Cheadstina: thadius spends an awful large amount of his hits with viper on |
| 09:17.10 | doom0r | you need replenishment |
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| 09:17.42 | doom0r | or they need to watch viper/hawk tiems |
| 09:17.55 | doom0r | can't tell to be sure |
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| 09:19.50 | doom0r | i'd assume ~800 dps for the missing pet |
| 09:20.00 | Cheadstina | we aren't very well equipped, only second week we have raided, so probably not enough mana |
| 09:20.14 | doom0r | ya, i saw that, armoried a few |
| 09:20.17 | doom0r | so it's not bad |
| 09:20.22 | doom0r | just reflective of the state |
| 09:20.28 | Cheadstina | yeah |
| 09:20.32 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.03.01 * r1862 : Tagging as v5.03.01 |
| 09:21.00 | Cheadstina | it's a shame the trash is so damn easy ... more fun with the old naxx 40 man |
| 09:21.21 | doom0r | mm, supposed to have a bunch of mobs get their dps upped |
| 09:21.39 | doom0r | might just be 25man, can't recall |
| 09:21.43 | doom0r | something on WoR |
| 09:22.37 | Arrowmaster | some trash has normal hp instead of heroic hp |
| 09:22.50 | doom0r | ahhh, that's it |
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| 09:24.03 | Cheadstina | ah ok |
| 09:24.48 | Cheadstina | oh well, it is supposed to be easier than karazhan... and they certainly managed that =) |
| 09:27.52 | doom0r | setting up my druids bars is gonna be a pita |
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| 09:28.30 | quiesense | o.O |
| 09:29.15 | doom0r | takes aim and lets his index finger fly |
| 09:33.32 | theoddone33 | my guild is getting a rep on the server for ninja looting!! |
| 09:33.49 | theoddone33 | I g uess we deserve it |
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| 09:40.53 | FtH|Daemona | golfclaps. |
| 09:41.03 | FtH|Daemona | grz blizzard |
| 09:41.18 | FtH|Daemona | you overhauled the downloader visually, but still dont allow upload limitation... |
| 09:41.41 | doom0r | use another torrent client? |
| 09:41.57 | FtH|Daemona | http://i41.tinypic.com/6r2dtv.jpg |
| 09:42.12 | FtH|Daemona | doom0r sure, its a possibility for the tech savvy user |
| 09:42.17 | quiesense | everyone knows graphics is more important |
| 09:42.20 | quiesense | these days |
| 09:42.35 | FtH|Daemona | but joe average would help it if he could have a simply button in the downloader |
| 09:42.37 | doom0r | doesn't even need to be tech savvy |
| 09:42.40 | doom0r | idiots use torrents |
| 09:42.56 | theoddone33 | usually http only downloads are just as fast for me |
| 09:42.58 | quiesense | its more important for things to be pretty than for things to work |
| 09:43.08 | theoddone33 | but come to think of it that was before I opened ports on my firewall |
| 09:43.09 | nevcairiel | FtH|Daemona: torrents and upload limitations dont work good together =P |
| 09:43.11 | FtH|Daemona | yeah, then tell an idiot how to extract the torrent, download it via a torrent client and then place it in the right folder |
| 09:43.15 | rapidgame | anyone have any info on using AceGUI, or a good addon to use as an example? |
| 09:43.30 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel they better should, else a full throttle upload will kill the download, you know? |
| 09:43.37 | FtH|Daemona | no ACK no Receive |
| 09:43.50 | nevcairiel | i never had that problem with the downloader |
| 09:43.51 | Aeyan | Yeah, if I run full upload, my download slows down to ~10% or so |
| 09:43.57 | Aeyan | Not even kidding, heh. |
| 09:44.22 | FtH|Daemona | nevcairiel i never go above 100kb if the blizz downloader goes all out on my upload ... |
| 09:44.28 | Aeyan | God bless wowwiki's patch mirror page and utorrent. |
| 09:44.32 | FtH|Daemona | i can either netlimit it or use a torrent client |
| 09:44.38 | quiesense | o.O |
| 09:44.38 | doom0r | a.wirebrain.de/wow |
| 09:44.50 | FtH|Daemona | both is a inconvenience for joe average |
| 09:44.55 | Elkano | the wow web installer was pretty fast though |
| 09:45.14 | doom0r | throttling upload is not the issue |
| 09:45.23 | doom0r | it's the design of the protocol |
| 09:45.51 | mykx | rapidshare premium ftw screw blizz downloader :) |
| 09:45.53 | FtH|Daemona | doom0r yeah, blame tcp/ip and the requirement for ACK packets... you fail |
| 09:46.17 | quiesense | eh |
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| 09:47.55 | quiesense | the reasons for that sort of performance issue can be complicated |
| 09:48.55 | quiesense | the simplest thing people do to work around it is to limit the maximum upload speeds etc |
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| 09:49.22 | FtH|Daemona | no, if something uses 100% of your upload bandwidth and you try to download something at the same time, the upload is choked for the ack of the received data..... |
| 09:49.32 | FtH|Daemona | why do i feel like repeating what i said 5 minutes ago |
| 09:49.52 | quiesense | that's the simple version |
| 09:49.53 | quiesense | lol |
| 09:50.03 | winkiller | throws in random rant about bittorrent (client implementations) and routers and random incoming ports |
| 09:50.32 | FtH|Daemona | oh yeah and the most fail about the new downloader is, when its done it only offers a cancel button \o/ really intuitive |
| 09:50.49 | rapidgame | does anyone actually even use AceGUI? |
| 09:50.56 | quiesense | *a* direct tcp connection uploading as fast as possible would gradually throttle itself somewhat |
| 09:51.26 | quiesense | bit torrent uses many connections though, and most of them are short lived, so they don't get the chance to throttle automatically |
| 09:51.48 | FtH|Daemona | why should it, usually you use a asynchron internet connection e.g. the tube towards your home is bigger then your tube to the internet |
| 09:51.49 | FtH|Daemona | ... |
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| 09:53.53 | FtH|Daemona | the problem is which you dont seem to understand is, downloads require a certain amount of upload for saying "yup, i got that packet" ... but if you upload something with max bandwidth these packets are delayed, which as a result delays the sending of the next download packet |
| 09:54.00 | FtH|Daemona | is fighting windmills. |
| 09:54.02 | quiesense | I know that |
| 09:54.11 | winkiller | invents udp-torrents |
| 09:54.14 | quiesense | I'm saying, ordinarily it would adjust by itself |
| 09:54.21 | quiesense | but it can't for bit torrent |
| 09:54.37 | FtH|Daemona | facepalms. |
| 09:54.40 | nevcairiel | any good router should prefer sending small tcp-control-packets |
| 09:54.42 | nevcairiel | but shrug :P |
| 09:55.24 | nevcairiel | maybe thats why i dont have issues, i have a good router :) |
| 09:55.39 | quiesense | yeah, the better way would be to prioritise acks and such than require people to manually apply maximum upload speeds |
| 09:57.04 | winkiller | make it a new standard |
| 09:57.08 | winkiller | AwesomeTCP |
| 09:57.11 | winkiller | (with cookies) |
| 09:57.21 | quiesense | mm, cookie |
| 09:57.23 | nevcairiel | it doesnt need a standard |
| 09:57.31 | nevcairiel | just a well configured router |
| 09:57.50 | doom0r | since Joe Average who's gonna bitch no matter what and is clueless is the issue, tell them to go buy a gaming router that supports packet prioritization for games and bittorrent |
| 09:57.57 | winkiller | actually I never heard about a router that does that |
| 09:58.23 | winkiller | actually I never heard about a gaming router either |
| 09:58.26 | doom0r | throttling is not the proper fix, nor will it ever be |
| 09:58.30 | FtH|Daemona | i've got a f*ckin' 150 bucks cisco soho router and i cant prio acks, so what -.- |
| 09:58.51 | FtH|Daemona | and the "gaming prio" you can set is saying "hey prio traffic on that ports" |
| 09:58.51 | winkiller | bet you don't use openwrt or such :P |
| 09:59.13 | winkiller | is also too lazy to put openwrt on his linksys |
| 09:59.13 | nevcairiel | openwrt can do that |
| 09:59.14 | doom0r | google, gaming router, first return |
| 09:59.15 | doom0r | Introducing GameFuel™ Priority Technology designed to provide the uninterrupted and latency-free gaming experience serious online gamers expect |
| 09:59.24 | FtH|Daemona | because i stupidly decided i needed draft_n and gbit lan, and that special router isnt implemented yet.... |
| 09:59.25 | quiesense | eh |
| 09:59.28 | FtH|Daemona | for over half a year |
| 09:59.30 | winkiller | prio on port 6667 |
| 09:59.51 | FtH|Daemona | \o/ lag free irc on default port |
| 09:59.53 | quiesense | the more commonly advertised stuff is um |
| 09:59.55 | winkiller | gaming router.. wtf |
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| 10:00.10 | doom0r | yup |
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| 10:00.26 | quiesense | usually advertised for usage with voip and vpns |
| 10:00.30 | doom0r | overconfigured router for average joe to go and brick every 3 months with updates |
| 10:00.32 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r148 modules/deathknightprocs.lua: Added Rune of the Fallen Crusader |
| 10:00.42 | doom0r | it's a great market |
| 10:00.52 | winkiller | muahaha, the ad text is brilliant |
| 10:00.55 | quiesense | like, mainstream routers tend to like to advertise their qos features for use with voip and stuff |
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| 10:01.30 | quiesense | presumably the gaming thing you're talking about is the same sort of thing, just different marketing |
| 10:01.43 | doom0r | it's prioritization |
| 10:02.19 | doom0r | the whole point in a "gaming router" is that they watch the market for the new hot shit games, and prioritize those over other things |
| 10:02.24 | winkiller | *sigh* |
| 10:02.36 | winkiller | bet you can sell every kind if crap to gamers |
| 10:02.42 | doom0r | you pay for a product that is EXACTLY the same as another, but has different firmware preconfigured |
| 10:02.43 | nevcairiel | you can :P |
| 10:03.00 | nevcairiel | but that doesnt limit itself to gamers |
| 10:03.04 | quiesense | low latency network cards to give you that edge against some other fps player rite |
| 10:03.09 | Kalroth | nev buys everything with the fatal1ty tag! |
| 10:03.10 | nevcairiel | you can sell anything to anybody |
| 10:03.17 | winkiller | feels the urge to install openwrt |
| 10:03.26 | quiesense | to go with your $300 audio cables for better quality |
| 10:03.32 | doom0r | i'd go with tomato just becasue the name is better |
| 10:03.40 | winkiller | quiesense: that nic with the 90 MHz cpu? that was ace, yea |
| 10:03.55 | quiesense | speaking of which |
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| 10:04.17 | Kalroth | I had an old Intel NIC with a 33mhz RISC cpu |
| 10:04.28 | winkiller | maybe it was 400 already. sec |
| 10:04.33 | quiescens | I seem to have missed my older self disconnecting |
| 10:04.46 | quiescens | mm, connection timed out |
| 10:04.48 | quiescens | how generic |
| 10:05.08 | winkiller | rom its custom-crafted K-Blade Thermaltake™ heatsink to its overclocked 400MHz Network Processing Unit (NPU), the Killer NIC M1 |
| 10:05.26 | winkiller | 400 |
| 10:05.33 | doom0r | http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/1197/virtual-dynamics-power-3-2000-profit-margin |
| 10:05.39 | harl | rawr! |
| 10:06.15 | FtH|Daemona | "winkiller: bet you can sell every kind if crap to gamers" go and google "killerNIC" ;) |
| 10:06.16 | doom0r | omgz, my 0's and 1's sound so much better |
| 10:06.24 | quiescens | such a helpful cat |
| 10:06.40 | winkiller | FtH|Daemona: read 4 lines above ;) |
| 10:06.53 | FtH|Daemona | yeah that scrolled in during my copy paste ;) |
| 10:06.58 | winkiller | hehe |
| 10:07.02 | winkiller | I NEED ONE!1 |
| 10:07.17 | Arrowmaster | FtH|Daemona: if you have a $150 cisco that cant prioitize acks then you got ripped off, my $50 linksys can |
| 10:07.26 | winkiller | actually I'd love to hack that thing up and have a webserver running on my 400 mhz NIC |
| 10:07.38 | FtH|Daemona | but hey, it can run bittorrent on the NICs NPU and save it to a usb attached storage winkiller |
| 10:07.47 | winkiller | or like.. el cheapo management interface, directly on the nic |
| 10:07.55 | FtH|Daemona | Arrowmaster go forward and tell me how to do it on a 610n ;) |
| 10:07.57 | quiescens | isn't linksys owned by cisco now |
| 10:08.03 | FtH|Daemona | its always been |
| 10:08.03 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:08.08 | Arrowmaster | not always |
| 10:08.08 | winkiller | yuck, me no want IOS |
| 10:08.11 | FtH|Daemona | linksys is the soho brand of cisco |
| 10:08.19 | quiescens | I don't think it was always |
| 10:08.36 | quiescens | it was fairly recently aquired or something |
| 10:08.36 | Arrowmaster | my linksys runs linux, thus i can do what ever the fuck i want |
| 10:08.37 | FtH|Daemona | it's been for at least 5 years |
| 10:08.39 | winkiller | inksys, founded in 1988 and acquired by Cisco Systems in 2003 |
| 10:08.50 | FtH|Daemona | seeh ;) |
| 10:08.56 | quiescens | iuno when they were separate |
| 10:08.57 | winkiller | you're both right :P |
| 10:09.12 | quiescens | but yeah, I do remember the aquisition in the news |
| 10:11.40 | doom0r | Pounce, Ravage, anything else require Prowl? |
| 10:12.44 | quiescens | moo |
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| 10:28.49 | doom0r | does a /cast macro adhere to selfcast modifiers without explicitly adding those to the macro? |
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| 10:31.20 | nevcairiel | i dont think so |
| 10:32.49 | doom0r | drood has too many abilities =\ |
| 10:33.11 | doom0r | wouldn't be so bad if i was max level and knew habits |
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| 10:40.54 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/aurahud/. AuraHUD. taleden (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 10:44.47 | Ironhand | is there a way in Grid to automatically show any and all "typeless" auras on players? (that is, debuffs that don't fall in one of the 4 normal dispel categories) |
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| 10:45.43 | Kalroth | Nev can approve projects? I'm going to make a Nevsux! project! |
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| 10:46.32 | doom0r | mm, a smart timers mod |
| 10:46.36 | doom0r | more or less |
| 10:46.40 | doom0r | interesting |
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| 10:50.26 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 10:50.46 | Fisker- | ckknight |
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| 10:50.50 | sylvanaar | that commit failed |
| 10:50.52 | Fisker- | i'm making fun of you |
| 10:51.19 | Fisker- | 2145884 XFX GeForce GX-285N-ZDFF, GDDR3, PCI-E 1 |
| 10:51.23 | Fisker- | That means i win the game |
| 10:51.44 | Fisker- | rawrs |
| 10:52.31 | Kalroth | pfft |
| 10:52.46 | Kalroth | 4870x2 here, get with the times! |
| 10:52.52 | Fisker- | SLI cards fail |
| 10:53.07 | Fisker- | or crossfire with ATI |
| 10:53.08 | Fisker- | also |
| 10:53.08 | Kalroth | not SLI, onboard dual core |
| 10:53.10 | Fisker- | ATi fails |
| 10:53.20 | Fisker- | Kalroth it's onboard SLI or in this case Crossfire |
| 10:53.26 | Fisker- | so it's still SLI/Crossfire |
| 10:54.10 | Kalroth | uh, no? |
| 10:54.16 | Fisker- | uh yes |
| 10:54.25 | Kalroth | It's two cores on the same PCB |
| 10:54.30 | Fisker- | I know |
| 10:54.42 | Fisker- | (Doesn't have to be the same PCB bw) |
| 10:54.53 | Fisker- | GTX 295 have 2 PCB's for example :P |
| 10:55.09 | Kalroth | eg. SLI then :) |
| 10:56.00 | Fisker- | It's both SLI/Crossfire |
| 10:56.14 | Kalroth | I meant the 295 |
| 10:56.22 | Fisker- | The GTX 295 could just have well been one PCB |
| 10:56.37 | Fisker- | just not something that makes sense from a thermal/space perspective |
| 10:57.10 | Kalroth | oh, it's only 285 you goy |
| 10:57.11 | Kalroth | got* |
| 10:57.14 | Kalroth | you cheap ass |
| 10:57.17 | Fisker- | ^^ |
| 10:57.26 | Fisker- | As i said SLI/Crossfire really sucks |
