| 00:00.46 | orionshock | thing is im trying to write guild craft to pick up links from guild chat, xpt the thing is i need to open the link to make sure i know who it belongs to. Problem is that once the window is open i can't get the tradeskill link from the UI |
| 00:00.59 | Xinhuan | you can |
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| 00:01.08 | stavmar | hello |
| 00:01.31 | stavmar | Does anyone remember a mod that used to color the weapon/armor boxes in the paper doll |
| 00:01.37 | Xinhuan | isLinked, otherPlayerName = IsTradeSkillLinked() |
| 00:01.44 | stavmar | The color would be based on the rarity |
| 00:01.49 | Xinhuan | that is, when the trade skill panel is open, just call "isLinked, otherPlayerName = IsTradeSkillLinked()" |
| 00:01.55 | orionshock | right Xinhuan, that's what i do to know who's it is |
| 00:02.02 | orionshock | but GetTradeSkillListLink() returns a dead mans link |
| 00:02.10 | Mikk | wonders what the hell can cause UIDROPDOWNMENU_INIT_MENU to be a table value when the only piece of code that sets it is UIDROPDOWNMENU_INIT_MENU = frame:GetName(); |
| 00:02.19 | Mikk | realizes he hasnt extracted new framexml |
| 00:02.39 | Mikk | yes, i was bashing my head against that one for 10 minutes now |
| 00:02.44 | Mikk | and realized it as i hit enter |
| 00:02.47 | Mikk | i'm good that way |
| 00:03.35 | Xinhuan | that's not what i'm seeing/getting orionshock |
| 00:03.38 | Xinhuan | GetTradeSkillListLink() still works |
| 00:04.11 | Xinhuan | mikk, UIDROPDOWNMENU_INIT_MENU now stores the direct reference to that dropdown menu frame |
| 00:04.20 | Xinhuan | no longer the string (name) |
| 00:04.33 | Xinhuan | same for UIDROPDOWNMENU_OPEN_MENU |
| 00:05.08 | Mikk | yeah noticed |
| 00:05.29 | Xinhuan | hmm orionshock, maybe you're right |
| 00:05.37 | orionshock | Xinhuan: try using someone elses link than yours :) |
| 00:05.55 | Xinhuan | well... cache the link i guess (lol) |
| 00:06.16 | orionshock | cache the link and use GUID matching? |
| 00:07.12 | Xinhuan | not sure if that works |
| 00:07.22 | Xinhuan | [08:06:37] "|cffffd000|Htrade:51302:0:0:186A2C:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA|h[Leatherworking]|h|r" |
| 00:07.24 | Xinhuan | is the dud link |
| 00:07.29 | Xinhuan | [08:06:47] "|cffffd000|Htrade:51302:450:450:19EF345:e+WFFPCtCvZYtsVAoMAAeJBCDAMAr4xAAAAAAAc8//BAAAAAEAAAAAAAAAwwA4/vK5//////f7/////////vzG|h[Leatherworking]|h|r" |
| 00:07.31 | Xinhuan | is the real link |
| 00:07.36 | orionshock | 186A2C is your guid |
| 00:07.54 | orionshock | 19EF345 is your real guid |
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| 00:08.17 | Xinhuan | and you are correct on both of that |
| 00:09.06 | orionshock | the UI has to open it somehow.. |
| 00:09.15 | orionshock | time to go dig up forum threads and posts by Tekkub |
| 00:09.59 | orionshock | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11629-TradeBook.html |
| 00:11.21 | orionshock | SetItemRef(link:match("|H([^|]+)")) |
| 00:11.55 | orionshock | can't pass the link but you can pass the simplified version of it :) |
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| 00:12.59 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 00:17.36 | doom0r | so, you can effectively get anyone's tradeskills just with their guid? |
| 00:18.26 | orionshock | no their guid is part of the link |
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| 00:19.34 | orionshock | well tried hooking SetItemRef to capture the link.. |
| 00:19.46 | orionshock | it makes my compareLinks function wig out and act funny |
| 00:19.51 | Primer | It seems that windows has "execute" permission |
| 00:20.12 | Primer | I just scp'd a .exe file to my box, and double clicking it didn't "make it go"... |
| 00:20.19 | Primer | yet, I chmod +x file, and now it works |
| 00:20.30 | Primer | literally, chmod +x in a cygwin term |
| 00:20.59 | taleden | what version of windows? |
| 00:21.15 | Primer | XP |
| 00:21.38 | orionshock | well it works :) |
| 00:22.17 | Primer | well, I tried this new CurseClient.exe |
| 00:22.23 | Primer | and...my credentials are not there |
| 00:22.28 | Primer | nor do I recall them |
| 00:22.33 | Primer | rm -f CurseClient.exe |
| 00:22.44 | Primer | back to 2.0.0.14 |
| 00:23.05 | Primer | "Waiting for login to finish" |
| 00:23.15 | Primer | remains even after I killed the window without logging in |
| 00:23.25 | Primer | guess they never thought someone would do that :) |
| 00:28.28 | Primer | hrmm, this new curse client lists a bunch of addons under the "unknown addons" tab |
| 00:28.57 | Primer | yet, I installed many of these via curse |
| 00:29.43 | Primer | IHML for example |
| 00:31.03 | Gnarfoz | <Primer> It seems that windows has "execute" permission <-- filesystem stuff, so "NTFS", not windows, and yes, it has had that for ages |
| 00:31.32 | Gnarfoz | like it has read & write, too, for every user, + other more fine grained details |
| 00:32.15 | Primer | thing is, the error didn't mention anything remotely looking like "lack of execute permission" |
| 00:32.22 | Arrowmaster | Primer: thats what you get for using scp from cygwin |
| 00:32.34 | Primer | heh, scp was on Linux |
| 00:32.37 | Arrowmaster | cygwin's permissions are totally fucked up |
| 00:32.38 | Primer | ssh was on cygwin |
| 00:32.52 | Primer | but yeah |
| 00:33.07 | Primer | it simply copied the same perms that were on the source box |
| 00:33.08 | Primer | 644 |
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| 00:35.18 | NeoTron | hmm does a DW frost/unholy type build not actually rely on obliterate at all? just HB and when on cooldown, IT/PS? |
| 00:36.18 | Primer | hrmm, no more pitbull 3 on curse? |
| 00:36.29 | ckknight | it should be there. |
| 00:36.38 | ckknight | @curse pit-bull |
| 00:36.39 | Repo | ckknight: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pit-bull.aspx |
| 00:36.58 | Primer | sigh, I should have backed up my addons directory before doing this |
| 00:37.04 | CrazyBenny | never trust Curses search results :P |
| 00:37.10 | Primer | yeah, this new curse beta...not good |
| 00:37.23 | Primer | good thing I rsync'd to this box this morning |
| 00:39.15 | Zyndrome | NeoTron , with DW Frost/Unholy (0/32/39), you don't use Obliterate at all |
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| 00:48.05 | Repo | 10chatter: 03mikk * r224 Modules/AltNames.lua: |
| 00:48.05 | Primer | Is there no way to obtain the spellids of the current auras? I can find nothing that supplies this |
| 00:48.08 | Repo | 3.0.8 fix: No longer errors on "Set Main" (UIDROPDOWNMENU_INIT_MENU is now a frame ref, not a frame name) |
| 00:48.11 | Repo | + Fill out already-existing main in dialog (if any) |
| 00:48.19 | NeoTron | because IT is so good I presume, compared to Ob with a 1h |
| 00:48.35 | Mikk | Primer: work backwards. Get names+icons of known spellids. |
| 00:48.44 | Mikk | Then compare with the buffs you see |
| 00:49.06 | Mikk | Just names might work too |
| 00:49.16 | Primer | aren't names localized though? |
| 00:49.21 | Mikk | Yes |
| 00:49.27 | Mikk | GetSpellInfo() returns localized data |
| 00:51.09 | Primer | ugh, just can't think right now, so tired |
| 00:51.54 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:51.54 | Mikk | 01:51:17 Ebon Plague Interface\Icons\Spell_Shadow_NetherCloak 0 false 0 0 0 50000 |
| 00:52.19 | Mikk | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.27 | Mikk | 01:52:04 Alchemist's Stone Interface\Icons\INV_Misc_Orb_02 0 nil 0 0 1 nil |
| 00:52.34 | Mikk | oh look, name and icon to match! :P |
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| 00:53.19 | Paene | What's the name of the addon that consolidates your minimap buttons into a one button menu of all of them? |
| 00:54.11 | NeoTron | MBB - MinimapButtonBag or something. It's a scary piece of code that might lock up your wow |
| 00:54.16 | Primer | I'm trying to add some useful debug code into my addon so that I can ask someone with the Headless Horseman mount to test stuff for me |
| 00:54.52 | Primer | I'm wondering why this code doesn't detect it: if (UnitBuff ("player", GetSpellInfo (27152)) then |
| 00:55.11 | Bruners | link to that arena xibit thing |
| 00:55.13 | Primer | that's supposedly the aura for the flying one, and 27153 is supposed to be the aura for the ground one |
| 00:55.17 | CrazyBenny | hmm, I'm wondering why comparing spell names from GetSpellInfo and GetSpellName on russian client fails on most of the names |
| 00:56.03 | taleden | if arg2 to unitbuff is a string (the name), then arg3 is the rank |
| 00:56.10 | taleden | the returns from GetSpellInfo are not name,rank,... methinks |
| 00:56.58 | taleden | if you put GetSpellInfo() in parens to chop off the extra return values it might work |
| 00:57.11 | taleden | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.15 | ckknight | everyone should vote for Shamwow: http://www.cnbc.com/id/28855631/ |
| 00:57.59 | Bruners | http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6905/oddarenalt3.jpg this one with xibit |
| 01:03.07 | doom0r | http://www.wowwiki.com/TradeSkillLink apprears to be incorrect |
| 01:04.26 | doom0r | you'll get d/c'd ifyou have incorrect tradeskill current/max |
| 01:07.43 | Zao | Bruners: http://www.imagedumpwitheasy.com/uploads/7c0eb1c4b6.png |
| 01:08.16 | doom0r | k, i didn't laugh that time |
| 01:08.20 | Bruners | Zao: thanks |
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| 01:14.17 | Zhinjio | If I want to use a "stock" texture that blizz provides on a button, but rotate it |
| 01:14.27 | Zhinjio | I need to create a texture object to manipulate? |
| 01:17.06 | Primer | ugh, upgraded to Fedora 10 and now wow in wine fails to display the cursor often |
| 01:17.57 | Primer | it almost seems as it it's some invisible frame |
| 01:18.10 | Primer | moving the cursor to certain areas causes it to disappear |
| 01:18.50 | sylvanaar | anyone done 3D since 3.08? |
| 01:20.13 | sylvanaar | the debuff clearing doesnt work now - so what are ppl doing about that? |
| 01:20.32 | NeoTron | stacking damage reduction abilities and guardian spirits I gather |
| 01:20.58 | doom0r | Primer: "If you cannot see the mouse cursor in the distance, lower your distance slider to the lowest setting. This will *not* fix the bug (which is a WoW bug, not wine) but will keep it manageable as less terrain will be drawn that can obscure it. " |
| 01:21.15 | doom0r | ? |
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| 01:22.21 | Primer | doom0r: that's...undesirable |
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| 01:23.48 | doom0r | Primer: you using launcher or command switch? |
| 01:23.55 | doom0r | for opengl that is |
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| 01:26.14 | Primer | command line switch |
| 01:26.37 | Primer | wine WoW.exe -- -opengl |
| 01:27.02 | doom0r | heh, then you're sol til blizz fixes it |
| 01:27.13 | doom0r | apparently directx is getting it too |
| 01:27.23 | Primer | I haven't seen it in windows |
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| 01:29.03 | taleden | that happens to me too primer, the terrain distance thing |
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| 01:31.20 | Zhinjio | anyone have time for a few questions about button texture handling? |
| 01:31.26 | Zhinjio | so I don't bug the channel? |
| 01:33.42 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r210 modules/AltNames.lua: fix for #83 thanks again Medalist! |
| 01:35.04 | Groktar | loads up the battlestar galactica soundtracks into his playlist |
| 01:35.20 | Groktar | puts a music bot into every vent channel |
| 01:36.48 | orionshock | bans Groktar from vent :) |
| 01:37.10 | sylvanaar | NeoTron yeah, i was afraid of that, it means you need specific classes |
| 01:38.09 | orionshock | sylvanaar: wondering if you use WIM yourself? |
| 01:38.38 | sylvanaar | orionshock i do, just its off during raids |
| 01:39.12 | orionshock | k, i found a problem between wim and prat when wim uses prat formatting for the wim message windows. |
| 01:39.37 | Zhinjio | so.... if I want to use a stock texture for a button, BUT I want to rotate it, do I need to create custom texture objects and methods for pushed/disabled/normal? |
| 01:39.58 | orionshock | it errors out and hangs wim all togeather... sadly no stacktrace >.> |
| 01:40.56 | Repo | 10bootycall: 03Rabbit * r4 mmmbooty.lua: Fix loot source. |
| 01:42.18 | sylvanaar | orionshock doing what? |
| 01:44.01 | sylvanaar | orionshock are you sure its not a 3rd addon involved? |
| 01:44.13 | orionshock | most of the time im closing wim windows and i get a new message, usually when it fubars |
| 01:44.29 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 01:44.42 | sylvanaar | well, thats not a common case |
| 01:44.44 | orionshock | & the message formatting it set to Prat style |
| 01:44.58 | orionshock | ... it is when you'r pugin an old world raid :) |
| 01:45.19 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 01:45.52 | orionshock | 15x " Oo OO Pick me, pick me" |
| 01:46.24 | orionshock | & ur like ... 'iaght ppl... wait your turn...." , close close, close,,.. & wim fubars... |
| 01:46.26 | orionshock | >.> /rl |
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| 01:56.15 | SportChick | hey Pricey |
| 01:56.36 | vhaarr | SportChick: ircop I presume? |
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| 01:56.41 | SportChick | vhaarr: yep |
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| 01:56.59 | Wobin | I always read ircop as Ir-cop |
| 01:57.01 | vhaarr | SportChick: cool, I just set +m and was going to report it, guess it's all taken care of now |
| 01:57.12 | Wobin | and think omg it's the fuzz |
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| 01:57.22 | Shefki | vhaarr: I had just alerted stx when SportChick dealt with it. |
| 01:58.51 | Stx | Should probably consider adding the staff hostmask to the access-list if you want us to be able to deal with these kind of stuff in the future.. |
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| 02:00.55 | *** mode/#wowace [+mRr] by vhaarr |
| 02:00.58 | vhaarr | jeez |
| 02:01.39 | *** mode/#wowace [-m] by vhaarr |
| 02:02.06 | vhaarr | I'll just leave it +Rr until someone removes it in a few hours, time for bed |
| 02:02.21 | Bruners | Rr does what? |
| 02:02.36 | vhaarr | only allows registered and identified users to join the channel |
| 02:02.49 | vhaarr | i.e. the channel will be nub-free for the time being |
| 02:03.02 | Bruners | then the question is, why not always have it like that |
| 02:03.14 | vhaarr | because everyone starts out as a nub, Bruners |
| 02:03.17 | vhaarr | but they can grow |
| 02:03.25 | Bruners | its fairly easy to register |
| 02:03.59 | Bruners | and if it was like that, more people would register |
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| 02:24.47 | SlikerHawk | .. That bot just us? |
| 02:25.20 | SlikerHawk | oh, nevermind |
| 02:25.53 | Bruners | they accidentally a channel |
| 02:25.56 | NeoTron | b |
| 02:26.25 | Shirik | Shiibot detected him in less than a second |
| 02:26.27 | Shirik | is happy |
| 02:26.48 | SlikerHawk | gdgd |
| 02:26.55 | NeoTron | maybe shiibot should be in here too |
| 02:27.20 | Shirik | I don't have ops in this channel so I never asked :P |
| 02:27.28 | Mikk | curses LibDogTag_Unit for spamming GuildRoster() every 20 seconds |
| 02:27.30 | Zyndrome | just someone who is going to the club and be all like "Hey lady, I just botzerged a channel on IRC an- hey hey hey wait wait I wasn't finished COME BACK NO DONT GIVE ME THE FINGER YOU FUKKEN.... *throw glass*" |
| 02:31.53 | Xinhuan | u sure its dog tag mikk? |
| 02:32.08 | Mikk | very |
| 02:32.29 | Mikk | i see guild_roster_update spam every 20 secs.. and look, libdogtag-unit has a 20 sec timer in it that spams GuildRoster |
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| 02:32.46 | Xinhuan | wonder what tag needs that info |
| 02:32.52 | Mikk | [guildnote] |
| 02:32.59 | Xinhuan | doh |
| 02:33.05 | Shefki | Shouldn't run if you don't use [guildnote] |
| 02:33.16 | Mikk | quite |
| 02:33.22 | Mikk | and shouldnt be spamming updates like that either way |
| 02:33.24 | Shefki | If it is that's a bug, open a ticket. |
| 02:47.41 | Ackis | Xinhuan: I finally broke 5k achievement points :P |
| 02:47.55 | Xinhuan | hehe |
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| 02:53.24 | Ackis | how far are you for the 100 mount achievement? |
| 02:53.37 | Xinhuan | 89 |
| 02:54.17 | Ackis | damn |
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| 02:56.30 | RaydenUni | so i join this naxx pugg |
| 02:56.34 | RaydenUni | we start in arachnid |
| 02:56.38 | RaydenUni | first aoe pull goes fine |
| 02:56.43 | RaydenUni | 2nd pull we end up doing 2 pulls |
| 02:56.54 | Ackis | heh exalted with kirin tor, warsond offensive and horde expedition today lol |
| 02:57.00 | RaydenUni | and we have no one to decurse so the 75% healing reduction gets us and wipes us but not before we kill half the spiders |
| 02:57.04 | RaydenUni | then someone realizes it's on heroic |
| 03:00.14 | taleden | when we first started doing nax we accidentally 10 manned military all the way up to raz |
| 03:00.48 | taleden | somehow we managed to get through the triple mounted death knights with the aoe silence, and then stood there staring at raz and 4 adds and thinking "this 10 man strat does not make any sense" |
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| 03:46.19 | Mikk | "wow, 10man is hard!" |
| 03:55.53 | Torhal | Mikk: That could be taken completely out of context. |
| 03:56.15 | Mikk | busts out the K-Y jelly |
| 03:56.29 | |Jelly| | You rang? |
| 03:56.37 | Mikk | "You guys will have to bring the Nutella." |
| 03:57.08 | Repo | 10revelation: 03Torhal 043.0.8-1.1.7 * r62 : Tagging as 3.0.8-1.1.7 |
| 03:57.34 | Mikk | @project revelation |
| 03:57.35 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/projects/revelation/. Revelation. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 seconds ago. Tickets: 2/5 |
| 04:12.48 | Repo | 10wowunit: 03feithar * r2 / (8 files in 1 directory): WoWUnit: |
| 04:12.51 | Repo | - Initial import. |
| 04:13.28 | Repo | 10fbag-of-holding: 03feithar * r91 FItemDB.lua: FBagOfHolding: |
| 04:13.31 | Repo | - Tweaked upgrade functions for easier testing. |
| 04:14.40 | Repo | 10wowunit: 03feithar 041.0 * r3 : Tagging as 1.0 |
| 04:19.30 | Wraithan1 | Is there any decent wishlist type addons? |
| 04:19.43 | Wraithan1 | I know atlasloot has one that is ok |
| 04:24.20 | ulic | Wraithan1: funny you should ask, I was thinking of looking for the same thing, let me know if you find something. |
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| 04:24.52 | Wraithan1 | ulic: I was thinking of writing one is why I asked heh |
| 04:25.21 | ulic | that was going to be my recourse if I couldn't find one :) |
| 04:25.33 | ulic | but you might do a better job than me, I'm a hack :) |
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| 04:26.11 | ulic | curse.com has one called wishlist |
| 04:27.41 | ulic | looks decent, I'll give it a try. |
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| 04:46.08 | ulic | Wraithan1: Wishlist shows promise, but can't get it add items for me as painless as I'd prefer. |
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| 05:42.02 | quiescens | you broek it! |
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| 05:43.00 | Torhal | quiescens: I blame Groktar. |
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| 05:47.10 | Kivin | Somebody please recommend me a minimap addon. |
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| 05:50.19 | Zhinjio | evenin' |
| 05:50.54 | Torhal | Kivin: SexyMap |
| 05:50.57 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yo. |
| 05:51.00 | Kivin | Torhal: thanks. |
| 05:51.10 | Kivin | Either of you using Pitbull4 yet? |
| 05:51.16 | Torhal | Yah |
| 05:51.33 | Kivin | I'm trying to reproduce a UI with was largely built around PB3 and I'm finding it impossible with Pb4s settings |
| 05:51.48 | Torhal | It's not finished yet, so... |
| 05:51.56 | Torhal | You could always file a ticket for each issue, though. |
| 05:52.01 | Kivin | Is there any way to make the "empty" portion of a bar a brighter colour than the full portion? |
| 05:52.33 | Torhal | No idea, haven't mucked around with that. |
| 05:52.51 | Zhinjio | Kiving, change the background color of the layout? |
| 05:53.05 | Kivin | I want the background to be solid black |
| 05:53.22 | Zhinjio | ah, so just the background of the bar itself |
| 05:53.24 | quiescens | you could um |
| 05:53.31 | quiescens | check both the deficit and reverse checkboxes |
| 05:53.34 | Zhinjio | you could make it 'reverse fille |
| 05:53.35 | Zhinjio | yeah |
| 05:53.48 | Kivin | Hm... that's outlandish but may just work |
| 05:53.50 | Kivin | Let me try it. |
| 05:53.55 | Zhinjio | hahaha |
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| 05:54.37 | Kivin | rofl that did it |
| 05:55.49 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Latest Revelation makes my toes curl. |
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| 06:01.54 | Torhal | Meh. Must start getting ready for work in 5.5 hours. I suppose a bit of sleep is in order. |
| 06:01.59 | Torhal | waves. |
| 06:02.52 | Zhinjio | toes curl in a good way? |
| 06:05.04 | stavmar | anyone remember the mod that colored the equip slots in the paperdoll with rareity color |
| 06:05.32 | Fisker- | Fizzle |
| 06:06.03 | stavmar | ty Fisker- |
| 06:08.43 | Kivin | SexyMap is way too fucking flashy. Need something simple. Any suggestions? |
| 06:08.43 | stavmar | for what |
| 06:08.51 | durcyn | you can turn the flashy bits off, you know. |
| 06:08.52 | Kivin | just to strip down the minimap and put it in a plain border |
| 06:08.53 | Zhinjio | Kivin: SexyMap can be made to be fairly simple as well |
| 06:09.14 | Kivin | I'm not digging through mpq files to find texture paths if it requires me to do that. It seemed like it wanted me to |
| 06:09.21 | durcyn | no |
| 06:09.41 | durcyn | there are presets for a bunch of different styles, including plain |
| 06:09.57 | Kivin | Not seeing them. Anywhere. |
| 06:10.09 | Kivin | Oh, it's not in borders |
| 06:10.39 | Kivin | That'd be very, very cool if I wasn't looking for something ultra minimalistic |
| 06:10.42 | durcyn | though i suppose Squeenix would do what you want with a smaller footprint |
| 06:10.43 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yes, in a good way. |
| 06:11.36 | Torhal | I've ofund that Squeenix doesn't work well at all without AddonLoader. |
| 06:11.43 | Torhal | s/ofund/found/ |
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| 06:14.05 | Kivin | profiling sucks on sexymap |
| 06:14.14 | Kivin | settings don't carry over from one char to another |
| 06:14.47 | durcyn | ace3's default profile setting is character, it's not sexymap=. |
| 06:15.08 | durcyn | anyway, how often do you add or delete characters? set a global profile, once each, done. |
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| 06:16.06 | Kivin | durcyn, I made a global profile and it doesn't work |
| 06:16.24 | Zhinjio | Kivin: actually... it *mostly* does. |
| 06:16.27 | durcyn | antiarc may have neglected a profile change callback or two. |
| 06:16.40 | Kivin | I have what looks like two profiles on top of each other since i changed the profile in sexymap |
| 06:16.41 | Zhinjio | the problem is that some settings, and specifically things regarding the minimap, require a reload to make "stick" |
| 06:16.42 | durcyn | which would require a reloadui after a profile change, sadly |
