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| 00:04.03 | Koben | font_string:SetShadowColor(0, 0, 0, 1) <--- Isn't the 1 supposed to represent Alpha? Changing it doesn't seem to do anything, even tried changing it to a 0. |
| 00:04.38 | vhaarr | rgba, yes |
| 00:04.45 | vhaarr | 1 is 100%, 0 is 0% |
| 00:05.16 | vhaarr | so 0,0,0,0.9 is good for a black shadow, for example |
| 00:05.32 | Koben | Right, but like I said, changing the 1 to a 0 did pretty much nothing |
| 00:05.38 | Koben | I can't alter the font shadow opacity for some reason |
| 00:05.47 | vhaarr | 0 would make it invisible, obviously |
| 00:05.51 | Koben | It didn't. |
| 00:06.03 | Hirsute | I don't think font strings respect the alpha |
| 00:06.24 | Hirsute | Could be wrong though, just seemed to remember some discussion about that before. |
| 00:06.27 | vhaarr | really, then why do I set my font shadows to 0.9 instead of 1 |
| 00:06.32 | vhaarr | perhaps it's just a habit |
| 00:06.55 | Koben | Does that mean there's no way to control the opacity of outlines/shadows? |
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| 00:16.37 | Koben | Erm, that's a problem. Apparently Pitbull4 doesn't make any distinction between white and yellow damage on the combat text? |
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| 00:17.49 | Groktar | steals Koben's bike |
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| 00:19.24 | Koben | I was hoping to keep that functionality |
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| 00:39.05 | Koben | ckknight or whomever: Can you show me what I did wrong here in trying to incorporate yellow damage? |
| 00:39.06 | Koben | http://www.pastey.net/111186 |
| 00:39.32 | ckknight | what is type? |
| 00:39.40 | ckknight | and if it's a mask, shouldn't be using a binary and? |
| 00:40.02 | Koben | It's copied code as a result of my ineptitude and hodgepodgery |
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| 00:40.11 | Koben | But you can see what I'm trying to do, yes? |
| 00:40.48 | Koben | Basically things that are activated abilities for melee classes (like mutilate) and spells should be yellow |
| 00:42.57 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03ckknight 07master * 463d340 Modules/ComboPoints/ComboPoints.lua: [+1 commit] revert the combo points change to show points on the vehicle frame, I was confused. |
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| 00:44.04 | Koben | If you could help me out with this, I would appreciate it. It's the final step in duplicating Bliz's combat feedback (that I know of). |
| 00:46.21 | Axodious | anyone else having problems connecting with a battle.net account? |
| 00:48.04 | ppilatee | i did when i first converted, it was solved by resetting my IE to default settings |
| 00:48.10 | ppilatee | makes no sense whatsoever |
| 00:48.29 | Koben | I tried changing it to "elseif ( type ~= SCHOOL_MASK_PHYSICAL + STRING_SCHOOL_MAGIC) then" as you recommended ckknight but it didn't seem to help |
| 00:48.47 | ckknight | addition isn't right |
| 00:48.50 | ckknight | you want binary or |
| 00:48.54 | ckknight | and you want to check with a binary and |
| 00:49.08 | ckknight | bor and band are the functions you should use |
| 00:50.11 | Koben | Is there a symbol for bor or do I literally replace the + sign with bor |
| 00:50.42 | Koben | I'm guessing the former since I just go an error. |
| 00:51.17 | Koben | I guess I should try testing with String_school_magic on its own to make sure this is even going to work |
| 00:52.05 | Arrowmaster | look at the blizzard combatlog |
| 00:52.25 | Arrowmaster | bit.bor bit.band |
| 00:52.35 | Koben | The raw combat log I assume? |
| 00:52.42 | Arrowmaster | no the addon |
| 00:53.25 | Koben | What do I extract a pub file with? |
| 00:53.44 | Gnarfoz | nothing |
| 00:53.47 | Gnarfoz | ~framexml |
| 00:53.47 | purl | Get the official Blizzard Interface AddOn Kit here: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ui/ or view it online at http://wowcompares.com/ |
| 00:53.53 | Gnarfoz | you need that --^ |
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| 00:56.26 | Koben | The only reference to it is a single line of code that says local bit_bor = _G.bit.bor |
| 00:56.39 | Gnarfoz | yep. |
| 00:57.30 | Koben | Whatever that's supposed to tell me is lost on me |
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| 00:58.50 | Arrowmaster | so look at where bit_bor is used |
| 00:59.32 | Koben | Oh I see.. shit, it doesn't look like it's even going to be relevant though |
| 00:59.50 | Koben | Trying just 'elseif ( type ~= STRING_SCHOOL_MAGIC) then' alone doesn't yellow the text like I want |
| 00:59.53 | Arrowmaster | its used all over that file |
| 01:00.07 | Koben | No I mean it wouldn't work anyway |
| 01:01.04 | Koben | Ah wait.. I think I need to copy the strings table. |
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| 01:06.41 | Koben | No, that didn't work either. |
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| 01:13.07 | Koben | elseif event == "SPELL_DAMAGE" then Didn't work either. |
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| 01:17.10 | RaydenUni | i updated all my mods and now they are being annoying |
| 01:17.10 | RaydenUni | grr |
| 01:18.10 | RaydenUni | stuff i had disabled, like swatter and enchantrix, are back |
| 01:20.10 | RaydenUni | hmm |
| 01:20.11 | RaydenUni | DBM is still broken |
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| 01:40.41 | waallen | Is anyone still missing auto-attack melee damage data from his stats in Skada? |
| 01:50.12 | RaydenUni | omg |
| 01:50.12 | RaydenUni | we've wiped like 4 times on the initial plague trash |
| 01:51.12 | Stanzilla | epic fail |
| 01:52.17 | Xinhuan | [09:51:14] [2. Trade] [Cashmoneey]: Come To the Ironforge Casino ironicaly located at the ironforge bridge! Minimum bid is 100 gold and max is 300g. Roll 1-6 and get a free reroll, roll 58-90 and get double gold , roll 91-100 for triple!PST for an invite!. |
| 01:52.29 | Xinhuan | can some maths genious determine if that is a average win or average lose |
| 01:52.29 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 01:53.37 | Shadowed | hum |
| 01:53.46 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r28 ChargeMeter.lua: one print a name once, less spam = good |
| 01:54.07 | Shadowed | 0.47% chance |
| 01:54.08 | Shadowed | if at that |
| 01:54.12 | RaydenUni | grr |
| 01:54.12 | RaydenUni | 1 hour after raid officially started |
| 01:54.12 | RaydenUni | we've killed 2 groups |
| 01:54.24 | ppilatee | wotlk r hard |
| 01:54.41 | Shadowed | it's funny how it looks like the odds are really good |
| 01:54.56 | Xinhuan | well i assume you ignore 1-6 |
| 01:55.04 | Xinhuan | since you reroll, only 7-100 matters |
| 01:55.31 | Shadowed | If you ignore that, it's 41% |
| 01:55.41 | Xinhuan | so 94 combinations, 51 of them loses, 33 of them wins double, and 10 of them wins triple |
| 01:56.48 | Xinhuan | lua> 51/94*0+ 33/94*2 + 10/94*3 |
| 01:56.49 | lua_bot | Xinhuan: 1.0212765957447 |
| 01:57.14 | Xinhuan | the average is telling me if you bet infinite times, you win in the long run? |
| 01:57.35 | Xinhuan | or is my math flawed? |
| 01:57.54 | Shadowed | good to know |
| 01:57.59 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r20 / (2 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist |
| 01:58.02 | Repo | -added ruRU and zhTW locales |
| 01:58.45 | Xinhuan | if 1-6 is a free reroll, might as well just /random 7 100 directly lol |
| 01:58.54 | Xinhuan | or 1-93 |
| 01:59.08 | Xinhuan | 94* |
| 01:59.44 | Arrowmaster | just assume 1-6 is you get your money back |
| 02:00.56 | Arrowmaster | lua> 51/100*0 + 33/100*2 + 10/100*3 + 6/100*1 |
| 02:00.57 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 1.02 |
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| 02:04.33 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r29 ChargeMeter.lua: -don't make a new table every function call |
| 02:04.53 | Koben | Oh my god this is a nightmare, nothing works. |
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| 02:09.23 | Koben | I set an if that is supposed to change only magic to yellow text, and it changes it all to yellow text! |
| 02:09.34 | Koben | How does that make any sense? |
| 02:10.37 | Arrowmaster | where are you putting it? |
| 02:10.52 | Koben | Uhm.. just as it's own little string, it matters where I put it? |
| 02:10.58 | Koben | has an if and an end |
| 02:11.05 | Arrowmaster | yes it has to go into an addon |
| 02:11.14 | Arrowmaster | where are you putting it |
| 02:12.09 | Koben | Pitbull4's CombatText module. |
| 02:12.12 | Koben | Where everything else is |
| 02:12.28 | Koben | in the proper function |
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| 02:14.44 | Koben | http://www.pastey.net/111195 Here's the unaltered code, what I'm trying to do is make this line of code 'if ( type ~= STRING_SCHOOL_MAGIC) then' make the font color yellow. |
| 02:15.48 | Koben | Actually sorry that's slightly altered code, line 22 is normally red |
| 02:15.57 | Arrowmaster | i dont think thats possible |
| 02:16.04 | Koben | Erm.. why not? |
| 02:17.05 | Koben | I tried deleting lines 21-25 but that only made it so my magic code turned all damage yellow. |
| 02:17.05 | Arrowmaster | hold on |
| 02:17.39 | Koben | Which I didn't undertand |
| 02:17.41 | Koben | understand* |
| 02:19.31 | Arrowmaster | what is STRING_SCHOOL_MAGIC |
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| 02:21.18 | Koben | It's defined in Blizzard_CombatLog as a catch-all for magic, I tried adding the local SchoolStringTable thing that was in there but it didn't have any affect, so I'm guessing it's there by default. |
| 02:21.31 | Arrowmaster | except you arent using the combatlog |
| 02:21.33 | Koben | [SCHOOL_MASK_FIRE + SCHOOL_MASK_FROST + SCHOOL_MASK_ARCANE + SCHOOL_MASK_NATURE + SCHOOL_MASK_SHADOW + SCHOOL_MASK_HOLY]= STRING_SCHOOL_MAGIC, |
| 02:21.48 | Koben | Like I said I added the the string table that was in there |
| 02:21.52 | Koben | It didn't change anything |
| 02:22.15 | Koben | Unless I missed something else? |
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| 02:23.42 | Koben | I also tried if ( event == "SPELL_DAMAGE" ) then, but that didn't seem to do anything. |
| 02:24.11 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: your argument names fucking suck |
| 02:24.42 | Xinhuan | technically Koben, anything that isn't a melee swing is yellow damage |
| 02:24.51 | Xinhuan | or am i mistaken? |
| 02:25.05 | Koben | Right, that's what I'm trying to go for, but one step at a time.. |
| 02:25.12 | Xinhuan | that is, all spells and abilities are yellow |
| 02:25.21 | Arrowmaster | no you dont take it one step at a time |
| 02:25.22 | Xinhuan | only MELEE_SWING is white? |
| 02:25.31 | Arrowmaster | they are extremely different things you dont step between them |
| 02:25.44 | Arrowmaster | you say exactly what you are trying to do |
| 02:25.49 | Koben | Uhm, I'm just trying to get this font color to change color on an event I specify |
| 02:26.01 | Koben | Once I had that working, I was going to figure out how to be more specific. |
| 02:26.03 | Arrowmaster | EXACTLY |
| 02:26.05 | Arrowmaster | WHAT EVENT |
| 02:26.06 | Koben | But I never got that working. |
| 02:26.14 | ckknight | Arrowmaster: argument names? |
| 02:26.17 | Xinhuan | so, if event == "MELEE_SWING" then white else yellow ? |
| 02:26.31 | Xinhuan | (if its called MELEE_SWING) |
| 02:26.31 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: yes, function PitBull4_CombatText:UNIT_COMBAT(_, unit, event, flags, amount, type) |
| 02:26.35 | Arrowmaster | thats fucking terible |
| 02:26.55 | ckknight | howso? |
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| 02:27.18 | Arrowmaster | event for something thats not the event everybody else thinks of as event, and using type |
| 02:27.57 | Koben | Just tried that Xin, didn't work.. turned all text yellow again. |
| 02:28.12 | Koben | Even normal melee swings |
| 02:28.19 | Xinhuan | well i dont' know if the event is actually called MELEE_SWING |
| 02:28.26 | Xinhuan | and you might be checking the wrong argument |
| 02:28.51 | Xinhuan | because in ace3, the first arg is the event name, the 3rd arg is the actual combat sub event |
| 02:28.53 | Arrowmaster | its not MELEE_SWING |
| 02:29.02 | Koben | Arrow: What I was trying to say is I was just trying to affect the combat text at a basic level. I have not been able to accomplish that so far. |
| 02:29.13 | Koben | Nothing I tried has worked |
| 02:29.14 | Arrowmaster | this is UNIT_COMBAT not CLEU |
| 02:29.37 | Xinhuan | ok then what has UNIT_COMBAT got to do with damage numbers? |
| 02:30.21 | Arrowmaster | SPELL_DAMAGE is a proper one |
| 02:30.29 | Koben | That hasn't worked.. |
| 02:30.39 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 02:30.47 | Xinhuan | i'm willing to bet he's screwing with the totally wrong event |
| 02:30.54 | Arrowmaster | what exactly got colored that you dont think it should |
| 02:31.01 | Arrowmaster | hes not |
| 02:31.15 | Arrowmaster | because ckknight used stupid argument names |
| 02:31.33 | Arrowmaster | function PitBull4_CombatText:UNIT_COMBAT(_, unit, event, flags, amount, type) |
| 02:32.16 | Koben | http://pastey.net/111197 Here's the code I'm trying right now. |
| 02:32.48 | Arrowmaster | what did you change? |
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| 02:33.27 | Arrowmaster | 21-25 is yours? |
| 02:33.42 | Koben | yes, but I replaced 21-25 on this: http://www.pastey.net/111195 |
