| 00:04.01 | Codayus | Actually, I got to sit in on a meeting with people talking about web 4.0 on Tuesday. |
| 00:04.11 | Codayus | I threw up a little in my mouth. :-/ |
| 00:05.02 | TradeMark | o.O |
| 00:05.07 | thul | Bristol Palin is single guys |
| 00:05.30 | Axodious | nailin' palin 2? |
| 00:05.43 | TradeMark | was it touting the benefits of semantic web perchance? |
| 00:05.56 | TradeMark | lol thul |
| 00:06.06 | thul | :-P |
| 00:06.49 | syeren | ckknight, you seem to be hard at work on PB4.0 |
| 00:07.04 | ckknight | sure am |
| 00:07.05 | Codayus | TradeMark: Naa, the meeting was mostly about a fairly plain vanilla corporate website. Possibly with a shopping cart and maybe even a blog, although probably not at launch. |
| 00:07.25 | thul | i want strawberry cheesecake icecream |
| 00:07.27 | thul | hagen daz. |
| 00:07.47 | Axodious | i want vanilla bean cheesecake |
| 00:07.55 | Axodious | but boston pizza stopped serving it >:( |
| 00:08.01 | TradeMark | Codayus: and they called that 4.0? o____O |
| 00:08.08 | TradeMark | that's like 1.5 :P |
| 00:08.16 | ulic | ckknight: I just added the ticket for ToToT frame displaying even though it's disabled. |
| 00:08.47 | ckknight | k |
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| 00:11.09 | Codayus | TradeMark: yeah, I know. |
| 00:11.33 | thul | http://img7.nettby.no/users/g/o/n/gonore/files/1224356390903.jpg <- haha, I'm laughing (so not safe for work) |
| 00:12.04 | Codayus | Well, to be fair, there's some enthusiasm to somehow put some sort of 3D interactive models (very much like the wowhead "see in 3d" stuff) on the website at some point in the very distant future, maybe. |
| 00:12.13 | nevcairiel | thul: the head looks so photoshopped on |
| 00:13.01 | nevcairiel | Codayus: thats 4.0 now? :P |
| 00:13.45 | thul | nevcairiel: let us hope so |
| 00:13.57 | Codayus | nevcairiel: Apparently. |
| 00:14.56 | ckknight | saves thul's pic |
| 00:15.13 | thul | haha |
| 00:18.47 | the_d0c | using kgpanels, can't seem to figure out the code to change border colors of a panel via event.. |
| 00:19.20 | knigitz | self:SetBorderColor() doesn't seem to work :/ |
| 00:23.24 | knigitz | nevermind, got it |
| 00:24.39 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r6 : djklejd |
| 00:24.49 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 00:25.11 | NivFreak | wow |
| 00:25.25 | NivFreak | nice commit |
| 00:25.34 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r7 Changelog-PitBull4-r20090311233327.txt: mnhgm |
| 00:25.41 | Stanzilla | okay! |
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| 00:26.19 | NivFreak | I really like these pb4 commits, perhaps it can start a new trend |
| 00:26.36 | thul | by the way, some girl signing with her name and "student" wrote the most... unintelligent babble ever in the student newspaper this week |
| 00:26.42 | thul | basically, in a page or so, she wrote : "the basic building blocks of the universe are energy, and energy is consioucsness... so when healing work, it is not placebo, it is the eternal energy of the universe replenishing you!! scientific tests can't show this, beacause science is dogmatic and religious" |
| 00:26.48 | thul | ... I _hate_ people studying social sciences talking about what actual science is and is not. |
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| 00:27.23 | NeoTron | clearly the committer is quoting his ghoul |
| 00:28.07 | thul | to quote her: "biologists think that the conciousness is in the brain, that is wrong, it comes from he mental energy field" |
| 00:28.18 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r8 Changelog-PitBull4-r20090311233327.txt: jcjyfy |
| 00:28.24 | NivFreak | more win |
| 00:29.07 | thul | so much.. WIN |
| 00:29.10 | Stanzilla | maybe his cat writes the commit notes |
| 00:29.31 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1023 Recount.lua: |
| 00:29.34 | Repo | - Set new boss records even if unit scanning failed (gfhfgdk) |
| 00:30.35 | Stanzilla | lol Elsia :P |
| 00:30.35 | thul | http://pastebin.com/m62c7c404 <- quick google translation |
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| 00:33.06 | thul | on the topic of cute nerdy girls though: http://fc44.deviantart.com/fs42/i/2009/070/9/c/Laughter_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- I like that one |
| 00:33.24 | NivFreak | nice! |
| 00:33.30 | NivFreak | Elsia just made it a fad |
| 00:33.42 | NivFreak | Elsia: I like the guessed absorbs module btw |
| 00:33.47 | NivFreak | my disc priest loves you |
| 00:33.57 | Elsia | glad, all working as intended? |
| 00:34.03 | NivFreak | and now we both want a healing+guessed absorbed view |
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| 00:34.16 | NivFreak | it seems correct, as best as we could tell |
| 00:34.26 | Elsia | still hoping to get a thumbs up on divine aegis recording (asfdsd) |
| 00:34.35 | NivFreak | as for your death report module, is this different than the deaths tab in the base recount? |
| 00:34.45 | Elsia | yeah |
| 00:34.51 | NivFreak | sooo, how do I access it? |
| 00:35.00 | Elsia | click the total bar |
| 00:35.05 | Elsia | I have to come up with a more n |
| 00:35.07 | chiper | hey NivFreak: thoughts on the new ipod shuffle? |
| 00:35.10 | Elsia | intuitive way to start it |
| 00:35.21 | NivFreak | the total bar in the deaths views? |
| 00:35.23 | NivFreak | view* |
| 00:35.25 | Elsia | it opens a window that shows a timed list when people died |
| 00:35.32 | Elsia | in any view I think but death works for sure |
| 00:35.33 | NivFreak | chiper: shuffles are useless :) |
| 00:35.47 | chiper | heh, well I guess that settles your opinion then |
| 00:35.47 | NivFreak | Elsia: oh, ok, I'll look for it |
| 00:36.29 | Neebler | http://lh6.google.ca/abramsv/R6a_wO9HrRI/AAAAAAAAGQM/xf0d3TbtGqc/s1600-h/1818973829_94fac2c358_o.jpg |
| 00:36.30 | chiper | I love me 2nd gen for audio books, but this new one is rather inconvenient for that. |
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| 00:36.31 | Neebler | GET TO WORK |
| 00:36.54 | chiper | seems like apple overspecialized a bit here |
| 00:37.06 | NivFreak | chiper: can you skip tracks yet? |
| 00:37.07 | NivFreak | hehe |
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| 00:37.15 | chiper | you could always skip tracks |
| 00:37.25 | chiper | but now it takes two button clicks to do it instead of one |
| 00:37.40 | NivFreak | the voice over helps I suppose |
| 00:38.05 | NivFreak | the lack of a display was always the deal breaker for me |
| 00:38.05 | NivFreak | and skipping through 1000 songs to find the track I want with voice over still sounds like crap |
| 00:38.38 | chiper | *nod* |
| 00:38.47 | Tinyboom | ckknight: link to cc3? |
| 00:38.52 | NivFreak | I just use my iPhone now days, the iPod video I still have now lives in arfy's glovebox |
| 00:39.47 | Tinyboom | thanks, now for inflated awesomness :D |
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| 00:41.43 | chiper | heads for home |
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| 00:53.45 | knigitz | there, now all my kgpanel borders match the color of the fog from ambientaura =D |
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| 00:58.16 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r52 Core.lua: -maybe fix lagging combo points on rogues (ticket #9) |
| 01:02.56 | ckknight | lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w |
| 01:10.15 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r53 Core.lua: |
| 01:10.18 | Repo | -move text updates to match combo graphic updates, should reduce lag on updates for rogues |
| 01:12.15 | RaydenUni | wow |
| 01:12.21 | RaydenUni | we just wiped twice on the first mobs in arachnid |
| 01:12.26 | RaydenUni | cause a pet aggro'd the group we weren't on |
| 01:12.45 | Axodious | omg rofl our tank just hit a cyclone on sarth |
| 01:13.10 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r54 Core.lua: -don't process poisons if the poison graphics are disabled |
| 01:14.05 | SqueeG | i like my sansdisk sansa |
| 01:14.14 | SqueeG | At least it has a display :p |
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| 01:21.57 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r9 / (318 files in 75 directories): initial version |
| 01:22.19 | knigitz | my new ui, in and out of combat... http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1614/wowscrnshot031109211554.jpg |
| 01:22.19 | knigitz | http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8185/wowscrnshot031109211618.jpg |
| 01:24.48 | TradeMark | nice |
| 01:24.57 | RaydenUni | what's at the top? |
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| 01:27.56 | knigitz | fubar |
| 01:28.45 | fewyn | Any raiding moonkins in here? |
| 01:29.51 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia 041.0.8 beta3 * r55 : Tagging as 1.0.8 beta3 |
| 01:31.05 | RaydenUni | what's the raid icon fubar plugin? |
| 01:31.12 | Hjalte | fewyn: Yeah. |
| 01:31.25 | fewyn | Hjalte: 4 piece bonus worth it? |
| 01:31.30 | fewyn | for tier 7 |
| 01:31.33 | Hjalte | fewyn: Definately. |
| 01:31.34 | knigitz | that would be FuBar_LuckyCharms |
| 01:31.51 | fewyn | Just debating, which pieces I want. |
| 01:32.01 | Hjalte | fewyn: Don't go for the legs though. |
| 01:32.14 | fewyn | I pretty much have access to everything |
| 01:32.49 | RaydenUni | i should try to clean mine again |
| 01:33.00 | fewyn | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Norgannon&n=Moonshaker |
| 01:33.02 | RaydenUni | although i'm generally pretty pleased with it |
| 01:33.07 | RaydenUni | chat window is always a problem |
| 01:33.12 | RaydenUni | what resolution are you running knigitz ? |
| 01:33.12 | Hjalte | fewyn: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dunemaul&n=Naturea - I'd like to upgrade my weapon only. The quest neck from Saph is nice as well, but then I'd need to replace some hit elsewhere. |
| 01:33.32 | knigitz | 1650x1050 or something or other |
| 01:33.54 | knigitz | whatever resolution the images are - i use minichat and prat for my chat window. |
| 01:34.09 | fewyn | Hjalte if you have any suggestions about my talents or gear i'll glad accept them |
| 01:34.11 | RaydenUni | 1680x1050 |
| 01:34.12 | RaydenUni | same as me |
| 01:34.22 | RaydenUni | i should reduce my chat font maybe |
| 01:34.40 | RaydenUni | yours feels much emptier than mine |
| 01:34.57 | knigitz | i'm generally a minimalist ;) |
| 01:35.27 | RaydenUni | i like minimalist |
| 01:35.31 | RaydenUni | i just have a lot of things i like :P |
| 01:35.59 | RaydenUni | http://raydenuni.com/files/images/wow/WoWScrnShot_121208_003922.jpg |
| 01:37.43 | Hjalte | fewyn: You need all that mana regen? I'd strip anything besides Intensity, if you need even that. Improwed Insect Swarm is also nice, for the 3% crit to Starfire. My gear is pretty much BIS. |
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| 01:40.40 | fewyn | i was thinking about dropping dreamstate and starfall for imp is |
| 01:40.59 | Repo | 10titletronic: 03quantorsht * r4 / (87 files in 26 directories): |
| 01:41.02 | Repo | Update to Ace3. Start adding user interface. No capability for localization, need to look into that... |
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| 01:42.27 | Hjalte | fewyn: Actually, if your raid has a feral druid, you often are without shadow priests, or you need to keep up Faerie Fire for the meeles in a heroic raid, you should invest in Imp FF rather. If you keep it up, it boosts the melee dps. If a feral does, that's 3% crit for you. |
| 01:42.43 | fewyn | We have a feral druid and no shadow priests |
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| 01:45.12 | Hjalte | fewyn: http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t41030-moonkin_guide_dummies/ will tell you about most things. |
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| 02:21.51 | fewyn | sigh i want to slap my healers upside the head |
| 02:22.06 | fewyn | didn't heal me in iceblock on kt |
| 02:23.12 | Axodious | i just got heroic glory of the raider ;o |
| 02:23.44 | fewyn | i hate j00 |
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| 02:24.54 | Mytos | can anyone tell me how to setup tellmewhen to work with bloodsurge |
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| 02:34.08 | fewyn | I hate Malygos |
| 02:34.09 | fewyn | fyi |
| 02:35.55 | TradeMark | vehicle fights ftl |
| 02:36.19 | fewyn | yes |
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| 02:41.37 | Mytos | anyone know a way i can set tellmewhen to show when ive got a bloodsurge proc, or another mod that will do so? |
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| 02:44.04 | Aeyan | Sorry, never used TellMeWhen |
| 02:44.13 | Aeyan | I do alerts through my combat text addon |
| 02:44.39 | ulic | parrot could do it probably. |
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| 02:46.06 | Aeyan | Well, judging from the description, TellMeWhen could do it easily. |
| 02:46.13 | Aeyan | I've just never used it, hehe. |
| 02:47.43 | Mytos | yea, but it goes by the name of the buff you gain when it procs, and ive tried about four different ways and it doesnt work |
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| 02:48.06 | Mytos | ive tried slam, bloodsurge, surge, and slam! because it shows up as all of those in different ways |
| 02:48.26 | Torhal | MSBT will probably do it. |
| 02:49.15 | Aeyan | The MSBT trigger for Bloodsurge goes off on 'Slam!' |
| 02:50.30 | RaydenUni | 4020dps on loatheb 25 |
| 02:50.36 | sztanpet | @project NAO |
| 02:50.38 | Repo | sztanpet: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/nao/. Nao!!. Game: WoW. leethal (Manager/Author). Updated: 71 days ago. Tickets: 8/28 |
