IRC log for #wowace on 20091027

00:00.14Axodiousill have 25 man in a bit
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00:04.24Primerhe enrage?
00:04.43Primerpretty short enrage timer...seems things were going well
00:06.20Groktarwww.guild-impulse.net/WoWCombatLog_festergut_10-26-09_10 man.rar
00:06.23Groktarthere's a 10m version
00:08.02Axodious5 minutes
00:08.03Axodiousin 25
00:08.04Axodiousit seems
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00:10.12PrimerSkellum: btw, what's NRB?
00:10.43Groktarer, bad link. www.guild-impulse.net/WoWCombatLog_festergut_10-26-09_10m.rar
00:11.28Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r48 / (3 files in 1 directory): +AceConsole-3.0
00:11.52Ingelais that your car Groktar
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00:49.58Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r49 Ailo.lua:
00:50.00RepoVersion number for the db structure, WipeDB() if the version is increased.
00:50.30Repo10transcriptor: 03Rabbit * r118 Transcriptor.lua:
00:50.32RepoPrint a note that the player should stop+re-start transcriptor between wipes/bosskills.
00:52.27NeoTronwtb transcriptor handling encounters itself :P
00:53.27vhaarryou fix :P
00:53.55NivFreakwas it DXE that did that?
00:54.16NivFreaksomething I was looking at this week would hook transcriptor and start/stop it if you asked it to
00:54.51NeoTronmagic dkp starts stuff but it doesn't, keep track of stops
00:55.14NeoTronI initially intended to make it auto-record wipes but then I stopped tracking wipes and suddently it wasn't interesting anymore :P
00:55.16yoshimoits just a guess but could it have been loggerhead?
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00:58.03Groktardevours transcriptor's soul
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00:59.07yoshimopoor transcriptor
01:00.19Groktarbut my belly is full, so it's all good
01:07.00vhaarrckknight: why am I not in the maintainer list for babble-boss-3.0, really? during vanilla and TBC I must've added more boss entries to -2.0 and -2.2 babbles than anyone, and I think I also ported the library from 2.0 to 2.2 at some point
01:07.19vhaarrI keep having to poke nevcairiel about adding things, but now that I think about it, I don't see why I should have to wait for him
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01:09.18vhaarranyway bedtime
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01:28.40Axodious@project loggerhead
01:28.41RepoAxodious: http://www.wowace.com/addons/loggerhead/. LoggerHead. Game: WoW. rsmozang (Manager/Author). Updated: 31 days ago. Tickets: 5/15
01:32.18Repo10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r11 / (2 files in 2 directories): Daily Quest icon color
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01:40.30Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha4-43-g618071f Frame.lua: [+4 commits]
01:40.32Repo618071f: Fixed typo: Disalbe --> Disable.
01:40.33Repo1a0a0ef: Changed "Winterspring" to "Wintersaber Trainers".
01:40.35Repo45327f2: Changed "Bloodsail" to "Bloodsail Buccaneers".
01:40.36Repof88efe1: In InitializeFrame(): Changed "Darkspear" to "Darkspear Trolls".
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01:58.46Groktarnibbles on ckknight
01:58.54ckknighto noes
02:00.04Groktarso if i apply for the php developer position, who should i address my email to.  person, not the email address >.>
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02:31.54Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Alpha4-46-gb3e29d8 Collectinator.lua: [+3 commits]
02:31.55Repob3e29d8: Added missing pet detection to addon:GetWarcraftPets() - if a known pet is missing from the table map, print a message.
02:31.56Repo8794d21: Changed the scan button's OnClick to reflect the changes in addon:Scan()
02:31.58Repo785e258: In addon:Scan(): Change textdump back to a boolean, and use scantype to determine whether or not to dump a warcraftpets.com string.
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02:49.14Repo10grid: 03Greltok * r1223 .pkgmeta:
02:49.15RepoPull latest tag of LibHealComm-4.0 and LibWrapperHealComm-1.0.
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06:23.13Axodious@describe pitbull4_anubarak
06:23.14RepoAxodious: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_anubarak/. PitBull4_Anubarak. Indicator module for the Penetrating Cold debuff on Anub'arak. The Penetrating Cold targets need to be healed in a very timel...
06:30.27Repo10pitbull4_jaraxxus: 03Shefki 07master * v1.0.1 Localization/zhTW.lua: [+1 commit] Fix namespace error in the zhTW locale file.
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07:14.31RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/guildchatflash/. GuildChatFlash. DaveErig (Manager/Author). Experimental. Approved by Torhal.
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08:04.06mitch0dumdidum
08:06.27Torhalmitch0: Damn you.
08:06.34Torhal:D
08:06.49mitch0what did I do now?
08:06.50TorhalI just ditched DockingStation.
08:06.54mitch0hehe :)
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08:07.06mitch0Bazooka?
08:07.10TorhalAnd now I want to hack Bazooka because it is better and still needs stuff :)
08:07.14TorhalHehehe
08:07.19mitch0what does it need?
08:07.40mitch0just file a ticket... I got one month to hack on it due to fisker lameness...
08:07.51TorhalYou have dock-to-top/bottom, but I want dock-to-frame#-top/bottom
08:08.00TorhalFisker lameness?
08:08.24TorhalAnd I dig the left-center-right concept, but wonder why it's confined to the center panel.
08:08.28mitch0yeah, asked him to test something, said it didn't work when in fact in did, but I had to re-subscribe to test :)
08:08.42TorhalAh, you quit playing?
08:08.46mitch0mostly
08:09.05ShefkiYou can't quit.
08:09.10mitch0spent the last couple of months as a ghost on one of my alts :)
08:09.10ShefkiThe monster sucks you in.
08:09.13TorhalEh, I "quit" for about 6 months. Mostly did /reloadui but gathered and used AH
08:09.34TorhalStarted actually playing again around Hallow's End start
08:09.35mitch0torhal: what do you mean by "dock-to-frame#" ?
08:09.44mitch0torhal: bazooka bar or some random frame?
08:09.52TorhalBar2 - dock to Bar1's bottom
08:10.02mitch0well, you can achive that
08:10.04TorhalPositioning can be a pain in the arse
08:10.17TorhalI could ClearAllPoints() and do it that way, but meh
08:10.20mitch0yeah, but you need to get that right only once :)
08:10.33TorhalI'm not the average user.
08:10.35Torhal:D
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08:10.53mitch0erm, just set tweak top position to bar height?
08:11.08TorhalEh, uniformity man.
08:11.25mitch0torhal: doing the attach to bar thing is like hard
08:11.25Aeyan|Maybe I'll have to give Bazooka a try
08:11.47mitch0with all the bloody bookkeeping if the attach-to-bar dies and stuff
08:11.59TorhalYou're able to assign plugins to bars, so I don't see why anchoring would be any different code-wise
08:12.03TorhalAh
08:12.26mitch0it'd also mess things when you drag the bars
08:12.42mitch0all-in-all, it's more trouble than it's worth, imo
08:12.42TorhalDepends on how it's done :)
08:12.45TorhalHehe
08:12.56mitch0clean patches might get applied :)
08:13.13mitch0so, back to the other one, what do you mean "confined to the center panel" ?
08:13.26Torhalnods.
08:13.33TorhalOh, you have center-panel: left, center, right
08:13.37TorhalNo equivalent for left or right panels
08:13.53mitch0what'd be the point?