| 02:34.18 | Arrowmaster | how did it not work? |
| 02:35.28 | Koben | Normally line 22 defines red in that pastey I just sent, I changed it to white (which is default anyway I learned). Anyway, I tried adding some elseifs in there for spell damage and it didn't have any affect. So I deleted the lines and it still worked normally. It's the only way I've been able to affect anything at all. |
| 02:37.29 | Xinhuan | wtb an addon that can hide casino-related chat |
| 02:37.46 | Koben | In the pastey with my terrible code it won't change spell damage to yellow |
| 02:38.12 | Arrowmaster | you realize it changes the color elsewhere |
| 02:38.14 | Koben | If I swap the colors around it makes all the damage yellow which shows that atleast the 'else' is working. |
| 02:44.22 | Koben | It doesn't seem to be recognizing SPELL_DAMAGE as an event |
| 02:44.31 | Xinhuan | i'm willing to bet he's screwing with the totally wrong event |
| 02:44.56 | Xinhuan | (by wrong event, i mean wrong function, since the function is UNIT_COMBAT, the name of an event) |
| 02:45.29 | syeren | I see you've been hustlin', ckknight. |
| 02:45.40 | ckknight | it's what I do |
| 02:45.56 | syeren | When you code, do you put on Hustlin' |
| 02:45.57 | syeren | ? |
| 02:46.15 | syeren | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ropEoGYfh7M |
| 02:46.20 | syeren | If you don't know the song. |
| 02:48.13 | Koben | I've been ramming my head against this for the past 3 hours (at one point crying) and haven't been able to make any significant impact. |
| 02:48.53 | Koben | I'm very frustrated. |
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| 02:51.10 | Koben | Any help would be appreciated, I'm eager to get this combat feedback thing done with. |
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| 03:07.28 | Koben | ckknight: If I donated like 5 bucks would you include an option to change the red damage numbers from the combat text module in Pitbull4 to be colored in traditional white for melee swings and yellow for everything else? |
| 03:08.20 | ckknight | wouldn't that make me the equivalent of a whore? |
| 03:08.44 | sacarasc | You're not one already? |
| 03:08.52 | ckknight | touché |
| 03:09.29 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r30 ChargeMeter.lua: -show the count of charges each person crossed |
| 03:09.30 | Gngsk | é! |
| 03:11.20 | Koben | Is that a no? |
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| 03:17.33 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03TAP3AH 06tap3ah * r29 / (19 files in 12 directories): mainline content updated to r20090330004237 |
| 03:19.29 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r181 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:19.32 | Repo | make gossip options work, not localized yet, enUS only for alchy daily for ArgentCrusade. need more testing to make sure looping works as intended. |
| 03:19.39 | RaydenUni | ok |
| 03:19.47 | RaydenUni | feral druid should have it's own form |
| 03:19.49 | RaydenUni | like |
| 03:19.52 | RaydenUni | feral wolverine |
| 03:19.58 | RaydenUni | cause resto and balance have special forms |
| 03:20.04 | orionshock | dire kitty form? |
| 03:20.13 | RaydenUni | but not a kitty |
| 03:20.16 | RaydenUni | something else |
| 03:20.24 | RaydenUni | dire badger |
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| 03:29.54 | theoddone33 | is there a mod that makes the train sound disappear? |
| 03:30.05 | theoddone33 | because idiots in my guild bought that thing that makes the whole raid do /train |
| 03:30.12 | theoddone33 | and it makes me want to stab people |
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| 03:36.18 | Koben | ckknight: Was that a no? |
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| 03:42.00 | ckknight | Global warming is a serious issue. Due to global warming, Eskimos are losing 7 words for snow _each year_. |
| 03:42.31 | ckknight | Koben: so you want what you did in by default, then? |
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| 03:44.13 | sylvanaar | do they write those names in the snow? |
| 03:45.09 | Koben | ckknight: Basically what the Blizzard player frame does. It makes damage yellow except for autoattack swings, which are white |
| 03:45.45 | Koben | i.e. white damage and yellow damage as the pve'ers say |
| 03:47.03 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/idhitthat/. idHitThat. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Kaelten. |
| 03:47.31 | tekkub | WTB auto-approval for certain users :P |
| 03:49.01 | BWMerlin | tekkub: just the person who should be able to answer my question |
| 03:49.06 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * eef71f4 / (5 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 03:49.09 | Repo | eef71f4: Implement profile saving and loading. |
| 03:49.12 | Repo | f4cdf85: Add code for creating the Save/Load/Compare/Send profile frame. |
| 03:49.16 | tekkub | you're fucked |
| 03:49.28 | tekkub | I used to say "buy a mac" but that doesn't fit anymore I guess |
| 03:50.16 | BWMerlin | i have tour guide recorder installed and afaik its running and recording |
| 03:50.32 | BWMerlin | what file/s do i submit 2 you so you can use it in creating tourguide? |
| 03:52.12 | tekkub | the savedvariables file |
| 03:52.30 | tekkub | I have lots of horde data already, and ally is done except icecrown |
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| 03:55.14 | BWMerlin | ok, i was going to submit all my horde data |
| 03:55.33 | BWMerlin | the savedvariables is per character correct? |
| 03:55.35 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r136 / (13 files in 3 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 03:55.38 | Repo | - rewriting from scratch, do not use this! |
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| 03:56.43 | falconindy | Hey all. What's the best way to remove a specific element from a table if you don't the position? It wouldn't be a big table -- never more than a half dozen elements. |
| 03:57.10 | Shirik | depends on your definition of "remove" |
| 03:57.59 | falconindy | Uh... I want the key and value out of the table entirely. |
| 03:59.31 | falconindy | the keys are mob GUIDs, so table.remove isn't going to be useful |
| 03:59.39 | falconindy | well, not immediately useful |
| 04:00.50 | BWMerlin | someone needs to go and prune some of these curse client tickets |
| 04:01.11 | BWMerlin | atm i have found 4-5 tickets that are the same for the issues of the client appearing as a blank window |
| 04:01.22 | orionshock | falconindy: table[key] = nil |
| 04:01.24 | BWMerlin | probably a dozen about the curse profiler installing |
| 04:01.50 | orionshock | falconindy: do u know what the key is or do you want the thing removed depending on value? |
| 04:02.25 | falconindy | i know what the key is, but i want it removed based on events. |
| 04:03.01 | orionshock | .. ok, in the even part that u want to remove it just nill out the value. that removes it from the table |
| 04:03.24 | falconindy | excellent, thanks |
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| 04:06.17 | sylvanaar | once Ntickets > Nmax then Ntickets becomes infinity |
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| 04:14.26 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r182 core.lua: add toggle for debug. debug disabled in alpha+ |
| 04:14.53 | RaydenUni | augh |
| 04:14.56 | RaydenUni | stupid pudding in KT |
| 04:15.06 | RaydenUni | i was tanking KT and the two adds just fine |
| 04:15.15 | RaydenUni | and then pudding popped up underneath the adds |
| 04:19.48 | BWMerlin | pudding = void zone? |
| 04:19.51 | pompy | arggh, we jus lost our immortal run, such bs |
| 04:21.59 | RaydenUni | yeah |
| 04:22.04 | RaydenUni | where did the word pudding come from? |
| 04:22.28 | BWMerlin | we lost out immortal run early on |
| 04:22.46 | BWMerlin | doing instructor the MC's dropped and he came running through all the dps |
| 04:23.16 | RaydenUni | razuvious sucks |
| 04:23.22 | RaydenUni | our guild could never do immortal |
| 04:23.28 | RaydenUni | some people cannot survive heigan |
| 04:25.50 | BWMerlin | i sat that fight out just so i wouldnt screw it up |
| 04:25.59 | BWMerlin | its not that i dont know it or cant do it |
| 04:26.04 | BWMerlin | i just didnt want 2 fuck it up |
| 04:28.35 | ckknight | hey, I wanna make a new poll |
| 04:28.46 | ckknight | "What's your favorite alcoholic drink?" |
| 04:29.01 | ckknight | anyone have any suggestions for choices? |
| 04:30.55 | orionshock | jack n' coke? |
| 04:31.03 | ckknight | my favorite is a Bloody Mary |
| 04:31.22 | axodious^ | rum'n'coke? |
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| 04:31.31 | axodious^ | zombies! |
| 04:32.43 | ckknight | Zombie: 1/2 oz Bacardi® 151 rum, 1 oz pineapple juice, 1 oz orange juice, 1/2 oz apricot brandy, 1 tsp sugar, 2 oz light rum, 1 oz dark rum, 1 oz lime juice |
| 04:33.10 | todd | Xinhuan: ping/pm |
| 04:37.00 | Arrowmaster | i dont see the point of mixed drinks, more fun to drink it straight |
| 04:37.23 | Groktar | pounces the unsuspecting Arrowmaster from behind |
| 04:37.48 | RaydenUni | tastes good |
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| 04:38.08 | Groktar | should mix them with some Gamer Grub |
| 04:38.09 | Groktar | imo |
| 04:38.32 | Arrowmaster | does it burn on the way down |
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| 04:46.48 | Gnarfoz | ckknight: make sure to include a "stupid alcoholics" option ^^ |
| 04:46.57 | ckknight | ...no |
| 04:47.02 | RaydenUni | soco and coke is super tasty i discovered |
| 04:47.05 | RaydenUni | much better than jack |
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| 04:47.37 | BWMerlin | what about those of us who dont drink? |
| 04:48.17 | orionshock | BWMerlin: then there is prolly something wrong with u :) |
| 04:48.19 | Gnarfoz | BWMerlin: that's what I was asking for :p |
| 04:48.30 | Gnarfoz | orionshock: the other way around, actually |
| 04:49.11 | ckknight | BWMerlin: you don't participate in the poll |
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| 04:49.34 | Gnarfoz | that's not how you do polls btw |
| 04:49.44 | Repo | 10morg-dkp2: 03Morgalm * r75 / (6 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 04:49.46 | Repo | MorgDKP2 |
| 04:49.49 | Repo | -added Ulduar triggers |
| 04:49.52 | Repo | -updated frFR thanks Kromdhar |
| 04:49.56 | Repo | -added special chest detection |
| 04:50.03 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: ...why's that? |
| 04:50.41 | Gnarfoz | why would you not offer a "none" option? |
| 04:51.03 | Gnarfoz | that being different from the "no preference" option, obviously |
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| 04:51.27 | Gnarfoz | overall, let me rephrase: I think it's a bad idea for a poll :P |
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| 04:55.38 | Stanzilla | ckknight: Vodka Coke / Vodka Bull |
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| 05:05.28 | ckknight | Gnarfoz: I don't see why. |
| 05:06.16 | Arrowmaster | its mature content |
| 05:09.55 | ckknight | ...so? |
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| 05:16.54 | todd | Xinhuan seems to be afk but maybe someone else can answer my question...I have an addon here that I may like to redistribute (add as a bonus to a WoW product that I sell online)...was just wondering if I need to seek special permission from the Author even if the addon is placed under the GNU General Public License? |
| 05:17.09 | todd | It says here in the TSP.lua that the program (addon) can be redistributed and/or modified under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation. Just wanted to make sure that is the case so I don't get into any legal trouble here...Thanks in advance. |
| 05:19.09 | Civrock | "[...] that I sell online" â "Free Software" |
| 05:19.20 | Axodious | wow |
| 05:19.27 | Axodious | i just had an error box appear in vista |
| 05:19.33 | Axodious | "microsoft windows has stopped responding" |
| 05:19.35 | Axodious | lol |
| 05:22.44 | todd | Civrock: pm |
| 05:26.04 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r56 / (5 files in 5 directories): |
| 05:26.07 | Repo | ZOMGBuffs: Resolved PP comms problem with it not picking up Kings. Fixed a problem with portalz module occasionally freaking out. Some initial patching to make it work for PTR (kings for all), will do it over properly once we're live and I can drop the old code. Added Seal of the Martyr. |
| 05:26.35 | Axodious | @project zomgbuffs |
| 05:26.44 | Axodious | ! |
| 05:26.46 | Repo | Axodious: http://www.wowace.com/projects/zomgbuffs/. ZOMGBuffs. Game: WoW. Zeksie (Manager/Author). Updated: 15 days ago. Tickets: 33/46 |
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| 05:27.35 | Axodious | hm |
| 05:27.44 | Axodious | this zomgbuff is compatable with PP? |
| 05:28.17 | syeren | Pally Power should be replaced. |
| 05:28.21 | syeren | By Shadowed's addon. |
| 05:28.30 | syeren | Looks superior, and from what most people say, it is |
| 05:28.41 | Axodious | yeah PP as of recently hasn't been what i remember it to be |
| 05:28.42 | Axodious | :( |
| 05:29.10 | Axodious | shadoweds = zeksie? |
| 05:29.14 | Axodious | or different addon |
| 05:29.30 | syeren | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info12734-PaladinBuffer.html |
| 05:30.28 | syeren | Shadowed idles in the channel, and generally makes good stuff! |
| 05:31.04 | Axodious | i idle in the channel and bitch |
