| 00:04.33 | NivFreak | ckknight: so is it dogtags that caches talent specs in cowtip? |
| 00:04.40 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:04.42 | ckknight | I need to fix that. |
| 00:05.15 | NivFreak | that'd be awesome |
| 00:05.33 | NivFreak | since I end up inspecting everyone know :) |
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| 00:10.36 | Antiarc | Primer: Addons are only guaranteed to load alphabetically on an NTFS filesystem, AFAIK |
| 00:10.53 | Primer | what's the slash command to set a raid target? |
| 00:11.01 | Primer | Antiarc: well, I'm on Linux :) |
| 00:11.14 | Antiarc | That'd be your problem :P |
| 00:11.30 | Antiarc | If OpDeps is still broken there's not a whole lot to be done about it |
| 00:11.33 | Antiarc | But I thought it was fixed |
| 00:12.13 | Antiarc | You could hook ADDON_LOADED and re-run your init code if it detects that QuestHelper has loaded |
| 00:16.47 | Primer | that's what I did |
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| 00:16.57 | Primer | but then I thought "What if my addon loads last for some reason?" |
| 00:18.43 | Antiarc | That's why I said "re-run" :P |
| 00:19.01 | Dashkal | Whoa: Sacrifice now sacrifices a portion of the Voidwalker's health to shield its master instead of killing the pet. |
| 00:19.28 | Primer | reallllyy!! |
| 00:19.32 | Primer | I like that! |
| 00:19.56 | Dashkal | Source: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=53664.0 |
| 00:20.26 | Primer | Antiarc: well, running my code in ADDON_LOADED seems like it'll probably work |
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| 00:36.08 | orionshock | where are the chat logs for this channel? |
| 00:36.12 | Dashkal | " * The NPCs just inside the front entrance of Ulduar (like a repair ogre) should no longer despawn. " *cheer* |
| 00:36.13 | orionshock | anyone got a link? |
| 00:36.15 | Dashkal | ~logs |
| 00:36.16 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 00:41.40 | Primer | So are you suggesting that at one time having an addon in ##OptionalDeps did not guarantee that it'd load first? |
| 00:42.05 | robotusch | Dashkal, yay |
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| 00:46.48 | Dashkal | Primer: To my understanding, the purpose of ##OptionalDeps is to ensure that your addon loads after another addon, but does not require it to load at all. For a good chunk of time in 3.0's beta, it did nothing. |
| 00:47.03 | Dashkal | I was under the impression that it was fixed (I've never used it myself so I cannot confirm anything) |
| 00:47.59 | Primer | I guess I need to test it then |
| 00:49.38 | Dashkal | Should be simple enough. Name a new addon AMod and optdep it on QuestHelper. Then watch the load order. (This will work only if your filesystem forces alphabetic iteration) |
| 00:50.02 | Dashkal | It's a hack to depend on mod load order, but can help when debugging |
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| 01:16.57 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2029 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fixed boss buttons for Atlas 1.14.1 beta |
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| 01:28.17 | Repo | 10veneration: 03Tawerner * r8 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 01:28.20 | Repo | - Add preliminary debug/informational output for SVN working copies and Alpha releases |
| 01:28.23 | Repo | - Remove svn:externals on Libs |
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| 01:32.52 | Maelos | Is there a patch anywhere to get Pitbull3 to properly support DK runes? |
| 01:33.06 | Maelos | The rune indicators seem to get relocated on /reloadui |
| 01:34.51 | ckknight | yea |
| 01:34.58 | ckknight | @project pitbull4 |
| 01:34.59 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pitbull4/. PitBull Unit Frames 4.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author), vangual (Author), Stanzilla (Ticket Manager). Updated: 22 hours ago. Tickets: 111/374 |
| 01:35.04 | Stanzilla | wot |
| 01:35.05 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 01:35.07 | ckknight | there you go, Maelos |
| 01:35.18 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r212 / (2 files in 1 directory): Collaborate with myself |
| 01:35.41 | Maelos | I thought it was still alpha/in-the-works? |
| 01:40.53 | ckknight | Maelos: it's stable for the most part |
| 01:42.36 | End | it's probably missing a few things, but it seems to be pretty usable at this point |
| 01:43.12 | Zhinjio | Kemayo: ping |
| 01:44.00 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Yola. |
| 01:44.16 | Zhinjio | Torhal: yoyo |
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| 01:59.39 | Groktar | www.fishnflush.com |
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| 02:04.28 | Repo | 10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r58 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 02:04.31 | Repo | Massive rewrite. Convert to Ace3, no more table churn. Supports queueing item changes while dead now. Button parenting issues fixed. Code is 130 lines smaller and loads more efficient. Still as awesome as ever. |
| 02:05.10 | SqueeG | WAGH |
| 02:05.19 | SqueeG | bloody minimap icons keep turning themselves off |
| 02:11.48 | Repo | 10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r59 SwapMagic.lua: |
| 02:11.51 | Repo | Add support for ctrl-clicking to DressUp items, and shift-clicking to insert items into chat. |
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| 02:15.13 | Zhinjio | what's new Torhal? |
| 02:16.07 | Repo | 10nanopar: 03Torhal * r6 nanoPar.toc: ...change paths again... |
| 02:16.09 | SqueeG | He has devised a machine to blow up.....new jersey |
| 02:16.13 | SqueeG | So...really no one cares |
| 02:16.38 | SqueeG | ;) |
| 02:16.52 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Not much. Waiting for Ackis |
| 02:16.54 | Torhal | You? |
| 02:17.42 | Repo | 10nanopar: 03Torhal 043.1.1-1.1.0 * r7 : Tagging as 3.1.1-1.1.0 |
| 02:18.21 | Bruners | @describe nanopar |
| 02:18.22 | Repo | Bruners: http://www.wowace.com/projects/nanopar/. nanoPar. nanoPar is a LibDataBroker plugin which displays your Inventory On Par score, and provides a tooltip with more detailed information. You will need an LDB-based display addon as well as Inventory On... |
| 02:19.59 | SqueeG | interesting |
| 02:20.06 | Torhal | Hmm? |
| 02:20.17 | Zhinjio | Not bad. |
| 02:20.18 | SqueeG | I wish i had the patience to write an auction addon just so i could name it Raegan |
| 02:20.36 | Torhal | ... |
| 02:20.42 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Detseuqer * r760 Data (2 files in 1 directory): DrDamage: |
| 02:20.44 | Repo | -Fixed the spellpower coefficient modifier part of the Empowered Renew talent for Holy Priest. Also made some minor formatting changes to Druid.lua. |
| 02:21.42 | SqueeG | wow.... i can see the influence for like... 3 major ska bands in Surburban Rhythm's stuff... |
| 02:24.44 | SqueeG | nice 134 error |
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| 02:31.33 | SqueeG | Has any one else run into a random 134 error on occasion since wotlk? |
| 02:32.19 | Groktar | error 134 like craaaaazy in beta |
| 02:32.26 | Groktar | haven't really seen it since |
| 02:33.58 | SqueeG | It seems to pop up the most around the tourney |
| 02:34.05 | SqueeG | It's not consistent though |
| 02:34.10 | SqueeG | I've gone weeks with out seeing one |
| 02:34.19 | Groktar | ah, i haven't done anything with the tourney |
| 02:35.35 | Torhal | I can't even play WoW since last patch. |
| 02:35.41 | Torhal | It crashes sporadically |
| 02:35.45 | Groktar | :( |
| 02:35.50 | Groktar | all i do is stand in if and chat |
| 02:35.59 | Torhal | Sometimes within 5 minutes, sometimes 45 minutes, random as hell |
| 02:36.03 | Groktar | and then spit on the dead alliance whenever there's a horde raid |
| 02:36.07 | Torhal | Heh |
| 02:36.22 | Groktar | last one was really good |
| 02:36.33 | Groktar | they were just riding around if killing people for 30 minutes |
| 02:36.39 | Torhal | Heh |
| 02:36.40 | Groktar | they only wiped when they went to the bank/ah |
| 02:36.57 | SqueeG | rofl |
| 02:36.58 | SqueeG | nice |
| 02:37.12 | SqueeG | Alliance are more active about defending their cities on wildhammer... |
| 02:37.18 | SqueeG | Horde aren't though xD |
| 02:37.58 | SqueeG | Torhal, just make a partition biug enough for an xp/wow install :p |
| 02:38.06 | SqueeG | until the issue is fixed with wine xD |
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| 02:39.08 | ajmitch | SqueeG: wine isn't that bad :P |
| 02:39.14 | Torhal | SqueeG: Well, my copy of XP was a digital download three years ago and I no longer have the CD, else I'd just re-install to the drive that still has the non-functioning XP on it. |
| 02:39.28 | Torhal | ajmitch: Since last patch, I can't play. It crashes constantly. |
| 02:39.51 | Groktar | you can upgrade to windows 7 beta! |
| 02:40.05 | Groktar | well, i think it would make you format an xp install |
| 02:40.15 | Bruners | Torhal: just download XP from any torrent site and use your legit key ? |
| 02:40.16 | ajmitch | Torhal: the only times I've had something like that was fixed with setting texture resolutions to low |
| 02:40.46 | Torhal | ajmitch: I'll try that, but it didn't happen until 3.1.1. Wonder WTF they did |
| 02:40.48 | ajmitch | apart from that, the main problem I have with wine is crap framerates |
| 02:41.08 | Torhal | Bruners: I looked a couple of months ago, didn't see anything that didn't look shady and/or in another locale |
| 02:41.11 | ajmitch | no idea, but I've been able to raid with 3.1.1 like that |
| 02:41.37 | Bruners | Torhal: what locale ? |
| 02:41.44 | SqueeG | Ajmitch: I wasn't implying wine is bad |
| 02:41.49 | Torhal | Italian if I remember correctly |
| 02:41.54 | Torhal | Heh |
| 02:42.18 | ajmitch | SqueeG: it's wonderful enough to get me all of 5 FPS in raids |
| 02:42.22 | Torhal | I'm just glad I have a copy installed on my GF's machine, so I can run MagicJellybean and get my key |
| 02:42.42 | SqueeG | ajmitch: are you running opengl or directx? |
| 02:42.50 | ajmitch | opengl |
| 02:43.10 | SqueeG | Weird |
| 02:43.13 | SqueeG | New machine or old? |
| 02:43.38 | ajmitch | mostly oldish, early dual-core athlon 64, with a geforce 9800GT |
| 02:43.40 | Torhal | Wine does have crap framerates. With my machine, I shouldn't have to stare at a wall to get 100FPS |
| 02:43.49 | Torhal | I get about 20-25 in Shattrath |
| 02:44.01 | ajmitch | it does run much better on this computer I'm at now, which I can't really raid from |
| 02:44.04 | Torhal | 15-40 in Outland in general, and roughly the same in Northrend |
| 02:44.27 | SqueeG | Iunno, I've gotten comparable frame rates |
| 02:44.32 | SqueeG | if not slightly better, on wine |
| 02:44.46 | SqueeG | I just can't see minimap textures in houses and dalaran |
| 02:44.49 | SqueeG | which is annoying |
| 02:44.51 | Odlaw | hrm... just noticed questhelper and cowtip don't get along.. sigh |
| 02:44.55 | Torhal | SqueeG: You have an ATI card |
| 02:44.58 | Torhal | :D |
| 02:44.59 | SqueeG | Which eventually just lead me back to playing on xp :p |
| 02:45.11 | SqueeG | Yes I do Torhal, we talked about it a while ago xd |
| 02:45.12 | SqueeG | xD* |
| 02:45.14 | Torhal | Ah |
| 02:45.24 | Torhal | I just inferred that from the minimap comment :) |
| 02:45.29 | Torhal | Didn't actually remember |
| 02:45.31 | SqueeG | lol |
| 02:45.33 | Groktar | @torhal: www.doihaveswinflu.org |
| 02:45.45 | Groktar | panics |
| 02:45.49 | SqueeG | You're the source I confirmed it was an ATI problem from xD |
| 02:45.57 | Torhal | Aha |
| 02:46.38 | SqueeG | Blerg... OOTS seems to be updating infrequently this year =( |
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| 02:46.56 | Bruners | the minimap issue is something about pixel thingies thats not implemented in the ati driver |
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| 02:47.12 | Bruners | but should be fixed in one or two releases |
| 02:47.24 | Torhal | ... |
| 02:47.41 | Torhal | ATI drivers are shite. I thought that would change when AMD bought them out, but... |
| 02:47.53 | ajmitch | they have been improving slowly, I heard |
| 02:48.49 | SqueeG | yar, slowly |
| 02:48.54 | SqueeG | but it's been getting better |
| 02:48.59 | SqueeG | Especially with newer cards |
| 02:49.08 | SqueeG | mine's on the threshold of not being supported soon >>> |
| 02:49.12 | Bruners | http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1058 |
| 02:49.44 | SqueeG | it doesn't support the texture layering or something |
| 02:50.29 | Torhal | pixel buffers |
| 02:51.22 | SqueeG | close enough :p |
| 02:53.58 | SqueeG | Hrm |
| 02:54.11 | SqueeG | For some reason I think the Exodar Champion is more difficult to beat than the rest xD |
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| 03:28.06 | SqueeG | 10. Chocolate Ramen Soup |
| 03:28.12 | SqueeG | http://www.asianfoodgrocer.com/blog/2009/03/top-ten-most-bizarre-asian-foo.html |
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| 03:33.35 | Kemayo | Zhinjio: Pong? |
| 03:34.04 | Kemayo | Pneumatus: No reason that I can recall, beyond that it was created a very long time ago, and I suppose it's possible that they added some new ones at some point. |
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| 03:54.41 | Repo | 10pestcontrol: 03Jabouty * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): Clearing PestControl.lua and starting over. |
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| 03:54.57 | Torhal | @describe pestcontrol |
| 03:54.58 | Repo | Torhal: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pestcontrol/. PestControl. PestControl was requested by my guildies, and they have not stopped bugging me yet; so I decided to go ahead and write it up. I did an earlier version some time ago, but have since lost the code I... |
| 03:55.05 | Torhal | ... |
| 03:55.13 | Torhal | That explains EVERYTHING! |
| 03:57.03 | SqueeG | O______o |
| 03:57.06 | SqueeG | Oh :p |
| 03:57.13 | SqueeG | Lack of what it does in the descrip xD |
| 03:57.39 | SqueeG | I CAN'T FIND A STORE SELLING MOCHI ICE CREAM AROUDN ME !!! OMFG *dies* |
| 03:58.52 | SqueeG | where is pestcontrol even listed? |
| 03:59.14 | SqueeG | If you've grown tired of all the pests that ruin Battlegrounds by being AFK, but you can't bother reporting them repeatedly, this addon may be for you. |
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| 03:59.42 | SqueeG | might be the wrong one =D |
| 03:59.42 | SqueeG | Anyhoo, night! |
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| 04:05.45 | Groktar | bleeds all over Lisimba |
| 04:06.10 | Lisimba | absorbs the blood and grows |
| 04:08.03 | Torhal | Lisimba: Bad blood. |
| 04:08.12 | Torhal | Groktar has been eating a bunch of pigs lately. |
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| 04:18.35 | ckknight | woo, I got my lvl 60 pally mount! |
| 04:18.36 | ckknight | woo! |
| 04:19.01 | Bruners | congrats |
| 04:19.29 | ckknight | died so many times |
| 04:19.57 | Bruners | at level? |
| 04:20.08 | ckknight | me (lvl 60 ret pally) and my gf (lvl 70 enh shaman) |
| 04:22.27 | Bruners | ok, not the best house episode to eat breakfast with |
| 04:23.52 | Bruners | ckknight: having your gf tank and you healing should make it kinda easy |
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| 04:40.02 | Lywellyn | Trying to figure out how to move around the Mirror bars in Quartz, and have dummy bars appear so I can move them, is this possible? |
| 04:40.17 | Lywellyn | I already found the options to change the anchor, but even when "Free" was selected, I couldn't drag them. |
| 04:40.54 | Lywellyn | Never....mind? I swear that wasn't there a minute ago. |
| 04:41.30 | ckknight | Bruners: I dual-specced holy and it worked better as me with ret |
| 04:43.21 | Repo | 10auctionlite: 03MerialKilrogg * r123 / (2 files in 1 directory): Sell last stack even if smaller. |
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| 05:00.11 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/pestcontrol/. PestControl. Jabouty (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 05:00.16 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/perfectscreenshot/. Perfect Screenshot. Trellmor (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 05:10.41 | Kemayo | Pneumatus: I added the missing localizations into the project on wowace. nevcairel seems to have some sort of automated regeneration thing going on, so hopefully some translations will have been provided by the time that next happens. |
| 05:18.12 | durcyn | so, apparently the brunnhildar village disguise changes your gender, resulting in your children's week matron/patron title swapping every time you gain or lose the buff |
| 05:20.54 | robotusch | :D |
| 05:21.09 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah a guildy discovered that a while ago |
| 05:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i think it's pretty neat |
| 05:21.18 | robotusch | I thought I heard something about people camping that area for the Bunny-maker achievement |
| 05:21.40 | NightHawkTheSane | hm.. that wouldn't be too bad of an idea |
| 05:23.23 | Codayus | You know logically if the disguise makes you female enough to count for the achievement, it should make you hyldnir enough to NOT count for the achievement... |
| 05:24.12 | Codayus | Or, hmm, vrykul, or whatever those weirdos are called. :-) |
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| 05:34.07 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5442 Ulduar (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: Ulduar: |
| 05:34.10 | Repo | - Hodir: Fix hademode timer 2min -> 3min |
| 05:34.13 | Repo | - IronCouncil: Fix timer for Overwhelming Power(heroic). 25sec -> 30sec |
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| 05:58.40 | Repo | - Cancel timer when TakeTaxi Hook active |
| 06:05.25 | krka | ckknight: i personally already have Repo on ignore, but it seems my script doesn't. I can't even see what it reacted to |
| 06:07.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm going to guess it reacted to "LUA" ;) |
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| 07:50.54 | mitch0 | if I need to hide the backdrop stuff on occasion, would it be better to place it in a separate frame and :Hide() that, or should I just set its alpha to 0? (I'd like to avoid hiding the main frame for various reasons) |
| 07:51.28 | mitch0 | (specifically, the show/hide thing happens at target-change events) |
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| 08:04.24 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r213 FlightHUD.lua: Make sure all variables are initialized. |
| 08:04.33 | sb|work | mhh |
| 08:04.54 | sb|work | Fisker-: stop downloading windows :/ |
| 08:05.18 | Megalon | is he trolling away your bandwith? |
| 08:05.39 | sb|work | yup |
| 08:06.20 | Kalroth | Fisker er en bums i numsen på en tissefrø! |
| 08:06.38 | Kalroth | (Yes, that was an insult) |
| 08:08.01 | sb|work | error 500 |
| 08:08.54 | Torhal | stabs Fisker- with a Volkswagon. |
| 08:10.27 | sb|work | wtf? %-) |
| 08:11.12 | Xinhuan | don't feel like upgrading to Windows 7 RC :( |
| 08:11.18 | Elkano | ~lart Torhal |
| 08:11.18 | purl | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses Torhal's head to break the homerun record |
| 08:11.45 | Xinhuan | its a pita to reinstall all the drivers, apps, software, and restore email, history, settings, etc |
| 08:11.48 | Torhal | purl: You stupid fuck. It's "Louisville". ZOMG! |
| 08:12.21 | Torhal | Elkano: Are you ready to fuck over my userbase yet, or not?!? :) |
| 08:12.29 | Elkano | Torhal, what do you think of Adirelle's latest addition to QTip? wasn't that something that could be done with the new animation system? |
| 08:13.15 | Adirelle|work | Elkano: what you mean ? |
| 08:13.21 | Torhal | Elkano: To be honest, I haven't really looked at the new system. What I have seen of it on the o.forums has lead me to believe it is mostly useful for things such as MSBT... |
| 08:13.56 | Elkano | and I still think we should deny direct access to the internal frames and provide our own means for eg clickable lines ;) *run&hide* |
| 08:14.18 | Elkano | well, iirc there was something for delayed hiding after mouse out in the new system |
| 08:14.22 | Elkano | but I could be wrong |
| 08:15.36 | Torhal | Elkano: I agree. My intent has always been to provide a strict yet powerful API, and facilitate frame recycling. We've strayed (by necessity, IMHO) from the recycling...but I'd love to get back to that if the internal API provides for it. |
| 08:16.24 | Torhal | As I've said: I implemented the keyed frames due to our inability to reset shit for recycling. |
| 08:16.38 | sb|work | Xinhuan: uhm why? just upgrade... |
| 08:17.03 | Xinhuan | the installation according to FAQs doesn't allow you to upgrade |
| 08:17.14 | sb|work | but its possible to |
| 08:17.22 | Xinhuan | must be a fresh install |
| 08:17.24 | sb|work | they tell you that its possible if you really want to |
| 08:17.56 | sb|work | but they dont support it and wont accept error reports for broken installtions due to broken updates |
| 08:18.29 | sb|work | google for "cversion.ini windows 7" |
| 08:19.10 | Adirelle|work | Torhal, Elkano: indeed, I commited the piece of code that allows user to easily auto-hide the tooltip after some delay |
| 08:19.53 | Adirelle|work | I thought it is usefull since, according to the forum, there are several people banging their against walls to achieve this |
| 08:20.23 | Adirelle|work | actually I didn't looked at the new animation system, I'll take a look to see if something could fit |
| 08:21.16 | Fisker- | slaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:21.23 | Fisker- | WTF IS UP? |
| 08:21.37 | Cheads | hmm seems like I'm missing something or isn't there an icon for ZOMGBuffs(LDB) |
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| 08:22.31 | sb|work | Fisker-: win7 download is not |
| 08:22.44 | sb|work | because you are stealing my bandwidth! |
| 08:22.54 | Adirelle|work | Elkano: after looking and the animation system, I can't see how I could use it to hide the tooltip when the mouse is outside for more than X seconds |
| 08:23.31 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: That was my thinking...fro everything I'd read on it, it's only mostly useful for "animations" such as Parrot, SCT, and MSBT. |