08:14.15mitch0left grows from left to right, right the reverse
08:14.34mitch0or I still don't understand
08:14.54mitch0you have 5 areas: [left]        [center-left][center][center-right]     [right]
08:15.13TorhalI'm not sure there is anything to understand. I saw the lack for those two panels and wondered why, and wondered if things could be "columnized" differently if they were there
08:15.25TorhalBut you're probably right - unnecessary
08:15.49TorhalCreating a bar wipes the plugin list, BTW
08:15.53TorhalUntil reload
08:16.11mitch0huh? in the options?
08:16.16TorhalYah.
08:16.26mitch0strange. will check.
08:16.54TorhalI use three bars, and each time I made a new bar it did it
08:16.57mitch0could be some aceconfig issue, as I don't even touch the plugin list when creating bars
08:17.04TorhalMayhap
08:17.19mitch0ammo committed stuff to it lately, so ...
08:17.22mitch0:P
08:17.29TorhalHehe
08:17.56mitch0torhal: do you use the highlight btw?
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08:18.15TorhalI've no clue what that means :)
08:18.26TorhalThe drag highlight?
08:18.29TorhalI like that
08:18.51mitch0no, the mouse-over highlight
08:18.56mitch0when you hoover over plugins
08:19.12mitch0(the drag highlight cannot be turned off, the hoover one can)
08:19.19TorhalAh, yah. I thought that was for dragging, since I'm still not locked
08:19.32TorhalI have it enabled,
08:20.05mitch0just wondering if it would make sense to make it adjustable. right now I find it a bit too obtrusive, but I don't want to disable it, thinking an opacity setting would help
08:20.35TorhalColor setting mayhap.
08:20.56TorhalCould set it to be closer to your bar's color so it's not as jarring
08:21.20TorhalBut alpha would work as well
08:21.22sztanpeti hate everything hilight, cant disable hilighting in grid2 either ;(
08:21.42Torhalsztanpet: You can turn it off in Bazooka
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08:22.16sztanpetim just not seeing the point of it i guess
08:22.18sztanpetTorhal nice
08:22.42Torhalmitch0: Ah, yah - missing global options. If I decide that I'd rather have my plugin icons be size 14 or the font to be 10, or the color to be different, I have to change these things on a per-bar basis
08:22.58mitch0yes
08:23.00mitch0:P
08:23.18TorhalHehe
08:23.27mitch0I planned to do a "use this as default" button, but it got lost somewhere :)
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08:26.01mitch0also, I couldn't decide what options should be carried over (only plugin related, or also the border/background, etc)
08:26.42TorhalTwo default sections? Plugins/Bars
08:27.00TorhalNot that I know the underlying architecture...
08:27.02TorhalHeh
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08:27.22mitch0well, it's the same as you see on the config panel
08:27.38mitch0plugins fetch those from their container bars
08:27.59mitch0(like font/color/icon-text-spacing)
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08:28.29mitch0but two buttons could do it
08:30.57mitch0torhal: do you mind opening a ticket for the wiped plugins list? if not I'll open myself, but I kinda hate opening tickets for myself :)
08:31.19TorhalI'll do it
08:31.24mitch0thanks
08:31.40mitch0you could open one for the "global settings", too while you're at it :)
08:31.47Torhal...
08:31.57mitch0ok, don't open one for that then :)
08:32.00TorhalI just did it so I could be sure I had the steps down...
08:32.05TorhalAnd it didn't wipe them
08:32.12Torhal/facepalms
08:32.23mitch0did you update ace3 in the meantime?
08:32.45TorhalNo, I haven;t logged out.
08:33.23mitch0erm. ok, there are 2 code-paths: 1) create bloody new bar (never before there), and 2) delete bar, create new bar (old one will be reused)
08:33.30mitch0try both, maybe only one of them is borked
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08:35.04mitch0also, plugins on a deleted bar will get disabled (afaik), colored red -> thus placed at the end of the plugins list. wasn't that what was happening?
08:35.54TorhalNo, the list was empty as if I had no plugins
08:35.59TorhalI can't reproduce it now
08:36.02Torhalboggles.
08:36.06Repo10big-wigs: 03Ammo * r6679 Plugins/Colors.lua:
08:36.07mitch0hm
08:36.08Reposhould not be happening normally. but guard against comparing colors not being tables anyway
08:36.33mitch0well, I'll assume PEBKAC for now
08:36.45TorhalGood deal.
08:37.02TorhalBut if you can think of a way a user can make the plugins go invisible...:D
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08:37.20mitch0from the list? no
08:37.24TorhalHehe
08:37.44TorhalThough, I no longer have DS loaded and I did when it happened...
08:37.50TorhalMaybe display interaction issue.
08:38.04mitch0shouldn't happen. I stay away from globals...
08:38.20mitch0and I don't think DS includes code to break bazooka intentionally :)
08:38.30TorhalNot intentionally, no.
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08:43.04mitch0erm, no. double-checked, plugins should not get lost from that list.
08:43.20mitch0*shrug*
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08:46.41TorhalNo clue.
08:47.02TorhalBut I distinctly remember reloading my UI twice because they were gone :)
08:47.29mitch0I'll try installing DS and see if that breaks it (would be surprised if it did though...)
08:49.41mitch0torhal: about the ticket (thanks, btw): are you sure you'd want to apply a global width to all bars?
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08:54.42TorhalI would, personally. But you should be able to override globals, of course.
08:55.53mitch0erm, it'll work in a different way
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08:56.25mitch0the settings while running won't be hierachical, rather you'd have an option to override the settings of all (or selected) bars/plugins
08:56.37mitch0s/badspelling/goodspelling/
08:56.45mitch0does that make sense?
08:57.08mitch0(I don't want to introduce inefficiencies during "standard" operation)
08:58.14TorhalYah, having exclusions could be useful.
08:59.13mitch0maybe a checkbox before each option... will look fugly, but at least it would be flexible :)
09:00.23TorhalAye
09:01.22mitch0alright, will think about it. unfortunately now I have to work on some boring stuff that have closer deadlines :(
09:01.30TorhalEww
09:01.32Torhal:D
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09:32.32mitch0btw, I saw yesterday a commit to bump toc to 30300. is the patch out or something?
09:33.05ShefkiNo
09:33.16Torhalmitch0: Ackis was "bored"
09:33.22Torhalslaps him anyway.
09:33.23mitch0eh, ok ;)
09:35.07yoshimomitch0, the encounters arent tested properly yet ;)
09:37.12mitch0my only encounters are with random rogues and the spirit healer :)
09:41.14yoshimoi dont like the spirit healer
09:42.07mitch0yeah, she's evil. breaks my stuff. but I outsmarted her: all my gear is 100% broken now, take that bitch! :P
09:47.16yoshimoi sometimes have 2 boxes with "accept" for rezzing at the spirithealer in battlegrounds, how can that happen?
09:47.41mitch0when you died close to it
09:48.03Kalrothone is for your corpse, other is for the spirit healer
09:48.13mitch0one is for the spirit healer rez, the other is for the standard corpse-run rez
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09:53.22yoshimoso i get them if the alliance is graveyard camping...
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10:17.25Repo10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r18 calendar.lua: fixed lame error
10:23.11Repo10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.12 * r50 :
10:23.13RepoTagging as 1.0.12, fixes errors caused by data from older versions in the db
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11:22.35evlDoes any event fire when temporary weapon enchants change?
11:23.03profalbertsome combatlog-event
11:23.20evlnvm, didn't read the fine print on UNIT_INV_CHANGED
11:24.11evlAnything wrong with calling frame:RegisterEvent() several times with the same event type?
