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| 00:10.37 | Repo | Fix typo in LW (Ticket 432), and remove some whitespace which wasn't needed. |
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| 00:17.49 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5054 Ulduar/Kologarn.lua: BigWigs: Kologarn: Add Eyebeam |
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| 00:27.40 | Zhinjio | Torhal: ping |
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| 00:27.54 | Axodious | Zhinjio hows the ui comming! |
| 00:28.10 | Torhal | Zhinjio: pong |
| 00:28.16 | Zhinjio | I think I'm pretty good with it now. |
| 00:28.22 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Aye, I broke your addons. |
| 00:28.28 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 00:28.42 | Zhinjio | ok,I'll go look for the new repo path later |
| 00:29.06 | Torhal | Sorry...the old layout was just...broken. |
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| 00:29.28 | Zhinjio | shrugs. It'll get fixed. I'm not terribly worried about it |
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| 00:30.50 | SqueeG | Anyone know if gathermate_sharing still works? >.> |
| 00:31.07 | Zhinjio | of course, there are others who feel there world is torn asunder because some of their addons don't work now. |
| 00:31.10 | Zhinjio | but. uh... |
| 00:31.12 | Zhinjio | yeah |
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| 00:35.50 | zoktar | lookin for some suggestions for my dk, mainly watching buffs/debuffs, so i can better time my attacks, for example, death and decay wich i would like to have always up, is on 15sek CD, costs 1 frost 1 unholy 1 blood, omnicc however always calculates CD+cd on runes, wich leaves me clueless as to when save runes for its up comming cd, so i either end up not doing anything for a few sek, to save runes for it, and often its still on its 15sek |
| 00:36.46 | NeoTron | zoktar: I know of no such addon but agree it would be nice |
| 00:37.07 | zoktar | basicly only spell i have a prob with sofar |
| 00:37.57 | zoktar | all other buffs debuffs are fine with ones i use, polmonitor, omnicc, magicrunes. |
| 00:39.08 | Groktar | yay for LOOT DAY! |
| 00:42.27 | Zhinjio | anyone know any API calls that return resilience or resilience rating ? |
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| 00:42.46 | Zhinjio | nm, I'll check wowcompares |
| 00:45.51 | Zhinjio | wtf? |
| 00:47.02 | Zhinjio | thats whacked |
| 00:47.32 | Zhinjio | its saying that Resilience is the smalles of CR_CRIT_TAKEN_MELEE, _RANGED and _SPELL |
| 00:51.09 | NeoTron | zoktar: it's something I might add to MagicRunes |
| 01:00.26 | Zyndrome | zoktar , perhaps you should take a look for rFilter2 / sFilter / sFilter2 |
| 01:01.22 | Zyndrome | I use rFilter2 on my DK, to monitor my disease debuffs on the target |
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| 01:08.40 | NeoTron | doesn't sound like what he needs specifically to know whether to sav runes for D&D for example |
| 01:13.08 | Zyndrome | well you can track buffs, debuffs and CDs with it |
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| 01:24.44 | zoktar | cool ill try it out |
| 01:25.32 | zoktar | accually if i keep track of my runes, id just need e separete timer DnD CD |
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| 01:29.19 | Silowyi | so I'm thinking |
| 01:29.55 | Silowyi | a mod that makes fake reports styled like recount DPS reports... and it's a Burn or Win meter. |
| 01:30.10 | Silowyi | Every time someone says something that cracks up the raid you'd type /win Silowyi 1 |
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| 01:30.30 | Zhinjio | so if I register for something like... UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED |
| 01:30.32 | Silowyi | then when you did a report to the raid it would list the current names and totals |
| 01:30.38 | Zhinjio | which fires like 30 times when someone changes gear sets |
| 01:30.43 | Zhinjio | does it throttle at all? |
| 01:30.49 | Zhinjio | or am I just gonna get 30 calls? |
| 01:30.57 | Zhinjio | (I can do my own throttling, of course) |
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| 01:40.56 | Zhinjio | anyone? |
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| 01:48.57 | Arrowmaster | 3.1 gearsets? |
| 01:49.41 | Zhinjio | any inventory changes, honestly |
| 01:49.51 | Zhinjio | but that would be interesting to know as well |
| 01:50.03 | Shefki | 30 times. |
| 01:51.23 | Zhinjio | so here's my conundrum |
| 01:51.35 | Zhinjio | I'd like my code to execute when the events are *done* |
| 01:52.07 | NivFreak | man |
| 01:52.21 | Zhinjio | which means I kinda need to figure out how to recognize once the events have stopped coming in |
| 01:52.21 | NivFreak | I have this warlock that is complaining that hybrids get cheap offspec gear in our loot system |
| 01:52.36 | NivFreak | he thinks this means he's at a disadvantage as a pure dps class... |
| 01:52.42 | NivFreak | in a zero-sum dkp system... |
| 01:52.46 | Zhinjio | NivFreak: tell him to reroll a hybrid and stfu, or go play a different game |
| 01:52.49 | NivFreak | I have |
| 01:53.11 | Zhinjio | I'm so sick of listening to the so-called "pure" dps class people prostletyzing. |
| 01:53.32 | NivFreak | last I checked, zero-sum dkp systems favored pure dps classes |
| 01:53.43 | NivFreak | they tend to end up with more dkp because they don't spend on offspecs |
| 01:54.03 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: due to the nature of events, what you want is obviously impossible, what you need to do is explain what you're actually trying to accomplish |
| 01:54.55 | Zhinjio | I maintain a table (that the user will display on demand in a tooltip) of all their stats... combat, ranged, defense, spell bonuses, etc. |
| 01:55.01 | Zhinjio | these obviously change when gear changes |
| 01:55.14 | Zhinjio | so far, I've just updated them on a (user configurable) timer |
| 01:55.27 | Zhinjio | but it would be nice to update those value when gear changes as well, instead of waiting for the timer. |
| 01:55.40 | Zhinjio | but that code is expensive |
| 01:55.47 | Zhinjio | since it queries alot of data about the character |
| 01:55.56 | Zhinjio | I'd rather not have it execute 30 times all at once |
| 01:55.58 | vhaarr | then you don't really need to wait for the last event, you just need to throttle it or use a bucket system |
| 01:56.56 | Zhinjio | well, what I was thinking just now was to have the receipt of the inventory event start a ... say, 2-3 second timer that would then do the actual work. |
| 01:57.01 | vhaarr | what you do is that when the events fire you just toggle a boolean flag "needsUpdate" or whatever, and on display (i.e. on demand), if the flag is toggled you update the data and reset the flag |
| 01:57.04 | Zhinjio | if I receive another one, it resets the timer. |
| 02:01.24 | vhaarr | Zhinjio: if you need a code example, you can search ClosetGnome.lua for menuNeedsUpdate |
| 02:03.02 | Zhinjio | ok, thanks. I'll take a look |
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| 02:26.54 | Zhinjio | ckknight: ping |
| 02:27.20 | ckknight | Zhinjio: pong |
| 02:27.49 | Zhinjio | I can't seem to disable "combattext" |
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| 02:28.14 | Zhinjio | the Enable checkbox is off, but the text is still showing up |
| 02:31.03 | Zhinjio | nm |
| 02:31.06 | Zhinjio | its another text |
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| 02:49.04 | Ackis | what are common reasons why profiles aren't saved between sessions? |
| 02:49.14 | Repo | 10mill-help: 03Starinnia * r55 Glyphs/Glyphs.lua: -remove the extra line in the glyph tooltips |
| 02:49.38 | Ackis | other than reason 1) ackis is a dumbass |
| 02:50.19 | haste | does 1) include not filling out the TOC correctly? |
| 02:50.28 | haste | or typoing the DB name in the Lua file :D |
| 02:50.48 | Ackis | no clue but I'll check :P |
| 02:51.40 | Ackis | ah no savedvar setting in ToC hah |
| 02:51.57 | haste | :D |
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| 02:59.11 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-67-ge12706a / (6 files in 2 directories): [+10 commits] (6 truncated) |
| 02:59.14 | Repo | e12706a: Comment out options I'm not dealing with now. |
| 02:59.17 | Repo | fcadd51: Add saved vars to the toc. |
| 02:59.20 | Repo | 1f42ef7: Make the filter flags output pretty. I'm so pretty! So pretty! So happy and gay! |
| 02:59.22 | Repo | 55434ad: Lets dump the filter flags as well now |
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| 03:03.24 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i think that falls under '1) ackis is a dumbass' |
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| 03:10.43 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: yes it does |
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| 03:10.59 | Ackis | does silver dragon auto scan for rares? |
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| 03:19.07 | RaydenUni | so i don't get any whispers |
| 03:19.13 | RaydenUni | i get them, but there's no message |
| 03:20.48 | Repo | 10reflux: 03kagaro 041.2-Beta * r8 : Tagging as 1.2-Beta |
| 03:22.03 | Repo | 10reflux: 03kagaro * r9 Reflux.toc: Reflux: commiting .toc changes |
| 03:22.16 | Repo | 10reflux: 03kagaro 041.3-Beta * r10 : Tagging as 1.3-Beta |
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| 03:24.27 | syeren | Hmm, so my sister just connected my Aunt's Laptop to my network, and it seems the only program allowed access to the internet is Internet Explorer, any ideas as how to remedy this? |
| 03:25.52 | RaydenUni | restarted wow and still nothing |
| 03:26.02 | Arrowmaster | syeren: it has a firewall on it? |
| 03:26.12 | syeren | Oh crap, might be Norton or some bullshit. |
| 03:26.15 | syeren | Going checking. |
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| 03:36.58 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r108 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added ability to send a raid message for awarded items. |
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| 03:45.44 | RaydenUni | are there any settings in prat that would make whispers invisible? |
| 03:46.00 | RaydenUni | nm |
| 03:46.05 | RaydenUni | i can't see outgoing whispers either |
| 03:47.05 | TradeMark | there are settings in the default chat interface that could |
| 03:47.20 | TradeMark | right click the tab, go settings, then make sure the "Whisper" is ticked |
| 03:47.24 | TradeMark | channel |
| 03:48.39 | RaydenUni | prat is all sorts of buggy |
| 03:48.52 | RaydenUni | it now does black outline on a section of chat |
| 03:48.56 | RaydenUni | the bottom is normal |
| 03:49.04 | RaydenUni | then about 8 lines of outlined |
| 03:49.07 | RaydenUni | and above that no outline |
| 03:49.56 | RaydenUni | it's not that |
| 03:49.59 | RaydenUni | i get the message |
| 03:50.01 | RaydenUni | just no content |
| 03:50.02 | RaydenUni | like this |
| 03:50.16 | RaydenUni | [W From][80:Petahoof]: |
| 03:50.24 | RaydenUni | and i see no outgoing whispers at all |
| 03:50.58 | TradeMark | oh |
| 03:51.03 | TradeMark | no idea then |
| 03:51.58 | RaydenUni | yeah it's all buggy |
| 03:53.30 | RaydenUni | hopefully it updates soon |
| 03:54.41 | NivFreak | Antiarc: ping |
| 04:00.55 | RaydenUni | i found it |
| 04:00.59 | RaydenUni | DBM updated today and broke prat |
| 04:01.03 | RaydenUni | disable DBM and it works |
| 04:04.03 | Repo | 10ihml: 03Ackis 07master * v2.3-2-g0de01ee / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 04:04.06 | Repo | 0de01ee: Fix the reef cow daily quest. |
| 04:04.09 | Repo | 2b6967d: Add Halaa macro because I'm lazy |
| 04:20.56 | Zhinjio | vhaarr: it looks like CG uses ITEM_LOCK_CHANGED instead of UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED |
| 04:21.02 | Zhinjio | is that considered to be a better option? |
| 04:22.34 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 5b7b29d Modules/Aura/Filter.lua: [+1 commit] Priest and Paladin filter updates from Trollpriest. |
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| 04:31.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5055 Ulduar (4 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 3 lines) |
| 04:31.14 | Repo | BigWigs: Ulduar: |
| 04:31.17 | Repo | - Leviathan: Improve handling of Shutdown. |
| 04:31.20 | Repo | Fix Flame Jet and Add cooldown |
| 04:31.23 | Repo | - Mimiron: Fix spam 'Laser Barrage' |
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| 05:08.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5056 Ulduar/Mimiron.lua: BigWigs: Add missing revision keywords :p |
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| 05:31.57 | Silowyi | so has anyone else noticed GotW having a 100% proc chance for clearcasting? |
| 05:45.56 | Zhinjio | I got my throttler to work. heh |
| 05:46.30 | Zhinjio | it resets the timer to 3 seconds everytime a new inventory change is received, and then executes if it doesn't get one for 3 seconds. |
| 05:46.34 | Zhinjio | 4 seconds. |
| 05:48.03 | Repo | 10fswapper3: 03x87bliss * r11 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 05:48.06 | Repo | Complete rework of logic so that FSwapper doesn't confuse itself with whether or not you were fishing. |
| 05:49.21 | Repo | 10fswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.0.9.3 * r12 : Tagging as v3.0.9.3 |
| 05:50.20 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 17730c7 Modules/DruidManaBar/DruidManaBar.lua: [+1 commit] Fix ticket 276: Druid Mana Bar Text Isuses. |
| 05:53.01 | Repo | 10allstats: 03Zhinjio * r13 / (3 files in 1 directory): - repack for new libqtip pathing |
| 05:53.04 | Repo | - added resilience |
| 05:53.07 | Repo | - added update for gear changes (throttled) |
| 05:54.56 | Axodious | @project allstats |
| 05:54.58 | Repo | Axodious: http://www.wowace.com/projects/allstats/. Broker_AllStats. Game: WoW. Zhinjio (Manager/Author). Updated: 48 seconds ago. Tickets: 3/3 |
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| 06:01.40 | Repo | 10allstats: 03Zhinjio 041.2.1-release * r14 : Tagging as 1.2.1-release |
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| 06:09.13 | iKON_ | is there an api to promote unit to raid assistant? |
