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| 00:06.30 | Stanzilla | omg |
| 00:06.33 | Stanzilla | new curse client skins |
| 00:08.45 | NivFreak | wtb addon sync for the mac beta! :) |
| 00:15.46 | Shefki | Stanzilla: Zune player skins? :P |
| 00:15.57 | Stanzilla | nah^^ |
| 00:16.11 | Stanzilla | it's aero styled |
| 00:16.18 | Stanzilla | and you can use native windows borders now |
| 00:16.22 | Stanzilla | instead of the rounded crap |
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| 00:37.09 | Pneumatus | so, would it be bad to not throttle OnUpdates for hp/mana bar updating? |
| 00:42.15 | Mikk | you probably want to explain that again |
| 00:44.28 | WobWork | "So would it be good to throttle OnUpdates for hp/mana bar updating?" ? |
| 00:46.01 | Mikk | throttles the framerate |
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| 00:46.54 | Mikk | local freezeUntil=GetTime()+0.2; do until GetTime()<freezeUntil; |
| 00:47.34 | Mikk | There, now you'll get fewer OnUpdates |
| 00:48.08 | Shadowed | :> |
| 00:48.19 | Shadowed | How much time does it take to call UnitHealth vs GetTime |
| 00:48.41 | Shadowed | has to go look |
| 00:50.38 | Shadowed | er it wouldn't be GetTime(), I'm stupid |
| 00:52.12 | Shadowed | It only takes 0.020s to call UnitHealth 100,000 times provided you are only updating when health changes throttling probably won't do that much |
| 00:52.20 | Shadowed | Pneumatus: ^ |
| 00:53.06 | Pneumatus | why would you need to GetTime() when you can just use the elapsed arg |
| 00:53.22 | Shadowed | Which is why I said I'm stupid |
| 00:53.36 | Pneumatus | ah |
| 00:53.53 | Pneumatus | well, im hacking rBottomBarStyler to OnUpdate rather than UNIT_HEALTH |
| 00:54.02 | Pneumatus | as it's not smooth, and therefore horrible |
| 00:54.18 | Shadowed | If you are really that paranoid, you could throttle it to 0.10s I prefer to just check if UnitHealth has changed and then update |
| 00:55.23 | Shefki | Thorttling is actually worse. |
| 00:55.27 | Shefki | It creates surges in updates. |
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| 00:55.35 | Shefki | Which can make the CPU usage spikey. |
| 00:55.54 | Shadowed | eh |
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| 00:56.05 | Pneumatus | Shefki: just updating when lastupdate+elapsed>X? |
| 00:56.23 | Shadowed | He means if you have say, 25 polls running in a raid you can have all 25 updating at the same time basically |
| 00:56.36 | Pneumatus | right |
| 00:56.41 | Shadowed | but |
| 00:57.47 | Pneumatus | but the frequency i'm going to want to update just 2 frames for "player"''s hp/mana isn't going to make any difference i guess |
| 00:57.51 | Shadowed | correct |
| 00:58.03 | Pneumatus | as i'm not updating a whole bunch of frames, just 2 |
| 00:58.07 | Shadowed | You have to make sure the health changed before updating or else you are going to be updating the health bar far far far more than you need to no matter which implementation you go with. |
| 00:58.31 | Shadowed | Throttling just complicates it and adds an extra step |
| 00:58.50 | Pneumatus | yeh, i'll just store a lastHealth or something |
| 00:59.00 | Shadowed | yup |
| 00:59.01 | Pneumatus | and check if UnitHealth == lastHealth |
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| 02:07.46 | Groktar | hehe, we're trying to do algalon and it's incredibly lagged |
| 02:07.55 | Groktar | to the point that weird stuff is happening |
| 02:08.01 | Groktar | like black holes never disappearing |
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| 02:32.55 | Stanzilla | 04:32:15> [Catey-Destromath] [Ferocious Bite] hit [You] 5374 Physical. (4279 Overkill) (Critical) |
| 02:33.02 | Stanzilla | some call it pvp, I call it rape |
| 02:42.34 | Mikk | Working like intended. Ghostcrawler has stated that Blizzard prefers fast-paced PvP |
| 02:42.51 | Mikk | In other games known as "Instagib" |
| 02:44.00 | Mikk | is sure that there are many that would like a moment alone with Ghostcrawler and an aluminum bat |
| 02:49.18 | Torhal | http://qikr.com/basywb |
| 02:49.20 | Cryect | 5374 seems kinda small for a finisher move |
| 02:49.30 | Cryect | Though that was just a hit |
| 02:50.01 | Stanzilla | 5374+4279 |
| 02:51.11 | Cryect | PvP in WoW has been completely fucked for ages so still confuses me people trying to do it competitively |
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| 03:05.01 | Xtek | holy netsplit batman |
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| 03:06.48 | Torhal | Xtek: I blame Ackis. |
| 03:06.54 | Xtek | I concur. |
| 03:06.57 | Xtek | He's CanadiAN. |
| 03:07.03 | Speeddymon | ~seen phanx |
| 03:07.06 | purl | phanx <n=phanx133@adsl-69-228-222-93.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 356d 2h 23m 34s ago, saying: 'Gnarfoz: thanks for committing that, btw'. |
| 03:07.33 | Speeddymon | ~seen durcyn |
| 03:07.33 | purl | durcyn is currently on #wowuidev (3d 5h 38m 56s) #wowace (3d 5h 38m 56s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 4h 58m 25s, last said: '~lart Ackis '. |
| 03:07.54 | Speeddymon | durcyn: ping! |
| 03:08.27 | pakoz | can someone make sure this is right |
| 03:08.40 | pakoz | ./cast [target=target'starget] Hand of Freedom |
| 03:08.47 | WobWork | no apostraphe |
| 03:08.56 | pakoz | ./cast [target=targetstarget] Hand of Freedom |
| 03:09.01 | WobWork | sorry |
| 03:09.03 | WobWork | no apostraphe s |
| 03:09.06 | WobWork | targetttarget |
| 03:09.09 | WobWork | >< |
| 03:09.12 | WobWork | with one less t |
| 03:09.14 | Xtek | Fail. |
| 03:09.20 | WobWork | terrible keyboard |
| 03:09.30 | Xtek | Uh huh, pick an easy target. |
| 03:09.31 | WobWork | I want my unicomp =( |
| 03:09.53 | WobWork | http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html |
| 03:09.56 | WobWork | is the one I use at home |
| 03:10.03 | WobWork | It's utterly fantastic |
| 03:10.16 | Xtek | Interesting. |
| 03:10.30 | Xtek | I can't type on straight keyboards. They hurt my wrists after a couple of hours. |
| 03:10.50 | WobWork | you should get the above |
| 03:10.58 | Gnarfoz | \o/ Das Keyboard 2 |
| 03:10.58 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 03:11.01 | WobWork | you don't hammer the keys because you get better feedback |
| 03:11.08 | WobWork | yeah, it's like the DasKeyboard =) |
| 03:11.23 | Xtek | I prefer mine. :) |
| 03:11.29 | WobWork | Although I like the customizer better than the DasKeyboard |
| 03:11.35 | WobWork | it's clackier =) |
| 03:11.47 | Xtek | http://www.infoprix.ca/images/pieces/921_1-Microsoft-Natural-Ergonomic-4000-Fr..jpg |
| 03:12.03 | WobWork | oh and you can brain someone with the Customizer |
| 03:12.06 | Xtek | Have one at work and at home. |
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| 03:12.14 | WobWork | and only have to worry about wiping off brain matter |
| 03:12.35 | Xtek | Sounds like fun. |
| 03:13.20 | WobWork | I've found, the problem with buying keyboards, is that you can't easily test them out beforehand |
| 03:13.30 | Xtek | Yep. |
| 03:13.37 | WobWork | but with the customizer, I won't ever have to buy another one =P |
| 03:13.43 | WobWork | it'll probably outlast me =P |
| 03:14.20 | Gnarfoz | ah, Buckling Spring keys |
| 03:14.27 | Gnarfoz | that's one class up from the DasKeyboard anyway |
| 03:14.35 | WobWork | oldskool =) |
| 03:14.42 | Gnarfoz | even though DasKeyboard already has all-mechanical switches etc |
| 03:14.56 | Gnarfoz | didn't realize the Customizer is basically a Model M |
| 03:14.56 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 03:14.59 | WobWork | tis =) |
| 03:15.19 | WobWork | just with new cabling, essentially (and a windows key) |
| 03:15.54 | WobWork | you can apparently write in to order from them, and they'll do mac keyboard keys too |
| 03:16.16 | WobWork | or at least provide you with the keycaps so you can swap them out |
| 03:17.35 | Gnarfoz | I'll bookmark it for when the day comes that I either forget my keyboard layout (half the fun of the DasKeyboard is that it's blank^^) or it actually breaks down |
| 03:18.01 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: hehe some time in the far future =) Daskeyboards are pretty solid |
| 03:18.12 | Gnarfoz | I'd hope so |
| 03:18.17 | Gnarfoz | German engineering \o/ |
| 03:18.18 | WobWork | I've considered getting a blank set so I can try training another layout |
| 03:18.44 | WobWork | it'd totally screw anyone around my workstation who wanted to use it =P |
| 03:18.55 | Gnarfoz | all my other keyboards are made by Cherry, too, funnily enough |
| 03:19.07 | WobWork | but then, I never could choose which layout to learn |
| 03:19.16 | Gnarfoz | my best friend has his DK1 at work |
| 03:19.27 | WobWork | what's the difference between the two versions? |
| 03:19.28 | Gnarfoz | also blank, but without the click, so his co-workers don't kill him some day |
| 03:19.33 | WobWork | ah |
| 03:19.35 | Gnarfoz | it has differently weighted areas |
| 03:19.44 | WobWork | that's why I keep mine at home =) |
| 03:19.50 | WobWork | the DK2 doesn't? |
| 03:19.51 | Gnarfoz | it's quite a bit more sophisticated, for some reason |
| 03:19.54 | Gnarfoz | not that I'm aware |
| 03:19.55 | WobWork | that's odd |
| 03:20.07 | WobWork | Cause I totally remember reading about the weighted keys |
| 03:20.10 | Gnarfoz | there was a layout picture for the DK1 that showed the different areas |
| 03:20.18 | WobWork | and then wondering why I couldn't find any info about it on the DK site |
| 03:20.34 | WobWork | I wonder why they took it out, it seemed like a selling point |
| 03:21.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 03:21.19 | Gnarfoz | the DK3 for some reason has moved over to the gamer niche, more than the geek niche now |
| 03:21.27 | WobWork | ooh, a 3, eh? |
| 03:21.28 | Gnarfoz | blue LEDs, high-gloss finish, integrated USB port |
| 03:21.45 | Gnarfoz | I'd never buy one of those ;o |
| 03:23.45 | WobWork | heh |
| 03:23.51 | WobWork | $187 AUD |
| 03:25.08 | Gnarfoz | â¬99 :\ |
| 03:25.28 | Gnarfoz | is EUR <> AUD really that close to 1:2? oO |
| 03:25.50 | Gnarfoz | nah, just a ripoff |
| 03:25.52 | WobWork | ~google 1 AUD in EUR |
| 03:25.59 | Gnarfoz | google says 1:1.7 |
| 03:26.18 | WobWork | yeah, that price is from a distributor here in Oz |
| 03:26.25 | quiescens | I don't like how so many addons like to have their settings for each character separate ): |
| 03:26.41 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: do the addons in question support profiles? |
| 03:26.48 | quiescens | not all of them |
| 03:26.53 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 03:27.08 | quiescens | and some of the ones that do don't use the same settings if you use the same profile |
| 03:27.19 | Gnarfoz | ironically enough, ace2/3 profiles don't use per character savedvariables anyway |
| 03:27.30 | quiescens | does anyone really have their ui look different for each character anyway |
| 03:27.53 | Gnarfoz | slight differences per class for me |
| 03:27.58 | NightHawkTheSane | same |
| 03:28.07 | NightHawkTheSane | mostly related my action bars |
| 03:28.21 | quiescens | more likely you make them as similar as you can afford to |
| 03:28.28 | WobWork | yeah |
| 03:28.34 | WobWork | I don't do that |
| 03:28.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i do, but there's invariably differences |
| 03:28.36 | quiescens | with the exception of class specific things like rune display, combo points, etc |
| 03:28.36 | Gnarfoz | totem timers vs. pallypower vs. grid vs. DoT timers |
| 03:28.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: yeah, that too |
| 03:28.50 | WobWork | Cause if it's too similar, I fall into bad reflexes |
| 03:29.03 | quiescens | okay |
| 03:29.06 | quiescens | what about things like |
| 03:29.08 | quiescens | quest log settings |
| 03:29.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I try to make my muscle memory work for me, though. ;) |
| 03:29.13 | WobWork | aside from basic ui |
| 03:29.23 | WobWork | like unitframes |
| 03:29.25 | Torhal | quiescens: I have no idea why, but that's the default "profile" for Ace3 |
| 03:29.28 | quiescens | having to manually copy them from one character to another and reposition things |
| 03:29.33 | Torhal | Most things WON'T be per-character |
| 03:29.47 | Torhal | It's very annoying. |
| 03:29.48 | WobWork | my actionbars tend to reflect the class being played, and look nothing like any other class |
| 03:30.01 | Gnarfoz | lol @ the sticker on the numpad: http://www.getdigital.de/images/actionshots/t4/daskeyboardIIIdaskeyboard_tux_11-digit.jpg |
| 03:30.02 | Torhal | WobWork: That's one of the few cases where per-char makes sense. |
| 03:30.12 | quiescens | I just mean, even things like the preferences for my quest log and what not |
| 03:30.43 | quiescens | oh wells |
| 03:30.58 | WobWork | I could probably clean my ui up |
| 03:31.07 | WobWork | but I can't really be bothered too much =) |
| 03:31.14 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, for a lot of the general stuff i keep the ui the same. although, i recall many of my addons defaulting to per-char settings |
| 03:31.15 | quiescens | that's what I was doing |
| 03:31.17 | quiescens | then I gave up |
| 03:31.33 | quiescens | because I pretty much have to do it once for each character |
| 03:31.41 | WobWork | I would like more real estate to put stuff in |
| 03:31.45 | WobWork | like chatboxes |
| 03:31.51 | NightHawkTheSane | get a bigger monitor? ;) |
| 03:31.55 | WobWork | yeah =) |
| 03:32.09 | WobWork | I should |
| 03:32.13 | WobWork | now I'm employed again |
| 03:32.14 | NightHawkTheSane | part of me wouldn't mind a couple nice 30"ers |
| 03:32.22 | WobWork | It wouldn't fit on my desk =( |
| 03:32.27 | NightHawkTheSane | but then i think i might get eye strain just using my machine |
| 03:32.32 | WobWork | And I'd be sitting -so- damned close... |
| 03:33.57 | WobWork | also, my graphics card would probably stab me in my sleep if I plugged two 30"ers in =P |
| 03:34.58 | NightHawkTheSane | hah: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/09/02/netbase-thinks-you-can-get-rid-of-jews-with-alcohol-and-salt/ |
| 03:37.35 | Shefki | Seriously when is curse just gonna ban this phrase: "I find a automatich fishing bot and to share" |
| 03:39.00 | quiescens | what we need is grammar based filters for spam |
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| 03:43.37 | durcyn | Speeddymon: i didn't do it |
| 03:44.04 | WobWork | "But is it a semantic engine or an anti-semitic search engine?" |
| 03:50.50 | Mikk | Shefki: I have a better idea. Don't ban it. Trigger on it and flag as hidden so that the user himself sees it. |
| 03:51.16 | Mikk | (But noone else) |
| 03:51.58 | Mikk | Or even more sneakily flag the IP temporarily as a spammer, and let all spammer IPs see spam. But noone else. |
| 03:51.58 | Shefki | Mikk: Great idea. :) |
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| 03:52.25 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03ulic * r608 Stratholme/Mal'Ganis.lua: death_trigger not defeat_trigger |
| 03:52.26 | Shefki | But that stuff shows up every single day. |
| 03:53.02 | Mikk | Yeah I'm getting a wee bit sick of cleaning it off my addons. |
| 03:53.08 | Mikk | Even stopped reporting it and letting users do it. |
| 03:56.19 | Shefki | I'm with you there. |
| 03:59.01 | Shadowed | More annoying that it triggers email alerts |
| 03:59.13 | Shadowed | so I'll get 4-6 spam emails in sets |
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| 04:03.14 | Mikk | What really annoys me is that it's so gorblang easy to automatically find that kind of spam |
| 04:04.06 | Mikk | Keep looking at the past 10 messages. Extract URLs. If one is mentioned in the majority of messages, blacklist it. Go back several more messages and look for it. |
| 04:04.18 | Mikk | Obviously you will need a whitelist also |
| 04:05.35 | Mikk | But, really, it's a half day of coding and will be earned back in a matter of months in saving time for moderators |
| 04:05.48 | Mikk | Ohwell. |
| 04:05.55 | Mikk | doesn't run Curse, Inc. |
| 04:06.07 | quiescens | at the same time its easy enough to get around that by making the urls slightly different each time |
| 04:06.19 | Mikk | quiescens: you obviously look at the domain name part |
| 04:06.27 | Mikk | suddenly it costs money if they want to change it |
| 04:06.33 | Shefki | Mikk: They have a bazillion different domains. |
| 04:06.39 | Shefki | Haven't you noticed it's different every day. |
