| 00:00.01 | Arrowmaster | rapidgame: it probably opened vim then, escape then :wq |
| 00:00.07 | thul | ok, then I'll stay with safari :-) |
| 00:00.15 | rapidgame | Arrowmaster: okay :-) |
| 00:00.16 | Matrix110 | so when you mistype any URL and click it because you didnt look close enough it stays on place #1 always... |
| 00:00.39 | thul | http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/ <- the picture on the bottom right there |
| 00:00.42 | thul | that is the behaviour I hate |
| 00:00.47 | DeadPanda | thul: but, uh.. I just poked in about:config for like 10 seconds and setting 'browser.urlbar.autoFill' makes it act like Safari |
| 00:00.48 | Xinhuan | Matrix110: you can |
| 00:00.53 | Xinhuan | Matrix110: you can remove the entries |
| 00:00.59 | thul | DeadPanda: ach, ok, I'll try then |
| 00:01.00 | Matrix110 | how? |
| 00:01.06 | Xinhuan | just hover your mouse over the entry you want to remove and press "delete" key |
| 00:01.16 | Matrix110 | lol |
| 00:01.19 | Matrix110 | :D |
| 00:01.28 | Xinhuan | its a standard feature in most programs |
| 00:01.32 | Xinhuan | including IE7 IE6 |
| 00:01.35 | Xinhuan | and firefox |
| 00:01.45 | Xinhuan | such as those textbox entries on webforms |
| 00:02.00 | nevcairiel | IE has something that you would consider a "standard feature"? I'm speachless! |
| 00:02.10 | Xinhuan | indeed |
| 00:02.44 | Xinhuan | in any case, my purpose is to inform that you can remove entries ;p |
| 00:02.48 | DeadPanda | thul: I've left that turned on too - didn't even realise I could do it :) |
| 00:02.52 | Arrowmaster | i wish i could customize the firefox search bar, like make it completely ignore any bookmarks with a certain tag |
| 00:03.50 | Arrowmaster | ment address bar |
| 00:03.56 | rapidgame | YAY! I think i finally got my project on curseforge using git. |
| 00:04.01 | Endeavour[EU]_ | ...like sex, porn and so on? ^^ |
| 00:04.36 | DeadPanda | rapidgame: what's with everyone migrating to git recently, has it hit "critical mass"? |
| 00:05.21 | Arrowmaster | and i wish my shortcuts for the search bar made the address bar act like the search bar with the suggestions thingy it does, like i have google setup to use the keyword 'gg' so instead of using the search bar i just type gg followed by the query in the address bar |
| 00:05.24 | Xinhuan | DeadPanda: because its better |
| 00:05.24 | thul | DeadPanda: now it works ok, I'll let you know when I find the next quirk :-P |
| 00:05.26 | Xinhuan | local entire repo history |
| 00:05.32 | Arrowmaster | but it doesnt have the suggestions like the search bar does |
| 00:05.33 | Xinhuan | is a very big advantage |
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| 00:06.22 | Xinhuan | and having an intermediate staging area for commits is another big one |
| 00:07.12 | DeadPanda | Xinhuan: hmm, the staging does sound nice, better than bazaar too |
| 00:07.44 | thul | http://www.livescribe.com/ <- do we want a pulse smartpen? |
| 00:08.15 | DeadPanda | does it shoot lasers? |
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| 00:09.23 | thul | and what should I upgrade next: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Nyxos |
| 00:09.40 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r14 / (13 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
| 00:09.42 | Repo | !!!Important need to delete tomQuest2 savedVariables!!! |
| 00:09.45 | Repo | Switch to module system |
| 00:09.47 | Repo | Switch to wowace localization system |
| 00:09.50 | Repo | add the following options |
| 00:09.56 | rapidgame | DeadPanda: Well i didnt have any revision control, i only went to git after ckknigh laughted at me for uploading zips haha ;-) |
| 00:11.28 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 00:12.04 | rapidgame | so does the packager create an alpha package as soon as you git push? |
| 00:12.11 | Xinhuan | by default, yes |
| 00:12.17 | Pneumatus | thul: badge neck |
| 00:12.27 | Xinhuan | you may change settings to only beta/release tags |
| 00:12.31 | thul | Pneumatus: hmm, how much does that cost? 20? |
| 00:12.44 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r15 locales/enUS.lua: minor update to the enUS.lua for the packager |
| 00:12.58 | Pneumatus | 25 iirc |
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| 00:13.28 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40678 |
| 00:13.39 | thul | ah, ok |
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| 00:14.16 | Pneumatus | you also want the badge trinket |
| 00:14.19 | Pneumatus | as that's pro also |
| 00:14.59 | Pneumatus | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40684 40 badges |
| 00:15.39 | rapidgame | Should i add optional-dependencies: to my pkgmeta? |
| 00:16.12 | Pneumatus | rapidgame: the packager works it out from externals if you dont specify them afaik |
| 00:16.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 00:16.56 | rapidgame | sweet |
| 00:17.23 | Skellum | http://www.ghastlycomic.com/d/20060409.html NSFW, Hot Lemony Action |
| 00:18.41 | rapidgame | is it possible to delete files project files from curse forge? |
| 00:18.59 | ckknight | I wish lua had continue |
| 00:19.06 | ckknight | rapidgame: yes, go to the file, actions -> delete file |
| 00:19.12 | Pneumatus | thul: if you aren't running nax25 you will also want to collect 30(iirc) venture co coins ready for the next patch to buy a new sigil |
| 00:19.27 | Pneumatus | i wish lua had continue too :< |
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| 00:20.29 | ckknight | Pneumatus: they gave it to the WAR people |
| 00:20.33 | ckknight | :P |
| 00:20.39 | rapidgame | ckknight: thanks, i always seem to forget that actions dropdown is hidden up there in the corner |
| 00:20.50 | ckknight | check there next time :P |
| 00:21.23 | rapidgame | ckknight: yeah, will do haha - is there any protocol on deleting files? |
| 00:21.40 | ckknight | no protocol, it's your project |
| 00:22.11 | rapidgame | so just leave what ever ones you want on there? |
| 00:22.25 | ckknight | yes |
| 00:22.38 | rapidgame | cool |
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| 00:27.47 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r34 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: Table indices can't be nil. |
| 00:29.46 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_ChannelWatch |
| 00:29.47 | Repo | -added text display of #channels/#members to the display |
| 00:32.12 | Repo | 10broker-channelwatch: 03Morgalm 04v1.1 * r6 : Tagging as v1.1 |
| 00:39.35 | rapidgame | anyway to specify whether your project is beta or release through git? |
| 00:40.31 | Xinhuan | tag it, read knowledge base |
| 00:43.06 | rapidgame | any page in particular? |
| 00:44.14 | rapidgame | dw, found it |
| 00:47.24 | Groktar | using bt4, is there a way to have bar1 hidden except for when you're possessing? |
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| 00:47.37 | rapidgame | looking at the Omen Threat Meter files page, all the alphas have -3-g8cdf4fa or something similar appened to the tag. is this manually done? what does the g8cdf4fa part indicate? |
| 00:48.21 | Xinhuan | its the commit id |
| 00:48.32 | Xinhuan | -3- <-- means 3 commits from the last tag |
| 00:48.41 | Xinhuan | g8cdf4fa is the git commit id |
| 00:49.03 | Arrowmaster | just the first 8 characters of the commit id |
| 00:49.36 | Arrowmaster | its really a lot longer but in a single project just the first 8 tends to be unique enough |
| 00:50.38 | rapidgame | so does git automatically tag that? or is there a specific command you use? |
| 00:50.52 | Arrowmaster | git tag -a |
| 00:51.04 | Arrowmaster | git tag -a <name> |
| 00:51.44 | Xinhuan | git tag -a -m "commit/tag message" tag name |
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| 00:52.45 | rapidgame | thanks :-) |
| 00:53.08 | rapidgame | oh, and does the packager only specify between alphas and releases, do betas need to be done manually? |
| 00:53.10 | Xinhuan | then you have to "git push --tags" to include tags to push |
| 00:53.16 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 00:53.31 | Xinhuan | all commits are alphas |
| 00:53.39 | Xinhuan | you can tag betas/releases |
| 00:53.47 | Xinhuan | the name of the tag itself will determine if its a beta or a release tag |
| 00:55.03 | Xinhuan | that is, you as an author, choose to define at what stage your addon is to be a beta or a release for others to use |
| 00:56.32 | rapidgame | Cool, thanks |
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| 01:00.41 | |Nizomi| | so, why can't i find the ticket that i posted earlier |
| 01:01.29 | rapidgame | do you have to change the version in the TOC when updating, you are you able to use one of the |
| 01:01.29 | rapidgame | Repository keyword substitutions |
| 01:02.04 | Xinhuan | you don't have to use that |
| 01:02.19 | |Nizomi| | can tickets be deleted? |
| 01:02.20 | Xinhuan | if you prefer to manually update your version numbers |
| 01:02.39 | Xinhuan | yes tickets can be deleted |
| 01:02.42 | Xinhuan | but generally they are closed |
| 01:02.42 | |Nizomi| | :/ |
| 01:02.58 | |Nizomi| | well i posted a ticket about that Sigils thingy |
| 01:03.01 | Xinhuan | what ticket is this |
| 01:03.07 | Xinhuan | what sigils thingy |
| 01:03.25 | |Nizomi| | error from LibBabble-Zone-3.0 |
| 01:03.33 | |Nizomi| | Translation "Sigils" not found for deDE |
| 01:04.03 | Xinhuan | Sigils is a zone name? |
| 01:04.10 | rapidgame | do you use keyword substitutions for your version fields? |
| 01:04.26 | Xinhuan | rapidgame: i don't, but you can |
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| 01:04.38 | Xinhuan | the version substitution would just be the name of your tag |
| 01:04.38 | |Nizomi| | Xinhuan: dunno? |
| 01:04.48 | Xinhuan | are u even sure its libbabble zone? |
| 01:05.04 | Xinhuan | whats your user name |
| 01:05.11 | |Nizomi| | well Swatter says it is xD |
| 01:05.22 | |Nizomi| | on curse? |
| 01:05.30 | Xinhuan | on wherever you reported it |
| 01:05.50 | |Nizomi| | HolySheepy |
| 01:06.09 | |Nizomi| | oh wait |
| 01:06.18 | |Nizomi| | now that a weird one xD |
| 01:06.32 | |Nizomi| | may be libbabble-inventory :o |
| 01:06.48 | Xinhuan | where did u report it |
| 01:07.08 | |Nizomi| | wowace.com libbabble-zones-3.0 |
| 01:07.27 | Xinhuan | i don't see anything in the logs regarding tickets from you heh |
| 01:07.57 | Xinhuan | the log says you created 2 pasteys on jan 11, and agreed to TOU on Dec 23, that's it |
| 01:08.16 | |Nizomi| | ..toBar\libs\LibBabble-Zone-3.0\LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua:61: LibBabble-Inventory-3.0: Translation "Sigils" not found for locale "deDE" |
| 01:08.21 | |Nizomi| | why does it mention zone and inventory? |
| 01:08.35 | Xinhuan | i don't know HAHA |
| 01:09.38 | Xinhuan | in any case, there is no logs saying you have ever made a ticket |
| 01:09.47 | Xinhuan | on that wowace account at least |
| 01:12.25 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * 23ba4c9 / (22 files in 9 directories): [+17 commits] (13 truncated) |
| 01:12.27 | Repo | 23ba4c9: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/pitbull4/mainline.git |
| 01:12.30 | Repo | e13d17b: Minor cleanup |
| 01:12.33 | Repo | 2062117: [DogTagTexts] add Absolute and Percent for Power. Add some checks to make it so all codes are cleaned. |
| 01:12.36 | Repo | 6ab97f4: bugfix |
| 01:12.54 | |Nizomi| | oh |
| 01:13.02 | |Nizomi| | that thing is a preview button, now a send button xD |
| 01:13.25 | |Nizomi| | *not |
| 01:13.25 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 01:13.32 | |Nizomi| | heh |
| 01:14.01 | |Nizomi| | i'm used to 1 button: "send" or 2 buttons "send" "preview" :p |
| 01:14.24 | waallen | jnwhiteh: that tinyadventures application is addicting |
| 01:14.35 | |Nizomi| | waallen: gimme |
| 01:14.48 | Arrowmaster | LibBabble-Zone-3.0 and LibBabble-Inventory-3.0 both use LibBabble-3.0 which is included in all the LibBabble-*-3.0 libs and apparently Zone loaded before Inventory for you or Zone contains a newer LibBabble-3.0 so thats why its in the error message |
| 01:15.06 | waallen | http://apps.facebook.com/tinyadventures/ |
| 01:15.21 | |Nizomi| | meh facebook |
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| 01:15.46 | |Nizomi| | well going to bed then, after now (really) posting the ticket xD |
| 01:15.47 | |Nizomi| | gn8 |
| 01:16.07 | ckknight | waallen: feel free to add me as a friend if you want buffs |
| 01:19.10 | waallen | think I have to add you to FB friends first don't I? |
| 01:19.26 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:20.41 | *** join/#wowace fRu23 (n=opera@ip72-192-216-42.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 01:20.55 | fRu23 | Is this for world of warcraft |
| 01:21.12 | doom0r | depends on what "this" is |
| 01:21.48 | Bruners | my guess is that "this" is this channel |
| 01:21.51 | ckknight | no, it's a D&D facebook app |
| 01:21.57 | doom0r | lol |
| 01:22.00 | doom0r | he just joined ckk |
| 01:22.10 | ckknight | ...I stand by my statement |
| 01:22.15 | Bruners | haha |
| 01:22.29 | waallen | I can't find your first name :-D. |
| 01:22.39 | ckknight | waallen: I'm Cameron Kenneth Knight |
| 01:22.40 | ckknight | :P |
| 01:22.47 | waallen | true! |
| 01:23.05 | waallen | done |
| 01:23.06 | Xinhuan | is Knight really part of your name? |
| 01:23.36 | doom0r | yes, ckk's really black, no one knows though |
| 01:23.36 | Bruners | http://www.new.facebook.com/s.php?ref=search&init=q&q=Cameron%20Kenneth%20Knight&sid=1ad9f3c59cb24a2b75a9ebda6bb28712 |
| 01:24.02 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yes, it's my last name |
| 01:24.13 | ckknight | you found me, bruners |
| 01:24.45 | Bruners | adds ckk as friend |
| 01:24.47 | ckknight | Xinhuan: why else would my handle be this way? |
| 01:25.00 | Xinhuan | i don't know ;p |
| 01:25.12 | doom0r | well...... you ARE talking about a D&D facebook app ftlog |
| 01:25.14 | Xinhuan | knight tends to be a RPG term |
| 01:25.17 | Torhal | ckknight: Chronically Kinky Knight |
| 01:25.33 | Xinhuan | and isn't too unusual for an online handle |
| 01:25.53 | Torhal | Yah, much better than lolknight183562 |
| 01:26.01 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no, my 13th-century ancestors managed the horses for one of the English lords. |
| 01:26.27 | ckknight | back then, they were cnehts, not knights, though |
| 01:26.31 | ckknight | :P |
| 01:26.36 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 01:26.43 | Torhal | Kniggit! |
| 01:27.09 | ckknight | Torhal: actually close to "K'neekt" |
| 01:27.14 | Xinhuan | cnehts isn't pronouncable to me hehe |
| 01:27.23 | ckknight | Xinhuan: old English writing |
| 01:28.15 | waallen | ready to get buffed! |
| 01:28.52 | FtH|Daemona | hehe did you know the german for that is "Knecht" and almost sounds like "K'neekt" |
| 01:29.13 | doom0r | so.... |
| 01:29.16 | Bruners | my local term for knight is knækt :P |
| 01:29.27 | doom0r | apparently if someone has you on a friends list and is using carbonite, you get addom spam from them |
| 01:29.52 | Zhinjio | ckknight: can a config mode put a "sample" into the castbar? |
| 01:29.53 | ckknight | FtH|Daemona: yea, pre-Norman English was far closer to German than it is now |
| 01:29.59 | Xinhuan | yes.. it does friends syncing to share quests in carbonite quest |
| 01:30.01 | ckknight | Zhinjio: file a ticket, yes. |
| 01:30.05 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 01:30.11 | Zhinjio | aw hell, I forgot to update. |
| 01:30.23 | ckknight | it "could" |
| 01:30.28 | FtH|Daemona | ticket is my keyword ... where is the funkeh dude again? he doesnt read his badboy tickets on wowace.... |
| 01:30.29 | ckknight | but I need a ticket for it, is all |
| 01:30.45 | Zhinjio | no problem, I'll file one right away |
| 01:30.48 | doom0r | i've got 121 damn messages already in a few minutes from 1 person |
| 01:31.12 | Xinhuan | you can't do much about it |
| 01:31.15 | Xinhuan | so, dont' worry about it |
| 01:31.17 | doom0r | sure i can |
| 01:31.21 | doom0r | i'll bitch at blizz |
| 01:31.25 | Xinhuan | well you could put him on the ignore list |
| 01:31.32 | Xinhuan | and he'll get spammed back |
| 01:32.07 | Xinhuan | blizz won't do anything, since its not blizz code |
| 01:32.35 | doom0r | when i'm not using it and it's affecting me it has nothing to do with "blizz code" or not |
| 01:32.55 | Xinhuan | how is receive addon messages affecting you |
| 01:32.58 | Xinhuan | receiving* |
| 01:33.09 | Zhinjio | done |
| 01:33.39 | doom0r | imagine 20 people spamming you |
| 01:33.43 | Xinhuan | are you going to complain to blizz about how 20 other addons use addon channels and spam you too? |
| 01:33.49 | FtH|Daemona | Xinhuan just try to imagine a raid with shadowpriests and affliction warlocks using dotimer and broadcasting their dot duration in the addon channel ;) |
| 01:34.02 | vhaarr | you don't have to imagine any more |
| 01:34.05 | Xinhuan | yeah but it doesn't affect you, its not like you SEE the spam |
| 01:34.07 | vhaarr | I made Broker_CMA for this |
| 01:34.47 | Zhinjio | ckknight: thats *exactly* what I meant about the enable/disable greying out. Thank you. |
| 01:34.51 | Zhinjio | that looks awesome. |
| 01:35.10 | ckknight | Zhinjio: :-) |
| 01:35.10 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: it affects you in the sense that you have to process the excess data traffic that you don't want in the first place, if you're using a wireless connection or some bad broadband connections, this will actually disconnect you from the server |
| 01:35.16 | ckknight | Zhinjio: I'm doing the bar provider stuff now |
| 01:35.35 | Xinhuan | well, there's no solutino to that one vhaarr |
| 01:35.35 | doom0r | simple, if i'm getting spammed it's eating a portion of what it takes to get d/c'd |
| 01:36.02 | Xinhuan | unless blizz implements addon namespacing on the server side |
| 01:36.04 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: yeah there is, they can cut down on the inherit client data traffic, which in itself amounts to around 25kb/s in raids |
| 01:36.12 | vhaarr | which is insane |
| 01:36.25 | vhaarr | for a game |
| 01:37.31 | vhaarr | ckknight: wowace.com isn't working here |
| 01:37.37 | vhaarr | times out |
| 01:37.39 | Zhinjio | ckknight: when was libsimplesticky added in? |
| 01:37.44 | ckknight | Zhinjio: today |
| 01:37.47 | Zhinjio | ok. |
| 01:37.55 | Zhinjio | no wonder I'm getting failures. I'll grab it |
| 01:37.58 | ckknight | vhaarr: good here |
| 01:38.04 | FtH|Daemona | same here |
| 01:38.06 | ckknight | Zhinjio: it should be included, fully restart WoW |
| 01:38.06 | vhaarr | yeah wtf |
| 01:38.14 | vhaarr | there it is |
| 01:38.26 | vhaarr | doom0r, FtH|Daemona: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-cma/ |
| 01:38.37 | FtH|Daemona | already installed ;) |
| 01:38.40 | vhaarr | quite interesting to watch during raids |
| 01:38.41 | doom0r | ya, i saw it when you upped it |
| 01:38.42 | Zhinjio | I'm trying to run disembedded |
| 01:38.53 | FtH|Daemona | anyone using Broker_SysMon ? |
| 01:38.57 | vhaarr | me |
| 01:39.03 | FtH|Daemona | its not shwoing mouse over tooltips with stats for me |
| 01:39.09 | vhaarr | yeah it doesn't do that |
| 01:39.17 | FtH|Daemona | and i cant click the icons |
| 01:39.24 | FtH|Daemona | so its kinda... useless? ;) |
| 01:39.26 | vhaarr | to do what? |
| 01:39.38 | FtH|Daemona | dunno, i am running my broker icons only :X |
| 01:39.45 | vhaarr | then it's useless yes :P |
| 01:39.52 | vhaarr | broker_sysmon needs label display |
| 01:39.53 | ckknight | Zhinjio: sorry, can't |
| 01:40.02 | ckknight | Zhinjio: there's no project for LibSimpleSticky |
| 01:40.04 | vhaarr | FtH|Daemona: and, eh, so does _CMA |
| 01:40.10 | vhaarr | I'll "fix" that |
| 01:41.00 | theoddone33 | is there anything that shows invisible frames? |
| 01:41.03 | Silowyi | is there a way to macro a profession link? |
| 01:41.10 | Zhinjio | I see that now |
| 01:41.12 | Zhinjio | exiting |
| 01:41.14 | theoddone33 | I have an area on my ui where if I click and drag it doesn't scroll the camera |
| 01:41.16 | Silowyi | or just some sort of way I can advertise LFW without having to type it out every time |
| 01:41.23 | theoddone33 | most likely because there's some ui frame there that doesn't do anything |
| 01:41.29 | theoddone33 | and I'd like to figure out what it is and move it |
| 01:42.51 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I'm doing something wrong apparently: http://www.wowace.com/paste/158/ |
| 01:42.52 | FtH|Daemona | theoddone33 copy paste this into your chat and mouseover the spot -> http://ace.pastey.net/106538 |
| 01:43.03 | FtH|Daemona | then hit enter |
| 01:43.10 | ckknight | Zhinjio: gnomes? |
| 01:43.20 | ckknight | Zhinjio: check in libs, is SimpleSticky.lua in there? |
| 01:43.24 | Zhinjio | yes |
| 01:43.33 | ckknight | add a print statement in? |
| 01:43.55 | Repo | 10broker-cma: 03Rabbit * r5 cma.lua: |
| 01:43.58 | Repo | Add the current average to the tooltip, for broker displays that only show the icon. |
| 01:44.09 | vhaarr | FtH|Daemona: note that the tooltip doesn't update while it's open |
| 01:44.22 | doom0r | carbonite sends a mesasge every 4 seconds |
| 01:44.27 | Shefki | Zhinjio: Shut down the game entirely? Because there are new files... *shrug* |
| 01:44.33 | Zhinjio | I did. |
| 01:44.35 | FtH|Daemona | vhaarr which is perfect, because a steadily changing display is disturbing when looking at it ;) |
| 01:44.42 | vhaarr | ye true :P |
| 01:45.16 | vhaarr | that's why I have my sysmon+cma blocks dimmed down to 50% transparency and in a gray color |
| 01:45.26 | Zhinjio | that error occurs on an attempt to drag the frame |
| 01:45.28 | vhaarr | so they don't catch my eyes accidentally |
| 01:45.29 | Zhinjio | player frame |
| 01:45.38 | FtH|Daemona | i'd bet i could do totally without brokers |
| 01:45.40 | theoddone33 | FtH|Daemona: I got... attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 01:45.43 | theoddone33 | when I was in that spot |
| 01:45.50 | theoddone33 | but it worked when I'm not in that spot |
| 01:45.54 | FtH|Daemona | because i have one bar, without text and show on mouse over ;) |
| 01:45.56 | ckknight | Zhinjio: did the print statement print out? |
| 01:46.02 | FtH|Daemona | theoddone33 then you need professional help ;) |
| 01:46.26 | FtH|Daemona | its just something i have in a macro for over 2 years since i had a similar problem and ckknight told me to try that ;) |
| 01:46.44 | ckknight | what's all this, then? |
| 01:47.05 | theoddone33 | I printed the table |
| 01:47.10 | theoddone33 | with /print GetMouseFocus() |
| 01:47.16 | theoddone33 | that should hopefully help me figure it out |
| 01:47.28 | doom0r | install devtools |
| 01:47.38 | doom0r | always nice to have dtframestack at the ready |
| 01:47.46 | theoddone33 | except everything says "anon" |
| 01:47.48 | theoddone33 | hm |
| 01:47.49 | doom0r | no thought process involved ;x |
| 01:47.54 | theoddone33 | type checkbox |
| 01:48.24 | doom0r | theoddone33: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info3999-DevTools.html |
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| 01:49.18 | theoddone33 | hm, nice |
| 01:50.59 | thul | hmm, warlock, another class my DK can't touch |
| 01:51.03 | thul | i just HATE dk in pvp :-P |
| 01:51.37 | theoddone33 | everyone does |
| 01:51.57 | Zhinjio | ckknight: give me a minute please. |
| 01:52.04 | Zhinjio | I haven't opened the file yet |
| 01:52.36 | thul | i so regret leveling the dk first :-P |
| 01:52.40 | thul | SHOULD HAVE STARTED WITH THE ROGUE :-P |
| 01:54.47 | fRu23 | hello how does recruit a freind work |
| 01:55.01 | fRu23 | and how do I down load online |
| 01:57.12 | fRu23 | hello? |
| 01:57.29 | theoddone33 | it's all on the WoW site |
| 01:58.17 | JJ1997 | I cant were |
| 01:58.23 | JJ1997 | where? |
| 01:59.24 | vhaarr | this is starting to look like trade chat ingame |
| 02:00.02 | Torhal | JJ1997: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 02:00.07 | Torhal | All your answers are there. |
| 02:00.09 | thul | seriously, locks.. |
| 02:00.12 | thul | seriously |
| 02:01.16 | ulic | vhaarr: is bigwigs_debugger pretty much dead? |
| 02:01.21 | vhaarr | yes |
| 02:01.30 | vhaarr | unless you fix it |
| 02:01.49 | doom0r | http://us.blizzard.com/support/index.xml?gameId=11 |
| 02:01.56 | doom0r | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20588&categoryId=2317&parentCategoryId=&pageNumber=1 |
| 02:02.25 | ulic | Was thinking about it, some of my users thought it might be a nice idea where the developer could set something in a boss mod activate transcriptor or similar, for bosses that needed logs. |
| 02:02.27 | thul | or generally, I suck at dk pvp :-( |
| 02:02.44 | ulic | to activate |
| 02:03.33 | vhaarr | ulic: that's not a bad idea, you could add that to Transcriptor though |
| 02:03.42 | vhaarr | read a mod.transcript flag |
| 02:03.52 | vhaarr | anyway time for bed |
| 02:03.58 | ulic | ok, night. |
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| 02:11.36 | Bruners | hmm, why wont my localization vars work when i export them to their own file ? |
| 02:12.04 | ckknight | got an error log? |
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| 02:12.20 | Bruners | no errors, they just dont show |
| 02:12.24 | falconindy1 | Can anyone tell me if the latest version of the curse client (2.0.0.14) is the rewrite by Kaelten? |
| 02:12.36 | Zhinjio | falconindy1: no. |
| 02:12.49 | falconindy1 | Zhinjio: is there a beta release? |
| 02:12.55 | Zhinjio | alpha |
| 02:12.59 | Zhinjio | its nearly in beta |
