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| 00:00.53 | Adirelle | night |
| 00:06.37 | maqr | does anyone have suggestions for curing absurdly long loading times? i think it might be related to auctioneer |
| 00:06.59 | profalbert | get rid of auctioneer? |
| 00:07.10 | maqr | well it's not always that |
| 00:07.26 | maqr | sometimes it just takes like 5 minutes for wow to load, usually after i've been disconnected and haven't restarted wow in a while |
| 00:07.53 | maqr | or sometimes it seems like if i alt tab while it's loading, it takes 10 times longer |
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| 00:09.11 | Hjalte | maqr: I am guessing that if you have a lot of data to load, can also be from addons like recount or anything that saves stuff, your loading times will be longer. If you use separate libraries you might be able to shave some of the loading time off. |
| 00:10.48 | maqr | Hjalte: that makes sense, and i'm using separate libraries in many cases already... i wonder if there's some way i could clean out the data i don't need from the WTF directory |
| 00:11.32 | Hjalte | maqr: I believe Curse Client 3 can do that. It is also going to be available in CC4. |
| 00:11.55 | maqr | hmm, i am using curse client 3 |
| 00:12.04 | profalbert | it's under tools |
| 00:12.42 | maqr | heh "Clean saved variables" sounds like it means "delete all my settings" :p |
| 00:13.38 | Hjalte | It shouldn't. |
| 00:13.48 | Hjalte | But you can always do a backup. |
| 00:13.54 | maqr | way ahead of you :) |
| 00:13.55 | Hjalte | Manually. |
| 00:14.27 | maqr | ok, lets see what it does |
| 00:15.18 | maqr | oh, that's extremely useful |
| 00:15.45 | profalbert | I found Auctionator to be powerful enough for me and killed auctioneer |
| 00:16.00 | maqr | yeah, a bunch of people have told me that |
| 00:16.08 | maqr | i'm hesitant to let it go though |
| 00:16.38 | maqr | i don't think the problem is really so much auctioneer as the way wow loads data |
| 00:16.49 | maqr | i've got a ton of ram and fast drives, it really shouldn't get hung up |
| 00:18.41 | steev | yay! |
| 00:18.49 | steev | i died like 5 minutes ago and still can't rez |
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| 00:19.26 | maqr | steev: if you're horde on alterac mountains, i'll be there in a sec... otherwise, can't help yoU :) |
| 00:20.18 | profalbert | warmup was once a nice way to determine which addon took much loading time |
| 00:20.25 | profalbert | but it doesn't work anymore :(I |
| 00:20.31 | maqr | that sounds super useful |
| 00:21.10 | profalbert | I think it's broken since Blizzard changed the LoadAddon-stuff |
| 00:23.00 | rubik | i think the servers are screwed up.. it just took me 190 seconds to log in |
| 00:23.21 | steev | fucking patch day |
| 00:23.29 | steev | fucking stab someone |
| 00:23.34 | rubik | and 180 of those seconds were spent with the loading bar at full |
| 00:23.36 | steev | just cost me 70 fucking g to repair |
| 00:24.28 | maqr | heh |
| 00:24.56 | maqr | hmm, something LibRock related broke for me, and now cowtip doesn't work |
| 00:28.31 | Tactician2 | been like that for the last hour lag average is over 140 secs no matter what you do mail turn in quest use vendor etc etc |
| 00:34.24 | maqr | oh no, cartographer broke |
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| 00:42.44 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Azethoth * r253 AlertOptions/Grid2AlertOptions.toc: 30200 |
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| 01:42.03 | Foxx111 | Hello! My wife is having problems creating her CurseID. The error is "One or more fields in your registration form is invalid." |
| 01:42.48 | Foxx111 | We've tried all kinds of things, from removing the periods in her email address (xxx.xxxxxxx.xxx@gmail.com -> xxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com) to removing all optional fields |
| 01:43.00 | Foxx111 | Does anyone know what to do about this? |
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| 01:52.12 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r93 TradeskillMenu.lua: |
| 01:52.15 | Repo | - Fix for Docking Station (which apparently doesn't like to use frame names for plugins). |
| 01:52.19 | Repo | - Reverting anchoring for now to avoid bugs with rendering. |
| 01:53.31 | quiescens | yay |
| 01:53.58 | quiescens | patch downloaded in less than a minute using blizzard's default downloader |
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| 02:05.02 | steev | woot! |
| 02:05.11 | steev | got executioner's malice |
| 02:08.45 | steev | really surprised that no one rolled against me |
| 02:08.46 | steev | since there are *2* dps warriors in the raid (and i know that neither has) |
| 02:09.45 | quiescens | kill them |
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| 02:27.18 | steev | quiescens: no way - neither of em rolled against me on a bis for str users :-P |
| 02:27.41 | steev | bis without access to heroic modes that is |
| 02:27.51 | steev | which, we *might* be able to get beasts |
| 02:28.30 | steev | and we currently have to summon people who are standing right next to us |
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| 02:33.43 | quiescens | I doubt you will really get that much of anything |
| 02:33.48 | quiescens | the servers will inevitably explode |
| 02:36.03 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka * r94 / (8 files in 3 directories): - Changelog for 0.5.7 |
| 02:36.06 | Repo | - Some preliminary work towards queue support (disabled). |
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| 02:44.55 | Wizardling | G'day, can anyone paste Curse.com's logout link, please? |
| 02:45.01 | Wizardling | I need to get around the site refusing to show login or logout links |
| 02:45.09 | Wizardling | the workaround I discovered is to logout |
| 02:45.14 | Wizardling | but of course I see no logout link because part of the site seems to think I'm logged in, the other not so much *sigh* |
| 02:45.39 | Wizardling | sorry if you already saw the above - I had a connection issue a few minutes ago |
| 02:46.44 | Arrowmaster | http://www.curse.com/logout.aspx |
| 02:48.01 | Wizardling | cheers |
| 02:48.29 | Wizardling | boy I'm tired of this bugginess... still, I'm probably just grumpy cause it's patch day |
| 02:49.06 | quiescens | so |
| 02:49.13 | quiescens | seal of command for prot paladins? |
| 02:49.20 | quiescens | could be interesting |
| 02:50.01 | Wizardling | Frankly I wish Blizzard would stop making major changes in WoW |
| 02:50.41 | Wizardling | Balance should have been the only concern after almost five years |
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| 02:56.14 | Sekkyo | Does Xinhuan show up here ever? |
| 03:04.23 | Repo | 10mrtrader: 03kolenka 04v0.5.7 * r95 : Tagging as v0.5.7 |
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| 03:27.11 | steev | anyone know how to get the pandaren monk yet? |
| 03:27.14 | steev | Sekkyo: yes he does |
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| 03:40.57 | Sekkyo | steev: thanks |
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| 04:38.30 | Groktar | at 10% i ran through the whelp cave |
| 04:38.32 | Groktar | from one side to the other |
| 04:38.42 | quiescens | grats |
| 04:38.50 | quiescens | more whelps? |
| 04:38.58 | Groktar | haha we wiped! |
| 04:39.45 | quiescens | how did the rest of the group feel about that? |
| 04:39.59 | Groktar | they think it's part of the encounter |
| 04:40.05 | Groktar | and are assigning tanks to the entraces! |
| 04:40.10 | Groktar | *entrances |
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| 04:48.47 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2324 / (8 files in 8 directories): First pass of Onyxia loot |
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| 04:54.23 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg * r51 Scorchio2.lua: 23/09/09 1.1.13 |
| 04:54.26 | Repo | - Updated Arcane Blast data for patch 3.2.2 |
| 04:56.16 | Repo | 10scorchio2: 03ennuilg 04v1.1.13 * r52 : Tagging as v1.1.13 |
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| 05:04.34 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.08.00 * r2326 : Tagging as v5.08.00 |
| 05:06.07 | rubik | oh wtf? Anub got buffed?!? is Blizz high? |
| 05:06.33 | Shefki | rubik: It's not really a buff. |
| 05:06.42 | quiescens | its a fix see |
| 05:06.51 | Shefki | It just a change to stop the stupid block stacking. |
| 05:06.58 | rubik | oh, hi Shefki... we still couldn't get Anub 10H down.. another 20+ wipes last night |
| 05:07.07 | Shefki | :( |
| 05:07.29 | rubik | got to him with 47 wipes left, then wiping madness.. h ah |
| 05:07.36 | Shefki | rubik: On 25H add tanks were stacking block which caused them to take no damage from the adds and thus entirely mitigated the stacking mechanic of the fight. |
| 05:07.39 | rubik | our dps just isn't quick enough to kill the adds |
| 05:08.00 | Shefki | Blizzard uped the base damage and lowered the stacking debuff that increaed that damage. |
| 05:08.02 | rubik | ahh.. gotcha.. i think i did read about that now that you guys mention it |
| 05:08.13 | Shefki | The base damage being upped makes it harder to entirely mitigate it with block. |
| 05:08.24 | Shefki | And thus makes it harder to eliminate the debuff entirely. |
| 05:08.38 | Shefki | Basically you can thanks some people for using a gimmic to avoid game mechanics. |
| 05:08.50 | rubik | we're prolly going to go with a DK on the adds anyway (switched the warrior to Anub because he was sucking on adds) |
| 05:09.00 | Groktar | onyxia bag @ me |
| 05:09.05 | rubik | and DK was the worst tank add to begin with anyway |
| 05:09.12 | rubik | maybe not as bad as Bear |
| 05:09.13 | Shefki | Over the course of the fight the damage shouldn't be too terribly different from the change but it will be higher right at the start of the fight, but the start of the fight isn't when it's usually any issue anyway. |
| 05:09.30 | Shefki | We use a DK on the adds. /shrug |
| 05:09.42 | rubik | the grip is nice.. haha |
| 05:09.52 | rubik | sure gets the 2nd add there quickly |
| 05:10.29 | rubik | do you have someone designated to help interrupt an add since the DK can only interrupt one? |
| 05:11.41 | Shefki | We used to use a rogue with FOK. |
| 05:12.00 | Shefki | Not sure what we will do this week. Our Priest couldn't be on so we didn't do heroic. |
| 05:12.01 | rubik | yeah.. wish we had one of those.. not that it'll matter now. hah |
| 05:12.35 | Shefki | My guess would be tank will have to do one and the rogue will have to do the other. No idea how we're gonna manage that. |
| 05:13.01 | rubik | do you guys switch most/all dps to the adds to get them down as quickly as possible (before P3) or all dps stay on Anub and only splash on adds? |
| 05:13.19 | quiescens | more fok~ |
| 05:13.22 | Shefki | switch |
| 05:13.50 | rubik | ahh, ok.. because our adds die incredibly slow but that's because we didn't tell everyone to switch |
| 05:14.05 | Shefki | DPS kills first set of adds after he comes up, then switches to him and burns him. 2nd set should come up right around the time we hit 30% which are then allowed to submerge and we finish him off. |
| 05:14.21 | rubik | so we get incredibly shitty timing with Anub getting to 31-33% and a new pack of adds JUST coming in |
| 05:14.34 | Shefki | Actually that's about right. |
| 05:15.17 | rubik | or is it the 3rd pack? hmm.. |
| 05:15.33 | Shefki | If you're getting a 3rd group your dps is low. |
| 05:15.36 | rubik | but yeah, our dps is so spread out that P2+P3 takes forever and a half |
| 05:16.28 | rubik | but it's weird because raid dps was just under 30k and i've seen WoL reports from other groups that get the kill super fast with about 31-32k raid dps |
| 05:17.13 | rubik | oh.. and do you guys have some MS-type debuff on Anub? we end up healing him too much too |
| 05:17.15 | Torhal | Wow |
| 05:17.33 | Torhal | I just logged in to default chat frames, no keybindings, and no macros. |
| 05:17.34 | Shefki | I don't remember ever discussing it so I'm not sure. |
| 05:17.43 | Torhal | I bet that's why they're doing rolling restarts tomorrow. |
| 05:17.46 | Torhal | Fuck. |
| 05:17.53 | Shefki | We don't run into a dps warrior or a Hunter usually. So if it was up it'd be from the rogue. |
| 05:18.10 | rubik | gotcha.. cool |
| 05:19.20 | Shefki | So I got my Val'anyr last week. This thing is sick. |
| 05:19.38 | rubik | oh nice.. grats |
| 05:20.11 | Shefki | So our 10 man now has both healers with a Val'anyr. lol |
| 05:20.23 | rubik | haha |
| 05:20.35 | quiescens | hax |
| 05:20.46 | Shefki | Did TOC 10 normal tonight, priest who has the other mace wasn't there. |
| 05:20.53 | Shefki | One of the tanks was still in dps gear on twins. |
| 05:21.03 | Shefki | Kept him up no problem, lol |
| 05:21.07 | rubik | haha |
| 05:21.24 | rubik | do you guys have all dps go dark for twins? |
| 05:21.39 | Shefki | We do it entirely different for 10 and 25. |
| 05:21.41 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2327 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fixed the Argent Confessor Paletress bug |
| 05:21.43 | rubik | just saw the EJ talk today about how the dark dmg buff is 5 seconds longer.. wonder how long that'll last |
| 05:22.01 | rubik | (5 seconds longer than the white... 20 vs. 15 seconds) |
| 05:22.28 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2328 Documentation/Release_Notes.txt: v5.08.01 |
| 05:22.46 | Shefki | Didn't know that. |
| 05:23.07 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.08.01 * r2329 : Tagging as v5.08.01 |
| 05:23.12 | Shefki | For 25 all the ranged are light and the melee and healers are dark. |
| 05:23.32 | Shefki | Melee stand around the outside and pickup the light so the only thing that gets to the middle is dark. |
| 05:23.37 | Shefki | err Ranged stand around... |
| 05:24.09 | Shefki | For 10 we just divide the group and half is wite and half is dark and we just kind free form it. People just stand around. |
| 05:24.56 | rubik | yeah, that's what we do (10.. since that's all we do) |
| 05:25.02 | rubik | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t69155-crusaders_coliseum_gladiatorial_combat_without_annoyance_arenas/p14/#post1395805 |
| 05:25.25 | rubik | ugh, that's an ugly url.. anyway.. that's where i saw the different length buffs |
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| 05:32.31 | asmodai | ho ho ho |
| 05:32.40 | asmodai | Enhancement shaman will need to adjust some things. |
| 05:32.43 | Shefki | rubik: Thanks for pointing that out it's very interesting. We'll probably reverse our melee and ranged. |
| 05:32.50 | asmodai | Seems we're adding flame shock in rotation. |
| 05:33.01 | quiescens | oh noes |
| 05:33.09 | asmodai | And actually ditching Glyph of Windfury for Flameshock |
| 05:35.05 | rubik | Shefki: oh, np.. we'll try to use it tomorrow too.. if it hasn't been fixed. either way, the fight isn't too tough so definitely don't NEED to take advantage of the longer buff.. heh |
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| 06:15.13 | Repo | 10arl: 03Torhal * r2507 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 06:15.17 | Repo | In AckisRecipeList.lua: Added addon:DumpMembers() to help identify things which shouldn't be members of the AddOn object. Changed/verified upvalues. |
| 06:15.19 | Repo | In ARLFrame.lua: Changed addon.RecipeListButton and addon.PlusListButton to MainPanel.recipe_buttons and MainPanel.waterfall_buttons. |
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| 06:31.25 | mitch0 | didum... the patch just had to hit the servers right after I release 1.0 :( |
| 06:31.30 | mitch0 | ~toc |
| 06:31.31 | purl | The current WoW Interface Number is: 30200 |
| 06:32.53 | Fisker | herro |
| 06:34.10 | [SW]Dodge | ahh, give realms back :( |
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| 06:35.12 | mitch0 | hm. the new patch didn't change the interface version? |
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| 06:37.51 | theoddone33 | can't tell if arcane or fire is more damage |
| 06:37.54 | [SW]Dodge | new onyxia still in her old lairß :D |
| 06:37.56 | theoddone33 | sad |
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| 06:47.56 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r49 / (3 files in 2 directories): make translations support silly french il and le |