| 05:31.18 | Vonhinten | I still use pally power |
| 05:31.25 | robotusch | hm |
| 05:31.39 | Axodious | i use it, just because i didn't know there were other addons that had the functionality it had |
| 05:31.43 | robotusch | PB looks kinda win |
| 05:32.03 | Axodious | the main problems i have with it are use in combat |
| 05:32.10 | syeren | Well Shadowed used Pally Power, realised how bad it is, and went to EJ and asked on the forum for input. |
| 05:32.23 | Axodious | pre wrath if someone died and you ressed them |
| 05:32.32 | Axodious | in PP you could rebuff them just by hovering over them |
| 05:32.39 | Axodious | doesnt work anymore :( |
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| 05:33.40 | Vonhinten | You can click on their frame when you hover over the class buff |
| 05:33.57 | Axodious | yeah but it doesnt always work in combat anymore |
| 05:34.04 | Axodious | sometimes the frame gets locked out in combat |
| 05:34.09 | Axodious | (not all the time i might add) |
| 05:34.19 | Vonhinten | hm |
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| 05:55.33 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie 04Maintenance Release (for 3.0.9) * r57 : Tagging as Maintenance Release (for 3.0.9) |
| 05:56.34 | Axodious | im liking the looks of this addon syeren |
| 06:06.09 | Repo | 10magic-comm: 03dhedbor * r55 MagicComm/MagicComm.lua: - Added support for DKP Balance and item data for dkp bid. |
| 06:07.02 | Repo | 10magic-dkp_client: 03dhedbor * r51 / (2 files in 1 directory): [*]Removed debug text. |
| 06:07.05 | Repo | [*]Added support for bid balance display and item bid history displays. |
| 06:11.33 | Neebler | we shal cut spending to only the bare essentials! water and bread and margaritas, yay |
| 06:13.08 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r126 / (5 files in 3 directories): (Message trimmed by 5 lines) |
| 06:13.11 | Repo | [*]Re-organized options into smaller pages rather than one large page. |
| 06:13.14 | Repo | [*]Added option to not send messages to MagicDKP Client about bids. |
| 06:13.17 | Repo | [*]Added option to disable standby calls. |
| 06:13.20 | Repo | [*]Added initial support for multiple dkp pools. |
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| 06:16.12 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r127 Database/Database.lua: |
| 06:16.15 | Repo | [*]Added whisper commands to get dkp status and item bid summary data. |
| 06:16.18 | Repo | [*]Added functions to adjust a players DKP. |
| 06:16.21 | Repo | [*]Added config page with various options. |
| 06:17.22 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r128 Locales/enUS.lua: MagicDKP Database locale phrases. |
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| 06:29.27 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5077 Ulduar (11 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 06:29.30 | Repo | Ulduar: |
| 06:29.33 | Repo | - Mimiron: add phase4 warn |
| 06:29.36 | Repo | - Fix trigger for engage & end |
| 06:29.39 | Repo | - Razorscale: add simple warn |
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| 06:31.20 | BWMerlin | I have always used zomgbuffs |
| 06:31.37 | Repo | 10magiclooter: 03dhedbor * r20 Modules/LootMenu/LootMenu.lua: [*]Made an accidental global function local. |
| 06:31.39 | BWMerlin | but then again i have only just started a pally so idk how zomg works with pally buffs |
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| 06:46.03 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r137 / (14 files in 3 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 06:46.06 | Repo | - Added (empty) Options, .pkmeta, event amounts |
| 06:46.39 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5078 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): Ulduar: |
| 06:46.42 | Repo | - Fix Ignis error |
| 06:46.44 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: so if someone bids and gets an item, does database show the updated amount? |
| 06:46.45 | Repo | - koKR Update |
| 06:48.34 | Groktar | sniffs Repo |
| 06:48.47 | Groktar | nibbles a little on Repo's soul |
| 06:49.50 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: yes |
| 06:50.22 | NeoTron | it does require updated downloads for earned dkp atm |
| 06:52.38 | nevcairiel | i assumed that |
| 06:54.27 | nevcairiel | In your system, how much do people pay if they are the only bidder? |
| 06:54.58 | NeoTron | new bid dialog: http://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp_client/images/1-dkp-bid-dialog/ |
| 06:55.02 | NeoTron | 1 |
| 06:55.20 | NeoTron | I don't have "min bid" support in the client / bidder yet |
| 06:55.33 | NeoTron | nor do I handle "pays winner +1" type sitution atm |
| 06:55.40 | NeoTron | the actual price you pay is entered manually |
| 06:56.07 | nevcairiel | we have a 20%-of-total-dkp rule, i was wondering if i should hack that into the bidder for our guildmates, so i they can't bid below it and i don't have to double check |
| 06:57.02 | NeoTron | seems trivial to add |
| 06:57.19 | NeoTron | I'll probably add a min dkp setting and it could be absolute or relative I suppose |
| 06:57.37 | nevcairiel | that requires an up2date database, of course |
| 06:57.42 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r138 .pkmeta: YurrCombatLog: |
| 06:57.43 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 06:57.46 | Repo | - fix .pkmeta (?) |
| 06:58.01 | nevcairiel | copystring_: its pkgmeta, with g :) |
| 06:58.02 | NeoTron | I need to make a downloader that I own copyright on OR get persmission to use the GetDKP one |
| 06:58.40 | copystring_ | doh! thats why it's not working :> thx nevcairiel |
| 06:59.13 | NeoTron | oh and |
| 06:59.27 | NeoTron | yeah no happy joy in getting the eqdkp plus to import my format |
| 06:59.36 | NeoTron | I'll probably end up supporting their export format though |
| 07:00.07 | nevcairiel | did you contact them or try to hack it in yourself? |
| 07:00.10 | NeoTron | if only they have a XSD schema that wasn't fail |
| 07:00.16 | NeoTron | contact them no. hack myself no |
| 07:00.21 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r139 / (2 files in 1 directory): YurrCombatLog: |
| 07:00.24 | Repo | - it is .pkgmeta not .pkmeta doh! |
| 07:00.30 | NeoTron | but if I did I'd probably make my own importer vs hacking it into theirs |
| 07:00.45 | NeoTron | they still stick to the "guess who was at the boss kill by checking the join/leave logs" method which is really dumb |
| 07:00.52 | NeoTron | since I actually KNOW who was there.. :P |
| 07:01.30 | nevcairiel | yeah well we don't use that :) we just build up a timeline, split it into full hours, and then look which kills where in that hour :D |
| 07:05.39 | sb|work | morning |
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| 07:09.39 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r485 view.lua: |
| 07:09.42 | Repo | Show spec description text or target name if a target template exists. |
| 07:10.29 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v2.0-beta2-3.1-9733-only * r486 : Tagging as v2.0-beta2-3.1-9733-only |
| 07:11.04 | NeoTron | still has no time export except MagicDKP XML format |
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| 07:31.45 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Elkano * r159 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 07:31.49 | Repo | [Consumable.Buff.Spell Damage.Self] fixed Spellpower Elixir (replaced the spellid by the itemid) |
| 07:31.51 | Repo | [GearSet.PvP.Arena5.Tier 1.Mage.Savage Gladiator's Regalia] bugfix (replaced a . with a ,) |
| 07:31.54 | Elkano | ~seen nymbia |
| 07:31.57 | purl | nymbia <n=nymbia@c-67-165-238-170.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 30d 3h 10m 39s ago, saying: 'well, what's kinda nice about some of the code i've got'. |
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| 07:34.50 | sb|work | nevcairiel: hm, do you expect legendary shards to drop in 10s hardmode? :o |
| 07:36.59 | nevcairiel | no |
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| 07:50.56 | nevcairiel | NeoTron: does it always ask for wipes, or can i turn that off? |
| 07:52.05 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r129 Database/Database.lua: Removed unused function. |
| 07:52.08 | Fisker- | likes nevcairiel |
| 07:53.37 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r130 / (2 files in 1 directory): [*]Added zone and item level MultiDKP pool overrides. |
| 07:53.49 | NeoTron | nevcairiel: it does in fact never ask for it explicedly |
| 07:53.59 | NeoTron | one of those things I never implemented |
| 07:54.00 | nevcairiel | the options sounded like it would |
| 07:54.07 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 07:54.16 | nevcairiel | also |
| 07:54.17 | NeoTron | yeah. I just disabled the option for that reason - it doesn't do anything :P |
| 07:54.31 | NeoTron | the idea was that you marked each boss as "farm mode" to disable wipe dkp |
| 07:54.32 | nevcairiel | after setting manual alts using /md alt |
| 07:54.33 | nevcairiel | MagicDKP-MagicDKP-1.0\Config.lua:113: attempt to index local 'DB' (a nil value) |
| 07:55.12 | NeoTron | weird |
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| 07:55.33 | NeoTron | oh not werid at all |
| 07:55.44 | nevcairiel | got that on the players config page |
| 07:55.47 | nevcairiel | after setting alts |
| 07:56.13 | nevcairiel | persists after reload |
| 07:56.24 | NeoTron | right |
| 07:56.33 | NeoTron | don't have MagicDKP Database enabled? |
| 07:56.46 | nevcairiel | It should be loaded |
| 07:56.49 | nevcairiel | but no data import |
| 07:57.06 | nevcairiel | hm wait |
| 07:57.16 | nevcairiel | no i forgot to move it into its own folder |
| 07:57.20 | nevcairiel | thats what you get for svn exports |
| 07:57.21 | NeoTron | svn? |
| 07:57.25 | NeoTron | yeah |
| 07:57.38 | NeoTron | I disabled it from loading via modules.xml since it uses its own saved var file |
| 07:57.48 | NeoTron | so it wouldn't work embedded |
| 07:58.14 | nevcairiel | yeah i was lazy and added that var to the magicdkp.toc |
| 07:58.21 | nevcairiel | didnt realize you removed it from the xml too =) |
| 07:58.50 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r131 Config.lua: |
| 07:58.53 | Repo | [*]Fixed bug in config when MagicDKP Database isn't enabled. |
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| 07:59.22 | NeoTron | bug is fixed regardless. :P |
| 07:59.28 | NeoTron | should test stuff w/o the addon heh |
| 07:59.54 | nevcairiel | i should get that getdkp tool and test the data import |
| 08:01.09 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r487 Locales/koKR.lua: Update koKR |
| 08:02.32 | NeoTron | ok now it's fixed |
| 08:02.34 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r132 Config.lua: |
| 08:02.36 | Repo | [*]Fixed another bug in the config when MagicDKP Database isn't enabled. |
| 08:03.01 | NeoTron | I fixed a few bugs in getdkp.php.. do you use eqdkp plus? if not I don't know if the exporter works |
| 08:03.13 | NeoTron | I was going to write a more basic exporter for people just using eqdkp |
| 08:03.14 | nevcairiel | i do |
| 08:03.47 | nevcairiel | I have a whole git overlay fixing bugs in eqdkp plus, fixing one more file isnt that big of a deal |
| 08:04.29 | Fisker- | hits nevcairiel |
| 08:06.07 | Elkano | wrt git, I should update my tortoisegit ^^ |
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| 08:20.47 | padd173 | How do I tell Cartographer not to display unexplored areas as explored? |
| 08:23.06 | do3mca | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:24.53 | Repo | 10bubbleloot: 03bubblecannon * r3 / (69 files in 17 directories): version 0.3 mass merge |
| 08:25.30 | Repo | 10bubbleloot: 03bubblecannon * r4 BubbleLoot/: Corrected directory paths |
| 08:26.07 | Grum | padd173: there is some 'fogclear' or similar module |
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| 08:36.20 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03Nevcairiel * r133 Config.lua: |
| 08:36.23 | Repo | Add some fallbacks if the server doesn't know the item we're requesting |
| 08:42.11 | NeoTron | ah right, the dkp history can include some positively ancient items too. should make it also look for the data in the MagicDKP item database when I get some spare time |
| 08:43.19 | nevcairiel | I wonder why my server didnt know them, its all naxxramas items |
| 08:43.24 | nevcairiel | maybe a wrong itemid in the db |
| 08:43.27 | nevcairiel | all possible |
| 08:43.48 | NeoTron | it might know them but not locally cached |
| 08:43.53 | NeoTron | so it needs a tooltip lookup |
| 08:43.57 | nevcairiel | true |
| 08:44.11 | nevcairiel | I had my cache reset last week |
| 08:44.18 | nevcairiel | when i reinstalled my wow |
| 08:44.47 | NeoTron | anyhow time to sleep |
| 08:44.55 | nevcairiel | night |
| 08:45.22 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r1928 / (4 files in 4 directories): Ulduar: Leviathan, Ignis |
| 08:47.43 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm 04v1.62 * r21 : Tagging as v1.62 |
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| 08:54.14 | padd173 | Grum: Thanks |
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| 09:27.25 | Repo | 10finklestein: 03mikk * r10 Finklestein.lua: Fix loc of Crystallized Hogsnot |
| 09:28.48 | Repo | 10finklestein: 03mikk 04r10-release * r11 : Tagging as r10-release |
| 09:29.08 | Kuja^ | ckknight: http://ace.pastey.net/111205 |
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| 09:32.48 | sb|work | @describe finklestein |