| 04:06.56 | quiescens | there are already a lot of domains, and then there are numerous url shortening thingies |
| 04:06.58 | Mikk | Every day? Yes. In every message? No :P |
| 04:07.58 | Mikk | Anyway there's several automated methods they could use. |
| 04:08.04 | quiescens | arms race |
| 04:08.14 | Mikk | Anything that involves a short random delay before the message disappears |
| 04:08.23 | Mikk | is indistinguishable from manual intervention |
| 04:08.25 | Mikk | Happy guessing |
| 04:09.24 | Mikk | is pretty sneaky, did I mention that? |
| 04:10.24 | Mikk | is also awake at 6 in the morning it seems. That should be remedied. |
| 04:14.48 | Speeddymon | durcyn: you still there? |
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| 04:15.29 | durcyn | Speeddymon: just spit it out |
| 04:16.12 | Speeddymon | can i have commit access to LibTagCompiler-2.0 ? |
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| 04:28.23 | Shadowed | Adirelle: Yea this code seems to work a lot better |
| 04:33.27 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.3-6-g3693972 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Pulled in Adirelle's hot tracking code and redid the tracking in general to provide more accurate HoT tick data even with time drifting |
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| 04:34.00 | Repo | 5655419: If no LibHealComm-4.0 instance is found, it will give a specific error mentioning it's missing instead of the normal LibStub one |
| 04:38.25 | durcyn | Speeddymon: shit, that's still on my account? yeah, sec |
| 04:38.37 | Speeddymon | cool thx, dont want maintainer, just commit access |
| 04:40.35 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 04:40.38 | Repo | v2.1.0: Now Filters level 55/56 Death Knights by default, no options to change this currently. A whisper will be sent just like other classes, but asking to be level 57. |
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| 04:42.18 | Repo | 10badboy_levels: 03funkydude 04v2.1.0 * r50 : |
| 04:42.21 | Repo | v2.1.0: Now Filters level 55/56 Death Knights by default, no options to change this currently. A whisper will be sent just like other classes, but asking to be level 57. |
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| 04:52.46 | Speeddymon | Thanks again durcyn |
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| 06:12.44 | Repo | - Retweaking UI layout of window |
| 06:12.48 | Repo | - Contextual Menu support |
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| 07:21.54 | Repo | detachPlugin(), uiScale/getScaledCursorPos, bar highlight tweaks |
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| 07:24.50 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r6294 / (2 files in 2 directories): ruRU update |
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| 07:45.26 | Adirelle|work | Shadowed: some it seems something is fucked up with LHC rev 20, lifebloom just goes weird (something like 14000k incoming :o) |
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| 07:46.24 | quiescens | well it is technically incoming |
| 07:46.30 | quiescens | in small, bite sized pieces |
| 07:46.35 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:46.41 | nevcairiel | but not 14000k :p |
| 07:46.55 | quiescens | 14000k is probably overboard |
| 07:47.11 | quiescens | i doubt anyone has that much hp |
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| 07:58.30 | TNSe | maybe its some druid healing arthas |
| 07:59.08 | quiescens | with 5000000 spellpower |
| 07:59.22 | TNSe | arthas knows how to make people more powerful |
| 08:00.27 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: do you mind if I add a deDE translation for the error message in BadBoy_Levels? |
| 08:01.15 | Groktar | trying to explain to someone that 600 armor is better for a tank than 20 stam :( |
| 08:01.52 | quiescens | lols |
| 08:02.22 | quiescens | people are too hp mad |
| 08:02.44 | Groktar | yeah |
| 08:02.48 | quiescens | they have a tendancy to naively completely ignore armour |
| 08:03.00 | Groktar | armor is our best stat by far :( |
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| 08:03.16 | quiescens | like people that will take like some miniscule parry rating over increased armour |
| 08:03.28 | quiescens | its silly |
| 08:03.38 | Groktar | or a miniscule amount of stam |
| 08:03.45 | Groktar | like, if i have 50k unbuffed |
| 08:03.50 | quiescens | its not purely about hp |
| 08:03.50 | Groktar | what's another 200hp? |
| 08:03.52 | Groktar | really |
| 08:03.59 | quiescens | otherwise why don't we just get warlocks to tank everything! |
| 08:04.03 | quiescens | armour doesn't matter anyway |
| 08:04.37 | Groktar | he wants to use shiver over the tank sword from anub |
| 08:11.43 | Fisker | Groktar my friend |
| 08:14.18 | Groktar | brandishes a gerbil |
| 08:15.06 | quiescens | runs. |
| 08:15.36 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r5 / (3 files in 1 directory): split landmarks into separate file for core readability |
| 08:16.58 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r6 Battleground.lua: readability shuffle |
| 08:17.02 | asmodai | Hahaha, cute discussion. :) |
| 08:17.29 | asmodai | But yeah, if you can do damage mitigation by armour, you get way less hits, so then stamina will just be unused >_< |
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| 08:20.39 | asmodai | But I am not a tank, just pay attention ^^ |
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| 08:26.53 | WobWork | It's never about pure hp vs pure avoidance |
| 08:27.00 | WobWork | it's a combination of both |
| 08:27.12 | quiescens | that's what we're saying |
| 08:27.29 | quiescens | we just complaining about the tanks that only have hp |
| 08:27.32 | quiescens | and more hp |
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| 08:28.04 | quiescens | especially when compared to armour |
| 08:28.08 | WobWork | I like my bear tanks |
| 08:28.15 | WobWork | they have a lot of hp -and- a lot of mitigation |
| 08:28.29 | WobWork | makes it easy to heal |
| 08:28.40 | WobWork | lots of buffer, not too much spike |
| 08:30.16 | Gnarfoz | @describe battleground |
| 08:30.17 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/. Battleground. Battleground Timers |
| 08:31.06 | Gnarfoz | prepare for "can you make it in bar form?" request |
| 08:31.07 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 08:31.14 | Gnarfoz | (which you can redirect to Capping ;p) |
| 08:32.00 | quiescens | to be fair |
| 08:32.17 | quiescens | certain types of addons are particularly hard to search for |
| 08:39.08 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r7 / (7 files in 3 directories): put in some localization support |
| 08:46.47 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r245 locales (9 files in 1 directory): -- Food / Drink for eating statuses. |
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| 08:49.00 | Megalon | damn you Fisker |
| 08:49.39 | Groktar | damns Megalon instead |
| 08:58.41 | asmodai | WobWork: Oh, I wasn't implying hp is bad over armour. Just that if you shit loads of hp and little to no mitigation it doesn't help either. |
| 08:59.24 | asmodai | Bibi-: does the search work at all @ mmo-champion? |
| 08:59.39 | [Ammo] | Gnarfoz: I am not going for bar form |
| 08:59.47 | [Ammo] | the whole reason is to get rid of the damn bar clutter |
| 09:00.03 | Gnarfoz | I guessed as much ;p |
| 09:00.13 | [Ammo] | I love this page though http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetMapLandmarkInfo :) |
| 09:01.24 | SuperGod | noms [Ammo]'s pinky finger |
| 09:01.48 | [Ammo] | now I need to dive into DBM sync fakage though |
| 09:01.56 | [Ammo] | because every loser and their mother uses DBM |
| 09:02.03 | Gnarfoz | DBMFTLBBQ! |
| 09:02.08 | [Ammo] | handy way to get timers for contested objectives when joining mid-fight :) |
| 09:02.16 | [Ammo] | already doing capping fakage |
| 09:02.29 | [Ammo] | but dbm needs DBM-v4 Hi! |
| 09:02.31 | Gnarfoz | I guess capping does that, too, because I get german timers a lot with Capping |
| 09:02.39 | [Ammo] | haha |
| 09:02.47 | Gnarfoz | obviously from German players using DBM |
| 09:02.52 | Gnarfoz | >_< deDE has to die |
| 09:02.54 | [Ammo] | won't happen with my thing, you just won't get timers |
| 09:03.01 | [Ammo] | english or gtfo |
| 09:03.09 | [Ammo] | capping doesn't sync with dbm |
| 09:03.10 | [Ammo] | afaik |
| 09:03.13 | [Ammo] | it syncs with capping |
| 09:03.41 | Gnarfoz | then it's even weirder, that'd mean deDE users with Capping oO |
| 09:03.45 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 09:04.18 | [Ammo] | and since capping doesn't check the validity of the timers -> pewpew MOAR bars |
| 09:04.42 | Gnarfoz | hm no, I don't get duplicates, just when I'm joining late in the game, I get German timer names |
| 09:07.06 | [Ammo] | guess it does some checking |
| 09:07.30 | [Ammo] | I only grabbed it's match string |
| 09:07.34 | [Ammo] | to get the name and time |
| 09:09.51 | [Ammo] | anyone know of other bg timer addons that sync? |
| 09:09.57 | SuperGod | noms [Ammo]'s left thumb |
| 09:10.03 | [Ammo] | I really don't want to go the way of DBM |
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| 09:12.34 | Elkano | capping? |
| 09:12.47 | Elkano | not 100% sure though |
| 09:12.53 | Gnarfoz | we were talking about Capping for more or less the last 10 minutes |
| 09:12.53 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 09:16.30 | Borlox | G'morning |
| 09:17.30 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: /live battleground |
| 09:18.02 | Adirelle|work | moving timer bars is a pain in the ass |
| 09:18.44 | Gnarfoz | how so? lol |
| 09:18.52 | Gnarfoz | you just move an anchor, whoop-de-doo |
| 09:21.02 | Megalon | Anchors aweigh and come aboard you little buccaneers! |
| 09:24.24 | Gnarfoz | Bereitmachen zum Ãndern, Megalon! |
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| 09:26.12 | Megalon | pulls Gnarfoz t-shirt and hits him in the face |
| 09:26.16 | Megalon | take that agitator! |
| 09:26.28 | Gnarfoz | I'm wearing a button-down :\ |
| 09:26.32 | Gnarfoz | and it's not even blue! |
| 09:26.34 | Fisker | argh |
| 09:26.39 | Fisker | DEFENSE OVERLOAD GNARFOZ |
| 09:26.39 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:26.52 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: construct more pylons? |
| 09:26.53 | Fisker | i'm getting like 555 defense and i haven't even enchanted my chest with defense |
| 09:27.13 | Megalon | then enchant it with manareg |
| 09:27.23 | nevcairiel | i kinda like how they phase out defense with 4.0 |
| 09:27.26 | nevcairiel | it was a broken concept |
| 09:27.33 | Fisker | yes |
| 09:27.49 | nevcairiel | although i'm a druid, i didnt care since 3.0 anymore :P |
| 09:27.50 | Fisker | I really hope they do the humongous hp/hits design |
| 09:28.01 | nevcairiel | but my DK alt did care, but shrug |
| 09:32.16 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r8 Battlegrounds/AlteracValley.lua: drycode some dbm sync spammage |
| 09:33.09 | Shefki | Fisker: I'm really not sure how they can make that work. |
| 09:33.22 | Fisker | i hope they do though |
| 09:33.42 | Shefki | If they do that they will make tanks almost unkillable in solo content. |
| 09:33.51 | Shefki | So tank damage will have to drop way low. |
| 09:33.59 | Shefki | Which will frustrate the hell out of tanks. |
| 09:34.41 | Shefki | Also dps class damage will have to go way up in order for PVP to make sense or you'll see classes tanking up and just being impossible to kill. |
| 09:34.46 | Fisker | Or they'll remove all of their defense |
| 09:34.59 | Fisker | or a lot of it anyways |
| 09:35.39 | Shefki | You're proposing that tanks basically get hit as hard as anyone else just have bigger health pools? |
| 09:36.32 | nevcairiel | druids already work like that Shefki, i don't see a problem |
| 09:36.42 | Shefki | They do not, you have dodge. |
| 09:36.49 | Fisker | dodge cpa |
| 09:36.51 | Fisker | cap* |
| 09:37.20 | nevcairiel | they won't be removing dodge |
| 09:37.39 | Shefki | Fisker: Sure, but no dps class is going to run around with the dodge that a bear tank would. |
| 09:38.12 | Shefki | I just think if they do this to tanks they're gonna end up with endless amounts of tinkering to try and make PVP not be stupid. |
| 09:38.15 | Fisker | no |
| 09:38.24 | Shefki | Not that this will stop them, PVP ends up stupid anyway for other reasons. |
| 09:38.32 | Fisker | But druids don't have that much more dodge than other tanks anyways |
| 09:38.39 | Fisker | since we're all hitting the cap by now |
| 09:38.39 | nevcairiel | The only change that is confirmed so far is that defense is going away and crit-immunity is going to be talented |
| 09:38.55 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Right and that's not a big deal. |
| 09:38.56 | nevcairiel | ..like druids |
| 09:38.57 | sztanpet | [Ammo] [2009/09/15 11:36:18-70-x1]: Battleground-r8\Battlegrounds\AlteracValley.lua:10: attempt to call local 'L' (a table value) |
| 09:39.02 | Shefki | But that's not what Fisker was talking about. |
| 09:39.12 | nevcairiel | fisker never makes much sense |
| 09:39.22 | [Ammo] | sztanpet: it's all drycode! :) |
| 09:39.31 | Shefki | Big health and big hits is a strategy for making healing less demanding and it's frankly what Pally healers need. |
| 09:39.34 | sztanpet | no problem, just sayin :D |
| 09:39.47 | Shefki | But the problem with it is it's got huge issues with their solo based design and their PVP design. |
| 09:39.59 | Shefki | And I just can't see how they can reconcile those things. |
| 09:40.04 | Fisker | what i'm talking about is that GC(i think) was saying that optimally they wanted bossfights to work a lot like having very very big hits land seconds part and have healers heal it all up before the second hit |
| 09:40.09 | Fisker | That's a nice idea because: |
| 09:40.17 | sztanpet | any plans to incorporate a way to move the whole battleground objectives frame? |
| 09:40.21 | Fisker | 1. It solves much of the "OMG DK tanks are better than x, and etc" |
| 09:40.28 | Shefki | Fisker: Right I remember him saying that. |
| 09:40.39 | nevcairiel | We had those kind of fights in classic |
| 09:40.42 | Fisker | 2. Healers don't have to spam haste to heal efficiently |
| 09:40.54 | nevcairiel | and you just had loads of healer spam heals to avoid lags destroying the tank |
| 09:40.57 | nevcairiel | it was awful |
| 09:41.17 | Shefki | nevcairiel: And then rotate healers while others took a break to regen mana. |
| 09:41.17 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 09:41.29 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 09:41.32 | nevcairiel | it was sucky |
| 09:41.38 | Shefki | It's a very attractive design in a world where direct heals are it. |
| 09:41.39 | nevcairiel | everyone was just spamming a high rank |
| 09:41.42 | nevcairiel | no strategy |
| 09:41.42 | nevcairiel | nothing |
| 09:41.43 | Shefki | But the game has moved on. |
| 09:42.08 | nevcairiel | granted back in the day all healers were kinda doing that |
| 09:42.11 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r9 Battlegrounds/AlteracValley.lua: fix some drycode |
| 09:42.14 | Wobin | I admit, however, it's kinda awesome to chainspam chainheal in heroic ToC 3rdphase of BK |
| 09:42.15 | nevcairiel | even druids where spamming healing touch |
| 09:42.17 | Wobin | So many pretty lines |
| 09:42.18 | Fisker | i very much disagree that's how they want it to be, atleast the way i see, is the way it was in classic :o |
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| 09:43.15 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r10 Battlegrounds/AlteracValley.lua: more locale fixing drycode drek |
| 09:43.33 | Shefki | Fisker: It sounds really nice on paper as far as improving the healing experience and making it less stressful. |
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| 09:43.50 | nevcairiel | i kinda liked healing being a bit more stress, the game wasnt as boring then |
| 09:43.52 | Shefki | Becuase frankly starting with Sunwell this game has become more and more ridiculous with respect to healing. |
| 09:43.57 | Megalon | healing should be just toc twins |
| 09:44.05 | Megalon | spam reju an gcd |
| 09:44.08 | Megalon | and 9k+ hps galore |
| 09:44.20 | Shefki | I despise what they've done to resto druids. |
| 09:44.29 | Shefki | It's incredibly stupid. |
| 09:44.48 | nevcairiel | druids didnt really change that much over all the time |
| 09:44.50 | Wobin | Shefki: hotspam? =P |
