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| 01:00.11 | Shadowed | What's the SV limit again, it's something like 1.5 MB of data before it dies? |
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| 01:15.21 | MentalPower|AFK | 2^18-1 constants |
| 01:15.37 | MentalPower|AFK | a = 1 <--- 2 constants |
| 01:16.05 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 01:16.35 | MentalPower|AFK | b = {1,2,3,4,5, g=6,f=7,h=7} <--- 11 constants |
| 01:17.01 | Shadowed | Does the game crash, or does it simply refuse to write the SV data once you hit the limit |
| 01:17.04 | MentalPower|AFK | I have code that when fed a table can spit out the number of constants if you're interested |
| 01:17.11 | MentalPower|AFK | it refuses to *read* the file |
| 01:17.20 | Shadowed | until you delete the file? |
| 01:17.21 | MentalPower|AFK | the file will be written just fine |
| 01:17.33 | Shadowed | or it'll fail to read, see no data on exit and then write a blank one |
| 01:17.40 | MentalPower|AFK | no it attempts to read it, it'll fail, and write a... right |
| 01:17.51 | Shadowed | well there goes that idea |
| 01:18.44 | MentalPower|AFK | out of curiosity, what were you planning? |
| 01:19.12 | Shadowed | I was curious how much data would have to be fed to GearScore to cause it to fail to read data, but it would take something like ~8000 messages + throttle limits |
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| 01:26.32 | MentalPower|AFK | ah, yeah, it would take a while to do it |
| 01:27.02 | Shadowed | Would take about, 3-4 hours of them sending data which would be technically possible |
| 01:27.07 | Shadowed | assuming you are doing a raid |
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| 01:39.40 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r58 / (7 files in 1 directory): |
| 01:39.43 | Repo | Move to using hooks for MrTrader skill window instead of trying to hide the window. Should be more compatible with addons like Market Watcher going forward. |
| 01:47.41 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r59 TradeskillUI.lua: |
| 01:47.43 | Repo | Fix for a bug where reagent counts wouldn't be updated correctly on bag changes. |
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| 01:58.25 | Repo | 10autoroller: 03Mecdemort * r30 AutoRoller.lua: Fix databroker object name |
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| 02:32.18 | Antiarc | Funkeh`: ping? |
| 02:32.24 | Funkeh` | hi |
| 02:32.38 | Antiarc | Did you see my message about staggering stomp? |
| 02:32.52 | Antiarc | actually |
| 02:32.53 | Antiarc | wait |
| 02:32.55 | Antiarc | I'm dumb |
| 02:32.58 | Antiarc | It's in there and off |
| 02:32.59 | Antiarc | brb coffee |
| 02:33.15 | Funkeh` | no I didn't but ok |
| 02:33.23 | Antiarc | I was going to ask for a timer for it |
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| 02:33.29 | Antiarc | But it turns out I'm just an idiot |
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| 02:36.38 | Funkeh` | hah |
| 02:36.51 | Funkeh` | I can only get 158 cooking recipes without world events |
| 02:37.28 | Funkeh` | oh well |
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| 03:03.05 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r60 Modules (2 files in 2 directories): Add Modules folder for future split of tradeskill out. |
| 03:03.52 | rubik | anyone else use RaidCooldowns? something happened between monday and today that makes everything that expires get stuck with a bar with 0.0 duration left |
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| 03:05.29 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r61 Modules/ (2 files in 2 directories): Rename of Module folder |
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| 03:23.54 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2480 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 03:23.57 | Repo | Worked more on ticket 808, refining the jewelcrafting database, almost done. |
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| 03:51.42 | Bruners | anyone here that has worked with external repository ? |
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| 04:04.55 | Mikk | Bruners: hum? explain |
| 04:06.22 | Bruners | Mikk: you can add external repositorys on curseforge and wowhead?, just wondering how that works as i'm not really getting any info on CF after adding my external repo |
| 04:08.51 | Mikk | wowhead=wowace i assume |
| 04:08.59 | Bruners | yes :P |
| 04:09.14 | Mikk | no can't say i have any info on how that works |
| 04:09.30 | Mikk | i'd imagine there's a button somewhere saying "generate a zip for me NOW please" |
| 04:11.22 | Repo | 10ora3: 037destiny * r267 locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 04:11.41 | Bruners | i have tried to tag it but nothing happends |
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| 04:14.44 | Toadkiller | SO I am looking for a good personal buff target debuff cooldowns etc tracker. Started using TellMeWhen. Anyone care to recommend something else? |
| 04:15.40 | Bruners | i use oCD now, not that its super good |
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| 04:41.22 | Repo | 10ora3: 037destiny * r268 / (3 files in 2 directories): koKR Update. Fix for Translation. |
| 04:43.54 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r62 / (13 files in 2 directories): |
| 04:43.57 | Repo | Split TradeSkill window into a module, and do some further code isolation for the sake of easier maintenance. |
| 05:05.14 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r63 / (2 files in 2 directories): Support for On-Demand loading of the tradeskill window. |
| 05:09.43 | theoddone33 | anyone know what happens if you iceblock icehowl's charge? |
| 05:11.10 | Mikk | i don't know and don't see the need to find out |
| 05:11.18 | Mikk | it's not as if avoiding it is hard :P |
| 05:11.52 | theoddone33 | well it's hard for some people in my guild |
| 05:12.02 | theoddone33 | not people that can cast iceblock, I was just curiuos |
| 05:12.26 | Mikk | o.O |
| 05:12.30 | Mikk | how..... how? |
| 05:12.39 | theoddone33 | I don't really understand it myself |
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| 05:12.51 | theoddone33 | but I've never been targeted in heroic so I dunno if I'd do better |
| 05:12.55 | Mikk | keyboard turners? |
| 05:12.56 | theoddone33 | I just assume I would because it doesn't seem hard |
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| 05:15.25 | theoddone33 | the thing that I don't get |
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| 05:15.40 | theoddone33 | is some people are not in the line of fire |
| 05:15.42 | theoddone33 | and then run into it |
| 05:15.49 | theoddone33 | and are like "oh sorry I thought I ran the right way" |
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| 05:17.24 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6311 Coliseum/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 05:17.35 | Codayus | theoddone33: They make me cry. |
| 05:18.13 | Codayus | It's clear they have no idea what icehowl is doing or where he's facing or what he's charging. They just know that when they get knockbacked they need to RUN, and by god! They're going to run. ...right into Icehowl. |
| 05:18.32 | Codayus | It's very Pavlovian. |
| 05:24.38 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r64 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 05:24.40 | Repo | Fixes for on-demand loading so it can work when the SkillWindow module is disabled or deleted. |
| 05:24.44 | Repo | Updates to changelog, and a little prettification of the module title. |
| 05:25.14 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.5.1 * r65 : Tagging as v0.5.1 |
| 05:27.25 | Groktar | pounces Codayus |
| 05:27.32 | Groktar | noms Codayus' face |
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| 05:31.49 | Codayus | (Also, you don't need to be a keyboard turner to get hit by Icehowl. Oceanic latency and trying to mouse turn can do it if your unlucky. These days I just strafe without turning; much safer. |
| 05:32.10 | Codayus | (A 90 degree turn with a mouse is ALMOST instant, but only almost. QQ.) |
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| 05:37.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6312 / (6 files in 3 directories): |
| 05:37.16 | Repo | Lets :Register with CallbackHandler so that it does not create an anonymous function every time. |
| 05:38.00 | Groktar | don't think any of our aussies have ever gotten hit |
| 05:38.15 | Groktar | but then we only have 2 |
| 05:39.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6313 Core/BossPrototype.lua: Remove the exact yell map. |
| 05:40.19 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r66 Modules/SkillWindow/MRTSkillWindow.lua: |
| 05:40.22 | Repo | Fix for a stupid error introduced by making MrTrader no longer dependent on Blizz's UI constants. |
| 05:41.05 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r67 Changelog.txt: |
| 05:41.08 | Repo | Fix for a stupid error introduced by making MrTrader no longer dependent on Blizz's UI constants. |
| 05:41.24 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.5.2 * r68 : Tagging as v0.5.2 |
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| 05:57.36 | Codayus | Groktar: Depends where in Australia they are. Western and Eastern sides have a fair difference in lag. |
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| 06:06.19 | quiescens | its mostly possible to avoid things even with the lag |
| 06:06.34 | quiescens | but there's certainly much less room for error |
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| 06:07.50 | quiescens | with 500 odd ms of latency you don't get to know its happening until half a second later and then the server doesn't get to know you're trying to move until half a second after you started moving |
| 06:08.17 | quiescens | its worst for things like fire patches or void zones that tick per second |
| 06:08.34 | quiescens | almost impossible to avoid taking 2+ ticks unless you were already moving before it appeared under you |
| 06:08.57 | Codayus | Yes. |
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| 06:09.38 | Codayus | Gives classes with a lot of instants an advantage. I've got into the habit of moving a little bit whenever I have the time on fights with flame patches or whatever. |
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| 06:10.18 | Codayus | Quite common to have a flame patch appear where I just was. :) |
| 06:13.50 | rubik | ughh.. 45 attempts left gettign to anub'arak in 10-hard and then 13 wipes before calling it |
| 06:14.22 | rubik | mostly healer fail.. it's possible to 2-heal that, right? |
| 06:14.42 | Mikk | we were speculating that it's possible to 1heal it if adds die quickly |
| 06:15.00 | Mikk | and people dont stand around and get hit by them |
| 06:16.04 | rubik | we're slow on the last adds too so we end up with 2 that are almost dead and then 2 new ones incoming as anub goes under 30% |
| 06:16.14 | rubik | shitty timing mostly |
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| 06:42.03 | Shefki | rubik: We 2 healed it last week and this week. |
| 06:42.14 | Shefki | rubik: Last week we got to it with 49 attempts and one shot it. |
| 06:42.35 | Shefki | This week we hit it with 50 attempts and had one wipe due to a miscommunication on positioning after the submerge ended. |
| 06:43.03 | Shefki | 2nd attempt was flawless. So 2 healing the entire instance is 100% possible. |
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| 06:46.37 | rubik | Shefki: thanks for that.. yeah, saw a video too and they 2-healed it too |
| 06:47.55 | rubik | it goes super smooth until last phase.. the healers (well, one of them) just can't keep up then (the adds tank ends up tanking 4 adds for maybe 5 seconds while one pair dies and the other pair gets to him) |
| 06:48.45 | Repo | 10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 07master * a03b5f1 / (18 files in 6 directories): [new, +14 commits] (10 truncated) |
| 06:48.48 | Repo | a03b5f1: Made the DR state (1/2, 1/4, 0) more visible. |
| 06:48.51 | Repo | 99d1f58: Added support for Blizzard frames: target, focus and arena enemies. |
| 06:48.54 | Repo | 107a84c: Added layout options for each frame. |
| 06:48.57 | Repo | c54d81e: Fixed supporting addon loading. |
| 06:48.58 | rubik | what kind of healers did you guys use? we're stuck with a pally/priest and the priest isn't doing a very good job surprisingly |
| 06:50.38 | Shefki | Resto druid, Holy Priest. |
| 06:51.00 | Shefki | Ohh and this week we'd had no deaths at all until Anub. The wipe was really disappointing. |
| 06:51.12 | rubik | hmm.. our priest insisted on going disc... maybe holy works better but i figured she'd know best |
| 06:51.28 | Shefki | I was the resto druid. |
| 06:51.34 | rubik | hah.. must be disappointing indeed.. very nice work not wiping until there |
| 06:51.37 | Shefki | The priest really feels pretty strongly that holy was better. |
| 06:52.11 | Shefki | His primary reason for that is he feels limited to healing one target as disc.' |
| 06:52.29 | Shefki | And when the adds are up there at the end both tanks are getting beat on pretty hard. |
| 06:52.43 | Shefki | rubik: Incidentally what are you doing with the ads after 30%? |
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| 06:53.16 | Shefki | Because honestly, there's sorta a trick to it and your healers mght not be as bad as you think. |
| 06:54.01 | Shefki | After the submerge, you want to kill the adds up BEFORE taking him to 30%. |
| 06:54.17 | Shefki | Once you do that take him down to 30% another set shoudl come out around the same time. |
| 06:54.25 | Shefki | That 2nd set should be tanked off the ice. |
| 06:54.25 | rubik | that's part of our problem... one sec |
| 06:54.28 | Shefki | So that they'll submerge. |
| 06:54.49 | Shefki | Once they submerge it tkaes a ton of stress of the healers and you can just burn him. |
| 06:55.02 | Shefki | You should be able to finish him just before if not before they come up. |
| 06:55.30 | rubik | we get the 2 adds that are first up after he comes back up to like 20% each or so... just as he's getting very close to submerging a 2nd time |
| 06:55.36 | rubik | so we're forced to take him under 30% |
| 06:55.51 | Shefki | Your DPS is too slow then. |
| 06:55.57 | rubik | so the first pair of adds ends up being at like 10-15% as the 2nd pair comes and the adds tank most often dies |
| 06:56.22 | rubik | but we should definitely let the first pair submerge now that you mentioned it |
| 06:56.38 | Shefki | A bit part of our wipe this week was there was an ice patch up and the add tank took them there while a DK was pulling an ice thing down on top of the boss. |
| 06:56.45 | Shefki | Where everyone else was planning to be. |
| 06:56.57 | Shefki | The wasted time in moving between the patches caused the wipe. |
| 06:57.08 | Shefki | First pair should die. |
| 06:57.30 | Repo | 10bazooka (experimental): 03mitch0 * r28 Bazooka.lua: |
| 06:57.33 | Repo | removed cancelDrag(), it was ugly code-wise and not very useful anyway |
| 06:57.35 | Shefki | There's really no way you can expect the healers to keep up that ad tank up with 4 of them on him. It might be possible with 3 healers, but then you're losing DPS that you need. |
| 06:57.38 | rubik | so you're saying kill first pair all the way and then let 2nd pair submerge as we're taking him down under 30% |
| 06:57.45 | Shefki | Exactly. |
| 06:58.05 | rubik | right.. 4 adds is unreasonable, i definitely agree.. our whole raid knows that we can't have that |
