| 00:00.12 | taleden | can you not change the repository type? |
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| 00:04.19 | Repo | 10fu-bar_quests-fu: 03Kemayo 04r3.2.1 * r418 : Tagging as r3.2.1 |
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| 00:08.07 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: link to this addon please |
| 00:19.05 | Speeddymon | taleden: no its not my project |
| 00:19.08 | Speeddymon | Arrowmaster: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/bkb/repositories/mainline/ |
| 00:20.17 | taleden | speddymon: what's the project's license? |
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| 00:21.02 | taleden | if it's permissive and the author is vanished, i think your only option is to get wow moderators to turn the project over to you, or post a new project with your modified code |
| 00:21.24 | taleden | s/wow/wowace |
| 00:22.18 | Speeddymon | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.34 | taleden | do you know what the original author's license was? |
| 00:22.45 | Speeddymon | i can check if there is one, it was a cosmosui addon |
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| 00:25.32 | Speeddymon | doesn't look like there is an explicit license |
| 00:25.56 | taleden | then i'm afraid it defaults to basically all rights reserved |
| 00:26.03 | Speeddymon | yea |
| 00:26.07 | vhaarr | yes, but ignore that and assume public domain |
| 00:26.15 | Speeddymon | why vhaar? |
| 00:26.34 | vhaarr | because it's most likely what a vanished author would want you to assume |
| 00:26.47 | Speeddymon | i see |
| 00:26.55 | taleden | so by assuming that, technically speaking that author could resurface and sue you for copyright/whatever violation |
| 00:26.59 | Torhal | I wouldn't approve the project. |
| 00:27.08 | vhaarr | no he can't, not without a warning |
| 00:27.21 | vhaarr | in which case you simply delete your project and live happily ever after |
| 00:27.29 | Speeddymon | yup |
| 00:27.36 | Speeddymon | at any rate |
| 00:27.39 | taleden | if he were distributing himself, sure, but if he's hosting on wowace/curseforge there are slightly deeper pockets |
| 00:27.42 | vhaarr | but, of course, that would never happen, it's a *completely* hypothetical scenario |
| 00:27.44 | taleden | and it's up to them if they want to assume that risk |
| 00:27.50 | taleden | right, it's hypothetical |
| 00:28.06 | Torhal | As file moderators, we won't approve a continuation of an ARR project without the original author's consent. |
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| 00:28.11 | taleden | but a real company -> real money -> real lawyers -> caring about that crap |
| 00:28.11 | Torhal | So basically, roll your own. |
| 00:28.20 | taleden | how complicated is this addon? |
| 00:28.23 | taleden | can you recode it from scratch? |
| 00:28.34 | Speeddymon | it's a replacement for the keybindings interface |
| 00:28.38 | vhaarr | they have to give a cease and desist warning first anyway so it's completely harmless, like I've already said |
| 00:28.40 | taleden | if you don't re-use any literal code from the original(s) you can license it how you like |
| 00:28.42 | Speeddymon | not within my capability |
| 00:28.45 | vhaarr | they can't just sue out of the blue |
| 00:29.10 | taleden | vhaarr: yes, but that distrinction may not matter to the suits, i.e. wowace/curseforge admins |
| 00:29.14 | taleden | they might not want to take that risk anyway |
| 00:29.14 | Speeddymon | at any rate, i'd rather not roll a new project, but rather just do a cloned repository |
| 00:29.33 | Speeddymon | is that within the confines of an ARR project? |
| 00:29.39 | taleden | no |
| 00:29.43 | Speeddymon | >< |
| 00:29.47 | taleden | technically speaking all rights = all rights |
| 00:29.51 | Speeddymon | ok then i guess i just keep it private |
| 00:30.07 | Speeddymon | and tell cc4 to ignore the addon :-P |
| 00:30.12 | Speeddymon | every time i reboot |
| 00:30.12 | taleden | if you distribute it yourself, not via wowace/curseforge, you can take the legal risk |
| 00:30.13 | taleden | which is almost 0 |
| 00:30.17 | Speeddymon | yea |
| 00:30.23 | taleden | but not exactly 0 :) |
| 00:30.34 | vhaarr | it's 0 |
| 00:30.51 | taleden | vhaarr: are you an IP lawyer? |
| 00:31.03 | vhaarr | no, I'm realistic and connected to the earth |
| 00:31.08 | Speeddymon | meh i just wanted to distribute it on curse so i dont have to tell cc4 to ignore it every time i reboot |
| 00:31.09 | taleden | yes, but the law isn't |
| 00:31.22 | taleden | so us mere mortals must assume only almost-0 because there is lots of stupid shit in the law |
| 00:31.30 | taleden | which an actual IP lawyer can find and bludgeon you with |
| 00:31.35 | taleden | or at least make your life very unpleasant |
| 00:31.36 | Arrowmaster | im about to delete that project, if you get permission from the original author and not that asshat that uploaded it or you get somebody else above me to let you have the project then the project can be restored so stuff like download count doesnt get lost |
| 00:32.06 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I tried to find who approved it, no dice. ckk needs to fix the activity logs to be useful :) |
| 00:32.10 | taleden | speeddymon: best bet is to find the original author and get them to grant you an open license |
| 00:32.17 | taleden | 99.9% chance they say "yaeh sure whatever i don't care" if you can find them |
| 00:32.19 | Speeddymon | yea not worth the trouble |
| 00:32.59 | Speeddymon | i have the original author's email but it's such a trivial change that it's not worth it.. if it breaks in the future from some blizz patch, then i'd consider it |
| 00:33.05 | Speeddymon | thx for the input tho guys |
| 00:33.11 | taleden | if you already have his email, why not try? |
| 00:33.12 | Speeddymon | on a side note |
| 00:33.19 | Speeddymon | i do want to get the ignore bug in cc4 fixed.. |
| 00:33.38 | Speeddymon | or more technically speaking the "remember my fucking settings between reboots, dumbass" bug |
| 00:33.40 | Arrowmaster | just email him and ask him to just put it under an open license or public domain |
| 00:33.52 | taleden | better bet is to get him to GPL it |
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| 00:34.00 | taleden | unless the interim uploader didn't change it? |
| 00:34.14 | taleden | because if somebody changed it after the original author, before uploading to wowace, that person can have license muscle too |
| 00:34.21 | Arrowmaster | the interim uploader was completely illegal |
| 00:34.34 | taleden | unless he got permission from the author and we don't know about it |
| 00:34.41 | taleden | in which case it matters what the author said about the license and its terms |
| 00:35.13 | Arrowmaster | from the short 3 line description theres no fucking way in hell this asshat got permission |
| 00:35.29 | taleden | i agree with almost no fucking way |
| 00:35.38 | taleden | but again, mere mortals.. there is always a tiny chance :) |
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| 00:45.35 | Zenom_ | hey ckknight_, Kaelten |
| 00:46.15 | Xtek | Zenom_, what's up? |
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| 00:46.28 | Zenom_ | nada, was just saying hey to em |
| 00:46.33 | Xtek | ah |
| 00:46.42 | Torhal | I feel so left out. |
| 00:46.52 | Zenom_ | Watching all my Jimmy Fallon shows from the last week on Tivo |
| 00:46.55 | Zenom_ | heh |
| 00:47.21 | Zenom_ | I think I am getting old, I don't know any of the bands he has on. |
| 00:47.29 | ckknight_ | Zenom_: howdy |
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| 00:47.59 | Zenom_ | I think use_alter=True was the fix, but I havn't done queries with the model yet. |
| 00:48.03 | Zenom_ | Re: that issue from yesterday. |
| 00:48.10 | Zenom_ | But it did import with that. |
| 00:48.38 | ckknight | okay |
| 00:49.11 | Zenom_ | That's if you cared, lol. |
| 00:55.40 | Xtek | HEY COWWW |
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| 01:48.54 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r317 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
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| 02:05.22 | steev | bleh |
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| 02:11.31 | steev | so... all this info about cataclysm... wth, where's mah fight with Arthas |
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| 02:23.57 | the-golem | hrm |
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| 02:24.10 | the-golem | i did it right >< |
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| 02:39.53 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/whispercolor/. WhisperColor. Borlox (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:39.58 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_acp/. Broker_ACP. fyrye (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 02:40.03 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/joustdoit/. Joust do it!. x87bliss (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 02:46.30 | Repo | 10speakinspell: 03rismisner * r320 data.lua: debugging new features |
| 02:46.33 | Repo | - fixed the data import issues |
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| 02:58.39 | Speeddymon | anyone have the link to the beta client? |
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| 03:08.36 | Speeddymon | nm found it |
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| 04:47.05 | Groktar | http://files.rabidwolf.org/images/warcraft/bosses/freya_down.jpg |
| 04:48.36 | Zyndrome | kinda how it is |
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| 07:05.34 | Shirik | I love it when people write commit messages like "Updated shit" |
| 07:05.41 | Shirik | "Changed file" |
| 07:05.45 | Shirik | "Fixed bug" |
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| 07:05.54 | Shirik | it's very useful |
| 07:06.34 | bluspacecow | ughhhhhh |
| 07:06.36 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110420115&sid=1 |
| 07:06.48 | bluspacecow | yet another site hosting addons without permission :( |
| 07:10.35 | Zyndrome | and another "yes! I setup a domain and everything, I'll be hosting and be famous within seconds! ... huh, what do they mean with 'permission'?" reaction |
| 07:12.36 | bluspacecow | do the words "copyright" mean nothing to these people ? |
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| 07:14.09 | Arrowmaster | Record created on 2009-08-13 22:53:54. |
| 07:14.09 | Arrowmaster | Record expires on 2010-08-13 22:53:54. |
| 07:14.30 | bluspacecow | is that from the whois record ? |
| 07:14.34 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 07:15.26 | Arrowmaster | and according to domaintools.com theres 24 other domains being hosted on that ip so its probably a shared vhost system instead of a VPS |
| 07:16.21 | Arrowmaster | the person actually used dreamhost as the domain registar |
| 07:16.24 | bluspacecow | wonder how long for the armchair lawyers to pull stuff out of their buttcracks on that thread |
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| 07:18.12 | Torhal | The login page is fail. |
| 07:18.25 | Torhal | And his "capped users" is apparently full. |
| 07:19.08 | Arrowmaster | i wish i had a domaintools.com account, it thinks i own 14 domains and id like to know what the other domains are that it thinks i own |
| 07:19.24 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:19.29 | bluspacecow | any on bugmenot.com ? |