| 06:16.56 | Kivin | trying |
| 06:17.25 | Kivin | that sitll didn't do it, the map isn't in the right spot and my button settings didn't carry over |
| 06:17.44 | durcyn | your settings were saved to the profile that was active before the reload |
| 06:18.00 | Kivin | screw it, trying squeenix |
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| 06:22.16 | durcyn | never said profiles were great, just explaining why it's titsup =P |
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| 06:28.55 | Maelos | We're having some trouble with headcount not picking up loot if the ML is not near the person who received loot. |
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| 06:56.02 | Zhinjio | anyone know enough about texture rotation to help with a problem? |
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| 07:05.09 | vhaarr | ~seen kemayo |
| 07:05.11 | purl | kemayo is currently on #curseforge (1h 34m 11s), last said: 'I'm just really bad at leaving IRC channels.'. |
| 07:05.21 | thul | http://fc47.deviantart.com/fs41/f/2009/026/5/b/psychedelic_catsuit_by_pjfox.jpg <- spaced out (nsfw?) |
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| 07:15.26 | Zhinjio | heya thul |
| 07:16.31 | Zhinjio | vhaarr: ever played with texture rotation at all? |
| 07:17.02 | Groktar | bites Zhinjio |
| 07:18.25 | Zhinjio | Groktar: hey |
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| 07:19.33 | Groktar | hey |
| 07:19.51 | Groktar | you might need some rabies shots |
| 07:20.18 | Zhinjio | wouldn't be the first time |
| 07:20.34 | Groktar | i don't leave the house |
| 07:20.41 | Groktar | so i won't have to worry about that sort of thing. |
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| 07:41.42 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: hm not that I can remember right now |
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| 07:44.04 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 07:44.15 | Zhinjio | This is kicking my ass. Trying another method now |
| 07:44.25 | Zhinjio | I haven't done matrix math in 20 years |
| 07:44.30 | Zhinjio | thats fucking frightening |
| 07:45.35 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: sure you can't rotate it with a simple :SetPoint? |
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| 07:46.02 | Zhinjio | no, I'm not sure. |
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| 07:46.14 | Zhinjio | looks into it. |
| 07:47.04 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: and you should also be able to do :SetTexCoord with 4 X/Y pairs to do arbitrary affine transformations, according to wowwiki.com |
| 07:47.07 | vhaarr | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord |
| 07:47.10 | vhaarr | anyway I'm off to work |
| 07:48.38 | Zhinjio | vhaarr: yes, thats what I've been trying to use. |
| 07:48.41 | Zhinjio | have fun at work |
| 07:49.15 | nevcairiel | setpoint cannot rotate, you need matrix math and settexcoord for that |
| 07:49.23 | Zhinjio | ok, just checking. |
| 07:49.24 | nevcairiel | you'll figure it out 0P |
| 07:49.46 | quiescens | 1+1=3 |
| 07:49.48 | Zhinjio | nods. Eventually I'll steal the right bit of code that actually works *grin* |
| 07:50.11 | nevcairiel | the affine transformation page on wowwiki should tell you all you need to know, imho |
| 07:50.21 | Zhinjio | yeah, I've been trying to use that. |
| 07:50.27 | Zhinjio | + example code from another addon. |
| 07:50.46 | Zhinjio | the problem is that I'm trying to do it with textures on a button (pushed, disable, normal) |
| 07:50.56 | Zhinjio | and I don't think the combination of those is behaving nicely |
| 07:58.35 | Trell_ | @project gnomishyellowpages |
| 07:58.36 | Repo | Trell_: http://www.wowace.com/projects/gnomishyellowpages/. Gnomish Yellow Pages. Game: WoW. lilsparky (Manager/Author). Updated: 2 days ago. Tickets: 1/3 |
| 08:03.15 | Zhinjio | yay! it works. |
| 08:03.27 | Zhinjio | now to get the hover hilight working... |
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| 08:37.59 | quiescens | run awai |
| 08:38.17 | NivFreak | freaking server |
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| 08:41.33 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster ping |
| 08:41.50 | thul | I'm getting increasingly tired of "FILESHARING IS NOT THEFT!! THE ORIGINAL COPY IS STILL THEREEEER!!!!!11o1neeoneee!!"-posts on forums, comments in newspapers etc. |
| 08:42.03 | ckknight | thul: it's not theft |
| 08:42.07 | ckknight | it's copyright infringement |
| 08:42.34 | ckknight | which, depending on what you steal, can carry a far larger sentence than just plain theft |
| 08:42.44 | ckknight | also, I've found that trolling /b/ is hilarious fun. |
| 08:43.47 | Fisker- | want some slavery and death? |
| 08:44.08 | ckknight | hey Fisker-, check out the thread I've been trolling: http://img.4chan.org/b/res/112646492.html |
| 08:44.30 | thul | ckknight: well, my point is that the definition of "stealing" and "theft" in the judicial sense, is not something you can linguistically or logically deduce or induce or argue your way to, the law-makers and the courts define it, and that is that :-P |
| 08:44.50 | Fisker- | naw |
| 08:44.58 | ckknight | c'mon |
| 08:45.01 | ckknight | it's hilarious |
| 08:45.17 | Fisker- | I have ordinary people to the left and right of me |
| 08:45.21 | ckknight | you can tell it's me when I say "I use IE6 for added security" |
| 08:45.23 | Fisker- | i can't put them through that |
| 08:45.31 | ckknight | it's actually a SFW thread |
| 08:45.35 | ckknight | surprisingly enough |
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| 08:45.48 | Fisker- | Trolls are sleeping then |
| 08:45.53 | Fisker- | Still porn ads >P |
| 08:46.07 | ckknight | ah |
| 08:46.16 | ckknight | you must be using IE6 for added security |
| 08:46.19 | ckknight | no adblock |
| 08:47.05 | Fisker- | IE8 for added security |
| 08:47.10 | Fisker- | and it does have adblock |
| 08:47.26 | Fisker- | I only block curse ads though |
| 08:47.53 | Maelos | How much of a performance hit is it to run CPU profiling with Fubar_PerformanceFu? |
| 08:48.05 | Maelos | I'd like to run it during a raid but dont want to bury myself doing it |
| 08:48.13 | nevcairiel | it'll eat you alive |
| 08:48.37 | Fisker- | i\ll eat you alive |
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| 08:56.10 | fatbrain | hrm, FauxScrollFrame, using the FauxScrollFrame_OnVerticalScroll defined in my .xml, is there some way I could get the offset?! when I use it now, all I have is FauxScrollFrame_OnVerticalScroll (self, 12, Height, UpdateFunction); i.e. I want to replace 12 with the actual offset... :S |
| 08:57.31 | fatbrain | nvm, I need to start using my brain before posting crap on IRC |
| 08:57.39 | fatbrain | (ignore previous made question, cheers) |
| 08:58.19 | fatbrain | (took me some time to realize that OnVerticalScroll held the answer) |
| 08:58.22 | Kivin | Don't suppose there's an addon that keeps track of quest items in my inventory. Like, if I pick up dailies, makes it easy to activate my daily quest items |
| 09:00.36 | Groktar | well, sometimes i close everything except the quest item pocket in baggins |
| 09:00.57 | Kivin | maybe i should get baggins |
| 09:01.12 | Groktar | it fails at splitting stacks tho |
| 09:01.41 | Fisker- | Groktar is basically hitler |
| 09:01.48 | Groktar | ^ |
| 09:02.00 | Xinhuan | hey ckknight, just a minor quibble, the activity logs has links to places like "http://www.wowace.com/roles/8-author/" i can't see/use (403 error) ;p |
| 09:02.25 | ckknight | hmm |
| 09:02.26 | ckknight | k |
| 09:09.03 | nevcairiel | hey ckknight, can we get a filter-by-namespace for http://www.wowace.com/projects/gathermate/localization/esES/ ? :) |
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| 09:25.04 | fatbrain | What exactly is Blizzard AddOn Kit? |
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| 09:27.00 | fatbrain | (it doesn't install on my computer, and google wasn't much help) |
| 09:27.14 | Xinhuan | gaaaaaah |
| 09:27.22 | Xinhuan | arcane hotfixed |
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| 09:29.25 | Groktar | what happened? |
| 09:29.35 | quiescens | you broke it |
| 09:29.52 | Groktar | removes blink and frost nova |
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| 09:36.11 | fatbrain | If I want to browse available textures, would it be easiest to extract all the .blp textures from the mpq's? |
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| 09:36.56 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen Shadowed |
| 09:37.06 | purl | shadowed is currently on #wowuidev (3h 58m 56s) #wowace (3h 58m 56s), last said: 'unless you're EU'. |
| 09:37.51 | Xinhuan | well about 6 hours ago |
| 09:37.55 | Xinhuan | blizzard made 3 changes |
| 09:38.11 | Xinhuan | 1. Arcane Blast glyph nerfed from 5% to 3% |
| 09:38.26 | Xinhuan | 2. Arcane Blast no longer affects Arcane Missiles (tooltip still does) |
| 09:38.47 | Xinhuan | 3. Using Arcane Missiles now immediately consumes Arcane Blast buff (so arcane barrage clipping is no longer possible) |
| 09:40.50 | Kalroth | on PTR? |
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| 09:46.46 | Tinyboom | hotfixed i reckon |
| 09:49.01 | Groktar | they're doing a ton of stuff tonight |
| 09:49.19 | Groktar | yay fixed warlock summon ^_^ |
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| 09:56.07 | jnwhiteh | hrm, so my client says that someone is spamming this channel |
| 09:56.19 | jnwhiteh | only its not appearing here, it's only showing up in my "other activity window" |
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| 10:25.37 | Groktar | releases the murlocs |
| 10:26.01 | Zhinjio | Let Loose the Murlocs of War! |
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| 10:35.37 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Suuuuuuure. Egg him on. |
| 10:40.01 | Zhinjio | Torhal: work time? |
| 10:40.06 | Zhinjio | and what was that about toes curling? |
| 10:40.15 | Torhal | Fuck, no. |
| 10:40.24 | Torhal | Woman came to bed, woke my ass up. |
| 10:40.42 | Zhinjio | hate it when that happens |
| 10:40.44 | Torhal | Oh, I finally got the damn thing slicked out. |
| 10:40.55 | Zhinjio | so many women, so little time. |
| 10:40.58 | Torhal | Icons for menu elements, informative tooltips |
| 10:40.59 | Zhinjio | yeah? cool. |
| 10:41.06 | Zhinjio | awesome. I'll check it out. |
| 10:41.15 | Torhal | :D |
| 10:41.18 | Zhinjio | FUCK. I forgot about maintenance. |
| 10:41.22 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 10:41.45 | Torhal | Toadkiller suggested the icons, and I'd been wanting better tooltips because all it worked for was enchantments and smelting. |
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| 10:43.44 | Zhinjio | I'll check it out tomorrow when shit comes back uop |
| 10:43.46 | Zhinjio | er, up |
| 10:44.00 | Zhinjio | wait, is it tuesday> it is. |
| 10:44.04 | Zhinjio | is it extended maintenance? |
| 10:44.08 | Zhinjio | I suspect so. |
| 10:44.13 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 10:44.14 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 10:44.29 | nevcairiel | it is :P |
| 10:44.39 | Zhinjio | cries. |
| 10:44.51 | Zhinjio | every time I actually get a night to work on stuff, they shut it the fuck down. |
| 10:45.13 | nevcairiel | You always get that night on tuesdays? |
| 10:45.17 | Zhinjio | yes |
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| 10:45.25 | Zhinjio | my wife doesn't work on tuesday |
| 10:45.38 | Zhinjio | which means I can stay up all nigth coding and she can take care of the baby in the morning |
| 10:45.45 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: pong |
| 10:46.00 | Zhinjio | and I doubt we have PTRs right now, eh? |
| 10:46.02 | Xinhuan | just wondering |
| 10:46.11 | Xinhuan | what happened with infinibar-2.0 project |
| 10:46.25 | Xinhuan | phanx asked me today |
| 10:46.29 | nevcairiel | ~seen AckisWork |
| 10:46.30 | purl | ackiswork <i=8ee555cd@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 3d 11h 34m 20s ago, saying: 'gumby_jd: try doing that pre wrath but post 3.02 where the guards were 75 and you were 70'. |
| 10:46.38 | nevcairiel | where does he hide |
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| 10:46.59 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt have given away, it didnt have an open source license set |
| 10:47.00 | NivFreak | I sort of want to wear 10man tier instead of 25man gear just because of looks |
| 10:47.01 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 10:47.06 | Xinhuan | did u close repo access ? |
| 10:47.09 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 10:47.15 | Xinhuan | phanx was asking me to close it, so i replied you did it 2 days ago |
| 10:47.26 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 10:47.35 | nevcairiel | NivFreak: which 10man actually looks better then the 25? <.< |
| 10:47.42 | Xinhuan | so the only question is to find out why ackis gave that access |
| 10:47.50 | Torhal | Zhinjio: My server is shutting down in 10 minutes. You got screwed. |
| 10:47.52 | nevcairiel | because he didnt care to look |
| 10:50.00 | Zhinjio | mine is too. I have a few minutes left |
| 10:50.06 | Bruners | any of you know about a complete solution to fix the hi5photo worm thats going around at the moment? no, i don't have it myself |
| 10:51.02 | Arrowmaster | theres a new worm? |
| 10:51.30 | Zhinjio | gives Groktar a new worm. |
| 10:52.33 | digmouse | what is warlock summoning exactly looking like now? no meeting stone any more? |
| 10:52.54 | nevcairiel | did they actually get it fixed to work like intended? |
| 10:53.06 | digmouse | GC said they did |
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| 10:53.22 | digmouse | like reverted to what it was in 3.0.3 |
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| 10:54.21 | Arrowmaster | there never was a meeting stone |
| 10:54.25 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: no idea if its new or not |
| 10:54.27 | Arrowmaster | just a stupid 2 minute cooldown |
| 10:54.30 | Chosi | i need questhelper locations for ancients |
| 10:54.33 | Chosi | that would be nice |
| 10:54.37 | Chosi | is there something like that? |
| 10:54.38 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: but it does also hijack wow |
| 10:54.46 | Arrowmaster | Chosi: TourGuide_LunarFestival |
| 10:54.56 | Chosi | awesome |
| 10:54.59 | digmouse | agree |
| 10:55.00 | Chosi | ytmnd |
| 10:55.20 | Torhal | Holy shit. SOmehow I translated that without ever having seen it before. |
| 10:55.53 | digmouse | TourGuide_LunarFestival need translating? |
| 10:55.54 | Kalroth | why the many negative discussions? |
| 10:56.23 | Torhal | digmouse: I was referring to ytmnd |
| 10:56.28 | Torhal | Kalroth: Eh? |
| 10:56.32 | Arrowmaster | digmouse: its english only |
| 10:56.36 | nevcairiel | i cant translate it, enlighten us |
| 10:56.40 | Kalroth | ytmnd = why the many negative discussions! |
| 10:56.48 | Kalroth | (no, you're not the man now, dog) |
| 10:56.49 | Torhal | nevcairiel: You're the man now, dawg. |
| 10:56.55 | digmouse | :( |
| 10:57.05 | nevcairiel | people really say that? |
| 10:57.09 | nevcairiel | US'ians are weird |
| 10:57.10 | Torhal | No idea. |
| 10:57.21 | Kalroth | http://www.ytmnd.com/ |
| 10:57.22 | Torhal | But somehow I knew that's what it meant, despite never seeing it before |
| 10:57.26 | Torhal | That's fucking scary |
| 10:57.28 | Kalroth | you're so behind the timed, nevnev |
| 10:57.32 | Kalroth | times* |
| 10:57.46 | Bruners | im with nevcairiel on this one |
| 10:58.34 | Zhinjio | cries. |
| 10:58.45 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Bwah? |
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| 10:59.11 | Zhinjio | I'm just going through my weekly forgetful crying about maintenance. |
| 10:59.18 | Zhinjio | don't mind me |
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| 11:08.51 | thul | are there any well built netbooks out there? like aliminium or something? |
| 11:09.13 | Bruners | the new macs are built from one alu block arent they ? |
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| 11:12.28 | thul | Bruners: well, they are 13" :/ i would love them to death if they vere 10-11" |
| 11:12.36 | thul | Toshiba Portege R500 is an alternative |
| 11:12.51 | nevcairiel | why do you want such a small one o.O |
| 11:12.57 | Chosi | yeah tourguide could use some locale |
| 11:12.58 | Chosi | :S |
| 11:13.20 | thul | nevcairiel: beacause i'm only going to use it for lecture-notes and travel-stuff |
| 11:14.23 | jnwhiteh | thul: the MSIWind isn't aluminium but it's nice other than that |
| 11:15.25 | Chosi | haha thul sure |
| 11:15.30 | Chosi | that's what i said to myself aswell |
| 11:15.33 | Chosi | lecture notes... |
| 11:15.38 | thul | well, I would have to find one that i can install hackintosh on:P I'm a osx-guy |
| 11:15.45 | thul | Chosi: i got a macbook for everything else :-) |
| 11:15.45 | jnwhiteh | thul: that's why i have the msi wind :P |
| 11:15.54 | jnwhiteh | but if you're going to spend $500ish |
| 11:15.55 | thul | and a full blooded racing horse as a main computer at home. |
| 11:16.02 | jnwhiteh | you should spend $999 and get the plastic macbook |
| 11:16.16 | thul | well, i got a plastic macbook, but that is 13.3" :-P |
| 11:16.21 | thul | i want a smaller one tooo.... |
| 11:16.29 | jnwhiteh | ah, hehe |
| 11:16.37 | jnwhiteh | well i run mac os x on my wind |
| 11:16.46 | jnwhiteh | the only issues are the wifi card (which they released a client for, or you can swap it out) |
| 11:16.55 | jnwhiteh | and possibly the trackpad, if you get sentilic instead of synaptics |
| 11:16.55 | thul | hmm, ok |
| 11:17.01 | thul | maybe i should get a msi wind |
| 11:17.25 | jnwhiteh | I can answer any questions you end up having, I've been through a lot with mine |
| 11:17.35 | jnwhiteh | but look into the Dell, the Samsung and there are a few others worth considering to |
| 11:17.41 | Bruners | >lua string.format(%d,4000/9000*100) |
| 11:17.57 | jnwhiteh | backwards Bruners |
| 11:18.02 | jnwhiteh | lua> string.format(%d,4000/9000*100) |
| 11:18.07 | thul | yeah, been looking a long time :-) trying to find something that is smallish enough to put in a shoulder-camera bag for my trips. |
| 11:18.09 | jnwhiteh | or, luabot isn't here |
| 11:18.19 | nevcairiel | also needs some " " |
| 11:18.20 | thul | I like to pack as low as possible, and keep camera gear as high on the percentage list of luggage as possible :-P |
| 11:18.34 | jnwhiteh | damn freenode |
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| 11:19.07 | Bruners | lua> string.format("%d",4000/9000*100) |
| 11:19.08 | lua_bot | Bruners: An unexpected error occured executing your code |
| 11:19.14 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 11:19.15 | thul | we can only wonder what sb|work and lua_bot have been up to |
| 11:19.18 | thul | coming in at the same time |
| 11:19.29 | thul | lua> import os,sys |
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| 11:19.30 | lua_bot | thul: An unexpected error occured executing your code |
| 11:19.32 | thul | :-( |
| 11:19.36 | Bruners | ok, is that an error in my code or in lua bot ? |
| 11:19.37 | nevcairiel | its not python! |
| 11:19.43 | nevcairiel | lua> hello |
| 11:19.44 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: An unexpected error occured executing your code |
| 11:19.47 | nevcairiel | in the bot |
| 11:20.12 | thul | >require("python") |
| 11:20.35 | thul | >python.execute("import os,sys") |
| 11:20.41 | jnwhiteh | what the hell are you doing? |
| 11:21.02 | thul | having fun, while _not_ reading the material on norwegian prejudicate history i should be doing |
| 11:21.06 | thul | :/ |
| 11:21.44 | thul | and using python inside lua is the only way i can do stuff with lua :-P |
| 11:21.46 | thul | SO THERE YOU GO |
| 11:21.49 | thul | I'll stop now :-( |
| 11:22.05 | nevcairiel | i wonder if there actually are python bindings =P |
| 11:22.11 | nevcairiel | i know there is a lua binding for python |
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| 11:22.40 | thul | http://labix.org/lunatic-python ? |
| 11:22.48 | jnwhiteh | of course there are :P |
| 11:23.04 | jnwhiteh | lua> "fixed" |
| 11:23.05 | nevcairiel | ah its a two way bridge |
| 11:23.05 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: fixed |
| 11:23.06 | nevcairiel | nice |
| 11:23.44 | thul | nevcairiel: i did a major effort to learn python when i was like 15 :-P |
| 11:24.17 | omega_ | http://gist.github.com/53303 <-- I needed to change LibJostle in ChocolateBar like that to get it not to spew an error message when loaded. I think it is that if two addons use the old code or whatnot, but I'm not proficent enough with lua to know where or how to figure it out. That made the error go away at least |
| 11:24.22 | Bruners | lua> string.format("%d",4000/9000*100) |
| 11:24.23 | lua_bot | Bruners: 44 |
| 11:24.43 | thul | lua>require("python") |
| 11:24.43 | lua_bot | thul: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'require' (a nil value) |
| 11:24.59 | thul | lua>string.format("%d",4000.0/9000*100) |
| 11:25.00 | lua_bot | thul: 44 |
| 11:25.02 | thul | hmm |
| 11:25.04 | Fisker- | thul my partner in trolling |
| 11:25.16 | thul | Fisker-: hey there darling! how are you on this blessed day? |
| 11:25.34 | Fisker- | Better than nevcairiel |
| 11:26.11 | thul | that is a given. nevcairiel is not Fisker-, neither is he thul |
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| 11:28.44 | Arrowmaster | omega_: latest alpha shouldnt error |
| 11:28.57 | omega_ | Arrowmaster: latest alpha of? |
| 11:29.04 | Arrowmaster | libjostle-3.0 |
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| 11:30.25 | jnwhiteh | How do I need to name my tag on Curseforge in order to get it to package/push? |
| 11:30.26 | Torhal | Fisker-: Shovel my driveway. |
| 11:30.55 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: anything will package, only difference is beta/release |
| 11:31.07 | jnwhiteh | Okay, this is a release, how do I make that happen |
| 11:31.18 | nevcairiel | ^v?[0-9\.\-_]+$|release|stable |
| 11:31.21 | omega_ | Arrowmaster: how do I make sure all the embeded ones are up to date? |
| 11:31.21 | nevcairiel | match that regex |
| 11:31.24 | Torhal | Just tag with numbers, optionally starting with "v" |
| 11:31.59 | Arrowmaster | omega_: if you just install it from www.wowace.com/projects/libjostle-3-0 it should fix it |
| 11:32.11 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: can I do v1.0-r113-release? |
| 11:32.13 | jnwhiteh | or some shit like that? |
| 11:32.18 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 11:32.28 | nevcairiel | mention the word release or stable, and it will definately be release |
| 11:32.29 | omega_ | Arrowmaster: ok, so just install it as an addon by it self? |
| 11:32.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 11:32.44 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: so I can just do r199-release? |
| 11:32.49 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 11:33.03 | jnwhiteh | fuck you curse.com =( |
| 11:33.16 | Fisker- | " just like there are situations where a Holy paladin has an advantage over a shaman." <-but not priests or druids |
| 11:33.17 | Fisker- | lolol |
| 11:33.26 | jnwhiteh | I was promised when putting Clique there that I would be emailed when I received a file comment |
| 11:33.29 | jnwhiteh | of course, this doesn't fucking happen |
| 11:33.35 | jnwhiteh | which means my addons go unsupported. |
