| 00:00.33 | Shefki | VonhintenHOME`: The game estimates health regen for yourself and your pet. However, the health updates aren't any faster for any other units. Nor does the game account for combat events. |
| 00:01.18 | VonhintenHOME` | so, essentially, the combat log reading is still useful and I would see a difference |
| 00:01.34 | Greltok | I guess that's a good solution. Currently, I accept table, string or function. |
| 00:01.42 | Greltok | So I could also accept table, function. |
| 00:01.46 | Greltok | Good plan. |
| 00:02.01 | Greltok | It does mean a type check at invocation time, but more flexible. |
| 00:02.02 | taleden | wouldn't you want to do it in the other order? :) |
| 00:02.11 | taleden | in that scheme, table is optional, but func is not |
| 00:02.17 | taleden | not necessarily |
| 00:02.31 | taleden | if you store the callbacks separately depending if you were given a table/handler/whatever |
| 00:02.35 | Shefki | taleden: It just makes more sense with the table first. |
| 00:02.35 | Greltok | True. |
| 00:02.51 | taleden | then for the callbacks with no handler (which must be func pointers), it can just call them without checking, because they were checked at registration |
| 00:03.01 | Greltok | Actually, I take 2 callback parameters, and handle them differently depending upon type. |
| 00:03.12 | taleden | for the callbacks with handlers i guess you could store them separately too for func pointers and strings, but the type check isn't that bad |
| 00:03.23 | Shefki | Just check when registering and store the function. |
| 00:03.25 | Greltok | So they second parameter is unused if the first is a talb.e |
| 00:03.36 | taleden | shefki: i dunno, if I call a function which has an optional argument, i expect that optional argument to be after the required ones |
| 00:03.59 | Shefki | taleden: I've seen it set up like the above time and time again. |
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| 00:05.24 | Shefki | function register(function, ...) local args; if type("function") == "table" then function = table[select(1,...)]; args = select(2, ...) else args = select(1, ...) end |
| 00:05.35 | Shefki | bahh. |
| 00:05.42 | Shefki | type(function) not type("function") |
| 00:06.20 | taleden | yeah, I know it's convention in wow-lua-world to have those screwy flexible arguments that you can provide in weird orders |
| 00:06.25 | taleden | but coming from a more static language background I hate that |
| 00:06.53 | Shefki | taleden: A lot of languages allow that with prototyping. |
| 00:07.04 | taleden | doesn't mean I like it any better :) |
| 00:07.39 | taleden | it irks me when the function signature is effectively "func(arg1, arg2or3, arg3or4, arg4ornothing)" |
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| 00:09.45 | Shefki | Now that I think about it doing it the other way wouldn't work. |
| 00:10.07 | Shefki | Typically you can do register("method", ...) as well. |
| 00:10.27 | Shefki | Where "method" is the method in the object itself. |
| 00:10.36 | taleden | depends on the context |
| 00:10.41 | Greltok | taleden: Why didn't you use CallbackHandler-1.0? |
| 00:11.02 | Shefki | Well a lot of times you're doing Myaddon:Register("method", ...) |
| 00:11.09 | taleden | but not in my case :) |
| 00:11.12 | Shefki | Which if you did Register("method", table, ...) |
| 00:11.20 | Shefki | That would be ambiguous. |
| 00:11.39 | Shefki | Because then you'd have to disallow the first variaible argument from being a table. |
| 00:11.40 | taleden | greltok: because in my case, a single game event might trigger changes in multiple unitids, and each of those unitids might have multiple listeners, but any single listener should only be called once per game event |
| 00:12.00 | taleden | CBH didn't seem to have a way to group callbacks that way, i'd only be able to "fire" each unitid change, and if a single callback was registered for multiple, it might get called 40 times for one game event |
| 00:12.02 | taleden | I didn't want that |
| 00:12.12 | Greltok | Gotcha. |
| 00:12.44 | taleden | shefki: that format makes more sense if your "register" function is going to be slapped onto other people's addon tables, and then it makes sense for it to use "self" as the handler or whatever |
| 00:12.57 | taleden | in my case the register function doesnt' get farmed out, it stays put on the library's own table |
| 00:13.13 | taleden | so you give it the function to call, and if you want, the handler to call it with (which would be your addon's table or whatever) |
| 00:13.22 | Shefki | taleden: You're specifically disallowing mixin? |
| 00:13.56 | taleden | well, no, but if you mix in you still have to call it that way |
| 00:14.06 | taleden | because the register function works with the library's local tables in closure |
| 00:14.10 | taleden | it doesn't use "self" for that |
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| 00:24.22 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r72 Core.lua: |
| 00:24.25 | Repo | prevent a nil table index and stop limiting tooltips to guilded toons |
| 00:25.23 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia 04v1.1.1 beta * r73 : Tagging as v1.1.1 beta |
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| 00:27.52 | taleden | is it forbidden to add things to a table in the middle of a "for x in pairs()" loop? or forbidden to nil things out from it? |
| 00:28.47 | Greltok | No. |
| 00:28.58 | Arrowmaster | read up about next() |
| 00:29.08 | Greltok | But you may or may not see the newly added item in your loop. |
| 00:29.43 | taleden | i thought i remembered something from the lua manual about behavior being undefined in one of those two cases |
| 00:29.44 | taleden | but can't remember which |
| 00:29.48 | Arrowmaster | 'The behavior of next is undefined if, during the traversal, you assign any value to a non-existent field in the table. You may however modify existing fields. In particular, you may clear existing fields. ' |
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| 00:30.02 | taleden | thanks arrow, that's what i was vaguely recalling |
| 00:30.08 | Arrowmaster | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-next |
| 00:30.14 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r128 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 00:30.17 | Repo | - fix issue when detecting if dropdown is shown (caused by patch 3.0.8) |
| 00:30.20 | Repo | - new version notification shown in tooltip instead of chat |
| 00:30.35 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: On your TrainWhistle addon, why not use the spellname you're passed from the CLEU rather than hard coding Toy Train Set. So it makes more sense on other locales. I realize the "used the" whatever won't be translated but. *shrug* |
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| 00:31.18 | Arrowmaster | that was kinda why i hard coded it |
| 00:31.27 | Arrowmaster | since the rest of the message is in english |
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| 00:33.01 | Shefki | Hmm, ok. |
| 00:33.20 | Shefki | Good candidate for the translation app though. |
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| 00:37.22 | ckknight | taleden: don't add things, you may nil out or replace existing keys. |
| 00:40.29 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Rabbit * r26 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: |
| 00:40.32 | Repo | Add a reference to the local GetItemInfo cache function to the library, as needed by RatingBuster. |
| 00:40.33 | vhaarr | Whitetooth: ^ |
| 00:41.53 | Greltok | Is there any way to determine which addons curse is packaging a library with? |
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| 00:46.34 | Parnic | HMM |
| 00:46.41 | Parnic | er, caps. wondering if i have a stale connection here |
| 00:46.43 | Parnic | anyone around? |
| 00:46.55 | taleden | pong |
| 00:47.01 | Parnic | alrighty then :) |
| 00:47.04 | taleden | :) |
| 00:47.28 | Parnic | ckknight, kaelten or one of the other admins around? |
| 00:47.37 | ckknight | I have never left you, child |
| 00:47.40 | Parnic | haha |
| 00:47.46 | Parnic | i got an email about my project being marked inactive, but the link takes me to a 403 forbidden page |
| 00:47.56 | Parnic | and i've definitely submitted new code to my addon as recently as a few days ago |
| 00:48.00 | ckknight | link |
| 00:48.13 | Parnic | "We're sorry, your project, IceHUD (http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14188/), has been marked as inactive on WowAce." |
| 00:48.33 | Parnic | icehud's actual page is: http://www.wowace.com/projects/ice-hud/ |
| 00:48.35 | ckknight | you merged it with the other one, right? |
| 00:48.36 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:48.38 | ckknight | you merged em |
| 00:48.40 | ckknight | that's the deleted one |
| 00:48.46 | Parnic | ok :) |
| 00:48.50 | ckknight | you should've gotten another email about that |
| 00:48.52 | ckknight | Status Changes |
| 00:48.53 | Parnic | i think arrowmaster or someone merged em cause i had a curseforge email |
| 00:48.54 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 00:49.03 | Parnic | but i won't worry about it then :) |
| 00:49.07 | ckknight | yea, it's all good |
| 00:49.11 | ckknight | there's an announcement about it |
| 00:49.13 | Parnic | cool, thanks. |
| 00:49.22 | Parnic | so there is |
| 00:50.06 | taleden | ckk, as long as you're already interrupted: is it possible to change the name of an existing project and forum thread? or should I just make a new one and clear out the old one? |
| 00:50.20 | ckknight | you can change it |
| 00:50.41 | taleden | and that'll update the project url and svn and everything? |
| 00:51.15 | Arrowmaster | the url would be changing the slug |
| 00:51.22 | Arrowmaster | what do you want changed? |
| 00:51.52 | taleden | I'll be renaming AuraHUD soon, not ready to yet tho, was just asking if I should plan on that or on just creating a new project under the new name |
| 00:52.09 | Arrowmaster | we can change the url for it if you want |
| 00:52.14 | taleden | ok |
| 00:52.31 | TradeMark | is a first time #wowace visitor |
| 00:53.54 | TradeMark | how friendly are you folks to noobish first-time addon programmers asking stupid questions :D |
| 00:54.24 | TradeMark | I'm a software engineer by trade, but new to wow addons |
| 00:54.59 | taleden | generally friendlyish I think |
| 00:55.14 | taleden | most of the folks in this channel are in other windows coding or afk though, so sometimes nobody answers |
| 00:55.17 | taleden | but no harm asking |
| 00:55.43 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r37 / (4 files in 1 directory): fix bug with quest id not refreshed when questlog change |
| 00:55.46 | Repo | fix bug with questracker 11 & 12 (please check) |
| 00:55.49 | Repo | fix bug in quest and quest objective status for tracker and tooltip |
| 00:55.52 | Repo | add toggle in option for announcement of quest objective status when quest is complete (ticket 10) |
| 00:56.17 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r129 / (10 files in 2 directories): - localise new version string and remove old ones |
| 00:56.20 | Repo | - update esES |
| 00:57.07 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r99 todo.txt: InventoryOnPar: - |
| 00:57.10 | Repo | updated todo.txt |
| 00:57.24 | TradeMark | alright - I want to create basically a polling addon which watches mob health and estimates "time till death" - but I understand that creating say a 1 second interrupt to recalculate information is not possible using the API, and that I instead have to callback on the combat log, for example? |
| 00:57.38 | TradeMark | just wondering if there's a better way - getting a callback every time a mob's health drops seems highly inefficient. |
| 00:59.49 | taleden | the built-in api doesn't have periodic callbacks, no, but you can simulate that with a frame's OnUpdate script handler, which runs every rendering frame and tells you how long its been since the last frame |
| 01:00.03 | taleden | so you can add those up til enough time has passed and then do your work and reset your timer |
| 01:00.17 | taleden | but there are libraries that'll handle that kind of thing for you a little more neatly, AceTimer-3.0 for example |
| 01:00.20 | Arrowmaster | if you are doing this on a specific unit such as target you can just use the UNIT_HEALTH event |
| 01:00.24 | TradeMark | ahh ok so frame by frame, that's not too bad - is it possible to get timestamps from the API? |
| 01:00.30 | TradeMark | yes, target |
| 01:00.44 | taleden | for that, yeah, UNIT_HEALTH is probably better |
| 01:01.01 | TradeMark | that's going to get called many multiple times per second though? |
| 01:01.11 | taleden | in a raid, potentially |
| 01:01.18 | Arrowmaster | yeah, the game throttles it to 0.3 seconds |
| 01:01.35 | taleden | how much work do you need to do when health changes? |
| 01:02.05 | taleden | if it's just getting the current health and doing a couple math calculations, it's probably not a big deal to do it every 0.3s on the UNIT_HEALTH |
| 01:02.21 | taleden | if you need to do more complicated things, you can use AceBucket to get a callback less often than that |
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| 01:06.01 | TradeMark | ahh ok wasn't aware about the throttling |
| 01:06.05 | TradeMark | that sounds perfect, thanks :) |
| 01:06.28 | TradeMark | shall have a look into the Ace options also |
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| 01:10.40 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles * r100 InventoryOnPar.lua: InventoryOnPar: - |
| 01:10.43 | Repo | Commiting as v12.06 |
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| 01:35.26 | Tinyboom | you how long its been since the last frame |
| 01:35.26 | Tinyboom | ( 02:00:00 ) ( taleden ) so you can add those up til enough time has passed and then do your work and reset your timer |
| 01:35.41 | Tinyboom | huh.... |
| 01:35.44 | Tinyboom | whoops |
| 01:36.02 | Tinyboom | that was weird.... |
| 01:36.44 | Tinyboom | anyone that can fix ratingbuster from going tits up? http://paste.wowace.com/224/ |
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| 01:49.36 | Repo | 10nauticus: 03Drool * r130 NautCore.lua: - remove mini-map overlay (again) |
| 01:49.39 | Repo | - (will break Minimap Button Frame until author adds exception - see ticket 13) |
| 01:49.43 | Repo | - mini-map button now shown by default |
| 01:59.11 | Ackis | i like penis |
| 01:59.14 | Ackis | om nom nom nom |
| 02:00.37 | ckknight | grats? |
| 02:02.39 | Kolie | Hjalte, ping? |
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| 02:37.31 | Nickenyfiken | lalala |
| 02:38.43 | Kolie | Curse client is pros. ;) |
| 02:39.26 | Kolie | <== not biased. |
| 02:42.00 | Zhinjio | Kolie: 2.1.1.8 died a horrible death on my machine and hasn't worked since |
| 02:42.20 | Zhinjio | it crashed twice |
| 02:42.34 | Kolie | try 2.1.1.9 it has free fruit loops |
| 02:42.39 | Zhinjio | is there ... ok. |
| 02:42.45 | Kolie | warning: actual fruit loops may not appear. |
| 02:42.56 | Zhinjio | updating |
| 02:43.20 | Kolie | Anythi ng special happen when it kaputed? |
| 02:43.42 | quiescens | fruit loops~! |
| 02:43.52 | Kolie | oh no the jig is up |
| 02:44.13 | Zhinjio | no, just the wiondows "your program fucked up" window |
| 02:44.28 | Kolie | i like that one, its very modern and pretty. |
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| 02:45.00 | Kolie | 2.1.1.9 not doing that? |
| 02:45.13 | Zhinjio | nope, looks ok so far. |
| 02:45.17 | Kolie | yay! |
| 02:45.24 | Kolie | Its the extra fruit loops. |
| 02:45.40 | Kolie | I'm going home, I read pms though when im not home again |
| 02:49.11 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r43 / (7 files in 1 directory): Check for sufficient funds when bidding/buying. |
| 02:49.14 | Repo | Move tooltip to the right on buy tab. |
| 02:49.17 | Repo | Add "+" to items with enchants/gems on buy tab. |
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| 03:06.21 | Repo | 10ahsearch: 03kunda 04r64-release * r65 : Tagging as r64-release |
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| 03:18.40 | RaydenUni | are druid cats liking might or kings these days? |
| 03:24.14 | Aens|Superiority | kings is still better |
| 03:24.20 | Aens|Superiority | well, fully talented kings |
| 03:24.23 | Aens|Superiority | otherwise, might |
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| 03:25.51 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 907e1d4 Modules/Aura (4 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 03:25.54 | Repo | 907e1d4: Sort auras by what we can dispel. |
| 03:25.57 | Repo | 59542c7: Fix trailing whitspace. |
| 03:30.30 | Nickenyfiken | Omg I don't know what to do. Should I use LibKeybound just for one method? |
| 03:30.34 | Nickenyfiken | ToShortKey(key) |
| 03:31.39 | vhaarr | no |
| 03:31.59 | vhaarr | you should copy it into your addon |
| 03:34.30 | Nickenyfiken | Well, it uses locales. Thats the problem. |
| 03:35.28 | Nickenyfiken | key = key:gsub('BACKSPACE', L['Backspace']) |
| 03:35.32 | Nickenyfiken | and so on |
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| 03:37.35 | Nickenyfiken | Well, maybe i just settle with gsub('ALT%-', 'A'). |
| 03:37.53 | Nickenyfiken | Ctrl and Shift too. |
| 03:40.10 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): RELEASE v1.2 |
| 03:40.13 | Repo | Fixes problems related to deletion or invalidation of wow's cache. If we find that they aren't returning the info needed, we'll try again later. |
| 03:43.16 | Repo | 10hazloot: 03MightyHaz * r54 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:43.16 | Repo | Fixed loot order bug. Added (lame) Broker object for 'present' list |
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| 03:55.26 | Repo | 10pokedex: 03stencil 04Release v1.2 * r21 : Tagging as Release v1.2 |
| 03:56.37 | Asus | any of u guys like experts at macro's or moderate at them |
| 03:57.04 | Asus | ./castsequence reset=10 Serpent Sting, null |
| 03:57.12 | Asus | this works but dont |
| 03:57.16 | Asus | anyone available |
| 03:58.05 | quiescens | reset=10 means 10 seconds since you last pressed the button |
| 03:58.12 | Asus | yes |
| 03:58.18 | Asus | what happens is |
| 03:58.24 | Asus | the button gets greyed out |
| 03:58.28 | Asus | till 10 secs is up |
| 03:58.35 | Asus | but only when i dont spam that button |
| 03:58.43 | Asus | if i mash it like its no tomorrow |
| 03:58.46 | Asus | it wont recast |
| 03:58.54 | quiescens | of course |
| 03:58.55 | Asus | but will if i wait for it to be ready |
| 03:59.04 | Asus | even if i mash it for 20 secs |
| 03:59.05 | quiescens | 10 seconds since you last pressed the button |
| 03:59.09 | Asus | it wont recast |
| 03:59.17 | quiescens | not 10 seconds since the last successful cast |
| 03:59.31 | Asus | umm |
| 03:59.49 | Asus | so its 10 secs sincei successfuly press the button |
| 03:59.51 | Asus | not cast? |
| 04:00.26 | Asus | okay |
| 04:00.28 | Asus | like u said |
| 04:00.35 | Asus | blizz are smart lawl |
| 04:00.39 | quiescens | each time you press the button it waits another 10 seconds |
| 04:00.51 | Asus | but my problem is |
| 04:00.55 | Asus | if i press that button |
| 04:00.59 | quiescens | even if you didn't actually cast anything |
| 04:00.59 | Asus | it goes grey which is fine |
| 04:01.03 | Asus | lets me know its not ready |
| 04:01.07 | Asus | hold on |
| 04:01.17 | Asus | and then it goes ready |
| 04:01.25 | Asus | and im able to press again |
| 04:01.36 | Asus | but if i mash it |
| 04:01.42 | Asus | it wont become ready to press |
| 04:01.46 | Asus | does that make sense? |
| 04:01.50 | quiescens | I know |
| 04:01.57 | quiescens | because each time you press it, it becomes 10 seconds again |
| 04:02.02 | quiescens | even if it didn't actually cast |
| 04:02.11 | Asus | even if its grey |
| 04:02.13 | Asus | wow |
| 04:02.21 | Asus | thats a stupid thing |
| 04:02.28 | Asus | blizz hax way to stop imba macro's |
| 04:02.33 | Hirsute | Not really, you're just using it wrong. |
| 04:02.37 | Asus | oh.. |
| 04:02.44 | Asus | well |
| 04:02.47 | Asus | all im trying to do |
| 04:02.52 | Asus | is mash a button |
| 04:02.53 | Hirsute | Reset is meant to reset your macro if it isn't used in x amount of time. |
| 04:02.57 | Asus | that only casts every 2 seconds |
| 04:03.01 | Asus | never sooner |
| 04:03.19 | Asus | i mean 10 secs |
| 04:03.20 | Asus | sorry. |
| 04:03.43 | Hirsute | I'd say your best bet is to learn to not push your button more than every 10 seconds, rather than trying to offload the thinking into your macro |
| 04:04.27 | Asus | ya lol |
| 04:04.35 | Asus | thats easy said then done |
| 04:04.45 | Asus | when ur planing to do stuff while ur at it |
| 04:04.46 | Asus | but thx |
| 04:04.51 | Asus | obviously i cant do what i want? |
| 04:05.07 | Asus | well |
| 04:05.16 | Asus | thats exactly what im trying to doi Hirsute |
| 04:05.23 | Asus | not trying i want to |
| 04:05.26 | Asus | so i can do other things |
| 04:05.30 | Asus | nvm though |
| 04:05.35 | Asus | seems like it cant be done |
| 04:05.57 | Hirsute | Yeah, Blizz generally hasn't gone out of the way to make macros able to do the thinking for people. |
| 04:06.11 | Asus | yea |
| 04:06.20 | Asus | creates ez mode and less skill |
| 04:06.25 | Asus | automatic etc |
| 04:06.28 | Asus | i understand |
| 04:06.51 | Asus | automation blah blah = bots |
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| 04:08.59 | fewyn | anyone know if it's possible to write bash script that will ssh into another box and run commands if i have keys setup? |
| 04:09.19 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:09.40 | fewyn | so everything after the ssh would be entered into the second boxes ssh window? |
| 04:14.09 | Repo | 10seraphimraidtracker: 03Barret7sc * r12 Core.lua: Fixed a bug when sending sync data. |
| 04:16.06 | Arrowmaster | dont think so |
| 04:16.18 | Arrowmaster | but when you run ssh you can tell it what to execute on the remote machine |
| 04:16.55 | Arrowmaster | actually it might just work that way, test it |
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| 04:18.54 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, i concluded yesterday that VARIABLES_LOADED can fire after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD since patch 3.0.1 due to server-side syncing |
| 04:19.14 | Arrowmaster | heh |
| 04:19.17 | Arrowmaster | awesome |
| 04:19.21 | Xinhuan | it happens on a brand new character, or when you delete all your local settings |
| 04:19.33 | Arrowmaster | but who uses VARIABLES_LOADED now anyway |
| 04:19.42 | Xinhuan | it is useful |
| 04:19.51 | Xinhuan | because, you can use it to override layout-cache.txt |
| 04:19.58 | Xinhuan | which is just applied before V_L |
| 04:20.14 | Xinhuan | also, V_L only fires after all non-lod addons have loaded, so you can also use it to check for other optional dependencies |
| 04:22.03 | Xinhuan | before 3.0.1, the load order was gauranteed though |
| 04:22.15 | Xinhuan | so some addons take advantage of it |
| 04:25.00 | Anaral | And most how-to guides still tell you to do V_L instead of A_L or whathaveyou. |
| 04:25.46 | Arrowmaster | most how-to guides were written for wow 1.x |
| 04:26.09 | Xinhuan | well, i'm informing people of this change now |
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| 04:26.40 | fewyn | well i'll try it now Arrowmaster |
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| 04:26.44 | fewyn | crosses fingers |
| 04:27.01 | Anaral | Arrowmaster: I know this, but since none of them are updated, people still use V_L |
| 04:27.08 | Anaral | And with that, I go poof |
| 04:28.17 | Repo | 10questitembar: 03Nickenyfiken * r40 Core.lua: Short style key bind text for ctrl, alt and shift. |
| 04:29.45 | fewyn | booo |
| 04:29.48 | fewyn | it doesn't work Arrowmaster |
| 04:30.40 | Arrowmaster | are you always going to run the same commands? |
| 04:33.32 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r160 / (4 files in 1 directory): Refine horizontal speed code. |
| 04:33.35 | Repo | Fix bug with OnUpdate elapsed timer. |
| 04:33.38 | Repo | Change the scale on the waypoint distances to make them bigger by default. |
| 04:38.49 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r161 FlightHUD.toc: Remove bogus UTF8 file magic crap. Get a real editor! |
| 04:42.53 | Antiarc | http://code.google.com/p/blackgold/issues/detail?id=3 |
| 04:54.55 | Xinhuan | Ackis |
| 04:55.35 | Xinhuan | why does you forum signature have a double sig |
| 04:58.27 | harl | lol |
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| 05:00.07 | pompy | Xinhuan: I told him that earlier, he's like 'I have no clue' |
| 05:00.10 | pompy | lol |
| 05:03.22 | Xinhuan | well lets see |
| 05:03.25 | Xinhuan | i checked his sig |
| 05:03.27 | Xinhuan | he has |
| 05:03.29 | Xinhuan | [url=http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azgalor&n=Ackis][img]http://www.dkpsigs.com/sigs/Azgalor/229890.jpg[/img][/url] |
| 05:03.32 | Xinhuan | listed twice |
| 05:04.41 | Xinhuan | well i don't have the power to modify it, only view it ;p |
