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16:02.37ulicFunkeh`: I didn't add it to all of them.  What do you consider needed.  I added them to ones that had long timer bars, so they'd be cleared and to ones that had some counts going on.
16:03.12Funkeh`needed I consider anything with an enrage or a variable that needs reset
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16:06.11ulicDoes it have a lot overhead?  I'd think it would be less overhead in 5-mans, but I can probably remove some.
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16:09.54profalbertis there a library that does something similar to LibRock-1.0's table-recycling?
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16:15.04[Ammo]no need for a lib for that
16:15.10[Ammo]just do what you need
16:15.17[Ammo]either use table.wipe or reuse keys etc
16:15.27[Ammo]do whatever is best for the situation, not some generic, zomg recycle
16:15.41Zeksiemost mods have their own. and it's safer that way. recycliing comes with it's own issues
16:16.07profalbertI'll do it myself then, thanks
16:17.06Zeksiefor debugging, you might wanna throw in some meta tables to prevent access/assign of tables that have not been re-allocated. can save you some headache down the line if you lose one
16:18.13sb|work[Ammo]: how to access the sorted maintank list from oRA3?
16:18.30profalbertZeksie: thanks, I'll keep that in mind
16:19.48[Ammo]oRA.RegisterCallback(self, "OnTanksUpdated", function( event, tanklist ) .... end )
16:19.55[Ammo]where self is your addon
16:20.31[Ammo]I guess I should provide a method to just retrieve the current list
16:22.31Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r245 modules/Tanks.lua: add oRA:GetSortedTankList() API
16:25.00profalbertdoes table.wipe also remove the meta table?
16:25.15Zeksiedoubt it
16:26.30Zeksietested. it does not
16:26.37profalbertZeksie: thanks
16:26.57Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r246 modules/Tanks.lua:
16:27.00Reporename to oRA:GetSortedTanks() to be more consistent with other public api methods
16:28.03Zeksieammo: does ora3 still use the same addon channel stuff as with ora2/ctra for get/setting maintanks?
16:28.09[Ammo]no
16:28.15Zeksiemeh
16:28.16Zeksieok.
16:28.16asmodaigets a mental image of tanks standing in sorted order
16:28.17sb|workthere is no get/set maintanks, its blizz tanks only
16:28.20[Ammo]only shared tanks are the blizzard ones
16:28.27[Ammo]and your personal tanks mixed in
16:28.30quiescensrearranges the tanks
16:28.32[Ammo]and sorted the way you want it
16:28.50Zeksieok. thx
16:28.52[Ammo]it's basically MT & PT combined
16:29.25Zeksieyeh, i did something like that for X-Perl's MT list. remembers the order they were defined in, tacking them onto end of oRA2 ones
16:29.44sb|workhmmmm... so you have that sorted list, regardless of defined blizz maintanks - and if you set some as blizz maintanks its just for other people, right? :p (doesn't affect your current display)
16:30.28[Ammo]it affects your current display
16:30.43[Ammo]blizzard MTs are always in the list
16:30.49[Ammo]since your raidleaders want them to be
16:30.58sb|worki'm my own raidleader!
16:31.10[Ammo]well then no problem :p
16:32.01[Ammo]the whole deal is actually quite simple, blizzard MTs + own tanks + your own sorting pref => list
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16:32.17sb|workso i just say "its this, thhat and that guy" in blizz targets - and each user can sort them just how they like it (in their ora3 panel - they will be there if i add them via blizz /mt), default sorting is whatever blizz default sorting is
16:32.21sb|workright? :p
16:32.28[Ammo]yeah
16:32.34[Ammo]default sorting will be order of addin
16:32.51[Ammo](or if they already had that player on their list once, then it obeys that order)
16:32.53sb|workhm so - then just one more thing
16:33.04sb|workis it possible to define some auto-blizz-mt-promote list? :P
16:33.08[Ammo]no
16:33.16[Ammo]can't automatically assign the roles
16:33.18sb|workaka "add this tank as blizz mt when he/she enters the raid"
16:33.26[Ammo]but you can click the shields in the oRA3 list
16:33.29[Ammo]for quick adding
16:33.34sb|workhm yah, i know
16:33.43sb|workokay
16:34.00sb|workis it because ./mt is secure?
16:34.04[Ammo]yeah
16:34.08sb|workmeh okay :(
16:34.20sb|workauto-promote list would have been nice, but its blizz fault then :p
16:35.36[Ammo]It would have been in ther already if I could
16:35.44sb|workokay :p
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16:36.28sb|worki just contacted that daMT (oUF mt frames) guy, maybe he will implement oRA3 MTs.. or maybe nevcairiel will finish his display :p
16:38.01[Ammo]I intend to write some demo ones
16:38.12sb|workwhy demo? :p
16:38.16[Ammo]because shrug
16:38.20[Ammo]I don't use MTs myself!