| 09:32.49 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/finklestein/. Finklestein daily serum quest helper. Shows on the minimap where to fetch Finklestein's reagents - always in the 2 lowest shelves for gnome friendliness. + Shows helpful "Ping" when you mouse over the right reagent + Always works in all... |
| 09:32.55 | sb|work | ah |
| 09:33.44 | nevcairiel | hogsnot, eh |
| 09:44.54 | Mikk | uh huh |
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| 09:46.34 | chosi | could someone fix wishlist please? :> |
| 09:46.41 | chosi | or is there some similar addon? |
| 09:49.57 | Mikk | @describe wishlist |
| 09:49.58 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wishlist/. Wishlist. Allows you to track multiple items that you want and keeps a list of the totals that are required. Use "/wl add [link]" to add a new item to your wishlist. Integrates into FuBar, uses AtlasLoot if... |
| 09:51.02 | sb|work | chosi: there is a wishlist in atlasloot |
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| 10:12.51 | digmouse | sb|work: different |
| 10:13.46 | sb|work | digmouse: huh? :) |
| 10:13.50 | Repo | 10bubbleloot: 03bubblecannon * r5 Libs/ (11 files in 11 directories): |
| 10:13.53 | Repo | removed hard-embedded libraries as per recommendation by cremor |
| 10:14.02 | digmouse | chosi: It's a Atlasloot data table issue, I'll ask some Aloot dev for help and try to fix it some time |
| 10:14.20 | chosi | oh |
| 10:14.26 | chosi | wishlist depends on atlasloot? |
| 10:14.35 | digmouse | sb|work: Wishlist mainly counts those bought with extra currencies, like honor and badge loots |
| 10:15.03 | digmouse | chosi: the errors are about Wishlist's Aloot table importing function |
| 10:15.38 | chosi | ah and this breaks the whole thing? |
| 10:15.47 | digmouse | some table contents of AtlasLoot changed since Wishlist's last update, so it cannot unpack required currency info from it |
| 10:15.56 | chosi | ah okay |
| 10:16.05 | digmouse | so it's only about one or two lines |
| 10:16.45 | Repo | 10bubbleloot: 03bubblecannon * r6 .pkgmeta: |
| 10:16.48 | Repo | Removed hard-embedded libraries and employed a .pkgmeta file as recommended by cremor. |
| 10:17.08 | digmouse | @describe bubbleloot |
| 10:17.09 | Repo | digmouse: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bubbleloot/. BubbleLoot. Overview BubbleLoot provides an automated mechanism to perform loot handling within PUG environments. It automates the listing of loot to the raid, handles bids via whisper or raid, displays the... |
| 10:17.31 | digmouse | huh, that sounds good for a master looter |
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| 10:21.40 | digmouse | @describe Spoils of war |
| 10:21.41 | Repo | digmouse: No project found that matches 'spoils' |
| 10:21.50 | digmouse | huh? |
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| 10:39.06 | Xinhuan | Civrock, ping |
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| 10:57.14 | Zhinjio | g'morning. |
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| 11:13.41 | chosi | zomfg 3.1 will allow to loot and use stuff with commands? |
| 11:13.44 | chosi | how awesome is that |
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| 11:15.24 | bubblecannon | hey guys. WTB some advice with .pkgmeta if possible. Should the curse release of your addon include the libraries included in the .pkgmeta? |
| 11:15.41 | thul | http://fc15.deviantart.com/fs44/i/2009/088/a/3/Selene_on_a_Chair_by_deadfishstudios.jpg <- how about them apples (nsfw) |
| 11:16.02 | bubblecannon | (because I'm just seeing the .pkgmeta in the curse zip and no libs - /fail) |
| 11:16.36 | Torhal | bubblecannon: There is no .pkgmeta in the zip. |
| 11:16.48 | Torhal | The packager uses it in construct the zip. |
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| 11:17.07 | bubblecannon | kk.. so I've fucked it up somehow.. damn.. it commits fine.. |
| 11:17.14 | Mytos | mornin |
| 11:17.26 | bubblecannon | hey myt |
| 11:17.32 | Torhal | You're committing the libraries. Don't. Remove them from the repository. It's ok to have locla copies. |
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| 11:17.47 | Torhal | Just tell the packager, via .pkgmeta, which libraries to include in the zip |
| 11:17.53 | Zhinjio | G'morning Torhal |
| 11:18.03 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yola. Just got diplomat. |
| 11:18.05 | bubblecannon | yep, thats what I did. I deleted the libs themselves from svn, and then included the .pkgmeta |
| 11:18.08 | Torhal | Fuckin' Timbermaw |
| 11:18.12 | Zhinjio | nice job. Yeah. |
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| 11:18.15 | bubblecannon | but the packager doesn't seem to be building the zip |
| 11:18.21 | bubblecannon | (ie. including the libs) |
| 11:18.27 | Torhal | What's the project? |
| 11:18.32 | bubblecannon | bubbleloot |
| 11:18.35 | Zhinjio | I still go back and pound on winterspring tiger rep every once in awhile. |
| 11:18.38 | bubblecannon | and thanks heaps for the helps torhal |
| 11:18.40 | Zhinjio | got diplomat awhile ago though |
| 11:18.42 | Torhal | Lemme grab via SVN and look at it. |
| 11:18.45 | bubblecannon | tx man |
| 11:19.32 | CrazyBenny | bubblecannon: did you check http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ ? theres all you need to know about it :P |
| 11:20.10 | bubblecannon | yep, i read it through.. but I found another addon that used an abbreviated syntax |
| 11:20.18 | bubblecannon | it could be that that's screwing up |
| 11:20.27 | Mytos | does anyone know how i would unequip dualweild twohanders in a macro, and hten equip a fishing pole |
| 11:20.50 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:21.28 | Mytos | if your dwing twohanders with titansgrip it errors and stops |
| 11:22.57 | Repo | 10bubbleloot: 03bubblecannon * r7 .pkgmeta: Altered .pkgmate to be verbose format |
| 11:23.16 | Torhal | bubblecannon: Don't use tabs in .pkgmeta |
| 11:23.23 | Torhal | Spaces only., |
| 11:23.41 | bubblecannon | ah crap.. I thought I'd only used spaces |
| 11:23.52 | Torhal | Your externals are indented with tabs :) |
| 11:24.09 | bubblecannon | cheers torhal.. so the validator doesn't bomb out with that? |
| 11:24.18 | Torhal | Shouldn't. |
| 11:24.38 | bubblecannon | wicked |
| 11:24.42 | bubblecannon | thanks heaps guys - all fixed |
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| 11:29.23 | Mytos | anyone got a suggestion without going for mods? |
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| 11:31.12 | selckin | allready found a macro todo it on google |
| 11:31.15 | selckin | took about 20 seconds |
| 11:32.56 | Mytos | which one, i found one that says itll do it but it doesnt work |
| 11:34.21 | selckin | like /run PickupInventoryItem(17); PutItemInBag(22), with correct numbers |
| 11:35.48 | Mytos | how do i find the right numbers |
| 11:35.53 | winkiller | I'd love to dualwield fishing poles |
| 11:35.59 | winkiller | I'd even respec to level fishing faster |
| 11:36.12 | winkiller | Fisherman's Grip |
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| 12:13.33 | Fisker- | ~wowalert |
| 12:13.34 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 12:15.14 | sb|work | Fisker-: account hack?? |
| 12:15.41 | Fisker- | ? |
| 12:16.44 | chosi | sb|work: moron?? |
| 12:17.44 | Fisker- | ?? |
| 12:25.45 | sb|work | chosi: i have no idea what your problem is |
| 12:26.01 | sb|work | Fisker-: look at the eu message |
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| 12:32.20 | winkiller | "programs to take control of your account". HELP, I've been botted :P |
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| 13:11.45 | Kaelten | g'morning |
| 13:17.19 | nevcairiel | morning Kaelten |
| 13:17.32 | Kaelten | how goes nev? |
| 13:18.10 | nevcairiel | sleepy |
| 13:18.18 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 13:18.19 | Kaelten | me too |
| 13:18.22 | sb|work | sleepy at 15:15? :O |
| 13:18.28 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 13:18.31 | Kaelten | was actually working on onebag last night |
| 13:18.31 | sb|work | meh.. :p |
| 13:18.54 | nevcairiel | I have to enjoy the time of sleepyness until i have to go back to university next week |
| 13:19.18 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 13:19.20 | Kaelten | fun |
| 13:22.26 | nevcairiel | I should really just sleep for an hour |
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| 13:51.38 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Nevcairiel * r758 AceConfig-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0/AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua: |
| 13:51.41 | Repo | Use the scheduled release of the widgets children for the BlizzOptionsPanel, too. (Ticket #33) |
| 13:59.16 | Repo | 10priorityqueue: 03Pericles * r12 / (4 files in 2 directories): PriorityQueue:- |
| 13:59.19 | Repo | Added marksman hunter |
| 13:59.48 | Repo | 10priorityqueue: 03Pericles 04v0.21-beta * r13 : PriorityQueue:- |
| 13:59.51 | Repo | Release v0.21-beta to Curse.com |
| 14:04.18 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r184 Categories/Characteristics.lua: bugfix to [Name] |
| 14:04.31 | ckknight | Kuja^: k |
| 14:11.55 | BWMerlin | @describe priorityqueue |
| 14:11.56 | Repo | BWMerlin: http://www.wowace.com/projects/priorityqueue/. PriorityQueue. Priority Queue is a very simple idea. Based on your class you choose a list of abilities and place them in order (usually highest dps ability first). Priority Queue will then display the icon for that... |
| 14:25.13 | Repo | 10epgploot2: 03felsir * r2 / (78 files in 18 directories): first import |
| 14:25.17 | kagaro | nevcairiel: do ticket #35 |
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| 14:37.39 | Repo | 10charge-meter: 03Starinnia * r31 ChargeMeter.lua: -only watch the combat log during P2 Thaddius |
| 14:37.42 | Repo | -move slash command stuff |
| 14:37.45 | Repo | -only register P2 events if raid leader or assist |
| 14:38.24 | BWMerlin | kagaro: with ag_Pimpster is it possible to get targets talents to be dispalyed or what that need to be implemented in ag_UnitFrames? |
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| 14:38.55 | kagaro | BWMerlin: gota get that in ag_uf, pimpster just lets you set postions for all the elements |
| 14:39.04 | BWMerlin | cool |
| 14:39.11 | BWMerlin | i had a good player around with pimpster |
| 14:39.27 | BWMerlin | spent ages setting up my target frame |
| 14:39.36 | BWMerlin | now i got 2 see about party frame next |
| 14:40.05 | AckisWork | we built this city on ROCK AND ROLL |
| 14:40.14 | ckknight | I should probably put pants on and go to work, shouldn't I? |
| 14:40.21 | AckisWork | ckknight: no pants |
| 14:40.29 | ckknight | pants are pretty lame. |
| 14:40.38 | BWMerlin | agreed |
| 14:40.41 | kagaro | pants are weak |
| 14:40.48 | BWMerlin | my ideal job i wouldnt need pants |
| 14:40.50 | AckisWork | i has shin splints :( |
| 14:40.56 | ckknight | part of me wonders what would happen if I showed up in a kilt |
| 14:41.02 | ckknight | granted, I currently lack a kilt |
| 14:41.05 | BWMerlin | hmmm |
| 14:41.10 | ckknight | though I have worn one before |
| 14:41.15 | BWMerlin | it would give plenty of room |
| 14:42.08 | ckknight | well, if Ashton Kutcher did it and he's still cool, surely I can do it, too |
| 14:42.43 | BWMerlin | that is debatable |
| 14:43.20 | ckknight | it does draw questions of what the point is to this seemingly meaningless life |
| 14:43.29 | ckknight | to which can be best answered "getting laid" |
| 14:43.45 | ckknight | and he's got Demi Moore |
| 14:43.51 | ckknight | so he's not doing too bad for himself |
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| 14:44.59 | BWMerlin | some ppl have all the luck |
| 14:45.14 | AckisWork | ckknight: kagaro and I has an issue |
| 14:45.28 | ckknight | do I need to separate you two? |
| 14:45.31 | ckknight | you kids play nice. |
| 14:45.56 | AckisWork | datatools was used by ARL to help build the database, but it's non an in-game library so me adding it to the .pkgmeta screws up people who disembed, but he doesn't get associated points for it |
| 14:46.01 | AckisWork | we r playing nice! |
| 14:46.02 | AckisWork | :D |
| 14:46.17 | ckknight | so give him points, guy |
| 14:46.34 | AckisWork | that's only 1-time irrc |
| 14:46.41 | ckknight | add him to your point splits |
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| 14:46.50 | AckisWork | that's the option i'm looking at now |
| 14:46.56 | AckisWork | however wouldn't http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge-packager/tickets/8-make-ignore-take-precedence-over-externals/ fix the issue? |
| 14:47.05 | ckknight | maybe |
| 14:47.20 | AckisWork | haha i scared him away |
| 14:47.27 | kagaro | lols |
| 14:47.45 | nevcairiel | AckisWork: btw, just setup the relation on the website, no need to fuck with the .pkgmeta |
| 14:48.14 | AckisWork | wouldn't that still include it in the packages? |
| 14:48.19 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:48.25 | nevcairiel | Also, you can just send him some points for credit |
| 14:48.27 | nevcairiel | if you want |
| 14:48.33 | thul | which opinions must we tolerate, and which must we respect? and where do we draw the demoarcation? |
| 14:48.52 | nevcairiel | thul: my opinion is the only one that matters to you, obviously |
| 14:49.08 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: actually afaik it would still include it |
| 14:49.12 | thul | nevcairiel: obviously *lick* |