| 10:57.40 | Fisker- | unless you have a lot of mone to burn and displays to take advantage of it |
| 10:58.03 | Kalroth | e.g. if you're a cheap ass |
| 10:58.15 | Fisker- | nah |
| 10:58.31 | Mikk | doom0r: wuss. temperature is not a problem until it's the same in both F and C |
| 10:58.53 | Fisker- | :E? |
| 10:59.04 | doom0r | go stand outside in -F with 30+ mph wind |
| 10:59.14 | doom0r | shoves Mikk out the door |
| 10:59.23 | Mikk | you're talking to a northern swede |
| 10:59.38 | doom0r | i also see 100+ in the summer :P |
| 10:59.44 | doom0r | so, bite me |
| 11:00.00 | Fisker- | Mikk is a swede |
| 11:00.01 | doom0r | and 85%+ humidity |
| 11:00.01 | Fisker- | get him! |
| 11:00.01 | Mikk | i go out and fetch the newspaper in my T-shirt in -F for crying out loud :P |
| 11:00.14 | Mikk | ok not if it's 30+ mph winds i'll grant you that |
| 11:00.27 | doom0r | chicago gets 4 seasons in one day sometimes |
| 11:00.30 | thul | I have taken baths in minus 40 degrees celsius you pussies. |
| 11:00.30 | doom0r | hell |
| 11:00.32 | thul | VIKING UP! |
| 11:00.33 | doom0r | in 10 mins |
| 11:00.46 | Mikk | okay that is manly |
| 11:00.49 | Mikk | i can't counter that :P |
| 11:00.54 | Fisker- | pro-tip: |
| 11:00.57 | Mikk | (incidentally -40c == -40f) |
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| 11:01.07 | Fisker- | Shower -> jump into snow naked and do angels -> shower |
| 11:01.15 | Mikk | ew |
| 11:01.20 | Mikk | s/Shower/Sauna/ |
| 11:01.21 | thul | (it was not all that voluntary though, it was part of my survival training in the army... :-P ) |
| 11:01.21 | Fisker- | :D |
| 11:01.37 | Mikk | thul: mmm we only had -15 or something :P |
| 11:01.49 | Fisker- | bai tiems ;( |
| 11:01.53 | Fisker- | breaks ovar |
| 11:02.15 | thul | hehe, I was unlucky :/ that night, we had the "live without tent"-night too, and it was -50 c :-( I'm so glad natura has given me a lot of fur all over :-D |
| 11:02.24 | thul | btw, why is auctioneer so wildly bad at setting prices these days? |
| 11:02.42 | Mikk | depends on what model you use? |
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| 11:03.03 | Mikk | and what models you have installed |
| 11:03.38 | Mikk | i'll grant you, it doesn't react quickly enough to the fluctuations these days so it tends to set prices way too high |
| 11:03.59 | Repo | 10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r40 loc/Locals-enUS.lua: how many phrases will I see |
| 11:04.06 | Mikk | when i say fluctuation i mean "rapidly dropping down to sane levels from ridiculous levels" :P |
| 11:04.12 | thul | yeah, I have marked it down by 35-40 now |
| 11:04.14 | thul | see if that helps :-P |
| 11:04.19 | thul | (from market value, scanning each day) |
| 11:04.52 | thul | 35-40% that is |
| 11:04.55 | Mikk | nods |
| 11:05.21 | Mikk | at times like these, you wish there was a "trend" matcher |
| 11:05.28 | Mikk | but that'd require storing ridiculous amounts of data |
| 11:05.34 | doom0r | um |
| 11:05.41 | doom0r | isn't that was the wowecon module is for? |
| 11:05.48 | Mikk | lol no |
| 11:06.18 | Mikk | wowecon is roughly == wowhead prices |
| 11:06.32 | Mikk | i.e. averages over realms |
| 11:06.37 | doom0r | which shows trend |
| 11:06.40 | Mikk | or POSSIBLY from your own realm, if you have several wowecon users on it |
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| 11:06.50 | doom0r | even more so when viewing realm vs all |
| 11:07.25 | Mikk | what if your realm is one of the later ones in dropping the prices? it'd look like an uptrend then :P |
| 11:07.42 | doom0r | that's why you compare all vs self |
| 11:07.51 | Mikk | then what if yours is one of the earlier ones |
| 11:07.53 | doom0r | and have other things that show market in time slices |
| 11:08.10 | doom0r | a tool isn't a robot |
| 11:08.12 | doom0r | it's a tool |
| 11:08.14 | Mikk | indeed |
| 11:08.21 | Mikk | you need to know your local market is my point |
| 11:08.25 | doom0r | there's enough to build a mental model |
| 11:08.58 | doom0r | right, and wowecon is a way to view a global vs local difference, and when viewed repeatedly, shows trend |
| 11:09.05 | doom0r | ;x |
| 11:09.15 | thul | I should get Armageddon |
| 11:09.24 | Mikk | yup. and that works if you're only dealing with a couple of items - enough to keep in your head |
| 11:09.38 | Mikk | if you're scanning for things to buy, it hurts your head :P |
| 11:09.42 | doom0r | nonsense |
| 11:09.50 | doom0r | i know most of the quests int he game in my head |
| 11:10.06 | doom0r | and i've stopped playing twice =\ |
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| 11:10.39 | thul | in that case, where are the wyrmrestd ailies? :-P |
| 11:11.01 | doom0r | i've only done 2 |
| 11:11.05 | doom0r | the one at the temple |
| 11:11.13 | doom0r | soon as i did achievement i've never done it again |
| 11:11.17 | many | theres one in coldarra on a platform |
| 11:11.18 | doom0r | can burn in hell |
| 11:11.28 | doom0r | aces high |
| 11:11.33 | doom0r | never finished it |
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| 11:11.36 | many | yep |
| 11:11.38 | Repo | - added ruRU localization |
| 11:11.40 | doom0r | there's also one in the bubble there |
| 11:11.47 | doom0r | to go capture a drake whelpling |
| 11:11.48 | many | its pretty easy though |
| 11:11.49 | thul | i want to upgrade my status :-P |
| 11:12.29 | many | ah, thats easy too |
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| 11:15.02 | thul | to get some easy tankinggear to get above crittable. |
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| 11:18.43 | sylvanaar | since you guys are talking about it. what models do you use |
| 11:20.30 | doom0r | yes |
| 11:20.43 | sylvanaar | no |
| 11:20.52 | doom0r | yesss |
| 11:21.29 | doom0r | i use marketvalue and stddev as data sources |
| 11:21.45 | doom0r | i don't let that set prices much though |
| 11:21.55 | doom0r | typically decide where the market should be and judge accordingly |
| 11:22.05 | doom0r | those just tell me where it IS |
| 11:22.18 | sylvanaar | i use histogram and market. |
| 11:22.41 | doom0r | histogram is a PITA if you don't auction daily |
| 11:22.56 | doom0r | i do it in spurts |
| 11:23.58 | sylvanaar | typically though the model is not relevant because i have undercutting on |
| 11:24.11 | doom0r | ewwww |
| 11:24.32 | doom0r | omg, there's 239084982423 up there, mine didn't sell, better cut it 30 more % |
| 11:24.39 | doom0r | i see that too much =\\ |
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| 11:24.47 | sylvanaar | yeah, im not that dumb |
| 11:24.55 | doom0r | doesn't matter, others affect you |
| 11:25.03 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 11:25.13 | doom0r | and i'm too lazy/interested in spending time doing other things, than to sit there and mold a new market |
| 11:25.22 | sylvanaar | same |
| 11:26.21 | sylvanaar | but i can scan frequently |
| 11:26.30 | sylvanaar | in another wow session |
| 11:30.33 | Mikk | when i scanned more often (2-3 times a day), i went with -purchased and had match-beancount set up so it always had me +10% over market |
| 11:30.45 | Mikk | but that only works when you scan enough to get -purchased to update well |
| 11:31.14 | Mikk | now i typically go with -market for stuff i actually sell |
| 11:31.24 | Mikk | but i keep -purchased for bargain scanning |
| 11:31.29 | Mikk | (as the default that is) |
| 11:31.31 | sylvanaar | more often than not - im just overloaded with information |
| 11:32.00 | sb|work | hm, are there still all those silly dependencies? |
| 11:32.06 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 11:32.07 | sb|work | in auctionerr |
| 11:32.09 | sb|work | meh :( |
| 11:32.28 | Mikk | silly dependencies? |
| 11:32.31 | Mikk | just download the zip oO |
| 11:32.57 | sylvanaar | he means "how do i turn all this back on now that i turned it off" |
| 11:33.34 | sb|work | EnhTooltip, Informant, Enchantrix, .... |
| 11:33.57 | doom0r | would be nice if they would fix Dash so it has Requires Cat Form so it fades when not in cat |
| 11:34.25 | Mikk | just set your errorframe to fade faster |
| 11:34.33 | doom0r | enhtooltip isn't used anymore |
| 11:34.42 | doom0r | now it's Tem's LibExtraTip |
| 11:34.54 | Mikk | same deal :o) |
| 11:34.54 | sylvanaar | huh |
| 11:35.04 | doom0r | enchantrix is not required, Informant can be turned off |
| 11:35.23 | Mikk | yeah it all depends on what info you want |
| 11:35.23 | doom0r | no, not error frame |
| 11:35.33 | sylvanaar | why doesnt auctioneer provide a menu for all its parts |
| 11:35.34 | doom0r | the actual slot fade |
| 11:35.44 | doom0r | so it's not lit up when i can't use it |
| 11:35.50 | Mikk | ah |
| 11:35.55 | doom0r | what do you mean sylvanaar? |
| 11:36.06 | nevcairiel | it does in that sidebar |
| 11:36.13 | doom0r | slidebar |
| 11:36.15 | Mikk | do you mean when downloading? |
| 11:36.36 | sylvanaar | like, oh, you have enchantrix installed, but its disabled, so im going to show you a greyed out icon |
| 11:36.56 | sylvanaar | or beancounter |
| 11:37.04 | doom0r | if enchantrix is off, it doesn't show up in slidebar for me |
| 11:37.23 | sylvanaar | or anything else that came in the zip |
| 11:37.37 | doom0r | you're not using the outdated release are you? |
| 11:37.55 | Mikk | if you're manually going in disabling components, i'd assume you know what you're disabling |
| 11:38.08 | Mikk | i wouldnt be arsed scannign for disabled components myself |
| 11:38.30 | Mikk | especially since that would require the core to be aware of all submodules rather than the other way around |
| 11:39.21 | sylvanaar | i guess that makes sense bottom up |
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| 11:42.41 | sylvanaar | i think i keep addons installed and disabled because i dont want to exit the game to enable them |
| 11:43.09 | sylvanaar | i guess most people are different |
| 11:43.43 | Mikk | yeah but then you hopefully use MCP/ACP |
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| 11:43.49 | sylvanaar | i do |
| 11:43.57 | doom0r | speaking of which |
| 11:44.12 | doom0r | ACP has some grouping issues still |
| 11:44.15 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 11:44.50 | sylvanaar | it also loses addons in group-by-name too |
| 11:45.06 | doom0r | ya, i use default and even there the grouping issue arises |
| 11:45.18 | sylvanaar | that is group by name |
| 11:45.42 | doom0r | i meant the setting: Default |
| 11:46.22 | sylvanaar | what grouping does default do again? |
| 11:46.32 | doom0r | wtf to installed and disabled, some packages that you may update occasionally, it's nice to just update and not have to toggle off/remove things you don't want on |
| 11:46.48 | doom0r | makes it like the one in char screen |
| 11:47.06 | doom0r | _the_ Default layout |
| 11:47.24 | sylvanaar | i know, i was asking what grouping it did |
| 11:47.33 | doom0r | oh |
| 11:47.42 | doom0r | none |
| 11:47.53 | doom0r | or you mean what am i experiencing an issue with? |
| 11:48.00 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 11:48.09 | doom0r | cart2, quartz modules |
| 11:48.40 | sylvanaar | what about them? |
| 11:49.03 | doom0r | when you save a set, then load, it turns on parts that weren't on when you saved |
| 11:49.13 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 11:49.46 | doom0r | s/load/load a set/ |
| 11:53.14 | sylvanaar | its possible that the old flag "load LoD siblings" is on |
| 11:53.46 | sylvanaar | i removed the checkbox, but the option is still there |
| 11:55.31 | sylvanaar | ~ /acp nochildren |
| 11:56.37 | sylvanaar | im sure thats your problem |
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| 11:59.12 | hugo | hi |
| 11:59.33 | doom0r | sylvanaar: toggle set it to false |
| 11:59.37 | doom0r | default was enabled |
| 12:00.12 | sylvanaar | too many negations |
| 12:00.55 | doom0r | ? |
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| 12:01.56 | Fisker- | baw |
| 12:02.00 | sylvanaar | idk, it does 2 different things |
| 12:02.28 | sylvanaar | 1) If you enable an addon with LoD dependencies/x-embeds it enabled them |
| 12:02.33 | Fisker- | idk my bff jill? |
| 12:03.14 | sylvanaar | 2) If you enable an addon which has LoD dependants, it enables all of them |
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| 12:03.42 | sylvanaar | 2 is the same as enabling the addon while its collapsed |
| 12:04.41 | sylvanaar | during set loading nochildren and norecurse are both false |
| 12:07.52 | sylvanaar | wait |
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| 12:12.36 | sylvanaar | dunno, i guess i'd need more info, it could be alot of things |
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| 12:17.13 | doom0r | it was the children |
| 12:18.37 | sylvanaar | i think that behavior was added for carto originally |
| 12:18.38 | doom0r | enable_lod_dependants happens because nochildren has no value by default, hence being Children on |
| 12:18.59 | sylvanaar | right |
| 12:19.50 | doom0r | but a load should be definitive |
| 12:20.48 | sylvanaar | see, you are wrong |
| 12:20.48 | doom0r | i think the problem is it's not elegant |
| 12:21.04 | doom0r | ? |
| 12:21.49 | sylvanaar | those 2 behaviors handle cases where modules may come and go |
| 12:22.03 | sylvanaar | and dependancies are added and removed |
| 12:22.45 | doom0r | if one defines a set, they should expect nothing but what's enabled in that set to be loaded |
| 12:23.22 | sylvanaar | the load was definitive in that you told it to load "Quartz" |
| 12:23.28 | doom0r | no, i told it to load my saved set with 287 specific addons |
| 12:23.36 | doom0r | not more |
| 12:23.58 | doom0r | i didn't click, quartz enabled |
| 12:24.06 | doom0r | i loaded a set |
| 12:24.07 | sylvanaar | right, i know but that option was on |
| 12:24.54 | doom0r | right, i'm not seeing the point in defaulting on though |
| 12:25.01 | sylvanaar | nor am i |
| 12:25.29 | doom0r | if a user installed a new addon/module and it's enabled in the char screen, or they disable something in the char screen |
| 12:25.40 | doom0r | ACP does not manage it until a set is loaded/saved |
| 12:25.59 | doom0r | so it really doesn't mimick the default behavior |
| 12:27.53 | doom0r | shouldn't really happen in the load actions, but rather, that seems like it should have been the opposite of recursive in the selection panel for when things aren't grouped |
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| 12:28.11 | doom0r | but that's really just a choice between micromanaging or not, could go either way |
| 12:28.25 | sylvanaar | right |
| 12:28.36 | doom0r | just think off would be a sane default |
| 12:34.08 | sylvanaar | it would |
| 12:34.39 | sylvanaar | im not sure why it isnt really |
| 12:35.02 | sylvanaar | seems like it used to be |
| 12:35.42 | sylvanaar | but, all the history is gone in the repo |
| 12:40.58 | sylvanaar | oh, i see, the default value was true, it was just set when the checkbox was initialized |
| 12:41.17 | sylvanaar | and i took the checkbox out |
| 12:46.31 | doom0r | ;x |
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| 12:54.26 | Fisker- | am srs |
| 12:54.51 | sacarasc | lies |
| 12:55.03 | Fisker- | ;( |
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| 13:10.36 | Cheadstina | best ranked Enhancement Shaman, according to sk-gaming arena ranking, is ranked 1907. Guess there's no easy-mode for me there =) |
| 13:11.15 | Industrial | enh in arena atm is |
| 13:11.18 | Industrial | ear pve |
| 13:11.27 | Industrial | pop hero wolves and shamrage |
| 13:11.33 | Industrial | nuke the fuck out of the healer |
| 13:11.35 | Industrial | or clothe |
| 13:11.42 | Industrial | and hten look around ;P |
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| 13:12.07 | Industrial | I need some help with my enhancement gear |
| 13:12.12 | Industrial | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Vashj&n=Xamth |
| 13:12.19 | Industrial | I have no WWS to link with this gear |
| 13:12.23 | Industrial | monday nax :< |
| 13:12.37 | Industrial | we just did sartharion 3 drakes + malygos (cause we had time) yesterday |