| 02:13.09 | falconindy1 | I'd still be interested if you have a link handy |
| 02:13.21 | Bruners | ckknight: shouldnt it be enough to load my locals.lua before the addon in the toc ? |
| 02:13.31 | ckknight | and fully restart WoW? |
| 02:13.51 | Zhinjio | I do not, actually. anyone else? |
| 02:13.53 | ckknight | falconindy1: check the topic. |
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| 02:14.13 | falconindy1 | topic doesn't seem to have the link anymore |
| 02:14.25 | falconindy1 | OH, nevermind |
| 02:14.38 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 02:14.43 | Bruners | ckknight: if i copy paste them back to the addon file itselfe it works :S |
| 02:15.03 | ckknight | Bruners: gonna answer me? |
| 02:15.13 | Groktar | grrr |
| 02:15.20 | Bruners | ckknight: i have restarted yes |
| 02:15.30 | ckknight | any errors? |
| 02:15.33 | Bruners | ckknight: nope |
| 02:15.37 | ckknight | you _sure_? |
| 02:15.55 | Bruners | ckknight: i cant see any atleast |
| 02:16.10 | ckknight | Bruners: check framexml.log |
| 02:17.00 | Hjalte | Does anyone know, if I can use EQDKP plugins in EQDKP Plus? |
| 02:19.01 | Bruners | ckknight: nothing |
| 02:19.08 | ckknight | yea, I have no idea |
| 02:19.17 | ckknight | Bruners: zip it up, post it somewhere |
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| 02:20.51 | rapidgame | so any easy way to amend the commit-id to a tag? |
| 02:21.05 | Xinhuan | you don't |
| 02:21.29 | Bruners | ckknight: http://lasseb.tihlde.org/TipCounter.rar |
| 02:21.35 | Xinhuan | a tag is not supposed to have commit-IDs |
| 02:21.35 | ckknight | I said zip |
| 02:21.37 | ckknight | rars are lame |
| 02:21.41 | ckknight | downloads |
| 02:21.50 | Xinhuan | that's the whole point of a tag - to name a commit in english so you don't have to use commitIDs |
| 02:22.09 | rapidgame | Omen-v3.0.5-3-g8cdf4fa-nolib.zip - thats the package name, with the tag, and commit id right? |
| 02:22.12 | Bruners | ckknight: http://lasseb.tihlde.org/TipCounter.zip |
| 02:22.17 | Xinhuan | yes but that's not a tag |
| 02:22.20 | Xinhuan | that's just a commit |
| 02:22.23 | ckknight | rapidgame: that's 3 revision after the tag |
| 02:22.29 | Xinhuan | and its an auto generated zip |
| 02:22.31 | ckknight | Bruners: I got your rar version |
| 02:22.34 | Xinhuan | its alpha |
| 02:22.44 | rapidgame | is that named like that automatically? |
| 02:22.50 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:22.56 | ckknight | Bruners: okay, I see the issue immediately |
| 02:23.01 | ckknight | Bruners: everything is local to the file. |
| 02:23.13 | ckknight | Bruners: you need to have them be global |
| 02:23.19 | ckknight | or like a sane person, don't use that format |
| 02:23.22 | ckknight | L_BLAH = "Blah" |
| 02:23.24 | ckknight | ick |
| 02:23.26 | ckknight | namespaces ftw |
| 02:23.30 | ckknight | L["Blah"] = "Blah" is nice |
| 02:23.36 | rapidgame | so you just specified a tag "v3.0.5" and a package name "Omen" and the packager did the rest? |
| 02:23.40 | Bruners | its my first approach on this :P |
| 02:23.43 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:23.54 | Xinhuan | see the commit history/tags of omen |
| 02:23.54 | ckknight | Bruners: I also recommend using AceLocale-3.0, it's a nice setup and takes care of things for you |
| 02:24.02 | Xinhuan | use git gui |
| 02:24.08 | Xinhuan | view omen's history |
| 02:24.09 | rapidgame | if i wanted to define it as a beta release, would i then name the tag "beta"? |
| 02:24.15 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 02:24.16 | rapidgame | kk |
| 02:24.23 | Xinhuan | if the tag name contains the word "beta" |
| 02:24.27 | Xinhuan | it will be a beta zip |
| 02:24.40 | Xinhuan | so you could name it "v3.0.6beta" |
| 02:24.47 | Xinhuan | for example |
| 02:25.58 | rapidgame | so the format for tagging is git tag -a -m "v3.0.6" then a tag name? |
| 02:26.18 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 02:26.26 | Xinhuan | the stuff in the "" is just the tag comment |
| 02:26.34 | ckknight | git tag -a "v3.0.6" -m "Tagging as v3.0.6" |
| 02:26.46 | rapidgame | for example git tag -a -m "v3.0.6" alpha |
| 02:26.52 | Xinhuan | git tag -a -m "Tagging as v3.0.6" v3.0.6 |
| 02:26.53 | ckknight | no. |
| 02:26.58 | Xinhuan | also works |
| 02:27.03 | ckknight | what I or Xinhuan is good |
| 02:27.07 | rapidgame | kk |
| 02:27.17 | Xinhuan | [1/18 10:26:31] <rapidgame> for example git tag -a -m "v3.0.6" alpha |
| 02:27.23 | Xinhuan | that would make a tag called "alpha" |
| 02:27.33 | Xinhuan | and the tagging comment would be "v3.0.6" |
| 02:27.41 | rapidgame | does the packager check the comments? |
| 02:27.42 | Xinhuan | since the tag is "alpha" you would end up producing a "alpha.zip" |
| 02:27.46 | Xinhuan | which isn't what you want |
| 02:27.59 | JJ1997 | can someone recruitme please? |
| 02:28.29 | Zhinjio | into what? The Republican party? |
| 02:28.33 | doom0r | go i need to replace my instant poison sound or at least with a much quieter version |
| 02:28.38 | doom0r | god* |
| 02:28.43 | JJ1997 | huh |
| 02:28.45 | JJ1997 | please |
| 02:28.57 | JJ1997 | I want the zebra an 3X points |
| 02:29.20 | Torhal | Dude. Go to worldofwarcraft.com |
| 02:29.28 | doom0r | this isn't a general wow channel, please don't treat it like trade chat |
| 02:29.36 | rapidgame | so git tag -a v1.0.0 -m "Tagging v1.0.0" would create a release version? |
| 02:29.36 | Bruners | ckknight: so instead of refering to L_BLAH i do L['BLAH'] ? |
| 02:29.46 | Bruners | ckknight: with acelocale |
| 02:29.46 | JJ1997 | what is it foer? |
| 02:29.49 | ckknight | Bruners: that's the idea, though I prefer L["Blah"] |
| 02:29.51 | Zhinjio | I still think you'd make a good republican |
| 02:30.07 | doom0r | well, if you actually read the topic, that usually tells you |
| 02:30.40 | JJ1997 | I am a proggressive reblican |
| 02:30.47 | ckknight | JJ1997: http://tinyurl.com/ax85ls |
| 02:30.49 | Zhinjio | omg |
| 02:31.11 | rapidgame | actually, Git Gui and the Omen git seems to have cleared things up for me |
| 02:31.13 | Torhal | doom0r: Chances that someone who's completely clueless to the point of NOT knowing to go to worldofwarcraft.com would actually find the WoWAce IRC channel? |
| 02:31.17 | Torhal | I'm thinking nil. |
| 02:31.42 | JJ1997 | ckknight i need to download the game first |
| 02:31.50 | Torhal | Go to the site. |
| 02:32.15 | JJ1997 | I cant find it |
| 02:32.21 | ckknight | go to the link I posted |
| 02:32.21 | Torhal | ... |
| 02:32.23 | ckknight | we're done here. |
| 02:32.36 | ckknight | http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=World+of+Warcraft+Refer+a+Friend also works |
| 02:32.55 | JJ1997 | ok |
| 02:33.24 | JJ1997 | I did but I need to buy the game and burning crudsade so i can be a blood elff |
| 02:33.42 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.55 | JJ1997 | I want a dragon |
| 02:34.06 | Torhal | I want this prank to end. |
| 02:34.37 | ckknight | JJ1997: this is the wrong place to be asking these questions |
| 02:34.40 | FtH|Daemona | ckknight i got something to add to the wanted list of that cute person.... i gonna sponsor a channel flag +b |
| 02:34.40 | *** mode/#wowace [+b *!*@ip72-192-216-42.dc.dc.cox.net] by ckknight |
| 02:34.41 | *** kick/#wowace [JJ1997!n=ckknight@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/CurseStaff/CurseForge/ckknight] by ckknight (ckknight) |
| 02:34.44 | ckknight | crisis averted. |
| 02:34.51 | FtH|Daemona | o.O |
| 02:35.10 | FtH|Daemona | that was impressingly fast |
| 02:35.15 | ckknight | I already started |
| 02:35.17 | ckknight | before you said that |
| 02:35.19 | doom0r | i wouldn't have waited that long |
| 02:35.23 | Torhal | Heh |
| 02:35.42 | *** mode/#wowace [-b *!*@ip72-192-216-42.dc.dc.cox.net] by ckknight |
| 02:35.51 | ckknight | I don't think he'll come back |
| 02:35.55 | ckknight | that was just to get him gone |
| 02:36.04 | FtH|Daemona | poor guy, 11 and already that confused ;) |
| 02:36.43 | Bruners | amusing that he found this channel |
| 02:36.46 | ckknight | yea |
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| 02:40.38 | Kyahx | has anyone used LibStickyFrames-2.0? Know of a good simple example of it? |
| 02:40.53 | ckknight | Kyahx: I tried to today |
| 02:41.03 | ckknight | I now use LibSimpleSticky-1.0 |
| 02:41.07 | Kyahx | the API is somewhat confusing |
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| 02:41.31 | Kyahx | what is / where can I find LibSimpleSticky |
| 02:41.54 | ckknight | I stole it from Bartender4 |
| 02:41.59 | ckknight | there is no project |
| 02:42.03 | ckknight | it's got a good API, though |
| 02:42.07 | ckknight | using it for PitBull4 now |
| 02:42.11 | Kyahx | mmk |
| 02:42.15 | ckknight | far more self-explanatory |
| 02:43.29 | Toadkiller | does libsimpolesticky do groups of stuff? |
| 02:44.20 | Bruners | ckknight: in your libs.xml for pb4 you got script file="...." for two and the rest include file="..", what is the difference ? |
| 02:44.27 | Kyahx | Toadkiller: dosen't appear to |
| 02:44.33 | ckknight | Bruners: xml vs. lua |
| 02:44.41 | ckknight | Toadkiller: yes, it does |
| 02:44.45 | ckknight | Kyahx: it does. |
| 02:44.46 | Bruners | ckknight: aha |
| 02:44.48 | Kyahx | oh? |
| 02:44.54 | ckknight | yea, you pass in a list of frames |
| 02:44.56 | Bruners | ckknight: should have figured that out |
| 02:45.14 | Xinhuan | that's why its easier to just load from TOC ;p |
| 02:45.39 | ckknight | lol |
| 02:46.01 | Toadkiller | Sweet, I may switch to it then and dump libsticky, which also came from the same origin. I have at any rate been too lazy to rewrite it so far. |
| 02:47.49 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I'm gonna wipe and reinstall embedded versions. I can't test that and this at the same time. The mix of the two is fail. |
| 02:48.29 | ckknight | Toadkiller: isn't your name on LibStickyFrames-2.0? |
| 02:48.29 | ckknight | :P |
| 02:49.17 | Kyahx | I wish one of them would become "standard" -- would be nice if my unit frames / bars / etc... could all stick and align to each other perfectly |
| 02:49.30 | Xinhuan | i recommended namespacing for libstickyframe |
| 02:49.44 | Xinhuan | because as an author, you don't necessary want your frames to all stick to each other |
| 02:50.06 | Xinhuan | for example, suppose i were to write a jigsaw puzzle addon, i want the jigsaw pieces to stick to each other - but not to pitbull4 |
| 02:51.06 | Xinhuan | a frame with no namespace would then be able to stick to other such frames |
| 02:51.07 | ckknight | Xinhuan: that's what I get with LibSimpleSticky-1.0 |
| 02:52.26 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: are all the Omen alphas, just git pust without the --tag? |
| 02:52.44 | Xinhuan | yes, all the alphas are just standard commits |
| 02:53.00 | Xinhuan | one push, one alpha zip |
| 02:53.04 | Zhinjio | ckknight: embedded works fine |
| 02:53.05 | Zhinjio | no error |
| 02:53.09 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 02:53.09 | rapidgame | that clears things up for me :-) |
| 02:53.10 | ckknight | oh well |
| 02:53.11 | Xinhuan | no special tricks |
| 02:53.16 | Zhinjio | not sure why the nolib thing didn't work |
| 02:53.43 | Zhinjio | actuially |
| 02:53.44 | Zhinjio | ckknight: |
| 02:53.48 | Zhinjio | I do know why |
| 02:53.57 | Zhinjio | libs.xml was getting stripped in the nolib version |
| 02:53.57 | ckknight | libs.xml isn't run? |
| 02:53.59 | ckknight | hmm |
| 02:54.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:54.02 | ckknight | makes sense |
| 02:54.08 | ckknight | now that I think about it |
| 02:54.15 | ckknight | I'll fix it |
| 02:54.24 | Zhinjio | well, I'm just glad I understand it now. |
| 02:54.30 | Xinhuan | aha, see what i mean about loading files from multiple files? :D |
| 02:55.03 | Xinhuan | grins |
| 02:55.28 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03xilcoy * r328 modules/Notifier.lua: |
| 02:55.32 | Repo | Fixed a comparison in Notifier, the enemy level now may or may not be a number |
| 02:55.34 | Repo | with the addition of the level guessing library. |
| 02:58.25 | quiescens | o.o |
| 02:58.35 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * bc91f4c / (10 files in 5 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 02:58.37 | Repo | bc91f4c: Turn BlankSpace into a status_bar_provider instead of a status_bar |
| 02:58.39 | Repo | 934241c: add status_bar_provider module type. This is a module type that produces multiple bars. |
| 03:00.24 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 9b93338 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 03:00.29 | Repo | 9b93338: Change how libs are loaded. |
| 03:00.31 | Repo | 2ac9311: localize "Default" |
| 03:00.41 | ckknight | Zhinjio: crises averted. Also, multiple blank spaces. |
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| 03:02.15 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: You have 3 commits between 3.0.5 and .6 yet only 2 alphas, how often to you put up alphas compared to commiting locally? |
| 03:02.30 | Xinhuan | rapidgame it means i did "git push" less often |
| 03:02.39 | Xinhuan | that is, i did 2 local commits, and pushed both at the same time |
| 03:02.47 | Xinhuan | so on the server side, it only generated one zip |
| 03:02.58 | ckknight | as you can see, I just did the same thing with pitbull4 |
| 03:03.26 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: so it doesn't really matter about how ofter you push? |
| 03:03.29 | thul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Nyxos <- trying a new and funky spec |
| 03:03.38 | Xinhuan | well, 1 push gives you 1 alpha zip |
| 03:03.43 | thul | I need about 1k more ap and 10-15% more crit :-P |
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| 03:03.45 | Xinhuan | but 1 push can consist of many commits |
| 03:04.04 | thul | saw a dk with 37% crit and 3700 ap hit/expertice-capped unbuffed. |
| 03:04.09 | thul | that is just plain mean :-P |
| 03:04.42 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: but you usually don't push on every commit, why do you push alphas, and not wait for a release - and how do you decide the difference (haha, probably a wierd question)? |
| 03:05.11 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 9e2cde7 Options/LayoutEditor/Texts.lua: [+1 commit] don't disable the "Current text" box if the module is disabled. |
| 03:05.13 | Xinhuan | i push alphas so that other people can test them, if they want to |
| 03:05.28 | Xinhuan | otherwise if i don't push, they only exist on my computer |
| 03:05.52 | rapidgame | What causes the <Repo> to talk to us here on IRC? |
| 03:05.57 | ckknight | pushes |
| 03:06.00 | Xinhuan | a "commit hook" |
| 03:06.21 | Xinhuan | that is, when you push to the server, a script causes alpha zips to be produced, and Repo to spam here |
| 03:07.05 | rapidgame | i haven't seen my pushes appear, even though alpha zips are produced (and IRC reporting is ticked on my repo) |
| 03:07.10 | Xinhuan | since your project is on curseforge, it doesn't spam to #wowace |
| 03:07.12 | ckknight | they appear in #cursefogre |
| 03:07.15 | Xinhuan | it spams to #curseforge |
| 03:07.15 | ckknight | #curseforge* |
| 03:07.16 | rapidgame | oh, lol |
| 03:07.31 | Xinhuan | but #curseforge isn't really used |
| 03:07.37 | Xinhuan | its like a dead channel ;p |
| 03:07.39 | Bruners | 03:40:54 < Repo> [WoW] pillager: rapidgame v0.18 * 26c7710 /: [new tag] Tagging release v0.18 |
| 03:07.43 | ckknight | I'm in there |
| 03:08.07 | Bruners | ckknight: it works! :P |
| 03:08.11 | doom0r | -20:33:05- [charon]: 'beta' seems a stupid name for a tag |
| 03:08.11 | doom0r | -20:33:19- [charon]: ~seen rapidgame |
| 03:08.11 | rapidgame | yeah, is there a way to push it to wowace instead, no one seems to use the CF one, wowace is the only really *active* channel |
| 03:08.17 | ckknight | Bruners: woo |
| 03:08.21 | doom0r | -20:33:41- [charon]: hmm, has someone told him on #wowace? |
| 03:08.21 | doom0r | -20:34:29- [charon]: if not, please do ;) |
| 03:08.34 | ckknight | rapidgame: your project would need to be on wowace |
| 03:08.42 | *** join/#wowace Sid23 (n=chatzill@CPE000f6630b5af-CM0014e8b60b14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:08.57 | Xinhuan | ckknight can move your project from curseforge to wowace if you like to ;p |
| 03:09.00 | ckknight | there's a complex process in order to transfer |
| 03:09.07 | ckknight | you need to convince Arrowmaster that you're worthy |
| 03:09.13 | ckknight | until then, no dice |
| 03:09.15 | rapidgame | doom0r: lol, i was still trying to figure out how to do tags ;-) |
| 03:09.16 | Xinhuan | HAHA |
| 03:09.34 | doom0r | ckknight: s/complex/impossible/ if that's the case |
| 03:09.34 | rapidgame | ckknight: haha, i doubt my current worth |
| 03:10.08 | Shefki | ckknight: I think that takes an act of congress to get Arrowmaster to deem anyone worthy. |
| 03:10.18 | ckknight | good thing I overrule him |
| 03:10.22 | ckknight | that's why my projects are on wowace |
| 03:10.44 | rapidgame | how come there is CF and wowace? |
| 03:10.56 | Shefki | Keeps Arrowmaster happy. |
| 03:10.58 | Xinhuan | now that's a good question |
| 03:10.58 | ckknight | wowace existed before curseforge |
| 03:11.04 | ckknight | wowace i |
| 03:11.09 | ckknight | wowace is far more strict about things |
| 03:11.14 | ckknight | who joins and all |
| 03:11.33 | ckknight | curseforge was created later, by Kaelten and myself, as a developer site for curse addon devs |
| 03:11.55 | ckknight | a few months after, wowace's software base transferred to curseforge, so they both run off the same software and hardware |
| 03:11.58 | rapidgame | so will wowace ever merge with CF, seems a bit redundant to have both? |
| 03:12.07 | ckknight | they have different cultures, moderators, and policies |
| 03:12.14 | rapidgame | fair enough |
| 03:12.21 | ckknight | and one is salmon-colored, and one is gray |
| 03:12.37 | ckknight | eventually we'll add some real theming. |
| 03:12.38 | rapidgame | still, it seems that everyone likes to gather in the one place (here) lol |
| 03:12.43 | ckknight | yes |
| 03:12.45 | ckknight | because we're choosy |
| 03:12.48 | ckknight | we only accept the best |
| 03:12.54 | ckknight | we're elitist |
| 03:13.01 | Xinhuan | also, curseforge allows WAR projects |
| 03:13.04 | Xinhuan | wowace only does WoW |
| 03:13.12 | ckknight | curseforge has RoM projects now |
| 03:13.13 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 03:13.20 | rapidgame | RoM? |
| 03:13.23 | ckknight | Runes of Magic |
| 03:13.24 | Kaelten | lol |
| 03:13.26 | Kaelten | the wow clone |
| 03:13.30 | ckknight | totally |
| 03:13.31 | rapidgame | that free to play? |
| 03:13.33 | ckknight | yes |
| 03:13.35 | Xinhuan | so in a way, curseforge has a target audience that is larger than just wow |
| 03:13.41 | rapidgame | think i saw it mentioned on kotaku |
| 03:13.53 | Kaelten | I'm hoping we'll be able to get some sc2 maps |
| 03:13.56 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 03:14.02 | ckknight | I totally want to pimp the SC2 portal |
| 03:14.03 | doom0r | which makes it have no real base, which keeps it from being a proper community |
| 03:14.09 | ckknight | I made maps for SC1 |
| 03:14.14 | ckknight | so I want a place to upload maps for SC2 |
| 03:14.19 | ckknight | thus, the SC2 portal will not suck |
| 03:14.28 | Xinhuan | doom0r, its more than wowace has been around 5x as long |
| 03:14.37 | ckknight | that's a big thing, too, Xinhuan |
| 03:14.42 | ckknight | curseforge has a strong WAR community |
| 03:14.53 | Xinhuan | yes, because curseforge is one of the first few to support WAR |
| 03:14.56 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: everyone should just go on wowace, saves having 2 of everything lol |
| 03:15.03 | ckknight | let them try. |
| 03:15.07 | ckknight | we'll accept anyone worthy |
| 03:15.17 | rapidgame | ckknight: /snob haha |
| 03:15.20 | Shefki | rapidgame: It's just one site. |
| 03:15.24 | Kaelten | ~lart ckknight |
| 03:15.24 | purl | nukes ckknight with a single large nuke |
| 03:15.25 | ckknight | what? wowace has the appeal of being elitist |
| 03:15.34 | rapidgame | lol |
| 03:15.36 | ckknight | that is one of its appeals |
| 03:15.39 | Bruners | ckknight: uhm, isnt it just to use the wowace svn url to change? |
| 03:15.47 | ckknight | things on wowace have a certain minimum level of unshittiness |
| 03:15.53 | kenlyric | uh, LibLord |
| 03:16.01 | Shefki | rapidgame: Curseforge and wowace run on the same hardware, with the same software. wowace is just a subset of the curseforge stuff. |
| 03:16.01 | doom0r | ^ trump |
| 03:16.02 | ckknight | kenlyric: we'll move him off one day |
| 03:16.11 | Bruners | alar ? |
| 03:16.17 | ckknight | we already moved him off, Bruners |
| 03:16.19 | rapidgame | Shefki: but the end user see two different areas? |
| 03:16.21 | Xinhuan | alar doesn't develop on wowace anymore |
| 03:16.31 | doom0r | rapidgame: no |
| 03:16.35 | doom0r | the end users see curse |
| 03:16.40 | ckknight | Xinhuan: he "accidentally" got moved to curseforge during the wowace move |
| 03:16.51 | Shefki | Exactly. Everything goes to curse. |
| 03:16.51 | doom0r | not cf or wowace ;x |
| 03:16.51 | rapidgame | doom0r: true that |
| 03:16.51 | Shefki | Only developers use wowace or curseforge. |
| 03:17.00 | Xinhuan | chuckle |
| 03:17.01 | ckknight | what do you prefer, salmon or gray? |
| 03:17.05 | rapidgame | so us crappy devs get shoved on CF lol |
| 03:17.20 | Xinhuan | but the colour isn't really salmon - its more like sandalwood |
| 03:17.21 | doom0r | where are you getting salmon? |
| 03:17.24 | ckknight | yes, but you're fully willing to seek the wowace people's advice on how to be better |
| 03:17.25 | Bruners | i took the hint and started on CF :P |
| 03:17.35 | ckknight | one day, you can appeal to be moved over |
| 03:17.44 | rapidgame | Bruners: haha |
| 03:17.45 | ckknight | and it's perfectly acceptable to do so |
| 03:18.04 | ckknight | we're a lot easier on addons than libraries |
| 03:18.44 | Arrowmaster | as long as its not 'want to gouge my eyes out now with a rusty spork' quality |
| 03:19.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:19.31 | *** join/#wowace DragonWin (n=goofy@www.rageguild.info) |
| 03:19.39 | ckknight | if it's not necessarily a rusty spork |
| 03:19.46 | ckknight | if for example, it's a rusty spoon |
| 03:19.48 | ckknight | or a non-rusty spork |
| 03:21.33 | Xinhuan | hey ckknight, give me and arrow +v here! :) |
| 03:21.45 | Arrowmaster | only Kaelten can afaik |
| 03:21.47 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Xinhuan] by ckknight |
| 03:21.49 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Arrowmaster] by ckknight |
| 03:21.53 | ckknight | I can temporarily |
| 03:22.01 | ckknight | just don't /part |
| 03:22.09 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:22.17 | Xinhuan | i can try not to! |
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| 03:23.00 | Bruners | what thing should i use to register when you click the "okay" button in interface config ? like SetScript("OnOkayButtonPressed") |
| 03:23.03 | Xinhuan | pokes Kaelten |
| 03:23.16 | Kaelten | ? |
| 03:23.21 | ckknight | Bruners: button:SetScript("OnClick", function() blah() end) |
| 03:23.37 | Xinhuan | arrow/me would like +v in this channel ;p |
| 03:24.17 | Bruners | i dont really see the point as long as the channel isnt +m |
| 03:24.42 | ckknight | it distinguishes moderators |
| 03:24.55 | doom0r | rapidgame: a big thing to note, is that many people in the "wowace community" that actively develop also add to the "libraries of the community" |
| 03:25.16 | Dark_Elf | bah found an addon with no libraries |
| 03:25.24 | ckknight | Dark_Elf: hmm? |
| 03:25.38 | Arrowmaster | @project train-whistle |
| 03:25.40 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/projects/train-whistle/. TrainWhistle. Game: WoW. Arrowmaster (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 days ago |
| 03:25.42 | Arrowmaster | ^^ no libraries |
| 03:25.50 | ckknight | no issue there. |
| 03:26.47 | Dark_Elf | yeah heatsink |
| 03:27.18 | Dark_Elf | and they arent embedded either |
| 03:27.20 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 1934a3f ModuleHandling/FaderModule.lua: [+1 commit] Fix fader modules by referring to the correct field. |
| 03:31.09 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 82de7e0 Modules/CastBar/CastBar.lua: [+1 commit] Give CastBar a 40% example value. |
| 03:31.34 | Xinhuan | so i installed windows7, but couldn't go online with it because my usb modem isn't vista supported - no drivers |
| 03:31.42 | Xinhuan | super fail |
| 03:31.55 | Arrowmaster | fail for using a usb modem |
| 03:32.02 | Xinhuan | yes i need to buy a new one |
| 03:32.12 | Xinhuan | any recommendations |
| 03:32.43 | Xinhuan | adsl modem that is |
| 03:32.45 | doom0r | Dark_Elf: no .pkgmeta |
| 03:33.40 | Dark_Elf | perhaps durcyn would update it with library fix someday |
| 03:33.40 | doom0r | and ckknight was the one that tagged last release ;x |
| 03:33.57 | ckknight | hmm? |
| 03:34.04 | doom0r | @project heatsink |
| 03:34.05 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/heatsink/. Heatsink. Game: WoW. durcyn (Manager/Author). Updated: 66 days ago. Tickets: 3/3 |
| 03:34.08 | Bruners | Xinhuan: didnt you discuss this last night aswell ? |
| 03:34.13 | Xinhuan | yes i did |
| 03:34.13 | doom0r | has no .pkgmeta, you tagged a release a while ago |
| 03:34.50 | Zhinjio | ckknight: the cut/paste of colors is kind of a big deal |