| 08:23.37 | Torhal | s/fro/from/ |
| 08:25.25 | Elkano | Torhal, wrt the 'internal' frames, the problem is that they have now been exposed in a release version so it's hard to break that again :/ |
| 08:25.50 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: I also think we need to add an EffectiveLineCount(), since GetLineCount() isn't reset until a Release() |
| 08:26.01 | Adirelle|work | actually it could be used for some things, like timer bars, and some smart fading effects I guess |
| 08:26.35 | Elkano | wrt the animation: I remember seing something but I can't find it at the moment :/ I'll try harder |
| 08:26.37 | Torhal | Elkano: Well, addons which use that _should_ be using tag: latest |
| 08:26.50 | Torhal | So, if their shit breaks, they should fix it |
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| 08:27.35 | Elkano | also I don't think the small overhead of clickability is worth leaving it out of the main lib, but that's a different story |
| 08:28.14 | Torhal | Elkano: Yes, different story. However, if you can do so without huge overhead... |
| 08:28.31 | Fisker- | naw sb|work |
| 08:28.48 | Adirelle|work | Torhal: tooltip:Clear() should zero GetLineCount() return value |
| 08:28.54 | Repo | 10wintergrasp-autoraid: 03Antiarc 07master * c98afde / (5 files in 2 directories): [new, +2 commits] |
| 08:28.57 | Repo | c98afde: Add pkgmeta and embeds |
| 08:28.58 | Adirelle|work | it wipes self.lines |
| 08:28.59 | Repo | 5b6b2d3: Initial checkin |
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| 08:29.33 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: Bah. I neglected to take that into account |
| 08:29.52 | Adirelle|work | Torhal: I had a thought about LibQTipClick : why did you not created a button inside the cell ? |
| 08:29.53 | Xinhuan | @describe wintergrasp-autoraid |
| 08:29.54 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wintergrasp-autoraid/. Wintergrasp Autoraid. Wintergrasp AutoRaid is a little utility for streamlining Wintergrasp organization. It will automatically invite people who say the word "inv" or "invite" in General or Trade chat up to five minutes... |
| 08:29.59 | Adirelle|work | I mean Button |
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| 08:30.22 | Elkano | Torhal, I'd drop suport for enter/leave and add :AddClickableLine and :SetClickableCell API, assigning a OnEnter/Leave scripts for a highlight and an OnClick script calling a stored function+arg |
| 08:30.35 | Elkano | but that's a different branch ^^ |
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| 08:31.24 | Elkano | oh, and wrt autohide, it seems like it's not from the animation system but a secure driver |
| 08:31.39 | Adirelle|work | ah |
| 08:31.59 | Elkano | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=15443405133&sid=1&pageNo=5#83 |
| 08:32.00 | Adirelle|work | would it not cause issue with in combat status ? |
| 08:32.25 | Torhal | Elkano: Do it up. There are, from some accounts, deficiencies in the current system...most notably the error reporting. |
| 08:32.38 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: Not if we cache the events |
| 08:32.42 | Repo | 10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r60 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 08:32.45 | Repo | Updated embeds. Fixed a couple of issues; throwing weapons still not showing up properly. |
| 08:35.29 | Elkano | and wrt pushing the scrollable branch to trunk, I still wanted to check wrt mousewheel for the whole tooltip vs clickable tips |
| 08:35.45 | Elkano | meaning if a clickable frame will catch the mouse scrolling |
| 08:36.05 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5444 Ulduar/Ignis.lua: Fix the construct bar icons. |
| 08:37.06 | Repo | 10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r61 SwapMagic.lua: |
| 08:37.09 | Repo | Fix for slots with multiple possible item types that fit in them. |
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| 08:37.31 | sb|work | vhaarr: are you going to put in master looter <> ffa switching for the bigwigs mimiron module? |
| 08:38.03 | vhaarr | sb|work: no |
| 08:38.06 | sb|work | meh :o |
| 08:41.01 | Antiarc | hey |
| 08:41.05 | Antiarc | someone approve my project |
| 08:41.11 | Antiarc | @project wintergrasp-autoraid |
| 08:41.12 | Repo | Antiarc: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wintergrasp-autoraid/. Wintergrasp Autoraid. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 minutes ago |
| 08:41.29 | Fisker- | vhaarr ! |
| 08:41.31 | Adirelle|work | vhaar: any opinion about BigsWigs_RazorscaleFlames ? (see http://forums.wowace.com/showpost.php?p=275955&postcount=61) |
| 08:41.32 | vhaarr | sup |
| 08:41.47 | Fisker- | Why doesn't electric shock or whatever it is on mimiron do a screenshake? |
| 08:41.59 | vhaarr | you mean the shock blast? |
| 08:42.02 | Fisker- | yeah |
| 08:42.04 | vhaarr | it doesn't |
| 08:42.26 | vhaarr | the spin does |
| 08:43.05 | Adirelle|work | Torhal, Elkano: can't get a sample use of builtin autohide feature in Blizzard FrameXML and addons |
| 08:43.06 | Torhal | Elkano: At this point, I'm going to say: Change everything that doesn't require a complete API overhaul simply because your ideas are sound. |
| 08:43.23 | Fisker- | yeah well why not vhaarr? :P |
| 08:43.35 | vhaarr | Adirelle|work: doesn't that ball follow you if you move when he starts casting? |
| 08:43.47 | Adirelle|work | vhaarr: no |
| 08:43.57 | Torhal | Elkano: Additions to the API are fine. Removal/breakages....blargh. |
| 08:43.58 | Repo | 10mob-spells: 03Antiarc * r70 .pkgmeta: Update embeds |
| 08:44.02 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle|work: because it doesnt exist! blizz never uses stuff like that when they can just assume their code is secure |
| 08:44.06 | vhaarr | Adirelle|work: pastey the code for me? |
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| 08:44.47 | Adirelle|work | vhaarr: available on googlecode : http://code.google.com/p/adirelles-code/source/browse/trunk/wow/addons/BigWigs_RazorscaleFlames/BigWigs_RazorScaleFlames.lua |
| 08:45.43 | Adirelle|work | vhaarr: the combatlog does not give enough data, so I have to use UNIT_TARGET and UNIT_SPELLCAST, which requires to either target or focus the boss |
| 08:46.08 | Torhal | Elkano: Though I agree that exposing the columns was a bad call due to it fucking with frame recycling, it has enabled some unforseen benefits as to addon functionality...please bear that in mind. |
| 08:46.11 | [Ammo] | Adirelle|work: useless feature |
| 08:46.18 | [Ammo] | the fires are a complete non-issue |
| 08:46.35 | [Ammo] | specially for the amount of code avilable |
| 08:46.39 | [Ammo] | needed i mean |
| 08:47.01 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: not every raider would thing that ^^ |
| 08:47.50 | Adirelle|work | anyway, if you do not want this into bare BigWigs_Ulduar, I'll release it standalone |
| 08:48.05 | Elkano | Torhal, but in that case I'd rather provide an api for eg setting a backdrop on a column and marking it as dirty then having it openly accessable |
| 08:49.01 | [Ammo] | go ahead with standalone |
| 08:49.09 | Torhal | Elkano: That's fine. As long as they can still do it, and we're able t go back to recycling... |
| 08:50.05 | Torhal | The whole point was recycling. As soon as we had to go away from that (and still, IMHO, due to a Blizzard bug with frames) it fucking sucked. |
| 08:50.34 | Adirelle|work | Elkano, Torhal: IIRC there was weird issues with sharing recycled frames between tooltips |
| 08:50.42 | Adirelle|work | s/was/were/ |
| 08:51.20 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: Yes, that's why I suggested the keyed frame heap |
| 08:51.21 | Elkano | well, I know that they were (although not which) but in a clean solution they shouldn't happen |
| 08:51.46 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: i want this addon :P |
| 08:51.52 | jnwhiteh | will make my life so much easier |
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| 08:51.57 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: Which? |
| 08:52.00 | Adirelle|work | Elkano: one of the issues was that people messed the frames, but there were issues even if they did not (e.g. Blizzard bugs) |
| 08:52.02 | jnwhiteh | wg_ar |
| 08:52.06 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 08:52.10 | Antiarc | So did I! >_> |
| 08:52.13 | jnwhiteh | sounds like the prefect featureset |
| 08:52.14 | Antiarc | It works really nicely |
| 08:52.17 | jnwhiteh | now someone approve |
| 08:52.18 | jnwhiteh | BITCHEZ |
| 08:52.19 | sb|work | yay finally win7 dl |
| 08:52.23 | Torhal | Elkano: We tried everything we could think of, and a tooltip from one addon would taint another...so I decided we needed to abandon recycling on frames, and do it on lines/columns instead. |
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| 08:52.33 | Antiarc | Drycoded it during Ulduar, and it worked on the first WG I tried it on |
| 08:52.44 | Antiarc | Polished it up a bit and added LDB and hey, profit! |
| 08:53.27 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/wintergrasp-autoraid/. Wintergrasp Autoraid. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo. |
| 08:53.32 | Antiarc | \o/ |
| 08:57.16 | jnwhiteh | huzzah! |
| 08:57.28 | vhaarr | Adirelle|work: are you sure there's not a SPELL_CAST_START event for it? |
| 08:57.48 | Adirelle|work | vhaarr: in the combat log ? |
| 08:57.51 | vhaarr | y |
| 08:57.54 | Adirelle|work | yes, I'm sure, I double checked it |
| 08:58.05 | Adirelle|work | actually it does not even target someone at start of the cast |
| 08:58.10 | Fisker- | i hate your addon Antiarc :( |
| 08:58.17 | Antiarc | why |
| 08:58.38 | Adirelle|work | it targets someone a fraction second before the end of the cast |
| 08:59.39 | Fisker- | WG crashes our server ;_; |
| 09:00.05 | Adirelle|work | hrm... actually I might dish the UNIT_SPELLCAST_START part, the UNIT_TARGET should be sufficient |
| 09:00.10 | Antiarc | We had at least four full raids alliance side at 7:00 server today |
| 09:00.13 | Antiarc | It was nuts |
| 09:00.16 | Antiarc | 6 sec action lag |
| 09:00.42 | Fisker- | We had so much lag that we almost lost because we couldn't drop the keep door quick enough |
| 09:00.48 | Fisker- | but we won because the alliance couldn't kill us |
| 09:01.07 | Repo | 10wintergrasp-autoraid: 03Antiarc 07master * 0e97003 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add some doc to the tooltips |
| 09:04.13 | Fisker- | enchanters should be able to disenchant mobs |
| 09:04.39 | orionshock | ~wowalert |
| 09:04.39 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 09:05.10 | orionshock | We will be performing maintenance for all realms on Tuesday, May 5th. The downtime will begin at 5:00AM PDT and end at approximately 11:00AM PDT. |
| 09:07.03 | Fisker- | rep with the Sunreavers should reduce emblem prices |
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| 09:07.39 | Fisker- | enchanters should be able to disenchant players as well |
| 09:07.42 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r156 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 09:07.45 | Repo | chenge the bar settings to use a much more elegant frame than the clunky acegui one |
| 09:07.48 | Repo | toc update -> 3.1 |
| 09:08.21 | Adirelle|work | is there some doc about using external repositories for a wowace project ? (mostly: how does the packaging work ?) |
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| 09:08.42 | [Ammo] | just use the .pkmeta |
| 09:08.47 | [Ammo] | same as usual |
| 09:08.52 | orionshock | Adirelle|work: not really any docs |
| 09:08.53 | [Ammo] | packaging will handle it |
| 09:08.55 | Elkano | Torhal, well, I never seen the bugs in action, only heared from you that they seem to have existed, so no chance guessing what they were... but I could simply try things myself in a branch |
| 09:09.23 | Adirelle|work | should I do a fake commit to trigger the packager at least once ? |
| 09:10.11 | orionshock | Adirelle|work: if you go with [Ammo] 's sugestion, you'd have to do a fake commit each time you updated your external repo. it dosn't automatically repack based on changes in the external repos. |
| 09:10.45 | [Ammo] | it doesn't repack based on changes in the wowace repos either |
| 09:10.47 | [Ammo] | so it's same |
| 09:10.49 | orionshock | as for setting the project up w/ an external repo, i think it has a update frequency of dailie and weakly, but other than that standard ideas apply. |
| 09:11.09 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:17.55 | Repo | 10bigswigs_razorscaleflames: 03Adirelle * r2 / (3 files in 1 directory): Initial import. |
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| 09:20.53 | sb|work | @describe bigswigs_razorscaleflames |
| 09:20.54 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bigswigs_razorscaleflames/. BigsWigs_RazorscaleFlames. Announces when and on who Razorscale casts Devouring Flames as soon as possible. Requires that someone with the module targets or focus Razorscale. |
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| 09:24.10 | Torhal | Elkano: My advice is to look at the comments in the revisions and install one of the earlier ones along with something like Broker_Currency |
| 09:24.51 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r157 modules/ReadyCheck.lua: |
| 09:24.54 | Repo | drycode: the divider bar for readychecks should now handle dungeon difficulty and groupsize correctly. |
| 09:24.58 | Repo | in 10 man anyone in group 3 and higher will be below the bar |
| 09:25.00 | Repo | in 25 man anyone in group 6 and higher will be below the bar |
| 09:25.48 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03grum 07ui-overhaul * 4e46a1c / (18 files in 2 directories): [new, +22 commits] (18 truncated) |
| 09:25.51 | Repo | 4e46a1c: Add scrollbar textures and reposition the inner frames. |
| 09:25.53 | Repo | f177f31: Fix default frame width. |
| 09:25.57 | Repo | 595247b: Re-add window stretching (max 128 pixels, current config limit 80) |
| 09:26.00 | Repo | fb2f10f: Make Show Helm/Cloak appear on the DressUpFrame. |
| 09:26.38 | Fisker- | so i'm guessing ora3 is ready soon [Ammo]? :P |
| 09:27.42 | [Ammo] | can't give you an eta |
| 09:27.43 | vhaarr | no it isn't |
| 09:27.48 | Fisker- | aw :( |
| 09:30.32 | [Ammo] | there is still quite a todo to go |
| 09:31.24 | Megalon | so it's still in a Fisker-esque state! |
| 09:33.35 | Fisker- | i saw what you did there Megalon |
| 09:37.58 | Adirelle|work | I thought there was a LOS status for Grid but I can't find it |
| 09:39.30 | Arrowmaster | not possible |
| 09:42.05 | Grum | you only find out LoS when you cast a spell |
| 09:42.09 | Grum | (and it fails) |
| 09:44.25 | Xinhuan | [17:43:30] [Rgallant-Khaz'goroth] whispers: which realm you on |
| 09:44.28 | Xinhuan | (in AV) |
| 09:44.30 | Xinhuan | /facepalm |
| 09:44.43 | Grum | lol |
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| 09:52.55 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r158 / (2 files in 2 directories): drycode: add some tank detection plumbing |
| 09:54.09 | sb|work | yay, maintanks :p |
| 09:55.48 | [Ammo] | euhm no |
| 09:57.25 | Torhal | [Ammo]: You declined my CallbackHandler ticket on AddonLoader...I'm wondering why. Is it because you explicitly do not support disembedded? |
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| 10:01.34 | orionshock | Adirelle|work: would you consider adding a option in squire to use the "combat spell" while moving and out of combat? |
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| 10:02.33 | Adirelle|work | orionshock: that would be a default spell ? |
| 10:02.58 | orionshock | ya, on my DK, i use DC as an opening move while moving at a mob |
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| 10:03.26 | orionshock | as DC has a larger range than IT or taunt.. it's a rather nice pull spell |
| 10:04.09 | Bruners | orionshock: death grip! |
| 10:04.20 | orionshock | ... |
| 10:04.35 | orionshock | yes that works too Bruners |
| 10:05.15 | [Ammo] | Torhal: indeed |
| 10:05.33 | [Ammo] | cba to support that |
| 10:13.53 | Torhal | [Ammo]: Aaah. That explains a bit. |
| 10:14.23 | Torhal | [Ammo]: Now, I must ask Kaelten to support per-addon "install types". |
| 10:16.41 | Torhal | ckknight: Feh. |
| 10:20.29 | orionshock | Torhal: if it is setup correctly the project shouldn't produce a -nolib zip. Logically i would suspect the system would fall back on the standard zip. |
| 10:20.55 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r159 modules/Tanks.lua: drycode: add the OnTanksUpdated callback |
| 10:20.58 | Repo | mix in persistant tanks with the raidset maintanks |
| 10:21.01 | Repo | todo: fix sorting it's now in random order |
| 10:21.06 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07master * 87dd3ef BonusFrame.lua: [+1 commit] Add set size counts to the summary. |
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| 10:21.53 | Torhal | orionshock: Eh? Which project? |
| 10:22.03 | Torhal | orionshock: Oh, AddonLoader. |
| 10:22.21 | Torhal | Yah, I get a CallbackHandler error with regards to LibDataBroker. |
| 10:22.46 | [Ammo] | don't run fucking disembedded then |
| 10:23.07 | Torhal | I'd fix the .pkgmeta myself, but [Ammo] is notorious for telling "fixers" to go fuck themselves. |
| 10:23.17 | [Ammo] | or install CBH |
| 10:23.23 | [Ammo] | if you really want to run disembedded |
| 10:23.27 | [Ammo] | and yes, go fuck yourself |
| 10:23.31 | Repo | 10wowequip: 03Xinhuan 07StatLogic * 57d5a7c / (12 files in 1 directory): [new, +4 commits] |
| 10:23.34 | Repo | 57d5a7c: Fix pkgmeta. |
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| 10:23.37 | Repo | 7421e8d: Small sort bonus temp fix. |
| 10:23.42 | Repo | d0b1537: Add StatLogic stat summary code for comparison debugging. |
| 10:23.44 | Repo | b86ab7b: Add UTF8 and LibStatLogic-1.1 libraries. |
| 10:23.51 | Torhal | [Ammo]: Hey, I simply asked. I didn't touch your shit. :P |
| 10:29.11 | orionshock | Torhal / [Ammo] iirc there is a .pkgmeta property that will disable the creation of the -nolib zips.. that may suit the needs. |
| 10:29.58 | [Ammo] | it's not documented |
| 10:29.59 | [Ammo] | bye |
| 10:30.54 | [Ammo] | I'm completely uninterested in issues resulting frmo people disembedding |
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| 11:08.27 | Torhal | orionshock: Well, since I have no control over the .pkgmeta...bleargh? |
| 11:09.56 | orionshock | yes this is true. Tho i belive that if your not going to support disembedded mode, one should not allow the project to infer or act like it does. |
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| 11:17.56 | Torhal | orionshock: Good point. |
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| 11:18.10 | Torhal | On a completely unrelated note - I just had a bird die in my arms. |
| 11:18.25 | orionshock | that's a bit sad.. pet of yours? |
| 11:18.45 | Torhal | No. I was at the computer, when I heard a noise at the window. |
| 11:19.24 | orionshock | ... |
| 11:19.27 | Torhal | I went outside, and my cat (whom my GF let out unleashed, against my wishes) was in the yard. I went over to him to grab him and bring him in, and saw a bird sitting calmly next to him. |
| 11:19.41 | Torhal | He lasted about an hour. |
| 11:19.56 | Torhal | He/she |
| 11:20.02 | Torhal | Whatever. It's dead, now. |
| 11:20.40 | Torhal | And for some reason, I'm weeping like a child. |
| 11:21.21 | krka | <cat> i got u a prezant but i broked it |
| 11:21.54 | Torhal | krka: Exactly. When I tried to grab him, he bitched at me in an odd way so I let him go. Then I spotted the bird. |
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| 11:28.40 | Torhal | [Ammo]: <orionshock> yes this is true. Tho i belive that if your not going to support disembedded mode, one should not allow the project to infer or act like it does. |
| 11:28.44 | Torhal | Or something. |
| 11:30.05 | Torhal | orionshock: Cats are evil fucks. |
| 11:32.08 | Kalroth | Natural selection |
| 11:32.32 | Torhal | Kalroth: My cat naturally selected that bird. |
| 11:32.43 | Kalroth | It's what cats do |
| 11:32.51 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 11:32.59 | Kalroth | If not a bird, then a mouse or a rat. |
| 11:33.09 | Torhal | Though, the bastard _could_ have killed him before I got to it. |
| 11:33.37 | Kalroth | He gets to play with birds so rarely and he wasn't really hungry (since you feed him), so he made it last. |
| 11:34.35 | Torhal | No,. It was, as krka said, a present. He made a point of jumping up to the window next to my computer and making noise so I would come outside and see him perched in the lawn next to his prize. |
| 11:35.19 | Torhal | Either a present or a "look what I can do!" type thing. |
| 11:35.26 | Torhal | Either way, he wanted appreciation. |
| 11:35.28 | Kalroth | Odd, our cats usually made sure the present was dead before dragging it into the house |
| 11:35.43 | Torhal | That's always been my experience. |
| 11:36.04 | yoshimo | where can you see the amount of reward-points an addon received? |
| 11:36.13 | Torhal | But this time, I walk out on a cat who needs to be inside and only noticed the bird sitting next to him by happenstance. |
| 11:36.22 | Torhal | yoshimo: Go to your projects page |
| 11:36.34 | Torhal | yoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/home/projects/ |
| 11:37.06 | Torhal | Then, in the right-hand side click on the number listed under "Reward points" and you'll see the breakdown by project. |
| 11:37.52 | harl | i say moo. |
| 11:38.08 | Torhal | harl: I raise your "moo" with a "meugh". |
| 11:40.00 | yoshimo | is it possible that only the mainaddonauthor can see the reward points? |
| 11:40.52 | harl | oO |
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| 11:41.21 | harl | Torhal: moo. |
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| 11:43.16 | orionshock | ckknight: anyone commented on the "AzerothButton" and "OutlandButton" highlights in cartographer getting in the way of things? |
| 11:47.21 | Torhal | yoshimo: You'd have to ask ckknight, since I'm not a non-manager on any project I'm involved in. |
| 11:47.37 | Torhal | harl: Bleet! |
| 11:49.02 | harl | Torhal: määh! |
| 11:49.11 | harl | there. |
| 11:50.55 | Torhal | harl: Ungawa! |
| 11:53.07 | harl | Torhal: rawrr woof! |