| 13:12.42 | Industrial | so we have today off =D |
| 13:13.13 | Cheadstina | was just surprised that there isn't a better arena enh shaman |
| 13:13.38 | doom0r | get some cloth int gear |
| 13:13.49 | doom0r | ;x |
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| 13:14.08 | Industrial | doom0r: .. |
| 13:14.27 | Industrial | also wrong channel, LOL |
| 13:14.42 | Industrial | that was supposed to be in the shammy chan :< |
| 13:14.45 | doom0r | mmk, steal hunter/druid gear |
| 13:15.40 | Industrial | I dont steal gear, I earn it |
| 13:15.41 | Industrial | ;p |
| 13:15.45 | doom0r | or you could reroll pally and have those stats with much less epics :P |
| 13:15.53 | many | theres no druid gear. only pala and huntard |
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| 13:17.18 | Industrial | doom0r: yes pally takes skill |
| 13:17.23 | doom0r | i should probably try and sleep so i wake up while the sun's still semi-up and it's slightly above 0 |
| 13:17.33 | doom0r | indeed it does |
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| 13:22.49 | pentium166 | i'm rocking the 1400s with my enh/warrior team, woo |
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| 13:52.28 | pentium166 | resto druid? |
| 13:52.32 | pentium166 | or feral |
| 13:54.09 | chexsum_ | feral/resto |
| 13:54.24 | pentium166 | er |
| 13:54.32 | chexsum_ | healer but with lockdown and survival |
| 13:54.35 | pentium166 | oh |
| 13:54.58 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r66 GridStatusMana.lua: GridManaBars: |
| 13:55.01 | Repo | - fixed bug in "UpdateAllUnits()"-method |
| 13:55.04 | Repo | - used grids "GetGUIDByFullName()"-method instead of own name-realm detection |
| 13:56.09 | Industrial | hm, how do I compress a frapsed avi to 1gb for youtube? :\ its 2.2gb now |
| 13:56.26 | pentium166 | weren't people saying that the ilvl 200 arena weapons were being put in? |
| 13:56.40 | Repo | 10grid-status-control-pipes: 03Julith * r34 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridStatusControlPipes: |
| 13:56.43 | Repo | - updated to use unitGUIDs |
| 13:56.45 | Repo | - updated toc |
| 13:57.04 | Jygga | waaah whoh voted for that grid tab thing above the unitframeblocks? |
| 13:57.13 | Jygga | and why cant i disable it |
| 13:57.29 | Julith | lock the frame and it will dissapear |
| 13:57.41 | doom0r | then type /facepalm |
| 13:58.43 | Jygga | i did |
| 13:58.49 | Jygga | and it was good |
| 13:59.10 | Jygga | the people were satisfied and went home |
| 13:59.18 | Jygga | the end |
| 13:59.22 | chexsum_ | to fornicate |
| 13:59.29 | pastamancer | in bed |
| 13:59.29 | chexsum_ | doh@the end |
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| 14:01.33 | Jygga | by popular request: as everyone went to bed to cuddle a faint DOH! was heard from the maniacs workshop |
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| 14:06.01 | Jygga | can i make the unitframe ensalada grow to the left? |
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| 14:06.51 | pastamancer | ensalada, enchalada, ensalida? |
| 14:08.28 | ZealotOnAStick | When did they start serving salads to unit frames? |
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| 14:12.35 | pastamancer | Disposicion -> Avanzado -> Ancla de la disposicion -> ARRIBADERECHA |
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| 14:14.11 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r67 GridStatusMana.lua: GridManaBars: |
| 14:14.14 | Repo | - finally made it work with runic power...that was quick, eh? |
| 14:16.54 | doom0r | mmm, enchaladas |
| 14:17.27 | ZealotOnAStick | except it's "enchiladas" |
| 14:17.48 | doom0r | meh, cba to care atm |
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| 14:28.33 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1863 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 14:30.52 | Fisker- | oooh Kaelten |
| 14:30.57 | Fisker- | if only you could understand danish |
| 14:31.18 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 14:31.31 | pastamancer | does anyone really understand the danish? |
| 14:31.41 | vhaarr | not even danes understand danish |
| 14:32.05 | Fisker- | fu |
| 14:32.16 | Fisker- | There was some show here |
| 14:32.27 | Fisker- | and someone called in and "won" a prize |
| 14:32.32 | Zyndrome | where no one understood each other |
| 14:32.41 | Fisker- | Then she thought the she on the TV wasn't her, and started getting all confused |
| 14:32.42 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 14:33.49 | Megalon | gus hansen is a dane |
| 14:33.55 | Megalon | at least one positive thing from there :p |
| 14:34.45 | doom0r | well, if i thought the me on the tv wasn't me, i'd be confused too |
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| 14:37.35 | Tigerdyr | chuckles a bit @fisker's reverse DNS hostname. |
| 14:45.17 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer 041.30000.2009011501 * r1137 : Welcome to the Grid unitguid release. |
| 14:45.19 | Repo | Please update any status or layout addons you use with Grid. |
| 14:45.22 | Repo | Some translations are incomplete. |
| 14:47.13 | Kalroth | omgz |
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| 14:50.31 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith 04release of 0.4 * r13 : Tagging as release of 0.4 |
| 14:50.41 | Fisker- | makes love to pastamancer |
| 14:52.02 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith 04v0.85 * r68 : Tagging as v0.85 |
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| 14:55.52 | ckknight | pretty cool (SFW): http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232029227446.jpg |
| 14:59.35 | Iboong | http://blameitonthevoices.blogspot.com/2009/01/grandmas-surprise-birthday-present.html |
| 14:59.47 | sacarasc | Chaotic good is wrong |
| 15:00.18 | thul | I'm organized evil. |
| 15:01.19 | ckknight | sacarasc: yea, I felt they got their evils mixed up |
| 15:01.30 | ckknight | WoW doesn't really have a Chaotic Evil |
| 15:01.34 | ckknight | well, maybe the old gods |
| 15:01.37 | ckknight | but even then |
| 15:01.39 | Stanzilla | http://i43.tinypic.com/2vj7u3c.png nom nom nom |
| 15:01.40 | ckknight | they'd be more Lawful Evil |
| 15:01.52 | Stanzilla | (sfw) |
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| 15:03.31 | ckknight | ...does WoW have a real chaotic evil presence? |
| 15:04.04 | Repo | 10grid-status-hostile-unit: 03StingerSoft * r45 GridStatusHostileUnit.lua: GridStatusHostileUnit: |
| 15:04.05 | Repo | - ruRU update |
| 15:04.09 | ckknight | oh well |
| 15:04.36 | thul | far too skinny legs Stanzilla |
| 15:04.48 | ckknight | once you move beyond personal interaction and onto inter-state relations, the whole law/chaos, good/evil thing becomes far too blurry to make much sense anymore |
| 15:04.53 | Stanzilla | it's lara croft. she's always been like that |
| 15:05.20 | thul | I dislike skinny legs. |
| 15:05.36 | thul | ckknight: "good" and "evil" are arbitrary in many senses anyway, sadly. |
| 15:05.41 | ckknight | true |
| 15:05.52 | ckknight | I don't believe in right and wrong either, though |
| 15:05.56 | ckknight | but I might be a fringe case |
| 15:06.07 | ckknight | all we have are actions and consequences |
| 15:06.25 | thul | well, I don't believe in a 100% moral relativistic system. I think we logically and rationally can find "good" and "not so good" solutions and even "bad" solutions. |
| 15:07.08 | ckknight | I think the lines are almost always too gray to make a distinction |
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| 15:07.16 | doom0r | ckknight: Ragnaros |
| 15:07.22 | ckknight | and one person's perspective may throw the whole thing out of whack |
| 15:07.34 | thul | well, I think one has a black on one end, white on the other end and different shades of grey inbetween |
| 15:08.02 | thul | it is easy to find explicitly evil acts and good acts and contrasting them is easy, but if 1 is good and 100 is evil, it is harder to value 54 and 61 up towards each other. |
| 15:08.05 | ckknight | I think trying to map it linearly is foolish |
| 15:08.09 | thul | I guess i think as a photographer :-P |
| 15:08.15 | thul | well, of course, but it is an analogy |
| 15:08.33 | thul | and actions that are right in one context can be wrong in other ocntexsts. |
| 15:08.41 | ckknight | right |
| 15:09.01 | ckknight | any one action has multiple consequences |
| 15:09.15 | ckknight | and it is those consequences that must be judged |
| 15:09.16 | thul | yes. Saving a lot of children today, will overpopulate the planet tomorrow. |
| 15:09.22 | gix | thul: well that shot looks rather bad imo :P maybe it's the angle |
| 15:09.29 | ckknight | but different perspectives will see said consequences in different lights |
| 15:09.32 | thul | gix: what shot? the lare one? |
| 15:09.39 | gix | yeah |
| 15:09.41 | thul | ckknight: of course, that is the complex problem :-D |
| 15:09.44 | Fisker- | <-lawful evil |
| 15:09.47 | thul | gix: i just dislike the picture |
| 15:09.49 | thul | at all :-P |
| 15:09.54 | thul | but then aain, I like fit girls :-D |
| 15:09.55 | thul | fiiite |
| 15:10.02 | gix | lara is fit |
| 15:10.11 | gix | especially in tru |
| 15:10.22 | ckknight | Lara Croft would have horrible, horrible back problems |
| 15:10.24 | thul | not the kind of fit I like :-P |
| 15:10.28 | ckknight | boobs are gigantic for her body |
| 15:10.30 | thul | I like healthyfitstrong |
| 15:10.40 | thul | do a google search for "jamie eason" |
| 15:10.41 | gix | ckknight: she has strong muscles! |
| 15:10.41 | thul | that is my kind of ti |
| 15:10.43 | thul | fit |
| 15:10.48 | thul | I'm quite along in liking her i guess |
| 15:10.49 | thul | but i do :-P |
| 15:11.04 | ckknight | thul: she looks nice |
| 15:11.23 | gix | those manly arms don't fit |
| 15:12.18 | thul | I guess my perspective (ha ha :-P ) is scewed beacause i work out with female strongwomen and powerlifters. |
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| 15:14.53 | gix | still a wuss compared to lara! |
| 15:15.31 | thul | hehe, she would eat lara alive:P |
| 15:15.44 | thul | lifting and fighting with good lifters and fighters destroys a realistic perspective |
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| 15:18.14 | thul | ckknight: I never get tired of thinking about right/wrong and the philosophy around this though |
| 15:18.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 15:18.45 | ckknight | well, I mean, I see right and wrong, but I don't see them as standing on their own, as most people do |
| 15:18.52 | Fisker- | ckknight my friend |
| 15:19.01 | ckknight | I see them merely as composite reactions derived out of consequence |
| 15:19.06 | ckknight | Fisker-: yes? |
| 15:19.13 | steev | thul: what am i congratulating you for? |
| 15:19.13 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 15:19.18 | thul | well, they seldom do. at work i sometimes have to inflict pain on people.. right? wrong? etc. |
| 15:19.22 | thul | steev: ebon blade exalted :-P |
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| 15:19.26 | ckknight | thul: also, I tend not to take intent into consideration |
| 15:19.28 | steev | specially when i don't connect to irc after work |
| 15:19.38 | steev | since i run it in a screen session here at work |
| 15:19.42 | thul | ckknight: well, I do and I don't. |
| 15:19.52 | steev | thul: nice, congrats |
| 15:19.56 | ckknight | I don't think intent is worth a damn, results are important |
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| 15:20.14 | thul | if I Get the sun in my eyes and run over a pregnant women, I should not be judged as harshly as the ex-boyfriend doing it with intent. |
| 15:20.18 | thul | or, that is my way of viewing it. |
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| 15:21.21 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): MTarget: fix up no working stuff! |
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| 15:22.35 | ckknight | thul: ah, yea, I mean more for non-criminal actions |
| 15:23.05 | ckknight | also, she had it coming |
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| 15:24.05 | doom0r | should have been washing it instead of standing in front of its path |
| 15:24.17 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth * r64 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Implement enable callbacks |
| 15:25.26 | thul | ckknight: hmm, what kind of actions? like on a personal level or government level? |
| 15:25.30 | thul | if the last, I think I partially agree |
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| 15:34.54 | gix | i should clean up my tinypad more often. i found at least 3 triviabot-bots |
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| 15:36.01 | doom0r | i need an onscreen todo list |
| 15:36.26 | AckisWork | doom0r: I found a mod like that in BC, didn't work all that well for me however |
| 15:36.42 | doom0r | needs to be on screen all the time though |
| 15:36.52 | doom0r | torta, was checklist? |
| 15:37.06 | AckisWork | yah it was a list on screen |
| 15:37.14 | AckisWork | wowace svn methinks |
| 15:38.17 | doom0r | ya, i need something that's an OSD, not a frame blocking half your screen |
| 15:38.31 | doom0r | something like monkeyquest that's populated by something like torta |
| 15:38.52 | AckisWork | iirc it was a fubar enabled too |
| 15:39.07 | thul | hmm, I kind of want a summilux-r 50 |
| 15:39.11 | doom0r | @project checklist2 |
| 15:39.12 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/checklist2/. Checklist2. Game: WoW. Status: Out of date. Quezacolt (Manager/Author). Updated: 108 days ago |
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| 15:39.20 | AckisWork | doom0r: that was the one |
| 15:39.20 | doom0r | is now becoming |
| 15:39.25 | doom0r | @project torta |
| 15:39.27 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/torta/. Torta. Game: WoW. Quezacolt (Manager/Author). Updated: 40 days ago. Tickets: 1/1 |
| 15:39.42 | AckisWork | oh |
| 15:39.43 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:40.16 | doom0r | nothing to give me a, hey jagoff, you got stuff to do |
| 15:40.16 | doom0r | yet |
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| 15:41.04 | *** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 15:41.25 | AckisWork | morning ckknight |
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| 15:42.32 | AckisWork | anyone know of a mod for the dalaran book spawn timers? |
| 15:42.48 | doom0r | as of yet, no |
| 15:42.57 | doom0r | all you really could have is last time |
| 15:43.18 | AckisWork | last time seen, estimated time, sharing of times |
| 15:43.38 | AckisWork | pathing, which to camp, etc |
| 15:43.54 | doom0r | timeframe from last spawn til next is huge |
| 15:44.01 | AckisWork | 3-4 hours |
| 15:44.03 | doom0r | anywhere from 3 to 5+ hours |
| 15:44.14 | AckisWork | sure it's 5? |
| 15:44.21 | doom0r | on occasion it gets up there |
| 15:45.11 | gix | auto-move and auto-read please |
| 15:45.35 | Megalon | lf glider profile für dalaran books! |
| 15:45.49 | AckisWork | rofl |
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| 15:46.36 | AckisWork | you know of the two thingsi n the game that would make me bot, the books is one of the... the other is the rare fish that I need for my salty title |
| 15:46.42 | doom0r | how would i find what would be the third vertice of an equilateral triangle that's center is center on a color wheel? |
| 15:47.00 | doom0r | meh, i'll do the rare fish |
| 15:47.07 | doom0r | i just need the damn tourney done |
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| 15:49.49 | doom0r | or point that has same distance from center as two other points, but is equidistant from those |
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| 15:51.13 | Megalon | line between center an point #1 |
| 15:51.18 | Megalon | mirror point #2 with the line |
| 15:51.19 | Megalon | done |
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| 15:53.23 | Fisker- | http://i39.tinypic.com/20ihyf.jpg :3 |