| 03:34.59 | Dark_Elf | another issue i found today was fortress was missing an icon in an ace library function |
| 03:35.01 | Zhinjio | barring that, some way to gain precision over the colors |
| 03:35.02 | ckknight | Zhinjio: um ... tell Nargiddley? |
| 03:35.10 | ckknight | :P |
| 03:35.13 | ckknight | it's just AceConfig |
| 03:35.16 | Zhinjio | in pb4? oh. |
| 03:35.19 | Zhinjio | bah |
| 03:35.31 | *** join/#wowace bien|| (n=bien@pD9E6EB86.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:35.56 | Zhinjio | we need something like a PreciseColorPicker or something |
| 03:35.59 | Xinhuan | doesn't enhanced color picker still work |
| 03:36.02 | Zhinjio | that one is the suxorz |
| 03:36.29 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah i have a BetterColorPicker sitting here that needs finished |
| 03:36.51 | Arrowmaster | havent touched it since october |
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| 03:45.09 | doom0r | anyone happen to have the wow sounds extracted? need the original poison sounds, so i reduce the volume or something |
| 03:48.04 | rapidgame | if a frame is hidden, does the OnUpdate event still fire (displayFrame:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() blah() end) ) |
| 03:48.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:48.30 | rapidgame | cool |
| 03:50.09 | Dark_Elf | did i read the patch log right they removed poison? |
| 03:50.55 | doom0r | which one? |
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| 03:52.20 | doom0r | Dark_Elf: you mean, poisons aren't a trade, just vendor bought? |
| 03:55.39 | Dark_Elf | a trade? |
| 03:56.03 | doom0r | well, the poison "tradeskill" if you will no longer exists |
| 03:56.11 | Dark_Elf | ok |
| 03:56.19 | doom0r | you buy them premade from a vendor now |
| 03:56.36 | Dark_Elf | bet that made the rogues happy |
| 03:56.48 | doom0r | yes and no |
| 03:57.00 | doom0r | you have to have what you need |
| 03:57.06 | Dark_Elf | free up a tradeskill |
| 03:57.07 | doom0r | which takes less space if you carry much |
| 03:57.15 | doom0r | o, never did that |
| 03:57.21 | doom0r | was just an extra thing |
| 03:57.42 | doom0r | the downside is that you can't choose what to make from mats your carrying, you have to have the end result alwasy |
| 03:58.17 | doom0r | was just a class skill |
| 03:58.22 | doom0r | like lockpicking |
| 04:00.42 | Dark_Elf | deletes more addons |
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| 04:03.37 | Bruners | saved vars are not saved before you reload or exit the game ? |
| 04:03.42 | Daemona | ackis you fail at localizing ;) |
| 04:10.37 | ckknight | lol |
| 04:14.26 | Daemona | you'd wonder how many errors collectinator can throw ;) |
| 04:15.52 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:16.10 | doom0r | my sentiments exactly Shefki |
| 04:16.41 | Shefki | lol that was an accident. |
| 04:17.21 | Bruners | ckknight: i think more addon authors should read FrameXML.log |
| 04:17.32 | ckknight | hehe |
| 04:17.40 | Shefki | Bruners: Some of those errors are on purpose though. |
| 04:18.08 | Bruners | Shefki: on purpose? |
| 04:18.25 | Shefki | Bruners: Take an addon like say PitBull. |
| 04:18.41 | Shefki | There's a module load file that tries to load all the modules if they're embedded. |
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| 04:18.53 | Shefki | However, most people use the packaged version which disembedds them. |
| 04:19.08 | Shefki | So they'll get an error for every module. |
| 04:19.23 | Shefki | But if we remove that load file then it wouldn't work the other way. |
| 04:20.41 | Shefki | Same is true of libs. |
| 04:20.49 | Bruners | gah no wonder my saved variables got fucked, had the update function do it the other way around |
| 04:22.01 | Bruners | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.06 | Bruners | is this on purpose ? |
| 04:22.14 | Shefki | Possibly. |
| 04:22.30 | Shefki | Looks like an embedded lib that isn't in your copy of the addon. |
| 04:22.44 | Bruners | its not there |
| 04:22.58 | Shefki | So if you're running a disembeded copy... it won't be there. |
| 04:23.18 | Shefki | http://www.wowace.com/paste/159/ |
| 04:23.22 | Shefki | ^ From my FrameXML.log |
| 04:23.25 | Shefki | For PitBull4. |
| 04:23.39 | Shefki | Every last one of those errors are simply there because I'm running disembeded. |
| 04:24.28 | Bruners | i have learned a lot today |
| 04:25.44 | doom0r | good, now go get hammered and forget it all so you have something to do tomorrow :P |
| 04:25.45 | Shefki | But hey even Blizzard doesn't pay much attention to it: |
| 04:25.46 | Shefki | 1/17 20:16:48.526 Binding TOGGLECURRENCY is defined more than once in Interface\FrameXML\Bindings.xml |
| 04:25.56 | Bruners | doom0r: its sunday here now |
| 04:26.10 | doom0r | so? |
| 04:26.38 | Bruners | they dont sell beer or booze on sundays ? |
| 04:26.49 | doom0r | depends on where you're at? |
| 04:27.07 | Bruners | norway |
| 04:28.43 | Bruners | ckknight: im going to try that localization thing on CF now |
| 04:28.48 | ckknight | fun |
| 04:30.28 | ckknight | no alcohol on Sundays here, either |
| 04:30.30 | ckknight | (Alabama) |
| 04:31.27 | Bruners | red day on the calendar means no alcohol that day, and early closing the prior day |
| 04:33.50 | Bruners | ckknight: where do i find the svn url to just AceLocale-3.0 ? |
| 04:34.14 | ckknight | in Ace3 |
| 04:36.37 | Bruners | ckknight: but when using pkgmeta with externals: should i get it from trunk or tags ? |
| 04:36.56 | ckknight | tag: latest |
| 04:39.14 | Xinhuan | i'll recommend trunk for libraries |
| 04:39.28 | Xinhuan | because nobody tags their libraries |
| 04:39.31 | Bruners | http://amnith.pastey.net/106547 |
| 04:39.33 | Bruners | like that? |
| 04:39.40 | Xinhuan | so your "latest tag" would be like 6 months old |
| 04:40.26 | Shefki | Xinhuan: They really should start. |
| 04:41.14 | Xinhuan | i highly recommend not to use tags for libs |
| 04:41.37 | ckknight | I highly recommend using tags for libs |
| 04:41.55 | ckknight | nevcairiel tags Ace3 regularly |
| 04:41.55 | Bruners | cool :P |
| 04:42.20 | Bruners | should i be doing the same for libstub ? |
| 04:42.57 | doom0r | shouldn't change |
| 04:43.01 | doom0r | take your pick imo |
| 04:43.13 | Arrowmaster | i highly recommend NOT blindly using tags for libs, and instead making sure the lib you want to use is infact regually tagged and then remembering that by using tags you risk being extremely out of date if it stops getting tagged |
| 04:43.27 | Arrowmaster | you should use tag: latest for libstub and callbackhandler |
| 04:44.08 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: tag: latest on Ace3 seems fine |
| 04:44.29 | ckknight | you run the risk of being out of date if the author doesn't code the lib anymore |
| 04:44.33 | rapidgame | hmm, i have two frames, a title bar, and a details frame - is it possible to make it so when the title bar is moved by the user, the details bar follows? |
| 04:44.34 | ckknight | :P |
| 04:44.40 | ckknight | yes, rapidgame |
| 04:44.41 | Xinhuan | if you're active and regularly checkup on the libs, it doesn't really matter too much |
| 04:45.19 | doom0r | exactly |
| 04:45.24 | doom0r | you shouldn't blindly use a library |
| 04:45.29 | doom0r | you should be aware of it's status |
| 04:46.58 | linear` | any way to disable the nolib packaging? |
| 04:47.12 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:47.40 | ckknight | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:49.20 | Groktar | pro rogue has to stand right between the two melee groups on kt |
| 04:49.21 | Groktar | :( |
| 04:49.41 | doom0r | i assume chain cleave? |
| 04:49.42 | Xinhuan | that's not pro |
| 04:49.46 | linear` | where am i suppose to put that ckknight |
| 04:50.28 | Groktar | rogue thinks it's pro |
| 04:51.55 | Daemona | doom0r KT doesnt cleave |
| 04:52.21 | linear` | how does the tagging the latest work? im looking at the ac3 repo and all the tags are beta or alpha. i don't want those do i? |
| 04:52.29 | rapidgame | well, heres my code - anyone able to take a look and see what i need to do to enable the detailsFrame to follow the barFrame when dragged? |
| 04:52.34 | rapidgame | http://www.wowace.com/paste/160/ |
| 04:53.32 | rapidgame | im probably doing everything very inefficiently haha |
| 04:54.40 | linear` | you setpoint the detailsframe on nothing |
| 04:54.50 | rapidgame | thnx |
| 05:05.03 | Groktar | what's a boss' dodge chance? |
| 05:06.34 | Bruners | 5% from behind ? |
| 05:06.36 | quiescens | believed to be 6.5? |
| 05:06.40 | rapidgame | What does "Refusing tag update refs/tags/v0.18" in git mean? |
| 05:06.55 | doom0r | you tagged that earlier |
| 05:07.02 | RaydenU | i got duped into running normal HoL :( |
| 05:07.15 | quiescens | sucker |
| 05:07.16 | quiescens | lols |
| 05:07.24 | doom0r | -20:41:01- [Repo]: [WoW] pillager: rapidgame v0.18 * 26c7710 /: [new tag] Tagging release v0.18 |
| 05:07.35 | Xinhuan | it means you tried to tag something twice with the same name |
| 05:07.52 | RaydenU | "zomg peta, come run HoL with your guild members!" |
| 05:08.02 | Xinhuan | v0.18 already refers to that particular commit |
| 05:08.04 | RaydenU | ok! |
| 05:08.07 | RaydenU | normal, wut? |
| 05:08.13 | Xinhuan | so you can't retag with that name |
| 05:08.41 | Xinhuan | (unless you really want to, you specify -f switch to force it, but that can potentially screw up repo history) |
| 05:08.53 | Xinhuan | moral: tag it v0.19 instead |
| 05:09.13 | rapidgame | Xinhuan: i forgot the -a in my tag command ;-) |
| 05:09.19 | rapidgame | that's what caused it i think |
| 05:09.33 | Xinhuan | ah, yes a tag needs to be annotated with -a too |
| 05:10.04 | rapidgame | so i did a git push --tags, then got that error - should i do anything to fix it, or will it work anyway? |
| 05:10.21 | Xinhuan | you'll be fine |
| 05:10.28 | rapidgame | cool |
| 05:10.30 | Groktar | apparently the answer i was looking for was 148 rating |
| 05:10.33 | doom0r | -23:05:37- [Repo]: [WoW] pillager: rapidgame v0.19 * d2290ba /: [new tag, +2 commits] Tag release v0.19 |
| 05:10.43 | Zhinjio | G'night |
| 05:11.03 | *** part/#wowace taleden (n=atfrase@user-38q41i6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 05:11.22 | quiescens | a bosses dodge chance is 148 rating? |
| 05:12.44 | quiescens | I think there may be a mismatch of units there |
| 05:12.45 | quiescens | nodnod |
| 05:14.22 | doom0r | Groktar: thought 165? |
| 05:14.29 | doom0r | for 5% |
| 05:15.10 | quiescens | except that standard dodge rate is believed to be 6.25% |
| 05:15.34 | doom0r | o, looking at dodge --> expertise |
| 05:15.57 | quiescens | requiring some 25 expertise or 205 rating if you have no talents/racials |
| 05:16.24 | Bruners | ckknight: how do i get translation thing to package automaticly? |
| 05:16.47 | Xinhuan | you can't |
| 05:16.54 | Xinhuan | you need to retag |
| 05:17.11 | ckknight | Bruners: use keyword substitutions |
| 05:17.15 | Bruners | well not package, but how do i tell it to package with it when i tag |
| 05:17.21 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 05:17.27 | Xinhuan | see the knowledge base article on it |
| 05:17.41 | Xinhuan | should be called Using the Localization App or something |
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| 05:18.00 | Bruners | do i write this in pkgmeta or ? |
| 05:19.07 | ckknight | no |
| 05:19.11 | ckknight | check keyword substitutions |
| 05:19.17 | ckknight | check the knowledge base article |
| 05:20.31 | doom0r | so it's 8 rating to 1 expertise? |
| 05:20.36 | doom0r | if so, wowwiki is wrong |
| 05:21.11 | Bruners | doom0r: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t36638-death_knight_pve_dps/#Expertise_Rating |
| 05:21.32 | doom0r | ya, wowwiki has Expertise -1% Dodge/Parry 10 15.77 32.79 |
| 05:21.39 | doom0r | but the expertise page says 9 rating to 1 point |
| 05:23.10 | Bruners | ckknight: maby im stupid, but that knowledge base isnt to clear |
| 05:23.35 | ckknight | did you read the repository keyword subtitutions page? |
| 05:23.45 | quiescens | um |
| 05:23.46 | Bruners | http://wow.curseforge.com/knowledge-base/repository-keyword-substitutions/#w_localization |
| 05:23.50 | Bruners | this one, yes |
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| 05:24.31 | quiescens | 1 expertise is around 8.2 rating or something? |
| 05:24.33 | quiescens | I forget |
| 05:24.46 | quiescens | it should be around 8.2 |
| 05:25.07 | quiescens | its 4 expertise for 1% |
| 05:25.30 | quiescens | as I was saying, mismatch of units |
| 05:26.03 | doom0r | Bruners: did you keep reading all the way through the examples at the bottom? |
| 05:27.20 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander 043.0.20-beta * r20 : Tagging as 3.0.20-beta |
| 05:27.44 | Bruners | doom0r: yep |
| 05:27.50 | ckknight | how is that not clear? |
| 05:28.37 | Bruners | how will the packager know where to place new translations ? |
| 05:28.59 | ckknight | oh |
| 05:29.03 | ckknight | so you didn't read it |
| 05:29.03 | Bruners | will it add them to the toc ? |
| 05:29.19 | ckknight | mind reading it? |
| 05:29.25 | Bruners | will read it once more |
| 05:33.00 | doom0r | it really isn't the clearest of texts |
| 05:33.18 | doom0r | i'm guessing the first example is what you commit and the second example is the output upon packaging |
| 05:34.24 | Xinhuan | bingo! |
| 05:34.39 | doom0r | would be nice if it said that anywhere in detail |
| 05:34.50 | Xinhuan | isn't that implied |
| 05:35.00 | Xinhuan | the title of the article is "repository keyword substitutions" |
| 05:35.10 | ckknight | you substitute keywords in your repository |
| 05:37.12 | doom0r | it doesn't state anything about pillaging every other file to see if it needs to add an entry |
| 05:37.44 | Xinhuan | then it doesn't |
| 05:37.44 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 05:38.09 | doom0r | then where does it get the keys to be translated? |
| 05:38.16 | Xinhuan | localization app |
| 05:38.31 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/knowledge-base/localizing-your-project/ |
| 05:39.11 | Xinhuan | under every project there is a localization option |
| 05:39.46 | Xinhuan | this is babble boss's one |
| 05:39.47 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/libbabble-boss-3-0/localization/ |
| 05:43.27 | doom0r | Bruners: wherever you tell it is the answer then |
| 05:43.35 | doom0r | ;x |
| 05:45.09 | doom0r | i suggest cracka.lua, thegreatfirewall.lua, etc |
| 05:46.15 | Bruners | still not getting it here :P do i make the files myself and it will update them? |
| 05:46.59 | doom0r | the first 2 code boxes is what you make |
| 05:47.27 | doom0r | the second two code boxes is what it looks like after you tag something to be packaged if you have the localization app setup |
| 05:47.34 | ckknight | name your locale files after racial slurs |
| 05:47.37 | ckknight | pollack.lua |
| 05:47.53 | Bruners | and insert --@localization(locale="deDE", format="lua_additive_table")@ |
| 05:47.55 | Bruners | ? |
| 05:47.57 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:48.02 | ckknight | that goes in your lua |
| 05:48.27 | doom0r | then when you tag, it strips that and replaces it with crap from the localization app in the packaged result |
| 05:48.40 | Bruners | aha, so the packager will look for that inside the file and update it with new pollack deutch gibberish ? |
| 05:48.57 | ckknight | yes |
| 05:49.07 | ckknight | though we don't support poPL currently |
| 05:49.18 | Bruners | :P |
| 05:49.21 | Xinhuan | speaking of which ckknight, will the packager error if no localization has been setup |
| 05:49.28 | Xinhuan | on the replacement? |
| 05:49.30 | ckknight | Xinhuan: it doesn't replace |
| 05:49.36 | ckknight | in that case |
| 05:49.41 | ckknight | and in t |
| 05:49.50 | ckknight | the log, it'll say that no localization was found |
| 05:49.57 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 05:50.09 | Bruners | should just say that in the example then tbh |
| 05:51.01 | doom0r | well, what you linked was the substitutions page |
| 05:51.16 | doom0r | if you followed to it from the localization app page, more would make sense off the bat |
| 05:51.29 | doom0r | i didn't know how any of it worked and read it backwards :P |
| 05:51.50 | Xinhuan | that's why i said read the localzation page (but ck said to read the substitution one) |
| 05:51.51 | Xinhuan | ll |
| 05:51.52 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 05:52.29 | doom0r | ya, for the most part it's fairly obvious if read in order |
| 05:53.42 | doom0r | goes to crap mcdonalds for food |
| 05:54.26 | Xinhuan | https://www.mcdelivery.com.sg/wos/jsp/deals.jsp |
| 06:01.35 | Bruners | all this work, and probably nobody will ever translate it :P |
| 06:02.30 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r129 / (4 files in 1 directory): GatherMate_Data: Weekly update |
| 06:02.34 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.26 * r130 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update |
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| 06:03.58 | Skellum | Japan Xinhuan? |
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| 06:05.34 | Bruners | ckknight: how i delete translations from the translation app ? |
| 06:05.52 | Bruners | texts that i just made up to test it |
| 06:07.16 | ckknight | go to the phrase |
| 06:07.22 | ckknight | edit phrase -> delete phrase |
| 06:09.29 | Bruners | ckknight: there http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/phrases.jpg ? |
| 06:10.25 | ckknight | no, not there |
| 06:10.33 | ckknight | click phrases |
| 06:10.35 | ckknight | up at the top |
| 06:11.12 | Bruners | and then on the phrase i want to do something with ? |
| 06:11.58 | Bruners | when i go to a phrase the Phrases menu bugs out |
| 06:12.21 | ckknight | bugs out? |
| 06:12.25 | Bruners | http://lasseb.tihlde.org/img/images/phrases2.jpg |
| 06:12.26 | ckknight | thanks for being descriptive |
| 06:12.27 | Bruners | like that |
| 06:12.33 | Bruners | i was getting there |
| 06:12.37 | ckknight | CLICK it |
| 06:12.39 | ckknight | CLICK |
| 06:13.12 | ckknight | go to the phrases index |
| 06:13.15 | ckknight | by clicking phrases |
| 06:13.20 | ckknight | go to the phrase you want |
| 06:13.25 | ckknight | bringing you to the phrase details page |
| 06:13.31 | ckknight | in the navigation bar, Edit phrase will appear |
| 06:13.33 | ckknight | hover over it |
| 06:13.38 | ckknight | Edit phrase will show up |
| 06:13.39 | ckknight | click that |
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| 06:28.55 | ckknight | I wish I could make DSLs in lua like I can in ruby |
| 06:35.58 | rapidgame | aww, shit |
| 06:39.41 | doom0r | just find some bar fly? |
| 06:40.14 | rapidgame | na, cocked up my tagging again haha - luckily no one noticed (or is even on) #curseforge |
| 06:41.48 | doom0r | rapidgame: I *plan* to have it record the vendor values of all grey items |
| 06:41.56 | doom0r | do you mean, record hwo much stuff sells for? |
| 06:42.44 | rapidgame | yep |
| 06:42.48 | doom0r | mmm |
| 06:42.53 | doom0r | @project itemprice-1-1 |
| 06:42.54 | Repo | doom0r: http://www.wowace.com/projects/itemprice-1-1/. ItemPrice-1.1. Game: WoW. Arrowmaster (Manager/Author), Bam (Author). Updated: 18 days ago |
| 06:43.01 | rapidgame | using an external... |
| 06:43.01 | doom0r | !api GetSellValue |
| 06:43.01 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetSellValue'. |
| 06:43.21 | doom0r | http://www.wowwiki.com/GetSellValue |
| 06:43.31 | rapidgame | yeah, like those haha - but i'm also thinking about possibly Auctioneer, because then it will give auction values as well |
| 06:43.49 | doom0r | garbagefu does that |
| 06:43.57 | doom0r | so does lilsparkysworkshop |
| 06:44.03 | rapidgame | is garbagefu up to date? |
| 06:44.07 | doom0r | you can find info looking at those |
| 06:44.53 | rapidgame | getsellvalue() is offered by a number of addons, was thinking of using Auctioneer... |
| 06:45.27 | doom0r | auctioneer gives you it's values |
| 06:45.36 | doom0r | but it doesn't give you vendor |
| 06:45.41 | doom0r | it gets that through another source |
| 06:45.46 | doom0r | such as informant or itemprice |
| 06:46.08 | rapidgame | informant is part of the suite, when i said auctioneer i should have said the suite |
| 06:46.28 | doom0r | well, don't expect it to always have informant |
| 06:46.46 | doom0r | you can find what's available and let the user decide what they have |
| 06:46.54 | rapidgame | anyway, that's a wee way away haha - next thing im looking at addin (which im hoping wont be too difficult) will be recording the durability repair costs |
| 06:47.07 | doom0r | take a look at auctioneer, it does that, it checks for quite a few things to see if there's available pricing |
| 06:47.19 | Torhal | There's AuditorFu for that. |
| 06:47.26 | Torhal | And SellFish also has the item prices. |
| 06:47.35 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r23 / (6 files in 1 directory): Started integrating HSK with HAzLoot |
| 06:47.38 | doom0r | ya, it seems you're basically attempting to make auditor? |
| 06:47.41 | rapidgame | i was looking at having something intergrated for the durability part if possible |
| 06:47.42 | Torhal | Don't be a "me too!" author. |
| 06:48.24 | rapidgame | Torhal: well, im not to worried about that, because im just using this to learn how to do things haha |
| 06:48.29 | Torhal | Unless every variation of that addon is somehow broken, there should really be no need to write another unless it's only for learning. |
| 06:48.34 | Torhal | Ah, kk |
| 06:48.43 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r24 Bootstrap.lua: Bootstrap for Seraphim SK List |
| 06:48.46 | doom0r | a lot of the work has been done oon the various things, just offering heads up on where to look for the things you put in your desc |
| 06:48.59 | rapidgame | i saw that FarmFu had it's own method of calculating the durability info, which i might base mine off |
| 06:51.31 | Primer | Anyone have any opinions regarding the best raid spec for a lock now? |
| 06:51.38 | Xinhuan | yessssssssssssssssssssss |
| 06:51.41 | Xinhuan | 100 sota wins complete |
| 06:51.49 | Xinhuan | never going back there EVER again |
| 06:51.57 | Primer | why not? |
| 06:51.59 | Primer | not fun? |
| 06:52.06 | Xinhuan | why wouldi |
| 06:52.14 | Xinhuan | i honor capped myself 5 times this week |
| 06:52.30 | Xinhuan | that's some 400k honor |
| 06:52.45 | quiescens | spend some~ |
| 06:53.33 | Xinhuan | i did |
| 06:53.38 | Xinhuan | after spending 350k |
| 06:53.43 | Xinhuan | i don't think i have much left to spend on |
| 06:54.56 | ckknight | I also wish lua had a proper ternary syntax |
| 06:56.00 | quiescens | excuses xinhuan |
| 06:59.10 | doom0r | rapidgame: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GameTooltip_SetInventoryItem |
| 07:02.33 | rapidgame | http://www.wowace.com/paste/161/ - this is farmfu's method, what do you guys think? |
| 07:02.47 | rapidgame | doom0r: ok, i'll have a look @ that |
| 07:05.51 | rapidgame | doom0r: yea, FarmFu uses that, but it scans the bags as well |
| 07:05.59 | doom0r | GetContainerItemDurability |
| 07:06.35 | rapidgame | theres not any way to track the amount of durabilty damage taken? |
| 07:06.59 | Arrowmaster | !api GetContainerItemDurability |
| 07:07.00 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'GetContainerItemDurability' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetContainerItemDurability |
| 07:07.12 | Arrowmaster | WoW-Bot: SHUT UP! |
| 07:07.18 | rapidgame | thanks, wowwiki didnt have an entry |
| 07:07.38 | Arrowmaster | wowwiki is crap for api reference, always use wowprogramming.com |
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| 07:08.11 | rapidgame | okay, will keep that in mind |
| 07:08.13 | doom0r | for things provided by the game |
| 07:08.21 | doom0r | there are instances of community apis that have come about |
| 07:08.25 | doom0r | GetSellValue et al |
| 07:10.03 | Shefki | I'd say look at both. Sometimes there's useful stuff on wowwiki on some of the less used apis that isn't on wowprogramming |
| 07:11.00 | rapidgame | nice, thanks |
| 07:11.11 | Arrowmaster | everything will be listed on wowprogramming.com, which isnt true for wowwiki anymore |
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| 07:12.39 | rapidgame | so even if i have the about of durability damage taken, the repair price still varies based on the max durability and the item quality right? |
| 07:12.47 | chiper | did anyone just loose their link to their server? |
| 07:13.01 | chiper | six members in our raid just lost their connection and cant even bring up the news feed |
| 07:13.03 | TecnoBrat | chiper, I lost my link to everything :P |
| 07:13.04 | Shefki | chiper: I've been having some serious lag issues the last few minutes. |
| 07:13.29 | TecnoBrat | like worldofwarcraft.com dead, news dead, can't connect at all, blizzard.com dead :P |
| 07:14.31 | TecnoBrat | according to my traceroutes, the LA dc is down ... |
| 07:14.43 | TecnoBrat | which is where my server is .. and wow.com, blizz.com etc |
| 07:15.00 | Shefki | I'd agree with that assesment... login servers are down. |
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| 07:15.37 | chiper | hrm, our realm is in central time zone, and the people DCd are in the east coast |
| 07:15.50 | chiper | servers are fine |
| 07:15.58 | TecnoBrat | And ... its back :P |
| 07:16.00 | Shefki | chiper: Not all servers are in the same DC |
| 07:16.00 | chiper | some dns link ate itself |