| 06:49.10 | Torhal | mitch0: Interface version only changes on a minor number change. MAJOR.MINOR.BUGFIX/UPDATE |
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| 06:49.26 | Torhal | 30200 == 3.2.x |
| 06:54.27 | theoddone33 | really disappointed with the ony fight |
| 06:54.35 | theoddone33 | new mechanics kind of highlight how bad the original fight was |
| 06:54.50 | [Ammo] | anyone have a list of the changed cvars for sound |
| 06:54.54 | theoddone33 | that was back before anyone had threat meters and the aggro resets were a huge deal |
| 06:54.56 | [Ammo] | I need to fix fishermansfriend |
| 06:57.34 | Torhal | [Ammo]: Hrm. Volumizer still works...I haven't changed its CVar usage at all. |
| 06:58.26 | [Ammo] | SetCVar("MapWaterSounds", 0) |
| 06:58.28 | [Ammo] | that one nolonger exists |
| 06:58.32 | Torhal | Ah |
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| 06:58.47 | [Ammo] | so I'm wondering if I should remove it entirely |
| 06:58.57 | [Ammo] | or if it got changed to something else |
| 07:00.04 | Fisker | slaps [Ammo] around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:00.05 | [Ammo] | but I can't get in game to run cvarlist :) |
| 07:00.51 | Fisker | qq moar Thelyna |
| 07:00.53 | Fisker | theoddone33 |
| 07:00.57 | [SW]Dodge | I'm so happy that my realm is NOT on extended maintenance list :X |
| 07:01.06 | [Ammo] | I'm still patching |
| 07:01.27 | [SW]Dodge | i patched even befor maintenance started here :D |
| 07:01.42 | [Ammo] | I had to sleep :) |
| 07:02.18 | [SW]Dodge | got the patch from 4players and then just before i went to bed i patched :D |
| 07:02.38 | [SW]Dodge | but that wont help as the realms are still down QQ |
| 07:04.06 | [SW]Dodge | well, going to use the time to get some new music and BURN :D |
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| 07:08.27 | Elkano | hmm, ammo, battlegrounds isn't syncing to curse, yet, is it? |
| 07:08.32 | [Ammo] | nop |
| 07:08.42 | [Ammo] | it's still pretty damn alpha |
| 07:08.43 | Elkano | so no installing via CC4 ^^ |
| 07:08.46 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 07:09.06 | Elkano | makes me a sad lazy panda ;) |
| 07:09.11 | [Ammo] | too bad :) |
| 07:09.20 | quiescens | silly panda |
| 07:09.34 | Elkano | (should get another broker display first though, too many fortress blocks up there ;) |
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| 07:09.58 | Elkano | talking about pandas: gief pet! |
| 07:10.32 | quiescens | what I need is a broker thingy that can hide all the random assortments of broker icons in menu item or something and only show the very few that actually do something useful |
| 07:12.00 | Fisker | i took a dump [Ammo] |
| 07:12.57 | [SW]Dodge | 09:08 Elkano so no installing via CC4 ^^ <- i update always via cc4 :o |
| 07:13.28 | Elkano | hmm, maybe if I installed by hand it will show for updates ^^ |
| 07:14.11 | Elkano | quiescens, a good broker display will allow you to select which ones to show |
| 07:14.11 | [SW]Dodge | Elkano: tried the install with 4.0 link? http://www.wowace.com/addons/battleground/files/95-r49/battleground-r49.ccip |
| 07:14.22 | quiescens | I know, but |
| 07:14.24 | Torhal | quiescens: http://www.wowace.com/addons/yssdrop/ or http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9771-MakeRocketGoNow.html |
| 07:14.38 | quiescens | I tried those, there's still random things that don't show up in them |
| 07:14.41 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r50 / (4 files in 2 directories): drycode add libsink options |
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| 07:15.10 | quiescens | and they don't seem to have the option to force arbitrary feeds to show up |
| 07:15.22 | quiescens | presumably anything that claims to be more than a launcher |
| 07:15.30 | Elkano | dodge, only looked in the "get more addons" list ^^ |
| 07:15.40 | [SW]Dodge | :) |
| 07:15.43 | quiescens | but which I still don't think actually show anything useful |
| 07:16.19 | Elkano | well, I always was against that launcher attribute anyways ;) |
| 07:16.20 | Torhal | quiescens: http://www.wowace.com/addons/launchermenu/ |
| 07:16.43 | Torhal | quiescens: Ah, that also doesn't do that |
| 07:16.54 | quiescens | its not a huge issue |
| 07:17.07 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r51 Battleground.lua: fix one drycode mistake |
| 07:17.13 | quiescens | I'm just saying, they mostly only provide for the ones that are *purely* launchers |
| 07:17.43 | Repo | 10acronymguide: 03tactician2 * r48 enUS_Definitions.lua: more acronyms |
| 07:17.46 | quiescens | but there are a fair number that are essentially only useful as launchers, but provide more than a launcher for the sake of it |
| 07:18.20 | Torhal | quiescens: LDBloat? :) |
| 07:18.48 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r52 Battleground.lua: minor fiddlydiddly |
| 07:19.06 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:21.36 | Repo | 10fishermans-friend: 03Ammo * r96 FishermansFriend.lua: |
| 07:21.39 | Repo | temporarily fix errors by ignoring MapWaterSounds cvar until I can fix it proper |
| 07:21.49 | Elkano | Torhal, in for some HoN? |
| 07:21.57 | Elkano | EU servers still in maint :/ |
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| 07:24.45 | Torhal | Elkano: I still never bothered to ever play again, and I don't feel up to learning right now |
| 07:25.09 | Torhal | WoW ate my macros, key bindings, and chat frame setup |
| 07:25.20 | Torhal | Bleargh. |
| 07:25.31 | Elkano | ^^ |
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| 07:29.54 | orionshock | aceGUI and autocomplete are not going to play nicely will they.. |
| 07:30.19 | Repo | 10libtourist-3-0: 03Shefki * r91 LibTourist-3.0.lua: Update Onyxia's Lair for changes in 3.2.2 |
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| 07:34.23 | Shefki | orionshock: You mean the new autocomplete? |
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| 07:38.18 | marshen | was the autocomplete changed? then i should disable my autocomplete addon :/ |
| 07:40.13 | Shefki | They did make some changes to it. |
| 07:40.25 | Shefki | Supposedly there's a way to disable it back to the old style but I haven't found the option. |
| 07:41.31 | marshen | were there any problems with longer maintenance or do you expect that i can play at 11am? ^^ |
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| 07:45.47 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10-beta4 CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] update changelog |
| 07:45.53 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10-beta4 * fa5d0fd /: [new tag] tag as v1.10-beta4 |
| 07:54.09 | Shefki | Is there an addon like LoggerHead that isn't maintined in a half assed fashion. |
| 07:54.18 | Shefki | maintained* |
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| 07:57.30 | Elkano | @project LoggerHead |
| 07:57.31 | Repo | Elkano: http://www.wowace.com/addons/loggerhead/. LoggerHead. Game: WoW. rsmozang (Manager/Author). Updated: 7 days ago. Tickets: 4/14 |
| 07:57.44 | Elkano | @describe LoggerHead |
| 07:57.45 | Repo | Elkano: http://www.wowace.com/addons/loggerhead/. LoggerHead. Automatically turns on the combat log for selected instances |
| 07:57.58 | Shefki | Elkano: It gets updated, it's just got ridiculous stupid bugs in the listing of instances. |
| 07:58.07 | Shefki | It's showing Mt Hygal as a 5 man dungeon. |
| 07:58.17 | Elkano | I just didn't know it ^^ |
| 07:58.32 | Elkano | should just use tourist then ;) |
| 07:58.40 | Shefki | That's the stupid thing. |
| 07:58.40 | Arrowmaster | it does |
| 07:58.43 | Shefki | IT USES TOURST |
| 07:58.45 | Shefki | TOURIST* |
| 07:58.59 | Elkano | mkay |
| 07:59.20 | Shefki | Sorry. I'm just grouchy looking at this code and trying to figure out how to fix the logic that's horribly broken. |
| 07:59.23 | Repo | 10broker_control: 03Morgalm * r2 / (4 files in 1 directory): Broker_Control |
| 07:59.26 | Repo | -initial commit |
| 07:59.53 | Shefki | I figured "Hey I'll fix LibTourist to know about Onyxia's Lair being level 80 and having 10/25 sizes and it'll fix Loggerhead" |
| 08:00.04 | Shefki | Only to stumble into a mine field of an addon. |
| 08:00.34 | Arrowmaster | tourist is kinda bad too, not on code but data layout |
| 08:00.43 | Adirelle|work | Shefki: I'm using my own auto combat log controller, but it basically auto enables itself when entering any raid instance |
| 08:01.35 | Arrowmaster | @describe broker_control |
| 08:01.36 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_control/. Broker_Control. Broker_Control allows you to easily switch between raid difficulties, looting modes, and loot thrshold without using the curs... |
| 08:02.07 | Arrowmaster | needs a better name |
| 08:03.16 | Shefki | And you know some of it is Blizzard's fault for this half assed dungeon/raid difficulty system. |
| 08:05.17 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Yeah I know, but I think most of the issue with LibTourist is it just keeps getting these weird changes bolted on. |
| 08:05.31 | Shefki | Blizzard goes "Hey let's have heroic difficulties." |
| 08:05.33 | Arrowmaster | stop looking at me like that |
| 08:05.39 | Arrowmaster | its not my fault |
| 08:05.48 | Shefki | Then they go "Hey let's have multiple raid sizes" |
| 08:05.58 | Shefki | THen they go "OMG Let's have both at the same time. weeeeeeee" |
| 08:08.02 | theoddone33 | game designers like the word "more" |
| 08:08.18 | theoddone33 | instead of the word "better" |
| 08:08.24 | theoddone33 | blizz does pretty well in general though |
| 08:08.40 | Shefki | theoddone33: In general they do but really the whole instance situation doesn't make a lot of sense. |
| 08:09.05 | Shefki | You have 25 and 40 man raids still in the game. There's a raid setting for 10, 10 heroic, 25 and 25 heroic. |
| 08:09.06 | theoddone33 | they got carried away with how well hard modes worked out in ulduar, then designed a terrible instance and took it to extremes |
| 08:09.28 | Shefki | So wtf is the raid difficulty setting supposed to be for 25 and 40 man raids? |
| 08:09.40 | Shefki | The answer of course is it doesn't matter the instance doesn't care. |
| 08:09.55 | Shefki | Though I believe it whines if you try to set it to heroic. |
| 08:10.17 | Shefki | The whole thing is just horribly sloppy and very unBlizzard like. |
| 08:10.19 | theoddone33 | well scaled content is nice |
| 08:10.22 | theoddone33 | but they did it wrong |
| 08:10.28 | theoddone33 | exactly one instance after doing it right |
| 08:10.48 | theoddone33 | same fight with almost no changes in mechanics is boring |
| 08:11.03 | theoddone33 | some of the stuff in uld is great though |
| 08:11.06 | Shefki | Well I think TOC is just a pinanata to keep us busy while they work on Icecrown. |
| 08:11.11 | theoddone33 | yeah it's true |
| 08:11.18 | theoddone33 | but I'm bored of it already |
| 08:11.20 | Shefki | I think they realized that large gaps in content that they had in TBC was bad. |
| 08:11.29 | theoddone33 | don't really feel like progression means anything, unlike uld |
| 08:11.35 | Shefki | And instead of making quality content to fill the void they made some shitty instance. |
| 08:11.43 | Repo | 10broker_control: 03Morgalm 04v1.0 * r3 : Tagging as v1.0 |
| 08:11.54 | theoddone33 | yeah I'm sure they'll put their best foot forward with citadel |
| 08:11.59 | Shefki | Frankly I think they rounded up some interns and said here "Make a 5, 10 and 25 man instance over the summer." |
| 08:12.17 | theoddone33 | like I was saying before the ony fight highlights how far they've come in terms of pve encounters |
| 08:12.49 | theoddone33 | it would have cool to wipe on it at least once though |
| 08:12.52 | Shefki | But I wasn't really grumbling about the instance design. |
| 08:12.59 | Shefki | I was grumbling about how they presented it to the users. |
| 08:13.01 | theoddone33 | no I know |
| 08:13.12 | theoddone33 | you don't like the needless complexity that stems from the poor instance design |
| 08:13.52 | Shefki | Frankly I think a better design would have been to have normal and heroic modes and then different entrances for different raid sizes. |
| 08:14.04 | Shefki | They did this with the dungeon and raid entrances in TOC. |
| 08:14.18 | Shefki | But it's a much more elegant solution from the experience side. |
| 08:14.30 | Shefki | normal and heroic as a choice is complex enough. |
| 08:14.35 | theoddone33 | can't think of anything that had different sized raids that was the same instance |
| 08:14.40 | theoddone33 | so it'd be a little new |
| 08:14.51 | Shefki | Until Wrath they didn't have that. |
| 08:14.57 | theoddone33 | ToC had a lot of good design thoughu |
| 08:15.02 | theoddone33 | TbC |
| 08:15.09 | theoddone33 | ugh |
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| 08:15.24 | theoddone33 | in the year 2011, wow will officially run out of acronyms and all in game communication will be impossible |
| 08:15.34 | Shefki | When they did Naxx and what not they should have split half the entrances and made half 10 and half 25. |
| 08:15.41 | Shefki | Used a different color for the swirl or watever. |
| 08:15.50 | theoddone33 | yeah it's a better idea |
| 08:15.56 | theoddone33 | no waiting for the raid leader to change it |
| 08:16.02 | theoddone33 | no getting saved to the wrong thing accidentally |
| 08:16.24 | Elkano | theoddone33, reminds me to the moment I saw the first person looking for a kora raid ^^ I just wondered why they decided to visit a 70 instance ;) |
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| 08:16.52 | theoddone33 | kora? |
| 08:16.57 | theoddone33 | I'm confused too |
| 08:17.07 | yoshimo | are there soundfiles for lady onxias yells? |
| 08:17.09 | Shefki | In other news. |
| 08:17.17 | Shefki | Some random person on our realm got flagged as a GM. |
| 08:17.22 | Elkano | the new boss in archavon's lair |
| 08:17.27 | Shefki | And when they whisper people it pops up the GM chat box and all |
| 08:17.27 | theoddone33 | oh |
| 08:17.34 | theoddone33 | hah I didn't even know its name |
| 08:17.39 | Shefki | They are horde and can talk to people on the alliance side. |
| 08:17.43 | Elkano | me neither at that point ^^ |
| 08:18.21 | Shefki | Some good the Blizz icon and the whole seperate chat box does when they still can allow a players account to be flagged that way. |
| 08:18.48 | Shefki | Imagine if a gold selling company got ahold of that. |
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| 08:19.16 | theoddone33 | marin fury's for everyone! |
| 08:19.19 | theoddone33 | martin |
| 08:19.19 | Shefki | I know they tell people that Blizz will never ask for the password. |
| 08:19.32 | Shefki | But I can promise you a lot of stupid people would give a GM that asked their password. |
| 08:20.02 | Shefki | Especially if they were appropriately flagged that way and the UI showed that they expected for talking with a GM. |
| 08:20.24 | Shefki | Or hell, imagine one of those idiots with the "You have won, go to this site." crap. |
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| 08:20.56 | Shefki | Anyway I've had a ticket open on this for a couple hours now. |
| 08:21.13 | Shefki | They'll probably respond sometime tomorrow when the damage could have been long since done. |
| 08:21.46 | Elkano | HoN anyone? |
| 08:21.54 | Shefki | ? |
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| 08:35.13 | orionshock | sylvanaar: ping |
| 08:35.17 | Fisker | yeah Shefki |
| 08:35.55 | Fisker | kinda silly when you read on the forums "A Blizzard employee will always have Blizzard icon next to his name etc." |
| 08:35.57 | Fisker | Which is true |
| 08:36.04 | Fisker | But it kinda breeds stupidity |
| 08:36.30 | Fisker | Loosely translated for it means "If there's a blizzard icon just disregard common sense" |
| 08:36.53 | Fisker | which isn't nice since sometimes they by mistake let users keep a GM flag |
| 08:38.23 | Fisker | better yet why haven't Blizzard updated their tools so they don't need to flag users as GM's? :P |
| 08:38.58 | Fisker | or atleast if you're going to have GM rights on a person have a second kind of GM which doesn't show the icon |
| 08:39.26 | Arrowmaster | or you know make it so the flag gets cleared on logout |
| 08:39.37 | Shefki | Arrowmaster: Exactly. |