| 15:53.49 | Kaelten | I need someone who uses the curse client on XP to help me test something with a preview version of beta1 |
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| 15:56.39 | Fisker- | You need someone on Windows 7 as well |
| 15:56.40 | Fisker- | ololol |
| 15:57.46 | steev | Kaelten: does it require having wow installed? |
| 15:57.54 | Kaelten | steev: nope |
| 15:58.08 | steev | machine to my right has xp |
| 15:58.12 | steev | er left |
| 15:58.12 | steev | wtf |
| 15:58.18 | Kaelten | I just need a screenshot of it once it's running and logged in |
| 15:58.20 | steev | right is my laptop definitely not running xp |
| 15:58.23 | steev | kk |
| 15:59.27 | steev | gonna throw me an earl? (god i hate when my customers pronounce it that way) |
| 15:59.36 | Fisker- | EARL PLX |
| 15:59.37 | Fisker- | EAAAAAARL |
| 15:59.57 | Kaelten | styep check your pms steev |
| 16:00.07 | Fisker- | styep? |
| 16:00.17 | Kaelten | steev |
| 16:00.18 | krka | my name is url |
| 16:00.25 | Fisker- | baww? |
| 16:00.27 | steev | "Hay Steeev, I'm having a problem with this Earl...." "Uh, earl? whos that?" "No, earl, earl, you know, a website address?" |
| 16:00.45 | steev | OH, you mean U R L |
| 16:00.45 | ckknight | you-are-ell |
| 16:00.51 | steev | Yeah, I mean earl |
| 16:00.56 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.59 | Fisker- | I am not ell ckknight |
| 16:01.00 | Fisker- | fuck you |
| 16:01.01 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:01.04 | ckknight | yes you are |
| 16:01.12 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 16:01.14 | ckknight | now sit down, shut up, and be ell |
| 16:04.54 | Fisker- | steev |
| 16:05.00 | Fisker- | if Kaelten says you can't give out links |
| 16:05.03 | Fisker- | then disregard that |
| 16:05.10 | Fisker- | he's mentally unstable etc. |
| 16:06.48 | ckknight | lol |
| 16:07.01 | steev | Fisker-: hrm |
| 16:07.01 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r8 / (2 files in 1 directory): Quick interim checkin while I switch environments. Ignore. |
| 16:07.06 | steev | i thought Kaelten was female :( |
| 16:07.21 | ckknight | no |
| 16:07.25 | ckknight | he's quite male |
| 16:07.30 | steev | also, nothing was said about not giving out links |
| 16:07.33 | steev | *shrug* |
| 16:07.40 | steev | i just consider everyone on the internet female |
| 16:07.52 | ckknight | I consider everyone amorphous blobs |
| 16:07.54 | ckknight | until I meet them |
| 16:07.56 | pastamancer | that must make it very entertaining |
| 16:08.05 | ckknight | pastamancer's an amorphous blob |
| 16:08.11 | ckknight | afaik |
| 16:08.19 | pastamancer | I have a beard |
| 16:08.48 | ckknight | amorphous blob with a beard, then |
| 16:08.49 | ckknight | likely male |
| 16:09.03 | Fisker- | nice |
| 16:09.08 | ckknight | seems to have good ideas wrt databases |
| 16:09.08 | Fisker- | i'm pretty much pastamancer |
| 16:09.19 | AckisWork | no Fisker- you're a dumbass |
| 16:09.43 | Fisker- | That window you're looking out off |
| 16:09.46 | Fisker- | of* |
| 16:09.48 | Fisker- | that's actually a mirror |
| 16:09.55 | Fisker- | AckisWork gets confused :3 |
| 16:10.01 | AckisWork | a window? |
| 16:10.02 | AckisWork | lol |
| 16:10.07 | AckisWork | yah I'm looking out a window... at you |
| 16:10.15 | Fisker- | He hasn't gotten to the stage in life where he becomes aware of his own mirror image |
| 16:10.51 | Fisker- | makes a cuddly wuddly red dot on AckisWork's nose so he can learn |
| 16:10.52 | Stanzilla | I heard mirror images reduce threat |
| 16:10.55 | Stanzilla | that true, Fisker-? |
| 16:11.10 | Fisker- | by over 9000 Stanzilla |
| 16:11.55 | Fisker- | btw |
| 16:12.01 | Fisker- | Radio hosts failed over 9000 |
| 16:12.16 | Fisker- | Because they said 9000 and not over 9000 |
| 16:13.05 | p4aved | how hard would it b to write a data broker plugin that tracked the number of debuffs on the current target? |
| 16:13.41 | Fisker- | Why don't you try and see? |
| 16:14.14 | p4aved | i spose i should do that than |
| 16:21.42 | steev | so |
| 16:21.53 | steev | i have a fairly fail/funny story about heroic nexus |
| 16:22.11 | steev | enh shaman, holy pally, dps dk, frost mage, dk tank (myself) |
| 16:22.20 | steev | we've done the ice cube call |
| 16:22.24 | steev | hall* |
| 16:22.36 | steev | we do the pat |
| 16:23.21 | steev | the first group of 4 elves, we're fighting, enh shaman throws hex on one of em, don't bother with sheep cuz there are 2 dks |
| 16:23.21 | steev | BAM |
| 16:23.21 | steev | healer goes down |
| 16:23.35 | steev | enh shaman throws a few heals, but im really not taking much damage |
| 16:23.59 | steev | after we down em... the dps dk is like hay gais, check out muh buffs |
| 16:24.23 | steev | yeah... holy pally had di'd him |
| 16:24.35 | Thrae | Quick, DI the Mages! |
| 16:24.44 | steev | the best part |
| 16:24.54 | steev | remember - there is only *one* pally in the group |
| 16:24.59 | steev | HE DENIES IT |
| 16:25.16 | steev | NO I DIDN'T |
| 16:25.27 | steev | Uh, you're the only person who can DI... |
| 16:25.33 | steev | IT WASN'T ME I DIDN'T DO IT |
| 16:25.43 | p4aved | logic is overated |
| 16:25.55 | steev | after a few seconds of us cracking up about it |
| 16:26.00 | steev | he finally says, maybe i misclicked |
| 16:26.06 | Jygga | is there some multiple guild gbank bagnonforever style addon ? |
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| 16:30.36 | steev | that would be nice |
| 16:31.03 | dodga | Hm I wonder if GridAlert will still be working when I update to the guid version |
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| 16:42.16 | Stanzilla | I just died in northrend, I am at the spirit healer in westfall and my corpse is in alterac |
| 16:42.17 | Stanzilla | wtf? |
| 16:42.41 | Zao | Must've been a rather hard blow. |
| 16:42.56 | Fisker- | old |
| 16:43.06 | Stanzilla | Fisker-: known bug? |
| 16:43.19 | AckisWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw-IAYxu5uo |
| 16:43.23 | Fisker- | not a "bug" |
| 16:43.25 | dodga | hm pastamancer really removed the "show party in raid" setting in Grid. I iz teh sadness :\ |
| 16:43.27 | Fisker- | it's a failsafe |
| 16:43.53 | Stanzilla | for? |
| 16:44.13 | Fisker- | When it doesn't have zone information to put you at a proper graveyard |
| 16:44.23 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 16:44.36 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03kunda * r175 Localization/deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 16:44.59 | Fisker- | For example if you fly far enough over the water you'll be put at the westfall graveyard |
| 16:45.24 | Fisker- | Or barrens if you're horde |
| 16:49.17 | Stanzilla | yeah, I was afk flying :> |
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| 16:51.14 | pastamancer | dodga: yup |
| 16:51.30 | pastamancer | it was a casualty of combining the code for groups and raids |
| 16:52.17 | EvilJohn- | what does the loss of the option mean? |
| 16:52.35 | thul | i want to hide my party window permanently |
| 16:52.52 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * 27124ee / (37 files in 13 directories): [+40 commits] (36 truncated) |
| 16:52.54 | Repo | 27124ee: pbtt: Major Layout changes, now actually use pb4 layouts properly, introduced minor bugs along with it |
| 16:52.57 | Repo | 70ce563: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/pitbull4/mainline.git |
| 16:52.59 | Repo | 17793a1: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.wowace.com/wow/pitbull4/mainline |
| 16:53.03 | Repo | 7fa35db: Fix an error while mousing over auras in config mode. |
| 16:53.43 | dodga | pastamancer: Is there a way to reenable that? |
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| 16:56.51 | Fisker- | am sad |
| 16:57.07 | thul | hugs Fisker- |
| 16:57.28 | Fisker- | am sadder |
| 16:57.32 | thul | :/ |
| 16:57.36 | Fisker- | :( |
| 16:57.40 | ckknight | so funny thing |
| 16:57.45 | ckknight | Fisker-, you'll appreciate this |
| 16:57.58 | ckknight | I'm working on the curseforge/wowace store |
| 16:58.04 | ckknight | and we call the curse points CP for short |
| 16:58.11 | ckknight | so items cost CP |
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| 16:58.30 | sacarasc | :o |
| 16:58.37 | sacarasc | CAPTAIN PICARD! |
| 16:58.53 | ckknight | not quite |
| 16:58.56 | ckknight | more along the lines of /b/ |
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| 16:59.11 | *** join/#wowace TheDeamon (i=TheDeamo@134.50.207.178) |
| 16:59.18 | sacarasc | yes, but that's because you like pictures of children |
| 16:59.27 | pastamancer | dodga: you could try adding a group with showParty = true |
| 16:59.29 | Fisker- | CP = Captain Picard |
| 16:59.34 | Fisker- | That's the secret codename for real CP |
| 16:59.36 | pastamancer | dodga: can't guarantee it'll work |
| 16:59.42 | ckknight | cartoon porn |
| 16:59.42 | dodga | bummer :\ |
| 16:59.44 | Torhal_ | CP == Celebrity Porn |
| 16:59.44 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:59.54 | dodga | I'll try later |
| 17:00.33 | TheDeamon | I don't know if you guys are aware of/responding to this thread in the Customer Service forum, but one of you guys might want to provide a more meaningful/useful response to it |
| 17:00.34 | TheDeamon | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14318907036&pageNo=1&sid=1#1 |
| 17:01.20 | TheDeamon | topic: Raiding and bandwidth ... and they're discussing addon (mis)behavior in relation to bandwidth use |
| 17:01.58 | girlyman | mourns the death of the TheDeamon |
| 17:02.07 | TheDeamon | flees |
| 17:02.11 | TheDeamon | =P |
| 17:02.18 | Fisker- | 20kB a second = 20000 characters a second |
| 17:02.23 | Fisker- | i'll go ahead and say no |
| 17:02.25 | Fisker- | just no |
| 17:02.36 | ckknight | that's a lot for addons to be sending |
| 17:03.01 | TheDeamon | Well the wow combat log itself would probably be a substantial amount of that |
| 17:03.36 | TheDeamon | As that can generate a 100+ meg file over the course of an hour as it is for a 25 man raid |
| 17:03.49 | TheDeamon | erm |
| 17:03.53 | TheDeamon | over the course of 4 hours |
| 17:04.21 | TheDeamon | most of which (obviously) happens only during combat. |
| 17:04.56 | steev | KEYLOGGER |
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| 17:05.56 | Fisker- | yeah TheDeamon |
| 17:06.06 | Fisker- | Just checking myself |
| 17:06.14 | Fisker- | my combatlog is around ~12,5kB/s |
| 17:06.27 | TheDeamon | Which isn't to mention that there are flooding constraints on addons, even when using the "non chat channels" to communicate |
| 17:06.42 | TheDeamon | which is why chat throttles are in use. |
| 17:06.52 | TheDeamon | Of course, that is an outbound only constraint. |
| 17:07.18 | TheDeamon | 25 people near their throttle limit talking to each other would produce a lot of downstream traffic |
| 17:07.30 | Fisker- | 24,3kB/s during patchwerk |
| 17:08.15 | Fisker- | quite a lot |
| 17:08.56 | TheDeamon | As I start citing Ackis in a channel he lurks in: http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatThrottleLib |
| 17:09.06 | Fisker- | I wonder if data is still sent if you disable the combat log |
| 17:09.15 | Fisker- | That could be an idea |
| 17:09.22 | TheDeamon | "I've found that a data rate of 3000 CPS will cause a disconnect if sustained for more than a few seconds." |
| 17:09.32 | TheDeamon | So 3K/s from addons total per player. |
| 17:10.09 | Fisker- | well obviously WoW is the culprit |
| 17:10.12 | TheDeamon | 25 people in a raid, you could potentially get up to 75K/second downstream from an addon if everyone in the raid was running that misbehaving addon |
| 17:10.13 | Fisker- | lets go troll the GM's |
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| 17:11.13 | AckisWork | TheDeamon: what'd I do? |
| 17:11.27 | TheDeamon | You did research =P |
| 17:11.36 | AckisWork | really? |
| 17:11.49 | TheDeamon | on how spammy addons(well, more specifically users) can get before being dropped from the servers in wow |
| 17:11.55 | Fisker- | He just stole it from someone else |
| 17:11.59 | AckisWork | I did? |
| 17:12.01 | TheDeamon | ...or at least, it looks like you did it, according to wiki |
| 17:12.07 | AckisWork | I'm so confused |
| 17:12.20 | Fisker- | puts a mirror in front of AckisWork |
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| 17:12.36 | TheDeamon | oh wait, its citing a cosmosui thread. |
| 17:12.38 | TheDeamon | nevermind |
| 17:12.51 | AckisWork | now i'm even more confused |
| 17:12.52 | Torhal_ | Feh: http://i40.tinypic.com/21c9phc.jpg |
| 17:12.57 | TheDeamon | ...a thread the no long exists |
| 17:13.02 | TheDeamon | that no longer* |
| 17:13.05 | Jygga | finally! that polar bear dropped ... |
| 17:15.34 | Fisker- | http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=l_k8ErIPZ0Y |
| 17:15.42 | Fisker- | wat Torhal ? |
| 17:15.57 | Torhal | Fisker-: Look at the driver of the car. |
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| 17:17.50 | Fisker- | exactly |
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| 17:22.03 | Gnarfoz | TheDeamon: it's funny how no-one in that thread seems to know about SendAddonMessage() |
| 17:22.38 | Gnarfoz | they're all assuming pre-...1.12? I dunno when those were introduced, actually |
| 17:22.58 | Gnarfoz | there's GUILD, RAID, PARTY and WHISPER, and you can't turn 'em off |
| 17:23.38 | Gnarfoz | and the number of addons actually using their own, named channel (which would be SendChatMessage and is horrible, but probably still the best solution for some cases) is probably quite small |
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| 17:24.43 | TheDeamon | Well, I just added a little bit to it, alluded to the addon channels but didn't go into depth. |
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| 17:28.28 | doom0r | TheDeamon: is katerina? |
| 17:28.35 | TheDeamon | Though they probably should really implement a method for people to block addon channels, as there are ways that people could be (unintentionally) evil during the course of a raid. |
| 17:28.40 | TheDeamon | yes, I am |
| 17:28.43 | doom0r | ;x |
| 17:29.39 | TheDeamon | such as: somebody in guild deciding to share their node database with someone else in guild while the rest of their guild is doing a boss fight in a 25 man raid. |
| 17:31.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1374 .docmeta: Add .docmeta |
| 17:31.30 | doom0r | say hi to burntchu when he's on next ;x |
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| 17:32.11 | Gnarfoz | TheDeamon: awesome idea. I will do that to disconnect our 3G user. :p |
| 17:32.41 | TheDeamon | Make sure its during Thaddius |
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| 17:35.07 | Gnarfoz | he normally disconnects on his own, anyway |
| 17:35.14 | Gnarfoz | boss fight go: dude gone |
| 17:37.13 | TheDeamon | Yeah, but Thaddius would probably D/C a couple other people for extra evil points. Of course, you'd probably be lynched later if they figure out who did it(well, that and I think you'd need more than just you doing it) but so is life. |
| 17:38.16 | Gnarfoz | meh, I'll lynch them for being scrubs, then |
| 17:38.17 | Gnarfoz | :p |
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| 17:41.25 | TheDeamon | what hapepned to addonspamfu anyhow, I can't seem to find it? |
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| 17:42.17 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1375 .docmeta: Update .docmeta |
| 17:43.28 | Gnarfoz | @project addon-spam-fu |
| 17:43.29 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'addon-spam-fu' |
| 17:43.32 | Gnarfoz | @project add-on-spam-fu |
| 17:43.34 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'add-on-spam-fu' |
| 17:43.40 | Gnarfoz | let me guess |
| 17:43.43 | Gnarfoz | @project fu-bar-add-on-spam-fu |
| 17:43.44 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'fu-bar-add-on-spam-fu' |
| 17:43.47 | Gnarfoz | grrr |
| 17:43.48 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 17:43.56 | doom0r | http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_addon-spam-fu/ |