| 07:19.47 | Arrowmaster | you have to pay for it |
| 07:20.04 | bluspacecow | oh :( |
| 07:20.11 | Thoraine | Has anyone encountered problems with the new totemtimer..? |
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| 07:20.32 | bluspacecow | the built in one ? |
| 07:20.38 | bluspacecow | or new version of the addon ? |
| 07:20.42 | bluspacecow | please clarify :) |
| 07:20.50 | Thoraine | http://paste.wowace.com/964/ |
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| 07:20.55 | Thoraine | The new one. |
| 07:20.59 | Thoraine | version 10 |
| 07:21.25 | Arrowmaster | wow in another year im going to have to renew my first domain for the first time |
| 07:21.39 | bluspacecow | " TotemTimers, v9.1k" |
| 07:22.54 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:23.33 | bluspacecow | doesn't look like you have version 10 installed ...is there a slash command you can confirm its version in game ? |
| 07:23.34 | Thoraine | Riiight.. |
| 07:23.44 | bluspacecow | say /tt version or something ? |
| 07:23.46 | Torhal | bluspacecow: I'm disappointed in you. |
| 07:23.48 | Thoraine | Nope when i get in game says that error and doesn't load the addon |
| 07:23.56 | bluspacecow | ?? wots up Torhal ? |
| 07:24.10 | Torhal | bluspacecow: I didn't get a wall of text when I read your post about deathmods. |
| 07:24.12 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:24.34 | bluspacecow | World of Warcraft folder\Interface\Addons\TotemTimers\TotemTimers.toc |
| 07:24.42 | bluspacecow | whats the version field in that header file ? |
| 07:24.54 | bluspacecow | Torhal : I can be .....brief when I want to be :) |
| 07:25.35 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 07:25.55 | bluspacecow | ooo i get to smack giant tubs of lard :) |
| 07:26.01 | Torhal | ?!? |
| 07:26.09 | Thoraine | I'd tell you but I just deleted it and downloaded a fresh copy |
| 07:26.18 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=13294 |
| 07:26.21 | Thoraine | I think I might have installed it incrorectly |
| 07:26.28 | Thoraine | Used to having Curse Client do all the work for me. |
| 07:26.42 | bluspacecow | Thoraine : then if you had if you go to the path I gave above the version field should have a 10 in it |
| 07:26.54 | bluspacecow | i say this because youre error report says otherwise |
| 07:27.10 | bluspacecow | "TotemTimers, v9.1k" |
| 07:28.01 | bluspacecow | in the copy of 10 I just downloaded i can't find the text "9.1k" in it anywhere |
| 07:28.55 | Thoraine | Yeah I had to delete the folder and reinstall it manually, seems to be working now. Thanks and sorry fro wasting your time. |
| 07:29.24 | bluspacecow | meh i was bout to log my shammy and test it on my shammy :) |
| 07:30.37 | Thoraine | That would hav been awkward. |
| 07:31.18 | bluspacecow | meh its cool :) |
| 07:31.29 | Repo | 10skillet: 03lilsparky 06lilsparkys-clone * r165 SkilletData.lua: okay, really fixed the all data recipe lists... |
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| 07:33.56 | Repo | 10fu-bar_quests-fu: 03Kemayo 04v3.2.2 * r420 : Tagging as v3.2.2 |
| 07:34.32 | Repo | 10better-quest: 03Kemayo 04r0.9.1 * r171 : Tagging as r0.9.1 |
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| 07:38.20 | Repo | 10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r71 AddonSpamFu.lua: |
| 07:38.23 | Repo | Added TitanPanel[Wintergrasp];LibPendingHeal & a new prefix for Capping |
| 07:38.38 | Groktar | politely tattoos a swastika on Repo's forehead before Fiskering him |
| 07:39.57 | bluspacecow | ???? |
| 07:40.03 | bluspacecow | theres a nice way of tattoing that > |
| 07:40.11 | bluspacecow | news to me :) |
| 07:40.33 | Primer | Is there a conditional for a target being banished? |
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| 07:54.03 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r50beta * r51 : Tagging as r50beta |
| 07:55.03 | Repo | 10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky 04r79release * r80 : Tagging as r79release |
| 07:56.51 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03incith * r40 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:56.54 | Repo | Using LibBabble-Faction for translation of faction names, should support many more languages now. |
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| 08:06.34 | orionshock | morning all |
| 08:06.48 | Groktar | Fiskers orionshock |
| 08:07.13 | orionshock | woah dude, i don't swing that way |
| 08:10.14 | Nechckn | Nothing a good Fiskering won't help. =) |
| 08:10.30 | Groktar | puts the video on youtube |
| 08:10.50 | Nechckn | Once you go Fisker, you never go back?!?! |
| 08:11.32 | orionshock | Groktar: im afraid |
| 08:17.22 | Groktar | :p |
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| 08:42.52 | orionshock | so is there anyway i can somehow acquire this new-ness that is CC4? |
| 08:47.10 | Primer | wow, pulling up latest big brother murders my FPS |
| 08:47.18 | Primer | the summary window |
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| 08:52.05 | Groktar | is curious about the cc4 newness as well |
| 08:52.15 | EthanCentaurai | can someone ban this user please? http://wow.curse.com/user/Profile.aspx?UserID=1874319 |
| 08:52.37 | EthanCentaurai | I lack the awesomeness to do it myself ._. |
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| 08:53.28 | Groktar | what's he up to? |
| 08:53.47 | EthanCentaurai | spamming links to trojans |
| 08:53.56 | Groktar | heh, just found it |
| 08:55.43 | Torhal | EthanCentaurai: Report the comment. I already did. |
| 08:55.48 | orionshock | EthanCentaurai: ping Kaelten or ckknight if they are around. |
| 08:55.54 | Torhal | I figure, the more reports, hopefully the more urgency to nuke his ass. |
| 08:56.01 | Torhal | Kaelten went to bed |
| 08:56.15 | Torhal | I'm unsure if he or ckknight can do anything on Curse-proper. |
| 08:56.21 | Torhal | netcurse2: ^^ |
| 08:56.52 | orionshock | yall see this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110420115&sid=1 deathmods.com ? |
| 08:57.00 | Torhal | Yah |
| 08:57.19 | Groktar | that looks awful |
| 08:57.21 | orionshock | WM round 2 |
| 08:57.58 | Groktar | clicking on the non-premium cc would be easier than unzipping lots of email attachments |
| 08:58.05 | Torhal | WM, Amature Edition |
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| 08:58.19 | orionshock | Groktar: it's not an email attachment |
| 08:58.23 | Torhal | s/Amature/Amateur/ |
| 08:58.56 | Groktar | oh, i see |
| 08:59.02 | orionshock | your emailed a link, when u click on the link it directs you to a single zip file that has all the addons laid out in a neat order for drag and drop replace in the addons folder. |
| 08:59.46 | Torhal | One updates, you re-download a huge fucking file. Yay! |
| 08:59.54 | orionshock | have to admit, it's a nice solution.. but is gonna kill bandwidth |
| 09:00.10 | orionshock | prolly more than Curse does and it's all embedded libs too |
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| 09:00.30 | Torhal | How is that nice? If I have an update to an AddOn, I sure as hell don't want to download a 280MB file |
| 09:01.02 | orionshock | idiots don't look at file size last time i checked |
| 09:04.33 | Torhal | I'm sure it will come as a shock when an update to Broker_Whatever takes 10m to download on 56k :) |
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| 09:17.32 | orionshock | is it me or is wowace forums being bitchy slow? |
| 09:18.07 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny 042.4.2 * r88 : Tagging as 2.4.2 |
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| 09:35.12 | Whitetooth | hmm /run CastSpellByName("Heart Strike") fails but /dump CastSpellByName("Heart Strike") works |
| 09:37.09 | Whitetooth | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:39.31 | TNSe | now what Whitetooth :P |
| 09:39.40 | TNSe | trying to get more functions banned from scripts? :P |
| 09:40.27 | Whitetooth | they are already banned |
| 09:41.04 | Whitetooth | but not with /dump |
| 09:41.29 | TNSe | so you'll end up getting /dump blocked :P |
| 09:42.46 | Whitetooth | I'm sure they'll fix it, prob next week |
| 09:49.52 | Shefki | dump probably is implemented with a securecall() where it shouldn't have one. |
| 09:50.05 | Shefki | TNSe: They won't block dump they'll just fix it. |
| 09:50.36 | nevcairiel | the problem is that dump is simply implemented in blizzard code, which is secure |
| 09:50.45 | nevcairiel | so unless you manage to taint it somehow, it can do wtf you want |
| 09:51.11 | nevcairiel | they just need to taint the execution |
| 09:51.19 | nevcairiel | they even have a function for that |
| 09:51.46 | TNSe | and unitpower is health left? |
| 09:51.56 | Groktar | ... |
| 09:52.02 | TNSe | or rune power |
| 09:52.07 | Groktar | ya |
| 09:52.23 | TNSe | okay.... so basically you can put into all your macros |
| 09:52.32 | TNSe | if "target" is channel/cast mind freeze? |
| 09:52.53 | TNSe | along with rune strike. |
| 09:53.15 | nevcairiel | I would suggest to not do it, or you might get banned for exploiting :P |
| 09:54.05 | TNSe | *sigh* |
| 09:54.36 | TNSe | and what is /dump normally used for like intentionally :P |
| 09:54.56 | nevcairiel | dumping data to the chatframe |
| 09:55.14 | Groktar | pounces nevcairiel |
| 09:55.23 | TNSe | >_< |
| 09:55.31 | Groktar | nevcairiel, giev cc4 beta |
| 09:55.45 | nevcairiel | you dont want it, its itunes in disguise! |
| 09:55.50 | Groktar | gasps |
| 09:55.59 | Groktar | downloads wowmatrix instead |
| 09:56.05 | Groktar | >.> |
| 09:56.19 | nevcairiel | cc4 is still pretty unfinished and buggy |
| 09:56.30 | Groktar | yeah, i figured |
| 09:56.45 | Groktar | otherwise it would be in the topic |
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| 10:11.30 | orionshock | Whitetooth: aparently WIM taints the chatbox.. so it's not a perfect solution. |
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| 10:20.35 | Groktar | i just found the option to install without externals in cc |
| 10:20.41 | Groktar | this is entertaining |
| 10:20.55 | nevcairiel | you're real fast |
| 10:21.08 | Groktar | my mommy says i'm special |
| 10:27.16 | Repo | 10mountaneer: 03Illiai * r2 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 10:27.20 | Repo | initial commit - code doesn't work quite yet, and is very hackish |
| 10:29.01 | Groktar | i guess it does load slightly quicker |
| 10:29.07 | Groktar | not sure if that was worth the effort |
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| 10:43.55 | Groktar | crawls underneath Borlox's porch and dies |
| 10:43.59 | Groktar | decomposes foully |
| 10:45.10 | Borlox | uhh |
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| 10:47.47 | Funkeh` | Borlox, don't worry, you get used to it |
| 10:48.15 | Borlox | I'm not sure that'd be good |
| 10:50.59 | Borlox | Hm... it's still not possible to checkout german amazon cards )-: |
| 10:51.44 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03vangual 07master * v4.0.0-beta3-5-g82bea6e Modules/Totems/Totems.lua: [+1 commit] Proper fix for WorldMap bug (#539) |
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| 11:17.43 | orionshock | anyone know where these new quests in ungoro start? |
| 11:18.34 | VonhintenHOME` | new quests? |
| 11:18.54 | orionshock | for the horde mount |
| 11:19.00 | VonhintenHOME` | oh, dunno |
| 11:20.47 | Fisker | if you don't know where he used to be you're the cancer killing gaming |