| 14:49.29 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: the packager includes stuff from .pkgmeta, it doesnt read the website stuff |
| 14:49.38 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 14:49.53 | nevcairiel | it however writes what it finds to the website |
| 14:50.09 | Arrowmaster | but the CC will still try to get it in disembed mode |
| 14:50.20 | Arrowmaster | but yeah no need to fuck with external then ignore |
| 14:50.44 | nevcairiel | Thats why he should just transfer some points over =P |
| 14:51.22 | AckisWork | yes but there should be a proper mechanicsm for this :P |
| 14:51.49 | nevcairiel | for something only your project needs? |
| 14:51.55 | nevcairiel | there are mainstream issues to resolve |
| 14:52.13 | AckisWork | who says it's just my project? |
| 14:52.28 | nevcairiel | <-- |
| 14:52.39 | AckisWork | you'd be wrong kind sir :P |
| 14:52.50 | AckisWork | at least two of my projects have the issue! :P |
| 14:52.59 | nevcairiel | Its sitll "your" |
| 14:53.13 | AckisWork | plus I think one other person used it as well |
| 14:54.00 | nevcairiel | You could just setup the author for 5% reward split |
| 14:54.05 | nevcairiel | and he gets his share too |
| 14:55.03 | AckisWork | that's what I'll end up doing if a solution isn't found, but that takes away from "my" points then instead of the library pool (caveat: I don't really give a shit, it's only points and kagaro more than deserves them) |
| 14:56.20 | AckisWork | ie: gathermate needs the relationship, collectinator, ARL, and I think lord farlander may have used it as well |
| 14:56.32 | kagaro | gathermate_data |
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| 14:56.46 | AckisWork | plus there's libraries such as lib-debug as well that may benefit from a relationship like that |
| 14:57.01 | nevcairiel | real libraries will be included as an embed |
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| 15:08.12 | AckisWork | ckknight: did you built this city on rock and roll? |
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| 15:09.31 | ckknight | pokes AckisWork in the ribs |
| 15:09.33 | ckknight | actually, I built this city on polka |
| 15:09.35 | ckknight | ...yea |
| 15:09.59 | AckisWork | lol |
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| 15:19.57 | winkiller | humppa! |
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| 15:27.13 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r488 / (2 files in 1 directory): Use the internal API instead of dealing with the structure. |
| 15:27.16 | Repo | Encapsulation FTW |
| 15:30.45 | Repo | 10priorityqueue: 03Pericles * r14 / (3 files in 2 directories): PriorityQueue:- |
| 15:30.48 | Repo | Drycoded attempt at Elemental Shaman setup |
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| 15:41.59 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ by ckknight |
| 15:44.24 | Repo | 10priorityqueue: 03Pericles * r15 / (3 files in 1 directory): PriorityQueue:- |
| 15:44.27 | Repo | Add watershield and totem of wrath checks for Elemental Shamans |
| 15:44.30 | Repo | Changed shield to be Lightning shield only |
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| 15:45.33 | Repo | 10priorityqueue: 03Pericles * r16 / (2 files in 1 directory): PriorityQueue:- |
| 15:45.36 | Repo | bump to v0.30 ready for testing and release. |
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| 15:54.41 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.curseforge.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ by Ackis |
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| 15:55.32 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1619 .pkgmeta: Update .pkgmeta |
| 15:57.57 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha1-78-g2308496 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Update .pkgmeta |
| 15:59.54 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r155 .pkgmeta: GatherMate_Data: .pkgmeta update |
| 15:59.57 | Repo | at some point i should checkin the new script ive been using from cron |
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| 16:40.18 | Fisker- | ~kiss nevcairiel |
| 16:40.19 | purl | ACTION forces nevcairiel to give qwesto a big kiss on the hand |
| 16:40.40 | nevcairiel | ~whalenuke Fisker- |
| 16:40.41 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker- with his mind powers. |
| 16:40.56 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:40.57 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give spode a big kiss on the forehead |
| 16:41.27 | Fisker- | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ <- nevcairiel |
| 16:42.01 | nevcairiel | mmmmmm salsa |
| 16:42.09 | nevcairiel | the extra-flaming-hot version too |
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| 16:47.46 | NeoTron | so people keep stealing my coffee creamer at work (liquid). I spiked it with green food coloring. |
| 16:47.51 | NeoTron | not that I think that'll deter anyone |
| 16:48.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 16:48.18 | nevcairiel | So you found people with green coffee now? |
| 16:48.22 | NeoTron | hehe |
| 16:48.27 | NeoTron | it's a possibility |
| 16:48.34 | NeoTron | although when all is said and done, it's not very green anymore |
| 16:50.43 | Fisker- | ~kiss Fisker- |
| 16:50.44 | purl | ACTION forces Fisker- to give Shirik|zZz a big kiss on the forehead |
| 16:50.47 | Fisker- | OM NOM NOM |
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| 16:54.07 | Arrowmaster | hmm damnit i was going to play Rez HD but realized my friend still has my other 360 controller.... game is so much better with more controllers |
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| 17:00.21 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r140 / (4 files in 2 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 17:00.25 | Repo | - support for some more events |
| 17:00.26 | Repo | - added a small options in the blizz panel and bit localization |
| 17:05.09 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r160 LibPeriodicTable-3.1.toc: -- Fix website link |
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| 17:30.00 | Repo | 10grid-status-res: 03Azethoth * r48 GridStatusRes.lua: --Check for nil targetName |
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| 17:38.58 | Repo | 10grid-status-res: 03Azethoth * r49 GridStatusRes.toc: --v3.00.03.02 release |
| 17:39.18 | Repo | 10grid-status-res: 03Azethoth 04v3.00.03.02 release * r50 : Tagging as v3.00.03.02 release |
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| 17:51.55 | Repo | 10arl: 03Jim-Bim * r1620 / (5 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 17:51.58 | Repo | AckisRecipeList: |
| 17:52.01 | Repo | - added new filter panel, which will be filled with more options later |
| 17:52.04 | Repo | - added option to toggle exclusions to the new filter panel |
| 17:52.08 | Repo | - fixed subtraction of exclusions in the progressbar (Ticket 465) |
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| 18:10.38 | Axodious | lol 13 horde 40 alliance avs on my bg |
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| 18:30.17 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03Azethoth * r108 GridStatusRaidDebuff.lua: --Fix logic error reported by warbaby |
| 18:47.13 | Axodious | @project castyeller |
| 18:47.14 | Repo | Axodious: No project found that matches 'castyeller' |
| 18:47.17 | Axodious | @project cast yeller |
| 18:47.18 | Repo | Axodious: No project found that matches 'cast' |
| 18:47.23 | Hjalte | Is there an addon that can remind me of buffing Thorns? I'd like it to be as small as possible :> |
| 18:48.20 | EthanCentaurai | @project cast-yeller |
| 18:48.21 | Repo | EthanCentaurai: http://www.wowace.com/projects/cast-yeller/. CastYeller. Game: WoW. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Updated: 97 days ago. Tickets: 2/7 |
| 18:48.34 | Axodious | ty |
| 18:48.40 | EthanCentaurai | :) |
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| 18:49.52 | Axodious | aanyone know if cast-yeller is still being maintained? last update was dec |
| 18:55.16 | ckknight | howdy, beautiful people |
| 18:55.46 | [Ammo] | github.com slow as hell / unreachable for anyone else? |
| 18:56.04 | Axodious | slow ammo |
| 18:56.08 | Axodious | not responding |
| 18:56.12 | [Ammo] | hmmok |
| 18:56.16 | [Ammo] | not just mee then :) |
| 18:56.27 | [Ammo] | traceroute ends in some void somewhere northamericish |
| 18:56.30 | renchap | http://twitter.com/github |
| 18:57.01 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 18:57.12 | [Ammo] | I never use the place, just needed something off it right now |
| 18:57.18 | [Ammo] | damn murphy and his laws |
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| 19:05.10 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r134 Database/Database.lua: [*]Fixed typo that broke priest dkp whisper. |
| 19:05.13 | Repo | [*]Fixed issue that prevented whisper filter, whisper query and whisper keyword changes from taking effect without a reloadui. |
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| 19:05.56 | nevcairiel | broke only priests? |
| 19:05.59 | nevcairiel | thats an awesome bug |
| 19:06.01 | NeoTron | yep |
| 19:06.11 | sb|work | hmm :o |
| 19:06.14 | NeoTron | I have a map with class = true for a quick lookup |
| 19:06.21 | NeoTron | the priest entry said priest = ture |
| 19:06.32 | Grum | hehe |
| 19:06.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 19:07.10 | NeoTron | which is why it's good to do a luac -l and check for GET/SETGLOBAL from time to time |
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| 19:23.56 | Koben | Anyone know anything about getting a cooldown addon to skip the 0 when counting down? |
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| 19:27.53 | Toadkiller | would that not depend on the addon you are using? |
| 19:28.51 | ppilatee | usually 0 is 0.59 to .01 seconds no? |
| 19:29.40 | quiescens | I would think a cooldown addon would make better sense rounding up rather than rounding to nearest |
| 19:30.09 | Toadkiller | imo its better to show 0.1 seconds |
| 19:31.10 | Toadkiller | But my lag is good enough to cast at +/- .3 seconds left |
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| 19:34.46 | Koben | Toadkiller: Well I'm using CooldownButtons, which unfortunately doesn't have any support anymore. A lot of addons nowadays count down like 3, 2, 1, done. But CooldownButtons does 3, 2, 1, 0, done (which as I understand works that way by default). |
| 19:38.30 | Torhal | Feh |
| 19:38.40 | Torhal | Koben: Try OmniCC. |
| 19:39.22 | Koben | blinks. "You know, for some reason I didn't think of that." |
| 19:39.28 | Koben | I don't know why. |
| 19:42.30 | Trell | is there any outfitter addon that can automatically change gear/weapons when you switch stances? |
| 19:43.09 | taleden | koben: you can probably just search the addon's code and change floor(...) to ceil(...) |
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| 19:57.22 | Repo | 10tourguide_lunarfestival: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v0.6.2-beta-4-gf7a2065 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 19:57.26 | Repo | f7a2065: Rearrange the guides to that Maraudon is the last thing you do before hearthing. It's a bugger to get out of! (ticket 5) |
| 19:57.29 | Repo | 9adddea: Fix missing flight master in Horde guide. (ticket 6) |
| 19:58.56 | EthanCentaurai | wonders if it's worth tagging a new version... |
| 19:59.00 | Repo | 10libstatlogic-1-1: 03Nevcairiel * r37 LibStatLogic-1.1.toc: LoD is good for you! |
| 19:59.32 | Fisker- | http://eu.blizzard.com/blizzcast/archive/episode8.xml <-i came |
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| 20:01.00 | Trell | D3 looks so frickin' hot |
| 20:01.11 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r489 mmochamp.lua: Fix mmo-champion pattern |
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| 20:10.31 | nevcairiel | I wonder if they will allow respecing in D3 |
| 20:10.39 | Axodious | i hope not |
| 20:10.44 | NeoTron | must say that Jerry sure works a lot on talented. Nicest addon ever, even aftet dual spec |
| 20:10.51 | Axodious | i like the idea of having multiple of the same class |
| 20:11.05 | nevcairiel | depends how long it takes to level |
| 20:11.27 | nevcairiel | Sometimes you just want to test something new |
| 20:11.42 | nevcairiel | and don't level to X to get all the spells |
| 20:11.52 | nevcairiel | just to realize it sucks |
| 20:14.09 | NeoTron | I suspect it would allow respecs |
| 20:14.35 | Axodious | i dunno it was a pretty big thing in d2 |
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| 20:15.17 | Axodious | if in like a month after release you can powerlevel to 60 in a day |
| 20:15.21 | Axodious | then it should stay the same imo |
| 20:16.04 | nevcairiel | Maybe i was just slow in D2, but it always took me ages to get to 50 and above |
| 20:16.37 | nevcairiel | I dunno how long i played on my 85 or what it was in the end |
| 20:16.52 | Axodious | i personally liked d2 regardless of how slow it was |
| 20:16.54 | nevcairiel | especially since "leveling" ended up doing the same thing for hours |
| 20:17.02 | Axodious | it's a change from wow |
| 20:17.14 | Axodious | if d3 was just d2 but upgraded i'd be happy |
| 20:17.24 | Axodious | same way d1 -> d2 |
| 20:17.30 | NeoTron | I never played D2.. just D1 |
| 20:17.48 | Axodious | d2 is basicly d1 without bobafett and some more abilities |
| 20:18.00 | Axodious | (lol bobafett) |
