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| 00:02.46 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 00:02.59 | Shadowed | AceComm-3.0 really needs some native support for blocking addon whispers sent to offline people |
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| 00:10.30 | Yssaril | Shadowed: kinda hard to detect if someone is offline (though it should block the error message and stop sending multipart messages to that person on the error) |
| 00:10.42 | Shadowed | Not really :p |
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| 00:11.08 | Shadowed | Add a filter for CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM, if you get an offline message then stop sending multipart, and fire some sort of event |
| 00:11.25 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.7b / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 00:11.28 | Shadowed | since that way you know when you can reset your own flags |
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| 00:11.46 | Repo | a5bc01e: Automatic miner run on 12/27/09 18:11:07. |
| 00:11.47 | Repo | de9822c: fix Utgarde Keep bosses and the Commanders in The Nexus thanks asmodai miner rerun incomming in a couple minutes to account for new boss data |
| 00:11.55 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.2.7b * 774c08a /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2.7b |
| 00:12.10 | Shadowed | looks hopefully at nev |
| 00:12.14 | Shadowed | who isn't here |
| 00:12.19 | Shadowed | looks hopefully at Mikk |
| 00:12.55 | Yssaril | Shadowed: would have to be implemented from within Mikk's chatthrottlelib since thats the heart of AceComm |
| 00:13.47 | Shadowed | yeaa I forgot about that |
| 00:13.49 | Shadowed | prods Mikk |
| 00:13.59 | Mikk | wutwut |
| 00:14.06 | Mikk | yeah |
| 00:14.08 | Mikk | i knows |
| 00:14.12 | Mikk | scream at me |
| 00:14.13 | Shadowed | I can write a patch for it if you want |
| 00:14.14 | Mikk | tomorrow |
| 00:14.17 | Mikk | sure shoot |
| 00:14.32 | Shadowed | want me to email you it, or is there a tickety place somewhere |
| 00:14.35 | Mikk | i've been total fail at fixing that |
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| 00:14.48 | Shadowed | or just ace3 |
| 00:14.58 | Mikk | http://www.wowace.com/addons/chatthrottlelib/tickets/ |
| 00:15.07 | Shadowed | kk |
| 00:15.31 | Myrroddin | anyone here really familiar with libbars-1.0? |
| 00:15.35 | Shadowed | Will write something in a second then since it'll make my life easier! |
| 00:16.02 | Mikk | yeah no worries, i'm going to bed ;) |
| 00:16.11 | Shadowed | night :p |
| 00:16.15 | Myrroddin | night mikk |
| 00:18.51 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.2.8b / (3 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 00:18.53 | Repo | 305ebdd: Automatic miner run on 12/27/09 18:18:31. |
| 00:18.53 | Repo | eb2d0d0: arghh Skarvald the Constructor is the important one not Dalronn the Controller |
| 00:19.03 | Repo | 10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.2.8b * 37ad8ec /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.2.8b |
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| 00:24.08 | Myrroddin | anybody familiar with LibBars-1.0? |
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| 00:45.11 | harl|yearning | not me |
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| 01:00.00 | Myrroddin | darn... i am beginning to think you can't set a border with libbars |
| 01:10.05 | onaforeignshore | does calling xml files from the toc file affect load times? |
| 01:11.06 | Myrroddin | i haven't tested. not sure how, actually, other than sit here with a stopwatch |
| 01:11.58 | onaforeignshore | well, if it does, then 3/4 of my addons are slowing my system down :p |
| 01:12.41 | Myrroddin | only on load. once in the game, then they won't affect anything |
| 01:13.03 | Myrroddin | i wonder if it is nil-ing on the border because i did not set a default |
| 01:13.14 | Myrroddin | doubtful, probably just doesn't support it |
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| 01:19.28 | jnwhiteh | What in the hell does he mean 'calling xml files from the toc file' |
| 01:19.33 | jnwhiteh | how else are you supposed to load them O.o |
| 01:20.24 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Magic. |
| 01:21.25 | jnwhiteh | k :P |
| 01:26.50 | Myrroddin | sorry, we were discussing phanx vs ckknight: http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17539&page=2 |
| 01:27.23 | Myrroddin | the gist is: xml in the toc, or mentioning libs and locales directly |