| 05:11.21 | ckknight | now that we have a black president, who else is hoping for a Jewish guy next time? |
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| 05:19.03 | Civrock | Azn IMO. |
| 05:19.43 | Xinhuan | flying over to US to be the next president |
| 05:19.56 | Fisker- | likes Xinhuan |
| 05:20.21 | quiescens | vote [1] xinhuan? |
| 05:20.38 | Fisker- | dey see me trollin |
| 05:20.40 | Fisker- | dey hatin' |
| 05:29.06 | Xinhuan | http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iar-o5TzyF2Nao7RUT9J9yvjtOrAD960DG6G0 |
| 05:29.12 | Xinhuan | Google sets up online broadband testing lab |
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| 05:40.10 | Fisker- | is there a kinda shitlist addons which also uses guids? |
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| 05:41.05 | Xinhuan | why would you want such an addon |
| 05:42.46 | Fisker- | because people are retards |
| 05:43.58 | Torhal | Goddamn ISP. Haven't had net for two days due to incliment weather. Lights on the cable modem came up about 6 hours ago, still no internet... |
| 05:44.18 | Torhal | I finally went into the router and saw that the tards were telling my router that the subnet mask was 255.255.240.0 |
| 05:45.07 | Arrowmaster | thats normal |
| 05:45.24 | Torhal | Then why did it suddenly work when I hard-wired it to 255.255.255.0? |
| 05:46.20 | Arrowmaster | no clue but cable modem used to use that subnet mask |
| 05:46.25 | Arrowmaster | my cable modem |
| 05:46.34 | Arrowmaster | seems its 255.255.255.0 now |
| 05:46.59 | Torhal | Then I'm guessing they replaced some hardware and/or software and didn't unset the defaults. |
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| 05:53.43 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r106 BankItems.lua: Fix rare selfPlayer (nil value) error. |
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| 06:02.49 | Repo | 10fu-bar_raid-save-fu: 03jokeyrhyme * r16 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added tag v2.0 for changeset 9527265d987d |
| 06:02.52 | Repo | - added method for seeing instance IDs and time-left |
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| 06:05.00 | NeoTron | it's funny how certain events prompts you to make a new addon |
| 06:10.51 | ckknight | actually, I'd be perfectly fine with an Asian president |
| 06:11.01 | ckknight | actually, I don't think race should play a big role at all in the presidency |
| 06:11.13 | ckknight | imo, I want an openly Agnostic and/or Atheist president |
| 06:11.19 | ckknight | that won't happen for a long time, though |
| 06:12.52 | syeren | ckknight, did you see my questions in PM :p? |
| 06:13.06 | ckknight | oh, no way to change strata yet |
| 06:13.10 | ckknight | I believe there's a ticket for it, though |
| 06:13.15 | syeren | Cool cool :> |
| 06:13.24 | syeren | Any information or ideas on the 'blank bar'? |
| 06:13.32 | syeren | And why it can't go under portraits :p? |
| 06:14.14 | ckknight | what about it? |
| 06:14.17 | syeren | It won't align under my frame correctly :p |
| 06:14.18 | ckknight | you can make 0 or more blank bars |
| 06:14.22 | syeren | PPHHHHH |
| 06:14.27 | syeren | PPMMMMM |
| 06:14.31 | ckknight | the unit farme is separated into 3 segments |
| 06:14.32 | syeren | PPBBBBBB |
| 06:14.33 | ckknight | left, center, right |
| 06:15.07 | syeren | Well I just gave a rough example of how it is displaying at the moment, when I would ideally just want the blank bar under the portrait, but it won't seem to align there. |
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| 06:21.11 | Fisker- | PPPPPPPPPPP |
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| 06:35.46 | Fisker- | i soloed magister's terrace and all i got was this crap :( |
| 06:38.52 | theoddone33 | we just tried to bug malygos for the achievement |
| 06:38.57 | theoddone33 | you have to fail one attempt to set it up |
| 06:39.12 | theoddone33 | but on the attempt we did that we had sparks perfectly and had 2 minutes going into phase 3 |
| 06:39.16 | theoddone33 | we should have just done it |
| 06:40.18 | Fisker- | what bug is that? |
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| 06:40.32 | theoddone33 | you can set it up so you have a few people on drakes for phase 1 |
| 06:40.40 | Fisker- | ah |
| 06:41.01 | Fisker- | no go here anyways |
| 06:41.02 | theoddone33 | they do about 7k dps each if you do it right |
| 06:41.07 | Fisker- | we don't really have mages or rogues :E |
| 06:41.19 | Fisker- | they should do a lot more |
| 06:41.36 | Fisker- | unless aggro plays a factor |
| 06:41.41 | theoddone33 | we were failing on our setup attempts |
| 06:41.50 | theoddone33 | we had four in raid but only ever got 2 drakes up at once |
| 06:42.02 | theoddone33 | I decided it'd be fun to see if a drake could get sparks and pulled aggro |
| 06:42.07 | theoddone33 | doing 27k a tick |
| 06:42.12 | theoddone33 | not to mention standing in the raid |
| 06:42.48 | theoddone33 | fun fact too |
| 06:42.58 | theoddone33 | if you drake heal in phase 2, malygos... who is untargetable... aggros onto you |
| 06:44.10 | Zhinjio | evening, folks. |
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| 06:49.14 | Fisker- | THERE IS NO REASON TO LIVE Zhinjio :E |
| 06:50.12 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Fisker is just saying that because he's into necrophelia. |
| 06:50.37 | Fisker- | no |
| 06:50.39 | Fisker- | i need a pet |
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| 06:53.59 | Fisker- | why oh why must ratingbuster suck? :E |
| 06:54.15 | Fisker- | Who the hell thought it would be a nice idea to compare with gems? |
| 06:54.20 | Fisker- | and enchants |
| 06:54.20 | Fisker- | :E |
| 06:54.29 | Torhal | Fisker-: Yo can turn that off. |
| 06:54.34 | Torhal | s/Yo/You/ |
| 06:54.42 | Torhal | ckknight: feh |
| 06:54.55 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r140 / (2 files in 2 directories): -- Consumable.Food.Buff.Dodge |
| 06:54.57 | Repo | -- Wrangle 43652 Slippery Eel |
| 06:55.05 | Fisker- | shouldn't be enabled or even in to begin with Torhal |
| 06:55.23 | Torhal | It used to not be enabled by default. Hmm. |
| 06:55.44 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle * r61 Core.lua: Updated locales. |
| 06:56.10 | Fisker- | ah |
| 06:56.15 | Fisker- | you can autofill gems as well |
| 06:56.18 | Fisker- | Then it becomes useful again :D |
| 06:56.22 | Torhal | BWAH! |
| 06:58.27 | Fisker- | what about enchants then? |
| 06:58.56 | Torhal | Thought it was an option...I'm not in-game atm though |
| 06:59.59 | Fisker- | well it looks like it either ignores it or takes into consideration the enchant you already have |
| 07:00.20 | Fisker- | just ignores it |
| 07:00.24 | Fisker- | that's fine too :3 |
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| 07:03.56 | Fisker- | you're the dev or anything like that Torhal? |
| 07:04.14 | Torhal | For RatingBuster? Nah, that's Whitetooth. |
| 07:04.59 | Fisker- | :E |
| 07:05.09 | Fisker- | could be nice if it could calculate optimal gem as well |
| 07:06.55 | Fisker- | must hate blizzard more |
| 07:11.23 | Repo | 10goldenticket: 03dhedbor * r2 / (16 files in 2 directories): Golden Ticket: Manage your Ticket Frame, LDB style. |
| 07:11.25 | Fisker- | Someone should make a nice fishing addon :( |
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| 07:11.37 | NeoTron | ckknight: any chance of an approval of goldenticket? |
| 07:11.47 | ckknight | sure, lemme check it out |
| 07:12.15 | Fisker- | want golden shower |
| 07:12.31 | ckknight | I dunno, NeoTron |
| 07:12.35 | ckknight | the author seems kinda shady |
| 07:12.42 | NeoTron | heh |
| 07:12.49 | Torhal | ckknight: You can nuke this ticket - I have no idea how I managed to post a CC ticket in the packager section |
| 07:12.51 | Torhal | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-packager/tickets/12-overlapping-icon-shadows/ |
| 07:12.54 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/goldenticket/. Golden Ticket. dhedbor (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
| 07:13.01 | Fisker- | btw Kaelten |
| 07:13.05 | Fisker- | bugreport tiem |
| 07:13.07 | ckknight | Torhal: want me ot move it? |
| 07:13.09 | ckknight | to* |
| 07:13.17 | Torhal | ckknight: ALready re-posted in appropriate section |
| 07:13.31 | NeoTron | ^^^ project I made because I was tired of having that stupid ticket frame on top of my ButtonBin for weeks... |
| 07:13.42 | ckknight | k, Torhal |
| 07:13.48 | Torhal | Danke |
| 07:13.54 | Fisker- | btw ckknight |
| 07:14.12 | Fisker- | when finding addons on CC it shows the latest alpha/beta/release |
| 07:14.31 | ckknight | I don't do CC stuff |
| 07:14.31 | Fisker- | i mean like |
| 07:14.34 | Fisker- | No |
| 07:14.38 | Fisker- | But you'll tell Kaelten :3 |
| 07:14.44 | ckknight | no I won't |
| 07:15.00 | ckknight | Fisker-: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1233299683941.jpg |
| 07:15.02 | Fisker- | What if i force you? |
| 07:15.11 | ckknight | you can't force me, I have a higher power level than you |
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| 07:15.24 | Fisker- | Why is goldenticket called magicrunes now? .3 |
| 07:15.25 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 07:15.31 | Fisker- | nah ckknight |
| 07:15.33 | Fisker- | at best it's equal |
| 07:15.39 | Fisker- | but since my nobles deck level is over 0 i win |
| 07:15.40 | NeoTron | lol oops |
| 07:16.11 | Repo | 10goldenticket: 03dhedbor * r3 .pkgmeta: Fixed .pkgmeta cutnpaste error. |
| 07:16.18 | NeoTron | fix'd |
| 07:16.34 | Fisker- | oooooooooooowned |
| 07:16.50 | Torhal | ckknight: You're not done with PitBull6 yet? WTF, man? |
| 07:16.51 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:16.58 | ckknight | been busy, gah! |
| 07:17.13 | Groktar | PITBULL 6 NAO |
| 07:17.13 | ckknight | I'm trying to fend off wolverines with my bowstaff |
| 07:17.20 | Torhal | Heh |
| 07:17.21 | Fisker- | Parrot 7 |
| 07:17.23 | Fisker- | giev |
| 07:17.57 | Fisker- | btw ckknight |
| 07:18.00 | ckknight | no u |
| 07:18.04 | Fisker- | you could ask /b/ to make textures for your addon |
| 07:18.09 | Fisker- | like googol khrom |
| 07:18.12 | Fisker- | etc. |
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| 07:24.11 | ckknight | hey Fisker- |
| 07:24.15 | ckknight | your new queen: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1233299800213.jpg |
| 07:25.10 | Torhal | ckknight: When did Blizzard start making RL Ogres? |
| 07:25.20 | Repo | 10goldenticket: 03dhedbor * r4 GoldenTicket.lua: Fixed ticket status display. |
| 07:25.45 | ckknight | Torhal: lulz |
| 07:25.53 | ckknight | Torhal: I dunno, how old is your mom? |
| 07:26.22 | Torhal | ckknight: I'm pretty sure she's older than Blizzard. But then again, they do borrow heavily from everything. |
| 07:26.24 | Fisker- | btw NeoTron |
| 07:26.46 | Fisker- | why not do like a menu where you can choose "Talk to a GM, Report an issue, Open a stuck ticket and auto-unstuck"? |
| 07:26.50 | ckknight | hehe, Torhal |
| 07:27.03 | ckknight | Fisker- speaks truth |
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| 07:27.23 | Torhal | Fisker-: I think a "FIX NAO PLZ" option is most important. |
| 07:30.33 | Xinhuan | what was cnc's bar addon called hmm |
| 07:30.35 | Xinhuan | forgot the name |
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| 07:31.43 | Elkano | cnc? |
| 07:33.14 | Groktar | flexbar? |
| 07:33.18 | Xinhuan | cncfanatics |
| 07:33.18 | Groktar | http://www.curse.com/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=cncfanatics |
| 07:33.33 | Groktar | feels clever |
| 07:35.18 | Grum | <Fisker-> could be nice if it could calculate optimal gem as well <-- quite hard if you have to take metagems in account |
| 07:36.48 | Grum | theoddone33: how on earth did you get people on dragons at the start of the malyfight? O.o |
| 07:38.10 | theoddone33 | it involves rogues and mages |
| 07:38.20 | selckin | and cheating |
| 07:38.29 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 07:38.35 | NeoTron | Fisker-: yep that's a good idea |
| 07:39.07 | Repo | 10goldenticket: 03dhedbor * r5 GoldenTicket.toc: Fixed category in the .toc file |
| 07:39.13 | Grum | theoddone33: did you do it on 10/25m? :) |
| 07:39.28 | theoddone33 | it was 10, we spent a long long time in there and still didn't get the achievement |
| 07:39.33 | theoddone33 | it was not as easy as I thought it would be |
| 07:39.36 | Grum | what setup? |
| 07:39.52 | theoddone33 | we tried with 2 shamans at first and that was dumb |
| 07:39.57 | theoddone33 | resto shamans |
| 07:40.06 | Grum | 1 tank, 2 healers, 7 good dps? |
| 07:40.11 | theoddone33 | we had 2 mages, 2 rogues, and 6 people that just wanted the achievement |
| 07:40.16 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 07:40.28 | Grum | heroism and a dk? |
| 07:40.39 | theoddone33 | we learned that if we stack correctly we can get it in 6 minutes without the bug |
| 07:41.11 | Grum | what were the tactics? |
| 07:41.13 | theoddone33 | and we had 3 people pvp specced |
| 07:41.20 | theoddone33 | stand in sparks and pew pew |
| 07:42.02 | Grum | when did you use hero? |
| 07:42.15 | theoddone33 | I'm not sure we used it the good attempt |
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| 07:42.28 | theoddone33 | we typically use it after the second vortex |
| 07:42.30 | NeoTron | is there a LibStub drop down/menu library yet? |
| 07:42.42 | Grum | i think that is too late theo |
| 07:42.55 | theoddone33 | it's possible |
| 07:43.12 | Grum | we used it the second we were on the ground after the first vortex; then 5 seconds later you have the first spark; 10 seconds later the second (if a DK pulls it) |
| 07:43.14 | theoddone33 | it's nice to have it up for the free dps between phases |
| 07:43.18 | Grum | we didnt get a second vortex |
| 07:43.22 | theoddone33 | yeah |
| 07:43.24 | Xinhuan | NeoTron: no |
| 07:43.29 | Grum | and he was down to 31% at that time |
| 07:43.39 | Xinhuan | there is one that is 90% complete by Antiarc, but he isn't really interested in finishing it |
| 07:43.52 | Grum | also we never stood in the bubbles in phase2 |
| 07:44.02 | Grum | just stand on the sparkpatches |
| 07:44.10 | theoddone33 | can get one-shotted that way, though |
| 07:44.17 | Grum | not really |
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| 07:44.21 | Xinhuan | you won't get 1-shotted, but you will get 2-shotted ;p |
| 07:44.25 | Grum | 15k per hit is about the maximum |
| 07:44.31 | theoddone33 | well, those things can hit for 14k, with a 2k thing that hits pretty often |
| 07:44.35 | Grum | so yeah 2 shotted you shall be |
| 07:44.50 | Grum | there is no 2k-dmg component out there |
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| 07:44.56 | Grum | just the big hits and the breath |
| 07:45.00 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: so.. 90% complete means not usable ? |
| 07:45.06 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 07:45.07 | Grum | but you should be out of phase2 before the first breath |
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| 07:45.14 | Xinhuan | its usable but will error in obscure places |
| 07:45.22 | theoddone33 | do you not bring any melee or what? |
| 07:45.30 | Antiarc | I'm interested in finishing it |
| 07:45.30 | NeoTron | ok |
| 07:45.32 | Xinhuan | because it was written before wrath 3.0 patch |
| 07:45.34 | Antiarc | I just have negative free time |
| 07:45.41 | NeoTron | Antiarc: invent time travel |
| 07:45.41 | Xinhuan | haha negative free time |
| 07:45.44 | Antiarc | It just needs some polish |
| 07:45.51 | Grum | we had a dk/retri/hunter(pet at least ^^) |
| 07:45.56 | Torhal | Donate to the community, y0! |
| 07:45.59 | Grum | and the tank ofc |
| 07:46.00 | Torhal | Or something. |
| 07:46.30 | Grum | we ended with 2:30 left when p3 started |
| 07:47.02 | Grum | if you get the second vortex you will be at 15 seconds later |
| 07:47.15 | Grum | (at least) |
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| 07:48.11 | Grum | without a dk+hero its not really doable to get him before the second vortex though |
| 07:48.20 | Grum | but with the second vortex you also get 2 more sparks on the floor |
| 07:49.04 | Xinhuan | there are guilds on my server that did it with no DKs |
| 07:49.07 | Xinhuan | or with a DK tank |
| 07:49.11 | Xinhuan | i.e no death grips were used |
| 07:49.16 | Grum | yeah we had another group doing it without a DK |
| 07:49.29 | Grum | we just happened to have one (but only 1 heroism) |
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| 07:49.42 | Xinhuan | have you found out whats the best dps rotation in maly p3? |
| 07:49.52 | Grum | 2 CP |
| 07:49.55 | Grum | and ignore healing |
| 07:50.02 | Grum | have your healers heal |
| 07:50.04 | Xinhuan | 112 repeat? |
| 07:50.06 | Grum | and all group up ontop of eachother |
| 07:50.09 | Grum | yeah 112 |
| 07:50.20 | Xinhuan | how much does your damage tick for |
| 07:50.21 | Grum | i usually dont even bother shielding |
| 07:50.23 | Xinhuan | using 112 |
| 07:50.29 | Shot` | I thought it was 1212 then 112 repeat? |
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| 07:50.41 | Grum | Shot`: yeah ofc |
| 07:50.47 | Shot` | But I'm notmally healing anyway :) |
| 07:50.58 | Grum | how do you mean what does it tick for? |
| 07:51.03 | Grum | the ticks go up with the amount of stacks |
| 07:51.03 | Xinhuan | the ticking debuff |
| 07:51.05 | Xinhuan | on maly |
| 07:51.09 | Grum | so you get more stacks >> win |
| 07:51.16 | Xinhuan | when i used 11112, it ticks for 20k per tick |
| 07:51.33 | Xinhuan | and topped p3 dps |
| 07:51.58 | Xinhuan | which means, every 5 ticks i was doing 100k damage |
| 07:52.00 | Grum | humz i think the amount of CP doesnt increase the ticking |
| 07:52.08 | Xinhuan | i think it does |
| 07:52.16 | Grum | lets find out |
| 07:52.39 | Xinhuan | let me see |
| 07:52.40 | Grum | on 25m i usually get 20-23 stacks on h im |
| 07:52.44 | Xinhuan | Engulf in Flames, 50 Energy. 60 yd range. Instant. Launches a blast of flames, igniting your target for 1500 Fire damage every 3 sec. This effect stacks. Lasts longer per combo point: |
| 07:53.03 | Grum | Flame Spike |
| 07:53.05 | Xinhuan | 6, 10, 14, 18, 22 |
| 07:53.12 | Xinhuan | seconds |
| 07:53.14 | Xinhuan | Flame Spike 10 Energy. 60 yd range. Instant. Fires a quick jet of fire at your target, causing 943 to 1057 Fire damage. Awards 1 combo point. |
| 07:53.34 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 07:53.36 | Grum | so from what i read here it shouldnt increase with more combopoints |
| 07:53.45 | Grum | but it might be bugged |
| 07:53.57 | Xinhuan | if that's the case, wouldn't doing 12121212 be better to stack it up quickly? |
| 07:54.07 | Grum | yes but 121212 is not reliable |
| 07:54.08 | Xinhuan | then when its reached maximum, 11112 |
| 07:54.14 | Grum | you need to be reaaaly close to him to make that work |
| 07:54.19 | Grum | and be lucky with spamming your buttons |
| 07:54.33 | Grum | 1212112112112(112)x forevar |
| 07:54.49 | Grum | you can do 12,12,112 because of starting with fully energy |
| 07:54.49 | NeoTron | it's better to press more 1's than have it fall off, that's for sure |
| 07:54.59 | Grum | why would it fall off? |
| 07:55.06 | Grum | you can cast while movin |
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| 07:55.13 | Xinhuan | what can it stack to max? |
| 07:55.13 | Grum | and you are only casting dps stuff |
| 07:55.14 | Xinhuan | 10? |
| 07:55.16 | Grum | no |
| 07:55.18 | Grum | unlimited stacks |
| 07:55.26 | Grum | i've seen 29 as highest sofar |
| 07:55.39 | Grum | and that does SHITLOADS of dmg :) |
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| 07:56.11 | Xinhuan | shttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=56092 |
| 07:56.13 | NeoTron | Grum: if you need to use the shield or mismanage your energy |
| 07:56.16 | Xinhuan | see that description |
| 07:56.20 | Grum | dont use your shield? |
| 07:56.27 | NeoTron | then you die |
| 07:56.31 | Grum | use dedicated healers |
| 07:56.37 | Grum | on 25m it is impossible to die |
| 07:56.38 | Xinhuan | if that's the case, 112 will give a 10 second debuff stack right? |
| 07:56.41 | Grum | on 10m .. meh small chance |
| 07:56.44 | Grum | only if you get targetted 3x |
| 07:56.54 | Grum | yes indeed Xin |
| 07:56.56 | Xinhuan | 1 point gives 6 seconds |
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| 07:57.01 | Xinhuan | so wouldn't 12 12 12 12 be best? |
| 07:57.12 | Xinhuan | its 1.5 second gcd |
| 07:57.14 | Grum | you regen 50 energy in which time? |
| 07:57.24 | Xinhuan | hmmm good point |
| 07:57.25 | NeoTron | yeah you forget energy regen time |
| 07:57.31 | Grum | you can do it |
| 07:57.35 | Grum | but the buff applies on hitting |
| 07:57.39 | Grum | and it has a looong traveltime |
| 07:57.43 | Xinhuan | wowhead says stack to 999 |
| 07:57.50 | Grum | so if you stand *on* him you might be able to pull off 121212 |
| 07:58.03 | NeoTron | then you'll surely die |
| 07:58.07 | Grum | yes |
| 07:58.10 | Grum | as you cannot move away from the sparks |
| 07:58.24 | Xinhuan | 1 healer 9 dps in p3 |
| 07:58.29 | Grum | 2 healers |
| 07:58.38 | Xinhuan | i've found 1 healer is enough |
| 07:58.40 | NeoTron | not spark |
| 07:58.43 | NeoTron | Arcane Pulse |
| 07:58.48 | Grum | Xinhuan: without any shielding right? |
| 07:58.53 | Grum | yeah that spark-like-thingie Neo :P |
| 07:59.04 | Xinhuan | with shielding |
| 07:59.11 | Grum | 112 has no room for shielding |
| 07:59.17 | Xinhuan | maly only has 1 target |
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| 07:59.25 | Xinhuan | so 8 dps 1 shielding |
| 07:59.30 | NeoTron | it's the thing that wtfpwns you if you're within 30 yards, not the cloud of sparks |
| 07:59.40 | Grum | you cant keep stacks up if you do 112 with shielding |
| 07:59.53 | NeoTron | "Lashes out with an instant pulse of arcane energy, inflicting 28275 to 31725 Arcane damage to enemies within 30 yards." |
| 08:00.00 | Grum | oh auch hehe |
| 08:00.02 | Xinhuan | lets see, Shield uses 25 energy |
| 08:00.03 | Grum | didnt even know he has that |
| 08:00.14 | Grum | 1112 is the minimum you need |
| 08:00.25 | Grum | you have about 2 second spare with 112 |
| 08:00.36 | Grum | maybe 3-3.5 |
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| 08:00.54 | Xinhuan | you said you entered p3 with 2.30 left right? killed him with how much time to spare? |
| 08:00.56 | NeoTron | 30 yards is pretty small relatively speaking |
| 08:01.06 | Grum | 30 seconds spare |
| 08:01.13 | Groktar | but is it 30 yards from the edge of his hitbox? |
| 08:01.13 | Xinhuan | what % was he |
| 08:01.13 | Grum | but we only had to take off ~31 % |
| 08:01.17 | NeoTron | did you just kill normally, no "saving sparks" or anything? |
| 08:01.18 | Groktar | from the center of him? |
| 08:01.30 | Xinhuan | so you took 2 minutes to kill 31% yes? |
| 08:01.31 | Grum | NeoTron: we dk-pulled the second spark |
| 08:01.34 | Groktar | i try to get really far away |
| 08:01.36 | Grum | yes Xin |
| 08:01.39 | Grum | with 8 people doing dps |
| 08:01.44 | NeoTron | I don't know where the 30 yard starts |
| 08:01.45 | Grum | and people did shield and drop the stacks |
| 08:01.51 | Grum | only 4-5 people kept their stacks the whole time |
| 08:01.55 | Xinhuan | lets see, due to the nature of stacking debuffs on maly, dps increases over time right? |
| 08:02.00 | Grum | yes |
| 08:02.05 | Groktar | yeah |
| 08:02.11 | Xinhuan | so if he was at 40% rather than 31% |
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| 08:02.17 | Xinhuan | how much time do you think you would have taken |
| 08:02.18 | Grum | 5 more % wuld only take 30 secs more |
| 08:02.22 | Shot` | my guild are pretty rubbish at nuking between p1-p2 - so we enter p3 with about 3 mins, at 45% or so |
| 08:02.25 | Grum | maybe even less |
| 08:02.29 | Shot` | generally kill with 30 sec left |
| 08:02.43 | Grum | 30 seconds left on what Shot? enrage? ;) |
| 08:02.52 | Shot` | no, the cake timer |
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| 08:02.55 | Groktar | yeah, my guild is pretty melee heavy. the lowest we'll see it is 42ish |
| 08:02.56 | Shot` | yes, enrage :) |
| 08:03.02 | Grum | we're not taking about enreage |
| 08:03.09 | Grum | we're talking about the achievemet 6 minute time |
| 08:03.12 | Grum | +n |
| 08:03.21 | Shot` | oooh |
| 08:03.26 | Shot` | i should scroll up more |
| 08:03.34 | Grum | we didnt really say it in the last 10 mins hehe |
| 08:03.48 | Xinhuan | u took 120 seconds to do 31% damage, so if i average that, it is 40 seconds to do 10% |
| 08:04.07 | Xinhuan | so if malygos was at 40% rather than 31%, you would have taken say about 30 seconds more at most |
| 08:04.13 | Grum | it i will prolly be 20-25 because of the stack-buildui |
| 08:04.15 | Xinhuan | still would have been within achievement |
| 08:04.28 | Grum | yeah |
| 08:04.35 | Grum | we were just lucky to get him a bit confused on the transition |
| 08:04.43 | Grum | he started flying for vortex2 |
| 08:04.43 | Xinhuan | confused? |
| 08:04.53 | Groktar | get him to hit 50% right as he's flying up |