| 02:50.44 | sztanpet | Mytos use that |
| 02:52.28 | Mytos | thanks this is perfect |
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| 02:59.20 | digmouse | did anyone got problem of Pitbull4 frames stuck on their mouse? |
| 02:59.29 | digmouse | in config mode |
| 02:59.58 | sztanpet | yes, shefki is to blame |
| 03:00.44 | sztanpet | sadly ckk dismissed the issue with "but just click on it again" |
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| 03:00.57 | ckknight | it's a bug |
| 03:01.01 | ckknight | no doubt about that |
| 03:01.26 | sztanpet | sure, im just saying that i clicking on it again doesnt solve it either |
| 03:01.39 | sztanpet | i have to reload my ui |
| 03:08.07 | SqueeG | Torhal! |
| 03:08.45 | SqueeG | ah nvm... |
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| 03:15.54 | ckknight | sztanpet: yea, that's not true if you're up to date |
| 03:16.27 | sztanpet | the only rev i didnt try out yet is the powerbar fix |
| 03:16.44 | sztanpet | i blame Fisker- anyway |
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| 03:17.42 | Shefki | sztanpet: That's not my fault... Clearly a ck bug. |
| 03:18.42 | Neebler | I have an uncle named Cameron, we call him Cam |
| 03:18.50 | Neebler | which always felt strange to me |
| 03:20.30 | digmouse | but ck, "but just click on it again" dont work everytime :( |
| 03:21.58 | Torhal | SqueeG: Feh? |
| 03:22.09 | Torhal | I was watching BSG season 1. |
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| 03:27.28 | Shefki | digmouse: I've had the stuck on mouse issue happen to me. |
| 03:27.31 | NivFreak | man, I really can't figure out where elisa expects me to pull up this recount death report module |
| 03:28.19 | digmouse | Shefki: lol I tried clicking on it insanely and sometimes it works |
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| 03:28.37 | digmouse | I'd choose get in some BG and config layouts there |
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| 03:29.42 | SqueeG | Torhal: No worries, I was just going to ask "zomg wtf is happening to volumizer!?!?!?11111oneone" then i read the change log :p |
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| 03:33.13 | NeoTron | hmm is the idea behind LibDropdown-1.0 to solely be controlled using Ace3 config format? |
| 03:33.46 | Torhal | SqueeG: ZOMG because of some tooltips? :) |
| 03:34.02 | Torhal | Oh, because it showed up as updated |
| 03:34.03 | Torhal | Hehehe |
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| 03:57.32 | RaydenUni | is it known that grobbulus often whirls around when he slimes? |
| 03:57.44 | RaydenUni | cause tonight he seems to hit a few people very time |
| 03:57.57 | RaydenUni | but last night when i was tanking him, he never did |
| 03:58.11 | quiesense | blame a healer |
| 04:05.29 | fewyn | yay all raid content clear again for the week |
| 04:05.45 | quiesense | you've finished the game~ |
| 04:07.04 | fewyn | nah we haven't managed 3d sarth yet |
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| 04:07.54 | Dyb | anyone know if there is a way of reducing the volume on the threat sounds (not sure if its from omen or if its a blizzard thing, havent used standard blizzard config in a long time, lol ) |
| 04:11.16 | WobWork | Dyb: you'd have to replace the sound file |
| 04:11.32 | CIA-35 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r4848fd2 10/ (Cork.lua templates/RaidBuffer.lua): When in a raid, condese multi-target spells down into a single line - http://bit.ly/JHZQp |
| 04:11.46 | Dyb | cant just reduce the volume simply? that sucks |
| 04:11.58 | Dyb | which sound file is it, any chance you know offhand? |
| 04:21.02 | WobWork | you'll have to look |
| 04:21.35 | WobWork | and it's just a sound file, there's never going to be antything availble to reduce volume on a single sound file |
| 04:22.01 | WobWork | That's like saying "Oh, I wish my Tabard of the Green Goblin was a little less green" |
| 04:22.41 | WobWork | you can reduce the sound simply by reducing -all- sound simply =P |
| 04:24.20 | quiesense | should be allowed to assign multiple master looters |
| 04:24.22 | quiesense | nodnod |
| 04:25.07 | WobWork | then it's not really masterlooting is it? |
| 04:25.11 | WobWork | it's committeelooting |
| 04:25.32 | quiesense | nono, I mean, any one of them can loot the item |
| 04:26.04 | quiesense | just, like, you could handle more than one item at a time |
| 04:26.24 | quiesense | and you could handle say, a trash drop while the master looter is out of range |
| 04:32.30 | Xinhuan | heh novel idea |
| 04:32.54 | Xinhuan | or to allow 2 MLs to each handle 2 items simultaeneously on a boss that drops 4 items |
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| 05:57.50 | Zhinjio | can y'all see the contents on the middle of this page? http://www.teamveracity.com/index.php?page=raidstatspage |
| 05:58.18 | Zhinjio | I mean, without registering/logging in |
| 05:58.49 | Zhinjio | still ironing out some of the details of the raidstats integration |
| 05:59.34 | Xinhuan | The current plan is to delay Noblegarden should the testing process run long. You should be able to get your week of egg-hunting in. |
| 05:59.36 | Xinhuan | ooh |
| 06:01.34 | Zhinjio | hey, your'e awake. mind taking a look at that link quick |
| 06:01.41 | Zhinjio | see if you get anything in the center column |
| 06:02.08 | End | I guess noblegarden is easier to postpone than other holidays |
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| 06:18.40 | CIA-35 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * rf7f5d09 10/ Config.lua : Make sure all the modules are shown on the config pane - http://bit.ly/12wgb4 |
| 06:18.40 | CIA-35 | cork: 03Tekkub 07master * r30ed570 10/ Config.lua : Clarify a tooltip just a smidge - http://bit.ly/SkjY3 |
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| 06:56.01 | Arrowmaster | week of egg hunting? |
| 06:56.09 | Arrowmaster | wow you mean its no longer a single day |
| 07:03.00 | Shefki | kicks wowace.com again. |
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| 07:17.34 | quiesense | you broke repo! |
| 07:17.46 | Groktar | devours repo's soul |
| 07:17.58 | Groktar | misses CIA- |
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| 07:28.35 | Fisker- | hurts Arrowmaster |
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| 07:32.20 | Groktar | hopes it hurts so good |
| 07:32.52 | Fisker- | cries |
| 07:32.59 | Fisker- | wowmeteronline is sloooooooooooooooow |
| 07:33.14 | sztanpet | and sucks for representing data |
| 07:33.18 | sztanpet | also moo |
| 07:33.19 | Groktar | omg use stasicl and host it yourself |
| 07:34.11 | Fisker- | i am |
| 07:34.33 | Fisker- | But i kinda lol'd when 1 raid was about 1GB :P |
| 07:34.46 | Axodious | but all the KR are using wowmeteronline, it's gotta be for hardcore ppl! |
| 07:34.55 | Fisker- | your mom is hardcore |
| 07:35.01 | Fisker- | in pornography that is |
| 07:35.11 | Axodious | ew, ew ew ew |
| 07:35.24 | Axodious | my mom is 350, 5'8" |
| 07:35.24 | quiesense | moo |
| 07:35.30 | Fisker- | highfives all the successful trolls in the room; thul, Groktar and myself |
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| 07:38.18 | sztanpet | oh, i read that as moons |
| 07:38.27 | sztanpet | that would be sexy too, got hard there for a sec |
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| 07:39.09 | Fisker- | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1236843373067.jpg |
| 07:39.10 | Fisker- | :o |
| 07:39.50 | sztanpet | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1236843310925.jpg whats there to shit bricks at, help me look Fisker- |
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| 07:46.19 | sb|work | morning |
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| 08:11.05 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r178 / (8 files in 2 directories): Added localization for "N/A" on the tooltip. |
| 08:11.08 | Repo | Updated locale files. |
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| 08:44.00 | Repo | 10ner-frames: 03Jncl * r34 options.lua: Bugfix for missing library |
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| 08:47.41 | Repo | 10ner-frames: 03Jncl 04r1.9551.0 * r35 : Tagging as r1.9551.0 |
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| 08:56.34 | pakoz | Is it possible to make a macro exclude some people as possible targets? ie: /cast Taunt [excluding=sartharion,malygos,bob] /cast Hand of Salvation [Excluding=<maintank,someotherperson] Or something like this? |
| 08:57.18 | sztanpet | there is a negation operator but i dont think it works that way |
| 08:57.43 | pakoz | i'll start there |
| 08:58.25 | sztanpet | its just a "no" prepended to the condition |
| 08:58.51 | sztanpet | notarget nomodifier etc |
| 08:58.55 | pakoz | aka [noflying] |
| 08:58.57 | pakoz | ? |
| 08:59.02 | sztanpet | yea |
| 08:59.21 | pakoz | hmph |
| 09:00.17 | sztanpet | http://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Make_a_Macro#Condition_syntax |
| 09:00.20 | sztanpet | might help |
| 09:00.27 | Vangual | only takes valid unitnames tho (and aliases which is why you may see it working of raidmember names sometimes) |
| 09:01.18 | Vangual | s/of/for/ |
| 09:04.07 | pakoz | would that work? |
| 09:04.13 | pakoz | woops |
| 09:04.18 | pakoz | "/cast [target=Sartharion, stopmacro] Taunt" |
| 09:04.21 | pakoz | would that work? |
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| 09:06.37 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:06.49 | nevcairiel | You can only target players in your raid/party by name |
| 09:07.04 | nevcairiel | and stopmacro is not a conditional =P |
| 09:07.13 | quiesense | eh |
| 09:07.19 | pakoz | :( |
| 09:07.19 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.23 | jnwhiteh | then /cast Taunt |
| 09:07.39 | pakoz | the point of the macro is to prevent sarth taunting |
| 09:07.40 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: if i understand his macro, he wants to NOT taunt if sartharion is his target |
| 09:07.42 | pakoz | or salving the MT |
| 09:07.43 | Repo | 10action-combat: 03Sayclub * r76 Locale_koKR.lua: koKR update |
| 09:07.49 | pakoz | or boping the MT |
| 09:07.49 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 09:07.49 | nevcairiel | but thats impossible |
| 09:07.51 | jnwhiteh | that's "too smart" |
| 09:07.54 | pakoz | i see |
| 09:07.59 | jnwhiteh | just.. don't taunt if you're targeting sarth |
| 09:08.01 | Xinhuan | it sucks, but that's the rule |
| 09:08.02 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 09:08.05 | pakoz | my initial question was , is it possible ;p |
| 09:08.07 | pakoz | so no! |
| 09:08.08 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 09:08.09 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 09:08.13 | pakoz | its not me messing up ;x |
| 09:08.18 | pakoz | its my scrub guildies |
| 09:08.31 | Repo | 10huntard: 03Xocide 07master * v0.5-1-gde03038 Options.lua: [+1 commit] Added more options to the config screen. |
| 09:08.36 | Xinhuan | it happens sometimes, when you are just ABOUT to death grip that spark, but someone in the raid kills it that 0.1 second as you cast death grip... and you end up gripping malygos instead (as the game auto targets the nearest thing) |
| 09:08.50 | Xinhuan | (yes it sucks) |
| 09:08.54 | pakoz | last night my holy pally BOPed the MT and i died |
| 09:09.04 | pakoz | tonight, he Salv'd the MT and i died |
| 09:09.08 | nevcairiel | Why would you grip a spark thats already being killed? we grip first,then kill! |
| 09:09.09 | sb|work | uhm |
| 09:09.14 | sb|work | pakoz: kick? :p |
| 09:09.19 | pakoz | heh ;x |
| 09:09.25 | Xinhuan | the deaht knights will just have to learn not to grip anything that can possibly die within the next 3 seconds |
| 09:09.31 | nevcairiel | On another note, as of yesterday i'm immortal =) |
| 09:09.37 | pakoz | well my temp solution was /cast [target=mycharactername] Hand of Salvation |
| 09:09.44 | quiesense | stabs nevcairiel with a pillow. |
| 09:09.48 | pakoz | but i want to replace his salvation button |
| 09:09.50 | Xinhuan | stabs nevcairiel with a pillow |
| 09:09.58 | Xinhuan | jate u |
| 09:09.59 | Xinhuan | hate |
| 09:10.30 | sb|work | you suck nevcairiel! :p |
| 09:10.38 | nevcairiel | obviously, you do! |
| 09:10.39 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 09:11.03 | Xinhuan | actually i don't suck, but my guildies do |
| 09:11.11 | pakoz | on the plus side, on the salv death i got melancholoy sabatons and frosted adroit hanguards |
| 09:11.11 | sb|work | meh.. we have ppl dying from anub damage somehow (swarm i think) because they are too stupid |
| 09:11.13 | quiesense | its their fault |
| 09:11.14 | pakoz | ./dance |
| 09:11.21 | sb|work | so stop telling me about immortal :p |
| 09:11.22 | nevcairiel | sb|work: thats really sad |
| 09:11.25 | sb|work | yes :/ |
| 09:11.43 | Xinhuan | we've only managed heroic: shocking once in the last 4 months |
| 09:11.44 | Xinhuan | i'm sad |
| 09:11.53 | pakoz | are you 'trying' for it each time? |
| 09:12.06 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 09:12.06 | nevcairiel | Are you not trying to survive the damn instance? |
| 09:12.29 | nevcairiel | Immortal isnt so much about "trying", its just concentrating the 2-3 hours it takes |
| 09:12.35 | nevcairiel | like you should be doing anyway |
| 09:12.40 | sb|work | yes... |
| 09:12.41 | pakoz | i hate immortal |
| 09:12.41 | sb|work | thats the point |
| 09:12.44 | pakoz | a d/c |
| 09:12.47 | pakoz | game over |
| 09:12.50 | sb|work | its not about "special stuff to do for achievements" |
| 09:12.53 | Xinhuan | it isn't more so the 2-3 hours it takes, but more about whether someone will random d/c on a critical boss fight |
