| 00:05.53 | Archarodim | Arrowmaster: from what I can see from Mapster I have to use RegisterModuleOptions() each time I want to make a tree entry |
| 00:06.38 | Arrowmaster | thats its own local function, not part of ace3 |
| 00:12.27 | onaforeignshore | I wish someone would make a generic LibModules that makes it easier to create modules for your addon in a standardised, safe way |
| 00:18.36 | Belazor | mitchnull: I wish the spacing thing didn't start from the first plugin on the bar, it looks silly to have blank space to the way left on a bar |
| 00:19.21 | mitchnull | ticket it :P |
| 00:19.28 | Belazor | lawl ok |
| 00:19.49 | Repo | 10lootbidmaster (experimental): 03Saliik * r4 / (3 files in 1 directory): Fixed chest loot bugs. |
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| 00:21.04 | mitchnull | I was expecting it anyway :) the code is half-ready for it, only the option is missing (and the db var) :P |
| 00:21.24 | Repo | 10lootbidadmin (experimental): 03Saliik * r6 LootBidAdmin.lua: First "stable" build. |
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| 00:21.47 | mitchnull | 99% |
| 00:21.55 | mitchnull | (ptr download) |
| 00:22.20 | Repo | 10lootbid (experimental): 03Saliik * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed chest loot. |
| 00:22.55 | Yssaril | mitchnull: which ptr server are you on? |
| 00:24.19 | mitchnull | still installing. some fordring or somesuch |
| 00:24.32 | mitchnull | (eu) |
| 00:24.41 | Yssaril | bah |
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| 00:24.51 | mitchnull | and I won't be on anyway, I'm falling off the chair |
| 00:26.03 | Yssaril | mitchnull: you need a better chair :) |
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| 00:29.40 | Repo | 10poisonswapper: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.3 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Switch to UNIT_COMBAT rather than UNIT_AURA. Remove pulse timer. Don't invoke a swap if the player has >= 60 energy, to prevent GCD conflicts from causing energy capping. |
| 00:29.47 | Repo | 10poisonswapper: 03Antiarc 04v0.3 * fdec6d7 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.3 |
| 00:29.49 | Primer | Gagorian: I wonder how comparing two of the same "items" would work if you DW the same item? |
| 00:30.00 | Primer | Are items distinct in that manner? |
| 00:30.18 | Primer | For example, my DK DW's The Grinder |
| 00:32.56 | Yssaril | primer check the unique id in the itemstring |
| 00:34.03 | Primer | so the "item" returned from GameToolTip:GetItem() would be unique? |
| 00:34.29 | Yssaril | primer the itemlink is i belive |
| 00:35.54 | Primer | ahh the link |
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| 00:43.47 | Repo | 10yssinstancemaps: 03yssaril 07master * cb18d44 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 00:44.03 | Repo | cb18d44: not sure what i was thinking with my instance detection code but it is ALOT simpler now and actually works correctly now in ToC |
| 00:44.05 | Repo | 005f238: fix AN boss location (oops) |
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| 00:51.32 | Stew_a | new files are up for PTR |
| 00:55.02 | Stew_a | wrong channel |
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| 00:57.14 | Archarodim | Arrowmaster: I've rewrote the deadly function: http://www.pastey.net/128023 what do you think? |
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| 00:59.43 | Arrowmaster | does it work? |
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| 01:00.19 | ckknight | hey beautiful people |
| 01:00.24 | ckknight | author rewards budget went up 4.55% this month |
| 01:00.26 | ckknight | *thumbs up* |
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| 01:03.58 | onaforeignshore | Does anyone know Ace3 alternatives for these Ace2 addons: Elephant, FizzleBag, FizzleInventory, XLoot (Group, Master, Monitor) - I know Aloft and Decursive have Ace3 versions in the pipeline |
| 01:04.31 | Archarodim | onaforeignshore: I'm currently working on Decursive |
| 01:04.46 | vhaarr | on a worldoflogs entry, can I download the raw log somehow? |
| 01:04.51 | Archarodim | Arrowmaster: of course it works |
| 01:05.13 | Arrowmaster | do you have a Profile section in the tree? |
| 01:05.41 | Arrowmaster | if everything works then fine, its a lot better than what you had |
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| 01:05.46 | Archarodim | not in the tree, it's inline in the 'general' group |
| 01:06.12 | Arrowmaster | ah ok |
| 01:09.42 | Mikk | onaforeignshore: "LibModules"? how would such a library work? |
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| 01:15.58 | Repo | 10baggins: 03mikk * r435 Baggins.lua: May fix ticket 42 |
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| 01:19.36 | onaforeignshore | Mikk: take care of the registering of option tables with the main module, calls to the DB, and the setting and retrieval of keys/values in the DB, and maybe provide methods of calling set methods/functions in the modules automatically |
| 01:19.41 | onaforeignshore | off the top of my head |
| 01:21.26 | Mikk | But none of those are the same in addons |
| 01:22.23 | Arrowmaster | all that stuff is so basic that using a library is stupid |
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| 01:22.54 | Mikk | Trust arrow to be blunt |
| 01:23.33 | vhaarr | is this when I say something insulting? |
| 01:23.36 | onaforeignshore | Arrowmaster: basic for you maybe, nightmare for me... I've looked at addons that use modules and have seen at least 4 different implementations, and my lua skills aren't good enough yet to understand all the intricacies yet |
| 01:23.53 | vhaarr | a module is just a table |
| 01:24.02 | Mikk | vhaarr: yes, i believe something about feline droppings would be in order |
| 01:24.23 | Mikk | or is it dogs you do.. hmm |
| 01:24.28 | vhaarr | that reminds me of a christmas present I bought this year |
| 01:24.33 | vhaarr | just for the family, for fun |
| 01:24.37 | WobWork | it was full of catpoo? |
| 01:24.43 | onaforeignshore | I have attempted to do it, but I keeep getting a nil pointer for the module table, but it's intermittend, so I must be doing something wrong somewhere |
| 01:24.45 | vhaarr | it's a set of 200 lolcat fridge magnets |
| 01:24.46 | Arrowmaster | using a library would be too restrictive and you would be forced to only do it one way when that stuff isnt hard which is why people do it multiple ways, they do it exactly how they need it done |
| 01:24.52 | Mikk | hahahahaha |
| 01:24.56 | vhaarr | with words like "lol", "can", "haz", etc |
| 01:24.58 | vhaarr | 200 of them |
| 01:25.03 | vhaarr | so you can type your own thing on the fridge |
| 01:25.05 | vhaarr | fucking excellent |
| 01:25.26 | Mikk | i can haz u buy new milk lolplx? |
| 01:25.35 | vhaarr | yeah haha |
| 01:25.45 | MysticalOS | patch is taking forever, and blizz says it's only a tools update, grr |
| 01:25.52 | vhaarr | u gif sammich kekeplx |
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| 01:26.32 | onaforeignshore | Arrowmaster: I can't see where I'm going wrong though :( |
| 01:27.04 | onaforeignshore | guilder and guilder_crowd |
| 01:27.10 | vhaarr | onaforeignshore: you're like diving into things too deep, don't stand in shit that reaches above your knees dude |
| 01:27.42 | vhaarr | start small, grow big, and code by the example of others |
| 01:28.14 | onaforeignshore | well, starting without modules will mean a complete rewrite when I do want to add modules |
| 01:28.20 | vhaarr | yes it will |
| 01:28.27 | vhaarr | and that will teach you valuable lessons as well |
| 01:28.45 | vhaarr | don't make grand plans you can't finish |
| 01:28.49 | vhaarr | just fucking make it work |
| 01:36.26 | onaforeignshore | vhaar: it was working before I split it into modules, so what's your next piece of invaluable information? |
| 01:36.46 | onaforeignshore | this is the 3rd rewrite of the code btw |
| 01:37.09 | onaforeignshore | 1st: Ace2, 2nd: Ace3, 3rd: Ace3 with modules |
| 01:39.10 | vhaarr | those 3 lines just made you look like an idiot |
| 01:39.27 | vhaarr | "I've written this addon 4 times over again in 2 different toolkits and I still don't know what a module is" |
| 01:40.06 | vhaarr | perhaps you could present the actual problem instead of blurting out random stuff about "libmodules" |
| 01:42.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6794 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 01:42.35 | Repo | Catch SWING_MISSED first in the handler since it probably happens more often than the others. |
| 01:42.47 | onaforeignshore | vhaarr: and have you belittle me on IRC further, no thanks... I'll give that a skip |
| 01:43.27 | vhaarr | I'll be afk a few hours anyway, so no worries |
| 01:52.00 | Primer | man, and I thought people in-game were emo |
| 01:54.14 | Repo | 10decursive: 03Archarodim 07master * 2.4.3.2-22-gf648560 / (24 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 01:54.16 | Repo | f648560: - Fixed global space accidental pollution (thanks to "luac -p -l") |
| 01:54.17 | Repo | fd21ec6: - Fix a big mistake concerning profile options management (other Ace3 add-ons were enable to manage their profile) |
| 01:56.06 | onaforeignshore | it's got nothing to do with being emo... they said it was a waste to make such a library, and I accept that after their explanation... it's comments like "just fucking make it work" without knowing what has been done before that get my back up |
| 01:56.06 | Primer | Global polluter! |
| 01:56.54 | onaforeignshore | and I know I have a lot to learn, but I sure as hell aren't going to learn anything from someone who thrives on insulting people who are trying to learn |
| 01:59.12 | Shadowed| | Actually |
| 01:59.19 | Shadowed| | vhaarr is pretty right |
| 02:00.11 | Primer | I guess I should scroll back and read about all this |
| 02:00.14 | Primer | but I'm lazy |
| 02:00.25 | onaforeignshore | he may be right, but that doesn't excuse being rude |
| 02:00.38 | Shadowed| | Welcome to the internet |
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| 02:01.12 | onaforeignshore | well, now you know why there are so few addon developers that continue doing it |
| 02:01.24 | Shadowed| | uh |
| 02:01.44 | Archarodim | He has always been like that as far as I remeber |
| 02:01.46 | Shadowed| | I don't think you actually know what you just said or based that off of any actual facts :p |
| 02:02.40 | onaforeignshore | Shadowed|: true. not factual. but it's hard to try to learn something when you get insulted, and I already said what the problem was earlier, if he had bothered to read |
| 02:03.12 | Shadowed| | He is right, it sounds like you are trying to do something that is outside of your skillset right now. Modules really don't even make an addon better, they usually just cripple the design and produce horrible code |
| 02:03.12 | Shadowed| | You might not like how he said it, but he is right |
| 02:03.32 | Shadowed| | Start simple, expand as you learn. Rewriting code is not the end of the world especially for small projects, and ultimately will make you better as a programmer rather than trying to clean up bad design later on |
| 02:04.40 | onaforeignshore | coding isn't my problem, getting to know Ace3 API is my problem, since there isn't that much information on the net |
| 02:05.13 | Primer | heh, I ported my Ace2 addon to Ace3 in about an hour |
| 02:05.14 | Shadowed| | Ace3 is very simple and really doesn't need that much documentation beyond the configuration |
| 02:05.55 | Shadowed| | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/getting-started/ tells you a lot about probably 99% of what you will end up doing |
| 02:05.55 | Archarodim | Primer: sure if you didn't use all the features of Ace2 that got removed |
| 02:06.11 | onaforeignshore | I get: attempt to index field 'Crowd Control' (a nil value) |
| 02:06.24 | onaforeignshore | that works sometimes, and not other times |
| 02:06.44 | Shadowed| | How do you know it's Ace3s fault? |
| 02:07.46 | Shirik | everything is Ace3's fault |
| 02:07.49 | Shadowed| | yes |
| 02:07.51 | onaforeignshore | never said it was Ace3s fault lol |
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| 02:08.07 | Shadowed| | Then why do you need to learn the Ace3 API and then mention an error? |
| 02:08.48 | onaforeignshore | because it happens when I try to access the DB options table for the namespace, but it's an inconsistent error |
| 02:09.05 | onaforeignshore | and I know it's my fault somewhere, just can't find the error |
| 02:09.40 | Shadowed| | I am thinking you shouldn't even be using Ace3 yet, better off starting small and learning how to do the basics yourself |
| 02:09.59 | onaforeignshore | what basics? |
| 02:10.09 | Shadowed| | Managing the DB yourself for one |
| 02:10.18 | onaforeignshore | why reinvent the wheel? |
| 02:10.45 | onaforeignshore | isn't that the whole point of Ace3, so you don't have to manage things yourself? |