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| 12:01.58 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r162 / (2 files in 2 directories): smaller cleaner gui for readycheckreports |
| 12:03.50 | Torhal | harl: You win. I'm all out of cartoon sounds. |
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| 12:06.12 | harl | lol |
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| 12:25.43 | Cheadstina | hmm how come Deadly Boss Mod is so popular (from the number of downloads on curse)... hmmm |
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| 12:28.06 | Torhal | Kaelten: Regarding the drama policy - I believe adding a clause against "Thanks in advance" would be extremely helpful. I always want to pluck the eyes from people who assume I'll help them simply by thanking me before I do so. |
| 12:28.41 | mitch0 | why do you assume that? |
| 12:28.59 | mitch0 | stop assuming that and you'll be merrier :) |
| 12:29.02 | krka | thanks in advance is just common courtesy |
| 12:29.39 | kadrahil | should start using it irl on them to make your point - "hey can you pass the salt? thanks in advance" |
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| 12:30.03 | kadrahil | -> idle |
| 12:30.46 | mitch0 | kadrahil: not a perfect analogy |
| 12:31.21 | Kaelten | Torhal: actually, I consider that to be a relatively positive thing. It may be assuming, but at least it's appreciative, and not in any way drama |
| 12:31.33 | Kaelten | if you don't want to help, he was obviously not talking to you |
| 12:31.36 | Kaelten | anywho showertime |
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| 12:35.25 | Torhal | Kaelten: Bah. Why is it that all of my negatively-polarized humor comes off as being serious? :P |
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| 12:45.42 | Kaelten | probably because I'm not awake yet |
| 12:45.59 | [Ammo] | prods Kaelten with a cattleprod |
| 12:46.02 | [Ammo] | awake now? |
| 12:46.13 | Kaelten | heh |
| 12:46.16 | Kaelten | :P |
| 12:54.39 | Wobin | I prefer if someone states "I'd be very appreciative if someone could help" |
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| 12:54.44 | Wobin | rather than "thanks in advance" |
| 12:54.54 | Wobin | cause that doesn't imply the actual help |
| 12:55.04 | Wobin | but it -does- say that the help would be welcome |
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| 12:57.00 | Megalon | I prefer "Fix it for me... NOW!" |
| 12:57.21 | Wobin | to that I prefer "No." |
| 12:58.34 | Torhal | Wobin: Exactly. What you said, I can deal with. The "I just KNOW you're gonna help me because I already said thank you!" pisses me the fuck off. |
| 12:58.56 | Wobin | It's the "Well, I've already thanked you, so cough up the goods!" |
| 12:59.06 | Torhal | Indeed. |
| 12:59.08 | mitch0 | torhal: again, what the hell makes you think that when you read "thanks in advance"? :) |
| 12:59.26 | Torhal | Others have said "Oh, it's just polite" but how many fucking people have you heard SAY that in RL? |
| 12:59.48 | Torhal | mitch0: I have never heard anyone say that. Ever. It's only in the forums. |
| 12:59.58 | Torhal | And it definitely implies something. |
| 13:00.11 | Torhal | You only thank someone when they have done something helpful. |
| 13:00.25 | Torhal | Saying "thanks in advance" implies that you KNOW they will help you. |
| 13:00.45 | Bruners | because when you are talking to someone IRL you are talking in the present |
| 13:01.05 | Wobin | whilst on the Interwebs WE SPEAK IN THE FUTURE? |
| 13:01.11 | Bruners | when you are mailing someone or posting something on a forum you know that the person will read it later on |
| 13:01.13 | Torhal | Bruners: And how is that different in the forums? You're asking a question and waiting for an answer. |
| 13:01.27 | Torhal | If you don't get an answer, you don't fucking thank them. |
| 13:01.44 | Bruners | and if you do, you dont have to write another post thanking them |
| 13:01.47 | Torhal | I see it as a guilt trip, personally. |
| 13:02.37 | Torhal | No biggie, though. I generally ignore those posts. |
| 13:02.57 | Torhal | I just happened to read one when I decided to get cute with Kaelten about the drama policy. |
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| 13:03.16 | Bruners | what is the drama policy ? |
| 13:04.34 | Torhal | http://kb.wowace.com/policy/drama/ |
| 13:04.54 | Torhal | I strongly disagree with a few of the examples. |
| 13:05.09 | Torhal | I should be allowed to say "That fucking sucks, don't use it" |
| 13:05.13 | Torhal | Opinion, and all. |
| 13:05.48 | Wobin | ... we still have Rock vs Ace3 discussions? |
| 13:05.49 | Pneumatus | that serves no purpose other than belittling someone though |
| 13:06.01 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r5 / (8 files in 2 directories): Tweaking internal. |
| 13:06.03 | Repo | Changed configuration layout again. |
| 13:06.07 | Repo | Added cooldown support. |
| 13:06.52 | Cheadstina | Torhal: I often write "thanks in advance" when I report a bug. But that's just because I try to be polite, not that I expect the person to fix the bug. |
| 13:08.00 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Really? I hadn't actually thought of it in those terms, but I suppose you're somewhat right. Somewhat, in that I hadn't thought of it in that way so it serves a purpose other than belittling someone. |
| 13:08.37 | Torhal | Cheadstina: I suppose I'm just used to people trying to mindtrick their way into bettering their own personal agenda. |
| 13:09.39 | Cheadstina | well if it's their job to fix the bug (I do a lot of testing at my work) then I obviously expect them to fix it, now that they have paid me to test it... but for these addons I just try to inform the developer about potential problems |
| 13:10.04 | Pneumatus | i cant decide, rewriting a project from scratch... should it be developed in a branch of the original addon, in a cloned repo, or in its own new project |
| 13:10.10 | Torhal | Cheadstina: I understand. Do you, though, see where I'm coming from with that? |
| 13:10.18 | Cheadstina | yeah |
| 13:10.21 | Torhal | Pneumatus: If you can't decide, clone it. |
| 13:10.29 | Torhal | You may decide to abandon it later. |
| 13:10.29 | Pneumatus | branch doesnt really make sense, as its not the same codepath |
| 13:10.35 | Torhal | Clone. |
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| 13:11.25 | Torhal | Pneumatus: Actually, none of the above. |
| 13:11.32 | Cheadstina | sure I can see it could be used as a 'mind trick'. But it's most likely because the one with the problem really like the addon and hope the problem is fixed. Try to see it from the positive side ;) |
| 13:11.37 | neon | Anyone know of an addon that is being updated that has the functionality of Quickhealth/instanthealth? |
| 13:11.37 | Torhal | I somehow missed the "from scratch" part |
| 13:11.40 | Torhal | Do it all locally. |
| 13:12.03 | Pneumatus | well, im doing that for now :) |
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| 13:12.18 | Wobin | Pneumatus: New addon, new name |
| 13:12.26 | Torhal | Cheadstina: Eh, that's all I used to do before all of the "nice guys never win" shit made me run screaming to the Dark Side. |
| 13:12.32 | Pneumatus | Wobin: its going to be the same addon though, essentially |
| 13:12.42 | Wobin | just say "Successor to AddonX" |
| 13:12.49 | Cheadstina | I hope you play horde then! =) |
| 13:12.49 | Wobin | "Faster! Better! Stronger! |
| 13:12.50 | Wobin | " |
| 13:12.57 | Torhal | Cheadstina: Orc Warlock. |
| 13:13.03 | kadrahil | i need a couple of 22" monitors at work so i can have 3 80x24 terminals wide ;/ |
| 13:13.05 | Cheadstina | "Die rebel/ally scum! =) |
| 13:13.20 | kadrahil | silly 19" doesn't have enough screen real estate anymore |
| 13:13.56 | Torhal | kadrahil: Size 4 font. |
| 13:13.59 | Torhal | :D |
| 13:14.22 | Cheadstina | Torhal: ever watched Cars from Disney? It's bettr to become 2nd or 3rd than being a prick and win :) |
| 13:14.30 | kadrahil | Torhal: i'm already using fixed, i think anything smaller would be too small :X |
| 13:14.34 | Cheadstina | whoho.. too many funtex here hehe |
| 13:14.35 | Pneumatus | cars has the greatest soundtrack song on |
| 13:14.37 | krka | Torhal: could you please stfu with your mission against thankful people? thanks in advance! |
| 13:14.47 | kadrahil | LOL |
| 13:14.52 | mitch0 | :) |
| 13:14.53 | Cheadstina | haha |
| 13:15.05 | Torhal | krka: Nope. However, my lawyers will be contacting your pimp. |
| 13:15.15 | kadrahil | oh that's low |
| 13:15.19 | Torhal | :D |
| 13:15.23 | Cheadstina | did the pimp charge too much? |
| 13:15.35 | kadrahil | & popcorn |
| 13:15.42 | Torhal | Cheadstina: WAY too much. And no cameras. |
| 13:15.45 | Bruners | why don't you like drama really? |
| 13:15.55 | kadrahil | Torhal: that's what YOU think, you didn't notice the hidden webcam |
| 13:15.58 | Wobin | Cheadstina: http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/pixarvsdreamworks.jpg |
| 13:16.03 | Torhal | kadrahil: Damn you. |
| 13:16.16 | kadrahil | Torhal: hehe |
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| 13:17.02 | Wobin | Cheadstina: actually unrelated to the conversation |
| 13:17.05 | Wobin | but amusing nonetheless |
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| 13:17.25 | Cheadstina | Wobin: but good =) |
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| 13:19.21 | krka | Torhal: My pimp asks that you stop asking for his mom, she stopped working 50 years ago. Thanks in advance! |
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| 13:22.41 | steev | i thought there was going to be a patch today |
| 13:23.03 | Gnarfoz | you thought wrong! |
| 13:24.02 | Torhal | krka: FUCK. No biography, then. I suppose I should ask for your mom then? |
| 13:24.33 | Cheadstina | Magic Rooster Egg let's you ride a giant cock? What's so cool about that? |
| 13:27.11 | krka | Torhal: yeah that would be great if you dont mind. Thanks in advance! |
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| 13:30.13 | kadrahil | ;S |
| 13:30.15 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.16 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.01 | kadrahil | pastey! |
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| 13:31.49 | Repo | More localization. |
| 13:31.52 | Repo | Less debugging output. |
| 13:33.53 | Torhal | krka: Gorram LUA freak. |
| 13:34.00 | krka | Torhal: Whenever someone writes Lua in upper case, god kills a kitten. :( :-D |
| 13:34.00 | Torhal | cackles, |
| 13:34.22 | Torhal | krka: Exploitation owns. |
| 13:34.41 | Torhal | Anywho...sleepages. |
| 13:34.45 | Adirelle|work | i hate kittens : LUA LUA LUA LUA ! |
| 13:34.51 | Kalroth | AUL AUL |
| 13:34.52 | Torhal | Adirelle|work: Hahaha |
| 13:38.06 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: ^^ |
| 13:38.40 | krka | hm? what did antiarc say? do i have him on ignore? |
| 13:38.48 | jnwhiteh | no, i said something to him |
| 13:38.52 | jnwhiteh | but forgot to say his name |
| 13:42.57 | Repo | 10ora3: 03Ammo * r163 / (12 files in 2 directories): use revision parsing on the modules for the version check |
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| 13:45.58 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: the localization is not set up correctly, you create a new locale for Chatter =).. and .. it just breaks for me :P |
| 13:48.14 | yoshimo | adirelle, did you ask funky , rabbit or ammo already to include your razorscale code into bw? |
| 13:48.39 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 13:48.43 | [Ammo] | denied, it's now a separate addon |
| 13:53.09 | yoshimo | i didnt see it on the curseclient yet, so i thought id ask first |
| 13:53.53 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/bigswigs_razorscaleflames/. BigsWigs_RazorscaleFlames. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo. |
| 13:53.55 | [Ammo] | there you go |
| 13:55.02 | Groktar | steals [Ammo]'s bike |
| 13:55.35 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/graphpaper-ldb/. GraphPaper LDB. AesirRising (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo. |
| 13:55.41 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/juhp-navigator/. JUHP Navigator. Multiplyx (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo. |
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| 14:09.51 | Bruners | Would skillrank from GetSkillLineInfo() increase if you have 450 fishing and put on a +30 fishingpole? |
| 14:10.37 | Groktar | bleeds all over Bruners |
| 14:11.19 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSkillLineInfo |
| 14:11.21 | jnwhiteh | numTempPoints |
| 14:11.31 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 14:12.06 | jnwhiteh | err, sorry.. one moment |
| 14:12.12 | jnwhiteh | i'm fishing on my druid |
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| 14:13.04 | Repo | 10bigswigs_razorscaleflames: 03yoshimo * r3 BigWigs_RazorScaleFlames.lua: added german translation |
| 14:14.18 | jnwhiteh | Bruners: it doesn't change when you buff it in any way, those are reflected in the other returns |
| 14:14.21 | jnwhiteh | so no, it won't =) |
| 14:18.35 | Bruners | hmm ok |
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| 14:20.53 | Bruners | then what is this guy talking about then http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/fishbringer.aspx#465319 |
| 14:21.34 | Bruners | as it checks for if skillRank ~= skillMaxRank then SetText(x of x fish) |
| 14:22.09 | steev | argh |
| 14:22.16 | steev | i hate bible beater customers |
| 14:22.27 | Bruners | bible beater customers? |
| 14:22.34 | Wobin | Bruners: what's wrong with if skillRank < skillMaxRank? |
| 14:22.57 | steev | yes, holy rollers, holier than thou, can't possibly be wrong because they are a christian and have god on their side or whatever the fuck they think |
| 14:23.30 | Bruners | Wobin: nothing i guess |
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| 14:24.06 | Bruners | Wobin: not my addon :P, just going to update it with some new poles and toc |
| 14:24.17 | Repo | 10bigswigs_razorscaleflames: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta-1 * r4 : Tagging as v1.0-beta-1 |
| 14:27.58 | Groktar | nibbles on you |
| 14:28.02 | kadrahil | parries |
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| 14:28.23 | kadrahil | toniiiiiiiiight |
| 14:28.30 | kadrahil | i wanna lay it at your feeeet |
| 14:28.34 | kadrahil | cause girl i was maaaaade for you |
| 14:28.37 | kadrahil | girl you were maaaaade for me |
| 14:28.46 | Groktar | casts Darkness of a Thousand Souls |
| 14:28.46 | kadrahil | i was made for lovin you baby, you were made for lovin meeeee |
| 14:28.55 | kadrahil | and i can't get enough of you baby, can you get enough of meeeee |
| 14:29.04 | kadrahil | dodges? |
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| 14:31.54 | kadrahil | woot for going back and commenting the last 100 lines of code you just wrote ;( |
| 14:32.21 | Lukian | <Repo> swapmagic: Antiarc * r61 SwapMagic.lua: |
| 14:32.22 | Lukian | <Repo> Fix for slots with multiple possible item types that fit in them. |
| 14:32.25 | Lukian | Antiarc, what? |
| 14:32.39 | Lukian | Why update an addon that's built-in to the wow default UI now? :p |
| 14:32.58 | kadrahil | it gives him something to do? >:/ |
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| 14:33.24 | Torhal | Lukian: Because SexyMap made his balls itch? |
| 14:34.02 | Lukian | hehe, mobspells got updated too ^^ |
| 14:35.46 | Lukian | downloads Zoom |
| 14:36.07 | kadrahil | mutter something about a mazda commercial |
| 14:36.10 | kadrahil | mutters* |
| 14:36.12 | kadrahil | bah |
| 14:38.13 | Elkano | ok, my server just bugged... had two BoKs on me... |
| 14:38.44 | [Ammo] | happens more often |
| 14:44.35 | Lukian | oh god |
| 14:44.37 | Lukian | FLIPPY |
| 14:44.41 | Lukian | I have to get this addon |
| 14:44.41 | Repo | 10bigswigs_razorscaleflames: 03Adirelle * r5 BigWigs_RazorScaleFlames.lua: Shut up when phase 2 starts. |
| 14:44.43 | Lukian | just to check it out |
| 14:44.44 | Repo | Attempt to remove stale raid icon. |
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| 14:50.22 | Repo | 10money-trail: 03Ammo * r53 MoneyTrail.toc: more bag addons to the optdeps |
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| 14:58.33 | Repo | New project: http://www.wowace.com/projects/icehud_cdbars/. IceHUD_CDBars. Dirtyhealz (Manager/Author). Approved by Ammo. |
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| 15:03.08 | steev | okay, dps dk's out there, +8 str +8 crit, +16 crit, or +8 expertise +12 stam |
| 15:03.17 | steev | unholy spec |
| 15:03.30 | [Ammo] | exp + sta for tonking if you're not exp capped |
| 15:03.41 | steev | dps, not tank |
| 15:03.48 | [Ammo] | and I'd pick 8 str 8 crit |
| 15:03.48 | Bruners | exp goes for dps as well |
| 15:03.54 | [Ammo] | to a lesser extent |
| 15:04.30 | Bruners | always strength |
| 15:04.37 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen'jin&cn=Steev&gn=Cult+of+the+Dead+Cow |
| 15:04.41 | Bruners | unless you are missing hit/exp |
| 15:04.59 | steev | bleh |
| 15:05.00 | Pneumatus | ping: ckknight |
| 15:05.00 | Wobin | yeah, strength |
| 15:05.03 | steev | its not updated again as usual |
| 15:05.09 | ckknight | hey Pneumatus |
| 15:05.13 | steev | i replaced the gem in the pants since i don't need the +6 hit |
| 15:05.17 | steev | with another +16 str |
| 15:05.31 | steev | i replaced the gem in the gloves with a +8 str +8 crit to keep the socket bonus |
| 15:05.50 | steev | im debating 8 str 8 crit and just 16 str in the chest, since the stam doesn't help me that much |
| 15:06.02 | Wobin | stam is good... |
| 15:06.21 | Wobin | you want at -least-20k hp |
| 15:06.53 | Pneumatus | hey ckknight: are you aware that in the "recent subscription updates" section of someones cf/wowace home, comments arent getting proper headers, there's no CSS style on the <li>, and there is no <h2> |
| 15:06.55 | Wobin | otherwise you won't be able to eat any damage |
| 15:06.58 | kadrahil | steev: as a dk i gem purely str unless i still need hit |
| 15:07.05 | kadrahil | you get plenty of stam from gear |
| 15:07.15 | steev | well im planning on replacing my bracers with the bracers from wyrmrest unless i can get a damn upgrade outta naxx |
| 15:07.19 | kadrahil | 19k unbuffed is plenty |
| 15:07.34 | Bruners | steev: faerlina drops some nice bracers |
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| 15:07.40 | steev | i currently sit around 2.6-2.8k dps |
| 15:07.44 | Pneumatus | ckknight: and the classes applied to the other <li> tags have a bunch of leading&trailing spaces |
| 15:07.50 | steev | Bruners: i know, i just never get in on the fights needed |
| 15:07.57 | Wobin | In general, your priority is hit, str, crit, stam, I'd say... |
| 15:08.01 | steev | i'm "friend & family" rank |
| 15:08.04 | Bruners | steev: also darkmoon greatness!! |
| 15:08.21 | steev | yeah, not on that server unless i take up inscription and make it myself |
| 15:08.25 | steev | or buy the gold |
| 15:08.36 | Bruners | how much do they go for? |
| 15:08.38 | kadrahil | ugh, the connection here is so laggy i can't load armory tooltips |
| 15:08.43 | steev | the auction house is so messed up on sen'jin |
| 15:08.47 | steev | 8-20k |
| 15:08.51 | Wobin | You're fine on hit |
| 15:08.58 | steev | im over on hit |
| 15:09.05 | steev | im not enchanted or gemmed for hit |
| 15:09.10 | Chompers | strength is the best stat for you |
| 15:09.14 | kadrahil | ^ |
| 15:09.26 | Bruners | steev: start buying single cards for 800-1000g |
| 15:09.29 | steev | okay, so replace the chest with 16 str |
| 15:09.31 | kadrahil | steev: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&n=Kadrahil |
| 15:09.35 | kadrahil | steev: check my gems |
| 15:09.47 | kadrahil | steev: i'm over on hit too, i need to replace two of my hit gems with strength gems |
| 15:10.03 | kadrahil | and fury of the five flights sucks, i'm getting a nobles deck soon |
| 15:10.18 | steev | bah, you have armageddon :( |
| 15:10.22 | kadrahil | it sucks |
| 15:10.26 | kadrahil | i need a betrayer |
| 15:10.32 | steev | so do i |
| 15:10.36 | kadrahil | but i've been to over 20 KT kills and haven't seen a single BOH drop |
| 15:10.41 | kadrahil | or i'd have had one long ago |
| 15:10.42 | steev | but instead of finishing naxx 25 last night they did ulduar 10 |
| 15:10.44 | Bruners | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dragonblight&n=Mulvan |
| 15:10.48 | Chompers | unless you need the meta gem requirement, gem pure strength |
| 15:10.54 | kadrahil | ^ |
| 15:11.04 | steev | metagem requirement is 2 blues (thus the 8str 8crit) |
| 15:11.07 | steev | er wait |
| 15:11.07 | Wobin | I totally need a new weapon =( |
| 15:11.09 | kadrahil | no |
| 15:11.11 | Wobin | only have an ilevel 200 one |
| 15:11.24 | steev | 8 expertise 12 stam |
| 15:11.38 | Pneumatus | does cloning duplicate a whole repo, complete with history? |
| 15:11.44 | steev | Pneumatus: yes |
| 15:11.49 | kadrahil | http://armorylite.com/us/Stormreaver/Kadrahil |
| 15:11.50 | kadrahil | there we go |
| 15:12.09 | steev | the noble |
| 15:12.10 | Chompers | try a program called rawr, it's pretty sweet |
| 15:12.12 | steev | how quaint |
| 15:12.13 | kadrahil | sucks |
| 15:12.15 | kadrahil | :} |
| 15:12.23 | kadrahil | the guild i'm in is bad |
| 15:12.27 | kadrahil | at raiding |
| 15:12.31 | Pneumatus | is there a way to switch a clone with mainline at a later date if i develop into a clone? |
| 15:12.34 | steev | yeah... i've tried to use rawr, i have to admit i fail and comprehneding it |
| 15:12.38 | kadrahil | i joined to play with my gf and help her guild progress through naxx |
| 15:12.45 | kadrahil | but they don't stand a chance against ulduar |
| 15:12.52 | kadrahil | so i'm going back to my old sunwell guild |
| 15:12.55 | steev | Pneumatus: branch, don't develop in the clone itself |
| 15:13.02 | kadrahil | who coincidentally cleared ulduar 25 week 1 and week 2 |
| 15:13.13 | Chompers | the nerfs have made the starting bosses easy |
| 15:13.14 | kadrahil | i feel bad for not being there for progression but they're cool with that |
| 15:13.21 | Chompers | they could probably do the first 3 |
| 15:13.23 | sacarasc | That just means you're not needed. ;p |
| 15:13.24 | Chompers | maybe the 4th |
| 15:13.39 | kadrahil | Chompers: perhaps, except all of their good players bailed out this weekend |