| 17:44.14 | Gnarfoz | I was close! |
| 17:44.30 | doom0r | you wouldn't find it by that i think |
| 17:44.47 | doom0r | seems abandoned stuff is not turning up in search |
| 17:44.50 | TheDeamon | abandoned projects strikes again |
| 17:45.54 | Gnarfoz | @project fu-bar-addon-spam-fu |
| 17:45.55 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'fu-bar-addon-spam-fu' |
| 17:46.05 | Gnarfoz | @project fu-bar-addon_spam-fu |
| 17:46.06 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'fu-bar-addon_spam-fu' |
| 17:46.07 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 17:46.11 | doom0r | like i said |
| 17:46.11 | Gnarfoz | @project fu-bar_addon-spam-fu |
| 17:46.12 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_addon-spam-fu/. FuBar_AddonSpamFu. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. (Automatic) Abandoned since out-of-date for 60 days.. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 108 days ago |
| 17:46.16 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 17:46.28 | Gnarfoz | it's just insanely stupid |
| 17:46.30 | doom0r | exact url only |
| 17:46.34 | Gnarfoz | needs full text search |
| 17:46.52 | doom0r | no, abandoned won't return unless exact it seems |
| 17:47.02 | Gnarfoz | it only ever returns on exact matches |
| 17:47.08 | Gnarfoz | for anything |
| 17:47.11 | Gnarfoz | @project big wigs |
| 17:47.12 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/project-6294/. BIG little addon pack. Game: WoW. Status: Deleted. UI Packs are no longer supported as projects on CurseForge. We will have a proper system for UI Packs sometime soon. Thank you for your patience.. psycoprincess79 (Manager/Author). Updated: 151 days ago |
| 17:47.16 | Gnarfoz | see? :p |
| 17:47.20 | Gnarfoz | @project big-wigs |
| 17:47.22 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Game: WoW. funkydude (Manager/Author), Rabbit (Author), Ammo (Author). Updated: 39 hours ago. Tickets: 8/16 |
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| 17:47.32 | doom0r | use the site, search won't work there for it |
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| 17:47.36 | Gnarfoz | I know |
| 17:47.39 | Gnarfoz | I wasn't using it |
| 17:47.43 | Gnarfoz | I was abusing the bot :p |
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| 17:48.04 | doom0r | point is the site is not returning the search |
| 17:48.12 | doom0r | and that's more lax |
| 17:48.23 | Gnarfoz | my point being: the bot doesn't use the site search ;) |
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| 17:48.50 | Gnarfoz | hence my try of using my knowledge about the auto-conversion for old addons -> project names to my advantage |
| 17:51.03 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1376 / (6 files in 2 directories): Add more docs and stuf |
| 17:51.31 | NeoTron | so did s3d.25 last night |
| 17:51.32 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * 15007b9 Modules/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua: [+1 commit] pbtt: Cleanup pass |
| 17:51.47 | NeoTron | and although we got no kill (we lost a tank so had to quit early) it isn't relly that hard |
| 17:52.00 | NeoTron | we did get 3d's down but with too many dead to proceed to a kill |
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| 17:52.15 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 17:52.18 | Gnarfoz | how do you do *that* |
| 17:52.23 | Gnarfoz | lost healers? |
| 17:52.49 | NeoTron | we had like 10 people alive, maybe a few more |
| 17:52.58 | NeoTron | insufficient DPS to even keep the adds under control |
| 17:53.15 | Gnarfoz | also I fucking want some of your guildies or something, it's just terrible to endure how we can spend a night of tries on Sarth3D/25 where no try goes over 2min30sec |
| 17:53.34 | Gnarfoz | because always people die in void zones, drake breaths, flame walls, or just from fucking meteors |
| 17:53.45 | NeoTron | we had issues like that too |
| 17:53.50 | NeoTron | out main issue is keeping everyone alive |
| 17:53.56 | Gnarfoz | we had Tenebron down before > 5 people were dead like... 5 times out of nearly 30 tries? |
| 17:53.58 | NeoTron | the breaths were pathetically a non-issue |
| 17:54.09 | NeoTron | it's definitely NOT the hard part of the fight |
| 17:54.10 | Gnarfoz | I'm talking about shadow breaths btw |
| 17:54.18 | NeoTron | I'm talking about fire |
| 17:54.36 | Gnarfoz | fire breaths would have been our next big problem because, apparently, our tank's HP pool wasn't big enough |
| 17:54.47 | Gnarfoz | but we have other issues to conquer before that... |
| 17:54.53 | Gnarfoz | fucking movement cripples :\ |
| 17:54.58 | Gnarfoz | and BLIND people, too. :P |
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| 17:55.47 | Gnarfoz | what confuses me is how killing Vesperon (as we did 20 minutes before raid end) and then doing +2d went so smooth? |
| 17:55.56 | Gnarfoz | all it does is add +25% HP back to everyone |
| 17:56.08 | Gnarfoz | but we lost 0 players |
| 17:56.17 | durcyn | that 25% hp makes the rest survivable, and vesperon's acolyte can be a bit of a pain |
| 17:56.35 | Gnarfoz | we didn't even survive long enough most tries for there to *be* a Vesperon Acolyte :\ |
| 17:56.50 | Gnarfoz | also, +25% hp makes void zones survivable? I kind of doubt that |
| 17:57.05 | Gnarfoz | flame wall DoT will probably be less of an issue |
| 17:57.18 | Gnarfoz | anyway, 208 fails on 27 players, YAY |
| 17:57.21 | Gnarfoz | failbot <3 |
| 17:57.39 | durcyn | no, the only incidental damage should be lava strike and the occasional blaze |
| 17:57.46 | Gnarfoz | (the amount of fails gathered by people during wipes is exceedingly low in that number, too) |
| 17:58.08 | durcyn | if you still have people taking void zones or flame wall outside of a called wipe, then you might want to buy them some padded helmets, if you know what i mean |
| 17:58.26 | Gnarfoz | I'd happily give them, free of charge, a swift kick |
| 17:58.45 | Gnarfoz | but our realm seems to be a terribad nest or something. |
| 17:59.09 | Gnarfoz | also, we're kind of not-hardcore so replacing players based on their performance would be kind of a new turn ^^ |
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| 18:00.21 | NeoTron | the fire breath unmitigated seemed to hit me for like 30.5-31.5k |
| 18:00.48 | NeoTron | so I can survive it unmitigated if at full health as long as I got commanding shout up on me (died once from 30.5k but that was missing) |
| 18:01.01 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1377 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update some docs and fix slashes. |
| 18:01.13 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: druid then, I take it? |
| 18:01.15 | NeoTron | and the vesperon disciple adds 75% fire and shadow damage to everyone |
| 18:01.19 | NeoTron | deathknight |
| 18:01.28 | Gnarfoz | you have a shitton of HP then ^^ |
| 18:01.33 | NeoTron | I have ~32.5k or so |
| 18:01.38 | NeoTron | like 42.6k buffed |
| 18:01.41 | Gnarfoz | or the tank we tried just needs some serious upgrades... |
| 18:01.50 | Gnarfoz | he was at like 28.7 after -25% debuff |
| 18:01.59 | Gnarfoz | i.e. "when it matters" |
| 18:02.11 | NeoTron | I had like 4k more health then |
| 18:02.23 | Gnarfoz | yeah, our other warrior tank also has like +4k on that guy, buffed |
| 18:02.49 | Gnarfoz | but like I said, that part of the equation would have only been the next step... people need to fucking pay attention to their surroundings |
| 18:03.02 | quiescens | move --> way |
| 18:03.03 | Gnarfoz | even calling out void zones on TS sometimes doesn't save their asses |
| 18:03.08 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: srsly |
| 18:03.36 | quiescens | and then <-- way |
| 18:03.41 | steev | wtf is with gnomes and god damn green mohawks |
| 18:03.52 | doom0r | srsly |
| 18:03.53 | doom0r | go purple |
| 18:04.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4903 Naxxramas (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 18:04.13 | Repo | BigWigs: Naxxramas: |
| 18:04.15 | steev | go any color, all i EVER see is green mohawks |
| 18:04.16 | NeoTron | what confuses me however is how the unmitigated breath (w/o twilight torment of course) was like 31k |
| 18:04.16 | Repo | - Kel'Thuzad: Remove Unnecessary code(frostBlastTime) |
| 18:04.19 | Repo | - Noth: Add First blink warn |
| 18:04.20 | quiescens | purple is so typical |
| 18:04.21 | Repo | - Fix spellID icon |
| 18:04.34 | doom0r | i like purple |
| 18:04.42 | doom0r | it tastes good |
| 18:04.44 | steev | ohsnap, first blink warn |
| 18:05.11 | ckknight | hey all |
| 18:05.11 | ckknight | I added http://www.wowace.com/documenter/ |
| 18:05.11 | steev | hi2u |
| 18:05.13 | ckknight | you can see the documenter's status that way |
| 18:05.15 | steev | ^^keylogger |
| 18:05.19 | ckknight | truth |
| 18:05.23 | ckknight | but in case you're curious and such |
| 18:05.24 | quiescens | omg |
| 18:05.25 | quiescens | reported |
| 18:05.34 | steev | reported for reporting |
| 18:05.40 | ckknight | also, moderators can add repos back to the queue if you need redocumentation for some reason |
| 18:05.47 | steev | ckknight: spiffy |
| 18:05.59 | steev | if i ever get around to making my addon more than what it was |
| 18:06.21 | steev | or if i can't figure out how to get find minerals in sbf sooon |
| 18:06.55 | steev | ugh |
| 18:06.59 | steev | i totally slaughtered this box |
| 18:07.18 | steev | # qshape |
| 18:07.18 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.18 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.30 | Gnarfoz | ~seen zidomo |
| 18:07.33 | purl | zidomo <i=chatzill@bas9-toronto12-1088717409.dsl.bell.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 177d 16h 11m 48s ago, saying: 'heh. for a useless feature'. |
| 18:07.39 | Gnarfoz | mehhh |
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| 18:11.22 | TheDeamon | interesting last words |
| 18:11.42 | Gnarfoz | you never know which will be your last words here :D |
| 18:12.52 | Torhal | ckknight: Ping. |
| 18:13.04 | ckknight | Torhal: pong |
| 18:13.07 | Repo | 10xloot: 03kunda * r358 / (2 files in 2 directories): XLoot: |
| 18:13.08 | ckknight | what's up? |
| 18:13.10 | Repo | - del libs folder |
| 18:13.12 | Repo | - deDE update |
| 18:13.15 | Torhal | How would I handle this phrase for translation? |
| 18:13.16 | Torhal | ["INVTYPE_WRIST"]= {"Bracer", "Bracers"}, |
| 18:13.23 | ckknight | hang on |
| 18:13.25 | Torhal | kk |
| 18:13.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1378 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 18:13.38 | Repo | Add some error checking to make sure the profession isn't nil |
| 18:13.54 | Torhal | Actually, I think I'm doing that wrong since INVTYPE_WRIST is a token and will never be translated |
| 18:14.09 | Torhal | I should make two phrases: "Bracer" and "Bracers", aye? |
| 18:14.24 | ckknight | no, hang on |
| 18:15.15 | ckknight | "|4Bracer:Bracers" |
| 18:15.31 | ckknight | "1 |4Bracer:Bracers" looks like "1 Bracer" |
| 18:15.39 | doom0r | 4 hours to decide on a decent auto shot range color isn't so bad, right? |
| 18:15.40 | ckknight | "2 |4Bracer:Bracers" looks like "2 Bracers" |
| 18:15.52 | steev | range colour? |
| 18:16.09 | doom0r | ya, transitioning between two other colors on a range display |
| 18:16.25 | steev | i didn't know hunters had a range since the bastages shoot me from across the map in WSG |
| 18:16.45 | ckknight | http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Escape_Sequences |
| 18:16.54 | steev | specially with their new frogger shite |
| 18:17.31 | ckknight | Torhal: :-) |
| 18:17.36 | ckknight | Torhal: you all set? |
| 18:18.38 | Torhal | I won't know until I try it. :) |
| 18:18.51 | Torhal | Thanks |
| 18:19.32 | Torhal | Though that's a UI escape sequence and I don't see how that will help in a table within a table. |
| 18:19.44 | ckknight | it works with foreigners and even Russians |
| 18:19.54 | ckknight | for example, Asians don't have plurals |
| 18:19.57 | ckknight | 1 Chair, 2 Chair |
| 18:20.06 | ckknight | french have 0 and 1 as singular |
| 18:20.12 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1379 .docmeta: Fix .docmeta |
| 18:20.13 | ckknight | 0 Chair, 1 Chair, 2 Chairs |
| 18:20.17 | ckknight | WoW handles it properly |
| 18:20.31 | ckknight | Russians have multiple types of pluralization (not sure of the details) |
| 18:20.40 | Torhal | Gah. Well, Blizzard has always had: "Enchant Bracer - Effect" and now they also have "Enchant Bracers - Effect", so I was trying to compensate for that. Works fine in English :( |
| 18:21.45 | Arrowmaster | the russians are so fucked up they have to input 6 names when they make a character |
| 18:22.43 | Torhal | The problem with the escape sequence solution is I'm not using numbers - I'm just matching on the enchant words |
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| 18:22.58 | Torhal | So in another language they may not have "Enchant Bracers" and only have the former |
| 18:22.59 | Torhal | Shit |
| 18:23.00 | ckknight | oh |
| 18:23.03 | ckknight | hmm |
| 18:23.05 | doom0r | In Soviet Rus... aw hell, i'll just go to bed |
| 18:23.13 | ckknight | yea, the namespace system has no way to specify lists, just strings |
| 18:23.32 | ckknight | err |
| 18:23.34 | ckknight | localization system |
| 18:23.35 | Torhal | So I want to make a phrase for the resultant words rather than the INVTYPE_ tokens |
| 18:23.46 | ckknight | Torhal: imo, you could make people separate by semicolons |
| 18:23.48 | ckknight | and generate your own list |
| 18:24.00 | ckknight | Bracer;Bracers |
| 18:25.15 | NeoTron | I saw someone saying that S+3d is like SWP but definitely not Muru but I can't say I agree |
| 18:25.27 | NeoTron | it's a lot easier than any SWP boss I encountered |
| 18:25.50 | NeoTron | similar difficulty to, perhaps, some of the SWP trash though :P |
| 18:26.34 | Zhinjio | G'mornin |
| 18:26.57 | durcyn | that doesn't even make sense, i can't think of a single sunwell encounter that's similar to sartharion |
| 18:27.54 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yola. |
| 18:28.45 | Torhal | Bah. Having to give a reason for deleting a phrase is anoying. |
| 18:30.22 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1380 / (2 files in 2 directories): Add header to text dump. |
| 18:30.44 | NeoTron | durcyn: difficulty level is not comparable imho |
| 18:31.02 | NeoTron | 10 man 3 drake I DO think would compare in difficulty though |
| 18:31.05 | NeoTron | that's a lot harder |
| 18:34.26 | Primer | Does anyone here have the headless horseman's mount? Does it behave differently than other mounts? |
| 18:34.35 | Primer | as in, does it have multiple spellids? |
| 18:35.05 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-layout: 03Mokhtar 04v1.3 * r47 : Tagging as v1.3 |
| 18:35.33 | Repo | 10grid-dynamic-zone-switch: 03Mokhtar 04v1.2 * r39 : Tagging as v1.2 |
| 18:35.37 | Repo | 10xloot: 03kunda * r359 locales/deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 18:36.41 | Primer | All I was able to find was this: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48025 |
| 18:36.53 | Pneumatus | Primer: it behaves teh same as a 280% flying mount afaik |
| 18:36.56 | Primer | So I added the spellid to my addon, and the dude that reported the bug says it still doesn't work |
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| 18:40.38 | Repo | 10xloot: 03kunda * r360 locales/deDE.lua: ahhh damned ;) another one: deDE update |
| 18:41.40 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1381 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add filter flags to the text dump. |
| 18:44.32 | dodga | So with the new Grid I should be able to target players when they are e.g. on a dragon at Malygos? |
| 18:48.38 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1382 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add place holder for acquire text to be added to text dump. |
| 18:51.04 | steev | um |