| 08:39.39 | Shefki | Or... |
| 08:39.50 | Shefki | Even if the flag stays set. If the user isn't logged in from a Blizzard site. |
| 08:39.52 | Shefki | Clear the flag. |
| 08:40.08 | Shefki | Or hell do both. |
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| 08:43.04 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 08:43.52 | Fisker | also funny |
| 08:44.12 | Repo | 10zzml: 03Turaka * r39 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+] Little changes |
| 08:44.21 | Fisker | Since i told Blizzard about an exploit with the authenticator the GM's have gone from "ZOMG Authenticator" to "Authenticator is still the best solution you have to secure your account" |
| 08:44.23 | Fisker | :P |
| 08:44.24 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_control/. Broker_Control. Morgalm (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 08:44.29 | Repo | 10zzml: 03Turaka 04v4.6.2 * r40 : Tagging as v4.6.2 |
| 08:46.11 | Repo | 10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock * r29 / (4 files in 1 directory): |
| 08:46.14 | Repo | new Alt main method with Ace3Config instead of hand made interface |
| 08:46.32 | profalbert | @describe Broker_Control |
| 08:46.33 | Repo | profalbert: http://www.wowace.com/addons/broker_control/. Broker_Control. Raid target control and instance shortcuts for Broker |
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| 08:49.42 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2331 / (3 files in 3 directories): - Small cleanup |
| 08:50.05 | Repo | 10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock * r30 / (2 files in 1 directory): update toc, get rid of old files |
| 08:50.36 | Repo | 10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock * r31 tekKonfig/: update toc, get rid of old files |
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| 08:53.09 | Fisker | 7 minutes until the status alert updates |
| 08:53.11 | Fisker | btw mitch0 |
| 08:53.15 | Fisker | HOWS MAINTANENCE? |
| 08:54.45 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy * r17 release-notes.txt: Not needed anymore |
| 09:02.32 | Mec | can you actually resize an lua table smaller |
| 09:03.00 | mitch0 | fisker: I'm at work, so I don't care much about it :) |
| 09:05.37 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: giev realmz |
| 09:06.43 | vhaarr | Mec: yeah just remove entries from it |
| 09:07.09 | Mec | this gems book says it doesnt actually resize when you do that |
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| 09:07.32 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt |
| 09:07.32 | vhaarr | I don't see why you would care really |
| 09:07.34 | Arrowmaster | tables only resize when added to afaik |
| 09:08.19 | Zhinjio | Quick Completely Off Topic note: If any of you are interested in a for-fun fantasy hockey league, please PM me with an email address to invite you with. Active Yahoo ID required. Autodraft kicks in on the 28th, so time is running out! Now back to your regularly scheduled channel.... |
| 09:08.42 | Mec | i've seen several addons use table recycling functions with the assumption you can shrink them |
| 09:08.53 | vhaarr | nah, you're wrong |
| 09:08.56 | Torhal | Zhinjio: Why did that seem like one of those half-screen mid-show commercials? :) |
| 09:09.01 | vhaarr | what those functions do is make sure the memory is freed |
| 09:09.05 | vhaarr | not shrink the table |
| 09:09.25 | Zhinjio | Torhal: I'm secretly disguising my latest get-rich-quick scheme inside a fantasy hockey league webpage. You'll find out if you sign up! |
| 09:09.37 | Arrowmaster | you can force it to shrink by making the table empty then setting a key and removing it |
| 09:09.49 | Torhal | Zhinjio: I have absolutely no interest in sports of any kind. |
| 09:10.22 | Zhinjio | yes, but you want to get rich quick! |
| 09:10.23 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 09:10.28 | Torhal | Hah |
| 09:11.29 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Celellach * r2332 Modules/ (2 files in 2 directories): - Updated 3 pet changes in 3.2.2 |
| 09:11.34 | Mec | either im tired or your 2 last sentences contradict arrowmaster |
| 09:11.38 | Camci | anyone here pre ordered aion? |
| 09:11.56 | Repo | 10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock * r32 localization.lua: locale bump |
| 09:12.04 | Arrowmaster | they dont contradict |
| 09:12.20 | Repo | 10rostertooltip: 03OrionShock 04v1.2 beta * r33 : Tagging as v1.2 beta. New options & locale updates |
| 09:12.23 | vhaarr | you can't remove single entries, but you can clear a table completely |
| 09:12.56 | vhaarr | Mec: I don't see why you care about this, I vager that if you are concerned about this in an addon, you are doing something wrong anyway and should rethink your whole approach |
| 09:13.15 | vhaarr | wager* |
| 09:13.41 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy * r18 tribloot.lua: Do not link Ashen Sack of Gems |
| 09:13.41 | Mec | just trying to figure out if it's better to reuse tables or make new ones every time |
| 09:13.44 | Repo | Do not link Enlarged Onyxia Hide Backpack |
| 09:13.47 | Repo | Do not link Head of Onyxia |
| 09:14.05 | vhaarr | Mec: if you're in a onupdate, reuse |
| 09:14.10 | orionshock | Mec: depends on what your doing |
| 09:14.11 | vhaarr | if not, doesn't matter |
| 09:14.31 | Mec | ya its in onupdate, which always makes me nervous about performance |
| 09:14.36 | Torhal | Mec: Depends on what you're doing. If you're doing a bunch of table operations, you don't want to make new tables because the garbage collection mechanism may not run before your addon bloats to 100 megs |
| 09:14.39 | Shefki | Or if you're doing something from a very common event. UNIT_AURA for example. |
| 09:14.45 | vhaarr | Mec: then simply wipe(tbl) and reuse |
| 09:14.50 | Mec | ok, thanks |
| 09:15.31 | Shefki | Though I believe (but don't remember off the top of my head) that wipe is not necessarily the most efficient for small tables. |
| 09:15.46 | vhaarr | Shefki is right, but who cares |
| 09:15.49 | Mec | probably will just loop nils |
| 09:15.54 | orionshock | vhaarr: did we ever find out if wipe() is better than clearing a table by hand with pairs() ? |
| 09:15.56 | vhaarr | better use wipe() |
| 09:16.05 | vhaarr | because it can get optimized in the future and you win |
| 09:16.17 | vhaarr | orionshock: I don't care |
| 09:16.31 | Shirik | tbh |
| 09:16.34 | Shirik | neither answer is correct |
| 09:16.34 | orionshock | there is that, wipe() is nice for sanity Mec |
| 09:16.42 | Shefki | orionshock: It depends upon the size of the table. If you expect the table to have a larger number of keys wipe is the better option. If you aren't sure I'd just use wipe anyway. It's not that huge of a difference anyway. |
| 09:16.54 | Shirik | It has been proven that using any kind of cleaning mechanism is slower than allowing the Lua GC to handle it |
| 09:17.08 | Torhal | Slower is relative. |
| 09:17.10 | Shirik | The only time you should recycle a table is if you /don't/ have to clean it |
| 09:17.12 | Shirik | No it's not |
| 09:17.43 | Torhal | Usually, with an AddOn, you won't notice the difference between a wipe() and throwing it at the GC. So in that case, I'd say it is. |
| 09:17.49 | Mec | now is it better to create a closure for upvalues or access a table |
| 09:17.53 | Shefki | Yeah the aura module in PB4 was carefully designed to not require cleaning of any sort. |
| 09:17.57 | Shirik | Are you intentionally being dense Torhal? |
| 09:18.03 | vhaarr | makes perfect sense, the GC just has to check the refcount and nuke the object from memory, and not interact with the interpreter much |
| 09:18.06 | Shefki | We actually just use the same table over and over again. |
| 09:18.11 | Shirik | They're talking about doing something that's harder in an effort to optimize something that is faster if you don't do this |
| 09:18.23 | Shirik | And it is ALWAYS faster |
| 09:18.40 | Shirik | whether or not it's noticably faster is irrelevant considering it's also easier to code |
| 09:18.57 | Shefki | Unless you really know what you're doing it's almost always better not to try and optomize your code because what's faster in Lua is very often counter-intuitive. |
| 09:19.15 | Shirik | I know exactly what I'm talking about |
| 09:19.29 | Shefki | That wasn't directed at you Shirik, just a general statement. |
| 09:19.32 | Shirik | oh |
| 09:19.46 | Mec | how do you reuse a table without having to clean it |
| 09:19.52 | Shirik | sorry I'm kinda pissed off at a bunch of other people right now |
| 09:19.54 | Arrowmaster | but whats faster in Lua is intuitive to me! |
| 09:19.55 | Mec | i guess if you just overwite it all |
| 09:19.56 | Torhal | Mec: Use the same values every time |
| 09:19.58 | Shirik | so it's kinda overflowing here |
| 09:20.16 | Mec | thats not an option for me on this one |
| 09:20.16 | Shirik | Mec: There are a lot of tables I use in Auctioneer which are just overwritten with the same keys every time |
| 09:20.18 | Torhal | Shirik: I wasn't going to comment :) |
| 09:20.19 | Shefki | Overwrite every value with new data. |
| 09:20.49 | Shefki | If you're going to fill it anyway it's pointless to wipe it just so you can fill it again. |
| 09:22.44 | Shefki | Actually the aura module has one massive table that's just a list of other tables. We reuse those tables over and over again and if we have more than we need in the big master table we shift them to a pool table for reuse. The individual tables never get cleared. They're just put in the pool and then brought back out and filled over. |
| 09:25.02 | orionshock | Mec: in a simple answer, if it's an indexed table that your refilling with the same number of sequential keys, better to overwrite it, same if it's a dictionary table where the same keys are being given new values. otherwise you prolly want to wipe it with pairs() or wipe() |
| 09:25.19 | Mec | ok |
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| 09:43.14 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy * r19 / (2 files in 1 directory): Update version number |
| 09:43.17 | Repo | Changed the wording on an error message |
| 09:43.39 | Repo | 10tributeloot: 03Euthy 04v1.1.3 * r20 : Tagging as v1.1.3 |
| 09:45.03 | Fisker | skada broken in 3.2.2? |
| 09:45.23 | Zeksie | let you know in a min... what's with the map issues.. |
| 09:45.38 | Fisker | vhaarr |
| 09:45.40 | Fisker | need onyxia logs? |
| 09:45.56 | Fisker | imma coming! |
| 09:46.04 | vhaarr | gief! |
| 09:46.20 | sb|work | Fisker: authenticator exploit? |
| 09:46.30 | sb|work | and what was that blizz patch download page again? |
| 09:47.53 | Gnarfoz | sb|work: http://a.wirebrain.de/wow/ |
| 09:47.53 | asmodai | When's the 5 year anniversary happening? |
| 09:48.02 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: 2009-11-24? |
| 09:48.06 | Gnarfoz | I'd venture |
| 09:48.19 | asmodai | Ah November, thought we got the bear during October last year, but feck if I remember |
| 09:48.42 | Gnarfoz | afaik, 2005-11-24 was US release |
| 09:48.50 | Gnarfoz | but then, I'm EU ^^ |
| 09:49.05 | profalbert | I got the bear 11-23-2008 |
| 09:49.17 | asmodai | I see comments @wowhead for the bear at 11-27, so yea, must be November |
| 09:49.37 | asmodai | got my achievement on the 22nd of November it seems |
| 09:50.22 | Zeksie | mines 11/23/08 in EU |
| 09:51.32 | asmodai | So yeah, got to be around that time frame. |
| 09:51.52 | sb|work | ty Gnarfoz |
| 09:53.37 | Fisker | nothing i have with any kind of combat works |
| 09:53.41 | Fisker | MSBT, Skada, etc. |
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| 09:53.54 | asmodai | stealth changes again? |
| 09:54.06 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: tried relogging? |
| 09:54.11 | sb|work | Fisker: enable outdated addons :p |
| 09:54.19 | Fisker | the window is there fucktards |
| 09:54.20 | Gnarfoz | that, too |
| 09:54.22 | Fisker | so it's loaded |
| 09:54.25 | sb|work | and i've seen that combatlog issue before |
| 09:54.27 | Fisker | and yes i did do that |
| 09:54.31 | sb|work | relogging helped |
| 09:54.31 | Gnarfoz | you know the bug where you don't get any combat events? |
| 09:54.34 | Gnarfoz | try relogging |
| 09:54.39 | sb|work | yea, what Gnarfoz said |
| 09:54.47 | Fisker | yeah |
| 09:54.50 | Gnarfoz | doesn't happen often, but it's hella confusing |
| 09:54.52 | profalbert | I had this issue a few days ago. It only went away after restarting wow |
| 09:55.07 | Fisker | 16kb transcriptor log = something wrong :P |
| 09:55.37 | vhaarr | you forgot to enable CLEU logging? :P |
| 09:55.49 | Fisker | no? |
| 09:55.51 | Gnarfoz | no, his client has the bug where you don't get combat events, quite likely |
| 09:55.53 | vhaarr | ah |
| 09:56.20 | Gnarfoz | wonder how that happens |
| 09:57.19 | Fisker | we have no ranged for onyxia lol |
| 09:57.22 | Fisker | and they fixed meleeing |
| 09:57.31 | Fisker | btw sb|work |
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| 09:58.18 | asmodai | as someone said: huge hitbox is huge |
| 09:58.24 | Repo | 10libperiodictable-3-1: 03Azethoth * r223 / (9 files in 9 directories): |
| 09:58.27 | Repo | -- Full Onyxia mining run. Needs repeat, I do not think all Ony items are in wowhead yet. |
| 09:58.50 | Fisker | nope |
| 10:00.14 | asmodai | Pneumatus^: Awake? |
| 10:00.19 | Fisker | AH STUPID SHIT |
| 10:00.22 | asmodai | :| |
| 10:00.35 | Fisker | i forgot to reenable transcriptor |
| 10:00.47 | asmodai | pats Fisker |
| 10:00.54 | asmodai | pebkac eh? |
| 10:02.14 | Fisker | no |
| 10:02.15 | Mec | it resets in an hour ;p |
| 10:02.20 | Fisker | the other issue was still real |
| 10:04.29 | Zarnivoop | Fisker: was there some problem with Skada in 3.2.2? |
| 10:04.32 | Repo | 10bug-grabber: 03mikk * r141 !BugGrabber.toc: Overdue for a TOC bump. |
| 10:04.45 | asmodai | Mikk: Thank you! :P |
| 10:04.50 | Repo | 10bugsack: 03mikk * r172 BugSack.toc: Overdue for a TOC bump. |
| 10:04.54 | Fisker | no Zarnivoop |
| 10:04.57 | Fisker | my client was bugged |
| 10:05.06 | Mikk | asmodai: yeah well lets see if i get chewed out eh :P |
| 10:05.11 | asmodai | Mikk: Why? |
| 10:05.17 | Mikk | Cause it's not my project? =P |
| 10:05.25 | asmodai | hahaha |
| 10:05.28 | asmodai | I don't care. |
| 10:05.33 | asmodai | I like TOC updates. |
| 10:05.33 | orionshock | if you taged it maybe |
| 10:06.11 | Mikk | should |
| 10:06.18 | asmodai | \o/ |
| 10:06.20 | Mikk | I mean it's something we all depend on :< |
| 10:06.24 | asmodai | I'll defend you! |
| 10:06.27 | vhaarr | Mikk: go ahead |
| 10:06.32 | Mikk | o/ |
| 10:06.40 | Zeksie | added the locals dump to bugsack yet? i hacked in my own with some recolouring when last patch hit ;) |
| 10:06.50 | asmodai | Zeksie: That sounds sweet |
| 10:06.56 | vhaarr | Mikk: it's in the queue for a small rewrite after we're "done" with BigWigs and Violation, fwiw |
| 10:07.18 | vhaarr | mostly to get rid of dewdrop |
| 10:07.20 | asmodai | Done? With BigWigs? Can it be? ;) |
| 10:07.31 | vhaarr | read it again |
| 10:07.47 | asmodai | :P |
| 10:08.46 | Repo | 10bug-grabber: 03mikk 043.0-30200 * r142 : Tagging as 3.0-30200 |
| 10:09.16 | Repo | 10bugsack: 03mikk 043.0-30200 * r173 : Tagging as 3.0-30200 |
| 10:09.47 | sb|work | Zeksie: then share it! :p |
| 10:09.56 | Mikk | locals... dump? |
| 10:10.05 | sb|work | dump, yep |
| 10:10.17 | Mikk | did i miss us getting access to debuglib? oO |
| 10:11.03 | vhaarr | Zeksie: explain |
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| 10:11.46 | Fisker | fucking retards |
| 10:11.49 | Zeksie | as well as debugstack() there's now debuglocals() |
| 10:11.59 | Zeksie | same arg. gives locals at that depth |
| 10:12.20 | asmodai | vhaarr: Just joking man. All the effort is much appreciated. |
| 10:12.22 | asmodai | :) |
| 10:12.24 | Mikk | equivalent to iterating over locals using debuglib i'm guessing |
| 10:12.43 | Mikk | cool, cool |
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| 10:12.54 | yoshimo | vhaarr, the only changes for onyxia should be new spell ids in the module, shouldnt they? |
| 10:13.09 | vhaarr | yoshimo: probably, I can't say otoh |
| 10:13.20 | Zeksie | yeh, then i just added some colouring so they look same as the /print output from ace2 |
| 10:13.37 | vhaarr | Zeksie: so basically with the bug text I can get a list of locals with their values? |