| 15:13.58 | kadrahil | because they're tired of the bullcrap and being dragged through everything by the scrubs |
| 15:14.06 | kadrahil | er, dragging the scrubs through |
| 15:14.12 | steev | i was about to say |
| 15:14.17 | kadrahil | yeah, hehe |
| 15:14.18 | steev | thats gotta be terribad to be dragged by scrubs |
| 15:14.27 | kadrahil | they couldn't even clear os with more than one drake up |
| 15:14.33 | Chompers | two options, leave and try elsewhere or educate them |
| 15:14.39 | steev | i haven't been in on more than 1 drake :( |
| 15:14.52 | kadrahil | Chompers: scroll up, i'm rejoining my old guild that i progressed through sunwell with in TBC ;) |
| 15:15.03 | Chompers | second option takes time but it'll create players who'll be loyal to you forever |
| 15:15.19 | Chompers | oh, well never mind then |
| 15:15.31 | kadrahil | yeah... i don't have time for that, i work full time now |
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| 15:17.03 | steev | Chompers: not true |
| 15:17.13 | steev | there's no loyalty in the game |
| 15:17.33 | steev | people see some other guild progressing faster, they try to get into the guild, they don't stick it out just because you taught them wtf to do |
| 15:18.02 | kadrahil | uh |
| 15:18.13 | ulic | the only guilds with much loyalty are those made of real life friends, and even then sometimes they jump ship :) |
| 15:18.16 | kadrahil | i gave my current guild plenty of chances |
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| 15:18.37 | Hjalte | I am getting a memory allocation error almost every time I log in to wow. Has it been found out what can cause it? |
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| 15:18.42 | Pneumatus | recount |
| 15:18.43 | kadrahil | trust me, i wasn't the first to jump ship |
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| 15:18.57 | Bruners | if your current guild is totally crap and make your gamelife crappy, why stick with them |
| 15:19.03 | kadrahil | exactly |
| 15:19.05 | Pneumatus | Hjalte: happens to me every login after a big raid, without fail |
| 15:19.18 | kadrahil | i pretty much haven't had fun logging into the game for the last two months because of my current guild situation |
| 15:19.18 | ulic | yep, that's always been the motto in my guild, do what's fun for you. |
| 15:19.21 | kadrahil | and i've had enough of it |
| 15:19.37 | kadrahil | i miss hardcore raiding, i miss playing with players that know what the crap to do |
| 15:19.45 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: Recount or Skada w/ a high limit of 'fights remembered' |
| 15:19.50 | Hjalte | Pneumatus: I am using Recount as well, and I do suspect it of being the culprit. |
| 15:19.58 | Bruners | i don't miss hardcore raiding, but i miss playing with players that know what to do |
| 15:20.07 | kadrahil | heh |
| 15:20.14 | Hjalte | Thing is, I recently changed Recount from 10 to 5 fights saved, which I thought would fix it. But it didn't. |
| 15:20.23 | Pneumatus | we don't have any problems with loyalty, but we are the 2nd alliance guild on the realm |
| 15:20.45 | Pneumatus | i have recount set to 5 fights saved and it still happens every time, so now i just ignore it |
| 15:20.54 | kadrahil | the guild i'm going back to was the horde first guild to clear sunwell on my server |
| 15:20.55 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: reset/clear it before logging out, it should go away :o |
| 15:21.03 | kadrahil | and they were the horde first ulduar clear |
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| 15:21.14 | Hjalte | Gnarfoz: It just sucks to always lose the data. |
| 15:21.21 | Bruners | no horde guilds cleared sunwell on my old server :P |
| 15:21.22 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: I'm aware :o |
| 15:21.32 | Wobin | I like the raiding group I'm with |
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| 15:21.39 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: reloading UI mid-raid has caused it for me before, too |
| 15:21.49 | Wobin | everyone learns fast, and makes mistakes only once |
| 15:22.17 | Pneumatus | ironically, when we go recruiting we get very few applications from people in guilds just under us, so maybe its a realm thing as to how loyal people are |
| 15:22.26 | Wobin | and when teaching the encounter, they don't give a 10min spiel |
| 15:22.40 | Wobin | they just break it down to stuff like "Don't stand in shit", or "Stand in shit when he does this" |
| 15:23.07 | Wobin | or "Target priority is X, Y, then Z" |
| 15:23.14 | kadrahil | yeah |
| 15:23.30 | Pneumatus | the only real issues we have are when people have been reading up in advance and have read up on conflicting tactics |
| 15:23.36 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 15:23.39 | Gnarfoz | people fail at target priority, killing stuff simultaneously, doing damage stops... avoiding shit, standing in shit... :\ |
| 15:23.42 | Wobin | this is why they do it that way, I suspect |
| 15:23.59 | Gnarfoz | it's getting better, though, ;o |
| 15:24.00 | Wobin | Gnarfoz: That's why I like the group I'm with, we're fairly on the ball with keeping track of all that stuff |
| 15:24.36 | Pneumatus | we _should_ get yogg down tonight, we got into p3 a few times last night |
| 15:24.56 | Wobin | Also, I can step into an encounter they've done before, and pick up the bits fairly swiftly |
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| 15:25.03 | kadrahil | heh i'm the 9th best geared DK on SR |
| 15:25.05 | kadrahil | :| |
| 15:25.40 | kadrahil | http://armorylite.com/score/us/stormreaver/10 |
| 15:26.12 | Wobin | hehe I'm not even in the top 300 |
| 15:26.30 | Wobin | oh, I'm wearing my dps gear |
| 15:26.32 | Wobin | which is terrible |
| 15:26.37 | Pneumatus | armorylite's gearscores for priests is retarded |
| 15:26.58 | Pneumatus | all kinds of random people are at the top for my realm, and the top raiding guilds are nowhere to be seen |
| 15:27.06 | Gnarfoz | s/'s gearscores for priests// |
| 15:27.23 | Wobin | ah, I'm 106 in my dps gear |
| 15:27.28 | kadrahil | armorylite isn't retarded |
| 15:27.38 | Wobin | That's pretty terrible |
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| 15:28.26 | Bruners | lal, im nr 14 and i havent played for 3 months |
| 15:28.48 | kadrahil | lol |
| 15:29.19 | Bruners | that list can't be accurate |
| 15:29.24 | kadrahil | heh, i'm the 4th best geared dk on horde side |
| 15:29.29 | Hjalte | Isn't it just factoring ilvl? |
| 15:29.31 | kadrahil | yeah |
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| 15:29.43 | Pneumatus | my gearscore is 3745, but the highest listed in the realm summary is 3690, gg armorylite |
| 15:30.15 | Pneumatus | oh wait, im realm 5th now |
| 15:30.23 | Pneumatus | fail site is fail! |
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| 15:31.43 | Floo | hello |
| 15:31.58 | Floo | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/115869/ |
| 15:32.04 | Floo | how to change text in widget created this way? please |
| 15:32.12 | kadrahil | huh |
| 15:32.38 | kadrahil | i don't think armorylite is adding up ilvl correctly |
| 15:32.46 | kadrahil | if that's really all it's doing |
| 15:33.02 | kadrahil | unless it adds the gems too |
| 15:33.08 | [Ammo] | Floo: editbox:SetText("OMG TEXT") afaik |
| 15:33.41 | Floo | editbox is box into that I can write text... no? |
| 15:33.49 | [Ammo] | yeah |
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| 15:34.08 | Floo | but I want just text ... |
| 15:34.14 | Floo | not editbox |
| 15:34.21 | Floo | ... used label |
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| 15:34.35 | [Ammo] | use CreateFrame("Label") then |
| 15:34.59 | Floo | without ace? |
| 15:35.32 | [Ammo] | AceGUI:Create("Label") |
| 15:35.41 | [Ammo] | and :SetText() on that |
| 15:35.49 | Floo | did you see link? |
| 15:35.56 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 15:36.08 | Floo | i create this label ... |
| 15:36.14 | [Ammo] | I'm unsure what you're trying to achieve |
| 15:36.23 | [Ammo] | as in what is the goal of your frames |
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| 15:36.33 | Floo | and when i click button its return error that "label" is nil |
| 15:36.47 | Floo | -s |
| 15:36.50 | [Ammo] | because there is no label |
| 15:36.58 | [Ammo] | editbox: |
| 15:37.07 | Floo | local label = AceGUI:Create("Label") |
| 15:37.07 | Floo | label:SetText("Label") |
| 15:37.07 | Floo | frame:AddChild(label) |
| 15:37.08 | [Ammo] | or rather |
| 15:37.14 | [Ammo] | you should define label before you botton |
| 15:37.24 | Floo | hmm |
| 15:37.27 | [Ammo] | it's not defined yet |
| 15:37.32 | Silowyi | anyone tried upgrading from Vista to 7RC without doing a clean install? |
| 15:38.11 | Silowyi | I'm lazy and don't want to bother backing up and restoring all my games that I have installed. |
| 15:38.17 | Silowyi | (or re-installing them) |
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| 15:38.21 | kadrahil | yeah i'm not totally convinced armorylite is correct now... there's a DK tank that has 4 or 5 pieces from ulduar and it lists him under me |
| 15:38.23 | [Ammo] | damnit I lost some of my small papers with oRA3 todos |
| 15:38.44 | steev | hah |
| 15:38.50 | steev | just did a comparison of my 2 dk's |
| 15:38.52 | kadrahil | only thing i can think of is gems making up the difference but i don't know how it adds those |
| 15:38.57 | steev | one scores 2126, the other scores 2125 |
| 15:39.02 | [Ammo] | son (2.5y) stole em, and doesn't remember where they area |
| 15:39.06 | kadrahil | you have two dk's? |
| 15:39.08 | Floo | hehe it work now |
| 15:39.17 | Floo | thanks |
| 15:39.19 | steev | kadrahil: 3 |
| 15:39.22 | kadrahil | steev: :O |
| 15:39.24 | Bruners | [Ammo]: l2googlenotebook |
| 15:39.30 | VonhintenHOME` | Ammo: TODO: Don't make me type in maintanks, etc anymore. It's annoying. |
| 15:39.58 | steev | the questions earlier were because this other dk in the guild im in was tryin to tell me to throw away my crit stuff as its "unimpotant" |
| 15:39.59 | kadrahil | VonhintenHOME`: you forgot "thanks in advance", it's the new phrase of the day |
| 15:40.01 | Pneumatus | VonhintenHOME`: keybind |
| 15:40.19 | kadrahil | steev: haha |
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| 15:43.19 | VonhintenHOME` | ~wowalert |
| 15:43.20 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 15:45.28 | [Ammo] | Bruners: even my calendar is paper! |
| 15:45.29 | [Ammo] | I hate digital notebooks / appointment drek |
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| 15:45.34 | [Ammo] | paper or gtfo |
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| 15:46.16 | [Ammo] | VonhintenHOME`: you get to use the blizzard MT interface |
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| 15:50.47 | steev | kadrahil: the reason why i got to asking, is because i have hatestrike and grasscutter, and for shits and giggles (without respeccing) - i was playing with the test dummies, and was hitting 2k dps, and then when i switched to the 2h, i was only hitting 2.3k dps, and i didn't think they should be *that* close together for dps |
| 15:52.07 | kadrahil | steev: are you using the same spec and rotation with both weapon setups? |
| 15:52.14 | steev | yeah heh |
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| 15:52.49 | kadrahil | steev: that would be the problem, 2H and DW specs are completely different |
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| 15:53.05 | kadrahil | steev: and DW spec isn't really as good as it used to be anyway |
| 15:53.21 | steev | i know, but i still love playing with it |
| 15:53.29 | kadrahil | of course, that's fine and all |
| 15:53.31 | steev | just sucks that blizzard constantly pigeonholes |
| 15:53.46 | kadrahil | i'm just saying it relies on procs from talents like killing machine and blood caked blade to be any good |
| 15:53.55 | steev | oh i know |
| 15:53.56 | kadrahil | which is why DW spec is a frost/unholy hybrid |
| 15:53.58 | kadrahil | ok |
| 15:53.59 | steev | i just figured without the spec |
| 15:54.08 | steev | i would be doing 1.5 or so |
| 15:54.22 | steev | not just .3k dps less |
| 15:54.32 | kadrahil | they used to go as far as making up a spec that relied on getting 6 death runes, standing in unholy presence, and spamming icy touch |
| 15:54.45 | steev | heh |
| 15:54.49 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:54.51 | kadrahil | i mean come on :) |
| 15:56.40 | nicoli_s | man the new version of the curse client is looking good |
| 15:57.22 | Stanzilla | giev |
| 15:57.28 | steev | kadrahil: http://steev.net/files/screenshots/WoW/WoWScrnShot_020309_222600.jpg |
| 15:58.02 | nicoli_s | not near ready Stanzilla |
| 15:58.11 | nicoli_s | but man the UI fucking rocks |
| 15:58.12 | kadrahil | steev: nice ui :) |
| 15:58.16 | Stanzilla | nicoli_s: got screenshots of the win version? |
| 15:58.22 | nicoli_s | nope |
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| 15:58.29 | kadrahil | steev: reminds me of caith |
| 15:58.33 | steev | kadrahil: was more talking the death runes :-P |
| 15:58.40 | kadrahil | steev: oh yeah, i saw those |
| 15:58.41 | kadrahil | haha |
| 15:59.01 | Wobin | steev: that's a pug, innit? =P |
| 15:59.03 | kadrahil | steev: i was like, what's deathdeathdeathdeathdeathdeath then i realiezd it |
| 15:59.06 | kadrahil | realized* |
| 16:00.35 | kadrahil | steev: is that grid? |
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| 16:02.54 | steev | Wobin: yeah |
| 16:02.59 | steev | kadrahil: yes |
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| 16:08.00 | steev | thats on my old server, and a while back actually |
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| 16:08.39 | steev | its based on caith btw kadrahil, thats why it looks like it |
| 16:08.51 | durcyn | kadrahil: i dunno, the drw+bb bug is pretty hilarious depending on the situation |
| 16:08.51 | steev | but im using a comp from hellz thats on wowi currently |
| 16:09.49 | kadrahil | durcyn: i've been out of the loop lately so i don't know what that is :( |
| 16:11.13 | durcyn | kadrahil: DRW casts bloodboil once for every target your bloodboil hits, instead of just once |
| 16:11.29 | durcyn | might've been fixed today, dunno |
| 16:11.33 | kadrahil | durcyn: oh wow |
| 16:12.07 | Wobin | ... |
| 16:12.14 | Wobin | that's something I never guessed =P |
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| 16:12.19 | Wobin | will use it more in the future =P |
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| 16:13.55 | kadrahil | durcyn: i'm unsure how i want to spec for dps post 3.1 |
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| 16:14.09 | kadrahil | durcyn: right now i'm just using a spec i copied from some ensidia dk |
| 16:14.21 | durcyn | 51/0/20 works pretty well |
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| 16:15.55 | durcyn | but then it's a deathknight, pretty much any spec can faceroll its way to victory |
| 16:15.59 | Wobin | I'm not particularly sure if bloodworms is worth it.. |
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| 16:20.25 | Bruners | Wobin: what else is there to take? |
| 16:21.20 | Wobin | you don't need it, to get to 51, though? |
| 16:22.34 | Bruners | Wobin: you kinda do |
| 16:23.28 | Bruners | could change it to Imp Blood + Mark of Blood |
| 16:23.45 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVbVh0IsbRfost |
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| 16:24.31 | Wobin | I find MoB useful at times =) |
| 16:24.45 | Bruners | Imp presence is not usefull |
| 16:25.03 | Wobin | 10% extra healing? |
| 16:25.18 | Wobin | vs what the blood worms give you? |
| 16:25.20 | Bruners | why would you need that as dps ? |
| 16:25.36 | Wobin | do the blood worms do decent additional dps? |
| 16:25.41 | Wobin | I've never actually -looked- =P |
| 16:25.50 | Bruners | no idea what they do now |
| 16:26.01 | Bruners | used to be kinda shit before |
| 16:26.09 | Bruners | but the healing was nice |
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| 16:29.12 | Wobin | I guess I never noticed the healing when soloing |
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| 16:30.33 | Wobin | but really, as dps, I'd take 10% passive extra healing over some piddly dps from the worms |
| 16:30.42 | Wobin | cause there's always raid damage |
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| 16:40.35 | ckknight | ~seen Kowski |
| 16:40.37 | purl | kowski <i=IceChat7@pv130239.reshsg.uci.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 202d 14h 27m 9s ago, saying: 'kd3: thanks too'. |
| 16:40.58 | Bruners | sooo, how many tabs do you guys have open in your browser just now? |
| 16:41.09 | ckknight | Bruners: 50 |
| 16:41.32 | Bruners | i need something to browse |
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| 16:42.10 | ckknight | Bruners: ckknight.mybrute.com |
| 16:42.12 | ckknight | <.< |
| 16:42.13 | ckknight | >.> |
| 16:43.17 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2030 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 16:43.45 | Bruners | srsly, cheats |
| 16:44.11 | durcyn | mybrute.com links should be instant bans |
| 16:44.21 | ckknight | lol |
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| 16:44.36 | durcyn | with a kick message of "go back to aol" |
| 16:44.42 | ckknight | if someone comes in and that's the first thing they say, then yes |
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| 16:46.10 | Bruners | ckknight: i had you like down to 50% then pew pew you smacked me down with that club |
| 16:46.43 | Wobin | Bruners: www.sinfest.net |
| 16:46.45 | ckknight | hehe |
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| 16:49.24 | Bruners | ckknight: how do i find fights ? |
| 16:49.50 | ckknight | Bruners: you just enter the arena, you can search for people in there |
| 16:50.06 | Bruners | brutal errors :S |
| 16:51.42 | Bruners | haha |
| 16:52.58 | Tinyboom | smacked you ckk :p |
| 16:53.03 | ckknight | darn |
| 16:53.32 | ckknight | wtf |
| 16:53.32 | ckknight | New pupil: CKKKNIGHT-SUX ! |
| 16:53.36 | ckknight | that is fucking not cool |
| 16:53.43 | ckknight | my name only has two 'k's |
| 16:53.45 | ckknight | get it right, people |
| 16:53.51 | nicoli_s | then maybe they mean someone else |
| 16:54.08 | ckknight | possibly.. |
| 16:54.13 | ckknight | I'm doubtful, though |
| 16:54.38 | Torhal | ckknight: They probably mean the guy who wrote some of the addons they use. |
| 16:54.39 | Bruners | then that was done |
| 16:54.47 | Bruners | resets at 2400? |
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| 16:57.08 | Bruners | Cameron Kenneth "KICKASS" Knight |
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| 16:58.00 | Floo | Usage: EmbedLibrary(addon, libname, silent, offset): 'libname' - Cannot find a library instance of "AceComm-3.0". |
| 16:58.07 | Floo | RMS = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("RaidMStatus", "AceEvent-3.0", "AceComm-3.0", "AceTimer-3.0"); |
| 16:58.17 | Floo | where is error :( |
| 16:58.41 | Bruners | Cannot find a library instance of "AceComm-3.0". |
| 16:58.47 | Floo | why? |
| 16:59.02 | Bruners | is it defined in the toc and is it there? |
| 16:59.02 | Floo | i have embeded it ... |
| 16:59.11 | Floo | in toc is embeds.xml |
| 16:59.32 | Floo | in embeds.xml is <Include file="libs\AceComm-3.0\AceComm-3.0.xml"/> |
| 16:59.41 | Floo | (file is there ...) |
| 16:59.50 | Wobin | did you restart your game? |
| 17:00.07 | Floo | hmm try |
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| 17:00.49 | durcyn | kagaro: ping |
| 17:00.59 | Bruners | don't you also need to define it as a OptionalDeb or RequiredDeb ? |
| 17:01.03 | kagaro | yo |
| 17:01.05 | Bruners | *dep |
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| 17:02.06 | Funkeh` | hey guys |
| 17:02.20 | Bruners | hi Funkeh` |
| 17:02.30 | kagaro | durcyn: pong |
| 17:02.34 | durcyn | kagaro: the locales in kgPanelsConfig toss errors on checkout versions since the localization app only includes it in packages. the :NewLocale call in enUS needs to be called with debug |
| 17:02.46 | Funkeh` | good to be back home at last, what a weekend |
| 17:03.24 | durcyn | kagaro: i can ninja commit a fix if you like |
| 17:03.42 | kagaro | go for it |
| 17:03.56 | kagaro | im at work right now so i cant really switch over |
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| 17:06.53 | Funkeh` | so anything good happen whilst i was away |
| 17:07.40 | Bruners | WoWmatrix has joined curse |
| 17:08.19 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r62 SurgeonGeneral.lua: Changed color of unknown class to 50% gray. (0x7f7f7f) |
| 17:08.25 | Chompers | a better game called world of fight came out |
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| 17:09.27 | durcyn | kagaro: ah, repository closed. http://paste.wowace.com/587/ |
| 17:09.45 | Funkeh` | Bruners, lol yeah right |
| 17:09.51 | Bruners | ^^ |
| 17:10.24 | Floo | ...nfig-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0\AceConfigDialog-3.0.lua line 15: |
| 17:10.24 | Floo | Cannot find a library instance of "AceGUI-3.0". |
| 17:10.27 | Floo | what is this hmm |
| 17:10.43 | Floo | local AceGUI = LibStub("AceGUI-3.0"); |
| 17:10.45 | durcyn | Floo: welcome to the wonderful world of library dependencies |
| 17:10.46 | Bruners | Floo: do you load the embeds before your code ? |
| 17:10.53 | Floo | yes |
| 17:11.04 | Floo | it worked before |
| 17:11.08 | Floo | i add new libraries |
| 17:11.13 | Floo | and change name of lua |
| 17:11.20 | Floo | and now it return error hmm |
| 17:11.31 | kagaro | switched to open |
| 17:11.42 | Bruners | >and change name of lua |
| 17:11.59 | Floo | gui.lua and core.lua |
| 17:12.16 | Floo | in gui.lua is local AceGUI = LibStub("AceGUI-3.0"); and some functions ... |
| 17:13.42 | Floo | i have restarted game after changing ... |
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| 17:17.16 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03durcyn * r329 kgPanelsConfig/Locales/kgPanels-enUS.lua: prevent locale errors on svn checkouts |
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| 17:20.35 | Axodious | so can someone show/explain something advanced in kgpanels that required the recode from eepanels? just curious cause i'm still using eepanels2 for my 4 frames |