| 06:58.05 | Shefki | The 2nd pair is tanked off the ice, while the raid stands on the ice. |
| 06:58.13 | Shefki | THe ads will not come up through the ice. |
| 06:58.21 | Shefki | So they raid is guaranteed to be safe standing on it. |
| 06:58.31 | Shefki | They'll come up. |
| 06:58.37 | Shefki | But further away giving the tank time to pick them up. |
| 06:58.41 | Shefki | If they do come up. |
| 06:58.50 | Shefki | Ideally you'll do it just beofre they would. |
| 06:58.51 | rubik | yeah, that would give the healers a breather |
| 06:59.06 | Shefki | Exactly. |
| 06:59.35 | Shefki | I think last week the holy priest actually died right at the start of the post 30% phase and I solo healed it. |
| 07:00.09 | Shefki | So that should give you an indication of how much it helps letting them submerge. |
| 07:00.34 | Repo | 10betterguildcontrol: 03Zhinjio 040.0.1-beta * r20 : Tagging as 0.0.1-beta |
| 07:00.57 | rubik | yup, definitely sounds like we'll want to take advantage of that, thanks |
| 07:01.11 | rubik | how long do they stay submerged for again? like 10 sec or so? |
| 07:01.29 | Shefki | I don't remember sorry. |
| 07:02.09 | Groktar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO4Xtq_be8c <- one ugly kill |
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| 07:03.50 | rubik | no worries, thanks again for the advice... going to hit the sack here |
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| 07:14.09 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r45 / (2 files in 1 directory): 09/09/17 1.1.1 |
| 07:14.12 | Repo | - Given CallBacks "unique" names, to (hopefully) fix problems caused by 090916 changes to CallBackHander-1.0 |
| 07:14.15 | Repo | - Fixed some missing localisation strings |
| 07:14.33 | vhaarr | nevcairiel: ^ |
| 07:14.56 | vhaarr | I've no idea what he's talking about, but seems like something you should check into |
| 07:15.22 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v1.1.1 * r46 : Tagging as v1.1.1 |
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| 07:19.39 | [Ammo] | vhaarr: you don't want to see that diff |
| 07:19.46 | vhaarr | haha |
| 07:19.55 | [Ammo] | that guy needs to learn something about get / set and using aceconfig |
| 07:19.57 | [Ammo] | holy crap |
| 07:26.01 | vhaarr | I always imagined that addon was crap :p |
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| 07:28.12 | Fisker | seduces [Ammo] |
| 07:29.02 | theoddone33 | Groktar: why is the dark shield more of a challenge? |
| 07:29.21 | theoddone33 | melee are all dark? |
| 07:31.12 | Dath | Why would this not work? WorldFrame:SetScript("OnMouseDown", function(...) print("foo") end); (Yes I know I'm not calling the original OnMouseDown script) |
| 07:31.29 | Toadkiller | whats the / command for info on a mod? |
| 07:31.36 | Toadkiller | in irc |
| 07:31.49 | Mikk | it's not a / command |
| 07:31.54 | Toadkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:32.01 | Mikk | @describe wow/ace3 |
| 07:32.03 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/. Ace3. AddOn development framework |
| 07:32.14 | Toadkiller | @describe betterguildcontrol |
| 07:32.15 | Repo | Toadkiller: http://www.wowace.com/addons/betterguildcontrol/. BetterGuildControl. Improved Guild Control Panel |
| 07:32.24 | Mikk | i think @project works too |
| 07:32.25 | Toadkiller | @describe wow/betterguildcontrol |
| 07:32.27 | Repo | Toadkiller: http://www.wowace.com/addons/betterguildcontrol/. BetterGuildControl. Improved Guild Control Panel |
| 07:32.29 | Mikk | @project wow/ace3 |
| 07:32.30 | Repo | Mikk: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/. Ace3. Game: WoW. Kaelten (Manager/Author), Ammo (Author), mikk (Author), Nargiddley (Author), Nevcairiel (Author/Maintainer). Updated: 20 hours ago. Tickets: 10/72 |
| 07:32.46 | Toadkiller | @project wow/betterguildcontrol |
| 07:32.47 | Repo | Toadkiller: http://www.wowace.com/addons/betterguildcontrol/. BetterGuildControl. Game: WoW. Zhinjio (Manager/Author), Elkano (Author). Updated: 30 minutes ago. Tickets: 9/11 |
| 07:33.01 | Toadkiller | gah ill hafta go read |
| 07:33.09 | Elkano | ok, this project is doomed... 9/11 :/ |
| 07:33.11 | Mikk | onoes :P |
| 07:33.12 | Toadkiller | tx tho |
| 07:33.39 | Zhinjio | hahaha |
| 07:33.50 | Zhinjio | oh well. |
| 07:35.30 | Toadkiller | Repeat question: anyone using buff / debuff on target / cooldowns trackers other than TellMeWhen? |
| 07:36.56 | Toadkiller | Mikk: I like your GridStatusRaidDebuff suggestion. So, when are you implementing it! |
| 07:37.04 | Dath | To answer my own question. Nothing is wrong with it. Another mod is breaking it. Joy! |
| 07:44.07 | Dath | FishingBuddy is breaking it |
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| 07:46.41 | Mikk | Toadkiller: optimist! |
| 07:47.08 | Mikk | i get enough to do fiddling with abandoned projects |
| 07:47.16 | Mikk | why would i start fiddling with ones that actually have active devs? =P |
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| 07:55.39 | Arrowmaster | Dath: use FishermansFriend |
| 08:00.06 | Primer | Anyone know how much hit a lock should have? |
| 08:00.24 | Primer | presume 25 man raid with appropriate members |
| 08:03.52 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6314 / (8 files in 3 directories): |
| 08:03.55 | Repo | * Move target monitoring to the core, untested and drycoded. BossBlock is currently not working because of this. |
| 08:03.58 | Repo | * Use locals to store listeners in the prototype instead of module members. |
| 08:04.01 | Repo | * Add some enable yells to some Coliseum modules. |
| 08:04.06 | Dath | Arrowmaster, well.. I don't want to use either. But someone using LibResComm might use FishingBuddy. And it's breaking the hook at the moment |
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| 08:08.22 | Dath | What is best practice btw? I noticed this problem with fishingbuddy because of a reported lua error in a ticket. I could put a fix in librescomm so it won't error in the future, but then I might not notice untill much later that there is a problem |
| 08:10.07 | Arrowmaster | whats the problem? |
| 08:10.22 | asmodai | Odd |
| 08:10.23 | Arrowmaster | oh hooking worldframe? |
| 08:10.46 | Dath | yes |
| 08:10.53 | asmodai | Is it supposed to do that, when I rotate my camera I see a bookshelf suddenly stacked with a few books, rotate away again, it's empty |
| 08:11.06 | asmodai | in Dalaran's Violet Citadel |
| 08:11.57 | Arrowmaster | Dath: you should always do a proper hook and call the original function if it exists, if the issue is fishingbuddy not hooking properly then tell the fishingbuddy author and maybe put a note on your page that fishingbuddy brakes it to try to shame him into fixing it |
| 08:13.25 | Arrowmaster | asmodai: common video game problem where square areas instead of circular areas are used for draw distance, most commonly seen with fog |
| 08:13.40 | phyber | Primer: 15% or so, maybe? how much i have and i don't remember missing things on the few occassions that i raided this expansion. |
| 08:13.58 | Primer | I have 14.07% |
| 08:14.05 | Primer | but I'm told that's WAY too much |
| 08:14.06 | Adirelle|work | gah, is there any way to have git push show the hook error message ? |
| 08:14.44 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle|work: it always should |
| 08:14.56 | Arrowmaster | what os? |
| 08:15.07 | Adirelle|work | windows |
| 08:15.18 | Adirelle|work | using git bash |
| 08:15.31 | Arrowmaster | if you are doing it from inside git bash then it should show |
| 08:15.39 | Adirelle|work | " ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> master (hook declined)" |
| 08:15.51 | Dath | Arrowmaster, yeah.. but what about the future. I could prevent the error from happening (add nil check) if in the future another addons breaks the hook. But the problem might not be reported as quickly then back to me. I could also let it print a "Problem! Please send ticket" message. Whats best practice? |
| 08:15.55 | Arrowmaster | does the hook give a message? |
| 08:16.06 | Adirelle|work | got that one once, rest of the time, I have "fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly" |
| 08:16.20 | [Ammo] | Dath: send a pack of gay gorillas to rape the fishingbuddy author |
| 08:16.26 | [Ammo] | then hide his body afterwards |
| 08:16.29 | Adirelle|work | no more than what I pasted |
| 08:16.36 | Arrowmaster | Dath: OH! the problem is the other addon isnt passing all the original args when you hook its hook? |
| 08:17.03 | Arrowmaster | that happens all the time with cartographer, i was tempted to actually add a message just to make people shut up about it |
| 08:17.34 | Dath | Arrowmaster, the problem is that the other addon is simply not calling the original function |
| 08:17.34 | Adirelle|work | Arrowmaster: complete sequence: http://paste.wowace.com/1147/ |
| 08:18.10 | Arrowmaster | worldframe doesnt have an original onmousedown |
| 08:18.22 | Dath | [Ammo], I was actually thinking of a box containing rotten fish |
| 08:18.30 | Arrowmaster | guessing you nil variable is being set in your hook which isnt getting run? |
| 08:18.30 | Toadkiller | mikk: optimist eh. tx. Yeah I hear you about fiddling time. |
| 08:18.48 | Adirelle|work | hmm, I added .pkgmeta, I suppose it contains some error, is there any way to check it beside the commit hook ? |
| 08:19.09 | Dath | Arrowmaster, it is. And then once another event is running, I can check whether it is nil |
| 08:19.13 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle|work: that shouldnt be happening |
| 08:19.40 | Arrowmaster | Dath: add a check then to make sure, atleast so you dont throw an error |
| 08:19.53 | Adirelle|work | Arrowmaster: I believe you but it is happening anyway :p |
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| 08:20.08 | Arrowmaster | wonder if ckknight is awake |
| 08:20.21 | Adirelle|work | I already commited once so I think it is not related to the other files |
| 08:20.32 | Adirelle|work | I'll try from a linux box |
| 08:20.32 | Toadkiller | asmodai: yeah thats standard behavior. its still there just stare at it till it comes back. You can practice doing that by becoming a herbalist / miner |
| 08:21.09 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle|work: it could be an issue that the wowace repo hooks arent returning the message properly |
| 08:21.36 | Dath | Arrowmaster, but then I might not get a bug report about it that quick |
| 08:21.54 | Adirelle|work | Arrowmaster: or win32 git is stupid, got an error message with linux |
| 08:22.32 | Arrowmaster | Dath: you could throw your own error the first time per session that it happens |
| 08:22.35 | Adirelle|work | and my .pkgmeta is effectively screwed |
| 08:22.47 | Arrowmaster | Adirelle|work: dont use tabs? |
| 08:23.19 | Arrowmaster | it should give some perty specific errors as long as it can parse the yaml properly |
| 08:23.46 | Adirelle|work | actually it parsed the yaml fine and is returning an error about expected data types |
| 08:24.32 | Arrowmaster | can you pastey the git push output from the nix box and the .pkgmeta |
| 08:24.51 | Adirelle|work | and 1) I knew about tabs, 2) ckknight added something to convert tabs to spaces in the hook (though he might have reverted it since) |
| 08:25.31 | Adirelle|work | and now than I have an error message to work with I'll should be able to fix it |
| 08:25.50 | Arrowmaster | ive been trying to get him to remove that stupid tab to space thing |
| 08:26.18 | Arrowmaster | it might work fine if you use only tabs but its bound to be completely fucked up if you mix tabs and spaces |
| 08:26.38 | Adirelle|work | I'm only using spaces |
| 08:27.09 | Repo | 10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 07master * daf7781 / (6 files in 5 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 08:27.11 | Arrowmaster | whats your package-as:? |
| 08:27.13 | Repo | daf7781: .pkgmeta fix. |
| 08:27.16 | Repo | a14d6d6: Added .pkgmeta and updated TOCs. |
| 08:27.18 | Adirelle|work | got it |
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| 08:30.10 | Adirelle|work | thanks for your time, Arrowmaster |
| 08:33.12 | Adirelle|work | [Ammo]: would it be a problem that an addon tweaked its own AddonLoaderSV.overrides, given there is no public API for this ? |
| 08:35.29 | [Ammo] | there is a public API, it's called the GUI |
| 08:36.06 | [Ammo] | although, technically not an API |
| 08:36.12 | Adirelle|work | P in API means "Programming" |
| 08:36.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03yoshimo * r6315 Coliseum/Locales/deDE.lua: Added deDE enabletriggers for Beasts &Jaraxxus |
| 08:36.16 | [Ammo] | I know |
| 08:36.42 | [Ammo] | guess it depends on the intent of the addon |
| 08:36.43 | Adirelle|work | I just wanted my addon to offer the user to select when he wants to be automagically loaded |
| 08:37.12 | [Ammo] | shouldn't be an issue |
| 08:37.21 | [Ammo] | fuck it up and users will complain :) |
| 08:37.48 | mitch0 | I had a question but I forgot it |
| 08:38.02 | Adirelle|work | as usual |
| 08:38.16 | Adirelle|work | (er, wasn't meant for mitch0) |
| 08:38.30 | mitch0 | hehe ;) |
| 08:39.11 | mitch0 | arrow: 1) python is crap for this tabs/spaces stuff and 2) the pre-commit hook should just reject any files with starting tabs in it |
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| 08:39.46 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: you mean for .pkgmeta or even in lua ? |
| 08:39.53 | mitch0 | lua is not python |
| 08:39.55 | mitch0 | so no |
| 08:40.17 | mitch0 | just the snakey files |
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| 08:41.09 | Adirelle|work | (btw, a project option to enforce use of either leading tabs or leading spaces could be interesting too) |
| 08:41.22 | Adirelle|work | mixed indentation is awful |
| 08:41.58 | mitch0 | adirelle: well, at least you can reformat .lua without changing its meaning... |
| 08:42.39 | Adirelle|work | yes but this has a good eye-bleeding probability |
| 08:43.00 | mitch0 | and fun times with diff/merge... |
| 08:43.16 | Adirelle|work | right |
| 08:43.24 | mitch0 | yeah, if you open a ticket for that stuff, I'll vote on it ;) |
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| 08:43.55 | mitch0 | (although there was a big QQ thread lately about how wowace/cf development stagnates or whatnot :) |
| 08:48.52 | Repo | 10librescomm-1-0: 03DathRarhek * r48 / (2 files in 1 directory): LibResComm-1.0: |
| 08:48.55 | Repo | - TOC Update |
| 08:48.58 | Repo | - Throw chatframe error instead of lua error in case Tooltip hook didnt provide a res target |
| 08:51.40 | [SW]Dodge | Dath: ping? |
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| 08:53.14 | Dath | [SW]Dodge, pong |
| 08:53.36 | [SW]Dodge | you are DathRarhek? |
| 08:53.50 | Dath | yes |
| 08:53.51 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: .pkgmeta isnt python its yaml |
| 08:54.49 | [SW]Dodge | ok, i'm netrox on wowace, it could be that Fishingbuddy causes the error, i have it installed. should i disable and try find someone who dies for me to test? :D |
| 08:55.34 | Dath | yes.. finding people to die for you is the hardest part |
| 08:56.00 | Dath | although as horde arround orgrimmar you can often have a bit of luck |
| 08:56.20 | [SW]Dodge | not that hard, i just log into the account from a friend and jump of from dalaran :D |
| 08:56.45 | Dath | or that.. make sure he releases |
| 08:58.19 | mitch0 | arrow: I bet it's inspired by python :P |
| 08:58.21 | [SW]Dodge | ha, another idea, i oculd use that pala spell killing the pala saving my life :D just need to find it =D |