16:38.32Pneumatus^are you a tank then?
16:38.37[Ammo]no
16:38.39[Ammo]healer
16:39.05[Ammo]but why heal tanks on the MT list, when you can heal them in the raidframes and be quicker healing others too
16:40.01Pneumatus^well, at present because i dont have a grid layout im happy with
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16:41.06Ackis_so the gf is discussing with me on coming back to wow :(
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16:41.22durcyndon't do it
16:41.48Ackis_I need a guild, durcyn can I join yours?
16:41.49Ackis_<PROTECTED>
16:41.58quiescensrun awai
16:43.07durcynnah, you're probably too scrubby
16:44.43sb|workAckis_: discussing - err.. she wants you to come back?
16:44.52sb|workor she doesn't want you to "go" there? :P
16:45.04Groktarnibbles on sb|work
16:45.34Ackis_sb|work: she wants us both to play again
16:45.41quiescensrun awai
16:46.24asmodaiAckis_: the missus?
16:46.30sb|workAckis_: thats good, isn't it? :p
16:46.48sb|workor is it something like "i don't wanna have sex, let's play wow"
16:46.54asmodairofl
16:46.57nevcairiellol
16:47.00Ackis_nah, we would take afk breaks for quickies
16:47.02asmodaibadum tschsssssss
16:47.09asmodai</rimshot>
16:47.13durcynwould YOU want to have sex with Ackis?
16:47.22Ackis_durcyn: you already do
16:47.26asmodaidurcyn: Only if he wines and dines
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16:48.44Megalonhe's a troll, you can abuse him in any way
16:48.48Megalonand he just regenerates
16:49.11asmodaihands the troll a red herring
16:49.42asmodai</reference type="obscure" game="monkey island">
16:51.25nevcairielits not that obscure if you know MI :P
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16:51.43asmodainevcairiel: I have little hope for today's game players :(
16:51.50asmodaiI had to explain Boulder Dash to someone today
16:52.00sb|workwhy would you have a island with monkeys!?!?
16:52.30ulicwhy wouldn't you?
16:56.31CShadowRunIs there any addon to make it so that when you right click on an item in the guild bank, it withdraws the whole stack instead of just one?
16:56.51quiescensisn't that what it does by default?
16:56.55Pneumatus^it does that by default
16:57.00Pneumatus^you must have an addon interfering
16:57.05CShadowRunit does? for me it only withdraws one
16:57.13CShadowRunhehe ok, guess i'll fiddle with my addons and figure it out
16:57.18Ackis_Megalon: are you calling me a troll? :'( lol
16:57.54Megalonby fire be purged
16:58.31Ackis_heh
16:58.55asmodaitook him a while to pick up on that ;)
17:04.02Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r591 / (25 files in 7 directories):
17:04.05RepoGuess I should have read the API notes, removed CheckForWipe unless it was really needed
17:05.56asmodaiok, so they changed water to be reflective in Cataclysm
17:06.10asmodaibut also where lava/magma is hitting the water you now see boiling water
17:07.12steevspiffy
17:08.17steevso close to high warlord's battleaxe
17:09.58durcynyour mother's a battleaxe.
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17:13.52Repo10gsshield: 03Julith 04v0.9 * r37 : Tagging as v0.9
17:20.52steevits glandular
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17:25.30asmodaihttp://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y206/VeEzyV/q6umm.png
17:25.32asmodaiouch comes to mind
17:27.29Megalon4chan at work :P
17:30.09asmodaiBibi: But seriously, what do you think of those Noobz? :)
17:31.14asmodaiBibi: nice dig at being right btw :P
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17:52.57PProvostAnyone know if the trackers in BigWigs_CommonAuras are now redundant/included in BigWigs?
17:53.18Funkeh`no
17:54.31Zeksiei beleive they were actively removed from BW proper some time ago
17:55.51Funkeh`CommonAuras was never a aprt of BigWigs, that's why it was made
18:02.12asmodaiSo, wrt Curse not picking up the updates
18:02.22asmodaiWho can fix that bridge? Kaelten?
18:03.11Hjalteasmodai: Didn't they fix it already?
18:03.58asmodaiNot sure? :)
18:04.23Stanzillashould be fixed
18:04.36asmodaicool beans
18:04.41Stanzilla15:56:39 ? ckknight: hey all, syncer's back up. There was a DB replication issue.