| 02:10.59 | Shadowed| | Because it can make learning when libraries are necessary and not, and just learning how to make addons vastly easier |
| 02:11.33 | Shadowed| | than if you try and learn while using a library that you don't entirely understand |
| 02:13.26 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r22 / (8 files in 4 directories): last commit before total rewrite |
| 02:13.27 | Repo | added LibAboutPanel files |
| 02:13.28 | Repo | fixed LibQTip problem |
| 02:16.05 | onaforeignshore | I have programming background in Pascal, Delphi, FreePascal, C#, JavaScript - I just need to wrap my mind around how Lua does things |
| 02:16.18 | Ingela | i have programming background in css and html |
| 02:16.19 | Ingela | beat that |
| 02:16.29 | Shadowed| | Great and? |
| 02:16.37 | Shadowed| | You will find it far easier to wrap your mind around it if you start simple without libraries |
| 02:16.52 | onaforeignshore | is there a reference online? |
| 02:17.11 | Shadowed| | http://www.wowprogramming.com is generally the best reference |
| 02:18.25 | onaforeignshore | I used that when I was starting out, but it gives you the API, but nothing else... I'm busy working through http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory though, so hopefully that will help |
| 02:18.51 | Shadowed| | reading code will end up helping you more at a certain point |
| 02:19.22 | Shadowed| | Which also makes it easier to learn to use libraries since you can actually poke around them and figure out how they work or what you might be doing wrong |
| 02:19.33 | onaforeignshore | I've read lots of code, but certain things remain a mystery to me still, like metatables, which is why I'm going back to the root - lua |
| 02:20.53 | Ingela | life's a mystery |
| 02:21.35 | Primer | bah, wtf, downloading update?! |
| 02:21.56 | Ingela | yeah Primer 3.3 released |
| 02:22.00 | Primer | lies |
| 02:22.01 | Ingela | can anyone tell that i'm really bored |
| 02:22.04 | Ingela | and trying to troll this channel doesn't work |
| 02:22.06 | Primer | yes |
| 02:22.07 | Ingela | <.< |
| 02:22.10 | quiescens | go to sleep |
| 02:22.29 | Ingela | i should |
| 02:23.09 | Primer | FAILED TO APPLY PATCH!! WTF!!! |
| 02:23.56 | Ingela | i'm updating now as well |
| 02:24.04 | Ingela | wtf was that patch for |
| 02:24.04 | Ingela | :S |
| 02:24.24 | Shadowed| | er the fuck |
| 02:24.27 | Shadowed| | there is a patch... |
| 02:24.29 | quiescens | whatever it was it apparantly couldn't wait for the usual scheduled maintenance |
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| 02:26.37 | Ingela | can't wait for the 24 bags |
| 02:26.44 | Ingela | finally something to spend gold on |
| 02:26.44 | Ingela | =) |
| 02:27.08 | Megalon | it changes replaces repair.exe and the bgdownloader |
| 02:27.35 | Ingela | what |
| 02:28.05 | Primer | This is bullshit...telling me I need to update |
| 02:28.14 | Primer | yet, it downloads nothing |
| 02:28.19 | quiescens | excuses |
| 02:28.34 | quiescens | try running the launcher itself |
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| 02:28.52 | Primer | ahh right, that's the fix |
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| 02:29.08 | Ingela | you offended it Primer |
| 02:29.10 | Ingela | =( |
| 02:31.56 | Shadowed| | huh |
| 02:32.02 | Shadowed| | There actually is some UI changes in this |
| 02:32.10 | Shadowed| | unless I have an old copy of interface data |
| 02:32.34 | Ingela | :O |
| 02:32.54 | quiescens | you broke it |
| 02:32.55 | quiescens | ): |
| 02:33.05 | Ingela | yeah wtf Shadowed |
| 02:33.11 | Ingela | don't break things |
| 02:34.06 | Shadowed| | Actually think I do have an old UI copy |
| 02:34.16 | Yssaril | only thing it seamed to cahnge is the launcher, repair.exe, scan.dll, and the BGdownloader |
| 02:34.37 | Ingela | seems like we'd get a bgdownloader soon then? |
| 02:35.21 | Yssaril | preload all the new art/music for 3.3 |
| 02:35.24 | Yssaril | maybe |
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| 02:39.34 | Primer | damn, everything's getting re-cached |
| 02:39.43 | Primer | everyone's unknown!~ |
| 02:40.21 | Yssaril | it wiped the cache too? |
| 02:40.30 | Primer | YAY! DC'd |
| 02:40.39 | Ingela | yeah i dc'd too :D |
| 02:43.47 | Repo | 10grid: 03Greltok * r1232 GridRoster.lua: |
| 02:43.49 | Repo | Ticket 151 - Change to battleground layout when outside in a pvp combat zone. |
| 02:46.50 | Primer | gonna DC again |
| 02:46.55 | Primer | can't click shit |
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| 02:58.50 | Primer | DC'd again |
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| 03:08.01 | Primer | After all this time, I still can't pull up my JC recipes |
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| 03:32.06 | Repo | 7df4dfb: good buy multiboss loot table function that was serving no purpose |
| 03:32.07 | Repo | 0bfd108: multi bosses are now browsable woot |
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| 03:40.51 | doobius | what are some good coop games like borderlands |
| 03:42.47 | WobWork | l4d? |
| 03:44.22 | doobius | does that have a storyline coop |
| 03:44.22 | WobWork | um |
| 03:44.22 | WobWork | "Zomg zombies. kill them!"? |
| 03:45.35 | Zyn- | Serious Sam! |
| 03:45.36 | Zyn- | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
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| 05:55.42 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ by Arrowmaster |
| 05:56.14 | Arrowmaster | "Files beginning with a period, like .pkgmeta and .docmeta, are always ignored by the packager and should not be listed here." |
| 05:56.26 | Arrowmaster | ive had enough of the idiots |
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| 06:23.39 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 06:23.43 | Shirik | you shall be annihilated |
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| 06:29.20 | Fisker | naw Shirik |
| 06:29.25 | Torhal | Ugh. I wish to hell this guy would have read the section on tables in PIL like I suggested three times. I won't be explaining shit in detail again. |
| 06:29.27 | Fisker | oww |
| 06:29.29 | Fisker | for fucks sake |
| 06:29.56 | Shirik | quien? |
| 06:31.14 | Fisker | naw |
| 06:31.26 | Fisker | just got shocked by a usb cable |
| 06:31.27 | Fisker | :P |
| 06:31.37 | Shirik | shocked by a cable? |
| 06:32.03 | Fisker | yeah |
| 06:32.24 | Fisker | just been to the shower |
| 06:32.51 | Fisker | and i guess it wasn't a shock-shock but heat building up :P |
| 06:33.29 | Fisker | bai Shirik |
| 06:33.31 | Fisker | i hope you die |
| 06:33.39 | Shirik | bye Fisker |
| 06:33.42 | Shirik | are you going to die now? |
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| 06:42.18 | synthetic | **/use [stance:3,nomod,stealth]Pounce; [stance:3,nomod,nostealth]Maim; [stance:3,mod:shift]Savage Roar |
| 06:42.32 | synthetic | **/use [stance:1mod:shift,target=focus,harm] Bash |
| 06:42.41 | synthetic | **/targetlasttarget |
| 06:42.51 | synthetic | **/cast [stance:1, nomodifier, target=mouseover, harm] []Bash |
| 06:42.51 | synthetic | -- |
| 06:44.02 | synthetic | nomod cast bash on mouseover, no mouseover cast bash on target |
| 06:44.18 | synthetic | mod:shift cast bash on focus and targetlasttarget |
| 06:45.01 | synthetic | im not sure how /targetlasttarget works in together with it all, nor where to put it |
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| 06:51.12 | synthetic | is it even possible? |
| 06:52.55 | Shirik | I don't understand why you have /targetlasttarget in there at all |
| 06:56.21 | synthetic | well, in melee base spells |
| 06:56.39 | synthetic | target=mouseover, or target=focus change your target |
| 06:57.29 | synthetic | my goal is to, feral charge focus - bear, bash focus, cyclone focus |
| 06:57.35 | synthetic | but mantain my target |
| 07:00.17 | quiescens | it shouldn't change your target |
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| 07:03.21 | synthetic | it does >< |
| 07:03.42 | synthetic | we came to this conclusion yesterday |
| 07:04.27 | synthetic | **/use [stance:1,nomodifier, target=mouseover, harm] []Bash |
| 07:04.36 | synthetic | this alone changes your target to the mouseover target |
| 07:05.33 | quiescens | well I tried /cast [target=mouseover] bash while attacking a seperate target and it didn't change my target |
| 07:06.31 | synthetic | target something, then use that macro on a mouseover target nearby |
| 07:06.41 | synthetic | it will change your target to the mouseover |
| 07:07.36 | quiescens | not happening |
| 07:08.36 | synthetic | */cast [target=mouseover] bash |
| 07:08.36 | quiescens | I'll bet the difference is |
| 07:08.40 | synthetic | that doesnt change your target? |
| 07:08.46 | quiescens | you're using it with a friendly target |
| 07:08.52 | synthetic | nope |
| 07:08.56 | synthetic | im using this on test dummies |
| 07:09.02 | quiescens | no I mean |
| 07:09.08 | quiescens | you have a friendly target selected originally |
| 07:09.30 | quiescens | and then mouseover a hostile |
| 07:09.53 | synthetic | yeh your right - it does work if your target is friendly |
| 07:10.03 | synthetic | ..but if your target is hostile.. |
| 07:10.27 | synthetic | and you mouseover another hostile target, it will change it to that |
| 07:10.37 | quiescens | actually we're both right |
| 07:10.56 | quiescens | it works as expected if you actually have the rage to cast bash |
| 07:11.12 | quiescens | otherwise it fails to cast but changes targets anyway |
| 07:11.27 | synthetic | testing |
| 07:12.07 | synthetic | why didnt I pick up on this last night :( |
| 07:12.08 | synthetic | thank-you |
| 07:12.11 | quiescens | in which case you're probably safer targetting mouseover right from the getgo and not using target= macros, otherwise /targetlasttarget might actually um |
| 07:12.17 | quiescens | lose the target you want to keep |
| 07:12.42 | quiescens | like, select the target prior to the one you have selected at the start of the macro |
| 07:13.34 | quiescens | or well, shrugs |
| 07:13.36 | synthetic | yeh |
| 07:13.38 | quiescens | you'll have to do somethingorather |
| 07:13.41 | synthetic | **/use [stance:1,mod:shift,target=focus] Bash |
| 07:13.42 | quiescens | to deal with it |
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| 07:14.20 | synthetic | even that line now isnt working |
| 07:15.20 | synthetic | */cast [stance:1,nomodifier, target=mouseover] []Bash |
| 07:15.32 | synthetic | */cast [stance:1,mod:shift,target=focus] Bash |
| 07:15.41 | quiescens | actually its not whether or not you have rage either |
| 07:15.47 | quiescens | its whether you're autoattacking anything |
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| 07:15.58 | synthetic | thats odd |
| 07:16.00 | quiescens | because melee abilities normally automatically start autoattacking if you aren't already attacking |
| 07:16.05 | synthetic | i must be auto attacking? |
| 07:16.37 | synthetic | oh there we go, i must be auto attacking for the macro to work |
| 07:16.43 | synthetic | as intended |
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| 07:20.59 | quiescens | best bet is probably use an actual /target and then /targetlasttarget at the end instead |
| 07:21.24 | quiescens | what are you actually trying to do altogether |
| 07:21.48 | synthetic | **/use [stance:3,nomod,stealth]Pounce; [stance:3,nomod,nostealth]Maim; [stance:3,mod:shift]Savage Roar |
| 07:21.59 | synthetic | **/cast [stance:1,nomodifier, target=mouseover] []Bash |
| 07:22.08 | synthetic | **/cast [stance:1, mod:shift, target=focus] Bash |
| 07:22.15 | synthetic | ill explain the bear bit |
| 07:22.35 | synthetic | firsty if there is a mouseover i want no modifier to bash that target |
| 07:22.52 | synthetic | if there is no mouseover and no modifier i want it to bash the current target |
| 07:23.24 | synthetic | if i have a modifier:shift i want it to target=focus without losing my current target |
| 07:23.50 | synthetic | and cast bash |
| 07:24.21 | synthetic | thats how i want it to work |
| 07:25.43 | synthetic | line 2 works great |
| 07:25.49 | synthetic | line 3 is not working at all |
| 07:26.53 | synthetic | oops line 2 also doesnt work as intented, when auto attacking it casts bash on mouseover just fine without losing a target |
| 07:27.05 | synthetic | but it doesnt bash the target i have if i have no mouseover |
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| 07:33.26 | quiescens | you could probably work around it but you'll likely have to take little shortcuts to fit inside the 255 characters |
| 07:34.01 | synthetic | yeh the limit isnt a problem |
| 07:34.09 | synthetic | i can get rid of some space's ect |
| 07:34.13 | quiescens | things like, [stealth] by itself |
| 07:34.21 | quiescens | presumably you can only stealth in cat form |
| 07:34.22 | quiescens | etc |
| 07:34.41 | synthetic | **/cast [stance:1, mod:shift, target=focus] Bash |
| 07:34.46 | synthetic | that alone is really confusing me |
| 07:34.52 | synthetic | why it wouldnt work. |
| 07:35.03 | quiescens | what isn't working? |
| 07:35.19 | synthetic | no |