| 11:21.13 | Fisker | it's when you get into un'goro at the other guy that usually offers quests there |
| 11:22.18 | orionshock | ~lart Fisker |
| 11:22.18 | purl | hits Fisker with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha |
| 11:23.18 | Groktar | murlocs orionshock |
| 11:26.05 | Groktar | i would guess by the ravasaur trainer |
| 11:26.16 | Groktar | southeast |
| 11:39.38 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps 07guid * r88 : Branch for GUID development |
| 11:40.52 | orionshock | found him |
| 11:41.02 | orionshock | i will say that into quest is ghay |
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| 11:58.16 | orionshock | wondering, i have a metric huge options table with SOCD, would it be any better on cpu or memuseage in general if i took those tables and loadstringed them on demand? |
| 11:58.46 | Borlox | maybe put them in a second addon and LoadAddOn that one |
| 11:58.51 | Borlox | should be far easier to maintain |
| 11:59.22 | orionshock | Borlox: can't really do that atm, as the options table are provided by each module in different files |
| 12:00.23 | Borlox | uh, ok |
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| 12:03.34 | orionshock | ? |
| 12:04.32 | Borlox | it could be better memory wise, if the options are never used |
| 12:04.54 | Borlox | any maybe it loads a bit faster |
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| 12:05.44 | orionshock | ah shit, companion NPC's aparently don't have a cute little method of figuring out the NPCID |
| 12:06.41 | orionshock | nevermind.. |
| 12:08.04 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r272 wotlk.lua: Add in Ravasaur Trainers dailie quests |
| 12:10.59 | Groktar | gazes into Repo's eyes |
| 12:11.03 | Groktar | sighs longingly |
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| 12:21.01 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry * r621 core.lua: Fix the db shutdown process. |
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| 12:22.22 | orionshock | meh that worked, loadstring the table, pass in the Locale tables and self & worked nicely |
| 12:22.53 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock * r273 wotlk.lua: tweak option table generation. |
| 12:26.32 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-3-0: 03xbeeps 07guid * r89 LibHealComm-3.0.lua: |
| 12:26.34 | Repo | Add GUID detection with trace output to facilitate debugging. Try to break it by casting spells in special ways (will print "GUID not found"), and report any findings. It doesn't work when auto self cast is off and using /target or /assist with plain (possibly partial) names to start the spell cast. /target works, if the argument is the name of a grouped person though, and both work if using /target [target=xxx] or /focus [target=xxx] where xxx is a va |
| 12:32.14 | Repo | 10talented: 03jerry 04v2.4.2c-release * r622 : Tagging as v2.4.2c-release |
| 12:36.38 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Nemes * r437 / (3 files in 2 directories): nemes: add PetInfo module |
| 12:37.26 | Repo | 10ice-hud: 03Nemes 041.5.13 * r438 : nemes: add PetInfo module |
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| 12:37.48 | Borlox | I *hate* wlan -.- |
| 12:38.21 | Repo | 10project-4858: 03Nemes * r56 : ignore .buildpath |
| 12:38.34 | nevcairiel | so get a cable |
| 12:40.09 | Borlox | there are 3 floors between my computer and the router... |
| 12:41.13 | nevcairiel | long cable :) |
| 12:41.25 | Borlox | aye |
| 12:41.27 | Borlox | sighs |
| 12:46.56 | Repo | 10ora2: 03danielbarron * r665 / (4 files in 4 directories): - Updated toc for 3.2. |
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| 12:51.32 | Fisker | drama times |
| 12:52.17 | Borlox | why? |
| 12:52.23 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r39 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 12:52.27 | Repo | Possible fix for some "already on friends" weirdness. v2.0.1 |
| 12:53.11 | haste | Borlox: same here |
| 12:53.21 | haste | and we can't use wireless without a AP on every floor :p |
| 12:53.26 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v2.0.1 * r40 : Tagging as v2.0.1 |
| 12:53.47 | haste | we put up quite a lot of cable instead |
| 12:54.41 | Borlox | access points... thats a good idea |
| 12:56.23 | Borlox | winks his former self goodbye |
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| 13:01.56 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 13:01.59 | haste | Fisker: wat |
| 13:02.20 | Fisker | i like saying your name |
| 13:02.31 | haste | :D |
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| 13:12.24 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r41 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 13:12.27 | Repo | Attempt to fix letting follow up whispers through and erroring about too many friends incorrectly. v2.0.2 |
| 13:13.06 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v2.0.2 * r42 : Tagging as v2.0.2 |
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| 14:03.29 | orionshock | grr.. tek you still get 10points off the IQ for LDB on wowace... |
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| 14:26.47 | Gibbonz | i presume atlasloot's dropdowns being broken is due to the LoadAddOn() change/bug? its a bit quirky seeing 'Crafting' with no sub-menu :o |
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| 15:56.21 | sb|work | mh, i don't get it why those new relic/totem/whatever slot items are without any cooldown |
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| 16:30.42 | Vangual | hmm, are there any player-spells that are classified non-interruptable in the new returnvalue? |
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| 16:58.17 | Repo | 10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon * r25 / (4 files in 1 directory): Remove all references to AceConsole-3.0 |
| 16:59.16 | Mikk | erm.. these new item comparison dowinkles |
| 16:59.23 | Mikk | weren't they only supposed to pop up when you hold a modifier key? |
| 17:00.02 | Speeddymon | they only pop up when i hold a modifier |
| 17:00.18 | Mikk | cause if i mouse over items in a trade window |
| 17:00.31 | Mikk | i get the huge stat blurb in the tooltip always |
| 17:00.38 | Speeddymon | hm |
| 17:00.49 | Mikk | er trade window.. sorry.. vendor window |
| 17:02.05 | Mikk | and it's mildly annoying with all the barf in the tooltip |
| 17:02.15 | Speeddymon | i can imagine |
| 17:02.51 | Repo | 10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon 04alpha-2 * r26 : Remove bad tag |
| 17:03.11 | Repo | 10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon 04alpha-2 * r27 : Tagging as alpha-2 |
| 17:03.39 | Mikk | grumbles |
| 17:09.08 | nevcairiel | the stat summarys are always there, afaik. |
| 17:09.20 | nevcairiel | what a modifier controls is the tooltip showing yoru current gear |
| 17:09.46 | Repo | 10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon * r28 Locale/enUS.lua: Fix enUS locale |
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| 17:15.46 | Speeddymon | nevcairiel: can you look at something rly quick on wowace plz? |
| 17:16.01 | Speeddymon | is there a localization tab for http://www.wowace.com/addons/postman ? |
| 17:16.20 | Speeddymon | its not showing up for me and i thought it should show up for everyone.... |
| 17:16.27 | nevcairiel | the addon author didnt enable it for that project |
| 17:16.36 | Speeddymon | >< |
| 17:17.14 | Speeddymon | ok could you go ahead and enable it plz? im porting it to ace3 and the localization system |
| 17:17.58 | nevcairiel | done |
| 17:18.25 | Speeddymon | ty |
| 17:19.18 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r52 / (2 files in 1 directory): updated toc |
| 17:19.21 | Repo | forgot to include .pkgmeta |
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| 17:27.23 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r53 / (4 files in 2 directories): okay, adjusting lib usage (sue me) |
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| 17:35.22 | Repo | - Modified addon to handle the exceptional cases for enchanting scrolls |
| 17:35.25 | Repo | - Tidied up a few comments |
| 17:35.51 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r321 TradeskillInfoUI/TradeskillInfoUI.toc: - Bump version number to v1.5.1 |
| 17:36.46 | Funkeh` | god |
| 17:36.56 | Funkeh` | someone tell blizzard to fix their god dman search function on the forums |
| 17:37.13 | Funkeh` | it works when it wants to only, otherwise it keeps returning no results |
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| 17:39.57 | Tinyboom | it's garbage more or less, which is weird... they can make a game like wow, but not maintain a proper forum ^^ |
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| 17:45.12 | stolenlegacy | how do i hook ChatFrameX:AddMessage()? like, for SendChatMessage, i do "somevar = SendChatMessage; function SendChatMessage(msg, chattype, language, channel) DoSomething(); somevar(msg, chattype, language, channel); end" |
| 17:46.00 | stolenlegacy | but that's not possible for ChatFrameX:AddMessage... how do I replace it with my own function while saving the old function into a variable |
| 17:54.25 | taleden | if i understand what you're asking, you need to use a dot instead of a colon to get a reference to it |
| 18:01.11 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky * r55 .pkgmeta: trying to figure out .pkgmeta functionality... |
| 18:04.27 | Mikk | stolenlegacy: hooking sendchatmessage is somewhat evil |
| 18:04.39 | Mikk | stolenlegacy: you might want to hook something in the chatframe instead? |
| 18:04.41 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 07master * v2.3.1-6-g38eff80 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 18:04.44 | Repo | 38eff80: Better handling of player location in instances |
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| 18:04.57 | stolenlegacy | Mikk: no |
| 18:04.58 | Speeddymon | HookScript() on AddMessage imo |
| 18:05.09 | stolenlegacy | but I already found what I wanted |
| 18:05.12 | stolenlegacy | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
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| 18:05.35 | stolenlegacy | and I hook SendChatMessage because I want my addon to affect every message the user sends while it is turned on |
| 18:05.48 | Speeddymon | ah |
| 18:05.55 | stolenlegacy | if it's turned off i just do "SendChatMessage = somevar" and everything is back to normal |
| 18:06.00 | Xtek | w00 looks like ckknight and I will be making it to the BC dinner after all |
| 18:06.11 | stolenlegacy | Xtek: grats |
| 18:06.33 | stolenlegacy | is jealous. |
| 18:07.09 | Xtek | :D |
| 18:07.15 | stolenlegacy | i'm stuck with reversing my encoding function for now |
| 18:07.36 | stolenlegacy | 100 lines of string.gsub'ing to encode all messages into hexadecimal code - 100 more to decode them again -.- |
| 18:07.55 | Repo | 10gnomishyellowpages: 03lilsparky 04r55beta * r56 : Tagging as r55beta |
| 18:08.39 | Xtek | lol |
| 18:08.50 | Xtek | In .NET it's "blahblahblah".ToString("x") |
| 18:08.51 | Xtek | Done. |
| 18:10.28 | Kemayo | AceDB's default profile is so annoying. |
| 18:10.35 | ckknight | Xtek: tell Cairenn |
| 18:10.50 | Xtek | •›› Unknown command: [TELL] |
| 18:10.52 | Xtek | : ( |
| 18:11.22 | stolenlegacy | what you need to imagine i am doing: |
| 18:11.26 | stolenlegacy | input = string.gsub(input, "J", "4a "); <-- you have that line of code |