| 10:13.45 | Zeksie | yes |
| 10:13.50 | Zeksie | pure text block |
| 10:13.56 | vhaarr | show me your code |
| 10:14.06 | zire | anyone around who can answer some questions about AceDB for me? |
| 10:14.06 | Zeksie | will pastey in a bit. doing Ony atm |
| 10:14.11 | vhaarr | no rush |
| 10:14.16 | vhaarr | ~asktoask |
| 10:14.17 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 10:14.33 | zire | mmkay |
| 10:15.22 | orionshock | zire: did u read http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ace-db-3-0-tutorial/ ? |
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| 10:15.57 | zire | yup, its not that kind of question |
| 10:16.01 | zire | sry im formulating, hold up |
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| 10:17.42 | zire | so im thinking about building a little addon that snapshots config from other mods. long story short, is there any danger in pointing 2 different acedb objects at the same persisted config |
| 10:19.01 | Gnarfoz | reflux? |
| 10:19.12 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/125618 |
| 10:19.16 | orionshock | zire: not sure what exactly your trying to do |
| 10:19.23 | orionshock | try explaining more |
| 10:20.46 | vhaarr | zire: yes don't do that |
| 10:21.01 | orionshock | jnwhiteh: lol BackupMacros & RestoreMacros got removed? am i reading that diff correctly? |
| 10:21.08 | vhaarr | acedb puts a metatable on the table, so it wouldn't work |
| 10:21.10 | jnwhiteh | you most certainly are. |
| 10:21.12 | zire | eh... so this all came from my frustration that Grid profiles appeared to all share the same pool of Statuses. in that situation, its really hard to safely come up with a grid config that differs from the rest |
| 10:21.28 | zire | yeah thats kinda what i thought |
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| 10:21.43 | vhaarr | zire: that's a bug, the person who wrote that grid module fucked up |
| 10:22.00 | vhaarr | or he did it on purpose for some other reason, in any case take it up with them |
| 10:22.01 | yoshimo | - "VOICE_TALKER_START_PARTY", is this used by the internal voicechat? |
| 10:22.11 | jnwhiteh | yoshimo: no, it was an old deprecated event, imo |
| 10:22.17 | jnwhiteh | there were a bunch of them |
| 10:22.27 | Fisker | durr |
| 10:22.28 | Fisker | hurr |
| 10:22.31 | Fisker | derp derp derp |
| 10:22.40 | Fisker | that deep breath we should stand in that right? |
| 10:22.50 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 10:22.58 | zire | lol at 'take it up with the' |
| 10:23.01 | zire | them* |
| 10:23.32 | yoshimo | fisker, have a look at the achievements ;) "she deep breaths more" |
| 10:24.01 | orionshock | lol SaveGuildRoster got removed too |
| 10:24.14 | zire | no need to get defensive, im not aiming any work your way. =) just, from a developers perspective, it looked at first like the quickest/best way for me to never care about that problem again would be to wrap it in |
| 10:24.23 | vhaarr | who was defensive |
| 10:24.38 | vhaarr | I was pointing you at your next step |
| 10:24.38 | zire | a small external thing that let me swap entire config versions in and out |
| 10:24.54 | zire | lol sorry man, just poking fun |
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| 10:25.11 | orionshock | yay, strlenutf8 :) |
| 10:25.19 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.34 | jnwhiteh | they should provide strsubutf8 |
| 10:25.36 | jnwhiteh | its one of the more imporeant ones =/ |
| 10:25.49 | jnwhiteh | i mean i've written one |
| 10:25.51 | jnwhiteh | but still =) |
| 10:26.51 | zire | metatables are still kind of a black magic to me (the details at least), but is there a way i could store copies of whatever acedb would hand down and write to file? |
| 10:28.48 | zire | all right, ill lurk in case something turns up. and thank you for pointing me at the source of complexity |
| 10:28.50 | zire | =) |
| 10:30.45 | orionshock | zire: do what i did, learn to live with less, and not use grid :) |
| 10:31.45 | Gnarfoz | never! |
| 10:31.57 | zire | lol yeah ive thought about that. seems like all the alternatives chafe somewhere |
| 10:32.23 | zire | is grid2 dev still active? |
| 10:32.31 | Gnarfoz | grid2 was a stupid idea. :p |
| 10:32.37 | Gnarfoz | grid is fine <3 |
| 10:32.40 | orionshock | i use aguf's raid frames and tbh, i've gained about 15fps from droping grid & modules |
| 10:32.46 | zire | gnarf: what raidframes do you use instead? |
| 10:33.06 | jnwhiteh | oUF_FreeBGrid |
| 10:33.06 | zire | oop, that was for orion |
| 10:33.06 | jnwhiteh | <3 |
| 10:33.06 | zire | and late |
| 10:33.10 | zire | hmm ill check them out |
| 10:33.47 | _rane | aguf? does it show when players are out of range? |
| 10:33.50 | Gnarfoz | oUF bleh. when I want to code, I'll write an addon. :P |
| 10:33.57 | orionshock | iirc the problem with grid, is that it relies on the black magic that is AceOO2 |
| 10:34.06 | jnwhiteh | *shudder* |
| 10:34.20 | orionshock | ^^ lol |
| 10:34.22 | zire | yeah that was the other question i had |
| 10:34.37 | orionshock | what using aceOO2 ? the answer is no |
| 10:34.40 | zire | whats the difference (in persisted config) between ace2 and 3 |
| 10:34.45 | zire | i bet the answer is complex |
| 10:35.05 | orionshock | zire: wtf does (in persisted config) mean? |
| 10:36.26 | mitch0 | I think he means AceDB |
| 10:36.27 | zire | urgh, structurally. like, the description of the data that people are storing. did it change in the transition to ace3 |
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| 10:36.31 | zire | yeah |
| 10:36.33 | Fisker | deep breath is fucking easy now yoshimo |
| 10:36.40 | Fisker | back in the day it was way bigger |
| 10:36.49 | mitch0 | zire: I think it did |
| 10:36.58 | yoshimo | 25man firstkill with 19, wasnt it? |
| 10:37.10 | sb|work | onyxia isn't supposed to be hard |
| 10:37.20 | mitch0 | zire: have you checked the API pages? |
| 10:37.36 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10921023015&sid=1#9 <-retards = retards btw |
| 10:37.39 | yoshimo | you will need more time to travel there than to kill her ;) |
| 10:37.53 | zire | not in depth enough. i got thru the tutorial and decided to come look for advice before wading in too deep |
| 10:38.20 | mitch0 | well, in any case, if you start a new project, don't start with ace2 |
| 10:38.55 | orionshock | zire: did it change from acedb2 to acedb3 - not really, mostly what happened is addons where rewritten to not force self.db into all their structures but to use a supplied db variable. |
| 10:40.26 | mitch0 | orion: why were the "forced" to do it before, and not now? |
| 10:40.31 | orionshock | like embedded libs such as fubar, or more current the dual-spec lib by Adirelle, it dosn't assert that addon.db.profile exists, but that in using the lib, you provide your db to that function or specify where you want the lib specific settings |
| 10:40.45 | zire | orion: will an acedb3 object do the right thing if i pass it a profile that was created with acedb2? |
| 10:40.46 | Zeksie | vhaarr: 2 diffs for buggrabber and bugsack: http://paste.wowace.com/1182/ http://paste.wowace.com/1183/ |
| 10:40.51 | mitch0 | (just curious, as I still store a ref to "my part" of the self.db.profile in stuff) |
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| 10:40.53 | orionshock | mitch0: because before AceDB2 automatically put your db on your addon's object |
| 10:41.18 | orionshock | zire: acedb2 and acedb3 do not play together what so ever |
| 10:41.29 | mitch0 | ah |
| 10:41.37 | mitch0 | understands nopw |
| 10:41.41 | jnwhiteh | because acedb3 is dongledb :P |
| 10:41.41 | mitch0 | s/pw/w/ |
| 10:41.55 | orionshock | mitch0: well by convention we liked our db on self, but with acedb3 it's not enforced. |
| 10:41.58 | jnwhiteh | and I wrote it to purposely not be so intimately tied into an ace addon object |
| 10:42.16 | mitch0 | that reminds me, I might've forgotten to update plugins.db on profile change |
| 10:42.19 | mitch0 | goes to check |
| 10:42.30 | vhaarr | Zeksie: clean up indents (use tabs), explain the 3 commented lines in OnInitialize and remove the () wrapped around the if statement in buggrabber, then you can commit |
| 10:42.39 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Ammo * r53 Battleground.lua: |
| 10:42.43 | Repo | remove the chat option from message output, all messages are in chat already, sink is just for extra message output |
| 10:42.53 | zire | orion: i figured as much, thank you |
| 10:44.05 | mitch0 | vhaarr: I removed the parens in LibRangeCheck, you can take a look now without vomiting :) |
| 10:44.28 | Zeksie | i always use tabs.. it may have untabbed with pastey? |
| 10:44.49 | vhaarr | I dunno, it just looks misaligned in the pastey |
| 10:44.54 | Zeksie | the 3 commented lines are because it was truncating the majoprity of the locals dump |
| 10:44.55 | vhaarr | the coloring function |
| 10:45.02 | Zeksie | 4000 chars is nowhere near enough |
| 10:45.12 | vhaarr | Zeksie: alright, that stuff is legacy code you see |
| 10:45.30 | vhaarr | Zeksie: I think there was some limit to how much you could have in either a text field or a string at some point |
| 10:45.31 | Zeksie | yeh. it still gets some truncation, but i think that's from the debuglocals() itself. |
| 10:45.38 | vhaarr | alright, well whatever |
| 10:45.55 | vhaarr | remove stupid ()s, remove the commented out lines, and commit freely |
| 10:46.37 | Stanzilla | "err.time or "Uknown"" < really? |
| 10:46.58 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: you'd rather it bugged out due to someone editing their SVs? |
| 10:47.27 | Stanzilla | no I mean, shouldnt it be "Unknown"? :p |
| 10:47.30 | nevcairiel | ha |
| 10:47.40 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: file+line? |
| 10:47.49 | Stanzilla | http://paste.wowace.com/1183/ 33 |
| 10:48.12 | vhaarr | wtf are you talking about |
| 10:48.22 | vhaarr | ah, spelling mistake |
| 10:48.31 | Stanzilla | yes :P |
| 10:48.41 | vhaarr | Stanzilla: why didn't you just fix it and commit instead of bothering me with it |
| 10:48.49 | nevcairiel | he likes bothering people |
| 10:48.53 | Stanzilla | because I just woke up and read the diff |
| 10:50.49 | Zeksie | heh. i'll fix that at same time :p |
| 10:55.48 | asmodai | heh, my colleague just says the whole server we play on seems to be wiping big time to be the first to kill Onyxia. |
| 10:55.55 | asmodai | Guess tactics is a lost art or something. |
| 10:56.52 | nevcairiel | i still remember my guilds onyxia first |
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| 10:56.55 | nevcairiel | server first at that |
| 10:56.58 | nevcairiel | was kinda cool |
| 10:57.57 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: what, does she have y-s level complexity now? |
| 10:59.11 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: nah, seems he meant it differently |
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| 10:59.25 | asmodai | He meant they'll all rush at it tonight |
| 10:59.41 | Zeksie | vhaarr: done |
| 11:01.38 | vhaarr | Zeksie: is repo down? |
| 11:01.57 | zire | cheers, and thanks all =) |
| 11:02.03 | orionshock | @ping |
| 11:02.25 | Repo | pong |
| 11:02.54 | orionshock | wow, Repo you lag today |
| 11:03.15 | yoshimo | the wow servers do it on patchday as well ;) |
| 11:05.22 | asmodai | Not just patchday |
| 11:05.30 | asmodai | my realm has been having lag spikes that are nuts. |
| 11:05.48 | orionshock | the phrase Bizz as usuall come to mind when one mentions lag and wow servers in the same breath |
| 11:06.08 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.12 | asmodai | Deep Breath? |
| 11:08.06 | yoshimo | my realm has extended maintenance to improve instance capacity... i doubt it will improve the situation ;) |
| 11:08.30 | asmodai | Funny how this tools dev @ Blizzard mentions Perl, Python, Ruby on one of these blizzcasts :) |
| 11:08.37 | asmodai | yoshimo: Oh lord, you're on one of *those*? |
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| 11:08.47 | asmodai | yoshimo: Your realm had these 1500ms lag spikes? |
| 11:09.45 | yoshimo | most of the time with a "real good " aka deadly timing |
| 11:10.39 | Zeksie | vhaarr: looks like it |
| 11:12.51 | Fisker | we failed vhaarr |
| 11:12.55 | Fisker | so you can get some split up fail logs |
| 11:13.02 | Zeksie | and god. someone fixed Talented's inspect hook. errors every time and breaks hotkey access from then on :( |
| 11:13.12 | vhaarr | Fisker: I got a kill log, thanks anyway |
| 11:13.26 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:13.29 | Fisker | our team was fucking fail |
| 11:13.39 | Fisker | "Durr durr we have to stay out of deep breath?" |
| 11:13.41 | Fisker | pugs ftl |
| 11:13.49 | Zeksie | rofl |
| 11:14.17 | Zeksie | the full quote was: [Raid][Fisker]: We have to stay out of deep breath? |
| 11:14.42 | Fisker | fu Zeksie |
| 11:14.55 | Zeksie | ^^ |
| 11:23.11 | Fisker | seriously |
| 11:23.13 | Fisker | it was le fail |
| 11:23.20 | Fisker | of course it was even more fail we didn't have any ranged dps :P |
| 11:24.02 | Zeksie | yeh. small snag |
| 11:26.34 | Gnarfoz | no way, just stick under her like in the olden days |
| 11:26.34 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 11:27.02 | Pneumatus^ | throw more dots |
| 11:27.04 | Zeksie | tried a min ago.. coudln't hit her. but then our server is restarting in a mo. hotfix mebbe? |
| 11:27.04 | Pneumatus^ | more dots |
| 11:27.07 | Pneumatus^ | more dots |
| 11:27.10 | Pneumatus^ | stop dots |
| 11:28.34 | Mec | are we still at 30200 |
| 11:28.34 | asmodai | Pneumatus^: oi! |
| 11:28.45 | Zeksie | in fact. wasn't server restart, Ony is just not up now.. -.- |
| 11:28.50 | Pneumatus^ | although there is no aggro reset |
| 11:28.52 | asmodai | Pneumatus^: Gots me a question for ya |
| 11:29.10 | Pneumatus^ | i know nothing |
| 11:29.11 | asmodai | Pneumatus^: Can another addon cause classloot not to show its tooltip information? |
| 11:29.31 | Pneumatus^ | potentially, if they are doing something retarded like completely replacing GameTooltip with a new tip |
| 11:29.38 | asmodai | hmm |
| 11:30.01 | mitch0 | pneumatus: TipTop does that |
| 11:30.03 | Pneumatus^ | i support LinkWrangler for multiple tooltips though |
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| 11:30.07 | asmodai | Pneumatus^: Think only ratingbuster and auctioneer adjust it on my setup. Will need to look deeper in that. |
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| 11:30.16 | mitch0 | pneumatos: or something likely evil anyway |
| 11:30.20 | Pneumatus^ | it definatly works fine with ratingbuster |
| 11:30.28 | Pneumatus^ | no idea about auctioneer, but it should do |
| 11:30.41 | mitch0 | pneumatus: btw, go check bazooka and gief feedback! :) |
| 11:30.45 | Pneumatus^ | unless they use different tooltips to GameTooltip and ItemRefTooltip |
| 11:31.05 | asmodai | Pneumatus^: *nod* -- I need to double check why it was not showing up. |
| 11:31.26 | Pneumatus^ | oh, i also support AtlastLootTooltip |
| 11:31.29 | Camci | hey guys, im trying to upload my UI for a few friedns and guildies but I want to clean up the profile parts of some addons, like most of them got list of profile names like my name of my alts etc etc, how Do i clean those up and stuff before uploading my UI? |
| 11:31.39 | Pneumatus^ | but yeh, if they are using their own tooltips i'd need to add them |
| 11:32.14 | asmodai | Pneumatus^: I don't think so, which is why I was surprised since I remember using classloot in the past with these as well and not having this issue. |
| 11:32.24 | Pneumatus^ | i wonder what's happened to onyxia's old loot table |
| 11:32.53 | Pneumatus^ | well, T2 helms anyway |
| 11:34.19 | Camci | anyone? ^ :p |
| 11:36.42 | Zeksie | Camci: i assume you mean the settings from many mods? that's something you'll ahve to go thru on a file by file basis in SavedVars and know how to edit them. for this you will be on your own :) |
| 11:37.04 | Mec | if my repository was set to only package on beta and release, how to i get it to package the current tagged version |
| 11:39.16 | [Ammo] | anyone know how to get a list of the current cvars in game? |
| 11:39.24 | Camci | Zeksie: no UI uploading for me then lol |
| 11:40.19 | _rane | Camci: why do you care? |
| 11:40.30 | _rane | about that stuff |