| 18:51.06 | steev | wtf? |
| 18:51.16 | steev | what the hell kind of comment is this "You can mount this mount while falling, provided you start the cast while already mounted on a different flying mount." |
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| 18:52.44 | Pneumatus | dodga: you get a bunch of extra unitframes for each players vehicle which you can then target |
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| 18:54.10 | Bruners | what was the name of that icon cooldown/debuff addon ? |
| 18:54.19 | dodga | Pneumatus: Where should those frames appear? |
| 18:54.32 | Pneumatus | where pet frames usually show up |
| 18:54.45 | dodga | I see, so when I don't display pets I'm screwed? :D |
| 18:54.53 | Pneumatus | yup |
| 18:54.56 | dodga | sucks :D |
| 18:55.05 | Pneumatus | not displaying pets fails |
| 18:56.50 | dodga | I don't care about them, so bleh :P |
| 18:56.56 | pastamancer | dodga: http://images.gammatester.com/#16e736f08efec496df7e826fe802d5b6.png |
| 18:57.01 | pastamancer | except not green |
| 18:57.36 | Bruners | cant you have grid swap veichle/player? |
| 18:57.39 | dodga | I see |
| 18:57.40 | pastamancer | nope |
| 18:57.45 | Pneumatus | "Chriba" any relation to the EVE Chribba? :o |
| 18:57.51 | pastamancer | it's not currently possible to swap them like the default ui does |
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| 18:58.41 | pastamancer | blizzard knows, and they'll do something about it when they feel like it |
| 18:58.52 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1383 Docs/Documentation.txt: Doc update |
| 18:59.57 | Bruners | pastamancer: ouf does that, with various results tho |
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| 19:01.22 | pastamancer | it's kinda doable for the player and the players vehicle |
| 19:01.32 | pastamancer | but not possible for raid or party members |
| 19:01.44 | Bruners | it does that for partyframes aswell |
| 19:02.10 | Bruners | but not always updating back when they leave |
| 19:02.43 | pastamancer | yeah, I'm not going to implement something poorly |
| 19:03.37 | pastamancer | so let me rephrase: to do the swapping properly in-combat using the secure raid headers is not possible at this time |
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| 19:05.56 | Gnarfoz | <+pastamancer> dodga: http://images.gammatester.com/#16e736f08efec496df7e826fe802d5b6.png <-- that that page requires JS to work is beyond unawesome :O |
| 19:06.40 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1384 Docs (2 files in 1 directory): More doc updates. |
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| 19:09.34 | Gnarfoz | pastamancer: but the new grid pet/vehicle stuff *does* display the "driver"'s name instead of the vehicle's name, I take it, from that screenshot? |
| 19:10.56 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 19:12.16 | Gnarfoz | awesome, although I can't fit Grid w/ 25+25 layout anywhere on my screen :o |
| 19:12.40 | Zeksie | oh god pls blizzard fix this lag... :| |
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| 19:17.36 | Bruners | is there any light alternatives to ratingbuster? |
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| 19:20.01 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1385 Docs/Documentation.txt: More doc updates. |
| 19:20.13 | Wraith|Work | There a reason why: _, _, ShockAndAwe.priorityTable.icon["mw5_lb"] = GetSpellInfo("Lightning Bolt") would come up with nil sometimes, then a /reload fixes it? |
| 19:20.22 | chiper | isnt ratingbuster already pretty lite? |
| 19:20.47 | amoeba | chiper: It's one of the heaviest AddOns I've ever used. That's not saying a lot though. |
| 19:21.17 | chiper | that seems odd to me, given that all it does is read tooltip data and add tooltop data. |
| 19:21.23 | amoeba | It uses a couple megs. |
| 19:21.24 | chiper | doing a bit of math in between |
| 19:22.44 | Bruners | thing with ratingbuster is that its not updated with DK talents |
| 19:22.54 | amoeba | ahh |
| 19:23.02 | Whitetooth | what talents? |
| 19:23.12 | Bruners | strength increasing talents |
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| 19:23.31 | Bruners | Shadow of death, ravenous dead, vetaran of the third war |
| 19:24.02 | Bruners | and its ace2 |
| 19:24.18 | Whitetooth | RatingBuster supports all 6 DK str mod talents |
| 19:24.32 | Bruners | not displaying them correct here |
| 19:25.22 | Whitetooth | works fine for me tho :p |
| 19:25.37 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1386 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix minor typo. |
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| 19:27.40 | Pneumatus | yeh, RB has been working fine on my DK as far as ive seen |
| 19:28.14 | Bruners | http://ui.ipwn.se/i/317.jpg |
| 19:28.29 | Bruners | 50 str = 114 ap |
| 19:29.05 | Whitetooth | you might have statmods turned off |
| 19:29.26 | Whitetooth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:29.35 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/docmeta-file/ by Ackis |
| 19:30.36 | Bruners | hmm, why would that be turned off by default? |
| 19:30.45 | NeoTron | a couple of more days of hodir and i'm exalted and I can drop inscription and start the fun leveling process of JC |
| 19:30.49 | Whitetooth | its on by default |
| 19:30.56 | AckisWork | ping sylvanaar |
| 19:31.29 | Bruners | couldnt have been on by default here as i have just reinstalled everything and not touched RB |
| 19:32.07 | Bruners | oh well, im glad that is sorted then |
| 19:32.29 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1387 .docmeta: Fix .docmeta again. |
| 19:33.24 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added a little testing code (ugly) |
| 19:33.27 | Repo | Fixed absent role reporting bug |
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| 19:33.37 | Bruners | Whitetooth: it says 113 ap tho :P |
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| 19:34.57 | Whitetooth | that seems right |
| 19:35.24 | Bruners | maby a roundup in the paper doll ? |
| 19:35.48 | Whitetooth | you have +13% str |
| 19:36.00 | Whitetooth | yes |
| 19:36.17 | Bruners | ap with trinket on - ap without trinket on gives me 114 |
| 19:36.57 | Whitetooth | because there is no 0.5 str |
| 19:37.10 | Primer | Does anyone here have the headless horseman's mount? I'd like to get the spellid of the buff |
| 19:37.43 | Bruners | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48025 |
| 19:37.44 | Bruners | ? |
| 19:37.57 | Primer | yeah, tried that, and the dude who reported the bug said it didn't work |
| 19:38.08 | Bruners | Effect #1Apply Aura: Mounted (24814) |
| 19:38.08 | Primer | <Primer> All I was able to find was this: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=48025 |
| 19:38.15 | Primer | doh |
| 19:38.22 | Primer | ok, I swear I looked for that |
| 19:38.23 | Primer | thaks |
| 19:38.27 | Primer | thanks |
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| 19:39.50 | Whitetooth | I decided not to let RB deal with the roundings, because I think it would be more confusing if +50 str gave 112 AP sometimes and 114 other times |
| 19:41.41 | Bruners | Whitetooth: when http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53136 triggers it shows 124 ap is that correct? |
| 19:41.52 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1388 AckisRecipeList.lua: Add a few more lines of docs. |
| 19:42.37 | Whitetooth | 113*1.1=124.3 |
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| 19:46.37 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1389 AckisRecipeList.lua: Testing more luadoc |
| 19:48.03 | Fisker- | attacks Kaelten without provocation |
| 19:48.22 | Kaelten | ~lar Fisker- |
| 19:48.24 | Bruners | taunts Fisker- off Kaelten |
| 19:48.27 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker- |
| 19:48.27 | purl | slams Fisker- against a large cement Tux |
| 19:49.33 | Gnarfoz | nice one |
| 19:49.43 | Gnarfoz | does Sartharion have a frenzy timer btw? |
| 19:49.53 | Pneumatus | nop |
| 19:51.51 | Bruners | ok, tomtom and hudmap doesnt work together |
| 19:52.57 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1390 AckisRecipeList.lua: Document all api functions |
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| 20:00.06 | Repo | - fixed a bug with the AceDB:New() call that prevented the savedvars from loading properly for users who didn't already have it established (read: everyone besides me) |
| 20:00.43 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.7.8 * r153 : Tagging as v0.7.8. |
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| 20:04.51 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r13 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - Memory optimizations |
| 20:06.53 | Hjalte | I can't seem to find AddonSpamFu anywhere, is there another addon that is able to tell me how much peoples addons are spamming the hidden channels? |
| 20:06.54 | *** join/#wowace Jagobah (n=jago7777@adsl-217-147-229.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:07.05 | Pneumatus | Hjalte: it still exists somewhere... |
| 20:07.57 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowace.com/projects/fu-bar_addon-spam-fu/ |
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| 20:08.50 | sb | wtb stable servers... *sigh* |
| 20:09.04 | ckknight | you and me both |
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| 20:12.23 | Bruners | likes his stable server |
| 20:12.44 | steev | gives applemail the finger |
| 20:12.48 | pentium166 | like, stables his servers |
| 20:13.10 | ckknight | hey all, anyone up for reading http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/ and telling me if it makes sense and all? |
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| 20:16.43 | Zhinjio | reads. |
| 20:17.01 | Bruners | ckknight: pfft, "games shouldn't make you translate in your head constantly" |
| 20:17.21 | Bruners | demands norwegian translation of wow |
| 20:17.50 | Groktar | less time on translations and more time on new content imo |
| 20:17.52 | ckknight | don't demand from me |
| 20:18.01 | ckknight | and honestly, I'd be cool with an noNO version |
| 20:18.04 | ckknight | or whatever it is |
| 20:18.12 | Bruners | ehm no ? |
| 20:18.19 | Bruners | you would have two of them |
| 20:18.19 | steev | ckknight: seems fine by me |
| 20:18.37 | steev | ckknight: but where's the translated version of it? |
| 20:18.40 | ckknight | two of what? |
| 20:18.41 | Bruners | nbNO and nnNO or w/e |
| 20:18.58 | Bruners | we have two stupid writing languages |
| 20:19.01 | Bruners | almost the same |
| 20:19.08 | ckknight | hehe |
| 20:19.45 | sb | bah... wow unplayable on our server |
| 20:19.52 | ckknight | still, we don't plan to support more languages than WoW supports |
| 20:19.57 | ckknight | but we'll support every language WoW supports |
| 20:20.13 | Bruners | no point in doing that :P |
| 20:20.28 | Stew_a | couldn't someone just translate GlobalStrings.lua and load their own copy to overwrite WoW's? |
| 20:20.34 | Zhinjio | ckknight: looks good. |
| 20:20.53 | ckknight | Stew_a: yea, but it's more than that, spells would be different, things like that |
| 20:21.01 | ckknight | Zhinjio: cool |
| 20:22.32 | steev | kicks gmail's pop3 stuff |
| 20:22.39 | steev | stop giving me 200 mails at a time |
| 20:22.48 | Bruners | ckknight: looks ok |
| 20:22.57 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1391 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:23.00 | Repo | Add acquire info to the text dump, all dry-coded so it'll probably blow up. |
| 20:23.11 | steev | mmmm dry code |
| 20:24.07 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith * r69 GridStatusMana.lua: GridManaBars: |
| 20:24.07 | Repo | - fixed a "Roster:xxx" instead of "GridRoster:xxx" mistake (thanks to Greltok) |
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| 20:26.45 | ckknight | hey pastamancer |
| 20:26.50 | ckknight | mance me up some pasta already |
| 20:27.19 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): Commented some more extraneous debug |
| 20:27.47 | Bruners | hmm, that got me thinking i havent eaten today |
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| 20:29.36 | Fisker- | hey ckknight |
| 20:29.38 | Fisker- | wanna make out? |
| 20:29.45 | Bruners | Whitetooth: have you considered porting RB to ace3? |
| 20:30.04 | Whitetooth | why? |
| 20:30.16 | Bruners | ist the new cool in town |
| 20:30.31 | Whitetooth | nope |
| 20:30.41 | Whitetooth | thats not enough |
| 20:30.43 | steev | whats r3 |
| 20:30.46 | steev | er rb |
| 20:31.35 | Whitetooth | I'm not gonna do something with no good reason |
| 20:32.06 | AckisWork | ace3 is cooler! it makes it more effecient! more fanbois will love you! penis |
| 20:32.33 | steev | ahahaha |
| 20:32.41 | steev | mmm penis |
| 20:32.54 | steev | so i just asked our sysadmin if he'd seen spartanui |
| 20:33.03 | steev | and hes like no, but several people have told me it has a keylogger |
| 20:33.05 | Bruners | ace2 adds extra megabutts as RB is the last addon that i have that use it |
| 20:33.14 | Atriace | What?! |
| 20:33.16 | steev | what is RB |
| 20:33.23 | Fisker- | it's your mom |
| 20:33.25 | Atriace | SpartanUI is not a keylogger. |
| 20:33.30 | steev | Atriace: i know this |
| 20:33.40 | steev | thus the "ahahaha" |
| 20:33.45 | Fisker- | It's sparta Atriace |
| 20:33.47 | Fisker- | oololol |
| 20:33.52 | steev | and considering both he and i play in wine |
| 20:33.59 | Atriace | Unless someone has repackaged it without my knowing, it is most certainly not a keylogger. I wrote it. |
| 20:34.05 | steev | its not like it matters |
| 20:34.48 | steev | Atriace: awesome job btw - its ver nice |
| 20:34.56 | steev | i just haven't had a computer that could really use it til now |
| 20:35.21 | Atriace | Thanks, though it really needs to be updated. I haven't touched wow since Wrath came out. |
| 20:35.23 | Bruners | steev: ratingbuster |
| 20:35.32 | steev | Bruners: oh snap, i use that |
| 20:36.09 | steev | much easier to see if something is an upgrade or a downgrade |
| 20:36.14 | steev | or a sidegrade |
| 20:36.30 | steev | although i wish it worked on enchants le sigh |
| 20:36.50 | Bruners | it does if you turn it on ? |
| 20:37.02 | steev | Bruners: i mean when i click on the enchant itself |
| 20:37.26 | steev | [Enchanting: Enchant Cloak - Superinsane Agility] |
| 20:37.31 | steev | +22 Agility to cloak |
| 20:37.46 | steev | doesn't tell me what that translates into for dodge |
| 20:37.48 | Bruners | strength is the new cool, agility is so TBC |
| 20:37.50 | steev | until its on the cloak |
| 20:37.57 | steev | Bruners: meh, my parry is high enough |
| 20:38.53 | steev | also, there's a str to cloak enchant? |
| 20:39.01 | Bruners | nope :( |
| 20:39.08 | steev | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:40.32 | steev | oh yeah, the other reason i couldn't use spartanui is cuz my resolution at home sucks, 1280x1024 doesn't give enough room for chat boxes on the sides |
| 20:40.55 | Atriace | pounds head on desk. |
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| 20:41.11 | steev | uh oh, jaeger showed up, i have to play nice |
| 20:41.25 | Atriace | I should never have made that video on youtube... |
| 20:41.27 | jaeger | play how you like, heh. just poked my head in as I haven't been in here in a while |
| 20:41.30 | steev | Atriace: i was never able to get them there successfully |
| 20:42.12 | Atriace | The chat windows on the sides was a nice biproduct of having widescreen. The standard method is above the HUD. It's the same for the default UI. |
| 20:42.13 | Bruners | hmm, why isnt my numpad +- working |
| 20:42.28 | Bruners | or / * |
| 20:42.33 | Atriace | Even on widescreen, it's a bit small. |
| 20:42.52 | steev | Atriace: yeah, just that i'm able to with a caith-like setup, but its not quite as pretty :( |
| 20:43.03 | Atriace | C'est la vie |
| 20:43.16 | steev | eventually ill upgrade monitors |