| 18:11.30 | stolenlegacy | you select it |
| 18:11.35 | stolenlegacy | drag it to the left side of your screen |
| 18:11.48 | stolenlegacy | then you select the [, "J"] part |
| 18:11.54 | stolenlegacy | and drag it behind the "4a " |
| 18:12.13 | stolenlegacy | input = string.gsub(input, "4a ", "J"); <--- result |
| 18:12.16 | stolenlegacy | and that 118 times |
| 18:13.53 | Repo | 10baggins: 03Zhinjio * r423 Baggins.toc: Baggins : |
| 18:13.55 | Repo | - added LFP to optdeps |
| 18:14.21 | taleden | kemayo: I gave up using defaults for anything in AceDB, it was too error-prone when the default changed and suddenly peoples savedvars were all out of whack because AceDB was only actually storing the differences from the old default |
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| 18:16.58 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.9.0-beta1 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 18:17.01 | Repo | 1f6cdf6: update changelog |
| 18:17.04 | Repo | 14f9da4: add better debug-function |
| 18:17.09 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.9.0-beta1 * 4d74fe8 /: [new tag] tag as v1.9.0-beta1 |
| 18:17.36 | Kemayo | taleden: It works fine for me. It's just annoying from an end-user perspective that every addon defaults to using character-specific saving unless the author thought to change it. |
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| 18:19.04 | profalbert | I forgot when switching form RockDB to AceDB. Now I'm afraid to define "Default" as default again |
| 18:19.06 | Repo | 10silver-dragon: 03Kemayo 04v2.3.2 * 7a0b012 /: [new tag] Tagging v2.3.2 |
| 18:20.11 | Kemayo | Changing it doesn't switch people who had already run the addon. It just means that any new characters they create will be on the "Default" profile. |
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| 18:21.09 | profalbert | Kemayo: ah thanks |
| 18:22.36 | Repo | 10onecore: 03Kaelten 07default, frameupdates * r42 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added tag v1.3.2 for changeset 17fec8166a27 |
| 18:22.39 | Repo | frame updates in the works |
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| 18:23.13 | Repo | frame updates in the works |
| 18:23.59 | Speeddymon | anyone from the ace3 team alive at the moment? |
| 18:24.20 | Speeddymon | mikk? nevcairiel? |
| 18:25.05 | Mikk | is alive |
| 18:25.19 | Speeddymon | cool i got a question |
| 18:25.36 | Torhal | Mikk: DPSGnome! Reveal thyself! |
| 18:26.08 | Speeddymon | i was looking thru the code for aceconfig and aceconsole, and trying to figure out the best way to minimize memory usage while still being able to have a slash command that just opens the blizz options interface |
| 18:26.16 | Speeddymon | in my addon that is |
| 18:26.48 | Speeddymon | there doesn't seem to be a way to do that without using both aceconfig and aceconsole, essentially having aceconsole overwrite the slash commands that aceconfig creates |
| 18:27.51 | the-golem | Speeddymon: you don't need an Aceaddon for that |
| 18:27.59 | Speeddymon | i realize that |
| 18:28.06 | Speeddymon | my addon is ace-based for simplicity |
| 18:28.13 | Speeddymon | it was written in ace2, im porting it to ace3 |
| 18:28.35 | the-golem | and creating a slash to open the window is really simple also |
| 18:29.15 | Mikk | i've been meaning to write a standard command for that |
| 18:29.19 | Mikk | or well ask if people want it |
| 18:29.40 | Mikk | goes something like... "/myaddon" -> launch GUI, display a "Launched <addon> config. do /myaddon help for commandline options." |
| 18:29.54 | Speeddymon | http://paste.curseforge.com/967/ is how an already ported to ace3 addon is setup, but i'd rather do something like http://paste.curseforge.com/968/ |
| 18:30.10 | Mikk | Which adds a check for no arg, "help" (feed it to aceconfigcmd WITHOUT the help), and otherwise just feed to aceconfigcmd |
| 18:30.11 | stolenlegacy | @api string.gsub |
| 18:30.21 | Mikk | because i think it's a damn shame that a lot of addons don't have commandline handlers anymore |
| 18:30.27 | stolenlegacy | !api string.gsub |
| 18:30.27 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'string.gsub' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.gsub |
| 18:30.33 | Mikk | ESPECIALLY when you want to be able to flip a bunch of profiles around with a macro |
| 18:30.40 | Mikk | (i.e. different setups for raiding, arena, whatever) |
| 18:31.09 | Speeddymon | yea exactly |
| 18:31.13 | Mikk | so.. would people appreciate such a handler in aceconfig? |
| 18:31.41 | taleden | if such a handler could accept the same options table that i feed to aceconfigdialog, then sure |
| 18:31.43 | Speeddymon | i would, that way i can remove aceconsole from all of the addons i write code for |
| 18:31.55 | taleden | but i personally didn't bother coding much command line support because i didn't want to repeat all the same settings a second time |
| 18:31.58 | stolenlegacy | lua>print(string.gsub("[Hexadecimal] 6c 6f 6c", "[Hexadecimal] ", "")) |
| 18:31.59 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: [Hexadecimal] 66f 6c, 1 |
| 18:32.02 | the-golem | Speeddymon: if you're only doing a single slash to call the interfaceconfig window, a slash API is not really necessary. If you're doing a wrather large console based config deal, I can see the point of using it |
| 18:32.22 | Mikk | taleden: erm i think you'll find that your existing tables probably work very well when fed straight into aceconfigcmd |
| 18:32.23 | stolenlegacy | expected output is "6c 6f 6c", why is this behaving strangely? |
| 18:32.28 | Mikk | that's kinda the whole point of aceconfig |
| 18:32.31 | Mikk | use the same table anywhere |
| 18:32.35 | taleden | mikk: i'll try it again but as i recall when i first coded it, i was fugly fugly |
| 18:32.37 | taleden | and not worthwhile |
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| 18:33.01 | taleden | er, it was fugly |
| 18:33.13 | the-golem | Speeddymon: http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command |
| 18:33.25 | Speeddymon | the-golem: i know how to create a slash command manually |
| 18:33.28 | Mikk | actually i should just modify AceConfig:RegisterOptionsTable(appName, options, slashcmd) |
| 18:33.32 | stolenlegacy | lua>print(string.gsub("[Hexadecimal] 6c 6f 6c", "%[Hexadecima%l] ", "")) |
| 18:33.32 | lua_bot | stolenlegacy: 6c 6f 6c, 1 |
| 18:33.36 | stolenlegacy | ah, nvm |
| 18:33.46 | the-golem | well okay then |
| 18:33.49 | Mikk | add a fourth boolean to make it behave like i just described if true |
| 18:33.55 | Speeddymon | the whole point of this is to use an aceoptions table to feed into the blizz options, and then use a slash command to open that opeions |
| 18:34.00 | Speeddymon | and yes mikk, that would be perfect |
| 18:35.08 | Speeddymon | the ace3 api docs update whenever the code changes right? |
| 18:35.33 | the-golem | Speeddymon: have you seen this? http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/getting-started/ |
| 18:35.52 | Speeddymon | the-golem: yes |
| 18:35.59 | the-golem | okie dokie |
| 18:36.16 | Speeddymon | im reading all of the docs, like i said i did my homework before asking a question |
| 18:37.14 | the-golem | alrighty |
| 18:37.36 | Mikk | ouch, there's one catch though |
| 18:37.42 | the-golem | I musta missed something then. |
| 18:37.53 | Mikk | how the hell do i get the blizzoptions section name at that point? |
| 18:38.00 | Mikk | it won't even exist |
| 18:39.34 | Mikk | function AceConfig:RegisterOptionsTable(appName, options, slashcmd, defaultAction) |
| 18:39.38 | Mikk | -- @param defaultAction "ACEGUI", "name-of-blizzconfig-section" to pop up UI if no args given, along with a message of using "/myaddon help" to see command-line usage |
| 18:39.42 | Mikk | maybe that works |
| 18:42.28 | nevcairiel | that feels like a total hack, i mean the code to do that yourself is like 4 lines |
| 18:45.21 | Speeddymon | but it requires having aceconsole (for those that want to only use ace stuff and not blizzard provided stuff) which is bloat for such a small desire |
| 18:45.39 | nevcairiel | AceConfig uses AceConsole as well to register the slash command |
| 18:45.46 | Speeddymon | no |
| 18:45.48 | Speeddymon | already checked that |
| 18:46.21 | nevcairiel | function AceConfigCmd:CreateChatCommand(slashcmd, appName) |
| 18:46.33 | nevcairiel | read the function <-< |
| 18:46.33 | Speeddymon | that's not AceConsole-3.0 |
| 18:46.52 | nevcairiel | AceConsole.RegisterChatCommand(self, slashcmd, function(input) .... |
| 18:47.04 | thul | I love you nevcairiel |
| 18:47.25 | nevcairiel | I'm pretty sure no-one can argue with me about the insides of Ace3 |
| 18:47.39 | thul | I can, I'm a law student |
| 18:47.41 | thul | i can argue anything |
| 18:49.09 | Speeddymon | http://paste.curseforge.com/968/ nevcairiel is what im wanting to do |
| 18:49.17 | Speeddymon | that doesnt use aceconfigcmd either |
| 18:49.32 | Speeddymon | it only uses aceconfig and aceconfigdialog functions |
| 18:49.40 | nevcairiel | AceConfig-3.0 uses AceConfigCmd |
| 18:49.45 | nevcairiel | its just a wrapper around Dialog and Cmd |
| 18:49.57 | nevcairiel | read the file, its tops 50 lines |
| 18:49.58 | Speeddymon | it's part of it but i explicitly define my libs, aceconfigcmd isn't included.. |
| 18:50.15 | nevcairiel | It has to be |
| 18:50.19 | nevcairiel | or your slash commands wont work |
| 18:50.27 | nevcairiel | AceConfig-3.0 depends on *all* AceConfig* libs |
| 18:50.29 | Speeddymon | ugh nm |
| 18:55.12 | Speeddymon | ok you are right nevcairiel |
| 18:55.15 | Repo | 10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta9-23-gce0424d / (5 files in 1 directory): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 18:55.18 | Repo | ce0424d: Removed the "purge" SlashCmd - purges are now automatically done when the panel is opened, before list generation. |
| 18:55.21 | Repo | 2c1e7ea: Removed LibBabble-Class-3.0 from embeds.xml and .pkgmeta. Replaced its use with LOCALIZED_CLASS_NAMES_MALE |
| 18:55.24 | Repo | d3798a7: Updated Interface to 30200 |
| 18:55.26 | Speeddymon | thats really suck too |
| 18:55.28 | Repo | ca31bbe: Removed build number check for GetQuestDifficultyColor |
| 18:56.04 | Speeddymon | i dont want aceconsole in my addon since im only using it for such a small thing but i guess it's gotta be in there |
| 18:56.50 | Torhal | Mikk: I've been silently cursing the Ace3 era because the slashcmds have gone to the wayside |
| 18:56.52 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:57.07 | Speeddymon | dont get me wrong |
| 18:57.31 | Speeddymon | i love slash commands.. i prefer them to using the game menu etc cause they will open straight to the addon i want to open config for |
| 18:57.33 | Speeddymon | but |
| 18:57.51 | Speeddymon | i dont think it should be necessary to have the entire aceconsole lib installed just to do that one thing |
| 18:57.51 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2229 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
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| 18:59.57 | Torhal | Speeddymon: Aside from addon:Print(), slashcmds are all AceConsole is used for... |
| 19:00.08 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 19:00.32 | nevcairiel | its not big like AceConsole-2.0 was |
| 19:01.30 | Speeddymon | yea i know, i saw that too, but i guess im just weird and anal, i dont like having a full module to do something simple like that... especially when the same functionality could technically be added directly to the module i am using |