| 01:28.44 | Yssaril | Myrroddin: loading libs directly is faster exept if you run disembeded and the packager isnt commenting out the lines |
| 01:29.21 | Myrroddin | so i should add the lib strip and no lib strip lines to my toc... |
| 01:29.27 | Yssaril | yes |
| 01:30.04 | Xinhuan | why don't you checkout some of the more popular addons :) |
| 01:30.06 | Xinhuan | and see how they do it |
| 01:30.20 | Yssaril | otherwise it has to write an error into the FrameXML log each time it fails to load a file |
| 01:30.29 | Shefki | I honestly don't think it matters that much. |
| 01:30.37 | Shefki | Maybe it is faster by a tiny amount. |
| 01:30.45 | Myrroddin | actually, i DID have the lib-strip/no-lib-strip earlier on.... then onaforeignshore suggested i switch to xml.... |
| 01:31.18 | Myrroddin | and now phanx suggests i switch back to my old school thoughts LOL |
| 01:31.32 | Xinhuan | there's no right or wrong |
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| 01:31.37 | Myrroddin | no wonder i ask so many questions!! too many ways to do the same thing |
| 01:31.38 | Shefki | There's one reason to use XML |
| 01:31.51 | Shefki | If you need to change those things and they're in the TOC you must EXIT wow to change it. |
| 01:31.58 | Shadowed | actually, you don't |
| 01:31.59 | Yssaril | Shefki: wrong |
| 01:32.06 | Shefki | If it's in an XML file, you can edit the file as much as you want and it only takes a reload. |
| 01:32.08 | Shadowed | You can add new files to the toc provided they existed when you opened the game |
| 01:32.21 | Yssaril | as long as the file is there before login you can add/remove it from the toc as much as you want |
| 01:32.38 | Xinhuan | wow enumerates every single file, in the interface folder, whether they are mentioned in any TOC or now, Shefki |
| 01:32.45 | Shefki | As far as I knew TOC was only read once. |
| 01:32.51 | Xinhuan | not true |
| 01:33.07 | Xinhuan | TOC files preceded by ## are only parsed once |
| 01:33.10 | Shadowed | Th-- that |
| 01:33.13 | Xinhuan | everything else is parsed repeatedly |
| 01:33.20 | Xinhuan | the lines that is |
| 01:33.21 | Shefki | Now that's just bizzare. |
| 01:33.26 | Shefki | Why would it not read all the lines everytime. |
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| 01:34.16 | Myrroddin | #@no-lib-strip@ |
| 01:34.18 | Xinhuan | yes this does mean that if you keep you develop addons in the interface folder directly, wow does enumarate over every file in every .svn folder, and .git and .hg |
| 01:34.28 | Xinhuan | and it will slow down loading addons |
| 01:34.34 | Myrroddin | and #@end-no-lib-strip@ correct? |
| 01:34.39 | Xinhuan | ya Myrroddin |
| 01:34.48 | Myrroddin | ok, good. going from memory |
| 01:35.13 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: hmm never though about it reading the git/svn folders that could be painfull |
| 01:35.49 | Xinhuan | especially git.... |
| 01:36.05 | Xinhuan | since it stores every blob and object in separate files until they are packed |
| 01:36.19 | Xinhuan | into 1 packfile |
| 01:36.39 | Xinhuan | svn isn't as bad, since it only stores a copy of the latest revision |
| 01:36.46 | Xinhuan | unlike git storing the entire repo's history |
| 01:37.11 | Myrroddin | I left Libs\LibDataBroker-1.1\LibDataBroker-1.1.lua OUT of my no-lib... seem to recall that is correct |
| 01:37.29 | Yssaril | yep |
| 01:38.20 | Myrroddin | and the locales i have to mention them in a specific order. the default last, right? |
| 01:38.22 | Yssaril | Myrroddin: http://paste.wowace.com/1578/ <-- my YssDroptoc file :) |
| 01:38.38 | Xinhuan | if its ace3, you can load locales in any order |
| 01:38.45 | Xinhuan | only ONE locale should specify itself as default |
| 01:39.20 | Xinhuan | and its usually the enUS one, although it doesn't have to be |
| 01:39.23 | Myrroddin | ok, good. i've done that. whew |
| 01:40.12 | Myrroddin | Yssaril, i suppose you could have moved the LibDBIcon into the first batch of no-lib and saved a line or two... |
| 01:40.43 | Yssaril | Myrroddin: LibDBIcon requires LDB as such it neads to load after :P |
| 01:40.44 | Myrroddin | or does it have to be mentioned after LDB? |
| 01:40.57 | Myrroddin | LOL just as i was typing |
| 01:41.02 | Arrowmaster | when using acelocale usually the default, enus, is loaded first |
| 01:41.43 | Myrroddin | Yssaril, btw, i rather like YssDrop.. been using it for some time |
| 01:41.56 | Xinhuan | ya, but it doesn't actually matter which gets loaded first |