| 08:04.54 | Grum | but we nailed him just below 50% when he arrived |
| 08:04.57 | Groktar | yeah |
| 08:05.05 | Grum | he has to fly to the middle and *then* starts casting |
| 08:05.05 | Xinhuan | do you think it would have really mattered? |
| 08:05.13 | Grum | it gives you 2-3 sec extra orso :D |
| 08:05.23 | Xinhuan | do you think having a 2nd vortex is bad? |
| 08:05.28 | Grum | oh yes it is |
| 08:05.31 | Grum | it just adds 20seconds |
| 08:05.48 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r141 / (4 files in 4 directories): -- Drums of the Tempest, Oracle Secret Solution |
| 08:05.48 | Grum | we did a try with 2nd vortex and killed on 6:16 |
| 08:06.00 | Xinhuan | couldn't stop the dots ticking and wipe? lol |
| 08:06.06 | Grum | nah we just didn't care |
| 08:06.08 | Grum | was raid-end |
| 08:06.18 | Grum | and we came back wednes to fix him |
| 08:06.22 | Megalon | you don't have to stop the dots |
| 08:06.26 | Grum | just dismount |
| 08:06.28 | Megalon | just everyone exit the dragon and your fine |
| 08:06.33 | Xinhuan | hmm true |
| 08:06.34 | Grum | yeah still quite hard hehehe |
| 08:06.53 | Grum | and on wednesday we got him in 30 minutes |
| 08:07.03 | Grum | about 8 tries |
| 08:07.18 | Grum | erm lies; that is 6 tries exactly |
| 08:07.29 | Xinhuan | what time does the 2nd vortex cast |
| 08:07.34 | Grum | 9was ~34 mins when he died) |
| 08:07.39 | Xinhuan | from engage that is |
| 08:07.44 | Grum | hmm i think 45-50 seconds after the first one |
| 08:08.34 | Grum | second vortex is 1 minute in |
| 08:08.37 | Grum | self:Bar(L["vortex_next"], 59, 56105) |
| 08:08.40 | Megalon | self:Bar(L["vortex_next"], 59, 56105) |
| 08:08.42 | Megalon | ;D |
| 08:09.02 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 08:09.07 | Megalon | just a very bloodlust-friendly timer |
| 08:09.08 | Megalon | :o |
| 08:09.16 | Grum | not really |
| 08:09.16 | Xinhuan | lets see, so |
| 08:09.20 | Grum | bloodlust just overlaps |
| 08:09.26 | Xinhuan | first vortex is 30 seconds in right? |
| 08:09.50 | Xinhuan | so you technically have to enter p2 before 2 minutes |
| 08:10.02 | Xinhuan | and complete p2 in another 1.5 min |
| 08:10.10 | Grum | yeah |
| 08:10.17 | Grum | not sure about first vortex |
| 08:10.18 | NeoTron | what's the best p2 strat? |
| 08:10.20 | Grum | i think it is 20 seconds in |
| 08:10.27 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r10 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Added Slow tracking |
| 08:10.28 | Grum | NeoTron: we found that ignoring bubbles |
| 08:10.29 | Repo | - When combat begins, or the target is changed, the target's auras are scanned and any relevant debuff bars/timers are created/updated |
| 08:10.30 | NeoTron | ranged DPS focus on in-air mobs while melee does ground? |
| 08:10.32 | Repo | - Durations for CC effects in PvP should be handled correctly |
| 08:10.35 | Grum | and just standing in the spark-spots |
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| 08:10.50 | Grum | and all th range just nuking the scions ... really works well |
| 08:10.53 | Thrae | Alright, an author named twobits wants to help revamp TinyTip. Does anyone else want to join him? |
| 08:11.14 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v0.9 beta 5 * r11 : Tagging as v0.9 beta 5 |
| 08:11.24 | Grum | first vortex is 10 seconds in to the fight |
| 08:11.32 | NeoTron | I think we'll try this next week or so |
| 08:11.39 | Grum | before you get in it you should be able to get 10-15% of the boss |
| 08:11.40 | NeoTron | been mostly focusing on S3D so far, unsuccessfully :-/ |
| 08:11.57 | Grum | meh yeah S10+3 is frustrating |
| 08:12.26 | Grum | just need that one and the 'do not get hit by stupid meteor-thingies' at sart :) |
| 08:12.32 | NeoTron | it's a good encounter to beat (when you beat it) |
| 08:12.32 | sb|work | S10+any combination with vesperon alive is frustrating :p |
| 08:12.32 | Grum | for the 10m raid achievements |
| 08:12.53 | NeoTron | but man it feels almost like a 10 man version of m'uru |
| 08:12.54 | Grum | we did 8 solid hours of tries on 10m+3 |
| 08:13.06 | Grum | the setup you need is just horrid |
| 08:13.15 | sb|work | we failed with 10+2 this week.. too many blazes, too much twilight torment damage :/ |
| 08:13.19 | NeoTron | and I'd venture fully impossible to do in 10 man gear unless you're like some sort of god |
| 08:13.29 | Grum | yes it is impossible then |
| 08:13.49 | Groktar | people just really need to be on point |
| 08:14.01 | NeoTron | I'm sitting at around 33.5k health with the 25% reduction.. my job is like the easiest in there |
| 08:14.01 | Grum | Groktar: did you do it after 3.0.8? |
| 08:14.04 | Groktar | nope |
| 08:14.09 | sb|work | se... |
| 08:14.12 | sb|work | see :o |
| 08:14.14 | NeoTron | I didn't find that the breaths was a major problem |
| 08:14.15 | Groktar | but i know premonition did it with all melee dps |
| 08:14.17 | Grum | we nearly had it at 3.0.3 |
| 08:14.23 | NeoTron | I even survived two unmitigated ones post 3.0.8 |
| 08:14.27 | Grum | 'all melee dps' .. sigh |
| 08:14.37 | Grum | you can always force an encounter hehehe |
| 08:14.40 | NeoTron | we tried all ranged dps this week |
| 08:14.50 | Grum | then again; we always take mostly ranged dps |
| 08:14.55 | NeoTron | best was ~shadron at 40% I think |
| 08:15.01 | Grum | we had shadron down |
| 08:15.10 | Grum | and then the tank died while running to the portal ;( |
| 08:15.11 | Groktar | damn |
| 08:15.22 | Grum | so we used an stone elemental to tank inside |
| 08:15.23 | sb|work | vesperon > shadron since 3.0.8 |
| 08:15.24 | NeoTron | man shadron down and most of the hard is over |
| 08:15.26 | sb|work | thats the point :p |
| 08:15.27 | Grum | and we lost 2 more :( |
| 08:15.44 | Grum | and then you are down to 2 dps ;) |
| 08:15.44 | NeoTron | sb|work: by itself vesperon isn't that hard |
| 08:16.01 | Grum | vesperon+another drake up just oneshots the tank tanking them2 |
| 08:16.02 | sb|work | no, but twilight torment (disciple) + blazes it is :p |
| 08:16.21 | Grum | 1+2 up at the same time is not a real problem |
| 08:16.22 | NeoTron | double breath ftw |
| 08:16.29 | Grum | 2+3 just kills you with double breaths |
| 08:16.39 | Grum | and not to forget the 30k breaths the MT gets o.O |
| 08:16.49 | NeoTron | I'd be happy if they were only 30k :P |
| 08:16.56 | Groktar | ^ |
| 08:16.57 | NeoTron | I took a 45k breath |
| 08:16.58 | Grum | we had a DK specced for the job with 40k hp |
| 08:17.08 | Grum | still 30k breaks max |
| 08:17.21 | NeoTron | that was mitigated 20% but not anythin else since I was a second too late |
| 08:17.22 | sb|work | hm.. we got 42-45k |
| 08:17.23 | Grum | and even with a GS priest you will end up with having no tricks ;( |
| 08:17.28 | sb|work | with barkskin |
| 08:17.33 | NeoTron | and I have nearly 46k health buffed |
| 08:17.40 | sb|work | NeoTron: -25% :p |
| 08:17.46 | NeoTron | I am aware. 33.5k or so |
| 08:18.00 | Grum | our dk had 30k but he had a hybrid wonky spec |
| 08:18.03 | NeoTron | on a wipe I took two breaths without anything, not even bone shield |
| 08:18.07 | Grum | also he wasnt really the problem |
| 08:18.08 | NeoTron | so do I. unholy/blood |
| 08:18.11 | sb|work | so we tried shadron+vesperon in 2d, because i think its the best thing to get ready for 3d |
| 08:18.15 | Grum | doing the fight with 2 healers is :) |
| 08:18.25 | sb|work | but bah... shadron down, vesperon lands, too many blazes, too much TT damage - wipe :o |
| 08:18.36 | NeoTron | I actually had exactly 1 helath left after a breath, was healed up and ate a second one where I had like 1k left |
| 08:18.37 | Grum | that happens 1/15 times indeed sb :) |
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| 08:18.56 | Grum | you suddenly have that tank running about with 10+ blazes :D |
| 08:19.02 | sb|work | and the other 14 times is dead tank because of something bad happens? :P |
| 08:19.03 | NeoTron | we used holy priest/pally healers with the elemental shammy healing once shadron's disciple is up |
| 08:19.08 | Grum | so how do you guys do that boss? |
| 08:19.21 | NeoTron | that's one thing I don't like with the fight - it's very very random |
| 08:19.50 | sb|work | yup... |
| 08:19.50 | sb|work | we had like ~5-10 until vesperon lands once |
| 08:19.50 | NeoTron | random luck on brazes, random time on the portals, random luck on breath (both frequency, timing and amount) |
| 08:19.52 | NeoTron | with a pally helaer, breath during wave is often bad |
| 08:19.54 | sb|work | and then... 5 every spawn, that was like 20+ until vesperon |
| 08:20.21 | sb|work | we didnt change anything in tactics, it was just another day... |
| 08:20.25 | Grum | we take 3 tank; 2 healer; 5 dps: Boss->Tene->Hero after first wave->Tene down->AOE adds->Shadron *drag to other side*->Kill Shadron's disc->Vesperon->boss |
| 08:20.28 | Grum | at least that was the plan :) |
| 08:20.44 | sb|work | hm, hero for tenebron? wtf :o |
| 08:20.45 | Grum | oh vesperon->disc->boss ofc |
| 08:20.57 | Grum | we found it matters not at all where you hero |
| 08:21.03 | sb|work | i think we need more dps :( |
| 08:21.04 | Grum | but getting a second pack of drakes is fucking annoying |
| 08:21.11 | sb|work | yes |
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| 08:21.21 | NeoTron | Grum: you kill shadron's disciple? |
| 08:21.22 | Grum | so we force those by heroism on the first one |
| 08:21.26 | Grum | NeoTron: yes |
| 08:21.32 | Grum | we tried without and a dps -> healy |
| 08:21.33 | NeoTron | how long till it respawns? |
| 08:21.36 | Grum | not |
| 08:21.40 | Grum | if you kill if after shadron dies |
| 08:21.51 | NeoTron | ah I misread |
| 08:21.58 | NeoTron | who tanks the disciples ? |
| 08:22.02 | NeoTron | 3 tanks busy yes? |
| 08:22.05 | Grum | that was the scary part |
| 08:22.13 | Grum | when shadron died we had the add-tank taunt vesperon |
| 08:22.16 | NeoTron | we realized that with all magic ranged dps we didn't have a tank |
| 08:22.21 | Grum | clearing the drake-tank for portal duty |
| 08:22.25 | NeoTron | ah |
| 08:22.47 | Grum | and then just ufcking pray you dont get too many blazes while your healers are sitting there healing 2 tanks |
| 08:23.15 | sb|work | how much dps do you have on blazes? |
| 08:23.15 | Grum | we did kill the discs with a stone elemental |
| 08:23.20 | Grum | nothing |
| 08:23.23 | sb|work | oh |
| 08:23.28 | Grum | the tank kills them by itself |
| 08:23.38 | Grum | we just aoe the first bunch alongside with the drake-adds |
| 08:23.47 | Grum | after that we basicly ignore them |
| 08:23.48 | sb|work | ah ok, thats why it is not working out |
| 08:24.07 | Grum | we do have someone switching dps->healing when we have that annoying aura up |
| 08:24.14 | Grum | and the dps group is dropping low |
| 08:24.22 | Grum | used me (spriest - PoH ftw) |
| 08:24.28 | Grum | and after that an elem shammy |
| 08:24.35 | Grum | mainly because VE+VT are *SO* welcome |
| 08:26.16 | Grum | the second those drakes leave the other realm its always russian roulette whether or not a healer gets oneshotted |
| 08:26.24 | Grum | if you happen to have a wave at that time ... game over :( |
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| 08:31.27 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu 04v0.7.10 * r162 : Tagging as v0.7.10. |
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| 08:32.31 | Groktar | Situation: Someone beats you in a duel. |
| 08:32.31 | Groktar | Response: "You have no life and live in your parents basem-- I ALREADY TOOK THE TRASH OUT MOM!" |
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| 08:37.54 | sb|work | Grum: okay, i think its a setup issue then |
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| 08:41.19 | selckin | Grum: you're immune now when you exit |
| 08:43.20 | Xinhuan | i found that not to be the case, selckin |
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| 08:43.36 | selckin | it was in the patch notes anyway :( |
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| 08:43.43 | selckin | i'm always up top tanking the adds so dunno |
| 08:43.49 | Xinhuan | u still take flamewave damage |
| 08:43.52 | Xinhuan | on coming out |
| 08:43.58 | Xinhuan | especially the dot |
| 08:44.03 | selckin | one of our mages enterented the same momemnt an add was killed, and was unable to exit for the entire fight |
| 08:47.26 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 5f8def6 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 08:47.29 | Repo | 5f8def6: Use the right URL for LibBanzai-2.0 |
| 08:47.32 | Repo | 2955df3: Add Banzai module. |
| 08:48.06 | Shefki | ckknight: Around? |
| 08:50.28 | Kalroth | the woooorld, around the woorld |
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| 08:54.42 | sb|work | Grum: holy priest, 2 resto shaman, 1 enh shaman, 1 feral tank, 1 warri tank, 1 mage, 1 rogue, 2 locks :/ |
| 08:57.07 | Kalroth | Naxx10? |
| 08:57.19 | sb|work | s(2|3)d :/ |
| 08:57.29 | sb|work | we need retr. pally, i know :p |
| 08:57.31 | Kalroth | with 2 tanks only? |
| 08:57.35 | sb|work | 2d that is |
| 08:57.43 | sb|work | but failed :) |
| 08:57.51 | Kalroth | Sure, you still need someone to handle the adds :) |
| 08:57.57 | sb|work | rogue |
| 08:58.06 | Kalroth | the whelps too? |
| 08:58.12 | sb|work | nah, doing 2d with 2+3 |
| 08:58.15 | sb|work | shadron+vesperon |
| 08:58.23 | Kalroth | ah |
| 08:59.03 | Kalroth | Well that's going to pretty hard unless you are able to kill Shadron before Vesperon lands |
| 08:59.24 | sb|work | it worked for 3.0.3 |
| 08:59.32 | sb|work | but we fail in 3.0.8 because of blazes + twilight torment |
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| 09:00.20 | Kalroth | No, you got lucky in 3.0.3 that your Sarth tank knew how to remove torment :) And blazes has always been there |
| 09:00.42 | Kalroth | 10+1/2/3 has always meant to require 3 tanks |
| 09:00.45 | sb|work | well, torment on sartharion tank is no problem |
| 09:00.54 | sb|work | we can handle that + kill shadron soon enough |
| 09:01.00 | Kalroth | oh, what's the problem with torment then? |
| 09:01.01 | sb|work | main tank is fine :p |
| 09:01.09 | Kalroth | it hasn't changed for anything but the MT |
| 09:01.32 | sb|work | vesperon tank dies ;) |
| 09:01.41 | sb|work | and blaze rogue dies.. |
| 09:02.27 | Kalroth | Blaze rogue is probably taking too much damage, so healers focus more on him, which then causes other tanks to get neglected and die :p |
| 09:02.32 | sb|work | but yes, i think we need another tank |
| 09:02.41 | sb|work | pally would be fine because of kings |
| 09:02.57 | Kalroth | Also replace 1 of the resto shamans with either holy paladin or resto druid |
| 09:03.24 | Kalroth | And as many of the warlocks as possible, preferably with something melee'ish :P |
| 09:04.02 | sb|work | mhh.. |
| 09:04.19 | sb|work | 1 lock -> 1 prot pally / 1 resto shaman -> holy pally |
| 09:04.21 | sb|work | should do it :p |
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| 09:04.49 | Kalroth | That would help for sure |
| 09:10.27 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * dc87086 libs.xml: [+1 commit] Add LibBanzai-2.0 to the libs.xml file. Oops. |
| 09:17.56 | Groktar | why do people put spaces before and after every little bit of punctuation? |
| 09:18.28 | Groktar | hello , have you seen a rogue named " badger ?" |
| 09:18.34 | Groktar | i don't get it |
| 09:18.44 | Kalroth | Groktar : Yeah,I hate that too . |
| 09:19.04 | Kalroth | :P |
| 09:19.18 | Groktar | people going to extra effort to do it wrong makes me :( |
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| 09:19.45 | Kalroth | The <word><space><questionmark> format is southern European, I believe |
| 09:20.09 | Kalroth | Something about the frenchies and their inability to type! |
| 09:20.14 | Groktar | what about " word " |
| 09:20.38 | NeoTron | remember that torment also adds 75% shadow dmg taken, not just fire |
| 09:20.55 | Kalroth | Groktar: What about " word "? |
| 09:21.51 | Groktar | it's all goodry engrish |
| 09:21.52 | Kalroth | I mean, in what context? :) |
| 09:21.59 | Legorol | Kalroth: not sure how France gets to be in southern Europe :) |
| 09:22.21 | Kalroth | Legorol: Anything below chav mainland is south! |
| 09:22.27 | Legorol | considering that it's further north than the geometrical center of both Europe as a continent and Europe as European Union |
| 09:22.40 | Groktar | it was a guy in trade chat on a us server |
| 09:22.57 | Legorol | "chav"? |
| 09:23.15 | Groktar | don't you mean " chav "? |
| 09:23.28 | Legorol | I don't know what chav is |
| 09:23.52 | sb|work | NeoTron: i know... |
| 09:24.23 | Groktar | i think you mean " NeoTron : i know ... " |
| 09:24.36 | sb|work | oh, sorry |
| 09:24.42 | sb|work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:31.18 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): completely revised internal link encoding/decoding |
| 09:31.20 | Repo | added fully automated link bitmap discovery |
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| 09:36.15 | thul | http://fc60.deviantart.com/fs40/f/2009/004/a/9/The_Fog_Part_5_by_bigskystudio.jpg <- that ass is pretty much snappy. |
| 09:36.17 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r26 / (3 files in 2 directories): removed some debug spam |
| 09:36.19 | thul | (pretty safe for work too) |
| 09:36.20 | Repo | changed version # in toc |
| 09:36.28 | orionshock | aight... so http://paste.wowace.com/225/ works for tooltips inside of AceGUI :) |
| 09:39.42 | Kalroth | Legorol: You don't know what a chav is? |
| 09:48.19 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r27 GnomishYellowPages.lua: fixed some string/number issues with level comparisons |
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| 10:07.22 | orionshock | ok a better working version of it: http://paste.wowace.com/226/ |
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| 10:24.47 | Zhinjio | orionshock: ping |
| 10:26.06 | Groktar | curls up in Zhinjio's lap and goes to sleep |
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| 10:27.20 | Fisker- | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:27.57 | Zhinjio | orionshock: was the JC "Shifting Sun Curio" space at the end of the questname change reverted? Cuz its back to failing agani |
| 10:28.20 | Zhinjio | s/agani/again/ |
| 10:28.59 | Repo | 10tiny-tip: 03twobits * r255 / (5 files in 3 directories): Update Dongle |
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| 10:31.36 | Groktar | http://www.theforum.com/photos/data/500/pierce.jpg |
| 10:35.37 | Wraithan | whoa |
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| 10:39.33 | Elkano | anyone else having problems with wowwiki currently? (can't connect/damn slow) |
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| 10:39.40 | Fisker- | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:41.16 | Groktar | puts more holes in Fisker- |
| 10:55.15 | Fisker- | sewer carps |
| 10:55.18 | Fisker- | MY ARCH NEMESIS |
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| 11:03.22 | Repo | 10tiny-tip: 03twobits * r256 .pkgmeta: |
| 11:03.25 | Repo | ok found what TinyTipTargets was moved to, fixed it in .pkgmeta |
| 11:05.54 | Xinhuan | http://www.steelseries.com/us/products/partners |
| 11:05.59 | Xinhuan | lol look at the demo |
| 11:06.06 | ramoz | tinytip is back? |
| 11:08.04 | Wobin | this demo takes longer to load than my game |
| 11:09.42 | Fisker- | is it worth shit? |
| 11:10.02 | Wobin | "a new way to OMGPWNBBQ"? |
| 11:10.05 | Wobin | terrible |
| 11:10.11 | Wobin | also |
| 11:10.15 | Wobin | 16Million colours |
| 11:10.19 | Wobin | ... for the mouse |
| 11:10.29 | Wobin | that makes it... er... worthwhile =P |
| 11:10.41 | Fisker- | definitely |
| 11:10.51 | Fisker- | extra mouse buttons would be nice though |
| 11:11.16 | Fisker- | i like maintaining a somewhat default set of keybindings |
| 11:11.55 | Repo | 10procodile: 03Zarnivoop 043.0-14 * r87 : |
| 11:11.58 | Repo | Periodic damage tracking fixed. Mana regen tracking added (Replenishment for example). Russian translation. Very short auras (before CD detection is complete) are now not shown. |
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| 11:40.27 | Cheadstina | uhm.. is Boomkin dps considered much lower than Shadow Priests or enhancement shamans? |
| 11:40.57 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 11:41.01 | nevcairiel | boomkins can do fine |
| 11:43.44 | Hjalte | Cheadstina: I do better dps than both our shadow priests at all times, but I might be slightly better geared. |
| 11:44.06 | Hjalte | I do more dps than everyone actually, which is kind of sad. |
| 11:44.14 | Hjalte | I'm a boomkin. |
| 11:47.48 | orionshock | Zhinjio: possibly, try it |
| 11:57.19 | Fisker- | nevcairiel ! |
| 11:57.27 | Fisker- | arch nemesis and so forth |
| 12:01.11 | Cheadstina | ok, thanks for the info |
| 12:04.26 | Grum | http://xkcd.com/537/ ... xkcd is awesome today :) |
| 12:05.03 | Legorol | Kalroth: no i don't know what a chav is |
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| 12:05.53 | Kalroth | Legorol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav |
| 12:06.42 | Kalroth | eg. if Grum was british, then he'd be a chav! |
| 12:09.08 | Legorol | thanks for enlightening |
| 12:10.27 | Grum | i think i should kill Kalroth now |
| 12:10.36 | Kalroth | :( |
| 12:10.50 | Kalroth | I would have insulted nevcairiel if he was around |
| 12:10.55 | Kalroth | if that makes you feel better, Grum? |
| 12:11.02 | Grum | you still breathing? |
| 12:11.06 | Grum | then no .. sorry |
| 12:11.54 | Kalroth | (note how Grum didn't deny it, he just got mad at me for calling him out!) |
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| 12:12.14 | Grum | i have no idea what a chav is; but it cant be good |
| 12:12.21 | Grum | (and no i dont care what it is) |
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| 12:13.10 | SunTsu | .o0( Grum knows it can't be good, because he is labeled so. Well, talking about self-awareness ... ;) ) |
| 12:13.59 | Grum | no, generally when people label and point its bad |
| 12:14.28 | Grum | like i could label Kalroth a retard; even if you dont know what a retard (kalroth) is; then it's still not very likely to be good. |
| 12:14.47 | many | so if i say internet explorer sucks, iam bad |
| 12:14.48 | many | cool |
| 12:15.07 | Kalroth | Grum, your logic is worse than mine, that makes you pretty bad! |
| 12:16.01 | SunTsu | Grum: Depends on attitude, right? ;) |
| 12:16.11 | Grum | SunTsu: aye :) |
| 12:16.31 | Kalroth | (he still haven't denied it) |
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| 12:16.37 | SunTsu | So if I call many a hero, and you don't know what a hero is you'd assume it's bad? ;) |
| 12:16.46 | many | grum: btw, isnt pointing that it (in your opinion) is bad, as bad as the original pointing? |
| 12:17.06 | Kalroth | Two pointings doesn't make a .. right? |
| 12:17.22 | Grum | Kalroth: i still have no idea what it is (and i don't care) |
| 12:17.31 | many | it doesnt make a left, either, hopefully |
| 12:17.35 | Kalroth | Knowledge is power! |
| 12:17.39 | many | ugh. choke. |
| 12:17.49 | Grum | listening to fools is cumbersome :) |
| 12:18.03 | Grum | s/fools/Kalroth/ |
| 12:18.06 | Grum | fits better :p |
| 12:18.07 | many | the one-eyed is the king amongst blinds |
| 12:18.13 | Kalroth | is king! |
| 12:18.32 | SunTsu | Only until some of the blinds start poking towards him ;) |
| 12:18.33 | Grum | draws a crosshair on the king. |
| 12:18.39 | many | Kalroth: are you right-eye or are you lefteye? |
| 12:18.46 | Kalroth | thanks Grum for the pretty tattoo. |
| 12:19.00 | Kalroth | many: That's a bit personal, don't you think? :( |
| 12:19.14 | many | i asked for your eye, not for your balls. |
| 12:19.16 | many | so: no |
| 12:19.27 | Grum | Kalroth: left or right hanging? |
| 12:19.31 | many | everyone can see it! |
| 12:19.35 | many | well, besides the blinds anyway. |
| 12:19.43 | Grum | hehe i was just typing it ;) |
| 12:20.16 | Kalroth | Yes and since I'm king of this chat room, you're all obviously blind. |
| 12:20.16 | many | is it obvious if youre blind? |
| 12:20.16 | Grum | ckknight: could you 'touch' Kalroth please? :D |
| 12:20.22 | many | s/if youre/to the/ |
| 12:20.27 | Kalroth | ckk touches me in the right places every night |
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| 12:20.43 | Kalroth | many: I don't think I'm blind, any way to prove otherwise? |
| 12:20.54 | many | Kalroth: i dont see you, so: no :( |
| 12:21.30 | many | actually i knew someone who wrote perl over ssh on an windows NT machine. |
| 12:21.32 | Kalroth | So basically even if I think I can see others, there's no way to prove it. So I might actually be blind without knowing it. |
| 12:21.41 | Kalroth | What's wrong with that? :P |
| 12:21.59 | many | +he was, or rather is, blind |
| 12:22.13 | Kalroth | Oh, that's pretty cool :) |
| 12:22.16 | Grum | many: perl on windows? o.O |
| 12:22.17 | Groktar | i forgot all my trig identities @$#%Qf3qr |
| 12:22.32 | many | yea, i never grasped how one uses windows NT using a braille input only |
| 12:22.40 | Kalroth | Groktar is a chav too and he's proud about it! |