| 07:16.08 | Shefki | chiper: And the game doesn't use DNS. |
| 07:16.10 | TecnoBrat | it wasn't DNS |
| 07:16.15 | Shefki | Once you're logged in DNS is irrelevent. |
| 07:16.21 | chiper | uhm... everything on the internet uses dns |
| 07:16.27 | TecnoBrat | dns is cached. |
| 07:16.37 | Shefki | chiper: The game sends the ip address of every realm when you login. |
| 07:16.43 | chiper | even if it's IP based, you still use DNS to handle the routing |
| 07:16.48 | TecnoBrat | and as Shefki said, DNS going down won't d/c you from a realm |
| 07:16.50 | Shefki | Umm no you don't. |
| 07:16.57 | Shefki | DNS doesn't have squat to do with routing. |
| 07:16.57 | TecnoBrat | DNS != routing |
| 07:17.05 | TecnoBrat | routing == routing |
| 07:17.15 | Shefki | The only thing WoW uses DNS for is connecting to the login server. |
| 07:17.28 | Shefki | Everything else is by IP addresses returned from that login server when you first connect. |
| 07:17.29 | TecnoBrat | Anyways, it looks like its back |
| 07:17.50 | Shefki | http://shefki.org/login_graph.png |
| 07:18.06 | Shefki | Big red bar = basically 100% packet loss. |
| 07:18.12 | chiper | fine, not dns, whatever. the point is that a link went down |
| 07:18.19 | Shefki | And yes I'm crazy enough to actually monitor Blizzard's servers. |
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| 07:18.51 | Shefki | And Central realms are hosted in Dallas. |
| 07:19.09 | Shefki | Not sure where Eastern realms are at never bothered to figure it out. |
| 07:19.17 | TecnoBrat | hah |
| 07:19.19 | Shefki | Login server and Pacific time servers are in LA |
| 07:19.25 | TecnoBrat | login server is in the LA DC? |
| 07:19.30 | Shefki | TecnoBrat: Yes. |
| 07:19.33 | TecnoBrat | Yea that makes sense then |
| 07:19.38 | TecnoBrat | cause so is wow.com |
| 07:19.41 | TecnoBrat | which was also toast |
| 07:20.02 | quiescens | shefki broke it! |
| 07:20.18 | Shefki | I monitor the border routers for each jump between me and the LA and Dallas data centers. |
| 07:20.44 | Shefki | So when stuff sucks I know who is sucking. |
| 07:21.05 | doom0r | o god, why do you use the egg Shefki? |
| 07:21.31 | Shefki | egg? |
| 07:21.37 | doom0r | mouse |
| 07:22.04 | Shefki | You poking around the site and found the picture of my desk? |
| 07:22.19 | doom0r | ya, was the only thing interesting :P |
| 07:22.28 | Shefki | I don't use that mouse anymore. |
| 07:22.53 | Shefki | Came with the machine, I ditched it pretty quick. |
| 07:23.14 | doom0r | i would think the silver frames would be a bit annoying |
| 07:23.28 | quiescens | doom0r is sekretly stalking you |
| 07:23.29 | Shefki | Why? |
| 07:23.36 | doom0r | light relection |
| 07:24.08 | Shefki | It doesn't really reflect much. |
| 07:24.59 | doom0r | shoulda put the whiteboard somewhere easier to reach ;x |
| 07:25.15 | Shefki | Whiteboard was there before desk was. |
| 07:25.28 | Shefki | I'd moved the office around right before I took that. |
| 07:25.32 | doom0r | ya, kinda guess that |
| 07:25.37 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r130 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- Missing wotlk potions |
| 07:25.39 | Repo | -- Some quest items |
| 07:25.46 | Shefki | Desk used to look out the window in the room. |
| 07:26.11 | Shefki | Two big Apple displays with glowing Apples screamed steal me. |
| 07:26.34 | Shefki | So I moved the desk. |
| 07:26.41 | doom0r | that's what black drapes/blinds are for :P |
| 07:26.44 | Shefki | Besides couldn't see out the window with the displays in the way. |
| 07:27.21 | Shefki | Blinds are usually closed. But when it's open... |
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| 07:29.03 | doom0r | i avoid light like it's a religous institution |
| 07:30.04 | doom0r | protip: can lights with frosted bulbs (Director by phillips is nice) is great for a desk area |
| 07:30.18 | doom0r | had those in my buddies garage |
| 07:30.32 | doom0r | then put them in a soffit for him when he build his space in the basement he's in now |
| 07:30.36 | Shefki | doom0r: No comment on my stapler? |
| 07:30.45 | doom0r | ;x |
| 07:31.30 | doom0r | when i worked at an auto parts store a few years ago, i didn't have a stapler at the spot they gave me, so when the owner bought me one, he got me a real red swingline |
| 07:32.21 | doom0r | i didn't look that close, is that an actual swingline? |
| 07:33.07 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 07:33.18 | doom0r | nice |
| 07:33.21 | doom0r | they're tanks |
| 07:33.36 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * ab8d95b / (8 files in 5 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 07:33.38 | Repo | ab8d95b: remove a print statement. |
| 07:33.40 | Repo | 7d3879a: Some localization stuff. When a new layout is seen, call :OnNewLayout on all modules, this'll let providers set up defaults. Allow changing of bar provider bar names. |
| 07:34.05 | Bruners | stapler? |
| 07:34.10 | Bruners | swingline ? |
| 07:34.20 | Shefki | You know Swingline didn't even make a red one until after the movie. |
| 07:34.37 | ckknight | hehe |
| 07:35.20 | doom0r | i didn't |
| 07:36.18 | Shefki | Yeah the movie people wanted it to be red to stand out. |
| 07:36.26 | Shefki | So they just painted a black one. |
| 07:36.41 | ckknight | I should watch that movie again |
| 07:36.51 | Bruners | what movie are we talking about? |
| 07:37.08 | Shefki | Office Space |
| 07:37.25 | Shefki | You're not a real geek for not knowing this. |
| 07:37.56 | doom0r | Bruners just got demoted to AC. |
| 07:38.13 | Bruners | i have that movie |
| 07:38.16 | Bruners | E:\DivX\HDTV\Office.Space.HDTV.720p.x264.AC3-5.1-DiC |
| 07:38.26 | Bruners | but i can't say that i remember a stapler |
| 07:38.34 | doom0r | . |
| 07:38.38 | ckknight | the Red Swingline that Milton cherished. |
| 07:38.38 | Shefki | ... |
| 07:38.48 | Shefki | You fail at watching movies. |
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| 07:42.43 | linear` | how do i put \n in my localized strings and then export it without it bugging |
| 07:45.15 | linear` | is it not supported |
| 07:46.58 | ckknight | of course it's supported |
| 07:47.01 | ckknight | how is it "bugging"? |
| 07:49.14 | ckknight | linear`? |
| 07:49.33 | rapidgame | office space is an awesome movie |
| 07:50.29 | rapidgame | +1 for my late IRC resposes haha |
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| 07:56.14 | Ackis | @project broker_tradecooldowns |
| 07:56.16 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'broker_tradecooldowns' |
| 07:56.35 | doom0r | less underscore, more hyphen |
| 07:56.41 | Ackis | @project broker-tradecooldowns |
| 07:56.42 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/projects/broker-tradecooldowns/. Broker_TradeCooldowns. Game: WoW. Zhinjio (Manager/Author). Updated: 34 hours ago. Tickets: 5/17 |
| 07:56.45 | Ackis | damn |
| 07:57.33 | doom0r | you were looking for a name being available? :P |
| 07:57.38 | Ackis | n o |
| 07:57.40 | Ackis | er |
| 07:57.40 | Ackis | no |
| 07:57.54 | Ackis | just Zhinjio has it named as Broker_TradeCooldowns |
| 07:58.07 | Ackis | and the fucking thing isn't updating in the curse client |
| 08:00.03 | linear` | ckknight: when i export my localization it replaces \n with \ and then doesn't put a ] = copyofstringhere after L[ |
| 08:00.15 | ckknight | ...yes it does |
| 08:00.22 | ckknight | paste |
| 08:00.35 | ckknight | you do realize that |
| 08:00.37 | ckknight | "hello\ |
| 08:00.39 | ckknight | there" |
| 08:00.47 | ckknight | is equivalent to "hello\nthere" |
| 08:00.48 | ckknight | right? |
| 08:01.26 | linear` | oh |
| 08:01.27 | linear` | well |
| 08:01.36 | linear` | it doesn't close it |
| 08:01.39 | ckknight | yes it does |
| 08:01.42 | ckknight | paste |
| 08:01.43 | linear` | it just does L["blah \blah" |
| 08:01.46 | ckknight | paste.wowace.com |
| 08:02.54 | Ackis | vhaarr: ping |
| 08:03.08 | ckknight | hey, when's the inauguration? |
| 08:03.12 | quiescens | L["moo"] |
| 08:03.14 | Shefki | 20th |
| 08:03.39 | ckknight | L["moo"] = "baa" |
| 08:03.41 | Xinhuan | in 2 days |
| 08:04.03 | ckknight | okay |
| 08:04.15 | ckknight | well, I'll be watching it on Youtube |
| 08:04.17 | quiescens | for locale "Sheep" |
| 08:04.20 | Shefki | L['cow'] = 'moo' |
| 08:04.27 | ckknight | "shEE" |
| 08:04.32 | linear` | http://pastey.net/106551 thats a section of it |
| 08:04.59 | ckknight | link your project, linear` |
| 08:05.08 | Xinhuan | obama is supposed to be taking some train ride today |
| 08:05.26 | Ackis | maybe he'll get shot |
| 08:05.44 | ckknight | Ackis: the place to do that is at the inauguration, with all those cameras |
| 08:05.48 | ckknight | that'd make a name for yourself |
| 08:06.03 | quiescens | sounds like a movie |
| 08:06.05 | doom0r | The train carrying Obama, his wife Michelle and two daughters, and Vice President-elect Joe Biden and his wife Jill pulled into Washington about 6:30 p.m., with none of the pomp and circumstances -- or speeches -- that marked the day-long train trip. |
| 08:07.54 | Xinhuan | i wonder what he will undo of bush hehe |
| 08:08.24 | ckknight | my guess: |
| 08:08.31 | ckknight | he'll say he's undoing a lot |
| 08:08.37 | Ackis | what did bush do to undo? |
| 08:08.38 | ckknight | and on paper it might look that way |
| 08:08.56 | ckknight | but the bureacracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureacracy. |
| 08:09.38 | Xinhuan | well recalling US troops i guess |
| 08:09.49 | ckknight | not for a while, Xinhuan |
| 08:10.59 | rapidgame | i take it i do not need to have debugging messages translated? |
| 08:11.38 | Shefki | Closing Getmo so they can all end up in Afghanistan at the military prison there instead. |
| 08:12.53 | quiescens | you don't.. technically *need* to have much of anything translated |
| 08:13.22 | Shefki | Be sure to translate spell names. :P |
| 08:14.09 | ckknight | for PitBull4, the only things we translate are the stuff that shows up in config |
| 08:14.10 | ckknight | :P |
| 08:14.15 | ckknight | for the most part |
| 08:14.27 | Shefki | And my tooltips. :) |
| 08:14.44 | rapidgame | quiescens: well, if i was having my addon translated, translated debugging info is overkill, no? |
| 08:15.10 | Shefki | Probably. |
| 08:15.12 | Ackis | ckknight: 500 error on CF renaming a page |
| 08:15.24 | ckknight | did you rename it to a page that already existed? |
| 08:15.45 | Ackis | no |
| 08:15.55 | Ackis | http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/crimson/pages/ |
| 08:16.00 | Ackis | renaming that page to main |
| 08:16.47 | Xinhuan | i've found that creating a new page, copying the content, and then deleting the old one >>> renaming |
| 08:17.22 | Ackis | never had a problem with renaming before |
| 08:17.25 | Ackis | but I'm off to bed |
| 08:17.35 | Xinhuan | cya! |
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| 08:18.04 | rapidgame | laters man |
| 08:18.14 | ckknight | Ackis: yea, main already exists |
| 08:19.00 | ckknight | crisis averted, Ackis |
| 08:19.04 | ckknight | but yea, it's a bug |
| 08:20.13 | Shefki | If I had a dollar for everytime ckknight has said crisis averted today. |
| 08:20.23 | ckknight | what? |
| 08:20.27 | Xinhuan | you would have 4 dollars |
| 08:20.28 | ckknight | everyone thinks everything is a crisis |
| 08:20.36 | ckknight | I avert said crises |
| 08:20.45 | quiescens | I'd call it 2 |
| 08:20.53 | ckknight | actually 4 is probably pretty close |
| 08:21.10 | Shefki | Looks like 3. |
| 08:21.12 | ckknight | meh |
| 08:21.16 | Torhal | Crisis rears its ugly head, suddenly you see "Evade" float above ckknight. |
| 08:21.26 | ckknight | fun fact |
| 08:21.29 | Shefki | But I'm surprised at how many times it's popping up in my log from before today. |
| 08:21.30 | ckknight | Tax Evasion = illegal |
| 08:21.35 | ckknight | Tax Avoision = legal |
| 08:21.38 | ckknight | same thing. |
| 08:21.41 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 08:21.48 | Shefki | No they're not. |
| 08:21.55 | ckknight | close enough |
| 08:21.57 | ckknight | :P |
| 08:22.06 | Shefki | Tax avoidance means taking actions to avoid having a tax liability. |
| 08:22.21 | ckknight | like shipping funds to an offshore holding platform |
| 08:22.21 | Shefki | Tax evasion means taking actions to *HIDE* a tax liability you already have. |
| 08:22.40 | ckknight | alright then |
| 08:22.59 | rapidgame | lol |
| 08:25.09 | Xinhuan | how about Tax Parrying |
| 08:25.19 | Shefki | Example: Let's say you're selling a house. If you lived in the house for a certain amount of time it lowers the tax liability. So waiting for that time to sell the house would be tax avoidance. But if you sold the house anyway for cash and then didn't report it. That's Tax Evasion. |
| 08:25.52 | Shefki | Tax parrying is Blizzard's way of laughing at melee. :P |
| 08:25.59 | Xinhuan | i want Tax Dodging too |
| 08:26.40 | doom0r | you can avoid tax on 250k single, 500k married if you lived 2 or 3 (forget) consecutive years in the house with a 5 year ownership period if you know how to write it off |
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| 08:26.49 | doom0r | that is capitol gains tax |
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| 08:34.10 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 8f80ad5 / (5 files in 3 directories): [+1 commit] make text providers key on name rather than a numeric ID. This simplifies things immensely. |
| 08:45.49 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 9420b12 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] To simplify things, store bar and text providers as frame[module_id .. ";" .. element_id] as well as frame[module_id][element_id] |
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| 08:54.28 | Fisker- | hay guise |
| 08:55.33 | Fisker- | CAUSE IMMA GONNA KILL YA? |
| 08:56.29 | ckknight | woah |
| 08:56.33 | ckknight | hold on there just a minute |
| 08:56.54 | ckknight | you can't start a sentence with a preposition |
| 08:58.21 | theoddone33 | does anyone know if they have plans to fix the [flyable] macro tag in dalaran? |
| 08:58.57 | waallen | I've got a macro that works everywhere if you like |
| 08:59.10 | theoddone33 | ooh, could you share? |
| 08:59.40 | ckknight | this is priceless: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232267701446.jpg (SFW) |
| 08:59.48 | waallen | mplify things, store bar and text providers as frame[module_id .. ";" .. element_id] as well as frame[module_id][element_id] |
| 08:59.54 | waallen | wat |
| 09:00.06 | waallen | /script local m=GetZoneText() if (m=="Dalaran" or m=="Wintergrasp") and (GetSubZoneText()~="Krasus' Landing") then CallCompanion("MOUNT",1);end/use [flyable,nomounted] Bronze Drake; [nomounted] acherus deathcharger |
| 09:00.13 | waallen | and after that /dismount |
| 09:00.41 | theoddone33 | cool |
| 09:01.07 | waallen | the second argument of CallCompanion is the position of your groundmount in the pet panel; just replace bronze drake and acherus deathcharger with your mounts and that should be it |
| 09:02.58 | theoddone33 | cool, works great |
| 09:03.04 | theoddone33 | I never thought of putting /script in a macro :( |
| 09:03.41 | rapidgame | if i make in "in myThing >= MyVar or 100 then" statement, will it only use 100 if MyVar does not exist? |
| 09:04.05 | rapidgame | hmm, don't worry |
| 09:04.11 | ckknight | bad statement. |
| 09:04.18 | Fisker- | yo dawgs |
| 09:04.21 | ckknight | yo |
| 09:04.31 | ckknight | rapidgame: if myThing >= (MyVar or 100) then |
| 09:04.43 | ckknight | rapidgame: make sure to use parentheses in that case, or has low priority |
| 09:05.01 | rapidgame | okay, would 100 only be used if MyVar didn't exist? |
| 09:05.29 | ckknight | existence is arbitrary |
| 09:05.33 | ckknight | you're checking whether it's nil or false |
| 09:05.36 | theoddone33 | I made a small improvement by putting /cast Slow Fall after this dismount :) |
| 09:05.53 | rapidgame | well, if it was nil would 100 be used? |
| 09:06.03 | ckknight | yes, rapidgame |
| 09:06.14 | rapidgame | cool, cheers :-) |
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| 09:24.19 | Fisker- | dislikes doom0r |
| 09:24.51 | doom0r | that's nice |
| 09:25.56 | rapidgame | a bit mean? |
| 09:26.32 | ckknight | rapidgame: Fisker-'s our pet troll |
| 09:27.37 | rapidgame | lol okay? |
| 09:28.27 | Shefki | feeds Fisker some left over ribs. |
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| 09:34.02 | theoddone33 | I was just thinking |
| 09:34.09 | doom0r | lies |
| 09:34.18 | Zyndrome | we could go do |
| 09:34.21 | Zyndrome | something ... diiiirty |
| 09:34.36 | theoddone33 | i was thinking how I wanted a program that analyzes a profession's skill tree and computes the cheapest way to get each skill point |
| 09:34.47 | theoddone33 | then I realized you could roll it into a mod that auto-buys stuff on the AH for you |
| 09:35.13 | theoddone33 | but then I realized every time I have a mod idea, it's already been done |
| 09:35.21 | theoddone33 | that one might not have been though |
| 09:35.42 | doom0r | just use lsw and auctioneer |
| 09:36.47 | theoddone33 | it'd be cool to press a button and have it go away and come up with "1-300 will cost you 1000g, go?" |
| 09:37.07 | doom0r | impossible |
| 09:37.19 | theoddone33 | it can't auto-buy things? |
| 09:37.31 | doom0r | markets can change |
| 09:37.45 | theoddone33 | it'd be working off a current AH parse |
| 09:38.19 | theoddone33 | accounting for gaps in availability and such |
| 09:38.41 | doom0r | by the time you finish a scan, everything could change |
| 09:38.45 | doom0r | price/availability |
| 09:38.56 | theoddone33 | that's fair |
| 09:39.30 | rapidgame | it would give you a rough guess though |
| 09:39.41 | theoddone33 | it'd be fairly reliable I think |
| 09:39.51 | theoddone33 | at least for an "I'm the laziest person in the world" addon |
| 09:41.01 | theoddone33 | of course it'd take me less time to just farm mats for JCing than to write that addon |
| 09:41.20 | theoddone33 | but I may need to switch to blacksmithing in a patch or two (!) |
| 09:41.36 | rapidgame | you could take the info off wowwiki's guides, aren't they quite conservative? |
| 09:41.52 | theoddone33 | that's the thing, I don't trust those |
| 09:41.59 | theoddone33 | or at least I don't trust that they're the cheapest way to do it |
| 09:42.01 | doom0r | then use the one on the forums |
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| 09:43.17 | rapidgame | if you find a cheaper way let me know haha |
| 09:43.20 | doom0r | gfg |
| 09:43.24 | theoddone33 | it's like, I've got 30 points of moss agate which are 6g each |
| 09:43.42 | theoddone33 | but I can also use jade for those points and someone may have undervalued jade |
| 09:44.00 | theoddone33 | if I'm just going with the guide I don't care if I can use jade or not, I'm gonna buy 180g of moss agate |
| 09:44.04 | rapidgame | so you want to check the AH for the most efficient profession leveling route based on the current prices |
| 09:44.10 | theoddone33 | correct |
| 09:44.14 | doom0r | then go install lsw and level already |
| 09:44.16 | theoddone33 | and auto-buy them :) |
| 09:45.00 | rapidgame | would it really be worth the time to make it autobuy? Be quicker just to buy it yourself than code it haha |
| 09:45.25 | doom0r | you'd have 50 skill points by now if you used the existing tools :P |
| 09:45.32 | rapidgame | lol |
| 09:45.33 | theoddone33 | no |
| 09:45.37 | theoddone33 | I only have 40g :( heh |
| 09:45.47 | theoddone33 | ok but |
| 09:46.05 | theoddone33 | one time I spent an afternoon figuring out how to make my editor evaluate mathematical expressions and turn stuff from hex to decimal and back |
| 09:46.21 | theoddone33 | because it would save me a few seconds of pulling up calculator a couple times a day |
| 09:46.25 | theoddone33 | so... yeah |
| 09:46.35 | ckknight | Fisker-: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232271777233.png |
| 09:47.05 | Fisker- | y so srs? |
| 09:47.17 | theoddone33 | taking hours to code something I could do in a few minutes is well within my philosophy of coding |
| 09:47.26 | theoddone33 | if I'm going to do the thing more than once |
| 09:47.41 | ckknight | ~laziness |
| 09:47.42 | purl | LAZINESS: The quality that makes you go to great effort to reduce overall energy expenditure. It makes you write labor-saving programs that other people will find useful, and document what you wrote so you don't have to answer so many questions about it. Hence, the first great virtue of a programmer. |
| 09:47.57 | theoddone33 | fuckin larry wall |
| 09:47.59 | theoddone33 | but yeah |
| 09:48.11 | doom0r | here's a solution |
| 09:48.12 | ckknight | what's wrong with Larry Wall? |
| 09:48.20 | theoddone33 | he made perl? |
| 09:48.26 | doom0r | don't ah shit, go farm it, you'll have money AND skill pionts |
| 09:49.13 | theoddone33 | I know there are lots of ways to solve the problem of "I don't have enough skill points" |
| 09:49.14 | ckknight | so? perl was good in its day |
| 09:49.22 | ckknight | compared to the alternatives, especially |
| 09:49.31 | theoddone33 | yeah it was useful for a time |
| 09:49.37 | theoddone33 | it's still useful for brief programs |
| 09:49.44 | Shefki | Perl is actually still a great language for what it was made for. |
| 09:49.48 | ckknight | yea |
| 09:49.53 | Shefki | It was designed to parse text. |
| 09:49.54 | theoddone33 | I prefer python these days |
| 09:49.57 | Shefki | Not write everything possible. |
| 09:49.59 | ckknight | I think that for the majority of things it's used for nowadays, there are better solutions |
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| 09:50.03 | theoddone33 | I was a big perl fan back in the day though |
| 09:50.21 | Shefki | Practical Extraction and Report Language. |
| 09:50.34 | Shefki | Which is admittingly somewhat of a retronym. |
| 09:51.39 | Shefki | Or you can always use Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister. |
| 09:51.46 | Shefki | Both of which Larry Wall came up with. |
| 09:52.28 | rapidgame | wtf is with Fisker- haha? |
| 09:52.34 | doom0r | somewhat? |
| 09:52.50 | doom0r | the language follows the rule for nub naming in mmo's and the like |
| 09:53.09 | Shefki | Care to explain that? |
| 09:53.19 | doom0r | "If someone has name that is sought, find another way to spell it, no matter how horrible it is." |
| 09:53.29 | doom0r | it was supposed to be pearl |
| 09:53.32 | doom0r | but that was taken |
| 09:54.42 | ckknight | hai, I'm leggolass |
| 09:54.55 | Fisker- | I'm legolas |
| 09:55.18 | Shefki | Hi I'm Shefki, my name was generated by a random name generator written by Square. |
| 09:55.27 | Shefki | True story. |
| 09:55.40 | ckknight | really? |
| 09:55.41 | doom0r | as in squaresoft? |
| 09:55.44 | ckknight | hehe |
| 09:55.53 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 09:55.59 | Shefki | To both. |
| 09:56.16 | Shefki | Before they were Square-Enix. |
| 09:56.31 | Fisker- | FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 09:56.33 | Shefki | Though I'm trying to remember if they'd dropped the soft by that point or not. |
| 09:56.39 | Fisker- | i thought i had lost my pvp trinket |
| 09:56.42 | Fisker- | so i bought the new one |
| 09:56.47 | Fisker- | Turns out my old one was in the bank :E |
| 09:57.11 | Kuja^ | ~fail Fisker- |
| 09:57.12 | purl | Fisker-, you Fail! |
| 09:57.17 | doom0r | no |
| 09:57.21 | doom0r | ~epicfail Fisker- |
| 09:57.23 | Fisker- | no u Kuja^ |
| 09:57.25 | Fisker- | no u doom0r |
| 09:57.27 | Fisker- | ~epic fail doom0r |
| 09:57.27 | purl | doom0r, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you doom0r, you are that epic failure. |
| 09:57.30 | Kuja^ | or that |
| 09:57.35 | Shefki | Should have used an inventory addon that lets you search your junk. |
| 09:57.47 | Shefki | And I say junk because Fisker has nothing worth more than junk. |
| 09:57.48 | doom0r | Shefki: let's be realistic |
| 09:57.59 | doom0r | NOTHING, i say NOTHING, wants to search Fisker-'s junk |
| 09:58.14 | Kuja^ | Shefki: now, heh, thats just like what i thought :p |
| 09:58.53 | Shefki | Kuja^: But I'm the right person to say it. Because it's ironical if I say it. |
| 09:59.15 | doom0r | there used to be a perfect guild name on my server for Fisker- |
| 09:59.24 | doom0r | Strangers Have Candy |
| 10:00.04 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 0ee707c / (6 files in 4 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 10:00.06 | Repo | 0ee707c: change providers' layout_db.bars => layout_db.elements, same for texts. |
| 10:00.09 | Repo | 2854faf: bugfix |
| 10:00.18 | Shefki | There's a guild name that has something about vans and candy on our realm. |
| 10:00.37 | ckknight | everyone into the FBI partyvan! |
| 10:00.38 | Shefki | But it's like someones bank guild and nobody is on it atm so I don't remember exactly what the name is. |
| 10:01.13 | doom0r | gm made em change it |
| 10:01.13 | rapidgame | so Fisker- is a real person? |
| 10:01.18 | doom0r | think it became Get In The Van |
| 10:01.34 | EthanCentaurai | Fisker- is a troll |
| 10:01.45 | rapidgame | a bot or a person? |
| 10:01.53 | EthanCentaurai | person |
| 10:02.01 | rapidgame | oh, lol - i couldn't tell |
| 10:02.20 | EthanCentaurai | the kind of person who loves to moan about things, and hates it when people disagree with him |
| 10:02.29 | gix | right. so i was herbing in sholazar and a rare spawned in front of my eyes. while i was waiting for some guildies to arrive a group of horde show up and i quickly killed it. now one of them made a clown out of himself harrassing me on an alliance toon, saying i'm now on top of the kos-list of their "200 people guild". |