| 20:18.47 | nevcairiel | Sometimes the lack of any save ability in D1 annoyed me, like you had to have enough time to finish the whole thing, or you basically start over |
| 20:18.57 | nevcairiel | waypoints in D2 were nice |
| 20:19.22 | NeoTron | I'm hoping for some nice D3 action within my guild |
| 20:19.23 | NeoTron | MP stuff |
| 20:19.32 | NeoTron | for nights off raiding in wow :P |
| 20:19.49 | nevcairiel | D3 release will for sure make me take some nights off :P |
| 20:20.14 | NeoTron | I just am not that into single player games so I hope there will be some MP interest |
| 20:20.21 | NeoTron | not like you need 25 ppl to run it though |
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| 20:21.04 | nevcairiel | i never really had problems finding some game to play D2 in with others, or just creatign one with what you want to do, and people would join |
| 20:24.35 | sb|work | wtf is it possible to kill s3d without healpally or restodruid? |
| 20:24.42 | sb|work | (10s) |
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| 20:25.03 | selckin | yes |
| 20:25.11 | sb|work | it is? :P |
| 20:25.21 | sb|work | with 2 healers? |
| 20:25.21 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 20:25.29 | selckin | done it with shaman priest |
| 20:25.41 | sb|work | mhh... |
| 20:27.11 | NivFreak | sb|work: we do it with 3 healers, no resto druid ;) |
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| 20:27.21 | sb|work | thats how we fail at the moemnt |
| 20:27.26 | sb|work | priest priest shaman |
| 20:27.36 | sb|work | need too much luck :( |
| 20:27.37 | NivFreak | we do disc priest/holy pally/resto shaman |
| 20:27.50 | NivFreak | and 3 tanks |
| 20:27.51 | sb|work | yah its okay with pally |
| 20:27.54 | sb|work | oh? |
| 20:27.58 | sb|work | okay, 2 tanks here :p |
| 20:27.59 | NivFreak | 3/3/4 |
| 20:28.05 | selckin | we use 3 tanks |
| 20:28.31 | sb|work | we did it with shaman/priest/pally + 2 tanks |
| 20:28.34 | selckin | most of the time 3 healrs too |
| 20:28.35 | NivFreak | I'm not really sure how two tanks works without a prot pally, I've heard a couple people claim they do it without one |
| 20:28.39 | selckin | but done it with 2 aswel |
| 20:28.42 | sb|work | we have prot pally |
| 20:28.44 | sb|work | and feral |
| 20:28.49 | sb|work | but no heal pally |
| 20:28.55 | NivFreak | yea, we have no prot pally |
| 20:29.01 | NivFreak | and no interest in one |
| 20:29.02 | sb|work | heal pally is overpowered in that fight :/ |
| 20:30.11 | Grum | shamans are rather underpowered for that fight |
| 20:30.53 | Grum | sb|work: how do you do 10+3 with only 2tanks? :D |
| 20:31.36 | sb|work | worked fine :o |
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| 20:31.49 | sb|work | but doesnt work with pally healer :( |
| 20:31.51 | sb|work | err without |
| 20:31.53 | NivFreak | druid on sarth, prot pally on the rest right? |
| 20:31.57 | sb|work | yes |
| 20:31.59 | NeoTron | our kills used pally/holy priest/druid and pally/pally/shaman healers |
| 20:32.07 | Grum | and how does the protpally pick up the flame adds? |
| 20:32.11 | sb|work | spot |
| 20:32.14 | sb|work | taunt |
| 20:32.14 | sb|work | :o |
| 20:32.16 | NivFreak | Grum: 2 taunts, one multitarget |
| 20:32.20 | sb|work | yep |
| 20:32.23 | NivFreak | ranged judgements |
| 20:32.27 | sb|work | and tricks + FoK for whelps |
| 20:32.28 | NivFreak | passive aoe |
| 20:32.47 | sb|work | but needs luck... |
| 20:33.00 | NivFreak | that's true of most s3d-10 :P |
| 20:33.06 | Grum | not really |
| 20:33.17 | NeoTron | a lot of it is luck based |
| 20:33.23 | Grum | like what? |
| 20:33.32 | NivFreak | chain cyclones |
| 20:33.33 | NeoTron | timing alone, on whelps and on beaths if nothing else, is significany |
| 20:33.35 | NivFreak | bad voids on the tank healers |
| 20:33.53 | NivFreak | there's a lot of randomness that can spike the difficulty level |
| 20:33.59 | Grum | bad voids yeah |
| 20:34.09 | NivFreak | 2xcyclones in < 1 second == death |
| 20:34.26 | Grum | l2dodge! .. as they would say in my guild >< |
| 20:34.35 | Grum | if only it was that easy :D |
| 20:34.41 | NivFreak | dodging lowers dps |
| 20:34.57 | Grum | yes, and dead people is more dps than dodging people ;) |
| 20:35.30 | NivFreak | it's often a wipe either way :) |
| 20:35.41 | NivFreak | low dps tends to be a wipe as well |
| 20:36.02 | Grum | yes but that is only because of double-breaths+double melee on the drake-tank |
| 20:36.17 | Grum | and prolonged 2+3 up gives lots of chances to get instagibbed by a breath |
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| 20:36.24 | NivFreak | our holy pally usually runs near oom by the time the 2nd drake is down |
| 20:36.28 | Grum | let alone the amount of groupdmg there is done |
| 20:36.36 | NivFreak | TT is brutal |
| 20:36.47 | NivFreak | we just can't get through it without JoL |
| 20:36.54 | NivFreak | we tried many times :) |
| 20:38.22 | vhaarr | why doesn't a 1-40 iteration of UnitAura on the target catch any debuffs? |
| 20:38.22 | vhaarr | like UnitAura("target", i) |
| 20:38.22 | vhaarr | I thought that was supposed to get it all |
| 20:38.38 | Grum | NivFreak: we have 3t+2h+5d and 1d heals during 2+3 on the 'hard moments' (ea dpsgroup drops <30%) |
| 20:39.31 | NivFreak | sure |
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| 20:39.59 | NivFreak | I'm pretty sure we could still tighten things up, our disc priest stays on the sarth tank, and I think he could position for some additional coverage |
| 20:40.06 | NivFreak | but honestly, I hate that fight |
| 20:40.10 | NivFreak | and I'd rather not do it anymore |
| 20:40.15 | Grum | the 2 healers should only worry about themselves and the 3tanks |
| 20:40.55 | NivFreak | so it's a bit misleading, you really use 2.5 healers :) |
| 20:41.02 | NivFreak | and do you use a ret pally? |
| 20:41.37 | Grum | no |
| 20:41.44 | Grum | we have had one but not by default |
| 20:42.00 | Grum | we make sure we have replenishment |
| 20:42.06 | Grum | and BoK |
| 20:42.14 | NivFreak | JoL is just huge, it really smooths out the TT dmg |
| 20:42.27 | Grum | you can easily manage without it |
| 20:42.34 | NivFreak | well sure, you have a .5 healer ;) |
| 20:42.43 | Grum | ofc? why make it hard on yourself :) |
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| 20:43.09 | Grum | we found that unless we do that the drake-healer would be OOM when drake2 died |
| 20:43.21 | Grum | depending on the group i or a elem shammy help healing |
| 20:43.26 | Grum | elem shammies are a bit more useful for it |
| 20:43.42 | Grum | but i can manage fine as spriest (some POH+POM and PW:S) |
| 20:43.57 | NivFreak | we don't have a solid/geared ele shaman |
| 20:44.12 | NivFreak | but we do have an enh shammy that toss some heals at that point if needed |
| 20:44.28 | Grum | same difference with the downside that he has like 6k mana :) |
| 20:44.33 | NivFreak | the hump for our strat was always just avoiding a 2nd set of whelps |
| 20:44.47 | Grum | how can you not avoid those? |
| 20:44.54 | NivFreak | we can handle a 2nd set, but it just puts you quite a bit behind on shadron+vesperon |
| 20:45.06 | NivFreak | Grum: 4 melee dps + bad luck |
| 20:45.07 | Grum | you have to have the first drake on ~30% before the second one activates |
| 20:45.17 | Grum | taking 4 melee is just asking for problems ;) |
| 20:45.19 | NivFreak | nah |
| 20:45.22 | NivFreak | it works great |
| 20:45.36 | NivFreak | good synergy helps |
| 20:45.38 | Grum | yes because melee has awesome aoe ;) |
| 20:45.39 | Grum | yes ofc |
| 20:45.45 | Grum | we usually have ok caster synergy |
| 20:45.46 | NivFreak | just teach your melee to dance zones :) |
| 20:45.52 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: hm, was the Packager broken earlier? I'm not getting the lastes MagicDKP build via CC :< |
| 20:45.58 | NivFreak | we just have stronger melee than ranged in general |
| 20:46.08 | Grum | Gnarfoz: github was so some libs were |
| 20:46.15 | NivFreak | we have a weak/undergeared shadow priest and ele shaman atm |
| 20:46.19 | Grum | NivFreak: its all equal with us |
| 20:46.24 | NivFreak | and just lost our awesome boomkin |
| 20:46.36 | Grum | but regularly we'd take a spriest+elem+afflic+boomkin |
| 20:46.38 | NivFreak | we didn't even have an ele shaman until recently |
| 20:46.39 | Gnarfoz | Grum: ah, so if he uses ... ldb for example, stuff would have not worked? I see |
| 20:46.49 | Grum | and an arcane or frostfire mage |
| 20:46.57 | Grum | Gnarfoz: indeed |
| 20:47.03 | NivFreak | Grum: yea, we just didn't have a good ranged group to rely on |
| 20:47.03 | Grum | erm |
| 20:47.13 | Grum | i fail typing btw Gnarfoz; github was *down* ;D |
| 20:47.30 | Gnarfoz | Grum: wowace however has the file, so I'm not certain about how that disparity would come up (CC not offering it, wowace offering it though) |
| 20:47.41 | NivFreak | new PTR build eh |
| 20:47.44 | NivFreak | I guess they are getting close |
| 20:47.48 | Gnarfoz | NivFreak: again? oO |
| 20:47.54 | Grum | NivFreak: but other than manaregen and the regular 3t+2h+5d we never make specific setups |
| 20:48.07 | NivFreak | Grum: 10:45am today, I'm just catching up |
| 20:48.07 | Gnarfoz | EU PTR updating is always lagging behind, meh |
| 20:48.19 | vhaarr | anyone know what a "SQA" is? |
| 20:48.40 | Grum | i think i've killed him with +3 about 7 times now, and we've had DK/Druid as sart tank, DK/Druid/Warrior as Drake/adds tanks |
| 20:49.15 | Grum | priest+sham;priest+druid;druid+pala;priest+pala;pala+shaman and once priest+priest as healers |
| 20:49.32 | Grum | oh and shammy+pally once as well :) |
| 20:49.41 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: software quality assurance? |
| 20:49.45 | Grum | but normally we dont get >2 melee dps |
| 20:49.51 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: how could that be quantified, however... |
| 20:50.00 | Grum | enh+rogue i tihnk is the most we ever took |
| 20:51.57 | NivFreak | Grum: you've used a warrior as a drake+add tank? |
| 20:52.12 | Grum | yeah |
| 20:52.17 | Grum | but never more than one (we just have one in the guild) |
| 20:52.35 | NivFreak | how does he manage to pick up adds without letting the drakes breath on the raid? |
| 20:52.43 | NivFreak | spam taunts? |
| 20:52.55 | Grum | nono, 'for the jobs' not for both at the same time |
| 20:52.59 | Grum | we always take 3 tanks |
| 20:53.00 | NivFreak | I haven't tried it, but it seems extremely chatoic |
| 20:53.01 | NivFreak | oh |
| 20:53.02 | Grum | no exceptions |
| 20:53.04 | NivFreak | ok |
| 20:53.05 | NivFreak | nm |
| 20:53.11 | NivFreak | so your previous answer should have been no :) |
| 20:53.32 | Grum | well ... we had a warrior tank drakes .. and once tank adds, just not at the same time |
| 20:53.40 | Grum | but never had a warrior do sart |
| 20:53.43 | NivFreak | either job isn't terrible, but adding the two together as a warrior seems extremely challenging |
| 20:53.46 | Grum | they just dont have the hp/cooldowns |
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| 20:53.57 | NivFreak | yea, we're fairly boned for sarth |
| 20:54.06 | NivFreak | I've tanked him from shadron down+ before ;) |
| 20:54.10 | NivFreak | in fact, several times |
| 20:54.20 | Grum | druid has to go in with superbly +HP geared |
| 20:54.25 | NivFreak | ours is 54k |
| 20:54.27 | NivFreak | before debuff |
| 20:54.33 | NivFreak | works fine |
| 20:54.42 | NivFreak | we've gone back and forth with FR gear |
| 20:54.45 | Grum | and the DK can get some wonky self-heal thing from blood and they just have oodles of -% dmg |
| 20:54.59 | NivFreak | we've seen some resist amounts below the "guarenteed" level |
| 20:55.06 | NivFreak | which I still haven't figured out |
| 20:55.16 | Arrowmaster | there is no 'guarenteed' level |
| 20:55.22 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: EJ says there is now |
| 20:55.29 | Grum | maybe 3.1? |
| 20:55.31 | NivFreak | in 3.0 |
| 20:55.40 | Grum | what kind of 'level' are you talking about btw? |
| 20:55.43 | NivFreak | there's an average, and a minimum |
| 20:55.50 | Arrowmaster | in 2.4 you could have max resist and still take full damage |
| 20:55.54 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: yes |
| 20:55.56 | NivFreak | Arrowmaster: changed in 3.0 |
| 20:55.57 | Grum | well i know there is: 25/50/75% resists |
| 20:56.02 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 20:56.03 | NivFreak | nope |
| 20:56.06 | NivFreak | that all changed |
| 20:56.11 | NivFreak | brb |
| 20:56.14 | NivFreak | I'll find the link |
| 20:56.30 | TradeMark | I think it's down to 10% increments now? |
| 20:56.38 | TradeMark | speaking of 3d |
| 20:56.47 | TradeMark | my guild is starting attempts this week on 3d-25 |
| 20:56.50 | TradeMark | fun fun |
| 20:57.05 | Industrial | woopwoop maly 6min done |
| 20:57.11 | Grum | 10 or 25m? |
| 20:57.16 | Grum | 25>10 :) |
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| 20:57.38 | durcyn | 310 mounts are so last december. |
| 20:57.43 | Grum | imho melee are severely gimped in the current bossfights |
| 20:57.45 | Industrial | 25 |
| 20:57.49 | Industrial | yes they are |
| 20:57.51 | TradeMark | our druid tank is averagely geared (in the order of 45k buffed in bear) so could be interesting |
| 20:58.08 | TradeMark | but we just had a DK app so could pick them up ;) |
| 20:58.21 | TradeMark | sif Grum |
| 20:58.28 | TradeMark | we have a rogue and cat top currently |
| 20:58.30 | Grum | TradeMark: you deck out your druid in frost-res gear |