| 09:44.51 | Shefki | The strategy, smart healing and coolness of resto druid in TBC is gone. |
| 09:44.59 | nevcairiel | the fights changed |
| 09:45.11 | Shefki | Wobin: Littering the raid with Rejuv is not fun. |
| 09:45.19 | Wobin | true bunnies |
| 09:45.37 | Shefki | And frankly taking our GCD down to 1 second is fucking stupid. |
| 09:45.43 | Shefki | They should never have let us do that. |
| 09:45.48 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/maintenance.xml <-RAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 09:45.59 | Shefki | It's hard to not get worn out from doing that all night. |
| 09:46.11 | Shefki | It encourages the fast decision not the smart decision. |
| 09:46.34 | nevcairiel | I never had issues with that |
| 09:46.40 | Shefki | I'll admit the lifebloom rolling in TBC was it's own degree of greuling. |
| 09:46.50 | Wobin | hehe |
| 09:46.50 | nevcairiel | I liked finally being able to push my healing without just stupidly collecting more spellpower |
| 09:46.52 | Wobin | totem twisting |
| 09:47.10 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I dont' disagree that I like the changes to make other stats vauleable. |
| 09:47.22 | Shefki | I just think that taking the GCD down to 1 second is horrible for game play. |
| 09:47.29 | nevcairiel | worked for me |
| 09:47.47 | Shefki | Spamming faster isn't more fun, it's just more work. |
| 09:47.52 | Fisker | so |
| 09:47.57 | nevcairiel | as an alternative they could make haste decrease the time between hot tics |
| 09:48.04 | nevcairiel | but that would make other classes scream more, i guess |
| 09:48.05 | Fisker | google wave is starting up beta soon :o |
| 09:48.07 | Shefki | nevcairiel: That would be more fun. |
| 09:48.15 | Fisker | people are like "OMG THIS IS NEW EXCITING" |
| 09:48.17 | Shefki | I'd much rather they take away the GCD decrease and do that. |
| 09:48.26 | Wobin | Fisker: I'd like to see how it goes, really |
| 09:48.37 | Shefki | They seem to think pushing more buttons more often is more fun. |
| 09:48.42 | Shefki | But I think it's the opposite. |
| 09:48.49 | Shefki | Becuase it's taken the decision making process out of it. |
| 09:49.05 | Wobin | nevcairiel: oh god, that would be painful to keep track of |
| 09:49.11 | Fisker | also i want my damn ssd |
| 09:49.17 | Shefki | Being good as a resto druid used to mean intelligently predicting damage. |
| 09:49.25 | Shefki | Now it's about who can press buttons faster. |
| 09:49.27 | nevcairiel | Wobin, thats true, would mean less targets you can rotate hots on |
| 09:49.40 | Wobin | Shefki: move over here. |
| 09:49.52 | Wobin | Then -all- healing will be about intelligently predicting damage =) |
| 09:49.52 | Shefki | ? |
| 09:50.23 | nevcairiel | Shefki, partly thats because of the fights as well, a fight like mimiron where in one phase everyone gets constant damage is just silly, you can spam hots on everyone and run 9k HPS no problem :P |
| 09:50.30 | Wobin | when playing with a 500-700ms ping time, it's all about guessing =) |
| 09:50.36 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I know. |
| 09:50.52 | Shefki | I also think the fight design is stupid as of late. |
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| 09:51.02 | nevcairiel | thats partly why i stopped |
| 09:51.02 | Shefki | They're putting constant damage on everyone in the raid now. |
| 09:51.10 | Wobin | one of the healers in my raid consistantly plays at 1-2k latency |
| 09:51.10 | nevcairiel | it was getting boring |
| 09:51.33 | Wobin | he sucked at Heigan, but he's really good at predicting damagespikes =P |
| 09:51.44 | sztanpet | [Ammo] any plans to incorporate a way to move the whole battleground objectives frame? |
| 09:51.45 | Shefki | I have another resto druid who's honestly not good at the class. But can push out more healing than me becuase he's just flat out faster at littering the raid. |
| 09:51.57 | Shefki | On fights where that isn't an advantage he does horrid. |
| 09:52.06 | Shefki | But becuase of this nonense he thinks he's hot shit. |
| 09:52.19 | nevcairiel | i'm the opposite, i pay too much attention to everything to keep hots on everyone |
| 09:52.36 | sztanpet | [Ammo] also http://paste.wowace.com/1135/ with r10 |
| 09:52.41 | nevcairiel | plus i was raid leading |
| 09:52.42 | Shefki | He runs his rotation and that's what he does. He doesn't heal intelligently. |
| 09:52.44 | nevcairiel | that distracted from littering |
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| 09:53.27 | Shefki | I enjoyed watching him do very very bad on Vezax. |
| 09:53.31 | Shefki | It was funny. |
| 09:53.43 | Shefki | I told him exactly what to do and he couldn't execute it. |
| 09:53.49 | nevcairiel | i kinda liked vezax, finally you had to be smart with healing :) |
| 09:53.57 | Shefki | Yeah well they ruined it. |
| 09:54.03 | Shefki | Now I press one button, rejuv. |
| 09:54.14 | Shefki | The whole fight that's the only heal I cast. |
| 09:54.41 | Shefki | Because they ruined Omen of Clarity. |
| 09:54.42 | nevcairiel | did they change it much? i didnt play for half a year |
| 09:54.56 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Omen of Clarity no longer procs for resto druids on that fight. |
| 09:55.04 | Wobin | ? |
| 09:55.06 | Shefki | Procs for every other type of druid. |
| 09:55.08 | Shefki | But not resto |
| 09:55.10 | nevcairiel | wut |
| 09:55.14 | Shefki | I'm serious. |
| 09:55.16 | nevcairiel | i used to melee and get procs |
| 09:55.17 | Wobin | I guess you can stand behind vezax and melee =) |
| 09:55.25 | Shefki | That's what we always did. |
| 09:55.31 | Shefki | Stand behind vezaxx, melee. |
| 09:55.35 | Shefki | Whenever you get a proc, lifebloom |
| 09:55.39 | Shefki | Which then refunds mana. |
| 09:55.42 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 09:55.44 | nevcairiel | that was awesome |
| 09:55.48 | Shefki | Iindeed. |
| 09:55.48 | nevcairiel | not working anymore? |
| 09:55.48 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 09:55.53 | Shefki | They nerfed it with 3.2 |
| 09:56.01 | Wobin | weeeiiiird |
| 09:56.04 | Shefki | Let me go find the blue post about it. |
| 09:56.10 | nevcairiel | omen is completly broken, or the lifebloom mana return? |
| 09:56.19 | Shefki | Omen |
| 09:56.31 | nevcairiel | i mean i could understand the mana return falling under the category thats being limited |
| 09:57.08 | Shefki | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19110297535&sid=1 |
| 09:57.43 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 09:57.55 | Shefki | Honestly that's what made that fight fun. |
| 09:58.01 | Shefki | Now it's just stupid boring and annoying. |
| 09:58.17 | nevcairiel | good that i stopped |
| 09:58.27 | nevcairiel | my guild kinda died shortly after anyway |
| 09:58.49 | Shefki | Well I'm not stoping anytime soon. About to get the mace. |
| 09:59.14 | Fisker | i cri'd that they're nerfing argent defender |
| 09:59.15 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:59.19 | nevcairiel | I had a chance on the mace, but i gave it to another druid because i could see my fun going baibai |
| 09:59.27 | nevcairiel | although, she stopped playing now too |
| 09:59.31 | nevcairiel | so whatever |
| 09:59.37 | nevcairiel | i don't care anymore |
| 09:59.49 | Shefki | I gotta be honest, I doubt I'm gonna play after this expac. |
| 09:59.59 | nevcairiel | I might start a worgen for fun |
| 10:00.06 | nevcairiel | and to see the revisited classic world |
| 10:00.47 | Shefki | PVE wise Blizzard for the most part makes a pretty good game. |
| 10:00.58 | nevcairiel | i never was into pvp much ;) |
| 10:01.08 | Shefki | But their failure to plan for PVP is showing through horribly. |
| 10:01.15 | nevcairiel | I was gladiator in season 1 in TBC, that was kinda fun |
| 10:01.17 | Shefki | PVP really has been just bolted onto this game. |
| 10:01.23 | nevcairiel | but thats about all pvp i ever played |
| 10:01.54 | Shefki | I never do very well in arena becuase I can't be bothered to take it seriously. |
| 10:02.00 | Shefki | It's missing a motivation. |
| 10:02.01 | Wobin | bolted? |
| 10:02.02 | Wobin | pft |
| 10:02.09 | Wobin | pvp was stuck on with library paste |
| 10:02.14 | nevcairiel | i was playing with a girl that motivated me to do so :p |
| 10:02.30 | nevcairiel | luckily, she was an awesome rogue, too |
| 10:02.31 | Shefki | Yeah well my girlfriend doesn't like arena either. |
| 10:02.33 | nevcairiel | best i've ever played with |
| 10:02.51 | Shefki | If she was into it we'd probably do it. |
| 10:02.56 | Shefki | But then again, they killed 2v2. |
| 10:03.00 | industrial | I play with girls all the time! they motivate me to do all sorts of things |
| 10:03.02 | industrial | is so funny |
| 10:03.11 | Shefki | bad joke is bad. |
| 10:04.08 | Shefki | Ultimately I think they've taken druids to places they shouldn't have. I'll admit I thought it was a good idea when they did it. |
| 10:04.16 | Shefki | I was like "cool 1 second GCD" |
| 10:04.49 | nevcairiel | maybe i stopped playing just before the low gcd got to me |
| 10:05.08 | nevcairiel | i still liked it when i stopped |
| 10:05.10 | Shefki | I'm sitting on 548 haste rating atm. |
| 10:05.23 | nevcairiel | i logged out in feral gear last time |
| 10:05.25 | Shefki | And I could easily run way more. |
| 10:05.25 | nevcairiel | oh well |
| 10:06.14 | Shefki | Anyway I was hitting ~10k hps on twins tonight. It was stupid. |
| 10:06.31 | nevcairiel | is 548 not even too much if you get all raid buffs? |
| 10:06.38 | nevcairiel | i don't remember anymore |
| 10:06.45 | Shefki | It's overcap with all the raid buffs. |
| 10:06.53 | nevcairiel | .. or you take out points out of that talent |
| 10:06.55 | Shefki | I need at least one raid buff to get 1second GCD though. |
| 10:06.56 | nevcairiel | i forgot its name |
| 10:07.03 | Shefki | I still have 5/5 GotEM |
| 10:07.08 | Shefki | But I don't run the 3% haste one anymore. |
| 10:08.06 | sztanpet | is it pb4 or ora3 not removing maintanks when they get demoted? |
| 10:08.19 | Shefki | sztanpet: ora3 |
| 10:08.29 | Shefki | sztanpet: We just do what it tell sus. |
| 10:08.31 | Shefki | tells us* |
| 10:08.42 | sztanpet | ah, okay |
| 10:09.00 | Shefki | sztanpet: You mean demoted from the Blizzard tank list? |
| 10:09.05 | sztanpet | yea |
| 10:09.11 | Shefki | That's not how you use ora3. |
| 10:09.25 | sztanpet | of course it is for people not using ora3 |
| 10:09.41 | nevcairiel | did you add official support for the ora3-managed tank list? |
| 10:09.47 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Yes. |
| 10:09.52 | nevcairiel | good stuff |
| 10:09.57 | sztanpet | a bit annoying when you have over nine thousand maintanks and have to go into ora3 to just remove them |
| 10:10.15 | nevcairiel | well the ora3 interface still may need some tweaking |
| 10:10.19 | Shefki | sztanpet: If you're the only one using oRA3 just don't set any tanks in it. |
| 10:10.28 | sztanpet | im not |
| 10:10.28 | Shefki | And you'll just get whatever the blizzard tank list is. |
| 10:10.34 | sztanpet | no i dont |
| 10:10.45 | Shefki | But if oRA3 gives us a tank list we use it. |
| 10:11.09 | Shefki | Priority is as follows: ora3, ora2, CTRA, Blizzard |
| 10:11.12 | sztanpet | i get every tank that was set in the blizard tanklist, even those that got demoted |
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| 10:11.33 | Shefki | sztanpet: Right demoting them doesn't remove them from the ora3 list. |
| 10:11.34 | sztanpet | im guessing its how ora3 works at the moment |
| 10:11.34 | nevcairiel | ora2 and ctra is still the same list, isnt it |
| 10:11.53 | Shefki | nevcairiel: We get the list from the addons, we don't implement the comms. |
| 10:11.59 | Shefki | But they share comms yes. |
| 10:12.09 | nevcairiel | people still use ctra anyway? |
| 10:12.16 | Shefki | Beats me. |
| 10:12.20 | Shefki | I implemented it. |
| 10:12.26 | Shefki | Because it was easy to do. |
| 10:12.34 | Shefki | Frankly it's easier to implmeent CTRA than oRA2. |
| 10:12.38 | Shefki | oRA2 sucks ass. |
| 10:12.48 | Shefki | It does dumb shit. |
| 10:12.55 | nevcairiel | i don't remember, been too long since i've worked with it |
| 10:13.13 | Shefki | ora2 has the MT stuff in load on demand modules that don't load until you're in a raid. |
| 10:13.17 | [Ammo] | hrmf, requesting timers from DBM is useless in battlegrounds |
| 10:13.23 | Shefki | It then can load the tank list from a SV. |
| 10:13.34 | [Ammo] | since you're almost never in combat it'll never send the timers :p |
| 10:13.37 | Shefki | However, when it does that it doesn't send the even tto say the list changed. |
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| 10:13.50 | Shefki | event* |
| 10:14.10 | Shefki | Since it loads on entering the raid it means it loads in combat if you log in after getting d/c'ed |
| 10:14.25 | Shefki | So if you're using oRA2 you can't get your tank frames back if you d/c in a raid. |
| 10:14.37 | nevcairiel | so thats why i never got them back |
| 10:14.57 | Shefki | Since it doesn't send the events, I have to do some stupid hoop jumping to figure out when it loads the crap out of the SV. |
| 10:14.59 | nevcairiel | i never bothered to check because i dont use them for healing |
| 10:15.04 | nevcairiel | i just noticed |
| 10:15.07 | Xinhuan | that's why addons that do create-on-demand frames for unit frames suck ;p |
| 10:15.13 | [Ammo] | tankframes suck period |
| 10:15.14 | Shefki | It also means if someone goes offline, you change the tanks and then they log back in they'll change the tanks back for everyone. |
| 10:15.22 | [Ammo] | anyone who needs tankframes needs to learn how to play |
| 10:15.35 | Shefki | I like tank frames. |
| 10:15.41 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan, if they do it through the headers its perfectly working |
| 10:15.49 | Xinhuan | i suppose ;p |
| 10:16.01 | nevcairiel | as long as you don't do stupid stuff |
| 10:16.03 | Shefki | Xinhuan: It works fine. I can even hide and show groups in combat based on predefined criteria. |
| 10:16.05 | nevcairiel | like some UFs do |
| 10:16.07 | sztanpet | its usefull if you have a lot of targets and need to hit the right one while having other stuff to do too |
| 10:16.23 | Shefki | I mostly like it becuase I make my tank frames a little bigger. |
| 10:16.32 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r11 Battlegrounds/AlteracValley.lua: fix some errors and add some dbm fakage. |
| 10:16.33 | Xinhuan | i'll bet there's some that still don't work right ;p |
| 10:16.36 | Repo | dbm stuff will be removed probably since I have yet to receive any timer info from it |
| 10:16.52 | Shefki | Xinhuan: There's a lot that don't work right frankly. But the situation is getting better. |
| 10:16.58 | Shefki | Pitbull4 is now fully working in combat. |
| 10:17.11 | Xinhuan | @describe battleground |
| 10:17.13 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/. Battleground. Battleground Timers |
| 10:17.13 | Fisker | i want my ssd :( |
| 10:17.23 | Shefki | Something PB3 failed miserably at. |
| 10:17.26 | Xinhuan | what happened to Capping |
| 10:17.39 | Shefki | In fact PItBull3 broke it for every unit frame since we tainted the secure templatees. |
| 10:17.39 | Xinhuan | thought it was good enough for most ppl lol |
| 10:17.59 | [Ammo] | Xinhuan: there is a WIP screenshot on the page |
| 10:18.01 | Shefki | I should say ckknight did. I didn't really have much in that. |
| 10:18.10 | Shefki | I spent forever trying to figure it out. |
| 10:18.15 | Xinhuan | oh i think i saw the screenshot u linked 1-2 days ago |
| 10:18.18 | Xinhuan | in here |
| 10:18.33 | Shefki | And didn't understand it till I worked on PB4 when I knew how stuff worked well enough to realize what we were doing wrong. |
| 10:18.41 | sztanpet | http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/battlegroundhud.jpg |
| 10:18.46 | Xinhuan | you mean what ck was doing wrong :p |
| 10:18.51 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r12 Battleground.toc: update toc with a slightly better description |
| 10:18.56 | Shefki | Xinhuan: Right. |
| 10:19.04 | Shefki | Xinhuan: He did the same thing in PB4. I just fixed it. |
| 10:19.16 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r13 Battlegrounds/AlteracValley.lua: woops, re-enable capping sync |
| 10:19.18 | Shefki | In particular calling SecureGroupHeader_Update = BAD |
| 10:19.28 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:19.55 | Fisker | http://blogs.technet.com/chris_hernandez/archive/2009/09/02/windows-7-upgrade-performance.aspx <-this makes absolutely no sense |