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| 20:44.53 | Axodious | hey, is there any easy way to set the strata of an addons frame if it doesn't have the option in the config? i've got yata and grid installed and my yata mouse over bars go on the grid frame, but beneath it instead of over which i would like |
| 20:45.05 | pastamancer | ckknight: whattup? |
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| 20:46.20 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r64 / (5 files in 2 directories): Remove some code, make some docs to make datamining easier. |
| 20:48.10 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 4055 |
| 20:48.10 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=4055 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=4055 |
| 20:49.51 | ckknight | pastamancer: we're discussing the postgres transition |
| 20:50.01 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: huh, how do they not work together? |
| 20:50.29 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: the arrow coords is not updating |
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| 20:50.48 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: in combination with routes its not updating for new nodes either |
| 20:51.21 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: it looks like its working if you just open it, but if you try to use it you will soon see that its not |
| 20:51.41 | jnwhiteh | then there is probably a race condition |
| 20:51.49 | jnwhiteh | i'd bet money that WORLD_MAP_UPDATE is firing over and over again |
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| 20:52.15 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: do you have hilight on tomtom ? :P |
| 20:52.38 | Pkekyo| | I love bringing my PRR to internet cafes :D |
| 20:52.40 | jnwhiteh | a bit more complex than that |
| 20:52.50 | jnwhiteh | any messages containing one of my 30 keywords are PM'd to me by my proxy |
| 20:53.59 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r31 Options.lua: Fix listing of ignored items. |
| 20:55.06 | pastamancer | I'm really surprised at how many people leave Grid unlocked |
| 20:55.17 | Fisker- | wat? |
| 20:55.20 | Fisker- | WAAAAAAAAAAT |
| 20:55.24 | Fisker- | rages |
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| 20:55.49 | pastamancer | I've accidentally dragged grid around trying to heal someone |
| 20:55.56 | pastamancer | and it drives me nuts |
| 20:57.09 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: would you check to see if the event is firing |
| 20:58.36 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: how do i do that ? |
| 20:58.48 | jnwhiteh | run /dtevents |
| 20:59.18 | Bruners | which means i have to load developer tools i guess |
| 20:59.31 | jnwhiteh | or /run MYDEBUG=1; local f = CreateFrame("Frame"); f:SetScript("OnEvent", function(...) if MYDEBUG then print(...) end end); f:RegisterEvent("WORLD_MAP_UPDATE") |
| 20:59.33 | jnwhiteh | ish |
| 20:59.55 | Bruners | its run one million times |
| 21:00.08 | jnwhiteh | over and over again? |
| 21:00.11 | jnwhiteh | then its not TomTom's fault =) |
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| 21:01.34 | jnwhiteh | you can turn that off with /run MYDEBUG=nil; |
| 21:01.39 | jnwhiteh | if you didn't reload already |
| 21:02.05 | Bruners | using devtools |
| 21:02.10 | jnwhiteh | ah =) |
| 21:04.20 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: http://ui.ipwn.se/i/319.jpg |
| 21:04.49 | jnwhiteh | yeah, that's a race condition with the map |
| 21:04.52 | jnwhiteh | most likely |
| 21:05.21 | jnwhiteh | meaning that the offending addon is CAUSING a WORLD_MAP_UPDATE either on a timed basis, or in response to a WORLD_MAP_UPDATE event |
| 21:06.42 | Pneumatus | sounds like somethign questhelper would do |
| 21:06.56 | Bruners | i dont use such |
| 21:07.22 | jnwhiteh | I am almost certainly positive you ARE using an addon that does this. |
| 21:07.31 | Bruners | lightheaded does the trick, for anything else i can always just check wowhead for updates |
| 21:07.44 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: sexymap + hudmap + routes |
| 21:07.52 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 21:07.54 | jnwhiteh | tomtom + routes works |
| 21:08.00 | jnwhiteh | tomtom + sexymap + routes works |
| 21:08.05 | jnwhiteh | so where do you think the problem likely lies? :P |
| 21:08.10 | Bruners | sexymap(with hudmap on) |
| 21:08.15 | Bruners | hudmap = sexymap :P |
| 21:08.28 | jnwhiteh | its almost a separate addon |
| 21:08.33 | jnwhiteh | antiarc is good about that |
| 21:10.19 | Bruners | jnwhiteh: its still incorporated into sexymap |
| 21:10.28 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 21:10.34 | jnwhiteh | either way your issue likely lies there |
| 21:11.05 | jnwhiteh | I'm going to have to write something to work around the issue, because this isn't the only addon that does this |
| 21:11.24 | Axodious | anyone know of an addon that lets you alt + click or something an item and it will sell all of that item in your bags? |
| 21:11.36 | Axodious | not an auto-sell by list |
| 21:11.57 | Bruners | i dont use tomtom with that so not really an issue for me, just did a test with it. if i recall correctly someone else reported that some days gao |
| 21:12.00 | Bruners | *ago |
| 21:12.16 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 21:12.27 | jnwhiteh | its still a problem when an addon does that, so hopefully it gets fixed |
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| 21:14.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r4904 / (3 files in 2 directories): Cleanups in Sartharion and Malygos. |
| 21:22.39 | steev | Axodious: not i - but thanks for reminding me, i need to check for an update to autoprofit, stupid thing keeps tryin to sell my t7 and pvp gear, and even when it doesn't succeed, it still freaks me out and i check the buyback tab just in case (cuz it sold the tier token before) |
| 21:23.22 | Axodious | lol |
| 21:23.29 | steev | i went and got the t7 chest token, went to the vendor <auto sell/repair when opening vendor> attempt to buy the chest.... You don't have the required items to purchase that |
| 21:23.43 | Axodious | it's just such a pain cutting ~300 uncommon gems (for perfects) and having to sell all the non-perfects |
| 21:24.02 | steev | Axodious: slap em on the ah cheap, just barely over what vendor is |
| 21:24.06 | steev | people will still buy em |
| 21:24.46 | Axodious | meh, that takes more time than individually selling them, for a minor profit |
| 21:25.59 | Axodious | i cut 300+ uncommons a day heh |
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| 21:43.13 | Bruners | 150g a day if you do 50s above vendor price |
| 21:44.14 | Axodious | if they sell, which they probably would for the first 2-3 days, then the ah would be full of my auctions >_< |
| 21:45.41 | Bruners | so with 2g above vendor you get 600g! |
| 21:46.45 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r65 / (2 files in 2 directories): DB update |
| 21:48.55 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal * r49 / (7 files in 3 directories): Updated .pkgmeta and embeds.xml to include AceLocale-3.0. |
| 21:48.57 | Repo | Modified appropriate sections of code for localization. |
| 21:48.59 | Repo | Added enUS translation file. |
| 21:49.29 | Bruners | two hand hit cap is 8%, 8.5% or 9% ? |
| 21:51.36 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r66 / (2 files in 2 directories): update docs to reflect filter flags |
| 21:55.14 | Jaxon | Axodious: you are a jewelcrafter? |
| 21:55.16 | Axodious | yes |
| 21:55.20 | Jaxon | Axodious: do you have an enchanting alt? |
| 21:55.24 | Jaxon | Or access to someone with enchanting? |
| 21:55.29 | Axodious | yea |
| 21:55.53 | Jaxon | Use those 300 uncut green gems and 2x Crystallized Earth and make some rings. |
| 21:55.55 | Jaxon | DE the rings. |
| 21:56.09 | Jaxon | 2 stacks of Eternal Earth gets you enough Crystallized for 200 Rings |
| 21:56.18 | Bruners | sounds cool |
| 21:56.33 | Bruners | name of the rings? |
| 21:56.36 | Jaxon | And this "scheme" made me fall in love with Panda and Tekkub |
| 21:56.49 | Axodious | those de into dream shards Jaxon? |
| 21:56.52 | Jaxon | Bruners: don't remember off hand, level 70 required. |
| 21:57.14 | Jaxon | Axodious: 1-2 Infinite Dust, 1-2 Lesser Cosmic Essence or 1 Small Shard. |
| 21:57.25 | Bruners | dusts are cheap |
| 21:57.45 | Jaxon | Still 4g a piece on my server. |
| 21:58.01 | Axodious | perfects are selling for 15g+ depending on the cut :p |
| 21:58.06 | Jaxon | I spent 200g on two stacks of Eternal Earths and ended up with 896g worth of Dust. |
| 21:58.20 | Bruners | earth sell that well? |
| 21:58.21 | Tekkub | Stoneguard Band probably |
| 21:58.49 | Tekkub | I've used that a few times, but the profit margin usually isn't enough to be worth it |
| 21:58.52 | Jaxon | Bloodstone Band, Crystal Chalcedony Amulet, Crystal Citrine Necklace, Sun Rock Ring |
| 21:59.10 | Tekkub | just fall back to that when ceap green DEables are all bought up (by me) and I need more |
| 21:59.14 | sylvanaar | AckisWork pong |
| 21:59.25 | Jaxon | Tekkub: what do you define as "cheap" |
| 21:59.26 | Jaxon | ? |
| 21:59.39 | Tekkub | avg 1g profit when crushed |
| 21:59.45 | Tekkub | or more |
| 22:03.01 | thul | what am I supposed to do about mages as a dk? |
| 22:03.14 | Bruners | why the hell did they change the alchy discover to not show what the dude got? |
| 22:03.35 | sylvanaar | mages are overpowered right now |
| 22:04.07 | Axodious | ^- and they arent getting nerfed ... yet |
| 22:04.22 | sylvanaar | just die and move on |
| 22:04.25 | Bruners | thul: silence them, icy touch, icytouch, dc, dc, wait, die |
| 22:04.58 | thul | die |
| 22:05.00 | thul | is the clue here |
| 22:05.04 | durcyn | the problem with mages, is that Calgan plays one. |
| 22:05.28 | Bruners | or you could get lucky and use anti magic shell when they lock you to the ground |
| 22:05.55 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r67 / (2 files in 2 directories): Pet db update and fix typo in docs |
| 22:06.09 | thul | they can stun, lock, kite... and hit me with 6000 damage spells every 1.5 sec |
| 22:06.13 | thul | wtf am I supposed to do? :-P |
| 22:06.23 | sylvanaar | take it like a man |
| 22:06.57 | Bruners | you cant kill all classes |
| 22:07.45 | thul | i can't kill any classes with the dk :-P i hate dk-pvp :-) I miss my rogue :-D I have to level my rogue to do pvp |
| 22:07.46 | Bruners | i love how easy it is to kill druids |
| 22:08.01 | sylvanaar | i hate dks |
| 22:08.04 | Bruners | then you got to suck |
| 22:08.17 | Bruners | all melee types are mostly easy |
| 22:08.25 | Bruners | depending on how lame they are |
| 22:08.25 | thul | pfft, I asspwn everything with my rogue :-P |
| 22:08.47 | sylvanaar | rogues are more overpowered than mages |
| 22:08.52 | Bruners | paladin using bubble, lay on hands, stun+heal can be hard |
| 22:09.13 | Axodious | what is with the lack of usefull ret glyphs |
| 22:09.59 | Bruners | what is paladin ret dps now in pve? |
| 22:10.19 | Axodious | ~13-15 in meters from what ive seen |
| 22:10.20 | sylvanaar | still great? |
| 22:11.01 | Bruners | we only have one, and he's not doing that great :P |
| 22:11.18 | sylvanaar | we have a couple they are still top |
| 22:11.32 | sylvanaar | one has the kt axe |
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| 22:11.37 | Greltok | Ours put out 3.6k last Naxx. |
| 22:11.39 | Axodious | im lvling mine and i completely forgot to get glyphs, went looking at them and i was like wow... 1 usefull glyph |
| 22:12.12 | thul | I did 2600-2800 dps in naxx last time too, nax is fun |
| 22:12.13 | Axodious | i was looking at wws high score reports most of them have ret paladins near last |
| 22:12.16 | Aeyan | Judgement, Avenging Wrath and Seal of Blood glyphs |
| 22:12.17 | Aeyan | I guess |
| 22:12.56 | Aeyan | SoC glyph might be better if you're swinging a way slow weapon |
| 22:13.24 | sylvanaar | who does wws have as top dps? mage? |
| 22:13.43 | Greltok | Hunters? |
| 22:14.04 | Bruners | http://wowwebstats.com/jfqzsh4fmu12c?s=6476-79166 |
| 22:14.07 | sylvanaar | hunters dont seem as good as they were |
| 22:14.21 | Axodious | hunters mages and warriors (depending on the fight) |
| 22:14.22 | Bruners | ours are doing good |
| 22:14.34 | Axodious | some dks |
| 22:14.39 | Bruners | i always win on patchwerk |
| 22:14.44 | sylvanaar | loatheb it a terrible fight to use |
| 22:14.52 | Greltok | Aye. |
| 22:15.02 | Greltok | patch would be a better indicator. |
| 22:15.10 | Greltok | Loatheb requires target switching. |
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| 22:15.35 | sylvanaar | and it magnifies crit so some specs really do amazing |
| 22:15.45 | Greltok | Good point |
| 22:16.09 | Axodious | my main is an ele shaman, man i cant wait for the patch :( |
| 22:16.28 | jaeger | the patch *might* be enough to get me to try elemental again |
| 22:16.48 | Axodious | right now the "good" feral tanks in my guild are beating me |
| 22:16.51 | Axodious | its sad |
| 22:17.12 | Axodious | but aoe 3% crit debuff is pretty nice |
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| 22:20.02 | sylvanaar | 10 man naxx 8 player achievement run http://wowwebstats.com/rz3pacuonatci |
| 22:20.43 | Bruners | we need warlocks :S |
| 22:21.17 | pompy | sylvanaar: grats |
| 22:22.16 | ckknight | Thrae: http://bash.org/?715285 |
| 22:22.18 | Camci | whats the easiest drake to start with for start 1 drake ? |
| 22:22.25 | Camci | sart* |
| 22:22.40 | sylvanaar | the 2nd one |
| 22:22.46 | Camci | with the welps? |
| 22:23.01 | Camci | err |
| 22:23.03 | sylvanaar | tenebron is whelps |
| 22:23.07 | sylvanaar | hes first |
| 22:23.10 | Camci | i dont know their names |
| 22:23.24 | sylvanaar | shadron |
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| 22:23.36 | Camci | what does he do? :P |
| 22:24.47 | Axodious | how do i (lvl 70 ret) manage to kill a lvl 76 ret :| |
| 22:24.53 | Camci | ah right hes the one with the fire aura |
| 22:25.25 | ZealotOnAStick | Bleyaeargh! Blah-bubgle. |
| 22:25.49 | Greltok | Camci: http://www.wowwiki.com/Obsidian_Sanctum |
| 22:25.55 | Greltok | You doing 10 or 25 man? |
| 22:25.59 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Sartharion |
| 22:25.59 | Camci | was just there |
| 22:26.01 | Camci | 10 man |
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| 22:26.37 | Greltok | You should grab Failbot from Curse. It's pretty helpful on that fight. |
| 22:26.41 | Camci | shoudlnt the one with the welps be easier? we got a pala tank that tanks the drake, he can just aoe tank the adds too |
| 22:27.02 | Bruners | what is failbot doing really? |
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| 22:27.15 | Greltok | And of course Sylvanaar has an alpha equivalent (although it didn't work for me). |
| 22:27.18 | Camci | reports when someone is failing :P |
| 22:28.03 | Bruners | do bigwigs/dbm report when your in voidshitzone on kel ? |
| 22:28.07 | Greltok | It's helpful to know if raiders are getting nailed by Flame Wave or Void Zone, without having to comb through Acheron. |
| 22:28.24 | sylvanaar | dbm has that in it too |
| 22:28.24 | Camci | cant really report |
| 22:28.31 | Camci | since it insta kills you |
| 22:28.49 | Bruners | i have died to that shit to many times now |
| 22:28.57 | Camci | i think, i use dmg but i dont think he reports |
| 22:29.01 | Camci | dbm* |
| 22:29.17 | sylvanaar | spell detail down to minimum |
| 22:29.33 | sylvanaar | no reason to die to zones or waves |
| 22:29.44 | sylvanaar | though everyone does |
| 22:29.46 | Bruners | its like standing there 90% of the fight just doing normal rotations then out of nowhere a zone spawns |
| 22:30.33 | sylvanaar | they spawn on players |
| 22:30.41 | steev | there is some *weird* shit on the internets |
| 22:30.54 | Camci | and you figure that out now? ^^ |
| 22:31.08 | steev | no... just, haven't actually seen this stuff before |
| 22:31.16 | Camci | what stuff? :P |
| 22:31.27 | Greltok | There are lots of fights where things spawn under players. Void zones are very forgiving - Flame Patch on Al'ar, anyone? |