| 19:01.42 | Speeddymon | without affecting the current install base even |
| 19:02.56 | Repo | 10mountaneer: 03Illiai * r4 mountaneer.lua: |
| 19:02.59 | Repo | fixed outstanding problems, just requires idiot-proofing and some prettier output now. Might also clean up the code next. |
| 19:03.06 | Torhal | It's like you're asking how to migrate from Ace2 to Ace3 without using Ace3 |
| 19:03.22 | Speeddymon | lol not quite |
| 19:04.01 | Speeddymon | ive migrated other addons to ace3, i just got to thinking about how inefficient it was to do it the way i have been doing it |
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| 19:04.35 | nevcairiel | options are always inefficient |
| 19:04.52 | Speeddymon | unfortunately |
| 19:04.53 | nevcairiel | as they are tables that lurk around in memory and are usually only ever used once to set the stuff up |
| 19:05.54 | Speeddymon | im not too familiar with how the memory management works, but if you use a function to return an options table instead of just defining the table straight in your code, doesn't that eliminate the part where that options table is stored in memory? |
| 19:06.43 | nevcairiel | its still somewhere in memory |
| 19:06.48 | nevcairiel | it uses slightly less memory |
| 19:07.07 | Speeddymon | ah |
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| 19:11.24 | Cryect | Why should you be worrying about memory usage of your options table unless your options tables are some convoluted complex data structure |
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| 19:19.39 | Repo | 10mailboxplus: 03Speeddymon * r29 / (4 files in 1 directory): Revert removal of AceConsole-3.0 |
| 19:20.07 | Speeddymon | im not worried about the memory usage of the options tables, nevcairiel had brought up a good point about them being inefficient overall tho |
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| 19:38.10 | Repo | 10hexmessage: 03stolenlegacy * r7 HexMessage.lua: Another test commit. |
| 19:38.36 | stolenlegacy | but it updated THIS time |
| 19:49.52 | Repo | 10hexmessage: 03stolenlegacy * r8 HexMessage.lua: Added features: |
| 19:49.55 | Repo | - The ugly white text is gone. HexMessage now integrates into the chat frame, displaying Hexadecimal messages only in normal text. |
| 19:49.59 | Repo | - Due to restrictions with the above features, hex-ing of messages that would reach over 255 characters in the process is no longer possible and results in a error message. This happens if your entered message is above 80 characters in length. |
| 19:50.41 | Repo | 10hexmessage: 03stolenlegacy * r9 HexMessage.lua: Added features: |
| 19:50.44 | Repo | - the error message when using too many characters now also informs of the maximum limit (80 characters). |
| 19:51.03 | Primer | Cryect: Hey, you getting any reports that BigBrother's window causing FPS to dip significantly? |
| 19:51.59 | Primer | because this happened to me last night in 25 man ToC and Ulduar |
| 19:52.52 | Repo | 10hexmessage: 03stolenlegacy * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed a typo in the toc file. |
| 19:58.03 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03texke * r41 RepGain2.toc: |
| 19:58.06 | Repo | Fixed typo in .toc which prevented addon from loading correctly |
| 20:00.19 | Cryect | If you keep the window open yeah you would get performance hits during combat |
| 20:00.39 | Cryect | needs to be changed so if combat is active to throttle the updates |
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| 20:00.51 | Cryect | or hell just change it so it limits the updates period |
| 20:02.29 | Primer | there was no combat though |
| 20:02.37 | Primer | I never pull it up in combat |
| 20:02.51 | Primer | I only ever pull it up before a pull so we can chastise the lazy |
| 20:03.16 | Speeddymon | nevcairiel: the Print() function in Ace3, when used like self:Print() outputs AceEvent-3.0: before what is to be printed, whereas it would put the addon name when said addon was using Ace2.. any ideas what im doing wrong? |
| 20:05.12 | Cryect | hmmm |
| 20:05.22 | Cryect | Will check it out later |
| 20:05.34 | Cryect | have to grab my GF's account since I've allowed mine to lapse |
| 20:05.56 | Primer | Want me to add a ticket? |
| 20:06.09 | Cryect | if you want go ahead |
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| 20:10.25 | Mikk | nevcairiel: of course you can do it yourself, but people aren't doing it |
| 20:10.43 | Mikk | hence why i figured i'd change the stock function in aceconfig |
| 20:11.17 | nevcairiel | You shouldnt change the default behaviour, though. |
| 20:11.45 | Speeddymon | oddly enough, if i put AceConsole-3.0 before AceEvent-3.0 in the NewAddon() call, then I get an error about the RegisterChatCommand() being nil |
| 20:12.10 | nevcairiel | I bet you just fail and forgot the addon name before the libs |
| 20:12.49 | Speeddymon | Postman = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("AceConsole-3.0", "AceEvent-3.0", "AceHook-3.0", "AceTimer-3.0") |
| 20:12.56 | nevcairiel | like i said |
| 20:13.23 | Speeddymon | Postman = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("AceEvent-3.0", "AceConsole-3.0", "AceHook-3.0", "AceTimer-3.0") doesnt fail tho? |
| 20:13.45 | Speeddymon | ohhh damn |
| 20:13.47 | nevcairiel | its still fail |
| 20:13.49 | Speeddymon | i never even noticed that |
| 20:13.54 | Kemayo | Haha. |
| 20:13.59 | Speeddymon | holy hell lol |
| 20:14.35 | Kemayo | The possibly funny bit is that this means someone else had already registered AceConsole-3.0 as an addon name. |
| 20:14.47 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 20:15.12 | Kemayo | Well, I'd assume that it failed because of that? Given that AceEvent-3.0 as the name succeeded? |
| 20:15.27 | nevcairiel | it failed because he directly tried to call :RegisterChatCommand |
| 20:15.35 | nevcairiel | which of course wasnt there, then =) |
| 20:28.00 | Primer | Cryect: http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-brother/tickets/12-performance-issues-when-displaying-the-summary-window/ |
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| 20:29.38 | eblume | Is there an event or handler or metatable something-or-other that will let me know when a table has been modified? |
| 20:30.25 | eblume | I'm trying to decide how best to organize my API and I'm not sure if I want to use a system of methods to wrap around modification of a table, or just expose the table and detect when a change has been made |
| 20:31.13 | nevcairiel | If you want to know about table modifications, you need to use a proxy table through a meta table |
| 20:31.54 | eblume | That sounds complicated |
| 20:31.59 | eblume | http://www.lua.org/pil/13.4.4.html |
| 20:32.05 | eblume | Is that the right URL to read? |
| 20:32.29 | nevcairiel | yeah, that shows the use of a proxy |
| 20:34.10 | eblume | ANd just to make sure I understand, in that example, mt is a "metatable" which is a table that contains two functions, __index (fired on a read) and __newindex (fired on an update/create) |
| 20:34.29 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r209 RaidDebuffs/Grid2StatusRaidDebuffs.lua: -- ToC |
| 20:34.29 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 20:34.56 | nevcairiel | actually __newindex is usually only ever called on create, but since the proxy itself doesnt actually contain data, all updates are creates |
| 20:35.47 | eblume | Ahah, I got it! And the reason for THAT is that attempting to modify the proxy fires the proxy metatable functions, which modifies the non-proxy instead. |
| 20:36.15 | eblume | So you essentially can't ever *really* modify the proxy. It's sort of just sitting there, listening to metatable events. |
| 20:36.37 | nevcairiel | the proxy will always be an empty table, and just forward stuff to the real table |
| 20:36.37 | eblume | Very cool. Ok, yeah, this is the way to go, I think. |
| 20:36.48 | nevcairiel | and giving you the chance to listen to those events |
| 20:37.40 | eblume | Is this pretty common, or am I wading in to the deep end of the pool here? |
| 20:38.18 | nevcairiel | i never used it myself, i would rather use a set of functions to access the table if i need to act on modifications .. but it works fine |
| 20:42.34 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth 04r209 beta * r210 : Tagging as r209 beta |
| 20:44.55 | eblume | Grid2, for real? That's interesting |
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| 20:46.51 | Caleb| | wyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
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| 21:00.20 | Zhinjio | so ... for some reason the "slider" frame I have doesn't show the little drag nub thinger until I click on it. Is there something I have to do to "initialize" its position to make it appear? |
| 21:00.34 | Zhinjio | once I click on the slider bar, it works just fine |
| 21:00.57 | Kemayo | Try calling :SetPosition on it? (I think) |
| 21:01.09 | Zhinjio | ah, thats true. k |
| 21:01.40 | Kemayo | Yeah, I checked a scroller I wrote ages ago, and it just does "instancelist:SetPosition()" in the setup. |
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| 21:02.01 | Kemayo | Oh, wait, that's something else. |
| 21:02.36 | Kemayo | Here it is: slider:SetValue(0) |
| 21:02.57 | Kemayo | So, that is possibly what you need. At least, my slider works fine. |
| 21:03.22 | Zhinjio | yup, works. thanks. |
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| 21:06.41 | dais | Hi. A question on the proper usage of AceHook:HookScript(): |
| 21:07.10 | dais | I am getting a "Attempting to rehook already active hook" error from it. I can think of various ways to handle it, but is there some sort of doco? |
| 21:07.47 | dais | Or something that is common knowledge on how to handle hook chains? |
| 21:08.14 | eblume | dais, I'm new to this whole thing myself, but out of curioisity, in what part of your AddOn are you hooking the function? I believe that it's best practice to do the hook in the OnEnable section. |
| 21:08.33 | eblume | That is, if you're using AceAddon |
| 21:08.34 | dais | I believe it is in there. Let me double check. |
| 21:08.56 | dais | Yup. OnEnable. |
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| 21:09.30 | dais | I am hooking a Blizzard frame, and it looks like someone else already got in before I hook it. |
| 21:09.38 | eblume | Just to be sure, are you calling the Hook function more than once on the same function from the same addon? |
| 21:09.55 | dais | Nope. The error happens to someone else |
| 21:10.08 | eblume | AFAIK, that actually shouldn't be a problem... you can't hook the same thing twice from one hook table, but you can hook it as often as you want from different hook tables. |
| 21:10.19 | eblume | They might not get executed in the order you want, but that shouldn't matter. |
| 21:10.55 | eblume | So, someone with more knowledge about AddOns should probably help you. |
| 21:10.56 | dais | Hm. I probably misread AceHook. One sec. |
| 21:11.43 | eblume | Alternately, pasty up your code and I'll take a looksie |
| 21:11.47 | eblume | paste* |
| 21:11.58 | eblume | Please DONT pasty up your code. That would be gross. |
| 21:12.04 | dais | lol |
| 21:12.56 | dais | You are correct. The line "uid = registry[self][obj] and registry[self][obj][method]" should pick up my hooks. |