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11:27.17Repo10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r6680 Plugins/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update
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11:51.15Repo10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny * r19 calendar.lua: apparently you cant compare nil to number :S
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12:10.48Repo10big-wigs: 03Swix * r6681 Coliseum/Locales/ruRU.lua: Coliseum ruRU cleanup
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13:12.07steevNivFreak: which obvious troll? (i was afk)
13:12.12steevhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReczpUDAd80
13:17.37jnwhitehHey, would someone say something in this channel for me?
13:18.00jnwhitehhrm, it doesn't appear that my active window detectionw orks =/.
13:19.10steevjnwhiteh: why not?
13:19.37asmodaijnwhiteh: BOO
13:19.54jnwhitehJust trying to get an IRSSI script written
13:19.59jnwhitehand its not quite working =)
13:20.04jnwhitehignore me :P
13:20.19ckknight~ignore jnwhiteh
13:20.20purlACTION sticks her fingers in her ears.  "La, la, la!  I can't hear you, jnwhiteh!"
13:20.34jnwhitehi'm just a kiddie scripter anyway =/
13:20.39jnwhitehwhat do I know.
13:20.44jnwhitehthis just proves his point!!
13:20.46asmodaiExactly.
13:20.50asmodaiBack to your sandbox.
13:26.40asmodaijnwhiteh: Trying to make irssi switch windows upon nick highlighting?
13:26.49jnwhitehasmodai: no, not at all
13:27.03jnwhitehLimechat has an amazing window that shows you all activity in channels you aren't current in.
13:27.12jnwhitehIm' trying to write an IRSSI script that will do the same
13:27.27jnwhitehI'm just having issues finding just what an "active" window entails tho =)
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13:29.12asmodaiIt multiplexes all content of the various non-active channels into one window?
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13:29.43jnwhitehasmodai: yes
13:29.47sylvanaaryeah, thats a confusing term active
13:29.50jnwhitehand its the best thing evar invented =)
13:29.56sylvanaarsince its a window
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13:30.20jnwhitehsylvanaar: well the terminology with containers, windows, etc. is a bit confusing.
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13:31.10Fiskerslaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout
13:31.24sylvanaari swear Fisker is a bot
13:31.31sylvanaarat least sometimes
13:31.48ckknightFiskers sylvanaar around a bit with a large Fisker
13:32.59Fiskerno i'm not
13:33.07FiskerWhat other non-captcha based proof do you want?
13:33.19jnwhitehhrm
13:33.37sylvanaaryou are a cyborg
13:33.39sylvanaarthats it
13:33.47sylvanaarhalf man half machine
13:34.39sylvanaaranyways, im just kidding Fisker
13:35.09ckknighthttp://img.4chan.org/b/src/1256650303055.jpg
13:36.01sylvanaarit would be much funnier if you reversed the before and after pics
13:36.51sylvanaarthe overdose part is still funny
13:37.02FiskerIt would be much funnier if you put a frame around it that said "The main difference between USA and Europe"
13:37.12Fisker(Pro-tip: Europe would be the businessman)
13:38.46sylvanaari didnt think alot of the original eu countries even had homeless
13:39.26sylvanaarso - both pics would be the business man
13:40.17Fiskerno!
13:40.19sylvanaarused marijuana - thats great
13:40.21ckknightshakes fist at the homeless
13:40.37Fiskeryou know who's stupid ckknight ?
13:40.48ckknightyou?
13:40.52Fiskernaw
13:40.54Fiskeryour mother
13:40.56FiskerBut srsly
13:41.00FiskerWMP is stupid :(
13:41.10Fiskeri had my harddrive unplugged
13:41.11ckknightthat's a thing, not a person
13:41.12sylvanaaris WMP a person
13:41.15Fiskerand it has all my movies etc.
13:41.19sylvanaaroh - ckknight was too fast
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13:41.27Fiskerold ckknight i was obvioustrolling
13:41.29Fiskeranyways
13:41.36Fiskerit wouldn't detect my harddrive was back :(
13:41.38Fiskerso i had to reboot
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13:42.10sylvanaarwaits for the rest
13:45.19Brunersi need help solving a ticket :S
13:45.44Bruners@ticket bcd 1
13:45.47RepoBruners: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/bcd/tickets/1 - Repeating purchase of items other than the desired item. Reported by: columnFive. Type: Defect. Updated: 13 hours ago. Status: New. Priority: Medium. Assignee: Bruners. Votes: 0. Comments: 1
13:46.48Wobinsteev, my god. that was ... brilliant
13:46.57Wobina lot of jokes from the first one
13:47.05Wobinbut the Taurenformers joke will never get tired
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13:49.08WobinI totally want the autobull or deceptitauren symbol as an icon
13:49.26steevyah
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14:41.44Repo10timetodie: 03Mecdemort * r87 TimeToDie.lua: Minor tweaks to formulae
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14:45.03Repo10timetodie: 03Mecdemort 04v1.1 * r88 : Tagging as v1.1
14:45.05RepoSelectable time formats.
14:45.06RepoTwo new calculation methods to choose from.
14:46.11Repo10little-wigs: 03ulic * r673 Dalaran/Cyanigosa.lua: Change blizzard to just warn if it's on the player.
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15:34.51Ackispenis
15:34.54Ackisare you happy pompy?
15:36.18pompyAckis: sicko
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16:03.50yoshimoevery now and then when i play on the testrealm my screen turns black and vista tells me that the graphic driver had problems and was restarted, is it the driver, the card or wow?
16:04.04Repo10collectinator: 03Ackis 07master * Alpha4-48-ga6dcfb2 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
16:04.04Repoa6dcfb2: Add exclusion filtering around stuff back in.
16:04.04Repo7fc87a9: Update the player data table definition comment and add a couple more vars to deal with excluded items.
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16:08.02Gnarfozone of the former two
16:09.36yoshimothey changed something with the graphicengine in 3.3
16:10.19mitch0in any case, nothing user-space should b0rk the graphics driver/card
16:11.58yoshimoill downgrade to an older version, maybe that helps. if not, the pc was bought 1month ago....
16:15.36FtH|DaemonaShadowed is there a version of SUF that works on the ptr?
16:15.59yoshimoyes
16:16.21nevcairielPTRs broke UFs?
16:16.24nevcairielmine worked
16:16.26yoshimoyou could download it from github http://github.com/Shadowed/ShadowedUnitFrames/commits/master
16:16.41yoshimosuf was broken nev, but its fixed already
16:18.37yoshimonevcairiel, did you get my message earlier?
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16:20.13FtH|Daemonauuh i still get errors yoshimo if i download the latest master from that link
16:21.00FtH|Daemonahttp://ace.pastey.net/127298
16:21.56yoshimoi didnt see any during rotface and the broken gunship encounter. might be lucky then
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16:23.54sb|workwhats gunshit anyways?
16:24.02stolenlegacyyoshimo: how exactly was it bugged, anyways?
16:24.05sb|worksounds like some vehicle thingie to me...
16:24.34yoshimothe server crashed and you were kicked from the server
16:29.22yoshimosb|work , the 2 ships which are flying over icecrown meet in the air, and you can use cannons&ranged dd to hit npcs on the other boat. i think if you get them down you can enter the ship and fight more, but as i said servers werent stable enough to see more
16:29.48sb|workmhh i see
16:29.58sb|workso its alliance vs. horde again
16:30.41steevalliance rules
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16:32.01sb|worksteev: stop fiskering!
16:32.26steevdon't make me get out my druid named elitekilla and pwn you in arena iwth my 3k rating
16:32.48Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.2 CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] update changelog
16:32.55Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.2 * 00ae6e0 /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.2
16:34.15Repo10querier: 03Ackis 07master * 1.81-7-g1b430bd Querier.lua: [+1 commit] Updates requested by POMPY.