| 12:22.49 | many | but it looked amazing when following his actions on a tft |
| 12:22.51 | Groktar | devours Kalroth's soul |
| 12:23.06 | many | Grum: no. via ssh. |
| 12:23.24 | Grum | that is how normal people get away from windows |
| 12:23.24 | Kalroth | Nooo, not my barry white. |
| 12:23.27 | Grum | putty ftw ;D |
| 12:23.35 | many | heh. |
| 12:23.44 | many | i run windows for the sole pÃurpose that wow under linux sucks balls |
| 12:23.54 | Grum | same hehe |
| 12:24.32 | Kalroth | I run Windows because it got one semi-decent GUI instead of 45 branches and 32 "standards". |
| 12:24.37 | many | some say, wows directx usage is sick. but theyve neven seen the GL one |
| 12:24.42 | many | :( |
| 12:24.49 | SunTsu | Hehe 'Wise man once said, "Women come and go, but epics are soulbound."' |
| 12:25.15 | Grum | s/ and go// |
| 12:25.17 | many | actually i got my first piece for the EPIC achievement \o/ |
| 12:26.08 | many | "we need a moonkin aura _now_, we dont care what your current equip is." "oh, a relic for a moonkin. only one moonkin here; well, there you go..." |
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| 12:26.11 | many | oO |
| 12:26.13 | SunTsu | many: I run WoW/Wine under FreeBSD with OpenGL and it runs quite fine |
| 12:26.24 | many | SunTsu: you got used to the flappy FPS |
| 12:26.39 | many | really, the output is much smoother when directx |
| 12:26.49 | SunTsu | many: actually I only have 10 fps less than I had with windows |
| 12:26.52 | many | the wine got me getting nervous after 30 minutes |
| 12:26.55 | many | SunTsu: not less, flappy |
| 12:27.22 | many | it seems as if the fps is for internal buffers only and the output is delayed |
| 12:27.31 | many | but maybe its just some nvidia suckage |
| 12:27.38 | many | wouldnt be surprised |
| 12:27.49 | SunTsu | many: Maybe I got used to whatever I didn't notice by now |
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| 12:28.57 | many | SunTsu: my fps under linux is the same just like in windows, maybe 1 or 2 below, but rather uninteresting. however the way pictures are updated on the display, is... nervous. its a complete unsteady flow. |
| 12:29.12 | many | its.. irritating |
| 12:29.45 | SunTsu | many: Never ever noticed that |
| 12:30.05 | many | SunTsu: are you one of those who wouldnt notice 60hz crts? :P |
| 12:30.25 | SunTsu | many: In fact I have 60Hz crts ;) |
| 12:30.38 | Groktar | politely asks many to never mention 60hz and crt in the same sentence ever again |
| 12:30.38 | many | ouch. that would make my head burn within seconds |
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| 12:31.55 | many | Groktar: seriously. at a company i worked previously, i had to go to the secretarys desktop. first thing i'd do is to raise the freq to 72hz. next day she'd call and ask me what ive done, only to turn it BACK to 60 hz. |
| 12:32.24 | many | needless to say that i needed a new table after the cal |
| 12:32.25 | many | l |
| 12:33.08 | Kalroth | Pfft, wussies! I used to run interlaced on a TV back on my A500! |
| 12:33.28 | many | pats his 1680x1050 TFTs |
| 12:33.55 | Groktar | steals them |
| 12:33.56 | Kalroth | pats his 1920x1200 TFTs :P |
| 12:34.00 | Kalroth | uh oh |
| 12:34.04 | SunTsu | many: Well, I had the choice between those two babies or no screens at all |
| 12:34.06 | many | haha |
| 12:34.06 | Kalroth | hides his 1920x1200 TFTs. |
| 12:34.29 | Groktar | looks for a mysterious glowing light |
| 12:34.33 | Kalroth | SunTsu: You had a choice, eh? So why didn't you go for the screens! |
| 12:34.37 | many | Groktar: you deliver the 1920ies, you get the 1680ies |
| 12:34.50 | many | Kalroth: he has screen(1). |
| 12:34.57 | Groktar | right now i have 1680x1050 and a 1440x900 |
| 12:35.01 | Kalroth | detached? |
| 12:35.03 | many | multiple too, i bet |
| 12:35.12 | many | aslong as he types, its probably attached |
| 12:35.31 | many | or maybe he runs eliza.pl inside irssi, you never know suntsu |
| 12:35.50 | Groktar | my 1680x1050 is an old dell 2005fpw |
| 12:35.50 | Kalroth | SunTsu: Are you Turing verified? |
| 12:35.51 | SunTsu | actually, right now I have screen(1) in screen(1) ;) |
| 12:36.01 | SunTsu | Kalroth: No, he never talked to me |
| 12:36.03 | Groktar | it looks really good, but ghosting makes me :( |
| 12:36.18 | Groktar | my other one is a magical mystery acer |
| 12:36.29 | Groktar | horrible colors but little to no ghosting |
| 12:36.38 | many | FSC A22something, LG 22" something, Samsung 20". and those 20" 1680iies are like... *rawr* |
| 12:36.49 | many | haha |
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| 12:37.30 | many | i have one LG 17" here. comparing the colors of the 17" and the 22" is like... uh. magical differences, really. |
| 12:37.46 | many | some sites you cant view on the 17" because the contrast is soooo low |
| 12:38.34 | many | basically everything is white upto #E0E0E0 or something :) |
| 12:41.43 | Megalon | I'm glad with my EIZO i bought some years ago |
| 12:41.53 | Megalon | cost more then the cheapos, but totally worth it |
| 12:42.59 | Megalon | friend told me to also look at their products, as i didn't even knew that company to that day |
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| 12:44.13 | SunTsu | has an EIZO, too |
| 12:44.35 | SunTsu | In the basement, 22" crt, too lazy to carry that monster up into my flat |
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| 12:59.12 | Xinhuan | time to make huge commits! |
| 12:59.32 | Grum | to what Xin? :D |
| 12:59.36 | Xinhuan | to postal |
| 12:59.39 | Xinhuan | and see if anything breaks |
| 12:59.54 | nevcairiel | all breaks |
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| 13:02.07 | Xinhuan | considering its about 20 svn prop changes, about 10 file and folder deletions, 1 new file, and stuff, we'll see ;p |
| 13:04.17 | Xinhuan | commit hook failed - didn't set eol:style on the new file lol |
| 13:04.58 | Megalon | commitment to huge! |
| 13:05.11 | Repo | 10postal: 03Xinhuan * r223 / (14 files in 4 directories): |
| 13:05.14 | Repo | Huge rewrite of Postal to Ace3, dropping DewdropLib, and using the wowace localization app. DejaVu module is merged into BlackBook. |
| 13:05.28 | Xinhuan | oh that was smooth! |
| 13:06.43 | Xinhuan | who wants to try it |
| 13:06.49 | Megalon | me me me!!! |
| 13:07.18 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/postal/files/518-r223/ |
| 13:07.33 | Megalon | already installed ;x |
| 13:07.37 | Megalon | restarting wow |
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| 13:10.52 | Megalon | oh, blackbook and alts |
| 13:11.03 | Megalon | does it use that prat lib? |
| 13:11.10 | Xinhuan | no |
| 13:11.10 | Megalon | libalts or what it's called |
| 13:11.19 | Megalon | just login on alts? |
| 13:11.24 | Xinhuan | it just remembers every char you logged on |
| 13:11.37 | Xinhuan | and shows it in the alt menu if it is on the same realm and faction |
| 13:11.44 | Megalon | oh nice |
| 13:12.12 | Megalon | was that feature always there? never noticed it |
| 13:12.38 | Xinhuan | its new |
| 13:12.43 | Xinhuan | to postal-ace3-rewrite |
| 13:13.13 | Xinhuan | its mainly to facilitate auto-completion |
| 13:13.31 | Megalon | ah ok |
| 13:13.34 | Xinhuan | i hooked name autocomplete to include the alts list.. and all the other lists |
| 13:13.43 | Megalon | because until now i had all twinks on the friendslist |
| 13:13.48 | Megalon | for exactly that :> |
| 13:13.53 | Repo | 10grid-indicator-text3: 03kunda 04r41-beta * r42 : Tagging as r41-beta |
| 13:14.03 | Xinhuan | yes, that's the reason mainly |
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| 13:21.19 | Xinhuan | the fact that there is no libstub library for dewdrop |
| 13:21.21 | Repo | 10grid-status-mts: 03kunda 04r34-release * r35 : Tagging as r34-release |
| 13:21.31 | Xinhuan | does mean that 50% of the code in postal is UIDropDownMenu stuff ;p |
| 13:21.52 | Xinhuan | definitely uses less memory than config tables though |
| 13:22.15 | Arrowmaster | and has the annoying close randomly bug |
| 13:22.39 | Xinhuan | it closes on ppl PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED |
| 13:22.45 | Xinhuan | its far from random |
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| 13:23.08 | nevcairiel | that event fires randomly though |
| 13:23.13 | Arrowmaster | closes randomly when im soloing though |
| 13:23.27 | Xinhuan | i highly doubt you will get the menu to close when at the mailbox |
| 13:23.35 | Xinhuan | since the options are only available at the mailbox |
| 13:23.46 | thul | why did not firefly go on :-( |
| 13:23.49 | Xinhuan | i didn't even include AceConsole-3.0 |
| 13:23.57 | thul | absolutt |
| 13:23.57 | Xinhuan | because it isn't needed |
| 13:24.16 | Xinhuan | no more slash commands |
| 13:25.28 | Xinhuan | the menu is actually a bit more flexible since its scriptable now compared to a semi-static options table |
| 13:26.05 | Xinhuan | and i threw all 8 locales into 1 file, since its all autogenerated now |
| 13:26.18 | Xinhuan | no real reason to split into 8 files anymore |
| 13:26.44 | Bruners | Xinhuan: thank you |
| 13:27.17 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/postal/localization/ |
| 13:27.21 | Xinhuan | needs a bit of loving |
| 13:27.34 | Hjalte | Adirelle: Ping |
| 13:30.44 | Repo | 10postal: 03Xinhuan 04v3.1beta * r224 : Tag v3.1beta for public testing. |
| 13:31.33 | Fisker- | why so postal? |
| 13:31.49 | Fisker- | What's new since BetterInbox got better etc? |
| 13:32.03 | thul | fisks Fisker- |
| 13:32.07 | kenlyric | it's not all that better |
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| 13:32.11 | Xinhuan | its just a rewrite to ace3, there isn't anything "better" ;p |
| 13:32.14 | kenlyric | stupid lunar festival |
| 13:32.21 | Fisker- | :( |
| 13:32.36 | Fisker- | stupid giant sewer rat |
| 13:32.38 | kenlyric | it's no bulkmail |
| 13:32.46 | kenlyric | which thankfully continues to work |
| 13:32.54 | Grum | you are just not rat-worthy Fisker- |
| 13:33.08 | Groktar | hide a hat inside Fisker-'s computer |
| 13:33.09 | Bruners | Xinhuan: thats just a tag from r224 ? |
| 13:33.15 | Groktar | also hides a rat |
| 13:33.17 | Xinhuan | from r223 yes |
| 13:33.25 | Bruners | ment 223 :) |
| 13:33.59 | Fisker- | you can't Groktar |
| 13:34.07 | Groktar | no? |
| 13:34.11 | Fisker- | nope |
| 13:34.43 | Bruners | one to go and im ace2 free |
| 13:35.02 | Xinhuan | what is it? quartz? |
| 13:35.09 | Bruners | ratingbuster |
| 13:35.14 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:35.22 | Xinhuan | you can try jerry's ratingbuster replacement |
| 13:35.25 | Xinhuan | forgot what it was called |
| 13:35.27 | Hjalte | Ooh, that's something they should put in the new Curse Client. Being able to see what addons use certain libraries. |
| 13:35.31 | Hjalte | goes to make a ticket. |
| 13:35.39 | kenlyric | what's wrong with ratingbuster? |
| 13:35.49 | Hjalte | Xinhuan: Ratings. |
| 13:35.52 | Xinhuan | nothing wrong, other than him saying its his last addon using ace2 ;p |
| 13:38.03 | Whitetooth | Bruners: The latest ratingbuster alpha is ace3 |
| 13:39.07 | Fisker- | is it stable enough to work? :P |
| 13:39.29 | Xinhuan | worth a try right? |
| 13:39.35 | Bruners | seems like i lied, gpriceeach also got ace2 |
| 13:41.44 | gix | Xinhuan: are there any rules regarding capitalization in translations? |
| 13:41.58 | Xinhuan | like what? |
| 13:42.38 | Bruners | my guess is that they should follow that languages rules for capitalization |
| 13:42.52 | gix | Xinhuan: well i just saw "Open All" <-> "Alle Öffnen" |
| 13:43.45 | Xinhuan | that was the translation that was in postal for the last 3 years |
| 13:43.51 | Xinhuan | i merely imported in the old ones |
| 13:43.58 | Whitetooth | Do functions and tables work with the wowace localization feature? |
| 13:44.07 | Xinhuan | no whitetooth |
| 13:44.12 | Xinhuan | it doesn't |
| 13:44.22 | Whitetooth | ahh :( |
| 13:45.16 | Xinhuan | my postal locale file looks like this |
| 13:45.16 | Xinhuan | http://paste.wowace.com/227/ |
| 13:45.32 | Xinhuan | the packager just replaces the |
| 13:45.32 | Xinhuan | --@localization(locale="enUS", format="lua_additive_table", same-key-is-true=true, table-name="L")@ |
| 13:45.38 | Xinhuan | lines with the key-value pairs |
| 13:45.43 | Xinhuan | L["blah"] = "moo" |
| 13:47.16 | Hjalte | http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curse-client-beta/tickets/75-information-about-libraries-installed/ Go go vote. |
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| 13:57.43 | Bruners | Whitetooth: just to let you know, the Sovereign Twilight Opal and Perfect Sovereign Shadow Crystal doesnt show up in RB |
| 13:58.27 | Whitetooth | Bruners: what do you mean by show up? |
| 13:59.11 | Fisker- | btw Antiarc |
| 13:59.12 | Bruners | Whitetooth: + 16 strength (0,08% parry) |
| 13:59.16 | Fisker- | ~seen Antiarc |
| 13:59.41 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (6h 14m 45s) #wowace (6h 14m 45s) #curseforge (6h 14m 45s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 6h 13m 57s, last said: 'It just needs some polish'. |
| 13:59.41 | Antiarc | sup |
| 14:00.03 | Bruners | Whitetooth: for parry, im bad at explaining :P |
| 14:00.05 | Fisker- | vanakos colors chat based on hate/goodlist |
| 14:00.17 | Fisker- | But it breaks with chatter (probably the class color module) |
| 14:00.19 | Bruners | Whitetooth: the attack power works |
| 14:01.02 | Whitetooth | hmm |
| 14:01.48 | Whitetooth | checking on my DK |
| 14:03.52 | Whitetooth | Bruners: works for me |
| 14:05.02 | Groktar | why do BOTH the str/sta and str/crit patterns have to be super rare drops? |
| 14:05.22 | Bruners | :( |
| 14:05.31 | Groktar | forcing me to get AP |
| 14:05.32 | Groktar | :( |
| 14:06.09 | Groktar | i DEMAND my missing 1.6ap per gem |
| 14:06.19 | Whitetooth | Bruners: oh, I found out how it doesn't work |
| 14:06.41 | Bruners | Groktar: the Perfect Sovereign Shadow Crystal is better than 16 ap stam |
| 14:07.07 | Bruners | Groktar: 7 str 11 stam * kings * buffs |
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| 14:07.28 | Groktar | .6ap less? |
| 14:07.35 | Bruners | unbuffed it gives me 15.8 ap |
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| 14:07.40 | Bruners | close to 18 buffed |
| 14:07.47 | Xinhuan | "There isn't a huge difference in GatherMate and Gatherer. Infact, i use them both side by side." |
| 14:07.48 | Xinhuan | wow |
| 14:07.50 | Groktar | do you have a str multiplier? |
| 14:08.01 | Groktar | i have 10% ap, but no str |
| 14:08.34 | Groktar | so the only thing that would make 7 str > 16ap would be kings |
| 14:08.35 | Bruners | Groktar: blood DK http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jfVMVh0IsdRxzAoZfM0htco |
| 14:10.18 | Bruners | 4 talents that increases str % |
| 14:10.18 | Fisker- | i can't believe it's not sewer carp |
| 14:10.52 | Groktar | ooh, wicked monarch topaz is exalted ebon blade rep |
| 14:10.53 | Groktar | i have that! |
| 14:11.05 | Fisker- | what's the mod Bruners ? |
| 14:12.06 | Bruners | Fisker-: 2%+6%+2%+3% |
| 14:12.39 | Fisker- | aww |
| 14:12.42 | Fisker- | i was expecting more |
| 14:12.55 | Bruners | 23% with kings |
| 14:13.21 | Bruners | and then 10% ap from that when abominations might procs |
| 14:13.28 | Bruners | its always up :P |
| 14:13.38 | Fisker- | 15%+10% here |
| 14:14.32 | Fisker- | want hit/expertise talents :E |
| 14:14.43 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r74 / (2 files in 1 directory): clean up yesterday's hack a little bit |
| 14:14.59 | Bruners | i get 11 exp from talents |
| 14:15.08 | Fisker- | hax |
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| 14:15.31 | Repo | 10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia 041.1.1 * r75 : Tagging as release 1.1.1 |
| 14:16.11 | Groktar | i would rather have talents to increase my str |
| 14:16.16 | Shot` | @project mobile-vault |
| 14:16.17 | Repo | Shot`: http://www.wowace.com/projects/mobile-vault/. Mobile Vault. Game: WoW. Starinnia (Manager/Author). Updated: 31 seconds ago |
| 14:16.20 | Bruners | 6% stam/str and 6 expertise from a 3 point talent is nice |
| 14:17.01 | Groktar | and then i have 3 points for 3% hit as fury |
| 14:17.03 | Groktar | lolwat |
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| 14:18.20 | Bruners | warriors can go fu themselfs stealing my weapons twice |
| 14:19.04 | Fisker- | THIS IS MY MADNESS FACE |
| 14:19.12 | Bruners | its not fair that both warriors got two weapons thats better than mine |
| 14:19.35 | Bruners | and still im beating them on dammage |
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| 14:23.47 | Yheen | huhu :) |
| 14:23.51 | Yheen | I white unfortunately however not do not have a problem many more used of magealert the problem that their system a half second freeze I that it lie could someone times my SOURCE regard? |
| 14:24.42 | Yheen | sry 4 my english :D |
| 14:24.53 | Bruners | i didnt understand half of that |
| 14:25.03 | SunTsu | Yheen: Could you please make shorter sentences that are easier to read? |
| 14:25.31 | Bruners | Yheen: what translation page are you using ? |
| 14:25.39 | Yheen | one of my user write: everytime something procs theres a total freez of the screen for half a sec, and its not due to my system lagging in performance (Q6600 clocked to 3.2, 4x1 GB ram and a GTX 280) |
| 14:25.50 | Yheen | bablefish :D |
| 14:26.06 | Shot` | That 2nd one came out much better :) |
| 14:26.12 | Bruners | Yheen: try to run them twice, translation from what you wrote into your language |
| 14:26.18 | Bruners | Yheen: then back again |
| 14:26.54 | SunTsu | Or ask someone native to germany to translate ist ;) |
| 14:27.05 | SunTsu | s/ist/it/ damn ;) |
| 14:27.15 | Yheen | :) |
| 14:27.24 | Bruners | germans dont speak english ? |
| 14:28.01 | Yheen | ja wvierle meiner user klagen darüber das ihr system für ne halbe sekunde einfriet ich weis net woran es liegt kann sich wer meine source ansehen |
| 14:28.04 | SunTsu | Bruners: I hardly do, but I'm trying y very best |
| 14:28.27 | SunTsu | "my" |
| 14:29.33 | SunTsu | Ah, Yheen is looking for somebody to look at his code because his user's systems freeze up for a second - when I anything proccs, I suppose |
| 14:29.33 | Yheen | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/magealert.aspx |
| 14:30.13 | Bruners | Yheen: i think http://translate.google.com/ is better than bable |
| 14:30.22 | Shot` | Hillsbrad looks so bare and empty now compared to howling fjord & grizzly hills |
| 14:30.28 | SunTsu | Unfortunately I suck at lua even more than I do at english |
| 14:30.32 | Shot` | great big patches of nothingness on the ground |
| 14:30.51 | Yheen | Suntsu: Right ... thx :) |
| 14:31.03 | Yheen | thx burner |
| 14:31.35 | SunTsu | Shot`: I really like about nothrend that everything looks alive so much. Even critters fighting each other |
| 14:31.44 | Bruners | SunTsu: i do understand some german :P |
| 14:31.54 | Shot` | makes levelling in the old world even worse though :( |
| 14:31.57 | Yheen | hihi |
| 14:32.31 | Bruners | actually i got a 3 on my oral exam in german :P |
| 14:32.47 | Yheen | -.- |
| 14:32.48 | Yheen | gz |
| 14:32.49 | Yheen | :D |
| 14:32.52 | SunTsu | Shot`: Yeah, but leveling really doesn't take that much time anymore |
| 14:33.10 | SunTsu | Bruners: Congrats, I dropped german as early as I could ;) |
| 14:33.25 | Shot` | long enough that I don't want to do it again any time soon |
| 14:33.25 | Bruners | SunTsu: had to have it for 3 years :( |
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| 14:34.21 | SunTsu | Bruners: Being native german, I really am allowed to say that: german sucks big time. Horrible language. |
| 14:34.49 | many | not worse than other languages |
| 14:35.11 | Yheen | :P |
| 14:35.20 | onaforeignshore | latin is way worse than german |
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| 14:35.47 | Bruners | Danish is the worst |
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| 14:35.57 | SunTsu | many: depends on what you compare it with |
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| 14:36.06 | many | puhutko suomea? |
| 14:36.33 | Bruners | Finnish? |
| 14:36.44 | Yheen | can anyone see my source? would be really nice:) |
| 14:36.49 | many | kyllä |
| 14:37.13 | Shot` | Yheen: I'm looking, but can't see any reason it would freeze up |
| 14:37.16 | SunTsu | Yheen: I could, but it won't help you at all |
| 14:37.22 | thul | good daaay |
| 14:37.32 | Yheen | i thik it's the flash but i don't know |
| 14:38.12 | Shot` | It's the most likely thing, yes - but I can't see why |
| 14:38.15 | Bruners | many: luls, it was finnish :) |
| 14:38.35 | Yheen | Is there a way to flash else to do? |
| 14:38.42 | onaforeignshore | @project handynotes |
| 14:38.44 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/projects/handynotes/. HandyNotes. Game: WoW. Xinhuan (Manager/Author). Updated: 52 days ago. Tickets: 3/5 |
| 14:38.47 | many | Bruners: yea, my fourwords i know of fincrypt |
| 14:38.59 | Bruners | hehe |
| 14:39.16 | Bruners | finnish people are mostly good at english arent they? |
| 14:39.24 | many | dunno |
| 14:39.32 | Bruners | those close to sweeden speak swedish at least |
| 14:39.35 | many | didnt find them horrible |
| 14:39.50 | many | usually swedes speak fincrypt and vice versa |
| 14:39.54 | Yheen | the flash effect such as these as if xperl man has aggro |
| 14:39.58 | Bruners | the french dont speak anything other than french |
| 14:40.02 | many | there was a reason, but i dont remember what |
| 14:40.20 | many | they put whitespaces before punctuation marks |
| 14:40.24 | many | whaddya expect |
| 14:40.38 | Bruners | after 4 hours of driving in paris we found one guy at a gas station that could speak english |
| 14:40.39 | many | and write their last names all caps |
| 14:41.15 | Megalon | Bruners: french = the egofuckers |
| 14:41.25 | Yheen | Burners: I know that comes before |
| 14:41.30 | Bruners | many: i believe swedes and fins had an union of some sorts |
| 14:42.11 | SunTsu | Bruners: Hehe, I had the same problem. Visiting france for a weekend without speaking french. I was busy all the time with finding something to eat I could point to or a sleeping place where I was barely able to make myself clear |
| 14:42.59 | Megalon | in france it's like |
| 14:43.04 | Tinyboom | Yheen: hmm, I use mage alert and I don't have that problem at all... |
| 14:43.08 | Megalon | "speak french with me of diaf" |
| 14:43.10 | SunTsu | The only guy I met who was able to speak english was able to speak french, italian and german, too. He was a brit. |
| 14:43.13 | Yheen | me too ^^ |
| 14:43.15 | Megalon | s/of/or/ |
| 14:43.28 | Megalon | even when you know they understand you |
| 14:43.31 | onaforeignshore | what's the use of modularising an addon and then being unable to dis/enable a mod ingame? |
| 14:43.51 | Bruners | onaforeignshore: easyer to maintain ? |
| 14:43.54 | Yheen | I had the problem only once when I had to omnicc |
| 14:44.15 | onaforeignshore | come on - en/disable is like 3 lines of code if you do it right |
| 14:44.19 | Bruners | many, Yheen do you learn english in school ? |
| 14:44.51 | Yheen | jep |
| 14:45.27 | Yheen | with a C |
| 14:45.37 | Yheen | or 3 in german |
| 14:45.38 | Yheen | ^^ |
| 14:45.47 | Bruners | at what level do you start? |
| 14:45.55 | Bruners | we start in third grade |
| 14:46.43 | Yheen | in the 5. |
| 14:47.00 | onaforeignshore | @project guilder |
| 14:47.00 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/projects/guilder/. Guilder. Game: WoW. onaforeignshore (Manager/Author). Updated: 5 days ago |
| 14:47.18 | onaforeignshore | still no tickets so either it works 100% or no-one is using it :p |
| 14:47.26 | many | Bruners: yes, 5. |
| 14:47.27 | steev | @describe guilder |
| 14:47.28 | Repo | steev: http://www.wowace.com/projects/guilder/. Guilder. Guilder attempts to make guild member's life easier by bringing tasks together in one quickly accessable location. (This addon uses Ace3 and libdatabroker) If you are using a "bar" addon like FuBar... |
| 14:47.35 | SunTsu | Bruners: 5th grade, you normally are 10 years old, then. But there are projects right now to teach pupils in primary school, which they enter at age of 6 |
| 14:47.43 | steev | what kind of tasks? |
| 14:49.48 | Yheen | English was the man in the school learns nothing can be done for use as man learns words as eissen drink or how the man explained away |
| 14:50.08 | Groktar | what? |
| 14:50.30 | quiescens | moo |
| 14:50.32 | Yheen | the english that i'm lerning is school is crap ^^ |
| 14:50.38 | Yheen | in ^^ |
| 14:50.49 | SunTsu | I think he means that what you learn in german schools is not useful, as you only learn the mot basic words |
| 14:50.52 | SunTsu | most even |
| 14:50.58 | onaforeignshore | it's in the description on the page, but in a nutshell - which officers are online, a busy responder, a crowd control announcer so far. to be added are a dumper (dump the whole guild into a textbox ready to paste into a spreadsheet), a manager - store information like join date, etc in the Officers' notes field, a demoter - demote according to how many days offline, a macro manager - share macros in a raid / group |