| 11:33.53 | nevcairiel | alternatively you could just edit one of your alpha files and mark it release, but shrug .) |
| 11:34.14 | Arrowmaster | thats what i do =d |
| 11:34.31 | jnwhiteh | well how do alpha files get packaged? |
| 11:34.40 | nevcairiel | trunk commits |
| 11:35.00 | Fisker- | Whatcha gonna do with all that junk inside that trunk |
| 11:35.01 | jnwhiteh | even on a sync-ed repo? |
| 11:35.08 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 11:35.10 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 11:35.19 | jnwhiteh | I am so pissed off about this curse thing. |
| 11:35.43 | Arrowmaster | its all ckknight's fault |
| 11:35.43 | nevcairiel | apparently not on sync'ed repos |
| 11:36.06 | Fisker- | i fully support any initiative to blame ckknight |
| 11:36.12 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: it did when I synced it |
| 11:36.14 | jnwhiteh | its awaiting approval |
| 11:36.25 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 11:36.47 | nevcairiel | there you go |
| 11:37.02 | nevcairiel | i approved it |
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| 11:37.28 | nevcairiel | hm yeah right, synced repos need approval, we don't have our hooks checking the content |
| 11:37.53 | jnwhiteh | okay now that's a release file |
| 11:38.27 | nevcairiel | usually takes 5-10 mins then it should be on curse |
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| 11:39.32 | nevcairiel | and yell at kaelten again for the email issue |
| 11:39.40 | nevcairiel | he'll know who to forward the yell too |
| 11:39.41 | nevcairiel | -o |
| 11:39.49 | jnwhiteh | I'll just bug Hubert |
| 11:39.52 | jnwhiteh | he's the one who promised me |
| 11:39.55 | jnwhiteh | four years ago |
| 11:40.00 | Xinhuan | meanwhile you can bookmark your curse page lol |
| 11:40.21 | nevcairiel | the curse page has changed alot in the last four years, lol |
| 11:40.26 | nevcairiel | @curse clique |
| 11:40.28 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/clique.aspx |
| 11:40.30 | jnwhiteh | I know it has |
| 11:40.37 | jnwhiteh | but I was promised that they would email me when I got a new comment |
| 11:40.42 | nevcairiel | ah your file arrived |
| 11:40.48 | jnwhiteh | That was one of my many stipulations of posting an addon there. |
| 11:40.50 | jnwhiteh | and now.. |
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| 11:43.57 | Arrowmaster | or you could just disable comments on curse |
| 11:47.09 | jnwhiteh | then no one comments |
| 11:47.10 | jnwhiteh | that's even worse |
| 11:47.17 | Zhinjio | well, I resisted facebook as long as I could. |
| 11:47.20 | jnwhiteh | it should fucking work |
| 11:47.23 | Zhinjio | cries some more. |
| 11:49.04 | Fisker- | come on |
| 11:49.09 | Fisker- | we have more important shit to deal with |
| 11:49.18 | Fisker- | like Zhinjio using facebook |
| 11:49.26 | Fisker- | we can't let facebook ruin the world |
| 11:50.15 | Fisker- | Only thing i hate more than facebook is myspace |
| 11:50.16 | Fisker- | >3 |
| 11:50.17 | Zhinjio | yeah! |
| 11:50.18 | Fisker- | :3 |
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| 11:52.59 | jnwhiteh | and there's no comments RSS feed |
| 11:53.00 | jnwhiteh | sad =/ |
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| 12:05.41 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Curse itself is woefully inadequate in many areas. I'd like to know who to contact about a few things, because all I get from Kaelten is "I'm not in that department. Sorry." |
| 12:05.57 | jnwhiteh | I just tell the owner of the company |
| 12:05.58 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 12:05.59 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 12:06.06 | jnwhiteh | He's the one who wanted my addons on there |
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| 12:07.12 | Torhal | One of my peeves is the "Downloads Today: 36"...when my latest version is the only one that's been out today and has 10 downloads. |
| 12:07.20 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 12:07.56 | nevcairiel | maybe someone downloaded the old version befoer you pushed it? :) |
| 12:07.58 | Fisker- | your previous versions haven't been out? |
| 12:08.00 | Grum | Torhal: there might be a difference between downloads from the site, downloads with the client |
| 12:08.10 | Fisker- | highfives nevcairiel |
| 12:08.17 | Torhal | Well, it's been saying 35 downloads "for the day" for weeks now. |
| 12:08.22 | Torhal | Today, it says 36 |
| 12:08.33 | nevcairiel | your addon is mighty popular |
| 12:08.37 | Fisker- | >D |
| 12:08.39 | Fisker- | :D |
| 12:08.42 | Torhal | It was at 35 before the 10 downloads of the new version |
| 12:08.48 | Torhal | Now it's at 36 |
| 12:08.50 | Torhal | Heh |
| 12:08.57 | Fisker- | sounds weird |
| 12:09.05 | Megalon | Fisker- downloaded it 10 times |
| 12:09.08 | Torhal | Haha |
| 12:09.12 | Fisker- | but you know how computers get along with numbers |
| 12:09.17 | Megalon | downloads by Fisker- only count as 1/10th |
| 12:09.21 | Fisker- | >* |
| 12:09.23 | Fisker- | :( |
| 12:09.34 | Grum | they actually count negative |
| 12:09.41 | Grum | anything Fisker- should not be liked |
| 12:09.44 | Grum | +likes |
| 12:09.58 | Shot | My "downloads today" figures always seem reasonable |
| 12:10.04 | Fisker- | case in point, i like you Grum |
| 12:10.07 | Shot | I put up a new version, downloads increase that day |
| 12:10.27 | Grum | i should not be liked; i dont mind that :) |
| 12:10.27 | Fisker- | perhaps their internal servers also count as downloads? :P |
| 12:10.47 | Grum | even better; less people around me the better |
| 12:11.11 | Fisker- | yeah |
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| 12:11.16 | Fisker- | i can't browse 4chan here |
| 12:11.21 | Fisker- | total pain |
| 12:11.31 | Grum | lol you have a fiskerfilter? |
| 12:11.36 | Fisker- | nah |
| 12:11.41 | Fisker- | but normal people here |
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| 12:12.04 | Fisker- | Shouldn't let that "weird guy" turn into a "weird guy with a restraining order" |
| 12:13.02 | Wraithan | What do y'all use for addon dev |
| 12:13.29 | Wraithan | Looking for something that can handle projects and stuff, currently I just use Crimson Editor but the projects in that are lacking to say the least |
| 12:14.08 | Grum | projects? |
| 12:14.14 | Grum | its just 3-4 files |
| 12:15.19 | Wraithan | Some are larger, I am working on ShockAndAwe, 8 lua files, a couple xml files, and all the localization files |
| 12:15.42 | Wraithan | Would be nice to have an editor with project support for that, just makes things easier to me |
| 12:15.51 | Grum | xml files? :D |
| 12:16.22 | Torhal | The only "WoW IDE" I know of is insanely out of date API-wise, and doesn't generate good code for its "visual" interface. |
| 12:16.26 | Torhal | And yes, XML files? |
| 12:16.57 | Torhal | Bah, gotta get ready for work. Assuming I even go considering there's 3-4 inches of snow on the ground. |
| 12:17.41 | Wraithan | Granted the xml files are just stuff like embeds, and some stuff for bindings |
| 12:20.56 | thul | http://jpgmn.deviantart.com/art/Bridge-To-Neverland-107002536 <- i like that pic |
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| 12:21.37 | nevcairiel | that would make a good poster or something |
| 12:22.02 | thul | agreed |
| 12:24.25 | sb|work | nice one thul |
| 12:24.39 | sb|work | did you take it? |
| 12:25.10 | thul | nopes, not me :-) |
| 12:25.15 | thul | I'm cainadamsson.deviant...etc. |
| 12:25.20 | thul | that guy is good though :-) |
| 12:27.01 | Kalroth | man, three wow based channels discussing furry at the same time, what are the odds |
| 12:27.26 | Kalroth | oh nm, that isn't furry, I just assumed since it was deviantart.com |
| 12:27.39 | Bruners | furry? |
| 12:28.03 | Kalroth | I can't elaborate, sorry |
| 12:28.10 | Kalroth | nevcairiel would kill me |
| 12:28.28 | thul | I'm... |
| 12:28.31 | thul | no comment. |
| 12:28.58 | Shot | if you don't know what furry is, you're doing better than the rest of us. |
| 12:30.45 | Fisker- | YIFF IN HELL |
| 12:31.09 | Kalroth | Fisker is a true yiffer |
| 12:31.13 | Fisker- | yay |
| 12:31.17 | Fisker- | patch tomorrow |
| 12:31.46 | sb|work | Fisker-: SOURCE??? |
| 12:33.57 | robotusch | sauce?! |
| 12:34.09 | robotusch | .. no sauce, no white kitty |
| 12:34.15 | Kalroth | ~wowpatch |
| 12:34.16 | purl | well, wowpatchmirror is http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_mirrors |
| 12:34.40 | Kalroth | not that, silly purl! |
| 12:35.34 | Fisker- | http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt |
| 12:36.10 | robotusch | :? |
| 12:36.23 | Fisker- | 9464=WoW-3.0.8.9464-3.0.8.9506-{CPU}-{OS}-{LANG} |
| 12:37.16 | Megalon | Fisker- is t3h h4xx0r |
| 12:37.26 | Tinyboom | huh, do we have a patch incoming tomorrow? |
| 12:37.26 | Fisker- | Also |
| 12:37.32 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 12:37.39 | Tinyboom | nerf patch? :p |
| 12:37.44 | Fisker- | since GC said some tooltip bugs(clientside only) would be fixed it's kinda obvious |
| 12:37.45 | Fisker- | etc. |
| 12:38.06 | sb|work | Fisker-: mh no new version? |
| 12:38.09 | sb|work | thats strange |
| 12:38.16 | Fisker- | ? |
| 12:38.19 | Kalroth | uhm, yes there is |
| 12:38.20 | robotusch | that's fisker for you |
| 12:38.32 | Kalroth | 3.0.8 = 9464 |
| 12:38.37 | Kalroth | CurrentBuild=9506 |
| 12:38.51 | Fisker- | i wonder what they did in those 42 builds :O |
| 12:39.01 | Kalroth | fix tooltips |
| 12:39.10 | Fisker- | seems kinda major for a small patch like that |
| 12:39.20 | sb|work | fix warlock port |
| 12:39.24 | Fisker- | it's over 9000 revisions |
| 12:39.31 | sb|work | uhm... yes it is |
| 12:40.31 | Fisker- | Some from a known developer group posted this on our message boards: "He doesn't forgive, he does not forget, his svn has over 9000 revisions" |
| 12:40.58 | Fisker- | and they're all halting the developement proccess |
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| 12:51.32 | Megalon | Fisker-: did you try to start the backgrounddownloader? |
| 12:51.38 | Megalon | nice chunk it wants to dl for me ;> |
| 12:52.06 | nevcairiel | 5.59 GB |
| 12:52.10 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 12:52.19 | Megalon | :) |
| 12:52.32 | Megalon | it downloads a whole wow installer |
| 12:52.33 | Megalon | :C |
| 12:52.52 | nevcairiel | but but why |
| 12:53.19 | Megalon | someone fucked things up ;o |
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| 12:59.03 | Fisker- | i lol'd |
| 12:59.10 | Fisker- | and i'm not us Megalon so no |
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| 13:05.43 | Zhinjio | if anyone actually uses facebook and would care to be added to my list, /msg me... |
| 13:06.10 | Arrowmaster | blizz post anything about the background downloader? |
| 13:06.31 | jnwhiteh | Zhinjio: only if you're going to play Dungeons & Dragons Tiny Adventures :P |
| 13:06.48 | jnwhiteh | http://apps.facebook.com/tinyadventures =) |
| 13:07.24 | Arrowmaster | wtf is this baddons.wcf |
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| 13:07.53 | jnwhiteh | Whats it have in it? |
| 13:07.55 | Arrowmaster | i have a WDB folder in my wow dir |
| 13:08.03 | Arrowmaster | and it has a baddons.wcf in it |
| 13:08.08 | nevcairiel | yeah i got that too |
| 13:08.09 | Megalon | lol |
| 13:08.10 | Arrowmaster | its a binary file |
| 13:08.10 | Megalon | wtf |
| 13:08.11 | nevcairiel | its new or something |
| 13:08.23 | Megalon | IT'S TEH H4XX0RS |
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| 13:08.32 | Megalon | stealin your accounts :/ |
| 13:08.34 | jnwhiteh | dunno |
| 13:08.43 | jnwhiteh | something blizzard did |
| 13:08.45 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 13:08.58 | Arrowmaster | well we already know they broke the background downloader |
| 13:09.10 | Arrowmaster | seriously somebody is slacking at blizz |
| 13:09.27 | jnwhiteh | well i doubt they're related |
| 13:09.28 | Arrowmaster | so many problems recently |
| 13:09.37 | jnwhiteh | seems to have something to do with addons |
| 13:09.38 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 13:09.42 | Fisker- | WCF = Warcraft Crap File? |
| 13:09.42 | jnwhiteh | I'm sure we'll find out |
| 13:09.53 | Megalon | Warcraft Craps Fisker- |
| 13:09.54 | Megalon | file |
| 13:09.59 | Fisker- | ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 13:10.19 | Megalon | all to easy |
| 13:10.44 | Fisker- | you're mean :( |
| 13:11.15 | Megalon | i'm a trollhunter! |
| 13:11.37 | Arrowmaster | im gona go back to watching Rome |
| 13:13.20 | sb|work | hm Arrowmaster - there is a bluepost |
| 13:13.26 | Arrowmaster | linky |
| 13:13.34 | sb|work | cant, forum broken |
| 13:13.39 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 13:13.46 | Arrowmaster | what section |
| 13:13.50 | sb|work | try http://www.google.de/search?q=baddons.wcf&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a |
| 13:13.58 | sb|work | 4th result |
| 13:14.02 | sb|work | "World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> WDB folder? |
| 13:14.04 | sb|work | that one |
| 13:14.09 | sb|work | google cache works |
| 13:15.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah WDB existed in 1.x but then they moved it to Cache\WDB |
| 13:15.46 | Arrowmaster | but why is it back |
| 13:15.56 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: Wrong SVN merge? |
| 13:16.03 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 13:16.15 | Arrowmaster | 3.0.8 was a cluster fuck of a patch anyway |
| 13:16.17 | nevcairiel | still didnt say what the file does |
| 13:16.17 | jnwhiteh | depends |
| 13:16.24 | jnwhiteh | can the Cache\WDB folder be altered? |
| 13:16.25 | Arrowmaster | and they probably use CVS |
| 13:16.29 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 13:16.37 | jnwhiteh | the use SVN, actually :P |
| 13:16.39 | jnwhiteh | they told us that once :p |
| 13:16.40 | nevcairiel | CVS doesnt have a global build number |
| 13:16.42 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 13:16.59 | nevcairiel | no wonder they mess up patch merges once in a while |
| 13:17.02 | nevcairiel | its a PITA with svn |
| 13:17.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:17.06 | Arrowmaster | once in a while? |
| 13:17.08 | Bruners | Fisker-: the downloader starts to download for eu as well |
| 13:17.09 | Arrowmaster | they do it quite often |
| 13:17.14 | Kalroth | I hate SVN with more than 2 branches |
| 13:17.16 | nevcairiel | we only get patches once in a while |
| 13:17.20 | Kalroth | and they probably got a ton |
| 13:17.33 | Arrowmaster | yes but bug fix regression happens a lot |
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| 13:20.15 | Fisker- | background downloader isn't starting here |
| 13:20.51 | Megalon | start it manually |
| 13:20.57 | Megalon | and it starts downloading |
| 13:21.24 | Megalon | it does not when you just start the launcher |
| 13:21.47 | Fisker- | no problem then :P |
| 13:22.01 | Fisker- | using software in an unsupported manner etc. |
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| 13:23.15 | Megalon | starting an executable is 'unsupported manner'? |
| 13:23.40 | Fisker- | That's what a blizzard rep would say and you know it |
| 13:24.08 | Megalon | nope, a blizzard rep would say |
| 13:24.13 | Megalon | delete your WTF folder |
| 13:24.17 | Megalon | ;\ |
| 13:25.13 | Bruners | did you guys know that the mechanical robots in karazhan explode with corpse explosion? |
| 13:26.11 | SunTsu | Bruners: I didn't even know there were mechanical robots in Karazhan |
| 13:26.24 | Megalon | the big ones, on the way to aran |
| 13:26.49 | Megalon | at least they look like mechanical robots ;o |
| 13:26.49 | SunTsu | Ah, die Kurator-types |
| 13:26.53 | SunTsu | s/die/the/ |
| 13:27.10 | Megalon | yea, probably a wrong set flag, like in occulus |
| 13:27.26 | Megalon | where you could skin those mobs :C |
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| 13:58.28 | Bruners | ooh new curse client |
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| 13:58.40 | sb|work | new? |
| 13:58.55 | sb|work | the one with fancy icons? |
| 13:59.03 | Kalroth | new mage icons, yeah |
| 13:59.03 | sb|work | 2.1 whatever |
| 13:59.27 | Bruners | just got a message that it was updating itself |
| 14:00.31 | mitch0 | will a cursed lizard corpse cure stoning? |
| 14:00.43 | mitch0 | damn. ECHAN again, sorry ;) |
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| 14:08.03 | fatbrain | curseclient crashes on my computer |
| 14:08.16 | fatbrain | then again, it is beta |
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| 14:21.57 | Mikk | I seriously still do not get this... our guild consistently does top1000ish fights in nax25. But our 4H fights are always top100. And now we did 29/31747 on 4H. |
| 14:22.32 | Mikk | Is bloody everyone just using wrong tactics? |
| 14:22.49 | Pneumatus | do you split dps across all 4 horses? |
| 14:22.51 | Mikk | no |
| 14:23.01 | Mikk | Just pile on them one by one in order. |
| 14:23.06 | nevcairiel | do your melees go full out on the casters? |
| 14:23.10 | Mikk | Yes. |
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| 14:23.18 | nevcairiel | ours are too scared =P |
| 14:23.19 | Pneumatus | do you only take like 5 healers? |
| 14:23.24 | Mikk | About 5 yes |
| 14:23.30 | selckin | wws is buggy. |
| 14:23.34 | selckin | specially the splitter |
| 14:24.15 | Mikk | Yeah but the amount of damage is consistent |
| 14:24.21 | Chompers | have you tried splitting dps on the front two? |
| 14:24.21 | Pneumatus | we were 6 seconds off 3min patchwerk this week :< |
| 14:24.26 | Chompers | they swapping every 3 stacks |
| 14:24.35 | Mikk | Why would we split dps on the front 2? |
| 14:24.37 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: we managed to pull 1s off <.< |
| 14:24.37 | Grum | Chompers: that is way slower |
| 14:24.42 | Mikk | Just pile on them with hero up and they die. |
| 14:24.47 | Grum | just heroism-rape them |
| 14:24.56 | Chompers | oh, i might try this this reset then |
| 14:25.01 | Chompers | sounds interestin |
| 14:25.02 | Chompers | g |
| 14:25.06 | Mikk | Easy if nothing else |
| 14:25.19 | Mikk | So yeah ok I guess that explains it if people are splitting dps and not getting benefit from auras and whatnot. |
| 14:25.21 | Pneumatus | thats the only way you can get away with fewer healers anyway |
| 14:25.23 | selckin | kill metoer one first, dies ~ 3 stacks, go kill the other one, dies at 4 stacks |
| 14:25.29 | selckin | even if you're slow |
| 14:25.43 | Mikk | Then diagonally across the room |
| 14:25.49 | Mikk | You want the holy chainlightning guy last |
| 14:25.53 | Mikk | Cause someone dies :P |
| 14:26.03 | Pneumatus | we tend to do the achievement every week, and split dps over all 4 |
| 14:26.15 | Grum | that also works easily indeed :) |
| 14:26.21 | Grum | 10m and that achievement is quite hard :) |
| 14:26.31 | Pneumatus | nah |
| 14:26.42 | Pneumatus | but you do need 3 healers |
| 14:26.48 | Grum | we did it with 2 :( |
| 14:26.50 | Pneumatus | rather than the usual 2 |
| 14:26.54 | quiescens | you could do 2 if you really want |
| 14:27.15 | Pneumatus | 1 healer alone on the 2 front tanks would be a nightmare, not to mention the chance of getting 1shotted from meteor |
| 14:27.22 | Grum | yeah |
| 14:27.25 | quiescens | 1 healer on the front tanks is easy |
| 14:27.31 | quiescens | meteor has a maximum range of 20y |
| 14:27.32 | Grum | atm we're headbutting the sart10+3 :( |
| 14:27.38 | Grum | man that fight is AWRRRGG |
| 14:27.43 | Mikk | sarth+3 is nofun |
| 14:27.48 | Mikk | 10man |
| 14:27.49 | quiescens | so you just run in between marks and heal |
| 14:27.52 | quiescens | and then run back out |
| 14:28.05 | Grum | quiescens: and get instagibbed by meteors :p |
| 14:28.10 | quiescens | meteor has a maximum range of 20y |
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| 14:29.22 | sacarasc | Mikk: Yeah, it's too easy, isn't it? |
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| 14:30.22 | Grum | sacarasc: on 10m? not easy at all :) |
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| 14:51.44 | Pneumatus | anyone know of a broker version of SkillsPlusFu that actually tracks trade cooldowns reliably? |
| 14:54.03 | doom0r | does Zhinjio's track trade skills reliably? |
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| 14:55.01 | Pneumatus | i tried using it a while back and it kept randomly forgetting about some of them, although that could be fixed now |
| 14:55.03 | SunTsu | doom0r: Unfortunately not. Sometimes it forgets cooldowns and I have to refresh it's memory |
| 14:55.43 | Pneumatus | SkillsPlusFu suffers the same problem |
| 14:56.30 | doom0r | i can't recall ever seeing anything besides that that's ldb |
| 14:56.45 | doom0r | seems like something people don't wanna mess with |
| 14:57.13 | doom0r | having to know how too many things happen simultaneously is not a common trait |
| 14:57.22 | doom0r | ;x |
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| 14:58.17 | doom0r | i need to learn how fubarplugin/ldb work |
| 14:58.24 | Kaelten | hey guys looking for feedback/bugs on the new client that went out last night |
| 14:58.47 | Pneumatus | seems even quicker than the last version |
| 14:58.49 | ckknight | Kaelten: omg crashes! |
| 14:58.52 | Pneumatus | thats about all i've noticed so far |
| 14:58.59 | Kaelten | ckknight: :P slacker |
| 14:59.09 | ckknight | yea, I should come in |
| 14:59.10 | Pneumatus | oh, and the icons got a transparent background! |
| 14:59.18 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: we fixed a lot of small bugs mainly, |
| 14:59.20 | Pneumatus | no more dirty grey mismatching |
| 14:59.24 | Kaelten | this is more or less the rc |
| 14:59.59 | Zenom | Kaelten: mac client? :) |
| 15:00.12 | Pneumatus | i still fel like the "Manage Games" section could be re-written to make it more understandable |
| 15:00.27 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: I agree |
| 15:01.14 | Pneumatus | and the "News" section im guessing hasn't had much attention as it still the same old weirdly formatted list |
| 15:01.35 | doom0r | rc, heh |
| 15:01.42 | doom0r | how long was wine .99? |
| 15:01.52 | doom0r | hides |
| 15:02.06 | Pneumatus | and something really needs to be done about the descriptions for addons, at the very least strip their TOCs from their main pages, but ideally allow authors to specify a separate short description page specifically for the CC |
| 15:02.15 | Chompers | software can never really be final, can it |
| 15:02.26 | Pneumatus | some addons with big TOCs just end up listing the toc in the addon description |
| 15:02.31 | Kaelten | heh |
| 15:02.32 | Kaelten | true |
| 15:02.58 | ckknight | Zenom: give us a Mac developer |
| 15:02.59 | ckknight | kthx |
| 15:03.09 | Zenom | ckknight: thought you guys had one. |
| 15:03.13 | ckknight | nope |
| 15:03.29 | Kaelten | WTB, 1 C++ developer with Mac experiance |
| 15:03.34 | Zenom | Interesting, I bought a cocoa book but thats about it..... |
| 15:03.35 | Kaelten | pst |
| 15:03.36 | Chompers | can't keep all 3 of the mac users waiting for a new mac client can we |
| 15:03.43 | Pneumatus | RatingBuster in the CC for example just has a wash of TOC for the description and not a single line actually describing the addon |
| 15:03.50 | Zenom | Chompers: there are a lot of mac users, I think you would be surprised. |
| 15:04.15 | ckknight | also, if we don't support mac, then _all_ mac users will use something else |
| 15:04.17 | ckknight | :P |
| 15:04.18 | Kaelten | Zenom: there are more than some think, but it's still only ~ 5% |