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| 21:14.13 | dais | Let me check the addon to see if there is any chance for the hook func being called twice. |
| 21:14.22 | eblume | I find it doubtful that I'm correct since I have no idea what that just meant. |
| 21:15.17 | dais | Haha. That was a piece of code in AceHook. It takes the uid from its table, and checks if it is active. |
| 21:15.30 | dais | Since it usess index [self], it should be my hook only. |
| 21:16.46 | eblume | I'll trust you, then, but I don't think has anything to do with what I was mentioning. As far as I know, the only way you can run in to trouble with AceHook is if you do something like: MyAddon:Hook(...) on the same script twice. |
| 21:17.12 | dais | Yup, that's what referred to when I said "you are correct". :) |
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| 21:17.17 | eblume | Alright, awesome. |
| 21:18.31 | dais | Damn. I am the one causing the error, then. :) |
| 21:18.55 | eblume | Sounds like! |
| 21:19.13 | eblume | Also it might be a secure function? I don't know anything about that stuff, but I'm just throwing that out there. |
| 21:19.33 | eblume | Oh, and there are also big issues with hooking a hook, obviously. |
| 21:19.59 | dais | Probably one of the cases I know nothing about. :) |
| 21:20.33 | eblume | Well, I mean, if you attempt to hook a function and set as the new hook handler as *that same function*, there will obviously be some pretty big consequences |
| 21:21.14 | dais | Hehe. Infinite loop sounds like the consequence. |
| 21:21.40 | eblume | I would assume so. never tried it myself... maybe it'd just execute twice? I honestly don't know. |
| 21:22.30 | eblume | If you want, take a look at my addon "Babel". It uses AceHook as the core of its operation and is very simple |
| 21:22.37 | eblume | about 90 lines, most of it having to do with LiBDataBroker |
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| 21:23.09 | dais | I'll have a look. Any and all examples are welcome. |
| 21:23.12 | eblume | Not sure if it would help, but there you go. |
| 21:23.40 | dais | If you want to have a look, the addon I am trying to fix is TradeskillInfo. There was a reported error. |
| 21:26.28 | eblume | TradeskillInfo? I just happen to be looking for help with tradeskill information gathering |
| 21:27.05 | dais | :-) |
| 21:27.58 | dais | I'd be happy to give a hand, if I can. I tend to do the additional footwork for the addon only, but you never know. :) |
| 21:28.51 | eblume | Aw, looks like it's not quite the same. I'm trying to learn how to 'scrape' profession links to create a database of craftable items listing the players that can craft them (and the mats that item takes) |
| 21:28.59 | eblume | Sounds like a cool addon though! |
| 21:29.25 | eblume | is the hook in question in TradeskillInfo or TradeskillInfoUI? |
| 21:29.26 | dais | Hm. I thought there was something like that |
| 21:29.41 | eblume | There's a few. It's one small part of a larger suite of functionality |
| 21:29.42 | dais | Scans trade channel, looks for links, and remembers names. |
| 21:29.53 | eblume | GYP is a good one that I'm doing a lot of reading of |
| 21:30.16 | eblume | The project's goals are listed at Socialist, if you're curious |
| 21:30.20 | eblume | @describe Socialist |
| 21:30.21 | Repo | eblume: http://www.wowace.com/addons/socialist/. Socialist. Social tracking suite |
| 21:30.40 | dais | There was a library in wowinterface for extracting skill info out of a link. |
| 21:30.57 | eblume | Really now? That I will have to go check out. |
| 21:30.58 | eblume | Anyway, is the hook in question in TradeskillInfo or TradeskillInfoUI? |
| 21:31.00 | dais | Let me see if I can find it. I'll check Socialist too. :) |
| 21:31.14 | eblume | Hahah, no pressure. Thanks! |
| 21:31.16 | Zhinjio | eblume: GuildCraft |
| 21:31.33 | Zhinjio | (can also track out-of-guild player's links) |
| 21:31.33 | eblume | Zhinjio, yup that's another one. It's a popular idea ;-) |
| 21:31.43 | Zhinjio | nods. |
| 21:32.01 | dais | Yup. LibTradeLinks. Guildcraft uses it. |
| 21:33.40 | eblume | Curious, I can't find the library by itself |
| 21:35.21 | dais | possibly http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10316-TradeLinks.html |
| 21:36.08 | dais | Socialist sounds like a good addon. Getting low memory usage on it would probably hurt, though. :) |
| 21:36.25 | eblume | I actually did some stress testing on that and it's a LOT better than you'd think |
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| 21:36.39 | eblume | I ran it for about 5 months, got about... oh I want to say it got to about four thousand entries |
| 21:36.49 | eblume | I think it topped at 6 or 7 megs |
| 21:36.57 | eblume | and I could still search through it in real time. |
| 21:37.20 | dais | Hm, it is pretty good. |
| 21:37.38 | eblume | Anyway, the current release versions were an early stage of development |
| 21:37.46 | eblume | I'll be coming out with a much more feature-rich beta in a few weeks |
| 21:37.58 | dais | I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks. :) |
| 21:38.03 | eblume | Heheh, thank you! |
| 21:38.08 | eblume | Any luck on the hook? |
| 21:38.17 | dais | Does it remember the loot as well? We were talking about it tofay with a friend. |
| 21:38.30 | dais | I need to make it fail, first. |
| 21:38.48 | eblume | dais, that is not a bad idea! |
| 21:39.10 | dais | Or, most likely I'll put in an is it already hooked check, and ask the reporter to test it out. |
| 21:39.18 | eblume | I wanna get everything else working first, but I could definitely see adding that in there |
| 21:40.04 | dais | You'll get another customer in that case. :) |
| 21:40.16 | eblume | the gears are turning :-) |
| 21:40.19 | dais | heheh |
| 21:40.44 | dais | I think there may be an edge case in how the fnction is hooked... I have no idea how I can replicate it here. :) |
| 21:40.52 | eblume | This LibTradeLinks looks great. I'll have to get in touch with the author... I don't like hard-embedding my libraries (IE not via external) |
| 21:41.07 | eblume | Yeah :-( |
| 21:41.50 | dais | It attempts a hook either from OnEnable, or from "AddonLoaded". The theory is that the frame will be nil on OnEnable, and AddonLoaded will hook it, ir it is already loaded, and only OnEnable will hook it. |
| 21:42.07 | dais | It is possible that AddonLoaded will be called before OnEnable... Need to check the Ace code. :( |
| 21:42.29 | eblume | It was my understanding that OnInitialize/OnEnable removed the need to track the "AddonLoaded" event |
| 21:42.37 | dais | Not my addon. |
| 21:42.37 | eblume | but yeah, best to read the API |
| 21:42.41 | eblume | Ah, gotcha :-) |
| 21:42.49 | dais | Tracking the frame I am trying to hook. :) |
| 21:43.14 | dais | Thanks for your help. I'll go get lost in the code for a bit. ^^ |
| 21:43.20 | eblume | Good luick! |
| 21:43.23 | eblume | Luck, too. |
| 21:43.27 | dais | Thanks |
| 21:44.58 | Speeddymon | ok ive almost completed this ace3 port, but i have a small issue i need to rectify before i can commit it |
| 21:47.05 | Speeddymon | essentially, AceDB-2 has the DB setup with addon.db.chars, and AceDB-3 has it setup with addon.db.char .. this addon uses that subtable and I've changed the name, but in order for the upgrade to go smoothly, I need to detect that the db format has changed and wipe it clean one time.. I could use DBObjectLib:ResetDB(defaultProfile) but if I put it in OnInitialize or OnEnable, it'll reset the... |
| 21:47.07 | Speeddymon | ...DB every login/reload |
| 21:47.43 | Torhal | Speeddymon: Rename the SVs, use both the old and new names. If oldSV exists, copy it. |
| 21:47.46 | Torhal | Then nil it out |
| 21:47.53 | Speeddymon | ah nice, thx |
| 21:47.58 | Speeddymon | one thing tho |
| 21:48.08 | Speeddymon | where do i do it? OnInitialize? OnEnable? |
| 21:48.23 | Torhal | The SVs should exist OnInitialize. |
| 21:48.27 | Torhal | You can always test though |
| 21:48.30 | Speeddymon | k |
| 21:55.47 | Speeddymon | something like: ## SavedVariables: PostmanDB, Postman4DB in the TOC and if PostmanDB then PostmanDB = nil end in the code, right? |
| 21:56.54 | Speeddymon | that seems to have worked but i want to be sure that's the cleanest way |
| 22:00.34 | Repo | 10postman: 03Speeddymon * r38 / (13 files in 2 directories): |
| 22:00.37 | Repo | Convert to Ace3, LibAbacus-3.0, the localization system, and UTF-8. |
| 22:00.40 | Repo | SavedVariables will be wiped clean, due to the port to Ace3 |
| 22:00.49 | Torhal | Ace2 DBs won't work in Ace3, so you have to read the old into the new and discard the old. That's the only way to do it, really. |
| 22:01.30 | Torhal | You don't have to wipe if you write code to copy to the new scheme :) |
| 22:01.41 | Speeddymon | there isn't anything direly important in the old db, only one setting that can actually be changed actually, the rest is just delivery and character info for the player's account, which all gets recreated upon login to each character anyways |
| 22:01.53 | Torhal | Aah. |
| 22:02.47 | Speeddymon | but without wiping the sv, it'd just create crap and without using a new name as you suggested, it'll error out because of the format changing, so i did both. :-) |
| 22:02.51 | Speeddymon | thx for the tip |
| 22:03.02 | Torhal | np |
| 22:03.50 | Repo | 10postman: 03Speeddymon 04v4.0 * r39 : Tagging as v4.0 |
| 22:06.30 | Repo | 10instanceloot: 03Kemayo 07master * v5-1-g74d6f3c / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 22:06.33 | Repo | 74d6f3c: Bump ye TOC |
| 22:06.36 | Repo | 29eba74: Color boss list header, too |
| 22:06.55 | Shadowed | cast event ordering is the most fun thing ever when you add lag into them |
| 22:07.23 | Repo | 10instanceloot: 03Kemayo 04v6 * e76e6ca /: [new tag] Tagging v6 |
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| 22:11.26 | Bruners | is wowmatrix still going strong ? |
| 22:12.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 22:16.32 | Repo | 10mountaneer: 03Illiai * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory): * moved mount-data to a separate file for easier updating |
| 22:16.35 | Repo | * fixed Brown Ram (was listed as a fast land mount, should be slow land mount instead) |
| 22:16.38 | Repo | * added a debug mode, settable via lua only at the moment |
| 22:16.41 | Repo | * centralized chat output to go via 2 handlers (chat and debug) so the output can be modified more easily |
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| 22:20.10 | Kemayo | Bruners: It's presumably still being used, since I get occasional donations through it. |
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| 22:29.44 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r322 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:29.47 | Repo | - Commit the correct files for the "Scroll of Enchant" modifications |
| 22:31.18 | Speeddymon | is there an ace3 based replacement for Deformat, RosterLib, SpecialEventsEmbed, TabletLib, or Waterfall? I couldn't find Ace3 replacements for em :-( I know dewdrop doesn't have one which sucks since some of my addons still use it |
| 22:33.30 | Xinhuan | no to all |
| 22:33.37 | Arrowmaster | no becasue they are all useless |
| 22:33.54 | Speeddymon | fail |
| 22:34.10 | Arrowmaster | actually QTip is sorta a Tablet replacement |
| 22:34.26 | Arrowmaster | and waterfall is completely useless since we have AceConfigDialog |
| 22:34.29 | Speeddymon | yea |
