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03:08.20GnarfozTradeMark: we were doing 10man, too, I don't really see how removing impales helps us much, though (and can only do it once, too, only 1 paladin in 10man)
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03:09.00TradeMarkGnarfoz: if you remove impales going into P2 it's significantly less damage you have to deal with
03:09.18TradeMarkwould certainly help if your tanks are getting gibbed, anyway
03:09.21GnarfozTradeMark: well, yeah, I can see it helping at that specific phase
03:09.28Gnarfozbut they're getting gibbed in p1 already :\
03:09.39Gnarfozmostly when a healer gets snobolled ;D
03:09.47TradeMarkahh yeah, that's not ideal
03:09.58TradeMarkprobably doesn't help if DPS are standing in the fires either
03:10.10Gnarfozyeah, bad. :\
03:10.23Gnarfozwell, they're not standing in it, but they could completely dodge it
03:10.23TradeMarka single healer *should* be enough to keep up a tank in 10, though - assuming bolds are being killed in a timely fashion
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03:10.50GnarfozI thought we weren't doing too badly with 2 healers
03:11.11Gnarfozwhimps insisted on trying to overheal it instead of fucking learning to move, though :p
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03:12.07TradeMarkheh
03:12.28TradeMarkto be honest, 3 healers is pretty standard in more difficult content
03:13.01TradeMarkwe 3-heal ballbreaker, freya, thorim, etc
03:13.07TradeMarkhard modes I mean
03:19.03Groktar35%
03:23.23ShadowedI just found the texture position from tidy plates and used that to hide it off of aleady Gnarfoz
03:23.50GnarfozShadowed: yeah, saw that a moment later when I pulled from github^^
03:25.11GnarfozShadowed: lol, TidyPlates's "Lucky Charms" theme is amazing
03:25.35Gnarfozshould ninja install that on a tank's box and see their reaction, lol
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03:29.56rubikis anub submerge just %-based now or on a timer? permafrost doesn't stop it?
03:31.42Gnarfoz80secs
03:31.56Gnarfozand permafrost only stops the adds from burrowing
03:32.10Gnarfoz(and stops anub's chasing spikes thingy)
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03:32.44Gnarfozoh neat, faction change service going live means no more pvp server restrictions, yay
03:37.35Groktarthat's been gone for weeks
03:37.51rubikoh cool, thanks.. just noticed the 80sec BW warning so it's all good
03:41.35GnarfozGroktar: huh? any announcement on that? oo
03:42.48Groktari don't remember
03:43.02Gnarfozindeed, even on EU where faction change is not live, yet
03:43.12Groktari think it was about the same time they announced they would be allowing faction change
03:43.28Xtekweeks?
03:43.32XtekIt's been longer than weeks.
03:44.05Xtek2 months to get a race change if I did a faction change... wish they would just release race change already.
03:47.18GnarfozXtek: "near future" on the race change, so maybe it's actually gonna be...
03:47.21GnarfozSoon(tm)
03:47.21Gnarfoz:p
03:47.28Xtekyeah
03:47.36XtekI'd just like to know which is coming first.
03:47.39Xtekerr
03:47.42XtekWhich will come first.
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03:55.36Repo10n-quest-log: 03casualblair * r238 .pkgmeta: nQuestLog:
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04:28.35rubikhmm.. i feel like we're missing something in this gormok 10-hard
04:28.54rubikwe take way too long to kill all the snobolds AND him.. we have to kill the snobolds, right?
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04:31.58TradeMarkquestion: do mobs generally have a "Unit ID"? (i.e. a number or similar, not just "target", "focus", etc)
04:32.52TradeMarkbasically what I want to do, is grab the ID of the currently targetted mob, so that later I can call UnitHealth on that particular mob, even if it becomes untargetted... possible?
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04:44.18TradeMarkhrmm, large split
04:44.19TradeMarkreposts question
04:44.20TradeMarkquestion: do mobs generally have a "Unit ID"? (i.e. a number or similar, not just "target", "focus", etc)
04:44.21TradeMarkbasically what I want to do, is grab the ID of the currently targetted mob, so that later I can call UnitHealth on that particular mob, even if it becomes untargetted... possible?
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04:45.18ShefkiGUID is 0xAABCCCDDDDEEEEEE
04:45.18ShadowedTrademark: The best you can do is save the GUID and then traverse through raid#target, party#target, focustarget and hope that one of those is the GUID you want.
04:45.18TradeMarkhrmm, that sounds far from ideal
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04:45.18TradeMarkfocus may be my only option
04:45.18Shadowedsee above :p
04:45.18ShefkiAA is unknown, B unit type, CCCDDDD (pets CCCDDDD form a unique id by creation order, world objects it's the object id, unknown otherwise)
04:45.18ShefkiEEEEEEE unique id for players by creation id and spawn counter otherwise.
04:45.18Shefkiobject id would be the mob id.
04:45.19Shadowedyes
04:45.19ShadowedIt's not really something you can do consistently, it's easier to just focus the mob
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04:45.19TradeMarkjust looking at WowWiki docs, it seems to imply UNIT_HEALTH won't be fired for a change in "focus" health - is that accurate?
04:45.19ShadowedIt will fire for a change in the focus unitid
04:46.10Shefkifocus receives events normally now.
04:46.10TradeMarkI may have to perform a manually throttled UnitHealth call in OnUpdate, hrmm
04:46.10Shadowedcorrect
04:46.10ShefkiIt didn't prior to 3.0 so  you may find outdated info saying as much.
04:46.10Shadowedwell no
04:46.10TradeMarkI see
04:46.14ShadowedIf you are going to watch focus, then just use UNIT_HEALTH, if you are going to watch focustarget then you need polling
04:46.14ShefkiThen again prior to 3.0 Blizzard didn't have a focus frame and so focus existed but they didn't always send events for the unit id.
04:46.44TradeMarkShadowed: only interested in focus
04:46.44Repo10grid2: 03Azethoth * r230 RaidDebuffs/Grid2StatusRaidDebuffs.lua: -- comment out Leeching Swarm
04:46.44Shadowedthen you can use UNIT_HEALTH just fine
04:48.12ShefkiAt this point only ____target units have to be polled.
04:48.12TradeMarkexcellent :)
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06:03.02Repo10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r199 Core.lua: -refix configuration bug. I'm Sorry. t.t
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06:14.40rubikhmm.. 10m hard beasts timer on the worms incoming is off by about 10 seconds i think?
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06:40.05theoddone33anyone done heroic ToC?
06:40.14theoddone33how do you handle vassals on gormok
06:41.05Gnarfozsame as before: quickly
06:41.06Gnarfoz:D
06:42.06theoddone33I don't understand the fight really
06:42.14theoddone33they don't seem to be affected by aoe
06:42.26theoddone33and when they die it seems like they're jumping back onto gormok and he can throw them again
06:42.45theoddone33he had 5 stacks of the buff that he gets every time he throw sone
06:42.49theoddone33but he's only supposed to have four
06:43.01theoddone33this was in 10 man
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06:43.52Gnarfozbuff when he throws someone?
06:44.13Gnarfozalso, they do take damage from cleave attacks, so AoE...?
06:44.20Gnarfozand they just die :\
06:44.22theoddone33they didn't take any damage from blizzard
06:44.29Gnarfozare you sure you're playing the same fight as I am? :D
06:44.31theoddone33or flamestrike
06:44.38theoddone33or arcane explosion
06:44.48Gnarfozwhy would you blizzard or flamestrike them, though, that's a total waste of damage ;\
06:45.02Gnarfozthere's one of them up, at most 2 if you're really slow
06:45.05theoddone33I normally spam arcane explosion
06:45.08theoddone33if one is on me
06:45.14theoddone33because I can only cast instants
06:45.21theoddone33but it doesn't actually damage them
06:45.29Gnarfozwell, you're not supposed to deal with them alone
06:46.00theoddone33every time he throws out a vassal he gets a buff
06:46.06sb|workmh, not sure if you can damage the guy sitting on YOUR back
06:46.26theoddone33the buff gives him increased damage
06:46.29sb|worki don't think so
06:46.32theoddone33I think it's 15% each time
06:46.38sb|workyup, right
06:46.43sb|workso...?
06:46.47theoddone33he's doing 10k dps with 5/6 stacks
06:47.07sb|work6 stacks with only 5 snowbolds?
06:47.13theoddone33yeah exactly
06:47.15theoddone33that's why I'm confused
06:47.28theoddone33I know I saw him with 5 stacks
06:47.29sb|workwws/wmo/wol or didn't happen :p
06:47.37theoddone33he is only supposed to have 4 snobolds in 10 man but it was heroic
06:47.39theoddone33so I'm not sure
06:48.01Shefkisb|work: We all know fights are never bugged. >.>
06:48.04Gnarfoz< utterly confused now
06:48.10theoddone33anyway, we can either dps the snobolds or dps the boss
06:48.14GnarfozI can damage my own snobold just fine
06:48.17theoddone33if we dps snobolds we don't kill the boss in time
06:48.24theoddone33if we dps the boss we have problems with snobolds
06:48.26Shefki*cough*Icehowl's charge*cough*
06:48.27sb|workShefki: right, thats what i pay EUR 13 for! :P
06:48.35sb|workmh i wonder...
06:48.37Gnarfozand you have to kill snobolds or someone dies :P
06:48.45theoddone33well you can heal through it
06:48.48theoddone33it's not that much damage
06:48.56sb|workthe impale from gormokk (?) - is it a cooldown ability or a exact timed ability?
06:48.57Gnarfozno, but they like interrupting. :p
06:49.09Gnarfoz-> snobold on healers -> bye bye
06:49.10Shefkisb|work: Pretty sure it's timed.
06:49.11theoddone33yeah they make the person they're on useless
06:49.20theoddone33it's timed in heroic
06:49.28theoddone33I don't know if it is in reg, we've never run into the timer there
06:49.35Gnarfoztimer? impale? what
06:49.36sb|workShefki: mh.. then i can't see any problem with those 35k impale hits everyone is QQing about (some guild on my server) :p
06:49.44theoddone33oh sorry
06:49.48theoddone33the fight is timed
06:49.56theoddone33I don't know about impale
06:49.57Gnarfozyes, that's one of the heroic changes
06:50.01Shefkisb|work: Because there isn't anything wrong with them.
06:50.06Gnarfozimpale just does tons more damage, apparently :o
06:50.21ShefkiI'm pretty sure they're timed otherwise it'd be hard to rotate tanks.
06:50.23sb|workexact timer -> priest shield -> mitigated to 27-29k damage, no problem at all ;)
06:50.44Gnarfoz8k shield from a holy priest?
06:50.45sb|workwell i have some guys QQing that he hits too hard and whawtever...
06:50.47sb|workdisc!?!?!?
06:50.55Gnarfozwho says there's a disc priest
06:50.57ShefkiAnd the whole point of the ability is to force you to rotate tanks.
06:51.20sb|workGnarfoz: i don't care if they don't have one :p
06:51.35sb|workbut since i am disc priest i can do that ;)
06:51.36quiescensaka "uhm its a single mob but lets just make something arbitrary for the 2nd tank to do"
06:51.48Shefkiquiescens: Exactly.
06:52.04sb|workor 3rd tank actually
06:52.05Shefki"They'll need another tank for the later stuff, gotta find a way to have multiple tanks contribute."