| 22:31.40 | steev | e621.net/post/show/19341 (purposely made that you have to copy and paste to open it) |
| 22:31.49 | steev | 150% nsfw |
| 22:31.55 | Bruners | ~UGT |
| 22:31.56 | purl | i guess ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 22:32.02 | sylvanaar | void zones are only instakill while tenebron is up really |
| 22:32.02 | quiescens | flame patches do relatively gradual damage though |
| 22:32.40 | steev | we did heroic os last night |
| 22:32.41 | quiescens | as a dot, they were probably designed with the intent that people will take a tick or two |
| 22:32.45 | Greltok | Yeah, but 2 or 3 ticks is all it took for clothies. |
| 22:32.57 | steev | this mage had never been |
| 22:33.05 | steev | "go through the portal" |
| 22:33.10 | steev | he runs into the void zone |
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| 22:33.56 | sylvanaar | you know its hard to run into a void zone |
| 22:34.10 | sylvanaar | on purpose |
| 22:34.43 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed the comparator |
| 22:34.44 | Greltok | And hey, he at least _tried_ to follow instructions. Kudos to him. |
| 22:34.56 | steev | oh he's my buddy |
| 22:34.59 | steev | we were all cracking up |
| 22:35.52 | steev | my roommate ended up winning the token for the 7.5 gloves |
| 22:35.52 | Greltok | I found the audible alert with the new version of DBM really helpful for avoiding flame waves. |
| 22:35.52 | steev | run away little girl, run away |
| 22:35.56 | Greltok | Aye., |
| 22:36.06 | Camci | its been there since tbc i think |
| 22:36.08 | steev | first time it did that, i was like, wtf? |
| 22:36.10 | Camci | ^^ |
| 22:36.26 | steev | i thought it meant i had aggro at first |
| 22:36.40 | steev | then again, i never get hit by flame waves anyway |
| 22:37.02 | Camci | time to watch rocknrolla :p |
| 22:37.03 | Camci | laters |
| 22:37.34 | Bruners | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4USyCd4csA&feature=related |
| 22:37.44 | Bruners | awesome song |
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| 22:39.33 | steev | for certain definitions of awesome |
| 22:41.02 | vhaarr | Bruners: impossible to warn you of that |
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| 22:41.34 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith 04v0.85b * r70 : Tagging as v0.85b |
| 22:41.56 | Bruners | vhaarr: because why? |
| 22:42.05 | Bruners | its not a casted spell ? |
| 22:42.24 | vhaarr | yep |
| 22:43.35 | vhaarr | can warn you when it ticks |
| 22:43.39 | vhaarr | but by then you're dead anyway |
| 22:43.41 | vhaarr | most of the time |
| 22:43.57 | Bruners | hmm, is it magic dammage? |
| 22:44.01 | vhaarr | yes |
| 22:44.03 | Zhinjio | drools. |
| 22:44.04 | vhaarr | so DKs can survive |
| 22:44.10 | Bruners | maby it can be dodged with anti magic shell then |
| 22:44.16 | vhaarr | it can |
| 22:44.25 | vhaarr | but you still can't warn about it until after it ticks |
| 22:44.35 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1392 AckisRecipeList.lua: |
| 22:44.37 | Repo | I am an idiot, and it took me about 200 revisions to realize it. |
| 22:44.47 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
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| 22:45.17 | AckisWork | :P |
| 22:45.30 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: can you see if r1392 works when you get a minute? |
| 22:45.33 | Arrowmaster | now i gota see this diff |
| 22:45.53 | AckisWork | lol |
| 22:46.10 | AckisWork | I took out some scoped variables for some reason in r1191, which caused them to all be globals |
| 22:46.14 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 22:46.18 | Arrowmaster | haha |
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| 22:47.28 | AckisWork | no idea wtf I was doing |
| 22:47.31 | AckisWork | at least I caught it? heh |
| 22:48.50 | vhaarr | reminds me, blizzard added a few global vars in 3.0.8, according to the PTR diff I read |
| 22:49.52 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: one moment. |
| 22:50.33 | Bruners | was there not a ora3 in the making ? |
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| 22:51.08 | Zhinjio | AckisWork: testing now |
| 22:52.18 | Zhinjio | looks ok, AckisWork. How thorough of a test do I need to do? |
| 22:52.50 | AckisWork | Zhinjio: just needed to run it basically |
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| 22:52.55 | AckisWork | I made a boo boo that was fixed |
| 22:53.22 | Zhinjio | I've got a few "Unhandled Acquire Case" |
| 22:53.36 | Zhinjio | in JC at least |
| 22:53.42 | AckisWork | oh? |
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| 22:54.17 | Zhinjio | I turned off a few filters |
| 22:54.30 | Zhinjio | "Trainer", "Vendor", "World" and "Mob Drop" are off |
| 22:54.39 | Zhinjio | and suddenly, a bunch of Unhandled Acquire cases are there |
| 22:54.52 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure its a function of your recent change. I suspect its been there for awhile. |
| 22:55.50 | AckisWork | toss me an id to look at? |
| 22:57.31 | Zhinjio | they're all over, in many professions |
| 22:57.33 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis * r68 / (9 files in 2 directories): Update pet db, and fiddle with some code stuff. |
| 22:57.45 | Zhinjio | cooking and jc at least |
| 22:57.54 | AckisWork | can you tell me a recipe to look at? |
| 22:58.04 | Zhinjio | on second |
| 22:58.22 | Zhinjio | Infused Twilight Opal |
| 22:58.32 | Zhinjio | has 4 Unhandled Acquire Case lines |
| 22:59.26 | AckisWork | wtf? |
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| 23:00.48 | AckisWork | I have no clue right now since I didn't touch ARLFrame at all |
| 23:02.46 | thul | ach, i hate lveling my rogue |
| 23:03.50 | NeoTron | thul: then dont? |
| 23:04.35 | Groktar | he needs to be ahead of the curve when rogues become awesome |
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| 23:06.04 | Axodious | stupid canada, stupid cold weather |
| 23:06.13 | AckisWork | huh? |
| 23:06.20 | AckisWork | it's freakin warm here dude |
| 23:06.55 | Axodious | its currently... |
| 23:07.16 | Axodious | -21c with a -29c windchill |
| 23:07.24 | Axodious | last night it was a -35c windchill |
| 23:07.28 | AckisWork | pfft |
| 23:07.32 | AckisWork | had that two weeks ago |
| 23:07.36 | AckisWork | you're an eastern bastard!!! |
| 23:07.37 | Axodious | where you at? |
| 23:07.39 | AckisWork | edmonton |
| 23:07.43 | Axodious | ah, mtl here |
| 23:07.56 | AckisWork | ahh |
| 23:08.42 | thul | NeoTron: i want it to be 80 |
| 23:08.45 | thul | so i can pvp with it |
| 23:09.05 | Bruners | -35? |
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| 23:09.18 | Bruners | are we talking outside or in a freezer? |
| 23:09.46 | AckisWork | lol outside Bruners |
| 23:09.57 | Axodious | lol |
| 23:11.07 | Bruners | -8.6 here atm |
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| 23:15.11 | Zhinjio | ckknight: question about ignore in pkgmeta |
| 23:15.22 | Zhinjio | are globs valid? like... - Docs/*.* |
| 23:16.47 | ckknight | where would the be used in pkgmeta? |
| 23:17.39 | thul | dances |
| 23:18.22 | ckknight | that* |
| 23:18.38 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r39 / (4 files in 2 directories): - doc push |
| 23:18.52 | Zhinjio | I don't want the pkgmeta to package documentation |
| 23:19.09 | Zhinjio | since its used for the wiwki docs and not the package |
| 23:19.15 | Zhinjio | so the Docs |
| 23:19.20 | Zhinjio | directory shouldn't be packaged |
| 23:19.23 | Zhinjio | thus, ignore |
| 23:19.24 | ckknight | ignore: Docs |
| 23:19.28 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 23:19.28 | ckknight | just specify the folder |
| 23:19.33 | ckknight | globs aren't accepted |
| 23:19.47 | Zhinjio | roger dodger. |
| 23:20.02 | ckknight | good movie |
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| 23:20.19 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r40 .pkgmeta: - doc push fix |
| 23:20.23 | Greltok | ckknight: Any chance of a knowledge base article "Documenting your project"? |
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| 23:20.50 | Greltok | I'm looking at the luadoc manual, but it doesn't describe best practices for some stuff. |
| 23:20.54 | Zhinjio | <3 docmeta |
| 23:21.12 | Zhinjio | thank you for adding "wiki" to it |
| 23:21.14 | Greltok | ie. How to document callbacks prototypes. |
| 23:21.33 | Greltok | How to specify parameter types. |
| 23:21.34 | ckknight | Greltok: callbacks prototypes? |
| 23:21.37 | ckknight | ah |
| 23:21.41 | ckknight | yea, I might do it |
| 23:21.45 | Greltok | *callback prototypes. |
| 23:21.45 | ckknight | or convince someone else to |
| 23:21.47 | Greltok | For example. |
| 23:21.57 | ckknight | hey, someone else, do what Greltok wants |
| 23:21.59 | ckknight | or Greltok |
| 23:22.01 | ckknight | you learn it |
| 23:22.04 | ckknight | then make a wiki page |
| 23:22.14 | Greltok | lol |
| 23:22.16 | Greltok | True enough. |
| 23:22.37 | Greltok | I think a lot of it will be "best practices". |
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| 23:23.01 | Greltok | So I'm not sure what conventions you'd like to adopt. |
| 23:25.02 | Greltok | I've been looking for a project that typifies "best practice", but haven't been able to find one. Ace3, for example, doesn't use the format syntax for parameters. |
| 23:25.13 | ckknight | @project libjson-1-0 |
| 23:25.14 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libjson-1-0/. LibJSON-1.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 28 days ago |
| 23:25.16 | ckknight | check out that one |
| 23:25.25 | ckknight | note: I may be the author |
| 23:25.52 | Greltok | Sweet! |
| 23:26.02 | Greltok | That's what I've been looking for. |
| 23:26.59 | ckknight | for a framework that's documented |
| 23:27.01 | ckknight | @project pitbull4 |
| 23:27.02 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author), vangual (Author). Updated: 25 minutes ago. Tickets: 41/79 |
| 23:28.32 | pastamancer | haha, seriously, json? |
| 23:29.39 | Greltok | Also, ckknight, I IRC PMd you a couple of comments on localizing-your-project. |
| 23:29.57 | Repo | 10broker-tradecooldowns: 03Zhinjio * r41 Broker_TradeCooldowns.lua: - re-included koKR (thanks amunra, 7destiny) |
| 23:30.00 | ckknight | did you? |
| 23:30.05 | ckknight | so you did |
| 23:32.10 | Xinhuan | is json expected to be useful in wow? hehe |
| 23:34.23 | taleden | @project liboop |
| 23:34.25 | Repo | taleden: http://www.wowace.com/projects/liboop/. LibOOP. Game: WoW. taleden (Manager/Author). Updated: 6 days ago |
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| 23:34.35 | taleden | also has pretty complete function headers with parameter types, for luadoc |
| 23:34.44 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yes |
| 23:34.47 | ckknight | Xinhuan: for exporting data |
| 23:35.19 | ckknight | Xinhuan: instead of needing to write a lua table parser or whatever, you just use a JSON parser |
| 23:35.45 | Xinhuan | sounds no different to me |
| 23:35.53 | Xinhuan | at the end of the day you still need a parser |
| 23:36.09 | ckknight | but lua table parsers aren't made for you |
| 23:36.12 | ckknight | whereas json parsers are |
| 23:37.47 | Greltok | taleden: Thanks, that looks good too. |
| 23:39.33 | taleden | why aren't table parsers made? or why wouldn't they be? |
| 23:39.53 | Arrowmaster | because exporting data from lua isnt very common |
| 23:40.38 | pastamancer | was json easier to implement than yaml? |
| 23:41.48 | ckknight | pastamancer: yaml's a superset of json |
| 23:41.49 | ckknight | :P |
| 23:41.54 | Shefki | (json(yaml)) |
| 23:42.05 | ckknight | wrong way, Shefki |
| 23:42.12 | Arrowmaster | most json can be parsed as yaml 1.2 |
| 23:42.23 | ckknight | yea, unless you use c-style comments, I think |
| 23:42.27 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.43 | Arrowmaster | does libjson-1.0 only do exporting? |
| 23:43.50 | ckknight | no |
| 23:43.51 | ckknight | it imports |
| 23:44.28 | Arrowmaster | ok i dont really know much about json but im guessing its not as yaml, and i know yaml has more features |
| 23:44.53 | Arrowmaster | meaning to be able to properly import yaml is probably a lot more complex to implement |
| 23:46.19 | ckknight | API reference: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libjson-1-0/pages/api/lib-json-1-0/ |
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| 23:50.21 | NivFreak | god damnit |
| 23:50.26 | NivFreak | they yanked titanguard |
| 23:50.27 | NivFreak | gg blizzard |
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| 23:51.19 | NeoTron | days behind |
| 23:51.22 | NeoTron | it's a good thing |
| 23:51.26 | Zhinjio | ckknight: |
| 23:51.44 | NivFreak | NeoTron: no, it was missing, then reduced to 50, then yanked |
| 23:51.49 | ckknight | Zhinjio: |
| 23:52.06 | Zhinjio | ckknight: is handled-unlocalized='english' the default? |
| 23:52.08 | Zhinjio | I assume so? |
| 23:52.12 | ckknight | no |
| 23:52.14 | ckknight | 'blank' is |
| 23:52.24 | Zhinjio | oh, sorry |
| 23:52.28 | Zhinjio | didn't see it listed there |
| 23:52.28 | ckknight | commented out and blank |
| 23:52.47 | Zhinjio | and I assume it has no effect if you're in the english file |
| 23:52.49 | Zhinjio | yes? |
| 23:53.03 | ckknight | "blank" (default) |
| 23:53.08 | ckknight | correct |
| 23:53.11 | NivFreak | NeoTron: and I fail to see how this is a good thing |
| 23:53.19 | thul | hugs the bunch goodnight. |
| 23:53.24 | ckknight | cya, thul |
| 23:53.40 | Zhinjio | can the parser handle the @localization()@ thinger spanning several lines? |
| 23:54.09 | ckknight | not sure |
| 23:54.13 | NeoTron | NivFreak: see: Burning Crusade, Druid |
| 23:54.14 | ckknight | ...maybe? |
| 23:54.17 | Zhinjio | I guess I'll give it a shot |
| 23:54.19 | Zhinjio | we'll see |
| 23:54.23 | ckknight | it might not |
| 23:54.25 | ckknight | just realize that |
| 23:54.35 | Zhinjio | yup |
| 23:54.40 | Zhinjio | not tagging the push |
| 23:54.46 | NeoTron | do you REALLY want DK's to "depend" on a one-class, one-spec, never-drops, never-upgradable weapon? |
| 23:55.06 | NeoTron | it's not needed today and even less neded in the patch |
| 23:55.17 | NeoTron | if you can't manage to get defense capped in the patch you should stop tankign |
| 23:55.44 | thul | I'm at 510 now, stop bugging me :-P |
| 23:55.55 | NivFreak | NeoTron: I'm talking about the enchant |
| 23:55.58 | NivFreak | 75stam to weapon |
| 23:56.11 | NivFreak | nothing to do with the DK weapons |
| 23:56.24 | NivFreak | those were gone several patches ago |
| 23:56.36 | WobWork | Titanguard, as in the BS DK tanking weapons? |
| 23:56.39 | NeoTron | ah yeah that. |
| 23:56.43 | WobWork | oh what? |
| 23:56.44 | WobWork | the enchant? |
| 23:56.47 | WobWork | damnit! |
| 23:56.52 | NeoTron | similar names are confusing |
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| 23:57.12 | NivFreak | WobWork: yea, so we still have shit for wrath tanking enchants |
| 23:57.19 | NivFreak | I'll continue to fucking mongoose my weapons |
| 23:57.22 | NeoTron | because 50 stamina is bad? |
| 23:57.24 | WobWork | Although I suspect I would never have gotten the mats for the enchant anyway =) |
| 23:57.32 | NivFreak | the mats weren't bad |
| 23:57.39 | WobWork | lots of void crystals? |
| 23:57.50 | NivFreak | a few abyss crystals yes |
| 23:57.57 | Zhinjio | ckknight: it doesn't even make it through the parsecheck on commit. |
| 23:58.02 | NivFreak | a drop in the bucket for gearing a MT |
| 23:58.15 | ckknight | Zhinjio: probably cause it's bad lua |
| 23:58.15 | ckknight | :P |
| 23:58.17 | Zhinjio | ok, wait... I had a typo. |
| 23:58.32 | WobWork | hm, I could never be a MT |
| 23:58.38 | WobWork | too much of a timesink |
| 23:58.44 | WobWork | I'll stick to OTing =P |
| 23:59.20 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * fbbd29f Modules/TotemTimers/TotemTimers.lua: [+1 commit] pbtt: Fix black-font bug |