| 06:09.57 | Zhinjio | ~api PromoteToAssistant |
| 06:09.57 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_PromoteToAssistant |
| 06:10.14 | Zhinjio | http://www.wowprogramming.com/docs/api/PromoteToAssistant |
| 06:10.51 | iKON_ | thanks |
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| 06:17.38 | digmouse | Which language is Curse Client written in? |
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| 06:18.06 | Groktar | i hate this math class |
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| 06:18.32 | Groktar | the professor set it up so that you can email all students in all the sections at once if you have a problem |
| 06:18.59 | quiescens | sends groktar some spare emails |
| 06:19.07 | Groktar | so every night that an assignment is due i get like 50 "can anyone help me with #3?" emails |
| 06:19.30 | Groktar | they don't even say what they don't understand, or what they've already tried |
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| 06:21.23 | basslingo | if(email.getSubject().contains("help") && email.fromAddress().contains("@someuni.edu")) { email.delete(); } |
| 06:21.28 | basslingo | problem solved ;) |
| 06:22.43 | Groktar | heh |
| 06:23.03 | basslingo | GetNumGuildBankTransactions(tab) is sooooooooo freaking annoying |
| 06:23.57 | basslingo | have to be on the log page to even get it to work |
| 06:36.15 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 2234408 Modules/Aura/Layout.lua: [+1 commit] Fix ticket 269: Mirror auras. |
| 06:39.37 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/status-aura-group/. Grid2StatusAuraGroup. Azethoth (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 06:39.41 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/fswapper3/. FSwapper3. x87bliss (Manager/Author). Approved by Nevcairiel. |
| 06:42.07 | Primer | argh, fucking prat is fucked |
| 06:42.22 | Primer | nothing was updated, but I can't see what people are whispering me, nor can I see what I'm saying to them |
| 06:42.47 | Primer | I've restored my WTF from a backup...same thing |
| 06:43.06 | quiescens | are you on the ptr? |
| 06:43.15 | Primer | I connected to the PTR today |
| 06:43.31 | Primer | since then it's been fucked |
| 06:43.36 | quiescens | I mean like, is that just with the ptr or on live too |
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| 06:43.57 | Primer | no, this is on live |
| 06:44.18 | Primer | but it started since I connected to the PTR for the first time (which I can't imagine is related, but...) |
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| 06:45.28 | Primer | MagicDKP was updated recently, according to curse client |
| 06:45.38 | Primer | as well as DBM |
| 06:45.48 | Primer | no lua errors |
| 06:46.16 | quiescens | I take it the whispers work without prat active |
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| 06:46.50 | iKON_ | the PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED event won't tell me the name/action of the unit that triggered the event? |
| 06:47.09 | quiescens | I don't think so |
| 06:47.19 | iKON_ | hmm |
| 06:47.44 | quiescens | I think its one of the many "something changed, go find out what it is using various api functions" events |
| 06:47.45 | nevcairiel | no it doesnt |
| 06:47.52 | nevcairiel | you need to scan for changes |
| 06:48.51 | Primer | I've not tried the default chat because I can't stand iot |
| 06:48.52 | Primer | it |
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| 06:50.31 | nevcairiel | Primer: its DBMs fault, those morons pushed a release version for 3.1 to curse |
| 06:50.43 | Primer | doh |
| 06:51.04 | nevcairiel | well ok not release version |
| 06:51.12 | nevcairiel | it only affects you if you install beta/alpha with the client |
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| 06:51.44 | quiescens | which of the windows versions technically support 64-bit memory addressing these days? |
| 06:51.59 | nevcairiel | all 64-bit versions? |
| 06:52.30 | quiescens | so which releases have a 64-bit version? |
| 06:52.36 | quiescens | xp and onwards is it? |
| 06:52.37 | nevcairiel | xp and vista, so far |
| 06:52.42 | Chrnotic | seven as well |
| 06:52.58 | nevcairiel | although xp64 was never officially supported and only considered a development version |
| 06:53.29 | nevcairiel | For devs to play on in preparation of vista64 :) |
| 06:53.37 | quiescens | so really just vista |
| 06:53.52 | nevcairiel | well xp64 was still pretty stable and got the same patches the 32-bit version got |
| 06:54.11 | nevcairiel | There is also the server editions, if that counts for you |
| 06:55.33 | Primer | ok, wtf, did they flag this as release? |
| 06:56.42 | nevcairiel | no |
| 06:57.11 | Chrnotic | I guess they were expecting a release this week |
| 06:57.52 | Primer | I uninstalled it, flagged curse to only use release for DBM, and I get the same version |
| 06:58.13 | Primer | uninstalled it and it works |
| 07:01.48 | nevcairiel | Chrnotic: if they were, they are pretty stupid =P |
| 07:03.22 | Chrnotic | Another reason why I stick to BW, adding custom events is pure win |
| 07:04.16 | nevcairiel | I stick to BW because i know the code and can just write new boss mods while learning an encounter .) |
| 07:04.29 | nevcairiel | Also, the authors arent stupid :) |
| 07:04.38 | Chrnotic | duh |
| 07:05.09 | nevcairiel | I remember times in BC where DBM would just steal BigWigs boss mods |
| 07:05.25 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r173 core.lua: |
| 07:05.28 | Repo | add the "Enable Quest Looping" option back into the options table... |
| 07:05.32 | Repo | fix for ticket 10 (www.wowace.com/projects/sick-of-clicking-dailies/tickets/10) |
| 07:06.27 | Chrnotic | damn now I forgot reason why I came here |
| 07:07.04 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 07:20.04 | sb|work | morning |
| 07:21.39 | basslingo | .... any reason why I have to open the guild bank twice before GetGuildBankTransaction(tab, index) will parse the log? |
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| 07:24.29 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r622 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:24.31 | Repo | Use initial-width/height attributes instead of manually setting it to avoid insecure issues on group changes |
| 07:26.56 | basslingo | http://paste.wowace.com/353/ called after the GUILDBANKFRAME_OPENED event |
| 07:27.17 | nevcairiel | Maybe it takes a second to load |
| 07:27.43 | basslingo | thats my guess as well..... just trying to figure out how to delay the reading.... |
| 07:30.22 | sb|work | nevcairiel: there is no big warning "you have to configure srf again when updating!!" :o |
| 07:30.33 | nevcairiel | you don't have to |
| 07:30.40 | nevcairiel | you just have to make sure your profile is set correctly |
| 07:30.44 | sb|work | hmm |
| 07:30.51 | sb|work | oops :) |
| 07:31.05 | nevcairiel | also, changing profile isnt really working perfectly |
| 07:31.09 | nevcairiel | so /rl after changing it |
| 07:31.35 | sb|work | mh nvm, i did my config again.. |
| 07:32.09 | sb|work | but i still have to re-add all those debuff whitelist entries |
| 07:32.25 | sb|work | (<3 for kel'thuzad frost tombs) |
| 07:32.40 | nevcairiel | I was hoping it would be smart enough to get the profile automatically right |
| 07:32.48 | nevcairiel | but it only works if you had a char/ profile |
| 07:33.41 | sb|work | i think i had a class-profile |
| 07:34.00 | sb|work | have to re-check though |
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| 07:40.02 | nevcairiel | How do i shorten Icebound Fortitude and Unbreakable Armor for the statusbar display? =P |
| 07:41.33 | sb|work | uhm, did you shorten 'Survival Instincts'? |
| 07:41.55 | nevcairiel | not yet |
| 07:42.15 | nevcairiel | I added them a few days ago, and noticed yesterday that the names are too long :D |
| 07:42.59 | nevcairiel | I could just use the "default" acronyms |
| 07:43.20 | nevcairiel | But people might not recognize them |
| 07:43.45 | sb|work | IF / UA? |
| 07:44.07 | nevcairiel | IBF |
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| 07:44.13 | nevcairiel | dunno if people really say UA |
| 07:44.17 | sb|work | no idea ;p |
| 07:44.42 | nevcairiel | for survival instincts i could just say last stand |
| 07:44.46 | nevcairiel | its shorter, and everyone knows :D |
| 07:45.39 | thul | UBRKARM and IFB |
| 07:45.41 | thul | IBF |
| 07:47.02 | sb|work | UBRKARM wtf :) |
| 07:47.28 | nevcairiel | i'll just say Unbreakable |
| 07:49.10 | nevcairiel | just need something for survival instincs, or i'll really go with last stand =P |
| 07:50.18 | sb|work | Survival? |
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| 07:50.39 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r174 / (2 files in 1 directory): remove non-existant even reg in OnEnable |
| 07:50.42 | Repo | add more options for name scanner. |
| 07:51.55 | nevcairiel | Hm the old "Blessing of Protection" was completly replaced by Hand of Protection, right? |
| 07:52.03 | Shefki | Yes. |
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| 07:55.06 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r623 sRaidFrames.lua: Shorten some of the status display strings |
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| 08:01.03 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by Arrowmaster |
| 08:01.41 | Arrowmaster | wow those colors suck when you view history |
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| 08:02.06 | Arrowmaster | way too bright of green for wowace theme |
| 08:03.23 | nevcairiel | Anyone on the fordring PTR right now? I need someone to test some stuff with :D |
| 08:03.34 | NeoTron | so somehow MagicDKP_Client makes recount and other addons bug |
| 08:04.26 | NeoTron | it's like Recount loads up my network messages or something weird |
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| 08:05.15 | basslingo | nevcairiel, about my GetGuildBankTransaction() issue, it was a delayed load issue.... solved with a 1 second acetimer ;) |
| 08:05.40 | nevcairiel | Yeah i figured it would be something like that, the guildbank log takes a second to fill too |
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| 08:07.46 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by Arrowmaster |
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| 08:09.58 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/repository-faq/ by Arrowmaster |
| 08:12.27 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r38 MagicDKP_Client.lua: Some fixes to dkp bidding. |
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| 08:20.30 | Repo | 10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r17 / (5 files in 2 directories): - add in code to show XP/MaxXP(rested) on LDB bar |
| 08:20.33 | Repo | - added totals time played line to tooltip |
| 08:20.37 | Repo | - added zhTW (thanks andy52005) |
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| 08:21.27 | Repo | 10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r11 / (2 files in 1 directory): Changed table recycler until loops can be fixed. |
| 08:22.03 | Repo | 10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r12 Modules/LootMenu/LootMenu.lua: Fixed raid scanning issue |
| 08:22.21 | Repo | 10allxp: 03Zhinjio * r18 Broker_AllXP.lua: - repack for updated libqtip path |
| 08:22.53 | Repo | 10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r13 Modules/DKPBidder (2 files in 1 directory): some random fixes... not stable yet. |
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| 08:23.50 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r624 / (2 files in 1 directory): Rework some internal with secure frame creation |
| 08:27.07 | Repo | 10allxp: 03Zhinjio 041.3.1-release * r19 : Tagging as 1.3.1-release |
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| 08:44.03 | Repo | 10better-bank-log: 03basslingo * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 08:44.05 | Repo | Guild Bank Log now parses correctly. 1 second delay (via AceTimer) used to allow for data to be read to the client. |
| 08:45.29 | [Ammo] | arbitrary delay eh |
| 08:45.30 | [Ammo] | can't you hook the display func? |
| 08:45.41 | vhaarr | that wouldn't be fun, then things could happen to function reliably! |
| 08:45.48 | [Ammo] | aw man |
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| 08:47.05 | basslingo | the timer fix was just to see if it was a delayed issue..... almost 4am here, wanted to push that out before i passed out. |
| 08:48.29 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r625 sRaidFrames.lua: |
| 08:48.32 | Repo | Another small fix to avoid errors when the group changes in combat. |
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| 09:07.44 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Sayclub * r94 Options/locales/koKR.lua: koKR update |
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| 09:21.39 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 6c3a049 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 09:21.41 | Repo | 6c3a049: Have to refresh the groups after changing their shown_when options. |
| 09:21.44 | Repo | 48d29ce: Fix some issues with groups not showing when they should. |
| 09:23.59 | Shefki | pulls out his whip... |
| 09:24.05 | Shefki | cracks his whip at Stanzilla. |
| 09:24.10 | pakoz | fights back |
| 09:24.13 | Shefki | Stanzilla: Get to work ticket master. |
| 09:24.45 | Shefki | I just duped a ticket that's only 8 days old that was a dup of a very old ticket... |
| 09:24.57 | Shefki | So you're slacking man. |
| 09:25.45 | nevcairiel | Failzilla is a slacker by design |
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| 09:26.29 | Megalon | crack your whip to whip his crack! |
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| 09:26.44 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Aren't we all... |
| 09:33.14 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r32 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added support for Localization. Currently only enUS. |
| 09:34.02 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.0.9.4 * r33 : Tagging as v3.0.9.4 |
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| 09:45.14 | Shefki | Anyone here have a priest on PTR? |