| 09:12.55 | sb|work | its how you should play all the time |
| 09:12.55 | pakoz | some SHITTY luck, game over |
| 09:12.59 | sb|work | that's the sad part... |
| 09:13.03 | sb|work | *sigh* |
| 09:13.27 | pakoz | we had a MC break a split second before a void zone exploded |
| 09:13.28 | Xinhuan | i admit there are more cases of stupidity deaths than d/c deaths |
| 09:13.29 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: tbh we only ever failed once due to server lag on thaddius, half the raid died .. all the other times random people just messed up, no DCs or anyhting |
| 09:13.33 | Xinhuan | but.. it still happens |
| 09:14.09 | sb|work | well, in 25s raidsetup, there is normally ~10 ppl who want to do AMs, 10 ppl who dont care and 5 ppl who dont want to do any achievement because they just want to have fun blahblah 'after 8h workday.. blahblah' |
| 09:14.13 | sb|work | *sigh* |
| 09:14.14 | Xinhuan | you need to understand i play from asia, and the connection has to travel across about 10x more distance |
| 09:14.30 | Xinhuan | the average ping is 400-500 |
| 09:14.34 | Xinhuan | for everyone |
| 09:14.38 | Xinhuan | in ms |
| 09:14.42 | Repo | 10switchtracker: 03gameldar * r2 / (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 09:14.45 | winkiller | AM=? |
| 09:14.45 | Repo | Initial commit. This is the demo version I created as a proof of concept following discussions on www.wowhead.com |
| 09:14.47 | pakoz | mal'ganis ;x? |
| 09:14.58 | nevcairiel | AM= AchieveMents :P |
| 09:15.01 | winkiller | wtf |
| 09:15.18 | winkiller | (I notice a pattern, saying "wtf" at work already since I arrived) |
| 09:15.23 | Xinhuan | @describe switchtracker |
| 09:15.24 | Repo | Xinhuan: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 09:15.33 | Xinhuan | slaps Repo away with a large trout |
| 09:15.43 | Xinhuan | @project switchtracker |
| 09:15.45 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/switchtracker/. SwitchTracker. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. gameldar (Manager/Author). Updated: 27 seconds ago |
| 09:15.55 | winkiller | bad description |
| 09:16.04 | sb|work | nevcairiel: and i don't know if its worth forcing unmotivated people to do achievements :/ |
| 09:16.05 | nevcairiel | sb|work: our percentage of people that want to do them is a bit higher, we have like 3 in the guild that really "hate" them, maybe a handful that don't care but are still happy to get a free drake |
| 09:16.05 | winkiller | should've told the thread of that discussion >< |
| 09:16.05 | Xinhuan | A simple add-on that allows cycling between different tracking modes at a regular interval. Configuration is done through the Interface->Add-ons. It can be enabled and disabled via chat commands. /strack enable|disable|toggle |
| 09:16.25 | winkiller | sb|work: make them grind AD and Timbermaw, that'll motivate them :P |
| 09:16.37 | Xinhuan | Category: Buffs & Debuffs, Herbalism, Mining |
| 09:16.38 | winkiller | how useless >< |
| 09:16.42 | Xinhuan | i think its obvious what it does now |
| 09:16.43 | Xinhuan | hehe |
| 09:16.48 | winkiller | my druid has ctrl+c macrod to switching |
| 09:16.52 | Xinhuan | except that TrackSW does it better |
| 09:16.59 | Xinhuan | @project tracksw |
| 09:17.00 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/project-14831/. Tracksw. Game: WoW. wowaceSVN (Manager/Author). Updated: 174 days ago |
| 09:17.00 | sb|work | well - other thing is, guess what happens if somebody dies at kel'thuzad void zone |
| 09:17.14 | sb|work | after some flawless naxx run :o |
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| 09:17.20 | winkiller | s/Undying/Undead/ |
| 09:17.22 | sb|work | flamed to death... |
| 09:17.27 | nevcairiel | sb|work: teared and feathered |
| 09:17.41 | nevcairiel | we added a rule for that |
| 09:17.47 | sb|work | and i'm not sure if thats good for raid/guild :) |
| 09:18.03 | nevcairiel | if you fail and its obviously your own fault, you go and buy 2 haris pilton bags and we /random them in the raid |
| 09:18.16 | pakoz | anyone know of a 'death mod' i'm looking for something that announces in raid when someone dies, and possibly keeps track? similar to failbot but for all deaths |
| 09:19.03 | pakoz | oh and saying what the KB was caused by would be awesome |
| 09:19.08 | sb|work | pakoz: there is some recount death counter |
| 09:19.19 | pakoz | i saw that in my wowace search from a few mins ago |
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| 09:19.36 | sb|work | nevcairiel: so its about forcing some people to do those achievements :p |
| 09:19.37 | pakoz | but i'm after something that presents the data a bit more real time |
| 09:20.02 | Xinhuan | deaths can be caused by a lot of things... |
| 09:20.04 | nevcairiel | sb|work: its just a small motivation to pay attention and play like you should anyway |
| 09:20.18 | Xinhuan | lets say you eat a 30k blow, and then die to a 2k meteor from the sky at sarth |
| 09:20.28 | Xinhuan | how would the addon report it "real time"? |
| 09:20.35 | Xinhuan | that the tank died to a 2k meteor? |
| 09:20.51 | nevcairiel | Use something like archeron and look at the last 30s |
| 09:21.05 | quiesense | acheron is a bit buggy for me ): |
| 09:21.07 | Xinhuan | "real time" doesn't really work out |
| 09:21.17 | pakoz | in that scenario that feature of the imaginary mod wouldn't be helpful |
| 09:21.21 | Xinhuan | because an addon can't determine the cause of death |
| 09:21.21 | quiesense | I blame xinhuan |
| 09:21.34 | pakoz | the real time portion i was after was the posting of deaths via raid chat |
| 09:21.52 | Xinhuan | wouldn't raid frames be sufficient |
| 09:22.15 | Xinhuan | if it isn't, then a simple CreateFrame() + register for UNIT_DEATH + report UnitName(arg1) to chat |
| 09:22.19 | Xinhuan | 5 liner addon! |
| 09:22.20 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/manaburn/. Manaburn. Philodoxx (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 09:22.23 | pakoz | and i didnt say cause of death, i said 'what the KB was' |
| 09:22.25 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bestmount/. Mounty. z3dconception (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 09:23.15 | pakoz | my brain doesn't work well for addon making or any programming for that matter :( |
| 09:23.34 | pakoz | i use grid but i'd like to be notified via text |
| 09:23.43 | pakoz | or SCtext |
| 09:24.58 | pakoz | found one! |
| 09:25.03 | pakoz | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10126-DeathNote.html |
| 09:25.07 | pakoz | if anyone is interested |
| 09:26.56 | pakoz | hmm mod has a line that says type='group', |
| 09:27.00 | pakoz | should i change that to raid? |
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| 09:27.08 | pakoz | or does group cover raid? |
| 09:27.45 | nevcairiel | keep it that way :) |
| 09:28.26 | pakoz | kk, thanks |
| 09:28.43 | Arrowmaster | damnit my fan remote is dying |
| 09:29.21 | pakoz | o.O? |
| 09:29.29 | Elkano | pakoz, I use http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/casualty.aspx |
| 09:29.29 | pakoz | they have remotes for fans? |
| 09:29.31 | Arrowmaster | having to press the button really really hard to turn my ceiling fan on sucks |
| 09:29.41 | pakoz | ooh, i use your buff bars |
| 09:29.48 | pakoz | quite an awesome mod |
| 09:29.51 | Elkano | (though I had to fix it for hunter's FD) |
| 09:30.00 | Elkano | thx ^^ |
| 09:30.27 | pakoz | is the one on curse the one with the FD fix? |
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| 09:30.52 | Elkano | I <3 Casualty's sounds: Casualty, Casualties, Mass casualties, Oh dear... |
| 09:31.20 | Arrowmaster | too bad the pre Ace2 version of EBB broke with 3.0 =( |
| 09:31.25 | Elkano | no, I only fixed it for myself, it's not my project and the author said in the comments he'd fix it though he never did |
| 09:31.57 | pakoz | fix up toc, drop svn:externals, add hackish feign death check |
| 09:32.17 | Elkano | Arrowmaster, well, you could have fixed it yourself though I think. only had to substarct GetTime() from the timeleft return and maybe ofset some returns a bit |
| 09:32.50 | Arrowmaster | whenever it was that it broke, it broke majorly |
| 09:33.41 | Arrowmaster | it still used the GetPlayer* api i think |
| 09:33.47 | Arrowmaster | i tried to fix it but gave up |
| 09:34.12 | Arrowmaster | so when are you going to make an ace3 version? |
| 09:34.35 | pakoz | elkano, does your version of casualty go off when pets die? |
| 09:34.56 | Elkano | oh, pakoz, didn't see that version, I still use the old one ^^ |
| 09:35.49 | pakoz | he says in his description that it goes off when pets die, i'm asking if you took that out for your version of the mod |
| 09:37.01 | Elkano | no, I only added a FD check |
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| 09:40.53 | Elkano | pakoz, why do you ask wrt pets? |
| 09:41.44 | Elkano | I think it doesn't trigger for them anymore since the combat log was changed |
| 09:41.58 | Elkano | and if it does, it shouldn't be hard to exclude them |
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| 09:51.48 | pakoz | maybe for you lol |
| 09:52.36 | Mytos | can anyone suggest a good scrolling combat text mod, and a buff mod |
| 09:53.50 | winkiller | msbt |
| 09:54.21 | Mytos | msbt? |
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| 09:55.05 | nevcairiel | !addon mik scrolling battle text |
| 09:55.12 | lua_bot | Found 300 addon results for 'mik scrolling battle text': http://is.gd/n28W |
| 09:55.19 | nevcairiel | stupid search |
| 09:55.38 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info5153-5.3.36.html |
| 09:55.44 | Mytos | how about buffs? |
| 09:56.10 | Grum | that search is broken! |
| 09:56.22 | Mytos | just want something simple that will let me move them, and have them display vertically |
| 09:56.45 | Grum | Mytos: elkbuffbars orso? |
| 09:57.09 | Elkano | vertically? yeah :) |
| 09:57.28 | Mytos | dont really want bars, is there a way i can set it to use icons? |
| 09:58.14 | Elkano | http://mediabeta.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/2398/11479/ebb_minimalistic.png |
| 09:58.30 | Elkano | just disable the bars ^^ |
| 09:58.34 | Mytos | ok |
| 09:58.42 | Mytos | perfect |
| 09:58.45 | Mytos | thanks guys |
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| 10:07.17 | Mytos | i love you elkano |
| 10:07.24 | Mytos | this is perfect |
| 10:07.29 | Elkano | ^^ |
| 10:12.43 | Repo | 10glow-fo-sho: 03boneschaman 06boneschaman * r73 / (8 files in 2 directories): GlowFoSho: |
| 10:12.46 | Repo | - added WotLK enchants |
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| 10:25.21 | Repo | 10glow-fo-sho: 03boneschaman 06boneschaman 04v2.1 * r74 : GlowFoSho: |
| 10:25.24 | Repo | - added WotLK enchants |
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| 10:40.39 | Lywellyn | Anyone know if it's possible to "run" a slash command, such as one created by an addon, inside of a script? |
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| 10:47.03 | nevcairiel | Lywellyn: http://ace.pastey.net/110019 |
| 10:47.11 | nevcairiel | if you didn't find anythign yet |
| 10:47.55 | Lywellyn | *whistles* okay, it's possible. that's cool. but not in a 255 character macro. *sigh* |
| 10:48.02 | Lywellyn | at least, not what I want to do with it. |
| 10:49.03 | haste | vhaarr: pong |
| 10:49.04 | nevcairiel | inside a macro you can just call it directly |
| 10:49.09 | nevcairiel | like any other command |
| 10:49.15 | Lywellyn | true |
| 10:49.32 | Lywellyn | but since I can't use conditionals inside of an addon-created slash command |
| 10:49.40 | Lywellyn | unless you can and I'm not aware how |
| 10:49.50 | nevcairiel | If you write the addon, you can |
| 10:49.51 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 10:49.57 | nevcairiel | The addon has to support it, though |
| 10:50.04 | Lywellyn | hmm. I see. |
| 10:50.25 | Lywellyn | well, for the sake of information, let's assume it doesn't. maybe you can figure out my situation. :p |
| 10:50.41 | Lywellyn | I have a random mount addon. uses slash command /mount. you can specify a category after the command. |
| 10:50.56 | Lywellyn | I want to create a macro that's conditional based on alt/ctrl/shift keypress. |
| 10:51.17 | Lywellyn | if no conditional, use a fast ground mount (/mount Ground). ctrl, use a fast flyer (/mount Flying), and so on |
| 10:51.30 | Lywellyn | I found scripts that can detect if a conditional key is being pressed. go me. |
| 10:51.30 | [Ammo] | you can do that all in a macro can't you |
| 10:51.40 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt know how |
| 10:51.51 | [Ammo] | random cast etc |
| 10:51.52 | Lywellyn | I know it's possible to make a macro with /userandom to summon a random mount |
| 10:51.54 | [Ammo] | but you'd need to specify a list |
| 10:51.57 | Lywellyn | but not when you have 41 mounts. >< |
| 10:52.00 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:52.14 | nevcairiel | I just use two mounts |
| 10:52.35 | Lywellyn | I normally picked four mounts, a fast ground, a fast flyer, and a slow one of each, and made a conditional macro |
| 10:52.38 | nevcairiel | I change my ground mount on a monthly basis or so :D |
| 10:52.46 | Lywellyn | but now that I have so damn many mounts, I wanted a random alternative. xD |
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| 10:53.04 | Lywellyn | maybe I should just stay with that and suggest adding conditional macro support to the author? :p |
| 10:53.23 | nevcairiel | Maybe you should look for an mount addon that allows you to configure that by itself |
| 10:53.28 | nevcairiel | with modifiers down |
| 10:53.28 | nevcairiel | et |
| 10:53.29 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 10:53.37 | [Ammo] | just extend the addon with the otpions |