| 15:04.28 | Zenom | Kaelten: yeah don't doubt that. |
| 15:04.37 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: i guess you know that the links inside the CC _still_ point to invalid URLs, right? :P |
| 15:04.52 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: yep, the addon service hasn't been deployed |
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| 15:05.25 | Kaelten | all that traffic is going out over a connection here at work |
| 15:05.27 | Kaelten | lol |
| 15:05.28 | Pneumatus | cursebeta.com, etc |
| 15:06.04 | doom0r | ok, wtf |
| 15:06.09 | Kaelten | ? |
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| 15:06.29 | doom0r | now they don't show full patchnotes in the updater, and they launch ie, instead of the user set browser |
| 15:06.48 | Pneumatus | Kaelten: will the only difference between normal and premium be the "Update All" button is omitted? |
| 15:06.48 | Kaelten | oh, wow wtf, ok, not me |
| 15:06.58 | Kaelten | Pneumatus: something like that |
| 15:07.14 | nevcairiel | and ads i guess |
| 15:07.19 | doom0r | lol @ Kaelten |
| 15:07.53 | Pneumatus | and auto-updating i guess |
| 15:11.21 | doom0r | sighs |
| 15:11.33 | doom0r | first 265 jobs listed on chicago jobs are from allstate and 2 hospitals |
| 15:12.25 | doom0r | then there's 5 listings, and it start over on an earlier day =\ |
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| 15:14.45 | Arrowmaster | blizz needs to learn from vista UAC |
| 15:15.00 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck does the updater always ask for shutdown rights |
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| 15:20.01 | Tinyboom | Kaelten: any major changes or just bugfixes in new CC? and any chance we will have the update changelog that WAU had, with commits since last update for each addon? |
| 15:20.29 | Tinyboom | and is there anyone else having major trouble running non embedded libs? |
| 15:20.29 | nevcairiel | it depends on the author what they show in the changelog |
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| 15:20.47 | nevcairiel | by default it should show a log from the repository |
| 15:21.07 | steev | anyone know of an addon that tracks the cd on master of shadows (rez as a ghoul as unhol dk) |
| 15:21.20 | Tinyboom | yes, but when you did an update in WAU you got the commit logs in the summary... |
| 15:21.35 | Arrowmaster | CC is not WAU |
| 15:21.46 | nevcairiel | I thought it could show a changelog |
| 15:21.51 | Tinyboom | i know, but that's a feature that would be nice |
| 15:21.52 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 15:21.54 | steev | it can |
| 15:22.42 | Tinyboom | I like knowing what has changed in the addons I update. |
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| 15:23.06 | steev | Tinyboom: don't have it auto update, read the changelog before you update |
| 15:25.02 | Tinyboom | I don't have autoupdate, and doing it manually per addon sucks when you have 10 addons to update when you could have a summary after you update, could even just be a setting to turn it on... no need for it to be default. |
| 15:25.04 | Pneumatus | CC doesnt let you view the changelog before you update though, thats one of my gripes :P |
| 15:25.14 | Tinyboom | that's also a point... |
| 15:25.25 | Pneumatus | if an update is available and you view the changelog, it only shows you the changelog up to the version you have installed |
| 15:25.50 | steev | Pneumatus: ahh, didn't realize that |
| 15:25.58 | steev | file a bug :) |
| 15:26.05 | steev | bug/enhancement |
| 15:26.07 | Pneumatus | Kaelten|away is aware of it |
| 15:28.12 | steev | sadly, i like the new look of the patcher |
| 15:28.16 | steev | im like ooh shiny |
| 15:28.59 | steev | http://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoW/patcher.png |
| 15:29.50 | steev | that is the one thats split out from the launcher |
| 15:30.04 | steev | crud, thats actually the downloader :/ |
| 15:30.36 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 15:32.24 | steev | so, aside from "always run to your right" and "don't be retarded" - anyone have any advice for 10 man thaddius? |
| 15:32.52 | gix | what's the problem? |
| 15:32.52 | quiescens | watch your charge o.o |
| 15:33.09 | steev | gix: we can't down him :-P |
| 15:33.32 | steev | our best attempt is like 66%, and that was with losing *2* healers at the beginning (we take 3) |
| 15:33.36 | Tinyboom | if anyone agree with me votes would be nice :) http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/56-updated-addon-commit-summary/ |
| 15:33.38 | Hjalte | steev: Tell your most retarded raiders to download a boss mod or another addon that makes a sound when the polarity changes. And ask them not to lag. |
| 15:34.04 | Pneumatus | any of you lot play raid disc priest? :P |
| 15:34.21 | quiescens | all you can really do is try to find a way to ensure people check their charge after every polarity shift |
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| 15:34.46 | steev | just wanting to make sure |
| 15:34.54 | steev | some people do neg | thad | pos |
| 15:35.00 | steev | we do it pos | thad | neg |
| 15:35.04 | steev | is there any difference? |
| 15:35.16 | Pneumatus | Rawr is suggesting that T7.5 shadowpriest gloves are far superior to any others for FH disc raiding |
| 15:36.07 | Hjalte | steev: None at all. Just stay to the left and run swiftly. Make sure no-one is standing too close to the boss, but that's hardly a problem for us at least. |
| 15:36.39 | steev | Hjalte: honestly, i dont' think i personally am gonna go in there for a while |
| 15:36.49 | steev | im tired of being raid leader |
| 15:36.56 | doom0r | heh |
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| 15:37.05 | doom0r | i got tired of raid/guild leading a couple years ago |
| 15:37.07 | quiescens | and the cycle continues |
| 15:37.15 | steev | im not even guild leader and everyone looks up to me like i am |
| 15:37.17 | Hjalte | I get tired of bad leaders. |
| 15:37.35 | quiescens | are you offering to lead? |
| 15:37.42 | steev | no |
| 15:37.46 | quiescens | not you |
| 15:37.47 | quiescens | lol |
| 15:37.47 | Hjalte | I am. |
| 15:38.02 | steev | but no one else takes the initiative to research the fights or some shit |
| 15:38.05 | quiescens | thats okay then~ |
| 15:38.08 | steev | so im stuck explaining each one as best i can |
| 15:38.19 | steev | my dk gets invited to 25 mans all the time |
| 15:38.30 | steev | hell i've been an OT on 25man patch |
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| 15:38.43 | steev | (and im not a tank) |
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| 15:38.59 | gix | that's already wrong. people should study that themselves. either by known sources, or setup a thread in your guild forum! |
| 15:39.13 | steev | gix: thread is setup |
| 15:39.23 | quiescens | I doubt if more than like 10-15% of guilds |
| 15:39.26 | steev | there are ~25 views.... and no responses/questions |
| 15:39.44 | steev | we also run with another guild |
| 15:39.52 | quiescens | can actually go into a fight and go "okay, everyone has already read up on this beforehand, any specific questions that don't involve reading out the whole strat" |
| 15:39.58 | steev | they usually bring 2-4, we bring 6-8 |
| 15:40.15 | doom0r | steev: been there, had a guild like that, don't burn yourself out, just move on |
| 15:40.35 | thul | our guild was like that |
| 15:40.36 | gix | hah, i remember back then for 40man naxx. teaching two thirds of the guild thaddius movement with an addon in ironforge. :P |
| 15:40.39 | steev | doom0r: im more annoyed at the fact that they (the other guild) insisted on waiting for their tank |
| 15:40.51 | steev | she finally gets on an hour after she said she'd be on |
| 15:41.01 | steev | we did 3 attempts and she says she's done for the night |
| 15:41.14 | Megalon | bitchslap her |
| 15:41.24 | quiescens | its all well and good in theorycraft land where you can assume the players know about the fight ahead of time so you only have to talk about specific things like who's healing who, or specifically who's killing adds etc |
| 15:41.31 | steev | so far we've got arachnid quarter |
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| 15:41.45 | steev | noth, and up to thaddius |
| 15:42.03 | quiescens | but I think in practice, most players won't read up regardless |
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| 15:42.27 | steev | Megalon: you have no idea how hard i wanted to |
| 15:42.47 | quiescens | we were doing 4 horsemen earlier today, 2 healers 2 tanks, standard drill |
| 15:42.53 | quiescens | one of the tanks managed to get up to 11 marks |
| 15:42.55 | quiescens | before dying |
| 15:42.59 | steev | considering we had an awesome tank and a healer who were pugs who were willing to go (as it was we had to have our enh shaman respec resto and pug a dps) |
| 15:43.05 | quiescens | even though they were swapped out |
| 15:43.11 | steev | because by the time we waited on their tank to get on, it was too late for our hunter |
| 15:43.12 | quiescens | they just, didn't actually run far enough to get out of range |
| 15:44.28 | quiescens | left to their own devices people do stupid things~ |
| 15:44.45 | doom0r | steev: when we fell apart a few years ago, we started running with 10-20 people and taking the rest of pugs |
| 15:44.53 | quiescens | if it helps, have someone yell "polarity shift" immediately after each shift or something |
| 15:44.55 | doom0r | we cleared faster than when we ran as a full guild |
| 15:44.57 | thul | steev: you should pug me :-P |
| 15:44.57 | quiescens | lol |
| 15:45.07 | steev | thul: i would... if you were on Draka US |
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| 15:45.21 | steev | im just sick of all the emo shit that goes on |
| 15:45.28 | steev | and then after the 3 attempts |
| 15:45.29 | quiescens | I'm mostly the opposite to that |
| 15:45.32 | thul | steev:/ that could be a problem :-P |
| 15:45.35 | doom0r | drop the people that don't wanna be there |
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| 15:45.37 | quiescens | I'd rather we stop trying to run 25mans |
| 15:45.39 | doom0r | pug it |
| 15:45.43 | quiescens | and just do 10man groups with no pugs |
| 15:45.43 | steev | the mage in the other guild |
| 15:45.51 | thul | i could off-tank (crit-immune, finally :-P ) or dps (dk :-P ) |
| 15:45.53 | quiescens | but everyone else wants their fancy 25man loots |
| 15:46.17 | steev | sends me a tell saying they aren't gonna run anymore until our tank (who is *offtanking* so rarely actually needed) isn't at 540 def - he's at 527 so with flask = uncrittable |
| 15:46.31 | sacarasc | I prefer 10 mans myself... My computer fails in 25 man raids |
| 15:46.31 | steev | er - s/isn't/is/ |
| 15:46.57 | quiescens | what problem is that of the mage? |
| 15:46.58 | doom0r | mine shouldn't, but wow eats it somehow =\ |
| 15:47.06 | thul | I'm at 538 now, with flask = safe. |
| 15:47.13 | steev | quiescens: "too much strain on healer" |
| 15:47.19 | quiescens | I don't see any good excuse for dps to complain about tanks gear? |
| 15:47.41 | steev | thul: i can wear 2 dps pieces with more stam than my def gear (epic vs. rare) and still be 541 |
| 15:47.46 | quiescens | I mean, if a healer was complaining then you could at least see their reasoning, even if its because they don't understand or what not |
| 15:47.53 | Arrowmaster | was the offtank using flasks when needing to tank? |
| 15:47.56 | steev | quiescens: his wife was one of the healers |
| 15:48.04 | steev | Arrowmaster: i don't know - i didn't check buffs |
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| 15:48.22 | doom0r | oh, god, bring your wife crap drives me nuts |
| 15:48.33 | steev | tbh i was sick of dealing with all the shit beforehand |
| 15:48.46 | doom0r | several friends of mine, the brother of the gm brings his wife |
| 15:48.50 | steev | doom0r: we have a husband/wife in our guild too |
| 15:48.50 | doom0r | hunter with 1500 dps |
| 15:48.55 | steev | and i hate it |
| 15:49.02 | doom0r | it's fine if they actually play |
| 15:49.04 | steev | cuz one of em logs means they both have to log |
| 15:49.05 | thul | hmm, emo guilds ftw. |
| 15:49.12 | krka | stop bringing my wife crap then! |
| 15:49.16 | doom0r | used to have a chick that joined with her husband and owned his ass all day |
| 15:49.21 | thul | I prefer all male, 20-30 years old, same time zone guilds. |
| 15:49.24 | Arrowmaster | the tank coming an hour late and then only doing 3 attempts then leaving would have made me tell their entire guild to fuck off not raiding together anymore |
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| 15:49.53 | quiescens | oh boy |
| 15:49.55 | kadrahil | so i made out with 3 pieces of T7 in our naxx 10 last night |
| 15:49.58 | steev | Arrowmaster: I came pretty close to saying it |
| 15:49.59 | kadrahil | 5/5 offset tank gear now |
| 15:50.01 | quiescens | don't even start on dps's |
| 15:50.12 | doom0r | kadrahil: did they let you feel them up? |
| 15:50.16 | quiescens | fights where all they have to look out for is one lousy void zone |
| 15:50.16 | kadrahil | yes! |
| 15:50.19 | kadrahil | hehe |
| 15:50.28 | doom0r | win |
| 15:50.30 | steev | like i said - i was already pissed we were waiting on her to show up in the first place |
| 15:50.31 | kadrahil | our guild just runs 10 mans whenever we feel like it and we just roll for the gear |
| 15:50.36 | kadrahil | since most of us have 25 man main spec gear |
| 15:50.38 | Arrowmaster | ive known a few couples that played together but mostly they were good, or atleast the ones that i raided with for a long time |
| 15:50.46 | quiescens | they don't have to scramble to heal people within 3 seconds of a frost blast or run around picking up adds |
| 15:51.08 | quiescens | no other movement or aoe to avoid, just that one void zone |
| 15:51.08 | kadrahil | we also one shot KT heroic last night on our first night in |
| 15:51.10 | Arrowmaster | but also known some that were just bad |
| 15:51.11 | steev | Arrowmaster: most people think the gm and i live together because we don't talk on vent and just have good synergy |
| 15:51.11 | quiescens | and splat |
| 15:51.21 | kadrahil | the only other night we had on him was a 10 second lag wipefest for 3 attempts and we called it |
| 15:51.33 | steev | but she and i have just been gaming together since ~2003 |
| 15:52.22 | doom0r | 70mins left for 3.5 gigs =\ |
| 15:52.25 | sacarasc | Arrowmaster: Got a couple in my guild, the guy is awesome, the girl not so much |
| 15:52.44 | Shot | steev: oddly enough, there's a shaman in my guild called Steev, and I would have said he and ther GM were pretty close. |
| 15:52.48 | steev | its not whether they are awesome so much imo |
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| 15:52.55 | steev | Shot: heh, i play a dk named steev |
| 15:52.59 | steev | Shot: thats awesome though |
| 15:53.03 | steev | as long as he is good :-P |
| 15:53.20 | Arrowmaster | had a couple in guild that was forced to stop playing a long time ago due to family health problems but when they did play they were great, dps warrior and priest, they also made a kickass 2v2 team |
| 15:53.23 | quiescens | msot are alright |
| 15:53.27 | steev | its when you say something to one of them |
| 15:53.31 | Shot | He's our best resto shaman :p |
| 15:53.32 | quiescens | most* |
| 15:53.32 | steev | and the other gets bothered |
| 15:53.40 | thul | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2830882764_5580347e79.jpg <- that picture intrigues me. |
| 15:53.47 | steev | Shot: heh, i used to be a resto shammy |
| 15:53.53 | doom0r | best couple i've played with was dps war/priest also |
| 15:53.55 | steev | i used to solo heal kara :( |
| 15:54.35 | sacarasc | I used to solo kara! |
| 15:54.36 | thul | I hated morow |
| 15:54.38 | doom0r | thul: sell them some shampoo |
| 15:54.53 | thul | or less up-pushing bras |
| 15:54.57 | thul | but still, intrigouing pic. |
| 15:55.06 | thul | intriguing? intrigouing? intrigouing?! Wtf. |
| 15:55.06 | doom0r | their hair is destroyed =\ |
| 15:55.18 | steev | there are quite a few couples on our server apparently |
| 15:55.20 | doom0r | ~spell intriguing |
| 15:55.28 | steev | our old gm's gf played, a horrible horrible rogue |
| 15:55.39 | steev | but he wouldn't get pissed when people would bitch about her sucking |
| 15:55.40 | doom0r | heh |
| 15:55.49 | steev | and he wouldn't make room for her if she wasn't on in time |
| 15:56.14 | steev | she wouldn't even blind ffs |
| 15:56.17 | Fisker- | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697549620&sid=1#6 <-fail |
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| 15:57.52 | doom0r | do you Realize how small 6mb is? Thats the size of a Song on an Ipod, |
| 15:57.56 | doom0r | WTS diff concept |
| 15:58.21 | Megalon | 6mb is enough porn to whack of to |
| 15:58.29 | Megalon | that is, if you are really fast! |
| 15:58.47 | Zao | Fisker-: Rumor has it that the software has assorted EULAs that allow them to patch it :P |
| 15:59.49 | quiescens | you can cancel downloading/installing the patch if you wanted to~ |
| 15:59.56 | doom0r | when they have a stable service and don't blatantly fuck up stuff for everyone, they can get away with that |
| 16:00.06 | Bruners | Kaelten|away: i thought CC was not supposed to scan for addon updates on its own while wow is running ? |
| 16:00.09 | quiescens | its not like it sekretly installs in the background without any way to stop it |
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| 16:00.21 | digmouse | Howling Blast: Tooltip adjusted to correctly reflect that the ability has a 5 sec cooldown XD |
| 16:00.54 | thul | So far, the path that has seemed to work with most reliability for people running into troubles here, is to fully reinstall the game and re-download the patch. |
| 16:00.57 | thul | If you have taken those steps and this issue persists, please edit your post to indicate this. If you have not, please try that. |
| 16:01.00 | thul | i have to reinstall wow? :-( |
| 16:01.02 | thul | that will take like foreeeever |
| 16:01.15 | doom0r | lol |
| 16:01.33 | doom0r | what good would reinstalling wow ever be? |
| 16:02.09 | thul | well, don't ask me |
| 16:02.12 | thul | that is what the blue-post says |
| 16:02.16 | doom0r | it was rhetorical |
| 16:02.36 | doom0r | yes, help desk says stuff like that quite often |
| 16:03.00 | doom0r | i had a lady from comcast try to find out what os i had, because she was gonna tell me how to release/renew my ip |
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| 16:03.24 | quiescens | you'd be surprised |
| 16:03.38 | doom0r | no, i wouldn't, i knew the problem alredy and the fix |
| 16:03.47 | quiescens | yes, but they don't know that |
| 16:04.05 | doom0r | it was a billing issue where the service app doesn't get the proper stuff from bililng to apply to the account, even told them |
| 16:04.22 | Arrowmaster | thats why i always pull the 'i am a certified network engineer, forward me up a level' card |
| 16:04.22 | doom0r | happens on firmware updates or some shit |
| 16:04.26 | doom0r | lose my extra ips |
| 16:04.36 | Toadkiller | imo you should delete your WoW/Cache folder regularly, so you are ready when Blizz support suggests it! |
| 16:04.41 | krka | i love it as a developer when people find a bug and can instantly say both what the problem was and how to solve it |
| 16:04.50 | quiescens | I doubt they knew what you meant about extra ip's |
| 16:05.03 | doom0r | Arrowmaster: ya, but in that situation, most of the higher level techs still don't have the access to touch billing |
| 16:05.21 | doom0r | so, usually i have to end up with a retard reapplying my acc |
| 16:05.22 | Arrowmaster | right but they could confirm and forward you |
| 16:05.27 | doom0r | they did |
| 16:05.44 | doom0r | i got dropped by 3 people |
| 16:05.48 | doom0r | can't handle a phone system |
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| 16:06.36 | Hjalte | Is there a way in the ticket system on Curseforge to tell the Assignees that an error was still not fixed, besides commenting? |
| 16:07.22 | thul | well, I think of myself as quite good with computers, and I hate calling tech support "have you turned your computer on?" "is your mouse connected?" |
| 16:07.25 | thul | :-( |
| 16:07.45 | doom0r | Hjalte: i suppose you could pm them |
| 16:07.52 | quiescens | lol |
| 16:07.55 | sztanpet | you do know that they must ask those questions right thul? |
| 16:07.56 | Arrowmaster | curseforge doesnt have pm's |
| 16:07.56 | doom0r | provided they have notifications |
| 16:08.19 | quiescens | its a percentages game~ |
| 16:08.32 | steev | thul: have you tried turning it off and back on again? |
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| 16:08.54 | doom0r | http://forums.curseforge.com/private.php?do=newpm |
| 16:08.57 | doom0r | ? |
| 16:09.04 | Bruners | what is the best talent addon ? |
| 16:09.09 | SunTsu | thul: You'd be surprised how many people that are skilled forget to check the little things |
| 16:09.11 | steev | talented |
| 16:09.23 | Arrowmaster | the forum pms are still quite seperate |
| 16:09.33 | SunTsu | thul: mostly because they think too complicated |
| 16:09.33 | doom0r | it's the same acc though |
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| 16:10.21 | thul | SunTsu: that is true I guess |
| 16:10.24 | doom0r | wtf are my sunglasses |
| 16:10.29 | thul | sztanpet: no? :-P |
| 16:10.45 | doom0r | <50 minutes later while blowing my nose after digging through dusty crap> *looks in mirror* oh |
| 16:10.56 | thul | I just get annoyed when they stop me when i try to explain that i have done _everything_ their homepage prescribes, googled the problem, done a hardware check, run memcheck etc... |
| 16:11.53 | Megalon | SunTsu: haha yea, it's always awesome to see mathemtics professors fail at simple things :P |
| 16:12.05 | sztanpet | it does not matter what you have said to them, they still have to ask the basics and escalete accordingly |
| 16:12.14 | doom0r | course |
| 16:12.42 | doom0r | they're usually stuck in a screen that they only know one way to get out of |
| 16:12.42 | thul | sztanpet: it annoys me :-( |
| 16:12.42 | SunTsu | thul: Yeah, but they don't know you ;) Most people will tell them "I have done all that" - and in fact had not. You just can't filter it out by forcing those guys to do it ;) |
| 16:12.42 | thul | it wastes my time AND costs me dear phone money :-P |
| 16:12.51 | quiescens | yeah |
| 16:12.55 | quiescens | there's that factor too |
| 16:12.56 | thul | SunTsu: I understand that, I really do, it just annoys me :-P they should have a pro techsupport :-D |
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| 16:13.06 | quiescens | they have to filter out the people that are just saying they've done everything |
| 16:13.08 | thul | by the way, ahve you guys seen the M$ Cashback issues? that is.. crazybatshitstuff. |
| 16:13.12 | quiescens | because I'm sure everyone says that they've done everything |
| 16:13.15 | SunTsu | thul: Which everybody would use, 'cause everybody is a pro |
| 16:13.43 | steev | im not pro :( |
| 16:13.46 | steev | im a scrub |
| 16:13.47 | thul | true that.. that is a problem when we have private lessons at the Martial Arts club too, people are too.. into valuing their own skillsets:P |
| 16:13.49 | doom0r | you know, i was really suprised when i had an issue with TMobile restricting access to apps that RIM made available |
| 16:13.51 | steev | i dw :( |