18:04.48asmodaiNow I feel all fuzzy inside again
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18:09.59Fiskerplay me off Zeksie
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18:10.36NivFreakPProvost: use raidcooldowns!
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18:11.40Stanzillaplays Fisker off
18:12.50Megalonfilms
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18:13.30Ackis_was there any info posted about faction changes at blizzcon?
18:14.01Fiskeryes Ackis_
18:14.27FiskerThey asked me what business it was of mine and conjectured that my mother was a prostitute
18:14.29Ackis_Fisker: I'm going through mm-champ, do you have a link handy by any chance? I just found a 1-liner about race changes after faction changes
18:15.01FiskerThey said it was done
18:15.05NivFreakthey really didn't say anything more
18:15.06Repo10democratic-ready-check: 03ghenningp 04v1.1.9 * r56 : toc update
18:15.07NivFreakon timing
18:15.23Ackis_ah I'm wondering how it'll work with mounts/items/etc
18:15.26FiskerAnd they were currently working on finishing the sites for launch etc.
18:15.49Pneumatus^yeh, they didnt give any actual details that anyone wants to know :<
18:15.55Fiskeryou'll probably be given a other faction's equilivant
18:16.00Ackis_that sucks
18:16.05Ackis_Fisker: probably ~= truth
18:16.35Fiskercheck wowhead
18:17.21Ackis_Fisker: tranquillen, the frost saber faction don't have equivilents on the other side
18:17.33durcynAckis_: does now
18:17.43durcynor is the ungoro mount not actually faction based
18:17.57Ackis_durcyn: my understanding is that it was quest based
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18:18.20FiskerAckis  technically tranquillen IS the frost saber equilivant
18:18.33NivFreakhopefully they release good detail
18:18.35Fiskerthat's why the horde one isn't a reputation grind as well
18:18.47NivFreaktranquillen is rough rep grind!!
18:18.55Ackis_NivFreak: agreed! ;)
18:18.55NivFreakI had to like, complete 20 quests or so
18:19.00NivFreakit took maybe 2 hours!
18:19.40Ackis_Fisker: how do you say that tranqullen is the horde and wintersaber is alliance?  I don't see any conenction between the two
18:19.58FiskerThe wintersaber faction was an additional reputation for the alliance
18:20.09FiskerTranquillen is Horde's additional reputation to balance it out
18:20.12durcynthey aren't connected, his point was tranquillen was added to balance the number of factions available to each
18:20.16Fisker^^
18:20.22Ackis_ah ok
18:20.34Ackis_i see what you're saying
18:20.35durcynso you can be Ackis the Exalted
18:20.44Ackis_i already am
18:20.45Ackis_:P
18:21.01Ackis_I'm close to ackis the insane lol was in the middle of it when I stopped
18:21.18durcyni got bored halfway through killing goblins for that
18:22.00Pneumatus^any of you lot tried/done 1light with only 4/5 melee?
18:22.05Pneumatus^25man
18:22.17Ackis_I was exalted goblins then did bloodsail, and then got around 20k/21k for exalted again w/ them
18:22.18durcynwhy on earth would you bring so few melee?
18:22.39Pneumatus^5 melee afk tonight, so we dont have a choice
18:22.52durcynAckis_: i figured i'd try to do exalted bloodsail eventually, apparently the revered-exalted grind is disturbingly hard though, and you have to save the quests for then
18:23.41Ackis_durcyn: there's a mob that gives you 1 rep from revered -> exalted w/ a 5 minute respawn time... it's pretty much impossible to go from revered -> exalted w/ blood sail
18:24.09durcynit's been done perhaps twice ever
18:25.37Zeksiethink it's 5 or 25 rep now.
18:25.44Zeksiewith the 3.1 ?  change
18:26.00Zeksiei considered doing it.. for about 8 seconds.
18:27.51steevcreated an orc dk on thursday, all i've been doing is pvp, and i'm up to level 63 already
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18:28.29rubikhmm.. sounds tempting
18:28.32Zeksiemad..
18:28.51rubikwhat kind of pvp is required for something like that? (out of touch with recent pvp changes, sorry)
18:29.01steevnot sure about world
18:29.04steevbut any of the bgs
18:29.18rubikoh yeah.. BGs give rep now right?
18:29.20rubikerr.. xp
18:29.22steevyep
18:29.42steevlots of it... assuming your team/faction/battlegroup doesn't suck
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18:53.21steevis there a way on curse.com to sort alphabetically... with A being the first letter instead of reverse?
19:02.09steevwow, honorable defender is a pretty spiffy buff
19:02.13steev50% more xp from hk's
19:02.46sb|workespecially if you are priest or shammy :p
19:03.07sb|workmind vision / far sight thingie into the zerg -> mass xp :p
19:03.36sb|worki think its bugged
19:03.39sb|workor.. well
19:03.42sb|workthey will fix it
19:05.09steevxp/honor?