| 10:53.39 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 10:53.41 | [Ammo] | can't be that hard |
| 10:54.11 | nevcairiel | Yeah you would just wrap the slash handler in a SecureCmdOptionParse |
| 10:54.13 | Lywellyn | nevcairiel: Do you know of such an addon? :p |
| 10:54.23 | nevcairiel | No |
| 10:54.35 | nevcairiel | As i said, i only use two mounts, and my flight form :) |
| 10:54.47 | nevcairiel | All my old mounts are great and all, but my black proto wins |
| 10:55.19 | Lywellyn | hehe |
| 10:55.28 | Lywellyn | well, having just gotten my Black War Bear, I'm showing that one off. :p |
| 10:55.38 | nevcairiel | I think that one is ugly :/ |
| 10:55.40 | Lywellyn | and my good ol' Netherwing Drake until I get the Albino drake. |
| 10:55.51 | [Ammo] | drakes are too big |
| 10:56.03 | nevcairiel | I could probably get the albino if i just traveled around and bought all mounts from all vendors |
| 10:56.05 | [Ammo] | I just use a swift red gryphon on my pala and the undead gryphon on my DK |
| 10:56.17 | nevcairiel | [Ammo]: but its teh faster |
| 10:56.25 | [Ammo] | true |
| 10:56.26 | [Ammo] | shrug |
| 10:56.27 | Torhal | Lywellyn: Get Squire. |
| 10:56.58 | nevcairiel | Also the black proto has to be used now, was a hell of a time getting it |
| 10:57.47 | [Ammo] | I am not that fussed about achieves and faster mounts |
| 10:57.56 | Lywellyn | Torhal: Looks awesome, does it have a "force slow mount" feature? |
| 10:57.58 | [Ammo] | I'll help people get their achievements but shrug |
| 10:58.31 | nevcairiel | Why do you want a slow mount? :D |
| 10:59.25 | Lywellyn | I use a slow mount when I'm with someone that only has a slow mount |
| 10:59.39 | Lywellyn | like I"m going with someone's alt that's not 60 yet, or someone that's has flying, but not epic flying yet. |
| 10:59.48 | Lywellyn | kind of a "I do it out of respect" thing. |
| 11:00.03 | nevcairiel | I just stick at those people and go afk |
| 11:00.12 | nevcairiel | takes too long to pay respect |
| 11:00.12 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 11:00.45 | nevcairiel | I wonder if people seriously do stormpeaks or icecrown on slow-mothion mounts |
| 11:00.50 | nevcairiel | its already huge on a fast mount |
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| 11:01.05 | Torhal | Lywellyn: I believe so, though I am not certain. |
| 11:01.16 | Torhal | I always just hobble with 'em on my epic. |
| 11:02.13 | Xinhuan | hmmm, 7390 nerd points. what should i complete today |
| 11:02.40 | Lywellyn | 7390? jesus. |
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| 11:05.18 | Xinhuan | yeah |
| 11:05.25 | Xinhuan | i have a somewhat above average number |
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| 11:08.27 | sacarasc | Xinhuan: How many Feats of Strength? |
| 11:08.36 | digmouse | I'm totally messed up by PB4 frame sticking to my mouse... |
| 11:08.40 | thul | nevcairiel: i did |
| 11:08.55 | Xinhuan | 27 or something |
| 11:08.57 | nevcairiel | Whats a good pve progressions tracking page these days? with achievements like immortal/maly6min etc |
| 11:09.11 | sacarasc | :o |
| 11:09.28 | Lywellyn | nevcairiel: guild progression or personal progression? |
| 11:09.30 | Xinhuan | feel free to browse |
| 11:09.35 | nevcairiel | guild |
| 11:09.40 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Blackrock&n=Xinhuan |
| 11:09.41 | Lywellyn | then I dunno. :( |
| 11:10.06 | Xinhuan | wowprogress nevcairiel |
| 11:10.16 | nevcairiel | wowprogress seems mighty out of date |
| 11:10.18 | Lywellyn | Torhal: That works quite well, 'cept for the slow mount thing, but I can deal with that. Thank you very much :) |
| 11:10.22 | TreadMark | so many ppl on BR |
| 11:10.26 | Xinhuan | its the only one that tries to track achievements |
| 11:10.29 | Xinhuan | and give them points |
| 11:10.44 | Torhal | Lywellyn: :D |
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| 11:12.22 | orionshock | ok is wowwiki.com borked? |
| 11:12.36 | orionshock | & what is jnwhiteh's site for the wow api? |
| 11:12.38 | sacarasc | Why not ask in #wowwiki ? |
| 11:12.49 | orionshock | sacarasc: this is true.. |
| 11:15.47 | Torhal | orionshock: wowprogramming.com |
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| 11:45.02 | Repo | 10titletronic: 03quantorsht * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 11:45.05 | Repo | Fix some small errors: timer API has changed in Ace3. Make sure to cancel previous timer when scheduling a new one. |
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| 12:02.02 | VonhintenHOME` | wtfserverrestart |
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| 12:20.54 | Repo | - ruRU update |
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| 12:26.30 | Lywellyn | VonhintenHOME`: posted in the realm status, something about a "minor fix" |
| 12:30.43 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r179 Proculas.toc: Fixed a small issue... |
| 12:34.39 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide 041.6.0 * r180 : Tagging as 1.6.0 |
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| 13:03.46 | Kaelten | `g'morning |
| 13:05.39 | Fisker- | herr Kaelten |
| 13:07.59 | SunTsu | Hey Kaelten |
| 13:08.29 | SunTsu | Kaelten: did you read do3mca's and my remarks about mailserver DNS yesterday? |
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| 13:19.53 | Stanzilla | bye bye internet explorer http://www.jcxp.net/news.php?newsid=2650 |
| 13:21.50 | VonhintenHOME` | hello new microsoft exploitware |
| 13:22.19 | VonhintenHOME` | They should just ditch it and work on Firefox |
| 13:22.25 | VonhintenHOME` | Make the world a better place... |
| 13:22.46 | Stanzilla | Firefox sucks, so no. :/ |
| 13:22.59 | VonhintenHOME` | It doesn't suck... |
| 13:23.13 | VonhintenHOME` | But any sucking it does do could be fixed if they fixed it |
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| 13:23.49 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't really understand MS's investment in IE anymore |
| 13:24.48 | VonhintenHOME` | web development is a pain in the ass, even after so many years |
| 13:25.52 | SunTsu | HTML ist taken to uses it has never ever been designed to, so no wonder it sucks |
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| 13:26.41 | VonhintenHOME` | It's mostly CSS that's the pain in the ass now |
| 13:27.16 | VonhintenHOME` | and the odd script differences |
| 13:32.16 | Fisker- | Firefox has more security holes than IE |
| 13:32.19 | Fisker- | fact. |
| 13:32.57 | Megalon | Fisker- has more braincells than insects |
| 13:32.59 | Megalon | fact. |
| 13:33.12 | Fisker- | true |
| 13:33.17 | Megalon | but less than two |
| 13:33.19 | VonhintenHOME` | I just farted and it smelled like fart. |
| 13:33.19 | Megalon | :) |
| 13:33.20 | VonhintenHOME` | fact. |
| 13:33.23 | Fisker- | naww Megalon |
| 13:33.29 | Navv | has SetFrameStrata("PARENT") changed to something else nowadays? |
| 13:33.32 | Fisker- | I got more than firefox users |
| 13:33.37 | Fisker- | doesn't say a lot either though |
| 13:33.43 | Fisker- | Could probably still be less than two |
| 13:34.10 | Megalon | well, everyone has more braincells than firefox users |
| 13:34.20 | Megalon | because an average person has ~14 billion |
| 13:34.33 | Megalon | i don't think there are that many firefox users out there! |
| 13:35.06 | Fisker- | You'd claim it in a heartbeat though |
| 13:35.19 | Fisker- | "400% of all of the internets users are using Firefox!" |
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| 13:37.02 | robotusch | oh u |
| 13:37.42 | krka | how do you know how many security holes each browser has? |
| 13:38.37 | Megalon | A. coun't everything on firefox' bugtraq |
| 13:39.02 | Megalon | B. only count the IE security issues with the highest priority rating from ms |
| 13:39.08 | sztanpet | because theres transparency there |
| 13:39.45 | selckin | if you want security, pull out the cable |
| 13:41.10 | Fisker- | Megalon or: |
| 13:41.27 | Fisker- | A. Look at 3rd party security advisories for Fx |
| 13:41.32 | Fisker- | B. Do the same for IE8 |
| 13:41.39 | Fisker- | C. Compare numbers |
| 13:41.43 | Fisker- | D. ??? |
| 13:41.47 | Fisker- | E. Profit |
| 13:42.30 | Fisker- | IE7 btw :P |
| 13:42.38 | Fisker- | Would be unfair to use IE8 for comparison |
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| 13:43.28 | Fisker- | In any case whoever might have the slight upper hand on fixing security holes, there are even better alternatives than Fx or IE, rendering the argument retarded. |
| 13:44.38 | selckin | use whatever is used the less and you'll be the most secure by that argumentation |
| 13:44.59 | sztanpet | Fisker- successfully trolls :( |
| 13:45.16 | pentium166 | x11 links, activate! |
| 13:45.36 | Fisker- | my point exactly selckin |
| 13:46.06 | robotusch | Lies |
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| 13:51.16 | Xinhuan | hmm |
| 13:51.26 | Xinhuan | does the wowace localization app support keys that aren't strings |
| 13:51.35 | Xinhuan | i want to use integers |
| 13:51.41 | Xinhuan | L[123] = "some string" |
| 13:52.58 | sztanpet | try it |
| 13:53.17 | nevcairiel | You cant, any input is tostring'ed |
| 13:53.47 | Xinhuan | can i use integers though, in Acelocale? |
| 13:54.24 | Xinhuan | looks |
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| 13:54.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:54.37 | nevcairiel | it doesn't care |
| 13:55.10 | Xinhuan | __newindex = function(self, key, value) rawset(registering, key, value == true and key or value) end, |
| 13:55.12 | Xinhuan | excellent |
| 13:55.52 | Xinhuan | i'll cut memory use by half using integers as keys |
| 13:56.07 | nevcairiel | screw memory usage |
| 13:56.26 | Xinhuan | in my case, it makes sense to use integers actually |
| 13:56.33 | nevcairiel | besides, the strings themself are probably alot more memory then the table |
| 13:56.37 | Xinhuan | consider this: |
| 13:56.39 | Xinhuan | LE["Sapphire Spellthread"] = "Spell Power +50 / Stamina +30 (Sapphire Spellthread)" |
| 13:57.11 | Xinhuan | instead if i have LE[41604] = "Spell Power +50 / Stamina +30 (Sapphire Spellthread)" |
| 13:57.20 | Xinhuan | and 41604 is stored someone else |
| 13:57.30 | Xinhuan | {3721, 41604, LE["Sapphire Spellthread"]}, |
| 13:57.34 | Xinhuan | i can just shorten that to |
| 13:57.38 | Xinhuan | {3721, 41604}, |
| 13:58.05 | Xinhuan | so i save a whole string, and a key/value pair |
| 13:58.12 | nevcairiel | thats not a localization thing, more of a design flaw :D |
| 13:58.18 | Xinhuan | well yea |
| 13:58.25 | Xinhuan | 41604 is the itemID in this case |
| 13:58.34 | Xinhuan | and 3721 is the enchantID that that item creates |
| 13:59.29 | Xinhuan | so if i go with integers, i can't use the localization app |
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| 14:01.13 | Xinhuan | my original data structure was so bad it took up a lot of memory |
| 14:01.28 | Xinhuan | my new ones should take less than 1/4 yet hold more information |
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| 14:08.18 | stolenlegacy | i've got a nice idea for a new poll for the website |
| 14:08.34 | stolenlegacy | "Would you like Blizzard to implement a 'Hide Tabard |
| 14:08.37 | stolenlegacy | ' feature" |
| 14:08.59 | stolenlegacy | now that they've made tabards required to gain rep with certain faction |
| 14:09.05 | stolenlegacy | s/faction/factions/ |
| 14:09.15 | stolenlegacy | i really hope they're gonna add this sometime |
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| 14:31.01 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1024 Recount.lua: |
| 14:31.04 | Repo | - Optimized combat state check pulse. Now does absolutely nothing out of combat. Peak load is unchanged but it will now properly reduce load when sync is disabled. |
| 14:31.51 | Xinhuan | Elsia, should put all that effort into writing a new addon ;p |
| 14:32.22 | Elsia | writing a new one will take me a lot more time :P |
| 14:32.41 | Xinhuan | not if you do it as part of a group |
| 14:32.43 | Xinhuan | of authors |
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| 14:35.02 | Elsia | not sure what those authors would be. cryect couldn't find much help for recount2 either ;) skada is a solo effort, I pretty much solo maintain recount etc etc |
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| 14:35.46 | nevcairiel | You have to find authors before you start the project, not after its half-done and you realize you need more people =) |
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| 14:36.48 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 14:36.53 | Xinhuan | that's how gathermate started up |
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| 14:37.32 | Elsia | so you guys are volunteering? ;) |
| 14:37.38 | nevcairiel | not in the least |
| 14:37.43 | Elsia | hehe |
| 14:37.54 | nevcairiel | I have no interest in damage meters |
| 14:38.09 | Xinhuan | i'll be mildly interested |
| 14:38.17 | Xinhuan | if there is a specific vision |
| 14:39.24 | Elsia | i think recount has a specific vision, that's why I try to keep it around, but I know that vision doesn't fit everybody. and it shouldn't |
| 14:40.15 | thul | http://www.flickr.com/photos/froboy/3343598218/sizes/l/in/set-72157614979271411/ <- hha |
| 14:41.46 | Elsia | compare skada/assessment vs recount. for me one of the differences is simply look and feel. It wouldn't make sense to make that converge, that's just a UI level thing, |
| 14:41.52 | Dark_Elf | i use recount, my only issue is the default text at top of windows the pretty little gadgets are on top of the text |
| 14:42.05 | nevcairiel | Personally, i never liked the recount looks |