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| 16:14.17 | thul | I like the Richard Dawkins twitterfeed, real or not |
| 16:14.23 | doom0r | they called RIM in the middle of the night, got a person who sounded like they were actually way above customer service ont he phone, and could carry on a real convo |
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| 16:14.40 | doom0r | RIM knew more about the issue than tmo |
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| 16:15.17 | steev | not uncommon doom0r |
| 16:15.37 | SunTsu | thul: I always tell our customer support not to trust what people tell them and double check ;) |
| 16:16.07 | doom0r | steev: not suprising either, since it was a marketing thing that customer service would never get info/approval to comment on |
| 16:16.32 | doom0r | it was an issue with tmo's sms messaging service competing with data messaging services |
| 16:16.32 | SunTsu | People tend to lie, maybe because they just want to have their way, maybe because they are lazy, some sure because of both reasons ;) |
| 16:16.47 | quiescens | I do the flip side a bit |
| 16:17.02 | quiescens | I'm fine with following their instructions for the most part |
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| 16:17.16 | thul | TWEEAT ME |
| 16:17.35 | quiescens | don't even bother correcting their assumption that I'm on windows |
| 16:17.46 | doom0r | heh |
| 16:17.48 | thul | i want a mb-d10 |
| 16:17.51 | quiescens | its easier to just do whatever equivalent than try to explain |
| 16:18.57 | steev | doom0r: most likely though, the customer service reps didn't actually know that was the reason |
| 16:19.20 | doom0r | steev: oh, they didn't even know anything about it, they didn't even know wtf AIM was |
| 16:19.20 | SunTsu | it normally takes longer to explain than doing what they want |
| 16:19.21 | steev | and when it is known, yes, they aren't allowed to say that its because the services compete |
| 16:19.29 | doom0r | let alone the whole money thing behind it |
| 16:19.46 | doom0r | luckily, they got enough push and gave in |
| 16:20.29 | doom0r | my mother has a friend that used to work for Lucent for a long time, forget where he's at now, but last i talked to him, he said he joined the dark side |
| 16:20.34 | doom0r | he went to marketing ;x |
| 16:21.17 | quiescens | oh noes |
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| 16:24.00 | SunTsu | doom0r: Ever tried to configure any Lucent equipment? He always was on the dark side |
| 16:24.08 | doom0r | heh |
| 16:24.18 | doom0r | he did quite different stuff |
| 16:24.32 | doom0r | he did consulting |
| 16:24.40 | doom0r | mostly for very large clients of theirs |
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| 16:25.23 | doom0r | SunTsu: he was pre alcatel |
| 16:25.27 | doom0r | (sp?) |
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| 16:27.12 | SunTsu | doom0r: Never had anything to do with their consultants. And I don't think it's a bad thing to claim. |
| 16:27.53 | doom0r | they changed big time after they started losing it and sold |
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| 16:51.35 | Gnarfoz | any of the GatherMate authors around? it's latest release version is majorly broken in 3.0.8, already fixed in svn though -> needs some tag lovin' (at least beta :P) |
| 16:51.54 | kagaro | ill tag it |
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| 16:55.36 | Julith | Does anyone know an addon which can play sounds if the cool down of a spell is ready? |
| 16:56.59 | doom0r | i use msbt |
| 16:57.19 | Julith | which stands for? |
| 16:57.30 | doom0r | MikScrollingBattleText |
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| 16:58.29 | Julith | does it come without the clutter of scrolling texts around it? :) |
| 16:58.48 | doom0r | no clutter ;x |
| 16:58.56 | doom0r | there's a crap ton of cd notifiters |
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| 16:59.17 | durcyn | i might be convinced to add a noise to heatsink |
| 16:59.40 | doom0r | i use spellreminder also depending on character, what i'm doing |
| 16:59.57 | doom0r | think you can add custom sounds to that |
| 17:01.33 | doom0r | there's always ghost: pulse and such too, but i find that heavy |
| 17:02.26 | Julith | thanks, I'll have a look at them |
| 17:02.53 | Chompers | Julith: parrot also has that ability |
| 17:04.19 | Julith | chompers: hmm, like with msbt it does a bit to much for me since I only need the sound notification |
| 17:04.34 | Gnarfoz | kagaro: sweet |
| 17:05.18 | doom0r | Julith: look in the buff categories |
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| 17:05.27 | doom0r | that's where most of what you're looking for will be |
| 17:09.40 | Julith | is heatsink intended to come without its libraries? |
| 17:09.51 | Arrowmaster | it should have them |
| 17:10.30 | doom0r | dTa's SHA256 check is gonna take ages if i let it go |
| 17:10.52 | quiesense | crwth.. |
| 17:10.55 | quiesense | aka fiddle |
| 17:10.56 | quiesense | lol |
| 17:11.08 | durcyn | Julith: no, but i did commit a functional pkgmeta earlier, haven't tagged it yet |
| 17:11.44 | nevcairiel | ckknight: on another note, reboot Repo |
| 17:11.51 | nevcairiel | its lacking its announces |
| 17:11.51 | ckknight | k |
| 17:12.14 | nevcairiel | oi i see spam incoming |
| 17:12.20 | ckknight | here we go! |
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| 17:12.29 | thul | haha |
| 17:12.54 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok * r1145 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 17:12.58 | Repo | Mouseover highlight can now be disabled under Frame:Advanced. |
| 17:13.04 | quiesense | hides. |
| 17:13.34 | nevcairiel | waves goodbye to Repo |
| 17:13.54 | quiesense | look what you did nev |
| 17:13.55 | quiesense | ): |
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| 17:14.13 | nevcairiel | he'll survive |
| 17:16.37 | sztanpet | oh yeay for the new grid feature |
| 17:16.44 | sztanpet | wanted that for almost two years now! |
| 17:17.25 | quiesense | needs configurable frame border size |
| 17:17.35 | quiesense | 1px can be hard to see |
| 17:18.30 | nevcairiel | @ping |
| 17:18.31 | Repo | pong |
| 17:18.31 | Gnarfoz | also, scaling sometimes leaves you with 3 or just 2 borders |
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| 17:19.34 | quiesense | mm, fractional thickness or something? |
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| 17:21.59 | quiesense | I'm surprised how many people half complete the wrathgate quest chain and then later wonder why their undercity and orgrimmar are so out of whack |
| 17:22.11 | kenlyric | ~curseclient |
| 17:22.12 | purl | somebody said curseclient was New beta released at: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/5-curse-client-2-1-1-2-beta-1-update-exe-only/ Post all suggestions at http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/ |
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| 17:22.13 | Arrowmaster | im not |
| 17:22.28 | Arrowmaster | since they are obviously just following the questhelper arrow |
| 17:22.41 | Kaelten | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090123/od_nm/us_goat |
| 17:23.11 | doom0r | ckknight: bumblebee's shouldn't get ponies |
| 17:23.30 | Tinyboom | 2.1.1.5beta 1 is latest, someone help purl learn :p |
| 17:23.36 | ckknight | doom0r: explain |
| 17:23.58 | doom0r | it's just nonsensical |
| 17:24.09 | doom0r | clearly they should have unicorns |
| 17:24.15 | doom0r | i suggest you inform Chip |
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| 17:30.20 | doom0r | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090126/od_nm/us_car_church |
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| 17:34.32 | Niwa | Hmm, just because I said I would, I actually did it: http://paste.wowace.com/216/ |
| 17:34.44 | Niwa | WoW now has a Joy interpreter >_> |
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| 17:36.37 | durcyn | Julith: the 3.0.8 zip should be slightly less retarded wrt libs |
| 17:37.32 | Julith | durcyn: ok, I'll try if it works now |
| 17:38.05 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/trigger/418/ |
| 17:39.06 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: too much free time, obviously :d |
| 17:39.22 | ckknight | I just had to implement the exception |
| 17:39.26 | ckknight | it's a real HTTP status code |
| 17:40.09 | Gnarfoz | I'm aware |
| 17:40.43 | nevcairiel | Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol (HTCPCP/1.0) |
| 17:40.45 | nevcairiel | didnt you know? |
| 17:41.30 | Gnarfoz | we've had this discussion before :p |
| 17:41.54 | Julith | durcyn: "Cannot find a library instance of "LibBars-1.0"." - i think its because the actual lib.xml of "LibBars" is in "libs/LibBars-1.0/LibBars-1.0/lib.xml" |
| 17:42.18 | durcyn | i might've c&p'd the pkgmeta line a bit hastily, one sec |
| 17:43.50 | Arrowmaster | hate libraries with double directories like that |
| 17:44.38 | durcyn | i just wish it was consistent |
| 17:44.58 | durcyn | having libstub/cbh in the root and the lib itself in a subdirectory is a workable design, it's just not enforced |
| 17:45.57 | doom0r | i tried for rfc2324 support in pb4 |
| 17:46.01 | doom0r | ckk declined it |
| 17:46.31 | ckknight | because pb4 is not http compliant |
| 17:46.35 | ckknight | whereas wowace is |
| 17:46.43 | ckknight | so I figure, HTTP 418 seems fun |
| 17:47.20 | Skellum | I can say difinitivly that Bruce Campbell is one of the greatest actors of our day. |
| 17:47.39 | pentium166 | but you could have tcp over the addon message channel |
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| 17:48.49 | ckknight | pentium166: but doesn't seem worthwhile to implement HTTP, though |
| 17:49.15 | pentium166 | it's not about being worthwhile, it's about doing it because you can! |
| 17:49.19 | steev | woo draka's back up |
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| 17:50.34 | steev | wow doesn't seem to like synergy here :( |
| 17:52.24 | pentium166 | keyboard/mouse sharing synergy? |
| 17:52.48 | nevcairiel | synergy hasnt been working at all for me :/ |
| 17:52.56 | nevcairiel | neither have any of the other apps |
| 17:53.23 | steev | pentium166: yes |
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| 17:54.47 | pentium166 | it would always cause the camera to freak out on the client computer if i tried to drag the mouse in wow |
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| 17:56.59 | steev | pentium166: yes, thats what happens |
| 17:58.09 | doom0r | can synergy be hot toggled? |
| 17:58.32 | steev | doom0r: not when you don't have a mouse/keyboard connected to that system |
| 17:58.44 | doom0r | ? |
| 17:59.02 | Droolio | i think there is a workaround for the hyper mouse accel in wow/synergy |
| 17:59.20 | doom0r | i'm just talking about dropping and reassociating |
| 17:59.29 | doom0r | say box1 has periphs, box2 doesn't |
| 17:59.37 | pentium166 | you can tell the server (on windows at least) to reconnect clients |
| 17:59.43 | doom0r | but i need the ability to lock on box1, drop and reconnect as needed |
| 18:00.03 | doom0r | gotcha |
| 18:00.07 | pentium166 | and the client will keep trying to reconnect if the server is down |
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| 18:00.11 | steev | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1839886&group_id=59275&atid=490467 |
| 18:00.15 | pentium166 | although sometimes it takes a while :( |
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| 18:01.22 | steev | pentium166: ^^ |
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| 18:01.58 | pentium166 | oh, i was trying to see if i could easily make it enable relative mouse movement on the client while a mouse button was held down, but i don't know enough c/c++ do actually do it |
| 18:02.07 | doom0r | does disabling hw mouse affect it? |
| 18:02.36 | steev | not here doom |
| 18:02.41 | steev | the cursor isn't the issue |
| 18:02.56 | steev | the issue is with d3d/opengl mouse handling when mouse buttons are pressed |
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| 18:03.34 | steev | essentially, you run in a circle |
| 18:03.37 | doom0r | the lockin crap it does? |
| 18:04.33 | steev | no idea |
| 18:04.46 | steev | my scroll lock key is busted and im too lazy to edit .synergy.conf |
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| 18:10.00 | steev | although... i gotta say - doesn't actually seem to work here |
| 18:10.00 | steev | its definitely *better* |
| 18:10.00 | steev | but by no means fixes it |
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| 18:15.31 | pentium166 | is synergy still maintained? |
| 18:16.00 | thul | portrait of the day: http://fc79.deviantart.com/fs41/i/2009/027/d/2/Low_sun_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
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| 18:19.47 | ckknight | she seems vengeful |
| 18:20.04 | ckknight | like she's plotting to murder someone in cold blood |
| 18:20.09 | ckknight | but not until it's just the right moment |
| 18:21.26 | ckknight | I'm gonna say she's fighting for a lost loved one |
| 18:21.26 | steev | thul: i dig black and white pics |
| 18:21.28 | ckknight | not a lover, though |
| 18:21.34 | ckknight | more along the lines of a sibling |
| 18:21.40 | steev | ckknight: looks to me like shes fighting the cold |
| 18:22.17 | ckknight | I prefer my murdered sibling plotline |
| 18:22.20 | thul | :-) |
| 18:22.25 | ckknight | you can do more with it |
| 18:22.39 | thul | I think ckknight are close to the truth :-P |
| 18:22.51 | thul | more with it pp-wise? or as in better next time? |
| 18:23.15 | ckknight | it'd be easier to write a story about it rather than just "she's fighting the cold, brrr" |
| 18:24.28 | thul | aah, ok:P |
| 18:24.49 | Chompers | oh hey thul, you found my picture |
| 18:24.51 | Chompers | ...tee hee? |
| 18:25.13 | doom0r | "I noticed there are 3 options to download. My CPU is running on XP Pro, so which one should I download ? Thanks for your assistance" |
| 18:25.32 | thul | Chompers:P |
| 18:26.40 | steev | woot done for the day |
| 18:26.54 | steev | <3 snow days at work |
| 18:27.13 | steev | only because Tulsa sucks at salt/sanding the roads so people get stuck/slide |
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| 18:33.22 | Gnarfoz | ~seen zeksie |
| 18:33.24 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust211.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 6d 3h 33m 21s ago, saying: 'hehe.. craftlist2 is DCing me when ppl do !full... better update those links :|'. |
| 18:33.35 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
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| 18:55.46 | *** mode/#wowace [+Rr] by SportChick |
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| 18:55.59 | SportChick | w 37 |
| 18:56.21 | NeoTron | thank you |
| 18:56.23 | Aeyan | Juvenile, heh |
| 18:56.25 | nevcairiel | man that happens when you look in another channel for a minute |
| 18:56.41 | Hirsute | What the heck? |
| 18:56.48 | DarkAudit | what in the hell was that? |
| 18:56.49 | nevcairiel | but its been a while |
| 18:56.49 | Aeyan | Happens from time to time |
| 18:56.51 | SportChick | nevcairiel: np - want me to set it back? |
| 18:56.52 | Thrae | SportChick: Nice work. I really need to see if there's a "ping ops" command already in irssi. |
| 18:57.14 | Aeyan | SportChick: Nah, usually takes them a while to go away |
| 18:57.19 | nevcairiel | SportChick: nah just leave it for a while, i'll remove it soon, thanks for the lock |
| 18:57.33 | SportChick | np nevcairiel :) |
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| 19:00.41 | Shirik | You know, nevcairiel, you should just let shiibot in here :P |
| 19:00.57 | nevcairiel | I cant give ops away anyway |
| 19:01.03 | nevcairiel | well only temporary :P |
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| 19:07.57 | Camci | what was the command again to inc camera range :P |
| 19:09.06 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.50 | Camci | and what is max? |
| 19:10.50 | durcyn | i believe it only goes up to 4. default is 2. |
| 19:11.00 | Camci | cheers thanks |
| 19:12.20 | Pneumatus | yeh you can set it as high as you like but 4 is the max |
| 19:12.47 | Arrowmaster | more like 3.4 or so |
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| 19:14.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah camreaDistanceMax is 15 by default |
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| 19:14.32 | Camci | and 50 was max there? |
| 19:14.36 | Arrowmaster | camreaDistanceMaxFactor of 2 changes it to 30 effectively |
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| 19:15.24 | Pneumatus | wish it would save between sessions :< |
| 19:15.37 | durcyn | you could dump it in a stub addon, i suppose |
| 19:15.45 | Arrowmaster | try camreaDistanceMax 25 |
| 19:15.47 | Arrowmaster | see if that saves |
| 19:16.06 | durcyn | SetCVar() shouldn't be protected or anything silly |
| 19:16.28 | Arrowmaster | maxfactor of 3.4 gives an effective 51 with a max of the default 15 |
| 19:16.28 | EthanCentaurai | or better still, try cameraDistanceMax 25 |
| 19:16.45 | Arrowmaster | EthanCentaurai: i said that |
| 19:16.53 | EthanCentaurai | no, you said camrea :P |
| 19:17.00 | durcyn | camera, camrea, can't we all just get along |
| 19:17.06 | Arrowmaster | whatever |
| 19:21.14 | Torhal | Kaelten: ping |
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| 19:21.21 | Kaelten | pong? |
| 19:21.31 | Torhal | Want me to try to break my addons again with the new beta? |
| 19:21.38 | Kaelten | yep |
| 19:21.39 | Kaelten | of course |
| 19:21.52 | *** mode/#wowace [-R] by nevcairiel |
| 19:21.59 | Torhal | I come home from work and see the client window, and think "I didn't leave that open this morning..." |
| 19:22.01 | Torhal | Heh |
| 19:22.38 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:22.49 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: why are we +r? |
| 19:22.53 | *** mode/#wowace [-r] by Kaelten |
| 19:22.56 | nevcairiel | you dont want to know |
| 19:23.04 | Kaelten | sure I do |
| 19:23.10 | Torhal | Kaelten: We had a bunch of KJSDGkuywekjhsdf names in here spamming nonsense |
| 19:23.15 | Kaelten | sweet |
| 19:23.49 | Kaelten | what are they pissed off about this time |
| 19:23.53 | Kaelten | or is there no telling |
| 19:24.06 | Pneumatus | network based grief i think |
| 19:24.14 | Kaelten | network? |
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| 19:24.50 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: http://ace.pastey.net/107110 |
| 19:25.15 | nevcairiel | in all detail! |
| 19:25.16 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 19:25.23 | Pneumatus | there was a global earlier, so im guessing it wasn't limited to just a few channels |
| 19:25.38 | nevcairiel | i must've missed the global |
| 19:25.40 | nevcairiel | what did it say? |
| 19:25.54 | Pneumatus | or it might have been last night |
| 19:26.01 | Torhal | Was last night |
| 19:26.05 | Torhal | Everyone was kicked. |
| 19:26.20 | Torhal | Sweet! PTR downloader was using 991MB of RAM. |
| 19:26.20 | nevcairiel | when it hits us and #wowuidev, its usually targeted on us, not freenode |
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| 19:26.27 | Toadkiller | Imo they are the terrorists and they use encrypted communications. Do not let the terrorists win! |
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| 19:27.00 | Pneumatus | Toadkiller: have you ever experienced autobar bars not hiding when they are set to hide sometimes? |
| 19:27.13 | Pneumatus | the popup/flyout bits i mean |
| 19:28.58 | Toadkiller | Yes. The underlying blizzard code sucks complete and total coconuts. I used to be able to hack up stupid code to compensate. The code required was nerfed in the last patch. In addition the replacement mechanism wasnt even tested since it is broken beyond all hope of working. |
| 19:29.30 | Pneumatus | ah |
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| 19:30.23 | Toadkiller | However, they fixed one TINY issue: you can now pop up, leave the window (in windowed mode) the reenter somewhere else & omfg the popup will close like it should! |
| 19:31.22 | tomaw | Kaelten, nevcairiel: hopefully they shouldn't be back again |
| 19:32.15 | Toadkiller | They are still totally and completely incapable of writing popup code that has a 0 .. slight closing delay after mouse leave at whcih point it closes. |
| 19:32.18 | nevcairiel | Its all those kids do, they'll devote their next weeks of life completly to it, and find a way |
| 19:32.24 | nevcairiel | shrug |
| 19:32.28 | Toadkiller | You can see me mocking their noobishness here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202271194&sid=1&pageNo=19 |
| 19:32.51 | Kaelten | tomaw: hope not, :) |
| 19:33.12 | Torhal | Toadkiller: Any more feedback on Revelation? |
| 19:33.28 | Torhal | The icons were a good idea, looks very nice. |
| 19:33.45 | Toadkiller | Oh man sweet cant wait to update! |
| 19:33.59 | Torhal | Did the tooltips as well, much better than what I had before |
| 19:34.39 | Toadkiller | The only other thing I find weird is the quantity selector. Not sure how you can improve on that in a popup though. |
| 19:34.40 | Kaelten | Toadkiller: try new client, gief feedback! |
| 19:35.10 | Kaelten | :) |
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| 19:35.18 | Toadkiller | Kaelten: do you mean the curse updater? |
| 19:35.20 | Torhal | Toadkiller: Well, I was thinking of just using an editbox or even a slider. |
| 19:35.23 | Kaelten | aye |
| 19:35.49 | Toadkiller | Ok thats the final straw, I will check it out. |
| 19:36.01 | Kaelten | woot |
| 19:36.38 | Toadkiller | Torhal: Oh hey, do you have the ability to change the key bind? I currently have alt moving stuff to & from bank or mail etc. (Postal I think) |
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| 19:37.10 | Kaelten | Toadkiller: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/files/7-curse-client-2-1-1-5-installer-beta-1/ |
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| 19:37.34 | Torhal | Toadkiller: I was thinking of adding a slashcmd for enabling control, but that would make it CTRL+ALT+LeftClick |
| 19:37.48 | Torhal | People have been saying ItemRack and a few others hijack that combination |
| 19:38.10 | Torhal | What I need to do is convince Mikk to code his little hook idea. |
| 19:38.40 | Mikk | mmmyeah there's too many that want a click combo for menus |
| 19:38.45 | Torhal | I did have it as ALT+RightClick but Baggins uses that for a menu |
| 19:38.50 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: can i set it to update into some random folder instead of my wow install? :D |
| 19:38.54 | Torhal | So apparently I cannot win. |
| 19:39.08 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: yes, just give it a fake directory layout |
| 19:39.20 | Kaelten | so set it to c:/Fake Wow |
| 19:39.31 | Kaelten | and have c:/Fake Wow/Interface/AddOns/ |
| 19:39.36 | Torhal | Kaelten: I see wxWidgets still has issues deleting dirs in XP |
| 19:39.58 | Kaelten | Torhal: yea, it is actually a wxWidgets bug, and we have a ticket open on it internally |
| 19:40.06 | Torhal | Sweet. |
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| 19:41.35 | Toadkiller | Torhal: I am ok with just the ability to choose amongst alt ctrl shift for it to do its thing. (or some combo if there are too many other mods with similar needs). For me a switch to ctrl is a good solution. Shift is already stack size |
| 19:41.55 | Torhal | CTRL is dressing room. |