| 01:42.16 | Xinhuan | acelocale-3.0 is actually designed to handle loading in any order |
| 01:43.02 | Arrowmaster | 2.x needed enus first then i think |
| 01:43.05 | Yssaril | Myrroddin: thanks glad you like it |
| 01:43.14 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 01:45.09 | Myrroddin | in unrelated news, i found and killed a bug in my code, so now the test bars in SmartRes2 run once then clear (they weren't clearing before) but on second run, they don't clear. also, the bars aren't recolouring properly... frustrations, frustrations LOL |
| 01:45.43 | Myrroddin | which was why i asked earlier if anyone knew libbars.... |
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| 01:47.20 | SqueeG | what's the best way for a person to report a hacked account that they can't log into on a weekend? :-p |
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| 01:50.15 | Yssaril | email |
| 01:50.28 | Yssaril | nothing happens fast nomatter how you do it anyways |
| 01:50.36 | Yssaril | usually takes a couple day |
| 01:50.37 | Yssaril | s |
| 01:52.29 | Repo | 10sexygroup (experimental): 03Antiarc 07master * 76dbf00 / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Initial version of remote target inspection. Right now, works via active inspection, but could be made to passively scan a group, too. |
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| 02:09.31 | |ncubus | hrm. my bigwigs cooldown bars are gone and I dont quite see where to go to re-enable them |
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| 02:15.24 | |ncubus | actually. I see it now. The bonestorm duration message is gone. |
| 02:15.59 | Groktar | BOOOOOOONE STOOOOOOOOOOOOORM |
| 02:17.01 | Axodious | OBLIIIIIIIVION |
| 02:18.58 | pentium166 | DIE, INSECTS? |
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| 02:19.00 | Gnarfoz | Groktar: could this be the new "in the mountains"? |
| 02:19.28 | nevcairiel | 'ello |
| 02:20.11 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: following 26c3 streams by any chance? :P |
| 02:20.34 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: nope, you? |
| 02:20.45 | nevcairiel | i'm there :) |
| 02:20.47 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: my b/w sucks too much :( |
| 02:20.52 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh, the envy |
| 02:21.30 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hackcenter right now? |
| 02:21.34 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 02:21.52 | nevcairiel | a pic of us in the chaos-familien-duell was linked at fefe .. the fame! :P |
| 02:22.10 | Gnarfoz | oh noes, *looks* |
| 02:22.20 | Gnarfoz | lol, I just tried to open a new tab inside of WoW |
| 02:22.24 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 02:22.25 | Gnarfoz | time for sleep, obviously |
| 02:23.10 | Gnarfoz | haha @ the top 5 |
| 02:23.17 | Gnarfoz | where are you at in that pic? |
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| 02:23.40 | nevcairiel | right group, second from the right |
| 02:23.50 | Gnarfoz | I'll have to grab a full torrent of everything again, like last year |
| 02:26.16 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: does mapster force the map onto the screen (it doesnt alow me to drag it halfway offscreen anymore) |
| 02:26.21 | SqueeG | They locked my guildie out of his account, using an authenticator xD |
| 02:26.32 | nevcairiel | Yssaril: wow does that, i never changed it |
| 02:26.42 | nevcairiel | but was planning to |
| 02:26.56 | Yssaril | would be nice :) |
| 02:27.05 | Gnarfoz | wow, I didn't even notice it's clamped to screen now |
| 02:27.08 | nevcairiel | wont be home before next week, though |
| 02:27.20 | nevcairiel | going to spend new years in berlin after the congress |
| 02:27.31 | Yssaril | nice |
| 02:31.28 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: just checked the pic; biggest dude in the right group? ;) |
| 02:31.37 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 02:32.06 | Gnarfoz | is that a random group (haha, PUG) or something else? ^^ |
| 02:32.26 | nevcairiel | we knew each other from IRC and LANs |
| 02:35.58 | SunTsu | aI still wonder if I ever make it to a c3 |
| 02:36.21 | SunTsu | it's always something that gets in the way, unfortunately |
| 02:36.33 | nevcairiel | I just ignored everything else this year |
| 02:36.48 | Gnarfoz | I guess that's the only way, really |
| 02:36.57 | SunTsu | Well, try to ignore fever ;) |
| 02:37.05 | nevcairiel | already arrived on the 25th, screw family :p |