| 10:02.33 | rapidgame | lol |
| 10:02.57 | theoddone33 | that sucks for you I guess |
| 10:03.07 | theoddone33 | did it drop anything? or just for the achievement |
| 10:03.07 | Shefki | People actually bother to do KOS in WoW? |
| 10:03.17 | doom0r | absolutely |
| 10:03.19 | rapidgame | everyone is KOS in wow |
| 10:03.25 | Lukian | lmao |
| 10:03.28 | Lukian | what rapidgame said |
| 10:03.36 | Shefki | I meant like keep a list. |
| 10:03.45 | Shefki | That always seemed like childish BS to me. /shrug |
| 10:03.52 | doom0r | @project vana-ko-s |
| 10:03.54 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'vana-ko-s' |
| 10:04.00 | doom0r | @project vanasko-s |
| 10:04.00 | Fisker- | shall we play a game? |
| 10:04.01 | Repo | doom0r: No project found that matches 'vanasko-s' |
| 10:04.02 | doom0r | aklsdfj |
| 10:04.05 | EthanCentaurai | @project vanas-ko-s |
| 10:04.07 | Repo | EthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/vanas-ko-s/. VanasKoS. Game: WoW. Vana (Manager/Author), xilcoy (Author). Updated: 7 hours ago. Tickets: 3/6 |
| 10:04.12 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 10:04.14 | doom0r | ya, insert was on |
| 10:04.29 | gix | theoddone33: yeah it was just for the achievement. |
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| 10:04.51 | doom0r | everything for the achievement drops something |
| 10:04.57 | rapidgame | git doesn't seem to like emails with a + in them |
| 10:05.13 | Shefki | Websites that refuse to allow + annoy the crap out of me. |
| 10:05.31 | gix | yeah, some blue and crystallized earth or so |
| 10:05.40 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * e9ede80 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] whoops, fix some references |
| 10:06.16 | rapidgame | my gmail with a + in it isn't working |
| 10:08.13 | Shefki | rapidgame: git seems very much like a Stapp's Law candidate. |
| 10:09.06 | rapidgame | Shefki: Stapps Law? |
| 10:09.23 | many | "The universal aptitude for ineptitude makes any human accomplishment an incredible miracle." |
| 10:11.22 | doom0r | fastest man on earth |
| 10:12.06 | rapidgame | also, how come the changelog for some addons, like http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/vanas-ko-s.aspx, apear in that format, while mine, http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pillager.aspx is in a different (crappier IMO) format? [haha, i know it's pretty trivial] |
| 10:12.51 | Shefki | rapidgame: That's the SVN format. |
| 10:12.54 | Shefki | You're using git. |
| 10:13.07 | rapidgame | the git format is lame haha |
| 10:13.24 | Shefki | And now we're back to where we started. |
| 10:13.31 | rapidgame | but i guess i understand the reason for it though haha |
| 10:13.42 | rapidgame | so im sticking with it ;-) |
| 10:14.10 | rapidgame | i just liked that nice big (waste of space) changelog, makes it look like I've done much more work lol |
| 10:14.11 | Shefki | Honestly, there's virtually no reason that git is useful for developing wow addons. |
| 10:14.18 | Shefki | The projects are big enough to really use git... |
| 10:14.24 | Shefki | You can't test a WoW addon offline. |
| 10:14.38 | Shefki | So offline commits aren't very useful. |
| 10:14.52 | ckknight | I like local branches |
| 10:15.02 | rapidgame | atleast i know what revision control is now though haha, and the packager makes thing quite easy |
| 10:15.19 | EthanCentaurai | rapidgame: you could always modify the changelogs yourself ;) |
| 10:15.32 | EthanCentaurai | that's just a default templae |
| 10:15.39 | EthanCentaurai | s/templae/template/ |
| 10:15.59 | Shefki | ckknight: *shrug* I generally do that in SVN by just having more than one wc. |
| 10:16.10 | rapidgame | EthanCentaurai: hmm, i might look into that then lol, the SCN one looks nice haha |
| 10:16.13 | rapidgame | wc? |
| 10:16.17 | Shefki | working copy |
| 10:16.28 | rapidgame | oh |
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| 10:16.53 | Shefki | *shrug* I have some personal bias towards SVN since I put a lot of work into it. |
| 10:16.55 | rapidgame | well, im off to bed, gotta be at work in 5 hours - thanks for all your help again guys |
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| 10:17.07 | EthanCentaurai | good night |
| 10:17.19 | EthanCentaurai | goes to fetch breakfast |
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| 10:32.02 | Shefki | Wish lua supported %a for format. |
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| 10:35.56 | Shefki | 1.645000e+01 1.645000e+01 true false |
| 10:36.06 | Shefki | a b a < b a == b |
| 10:36.12 | Shefki | WTH |
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| 10:38.27 | Shefki | 1.645000e+01 1.645000e+01 true false -1.0658141036402e-14 |
| 10:38.35 | Shefki | a b a<b a==b a-b |
| 10:38.50 | Shefki | Bahh. |
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| 10:49.06 | quiescens | you're technically never meant to use == with floats anyway |
| 10:49.46 | Shefki | I was only doing that to demonstrate my issue. Damn I hate that scaling causes positions to be floats in the game. |
| 10:49.59 | quiescens | ): |
| 10:50.24 | Shefki | And because of scaling I'm not exactly sure what precision is good enough. |
| 10:52.51 | krka | good enough for what? |
| 10:53.16 | Shefki | Guess I'll do: |
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| 10:54.18 | Shefki | epsilon = .00005; x = (a * b) / b; abs(x - a) < abs(x+a)*epsilon |
| 10:55.08 | Kuja^ | ckknight: so what if i found a typo in the english locale, will it work if i change that in the localization system or shouldn't i do that? |
| 10:55.09 | Shefki | Which makes the precision scale with the floats. |
| 10:55.25 | Shefki | Kuja^: Ticket those. |
| 10:56.05 | Shefki | quiescens: It's also easy to forget you're dealing with floats in lua because type is implicit. |
| 10:56.59 | Shefki | krka: And to answer your question. Layout code. I noticed some odd positioning that didn't make any sense. |
| 10:57.38 | CIA-63 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r9cd1177 10/ TourGuide_Alliance/75_76_ZulDrak.lua : |
| 10:57.38 | CIA-63 | tourguide: Last of ally ZD, huzzah |
| 10:57.39 | CIA-63 | tourguide: Aside from the bear god watersports, that zone was kinda boring... - http://tinyurl.com/9h6a2s |
| 10:57.40 | CIA-63 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r8fbba7a 10/ (5 files): Level range tweaks - http://tinyurl.com/75ckm6 |
| 10:57.41 | CIA-63 | tourguide: 03Tekkub 07master * r1e083cb 10/ TourGuide_Alliance/77_78_Sholazar_Basin.lua : And into the basin - http://tinyurl.com/a8v9nn |
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| 10:59.49 | Arrowmaster | take a look at blizzards achivement frame code, they use a '+ 0.001' hack all over the place to deal with scaling |
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| 11:00.18 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r20 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 11:00.20 | Repo | - Fixed a bug in :GetGemID(item) |
| 11:00.22 | Repo | - Support for enchant statmods: |
| 11:00.25 | Repo | - Enchant: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle: +2% Stamina |
| 11:00.27 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Thanks for the pointer. |
| 11:00.28 | Repo | - Enchant: Rune of Spellshattering: Deflects 4% of all spell damage |
| 11:00.30 | doom0r | anything for getting the spam, not just counting it, across addon channel? |
| 11:00.45 | doom0r | nvm, found it in addonspamfu |
| 11:03.47 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Hmm I'm not seeing what they did. |
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| 11:06.55 | ckknight | Kuja^: change the phrase if the key is the same as the english text. if they're different, just change the English text. |
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| 11:07.07 | ckknight | Kuja^: unless it's not your addon, at which point you should tell the author |
| 11:07.29 | Shefki | ckknight: I think he's talking about PB4. |
| 11:07.43 | ckknight | Kuja^: are you? |
| 11:08.26 | Repo | 10chinon: 03Sidoine * r68 / (7 files in 2 directories): Chinon: |
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| 11:08.30 | Repo | - can type directly the spell name instead of its identifier |
| 11:08.33 | Repo | - can display unit name on the button |
| 11:08.33 | Kuja^ | ckknight: no im not talking about pb and no its not my addon |
| 11:08.45 | ckknight | tell the author |
| 11:09.05 | Repo | 10chinon: 03Sidoine * r69 Chinon.toc: Chinon: |
| 11:09.06 | Repo | -version number |
| 11:09.20 | Repo | 10chinon: 03Sidoine 043.0.9 * r70 : Chinon: |
| 11:09.22 | Repo | - tag |
| 11:09.41 | Kuja^ | k, was just curious if it will eat kittens if i had done it or whatever :) |
| 11:10.22 | ckknight | it won't let you |
| 11:10.24 | ckknight | that's all |
| 11:10.33 | nevcairiel | morning |
| 11:11.03 | ckknight | hey nevcairiel |
| 11:11.30 | Kuja^ | fair enough |
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| 11:38.34 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 45278d5 / (4 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 11:38.36 | Repo | 45278d5: simplify some logic. Make it so texts can be positioned against one another and indicators rather than always being put on the end. |
| 11:38.38 | Repo | 45baace: merge the text/indicator positioning logic. |
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| 11:47.10 | ckknight | ha: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1232278581245.jpg |
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| 11:55.23 | Chosi | moo |
| 11:55.34 | Chosi | does anybody know a working alternative to wishlist? |
| 11:55.53 | doom0r | moo is right |
| 11:56.00 | doom0r | cause it works |
| 11:56.30 | Chosi | not for me :\ |
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| 11:56.47 | Chosi | attempt to index field db and index which are nil values |
| 11:57.07 | doom0r | version? |
| 11:57.26 | Chosi | r49 |
| 11:57.35 | Chosi | cia curse client |
| 11:57.48 | Chosi | locale issue? |
| 11:58.03 | doom0r | what's the full error? |
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| 11:59.04 | Chosi | ...\wishlist.lua:213: attemt to index field 'db' (a nil value) |
| 11:59.09 | Chosi | same for item |
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| 11:59.13 | Chosi | instead of db |
| 11:59.23 | quiescens | moo |
| 11:59.25 | doom0r | when does it happen? |
| 11:59.36 | Chosi | item error message on launch |
| 11:59.45 | Chosi | db on mouseover |
| 11:59.56 | Chosi | while hovering over the fortress button |
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| 12:04.25 | doom0r | there more to that error? |
| 12:05.13 | Chosi | uhm don't have some error catching addon installed, waiot |
| 12:05.14 | Chosi | *wait |
| 12:12.54 | Chosi | alright |
| 12:12.56 | Chosi | Wishlist-0.5\Wishlist-deDE.lua:11: AceLocale(Wishlist): Improper translation exists. "Arena S1 - " is likely misspelled for locale deDE. |
| 12:13.02 | Chosi | that's one |
| 12:13.26 | Chosi | does wishlist come with it's own acelocale? |
| 12:13.43 | Chosi | mh yes it does |
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| 12:19.25 | doom0r | the translations have "Arena S# - " when enUS doesn't |
| 12:19.41 | doom0r | don't think they're needed either |
| 12:19.57 | doom0r | cause enUS works fine |
| 12:20.50 | Chosi | so? any way i could fix that? |
| 12:21.05 | doom0r | comment/remove the "Arena S# - " lines |
| 12:21.59 | doom0r | under AtlasLoot table data |
| 12:22.02 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r4910-release * r4909 : Tagging as r4910-release |
| 12:23.40 | doom0r | Chosi: arena armor |
| 12:23.46 | doom0r | and lvl80 pvp don't exist |
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| 12:24.30 | doom0r | pretty sure it thinks that "Arena S1 - " = ... is a mispelled line for "Arena Armor - " |
| 12:24.59 | doom0r | either way, it's a perfect example or not managing locales properly ;x |
| 12:25.02 | Shefki | doom0r: Some of the gear on beta was named Arena S5. |
| 12:25.06 | doom0r | s/or/of/ |
| 12:25.08 | Shefki | Maybe that's where it came from. |
| 12:25.24 | doom0r | probably, the locales didn't get updated with base translations |
| 12:25.31 | doom0r | author should do that no matter what imo |
| 12:25.42 | doom0r | even comment em with TODO after it or something |
| 12:26.07 | Chosi | still getting Wishlist-0.5\Wishlist.lua:284: attempt to index local 'item' (a nil value) |
| 12:26.11 | Chosi | but mouseover works |
| 12:26.23 | Chosi | and it shows functionality |
| 12:26.27 | Chosi | so nevermind |
| 12:26.39 | Chosi | maybe because there's nothing on the list yet |
| 12:26.40 | Chosi | :> |
| 12:26.53 | doom0r | no, shouldn't error |
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| 12:31.46 | doom0r | there more to that error? |
| 12:32.17 | Chosi | no that's all |
| 12:32.18 | Chosi | [2009/01/18 13:25:43-2-x1]: Wishlist-0.5\Wishlist.lua:284: attempt to index local 'item' (a nil value) |
| 12:33.36 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory): correct a few bugs in broker tooltip and quests Tracker |
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| 12:38.59 | doom0r | that's just the message line |
| 12:39.07 | doom0r | not a trace |
| 12:40.57 | Chosi | well |
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| 12:41.29 | Chosi | how do i shot web? |
| 12:41.30 | Chosi | :D |
| 12:41.38 | Chosi | what do i need to get a trace? |
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| 12:43.21 | doom0r | what are you using for an error catcher? |
| 12:43.51 | Chosi | buggrabber |
| 12:43.55 | Chosi | +bugsack |
| 12:45.27 | doom0r | there's no lines past that? |
| 12:46.15 | Arrowmaster | seems like a simple error to me |
| 12:46.16 | Chosi | http://nopaste.narf.at/f65b8c354# |
| 12:46.17 | Chosi | http://nopaste.narf.at/f65b8c35 |
| 12:46.24 | Chosi | goddammit. |
| 12:46.26 | doom0r | directory name Arrowmaster ? |
| 12:46.26 | Chosi | add the 4 please |
| 12:46.55 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 12:47.33 | Chosi | from that error...could baggins be the problem? |
| 12:47.38 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:47.44 | Chosi | okay |
| 12:47.46 | Arrowmaster | the error is in wishlist and nothing else |
| 12:48.04 | Chosi | alright |
| 12:48.52 | Arrowmaster | the local variable item is nil on line 284 and its trying to access it like a table |
| 12:49.02 | doom0r | that's just the version of the library loaded, that's why you see baggins |
| 12:49.11 | Chosi | ok |
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| 12:52.09 | Chosi | so? what do i do to stop it? :) |
| 12:52.31 | spode | Hmm.. how do I change texture in Pitbull 4? |
| 12:57.36 | kenlyric | anyone use underhood and know why it comes with no default frames? |
| 12:57.46 | ckknight | spode: /pb4 |
| 12:58.16 | spode | yeah I've been searching but can't seem to find it |
| 12:58.26 | ckknight | Layout editor |
| 12:58.29 | ckknight | Bars |
| 12:58.35 | ckknight | General -> Default texture |
| 12:58.41 | ckknight | or (Any bar) -> Texture |
| 12:58.54 | ckknight | note: only works if you have SharedMedia installed |
| 12:58.59 | ckknight | forgot to mention |
| 12:59.01 | ckknight | install that |
| 12:59.04 | spode | libsharedmedia? |
| 12:59.09 | ckknight | SharedMedia |
| 12:59.12 | spode | Aight. |
| 12:59.14 | ckknight | it has a bunch of textures |
| 12:59.14 | kenlyric | or know how to hide default party/focus/other frames using icehud |
| 13:00.04 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: you dont include lsm-3 do you? |
| 13:00.13 | ckknight | I do, Arrowmaster |
| 13:00.24 | ckknight | but it can be removed without consequence |
| 13:00.25 | Arrowmaster | ok, because sharedmedia doesnt |
| 13:00.39 | ckknight | that seems odd |
| 13:01.06 | vhaarr | it seems odd, but if you don't have any other addons using LSM, then why would you install SharedMedia in the first place |
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| 13:02.10 | Chosi | LibBabble-Zone-3.0-90170 is that one old? |
| 13:02.15 | ckknight | if it loads first, maybe? |
| 13:02.21 | Chosi | cause it throws errors too |
| 13:02.34 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt throw errors |
| 13:02.41 | Chosi | mendeleev does |
| 13:02.42 | Chosi | ok |
| 13:02.52 | Chosi | Arrowmaster: talking bout additional errors |
| 13:02.58 | Chosi | not about that wishlist issue |
| 13:02.59 | Chosi | :) |
| 13:03.22 | Arrowmaster | i have 90171 |
| 13:03.31 | Arrowmaster | and i use mendeleev too and it doesnt error |
| 13:04.35 | Chosi | hrm |
| 13:04.48 | vhaarr | ckknight: yeah, good point, I haven't checked the SharedMedia code to see if it handles that |
| 13:05.09 | Arrowmaster | vhaarr: it does, i wrote it |
| 13:05.22 | vhaarr | okay nice |
| 13:05.41 | Chosi | ok Arrowmaster: reinstalled via curse and it's fine now |
| 13:05.59 | Chosi | only one error left besides the wishlist one |
| 13:05.59 | Chosi | :> |
| 13:06.22 | Chosi | the baggins one from the nopaste post |
| 13:07.56 | Arrowmaster | it has nothing to do with baggins |
| 13:08.05 | Arrowmaster | wait for a fix for wishlist |
| 13:08.40 | Chosi | nah i was just wondering how to fix the baggins one |
| 13:08.41 | Chosi | :) |
| 13:09.19 | Arrowmaster | i didnt see any baggins errors in what you pasted |
| 13:10.53 | Chosi | ah |
| 13:11.03 | thul | juhu, finally, firefly done donwloading :-D |
| 13:11.04 | Chosi | AceAddon-2.0-91094 and AceEvent-2.0-91091 |
| 13:11.53 | kenlyric | jesus this is dumb. Nothing in the documentation says I have to make every single frame myself. |
| 13:11.58 | Chosi | ckknight: could it be that the snapping in pb4 is broken? |
| 13:12.14 | Chosi | my frames always jump up some pixels |
| 13:12.18 | Chosi | when i drop them |
| 13:15.37 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r236 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: v2.2.0.4 |
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| 13:18.28 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v2.2.0.4 * r237 : Tagging as v2.2.0.4 |
| 13:20.51 | gix | is there any way to enable shadow/outline for texts in pitbull4? |
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| 13:32.32 | Shefki | gix: Use DogTags |
| 13:33.29 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Dessa * r21 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: deDE update |
| 13:34.59 | gix | hm. looks weird |
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| 13:42.16 | gix | Shefki: but there's no way to add a shadow? |
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| 13:44.17 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r25 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 13:44.20 | Repo | Tidied up the config UI because it was driving me nuts and I found the docs. |
| 13:44.22 | Repo | Added an (empty) WoWMock file where I'm going to start putting mocks for testing |
| 13:44.25 | Repo | outside of WoW. |
| 13:46.32 | Repo | 10eggtimer: 03jokeyrhyme * r28 / (2 files in 1 directory): EggTimer: |
| 13:46.34 | Repo | - correct AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets and LibSharedMedia-3.0 load order |
| 13:46.37 | Repo | - correct LibSharedMedia-3.0 repository |
| 13:46.39 | Repo | - possible fix for all the evil in the world |
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| 14:07.40 | selckin | ckknight: please make the (dogtag) text fields bigger in pb4, its annoying to read/write with it wordwrapping so tiny all over the place |
| 14:22.01 | Pneumatus | selckin: create your tag in /dog then c+p? |
| 14:23.07 | dieck | hi! is there any api function to set a player afk? |
| 14:23.33 | Repo | 10enhancedcalendar: 03Pericles * r15 / (2 files in 1 directory): RaidInviter: - |
| 14:23.35 | Repo | Version 0.10 - Can now detect events, populate dropdown and display details of selected event including icon. |
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| 14:48.56 | Fisker- | yaaaaaaaar |
| 14:48.58 | Fisker- | why so undying? |
| 14:49.25 | Fisker- | only malygos and obsidian achievements left :( |
| 14:50.10 | thul | it is the snowing: http://fc10.deviantart.com/fs40/i/2009/018/a/c/Snow_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
| 14:53.25 | Pneumatus | you got undying Fisker-? |
| 14:53.39 | Pneumatus | is that the 10man one? |
| 14:53.42 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 14:54.17 | Pneumatus | good luck with sarth+3 :o |
| 14:54.38 | Pneumatus | can't get the tactics sorted for that still :< |
| 14:55.03 | dieck | Pneumatus: quite simle, first the 3, then the one ;) |
| 14:55.36 | Fisker- | Undying is frustrating though |
| 14:55.40 | Zyndrome | pow pow the 3 drakes, profit |
| 14:55.42 | Zyndrome | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 14:55.43 | Fisker- | Cause if you make one mistake it's gg next week :( |
| 14:56.02 | Fisker- | That's almost what happened today |
| 14:56.12 | Fisker- | Someone almost died on 4 horsemen :P |
| 14:56.17 | dieck | Fisker-: is undying bossfights only or trash also? |
| 14:56.18 | Fisker- | had like 5% hp left |
| 14:56.21 | Fisker- | bossfights only |
| 14:56.28 | dieck | ah, ok |
| 14:56.35 | Pneumatus | yeh you can wipe on frogger slimes all you want |
| 14:56.35 | dieck | we make most mistakes on trash ;) |
| 14:57.07 | nevcairiel | there should be a frogger achievement |
| 14:57.11 | Zyndrome | would've gotten Undying some time go if it wasn't for mages breaking their faces by smashing it on their keyboards all the time |
| 14:58.13 | Zyndrome | one of our hunters died on the frogger slimes ... during Patchwerk |
| 14:58.32 | Zyndrome | the word "huntard" still stands |
| 14:59.00 | gix | weird position |
| 14:59.05 | Fisker- | very |
| 14:59.47 | Fisker- | maybe they thought that tanking patchwerk in the slime would reduce his hp? :D |
| 15:00.33 | Zyndrome | if only .. we barely ever have any hunters online, and when they are, they just fuck up |
| 15:04.00 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r26 / (4 files in 1 directory): Fixed standalone idiocy for testing |
| 15:12.58 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03jlam * r35 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 15:13.01 | Repo | GetHealSize may be called with "nil" as the target in the case of a "Party" heal. Check that it's non-nil before checking the buffs on target. This should fix an error in detecting the Grace buff when Prayer of Healing is cast. |
| 15:16.37 | Zhinjio | G"morning |
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| 15:41.31 | Zhinjio | yikes. |
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| 15:54.09 | jjgh345 | hello? |
| 15:54.16 | jjgh345 | Can anyone recruit me here? |
| 15:54.28 | nevcairiel | recruit? |
| 15:54.36 | Zyndrome | ·_. |
| 15:54.54 | jjgh345 | ya |
| 15:54.59 | Zhinjio | jjgh345: didn't you get the point last night? |
| 15:55.00 | nevcairiel | recruit to what? |
| 15:55.02 | jjgh345 | recruit a friend |
| 15:55.05 | Zhinjio | This is NOT the place for that. |
| 15:55.20 | jjgh345 | uh what are you talking about? |
| 15:55.33 | Zhinjio | you're asking in the wrong place. |
| 15:55.38 | jjgh345 | ok |
| 15:55.43 | jjgh345 | sorry |
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| 16:39.12 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: bigwigs is not anywhere close to high on cpu/s in 25man fights. |
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| 17:01.29 | Gnarfoz | Zhinjio: how is it the wrong place? |
| 17:01.39 | Gnarfoz | I would have happily done it would I have a US account |
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| 17:07.39 | Zhinjio | Gnarfoz: he was kicked from channel last night for it. Go fight with channel admins about it, not me. |
| 17:07.58 | Ackis | refered him already lol |
| 17:08.49 | Ackis | Zhinjio: i've been doing work on collectinator, there's no gui component to it at all yet, just been dealing with the database integrity, and started localizing it/adding filters |
| 17:11.19 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 17:11.40 | Zhinjio | redoing my UI again |
| 17:11.52 | Zhinjio | but I'll get with you in an hour or so and chat more about it |
| 17:12.55 | Ackis | k i'm heading out right now for a bit, just wanted to let you know where the status was at in case you wanted to dick around with it |
| 17:13.06 | Gnarfoz | Zhinjio: I'd wonder why he was kicked, rofl |
| 17:15.23 | Gnarfoz | man, this CPU usage analyzing is really bad :p |
| 17:15.45 | Zhinjio | Ackis: ok, thanks |
| 17:15.54 | Fisker- | it's Gnarfoz get him! |
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| 17:18.03 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth * r68 / (2 files in 1 directory): -- Dalaran Brilliance and Intellect added to int buff group |
| 17:18.06 | Repo | -- Changed icon to the Dalaran one |
| 17:19.15 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: He was kicked because he kept asking the same question over nad over even though he was answered several times. |
| 17:19.47 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: well, he was probably answered in a certain kind of way that is usual here :p |
| 17:20.09 | Torhal | And in more helpful ways |
| 17:20.31 | Torhal | He was simply refusing to understand. ckknight even threw up a letmegooglethatforyou link |
| 17:21.14 | Torhal | I'm trying to figure out how someone who can't go to worldofwarcraft.com and see the big shiny 10-day-trial and refer-a-friend links can find the WoWAce IRC channel in the first place |