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19:25.14Pneumatus^vhaarr: the yogg module seems fine, is there anything specific i should be looking for?
19:30.30Funkeh`what is this f bull
19:30.34Funkeh`doing loch modan quests
19:30.39Funkeh`giving me exodar rep instead of gnome rep
19:30.53nevcairielis your ironforge rep full?
19:31.07nevcairielits probably just listing the spillover
19:31.11nevcairielusing the first in the list
19:31.13Pneumatus^gnome rep is a pain in the ass to get
19:32.13durcynit used to be bloody easy in AV
19:32.27durcynsurely you can still just spam loot corpses and teleport back then spam turnins, no?
19:34.00Pneumatus^i did loremaster and still didnt have gnomes exalted, so i spammed AV turnins
19:35.17Funkeh`nevcairiel, aye it is
19:35.25nevcairieli had gnomes exalted from all the spill-over from other faction reps
19:35.30Funkeh`but come to think of it, I seem to be getting gnome rep now and then, but it's not listing it
19:35.52Funkeh`hehe
19:35.52nevcairielafter loremaster
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19:39.29durcynif you're doing it in av, it's all spillover until ironforge is max exalted, then it'll start showing the next alliance faction on the list, and so on
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19:54.22MegalonDAMN YOU Fisker!
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20:06.46Pneumatushmm, is curse.com displaying weird for anyone else?
20:07.05Pneumatusthe whole header bar is showing on top of addon comments for me :<
20:07.17Shirikexample page?
20:07.45Pneumatushttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/head-count.aspx for example, the header section is all over the top of the first comment
20:09.03Shirikwow
20:09.05Shirikagree
20:09.12Shirikwhat browser are you using?
20:09.15Pneumatushttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/aebd08ea9aff9f53795966422779e8c7.jpg
20:09.27Shirikok that's not what it looks like to me
20:09.29PneumatusFF 3.5.2
20:09.31Shirikbut it still looks very broken
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20:09.59Pneumatusin IE8 it looks broken as well, just differently broken
20:10.05Zeksiesame as Pneu
20:10.10Shirikis it only that page, Pneumatus?
20:10.14Shiriktry going to another addon
20:10.25Shirikread the comments on the page
20:10.30Shirik"I think my comments broke the page"
20:10.48Pneumatusyeh, i think the comments broke the page as well :)
20:10.53Pneumatusother pages seem fine
20:12.04Pneumatusactually, it could be the advert
20:12.17steevi think you need more tabs
20:12.36Pneumatusi was being served a square advert in the gap above screenshots
20:12.49Pneumatussteev: that's not even all of them
20:12.52Pneumatusive got another row hidden
20:13.27ZeksiePneumatus: not the ad. i have premium and show the header in same place as you
20:13.44Pneumatuswell, i have premium, but curse not letting me log in is yet another problem
20:13.51Zeksieheh
20:21.51Pneumatushave poked NeT anyway :P
20:26.40Pneumatusheh, the comments have been nuked
20:29.50vhaarrPneumatus: just make sure you don't get the sanity blizzard messages
20:30.02Pneumatuswhen you lose sanity?
20:30.06vhaarry
20:30.42Pneumatusstill getting them in the chat window
20:30.46vhaarryes
20:30.49vhaarrbut not in the middle of the screen
20:31.00Pneumatusyeh
20:31.04vhaarrcool
20:31.12vhaarrcrappy spam gone, win
20:32.12vhaarrPProvost: why do you ask about commonauras?
20:32.29vhaarrPProvost: I just committed a fix for it this morning if it's broken for you
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20:33.19vhaarranyway back in an hour
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20:34.57ulicvhaarr: am I going to need to sync a LittleWigs release with BigWigs for the case change to toggleOptions?
20:35.23Funkeh`yes
20:36.00PProvostvhaarr: I think it is fine, was just wondering about its status
20:36.19PProvostAlso trying to figure out why BigWigs does't show some of the new stuff in /rw instead of in chatframe1
20:36.37PProvostbut admittedly haven't spent much time on it yet
20:36.40ulicFunkeh': Ok, that's what I figured, if you have any advanced idea when that might happen a PM on wowace.com would be appreciated.  If you remember :)
20:37.48Stanzilla22:34:50 ยท Schwingen des Phoenix has earned the achievement [Realm First! Death's Demise]! weeee
20:37.58durcynStanzilla: fuck you.