| 07:35.42 | quiescens | that wasn't |
| 07:35.43 | quiescens | lol |
| 07:35.54 | quiescens | I'm asking, how its not working |
| 07:36.15 | synthetic | o.O |
| 07:36.22 | quiescens | what about it doesn't work |
| 07:36.24 | synthetic | just double checking |
| 07:36.47 | quiescens | for the bear parts |
| 07:36.48 | synthetic | it works on its own, but not in the mega macro |
| 07:36.57 | quiescens | I would probably try umm |
| 07:37.23 | quiescens | /stopmacro [nostance:1] |
| 07:37.37 | quiescens | /target [target=mouseover,harm][target=focus,mod:shift,harm] |
| 07:37.40 | quiescens | /cast bash |
| 07:37.47 | quiescens | /targetlasttarget [target=mouseover,harm][target=focus,mod:shift,harm] |
| 07:38.05 | quiescens | but hmm |
| 07:38.16 | quiescens | you probably still run into problems if your focus or your mouseover Is your current target |
| 07:38.20 | synthetic | i got the focus part of my macro working just now |
| 07:38.28 | synthetic | i had to re-arange it to line 2 |
| 07:38.33 | synthetic | and put line 2 as line 3 |
| 07:38.34 | quiescens | just blame blizzard's silly autoattack on melee ability logic |
| 07:39.03 | synthetic | that. and how difficult keybinds are for ferals |
| 07:39.07 | quiescens | look, the thing is |
| 07:39.12 | synthetic | who want to use the default ui |
| 07:39.14 | quiescens | the way you currently have it it can never Reach line 3 |
| 07:39.20 | quiescens | because your line 2 has a [] |
| 07:39.25 | quiescens | which will always match |
| 07:39.42 | quiescens | and then it can't do line 3 because the macro will have already tried to cast bash during line 2 |
| 07:40.00 | synthetic | i see |
| 07:40.23 | quiescens | you have to keep in mind macros will do the first thing that matches |
| 07:40.30 | quiescens | and generally can't do more than one action |
| 07:40.38 | synthetic | mmm |
| 07:40.47 | synthetic | well everything is working now |
| 07:40.50 | synthetic | **/use [stance:3,nomod,stealth]Pounce; [stance:3,nomod,nostealth]Maim; [stance:3,mod:shift]Savage Roar |
| 07:40.59 | synthetic | **/cast [stance:1, mod:shift, target=focus,harm] Bash |
| 07:41.07 | synthetic | **/cast [stance:1, nomodifier, target=mouseover,harm] []Bash |
| 07:41.21 | synthetic | under one condition i must be auto-attacking for the mouseover to not change my target |
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| 07:42.54 | synthetic | wierdly enough, when i use it on my focus |
| 07:43.02 | synthetic | it auto-attacks it without having it targetted |
| 07:45.11 | synthetic | thanks again for all your help |
| 07:45.29 | synthetic | most of it has some understanding now :) |
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| 08:23.20 | orionshock | ~wowalert |
| 08:23.28 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 08:57.27 | KriLL3 | heh, catrographer is somewhat confused by Hrothgar's landing |
| 08:57.48 | KriLL3 | no info on it, can't set waypoints etc |
| 08:58.26 | KriLL3 | (new area north of icecrown for tournament quests) |
| 08:59.23 | orionshock | KriLL3: cart2 or 3? |
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| 08:59.45 | KriLL3 | the non weird zooming and confusing one, 2 I guess? |
| 08:59.56 | Torhal | KriLL3: Mapster. Seriously. Cart2 is DEAD. |
| 09:00.04 | Torhal | Has BEEN dead. Community life support. |
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| 09:00.23 | Torhal | Mapster/HandyNotes/Cromulent. Whalah. |
| 09:00.27 | KriLL3 | hmm, well if it's dead how do I replicate that whole package? guess most addons do 1-2 parts of it? |
| 09:00.45 | KriLL3 | guess tomtom for the waypoints/arrow |
| 09:00.55 | KriLL3 | already use handynotes for most of the notes stuff |
| 09:01.38 | KriLL3 | a bit odd really, cartographer works fine for me, well except in the new zone, and later in cataclysm it will be totally fubar I guess |
| 09:02.16 | Torhal | I'm surprised Arrowmaster hasn't wiped it from everyone's memory by sheer force of will. |
| 09:02.23 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 09:02.27 | KriLL3 | well it's an old classic |
| 09:02.50 | KriLL3 | when most people think map addon they think cartographer |
| 09:03.04 | Arrowmaster | its been officially dead since 3.0 |
| 09:03.33 | mitch0 | arrow: ppl think FuBar is not dead, too... |
| 09:03.42 | Torhal | That repo should also be locked. |
| 09:03.45 | KriLL3 | well some addons still use it... for some reason |
| 09:03.51 | Arrowmaster | which repo? the cart one is i think |
| 09:03.57 | Torhal | Because people keep fucking band-aiding it |
| 09:04.00 | Torhal | FuBar |
| 09:04.12 | Arrowmaster | nobody has touched FuBar afaik |
| 09:04.13 | Torhal | Shefki "fixed" it last time it broke. |
| 09:04.27 | Arrowmaster | its just rock shit that breaks |
| 09:04.27 | KriLL3 | mapster + handynotes + tomtom = more or less cartographer? or do I need something else? |
| 09:04.44 | Torhal | Ah, yah - that's what he fixed. |
| 09:04.50 | Torhal | Lock that too. Heh. |
| 09:05.00 | Torhal | KriLL3: Cromulent for the zone info. |
| 09:05.06 | KriLL3 | ty |
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| 09:05.48 | CrazyBenny | not like locking the repo will help...Fan Updates ftw! :P |
| 09:05.49 | KriLL3 | hmm not very recently updated, guess it lacks Hrotgar's landing |
| 09:06.06 | Torhal | CrazyBenny: Not on Curse. I won't approve it. DELETE. |
| 09:06.15 | CrazyBenny | ;) |
| 09:06.21 | KriLL3 | CrazyBenny: sometimes fan updates are good, when an author leaves a still viable addon, but yeah... sometimes they take the paddles to stuff better left dead |
| 09:06.29 | Arrowmaster | CrazyBenny: fan updates dont exist anymore, i have the power to delete projects on curse and the connections to get projects deleted on wowinterface |
| 09:06.39 | Arrowmaster | AND I USE THEM |
| 09:06.43 | KriLL3 | well curse isn't the only site out there |
| 09:07.03 | Torhal | There are three major sites, if you actually count the third. |
| 09:07.16 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: LibTourist-3.0 probably lacks the info on the new zones |
| 09:07.24 | KriLL3 | if they're crazy enough to revive something best left in the ground they'll share it on rapidshare if they need to |
| 09:07.52 | Torhal | KriLL3: At least they won't come around here and ask about it. |
| 09:07.59 | Arrowmaster | i also report comments linking to rapidshare that have fan updates and get those deleted |
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| 09:08.34 | KriLL3 | is ct mod and that other even worse compilation around still btw? |
| 09:08.42 | KriLL3 | could see people make fan updates of those... |
| 09:08.49 | KriLL3 | shudders |
| 09:09.03 | Torhal | All Rights Reserved == Not on Curse if not original author. |
| 09:09.12 | Shirik | Are you seriously bashing 3 year old code? |
| 09:09.18 | KriLL3 | Torhal: even if it's a benign fan update? |
| 09:09.22 | Shirik | Something that literally paved the way for the future of raiding? |
| 09:09.29 | Torhal | KriLL3: License adherance. |
| 09:09.32 | Shirik | not even 3, closer to 4+ |
| 09:09.37 | KriLL3 | Shirik: well, ct wasn't that bad, can't remember the name of the one that was horrible though |
| 09:10.06 | Repo | 10broker-calendar: 03CrazyBenny 041.1.1 * r21 : Tagging as 1.1.1. Finally got rid of those weird errors. |
| 09:10.59 | orionshock | KriLL3: RDX? is what your thinking of? |
| 09:11.09 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: what new zones are there other than that landing? |
| 09:11.17 | Arrowmaster | i dont know i dont fucking play wow |
| 09:11.34 | KriLL3 | orionshock: no that's not it, was basically just a huge pile of addons, replacing the entire UI more or less |
| 09:11.39 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: heh, ok |
| 09:11.41 | Torhal | KriLL3: He's the retired quarterback, doing commentary. |
| 09:11.44 | KriLL3 | no need for the profanity ;) |
| 09:11.47 | CrazyBenny | KriLL3: only landing and toc instances were added last patch |
| 09:11.53 | Torhal | This is Arrowmaster we're talking about. |
| 09:11.59 | KriLL3 | ;) |
| 09:12.09 | KriLL3 | CrazyBenny: kk |
| 09:12.32 | KriLL3 | anyone knows of an loot link alternative btw? remember there being one half a year ago when I last quit... but I can't remember the name now |
| 09:13.08 | mitch0 | there was some german name |
| 09:13.12 | mitch0 | ludwig or somesuch |
| 09:13.16 | KriLL3 | my evil brother gave me a month of playtime to guilt me into playing with him, the bastard |
| 09:13.20 | Shirik | orionshock is trying to piss me off or something :P |
| 09:13.21 | KriLL3 | that's it, thx |
| 09:13.31 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/addons/fubar/tickets/26-error-occurs-when-logging-into-my-characters/ |
| 09:13.36 | Arrowmaster | can i just disable the tickets too? |
| 09:14.09 | orionshock | Shirik: no intentionally, RDX came from the ct alternative.. i really didn't know the rest of the context. |
| 09:14.19 | orionshock | KriLL3: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/SearchResults.aspx?q=loot |
| 09:14.27 | Shirik | well I worked on RDX so :P |
| 09:14.33 | KriLL3 | I wish addons that replace older addons would mention the addon it replaces in the description or something, so you find it if you search for "loot link" |
| 09:15.23 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/addons/fubar/tickets/25-fubar-trying-to-use-an-ace-2-lib-but-cant/ |
| 09:15.23 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I don't see the point in giving people false hope. If they can file tickets they will expect something to be done with them. |
| 09:15.26 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 09:15.28 | Arrowmaster | same fucking idiot |
| 09:15.48 | Arrowmaster | Kaelten, ckknight: FUCK YOU GUYS FOR PUTTING TICKET CREATION IN THE CURSE CLIENT! |
| 09:15.58 | Torhal | ROFL |
| 09:16.03 | orionshock | Shirik: i remember RDX Looked pretty :) |
| 09:16.18 | orionshock | Kaelten: ckknight ^^ 2nd what Arrowmaster said |
| 09:16.53 | orionshock | just not as mean... |
| 09:17.21 | CrazyBenny | I wish people that created the ticket, would get auto email with all future comments on it...now you get more tickets with no feedback at all :S |
| 09:18.11 | Arrowmaster | i wish marking a ticket as invalid banned that user from ever creating a new ticket for any project im listed as an author of |
| 09:18.16 | mitch0 | email notif on tickets would be good. (for all parties involved) |
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| 09:19.07 | orionshock | isn't there only like 3 people that work on the actual site & features coding? |
| 09:19.38 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:19.40 | Arrowmaster | theres 0 people |
| 09:20.01 | orionshock | ah that explains alot |
| 09:20.15 | KriLL3 | bah annoying that I can't remember the name of that addon pack, it was huge, and was around before CTmod which more or less killed it since it wasn't as much of a mess |
| 09:20.34 | Belazor | KriLL3: Cosmos? :p |
| 09:20.38 | KriLL3 | that's the one |
| 09:20.40 | KriLL3 | thanks |
| 09:20.44 | Belazor | I used to use it XD |
| 09:20.49 | KriLL3 | me2 |
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| 09:21.33 | Belazor | Btw, anybody know of any "top damage/healing" addon beyond HitCrit / TopScoreFu? Preferrably with superbuff detection |
| 09:21.52 | Torhal | Belazor: What's wrong with HitCrit? |
| 09:22.06 | Belazor | It tracks too much |
| 09:22.22 | Torhal | Hrm...thought that was configurable... |
| 09:22.34 | KriLL3 | the window extends past the display |
| 09:22.42 | KriLL3 | and it lists everything ever |
| 09:22.48 | Belazor | yeah |
| 09:22.49 | airtonix | arrowmaster : thats 3 more people working on a site than the offical aion site |
| 09:22.51 | KriLL3 | including charge, thrust etc |
| 09:22.53 | Belazor | I only want it to track MY SPELLS |
| 09:22.58 | Torhal | KriLL3: Then you're using an older version - I talked Zhinjio into making it scrollable |
| 09:22.58 | Belazor | What I HAVE IN MY SPELLBOOK |
| 09:23.10 | Belazor | And I can't find a way to make that happen |
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| 09:23.18 | Belazor | not to mention purging data doesnt seem to work either |
| 09:23.18 | KriLL3 | I use which ever version the client says is the newest |
| 09:23.27 | Belazor | Im using the latest alpha even |
| 09:23.28 | Arrowmaster | im glad i can delete comments on wowace, im going to do some cleaning |
| 09:24.18 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: be careful when you swing the banhammer, wouldn't want you to end up with hammer elbow |
| 09:25.01 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: u don't want a ban hammer, u want a beating stick |
| 09:25.21 | Arrowmaster | people that paste huge swatter logs in cartographer comments when its something like fucking cartographer_questinfo thats erroring can fucking DIAF |
| 09:25.31 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: no i want a wiffle bat |
| 09:26.07 | KriLL3 | Belazor: tried critline? |