| 19:42.04 | Toadkiller | gah, right |
| 19:42.17 | Torhal | That's why I said CTRL+ALT |
| 19:42.25 | Torhal | But I'm sure someone will/has/is using that already as well |
| 19:42.37 | Torhal | So I guess I'll be forced to write config code after all. |
| 19:42.48 | Toadkiller | or ctrl shift: they do not span the windows key. |
| 19:43.01 | Torhal | True |
| 19:43.01 | Torhal | Heh |
| 19:43.07 | Toadkiller | Although mine is disabled, but for some it would be, less than ideal |
| 19:43.58 | Toadkiller | Kaelten: holy cow, what exactly are you guys verifying in settings and permissions? |
| 19:44.15 | Kaelten | Toadkiller: should be done pretty quickly |
| 19:44.22 | Torhal | Kaelten: Suggestions - searchbox at top of "My Addons". I may want to quickly find/uninstall an addon. Also, scrolling down the whole list to read changelogs is problematic. Mayhap have an "Updated Addons" tab? |
| 19:44.31 | Toadkiller | Oh nm, didnt see the ok dialog. It was waiting on me. |
| 19:44.33 | *** part/#wowace tomaw (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) |
| 19:44.45 | Kaelten | Toadkiller: lol |
| 19:44.55 | Torhal | I'm checking now to see if the nolibs problem has been resolved. |
| 19:45.02 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: huh, i set it to disembed and it installed some weird version of LibStub |
| 19:45.11 | nevcairiel | LibStub-r47489-nolib <-- it instaleld that |
| 19:45.14 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: known issue |
| 19:45.20 | nevcairiel | k |
| 19:45.26 | Kaelten | which reminds me I need to check on the status of that one |
| 19:45.28 | Torhal | Ok, that answers my question about nolib |
| 19:45.39 | nevcairiel | Seems to be the newest nolib avail |
| 19:45.41 | Torhal | So I get to put those five libs/addons back on ignore. |
| 19:45.46 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Aye. |
| 19:46.08 | Torhal | HandyNotes_FlightMasters, HandyNotes_Mailboxes, and LibBabble-Zone have the same problem. |
| 19:46.22 | nevcairiel | Yeah alot of addons probably will |
| 19:46.22 | Torhal | So I put those on ignore and manually install the latest. |
| 19:46.29 | nevcairiel | they all don't have embeded libs |
| 19:46.36 | nevcairiel | but they have old nolibs from old-wowace |
| 19:46.42 | Torhal | But tYup. |
| 19:47.45 | nevcairiel | But it still has this free-fly statusbar :/ |
| 19:48.27 | nevcairiel | It didn't automagically install the curse profiler |
| 19:48.30 | nevcairiel | fascinating |
| 19:48.33 | Fisker- | farts |
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| 19:48.46 | Fisker- | i'm so rebellious |
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| 19:49.02 | Toadkiller | Kaelten: I have a big apple monitor with 1600 vertical resolution. Is it possible to resize the bottom info window? or have a smallish default for it so on resize it stays the same and the bulk goes to the mod list on top? |
| 19:49.26 | Toadkiller | hiding it is a nice first step though |
| 19:49.54 | Kaelten | Toadkiller: yeah for now hiding or 1/3rd is what I got |
| 19:50.03 | Toadkiller | Oh and mousewheel support for scrolling. Do you want this logged in tickets I take it? |
| 19:50.28 | Torhal | Toadkiller: It works, you just have to force focus on the addon list. |
| 19:50.31 | Kaelten | please |
| 19:50.34 | Torhal | Click somewhere in there. |
| 19:50.39 | Toadkiller | ah got it |
| 19:50.43 | Kaelten | tickets at the curseforge project please |
| 19:50.49 | Torhal | Kaelten: Will do. |
| 19:51.10 | Toadkiller | The 1/3 math is wrong. The bottom section is maybe 2 lines shorter than the top on my monitor. |
| 19:51.31 | Toadkiller | But the final solution > than futsing with it |
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| 19:53.08 | Dark_Elf | is glad todays hotfix was small |
| 19:54.05 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: set a min-height/min-width on the frame imho, if you shrink it too much, it looks just broken :D |
| 19:54.54 | Kaelten | Toadkiller: aye, we'll be making it resizable with a little dragger at some point |
| 19:55.02 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: also good ideas |
| 19:55.17 | Kaelten | although the max will likely be whatever you stretch it too |
| 19:55.32 | nevcairiel | meh gammatester image upload is broken |
| 19:55.43 | nevcairiel | or rather, down |
| 19:56.16 | Kaelten | :( |
| 19:56.48 | Toadkiller | Kaelten: Oh yeah, and push a mac version. People were bitching in the AutoBar forum a while back after I dissed wowmatrix. |
| 19:56.55 | nevcairiel | the addon description in the client should strip the ToC |
| 19:57.08 | Fisker- | lets all make fun of Kaelten |
| 19:57.18 | Kaelten | Toadkiller: it's one of the next things getting worked on. |
| 19:57.19 | nevcairiel | i should write tickets =P |
| 19:57.24 | ckknight | hey all, wowace now serves coffee: http://www.wowace.com/brew-coffee/ |
| 19:57.27 | Kaelten | nevcairiel: please do |
| 19:57.41 | nevcairiel | lol you even aliased it |
| 19:57.45 | durcyn | bored at work, huh ck? |
| 19:57.58 | nevcairiel | but huh, you're 10 years late .. wasnt that aprils fool in 1998 or so? |
| 19:57.58 | Kaelten | making fun of the standard is more like it |
| 19:58.00 | nevcairiel | or even earlier |
| 19:58.01 | Kaelten | of/with |
| 19:58.05 | *** join/#wowace Groktar (n=gr@76-236-38-194.lightspeed.frsnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:58.25 | Chompers | i need to make a ticket, your machine is out of coffee |
| 19:58.33 | Chompers | WHEN WILL YOU FIX IT |
| 19:58.48 | ckknight | sorry, Chompers, it's a teapot |
| 19:58.53 | Chompers | !!1oneeleven! |
| 19:59.00 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yea, but it's still funny |
| 19:59.29 | taleden | nub question about xpcall(): if it happens in an event handler, which is called by the client's event dispatch code we can't debug anyway, what useful info might be in the trace from before the xpcall() besides the name of the event? |
| 19:59.46 | Xinhuan | you get it all |
| 20:00.06 | Xinhuan | the entire trace |
| 20:00.08 | taleden | right, but which parts of "it all" are useful? stack trace doesn't seem great to me since the whole stack will be C functions in the client, up until the event handler itself |
| 20:00.15 | Xinhuan | it depends on the code itself |
| 20:00.38 | Xinhuan | clearly that question is vague, since a stack trace's usefulness depends entirely on what is being called/triggered |
| 20:00.42 | nevcairiel | C functions you usually don't see |
| 20:00.51 | nevcairiel | it starts on the event handler entry |
| 20:01.15 | Toadkiller | taleden: Any clue as to who caused the call back is good. If it is straight c into the broken callback and thats a lib then it sucks. Otherwise its nice... |
| 20:01.24 | taleden | ok, so if the event handler itself doesn't generate an error before it gets to xpcall(), then what does xpcall() give you between the event handler entry and itself other than the name of the game event that caused the handler to run? |
| 20:01.43 | nevcairiel | It doesn't even get you the name of the event |
| 20:01.58 | nevcairiel | its a pure stacktrace |
| 20:02.05 | taleden | so if xpcall() happens inside a function that is called directly by OnEvent script, does it give you anything? |
| 20:02.11 | taleden | the whole stack trace would be C functions, no? |
| 20:02.32 | Xinhuan | you would get a stack trace consisting of OnEvent --> the lua function --> the xpcall |
| 20:02.33 | nevcairiel | well that depends how deep the stack goes inside the xpcall |
| 20:02.41 | Xinhuan | but it all depends on the code |
| 20:02.44 | Xinhuan | of the addon |
| 20:03.04 | taleden | hm |
| 20:03.04 | Toadkiller | YEs, sometimes you get a bunch of C, ending in one lua call and no way to know who noobed it. At that point you need to start disabling mods etc. |
| 20:03.25 | taleden | toadkiller: I thought it was the other way around? |
| 20:03.40 | taleden | I thought an error in something after xpcall() only traces back to the xpcall() |
| 20:04.02 | taleden | my question is, if the trace from that point up is only the event handler and then into C code, what use is it? |
| 20:04.05 | nevcairiel | no, you get the trace to the actual error |
| 20:04.13 | nevcairiel | not to the xpcall |
| 20:04.16 | taleden | er, sorry, a trace in something after pcall() |
| 20:04.24 | taleden | i'm comparing pcall to xpcall |
| 20:04.33 | nevcairiel | thats why we don't use pcall in Ace3 anymore |
| 20:04.43 | nevcairiel | and build a dispatcher using xpcall |
| 20:04.46 | nevcairiel | to preserve the trace |
| 20:04.48 | taleden | right, and i'm trying to determine if that is also necessary in my case |
| 20:05.08 | Toadkiller | Only if you want to do error handling right |
| 20:05.08 | Xinhuan | consider this stack trace |
| 20:05.12 | taleden | because it seems to me, if the [p|xp]call happens in a function that is only called by OnEvent, then the trace you lose because it was a pcall doesn't seem to have much in it |
| 20:06.07 | nevcairiel | taleden: as long as its only from that OnEvent, it should not matter much. in our case, we could have long callbacks going wild through all ace libs :) |
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| 20:06.50 | taleden | that's what I was getting at :) |
| 20:06.54 | onaforeignshore | hey guys |
| 20:07.06 | taleden | because xpcall() is much slower and harder to use, and it wasn't clear to me that it actually offered an advantage in this case |
| 20:07.57 | Xinhuan | consider this stack trace |
| 20:07.58 | Xinhuan | http://paste.wowace.com/218/ |
| 20:08.12 | Fisker- | ckknight |
| 20:08.16 | Xinhuan | without the xpcall, it would have ended at line 7 |
| 20:08.20 | Fisker- | can i buy battletoads for curse points? |
| 20:08.31 | nevcairiel | xpcall isn't that much slower, it just requires a function closure |
| 20:08.44 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: i can easily identify something wrong in that stacktrace |
| 20:08.45 | Chompers | lick my battletoad Fisker- |
| 20:08.47 | nevcairiel | which might be somewhat annoying |
| 20:08.50 | Xinhuan | yes Arrowmaster |
| 20:08.57 | Arrowmaster | carbonite is installed |
| 20:08.58 | Xinhuan | its also a few months old ;p |
| 20:09.19 | nevcairiel | Nx.returnwtf |
| 20:09.20 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 20:09.25 | Xinhuan | but from that stack trace, taleden, its obvious that calling SetMapZoom() in an addon causes WORLD_MAP_UPDATE event to fire |
| 20:09.27 | Arrowmaster | Nx = Carbonite |
| 20:09.38 | Xinhuan | which is why you see aceevent re-triggering itself |
| 20:09.52 | taleden | hm |
| 20:09.53 | krka | i am not sure what the point of xpcall is |
| 20:09.57 | krka | has anyone used it for something real? |
| 20:10.04 | Xinhuan | yes, stack traces |
| 20:10.04 | Arrowmaster | we do |
| 20:10.04 | nevcairiel | we use it |
| 20:10.15 | nevcairiel | pcall cuts off the stacktrace |
| 20:10.18 | nevcairiel | xpcall doesnt |
| 20:10.25 | Arrowmaster | pcall makes debuggin impossible |
| 20:10.30 | krka | hm |
| 20:10.50 | taleden | if the event that leads to the [p|xp]call cannot be triggered by any addon code, then it cannot retrigger itself, right? |
| 20:11.35 | nevcairiel | probably |
| 20:11.40 | Xinhuan | taleden, it is sometimes VERY important to know which event triggere |
| 20:11.42 | Xinhuan | triggered |
| 20:12.00 | taleden | xinhuan: that I grant, and I'm wondering if I can get away with just passing the event to the callback through pcall to get that info |
| 20:12.17 | taleden | i'm trying to see if the extra trace from xpcall gives anything that I can't just give as arguments through the pcall |
| 20:12.22 | Arrowmaster | its not just the event thats important though |
| 20:12.26 | Arrowmaster | the entire stacktrace is |
| 20:12.46 | taleden | arrow: that's how this conversation started, i asked what good is the stacktrace if it only goes straight into wow's event dispatch |
| 20:12.59 | Arrowmaster | because you dont know that |
| 20:13.04 | taleden | i.e. the pcall/xpcall happens inside an OnEvent handler which can only fire for game events which cannot be triggered by addon code |
| 20:13.13 | Arrowmaster | wrong |
| 20:13.14 | krka | i totally don't get it, how does xpcall give a larger stacktrace? |
| 20:13.22 | Arrowmaster | look at that one xinhuan linked again |
| 20:13.30 | Torhal | krka: The same was less is better than more. |
| 20:13.39 | taleden | I am looking at it |
| 20:13.49 | Xinhuan | the error without xpcall would have stopped at line 7 |
| 20:13.59 | taleden | I see that, and I understand its need in that case |
| 20:14.05 | Xinhuan | so as an addon author, i would know that something called AddLandMark to be called |
| 20:14.11 | Xinhuan | but i wouln't know WHAT or why |
| 20:14.18 | Xinhuan | caused* |
| 20:14.22 | Arrowmaster | SetMapZoom() triggered an event to be fired |
| 20:14.23 | taleden | but if the event cannot be triggered by addon code because its protected, and thus cannot be re-triggered inside the callback |
| 20:14.25 | krka | hm, i'm testing with the interpreter, and not getting any stacktraces at all |
| 20:14.27 | Arrowmaster | both are in the stacktrace |
| 20:14.34 | nevcairiel | krka: it has something todo with xpcall actually calling the errorhandler instead of you doing a debugstack() yourself |
| 20:14.48 | Xinhuan | events can be triggered by addon code taleden |
| 20:15.03 | Xinhuan | for example, if i call frame:Show(), it triggers OnShow() |
| 20:15.05 | taleden | xinhuan: some of them yes, but all of them? |
| 20:15.08 | taleden | what about player_target_changed? |
| 20:15.10 | nevcairiel | ckknight: Repo broke again :/ |
| 20:15.11 | krka | hm, you're using debug.traceback to get it i presume |
| 20:15.14 | taleden | can an addon change your target? isn't that protected? |
| 20:15.15 | Xinhuan | some of them are triggerable |
| 20:15.17 | ckknight | wth |
| 20:15.35 | Xinhuan | leaving a raid is not protected |
| 20:15.40 | taleden | ah |
| 20:15.41 | Arrowmaster | after youve tried to debug Ace2 long enough youll ever use pcall again, ever |
| 20:15.41 | nevcairiel | krka: debugstack() in WoW, don't ask me what it really is. |
| 20:15.45 | Arrowmaster | for any reason at all |
| 20:16.01 | Arrowmaster | s/ever/never/ |
| 20:16.07 | Xinhuan | and i've demonstrated that calling SetMapZoom() will trigger WORLD_MAP_UPDATE |
| 20:16.15 | Xinhuan | as does SetMapToCurrentZone() |
| 20:16.19 | taleden | xinhuan: yes, but I am not listening for world_map_update :) |
| 20:16.25 | krka | ah, debug.traceback gives more info while inside the error handler |
| 20:16.26 | krka | of course |
| 20:16.27 | Xinhuan | don't assume :) |
| 20:16.32 | taleden | i was trying to see if any event i'm listening for can actually be retriggered, and if raid can, then i accept that I need xpcall |
| 20:16.33 | Xinhuan | now lets say your library has a bug |
| 20:16.40 | Xinhuan | a race condition, lets say |
| 20:16.55 | Xinhuan | without the xpcall, you wouldn't know which event triggered the pcall() |
| 20:17.16 | Arrowmaster | in a perfect world you would never need to look at a stacktrace and debug, this isnt a perfect world, never assume |
| 20:17.27 | Xinhuan | that's why software has a "release version" and a "debug version"! |
| 20:17.45 | taleden | xinhuan: well, i would if i passed the event through the pcall to the handler :) but again, i submit, you've told me an event that can be retriggered in my case, so i will use xpcall |
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| 20:18.04 | Xinhuan | an addon can also move people's groups fyi |
| 20:18.08 | taleden | arrowmaster: i am aware. i do actually develop software for a living, which doesn't necessarily mean i'm good at it, but i do know a thing or two |
| 20:18.09 | Xinhuan | (when out of combat( |
| 20:18.10 | Xinhuan | ) |
| 20:18.12 | taleden | ok |
| 20:18.20 | Repo | 10grid-indicator-text3: 03kunda * r37 / (12 files in 1 directory): update |
| 20:18.21 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: i thought that was blocked |
| 20:18.28 | Repo | 10grid-indicator-text3: 03kunda * r38 / (3 files in 1 directory): sorry new loca strings, please update, thanks |
| 20:18.29 | Xinhuan | hmm it is? |
| 20:18.34 | Repo | 10grid-indicator-text3: 03kunda 04r38-beta * r39 : Tagging as r38-beta |
| 20:18.37 | krka | btw, Kahlua has a slightly different pcall implementation - it returns "false, errormessage, stacktrace" on error |
| 20:18.38 | Repo | 10fu-bar_skills-plus-fu: 03Jaydehawk * r127 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_SkillsPlusFu: |
| 20:18.42 | Repo | - removed level 70 cloth cooldowns (patch 3.0.8) |
| 20:18.43 | krka | and that's the full stacktrace |
| 20:18.46 | Repo | 10grid: 03kunda * r1146 GridLocale-deDE.lua: deDE update |
| 20:18.50 | Repo | 10grid: 03ananhaid * r1147 / (2 files in 1 directory): Grid: |
| 20:18.52 | taleden | i did too actually, because i thought they wanted to keep addons from using that as a loophole to play the game for you |
| 20:18.54 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 20:18.58 | Repo | 10grid-indicator-text3: 03ananhaid * r40 / (2 files in 1 directory): GridIndicatorText3: |
| 20:19.02 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 20:19.05 | nevcairiel | it was always blocked in combat |
| 20:19.06 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): Collect garbage when exiting AH. |
| 20:19.08 | taleden | i.e. that would allow you to put the most-in-need-of-healing person in a particular raid spot, and anyone with that raid frame can just keep clicking it |
| 20:19.11 | Repo | Add tooltips for merchant, buyback, and loot. |
| 20:19.15 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): Allow user to set vendor multiplier. |
| 20:19.17 | nevcairiel | now you cant even move in combat anymoer =P |
| 20:19.20 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Nevcairiel * r647 / (10 files in 2 directories): Update to use the locale app |
| 20:19.24 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Nevcairiel * r648 Locales (7 files in 1 directory): Tweak settings for the generator |
| 20:19.25 | Torhal | Repo just went bugshit. |
| 20:19.29 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r4927 Naxxramas (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: deDE updates |
| 20:19.33 | Repo | - Kel'Thuzad: 3rd (and last) trigger for phase 2 |
| 20:19.36 | ckknight | Torhal: no, it just had a large backlog |
| 20:19.37 | Repo | - Sapphiron: Fix for the triggers |
| 20:19.41 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r169 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 20:19.45 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:19.49 | Torhal | ckknight: I know, but it appears to be bugshit :) |
| 20:19.49 | Repo | 10libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r73 LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 20:19.53 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:19.53 | Xinhuan | wow nevcairiel, i found an old thread |
| 20:19.55 | Xinhuan | "Problematic use of pcall in Ace2 libraries" |
| 20:19.59 | ckknight | Torhal: maybe it's you? |
| 20:19.59 | Repo | 10libbabble-race-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r8 LibBabble-Race-3.0.lua: |
| 20:20.03 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:20.03 | ckknight | Xinhuan: link |
| 20:20.07 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r181 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 20:20.08 | Torhal | ckknight: Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the DB. |
| 20:20.11 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:20.12 | Xinhuan | its really old ckknight ;p |
| 20:20.15 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r79 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:20.15 | ckknight | link! |
| 20:20.17 | nevcairiel | noone ever bothered to "fix" Ace2 |
| 20:20.19 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 20:20.19 | Xinhuan | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=4589&highlight=stack+trace |
| 20:20.22 | nevcairiel | we just did it better in ace3 |
| 20:20.23 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release04 * r170 : Weekly Tag - Week 04 |
| 20:20.27 | Repo | 10libbabble-creaturetype-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release04 * r44 : Weekly Tag - Week 04 |
| 20:20.28 | Xinhuan | and its in a section of the forums that only mods can see |
| 20:20.30 | ckknight | ah, yes |
| 20:20.31 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release04 * r80 : Weekly Tag - Week 04 |
| 20:20.32 | ckknight | I remember that |
| 20:20.35 | Repo | 10libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release04 * r74 : Weekly Tag - Week 04 |
| 20:20.39 | Repo | 10libbabble-race-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release04 * r9 : Weekly Tag - Week 04 |
| 20:20.43 | Repo | 10libbabble-talenttree-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release04 * r19 : Weekly Tag - Week 04 |
| 20:20.45 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: i cant view the page, up my user permissions |
| 20:20.47 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release04 * r182 : Weekly Tag - Week 04 |
| 20:20.51 | Repo | 10chocolatebar: 03Nevcairiel * r5 libs/LibJostle-3.0/LibJostle-3.0-mod.lua: Disable compat mode for modified version of jostle |
| 20:20.55 | nevcairiel | Bam was also the guy who came up with the meta-programming for the Ace3 dispatcher |
| 20:20.57 | Repo | 10o-uf_ammo: 03Ammo * r67 Ammo.lua: experimenting with a grid layout near my character |
| 20:20.58 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: I don't do forums |
| 20:21.00 | krka | that repo sure spams a lot |
| 20:21.05 | ckknight | krka: it had a backlog |
| 20:21.10 | ckknight | looks like Repo's done now |
| 20:21.15 | nevcairiel | amazingly it didnt disconnect |
| 20:21.21 | Repo | 10deformat: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release * r51 : Tagging as 3.0-release |
| 20:21.25 | Repo | 10tiny-stats: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release * r28 : Tagging as 3.0-release |
| 20:21.30 | Repo | 10tabletlib: 03Nevcairiel * r218 TabletLib.toc: TabletLib: .toc update |
| 20:21.35 | Repo | 10tabletlib: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release * r219 : Tagging as 3.0-release |
| 20:21.35 | nevcairiel | its not done |
| 20:21.39 | nevcairiel | i did alot of shit today |
| 20:21.39 | ckknight | nevcairiel: yea, I changed the sleep time between messages to 1.5 seconds |
| 20:21.40 | Repo | 10waterfall-1-0: 03Nevcairiel * r126 Waterfall-1.0.toc: Waterfall-1.0: update toc |
| 20:21.45 | krka | wouldn't it be better to put repo in its own channel, where only repo has voice? |
| 20:21.45 | Repo | 10waterfall-1-0: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release * r127 : Tagging as 3.0-release |
| 20:21.51 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 20:21.51 | krka | like #wowace-repo |
| 20:21.51 | Repo | 10crayonlib: 03Nevcairiel * r62 CrayonLib.toc: CrayonLib: Update toc |
| 20:21.56 | Repo | 10crayonlib: 03Nevcairiel 043.0-release * r63 : Tagging as 3.0-release |
| 20:21.57 | ckknight | krka: you mean like #WoWUIDev-commits? |
| 20:21.58 | Arrowmaster | #wowuidev-commits |
| 20:22.02 | krka | oic |
| 20:22.14 | krka | why is it #wowuidev instead of #wowace? |
| 20:22.14 | ckknight | if you don't like it, you're free to ignore. he'll be done soon |
| 20:22.23 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r50 / (7 files in 1 directory): More fixes. |
| 20:22.25 | ckknight | because #WoWUIDev is neutral |