20:38.02Stanzilla:P
20:38.17durcyni hate being on a realm with two top 25 guilds
20:38.33durcynmissing so many server first titles that other servers got months later
20:38.45rubikhmm.. breaking news from the "duh++" department.. michael jackson death ruled a homicide.
20:38.55Pneumatussauce
20:39.11Stanzilladurcyn: be nice, i was on the bench tonight
20:39.18durcynStanzilla: oh.  sucker.
20:39.24Stanzillayup
20:39.26Stanzillasame for algalon
20:39.28Stanzillapretty cool
20:39.58steevrubik: that must be why twitter is down
20:40.14steevgood thing twitter is still up
20:40.53rubikhaha.. could very well be
20:43.22steever
20:43.29steevgood thing wow is still up*
20:43.44steevwow, twitter, whats the difference
20:43.56steevwow makes a shitton more money
20:43.58durcyni dunno, steev, why don't you go post on your diaryland.com about it
20:44.09steevdurcyn: fffffffffffffffffffffff uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
20:48.28steevalso, what is diaryland
20:50.26StanzillaOH MAN
20:50.28Pneumatusi love The Telegraph
20:50.34StanzillaStable Keeper for the guy that got the mount
20:50.37Stanzilla>.<
20:50.43Pneumatus"Michael Jackson death was homocide says LA coroner "
20:50.50Pneumatusthat's right, homocide
20:51.10steevduh
20:52.06steevat least it wasn't pedocide?
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20:52.36durcynyeah that's nice, can we stop talking about stupid dead celebrities now and move on to something actually interesting like drying paint
20:53.56asmodaiOr you missing a realm first?
20:54.06durcyntouche!
20:54.09asmodai;)
20:54.14asmodaiStanzilla: gratz btw
20:54.39Stanzillathanks
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21:04.25asmodaiAnyone got an instance combatlog around I can get?
21:18.15Funkeh`gnome rep is harder than I thought
21:18.21Funkeh`I did ironforge in like an hour
21:18.28Funkeh`I cant think of nay gnome questing hub
21:18.29vhaarrPProvost: I don't understand what you mean by "not showing the new stuff in /rw instead of in chatframe1"
21:18.39vhaarrPProvost: could you please rephrase, and define "new stuff"
21:20.15PneumatusFunkeh`: there isnt really a gnome hub, best there is are the few gnomeregan quests :<
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21:22.23ulicFunkeh`: you try making a filter on quests using wowhead?
21:23.24durcynall alliance factions have spillover though
21:23.34durcynjust do all of the lowbie quests and you'll be through a big chunk of it
21:24.21Funkeh`I am
21:24.25Funkeh`but it's fucking painful
21:24.28Funkeh`69 rep per quest
21:24.45Fiskerrunecloth
21:24.56Fiskeror AV
21:25.11NivFreakdude
21:25.14NivFreakfor city rep
21:25.17NivFreakargent tourney
21:25.20NivFreaknothing comes close
21:25.36FiskerAV does
21:25.43NivFreaknot really, I did that for a while
21:25.50NivFreakthe main problem is, they zerg games so fast
21:25.55NivFreakyou can only do 1-3 turnins
21:26.00NivFreakof blood/flesh/armor
21:26.04FiskerAV
21:26.10durcynalso, AV.
21:26.21durcynrun up with the main group, die or trinket back, turn in, repeat
21:26.29NivFreakyea, but games end in < 10 mins :P
21:26.47FiskerAV
21:26.54durcyni dont' know how it works on your planet, but ten minutes of looting corpses is a fair chunk of armor scraps and storm crystals
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21:36.40PneumatusAVs tend to be a boss rush
21:37.52Gnarfozdon't be part of it and it'll work out
21:38.14NivFreakwell, I certainly tried that route for a while
21:38.18miicathere is some problems with CALENDAR_OPEN_EVENT event?
21:38.24NivFreakand found the argent tourney to be a lot better time to rep ratio
21:38.30NivFreakour queues are also 20min+
21:40.18FiskerAV
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21:42.34Zeksiemiica: some more info than 'some problem' ?
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22:00.04PrimerDoes Ackis still live?
22:00.35Funkeh`no
22:00.42Funkeh`he's corpse running at the moment
22:00.44PProvostvhaarr: when I said new stuff... as an example...
22:01.41PProvostOn Jaraxxus, Incinerate Flesh debuff gets printed to ChatFrame1, but no icon gets applied to the target and no message gets displayed on the screen in the configured message frame
22:01.55vhaarrthat's not intended
22:02.10vhaarrdoes that happen now?
22:02.21PProvostLast night
22:02.29PProvostUnless it got checked in today
22:02.39vhaarrprinted to chatframe1, so you have that option enabled then?