| 10:20.08 | Fisker | my upgrades never took more than 30 minutes |
| 10:20.10 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r14 / (2 files in 1 directory): add acetimer, note, remove to self if dbm fails |
| 10:20.40 | Fisker | though i don't see what data has to do with it |
| 10:20.45 | Shefki | There's only one thing that doesn't work exactly right in combat... If you have your groups set to have the frames click through, the frames made in combat won't. I can't come up with a way to not have the buttons clickable. |
| 10:20.45 | Fisker | unless people are retarded |
| 10:20.52 | Fisker | "Lets put 600GB of movies on the desktop!" |
| 10:20.59 | Fisker | i hate those people |
| 10:21.04 | Shefki | The templates ignore the paramters for turning off the clicks. |
| 10:21.22 | Shefki | So the only way to do it is EnableMouse() which I can't use in combat. |
| 10:21.39 | mitch0 | fisker: it was ms's stupid idea to put the desktop where it is |
| 10:22.26 | Megalon | Fisker: wow, that post includes some of the worst table layouts i've seen in a long time ;7 |
| 10:22.34 | Shefki | Anyway I'm proud of the state I've managed to get PitBull4 to. :) |
| 10:26.24 | Fisker | well you shouldn't! |
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| 10:30.32 | Fisker | maybe mitch0 |
| 10:35.20 | Wobin | Fisker: I had a fairly painless transfer from XP 32 to W7 64 |
| 10:35.35 | Fisker | Microsoft says otherwise |
| 10:35.47 | Wobin | The only thing that slowed me down was transferring the 'migration' files across USB to an external HDD |
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| 10:58.30 | xemacs | Shefki, youre around? |
| 10:58.36 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 10:58.47 | xemacs | you are a coauthor of pitbull4? :) |
| 10:58.53 | Shefki | Yes. |
| 11:00.40 | xemacs | okay, is it possible to change anchorpoints of frames? |
| 11:00.51 | Shefki | Not at this time. |
| 11:00.58 | xemacs | is it planned? :) |
| 11:01.21 | Shefki | There's a ticket open on it. Early in the development ckknight was opposed to it. |
| 11:03.21 | xemacs | would be nice to have, since im using different computers with different resolutions, having anchors would make things a lot easier |
| 11:06.57 | Shefki | xemacs: *nod* I'm aware. |
| 11:08.11 | Shefki | xemacs: Vote for this: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/411-position-unitframes-relative-to-anchors/ |
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| 11:08.37 | Gnarfoz | so, textureCacheSize doesn't quite work as advertised? setting it to 512*1024*1024 doesn't work at all, apparently, the ingame console takes the parameter directly in MBs and then says the maximum for my 4GB ram system is 64MB? :o |
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| 11:09.22 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I don't think you can reliably set that with the console command. |
| 11:09.29 | xemacs | Shefki: done :) thanks :) |
| 11:09.33 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: meaning? |
| 11:09.35 | nevcairiel | i think they changed it in 3.2 to take the value in MB |
| 11:09.41 | nevcairiel | before it was in bytes |
| 11:09.50 | Shefki | orly? |
| 11:09.53 | nevcairiel | default value is "32" now |
| 11:10.01 | nevcairiel | and not some long byte thing |
| 11:10.09 | Shefki | This might explain some issues I'm having. |
| 11:10.27 | Shefki | I have it set to 512*1024*1024 |
| 11:10.31 | Gnarfoz | me, too |
| 11:10.37 | nevcairiel | !api cvar |
| 11:10.40 | lua_bot | Found 11 possible results for 'cvar': GetCVarBool, RegisterCVar, CVAR_UPDATE, GetCVarAbsoluteMax, GetCVarMax, GetCVarDefault, SetCVar, GetCVar, GetCVarAbsoluteMin, GetCVarMin, GetCVarInfo |
| 11:10.42 | Gnarfoz | and enabling the ingame console revealed "texture cache size set to 0mb" |
| 11:10.47 | nevcairiel | try checking the default value |
| 11:10.48 | Gnarfoz | because that's an invalid setting now |
| 11:10.50 | nevcairiel | i think it was 32 now |
| 11:10.50 | Shefki | But my issues started when I upgraded to OS X 10.6 |
| 11:10.53 | Gnarfoz | default is "32" |
| 11:11.31 | Gnarfoz | still wondering why the maximum is 64 |
| 11:11.46 | nevcairiel | how much video ram do you have? |
| 11:11.48 | Gnarfoz | one would think wow could use more of the available ressources on higher end systems |
| 11:11.55 | Gnarfoz | it's dependent on system ram |
| 11:11.59 | Gnarfoz | not vram |
| 11:12.01 | nevcairiel | so you might think |
| 11:12.04 | Gnarfoz | so blue sayx |
| 11:12.05 | nevcairiel | how much do you have? :P |
| 11:12.05 | Gnarfoz | *says |
| 11:12.14 | Gnarfoz | 4GB RAM, 768MB VRAM |
| 11:12.26 | nevcairiel | well with 768 it should be plenty space too |
| 11:12.26 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r15 / (2 files in 2 directories): drycode use libSink for messaging |
| 11:12.28 | Gnarfoz | "This variable is limited to 64 MB on any system with more than 1 GB of RAM. Having more will not benefit World of Warcraft. For systems at the 1 GB or under, it's limited to 32 MB. These numbers are not based off of your video card. " |
| 11:12.29 | Shefki | nevcairiel: The texture cache is the system ram cache. not the VRAM one. |
| 11:12.33 | Gnarfoz | from: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=19378305810&sid=1 |
| 11:12.46 | nevcairiel | there you know why its limited :p |
| 11:12.55 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 11:12.58 | nevcairiel | Shefki, any sane renderer trys to keep textures directly in the vram |
| 11:13.05 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 11:13.07 | Gnarfoz | he's just saying "we don't use more" |
| 11:13.12 | Gnarfoz | not "we couldn't use more anyway" ;) |
| 11:13.23 | Gnarfoz | crap, need a pizza timer |
| 11:13.51 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Right, it keeps as much as it can in vram and the system ram cache is there to avoid thrashing the HD |
| 11:14.00 | industrial | Gnarfoz: for the delivery boy? heheheh. |
| 11:14.07 | Gnarfoz | industrial: no, for the pizza |
| 11:14.46 | Gnarfoz | hm, anyway, let's see if it helps even a bit |
| 11:14.59 | Shefki | Well just set my to 64 |
| 11:15.00 | Gnarfoz | annoyingly low performance in raids etc =[ |
| 11:15.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I just changed mine to that now |
| 11:16.09 | Shefki | I think they lie about it not using more than 64 though. |
| 11:16.11 | nevcairiel | btw anyone know why we didnt get points yesterday? |
| 11:16.38 | Shefki | I lost about 400MB of used ram from WoW doing that. |
| 11:17.09 | nevcairiel | maybe the cache was growing too big on some systems and causing other issues |
| 11:17.22 | nevcairiel | so they limited it now |
| 11:17.23 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 11:17.32 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Ohh I'm sure some people who didn't have the RAM to support it was setting it to what someone on a forum told them. |
| 11:17.55 | Stanzilla | so what is it now? /console textureCacheSize 64 ? |
| 11:18.05 | Shefki | But I've got 12 GB of ram. I think I can spare 512MB for a cache. :) |
| 11:18.13 | Shefki | Stanzilla: That's the supposed max now. |
| 11:18.17 | nevcairiel | Shefki, you have to remember that WoW is a 32bit app. |
| 11:18.18 | Stanzilla | okay |
| 11:18.22 | Gnarfoz | yeah, the console won't set it to more than 64 |
| 11:18.29 | Gnarfoz | it'll just say "that's above the max for your system" |
| 11:18.30 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I'm not on Windows. I don't have that limitation. |
| 11:18.41 | Shefki | nevcairiel: OS X provides 4 GB per app. |
| 11:18.46 | Gnarfoz | wow doesn't use 2gb anyway, so meh |
| 11:18.56 | nevcairiel | If wow is smart enough to use that, anyway. |
| 11:20.05 | nevcairiel | I do think you need to do some extra work to get your memory availability above 2gb |
| 11:20.14 | Shefki | But I'm well aware of the limtations. 512MB sseemed reasonable when it was usually using about 1GB and that left up to 2.5 GB of room before it hit the OS restrictions and 500 MB before it'd hit the 2GB from Windows that probably doesn't apply to me anyway. |
| 11:20.24 | Shefki | nevcairiel: On OS X? No |
| 11:20.38 | Shefki | Windows is the only OS that has the stupid 2 GB limitation. |
| 11:20.40 | Gnarfoz | there's a boot switch for windows that allows more than 2gb per process |
| 11:20.47 | Gnarfoz | but it's unnecessary anyway |
| 11:20.57 | Shefki | Besides it's 3GB now on windows anyway. |
| 11:21.23 | Shefki | They lowered the Kernel memory to 1GB and give user processes 3GB with XP or maybe it was Vista. Don't remember. |
| 11:22.02 | nevcairiel | but as Gnarfoz said, WoW usually never goes above 1.5 GB |
| 11:22.02 | nevcairiel | i never saw it even hit the 2gb |
| 11:22.14 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I've seen mine hit 2GB after I started using textureCacheSize |
| 11:22.22 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: that's exactly what that switch does, not sure that was a change made by MS |
| 11:22.23 | Shefki | But it doesn't usually go past it. |
| 11:22.31 | Gnarfoz | I think it's /USERVA something |
| 11:22.45 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I was under the impression it was the default now. |
| 11:22.50 | Gnarfoz | interesting, HeapUsage |
| 11:22.53 | Shefki | *shrug* I don't follow Windows too terribly closely. |
| 11:22.53 | nevcairiel | mine went from 1.1 to about 1.4 with the texture cache thing |
| 11:23.27 | nevcairiel | and for some reason my wow freezes now when i play it in fullscreen |
| 11:23.27 | Shefki | I gave up on it a long time ago. |
| 11:23.27 | nevcairiel | or even windowed-maximized |
| 11:23.27 | Gnarfoz | I wonder what the output of HeapUsage means :D |
| 11:23.28 | nevcairiel | (on linux) |
| 11:24.17 | Shefki | That said, it'd only hit 2GB after a night of raiding, so Recount is probably contributing to it a fair amount. |
| 11:24.43 | Gnarfoz | I doubt that, you'd hit the Lua interpreter's maximum block size (or whatever that is called correctly) long before that |
| 11:24.51 | Gnarfoz | "block too big" |
| 11:24.55 | Gnarfoz | Pizza time! |
| 11:25.03 | nevcairiel | Indeed, i doubt your recount used hundreds of mb of memory |
| 11:26.08 | Shefki | Recount ususally gives the block size error if I logout after raiding and back in without having cleared the meters. |
| 11:26.19 | Shefki | But as long as I don't log out it doesn't seem to care. |
| 11:27.10 | Shefki | I'll look after tomorrow night at how much memory it's using. |
| 11:27.21 | Shefki | I'm not particularly concerned though. |
| 11:28.52 | Shefki | Well I'm no longer gonna bother to report the fishing bot spam. |
| 11:28.58 | Shefki | I'm tired of doing it every single day. |
| 11:29.06 | Shefki | It's the same spam every day. |
| 11:29.21 | Shefki | If curse can't figure out how to clean it automatically then that's their problem. |
| 11:29.42 | vhaarr | I've reported the same character ingame for spamming for more than 2 months now. |
| 11:30.11 | vhaarr | (it's one of those keylogger website things that is whispered) |
| 11:30.11 | Shefki | Wow |
| 11:30.27 | vhaarr | It kind of _pisses me off_ that blizzard hasn't acted on it yet. |
| 11:30.55 | [Ammo] | blizzard europe doesn't care |
| 11:31.00 | vhaarr | indeed they do not |
| 11:31.19 | [Ammo] | you can post on forums and report in game all you want |
| 11:31.27 | [Ammo] | they don't care |
| 11:31.39 | Shefki | I just use BadBoy and don't care anymore. |
| 11:31.46 | Shefki | If I see something new I tell Funkeh` and he adds it. |
| 11:31.49 | industrial | cant they just hire one or two people to check on the starting areas of like 20 realms at the same time |
| 11:31.52 | nevcairiel | i never really had problems with spammers |
| 11:31.57 | nevcairiel | maybe they dont hit german servers .P |
| 11:31.59 | industrial | or just watch a queue of created character names? |
| 11:32.31 | industrial | you can filter the random name ones pretty easily |
| 11:32.32 | Shefki | I think you guys underestimate the scope of the problem. |
| 11:32.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: agreed |
| 11:33.10 | industrial | Shefki: I don't think the authkey on every account option is such a bad idea |
| 11:33.13 | Shefki | But I do find it frustrating that they don't filter the repetative ones. |
| 11:33.24 | industrial | just force everyone to get an authenticator - fixed! |
| 11:33.30 | Shefki | industrial: Ohh I think that'd be great. |
| 11:33.31 | industrial | but that just for the hacking tho |
| 11:33.47 | Shefki | But they'll never do that. |
| 11:33.51 | Shefki | Some people don't like them. |
| 11:34.14 | industrial | too lazy to type in a code? |
| 11:34.18 | Shefki | And trial accounts will never use them. |
| 11:34.19 | nevcairiel | its not like they are expensive these days, you can get a mobile authenticator for like 99c via SMS |
| 11:34.21 | Wobin | also, they'd just use the iphone one |
| 11:34.28 | industrial | (bet they arent when typing in a pirated key for software) |
| 11:34.29 | Wobin | cause that's free |
| 11:34.42 | Shefki | iphones aren't free. |
| 11:34.50 | Gnarfoz | loliphone |
| 11:35.01 | Wobin | eh, just run the app on an emulator |
| 11:35.01 | industrial | Gnarfoz: dangerous word. |
| 11:35.05 | Wobin | and you're done |
| 11:35.18 | nevcairiel | they have mobile authenticators for a whole load of phones now |
| 11:35.20 | nevcairiel | not only iphones |
| 11:35.32 | Wobin | truedat |
| 11:35.33 | Shefki | Not everyone has a cell phone. |
| 11:35.38 | industrial | my phone can only call and I prefer it that way :p |
| 11:35.47 | nevcairiel | so spend a few more bucks and get a real authenticator |
| 11:35.47 | Shefki | Pretty sure my phone isn't supported. |
| 11:35.52 | nevcairiel | or just ship one with the next xpac |
| 11:35.53 | Wobin | No WOW FOR YOU =P |
| 11:36.02 | Shefki | nevcairiel: I have an authenticator. |
| 11:36.03 | industrial | nah I'd just get a normal authenticator, no prob |
| 11:36.06 | Shefki | Hell I have 2 of them. |
| 11:36.28 | nevcairiel | Shefki, just saying, those things are not expensive, if you can afford the monthly account, you can get one of those too |
| 11:36.50 | Shefki | I'm not arguing that there aren't solutions. My point is they'll never force it becuase: |
| 11:36.57 | Shefki | a) Some people won't like it and never will. |
| 11:37.05 | Shefki | b) 12 million authenticators is hard to produce. |
| 11:37.19 | Gnarfoz | hard to produce? that's such a generic item, I doubt that very much |
| 11:37.29 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: They sell out of them all the time. |
| 11:37.46 | Gnarfoz | I doubt that's because *they* can't buy them fast enough |
| 11:37.47 | nevcairiel | I bet they could produce more if they wanted to |
| 11:38.06 | Gnarfoz | I also highly doubt they're producing them ^^ |
| 11:38.16 | nevcairiel | nah another company does |
| 11:38.18 | sb|work | morning |
| 11:38.20 | Shefki | Vasco does. |
| 11:38.22 | Gnarfoz | vasco.com on the back of mine |
| 11:38.25 | nevcairiel | there was an interview with a guy from them on blizzcon |
| 11:38.32 | Shefki | And I doubt Vasco can make 12 million of them on a short term. |
| 11:38.39 | nevcairiel | of course not short term |
| 11:40.52 | Gnarfoz | http://i29.tinypic.com/2e1a87n.jpg < wtf, built in heuristic AV in wow? :D |
| 11:41.48 | nevcairiel | they detected some very common viri with warden for a while, iirc |
| 11:41.48 | Wobin | wow =P |
| 11:41.48 | Wobin | gets rid of AV, don't need it now =P |
| 11:41.48 | Wobin | ponders suggesting they install WoW on all the work machines... |
| 11:41.49 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:42.13 | Wobin | ... and damn you Gnarfoz |
| 11:42.16 | Shefki | They are detecting keyloggers and other Malware now. |
| 11:42.23 | Wobin | I clicked 'Continue Anyway' on that image |
| 11:42.27 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 11:42.39 | Shefki | When I had dinner with some GMs at Blizzcon they said they're starting to ban accounts that trigger that stuff for 24 hours. |
| 11:42.47 | Shefki | To give people a chance to clean up their problem. |
| 11:42.49 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: the addiction is strong with you. ;) |
| 11:43.00 | industrial | Wobin: proof 'are you sure' boxed don't work. |
| 11:43.04 | industrial | boxes* |