06:52.24sb|workwell, they also QQing that the 3rd debuff ticks for 13k - so they are failing hard anyway, 3 debuffs is fail :(
06:52.25theoddone33we were using 3 tanks in our 25m heroic attempts
06:52.33theoddone33but those attempts were more or less total fail
06:53.40Shefki3 debuffs is fine for 10 man.
06:54.04ShefkiAnd frankly you can get away with 4 debuffs.
06:54.14sb|workyeah but not for 25 :p
06:54.22sb|work25 heroic
06:54.22ShefkiYou can in 25 too.
06:54.22theoddone33I don't see anything on any sites about the snobolds being immune to aoe
06:54.32theoddone33but I can't find anything in recount that actually damaged them
06:54.46sb|worktheoddone33: you can't hit your own bolds - thats it
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06:54.57sb|workno problem to AOE other snowbolds
06:54.57theoddone33no I couldn't hit any of them with blizzard
06:55.00theoddone33when there were four up
06:55.03theoddone33and the boss
06:55.27quiescensmaybe you missed!
06:55.28theoddone33living bomb explosions didn't damage t hem apparently
06:55.37sb|work4 of them...
06:55.41sb|worklike total fail? :P
06:55.50theoddone33yeah our 10m group is total fail
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06:56.09theoddone33no living bomb explosiond amage
06:56.15sb|workwell then it doesn't matter if your aoe hits, because you are not supposed to caster-aoe them :p
06:56.18theoddone33despite dot damage
06:56.25theoddone33well it limits splash damage
06:56.29theoddone33we normally drag them to the boss
06:56.46sb|workah right, so the guy also gets hit by his stomp
06:57.00theoddone33yes
06:57.05theoddone33that and so that it's easy to switch off for melee
06:57.25theoddone33the dumb thing is that cleave DID hit them
06:57.40sb|workget more spellhit imo!
06:57.52sb|worklike 300 more
06:57.53theoddone33well if anyone else does it tonight
06:58.05theoddone33and happens to be a mage
06:58.10theoddone33check if living bomb explosion damages them
07:06.54quiescenswhat if they're going for the leave snobolds alive achievement!
07:07.03sb|workin heroic? :;
07:07.05sb|work:p
07:07.46theoddone33snobolds annoy me is all
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07:08.00theoddone33they have 800k in 25m heroic or some such
07:08.08theoddone33we had everyone switch last night but then the boss doesn't die
07:08.10theoddone33it's dumb
07:08.13theoddone33gotta figure out a balance
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07:09.39sb|work800k, mhh :)
07:10.27Mikkkicks repo
07:10.51Gnarfoz<sb|work> theoddone33: you can't hit your own bolds - thats it <-- I can hit my own snobolds fine :o
07:11.08theoddone33I can cast living bomb on it
07:11.13theoddone33I just don't have many instnats
07:11.26theoddone33I guess instead of arcane explosion I should ice lance it...
07:11.27Gnarfoz(I'm a paladin, though)
07:11.43sb|workGnarfoz: mhh, blade flurry doesn't work
07:11.46quiescensstab it
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07:14.21theoddone33poor wowhead
07:14.41theoddone33dead before its time
07:15.17quiescensthere there
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07:25.46rubiktheoddone33: we just started 10-man hard ToC and were having problems with the snobolds too
07:27.13rubiktook us a few tries to get gormok down smoothly but yeah, gotta kill the snobolds quickly and then go back to gormok.. and they stop coming after a while and then you gotta burn him down.. dps check i guess
07:27.39sb|workyeah sure they stop coming - because there are only 4 :p
07:27.54rubikhaha.. really? i swear i thought we had more
07:28.13sb|workmh...
07:28.24rubikbut "only" 185k HP in 10 man so it's not too bad but seems like a lot at times especially since they seemed to be favoring our healers tonight
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07:30.15theoddone33are you sure there are four?
07:30.18theoddone33I think perhaps 5
07:30.34theoddone33his damage buff was definitely at 5x
07:30.57rubik5 sounds right.. i did notice 5 stacks of the buff too
07:32.44theoddone33we were the "b team" raid
07:32.48Fiskerslaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout
07:32.53theoddone33so I guess it's not surprising that gormok gave us so much trouble
07:33.07theoddone33even though we had "a team" healers
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07:34.26rubiki was surprised that it gave us that hard a time tbh
07:34.39asmodaigoood morning #wowace!
07:34.43[Ammo]ulic: ping
07:34.48theoddone33I'm glad it's giving us a hard time
07:34.53theoddone3325m kicked our ass
07:35.06theoddone33we're #3 horde side so that means it's kicking everyone else's ass too
07:35.25rubikwell, we can't do 25m so all we got is our 10m team
07:36.23rubiki think we're #3 10-man strict guildox rating thing on our server and like #50 in us or something? shrug
07:36.40rubikbut anyway, we basically have no 25-man gear.. hah
07:38.21theoddone33well the reg 10 man stuff is 232
07:38.29theoddone33so it's obviously expected that you can do the heroic with that level of gear
07:38.38rubikyup
07:38.43theoddone33but by ilevel I'm the best geared mage on the server
07:38.43rubikwhich is fine
07:38.54theoddone33other classes have similar standings in our guild
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07:39.07theoddone33I think it's just practice practice practice
07:39.20rubiki actually like that the 10m-hard isn't a cakewalk
07:39.27theoddone33absolutely
07:39.35rubiki'm afraid that PUG people will QQ enough and get it nerfed in a week or two though
07:39.41theoddone33I'm a little annoyed that people in guild aren't willing to push it harder
07:39.48theoddone33it will definitely get nerfed
07:39.49rubikcause i don't think a PUG can get past beasts in 10m-hard
07:40.02theoddone33premonition will down it all this week, if they haven't already
07:40.04theoddone33then they can nerf it
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07:41.33theoddone33wowprogess can't really track ToC can it?
07:41.39theoddone33there aren't individual achievements
07:42.17theoddone33well it seems to be able to
07:42.23theoddone33premo is on valkyr
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07:46.14sb|workRepo!!
07:46.17Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tributeloot/. TributeLoot. Tool to assist the Tribute loot system
07:46.56sb|worktheoddone33: maybe it can query the "kill all bosses" achievement progress
07:47.52theoddone33you're right
07:48.00theoddone33that's exposed via armory
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09:03.48asmodaicute: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2009/august/corehoundpup.jpg
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09:18.00theoddone33is EJ down for anyone else?
09:18.52Zeksiethe forum? fine here.
09:18.59theoddone33weird
09:19.03theoddone33server dies for me every time I try to reply
09:19.19Zeksiei'm just browsing it. not replying.
09:19.20theoddone33the universe is telling me that "badmammajama" should be a bad frostfire mage forever
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09:38.04sb|worktheoddone33: down for me now
09:38.15theoddone33yeah it's going in and out I think
09:38.21theoddone33wowhead has the same problem
09:38.26theoddone33I wonder if there's some ddos going on
09:38.30theoddone33hackers vs wow
09:38.45theoddone33or ensidia trying to prevent people from getting info on the new heroic fights
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09:40.20vhaarrthere won't be any info
09:40.39vhaarrelitistjerks has a no-hardmode policy in effect at the moment
09:41.21FtH|Daemonait's just the usual db3 acting up, hope that the loadbalancer directs you to another server in the cluster while you refresh
09:41.40FtH|Daemonahttp://elitistjerks.com/server.html
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10:29.18mitch0vhaarr: the last commit was for the case LDB is disembedded, did I understand that correctly? if that's the case, why don't you list LDB as OptDep?
10:29.52vhaarrnah it was for a obscure technicality when addon authors fuck up their embeds
10:30.59mitch0ah
10:31.28mitch0well, that part could be tricky sometimes
10:31.36mitch0I hate hunting down all the deps...
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10:39.09asmodaioi nevcairiel, around?
10:39.18nevcairielhalf
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10:39.39asmodainevcairiel: know of a good background article on these DDR3 speeds/timings?
10:39.54asmodainevcairiel: It seems every time I am looking for a new pc they change the bloody stuff around on memory :S
10:40.36nevcairieljust get the lowest CL thing you can find =P
10:41.44asmodaiBut preferably modules with the 166 multiplier, e.g. 1600, 1866, I guess?
10:41.57asmodaicause I spotted a 1800 as well :S
10:42.12Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5984 Plugins/RaidIcon.lua:
10:42.15RepoFix raid icon options, but it's not done yet so please don't translate.
10:42.50nevcairielI don't think thats particularly important
10:42.56nevcairielget the timings that your motherboard recommends
10:43.03nevcairielthey usually have recommendations for that
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10:51.03profalbertnevcairiel: you had a chance to look at my patch for BT4 yet?
10:51.56profalbertIt just adds LibDualSpec-support, so it's not that big a deal
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10:59.00Fiskerwhat cpu asmodai ?
11:00.22asmodaiFisker: i7
11:00.24asmodai920 one
11:00.31asmodaiat least that's what I have my eye on now
11:00.32Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5985 / (2 files in 2 directories): Remove a stray comment.
11:00.54asmodailooks like this Gigabyte motherboard supports up to 2100+ DDR3 memory.
11:01.33nevcairielFrom what i read, the high timings only allow you to install 3 modules, though.
11:01.41nevcairielat least on the gigabyte boards
11:02.13Fiskeryou need to overclock asmodai ?
11:02.15asmodainevcairiel: so that would mean I'd need 3 x 2 GB modules if I wanted to get 6 GB instead of 6 x 1
11:02.17asmodaiFisker: nah
11:02.23nevcairielprobably
11:02.27Fisker1066 is enough then
11:02.28asmodaiI prefer my boxes to remain stable.
11:02.59nevcairielI want to get 6x2 in my new box
11:03.10asmodaihas enough weird shit to debug without wondering whether or not overlocking caused any intermittent issues.
11:03.27asmodaiFisker: seriously? but doesn't that drastically cut back on memory throughput?
11:03.32nevcairieli constantly run like 2 VMs, more ram = more good
11:03.35Fiskeractually
11:03.38asmodainevcairiel: *nod*
11:03.38Fiskeri forgot
11:03.40Fiskerit's 1333
11:03.55Fiskerand no getting any higher won't do anything if you're not overclocking
11:04.11Fiskerunless you want to "overclock" to the same with a higher fsb
11:04.21Fiskeror whatever it's called now
11:05.07nevcairielmm i need something to eat
11:05.07asmodaiah, so the marketed 1866 and 2000/2100 stuff is actually 1600 or 1333 but then overclocked?
11:05.08Fiskerno
11:05.08Fiskerbut i7 runs a 1333MHz FSB
11:05.11asmodairight
11:05.15Fiskerso your memory WILL run 1333 unless you overclock it
11:05.16asmodaioh
11:05.29nevcairielYou can run cpu and mem clock async, if you want
11:05.33Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5986 Plugins/RaidIcon.lua:
11:05.36RepoReworded the description a bit, still needs external review.
11:05.37Fiskerrunning async sucks
11:06.06asmodaiI find the current market a bit confusing, since so many stuff is marketed as normal whereas it's based on OCing.
11:06.26asmodais/many/much/
11:06.33nevcairielif memory says its some timing, thats the maximum it'll run on without crashing
11:06.58nevcairielif its intended for being in a OC system .. thats another deal
11:06.58asmodaiSo better to find some decent 1333 banks with low CL timings?