16:35.06yoshimosteev, i dont think that , "for the horde!" ;)
16:35.22steevyoshimo: shhh
16:35.25steevim trolling
16:35.42steevor tryin anyway
16:41.42Pneumatusnevcairiel: PTR changed a lot of frame names etc
16:41.51Pneumatuslike ToT frames have been re-worked with new names etc
16:44.09yoshimothey introduced additional frames
16:44.32Pneumatusthey have introduced some boss frames
16:44.46PneumatusBoss[1-4]TargetFrame
16:45.17Pneumatusfocusframe is now just another targetframe as well
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16:51.10Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2600 RecipeDB/ARL-Cook.lua: added some more missing flags in the cooking db
16:51.13MysticalOSthe biggest change i saw was dropping isframetype and getframetype, they are depreciated for objecttype now
16:51.20GrumPneumatus: is that to track what boss has what target orso? O.o
16:51.48ArrowmasterClassits arena targets for boss fights
16:52.20ArrowmasterClassmaybe they will enable it for all boss fights and a simple UnitExists("boss1") will let you see if you are fighting a boss
16:53.49Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2601 ARLDatamine.lua: Fixed the special case Off-hand check.
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16:55.55yoshimowe will see what they use it for
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17:14.28Groktar~rlart
17:14.29purlsays "boot to the head" and knocks ^Tempest over
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17:25.59Repoadd/remove missing/incorrect trainer data for Meilosh, in the tailoring database.
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18:16.36Groktarsighs
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18:24.46steevblizz should add coords to the game
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18:31.32nevcairielwe have coords?
18:32.01profalbertI guess to the default-interface
18:32.37profalbertit's pretty annoying when somebody asks "where is whatever", you answer "42,31", and then he says "don't have coords"
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18:38.36asmodaiAnd when they add coords, pray they make them floats :P
18:42.27yoshimohow about x,y,and z axis?
18:42.44ShefkiThey won't give us z.
18:42.52ShefkiWe've asked for it.  They've specficially declined it.
18:44.05yoshimoi prefer unitaura returning spellid anyway , who need z axis...
18:44.27ShefkiHonestly, doubt we'll get that either.
18:45.01yoshimoat least they didnt say "NO" , did they?
18:45.07ShefkiThat's true.
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18:59.31Funkeh`Stanzilla, dx11 not on auto?
19:00.00StanzillaFunkeh`: dunno :O
19:00.53Funkeh`I dont see 11 downloadable anywhere for vista
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19:04.38kadrahilwell blizzard is about to make another 19287321 billion dollars
19:04.56Groktarsteals them
19:05.02kadrahilpaid race change went live
19:05.29Groktarstupid anub'arak
19:05.51Groktari can't switch from nelf to gnome because i need the 2% miss for unhittable
19:05.58kadrahilare you wiping to P3
19:06.00kadrahillike us
19:06.04kadrahilon 25man heroic?
19:06.08Groktarkilled it 3 times
19:06.11kadrahiloh
19:06.13kadrahil:S
19:06.30kadrahilwe've had the problem of not having the same raid group from one day to the next for the last... month
19:06.34Groktar:/
19:06.35kadrahilwe've been on him for 5 weeks
19:06.41Groktarthat's going to make it hard
19:06.45kadrahilyeah
19:06.55kadrahilwasting 4 hours worth of attempts because we're short a few main raiders
19:07.03Groktarwe really don't switch anyone out
19:07.05kadrahilwe have no problem making it to anub with 45+ attempts left
19:07.20kadrahilat the beginning of the week when everyone shows up
19:07.21Groktarand we probably won't until we kill him with well over 45 left
19:07.27kadrahilyeah
19:07.28Groktarlast week it was 41 :(
19:07.39kadrahilwe have a lot of people that are either in school with midterms
19:07.42Groktarour first kill was with 24
19:07.45kadrahilor can't make it on mondays or sundays every week
19:07.45kadrahiletc
19:07.46Groktarahh
19:08.01kadrahilsucks for people like me that just live on their own and work full time and have 100% raid attendance :P
19:08.55Groktaryeah, for sure
19:09.39Groktarlast week we did two normal 25 mans, three heroic 10 mans, 3 normal 10mans (people still want badges) and heroic 25 man in two nights
19:09.48Groktarwas kinda awesome to have the whole week off
19:09.50Groktarnot going to lie
19:09.53kadrahilyeah
19:10.05kadrahilwe do the same
19:10.08kadrahilminus anub in 25 heroic
19:10.22kadrahilsince we always save that for thursdays and sundays
19:10.27kadrahilbut that's when the raid group keeps getting mixed up
19:10.30Groktarah
19:10.39Groktarthursdays are out for us
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19:10.45kadrahilah
19:10.52Groktarbecause we're missing like 3 people that day
19:11.05kadrahilyeah we just clear up to anub on tuesdays and call it a night, and do our two 25 man normals on monday nights
19:11.15kadrahiland do heroic 10 mans randomly during the week
19:11.33kadrahilboth groups have been doing insanity clears for a few weeks
19:12.09Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r52 / (2 files in 1 directory): +AceEvent-3.0
19:12.30Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r53 Ailo.lua: Use AceEvent for eventhandling
19:12.39kadrahilwe just recruited a prot warrior already in full 245 gear so hope is shining through again
19:12.44Groktarmy 10m group never gets insanity
19:12.49kadrahil:-(
19:12.52Groktarwe always wipe once
19:12.56kadrahilaww
19:12.56Groktarand then kill it with 49 left
19:13.01Groktar3 weeks in a row, no joke
19:13.16kadrahillast week everyone but one person died at less than 1% and anub died to dots
19:13.21Groktar:p
19:13.32kadrahilit was close
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19:29.34sylvanaarhttp://www.wowace.com/addons/prat-3-0/tickets/171-stop-putting-shortcut-on-desktop/
19:29.51sylvanaarAckis can you move that?
19:30.20sb|workGroktar: did it twice, and 49 since 3 weeks now :o
19:30.22Ackissylvanaar: just invalid it, it's been fixed a long time ago
19:30.35sb|workGroktar: disconnects and stuff
19:30.55sylvanaarok
19:31.10yoshimoicc will be disabled in 15m... how the hell shall i find a group and test it...
19:31.13Ackissylvanaar: A new option has been added to the 'Startup & Shortcuts' options group: 'Automatically add a Curse Client v4 shortcut to the Windows desktop'. <-- 4.0.0.940 that was added in
19:32.05Groktarsb|work: someone they managed to let two shadowstrikes get off at 5% with the entire raid up, and they gibbed both healers
19:32.20Groktars/someone/somehow
19:32.26Groktarhow does that purl thing work again?
19:32.35asmodai~die
19:32.36purlACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
19:32.50Groktarpoor purl :(
19:32.55Groktar~roulette
19:32.56purlACTION watches groktar pull the trigger:  BANG!
19:32.57asmodai~kill Groktar
19:32.58purlACTION shoots a ionized pseudophoton gun at Groktar
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19:41.46sylvanaarAckis thats fine - it just was showing up in my recent tickets list, i didnt actually look at it
19:46.17asmodaihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opZ69P-0Jbc&hd=1   wooooo
19:48.03yoshimoif the taskmanager is unable to kill a process, how can i kill it?