| 14:42.19 | Elsia | that's fine, it's taste |
| 14:42.25 | Xinhuan | i just think that recount would benefit far better from a full rewrite, than optimizing the legacy code |
| 14:42.29 | Elsia | i like recount better than assessment, but that's just taste too |
| 14:42.37 | harl | -.- |
| 14:43.23 | Elsia | if I had more time I'd rewrite. I don't so I dont ;) iterative changes are more suitable to my schedule than sitting down and writing thousands of lines of code from scratch |
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| 14:43.39 | Elsia | a lot of recount's innards are fine |
| 14:43.55 | thul | lazyia |
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| 14:44.04 | Xinhuan | from your recent optimization, how much fps do you think it has improved? |
| 14:44.06 | SunTsu | stolenlegacy: wouldn't hiding the tabard contradict the whole championing idea from a rp point of view? |
| 14:44.23 | harl | haha |
| 14:44.36 | Elsia | well let me put it like this: AddDamageData (main damage recording call) went from 0.250ms to 0.080ms |
| 14:44.49 | Elsia | stress tests show c |
| 14:44.50 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: you cant really measure anything in fps, depends on system performance and other shit |
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| 14:45.03 | Elsia | that I can handle 50-60 damage events on my laptop without impacting FPS |
| 14:45.09 | Elsia | that's per frame |
| 14:45.28 | Elsia | I consider that acceptable |
| 14:45.43 | Xinhuan | i think 2 days ago, we concluded that an average fight in naxx has about 120 combat log events per second (many of which are discarded) |
| 14:46.00 | Elsia | recount's average CL handling time is faster than skada's, so that's nice for mass buffing etc |
| 14:46.01 | nevcairiel | I'm currently having soem rare lag spikes when multi-person buffs get cast/expire |
| 14:46.22 | Elsia | about half of those are buffs, which recount rejects really efficiently |
| 14:46.23 | nevcairiel | like when a warrior shout expires or sometimes even when i apply a wildgrowth |
| 14:46.30 | nevcairiel | i need to figure out what from <.< |
| 14:46.40 | Elsia | recount's idle combat log time is 0.008ms |
| 14:46.54 | Xinhuan | what does recount do when idling |
| 14:47.07 | harl | i don't experience any kind of spikes, lags, fps dropping, whatever |
| 14:47.20 | Elsia | listen to CL, and keep a basic time pulse, and refresh the main window if needed |
| 14:48.00 | Elsia | main thing to optimize at this point is main window refreshes. Those aren't how I like it yet |
| 14:48.10 | Xinhuan | how are they refreshed right now? |
| 14:48.15 | Elsia | rest I'm fairly happy with modulo some minor things. |
| 14:48.26 | Elsia | scheduled timer at 1 per second |
| 14:48.37 | Xinhuan | how would you like it to be? |
| 14:48.50 | nevcairiel | on demand sounds better =) |
| 14:48.52 | Elsia | that's rather technical |
| 14:49.03 | Xinhuan | we're technical people =) |
| 14:49.18 | Elsia | I don't think that the time pulse is a problem because under heavy load you essentially convere to that.. but the technical point is completely different |
| 14:49.33 | Elsia | question is how to optimally handle data in bars for refreshing |
| 14:49.51 | Elsia | so that update times are minimal for bar rendering |
| 14:50.13 | winkiller | bar.. refreshing.. |
| 14:50.16 | winkiller | wants a drink |
| 14:50.45 | Xinhuan | if its already only refreshing once per sec, is that really a concern? |
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| 14:51.36 | Elsia | recounts main window refresh can take up to 1.2ms, which shouldn't eat a frame but is more than I like. And certainly I haven't touched it for optimizations yet and I know that the way data/memory /sorting is handled isn't exactly how I like it, so I think I can definitely get that down some |
| 14:52.29 | Elsia | well I want it to be as efficient as possible for peak load situations. if it drops a few frames every second that isn't great either. but yeah it isn't a major concern, and certainly not something I'd write a whole new addon about ;) |
| 14:52.44 | harl | wants some good wine and cheese. |
| 14:53.38 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: I'd be interested in your data on Skada's CL processing times, and also in how you gather them |
| 14:53.45 | stolenlegacy | SunTsu: if you like rp, just keep it checked off :) |
| 14:53.47 | Elsia | expo |
| 14:54.13 | Elsia | skada's idle time is excellent excecpt or doublicated CL registrations but that's the nature of how you do modularity |
| 14:54.37 | stolenlegacy | SunTsu: to state a common example, from a rp PoV, you can't carry 50 mounts with you all the time |
| 14:54.41 | stolenlegacy | without even moving slower |
| 14:56.26 | Zarnivoop | neat, I'll have to give Expo a go |
| 14:56.30 | nevcairiel | stolenlegacy: they follow you on a safe distance, when you need them, they run to you |
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| 14:57.00 | nevcairiel | (you couldn't carry _one_ mount :P) |
| 14:59.30 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: you just gave me an idea. when idle, only the main CL is needed. the modules can register on combat start. :) |
| 14:59.32 | Elsia | Zarnivoop: two bugs: one is if you scrollwheel I get an error, hard to reproduce on my macbook now, and the other is that you forgot damage shields/splits |
| 14:59.46 | Elsia | Zarnivoop: makes sense |
| 15:00.01 | krka | so a flying mount follows me around, invisibly, but i can't mount it because it refuses to fly in azeroth? |
| 15:00.27 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: can I have a stack trace of the error when possible? |
| 15:00.48 | Elsia | I'll send you one when I get it, .. don't have a scrollwheel on my laptop right now |
| 15:00.55 | Zarnivoop | cheers |
| 15:02.11 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: what do you mean about damage shields/splits? |
| 15:03.12 | Elsia | DAMAGE_SHIELD and DAMAGE_SPLIT, the first reports stuff like thorns and retri aura, the second are shared damage spells |
| 15:03.31 | Elsia | you don't register these yet so skada misses thorn, retri aura etc damage |
| 15:03.38 | Elsia | format is standard damage args |
| 15:04.25 | Zarnivoop | true |
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| 15:07.23 | SunTsu | stolenlegacy: No, I don't RP, it's just that the basic idea of championing is that you get reputation because you proudly do your deeds in the name of a faction who's tabard you are wearing. So hiding the tabard contradicts the idea to me |
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| 15:07.54 | nevcairiel | I'm already exalted with all citys =( |
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| 15:08.53 | Xinhuan | not everyone RPs ;p |
| 15:09.25 | nevcairiel | the argent tournament thing is really nice, though |
| 15:09.34 | Stanzilla | I rp with nev on the PTR and every emote I do crashs my client :( |
| 15:09.44 | Elsia | yeah I like the horseback duel thang |
| 15:10.12 | SunTsu | Xinhuan: Yeah, it#s just why I don't think Blizz will ever give us a tabard hiding option |
| 15:10.32 | nevcairiel | Oh well, back to replacing sRF with oUF Raid Frames |
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| 15:18.55 | ckknight | hey all, inter-project relationships now show up on the project details page |
| 15:19.51 | thul | what about inter-racial porn? |
| 15:19.59 | thul | or, more like thul-on-fisker porn? |
| 15:20.21 | Xinhuan | inter-project relationships ? |
| 15:21.07 | thul | Xinhuan: i guess addons that interfere with each other |
| 15:21.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/ |
| 15:21.31 | ckknight | see the bottom-right |
| 15:24.03 | Xinhuan | whats E stand for? Embed? |
| 15:24.40 | Xinhuan | External? |
| 15:24.55 | Xinhuan | rEquireddep? |
| 15:24.56 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 15:25.00 | Repo | 10grid2: 03StingerSoft * r83 Options/locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 15:25.04 | ckknight | Xinhuan: hover over it |
| 15:25.07 | nevcairiel | I think Embeded Library is used on the website |
| 15:25.19 | Xinhuan | hm |
| 15:25.25 | Xinhuan | what other relationships are there |
| 15:25.43 | nevcairiel | required |
| 15:25.45 | nevcairiel | optional |
| 15:26.02 | Xinhuan | shouldn't all those Es be Rs then |
| 15:26.16 | nevcairiel | no |
| 15:26.27 | nevcairiel | they are embeded, not required |
| 15:26.41 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/projects/bugsack/ |
| 15:26.45 | nevcairiel | bugsack requires buggrabber |
| 15:26.50 | nevcairiel | and has stuff embedded |
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| 15:27.55 | thul | would you like a Fritzl-Schnitzel? |
| 15:30.21 | Stanzilla | that's mean |
| 15:31.51 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/buffremover/. BuffRemover. crassy (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 15:31.56 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/keql/. Kandarz Extended Quest Log. kandarz (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
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| 15:35.51 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r181 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:35.54 | Repo | Possible fix to the proc cooldown being changed if the proc has a cooldown of 0. |
| 15:39.22 | Zarnivoop | ckknight: an idea to further enhance it - show related addon modules (RecountThreat for Recount, etc). unless it already does, that is. :) |
| 15:39.45 | ckknight | I want to show the reverse eventually |
| 15:39.48 | ckknight | that's harder to compute |
| 15:40.21 | ckknight | if RecountThreat marks itself as requiring Recount, then it would show up on the RecountThreat's page |
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| 15:40.41 | ckknight | and later, once I work out the reverse calculations, it'd show up on Recount's page, too |
| 15:41.25 | nevcairiel | I hope not for embeds |
| 15:41.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:41.42 | Kaelten | well, for like Ace3 it'd be nice to see how many |
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| 15:41.53 | nevcairiel | how many .. sure .. but not a list o.O |
| 15:42.28 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: 3.0 client now final version already? |
| 15:42.38 | Kaelten | pretty close |
| 15:43.03 | nevcairiel | I want to start collecting points already! |
| 15:43.04 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 15:43.24 | ckknight | nevcairiel: it'd be useful to see what projects are using a library. |
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| 15:43.40 | nevcairiel | for some librarys those lists are just too long |
| 15:44.24 | nevcairiel | Create an extra page for the reverse list? |
| 15:45.15 | ckknight | probably will, nevcairiel |
| 15:46.15 | nevcairiel | Kaelten: the new option and description strings are really helpful at explaining the behaviour now, good to have them |
| 15:46.19 | nevcairiel | in the client |
| 15:46.47 | Kaelten | excellent :) |
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| 15:47.30 | nevcairiel | although personally its pretty annoying that i cannot elete my WoW entry |
| 15:47.40 | nevcairiel | because it'll detect it again on next client start |
| 15:47.50 | nevcairiel | *delete |
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| 15:48.10 | nevcairiel | but i guess i'm the only one only testing it in a dummy folder |
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| 16:05.38 | Silowyi | wow I bet that DK is mad... |
| 16:06.12 | Silowyi | bunch of alliance out farming fire in WG |
| 16:06.47 | Silowyi | I see a titanium node nearby, go to get it, there's a horde DK mining it |
| 16:07.05 | Silowyi | so of course I moonfire him (resto druid, lawl) |
| 16:07.30 | Silowyi | he starts to eat my face, but the other alliance guys run over and finish him off |
| 16:07.42 | Silowyi | then while he's laying there dead I mine the node :P |
| 16:08.47 | steev | nice |
| 16:09.14 | steev | i've been sapped before while mining a node, that was annoying |
| 16:10.05 | Silowyi | that would be |
| 16:10.27 | Silowyi | of course I'm for removing sap entirely in pvp :P |
| 16:10.32 | Silowyi | or putting it on an 11 minute cooldown |
| 16:16.30 | Elsia | anyone happen to know what the escape character is for unix grep? |
| 16:16.50 | do3mca | depends? |
| 16:17.00 | Elsia | how to escape .? |
| 16:17.06 | do3mca | \ prolly |
| 16:17.27 | do3mca | you might need to use multiple since the shell may escape already, depending on what youre doing ^^ |
| 16:17.43 | durcyn | you only need a single if you quote it, i.e. grep "\." |
| 16:17.59 | do3mca | wrong |
| 16:18.03 | do3mca | '\.' |
| 16:18.14 | do3mca | "\\." |
| 16:18.23 | Elsia | thanks |
| 16:18.33 | durcyn | both are valid. |
| 16:18.41 | durcyn | thanks for playing though |
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| 16:19.14 | do3mca | durcyn: "" in shell *does* escaping |
| 16:19.16 | do3mca | '' does not |
| 16:19.41 | do3mca | mh. |
| 16:19.52 | do3mca | ohwell, maybe it does. |
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| 16:20.14 | do3mca | escaping stuff in shell to escape stuff in other bins is a pain |
| 16:20.16 | do3mca | ^^ |
| 16:21.02 | do3mca | now, learned that escaping aint expanding. hehe. |
| 16:25.47 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1025 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 16:25.49 | Repo | - Optimized fight data reuse. No longer frees reusable table parts. |
| 16:25.53 | Repo | - Removed localized class strings from combatant structure, as it is unused. This will slightly reduce memory accumulation. |