| 14:51.16 | Yheen | thx suntsu |
| 14:51.36 | Groktar | well, i learned only the most basic german in high school |
| 14:51.52 | Groktar | none of which i remember since i haven't practiced in 8 years |
| 14:52.05 | Arrowmaster | i took 2 years of spanish and the only thing i can remember is 'no hablo espaniol' |
| 14:52.15 | Yheen | Groktar plz ask me something in german ;D |
| 14:52.15 | SunTsu | I basically got my vocabulary from "The Bard's Tale" *g* |
| 14:52.36 | Groktar | wo bist du? |
| 14:52.38 | Groktar | lol |
| 14:52.41 | Yheen | lol |
| 14:53.13 | Yheen | where are u ? |
| 14:53.16 | Yheen | :> |
| 14:53.30 | Groktar | wieviel forelle hast du? |
| 14:53.35 | SunTsu | .o0( and passed my final english exam by mixing my some Manowar lyrics with my own sentences ) |
| 14:53.48 | Groktar | pretty soon i'll run out of nouns |
| 14:53.49 | SunTsu | s/my// |
| 14:53.51 | Yheen | none :P |
| 14:54.00 | Bruners | essen und scheißen das kanst du aber arbeiten kanst du nicht |
| 14:54.13 | Yheen | lol |
| 14:54.24 | Groktar | kanst? |
| 14:54.29 | Megalon | Groktar: you can always use sauerkraut! |
| 14:54.33 | Yheen | *kannst* |
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| 14:54.44 | Repo | 10cartographer: 03AbydosLanti * r2296 / (3 files in 3 directories): Instance map updates |
| 14:54.46 | Yheen | -.- |
| 14:54.47 | Groktar | i was asking what it means |
| 14:54.51 | Megalon | can |
| 14:55.01 | Bruners | Groktar: took that from my head :P |
| 14:55.10 | Groktar | seemed too simple >< |
| 14:55.13 | Yheen | Groktar kanst = "kannst" = can |
| 14:56.47 | many | Bruners: you are able to eat and shit, but youre unable to work |
| 14:57.30 | Groktar | is that really how that sentence should be constructed? |
| 14:58.19 | Yheen | we can come back to my problem, and so I did not because my bad english speaking |
| 14:58.22 | Bruners | no idea |
| 14:59.07 | Bruners | hmm, i cant write double s in my terminal |
| 14:59.14 | Groktar | :/ |
| 14:59.19 | quiescens | ß? |
| 14:59.20 | Yheen | ? |
| 14:59.21 | Groktar | what happens when you try? |
| 14:59.22 | Yheen | ß |
| 14:59.26 | Bruners | á |
| 14:59.29 | Yheen | write ss |
| 14:59.36 | Groktar | ^ |
| 14:59.37 | Bruners | alt+225 |
| 14:59.38 | quiescens | that's more of a á |
| 14:59.51 | Groktar | 0223 or 225 |
| 15:00.07 | Bruners | 0223 works |
| 15:00.11 | many | ß != double s |
| 15:00.19 | many | ß == sz |
| 15:00.19 | Yheen | right |
| 15:00.28 | quiescens | knowing character codes is a parlour trick |
| 15:00.34 | quiescens | lol |
| 15:00.43 | Groktar | ß -> ss in my german classes |
| 15:00.43 | Yheen | u talk sz but write ss |
| 15:00.44 | winkiller | ¿ why ? |
| 15:00.48 | Arrowmaster | ß |
| 15:00.49 | quiescens | easier to just use a digraph input system |
| 15:00.55 | Arrowmaster | i didnt even know the character code |
| 15:01.00 | Arrowmaster | just typed altgr+s |
| 15:01.08 | Arrowmaster | § |
| 15:01.13 | SunTsu | .o0( Luckily screen(1) can input digraphs ) |
| 15:01.18 | many | Groktar: its often used as being the same |
| 15:01.20 | winkiller | altgr + s pops up the new server connection window |
| 15:01.20 | many | infact it is not |
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| 15:01.31 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r38 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: add a query to the server before calling GetItemInfo |
| 15:01.32 | many | the name ofr ß is ess-zet (sz) |
| 15:01.34 | Arrowmaster | winkiller: then you dont really have an altgr |
| 15:01.40 | winkiller | many: in Switzerland, it is :P |
| 15:02.02 | winkiller | Arrowmaster: Ido. alt s is the "scripts" menu |
| 15:02.11 | winkiller | depends on your charset, I think |
| 15:02.17 | SunTsu | winkiller: in switzerland there are lots of strange things ;) like "parkieren" ;) |
| 15:02.28 | winkiller | we have ß on the keyboard, why would we have altgr+s for it? |
| 15:02.29 | many | winkiller: weiss vs weiß |
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| 15:02.33 | Arrowmaster | maybe, im using us engligh international |
| 15:02.36 | winkiller | SunTsu: true :P |
| 15:02.39 | Bruners | i have a german keyboard here |
| 15:02.44 | Bruners | stupid qwert< |
| 15:02.45 | Bruners | z |
| 15:02.49 | winkiller | many: .ch has no ß. it is weiss / weiss :) |
| 15:03.00 | many | winkiller: stupid lingua :P |
| 15:03.07 | winkiller | got tell them |
| 15:03.09 | winkiller | -t |
| 15:03.45 | SunTsu | But great chocolate, and that#s what counts ;) |
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| 15:04.21 | Bruners | belgians that got good chocolate isnt it ? |
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| 15:04.53 | winkiller | so they say |
| 15:04.56 | thul | belgians got strawberry beer. |
| 15:05.00 | many | Groktar: seriously, ß aint ss. with the latest rulechanges in german lingua its often used similarily, also since those too lazy to use 8bit on the 'net adapted it like that |
| 15:05.07 | winkiller | but the swiss chocolate is cheaper and better available |
| 15:05.11 | SunTsu | Bruners: Yeah, too. And great waffles of stomach destruction ;) |
| 15:05.22 | winkiller | lol |
| 15:05.26 | steev | what is the spell that has the same initial animation as death and decay - but its blue? |
| 15:05.30 | many | Groktar: but you find quite alot of people who actually write sz |
| 15:05.40 | thul | steev: desecration? :-P |
| 15:05.40 | winkiller | a lot? |
| 15:05.43 | thul | or, that is grey |
| 15:05.45 | steev | thul: no |
| 15:05.51 | many | winkiller: okay |
| 15:05.51 | winkiller | In 8 years of irc, I know one person who does that, many |
| 15:05.53 | SunTsu | steev: Blizzard |
| 15:05.56 | steev | it looks exactly like the circle for death and decay |
| 15:05.58 | steev | SunTsu: ahh okay |
| 15:06.00 | Bruners | many: we learn that ß is double s |
| 15:06.00 | many | *I* know a lot of them |
| 15:06.01 | SunTsu | steev: as of the latest patch |
| 15:06.02 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r979 / (2 files in 1 directory): Recount: |
| 15:06.06 | Repo | - Fixed bug of main window visibility changes when GlobalDataCollect is off. |
| 15:06.08 | winkiller | :P |
| 15:06.09 | Repo | - Added fast rejection of combat log events that are of no interest. This should reject all aura events and hopefully help under severly bursty CL situations from aura changes. |
| 15:06.10 | many | usually the better educated, i bet. :P |
| 15:06.14 | quiescens | obviously we realise it isn't the same per se otherwise presumably they wouldn't both exist, but ultimately language is as people choose to use it |
| 15:06.15 | steev | SunTsu: ahh okay |
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| 15:06.31 | many | Bruners: tell your teacher what a native german said |
| 15:06.35 | many | look! a huntard! |
| 15:06.42 | winkiller | yeah, all those computer scientist can sod off, they'll use ss anyway :> |
| 15:06.49 | jaeger | many: ironically, no |
| 15:06.54 | many | hehe |
| 15:06.56 | winkiller | I find sz a b it archaic |
| 15:06.58 | Bruners | many: im done with schools that teach that :P |
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| 15:07.20 | SunTsu | many: Hm, the question is: would I want to take any given german's comments on german language for serious? ;) "ei's" *g* |
| 15:07.50 | many | SunTsu: you lost me |
| 15:08.02 | thul | http://fc15.deviantart.com/fs40/i/2009/030/c/3/Breakfast_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of teh day |
| 15:08.31 | many | thul: wtf, are you surfing DA all day? |
| 15:08.34 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r39 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: rework the query method slightly |
| 15:08.37 | SunTsu | many: "tell your teacher what a native german said" - most germans don't even know a bit of their own language, like writing "ei's" instead of "eis" |
| 15:08.54 | many | ice is yummy :P |
| 15:09.00 | Saroz | ckknight, wish there was a global way to set font face in PB4 :S |
| 15:09.36 | Saroz | oh, there is, that's bad UI right there :) |
| 15:09.38 | thul | many: you don't get my concept, portrait of the day is _my_ picture :-P always :-D |
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| 15:09.44 | thul | i do spend maybe 20-30 minutes each day surfing DA though |
| 15:09.45 | many | thul: haha |
| 15:10.02 | Bruners | thul: less male more female! |
| 15:10.02 | thul | http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/00945/_oslohaien_img38408_945288a.jpg <- cool image. cool eye |
| 15:10.03 | winkiller | so you do one portrait per day and claim it is the portrait of the day |
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| 15:10.10 | thul | Bruners: pfft, 95% of them are female. |
| 15:10.11 | winkiller | that's sneaky |
| 15:10.14 | many | btw |
| 15:10.15 | thul | winkiller: they are my portrait of the day? :-) |
| 15:10.19 | winkiller | yea |
| 15:10.23 | Bruners | thul: i still stand by my comment! |
| 15:10.24 | winkiller | how very sneaky of you |
| 15:10.39 | thul | haha, I'm a sneaky, sneaky rogue. |
| 15:10.59 | many | when looking that archievementorial or whats ever looked. can someone tell that guy that he should use a shaver before wearing tshirt like that |
| 15:11.05 | thul | or, I can't play anymore, the d.0.8 patch (3, not d) kills my machine :-( |
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| 15:11.12 | many | or whatever its called, i mean. |
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| 15:14.50 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r40 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: |
| 15:14.54 | Repo | actually remove the old query instead of having 2 queries... |
| 15:15.56 | thul | I hate creationists:( |
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| 15:17.21 | steev | don't hate the creationists, hate the creator :-P |
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| 15:18.41 | thul | haha |
| 15:23.47 | Fisker- | i hate cartoonists |
| 15:24.01 | thul | hwy? |
| 15:24.08 | thul | why not hate the cartoon? |
| 15:25.16 | Fisker- | dunno |
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| 15:27.37 | Bruners | i have a "friend" that truly believes in creationism |
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| 15:27.58 | thul | hmm, how is that possible? |
| 15:28.52 | Bruners | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.57 | many | you think: the ubergod creates us all!!!!!! |
| 15:29.05 | many | simpsons anyone? |
| 15:30.48 | Kaelten|away | g'morning |
| 15:30.59 | Bruners | morning Kaelten |
| 15:31.55 | Wobin | ~wowprogramming |
| 15:31.56 | purl | World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons ~ http://tinyurl.com/5hnxob ~ a book written by Cladhaire, Cogwheel and Kaelten, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 15:32.45 | Kaelten | :P |
| 15:33.26 | winkiller | wow, and the book website actually looks decent |
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| 15:35.38 | SunTsu | Bruners: So, you don't believe in the great Flying Spaghetti Monster? How dare you? |
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| 15:38.16 | ckknight | thul: doesn't seem very breakfasty to me |
| 15:38.18 | ckknight | thul: good portrait, though |
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| 15:38.21 | Bruners | SunTsu: i see no reason to believe that anything made us on purpose |
| 15:39.06 | onaforeignshore | Bruners: so we were an accident then? :p |
| 15:39.31 | thul | ckknight: hehe, it is his breakfast :-P |
| 15:39.45 | ckknight | thul: yea, I figure, it just doesn't seem too breakfasty |
| 15:40.06 | ckknight | the glint of light in his eyes is kinda cool, though |
| 15:40.24 | SunTsu | onaforeignshore: No, it's all part of the FSM's plan, we are hatching HIS children in kitchens all over the world |
| 15:40.47 | thul | ckknight: mhm, it was great light by the window :-) |
| 15:41.21 | Repo | 10instance-maps: 03Arrowmaster * r54 Data/mapdata.lua: Regenerate instance maps for 3.0.8 |
| 15:44.46 | Bruners | onaforeignshore: more or less an accident yes, but still nobody that made us |
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| 15:45.30 | Groktar | imo, for the next seasonal event we need a super buffed ragnaros |
| 15:45.31 | Megalon | onaforeignshore: all was made in the big bang, when the flying spaghetti smashed russels teapon on the invisible pink unicorns head |
| 15:45.46 | Fisker- | E: |
| 15:45.59 | Fisker- | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.14 | Groktar | one creepy smile |
| 15:46.29 | pentium166 | well, the fire festival had mini-ragnaros..es |
| 15:46.33 | Bruners | where shouldi post bug reports for tekkub ? |
| 15:46.36 | pentium166 | or whatever it was |
| 15:46.42 | Arrowmaster | Bruners: googlecode |
| 15:46.45 | Groktar | i was thinking a ragnaros with 8 million hp |
| 15:46.53 | onaforeignshore | @project tekticles |
| 15:46.54 | Groktar | that hits for 9k |
| 15:46.54 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/projects/tekticles/. tekticles. Game: WoW. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Updated: 62 days ago |
| 15:47.13 | pentium166 | and stands four times the height of normal ragnaros, causing fire damage if you stand inside him |
| 15:47.20 | pentium166 | in the middle of a city. |
| 15:47.35 | Groktar | hehe |
| 15:47.36 | Groktar | that would be pro |
| 15:47.49 | Groktar | i was thinking make us go to mc and have a special npc there to summon him |
| 15:49.06 | pentium166 | he should also have an animation for smiting executus with his hammer |
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| 15:55.36 | Natherul | anyone have any idea on why fubar is no longer working as it should and when its gonna be fixed? |
| 15:55.47 | Arrowmaster | fubar works fine |
| 15:55.54 | Cheads | working fine here too |
| 15:56.09 | Natherul | ok, i cant have it on as then it laggs awfully |
| 15:56.10 | Arrowmaster | install librock-1.0 |
| 15:56.28 | Natherul | ah, will that fic it Arrowmaster? |
| 15:56.35 | Arrowmaster | it might |
| 15:56.54 | Natherul | i've had the problem ever since the latest patch (the small one) |
| 15:57.13 | steev | Natherul: a friend also had the issue, but it was a cart update that broke it (somehow) |
| 15:57.24 | Arrowmaster | because rock is broken |
| 15:57.30 | Repo | 10simple-range-indicator: 03Elsia * r3 / (6 files in 1 directory): SimpleRangeIndicator: |
| 15:57.33 | Repo | - Fixing up everything hopefully. Initial commit on the new WowAce repo. |
| 15:57.35 | Natherul | cart update? |
| 15:57.46 | steev | cartogarphy |
| 15:57.48 | steev | bah |
| 15:57.49 | steev | wahtever |
| 15:57.55 | steev | fail. ignore me |
| 15:58.10 | Natherul | that addon messed fubar up? or they just dont wanna play together? |
| 15:58.18 | steev | they weren't playing together |
| 15:58.39 | Natherul | ah, give them a sticker saying: "dont play well with others" |
| 15:59.27 | steev | saw an awesome guild name the other day on Sen'jin (US) - <Second Hand Stupidity> |
| 16:00.21 | onaforeignshore | and they say you can't buy stupidity... :p |
| 16:01.08 | jaeger | I chuckle every time I see them |
| 16:01.12 | jaeger | worth every silver |
| 16:01.24 | steev | at least its not <Premonition> :-P |
| 16:01.31 | steev | or whatever, who i haven't actually seen |
| 16:01.59 | jaeger | yeah, that's the one from alleria |
| 16:02.14 | Groktar | they probably clear all the content in 5 hours and don't log on again until the next tuesday |
| 16:02.27 | Repo | 10fubar: 03Arrowmaster * r18 .pkgmeta: |
| 16:02.30 | Repo | Add LibRock-1.0 to .pkgmeta required-dependencies to attempt to get the CurseClient to install it to work around its broken upgrading |
| 16:04.13 | Repo | 10fubar: 03Arrowmaster 04v3.5.7 * r19 : Tagging as v3.5.7 |
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| 16:07.19 | Natherul | bah my wow is still lagging like crazy and i downloaded the librock thing, what shall i do? shall i reinstall some addon? |
| 16:07.52 | Gngsk | purchase a new computer and help out your local economy by buying it from a mom and pop shop |
| 16:07.54 | Arrowmaster | are you sure its fubar? |
| 16:08.07 | Natherul | well its not lagging when i disable fubar |
| 16:08.15 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 044.6.153-release * r153 : Tagging as 4.6.153-release |
| 16:08.19 | Arrowmaster | try disabling all fubar plugins but not fubar |
| 16:08.30 | Natherul | ok, give me a sec and we'll see |
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| 16:09.22 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.6.154-release * r154 : Tagging as 2.6.154-release |
| 16:09.34 | Repo | 10mini-pet: 03LordFarlander 044.6.165-beta * r165 : Tagging as 4.6.165-beta |
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| 16:10.02 | Fisker- | a challenger appears |
| 16:10.03 | Repo | 10simple-range-indicator: 03Elsia * r4 : SimpleRangeIndicator: |
| 16:10.06 | Repo | - Fix up svn externals. |
| 16:10.11 | Repo | 10coconuts: 03LordFarlander 042.6.155-beta * r155 : Tagging as 2.6.155-beta |
| 16:10.25 | Torhal | ... |
| 16:10.38 | Torhal | Tag release, then tag beta 30 seconds later for the same addon? |
| 16:10.42 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 16:11.27 | Natherul | it still laggs arrow |
| 16:11.32 | Arrowmaster | no clue then |
| 16:12.05 | Natherul | steev: did your friend solve his issue? did he reinstall carto or? |
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| 16:12.14 | Saroz | Both Bindings in 1 MC run, winner |
| 16:12.17 | steev | Natherul: honestly, i don't recall |
| 16:12.29 | Bruners | Torhal: more like 2x release then beta :P |
| 16:13.37 | nevcairiel | he deleted the release files |
| 16:13.42 | nevcairiel | maybe he didnt want release |
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| 16:14.43 | onaforeignshore | I installed all the #@no-lib-strip@ as standalone versions before fubar worked correctly on my system (FuBar.toc) |
| 16:16.22 | Natherul | i got it to work now, i reinstalled all fubar and all cartographer addons i had |
| 16:16.50 | Repo | 10in-combat-indicator: 03Elsia * r3 / (5 files in 1 directory): InCombatIndicator: |
| 16:16.53 | Repo | - Initial commit into new repo. |
| 16:19.19 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14697302417&sid=#6 |
| 16:19.32 | Repo | 10in-combat-indicator: 03Elsia * r4 InCombatIndicator.toc: InCombatIndicator: |
| 16:19.32 | Arrowmaster | 'I mean, with enough morphine in you, you can jog on a broken leg, but in the end you're only doing more damage. ' |
| 16:19.34 | Arrowmaster | i loled |
| 16:19.36 | Repo | - version fix. |
| 16:21.19 | Repo | 10in-combat-indicator: 03Elsia * r5 .pkgmeta: InCombatIndicator: |
| 16:21.19 | Repo | - Fix package-as. |
| 16:21.19 | Arrowmaster | Natherul: whats your ui memory usage at? |
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| 16:23.23 | Arrowmaster | if youve got a lot of addons it could be a combination factor causing problems to fubar |
| 16:23.40 | Arrowmaster | now i must go remove snow from my car |
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| 16:28.08 | Repo | 10in-combat-indicator: 03Elsia * r6 InCombatIndicator.toc: InCombatIndicator: |
| 16:28.11 | Repo | - Fix up for embed stripping (eww). |
| 16:31.09 | Fisker- | I wonder if people even know WoW has camera angles |
| 16:31.24 | Shot` | WoW has camera angles? :o |
| 16:31.35 | Shot` | (Someone had to say it) |
| 16:31.51 | steev | what's WoW? |
| 16:32.03 | Bruners | World of Warcraft maby |
| 16:32.15 | Arrowmaster | whats a camera angle? |
| 16:32.25 | Repo | 10battle-objectives-mover: 03Elsia * r3 / (5 files in 1 directory): BattleObjectivesMover: |
| 16:32.28 | Repo | - Initial commit. |
| 16:33.02 | Fisker- | free camera view then Shot` |
| 16:33.55 | Cheads | Arrowmaster your fubar change makes CC install LibRock as a seperate addon even when you have selected that they should be embedded(if that makes sense) |
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| 16:34.04 | Arrowmaster | Cheads: i know |
| 16:34.07 | Arrowmaster | thats the point |
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| 16:34.14 | Natherul | Arrowmaster: it was not a memory issue since after reinstalling all fubar and cartographer addons i now have it all running agian with no lagg |
| 16:34.40 | Repo | 10battle-objectives-mover: 03Elsia * r4 BattleObjectivesMover.toc: BattleObjectivesMover: |
| 16:34.43 | Repo | - Touching to get a package. |
| 16:34.53 | Cheads | hmm I already have librock in Fubar's libs directory |
| 16:35.06 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Whitetooth * r27 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - Added Buff: Replenishment |
| 16:35.25 | Arrowmaster | dont really care |
| 16:35.29 | Repo | 10battle-objectives-mover: 03Elsia 043.0.8a release * r5 : Tagging as 3.0.8a release |
| 16:35.54 | Repo | 10in-combat-indicator: 03Elsia 043.0.8a release * r7 : Tagging as 3.0.8a release |
| 16:36.12 | Repo | 10simple-range-indicator: 03Elsia 043.0.8a release * r5 : Tagging as 3.0.8a release |
| 16:36.19 | Repo | 10librock-1-0: 03Arrowmaster 04WoW-3.0-release-3 * r296 : Tagging as WoW-3.0-release-3 |
| 16:38.24 | Cheads | Arrowmaster but what's the point of installing it as an external and also having it in the Libs dir(trying to understand..) |
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| 16:38.57 | Arrowmaster | Cheads: because not everybody uses the curse client |
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| 16:40.20 | Repo | 10rating-buster: 03Whitetooth * r205 / (2 files in 1 directory): - Support for 3.0.8 bonus armor changes |
| 16:40.23 | Repo | - Stat Breakdown: Fixed Parry from Strength not showing when values are < 0.5% |
| 16:40.28 | Nechckn | Arrowmaster blasphemer |
| 16:40.28 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith * r16 / (3 files in 1 directory): GridStatusShield: |
| 16:40.31 | Repo | - corrected PowerWord:Shield calculation for 3.08 |
| 16:40.34 | Repo | - fixed a bug with unknown ranks of shields |
| 16:40.37 | Repo | - increased max aegis tolerance to 2sec |
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| 16:41.33 | Cheads | Arrowmaster and if you download fubar manually from curse you will only get the librock in your Libs dir |
| 16:41.46 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 16:42.01 | Repo | 10gsshield: 03Julith 04v0.45 * r17 : Tagging as v0.45 |
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| 16:42.22 | Cheads | so what's the point of getting it twice when you use the curse client ? |
| 16:42.29 | Arrowmaster | because its broken |
| 16:42.33 | Cheads | ok |
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| 16:43.40 | Cheads | curse client or the librock in libs ? |
| 16:43.50 | Arrowmaster | librock in general |
| 16:44.06 | Cheads | ah point taken, thanks |
| 16:46.44 | SunTsu | ckknight: When are you going to port fubar to ldb? *ducks and runs away* |
| 16:46.49 | Arrowmaster | never |
| 16:46.54 | ckknight | I might one day |
| 16:47.08 | Arrowmaster | it will have to be a complete rewrite |
| 16:47.08 | ckknight | but frankly, I don't have much free time anymore |
| 16:47.15 | ckknight | not that I'm against that, Arrowmaster |
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| 16:49.33 | Natherul | might i inquire what ldb is? (feeling newbish) |
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| 16:51.20 | Arrowmaster | ~ldb |
| 16:51.21 | purl | rumour has it, ldb is a WoW Library - A central registry for addons looking for something to display their data. http://github.com/tekkub/libdatabroker-1-1/tree/master |
| 16:51.25 | Repo | 10inventory-on-par: 03Pericles 04v12.06 * r101 : InventoryOnPar: - |
| 16:51.28 | Repo | Release to Curse.com |
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| 16:51.48 | Bruners | isnt fubar working with fubartobroker anyway? |
| 16:51.59 | Bruners | or broker2fubar what ever they are called |
| 16:52.42 | Arrowmaster | broker2fubar |
| 16:53.03 | Arrowmaster | its also been listed as an optdep in the .pkgmeta so it should be installed automaticly by the client |
| 16:53.28 | Bruners | then what is the problem then ? |
| 16:54.07 | Repo | 10recountthreat: 03Elsia * r34 Threat_Mode.lua: RecountThreat: |
| 16:54.10 | Repo | - Removing some debug prints. |
| 16:54.28 | Arrowmaster | none as far as i care |
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| 16:59.33 | SunTsu | Bruners: I don't have any problem, it's just that I really like the ways fubar works and like to preserve and use it. I just don't like it having librock and such lying around anymore |
| 16:59.55 | SunTsu | Bruners: I still use it with broker2fubar |
| 17:00.41 | Bruners | so the issue is not porting it to ldb but to something else than librock |
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| 17:02.16 | SunTsu | Bruners: Yeah, and sort of integrating broker2fubar |
| 17:02.31 | Kaaosa | Oh hi |
| 17:02.46 | Arrowmaster | the only way to integrate broker2fubar is to rewrite broker2fubar in rock |