19:50.23steevreboot
19:51.24yoshimoi was hoping for an other option
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19:52.30stolenlegacyyoshimo: assuming you run windows
19:52.35stolenlegacytaskkill /f /im process
19:55.03Groktarnibbles on yoshimo's process
19:55.25stolenlegacyGroktar: stop Fiskering
19:55.41Groktar:(
19:56.04yoshimostolenlegacy , process explorer and taskmanager still show it... i need to reboot
19:56.16stolenlegacyyoshimo: then you need to?
19:59.46NeoTrondoes anyone happen to know a good place to see the actual benefit of different professions for a warlock
19:59.55kadrahilelitist jerks!
20:00.07NeoTronlike "jc gives you X dps"
20:00.07kadrahilalso isn't tailoring+JC pretty much standard?
20:00.08NeoTron:P
20:00.12kadrahil. oh
20:00.13NeoTronsure
20:00.20stolenlegacykadrahil: wasn't it JC/BS?
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20:00.30NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:00.36kadrahilstolenlegacy: no clue, i don't play casters
20:00.40kadrahilstolenlegacy: but it could be!
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20:02.13kadrahilslaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout
20:02.21kadrahilfemale orc inc tonight
20:03.31NeoTron<PROTECTED>
20:03.39NeoTronbut if it's like a 20-40 dps difference who the hell cares
20:03.49NeoTronsneezing and missing a button press will be a bigger loss :P
20:04.42Repo10ailo: 03Starfox * r54 Ailo.lua:
20:04.44RepoYou can now setup your own abbreviations for instance names, it will try to pre-fill it with "first char of every word"-type (but the patter probably won't work that well in locales like zhTW etc.).
20:05.03NivFreakI think BS/JC is pretty unrivaled just because of flexibility (on top of superior or equal stat gains)
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20:05.31NeoTronbs gains doesn't seem to be significantly better than anything else
20:05.32NivFreakbut there's not really any content tuned tightly enough for it to matter
20:05.35NeoTronin fact seems to be the same
20:05.40NivFreakNeoTron: they are the same yes
20:05.42NivFreakbut you have options
20:06.02NivFreakI'd have a lot harder time being the single anub 25h add tank without both
20:06.07NeoTrontwo red gems, vs cloak enchant vs bracer enchant for example
20:06.19NeoTrontank might be different
20:06.21NivFreakfor pure dps it's a toss up
20:06.23NeoTronbut I'm talking caster dps :P
20:06.32NivFreakbut it does give you the options of haste vs hit vs SP
20:06.37NivFreaketc
20:06.50NeoTronwhich typically is no real
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20:15.56Repo10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.13 * r55 : Tagging as 1.0.13
20:26.32RepoNew announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/curse-looking-to-hire-net-and-php-developers-passion/
20:27.03nevcairielwtf on curse is in php?
20:27.21NeoTronnothing
20:27.26NeoTronit's some other curse site(s)
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20:27.45NeoTronso question is, why do they only want to hire a developer's passion?
20:27.48NeoTronhow does that even work?
20:28.02nevcairielheh
20:28.04ckknightpassion!
20:28.13ShefkiIt's like Passion of the Christ.
20:28.17ShefkiIt just works.
20:31.31Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.2-1-g1f864b9 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] don't fire soulshard-create on every item created
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20:35.37ShefkiPettigrow gets around doesn't he.
20:35.42GnarfozShefki: PotC didn't work, it was awful
20:35.54ShefkiHuh?
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20:36.37Gnarfozit was half boring, half disgusting and completely... aramaic. :p
20:36.57ShefkiWhat is PotC?
20:37.18Gnarfoz<Shefki> It's like Passion of the Christ.
20:37.43ShefkiOhh.
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20:44.08Ingelacan you create a clickable healthbar if you do it out of combat?
20:44.23ShefkiSure.
20:44.40Ingelanice
20:44.47ShefkiBut the healthbar itself is probably just anchored to a unit frame that's actually clickable.
20:45.02Ingelai'm thinking of an addon idea like you can type 5 names or something and you get 5 raid frames for those
20:45.38Ingelafor example the 3 maintanks, or 5 people that needs to be 100% all the time like soakers on twins and so on
20:45.39ShefkiIngela: Get oRA3, add the people to the tank list, setup a raid frame with the filter of main tank.
20:45.58ShefkiJust add those people to your tank list.
20:46.06Ingelaoh i thought ora3 was only for maintanks
20:46.16Ingelanvm my idea then, thanks Shefki :)
20:46.23ShefkiWell you can put anyone you want on the list.
20:46.35ShefkiWe typically always put one of our dps on it as an assist.
20:46.57ShefkiTechnically there are assist lists but I don't think anyone really uses that.
20:47.21Ingelai don't care for assists or what ever i just want a group frame of poeple that needs extra attention
20:47.22ShefkiPart of what I like with ora3 is the tank list is entirely local unless someone puts them on the blizzard tank list.
20:47.36ShefkiSo I can play around with the order to suit me or add other people I want on there that not everyone might want.
20:47.41NivFreakit's funny I'm all excited to play around as a taruen now, good entertainment value for my main (race change)
20:47.55Ingelayeah exactly Shefki that's what i want, a local one
20:48.00Ingelanot like the 3 maintanks in raid
20:48.07Ingelaor the 2 people that have assists or what ever
20:48.19ShefkiInterestingly enough some people don't like that behavior:
20:48.20Shefkihttp://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/628-remove-ora3-mt-list/
20:48.46NivFreakRBS needs to support ora3 so I can switch
20:49.03IngelaO.o
20:49.22yoshimorbs is using the ora2 itemchecks so it would save some code if it switched ;)
20:49.37ShefkiRBS?
20:49.48NivFreakraidbuffstatus
20:49.49yoshimoraidbuffstatus
20:50.16NivFreakit hooks ora2 for at least durability checks, I don't recall if there was anything else
20:50.33yoshimonivfreak, it also checks hunter ammo and their buffood i think
20:50.51NivFreakbuff food via ora2?
20:51.00NivFreakI assumed that was done independantly
20:51.11steevwell fed
20:51.26steevi'd start running rbs again, but then i'd see how many times we lack buffs
20:51.26NivFreakanyway, it seems like there was something else hooking ora2 that I liked, so I haven't forced the guild to ora3 yet
20:51.27Ingelawell, well fed
20:51.28ShefkiWhy do you guys need that stuff?  Can't people take care of their own stuff?
20:51.29steevand i'd be like meh
20:51.29NivFreakI do like ora3 though
20:51.35NivFreakShefki: no
20:51.36steevShefki: sadly, no
20:51.36NivFreak:)
20:52.04NivFreakRBS is one of my favorite addons for exactly that reason
20:52.05NivFreakpeople fail
20:52.07steevand i always get
20:52.16steev"We're a casual guild"
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20:52.33NivFreakI found it just speeds the pulling process along
20:52.44NivFreakand people fail at staying sitting for 10secs
20:53.09steevi hate the "we're a casual guild" excuse
20:53.35yoshimoNivFreak, only some special food i think, normal food is checked based on buffs
20:53.40ShefkiI had no idea that buffing and repairing and having ammo was so hard.
20:53.40steevyou want to push hard modes, thats fine, but don't expect me to pay 10g in repairs because you refuse to buff up
20:53.46genetik-steev: if "not enough time" is the problem, it's a valid excuse :P
20:54.04steevgenetik-: if you don't have enough time to prepare to raid, then you don't deserve to raid
20:54.07NivFreakShefki: it's amazing how people can fail
20:54.15NivFreakShefki: and we're working on anub 25h heh
20:54.17steevconsidering anyone in our guild who has the "raider" rank, gets free shit out of the guild bank
20:54.19genetik-no, i mean not enough time spent raiding
20:54.56steevgenetik-: how much time do you need? totc takes ~40 mins tops, ulduar can take longer (we just extend raid id's so we get hard modes done)
20:55.10steevwe raid mon, tues, thurs, from 8-11pm cst (server)
20:55.13genetik-me personally? not much
20:55.16genetik-i'm just arguing the other side
20:55.17genetik-:)
20:55.23HjalteDoes anyone know what will happen to an achievement like "Server first Dwarf" if you switch to another race?