| 09:26.17 | KriLL3 | a bit better I think, it's LDB |
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| 09:26.50 | KriLL3 | used to list everything, but now it's fairly sensible, still has a long list of wild wyrm and siege engine/turrent stuff though |
| 09:27.44 | Shefki | Torhal: I'm gonna have a fit if you guys lock rock. |
| 09:28.01 | Shefki | Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to sue it. |
| 09:28.03 | Shefki | use* |
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| 09:28.23 | mitch0 | that was a nice one :) |
| 09:28.37 | mitch0 | in any case, I need coffee |
| 09:28.50 | Torhal | Shefki: I'm not locking it. I think it should be locked though because it will never be properly fixed and the stuff that uses it will never be written away from it. |
| 09:29.02 | Shefki | It's really not that broken. |
| 09:29.14 | Shefki | It's upgrade mechanism is broken but that's not really that big of a deal. |
| 09:29.26 | Shefki | Given that very few addons still use it. |
| 09:29.28 | Arrowmaster | its a major deal |
| 09:29.59 | Shefki | No it isn't. It takes 5 minutes to retag the handful of stuff that still uses it. |
| 09:30.53 | Arrowmaster | some of those have locked repos |
| 09:31.02 | Shefki | Like what? |
| 09:31.07 | Arrowmaster | cartographer |
| 09:31.26 | Shefki | Nobody uses Cartographer, it's broken regardless of rock issues. |
| 09:31.47 | Shefki | There's pretty much 2 things people still use that depend on Rock. |
| 09:31.52 | Shefki | PB3 and FuBar. |
| 09:32.15 | Torhal | Shefki: KriLL3 still uses Cart2 |
| 09:32.22 | Arrowmaster | do you look at the total page views and daily downloads on curse? |
| 09:32.22 | Torhal | Or at least, did until an hour ago. |
| 09:32.42 | Arrowmaster | people still fucking update cartographer a lot even though its not been touched |
| 09:33.03 | Brybry | cartographer still worked fine last time I used it =x |
| 09:33.04 | Shefki | Cart2, that the one that tried to look like google maps? |
| 09:33.12 | Torhal | That's 3 |
| 09:33.15 | Arrowmaster | somebody should add those new zones to LibTourist-3.0 though so people will shut the fuck up about that damn landing |
| 09:33.16 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: tbh, daily downloads is worthless in this context, as there has been no major update in quite a while. naturally no one is going to down load a version they already have. |
| 09:33.39 | Arrowmaster | orionshock: idiots reinstall thinking it will magically fix their problems |
| 09:33.46 | Arrowmaster | they do this a lot |
| 09:33.47 | orionshock | well this is true |
| 09:33.54 | Torhal | orionshock: You haven't seen the multitude of posts like "i even deleted and re-installed" |
| 09:34.04 | Torhal | Bah, Arrow beat me |
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| 09:34.27 | KriLL3 | Torhal: well in my defense I don't browser a lot of addon sites, and it worked fine until I noticed that the new zone wasn't in there, which isn't a biggy really |
| 09:34.28 | Belazor | KriLL3: It looks nice, seems to take the style of TopScoreFu which is relevant to my internets. Thanks :) |
| 09:34.48 | Torhal | KriLL3: I was just illustrating to Shefki that people do still use it. |
| 09:35.11 | Arrowmaster | damn at this rate i might hit 10000 points again by the end of the year |
| 09:35.13 | KriLL3 | well as long as they don't get exalted with the horde/alliance arena faction... |
| 09:35.31 | MysticalOS | the libs do have the zone |
| 09:35.45 | Arrowmaster | MysticalOS: LibTourist-3.0 does? |
| 09:35.53 | KriLL3 | I can see it on the map, but I can't plot a waypoint there etc |
| 09:35.54 | MysticalOS | all i know is my cartographer has no errors |
| 09:36.04 | MysticalOS | but i update my libs |
| 09:36.55 | KriLL3 | all works as expected with tomtom + mapster + cromulent |
| 09:37.42 | orionshock | MysticalOS: let me guess - Alpha versions disemebedded? |
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| 09:38.49 | MysticalOS | alpha versions with libs embedded, but if that addon is only one that uses a particular lib i'll manually embed a new lib if i see it get updated |
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| 09:39.18 | MysticalOS | if multiple use lib like babble libs and ace2 and ace3 i just install them and not worry about the out of date embeds |
| 09:40.08 | orionshock | ya... well if you can figure it out to do that i'd say more power to ya.. but in the overall let dead addons die :) |
| 09:40.19 | MysticalOS | client always gave me grief with disembedded, sometimes it couldn't find a lib so that addon would fail. |
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| 09:41.14 | Arrowmaster | @ping |
| 09:41.15 | Repo | pong |
| 09:41.36 | Torhal | Speaking of which, v3 CC deleted DropTheCheapestThing for some reason....re-grabbing now. |
| 09:41.53 | Kalroth | It just did as the addon said |
| 09:41.56 | Arrowmaster | ok the only zones added to LibTourist-3.0 since 3.1 have been the 2 Trial of the * instances, anything else is missing |
| 09:42.50 | orionshock | hrothgar's landing |
| 09:42.55 | MysticalOS | pretty sure the cartographer error with landing was out of date babble zone? |
| 09:42.59 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: "Hrothgar's Landing" is missing then, but it works in mapster cromulent and tomtom |
| 09:43.19 | KriLL3 | I didn't get an error, just couldn't set a waypoint |
| 09:43.25 | Arrowmaster | none of those work as horribly as cartographer though |
| 09:43.56 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: not for me to judge discontinued code |
| 09:44.21 | Arrowmaster | one of the cartographer tickets is that it breaks on GM island |
| 09:44.22 | MysticalOS | i always liked cartographer cause i could still move with the map open, make it very transparent, and just always fly around with map open. never bothered to try anything else since it still works |
| 09:44.30 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: lol |
| 09:44.46 | KriLL3 | very common usage scenario... on private servers... and for GMs |
| 09:44.46 | Arrowmaster | because GM Island isnt in Babble-Zone |
| 09:45.10 | KriLL3 | kinda hard to test for a non GM or non private server user |
| 09:45.12 | MysticalOS | but if no one updates cartographer for 3.3 i'll find something else. I do hope however that the chinchilla errors get fixed for PTR. :o |
| 09:45.20 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: lvl 1 nelf priest |
| 09:45.33 | Arrowmaster | MysticalOS: for just those uses get Mapster |
| 09:45.40 | Arrowmaster | you dont need anything else |
| 09:46.00 | MysticalOS | how does mapster agree with gathermate and handynotes? |
| 09:46.02 | KriLL3 | mapster + tomtom + cromulent are fine |
| 09:46.09 | KriLL3 | I use handynotes, works fine |
| 09:46.11 | Arrowmaster | leave cart installed but disable it, i still want paid |
| 09:46.21 | orionshock | MysticalOS: written by close friends on irc, so they play nicely |
| 09:46.35 | orionshock | also, Chinchilla -> SexyMap |
| 09:46.38 | KriLL3 | orionshock: why aren't all these parts merged into one addon? |
| 09:46.50 | orionshock | KriLL3: because it's not cartographer |
| 09:46.55 | Arrowmaster | because that was done before |
| 09:46.58 | Arrowmaster | it was bad |
| 09:47.01 | KriLL3 | also a bit funny that all these addons add coordinates to the map frame, so you get 3 on top of each other, unless you disable some |
| 09:47.06 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 09:47.18 | MysticalOS | addons are always better modular imo, more memory efficent and cleaner if you want to disable certain functions |
| 09:47.24 | Arrowmaster | only mapster and tomtom add the coords |
| 09:47.25 | MysticalOS | all-in-ones=bloatware |
| 09:47.26 | Torhal | KriLL3: Non-all-in-one allows users choice |
| 09:47.32 | orionshock | KriLL3: to help you understand, when LibStub came out (it was really the turning point) the new way of thinking was "Small addons doing 1 thing really really good that dosn't break in each patch" |
| 09:47.47 | KriLL3 | orionshock: ah |
| 09:47.59 | KriLL3 | Torhal: true, though the map is kind of one thing |
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| 09:48.11 | Arrowmaster | no the new way of thinking was "addons not written by ckknight then left to rot" |
| 09:48.52 | mitch0 | krill3: there are still folks areound that swear by big-ass-all-in-one addons (like nUI) |
| 09:49.18 | Arrowmaster | nUI is a lot better maintained than any other giant all in one addon |
| 09:49.21 | KriLL3 | guess that's easier for people that don't really have an interest in addons |
| 09:49.22 | orionshock | nUI just layed out badly iirc, not modular enough |
| 09:49.25 | mitch0 | personally I don't understand them... better to have one or two of my addons break then my entire UI... |
| 09:50.12 | KriLL3 | don't understand personal addon packs either |
| 09:50.26 | KriLL3 | "these are the addons I use, all of them!" ... who cares? |
| 09:50.28 | orionshock | good addons from good authors is how i do it. been working sense 1.12 |
| 09:51.03 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: notice how you dont find those on curse anymore? |
| 09:51.04 | KriLL3 | I've always used individual addons, but I did use CTmod way in the past |
| 09:51.12 | KriLL3 | Arrowmaster: yeah, for which I'm glad |
| 09:51.18 | KriLL3 | was a lot of them on curse in the past |
| 09:52.05 | MysticalOS | mapster is more memory efficent than cartographer, i like it already :) |
| 09:52.42 | Torhal | MysticalOS: Mapster has the map. No waypoints, POI, etc |
| 09:53.07 | KriLL3 | tomtom, cromulent, handynotes |
| 09:53.21 | Torhal | Cromulent is actually ripper right out of Cart2 |
| 09:53.25 | Torhal | ripped* |
| 09:53.37 | MysticalOS | Cromulent? |
| 09:53.42 | Torhal | Zone info overlay |
| 09:53.46 | MysticalOS | ah |
| 09:53.47 | Torhal | Fishing/instances/etc |
| 09:54.08 | KriLL3 | well creative necromancy is useful at times I guess |
| 09:54.22 | orionshock | Torhal: mapster should do POI's like Cart2_POI, where all it does is add dots to the predefined points as given by the game. |
| 09:54.43 | KriLL3 | though I guess medieval villagers wouldn't agree |
| 09:54.45 | Torhal | orionshock: Why? Just make a HandyNotes plugin. |
| 09:54.53 | quiescens | a lot of people can't be bothered picking addons individually |
| 09:54.55 | Torhal | orionshock: Oh, you're talking about the 3.3 stuff... |
| 09:55.07 | MysticalOS | good mapster also works with rarespawnoverlay |
| 09:55.14 | orionshock | who ever wrote handynotes was on acid & i can't figure out how to make a module for it |
| 09:55.34 | Torhal | orionshock: Look at SilverDragon, or any of the HandyNotes_Whatever AddOns. |
| 09:55.37 | quiescens | and if the choice is between, install a whole UI worth in one go, and default ui |
| 09:55.48 | KriLL3 | wouldn't it be a good idea to make some kind of recommendation engine? if you install mapster it could recommend tomtom, handynotes, cromulent etc? |
| 09:56.14 | orionshock | Torhal: i did, more acid induced hallucinations that don't help >.> :( |
| 09:56.24 | Torhal | orionshock: Hehehe |
| 09:57.03 | orionshock | KriLL3: we usually suggest them all in one stint. usually not a problem & ppl switch in one go. |
| 09:57.14 | Torhal | orionshock: I wonder if Xinhuan actually does hallucinogenics... |
| 09:57.27 | KriLL3 | I've looked some at handynotes and it's plugins, seems all of them that have to do with town NPCs, trainers, vendors etc are all self discovery? do none of them have them pre-loaded? |
| 09:57.48 | MysticalOS | pretty much krill |
| 09:57.50 | orionshock | hallucinogens, Torhal :) |
| 09:57.54 | MysticalOS | i had to discover all mine |
| 09:57.55 | KriLL3 | orionshock: well true, but perhaps the authors should mention the other addons and link to them on the curse page? and perhaps something similar in the client |
| 09:58.06 | Torhal | orionshock: Meh. |
| 09:58.11 | Torhal | True, but meh. |
| 09:58.13 | Arrowmaster | most the handynotes plugins are preloaded i thought |
| 09:58.14 | orionshock | KriLL3: you'd prolly have an easier time doing that |
| 09:58.22 | MysticalOS | flightmasters is preloaded |
| 09:58.26 | MysticalOS | rest I had to discover |
| 09:58.34 | KriLL3 | yeah, like trainers, vendors etc in towns |
| 09:58.39 | MysticalOS | silverdragon's handynotes module is also preloaded |
| 09:58.39 | orionshock | Arrowmaster: thinks like CityGuide are dynamic & the trainers / vendors ones |
| 09:58.56 | orionshock | *things |
| 10:00.09 | KriLL3 | also a bit weird that handynotes doesn't appear in the normal addon menu |
| 10:00.29 | MysticalOS | my next highest m emory usage addon is questguru, if only i could find something i like just as much that doesn't use 2Megs idle, and as much as 10Megs when tracking quests |
| 10:00.50 | orionshock | MysticalOS: eh, default tracker + LightHeaded |
| 10:01.11 | MysticalOS | eww lightheaded is a major memory hog i disabled that long ago. |
| 10:01.17 | orionshock | ?? |