| 09:45.33 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla does |
| 09:45.34 | nevcairiel | :P |
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| 09:47.11 | Repo | 10acheron: 03Nevcairiel * r78 Acheron.lua: |
| 09:47.14 | Repo | Use table recycling instead of wasting loads of memory in the combatlog handlers. |
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| 09:52.21 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r34 RS3LocenUS.lua: Locale file did not upload. |
| 09:53.29 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss * r35 RSwapper3.toc: New working version. |
| 09:53.50 | Repo | 10rswapper3: 03x87bliss 04v3.0.9.5 * r36 : Tagging as v3.0.9.5 |
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| 10:00.47 | JY`_ | ~motd |
| 10:00.48 | purl | In Life, ibot is always logged in as root |
| 10:02.57 | JY`_ | ~wowalert |
| 10:02.58 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 10:16.48 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * 66c6a5a Modules/Aura/Filter.lua: [+1 commit] More Priest aura filtering updates. |
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| 12:27.13 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r92 Locale-enUS.lua: FuBar_ConvergeFu: |
| 12:27.16 | Repo | - Added macros for Malygos (EoE) for healers and dps. |
| 12:27.19 | Repo | - Added announcements for Use Magic and Crazy Ivan. |
| 12:27.22 | Repo | - Added zone alerts for EoE, OS, VoA and Naxxramas. |
| 12:27.39 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r93 FuBar_ConvergeFu.toc: FuBar_ConvergeFu: |
| 12:27.42 | Repo | - Added macros for Malygos (EoE) for healers and dps. |
| 12:27.45 | Repo | - Added announcements for Use Magic and Crazy Ivan. |
| 12:27.48 | Repo | - Added zone alerts for EoE, OS, VoA and Naxxramas. |
| 12:28.00 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r94 changelog.txt: FuBar_ConvergeFu: |
| 12:28.03 | Repo | - Added macros for Malygos (EoE) for healers and dps. |
| 12:28.05 | Repo | - Added announcements for Use Magic and Crazy Ivan. |
| 12:28.09 | Repo | - Added zone alerts for EoE, OS, VoA and Naxxramas. |
| 12:28.26 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 12:28.37 | [draco] | nice |
| 12:30.03 | quiescens | o.o |
| 12:33.58 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant * r95 ConvergeFu.lua: FuBar_ConvergeFu: |
| 12:34.01 | Repo | - Added macros for Malygos (EoE) for healers and dps. |
| 12:34.04 | Repo | - Added announcements for Use Magic and Crazy Ivan. |
| 12:34.07 | Repo | - Added zone alerts for EoE, OS, VoA and Naxxramas. |
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| 12:35.21 | Repo | 10fu-bar_converge-fu: 03Broliant 04v3.38-release * r96 : FuBar_ConvergeFu: Tagging this as a proper release. |
| 12:37.57 | [draco] | l2commit o0 |
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| 12:40.52 | quiescens | the last one was presumably a tag thingy |
| 12:41.41 | [draco] | he still could have done the same with 2 instead of 5 commits |
| 12:47.14 | quiescens | shrugs |
| 12:47.30 | quiescens | isn't that big a deal in this case anyway |
| 12:47.39 | quiescens | would have saved like, 4 lines |
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| 12:53.38 | stavmar | good morning |
| 12:55.05 | stavmar | I am getting this error and it results in none of my FuBar addons from showing up on the screen http://paste.wowace.com/354/ |
| 12:55.57 | [draco] | disable moneyfu |
| 12:56.04 | [draco] | and check if the error is still there |
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| 12:59.34 | stavmar | [draco]: will do |
| 12:59.50 | stavmar | mstav30madmax30 |
| 13:00.11 | [draco] | if that was your account password, I'd change it |
| 13:00.41 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 13:00.45 | Venara|afk | lulz |
| 13:00.49 | Xinhuan | brilliant |
| 13:01.00 | nevcairiel | that happens more often then you might think |
| 13:01.22 | Xinhuan | how do you miss the ********* not appearing though |
| 13:01.27 | Xinhuan | on the login screen |
| 13:01.28 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 13:01.55 | nevcairiel | thats why i play maximized |
| 13:02.03 | nevcairiel | when the window odesnt have focus, it disappears |
| 13:02.04 | [draco] | yeah |
| 13:02.18 | Venara|afk | nevcairiel: yeah, me too :> |
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| 13:04.14 | stavmar | so no errors after turning MoneyFu off, but no Fubar mods loading up sans Routes and Locations Fu.....And yes the password has been changed, I am retarded |
| 13:05.53 | stavmar | I was trying to use button bin, but no text next to the actual "button" is making me not like it as much, sometimes I want to see text there permanently so I can refernce it... |
| 13:08.33 | [draco] | no error, but no fubar addons at all? |
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| 13:11.34 | stavmar | [draco]: I have two showing up but no errors... |
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| 13:11.44 | stavmar | LocationFu and Routes |
| 13:12.06 | Xinhuan | locationfu and routesfu are LibFuBarPlugin-3.0 plugins |
| 13:12.20 | Xinhuan | FuBar2Broker only converts LibFuBarPlugin-2.0 plugins |
| 13:12.36 | Xinhuan | as such, locationfu and routesfu will never get converted, and will only show up on Fubar - and only fubar |
| 13:12.53 | Xinhuan | RoutesFu also has a hard dependency requirement on FuBar |
| 13:13.04 | Xinhuan | so it will not even attempt to load if FuBar is not found |
| 13:13.06 | stavmar | Xinhuan: I also have FuBar2Broker installed but again not seeing errors, FuBar is turned on |
| 13:13.42 | Xinhuan | why do you have both FuBar and FuBar2Broker on |
| 13:13.55 | Xinhuan | it creates extremely violent reactions |
| 13:13.58 | stavmar | I thought I needed both for certain LDB addons to show up on FuBar |
| 13:14.09 | Xinhuan | i think you want Broker2FuBar |
| 13:14.13 | Xinhuan | not FuBar2Broker |
| 13:14.20 | stavmar | OK let me make the change |
| 13:14.43 | Xinhuan | lets just say, that Fubar2Broker doesn't attempt to load itself if FuBar is active |
| 13:15.07 | stavmar | I actually had both F2B and B2F so let me turn off F2B |
| 13:15.24 | Xinhuan | if both are on, they have overriding code not to load if the other is found |
| 13:15.35 | stavmar | and magically you have fixed my issue, thanks again Xinhuan, you are always spot on...THanks |
| 13:16.44 | Repo | 10sraidframes: 03Nevcairiel * r626 sRaidFrames.lua: Refresh some more options when changing the sRF profile |
| 13:18.34 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r175 namescanner.lua: make name scanner work. now it' is easy to localize this :) |
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| 13:32.01 | SunTsu | There is a Fubar-Stub somewhere, exactly for use with Fubar1Broker |
| 13:32.08 | SunTsu | s/1/2/ |
| 13:32.18 | nevcairiel | I think its linked on the F2B project page |
| 13:32.24 | SunTsu | Yeah, it is |
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| 13:40.21 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r22 / (10 files in 5 directories): mainline content updated to r20090318101614 |
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| 13:49.52 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur * r29 BossTactics.lua: BossTactics: |
| 13:49.55 | Repo | - quickfix for channel join problem |
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| 13:50.22 | Repo | 10boss-tactics: 03sorontur 04BossTactics 2.4.1 * r30 : Tagging as BossTactics 2.4.1 |
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| 14:00.01 | Trell_ | @describe BossTactics |
| 14:00.06 | Repo | Trell_: http://www.wowace.com/projects/boss-tactics/. BossTactics. BossTactics improves and simplifies explaining boss tactics in World of Warcraft.Main Features* Tactics for all Raidinstances ingame * Maps for every bosslocation, to show where people have to stand *... |
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| 14:19.37 | Repo | 10reflux: 03kagaro * r11 Reflux.lua: |
| 14:19.41 | Repo | Reflux: added copy/delete profile support and saving of addon state in help |
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| 14:24.41 | Repo | 10reflux: 03kagaro 041.4RC1 * r12 : Tagging as 1.4RC1 |
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| 14:33.43 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r452 / (5 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 14:33.47 | Repo | Cleanup TalentView:Update() and :SetTemplateMode() |
| 14:33.50 | Repo | Fix Base view resizing. Place the points fontstring too. |
| 14:33.53 | Repo | Add a background and border texture to the editbox. |
| 14:33.56 | Repo | Try and calculate the req level for pet templates. |
| 14:34.01 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r61 Core.lua: |
| 14:34.04 | Repo | -try to fix deadly poison updates when envenom is used with more combos than DP stacks (again...) |
| 14:37.53 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v2.0-alpha-3.1-only * r453 : Tagging as v2.0-alpha-3.1-only |
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| 14:49.53 | Repo | 10combo-points-redux: 03Starinnia * r62 Core.lua: -actually make use of the LSM widgets |
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| 15:04.13 | nevcairiel | Vampiric Blood DK talent (in 3.1), the bonus on healing effects is only for the spells the DK uses himself, not incoming heals, right? |
| 15:05.33 | nuoHep | no. it's exactly the same as now. they just changed the cd |
| 15:05.59 | AckisWork | @project Assessment |
| 15:06.00 | nevcairiel | I don't know how its now |
| 15:06.00 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/assessment/. Assessment. Game: WoW. Roartindon (Manager/Author), durcyn (Author), Phanx (Author). Updated: 170 days ago |
| 15:06.06 | nevcairiel | so it does affect incoming heals? |
| 15:06.15 | nuoHep | it affects all incoming heals |
| 15:06.27 | durcyn | AckisWork: don't remind me :( |
| 15:06.43 | nevcairiel | So its blood really the "new" high-end tanking tree? |
| 15:06.57 | AckisWork | durcyn: had a PM from phanx wanted the linky |
| 15:07.25 | durcyn | i keep meaning to work on it :/ |
| 15:07.34 | AckisWork | durcyn: going to make her the "owner" of the project so she can dick with the edit project/repo stuff |
| 15:07.44 | durcyn | oh, cool |
| 15:08.35 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/producer_position/. Producer_Position. Grayal (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
| 15:08.40 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/producer_effect/. Producer_Effect. Grayal (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
| 15:08.45 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/producer/. Producer. Grayal (Manager/Author). Approved by ckknight. |
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| 15:37.07 | AckisWork | nevcairiel: are you the one who broke sraidframes? :P |
| 15:37.23 | nevcairiel | I didnt break it, i made it bettar |
| 15:37.35 | nevcairiel | It has an anti-ackis-mode |
| 15:37.46 | AckisWork | zomg :( |
| 15:38.04 | nevcairiel | whats broken anyway? |
| 15:38.13 | nevcairiel | if your settings seem to be gone, change your profile back |
| 15:38.44 | AckisWork | i updated yesterday and all the sv's were nuked, and then when trying to change from filter by class to by group an error popped up... I did change profiles back and forth but all of them seem nuked |
| 15:39.16 | nevcairiel | You need to /rl after changing a profile, that was never properly implemented =P |
| 15:39.28 | AckisWork | ah ok :P |
| 15:39.33 | AckisWork | well I probably fucked it all anyways |
| 15:39.34 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:39.45 | durcyn | you're using acedb-3 now, why not redraw on the profilechanged callback |
| 15:39.52 | nevcairiel | oh it does |
| 15:40.04 | nevcairiel | but the callback was never properly implemented to refresh all options |
| 15:40.12 | nevcairiel | I think i fixed that today |
| 15:40.14 | nevcairiel | hopefully =P |
| 15:41.35 | nevcairiel | Sadly its impossible to completly port an existing Ace2 DB layout to Ace3 |
| 15:41.49 | nevcairiel | But i did the best i could =P |
| 15:41.52 | AckisWork | are you going to add ldb? |
| 15:41.56 | nevcairiel | It has one |
| 15:42.10 | AckisWork | oh? didn't look through all the options yet :P |
| 15:42.32 | nevcairiel | It has a minimap icon option that controls LibDBIcon |
| 15:42.40 | nevcairiel | but it should as well show up in any other LDB display |
| 15:43.30 | AckisWork | aight will have to look at that... now if only Elkano would do one for EBB ;) |
| 15:43.51 | durcyn | Elkano needs to do a lot of stuff for EBB |
| 15:43.55 | Elkano | get FuBar2Broker and stfu ;) |
| 15:44.22 | AckisWork | NO U |
| 15:44.24 | AckisWork | lol |
| 15:44.34 | sb|work | EBB is ace2, isnt it? |
| 15:44.38 | durcyn | SETGLOBAL delayed_code *cough* |
| 15:44.49 | Elkano | rolls a lie check and scores a 20: I'm doing a lot of stuff currently for the next version which is comming along nicely |
| 15:44.57 | AckisWork | rofl |
| 15:45.25 | sb|work | 20 on a 1-15 scale? :/ |
| 15:45.48 | durcyn | dice overflow! |
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| 15:59.21 | Stanzilla | durcyn: seems like heatsink had a problem with his deDE client. he switched to enGb and now it works :O |
| 15:59.49 | durcyn | Stanzilla: there's no deDE locale, that'd definitely cause babble to go tits up |
| 16:00.07 | Stanzilla | probably |
| 16:00.20 | Stanzilla | can you create a dummy file or so? |
| 16:00.29 | durcyn | yeah, gimme a minute |
| 16:00.38 | durcyn | or copy from enUS |
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| 16:02.31 | Stanzilla | you could use the wowace localization system :P |
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| 16:03.51 | durcyn | if you want that, you have to wait until i'm not on lynx ;) |
| 16:06.09 | Stanzilla | durcyn: I'm not even using it, my friend is. I just thought it could be helpful. he just got this error btw http://pastey.net/110418 |
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| 16:06.37 | ramoz | @project Heatsink |
| 16:06.38 | Repo | ramoz: http://www.wowace.com/projects/heatsink/. Heatsink. Game: WoW. durcyn (Manager/Author). Updated: 17 hours ago. Tickets: 5/5 |