22:02.48vhaarror do you mean the blizzard warning
22:02.57PProvostMaybe that is the blizz warning
22:03.11miicaZeksie: dididnt get it work :/
22:03.21PProvost"Quaiche is affected by Incinerate Flesh" in yellow text in ChatFrame1
22:03.27vhaarrthat's blizz
22:03.34PProvostThen I'm getting nothing from BW
22:03.45Zeksiemiica: think you have to call OpenCalendar() before you get anything from it
22:04.04steevZeksie: you do :(
22:04.05PProvostI wasn't sure if it was missing, or intentional
22:04.11vhaarrmissing
22:04.33vhaarrPProvost: enUS/GB?
22:04.37PProvostenUS
22:04.38aestilrumor that F&F for cataclsym is starting next week.
22:04.53PProvostIn fact, I'm looking at the code for Jaraxxus.lua and I've never seen any of those announcements
22:05.16Fiskernaw Aens|Superiority
22:05.16vhaarrPProvost: have you updated bw since this happened?
22:05.19Fiskeraestil
22:05.26PProvostI update almost every day
22:05.32vhaarrand?
22:05.38aestilFisker:
22:05.42PProvostAs I said... nothing last night
22:05.50vhaarrPProvost: have you updated bw *since* last night?
22:05.57PProvostI'll dig into it a big more since you say it should work
22:06.03vhaarrno no wait now, you don't understand
22:06.07vhaarrI want to know exactly what revisions you had when it happened
22:06.08Fisker"naw aestil"
22:06.14vhaarrand if you have NOT updated, then you can find that out
22:06.19aestilwhat?
22:06.19vhaarrwhich would be a good thing
22:06.23PProvostI'm not sure if I've updated since last night's raid.
22:06.28PProvostBut I did update before last night's raid
22:06.31vhaarrokay good
22:06.40vhaarrPProvost: can you go in jaraxxus.lua and give me the revision
22:06.48PProvost5789
22:06.52steevaestil: what's f&f?
22:07.00aestilfriends and family
22:07.03steevahh
22:07.09PProvostActually... I know I updated today
22:07.15PProvostI was working on my update script
22:07.18PProvostWhoops
22:07.18PProvost:)
22:07.29vhaarrPProvost: no no
22:07.37vhaarr5789 is not the most recent one
22:07.40vhaarrso lets see
22:07.44vhaarrdon't update yet :P
22:08.06vhaarrPProvost: are you ingame, can you do /print BigWigs.revision
22:08.07PProvostI see that there are newer in SVN
22:08.13PProvostI can... one sec
22:08.14vhaarrand tell me what that says
22:08.19vhaarror look it up in core.lua
22:09.03PProvost5784
22:09.14PProvostI don't pull svn
22:09.17Fisker[00:04:37] <aestil> rumor that F&F for cataclsym is starting next week.
22:09.17PProvostJust beta and release
22:09.20PProvostShould I pull svn?
22:09.22vhaarrsvn == beta
22:09.30PProvostTagged A though
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22:09.34PProvostSo I don't get em
22:10.13PProvosthang on...
22:10.14vhaarrPProvost: was this 10man or 25man?
22:10.14aestilthats the rumor Fisker
22:10.17PProvostchecks his update script
22:10.20PProvost10-man
22:10.26Fiskerthe rumor is wrong
22:10.28Fiskermy cat agrees
22:10.36vhaarrPProvost: alright well you should use alphas, jaraxxus should work now
22:10.38PProvostAh
22:10.42PProvostI pull bigwigs from wowi
22:10.45PProvostChanging it now
22:10.47vhaarrPProvost: you had a version with only 25man spell IDs, as far as I know
22:11.03vhaarrPProvost: either use releases or alphas, there's no such thing as a bigwigs beta
22:11.18vhaarrat least not that I've sanctioned, do I need to beat up Funkeh` ?
22:11.22PProvostchanged script to pull fro wowace
22:11.30orionshockjnwhiteh: ping
22:11.32PProvostWill pull today's drop
22:11.50vhaarrokay well it should work now in any case
22:12.03PProvostthanks!
22:12.04orionshocklol he told me to email him.. but i can't find his email ...
22:12.51PProvostvhaarr: spell ids are diff 10- and 25-man?
22:12.55vhaarryes
22:13.00PProvostulduar too?