| 11:43.07 | Shefki | If you keep getting it, it'll eventually stop banning you for 24 hours and evertime you login it'll reset your password. |
| 11:43.10 | Shefki | And email you a new password. |
| 11:43.24 | Shefki | So you'll end up with a one time password basically. |
| 11:43.43 | nevcairiel | they should sell you an authenticator while they are at it =p |
| 11:43.45 | Megalon | ONE TIME BABY!! |
| 11:43.47 | Megalon | come on! |
| 11:43.56 | Shefki | nevcairiel: Actually the email suggests you buy one. |
| 11:44.03 | Shefki | If you have an authenticator none of this takes effect. |
| 11:44.29 | Shefki | You'll get the warnings but your account will never be banned and the OTP thing never happens. |
| 11:44.42 | nevcairiel | when someone was hacked, they should force them to buy an authenticator before restoring stuff |
| 11:44.54 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 11:45.13 | Shefki | That'll just encourage the tinfoil hat people that think Blizzard is hacking people to get them to buy authenticators. |
| 11:45.29 | nevcairiel | right :P |
| 11:45.44 | Shefki | I had one of those idiots in my guild. |
| 11:45.50 | Shefki | After he got hacked twice wwe kicked him. |
| 11:46.02 | Shefki | He wouldn't buy an authenticator becuase it was a scam. |
| 11:46.13 | Shefki | After we kicked him he went to the forums and accused us of hacking him. |
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| 11:46.23 | Megalon | oh wtf, so we have this interface posting going on on our forum |
| 11:46.26 | Megalon | and our enhancer |
| 11:46.31 | Megalon | http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=interface2-1600v5k0.jpg |
| 11:46.40 | Megalon | and i highly doubt this is a joke from him |
| 11:46.45 | Shefki | Insisted it had to be one of our officers becuase he used the same password for his forum account as his wow account. |
| 11:46.49 | Megalon | :C |
| 11:46.52 | Shefki | The forums told him he was a fucking idiot for doing that. |
| 11:47.25 | nevcairiel | for some reason, WoW is the only place where i use a unique password |
| 11:47.36 | nevcairiel | all other stuff shares their password with something else |
| 11:47.42 | sztanpet | lawd thats such an awesome ui Megalon, what are you talking about, i can see every information like three times |
| 11:47.47 | sztanpet | thats like omagawd |
| 11:47.56 | Megalon | i got like two passwords |
| 11:48.00 | Megalon | wow and the firefox masterpw |
| 11:48.00 | Megalon | :7 |
| 11:48.21 | Shefki | Wow has a unique password for me... But I'm not terribly concerned anymore I have an authenticator. |
| 11:48.25 | Shefki | And I'm on a Mac anywya. |
| 11:49.19 | Shefki | We're just not as attractive of a target as Windows. Though I'm sure if Apple gains enough market share that'll change. |
| 11:50.54 | nevcairiel | I wonder if they'll ever bother to hit linux users |
| 11:50.58 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 11:51.10 | Shefki | No |
| 11:51.25 | nevcairiel | Although it might be kinda funny |
| 11:51.31 | nevcairiel | no one on linux runs any antivirus |
| 11:51.44 | Shefki | Neither do most Mac users. |
| 11:52.03 | nevcairiel | didnt they build an AV into the next osx? |
| 11:52.04 | Shefki | Hell Apple until recently has pretty much recommended that you didn't. |
| 11:52.09 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: same on passwords, and I'm ashamed because of it :p |
| 11:52.10 | Shefki | I wouldn't call it that. |
| 11:52.31 | mitch0 | nev: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/09/12/1413246 |
| 11:52.36 | Shefki | nevcairiel: The mounter for disk images has a few patterns in a plist that it knows are bad stuff. |
| 11:52.39 | Shefki | It's hardly AV. |
| 11:52.46 | Shefki | Anything naughty could defeat it easily. |
| 11:52.59 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: awesome UI indeed |
| 11:53.00 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i just read the headline :P |
| 11:53.01 | Shefki | And it only knows about a couple OS X malware stuff. |
| 11:53.15 | nevcairiel | anyway, got to go see my professor about my bachelor thesis |
| 11:53.16 | nevcairiel | laters |
| 11:53.19 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: seems he worked hard on it |
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| 11:53.31 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: obviously. "9 fps" says lots |
| 11:53.37 | Shefki | I'd compare it to a piece of tissiue paper over a door and claiming that as a security barrier. |
| 11:54.03 | Gnarfoz | also, love the typical unfinished DBM timer names |
| 11:54.04 | Shefki | That said, Apple didn't advertise the feature. They just put it in quietly. |
| 11:54.09 | Gnarfoz | PossibleNextCosmicSmash |
| 11:54.10 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 11:54.21 | Shefki | People use DBM? |
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| 11:54.26 | Gnarfoz | more than BigWigs |
| 11:54.28 | Gnarfoz | by a long shot, too |
| 11:54.35 | Shefki | I don't really understand why. |
| 11:54.43 | nevcairiel | people use DBM because its warnings tell you what to do |
| 11:54.47 | Gnarfoz | also, Tandanu hasn't yet got the memo that "Enrage" timers are actually "Berserk" timers these days |
| 11:54.48 | nevcairiel | aka, contain tactics |
| 11:55.04 | Gnarfoz | and because DBM authors don't treat their users like shit :P |
| 11:55.22 | Gnarfoz | besides that, I don't know why, either |
| 11:55.27 | Shefki | I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. |
| 11:55.50 | Megalon | also noticed that some people started to use dbm in my guild |
| 11:55.57 | Megalon | when 3.2 hit, because it got updates faster |
| 11:56.03 | Megalon | with timers etc they said |
| 11:56.13 | Fisker | My brother just successfully trolled me |
| 11:56.27 | Shefki | I've actually been turning off BigWigs lately. |
| 11:56.41 | Shefki | Finding it to be an unnecessary crutch. |
| 11:56.44 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: obvious. Tandanu is in Refuge, a top10 guild. To my latest knowledge, none of the bigwigs authors actually raids anymore? ^^ |
| 11:56.44 | Fisker | why would you do such a thing Shefki ? |
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| 11:57.02 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: not a raid leader, I suppose? |
| 11:57.10 | Fisker | DBM is a DDR mod |
| 11:57.12 | Wobin | http://www.patchtogether.com/store/store/view/id/155 |
| 11:57.14 | Fisker | BigWigs is a bossmod |
| 11:57.21 | sb|work | DDR? |
| 11:57.26 | Shefki | A what? |
| 11:57.29 | Navv | dance dance revolution? |
| 11:57.32 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 11:58.23 | Shefki | Gnarfoz: I run healing. But no I don't raid heal. |
| 11:58.29 | Shefki | err raid lead. |
| 11:58.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, well |
| 11:58.43 | Elkano | no, DDR is Deutsche Demokratische Republik ;) |
| 11:58.58 | Fisker | no Elkano |
| 11:58.59 | Fisker | gtfo |
| 11:59.01 | Megalon | an eastern germany mod |
| 11:59.12 | Gnarfoz | I at least need that much info, most of the time. And the beauty of BigWigs has, of course, always been, that I can turn off stuff I don't need to know |
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| 12:00.39 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: depending on where the two are from, that might actually be the case. :D |
| 12:01.15 | yoshimo | i've seen that the eyebeamtrigger for koralon was changed for english locale, do we need to change this for other locales as well ? |
| 12:04.09 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: only if the text has changed...? just guessing here. :D |
| 12:04.39 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: they all raid afaik :P |
| 12:04.50 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: not highest end, though? |
| 12:05.03 | Stanzilla | not sure :) |
| 12:05.17 | Shefki | who raids, what? |
| 12:05.17 | Gnarfoz | i.e. new boss modules are mostly contributed these days, don't hold me to that though |
| 12:05.27 | Wobin | Gnarfoz: eh, people who raid in highest end raids and raiding guilds, don't have time to upkeep mods =P |
| 12:05.31 | Shefki | I don't think that's accurate at all. |
| 12:05.32 | Stanzilla | Shefki: the BW authors |
| 12:05.34 | Gnarfoz | also, I haven't used deDE in ages, is BigWig's menu structure etc localized well these days? DBM certainly will have a good german localization, seeing that the authors are German :D |
| 12:05.48 | Shefki | The mods are written based on transcriptions and parses. |
| 12:05.49 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: are you kidding me? look at bigwig's contributors, *cough* |
| 12:05.54 | Stanzilla | Wobin: they do, caleb/tandanu? |
| 12:05.56 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: also, "Deus Vox Encounters" ;) |
| 12:06.14 | Elkano | Gnarfoz, EBB's author is German, too, still it's deDE locale sucks ;) |
| 12:06.15 | Gnarfoz | Shefki: errm, yeah, no. not completely at least. ;) |
| 12:06.16 | yoshimo | [ammo], when i log the chat during a raid , the raidwarnings should be logged witht the real player names instead of "Drescher: *** Verfolgt: %s ***" shouldnt they? |
| 12:06.22 | Gnarfoz | Elkano: I know :p |
| 12:06.34 | Shefki | And I'm in a decent raiding guild and I have time to work on mods. |
| 12:06.43 | yoshimo | gnarfoz, the dbm authors play only with english clients ;) |
| 12:07.00 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: how is that relevant to localizing the UI of DBM? |
| 12:07.28 | yoshimo | they didnt add german translations for triggers in the past |
| 12:07.40 | Gnarfoz | well, certainly, but triggers are not really part of the UI ;) |
| 12:08.02 | Gnarfoz | because most of the time when I ask people in my guild why they use DBM, they say "I just don't like BigWigs for some reason" ;o |
| 12:08.03 | yoshimo | maat from ensidia is coding bw.modules and ensidiafails, so doing both is possible |
| 12:08.20 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: yeah, like stan said =) |
| 12:08.27 | Gnarfoz | (maat = calebv) |
| 12:08.35 | yoshimo | gnarfoz, i dont like dbm either "for some reason" |
| 12:08.45 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 12:09.19 | yoshimo | i can't see why they sent this large amount of messages in battlegrounds |
| 12:09.26 | Gnarfoz | timer sync? |
| 12:10.16 | yoshimo | last time i had a closer look it was versioninformation from the whole bg |
| 12:11.15 | Bribri | that is important battleground information |
| 12:11.49 | Bribri | what if someone was out of date? how would you kill drek/van? |
| 12:12.13 | yoshimo | tank+heal+dps? i dont need an addon for this ;) |
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| 12:14.32 | Bribri | sarcasm lost so much value when the internet was created -_- |
| 12:15.07 | yoshimo | its hard to notice, yes |
| 12:16.41 | [Ammo] | DBM sends large amounts of version info during BGs |
| 12:16.52 | [Ammo] | timer info etc is sent via whisper to the person with the highest revision :p |
| 12:17.14 | [Ammo] | and saying none of the BW authors raid is bullshit |
| 12:17.26 | Gnarfoz | you know what I meant |
| 12:17.35 | [Ammo] | no I don't know what you meant |
| 12:18.03 | Gnarfoz | I even elaborated by adding "high end" |
| 12:18.21 | Fisker | what's highend? |
| 12:18.27 | [Ammo] | yeah, what is high end |
| 12:18.31 | Fisker | Naxx is probably pretty highend |
| 12:22.34 | Repo | 10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r17 Bazooka.lua: modified bar creation/deletion to recycle old bars |
| 12:23.05 | Gnarfoz | @project addon-spam-fu |
| 12:23.06 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'addon-spam-fu' |
| 12:23.10 | Gnarfoz | @project fubar-addon-spam-fu |
| 12:23.11 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'fubar-addon-spam-fu' |
| 12:23.12 | Gnarfoz | gahhh |
| 12:23.34 | Gnarfoz | @project fu-bar_addon-spam-fu |
| 12:23.35 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/fu-bar_addon-spam-fu/. FuBar_AddonSpamFu. Game: WoW. Siz (Manager/Author), yoshimo (Maintainer). Updated: 43 hours ago |
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| 12:24.17 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: are the "record this" options broken by chance? ^^ |
| 12:24.26 | Fisker | ahahaha |
| 12:24.32 | [Ammo] | yoshimo: I have no idea what logging you're talkinga bout |
| 12:24.34 | Fisker | take that fucking link achievement tards |
| 12:24.41 | Gnarfoz | I just selected "GUILD" and yet I have stuff from people I grouped with in there |
| 12:24.44 | yoshimo | ammo, /chatlog |
| 12:24.48 | [Ammo] | hmm |
| 12:24.50 | [Ammo] | I dunno |
| 12:25.03 | [Ammo] | transcriptor is my tool of choice for logging |
| 12:25.07 | Fisker | Some guy was looking for people to VoA10 and apparently i weren't good enough because ZOMG i no has full epic! |
| 12:25.20 | Fisker | So i join some group for a heroic run |
| 12:25.25 | Wobin | for... voa10? |
| 12:25.30 | Fisker | And i see that the WG timer was at 15 minutes |
| 12:25.43 | Fisker | Then i whisper to him "How's that raid going?" |
| 12:25.54 | Fisker | Then "ITT: We didn't link our [Brain] achievement" |
| 12:25.59 | Fisker | *Player is ignoring you* |
| 12:26.02 | Fisker | He didn't like that :D |
| 12:26.02 | Shefki | Fisker: I did VOA today and took random people from trade and LFG. |
| 12:26.10 | yoshimo | i think there is a "%s" too much in there |
| 12:26.20 | Shefki | Half way through some guy whispered me and told me my group was full of stuck up people because we didn't take him. |
| 12:26.35 | [Ammo] | yoshimo: ah that's what you mean |
| 12:26.35 | Shefki | Except he wasn't in LFG, and didn't respond to my request on trade. |
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| 12:26.38 | Shefki | lol |
| 12:26.48 | Fisker | You need full [legendary] and [a tribute to immortality] to join VoA10 raids |
| 12:27.10 | [Ammo] | yoshimo: might be a bug in some module |
| 12:27.18 | [Ammo] | chasing: ... |
| 12:27.30 | [Ammo] | unless this is not involving BigWIgs |
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| 12:28.33 | yoshimo | the whole raidgroup has been using bw in the past, there is no need to assume they changed addons |
| 12:28.49 | [Ammo] | well one of them might be using a fucked up version |
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| 12:28.54 | [Ammo] | I know funkeh messed up some api calls |
| 12:29.02 | [Ammo] | so figure out their version :) |
| 12:29.06 | asmodai | Imma Funkeh` you up |
| 12:29.31 | [Ammo] | if they're using latest release, then I guess it's an actual bug |
| 12:29.42 | [Ammo] | if they're using alpha versions, then I guess they need to upgrade to the latest |
| 12:29.53 | yoshimo | will there be another release with backported fixes? |
| 12:30.08 | [Ammo] | we were hoping to push a new proper release soon |
| 12:30.25 | [Ammo] | which requires a few more options |
| 12:30.35 | [Ammo] | but if that keeps waiting we'll do a backport release again |
| 12:31.14 | asmodai | @project transcriptor |
| 12:31.15 | Repo | asmodai: http://www.wowace.com/addons/transcriptor/. Transcriptor. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author), funkydude (Author). Updated: 17 days ago |
| 12:32.10 | asmodai | So how should I under logging for boss encounters? It enables when it encounters the boss? |
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| 12:33.34 | Fisker | only thing bigwigs need is customization |
| 12:33.59 | Fisker | actually think that would be a nice concept for bossmods |
| 12:37.16 | yoshimo | asmodai, you can use /transcriptor before and after the boss, or click the transcriptor icon |
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| 12:48.09 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10-beta * 9c73f40 /: [new tag] tag as v1.10-beta |
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| 12:58.53 | yoshimo | auctionator is sending me addonmessages although my ah-char isnt in a guild an has no friends on the fl either, it is sending messages in arathibasin as well... |
| 12:59.45 | Wobin | maybe it wants to sell something =P |
| 13:00.24 | Megalon | the voices, they are talking again |
| 13:01.03 | Pneumatus | yoshimo: yeh, im not sure what's going on with that... it syncs with random people and i don't know how it knows about them |
| 13:01.19 | Pneumatus | as i've not bothered looking at code |
| 13:01.56 | Wobin | A wheel of brie stuffed with chocolate and baked in a puff pastry. |