| 17:21.44 | Bruners | never used it but check the forum thread http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=11276 |
| 17:21.52 | Axodious | thx |
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| 17:29.27 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03arith * r2031 Locales/constants.tw.lua: zhTW translation updated |
| 17:29.52 | Bruners | 9 hours to go and i have reached 200hours played on BF2 |
| 17:29.54 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r393 modules (3 files in 1 directory): VanasKoS: fixes |
| 17:32.40 | Pneumatus | Funkeh`: not sure if you are aware (or if theres anything you can do about it) but only the first portals at yogg-saron get a timer bar, not the subsequent portals |
| 17:33.27 | Funkeh` | Pneumatus, just got back home, bump vhaarr or someone :P |
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| 17:33.55 | Pneumatus | i pinged vhaarr yesterday i think with the issue :P |
| 17:34.26 | Pneumatus | but i dont have any transcriptor logs to follow it up, so didnt bother |
| 17:34.36 | Pneumatus | will try and do some tonight |
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| 17:42.33 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03Vana * r394 VanasKoS.toc: VanasKoS: version inc |
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| 17:46.02 | Primer | Has anyone verified that ##OptionalDeps actually works? I've been told conflicting stories of it once not working to now working, to it having worked but now doesn't, to it never worked at all |
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| 17:46.42 | AckisWork | iirc it worked, then didn't work, then worked again |
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| 17:46.50 | trh | any idea what could be wrong if i try to tag and get a access denied? |
| 17:46.53 | Primer | In other words, don't trust it |
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| 17:47.01 | AckisWork | they fixed it |
| 17:47.05 | trh | (subversion) |
| 17:47.16 | Primer | trh: use the developer url |
| 17:47.19 | Primer | ? |
| 17:47.37 | Primer | perhaps the public URL is read-only |
| 17:47.43 | Primer | that's just a guess though |
| 17:48.00 | trh | well.. i used svn.wowace.com, i'll try svn.curseforge.net |
| 17:48.06 | trh | i could commit through svn.wowace.com though |
| 17:48.32 | Primer | go to your project's wowace.com page and hit the repository link |
| 17:48.58 | Primer | You should see several different URLs |
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| 17:49.46 | trh | primer: i'm using the url given there ( svn://vana@svn.wowace.com/wow/vanas-ko-s/mainline/trunk ) |
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| 17:52.16 | trh | and svn://vana@svn.wowace.com/wow/vanas-ko-s/mainline/tags/v4.01c-beta as tag url with tagging as ... message |
| 17:52.30 | Fisker- | Thorim sucks on 25-man ;_; |
| 17:54.07 | AckisWork | what are you trying to do? tag? |
| 17:54.48 | AckisWork | @project vanas-ko-s |
| 17:54.49 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/vanas-ko-s/. VanasKoS. Game: WoW. Vana (Manager/Author), xilcoy (Author). Updated: 11 minutes ago. Tickets: 3/10 |
| 17:54.53 | Fisker- | i'm gonna tag your mother |
| 17:54.57 | trh | Ackis: yes |
| 17:55.13 | AckisWork | methinks you're doing it wrong |
| 17:55.21 | trh | Ackis: commit works fine (just commited something) - but taggin doesn't (anymore) |
| 17:55.51 | AckisWork | svn cp svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/vanas-ko-s/mainline/trunk svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/vanas-ko-s/mainline/tags/v4.01c-beta -m "Tagging as penis" |
| 17:56.05 | trh | AckisWork: i use tortoisesvn branch/tag, enter the use and the rease in the message field |
| 17:56.12 | trh | AckisWork: should be exactly the same as command line |
| 17:56.21 | trh | AckisWork: enter the url not use |
| 17:56.29 | trh | rease = reason |
| 17:56.33 | AckisWork | ah I avoided tortoise when it slowed down everything on my system |
| 17:57.04 | AckisWork | are you sshiing over a tunnel? |
| 17:57.14 | trh | nope - no ssh |
| 17:57.21 | trh | no tunnel, no proxy |
| 17:57.23 | Primer | perhaps it doesn't know to tag in the tags directory? and it's trying to create a directory somewhere where you have no permissions? |
| 17:57.53 | trh | Primer: but i gave it the tags directory where all other tagged versions are |
| 17:58.15 | trh | i'm downloading the command line client |
| 18:01.10 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1770 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: |
| 18:01.13 | Repo | Ticket 511 - Deal with the remaining LW trainer items that are missing. |
| 18:01.49 | Fisker- | hurr Ackis |
| 18:01.50 | Fisker- | penis |
| 18:01.51 | Fisker- | hehe |
| 18:02.01 | Pneumatus | Funkeh` / vhaarr, are non-kill transcriptor logs any use for sorting out yogg portal timers? |
| 18:02.41 | trh | AckisWork: i get the same message with the command line client |
| 18:03.11 | trh | ackswork: svn cp svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/vanas-ko-s/mainline/trunk svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/vanas-ko-s/mainline/tags/v4.01c-beta -m "Tagging as v4.01c-beta" |
| 18:03.20 | trh | AckisWork: svn: Access denied |
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| 18:03.24 | *** mode/#wowace [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 18:03.29 | Repo | 10vanas-ko-s: 03Ackis 04v4.01c-beta * r395 : Tagging as v4.01c-beta |
| 18:03.34 | AckisWork | that's odd |
| 18:03.45 | AckisWork | @project vanas-ko-s |
| 18:03.46 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/vanas-ko-s/. VanasKoS. Game: WoW. Vana (Manager/Author), xilcoy (Author). Updated: 20 minutes ago. Tickets: 3/10 |
| 18:03.50 | AckisWork | (tagged it for you btw :P) |
| 18:03.55 | trh | i'm guessing there's something wrong with the vana user account =) |
| 18:04.01 | trh | AckisWork: noticed that, thanks ;) |
| 18:04.22 | AckisWork | your username is vana? |
| 18:04.28 | trh | AckisWork: on svn, yes |
| 18:06.13 | AckisWork | just dicked with it, might work, might not |
| 18:06.30 | AckisWork | when you go to tag next time ping me/pm me |
| 18:08.11 | trh | AckisWork: tried to tag as betaTest, access denied |
| 18:08.27 | trh | AckisWork: (v4.01c-betaTest) |
| 18:08.33 | Repo | 10bigswigs_razorscaleflames: 03a9012456 * r6 BigWigs_RazorScaleFlames.lua: add zhTW |
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| 18:09.18 | AckisWork | hmm odd |
| 18:09.21 | trh | oh.. and the addon search on curse is pretty much broken ;) |
| 18:09.31 | trh | search for "kos", you don't find vanaskos |
| 18:09.38 | trh | even though it's one of the most popular kos addons ;) |
| 18:09.40 | AckisWork | yah search sucks |
| 18:09.49 | trh | at least compared to the other ones that show up on search |
| 18:09.56 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1771 RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: Add some JC recipes. |
| 18:10.13 | Gnarfoz | trh: vanaskos's slug sucks, too :p |
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| 18:11.04 | trh | Gnarfoz: you mean the very slow release-cycle? ;) |
| 18:11.15 | Gnarfoz | no, the slug/shortname |
| 18:11.20 | trh | ah yeah |
| 18:11.21 | trh | true |
| 18:11.23 | Gnarfoz | vanas-ko-s :D |
| 18:11.29 | trh | i think it's pretty much the cause for it not being found |
| 18:11.40 | Pneumatus | the admins can rename it though |
| 18:11.48 | Gnarfoz | got mangled by the auto-transition script back in october |
| 18:11.53 | trh | ya |
| 18:13.30 | AckisWork | ah didn't notice the slug |
| 18:13.32 | AckisWork | gonna rename it |
| 18:13.34 | AckisWork | to penis |
| 18:13.40 | trh | i want vagina! ;) |
| 18:13.53 | AckisWork | @project vanas-kos |
| 18:13.54 | Repo | AckisWork: http://www.wowace.com/projects/vanas-kos/. Vanas KoS. Game: WoW. Vana (Manager/Author), xilcoy (Author). Updated: 5 minutes ago. Tickets: 3/10 |
| 18:14.28 | AckisWork | I also changed the project name to Vanas KoS which is why the search failed I think... VanasKoS didn't come up because search sucks |
| 18:14.52 | AckisWork | as for your svn issue, I made myself project lead then transfered back to you hoping to reset perms, didn't work |
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| 18:15.07 | AckisWork | maybe the slug change will fix it, but you'll want to ping ckknight for him to look into it |
| 18:15.40 | trh | AckisWork: i'm gonna try with the slug change, need to recheckout |
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| 18:21.12 | trh | AckisWork: still access denied.. gotta wait for ckknight to bug him :) |
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| 18:28.22 | nicoli_s | trh hes at lunch |
| 18:29.57 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03Vana * r396 changelog.txt: VanasKoS: test |
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| 18:32.34 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03Vana 04v4.01c-betaViaWebinterface * r397 : Tagging as v4.01c-betaViaWebinterface |
| 18:32.43 | trh | it works via web interface.... interesting ;) |
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| 18:37.38 | Repo | 10vanas-kos: 03Vana 04v4.01c-betaAccessDenied * r398 : Tagging as v4.01c-betaAccessDenied |
| 18:38.01 | trh | it finally worked.. it seems like my svn client transmitted a wrong password |
| 18:38.42 | trh | w/e thanks for the help Ackis :) |
| 18:41.08 | Gnarfoz | trh: svn+ssh ftw :> |
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| 18:44.43 | Arrowmaster | so tagging via svn client does work? |
| 18:44.48 | trh | yes |
| 18:44.54 | Arrowmaster | so i can tell everybody bitching to stfu and its their fault? |
| 18:45.12 | durcyn | i've never had an issue tagging via svn with svn+ssh URIs |
| 18:45.12 | trh | i guess so ;) |
| 18:45.36 | jnwhiteh | hell I tag on wowi and then sync with the remote repo and it works fine :P |
| 18:46.00 | Arrowmaster | remote repos dont have any of the security hooks |
| 18:46.09 | jnwhiteh | ah, gotcha |
| 18:46.11 | Repo | 10wintergrasp-autoraid: 03Antiarc 07master * 0266bbe / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Fix localization |
| 18:46.21 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: --^ |
| 18:46.25 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: ohai :P |
| 18:46.41 | Arrowmaster | which is why remote repo setup has to be specially approved |
| 18:47.19 | jnwhiteh | it'll be easier when wowi has git support :P |
| 18:47.25 | jnwhiteh | heh |
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| 18:49.10 | Arrowmaster | if you just push to two different git repos youll still have to pass the security hooks on the wowace one |
| 18:49.18 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 18:49.20 | Grum | ckknight: chincilla doesnt show my location inside LK instances and it forgets to apply the scale to the location-window on login/reloadui etc |
| 18:49.21 | jnwhiteh | i'm fine with that |
| 18:50.00 | Grum | Zarnivoop: how can i get rid of the Skada minimap icon? :( |
| 18:50.58 | trh | uhm.. is it me or is the localization feature of wowace.com pretty stupid? (it doesn't accept L["string"] = true? |
| 18:51.17 | Pneumatus | for the import, it does |
| 18:51.23 | Pneumatus | or at least did last time i imported... |
| 18:51.34 | durcyn | Grum: it's libdbicon, and it's in the options |
| 18:51.45 | Grum | durcyn: where? there are no opiotns for it |
| 18:52.23 | durcyn | keep looking. |
| 18:52.25 | trh | Pneumatus: ah... now i got it.. the problem was a L[true] ;) |
| 18:52.32 | Grum | durcyn: just tell me where .. sigh |
| 18:52.35 | Pneumatus | yeh, that wont work :) |
| 18:52.42 | durcyn | i don't have it installed at the moment, grum, or i would |
| 18:52.52 | trh | Pneumatus: it works in wow, so it should in the translator ;) |
| 18:53.08 | Grum | there is really no such option inside skada |
| 18:53.09 | Pneumatus | translating a boolean value makes no sense |
| 18:53.26 | Zarnivoop | Grum: General Options->Show minimap button |
| 18:53.40 | Grum | AJBSDKAHSGDKAS i fail |
| 18:53.46 | Grum | why did i look past that about 100 times? |
| 18:53.50 | trh | Pneumatus: well.. a little... L[myBooleanDBValue] instead of L[""..myBooleanDBValue] |
| 18:54.21 | Grum | meh :( |
| 18:54.58 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:56.10 | Grum | <3 Durcyn but it appears i failed |
| 18:56.15 | jnwhiteh | why are people still making minimap icons =( |
| 18:56.18 | jnwhiteh | they make baby jesus cry |
| 18:56.41 | jnwhiteh | thinks that lib should never have been written |
| 18:57.02 | [Ammo] | libdbicon = fail |
| 18:57.10 | jnwhiteh | truth |
| 18:57.37 | trh | jnwhiteh: maybe they want that ]:> |
| 18:57.37 | sylvanaar | people want them? |
| 18:57.58 | jnwhiteh | then someone can write an ADDON which displays LDB launchers on the minimap |
| 18:58.05 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 18:58.14 | jnwhiteh | not a freaking lib that pushes them on us =/ |
| 18:58.15 | [Ammo] | instead of shoving icons down everyones throat like its candy |
| 18:58.23 | jnwhiteh | that's the whole effing point of LDB |
| 18:58.45 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r58 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 18:58.47 | Repo | Utopia: Fixed reading in wrong talent page occasionally. Some validation on received talents, to cope with occasional bad input from Libs. And a button to toggle automatic mode. |
| 18:59.00 | durcyn | isn't there already an addon that displays launchers as minimap icons? buttonbarrel or somesuch? |
| 18:59.05 | sylvanaar | you know what, its the author's decision. |
| 18:59.24 | jnwhiteh | yes, and some authors make the wrong decision :P |
| 19:00.20 | jnwhiteh | the whole point of LDB is the developer really shouldn't be making those decisions.. so why you would subscribe to LDB and then poop on it I don't know |
| 19:00.20 | Grum | shouldnt LDB just have LibIcon support? |
| 19:00.32 | Grum | so you can select if you want to see a LDB source as an icon as well? |
| 19:00.44 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 19:00.45 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 19:00.49 | Grum | why not? |
| 19:00.49 | jnwhiteh | LDB doesn't define display in any way |
| 19:00.54 | Grum | ah yeah |
| 19:00.56 | jnwhiteh | that's the point of the display addon |
| 19:01.00 | Grum | a LDB-display addon that uses LibIcon :) |
| 19:01.02 | jnwhiteh | which is what we're saying |
| 19:01.07 | sylvanaar | you know - joe blow user doesnt care about LDB |
| 19:01.14 | sylvanaar | they want a minimap icon |
| 19:01.18 | jnwhiteh | hah |
| 19:01.20 | jnwhiteh | okay then |
| 19:01.24 | Grum | who made that iconlib? |
| 19:01.28 | sylvanaar | they dont care for ideological debates |
| 19:01.30 | jnwhiteh | the experience I have had with my users is completely different |
| 19:01.33 | jnwhiteh | they do not want a minimap icon |
| 19:01.38 | Grum | i hate minimap icons |
| 19:01.41 | sylvanaar | right they want it or they dont |
| 19:01.46 | jnwhiteh | so I give them a launcher, and they can display it in FuBar, Titan, NinjaPanel or on the minimap if they want. |
| 19:01.47 | Grum | BAH! around stuff around a square minimap is meant to be FAIL |
| 19:01.53 | jnwhiteh | they make the decicsion |
| 19:01.59 | jnwhiteh | without needing to be involved in the debate |
| 19:02.02 | Repo | 10feed-it: 03Adirelle * r25 / (2 files in 1 directory): Item set upgrade. |
| 19:02.05 | Repo | TOC bump. |
| 19:02.11 | sylvanaar | they have to be informed |
| 19:02.17 | sylvanaar | good luck |
| 19:02.33 | jnwhiteh | I've had no problems informing my users, thanks. |
| 19:02.56 | durcyn | giving up obviously isn't the answer either |
| 19:03.09 | Antiarc | I attribute half of sexymap's success to the fact that it removes minimap buttons :P |
| 19:03.28 | Grum | haha it just removes parented frames orso? :D |
| 19:04.04 | sylvanaar | honestly having to install a display addon for bigwigs was stupid - thats what libdbicon was made right? |
| 19:04.06 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: that's why I don't undestand why people continue to perpetrate the myth that MOST users WANT minimap icons. Perhaps they have different experiences, but every conversation I've had involves removing them.. not lack of them. |
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| 19:04.31 | Antiarc | Most users just want a way to get at a mod's config without playing guess-the-slash-command |
| 19:04.37 | sylvanaar | ^^^ |
| 19:04.40 | durcyn | it's not so much about minimap icons as having a default display |
| 19:04.43 | Antiarc | Putting an entry into the Blizzard addon config thing is usually sufficient |
| 19:04.45 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: interface options.. |
| 19:04.52 | jnwhiteh | this isn't 2.4.3 anymore |
| 19:04.54 | sylvanaar | they dont know about that |
| 19:04.57 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 19:05.03 | Antiarc | Time for some edumacation! |
| 19:05.06 | jnwhiteh | seriously |
| 19:05.12 | sylvanaar | are you really that out of touch with the average user? |
| 19:05.20 | jnwhiteh | are you? |
| 19:05.24 | NightHawkTheSane | .. I've yet to get a complaint saying a user couldn't find my mod's options panel. |
| 19:05.29 | Antiarc | Developers pushed minimap buttons, not users |
| 19:05.31 | jnwhiteh | Read the 8000 users comments I've responded to |
| 19:05.37 | jnwhiteh | and tell me I'm out of touch |
| 19:05.37 | Antiarc | It's learned expecation, and can be changed |
| 19:05.39 | Grum | the option panel should be integrated into the blizz option panel |
| 19:05.44 | sylvanaar | perhaps you users arent average |
| 19:05.45 | Grum | not some kind of custon made piece of crap |
| 19:06.05 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: If you knew anything about my user base, you'd know the bulk of my users are "the average" user. |
| 19:06.07 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: got about 4 after i moved them from available via configuration button in main gui to interface options |
| 19:06.15 | jnwhiteh | and guess what, they all know how to find TomTom's options. |
| 19:06.25 | jnwhiteh | and I don't even write about it in the addon description |
| 19:06.35 | NightHawkTheSane | trh: that's almost justifiable, as it's a move from and old->new location, but 4 is still.. small. |
| 19:07.09 | trh | NightHawkTheSane: well.. it's not a popular addon.. and the interface options were pretty new at the time.. i guess today no one would write ;) |
| 19:07.49 | sylvanaar | anyhow - i think the point is that if an addon had a minimap icon before LDB, it should after LDB without having to install some other display |
| 19:08.17 | durcyn | a minimap icon that was provided by fubarplugin, in your example |
| 19:08.17 | jnwhiteh | yes, but people are including them in NEW addons.. and addons that never should have had them to begin with should have dropped them. |
| 19:08.22 | Antiarc | It's just a matter of standard behavior and expectations. Minimap buttons were first, then I expected all my mods to be configured through DeuceCommander, and now I expect them in the interface options |
| 19:08.23 | jnwhiteh | BigWigs.. I'll give you |
| 19:08.25 | jnwhiteh | the install base is huge |
| 19:08.28 | sylvanaar | since libdbicon isnt supposed to show any ldb that doesnt specifically register with ith |
| 19:08.28 | jnwhiteh | but they would have adapted |
| 19:08.36 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't think it's necessarily that users don't want the minimap icons, just that the area is small and there are too many as it is |
| 19:09.01 | sylvanaar | so its just like the addon provides a minimap icon option |
| 19:09.01 | durcyn | VonhintenHOME`: if anything ever tries to attach itself to my minimap, i kill it with fire. and i'm not alone. |
| 19:09.04 | Antiarc | I remember the first time I installed Cosmos. I felt overwhelmed. |
| 19:09.09 | Antiarc | And I was not an addon developer at that time. |
| 19:09.23 | jnwhiteh | ~seen Adirelle |
| 19:09.27 | purl | adirelle <n=Adirelle@tok69-5-82-235-150-60.fbx.proxad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 23h 32m 45s ago, saying: 'anyway, I'm off for a while'. |
| 19:09.28 | sylvanaar | the other crap around the minimap doesnt help |
| 19:09.39 | VonhintenHOME` | durcyn, I hear ya.. I do too, but that's because I now use ldb icons on a fortress bar |
| 19:10.36 | Repo | 10wintergrasp-autoraid: 03Antiarc 07master * 29d1ba2 WintergraspAutoRaid.toc: [+1 commit] Fix a path issue in the toc |
| 19:10.39 | VonhintenHOME` | my desire for the config launchers to be small and visible hasn't gone away, I just don't want them cluttered on my minimap |
| 19:10.51 | kadrahil | Antiarc: my first introduction to addons ever was when i saw a screenshot with titan panel years ago |
| 19:11.10 | sylvanaar | with titan you dont need minimap icons |
| 19:11.43 | kadrahil | Antiarc: and i was like HOLY CRAP THAT'S AWESOME and then i googled wow addons and the rest is history D: |
| 19:12.00 | sylvanaar | LDB didnt fully replace what fubar provided - otherwise there'd be no libdbicon |
| 19:12.10 | sylvanaar | pragmatism > idealism |
| 19:13.22 | Antiarc | Lukian: re: SwapMagic, because Blizzard's implementation annoys me |
| 19:13.36 | sylvanaar | yeah swapmagic is awesome |
| 19:13.42 | Grum | what is it? :D |
| 19:13.55 | Antiarc | Hold alt over an inventory slot and all possible items for that slot pop out |
| 19:14.07 | Antiarc | http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/14772/14741/WoWScrnShot_050509_013753.jpg |
| 19:14.08 | sylvanaar | hold alt to see your items for that slot (like outfitter) |
| 19:14.09 | durcyn | Antiarc: speaking of, fix its optdeps please |
| 19:14.33 | nicoli_s | runes of magic has that functionality built in |
| 19:14.46 | VonhintenHOME` | itemrack as well |
| 19:14.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: how does blizzard's annoy you, and how is swapmagic different? |
| 19:14.57 | sylvanaar | and man wtf is a "launcher", and why did i have to change mine to a "data source" because I had a text field |
| 19:14.59 | Repo | 10swapmagic: 03Antiarc * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix opdeps and remove a duplicate embed. |
| 19:15.22 | Lukian | Antiarc, fair enough :) |
| 19:15.23 | Antiarc | NightHawkTheSane: The biggest issue is that Blizzard's goes away as soon as you release alt |