| 11:40.32 | Camci | Ammo: http://www.wowwiki.com/Console_variables ? |
| 11:40.46 | [Ammo] | not good enough, I need the current ones avialable in game |
| 11:40.54 | [Ammo] | they changed one that controls the ambient water sounds |
| 11:41.03 | [Ammo] | in 3.2.2 and I need to know the new name :) |
| 11:41.15 | mitch0 | ammo: brute-force all names up to 8 chars? :) |
| 11:41.19 | Camci | _rane duno? I shouldnt? :p |
| 11:41.28 | [Ammo] | not a good idea mitch |
| 11:41.32 | Mec | "wow.exe -console" and use cvarlist |
| 11:41.35 | _rane | I just sent my priest UI to my friend and he mass replaced any instances of my priest's name to his |
| 11:41.43 | _rane | not sure if that was even necessary, but whatever |
| 11:42.00 | Camci | ah |
| 11:42.04 | [Ammo] | Mec: ah so that's how to use it :) |
| 11:42.11 | Camci | yea i guess :p |
| 11:42.48 | _rane | wat, wow has console? |
| 11:42.56 | Mec | ya |
| 11:43.03 | Mec | access with ~ after -console |
| 11:43.08 | _rane | is it useful for anything? |
| 11:43.24 | _rane | besides checking list of cvars |
| 11:43.25 | [Ammo] | I was wondering why /console cvarlist didn't work :p |
| 11:43.55 | Mec | i dunno, havnt really played around with the console |
| 11:46.02 | [Ammo] | listing all cvars isn't really useful |
| 11:46.10 | [Ammo] | it only lists those in use |
| 11:46.12 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 11:46.20 | Mec | hmm |
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| 11:48.51 | mitch0 | doest GetCVar fail with error if the cvar doesn't exist? |
| 11:49.05 | Zeksie | no |
| 11:49.29 | Zeksie | think SetCVar might. not sure. server just went down again.. |
| 11:49.43 | Zeksie | can also use GetCVarDefault to see if there's a preset. |
| 11:49.55 | nevcairiel | [Ammo], you could look at clads diff thingy, http://apidiff.pastey.net/125618 |
| 11:49.56 | [Ammo] | SetCVar fails |
| 11:50.01 | nevcairiel | but it doesnt show any new cvars |
| 11:50.09 | nevcairiel | just the removal |
| 11:50.10 | Camci | Pitbull b5 changed all the module loactions? |
| 11:50.10 | [Ammo] | oh thanks nevc |
| 11:50.12 | [Ammo] | yeah |
| 11:50.13 | [Ammo] | hrmf |
| 11:51.18 | mitch0 | there are misterious new processes running on my box... |
| 11:51.24 | mitch0 | D.exe |
| 11:51.35 | nevcairiel | welcome to virus land :P |
| 11:51.43 | _rane | oh don't worry, I'm sure it's just the blizzard background downlaoder |
| 11:51.47 | mitch0 | yeah, whole company seems to be infected |
| 11:52.05 | [Ammo] | d.exe is a process which is registered as W32/Mytob-GH Trojan. :p |
| 11:52.17 | mojosdojo | Zeksie: Does X-Perl provide mt frames for blizzard's api? |
| 11:52.37 | Zeksie | mojosdojo: yes, if you turn it on in options |
| 11:52.47 | Zeksie | it'll add to what oRA defined ones there are |
| 11:52.57 | mojosdojo | Zeksie: kk, thanks |
| 11:53.16 | [Ammo] | Zeksie: I presume you're talking oRA2 there |
| 11:53.20 | Zeksie | oRA2 that is. I've gotta plug in something for oRA3 |
| 11:53.47 | Zeksie | for the moment it remembers the order blizz MTs were defined and retains that |
| 11:54.28 | mitch0 | omtsreco.exe <- that's nice ("process info for oracle database") |
| 11:54.39 | mitch0 | (I don't have oracle running on my desktop :) |
| 11:54.48 | nevcairiel | now you do |
| 11:54.54 | Zeksie | grats |
| 11:54.59 | mitch0 | my only hope is that the strongest one will kill all the others... |
| 11:55.10 | mitch0 | then I'll only have to constraint that one :) |
| 11:55.34 | Stanzilla | Server Restart in 15 |
| 11:55.35 | Stanzilla | hmm |
| 11:55.44 | mitch0 | desktop restart in 5 |
| 11:55.47 | Stanzilla | what's broken now q.q |
| 11:55.52 | Torhal | So my GF is freaking over two silly-ass Flash games that apparently don't work properly under the Linux version of Flash. |
| 11:56.09 | Torhal | I'm aboutg to VirtualBox XP on her rig so she'll STFU. |
| 11:56.14 | mitch0 | I'll bring in a kubuntu live-cd tomorrow... |
| 11:56.15 | Zeksie | heh |
| 11:59.40 | [Ammo] | probably utterly useless, but one can only hope: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10920964078&postId=109195017783&sid=1#0 |
| 12:00.22 | nevcairiel | eu ui forums, you wish :P |
| 12:00.22 | [Ammo] | anyone that has a US account that can point some US reps to the post? |
| 12:00.28 | [Ammo] | yeah it's useless |
| 12:01.24 | Gnarfoz | should have asked for US reps since they can post there,too |
| 12:01.31 | Gnarfoz | they just don't read there :( |
| 12:02.25 | yoshimo | they should merge the english eu& forums |
| 12:02.31 | yoshimo | eu&us |
| 12:02.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah, useless distinction |
| 12:03.40 | asmodai | No thanks. |
| 12:03.40 | asmodai | I can do without the QQ from the US fora :P |
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| 12:04.28 | yoshimo | "youre european, you cant post here, no matter if you paid you eu supscription or not" |
| 12:05.00 | [Ammo] | the problem is the EU forums are monitored by people with absolutely zero authority over the UI stuff and zero interest in solving problems |
| 12:05.08 | [Ammo] | talking UI forums here |
| 12:05.25 | asmodai | [Ammo]: Yeah, that's a problem. :( |
| 12:05.26 | [Ammo] | but since it's the only place I can post, one can only hope :) |
| 12:07.04 | [Ammo] | damn forum shows me as 70 as well |
| 12:08.32 | nevcairiel | you need to re-select yoru char or something |
| 12:09.06 | Mec | i can't tag my repository on the website or by hand |
| 12:09.18 | [Ammo] | nevcairiel: I just selected it |
| 12:09.27 | [Ammo] | in it was showing my pala before |
| 12:09.28 | nevcairiel | then its broken again :P |
| 12:09.57 | Zeksie | ammo: yes, tried to post there last week and it gave me various errors ranging from "you don't have a warcraft account tied to this battle.net" to "you have no characters on this account".. |
| 12:10.54 | asmodai | Zeksie: on the USA fora? |
| 12:10.58 | Zeksie | EU |
| 12:11.16 | Zeksie | tried to select a char, and all mine were listed, but greyed out |
| 12:11.18 | yoshimo | [ammo] , will there be a backport-release including onyxia and koralon? im talking about ticket 96 here because there already is a module, which isnt loaded . |
| 12:11.22 | asmodai | Mmmm, that sucks. |
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| 12:12.34 | Elkano | Mec, sure you can |
| 12:12.43 | Elkano | just go to your project's page |
| 12:12.58 | Elkano | under "project management" there is "tag repository" |
| 12:14.03 | Mec | it's not doing anything |
| 12:16.18 | harl | i don't like how wow's patching engine removes my hard links from wow's directory. |
| 12:19.46 | Wobin | Mec, You have to wait til the packager runs |
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| 12:39.39 | vhaarr | Zeksie: <Elkano> Mikk, for some reason, BugSack is now scrolling to the bottom of the errors :/ |
| 12:40.49 | Zeksie | that part as you saw i've not touched. can do some investigating though if you like |
| 12:41.10 | vhaarr | well it's obvious, isn't it, the added lines of text makes it scroll |
| 12:41.25 | vhaarr | it would've scrolled previously except the errors almost never were that long |
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| 12:42.09 | Zeksie | i think it always scrolled. not that uncommon to get long errors |
| 12:42.21 | Zeksie | get a couple of CBH calls in the trace. |
| 12:42.32 | vhaarr | you don't even read what I say |
| 12:42.38 | vhaarr | or you do, then repeat it for no reason |
| 12:42.44 | vhaarr | <vhaarr> it would've scrolled previously except the errors almost never were that long |
| 12:42.54 | Zeksie | yes, i saw that. i was replying. |
| 12:43.02 | Zeksie | go have some coffee. you're being grumpy |
| 12:43.27 | vhaarr | yeah newsflash |
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| 12:47.48 | Zeksie | vhaarr: Seems this was done intentionally for whatever reason, there's an OnTextChanged which sets the ScrollBar value to the max limit |
| 12:47.58 | vhaarr | really, that's weird |
| 12:48.10 | Zeksie | yep. bottom of BugSack.lua |
| 12:48.38 | vhaarr | lots of legacy code here |
| 12:48.53 | Zeksie | I'll cut it out locally and see if it behaves without it |
| 12:49.24 | vhaarr | if it's fine the just remove it, I'll be redoing most of bugsack/buggrabber within the next month or two |
| 12:49.33 | Zeksie | sure thing |
| 12:52.10 | Zeksie | not removing it. but rather changing it so when you next/prev errors it'll scroll back to top |
| 12:53.26 | asmodai | wow, that's sweet: http://gizmodo.com/5365299/courier-first-details-of-microsofts-secret-tablet |
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| 13:15.54 | Zeksie | changed it anyway vhaar. Repo still seems deadish though |
| 13:15.58 | vhaarr | cool |
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| 13:16.44 | Vilkku | hmm |
| 13:16.45 | Fisker | slaps Zeksie around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:16.53 | Vilkku | is the new curse client slightly defected? :P |
| 13:17.00 | Vilkku | aka |
| 13:17.07 | Vilkku | when I launch it, it detects mod updates |
| 13:17.22 | Vilkku | but after a while it says everything is up to date |
| 13:17.29 | Vilkku | I checked the actual mod folders, nothing's been hanged |
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| 13:26.58 | Vilkku | also |
| 13:27.05 | Vilkku | when updating, I get "installation failed" |
| 13:28.11 | Groktar | vista? |
| 13:28.17 | Groktar | oh, nm |
| 13:28.18 | Groktar | idk |
| 13:29.22 | Vilkku | does the client have a secret dependancy on winzip or winrar? :P |
| 13:31.18 | Kalroth | no |
| 13:31.20 | Zeksie | nah, that'll be internal. more likely you have some issue with temporary folder |
| 13:31.26 | Vilkku | =/ |
| 13:31.30 | Vilkku | same issue on two computers :P |
| 13:31.40 | Vilkku | win7 btw |
| 13:32.20 | Vilkku | hmm |
| 13:32.21 | Vilkku | opened logs |
| 13:32.24 | Vilkku | tons of errors :D |
| 13:35.19 | Vilkku | http://vilkku.pastey.net/125626 |
| 13:37.21 | Zeksie | well, there's svn stuff in those folders. and i belive all svn files have read only attribute set. |
| 13:37.41 | Zeksie | question is, why does it have svn stuff there in the temp folder. |
| 13:41.35 | Fisker | 8btw Elkano or nevcairiel ? |
| 13:41.39 | Vilkku | oh, the client can't update if the folders are a part of a svn project? =/ |
| 13:41.51 | Vilkku | that's lame, I'm using SVN to sync my mods between computers :P |
| 13:41.58 | Fisker | You know if ze germans had anything to do with the "rating requirements" that kept out the brewfest quest? |
| 13:42.16 | nevcairiel | how would i know, i dont play :P |
| 13:42.18 | [Ammo] | ofcourse not |
| 13:42.34 | [Ammo] | it probably had to do with the retarded 21y old alcohol limit on american soil |
| 13:42.35 | Fisker | >.3 |
| 13:42.42 | Fisker | durr? |
| 13:42.48 | Fisker | It's only for EU [Ammo] |
| 13:42.54 | [Ammo] | boggle |
| 13:43.08 | Vilkku | Fisker, what quest? :o |
| 13:43.19 | Groktar | sets fire to Fisker's cat |
| 13:43.28 | steev | morning |
| 13:43.31 | nicoli_s | not cool groktar |
| 13:43.35 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10921022886&pageNo=1&sid=1#12 |
| 13:43.40 | nicoli_s | as hateful as fisker is, his kitty doesnt deserve that |
| 13:43.43 | nevcairiel | drinking usually isnt a big issue in the EU, germans are only weird with violence, especially in any WWII theme :p |
| 13:43.51 | Fisker | i'm wondering who did it so i can write threatening letters to them |
| 13:43.54 | Fisker | :3 |
| 13:43.56 | Vilkku | olol |
| 13:44.13 | Fisker | I don't even know any other rating boards than the BBFC and USK |
| 13:44.14 | nevcairiel | are those quests actually avail in the US? |
| 13:44.16 | Fisker | and PEGI of course |
| 13:44.23 | Vilkku | ESBR? |
| 13:44.25 | Fisker | as i understand it yeah |
| 13:44.33 | Fisker | i'm talking about in europe Vilkku |
| 13:44.33 | Vilkku | nowait |
| 13:44.37 | Vilkku | Fisker, yeah |
| 13:44.41 | Vilkku | and it's not ESBR is it? :P |
| 13:44.56 | Fisker | ? |
| 13:44.57 | Fisker | :E |
| 13:45.03 | vhaarr | Fisker: this time it's PEGI |
| 13:45.05 | Vilkku | ESRB |
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| 13:45.24 | Fisker | lets fuck them up |
| 13:45.36 | Fisker | or tell them to classify it as a 18+ game anyways |
| 13:45.41 | Fisker | i wouldn't mind |
| 13:45.49 | Vilkku | neither would I |
| 13:45.54 | nevcairiel | isnt it like 12+ now? |
| 13:45.55 | Vilkku | I bet the aussies would :> |
| 13:45.57 | nevcairiel | thats a big jump :P |
| 13:46.03 | Fisker | haha wtf |
| 13:46.08 | Fisker | PEGI gives me a warning when i search |
| 13:46.56 | Fisker | yeah nevcairiel |
| 13:47.17 | Fisker | anyways got any sauce on it vhaarr ? |
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| 13:47.29 | Fisker | it's funny though |
| 13:47.31 | vhaarr | they're clean |
| 13:47.48 | Fisker | Sofar i've heard: Blizzard = Hypocrites and Blizzard is breaking their own Terms of Use |
| 13:47.50 | steev | so is it a bug that onyxia resets every 8 hours? |
| 13:48.08 | Fisker | it's on a 5 day reset instead of weekly i believe |
| 13:48.12 | Fisker | sure it's not that? |
| 13:48.28 | steev | i looked right after it said i was saved and it said resets in 7 hours 46 minutes |
| 13:48.39 | nevcairiel | maybe its reset just is today |
| 13:48.45 | vhaarr | it's bugged |
| 13:48.55 | vhaarr | will follow normal reset once fixed |
| 13:49.03 | vhaarr | i.e. 7-day, at maintenance |
| 13:50.05 | Vilkku | hmm |
| 13:50.28 | Vilkku | anyone know how I can unlink a folder from tortoisesvn without deleting the folder itself? |
| 13:50.59 | Groktar | isn't there a .svn folder or something in there? |
| 13:51.06 | Groktar | think you can just delete that |
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| 13:54.01 | vhaarr | yes |
| 13:58.42 | steev | ugh |
| 13:58.48 | steev | way over hit and expertise cap again |
| 13:59.04 | Fisker | yarr |
| 13:59.14 | Fisker | doh sb|work |
| 13:59.16 | Fisker | i forgot! |
| 13:59.40 | Vilkku | right |
| 13:59.47 | Vilkku | removed all the .svn folders |
| 13:59.50 | Vilkku | client works like a charm now |
| 14:00.16 | vhaarr | Gnarfoz, mojosdojo, yoshimo: could you please reply to my comment on http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/tickets/77-wispers-from-deadly-boss-mods-make-it-though-boss-block/ instead of just voting on it |
| 14:00.31 | Fisker | slaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:01.45 | yoshimo | vhaarr, i thought a vote equals "yes do it, i dont want to see this messages", but ill do that |
| 14:02.05 | vhaarr | you thought wrong :P |
| 14:04.06 | Gnarfoz | I guess I voted before your comment was there oO |
| 14:04.13 | mojosdojo | vhaarr: I haven't seen a whisper from dbm in a long time, so I can't say if that's still happening |
| 14:04.50 | Gnarfoz | so you want to know if we're fine with bossblock blanket blocking everything from DBM? |
| 14:04.59 | vhaarr | I want you to reply to my comment in the bug |
| 14:05.00 | vhaarr | in the bug |
| 14:05.01 | vhaarr | not here |
| 14:05.04 | vhaarr | goes away |
| 14:05.15 | Gnarfoz | suit yourself |
| 14:05.30 | vhaarr | hey I need to make dinner, I'm not a machine |
| 14:06.21 | Gnarfoz | I hate how there is no nice way to say "enjoy your meal" in english |
| 14:06.22 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 14:06.47 | sb|work | meh, is mrtrader already useable? |
| 14:06.53 | sb|work | skillet broken again :( |
| 14:07.44 | Fisker | btw sb|work |
| 14:08.03 | sb|work | yup? |
| 14:08.16 | Fisker | that authenticator exploit was/is that the password it generates can be used more than once |
| 14:08.24 | Fisker | even though you might not have multiple wow accounts on it |
| 14:08.40 | Gnarfoz | well, that's by design, really :\ |
| 14:08.46 | Fisker | nope |
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| 14:09.19 | Gnarfoz | you'd have to wait another minute otherwise, if you ever mistype other half of your two-factor auth |
| 14:10.04 | Fisker | mistyping something wouldn't log you in successfully |
| 14:10.18 | Fisker | and therefor obviously not use up the generated key |
| 14:10.26 | Fisker | Logging in however would |
| 14:10.38 | Gnarfoz | ah, you didn't say anything about successful login, but I can see what you mean now |
| 14:10.45 | Fisker | If you login with the authenticator and quickly logout again the same code won't work |