| 08:59.31 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: its not, python allows tab usage, yaml doesnt |
| 09:00.38 | mitch0 | ah, then I just misunderstood adirelle's problem |
| 09:01.21 | [SW]Dodge | Dath: disabled FishingBuddy -> no error on rezz |
| 09:01.28 | [SW]Dodge | reenabled -> error |
| 09:02.23 | Adirelle|work | crap, owned by dependencies :o |
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| 09:06.30 | Dath | [SW]Dodge, if you download that alpha I just uploaded you will get a one time chatframe error instead of a lua error. Other than that it's waiting for the fishingbuddy author to fix it |
| 09:07.57 | [SW]Dodge | if CC somewhen opens from tray i'll update =X |
| 09:08.47 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r47 / (2 files in 2 directories): 09/09/17 1.1.11 |
| 09:08.50 | Repo | - Fixed missing localisation strings... |
| 09:09.00 | [SW]Dodge | installed =) |
| 09:10.08 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v1.1.11 * r48 : Tagging as v1.1.11 |
| 09:12.30 | Repo | 10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 07master * 888807c / (5 files in 4 directories): [+1 commit] More LoD awesomeness. |
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| 09:18.28 | [SW]Dodge | wtb more blighted proto-drakes for JC daylie :( |
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| 09:35.15 | Repo | 10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 07master * dffe856 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits] |
| 09:35.18 | Repo | dffe856: Properly handle profile changes. |
| 09:35.21 | Repo | 528fde9: Fixed error message related to module loading. |
| 09:36.59 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03TrAsHeR * r2282 Locales/constants.fr.lua: frFR update |
| 09:38.41 | Repo | 10diminishingreturns: 03Adirelle 04v1.0-beta * 00972ef /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.0-beta. |
| 09:39.36 | Groktar | beats repo around the head with a tire iron, crams him into an old refrigerator, and then drives it to the dump |
| 09:39.55 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r6316 Coliseum/Locales (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: |
| 09:39.58 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 09:41.11 | Megalon | http://e-merl.com/comics/2009-03-24.gif |
| 09:41.12 | Megalon | :[ |
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| 09:41.39 | ennuilg | Good morning. |
| 09:41.55 | ennuilg | nevcairiel: Are you about? |
| 09:42.31 | Groktar | has another refrigerator for ennuilg |
| 09:44.01 | ennuilg | The change made to CallBackHandler-1.0.lua yesterday seem to have broken LibBars-1.0 - based add-ons - or at least mine. |
| 09:47.19 | ennuilg | ./dance |
| 09:49.01 | [Ammo] | it could be you were using it wrong all along annuilg |
| 09:50.53 | mitch0 | ammo: what sort of "bad usage" could break it now? |
| 09:51.13 | Groktar | creeps up behind ennuilg |
| 09:51.17 | [Ammo] | I'm not sure |
| 09:51.30 | [Ammo] | but after looking at the scorchio code I want to puke |
| 09:51.32 | ennuilg | ammo: It could be me, for sure... But I have no idea how that may be the case! |
| 09:51.43 | mitch0 | ammo: I was about to look at that, too :) |
| 09:51.54 | [Ammo] | ennuilg: your diff that fixes it makes no sense |
| 09:52.03 | [Ammo] | apart from the fact that you need to learn hhow to use config tables |
| 09:52.06 | [Ammo] | and a single get/set function |
| 09:52.23 | mitch0 | a single get/set is not always viable |
| 09:52.24 | [Ammo] | that would have reduce your codesize in half |
| 09:52.28 | [Ammo] | it is for him |
| 09:52.29 | ennuilg | Yeah - that's the main aim of v1.5 - to sort out the options/config stuff which has got out of hand. |
| 09:52.40 | [Ammo] | haha out of hand is an understatement ;) |
| 09:52.40 | ennuilg | But that's not the issue at hand. |
| 09:52.52 | mitch0 | ennuilg: what was the breakage? |
| 09:52.59 | [Ammo] | yeah what broke? |
| 09:53.17 | [Ammo] | because your diff that fixes it makes no sense |
| 09:53.31 | [Ammo] | even if I ignore the 2000+ lines of config change |
| 09:54.01 | ennuilg | When LibBars run out now, they reappear with a 0.0 time (or 0.2 sometime) and don't die. They're not being created again by Scorchio (at least, putting a Print in my code by the New bar stuff doesn't get printed). |
| 09:54.23 | ennuilg | Yeah - the diff I tried this morning didn't fix it. |
| 09:55.21 | ennuilg | Commenting out this in CallBackHandler-1.0.lua does fix it: http://paste.wowace.com/1148/ |
| 09:56.06 | [Ammo] | I think I know the thinko nevc made |
| 10:01.54 | mitch0 | well, one possible issue is that it doesn't hanlde "arg" changes in the present for as far as I understand |
| 10:02.14 | [Ammo] | yup |
| 10:02.17 | [Ammo] | that's the thinko |
| 10:02.32 | Mikk | test for if method is a function |
| 10:02.38 | Mikk | er no wait that doesnt help either |
| 10:02.47 | [Ammo] | I think the thinko is in the arg handling |
| 10:03.19 | [Ammo] | and ennuilg, you really need to look at table creation, and code optimization etc |
| 10:03.36 | [Ammo] | and look at inherited attributes for config tables |
| 10:03.58 | ennuilg | Indeed. It's definitely right up there on my ToDo list, but finding the time to support this addon is already a struggle. |
| 10:04.11 | [Ammo] | and it will remain a struggle unless you do a total rewrite |
| 10:04.21 | [Ammo] | it's a pile of steaming poo atm (excuse the term) :) |
| 10:04.31 | Mikk | seriously, i don't get how that can cause errors |
| 10:04.33 | Mikk | because |
| 10:04.34 | ennuilg | I know, I know! shush! |
| 10:04.44 | Mikk | there is only ONE single case when that if-clause will trigger |
| 10:04.51 | Mikk | and that's when you supply a function ref and no arg |
| 10:05.02 | Mikk | for all other cases, closures are created wrapping your call |
| 10:05.43 | mitch0 | mikk: the early return happens before the creation of those |
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| 10:06.51 | Mikk | er the point here is that we're testing for a re-registration of something that is already set |
| 10:07.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6317 / (3 files in 3 directories): frFR Update |
| 10:07.12 | Mikk | oooops wait |
| 10:07.13 | Mikk | my bad |
| 10:07.15 | Mikk | that's not true |
| 10:07.28 | [Ammo] | we're testing if the event we're registering to a method is already registered |
| 10:07.28 | mitch0 | mikk: so, suppose: X.RegisterCallback(self, "event", "myMethod"); X.RegisterCallback(self, "event", "myMethod", "ImportantArg") -> I'll never get ImportantArg |
| 10:07.29 | Groktar | devours Mikk's soul |
| 10:07.46 | Mikk | i thought he was looking at events[eventname][self] = regfunc |
| 10:07.53 | [Ammo] | naah |
| 10:07.53 | Mikk | but there's a new array called "methods" |
| 10:07.53 | Mikk | wtf |
| 10:07.58 | [Ammo] | ther eis |
| 10:08.21 | Mikk | stop doing violence to my code qq |
| 10:08.30 | [Ammo] | Mikk: listen to the reason? :) |
| 10:08.48 | [Ammo] | take this example |
| 10:08.51 | [Ammo] | bigwigs |
| 10:09.16 | [Ammo] | either we keep a variable for isalreadyregistered for an event per module etc |
| 10:09.22 | [Ammo] | or we just blindly reregister the same event |
| 10:09.25 | mitch0 | @project libbars |
| 10:09.26 | Repo | mitch0: No project found that matches 'libbars' |
| 10:09.39 | [Ammo] | self:RegisterEvent("COMBAT_LOG_UNFILTERED") 10x |
| 10:09.43 | [Ammo] | that generates 10 closuers |
| 10:09.47 | [Ammo] | of which only 1 is used |
| 10:10.03 | Mikk | huh? |
| 10:10.13 | Mikk | don't you use all 10 in 10 modules? |
| 10:10.23 | [Ammo] | stop |
| 10:10.24 | [Ammo] | 1 module |
| 10:10.30 | [Ammo] | does 10x RegisterEvent.. |
| 10:10.39 | [Ammo] | -> 10 closures |
| 10:10.53 | Mikk | why does a single module do 10 RegisterEvent? wonky codepath? oO |
| 10:10.59 | Mikk | or are you talking over the course of an hour or something? |
| 10:11.06 | [Ammo] | because there is no IsEventRegistered |
| 10:11.24 | Mikk | that's solvable |
| 10:11.29 | ennuilg | mitch0: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libbars-1-0/mainline/trunk/LibBars-1.0 |
| 10:11.35 | [Ammo] | well the early return should take care of that |
| 10:11.40 | [Ammo] | and not create a ton of unused closures |
| 10:12.05 | [Ammo] | because registering the same event to the same method should return early imho |
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| 10:12.15 | Mikk | it needs to test for the arg changing though |
| 10:12.21 | [Ammo] | it does |
| 10:12.21 | Mikk | that's the failure |
| 10:12.24 | [Ammo] | yes |
| 10:12.26 | [Ammo] | that's what I said |
| 10:12.31 | [Ammo] | but I still think this is a good change |
| 10:12.35 | [Ammo] | if properly implementwed ;0 |
| 10:13.09 | Arrowmaster | isnt LibBars-1.0 kinda dead? |
| 10:13.13 | [Ammo] | it should be |
| 10:13.17 | [Ammo] | but shrug |
| 10:13.41 | ennuilg | Is there an accepted successor? |
| 10:13.54 | mitch0 | well, LibBars doesn't use the arg stuff |
| 10:13.59 | Arrowmaster | @project libcandybar-3-0 |
| 10:14.00 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libcandybar-3-0/. LibCandyBar-3.0. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author), Ammo (Author). Updated: 17 days ago |
| 10:14.14 | [Ammo] | anyway, time for lunch |
| 10:14.23 | ennuilg | I did look at CandyBar-3.0 - doesn't appear to handle multiple anchors? |
| 10:14.42 | ennuilg | [Ammo]: Thanks for your help so far. Sorry for making you feel unwell - I'll DCC you some Pepto Bismol. |
| 10:16.21 | Mikk | hehe |
| 10:16.53 | Groktar | destroys all existing copies of firefly |
| 10:17.13 | Arrowmaster | Groktar: i still have mine! ha! |
| 10:17.22 | Mikk | hokay i think i have a better way of doing this |
| 10:17.31 | Groktar | destroyed those, too |
| 10:17.50 | Mikk | make 2 flat tables indexed on the closure, weak-keyed |
| 10:18.08 | Mikk | one pointing at the original method (string / func) |
| 10:18.15 | Mikk | one containing the arg (or nil) |
| 10:19.08 | Mikk | this skips a fuckload of subtables. and doesn't give me a headache when trying to think of what will happen in recursive invocation - because i'm not sure the current idea will. |
| 10:19.46 | Mikk | +work |
| 10:19.52 | mitch0 | mikk: isn't "nil" a valid value for the original arg |
| 10:19.53 | mitch0 | ? |
| 10:20.24 | Mikk | it is, but this test would only fail if the caller switches between having no argument and nil as an argument |
| 10:20.47 | Mikk | which sounds like a mildly wonky thing to do |
| 10:20.58 | Mikk | (note that he would still have to point at the same function) |
| 10:21.26 | Mikk | so like blah:Reg("SomeEvent", myfunc) and then later blah:Reg("SomeEvent", myfunc, nil) ... or vice versa |
| 10:22.04 | mitch0 | yeah |
| 10:22.08 | mitch0 | could happen though :) |
| 10:22.24 | mitch0 | I do wonky stuff when I load-on-demand my options handling, for example |
| 10:22.30 | mitch0 | overwriting methods and whatnot |
| 10:22.38 | Mikk | i'm comfortable with the struck-by-lightning chance that even if it did, myfunc wouldn't care if it was fed 0 params or nil |
| 10:23.04 | mitch0 | it'll get the rest of the params, but at a bad place, so it'll probably barf |
| 10:23.18 | mitch0 | self[method](self, arg, ...) <- |
| 10:23.19 | Mikk | oh shit it changes param ordering |
| 10:23.23 | Mikk | bangs head @ desk |
| 10:23.27 | Mikk | STOP BEING DIFFICULT WITH ME! |
| 10:24.06 | mitch0 | couldn't this be an upgrade issue? |
| 10:24.11 | ennuilg | So, um, ignoring my shitty config code, and the fact that I'm using an deprecated bars library - does this look like an issue with CallBackHandler-1.0, or an issue with the way I'm using CallBackHandler-1.0? |
| 10:24.31 | Mikk | ennuilg: if your code behaves with those 3 lines commented out, it's not your fault |
| 10:24.36 | mitch0 | like, register with pre1.0.4, then later 1.0.4 loads and doesn't "fix" the method table? |
| 10:25.43 | Mikk | mitch0: the easy way out is to just nil out the method table and create a new one :P |
| 10:26.02 | Mikk | i mean.. nevc doesn't recreate the method table on upgrade either |
| 10:26.22 | Mikk | he just lets it get created as needed |
| 10:26.22 | Arrowmaster | there is no upgrade |
| 10:26.47 | Mikk | this is also true |
| 10:26.50 | Mikk | this is internal to a registry |
| 10:26.59 | Mikk | which never gets upgraded |
| 10:27.15 | Mikk | has been up for too long. bloody mid day |
| 10:27.22 | ennuilg | How can I easily see the diff between the current CallBackHandler and the one before yesterday - as that's when the problems appeared to start? If it's those three lines, then I'll be confident I've not effed something up. |
| 10:27.33 | Mikk | it's those 3 lines |
| 10:27.37 | ennuilg | OK. |
| 10:27.59 | Arrowmaster | svn diff -c 7 urltocallbackhandler |
| 10:28.18 | ennuilg | Arrowmaster: Thanks. |
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| 10:28.36 | mitch0 | I don't get this part: http://ace.pastey.net/125303 |
| 10:29.41 | Arrowmaster | the queue? |
| 10:29.46 | Mikk | fiddling with a table while it is being iterated over causes the iterator to fail |
| 10:30.00 | Arrowmaster | depends how you fiddle with it |
| 10:30.02 | Mikk | the only safe operation is modifying/deleting the currently-iterated item |
| 10:30.10 | Mikk | by spec |
| 10:30.19 | Arrowmaster | not true if its an array |
| 10:30.30 | Mikk | iterated over with pairs()* |
| 10:31.06 | mitch0 | what makes me uneasy is that the new stuff (methods[xx][xx] = ) is not aligned with the old stuff (events[xx]..) |
| 10:31.08 | Mikk | or to be even more unnecessarily-nitpicky: if iterated over using "next" |
| 10:31.21 | Mikk | mitch0: indeed, that's what i was angsting over also |
| 10:31.40 | Mikk | and why i wanted an entirely different approach |
| 10:31.49 | Arrowmaster | The behavior of next is undefined if, during the traversal, you assign any value to a non-existent field in the table. You may however modify existing fields. In particular, you may clear existing fields. |
| 10:32.24 | Mikk | oho clearing any field is allowed? |
| 10:32.26 | Mikk | my bad |
| 10:32.37 | Mikk | i thought it could go titsup if you e.g. cleared the next field |
| 10:33.19 | Mikk | er no damnit |
| 10:33.20 | Mikk | i knew this |
| 10:33.25 | Mikk | at least i knew it when i wrote the lib >.< |
| 10:33.29 | Mikk | because i don't queue deletes |
| 10:33.32 | Mikk | SIGH |
| 10:33.36 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 10:33.41 | Mikk | i might just go to bed now before i make an even bigger ass out of myself |
| 10:34.25 | Mikk | oh right here we go |
| 10:34.32 | Mikk | yes, the current check will misbehave |
| 10:34.41 | Mikk | because it doesn't check for what's in the insert queue |
| 10:34.41 | ennuilg | Is this something we should revert until a better solution can be found? My curse page has gone ballistic and there's nothing I can do to help these people... |
| 10:34.48 | Mikk | yes |
| 10:34.52 | Mikk | i'm reverting this now entirely |
| 10:35.03 | Toadkiller | Has anyone made a hierarchical config? That is for example in a bar mod you would have settings at the mod level, that can be overriden by settings at the bar ridden, then at the button level. So basically layers of settings so they can be shared across characters / classes / specs / etc. |
| 10:35.05 | ennuilg | That's great. Thanks Mikk. |
| 10:35.31 | mitch0 | ennuilg: just point to the 1.0.3 tag in your .pkgmeat |
| 10:35.34 | mitch0 | meta even |
| 10:35.39 | Arrowmaster | wont work |
| 10:35.40 | Mikk | mitch he's not the only one affected |
| 10:35.42 | Mikk | i'm fixing |