| 20:22.27 | Repo | 10mtarget: 03gameldar * r14 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:22.30 | ckknight | I guess |
| 20:22.31 | Repo | MTarget:Another test to get the menus working. Changing the handling of the Set Target Menu... item so that it grabs the target via the UnitPopup_ShowMenu function instead. |
| 20:22.31 | Torhal | krka: It usually doesn't do this. It just hasn't been connected since last night and has to get it all out. |
| 20:22.35 | nevcairiel | krka: combined channel for other pages to have their announces in too |
| 20:22.44 | Pneumatus | because wowuidev-commits has commit bots for other places too |
| 20:22.53 | krka | i see |
| 20:23.06 | Fisker- | ckknight |
| 20:23.10 | Fisker- | do you have battletoads? |
| 20:23.14 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro 04v.1.14 * r278 : Tagging as v.1.14 |
| 20:23.19 | ckknight | Fisker-: I beat that game |
| 20:23.28 | Xinhuan | taleden: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=9537 |
| 20:23.31 | nevcairiel | still missing my bt4 commits |
| 20:23.42 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.5 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 20:23.44 | Xinhuan | that thread shows an example of where pcall failed big time ;p |
| 20:23.46 | Repo | 895786a: Updated .toc |
| 20:23.48 | Repo | 0143aa8: Updated zhCN locale |
| 20:23.48 | nevcairiel | ha! |
| 20:23.49 | Dark_Elf | lol |
| 20:23.53 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 044.2.5 * f79fc38 /: [new tag] Tagged as 4.2.5 |
| 20:23.56 | Xinhuan | that stack trace was ONE LINE long ;p |
| 20:24.02 | Xinhuan | and that was the error |
| 20:24.03 | Repo | 10bartender4: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 4.2.5-1-ge13222b / (13 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Update to use the locale system |
| 20:24.05 | *** join/#wowace exor674 (n=dre@linode2a.andreanall.com) |
| 20:24.08 | Xinhuan | AceComm-2.0-49773 (Ace2):344: bad argument #1 to 'string_char' (invalid value) |
| 20:24.19 | nevcairiel | yeah we never managed to fix that |
| 20:24.23 | Xinhuan | we did |
| 20:24.25 | Xinhuan | or i did |
| 20:24.26 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): Initial Commit |
| 20:24.48 | Xinhuan | post #26 outlines the problem |
| 20:25.00 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r3 / (4 files in 1 directory): Adding project files and .pkgmeta |
| 20:25.05 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r4 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added AceComm-3.0 to pkgmeta and embeds.xml |
| 20:25.11 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r533 Zul'Drak/Eck_the_Ferocious.lua: Personal notification for Eck Residue |
| 20:25.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r4928 Naxxramas/Kelthuzad.lua: BigWigs: Naxxramas: |
| 20:25.19 | ckknight | Repo has 26 more messages |
| 20:25.20 | Repo | - Kel'Thuzad: Fix spam issue(Frost Blast soon warn) and Cleanup |
| 20:25.27 | Repo | 10auto-bar: 03Azethoth * r742 AutoBarButton.lua: |
| 20:25.30 | Repo | -- Support for hierarchical settings (AutoBar / bar / button level) |
| 20:25.34 | Repo | -- Make Popup on Shift hierarchical. |
| 20:25.42 | Xinhuan | can't u slap a +b on it for 1 minute |
| 20:25.46 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 037destiny * r534 Zul'Drak/Eck_the_Ferocious.lua: koKR Update |
| 20:25.50 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r5 / (4 files in 1 directory): Added quick and dirty sync methods. |
| 20:25.55 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro * r649 GatherMate.toc: GatherMate: udpating toc version for a release |
| 20:25.59 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03kagaro 04v1.0.12 * r650 : Tagging as v1.0.12 |
| 20:26.04 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 3.0.3-2-3-gdc32153 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] fix .pkgmeta |
| 20:26.22 | durcyn | it's almost caught up, that commit was only 5 hours ago. |
| 20:26.27 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:26.30 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r6 / (3 files in 1 directory): Updated localization. Localized entire mod. |
| 20:26.36 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 3.0.8-release-1-g8884394 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] fix pkgmeta paths, woops. |
| 20:26.42 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r7 Core.lua: Fixed a couple of syncing issues. |
| 20:26.46 | Repo | Changed it to send sync start and sync end messages. |
| 20:26.50 | Repo | Check player name to prevent points from updating if sending sync data. |
| 20:27.04 | Repo | 10o-uf_ammo: 03Ammo * r68 Ammo.lua: |
| 20:27.08 | Repo | fix the extra grid frames a bit, yeah you don't want this clutter normally, but I need to test this to see if it works for me :) |
| 20:27.27 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r133 dbgen.rb.txt: GatherMate_Data: updated northrend node names |
| 20:27.42 | sb|work | ah nevcairiel |
| 20:28.02 | Repo | 10procodile: 03Zarnivoop * r84 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 20:28.04 | sb|work | i dont get "remove vendor guy" buttons anymore on my mammoth |
| 20:28.06 | Repo | Fix periodic damage tracking, add mana regen tracking (Replenishment primarily), again make periodic damage not count as procs |
| 20:28.08 | sb|work | do you know whats wrong there? |
| 20:28.19 | nevcairiel | I don't have a mammoth is wrong |
| 20:28.35 | Repo | 10minimapster: 03Nevcairiel * r44 MiniMapster.toc: Set X-Category to "Map" |
| 20:28.38 | sb|work | meh :) |
| 20:28.41 | Repo | 10grid: 037destiny * r1148 GridLocale-koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 20:28.54 | nevcairiel | I think Repo is done |
| 20:29.04 | nevcairiel | sb|work: you could play around with the settings |
| 20:29.10 | nevcairiel | sb|work: where did it appear beforeß |
| 20:29.11 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 20:29.16 | sb|work | ah okay |
| 20:29.17 | ckknight | yea, Repo's done |
| 20:29.18 | sb|work | nevermind |
| 20:29.27 | sb|work | uncheck "hide on vehicle" for pet bar |
| 20:29.28 | Xinhuan | woo spam over! |
| 20:29.36 | Xinhuan | my turn to spam! |
| 20:29.38 | Xinhuan | j/k |
| 20:30.27 | sb|work | nevcairiel: its no possesbar but pet bar for mammoth, so i couldn't see that bar :) |
| 20:30.41 | nevcairiel | sb|work: its somewhat complicated, on the chopper the petbar has one "Attack" button, and people are annoyed, on the mammoth it has the useful buttons :/ |
| 20:31.18 | Arrowmaster | tell them to deal with the attack button or change the setting themselves |
| 20:32.21 | Repo | 10libunitid: 03taleden * r10 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:32.24 | Repo | - library cache update log now works when logging is already enabled at ui-load; previously only worked when turning logging on while playing |
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| 20:34.10 | sb|work | nevcairiel: is it possible to get spell ids for predefinied pet bars/possess bars? |
| 20:34.14 | sb|work | e.g. that mammoth thingie |
| 20:34.19 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 20:34.32 | sb|work | oh |
| 20:34.32 | Funkeh` | hey |
| 20:34.35 | sb|work | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=61449 |
| 20:34.37 | Arrowmaster | you probably could by using the mammoths guid |
| 20:34.43 | Arrowmaster | but imho its not worth it |
| 20:36.48 | Funkeh` | my pic of the day http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5608/teegan3084mj0.jpg |
| 20:37.25 | Fisker- | DOGS |
| 20:37.28 | Fisker- | get them! |
| 20:37.40 | Funkeh` | It's a shit pic |
| 20:37.46 | Funkeh` | I used the wrong iso by acident |
| 20:37.49 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.18 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1449 RecipeDB/ARL-Inscription.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:38.21 | Repo | - fixed Inscription recipes skill requirements |
| 20:38.30 | ckknight | Funkeh`: my parents have the same kind of dog |
| 20:38.35 | Fisker- | wats iso? |
| 20:39.14 | Funkeh` | http://digital-photography-school.com/iso-settings |
| 20:39.20 | sb|work | Fisker-: windows me iso |
| 20:39.26 | durcyn | ISO5800 |
| 20:39.34 | durcyn | but yeah, what funkeh linked |
| 20:39.58 | Funkeh` | I thought I had it at 100 but apparently it was at 800 |
| 20:40.03 | Funkeh` | and now I can't get her to sit still |
| 20:41.04 | Funkeh` | ckknight, King Charles Spaniel |
| 20:41.10 | ckknight | yep |
| 20:41.16 | ckknight | my parents have a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel |
| 20:41.21 | ckknight | used to have one the same coloring |
| 20:41.28 | ckknight | but they got a new black and tan one a little while ago |
| 20:42.20 | Fisker- | zomg |
| 20:42.23 | Fisker- | you learn something every day |
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| 20:44.22 | Repo | 10mbb: 03Pericles * r43 MBB.lua: MBB:- |
| 20:44.25 | Repo | Fixed stack overflow at line 438 caused by recursion |
| 20:45.11 | Groktar | areweraiding.com |
| 20:45.40 | pentium166 | that answer is wrong |
| 20:46.19 | Repo | 10mbb: 03Pericles 04v0.62 * r44 : MBB:- |
| 20:46.22 | Repo | release v0.62 to curse.com |
| 20:47.56 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1450 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 20:47.59 | Repo | - fixed factions of some cooking recipes |
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| 20:50.29 | taleden | is it possible to do something like "_G = setmetatable({foo=bar}, {__index=_G})" ? |
| 20:50.50 | taleden | (not that I'd want to, just wondering if someone else might) |
| 20:51.48 | nevcairiel | that would probably be possible |
| 20:51.50 | nevcairiel | but why? |
| 20:52.25 | taleden | if it were done, would "local var = foo" evaluate as bar? or only "local var = _G['foo']" |
| 20:52.49 | nevcairiel | the first should work |
| 20:52.59 | nevcairiel | but i'm not sure how replacing _G behaves |
| 20:53.31 | nevcairiel | probably might not work after all, when i think about it |
| 20:53.40 | nevcairiel | _G is just a pointer, and you only change the pointer |
| 20:54.03 | taleden | so if somebody did something weird, then "global = foo" and "_G['global'] = foo" might not be equivalent |
| 20:54.18 | nevcairiel | if someone breaks _G, ya |
| 20:54.24 | taleden | k, thanks |
| 20:54.45 | nevcairiel | Altough i doubt any addon try to prevent breakage when _G is broken |
| 20:54.50 | nevcairiel | you could always build your own |
| 20:54.57 | nevcairiel | local _G = getfenv(0) |
| 20:55.20 | nevcairiel | i think that was the func, lol |
| 20:55.35 | Arrowmaster | if you set _G then you really set _G._G |
| 20:55.53 | Arrowmaster | if somebody does local _G = getfenv(0) they avoid your breakage |
| 20:56.37 | taleden | basically my debugging addon loads before anybody else (with the "!" prefix trick), and I'm trying to make sure I wrap any way that a particular global might be accessed |
| 20:56.50 | taleden | so if its theoretically possible for "global" ~= "_G.global" then I want to wrap both versions |
| 20:57.26 | nevcairiel | I doubt any addon actually changes _G |
| 20:57.29 | taleden | even if such a case is already pretty screwy, it's not so hard to account for it anyway, at least partly |
| 20:57.30 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt worry about it |
| 20:58.08 | taleden | well, my code already worries about it using one extra line, which I'll just leave because I don't think it hurts anything |
| 20:59.18 | Xinhuan | well, when you access a global, Lua implicitly retrieves it from getfenv(0) |
| 20:59.37 | Xinhuan | using _G[] to access it is explicit, and _G itself is a global |
| 20:59.50 | nevcairiel | you can also use getglobal() |
| 21:00.01 | nevcairiel | which essentially yields the same result anyway |
| 21:00.13 | Torhal | ...with the added overhead of a function call. |
| 21:00.42 | Fisker- | i will |
| 21:01.18 | Xinhuan | if you do _G._G = nil, it doesn't really break anything other than addons that try to access the _G global |
| 21:02.00 | nevcairiel | for k in pairs(_G) do _G[k] = nil end |
| 21:02.01 | nevcairiel | ^ |
| 21:02.08 | taleden | hm, I would have guessed that _G._G=nil would just "unmask" the real _G, in case someone had overwritten the pointer |
| 21:02.25 | taleden | sort of like nilling a table property that is __index'd |
| 21:02.40 | Xinhuan | it doesn't ;p |
| 21:02.45 | taleden | I see :) |
| 21:02.47 | Xinhuan | _G is just a variable name like any other |
| 21:02.47 | nevcairiel | you can try getmetatable on _G |
| 21:02.52 | nevcairiel | and see if there is something in |
| 21:03.02 | Xinhuan | _A is as valid a variable name ;p |
| 21:03.03 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt |
| 21:03.06 | Xinhuan | as is _ itself |
| 21:04.10 | Xinhuan | _G by default just refers to the result of getfenv(0) |
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| 21:08.51 | Xinhuan | http://www.lua.org/pil/14.3.html :) |
| 21:17.40 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Shefki * r224 / (8 files in 8 directories): Update the modules interface numbers as well. |
| 21:19.04 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r35 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:19.07 | Repo | Add a Glyphs module to assist in identification of materials for glyphs. This module is separate from the main addon and can be enabled or disabled independently. Right now it is still missing the majority of minor glyphs, but they will be added soon. |
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| 21:24.59 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/libunitid/. LibUnitID. taleden (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 21:25.32 | Xinhuan | ~pil |
| 21:25.33 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 21:26.47 | taleden | thanks nev |
| 21:27.40 | Fisker- | hey Kaelten |
| 21:27.43 | Fisker- | do you have battletoads? |
| 21:31.12 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/knrunes/. KN Runes. kollektiv (Manager/Author), Nathyrra187 (Documenter). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 21:31.53 | Torhal | Now, if someone could explain to killektiv that commiting each of his 120 files individually is bad practice... |
| 21:32.04 | Torhal | s/killektiv/kollektiv/ |
| 21:32.10 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 21:49.10 | Jaxon | So |
| 21:49.24 | Jaxon | Why would eSATA enclosures say they have a drive size limit on their product page. |
| 21:49.25 | ckknight | so |
| 21:50.46 | taleden | maybe thats easier for consumers to know than some obscure SATA protocol version number, but all drives over size X have to use that, and the enclosure doesn't support it? dunno |
| 21:51.22 | nevcairiel | I didn't know there was a size limit on the sata protocol |
| 21:51.26 | nevcairiel | maybe their control just sucks |
| 21:51.51 | nevcairiel | (well there is some size limit for sure, but it should be way up there) |
| 21:52.18 | nevcairiel | 48-bit currently, iirc |
| 21:52.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont know much about eSATA but i thought it could only handle 4 drives or so per connection? |
| 21:52.42 | Pneumatus | hahah |
| 21:52.46 | Pneumatus | nef has a DK class call |
| 21:53.04 | nevcairiel | ya |
| 21:53.09 | nevcairiel | I think he owns them too |
| 21:53.46 | Pneumatus | he deathgrips the whole raid |
| 21:53.54 | Pneumatus | or all DKs |
| 21:53.55 | Pneumatus | or something |
| 21:54.03 | nevcairiel | i heard the whole raid |
| 21:54.14 | Pneumatus | wowhead comments seem to indicate its the whole raid too |
| 21:56.53 | taleden | wonders if its reasonable to automatically unregister any callback that throws an error |
| 21:59.17 | Arrowmaster | yes it is unreasonable |
| 22:00.03 | Xinhuan | i'll agree with that one |
| 22:00.37 | Jaxon | nevcairiel: there isn't on the SATA protocol, which is why the whole idea of it didn't make any sense to me. |
| 22:00.54 | nevcairiel | Jaxon: i bet their controller is just shit |
| 22:00.57 | Xinhuan | i just picked up a [The Eye of Divinity] |
| 22:00.59 | nevcairiel | whats the limit? |
| 22:01.02 | Xinhuan | now it says <Right Click to Read> |
| 22:01.06 | Xinhuan | on the tooltip |
| 22:01.15 | sb|work | wtf is wrong with sartharion blazes |
| 22:01.19 | Xinhuan | so i right click it and it says "You can never use that item." |
| 22:01.25 | Xinhuan | >.< |
| 22:01.27 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 22:01.27 | sb|work | we had like 1 blaze / 30s every spawn, thats ok |
| 22:01.33 | sb|work | now we have ~3-4 blazes / spawn |
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| 22:02.00 | nevcairiel | sb|work: apparently he spawns more if the fire thingys hit a player |
| 22:02.01 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 22:02.12 | nevcairiel | I did think that we had more blazes on our kill yesterday |
| 22:03.00 | Pneumatus | we 24manned our 3drake kill this week, slack dps not being online on time :< |
| 22:03.09 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 22:03.19 | nevcairiel | it was only our second kill now |
| 22:03.23 | nevcairiel | still somewhat "hard" |
| 22:03.28 | Pneumatus | was our 3rd |
| 22:03.29 | nevcairiel | but the kill was very good |
| 22:03.39 | nevcairiel | only 2 dead and we could rezz |
| 22:03.50 | Pneumatus | did you have an elemental shaman top damage done? |
| 22:03.56 | Toadkiller | gah forums and projects are down. Anyone know if socd got noobed recently? holding shift doesnt break it out of its endless cycle of trying to do the wrong thing. |
| 22:04.10 | Toadkiller | *any longer |
| 22:04.13 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: didnt have an elemental |
| 22:04.17 | nevcairiel | our top was a warrior |
| 22:04.39 | Pneumatus | magma totems are doing some really sick dps |
| 22:05.22 | nevcairiel | http://wow.nevcairiel.net/reports/01-09/sws-sartharion-1233004234/ |
| 22:05.25 | Gnarfoz | <@nevcairiel> sb|work: apparently he spawns more if the fire thingys hit a player <-- he doesn't spawn more, that's *what* spawns them |
| 22:05.43 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: nah empty hits spawn one too occasionally |
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| 22:05.47 | Gnarfoz | if 25 people would get Gotta Go When The Volcano Blows in the same try, there should theoretically be 0 blazes :D |
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| 22:06.01 | Pneumatus | nevcairiel: that combatlog from outside the portals? |
| 22:06.03 | Gnarfoz | probably not empty, then :D they're a bit splashy, sadly :\ |
| 22:06.32 | nevcairiel | Pneumatus: we only take portals once after second dragon died, but yes, its my log |
| 22:06.49 | Gnarfoz | portal once only, after 3.0.8? :o |
| 22:06.54 | Kaelten | our hosters are fucking with us guys, sorry for the outage |
| 22:06.55 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 22:07.03 | Gnarfoz | what kind of CD rotation have you got going on your MT then :o |
| 22:07.19 | Gnarfoz | he must be eating 75k breaths all the time |
| 22:07.27 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 22:07.52 | nevcairiel | paladin hand, pain supression, and guardian spirit |
| 22:07.53 | Gnarfoz | shadron acolyte + vesperon acolyte + shadron = boom :O |
| 22:07.56 | nevcairiel | only those 3 |
| 22:08.05 | Gnarfoz | those are all on 3min cd |
| 22:08.08 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 22:08.09 | Gnarfoz | that's way not enough |
| 22:08.11 | nevcairiel | only need them once |
| 22:08.14 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 22:08.18 | nevcairiel | in that time shadron has to be dead |
| 22:08.19 | Gnarfoz | ok your dps is awesomesauce then |
| 22:08.30 | nevcairiel | we heroism through tenebron |
| 22:08.34 | nevcairiel | so he is dead when shadron lands |
| 22:08.43 | Pneumatus | http://vision.u64.org/sws-090125.1/sws-sartharion-1232909025/index.html was our kill this week |
| 22:08.56 | Gnarfoz | indeed awesomesauce. we're happy we manage to kill tenebron before seconds eggs so far ^^ |
| 22:09.22 | nevcairiel | we usually have like 3% on tenebron when shadron lands |
| 22:09.30 | nevcairiel | so tank can do some aggro before DPS swicthes |
| 22:10.07 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 22:10.07 | Bruners | is wowace down or just super slow ? |
| 22:10.07 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 22:10.07 | Gnarfoz | even so |
| 22:10.07 | Jaxon | nevcairiel: I don't know how you feel with the default stasis colours, but feel free to rip off my stylesheet http://flexo.jaxon.ca/logs/ |
| 22:10.08 | nevcairiel | Jaxon: i hate it |
| 22:10.08 | Gnarfoz | shadron's gonna take what, at least 30% longer than tenebron did because of no heroism |
| 22:10.08 | nevcairiel | i was going to steal WWS color or so |
| 22:10.08 | nevcairiel | looks at link |
| 22:10.20 | Jaxon | Look at one of the specific fights to get a better idea. |
| 22:10.25 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: yeah but its only critical once vesperon spawns his acolyte |
| 22:10.29 | Pneumatus | i keep meaning to rewrite the stasis css also :P |
| 22:10.34 | Gnarfoz | indeed, but that's quite soon |
| 22:10.44 | Mikk | qq wowace.com down |
| 22:10.45 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 22:10.46 | nevcairiel | it worked |
| 22:10.55 | Jaxon | Pneumatus: take mine then as well, at the very least it'll do for a spell until you get around to changing it for yourself. |
| 22:10.57 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 22:11.17 | NeoTron | Jaxon: hmm |
| 22:11.30 | sb|work | nevcairiel: do you kill vesperon disciple? |
| 22:11.33 | NeoTron | Jaxon: much better with dark bg et |
| 22:11.39 | nevcairiel | sb|work: after shadron is dead |
| 22:11.50 | sb|work | i see |
| 22:11.55 | Jaxon | NeoTron: yeah, being colourblind, ligh tblue didn't work well against bright whites for me, not enough constrast. |
| 22:12.01 | sb|work | so you dont heal thorugh twilight torment |
| 22:12.07 | sb|work | which seems pretty much impossible to me :/ |
| 22:12.10 | Pneumatus | am halfway through rewriting my page indexer atm |
| 22:12.51 | gix | does stasiscl handle huge combatlogs? >3gb |
| 22:12.51 | Gnarfoz | the 3.0.8 change was probably intended to ensure just that, sb|work |
| 22:12.51 | nevcairiel | sb|work: have to kill shadron acolyte anyway, while you're down there just kill the vesperon guy |
| 22:12.51 | Pneumatus | so i dont have a huge list of every boss/kill on one page |
| 22:12.51 | Pneumatus | Gnarfoz: no idea, i parse 1 raid at a time which is like 150-200mb tops |
| 22:13.04 | Jaxon | Pneumatus: let me know when that is finished, the one I have there is a temporary thing that ended up becoming long-lasting. |
| 22:13.05 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: autocomplete fail! :p |
| 22:13.09 | nevcairiel | stasiscl is already pretty slow for me |
| 22:13.16 | nevcairiel | a 3gb log would take a few hours :p |
| 22:13.24 | nevcairiel | (my webserver is pretty low on cpu) |
| 22:13.29 | Jaxon | gix: the better question is what kind of logs are 4gb in length? :P |
| 22:13.40 | Pneumatus | Gnarfoz: reading fail actually :P |
| 22:13.50 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: worse, but more excusable :p |
| 22:13.53 | nevcairiel | Jaxon: thanks that skin is much better |
| 22:14.05 | Jaxon | Pneumatus, nevcairiel: a friend of mine is also working on an auto upload/parse PHP script. I'll see if I can find his test page. |
| 22:14.11 | gix | Jaxon: my combatlog |