20:55.31steevit disappears
20:55.37steevcomes back when/if you switch back
20:56.10steevat least that was my take
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20:56.51genetik-steev: easy enough to clear all of tier 8 and 9 content in one night if people aren't dumb or slackers
20:57.10ShefkiNivFreak: Here's something handy for you then: http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4_anubarak/
20:57.31steevgenetik-: we can, but... people slack, or they refuse to buff cuz "its close to raid quitting time" or "we have the boss on farm already"
20:57.48NivFreakShefki: I took a different approach
20:57.52genetik-steev: yeah, that sucks
20:58.03genetik-seems to be plaguing a lot of guilds nowadays
20:58.05NivFreakShefki: I modified GridStatusRaidIcons to have indicators for specific raid marks, and then let DXE mark them
20:58.15ShefkiThe marking sucks.
20:58.31ShefkiIf you have multiple people promoted with marking turned on it fucks up.
20:58.43ShefkiAnd it's slow.
20:58.44NivFreakwe don't use pb4 raid frames
20:58.59NivFreakand in fact, I dropped pb4 completely and regained quite a few fps
20:59.12NivFreakDXE does a great job of marking
20:59.16NivFreakand it has been quite fast
20:59.21ShefkiYou don't understand.
20:59.25NivFreakwe'll see if in the end we have to move away from it
20:59.28ShefkiMarking requires 1.5 round trips
20:59.37NivFreakwhy
20:59.44IngelaShefki to show my maintanks, how do i do
21:00.13ShefkiNivFreak: .5 for the person who's marking to receive the info that the debuff happened.  .5 for person to set mark.  .5 for everyone else to receive the raid mark.
21:00.23ShefkiFor a lot of people that can end up being a 3rd of a second.
21:00.30NivFreakI don't buy that it's anywhere near that long
21:00.43NivFreak.5 what
21:00.51Shefkihalf o round trip
21:01.11ShefkiIf both the person marking and the person receiving have 200 ms ping times.
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21:01.22ShefkiTo see a mark it takes 300 ms form the time the debuff was applied.
21:02.07NivFreakalright, well I have 30ms
21:02.11NivFreakand I'm marking
21:02.26NivFreakand all it is is see the debuff, call SetRaidTargetIcon()
21:02.31NivFreakand then the indicator picks it up
21:02.35Shefki150-200 ms seems pretty typicall for most people in my raid.
21:02.43NivFreakso maybe you lose 250ms
21:03.42NivFreakif we have problems I'll probably just write a grid indicator to do it the same way
21:03.59ShefkiThat's fine, feel free to copy the guts of that addon.
21:04.19ShefkiMy point is you can do it locally on each persons machine much faster.
21:04.56ShefkiWithout worrying about multiple peopels latency, potential race conditions with the mark setting and different addons fighting each other of what mark to set.
21:05.38genetik-grid indicators would solve the race condition problem, i'd think
21:06.14ShefkiThe ideal solution IMHO is what I did which would be easy to port to any other unit frame you wanted.
21:09.44yoshimoyoure talking about pitbull4_anubarak, dont you?
21:09.48ShefkiNivFreak: Using this technique doesn't really require an addon anyway.  I just wrote the addon to make it even easier for myself.
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21:10.12ShefkiMostly becuase I got tired of reconfiguring the sort between group then name and just name becuase one healer can't do it by group.
21:10.45Shefkiyoshimo: Yes.
21:11.41yoshimowhy are there no unique numbers for raidmembers? would also avoid the /rnd 1-25 assignment problems "no on my unitframes its someone else"
21:13.12ShefkiWell we have unique ids, there's the raid index.
21:13.35ShefkiBut I don't see how that helps anything.
21:14.05ShefkiThough the raid index is not consistent from one person to the next.
21:14.37ShefkiSo now that I think about it I guess there's no point of the index sorts.
21:14.40ShefkiThey'll never work right.
21:19.11Repo10pitbull4_anubarak: 03Shefki 07master * 9d4b37b Anubarak.lua: [+2 commits]
21:19.13Repo9d4b37b: Remove the index based sorts, the raid indexes are different in
21:19.14Repo7ed0878: Oops left the default for 25 set to all the assignments which makes no
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21:24.23yoshimohow many hours left till the next ptr-boss is available in the us?
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21:32.13KriLL3yoshimo: is that icecrown?
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21:33.23yoshimoicecrown citadel yes
21:33.52KriLL3what size is that?
21:33.57KriLL325?
21:34.32KriLL3hmm 5-25
21:34.56KriLL3which one has arthas? would be kinda lame to take him down with 5 people
21:35.05NeoTronthe 5 man and 10 man and 25 man
21:35.15NeoTronalthough I suspect the 5 man arthras doesn't fail
21:35.17steevhttp://www.topcultured.com/bacon-jam-its-bacon-you-can-spread/
21:35.46KriLL3steev: goes well with baconaise
21:36.01AeyanQuite
21:36.01yoshimoneotron, he will just laugh and vanish in the 5man ;)
21:36.03KriLL3I've heard
21:36.27yoshimothey should at least open the 3wing, the halls of reflection...
21:36.32KriLL3yoshimo: I thought he was arrogant enough to insist on fighting until the bitter end
21:38.17yoshimoKriLL3 , i doubt he will die to a 5man group
21:38.29KriLL3true
21:38.35KriLL3thought perhaps you get help, warden style
21:38.59KriLL3jaina & thrall/varian
21:46.45NeoTronsteev: Skillet Street Food hangs around where I work
21:46.59NeoTron$12 per jar, at their current location, is still rather hefty though
21:47.08steevouch
21:47.51yoshimoKriLL3 , thats possible they helped with the tyrannus encounter in pit of saron as well
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21:50.08yoshimono it was sylvanas,me thinks
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22:11.41Groktarslabs yoshimo around a bit with KriLL3
22:15.23Repo10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r12 / (3 files in 2 directories): Daily Quest icon crap?
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22:16.11Repo10everyquest-questgivers: 03kandarz * r13 Artwork/DQuest.tga: no longer used
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22:22.00RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/php-web-developer/ by Adamar
22:22.29RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/net-web-developer/ by Adamar
22:22.58RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/net-web-developer/ by Adamar
22:23.18RepoKnowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/php-web-developer/ by Adamar
22:25.28chiperI'd be all over that if it weren't for the relocate part
22:25.43Groktarhehe
22:25.48Groktarhuntsville sounds pretty good
22:25.56Groktarresearching it and talking to people there
22:26.36chiperI've been straining my brain for weeks to think up some sort of wow related web tool to build
22:26.57chiperbest I could come up with is a flickr type site for screenshots
22:27.24durcynyou could call it "no one cares about your screenshot dot com"
22:27.35chipermhmm
22:28.34Groktarhaha
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22:33.08Ingelaa lightweight questhelper? is there such thing?
22:33.19profalbertlightheaded maybe
22:34.23HjalteTourGuide
22:34.36Groktarhow do you get around all the data that qh has?
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22:38.53KriLL3well I guess it loads different parts seperatly, like 1-40 40-60 60-70 70-80 perhaps?