| 10:01.19 | MysticalOS | that can shoot up to like 30megs |
| 10:01.43 | Arrowmaster | you need to learn about static memory usage and how it doesnt mean shit |
| 10:01.43 | KriLL3 | MysticalOS: is questguru the less chubby cousin of questhelper? |
| 10:01.53 | orionshock | ? eh, it's using 8mb static atm, and i've been questing for the last 2 hrs |
| 10:01.54 | Torhal | Static memory usage has no impact on FPS or other gameplay aspects, unless you only have like 256-512MB of RAM on your machine. |
| 10:01.55 | MysticalOS | no |
| 10:02.23 | Torhal | It's the shit that generates 10MB that is immediately garbage collected (like Carbonite) that fucks you up. |
| 10:02.24 | orionshock | LH Proper is useing less than 1mb too |
| 10:02.24 | MysticalOS | it's a questlog replacement and tracker replacement, as well as announce. but it has no quest related help. just a complete questlog replacement |
| 10:02.53 | orionshock | why?? |
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| 10:03.12 | orionshock | the default log is now doublewide, the tracker is 100x better than before.. |
| 10:03.16 | Belazor | MysticalOS: Try disabling the History part of it |
| 10:03.19 | orionshock | have you tried the default ones recently? |
| 10:03.22 | Belazor | I did, and its not even on my top 10 |
| 10:03.22 | MysticalOS | hisotry part is disabled |
| 10:04.05 | MysticalOS | i hate the default tracker |
| 10:04.06 | orionshock | @describe betterquest |
| 10:04.06 | Repo | orionshock: No project found that matches 'betterquest' |
| 10:04.10 | orionshock | @describe better-quest |
| 10:04.12 | MysticalOS | fonts too big and ugly, too much spacing. I like a tight fit, i want to track every quest for the zone neatly. |
| 10:04.14 | Repo | orionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/better-quest/. BetterQuest. Better quest log and tracker |
| 10:05.02 | KriLL3 | guess it depends on how much you track, I usually don't track anything except active quests |
| 10:05.15 | KriLL3 | default works fine for that |
| 10:05.17 | orionshock | ^^ |
| 10:05.48 | orionshock | infact i have a ~15line stub of code in my testingGround's addon that removes completed quests from the tracker works like a charm |
| 10:05.50 | KriLL3 | does the default have the quest items next to the progress or does questhelper do that? |
| 10:05.53 | Torhal | MysticalOS: There is also http://www.wowace.com/addons/tomquest2/ - YMMV |
| 10:06.02 | Torhal | KriLL3: Default does it now |
| 10:06.06 | KriLL3 | nice |
| 10:08.22 | KriLL3 | no need for the quest item button in autobar then |
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| 10:09.56 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1233 / (12 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 10:09.58 | Repo | - GridCore - Remove annoying checks for missing optional libraries, again. |
| 10:09.59 | Repo | - GridLocale-zhCN - Fix range check for zhCN (ticket #166). |
| 10:10.00 | Repo | - GridStatusHealth - Remove unnecessary function calls for formatting health texts. |
| 10:10.01 | Repo | - Various cleanups of trailing whitespaces, inconsistent indents, and like annoyances. |
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| 10:10.02 | Torhal | KriLL3: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/qbar.aspx |
| 10:10.39 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 10:11.01 | Torhal | shrugs. |
| 10:11.22 | KriLL3 | if I don't need a quest item button in autobar why would I need a bar with quest items? =P |
| 10:12.00 | Torhal | Eh, I found the popups on AutoBar to be annoying. |
| 10:12.08 | KriLL3 | yeah they are |
| 10:12.12 | KriLL3 | tends to stick |
| 10:13.05 | Torhal | I actually replaced AutoBar with OPie. |
| 10:14.25 | KriLL3 | looks cool, but do you need to populate it manually? or does it do the same food/water etc stuff? |
| 10:15.08 | Torhal | It comes with some pre-loaded stuff, and class-specific preloads, but the rest you have to populate manually. |
| 10:15.22 | Torhal | I use it for tradeskills, demon summons, and a few other things. |
| 10:15.45 | synthetic | anyone using http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/diminishingreturns.aspx ? |
| 10:15.53 | Torhal | I use buffet for health/mana, unless I want to use buff food. Then, I have no problem opening the bag frame |
| 10:16.20 | KriLL3 | Torhal: ah, yeah for some reason warlocks like round UIs |
| 10:17.16 | Torhal | Round had nothing to do with it. Necrosis made me want to shoot random people. |
| 10:17.30 | Torhal | I like the fact that it doesn't exist until I tell it to, then it goes away. |
| 10:18.06 | Torhal | ALT+T - radial menu of all my tradeskills. Select one, window opens, menu disappears. |
| 10:20.48 | KriLL3 | I've set autobar to be transparent in combat, and only shows if I mouse over where it is out of combat |
| 10:21.04 | KriLL3 | can't show at all in combat, since nothing on it is usable in combat |
| 10:22.13 | Torhal | Eh, I just seem to find shit easier when it's spread out in a certain area rather than looking up and down a vertical bar for an icon. |
| 10:22.26 | KriLL3 | mine's horizontal |
| 10:22.45 | Torhal | And there is no way to accidentally mouse over the wrong button - OPie only shows what I want it to show,. |
| 10:23.12 | Torhal | But anywho - all preference. |
| 10:23.24 | Wobin | <3 opie |
| 10:23.38 | Wobin | the auto quest item ring is awesome |
| 10:23.59 | KriLL3 | isn't that redundant with the quest tracker having em? |
| 10:24.26 | Torhal | KriLL3: Depends on whether or not you'd like to have them all in your face for easy pickings or to scan the quest log to find the one you want to use. |
| 10:25.34 | Wobin | you can only track a certain number of quests at a time |
| 10:25.41 | Wobin | and it takes up a lot of real estate |
| 10:25.51 | KriLL3 | I wish some addon checked my current target/location and made a keybind use the right quest item, though I guess that would be a memory eater extraordinaire |
| 10:25.53 | Wobin | and you -still- have to move your mouse to the tracker |
| 10:26.16 | KriLL3 | hmm and active quests ofc |
| 10:27.26 | Torhal | Heh. Bought three engineering recpies in Shattrath last night for 15g from the wind trader in Lower City. Sold one of them last night for 22g, a second tonight for 27g |
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| 10:41.50 | mitch0 | torhal: scammer :P |
| 10:44.21 | Torhal | mitch0: To clarify: I spent 15g TOTAL on the three recipes. |
| 10:44.33 | mitch0 | got that |
| 10:44.41 | Torhal | :D |
| 10:45.48 | Torhal | The real scam, though, is the fact that last Winter Veil I bought around 10 each of the eggnog and gingerbread recipes (30c each, I believe) and around May I started selling them for 30G apiece. |
| 10:47.04 | mitch0 | [<some-space>[plugin1]<spacing>[plugin2]<some-space>] <- it's a bar with plugins on it. what to call the <some-space> part given that the <spacing> part is called "Spacing". Left/Right Offset, or Padding, or Inset? |
| 10:47.08 | KriLL3 | why do people insist on buying stuff at the AH you can buy from vendors? out of season or wrong faction etc I get, but not the rest |
| 10:47.26 | Torhal | mitch0: Margin? |
| 10:47.42 | yoshimo | because they dont know that they can save money and get it cheaper elsewhere? |
| 10:47.48 | Arrowmaster | because they are lazy |
| 10:47.50 | Torhal | KriLL3: Ignorance. I constantly have people asking where the hell I got my Netherwing drakes. |
| 10:47.59 | Arrowmaster | that too |
| 10:48.09 | KriLL3 | Torhal: well that's hard to know if you're fairly new and didn't do endgame TBC |
| 10:48.09 | mitch0 | torhal: good. |
| 10:48.17 | KriLL3 | you don't ever see them if you just level in TBC content |
| 10:48.24 | Arrowmaster | i had people asking me where i got my netherwing drake right after patch 2.1 |
| 10:48.31 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 10:48.36 | Torhal | I love it when I see stacks of shit on the AH that is below vendor price. Always see that. |
| 10:48.36 | Brybry | it's not that hard to look up something on wowhead/etc |
| 10:49.08 | KriLL3 | Torhal: sadly there isn't any way to profit from the AH on my server, too many people |
| 10:49.16 | Arrowmaster | i did have like the 4th faction netherwing drake on the server though so i really got hit up by the idiots early on |
| 10:49.31 | KriLL3 | I was early also, and yeah same |
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| 10:49.39 | Arrowmaster | only 4th because i went to sleep that morning instead of waiting for the dailies to reset |
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| 10:49.44 | synthetic | last macro and im all done :) |
| 10:49.44 | KriLL3 | can you still get em btw? |
| 10:49.55 | Arrowmaster | netherwing drake? yeah |
| 10:50.05 | Torhal | KriLL3: You can now get them all. |
| 10:50.07 | KriLL3 | ah, just requires a couple weeks of dailies I take it? |
| 10:50.17 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: you could always get them all |
| 10:50.18 | Torhal | Used to have to pick only one. |
| 10:50.23 | KriLL3 | no |
| 10:50.27 | KriLL3 | could buy more in shattrath |
| 10:50.38 | Torhal | No, you buy the rest at Netherwing Ledge |
| 10:50.40 | yoshimo | you can do it even faster if you collect netherwings eggs |
| 10:51.02 | KriLL3 | back when the content was new the eggs were rarer than a good healer |
| 10:51.03 | yoshimo | there shouldnt be many players farming them now |
| 10:51.05 | Torhal | The quest to choose the drake you want ends in Shatt |
| 10:51.30 | KriLL3 | hmm, recall buying more in shattrath, guess I did it a the ledge |
| 10:51.41 | Arrowmaster | KriLL3: hehe i was getting more eggs an hour than youll believe that first week of 2.1 |
| 10:51.48 | Arrowmaster | i had the points memorized |
| 10:51.52 | KriLL3 | did you use a model cheat? =P |
| 10:51.54 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 10:52.12 | KriLL3 | some people replaced the eggs with beams of light going into the sky |
| 10:52.24 | KriLL3 | a bit hard to compete against, though ofc bannable |
| 10:53.34 | KriLL3 | guess people do the same with everfrost, though I've actually gotten 2 without trying |
| 10:53.38 | KriLL3 | first time I didn't get any |
| 10:53.52 | Torhal | Meh. Sleep for real this time. |
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| 10:54.06 | KriLL3 | sleep is for the weak |
| 10:54.21 | synthetic | **/cleartarget |
| 10:54.35 | synthetic | **/targetenemy |
| 10:54.43 | synthetic | **/cast pounce |
| 10:55.17 | yoshimo | krill, the enhanced everfrost chips have been added to wows checks, so that isnt a good idea as of now |
| 10:55.19 | KriLL3 | what are the ** for? |
| 10:55.21 | synthetic | i need to intergrate that with another macro |
| 10:55.29 | synthetic | so command isnt sent to irc |
| 10:55.38 | KriLL3 | " " works |
| 10:55.39 | yoshimo | . a single leading / is the sign for command in the ircchat |
| 10:55.53 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: I'd never do something like that, don't feel like loosing my account to grind a bit faster |
| 10:56.23 | synthetic | i need yo intergrate that with another macro wich is feral charge mouseover |
| 10:56.42 | synthetic | **/cast [target=mouseover,harm] Feral Charge - Cat; Feral Charge - Cat |
| 10:56.45 | yoshimo | i didnt say you would/should do that ;) |
| 10:56.53 | synthetic | **/cast Feral Charge - Cat |
| 10:57.36 | synthetic | id have to put stance:1,nomod,stealth |
| 10:57.39 | sztanpet | just hold ctrl when pressing enter, so you dont have to put those ** in front of the commands |
| 10:57.49 | synthetic | oh ok thanks :) |
| 10:58.00 | KriLL3 | in chatzilla a simple space in front works |
| 10:58.06 | sztanpet | or that |
| 10:58.06 | yoshimo | id say, a lot of people cheated during brewfest but i cant prove that ;) |
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| 10:58.26 | KriLL3 | hmm, what was there to find during brewfest? |
| 10:59.02 | synthetic | so how can i intergrate, /cleartarget, /targetenemy. /cast pounce into the above feral charge cat mouseover/target macro? |
| 10:59.16 | yoshimo | those brewfesttokens to earn the brewfestitems, so people speedhacked on the ramquest to get more tokens |
| 10:59.56 | KriLL3 | did that benefit you any over just doing it the right way? |
| 11:00.25 | yoshimo | i think it was very difficult to get enough tokens to buy ALL available items., but not really |
| 11:00.43 | yoshimo | i got my title and all except one achievement without |
| 11:00.51 | KriLL3 | hmm well I got the achievement for brewfest without really trying |
| 11:01.38 | yoshimo | me too, only missing the mounts from direbrew, this bastard |
| 11:01.48 | KriLL3 | well those are uber rare |
| 11:01.57 | KriLL3 | and the kodo is kinda pointless for a horde character |
| 11:02.18 | yoshimo | i have seen him dropping mounts only once, and he dropped both, no luck ;) |
| 11:02.45 | KriLL3 | never even seen the mount drop |
| 11:02.51 | KriLL3 | and I went there like very day |
| 11:03.15 | yoshimo | we did that too, even including alts, to increase the chance ;) |