11:07.23Fiskeryarr
11:07.29Fiskeror overclock like mad
11:07.30Fisker:P
11:07.50asmodaimmm
11:08.14nevcairielI dunno how the prices are, but it doesnt *hurt* to buy the mem one timing higher, just to be safe ;)
11:08.26asmodailets take OCZ
11:09.25asmodaiOCZ3X1333LV6GK
11:09.32asmodaiwhich is about EUR 136
11:09.37asmodaifor a tri kit of 6 GB
11:10.15asmodainevcairiel: when you say mem timing, you mean 1333 -> 1600, right?
11:10.24nevcairielyea
11:10.33nevcairielmem clock, i should probably say
11:10.45nevcairieltiming is usually used to refer to the CL thing
11:10.48asmodai*nod*
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11:16.59asmodainevcairiel: indeed , looking at http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/FileList/MemorySupport/mb_memory_ga-ex58-ud3r_1.6.pdf shows that all > 1333 MHz is 1 DIMM per channel.
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11:19.33Arrowmasteri bought 1333mhz ram and had to set it to 1333 in my bios or i think it would run slower than that
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11:24.22asmodaiArrowmaster: Would think it would be able to read the SPD properly
11:25.13Arrowmasterthats the thing, it can
11:25.27Arrowmasterall ram is sold higher than its recognized
11:25.49nevcairielthe SPD is on a "fallback" timing, usually slower then it can run
11:25.54Arrowmasterso yeah buy 1 speed increment higher than you intend to use
11:26.01nevcairielthe designed speed usually needs an increased voltage, too
11:26.13Arrowmasteryou cant use an increased voltage with an i7
11:26.30nevcairielwhat does the CPU care about mem voltage?
11:26.48Arrowmasteri7's will blow up with a mem voltage over 1.65v
11:27.13Arrowmastersince the memory controller is on the processor instead of the northbridge
11:27.37hasteit won't blow up
11:27.43hastebut it isn't recommended
11:27.44Arrowmasterit will stop working
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11:28.13nevcairielas long as the mem guys know that and build the moduels to run stable at a lower voltage
11:29.07Arrowmasterthey are but its still kinda bullshit that they arent programming the ram at the right speeds so you have to manually enter the stuff
11:29.23nevcairielits always been like that
11:29.31nevcairielbuy performance ram = set performance settings yourself
11:29.59asmodaithe higher voltage will significantly reduce the lifetime of the CPU  for all I know
11:30.10Arrowmasteri spent over $300 on 1gb of corsair ram for my previous computer when i built it 5 years ago, i didnt have to touch the memory settings
11:30.24asmodaiHow prices have changed
11:30.25Arrowmaster2-2-3-5 timings out of the box
11:30.28nevcairielMaybe it would've been faster if you did =P
11:30.40Arrowmasterwhich is actually faster than the box, box was 2-2-3-6
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11:31.26nevcairielThe SPD actually exports the right timings as a "performance profile", but apparently the bios doesnt pick that
11:31.26pakozsome memory has multiple SPD values
11:31.28pakozone performance
11:31.33pakozone base
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11:32.57Arrowmasternew $89 gskill ram i had to up the clock from 1066 to 1333 and lower the timings from 8-8-?-? to 7-7-?-?, dont remember the exact timings for the new ram
11:33.44Arrowmasterand it seems odd that the bios in a $400 mobo wouldnt read anything other than the base profile from the ram
11:34.00nevcairielmaybe gskill just fails
11:34.29asmodaifunny how most how performance modules all use Elpida Hyper memory chips
11:35.10Arrowmasternah i read newegg comments for tons of different 6gb kits and tons of people had to manually set the stuff for all different brands
11:35.42pakozi think the 'performance SPD' is called EPL
11:36.17pakozif the motherboard and ram both have the tech/feature
11:36.29pakozit'll clock up to the more aggressive timings
11:36.58Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07newrelease * r5988 : copy trunk
11:37.52pakozany killer nic users?
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11:38.25Arrowmasterdont waste your money
11:39.03pakozfrom what i've read wow is the only thing it seems to have improvements on due to massive network traffic
11:39.48Arrowmasternot according to pc gamer
11:39.53Funkeh`you're kidding right
11:40.02Funkeh`if you think wow has massive network traffic...
11:40.18Funkeh`it's made for 56k
11:40.37Repo10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2263 / (3 files in 3 directories): v5.07.06, Arena Season 7 items and price updates
11:40.42Zeksieit's pretty low.. but it's very intollerant of anything else going on.. if it even sniffs you downloading..
11:40.46Arrowmastercall of duty probably uses more network traffic
11:40.49Fisker56k isn't supported anymore
11:41.11Fiskeralso addons greatly increase traffic
11:41.19pakozim not trying to argue for the killer nics sake - but i've had a guildy trying to connect on 56k. he lost connection if he logged into dalaran as well as 25m raid fights or BGs
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11:41.38ArrowmasterFisker: only if your entire guild and friends list is using carbonite
11:42.00FiskerI have no control over what my guild and friends use for addons
11:42.30Arrowmasterright and theyll all still spam you with carbonite info when you dont have it
11:42.44pakoz><
11:43.03Funkeh`you sound like me when I was bitching about that DoT addon
11:43.05profalbertdoes the ignore-list also ignore addon-messages?
11:43.18Arrowmasteryes
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11:43.31ArrowmasterFunkeh`: i bitched about dotimer too
11:43.51Fiskercan't addons just gtfo if the user doesn't have a certain addon
11:43.52Fisker?
11:44.06Arrowmasterwas still getting spamed the fuck by it even after the sync was disabled by default
11:44.29FiskerMaybe Blizzard should implement listeners
11:44.36asmodaiFunkeh`: it was blizzard themselves who complained about network traffic XD
11:44.39FiskerSo you have to subscribe to an addon to get it's commchannel
11:46.12Zeksiei'd go for that.
11:46.31Zeksieserver side filtering
11:46.34Fiskersuggest it!
11:46.40FiskerAnd remember to give me CREDITS
11:49.23ElkanoSomeone should just write an addon that will inject corrupted data into carbonite if it spams you ;)
11:49.29Zeksieheh
11:49.34Zeksiei like it!
11:50.14asmodaicarbonite, that's that commercial quest addon, right?
11:50.32Zeksie50,000 randomly placed mining nodes per zone.. go!
11:51.02profalbertnot commercial anymore
11:51.05digmousecarbonite is free now
11:51.28profalbertBlizzard prohibits commercial addons now
11:51.46Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07oldtrunkcopy * r5989 : svn copy r5890
11:51.49Toadkilleranandtech has a good article on how useless the killer nic cards are
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11:53.17Zeksiebut.. it looks cool!
11:53.33Toadkillerwell then buy it
11:53.40Stanzillawtf are you doing Funkeh` :P
11:53.47Zeksienever said i wanted one..
11:53.50Funkeh`your mother
11:54.02Stanzillawtb better answer
11:54.15Funkeh`your father?
11:54.28Stanzillanext!
11:56.24Toadkilleryour uncle
11:57.03Funkeh`can you feel, the love, tonight?
11:57.23Toadkillerwait, there was a question?
12:01.13Stanzillayes :(
12:04.43Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r5990 Coliseum (2 files in 1 directory): deDE update
12:08.45Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5991 / (5 files in 2 directories): koKR Update
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12:19.37KazieIs there a testmode for Recount?
12:20.01Wobintestmode?
12:20.11KazieYes..
12:20.26KazieLike in omen where it shows a lot of bars so you can adjust the addon to your liking and preference
12:20.46Wobinnot afaik. You just size the window as you prefer
12:21.46KazieOh well.. do you know if there's a "grow option" in recount then? .. one will resize the hight according to the number of players shown?
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12:22.44WobinHave a look in the options, but I've never seen one... also... the number of players 'shown' depends on how big you stretch the window...
12:23.28Kazieyea, the reason i ask is that i just made my kgpanel resize along with my omens growth.. would be nice if i could do that with recount as well so it doesn't take more space than necessary :P
12:24.37Wobinbut recount is completely different to Omen
12:24.49Wobinin that you'll either have 5, 10 or 25 players on it at any time =P
12:25.22KazieI think i'm gonna make it for 8 ppl then
12:26.52Repo10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r205 WotLK/Coliseum.lua: --Update : Light Touch, Dark Touch
12:26.55Repo--Remove : Touch of Jaraxxus, Curse of Nether
12:28.35sb|work1 is enough, if you aren't there - dps harder!
12:29.08Wobinkinda true. The top 5 are really what you're after unless you're the raid leader
12:29.42Kaziesb|work: so very true.. but i often lead raids and pugs so i want to know if someone is not up to snuff
12:31.07Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07oldtrunkcopy * r5992 / (37 files in 5 directories): update all the modules
12:32.00Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07newrelease * r5993 : delete
12:32.20Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07release * r5994 : delete
12:32.53Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r5995 branches/ (2 files in 2 directories): rename branch
12:38.23Arrowmasterjust switch to git and end your branch hell
12:38.50vhaarrthere's no hell, funky has just never branched before
12:39.02Arrowmasteroh hes in hell then
12:39.11vhaarrhe's be up shit creek with git
12:39.14vhaarrhe'd*
12:39.40Arrowmasteryeah but atleast he would find people willing to help him
12:40.13Arrowmasternobody here is willing to help with svn branches
12:41.13Wobin><
12:41.17Wobingoddamn svn branching
12:42.39mitch0that was indeed a stupid decision not to include an "svn branch" and "svn tag" command that'd just do the "common thing"
12:43.01mitch0but writing a small shell script to do that is trivial
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12:43.06Arrowmasteror have sane branching?
12:43.17Arrowmasteror sane merging?
12:43.23mitch0there's nothing really wrong with how svn handles branching
12:43.28mitch0merging is a different topic :)
12:44.15mitch0but git merging could be just as painful if you don't know enough about the gotchas
12:44.51vhaarrI don't see why you bother discussing it, we all know git is superior in many ways, but svn does exactly what we need so why the fuck should we change
12:46.35mitch0they're just happy with their new shiny gizmo ;)
12:47.05mitch0I could go on how opera is far superior in many ways than firefox, yet I won't have much success convincing ff users
12:47.22mitch0perhaps s/than/to/  
12:47.23vhaarrthe only thing that matters is that you don't use IE
12:47.38mitch0ff is the new IE!
12:47.43mitch0:)
12:47.53vhaarrand there's just one reason for that; malware authors target the most distributed platform
12:48.25Repo10shunkit: 03LaoTseu 04v30200-1-beta-03 * r17 : Tagging as v30200-1-beta-03
12:48.57mitch0ff is distributed?
12:49.12mitch0ff cluster ftw
12:49.26mitch0man I'm bad at this
12:51.25Arrowmasterhttp://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25118
12:55.23mitch02/10
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12:57.37Arrowmasteryeah i think Fisker would like him
12:57.51Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5890-2-release * r5996 :
12:57.54RepoBackport all the module updates, none of the ace3 updates are included as they are still alpha - releasing.
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13:06.32mitch0I bet it's all broken as obviously you can't merge and branch and whatnot in svn
13:07.05KazieAnyone with some knowledge of LuaText who can help me here?: http://paste.wowace.com/1067/ it returns this: PitBull4_LuaTexts:PLayer:Kazie_Health_Player caused the following error: bad argument #3 to 'SetFormattedText' (string expected, got nil)
13:07.36Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5997 Plugins/RaidIcon.lua: Make the second icon work.
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13:08.14Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r5998 Plugins/RaidIcon.lua:
13:08.17RepoReturn if the icon is disabled, don't force set it to skull.