| 14:10.50 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:10.53 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 14:10.54 | Fisker | But you can get around that |
| 14:10.57 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 14:11.14 | Gnarfoz | I was going to say "didn't you just suggest it DOESN'T work that way and logging in multiple times works" |
| 14:11.17 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 14:11.18 | Fisker | Of course i guess the person could keep logging on to prevent any serious damage |
| 14:11.19 | Fisker | but still |
| 14:11.51 | Fisker | Appears that someone has been keylogged successfully with it though |
| 14:12.11 | Fisker | He's had a thread up for weeks now, blues are ignoring it, and he said he was called up by blizzard a few days ago and that they're investigating |
| 14:12.17 | Fisker | :P |
| 14:12.44 | mitch0 | AceConfigRegistry-3.0:ValidateOptionsTable(): Bazooka.plugins.Skada: unknown parameter" <- when does that happen? |
| 14:13.25 | mitch0 | the complete trace (from blizz stuff) is here in the comments: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bazooka.aspx |
| 14:13.31 | mitch0 | but I don't understand it :( |
| 14:16.25 | mitch0 | it seems that ACD dies while it tries to report an error |
| 14:16.40 | mitch0 | s/ACD/ACR/ |
| 14:17.55 | Tentacled | oo, 3.2.2 livens up something with animation curves in the UI.xsd... any word on any forums how that's used..? |
| 14:18.39 | Zeksie | yeh, saw that. I'm hoping they've given the system some attention (ie: made it work) |
| 14:18.54 | Gnarfoz | vhaarr: replied, not sure if that's actually what you wanted to know :> |
| 14:19.49 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: so you're saying the perpetrator used the authenticator key within the same minute the victim logged on himself and thus kicked him out, and managed to change his pw in the mean time? |
| 14:20.41 | mitch0 | even the simple alpha animation is not reliable, so I won't hold my breath for the curves |
| 14:21.05 | yoshimo | vhaarr , would it make sense to include the maidens kiss on jaraxxus hm in bw? |
| 14:21.43 | Fisker | i'm not sure Gnarfoz |
| 14:22.07 | Fisker | but it's possible |
| 14:22.59 | mitch0 | nev: are you around? |
| 14:23.04 | nevcairiel | kind of |
| 14:24.08 | Fisker | nevcairiel was never around for my birth :( |
| 14:24.12 | kadrahil | i logged out with my brewfest stein :[ |
| 14:24.29 | mitch0 | could you take a peek at that stack trace: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/bazooka.aspx (in the comments) |
| 14:24.30 | Fisker | oh yeah that reminds me |
| 14:24.41 | mitch0 | nev: it seems aceconfigregistry dies while trying to report an error |
| 14:24.42 | kadrahil | itemlevel goes downnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 14:24.42 | Fisker | I hope they ban those guys who used the unlimited corin direbrew exploit |
| 14:24.47 | Fisker | because liek |
| 14:24.56 | kadrahil | because you didn't think about it first? |
| 14:25.01 | Fisker | no |
| 14:25.04 | kadrahil | :P |
| 14:25.12 | Fisker | Because i got banned for getting some additional candy corn at hallow's end |
| 14:25.18 | kadrahil | LOL |
| 14:25.26 | nevcairiel | mitch0, so tell them to get a not-broken error handler |
| 14:25.29 | kadrahil | poor Fisker |
| 14:25.38 | Fisker | So i'm guessing getting free mounts + BoE's that sell for atleast 2k each would warrant a suspension |
| 14:25.42 | kadrahil | 4pc DK bonus is now... amazing |
| 14:25.49 | mitch0 | nev: ah, so the error handler dies |
| 14:26.01 | nevcairiel | mitch0, it looks like it fails in the validation func though |
| 14:26.08 | kadrahil | Fisker: i sold about 6 crusader orbs yesterday for 1.5k each |
| 14:26.13 | nevcairiel | but you'll never know where, without the proper error message :P |
| 14:26.17 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 14:26.20 | kadrahil | :D |
| 14:26.24 | kadrahil | i have like 8k gold now |
| 14:26.27 | Fisker | I told my guild to do that |
| 14:26.29 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.32 | mitch0 | well, it's something about plugins.Skada :) |
| 14:26.34 | kadrahil | after loaning my gf 1.4k to get her epic flight on her 5th alt |
| 14:26.39 | kadrahil | lol |
| 14:27.02 | kadrahil | yeah they are dropping now, they're down to 1.1-1.3k |
| 14:27.33 | mitch0 | nev: -- make sure that all options[] are known parameters |
| 14:27.43 | mitch0 | nev: ^^ what exactly does that check for? |
| 14:28.12 | mitch0 | like, type = 'BAD'; or like type = 'group'; bad = 'lala'; |
| 14:28.15 | Wobin | what's the unlimited direbrew exploit? |
| 14:29.21 | vhaarr | abandon quest while fighting? |
| 14:29.26 | vhaarr | just a wild guess |
| 14:29.45 | Gnarfoz | you complete the quest to start the fight, how do you still have it during the fight? ;\ |
| 14:30.02 | kadrahil | silly vhaarr |
| 14:30.03 | vhaarr | ah you do, nevermind then :P |
| 14:30.15 | kadrahil | tricks are for Fiskers |
| 14:30.28 | Wobin | >< |
| 14:30.30 | Bruners | only pro's then |
| 14:30.36 | Wobin | that's .. a terrible pun |
| 14:30.41 | kadrahil | :( |
| 14:30.44 | kadrahil | FINE |
| 14:30.46 | kadrahil | AFK WORK |
| 14:30.55 | Gnarfoz | kadrahil: which itemlevel is being dropped btw? |
| 14:31.00 | Wobin | 226 |
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| 14:31.27 | Wobin | oh no idea |
| 14:31.28 | Gnarfoz | great answer |
| 14:31.28 | Gnarfoz | :D |
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| 14:32.18 | Pneumatus^ | wtf, apparently i did 1700 damage with avenger's shield |
| 14:32.26 | Pneumatus^ | yet i'm a discpriest |
| 14:32.30 | Gnarfoz | nicely done! |
| 14:32.37 | Wobin | grats! |
| 14:33.09 | Stanzilla | reflective shield! :p |
| 14:34.32 | Pneumatus^ | i don't have reflective shield, and the pally that cast avengers shield was in my group |
| 14:34.37 | Pneumatus^ | against an ony warder |
| 14:35.08 | Gnarfoz | zomg 24 stacks of rhino meat |
| 14:35.16 | Gnarfoz | and cooking daily is mustard dogs |
| 14:35.27 | Gnarfoz | incoming spam of 4 stack auctions for triple the price I bought them at |
| 14:36.11 | mitch0 | ah, I see |
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| 14:38.02 | sylvanaar | orionshock ping |
| 14:39.02 | Wobin | Gnarfoz, you pay for rhino meat? |
| 14:39.09 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: I make THEM pay for it |
| 14:39.11 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 14:39.19 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10920574139&postId=109195819730&sid=1#41 |
| 14:39.20 | Fisker | lol |
| 14:39.26 | Gnarfoz | buy everything, re-list at 2-3x price |
| 14:39.33 | Gnarfoz | in neat 4-stacks, no less |
| 14:39.49 | Fisker | "Blizzard Europe took the entirely pragmatic and market oreintated approach to obtain the 12+ PEGI rating. It was not done in the interest of protecting minors, it was not done in the interests of making a more child-friendly game, it WAS DONE with only one thing in mind: Making more Money." |
| 14:39.51 | Fisker | Ya think? |
| 14:40.04 | Fisker | hurrdurrs |
| 14:40.15 | nevcairiel | as if any company does it for the reasons listed before |
| 14:40.20 | nevcairiel | <.< |
| 14:41.00 | Fisker | >.> |
| 14:41.06 | Gnarfoz | T_T |
| 14:41.07 | Fisker | >.< |
| 14:41.10 | Fisker | <.> |
| 14:41.16 | Gnarfoz | \D:/ |
| 14:41.19 | Fisker | d. |
| 14:41.21 | Fisker | D. |
| 14:41.22 | Fisker | D: |
| 14:42.20 | pb_ee1 | . |
| 14:42.37 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:45.16 | sylvanaar | i think i have reached the tipping point with the game - onyxia takes the cake |
| 14:45.59 | Fisker | soothes sylvanaar |
| 14:46.02 | Fisker | there there |
| 14:46.16 | Wobin | sylvanaar, don't worry, we'll get the cake back =( |
| 14:46.17 | sylvanaar | its like a used car |
| 14:46.29 | nevcairiel | and you didnt think that for naxxramas? |
| 14:46.32 | sylvanaar | i did |
| 14:46.47 | nevcairiel | next expansion is the used-car-expansion |
| 14:46.51 | nevcairiel | go quit now before its too late |
| 14:46.52 | nevcairiel | :P |
| 14:46.52 | sylvanaar | i know |
| 14:47.05 | sylvanaar | heroic deadmines |
| 14:47.10 | Fisker | finds out that the only reason Blizzard did Naxx was because of player QQ |
| 14:47.17 | Fisker | same with DM and SFK |
| 14:47.42 | nevcairiel | DM Heroic might actually be fun |
| 14:47.44 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 14:47.48 | sylvanaar | novelty |
| 14:48.02 | sb|work | errrr |
| 14:48.04 | Fisker | shadowfang keep is cool because of the music! |
| 14:48.05 | nevcairiel | but naxxramas was just boring, at least for players that raided it in classic |
| 14:48.50 | Fisker | everything in classic was boring :( |
| 14:48.58 | Fisker | Well except maybe AQ40 because of the cool trash |
| 14:49.00 | nevcairiel | in classic it was fine |
| 14:49.04 | Fisker | and not that big amounts of it |
| 14:49.09 | nevcairiel | i liked playing in classic more then wotlk :( |
| 14:49.14 | Fisker | i don't : |
| 14:49.15 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:49.18 | Wobin | nah |
| 14:49.27 | sylvanaar | I thought the were going to release wrath with a new raid instance |
| 14:49.35 | Wobin | well, the problem really was there was too much time between xpacs |
| 14:49.36 | sylvanaar | originally - when i started in beta |
| 14:49.43 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 14:49.53 | nevcairiel | BC was still fine |
| 14:49.53 | Fisker | one thing that's odd |
| 14:49.58 | nevcairiel | with wrath it just went all down |
| 14:49.59 | Fisker | they basically skipped wyrmrest temple |
| 14:50.00 | Wobin | oh god BC was -terrible- |
| 14:50.06 | Fisker | Was supposed to be this hub for a few one-shot bosses |
| 14:50.29 | Wobin | Do you know how -long- I played Kara for? >< |
| 14:50.36 | Fisker | kara was horrible too |
| 14:50.42 | nevcairiel | i did too, but i still liked it on my 3rd alt =p |
| 14:50.43 | Bruners | nice, just sold an obsidian hatcling for 160g :D |
| 14:50.52 | Fisker | bosses were awesome though |
| 14:50.54 | Wobin | nevcairiel, maybe by the 5th =P |
| 14:51.08 | Wobin | Bruners, only? |
| 14:51.17 | nevcairiel | at times i ran kara 3 times a week on all chars |
| 14:51.18 | Bruners | Wobin: the one you buy in dalaran |
| 14:51.24 | Wobin | oh =P |
| 14:51.31 | Wobin | Bruners, terrible =) |
| 14:52.16 | Bruners | i just saw a few on ah and put one up just to test :) |
| 14:52.38 | Bruners | stupid people will remain stupid i guess |
| 14:54.46 | [Ammo] | anyone with a US account that can forward a question to the US forums? |
| 14:54.47 | [Ammo] | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10920964078&sid=1 |
| 14:56.26 | steev | Bruners: where do you buy it? |
| 14:56.35 | steev | also, where does one get the pandaren monk! |
| 14:56.38 | Wobin | steev, petshop in dalaran |
| 14:56.51 | Wobin | [Ammo], UI/Macro forum? |
| 14:56.52 | Bruners | steev: Breanni |
| 14:57.10 | Bruners | steev: first to the right when you come from the landing place |
| 14:57.15 | [Ammo] | Wobin: guess so yeah |
| 14:57.16 | steev | cool |
| 14:57.47 | [Ammo] | I doubt it's a bug, and it probably has something to do with eliminating some fishbots |
| 14:57.51 | steev | thats the hatchling |
| 14:57.57 | steev | the monk is a timed thing? |
| 14:58.33 | Wobin | wait the monk is a purchased pet? |
| 14:59.05 | steev | i dunno, i thought thats what Bruners was saying, but apparently i forgot i asked where to buy the hatchling :) |
| 14:59.55 | Bruners | what windows app can i use to edit tga files? except photoshop and other blots |
| 15:00.20 | Elkano | gimp? ;) |
| 15:00.36 | [Ammo] | gimp |
| 15:01.18 | Pneumatus^ | confirming dis |
| 15:01.20 | quiescens | notepad |
| 15:02.36 | Fisker | [Ammo] = owned |
| 15:02.41 | [Ammo] | tsk |
| 15:02.59 | Fisker | i meant alternate reality [Ammo] not you! |
| 15:03.06 | Fisker | hides |
| 15:05.55 | Stanzilla | Bruners: paint.net |
| 15:06.54 | Pucmel | printer and brushes |
| 15:08.24 | steev | ugh |
| 15:08.41 | steev | t9 pants are a downgrade from what i have, and i can't change chest or helm, or else i lose the t8 2p |
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| 15:10.06 | steev | blergh, i hate being at this point where the upgrades are trade offs between stats |
| 15:10.34 | [Ammo] | jjust get em all and replace when you have everything :) |
| 15:10.49 | Wobin | steev, it's clearly time for Cataclysm to come out =P |
| 15:10.50 | [Ammo] | if it's BiS just get it and not wear it yet if you lose a bonus too early |
| 15:11.13 | Wobin | the onyxia whelpling looks ugly as sin |
| 15:11.23 | Wobin | it's like an anorexic dragon |
| 15:11.49 | steev | [Ammo]: yeah i know |
| 15:11.53 | steev | but |
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| 15:12.04 | steev | im already lacking a massive amount of bag space as it is |
| 15:12.31 | [Ammo] | bank it |
| 15:12.36 | [Ammo] | and move stuff from bank to bank alt(s) |
| 15:12.58 | steev | [Ammo]: http://ubersekret.com/screenshots/bagspace.png |
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| 15:13.26 | [Ammo] | one word: bank |
| 15:13.55 | Wobin | four belts? |
| 15:14.10 | steev | different specs |
| 15:14.21 | Pneumatus | something is very broken about the combatlog atm |
| 15:14.23 | Wobin | ... but 4? |
| 15:14.41 | Wobin | and learn that glyph book =P |
| 15:14.42 | Pneumatus | i've just seen Holy Vengeance applied by me in the combat log as well |
| 15:14.51 | steev | tanking, mitigation tanking, dw frost, dw unholy, 2h dps |
| 15:15.09 | steev | its not a glyph book, its a quest item i need to go turn in :-P |
| 15:15.15 | Wobin | mana potions? =) |
| 15:15.26 | steev | yeah, need to ship that off to my shaman |
| 15:16.14 | steev | i was lucky enough to win the bag from ony last night |
| 15:16.26 | steev | sad that turning in the head of ony does nothing anymore :( |
| 15:22.22 | steev | and im still up in the air about whether to stick with the bloodbath belt (supposedly bis) - or go back to the girdle of the impaler (mainly due to the fact that the belt has expertise and i'm way over cap now) |
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| 15:33.47 | [Ammo] | repo died a painful death I suppose? |
| 15:35.30 | Shadowed | probably |
| 15:35.37 | Shadowed | since he didn't announce a commit from an hour ago |
| 15:36.06 | Groktar | snacks on [Ammo]'s face |
| 15:36.54 | rubik | Repo hasn't said anything since ~3am |
| 15:37.11 | rubik | err.. 5.5 hours ago, that is |
| 15:37.15 | Groktar | mourns the death of Repo |
| 15:37.49 | pompy | @ping |
| 15:37.49 | Repo | pong |
| 15:38.01 | Groktar | somebody commit something |
| 15:38.03 | Groktar | go |
| 15:41.30 | pompy | Groktar: i just did, yeah repo is dead |
| 15:41.42 | [Ammo] | I was committing several things |
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| 15:42.30 | rubik | uh huh.. suuuure you were. :P |
| 15:42.59 | [Ammo] | was updating some textures for CastDonut |
| 15:43.10 | [Ammo] | it's a lot smoother now thanks to one Mikkel Westh |
| 15:43.23 | Codayus | Yay |
| 15:43.32 | rubik | oh nice.. not as jaggy/pixelated? |
| 15:43.32 | [Ammo] | it shouldn't be |
| 15:43.37 | [Ammo] | at least I didn't notice it |
| 15:43.40 | [Ammo] | which doesn't say much ofcourse |
| 15:43.41 | rubik | cool |
| 15:44.09 | [Ammo] | I need to add a small config gui thingy |
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| 15:53.17 | Groktar | noms Shirik's internal organs |
| 15:53.40 | pompy | ~lart repo |
| 15:53.41 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of repo |
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| 16:07.44 | yoshimo | the wowarmory still doesnt report all reputations like the argenttournament faction, does it? |
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| 16:17.04 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, you tried zooming out fully in mapster tlately |
| 16:17.14 | nevcairiel | i don't play, so no :P |
| 16:17.36 | nevcairiel | i was meaning to checkout that other mapster bug people reported, though. |
| 16:17.41 | nevcairiel | since today |
| 16:18.37 | Funkeh` | nevcairiel, just a weird highlighting bug |
| 16:18.42 | Funkeh` | when you mouse over the 2 planets |
| 16:18.47 | Funkeh` | the glow stretches out of the map |
| 16:19.03 | Fisker | [Ammo] |
| 16:19.07 | Fisker | you wouldn't steal my heart |