| 10:35.52 | Mikk | and yeah won't work either if someone else embeds 1.0.4 |
| 10:36.11 | mitch0 | ennuilg: libs/CallbackHandler-1.0: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/callbackhandler/mainline/tags/1.0.3/CallbackHandler-1.0 |
| 10:36.20 | Arrowmaster | wont work |
| 10:36.28 | Arrowmaster | and thats not how you do tags now |
| 10:36.49 | mitch0 | arrow: won't work? how come? |
| 10:37.08 | mitch0 | ah, won't work if someone lese embeds the new stuff... |
| 10:37.09 | Arrowmaster | because another mod could load 1.0.4 before his |
| 10:37.20 | mitch0 | (or after) |
| 10:37.23 | mitch0 | yeah |
| 10:37.36 | mitch0 | so, how do you "do tags" now? |
| 10:37.41 | ennuilg | So a revert becomes 1.0.5 ? |
| 10:38.11 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: while your at it kill the CallbackHandler-1.0.xml in the root dir and load the stuff in it from the toc, it shouldnt exist at all and atleast one person has attempted to embed using it |
| 10:38.12 | Repo | 10callbackhandler: 03mikk * r9 CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: |
| 10:38.15 | Repo | Ripping out nevc's changes which have many problems and cause errors out in the field. Bump to 1.0.5. |
| 10:38.24 | mitch0 | ah, the url: and tag: stuff? |
| 10:38.50 | ennuilg | Can I force a repackage of my -libs, or should I commit a minor change? |
| 10:38.51 | [Ammo] | Mikk: update the file in Ace3 as well |
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| 10:39.24 | Mikk | ennuilg: make a tag |
| 10:39.31 | Odahilys | Hello everyone |
| 10:39.34 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: not seeing the problem |
| 10:39.41 | Odahilys | Does anyone here able to provide support for Bartender4? |
| 10:39.46 | ennuilg | Ah yes - perfect, thanks Mikk. |
| 10:40.00 | vhaarr | ennuilg: I dunno what you're talking about, candy-3 doesn't handle anchors at all. |
| 10:40.00 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: its not suppost to exist |
| 10:40.15 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: ill just do it myself |
| 10:40.28 | Mikk | uh no first explain to me what the problem is |
| 10:40.35 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt exist |
| 10:40.42 | Mikk | thank you for that clarification |
| 10:40.46 | Mikk | can you try again? |
| 10:40.49 | Arrowmaster | it has no reason to exist |
| 10:40.58 | Odahilys | Can someone help me with Bart4, the bars wont unlock when i press both Minimap and through the /bt thing |
| 10:41.07 | Mikk | getting libstub + cbh with a single pull? |
| 10:41.09 | Arrowmaster | and it creates confusion for slow people like Shadowed |
| 10:41.18 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: yes it shouldnt exist |
| 10:41.26 | ennuilg | vhaarr: Yes. No anchors/no multiple anchors - still seems a retrograde step from LibBars... |
| 10:41.34 | Mikk | loads of libraries are set up this way |
| 10:41.35 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: because you arent suppost to get libstub from CBH's repo |
| 10:41.41 | Arrowmaster | no they arent |
| 10:41.42 | Mikk | embed the root you get all support libs needed |
| 10:41.53 | Mikk | embed subdir you only get what you want and need to fix everything else yourself |
| 10:41.54 | vhaarr | ennuilg: you simply need to code the anchors in your addon, there's many examples including oRA3 and BigWigs. |
| 10:41.56 | Arrowmaster | and they load libstub from the toc |
| 10:42.00 | mitch0 | arrow: I do the embed via CBH.xml, too. what's wrong with that? |
| 10:42.08 | Arrowmaster | no other library loads libstub from anything but a toc |
| 10:42.20 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: there are two CBH.xml's |
| 10:42.23 | Arrowmaster | thats the problem |
| 10:42.26 | mitch0 | ah |
| 10:42.29 | Mikk | still doesn't see the problem |
| 10:42.32 | mitch0 | I use the one deeper |
| 10:42.44 | Odahilys | Anyone? |
| 10:42.52 | mitch0 | but I see how it could confuse someone |
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| 10:43.22 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: every other library loads libstub from its toc, you are not suppost to ever get and load libstub from another libraries repo |
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| 10:43.29 | ennuilg | vhaarr: Yeah. I may look at doing that and changing up to CandyBars-3.0 at a later date. I think I probably have bigger problems to solve first though. |
| 10:44.05 | [Ammo] | Mikk: are you going to fix the early return anytime? |
| 10:44.29 | Mikk | [Ammo]: probably not today because i'm about to headdesk from tired |
| 10:45.15 | [Ammo] | at least update CBH in Ace3 then |
| 10:45.39 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: weird i could have sworn there was libs set up so you could pull the root and get all support libs needed. or pull deeper and only get the lib. |
| 10:46.05 | Odahilys | your kidding me right, none of you can help me with my Bartender4 problem |
| 10:46.14 | Mikk | ~asktoask |
| 10:46.15 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 10:46.19 | Arrowmaster | Mikk: no, you may get other libs when you do that but there is no way to load them unless you manually load each one |
| 10:46.43 | Odahilys | Already did... look up |
| 10:46.47 | Odahilys | "Can someone help me with Bart4, the bars wont unlock when i press both Minimap and through the /bt thing " |
| 10:47.42 | Mikk | it seems like there is indeed noone here that can help you right this minute |
| 10:48.09 | Mikk | i hope you continue to enjoy the software that we write in our free time and share for $0 |
| 10:48.13 | vhaarr | Odahilys: how many people are in this channel at the moment, can you see? |
| 10:48.31 | Odahilys | over 30 thats for sure |
| 10:48.54 | vhaarr | Odahilys: you think they're all here looking at the screen, _waiting_ for some RANDOM person to join with a problem they can help with? |
| 10:48.56 | mitch0 | and there are over 6 million wow users! can you feel the burden? |
| 10:48.56 | vhaarr | get a fucking clue |
| 10:49.02 | vhaarr | Odahilys: you ask, then you wait 6 hours |
| 10:49.07 | vhaarr | Odahilys: then, if no answer, you ask again or leave |
| 10:49.26 | Mikk | or event better post in the forum thread |
| 10:49.29 | Mikk | even* |
| 10:49.42 | Mikk | because then your target audience is bt4 users and devs |
| 10:49.51 | Mikk | and not a realtime chat channel where everything wow gets discussed |
| 10:50.02 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r274 .pkgmeta: change the way how we pull in CBH, use latest tag |
| 10:50.09 | Repo | 10callbackhandler: 03Arrowmaster * r10 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 10:50.12 | Repo | Load LibStub from the toc and remove root CallbackHandler-1.0.xml file to avoid confusion for addon authors on which xml to use |
| 10:50.59 | mitch0 | well, apart from the arg handling, I don't see how CBH1.0.4 could break other addons... |
| 10:51.12 | Mikk | it has a problem with recursion also |
| 10:51.14 | Repo | 10ace3: 03Ammo * r846 CallbackHandler-1.0/CallbackHandler-1.0.lua: update to 1.0.5 |
| 10:51.19 | [Ammo] | slackermikk |
| 10:51.24 | Mikk | did i mention really tired? |
| 10:51.32 | [Ammo] | hehe |
| 10:51.49 | Repo | 10callbackhandler: 03mikk 041.0.5 * r11 : Tagging as 1.0.5 |
| 10:51.49 | mitch0 | ammo: any reason why ace3 hard-embeds CBH instead of via .pkgmeta? |
| 10:52.04 | Mikk | because that's what we ask people to do in general |
| 10:52.09 | Mikk | but people don't like that :P |
| 10:52.13 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 10:52.14 | mitch0 | no wonder |
| 10:52.16 | mitch0 | :) |
| 10:52.19 | Arrowmaster | look at the libstub page |
| 10:52.33 | Mikk | nah |
| 10:52.35 | Mikk | the reason is |
| 10:52.41 | Mikk | because callbackhandler used to live inside ace3 |
| 10:52.43 | Mikk | and then got copied out |
| 10:52.50 | Mikk | because some people felt "dirty" reaching into ace3 to get to it |
| 10:52.54 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/addons/libstub/ |
| 10:53.08 | Mikk | seems to remember ck-k making that particular comment |
| 10:53.16 | Arrowmaster | i should copy that page to callbackhandler page |
| 10:54.51 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r49 / (2 files in 1 directory): 09/09/17 1.1.12 |
| 10:54.54 | Repo | - Retagged/packaged to use reverted CallBackHandler-1.0 |
| 10:55.25 | Mikk | mitch0: anyway, the additional problem with the cbh mods |
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| 10:55.47 | Mikk | is, like you pointed out, the difference between events/methods and insertqueue |
| 10:56.12 | Mikk | i'm a bit tired like i said, but i think the following can happen |
| 10:56.18 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v1.1.12 * r50 : Tagging as v1.1.12 |
| 10:56.41 | mitch0 | arrow: imo LibStub be just like any other lib... |
| 10:57.02 | Mikk | no wait i can't even express it |
| 10:57.06 | Mikk | but yeah they can desynch |
| 10:57.18 | Mikk | which might lead to a valid reregistration not happening |
| 10:57.32 | mitch0 | waitwaitwait! |
| 10:57.46 | mitch0 | doesn't teh queue processing call this same register thing? |
| 10:58.00 | Mikk | no |
| 10:58.54 | mitch0 | meh, no :( |
| 10:59.02 | mitch0 | would've been a nice catch ;) |
| 10:59.36 | mitch0 | then I don't see how they could get desynced |
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| 11:00.37 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6318 Coliseum/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
| 11:00.55 | ennuilg | That definitely fixed my issue. Thanks for all the help guys... |
| 11:01.16 | Mikk | headdesks |
| 11:01.21 | Mikk | damnit i had a grasp on it minutes ago |
| 11:02.17 | Mikk | no wait it immediately changes existing regs, it doesnt queue those |
| 11:02.50 | Mikk | something tells me i should have written quirkier testcases |
| 11:03.19 | ennuilg | [Ammo]: In terms of my config - my plan is to (slightly) expand the vulnerability data table and then use that to dynamically create the configuration table to be inserted into the Blizz config stuff. Does that sound like the way to go? |
| 11:05.52 | Mikk | wonders if nevc even ran test cases |
| 11:05.59 | Mikk | tests |
| 11:06.11 | Kalroth | it compiles = ready for release |
| 11:06.52 | Mikk | mmmmmno that's not the ace3 tenet :P |
| 11:07.12 | Mikk | i'll merrily admit to doing that with an addon alpha or three though ^^ |
| 11:07.57 | Mikk | yeah even the broken cbh passes the tests |
| 11:07.58 | Mikk | sighs |
| 11:08.11 | Arrowmaster | there i made the directions in http://www.wowace.com/addons/callbackhandler/ match up with http://www.wowace.com/addons/libstub/ |
| 11:08.29 | Arrowmaster | both pages still need converting from cursewiki to wikicerole though |
| 11:08.31 | Mikk | because when it tests with different arguments, it also changes the function pointers |
| 11:09.04 | Mikk | so didn't trigger the early return |
| 11:10.35 | Mikk | Arrowmaster: did you read the 2nd paragraph in the page? it clashes badly with the rest now :P |
| 11:10.44 | Mikk | then again i guess we kind of had to drop that idea |
| 11:11.22 | Arrowmaster | good point |
| 11:11.27 | Repo | 10ora3: 037destiny * r269 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 11:11.29 | Mikk | deletes the paragraph entirely |
| 11:11.29 | Arrowmaster | but it was droped long ago |
| 11:11.30 | Repo | Add locales for Translation(monitor - Cooldowns header text). |
| 11:11.33 | Repo | koKR Update. |
| 11:12.38 | Elkano | is there a fully transparent texture in WoW one could use as placeholder in a fontstring? |
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| 11:12.57 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6319 Core/Core.lua: Fix enablezones name. |
| 11:13.23 | Arrowmaster | the directions really should say to use 'tag: latest' and such in the .pkgmeta but i dont want to make that stuff too big, could probably just have a single example .pkgmeta entry and point both parts to it |
| 11:14.11 | Mikk | aye, tag:latest didn't exist then |
| 11:14.45 | Arrowmaster | and you have to use url:.... to use tag:latest |
| 11:22.24 | Bruners | ckknight: poke |
| 11:23.04 | Bruners | is it still sleeping time in the US btw? |
| 11:23.39 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:24.31 | dodga | It's always sleeping everywhere. |
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| 11:27.33 | Elkano | cool, my new advanced filters for ItemDB are working :) |
| 11:28.00 | Repo | 10head-count: 03kagaro * r99 HeadCountConstants.lua: Patch for Northrend Beasts death detection. |
| 11:34.34 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6320 Core/Core.lua: Missed one. |
| 11:36.27 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6321 Core/Core.lua: readd some babble checking |
| 11:38.46 | Fisker | slaps Repo around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:40.47 | Elkano | ~lart fisker |
| 11:40.47 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on fisker and turns fisker into a brick |
| 11:42.03 | Groktar | cheers purl |
| 11:42.09 | Groktar | ~botsnack |
| 11:42.09 | purl | Groktar: aw, gee |
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| 11:42.22 | Groktar | ~lart MrRuben5 |
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| 11:55.25 | Repo | 10range-display: 03mitch0 * r275 .pkgmeta: fix CBH repo path to only pull in stuff we need |
| 11:57.57 | Elkano | oh wow, another Blizzard fail ^^ |
| 11:58.37 | Elkano | mp5 on items can be returned as either ITEM_MOD_MANA_REGENERATION_SHORT or ITEM_MOD_POWER_REGEN0_SHORT by GetItemStats |
| 11:59.13 | TNSe | heh |
| 11:59.38 | TNSe | all items return both or is it seemingly random what they return? |
| 11:59.51 | Elkano | it's exclusive |
| 12:00.06 | TNSe | POWER REGEN seems weird. |
| 12:00.25 | mitch0 | mikk: I think I found why scorchio fails |
| 12:00.37 | mitch0 | and it's not CBH's fault |
| 12:00.43 | Elkano | of the about 13k items I have in cache, about 300 go with the first and about 550 with the second |
| 12:00.50 | mitch0 | http://ace.pastey.net/125305 |
| 12:02.07 | TNSe | I have hated mp5 since the start :P |
| 12:02.14 | TNSe | Glad they are tossign it away |
| 12:02.57 | Mikk | [Ammo]: you fail http://ace.pastey.net/125305 |
| 12:03.07 | Mikk | what the hell is wrong with UnregisterAll() ? |
| 12:03.41 | Zeksie | heh |
| 12:03.50 | Zeksie | too many vowels |
| 12:04.45 | Repo | 10itemdb: 03Elkano * r48 / (3 files in 1 directory): - replaced getglobal(x) with _G[x] |
| 12:04.48 | Repo | - will use GetItemInfo for sell value |
| 12:04.51 | Repo | - added advanced filters to include/exclude items with specific attributes |
| 12:05.08 | Elkano | feel free to test and have fun with it :) |
| 12:05.31 | mitch0 | mikk: how's that ammo's fail? |
| 12:06.43 | [Ammo] | Mikk: who what wehere? |
| 12:07.08 | [Ammo] | where did you dug up that code? |
| 12:07.17 | mitch0 | LibBars |
| 12:07.25 | [Ammo] | I had nothing to do with libbars |
| 12:07.35 | [Ammo] | libbars is an abomination, a piece of flying crap lib |
| 12:07.45 | mitch0 | that's why I asked how it's your fail :) |
| 12:07.59 | mitch0 | in any case, that's what caused the scorchio error, not CBH |
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| 12:08.19 | Mikk | sigh i thought ammo did libbars |
| 12:08.25 | Mikk | can i chew him out anyway cause i feel like it? |
| 12:08.31 | mitch0 | sure |
| 12:08.32 | [Ammo] | chew me out bitch |
| 12:08.40 | [Ammo] | I'll make sure to leave some scars |
| 12:08.51 | mitch0 | project page says it's Antiarc's :) |