13:08.29mitch0kazie: seems like your 'n' ends up nil
13:08.47yoshimovhaarr , updated translations for bw.-modules still go to mainline/trunk only, dont they?
13:08.52vhaarryoshimo: ye
13:08.55Kazieif i remove one %s and ,away it works perfectly .. but it should with it too to my knowledge :s
13:08.58mitch0or 'away' does
13:09.14mitch0local away = AFK(unit) or DND(unit) or ""
13:09.17mitch0try that
13:09.44mitch0although you'd have an extra (probably unvanted) space in there ('cos of the format string)
13:09.45KazieYea.. i just found out it returned an error because i wasn't AFK or DND :)
13:10.18KazieUnwanted space ? .. "%s %s" <-- that?
13:10.41steevhmm
13:10.57steevwell at one point, the game was saving my achievement tracking between sessions, now it doesn't seem to be anymore
13:12.31Kaziemitch0: thanks :) with the or "" it works like a dream .. it's my second script ever with anything close to pure lua hehe so i'm still missing alot of simple solutions :)
13:14.00WobinPS... what is LuaText?
13:14.37mitch0the new shiny thing in that killed DogTags
13:14.43mitch0s/in//
13:15.00mitch0purl: go eat pie
13:15.11haste~botsnack
13:15.11purlhaste: :)
13:15.20yoshimovhaarr, in the lord jaraxxus module , engagetrigger1 isnt needed anymore, is it?
13:18.46Kaziemitch0: it's more complicated, but i like despite my limited understanding of it :)
13:19.06KazieAs long as people around is willing to help people learn it's cool :)
13:26.06FtH|Daemonaanyone know an addon that will direct you to all places where you miss a rare mob kill? for achievements like bloody rare?
13:27.14ElkanoI don't know if SilverDragon comes with buildin data
13:27.30Elkanobtw, Dawmona, congrats :)
13:28.18asmodaioh? you now beat it Dae?
13:29.27ElkanoFtH|Daemona -> http://www.wowace.com/addons/silver-dragon/
13:30.38FtH|Daemonadoes it support routes? ;)
13:30.43yoshimothere is rarespawn overlay that colours the spawnareas on your map
13:31.21YewZZZlol my younger brother said this: I thought I needed to pee but I didn't but then I had to fart so I farted and that made me pee my pants.
13:31.31yoshimoand i used npcscan which seems to be similar to silverdragon
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13:31.47FtH|Daemonayeah using _npcscan too
13:31.59FtH|Daemonabut not having to know the spawn spots of the mobs is a nice add
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13:36.39vhaarryoshimo: I dunno
13:37.50Elkanobtw, would it be possible in that module to remove the raidicon once the char has been healed over the debuff?
13:38.18Kaelten~seen stormfx
13:38.21purlKaelten: i haven't seen 'stormfx'
13:38.31Kaeltenhrm I thought storm hung out on irc some
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13:39.08vhaarrElkano: that's not done? I'll fix that indeed
13:39.30vhaarrElkano: bigwigs doesn't mark that person
13:39.40vhaarr(I just checked)
13:39.46Elkanowell, I'm not sure if it was BW or DBM or whatever that marked
13:39.53vhaarrprobably dbm, they mark everything
13:39.57Elkanowell, then add it ^^
13:40.01vhaarruseless mark
13:40.09vhaarrwe mark the legion flame target instead
13:40.32Yewbaccawow....
13:40.39YewbaccaI got an email with this title: Zieg heil, man!
13:40.42Yewbaccathe spammers are getting serious
13:41.03YewbaccaI need to use that as a greeting more often
13:41.09YewbaccaSounds so casual yet like you mean business
13:42.41asmodaiToo bad they can't spell.
13:42.49asmodais/Zieg/Sieg
13:42.49YewbaccaIt was viagra though, as usual
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13:43.32Yewbacca"When your bed enthusiasm is at near-zero level, you need something to boost it! The only two things you lose are: - You lose your $1 for every pill you buy (costs like a cup of coffee!) - You say goodbye to your problems with ladies.You should try it, man!"
13:43.40Yewbaccathat's what it said. Damn they are getting better at english
13:45.33YewbaccaIf you ever register your own domain, the first thing you should do in the WHOIS info is remove your email. It didn't even cross my mind that spammers would be crawling whois registries and capturing hundrds of milions of emails
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13:49.38RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/juggycompare/. JuggyCompare. tsigo (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Kaelten.
13:50.28sb|work@describe juggycompare
13:50.29Reposb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/juggycompare/. JuggyCompare. In-game Loot Factor (DKP) comparisons for Juggernaut
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13:55.12YewbaccaHmm wait a minute, "start a brand new life with a brand new bigger pen*s", isn't that kinda false marketing? How is it new? Unless they chop it off an infant I don't think they're truthful
13:55.41YewbaccaAnd if they did that, that'd be quite an insult if an infant had a bigger one than you
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14:03.36KazieIs there any way to adjust Pitbull4 Texts a few pixels beside the Location feature?
14:04.39sztanpetthe ability to relocate texts is comming very soon
14:06.07Kaziesounds good, i'm going crazy over "outside-bottomleft" and others that are misplaced a few pixels it really annoys me hehe
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14:08.00steevkicks curse.com's autocompletion
14:09.04Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r5999 Coliseum (3 files in 1 directory): koKR Update
14:09.05kenlyricYewbacca: if you haven't seen it before, it's new to you!
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14:09.20YewbaccaHahaha, that's a very good point ken
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14:18.56Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6000 / (2 files in 2 directories):
14:18.59RepoAdd a :Primary and :SecondaryIcon API to the prototype and port Vezax to use it.
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14:34.52KazieCan anyone tell me what ' ' means in LuaText?
14:35.22vhaarrit's a space
14:35.32steevbleh
14:36.08KazieOkay, thanks.
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14:39.24mitch0eh
14:43.07sylvanaarMikk or Arrowmaster since you are both in this thread http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17035 what do you guys think about what i posted?
14:45.20sylvanaarvhaarr if I wanted to collect the errors that buggrabber is catching. is there a 'right' way to do it? should I just do something similar to bugsack>
14:46.37vhaarrsylvanaar: ye you listen to the callback
14:47.08vhaarrBugGrabber_BugGrabbed
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14:48.00sylvanaarok - its been a while - but does bugsack delete the bugs from bugrabber, or leave em there
14:48.41sylvanaarill go look rq to refresh my memory
14:49.02vhaarrbugsack and violation are next on my list to fix up after bigwigs
14:49.22vhaarrbugsack still uses dewdrop but is otherwise ace3
14:49.30vhaarrviolation is still completely ace2
14:49.46sylvanaarwell, i have this project i have wanted to do for the past year involving error reporting
14:50.30sylvanaarmostly about getting the information about errors to the people who need it
14:51.17vhaarrbugsack can toggle saving or not
14:52.00vhaarrthe default is to store the last 1000 errors in the savedvars
14:52.12vhaarrwith old entries automatically deleted when it exceeds 1000
14:52.40vhaarrsylvanaar: bugsack can send groups of errors to other bugsack users on your server
14:52.52vhaarrwhich is frankly the most useful part of the addon
14:52.53sylvanaarvhaarr i know - thats a cool feature
14:52.59vhaarrvery
14:53.15vhaarrevery patch we use that in our guild to help people resolve stuff
14:53.31vhaarranyway cooking dinner
14:56.32KazieI was wondering.. Classification, doesn't all NPC's have classification or is it only rares, rare-elites and elites?
14:56.39RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/faction-transfer-analyzer/. Faction Transfer Analyzer. Ackis (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis.
14:57.18Kazievery nice addon Ackis :)
14:57.40sylvanaari think if we can get  a critical mass of authors/testers to participate - this might actually get off the ground
14:58.03AckisKazie: eh if I get it off the ground it'll be ice
14:58.05Ackis*nice
14:58.14KazieNice idea then :)
14:58.36Repo10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r94 / (2 files in 1 directory): so long nolibs and thanks for all the fish!
14:58.55KazieDo you need to actually purchase a faction-change to test it or is it just giving you the info for your class or how does it work?
14:59.13Zeksiegive it a command line, it'll rarely be run, so would suit an AddonLoader /cmd
14:59.53Ackisidea is to give you info on how your character will be changed should you swap factions
15:00.25Zeksieyeh. i get that. but it's not something you'll want to run all the time. it's more an on-demand query
15:00.32KazieI plan on swapping my BE paladin to HUman female once faction changes hit EU.. i'll gladly test it at the time
15:00.35Zeksiejust thinking out loud
15:00.45ZeksieKazie: she'll look fat
15:00.52Zeksiehumans are so.... plump
15:01.01AckisZeksie: was just answer Kazie's question lol and yah I plan to have it on a slash command
15:01.08KazieWell.. i'm sick and tired of the underscaled weapons on female BEs
15:01.23Zeksiei dunno. Runeedge looks decent.
15:01.41Zeksiebetter than them scraping 3 feet under the floor.
15:02.25KazieOff course, but honestly.. female blood elf 2-handers are sometimes smaller than other races 1handers.. it's just rediculous
15:03.27Zeksiehmpph.. remember the daggers from BWL/AQ.. 3 times the size they needed to be.
15:04.20KazieI know.. nasty assassination rogues on the look.. but that didn't go for all daggers tho.. on Female blood elves it goes for ALL 2-handers.
15:04.24AckisI figure for the gui stuff for it, if I just pop up a frame with text which you can copy and paste that should suffice eh?
15:05.40Zeksieummm. dunno. i give a sync'd list option too.
15:05.40KazieI wouldn't imagin a colorbook to tell me what's going to happen to my mounts, spells, reputations and whatnot.
15:05.40Zeksiecos some things will be missing entirely. (reps etc).
15:05.41Zeksiedo like a diff
15:05.55Zeksie* changed    - removed
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15:18.09Fiskerslaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout
15:18.19Zeksiehush you
15:18.49Zeksieafk! sleeping for 2 hours before raid.. totally failed at it last nite.
15:19.11Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r598 Dalaran/The_Violet_Hold.lua: Attempt to fix timer between portals after a wipe
15:24.37Ackis!apie GetFactionInfo
15:24.43Ackis!api GetFactionInfo
15:24.45lua_botGetFactionInfo: Returns information about a faction or header listing (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetFactionInfo)
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15:44.50steevhah
15:44.55steevso i'm standing in org
15:45.01steevthe queue pops for strand
15:45.13steevi hit enter... and the game tells me I can't do that when I'm dead
15:45.29Repo10faction-transfer-analyzer: 03Ackis 07master * ddb65d3 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +6 commits] (2 truncated)
15:45.32Repoddb65d3: Will print out a few factions from Horde -> Alliance
15:45.35Repo1a5f81a: Sort the horde factions.
15:45.46Repo1ec0547: Add faction scanning.
15:45.46Repo08fa651: Add skeleton for code. /fta is the slash command.
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15:50.02durcynthat is the technical definition of "having no life", i don't see the problem.
15:50.26WobinDeath is Nature's way of telling you to slow down
15:51.51Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r256 modules/Cooldowns.lua:
15:51.54Repodetect cooldowns frmo the combat log as well. Combatlog should always be faster than comm, so comm will override the combatlog spawned bar just fine
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16:08.06sylvanaarsteev were you dead?