| 22:35.00 | Arrowmaster | some of the special events stuff could be useful if somebody wanted to put some work into it but atleast half of them are useless i think |
| 22:35.51 | Arrowmaster | rosterlib is just down right bad especially since we have guids now and everything should be using guids internally instead of names so that makes the main reason for rosterlib useless |
| 22:35.56 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03Dys * r323 TradeskillInfo.lua: - Possible fix for the AceHook error |
| 22:36.39 | Speeddymon | ah |
| 22:36.40 | Repo | 10lil-sparkys-workshop: 03lilsparky * r81 / (2 files in 1 directory): fixed skill up % calculations |
| 22:38.05 | Arrowmaster | and well deformat was mostly useful for the pre 2.4 combat log when the possible patterns to match against was very large, you can replace it by just using gsub to change the formating parts to captures in a string when you are only trying to match one pattern and the list of possible patterns for the specific text you are scanning is also small |
| 22:38.19 | Speeddymon | ok, well it looks like skillet is the only addon i have that uses waterfall, assuming lilsparky's skillet doesn't use that, is there any way to get his version of skillet from curse.com rather than having to use his clone in mainline? |
| 22:38.21 | Arrowmaster | basically replaced by just coding smarter instead of being lazy |
| 22:39.08 | Arrowmaster | also deformat does not handle the pre lua 5.0 formatting stuff that blizzard enabled and has started using a lot |
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| 22:39.53 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("$2%s $1%s", "one", "two") |
| 22:39.53 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: $2one $1two |
| 22:40.09 | Speeddymon | yea thats my problem, i want to continue to use some addons that aren't being updated or at least being ported to ace3, but i don't have the know how to port some, nor the desire to maintain the others, but I want to be rid of ace2 :-/ oh well i suppose i can deal |
| 22:40.11 | Arrowmaster | lua_bot probably doesnt have it enabled |
| 22:40.15 | Arrowmaster | whatever that syntax is |
| 22:40.48 | Arrowmaster | just porting to get rid of a library or framework is really a very bad idea |
| 22:41.11 | Speeddymon | then why was ace3 released? |
| 22:41.40 | Arrowmaster | so that better addons could be created |
| 22:41.57 | Speeddymon | well technically that's the ultimate goal for me is to make addons better |
| 22:42.04 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 22:42.08 | Speeddymon | er rather the underlying one |
| 22:42.10 | Arrowmaster | ports do not make better addons |
| 22:42.14 | Arrowmaster | they make worse ones |
| 22:42.28 | Speeddymon | oO |
| 22:43.03 | Arrowmaster | look at all the fubar plugins ported from titan panel plugins when fubar first gained popularity |
| 22:43.14 | Arrowmaster | those are some of the down right worst addons ever created |
| 22:44.11 | Speeddymon | wasnt fubar a pretty bad addon itself tho? i mean isn't that why tekkub released ldb? not to mention the "ports", if you can even call it that, from fubar to ldb and the fubar2broker hack? |
| 22:44.36 | Speeddymon | maybe im not using the right word then |
| 22:44.47 | sztanpet | its far from bad |
| 22:44.53 | Xinhuan | fubar was "revolutionary" for its time 2 years ago |
| 22:44.55 | Borlox | fubar wasn |
| 22:45.00 | tekkub | fubar in and of itself isn't bad |
| 22:45.01 | Borlox | t bad |
| 22:45.01 | sztanpet | but you can explain why you think its pretty bad |
| 22:45.08 | Xinhuan | because it was heaps better than titan |
| 22:45.09 | tekkub | the issue was FuBarPlugin... |
| 22:45.10 | Speeddymon | it was a question sztanpet |
| 22:45.23 | Borlox | it was a bit unflexible in it's design |
| 22:45.30 | Speeddymon | i see |
| 22:45.33 | tekkub | if you wanted optional support for Fu, you had to embed basically all the libs the full addon used |
| 22:45.45 | Arrowmaster | a port to me means whoever did it most likely doesnt even understand all the code in the original or the port, otherwise they would have rewriten it (its still a rewrite even if you copy large chunks of code, but you under stand all that code and know its needed) |
| 22:45.46 | Speeddymon | yea that never made sense to me either |
| 22:46.01 | tekkub | with LDB you just need CallbackHandler and LDB, both of which are pretty damn small |
| 22:46.42 | Xinhuan | don't think you even need CBH in many cases |
| 22:46.51 | Speeddymon | Arrowmaster: ok then my "port" to ace3 of postman a bit ago was by your definition a rewrite, because i do understand that code (i maintained it for a while) |
| 22:46.53 | Xinhuan | if its just a launcher for eg |
| 22:47.00 | Borlox | for optional support you could even not include them and just create your object if both libs are present |
| 22:47.14 | Speeddymon | hm |
| 22:47.41 | dais | Arrowmaster, I think from a functional perspective, you are right. A perfect port will at best give you the same addon, and most likely you'll break something while porting. |
| 22:48.07 | dais | However, it is possible that the new libraries you are using are more efficient - either from a run-time or from a memory usage perspective. |
| 22:48.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah by my definition a port is created for the purpose of porting from one dependancy to another, a rewrite is for the purpose of making a better addon |
| 22:48.56 | Repo | 10shadowuf-five: 03Kemayo 07master * v2-2-gee50b1c / (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 22:48.59 | Repo | ee50b1c: Handle shifted druids better |
| 22:49.02 | Repo | 184aaec: Bump TOC |
| 22:49.05 | Repo | afbc4be: Make configurable |
| 22:49.17 | Arrowmaster | yes a port could be a better addon due to the dependancies being that much better but the actual code of the addon wont be better in most cases |
| 22:49.40 | Arrowmaster | it will just be somewhat different |
| 22:50.36 | Speeddymon | ok well the intent of rewriting postman (i understand that code, therefore making it a rewrite lol) was to make the addon better by using less memory by using Ace3 instead of Ace2. |
| 22:50.50 | Speeddymon | altho |
| 22:51.02 | Speeddymon | i do understand that just because it uses ace3 doesn't make it use less memory |
| 22:51.40 | Arrowmaster | i mean look at what was considered revolutionary addons just 1 year after wow launch and look at what is considered revolutionary now, we are always learning from our mistakes and making better code so a rewrite should atleast involve a code review and just porting doesnt really do that |
| 22:52.16 | Xinhuan | your port will use less memory or be more efficient if you rewrote your code to be more efficient, use better data structures, use better events, throtling events, etc |
| 22:52.34 | Xinhuan | if you did all that, it would be a rewrite, rather than a port |
| 22:52.49 | Speeddymon | ok |
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| 22:53.19 | Speeddymon | so, the fact that i run ace2 disembedded and therefore it's a memory hog, accounts for nothing? |
| 22:53.32 | Xinhuan | oh it counts for something |
| 22:53.36 | Speeddymon | (the reason why i want to get rid of it) |
| 22:54.03 | Xinhuan | but its not something that is of any particular use for users, its still the same exact addon after all |
| 22:54.08 | Speeddymon | true |
| 22:54.12 | Xinhuan | for ppl who don't understand libs that is |
| 22:54.13 | Arrowmaster | look at it in terms of architechures, when a game is 'ported' to a different platform it is changed just enough to work without changing any functionality which inturn means they couldnt do any real code review on it and make it better or they risk making it different by accident |
| 22:54.26 | Speeddymon | gotchya |
| 22:54.29 | Xinhuan | think of a game on say Wii and then its ported to say PS3 |
| 22:54.31 | Xinhuan | its the same game |
| 22:55.05 | Arrowmaster | if they find a small bug somewhere they have to make a choice of fixing it or leaving it so the game is the same |
| 22:55.13 | Xinhuan | functionally, both games do not do anything different, or use different data structures |
| 22:55.21 | Arrowmaster | some game ports include the exact same glitches while some dont |
| 22:55.26 | Speeddymon | i see |
| 22:57.10 | Speeddymon | so in this case, where i ported postman to ace3, it probably won't have much effect on most users, but it's helping me to learn the functional differences between the 2, so that I can write a better clean ace3 addon (the true rewrite is a different project that will combine elements from several outdated projects) |
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| 22:57.45 | Speeddymon | while using mostly original code, not recycled crap from the old addons, that'd be a nightmare |
| 22:58.01 | Arrowmaster | really our definition of a port is the proper one since there are many programs that get ported to different architechures while the original is still active and maintained |
| 22:58.29 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: it can still be a rewrite if its the same addon just a new version |
| 22:58.53 | Speeddymon | well what i was saying tho is that i have already actually made a new project |
| 22:59.12 | Speeddymon | it's a written from scratch with minimally borrowed code, written natively for ace3 |
| 22:59.28 | Torhal | I don't understand why you took over all of these mail addons if your intent is just to write one of your own |
| 23:00.15 | Speeddymon | Arrowmaster: the purpose of my porting postman from ace2 to ace3, or rewriting it, however you want to look at it was to learn the functional differences between ace2 and ace3, so that i could know how to do things i used to do in ace2, cleanly in ace3 |
| 23:00.39 | Speeddymon | Torhal: the reason is because none worked, i wanted to get them working again until i got my own written |
| 23:00.58 | Speeddymon | i don't have a lot of time to write, so it was easier to get the old stuff working for the time being |
| 23:01.32 | Arrowmaster | right, for libraries though a direct port is just such a horrible idea though |
| 23:01.38 | Shadowed | wowtunnels ahte me Xinhuan :< |
| 23:01.39 | Speeddymon | ok makes sense |
| 23:01.40 | Shadowed | hates* |
| 23:01.57 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 23:02.01 | Shadowed | although torrents let me replicate a few bugs due to latency |
| 23:02.06 | Xinhuan | how about lowerping? |
| 23:02.08 | Xinhuan | gamepath? |
| 23:02.13 | Repo | 10libpendingheals-1-0 (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * a087731 LibPendingHeals-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Redid detection code again to account for latency better and be able to be more sturdy and less error prone. |
| 23:02.52 | Speeddymon | Arrowmaster: so i shouldnt worry (for my own install) about some of my older addons still using ace2 because it's probably not using a whole hell of a lot of memory anyways, right? |
| 23:03.04 | Shadowed | lesse will try gamepath |
| 23:03.05 | Arrowmaster | yet people want a dewdrop replacement and ask for a port yet just the idea of a drop in replacement for dewdrop that uses ace3 config tables instead of ace2 is such a bad idea since a drop in replacement would have to include all the minor bugs and stuff |
| 23:03.14 | Shadowed | if someone ports dewdrop I'll smack them |