| 22:14.18 | Pneumatus | Jaxon: at the moment i split each log parse to its own folder, then index each separately, like http://vision.u64.org/ |
| 22:14.19 | nevcairiel | I tried to write something in python |
| 22:14.36 | sb|work | nevcairiel: well but shadron acolyte would do after vesperon is dead!? |
| 22:14.38 | Jaxon | bbl, meeting |
| 22:14.46 | Pneumatus | the root index is done by adding some meta information into each "raid" directory to give it a name, etc |
| 22:16.05 | nevcairiel | sb|work: well shadron acolyte still increases fire dmg on the tank by 50% or so, so we kill him |
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| 22:16.08 | gix | Jaxon: been keeping my combat/chatlogs sind early 2007. (though those 3gb are wotlk-only) |
| 22:17.23 | Pneumatus | stasis would probably cope with a 3gb file fine as long as you didnt do -overall |
| 22:17.42 | sb|work | nevcairiel: hmm i see |
| 22:17.44 | Pneumatus | or -trash |
| 22:17.46 | sb|work | nevcairiel: did you try 10s? |
| 22:17.49 | sb|work | or only 25? |
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| 22:17.56 | nevcairiel | personally, only 25 |
| 22:18.05 | sb|work | err ok, talking about 10s :) |
| 22:18.24 | nevcairiel | you should've looked at the log, its a clear give away that its 25 people =P |
| 22:18.32 | sb|work | pffff ;p |
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| 22:20.32 | Pneumatus | i need to improve my script which works out what instances a whole logfile is for |
| 22:20.39 | Pneumatus | because regexing every line is a bit retarded |
| 22:20.50 | Pneumatus | it would be better to just run grep on it |
| 22:21.02 | nevcairiel | IANAL? |
| 22:21.22 | Gnarfoz | quite probably, you're not |
| 22:21.24 | Arrowmaster | are you asking what that stands for? |
| 22:21.33 | Pneumatus | if you're asking, you probably arent. |
| 22:21.36 | nevcairiel | yeah, i missed the word ebfore it .P |
| 22:21.41 | Pneumatus | i am not a lawyer |
| 22:21.47 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 22:21.50 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 22:21.51 | nevcairiel | that makes sense |
| 22:22.23 | nevcairiel | anyway, sleepy time, damn exam in the morning |
| 22:23.37 | NeoTron | I wanted to see if I could make an alternative "index page" that shows "raids" rather than individual encounters |
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| 22:23.59 | NeoTron | except I see now that you laready have that Pneumatus - is that something I could get? :P |
| 22:24.30 | NeoTron | hmm I didn't know SWS had an overall stat too |
| 22:25.51 | Pneumatus | i've achieved it by running a script which does some messing about and runs the stasis parses |
| 22:26.33 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.45 | NeoTron | I've been running the statis parse on my wow box and uploading the result |
| 22:27.08 | Pneumatus | i actually just run a cronjob, which picks up logs i upload to a certain folder |
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| 22:28.56 | NeoTron | I've considered that |
| 22:29.27 | Pneumatus | http://ace.pastey.net/107127 + http://ace.pastey.net/107128 but the latter getraid.pl is a load of shit and takes forever due to regexing every line in the log |
| 22:29.34 | Repo | 10libunitid: 03taleden * r11 / (2 files in 2 directories): - callbacks changed to use xpcall() instead of pcall() |
| 22:29.37 | Repo | - an error is now thrown if a string callback cannot be resolved to a function on the handler |
| 22:29.40 | Repo | - standalone utilies are now slightly less picky about the core library versions they support |
| 22:30.59 | NeoTron | you parse the WoWCombatLog file? |
| 22:31.58 | Repo | 10chatter: 03mikk * r225 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:32.01 | Repo | AltNames: Now has a (default on) option to look for character names in guildnotes. This happens automatically and there is no need to hit an "Import" button. |
| 22:32.04 | Repo | There is also a (default on) option to use the entire note from "*alt*" rank characters if no proper name is found in their note. |
| 22:32.13 | Pneumatus | yeh, i parse that myself before stasis to work out what instances the log file is for |
| 22:32.25 | NeoTron | if I might ask - why?: |
| 22:32.58 | Pneumatus | so i can rename the logfiles for storage, and so I can give the raid a "nice" name for the root index page |
| 22:33.02 | Jaxon | gix: it'd be easy enough to grep the logs into seperate dates just for sorting purposes. It seems quite silly to keep a single continous log. |
| 22:33.27 | Pneumatus | there's a project on gcode for splitting logfiles by time |
| 22:33.44 | NeoTron | can't you do that after stasis runs instead? |
| 22:33.47 | Pneumatus | http://code.google.com/p/wowclsp/ |
| 22:33.47 | Repo | 10procodile: 037destiny * r85 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added koKR localization(thx WindStep) |
| 22:34.13 | gix | Jaxon: keeping one requires the least maintenance. you just let it be. |
| 22:34.32 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: technically i could pipe the output of the ./stasis runs to file or something, and then grep that for the bossnames to work out the instances |
| 22:34.56 | Jaxon | gix: oh, by all means, do what you want, but if you ever want to archive the older stuff ;) |
| 22:35.01 | Pneumatus | or i could just grep the logfile, rather than regex matching every line |
| 22:35.34 | NeoTron | how does it handle a multi-instance log file? |
| 22:35.57 | Jaxon | Pneumatus: statis puts some meta data into the directories I think. I shoudl check. |
| 22:36.02 | NeoTron | data.xml |
| 22:36.26 | Pneumatus | yeh, that meta-info is for each boss kill |
| 22:36.30 | gix | Pneumatus: i already hacked something together quite a long time ago to split those logs (usually not by exact days, but by some time of inactivity during 0-6 in the morning), and it still was far more efficient than wowclsp because it didn't touch every line. |
| 22:37.25 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: the meta-info the script i use generates is something like <raid start="1231113600" comment="Naxxramas / Sartharion / Malygos / Archavon" dir="sws-090105.1" /> |
| 22:37.32 | NeoTron | ah |
| 22:37.41 | Pneumatus | however, i might be able to achieve something similar using the -history flag per raid |
| 22:38.08 | NeoTron | yep it has all the raids |
| 22:38.36 | Pneumatus | well, assuming you put each raid into its own directory then run -history on that, the metainfo will only be per raid |
| 22:38.42 | Pneumatus | not for every boss kill on every raid ever |
| 22:38.49 | NeoTron | right |
| 22:38.49 | Pneumatus | which is the default behaviour |
| 22:39.10 | Pneumatus | in which case, a custom index page should be able to read it and parse it |
| 22:39.49 | Jaxon | is the -history flag new? |
| 22:39.52 | NeoTron | of course there's a file raid.json that lists all the "raids" for a while too |
| 22:39.57 | Jaxon | I haven' tbeen keeping up with development. |
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| 22:40.10 | Pneumatus | nah, its been there for a while and supposedly is used by some WWS ripoff frontends |
| 22:40.17 | Pneumatus | which i've never been able to locate source for |
| 22:40.44 | Zhinjio | Buh |
| 22:40.47 | Jaxon | I wonder what it generates. |
| 22:40.56 | Pneumatus | stasis history -dir /var/www/sws apparently |
| 22:41.07 | Jaxon | Yeah, just found that. Running it now to see. |
| 22:41.26 | Pneumatus | wow, thats pretty quick |
| 22:41.40 | NeoTron | the raid.json is the data used for the top left link to different encounters in the parse |
| 22:41.42 | Pneumatus | generates wws-history/data.xml and copies the extras/ |
| 22:42.12 | NeoTron | you could use that for grouping too in theory |
| 22:42.15 | Repo | 10sdkp: 03ddumont * r46 / (2 files in 1 directory): bug fixes... apparently there's a hunter mod. |
| 22:44.23 | Pneumatus | that wws-history/data.xml is basically a merge of every sws-*/data.xml |
| 22:45.49 | Pneumatus | infact, that's exactly what it is, with an extra root xml node |
| 22:46.15 | Jaxon | And it overwrote my stylesheets. |
| 22:46.40 | Pneumatus | yeh, it writes the ones from stasisc/extras/* it seems |
| 22:46.58 | Jaxon | Thank god I hav ebackups. I'd be pissed. |
| 22:47.16 | Pneumatus | was gonna say, do you need them back |
| 22:47.21 | Pneumatus | ive still got your site open :P |
| 22:48.11 | Pneumatus | i also need to add something into my parse scripts to mess with raid.json to add navigation to the parent folder |
| 22:50.24 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 037destiny * r101 GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: GridStatusRaidDebuff: |
| 22:50.27 | Repo | - Fix Chains of Kel'Thuzad |
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| 22:53.36 | Jaxon | I think this weekend I'll look at the database support in stasis and see what it is capable of. It would be great to just have everythign in a databse I could query at will. |
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| 23:03.04 | Pneumatus | muahahaha |
| 23:03.05 | Pneumatus | find . -name raid.json | xargs sed -i 's/^\[/\[{"dname":"..\/","long":"Raid Index"},/' |
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| 23:04.00 | Primer | Hrmm, anyone have a URL for that patch notes of today's patch? |
| 23:04.17 | Primer | I mean, just the diff between 3.0.8 and today |
| 23:04.30 | Zhinjio | I can summarize |
| 23:04.41 | Zhinjio | "All the shit that was supposed to work in 3.0.8 that didn't" |
| 23:04.45 | Pneumatus | 3 tooltip fixes wasnt it? :P |
| 23:04.50 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 23:05.03 | Primer | so...arena calc? WG? |
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| 23:05.19 | Primer | I noticed the entire zone didn't lag while WG was going on |
| 23:05.26 | Pneumatus | there's a few notes on mmo-champ |
| 23:05.26 | Primer | err, entire continent |
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| 23:06.58 | Primer | Ritual of Summoning on a 2 minutes cooldown |
| 23:07.05 | Pneumatus | ah, i remember why i need to work out what instance the logs are for before I run ./stasis |
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| 23:07.15 | Primer | Wasn't that supposed to be like making a summoning stone? |
| 23:07.29 | Pneumatus | so i know if i need to increment the folder count in the case where i parse 2 logs of the same run |
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| 23:07.41 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: what's that supposed to do? :P |
| 23:07.43 | Pneumatus | it was, Primer, but never made it in but the cooldown remained |
| 23:07.44 | Primer | I recall that was in 3.0.8's patch notes, but here they're implying that it's simply removing the 2m CD (which was only asthetic, you could still cast it) |
| 23:08.06 | NeoTron | the sed script I mean |
| 23:08.14 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r36 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: |
| 23:08.17 | Repo | add the rest of the minor glyphs, all glyphs should be listed now |
| 23:08.28 | Pneumatus | NeoTron: it finds the start of every raid.json and adds a link to the parent directory |
| 23:08.41 | Pneumatus | so you can navigate up to the parent rather than just to other bosses in that parse |
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| 23:08.59 | Primer | Anyhow, to answer my own question: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697489930&sid=1 |
| 23:09.22 | NeoTron | ah |
| 23:09.55 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r37 Core.lua: minor tweak in frame scripts |
| 23:10.07 | Pneumatus | omg, grats blizz, you finally fixed the quest text of "Send Them Packing" so people don't have to guess that you need to /raise at the mules |
| 23:10.34 | Primer | Last night I did the Frenzy/Oracles quests |
| 23:10.51 | Primer | and when it came time to kill the Lich, I didn't realize I was choosing a faction... |
| 23:11.10 | Pneumatus | fortunatly you can just kill the lich again and kill the other one if you want to swap :P |
| 23:11.13 | Grum | hehe if you'd read the quest it would be clear indeed |
| 23:11.19 | Grum | aye but that swapping is a daily :) |
| 23:11.21 | Primer | I ended up with Frenzy, since I was soloing the Lich, and was under pressure to get it done before I died |
| 23:11.39 | Zhinjio | Toadkiller: I figured out what was going wrong with Currency |
| 23:11.40 | Primer | Pneumatus: ahh pre-emptive question answering! I like that! |
| 23:11.43 | Grum | starting with frenzy is generally good; most people want to be oracles in the end for the pets |
| 23:12.01 | Primer | So Frenzy gets you what? Some mana pot? |
| 23:12.07 | Pneumatus | frenzy is like some crap pots |
| 23:12.14 | Grum | a wolf-transform-pot-thingie |
| 23:12.18 | Grum | funny but meh |
| 23:12.24 | Pneumatus | yeh, and not that rare really |
| 23:12.25 | Grum | but for achievements you want to get both to exalted |
| 23:12.37 | Grum | in the time that you do that you can get 2-3 of those pots |
| 23:12.47 | Grum | likely you will get that single 'special item' from it without problems |
| 23:13.01 | omega_ | anyone know of an addon that can take auctioneer prices and compare to craftable items (for instance glyphs) and give me the ones that would make the most money? |
| 23:13.03 | Pneumatus | if you're going for achievements stay with wolvar till you get the transformy thing and exalted, then switch to oracles |
| 23:13.07 | Grum | then swap oracles and get your pets and the second part of their exalted achievement |
| 23:13.17 | Pneumatus | plus, the minipets from oracles are BoU, so you can sell them :) |
| 23:13.20 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme 07default, nextgen * r11 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added tag v2.0-beta for changeset cc7f99a5dd43 |
| 23:13.21 | jnwhiteh | omega_: if you find it PLEASE let me know :P |
| 23:13.23 | Repo | - merged "nextgen" branch into "default" |
| 23:13.26 | Repo | - TODO provide options to show additional details (ID and expiry) |
| 23:13.29 | Repo | - instance re-ordering now working |
| 23:13.29 | Primer | BoU? |
| 23:13.30 | Pneumatus | as you'll get duplicates in your hunt for the green protodrake |
| 23:13.32 | Repo | - shown instances setup now ordered based on tooltip order |
| 23:13.33 | Pneumatus | bind on use |
| 23:13.34 | jnwhiteh | omega_: if not, write it and send me a PM |
| 23:13.36 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 23:13.46 | Primer | oh |
| 23:13.48 | Grum | i already bought one of those drakes :p |
| 23:13.53 | Grum | miniprotodrakepet |
| 23:14.09 | Pneumatus | they are the rarest of the minipets, but theres also a green protodrake mount from oracles :P |
| 23:14.11 | omega_ | jnwhiteh: hehe, I suck badly at lua :) |
| 23:14.17 | Pneumatus | which is like 5% drop |
| 23:14.22 | Primer | I've been reading EJ's warlock forums, and I still can't get any consensus regarding the "best raid DPS spec" |
| 23:14.24 | Grum | so only 20 weeks! |
| 23:14.36 | Grum | Primer: its so depending on which fight atm |
| 23:14.40 | Primer | the posts are mostly long complicated graphs/stats/spreadsheets |
| 23:14.44 | Primer | or mumbling idiots |
| 23:15.01 | Grum | just go with what you like |
| 23:15.02 | Primer | Grum: well, I've been topping damage on fights like Patchwerk |
| 23:15.08 | Pneumatus | also, you will die a little inside every time you wait a week and get aged yolks |
| 23:15.09 | Primer | by a considerable margin, even |
| 23:15.18 | Primer | right now I'm 0/41/30 |
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| 23:15.23 | Primer | I like the fel guard |
| 23:15.26 | Grum | and that is the 3 button spec :p |
| 23:15.31 | Primer | I actually topped damage on Heigan too! |
| 23:15.32 | Gnarfoz | our affli wl owns pretty hard |
| 23:15.32 | Grum | i hate those classes ;) |
| 23:15.38 | Primer | and my FG lived the entire time |
| 23:16.03 | Pneumatus | is affliction still the best raid spec if you only have 1? |
| 23:16.11 | Grum | the number doesnt matter anymore |
| 23:16.19 | Pneumatus | was it due to haunt? |
| 23:16.21 | Grum | the debuffslots are unlimited (but only 40 shown) |
| 23:16.38 | Pneumatus | there was something that afflocks were doing that was causing stacking problems |
| 23:16.42 | Primer | my rotation is: send FG in, demonic empowerment, corruption, CoA, immolate, life tap (4 set bonus), incinerate x 3 |
| 23:16.45 | omega_ | jnwhiteh: but it would be an awsome addon :p |
| 23:16.56 | Primer | refresh everything as it times out |
| 23:17.02 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 23:17.02 | Primer | incin in between |
| 23:17.14 | Primer | life tap every so often to get 4 set proc |
| 23:17.21 | Grum | and you do an easy 5.5k dps with it right? :p |
| 23:17.24 | Primer | topped 6k DPS on Thadius |
| 23:17.37 | Grum | thadius is a buffed fight |
| 23:17.46 | Primer | err, well, on Patchwerk it was more like 4.5k |
| 23:17.47 | Grum | and your pet doesnt get the buff |
| 23:17.53 | Grum | 10 or 25? |
| 23:17.55 | Primer | 25 |
| 23:18.00 | Grum | strange |
| 23:18.02 | Primer | well |
| 23:18.08 | Primer | I think it's my rotation, really |
| 23:18.09 | Grum | i do that as spriest on patchwerk |
| 23:18.22 | Primer | I think I'm too concerned with refreshing dots |
| 23:18.23 | Grum | top are the mages there |
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| 23:18.29 | Primer | and not just spamming incinerate |
| 23:18.34 | Grum | easy 6k dps ... stupid 2 button class ;) |
| 23:18.47 | Grum | mmm bedtime; nn ^^ |
| 23:19.20 | Primer | I've been checking out people's WWS pages, and see top DPS doing 6k DPS on 2 minute Patchwerk |
| 23:19.35 | Primer | and their gear isn't all that much better than mine |
| 23:19.55 | Primer | which leads me to believe I'm lacking in skill :/ |
| 23:20.21 | Pneumatus | our afflock did like 3.6k dps on patch last week :o |
| 23:20.29 | Primer | you mean 6.3? |
| 23:20.37 | Pneumatus | no :< |
| 23:20.39 | Primer | heh |
| 23:20.47 | Repo | 10reagenthelper2: 03Davie3 * r5 / (101 files in 20 directories): |
| 23:20.49 | Pneumatus | http://vision.u64.org/sws-090121.1/sws-patchwerk-1232569668/index.html |
| 23:20.50 | Repo | Changed "local ReagentHelper2 = ReagentHelper2;" to "ReagentHelper2 = ReagentHelper2;" in each file in the DB. |
| 23:20.56 | Repo | Added Localization files for future use. |
| 23:20.59 | Repo | LibTipHooker-1.1 added to embeds.xml (which might be used to hook tooltips). |
| 23:21.13 | Arrowmaster | wtf? |
| 23:21.23 | Arrowmaster | wtf was that change? |
| 23:22.35 | Arrowmaster | somebody move reagenthelper2 to curseforge |
| 23:22.37 | Pneumatus | 101 files :o |
| 23:22.41 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 23:22.44 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r37 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: fix 3 typos |
| 23:22.47 | Pneumatus | no externals? |
| 23:23.30 | Arrowmaster | wtf this addon has a huge directory structure |
| 23:23.49 | Pneumatus | ex-cosmos :o |
| 23:24.06 | Arrowmaster | omg |
| 23:24.07 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 23:24.13 | Arrowmaster | fucking 6 line files |
| 23:24.20 | Arrowmaster | not even that |
| 23:24.29 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.51 | Arrowmaster | its 5 fucking lines without the comment and the line that now does nothing |
| 23:25.02 | Arrowmaster | and theres a localized version of each |
| 23:25.06 | ckknight | ...why would they do ReagentHelper2 = ReagentHelper2? |
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| 23:25.19 | ckknight | kids these days. |
| 23:25.34 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: move it to curseforge or i deny it in the queue |
| 23:25.57 | Arrowmaster | that kinda crap should never be on wowace |
| 23:26.10 | ckknight | and done |
| 23:26.12 | Arrowmaster | good |
| 23:26.24 | thul | bah, it seems like my wow-career is over. |
| 23:26.37 | Pneumatus | why on earth are they localising reagent names rather than using itemids |
| 23:26.42 | Pneumatus | hmm |
| 23:26.47 | Pneumatus | facedesk |
| 23:26.48 | Arrowmaster | because its a copy paste from cosmos |
| 23:26.55 | Arrowmaster | and the person doesnt know anything |
| 23:26.57 | Dashkal | thul: ? |
| 23:27.21 | thul | well, i can't get 3.0.8 working on my mac |
| 23:27.23 | Arrowmaster | they dont realize theres a reason you need to rewrite stuff rather than just keep it working...... |
| 23:27.24 | thul | it kernel panics it. |
| 23:27.33 | Arrowmaster | or hell just let it fucking die |
| 23:27.57 | Dashkal | uh, that's not right |
| 23:28.04 | Pneumatus | there's probably a 100-line fubar plugin that does what it does |
| 23:28.21 | ckknight | thul: that sucks |
| 23:29.14 | thul | yeah :/ i have even tried removing and reinstalling wow now, and all the other blue-post tricks :-( i cba to play in wine or to dualboot windows. |
| 23:29.17 | thul | annoying |
| 23:29.54 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r51 HSK.lua: Capitalization of alts bug fixed |
| 23:30.25 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: they made it global |
| 23:30.26 | Dashkal | Gonna make the assumption that you wern't terriby attached to your characters before 3.0.8 then? |
| 23:30.45 | Arrowmaster | Bruners: i know that |
| 23:31.31 | Arrowmaster | and i know Davie3 doesnt know a damn thing about lua either, because anybody that did wouldnt do "ReagentHelper2 = ReagentHelper2;" |
| 23:32.53 | Bruners | baw, i want to look at ReagentHelper2 :( |
| 23:34.10 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: what is it doing really? |
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| 23:34.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont know i didnt look that closely, its 100 fucking files |
| 23:35.56 | Bruners | pitbull got 116 without libs :P |
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| 23:39.09 | Bruners | Kaelten|away: my vista doesnt like the new tooltips in CC |
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| 23:48.34 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r14 / (4 files in 2 directories): Added tag v2.0-beta2 for changeset ff59da8bb6e0 |
| 23:48.37 | Repo | - "dungeons" to "instances" for consistency |
| 23:48.40 | Repo | - silly .toc typo with LibQTip-1.0 |
| 23:48.43 | Repo | - replaced all references to "dungeons" to "instances" (consistency) |
| 23:48.58 | Repo | 10prat-3-0: 03sylvanaar * r211 / (15 files in 15 directories): Update the bugtrack regex to be less retarded. (Fix #85) |
| 23:51.23 | taleden | is there a way for an addon that's currently loading to determine which other addons have already loaded (i.e. executed their base lua files)? |
| 23:51.50 | taleden | I've been trying GetNumAddOns() and GetAddOnInfo() but they appear to report everything installed, even if it hasn't actually run yet |
| 23:52.10 | Arrowmaster | IsAddOnLoaded() |
| 23:52.34 | Arrowmaster | except it has two returns and is currently broken, or atleast was before todays patch |
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| 23:53.38 | Arrowmaster | first return is if the toc has been read, so if that addons has your addon listed as an dep but loads first wow will read its toc first but then load your addon before the other addons files are procesed but the return will say its been loaded |
| 23:54.07 | Arrowmaster | the 2nd return is if ADDON_LOADED has fired yet for that addon, which is the more useful one, but that return is broken and doesnt get reset between reloadui's |
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