| 16:19.08 | Fisker | :3 |
| 16:25.22 | rubik | anyone know what the deal is with the new Vendorstrike? |
| 16:26.09 | rubik | supposedly you can split off a Thunderstrike from a Shadowstrike (like.. it creates a new second item?) and trade the Shadowstrike and someone else can split off a Thunderstrike, etc. |
| 16:26.09 | Shadowed | Hrm, when you call table.wipe on a MT you blow away the MT? |
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| 16:37.14 | kadrahil | stabs Fisker |
| 16:37.34 | Fisker | moar |
| 16:37.43 | kadrahil | stabs Fisker |
| 16:37.54 | Fisker | moooooooar |
| 16:38.21 | kadrahil | stabs Fisker |
| 16:39.17 | Fisker | :) |
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| 16:53.41 | Funkeh` | i tell you what nevcairiel I think it's as simple as 1 frame no being properly scales |
| 16:53.48 | Funkeh` | scaled* |
| 16:54.05 | nevcairiel | that was my thought, but i didnt have time to check the diff in the map code |
| 16:56.04 | Fisker | gives nevcairiel a kiss |
| 16:56.11 | nevcairiel | ewww |
| 16:57.29 | Axodious | hey is there someone developing CC 4 available to talk to? |
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| 17:00.08 | sb|work | WTF PW: S bug |
| 17:00.15 | sb|work | thats funny :o |
| 17:00.36 | nicoli_s | cant spell yer name right huh xtke? |
| 17:00.38 | sb|work | i just did starfire & lightning bolt as priest :/ |
| 17:02.09 | asmodai | funny |
| 17:02.24 | asmodai | they added an arcance nightelf in Dalaran |
| 17:02.37 | Bruners | what is the reset time on onyxia now? |
| 17:04.11 | yoshimo | id say 7d as each other raid |
| 17:05.09 | rubik | blue posted to say it should be 7d but they looking into reports that it was showing up as 1d |
| 17:05.38 | Stanzilla | sb|work: what's the bug? |
| 17:05.44 | Groktar | snacks on Stanzilla's children |
| 17:06.05 | sb|work | Stanzilla: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=10920804357&sid=1 |
| 17:06.27 | Stanzilla | Groktar: so that means you suck my balls because that is where my "children" are? :O |
| 17:06.50 | Groktar | no, i mean i ate them |
| 17:07.35 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 17:08.24 | Stanzilla | sb|work: nice O_O |
| 17:08.31 | Groktar | gently pats Stanzilla |
| 17:08.45 | Groktar | wow there are a lot of names that start with "s" in here |
| 17:09.08 | Groktar | i tried to tab complete Stanzilla from just "s" |
| 17:09.13 | Groktar | was tabbing for quite a while |
| 17:09.29 | sb|work | Stanzilla: yay, 10man is going to be fun tonight :p |
| 17:13.22 | Stanzilla | I'll let them re-glyph :P |
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| 17:15.31 | NeoTron | Groktar: need a better tab logic! It appears irssi tab completes (first?) based on the order of which people said things |
| 17:15.46 | NeoTron | so I got stanzilla, sb and Shadowed in that order :P |
| 17:16.02 | rubik | same here |
| 17:17.04 | rubik | but i use irssi too so i guess that's expected. hah |
| 17:17.32 | Groktar | stabs mirc in the eye |
| 17:17.48 | Groktar | irssi's way is definitely better |
| 17:18.09 | quiescens | the order is based on um, most recent activity first or something |
| 17:18.24 | NeoTron | sb|work: nice bug btw. I second the comment "Sometime [sic] I wonder how this game is programed and how such kinds of bugs are even possible." |
| 17:19.43 | Groktar | accidently rips off NeoTron's face and stuffs it into the blender before drinking it through a straw |
| 17:20.14 | quiescens | who uses a straw |
| 17:20.35 | Groktar | my jaw is wired together |
| 17:20.37 | Groktar | duh |
| 17:24.51 | mitchnull | repo? |
| 17:26.55 | pompy | it's dead |
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| 17:30.12 | mitchnull | syndication works? seems the curse site is pretty heavily hit... |
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| 17:34.11 | joel-_ | Can Omen toss up a warning when anyone takes aggro from the current tank? |
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| 17:36.43 | mitchnull | blizz should not reset that "Load out-of-date addons" if they don't touch bump the interface version |
| 17:37.24 | Shadowed | they shouldn't |
| 17:37.33 | pompy | blizz should also not reset the cache so friggin much |
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| 17:40.16 | Stanzilla | curse client updating itself while wow is running..awesome idea |
| 17:40.39 | Groktar | beta software is beta! |
| 17:40.48 | Stanzilla | indeed |
| 17:42.18 | sb|work | whats the problem? works fine in background |
| 17:43.41 | Tentacled | why would that be a problem anyway... It's not like it mines a running wow's memory or anything |
| 17:43.41 | Groktar | think he's complaining about it lagging wow |
| 17:44.01 | Tentacled | And, not like WoW will re-read any addons Curse might update |
| 17:44.19 | Groktar | i assumed he was talking about cc updating itself |
| 17:44.23 | Stanzilla | sb|work: wow froze |
| 17:44.24 | Groktar | not the addons |
| 17:44.29 | sb|work | Stanzilla: get new computer :p |
| 17:44.36 | Stanzilla | computer is fine |
| 17:45.01 | NeoTron | if wow froze from curse client updating itself, it seems like you have other issues |
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| 17:52.49 | Groktar | wow, someone in my guild just now figured out my priest's name |
| 17:52.51 | Groktar | "gahzirra" |
| 17:53.02 | mitchnull | if I tag something from the project page and the tag is not visible in svn ls, should I tag again? or is it "in the queue"? |
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| 18:05.17 | mitchnull | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:10.34 | _rane | Mikk: is there a substitution code for character class in MSBT triggers? |
| 18:13.15 | pompy | _rane: Mikk isnt the author of MSBT |
| 18:13.44 | _rane | I was going to ask that first, but figured I'd feel stupid |
| 18:13.54 | _rane | not even original author? |
| 18:14.21 | pompy | no, MSBTs author is Mikord |
| 18:15.21 | _rane | oh, ko |
| 18:15.23 | _rane | ok* |
| 18:20.58 | Zyn | it's so awesome that Icehowls corpse doesn't despawn |
| 18:21.12 | Zyn | so we're bringing in alt DKs who are specced Corpse Explosion just to get rid of it |
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| 18:37.46 | sb|work | ohnoes |
| 18:37.52 | sb|work | no bigwigs announce for deep breath :/ |
| 18:40.12 | asmodai | wtf |
| 18:40.17 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.39 | steev | how is that a bad thing? |
| 18:40.53 | Xtek | Tentacled: That would only make sense if you had only one install. What if you have 2+ installs of WoW and you want it to continue updating your WoW addons? |
| 18:44.20 | steev | blargh |
| 18:44.23 | steev | stupid lag |
| 18:47.10 | mitchnull | wtb curse syndication :( |
| 18:47.37 | mitchnull | I managed to upload a FAIL 1.0 :( |
| 18:50.18 | asmodai | steev: it now goes, for me, chucka chucka bock bock bock bock |
| 18:50.25 | asmodai | with the bock being a chicken sound? :| |
| 18:50.36 | asmodai | Pneumatus: Around? :) |
| 18:50.42 | Pneumatus | maybe |
| 18:50.46 | mitchnull | pneumatus! |
| 18:50.51 | asmodai | heh |
| 18:50.57 | Pneumatus | ive not had a chance to look yet mitch |
| 18:51.02 | mitchnull | :) |
| 18:51.13 | mitchnull | 1.0 was FAIL anyway, wait for 1.0.1 :) |
| 18:51.17 | mitchnull | if it ever syndicates |
| 18:51.22 | asmodai | Pneumatus: Dalronn's Jerkin should trigger Classloot's display, right? |
| 18:51.30 | yoshimo | sb|work, they seem to be using the same spellids as they used before the patch. with a few additional once, you might be able to use bw_azeroth |
| 18:51.32 | Pneumatus | is it on wow-loot? |
| 18:51.55 | Pneumatus | some stuff is missing |
| 18:51.58 | Pneumatus | so doesnt have ratings |
| 18:52.25 | steev | asmodai: as i said, how is that a bad thing |
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| 18:53.32 | asmodai | Pneumatus: it is |
| 18:53.56 | Pneumatus | wil take a look later then |
| 18:54.23 | asmodai | Pneumatus: well, it could be another addon interfering. |
| 18:54.44 | asmodai | Pneumatus: If I disable everything but classloot, it should show it, theoretically, correct? |
| 18:54.55 | Pneumatus | assuming the rating is in the db, yes |
| 18:54.59 | Zeksie | what if it's classloot :p |
| 18:55.20 | Zeksie | oh wait.. don't read guild chat and respond here.. bad bad. |
| 18:55.29 | asmodai | Zeksie: then we can point and laugh at Pneumatus ? |
| 18:55.46 | Hjalte | Hmm, all my libraries lost their icon in CC4 after the update to 4.0.0.712. Feature or bug? |
| 18:56.00 | asmodai | Hjalte: I didn't have that I think |
| 18:56.10 | nicoli_s | sounds like a bug hjalte |
| 18:56.15 | asmodai | starts it again |
| 18:56.41 | asmodai | oh wait, another update? :| |
| 18:57.21 | Pneumatus | asmodai: no |
| 18:57.23 | Pneumatus | its a blue item |
| 18:57.31 | Pneumatus | classloot only rates raid loot |
| 18:57.35 | asmodai | ahh, gotcha |
| 18:58.28 | asmodai | Hjalte: I got all my icons still |
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| 19:05.53 | Xtek | Hjalte: someone is looking into it. |
| 19:06.53 | rubik | any raiding fury warriors here? |
| 19:07.09 | Kaelten | @ping |
| 19:07.09 | Repo | pong |
| 19:07.59 | Xtek | rubik: I haven't in a while but I have been since vanilla WoW. |
| 19:08.00 | Xtek | What's up? |
| 19:08.08 | Xtek | By in a while I mean since 3.1~ |
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| 19:08.48 | rubik | trying to convince our 10m raiding warrior (he's got 25m gear too though; he raids with another guild too) to shuffle some pts around in fury tree but he's QQing |
| 19:09.01 | rubik | is Fury really that tight with "must-get" talents? |
| 19:09.08 | Repo | 10bug-grabber: 03Zeksie * r143 BugGrabber.lua: Add locals dump to end of saved stack trace. |
| 19:09.17 | rubik | Repo IS ALIVE |
| 19:09.30 | Kaelten | lol |
| 19:09.32 | Kaelten | he was trying to be |
| 19:09.34 | Xtek | rubik: Yes it is. |
| 19:09.49 | Zeksie | only 8 hours behind |
| 19:09.52 | Xtek | I think it's 18/53/0. |
| 19:09.58 | Torhal- | Kaelten: Throttle the messages :) |
| 19:10.02 | Kaelten | ya |
| 19:10.20 | *** join/#wowace Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 19:10.26 | Kaelten | lets see what he does this time |
| 19:10.46 | Repo | 10amc: 03S1nless * r52 lib/LibStub.lua: deletle LibStub.lua |
| 19:10.50 | Repo | 10broker_uberinventory: 03S1nless * r29 ExaileBroker.toc: toc update |
| 19:10.54 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha2-49-g233b47b / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 19:10.57 | Kaelten | @ping Repo |
| 19:10.59 | Repo | 233b47b: Fixed some upvalues. |
| 19:11.00 | rubik | Xtek: yeah, i think that's what he's got.. but we are struggling bad on Anub 10H (get to him with 2-3 wipes total and then we wipe 20+ times) so i was trying to have him take the "MS" talent in Fury |
| 19:11.28 | Kaelten | lol |
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| 19:12.02 | Kaelten | Torhal-: how old was that commit |
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| 19:14.03 | pompy | 7 hours ago he commited that |
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| 19:14.41 | Repo | - Achievement 684 'Onyxia's Lair' removed from Classic: |
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| 19:15.55 | Repo | 10libhealcomm-4-0: 03Shadowed 04b3.1 * 2cddc74 /: [new tag] Tagging as beta 3.1 |
| 19:15.59 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r54 / (2 files in 2 directories): fix AceConfigRegistry validation error |
| 19:16.03 | Repo | 10classloot: 03Pneumatus * r101 / (2 files in 1 directory): - 68 Items Added (Onyxia) |
| 19:16.03 | Shadowed | WELCOME BACK REPO |
| 19:16.07 | Repo | - Re-mine Coliseum |
| 19:16.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6353 Plugins/Proximity.lua: Fix sound toggle. |
| 19:16.15 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Adirelle * r56 Locales/frFR.lua: frFR updated, thanks to Pettigrow. |
| 19:16.19 | Repo | 10battleground: 03Adirelle * r57 Locales/frFR.lua: Forgot one frFR update. |
| 19:16.23 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 04v1.0.1 * r55 : Tagging as v1.0.1 |
| 19:16.27 | Zeksie | and now, 30 mins of spam |
| 19:16.27 | Repo | - Fix Lua error when loading the Options module if some LDB plugins are already registered |
| 19:16.31 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r56 Bazooka_Options/Bazooka_Options.toc: forgot to bump toc... |
| 19:17.01 | Kaelten | Zeksie: a good chunk of it will be caught by the spam flooding |
| 19:17.07 | sztanpet | battleground needs a tag, shit sucks with the curse syndication |
| 19:17.23 | Zeksie | super ;) |
| 19:23.05 | Stanzilla | yeah that bigwigs commit didn't sync, too |
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| 19:28.11 | Torhal- | Kaelten: About seven hours |
| 19:28.18 | Kaelten | heh |
| 19:28.30 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: syncer having issues? |
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| 19:43.48 | harl | o'noes, ay hav miessd da eevenin! |
| 19:43.55 | Fisker | onos |
| 19:44.18 | Fisker | where's my god damn SC2 beta? |
| 19:44.56 | harl | /dev/null |
| 19:45.28 | Kaelten | maintenance is over guys |
| 19:45.31 | NeoTron | Fisker: it's not ready |
| 19:45.48 | Fisker | yes it is |
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| 19:48.32 | Kaelten | Fisker: uhuh |
| 19:49.35 | Fisker | I'm glad you agree |
| 19:49.39 | Fisker | or i would've incinerated you |
| 19:49.58 | Kaelten | ~incenerate faCe| |
| 19:49.59 | Kaelten | er |
| 19:50.03 | Kaelten | ~incenerate Fisker |
| 19:50.07 | Kaelten | damnit |
| 19:50.10 | faCe| | :) |
| 19:50.11 | durcyn | ~incinerate Kaelten |
| 19:50.17 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 19:50.24 | durcyn | purl: ping |
| 19:50.25 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:50.30 | durcyn | ~literal incinerate |
| 19:50.35 | Kaelten | ~lart Fisker |
| 19:50.35 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at Fisker |
| 19:50.38 | asmodai | mmm, anyone else see this weird map behaviour where the overlay icons are off their position and bigger? When you click the map with the left mouse button once, it will resize and rescale the buttons to the right position |
| 19:50.52 | Fisker | ~lesbian Kaelten |
| 19:50.54 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: looks like ti |
| 19:51.17 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: what's going on? |
| 19:51.52 | durcyn | ~incinerate Fisker |
| 19:52.00 | durcyn | purl: fuck you |
| 19:52.01 | purl | I have a headache |
| 19:52.02 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: bigwigs r6353 is missing |
| 19:52.09 | Torhal- | ~whalecrit Fisker |
| 19:52.10 | purl | ACTION crits Fisker with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. Fisker dies |
| 19:52.10 | Repo | 10acronymguide: 03tactician2 * r49 enUS_Definitions.lua: additional possibilities for exsisting acronyms |
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| 19:52.13 | *** mode/#wowace [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 19:52.21 | Kaelten | @describe bigwigs |
| 19:52.22 | Repo | Kaelten: No project found that matches 'bigwigs' |
| 19:52.28 | Kaelten | @describe big-wigs |
| 19:52.29 | sb|work | @describe big-wigs |
| 19:52.29 | Repo | Kaelten: http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Modular, lightweight, non-intrusive approach to boss encounter warnings. |
| 19:52.31 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/big-wigs/. BigWigs Bossmods. Modular, lightweight, non-intrusive approach to boss encounter warnings. |
| 19:52.31 | sb|work | :P |
| 19:52.40 | Torhal- | WTF? |
| 19:52.58 | Torhal- | Oh |
| 19:52.58 | Torhal- | Nevermind |
| 19:52.59 | Fisker | my feet are brr'ing Kaelten |
| 19:53.02 | Torhal- | I thought Repo was responding to ":P" with that |
| 19:53.23 | Kaelten | ~comfort Torhal- |
| 19:53.24 | purl | There, there, Torhal-. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 19:53.41 | Fisker | ~roulette |
| 19:53.42 | purl | ACTION watches fisker pull the trigger: Click! |
| 19:55.52 | steev | ~roulette |
| 19:55.53 | purl | ACTION watches steev pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 19:55.57 | steev | woot! im dead! |
| 19:56.10 | Fisker | good riddance |