| 19:15.35 | Antiarc | And SwapMagic has trained my muscle memory to tap alt and then select what I want |
| 19:15.40 | Lukian | Antiarc, I find it annoying to be able to switch to a ring or trinket I'm already wearing for one |
| 19:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | fair enough. :) |
| 19:15.47 | Lukian | yeah, holding alt sucks |
| 19:16.14 | Lukian | perhaps expand the addon description? :D |
| 19:16.26 | Antiarc | yeah, I should |
| 19:17.41 | Gnarfoz | ItemRack started it all :o |
| 19:17.47 | Gnarfoz | ~seen gello |
| 19:17.48 | purl | gello <n=chatzill@hmpdmehed51-pool3-a127.hmpdme.tds.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 891d 13h 18m 13s ago, saying: 'if you do <PushedTexture file="same file"><TexCoords left=".1" right=".9" top=".1" bottom=".9"/></PushedTexture> then it will look like it "pushes" without needing new artwork'. |
| 19:17.53 | Gnarfoz | too bad he's never around ;P |
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| 19:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | 891 days.. heh |
| 19:21.22 | Repo | 10utopia: 03Zeksie * r59 Utopia.lua: Utopia: oop. talent fix for self. |
| 19:22.32 | Kaelten | wtf |
| 19:22.33 | Kaelten | http://www.curse.com/forums/p/95829/468528.aspx#468528 |
| 19:23.01 | kagaro | ??? |
| 19:23.08 | Kaelten | KAGARO! |
| 19:23.13 | kagaro | sup sup |
| 19:23.15 | trh | "After a severe memory crash, I rebooted my computer only to find that I am now in a continuous boot loop." |
| 19:23.32 | trh | hey my memory is broken.. it's your fault! ;) |
| 19:24.03 | jnwhiteh | CURSE POISONED MY MEMORY |
| 19:24.17 | VonhintenHOME` | There are indeed some extremely dumb users out there |
| 19:24.33 | trh | VonhintenHOME`: you ever looked into the barrens chat? ;) |
| 19:24.34 | steev | i love the |
| 19:24.40 | steev | "take it off my computer" part |
| 19:24.43 | durcyn | except that's 100% guaranteed to be a troll |
| 19:24.53 | steev | i get a lot of calls daily about that :( |
| 19:25.02 | VonhintenHOME` | trh, who needs barrens chat, you should see Trade chat on Alli Garona |
| 19:25.05 | steev | MY WIFE AND I GOT DIVORCED AND I WANT YOU TO UNINSTALL MY FILTER |
| 19:25.24 | *** join/#wowace Hirsute (n=Rupert@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/Hirsute) |
| 19:25.24 | steev | I'm sorry sir, I can't uninstall your filter from here, thats something you have to do on your own. |
| 19:25.32 | trh | VonhintenHOME`: oh well.. trade chat is basically the new-style barrens chat ;) |
| 19:25.43 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: now you should actually load the localization files :P |
| 19:25.53 | jnwhiteh | they're in localization/enUS.lua not just enUS.lua |
| 19:26.00 | VonhintenHOME` | Half the time all I see if variations of: |
| 19:26.15 | VonhintenHOME` | 2. Trade <Douche> say: Anal [Riposte] |
| 19:26.26 | Grum | Anal [Swine Flu] ! |
| 19:26.30 | Antiarc | yeah, pushed that |
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| 19:26.38 | Antiarc | I need to mark it as release |
| 19:26.49 | jnwhiteh | ah okay |
| 19:26.59 | Antiarc | sorry. kiddo's keeping me distracted. |
| 19:27.02 | jnwhiteh | no worries |
| 19:27.03 | Antiarc | He's fussy this morning :P |
| 19:27.39 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: any chance of getting you to add the time until battle, or should i grab another addon for that |
| 19:27.44 | jnwhiteh | to the feed i mean |
| 19:27.54 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: It's in the LBD plugin's tooltip |
| 19:28.07 | jnwhiteh | yeah, just prefer to have it always displayed |
| 19:28.11 | jnwhiteh | i don't care if the addon is active or not :P |
| 19:28.19 | jnwhiteh | but i can dl another addon for that if need be |
| 19:28.19 | Antiarc | Makes sense, I'll add a toggle |
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| 19:32.21 | Fisker- | IN THE MOUNTAINS |
| 19:33.30 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: thorim? |
| 19:33.32 | durcyn | I REMEMBER YOU, FISKER- |
| 19:33.47 | Cartas | Everyone remembers Fisker. |
| 19:34.08 | durcyn | and yes, it's thorim's horrible terrible astoundingly bad voice acting |
| 19:36.23 | Lukian | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.18 | Gnarfoz | Lukian: exactly what we did with 3.1 |
| 19:37.36 | VonhintenHOME` | So, Mimiron... seemed like an easy fight, except for some reason, our ranged tank kept getting pwned by new mech spawn, and then the bomb bots would drop and move so fast they'd nail someone in the raid... |
| 19:37.36 | kadrahil | i still want to go back for a betrayer of humanity |
| 19:37.37 | kadrahil | :( |
| 19:37.41 | kadrahil | IT NEVER DROPPED |
| 19:37.41 | kadrahil | EVER |
| 19:37.57 | Gnarfoz | kadrahil: get something bettar from Ulduar, I guess - or PUG it ;P |
| 19:38.12 | kadrahil | Gnarfoz: it's looking that way |
| 19:38.44 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: stay away from the ACU - they drop straight down from there. taunt them when they land so someone who can take the damage easily gets hit and nobody else |
| 19:39.02 | durcyn | VonhintenHOME`: we have a bear standing under the boss to pop bombs as soon as they spawn |
| 19:39.05 | Gnarfoz | VonhintenHOME`: not sure about assault bots yet, only reached Mimiron late last raid on heroic |
| 19:39.26 | durcyn | as for assault bots, kiting works fine |
| 19:39.30 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: he taunts them, not damages them, right? |
| 19:39.47 | Antiarc | Use pets to pop bombs |
| 19:39.49 | VonhintenHOME` | hmm, eat the damage.. yeah, we had a DK slowing and ranged killing, but one moved at hyper speed |
| 19:39.49 | Antiarc | They take less AOE damage |
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| 19:40.04 | VonhintenHOME` | good point |
| 19:40.15 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: if you can controllably make them do so, that's not a bad idea at all |
| 19:40.16 | Repo | 10wintergrasp-autoraid: 03Antiarc 07master * 4c95003 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Text on bar is now the Wintergrasp time, rather than active/inactive status |
| 19:40.27 | Gnarfoz | does any pet have taunt on a short enough cooldown to do that? |
| 19:40.28 | VonhintenHOME` | so recommended to move during that phase, to keep boss at a good range? |
| 19:40.34 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: We do it quite reliably |
| 19:40.42 | Antiarc | Keep the boss in the middle, really |
| 19:41.00 | Gnarfoz | middle sucks :P no AoE targetting circle for whoever puts down the traps |
| 19:41.02 | Antiarc | frost trap under him for bombs |
| 19:41.06 | Antiarc | Pets pop boms |
| 19:41.11 | Antiarc | We just tank the assault bots, though |
| 19:41.32 | Antiarc | If you need an AOE targeting circle to place traps you might need to gtfo of ulduar :P |
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| 19:44.09 | Fisker- | OMG |
| 19:44.11 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r63 / (2 files in 2 directories): More tweaking to tooltip stuff. |
| 19:44.12 | Fisker- | IN THE MOUNTAINS |
| 19:44.18 | Fisker- | and then he got freed |
| 19:44.29 | Lukian | I wonder what the limit on Stone Keeper's Shards is. |
| 19:44.30 | Fisker- | man i hate wiping for 6 hours to find the simplest of solutions |
| 19:44.39 | Fisker- | We just bunched up and aoe'd the arena |
| 19:44.54 | Antiarc | 10 or 25? |
| 19:44.57 | durcyn | Fisker-: FoK spam |
| 19:45.14 | Antiarc | Because your healers get pwnt on 25 by the hammer if you do that, we found |
| 19:45.25 | Fisker- | 25 yeah |
| 19:45.33 | Fisker- | and it worked just fine |
| 19:45.42 | Fisker- | not a healer so dunno what challenges they had |
| 19:45.43 | Pneumatus | we bunch up on 25man |
| 19:45.45 | Antiarc | huh. well woot. |
| 19:45.46 | Fisker- | i just know it worked :D |
| 19:45.58 | durcyn | oh, and disarm |
| 19:46.05 | durcyn | rogues are hilarious in the arena in p1 |
| 19:46.08 | Pneumatus | disarming the whirlwind fuckers is the key to that fight |
| 19:46.18 | durcyn | dismantle+fok, collect loot |
| 19:46.29 | Fisker- | fok? |
| 19:46.31 | Fisker- | ah |
| 19:46.33 | Gnarfoz | fan of knives |
| 19:46.33 | Fisker- | fan of knives |
| 19:46.39 | durcyn | fan of knives with throwing specialization |
| 19:46.44 | Antiarc | ^-- |
| 19:46.44 | Gnarfoz | and: kill the evokers first is also nice |
| 19:46.44 | durcyn | not a single cast gets off ever |
| 19:47.12 | Antiarc | what we did is put a rogue and druid tank on the whirlwind guys, other DPS focused down the evokers and then AOE'd in between spawns |
| 19:47.20 | Antiarc | That keeps you from having more than 1 WW guy up at a time |
| 19:47.32 | Hjalte | ckknight: Do you have any idea why I get this error? I am using Pitbull 4: http://paste.wowace.com/588/ |
| 19:47.33 | Gnarfoz | FoK+throwing spec sounds really awesome though |
| 19:47.39 | Antiarc | It is |
| 19:47.45 | Antiarc | In the arena is it downright hilarious. |
| 19:47.51 | ckknight | odd, Hjalte |
| 19:47.53 | ckknight | lemme check |
| 19:47.58 | Antiarc | Let me tell you a story |
| 19:48.09 | Antiarc | I was doing 3s, and ran into a mage/boomkin/priest team |
| 19:48.13 | VonhintenHOME` | Fuck, I wish I could get throwing spec back in my normal spec |
| 19:48.18 | Antiarc | They were kind enough to bunch up and pop all their pets at the same time |
| 19:48.24 | durcyn | what's sad is that glyphed fan is almost more single target damage than an actual rotation now |
| 19:48.26 | VonhintenHOME` | The lightning reflexes changes hosed that all up |
| 19:48.36 | Antiarc | So I popped blade flurry, FoK'd once, and the blade flurry on all 10 targets got channeled into the mage. |
| 19:48.40 | Antiarc | He got instagibbed. |
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| 19:49.34 | Gnarfoz | not playing my rogue anymore, how does the FoK damage move onto a single target? |
| 19:49.44 | VonhintenHOME` | I do like having higher dodge again though... I've evasion tanked a few bosses while we b-res dead tanks... helps |
| 19:49.47 | Antiarc | Blade Flurry channels mainhand hits into your closest target |
| 19:49.57 | Antiarc | In the case of FoK, it attacks with both weapons on all targets within 8 yards |
| 19:50.08 | Antiarc | So, all the mainhand attacks get mirrored onto your nearest hostile |
| 19:50.12 | Antiarc | In that case, the mage. |
| 19:50.26 | Antiarc | So he ate two hits from FoK and 10 hits from Blade Flurry in one GCD |
| 19:50.56 | Antiarc | (and throwing spec interrupted him, his boomkin, the pennance the priest was casting, and a boomkin's wrath) |
| 19:50.59 | Repo | 10libdogtag-unit-3-0: 03ckknight * r190 Categories/Cast.lua: possible bugfix for the invalid key to next issue. |
| 19:51.02 | ckknight | Hjalte: ^-- |
| 19:51.22 | Antiarc | err, his mirror images |
| 19:51.23 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah antiarc, it's pretty OP'd in PVP |
| 19:51.42 | VonhintenHOME` | Killing Spree is all kinds of nasty too, on lone targets |
| 19:51.46 | Antiarc | Yup. |
| 19:52.02 | Antiarc | I'm 2150 or so right now as disc/combat, mostly because of killing spree |
| 19:52.07 | Gnarfoz | hm, I'm missing something where 2 hits make 10 hits |
| 19:52.19 | Antiarc | The mage ate two FoK hits from my FoK |
| 19:52.31 | Antiarc | The mirror images, treants, mage, boomkin, and priest all ate FoK hits |
| 19:52.37 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 19:52.40 | Antiarc | All those FoK hits got mirrored by Blade Flurry into the mage |
| 19:52.41 | Gnarfoz | regardless of who gets hit by FoK |
| 19:52.45 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 19:52.48 | Antiarc | right |
| 19:52.53 | Gnarfoz | hehe, evil |
| 19:53.45 | Antiarc | PVP as combat is about creating opporunities |
| 19:53.52 | NeoTron | so best idea ever - send a /1 message every time someone steps in a cloud @ Yogg |
| 19:54.01 | Antiarc | If we fight healer/DPS, my priest drags their DPS on top of me, and I pop blade flurry |
| 19:54.07 | Antiarc | Most don't realize what's going on and sit in it |
| 19:54.13 | VonhintenHOME` | nothing quite so comical as blade flurrying two people down who were silly enough to stand next to each other |
| 19:54.20 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: you could probably make FailBot do that ;p |
| 19:54.35 | Antiarc | blade flurry with killing spree into adrenaline rush is insane pressure. |
| 19:54.46 | VonhintenHOME` | yep |
| 19:54.55 | Antiarc | The best part, though |
| 19:54.59 | Antiarc | Is that blade flurry isn't dodgable |
| 19:54.59 | NeoTron | Gnarfoz: the main point of the post was that there's no CL event for it |
| 19:55.06 | Antiarc | So we just completely destroy mirror matches |
| 19:55.07 | NeoTron | so I don't think you can currently |
| 19:55.09 | VonhintenHOME` | intermixed FoK for interrupts.. lockdown |
| 19:55.16 | Antiarc | I get -30% damage while stunned or feared |
| 19:55.29 | Antiarc | Combined with an extra snare break, and blade flurry. |
| 19:55.33 | Antiarc | It's fantastic. |
| 19:55.41 | Gnarfoz | NeoTron: post? I missed something |
| 19:55.55 | NeoTron | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/16904260894-make-yoggsaron-clouds-register-in-combat-log.html |
| 19:56.05 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 19:56.09 | jnwhiteh | you always make me want to go back to my rogue, Antiarc =) |
| 19:56.13 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r278 / (2 files in 1 directory): blacklist update |
| 19:56.25 | Antiarc | I've been playing the class for launch, and have a deep affection for it. |
| 19:56.32 | NeoTron | I'd like that too since I can see clouds being, by far, the hardest thing to get past |
| 19:56.36 | jnwhiteh | I _wanted_ to play a Druid |
| 19:56.36 | Antiarc | It has its problems, but I don't think I'll ever stop playing my rogue. |
| 19:56.40 | jnwhiteh | but my partner picked a druid |
| 19:56.41 | jnwhiteh | so I went Rogue |
| 19:56.47 | jnwhiteh | then he quit at 35 |
| 19:56.48 | jnwhiteh | *growl* |
| 19:56.51 | jnwhiteh | and went to mage |
| 19:56.55 | Antiarc | heh |
| 19:56.58 | jnwhiteh | and I keep going back to my druid |
| 19:57.02 | jnwhiteh | I just love healing |
| 19:57.04 | Gnarfoz | I still like my rogue, but I'm too lazy to level it now that I'm a damn spacegoat paladin :P |
| 19:57.05 | VonhintenHOME` | I stuck with my rogue through Naxx.. got BiS, and was rewarded with more damage with 3.1.. was a good deal :) |
| 19:57.08 | NeoTron | Antiarc: I've played druid, paladin, priest, shaman, warlock, hunter and death knight from launch and ... err. never mind |
| 19:57.10 | jnwhiteh | but being able to kill is lots of fun |
| 19:57.24 | Antiarc | I leveled my paladin, and he's my favorite next to my rogue |
| 19:57.33 | Antiarc | Ret is stupid burst, even in crap gear, and paladin healers are nutty |
| 19:57.36 | NeoTron | but I leveled a druid in beta to 60 before druids got their talent tree (or any of the changes to feral that made it not suck) :) |
| 19:57.42 | Antiarc | Healing on my priest feels tedious after doing it as a paladin |
| 19:57.51 | jnwhiteh | paladins sucked so long ago |
| 19:57.52 | VonhintenHOME` | I have a pally tank/healer, but I really like my arcane Mage |
| 19:57.56 | jnwhiteh | i couldnt' stand it |
| 19:57.58 | NeoTron | dpsing as Ret is kind of fun but pretty braindead easy |
| 19:57.59 | jnwhiteh | so i went priest/druid |
| 19:58.24 | Antiarc | yup. I had my paladin at launch, on a PVP server |
| 19:58.25 | Antiarc | It was terrible |
| 19:58.29 | VonhintenHOME` | I leveled a rogue so I didn't have to play Ret |
| 19:58.31 | Hjalte | ckknight: Cheers, I'll test it out later. |
| 19:58.32 | NeoTron | I had one of each healing capable class at 60 before I leveled my first dps class (warlock, got 60 2 weeks before BC) |
| 19:58.35 | Antiarc | I rolled my rogue 2 weeks later because I wanted to be able to kill stuff |
| 19:58.39 | jnwhiteh | I was a good rogue too :P |
| 19:58.41 | Antiarc | But paladins are a lot different now :) |
| 19:58.49 | VonhintenHOME` | it's still boring |
| 19:58.51 | Hjalte | Sigh, my guild is wiping in P1 of Yogg 25-man :( |
| 19:58.56 | jnwhiteh | so how useless is my s3/s4 arena gear at 80? |
| 19:58.59 | NeoTron | the 3.0 changes made me like paladin vs actively disliking it |
| 19:58.59 | VonhintenHOME` | the only thing more boring to me than Ret is Enh Shammy |
| 19:59.09 | Antiarc | you mean "hunter" |
| 19:59.21 | jnwhiteh | as a druid healer |
| 19:59.22 | NeoTron | Hjalte: see comments above concerning the frustration of cloud blame for phase 1:P |
| 19:59.31 | Antiarc | I leveled my hunter from 18 to 34 while deriving pet threat numbers for Threat-1.0 |
| 19:59.39 | Antiarc | I was very literally tabbed out most of the time |
| 19:59.45 | jnwhiteh | hahah |
| 19:59.57 | NeoTron | I neve really played melee dps until my DK (don't count paladin since it's basically auto-attack, especially before) |
| 20:00.16 | VonhintenHOME` | ret pally was my first toon at launch.. was fun back then, then they nerfed em |
| 20:00.25 | NeoTron | Antiarc: I have a leel 20 shaman. 15 of those levels are primarily from addon development / testing |
| 20:00.30 | NeoTron | she's like 5 days played |
| 20:00.33 | steev | then they nerfed em some more |
| 20:00.45 | VonhintenHOME` | I went back to DAoC after they nerfed em =P |
| 20:00.49 | Antiarc | 204 days played on my rogue. Heh. |
| 20:01.03 | NeoTron | main thing I disliked about ret pally in BC was (when leveling), the high amount of down time to drink |
| 20:01.09 | *** join/#wowace ilovemrdoe (n=ddd@88.104.105.137) |
| 20:01.16 | steev | 7 days 6 hours on my 80 dk :( |
| 20:01.30 | NeoTron | so I leveled as holy which (with my crappy gear) had ~= the same DPS but less downtime and much higher survival rate |
| 20:02.04 | NeoTron | I must admit I loved the (original) profession system in SWG |
| 20:02.10 | steev | me too NeoTron |
| 20:02.13 | NeoTron | where you didn't have to reroll to change role |
| 20:02.22 | Antiarc | That system is what made me quit SWG |
| 20:02.29 | steev | then they were like lol SWG->WoW |
| 20:02.41 | Antiarc | I realized that when I'd reached the point of getting AutoIt to grind micronutrients for me, it was time to quit the game. |
| 20:02.42 | steev | "It's bettar this way! Trust us!" |
| 20:02.43 | NeoTron | it was flawed - especially the brokeness |
| 20:02.56 | Antiarc | Skilling up was so incredibly mind-numbing |
| 20:03.23 | NeoTron | Antiarc: skilling up wasn't the most fun but I actually had a lot of fun holocron-grinding (essentially testing a lot of professions) |
| 20:03.24 | steev | if you're min maxing in swg, you were playing the wrong game |
| 20:03.40 | Antiarc | swg was my first MMO |
| 20:03.49 | NeoTron | and I had a successful doctor business and later architect/artisan |
| 20:03.54 | Antiarc | WoW was a breath of fresh air |
| 20:03.55 | NeoTron | same |
| 20:04.15 | NeoTron | wow originally felt boring to me. it changed of course but it had such a rigid and limited UI etc |
| 20:04.24 | Antiarc | I remember being so impressed by the WoW beta, because things didn't break horribly when I said "what if I do this....?" |
| 20:04.35 | NeoTron | addons is what made wow playable for me in the long run (simple thing like onebag solutions for example) |
| 20:04.51 | Antiarc | addons are the metagame that have kept me in WoW, definitely |
| 20:04.53 | NeoTron | I do wish to see a SWG-like system that's implemented well |
| 20:05.02 | NeoTron | like a more free way to choose your path |
| 20:05.13 | VonhintenHOME` | I love wow, but if a game comes out that is like DAoC was, I'm gone |
| 20:05.16 | Antiarc | deus ex style, perhaps? |
| 20:05.17 | NeoTron | and more detailed, although perhaps not excessively so, crafting system |
| 20:05.18 | VonhintenHOME` | Warhammer failed |
| 20:05.19 | Kaelten | NeoTron: :D |
| 20:05.22 | NeoTron | crafting in SWG was actually meaningful |
| 20:05.38 | Kaelten | I miss crafting in SWG |
| 20:05.41 | NeoTron | again excluding all the shit that was broken.. |
| 20:05.43 | Kaelten | my weaponsmith was awesome |
| 20:05.50 | kenlyric | yeah, I don't have enough full time unpaid jobs |
| 20:06.01 | Kaelten | oh yeah I treated it like a job |
| 20:06.02 | Kaelten | I had a store |
| 20:06.05 | Grum | Zarnivoop: it appears as the bug is still there concerning the clicking on a person and getting data from another while incombat |
| 20:06.08 | kenlyric | you had to, to be the best |
| 20:06.13 | Kaelten | few hundred million credits in stock and resources and cash |
| 20:06.14 | kenlyric | and if you weren't the best nobody wanted your shit |
| 20:06.18 | NeoTron | I had a store or two too |
| 20:06.27 | Kaelten | people loved my guns ;) |
| 20:06.35 | NeoTron | kenlyric: except "best" usually had limited quantities |
| 20:06.45 | NeoTron | Kaelten: I had two accounts for more resource gathering capabilities |
| 20:06.57 | Antiarc | We had the first player city on Eclipse |
| 20:07.04 | Antiarc | And that was AFTER a crit failure on the guild hall |
| 20:07.05 | NeoTron | it was strangely comforting to ride around prospecting for resources :P |
| 20:07.20 | Kaelten | NeoTron: I had stockpiles of the best of every resource I needed |
| 20:07.23 | NeoTron | of course it was almost required to keep track of resource spawns using a third party website |
| 20:07.24 | Antiarc | It sucked to lose two weeks' worth of resources on a single crit failure |
| 20:08.03 | NeoTron | I bought a lot of avian meat I remember since it was a major pain to farm for |
| 20:08.30 | NeoTron | paying millions for people, outpaying every other crafter on the server (Starsider btw) |
| 20:08.44 | Kaelten | I forget my server name now... it's been so long |
| 20:09.04 | NeoTron | Crafting is what kept me in SWG for 2 years. In a way it was the only meaningful sub-game in there |
| 20:09.18 | NeoTron | Addons + raiding is what is keeping me in WoW |
| 20:09.34 | Zarnivoop | Grum: yes, I know |
| 20:09.38 | Grum | making money is also fun for a month orso in wow :D |
| 20:09.40 | Kaelten | I do remember some of my guns being used in a bounty hunter guide |
| 20:09.46 | Fisker- | i just love it when people complain about not being freed from flash freeze |
| 20:09.53 | Fisker- | "Why don't you kill the blocks?" |
| 20:09.53 | Kaelten | (if you're on X server go get one of tenki's Soul Catchers) |