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22:39.48KriLL3and it could load dailies separately from normal quests
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22:41.06KriLL3main problem imo is that the DB has to be enclosed in the addon, it can't load it from the web
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22:47.38Groktarplays with c# some more
22:51.24|ckknight|Groktar: we work hard
22:51.27|ckknight|Groktar: we play hard
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22:51.55YewbaccaHmm, http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED and http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE will trigger whenever the player joins a party/raid OR anything changes within the group. I only want to process when the player JOINS a party or raid. Are there any events for this or am I gonna have to keep a "previous state" variable and see if it's changed?
22:52.16YewbaccaLike storing whetehr the player is solo or not, and then comparing that variable on party_members_changed/raid_roster_update to see whether they joined that way.
22:53.54Groktarckknight: :p
22:54.06sylvanaarhes hiding between the pipes
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22:54.26Groktarfloods ckknight's pipes
22:54.28Yewbaccac# is a pretty cool guy, eh has bad performance and portability and doesn't afraid of anything :D
22:55.23ckknightYewbacca: it has really good performance.
22:55.25YewbaccaThere's a reason most apps that actually do any kind of work have a C/C++ core .dll that's dynamically loaded by a C# gui.
22:55.50ckknight"any kind of work"?
22:55.54ckknightcare to back up your statements?
22:56.05YewbaccaEncoding video, processing images, any kind of heavy work
22:56.17sylvanaarwell
22:56.19YewbaccaManaged environments aren't good for that, the overhead is massive.
22:56.27YewbaccaBut the rapid prototyping is nice.
22:56.37ckknightyea, for deep work along those lines, I'd probably write a C library and then P/Invoke
22:56.42YewbaccaExactly
22:56.55sylvanaarmost work is of a different nature
22:56.57ckknightthing is, that's not the majority of work being done, imo
22:57.11sylvanaar=D
22:57.11ckknightespecially not for what we at curse would need it for.
22:57.55YewbaccaYup, it's really nice when you don't need to do any heavy work, and it sure feels better than spending 5x as long writing a C++ program and debugging pointers. :D
22:58.02ckknightthough I could see someone doing image or video processing with unsafe C#
22:58.49YewbaccaMhm, maybe. And Mono is very good nowadays. Is that how you manage to get the client running on Mac?
22:58.56sylvanaarnegative
22:59.08YewbaccaOk, so the mac port is objective-c?
22:59.11ckknightYewbacca: Mac client is done in Cocoa
22:59.12ckknightyea
22:59.15YewbaccaWow, nice :)
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23:00.49YewbaccaDo you have any ideas regarding the question above? Is that what I have to do to only process upon *joining* a party or raid? Ie keep a inGroup = false; variable, and on RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE/PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED, check if it was false, do some "on join" work, then set it to true?
23:01.04YewbaccaI can't see any kind of PARTY_INVITE_ACCEPTED or other event, which would have been helpful
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23:02.53NeoTronall you have to work with are the events that fire, well, a lot
23:04.10YewbaccaYeah those two events are the only ones?
23:05.48Yewbaccackknight: I suppose you already know about this, but wowmatrix are leeching from curse again
23:09.15ckknightYewbacca: I didn't know that
23:09.37ckknighthmm, they might be leeching from wowace/curseforge
23:09.38ckknightugh
23:09.46YewbaccaI don't know if they are copying the addon files to their servers or direct linking, but they are definitely taking the addons.
23:09.57ckknighta lot of addons or just a few?
23:09.58Daemonarace change ! http://i34.tinypic.com/oizonn.jpg
23:09.59YewbaccaStuff that shows up at Curse will show up at Wowmatrix
23:10.00Daemona*cough*
23:10.06YewbaccaEverything, afaik, it seems to be parsing everything
23:10.32AeyanA Draenei rogue would be nifty =)
23:10.47Daemonathat bug is quite fun
23:10.53Yewbaccahttp://www.wowmatrix.com/addons/
23:11.07Daemona~lart Yewbacca
23:11.07purlflings poo at Yewbacca
23:11.17Yewbacca~cry Daemona
23:11.17purlYou want to cry Daemona? I'll give you something to cry about.
23:11.25Yewbaccacries.
23:11.44ckknightwell, looks like I get to go back again and enable the damn flash downloader
23:11.56Yewbaccackknight: They sure are assholes :/ Sue?
23:12.11ckknightit's not cost-effective to
23:12.15YewbaccaAhh
23:12.28ckknightand there's not enough legal precedent to mean for a quick case
23:12.38Yewbacca:(
23:13.42AeyanDoesn't seem like wowace
23:13.57AeyanAt least, just from eyeballing the addons I have that are only on wowace and not curse.com
23:14.09ckknightwowace or curseforge
23:14.45YewbaccaCould be CurseForge, because I found out about it when I was googling my curseforge addon names and noticed wowmatrix in the result.
23:14.54ckknighthmm
23:15.09ckknightwell, I need someone to actually install wowmatrix
23:15.12ckknightrun wireshark
23:15.15ckknightand see what sites it's hitting
23:16.36Arrowmasterckknight: ill fire up the memory dumper
23:16.38YewbaccaHmm
23:16.42YewbaccaWowmatrix loading says this:
23:16.44Yewbacca"Getting curl module"
23:17.00YewbaccaDoesn't sound like they're self-hosting :P
23:17.21vhaarryou can't deduce that from that output
23:17.23YewbaccaHaha they have a license agreement when you start the client
23:17.24Arrowmasterits always used curl
23:17.35YewbaccaHmm ok
23:17.58Yewbaccalol, "you are prohibited from reverse engineering this program"
23:18.01vhaarrcurl is just the library they use to download, just like the curse client probably uses the .Net HTTP classes to download something, it has no significance
23:18.14Arrowmastermy windows computer seems locked up let me try to reboot it
23:18.21ArrowmasterYewbacca: they really really hate me
23:18.33Yewbacca:D
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23:18.53Arrowmasterand i have the perfect defense, dumping my computers memory is not reverse engineering your program
23:19.03Yewbaccalol
23:19.32*** mode/#wowace [+o ckknight] by ChanServ
23:19.33vhaarryou're allowed to reverse engineer anything anyway, just like you're allowed to open any electronic equipment that yo uown
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23:19.49vhaarran EULA can't take that away
23:20.01Yewbaccaexcept in some areas where it's against the law :S
23:20.05ckknightit depends on your country, vhaarr
23:20.10vhaarrreally, alright
23:20.13vhaarrwell, here it's allowed
23:20.24vhaarrof course, on electronic equipment it does void your warranty
23:23.13Yewbacca69.16.175.10
23:23.21Yewbaccahwcdn.net
23:23.27YewbaccaHmm
23:23.58YewbaccaGET /m5v2r8f7/cds/addons/Cartographer.2.5.1.zip?doppl=847af8c9ce9d7bec&dopsig=2f7abaced5960e924c19a2cd5caaa455 HTTP/1.1\r\n
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23:24.15ckknighthmm
23:24.27Repo10arl: 03pompachomp * r2603 / (2 files in 2 directories):
23:24.29RepoFixed incorrect skill levels for Netherweave Bandage and Heavy Netherweave Bandage, changed the orange skill level for both, Fix ticket 853
23:24.30ckknightYewbacca: do they offer pitbull4?
23:24.30Arrowmasterthey are forced to self host that one
23:24.31RepoAdded some more alchemy items to the DO_NOT_SCAN table that I apparently missed.