| 13:02.02 | yoshimo | "this guy is in the ah as well, send him some info" ? no idea, im downloading this addon to have a look at it |
| 13:02.07 | Wobin | http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/post/174821139/chocolate-brie-en-croute-a-wheel-of-brie-stuffed |
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| 13:10.46 | Fisker | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1253012254753.jpg |
| 13:10.47 | Fisker | haha |
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| 13:14.08 | Wobin | ... is that Today Tonight? |
| 13:14.27 | Fisker | idk Wobin |
| 13:14.28 | Fisker | IDK |
| 13:14.56 | Megalon | and who is the right guy :x |
| 13:15.04 | Wobin | Kanye West |
| 13:15.17 | Wobin | or are you talking about the presenter |
| 13:15.21 | Wobin | who could be a guy |
| 13:15.23 | Megalon | na the black one |
| 13:15.30 | Megalon | kanye west |
| 13:15.30 | Wobin | yeah, Kanye |
| 13:15.30 | Megalon | hm |
| 13:15.43 | Megalon | only reading his name on the youtube frontpage |
| 13:15.49 | Megalon | when i'm searching for some vids |
| 13:16.06 | Megalon | in like every second vid on the frontpage :x |
| 13:22.59 | Fisker | anyone got a number on how many relics of ulduar you need for hodir exalted? |
| 13:25.06 | Wobin | honoured -> exalted |
| 13:25.11 | Wobin | 1320 |
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| 13:33.56 | Fisker | fuck this |
| 13:34.00 | Fisker | good bye cruel Groktar |
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| 13:34.20 | Groktar | licks Fisker |
| 13:41.46 | Megalon | films |
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| 13:49.28 | Groktar | invites Megalon to join him |
| 13:49.34 | Megalon | licks |
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| 13:53.24 | Gnarfoz | sylvanaar: hm, does Prat's fading module work selectively in some way? I can't get it to work on my ChatFrame3 |
| 13:55.02 | asmodai | yoshimo: but what does it bring over normal combat logs? :) |
| 13:55.32 | yoshimo | transcriptor? |
| 13:55.36 | asmodai | btw, where are those official blizzard raid icons located? |
| 13:55.37 | asmodai | aye |
| 13:55.37 | [SW]Dodge | is there an easy way to checkif a number is a integer or a float? |
| 13:57.16 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: it also logs chat, boss emotes, etc. |
| 13:58.08 | asmodai | ahh, that's funny then :) |
| 13:58.19 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: so if the boss /cry's ... ;) |
| 13:58.35 | yoshimo | you can tell transcriptor which information it should log |
| 13:59.01 | yoshimo | and sometimes there is additional information in the [CLEU] section which you will not find in chatlog/combatlog.tx |
| 13:59.03 | yoshimo | t |
| 14:00.40 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r16 Battleground.lua: bugfix self->addon |
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| 14:04.18 | yoshimo | [Ammo] if two people in the raid run bw alpha versions and one release, could this cause raidwarnings to be announced to /rw twice? |
| 14:05.07 | [SW]Dodge | why doesn't wow have math.mod? :( |
| 14:05.46 | Odlaw | % i think |
| 14:07.01 | [SW]Dodge | ah well, forgot the operator =D |
| 14:09.03 | Wobin | smooth operator |
| 14:12.48 | [Ammo] | yoshimo: yeah ofcourse, anyone with the ability to RW can RW |
| 14:13.24 | [Ammo] | originally me and vhaarr wanted to remove the whole ability to RW warnings |
| 14:13.29 | [Ammo] | since anyone interested in the warning can install bigwigs |
| 14:13.41 | yoshimo | bw doesnt limit the number of announcers to 1 by itself, does it? |
| 14:13.47 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 14:13.53 | [Ammo] | no |
| 14:13.57 | [Ammo] | it never has |
| 14:14.06 | [Ammo] | but we are pondering making RW announce Leader only |
| 14:14.12 | [Ammo] | -> limited :) |
| 14:14.39 | [Ammo] | like I said, wanted to remove the whole announce |
| 14:14.45 | [Ammo] | be more inobtrusive to others |
| 14:14.55 | Wobin | just make it toggle off by default |
| 14:15.00 | Wobin | I like the ability |
| 14:15.17 | ckknight | [SW]Dodge: it's math.fmod anyway |
| 14:15.24 | [Ammo] | % ! |
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| 14:16.26 | yoshimo | there were to many promoted players yesterday, good to know |
| 14:16.49 | Wobin | hehe we promote everyone to assist in our raids |
| 14:16.55 | Wobin | makes readychecks easier |
| 14:17.09 | Wobin | and marking |
| 14:17.21 | yoshimo | maybe, but if a few of them have rwannounce enabled it gets spammy |
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| 14:18.50 | Wobin | true |
| 14:19.00 | Wobin | but who's watching raidchat in the middle of an encounter anyway? =) |
| 14:19.32 | Wobin | I'm either facefirst in boss crotch, or playing whack-a-mole with the raid health |
| 14:20.45 | Megalon | must-find-people-in-grid-without-reju-marker |
| 14:21.04 | Wobin | =( |
| 14:21.24 | Wobin | although I'm pretty good at guessing where a square is going to be in terms of damage =P |
| 14:21.55 | Wobin | if it's coloured orange/brown/yellow or pink, chances are they're melee, and chainheal will hit all similar colours =P |
| 14:22.05 | Wobin | (depending on if we have boomkin or not) |
| 14:22.29 | Wobin | of course, all the other healers have immediate heal priority after the assigned tanks |
| 14:23.14 | Wobin | and if lost for something to do, chainheal on the tank is hardly ever wasted due to melee raid damage |
| 14:25.02 | asmodai | Megalon: reju marker? |
| 14:25.10 | asmodai | oh, rejuvenation? |
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| 14:25.24 | Wobin | welcome to druid healing, 3.2 =) |
| 14:25.27 | asmodai | hehe |
| 14:25.30 | asmodai | <-- resto shammy |
| 14:25.35 | Wobin | ditto =) |
| 14:25.36 | asmodai | (next to my enhancement) |
| 14:25.44 | Wobin | shammy healing is fun |
| 14:25.49 | asmodai | Absolutely |
| 14:25.55 | Wobin | It's like running around with a spritzer bottle |
| 14:25.56 | asmodai | but we're definitely raid/group healers. |
| 14:26.01 | Wobin | totally |
| 14:26.14 | Wobin | we -can- mt heal, but not for prolonged periods of time |
| 14:26.20 | asmodai | *nod* |
| 14:26.22 | Wobin | Patchwerk kills me at times =P |
| 14:26.32 | asmodai | Wobin: how much should I focus on haste on gear? |
| 14:26.35 | Wobin | (not figuratively =P) |
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| 14:27.00 | Wobin | are you running out of mana? |
| 14:27.00 | Wobin | I generally focus on mp5, then haste |
| 14:27.17 | asmodai | mmm, not sure how I am now, got some new gear with mp5 again |
| 14:27.35 | asmodai | but I did have some minor issues in the past with prolonged fights due to some reason |
| 14:27.50 | Wobin | if you're not running with a lot of nontank/healer druids, then you might want to focus on mp5 |
| 14:28.00 | Wobin | innervate is a wonderful thing =) |
| 14:28.10 | asmodai | Very odd, had mp5 gear, but as I quested and did instances, my upgrade gear lost quite some mp5 stats for some reason. |
| 14:28.18 | asmodai | but now getting some again |
| 14:28.27 | Wobin | strange, most of the shammy healer stuff is mp5 |
| 14:28.37 | Wobin | (except the tier 8 for some reason...) |
| 14:28.46 | asmodai | Wobin: yeah, I'm sure my drops now will fix it |
| 14:28.49 | Wobin | there are also some good mp5 trinkets |
| 14:29.00 | Wobin | and haste trinkets |
| 14:29.16 | pentium166 | all the badge caster mail has mp5 on it |
| 14:29.21 | Wobin | also remember that crits won't use up water shield charges anymore |
| 14:29.21 | pentium166 | all of it |
| 14:29.35 | Wobin | pentium166: not the tier set |
| 14:29.50 | pentium166 | that doesn't count! |
| 14:30.44 | Wobin | well it's technially badge gear =) |
| 14:30.46 | pentium166 | and as a ten man raider i hate the way tier 9 is distributed. |
| 14:30.53 | Wobin | truth |
| 14:31.11 | Mikk | weird shit. i got a supposed Cataclysm Alpha invite. |
| 14:31.24 | Wobin | how valid does it look? =) |
| 14:31.37 | Mikk | but the URL seems to be legit. unless one of the letters is in haxed up utf8 or something |
| 14:31.45 | Mikk | BUT if i type it in myself i 404 of course =) |
| 14:32.08 | Wobin | tricksy |
| 14:32.10 | Wobin | what's the url? |
| 14:32.14 | asmodai | Mikk: easy to spot with, say, vim |
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| 14:32.39 | Mikk | well the url LOOKS like it'll go to http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysmalpha.html |
| 14:32.41 | Mikk | which is a 404 |
| 14:32.56 | Mikk | It's excellently written btw, I can imagine a lot of people falling for this |
| 14:33.03 | Wobin | view source =) |
| 14:34.32 | Mikk | weird shit. i wonder if maybe my webmail provider managed to sanitize it |
| 14:34.58 | Wobin | hehe cool =) "This looks like a phish.. *scrub scrub*" |
| 14:35.37 | Mikk | i'd assume they did something like send it out as haxd-up utf8 that would show properly but in actuality go somewhere else |
| 14:35.48 | Mikk | but then the process of webpage-izing it managed to turn it proper again |
| 14:35.50 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 14:37.06 | Ackis | @project ace3 |
| 14:37.15 | Repo | Ackis: More than one project was returned. Try supplying a game. Possible games: WoW, WAR. |
| 14:37.26 | Ackis | @project wow/ace3 |
| 14:37.27 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/. Ace3. Game: WoW. Kaelten (Manager/Author), Ammo (Author), mikk (Author), Nargiddley (Author), Nevcairiel (Author/Maintainer). Updated: 29 hours ago. Tickets: 10/72 |
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| 14:41.38 | yoshimo | where does the curseclient store the list of addons that could be installed after you hit "refresh list" ? |
| 14:42.57 | Mikk | in an SQL database in your %appdata%\something dir |
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| 14:43.05 | Mikk | yes, SQL |
| 14:44.42 | quiescens | mm |
| 14:45.08 | quiescens | is there a statement to skip to next iteration of the current loop in lua |
| 14:45.19 | Wobin | not in wowlua |
| 14:45.29 | quiescens | annoying |
| 14:45.35 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: not in _lua_ |
| 14:45.44 | Wobin | I vaugely recall 'continue' having a patch |
| 14:45.50 | jnwhiteh | not in stock Lua |
| 14:45.54 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:45.55 | jnwhiteh | not even 5.2 |
| 14:46.09 | Wobin | not that it's not -possible- =) |
| 14:46.16 | Wobin | Just that it's not in wowlua specifically =) |
| 14:46.57 | Wobin | what stats do tree druids go for? |
| 14:46.57 | quiescens | so, expect a lot of large if blocks I guess |
| 14:47.02 | quiescens | spellpowah |
| 14:47.41 | Wobin | how much +heal would a treedruid want in Uld10? |
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| 14:48.56 | Ackis | Mikk: ace3, the new alphas with it, how stable are they? |
| 14:49.40 | [Ammo] | stable |
| 14:50.15 | [Ammo] | apart maybe from some layouting issues that might crop up with acegui |
| 14:51.51 | Ackis | hmm, mind looking at the latest comment here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8512-AckisRecipeList.html the guy is doing something weird w/ BT4 profiles/etc so I'm not sure if a) he's a moron, b) bt4 is broken, c) ace3 has an issue or d) arl has an issue |
| 14:52.15 | Repo | 10libwrapperhealcomm-1-0: 03Shadowed 07master * r3-3-g3042a0b LibWrapperHealComm-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed the wrapper not parsing multi target heals as well |
| 14:53.44 | Fisker | STOP MAINTANENCING MY FORUMS |
| 14:54.04 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.3-7-gb919172 LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed issue where an invalid unit would cause a UnitGUID error |
| 14:54.45 | Grum | Ackis: someone actually 'fiddled' with Ace3 libs and wonders why it breaks |
| 14:55.05 | Ackis | they fiddled with the bt4 profiles |
| 14:55.25 | Grum | nono, "I'm guessing you're embedding a slightly different ACE lib that is causing the issue." |
| 14:55.32 | Grum | 'a slightly different acelib' |
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| 14:55.59 | Ackis | I may have interpreted that differently |
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| 14:56.33 | Grum | well, he manually fucks about, either way he should ask the author of the other addon to patch/change or just not whine |
| 14:57.20 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 14:57.21 | Fisker | kill me |
| 14:57.23 | Wobin | omg http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/09/deathstench/ |
| 14:57.41 | Wobin | "Of course, there was nothing to do but grind up more bugs. The team found that their concoction repelled not just cockroaches, but ants, catepillars, woodlice and pillbugs." |
| 14:58.08 | aestil | algalon down! |
| 14:58.11 | aestil | server first :) |
| 14:58.19 | Ackis | @project bt4 |
| 14:58.20 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'bt4' |
| 14:58.20 | Wobin | woo! grats! |
| 14:58.21 | aestil | [obviously assbackwards server] |
| 14:58.26 | Ackis | @project bartendert-4 |
| 14:58.28 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'bartendert-4' |
| 14:58.30 | Ackis | wow I fail |
| 14:58.33 | Ackis | @project bartender-4 |
| 14:58.33 | aestil | ackis you fail |
| 14:58.34 | Repo | Ackis: No project found that matches 'bartender-4' |
| 14:58.36 | Ackis | @project bartender4 |
| 14:58.37 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bartender4/. Bartender4. Game: WoW. Nevcairiel (Manager/Author). Updated: 21 days ago. Tickets: 36/188 |
| 14:58.41 | Ackis | finally |
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| 14:58.58 | Grum | aestil: why backwards? there are loads of servers without algalon down :P |
| 14:58.59 | Grum | anyhow gz!! |
| 14:59.19 | aestil | loads? |
| 14:59.25 | aestil | oh, i suppose. |
| 14:59.30 | aestil | wowprogress says its like US 180 |
| 14:59.30 | Ackis | I have alagalon down... IN MY PANTS |
| 14:59.40 | Ackis | has never done the new raids btw :( |
| 14:59.54 | aestil | you are a healer ackis? |
| 15:00.03 | Stanzilla | he's a noob :( |
| 15:00.04 | Grum | his ingame name is slackis |
| 15:00.08 | Grum | that explains enough! |
| 15:00.11 | Repo | 10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r18 / (2 files in 2 directories): default config reorg, font/color settings went back to bars |
| 15:00.40 | Ackis | aestil: aye but I am a n00b now |
| 15:01.24 | Ackis | I still am better than Stanzilla though! :P |
| 15:01.47 | Stanzilla | lies |
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| 15:03.03 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r24 Loremaster.lua: Added tracking of zone changes |
| 15:05.10 | aestil | Ackis: you are horde right? if you are interested in server transfer and can write a decent application you should apply. www.churchguild.org |
| 15:05.18 | aestil | 3 nights a week raiding guild. |
| 15:05.24 | Ackis | oh really? |
| 15:06.00 | Wobin | I hate writing guild apps |
| 15:06.03 | Ackis | and aye imma horde |
| 15:06.07 | Wobin | It's like applying for a job >< |
| 15:06.09 | aestil | yeah. we are still recruiting healers i believe. |
| 15:06.21 | Wobin | "Explain three incidents where you showed leadership..." |
| 15:06.28 | Wobin | "Where do you see yourself in three years..." =P |
| 15:06.29 | quiescens | lol |
| 15:06.33 | aestil | yeah, we aren't that serious. but some thought into your app is appreciated. |
| 15:06.49 | quiescens | include 3 references |
| 15:06.56 | aestil | like, one of our questions is 'why are you leet?' |
| 15:07.09 | aestil | which is just a joke question, for 'tell us how you play your class' |
| 15:07.21 | Wobin | "I'm only 122t" |
| 15:07.34 | aestil | so when a hunter goes 'I spec BM cause its the best spec out there and I make sure to have the aimed shot glyph cause its awesome!' |
| 15:07.40 | aestil | then we know 'failzor!' |
| 15:07.47 | Wobin | better than a munter |
| 15:07.57 | Ackis | "I bind everything to PoH/CoH and then faceroll" |
| 15:08.19 | aestil | my wife has the legendary mace. |
| 15:08.27 | Megalon | "Would you heal a trolls?" |
| 15:08.28 | aestil | we really need to get a second one. |
| 15:08.37 | aestil | those things are OP |
| 15:08.42 | Wobin | aestil: I have a shard =( |
| 15:08.51 | Wobin | I'll never get to the point of getting the mace =P |
| 15:08.53 | aestil | I think our second one has 22 shards? |
| 15:09.05 | Megalon | it's orange |
| 15:09.13 | Megalon | not enough of a point? |
| 15:09.28 | Megalon | ah, you will never get to the point ;x |
| 15:09.31 | Wobin | yeah =P |
| 15:09.38 | Ackis | that mace never really turned me on |