16:08.36Fiskerstop being so dead steev
16:09.51Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6001 Plugins/RaidIcon.lua:
16:09.54RepoRename to Primary and Secondary icons instead of First/Second.
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16:17.30ulicvhaarr: will modules be able to pick which icon to use for a specific event?  Or will it just use the first one that isn't in use currently?
16:17.36MikkI was thinking about combatlog parsing again. And how it would be nice with a demultiplexer.
16:17.49MikkBut how safe pcalling is probably too much of a load.
16:17.52vhaarrulic: :PrimaryIcon, :SecondaryIcon
16:17.58uliccool
16:18.20Repo10faction-transfer-analyzer: 03Ackis 07master * bdd1f0d FactionTransferAnalyzer.lua: [+2 commits]
16:18.23Repobdd1f0d: Fix table.wipe
16:18.26Repodfc72bb: Convert all factions to names.
16:18.54vhaarr:Icon is there still for compat, it's essentially :PrimaryIcon
16:19.18ulicmakes sense
16:19.53MikkAnd then I was thinking that it would/should be possible to just keep state during dispatching, so that if something indeed does blow up, you could catch it on the next event/onupdate, and keep dispatching to others - possibly entering a pcalling mode.
16:20.30ulicCan't think of an instance right now that LittleWigs would need more than one icon though.  Blizzard tends not to do mean things to more than one player at a time in 5-man encounters :)
16:20.42sylvanaarMikk you can use queues instead of direct dispatching
16:21.18Mikksylvanaar: quite, it would behave like a queue. except not with a very queue-ey data structure.
16:22.37sylvanaarwell, you could avoid pcalling if you were given a frame reference - to signal that there was data you could just show the frame - it'd work like a callback
16:24.18sylvanaarie. listeners would each have a thier own frame
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16:26.30Repo10faction-transfer-analyzer: 03Ackis 07master * b01e3d8 FactionTransferAnalyzer.lua: [+2 commits]
16:26.32Repob01e3d8: Change scope of ParseReps.
16:26.35Repob219611: Correct spelling errors.
16:27.53sylvanaarreally i guess it works more like a semaphore wait
16:29.49sylvanaarbut the upside would be all your dispatching would be very fast since no processing could occur until you finished dispatching
16:32.06sylvanaarand all you would be doing is adding entries to tables, and possibly calling :show on some frames
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16:34.11sylvanaarMikk btw - did you read my post in the "get more testers" thread? Oh - and did you ever get anywhere with that Alts in the guild notes idea you had.
16:35.25MikkAlts in guildnotes... err define "anywhere". Chatter's AltNames module looks for names of characters in the guildnote and assumes it's an alt still.
16:35.45MikkBut no I wasn't arsed to think up how to push settings for that to the guildinfo
16:35.53Mikk(Or rather grab from there)
16:35.56jnwhitehMikk: ping re my email :P
16:36.49Mikkjnwhiteh: not off the top of my head, no.
16:37.29jnwhitehkk
16:37.34sylvanaarMikk i think you had mentioned storing the pattern in the guild notes
16:37.54MikkYeah but i never got around to implementing the pattern or anything :P
16:38.01Mikkit's still rock stupid :P
16:38.21steevsylvanaar: i was not dead
16:38.32steevi was standing near the AH...
16:39.31sylvanaarsteev are you horde? (I ask - because Its possible to be on that quest that phases you out)
16:40.13sylvanaarthe alliance's is called 'the battle for undercity'
16:40.43Gnarfoz@describe faction-transfer-analyzer
16:40.45RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/faction-transfer-analyzer/. Faction Transfer Analyzer. Assist you with faction transfers letting you know which mounts, spells, etc you have and what they will be swapped to.
16:41.00sylvanaari was on it for almost 8 months, and never knew until i tried to go to RFC and saw that ogrimarr was empty
16:41.02sztanpethah
16:41.34sylvanaarMikk the idea?
16:41.50ulicI had the same probably only worse, I was trying to do the faction bosses achievement and could fight in UC & Org :)
16:42.00sylvanaarulic lol
16:42.16ulicit took me a while to figure out what was going on.
16:42.35ulicgood news is you still get kill credit and can't be killed yourself :)
16:42.42sylvanaarnoone could attack me *UNLESS* i used my mammmot mount
16:42.51sylvanaarreally
16:42.55sylvanaarthats so hax
16:43.27sylvanaari never tried, but wondered what would happen if i put passengers in my mount and rode in
16:44.27ulicI tried to do RFC while on it, but blizzard fixed it so you can't zone in.
16:44.43yoshimowhen we did the achievement the whole server crashed because 3 full raids + alliance defending + npcs were more than the server could handle :) was fun
16:45.06ulicreminds me of the AQ gate days.
16:45.30sylvanaarMikk all it needs is a format. like @ALTS=(P|O),"patstring"@
16:45.53Mikksylvanaar: you're assuming that the only info you want to push is the pattern :P
16:46.09sylvanaarMikk i am, you are right
16:46.34yoshimoi was leveling during the aq gate event and asked myself why there are so many bugs and spiders with a level way too high for that area in feralas ;)
16:46.38sylvanaarMikk i guess, there could be rank
16:46.58MikkWhen I was thinking through possible requirements
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16:48.59MikkI basically came to the conclusion that for each rank you want to be able to set:  1) Scan this rank for main names?   2) A pattern, or whether to just look for known player names    3) Whether to use the whole note if the pattern/playername search does not match  
16:49.16sylvanaar-incude/exclude by rank, -include/exclude by pattern
16:50.29MikkPOSSIBLY distilled down to setting pattern/playername search globally. And then having Enable/Pickwhole per rank.
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16:51.15sylvanaari see
16:51.25Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat * r110 EnsidiaFails.lua: added Anub'arak impale
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16:51.56Fiskerzomg vhaarr it's over 9000
16:51.56Repo10ensidiafails: 03Maat 043.0.1 * r111 : Tagging as 3.0.1
16:55.00sylvanaarmikk @ALTS=(R1,R2)&"(%s)",(R3)&"Alt of (%s)"@
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16:58.53Mikksylvanaar: was thinking more along the lines of multiple lines of "@ALTS:1-5:N" (for known playernames)   "@ALTS:7:P="(%s)'s Alt"
16:59.22Mikkerm whoups missing the PickWhole
16:59.29KazieIn LuaText how do i make a locak that will have PowerColor() find the color of a given power_type automatically?
16:59.32Kazielocal*
16:59.54Mikk"@ALTS:1-5:N,W"    "@ALTS:7:P="(%s)' Alt",W"
17:00.24sylvanaarMikk looks good - what does the whole part do?
17:00.43sylvanaarlets you have their alt's name "foo'
17:00.46MikkIf, in that rank, the pattern (or "find player name") does not find a match, you just take the whole note
17:00.49sylvanaar"foo's alt"
17:00.53MikkYou'd typically use it on an "Alt" rank
17:00.55MikkAnd nowhere else
17:01.33MikkA well-maintained guildnote system doesn't need it of course
17:01.34sylvanaarbecause that rank was for players in another guild
17:01.38sylvanaar?
17:02.09MikkBut if like us you have comedian officers that sticks "Leroinatorswankerpants" as the guildnote
17:02.17MikkYou kinda need it :P
17:02.31MikkOr "Mikhastoomanyalts"
17:03.42sylvanaargotcha
17:04.44sylvanaaryou need if for misspelled notes
17:04.55Mikkthat too
17:05.00sylvanaaror shortened ones
17:05.02Mikkthat too
17:05.04sylvanaarlike sylv
17:05.37MikkA system that rips info out for more computational stuff might not ever want to listen to the "W" flag
17:05.42MikkBut when it's just for display - sure
17:05.52sylvanaarsilly notes area always filtered out since there are no players with those names
17:07.06MikkIn our guild, it'd be "Look for playernames, otherwise use whole note" for the "Alts" rank.  And for the officer/RL ranks it would be "Look for playernames".
17:07.18sylvanaarright
17:07.36MikkIn other guilds, they'd use a pattern e.g. "Blah's Alt". Because they stick info like "Friend of Blah" in notes.
17:07.56durcynthat Blah guy is pretty popular
17:08.14sylvanaarer, so you'd need multiple patterns possibly
17:08.41Mikkyou think?
17:09.12sylvanaarif they used "Foo's alt" and "Alt of Foo" in the same rank
17:09.19Mikkthen they need to be slapped imnsho
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17:09.34MikkJust Fix The Notes
17:10.27sylvanaarok, so letting them define 1..N @ALT.....@ entries in their guild notes for patterns to match alts
17:10.55MikkWhoups, dinner's ready. Back in 20-30. PM me that so i remember
17:12.04sylvanaarwhere @ALTS:[ranks]:(N|<pattern>)[:W]@
17:19.10Repo10postal: 03Xinhuan * r263 Modules/BlackBook.lua:
17:19.13RepoMost other addons aren't hooking properly and do not pass in "editbox" at all, so we just call it directly instead.
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17:19.26sylvanaar@ALTS:(N|W)[<pattern>][:r1[-r2]@
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17:19.36Reposylvanaar: Error: Missing "]".  You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
17:19.47sylvanaarR-O-F-L
17:20.11sylvanaarwhats funny is repo is right
17:20.21sylvanaar@ALTS:(N|W)[<pattern>][:r1[-r2]]@
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17:23.04sb|workuhm
17:23.12sb|workis northrend beasts heroic timed?
17:23.23sb|workso after 2.5 min p2?
17:23.45Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6002 Coliseum/Beasts.lua: Bugfix.
17:23.50vhaarr3min
17:29.47Funkeh`FUCK
17:29.50Funkeh`I totally forgot
17:29.57Funkeh`I wanted 6k vhaarr !
17:30.38sylvanaark what
17:31.05Funkeh`lol dude the revision
17:31.23sylvanaaroh lol
17:33.43sylvanaarwonders if he hooks editbox correctly
17:34.01sylvanaaror even at all
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17:38.51Ackisany german speaking people here/
17:38.57sylvanaarkein
17:39.05Gnarfozvhaarr: the "put the spell description in the config" automagic thingy seems kind of confused by the Northrend Beasts entry for Gormok's "impale", it shows "requires Polearms" ^^
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17:39.11StanzillaAckis: deine mama :>
17:39.12Gnarfozdon't tell me that's what you just fixed
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17:40.15YssarilAckis: <-- i can
17:40.30sylvanaarStanzilla do you have mom jokes, deine Mutter ist so dick
17:40.54Stanzillasie hat ne eigene postleitzahl, yup yup :p
17:41.03Yssarillol
17:41.11Megalonblutgruppe nutella!
17:42.44vhaarrGnarfoz: could it be a hint?
17:42.45sylvanaarlol
17:43.32Gnarfozvhaarr: hm? no, I'm guessing it's thinking of the warrior talent "impale" ... which requires polearms
17:43.44vhaarrGnarfoz: (he can be disarmed)
17:43.55GnarfozI know...?
17:44.07vhaarryes so what's the problem with the description
17:44.11Gnarfozhm, so it's the spell's actual description? meh.
17:44.33Gnarfozwell, it's rather much on the side of "don't hold the user's hands" imho
17:44.35Gnarfoz;>
17:44.41vhaarreh?
17:44.52vhaarrwe never said that
17:45.09sylvanaardeine Mutter ist so dick .. ihre Abbildung hat von der Wand gefallen
17:45.47sylvanaardid i get that right?