| 17:03.23 | Xinhuan | why it isn't written in rock in the first place is beyond me |
| 17:03.39 | Arrowmaster | because nobody wants to use rock |
| 17:04.10 | Xinhuan | writing an ace3 extension for a rock addon sounds silly |
| 17:04.58 | Bruners | is rock that bad? |
| 17:06.52 | quiescens | oo |
| 17:06.57 | quiescens | o.o |
| 17:07.13 | Kaaosa | o . o |
| 17:07.14 | SunTsu | Bruners: I'm no coder, but from what I've read it's some "pimped up" ace2 variant, created prior to ace3, which could supersede it |
| 17:07.29 | Kaaosa | pimped up, eh? |
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| 17:07.49 | Kaaosa | I do like my code pimped. |
| 17:08.56 | ckknight | waves |
| 17:09.11 | Torhal | ckknight: Pimp my code. |
| 17:09.14 | Torhal | Heh |
| 17:09.22 | ckknight | Rock was mostly a political failure, code-wise it was good for its time, but I've left it unmaintained |
| 17:12.28 | Arrowmaster | its still got completely broken upgrade path |
| 17:12.32 | Kaaosa | Hm, a friend recommended SilverDragon to me to help me hunt the Time-Lost Proto Drake, but I really don't see how this is going to help me find it >_> |
| 17:13.01 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: PB4 is cool so far, but I have one question... Party = Raid in the current setup... what if I want Raid and Party layouts to be different? |
| 17:13.10 | Bruners | what silverdragon does or did at least is to announce if it sees any rare mobs |
| 17:13.20 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: raid support's not in yet |
| 17:13.25 | Kaaosa | Oh. Well I have a loud annoying macro for that |
| 17:13.31 | Kaaosa | So I guess it's just redundant |
| 17:13.42 | Bruners | you have to click that macro |
| 17:13.44 | quiescens | I just hide the party whenever I'm in a raid group~ |
| 17:13.45 | quiescens | lol |
| 17:13.48 | Kaaosa | No I don't :v |
| 17:13.57 | Kaaosa | I have a G15 keyboard. It clicks the macro for me |
| 17:14.03 | Kaaosa | I just fly around aimlessly |
| 17:14.16 | quiescens | flying around aimlessly is always fun |
| 17:14.37 | Kaaosa | After 5 hours it loses some of its charm. |
| 17:15.04 | Bruners | took me 1 hour to find it :P |
| 17:15.10 | Kaaosa | I hate you D: |
| 17:15.33 | Kaaosa | I've killed Vyragosa and Dirkee twice each over 3 days |
| 17:15.36 | Bruners | or i found it 1 hour after i logged in, didnt spend that much time looking |
| 17:15.40 | Kaaosa | Still haven't seen that dragon |
| 17:15.46 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: why can't text go in the same location options as indicators, eg. edge, bottom-left... |
| 17:16.18 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: hmm, it should, probably a bug |
| 17:16.29 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: set attach to unit frame |
| 17:16.31 | ckknight | instead of bar |
| 17:17.08 | onaforeignshore | my mistake then :) |
| 17:18.06 | Kaaosa | PitBull4 you say.. |
| 17:18.18 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: I bet you hate the portrait though? if I put it in "Blank Space" I'd like to set it at 100% width and only be able to see that slice of the portrait, not all of it... can send you a pic if that's easier to understand |
| 17:18.20 | ckknight | it's not released yet |
| 17:18.31 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: that's possible |
| 17:18.36 | Kaaosa | That's never stopped me before :V |
| 17:18.42 | ckknight | @project pitbull4 |
| 17:18.44 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author), vangual (Author). Updated: 8 hours ago. Tickets: 69/183 |
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| 17:19.18 | Kaaosa | I'd rather use something half-done that I can make look like what I'm used to than keep trying to get used to Xperl |
| 17:21.08 | Arrowmaster | lol at the tickets |
| 17:21.11 | Arrowmaster | thats a lot |
| 17:21.22 | Hjalte | sylvanaar: Ping |
| 17:22.08 | Bruners | Arrowmaster: most of them are enhancement and not defects tho |
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| 17:26.05 | Hirsute | What exactly triggers purl's announcement of "Dry-code incoming!!"? |
| 17:26.19 | SunTsu | Ackis [n=asdf@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ARL/Troll/Ackis] has joined #wowace |
| 17:26.27 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 17:27.02 | SunTsu | the uncrowned king of dry code :) |
| 17:28.31 | Fisker- | http://i43.tinypic.com/24cz8fb.jpg <-stupid sewer rats |
| 17:29.31 | pb_ee1 | Nice graphics |
| 17:29.49 | Repo | 10postal: 03Xinhuan * r225 Modules/Express.lua: |
| 17:29.52 | Repo | Fix OnTooltipSetItem hook calling the original function twice. |
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| 17:30.55 | Fisker- | how was jail Kirkburn ? |
| 17:31.05 | quiescens | overrated |
| 17:31.12 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: doesn't work |
| 17:31.21 | Kirkburn | Not enough soap? |
| 17:31.23 | ckknight | you're not believing in yourself hard enough |
| 17:31.33 | ckknight | jail? |
| 17:31.54 | Kaaosa | Hm, I need to remember my dogtag sequences now >_> |
| 17:31.56 | Fisker- | You're storing mental pictures of extreme porn on my mental harddrive Kirkburn |
| 17:31.59 | Fisker- | in b4 jail |
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| 17:32.55 | Kirkburn | Fisker-, I am so glad |
| 17:32.58 | Paene | Anyone know offhand if there's an opera equivalent of -moz-border-radius for CSS? |
| 17:33.23 | durcyn | browser-specific CSS? christ. |
| 17:33.36 | Paene | well |
| 17:33.45 | Paene | border-radius is part of CSS3 |
| 17:33.52 | Paene | which isn't finished |
| 17:34.11 | Paene | the only other (albeit annoying) way is to use JS or images |
| 17:34.31 | Kirkburn | imagines a large lady singing "-moz-border-radius for CSS" very loudly on a big stage. Cause, uh, opera... |
| 17:35.04 | Fisker- | try -o-border-radius? :P |
| 17:35.53 | Paene | does that work again? I read that it was taken out |
| 17:36.05 | onaforeignshore | if in doubt, test your browser at http://www.css3.info/selectors-test/test.html |
| 17:36.20 | Fisker- | Why would they call it anything else Paene ? |
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| 17:37.17 | onaforeignshore | http://www.css3.info/preview/ will tell you which of the other CSS3 stuff has been implemented |
| 17:39.49 | Paene | onaforeignshore: yeah I already saw a lot of that, I know Opera doesn't support the CSS3 version of border-radius. I was looking for their browser specific implementation. From what I can tell, it used to be supported, but then got pulled. I guess I'll just make a test site real quick. |
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| 17:40.12 | Xinhuan | ckknight, is it possible some operating systems are not treating "blah blah\ |
| 17:40.17 | Xinhuan | continue on next line" strings |
| 17:40.20 | Zhinjio | g'morning, folks. |
| 17:40.21 | Xinhuan | as working? |
| 17:40.36 | ckknight | Xinhuan: no, but it'll act like \r\n, not \n |
| 17:40.39 | ckknight | is that your issue? |
| 17:40.48 | Xinhuan | well i have such a string in my addon |
| 17:40.49 | ckknight | you're specifying \n instead of \r\n? |
| 17:40.57 | nevcairiel | ckknight |
| 17:40.58 | nevcairiel | [2009/01/30 12:56:06-710-x1]: GatherMate-1.0.12\Locales\GatherMate-enUS.lua:94: unfinished string near '" |
| 17:40.58 | nevcairiel | ': |
| 17:41.00 | Xinhuan | nah i'm just specifying \ as the last char on the line |
| 17:41.01 | nevcairiel | thats our issue :P |
| 17:41.14 | ckknight | hmm |
| 17:41.16 | nevcairiel | its a multi-line string filled from the locale app table |
| 17:41.17 | Xinhuan | Message: ..\AddOns\Postal\Localization.lua line 52: |
| 17:41.17 | Xinhuan | unfinished string near '"|cFFFFCC00*|r Selected mail will be batch opened or returned to sender by clicking Open or Return. |
| 17:41.31 | nevcairiel | it works fine on my windows and kagaro's mac |
| 17:41.36 | ckknight | link me the zip? |
| 17:41.39 | nevcairiel | but some dude with a windows receives the error |
| 17:41.45 | Xinhuan | it works fine for me too |
| 17:41.53 | Xinhuan | but someone using postal is reporting unfinished string |
| 17:42.04 | nevcairiel | http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/327/34/GatherMate-v1.0.12.zip |
| 17:42.06 | nevcairiel | ckknight ^ |
| 17:42.13 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/postal/files/520-v3-1beta/ |
| 17:42.15 | Xinhuan | ckknight ^ |
| 17:42.19 | nevcairiel | the files have windows line endings |
| 17:42.26 | Xinhuan | or |
| 17:42.26 | Xinhuan | http://static.wowace.com/uploads/18/327/681/Postal-v3.1beta.zip |
| 17:42.47 | steev | Kaelten: tooltips don't seem to match up |
| 17:42.56 | Kaelten | ? |
| 17:43.10 | ckknight | hmm |
| 17:43.12 | Xinhuan | this is the contents of my file: http://paste.wowace.com/227/ |
| 17:43.14 | ckknight | odd, nevcairiel |
| 17:43.14 | steev | refresh addon list |
| 17:43.20 | steev | do a search for tek |
| 17:43.30 | nevcairiel | well it works fine here, but somehow it doesnt work for that guy on the forums |
| 17:43.34 | nevcairiel | and he gets a syntax error |
| 17:43.39 | Xinhuan | yeah same thing |
| 17:43.41 | steev | mouse over tekticles, and it will say Rewatch in the tooltip |
| 17:43.53 | steev | which isn't the search result |
| 17:44.03 | steev | imo, wx bug, but *shrug* thought i'd throw it out there |
| 17:44.09 | Xinhuan | its choking on the first multi-line string as unterminated |
| 17:46.26 | Xinhuan | not quite sure why it would work for some computers but not on others |
| 17:46.50 | Pneumatus | Xinhuan: the new beta of postal seems to be playing nice, but what's the purpose of the numbers over the checkboxes for each mail item? |
| 17:46.55 | *** part/#wowace Paene (n=Jim@71-13-209-132.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 17:46.56 | Shot` | is there a solid white texture in wow's ui? |
| 17:47.05 | Shot` | just plain solid opaque white |
| 17:47.06 | Xinhuan | there isn't any real purpose to it Pneumatus |
| 17:47.06 | ckknight | nevcairiel: so you think I should keep the \ newline way or should I switch it to \n or something? |
| 17:47.08 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 17:47.17 | nevcairiel | I dunno |
| 17:47.21 | nevcairiel | i dont know whats causing it |
| 17:47.23 | Xinhuan | dunno ckknight |
| 17:47.26 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/postal/localization/phrases/56-cffffcc00-r-selected-mail-will-be-batch-opened-or-returned/ |
| 17:47.28 | nevcairiel | maybe [[ ]] |
| 17:47.29 | Xinhuan | that looks fine right? |
| 17:47.34 | nevcairiel | that worked before and never caused issues |
| 17:47.51 | ckknight | nevcairiel: hmm... |
| 17:48.11 | Xinhuan | that would need a bit of extra tweaking |
| 17:48.17 | kenlyric | does skillet still work? |
| 17:48.18 | nevcairiel | except you need to unescape everything, and check for embeded version of it |
| 17:48.19 | Xinhuan | since it would be like L[[[blah]]] |
| 17:48.23 | ckknight | nevcairiel: there could be issues if you specify escaping |
| 17:48.31 | ckknight | Xinhuan: L[ [[blah]] ] |
| 17:48.33 | nevcairiel | hm true |
| 17:48.35 | ckknight | or L[ [=[blah]=] ] |
| 17:48.38 | Xinhuan | ya, ugly ;p |
| 17:48.40 | ckknight | no biggie there |
| 17:48.44 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 17:49.15 | nevcairiel | you could convert it to one-line with \n in there |
| 17:49.18 | Xinhuan | could different unzipping software be unzipping the text files differently? |
| 17:49.35 | nevcairiel | it shouldnt happen how ugly it looks |
| 17:49.41 | nevcairiel | s/happen/matter/ |
| 17:50.53 | Shot` | I never realised that WoW had so many warnings relating to it in Korea |
| 17:51.36 | Shot` | the UI contains images for ratings icons for: age 15+, drugs, fear, "suggestive" (sex etc), verbal, and violence |
| 17:51.49 | Shot` | Caution, game contains fear! |
| 17:52.03 | Shot` | Caution, game contains fictional drug usage! |
| 18:02.18 | kenlyric | the game does contain fear |
| 18:03.20 | Zhinjio | Ackis: ping |
| 18:03.23 | ckknight | fears kenlyric |
| 18:03.45 | Xinhuan | so ckknight, what solution should i use for the unterminated string errors some ppl are getting? |
| 18:04.33 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I'm not sure, I think I'm gonna turn it into [=[ ]=] if escape_non_ascii = false (default) and a newline is detected. |
| 18:06.13 | Xinhuan | see if you can get the change live soonish or something hehe |
| 18:07.05 | Xinhuan | if escape_non_ascii is true, shouldn't \n be used instead anyhow? |
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| 18:09.27 | nevcairiel | \n is ascii :) |
| 18:09.59 | onaforeignshore | that would be \\n :p |
| 18:11.54 | Repo | 10simple-range-indicator: 03Elsia * r6 embeds.xml: SimpleRangeIndicator: |
| 18:11.57 | Repo | - Fix path to LibRangeCheck-2.0 |
| 18:12.33 | Xinhuan | well i think we need a working solution before the day has passed nevcairiel... |
| 18:12.34 | Repo | 10simple-range-indicator: 03Elsia 043.0.8b release * r7 : Tagging as 3.0.8b release |
| 18:13.25 | quiescens | stabs xinhuan with a pillow. |
| 18:15.36 | ckknight | Xinhuan: I'll do it after lunch |
| 18:15.50 | Xinhuan | ok, i'll stay up hehe |
| 18:17.18 | Fisker- | i did damage |
| 18:17.19 | Fisker- | like zomg |
| 18:19.39 | Hjalte | What the heck. My combat log just "stopped". |
| 18:20.09 | Hjalte | MSBT and Recount also both stopped showing me any data. |
| 18:20.18 | Hjalte | And some mobs are seen as "unknown" |
| 18:20.34 | Hjalte | Is this connection issues or addon issues? |
| 18:20.37 | ArrowmasterClass | restart wow |
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| 18:21.28 | Repo | 10engulf: 03durcyn 07master * 67e505c / (3 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] initial commit |
| 18:21.34 | Fisker- | have had the same issue Hjalte |
| 18:21.43 | Fisker- | relogging solved it |
| 18:22.09 | Pneumatus | i wonder how many stacks of tenacity alliance get if they go to wintergrasp on eu-magtheridon |
| 18:22.43 | ckknight | hey Xinhuan |
| 18:22.45 | ckknight | ...I did it |
| 18:23.05 | Xinhuan | so i just need to retag, or fake commit to test it yes? |
| 18:24.19 | nevcairiel | do a fake commit first :P |
| 18:24.28 | ckknight | fake commit, definitely |
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| 18:24.36 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:25.13 | NeoTron | @describe engulf |
| 18:25.15 | Repo | NeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/projects/engulf/. Engulf. Engulf is a simple timer addon to display your Engulf in Flames debuff duration during the Malygos encounter. |
| 18:25.37 | NeoTron | @describe malygoshelper |
| 18:25.38 | Repo | NeoTron: No project found that matches 'malygoshelper' |
| 18:25.44 | NeoTron | @describe malygos-helper |
| 18:25.46 | Repo | NeoTron: http://www.wowace.com/projects/malygos-helper/. MalygosHelper. Malygos Helper is quite simply a small mod to monitor the dot stacking, combos and damage of everyone in the raid during phase 3 of the Malygos encounter. I'll do some screenshots next time we run... |
| 18:25.46 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Nevcairiel * r651 GatherMate.toc: Update toc for fixed locale release, also test new package |
| 18:26.12 | ulic | variety is the spice of life? |
| 18:26.35 | NeoTron | seems like MalygosHelper = raid monitoring, engulf = personal |
| 18:26.37 | NeoTron | ? |
| 18:26.44 | Industrial | meh |
| 18:26.50 | Industrial | why would you need a monitor |
| 18:26.52 | Industrial | just spam |
| 18:26.59 | Industrial | it will hit 15 stacks anyway unless you suck |
| 18:27.00 | Industrial | :p |
| 18:27.09 | nevcairiel | ckknight: no worky |
| 18:27.09 | Repo | 10engulf: 03durcyn 07master * 1.0-release-1-g889b98a Engulf.toc: [+1 commit] add no-libs-strip |
| 18:27.14 | ckknight | nevcairiel: how so? |
| 18:27.24 | nevcairiel | its still the same as before |
| 18:27.45 | durcyn | Industrial: someone asked me for a timer, figured i'd submit it for public ridicule while i was at it. |
| 18:27.56 | Industrial | durcyn: k |
| 18:28.14 | nevcairiel | still the \ version |
| 18:28.30 | NeoTron | Industrial: 15 stacks is pretty low but.. yeah :P |
| 18:28.39 | nevcairiel | ckknight: we only have the multi-line in the value, not in the key, if that matters |
| 18:28.50 | NeoTron | main problem is people have a hard time keeping it up for some reason |
| 18:28.51 | ckknight | nevcairiel: hmm |
| 18:30.12 | nevcairiel | ckknight: on the web export it seems fine, however the generated file does not seem to be |
| 18:30.21 | ckknight | odd |
| 18:30.26 | Repo | 10postal: 03Xinhuan * r226 Postal.toc: Null commit that does nothing (to force a zip repackage). |
| 18:30.41 | Xinhuan | lets check that zip |
| 18:30.46 | nevcairiel | i did :p |
| 18:31.39 | nevcairiel | that reminds me to run babble |
| 18:32.10 | ckknight | nevcairiel: okay, so it didn't change anything, no [=[ stuff? |
| 18:32.16 | nevcairiel | right |
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| 18:32.45 | ckknight | oh, lol |
| 18:32.46 | ckknight | my bad |
| 18:33.17 | Xinhuan | the number of bytes increased |
| 18:33.38 | Xinhuan | nvm |
| 18:33.46 | Xinhuan | it increased due to updated localization |
| 18:33.51 | Xinhuan | people have been updating it lol |
| 18:34.00 | NeoTron | oh another feature in GoldenTicket would be to optionally store information about tickets from other characters in the tooltip |
| 18:34.07 | ckknight | okay, it should be fixed |
| 18:34.12 | ckknight | updated the wrong directory |
| 18:34.13 | NeoTron | useful if you tend to forget which character you submitted ticket(s) with |
| 18:34.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan, nevcairiel, should be good now |
| 18:34.28 | ckknight | sorry |
| 18:34.57 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Nevcairiel * r652 LICENSE.txt: Another pokey |
| 18:37.05 | Repo | 10postal: 03Xinhuan * r227 Postal.lua: Another null commit to repackage the localization. |
| 18:38.28 | nevcairiel | works fine |
| 18:39.07 | Xinhuan | tested in game, works fine |
| 18:39.13 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Nevcairiel 04v1.0.13 * r653 : Tagging as v1.0.13 |
| 18:39.18 | Xinhuan | the unlocalized ones |
| 18:39.21 | Xinhuan | look like this |
| 18:39.22 | Xinhuan | --[==[ L[ [=[|cFFFFCC00*|r Selected mail will be batch opened or returned to sender by clicking Open or Return. |
| 18:39.38 | nevcairiel | yeah its smart and does proper multilien comments =P |
| 18:39.54 | Xinhuan | blah blah |
| 18:39.55 | Xinhuan | .]=] ]==] |
| 18:39.56 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 18:40.16 | Xinhuan | i'm surprised notepad++ highlighted the comments properly |
| 18:40.39 | Repo | 10libbabble-boss-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r171 LibBabble-Boss-3.0.lua: |
| 18:40.42 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 18:40.47 | Repo | 10libbabble-inventory-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r75 LibBabble-Inventory-3.0.lua: |
| 18:40.50 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 18:40.56 | Repo | 10libbabble-faction-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r81 LibBabble-Faction-3.0.lua: |
| 18:40.58 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 18:41.04 | Repo | 10libbabble-zone-3-0: 03Nevcairiel * r183 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 18:41.07 | Repo | Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
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| 18:44.19 | Saroz | now all we need is Parrot to become Ace3 |
| 18:44.42 | Xinhuan | now all we need is Parrot to become Ace3 |
| 18:44.54 | Saroz | :) |
| 18:45.00 | Repo | 10zzml: 03Turaka * r19 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 18:45.03 | Repo | * Changed aggro method to the PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED so that also casters can use the addon easyer. |
| 18:45.08 | nevcairiel | msbt > parrot |
| 18:45.10 | nevcairiel | imho |
| 18:45.17 | kenlyric | indeed |
| 18:45.18 | Saroz | nah |
| 18:45.20 | Saroz | didnt like msbt |
| 18:45.21 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 18:45.22 | kenlyric | bads use parrot |
| 18:45.23 | steev | urho sucks |
| 18:45.25 | Saroz | the config is made of fail |
| 18:45.35 | Saroz | last I saw it anyway |
| 18:45.37 | Xinhuan | i'll be honest here, i currently use the blizzard one ;p |
| 18:45.51 | ArrowmasterClass | me too |
| 18:45.57 | Repo | 10zzml: 03Turaka 04v3.0 * r20 : * Updated aggro check |
| 18:46.01 | nevcairiel | i couldnt stand the blizzard one |
| 18:46.04 | nevcairiel | too much spam from hots |
| 18:46.13 | nevcairiel | <3 msbt hot throttling |
| 18:46.26 | NeoTron | I should upgrade MSBT and see if it stops spamming every time rune strike is triggered |
| 18:46.35 | NeoTron | rather than just when it wasn't on before :P |
| 18:46.35 | Xinhuan | im not a healer, so i guess its ok |
| 18:46.35 | Saroz | parrot has that too |
| 18:47.06 | steev | i just want them to fix combat log for when dropping dnd |
| 18:47.18 | steev | with lots of mobs in it |
| 18:47.31 | Saroz | think Parrot is the only shit I got running Rock atm |
| 18:47.34 | Saroz | wtb dead Rock |
| 18:48.34 | steev | wts pet Rock |
| 18:49.31 | onaforeignshore | msbt? |
| 18:50.02 | onaforeignshore | M? scrolling battle text ??? |
| 18:50.05 | Repo | 10mbb: 03Pericles * r45 MBB.xml: MBB:- |
| 18:50.08 | Repo | Change Strata from High to Medium |
| 18:50.19 | Pneumatus | Mikk's |
| 18:52.04 | Repo | 10mbb: 03Pericles * r46 MBB.lua: MBB:- |
| 18:52.07 | Repo | Change Strata from High to Medium |
| 18:52.48 | Repo | 10mbb: 03Pericles 04v0.63 * r47 : MBB:- |
| 18:52.51 | Repo | Release v0.63 to curse.com |
| 18:53.06 | NeoTron | I get annoyed at people that says that horde or alliance is more/less mature, has better pugging etc |
| 18:53.07 | Saroz | new ratingbuster wtf |
| 18:53.15 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 18:53.18 | Xinhuan | yes, ace3 too |
| 18:53.22 | NeoTron | there's no universal difference between factions |
| 18:53.22 | Saroz | WINNER |
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| 18:53.47 | NeoTron | there ar clearly server difference and on a particular server one faction can clearly be superior but alas |
| 18:53.49 | onaforeignshore | ty |
| 18:53.56 | steev | NeoTron: lies, horde are obviously better |
| 18:54.16 | steev | they don't have to take boats |
| 18:54.28 | sylvanaar | Hjalte hm? |
| 18:54.58 | Hjalte | sylvanaar: Failboat doesn't seem to like working with an external LibFail-1.0 |
| 18:54.59 | steev | they also have npcs that will say where the blimps are, versus standing there going wtf, wheres the boat |
| 18:57.47 | Hjalte | sylvanaar: I had to raid, so I got the version with LibFail included, but I did check that I had the most recent versions and that they weren't working. I can give you the error message later. |
| 18:59.09 | durcyn | sylvanaar: i've noticed similar behavior, FailBoat chokes on both LibFail and LibQTip when standalone. I didn't have time to debug, so I just added them both to required deps in the failboat toc |
| 19:00.23 | pentium166 | i was thinking back to the PTR for 3.0, when there was the bug that caused presence of mind to not get consumed on casting a spell |
| 19:00.43 | pentium166 | so battlegrounds were basically mages running around spamming instant pyroblasts |
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| 19:01.01 | pentium166 | and how similar that is to arcane now. |
| 19:03.38 | sylvanaar | Hjalte i dont know, i havent tried standalones |
| 19:04.34 | sylvanaar | theres no optdep for anything |
| 19:05.12 | Bruners | Xinhuan: shiny gold coins, me likes |
| 19:05.38 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 19:06.52 | Bruners | Xinhuan: oh, i was talking about postal and rake :P |
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| 19:10.43 | sylvanaar | Hjalte durcyn do you guys have the latest alpha or the beta? |
| 19:11.24 | durcyn | sylvanaar: i'm pulling from svn here |
| 19:12.21 | sylvanaar | LibFail isnt Load On Demand |
| 19:12.29 | durcyn | even with proper optdeps, LibFail and QTip still error out |
| 19:12.38 | durcyn | sink, lsm, etc are fine |
| 19:14.15 | Pneumatus | anyone know if you can make different rules in PassLoot for heroic raids vs normal raids? |
| 19:14.30 | Hjalte | sylvanaar: Alphas |
| 19:14.42 | Odlaw | pretty sure i added a filter for that pneumatus |
| 19:14.59 | Pneumatus | Odlaw: the only options i can see are for heroic/normal parties |
| 19:15.07 | Pneumatus | in the Zone Type module |
| 19:15.23 | Odlaw | oh |
| 19:15.31 | Odlaw | hrm.. i'll have to update that then |
| 19:15.44 | Pneumatus | as, in 10man raids i greed BoE greens, but in 25man i pass them :) |
| 19:15.49 | Odlaw | aye |
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| 19:15.59 | Pneumatus | atm i just switch the rule tick over but sometimes forget :P |
| 19:16.03 | Odlaw | np, i can update it |
| 19:16.04 | Repo | 10libfail-1-0: 03sylvanaar * r36 LibFail-1.0.toc: add LoadOnDemand: 1 |
| 19:16.08 | Pneumatus | cool :> |
| 19:16.44 | Pneumatus | <3 PassLoot btw, saves me so much hassle :) |
| 19:16.56 | Odlaw | :) |