| 15:09.44 | Wobin | it's a nice mace |
| 15:09.46 | Ackis | give me a staff |
| 15:09.46 | Megalon | well, it's autoupgrading |
| 15:09.47 | Wobin | but.. eh |
| 15:09.49 | Megalon | that's nice |
| 15:09.49 | Wobin | it's a mace |
| 15:10.10 | Wobin | rather, I should rephrase, it's an -item- |
| 15:10.10 | Megalon | never bother about weapons until 4.0 |
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| 15:11.32 | Wobin | Megalon: that's a never ending claim |
| 15:11.40 | Wobin | as soon as 4.0 rolls around, you'll be saving til 5 =P |
| 15:11.51 | Wobin | oh |
| 15:11.55 | Wobin | nm me |
| 15:11.57 | Wobin | I'm tired |
| 15:12.00 | Wobin | goes to bed |
| 15:13.51 | Ackis | oh I just realized I get my raptor today /hig5self |
| 15:14.56 | quiescens | o.O |
| 15:17.59 | Megalon | from above???? |
| 15:20.06 | Ackis | above? |
| 15:20.15 | Ackis | my raptor == wintersaber mount for teh horde |
| 15:20.29 | durcyn | you mean ravasaur |
| 15:21.11 | Ackis | bleh :P |
| 15:21.18 | Ackis | all I know is mount++ feats++ |
| 15:21.41 | [Ammo] | anyone know if the starttimer for battlegrounds is different per battleground or always 2 minutes? |
| 15:21.49 | [Ammo] | or is it arenas that have a different one |
| 15:23.49 | Fisker | I'M GETTING MY DAMN SSD |
| 15:24.48 | [Ammo] | sucks to be you |
| 15:25.17 | Ackis | Super Star Destroyer!!! |
| 15:25.23 | Ackis | I only have a VSD :( |
| 15:25.35 | Ackis | I want to upgrade to an ISD before going for the SSD |
| 15:27.09 | [Ammo] | Sexual Starvation Device |
| 15:27.16 | [Ammo] | to prevent reproduction of fiskers |
| 15:28.49 | Fisker | don't worry |
| 15:28.53 | Fisker | i made that decision on my own |
| 15:29.08 | [Ammo] | and the world is relieved |
| 15:29.11 | Fisker | ^^ |
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| 15:29.33 | Fisker | Wouldn't want to get outtrolled |
| 15:29.48 | Megalon | outrolled |
| 15:29.54 | Fisker | no Megalon |
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| 15:29.55 | Megalon | starts rollin' |
| 15:30.02 | Fisker | starts trollin' |
| 15:30.36 | Megalon | now we need a hater |
| 15:31.17 | durcyn | i hated you before you even started thsi |
| 15:31.21 | durcyn | this even |
| 15:32.28 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r17 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 15:32.31 | Repo | remove DBM sync, as far as I can see it'll never work for battlegrounds. They only sync when in combat with a boss and well, you never are in there |
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| 15:35.54 | Repo | 10battleground (experimental): 03Ammo * r18 Battleground.lua: |
| 15:35.57 | Repo | random comment for repackage after removing expirimental status |
| 15:36.07 | [Ammo] | hrmf, it's nolonger experimental you bitch |
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| 15:43.29 | Fisker | battleground is shit |
| 15:43.30 | Fisker | :D |
| 15:52.11 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r19 / (3 files in 3 directories): move button creation to core |
| 15:52.14 | Repo | change elapsed to battleground elapsed for cosmetics |
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| 15:57.33 | Bruners | hi ckknight |
| 15:59.22 | ckknight | hey Bruners |
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| 16:22.02 | sb|work | WTF Ackis |
| 16:22.07 | sb|work | Collectinator-Alpha 3\CollectinatorFrame.lua:2510: main function has more than 200 local variables <--- |
| 16:22.22 | Stanzilla | best error ever |
| 16:22.49 | Megalon | you got localowned |
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| 16:24.15 | Ackis | yah |
| 16:24.17 | Ackis | I know |
| 16:24.19 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:24.30 | Ackis | I want to talk to Torhal_ about what we should do :P |
| 16:25.05 | quiescens | lotsavariables |
| 16:26.14 | Ackis | is that error lua or wow? |
| 16:27.18 | ArrowmasterClass | lua |
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| 16:34.30 | aestil | why does the T9 content get its own completely seperate ranking on the guild ranking stuff? |
| 16:34.52 | aestil | shouldn't they be added together with the T8 achievments? |
| 16:35.32 | aestil | like, if a guild is 4/5 in Trial of the Crusader, but hasn't killed Algalon or mimiron or something, wouldn't they be 'behind'. |
| 16:37.57 | sb|work | Bibi-: noooo! :p |
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| 17:07.15 | Adirelle | Shadowed: are you there ? |
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| 17:14.30 | Higdur | is there a slashcommand for bringing up the proximity monitor in bigwigs? |
| 17:15.59 | Stanzilla | in the alpha you just enter test mode via the gui |
| 17:17.24 | Fisker | hey Daemona |
| 17:17.27 | Fisker | ssd tomorrow :3 |
| 17:17.40 | Daemona | i canceled your order |
| 17:17.47 | Higdur | Stanzilla: with alpha refering to the ace3 version? |
| 17:17.47 | Fisker | :( |
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| 17:18.44 | Higdur | ehm, now I'm confusing things with ora I think :) |
| 17:18.51 | Stanzilla | Higdur: yes |
| 17:19.06 | Stanzilla | (the alpha is based on ace3) |
| 17:20.17 | Higdur | I'm guessing that isn't available without dev svn access though? |
| 17:21.13 | Zeksie | guess again |
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| 17:23.13 | Stanzilla | alpha zips are enabled :) |
| 17:24.07 | Fisker | ace3 of wat? |
| 17:24.25 | ulic | bigwigs |
| 17:24.59 | Ackis | I use Ace4 |
| 17:25.12 | ulic | yea, it's dope |
| 17:25.40 | Stanzilla | Ace4 is just a renamed LibLordFalander |
| 17:25.53 | ulic | and it's still dope :P |
| 17:32.29 | Gnarfoz | damn, I can't even remember. what was LibLordFarlander 1.0 called? |
| 17:32.34 | Gnarfoz | some guy with A...? |
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| 17:33.02 | Stanzilla | what do you mean? LibLordFarlander was LibHelper before |
| 17:33.16 | steev | argh, i won the t8.5 helm token last night (i think its helm, its from mim25) and there are no tokens in my bag today |
| 17:33.21 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: no, the guy before him |
| 17:33.26 | Stanzilla | aah |
| 17:33.30 | Stanzilla | urm the italian guy |
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| 17:33.55 | Fisker | I use Ace5 |
| 17:34.30 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: Alar! |
| 17:34.35 | Foxor | Gnarfoz: !alarlib :P |
| 17:35.44 | Stanzilla | http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9964/ff4p.png nom nom |
| 17:37.23 | Fisker | final fantasy 4 is a game |
| 17:37.25 | Fisker | durr |
| 17:37.25 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r20 Battleground.lua: fix sink usage proper |
| 17:37.30 | steev | why would anyone use win32 |
| 17:37.51 | sb|work | [Ammo]: support for other BGs already in? |
| 17:37.57 | sb|work | @describe battleground |
| 17:37.58 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/. Battleground. Battleground Timers in a HUD around the Blizzard BG status |
| 17:38.26 | steev | wow, thats spiffy |
| 17:39.04 | Gnarfoz | so who do I annoy with bigwigs errors right now? [Ammo] perhaps? |
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| 17:39.30 | [Ammo] | sb|work: no, only AV atm |
| 17:39.39 | [Ammo] | but it's getting better already :) |
| 17:40.31 | Funkeh` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mhp2XThT48 |
| 17:40.35 | Funkeh` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRnPbSKUMEs |
| 17:40.42 | Funkeh` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRnPbSKUMEs |
| 17:40.45 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: got this on Emalon just now: http://paste.wowace.com/1136/ :o |
| 17:40.47 | Funkeh` | oops |
| 17:41.17 | Funkeh` | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNanKfY5T9A |
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| 17:43.09 | steev | Gnarfoz: #bigwigs |
| 17:43.14 | [Ammo] | sb|work: new screenie: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/battlegroundhud.jpg |
| 17:43.23 | [Ammo] | including the sink spammage in raidwarning :p |
| 17:43.24 | Gnarfoz | steev: you're kidding me, right |
| 17:43.55 | Stanzilla | he is not :P |
| 17:44.16 | Shadowed | Adirelle: am now, going to get food in 15m though |
| 17:44.25 | [Ammo] | Gnarfoz: that's where we hang out |
| 17:44.31 | [Ammo] | to handle alpha errors :p |
| 17:44.47 | Gnarfoz | insane |
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| 17:44.49 | Gnarfoz | want me to repost there? |
| 17:44.51 | steev | Funkeh`: thats awesome |
| 17:50.02 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6295 Core/Core.lua: bugfix sync |
| 17:51.10 | Fisker | you really should feel bad [Ammo] |
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| 17:59.36 | Repo | 10chatter: 03grum 07master * 9ac061f Modules/ChatLink.Lua: [+1 commit] ChatLink: Fix problem with >1 achievement links in a custom channel. |
| 18:03.21 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r21 / (2 files in 2 directories): forgot 2 yells |
| 18:04.34 | Grum | @project battleground |
| 18:04.35 | Repo | Grum: http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/. Battleground. Game: WoW. Ammo (Manager/Author). Updated: 26 minutes ago |
| 18:06.06 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 07master * b2.3-8-g9b9bd1c LibHealComm-4.0.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed pending heal ID maps not being updated when a record is removed |
| 18:06.10 | Caleb| | ~wowalert |
| 18:06.11 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 18:09.41 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r22 Battlegrounds/AlteracValley.lua: fix chatmesssage for captains defeat |
| 18:10.37 | Shadowed | [Ammo] I dunno what you're doing specifically, but SSPVP3 has a lot of the battleground messages already in it |
| 18:10.41 | Shadowed | that all work if you want to just nab those |
| 18:11.16 | [Ammo] | Shadowed: oh hmm |
| 18:11.26 | [Ammo] | well I did take the idea for the chatrewrites |
| 18:11.29 | Shadowed | It's got all of the formulas and junk so yea, just steal whatever you want |
| 18:11.29 | [Ammo] | but built my own log of yells |
| 18:11.47 | [Ammo] | found your reset detection of Vandarr has the wrong yell though :) |
| 18:11.54 | Shadowed | that's not surprising! |
| 18:12.01 | [Ammo] | hehe |
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| 18:12.18 | Shadowed | I stopped seriously maintaining it maybe a year ago when I lost icomplete interest in PVP |
| 18:12.23 | [Ammo] | ah ok |
| 18:12.27 | [Ammo] | well I liked sspvp3 |
| 18:12.32 | Shadowed | but yea, steal whatever you want :p |
| 18:12.33 | [Ammo] | but I hated the way it's overlay worked |
| 18:12.38 | Shadowed | I hated the overlay too to be honest |
| 18:12.45 | Shadowed | but I didn't like the bar method that Capping used |
| 18:12.51 | [Ammo] | http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/battlegroundhud.jpg |
| 18:12.56 | [Ammo] | that's how my thing looks now |
| 18:13.23 | Shadowed | It's an intersting way of showing it, though I probably wouldn't show who already had something captured |
| 18:13.27 | Shadowed | since the battlefield minimap can show that |
| 18:13.38 | [Ammo] | but the battlefield minimap is crowded with players |
| 18:13.40 | [Ammo] | and dots and shit |
| 18:13.40 | Shadowed | true |
| 18:13.42 | [Ammo] | no easy overview |
| 18:13.49 | Shadowed | Compress it maybe? |
| 18:13.53 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 18:14.04 | [Ammo] | it's only this crowded for AV |
| 18:14.09 | Shadowed | that's true |
| 18:14.11 | [Ammo] | no other BG has as many landmarks |
| 18:14.16 | Shadowed | I do like that method of displaying data though |
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| 18:14.48 | [Ammo] | I did figure out a good way of finding out who is capping what and when |
| 18:15.11 | Shadowed | ? |
| 18:15.24 | Shadowed | Oh you mean parsing messages? |
| 18:15.27 | [Ammo] | no |
| 18:15.29 | [Ammo] | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetMapLandmarkInfo |
| 18:15.52 | [Ammo] | texture indexes |
| 18:15.55 | [Ammo] | [1] = {"mine", "neutral"}, |
| 18:15.56 | [Ammo] | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.09 | Shadowed | ahh nic |
| 18:16.09 | Shadowed | e |
| 18:17.13 | Shadowed | Let me know once you have something beta/stableish, I'll probably point people looking at SSPVP towards yours |
| 18:17.25 | [Ammo] | I will |
| 18:17.44 | [Ammo] | although I won't do autorelease and queue management etc |
| 18:17.51 | [Ammo] | other addons can do that kinda drek |
| 18:17.57 | Shadowed | queue management isn't really necessary anymore |
| 18:18.24 | Shadowed | poofs |
| 18:18.57 | [Ammo] | poofs as well |
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| 18:43.51 | Gnarfoz | @describe grid |
| 18:43.52 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/grid/. Grid. A modular, lightweight, and screen-estate saving grid of party/raid unit frames. |
| 18:43.56 | Gnarfoz | @project grid |
| 18:43.57 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/grid/. Grid. Game: WoW. Pastamancer (Manager/Author), Maia (Author), Phanx (Maintainer). Updated: 13 days ago. Tickets: 19/199 |
| 18:44.09 | Gnarfoz | hmpf, none of those hang around here anymore, meh. |
| 18:44.53 | nevcairiel | phanx can be reached through the forum, at least |
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| 18:55.48 | Pneumatus | i can't decide if i like bartender :< |
| 18:56.01 | sb|work | mhh |
| 18:56.24 | nevcairiel | just keep it installed, its not important if you actually use it |
| 18:56.26 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 18:56.34 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 18:56.52 | Pneumatus | im thinking i might just hack rActionBarStyler |
| 18:57.06 | Pneumatus | as it puts the bars i want in the right positions at leas |
| 18:57.34 | Pneumatus | trying to position bt4 bars over a bloody texture to make it look pretty is making my head hurt |
| 18:57.59 | nevcairiel | use the +/- buttons on the positioning tab :p |
| 18:58.06 | Pneumatus | that's not the problem |
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| 18:58.29 | Pneumatus | x/y coords at least let you have many decimal places |
| 18:58.31 | Pneumatus | unlike scale |
| 18:58.34 | Pneumatus | and padding |
| 18:59.03 | Pneumatus | i guess i could just edit the db every time |
| 18:59.07 | Pneumatus | but that would be annoying |
| 18:59.37 | Pneumatus | plus, i've got no idea what scale+padding i need them at to make them fit this stupid texture |
| 18:59.42 | Pneumatus | i could just delete the texture |
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| 19:02.26 | mitchnull | pneumatus: what are you raving about? |
| 19:03.32 | Pneumatus | mitchnull: nothing really, im trying to use http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12975-rBottomBarStylerDiablo.html but getting BT bars to sit over the texture is proving more difficult than i thought |
| 19:03.54 | mitchnull | ah. fluff... |
| 19:05.25 | Pneumatus | and i'd hoped i'd have enough room for grid between bars and icehud, but that doesnt look like its gonna happen :< |
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| 19:08.03 | asmodai | heh, just spent the past few minutes updating http://www.wowwiki.com/EU_English_realms_info |
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| 19:17.20 | Pneumatus | hmm, i wonder, it's probably a good time to think about switching to an all-in-one bag addon isnt it :o |
| 19:17.50 | Zeksie | hate all-in-ones.. |
| 19:17.52 | durcyn | go bagnon or go home |
| 19:18.05 | Zeksie | using Baggins atm.. like the categories + pseudo bags |
| 19:18.40 | Pneumatus | why not onebag3, durcyn? |
| 19:18.50 | pompy | agrees with durcyn |
| 19:19.52 | Codayus | ArkInventory > * |
| 19:19.52 | Pneumatus | moh, no screenshots for baggins either |
| 19:21.17 | mitchnull | luggage is shaping up for those who like separate bags |
| 19:21.43 | mitchnull | I gave in though and switched to bagnon. need an inventory sorter addon though |
| 19:22.00 | Zeksie | only thign with baggins is a bit slow on refreshes (opening bank etc) |
| 19:22.44 | Codayus | ArkInventory is quite good if you like baggins, although it's been long enough since I tried baggins I couldn't accurately say how it compares any more. |
| 19:23.30 | Pneumatus | going to have a go with bagnon, although i'm not sure if i'll be able to cope with not using default bagframes |