| 23:03.21 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: for your own no it doesnt matter |
| 23:03.37 | Torhal | Shadowed: You're not the only one. |
| 23:03.40 | Funkeh` | can anyone online right now tell me if CanComplainChat() properly disallows you from complaining guildies |
| 23:03.41 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: ill do worse if i ever see a direct port of dewdrop |
| 23:03.44 | Shadowed | haha |
| 23:03.44 | Speeddymon | lol i never asked about dewdrop, i hate the whole cascading menu thing, i like blizzard's options interface anyways |
| 23:04.25 | Torhal | Shadowed: Though if you want a good "WTF?!?" look at http://www.wowace.com/addons/libsnowflake-2-0/ |
| 23:04.34 | Arrowmaster | Speeddymon: dewdrop is the reason we have this negative view of the word "port" and all the bitches claiming it wouldnt be 'that hard' to port dewdrop to ace3 |
| 23:04.34 | Shadowed | that sounds familar |
| 23:04.45 | Shadowed | ew |
| 23:05.00 | Shadowed | anyone who wants dewdrop on Ace3 should be run out of town anyway |
| 23:05.07 | Borlox | Funkeh: it should return false for guildies, at least there is no "Report Spam" option in the right-click menu |
| 23:05.15 | Funkeh` | aye |
| 23:05.16 | Speeddymon | granted, it's nice for some things to have a dropdown like that, like fubar plugins and ldb datasources, but for the most part i'd rather just see it go into blizzard's options window |
| 23:05.20 | Funkeh` | but I'd like to be sure |
| 23:05.21 | Xinhuan | port != rewrite |
| 23:05.29 | Shadowed | gamepath looks perfect |
| 23:05.30 | Shadowed | will try it later |
| 23:05.30 | Funkeh` | just on the safe side =) |
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| 23:05.38 | Arrowmaster | AceConfigDropdown would be a nice library if its ever written, there are many uses for small dropdowns |
| 23:06.02 | Speeddymon | indeed |
| 23:06.06 | Xinhuan | see, if its just small dropdowns, just use the god damn UIDropDownMenu |
| 23:06.13 | Xinhuan | i even wrote a guide for it |
| 23:06.13 | Shadowed | eh |
| 23:06.16 | Shadowed | UIDropDownMenu sucks |
| 23:06.18 | Speeddymon | lol very true |
| 23:06.20 | Shadowed | I hate working with it so much |
| 23:06.20 | Arrowmaster | they do suck |
| 23:06.26 | Shadowed | they aren't hard to use, they're just eh |
| 23:06.30 | Xinhuan | yeah it sucks, but that's only because the API for using it sucks |
| 23:06.34 | Speeddymon | iirc tho didn't UIDropDownMenu get added late into 2.x? |
| 23:06.37 | Xinhuan | and not because it inherently sucks |
| 23:06.43 | Shadowed | well yea |
| 23:06.50 | Shadowed | dropdown menus are fine as long as you can't go 50 levels deep |
| 23:07.10 | Speeddymon | hehe yea |
| 23:07.14 | Xinhuan | the menu itself is fine, its just that the API for manipulating it kinda sucks |
| 23:07.17 | Arrowmaster | there are some limitations to UIDropDownMenu |
| 23:07.18 | Speeddymon | *cough* cdt2 |
| 23:07.28 | Borlox | Funkeh: Returns nil for on- and offline guild members |
| 23:07.35 | Xinhuan | those limitations can have workarounds Arrowmaster |
| 23:07.47 | Arrowmaster | right but some of those workarounds are ugly |
| 23:07.48 | Borlox | at least in the CanComplainChat(name) form |
| 23:07.58 | Xinhuan | such as tooltips, i securehook GameTooltip_AddNewbieTip() for that one |
| 23:08.09 | Shadowed | If you do want to see how accurate the GUID detection stuff is by the way Xinhuan, http://www.wowace.com/addons/libpendingheals-1-0/ runs right now and will complain if it fails to find the right GUID :p |
| 23:08.25 | Xinhuan | Shadowed, i don't exactly play wow anymore hehe |
| 23:08.35 | Shadowed | damn |
| 23:08.38 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: so did you end up using guid compression? |
| 23:08.43 | Shadowed | I will yea Arrowmaster |
| 23:08.55 | Shadowed | not writing comm code yet |
| 23:09.24 | Arrowmaster | i really do suggest using something a little smaller than base256 but it will be complex to write |
| 23:11.07 | Xinhuan | are u sure guid compression is necessary? |
| 23:11.19 | Shadowed | not that it's necessary but |
| 23:11.33 | Shadowed | it compresses it from 18 characters to 10, and I send at least two GUIDs per message |
| 23:11.33 | Xinhuan | yes, you do save a bit on network traffic, but at the cost of lots of string creation and math |
| 23:11.48 | Shadowed | one time thought |
| 23:12.19 | Xinhuan | hmmm do you intend to clear the guid-compression table lookup cache regulaly? |
| 23:12.24 | Xinhuan | or will it grow forever in size |
| 23:12.33 | Xinhuan | until a logout/reload |
| 23:12.41 | Arrowmaster | it did in threat-2.0 but that wasnt really much of a problem |
| 23:12.56 | Shadowed | I already do sanity checks to clear out my GUID map tables when someone disappears, so I'll likely just do that |
| 23:13.02 | vhaarr | clear it on PEW |
| 23:13.06 | Arrowmaster | and we had guids for every mob ever seen in combat |
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| 23:13.21 | Shadowed | no sense in clearing it on PEW when I can just clear it when they leave group |
| 23:13.32 | vhaarr | less processing to clear it on PEW |
| 23:13.40 | Shadowed | I already do the processing is my point :p |
| 23:14.03 | Xinhuan | i currently clear it on P_E_W in omen ;p |
| 23:14.13 | vhaarr | ah, well I didn't follow the conversation, just read "clearing GUID tables" |
| 23:14.37 | Xinhuan | although it isn't for guid compression, i use guid lookup tables for other stuff |
| 23:14.42 | Zhinjio | testing |
| 23:14.44 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 23:14.50 | Zhinjio | hey Xinhuan |
| 23:14.58 | Shadowed | I'd rather clear them on PEW but, I need to maintain a map of GUID -> unit anyway |
| 23:15.15 | thul | hm, I'm not very impressed with upgrading my crystal infused tunic to the darkheart chestguard :/ |
| 23:15.52 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 23:16.15 | Zhinjio | testing again. |
| 23:16.17 | Zhinjio | thats better |
| 23:16.34 | Funkeh` | oh damn |
| 23:16.43 | Funkeh` | you can complain guildies that whisper you |
| 23:16.48 | Funkeh` | you can't complain friends that whisper you |
| 23:17.09 | Xinhuan | how does the default UI check? message type? |
| 23:17.39 | Funkeh` | CanComplainChat(id) |
| 23:18.03 | Zeksie | there's an index id in one of the args, that's not always set. which is what CanComplain probably validates |
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| 23:19.19 | Funkeh` | I kinda wish it wouldn't let you complain guildies also |
| 23:19.51 | Funkeh` | or maybe it's a bug, since you can never complain guild chat |
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| 23:23.21 | Zhinjio | rat-tails Cairenn with a towel. |
| 23:23.26 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 23:23.36 | Arrowmaster | Funkeh`: does guild chat have that arg with the unique number? |
| 23:23.38 | Repo | 10nrt: 03Gruturistic * r135 NRT.lua: |
| 23:23.38 | Zhinjio | ok, I think I can deal with this font. |
| 23:23.41 | Repo | do not trigger attendance for Gormok the Impaler, King Llane, Dreadscale, Icehowl |
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| 23:23.52 | Funkeh` | Arrowmaster, all chat does I believe |
| 23:29.12 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/mountaneer/. mountaneer. Illiai (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
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| 23:34.26 | Shadowed | oh god |
| 23:34.29 | Shadowed | target nearest functions :< |
| 23:34.51 | Repo | 10tradeskill-info: 03StingerSoft * r324 TradeskillInfoUI/locale-ruRU.lua: TradeskillInfo: |
| 23:34.54 | Repo | - ruRU update |
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| 23:39.58 | Xinhuan | shadowed, i suppose you just read my post about trying with /targetnearesttarget ;p |
| 23:40.07 | Xinhuan | or /targetlasttarget |
| 23:40.16 | Shadowed | I assume they function like TargetUnit does |
| 23:40.24 | Xinhuan | hopefully |
| 23:40.29 | Shadowed | they're only necessary if a cursor target is required |
| 23:40.31 | Shadowed | I'll check in a second |
| 23:40.52 | Xinhuan | well all heals require a cursor target technically? |
| 23:40.56 | Shadowed | nope |
| 23:41.06 | Xinhuan | unless its a self-only heal, or an aoe heal |
| 23:41.16 | Shadowed | sec have to do a stupid boss |
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| 23:44.01 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r86 / (4 files in 2 directories): |
| 23:44.04 | Repo | Removed LibBabble-Class usage, and fixed an in-combat error with tracking icons. |
| 23:44.05 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: when self cast is on, you pretty much never have a cursor target short of a heal like Binding Heal |
| 23:44.31 | Repo | 10repgain2: 03incith * r42 / (17 files in 3 directories): |
| 23:44.34 | Repo | Now using AceLocale for localizations, various files moved around, deDE and frFR slightly supported. Please test! |
| 23:44.39 | Xinhuan | its trivial to check if teh self-cast modifier is held down or not |
| 23:44.50 | Xinhuan | what it isn't so trivial is to check whether the self-cast modifier is applied |
| 23:45.00 | Shadowed | it's unnecessary |
| 23:45.11 | Shadowed | if you look at how the secure code works, it automatically passes the unit when a self-cast modifier is applied |
| 23:45.34 | Xinhuan | ah |
| 23:45.45 | Xinhuan | so you only have to guess if no unit is passed |
| 23:45.49 | Shadowed | yup |
| 23:45.59 | Shadowed | and you know that it's either target, mouseover or player |
| 23:46.23 | Shadowed | and UnitCanAssist("player", unit) covers having a target you can't heal |
| 23:47.17 | Xinhuan | how about focus-cast modifier |
| 23:47.30 | Shadowed | same as the player one, when you use the focus-cast modifier it passes focus as the unit |
| 23:47.49 | Xinhuan | why does self-cast modifier fail |
| 23:47.58 | Xinhuan | with /targetlasttarget |
| 23:48.03 | Shadowed | what do you mean? |
| 23:48.06 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 23:48.09 | Repo | Don't try to add a player to friends several times for 1 whisper (registered to more than 1 chat frame) v2.0.3 |
| 23:49.03 | Shadowed | and yea, TargetLastTarget works the same way TargetUnit does when it's waiting for a cursor which is perfect |
| 23:49.21 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v2.0.3 * r44 : Tagging as v2.0.3 |
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| 23:50.12 | Xinhuan | the lib doesn't handle instant heals right? |
| 23:50.16 | Xinhuan | unless its a HoT |
| 23:50.17 | Shadowed | not yet |
| 23:50.38 | Xinhuan | don't exactly see how/why you want to handle a instant heal |
| 23:50.42 | Xinhuan | that isn't a hot |
| 23:50.58 | Shadowed | er misread that |
| 23:51.01 | Shadowed | yea it won't support instant heals |
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| 23:52.06 | Shadowed | can't support instant heals anyway, by the time the comm reaches the person it's healing the server probably beat the comm to it |
| 23:53.09 | Xinhuan | and hots? |
| 23:53.20 | Shadowed | those are easy since I don't need to do any fancy GUID detections |
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| 23:53.44 | Shadowed | mmmmm thats fun |
| 23:53.54 | Shadowed | There's probably no way to get 100% accurate GUIDs for target nearest friend |
| 23:54.27 | Shadowed | provided they cast via cursor |
| 23:55.32 | Shadowed | but not much I can do about that beyond falling back on the GUID provided through name |