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17:46.58vhaarrGnarfoz: there's a difference between helping the user as much as possible and presuming to teach him strategy and tactics
17:46.58asmodaihat? would expect ist
17:46.59Yssarilnope :P
17:47.25yoshimoshould be " ist" instead of "hat" sylvanaar
17:47.28asmodai\o/
17:47.32Gnarfozvhaarr: fair enough
17:47.33vhaarrI can't imagine why you'd -possibly- be opposed to these description
17:47.36sylvanaarhast
17:47.38vhaarrGnarfoz: why, can you explain?
17:47.39Yssariland would probabaly say Bild instead of Abbildung
17:47.51vhaarrGnarfoz: I think you're looking for things to complain about
17:47.57vhaarrbecause this is complete nonsense
17:47.58Gnarfozvhaarr: no, I was probably just mistaking the "hint" by Blizzard as a mistake on part of the addon :)
17:48.02Gnarfozvhaarr: no? lol :)
17:48.10Gnarfozvhaarr: if I were, I'd stop using alphas :P
17:48.14asmodaisylvanaar: Ihre Abbildung ist von der Wand gefallen.
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17:48.29asmodaiBut it's a bit weak.
17:48.32vhaarrGnarfoz: I blindly scan the spell tooltip and present the last line as a description
17:48.40sylvanaarthat sounds transliterated
17:48.43vhaarrand that's all there is to it
17:49.04Gnarfozvhaarr: ah, I thought it's just the entire tooltip, that was a wrong assumption (didn't look at the actual code because I'm in the middle of a raid)
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17:49.52sylvanaarsie fallen, sie hat gefallen?
17:50.06sylvanaaroh right
17:50.08asmodaisie sind gefallen?
17:50.16sylvanaarno
17:50.49asmodaisie ist gefallen
17:51.12asmodaiAber Ich habe ganz in vielen Jahren kein Deutsch mehr geredet.
17:51.19sylvanaardie Abbildung hast gefallen
17:51.34Yssarildie abbildung ist geffallen :P
17:51.51sylvanaarpast tense?
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17:52.07Yssarilyup
17:52.27asmodaiGuess I can still save myself when I am in Germany XD
17:52.37Yssaril<-- my german spelling sucks since i havent written anything in it for years but i speak it daily
17:52.37sylvanaar'your mom is so fat, her picture fell off the wall'
17:53.34YssarilDeine Mutter is so dick, dass ihr Bild von der wand gefallen ist.
17:53.42Yssarilthats how i would translate it
17:54.01asmodaiIt's a weak insult in German anyway.
17:54.06Yssarilyea
17:54.30sylvanaarmom jokes are a weak insult here too
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17:56.09sylvanaarits been 15+ years since i studied german - i always wanted to live there someday - but as you can see... i dont... oh well.. it sucks to be me
17:56.26asmodailives next to the Germies
17:56.34sylvanaar(that last part was a reference to a musical)
17:56.38Yssarilasmodai: btw you wont need german to survive in germany :P almost everyone will understand english (at least enough to get your point across) :P
17:57.07asmodaiYssaril: I know. But I found the level of English to be significantly lower than people in my own country (NL)
17:57.09NeoTronas opposed to France
17:57.16asmodaiFrance is even worse.
17:57.21NeoTronwhere if you don't know French you'll get lynched
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17:57.33sylvanaarmy uncle is CPO of Deutche Bank, the offical language of the Deutche Bank is English
17:57.37asmodaiNeoTron: Well, not that bad. Just pays off to try French first and then switch. ;)
17:57.43Gnarfozexcept that it's Deutsche Bank ;P
17:57.51Yssarili would say french people understand and can speak english they jsut think that they are better and wont do it :P
17:57.53sylvanaarironic
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17:58.35NeoTronYssaril: my experience with the English skills of the French is that they have absolutely horrible pronounciation
17:58.45NeoTronto the degree that it's very hard to understand
17:58.57Yssarilagreed
17:59.01NeoTronand this experience comes with talking to a French teacher... ENGLISH teacher
17:59.18NeoTronas in the person that teachers other frenchies how to speak
17:59.37sylvanaari just think they bitter about losing during the age of imperialism
17:59.43NeoTronalthough it does very clearly explain why they speak so badly if the teachers are worse than I was in 5th grade :P
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18:03.33Yssarilasmodai: as to NL people speaking enlish better than germans i would assume that this is because NL is alot smaller as such tends to interact with its neightbors more for commerce etc (could be wrong though)
18:03.59asmodaiYssaril: And we don't dub English series/movies/etc
18:04.13Yssarilhehe
18:04.16asmodaiI vividly remember Jean-Luc Picard going: Energie
18:04.33asmodaiinstead of 'engage'
18:04.51sylvanaaror that they are sort of like Mac...stylish, but not common enough that everyone writes software for it
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18:05.58sylvanaarbut enought people so they feel like they should
18:06.12sylvanaarhow about that analogy
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18:07.02Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r257 modules/Cooldowns.lua:
18:07.05Repofix display errors when changing settings before the display has been created.
18:07.27MrRuben5I'd rather have English software then Dutch software, but that is just me.
18:07.36MrRuben5<- dutch, obviously
18:08.01[Ammo]oh boy invasion of the lage landen
18:09.41MrRuben5geef acht!
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18:11.56steevffffffffffffff uuuuuuuuuuuuu
18:12.09steev3 hours in the f'n queue and then the battle starts and only 4 alliance show up
18:15.19Gnarfozvhaarr: I'm not trying to annoy you or start a fight, when you said "the last line of the spell tooltip", do you mean the white text? because for Impale there's quite some yellow text describing the actual effect of the attack... not that it would be necessary for that to be there, just curious now =)
18:15.27Gnarfoz(twin val'kyr incoming, whee)
18:16.57NeoTronasmodai: in SWeden only kids movies are dubbed
18:17.06NeoTronand usually are available undubbed for the non-kids :P
18:17.16NeoTrondubbing is just pure evil
18:17.28Repo10ora3: 03Ammo 04r258-beta * r258 : Tagging as r258-beta
18:17.34asmodaidet aer det
18:17.40asmodaianyway, got to jet
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18:19.27Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07release * r6003 Prototype.lua: bugfix in prototype
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18:21.28ThiefMasterhi, what's the reason for bigwigs showing lots of "other" messages after the last update? (deDE client)
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18:22.28vhaarrbecause it was fucked
18:22.38vhaarrFunkeh` will release again in a few minutes
18:22.40Funkeh`elaboration at it;s best
18:22.46[Ammo]it got anal raped by a rabid gorilla
18:23.08Funkeh`It will be re-relased once I intergate the latest coli stuff
18:27.37taledenping Shefki
18:28.43Gnarfozpong taleden
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18:29.17taledenPitbull has had reports of invisible text in multiline edit boxes, right?  (tickets 438, 566, maybe others)
18:29.55Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07release * r6004 Coliseum (5 files in 1 directory): Coliseum: update modules
18:32.52Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5890-3-release * r6005 : bugfixes + latest modules
18:34.59taledenbueller?
18:41.26Shefkitaleden: Yes?
18:41.44taledenwas just wondering about the invisible text in multiline edit boxes issue
18:41.58taledenPitbull seems to have a few reports, and I do too, and I wonder if it's an AceOptions or AceGUI problem
18:42.09ShefkiGonna bet AceGUI
18:42.17taledenhave you talked to those folks about it?
18:42.36ShefkiI think I've mentioned it before.
18:43.15taledenI didn't see an existing ticket for it, figured I'd ask before posting one
18:43.27taledenand wanted to confirm that Pitbull uses AceGUI to create those boxes
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18:49.27steevoh spiffy
18:49.29steevhttp://www.go-mono.com/monovs/
18:51.02Shefkitaleden: We use AceConfig which uses AceGUI
18:51.11taledenme too
18:51.24ShefkiI've never been able to replicate it.
18:51.30ShefkiFor all I know it could be a Blizzard bug.
18:51.42ShefkiIt certainly only seems to impact certain people.
18:51.44taledenI can't replicate it either, but I have it from two users now, as do you
18:53.18Fiskergentleshefki
18:53.29Fiskerooh
18:53.35Fiskerso we can whine about bigwigs now Funkeh` ?
18:53.47Funkeh`your mother
18:54.20Fiskeri wish :(
18:54.27Repo10ora3: 03Ammo * r259 modules/Cooldowns.lua: stop all running bars upon leaving the raidgroup
18:55.20FiskerBigWigs is over 6000 though
18:55.55Fiskeroh nos
18:55.58Fiskerit failed :(
18:57.00Pneumatusvhaarr / Funkeh`: sending whispers appears to be completely broken in r6001, dunno if its been fixed since
18:57.18vhaarrit hasn't
18:57.26vhaarrI probably broke it
19:02.49Pneumatushow do i add a raid pizzabar with no ldb dropdown now?
19:03.06[Ammo]./bwcb
19:03.09Pneumatusta
19:03.15[Ammo]./bwcb 600 pizza in 10 minutes!
19:03.23[Ammo]and a local bar is bwlcb
19:03.47Pneumatusi knew there was a slash i just got used to using the ldb to set them :)
19:03.57Pneumatusand i couldnt remember it :<
19:07.39Fiskerso when is bigwigs dbm?
19:11.34Mikkaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh
19:11.52Mikkcomedian DK pops path of frost as we fall down to endboss
19:11.56Mikk25 x RIP
19:16.05Ackislol
19:16.07MrRuben5HAHAHA
19:16.09MrRuben5XD
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19:16.50Pneumatus[2009/09/03 19:37:15-3995-x42]: BigWigs_Ulduar-2.0\Vezax.lua:363: attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) in r6001 also
19:17.49Funkeh`curse taking a fucking day to sync again
19:18.03Funkeh`Kaelten, file sync broken again?
19:18.23Pneumatusr5890-3-release is showing as latest on curse client
19:18.56Funkeh`because you're set to alpha
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19:19.22Funkeh`and CC thinks alpha == latest file all the time
19:19.32Pneumatusno, its flagged as release
19:19.38Funkeh`uhu
19:19.42Funkeh`because I flagged it as a release
19:20.11Ackismutters something about experimental :P
19:20.15Ackishow long has it been?
19:20.22Ackisalmost an hour eh?
19:20.26Ackis@project big-wigs
19:20.27Funkeh`45 minutes
19:20.27RepoAckis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Game: WoW. funkydude (Manager/Author), Ammo (Author), Rabbit (Author). Updated: 46 minutes ago. Tickets: 11/86
19:21.10Ackis<PROTECTED>
19:21.25Ackisyour new version almost has a 1000 downloads
19:21.33AckisI think the issue might be the weird caching curse does
19:21.57Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6006 Ulduar/Vezax.lua: Bugfix.
19:24.27XtekFunkeh`: pointed it out to Kaelten
19:24.54Kaeltensorry what's up with sync?
19:26.20ThiefMasterany idea which addon could cause *massive* fps loss when someone in the raid dies
19:27.42AckisI blame onebag3 for massive FPS loss
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19:27.48Pneumatusi blame ackis
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19:33.59Ackisalways my fault
19:34.19Ackisand Kaelten sync was slow and/or curse caching screwed Funkeh` up
19:34.43Kaeltenis it betta yet?
19:35.33Ackisyah it was synced before you even got pinged
19:36.57XtekAckis: he's screwed up regardless of caching
19:37.54Ackisheh
19:39.07Ackis!api unitfaction
19:39.08lua_botUnitFactionGroup: Returns a unit's primary faction allegiance (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitFactionGroup)
19:39.58steevThiefMaster: redrange
19:53.09Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6007 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: Bugfixes.