| 19:26.09 | sztanpet | arkinventory rocks the socks off of everything, you just have to disable its automatic sorting feature because it hangs wow for a few seconds when opening your bags |
| 19:26.53 | Codayus | ...not for me. Oo |
| 19:27.10 | pentium166 | it hangs for me when i accidentally drag one bag over top of another one |
| 19:29.29 | sztanpet | sure, everything does that |
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| 19:49.14 | durcyn | Pneumatus: does it not suck yet? |
| 19:49.39 | Pneumatus | bagnon? |
| 19:49.52 | rubik | <3 Bagnon |
| 19:50.23 | durcyn | Pneumatus: no, onebag3 |
| 19:50.28 | Pneumatus | oh, no idea |
| 19:50.34 | Pneumatus | i'm having a play with bagnon atm |
| 19:51.46 | steev | <3 bagnon |
| 19:52.39 | aestil | baggins is my favorite. |
| 19:52.46 | aestil | but I love sorted all in one bags. |
| 19:52.50 | steev | [Ammo]: does battleground support announcing the timers to the bg? |
| 19:52.50 | aestil | it does a pretty good job. |
| 19:53.26 | steev | i've never believed in profession specific bags, so mrplow works fine for my needs |
| 19:53.27 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r23 / (3 files in 3 directories): first simplistic arathi basin overview |
| 19:53.28 | Pneumatus | i like that bagnon you can alt-drag even with frames locked |
| 19:53.30 | Repo | clearly I can move some stuff to the core as this is a major copypaste from AV :p |
| 19:54.01 | steev | [Ammo]: argh! i just grabbed r22 :-P |
| 19:54.46 | [Ammo] | steev: it doesn't atm |
| 19:55.01 | [Ammo] | steev: but I'll let you shift-click eventually |
| 19:55.05 | [Ammo] | on a per timer basis |
| 19:56.11 | steev | good deal |
| 19:56.20 | [Ammo] | although, if people can't be arsed installing a BG timer addon they can DIAF |
| 19:56.28 | steev | i agree |
| 19:56.29 | [Ammo] | I'll think on it some :p |
| 19:57.03 | aestil | what is battleground doing? |
| 19:57.06 | steev | how about a chat monitor so that when someone says "time{r} on X" |
| 19:57.09 | aestil | I mean, what is it for? |
| 19:57.18 | steev | it sends them a whisper saying nub install a damn timer mod |
| 19:57.44 | Pneumatus | will it be more awesome than capping? |
| 19:58.25 | steev | it already is! |
| 19:58.35 | [Ammo] | it isn't |
| 19:58.38 | [Ammo] | it's far from complete |
| 19:58.39 | Megalon | will it be more awesome than http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W0Cryg0uEw ? |
| 19:58.49 | [Ammo] | aestil: http://connected.dnd.utwente.nl/~wouter/battlegroundhud.jpg |
| 19:59.22 | aestil | ah. |
| 19:59.39 | aestil | so, stuff like, 'so and so picked up your flag' and then you can click it to try and target him? |
| 19:59.48 | [Ammo] | I might add that |
| 19:59.49 | [Ammo] | not sure yet |
| 19:59.55 | [Ammo] | kinda dont use that drek myself |
| 20:00.24 | aestil | did anyone pick up a new lynnfield chip? I'm curious to know how wow does in raids with it. |
| 20:05.19 | steev | hrm |
| 20:05.36 | steev | [Ammo]: i'd love that ability |
| 20:05.41 | steev | the click to target flag carrier |
| 20:05.47 | [Ammo] | like I said, thinking on it :) |
| 20:05.55 | steev | do have a question about the timer... |
| 20:05.59 | [Ammo] | ok shoot |
| 20:06.00 | steev | gimme a sec |
| 20:07.22 | steev | http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/timer.png |
| 20:07.50 | steev | timer is way off if you don't join immediately |
| 20:07.54 | [Ammo] | hmmm |
| 20:07.57 | [Ammo] | it shouldn't be |
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| 20:08.39 | [Ammo] | and it hasn't been for me yet |
| 20:08.43 | [Ammo] | I request the time from blizzard |
| 20:08.46 | sylvanaar | Gnarfoz did you figure out the answer to your question |
| 20:08.52 | Repo | 10loggerhead: 03rsmozang * r101 LoggerHead.lua: - Fix for prompting of unvisited instances locations |
| 20:09.33 | mitchnull | someone broke LibQTip[Click] |
| 20:09.57 | mitchnull | just LibQTip |
| 20:11.21 | [Ammo] | steev: I'll run some more tests myself after I shuffle things into the core more |
| 20:11.30 | steev | hrm |
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| 20:13.10 | [Ammo] | might have something todo with loading lag or something |
| 20:14.00 | mitchnull | should I expect an LDB's OnClick to change? |
| 20:14.08 | [Ammo] | I use GetBattlefieldInstanceRunTime() which gives me time since the BG was spawned on blizz server |
| 20:14.30 | [Ammo] | but for it to be over 30 seconds wrong is weird |
| 20:17.39 | mitchnull | gah |
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| 20:22.35 | pompy | @project genie |
| 20:22.37 | Repo | pompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/genie/. Genie. Game: WoW. adjo (Manager/Author). Updated: 41 days ago. Tickets: 4/22 |
| 20:25.24 | Fisker | any pala tanks? |
| 20:25.53 | Pneumatus | i think they all got left in hyjal |
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| 20:27.25 | Aeyan| | My roommate plays one, if that helps |
| 20:27.26 | Aeyan| | Heh |
| 20:28.39 | Ackis | http://www.massively.com/2009/09/15/massivelys-star-trek-online-beta-key-giveaway/ <-- in case anyone cares (chance to win only) |
| 20:31.01 | mitchnull | any easy way to check if mouse stayed inside my frame in OnMouseUp? my current idea is to do something in OnEnter/OnLeave |
| 20:31.18 | mitchnull | (I mean, between OnMouseDown and OnMouseUp) |
| 20:31.56 | mitchnull | or should I just use a Button template and use OnClick? |
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| 20:34.21 | NeoTron | already has a guaranteed beta key. |
| 20:34.44 | sb|work | NeoTron: GIEV |
| 20:34.45 | sb|work | already |
| 20:34.56 | sb|work | ah.. lifetime mmo-thingie account? |
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| 20:35.01 | NeoTron | 6 month but yes |
| 20:35.16 | winkiller | ST:O *shudder* |
| 20:35.20 | winkiller | gief SW:TOR |
| 20:35.33 | NeoTron | I am definitely awaiting SW:TOR |
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| 20:36.33 | NeoTron | but until then... :) Champions is good fun but doesn't hurt to beta STO |
| 20:36.49 | NeoTron | from the looks of it, it shares a lot of the underlaying framework and engine with CO |
| 20:37.19 | NeoTron | I recognised a specific animation from CO in the STO ground combat for example and the dialogs are the same (loot one is identical except the dressing) |
| 20:37.21 | EvilJohn | yeah it shares similar technology |
| 20:37.49 | EvilJohn | i'm sure the ground combat engine is pretty close to identical |
| 20:38.04 | Fisker | i hate vezax |
| 20:38.05 | Fisker | TO HELL |
| 20:38.19 | aestil | vezax? why? |
| 20:40.41 | Fisker | no mana |
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| 20:46.45 | Stew_a | does anybody know of a library like satellite for creating and managing custom chat types, that isn't completely abandoned? |
| 20:52.36 | [SW]Dodge | Does LittleWigs work with BigWigs3.0 (r6294)? cant get it to work :( |
| 20:58.20 | ulic | [SW]Dodge: Not yet. |
| 20:58.33 | [SW]Dodge | ah, ok |
| 20:58.50 | [SW]Dodge | then i'm not to stupid :) |
| 20:58.52 | [SW]Dodge | ^^ |
| 20:58.54 | ulic | it will be updated, but I've been holding off until BW3 becomes more complete, so I don't have to keep redoing stuff over and over. And there is one feature that I'm still waiting for :) |
| 20:59.15 | ulic | once that feature is implimented then I'll probably convert things. |
| 20:59.20 | [SW]Dodge | ok |
| 21:00.03 | [SW]Dodge | i'll keep it installed, so i get the update as soon as it will be updated :P |
| 21:03.07 | Stanzilla | ulic: what is that feature? :D |
| 21:03.53 | ulic | Stanzilla: spellId options for both messages & bars |
| 21:04.06 | ulic | so you can toggle messages & bars seperately. |
| 21:04.29 | Stanzilla | ah ok |
| 21:05.15 | Stew_a | anybody? library to replace satellite? |
| 21:05.31 | ulic | it's mostly a because I like it that way feature of LW, I don't like to get messages for every little things, but the bars are nice some times, and I've tried to keep those options seperate in LW. |
| 21:07.07 | Gnarfoz | yay GotUR :O |
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| 21:28.16 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2475 RecipeDB/ARL-Jewelcraft.lua: |
| 21:28.19 | Repo | worked on some of ticket 808, refining the jewelcrafting database. |
| 21:34.44 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r24 / (3 files in 2 directories): move everything shared into the core |
| 21:34.47 | Repo | arathi basin module is now an empty hull until I get match prediction in |
| 21:35.05 | mitchnull | when do I get the "action failed because of an AddOn" stuff? |
| 21:35.49 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6296 / (41 files in 5 directories): * Rename :AddCombatListener to :Log |
| 21:35.52 | Repo | * Rename :AddDeathListener to :Death |
| 21:35.54 | Repo | * Added :Yell |
| 21:38.41 | ulic | hooray for less typing |
| 21:38.46 | vhaarr | yes indeed lol |
| 21:38.49 | rubik | what's a good place to upload hq fraps-ed stuff to these days? |
| 21:39.10 | mitchnull | hohum |
| 21:39.12 | rubik | youtube blows with how they re-compress even h264 stuff and make it unwatchable |
| 21:39.24 | mitchnull | CastSpellByName() blocked from an OnMouseUp handler |
| 21:39.36 | Shefki | youtube has become absolute shit since Google took over. |
| 21:40.11 | Shefki | I don't know what the problem is but half the time the vidoes don't load up fully even if I pause them and try to let them get ahead. |
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| 21:40.23 | Shefki | Even when they're supposedly fully downloaded to the local cache, they stutter. |
| 21:40.35 | vhaarr | rubik: what you have to take into considering is the insane amounts of worldwide bandwith youtube requires, and the amount of infrastructure work for the entire web google has had to finance to make youtube as accessible as it is now |
| 21:40.39 | Repo | 10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r19 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 21:40.39 | vhaarr | consideration* |
| 21:40.42 | Repo | dragging sort of works, OnClick sort of works, but gets tainted... |
| 21:40.44 | rubik | yeah.. prolly a bandwidth issue.. too many people uploading useless shit from their phone cams, etc. |
| 21:41.34 | rubik | vhaarr: understood.. i don't really blame them for not being able to keep up.. i'm just wondering what good alternatives are these days.. there's gotta be something.. for just gaming video clips or something |
| 21:41.55 | rubik | like vimeo.. but they no longer allow gaming clips obviously |
| 21:41.57 | vhaarr | yeah maybe, I don't really care so I don't know |
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| 21:47.44 | mitchnull | shefki: what makes a call blocked/tainted? |
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| 21:48.34 | Zeksie | tryin to call any protected function/action from non-secure code in combat is blocked |
| 21:48.56 | Zeksie | tainted is when you've modified some part of secure code so that it can't be considered secure any more and will fail to execute |
| 21:49.19 | mitchnull | is Button:OnClick secure but my OnMouseUp not secure? |
| 21:49.45 | mitchnull | hm. lemme experiment |
| 21:49.58 | Zeksie | doubt the click is either. but: if you have an action button, it's probably using OnClick itself. |
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| 21:50.03 | Zeksie | so if you mess with it, it'll get tainted |
| 21:50.18 | mitchnull | currently I have a simple "Frame" |
| 21:50.24 | mitchnull | I'll try using a "Button" |
| 21:50.37 | Zeksie | Frames don't have OnClick |
| 21:50.57 | mitchnull | yeah, that's why I do my stuff from ONMouseUP |
| 21:51.14 | mitchnull | but it gets tainted, so I'll try with button/onclick |
| 21:51.33 | Adirelle | Shadowed: the last healcomm version seems fine |
| 21:51.56 | Shefki | mitchnull: What are you trying to do? |
| 21:52.16 | mitchnull | call an broker object's OnClick |
| 21:52.25 | mitchnull | writing a broker display |
| 21:52.32 | Shefki | To do what? |
| 21:52.44 | mitchnull | well, it gets tainted on CastSpellByName |
| 21:53.49 | Zeksie | well, whatever it is, needs to inherit from SecureActionButton or similar for a start. |
| 21:55.53 | mitchnull | well, I'm checking out how Fortress does it and it seems it just uses "Button" not secure* |
| 21:56.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6297 / (7 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:56.16 | Repo | * Convert Coliseum modules to register for cleu events and such on engage instead of on enable. |
| 21:59.35 | Repo | 10macro-bank: 03Odlaw * r42 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fix auto load macro error on first startup. |
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| 22:05.37 | Shadowed | Adirelle: yay what I like to hear |
| 22:06.20 | mitchnull | yeah, using a button and OnClick seems to work |
| 22:10.04 | Repo | 10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r20 Bazooka.lua: the taint is gone |
| 22:36.38 | sztanpet | battleground updates are not syndicating to curse, cant update it with the cc |
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| 22:52.36 | mitchnull | hrmp. TipTop does evil things to GameTooltip |
| 22:52.41 | mitchnull | breaks LibQTip |
| 23:03.01 | harl | does anyone know of a way to have one key pressed to be transcribed into more than one action in the game, other than creating a script/macro, like for having the space not just make the character jump but also close specific frames/windows ? |
| 23:03.35 | harl | i tried adding such addition key bindings to the config.wtf but the game just seems to ignore and remove them. |
| 23:03.47 | harl | *additional |
| 23:03.51 | Arrowmaster | cant bind a key to more than one action |
| 23:05.15 | harl | ok, so i guess there also isn't an api for making the character jump, right? |
| 23:05.26 | Arrowmaster | there is |
| 23:05.29 | Arrowmaster | you cant use it |
| 23:05.36 | harl | that's what i meant |
| 23:05.51 | harl | thanks.. |
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| 23:10.59 | Repo | 10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta5-1-g26f5f22 Modules/LuaTexts/ScriptEnv.lua: [+1 commit] Fix a case where I missed or UNKNOWN which caused SmartRace() to return |
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| 23:29.18 | mitchnull | hohum |
| 23:30.02 | mitchnull | my name choice for Bazooka was sort of unfortunate... it gets all the CPU blame for all its embeds in Broker_CPU :( |
| 23:30.33 | vhaarr | users need to be educated continously on that subject |
| 23:31.33 | mitchnull | couldn't it be measured more accurately somehow? |
| 23:32.04 | mitchnull | (not specifically for the users' sake, but for devs... |
| 23:32.10 | vhaarr | yeah that's right, we let it stay this way the last few years because we're lazy |
| 23:32.23 | mitchnull | happened before :P |
| 23:32.39 | Repo | 10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 07master * e922000 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] add proper config |
| 23:32.53 | sztanpet | @describe cowtip_luatext |
| 23:32.54 | Repo | sztanpet: http://www.wowace.com/addons/cowtip_luatext/. CowTip_LuaText. Cowtip Textmodule using LuaTexts instead of DogTags |
| 23:33.27 | mitchnull | also looking for tooltip enhancer/replacement that is simple (like TipTop) but less evil with the original GameTooltip... |
| 23:33.49 | sztanpet | im using tiptac |
| 23:34.20 | profalbert | tiptac-config has many options |
| 23:34.31 | profalbert | that makes it confusing but not powerful |
| 23:35.17 | Repo | 10broker-itemlist: 03Morgalm * r29 / (3 files in 1 directory): Broker_Itemlist |
| 23:35.20 | Repo | -added koKR localization |
| 23:35.23 | Repo | -added autolocalization |
| 23:35.38 | Repo | 10morg-bid2: 03Morgalm * r71 / (3 files in 1 directory): MorgBid2 |
| 23:35.41 | Repo | -added autolocalization |
| 23:36.03 | mitchnull | sztanpet: does it have a public repo? |
| 23:36.33 | sztanpet | @project tip-tac |
| 23:36.34 | Repo | sztanpet: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/tip-tac/. TipTac. Game: WoW. Aezay (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 days ago. Tickets: 1/11 |
| 23:36.51 | sztanpet | doesnt seem so |
| 23:37.09 | mitchnull | meh, I'll try to fix TipTop then |
| 23:38.58 | Repo | 10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r21 Bazooka.lua: s/\./:/ a couple of places |
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| 23:50.33 | aestil | any buy a zuneHD? |
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