| 17:23.07 | Fisker- | Maybe he's trying to be HELPFUL? |
| 17:23.36 | Torhal | ? |
| 17:24.27 | Fisker- | By getting someone a free month if he decide to upgrade and play? |
| 17:25.10 | Torhal | Well, today maybe. But last night he was asking whre to download the game. Several times. After being answered. Several times. |
| 17:26.40 | Zhinjio | G"morning Torhal |
| 17:26.46 | Torhal | Yola, Zhinjio |
| 17:28.16 | Repo | 10buttonfacade: 03StormFX * r210 / (15 files in 5 directories): - Tag Cleanup |
| 17:28.18 | Repo | - Add a base esMX file. |
| 17:28.21 | Repo | - Reformat locales for WoWAce's export feature. |
| 17:28.23 | Repo | - Load locales and embeds directly from ToC. |
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| 17:31.54 | Repo | 10procodile: 03Zarnivoop * r79 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 17:31.58 | Repo | Cooldowns/aura bars options are now defaults only. Tracking stacking buffs and aura refreshes. Removes auras now if prematurely removed (dispell or whatever). |
| 17:33.14 | Repo | 10grid-status-missing-buffs: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.03.04 release * r69 : Tagging as v3.00.03.04 release |
| 17:37.39 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r148 / (3 files in 1 directory): - internal player id cleanup |
| 17:37.40 | Repo | - internal UI cleanup |
| 17:40.40 | Pneumatus | ~seen Parnic |
| 17:40.42 | purl | parnic is currently on #wowace (1d 19h 1m 27s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 1d 16h 35m 28s, last said: 'is there a good place for feature requests to the site itself?'. |
| 17:45.36 | RaydenU | i should make a list of all the heroic dungeons and score them based on how much good feral loot there is |
| 17:45.42 | RaydenU | right now gundrak and drak'tharon seem to be winning |
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| 18:00.15 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r17 / (2 files in 1 directory): remove some degug code |
| 18:05.40 | fewyn | http://www.digitalkore.net/WoWScrnShot_011809_130347.jpg anyone know what that channel roster box is from? |
| 18:06.50 | Gnarfoz | standard UI? |
| 18:06.55 | fewyn | is it? |
| 18:06.55 | robotusch | fewyn, standard UI |
| 18:07.02 | robotusch | it's a voice channel thing |
| 18:07.20 | fewyn | hahaha |
| 18:07.23 | fewyn | he was freaking out |
| 18:07.26 | fewyn | no idea what it was |
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| 18:08.22 | fewyn | thanks |
| 18:11.31 | Zhinjio | ckknight: ping |
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| 18:24.15 | Zhinjio | Antiarc: ping |
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| 18:51.47 | Zhinjio | oooo |
| 18:51.57 | Zhinjio | now thats the first good idea I've had for an addon in awhile. |
| 18:52.41 | Zhinjio | ponders. |
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| 18:59.39 | Nizomi | hm |
| 19:00.54 | Nizomi | why does it keep erroring http://www.wowace.com/paste/164/ |
| 19:01.11 | Zhinjio | this is your own addon? |
| 19:01.26 | Zhinjio | or someone else's? |
| 19:02.02 | Nizomi | my |
| 19:02.20 | Zhinjio | you need to make sure that callbackhandler is loaded before Ace3 |
| 19:02.26 | Zhinjio | and further: that libstub is loaded first |
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| 19:02.35 | Nizomi | ElizaAceAddon = LibStub( "AceAddon-3.0" ):NewAddon("ElizaAceAddon", "AceConsole-3.0", "CallbackHandler-1.0", "AceEvent-3.0",) |
| 19:02.48 | Zhinjio | no, in your TOC or embeds.cml |
| 19:02.49 | Zhinjio | xml |
| 19:02.54 | Zhinjio | I mean |
| 19:02.58 | Nizomi | ah k |
| 19:03.20 | Zhinjio | libstub first, then CBH, then anything else |
| 19:03.55 | Nizomi | and whats wrong with GFAceAddon = LibStub( "AceAddon-3.0" ):NewAddon("GFAceAddon", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0","CallbackHandler-1.0") |
| 19:04.00 | Nizomi | it says unexpected symbol near ) |
| 19:04.43 | Nizomi | oh |
| 19:04.44 | Nizomi | wrong one |
| 19:04.52 | nevcairiel | well first off, CallbackHandler cannot be embeded |
| 19:05.02 | nevcairiel | in your first paste, you had a exta "," at the end |
| 19:06.18 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r149 / (2 files in 1 directory): - loot timer fix |
| 19:06.34 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.12 * r150 : Tagging as 2.2.12 |
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| 19:07.58 | Gnarfoz | <Zhinjio> now thats the first good idea I've had for an addon in awhile. <-- what is? |
| 19:09.46 | Nizomi | local pos = string.find( "testing this", " " ) <- shouldn't this return a numeric value? |
| 19:09.48 | Zhinjio | a generic Broker_Launcher ... it lets you create custom launchers for other addons what don't have them. |
| 19:09.52 | Zhinjio | is that a stupid idea? |
| 19:10.04 | Zhinjio | I have at least 3 right now, and I'm barely into my UI. |
| 19:10.26 | Zhinjio | plus: it would let me get rid of Fubar2Broker, since I can just force launch their configs with their /-commands |
| 19:11.23 | Zhinjio | you'd basically configure: icon, text, (label becomes BL:<text>) and ... hmm, the command that executes |
| 19:11.34 | Nizomi | ah w/e |
| 19:11.40 | Nizomi | it returned nil because there were no spaces :D |
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| 19:11.56 | Zhinjio | nevcairiel, Gnarfoz ... anyon else, what do you think? Is that worth doing? |
| 19:12.03 | Zhinjio | its simple enough toc ode. |
| 19:12.05 | Zhinjio | er, to code. |
| 19:12.29 | Zhinjio | I may do it anyway, just for myself. |
| 19:12.41 | nevcairiel | i guess some people might like it |
| 19:12.56 | nevcairiel | I'm not that much into clicking launchers myself |
| 19:15.06 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 12bda37 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] give font strings shadows. I might make this configurable later. |
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| 19:18.13 | gix | nice <3 |
| 19:18.19 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 6f68706 Modules/DogTagTexts/DogTagTexts.lua: [+1 commit] Fix example DogTag CurMP => MP |
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| 19:23.43 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess * r151 / (2 files in 1 directory): - loot timer fix |
| 19:24.12 | Repo | 10ka_raid-tracker: 03Celess 04v2.2.13 * r152 : Tagging as 2.2.13 |
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| 19:27.41 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * c8d0f00 Modules/DogTagTexts/DogTagTexts.lua: [+1 commit] make dogtag text box width = 'full' (thanks to Vangual for pointing it out) |
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| 19:32.44 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r65 / (3 files in 1 directory): - Add PT3's InstanceLootHeroic |
| 19:35.34 | ckknight | Zhinjio: pong |
| 19:36.06 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I made a ticket, I think |
| 19:36.12 | ckknight | what about? |
| 19:36.12 | Zhinjio | for the one thing I was thinking |
| 19:36.15 | Zhinjio | um. |
| 19:36.16 | Zhinjio | uh... |
| 19:37.00 | Zhinjio | thinks. |
| 19:37.11 | Zhinjio | oh |
| 19:37.24 | Zhinjio | blankspace should also allow color by class/hostility |
| 19:37.47 | Zhinjio | I use blankspace for a "label" line |
| 19:37.58 | Zhinjio | since I like the health bar to be a specific health-related color |
| 19:38.05 | Zhinjio | I'd rather have the blank space class colored |
| 19:38.07 | Zhinjio | anyway |
| 19:38.10 | Zhinjio | I made a ticket |
| 19:38.18 | Zhinjio | if wowace was actually up, you'd be able to tell that. |
| 19:38.57 | Zhinjio | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/113-blank-space-coloring-options-same-as-other-bars/ |
| 19:41.48 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/launcher/. Broker_Launcher. Zhinjio (Manager/Author). Approved by Zhinjio. |
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| 19:44.26 | ckknight | Zhinjio: only health has those |
| 19:44.27 | ckknight | :P |
| 19:44.32 | ckknight | I'd have to revamp the color system |
| 19:44.36 | ckknight | which would be hella complex |
| 19:44.42 | ckknight | not 100% sure how I want to handle that |
| 19:46.15 | Fisker- | why so :P? |
| 19:46.16 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 19:46.19 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck me this case is cool but expensive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119176 |
| 19:46.35 | Fisker- | fucks Arrowmaster |
| 19:47.00 | Arrowmaster | oh shit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119178 |
| 19:48.49 | Zhinjio | if they had one with inverted motherboard, I'd be all over it |
| 19:49.12 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r18 core.lua: bugfix when player level up |
| 19:49.19 | Fisker- | http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2008/07/23/lian-li-pc-x2000/1 <-clearly superior Arrowmaster |
| 19:49.58 | Chosi | ugly piece of shit |
| 19:50.00 | Chosi | case |
| 19:50.30 | Arrowmaster | http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/full-tower-case,2105.html |
| 19:50.34 | Arrowmaster | whos copying who |
| 19:50.40 | Chosi | <3 my silverstone |
| 19:51.04 | Fisker- | fuck you Chosi |
| 19:51.05 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 19:51.24 | Fisker- | Arrowmaster ABS is copying Lian-LI |
| 19:51.52 | Fisker- | They just import shit and rebrand etc. |
| 19:52.46 | Chosi | http://www.silverstonetek.com/products/p_photo.php?pno=kl02&area=usa |
| 19:52.50 | Chosi | i just love it |
| 19:53.00 | Chosi | sad that the product name "KLO" stands for "loo" in german :p |
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| 19:53.51 | Arrowmaster | ive got one of the original coolermaster stackers which is why im looking at the new ones for my new pc |
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| 19:54.46 | Fisker- | The Lian Li is the best case evar |
| 19:55.00 | Arrowmaster | is that one $600 too? |
| 19:55.22 | Arrowmaster | and i havent even seen that lian li for sale anywhere but ive seen the abs one |
| 19:55.40 | Fisker- | They're the same |
| 19:55.43 | Fisker- | Just rebranded |
| 19:56.07 | ulic | newegg has Lian Li cases. |
| 19:56.11 | Fisker- | http://lian-li.com/v2/en/where/where.php#a2 |
| 19:58.22 | Fisker- | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112187 <-the smaller case is on newegg |
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| 20:01.16 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * a71d603 / (21 files in 9 directories): [+23 commits] (19 truncated) |
| 20:01.19 | Repo | a71d603: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/pitbull4/mainline.git |
| 20:01.21 | Repo | 152c163: Greatly simplified sound system; Made LibSharedMedia completely optional |
| 20:01.24 | Repo | c8d0f00: make dogtag text box width = 'full' (thanks to Vangual for pointing it out) |
| 20:01.26 | Repo | 6f68706: Fix example DogTag CurMP => MP |
| 20:05.44 | waallen | is a hide/show aura on a unitframe basis option going to be implemeted later on in PB4? |
| 20:06.26 | Vangual | it's on layout basis, up to you to what units you assign which layout set? |
| 20:06.45 | waallen | oh, I didn't see it that way |
| 20:07.41 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r27 / (3 files in 1 directory): More tests, more refactoring, more mocks |
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| 20:08.53 | Repo | 10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow * r19 Debuffs.lua: - fix (sort of) improved scorch/winter's chill number |
| 20:10.00 | Repo | 10debuff-enough: 03Nickodemus_wow 041.0.3 * r20 : Tagging as 1.0.3 |
| 20:10.04 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r734 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:10.07 | Repo | -- Upgrade "Add Button" for Bar options to select from all buttons now that it is scrollable. |
| 20:10.08 | Repo | -- Fix Button Moving issues in Bar options. |
| 20:10.29 | Fisker- | kisses ckknight |
| 20:10.36 | ckknight | no, Fisker- |
| 20:10.56 | Fisker- | takes pictar |
| 20:10.58 | Fisker- | you cannot deny it |
| 20:11.11 | ckknight | it's shooped |
| 20:11.29 | Pneumatus | anyone know if theres a way in recount to show how much damage a player absorbed? |
| 20:13.07 | quiescens | doubt it |
| 20:13.55 | Pneumatus | i'm basically disc for nothing atm while we're using a bear tank on sartharion :< |
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| 20:18.46 | selckin | healing meters should be illegal |
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| 20:22.23 | ckknight | why, selckin? |
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| 20:23.07 | selckin | it's a really bad way to mesure healing 'perforamnce' |
| 20:23.21 | Chosi | well |
| 20:23.23 | Chosi | don't think so |
| 20:23.26 | selckin | and unless people have played a healer themself in a raid, tis very had to explain to them |
| 20:23.31 | Chosi | of course. some fags may heal early |
| 20:23.38 | ckknight | or overheal |
| 20:23.47 | Chosi | overheal can be displayed separately |
| 20:23.53 | Chosi | so that's not the problem |
| 20:23.58 | selckin | timing and right person is way more important |
| 20:24.00 | Vangual | usually it's the people interpreting the healing meters that suck, the stats themselves CAN be useful to find some issues |
| 20:24.04 | Chosi | mana efficient healing can't be considered |
| 20:24.11 | Chosi | yeah |
| 20:24.18 | Chosi | the timing issues. |
| 20:24.33 | Chosi | overheal should be punsished |
| 20:24.34 | Chosi | :) |
| 20:24.36 | Chosi | -s |
| 20:24.40 | Chosi | with damage |
| 20:24.40 | Chosi | lol |
| 20:24.50 | selckin | no |
| 20:24.51 | Zhinjio | well, some overheal is very very hard to avoid. |
| 20:24.53 | selckin | overhealing is good |
| 20:24.53 | Zhinjio | but yeah |
| 20:24.57 | quiescens | yeah, how dare you cast a heal at the same time as someone else |
| 20:25.08 | selckin | just try and keep a tank alive in say sunwell wtihout massive overhealing |
| 20:25.09 | Chosi | yeah right. |
| 20:26.11 | selckin | should try to keep it to a minimum, but just saying someone is a bad healer because of overhealing is wrong. |
| 20:26.25 | ckknight | what would be kinda cool is if overheal added extra health to the healee that deteriorated very fast (like, 3 seconds and it's all gone) |
| 20:26.26 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 20:26.41 | nevcairiel | some classes have talents like that |
| 20:26.47 | nevcairiel | or similar, anyway |
| 20:26.51 | ckknight | oh? |
| 20:26.56 | quiescens | nah |
| 20:27.01 | nevcairiel | not exactly like that |
| 20:27.05 | Vangual | hot procs |
| 20:27.26 | quiescens | they have like procs that cause damage shields etc |
| 20:27.28 | Repo | 10tank-points: 03Whitetooth * r100 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Release 2.8.2 |
| 20:27.29 | nevcairiel | extra health would be kinda too op |
| 20:27.38 | Vangual | earthliving proc etc |
| 20:27.43 | ulic | ckknight & Vangual: Just checked out pb4, it's coming along nicely, I like what I see so far. Good job! |
| 20:27.55 | ckknight | ulic: thank Shefki as well, he did all the auras |
| 20:27.57 | Vangual | points to ckk |
| 20:28.03 | ulic | well I hadn' |
| 20:28.06 | Vangual | you don't see any of my doing just yet :P |
| 20:28.06 | ulic | whoop |
| 20:28.08 | ckknight | yea, Vangual's stuff hasn't gone in yet, but will soon |
| 20:28.22 | selckin | you have to always heal potential damage, since you can't reactively heal and keep the tank alive (well maybe now you can, everything is easy) |
| 20:28.28 | selckin | so you'll have overhealing |
| 20:28.28 | ulic | hadn't seen Shefki talking, so assumed he wasn't watching, but yea definetly. |
| 20:28.46 | quiescens | eh |
| 20:28.53 | Vangual | shefki did some great work on the auras. |
| 20:29.04 | selckin | and good timed heals on specials that is keeping people alive is way more impotant, then the aoe healing topping of the raid and being top on the meter |
| 20:29.11 | quiescens | even if you can reactively heal for the most part |
| 20:29.47 | quiescens | someone else could heal at the same time and one of you overheal |
| 20:30.43 | Groktar | pokes wowace.com |
| 20:30.43 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r28 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:30.43 | Repo | Usual tweaks to get everything working both in and out of WoW |
| 20:31.02 | Groktar | nevcairiel? |
| 20:31.27 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 20:31.47 | Groktar | is there a way to make bar1 only visible when possessing/vehicle? |
| 20:31.57 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 20:32.03 | nevcairiel | use a custom visibility thing |
| 20:32.21 | nevcairiel | [bonusbar:5]show;hide |
| 20:33.11 | Groktar | what does bonusbar: mean? |
| 20:34.15 | EthanCentaurai | Parnic: ping |
| 20:34.21 | Groktar | works perfectly |
| 20:34.22 | Groktar | ty |
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| 20:36.09 | Zhinjio | does anyone else have trouble with kgpanels visibility stuff? |
| 20:36.13 | Zhinjio | or event handling |
| 20:36.17 | Zhinjio | scripting I mean |
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| 20:38.12 | Ackis | Zhinjio!!!!! |
| 20:38.13 | Ackis | dude |
| 20:38.15 | Ackis | guess what man? |
| 20:38.22 | Zhinjio | I can't possibly imagine |
| 20:38.26 | Ackis | I pet my first ferrets today |
| 20:38.32 | Zhinjio | woot! |
| 20:38.33 | Ackis | we were at the pet store and this guy came in with two of them |
| 20:38.37 | Zhinjio | ferrets are awesome. |
| 20:38.52 | Ackis | they looked wonderful, playful and mischevious |
| 20:39.00 | Ackis | (we ended up getting 4 hamsters lol) |
| 20:39.05 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander * r142 Coconuts.lua: Coconuts: |
| 20:39.08 | Repo | - Fix favorites |
| 20:40.01 | Repo | 10chinon: 03Sidoine * r71 EcranOptions.lua: Chinon: |
| 20:40.03 | Repo | -text that was not localized |
| 20:40.17 | Zhinjio | Ferrets are not for everyone. |
| 20:40.21 | Bruners | do winfuryz and improved icy talons stack ? |
| 20:40.35 | EthanCentaurai | and they've all been named "Murky" :P |
| 20:40.38 | Zhinjio | but they are fantastic pets if you can get responsible |
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| 20:41.40 | Ackis | EthanCentaurai: crul, gurky, diablo, rattitoue (sp?) |
| 20:41.56 | Groktar | i hate it when the phasing breaks on the bomber quests in icecrown |
| 20:41.59 | EthanCentaurai | ratatouille |
| 20:47.38 | Gnarfoz | <Arrowmaster> ive got one of the original coolermaster stackers which is why im looking at the new ones for my new pc <-- STC-001 rawks! :> |
| 20:47.43 | Gnarfoz | Zeksie: ping |
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| 21:22.41 | ckknight | hey all |
| 21:22.47 | ckknight | I have an important issue regarding wowace/curseforge |
| 21:22.50 | ckknight | I need a lolcat. |
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| 21:23.06 | nevcairiel | another downtime? |
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| 21:23.13 | ckknight | yea, we're switching to Postgres tomorrow |
| 21:23.22 | ckknight | I need to get a lolcat for the announcement |
| 21:23.46 | Zhinjio | ehttp://a4.vox.com/6a00bc07d135d8de9400fa967748940002-500pi |
| 21:24.05 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:24.13 | ckknight | ah: http://icanhascheezburger.com/tag/computer/ |
| 21:24.44 | Zhinjio | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/funny-pictures-lolcat-seeds-kittens-handful.jpg |
| 21:24.53 | ckknight | aw |
| 21:25.34 | Zhinjio | http://www.deepjiveinterests.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/lolcat1.jpg |
| 21:25.35 | ckknight | one day, I'm totally putting up lolcats on our 404 and 403 pages. |
| 21:25.38 | Zhinjio | there are so many |
| 21:25.50 | ckknight | and 500 |
| 21:26.11 | Zhinjio | http://shawn.ocia.net/photos/lolcat1.jpg |
| 21:26.23 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:26.36 | Stanzilla | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/funny-pictures-shorn-cat-asks-for-his-fur-back.jpg |
| 21:26.42 | ckknight | might do http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/funny-pictures-kitten-looks-for-bugs-in-your-computer.jpg |
| 21:27.27 | ckknight | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-cat-is-troubleshooting-your-troubles.jpg also good |
| 21:27.31 | Zhinjio | http://sciencetraveler.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/lolcat_what.jpg |
| 21:28.11 | ckknight | that's a good one, Zhinjio |
| 21:28.13 | Ackis | http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/5/5d/AckisLOLCat.jpg |
| 21:28.14 | Ackis | :D |
| 21:28.23 | ckknight | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-pictures-never-trust-a-feline-technician.jpg |
| 21:28.52 | Zhinjio | awesine |
| 21:28.58 | Zhinjio | awesome, too. |
| 21:29.20 | Ackis | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1428796&id=512851685&ref=mf <-- can you see that? |
| 21:30.10 | ckknight | yes |
| 21:30.18 | ckknight | hamsters? |
| 21:30.28 | ckknight | you actually have hamsters? |
| 21:30.34 | Ackis | we just got 4 of them today |
| 21:30.40 | Ackis | gf is putting together the cage |
| 21:31.53 | Stanzilla | so the hamsters can watch you in that cageà |
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| 21:32.10 | Ackis | :P |
| 21:32.21 | ckknight | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/2005560902278146501_rs.jpg |
| 21:32.43 | Zhinjio | http://news.cnet.com/i/ne/p/2007/lolcat_500x333.jpg |
| 21:32.59 | ckknight | lol |
| 21:33.13 | Pneumatus | omg, i love Quartz |
| 21:33.19 | Pneumatus | why was i not using it before now :o |
| 21:33.41 | Zhinjio | http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/04/lolcat.jpg |
| 21:33.45 | Zhinjio | ok, I'm done. |
| 21:34.07 | Pneumatus | he's both inside and outside the quantum box! |
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| 21:34.33 | Zhinjio | does kagaro even come around anymore |
| 21:35.07 | Ackis | i scared him away I think |
| 21:35.32 | Zhinjio | ckknight: |
| 21:35.34 | Zhinjio | oh nm |
| 21:40.36 | NivFreak | hrmm |
| 21:40.52 | NivFreak | so I'm reviewing my 3drakes strat I started working on a few days ago |
| 21:42.02 | NivFreak | does it sound correct that the largest breath you can get from satharion is ~36,750 after tenebron is dead? |
| 21:42.12 | NivFreak | (25man) |
| 21:43.18 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r44 / (8 files in 3 directories): add separate option for heroic raids |
| 21:43.23 | Gnarfoz | in +3d? |
| 21:43.29 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r201 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 25 lines) |
| 21:43.32 | Repo | ** Changes since last release ** |
| 21:43.33 | Repo | 1.4.2 |
| 21:43.36 | Repo | - Chance to be missed diminishing returns now supported |
| 21:43.39 | Repo | - Rating conversion and StatSummary sum now supports avoidance diminishing returns too |
| 21:43.47 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * e7080c4 / (6 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] Allow indicators to be positioned in the same space as bars. This will allow portrait to be placed on the left and clickable. This option is available for all indicators, not just portrait. |
| 21:44.28 | Pneumatus | NivFreak: you can get 42k'ish breaths when both shadrons and vesparons adds are up |
| 21:44.30 | Pneumatus | r |
| 21:44.34 | Pneumatus | in 25man at least |
| 21:44.36 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:44.51 | NivFreak | you have a 50% modifier from shadron, and a 75% modifier from vesperon right? |
| 21:45.03 | Pneumatus | 25/75 |
| 21:45.06 | NivFreak | oh duh |
| 21:45.16 | NivFreak | er, wait huh? |
| 21:45.19 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 21:45.27 | NivFreak | gift of the twilight == 50% |
| 21:45.34 | NivFreak | twilight torment == 75% |
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| 21:45.52 | Daemona | remember you get modifiers from the 2 disciples in the portals two |
| 21:46.05 | NivFreak | that's all I'm talking about |
| 21:46.12 | NivFreak | that's their buffs |
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| 21:46.24 | Daemona | buy yeah 36k-ish sounds correct |
| 21:46.39 | Daemona | s/buy/but |
| 21:46.48 | NivFreak | I can see these crazy ass 75K-ish breaths if you had all 3 drakes and portals up |
| 21:47.04 | NivFreak | but it seems much more reasonable in a realistic situation |
| 21:47.14 | NivFreak | where tenebron is dead before shadron lands (or pretty quick) |
| 21:47.35 | Daemona | then you fail anyway, because more than 2 waves of whelps is pretty much fail anyway ;) |
| 21:47.43 | NivFreak | yep |
| 21:48.03 | NivFreak | in a realistic situation, I can't see anything past 36,750 |
| 21:48.25 | NivFreak | and that's of course without any mitigation |
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| 21:50.04 | Pneumatus | our tank just got 1shotted by a 48k breath, so they can be that high :P |
| 21:50.24 | Daemona | as stated before you failed anyway at that point ;) |
| 21:50.43 | Pneumatus | that was with tenebron down, just shadron and vesparons adds up |
| 21:59.39 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * a20a1b1 / (5 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] raise indicator frame levels to be one above bars. Fixes http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/76-2d-class-portrait-is-hidden-behind-bars/ |