| 20:09.59 | Fisker- | "Why don't you stay out of flash freeze" |
| 20:10.00 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 20:10.04 | NeoTron | Grum: oh I did that in BC from JCing. now I'm down to 24k gold since I haven't even tried to make money post-BC |
| 20:10.25 | Grum | i'm stuck in 6 digits .. not fun anymore then |
| 20:10.35 | Grum | so addons indeed =D |
| 20:10.49 | Grum | and making jokes about fister- |
| 20:11.08 | steev | thinks Kaelten was Beer Von Something |
| 20:11.22 | Kaelten | steev: tenki lee |
| 20:11.27 | *** part/#wowace Movix (n=Movix@mail.schiffmann.fr) |
| 20:11.39 | steev | I was on Wanderhome :( |
| 20:11.45 | steev | i liked the name |
| 20:11.54 | VonhintenHOME` | I don't even know how to make money anymore |
| 20:12.00 | NeoTron | my character was a wookie (first one). now that was a real bummer since you couldn't use armor |
| 20:12.08 | Lukian | Antiarc, hmm not sure if this is a bug, or just an issue, using ClosetGnome (attached to minimap) with SexyMap autohide = difficult. |
| 20:12.11 | Kaelten | that's it I was on Kettemoor |
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| 20:12.31 | Antiarc | minimap button hiding is imperfect due to a number of things |
| 20:12.31 | Grum | VonhintenHOME`: its not that easy atm |
| 20:12.46 | Lukian | Antiarc, possible to customise the hiding timeout? |
| 20:12.49 | Grum | or it used to be easier |
| 20:12.49 | Lukian | might help |
| 20:12.58 | VonhintenHOME` | it did used to be easier |
| 20:13.16 | VonhintenHOME` | I'm slowly going broke on these new repair bills |
| 20:13.59 | VonhintenHOME` | couple people in my guild who only get a chance to play to raid are literally broke... considering buying money |
| 20:14.19 | VonhintenHOME` | which is not something blizzard should be pushing people towards |
| 20:14.34 | Gnarfoz | they should fail less, I guess |
| 20:14.38 | Gnarfoz | or do quests :D |
| 20:14.38 | EvilJohn- | it's getting harder to make money |
| 20:14.39 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 20:14.40 | EvilJohn- | a lot harder |
| 20:14.50 | NeoTron | if you do nothing but raid you WILL run out of money, unless you never wipe |
| 20:14.54 | EvilJohn- | I can't sell my BSing stuff for very much anymore |
| 20:15.03 | NeoTron | even then with consumables you might not do better than break even |
| 20:15.07 | EvilJohn- | my JCer alt, though is doign okay selling red gem cuts |
| 20:15.10 | VonhintenHOME` | inscriptionists seem to be doing just fine atm... |
| 20:15.15 | sb|work | Fisker-: go update your win7 and tell me if it works |
| 20:15.43 | Hirsute | VonhintenHOME`: That is the understatement of the year. |
| 20:16.26 | steev | http://twitpic.com/4m98k |
| 20:17.31 | VonhintenHOME` | wow, is live search really that bad? |
| 20:18.29 | VonhintenHOME` | "i'm going to jump off a bridge", well, here's some directions on bridges. Btw, here's some things you might have done wrong to cause your girlfriend to leave you leading you to jump off a bridge... |
| 20:18.31 | VonhintenHOME` | :) |
| 20:20.35 | Antiarc | http://mosnews.com/weird/2009/05/04/imjusttoobig/ |
| 20:21.07 | Gnarfoz | steev, VonhintenHOME`: obvious photoshop etc :9 |
| 20:23.05 | Fisker- | lol |
| 20:23.07 | Fisker- | we killed hodir |
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| 20:23.12 | Fisker- | with like 10 people left |
| 20:23.16 | Fisker- | and like 30 seconds into enrage |
| 20:24.08 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: auto-promote? :P |
| 20:24.23 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v3.4.0.3 * r279 : Tagging as v3.4.0.3 |
| 20:24.25 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: are you like, playing with 20 people or are you just bad today |
| 20:24.27 | genetik- | only took us 4 attempts to get him down.. overshot enrage by maybe 5 seconds with 22 people in raid |
| 20:24.29 | Fisker- | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-LKGGgxoPAxN4Q1Sx/ <-hehe |
| 20:24.35 | Fisker- | Gnarfoz nah |
| 20:24.39 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: Had it in there, but the client complained that I was performing too many group actions too quickly and refused to invite people |
| 20:24.43 | Fisker- | just having gotten that far in ulduar yet |
| 20:24.47 | Antiarc | So I disabled it until I feel like adding a throttled promote |
| 20:24.48 | jnwhiteh | ah gotcha |
| 20:24.50 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 20:25.03 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: WoL still hasn't got pet support right, right? |
| 20:25.12 | Antiarc | you can use oRA2 to autorpromote in the meantime, if you use it |
| 20:25.24 | Fisker- | It was put in a while ago Gnarfoz |
| 20:25.37 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 20:25.45 | Gnarfoz | too many log parsing websites these days |
| 20:25.52 | Gnarfoz | and each of them has separate issues :p |
| 20:26.08 | Fisker- | i prefer WoL atm |
| 20:26.20 | NeoTron | I must say I'm pretty impressed that SWG is still being so actively developed. But then again, isn't EQ1 still developed too? |
| 20:26.42 | Fisker- | still think it was hilarious we did hodir 30 seconds into enrage though :P |
| 20:27.54 | VonhintenHOME` | Does wow boot you if you try to do too many things too quickly? EPGP has been doing recurring EP bonuses during raid combat and kicking me offline lately |
| 20:28.29 | Hirsute | I believe that you will get disconnected if the server thinks you're flooding, but I don't think I've ever seen that verified anywhere. |
| 20:28.30 | VonhintenHOME` | which really sucks as the raid leader, with an authenticator |
| 20:28.40 | Dashkal | Blizzcon dates: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/25/16904204064-blizzcon-2009-announced.html |
| 20:29.04 | vrak | Hirsute: try spinning your character very, very fast with the mouse |
| 20:29.13 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 20:29.20 | Gnarfoz | that still works? |
| 20:29.30 | Hirsute | vrak: Causes a d/c? |
| 20:29.37 | Gnarfoz | used to, at least |
| 20:29.41 | Hirsute | Heh |
| 20:29.43 | vrak | Hirsute: used to kick ya straight to login-screen |
| 20:29.55 | Gnarfoz | Dashkal: uhm that's from 2+ months ago |
| 20:30.05 | vrak | dunno if it's still like that, haven't tried for a while |
| 20:30.24 | Hirsute | Dalaran has been causing me d/c problems of late, just since the last little patch, but I don't generally have too many problems otherwise. |
| 20:30.36 | winkiller | Gnarfoz: spinning for howl ong? |
| 20:30.50 | winkiller | never managed to get anything besides a little dizzy feeling 8) |
| 20:30.53 | Antiarc | Jumping in place too much will DC to |
| 20:30.54 | Antiarc | you* |
| 20:31.04 | Antiarc | I've done it more than once while waiting on an arena match to start :( |
| 20:31.05 | Gnarfoz | winkiller: 2-3 seconds or so |
| 20:31.13 | Gnarfoz | you just had to do it fast enough |
| 20:31.16 | VonhintenHOME` | anti-keep alive? |
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| 20:31.38 | winkiller | maybe my mouse is too slow then |
| 20:31.38 | Antiarc | I'm talking like 15 sec of continuous jumping |
| 20:31.46 | Antiarc | That seems like an extremely short anti-keepalive |
| 20:31.56 | VonhintenHOME` | wierd |
| 20:34.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r5446 / (4 files in 3 directories): ruRU update |
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| 20:34.51 | vrak | hmm, they seem to have removed the spinning character d/c |
| 20:40.48 | Primer | can't Prat copy a line from the combat log? |
| 20:40.58 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: so, WoL still shows hunters FD'ing as deaths? heh |
| 20:41.12 | Fisker- | time for mimiron :3 |
| 20:41.13 | VonhintenHOME` | internal auction error... sigh |
| 20:41.20 | Fisker- | dunno Gnarfoz :P |
| 20:41.22 | Fisker- | go look |
| 20:41.26 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: mimiron is so... well. 'fun' :D |
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| 20:41.39 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: you go look. :p it's in your report ;) |
| 20:42.10 | Fisker- | :O |
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| 20:42.45 | NeoTron | so is Warhammer Online any good at all, out of curiosity? |
| 20:42.49 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 20:42.50 | sylvanaar | Primer you can copy some lines then pick the one you want |
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| 20:43.04 | nicoli_s | its not the best thing in the world, but i had alot of fun with it when i played it |
| 20:43.10 | kadrahil | is war's pvp faction based? or what |
| 20:43.21 | nicoli_s | yah, destruction vs order |
| 20:43.22 | kadrahil | or is it ffa |
| 20:43.26 | kadrahil | ah |
| 20:43.34 | kadrahil | yeah that rings a bell |
| 20:43.34 | nicoli_s | the scenarios are so much quick fun |
| 20:43.42 | nicoli_s | really arcadey action |
| 20:43.48 | NeoTron | does it have good end game content? |
| 20:43.48 | kadrahil | neat |
| 20:44.01 | NeoTron | I guess if you're not too much into PvP it might not be so good :P |
| 20:44.03 | VonhintenHOME` | warhammer was a huge let down as an old daoc player |
| 20:44.16 | kadrahil | :/ |
| 20:44.40 | nicoli_s | neotron, thats debatable about the end game |
| 20:44.50 | kadrahil | i'm wondering how early they shove you into the pvp action |
| 20:44.58 | nicoli_s | you can pvp as soon as you start |
| 20:44.59 | NeoTron | I really just want a good quality scifi mmo (preferably with space flight - especially if it allows manual ground->space type travel) |
| 20:45.01 | kadrahil | since wow is as early as the teens if you go to stonetalon |
| 20:45.03 | kadrahil | ah |
| 20:45.09 | nicoli_s | pvp areas raise your level |
| 20:45.14 | kadrahil | gotcha |
| 20:45.40 | kadrahil | do any of the class types seem to have a particular landslide advantage over the others? |
| 20:45.40 | nicoli_s | and the public quests are awesome the first few times you do em |
| 20:45.58 | nicoli_s | not that i know of, but theres something like 20 classes |
| 20:46.05 | VonhintenHOME` | the ranged casters were extremely potent with healers behind them |
| 20:46.08 | kadrahil | O.o |
| 20:46.14 | VonhintenHOME` | the sorc, bright wizard |
| 20:46.41 | VonhintenHOME` | they hurt themselves when fully charged up, but if they were kept healed, nasty damage dealers |
| 20:46.57 | kadrahil | interesting |
| 20:47.08 | nicoli_s | its definitely worth a trial |
| 20:47.09 | NeoTron | I wonder what Blizzard's mmo-in-working is |
| 20:47.10 | kadrahil | do the healers have much in the way of self defense? |
| 20:47.19 | kadrahil | yeah i've been considering it for a change of scenery |
| 20:47.24 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, healers were almost too durable, last I played |
| 20:47.25 | NeoTron | only thing I've heart is something similar to Firefly - scifi western type thing |
| 20:47.32 | kadrahil | heh |
| 20:47.41 | Chompers | x3 + freelancer + online then NeoTron? |
| 20:47.43 | VonhintenHOME` | The tanks can split the damage of someone by 50% |
| 20:47.56 | VonhintenHOME` | so, a healer with that on, with strong heals = unkillable... |
| 20:48.05 | VonhintenHOME` | but, I haven't played in months, so, that may have been tweaked |
| 20:48.27 | kadrahil | is the UI fairly intuitive compared to wow's? |
| 20:48.29 | NeoTron | Chompers: those are scifiish but not very western? |
| 20:48.39 | Chompers | oh |
| 20:48.49 | Chompers | then no, they're not |
| 20:48.52 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, the UI was decent, and lua based addons were supported |
| 20:49.01 | NeoTron | think Firefly (or if you didn't watch the series - Serenity) |
| 20:49.04 | Primer | sylvanaar: I'm in the combat log now and I see now option to "copy some lines" |
| 20:49.05 | Fisker- | Freelancer <3 |
| 20:49.10 | NeoTron | new IP regardless |
| 20:49.17 | Primer | I'm in the "Self" tab |
| 20:49.19 | NeoTron | Clearly their new MMO is Elite 4! |
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| 20:49.26 | kadrahil | o.o |
| 20:49.51 | Primer | sylvanaar: I see _no_ option, that is |
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| 20:52.43 | sylvanaar | no button? |
| 20:53.04 | sylvanaar | there wont be one to copy a single line |
| 20:53.12 | sylvanaar | just press the copychat icon |
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| 20:54.06 | Primer | looks for said button |
| 20:54.16 | NeoTron | speaking of new MMO's are there any new known MMO's on the horizon that could turn out good? I guess there's the KOTOR-mMO |
| 20:54.23 | nicoli_s | aion |
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| 20:54.55 | Primer | bah, gotta restart X |
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| 20:56.21 | NeoTron | is that a western MMO or asian? Like Lineage 1/2 were rather grind based no? |
| 20:56.36 | Grum | NeoTron: WoW! |
| 20:57.11 | NeoTron | Grum: I'd disagree that WoW is on the horizon.. :-P |
| 20:57.17 | nicoli_s | aion is korean, check out aionsource.com for more info |
| 20:58.34 | NeoTron | mainly I am honestly getting a bit tired of WoW. or perhaps more accurately, tired of only playing wow :P |
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| 20:59.03 | Pneumatus | join the cool kids playing EVE then |
| 20:59.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik|Ghost] by ChanServ |
| 20:59.21 | Grum | NeoTron: play more with yourself! |
| 20:59.24 | Grum | use the other hand |
| 20:59.43 | NeoTron | Pneumatus: heh no thanks. I trialed that quite a while ago and didn't find it remotely interesting |
| 20:59.43 | AckisWork | NeoTron: do what I do, play with yourself and wow |
| 20:59.46 | AckisWork | bah fuck you grum |
| 21:00.01 | Grum | me > suackis! |
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| 21:13.27 | Cairenn | blizzcon tickets on sale 16 May: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23269 |
| 21:15.14 | Hjalte | I'm getting a download failed when trying to update BigWigs to r5446-nolib |
| 21:17.12 | Pneumatus | @ping |
| 21:17.12 | Repo | pong |
| 21:24.53 | Repo | 10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 07master * v2.0.3-12-g2d546cc / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 21:24.56 | Repo | 2d546cc: Update changelog. |
| 21:24.59 | Repo | 0e39291: Removed the option to hide the Ticket frame. I don't know why I added it in the first place... |
| 21:26.46 | EthanCentaurai | ckk: may I tag? |
| 21:26.55 | ckknight | oh, yea, sure |
| 21:26.58 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
| 21:27.03 | EthanCentaurai | tags |
| 21:27.28 | Repo | 10chinchilla: 03ethancentaurai 04v2.0.4 * dbd9904 /: [new tag] Tagging as v2.0.4 |
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| 21:28.08 | AckisWork | Bibi: you're famous!!!! http://www.wowinsider.com/2009/05/05/15-minutes-of-fame-boubouille-proves-an-mmo-champion/ |
| 21:29.03 | ckknight | I wish python had closures:( |
| 21:30.28 | thul | i miss my dk when lvling my rogue, all that eat-downtime |
| 21:31.03 | Pneumatus | yogg down, finally :< |
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| 21:33.14 | Bibi | AckisWork: you do realize that MMO-Champ is three times bigger than WoWInsider right? :p |
| 21:34.06 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but wowinsider's ego is bigger. :P |
| 21:34.22 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1772 RecipeDB/ARL-Leatherwork.lua: Fix ticket 524 |
| 21:34.34 | AckisWork | Bibi: I know :D and only 3x bigger? =/ |
| 21:34.56 | Bibi | well WoWInsider is fairly popular |
| 21:35.01 | Bibi | it's the 2nd WoW news site basically |
| 21:35.17 | Repo | 10ora3: 03StingerSoft * r164 locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
| 21:36.07 | AckisWork | hmmm I still need the epic shirt from gladiators TCG |
| 21:36.10 | AckisWork | anyone have one? |
| 21:36.39 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): prevent a rare error on login |
| 21:37.21 | VonhintenHOME` | what the hell was the reasoning behind gutting the Frost Lotus drop rate |
| 21:37.40 | AckisWork | you could do a news post that Ackis is looking for the Epic Shirt AND a guild to get him raiding achievements! :P |
| 21:38.01 | AckisWork | is hte ptr on 3.2? |
| 21:38.12 | NightHawkTheSane | 3.1.2 |
| 21:38.34 | AckisWork | ahh pity |
| 21:38.40 | AckisWork | I want to see more argent tourney |
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| 21:38.50 | AckisWork | i wonder what happens when i become champion of all 5 |
| 21:39.10 | steev | Feat of Strength: Argent No Life |
| 21:39.21 | AckisWork | roflz :P |
| 21:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | I've heard you get the Crusader title, actually, but that's just a rumor |
| 21:39.55 | AckisWork | you do but is there anything after that |
| 21:40.02 | AckisWork | ie: can I do the champion dailies etc |
| 21:40.59 | AckisWork | for the crusader title you need to be exalted with the argent crusade + the 5 home factions also |
| 21:40.59 | NightHawkTheSane | you can always do the champion dailies |
| 21:41.13 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, hey, there it is.. http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2816 |
| 21:41.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i should look that shit up more often |
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| 21:41.42 | NightHawkTheSane | but, yeah, you can do the champion dailies, presumably you stop being able to do the valient dailies, but meh |
| 21:41.47 | AckisWork | yes but can I do the dailies to get http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2765 again for example... that's 4 more dailies |
| 21:41.50 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r16 / (22 files in 5 directories): |
| 21:41.53 | Repo | Another attempt to squish the "Cross OS Login Failure" bug: http://www.wowace.com/projects/skg_web/tickets/4-cross-os-login-failure/ |
| 21:41.54 | AckisWork | yah the valiant dailies is what I meant |
| 21:41.57 | Repo | * Everything is either defaulted, forced or converted to UTF-8 character encoding. |
| 21:41.59 | Repo | Minor cosmetic work on the site display. |
| 21:42.09 | AckisWork | @project curse-profiler |
| 21:42.16 | Repo | AckisWork: More than one project was returned. Try supplying a game. Possible games: WAR, RoM. |
| 21:42.18 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v1.2.0 * r15 : Tagging as v1.2.0 |
| 21:42.25 | AckisWork | @project curse-profiler02.0 |
| 21:42.27 | Repo | AckisWork: No project found that matches 'curse-profiler02.0' |
| 21:42.31 | AckisWork | @project curse-profiler-2.0 |
| 21:42.32 | Repo | AckisWork: No project found that matches 'curse-profiler-2.0' |
| 21:42.35 | AckisWork | sadfokjsdafhsdaflkjhdasflk |
| 21:42.48 | nicoli_s | @project curse-profiler 2.0 |
| 21:42.48 | steev | @project curse-profiler-2 |
| 21:42.48 | Repo | nicoli_s: More than one project was returned. Try supplying a game. Possible games: WAR, RoM. |
| 21:42.50 | Repo | steev: http://wow.curseforge.com/projects/curse-profiler-2/. CurseProfiler 2.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author), Adamar (Author). Updated: 20 days ago. Tickets: 7/15 |
| 21:42.57 | steev | IWIN |
| 21:43.04 | AckisWork | I hate you |
| 21:43.15 | nicoli_s | well, i wrote the rom and part of the war one, cauing this problem, so i win |
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| 21:43.24 | NightHawkTheSane | AckisWork: er, you lost me. Once you become champion of your home city, the 4 champion dailies open up, you can go on to do the valient dailies to become champion for each of the other 4 cities in turn, once you're champion with all 5.. presumably you stop being able to do the valient dailies |
| 21:43.43 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Antiarc] by ChanServ |
| 21:44.00 | AckisWork | yah NightHawkTheSane that's what I'm wondering about... 2 of the valiant dailies are duplicates of the champions so that's a free 26g a day and 500 rep |
| 21:44.14 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 21:44.30 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i'm guessing since those go away you'll lose that |
| 21:44.51 | AckisWork | yah =/ |
| 21:45.50 | NightHawkTheSane | kind of a shame, but not a real big deal. I'm at least already exalted with all 5 faction cities, and will probably be exalted with sunreavers before long. |
| 21:45.58 | AckisWork | ckknight: when did the curse profiler for wow become ARR? |
| 21:46.07 | AckisWork | NightHawkTheSane: I'm worried about the 26g loss |
| 21:46.18 | ckknight | AckisWork: ARR? |
| 21:46.25 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* gold isn't really an issue, at least not for me |
| 21:46.28 | AckisWork | all rights reserved |
| 21:46.38 | ckknight | AckisWork: *shrug* lemme check |
| 21:47.12 | ckknight | dunno |
| 21:47.31 | AckisWork | eh am I allowed to ninja code from it for ARL? |
| 21:47.39 | nicoli_s | ARR? |
| 21:48.06 | Repo | 10liblevelguess-1-0: 03Vana * r3 / (2 files in 1 directory): o updated spell data/toc |
| 21:48.21 | AckisWork | ARR == All Rights Reserved license |
| 21:48.29 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 21:50.32 | Repo | 10liblevelguess-1-0: 03Vana 04v0.1 * r4 : Tagging as v0.1 |
| 21:51.02 | trh | ARR would be the best license for MonkeyPirate ;) |
| 21:53.32 | steev | http://www.tshirthell.com/miscpages/nsn/newshirt_050409_nsn.htm |
| 21:53.40 | steev | holyshit those shirts are *awesome* |
| 21:54.49 | Pneumatus | hah, killed yogg then wiped on sarth+3 |
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| 21:58.25 | trh | steev: i like the 'there's a asshole looking at me' |
| 21:59.58 | vhaarr | does anyone know if I can use png as textures in wow, or does it have to be tga? |
| 22:00.13 | Pneumatus | tga or blp i think |
| 22:00.13 | jnwhiteh | has to be tga or blp |
| 22:00.17 | vhaarr | thanks |
| 22:01.33 | vhaarr | gimp has an option called "Origin" for saving TGA, I can chose either "Bottom left" or "Top left", does it matter? |
| 22:01.38 | steev | trh: still looking at me |
| 22:01.39 | Fisker- | Ackis |
| 22:01.43 | Fisker- | you're the reason we can't have nice things |
| 22:01.51 | AckisWork | hmm will this code correctly output the lines of a tooltip from a vendor? |