22:13.28vhaarrfor some abilities
22:13.31PProvostthat might explain why we don't see Mark of the Faceless (Vezax) announcements too
22:13.55PProvostsom of my raid leaders have started using VezaxSpammer (terrible POS addon)
22:14.27vhaarrmark only has 1 ID
22:14.36PProvostok
22:14.49vhaarrit's more likely that the beta you were using was flawed
22:14.53mitchnull[2009/08/25 00:18:04-954-x1]: TourGuide-Alpha\Mapping.lua:59: attempt to call global 'QuestMapUpdateQuest' (a nil value)
22:14.57mitchnullwhat am I missing?
22:15.04PProvostgotcha
22:15.07PProvostwill update
22:15.11PProvostthanks vhaarr
22:15.29orionshockdid blizzard's quest helper make it into 3.2 ?
22:15.29vhaarrPProvost: np, and if you have any problems then just poke me here or file a ticket
22:15.35vhaarrno, it didn't
22:15.36PProvostyou got it
22:16.16vhaarrmitchnull: nothing, it's referencing a function that was planned for 3.2 but didn't get pushed to release, he probably wrote the tourguide alpha presuming that it would go live
22:16.26mojosdojovhaarr: poke
22:16.33vhaarrcounter-poke
22:17.09mitchnullhohum
22:17.20aestilFisker: you hope its not right, or you think its not?
22:18.32mojosdojovhaarr: yogg-saron's module, in phase 3: does self:CancelAllScheduledEvents() cancel the enrage timer?
22:19.02vhaarrmojosdojo: hm no, but it will cancel any warnings for it
22:19.05Fiskernono aestil
22:19.07vhaarri.e. the bar should still run
22:19.08Fiskeri KNOW it's not right
22:19.09Fisker:#
22:19.10Fisker:3
22:19.17mojosdojoasking, because i didn't see it in phase 3
22:19.24vhaarrmojosdojo: didn't consider that before, crap!
22:19.40vhaarrwell observed, I'll note it down
22:19.58vhaarrjust let me write PaparazziGnome first
22:20.18ulicscreenshot utilities?
22:20.27vhaarrye I'm tired of forgetting to screenshot things
22:22.37PProvostvhaarr: I use MultiShot
22:23.42Pneumatusvhaarr: are you aware that yogg's gaze cooldown timer is slightly too long?
22:23.50vhaarrPneumatus: that's why it has a ~
22:23.52Pneumatuson the odd occasion he will gaze before the bar ends
22:23.55vhaarrit's an estimate
22:24.00Pneumatuskk
22:24.06vhaarrindeed, on the *odd* occation
22:24.21vhaarrit has been decided by higher powers (tm) that it's not worth lowering the bar for that odd occation
22:24.23Pneumatusyeh, i thought it might be set to the shortest possible time
22:24.25vhaarri.e. me
22:24.53vhaarrif you disagree then feel free to snipe away
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22:25.33Pneumatusno, as long as it was intentional :)
22:25.47vhaarryes but thanks for asking, it might not've been
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22:41.05vhaarrgrr are /emotes stored in strings somewhere?
22:41.26jnwhitehorionshock: my email is easy.. pick a username and add @gmail.com
22:42.13orionshocklol
22:42.39jnwhitehand with that, i'm off to the beach
22:42.40jnwhitehbbl
22:42.44orionshock...
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22:55.25Repo10paparazzignome: 03Rabbit * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Initial commit.
22:56.00Pneumatus@describe paparazzignome
22:56.01RepoPneumatus: http://www.wowace.com/addons/paparazzignome/. PaparazziGnome. He's always there to catch you in the act!
22:56.13Repo10paparazzignome: 03Rabbit * r3 svn-commit.tmp: Remove svn-commit.tmp, added accidentally.
22:59.17vhaarrmojosdojo: damn you, this is a dilly of a pickle
22:59.46vhaarrbut ah, you see
22:59.47vhaarrself:TriggerEvent("BigWigs_StopBars", self)
22:59.52vhaarrthat will stop the enrage bar as well
22:59.56vhaarrgrr
23:00.08vhaarrand CancelAllScheduledEvents will stop the warnings
23:00.09vhaarrdammit
23:01.53taledencan you save the timer value and restart it after clearing?
23:02.34vhaarrthat's a horrible solution, but at least it's something
23:03.02taledenwell unless you have a :CancelAllScheduledEventsExceptThisOne() .. :)
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23:03.38vhaarrno but I'll just have to cancel delayed messages by ID instead of using :CancelAll
23:03.44vhaarrand bars one by one as well
23:09.21vhaarrproblem is I don't really have a way of getting the currently running bars for a module without violating the object dependencies
23:09.42vhaarrwell, it's not a problem, but it would make things easier
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23:11.48Skellum"Message: ..\FrameXML\GameTooltip.lua line 126:
23:11.49Skellum<PROTECTED>
23:11.52SkellumAny idea the mod?