| 12:09.08 | Mikk | ammo you are a pus-filled boil on the sphincter muscle of humanity |
| 12:09.20 | [Ammo] | that sounds about right |
| 12:09.24 | Mikk | damnit no fun |
| 12:09.31 | [Ammo] | pinch me and I will spew filth |
| 12:09.34 | mitch0 | 19 rev relationships for LibBars |
| 12:09.40 | mitch0 | anyone care to fix it? :) |
| 12:10.33 | Mikk | Antiarc: you suck for digging around in callbackhandler's internals with your filthy code and making things break! |
| 12:10.41 | Mikk | oh and pus-filled boil etcetc |
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| 12:12.36 | mitch0 | http://ace.pastey.net/125306 |
| 12:13.19 | mitch0 | but I'm always confused about the . and : when I'm around CBH, so someone should check it ;) |
| 12:13.36 | mitch0 | & |
| 12:13.47 | Adirelle|work | actually, lots of libbars callbacks could be handled by animation now |
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| 12:14.21 | [Ammo] | I hear Adirelle will take up supporting and maintaining libbars to ensure it's quality |
| 12:14.35 | Adirelle|work | no way, I already did |
| 12:14.59 | Adirelle|work | since I decided bars are awful, I prefer icons now |
| 12:16.59 | Toadkiller | wait what? Bars are bad? Dammit, I was about to facilitate mana bars in Grid2. |
| 12:18.49 | orionshock | hehe, just got [Reins of the White Polar Bear] :) |
| 12:19.03 | Toadkiller | the blizzcon thing? |
| 12:19.23 | orionshock | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43962 |
| 12:19.39 | orionshock | rare drop from daily quest in storm peaks |
| 12:22.01 | Toadkiller | Oh rite. Yeah I couldnt stomach doing those, especially the spew on eggs ones. Too much competition during expansion. |
| 12:22.28 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6322 Plugins (3 files in 1 directory): Nuke the target monitor plugin. |
| 12:23.28 | sb|work | nuke? |
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| 12:23.54 | Toadkiller | insert into microwave...? |
| 12:24.05 | vhaarr | kill, remove, delete |
| 12:24.57 | Mikk | cause to cease to exist |
| 12:24.58 | Mikk | utterly |
| 12:25.02 | Mikk | decisively |
| 12:25.33 | Toadkiller | immamentize the eschaton |
| 12:26.24 | Mikk | that doesn't sound decisive enough |
| 12:26.40 | Mikk | it sounds about as scary as giving someone a bellyrub |
| 12:27.16 | Toadkiller | To immanentize the eschaton means trying to make the eschaton (the transcendent, uncreated, spiritual, or future; the end of days, to trigger the apocalypse, see eschatology) in the immanent (within the limits of possible experience) world. |
| 12:27.57 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r246 / (2 files in 2 directories): Update frFR. |
| 12:28.00 | Repo | Fixes Tickets 30 and 31. |
| 12:28.03 | Repo | Thanks Strigx |
| 12:28.27 | Mikk | Do you mind if I don't feel bad about not knowing that? And possibly for having forgotten it before my next cup of coffee? |
| 12:28.53 | Mikk | immamentizes coffee |
| 12:28.56 | Toadkiller | Not at all, only reason I knew is that I read some illuminati book like 20 years ago |
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| 12:29.40 | Toadkiller | They were runnining around trying to bring on the apocalypse (eschaton etc.). So yeah, carry on ... nothing to see here. |
| 12:29.48 | Mikk | lumber cartel > illuminati |
| 12:30.08 | Toadkiller | stone masons > lumber jacks |
| 12:30.10 | Repo | 10spell-reminder: 03oridan * r194 / (2 files in 1 directory): SpellReminder: |
| 12:30.13 | Repo | - remove vehicle support temporarily (stop spammy bars from not disappearing). |
| 12:30.59 | Elkano | http://static.wowace.com/content/images/17/133/ItemDB_2_0_3.png :) |
| 12:31.10 | Mikk | this has nothing to do with lumber jacks |
| 12:31.18 | Mikk | you must fear the lumber cartel (TinLC) |
| 12:32.13 | Megalon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg#t=24 ! |
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| 12:32.24 | Toadkiller | so spam is a type of wood? |
| 12:32.44 | Elkano | I thought spam was some kind of meat |
| 12:33.21 | Toadkiller | no, your thinking of a delicious pork product |
| 12:33.29 | Toadkiller | *you're |
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| 12:36.38 | Megalon | egg and bacon |
| 12:36.43 | Megalon | egg, sausage and bacon |
| 12:36.47 | Megalon | egg and spam! |
| 12:37.10 | Toadkiller | green eggs and spam! |
| 12:38.02 | Megalon | spam spam spam spam spam bacon and spam! |
| 12:38.25 | Toadkiller | dont forget the baconaise! |
| 12:40.22 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6323 / (6 files in 3 directories): Implement most of the front-page options. |
| 12:40.51 | Daemona | wow, thats what i call an abomination |
| 12:40.53 | Daemona | http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/gizmodo/full/~3/bWdiNXWMBlw/itg-xpphone-runs-windows-xp-pre+orders-for-att-vodafone-and-orange |
| 12:41.48 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Sayclub * r247 / (2 files in 2 directories): koKR update |
| 12:42.12 | Toadkiller | omfg, xp on a "smartphone"? |
| 12:42.20 | Toadkiller | talk about not getting it |
| 12:43.14 | Kalroth | what, no win7? humbug! |
| 12:43.16 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6324 Options/Options.lua: Wording change. |
| 12:43.40 | Toadkiller | Vista or bust! |
| 12:44.56 | Toadkiller | jeebus, 1 pound phone! havent done that since the motorola brick in the late 80's |
| 12:46.43 | Codayus | Actually, that looks...pretty decent. |
| 12:47.06 | orionshock | Toadkiller: .. about vista, can i castrate you for that comment? |
| 12:47.27 | Codayus | Don't think of it as a phone running windows; think of it as a really small computer with a built in cellular modem. :-) |
| 12:47.33 | Toadkiller | lol, only if you deny the inherent sarcasm without smiling or breaking eye contact! |
| 12:47.36 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6325 Options/Options.lua: Some more wording tweaks. |
| 12:47.41 | orionshock | hehe... |
| 12:47.51 | orionshock | i just hate vista, well i hate my job in context of vista... |
| 12:48.20 | Wobin | http://cheezburger.com/View.aspx?aid=2637222144 |
| 12:48.21 | Toadkiller | I like vista better than xp to be honest. But then I got a MS store discount on it. |
| 12:48.34 | Wobin | I got it for free =) |
| 12:48.46 | Wobin | and since it's W7 64 |
| 12:48.51 | Wobin | I got to put in more RAM! |
| 12:48.59 | Wobin | \o/ |
| 12:49.17 | Toadkiller | Yeah ive been boning up on the latest hardware & gpu so I can build out a win7 machine in the next 6 months or so |
| 12:49.33 | Wobin | W7 is remarkably easy on gear |
| 12:49.37 | Codayus | Toadkiller: Switch to Win 7 now if your already running Vista. |
| 12:49.39 | Wobin | my friend runs it on his netbook |
| 12:49.45 | Toadkiller | I like the triple channel stuff |
| 12:49.47 | Codayus | You'll thank me later. |
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| 12:50.03 | Codayus | (The upgrade process is VERY smooth, and it should run better on the same hardware.) |
| 12:50.04 | Wobin | agrees |
| 12:50.08 | Toadkiller | I have win7 on preorder. was too lazy to do the free prreviews |
| 12:50.11 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 12:50.22 | Toadkiller | mmm |
| 12:50.37 | Toadkiller | Its shipping this month tho rite? |
| 12:50.44 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6326 Options/Options.lua: Tweak. |
| 12:51.11 | Codayus | I think so. |
| 12:51.35 | Daemona | Oct. 22nd no? |
| 12:52.00 | Codayus | Er, yeah, I thought this was October for a moment there. >.> |
| 12:54.04 | Toadkiller | Today I join the fiber to curb club! 50mb down, and 20 up!!! |
| 12:54.25 | Wobin | ... oh |
| 12:54.31 | Wobin | I read that as like.. metamucil |
| 12:55.03 | Toadkiller | haha with that kind of io u dont need metamucil, you will never get off the pot! |
| 12:56.44 | mitch0 | is anyone able to test a libbars using addon? or should I just stop caring? |
| 12:57.00 | mitch0 | (seel commit about spell-reminder) |
| 12:57.01 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: yatba uses it |
| 12:57.20 | mitch0 | who is yatba? |
| 12:57.26 | mitch0 | and can he test a commit now? :) |
| 12:57.30 | Adirelle|work | @describe yatba |
| 12:57.31 | Repo | Adirelle|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/yatba/. Yatba. Yatba stands for "Yet Another Timer Bar Addon". It is an aura (i.e. buff/debuff) tracker. It relies on both unit aura informa... |
| 12:57.59 | mitch0 | adirelle: I need a person kind of tester :) |
| 12:58.14 | mitch0 | I think I have a fix for the breakage, but I can't test it |
| 12:58.19 | Adirelle|work | er... as I just decided to start working, I'm afraid I won't test it now |
| 12:58.56 | mitch0 | adirelle: well, here it is if you'll ever feel like applying/testing it: http://ace.pastey.net/125306 |
| 12:59.02 | mitch0 | (it's for LibBars-1.0.lua |
| 12:59.40 | Adirelle|work | crap, my explorer is dying again |
| 12:59.49 | mitch0 | www.opera.com |
| 12:59.54 | Adirelle|work | windows one |
| 12:59.57 | Adirelle|work | not internet |
| 13:00.06 | mitch0 | ubuntu.org :P |
| 13:00.09 | Adirelle|work | can't even obtain the task manager using ctrl+alt+del |
| 13:00.34 | mitch0 | com even, but meh |
| 13:00.43 | orionshock | hehe.. support your deity of choice, use linux :) |
| 13:00.51 | Adirelle|work | that's what I'm using at home |
| 13:00.58 | Adirelle|work | but here I need windows |
| 13:01.19 | Adirelle|work | though I could put it in a VM box |
| 13:01.29 | mitch0 | I bet "need" is not the right word |
| 13:01.43 | profalbert | "forced to" |
| 13:01.44 | Adirelle|work | well, I could install linux if I really wanted to |
| 13:02.08 | Adirelle|work | but explaining how to install this or that soft under windows without using it is quite hard |
| 13:02.17 | orionshock | windows is like alcohol gone bad. it's nice every now and then, and often times it's fun to get completely smashed.. but being on windows is like being drunk 24/7, it's only fun for a while but eventually starts to suck exponentially |
| 13:02.56 | Adirelle|work | ok, so I'm going to hard reboot that shit |
| 13:02.57 | Adirelle|work | brb |
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| 13:03.33 | Mikk | i still wonder what kinds of wonderful experience-enhancing things people are expecting out of win7 |
| 13:03.47 | orionshock | when ctl alt del dosn't immediately respond, it gets an OSRI with in a few seconds. |
| 13:03.53 | sb|work | vhaarr: can you disable those nasty whispers? :p (or make the option work) |
| 13:04.04 | vhaarr | sb|work: option works now |
| 13:04.08 | vhaarr | and it's disabled by default |
| 13:04.10 | sb|work | yay thanks |
| 13:04.31 | Mikk | i mean... it's a fricking os. you spend 99.99% of your time NOT looking at it |
| 13:04.33 | Mikk | shrugs |
| 13:05.00 | Mikk | i feel old :< |
| 13:05.01 | Codayus | Mikk: Win7 lets you spend les time looking at it. :-) |
| 13:05.15 | Wobin | oh yeah, one other thing I like about W7 |
| 13:05.23 | Wobin | although it could be a 'freshly installed OS' thing |
| 13:05.34 | Mikk | Betcha the time spent waiting for the installer outweighs any gains for the next 10 years |
| 13:05.35 | Wobin | is that I can shut down without explorer.exe crashing out and freezing =P |
| 13:05.46 | ennuilg | mitch0: I'm back now - if you need me to test something with Scorchio! 2 then let me know. |
| 13:05.48 | Codayus | Plus, if you've used Windows for a while, the experience of using an OS that isn't actively bad is so novel its refreshing. |
| 13:05.50 | Wobin | The actual install took about an hour |
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| 13:06.15 | Mikk | Wobin: sounds about right. how much time do YOU spend looking at your OS? =P |
| 13:06.22 | Wobin | the thing that took time was transferring settings from a XP32 to W764 through an external USB hard drive |
| 13:06.22 | Mikk | and how much is saved by W7? =P |
| 13:06.36 | Wobin | 'looking'? |
| 13:06.53 | Codayus | (Also, the new taskbar is full of win, even if it's mostly a blatant rip-off of OS X.) |
| 13:06.54 | Wobin | it's actually faster to get apps running |
| 13:07.01 | mitch0 | ennuilg: apply this patch to your LibBars-1.0.lua, check out the "broken" CBH and see if the problem is still around: http://ace.pastey.net/125306 |
| 13:07.02 | Wobin | cause the searchbox is pretty damn good |
| 13:07.19 | ennuilg | mitch0: Will do. |
| 13:07.21 | Wobin | 1) hit windows key. 2) start typing the name 3) hit enter as soon as there's a match |
| 13:07.36 | Wobin | most commonly used apps take a few keystrokes to gain access to |
| 13:07.46 | Mikk | 1) hit windows+r 2) start typing the name 3) hit enter as soon as there's a match |
| 13:07.47 | Mikk | i dunno |
| 13:07.51 | Mikk | i could do that back with win95 |
| 13:07.54 | Wobin | no more searching through the damn start menu |
| 13:07.55 | Mikk | one more key, granted |
| 13:08.29 | Wobin | Mikk: er, that's only if your program is in the env search path =P |
| 13:08.38 | Wobin | which most installs don't add |
| 13:08.40 | mitch0 | hit terminal icon, type in command. press enter |
| 13:09.03 | Wobin | Functionality wise, it's much better than XP |
| 13:09.10 | Wobin | (Vista, well that goes without saying =P) |
| 13:09.20 | Mikk | vista has search in the start button |
| 13:09.40 | Wobin | Mac? Well I've never actually felt comfortable in finding stuff, but I haven't used it much |
| 13:09.40 | Mikk | not that i like OSes that keep me from watching video on my projector |
| 13:09.58 | Codayus | The thing about Win 7 is...there's a lot of very very minor improvements, but the total result is nice. For example, it displays the date next to the time on the task bar. And when you alt-tab you can click on the windows that are displayed. Or to maximise a window you can drag it to the top of the monitor. *shrug* Nothing you'd upgrade for on its own, but... |
| 13:10.10 | Mikk | no, my projector shipped before the "i am a secure DRM-compliant output" shit was invented |
| 13:10.27 | Mikk | so vista doesn't want to play hidef movies on it |
| 13:10.30 | Mikk | it think's i'm ripping |
| 13:10.38 | Mikk | can swap over to vga though |
| 13:10.39 | Wobin | You pirate! You! |
| 13:10.44 | Codayus | Wobin: Search is better on OS X, IMHO. Apple+Space pops up searchlight, which is like the Win7/vista start menu search, but better. OTOH....OS X. *shrug* |
| 13:11.00 | Wobin | how is it better? |
| 13:11.21 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: your libbars-1.0 won't work |
| 13:11.27 | Codayus | Seems slightly faster, more powerful, nicer interface. *shrug* |
| 13:11.38 | Wobin | ps omg, "The Wizarding World" is opening in 2010 in Orlando |
| 13:11.43 | mitch0 | adirelle: guessed as much ;) |
| 13:11.44 | orionshock | one of the top 10 worst things to happen to civilization, copyrights. |
| 13:11.55 | Mikk | i don't mind copyrights so much |
| 13:11.59 | Mikk | patents |
| 13:12.00 | mitch0 | adirelle: why not though? |
| 13:12.13 | Mikk | patents are |
| 13:12.14 | Mikk | argh |
| 13:12.46 | ckknight | Mikk: all patents? |
| 13:12.53 | orionshock | then again, i also think that FreeMarket economies are bad ideas.. then again i don't trust the leaches to do anything else... |
| 13:13.10 | Codayus | orionshock: That's a rediculous claim on its face. You might MAYBE have a point if you limited yourself to the current quasi-indefinite copyrights. |
| 13:13.36 | Mikk | ckknight: good question. i like the idea of the independent inventor getting his share of the riches of a very very good idea |
| 13:13.37 | orionshock | lets just leave this where it is, on the ground... |