| 11:03.24 | KriLL3 | ofc it's the same with ToC HC, done it 20+ times, each day since I hit 80 on this char, not even seen a marrowstrike |
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| 11:03.42 | yoshimo | whats marrowstrike? |
| 11:03.48 | KriLL3 | polearm |
| 11:04.08 | KriLL3 | 219 itemlevel, from paletress |
| 11:04.13 | yoshimo | we spent a lot of time on normal mode getting everyones trinkets |
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| 11:04.37 | KriLL3 | I'd like the tanking trinket but I don't know if I have it in me to farm a normal instance |
| 11:04.54 | KriLL3 | annoying that there seems to be a total of 0 tanking trinkets for marks |
| 11:05.18 | yoshimo | trial of the crusader, ulduar maybe? |
| 11:05.31 | KriLL3 | I'm not raiding material |
| 11:06.16 | Wobin | tanking trinkets for marks? |
| 11:06.30 | KriLL3 | emblems if you prefer |
| 11:06.33 | Wobin | oh |
| 11:06.37 | Wobin | I thought you meant marksman =P |
| 11:06.41 | KriLL3 | ?... |
| 11:06.46 | Wobin | and was going "buh?" |
| 11:06.53 | yoshimo | amazon giftcards are out of stock for germany :( |
| 11:06.56 | KriLL3 | melee hunter is tank! |
| 11:07.04 | Wobin | anyhoo, the Black Heart is easy to farm |
| 11:07.08 | Wobin | as long as you take an enchanter with you |
| 11:07.16 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 11:07.24 | Wobin | to DE the other stuff |
| 11:07.29 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 11:07.32 | yoshimo | farming enchanting materials , we do that too |
| 11:07.42 | Wobin | help gear up some more nooby guildies =) |
| 11:08.03 | Wobin | I totally want marrowstrike on my hunter =( |
| 11:08.06 | Wobin | never seen it drop |
| 11:08.16 | KriLL3 | I take my blue leveling geared brother along in heroics, sadly almost nothing drops that either of us need/want |
| 11:08.25 | KriLL3 | Wobin: same, except I'm feral |
| 11:08.29 | KriLL3 | and been there 20+ times |
| 11:08.31 | Wobin | what class is your brother? |
| 11:08.39 | KriLL3 | that char is warrior |
| 11:09.01 | Wobin | there's some good plate drops in normal |
| 11:09.03 | KriLL3 | though he has a level 80 of most classes, except rogue (leveling one now), druid, paladin and priest |
| 11:09.26 | KriLL3 | in HC also, and I've seen all of them, usually when the party has 0 plate wearers =P |
| 11:09.28 | yoshimo | i havent seen the mace from heroic difficulty yet, but i got something better in toc10 |
| 11:09.54 | KriLL3 | we greed 90% of the drops in ToC HC |
| 11:09.58 | Wobin | Mariel's Sorrow? |
| 11:10.14 | Wobin | I had two of those |
| 11:10.22 | Wobin | (til I replaced them with tankards =P) |
| 11:10.31 | Wobin | on my enh sham |
| 11:10.38 | KriLL3 | got some int leather there also |
| 11:10.43 | KriLL3 | not that I'll ever use it |
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| 11:18.42 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r103 / (3 files in 3 directories): |
| 11:18.44 | Repo | add left/right margin setting, fix nonexistent ticket from Belazor |
| 11:19.09 | Belazor | hey I was going to do it, but then I got stuck configing other addons |
| 11:19.20 | Belazor | It was fscking late last night |
| 11:19.20 | mitch0 | :P |
| 11:19.23 | Belazor | =( |
| 11:20.37 | mitch0 | I still wonder whether I should add bar-style display or not (extending LDB with .barValue = [0 .. 1.0] |
| 11:31.43 | mitch0 | hm. the idea doesn't seem to spark a heated discussion :P |
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| 11:35.14 | Arrowmaster | ask it at a better time |
| 11:35.55 | mitch0 | ~better time |
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| 12:45.40 | Repo | 10grid: 03ananhaid * r1234 / (2 files in 1 directory): Grid: |
| 12:45.42 | Repo | - zhCN update. |
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| 13:05.57 | Wobin | Torhal|Sleep, http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=174214151705 (not sure if you can read that link) |
| 13:06.06 | Wobin | but a friend of mine took it upon herself to read the series |
| 13:06.21 | Wobin | so she could get a better understanding of her students |
| 13:07.10 | Wobin | 13. The perfect man boasts about his strength and ability to kill you while smashing trees that never did anything to him. That is, like, the hottest thing a man can do. The only thing hotter is being snow-white, hairless and blindingly sparkly in the sunlight. |
| 13:07.15 | Mikk | Well, let's see... #1 is right if you substitute "women" for "men" |
| 13:07.31 | Wobin | Mikk, this is all interpreted from the series, see |
| 13:07.43 | Wobin | this is how -Bella- is written |
| 13:07.45 | Kalroth | haha |
| 13:08.11 | Wobin | 11. Women: Don't think about life-changing decisions too much. You're just a girl, and thinking detracts away from sparkly lust time! |
| 13:08.24 | Wobin | I <3 Cam =) |
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| 13:11.43 | Trela | Are those quotes from the movie? |
| 13:11.52 | Trela | ...Book. |
| 13:12.02 | Trela | You know what, I missed half the conversation. |
| 13:12.05 | Trela | goes back to sleep. |
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| 13:13.37 | Wobin | that was a quick nap, trela =P |
| 13:14.03 | Trela | I reopened all the applications on my desktop. I disconnected on the laptop. :P |
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| 14:35.05 | Belazor | omfg Antiarc will get rogues nerfed XD |
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| 14:35.40 | Belazor | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/21043884738-rogue-weapon-swapping-isnt-a-big-deal.html |
| 14:36.00 | Fisker | what addon did he make now? |
| 14:36.23 | Fisker | oh |
| 14:37.00 | Belazor | lets all moan at him for nerfing the class |
| 14:37.01 | Belazor | XD |
| 14:37.27 | Kalroth | dont worry, it's an addon for rogues |
| 14:37.48 | Kalroth | colour me surprised if more than 5% gets past the "how maek it work lol" barrier |
| 14:38.05 | Belazor | MY ROGUE IS 71 AND IT WILL SUXX NOW OMFG HAET |
| 14:38.28 | Kalroth | hah, latest reply to the addon |
| 14:38.29 | Kalroth | "Can't make it work.They wont swap.U need to have both weapons to be OH not one hand? Or what should i do?" |
| 14:38.37 | Belazor | XDXD |
| 14:38.59 | CrazyBenny | lol |
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| 15:48.42 | KriLL3 | I can't move stuff from my combuctor bank frame... |
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| 16:11.49 | Ingela | question how much of a hacker am i if i know lua, css, html and vb? |
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| 16:12.01 | Ingela | fbi db next right |
| 16:12.16 | mitch0 | ingela: miniscule? :) |
| 16:12.45 | Ingela | :( |
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| 16:18.29 | Ingela | np: Midnight Players - Kung Fu Fighting |
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| 16:45.20 | Mikk | yeah css,html,vb = apprentice webmaster fresh out of a 3 month course |
| 16:45.32 | Mikk | lua is too odd to be known by most |
| 16:45.40 | Mikk | so hacker value is veeeeery low |
| 16:46.28 | Mikk | add some Perl for peer recognition value |
| 16:46.32 | Mikk | and then refuse to code in it |
| 16:47.24 | quiescens | why would someone have learned vb for web stuff |
| 16:47.32 | Mikk | quiescens: ASP |
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| 16:48.59 | Mikk | Ingela: but if web is what you want to be doing, brush up on Javascript. you pretty much need it to design competetive pages these days. |
| 16:49.20 | Mikk | or, well, anything with any amount of interactivity in anyway |
| 16:49.30 | nevcairiel | also, java, python, ruby, and maybe even php |
| 16:49.35 | nevcairiel | then you're set for web :P |
| 16:49.48 | KriLL3 | why cant I click profession links? using chatter. |
| 16:50.46 | quiescens | not a big fan of asp |
| 16:51.21 | KriLL3 | oh, last updated in april... might be why |
| 16:51.21 | quiescens | it seemed a lot like reinventing the existing cgi stuff |
| 16:51.54 | KriLL3 | oh man... ads on the client for chinese wives |
| 16:53.23 | KriLL3 | "real chinese women seeking real foreing men" with pervy pictures to boot... |
| 16:55.41 | Mikk | quiescens: with the very important exception that with cgi you need to start one process per page being served |
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| 17:09.50 | Ingela | thanks Mikk i'm gonna look into it =) |
| 17:09.50 | Repo | 10broker_repa: 03ansiik * r22 Broker_Repa.lua: update |
| 17:10.02 | Repo | 10death_tracker: 03ansiik * r87 Death_Tracker.lua: update |
| 17:10.04 | Ingela | i actually know a very small amount of php aswell |
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| 17:10.24 | nevcairiel | php isnt really big in professional web dev |
| 17:10.32 | nevcairiel | its all java |
| 17:10.39 | Repo | 10fubar_repafu: 03ansiik * r52 RepaFu.lua: update |
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| 17:14.52 | KriLL3 | ha! removed the ads from the client, just had to tinker with the hosts file =P |
| 17:15.21 | quiescens | effort |
| 17:15.24 | KriLL3 | sorry, don't want to see doubleclick.net ads for buy-a-wife |
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| 17:19.50 | SunTsu | crazy, I just won 30fps, thereby doubling my framerate - by moving WoW to a different disk |
| 17:20.14 | quiescens | that seems odd |
| 17:20.16 | KriLL3 | was the previous disc of the floppy variety? |
| 17:20.23 | nevcairiel | sounds implausible |
| 17:20.25 | SunTsu | looks like the original one was way too loaded |
| 17:20.29 | quiescens | floppy disk raid array |
| 17:20.37 | KriLL3 | quiescens: it's the future! |
| 17:20.41 | nevcairiel | once the files are loaded, it shouldnt affect FPS much |
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| 17:20.54 | quiescens | indeed |
| 17:21.09 | quiescens | unless you also happen to have 500mb of ram or something |
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| 17:21.24 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: I know, still WoW is running crazy smooth all of a sudden |
| 17:21.53 | mojosdojo | maybe a problem with the swap file? |
| 17:21.59 | SunTsu | now even peaking up to 80 fps, which I didn't see for a loooong time happening |
| 17:22.27 | nevcairiel | Maybe i should move wow back to my new drive |
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| 17:25.10 | SunTsu | I wonder how that might happen, can't think of a plausible reason |
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| 17:33.16 | KriLL3 | SunTsu: errm, what kind of display do you have? |
| 17:35.11 | Mikk | that's .... odd |
| 17:35.13 | SunTsu | KriLL3: Old 21" CRT |
| 17:35.13 | Mikk | very odd even |
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| 17:41.09 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.5 CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] update changelog |
| 17:41.17 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.5 * 503c120 /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.5 release |
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| 18:12.43 | FtH|Daemona | http://www.freeholidaywifi.com/ |
| 18:12.53 | FtH|Daemona | google being generous? ;) |
| 18:16.39 | Fisker | slaps FtH|Daemona around a bit with a large trout |
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| 18:24.39 | KriLL3 | level 70 DK that claims to have a JC ring from 80 dailies and refuses to link his trade skills and says "be quick about it" when he opens the trade window for the mats and fee... sure... why not?... =P |
| 18:24.43 | KriLL3 | not at all suspect |
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| 18:35.43 | ArrowmasterClass | KriLL3: report him for trying to scam people |
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| 18:40.31 | kadrahil | Antiarc will get rogues nerfed (Check PoisonSwapper) |
| 18:40.37 | kadrahil | lol |
| 18:41.04 | NivFreak | or buffed |
| 18:42.01 | kadrahil | :o |
| 18:42.13 | kadrahil | (and that was supposed to have quotes around it) |
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| 18:45.14 | KriLL3 | anyone knows how to patch wow after moving it? |
| 18:45.15 | KriLL3 | or after re-installing windows etc, basically no registry entries or wrong ones |
| 18:46.28 | Adremma | I have heard (but not tried it myself) that running the launcher (with admin rights if necessary) will automatically attempt to create/fix the registry entries |
| 18:46.39 | Antiarc | Run the WoW launcher as an admin, it'll create the entries |
| 18:48.53 | yoshimo | good to know, i always fixed it with regedit |
| 18:49.51 | FtH|Daemona | haha Antiarc have you been to http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php lately and searched for your nick? ;) |
| 18:49.56 | ulic | Antiarc: you see the blue post basically about PoisonSwitcher? I'm sure you probably have. |
| 18:49.57 | ulic | hehe |
| 18:50.21 | Antiarc | Yeah, I have :P |
| 18:50.24 | FtH|Daemona | hi-5's ulic. |
| 18:50.39 | ulic | Nerf Antiarc! |