| 22:00.30 | Zhinjio | ckknight: I was going to ask you earlier if you'd consider making a lajuncher for the config |
| 22:00.43 | Nizomi | how does gsub work? |
| 22:00.52 | Zhinjio | but... I'm going to make an addon that does launchers for addons that don't have 'em. so....nm |
| 22:00.54 | ckknight | Zhinjio: yea, Vangual's working on one |
| 22:01.00 | Zhinjio | oh ? |
| 22:01.02 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 22:01.24 | Vangual | yea, it's done, just cleaning up, and figuring out one last thing |
| 22:01.40 | ckknight | Vangual: make sure it works without the LDB lib |
| 22:01.47 | Nizomi | sTemp = string.gsub(rTemp, "<*", " "..thisstr.."?") so if rTemp is ("Hello <* how are you") shouldnt is be ("Hello blub? how are you") |
| 22:01.50 | Nizomi | is thisstr is blub |
| 22:01.51 | ckknight | (that is, it wouldn't have a launcher in that case) |
| 22:02.10 | Industrial | eh |
| 22:02.24 | Industrial | but if its an addon to provide LDB launchers, what is there left without LDB |
| 22:02.45 | Vangual | still figuring out what's the standard on inclusion of LDB and LDBIcon, LDB seems to be hardincluded with some addons |
| 22:03.16 | ckknight | Industrial: /pb4 |
| 22:03.27 | Industrial | eh? |
| 22:03.38 | ckknight | Industrial: wait, what's your uestion? |
| 22:03.41 | Industrial | never mind. |
| 22:03.45 | ckknight | question* |
| 22:03.46 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:03.50 | ckknight | Vangual: yea, I think so |
| 22:03.55 | Industrial | brainfart |
| 22:04.00 | Industrial | im woking on a J2ee site atm |
| 22:04.13 | Industrial | so my mind is all messed up :p |
| 22:04.21 | Vangual | either way, yes it'll be completely optional when there's no LDB or LDBIcon around |
| 22:05.34 | ckknight | okay, good |
| 22:06.03 | Chompers | ah ckk, hey |
| 22:06.04 | Bruners | tomtom likes cpu when moving |
| 22:06.17 | ckknight | I want to keep things provided but optionally removable |
| 22:06.18 | Chompers | i tried put pb4, pretty awesome |
| 22:06.20 | ckknight | Chompers: howdy |
| 22:06.23 | ckknight | cool |
| 22:06.31 | ckknight | any thoughts? |
| 22:06.42 | Chompers | the options system is much better |
| 22:07.16 | Chompers | i found the tag entry box a little too small, decent sized tags get squished making them hard to read |
| 22:07.36 | ckknight | update, Chompers |
| 22:07.46 | Chompers | what else, is the aura module still work in progress? |
| 22:08.06 | Chompers | i really liked the ability to filter buff/debuffs individually |
| 22:08.23 | ckknight | yea, Shefki's still working on Auras |
| 22:08.27 | ckknight | Auras is all his |
| 22:08.44 | Chompers | also, is it possible to distinguish between two debuffs if they're the same |
| 22:09.00 | Chompers | say we have two classes that leave a DoT on the target, do they have seperate IDs? |
| 22:09.07 | Shefki | No |
| 22:09.09 | Chompers | same name, same spec for both classes |
| 22:09.11 | Shefki | All I get is a name. |
| 22:09.12 | ckknight | (you'll have to direct aura-related stuff to him, not me) |
| 22:09.16 | Chompers | heh |
| 22:09.21 | ckknight | ick |
| 22:09.26 | Shefki | Blizzard doesn't give ids. |
| 22:09.31 | Chompers | that's so shit |
| 22:09.35 | Shefki | Unless the icon is different. |
| 22:09.43 | ckknight | pray for GUIDs |
| 22:10.02 | Chompers | i did the wintergrasp boss with 4 dps warriors, 4xdeep wounds going on and off was annoying |
| 22:10.04 | Chompers | aye |
| 22:10.06 | Shefki | ckknight: THey've specifically declined to implement ids/guids for the aura stuff before. :( |
| 22:10.13 | Shefki | Chompers: http://shefki.org/ScreenShot_011809_035528.png |
| 22:10.15 | ckknight | ...cause they're lamers |
| 22:10.22 | ckknight | they've recanted on previous things |
| 22:10.26 | ckknight | like the dual-spec thing |
| 22:10.32 | Shefki | Look at the target frame, note the sizing on the debuffs. |
| 22:11.33 | Chompers | got it |
| 22:11.49 | Chompers | took awhile to load, what quality png is that :O |
| 22:11.49 | Shefki | It's coming. Just trying to work some kinks out on the layouts. |
| 22:12.06 | Shefki | My display is 2560x1600 that's why. |
| 22:12.15 | Chompers | oh! i remembered something else |
| 22:12.33 | Chompers | having an ability to enter position numbers, not just a slider |
| 22:12.43 | Chompers | for those anal people who need to have things pixel perfect |
| 22:12.47 | Shefki | Click on the box under the slider. |
| 22:12.53 | Shefki | The text one. |
| 22:12.59 | Chompers | ... i didn't even try that |
| 22:13.06 | Shefki | All the sliders can be text entered that way. |
| 22:13.07 | ckknight | cause you're a lamer |
| 22:13.24 | ckknight | abuses Chompers some more |
| 22:13.24 | Chompers | very true |
| 22:13.38 | Zhinjio | ckknight: mind a dogtag question? |
| 22:13.43 | ckknight | shoot |
| 22:13.56 | Zhinjio | [PercentHP:Hide(100)]% |
| 22:14.02 | Zhinjio | how do I get the % sign to hide too? |
| 22:14.21 | Shefki | [PercentHP %]:Hide(100%) |
| 22:14.27 | Zhinjio | ah |
| 22:14.31 | Shefki | Or something like that. |
| 22:14.34 | Chompers | Shefki, prio on debuffs is a possiblity if it's based on name then? |
| 22:14.38 | Shefki | ck will probably correct my syntax. |
| 22:14.40 | ckknight | [PercentHP:Hide(100):Percent] |
| 22:14.52 | Chompers | when tanking i'd love to see sunder armour first |
| 22:15.00 | ckknight | that's the best way |
| 22:15.01 | Chompers | rather than see it jumping all over |
| 22:15.04 | Shefki | Chompers: They are sorted by name. |
| 22:15.11 | ckknight | you could also do [PercentHP '%']:Hide('100%') |
| 22:15.15 | ckknight | ...wait |
| 22:15.16 | Industrial | ckknight: what I still don't like about pitbull configuration is that you use a set size for the total frame width and then give the elements a width depending on that total width/height. |
| 22:15.22 | ckknight | [[PercentHP '%']:Hide('100%')] |
| 22:15.34 | ckknight | Industrial: then PitBull's not for you |
| 22:15.36 | Chompers | shame on you ckk, forgetting your brackets |
| 22:15.58 | Zhinjio | ok, working. thank you |
| 22:16.00 | ckknight | Industrial: I don't see the issue with it, really |
| 22:16.00 | Shefki | Which is basically what I suggested, just with more syntax. :) |
| 22:16.07 | Industrial | giving all elements their own absolute height seems its weird :P |
| 22:16.11 | Industrial | er |
| 22:16.26 | ckknight | Industrial: unless you have bars being hidden and displayed frequently, you can arrange it however you want |
| 22:16.29 | Industrial | s/(.+)it's weird/it's weird/ |
| 22:16.30 | Chompers | how exactly are debuffs and such stored in the code, is it just an array or something? |
| 22:16.44 | Shefki | Industrial: This is because layouts can be applies to frames of different sizes. |
| 22:16.54 | Shefki | Absolute sizes don't work very well in that context. |
| 22:16.57 | ckknight | Shefki: I also like fluidity |
| 22:17.12 | Shefki | Chompers: They aren't stored. |
| 22:17.50 | Industrial | but what if I always want my power bar to be 5 units high, and play with the health bar height |
| 22:18.06 | Shefki | They're built into an array, then set on frames, then laid out. |
| 22:18.11 | Industrial | thats just the difference, I fuess |
| 22:18.20 | Shefki | Once they're set on the frames the array is no longer valid. |
| 22:19.04 | Shefki | Chompers: If you explain exactly what you want. It would be helpful. |
| 22:19.26 | Chompers | just interested in how it works, that's all |
| 22:19.32 | Industrial | also, Shefki, on your argument on the same layout in different sizes of frames; Isn't that what scaling is/can be used for? |
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| 22:20.00 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: zomg 26" or what is that :D |
| 22:20.02 | ckknight | Industrial: sometimes scaling doesn't work right, you might want the texts to not grow |
| 22:20.12 | ckknight | Industrial: or you might want to just grow the width or just the height |
| 22:20.12 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: 30" |
| 22:20.18 | ckknight | Industrial: and such |
| 22:20.19 | Gnarfoz | phew :O |
| 22:20.24 | Industrial | so give them an absolute size :D! |
| 22:20.28 | Gnarfoz | Zeksie: :( |
| 22:20.40 | EthanCentaurai | ckknight: may I suggest you add the http://www.wowace.com/announcements/downtime-monday/ to the channel topic? I wonder how many people will attempt to logon tomorrow and think "oh noes" |
| 22:20.42 | ckknight | Industrial: your argument is flawed |
| 22:20.46 | Industrial | how so |
| 22:20.50 | ckknight | Industrial: scaling fucks with absolute size |
| 22:20.52 | ckknight | which is the point |
| 22:21.05 | Industrial | hmm, right |
| 22:21.12 | ckknight | EthanCentaurai: there's gonna be a lolcat on the maintenance page. |
| 22:21.19 | ckknight | people will be more like "oh noes. lawl" |
| 22:21.20 | Shefki | Maybe he could do what I did for Auras with bars. |
| 22:21.36 | ckknight | what's that? |
| 22:21.43 | Shefki | Drop down that lets you use relative size or absolute size for bars. |
| 22:21.54 | ckknight | hmm |
| 22:21.55 | ckknight | maybe |
| 22:21.58 | Groktar | has anyone noticed how much snowfall ink costs on the ptr? |
| 22:21.58 | Shefki | Aura can use a width relative to the frame or absolute. |
| 22:22.08 | ckknight | Industrial: file a ticket... |
| 22:22.21 | Chompers | you need emokitty on the frontpage |
| 22:22.34 | ckknight | Chompers: nah, that's my avater |
| 22:22.36 | ckknight | avatar* |
| 22:23.14 | Industrial | ckknight: I just like discussing things. It's not that I NEED to have this changed. It's mostly that the way it works seemed unfamiliar to me and I want to know why it works like that. |
| 22:23.23 | Shefki | http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/114-having-an-option-to-hide-the-cooldown-text-on-buffs/ |
| 22:23.26 | Shefki | #%$#$%%$# |
| 22:23.33 | Shefki | I hate people that open tickets for stuff you can already do. |
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| 22:23.48 | Xinhuan | outdated versions |
| 22:23.57 | ckknight | Shefki: mark as invalid, then |
| 22:24.01 | Vangual | Shefki: i wasn't sure if he accidently means omnicc's texts or so? |
| 22:24.05 | Shefki | Xinhuan: It's been possible since the first Aura module. |
| 22:24.18 | Xinhuan | poor config location then? |
| 22:24.23 | Shefki | Vangual: Don't see how Omni could put texts on my auras. |
| 22:25.07 | Vangual | you're already equiping your cooldown models with the properties to have omnicc ignore it? |
| 22:25.11 | Shefki | Xinhuan: It's under Display the first tab under Aura. |
| 22:25.32 | Shefki | Vangual: Hmm no. OmniCC just looks at cooldown frames? |
| 22:25.53 | Vangual | yep it touches all cooldown models of a certain size that don't explicitely say "hands off" |
| 22:26.23 | Xinhuan | yah omnicc has a template |
| 22:26.26 | Shefki | Hmm. Should I tell them to be handsoff? |
| 22:26.28 | Chompers | No means No |
| 22:26.30 | Stanzilla | .nocooldowncount |
| 22:26.30 | Vangual | i provide an option for that in the totems module, it's some property you need to equip to your cooldowns |
| 22:26.30 | Xinhuan | you can't |
| 22:26.51 | Xinhuan | omnicc has a default hook that hooks on to everything that uses the blizz cooldown model |
| 22:27.06 | Xinhuan | so it works universally on all addons |
| 22:27.10 | Vangual | had to requiest it specifically back for the pb3 version of my module :/ |
| 22:27.16 | ckknight | Chompers: sometimes it means yes |
| 22:27.30 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: what. |
| 22:27.44 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz you didn't know? |
| 22:27.46 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: you're talking BS again, you're losing your touch ;) |
| 22:27.56 | Xinhuan | i'm not |
| 22:28.01 | Xinhuan | go look in omnicc code |
| 22:28.03 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: there is .nocooldowncount or something which does exactly that |
| 22:28.06 | ckknight | yea, Xinhuan's right |
| 22:28.17 | Xinhuan | omnicc isn't cooldowncount |
| 22:28.17 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
| 22:28.23 | Gnarfoz | it's still named like that |
| 22:28.27 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 22:28.30 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:28.31 | Shefki | >.> |
| 22:28.41 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:28.49 | Gnarfoz | also who cares, because CooldownCount DOESN'T obey it, it's a OmniCC thing |
| 22:28.50 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 22:28.57 | Vangual | it was called noomnicc when I initially requested it with tuller but he renamed it later to be named more universally |
| 22:29.10 | Gnarfoz | indeed. |
| 22:29.11 | Industrial | tip: its out of scope of this addon |
| 22:29.15 | Xinhuan | well at least there's an option now |
| 22:29.23 | Gnarfoz | so fucking go look at OmniCC's code :p |
| 22:29.24 | Stanzilla | http://code.google.com/p/tullamods/source/browse/OmniCC/trunk/OmniCC/full.lua#113 |
| 22:29.28 | Stanzilla | there |
| 22:29.34 | Vangual | you'll need to recreate the frame tho to change it |
| 22:30.04 | Vangual | he reads it only when he first takes over the frame |
| 22:30.20 | Repo | 10grid: 03Pastamancer * r1138 / (3 files in 1 directory): Added tooltip for drag tab. |
| 22:30.23 | Gnarfoz | anyway, Xinhuan, BigWigs is not anywhere near top... however many addons OptionlessHouse shows in a 25man bossfight |
| 22:30.23 | Repo | Added option to hide drag tab when unlocked and revert to old dragging behavior. |
| 22:30.24 | Xinhuan | and sif i will bother to go google code, reading code on wowace is already painful enough ;p |
| 22:30.26 | Repo | By Group 5 layouts sort by index and *should* only show your party in a raid or bg. (untested) |
| 22:30.35 | Gnarfoz | Grid however, is... |
| 22:30.39 | Xinhuan | whats your top 5 cpu addons list like |
| 22:30.40 | Pneumatus | pastamancer: added the option to lock the frame with the tooltip also? |
| 22:31.03 | Gnarfoz | I'm currently trying to get an average. Took 43 screenshots in 25man fights today. |
| 22:31.10 | Fisker- | grid is awesome |
| 22:31.12 | Shefki | So I'm guessing I should set .nocooldowncount = true on my aura frames. |
| 22:31.18 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: also eats mah cpu! :P |
| 22:31.29 | Vangual | spiral.noCooldownCount = true |
| 22:31.34 | Xinhuan | Shefki, leave it as an option |
| 22:31.34 | Industrial | Xinhuan: prolly routes omen recount and then nothing :) |
| 22:31.44 | Gnarfoz | because for some goddamn reason, none of the profiling addons averages the CPU/sec value |
| 22:31.53 | Gnarfoz | making shit jump around every second :p |
| 22:31.54 | Xinhuan | and state that the option change will only take effect on a reloadui |
| 22:31.57 | Shefki | Xinhuan: I have an option for my own text. |
| 22:32.34 | pastamancer | Pneumatus: no, ou have to go into the menu to lock it, but you can disable the tab entirely by alt-clicking |
| 22:32.41 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz, i always wanted a cpu profiling addon that draws graphs of cpu usage of each addon ;p |
| 22:32.55 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: LibGraph-2.0 -> win!... not |
| 22:32.57 | Xinhuan | kinda like task manager |
| 22:33.07 | Gnarfoz | I'd think that profiling addon itself would be #1 on its own list ;D |
| 22:33.09 | Xinhuan | Gnarfoz, i didn't write it |
| 22:33.14 | Xinhuan | that lib that is |
| 22:33.17 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: not saying you did |
| 22:33.33 | Nizomi | so |
| 22:33.40 | Fisker- | no u Gnarfoz |
| 22:33.42 | Fisker- | get quad-core |
| 22:33.43 | Nizomi | what license is applied to addons? |
| 22:33.51 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: lol gtfo :p |
| 22:34.13 | Xinhuan | standard "if there is no liscense stated, author has full copyright on it" |
| 22:34.17 | Gnarfoz | Nizomi: whichever the author likes |
| 22:35.38 | Xinhuan | how many of you would be semi-interested in an addon that monitors everything that someone else does |
| 22:35.58 | Gnarfoz | heh, I'd certainly like something like that |
| 22:36.05 | Xinhuan | so that you can view his combat log in a GUI-intuitive way to see his cast rotation |
| 22:36.10 | Xinhuan | and buff gains/losses |
| 22:36.23 | Gnarfoz | however, my next undertaking will probably be to cut down on FPS loss caused by my addons >:( |
| 22:36.23 | Nizomi | Xinhuan: i luv spying on other people xD |
| 22:36.47 | Xinhuan | what i'm worried about though is such an addon would be a memory hog |
| 22:37.05 | Nizomi | my addons already use 55mb ;D |
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| 22:37.18 | Gnarfoz | meaning getting rid of Grid, everything made with Rock apparently (:\), Buffalo (already gone, that was really horrible), Acheron or any other "Death Recorder", Recount (grr), and some other stuff I really rely on :( |
| 22:37.36 | Xinhuan | and displaying it in a intuitive manner is even more difficult |
| 22:37.47 | Nizomi | well going to bed |
| 22:37.47 | Nizomi | gn8 |
| 22:37.56 | Xinhuan | got any ideas Gnarfoz? ;p |
| 22:38.15 | Arrowmaster | any idea why grid is so high? maybe its some 3rd party status modules you use? |
| 22:38.19 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: graphs. big, multi-colored 3d graphs! :P |
| 22:38.32 | Xinhuan | graphs can't show cast rotations ;p |
| 22:38.38 | Xinhuan | over a timeline |
| 22:38.47 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: just plain grid because I was recently hunting a bug that wasn't one and disabled all plugins to make sure it wasn't their fault |
| 22:39.08 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: hm, finally a use for that Mode7 lib by cryect? :D |
| 22:39.24 | Xinhuan | what mode7 lib |
| 22:39.39 | Fisker- | makes out with Gnarfoz |
| 22:39.49 | Gnarfoz | likes it |
| 22:39.50 | Arrowmaster | thats not what mode7 was for |
| 22:40.11 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: obviously not, I'm just trying to throw out the nonsense ideas to make room for actual good ones. :p |
| 22:40.27 | Xinhuan | you remind me of windows7 |
| 22:40.29 | Xinhuan | with mode7 |
| 22:40.47 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 22:40.54 | Gnarfoz | what was it actually called? |
| 22:41.01 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
| 22:41.06 | Gnarfoz | the one he used for the proof-of-concept DungeonCrawler addon |
| 22:41.20 | Xinhuan | never heard of either lib or addon you named |
| 22:41.21 | Gnarfoz | GPSLib + that mode7 thing = DungeonCrawler |
| 22:41.29 | Gnarfoz | ~project dungeon-crawler |
| 22:41.46 | Gnarfoz | gpslib was minimap 0,0 coordinate based instance coordinates |
| 22:41.50 | Gnarfoz | err I'm doin it wrong again. |
| 22:41.54 | Gnarfoz | @roject dungeon-crawler |
| 22:41.56 | Gnarfoz | GAH |
| 22:42.01 | Gnarfoz | @project dungeon-crawler |
| 22:42.02 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/dungeon-crawler/. DungeonCrawler. Game: WoW. Status: Abandoned. (Automatic) Abandoned since out-of-date for 60 days.. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 111 days ago |
| 22:42.20 | Shefki | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/tickets/111-aura-strata-level-are-below-bars/ |
| 22:42.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah it was Mode7-1.0 ^^ |
| 22:42.33 | Shefki | ckknight: That reminds me I need to talk to you about frame levels. |
| 22:42.44 | ckknight | Shefki: make your frame level frame:GetFrameLevel() + 2 |
| 22:42.58 | Shefki | ckknight: Yeah well there's a problem with that. |
| 22:43.02 | Gnarfoz | @project Mode7_1-0 |
| 22:43.03 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'Mode7_1-0' |
| 22:43.09 | Shefki | ckknight: The frame levels are not consistent. |
| 22:43.16 | Gnarfoz | gah... ckknight how would that have been auto-converted? :\ |
| 22:43.28 | ckknight | mode7_1-0? |
| 22:43.32 | Shefki | ckknight: Party frames are one level higher than singletons. |
| 22:43.34 | ckknight | do a search |
| 22:43.35 | Gnarfoz | Mode7-1.0 |
| 22:43.42 | Gnarfoz | search doesn't turn up abandoned projects |
| 22:43.51 | ckknight | search /abandoned-projects/ |
| 22:44.01 | ckknight | Shefki: yea, though that's kind of arbitrary, though |
| 22:44.01 | Shefki | ckknight: If you can do something to bump the singletons one level up to make everything align I can consistently put things at the right level. |
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| 22:44.04 | Xinhuan | dungeon-crawler seems abandoned to me |
| 22:44.06 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 22:44.10 | Xinhuan | and it turne up |
| 22:44.12 | ckknight | Shefki: don't hardcode levels. |
| 22:44.19 | ckknight | Shefki: do additive levels |
| 22:44.31 | ckknight | frame:GetFrameLevel() + 2 should be your frame level, just about |
| 22:44.31 | Shefki | ckknight: Yeah but the problem is if I do: |
| 22:44.39 | Shefki | +2 then that works fine on singletons. |
| 22:44.44 | Shefki | But it screws up on party frames. |
| 22:44.56 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: obviously they're abandoned - did you see Cryect around recently? |
| 22:45.00 | Shefki | On party frames the group header consumes a level. |
| 22:45.00 | ckknight | Shefki: how? |
| 22:45.04 | Shefki | On singletons it does not. |
| 22:45.05 | ckknight | so? |
| 22:45.10 | ckknight | that's irrelevant |
| 22:45.12 | Xinhuan | i saw him make a commit to recount2 this week |
| 22:45.14 | Shefki | Indicators are at the same level on both. |
| 22:45.19 | Xinhuan | kinda odd |
| 22:45.20 | ckknight | not anymore |
| 22:45.27 | Shefki | ckknight: You fixed that? |
| 22:45.28 | ckknight | yes |
| 22:45.38 | ckknight | they're set to :GetFrameLevel() + 2 |
| 22:45.40 | Shefki | Because I should be above bars but below indicators. |
| 22:45.45 | ckknight | hmm |
| 22:45.48 | Zhinjio | anyone else use InTheBuff? |
| 22:45.50 | ckknight | okay, I can bump those up to +3, then |
| 22:46.10 | Shefki | Most of the indicators wouldn't completely block an aura and are fine. |
| 22:46.24 | Zhinjio | or know anything about whether "kyth" can write quality addons? |
| 22:46.52 | Arrowmaster | whos "kyth" |
| 22:47.42 | Zhinjio | I don't know. its hosted on wowi. so *shrug* |
| 22:47.51 | Zhinjio | she or he is the author |
| 22:47.58 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 42d383c / (4 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] make frame levels of indicators be +3 instead of +2 from frame. |
| 22:48.09 | ckknight | Shefki: k |
| 22:48.22 | ckknight | Shefki: do negative frame levels work? |
| 22:48.41 | Shefki | Hmm no idea, never tried negative. |
| 22:48.50 | Arrowmaster | they should |
| 22:49.11 | ckknight | apparently not, Arrowmaster |
| 22:49.28 | ckknight | 0 works, though |
| 22:49.31 | Fisker- | watch out! |
| 22:49.36 | ckknight | Shefki: I'm gonna make group headers framelevel 0 |
| 22:49.46 | ckknight | so that all unit frames have framelevel 1 |
| 22:49.55 | Shefki | ckknight: That'll make everything much more consistent. |
| 22:50.14 | ckknight | still use additive, though, in case I change it |
| 22:50.20 | ckknight | or make it a user-defined option (likely) |
| 22:50.42 | Shefki | --control:SetFrameLevel(control:GetParent():GetFrameLevel() + 2) |
| 22:50.53 | Shefki | ^ That's what I had with a comment to talk to you about standardizing the levels. |
| 22:50.55 | Chosi | is there some addon that evaluates items based on the lootrank score? |
| 22:50.57 | ckknight | k |
| 22:51.16 | Chosi | or something more specific that ratingbuster |
| 22:51.47 | Shefki | But I ran into the issue with being on the same level as the indicators and that made things look wrong so I just set it aside. |
| 22:54.04 | Shefki | ckknight: Make a system like there is for bar positioning for level positioning. |
| 22:54.35 | ckknight | but then each frame would have its own level? |
| 22:54.48 | Shefki | Just make a Frame Levels pane. |
| 22:54.51 | Shefki | And make it global |
| 22:56.24 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * f7a458c Main.lua: [+1 commit] make group headers a framelevel higher than unit frames so that all unit frames have a consistent framelevel. |
| 22:56.34 | ckknight | Shefki: what purpose does that serve? |
| 22:56.47 | Gnarfoz | Chosi: Pawn |
| 22:57.04 | Zhinjio | frame levels would apply to all layouts, yes? |
| 22:57.27 | Shefki | ckknight: Just lets everyone configure the frame levels more easily than putting options all over the place for it. |
| 22:57.28 | Zhinjio | how many do you really need? bars, text, indicators.... |
| 22:57.41 | Zhinjio | background |
| 22:57.43 | Zhinjio | border |
| 22:57.57 | ckknight | Shefki: my plan was to have it so the user can set the global framestrata/framelevel for all unit frames |
| 22:58.14 | ckknight | rather than on a per-control basis |
| 22:58.15 | Zhinjio | oh, you don't mean for the individual elements |
| 22:58.16 | Zhinjio | ok |
| 22:58.17 | Shefki | And then just have everything else shift up or down witht he frame? |
| 22:58.18 | Zhinjio | nevermind |
| 22:58.22 | ckknight | yes |
| 22:58.26 | Shefki | That works. |
| 22:59.31 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander * r57 Broker_RecZone.lua: Broker_RecZone: |
| 22:59.33 | Repo | - Minor bug fix |
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| 23:01.59 | Repo | 10broker_reczone: 03LordFarlander 043.0.58-beta * r58 : Tagging as 3.0.58-beta |
| 23:02.35 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.6.143-beta * r143 : Tagging as 2.6.143-beta |