| 16:07.12 | durcyn | that's a default profile key, it shouldn't ever be nil |
| 16:07.25 | durcyn | what's your friend doing over there :< |
| 16:07.47 | Stanzilla | dunno :P |
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| 16:10.38 | Repo | 10heatsink: 03durcyn 07master * 3.0.9.4-release-2-g5ad375a / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 16:10.41 | Repo | 5ad375a: X-Embeds is deprecated, poof. |
| 16:10.45 | Repo | 4a4097a: fix bizarre bug with profile missing defaults |
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| 16:25.43 | Repo | 10closet-gnome: 03Rabbit * r599 ClosetGnome.lua: Commit mostly to repackage for library updates. |
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| 16:34.11 | nevcairiel | vhaarr: which lib update was so important? |
| 16:34.31 | Stanzilla | LibDBIcon |
| 16:34.37 | vhaarr | the libdbicon default bug |
| 16:34.41 | nevcairiel | ah |
| 16:38.15 | Repo | 10trickortreat: 03falconindy 07master * b474f20 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Add glyph scanning for 3.1 in case someone decides to use the ToTT glyph (drycoded) |
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| 16:51.52 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1567 ARLFrame.lua: AckisRecipeList: |
| 16:51.55 | Repo | - sorted wotlk reputation factions from a-z (and minor fixes) |
| 17:02.10 | Zhinjio | g'morning. |
| 17:06.43 | ckknight | morning, Zhinjio |
| 17:06.46 | ckknight | how's life treating you? |
| 17:07.05 | Zhinjio | I have a beautiful daughter, how bad could it be? |
| 17:08.12 | ckknight | horrific. |
| 17:08.24 | ckknight | what if there was the zombie apocolypse occurring? |
| 17:08.27 | ckknight | what then? |
| 17:08.41 | ckknight | stock up on provisions, Zhinjio |
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| 17:11.44 | kenlyric | babies can be used to distract the zombies while you get away |
| 17:11.47 | kenlyric | so it's good either way |
| 17:11.55 | ckknight | okay then |
| 17:11.58 | ckknight | nothing to worry about, Zhinjio |
| 17:14.13 | Elkano | ok, that's what I'd call epic fail ^^ just did 10person archavon but the groups mage decided to go afk in front of the instance... we waited some time and after he didn't come back decided to kill the boss with 9 people... he dropped 2x mage ^^ but since the mage wasn't in the instance... |
| 17:14.34 | Elkano | he came back a few seconds after the boss was dead |
| 17:14.59 | harl | is there an add-on that makes combining/connecting guilds and communication between them easier? |
| 17:15.40 | AckisWork | harl: /join chatchannelforguilds |
| 17:15.41 | AckisWork | lol |
| 17:16.02 | harl | uhm, no. |
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| 17:18.10 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r95 / (2 files in 2 directories): --Add percent type to buffs and debuffs |
| 17:18.14 | Repo | --Add percent handler for them returning the color alpha setting |
| 17:19.19 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r96 Options/GridIndicators.lua: --Show statuses for bar-health-color and bar-heals-color |
| 17:23.27 | Primer | what version of curse client should the general public be using? |
| 17:23.40 | Primer | I'm on 2.0.0.14, and this version installed DBM for 3.1 |
| 17:23.49 | Primer | onto my 3.0.8 install |
| 17:26.43 | Hjalte | Primer: I believe the general public should use 3.0.0.1: http://www.curse.com/client/ |
| 17:26.54 | Primer | thanks |
| 17:27.45 | Hjalte | And also, the authors of DBM decides who to push what builds to. Check that you are only receiving release builds, if you want to make sure you don't receive anything you can't use on live servers. |
| 17:27.48 | Primer | backs up his AddOns directory, just in case |
| 17:28.20 | Primer | Hjalte: yeah, well, I had curse flagged to beta or release...the file has the word "alpha" clearly in its filename...yet, it's flagged as beta |
| 17:28.26 | Primer | on curse.com |
| 17:28.48 | nevcairiel | yeah the DBM guys failed on that |
| 17:29.57 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r97 modules/StatusRange.lua: --Check for frame existence before hiding it |
| 17:30.37 | Primer | I thought that perhaps curse client failed to act on the fact that the file was also flagged for wow 3.1 |
| 17:30.57 | Primer | whereas it's pointing to a directory with 3.0.8 installed |
| 17:31.10 | Primer | I'm guessing that curse client doesn't differentiate |
| 17:33.55 | quiescens | hmms |
| 17:34.11 | Repo | 10fizzle: 03phyber 07master * v1.2.2-1-g58392e0 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Change some code to fix breakage thanks to Blizzard on 3.1 |
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| 17:35.31 | ilovemrdoe | recount's made a huge savedvariable file again |
| 17:35.39 | ilovemrdoe | i don't knwo what causes it |
| 17:35.59 | ilovemrdoe | just ocasionally when i logout wow hangs and i get a 700mb sv file |
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| 17:36.07 | sztanpet | if its on the order of 50-100megs, its normal |
| 17:36.11 | sztanpet | oh damn, thats not |
| 17:37.38 | ilovemrdoe | was 1.3gb last time :p |
| 17:38.32 | phyber | maybe you're imba and just do too much dps |
| 17:39.28 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 07master * 28fbe0d Modules/Totems/Totems.lua: [+1 commit] - Stop messing with frames we're not enabled on. |
| 17:40.33 | Repo | 10fubar_bagfu: 03phyber 07master * v1.1.3-1-gd1eefa7 BagFu.lua: [+1 commit] Ctrl-click will now toggle keyring. |
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| 17:42.37 | harl | the regular Recount reset is good. the huge SV file is evil. |
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| 17:46.56 | phyber | g 42 |
| 17:47.01 | phyber | stabs / key |
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| 18:25.18 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so are there any known issues with AceGUI-3.0? |
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| 18:25.52 | NeoTron | http://www.asgardgames.com/DKP_Client_UI.jpg (background for text input is in the wrong place), http://robit.info/forums/download/file.php?id=49 (dropdown missing entirely) |
| 18:25.59 | NeoTron | or am I don't something really retarded? :P |
| 18:26.13 | NivFreak | we can't see the forum link |
| 18:26.26 | NivFreak | pasty ftw |
| 18:27.25 | NeoTron | pasty can do images? :P |
| 18:27.34 | NivFreak | :) |
| 18:29.08 | NeoTron | http://eongames.com/tmp/dropdown.jpg |
| 18:30.59 | NeoTron | it's weird because everyone is runnign the same client but see different issues |
| 18:31.13 | NeoTron | works for some, some miss the dropdown, some have the background to the input box in a random spot |
| 18:35.35 | NeoTron | I think I know what the mistake is with the background |
| 18:35.44 | NeoTron | I do: CreateFrame("EditBox", nil, frame, "InputBoxTemplate") |
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| 18:36.57 | Xinhuan | bad |
| 18:37.56 | nevcairiel | If you claim its a AceGUI problem, why don't you use acegui? |
| 18:38.21 | nevcairiel | also |
| 18:38.25 | nevcairiel | editboxes require a name |
| 18:38.26 | nevcairiel | or they break |
| 18:38.31 | nevcairiel | like the missing background |
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| 18:38.48 | Xinhuan | ediboxes only require a name if u inherit from a blizz template |
| 18:38.55 | nevcairiel | what he does |
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| 18:41.33 | NeoTron | which means that I likely clobber the names global variables used by typical Blizzard template |
| 18:41.41 | NeoTron | right |
| 18:41.50 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: I actually have custom widgets |
| 18:41.51 | Xinhuan | the point is, the $parentBlah subchildren don't get created |
| 18:42.00 | Xinhuan | if it doesn't have a name |
| 18:42.01 | NeoTron | actually they are created |
| 18:42.06 | NeoTron | but they clobber shit |
| 18:42.10 | Xinhuan | they are, but the names get overwritten |
| 18:42.11 | NeoTron | so they are created as Blah |
| 18:42.13 | NeoTron | right |
| 18:42.23 | NeoTron | that's what I just realized when typing |
| 18:42.50 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: a better question then is why my dropdown sometimes didn't show (which is an ace gui dropdown) |
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| 18:44.17 | nevcairiel | It works reliably in AceConfig .. thats all i know |
| 18:44.32 | nevcairiel | if you can construct me a test case that reliably breaks .. i can check it out |
| 18:45.31 | NeoTron | I got one report where a guy said it broke my MagicDKP AceConfig-based ui |
| 18:45.46 | NeoTron | but I need to check my custom widgets again to see what else I do |
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| 18:54.35 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r39 MDKP_BidDialog.lua: Fixed issues with bid dialog. |
| 18:55.16 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r109 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed issue with DKP input dialog. |
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| 18:57.55 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: the problem is I can't reliably reproduce it myself |
| 18:58.13 | NeoTron | rather I didn't see the at least the issue with the missing dropdown myself |
| 18:58.19 | nevcairiel | Could you reproduce it yourself once? |
| 18:58.26 | nevcairiel | I see |
| 18:59.18 | NeoTron | I did see the background frame issue but that is already figured out and fixed |
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| 18:59.52 | NeoTron | trying to figure out if somehow the same issue caused the dropdown to be anchored badly too |
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| 19:01.31 | NeoTron | http://ace.pastey.net/110426 that is the relevant code from my custom widget constructor |
| 19:01.31 | NeoTron | see anything obviously broken there? |
| 19:02.07 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03Julith 04v0.89 * r83 : Tagging as v0.89 |
| 19:02.24 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:02.30 | Xinhuan | widgetName.."EditBox" can nameclash |
| 19:02.51 | Xinhuan | local editbox = CreateFrame("EditBox", widgetName.."EditBox", nil, frame, "InputBoxTemplate") also has 5 inputs |
| 19:03.09 | NeoTron | ok that's a typo after my fix |
| 19:03.10 | NeoTron | ignore the nil |
| 19:03.43 | NeoTron | and why would the widgetName.."EditBox" nameclash? |
| 19:04.04 | NeoTron | if someone names their widget MDKP_BidDialog1EditBox I just have to deal with it.. |
| 19:04.21 | Xinhuan | well why are you inhertiing from InputBox |
| 19:04.34 | NeoTron | because it's an edit box? |
| 19:04.43 | Xinhuan | well why are you inhertiing from InputBoxTemplate |
| 19:05.25 | Xinhuan | see post 6 in http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15971 |
| 19:05.40 | Xinhuan | the question is whether more than 1 copy of your widget will ever be created |
| 19:06.21 | NeoTron | it won't but the name is unique |
| 19:06.34 | NeoTron | widgetName = Type..counter |
| 19:06.40 | Xinhuan | framelevels matter btw ;p |
| 19:06.43 | NeoTron | and I increment counter |
| 19:06.57 | Xinhuan | there's a lot of code in acegui that adjusts |
| 19:07.01 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:07.02 | Xinhuan | framelevels of subchildren |
| 19:07.13 | NeoTron | so it's possible that the dropdown is invisible because the frame level is wrong? |
| 19:07.17 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:07.25 | NeoTron | but why would it randomly work? |
| 19:07.26 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:07.36 | Xinhuan | if your children aren't in a container object in a .children table |
| 19:07.40 | Xinhuan | it won't get automatically adjusted |
| 19:07.59 | NeoTron | hmm |
| 19:08.51 | NeoTron | man I really hate UI dev :P |
| 19:09.42 | NeoTron | while you're here, what is it GatherMate is doing every 2 seconds? Makes it top my idle (not fighting, just sitting still not moving) cpu use amongs addons except Ace2 (all addons disembedded) |
| 19:09.56 | NeoTron | it's realistically not a problem, just curious |
| 19:10.09 | Xinhuan | nothing at all if you aren't doing anything |
| 19:10.22 | Xinhuan | it just has an OnUpdate that checks your current coords and Facing |
| 19:10.27 | Xinhuan | and updates the icons on the minimap |
| 19:10.29 | Xinhuan | if you moved |
| 19:10.37 | kenlyric | http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs025.snc1/2650_1110017663551_1020132369_2076761_6254740_n.jpg |
| 19:10.44 | kenlyric | children in a container object |
| 19:11.12 | Xinhuan | if your coords didn't change, then nothing happens at all |
| 19:11.13 | NeoTron | I saw cpu spiking every 2 seconds even when not moving |
| 19:11.23 | Xinhuan | Facing only matters if you have minimap rotation on |
| 19:11.43 | NeoTron | kenlyric: hehe |
| 19:11.46 | Xinhuan | turn off CPU profiling? |
| 19:11.50 | Xinhuan | its not meant to be on |
| 19:12.20 | Xinhuan | cpu profiling ends up hooking every single function in every single addon |
| 19:12.24 | NeoTron | I turned it on to see if I could figure out why my fps was low (likely my computer getting into a weird state - restart fixes it) |
| 19:12.49 | Xinhuan | feel free to check the Onupdate look in gathermate\Display.lua |
| 19:12.55 | Xinhuan | it does absolutely nothing if you don't move |
| 19:13.07 | Xinhuan | loop* |
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| 19:14.14 | NeoTron | is it possible that CreateFrame("EditBox, nil, parent, "InputBoxTemplate") would return the same frame reference twice ? should only break all the sub-parts of it right, not the actual top level reference? |
| 19:14.32 | Xinhuan | unsure |
| 19:15.04 | NeoTron | it seems unlikely but it appears people with the missing dropdown issue might be people that had bothj MDKP and MDKP client installed |
| 19:15.15 | NeoTron | and both of them created an editbox with a template without a name |
| 19:15.18 | NeoTron | so they clobbered eachother |
| 19:15.28 | NeoTron | in the background etc department |
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| 19:16.41 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r40 MDKP_BidDialog.lua: Fixed typo in CreateFrame |