| 18:50.42 | FtH|Daemona | at least it mumped your downloads ;) |
| 18:50.49 | FtH|Daemona | -mumped+bumped |
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| 18:51.50 | Bibi | hugs Antiarc |
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| 18:52.09 | Bibi | goes back to bed (with or without Antiarc, only time will tell) |
| 18:52.25 | yoshimo | blue post what did they say`? |
| 18:52.46 | Antiarc | Hehe, yay Bibi |
| 18:55.13 | ulic | they said we don't want to nerf rogues, but we might because Antiarc is awesome. |
| 18:56.14 | ulic | if only my rogue didn't suck and I had a spare weapon worth swapping with :) |
| 18:56.42 | mojosdojo | Does sort mts in ora3 work for someone? |
| 18:57.00 | mojosdojo | asking because it doesn't work here |
| 18:57.55 | Repo | 10poisonswapper: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.4.1 PoisonSwapper.lua: [+1 commit] Increase equip force buffer time to 3 seconds, allow for pending swap overrides in the case of a different requested swap |
| 18:58.02 | Repo | 10poisonswapper: 03Antiarc 04v0.4.1 * 3646a69 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.4.1 |
| 18:58.24 | Fisker | go hack some sc2 Antiarc :( |
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| 19:01.33 | sylvanaar | obj-C is so wierd |
| 19:02.11 | sylvanaar | i guess you get used to it like anything else - but still |
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| 19:09.45 | yoshimo | how far is inspectrange? |
| 19:13.35 | Fisker | over 9000 |
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| 19:33.18 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar * r47 Core.lua: - Added twin Valkyrs buff |
| 19:33.20 | Repo | - Modified the formula that computes displayed upgrade |
| 19:36.31 | KriLL3 | how do you use the custom format for timestamps in chatter? |
| 19:36.45 | KriLL3 | %H:%M:%s makes the chat vanish |
| 19:40.24 | Stanzilla | S |
| 19:42.48 | Fisker | slaps Stanzilla around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:42.59 | Stanzilla | Fisker: WOT |
| 19:43.14 | Repo | 10shadowgreenlight: 03Mokhtar 04v1.4.2 * r48 : Tagging as v1.4.2 |
| 19:43.25 | Fisker | you just ordered yourself a slap |
| 19:44.02 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r26 DailyIntake/: I want to completely replace everything. |
| 19:45.26 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r27 / (3 files in 1 directory): Repplace. |
| 19:45.33 | Stanzilla | Fisker: I never got my milk |
| 19:45.52 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:46.04 | Fisker | well i'm too busy :3'ing over the wow launcher |
| 19:48.14 | haste | people use the launcher? |
| 19:48.24 | Fisker | who wouldn't? |
| 19:48.47 | nevcairiel | they changed the freaking launcher so it changes the permissions of the WoW dir, probably so that it works around UAC support issues |
| 19:48.58 | nevcairiel | i hate them for it, no app should touch my filesystem permissions |
| 19:49.17 | nevcairiel | but yeah, i don't use it either =P |
| 19:50.24 | ckknight | Trela: ping |
| 19:50.37 | Fisker | owned by failure to install nevcairiel |
| 19:53.34 | Fisker | Anyways WoW Launcher = Battle.net launcher soon enough |
| 19:53.34 | Gnarfoz | just as much that, as blizz's failure to finally make wow UAC aware |
| 19:53.48 | Gnarfoz | hoho beta in 2010 |
| 19:53.54 | Gnarfoz | "soon" (tm) |
| 19:54.06 | Fisker | hohohoh |
| 19:54.15 | Fisker | I think the russians are made of lies |
| 19:54.24 | Fisker | or Blizzard is made of fail |
| 19:54.28 | Fisker | equally possible i guess |
| 19:54.37 | Fisker | i.e. halloween masks |
| 19:54.56 | Gnarfoz | i.e. fisker masks |
| 19:55.24 | Fisker | naw |
| 19:56.27 | haste | Fisker: I wouldn't, I just write wow and I expect the game to start |
| 19:56.37 | haste | Fisker: not a launcher to pop-up and annoy me with crap |
| 19:57.08 | Fisker | i just write wow and press enter twice |
| 19:57.09 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 19:57.30 | Fisker | but the sc2 stuff is interesting |
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| 20:02.59 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r28 DailyIntake.wowsln: New version of DailyIntake. |
| 20:06.11 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r29 DailyIntake.wowsln: fuck, this message typing bothers me |
| 20:06.25 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:06.45 | SunTsu | nevcairiel: Yeah, I wondered wtf wine suddenly wouldn't start WoW anymore - couldn't finde WoW.exe anymore, because of fscked permissions |
| 20:06.46 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r30 DailyIntake.wowsln: New version of DailyIntake. |
| 20:07.06 | nevcairiel | yeah on wine it totally breaks |
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| 20:14.14 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r31 DailyIntake.wowsln: dfslhg sfgkjskjhslktjh ketkj wtre |
| 20:14.18 | FtH|Daemona | :( german national soccer goal keeper probably commited suicide by getting in front of a train :( |
| 20:15.27 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r32 / (67 files in 9 directories): First checkin. |
| 20:16.19 | Megalon | well, it's more effective than throwing yourself behind the train |
| 20:16.27 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 20:16.43 | Stanzilla | I had to ask in guild chat who "robert enke" was :( |
| 20:16.53 | nevcairiel | yeah who cares about soccer |
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| 20:17.45 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 20:18.08 | nevcairiel | I bet that'll be top talk at the office tomorrow |
| 20:18.14 | nevcairiel | all they talk about is work or soccer |
| 20:19.18 | chiper | mmm, WoR's guild recruitment tool is pretty spiffy |
| 20:19.38 | chiper | pretty much done the way I would have written it |
| 20:21.51 | NivFreak | can you unlock algalon for a raid and then leave? |
| 20:22.39 | yoshimo | selling algalon tries nivfreak? ;) |
| 20:22.55 | chiper | wouldn't it save you? |
| 20:23.02 | NivFreak | I don't care, it's my alt |
| 20:23.05 | chiper | ah |
| 20:23.09 | NivFreak | it would be for a guild group that doesn't have a key |
| 20:23.27 | NivFreak | hell, I wouldn't actually care on my main either ;) |
| 20:23.32 | NivFreak | but he lacks a key :P |
| 20:23.41 | chiper | how does that work, anyway? I thought you had to do hard mode for all 4 keepers every time |
| 20:23.46 | NivFreak | nah |
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| 20:23.53 | NivFreak | you walk over to a control console before kolgarn |
| 20:23.55 | NivFreak | and click it |
| 20:24.01 | NivFreak | and it opens algalon's room |
| 20:24.12 | NivFreak | IC is off to the left of the stairs, algalon to the right |
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| 20:24.28 | FtH|Daemona | NivFreak if you can be ported, it should be easy to test without clicking the accept button |
| 20:24.30 | chiper | so how do you get the key? |
| 20:24.45 | FtH|Daemona | you do a quest? aka the disk thing |
| 20:24.51 | FtH|Daemona | kill all keeper in hard mode |
| 20:24.55 | NivFreak | you kill IC hard mode, get the quest item (1 per kill) and then kill the 4 watchers in hard mode |
| 20:24.58 | chiper | ah, so it's just the one time |
| 20:25.02 | NivFreak | ya |
| 20:25.07 | chiper | kk |
| 20:25.11 | NivFreak | only one person in the raid needs a key |
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| 20:27.04 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r33 / (4 files in 2 directories): New version of DailyIntake. |
| 20:27.56 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r34 : fuck, this message typing bothers me |
| 20:28.20 | FtH|Daemona | haha, probably he should just write why he pushed the change ,) |
| 20:28.22 | Hirsute | 0.o |
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| 20:28.33 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r35 DailyIntake (68 files in 9 directories): New version of DailyIntake. |
| 20:30.14 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r36 : Tagging as Beta |
| 20:32.38 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r37 DailyIntake (3 files in 2 directories): New version of DailyIntake. |
| 20:34.21 | sb|work | @describe dailyintake |
| 20:34.24 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dailyintake/. DailyIntake. Provides help with daily quests, making them easier, faster and more efficient. Features: Creates one macro to use all your d... |
| 20:37.22 | durcyn | does that fuckwit realize people are watching him being a fuckwit |
| 20:37.37 | Archarodim | Is there something like that: http://www.kmoser.com/articles/Good_Programming_Practices.php specificly about WoW Add-ons programming? |
| 20:39.57 | Antiarc | Is Repo broken? |
| 20:39.59 | Antiarc | I can't commit |
| 20:40.28 | Archarodim | something targeted to Lua and the fact that for example calling repeatedly a global function is not a good idea and similar other aspects? |
| 20:42.32 | Primer | I think that this whole "calling of a global function in lua" is a deficiency in lua |
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| 20:43.05 | Primer | it's pretty stupid for the interpreter to not just place a pointer to where the function is at that point in the code |
| 20:43.11 | Archarodim | yes it doesn't optimize anything, it does exactly as it's told |
| 20:43.21 | Primer | instead, it just looks it up every time? come on! |
| 20:44.01 | Primer | No other interpreted language that I know of does that |
| 20:44.26 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r38 DailyIntake/DailyIntake/Changelog.txt: New version of DailyIntake. |
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| 20:44.39 | Archarodim | it's the same if you use a variable like self.db.profile.somesetting |
| 20:45.02 | Archarodim | it will do the path at each occurence |
| 20:45.35 | Primer | yet, other languages can do hash table lookups virtually instantaneously |
| 20:46.37 | Archarodim | noone has done a documentation about those specific aspects and how to optimise your code? |
| 20:47.15 | doobius | http://old.wowace.com/wiki/Coding_Tips |
| 20:47.26 | doobius | nothing comprehensive |
| 20:48.12 | airtonix | wowuidev has become so much more passionate since i was here last time |
| 20:48.17 | airtonix | and wowace too |
| 20:49.16 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r171 Emotes/Emotes.lua: FIX: Player name detection. |
| 20:49.25 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r172 PersonalNotes/PersonalNotes.lua: Migration change. |
| 20:54.34 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r39 : Deleting tag. |
| 20:55.14 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r40 DailyIntake/Beta/: Tagging as Beta. |
| 20:56.28 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r28 embeds.xml: Fixed library loading order. |
| 20:56.57 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r41 DailyIntake/Beta/DailyIntake/Changelog.txt: Cant get packager to work. |
| 20:58.08 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r29 flagRSP2.toc: Version increase. |
| 20:58.40 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:58.49 | Fisker | slaps kadrahil around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:59.17 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r173 Emotes/Emotes.lua: FIX: Player name detection. |
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| 21:01.31 | Repo | 10poisonswapper: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.4.2 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Add AceTimer back in. AceBucket needs it. Oops. |
| 21:02.39 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r31 .hgtags: Added tag 2.2.2 Release for changeset e24026a8fcca |
| 21:03.54 | FtH|Daemona | who took me bukket? |
| 21:05.09 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r42 DailyIntake/Beta (2 files in 2 directories): New version of DailyIntake. |
| 21:05.58 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:08.11 | Fisker | slaps kadrahil around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:09.04 | Belazor | youd think antiarc would stop making poisonswapper now that rogues are being nerfed because of him, but nooo |
| 21:09.04 | Belazor | XD |
| 21:10.26 | Primer | about time |
| 21:10.39 | Antiarc | Hey man, I made $0.008115 off of PoisonSwapper yesterday |
| 21:10.42 | Antiarc | I'm rolling in the money now |
| 21:10.49 | Primer | it's just great having a rogue sneak up on you, make you unable to control your character at all, and die |
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| 21:11.01 | Antiarc | PoisonSwapper is primarily a PVE addon |
| 21:11.02 | Fisker | what did you make today? |
| 21:11.03 | Antiarc | Also get more HP |
| 21:11.13 | Antiarc | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/poisonswapper.aspx |
| 21:11.29 | Antiarc | It got a response from GC and me on the front page of mmo-champ \o/ |
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| 21:11.58 | Fisker | you know owe Bibi atleast $0.004 |