| 16:25.56 | Repo | - Added some combat log testing to debug. |
| 16:25.59 | Repo | - Made separate debug flag for LazySync which is currently off. |
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| 16:28.36 | Repo | 10buffremover: 03crassy * r2 .pkgmeta: Initial release |
| 16:28.45 | Repo | 10notabene: 03Anadale * r2 / (20 files in 4 directories): NotaBene: |
| 16:28.46 | Repo | - Initial submission |
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| 17:18.48 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1026 Recount.lua: - Fix bug when no fight table is available for reuse. |
| 17:19.55 | Groktar | pounces Repo and chews off his ear |
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| 17:19.56 | Groktar | om nom nom |
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| 17:22.49 | Elsia | anyone happen to have mobIDs of all bosses in libbabble-boss flying around? :P |
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| 17:23.50 | Fisker- | hey ckknight |
| 17:23.52 | Fisker- | i want to kill you |
| 17:23.59 | Elsia | :P |
| 17:24.03 | Fisker- | where do i go about doing that? |
| 17:24.25 | Elsia | slaps Fisker- around with a gigantic half-rotten halibut. |
| 17:24.37 | Hjalte | Elsia: Is there any way to have Recount save more than 5 fights and not get a memory error and lost data when relogging? :) |
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| 17:25.18 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.6.6-beta2-1-gf6aaa1b / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] add trigger-condition "is in group or raid" |
| 17:25.32 | Elsia | Hjalte: that's a blizz issue mostly but I think I can do some little things about that... won't happen very soon though. |
| 17:25.46 | profalbert1 | ulic: there |
| 17:27.44 | Xinhuan | "Added with patch 3.02, âEchoes of Doom,â the Inscription profession allows its practitioners, called "scribes," to enhance the spells and abilities of playersâ characters..." |
| 17:27.51 | Hjalte | Elsia: At least I can watch the data while doing the run. It's just a shame that it dissappears. Maybe you could add a limit to how many fights Recount saves between sessions? - When you have time for it of course, much appreciating the work you're doing now. |
| 17:27.55 | Xinhuan | there straight from blizzard website |
| 17:27.59 | Xinhuan | its SCRIBES |
| 17:28.45 | Elsia | wtb scribe who will trans-scribe mobids of bosses ;) |
| 17:29.36 | Fisker- | your mom |
| 17:29.54 | Xinhuan | ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 17:29.57 | Xinhuan | oop mt |
| 17:30.25 | Elsia | slaps Fisker- around with a gigantic half-rotten your mom. |
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| 17:42.19 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: that should be scriptable, shouldn't it |
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| 17:44.31 | pompy | anyone know what I can use (on a windows machine) to see diffs of things that are on git? |
| 17:47.07 | Gnarfoz | git? |
| 17:47.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:47.48 | Xinhuan | msysgit |
| 17:48.55 | Elsia | hmm how would you script that gnarfoz? |
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| 17:49.30 | Gnarfoz | Elsia: someone ace enough (*cough*) could probably make it search wowhead for the names of the mobs :D |
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| 17:49.52 | Elsia | well I'll be faster doing this manually :P but you may be right otherwise |
| 17:50.19 | Xinhuan | do u know that |
| 17:50.32 | Xinhuan | wowhead has links from an instance |
| 17:50.35 | Xinhuan | to every boss in that instance ;p |
| 17:50.41 | Xinhuan | should take u less than 30 min |
| 17:50.58 | NeoTron | do we have unit id's for ulduar bosses yet? |
| 17:51.00 | Rayden | what are you doing? |
| 17:51.04 | Elsia | that's roughly what I'm doing, except that I also try to stay compatible with whatever is in libbabble-boss |
| 17:51.11 | Xinhuan | even if we do, they could change |
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| 17:52.37 | Gnarfoz | why does libbabble-boss even go by names still? |
| 17:53.07 | Elsia | you do want both |
| 17:53.25 | Gnarfoz | what for, exactly? |
| 17:53.28 | Elsia | some addons just want to localize strings |
| 17:53.34 | Gnarfoz | ah... hm. |
| 17:53.36 | Gnarfoz | right. |
| 17:53.41 | Gnarfoz | does it use both? |
| 17:53.46 | Gnarfoz | obviously not |
| 17:53.47 | Elsia | and some, like me want to link mobid to attribute of the mob :P |
| 17:53.49 | Gnarfoz | or you weren't asking :D |
| 17:53.52 | NeoTron | Xinhuan: I find the chance that the id's will change highly unlikely |
| 17:54.07 | Xinhuan | it can, if they have several versions of a boss |
| 17:54.13 | Xinhuan | that they want to test out on PTR |
| 17:54.38 | NeoTron | have you ever see that happen or are you just speculating how they might try different "variations"? |
| 17:54.47 | NeoTron | seems just as likely tha they would hook other scripts to the same mob to me |
| 17:55.35 | stolenlegacy | NeoTron: agreed |
| 17:55.37 | Stanzilla | patchwork tank test, patchwork dps test :p |
| 17:55.38 | NeoTron | MagicDKP can auto-detect new bosses but I prefer to pre-load it since it can fix some special fights like the council where you have three bosses that can die in any order |
| 17:55.56 | stolenlegacy | but we know how strange blizz thinks sometimes |
| 17:56.17 | NeoTron | I need to hook the three bosses into the same event |
| 17:56.30 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r135 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 17:56.33 | Repo | Fixed the new mob tracking module; obscure error. The localized strings for the two modules were the same, which confused Skada. And me. |
| 17:56.56 | stolenlegacy | @project DrawingBoard |
| 17:56.57 | Repo | stolenlegacy: No project found that matches 'drawingboard' |
| 17:58.03 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: patchwerk! |
| 17:58.45 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: patchwerk stinkt |
| 17:58.58 | Gnarfoz | your spelling, too! |
| 17:58.59 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:59.24 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 17:59.39 | Gnarfoz | <Xinhuan> that they want to test out on PTR <-- there's really no need for PTR boss IDs in there, but there are no IDs at all in there at the moment, is what I surmise from his asking for IDs |
| 18:00.49 | Elsia | Anubisath Defender aren't really bosses :P |
| 18:01.19 | Groktar | liar |
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| 18:04.42 | Elsia | libbabble-boss is fairly generous in it's definition of boss :P if there is many in the room and they don't have an interesting loot table it probably isn't a boss :P |
| 18:05.32 | nevcairiel | Some mobs were added that bigwigs required to detect a boss |
| 18:05.32 | nevcairiel | like adds you kill to make him spawn |
| 18:06.03 | nevcairiel | before we had ids :) |
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| 18:06.37 | nevcairiel | The thing is, you can't really change babble-boss without breaking alot, or adding alot of weird code |
| 18:06.51 | Elsia | k, I'll comment those out that don't fit my definition of boss, others can reactive them as needed if that schtuff ever makes it into a lib |
| 18:07.41 | Xinhuan | well feel free to check ptr.wowhead.com |
| 18:07.46 | Xinhuan | for ulduar mob IDs |
| 18:08.08 | nevcairiel | When do you really need the name of a boss? |
| 18:08.12 | nevcairiel | Only for options i would think |
| 18:08.14 | Elsia | I'm at Ar* so it'll be a while :P |
| 18:08.58 | Xinhuan | i think he just wants a non-babble method to detect that players are in combat with a boss, for the "only keep boss segments" option in Recount |
| 18:09.20 | [Ammo] | then you just check the UnitClassification and some exceptions on ID |
| 18:09.25 | [Ammo] | like Fuegen and stalagg |
| 18:10.20 | Xinhuan | to be honest i would rather feugan and stalagg not appear in my thaddius parse ;p |
| 18:10.43 | Xinhuan | the damage/healing done in that phase is irrelevant |
| 18:10.44 | [Ammo] | depends on your definition of a bossfight |
| 18:10.52 | [Ammo] | if you're doing a speedrun it is |
| 18:11.34 | Elsia | I want to get away without UnitClassification because combat log events can happen without anybody targeting a mob |
| 18:11.51 | Zarnivoop | I second that |
| 18:11.55 | nevcairiel | Elsia: you would be done with a long table of ids without their names then, though =) |
| 18:11.55 | Elsia | that's the whole point of this. I can know if a mob is to be filtered immediately without relying on target scanning |
| 18:12.06 | Elsia | gief :/ |
| 18:12.17 | nevcairiel | I bet wowhead can be persuaded to filter by boss |
| 18:12.22 | nevcairiel | and some scanner script.. |
| 18:12.38 | nevcairiel | Depends on your defintion again |
| 18:12.41 | Elsia | well my guess is that I'm faster doing this by hand because i'm no script whizz... |
| 18:12.45 | nevcairiel | boss = with loot table? or boss = ?? |
| 18:12.52 | Xinhuan | if you can filter by boss, you can probably just "view html source" and do a regex on that |
| 18:13.01 | NivFreak | Elsia: I never did figure out how to get the death report module up, I must be slow |
| 18:13.04 | nevcairiel | they even provide the data in a JS array |
| 18:13.11 | nevcairiel | easy peasy to parse |
| 18:13.17 | Elsia | niv: click the total bar... it's sucky I know |
| 18:13.25 | NivFreak | I don't know what the total bar is :P |
| 18:13.42 | Zarnivoop | Fisker- likes total bars |
| 18:13.52 | Xinhuan | i like chocolate bars better |
| 18:16.14 | Axodious | i like choclate cake |
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| 18:17.22 | Cheads | ~good morning |
| 18:17.23 | purl | Good morning, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 18:17.36 | Cheads | how is that .. "always good morning time" again =) |
| 18:18.20 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: http://www.wowhead.com/?npcs&filter=cl=3 seems to do it |
| 18:18.25 | Elsia | total bar is the bar with index number 0 if you enable the option to show it. I do need a better way to lauch it though |
| 18:19.44 | Elsia | Zarnivoop: good thought but that gives a lot of non-combat relevant mobs like alextrasza |
| 18:20.28 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: still, only 390 entries, not too bad |
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| 18:21.48 | Zarnivoop | the npc IDs on wowhead, do they translate to guids? |
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| 18:21.58 | Elsia | yes |
| 18:22.02 | Elsia | that's the point |
| 18:22.03 | Zarnivoop | excellent |
| 18:22.11 | Zarnivoop | then we only need the IDs saved, really |
| 18:22.17 | Elsia | exactly |
| 18:22.33 | nevcairiel | that brings me back to my question |
| 18:22.38 | Elsia | libbabble-boss as 615 bosses |
| 18:22.41 | nevcairiel | a lvl 82 boss mob in a 5man, no boss? |
| 18:22.52 | Zarnivoop | I'll regexp them down to IDs |
| 18:23.16 | Elsia | I prefer 5-man bosses to be bosses |
| 18:23.28 | Elsia | but blizz ditched their original classification of those :P |
| 18:23.37 | nevcairiel | that wowhead list there doesnt include them, though |
| 18:23.39 | Elsia | mostly for mitigation reasons I think, not so much for organisation |
| 18:23.47 | Elsia | i know |
| 18:23.52 | Elsia | i still work with libbabble-boss |
| 18:24.18 | nevcairiel | If i wouldn't be so lazy, i would try to find a proper filter and some regex to build a full list .. |
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| 18:24.30 | ckknight | hey Fisker- |
| 18:24.41 | ckknight | Fisker-: the best way would probably be ricin poisoning. |
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| 18:26.40 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel, Elsia: LBB does include 5-man bosses, though, does it? |
| 18:26.48 | nevcairiel | it does |
| 18:26.49 | Elsia | it does |
| 18:26.52 | nevcairiel | manually entered |
| 18:26.54 | nevcairiel | all of them |
| 18:26.55 | Gnarfoz | because fight splitting for every instance not just for raids would be awesome some day |
| 18:27.31 | Gnarfoz | so basically we need a regex guy or someone with too much time to add boss IDs to everything in LibBabble-Boss xD |
| 18:27.38 | Gnarfoz | (without breaking anything, too!) |
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| 18:29.49 | ckknight | I think it could be a good idea to be able to reference by ID... |
| 18:29.51 | ckknight | I dunno |
| 18:30.29 | nevcairiel | It would be nice to have a ID -> English lookup, and babble offers the English -> <locale> lookup then |
| 18:31.21 | ckknight | hmm |
| 18:31.45 | ckknight | yea, and a helper could be written to automatically give an ID -> Locale |
| 18:32.07 | Zarnivoop | wowhead in other lingos translate the mob names as well :) |
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| 18:32.14 | nevcairiel | We can't really get the id in babble, not without destroying all the comfort with the locale app on wowace |
| 18:32.24 | Elsia | here is how this currently looks: |
| 18:32.30 | Elsia | [11382] = "Bloodlord Mandokir", |
| 18:32.38 | nevcairiel | yeah, its a table =P |
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| 18:33.03 | Elsia | if anybody needs reverse lookup they can easily construct it once done |
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| 18:34.31 | Kuja^ | ~ugt |
| 18:34.32 | purl | [ugt] Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 18:34.36 | Kuja^ | Cheads: ^ |
| 18:35.25 | Pneumatus | i wrote a script i used on ARL to look english strings up on wowhead and convert them to other languages, so getting it to lookup bossname -> id is already done :o |
| 18:37.51 | Elsia | gief? i.e. feed libbabble-boss and gief IDs? |