| 19:20.53 | Fisker- | you have failed me Zarnivoop |
| 19:21.06 | Zarnivoop | :( |
| 19:21.26 | Fisker- | report module is batshit retarded |
| 19:21.35 | Zarnivoop | how so? |
| 19:21.52 | Fisker- | doesn't report what i tell it to |
| 19:21.59 | Fisker- | also i have to tell it to what i want to report it to |
| 19:22.10 | Fisker- | instead of just something simple like the current mode to raid |
| 19:22.45 | Zarnivoop | mm, it used to pick up the window's current segmenet and mode, but now there are potentially many windows |
| 19:23.08 | Fisker- | it's with only a single window |
| 19:23.20 | Zarnivoop | it's a bit stupid like that, yes |
| 19:24.35 | Primer | wow, liking this new curse client (I was on an old version for a long time) |
| 19:24.50 | Primer | Can it be made to install auctioneer WITHOUT the sliding thing? |
| 19:26.31 | Primer | hrmm, since it's its own addon now, I can just disable it |
| 19:26.47 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r163 Skada.lua: Moved window configuration to main config. |
| 19:27.27 | NeoTron | Zarnivoop: one thing missing in skada reporting is custom channels |
| 19:28.01 | Fisker- | there's that here |
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| 19:28.44 | Zarnivoop | NeoTron: supposed to be there |
| 19:29.18 | NeoTron | maybe I missed it |
| 19:29.35 | NeoTron | I admit though, no harm intended, that skada doesn't yet suffice to my needs |
| 19:29.39 | Zarnivoop | open menu->Report->Channels - not there? |
| 19:29.50 | NeoTron | I don't think I saw the custom ones |
| 19:30.35 | NeoTron | main issue is lack of pet-damage (mainly for Malygos), target breakdown on damage output (to see who underperforms on Sarth 3d10 |
| 19:30.58 | Zarnivoop | pet damage is also supposed to be there |
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| 19:34.48 | Zarnivoop | and target breakdown is also in there |
| 19:35.03 | Zarnivoop | NeoTron: what archaic version are you using? :) |
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| 19:40.18 | NeoTron | err. svn ? :P |
| 19:40.28 | Zarnivoop | not-so-archaic then |
| 19:40.55 | NeoTron | updated the 16th |
| 19:40.59 | Zarnivoop | "Enemy damage done/taken" are the target breakdowns |
| 19:41.16 | harl | what's with my outgoing whispering. i can't seem to see it myself anymore, though it obviously gets sent to my correspondence. |
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| 19:41.59 | NeoTron | probably just missed it |
| 19:42.08 | harl | i've updated a few add-ons today but disabling them didn't bring showing the whispers back |
| 19:44.23 | NivFreak | WIM? |
| 19:44.45 | NivFreak | are you using WIM? |
| 19:44.51 | harl | no, i don't |
| 19:44.52 | NivFreak | spam sentry? |
| 19:44.59 | harl | that i do |
| 19:45.03 | NivFreak | try disabling it |
| 19:45.17 | NivFreak | I've had it conflict with a number of mods, and cause some whipser visability issues |
| 19:45.22 | NivFreak | it ususally classes with WIM for me |
| 19:45.24 | harl | it's not been updated since yesterday and i did see my whispering yesterday |
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| 19:45.36 | NivFreak | chatter or prat get updated? |
| 19:45.39 | harl | no |
| 19:45.45 | harl | and i'm using Cellular |
| 19:45.45 | NeoTron | Zarnivoop: the main issue I have I think is how you hve to click into the display config multiple levels to change something. the ui is a bit conterintuiative |
| 19:45.47 | NivFreak | well that's strange then :P |
| 19:45.57 | quiescens | um |
| 19:45.59 | quiescens | something about dbm |
| 19:46.01 | NivFreak | but I've had lots of issues with spam sentry clashing with random chat related mods |
| 19:46.09 | quiescens | people have been talking about it the past day or so |
| 19:46.16 | NivFreak | nice |
| 19:46.19 | NeoTron | much prefer the recount version where I have one dropdown to select the data to show, one to select the duration to show data for |
| 19:46.20 | quiescens | try it without dbm to verify |
| 19:46.55 | quiescens | (talking to harl btw) |
| 19:46.56 | quiescens | lol |
| 19:47.01 | Zarnivoop | NeoTron: mm, there we have differing taste though |
| 19:47.12 | NeoTron | I understand |
| 19:47.26 | Hjalte | harl: It's the new DBM alpha. |
| 19:47.33 | NeoTron | but just putting it out there. it requires a lot more click (and misclicks are more common) |
| 19:47.54 | Hjalte | harl: Use the "release" version. |
| 19:49.39 | NeoTron | is the alpha by chance for the 3.1 PTR? |
| 19:49.45 | pompy | yes |
| 19:49.54 | NeoTron | yeah then it won't work on live (and vice versa) |
| 19:50.08 | quiescens | what's changed on the ptr anyway? |
| 19:51.26 | NeoTron | parameters to the chat event handler or something I believe |
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| 19:52.10 | harl | ok, thanks. dbm indeed seems to have been the cause of this. forgot to check that since i though i had disabled it anyway. |
| 19:52.12 | durcyn | chat messsage filter event order was fixed. |
| 19:52.27 | durcyn | er args rather |
| 19:52.28 | harl | +t |
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| 20:13.14 | AckisWork | zomg tag it! |
| 20:13.28 | NeoTron | tags AckisWork. You're it! |
| 20:13.31 | Fisker- | AckisWork report in |
| 20:14.02 | harl | omg shoes! |
| 20:14.10 | Fisker- | shut up harl |
| 20:14.42 | harl | never |
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| 20:16.00 | Gnarfoz | Thank you for the new shoooes. |
| 20:17.48 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r454 / (4 files in 2 directories): Separate the glyph frame from talented. |
| 20:17.52 | Repo | Fix the glyph frame update when switching spec. |
| 20:17.54 | Repo | Only show the sparkle for glyphs that are filled. |
| 20:17.58 | Repo | Save the glyph frame position in the profile. |
| 20:22.33 | NeoTron | b |
| 20:23.44 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: so if you RegisterComm(prefix, func) only stuff with your prefix should be sent to func right? |
| 20:23.55 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 20:24.02 | AckisWork | ~wowspell 10675 |
| 20:24.03 | purl | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=10675 http://www.wowdb.com/spell.aspx?id=10675 |
| 20:26.07 | NeoTron | I wonder why the hell installing MagicDKP_Client causes Recount to get errors in its OnCommReceive |
| 20:26.41 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 20:26.47 | nevcairiel | shared prefix? =P |
| 20:26.49 | selckin | its magic |
| 20:29.15 | NeoTron | no Recount uses Recount |
| 20:31.15 | NeoTron | it breaks other addons too |
| 20:31.22 | NeoTron | so I wonder if it's some weird Ace3 conflicts |
| 20:31.30 | NeoTron | MagicDKP_Client isn't exactly what I'd call complex |
| 20:35.11 | Repo | 10ora2: 03Nevcairiel * r655 Participant/Ready.lua: |
| 20:35.14 | Repo | Pass background colors as RGB pair to not require PaintChipsLib. |
| 20:35.39 | vhaarr | wut, I thought I committed that ages ago >< |
| 20:35.40 | vhaarr | thanks nev |
| 20:36.04 | nevcairiel | someone in my guild just sent me an error about candybar yelling |
| 20:36.10 | nevcairiel | and i thought it was fixed |
| 20:36.15 | nevcairiel | so i checked =P |
| 20:37.04 | Groktar | i just saw the list of razorscale's abilties |
| 20:37.07 | Groktar | ODDLY FAMILIAR |
| 20:37.17 | Stanzilla_ | I wish I never told my guildies about that send bug feature of bugsack |
| 20:37.18 | Stanzilla_ | >.< |
| 20:37.29 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 20:38.45 | Stanzilla_ | You recieved 108 Errors from XYZ |
| 20:38.45 | Groktar | what does it do? |
| 20:38.48 | Stanzilla_ | THANKS! |
| 20:40.23 | Chrnotic | Is there any chance that recount is broken? |
| 20:40.42 | NeoTron | yes |
| 20:40.52 | Chrnotic | I tried hitting on a dummy, for 2 minutes, my dps never went above 1k |
| 20:41.09 | Chrnotic | I tried skada and fubar_dps, went around 1.6¨ |
| 20:42.01 | NeoTron | did you use pets and do you combine pet + self in recount? |
| 20:42.12 | Chrnotic | ~I was playing on my rogue |
| 20:42.13 | purl | You was playing on my rogue? |
| 20:42.30 | Chrnotic | no... mine! |
| 20:42.56 | NeoTron | lol |
| 20:43.11 | Gnarfoz | purl saves the day |
| 20:43.24 | Groktar | ~botsnack |
| 20:43.24 | purl | aw, gee, Groktar |
| 20:43.26 | Gnarfoz | Chrnotic: "dps" is a very loose term is probably what the problem is |
| 20:43.59 | Chrnotic | right |
| 20:44.57 | Zarnivoop | indeed - compare damage done instead |
| 20:50.01 | Primer | So what's happening on the wowmatrix front? |
| 20:51.15 | Primer | I have a guildy that just posted to our forums how AWESOME wowmatrix is and I want to tell him to STFU and how much wowmatrix sucks |
| 20:52.41 | TradeMark | uses WoWMatrix |
| 20:52.48 | Chrnotic | CC is actually awesome |
| 20:52.50 | TradeMark | makes things pretty painless |
| 20:53.02 | Primer | except the curse people are trying to block it |
| 20:53.08 | Chrnotic | I remember how it would spit out random builds before |
| 20:53.20 | Primer | or they were discussing it at some point |
| 20:53.27 | TradeMark | I won't pretend it's an awesome piece of software, but they keep their database nice and up to date, and it saves me a lot of time :) |
| 20:53.47 | durcyn | TradeMark: just.. don't. |
| 20:53.49 | Chrnotic | It more resemblens WAU now :o |
| 20:54.13 | TradeMark | maybe curse should make a better client then :rolleyes: |
| 20:54.25 | Chrnotic | speaking of curse, what's with the premium thingie? |
| 20:55.04 | Gnarfoz | TradeMark: you know, you're in the right place (this channel) to make suggestions about what is not "good" with the Curse Client? ^^ |
| 20:55.40 | TradeMark | well I haven't looked at it since they wanted you to pay for it |
| 20:55.43 | Gnarfoz | speaking of which, it currently works really well, I wouldn't know what (except support for other sites, obviously) I'd be missing |
| 20:55.51 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 20:56.07 | Gnarfoz | pay for what now, that's still not gone live |
| 20:56.24 | TradeMark | can you disable the "data collection" and "character profiles" components? |
| 20:56.34 | Gnarfoz | those aren't even components, and yes, you can |
| 20:56.41 | TradeMark | and does it do non-curse addons? |
| 20:56.48 | Gnarfoz | no, it doesn't |
| 20:56.56 | AckisWork | TradeMark: the irony is that you're violating my copyright if you DL via wowmatrix |
| 20:57.10 | TradeMark | how so |
| 20:57.12 | Hjalte | It does wowace though, which it might not have done when you last tried it, TradeMark. |
| 20:57.14 | Gnarfoz | depending on country, of course, but meh |
| 20:57.29 | AckisWork | TradeMark: I've asked them to remove my addons from their list and they refuse to do so |
| 20:57.49 | Gnarfoz | which makes THEM violate it, not him btw |
| 20:57.49 | TradeMark | you make your code available for public download on curse.com, what does it matter what piece of binary code I run on my computer to download it with? |
| 20:57.56 | *** join/#wowace Whitetooth_ (n=chatzill@118-169-197-228.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 20:58.21 | AckisWork | TradeMark: that's the point, I make my code availible on curse, NOT on wowmatrix |
| 20:58.49 | TradeMark | but there's no difference |
| 20:58.55 | durcyn | depending on license, copyright doesn't actually come into play |
| 20:58.59 | TradeMark | it's like if I browse to your addon in my web browser |
| 20:59.09 | durcyn | it's the deep linking and resultant bandwidth theft that's actionable |
| 20:59.20 | TradeMark | or ok how about this |
| 20:59.20 | Gnarfoz | anyway, the key point is that wowmatrix abuses curse's (and everyone else's) servers for their gain |
| 20:59.35 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: also depending on country, of course ;) |
| 20:59.38 | TradeMark | suppose I write my own web browser, and use that proprietary interface to obtain your addon |
| 20:59.43 | TradeMark | am I then breaking your copyright? |
| 20:59.56 | TradeMark | because that's essentially what wowmatrix is |
| 21:00.14 | Gnarfoz | no, you aren't, and could we please go away from this stupid copyright thing and concentrate on how they're making money from other people's expenses? :p |
| 21:00.16 | TradeMark | they don't claim to be the supplier of the addon, and a prominently placed link takes the user to your addon page on curse.com |
| 21:00.43 | Chrnotic | well they are kind enough to use their own bw no? |
| 21:00.44 | TradeMark | ok now we're talking Gnarfoz :P |
| 21:01.00 | Gnarfoz | who earns or loses money is something much more simpler to get across, IMHO ^^ |
| 21:01.03 | TradeMark | well THAT would be breaking copyright, if they start duplicating all the content they link to |
| 21:01.04 | *** join/#wowace RLD_osx (n=rldempse@66-169-191-207.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 21:01.41 | Gnarfoz | Chrnotic: they're not, of course. they link directly to other site's download servers |
| 21:01.43 | Chrnotic | they do modify the toc's as far as I know |
| 21:02.02 | Gnarfoz | if they do, they do that locally afterwards |
| 21:02.05 | *** join/#wowace evl (n=evl@c85-196-101-98.static.sdsl.no) |
| 21:02.05 | Chrnotic | Gnarfoz: They don't? o.0 |
| 21:02.15 | Gnarfoz | what do you think the fuss is about? :P |
| 21:02.52 | Gnarfoz | the copyright/license stuff is valid in a certain way too, but that wasn't the starting point of why it is a thorn in some people's... sides? |
| 21:03.02 | Gnarfoz | I hate translating idioms |
| 21:03.05 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't work :> |
| 21:03.21 | AckisWork | would like to see what code they add in the toc |
| 21:03.24 | Chrnotic | sheds a tear |
| 21:03.25 | Stanzilla_ | Gnarfoz: haha :P |
| 21:03.56 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: d/l one of your mods through it, you're the only one incapable of violating your own licenses/copyright :p |
| 21:03.57 | ckknight | WowMatrix's main issue is theft of bandwidth |
| 21:04.09 | Groktar | so did anyone watch the firemaw, i mean razorscale, testing today? |
| 21:04.12 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: I don't want to install it :P |
| 21:04.25 | TradeMark | they don't change the toc's |
| 21:04.36 | TradeMark | they add their own little data file to addon directories |