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| 19:19.17 | Odlaw | there used to be a bug in Burning Crusade that it didn't get the heroic/normal thing right sometimes |
| 19:19.39 | Repo | 10failboat: 03sylvanaar * r45 FailBoat.toc: added libstub optdep and X-embeds. |
| 19:20.09 | Odlaw | I would go to a normal instance.. the wow API reports it as normal. Then I would change to heroic and zone in again. It would report as heroic. If I changed to normal and zoned in again, it would still report it as heroic. |
| 19:20.17 | Odlaw | something to do with the wow api. couldn't help it <shrug> |
| 19:20.29 | NeoTron | Odlaw: still exists afaik |
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| 19:20.36 | Odlaw | gr8 |
| 19:20.46 | NeoTron | I had the same issue in MagicMarker but I think I worked around it somehow - there's more than one API to get the information |
| 19:20.50 | Odlaw | i never figured out when it resets the info, or if. |
| 19:20.56 | gix | jeez, rawr is sometimes so annoying |
| 19:20.58 | Odlaw | hmm |
| 19:21.04 | Odlaw | if you remember, lemme know. :) |
| 19:21.10 | sylvanaar | rawr im huge |
| 19:21.41 | Fisker- | rawr i'm sylvanaar |
| 19:21.41 | Fisker- | irl |
| 19:21.45 | sylvanaar | rawr i have modules for every class and spec you arent |
| 19:21.56 | sylvanaar | rawr and im loadin em |
| 19:21.59 | NeoTron | if IsInInstance() and GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty() == 2 then => is heroic |
| 19:22.23 | sylvanaar | but its a cool program |
| 19:22.27 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen Parnic |
| 19:22.51 | purl | parnic is currently on #wowace (18h 36m 39s). Has said a total of 15 messages. Is idling for 18h 33m 29s, last said: 'so there is'. |
| 19:22.51 | Odlaw | k |
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| 19:23.09 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen Shadowed |
| 19:23.10 | purl | shadowed is currently on #wowuidev (3d 13h 45m) #wowace (3d 13h 45m), last said: 'unless you're EU'. |
| 19:23.26 | sylvanaar | ...FU |
| 19:23.28 | NeoTron | GetDefaultDungeonDifficulty is the one thAt doesn't work |
| 19:23.47 | Odlaw | you mean GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty() ? |
| 19:24.07 | Pneumatus | GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty() is 1 on normal and 2 on heroic afaik |
| 19:24.24 | NeoTron | Default doesn't return useful info |
| 19:24.47 | Odlaw | alright, I'll do some testing in a bit, kinda working on other things atm |
| 19:24.52 | NeoTron | it's the value of the "dropdown" but doesn't seem to be correct always, even as a leader. GetCurrentDungeonDifficulty returns the actual status of the dungeon you're in |
| 19:25.11 | NeoTron | I wonder what the intended "epic" difficulty is |
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| 19:28.00 | EthanCentaurai | Shadowed: ping! |
| 19:28.10 | Shadowed | mmm? |
| 19:28.46 | EthanCentaurai | are you still maintaining http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8324-PerfectRaidIncHeal.html? |
| 19:29.32 | Shadowed | enough to make it work, not enough that IÂ’m adding new features to it. |
| 19:31.22 | EthanCentaurai | right... just curious as the LibHealComm-3.0 embed is quite old |
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| 19:38.47 | Shadowed | itÂ’ll be updated/pushed to WoWI in a second |
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| 19:45.41 | Repo | 10project-13969: 03gastroneunzehn * r64 / (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_MicroMenuFu: |
| 19:45.44 | Repo | - |
| 19:46.10 | ArrowmasterClass | ....... |
| 19:46.27 | Repo | 10project-13969: 03gastroneunzehn * r65 Images (3 files in 1 directory): FuBar_MicroMenuFu: |
| 19:46.30 | Repo | - |
| 19:51.06 | Xinhuan | rofl |
| 19:51.12 | ArrowmasterClass | well nobody has showed up on irc bitching yet |
| 19:51.17 | Dark_Elf | slaps gastroneunzehn with broker |
| 19:51.32 | ArrowmasterClass | blank commits from somebody that ackis added to a project = me locking project and removing person |
| 19:51.58 | Xinhuan | hey Ackis |
| 19:52.06 | Xinhuan | maybe you should stop adding people to projects! |
| 19:52.14 | ArrowmasterClass | that person was added back in october |
| 19:52.23 | ArrowmasterClass | and never made a single commit until now |
| 19:52.31 | ArrowmasterClass | gone now |
| 20:00.39 | Hell-Razor | anybody here use WUU for linux? |
| 20:00.40 | ulic | @describe project-13969 |
| 20:00.41 | Repo | ulic: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-13969/. FuBar_MicroMenuFu. Shows the micro menu on FuBar. German translation: Chinkuwaila TO INSTALL: Put the FuBar_MicroMenuFu folder into \World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\ Features Shows all the clickable buttons from your... |
| 20:01.17 | ulic | is that something converted from wowace that just got assigned a project number or something instead of a normal short name? |
| 20:02.26 | ArrowmasterClass | no its something thats dead |
| 20:03.06 | ArrowmasterClass | so it got renamed to free up the namespace |
| 20:08.44 | Kaelten | I hate wowmatrix fanbois |
| 20:09.17 | steev | there used to be a guy in our guild who had a hardon for wowmatrix |
| 20:11.02 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth 04v141 beta * r142 : Tagging as v141 beta |
| 20:11.16 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth 04v141 release * r143 : Tagging as v141 release |
| 20:11.31 | Kaelten | entire guilds are forcing their members to adopt it |
| 20:11.38 | Kaelten | even if they understand the problems with it |
| 20:12.10 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/engulf/. Engulf. durcyn (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 20:13.02 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 037destiny * r28 LibStatLogic-1.1/LibStatLogic-1.1.lua: - Rogue: Added Talent |
| 20:13.05 | Repo | - Endurance: increases your total Stamina by 2%/4%. |
| 20:13.09 | Repo | - Savage Combat: Increases your total attack power by 2%/4%. |
| 20:14.15 | Ackis | hates wowmatrix fanbois too *dusts off his wowmatrix hat and t-shirt* |
| 20:15.02 | jaeger | What problems does it have? |
| 20:15.20 | ulic | thievery |
| 20:15.31 | steev | how exactly do you force your entire guild to use wowmatrix? |
| 20:16.00 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/viperwarn/. ViperWarn. dodokiller88 (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 20:16.10 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/gcd/. GCD. Finghin (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 20:17.51 | steev | damn it, can't find addon "Bars" |
| 20:18.25 | jaeger | lot of hate for wowmatrix around the net... what's the preferred updater these days? |
| 20:18.36 | steev | curseclient |
| 20:19.03 | Megalon | wowmatrix it seems! |
| 20:19.05 | Aens|Superiority | wow ui updater. |
| 20:19.10 | Fisker- | curse client |
| 20:19.15 | Fisker- | it's better than Ackis |
| 20:19.18 | Fisker- | though that's not saying a lot |
| 20:19.24 | Fisker- | wowmatrix, however, is worse than Ackis |
| 20:19.27 | Fisker- | which is saying a lot |
| 20:19.27 | durcyn | even you're better than Ackis, Fisker- |
| 20:19.34 | Megalon | that's like saying: it's less troll than Fisker- |
| 20:19.36 | Fisker- | exactly |
| 20:20.15 | steev | svn up, imo |
| 20:20.57 | Ackis | I love you Fisker- |
| 20:21.29 | Aens|Superiority | wow ui updater is great cause its free, can set it to download beta versions, uses cdn, option to delete before unpacking and has ptr support. |
| 20:21.40 | steev | hrm |
| 20:21.54 | steev | "AceModuleCore-2.0:Cannot find module "Bars". |
| 20:22.03 | steev | something tells me an embedded lib needs to be updated |
| 20:22.29 | ckknight | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1233346195868.jpg |
| 20:22.43 | Fisker- | i love you too Ackis |
| 20:22.55 | Fisker- | in that "i fucking hate you and i wanna kill you"-way |
| 20:22.55 | Fisker- | :3 |
| 20:23.19 | Zhinjio | Ackis: new toolbox recipe still not in ARL |
| 20:23.46 | Pneumatus | anyone know of an addon that specifically surpresses loot notifications of embelms of valor/herosim? |
| 20:23.54 | Zhinjio | Titanium Toolbox 30349 |
| 20:23.58 | Pneumatus | or if its possible with Prat |
| 20:23.59 | Ackis | Zhinjio yes it is? |
| 20:24.07 | Ackis | Zhinjio I modified it yesterday |
| 20:24.32 | Zhinjio | well, then push a new beta so it shows up *grin* |
| 20:24.55 | Ackis | hehe |
| 20:25.11 | durcyn | he's grinning at you, Ackis, you gonna take that? |
| 20:25.23 | Zhinjio | also, I'm noticing that the toolltip on recipes is anchored to the cursor. |
| 20:25.48 | Zhinjio | probably should anchor it to topright of the frame or let the default take over |
| 20:25.59 | Zhinjio | it obscures the window and you can longer see what you're hovering over or clicking on |
| 20:26.32 | Ackis | yah there's a ticket for that |
| 20:26.35 | Ackis | i'm not coding toda though |
| 20:26.42 | Ackis | i have a few drugs in me system |
| 20:28.12 | Fisker- | sticks his tongue inside ckknight's ear |
| 20:28.29 | Zhinjio | never stopped you before!?! |
| 20:28.31 | Zhinjio | grins. |
| 20:29.26 | steev | so anyone raid with 2+ dk's? |
| 20:29.32 | selckin | sure |
| 20:29.39 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.46 | steev | any issues when running recount and them dropping dnd? |
| 20:29.47 | Ackis | lol Zhinjio |
| 20:29.59 | NeoTron | I seem to have significany issues with recount in general |
| 20:30.11 | jaeger | I had to disable recount to raid with more than 1 DK in heroic raids |
| 20:30.28 | NeoTron | what is it with multiple dk's specifically? |
| 20:30.33 | jaeger | 1 is fine, 2 or 3 and I drop to less than 1 frame per second when DnD/UB are up |
| 20:30.48 | jaeger | figure it's an update speed/volume thing but not sure |
| 20:30.51 | steev | jaeger: upgrade your computer... and give me that one |
| 20:30.59 | jaeger | yeah, right |
| 20:31.08 | steev | worth a shot ;) |
| 20:31.11 | NeoTron | Morbidity has some sort of performance issue |
| 20:31.23 | NeoTron | that's probably your issue in that specific case |
| 20:31.48 | NeoTron | I don't know HOW it can cause performance issues but it's a known issue amongst players |
| 20:31.54 | jaeger | yeah, that's pretty odd |
| 20:32.47 | NeoTron | most likely the reason that caused me to drop to or below 1 FPS on my old computer even in 10-man raids as the only DK |
| 20:33.21 | jaeger | It's never a problem for me with just 1 but I suppose it could coincidentally happen that the 1 DK doesn't have Morbidity, if that's the case |
| 20:34.03 | steev | is that the one that lowers the cd? |
| 20:34.45 | steev | tbh, since switching to frost dw, i rarely dnd anymore - well, more since removing the cower |
| 20:35.05 | jaeger | reduces the DnD cooldown and increases damage/heal on death coil |
| 20:35.26 | steev | yeah, i've got it - i just never use dnd |
| 20:35.34 | steev | and the other dk i raid with has it too imo |
| 20:37.59 | Repo | 10repairbroker: 03sonomus * r11 RepairBroker.lua: Sonomus: Fix: DockingStation should work properly. |
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| 20:41.25 | Elsia | heya |
| 20:42.50 | Xinhuan | morning elsia ;p |
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| 20:45.03 | Elsia | kinda extremely early morning, by 15 hours or so ;) |
| 20:48.20 | ArrowmasterClass | ~ugt |
| 20:48.21 | purl | it has been said that ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 20:48.44 | Elsia | ` |
| 20:48.48 | Elsia | aww geek standards |
| 20:54.47 | Xinhuan | wts rabbits |
| 20:54.48 | ArrowmasterClass | hmm my xp pro corp cd key isnt working in vmware |
| 20:54.55 | Xinhuan | Lafoo keeps digging them up |
| 21:01.16 | Repo | 10squire: 03Adirelle 04v1.1-beta-3 * r62 : Tagging as v1.1-beta-3 |
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| 21:16.54 | Mokhtar | Note to self, never again code an addon that necessitates to die to be tested |
| 21:17.47 | Elsia | hehe |
| 21:18.17 | Elsia | I test those things outside ironforge, fall deaths + close corpse run |
| 21:19.27 | Mokhtar | I can't :x |
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| 21:19.52 | Mokhtar | Need to generate a few lines in combat log to be sure it works |
| 21:20.32 | Primer | heh, I died a bunch of times coding my addon due to flying (it's a flying addon) and hitting my dismount key, thinking I was typing on my other computer |
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| 21:28.23 | NeoTron | Mokhtar: the author of Acheron has asked both me (unholy DK) and a holy priest to die for him to test handling of angel of death and ghoul on death |
| 21:29.25 | Primer | you mean spirit of redemption? |
| 21:29.29 | Mokhtar | lol |
| 21:29.43 | Elsia | is there a reliable way to detect spirit of redemption? tried to check for the buff but it wasn't up when the combat log event triggered |
| 21:29.56 | Primer | angel of death just sounds so wrong, since you're referring to a holy priest |
| 21:30.16 | Mokhtar | I'm in the process of modifying it but Nicodemus doesn't answer my PMs :p |
| 21:30.23 | NeoTron | Primer: just means angel that signals that the priest just died |
| 21:30.49 | Mokhtar | Elsia : apparently there is |
| 21:30.57 | Elsia | what's the trick? |
| 21:31.05 | Mokhtar | checking the code |
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| 21:31.48 | Elsia | coolio |
| 21:32.43 | Shefki | Ohhh does this mean we may not have double deaths for Priests anymore. |
| 21:33.00 | NeoTron | Elsia: well Acheron handles it |
| 21:35.38 | Mokhtar | Elsia : Hmm it's rather complicated but as I understand it he stops the rolling recording of log at first UNIT_DIED event and then when the second UNIT_DIED event occurs he checks that |
| 21:36.03 | Mokhtar | but I admit I could be wrong |
| 21:36.13 | Elsia | Ì'll look at it, thanks for the lead |
| 21:36.15 | Shadowed | itÂ’s not complicated |
| 21:36.36 | Mokhtar | My lua fu is weak :p |
| 21:36.43 | Shadowed | I did it for Expiration, all you do is check if they gained a buff with the spellID 27827 |
| 21:36.48 | Shadowed | if they did, the next UNIT_DIED event was due to SOR |
| 21:37.06 | Mokhtar | Yep but he doesn't seem to go that route |
| 21:37.18 | Shadowed | then heÂ’s probably doing something fairly weird |
| 21:39.07 | Elsia | Ì tried that but the buff wasn't up in a lot of cases when the event came in |
| 21:46.42 | Wizardling | How stable are fishing node positions? I'm surprised GatherMate records them, for example... |
| 21:47.00 | durcyn | fishing nodes are 100% static. |
| 21:47.22 | Wizardling | how often do they cycle? |
| 21:47.39 | Wizardling | still seems kinda pointless given they're hardly ever there |
| 21:48.09 | Elsia | it's good for extravaganza |
| 21:48.46 | Elsia | i see how that works for spirit, you check buff gain from combat log, not from the unit. just need to figure out how that's timed re unit_died |
| 21:48.51 | Shefki | Wizardling: Hardly ever there? You're nuts. |
| 21:49.00 | Wizardling | I am? |
| 21:49.02 | Wizardling | okay |
| 21:49.08 | Wizardling | but they aren't |
| 21:49.21 | Shefki | No less so than any other node. |
| 21:56.24 | Elsia | anyone got a combatlog file with a spirit of redemption death flying around? |
| 21:58.17 | Pneumatus | probably, but it would be part of a whole raid log |
| 21:58.57 | Elsia | I wouldn't mind that. |
| 22:01.19 | durcyn | Elsia: pms |
| 22:01.27 | Elsia | cools |
| 22:01.55 | durcyn | 's a good 3/10ths of a second before the aura kicks in |
| 22:02.24 | Mokhtar | Anybody knows how to determine the length of a cast started by a party/raid member ? seems to me that GetSpellInfo won't get haste / talents effects :x |
| 22:02.39 | Elsia | which explains why I couldn't get it at UNIT_DIED from the unit |
| 22:05.12 | Elsia | awesome, aura is removed before spirit dies :D |
| 22:05.52 | Elsia | i.e. a trivial check is aura removed and flag the coming unit_died for special handling |
| 22:06.10 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: you ever going to fix the wowace theme to not pull from your server? |
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| 22:11.45 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: that 10px image? =P |
| 22:11.54 | nevcairiel | i always forget to have someone upload it |
| 22:12.02 | Fisker- | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:15.15 | Mokhtar | Anybody knows how to determine the length of a cast started by a party/raid member ? seems to me that GetSpellInfo won't get haste / talents effects :x |
| 22:15.35 | Mokhtar | Sorry about the repeat, just making sure noone knows =) |
| 22:15.36 | Arrowmaster | !api castinginfo |
| 22:15.37 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'UnitCastingInfo' can be found at http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitCastingInfo |
| 22:15.48 | Arrowmaster | WoW-Bot: DIE YOU USELESS BOT |
| 22:16.12 | Mokhtar | woot thanks Arrowmaster =) |
| 22:19.10 | Droolio | how can i anchor a normal frame to the mouse cursor? i have a tooltip that's not a GameTooltip but a custom frame... |
| 22:19.18 | Droolio | would an OnUpdate be the only way to do this? |
| 22:19.29 | nevcairiel | there Arrowmaster, fixed :p |
| 22:22.06 | Xinhuan | you could make a GameTooltip anchor to the cursor, make it like 1 pixel x 1 pixel, and anchor your frame to that gametooltip |
| 22:22.06 | Xinhuan | one big hack |
| 22:22.06 | Xinhuan | but avoids an onupdate |
| 22:22.06 | Xinhuan | at least, i think it'll work, not certain ;p |
| 22:22.13 | Droolio | heh i had thought that. but i'm thinking an onupdate would be better |
| 22:22.31 | Xinhuan | i don't think so |
| 22:22.42 | Droolio | would it be wise to remove the OnUpdate script from the frame as and when i need the tooltip? |
| 22:22.51 | Droolio | hmm |
| 22:24.32 | Xinhuan | wow, new Arrowmaster signature |
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| 22:31.53 | durcyn | classy. |
| 22:32.17 | durcyn | personally, i think farlander serves as a valuable example for the rest of us, of what not to do. |
| 22:33.17 | Shefki | What did he do now? |
| 22:33.57 | Torhal | Shefki: He asked Arrowmaster a few months ago "what did I do, run over your grandmother?" and now it's Arrow's sig. |
| 22:34.46 | Zhinjio | my favorite thing is still Broker_GarbageFu |
| 22:34.51 | Torhal | Haha |
| 22:34.53 | Torhal | Yah |
| 22:35.05 | Shefki | I think his user name is my favorite. |
| 22:35.10 | Shefki | Who puts Lord in their username. |
| 22:35.25 | Torhal | Seriously, though...I got to thinking, after the whole debacle over taleden's library: Why the hell is LibLordFarlander on WoWAce? |
| 22:35.31 | LordZhinjio | uh |
| 22:35.51 | ckknight | because we let him slip through the cracks |
| 22:35.54 | ckknight | we should move him |
| 22:35.55 | Shefki | ~lart Zhinjio |
| 22:35.55 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of Zhinjio |
| 22:35.57 | ckknight | someone file a ticket |
| 22:36.01 | ckknight | not sure where, though |
| 22:36.02 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:36.04 | ckknight | make a report |
| 22:36.06 | Arrowmaster | because they havent given me the power to move projects yet |
| 22:36.06 | ckknight | that'll be good |
| 22:36.22 | ckknight | because you'll abuse that power, Arrowmaster |
| 22:36.31 | Arrowmaster | will not |
| 22:36.52 | Zhinjio | nuh hu! |
| 22:36.55 | Zhinjio | er, uh! |
| 22:38.27 | tlund | does someone have something to recommend for replacing FuBar_HonorFu? |
| 22:38.47 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 22:39.03 | Arrowmaster | its not needed anymore |
| 22:39.20 | ckknight | yea, it's mostly in Blizz's UI now |
| 22:39.21 | ckknight | afaik |
| 22:39.59 | tlund | well, i use it for autorelease in bg and to display how many AB/AV/WSG marks i have in my fubar |
| 22:40.11 | tlund | it also keeps some nice statistics |
| 22:40.12 | Arrowmaster | it never showed marks |
| 22:40.15 | Repo | 10hazfish: 03MightyHaz * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): HazFish, the one-handed fishing toy |
| 22:40.42 | Repo | 10hazfish: 03MightyHaz 04v1.0-release * r3 : Tagging as v1.0-release |
| 22:40.43 | tlund | oh. |
| 22:40.50 | tlund | sorry, its FuBar_HonorFuPlus i use :) |
| 22:44.07 | Pneumatus | it does show marks, Arrowmaster |
| 22:44.12 | Pneumatus | honorfuplus, that is |
| 22:44.20 | Arrowmaster | which is not honorfu |
| 22:46.09 | Elsia | the lib thing, is that because of the reward program? |
| 22:46.21 | Arrowmaster | what lib thing? |
| 22:46.35 | Elsia | well the "delete, move, evaluate, talk about etc" thing on libs |
| 22:46.39 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * aabcaa8 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Apparently we hadn't used AceHook-3.0 previously, include in |
| 22:46.44 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:46.55 | Arrowmaster | its because we dont want crap on wowace |
| 22:47.16 | Elsia | how are people supposed to learn if they cannot go through early stages of programming, share their stuff etc? |
| 22:47.27 | Elsia | or is learning history with the "no crap" policy? |
| 22:47.30 | Arrowmaster | they could put it on curseforge |
| 22:47.40 | Elsia | which is bad for exchange |
| 22:47.47 | Arrowmaster | its the exact same setup |
| 22:47.51 | Elsia | seriously I could see it the other way around but like this |
| 22:48.06 | Elsia | where's the forum, the experienced community on curseforge? |
| 22:48.18 | Arrowmaster | you can still use the forum on wowace....... |
| 22:48.29 | Elsia | doesn't make sense though |
| 22:49.13 | Elsia | so your stuff gets move away and you still should feel welcome in the forum where your stuff got moved away from? |
| 22:49.20 | Arrowmaster | we also dont accept all addons in the approval queue |
| 22:49.37 | Elsia | and it's not because of the reward program? I don't get it. |
| 22:49.52 | Arrowmaster | the reward program applies to both wowace and curseforge |
| 22:49.59 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt matter which you use |
| 22:50.25 | Elsia | so why was it decided that wowace has higher standards that curseforge when the debate about programming is here? |
| 22:50.34 | Elsia | and was that even decided like that? |
| 22:50.51 | Arrowmaster | because wowace has always been seen like that, now we actually have the ability to enforce it |
| 22:51.00 | Elsia | it was? |
| 22:51.02 | Arrowmaster | over half the stuff on the old svn were total crap |
| 22:51.10 | Arrowmaster | were you around years ago? |
| 22:51.28 | Elsia | well if wowace is supposed to be like you say I'm not sure why I should be here frankly |
| 22:51.34 | Arrowmaster | during the initial 'make it ace' crap |
| 22:52.28 | Elsia | your point is? that you or a small group of people decide the culture, what is welcome and what gets pecked at? |
| 22:53.02 | Arrowmaster | dont like it? then why the hell should we even keep wowace around instead of just merging it with curseforge? |
| 22:53.31 | Elsia | "we"? |
| 22:53.34 | Shefki | Let's see... WoWAce is wow specific. |
| 22:53.43 | Shefki | WowAce has a large community. |
| 22:53.43 | Arrowmaster | we as in curse |
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| 22:53.58 | Elsia | well because its a place to nurture addon authors? |
| 22:54.08 | Arrowmaster | if any and everything was accepted then its perty useless and should just be merged with curseforge |
| 22:54.36 | Elsia | why not the inverse policy? |
| 22:54.48 | Elsia | moderate curseforge more and have wowace be for open development? |
| 22:54.57 | Arrowmaster | because we dont want to? |
| 22:55.01 | Elsia | we? |
| 22:55.06 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:55.16 | Elsia | I think I should have a chat with kaelten at some point |
| 22:55.23 | Arrowmaster | and curseforge existed before the current wowace |
| 22:55.32 | Arrowmaster | so that idea is impossible |
| 22:55.33 | Kaelten | ? |
| 22:55.47 | Elsia | see I don't particularly care about that, I care to participate in an open and friendly environment |
| 22:55.53 | Elsia | if wowace isn't that I may not belong here |
| 22:56.09 | Pneumatus | it's only an open friendly environment if the cool kids like you |
| 22:56.21 | Arrowmaster | where the hell have you been, wowace hasnt been that for a very long time |
| 22:56.23 | Elsia | that's what I dislike exactly |
| 22:56.27 | Arrowmaster | the forums are full of nothing but stupid users |
| 22:56.33 | Kaelten | ... |
| 22:56.36 | Elsia | ... |
| 22:56.44 | Kaelten | Elsia: WowAce is an open place |
| 22:56.55 | Shefki | I seem to recall there being a very specific rules against making comments like what you just made Arrow. |
| 22:56.56 | Elsia | arrowmaster just said that it isn't |
| 22:56.59 | Kaelten | and if it's really not anylonger someone should tell me. |
| 22:57.05 | Kaelten | I've been distracted with the client |
| 22:57.12 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster is overzealous at times :P |
| 22:57.14 | Zhinjio | its only friendly if you bring cookies |
| 22:57.21 | Elsia | well there is apparently another lib to be moved. I ask why the lib moving because I don't get it |