| 13:13.38 | ckknight | I like 14-year copyrights |
| 13:13.44 | Codayus | (I doubt you'd get in the top 10, but at least that's fairly unambiguously bad. The concept of copyright itself is not.) |
| 13:13.44 | Mikk | ckknight: but er that's not what happens in 99% of cases these days |
| 13:13.58 | Wobin | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1921078 |
| 13:14.03 | ckknight | Mikk: so you know, I'm pro-corporation |
| 13:14.13 | ckknight | there's a lot of amazing things corporations have researched |
| 13:14.25 | ckknight | that they otherwise wouldn't've had they not had patent incentive |
| 13:14.40 | Mikk | that's probably also true |
| 13:14.44 | ckknight | really, patents just make it so that people are willing to share how they do something rather than keep a trade secret |
| 13:14.47 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: let me remember (reading the code again) |
| 13:14.48 | ckknight | a world of trade secrets is bad. |
| 13:14.55 | orionshock | nothing wrong with coporations... or biz or anything like that.. exept that the people running the show only think of next quarter and their on pocket of cash... |
| 13:15.03 | Mikk | there's also insane amounts of patents that are so junk they shouldn't even have been allowed in through the patent office's mailbox |
| 13:15.04 | ckknight | there was a steam engine back in roman times |
| 13:15.06 | orionshock | they should be thinking about the next 20/40 years ahead |
| 13:15.11 | ckknight | but the inventor never revealed how he got it working |
| 13:15.29 | ckknight | Mikk: yea, I'm not a fan of junk patents |
| 13:15.53 | Codayus | orionshock: No, they shouldn't. This year *IS* more important than next year. This decade *IS* more important than next. That's a function of life; not quarterly reports. :-) |
| 13:16.24 | Mikk | anyway, software patents is my main beef really |
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| 13:16.46 | Mikk | they're supposedly not allowed in the EU, yet there's several |
| 13:16.49 | Mikk | sighs |
| 13:16.51 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: basically libbars code wants to disable any pending callbacks registered to the bar, from whatever self they come |
| 13:17.00 | ckknight | Mikk: yea, I'm not a fan |
| 13:17.25 | Adirelle|work | CBH:UnregisterAllCallbacks only unregister callbacks for given self(s) |
| 13:17.56 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6327 Options/Options.lua: Some more tweaks for the options. |
| 13:18.23 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10-beta-1-g1498b5f Data/TriggerConditions.lua: [+1 commit] add events for other power-types (Rage, etc.) to Unit Power-Trigger Condition |
| 13:18.38 | orionshock | Codayus: do some thinking about it, i know im crazy... but there are good reasons on the fence. |
| 13:19.39 | ckknight | orionshock: it'd be unwise for some companies to think 20 years ahead |
| 13:19.41 | ckknight | and pointless |
| 13:19.44 | ckknight | take Curse for example |
| 13:19.50 | ckknight | we have a 5-year plan |
| 13:19.53 | ckknight | or at least a vague idea |
| 13:20.00 | ckknight | but more than that and it just seems folly to think about |
| 13:20.06 | ckknight | too much can change that's outside our control |
| 13:20.32 | Mikk | mm you need to be in "cannot fail" size to have 20 year plans for the company itself |
| 13:20.43 | ckknight | yea |
| 13:20.48 | Codayus | orionshock: I wouldn't say crazy - just wrong. The future is uncertain, the present is not. The future doesn't impact as strong as the present. The future is shaped BY the present. |
| 13:21.12 | mitch0 | adirelle: ah |
| 13:22.26 | Mikk | though maybe what he's getting at is "please don't dump toxic chemicals in the watertable that affect young girls' undeveloped wombs and will make them give birth to hideous monsters 20 years from now" |
| 13:22.34 | Mikk | and similar things |
| 13:22.51 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: IMO one solution could be to drop CBH to implement home-made callbacks |
| 13:23.01 | Adirelle|work | +simple |
| 13:23.08 | mitch0 | or add this functionality to CBH |
| 13:23.27 | ennuilg | mitch0: OK, that throws up an error as UnregisterAllCallbacks() isn't defined. |
| 13:23.28 | Adirelle|work | hmm, rewrite libbars would be easier I think |
| 13:23.30 | Mikk | mm it would be something that only the holder of the registry would be allowed to call |
| 13:23.32 | mitch0 | or hack the curerent stuff to follow changes in CBH :) |
| 13:23.49 | Adirelle|work | that last one could work |
| 13:23.50 | Wobin | Mikk: yeah, like funeral homes =P That's a pretty 'non fail' business |
| 13:24.05 | Mikk | Wobin: yeah and things like Lehman..... oops! |
| 13:24.15 | mitch0 | ennuilg: yeah, it's bad, sorry. I misunderstood the intent, adirelle just pointed out to me :) |
| 13:24.18 | Wobin | hehe I'd've said banks too, a year ago =P |
| 13:24.33 | mitch0 | adirelle: but that's also the most fragile thing to do... |
| 13:24.39 | Adirelle|work | yes |
| 13:24.54 | ennuilg | mitch0: OKies. No worries. Will return things to the status quo atm. Let me know if you need anything else. |
| 13:26.48 | mitch0 | ennuilg: ok, although I don't think I'll be the one to fix it. (see discussion above. I won't do the last option) |
| 13:27.51 | mitch0 | I think CBH should just provide this function (if it's a reasonable thing to do) |
| 13:27.54 | mitch0 | & |
| 13:30.34 | Adirelle|work | what's the change anyway ? |
| 13:30.44 | Adirelle|work | (in CBH I mean) |
| 13:31.54 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6328 / (2 files in 2 directories): Handle whispers directly in the prototype. |
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| 13:37.33 | Zeksie | mikk.. one of your vital and most important addons is broken! :( |
| 13:37.48 | Zeksie | Finklestein daily serum quest helper :( |
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| 13:47.50 | harl | it's not possible for an add-on to target other units that target me by just mouseover'ing them, right? |
| 13:48.53 | harl | maybe if i'd keep a key pressed at the same time? |
| 13:49.54 | mitch0 | adirelle: rev7 commit. "early exit from RegisterCallback" or somesuch |
| 13:50.09 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6330 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix yell listeners. |
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| 14:11.29 | mitch0 | I can't follow CBH code... |
| 14:12.18 | vhaarr | just ask |
| 14:13.00 | mitch0 | trying to implement UnregisterAllCallbacks() that would unregister everything from every subscriber |
| 14:13.21 | mitch0 | (btw, using self all over the place kills readability, at least for me...) |
| 14:13.46 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I'm still on the side-quest to fix LibBars :) |
| 14:13.52 | vhaarr | have fun |
| 14:14.21 | mitch0 | not much fun. I don't really know why I bother, as I don't use any LibBars based mods and it wasn't me who broke it in the first place :) |
| 14:14.49 | Adirelle|work | mitch0: stop doing it then ^^ |
| 14:14.59 | mitch0 | vhaarr: anyway, what would be a reliable way of getting all the "self"s that registered for my callbacks? |
| 14:15.28 | vhaarr | I'm busy at the moment, what I meant was |
| 14:15.30 | vhaarr | ~justask |
| 14:15.35 | vhaarr | ~asktoask |
| 14:15.35 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 14:15.36 | vhaarr | or whatever |
| 14:17.31 | Speeddymon | ~lart purl |
| 14:17.31 | purl | forces speeddymon to use Outlook Express |
| 14:17.46 | Speeddymon | d'oh |
| 14:21.32 | mitch0 | adirelle: what do you think about this: local listeners = {} |
| 14:21.38 | mitch0 | not that |
| 14:21.41 | mitch0 | stupid paste |
| 14:21.48 | mitch0 | http://ace.pastey.net/125309 <- this |
| 14:23.06 | Fisker | slaps mitch0 around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:24.56 | Groktar | weird |
| 14:25.02 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r97 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 14:25.05 | Repo | - Put ClassLoot_Data and ClassLoot_Constants in the ClassLoot addon table so others can use them. |
| 14:25.16 | Groktar | my heroic jaraxxus video without music is my most viewed |
| 14:25.20 | Groktar | boggle |
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| 14:27.06 | Gagorian | Shadowed: ping |
| 14:27.35 | vhaarr | Groktar: I will NEVER understand that people who make videos add music |
| 14:27.44 | vhaarr | Groktar: like I don't have my own fucking playlist when I'm at the computer? |
| 14:27.52 | Pneumatus | i'd much rather have someone's vent playing |
| 14:27.56 | vhaarr | yeah |
| 14:27.57 | vhaarr | or voiceover |
| 14:28.07 | Pneumatus | if im gonna listen to anything i want it to be voiceover/vent |
| 14:28.15 | Pneumatus | a-la-tankspot |
| 14:28.20 | quiescens | yeah |
| 14:28.48 | Pneumatus | hearing nerdscreams on a kill also makes a video far more interesting :) |
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| 14:30.23 | Pneumatus | moh, i can't get my raidloot dataminer to handle all the stupid bloody coliseum patterns properly |
| 14:30.28 | Groktar | i usually do music + vent |
| 14:30.29 | Pneumatus | they drop from too many guys :< |
| 14:30.41 | Groktar | with the music soft enough to clearly hear the vent conversation |
| 14:31.15 | Groktar | listens to vent over a usb headset, and then opens up a second vent on his onboard soundcard and records off that |
| 14:31.34 | Pneumatus | having vent/vo on a vid means you can pick up more about the fight that you might notice at first glance, which is always a good thing |
| 14:31.41 | Groktar | so i get my own voice without crappy game sounds |
| 14:31.44 | Pneumatus | as people generally watch kill vids for tactics, not just for the fun of it |
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| 14:35.10 | Bruners | hi ckknight |
| 14:35.54 | Pneumatus | although these days i tend to watch tankspot's first and then see if others are doing it differently to try and improve the tactic |
| 14:38.57 | mitch0 | ok, I think this should work: http://ace.pastey.net/125311 |
| 14:39.06 | mitch0 | ennuilg: are you still around? |
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| 14:42.16 | mitch0 | actually, no, that still won't work |
| 14:42.41 | ennuilg | Yes, but... oh. |
| 14:43.36 | Pneumatus | i nearly just had a heart attack.... £818 electric bill :o |
| 14:44.19 | Fisker | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:46.23 | Gagorian | Can't log in right now, anyone remember if UnitPower returns nil or 0 if you request mana and the class doesn't have a mana bar? |
| 14:48.11 | zerda | Returns zero for non-existent units. ref http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitPower |
| 14:48.16 | Pneumatus | Gagorian: like /dump UnitPower("player", "MANA")? |
| 14:48.36 | Gagorian | if "MANA" is 0 then yar |
| 14:48.48 | mitch0 | ennuilg: this is my final try: http://ace.pastey.net/125313 |
| 14:48.53 | mitch0 | if it still breaks, I give up :) |
| 14:49.24 | ennuilg | mitch0: :-) Will give that a try... |
| 14:49.25 | Pneumatus | well, i did /dump UnitPower("player", "RAGE") on a shaman and got my mana amount returned |
| 14:49.51 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6331 Plugins/Proximity.lua: |
| 14:49.54 | Repo | Add a getClosestRangeFunction function to :Proximity. This thing will be pimped soon (tm). |
| 14:49.55 | Gagorian | :C |
| 14:49.55 | Pneumatus | same with ENERGY |
| 14:50.10 | Pneumatus | lemee switch to my rogue |
| 14:50.26 | Shadowed | I always load LibStub separately actually Arrowmaster, didn't realize CBH was doing it too until someone pointed it out :p |
| 14:50.49 | mitch0 | vhaarr: what does that getClosestRange thing do? |
| 14:50.57 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: just wake up? |
| 14:51.06 | Shadowed | that I did |
| 14:51.11 | Arrowmaster | me too |
| 14:51.27 | Gagorian | Pneumatus: Try using integers instead of the string |
| 14:51.29 | Shadowed | Gagorian: pong |
| 14:51.30 | vhaarr | mitch0: http://paste.wowace.com/1153/ |
| 14:51.43 | Gagorian | Shadowed: I answered your ticket about earthliving weapon |
| 14:51.54 | Gagorian | It's a bit strange since it should be supported |
| 14:52.23 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I still say you should just embed LibRangeCheck :P |
| 14:52.38 | vhaarr | mitch0: are you the author? |
| 14:52.42 | mitch0 | yes :) |
| 14:52.45 | Pneumatus | Gagorian: UnitPower("player", 0) on a rogue is 0 |
| 14:52.57 | Shadowed | Gagorian: I won't have access to a Shaman with Earthliving until later today, but when I searched the Shaman.lua file for Earthliving I couldn't find anything |
| 14:52.59 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I could add 2 more functions to make super-fast checking |
| 14:53.13 | mitch0 | like isWithinRange(15); isOutOfRange(30); |
| 14:53.29 | mitch0 | that'd do the "closest" range check |
| 14:53.31 | vhaarr | mitch0: dude looking at your code makes me sick :( |
| 14:53.37 | mitch0 | lolz :) |
| 14:53.40 | Gagorian | Shadowed: lines 41-62 |
| 14:53.46 | vhaarr | mitch0: but I'll give you some credit for the race-specific checkinteractiondistance ranges |
| 14:54.04 | mitch0 | vhaarr: they suck though |
| 14:54.07 | Groktar | fiskers mitch0 with a large trout |
| 14:54.08 | vhaarr | so they're wrong? |
| 14:54.13 | mitch0 | not as such |
| 14:54.23 | mitch0 | interact checks don't play well with the other checks |
| 14:54.33 | vhaarr | "other checks", what do you mean? |
| 14:54.38 | mitch0 | item and spell |
| 14:54.44 | Shadowed | aha |
| 14:54.53 | Shadowed | That's why you list it as ELW not Earthliving, nevermind then Gagorian |
| 14:54.58 | mitch0 | interact checks are fuzzy, as they're also dependent on the target model |
| 14:55.10 | mitch0 | so you get strange results sometimes... |
| 14:55.11 | vhaarr | I don't understand the problem |
| 14:55.30 | Shadowed | can close the ticket |
| 14:55.39 | mitch0 | like, checkinteract(9) returns false, yet you're in melee range in game terms |
| 14:56.08 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/diminishingreturns/. DiminishingReturns. Adirelle (Manager/Author). Approved by Ackis. |
| 14:56.25 | vhaarr | mitch0: never happened to me, we've used checkinteractdistance for ages in bw |
| 14:56.48 | sztanpet | like your on a hunter and your trying to tank one of the adds on the four horsemen |
| 14:57.00 | sztanpet | you can shoot them while standing directly on top of them |
| 14:57.01 | mitch0 | vhaarr: well, it happens with some mobs |
| 14:57.10 | vhaarr | we don't care about mobs |
| 14:57.11 | vhaarr | only players |
| 14:57.22 | mitch0 | for that, it's okayish |
| 14:57.32 | vhaarr | it has always been |
| 14:57.44 | Shadowed | Adirelle: |
| 14:57.49 | Shadowed | @DRData-1.0 |
| 14:57.50 | Shadowed | er |
| 14:57.53 | Shadowed | @project DRData-1.0 |
| 14:57.53 | mitch0 | although still pointless as you can get 5,8,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45 and some more ranges just based on items |
| 14:57.54 | Repo | Shadowed: No project found that matches 'drdata-1.0' |
| 14:57.56 | Shadowed | bahh |
| 14:58.09 | Arrowmaster | @project drdata-1-0 |
| 14:58.10 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/drdata-1-0/. DRData-1.0. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Updated: 43 days ago |
| 14:58.29 | Shadowed | Adirelle: http://www.wowace.com/addons/drdata-1-0/ can save you the trouble of finding the DR categories on everything |
| 14:58.47 | mitch0 | vhaarr: but that aside (and I accept your decision not to include librangecheck), what exactly makes you puke with my code? :) |