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19:57.02PneumatusZeksie: is utopia supposed to keep switching between buff and debuff mode when i dont want to show buff mode?
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20:02.48Repo10addon-loader: 03Ammo * r106 Overrides.lua: slightly more room for the explanation text
20:02.54Zeksieif auto mode is on and it can find a suitable enemty when you're in combat. yeh
20:04.04Zeksiejust be sure to turn off auto mode
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20:13.43Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 07release * r6008 Ulduar/Thorim.lua: BigWigs: Ulduar/Thorim: bugfix
20:14.35sb|workhmmhmmmmmm
20:14.40sb|workfucking beasts...
20:14.45sb|workis p2 -> p3 also timed? :/
20:14.46sb|workvhaarr?
20:15.00Pneumatusyes
20:15.03Pneumatus3 mins
20:15.03sb|workmeh ok
20:15.34Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r5890-4-release * r6009 : more bugfixes
20:16.39Pneumatusyou guys still after beasts 25man heroic transcripts?
20:17.44Zynheroic 25-man is serious fucking business
20:17.50Zynbeasts kicking our asses
20:17.50Pneumatusconfirming this
20:18.02Zyn32 attempts remains
20:18.10Pneumatuswe are getting to jormungars reliably now, but not getting them down with any sense
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20:23.59Zynwe've gotten ONCE to Icehowl with mostly the whole raid up
20:24.02Zynthis is retarded :<
20:28.58Pneumatusthe beasts mod appears to be playing well now, just whispers not sending
20:29.06Groktarwe've got there about 6 times or so
20:29.30NivFreakI love TotGC
20:29.32Groktarpeople can't move :(
20:29.34NivFreak[23:52:28.535] Kallisti Flash of Light Nivwar +0 (O: 2256)
20:29.34NivFreak[23:52:28.539] Gormok the Impaler Impale Nivwar 44739
20:29.34NivFreak[23:52:28.656] Karnik Regrowth Nivwar +1329
20:29.34NivFreak[23:52:28.713] Karnik Lifebloom Nivwar +526
20:29.34NivFreak[23:52:28.774] Gormok the Impaler Impale Nivwar 6870 (O: 27235)
20:29.46NivFreak[23:52:28.939] Nivwar dies
20:29.48NivFreaklol
20:30.41NivFreak.2 seconds rawr
20:32.13Repo10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r89 ClassLoot_Data.lua: - 336 Items Changed, adding missing DPS DK priorities
20:32.46Shadowedhuh wowace die?
20:32.54Shadowedor git.wowace at least
20:33.37Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 8980331 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed a bug in the band code for channels and hots if you requested a time that has no heals after it
20:33.51Shadowedthere we go
20:37.20NeoTronNivFreak: sort of makes brutallus not so brutal doesn't it
20:37.41Pneumatusgormok's impales are just mad
20:37.44Pneumatusare you doing it with 3 tanks?
20:37.49Pneumatusi cant imagine doing it with less
20:38.18NeoTronseems impossible to avoid double hits if there's 0.23s between them?
20:39.28NivFreakPneumatus: yea, 3 tanks
20:39.38vhaarrwe use 2 tanks and get to p2/3 every time
20:39.43NivFreakwe're still trying to figure out if we can control rising anger ;)
20:39.58vhaarrbut we can't get the 2nd jormungar down before icehowl comes
20:39.58NivFreakvhaarr: just bop'ing off stacks?
20:39.58vhaarrye
20:40.01NivFreakhow many paladins?
20:40.01vhaarrfirst tank takes 5
20:40.07vhaarrshield walls on 4th
20:40.16vhaarr2nd tank taunts at 5 and first tank gets hand of prot
20:40.24vhaarr2nd tank takes 4, shield walls, takes 5
20:40.33vhaarrfirst tank taunts again and 2nd tank uses shield
20:40.34Fiskerhax vhaarr
20:40.40vhaarrthen he's at 20%
20:40.46NivFreakso you have a protadin :)
20:40.55NivFreakdamn, do you have a WoL parse I could look at?
20:40.55vhaarryes but you only need 2 paladins in the raid to do it
20:40.58Fiskerwe can get to jormungar without using bop
20:41.01Fiskeri.e. 3 tanks
20:41.11vhaarrdoesn't matter what spec they are
20:41.12NivFreakwe can get them out
20:41.15NivFreakwe just have bad RNG deaths
20:41.26NivFreakusing 3 tanks I think our healers are spread too thin
20:41.29NivFreakI'd love to try 2
20:41.31Fiskersick lag in our instances atm though :(
20:42.38Pneumatushow many healers?
20:42.39Pneumatus6?
20:42.43NivFreakvhaarr: how many stacks of rising anger does he have when you kill him?
20:43.33Pneumatuswe get 4 stacks, using 3 tanks 6 healers
20:43.51Pneumatustanks rotating on 2 impales
20:43.59NivFreakwe were using 7
20:44.02vhaarrNivFreak: 4 is max, one per snobold
20:44.03NivFreakand were hitting 5 rising anger
20:44.09vhaarrI thought?
20:44.10NivFreakI think our snobold killing is wayy too slow
20:44.15NivFreakvhaarr: 5 is max in heroic
20:44.26NivFreakvhaarr: do you have a WoL parse I could peak at? :)
20:44.28Pneumatushow do you stop extra stacks of rising anger
20:44.30vhaarrNivFreak: no
20:44.34Pneumatusby killing a snobold before a 2nd spawns?
20:44.40NivFreakvhaarr: =(
20:44.44vhaarrwhy would you need that, I just told you how we do it with 2 tanks
20:44.54NivFreakI was curious on your dps
20:45.23vhaarrit's ~100k
20:45.46vhaarr6 healers, 2 tanks
20:46.34NivFreakhow are you dealing with snobolds?
20:46.45vhaarrif they go on melee or hunters we ignore them
20:46.47Pneumatuscasters switch, melee cleave
20:47.12NivFreakvhaarr: and clean them up after the worms are out?
20:47.15vhaarrif they go on anyone else, everyone changes target and the person with snobold goes into the melee camp
20:47.23vhaarrye
20:47.25NivFreakyea, I was thinking of doing that
20:47.29NivFreakgood to know that works
20:53.39Pneumatusdo snobolds still have to be killed after gomok dies though?
20:53.44Pneumatusif you leave them on melee/hunters?
20:53.49Pneumatusor do they despawn
20:56.28NivFreakthey will stay up until you kill them
20:56.31NivFreakeven after icehowl dies
20:56.53NivFreakthey had about a million health in 25h iirc
20:59.11Pneumatusis there any point killing them on melee or hunters at all?
20:59.16Pneumatustheir damage is negligable isnt it?
21:01.15vhaarrye it is
21:01.16Grumwhich bosses drop ilvl258 armor tokens?
21:01.27Pneumatusmelee are bitching about being stunned though
21:01.29Grumwe just killed beasts ... and 0 tokens
21:01.30Grumwtf?
21:01.37Pneumatusthey only come from the tribute chest afaik
21:01.46Grumso yuo have to clear the instance first?!
21:01.57Grumbefore ever seeing any t9.258 tokens?
21:05.08NeoTronI'm sorry but.. snobolds with a million health? wtf? :P
21:06.56ulicrawr
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21:07.23sb|workGrum: wtb beast kill :/
21:07.44Grum23 tries left
21:07.57Pneumatuswe're getting raped :<
21:08.09Pneumatus35 attempts left
21:08.12Grumatm only 49 guilds killed it from the last wowprogress update
21:10.05sb|work39 attemps and yeah.. raped :p
21:10.07sb|work+t
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21:26.18HjalteCC4 is trying to set some file permissions in my addon folder, but it can't do it it seems. I can't seem to start CC4 in administrator mode, any other ideas?
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21:26.46Stanzillasometimes closing explorer helps :P
21:28.46Gnarfoznot using Vista, too, mwahaha.
21:28.47Gnarfoz:p
21:28.59Gnarfozalso, bugreport!
21:29.06Gnarfozthat feature was just pushed today
21:31.39HjalteI'll make a bug report when I have time to do more debugging.
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21:43.24RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-client-v4-early-access-beta/
21:48.46netcursehope you guys like it and thanks for helping beta test! I ve been using it for 2 months and it's been 100% stable and working.
21:49.11Pneumatushave you been using a different version to the rest of us for the last 2 months? :P
21:49.28netcursenop
21:49.29netcurse:)
21:49.49netcursei was away 2 weeks ago tho
21:49.58netcurseso maybe one release wasn t too good :p
21:50.24Pneumatussome of the bugs have only just been ironed out in the last build or two :P
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21:52.17nicoli_salways gotta be hating pneumatus :P
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21:52.36Pneumatusall im saying is 100% stable and working for 2 months is a little bit of an exaggeration :P
21:53.23sztanpetjust being curious, but why are you guys using this .net one click installer thing?
21:53.43profalbertwill CC3 remain available/supported?
21:54.12netcursenot in the long term
21:55.33Stanzillathe design is just crap :D
21:56.07sztanpetword
21:56.21profalbertso I need to update my addons with my windows-vm again
21:56.34FtH|Daemonaanyone here can answer me a question on the CC 4.0.0.556 update?
21:56.35netcurseare you on mac ?
21:56.41profalbertlinux
21:56.42Pneumatuslinux, id guess
21:56.53Pneumatusas you cant run .net3.5 in mono/wine i think
21:57.14Pneumatusor the one click installer
21:57.16Pneumatusor wpf
21:57.19Pneumatusor something
21:57.20netcursewe are looking at letting linux users use the cc v3
21:57.33netcurseuntil a longer term sollution is found
21:57.40profalbertah, that sounds reasonable
21:57.54netcursebut don't quote me on that as unfornatly linux users are only a few thousands
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21:58.27profalbertcommand-line-curse-client 4 linux
21:58.43netcurseFtH|Daemona i can
21:59.05FtH|Daemonanetcurse, why does it want to change file permissions on my addon folders?
21:59.25FtH|Daemonait didnt need to do that for the last 2 month i was using v4 beta
21:59.44HjalteFtH|Daemona: There were some bug reports that it didn't do permissions very well afaik
22:00.24netcurseDaemona, it's a check because for some users it was locked
22:00.26netcurselocking*
22:00.32sylvanaaroh grats on the beta
22:00.40FtH|Daemonacall me paranoid ;)
22:00.52Pneumatuscc3 fucked with permissions royally, so people will probably have problems with running cc4 as a normal user
22:00.58profalbertPermissions-thingy also complained on my vista-box
22:00.59sztanpetnah, wrote my share of tickets about cc4
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22:01.37profalbertbut I already love the notification about updates on wowi
22:01.44sztanpetits funny to see a program maxing out my 2cores just by scrolling through addons
22:01.58Pneumatuswho's leg do we have to hump to get the CC to recognise wowi addons?
22:02.01Pneumatusor should it just do it?
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22:02.16sylvanaarthe permissions thing in vista was really easy to fix, you just turned off inherited permissions, on the wow folder, then gave its own set of permissions
22:02.23netcursePneumatus, ckknight is
22:03.02sztanpettakeown /F D:\mywowfolder /R
22:03.02sztanpeticacls D:\ /grant Everyone:F /T /Q
22:03.05Pneumatusnetcurse: any plans for showing unknown addons in cc4, something which i seem to recall asking for weeks and weeks ago :P
22:03.10sztanpetfor teh permission problems
22:03.39FtH|Daemonanetcurse if i hit ok i am greeted with this: http://i27.tinypic.com/k2b97k.jpg
22:04.44Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6010 / (3 files in 3 directories): Add Koralon to toc/modules.xml.