| 20:58.41 | TradeMark | he's in FR gear with stam enchants/gems |
| 20:58.43 | Grum | TradeMark: then your locks+mages suck |
| 20:58.52 | Grum | FR .. frost rest? fireres? ;) |
| 20:58.56 | TradeMark | but he doesn't raid with us much so is a bit behind on gear |
| 20:58.58 | TradeMark | frost |
| 20:59.56 | TradeMark | http://wowwebstats.com/43cqz5khskcau?s=435028-463795 |
| 21:00.06 | TradeMark | our locks are up there |
| 21:00.33 | TradeMark | but if you go to overall damage, the rogue pulls away :P |
| 21:00.42 | Grum | who cares for overall? |
| 21:00.45 | Grum | that has trash involved |
| 21:00.53 | TradeMark | all bosses then |
| 21:01.35 | Grum | your mages suck ass :) |
| 21:01.54 | TradeMark | heh yeah they're still gearing up a bit I think |
| 21:02.00 | Grum | frostfire and going 3220 dps that means lacking oodles of gear |
| 21:04.32 | Grum | http://wowwebstats.com/ceq4tumkctu1m?s=282338-308945 <-- mages+locks should be top :) |
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| 21:05.07 | TradeMark | o.O |
| 21:05.12 | TradeMark | tell your mages to go fire |
| 21:05.17 | Grum | fire? |
| 21:05.22 | Grum | arcane or frostfire |
| 21:05.28 | TradeMark | no, fire |
| 21:05.34 | Grum | why? to get -1500 dps? :D |
| 21:05.41 | TradeMark | fireball spec will get them about 5% extra DPS over frostfire |
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| 21:05.57 | TradeMark | arcane will get them about 10%, but they have to learn to play it right |
| 21:05.58 | Grum | i think both of them are arcane now |
| 21:06.07 | TradeMark | ok |
| 21:06.17 | Grum | its just not fun to see them do ~8k dps on patchwerk |
| 21:06.24 | TradeMark | :P |
| 21:06.28 | Grum | they drop to ~5.5-6.5k at the end .. but still |
| 21:06.36 | Grum | insane burstspec |
| 21:06.57 | TradeMark | arcane has amazing DPM/DPS control |
| 21:07.06 | TradeMark | long as you learn to watch your mana bar |
| 21:07.06 | Grum | and insane mana usage |
| 21:07.19 | TradeMark | no you can throttle mana usage by changing rotation |
| 21:07.23 | Grum | when heroism pops i see mages empty their full manabar in less than 20 seconds |
| 21:07.26 | TradeMark | that's the point :P |
| 21:07.44 | Grum | so they get innervates ;) |
| 21:07.46 | Grum | cheaters |
| 21:07.56 | TradeMark | http://elitistjerks.com/f75/t42876-arcane_thread/ |
| 21:08.07 | TradeMark | Rotations, about 4 sections down |
| 21:08.10 | Grum | spriests used to be 'cool' .. and then people got gear ... |
| 21:08.16 | Grum | and spriests scale like shit ;( |
| 21:09.26 | TradeMark | actually I think arc mages are probably pretty unique in the ability to adjust their damage output to cope with changing regen conditions |
| 21:09.40 | TradeMark | my main was a mage till about 2 months ago |
| 21:09.47 | Grum | i cant really go oom as spriest |
| 21:09.53 | TradeMark | I had a play with Arcane when it first popped up |
| 21:09.58 | Grum | locks can just lifetap |
| 21:10.05 | Grum | elem shammies .. dunno .. i never see them run out of mana either |
| 21:10.25 | TradeMark | but it's a difficult spec to get right... easy to get tunnel visioned, kinda like an aff lock in that regard |
| 21:11.10 | Peoii | wait, arcane mages get innervates? |
| 21:11.13 | Peoii | w t b... |
| 21:11.43 | Grum | yes, 2/3 per fight |
| 21:12.14 | TradeMark | if they l2p they shouldn't need it |
| 21:12.24 | Grum | no, every innervate is ~500 dps :) |
| 21:12.26 | TradeMark | but it probably gives them the greatest DPS advantage relative to other classes |
| 21:12.27 | NeoTron | Grum: but ofc lifetap is bad |
| 21:12.32 | TradeMark | assuming healers don't need it |
| 21:12.42 | durcyn | life tap glyph is a step in the right direction |
| 21:12.44 | Grum | mages are going to drop in ulduar :) |
| 21:12.56 | Grum | because they are not going to get innervates ;) |
| 21:13.01 | Grum | so *bye* 1k dps :p |
| 21:13.02 | NeoTron | durcyn: agreed. I dunno if it will make it good to lifetap early and often but it's something |
| 21:13.15 | Grum | what does the glyph do? |
| 21:13.28 | durcyn | grants additional spellpower for 20 seconds after tap |
| 21:13.38 | NeoTron | scaled by spirit right? |
| 21:13.43 | durcyn | in full 213-226 gear it gives me about ~125 passive |
| 21:13.45 | durcyn | yeah, spirit |
| 21:13.51 | Grum | locks benefit WAY to much from spirit tbh |
| 21:13.56 | Grum | they benefit the most of any dps-class |
| 21:14.17 | Peoii | grum: You don't ever need innervate as a mage. You just need to learn to play it properly and manage your own mana. I've been doing the mage thing since Alpha, and it's just a matter of focus. |
| 21:14.33 | durcyn | itf it wasn't spirit it'd have to be somethign else, grum, stop being jealous because we get different toys |
| 21:14.35 | Grum | Peoii: its not about focus, its about doing more dps |
| 21:14.36 | durcyn | effing mages. |
| 21:14.49 | Peoii | Grum: Focus == More dps if you're playing it right. |
| 21:15.07 | Stanzilla | Focus + Innervate = even more dps :P |
| 21:15.18 | Grum | durcyn: that means that you can have +50% spirit as spellpower for a whole fight (if you tap 1x per 20s) |
| 21:15.23 | Xinhuan | you're not understanding Peoii |
| 21:15.23 | sb|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.24 | sb|work | down |
| 21:15.25 | sb|work | finally |
| 21:15.27 | sb|work | sucker |
| 21:15.40 | Xinhuan | for a 2 minute fight like patchwerk, there's no one worthgiving innervate to other than mages ;p |
| 21:15.52 | Grum | lol no fight takes more than 5 minutes in naxx |
| 21:15.54 | Xinhuan | mages can convert that extra mana to dps better than any other class can |
| 21:16.09 | durcyn | Grum: reminds me of a song i heard. "I'm a little gnome mage short and stout, here are my patch notes wanna test 'em out, then when I get to see 'em, hear me shout, 'WHY AM I NOT A WARLOCK', *pout* *pout* *pout*" |
| 21:16.14 | Peoii | Oh no, I understand. I'm just saying... it's not necessary per say, it's a luxury ;) |
| 21:16.16 | Xinhuan | and your healers still have > half mana by the end of it |
| 21:16.28 | Grum | oh gothik does :p |
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| 21:16.41 | Xinhuan | there's a 2-healer naxx clear somewhere |
| 21:16.46 | Xinhuan | 25 man |
| 21:16.51 | syeren | Is there anyway to encode h264 in Vegas? |
| 21:17.16 | Peoii | People seem to think "omg mages aren't gonna get insert_buff_x_here, they're dps is gonna be garbage" which is entirely untrue. More my point I guess. |
| 21:17.25 | Grum | durcyn: but really, +50% spirit, locks end up with ~600-700 spirit when raidbuffed orso? |
| 21:17.27 | durcyn | syeren: it might be called mpeg4 |
| 21:17.40 | syeren | Yeah it is, I just expected it to be MKV :p |
| 21:17.41 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r93 / (4 files in 1 directory): fix bug reported by colon319 |
| 21:17.45 | durcyn | syeren: or even quicktime, depending on the version |
| 21:17.45 | Repo | enhance a little bit achievementTracker but not tested PTR down ... |
| 21:17.49 | durcyn | mkv's a container. |
| 21:18.10 | Grum | ah well, lets just put it at locks scaling well ;) |
| 21:18.14 | durcyn | Grum: so? we scale for fuck-all with crit |
| 21:18.24 | durcyn | different classes have different mechanics |
| 21:18.30 | syeren | I'm guessing that means it is a post encode process / file :p |
| 21:18.32 | syeren | ? |
| 21:18.35 | Grum | ah well, i'd be happy if spriests scaled at all compared to other classes :) |
| 21:18.51 | Grum | but its the same as in tbc |
| 21:19.07 | Grum | except that we started of doing decent dps and end up doing semi-decent instead of crap ;) |
| 21:19.17 | durcyn | syeren: no, codecs are streams in containers, you can put an mpeg4/h264 stream in a matroska container if your app supports it |
| 21:19.28 | sb|work | 24 tries s3d |
| 21:19.30 | sb|work | *hate* |
| 21:19.35 | Grum | 10m? :p |
| 21:19.39 | sb|work | yes |
| 21:19.45 | sb|work | http://wowwebstats.com/a3i61v1sebi2u?s=209999-237497 |
| 21:19.46 | sb|work | *sigh8 |
| 21:19.46 | Grum | well gz, was it the first time you killed it? |
| 21:19.48 | sb|work | nah |
| 21:19.49 | sb|work | 3rd |
| 21:20.05 | sb|work | but 1+2 was priest/shaman/healpally |
| 21:20.07 | sb|work | so easy :o |
| 21:20.14 | Grum | you sort of do this to yourself |
| 21:20.24 | sb|work | hmm? :P |
| 21:20.28 | Repo | 10recount: 03Elsia * r1039 GUI_Detail.lua: |
| 21:20.31 | Repo | - Fixed that Detail views which didn't contain a count field would not show any data (affected DamageTaken and HealingTaken for example). |
| 21:20.36 | Grum | 2 tanks 3 healers is bleehhhhh |
| 21:20.48 | sb|work | i know :p |
| 21:21.21 | Grum | well gz still ;) |
| 21:21.26 | Grum | did you get the drake? :D |
| 21:21.57 | durcyn | syeren: anyway, last time i looked at vegas it only supported shitty WMV containers |
| 21:22.24 | syeren | Hmm |
| 21:22.56 | syeren | So I need to edit the movie in Vegas, make the finished project an uncompressed AVI, then use x264 to encode it to MP4 / MKV? |
| 21:23.30 | durcyn | why uncompressed? if you have a working mpeg4/h264 codec just use that in the AVI container |
| 21:23.35 | durcyn | codec != container |
| 21:24.38 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 21:25.11 | durcyn | why do you want matroska anyway? it's kind of superfluous unless you want multiple audio streams and subtitles |
| 21:25.32 | syeren | My Vegas can do MainConcept AVC/AAC (.mp4), so I guess I should use that. |
| 21:26.04 | Axodious | for warcraft movies wmv containers are fine |
| 21:26.12 | Arrowmaster | wmv is never fine |
| 21:26.25 | Axodious | yeah it is >_> |
| 21:26.33 | Arrowmaster | h264 doesnt go into avi, its doable but DONT |
| 21:26.35 | durcyn | for once i agree wholeheartedly with Arrowmaster, wmv/asf is evil proprietary garbage |
| 21:26.53 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r1929 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 21:27.11 | Axodious | wmv has ok quality -> size ratio, and plays by default on most computers |
| 21:27.15 | durcyn | and i'm pretty sure AVC is microsoft's AVC-1, not H264, which is based on quicktime |
| 21:27.23 | sb|work | hm vegas raw export |
| 21:27.30 | sb|work | then use megui to create h264 mkv |
| 21:27.34 | Arrowmaster | AVC is AVC |
| 21:27.35 | sb|work | works fine :) |
| 21:27.52 | syeren | sb|work, thanks. |
| 21:28.05 | Axodious | i'd rather have more viewers over a slight quality difference tbh |
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| 21:28.23 | Arrowmaster | xvid is more supported than wmv |
| 21:28.33 | durcyn | Axodious: if i see a video is wmv, i skip it |
| 21:28.39 | durcyn | ymmv |
| 21:28.58 | Axodious | if you are some random person who plays warcraft and knows fuck all about your computer, chances are you only have default windows support |
| 21:29.08 | Axodious | and thats 70% of the wow population |
| 21:29.19 | Arrowmaster | just about everybody can play divx or xvid |
| 21:29.26 | NeoTron | ckknight: hmm http://www.wowace.com/projects/magic-dkp/files/257-r134/ hasn't syndicated to curse.com yet. any idea why? |
| 21:29.39 | TradeMark | they both need third-party codecs which aren't installed with windows by default |
| 21:29.48 | Axodious | ^ |
| 21:29.49 | TradeMark | but I agree with the sentiment that WMV is balls |
| 21:30.04 | Arrowmaster | afaik wmp will get the codecs for divx/xvid if needed |
| 21:30.16 | TradeMark | it'll have it by default in Win7 I believe |
| 21:30.26 | Axodious | ^^ lol |
| 21:30.46 | TradeMark | but in my experience it plays audio with no video if you try to play xvid on a fresh XP/Vista install |
| 21:30.59 | ckknight | NeoTron: looking into it |
| 21:31.06 | Arrowmaster | but still when i see a wmv of something warcraft, i instantly think its some noob using windows movie maker |
| 21:31.13 | Axodious | don't get me wrong, i don't like wmv myself, im just looking at it from an average end users point |
| 21:31.24 | durcyn | i've never seen wmp auto-retrieve divx/xvid codecs |
| 21:31.31 | durcyn | anyway use vlc or mpc already |
| 21:31.31 | Axodious | someo f the stuff from like nihilum etc was done in wmv |
| 21:31.38 | Arrowmaster | i know wmp tries to auto retrieve somthing |
| 21:31.44 | durcyn | Axodious: by a jackass with windows media maker, yeah. |
| 21:31.54 | durcyn | movie whatever |
| 21:32.01 | Arrowmaster | and still, wmv only plays back well in WMP |
| 21:32.05 | Axodious | he got the movie he wanted done, no? |
| 21:32.08 | durcyn | anyway proprietary microsoft formats can suck various parts of my anatomy |
| 21:32.14 | Axodious | thousands of people watched it too |
| 21:32.24 | Arrowmaster | people that know anything about video playback wont touch WMP |
| 21:32.27 | durcyn | thousands of people have AIDS too |
| 21:32.29 | durcyn | what's your point |
| 21:32.53 | durcyn | it's technologically inferior |
| 21:33.07 | Axodious | and it's included default in the mots widely used operating system |
| 21:33.27 | Arrowmaster | wmv bluescreens my computer if i turn on gfx card acceleration in my drivers |
| 21:33.48 | Axodious | i'd rather have 2 people who don't know how to install divx watch a warcraft movie than 1 person who does |
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| 21:34.07 | Arrowmaster | id rather tell people that dont know how to install divx to fuck off |
| 21:34.39 | syeren | Snap to that. |
| 21:34.41 | Axodious | go for it, i'd still have more viewers watching whatever achevement it is i recorded |
| 21:34.53 | Axodious | which is the main point of recording wow |