23:12.04aestilrating buster?
23:12.05ZeksieLibStatLogic
23:12.07Zeksieyes
23:12.08vhaarrthat's a library problem
23:12.12Zeksiestartup issue
23:12.14Zeksieprobabl
23:12.23Skellumhappens when I mouseover items
23:12.28Zeksieyeh, it would
23:12.34SkellumSolution?
23:12.35Zeksiego update it first
23:12.42SkellumUpdate the lib?
23:12.43Zeksiethen update it again to be sure
23:12.45Zeksieboth
23:14.25Gnarfoz@project paparazzignome
23:14.26RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/paparazzignome/. PaparazziGnome. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 18 minutes ago
23:14.27Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5875 Ulduar/YoggSaron.lua: Fix removing the enrage bar+warnings in p3.
23:14.42vhaarrnow to find out if any other bosses have this problem
23:14.59SkellumSo is the only way to make the curse updater detect if there are updates to randomly reinstall mods constantly?
23:15.16vhaarrgrrr
23:15.36vhaarrmojosdojo: damn you!
23:21.52vhaarrmojosdojo: thorim and mimiron have this problem, at least, but I'll need to find a better solution for it, because the convenience of doing just "stop all my bars and cancel my messages" is too great to be ditched
23:22.10vhaarrso I'll have to invent something creative for it
23:23.53orionshocknearly every boss has an enrage? so make that function take an arg that if true cancles the enrage too but normally dosn't ?
23:24.25vhaarrdid you see me ask for help
23:24.37orionshockno, but it was an idea..
23:24.44vhaarruseless idea
23:24.56orionshockhehe i have alot of those, sorry
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23:31.24Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5876 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: Fix removing the enrage bar+warnings in p3.
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23:32.54taledenis it normal for a 62 paladin to own a 62 dk without even breaking a sweat, over and over? or am I terrible?
23:33.38SkellumErr...
23:33.42SkellumThe second thing
23:33.51SkellumDK gear is perfectly itemized for its level
23:34.12taledeni haven't gotten much since the starting blue set
23:34.20Skellumexactly
23:34.22taledenbut still, he doesn't even bubble and heal, he just stunlocks me down in no time
23:34.25SkellumTry using more chains of ice
23:34.32SkellumAnd death strike
23:34.39taledenwhen i get a chance i do
23:34.46taledeni seriously get about 3 hits in before i'm dead
23:34.50taledenbetween the stuns
23:34.50Skellumyou also have a PvP trinket
23:36.13Groktartunaks Skellum's tun
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23:37.28orionshocktaleden: just a reminder, pallys can stunlock better than rogues..
23:37.30orionshocksadly
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23:38.53Groktardon't forgot prot warriors!
23:39.42Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5877 Ulduar/Mimiron.lua:
23:39.45RepoFix removing the enrage bar+warnings between phases, remove the Flame Suppressant bars and warnings since they were very inaccurate, and just alert when he starts casting it instead.
23:40.00aestilwhat costume won the contest at blizzcon this year?
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23:42.42rubiksome diablo witch chick or something i thought it was? shrug
23:42.45Gnarfozaestil: Diablo 3 Misstress of Pain
23:42.58Gnarfoz(which... is some giant spider-like monstrosity)
23:43.11Gnarfozyeah, that/her/whatever
23:45.48Stanzillavhaarr: what's the next step for bigwigs ace3 fun? options conversion?
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23:46.55vhaarrStanzilla: yes options and acelocale3
23:47.03Stanzillacool :)
23:47.04vhaarrI've been thinking about the options since yesterday
23:47.12Stanzillaabout the layout?
23:47.15vhaarrso I'll start working on it soon
23:47.15vhaarry
23:47.23Stanzillawhat's the current plan?
23:47.24mojosdojovhaarr: seems like it's not easily solved ;)
23:47.48vhaarrmojosdojo: it isn't indeed, not with the relationship model we have
23:48.01vhaarrStanzilla: think I'll waste time telling you?
23:48.07vhaarryou'll see when I code it
23:48.12Stanzillaok :P
23:49.25vhaarrmojosdojo: but I fixed the bosses it affected now, yogg, thorim and mimiron
23:49.41vhaarrI'd just like the convenience of "stop all except enrage" for the future
23:50.46mojosdojoyeah, pretty nasty, this case will come up again and again
23:51.09vhaarrno it won't, the convenience of having such a function will come up again and again
23:51.13vhaarrthe problem will never reappear
23:51.29vhaarrsince you made me aware of it now
23:51.35mojosdojoif you code it, yes :)
23:52.34vhaarrI always inspect the code
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