| 21:04.43 | AckisWork | wowmatrix.dat ? |
| 21:04.53 | Gnarfoz | yep |
| 21:05.01 | Gnarfoz | but that might not be all they do these days anymore |
| 21:05.08 | Xinhuan | that isn't a problem in itself, WAU used to add a WAU file too |
| 21:05.11 | Chrnotic | I had a friend send over "insert trash seller here" |
| 21:05.28 | Chrnotic | his was updated while mine was from 2.4.3 |
| 21:05.45 | *** join/#wowace Miyagui (i=miya@190.232.195.32) |
| 21:06.01 | Groktar | that was a translation Gnarfoz? |
| 21:06.14 | Chrnotic | as far as I know, they stopped developing that addon |
| 21:06.28 | Chrnotic | autoprofit i think it was? |
| 21:07.04 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: the ellipsis marks the point where I wasn't certain that the corresponding english idiom is actually what I wrote there, because the literal translation of the german idiom would have been "thorn in some people's eyes" |
| 21:08.01 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r34 Locales/Locale-zhCN.lua: Updated zhCN locale provided by wowui.cn |
| 21:08.14 | Shefki | Thing is the reason wowmatrix is so popular is because the curse client is so bad. When files.wowace.com went away and obsoleted WAU, JWU, et al it left a huge void in functionality of updaters. Curse still isn't up to what they could do. |
| 21:08.18 | ckknight | TradeMark: they've actually started to alter QuestHelper's main.lua to remove his donation link |
| 21:08.29 | Groktar | i should have just said "what is that supposed to mean Gnarfoz?" |
| 21:08.29 | Shefki | And while the wowmatrix people are sttealing bandwidth users don't care about that. |
| 21:08.33 | Groktar | and tried to make you feel bad |
| 21:08.54 | Shefki | So if we want wowmatrix to go away we have to provide a better experience. |
| 21:09.07 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: well, I was aware that i wasn't certain, so if you did, the first thing I would have done would have been to actually go look it up :p |
| 21:09.14 | Xinhuan | someone explain "bandwidth theft" to him |
| 21:09.35 | Groktar | heh |
| 21:09.50 | Chrnotic | ain't the the whole reason WAU went as it was? |
| 21:09.52 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: what could WAU do that CC 3.0 doesn't do? |
| 21:10.11 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Run on a Mac. |
| 21:10.13 | Gnarfoz | Chrnotic: don't confuse bandwidth use (legitimate) with bandwidth theft :> |
| 21:10.24 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: there's a mac version...? |
| 21:10.27 | End | WAU could run on a mac? |
| 21:10.29 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Find it. |
| 21:10.30 | Chrnotic | hmm |
| 21:10.32 | TradeMark | ckknight: interesting |
| 21:10.37 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: also I hihgly doubt WAU runs on Macs, hehe |
| 21:10.44 | End | there was the java version |
| 21:10.51 | End | that probably ran on macs |
| 21:10.52 | Shefki | JWU could. |
| 21:10.56 | Gnarfoz | wau2? you must be joking, that was a POS :p |
| 21:10.57 | End | but I don't think the original WAU could |
| 21:10.59 | Shefki | And there was a port of the WAU to mac. |
| 21:11.01 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: JWU is not wau |
| 21:11.16 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: no? but in the traditional way of telling you where to find info instead of giving it to you: ask Kaelten :p |
| 21:11.21 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Doesn't matter, I didn't just say WAU above. |
| 21:11.36 | Gnarfoz | death of WAU didn't cause the death of JWU |
| 21:11.41 | Gnarfoz | false logic etc |
| 21:11.53 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Ohh and I'm sure users come on IRC and beg to get alphas of unrelaesed software rather than just download a working wowmatrix? |
| 21:11.55 | End | Gnarfoz was asking what CC was missing that WAU had though :P |
| 21:11.56 | Zarnivoop | there was a native Mac version of WAU, that was essentially as sharp as WowMatrix is |
| 21:12.06 | Zarnivoop | not called WAU, something else I forgoet |
| 21:12.29 | Gnarfoz | all the cross-site updaters didn't compare to WAU in terms of ease of use |
| 21:12.31 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: What caused the death of JWU was people upset becuase it wasn't going to be as easy to use. |
| 21:12.36 | Repo | 10logsaver: 03Sarkoris * r2 Libs/: bah humbug |
| 21:12.43 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Did you ever actually use JWU? |
| 21:12.47 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: yes, I did |
| 21:12.56 | Gnarfoz | and went back to WAU, as you can probably tell |
| 21:12.57 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 21:12.59 | Shefki | JWU worked exactly the same as WAU as far as ace stuff. |
| 21:13.01 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-75-g1231247 / (6 files in 3 directories): [+8 commits] (4 truncated) |
| 21:13.04 | Gnarfoz | nope, didn't |
| 21:13.04 | Repo | 1231247: Fix a typo with the ordering of options. |
| 21:13.07 | Repo | 54133a5: Change some filter flags to be text in the dump just to make it easier to read. |
| 21:13.10 | Repo | d0e7b87: Make the dump display the achievement ones as well. |
| 21:13.14 | Repo | c91ba1a: Add achievement acquire type to docs |
| 21:13.24 | Gnarfoz | it did dependancy and externals handling differently, and not as reliably |
| 21:13.32 | Gnarfoz | *dependency |
| 21:13.34 | Shefki | Worked perfectly fine here. |
| 21:13.45 | Gnarfoz | I'm not saying your experience was my experience? |
| 21:13.45 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 21:14.11 | Gnarfoz | I see your point though, mac CC is not ready for release |
| 21:14.12 | Shefki | The point here is the experience with Curse right after files.wowace.com went away suckeed ass... And for Mac people it still sucks ass. |
| 21:14.34 | Xinhuan | look what you started TradeMark |
| 21:14.36 | Shefki | Wowmatrix has a Mac version... Where do you think Mac users are gonna go. |
| 21:14.50 | Gnarfoz | so that means Mac users, who are a minority, but an existing minority nonetheless, would be easily drawn to wowmatrix |
| 21:15.05 | Chrnotic | what can mac that win cannot? |
| 21:15.13 | Zarnivoop | is a mac user with wowmatrix. nowhere near as advanced as CC, but I don't need advanced in an updater. |
| 21:15.14 | Chrnotic | copypasta? |
| 21:15.18 | Gnarfoz | and now to concentrate on my original question, for the actual masses of users out there who use windows: |
| 21:15.21 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1568 / (2 files in 1 directory): Imma sneaky wabbit! |
| 21:15.27 | Gnarfoz | what can wowmatrix (on windows) do, that CC 3.0 can't |
| 21:15.42 | Xinhuan | it can cross-site update. |
| 21:15.49 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Has a reputation of working with users. |
| 21:15.50 | TradeMark | it's not restricted to curse addons for starters |
| 21:16.11 | Gnarfoz | it also has a reputation of making money off other people's work |
| 21:16.12 | Gnarfoz | yay! |
| 21:16.19 | TradeMark | it doesn't install shit that continues to run when I'm not playing wow or updating my addons... I'd rather update on demand |
| 21:16.26 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Users don't care about that stuff. |
| 21:16.30 | Shefki | They don't see the difference. |
| 21:16.34 | Gnarfoz | TradeMark: curse client doesn't, either? |
| 21:16.35 | Shefki | You're giving your addons away. |
| 21:16.44 | Shefki | They don't understand why you care where they get them from. |
| 21:16.53 | TradeMark | Gnarfoz: it read as though it has a resident component that constantly monitors for updates |
| 21:17.15 | Gnarfoz | that would be kind of counter to what the whole point with "paying for premium" would be |
| 21:17.22 | Xinhuan | it does have that component, but it can be switched off |
| 21:17.27 | AckisWork | Mickey Mouse received 800,000 fan letters in 1933. |
| 21:17.29 | Gnarfoz | it can simply stay loaded (in systray) |
| 21:17.29 | TradeMark | ok |
| 21:17.37 | AckisWork | Mozart composed his first opera at the age of twelve. |
| 21:17.38 | Gnarfoz | or it can fully exit |
| 21:17.50 | AckisWork | Walt Disney's family dog was named Lady. She was a poodle. |
| 21:17.57 | Gnarfoz | for reasons unknown to me, staying loaded is the default |
| 21:18.03 | AckisWork | A snail can sleep for three years. |
| 21:18.13 | Shefki | All they care about is a working updater. Curse Client has a hugely bad reputation from before files.wowace.com went away, which was not improved by the 2.x version we got after that. |
| 21:18.17 | Primer | Xinhuan: I believe _I_ started this :) |
| 21:18.40 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: huh? 2.x worked fine, too, but I guess some people are gossip fans |
| 21:18.59 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: 2.x still thinks the newest Recount is from the end of Feb. |
| 21:19.01 | Gnarfoz | 3.0 is *very* recent and I've been using 2.x basically since it became available |
| 21:19.01 | TradeMark | /cheer Primer |
| 21:19.18 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: which could well be true? I didn't check tags. |
| 21:19.20 | Primer | thing is, I was looking for selling pints to get a guildy to STOP using wowmatrix |
| 21:19.23 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: It's not. |
| 21:19.24 | Primer | so far, I've seen none |
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| 21:19.33 | Primer | s/pints/points/ |
| 21:19.41 | Gnarfoz | Primer: money going to the wrong guys is not a good point? |
| 21:20.02 | Xinhuan | see, well, it wouldn't have been a problem if wowmatrix didn't display ads (for wowmatrix's profit) |
| 21:20.04 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: It's a great point. But what are you going to do about it? |
| 21:20.15 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: me? nothing. |
| 21:20.19 | Xinhuan | as it is, they are just leeching curse (and other sites) bandwidth, for their ads profit |
| 21:20.26 | Shefki | Going after them as an author is de minimus. |
| 21:20.27 | Gnarfoz | I digress and refer you all to the countless wowinterface.com and wowace.com forum threads |
| 21:20.34 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: hey did you know that Firefox makes money of others work too? |
| 21:20.43 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: how so? |
| 21:20.43 | TradeMark | ^ |
| 21:20.45 | NeoTron | it like lets you go to sites in ways not intended by the author |
| 21:20.50 | Primer | Gnarfoz: what's wowmatrix's revenue stream? ads? |
| 21:20.58 | Gnarfoz | Primer: ads and not having to pay for bandwidth |
| 21:21.00 | Shefki | Curse or WowI could probably do it but they may not even have cause to do so... Deep linking is a bit of a wishy washy legal status. |
| 21:21.02 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: what |
| 21:21.07 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: websites don't work that way :p |
| 21:21.12 | NeoTron | wowmatrix is no different than anything that downloads things and puts ads up to the user |
| 21:21.32 | NeoTron | like Opera when it was free with ads made money from people browins websites |
| 21:21.37 | AckisWork | The heaviest dog ever weighed 343 pounds. |
| 21:21.46 | Shefki | So again, if you want to displace wowmatrix and make it go away just do a better job than it. |
| 21:21.58 | Shefki | Make it become the crappy updater. |
| 21:21.59 | NeoTron | I like to play devils advocate in the wowmatrix case, playing both sides |
| 21:22.00 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: they displayed ads even with no website loaded, what's your point again? |
| 21:22.02 | TradeMark | what Shefki said |
| 21:22.03 | Shefki | And people will stop using it. |
| 21:22.17 | NeoTron | that it's just a downloader and no worse than a user with firefox + adblock |
| 21:22.56 | TradeMark | here's an idea: CC Lite... none of the extra cruft, you just run it and it updates |
| 21:22.56 | Gnarfoz | since the cross-site option is a no-go for curse client, and it works perfectly fine for the rest of what it's supposed to do, I take the "surpass wowmatrix" point as already done on windows |
| 21:23.13 | Shefki | Possibly. |
| 21:23.16 | Gnarfoz | TradeMark: what extra cruft? there's not much to it to begin with |
| 21:23.18 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: except for addons not available on curse? |
| 21:23.24 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: hello? read whole line plx |
| 21:23.33 | TradeMark | Gnarfoz: everything that CC does that isn't the above |
| 21:23.48 | Gnarfoz | TradeMark: name one? |
| 21:23.49 | NeoTron | point is it's not surpassing wowmatrix since it only handles a subset of what wowmatrix handles |
| 21:23.54 | NeoTron | so it fails by defintion |
| 21:24.04 | Gnarfoz | and you fail to read chat lines, apparently |
| 21:24.12 | NeoTron | curse and wowi need a cross-site distribution license or something to "surpass" wowmatrix |
| 21:24.19 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 21:24.22 | Gnarfoz | like that's gonna happen |
| 21:24.23 | TradeMark | ie. resident processes (shouldn't even be the option tbh), data collection, character profiles |
| 21:24.34 | Gnarfoz | data collection == character profiles |
| 21:24.36 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: until it does, wowmatrix or other apps like it will be around |
| 21:24.38 | TradeMark | I don't want nor need any of that, and quite frankly it makes me not want to install CC |
| 21:24.50 | TradeMark | profiles is a part of data collection |
| 21:24.57 | Gnarfoz | no, you're not getting it |
| 21:24.58 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: Then they'll either have to sue wowmatrix and waste a ton of money and possibly lose, further installing wowmatrix. |
| 21:25.05 | Shefki | Or they'll just have to suck it up. |
| 21:25.09 | Gnarfoz | the CurseProfiler wow addon is what does the data collection |
| 21:25.21 | Gnarfoz | unless I'm not up to date, that's the entirety of it |
| 21:25.24 | NeoTron | main thing people have against curse updater is: it installs a collector without asking (or did at some point), it updates in the background rather than on demand, curse has (false but sitll there) a repuation for "distributing worms" |