23:24.33Arrowmastertry another
23:25.23Yewbaccackknight: Pitbull 3.2.14
23:25.26YewbaccaGonna see where it gets that from
23:25.31ckknighthmm, probably still self-hosted
23:25.35harlsomething's wrong with some of the ace config frames, they resize every time i change a setting.
23:25.35ckknightPB3 is GPL
23:25.50YewbaccaSame server and GET /m5v2r8f7/cds/addons/PitBull.3.2.14.zip HTTP/1.1\r\n
23:25.54YewbaccaHmm
23:25.59YewbaccaGonna see where it gets my addons from
23:26.36AeyanI tried some more obscure addons
23:26.41AeyanGot roughly the same thing
23:26.42YewbaccaYeah?
23:26.44YewbaccaHmm
23:27.11harlthis has at least happened with the Routes and PitBull4 config frames.
23:27.14AeyanActually, exactly the same thing
23:27.34harlmaybe someone cares to take a hint at it
23:27.43ArrowmasterYewbacca: stop trying stuff thats ckks
23:28.01AeyanHmm
23:28.04Arrowmasterthey are forced to self host old versions of his addons
23:28.21AeyanGET /p/tullamods/downloads/list?can=2&q=&sort=quality HTTP/1.1\r\n
23:28.27Arrowmasterbecause he changed the licenses and they probably know hes going to be the first to come after them if they violate again
23:28.36AeyanWhen it was scanning my addons
23:28.43ArrowmasterAeyan: looks like pulling from googlecode
23:28.52AeyanYeah
23:29.25YewbaccaOkay I tried my addon now, which was released in october, via CurseForge, and showed up on Wowmatrix. It's being pulled from their server too. So they're scraping some site, maybe manually, and adding everything they can.
23:29.39YewbaccaWell at least they aren't stealing bandwidth now
23:30.02YewbaccaThe fact that not every addon shows up suggests that they do this manually
23:30.34YewbaccaTheir client makes me sick, I'm gonna close it. It's ugly and full of gold ads.
23:31.03AeyanGET /r/1256685915075/wdb.gz HTTP/1.1\r\n
23:31.05AeyanGET /r/1256685916352/wdb2.gz HTTP/1.1\r\n
23:31.09Aeyanand the tullamods one
23:31.14AeyanWhere the three during the scan
23:31.18Aeyan*were
23:31.24harlgold ads suck.
23:31.35ckknightyep
23:32.25ArrowmasterYewbacca: is your addon open source?
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23:33.00YewbaccaThey're all LGPL3
23:33.02harlany idea on how to prevent some of ace config windows from resizing automatically yet?
23:33.28YewbaccaBut only some of them show up on wowmatrix, so it seems they're adding things manually
23:34.45YewbaccaLOL, "Blocking WOWMATRIX is a bogus noob move in Curse" http://wow.curse.com/members/ThantiK/activities/default.aspx
23:35.50Yewbacca"Blocking WOWMATRIX is a bogus noob move since they DON"T REALLY COPMPETE WITH CURSE" what?
23:37.11AeyanNo need to go through all that again =P
23:37.11YewbaccaI agree, so let's go through it again :D
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23:39.46NivFreakhttp://www.sfbg.com/blogs/politics/1027fu.jpg
23:39.47NivFreakhahahah
23:39.48ArrowmasterYewbacca: if your addons are GPL then its your own damn fault they are on wowmatrix
23:39.49NivFreak(and legit)
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23:40.52Arrowmasterwell ive got a new memory dump, i might try again to see if any other pages have code in them
23:40.56Arrowmastertime to look though it
23:41.11NeoTronNivFreak: srsly?
23:41.23NeoTronI have somewhat of a hard time believing it
23:41.28YewbaccaArrowmaster: Mmm yeah, they are allowed to redistribute GPL'd files, I should go All Rights Reserved instead.
23:41.43YewbaccaBesides, Richard Stallman is the biggest asshole on the planet.
23:42.08NivFreakNeoTron: seriously
23:42.17NivFreakhttp://gov.ca.gov/pdf/press/2009bills/AB1176_Ammiano_Veto_Message.pdf
23:42.27NivFreakthere's the original
23:42.55Arrowmasterelse if (the platform = "Win32") and ("/Richard Goldman/Desktop" is not in specialFolderPath("Desktop")) then
23:42.55Arrowmasterwell thats still there
23:44.02YewbaccaArrowmaster: huh? Who is Richard Goldman?
23:44.09YewbaccaNivFreak: Wow, that's fantastic
23:44.14Arrowmasterthe wowmatrix creator
23:44.25YewbaccaAhh
23:44.53NeoTronNivFreak: ok that's just pretty awesome
23:44.59NeoTronwhat is the bill 1176 anyway?
23:45.14Repo10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r84 / (12 files in 2 directories):
23:45.26NivFreakNeoTron: no idea :)
23:45.30RepoBegin a major rewrite to clean up the codebase and switch to Ace3
23:45.31RepoUse alphas at your own risk until the next beta.
23:45.56Repo10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r85 .pkgmeta: fix pkgmeta externals
23:47.58Arrowmasterif tAddonVars["Filename"] = "Carbonite" then
23:47.58Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:47.58Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:47.58Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:48.01Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:48.03Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:48.06Arrowmasteryup
23:48.08Arrowmasterstill fucktards
23:48.34ckknighthttp://bp3.blogger.com/_5DoSeI5q1NA/R0JuSTgmBhI/AAAAAAAAAEg/5G1PuQifMGo/s1600-h/jesus+and+the+dinosaur.jpg
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23:48.35YewbaccaArrowmaster: What is Wowmatrix doing to the \addons folder? I see some new wowmatrix.dat files?
23:48.46Arrowmasterits always done that
23:49.05Arrowmasterthats the old version of the toc from before it changes them all
23:49.11Arrowmasteror part of it
23:49.21Arrowmasteri think its just the old interface line
23:49.39YewbaccaUm okay, so has it ruined something or shall I just del /s wowmatrix.dat ?
23:50.02Arrowmasterits ruined everything
23:50.08NeoTronckknight: awesome
23:50.12Arrowmasterthats why i dont let it find my real wow dir
23:50.17Arrowmasterif (char 1 to 9 of tAddonVars["Filename"] = "Carbonite") then
23:50.17Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:50.20Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:50.22Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:50.26Arrowmastergee that looks familiar
23:50.28Arrowmaster<PROTECTED>
23:50.36Arrowmasteri think that got double pasted
23:50.37Arrowmasteropps
23:50.40NeoTronso it still removes "text" it doesn't want
23:50.43YewbaccaArrowmaster: Hrm, but the .toc files look alright and the .dat file is binary (not ascii).
23:50.55Arrowmasterthe .dat is ascii
23:51.02YewbaccaNot really :D
23:51.04Yewbacca"‹ SVVð/ÊLÏÌKÌñÌ+I-JKLNµR06  u¯– "
23:51.05Arrowmasterand the tocs will all have the same interface version
23:51.09Arrowmasteroh its gziped
23:51.27YewbaccaAh ok "## OriginalInterface: 30000"
23:52.09YewbaccaSo all it did was update the #interface line so its idiotic users wouldn't complain about out of date addons, and wrote the old version to that file. To restore it, all I have to do is fix the interface lines?
23:52.32Repo10mobile-vault: 03Starinnia * r86 MobileVault.toc: fix locale file loading from toc
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23:59.52YewbaccaOk I wrote a shell script that goes through all the wowmatrix.dat files, gzip-decompresses, takes the old value, writes it back to the .toc, and deletes the wowmatrix.dat. Is all good now?

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