| 14:59.28 | Pneumatus | is there a grid mod around that will change grid's anchor position depending on layout? |
| 14:59.43 | vhaarr | mitch0: there's so much, first of all the coding style with all those () wrapped everywhere |
| 14:59.49 | vhaarr | mitch0: once those are gone I'm sure I'll find 50 other things |
| 15:00.00 | vhaarr | but as long as they're there, I won't go into detail because it makes me sick just reading it |
| 15:00.07 | mitch0 | ah, the ifs |
| 15:00.51 | Gagorian | Shadowed: Alright! If you have spare time you can always check if it's correct :) |
| 15:00.55 | Shadowed | Yea I'll double check later when I have access to PTR that its showing up Gagorian |
| 15:01.23 | mitch0 | vhaarr: but just to use it, you don't need to look at the code :) |
| 15:01.31 | vhaarr | yes I do |
| 15:01.39 | mitch0 | and besides the while and if parens, the code is pretty good imo |
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| 15:01.49 | vhaarr | your opinion doesn't interest me :P |
| 15:02.00 | mitch0 | :P |
| 15:02.24 | sztanpet | is there a vhaarr's lua code style guide somewhere we can look at? :D |
| 15:02.43 | vhaarr | nah and besides haste is even more nazi |
| 15:02.55 | vhaarr | he doesn't use () when a function takes a single string argument |
| 15:02.59 | vhaarr | for example UnitName"player" |
| 15:03.05 | nevcairiel | i totally hate that |
| 15:03.08 | vhaarr | ye same :P |
| 15:03.24 | Shadowed | also Adirelle, DRs expire closer to 17-18 seconds rather than 16 |
| 15:03.43 | Pneumatus | UnitName"player" could be a function, or could be a table lookup though couldnt it? |
| 15:03.59 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I might run the code thru a sed script once so you can decide on actual code rather than fluff... |
| 15:04.13 | Arrowmaster | Pneumatus: no its always a function |
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| 15:04.57 | ennuilg | mitch0: Preliminary tests would seem to be positive, with your patched LibBars and 1.0.4 (yesterday's) CBH... |
| 15:04.58 | vhaarr | mitch0: why would I review the library, I have the code I need in that paste |
| 15:05.06 | Gagorian | Shadowed: mmkay thanks |
| 15:05.37 | mitch0 | vhaarr: someone will want a 20yd range once :) |
| 15:05.51 | Lirad | Does anyone know a easy way to display the name of a frame I am hovering over? I am trying to attach panels to some frames and I don't know how to get their names without popping open an addon that allows anchoring and using it's config to give me the data. |
| 15:06.01 | vhaarr | Lirad: /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() |
| 15:06.11 | Pneumatus | Lirad: or download DevTools and /dtframestack |
| 15:06.18 | Wobin | or WMC |
| 15:06.25 | vhaarr | wmc > * ? |
| 15:06.38 | Lirad | Thanks all. :) |
| 15:06.56 | nevcairiel | WMC already wins by default because of its name |
| 15:07.02 | Pneumatus | wmc? |
| 15:07.21 | Wobin | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7186-WheresMyCow.html |
| 15:07.24 | nevcairiel | Where's my cow! |
| 15:08.02 | Lirad | That is an excellent name. |
| 15:08.22 | Pneumatus | not on curse :< |
| 15:08.24 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 15:08.29 | Wobin | points up |
| 15:08.57 | Wobin | Anyone who recognises the name's reference has excellent taste in literature |
| 15:09.09 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1075 Data (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:09.10 | vhaarr | where's waldo? :/ |
| 15:09.11 | Adirelle|work | Shadowed: oh, thanks a lot |
| 15:09.12 | Repo | - Added the maximum amount drained over 5 seconds for the Warlock spell Drain Mana as an actionbar text. The text will be displayed when targeting a hostile target with a non-empty mana bar. Since it's a fairly unique spell, the tooltip isn't displayed. |
| 15:09.15 | Repo | - Fixed 2p T9 Moonkin using a requirement of 4p. |
| 15:09.31 | ennuilg | Pratchett... |
| 15:09.38 | Shadowed | Adirelle: Looks like it was a good choice to toss DRData on wowace as it was mostly a random library I did a while ago :p |
| 15:09.50 | Shadowed | but a few other addons use it too |
| 15:11.05 | ennuilg | mitch0: Any thoughts on whether that patch to LibBars (or, at least, the issue you found) might have been responsible for another niggly bug I've been having, where a few people, and only intermittently, were losing bars halfway through the duration, or not seeing them appear until late? |
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| 15:14.33 | Repo | 10dr-damage: 03Gagorian * r1076 Data/Warlock.lua: - And this time implemented the mana drain text properly |
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| 15:18.27 | Gagorian | Any way to make it so that the ticket subscription system sends me an e-mail only when other people comment on the ticket, not when I do? |
| 15:18.33 | Gagorian | Seems useless to get spammed by my own comments... |
| 15:20.06 | Ackis | Gagorian: nope |
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| 15:21.44 | Gagorian | Ackis: You mean except extorting ckknight to fix it? |
| 15:22.13 | Ackis | subscriptions would probably be Kaelten |
| 15:22.37 | Ackis | and there's a whole host of issues which basically means the entire system needs to be rewritten |
| 15:24.07 | Ackis | I think wowace/CF will be getting some much needed love once the curse client is out and running 100%, don't quote me on it, I know Kaelten has his hands full with the Mac client |
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| 15:26.31 | haste | vhaarr: well, I would consider it better to work with me, than the lomp developer |
| 15:26.47 | vhaarr | haste: yes I just find your style funny :P |
| 15:26.50 | haste | vhaarr: daurn has this absurbed space habit :p |
| 15:27.01 | haste | fetches an example. |
| 15:27.23 | sztanpet | i put spaces around variables and nothing around literals |
| 15:27.25 | sztanpet | meh |
| 15:27.50 | haste | functions: pl.newrevision = tblstablesort ( collapserev ( pl.revisions , pl.revision ) , eq , true ) |
| 15:27.55 | vhaarr | oh god |
| 15:28.29 | vhaarr | haste: but well I dunno we never worked on a project together I think, so maybe, maybe not ^^ |
| 15:29.10 | vhaarr | anyway back later time for some grub |
| 15:29.28 | haste | tables: disc [ #disc + 1 ] , total [ totnexti ] = v:match ( "([^/]*)/?(.*)" ) |
| 15:29.51 | haste | vhaarr: well, I at least always follow the coding style of the person I'm writing a patch to |
| 15:29.55 | sztanpet | yea thats a bit execisve for even my taste |
| 15:30.08 | haste | hence why my own style gets butchered over time :p |
| 15:33.18 | Pneumatus | i tried to follow the coding style in HeadCount but it made me /wrists |
| 15:33.37 | haste | headcount alone make me wrists |
| 15:33.46 | haste | I _hate_ how it's split up |
| 15:33.49 | Pneumatus | me too |
| 15:33.51 | haste | it's like Java, a mess |
| 15:33.54 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 15:34.14 | Pneumatus | it works, though |
| 15:34.20 | Pneumatus | which is why i patched it |
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| 15:36.32 | Pneumatus | although there's still an outstanding patch... not having the manager available and the authors all awol is annoying :< |
| 15:37.00 | Shadowed | could be worse |
| 15:37.02 | Shadowed | go look at GearScore |
| 15:37.21 | Pneumatus | another one of kagaro's? |
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| 15:37.54 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r80 / (3 files in 2 directories): pull CBH from svn |
| 15:38.02 | Shadowed | no Mirrikat |
| 15:38.51 | Pneumatus | worst thing about headcount was one of the "author"s made a complete mess of patching it to 3.2 |
| 15:38.54 | Shadowed | var = foo * 0 and var = foo * 1 are some of the highlights |
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| 15:43.56 | ennuilg | mitch0: You still about? |
| 15:45.00 | Antiarc | Mikk: Per the comment I think I looked for UnregisterAll and didn't find it! |
| 15:49.23 | Repo | 10viewporter: 03sztanpet 07master * v1.1-1-g5584537 Viewporter.lua: [+1 commit] now able to set the sides too! /vp left 10 to have a nice black left margin |
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| 15:54.52 | asmodai | Sad to see how fast Gruul went down :( |
| 15:56.08 | Repo | 10viewporter: 03sztanpet 04v1.2 * dc8a650 /: [new tag] tagging as v1.2 |
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| 16:27.26 | rubik | is there an alternative/similar addon to RaidCooldowns? it no longer works for me as of last night.. no idea what's wrong with it but it doesn't clear the timer bars when they reach 0.0 time remaining |
| 16:27.59 | rubik | like this: http://i26.tinypic.com/atk6y1.jpg |
| 16:28.02 | vhaarr | oRA3 cooldown monitor is imbah |
| 16:28.15 | Codayus | Is oRA3 useable for raiding now? |
| 16:28.20 | rubik | ^ |
| 16:28.20 | vhaarr | yes |
| 16:28.22 | Xinhuan | whoa google acquires recaptca |
| 16:28.28 | Codayus | Nifty. |
| 16:28.44 | sztanpet | apart from your maintank window filling up with people quite quickly |
| 16:29.03 | rubik | haha.. uh oh |
| 16:29.19 | rubik | i like to see/use the MT window |
| 16:29.25 | vhaarr | there isn't any |
| 16:29.34 | rubik | ): |
| 16:29.43 | vhaarr | sztanpet: hard for us to fix that, we both have pretty stable raiding guilds with the same tanks each time |
| 16:29.52 | vhaarr | so I dunno what we should do different really |
| 16:30.36 | rubik | so you're just saying you're fine without a MT window? |
| 16:30.46 | vhaarr | does it sound like that's what I'm saying |
| 16:30.53 | ArrowmasterClass | maybe it shouldnt save them then |
| 16:31.01 | rubik | haha.. kind of, sort of |
| 16:31.03 | Codayus | vhaarr: Actually, it did. |
| 16:31.04 | sztanpet | well, if i see correctly there are two buttons near the maintanks, a shield icon and a button to delete them |
| 16:31.26 | rubik | you said there isn't a MT window and then that it doesn't matter much for you because you use the same tanks all the time |
| 16:31.33 | sztanpet | dont delete the dude from that list, just set his maintank status so he wont show up |
| 16:31.37 | vhaarr | alright, I see that |
| 16:31.41 | rubik | :P |
| 16:32.02 | vhaarr | well there's no maintank display, but oRA3 provides a sortable set of tanks that other displays can get |
| 16:32.13 | sztanpet | yes |
| 16:32.14 | vhaarr | unlike blizzards tank set, which is not sorted |
| 16:32.41 | vhaarr | there are many unit frames that support oRA3 already |
| 16:32.42 | rubik | gotcha.. i'll look through the forum thread and try it out |
| 16:32.51 | sztanpet | my problem being with still receiving people who got demoted ages ago |
| 16:33.26 | sztanpet | have a status flag for them in ora3 and only provide addons with people set to tank |
| 16:33.34 | sztanpet | or something |
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| 16:34.32 | vhaarr | rubik: in any case you can use the cooldown monitor and ignore the tank list |
| 16:35.04 | rubik | cool.. will download it and play with it, thanks. |
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| 16:37.21 | sb|work | @describe wtf |
| 16:37.22 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/wtf/. Who's tanking - frames. Simple oRA3 Maintank Target Frames, based on oUF |
| 16:37.26 | sb|work | rubik ^^ |
| 16:38.01 | rubik | nice, thx.. that'll work |
| 16:38.36 | rubik | wowace forum thread for oRA3 saying druid combat res doesn't show up and Ammo has been trying to fix it.. uh oh |
| 16:40.49 | vhaarr | it works if the druid has oRA3 |
| 16:40.52 | vhaarr | but not if he doesn't |
| 16:40.57 | vhaarr | all other spells work though |
| 16:41.02 | vhaarr | even if they don't have oRA3 |
| 16:41.10 | rubik | does PitBull3 (haven't switched to 4 yet) have MT frames? anyone know off the top of their heads? |
| 16:41.22 | vhaarr | PB4 has support for oRA3 afaik |
| 16:41.58 | rubik | understood re: other spells.. the other druid doesn't have oRA3 but maybe i can get him to install it |
| 16:42.05 | sztanpet | yes it does |
| 16:42.17 | sztanpet | both have them of course |
| 16:42.17 | vhaarr | or maybe soulstone needs oRA3 as well |
| 16:42.21 | rubik | i have a bunch of logs where we both cast it (Rebirth).. would those help at all? |
| 16:42.24 | vhaarr | on your locks, I don't remember |
| 16:42.41 | vhaarr | rubik: but we need the log from someone else in your raid when you cast it |
| 16:42.45 | vhaarr | s/but// |
| 16:42.58 | rubik | ahh |
| 16:43.11 | rubik | so my log when HE cast it should work? |
| 16:43.13 | vhaarr | yes |
| 16:43.20 | rubik | nice.. yeah, i have a bunch of those |
| 16:43.27 | rubik | from last night |
| 16:43.48 | sztanpet | hammer him with 100+ megs of logs! |
| 16:43.49 | sztanpet | :D |
| 16:43.54 | rubik | haha |
| 16:44.06 | vhaarr | :( |
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| 16:44.23 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r69 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 16:44.26 | Repo | More robust hook support (performs better if Blizz's UI gets loaded before we can hook, or if Blizz's UI loads in a peculiar manner, or simply fails to load). |
| 16:44.29 | Repo | Tweaks to the search field so that it should be free of any hidden behavior (such as accidentally keeping a search going between opening windows). |
| 16:46.02 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r70 Changelog.txt: Changelog for 0.5.3 |
| 16:46.20 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.5.3 * r71 : Tagging as v0.5.3 |
| 16:49.17 | Fisker | Zeksie |
| 16:49.22 | Zeksie | No |
| 16:49.32 | Fisker | can you make a ZOMGGTFO module for zomgbuffs? |
| 16:50.03 | Zeksie | waits for the punchline |
| 16:50.32 | Fisker | buffs keep changing either because some retard can't gtfo or because his pallypower bugs |
| 16:51.00 | Zeksie | ahhh.. a fiddler.. likes to press the pretty buttons. ;) |
| 16:51.43 | Fisker | but it's weird |
| 16:51.51 | Fisker | it's like it just scrolls through the same buffs for a few minutes |
| 16:52.03 | Fisker | you'd think he'd stop at some point |
| 16:52.18 | Zeksie | probably throttled addon messages. if you spam mousewheel, CTL will take some time to process them all |
| 16:54.31 | Fisker | gg |
| 16:54.45 | Fisker | is it fixable? :P |
| 16:56.10 | rubik | vhaarr: should i just post the druid Rebirth stuff from my combat log in the oRA3 thread or where? |
| 16:56.25 | Ackis | does that on purpose Fisker :P |
| 16:56.35 | rubik | got it all copied/pasted nicely ready to be posted somewhere |
| 16:56.48 | Zeksie | Fisker: not really. zomg has a similar issue. not really something i can go into without a serious overhaul |
| 16:57.17 | Zeksie | but the same could probably be said for any live update over multiple clients. unless you do a preview and send setup |
| 16:57.23 | vhaarr | rubik: vhaarr@gmail.com |
| 16:57.32 | Ackis | Zeksie: overhaul it then? |
| 16:57.35 | Ackis | ;) |
| 16:57.41 | rubik | vhaarr: awesome, thanks.. emailing now |
| 16:57.44 | Zeksie | it's .... big :) |
| 16:58.16 | Zeksie | it's not out of the question though. just not today ;) |
| 16:58.21 | vhaarr | rubik: can't fix now, raiding |
| 16:59.07 | rubik | oh, no rush.. just trying to be helpful with the logs if they help whenever you have time to look at it |
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| 17:07.34 | ennuilg | pokes mitch0 |
| 17:08.56 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6332 Core/Core.lua: Fix target monitoring. |
| 17:09.47 | Fisker | i agree though Ackis ! |