| 21:12.19 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: now make a shadowpriest addon that boosts our dps by 1k, thanks |
| 21:12.35 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04beta * r43 : Tagging as beta |
| 21:12.42 | Antiarc | Stanzilla: poof, done! I'll call it "3.3"! |
| 21:13.03 | Stanzilla | no that is not enough :( |
| 21:13.07 | Trela | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK! |
| 21:13.26 | Megalon | jesusmotherfuckingdeathchrist2k |
| 21:13.26 | Trela | Damn WoWAce hg repository just erased itself and I updated to it. >.< |
| 21:13.36 | Stanzilla | lol |
| 21:16.18 | FtH|Daemona | Antiarc you should add some smart code to poisonswapper, if dp drops, increase buffer by 1 second ;) |
| 21:16.39 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r33 / (10 files in 3 directories): P.S. WoWAce's hg repository tagger is broken. |
| 21:16.59 | Antiarc | FtH|Daemona: There's a slash command for you to do that! :P |
| 21:17.08 | FtH|Daemona | woah ! |
| 21:17.10 | Antiarc | And a bad streak of luck could jack the buffer way up |
| 21:17.15 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.31 | FtH|Daemona | but its not documented on /ps or the ldb tooltip !! |
| 21:17.37 | FtH|Daemona | i need it to be idiot proof ! |
| 21:17.38 | Antiarc | I am teh lazies |
| 21:17.48 | FtH|Daemona | nuttin new dude |
| 21:17.59 | NivFreak | is your pvp mode commited? |
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| 21:18.08 | Antiarc | Yes |
| 21:18.15 | NivFreak | automatic or toggled? |
| 21:18.20 | Antiarc | Automatic |
| 21:18.27 | FtH|Daemona | will 10th of seconds break it? ;) |
| 21:18.27 | Antiarc | If the target is player controlled and flagged it uses PVP mode |
| 21:18.28 | NivFreak | so just stick 4 poisoned offhands in your bag? |
| 21:18.43 | Antiarc | I dunno, FtH|Daemona, try it :P |
| 21:19.44 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r44 DailyIntake/: Faulty structure |
| 21:21.35 | chiper | wants a grid module to make it switch to 40man when in wintergrasp |
| 21:22.18 | genetik- | i thought it had that functionality built in already |
| 21:22.23 | yoshimo | didnt they change that already? |
| 21:22.51 | yoshimo | Ticket 151 - Change to battleground layout when outside in a pvp combat zone. |
| 21:22.58 | chiper | hmm |
| 21:23.00 | yoshimo | r1232 | greltok | 2009-11-10 02:43:40 +0000 (Tue, 10 Nov 2009) | 1 line |
| 21:23.02 | chiper | hasnt been doing it |
| 21:23.24 | yoshimo | your version might be too old |
| 21:23.26 | chiper | ah, he just did it today |
| 21:23.36 | yoshimo | has been a while since the last releasetag |
| 21:23.48 | NeoTron | Antiarc: will this addon also work great on my warlock? |
| 21:24.02 | chiper | well good to know there's a fix waiting for me |
| 21:24.10 | Antiarc | NeoTron: Yup, just dandy! |
| 21:24.15 | Antiarc | It'll run the first line of code line a champ |
| 21:24.18 | Antiarc | (then give up and go home) |
| 21:24.19 | NeoTron | heh |
| 21:24.29 | Antiarc | local _, c = UnitClass("player") |
| 21:24.29 | Antiarc | if c ~= "ROGUE" then return end |
| 21:25.43 | yoshimo | chiper i already filed a ticket for a new release so everyone gets fixes& a new lhc4 |
| 21:25.51 | Shefki | local _, n = UnitName("player") |
| 21:26.02 | Shefki | if n == "Antiarc" then explode end |
| 21:26.03 | chiper | yoshimo: kewl |
| 21:26.37 | Balreign | if c == "PALADIN" then SetModeRunQuicklyFarAwayFromCheatedClass() end |
| 21:27.37 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r109 / (8 files in 2 directories): OMGWTFBBQ |
| 21:28.24 | yoshimo | chiper , im not sure how fast tickets on grid are handled though ;) |
| 21:28.31 | chiper | heh |
| 21:28.57 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r110 libs/ (2 files in 2 directories): More fixes. |
| 21:29.14 | yoshimo | well there was the rumor of a grid2 coming out "soon" (tm) |
| 21:29.44 | chiper | were there rumors of what would be new? |
| 21:30.12 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r111 images (2 files in 1 directory): More fixes, the remix. |
| 21:30.26 | Stanzilla | r-r-r-reeeemix |
| 21:30.26 | yoshimo | there is a forum topic on that |
| 21:31.10 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:31.27 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana * r112 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:31.30 | Repo | Fixed version number and added localization to SVN repository. |
| 21:32.11 | chiper | ah, think I found the forum post |
| 21:33.11 | Megalon | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/ultra_realistic_modern_warfare |
| 21:33.11 | Megalon | :> |
| 21:33.19 | Fisker | slaps kadrahil around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:33.38 | Repo | 10flag-rsp2: 03Azxiana 042.2.2 Release * r113 : Tagging as 2.2.2 Release |
| 21:37.58 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04beta * r45 : Deleting tag. |
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| 21:41.14 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r46 / (64 files in 8 directories): DailyIntake check in. |
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| 21:44.37 | FtH|Daemona | outa curiosity, why did you remove the check for energy > 60? ;) |
| 21:45.26 | Antiarc | Because some folks pool energy for Mut spam after an envenom |
| 21:45.40 | Antiarc | And you don't want that preventing swaps and causing your stack to drop |
| 21:45.42 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r47 / (2 files in 1 directory): New version of DailyIntake. |
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| 21:46.49 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r48 : Tagging as Beta |
| 21:48.52 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r49 Changelog.txt: I don't know what to say. |
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| 21:52.20 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r50 DailyIntake.wowsuo: I don't know what to say. |
| 21:54.05 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r51 : Deleting tag. |
| 21:55.12 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r52 : Tagging as Beta. |
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| 21:57.41 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r53 Changelog.txt: I don't know what to say. |
| 21:58.04 | FtH|Daemona | someone should tell Jaerro to push less -.- |
| 21:58.43 | kadrahil | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:03.38 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r54 / (3 files in 1 directory): Braaaaainnsss..... |
| 22:04.56 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04beta * r55 : Tagging as beta |
| 22:05.53 | ulic | wonders what happens when you make two tags with the same name. Guess the first just get's overwritten. |
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| 22:06.42 | CrazyBenny | what addon can I use instead of cowtip? |
| 22:06.59 | Antiarc | TipTac |
| 22:07.12 | CrazyBenny | thanks, gonan give it a try |
| 22:15.37 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04v1.0 * r56 : Tagging as v1.0 |
| 22:18.16 | ulic | shortest beta phase ever? |
| 22:18.24 | kadrahil | haha |
| 22:18.44 | ulic | @describe dailyintake |
| 22:18.44 | Repo | ulic: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dailyintake/. DailyIntake. Provides help with daily quests, making them easier, faster and more efficient. Features: Creates one macro to use all your d... |
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| 22:26.49 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r57 / (2 files in 1 directory): Updated Changelog.txt to show sensible text. |
| 22:30.27 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r58 / (2 files in 1 directory): Braaaaainnsss..... |
| 22:32.00 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r59 : Braaaaainnsss..... |
| 22:32.21 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04beta * r60 : Braaaaainnsss..... |
| 22:32.37 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04v1.0 * r61 : Braaaaainnsss..... |
| 22:32.39 | Gnarfoz | @describe bankstack |
| 22:32.40 | Repo | Gnarfoz: No project found that matches 'bankstack' |
| 22:32.43 | yoshimo | i vote for useful commitmessages |
| 22:32.43 | Gnarfoz | @describe bank-stack |
| 22:32.44 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bank-stack/. BankStack. From bags we came, to bank we return |
| 22:32.48 | Gnarfoz | arghl |
| 22:32.53 | Gnarfoz | @project bank-stack |
| 22:32.54 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bank-stack/. BankStack. Game: WoW. Kemayo (Manager/Author). Updated: 31 days ago. Tickets: 6/16 |
| 22:33.11 | Gnarfoz | ~seen kemayo |
| 22:33.13 | purl | kemayo <n=kemayo@adsl-76-214-53-246.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 26d 18h 14m 32s ago, saying: 'Torhal: Hah, yes, I totally missed that. Thanks! :D'. |
| 22:33.21 | WobWork | bank api drove me insane |
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| 22:33.31 | WobWork | cause there is no way to figure out what you have on the cursor |
| 22:33.50 | Gnarfoz | don't know about that at all |
| 22:33.54 | WobWork | and shared locality guaranteed you had -no- guarantee that an item was where it was 2 seconds ago |
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| 22:34.12 | Gnarfoz | however, I get lots of "confusion. stopping" errors with multiple stacks of stuff around |
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| 22:39.46 | Megalon | Gnarfoz: bankstack gets confused if you have server stacks in your inv that can be compressed |
| 22:39.59 | Gnarfoz | ser what |
| 22:40.02 | Gnarfoz | several, you mean |
| 22:40.08 | Gnarfoz | yes, that's exactly the situation |
| 22:40.24 | Gnarfoz | quickauctions likes to leave that kind of mess behind |
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| 22:40.40 | Gnarfoz | 6 stacks of 3 each, of an item that stacks to 20 |
| 22:40.46 | Gnarfoz | bankstack will merge once, then stop |
| 22:41.01 | Megalon | just tell it to compress inv |
| 22:41.19 | Megalon | or hammer the ldb icon until everything is compressed ;x |
| 22:41.26 | Axodious | so, with the new map additions and quest additions to the ptr do you guys think there will be new quest helper type mods? maybe a lighter version that incorporates the built in additions? |
| 22:41.31 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r62 / (2 files in 1 directory): Tagging as Beta. |
| 22:42.37 | MysticalOS | i'm hoping with blizz's changes the current quest helper addons either go away, or become much ligher, right now they are horrid resource hogs and flood the addon2addon channels with useless garbage |
| 22:42.45 | MysticalOS | especially carbonite. |
| 22:43.02 | Axodious | i like what they have so far but its still lacking some big things |
| 22:43.12 | yoshimo | what? |
| 22:43.19 | Axodious | like carb/qh show a general area for a quest |
| 22:43.24 | Axodious | though they might not want to add that |
| 22:43.43 | MysticalOS | i think blizz is showing general area too in 3.3 |
| 22:43.53 | MysticalOS | if anything what blizz would be lacking would be waypoints and route planning |
| 22:43.58 | Axodious | on the ptr right now i don't see it |
| 22:44.14 | MysticalOS | you enable the checkbox on map? |
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| 22:44.43 | Axodious | ack |
| 22:44.46 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro 04Beta * r63 : Tagging as Beta |
| 22:44.48 | Axodious | my map has been minimized lol |
| 22:44.57 | Axodious | just noticed they changed the full screen map |
| 22:44.58 | Axodious | a lot |
| 22:45.04 | MysticalOS | yes |
| 22:45.14 | MysticalOS | should have objective based tracking |
| 22:45.50 | Axodious | i can only see the 2 complete quests atm |
| 22:45.57 | Axodious | none of my active ones |
| 22:46.31 | Repo | 10little-wigs-tbc: 03ulic * r21 / (24 files in 3 directories): |
| 22:46.48 | Repo | Drycode convert of Auchindoun to BW3 (localizations will need to be copy/pasted to web translations, I fail at foreign copy/paste) |
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| 22:49.02 | ulic | Axodious: I believe you can toggle the quests that show up on the map. |
| 22:49.43 | Axodious | i have all the quests being tracked, but right now its only showing where to go to hand in complete ones |
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| 22:50.54 | Axodious | what im talking about is like in carbonite it puts a color blob on the map telling you that there is something to do with your quest there |
| 22:52.27 | Axodious | ah |
| 22:52.33 | Axodious | it seems some of the quests arent working still |
| 22:52.40 | Axodious | just got some more (argent dailies) and they are showing |
| 22:54.47 | Repo | 10dailyintake: 03Jaerro * r64 / (5 files in 1 directory): Tagging as Beta. |
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| 23:06.10 | Repo | 10little-wigs-tbc: 03ulic * r22 Auchindoun (2 files in 1 directory): Missed a couple OnEnable -> OnBossEnable |
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