| 21:25.27 | Gnarfoz | and the "resident process" is the same process you would be starting to update addons |
| 21:25.28 | TradeMark | so why does it document all this stuff on the page for Curse Client |
| 21:25.36 | NeoTron | curse has had several awful iterations of the updater |
| 21:25.40 | Torhal | TradeMark: The data collection is an addon which is an optional install. |
| 21:25.49 | TradeMark | ok then |
| 21:25.56 | NeoTron | Torhal: optional but enabled by default no? |
| 21:26.03 | Torhal | It's on by default, but you can disable it |
| 21:26.04 | Torhal | NeoTron: Yes |
| 21:26.09 | NeoTron | that is bad |
| 21:26.10 | TradeMark | exactly Torhal |
| 21:26.12 | Gnarfoz | and "in the background is also not correct", you click update, it updates, what's backgroundy about that |
| 21:26.13 | TradeMark | I don't want to have to disable shit |
| 21:26.14 | NeoTron | you opt in, not opt out |
| 21:26.27 | TradeMark | wowmatrix is good because it's an application that I run every few weeks and it updates my shit |
| 21:26.30 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: possible it changed but the previous incarnation had a background process that always ran |
| 21:26.30 | TradeMark | nothing more, nothing less |
| 21:26.34 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: You can set it to automatically update addons. |
| 21:26.41 | Torhal | Which I refuse to do. |
| 21:26.44 | Gnarfoz | err |
| 21:26.49 | Gnarfoz | so you refuse to do something that... |
| 21:26.52 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't do by itself |
| 21:26.53 | Gnarfoz | grats? |
| 21:26.57 | Torhal | :P |
| 21:27.03 | Gnarfoz | and NeoTron: no background process. it's the SAME process. |
| 21:27.13 | Gnarfoz | it's just a toggle that controls what the "x" button means. |
| 21:27.14 | NeoTron | I will say I have not tried Kaelten's curse updater but the one before that was sitting the background |
| 21:27.29 | Gnarfoz | if you didn't tell it not to, yes |
| 21:27.34 | Torhal | NeoTron: Yah, new one has no "services" component to it. It's just a program. |
| 21:27.36 | Gnarfoz | it simply went to system tray instead of quitting |
| 21:27.37 | NeoTron | if it sits in the background hidden it's background process even if it's the same program |
| 21:27.43 | Gnarfoz | it's not HIDDEN |
| 21:27.46 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
| 21:27.52 | NeoTron | it's still running |
| 21:28.00 | NeoTron | twisting my terms |
| 21:28.02 | Gnarfoz | yes, because you didn't tellit to DIE :< |
| 21:28.11 | TradeMark | technically any process which isn't currently running is a "background process" :P |
| 21:28.20 | NeoTron | regardless I'm speaking mostly of the perception real users have of curse |
| 21:28.21 | Gnarfoz | and frankly, why are you even commenting on the state of the program if you haven't used it in obviously several months? :p |
| 21:28.34 | NeoTron | See comment above |
| 21:28.37 | Gnarfoz | TradeMark: how can a process currently not run and yet still be there? :p |
| 21:28.58 | NeoTron | people use wowmatrix because it works. people don't use curse updater due to previous clusterfuck clients and bad rep |
| 21:29.09 | Gnarfoz | so... propaganda! |
| 21:29.11 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 21:29.21 | Gnarfoz | wear Curse Client t-shirts, badges, write songs |
| 21:29.23 | Gnarfoz | etc :> |
| 21:29.23 | TradeMark | well the way the documentation reads, it's saying it will be constantly monitoring for new updates, which implies that it runs at startup |
| 21:29.49 | TradeMark | and I know you can disable it etc, but it's that very functionality that puts me off grabbing it in the first place |
| 21:29.55 | Gnarfoz | sigh for arguing with people who haven't used the program they're talking about :D |
| 21:29.58 | TradeMark | I'd prefer a tight little package that does exactly what I need and nothing more |
| 21:30.03 | TradeMark | ie. wowmatrix |
| 21:30.06 | TradeMark | end of story :D |
| 21:30.09 | Gnarfoz | actually, that would be a shell script |
| 21:30.12 | Gnarfoz | wowmatrix does more. |
| 21:30.22 | Gnarfoz | it rewrites your addon's code and displays ads |
| 21:30.52 | TradeMark | tbh I'm not complaining about it disabling ads in QH |
| 21:31.00 | Gnarfoz | ads? |
| 21:31.09 | Gnarfoz | how is a donation link an ad |
| 21:31.11 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 21:31.11 | TradeMark | I understand that it's wrong |
| 21:31.26 | TradeMark | meh same diff :P |
| 21:31.41 | durcyn | go away, troll |
| 21:31.48 | Groktar | <Gnarfoz> sigh for arguing with people who haven't used the program they're talking about :D |
| 21:31.56 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: you racist :( what if he was a tauren? |
| 21:32.22 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: the point is not whether the curse client is good or bad but why people use and will continue to use wowmatrix |
| 21:32.27 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: I'm aware |
| 21:32.41 | TradeMark | my point can be summed up thusly: it doesn't matter if I have or haven't tried CC because quite frankly I feel no desire to, and having all the extra cruft only steers me toward continuing to use wowmatrix |
| 21:32.44 | NeoTron | I'm all for a good curse client (but let's face it I'm not a typical user - I update from svn) |
| 21:32.58 | Groktar | i really have zero complaints about cc |
| 21:33.06 | *** join/#wowace Tuller (n=muffins@c-71-197-12-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 21:33.15 | Primer | same here, other than the fact that it doesn't pull things down from wowi |
| 21:33.19 | Primer | Tuller! |
| 21:33.27 | TradeMark | goes back to his corner |
| 21:33.39 | Tuller | hello |
| 21:33.46 | Groktar | i blame the wowi authors that haven't wised up to wowace for that |
| 21:33.57 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: and, seeing that cross-site updating for CC is as likely as me winning the lottery, IMHO the options for the windows version are close to exhausted, except maybe the things that make privacy aware users (read: vocal minority, as these things tend to go) go "meh" |
| 21:34.06 | Primer | Tuller: quick question: I've setup multiple profiles in Dominos, for raid and pvp, thing is, once I re-spec, those spells that are talent based are gone, and when I enable the other profile after a re-spec, they're not in the bars |
| 21:34.26 | Primer | I'm guessing that's just how it is? and that 3.1 will "fix" that with its dual spec/bars/glyph thing? |
| 21:34.40 | Groktar | hears it worked just fine before Gnarfoz went in and broke it |
| 21:34.49 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: damn you |
| 21:34.53 | Tuller | well yes, if you switch specs via the dual spec mechanism, you will have a second button layout |
| 21:35.13 | Gnarfoz | Primer: Dominos saves the positions of spells on the bars? |
| 21:35.17 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: ok so I have to ask this - wowmatrix modifies addon code to remove donation links? |
| 21:35.31 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: at least for QH |
| 21:35.36 | NeoTron | now THAT is wrong |
| 21:35.38 | Tuller | dominos does not save action button slot positions |
| 21:35.46 | Gnarfoz | well, then that's not surprising ^^ |
| 21:35.53 | NeoTron | that's the first real argument I've seen that shows wowmatrix is evil |
| 21:35.58 | Gnarfoz | however, there's a remedy! Primer: get ActionBarSaver and use it :> |
| 21:36.03 | TradeMark | yeah I'll agree that WM shouldn't be touching code |
| 21:36.03 | Groktar | i used to use snapshotbar for that when i played my priest |
| 21:36.06 | [draco] | there's addons that do that |
| 21:36.13 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r455 / (8 files in 2 directories): Some cleanups |
| 21:36.16 | Repo | Remove the Pet button. The ability is now in the template menu. |
| 21:36.19 | Repo | Allow to learn pet talents |
| 21:36.46 | Groktar | because i would move around almost all my buttons when i went between shadow/holy |
| 21:37.42 | Repo | 10logsaver: 03Sarkoris * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): eol style |
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| 21:43.09 | Tuller | hrm, wow chose for me, since the PTR is down |
| 21:43.42 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r33 / (8 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:43.45 | Repo | Moved the configuration GUI into its own load-on-demand addon. |
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| 21:46.20 | Tuller | yay |
| 21:47.14 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r250 / (2 files in 1 directory): BadBoy: blacklist update |
| 21:47.43 | Primer | Gnarfoz: ok! |
| 21:47.59 | Gnarfoz | Primer: ...here's the catch: it's on wowi. :p |
| 21:48.20 | Gnarfoz | j/k :p http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8075-ActionBarSaver2.html |
| 21:48.43 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: it should be on CF too |
| 21:48.51 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r34 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 21:48.54 | Repo | Renamed a file to workaround a packager bug (or undocumented feature ?). |
| 21:49.27 | Gnarfoz | AckisWork: it should? I'm not keeping tabs on who's sided where, updates both or even uses svnsync :> |
| 21:50.08 | AckisWork | Gnarfoz: lol |
| 21:53.10 | Xinhuan | how would it know to modify addon code to remove donation links? |
| 21:53.54 | [draco] | regex the files? |
| 21:53.56 | [draco] | dunno |
| 21:54.38 | Xinhuan | i don't know, i don't even put my email addresses in direct regexable form |
| 21:55.46 | [draco] | was just guessing |
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| 21:56.47 | NivFreak | I miss doing RoS =( |
| 21:56.57 | NivFreak | that might have been my favorite fight in t6 |
| 21:57.08 | Groktar | ya, i miss bitching at the rogues for missing an interrupt |
| 21:57.22 | NivFreak | it was a fun execution fight |
| 21:57.30 | NivFreak | decently tuned at the time |
| 21:57.51 | NivFreak | I think kaelthas was my favorite TBC raid boss though |
| 21:58.09 | [draco] | you had to rely on rogues |
| 21:58.17 | [draco] | can't be a good fight |
| 21:58.30 | NeoTron | we had bad tanks |
| 21:58.30 | NivFreak | I've always had good rogues |
| 21:58.36 | NeoTron | KT was one of the most horrible TBC fights |
| 21:58.36 | *** part/#wowace grennon (n=jeramy@e04.proxy.fedex.com) |
| 21:58.37 | nevcairiel | My kaelthas experience was ruined by all the nerfs |
| 21:58.39 | NeoTron | for that reason |
| 21:58.52 | NivFreak | a bad group can make any fight misrable |
| 21:58.53 | nevcairiel | the first kills were so much fun |
| 21:58.58 | nevcairiel | then they nerfed the hell out of him |
| 21:59.02 | NivFreak | my least favorite was archimonde |
| 21:59.17 | NivFreak | because we had a few spots that would churn people fairly reguarly |
| 21:59.18 | Groktar | by the time they nerfed the crap out of him we didn't really run tk anymore |
| 21:59.24 | NivFreak | and new people would always make that fight random |
| 21:59.39 | NivFreak | it's not worth talking about most of these bosses post nerfs :P |
| 21:59.40 | Primer | seems there are several simple addons that save action bars |
| 21:59.44 | NivFreak | everything was a joke by the end |
| 21:59.46 | nevcairiel | Groktar: we didnt either, but we still went there some time, and it ruined my impression =P |
| 21:59.52 | NivFreak | Primer: I use actionbar saver 2 |
| 22:00.03 | NivFreak | Primer: it's the only one I could find that didn't wipe my bars all out :) |
| 22:00.13 | Groktar | every time we would go back it would be fairly challenging |
| 22:00.26 | Groktar | since we'd bring lots of pugs and alts |
| 22:00.35 | Shefki | I just use separate pages and Macaroon. |
| 22:00.37 | NivFreak | it was nice to see they attunment removed |
| 22:00.50 | NivFreak | having to clear TK to get new people into t6 raids was the suck |
| 22:00.55 | Shefki | Things that I know WoW would wipe off my actionbars I set as Macro buttons. |
| 22:00.57 | Groktar | yeah |
| 22:01.20 | Groktar | doing a shitton of heroics to get people into tk was even worse |
| 22:01.27 | NivFreak | very true |
| 22:01.37 | Primer | NivFreak: ok, I'll stick with this recommendation |
| 22:01.51 | NivFreak | Primer: when it breaks, it sucks :) |
| 22:01.57 | Groktar | i pretty much refused to go another heroic once we got enough people tk ready |
| 22:02.04 | NivFreak | Primer: and beware that if you modify a macro, it won't be able to restore it later |
| 22:02.12 | NivFreak | Primer: so if you change your macros, resave your set |
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| 22:03.05 | Shefki | Only 32 more days to Exalted with Explorers' League |
| 22:04.17 | Primer | NivFreak: ok |
| 22:06.01 | netcurse | http://mediabeta.curse.com/CommunityServer.Components.PostAttachments/00/00/40/06/11/1.jpg |
| 22:06.02 | netcurse | discuss |
| 22:07.15 | Groktar | my eyes |
| 22:07.17 | Groktar | the goggle |
| 22:07.20 | Groktar | they do nothing |
| 22:07.20 | NeoTron | netcurse: seen worse |
| 22:08.27 | NeoTron | perhaps because you only one "a goggle", leaving one eye open? :P |
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| 22:09.37 | Shefki | Why are there two minimaps? |
| 22:09.43 | AckisWork | pompy was too afraid to link this: http://pastebin.com/m40058bb5 |
| 22:09.57 | pompy | I was jus about to, shut it ackiswork |
| 22:10.35 | Xinhuan | whats the point of that |
| 22:10.42 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: one is not a minimap :> |
| 22:10.55 | Shefki | What is it a shrunk real map? |
| 22:11.11 | Gnarfoz | it might be a small map, but one uses the artwork stuff and the other the minimap tiles |
| 22:12.39 | Groktar | it's like he was intentionally looking for ways to take up screen space |
| 22:13.56 | Xinhuan | bugsack 3 errors hahaha |
| 22:14.27 | Groktar | that's pretty amazing considering how much shit he's running |
| 22:14.38 | Xinhuan | 65.5 mb ui |
| 22:14.39 | Xinhuan | not bad |
| 22:15.18 | Neebler | groktars mother is a 3 slot bag |