| 18:38.19 | Elsia | currently at Ca* or 12% doing this by hand |
| 18:38.21 | Cheads | Kuja^ thanks |
| 18:38.33 | Pneumatus | ill see if i can run babbleboss enUS keys through it |
| 18:39.08 | ckknight | well, one name can map to multiple ids |
| 18:39.11 | ckknight | realize that |
| 18:40.37 | Elsia | baron riverdare only case so far |
| 18:40.37 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: I will regexp it from wowhead in a bit. doing s3d now. |
| 18:40.47 | Elsia | cool, I'll do it manually, we'll see who comes in first :D |
| 18:41.12 | Zarnivoop | knowing my guild - you |
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| 18:56.05 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: ping? |
| 18:56.38 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 18:57.19 | Hirsute | So, on the "Add" routes screen, the code that lists Gatherer information to base the route on, does it live in routes/plugins/Gatherer.lua? |
| 18:57.32 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 18:57.44 | Hirsute | Great, just wanted to make sure before I started looking through it. |
| 18:57.48 | Hirsute | Thanks! |
| 18:58.13 | Xinhuan | the plugins folder contains "plugins" for each addon that we want to be able to draw data from |
| 18:58.43 | Xinhuan | those plugins are deletable and "standalone" as well |
| 18:59.06 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: Great. I figured that was the case. I'm just trying to track down why some of the node types I've gathered aren't listed as possibilities in the list when I try to add a new route. |
| 18:59.25 | Hirsute | Just wanted (to save time) to make sure I was looking in the right files for the code involved. |
| 18:59.32 | Xinhuan | which nodes are these btw? |
| 18:59.53 | Hirsute | Iron is the one I'm noticing right now, but that's just because it's the node type my nublet miner is trying to gather for skillups. |
| 19:00.04 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 19:00.12 | Xinhuan | someone also reported on the Routes thread that iron is missing |
| 19:00.17 | Xinhuan | yesterday i think |
| 19:00.17 | Hirsute | That was me |
| 19:00.23 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 19:00.41 | Xinhuan | in the file, you'll see a few functions |
| 19:00.44 | Elsia | anyone got mobid/guid of flame leviathan? |
| 19:00.55 | Xinhuan | one is a loop that calls a iterator in gatherer |
| 19:01.05 | Xinhuan | to return node data on a map |
| 19:01.28 | Xinhuan | we then compile that info into a table, and return that table |
| 19:01.42 | Hirsute | "for k,v in pairs(Gatherer.nodes.names)" looks like the one I'm looking for, then, yes? |
| 19:01.54 | Groktar | pounces Xinhuan's table and sorts with with bubble sort |
| 19:02.43 | Xinhuan | for node, db_type, count in Gatherer.Storage.ZoneGatherNames(continent, zone) do |
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| 19:02.52 | Hirsute | Yep |
| 19:02.59 | Xinhuan | that loop calls the iterator in gatherer to return node data for the specified zone |
| 19:03.22 | Xinhuan | the internal loop just tries to find a translation |
| 19:03.34 | Xinhuan | and it should exist |
| 19:03.42 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: Yep, that's the one I'm looking at. I'll poke those with a stick and see if I can figure out what's going on. |
| 19:03.44 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't exist, the line 44 would give an error |
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| 19:03.55 | Xinhuan | since translatednode would be nil otherwise |
| 19:04.14 | Hirsute | *nod* Hadn't made it to translatednode yet to see how it handled that case. |
| 19:04.20 | Hirsute | Thanks! |
| 19:05.21 | Pneumatus | Elsia: 33113 |
| 19:05.41 | Elsia | tnx and freya? |
| 19:05.53 | Hirsute | Err... I need to stop and get some lunch. That's a variable, not a function. |
| 19:06.27 | Pneumatus | 32906 |
| 19:06.53 | Pneumatus | http://code.google.com/p/stasiscl/source/diff?spec=svn250&r=250&format=side&path=/trunk/lib/Stasis/LogSplit.pm |
| 19:07.13 | Pneumatus | has a bunch of ulduar boss IDs in |
| 19:07.33 | Elsia | awesome |
| 19:09.11 | Repo | 10proculas: 03Xocide * r182 Core.lua: More changes to the Proc Cooldown detection code. |
| 19:11.33 | Groktar | http://fukung.net/v/659/monopoly-se.jpg |
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| 19:22.12 | NeoTron | http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Games/MagicDKP.shtml ... weird |
| 19:22.51 | genetik- | heh.. you put that there? |
| 19:22.56 | NeoTron | no |
| 19:23.06 | NeoTron | that's why I said weird. :) |
| 19:23.19 | genetik- | 42 downloads |
| 19:23.20 | genetik- | nice |
| 19:24.03 | NeoTron | it's just kind of random place to find wow addons |
| 19:25.01 | genetik- | magicrunes is on there too |
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| 19:27.05 | NeoTron | I wonder where they get that data from |
| 19:27.10 | NeoTron | includes change log entries. hmm |
| 19:27.46 | genetik- | well the download mirror is mediabeta.curse.com |
| 19:27.57 | ShaneSveller | Not sure if he's still active in IRC, but someone (months ago) was telling me all about his gargantuan PC case that had dual PSUs and some ventilation channeling and stuff. Any idea who, or what the case was? I thought it was an Antec or Lian Li, started with a P followed by a few digits |
| 19:28.11 | NeoTron | so from curse |
| 19:28.16 | genetik- | looks like it |
| 19:28.55 | genetik- | http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Games/AutoBar.shtml |
| 19:29.09 | genetik- | another one that looks like it's imported from curse |
| 19:29.29 | NeoTron | BuffEnough is there too so I bet it's pretty comprehensive |
| 19:29.48 | NeoTron | but not universally so. Golden Ticket isn't there |
| 19:29.56 | genetik- | right |
| 19:30.00 | genetik- | bartender4 is there |
| 19:30.12 | NeoTron | the descripton seems to be manually written "WoW addon <something>" |
| 19:31.43 | Xinhuan | choose origin/ptr |
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| 19:35.15 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1027 Recount.lua: - Fix a LibBabble-Boss reference (to be killed asap). |
| 19:38.08 | Xinhuan | Hirsute figured out anything yet? |
| 19:38.46 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: Not yet. I'm not using a computer I can play wow on, however, so I'm looking through Gatherer's code to figure out what the return of that iterator looks like. |
| 19:39.08 | Hirsute | And eating lunch |
| 19:39.16 | Hirsute | So, I'm not being incredibly quick about it. |
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| 19:41.21 | SqueeG | canadian commercials are fucked up :p |
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| 20:05.29 | Hirsute | I hate when I do that. |
| 20:06.01 | Hirsute | Anyhow, Iron Deposits are showing up as an option now. Not sure why I couldn't find them last night. It was... odd. |
| 20:06.40 | SqueeG | I couldn't find the key bind button =D |
| 20:06.54 | SqueeG | And over looked the disabling of text bubble on mouse over in the minimap >.> |
| 20:07.08 | SqueeG | I'm speshul sometimes :) |
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| 20:18.18 | fewyn | Hmmm... I wonder if starfall is really worth it |
| 20:23.03 | Xinhuan | maybe its only for a certain zone Hirsute? |
| 20:23.11 | Xinhuan | i know routes chokes on Ungoro crater |
| 20:23.17 | Xinhuan | maybe you can investigate that too |
| 20:24.09 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: Hrmmm. I'll try to look into it, possible this weekend,regarding the Un'Goro stuff. As far as this case, I checked the same zone that I was trying to create the route in last night. |
| 20:24.18 | Hirsute | Does it only choke on Gatherer data from Un'Goro? |
| 20:24.25 | Hirsute | Or Un'Goro in general? |
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| 20:25.19 | Hirsute | Glad it's working. If I notice the problem again, I'll look into it some more, now that I know what I can do to try to troubleshoot in-game. |
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| 20:28.20 | Xinhuan | it errors in ungoro |
| 20:28.27 | Xinhuan | because of some nodes, possibly the crystals |
| 20:29.58 | sb|work | ls -la |
| 20:30.02 | sb|work | errr.. wrong one |
| 20:30.33 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: That was going to be my suggestion, was the crystals. I think they're handled differently by Gatherer than other nodes. |
| 20:33.08 | Xinhuan | gathermate doesn't even track them |
| 20:33.18 | Xinhuan | the crystal spawn points in ungoro can spawn any of the 4 colors |
| 20:34.14 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: *nod* They're kind of messy. When they've broken in the past though, users have noticed and qq-d pretty quickly with Gatherer, so I think it'll be something Gatherer continues to track. |
| 20:34.44 | Xinhuan | generally speaking, gathermate doesn't track it because it isn't worth tracking |
| 20:34.51 | Xinhuan | like milk crates. |
| 20:35.04 | Xinhuan | who the fuck walks around looking for milk crates anyway? |
| 20:35.32 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: *nod* I don't disagree. However, apparently a lot of users want to see the power crystal locations. |
| 20:37.41 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: I *think* the errors in Un'Goro may be that, instead of by numerical ID, PowerCrystals are stored with textual identifiers by Gatherer, but I'm trying to verify that right now. |
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| 20:41.47 | Hirsute | Nope, maybe not. |
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| 20:48.34 | Xinhuan | does it error for u in ungoro? |
| 20:49.09 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: I haven't been to Un'Goro yet (and am, again, away from the computer that can play WoW). I'll check tonight. |
| 20:49.27 | Hirsute | Is the resulting error posted on in the Routes thread on WoWAce forums somewhere? |
| 20:49.59 | NeoTron | Coralshell Turtle - Summons and dismisses a rideable Coralshell Turtle. This is a very fast mount, both on land and in water. |
| 20:50.38 | Hirsute | NeoTron: That's interesting. |
| 20:51.05 | Xinhuan | not sure |
| 20:51.12 | Xinhuan | was reported a page or two before yours |
| 20:51.18 | Hirsute | I |
| 20:51.20 | NeoTron | tank enchant number two |
| 20:51.21 | NeoTron | Enchant Weapon - Blood Draining *New* - Permanently enchants your weapon to sometimes grant Blood Reserve when striking an enemy or inflicting damage with bleed attacks. When you fall below 35% health, Blood Reserve restores 1750 to 2250 health. This enchantment requires the wielder is at least level 75. |
| 20:51.23 | Hirsute | I'll look. |
| 20:51.31 | NeoTron | or pvp possibl |
| 20:51.42 | Hirsute | Wow. |
| 20:52.44 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 20:52.46 | NeoTron | Frost Presence now reduces damage taken by 5%. (Old - Reduces spell damage taken by 10%) |
| 20:53.02 | Xinhuan | that seems like a buff |
| 20:53.08 | NeoTron | overall yes |
| 20:53.21 | Hirsute | The changes to Def. Stance make me happy. |
| 20:53.22 | NeoTron | doesn't defensive stance reduce all damage by 10% or so though? |
| 20:53.31 | Hirsute | Yay for me levelling in Def. Stance. |
| 20:53.37 | Xinhuan | its also changed to 5% NeoTron |
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| 20:53.47 | Xinhuan | oh wait |
| 20:53.52 | Xinhuan | wrong thing |
| 20:53.55 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: No, the change was to the damage done reduction |
| 20:54.02 | Xinhuan | yeah hmm |
| 20:54.05 | NeoTron | Desecration is now also caused by Scourge Strike. |
| 20:54.08 | NeoTron | ok ... |
| 20:54.19 | Hirsute | On the PTRs, Def. Stance reduces damage taken by 10%, and damage done by 5% (down from 10%) |
| 20:54.24 | NeoTron | now there will be a huge issue speccing for unholy dps sicne desecration actually will be worth taking |
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| 21:00.50 | Xinhuan | Aura Mastery now causes your Concentration Aura to make all affected targets immune to Silence and Interrupt effects and improve the effect of all other auras by 100%. |
| 21:00.51 | Xinhuan | WHAT |
| 21:00.57 | Xinhuan | immune to silence and interrupt? |
| 21:01.12 | genetik- | that's weird |
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| 21:01.37 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: done now, finally. did you get it done? |
| 21:01.59 | Elsia | am at line 612, which means almost done |
| 21:02.07 | Elsia | 24 to go |
| 21:02.28 | NeoTron | ok |
| 21:02.32 | NeoTron | DK set item bonuses up |
| 21:02.37 | NeoTron | they are all good |
| 21:02.40 | NeoTron | wow |
| 21:02.44 | NeoTron | like... nice |
| 21:04.08 | Zarnivoop | Elsia: neat, I won't bother regexping it then. are you making a lib out of it? |
| 21:04.46 | Elsia | it's really just a table, could be a lib I guess |
| 21:04.58 | nevcairiel | the druid bonus is awesome too |
| 21:05.01 | nevcairiel | rejuv with instant heal? |
| 21:05.03 | nevcairiel | give |
| 21:05.22 | ckknight | Elsia: paste the table on paste.wowace.com |
| 21:05.24 | ckknight | once you're done |
| 21:05.31 | NeoTron | I'm just pretty ahppy that the tanking set bonuses make sense |
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| 21:05.48 | Elsia | k, gimme a sec |
| 21:10.17 | Elsia | http://paste.wowace.com/341/ |
| 21:10.51 | Elsia | doh missed chromaggus |
| 21:11.45 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: I'm now fairly certain that the problematic nodes are the Power Crystals. The second return on that function (Gatherer.Storage.ZoneGatherNames()) seems to be returning nil for something, and I'll bet it's the Pcrystals. I'm looking back through the code now. |