| 22:02.25 | Primer | sylvanaar: Is there a Prat debug call that can accept a string or a variable, and "print" accordingly? I know, I ask the stupidest questions |
| 22:03.21 | AckisWork | http://paste.wowace.com/589/ |
| 22:03.26 | AckisWork | wow I didnot paste that |
| 22:03.27 | AckisWork | dur |
| 22:04.20 | Repo | 10surgeon-general: 03Brimmstone * r64 SurgeonGeneral.lua: More tooltip stuff (for DC'd people) |
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| 22:05.16 | Axodious | so anyone heard about playxpert? new gaming utility in the works to rival xfire |
| 22:05.22 | Pneumatus | Primer: maybe check out DevTools or Spew |
| 22:05.31 | Pneumatus | for dumping variables/expressions etc |
| 22:06.20 | Primer | Pneumatus: well, Prat's debug seems to work well for what I mostly need, which is to dump tables |
| 22:06.52 | Primer | I just don't want to have to check the arguments for a string literal vs. a variable |
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| 22:07.01 | Primer | especially since I don't know how to do that :) |
| 22:08.42 | Primer | Is there a typeof operator? |
| 22:08.47 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty * r17 / (4 files in 4 directories): Added better versioning / upgrading control. |
| 22:09.31 | Repo | 10skg_web: 03Jabouty 041.8.0-beta * r18 : Tagging as 1.8.0-beta |
| 22:10.04 | trh | Primer: type(variable) |
| 22:10.12 | Primer | thanks |
| 22:10.20 | trh | Primer: returns "number", "table" or "string" iirc ;) |
| 22:10.57 | Primer | ahh, answered my next question! thanks again |
| 22:11.14 | trh | Primer: oh.. also "function" or "boolean" i guess |
| 22:11.15 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla and anyone else who can read this language: http://www.sommr.de/ ;D |
| 22:11.43 | Stanzilla | omg bullshit :( |
| 22:11.55 | Primer | trh: I just need to check for string, then pass anything that's not a string to Prat's PrintLiteral |
| 22:12.03 | Stanzilla | Vielen Dank. Ihr Wunsch 10,3°C wurde gespeichert |
| 22:12.08 | Primer | Was? |
| 22:12.12 | trh | Gnarfoz: omg.. how useless ;) |
| 22:12.25 | Gnarfoz | trh: absolutely. pure satire :D |
| 22:13.18 | trh | Gnarfoz: hehe.. i like the why is it web 2.0 site ;) |
| 22:13.57 | Gnarfoz | yep, nice list |
| 22:14.58 | Kuja^ | haha, nice |
| 22:16.21 | Primer | Since adding a bunch of debug code in my addon, wrapped with --@debug DEBUG_CODE_HERE --@end-debug@, I've come to a thought: Why not have the option to create a debug release build? |
| 22:16.22 | Fisker- | so Gnarfoz |
| 22:16.26 | Fisker- | wanna merge accounts? |
| 22:16.27 | Fisker- | oh wait |
| 22:16.28 | Fisker- | we can't |
| 22:16.28 | Repo | 10arl: 03Ackis * r1773 ARLDatamine.lua: Minor updates to vendor scanning code. |
| 22:16.29 | Fisker- | hoho |
| 22:16.29 | Primer | ckknight: or have you thought of this already? |
| 22:16.39 | Gnarfoz | Fisker-: indeed, I'd be all over you(rs) |
| 22:16.53 | Primer | Or is this a silly idea? |
| 22:17.05 | ckknight | Primer: imo, if you want to do that, just have a boolean |
| 22:17.15 | Primer | ckknight: you lost me |
| 22:17.23 | ckknight | if DEBUG then blah() end |
| 22:17.34 | Primer | I mean, the packager strips all things inside --@debug@, right? |
| 22:17.54 | Primer | ckknight: but that's extra CPU cycles that are unnecessary in a release |
| 22:18.15 | ckknight | true, but I switched to that with PitBull4 |
| 22:18.24 | ckknight | far easier to test with debug mode off when in dev mode |
| 22:18.26 | ckknight | and such |
| 22:18.35 | ckknight | shrugs |
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| 22:18.57 | Primer | ckknight: what I meant was have the packager build a release that does NOT strip the debug code. Perhaps on demand |
| 22:19.07 | ckknight | how would you tell it? |
| 22:19.15 | Primer | with a tag? |
| 22:19.18 | Primer | I dunno |
| 22:19.25 | Primer | I guess it's a silly idea |
| 22:19.47 | Primer | In the past I've assembled debug builds for people to test shit |
| 22:19.56 | Primer | and put them on my own web site |
| 22:20.31 | Primer | and told said people to send me Savedvariables/MyAddon.lua |
| 22:23.25 | Primer | It seemed synonymous with compiling a binary with gcc -g and not striping it, which is all debug packages are, afaik |
| 22:24.02 | trh | Primer: it's more like using #ifdefs in c |
| 22:25.26 | Primer | true |
| 22:25.59 | Antiarc | omg, ckknight. Curse iz strippin ur licenses! |
| 22:26.06 | ckknight | trufax |
| 22:26.26 | ckknight | Primer: imo, the use case isn't convincing enough. |
| 22:27.37 | trh | i think the most awesome way would be a log4j like small debug-library, which would be "instantiated" with self as argument and return a object for debugging purposes - and in case of a release just return a stub. and a mighty gui for it with the possibility to set thresholds per registered module etc. :) |
| 22:27.41 | Primer | guess it's just a silly idea then |
| 22:27.45 | Antiarc | 3 the authors have opened themselves up to liability issues. I hope they have insurance. you see they did not include a disclaimer saying they are not responsible for anything that happens to the users computer for using their code. I am surprised the authors did not consult a lawyer before making this move. they left a loophole for any litigious person to drive a tank through. |
| 22:27.51 | Antiarc | looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
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| 22:28.12 | ckknight | o noes, i needz a law-talking-guy! |
| 22:28.16 | Antiarc | I am lolling pretty hardcore right now. |
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| 22:29.31 | Camci | say wat |
| 22:29.38 | Nechckn | That is some serious talk, there, Antiarc. Where did you find that gem? |
| 22:29.44 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=16904294022 |
| 22:29.46 | Primer | ckknight: so you don't selectively debug specific sections of PB4? You just have one debug variable you toggle? |
| 22:29.59 | ckknight | correct |
| 22:30.28 | Primer | writes a sed script to strip all debug code from PB4 |
| 22:30.51 | ckknight | lol |
| 22:30.53 | ckknight | you can if you want |
| 22:31.11 | Primer | Ok, so DevTools and Spew have been mentioned to do debugging, but is there some library that does it...er...better? |
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| 22:32.13 | Primer | For example, I feed it an argument, and it intelligently dumps (or even returns so I can dump/log myself)? |
| 22:32.36 | Primer | returns text representative of the argument depending on its type |
| 22:33.29 | sylvanaar | i was going to make a tab complete for the /dump command |
| 22:33.54 | Primer | but then you realized the futility? |
| 22:34.00 | sylvanaar | no |
| 22:34.03 | Primer | hehe |
| 22:34.06 | Nechckn | Oh.my. How did I ever miss that thread?!? lol, nice. Go, run, ckknight... get thee some legal consultations! crazy stuff. |
| 22:34.23 | ckknight | funny thing is that I have a brother who's a lawyer |
| 22:34.27 | ckknight | but that's very irrelevant |
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| 22:35.00 | Nechckn | One is not enough. With such clever foes on your tail. |
| 22:35.45 | Nechckn | It's just all so sad. No joke. |
| 22:35.45 | Repo | 10flight-hud: 03Barfolomeu * r214 COPYING: Oops, seems I left some trailing text in this. |
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| 22:37.19 | kagaro | hey ackis is collectinator working yet |
| 22:37.35 | kagaro | i keep pulling my hair trying to see what pets im missing |
| 22:39.04 | Camci | ckknight what did you do now? :/ |
| 22:39.23 | ckknight | Camci: I change Cartographer's license from GPL to All Rights Reserved |
| 22:40.08 | Camci | and ppl had problem with that because its not their own addon an all? :p |
| 22:40.55 | Antiarc | Wowmatrix shills have a problem with that because Wowmatrix can't host anything past 2.5.1 or w/e |
| 22:41.12 | Camci | aha |
| 22:41.24 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro * r330 / (2 files in 2 directories): kgPanels: updated license. |
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| 22:42.09 | Camci | Well i dont like wowmatrix, but i dont like curse client either, hopefully something will come that will let you grab addons from both curse and wowi, until them im all manuel updating:p |
| 22:42.20 | Repo | 10kg-panels: 03kagaro 04v1.30 * r331 : Tagging as v1.30 |
| 22:43.21 | trh | sylvanaar: still planning too? |
| 22:45.48 | trh | sylvanaar: (tab for dump |
| 22:47.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5447 Textures/icons (5 files in 1 directory): Add some icons. |
| 22:48.00 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5448 Extras/Proximity.lua: |
| 22:48.03 | Repo | Add mute/unmute and close buttons to the display when it's not locked. |
| 22:48.38 | Primer | Camci: You have a guy named Manuel updating your addons? |
| 22:49.21 | Gnarfoz | Primer: that's outsourcing for you |
| 22:49.22 | Camci | indeed |
| 22:50.11 | Primer | It seems that since Afflicted is now on curse, the only wowi addon I still have in Lightheaded...which I don't even use |
| 22:50.17 | Primer | well, hardly use |
| 22:50.43 | Primer | PitBull 3 still shows up as "unknown" in CC's Unidentified AddOns list |
| 22:51.00 | Camci | back to House, that chick in season 4 is smoking hot |
| 22:51.29 | trh | Camci: isn't it season 5 already? |
| 22:51.39 | Gnarfoz | sure is |
| 22:51.47 | Gnarfoz | close to the end of it, too |
| 22:52.05 | trh | i remember watching that episode today, where *spoils the whole season for camci* ;) |
| 22:52.15 | Primer | bwahahaha |
| 22:52.35 | Camci | trh it is yea but i had to watch it from season 1 :p |
| 22:52.46 | Camci | trh NO! |
| 22:52.50 | Camci | :p |
| 22:52.57 | sylvanaar | trh not really planning, thats the kind of thing i do when i feel compelled |
| 22:53.18 | trh | hehe.. remembers me of a situation where my flatmate asked his GF how the last episode of NCIS (season 2?) was |
| 22:53.26 | trh | she answered "kate died" |
| 22:53.28 | trh | lol =) |
| 22:53.31 | Camci | lol |
| 22:53.35 | Camci | nice :p |
| 22:54.03 | Antiarc | Primer: That means you aren't using Opie |
| 22:54.08 | Antiarc | Which is arguably the best addon ever |
| 22:54.19 | Primer | looks it up |
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| 22:54.25 | Dashkal | Opie is very cool, but for some reason I just can't get used to that style of control. |
| 22:54.29 | Primer | here's one reason I love Linux, btw: |
| 22:54.31 | Primer | [root@daniel ~]# cdrecord -dao -v /home/daniel/7100.0.090421-1700_x64fre_client_en-us_retail_ultimate-grc1culxfrer_en_dvd.iso |
| 22:54.35 | Primer | wait...done |
| 22:54.50 | Dashkal | root@daniel.... ew |
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| 22:55.12 | Primer | no clickety click start, programs, nero (or some other ad-filled program), clickety click more |
| 22:55.25 | Primer | yes, my machine is named after me |
| 22:55.59 | Dashkal | heh, I was picking on the interactive root shell. I'm a devoted k?ubuntu user, though, so feel free to ignore that :p |
| 22:56.06 | Antiarc | I think he was pointing out that you're logged on as root |
| 22:56.26 | Primer | pfft, that's an old habit I'm not breaking |
| 22:56.31 | Primer | fuck sudo |
| 22:56.42 | Primer | I never type a command I'm not sure I want to execute as root |
| 22:56.54 | Antiarc | You could just run Windows >_> |
| 22:57.01 | Primer | I've rm -rf /lib too many times already...I've learned my lesson |
| 22:57.06 | Primer | heh, that's just one shell |
| 22:57.13 | Primer | all my other 15 shells run as my user |
| 22:57.20 | Dashkal | heh< I've done it too many times myself. Exactly why I very very rarely use root interactively |
| 22:57.23 | ckknight_ | # vs. $, Primer |
| 22:57.32 | Primer | yeah yeah |
| 22:57.38 | Primer | <-- not a ubuntu/debian user |
| 22:57.38 | Dashkal | About the only time is when I'm setting up some space on my filesystem for some new toy |
| 22:57.48 | Dashkal | Heh, I got into that habit in my genoo days |
| 22:57.51 | Dashkal | gentoo* |
| 22:57.51 | Primer | Like I said, old habit |
| 22:57.59 | Primer | oh god, gentoo |
| 22:58.04 | Primer | ditched that LONG ago |
| 22:58.08 | Dashkal | Deb got me into it. Got sick of everything being old. Switched to Gentoo... yeah.... Switched to ubuntu |
| 22:58.32 | Dashkal | Actually kubuntu, but I tend to install both gnome and kde for no apparent reason (yay way more HD space than I need) |
| 22:58.33 | Antiarc | I've been on some flavor of Redhat since I started using Linux |
| 22:58.37 | Antiarc | So it's hard for me to move away from it now |
| 22:58.40 | Antiarc | Just way too used to it |
| 22:58.47 | Primer | wait, you used "not old" and ubuntu (a debian based distro) in the same sentence |
| 22:58.51 | Dashkal | I switched from redhat to deb because of apt-get |
| 22:59.13 | Dashkal | Primer: 6 month release cycle vs years between releases. Ubuntu qualifies as not old |
| 22:59.24 | Primer | heh |
| 22:59.26 | trh | apt-get is pure awesomeness.... until you have to create .deb packages... GAH! |
| 22:59.33 | Primer | I'm just feeding the flames of the distro war :) |
| 22:59.37 | Dashkal | trh: oh god agreed. I miss that of gentoo. |
| 22:59.39 | Antiarc | Redhat has yum now, which is very close to apt-get |
| 22:59.51 | Primer | it's had yum for ages |
| 22:59.58 | Dashkal | Antiarc: Yeah, yum was added after I switched. Had that come a little sooner I would probably be using fedora now |
| 23:00.23 | Antiarc | Primer: Sure, but if you dropped redhat for debian because of apt-get, it's a good bet that yum wasn't around then :P |
| 23:00.37 | kagaro | wow did i get like super upload rates today or something |
| 23:00.39 | Primer | I've never used debian |
| 23:00.45 | Dashkal | I'd like ubuntu's release cycle (and binary packages) with gentoo's ease of messing with packages. |
| 23:00.48 | trh | yum = Yet another Unusable Maintainers utility ;) |
| 23:00.48 | kagaro | my dropbox upload a 500m file in like 30 seconds |
| 23:01.04 | Dashkal | Talking messing with ebuilds. use flags can DIAF |
| 23:01.15 | trh | i wish they'd finally integrate dtrace into linux :( |
| 23:02.09 | Primer | Dashkal: except with gentoo you end up with that unmaintainable mess of a distro |
| 23:02.40 | kagaro | oic they dont do the bulk upload, but stage it over time now |
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| 23:03.08 | Dashkal | Primer: And this is why I use Ubuntu :p |
| 23:03.37 | Dashkal | If I could have apt-get combined with the easy of shadowing the ebuilds so I can patch things at need, I'd love it |
| 23:05.19 | Axodious | i use centos, to keep it short, rehl without the licensing costs |
| 23:06.35 | Primer | Dashkal: I did like creating my own ebuilds. It was pretty simple |
| 23:06.42 | Primer | but the whole use flag mess |
| 23:08.20 | Dashkal | yeah, exactly. The goal behind use flags was noble. Cut down the code in your compiled binary to the absolute minimum. It just doesn't work cleanly over the entire OS |
| 23:08.52 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r7 / (7 files in 3 directories): Added a generic output module using LibSink-2.0. |
| 23:08.55 | Repo | Configuration GUI (and all needed libraries) are loaded on demand. |
| 23:08.58 | Repo | Fixed TOC and .pkgmeta. |
| 23:08.59 | Primer | yeah, it basically makes it so that everyone is running a unique distro |
| 23:09.18 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5449 Plugins/Bars2.lua: |
| 23:09.20 | Primer | then revdep-rebuild...oh boy |
| 23:09.21 | Repo | Add Test and Close buttons to the anchors. The Test button spawns a bar from a random spell from your spellbook with a random duration. |
| 23:09.27 | Primer | talk about another mess |
| 23:11.40 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5450 Extras/Proximity.lua: Remove debug stuff. |
| 23:12.41 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r8 Localization.lua: Plugged in project localization. |
| 23:13.15 | Primer | Does anyone know of an addon that tells you what direction another player is? |
| 23:13.23 | Primer | I know the API exists for this |
| 23:13.40 | Primer | but I have yet to see an addon that implements it |
| 23:14.16 | Primer | Imagine you're a healer in a bg and you see a friend going in and out of your range, and you want to stick with him, but don't know which direction he went |
| 23:14.54 | Primer | in and out of your range in his unit frame, that is |
| 23:14.55 | exor674 | pretty sure cartographer waypoints can target a partymate? |
| 23:15.14 | Primer | I thought cart_* was obsolete |
| 23:15.21 | Torhal | They are. |
| 23:15.45 | exor674 | still *work* |
| 23:16.21 | Primer | I'm thinking of a small addon to just pop up a quick arrow |
| 23:17.05 | Primer | hrmm |
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| 23:22.28 | Kaelten | anyone here good at making svg icons? |
| 23:22.48 | Antiarc | I'm okay at making vector icons in illustrator |
| 23:23.12 | Kaelten | Antiarc: we're looking for two simple icons, but I'd rather them somewhat blend in with the tango ones we're using already |
| 23:23.33 | Antiarc | tried out inkscape? |
| 23:23.43 | Kaelten | no |
| 23:23.45 | Antiarc | It's not amazing, but if you need a vector graphic package it's above average |
| 23:23.53 | Kaelten | I don't normally trust myself to make graphics, hehe |
| 23:31.06 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory): - added options to clear exceptions |
| 23:31.09 | Repo | - removed the epic List all spamhammer button, |
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| 23:34.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5451-release * r5451 : Tagging as r5451-release |
| 23:34.45 | Axodious | @describe sell-junk |
| 23:34.47 | Repo | Axodious: http://www.wowace.com/projects/sell-junk/. SellJunk. SellJunk sells all junk to the vendors. This includes all grey items and user specified items, that can be added to list of exceptions. It can either sell these items automatically at each vendor or... |
| 23:35.55 | Axodious | CrazyBenny_ you around? |
| 23:36.06 | Axodious | irc that is of course |
| 23:36.13 | CrazyBenny_ | yeps |
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| 23:37.03 | Axodious | i've got an addon idea similair to sell junk, not sure if it exists already (tried looking a little while ago with no luck)... basicly press a modifier and right click would sell all of x item |
| 23:37.25 | Axodious | so it would sell all the stacks of the item you click |
| 23:38.25 | Axodious | it'd be usefull for leveling profs or for things like prospecting if you dont want to sell the green gems |
| 23:38.45 | Axodious | maybe it can be added as a feature to your addon? |
| 23:39.57 | CrazyBenny_ | well, I definitelly wont add it into selljunk...I like addons to be as simple as possible and you can sorta do it currently anyway, if you add this item as an exception |
| 23:40.27 | Axodious | yeah i didn't really think it would fit into that kind of an addon anyway |
| 23:41.11 | CrazyBenny_ | yeah, well it wouldnt be prolly to hard to write such a mod |
| 23:41.32 | Axodious | it's not extremely useful, but it would be nice for those ocasions |
| 23:41.45 | Axodious | and yeah i can't see it being extremely difficult to make |
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| 23:42.51 | Axodious | hmm, if you don't make it i might give it a try myself, i've been wanting to write an addon just to say i could heh |
| 23:43.16 | CrazyBenny_ | then do it :P |
| 23:44.36 | CrazyBenny_ | so there I checked comments on my mods after like 2 months and poeple are asking every day for more ridiculous features |
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| 23:44.49 | Axodious | lol |
| 23:45.32 | CrazyBenny_ | "Can an option be added to help prevent the embarrasment of using teleport while in group, when you really meant to open a portal?"...no comment |
| 23:45.45 | Axodious | hah |
| 23:46.01 | trh | Axodious: there's a addon to sell automatically all grey items, but i can't remember the name :) |
| 23:46.11 | SunTsu | CrazyBenny_: Better is people mistaking portals for table summonings... |
| 23:46.16 | Axodious | i'm talking about other items, i use minimalist for greys |
| 23:46.42 | Axodious | trh: an example would be leveling tailoring from 1-300, most of the stuff you make you cant ah, and doesnt stack |
| 23:46.42 | CrazyBenny_ | SunTsu: :D |
| 23:46.48 | Axodious | so you have to right click each one |
| 23:46.51 | Primer | trh: I use SellJunk |
| 23:47.08 | SunTsu | "Don't click on it, it is a portal, I'm not summoning a table!" "Oh! You meant that serious" "D'Oh" |
| 23:48.38 | Axodious | imo an addon, if zone = sunreaver's sanctuary | w/e the alliance place is & someone is casting portal /say SONSO IS MAKING A PORTAL BE CAREFUL WG PPL!!!! |
| 23:48.46 | Axodious | so many times ive gone to stonard... |
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| 23:50.29 | Axodious | where is the link to ace framework "welcome to" ? |
| 23:50.31 | Axodious | >_< |
| 23:51.48 | Axodious | aha! |
| 23:53.12 | Antiarc | I like putting up my mole machine |
| 23:55.01 | Primer | ugh, GetPlayerMapPostion needs a partyM or raidN |
| 23:55.08 | NeoTron | Antiarc: fun at Razorscale? :P |
| 23:55.18 | Wobin | NeoTron: hehe =) |
| 23:55.22 | *** join/#wowace iNs|Renew (n=mronlin@adsl017.cnetco.com) |
| 23:55.23 | Antiarc | NeoTron: I've done that too |
| 23:55.24 | Wobin | "ZOMG, FOUR!" |
| 23:56.13 | SunTsu | Wobin: And then having your main tank accidentally click on it? |
| 23:56.43 | Axodious | that happend to me SunTsu |
| 23:56.44 | Axodious | :( |
| 23:56.59 | Axodious | was in a pug kt 25 and like 5 ppl clicked including 2 healers and the kt tank |
| 23:57.28 | Wobin | SunTsu: Granted, when I tank Razorscale, I don't click the machines, just toss D&D between them and the raid... |
| 23:57.41 | SunTsu | Must be great on vent: "Guys, you wouldn't believe where i am right now!" "Oh, I absolutely believe you, I sent you there" |
| 23:58.06 | Axodious | more like "wtf?.... wtf?!" "dude... W T F!?" |
| 23:58.46 | Antiarc | I also enjoy dropping a mole machine on top of mage portals at the end of the raid |
| 23:58.59 | Antiarc | 5 people inevitably end up in BRD, utterly confused |
| 23:59.26 | SunTsu | Antiarc: we had mages putting portals to Darnassus right over the one to Dalaran |
| 23:59.40 | Axodious | another good one is the druid we have that has atiesh |