| 19:56.17 | Fisker | spits on the corpse of steev |
| 19:56.24 | steev | :( |
| 19:56.32 | Kaelten | Stanzilla: uhm, all the recent files are alpha's they won't show up on the server |
| 19:57.06 | Fisker | where's my damn hdd steev |
| 19:57.08 | Fisker | i was promise |
| 19:57.09 | Fisker | d |
| 19:59.45 | durcyn | your hdd is in /dev betwen hdc and hde, idiot |
| 20:00.22 | Fisker | oh thanks |
| 20:00.23 | Fisker | jerk |
| 20:00.50 | Fisker | why don't you take your reward in /dev/null? |
| 20:01.35 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: but it's there now :P |
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| 20:01.58 | Shadowed | Well now that's odd, getting "target is not in your party" somehow |
| 20:03.46 | Torhal- | Shadowed: I blame Fisker. |
| 20:04.01 | Shadowed | It would be pretty impressive if Fisker managed to cause an error without touching my local addons |
| 20:05.07 | nevcairiel | who says he didnt |
| 20:05.56 | Repo | 10grid-auto-frame-size: 03CrazyBenny * r78 / (4 files in 1 directory): added Onyxia's Lair |
| 20:07.27 | Shadowed | ... it's not UninviteUnit, SendChatMessage or SendAddonMessage |
| 20:07.28 | Shadowed | I am confused |
| 20:07.40 | Fisker | i'm so awesome |
| 20:07.52 | Shadowed | I hate you Fisker |
| 20:08.09 | Xtek | |
| 20:08.45 | sylvanaar | this sounds like a fun conversation |
| 20:12.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs_azeroth: 03yoshimo * r202 Onyxia.lua: Updated deDE-locale |
| 20:13.18 | asmodai | jups, confirmed with someone else |
| 20:13.26 | asmodai | at least the female draenei /train sound is broken XD |
| 20:15.48 | yoshimo | shadowed, i noticed this as well, as we left the raid |
| 20:16.22 | Shadowed | SUF is causing it, how the fuck is SUf causing it :< |
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| 20:17.14 | Shadowed | what did Blizzard change this time |
| 20:17.43 | Zeksie | same as raidN is not in your party i'd wager. not a new thing entirely |
| 20:18.15 | Shadowed | It's not a SendChatMessage or a SendAddonMessae issue |
| 20:18.17 | Shadowed | message* |
| 20:18.57 | Zeksie | no. cos those have a longer msg |
| 20:19.17 | sylvanaar | i believe it |
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| 20:19.34 | sylvanaar | i get this error when i click cast off my unitframes |
| 20:19.58 | sylvanaar | *cough* |
| 20:19.59 | Zeksie | oh. only time i've seen it is when zoning to/from instances |
| 20:20.14 | sylvanaar | looks at Zeksie |
| 20:20.45 | Zeksie | blinks |
| 20:20.50 | Fisker | butts |
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| 20:21.05 | sylvanaar | no, let me tell you...its every single cast generating one of those messages |
| 20:21.57 | Repo | 10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): small tweaks |
| 20:22.00 | sylvanaar | when it does happen at least - it happens when i am spam healing someone |
| 20:22.34 | Fisker | but butts? |
| 20:22.53 | Zeksie | nah. never had that. only ever seen when zoning. nothing to do wuth casting |
| 20:22.59 | Shadowed | mmmm |
| 20:23.07 | yoshimo | shadowed it also seems to happen without suf |
| 20:23.13 | Shadowed | yea it's an API change I think |
| 20:23.14 | Shadowed | tracking it down |
| 20:23.29 | Zeksie | let us know if you nail it. been bugging me |
| 20:24.20 | Shadowed | yea will in a sec |
| 20:24.24 | Shadowed | trying to remember what mods I had enabled now |
| 20:24.28 | yoshimo | now we only need to know what they changed |
| 20:25.18 | Shefki | I haven't seen any of those sorts of messages. /shrug |
| 20:26.18 | Zeksie | i don't get it on all characters, or all the time |
| 20:26.18 | Zeksie | but when it starts, it's persistant |
| 20:26.52 | Hjalte | Ow, I can't see Release notes of latest CC4 client. |
| 20:28.08 | Shadowed | Bingo |
| 20:28.10 | Shadowed | Blizzards stupid |
| 20:28.22 | Zeksie | go on :) |
| 20:28.38 | Shadowed | GetPartyAssignment will now trigger blah is not in your party if called on a unit that is not in your party |
| 20:29.16 | Fisker | yo Shadowed |
| 20:29.25 | Shadowed | glares at Fisker |
| 20:29.25 | Fisker | i'm really happy for you and all and imma let you finish.. |
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| 20:30.11 | Shadowed | glareeeee |
| 20:31.18 | Shadowed | UnitPlayerOrPetInRaid should do the trick |
| 20:31.25 | Shadowed | since you can't set MA/MT in parties |
| 20:32.02 | Zeksie | dunno. could be that. but i've been getting it for 'raid1 is not in your party' all the way down to 'raidN' |
| 20:32.25 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 20:32.29 | Zeksie | gonna try and reproduce now and confirm |
| 20:32.47 | Shadowed | I don't have access to a raid right now I can get in |
| 20:32.54 | Xtek | Hjalte: Try updating to 712. |
| 20:33.05 | Shadowed | I wonder if blizzard changed how they use it in the source |
| 20:33.18 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.26 | Shadowed | the "target is not in your party" errors |
| 20:33.37 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 20:33.46 | asmodai | I wonder if Mapster needs fixes or some of the addons that use Mapster |
| 20:33.51 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 20:33.54 | Shadowed | ~framexml |
| 20:33.54 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 20:35.05 | Shadowed | why do I have to install Rosetta to run the stupid addon kit |
| 20:35.06 | Shadowed | stupid macs |
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| 20:35.37 | Fisker | i want you |
| 20:35.45 | Zeksie | yep Shadowed. Same problem with valid raid and party units. GetPartyAssignment called too early bails out with that |
| 20:35.54 | Zeksie | after zoning |
| 20:36.06 | Shadowed | "too early"? |
| 20:36.10 | Zeksie | yes |
| 20:36.18 | Shadowed | what's that defined as |
| 20:36.18 | Zeksie | i /dump it a few secs later and it's fine |
| 20:36.26 | Zeksie | well, when PEW is fired |
| 20:36.26 | Shadowed | ugh |
| 20:36.33 | Shadowed | Why do they keep changing these stupid APIs :< |
| 20:36.35 | asmodai | So someone cast the Rallying Cry of the Dragonslayer. And my companion pet got the buff XD |
| 20:36.39 | Zeksie | i know :| |
| 20:36.39 | nicoli_s | fisker wheres muh sc2 |
| 20:37.05 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 20:37.39 | Shadowed | I wonder if we are supposed to use GetRaidRoster now Zeksie? |
| 20:37.51 | Shadowed | er GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 20:37.57 | yoshimo | what does PEW stand for? |
| 20:38.01 | Shadowed | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD |
| 20:38.28 | Zeksie | well. i'd say if the func is still there, then it should bloody well work. |
| 20:38.41 | Shadowed | yes |
| 20:38.44 | Shadowed | But, it's not working :< |
| 20:38.58 | Zeksie | yeh. gonna play with it ina bit after this group |
| 20:40.21 | Shadowed | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20131893619&postId=200516339900&sid=1#0 |
| 20:41.11 | Shadowed | silly bug though since there's no simple way to map roster to unit for non-raid units |
| 20:42.42 | Zeksie | nope |
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| 20:53.52 | Repo | 10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r5 calendar.lua: option to detach from minimap |
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| 20:59.42 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r97 SellJunk.toc: tweaked toc |
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| 21:12.32 | Tactician2 | anyone know of an addon that is something along the lines of a simple window that will pop up using a certain /command that you can just populate with any type of text you want? |
| 21:12.59 | Tactician2 | i want a pop-up containing a ist of pigments and what herbs are milled to make them but viewable while in game |
| 21:14.09 | rubik | like a notepad type addon you mean? |
| 21:14.32 | Tactician2 | i suppose that would work as long as the text was saved forever |
| 21:15.03 | Tactician2 | i was about to make an addon where you could type /pigment and get the list , but was wondering if there was something like that 1st |
| 21:15.38 | rubik | there's TinyPad: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info4417-TinyPad.html |
| 21:16.31 | Tactician2 | ah i think this one will be close enough http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/snoofs-pigments.aspx if not ill just get that notepad, thx |
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| 21:20.24 | Zeksie | Shadowed: yeh, added a check for UnitInRaid/Party around the GetPartyAssignment and it stops spamming. Surprised wow works sometimes.. |
| 21:23.03 | sb|work | yay |
| 21:23.20 | sb|work | i died as priest because i taunted anub'arak after burrow, yay |
| 21:23.22 | sb|work | :( |
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| 21:45.18 | Fisker | slaps sb|work around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:55.43 | Fisker | Balnazzar defects to the forsaken! |
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| 21:59.44 | profalbert | anyone else having an issue with git-repos on wowace? |
| 22:00.07 | profalbert | I can't push/pull anything |
| 22:00.58 | Shadowed | Zeksie: That works :< |
| 22:01.37 | Fisker | but balnazzar is defecting to the forsaken :( |
| 22:02.03 | Shadowed | forgot about the UnitInBlah checks |
| 22:02.10 | steev | holy shit |
| 22:02.16 | steev | im still reading this dk qq thread on the eu forums |
| 22:02.20 | steev | i thought the US was bad |
| 22:03.04 | Xtek | You must be a slow reader. |
| 22:03.04 | Shefki | Was it my imagination or didn't a blue say they were adding some sort of combat log event for absorbs at some point? |
| 22:03.16 | Zeksie | Shadowed: yeh, this is in template header generated unit ids for me. all valid raid/party members, which during zoning, are not in in raid/group :) |
| 22:03.32 | Shadowed | weird |
| 22:03.37 | Shadowed | that works |
| 22:03.49 | Shadowed | Shefki: The combat log event was updated to have an absorb field, but it was never used |
| 22:03.55 | Shadowed | this was with 3.2 |
| 22:04.13 | Shefki | Ugh that explains why I can't find the info |
| 22:04.29 | Shadowed | only place that references it is the code I want to say |
| 22:05.17 | steev | Xtek: im at work |
| 22:05.23 | steev | so i don't get to read it constantly |
| 22:06.01 | Xtek | Uh huh. A likely excuse. |
| 22:09.26 | rubik | spkeaing of which... http://productiveblog.tumblr.com/http://productiveblog.tumblr.com/ |
| 22:09.40 | rubik | err.. trigger happy with the paste there, sorry |
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| 22:23.09 | sb|work | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/zxE1qkFpq4WL9MVo/details/1/?s=231&e=615 <-- Stanzilla, NeoTron :p |
| 22:24.25 | sb|work | (damage by spells) |
| 22:27.02 | Tentacled | Hmm. Is the <TitleRegion> broken, or what? I set up one for a frame, and now that I drag it, the frame drags without firing and OnDragStart/Stop events - but I cannot assign any for the TitleRegion, either! So, either TitleRegion or events? |
| 22:33.14 | Aeyan | Somebody got their smite on |
| 22:37.02 | sb|work | Aeyan: mh? |
| 22:37.34 | Aeyan | In your log |
| 22:37.40 | Aeyan | Someone got their smite on, clearly |
| 22:38.38 | Aeyan | I just laugh because I play a disc priest and my guild jumps on me from time for DPSing when I'm bored =P |
| 22:52.31 | Kaelten | are people seeint a white 500 error page or a puppy on wowace atm? |
| 22:53.12 | Stanzilla | standard 500 |
| 23:02.05 | Nechckn | Kaelten getting a server error when trying to reply to comments on Curse itself |
| 23:02.29 | Nechckn | and, yeah... evil for Wowace ;-) |
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| 23:03.02 | Nechckn | I keep trying to feed him, but the raw meat is just piling up on my keyboard! |
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| 23:03.50 | Kaelten | should be a puppy on wowace now |
| 23:04.05 | Kaelten | Nechckn: I've seen that sometimes too, but trying again will normally fix, at least it has in the past |
| 23:04.25 | Nechckn | yeah... and he won't eat the food! |
| 23:04.45 | Nechckn | as for the Curse thing.. I'll try later. Have a bunch of times with no luck. |
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| 23:19.20 | Fisker | slaps Kaelten around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:19.50 | Aeyan | http://www.wowace.com/projects/ has exploded. |
| 23:20.49 | Shefki | wowace runs on spare cpu cycles from the wow instance servers. |
| 23:21.02 | Shefki | Which are now overloaded. Please standby until people get board and log out. |
| 23:21.24 | Fisker | slaps Shefki around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:24.51 | Zeksie | Shadowed: so, had the errors again after adding that change. but it was only for raid6-9 (4 ppl in my group). so obviously UnitInParty works at that point, but UnitInRaid does not.. |
| 23:25.00 | Shadowed | wheeeee |
| 23:25.44 | *** part/#wowace profalbert (n=profalbe@188.23.36.138) |
| 23:25.57 | Tentacled | Hm. Any idea how I could force a frame's dragstart event to truly fire, so that a dragstop event fires upon mouseup..? I have to change a frame's parent while it's being dragged, and for that I seem to need to stop and restart dragging it somehow... |
| 23:26.23 | NeoTron | Shefki: heh.. perhaps a ... queue is needed |
| 23:27.06 | Shefki | Great idea. I'll pass out post it notes with your number on them. Please form a line up. After receiving your post it note place it on your forehead. |
| 23:27.24 | Shefki | gives himself #1 |
| 23:27.43 | Zeksie | Tentacled: you don't have to StartMoving on the frame that the mouse clicks. if that's your problem? |
| 23:29.02 | Tentacled | I startmoving it in its dragstart event, that's good. I then do something that must change the frame's parent, and if I do that while it's being dragged, WoW may even crash. So, I frame:StopMovingOrSizing(), :SetParent(...), and... and even if I StartMoving() it again, there's no OnDragStop event firing anymore that would properly StopMovingOrSizing(). |
| 23:29.45 | ArrowmasterClass | why are you doing startmoving in a dragstart? |
| 23:29.59 | Tentacled | where else? in a mousedown? |
| 23:30.03 | ArrowmasterClass | yes |
| 23:30.13 | ArrowmasterClass | dragstart does stuff on its own |
| 23:30.14 | Tentacled | and manually check for the distance it's dragged initially..? |
| 23:30.35 | Tentacled | before it actually budges from place, which is my desired effect |
| 23:30.57 | Zeksie | you could use a dummy frame for your dragging, and anchor your visual frame to that. |
| 23:31.00 | Tentacled | hmm, I could start moving in a dragstart and stop in a mouseup, I guess... |
| 23:31.07 | ArrowmasterClass | dragable frames do all that on their own |
| 23:31.24 | Tentacled | All that, except allowing themselves to be transparently reparented. |
| 23:31.27 | tem | not really, Arrowmaster |
| 23:31.55 | Tentacled | trans-parently, ouch, bad pun. |
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| 23:38.26 | Tentacled | Well, one conclusion. If a frame gets reparented or hidden/shown after or while MouseDown was firing, it will not receive the corresponding MouseUp event. |
| 23:39.53 | Zeksie | yeh, i'd go with the dummy frame and then you can do what you like with your real frames, just tag them onto the corner of your dragging frame |
| 23:41.50 | Tentacled | Hmm, well, I guess I could do that, with the dummy frame free as a bird... |
| 23:42.38 | Zeksie | yeh, you won't be messing with it, or reparenting etc. and you can do what you like with anything you anchor to it |
| 23:42.40 | Tentacled | all that crap is for a "docking" system - a frame may be dragged off its parent, and the parent may be hidden while the frame is being dragged around |
| 23:42.56 | Tentacled | No no, eventually I will be reparenting it, as the child has to move with the parent when it's docked |
| 23:43.16 | Zeksie | by 'it' i meant the dummy |
| 23:43.22 | Tentacled | ah yeah. |
| 23:43.36 | Zeksie | anyway. bed time! nite :) |
| 23:43.41 | Tentacled | nitey. |
| 23:43.45 | Tentacled | bedbugs and stuff. |
| 23:50.35 | sb|work | Aeyan: well - of course i do dps on some stunned icehowl :o |
| 23:50.37 | sb|work | what else to do |
| 23:50.57 | sb|work | but thats not the point of that log, its the explosive shot, lightning bolt etc. ;) |