22:04.55YssarilFtH|Daemona: do you have permission to change permissions? (ie are you loggin in as admin) also thats not the default location for games :P
22:05.12sylvanaarsztanpet is that ever a problem (for home users) on D:
22:05.29HjalteYssaril: I am using the default wow location and I am also logged in as admin, I still get that error.
22:05.38sztanpetsylvanaar just showing the command
22:05.45Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6011 Coliseum/Anubarak.lua: Fix enrage timer (-30sec).
22:05.51FtH|DaemonaYssaril 1. why should i login as admin, it's insecure 2. why should i install every shit to c:\program files?
22:05.54sztanpetif its in program files, then it is a problem for home users
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22:06.52netcursewe ll make it silent
22:06.58PneumatusFtH|Daemona: default WoW install folder is C:\Users\Public\Games
22:07.15netcurseFtH|Daemona and Hjalte, you can still scan and update addons right
22:07.15YssarilPneumatus: thats vista only though i think
22:07.40Hjaltenetcurse: It seems to work, yeah..
22:07.41sztanpetoh, i have a command for that too
22:07.42sztanpetmklink /D "C:\Users\Public\Documents\Blizzard Entertainment" "G:\stuffz\World of Warcraft\PATHCZ"
22:07.56netcurseok we ll remove the error
22:08.07FtH|Daemonanetcurse yes i can
22:08.34Pneumatuswtb WoWLua from wowi in cc4
22:08.44netcursePneumatus PM skk
22:08.47netcurseCKK*
22:08.53sztanpetwhy are some addons not found by cc4 but found by cc3?
22:08.55Pneumatusyeh, he's offline :<
22:09.05Pneumatusoh, i could pm him on wowace
22:09.07Pneumatusgood idea!
22:09.25netcursesztanpet, can you rapid share your UI folder
22:09.27netcurseand we ll investigate
22:09.53FtH|Daemonadid you take down the beta announcement?
22:09.59netcursenop
22:10.34netcurseupdate the client
22:10.37FtH|Daemonahttp://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-client-v4-early-access-beta/ is 404ing
22:10.47netcursehelp check for update
22:11.01netcurseurl is http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-client-v4-pc-early-access-beta/
22:11.14Repo10magic-dkp: 03dhedbor * r203 MagicDKP.lua:
22:11.15netcurseadded PC :p
22:11.17Repo[*]Core: Fixed faction champions death counts. Mindslip due to being away from Lua for a while - arrays start with 1, not 0.
22:11.28FtH|Daemonahaha sneaky little change
22:11.31Yssarilnetcurse: hmm latest version sais i have SpartanUI installed and shows me the Accept Ignore button (i have never installed that though)
22:11.51PneumatusYssaril: mouseover the accept button - what folder is it saying it thinks it matches?
22:11.56netcurseYssaril, rapid share your UI folder and we ll look at it asap
22:12.15FtH|Daemonanetcurse it's still asking to change permissions but not showing the follow up error anymore
22:12.29YssarilPneumatus: has a bunch of folders listed
22:12.31sztanpettheres no way to search for addons any more?
22:12.39netcurseclick find an addons
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22:13.14Pneumatusguess you must have enough addons in the compilation to make the CC think you have the compilation :o
22:13.29sztanpetoh thats a tool
22:13.36netcurseYssaril plz rapid share your UI
22:13.38Pneumatusckknight: sent you a PM on wowace about getting WoWLua added to the known addon list from wowi :)
22:13.39netcursewe ll look at it
22:13.46Yssarilnetcurse: zipping it up atm :)
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22:15.51Pneumatuslooks like spartanui packages with BT4 and oUF
22:16.19YssarilPneumatus: yea those are the only 2 i use out of that list of folders
22:17.09YssarilPneumatus: wanna install those 2 and see if it detects it as spartan?
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22:18.46MrRuben5netcurse: when will the mac CC launch?
22:18.56sztanpetalso, using 160megs of ram is normal with cc4?
22:19.00nicoli_sno date yet
22:19.09sztanpethow much is it using by you Pneumatus
22:20.35NeoTronsztanpet: well when you use 256 bit charactert encoding, text takes quite a bit of space!
22:20.47netcurseMrRuben5 that's a question for Kaelten
22:20.49sztanpethah
22:21.24sztanpetand it wont even close
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22:21.29netcursesztanpet mine us 20 mb
22:21.34sztanpetC:\Users\sztanpet\AppData\Local\Apps\2.0\WXAXXM1W.QCH\40EVDX4Q.PQ8\curs..tion_eee711038731a406_0004.0000_95b6af602c543588\CurseClient.exe
22:21.50sztanpetsuch a nice path
22:22.02MrRuben5netcurse: Ah, thank you.
22:23.01ckknightPneumatus: k, wait 10 minutes.
22:23.02nicoli_sthats probably .net putting it there automatically sztanpet
22:23.43sztanpetyea, im just curious that way that i want to specify where it wants to install itself and this is not letting me do that
22:23.54asmodaiZhinjio: around?
22:23.55sztanpetoh well
22:24.06Zhinjioasmodai: yup
22:24.27Xteksztanpet: it's a click-once app we don't have control over where it gets installed
22:24.36asmodaiZhinjio: will be the weekend at the earliest that I can look at it. Unexpected booty call showed up for a day or two *cough*
22:24.47sztanpetexactly
22:24.48Zhinjiorats. hate it when that happens
22:24.57sztanpetwhats the benefit of making it that way
22:25.00asmodaiZhinjio: *grin*
22:25.16sztanpetother then its "easier" for the users
22:25.19Xteksztanpet: isolated updates and the ability to roolback offline
22:25.20Kaziedo anyone know if there's a bug in grid with the colors? .. regardless of which color i change, it has no effect on the gridbars :s
22:25.45ckknightI think it's because it's easier for the users.
22:25.50sztanpetand how is the updating done on the mac
22:25.52XtekGoogle Chrome uses click-once.
22:25.57ckknightsztanpet: with Sparkle
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22:26.56asmodaiZhinjio: So, if you feel pressed for time do it, otherwise I'm on it in the weekend :)
22:27.06ZhinjioI'm not in any hurry at all
22:27.11asmodaicool beans
22:31.11rothbartis zeksie around?
22:31.51Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.9.1-34-g4817f4f Code/Parrot.lua: [+1 commit] add alias IsActive for IsEnabled for backward compatiblity (e.g. LibSink)
22:32.52nicoli_sgreetings magusx, here to enjoy the cc4 bug reports?
22:34.12profalbertwhat is the advantage of this .NET-ClickOnce-"I don't ask you where I should put the app-installation"-thing?
22:34.15Xteklol... bug reports
22:34.23Magusxnicoli_s: Thanks =) Absolutely - here to observe and report!
22:34.48XtekWork work.
22:34.52MagusxHope you guys enjoy the client - pretty proud of it myself but maybe a little biased
22:35.46sztanpetprofalbert updates apperantly
22:37.55HjalteMagusx: I don't have any bug reports for CC4 anymore at least. But There's always room for more features :)
22:38.19MagusxWe're working on a big one now as we speak - there's more to come
22:38.22profalbert"If it works right, it doesn't have enough features yet"
22:38.23sztanpeti made a few tickets already
22:38.25YewbaccaIs there some timer somewhere, like GetTime(), that counts time since player logged in?
22:38.50Magusxsztanpet: thanks for testing and reporting, keep'm coming
22:39.20sztanpetthank you for being resilient about the bitching
22:40.00Zeksierothbart: yes
22:44.31Yssarilnetcurse: did you get my rapidshare?
22:45.54Pneumatussztanpet: status column is intentionally fixed-width afaik so it can fit the accept/ignore/get buttons in
22:46.28sztanpetoh, thats a feature then
22:47.27Pneumatusthe Rating column is fixed width as well
22:47.55Pneumatusbut it's more obvious why that's fixed width
22:48.57sztanpetnah, i instantly removed that column with the sidebar as well
22:49.13sztanpetand didnt see the ignore and other things in the status column
22:49.20Pneumatusyeh, i have icon/name/status/installed ver/installed type/latest ver/latest type
22:49.36Pneumatuswhen you get an addon update, you'll get "Update Available [Get]" in the status column, iirc
22:49.48Pneumatusso im guessing its fixed width to give that enough space
22:50.16sztanpetalright then, they will have to mark my ticket as invalid :D
22:50.20Pneumatusotherwise the get button would probably end up either over the text, or wrapped out of visibility
22:50.42Pneumatuswell, id guess Adamar will invalid it anyway
22:51.12Pneumatusi know it took me a while to work out why it was fixed width too
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22:58.45sztanpethttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/134488/cc4memusage.jpg :(
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23:01.52Stanzillavhaarr / Funkeh` bad argument #3 to 'fmt' (string expected, got nil) on razuvious
23:02.05Stanzilla(i think)
23:04.23Magusxsztanpet, when you systray the client, what's the mem usage?
23:04.41sztanpetexactly the same, it doesnt go down
23:04.48Magusxk thanks
23:05.02ulicStanzilla: I don't see any fmt in razuvious
23:05.53Xteksztanpet: any chance you can take a screenshot of the task manager with the curse client.exe in the process list?
23:05.53sztanpetsure
23:05.53Magusxthat's virtual mem usage, which adamar's saying normal for a .net app
23:06.02Magusxactual RAM usage is 2,740K according to your screenie =)
23:06.33sztanpettask manager is reporting 200megs, thats all i care about
23:07.57sztanpethttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/134488/procexp.jpg freshly restarted and minimized
23:09.07Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6012 Naxxramas/Razuvious.lua: funky fails again
23:09.41Stanzillathanks :D
23:11.03sztanpetwant a vmmap of it xtek?
23:12.17sztanpethttp://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/dd535533.aspx and http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/134488/CurseClient.mmp if interested
23:12.55Magusxfwiw, http://curseclient.curse.com/images/v4-beta/MemoryUsage.jpg
23:13.50Xteksztanpet: thanks
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23:28.28sylvanaarstan bro - look at what the memory is being used for
23:28.52sylvanaar250MB for the image
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23:42.32Repo10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * 480d14a LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] GetHealAmount and GetOtherHealAmount will now floor any results returned
23:44.56Repo10revelation: 03Torhal * r99 / (2 files in 1 directory):
23:44.59RepoMinor internal code changes. Upped Interface version to 30200.
23:45.42Repo10revelation: 03Torhal 043.2.0-1.2.7 * r100 : Tagging as 3.2.0-1.2.7
23:47.16sylvanaarsztanpet angels and demons huh
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23:50.52sylvanaarsztanpet its the size of all the dll's, assemblies, and the jits of the assemblies in 64 bit address space. If you want to track something meaningful - look at the managed heap
23:52.34Repo10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6013 Ulduar/Freya.lua:
23:52.37RepoAdd a message when the sun beams spawn and an approximate cooldown for when they reappear (it seems to be between 35 and 45 seconds after the 'die'.
23:55.57Repo10geargauge: 03Torhal 07master * beta10 Panel.lua: [+1 commit] Removed an unused variable.
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