| 17:10.58 | Fisker | i need a mainassist interface in ora ;3 |
| 17:12.24 | Bruners | ckknight: do you fancy explaining how the external repository works? |
| 17:13.42 | Megalon | Ackis: Fisker ageed with you, so hows your suicide coming along? |
| 17:16.52 | Funkeh` | blizz gear manager saved on server <3 |
| 17:17.00 | Funkeh` | now all i need is them to save keybindings |
| 17:17.08 | Funkeh` | everything else is golden |
| 17:18.15 | Funkeh` | fucking laptop motherboard died again :/ |
| 17:18.29 | Funkeh` | wtb reliable gaming laptops |
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| 17:22.08 | Repo | c56a1f5: Move maxfilterflags to somewhere more accessible. |
| 17:22.11 | Repo | c86a0ea: Move the rep flags to the do/end block |
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| 17:29.22 | Xinhuan | vhaarr, closetgnome prints a message if i switch gear sets using Blizzard's interface ;p |
| 17:29.35 | nevcairiel | its a feature! |
| 17:29.41 | vhaarr | Xinhuan: aww poor you :P |
| 17:29.49 | Xinhuan | :( |
| 17:30.32 | [Ammo] | turn off the quips then :p |
| 17:31.12 | vhaarr | I can fix but raiding atm |
| 17:33.21 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r31 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix capt galv reset |
| 17:35.58 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r98 PT3-RaidLoot.lua: - Re-mine Ulduar and Trial of the Crusader |
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| 17:44.39 | Bruners | Xinhuan: but they do save keybindings dont they? |
| 17:45.02 | Bruners | zomg, ment Funkeh` |
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| 17:50.52 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r72 Modules/SkillWindow (3 files in 1 directory): MrTrader-side support for LSW. |
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| 17:52.55 | Funkeh` | Bruners, no afaik |
| 17:52.55 | rubik | anyone know how long the Nerubian Burrowers submerge for on Anub 10m-hard? |
| 17:53.08 | rubik | trying to look at my combat log and it's hard to tell.. ugh |
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| 18:00.39 | Fisker | my feet are freezing vhaarr |
| 18:00.45 | Fisker | can you put in a feetwarmer module? |
| 18:06.40 | Megalon | incinerates Fisker |
| 18:06.49 | Megalon | hope that's warm enough |
| 18:08.58 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6333 Core/Core.lua: Check zones on enable. |
| 18:09.44 | [SW]Dodge | Bruners: they do, a friend flamed me after changing keybingigs of his main :D |
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| 18:21.05 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r32 Battlegrounds/IsleOfConquest.lua: add horde keep and alliance keep and yell logging |
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| 18:22.04 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r33 Battleground.lua: reset timer text color as well upon reuse |
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| 18:31.11 | steev | f premonition |
| 18:32.14 | steev | our server was laggy as hell when they got the 50 attempts remaining achievement |
| 18:37.12 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha2-10-g763f738 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 18:37.15 | Repo | 763f738: Remove rep filter flags from the frame, I don't think we use them there. |
| 18:37.18 | Repo | fb46333: Update some pet db flags. |
| 18:37.21 | Repo | 1b55299: Fix mechanical squirrel box flag issue thanks to theorbtwo. |
| 18:40.09 | Repo | 10tomquest2: 03gagou * r222 / (11 files in 1 directory): remove some unneeded local and functions |
| 18:40.12 | Repo | few tweaks |
| 18:49.45 | asmodai | mmmm, okonomiyaki |
| 18:49.47 | asmodai | yum yum |
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| 19:07.44 | winkiller | I want an automatic Milling mod. NO FUN clicking the same button 100x |
| 19:07.58 | winkiller | (I know, would be near a bot...) |
| 19:08.06 | Pneumatus | Panda perhaps? |
| 19:08.26 | Superfly_ | think he meant by clicking the same button 100x panda or autodisenchant |
| 19:08.29 | winkiller | if it has a "mill everything I have" thent it woked |
| 19:08.39 | winkiller | WTF |
| 19:08.48 | winkiller | thent it woked => then it didn't work |
| 19:08.51 | Superfly_ | dont think there is one addon that could do it |
| 19:08.54 | winkiller | if you didn't get the gibberish |
| 19:08.55 | Pneumatus | G15 repeat keypress :) |
| 19:09.04 | Superfly_ | its disabled in wow i guess |
| 19:09.05 | winkiller | Pneumatus: oh you sneaky person! |
| 19:09.15 | winkiller | I could do that. but then I had to be afk |
| 19:09.30 | winkiller | because I couldnt control my urge to type and scroll in other windows |
| 19:09.48 | Pneumatus | just buy the ink/pigment :P |
| 19:10.05 | winkiller | rofl |
| 19:10.05 | Superfly_ | you can use autoit to click on the same button 100x btw :) |
| 19:10.11 | winkiller | or AHK |
| 19:10.16 | Superfly_ | yeah, or ahk |
| 19:10.17 | winkiller | yeah well, that's cheatin :< |
| 19:10.39 | winkiller | /script FFSJUSTMILLEVERYTHINGIHAVE(); |
| 19:10.40 | _rane | :'( |
| 19:10.42 | Superfly_ | but at least it works :) |
| 19:11.18 | winkiller | I could also build some Lego Mindstorms thingy that taps my mousebutton every 2sec |
| 19:12.44 | winkiller | think I exaggerated a bit |
| 19:12.49 | winkiller | it will be only 140 inks |
| 19:13.49 | _rane | that would cheating also |
| 19:14.03 | winkiller | 148 inks |
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| 19:14.13 | winkiller | at least there's "create all" |
| 19:14.19 | winkiller | or I'd go slightly mad |
| 19:14.47 | winkiller | _rane: I think blizzard only forbid 3rd party software. not hardware ;) |
| 19:14.59 | winkiller | it's also not account sharing as long as it has no AI |
| 19:15.23 | Pneumatus | lol the thought that lego minstorm pressing a button would be considered account sharing |
| 19:25.16 | winkiller | better safe than sorry ;) |
| 19:31.49 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha2-12-gb6c01b5 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 19:31.52 | Repo | b6c01b5: Fix babble references. |
| 19:31.55 | Repo | 2aa709f: Add pre-processing stuff to review. |
| 19:35.17 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03ThyrelR * r2283 Modules/Crafting/crafting.lua: - Fixed Fishing Daily loot |
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| 19:45.33 | Jibbs | in lua.. how can i determine if a variable is string |
| 19:45.40 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha2-13-g480fc91 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Remove babble class from required libs. |
| 19:52.28 | Jibbs | ok scratch that, if i have a function that returns an unknown number of values, how do i get them all? |
| 19:52.37 | Torhal | Jibbs: if type(var) == "string" then DoStuff() end |
| 19:52.41 | AKX | [foo] = baz() |
| 19:52.52 | Torhal | No |
| 19:52.54 | Jibbs | yeah Torhal i got that :) |
| 19:53.00 | AKX | then foo will be a lis-.. arr.. TABLE with numeric indices with all of the return values. |
| 19:53.01 | Torhal | [foo] = {baz()} |
| 19:53.03 | AKX | Ah. |
| 19:53.11 | AKX | Sorry. |
| 19:53.13 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 19:53.15 | AKX | My Lua is really really rusty. |
| 19:53.24 | Jibbs | but i'm using GetNumBindings and it returns X things... |
| 19:53.39 | Jibbs | how do i continue to get the args returned not knowhing how many iwill get back |
| 19:54.01 | Torhal | You do what we just said. |
| 19:54.09 | Torhal | That puts the args into a table |
| 19:54.18 | Torhal | Then you iterate the table until there are no more entries |
| 19:54.26 | Jibbs | hmm... then 01GetNumBindings isn't returning a table then |
| 19:54.28 | Jibbs | err |
| 19:54.32 | Jibbs | GetBinding |
| 19:54.36 | Jibbs | cause cthat's what i was doing |
| 19:54.56 | Torhal | AKX: Actually, what I said was wrong as well. I need sleep. |
| 19:54.58 | Torhal | Ok: |
| 19:55.13 | Torhal | local ret_vals = { GetBumBindings() } |
| 19:55.29 | Jibbs | ok let me try that |
| 19:55.59 | Fisker | i hate everything to hell |
| 19:56.09 | Torhal | Fisker: I don't see your rage face. |
| 19:56.22 | Fisker | we're doing ToTC |
| 19:56.29 | Fisker | but our team isn't good enough for hard mode |
| 19:56.31 | Fisker | so we go ulduar |
| 19:56.41 | Fisker | usually we can go take an alt or just leave for today |
| 19:57.02 | Fisker | I don't get that option so and i'm needed for tanking(offspec) |
| 19:57.16 | Jibbs | that worked Torhal thank you |
| 19:57.20 | Torhal | np |
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| 19:57.45 | Fisker | and for THE ELEVENTY BILLIONTH time some lame tank which is his mainspec takes titanguard |
| 19:58.17 | steev | uh |
| 19:58.29 | steev | oh i see, because its your offspec |
| 19:58.32 | Fisker | so gg i got no need for gear as my mainspec and i get pwnt by scrubs in offspec |
| 19:59.19 | steev | our guild, if you are requested to go as tank, you get to roll on tank gear as if it were your main spec |
| 19:59.28 | Fisker | no such luck |
| 19:59.44 | steev | oh well, there is always next time |
| 20:01.05 | Fisker | the thing that annoys me the most is that we have like 3 tanks a great tank item drops, only one tank needs |
| 20:01.21 | Fisker | then the next run, 3 same tanks, same loot, the 2 other tanks needs |
| 20:02.03 | sb|work | i can't believe they still didn't fix beasts |
| 20:02.16 | Pneumatus | we have designated dualspec players |
| 20:02.24 | Pneumatus | that get prio over offspec but not over mainspec |
| 20:03.06 | Fisker | well we basically have "core raiders" and raiders |
| 20:03.43 | Fisker | and i proposed that core raider dual-specs that are used by our raid leaders get priority over raider mainspecs |
| 20:03.48 | rubik | sb|work: fix beasts? |
| 20:04.25 | Pneumatus | beasts is bugged such that worms despawn if someone gets aggro and gets instabigged before anyone else is on the aggro table |
| 20:04.44 | rubik | ohh.. we haven't seen that one yet |
| 20:04.54 | Pneumatus | the worst thing is |
| 20:05.06 | Pneumatus | if you beat the next spawn timers, they spawn early :< |
| 20:05.20 | Pneumatus | we killed jormungars with like 30 seconds spare, and icehowl came rolling straight in |
| 20:05.29 | Fisker | anyways what really pisses me off was that they wouldn't let me join on my alt because it wasn't "full epic" |
| 20:05.42 | Fisker | sofar i've been within the top 5 dps'ers even with 5 blue slots or so |
| 20:05.54 | Fisker | (I finally was allowed to join on my alt :3) |
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| 20:06.09 | Fisker | that's the kind of ignorance you'd expect from pugs |
| 20:06.16 | Fisker | but not from the guild :o |
| 20:06.40 | sb|work | no Pneumatus |
| 20:06.45 | sb|work | disconnects on gormokk |
| 20:06.49 | sb|work | every fucking try |
| 20:06.49 | Pneumatus | oh, that as well |
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| 20:07.18 | Pneumatus | for us it's always the same people though, so i'm sure its something like gfx drivers |
| 20:07.24 | sb|work | yea its the same |
| 20:07.32 | sb|work | its no networking stuff |
| 20:07.58 | Pneumatus | definatly not, we have 2 people on the same conn and one gets DCd every time |
| 20:08.00 | Pneumatus | the other is fine |
| 20:11.08 | Repo | 10gridstatusaurasext: 03Julith * r7 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 20:11.11 | Repo | GridStatusAurasExt: |
| 20:11.14 | Repo | - added coloring by magic type |
| 20:11.17 | Repo | - added option to show only buffs/debuffs |
| 20:11.20 | Repo | - implemented enable/disable option for status |
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| 20:28.24 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r96 .pkgmeta: tweak .pkgmeta |
| 20:32.16 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 20:32.19 | Shadowed | you know now that I think about it |
| 20:32.44 | Shadowed | the GUID detection stuff in HealComm can probably do resurrection detection just as well |
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| 20:34.50 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r81 / (3 files in 2 directories): pull LibStub from svn |
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| 20:44.50 | Daemona | woah, http://kanyelicio.us/http://wowace.com |
| 20:44.58 | Daemona | that became a quick meme |
| 20:45.22 | Antiarc | Is there a mod that'll automatically indicate which quest item vendors for the most? |
| 20:46.38 | Daemona | any sell value mod and your mouseover? ;) |
| 20:47.25 | Antiarc | yeah, I'm just lazy and want it indicated for me automatically |
| 20:47.25 | Antiarc | Guess I'll write one |
| 20:47.29 | rubik | haha.. nice |
| 20:47.46 | rubik | i always just mouseover but if it could be spoonfed to me... \o/ |
| 20:47.56 | rubik | instantly spoonfed* |
| 20:48.01 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: stop, VendorBait |
| 20:48.15 | Antiarc | perfect |
| 20:48.49 | rubik | awesome |
| 20:49.22 | MrRuben5 | daemona: tekkub wrote one, vendorbait |
| 20:55.14 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r34 / (5 files in 3 directories): - better isle of conquest module |
| 20:55.17 | Repo | - ioc and av module now sync with capping users |
| 20:56.01 | MrRuben5 | @describe battleground |
| 20:56.02 | Repo | MrRuben5: http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/. Battleground. Battleground Timers in a HUD around the Blizzard BG status |
| 20:56.45 | MrRuben5 | Nice [Ammo] :) |
| 20:57.17 | steev | indeed |
| 20:57.20 | steev | i enjoy it |
| 20:57.37 | CrazyBenny | does it work for all BGs already? |
| 20:57.55 | [Ammo] | it works for AV 100% |
| 20:58.12 | [Ammo] | it seems to work 100% for AB but I need to do more of that shit BG |
| 20:58.34 | [Ammo] | it works fine for IOC |
| 20:58.49 | [Ammo] | it has the EoTs towers, but no carrier clickage |
| 20:58.52 | [Ammo] | it has no WSG module |
| 20:58.57 | [Ammo] | and no Wintergrasp |
| 20:59.15 | [Ammo] | it did get my rogue 5 levels while coding it :p |
| 20:59.35 | *** join/#wowace mitchnull (n=quassel@62.201.69.60) |
| 21:00.05 | CrazyBenny | hehe, cool |
| 21:00.50 | mitchnull | didum |
| 21:01.07 | mitchnull | I hosed my linux install... :( |
| 21:01.25 | sb|work | @describe battleground |
| 21:01.25 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/. Battleground. Battleground Timers in a HUD around the Blizzard BG status |
| 21:01.49 | steev | mitchnull: wtg! |
| 21:03.05 | [Ammo] | updated the page with a status |
| 21:03.42 | *** join/#wowace SlikerHawk (n=SlikerHa@5ad25fab.bb.sky.com) |
| 21:05.17 | [SW]Dodge | is it just my pc or is curse client 4 slow like hell? :/ |
| 21:05.42 | Hjalte | [SW]Dodge: If it's your pc, you can try the software mode. |
| 21:06.02 | Zeksie | startup takes a long while if that's what you mean. |
| 21:06.42 | Zeksie | bring back the good old days.. 50k exes. did the same job, loaded in blink of an eye. |
| 21:07.02 | *** join/#wowace Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 21:07.02 | *** mode/#wowace [+v Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:07.09 | [SW]Dodge | i mean open from task and switching between installed and get-new-addon page |
| 21:07.19 | [SW]Dodge | s/task/tray/ |
| 21:08.18 | *** join/#wowace mitchnull (n=mitch@catv3EC9453C.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 21:08.22 | mitchnull | damn |
| 21:08.38 | mitchnull | the ati driver sucks... |
| 21:08.47 | [SW]Dodge | well software mode makes it a bit faster |
| 21:09.18 | Shirik | (17:08:25) (mitchnull) the ati driver sucks... |
| 21:09.21 | Shirik | are you surprised? |