| 22:16.02 | Groktar | ignores neebler and takes a screenshot of his ui |
| 22:16.44 | Gnarfoz | guess that's what you end up with when you're bored and stuck with BC |
| 22:18.49 | Shefki | wow I guess they would still be raiding Sunwell. |
| 22:18.55 | Shefki | Must be really boring with the 3.0 nerf too. |
| 22:19.03 | Xinhuan | >.> |
| 22:20.02 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=med&pic_id=38 |
| 22:20.12 | Groktar | oops |
| 22:20.16 | Groktar | http://www.guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=38 |
| 22:21.15 | NivFreak | ackj |
| 22:21.24 | NivFreak | something just isn't right with that |
| 22:21.32 | Groktar | ? |
| 22:21.36 | NivFreak | naked elves |
| 22:22.04 | Groktar | i'm almost always standing nekkid on the mailbox |
| 22:22.30 | Primer | the main reason why I rolled a NE priest was to have something pleasant to look at |
| 22:22.45 | Groktar | i miss my human priest |
| 22:22.51 | Groktar | she was a qtpi |
| 22:23.09 | Primer | getting shadowmeld to break combat and not die on boss fights: priceless |
| 22:23.18 | Groktar | until they nerfed it |
| 22:23.27 | Primer | and qtpi is...? |
| 22:23.37 | Primer | oh |
| 22:23.38 | Primer | nm |
| 22:23.47 | Primer | I sounded out the letters |
| 22:23.51 | Primer | but one too many |
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| 22:27.51 | ckknight | qtÏ |
| 22:30.19 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:30.21 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15661690616&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 22:30.26 | Xinhuan | new thread on UI forums |
| 22:30.55 | Xinhuan | this one discusses whether it is legal for Carbonite to offer a free version of Carbonite - but with adverts that popup in game every now and then |
| 22:31.19 | Xinhuan | i.e its the full version - you either pay by cash, or you pay by viewing ads in game |
| 22:31.48 | Fisker- | am killing ckknight |
| 22:31.59 | ckknight | grammar, Fisker-, grammar. |
| 22:32.33 | thul | hugs Fisker- |
| 22:32.53 | Tuller | i'm somewhat impressed that ads pop up, if they do |
| 22:32.57 | NivFreak | Groktar: also, that's a peeve of mine, UIs outside of combat show very little |
| 22:33.17 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: who cares, fuck carbonite |
| 22:33.33 | Xinhuan | its not about carbonite per-se |
| 22:33.43 | NivFreak | quest helper really needs a bit of work with phasing though, and the icecrown airships |
| 22:33.44 | Xinhuan | its about whether its legal for addons to advertise |
| 22:33.48 | Xinhuan | in wow |
| 22:34.06 | NivFreak | Xinhuan: the quest is better asked then, is there some reason it's illegal? |
| 22:34.16 | Xinhuan | its unknown |
| 22:34.30 | Xinhuan | because all the EULA says is that Wow cannot be exploited for commercial gains |
| 22:34.34 | Xinhuan | unless with written benefit |
| 22:34.55 | Xinhuan | which is very vague as to whether an addon that shows the user pre-loaded images of ads |
| 22:34.58 | NivFreak | well, that's left up to blizzard to enforce legally then |
| 22:35.01 | Xinhuan | is considered "commercial profit" |
| 22:35.17 | Fisker- | Well then it would already be in violation just by being a pay for-addon? |
| 22:35.26 | NivFreak | nah |
| 22:35.33 | Fisker- | i disagree |
| 22:35.37 | NivFreak | you can disagree |
| 22:35.42 | NivFreak | but blizzard clearly doesn't |
| 22:35.53 | NivFreak | and thier intent is what's protected by the EULA |
| 22:36.33 | NivFreak | carbonite is high enough profile that blizzard would have asked them to stop distributing it if they didn't like pay supported addons |
| 22:36.53 | Codayus | Don't forget RDX. |
| 22:37.07 | Primer | never heard of carbonite... |
| 22:37.09 | Xinhuan | still the thread is interesting |
| 22:37.26 | Xinhuan | because it is new grounds/areas that hasn't been thought of before |
| 22:37.42 | NivFreak | RDX is a reskinner or what? |
| 22:37.53 | Xinhuan | although by page 4, it has turned into symantics bickering |
| 22:37.56 | Neebler | rdx was out in the days of BWL |
| 22:38.09 | Codayus | RDX was a big monolithic raid thing, back during BWL and Naxx, yeah. |
| 22:38.16 | Hjalte | How long is it untill 2:30pm PST ? |
| 22:38.16 | NivFreak | ah |
| 22:38.32 | Tuller | an hour ago? :P |
| 22:38.41 | Groktar | raid leaders could force other people running rdx to go offline |
| 22:38.48 | NivFreak | I doubt it's in blizzard's interest to stomp payware addons |
| 22:38.57 | NivFreak | Groktar: lol |
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| 22:39.08 | Codayus | hmmm, curse has banner ads, so curse gets money from people who play wow, so curse is exploiting wow for profit. Discuss. |
| 22:39.12 | NivFreak | Groktar: I'm sure blizzard loved that |
| 22:39.20 | Groktar | it would be nice if the RL could force people to ghetto hearth |
| 22:39.22 | NivFreak | Groktar: and I bet the 2.0 changes really broke it |
| 22:39.27 | Groktar | ooh yeah |
| 22:39.45 | Groktar | give them 30 seconds to click NO |
| 22:39.53 | Groktar | hates people who afk |
| 22:39.56 | Codayus | The best ready check EVER |
| 22:39.57 | Groktar | points at Neebler |
| 22:40.05 | Codayus | Click or you'll end up in Dalaran. |
| 22:40.05 | NivFreak | I'm a huge fan of the idea |
| 22:40.08 | NivFreak | don't even give them time |
| 22:40.10 | NivFreak | just let you port them |
| 22:40.13 | NivFreak | as RL |
| 22:40.34 | NivFreak | I had a fun situation back in TBC |
| 22:40.42 | NivFreak | on the way to kaelthas in fact |
| 22:40.55 | NivFreak | the mages were having trouble keeping the trash in his hall CC'd |
| 22:41.01 | NivFreak | so I noticed one of them was doing heavy dps |
| 22:41.24 | NivFreak | I asked him to do nothing but spam sheep on a few of these pulls, because he was so focused on his trash dmg numbers (wtf?) that he was failing to do his job |
| 22:41.37 | NivFreak | so he took off all his gear, and tried to wipe us |
| 22:41.46 | NivFreak | wtb port out feature |
| 22:41.53 | Codayus | Wow |
| 22:41.56 | Groktar | seriously |
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| 22:42.02 | Codayus | That's...disfunctional. |
| 22:42.10 | NivFreak | he was gone immediately of course |
| 22:42.20 | NivFreak | but it was difficult to get him out of the way so we could continue |
| 22:42.20 | smcn | yeah out of probably 10 mages i raided with over the course of tbc i can only recall 2 that actually knew what sheep spamming was |
| 22:42.26 | NivFreak | and I've had issues like that in heroics as well |
| 22:42.45 | NivFreak | smcn: his response was "that's too boring" |
| 22:43.00 | smcn | lol |
| 22:43.00 | NivFreak | and gkick came quickly |
| 22:43.28 | NivFreak | you want to see boring? |
| 22:43.36 | NivFreak | tank some |
| 22:43.39 | NivFreak | zzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 22:44.00 | NivFreak | the best example that comes to mind, p1 alar |
| 22:44.01 | NivFreak | haha |
| 22:44.11 | NivFreak | I will stand here, it does not even matter if I attack |
| 22:44.14 | NivFreak | as long as I stand here |
| 22:44.19 | thul | http://fc72.deviantart.com/fs44/i/2009/077/4/9/Windowlight_by_cainadamsson.jpg <- portrait of the day |
| 22:44.21 | Primer | heh, I did a 10 man OS the other day with 2 mages, no druids...neither mage knew to decurse |
| 22:44.35 | Primer | I was spamming DECURSE! in /ra only to be ignored |
| 22:44.39 | NivFreak | we 5manned OS the other day, and it was easy... |
| 22:44.41 | NivFreak | that's just sad |
| 22:44.45 | NivFreak | I want to try and duo it |
| 22:44.54 | Repo | 10logsaver: 03Sarkoris * r4 .pkgmeta: added externals |
| 22:44.55 | Groktar | i think you'd hit the enrage |
| 22:45.01 | NivFreak | 20min enrage |
| 22:45.03 | NeoTron | we did a 25 man OS with 15 people dead |
| 22:45.11 | NeoTron | approximately |
| 22:45.19 | NivFreak | NeoTron: yea, it's a joke with no drakes |
| 22:45.19 | Codayus | Did a 10 man OS with one mage, no druids. The mage was on a laptop, and his bars were messed up, so no decurse on his bars. |
| 22:45.27 | NivFreak | oh man |
| 22:45.31 | NivFreak | we did 8 man OS with no decurser |
| 22:45.33 | NivFreak | that was funny |
| 22:45.35 | Codayus | He tried opening his spellbook, and...didn't open. Messed up addon was blocking it. |
| 22:45.36 | NivFreak | all the tanks had the curse |
| 22:45.40 | NivFreak | so we were kiting the mobs |
| 22:45.53 | NivFreak | 2 mins on that curse... |
| 22:46.03 | Codayus | Yep. Killing trash with that curse is TERRIBLE...but possible. |
| 22:46.21 | NivFreak | I used my last towelette that night |
| 22:46.24 | Shefki | I'm the only person in my raid that ever and I mean ever removes it. |
| 22:46.37 | NivFreak | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=5951 |
| 22:46.41 | NivFreak | I had them for years |
| 22:46.44 | NivFreak | so sad they are actually gone now |
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| 23:04.50 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1569 / (3 files in 2 directories): AckisRecipeList: |
| 23:04.53 | Repo | - added ascending/descending option to skill sorting (Ticket 435) |
| 23:04.56 | Repo | - increased drop down menu width to properly display long texts |
| 23:04.59 | Repo | - tweaked some other user interface element positions slightly |
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| 23:14.24 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r70 / (6 files in 1 directory): |
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| 23:14.27 | Repo | modify .pkgmeta and tocfile to add AceGUI-3.0-SharedMediaWidgets and reflect recent changes in LibQTip-1.0 repository changes |
| 23:14.30 | Repo | Modify options to hide unneeded options in option panel |
| 23:14.33 | Repo | add color picker to questInformations for background and border |
| 23:14.36 | Repo | remove default anchor position to questsTooltip module |
| 23:20.43 | Repo | 10bettermagnet: 03copystring * r17 BetterMagnet.lua: BetterMagnet: |
| 23:20.46 | Repo | - only continue if GetItemCount is greater then 0 |
| 23:24.55 | Xinhuan | Zhinjio |
| 23:27.40 | Zhinjio | Xinhuan |
| 23:27.47 | Xinhuan | i'll whisper you ;p |
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| 23:30.13 | Megalon | kinky stuff going on! |
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| 23:32.20 | kagaro | anyone have a handy tutorial for creating border images? |
| 23:32.49 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: failboat seems broken to me |
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| 23:33.32 | NivFreak | sylvanaar: it didn't record any errors monday when we were working on a s3d-10 repeat |
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| 23:40.34 | netcurse | PM me if you want to try out the new curse client 3.0.0.2 |
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| 23:41.50 | Xinhuan | *pokes Zhinjio* |
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| 23:49.34 | syeren | Hmm, is it possible to have a Help / Harm macro which can have an alt modifier added on to the end of it? |
| 23:49.48 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 23:49.56 | syeren | So like Offensive would be Hex, Friend would be Healing wave, and when I press alt it Healing Waves me :p |
| 23:50.02 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:50.05 | syeren | Cool. |
| 23:50.34 | Xinhuan | /cast [harm] blah; [mod:alt,help] blah; [help] blah |
| 23:51.20 | syeren | Alt, help would be on a friend right? |
| 23:51.35 | Xinhuan | help is anyone in green text |
| 23:51.40 | syeren | Don't want it that way. |
| 23:51.41 | syeren | Sigh :/ |
| 23:51.56 | Xinhuan | you didn't really say |
| 23:52.17 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: *stab stab stab* |
| 23:52.17 | syeren | Basically when I press alt, I want it to go back to [target=player] |
| 23:52.22 | Xinhuan | so add it in? |
| 23:52.31 | syeren | I'm going to try it :p |
| 23:52.38 | Xinhuan | /cast [harm] blah; [mod:alt,help,target=player] blah; [help] blah |
| 23:52.40 | Xinhuan | not difficult!! |
| 23:53.03 | Xinhuan | although target=player already implies help |
| 23:53.06 | Xinhuan | so its redundant |
| 23:53.12 | Xinhuan | /cast [harm] blah; [mod:alt,target=player] blah; [help] blah |
| 23:53.46 | Axodious | /cast [nomod,noharm] Lesser Healing Wave; [nomod,noharm,target=targettarget] Lesser Healing Wave; [mod:alt,target=player] Lesser Healing Wave |
| 23:53.57 | Axodious | ^- win |
| 23:54.14 | Xinhuan | doesn't need to be that long |
| 23:54.18 | Xinhuan | and is actually counterproductive |
| 23:54.42 | Axodious | psh |
| 23:55.20 | syeren | #showtooltip |
| 23:55.20 | syeren | /cast [harm] Hex; [help] Healing Wave; [mod:alt,target=player] Healing Wave |
| 23:55.22 | syeren | Doesn't work! |
| 23:55.32 | Xinhuan | which part doesn't work |
| 23:55.33 | syeren | Guess I need to nomod. |
| 23:55.45 | syeren | When I press alt and have a 'friend' targetted, it still heals them :p |
| 23:55.54 | Axodious | yeah, need nomod |
| 23:55.58 | Xinhuan | that's because you need to put the mod:alt first |
| 23:56.01 | Xinhuan | see my macro |
| 23:56.04 | Xinhuan | /cast [harm] blah; [mod:alt,target=player] blah; [help] blah |
| 23:56.15 | Xinhuan | i specifically put [mod:alt,target=player] in front of [help] |
| 23:56.19 | Xinhuan | so that it checks that first |
| 23:56.30 | Xinhuan | instead, you rearranged it so that [help] is in front, so it checks that first |
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| 23:57.23 | syeren | Okay, thanks. |
| 23:57.26 | syeren | Works now :> |
| 23:57.27 | Xinhuan | if your last 2 spells are going to be the same |
| 23:57.33 | Xinhuan | you can shorten it further |
| 23:57.44 | Xinhuan | /cast [harm] Hex; [mod:alt,target=player] [help] Healing Wave |
| 23:57.45 | Xinhuan | like that |
| 23:57.58 | Xinhuan | to indicate that those 2 [] conditions are for Healing Wave, and to check in that order |
| 23:58.19 | Xinhuan | all [] conditions are checked from left-->right, the first matching one casts the spell after it |
| 23:59.15 | Xinhuan | also, its of note that the [help] is redundant and can be shorted to [] (empty brackets) |
| 23:59.21 | Xinhuan | /cast [harm] Hex; [mod:alt,target=player] [] Healing Wave |
| 23:59.39 | Xinhuan | because if it didn't match [harm] in the first place, it must match [help] ;p |