| 21:35.19 | Arrowmaster | no if you care about how many people are watching it the main point is inflating you epeen |
| 21:35.53 | Arrowmaster | its not hard to tell people if the video doesnt work install http://www.cccp-project.net/ |
| 21:36.22 | Axodious | it's not hard to use an inferior codec that average users don't really see a difference in |
| 21:36.37 | Arrowmaster | drasticly inferior |
| 21:36.45 | Arrowmaster | so inferior people wont see any detail |
| 21:37.11 | Axodious | the few videos i've done quality is fine in |
| 21:37.16 | durcyn | it's a bit of a moot argument anyway, since ideally the video would be delivered in h264 streams with a flash front end |
| 21:37.34 | durcyn | and Axodious, .wmv is a colossal middle finger to mac users too |
| 21:37.45 | Arrowmaster | plus a good amount of wow players use macs |
| 21:37.46 | Axodious | mac users know what they are doing, windows don't |
| 21:37.49 | Axodious | ^- compliment |
| 21:38.01 | durcyn | that's a fallaciuos statement, but whatever |
| 21:38.03 | Arrowmaster | good luck trying to get decent wmv playback on a mac since its not WMP |
| 21:38.20 | durcyn | flip4mac is terrible |
| 21:39.30 | Axodious | anyway to split off the topic, i </3 sony for putting the 1080 limit on vegas |
| 21:39.31 | Axodious | -_- |
| 21:39.57 | Codayus | If anything, I think Mac users know *less* about what they're doing on average... |
| 21:40.12 | Codayus | But I might be biased because I have to support some Mac users. :-) |
| 21:41.07 | Arrowmaster | we had to specificly add a check for .DS_Store and __MACOSX on curseforge zip uploads |
| 21:42.02 | Codayus | Heh |
| 21:42.09 | Arrowmaster | but i blame that more on OSX than the users |
| 21:42.15 | Codayus | True. |
| 21:42.49 | Codayus | You have to be pretty damn paranoid to think "hey, I just made a zip. I wonder if my OS has decided to place hidden files in it to annoy everyone else?" |
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| 21:59.08 | Repo | 10yurr-combat-log: 03copystring * r141 / (4 files in 2 directories): YurrCombatLog: |
| 21:59.11 | Repo | - big of bug fixing, add missing localization file |
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| 22:15.32 | NeoTron | ckknight: dunno if you did anything, but it's out now |
| 22:15.39 | ckknight | yea, I did stuff |
| 22:15.43 | ckknight | :) |
| 22:16.00 | NeoTron | ok. :) |
| 22:16.30 | NeoTron | speaking of stuff, what's the stance on executables (java .jar or .exe or what not) at wowace/curse? Is there some approval process "here's the source, is it ok?" |
| 22:16.44 | NeoTron | mainly I'm considering my options of a dkp data downloader for MagicDKP Database |
| 22:17.07 | NeoTron | alternatively does anyone know of an easily used system that doesn't reply on executables per se |
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| 22:18.35 | NivFreak | so we played some arena tourney games for fun last night |
| 22:18.46 | NivFreak | 30 games, 28 of which had a holy paladin healer |
| 22:20.06 | Xinhuan | because its not worth the money otherwise |
| 22:20.53 | Xinhuan | NeoTron: ask Kaelten |
| 22:21.08 | durcyn | NeoTron: you'd probably have better luck with jnlp |
| 22:21.41 | Repo | 10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r135 Locales/enUS.lua: [*]Added missing localization strings. |
| 22:21.44 | NivFreak | NeoTron: your goal is to have something modify the LUA directly/ |
| 22:21.51 | krka | NivFreak: I think you meant to say Lua there. ^_^ |
| 22:21.58 | NivFreak | picky picky ;) |
| 22:22.16 | NeoTron | NivFreak: I want to open a url and save the data into a file |
| 22:22.41 | NeoTron | I admit I have never written a GUI app for windows, or in java in general |
| 22:22.43 | NivFreak | why not just give us an export window, select-all -> copy -> paste into wow? |
| 22:22.49 | NeoTron | I was thinking webstart might work |
| 22:23.05 | NeoTron | NivFreak: that's one option but it's more luser friendly to run a download app |
| 22:23.24 | NivFreak | you're targeting lcd now? :) |
| 22:23.35 | NeoTron | yep |
| 22:23.38 | NivFreak | scary |
| 22:23.44 | NivFreak | I'll keep that in mind :) |
| 22:23.46 | NeoTron | another step in that is to document this stuff |
| 22:23.52 | NivFreak | agreed |
| 22:24.04 | NivFreak | we used magic looter last week |
| 22:24.12 | NivFreak | seems to work, haven't done that much with it yet |
| 22:24.16 | NeoTron | so is there some "make a really simple GUI app for jnlp" program? :P |
| 22:24.44 | NeoTron | it's funny, after spending all the time making the loot menu module I'll be using less and less of it due to MDKP Bidder |
| 22:25.00 | NivFreak | heh |
| 22:26.08 | durcyn | NeoTron: netbeans. good luck. |
| 22:28.01 | Codayus | Heh, write it in Shoes. |
| 22:28.11 | Codayus | http://shoooes.net/ |
| 22:28.26 | NeoTron | I have Idea IntelliJ license via work. bet that could do it |
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| 22:29.26 | NeoTron | indeed it seems like it can |
| 22:30.36 | NeoTron | so out of curiosity what is required to RUN a shoes app? :P |
| 22:32.56 | Codayus | NeoTron: I *think* you can make shoes spit out an executable for Windows (and other platforms) with the -p argument. |
| 22:33.01 | selckin | it look like its really bad |
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| 22:33.43 | Codayus | Honestly, I've never used the framework. Ran across it while researching something else. :-) |
| 22:34.11 | selckin | NeoTron: anyway you just want to make a swing app i guess |
| 22:35.17 | NeoTron | I think I can figure it out using intellij. it has a graphical UI designer |
| 22:35.45 | selckin | graphical ui designers are genarlly really bad |
| 22:36.51 | NeoTron | dude |
| 22:36.59 | NeoTron | it's a graphical wget |
| 22:37.04 | NeoTron | doesn't need to be pretty :P |
| 22:37.21 | selckin | then you're really better off doing it manual |
| 22:37.33 | NeoTron | easier to pain first, modify later |
| 22:37.38 | NeoTron | s/pain/paint/ |
| 22:37.53 | selckin | you way will end up being alot harder to modify later |
| 22:37.55 | NeoTron | if you haven't done AWT before. regardless, not a hard problem |
| 22:38.10 | selckin | never use awt, you want swing |
| 22:39.05 | TradeMark | eww java |
| 22:40.30 | TradeMark | suppose it's relatively easy to make cross-platform, but that's about all it is :P |
| 22:40.42 | NeoTron | Qt! :P |
| 22:41.25 | NeoTron | ah well it's a rather trivial problem to solve, just have to sit down and do it |
| 22:41.31 | selckin | TradeMark: spoken as a real clueless person |
| 22:42.09 | NeoTron | for this particular problem, java is perfectly fine |
| 22:42.29 | TradeMark | hah here we go |
| 22:43.35 | TradeMark | of course it's a extreme generalisation from a person who clearly has distaste for java |
| 22:43.43 | TradeMark | but how is it inaccurate? |
| 22:44.10 | TradeMark | it's easy to make cross-platform |
| 22:44.19 | Codayus | Clearly the answer is Python + WxPython + py2exe |
| 22:44.34 | TradeMark | but for any grown-up project that's aimed at a particular platform you're not going to be using Java |
| 22:44.40 | TradeMark | apart from the obvious exceptions |
| 22:44.46 | CrazyBenny | clearly, the answer is do it in something you know, so its over fast :P |
| 22:45.21 | NeoTron | TradeMark: right. clearly. |
| 22:46.53 | NeoTron | the 100k line project I work with (at work) says otherwise. |
| 22:46.56 | Codayus | TradeMark: That's not entirely true. Java has some excellent libraries, and it's not a bad choice for enterprise software. There's a reason why Java is uses so much for server side stuff where the cross-platform stuff doesn't even matter. |
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| 22:55.55 | TradeMark | maybe I've just had the misfortune of working on ugly projects |
| 22:56.23 | TradeMark | last Java project I worked with was ~750KB of code across ~120 source files |
| 22:57.12 | TradeMark | it ran like an absolute dog |
| 22:57.17 | SqueeG | gah |
| 22:59.16 | NeoTron | oh for f's sake |
| 22:59.17 | NeoTron | Blood Boil range has been reduced from 20 yards to 10 yards. |
| 22:59.30 | NeoTron | so from 30 to 10 yard. way to make all tanks identical |
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| 23:00.36 | NeoTron | Ghoul Frenzy now Grants your pet 25% haste for 30 sec (up from 15 sec) and heals it for 60% (up from 30%) of its health over the duration <- wonder if it'll be worth the rune then |
| 23:00.38 | TradeMark | admittedly the program was structured poorly (kind of MVC-esque, but with the View part running from XML rather than in-memory instances), and we were probably stretching the graphical capabilities of Java |
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| 23:01.07 | TradeMark | but I'm convinced just about anything would have handled it better than Java |
| 23:01.29 | CrazyBenny | I just cant believe they buffed AMS |
| 23:01.42 | NivFreak | they nerfed a bunch of other shit |
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| 23:02.16 | NeoTron | CrazyBenny: they didn't buff it |
| 23:02.21 | CrazyBenny | TradeMark: maybe it was just poor design :P anyway, I wouldnt use it for other than webapps anyway |
| 23:02.30 | NeoTron | CrazyBenny: it went from absorb ALL magic damage for the duration to having a limit on the amount |
| 23:02.35 | CrazyBenny | absorbs 2x more damage? |
| 23:02.47 | CrazyBenny | ooh, right |
| 23:02.47 | NeoTron | compare to live, not the previous version on the PTR |
| 23:02.53 | NivFreak | they buffed it from the last build, not from live |
| 23:03.07 | Kaelten | ~lart Nechckn |
| 23:03.07 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Nechckn a good jolt |
| 23:03.21 | CrazyBenny | damn, I'll stop here and will check whole changes....missed too much it seems |
| 23:03.24 | Nechckn | double touche |
| 23:04.42 | Koben | Hey, just throwing this out there, is there anything that would give me flat rectangle shaped buttons? |
| 23:05.04 | Koben | or tall, skinny rectacle shaped buttons for that matter, like piano keys? |
| 23:08.04 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16019994051&sid=1 |
| 23:08.07 | Xinhuan | haha |
| 23:17.51 | SqueeG | lmao |
| 23:17.59 | SqueeG | the blues have senses of humor! =o :p |
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| 23:40.52 | harl | Elemental Weapons doesn't make much sense for an elemental shaman, does it.. |
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| 23:43.27 | harl | it's not as if an ele shaman would go into close combat often enough to effectively make use of it |
| 23:45.14 | Megalon | 63 spellpower for 3 talentpoints |
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| 23:46.23 | Megalon | harl: the talent also increases the spellpower gained from flametongue enchant ;> |
| 23:46.45 | Megalon | but no clue if there are better talents to put your points into for elemental :o |
| 23:47.06 | harl | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=hEh0qcdItGxst0xxco |
| 23:47.38 | Megalon | cookie cutter? :x |
| 23:47.49 | harl | that's the elemental pve questing/soloing build as stated by wowwiki |
| 23:48.28 | Megalon | seems pretty solid |
| 23:48.29 | harl | and imo those 3 points at Elemental Weapons make much more sense when put into Reverberation |
| 23:49.08 | Megalon | why do you need reduced shock cd as ele shaman? |
| 23:49.27 | harl | why do you need increased melee damage as an ele shaman? |
| 23:49.36 | Megalon | did read the talent? |
| 23:49.43 | harl | yep, did you? |
| 23:49.46 | Megalon | you should |
| 23:49.59 | Megalon | increases the spell damage on your Flametongue Weapon by 30% |
| 23:50.24 | Megalon | 63.3 spellpower on lvl80 |
| 23:50.26 | harl | that's for melee damage |
| 23:51.14 | Megalon | flamentongue gives spellpower |
| 23:51.25 | Megalon | and EW increases that by 30% |
| 23:51.47 | harl | "Flametongue Weapon" |
| 23:51.56 | harl | read that |
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| 23:52.28 | SqueeG | heya ckk |
| 23:52.39 | Megalon | if you don't want to know it |
| 23:52.41 | harl | and no, Flametongue Totem and Flametongue Weapon are not the same |
| 23:52.42 | Megalon | don't ask |
| 23:52.51 | Megalon | it increases the spellpower granted by ft weapon |
| 23:53.06 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=58790 |
| 23:53.07 | Megalon | read |
| 23:53.08 | Megalon | the |
| 23:53.09 | Megalon | tooltip |
| 23:53.18 | Megalon | or i have to go into nerdrage :( |
| 23:53.32 | harl | exactly |
| 23:53.39 | Megalon | 211 sp |
| 23:53.41 | harl | and as i said, i rarely get into close combat |
| 23:53.49 | Megalon | with 3/3 EW |
| 23:53.53 | Megalon | 274 sp |
| 23:53.58 | harl | thus i don't hit my enemy with my weapon |
| 23:54.33 | Megalon | i think we talk at cross-purposes |
| 23:54.40 | Megalon | i'll just stop it, have fun |
| 23:54.42 | harl | i'm talking elemental |
| 23:54.44 | harl | thanks |
| 23:54.52 | Megalon | read your spell |
| 23:54.55 | Megalon | understand your spells |
| 23:55.00 | Megalon | understand your talents |
| 23:55.08 | Megalon | and then, AFTER you did that, come back :/ |
| 23:55.09 | harl | i do. good luck |
| 23:55.24 | Megalon | EW for elemtnal is a static 63 spellpower talente for 3 points |
| 23:55.30 | Megalon | no matter how you turn it |
| 23:55.39 | harl | lol. yeah. ok. |
| 23:56.09 | Megalon | just accept it, EW == 63 spellpower for ele shamans |
| 23:56.10 | Megalon | :( |
| 23:56.27 | Megalon | or is this Fisker-? |
| 23:56.30 | Megalon | did i get trolled? |
| 23:56.36 | Megalon | kk, you got me there |