| 21:12.29 | Elsia | ok fixed now |
| 21:14.07 | Zarnivoop | I was thinking, the values can be just booleans, as we get the names from CL events anyway. to save memory. |
| 21:15.09 | Elsia | that's fine, I can really easily and quickly convert this into other tables/arrays now |
| 21:15.40 | Elsia | just replace "=" with "= true, --" if you just want bools, or you can even just make it a number array... all possible |
| 21:16.18 | Elsia | I wanted to keep the link mobid->English string though in case anybody wants to go that way without having a combat log event around. |
| 21:17.57 | krka | meh, that's not much memory to worry about anyway |
| 21:18.48 | krka | that's only a couple of kilobytes probably |
| 21:25.48 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: Hrmm. Actually, I'm back at the WoW computer now... this is... puzzling. I'm not finding any nil returns in Un'Goro when I run the function manually. This is... bizaare |
| 21:26.07 | Xinhuan | but it does error in routes? |
| 21:26.18 | fewyn | Anyone know any programs to compare lines in documents to tell me what things have changed? |
| 21:26.24 | Xinhuan | the format nil error is vague though |
| 21:26.31 | Xinhuan | because there's 2 format() calls in that line |
| 21:26.39 | Xinhuan | so you don't really know which variable is nil |
| 21:26.48 | Arrowmaster | ckknight, nevcairiel: do either of you know whats up with the wowace forums and this 'Projects' info line |
| 21:26.49 | Xinhuan | could edit it across 2 lines |
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| 21:27.01 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: what about it? |
| 21:27.10 | ckknight | should be the number of projects you have |
| 21:27.16 | Arrowmaster | why does it only show when im editing a post |
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| 21:27.22 | Xinhuan | its just a link to their project page |
| 21:27.22 | ckknight | Belazor worked on it |
| 21:27.26 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: Yes |
| 21:27.29 | Arrowmaster | and then go away when i submit it |
| 21:27.36 | ckknight | odd |
| 21:27.36 | Hirsute | Same error message that was posted on the forums. |
| 21:27.38 | ckknight | link? |
| 21:27.40 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 21:27.44 | Xinhuan | i see them all the time |
| 21:27.50 | krka | fewyn: diff? |
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| 21:27.59 | Arrowmaster | i only see it when editing |
| 21:28.03 | fewyn | yea i don't like diff |
| 21:28.07 | krka | meld? |
| 21:28.10 | fewyn | looking for something more windows friendly |
| 21:28.17 | TradeMark | tortoisesvn has a nice one |
| 21:28.29 | Arrowmaster | fewyn: winmerge |
| 21:28.39 | Hirsute | Wait... when I get the error, "bad argument #2 to 'format'", is that the second argument, or third? |
| 21:29.06 | Hirsute | Or, more properly, does the numbering start at 0, or 1? |
| 21:29.08 | durcyn | string.format(string, #1, #2) == string:format(#1, #2) |
| 21:29.09 | TradeMark | http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/TortoiseMerge.html |
| 21:29.41 | fewyn | AH HA~! Beyond Compare! |
| 21:29.46 | fewyn | that's what i couldn't remember |
| 21:29.53 | Arrowmaster | thats not free though |
| 21:29.59 | krka | that's a bad explanation durcyn since you're using string for two different meanings |
| 21:30.05 | durcyn | krka: true |
| 21:30.13 | fewyn | Arrowmaster: I bought a licence like 5 years ago haven't really used it since |
| 21:45.22 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r27 Core.lua: |
| 21:45.25 | Repo | Now override LibButtonFacade coloring, thanks to StormFX's hack. |
| 21:50.39 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1028 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:50.42 | Repo | - Stripped out LibBabble-Boss-3.0 again and replaced it with boss-mobid table (that might be a lib eventually) This fixes localization problems re boss detection without unit scanning. |
| 21:50.55 | Repo | 10titletronic: 03quantorsht * r6 Core.lua: Only reschedule the timer if the frequency is > 0. |
| 21:51.02 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: what is stored in the table L in Routes? |
| 21:52.03 | nevcairiel | usually, translated strings =P |
| 21:52.17 | nevcairiel | I should hurt xin if he used a L table for something else |
| 21:52.30 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: I'm assuming this is an Ace thing? |
| 21:52.40 | nevcairiel | not exactly, no |
| 21:52.54 | Hirsute | Okay, I'm just not incredibly familiar with the convention. |
| 21:52.55 | nevcairiel | its more of a convention to use a table named L for locale |
| 21:53.03 | Hirsute | Good to know. |
| 21:53.06 | nevcairiel | i've seen it through all addons |
| 21:53.10 | nevcairiel | ace and non ace |
| 21:53.23 | nevcairiel | i believe even C uses stuff like L"string" |
| 21:53.25 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 21:53.32 | nevcairiel | C++ for tha matter ^ |
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| 21:57.48 | ckknight | L"blah" is a wide string |
| 21:58.30 | ckknight | _ is often used for localization |
| 21:58.32 | ckknight | _("string") |
| 21:58.38 | ckknight | aka. gettext("string") |
| 21:58.44 | ckknight | I've seen other things, though |
| 21:58.52 | ckknight | i18l("string") |
| 21:58.53 | ckknight | and such |
| 21:59.00 | ckknight | i18n* |
| 21:59.25 | nevcairiel | yeah i know that _ is gettext |
| 22:03.06 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r28 Core.lua: Tracking is now handled as a player buff. |
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| 22:27.44 | Elsia | what would be the best way to make the boss mobid table accessible to others? doesn't do anything very function heavy so doesn't sound like it needed to be a lib, also only damage meters and boss mods very likely ever need this. |
| 22:28.20 | ulic | isn't there a lib for that already? Not sure how it works exactly. |
| 22:29.21 | Elsia | there is? |
| 22:29.24 | ulic | LibGUIDRegistry-0.1, not sure what it does exactly. |
| 22:30.09 | Elsia | nah that does something else |
| 22:30.57 | NeoTron | Elsia: and dkp mods! |
| 22:31.09 | Axodious | woo elemental pvp buff |
| 22:31.19 | NeoTron | although I don't quite see why I'd nee any registry |
| 22:31.35 | NeoTron | other than not having to save the English name but just the id |
| 22:31.55 | Torhal | If I needed the boss IDs, I'd just copy the table directly from Recount - no sense libifying it or making it its own addon. |
| 22:32.21 | Elsia | I would like it to be more universaly maintainable |
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| 22:32.38 | Elsia | i.e. one place where people edit changes/fixes and it propagating everywhere where it's used |
| 22:32.42 | Torhal | Use googlecode? |
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| 22:33.39 | Elsia | why is that better than putting it on the wowace repo somewhere? |
| 22:34.09 | Torhal | Doesn't require a TOC and such. |
| 22:34.21 | Torhal | Using a TOC implies standalone Lib or Addon. |
| 22:34.30 | Hjalte | Elsia: Could it be a part of the Knowledge Base maybe? |
| 22:34.46 | Elsia | so there is no way to have projects that are not libs or addons? hmm |
| 22:34.53 | Torhal | Hjalte: Doubtful - that would open the doors for every special case to go in there |
| 22:35.17 | Elsia | see the point is that it integrates into multiple projects without reverting to stone-age copy/pasting |
| 22:35.18 | Torhal | ckknight: ^^ |
| 22:36.08 | ckknight | why can't it be a lib? :P |
| 22:36.11 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 22:36.25 | Torhal | That's exactly what I thought when I saw "integrates into multiple projects" |
| 22:36.42 | Elsia | alright, that's basically what I was asking... let me lib it up then :P |
| 22:36.45 | Torhal | But I'd personally just copy/paste it, myself. It's a table. |
| 22:37.37 | ulic | is it just boss id's? Could it go into LibBabble somehow? |
| 22:37.46 | Torhal | ulic: It's just IDs |
| 22:37.49 | Torhal | Not localization |
| 22:38.08 | ulic | so just a list of known ids huh? |
| 22:38.11 | Torhal | Aye |
| 22:38.52 | Torhal | Lib is overkill but, if the intent is to allow other addons to easily use it, makes sense. |
| 22:39.12 | ulic | and you could still just copy and paste the data from the lib if you wanted your own copy :) |
| 22:39.21 | Torhal | Exactly |
| 22:40.57 | Hirsute | Xinhuan: I found the problem with Routes + Gatherer + Un'Goro. It's because the object number of the node for a Power Crystal is returned by Gatherer.Storage.ZoneGatherNames(), but the string "TREASURE_POWERCRYST" is the value for the power crystals in Gatherer.Nodes.Names, so translatednode is nil for Power Crystals. |
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| 22:44.02 | ckknight | hey, anyone know when hunter pets get talent points? gf wants to know |
| 22:44.45 | Sliker_Hawk | every 6 levels or something like that isn't it? |
| 22:45.16 | Sliker_Hawk | I may or may not be completely misunderstanding |
| 22:45.18 | Sliker_Hawk | and wrong |
| 22:45.27 | fewyn | i think it's every 4 levels |
| 22:45.33 | fewyn | i think |
| 22:45.45 | fewyn | i may be wrong tho, haven't played my hunter since pre-wrath |
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| 22:47.49 | ckknight | first at lvl 20, one more every 4 levels |
| 22:48.17 | fewyn | there we go then |
| 23:06.28 | Arrowmaster | ckknight, nevcairiel: i just made a new detailed post in the irc sticky, if one of you wants to split it from the rest and make it the new sticky so its not 5 pages in that would be nice |
| 23:06.40 | ckknight | on the forum? |
| 23:06.45 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:06.52 | ckknight | lnik |
| 23:06.53 | ckknight | link* |
| 23:06.57 | Arrowmaster | it even includes the super easy link |
| 23:07.03 | Arrowmaster | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?p=269233#post269233 |
| 23:07.14 | Arrowmaster | https://www.mibbit.com/chat/?server=chat.freenode.net&channel=%23WowAce,%23WoWUIDev <-- super easy link |
| 23:07.31 | ckknight | shiny |
| 23:08.03 | ckknight | I'm confused as to how I would do such a thing |
| 23:08.06 | ckknight | I hardly ever go on forums |
| 23:08.52 | Arrowmaster | admins have the ability to split posts into new threads somewhere |
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| 23:19.58 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r52 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: add the new major glyphs for patch 3.1 |
| 23:22.27 | Repo | 10libbossids-1-0: 03Elsia * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): - Initial commit. |
| 23:22.30 | Repo | - This provides a table containing mobIDs of boss mobs as keys. |
| 23:22.33 | Repo | - This allows unit-free detection of bosses from combat log. |
| 23:22.36 | Repo | - Usage: if lib.BossIDs[mobID] then --[[ is boss ]] end |
| 23:24.27 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: i had suggested when 2.4 came out that we make a libbabble-boss-3.1 that used mobids as keys |
| 23:24.43 | Elsia | yeah I wanted that too :P didn't happen back then |
| 23:25.49 | Gnarfoz | what's stopping you from doing it now? |
| 23:26.06 | Elsia | it'll break a gazillion addon I guess |
| 23:26.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:26.19 | Gnarfoz | why? they would have to be upgraded by their authors |
| 23:27.04 | Elsia | let me put this differently... I'm not using babble-boss, stakeholders who do use it should decide these things, not me ;) |
| 23:27.18 | Arrowmaster | i dont know how well trying to do that now would work now that babble libs are managed by the localization system |
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| 23:28.43 | Elsia | the way I see it, people who want to localize boss names for their config UI -> libbabble-boss, people who want to detect bosses from mobids -> libbossid |
| 23:29.09 | NeoTron | going mobid => boss name is valuable |
| 23:29.51 | Elsia | i agree, it would be easy to modify libbossid to return the english mob name rather than true. I have the data for that right in each line's comments. |
| 23:31.10 | Arrowmaster | Elsia: fix your svn client |
| 23:31.18 | Elsia | how is it broken? |
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| 23:31.26 | Arrowmaster | xml files are not executable |
| 23:32.11 | Elsia | not quite sure how to fix that :P |
| 23:32.25 | Arrowmaster | dont use svn:externals either |
| 23:32.47 | Arrowmaster | you didnt set an external in .pkgmeta |
| 23:33.23 | Arrowmaster | and you didnt set svn:keywords on the main lua file |
| 23:34.40 | NeoTron | Elsia: that makes a lot more sense |
| 23:35.00 | NeoTron | actual use lib.BossIds[id] would still work and you'd get the name you display in the ui |
| 23:37.50 | Repo | 10libbossids-1-0: 03Elsia * r3 .pkgmeta: - Externaled libstub in .pkgmeta |
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| 23:48.40 | ckknight | who makes OPie? |
| 23:50.24 | Arrowmaster | foxlit i thought |
| 23:51.25 | ckknight | ~seen foxlit |
| 23:51.49 | purl | foxlit <n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 14m 35s ago, saying: 'I was under the impression that they relaxed it on whining, but perhaps not'. |
| 23:52.25 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r205 / (3 files in 1 directory): RaidBuffStatus: |
| 23:52.28 | Repo | - - One can now buff one's own assigned blessings with alt click although it does not do pets. |
| 23:54.54 | thul | http://fc20.deviantart.com/fs45/i/2009/071/a/6/People_passing_by_by_cainadamsson.jpg |
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