| 23:03.29 | RaydenU | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37642 <-- how good for ret paly? |
| 23:04.26 | ckknight | Shefki: I think for PitBull4 I might do two rune modules |
| 23:04.28 | ckknight | one as a bar |
| 23:04.31 | ckknight | one as an indicator |
| 23:04.39 | ckknight | well, the bar one would be 6 bars, really |
| 23:04.52 | ckknight | least that's what I'm thinking right now... |
| 23:05.03 | Shefki | ckknight: Well I was thinking about writing a bar one yeah. |
| 23:05.29 | ckknight | I'll have to make a custom_status_bar module type |
| 23:07.56 | Bruners | RaydenU: half decent, strength is still prefered |
| 23:08.09 | RaydenU | ret paly has offered to pass to my feral druid'ness |
| 23:08.12 | RaydenU | we also have a rogue |
| 23:08.14 | RaydenU | but i think he has |
| 23:08.26 | Bruners | depends on your expertise rating |
| 23:08.40 | Bruners | the blue ring with str/crit is better if you are already capped |
| 23:09.16 | RaydenU | how much for feral druid? |
| 23:09.55 | Bruners | for feral i would choose that ring |
| 23:10.02 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 06vangual 07master * 70bc438 / (13 files in 8 directories): [+8 commits] (4 truncated) |
| 23:10.04 | Repo | 70bc438: Ensure correct framelevel |
| 23:10.07 | Repo | 56ce1e0: Merge branch 'master' of git@git.wowace.com:wow/pitbull4/mainline.git |
| 23:10.09 | Repo | f7a458c: make group headers a framelevel higher than unit frames so that all unit frames have a consistent framelevel. |
| 23:10.10 | Chosi | Gnarfoz: does it use class-individual ratings for values? |
| 23:10.12 | Repo | 42d383c: make frame levels of indicators be +3 instead of +2 from frame. |
| 23:10.16 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander * r21 BrokerCalendar.lua: Calendar_Broker: |
| 23:10.20 | Repo | - Fix event length on current events |
| 23:10.30 | Gnarfoz | Chosi: it uses whatever strings you feed it |
| 23:11.16 | Zhinjio | I get the same pitbull4 blocked from an action when I right click to set focus that I did in pb3 |
| 23:11.18 | Gnarfoz | i.e. it takes certain "pawn value strings" (which are basically stat weightings, or equivalence points) |
| 23:11.25 | ckknight | Zhinjio: wait until 3.0.8 |
| 23:11.26 | Shefki | Zhinjio: Blizzard bug. |
| 23:11.27 | Arrowmaster | Zhinjio: blizzard bug |
| 23:11.33 | Zhinjio | k |
| 23:11.44 | ckknight | man, I hope that's Tuesday |
| 23:12.28 | Vangual | my tauren is riding a chocobo finally, surely that means it's ready to be deployed ;) |
| 23:13.31 | Chosi | Gnarfoz: ah nice |
| 23:13.31 | RaydenU | heh |
| 23:13.39 | RaydenU | i need to work on that Vangual |
| 23:13.44 | Gnarfoz | Chosi: I've never used it, though. :p |
| 23:14.51 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 5cceb6e Modules/Aura (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 23:14.53 | Repo | 5cceb6e: Set the frame level for auras. |
| 23:14.56 | Repo | 5232251: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.wowace.com/wow/pitbull4/mainline |
| 23:14.58 | Repo | f8489b5: Only show sample weapon buffs when they are enabled for the frame. |
| 23:19.08 | Arrowmaster | damn you guys, learn to fetch then rebase! |
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| 23:20.04 | ckknight | Arrowmaster is right... |
| 23:20.26 | Repo | 10calendar_broker: 03LordFarlander 043.0.22-beta * r22 : Tagging as 3.0.22-beta |
| 23:20.51 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: outside of making commit logs look nicer, does it do anything? |
| 23:20.52 | jnwhiteh | what does that do differently in this case? |
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| 23:22.44 | Arrowmaster | removes all the merge commits that happen every time one of them makes a commit after the other did |
| 23:22.56 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 23:22.56 | Arrowmaster | git pull --rebase origin master |
| 23:23.10 | jnwhiteh | when collaborating that's better to do that a straight git pull? |
| 23:23.21 | Shefki | And herein lies my issue with git. |
| 23:23.32 | Shefki | Why does it take all that to do what git pull should reasonably do by default. |
| 23:23.39 | Vangual | I need to reread the rebase help, i do remember some fat warning about dataloss in it in some cicumstances |
| 23:23.46 | Arrowmaster | because you should never rebase public commits |
| 23:24.08 | Arrowmaster | unless people know that branch may be rewound |
| 23:24.26 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: anywhere in particular I can read more about that, I've never run into issues like this but like to keep up on how to use my scm :P |
| 23:24.39 | Arrowmaster | and since it is impossible to know in a DVCS what is public and what is still private automaticly it cannot do that by default |
| 23:25.31 | Shefki | Using git for an addon is still like using a space shuttle to get from Florida to Texas. |
| 23:25.42 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: ... not really |
| 23:25.49 | jnwhiteh | any code should be versioned |
| 23:25.53 | jnwhiteh | and why would i use svn instead of git? |
| 23:25.57 | jnwhiteh | especially in this case |
| 23:26.05 | thul | VRAKULVANGUAL! KILL! |
| 23:26.10 | thul | (i blame tourettes) |
| 23:26.11 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Becuase you don't need any of the features of git that SVN doesn't have. |
| 23:26.13 | ckknight | Shefki: I like Vangual having his own repo |
| 23:26.15 | jnwhiteh | svnadmin create /tmp/blah.svn; svn checkout file:///tmp/blah.svn; then import |
| 23:26.20 | jnwhiteh | versus git init |
| 23:26.23 | jnwhiteh | why would I go through that? |
| 23:26.36 | ckknight | the distributed nature of git is what I like most |
| 23:26.40 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 23:26.46 | ckknight | rather than everyone using a single repo |
| 23:26.50 | ckknight | _maybe_ with branches |
| 23:26.51 | ckknight | but probably not |
| 23:26.54 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Uncommon actions should be hard, common actions should be easy. |
| 23:26.58 | Shefki | git is entirely backwards. |
| 23:27.02 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: and the common actions in git are trivial |
| 23:27.03 | jnwhiteh | 100% |
| 23:27.06 | Fisker- | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:27.09 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: --rebase is mentioned in man git-pull, theres talk of it at a lot of other places too |
| 23:27.18 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: thanks, i'll look at it later |
| 23:27.21 | Repo | 10broker_sysmon: 03Rabbit * r48 / (3 files in 1 directory): Simplify code a bit, get rid of AceTimer-3.0. |
| 23:27.25 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: rebase in general i mean |
| 23:27.37 | vhaarr | Daemona: I added tooltips to the sysmons |
| 23:27.44 | vhaarr | forgot to note that in the commit message |
| 23:27.45 | jnwhiteh | also, what Arrowmaster is talking about is something very specific |
| 23:27.47 | Daemona | \o/ |
| 23:27.48 | jnwhiteh | nothing _BAD_ comes from it |
| 23:27.59 | jnwhiteh | it just makes your local commits/merges public |
| 23:28.02 | jnwhiteh | when you may not want them to be |
| 23:28.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah its just annoying when its not needed |
| 23:28.05 | jnwhiteh | that's hardly an actual issue |
| 23:28.10 | jnwhiteh | and for YOU |
| 23:28.15 | jnwhiteh | its probably good because you know what you did |
| 23:28.30 | jnwhiteh | people who say git are complicated confuse me |
| 23:28.43 | Shefki | Because it is. |
| 23:28.47 | Arrowmaster | now when you use public topic branches and stuff the merge commits will have to be there and thats a good thing |
| 23:28.55 | jnwhiteh | don't say it like that's the truth |
| 23:28.59 | jnwhiteh | I happen to disagree |
| 23:28.59 | Shefki | Unnecessarily so for most people. |
| 23:29.06 | jnwhiteh | I think svn is inherently more complicated than git is |
| 23:29.15 | Shefki | No it isn't. |
| 23:29.19 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 23:29.24 | jnwhiteh | you are not speaking in facts |
| 23:29.28 | jnwhiteh | stop pretending that you are |
| 23:29.30 | jnwhiteh | that is your opinion |
| 23:29.33 | jnwhiteh | and I happen to disagree |
| 23:29.37 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: How is SVN more complicated? |
| 23:29.42 | Arrowmaster | have you seen the new http://book.git-scm.com/ ? |
| 23:29.43 | jnwhiteh | because you have to have a server |
| 23:29.49 | jnwhiteh | or a local file "repo" |
| 23:29.51 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: No you don't. |
| 23:29.51 | jnwhiteh | git doesn't need shit |
| 23:29.56 | jnwhiteh | yes you do |
| 23:29.59 | jnwhiteh | there has to be a central point |
| 23:30.01 | jnwhiteh | there is no "local" |
| 23:30.04 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: http://book.git-scm.com/4_rebasing.html |
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| 23:30.11 | Shefki | local doesn't require a server. |
| 23:30.13 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 23:30.18 | Shefki | And having a server doesn't make it more complicated. |
| 23:30.19 | Arrowmaster | for svn it does too |
| 23:30.20 | jnwhiteh | i said server or local file repo |
| 23:30.25 | jnwhiteh | and they're teh same |
| 23:30.27 | jnwhiteh | you have a central point |
| 23:30.29 | jnwhiteh | and a working copy |
| 23:30.35 | Shefki | You said local after I said what I said. |
| 23:30.42 | jnwhiteh | not according to my timestamps. |
| 23:30.46 | Shefki | Then got up my ass becuase I didn't account for your local comment that you typed after I said what I said. |
| 23:30.48 | jnwhiteh | arrow master spoke and Pneumatus_ joined in between |
| 23:30.48 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 23:30.55 | jnwhiteh | either way |
| 23:31.06 | jnwhiteh | branching in svn is stupid and complicated |
| 23:31.10 | jnwhiteh | merging is painful and terrible. |
| 23:31.18 | jnwhiteh | you have to have a server or local repo |
| 23:31.25 | jnwhiteh | all of these make it more complicated from my perspective |
| 23:31.31 | Arrowmaster | rebasing is also an extremely powerful tool thats not found in many scm's |
| 23:31.35 | Shefki | Seriously, most people writing addons never deal with any of that crap. |
| 23:31.38 | Shefki | They edit a file and commit. |
| 23:31.41 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 23:31.44 | jnwhiteh | and that's 100% trivial with git |
| 23:31.50 | Arrowmaster | most people writing addons dont even use an scm |
| 23:31.50 | jnwhiteh | so stop saying everything is so difficult |
| 23:32.20 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: Using git is more difficult when it comes to the normal use case that we have around here. |
| 23:32.31 | jnwhiteh | I think most of the developers here would disagree with you |
| 23:32.33 | jnwhiteh | completely |
| 23:32.38 | jnwhiteh | git pull; git commit -a |
| 23:32.39 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: The handful of people that want local branches or other oddities are exceptions. |
| 23:32.43 | jnwhiteh | how is that more difficult than svn update; svn commit |
| 23:32.47 | Fisker- | stalks jnwhiteh |
| 23:32.47 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: And I just got bitched out for doing that. |
| 23:32.52 | jnwhiteh | no you didn['t. |
| 23:32.55 | jnwhiteh | at all |
| 23:32.55 | ckknight | yea, he did |
| 23:32.58 | jnwhiteh | stop being so fucking defensive |
| 23:32.59 | jnwhiteh | and calm down |
| 23:33.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster's bitched him out twice |
| 23:33.11 | ckknight | (that I've seen) |
| 23:33.13 | jnwhiteh | if that was "bitching out" I'd hate to see Arrowmaster really upset |
| 23:33.24 | Arrowmaster | i was just bitching at both of them in general |
| 23:33.38 | jnwhiteh | idd |
| 23:33.39 | Vangual | i've found the git-gui to be very nice for git newbie's with half a brain also. (If I could just get it to not translate EVERYTHING into german, argh) |
| 23:33.58 | Shefki | If you really think git is easier when a common operation such as fetching the changes from the server takes: git pull --rebase origin master |
| 23:34.01 | ckknight | Git Heil? |
| 23:34.04 | Shefki | Everytime. You're insane. |
| 23:34.08 | Arrowmaster | Vangual: set a windows env var named LANG to en_US |
| 23:34.09 | Vangual | especially the tree view is absolutely priceless in understanding what's going on |
| 23:34.09 | Industrial | Fisker-: you are my bitch |
| 23:34.19 | Vangual | Arrowmaster: awesome thanks. |
| 23:34.21 | Shefki | vs: svn up |
| 23:34.24 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: IT DOESN"T. |
| 23:34.27 | jnwhiteh | that's the damn point |
| 23:34.55 | jnwhiteh | he's asking for a specific optimization |
| 23:35.01 | jnwhiteh | and he's a whiny bitch for complaining =) |
| 23:35.14 | Industrial | you are all bitches |
| 23:35.16 | jnwhiteh | as I already stated its not necessary to do it, or bad that you have it the way you have it. |
| 23:35.18 | jnwhiteh | Industrial: TRUTH |
| 23:35.30 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: An optimization that for how we're using it is a complication of using git that requires more effort on my part only becuase we're using git. |
| 23:35.39 | jnwhiteh | wow. |
| 23:35.59 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: the next time you speak to me, don't try to defend your position as it is it factual, or intellectually based |
| 23:36.06 | Arrowmaster | git config branch.master.rebase true |
| 23:36.14 | jnwhiteh | If you're not willing to have a discussion without recognizing that we have differing opinions |
| 23:36.15 | Arrowmaster | 'This is a potentially _dangerous_ mode of operation. It rewrites history, which does not bode well when you published that history already. Do not use this option unless you have read git-rebase(1) carefully.' |
| 23:36.19 | jnwhiteh | then you're not worth my time |
| 23:36.40 | jnwhiteh | Have a good evening |
| 23:36.47 | Shefki | jnwhiteh: That's fine you're not worth my time becuase you can't recognize that git is entirely unnecessary for what we're doing. |
| 23:36.51 | jnwhiteh | night all! |
| 23:36.53 | Industrial | nini clad |
| 23:36.55 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: again, your opinion |
| 23:36.59 | jnwhiteh | and I happen to believe you are wrong |
| 23:37.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah thats entirely opinion |
| 23:37.11 | jnwhiteh | you could use a bit of perspective in your life |
| 23:37.13 | jnwhiteh | if you think that's a fact |
| 23:37.18 | ckknight | Shefki: I disagree as well, I prefer the distributed nature and clonability, which puts it over the top for SVN for me |
| 23:37.22 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: So what he's shoving his opinion down my throat as if it's fact. |
| 23:37.33 | jnwhiteh | Shefki: nope, I'm telling you CLEARLY that its my opinion |
| 23:37.34 | ckknight | Shefki: that's really the main reason I prefer it, if it didn't have that, we'd be usign SVN |
| 23:37.36 | ckknight | using* |
| 23:37.39 | jnwhiteh | i've never claimed it to be anything bit |
| 23:38.00 | Arrowmaster | for example im an OCD about some things and do not want people commiting crap to my repo with inconsistant whitespace, with git i can rebase their changes |
| 23:38.06 | jnwhiteh | being able to commit to my git repo when the "server" is offline is worth every single cent I pay. |
| 23:38.16 | jnwhiteh | and svk doesn't cut it |
| 23:38.23 | Shefki | svk is crap. |
| 23:38.25 | Industrial | ^ truth |
| 23:38.29 | waallen | Is there way to change the text on aura icons in PB4 yet? |
| 23:38.33 | jnwhiteh | if you don't think every single project could use offline commits |
| 23:38.39 | jnwhiteh | then I don't know what more to say *shrug* |
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| 23:38.48 | ckknight | waallen: not yet, I believe, I need to provide Shefki with an API first |
| 23:38.49 | Shefki | I honestly have no use for offline commits. |
| 23:38.54 | Shefki | It's just extra steps for me. |
| 23:38.59 | jnwhiteh | grats, real authors do |
| 23:39.01 | jnwhiteh | have a good night |
| 23:39.06 | jnwhiteh | i'm sorry for being rude |
| 23:39.15 | waallen | Alright, just wanted to know if it was already in and I was missing it |
| 23:39.15 | jnwhiteh | in that last statement |
| 23:39.17 | Shefki | Obviously I'm not a real author... Thanks for that fact. |
| 23:39.20 | jnwhiteh | i don't feel I was rude in the least prior to this. |
| 23:39.26 | Industrial | I dont even use any branching on my projects and now prefer git over svn just because I can make commits with parts of files |
| 23:39.43 | Arrowmaster | git add -i is fucking win |
| 23:39.50 | Industrial | hugs jnwhiteh |
| 23:39.53 | Industrial | hugs Shefki |
| 23:40.11 | ckknight | I think Industrial's right in all this |
| 23:40.15 | ckknight | everyone needs a hug |
| 23:40.17 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 23:41.03 | thecookie | Is there any way to set the key bindings to not save on the server? |
| 23:41.09 | ckknight | you're both grown men. the only way to solve this is fisticuffs. either that or a series of whale emotes. |
| 23:41.14 | Arrowmaster | yes, check the ui forums stickies |
| 23:41.21 | thecookie | Thanks. |
| 23:42.31 | thecookie | The Server Side Macros post? |
| 23:42.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:42.43 | Arrowmaster | you might need to read a few pages into it |
| 23:43.33 | Trell- | fisticuffs? I thought it was duelling pistols at dawn |
| 23:44.55 | Shefki | See I see distributed version control as inheriently more complicated. What git is doing is more complicated. Tracking changes without knowing what is public or not and so forth is a complicated task. I don't see how that is not a fact. I also don't really see how you can say "See SVN seends a central repo" and say that's more complicated. |
| 23:45.42 | thecookie | Arrowmaster: Found it. Is there any way to not sync keyboard layout settings? |
| 23:45.49 | thecookie | err, I meant bar settings. |
| 23:45.55 | Arrowmaster | bar, no |
| 23:46.23 | ckknight | Shefki: I realize that git having the split between local repo and server repo is an extra step, but I think that its upsides make up for it (for me, at least) |
| 23:46.52 | Arrowmaster | for me the local and server split is a major advantage |
| 23:47.02 | Arrowmaster | i like to polish my commits before making them public |
| 23:47.16 | Belazor | Arrow, when are you going to stop posting shit int he windows thread XD |
| 23:47.16 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I simply don't commit until they're polished. /shrug |
| 23:48.12 | Arrowmaster | Shefki: by that i mean i dont want to push a set of commits that makes a change then goes and reverts it because i shouldnt have done it, so instead i can just completely remove it from my set of commits before pushing |
| 23:48.18 | Arrowmaster | Belazor: never |
| 23:48.47 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: I never commit anything locally that I'm not intending to push. /shrug |
| 23:48.50 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: and you really think a system that encourages *not* commiting stuff to version control is somewhat bad? ^^ |
| 23:49.02 | Belazor | At least stop reading things out of context and/or keep in mind to back up your claims :p |
| 23:49.09 | ckknight | I do multiple commits and then push |
| 23:49.10 | ckknight | often |
| 23:49.18 | Arrowmaster | Belazor: i can backup my claims |
| 23:49.36 | Gnarfoz | to your external hdd, maybe |
| 23:49.50 | Belazor | With actual undisputable facts, or more research links that you take out of context? |
| 23:50.28 | Belazor | Because yes the HDCP DRM takes extra CPU cycles, but it doesn't run when non-HDCP content (read: pretty much all content atm, if not ALL) is being played back :p |
| 23:50.51 | Arrowmaster | did i make that claim? |
| 23:50.52 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:50.55 | Belazor | Yes |
| 23:50.57 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: *shrug* it's just my workflow. Which admittingly was formed by CVS ages ago. |
| 23:51.17 | Gnarfoz | q.e.d. ;o |
| 23:51.47 | Belazor | You brought up the Vista DRM as a reason not to switch to Vista. What else is that supposed to mean, than thinking that the DRM is running constantly? |
| 23:52.01 | Fisker- | sparta's Gnarfoz |
| 23:52.04 | Arrowmaster | i never sued that as my reason |
| 23:52.26 | Gnarfoz | where is this thread of awesomeness you're talking about? :D |
| 23:52.27 | Arrowmaster | used |
| 23:52.30 | Shefki | Belazor: Maybe he just doesn't want to support the DRM at all. |
| 23:52.38 | pastamancer | the win7 thread needs more fisker |
| 23:52.42 | Gnarfoz | casts +9001 on Fisker- |
| 23:52.49 | Shefki | Which is why I'm not buying anything blu-ray crap. |
| 23:52.52 | Shefki | I've drawn the line at dvds. |
| 23:52.59 | Belazor | Shefki: I thought of that, but then it would make more sense to just not buy content that has the DRM enabled |
| 23:53.06 | Belazor | And no blu-ray movies have this enabled ATM |
| 23:53.12 | Arrowmaster | my reasoning has nothing to do with performance, but everything to do with the entire DRM model in vista and windows 7 |
| 23:53.24 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r29 / (6 files in 1 directory): |
| 23:53.26 | Arrowmaster | since its still there even if you arent using something that activates it |
| 23:53.26 | Repo | Tested state machine pretty thorougly, tidied up along the way. |
| 23:53.31 | Shefki | Belazor: I realize that... But I pretty much take issue with the capability. |
| 23:53.41 | Shefki | Belazor: Why should I buy into a technology I disagree with. |
| 23:54.18 | Shefki | Belazor: Especially when ultimately, it's only going to annoy legitimate customers, not really stop any piracy. |
| 23:54.18 | Arrowmaster | if you actually read that entire article i linked you might understand my pov even if you disagree with it |
| 23:54.45 | Arrowmaster | instead of claiming i am spewing bullshit when i know exactly what i am talking about |
| 23:54.48 | Shefki | DRM has failed. IMHO. |
| 23:54.59 | ckknight | it'll still be used, Shefki |
| 23:55.00 | ckknight | don't worry |
| 23:55.05 | Belazor | Shefki: Why would you limit yourself to not be able to playback all the non-DRM content just because it's possible that they activate it on future movies? They can't go back and activate it on content you've already bought. |
| 23:55.12 | Shefki | ckknight: I'd say it's on the way out. |
| 23:55.13 | ckknight | because people will still see it as the right path, no matter what argument is used |
| 23:55.35 | ckknight | I dunno about that, but I wouldn't say that usage is growing overall |
| 23:55.37 | Shefki | Apple removing DRM from iTunes isn't a meaningless step. |
| 23:55.41 | Arrowmaster | all bluray's are DRMd |
| 23:55.44 | Chompers | a jailbroken ipod touch 2g, give give |
| 23:55.49 | Chompers | om nom nom |
| 23:55.49 | Zhinjio | well, "people" won't. but legislators and the movie industry might. |
| 23:55.50 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 23:56.31 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Right but the format was designed 5 years ago when everyone was OMG DRM IZ TEH AWESOMZ! |
| 23:56.41 | ckknight | legislators inherently stick to a plan that's been shown to fail because they were convinced of it aeons ago |
| 23:56.43 | Belazor | Arrowmaster: I do understand the point that DRM = bad, but I don't see the negatives of having some if checks that get skipped if the content Im trying to play back doesn't request it |
| 23:57.09 | Arrowmaster | except if you actually read that article you would know that they dont get skiped |
| 23:57.14 | ckknight | be it DRM, drugs, sex, violence, religion, leftism, conservatism, it doesn't matter |
| 23:57.24 | Arrowmaster | its not just the DRM but the effects of the DRM |
| 23:57.30 | Shefki | How can tests on content flags get skipped on content that doesn't have the flags. |
| 23:57.38 | Shefki | Doesn't it have to constantly look for the flag? |
| 23:57.39 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: add idealism to that list, heh |
| 23:57.49 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: among others |
| 23:58.13 | ckknight | I take the approach of "you assholes, stay away from my shit <cock shotgun>" |
| 23:58.13 | Belazor | Shefki: Not constantly, either the content requests it or not. You can't DRM half a movie, that would make no sense |
| 23:58.32 | Shefki | Belazor: The flags can be placed anywhere in the content. |
| 23:58.44 | Shefki | Belazor: You're only thinking in the context of Blu-Rays. |
| 23:58.51 | Shefki | But the same content flags can be used for broadcast content. |
| 23:59.12 | Belazor | I don't buy movie downloads or anything like that, so that doesn't affect me. |
| 23:59.15 | Shefki | The show might be DRM'ed but I doubt the commercials are flagged that way. |
| 23:59.18 | Shefki | And so on. |
| 23:59.30 | Arrowmaster | which vista does obay even when the law was struck down before vista was released |
| 23:59.37 | Shefki | Belazor: And content from broadcast can be put on a Blu-ray. |
| 23:59.46 | Shefki | So I'd say yes it has to constantly watch for the flags. |
| 23:59.48 | Arrowmaster | nothing else obays that god damn broadcast flag except windows |
| 23:59.57 | Belazor | And OS X |