| 22:57.25 | ckknight | Zhinjio's right |
| 22:57.28 | Elsia | it's alienating in my view |
| 22:57.29 | ckknight | cupcakes are also acceptable. |
| 22:57.33 | Kaelten | Elsia: what lib? |
| 22:57.39 | Elsia | see arrows sig ;) |
| 22:57.47 | ckknight | link? |
| 22:57.58 | Arrowmaster | talking about lordfarlanders stuff |
| 22:58.02 | ckknight | oh |
| 22:58.18 | ckknight | yea, that is something that should be moved out someday |
| 22:58.35 | Arrowmaster | its also stuff that is only on wowace because it came from the old svn |
| 22:58.36 | Elsia | how are inexperienced authors supposed to enter a community if they are subject to pecking, high standards and bbeing moved around? |
| 22:58.45 | ckknight | easy |
| 22:58.48 | ckknight | they talk on forums |
| 22:58.48 | ckknight | learn |
| 22:58.55 | ckknight | we're more than willing to help out |
| 22:59.00 | Zhinjio | get abused in here until they earn their chops |
| 22:59.00 | Kaelten | Elsia: we don't require that new authors be perfect |
| 22:59.02 | Zhinjio | so to speak |
| 22:59.04 | ckknight | I like tutoring people on what's right |
| 22:59.11 | ckknight | but we're strict about some things |
| 22:59.15 | Kaelten | we do require that they're willing to at least try to learn. |
| 22:59.18 | ckknight | like, we won't accept any new library that isn't documented |
| 22:59.21 | Zhinjio | it took a long time before anyone in here would even talk to me |
| 22:59.24 | ckknight | or at least I won't |
| 22:59.24 | Zhinjio | then I brougth cookies. |
| 22:59.30 | Kaelten | Zhinjio: :P |
| 22:59.34 | Elsia | let me put it like this. if I came here as a newbie and first thing that happens, is my lib gets moved away, I certainly would not feel welcomed or invited to learn here |
| 22:59.45 | Kaelten | Elsia: it shouldn't be the first thing |
| 22:59.58 | Kaelten | and if it is, I'd apologize and lart whoever messed with you |
| 23:00.01 | Zhinjio | also: new users aren't making libs |
| 23:00.04 | ckknight | your lib likely wouldn't be moved away unless there are glaring issues with the concept itself. |
| 23:00.08 | Arrowmaster | if you came here as a newbie and the first thing you did was submit a new lib you deserve to feel unwelcome |
| 23:00.16 | Kaelten | ~lart Arrowmaster |
| 23:00.16 | purl | tries to shut Arrowmaster up |
| 23:00.17 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: no. |
| 23:00.21 | Arrowmaster | because you didnt even try to be part of the community |
| 23:00.31 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: that's not how it works either. |
| 23:00.51 | Shefki | I don't really use the forums. *shrug* |
| 23:00.53 | Kaelten | just because someone submits a library as part of their hello to the community doesn't mean that they are unwelcomed |
| 23:00.56 | Shefki | I'm not a big fan of web forums. |
| 23:01.01 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten: is too, the first they a newbie should do is ask others on irc or forums for advice, not make a new lib and submit it |
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| 23:01.03 | ckknight | same, Shefki |
| 23:01.19 | Shefki | I'm old school... Mailing lists and IRC. |
| 23:01.27 | ckknight | I don't see why somebody's hello can't include code in library form. |
| 23:01.32 | ckknight | if the library is sound |
| 23:01.34 | ckknight | what's the problem? |
| 23:01.36 | Pneumatus | just because someone is new to the wowace community doesnt make them new to addon development |
| 23:01.49 | Pneumatus | rubbishing someones lib just because they are unknown isn't useful |
| 23:01.49 | ckknight | very true, Pneumatus |
| 23:01.56 | durcyn | library or not, people who write crap code should be made aware of it |
| 23:02.00 | Arrowmaster | yeah but if they just submit a library and dont post on the forums or come on irc, they arent even asking for help so they dont belong |
| 23:02.02 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: sorry. It's not. Sound code, or at least theory combined with a willingness to document and improve is more than enough |
| 23:02.16 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: nope, wrong again. |
| 23:02.25 | Kaelten | durcyn: I'm not saying they shouldn't |
| 23:02.30 | Kaelten | but we should be attempting to teach them |
| 23:02.36 | Shefki | durcyn: A more useful way to handle that is not call it crap code, but to point out the specific ways it can be improved. |
| 23:02.36 | Kaelten | not attempting to throttle them |
| 23:02.40 | ckknight | some people hate IRC, I disagree with their choice, but that doesn't mean they should be shunned. |
| 23:02.54 | Arrowmaster | theres plent of stuff on wowace from people that have never been on irc or posted on the forums that shouldnt even be there imho |
| 23:02.57 | Shefki | People tend to react very defensively when you tell them they wrote crap and react very positively to suggestions and help. |
| 23:03.32 | Elsia | I don't like IRC because of the aggressivity of some folks here, else it can be useful. IRC is good for some things. forum is too, just let people find their own way to communicate, there is no one right thing |
| 23:03.34 | ckknight | Shefki: your code is crap. You need to include more cat references in your code. lolcats, specifically. |
| 23:03.35 | Kaelten | bottom line, this community is and always has been about helping code quality improve. If we start turning away every new developer that graces our doorstep we will stagnate and fail. Plain and simple. |
| 23:03.40 | Elsia | i really hated how indy went after grayhoof because he didn't like IRC, that was really poor of him |
| 23:04.05 | Kaelten | Shefki: encoded in base85 |
| 23:04.22 | ckknight | flexes |
| 23:04.35 | Kaelten | Elsia: I know, I don't think grayhoof ever had any attention but to use the svn as a distribution point because his users wanted it. |
| 23:04.42 | Kaelten | but that's all in the past. |
| 23:04.42 | Shefki | ckknight: >^oo^< |
| 23:04.48 | ckknight | ~win Shefki |
| 23:04.49 | purl | Congratulations, Shefki! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 23:04.53 | Elsia | really my only gripe with wowace is the pecking and bullying that comes from some and that as I see it mods don't step up against it because it's addon veterans doing it |
| 23:05.14 | ckknight | Elsia: it's mostly Arrowmaster. Most of us are nicer |
| 23:05.23 | Elsia | well it's very few actually |
| 23:05.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah grayhoof converted to ace2, did a poor job of it, asked for his directories to be locked from others modifing them, never came on irc and almost never used the forums |
| 23:05.31 | Arrowmaster | he was not a part of the community |
| 23:05.35 | Elsia | but it just takes a few nasty people who are unchecked to spoil it for many |
| 23:05.48 | Elsia | Arrowmaster: who are you to decide who's part of the community? |
| 23:05.54 | Arrowmaster | i havent been keeping up on the forums as much but he might have started using the forums more |
| 23:06.00 | ckknight | you decide your own level of involvement, Elsia |
| 23:06.08 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: easy, people that actually try to be involved in it |
| 23:06.22 | Arrowmaster | people that dont try are obviously not part of it |
| 23:06.29 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Actually, Greyhoof asked that someone contact him because he has quit WoW and would like his addons to be maintained. |
| 23:06.38 | Elsia | correct, gray did too, that was good. I'm happy to be involved, but I am not happy to have to keep complaining about arrow, indy and at times tek for pecking at poor unsuspecting people |
| 23:06.44 | ckknight | Torhal: that's too bad |
| 23:07.03 | Kaelten | Elsia: bottom line is that he's not. He does contribute a lot to the community. But underneath it all him, tek and indy are all teddy bears. |
| 23:07.03 | ckknight | Elsia: yea, I'm not fond of their behavior most of the time |
| 23:07.15 | ckknight | but they still are useful as moderators |
| 23:07.21 | Kaelten | Ackis: hug Arrowmaster for me |
| 23:07.30 | ckknight | at least Arrowmaster is, despite his lack of tact |
| 23:07.31 | Torhal | Ackis: It's a trap! |
| 23:07.40 | Arrowmaster | i will skin that troll if he does |
| 23:07.54 | ckknight | http://catmas.com/images/2007/07/its-a-trap.jpg |
| 23:07.56 | Kaelten | Tekkub has always been a very active community member and I still value his opinions. |
| 23:08.03 | Kaelten | I take into consideration arrows as well. |
| 23:08.09 | Elsia | seriously I may have to decide if this is a community worth contributing to, because I spend energy on countering negativity rather than working on positive things too much |
| 23:08.11 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know ive been much more agresive lately |
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| 23:08.39 | Elsia | I don't really want to compare tek to arrow and indy. tek is more helpful overall, but he has a very strong opinion that can cause issues |
| 23:08.57 | Tekkub | fuck issues |
| 23:09.00 | ckknight | Elsia: ultimately, that's your prerogative, my advice is to ignore the insults, make your code better, ask for help, etc. You'll be accepted |
| 23:09.05 | Torhal | Elsia: Do what I do. Ignore the negativity. |
| 23:09.13 | Elsia | "your code is crap" without any actual input is unacceptable. tek will usually give something constructive with harsh criticism, I have no issue with that |
| 23:09.16 | Kaelten | Arrowmaster: I'm going to ask you again, calm down some. Lay back. |
| 23:09.25 | Arrowmaster | i give stuff constructive if asked |
| 23:09.29 | ckknight | Torhal: your hair is long. Take that, bam! |
| 23:09.32 | Elsia | Torhal: if I do that arrow and indy win and the poor guys get bulied and scared off |
| 23:09.38 | Kaelten | Elsia: absolutely, negative feedback without contstructive additions is worthless |
| 23:09.39 | Elsia | i hardly ever see a mod step in when they do it |
| 23:09.39 | Zhinjio | Elsia: I'm not going to disagree with anything you're saying? But I think that in any group of ... specifically ... programmers, you're always going to have some people who have strong opinions and express them without the best social graces. It comes with the territory. |
| 23:09.40 | ckknight | or at least your avatar's is. I only assume that your avatar is a picture of you |
| 23:09.57 | Torhal | ckknight: Yah, that's me. |
| 23:10.00 | ckknight | Zhinjio: just wait until one of them kills their significant other. |
| 23:10.01 | Kaelten | Elsia: honestly with me I'm so busy I don't have time to troll the channel :( |
| 23:10.12 | Repo | 10furious-raid: 03strangeteeth * r46 FuriousRaid.lua: FuriousRaid.lua: |
| 23:10.15 | Repo | - Added compatibility with XLoot (finally) |
| 23:10.17 | Zhinjio | ckknight: that would fix that problem. |
| 23:10.29 | ckknight | oh, hans reiser, you crazy fool |
| 23:10.31 | Elsia | Kaelten: I understand, but why not put a foot down |
| 23:10.45 | Shefki | >.> |
| 23:10.46 | ckknight | okay everybody, be nice! |
| 23:10.54 | Tekkub | fuck nice too |
| 23:11.02 | Arrowmaster | agreed |
| 23:11.04 | Torhal | Tekkub: Watch your fucking language. Shit! |
| 23:11.05 | Kaelten | Tekkub: you'd like that wouldn't you? |
| 23:11.12 | ckknight | now we'll fascistically monitor your comments. No unhappy faces are allowed anymore. |
| 23:11.14 | quiescens | o.o |
| 23:11.20 | Tekkub | I like to fuck slow, not nice :P |
| 23:11.24 | Tekkub | slow is nice! |
| 23:11.30 | ckknight | Elsia: sorry, I'd rather have freer angry speech than controlled happy speech |
| 23:11.34 | Kaelten | Elsia: such things are easier said than done. And in reality, there is the whole devil you know business. |
| 23:12.01 | Elsia | as said this my not be my community, friendliness doesn't exclude openess and saying anything in any way |
| 23:12.12 | ckknight | Kaelten: you're the devil we know, I thought the rest of us were just level 2 or 3 demons |
| 23:12.27 | Kaelten | :P |
| 23:12.36 | ckknight | starts drawing pentagrams |
| 23:12.40 | Elsia | it's weird to call someone who basically tries to keep things positive fascistic... |
| 23:12.41 | Torhal | Elsia: I threw up a proof-of-concept early version of LibQTip. Arrowmaster said something to the effect that "At least now I know to avoid these crappy threads about these crappy libs" |
| 23:12.41 | Tekkub | I don't think people should get a flowery happy hello and welcome to the community |
| 23:12.43 | Torhal | I ignored it. |
| 23:12.46 | Elsia | but moving people's work around not |
| 23:13.04 | Torhal | Err, LibQTipClick. |
| 23:13.10 | Tekkub | overall as a community we like good clean code, and people need to be able to handle "that code is crap" |
| 23:13.30 | ckknight | Elsia: trying to stay positive = good, forcing positivity on others = bad |
| 23:13.30 | Kaelten | yes, and I think that in general people are willing to say why said code is crap |
| 23:13.32 | Elsia | that is not my complaitn tek |
| 23:13.33 | Tekkub | but yes, the other half of that is giving examples and helping them :P |
| 23:13.55 | Tekkub | okey fine, it's not like I scrolled up to see why the fuck I was pinged anyway :) |
| 23:14.01 | Kaelten | lol |
| 23:14.09 | Tekkub | I just got pinged directly into defensive |
| 23:14.13 | Tekkub | also, fuck you all |
| 23:14.19 | Kaelten | Tekkub: love you too. |
| 23:14.29 | Shefki | b |
| 23:14.39 | Tekkub | especially mr. would be cute with a beard Kaelten |
| 23:14.46 | Kaelten | oh? I have a beard now |
| 23:14.51 | ckknight | yea, he's bearded |
| 23:14.54 | Torhal | Don't encourage him! |
| 23:15.03 | Tekkub | WOO! |
| 23:15.05 | Tekkub | pics? |
| 23:15.06 | Torhal | Haha |
| 23:15.11 | Kaelten | maybe later |
| 23:15.39 | Tekkub | bah, you suck |
| 23:15.50 | Kaelten | I hate to say this but I'm about to have to run pick up my kid, I'm going to talk to arrow some more. Just please be patient with us all Elisa, none of us are perfect, and I do want to strive towards having a better type of flaming going on |
| 23:15.58 | Kaelten | Elsia: we can talk when I get home. |
| 23:16.09 | Kaelten | if I'm late my daycare charges a arm and a leg :( |
| 23:16.13 | Elsia | k, may be too late for me but there'll be another time |
| 23:16.14 | Kaelten | Tekkub: you wish |
| 23:16.21 | Kaelten | Elsia :) |
| 23:16.23 | Elsia | good luck picking the kids |
| 23:16.26 | Tekkub | pfft, daycare |
| 23:16.31 | ckknight | pick the good ones |
| 23:16.42 | Tekkub | get a kiddie harness and a good solid pole |
| 23:17.00 | Kaelten | Tekkub: go watch some furries or something and leave these poor people alone |
| 23:17.01 | ckknight | lol |
| 23:17.16 | Kaelten | anywho |
| 23:17.19 | Kaelten | *poof* |
| 23:17.32 | Tekkub | meh, no one's posted anything new since this morning |
| 23:17.55 | Repo | 10furious-raid: 03strangeteeth 04v3.0.2 * r47 : Now compatible with XLoot (finally) |
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| 23:22.49 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: oh and enough with the god damn project name in the commit message two lines for a single phrase commit messages, this isnt the old all projects on one svn wowace |
| 23:24.14 | Bruners | Tekkub: go fix some of your tickets |
| 23:26.49 | Elsia | funny, I actually got a complaint about the changelog recently, wasn't about that part really but that's alright |
| 23:28.24 | Repo | 10tiny-tip: 03twobits 04v2.03-beta * r257 : Tagging as v2.03-beta |
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| 23:31.59 | cncfanatics | any disc priest about ? wondering about how viable it is for a freshly dinged 80 priest that wants to heal 5mans |
| 23:33.15 | Aeyan | I'm a disc priest |
| 23:33.21 | Aeyan | Perfectably viable |
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| 23:34.24 | Pneumatus | this ^^ you might struggle with HoL though, at least to start with |
| 23:34.43 | Aeyan | Yeah, Loken is kinda a bitch if the group isn't coordianted |
| 23:34.48 | cncfanatics | Aeyan: currently setting up a small list of gear, mind commenting it in about 10 minutes ? |
| 23:34.54 | Aeyan | Sure |
| 23:35.00 | Aeyan | I find disc more fun to heal with, anyway |
| 23:35.14 | Pneumatus | i dont like disc, but i raid as disc to make sarth+3d easier |
| 23:35.28 | Pneumatus | you generally want to stack crit as high as you can :P |
| 23:35.46 | Aeyan | I'd say, Int > Spellpower = Crit > Spirit > Mp/5 > Haste |
| 23:35.50 | Aeyan | For disc gearing |
| 23:35.53 | Pneumatus | take gear with mp5 over spirit |
| 23:36.00 | Aeyan | Meh =P |
| 23:36.14 | Pneumatus | mp5 > spirit because the only thing spirit is used for is meditation |
| 23:36.41 | Pneumatus | remember, crit = aegis = mana return from rapture |
| 23:36.52 | cncfanatics | I'm going for SP => crit => int (rating those 3 very close) > mp/5 > spirit = haste |
| 23:37.14 | Pneumatus | yeh, i generally balance around int/crit/sp |
| 23:37.33 | Pneumatus | items generally have hit, haste or crit on, so you'll be picking up crit that way |
| 23:37.50 | Aeyan | I'd value spirit over mp5 for 5 mans and heroics |
| 23:37.59 | Aeyan | If you're going to be chain casting, it's a little different |
| 23:38.27 | Pneumatus | i dunno, even in heroics i dont spend much time out of the 5sr |
| 23:38.33 | Aeyan | I spend plenty |
| 23:39.03 | onaforeignshore | how is spirit on disc priests, cause all the things I read say do spirit on holy, then mp5 and other way around on disc |
| 23:39.18 | Aeyan | That's what we're debating, hehe |
| 23:39.30 | Pneumatus | because you dont have conversion from spi to sp, the only use for spirit is for mana regen through meditation |
| 23:39.32 | Aeyan | Int is greater than either, so no contest there |
| 23:39.41 | onaforeignshore | spirit + holy is a must, mp5 + disc is a must |
| 23:39.54 | Pneumatus | int = mp5 + crit, so yeh, int is win |
| 23:40.03 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: wtb fixed tekplayermenu :( |
| 23:40.14 | onaforeignshore | not really, cause loads of mana with no regen is crap |
| 23:40.21 | Aeyan | Yes, really |
| 23:40.22 | Pneumatus | you regen with Rapture though |
| 23:40.23 | cncfanatics | <3 u all :) |
| 23:40.24 | onaforeignshore | should be about 1:1 spi:int |
| 23:40.30 | cncfanatics | int > spi imo |
| 23:40.39 | cncfanatics | 1.5:1 imo |
| 23:40.39 | Tekkub | it broke? |
| 23:40.41 | Aeyan | Int returns far more mana per point than spirit does |
| 23:40.54 | Pneumatus | rapture from heals/shields/aegis will give you piles of mana back :P |
| 23:41.13 | Aeyan | Yeah, and rapture returns maan based off the size of your mana pool |
| 23:41.28 | Aeyan | maan |
| 23:41.33 | Aeyan | mana, bah. |
| 23:41.37 | onaforeignshore | http://elitistjerks.com/f77/ |
| 23:42.03 | Pneumatus | yeh, because rapture is 2.5% max mana, the bigger mana pool the better |
| 23:42.09 | onaforeignshore | but spi returns +mp5 and +spell |
| 23:42.23 | Pneumatus | not for disc |
| 23:42.30 | onaforeignshore | for holy |
| 23:42.36 | Aeyan | We're talking about discipline |
| 23:42.44 | onaforeignshore | int gives +spell crit and +mp5 |
| 23:42.49 | sb|work | mah, disc sucks :/ dont want to try it... t :p |
| 23:43.00 | onaforeignshore | Aeyan: that's why I said disc + spi is a no-no |
| 23:43.31 | sb|work | (and even if i wanted to - i dont have gear... :p) |
| 23:43.47 | Pneumatus | gear generally has either spirit or mp5, and in general mp5 will be better but it depends how long you spend outside the 5sr |
| 23:43.56 | sb|work | too much haste, too much spirit, not enough spellpower that is for me :p |
| 23:44.00 | Pneumatus | you will usually be chancasting as disc to keep grace up at the very least |
| 23:44.11 | Aeyan | In a raid environment, yes |
| 23:44.14 | Pneumatus | disc just doesnt scale very well with gear at present |
| 23:44.23 | Aeyan | cncfanatics is asking about healing 5mans |
| 23:44.33 | Aeyan | I still say spirit is superior regen in 5mans |
| 23:45.00 | Pneumatus | you will inevitably end up with a mix of both, anyway |
| 23:45.08 | sb|work | Pneumatus: plus i cant afford to get another healing gear ;) |
| 23:45.10 | Aeyan | Yes, it's not clean cut. |
| 23:45.15 | cncfanatics | mainhand + offhand or staff ? |
| 23:45.23 | Aeyan | And honestly, you'll give up both for crit from time to time |
| 23:45.28 | Aeyan | Depends on the combos =P |
| 23:45.31 | Pneumatus | sb|work: my current gear is a mutation between ex-holy gear and nice disc gear |
| 23:45.41 | cncfanatics | assuming best available |
| 23:45.41 | sb|work | mhh |
| 23:45.41 | thul | I'm playing fable, lost chapters. |
| 23:45.42 | cncfanatics | preraid |
| 23:45.45 | Stanzilla | Tekkub: a bit http://pastey.net/107327 |
| 23:46.04 | Pneumatus | cncfanatics: 1h and offhand generally will give you better stats than a 2h |
| 23:46.07 | Aeyan | Mace of Unrequited Love and the Handbook of Obscure Remedies |
| 23:46.31 | Pneumatus | there are a couple of decent disc 2h around though |
| 23:46.52 | Tekkub | Stanzilla, I have a bug tracker you know |
| 23:47.02 | Stanzilla | yes I know :P |
| 23:47.09 | Tekkub | by the time I can get to it, I'll have lost your link :P |
| 23:47.19 | Aeyan | Most have haste on them |
| 23:47.33 | cncfanatics | lol I fail |
| 23:47.36 | Stanzilla | will file a ticket when I'm back home |
| 23:47.39 | cncfanatics | forgot to add epics to the list when looking for heroic gear |
| 23:47.44 | cncfanatics | will have to redo my heroic list |
| 23:47.47 | Tekkub | domo |
| 23:47.52 | Pneumatus | there's a 2h staff that drops at sartharion with crit, but that may be 25man |
| 23:48.07 | Pneumatus | i used it until i got Impossible Dream from naxx25 |
| 23:48.36 | Aeyan | Yeah, the Staff of Restraint |
| 23:48.39 | Aeyan | It's a good'n |
| 23:49.01 | cncfanatics | can people rate my list so far ? |
| 23:49.05 | cncfanatics | actualy, one sec |
| 23:49.09 | cncfanatics | still missing weps & rings |
| 23:49.27 | cncfanatics | I could also use trinket suggestions |
| 23:49.27 | Pneumatus | yeh looks like thats 25man anyway, although i dunno about your realm but we have a lot of pugs do OS25 here :) |
| 23:49.32 | Pneumatus | forge ember |
| 23:49.32 | cncfanatics | I hate rating trinks :( |
| 23:49.34 | Pneumatus | and something else |
| 23:50.45 | Aeyan | I use the Soul Preserver and the The Egg of Mortal Essence |
| 23:50.53 | Aeyan | If the ember would ever drop, I'd scrap the preserver |
| 23:51.10 | TradeMark | emblem trinkets are pwnage |
| 23:51.16 | Pneumatus | crit on trinkets is pretty rare though |
| 23:51.35 | Pneumatus | i use Forge Ember and Soul of the Dead, which are the best crit trinks for a healer in game afaik |
| 23:51.55 | sb|work | <3 soul of the dead |
| 23:51.56 | cncfanatics | I'm dinging 80 tomorrow >.> dont rly got raid access |
| 23:51.56 | Aeyan | Quit bringing up 25 man drops =P |
| 23:52.05 | Aeyan | He wants instance loot, hehe |
| 23:52.21 | Pneumatus | yeh, ignore soul of the dead though as thats 25man, you'll be looking at something like the badge egg for your 2nd trink |
| 23:52.36 | Pneumatus | or the nobles deck if you're loaded |
| 23:52.38 | Aeyan | Forge Ember + Egg, would be the ideal |
| 23:52.47 | Pneumatus | nobles deck would be better :P |
| 23:53.00 | Pneumatus | assuming int was your highest stat, anywya |
| 23:53.04 | sb|work | or thingie-bell for nice SP+mp5 |
| 23:53.11 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 23:53.32 | sb|work | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37835 that is |
| 23:53.36 | quiescens | thingiebell~! |
| 23:53.47 | Aeyan | Good luck with that |
| 23:53.58 | Pneumatus | there's an easier alternative to that from sarth10 |
| 23:54.10 | Pneumatus | the green drake head thingy, which is 180spi |
| 23:54.35 | sb|work | but disc doesnt need 180 spi :p |
| 23:54.40 | quiescens | but the thingiebell has spellpower |
| 23:54.41 | Aeyan | Yeah |
| 23:54.48 | sb|work | and for holy its 180spi+15% actually |
| 23:54.49 | Pneumatus | true |
| 23:54.52 | Aeyan | Meh to the green dragon figurine |
| 23:55.08 | Pneumatus | green dragon figurine is awesome for holy, but its like 40mp5 even for disc |
| 23:56.07 | cncfanatics | http://pastey.net/107330 anyone got suggestions for this list ? |
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| 23:57.26 | Aeyan | For the chest, try to grab the Robes of Crackling Flame from Exalted Kirin Tor as soon as you can |
| 23:57.57 | Pneumatus | yeh, you'll want to rep kirintor for the helm enchant anyway |
| 23:58.10 | cncfanatics | let me see those robes |
| 23:58.14 | cncfanatics | they must have slipped through |
| 23:58.24 | cncfanatics | aah ok |
| 23:58.26 | cncfanatics | I filtered out epix |
| 23:58.27 | Aeyan | Not sure'd waste mats on crafting the pvp stuff |
| 23:58.30 | Aeyan | Up to you, though |
| 23:58.31 | cncfanatics | didnt think of rep epix |
| 23:58.39 | cncfanatics | they're best in slot |
| 23:58.41 | cncfanatics | so why not ? |
| 23:58.46 | cncfanatics | couldn't find any better at least |
| 23:59.08 | cncfanatics | I'm a tailor anyway heh |
| 23:59.20 | Pneumatus | assuming you're a tailor, youll be making them to skill up anyway |
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