| 02:42.33 | nevcairiel | anyway time to get to our apartment |
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| 02:55.02 | Phaqui | Say I have an xml file with a <frame name="SomeFrame"> defined. Can I do something like the following in a .lua file to handle all events the frame is triggering on? SomeFrame:OnEvent = function(...) --function stuff end ? |
| 02:55.41 | p3lim | yes |
| 02:58.24 | Phaqui | Okey, so that means I wouldn't have to write a <Scripts><OnEvent>--do stuff</OnEvent></Scripts> in the .xml ? |
| 02:58.56 | Gnarfoz | syntax looks weird, though; wouldn't you have to use Frame:SetScript("OnEvent",function) ? |
| 02:58.56 | Phaqui | I'd want to separate xml design files from lua code completely |
| 02:59.27 | Phaqui | Hm..I'll check |
| 02:59.30 | Gnarfoz | (also, better to just leave XML out entirely, it's just not worth it ;o) |
| 03:01.20 | Phaqui | Depends on the complexity of the frame, I suppose |
| 03:01.50 | Phaqui | for massive frames with lots of artwork, design, buttons, sliders, etc etc I think I'd prefer to have them as .xml |
| 03:02.14 | Yssaril | for complex frames i find lua alot easier to read than xml files |
| 03:02.18 | Gnarfoz | I just hope you don't create any such frames, but that's just my opinion :p |
| 03:03.05 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: wtf, from the congress wiki: "For urgent requests call or text +49 177 777 77 23." (somewhere on the Dragons everywhere page) How the hell did whoever it is get that number :D |
| 03:19.22 | Wobin | nevcairiel, which picture? |
| 03:21.04 | SunTsu | Wobin: http://twitpic.com/vivhk |
| 03:21.27 | Wobin | what is it? =) |
| 03:21.54 | SunTsu | Wobin: it was some sort of hacker quiz on 26c3, with nevcairiel in it |
| 03:22.37 | SunTsu | Familienduell/family duel - They had to guess what 100 hackers answered to a question |
| 03:22.49 | Wobin | ah |
| 03:22.59 | Wobin | our equivalent is Family Feud |
| 03:23.11 | Wobin | sort of three strikes and you're out, thing? |
| 03:23.14 | SunTsu | yeah, that would be the one |
| 03:51.02 | Wobin | did he win? |
| 03:53.43 | SunTsu | Wobin: didn't say - so I guess he didn't win ;) |
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| 04:50.41 | eblume | Can anyone confirm for me that the "Button" UI Widget does NOT have a :SetFont() method attached? The wowwiki Widget API indicates that it does, but I'm getting "Attempt to call nil". |
| 04:51.08 | eblume | And given that Buttons do not support :SetFont, how can I change the size of the font on a button? |
| 04:52.26 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r174 SMD_Timers.lua: |
| 04:52.28 | Repo | -nil the entry in the idents table before moving the timerbar to the recycle pile in the ClearTimerBars function |
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| 05:25.30 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r11 DungeonMate.lua: (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 05:25.32 | Repo | Work on 0.2: |
| 05:25.33 | Repo | * New sub-line infrastructure is in place |
| 05:25.35 | Repo | * Also, collapse able units. |
| 05:25.36 | Repo | * Problem: UI still clunky, such as weird looking Ignore button |
| 05:33.59 | Yssaril | eblume: Button:GetFontString() should get a you reference to the fontstring of your button for which you can then use SetFont on |
| 05:34.27 | Yssaril | eblume: wowprogramming.com reference section tends to be more uptodate than wowwiki |
| 05:35.08 | Repo | 10broker_money: 03myrroddin * r25 / (3 files in 1 directory): fixed pkgmeta, toc. starting fix on ticket #3 |
| 05:36.11 | eblume | Yssaril: thanks on both counts! That will be a real time saver. |
| 05:36.40 | Yssaril | eblume: fyi i havent messed with it in a while so i could still be wrong :P |
| 05:36.59 | eblume | I'll let you know, testing it now. |
| 05:37.41 | eblume | yup! That worked perfectly. |
| 05:39.05 | Yssaril | woot |
| 05:41.54 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1268 / (11 files in 1 directory): - All errors should be gone now. |
| 05:42.30 | eblume | Ok, got another question. I've got a series of UI elements that could effectively be thought of as rows in a table that is one column wide. These elements are collected in a single table. Right now, they are all displayed constantly. What is the best way to go about putting them into a scrolling frame to only display X of them at a time? |
| 05:43.06 | eblume | I'm wondering if using AceGUI might be the right way of doing it, or if I should just make it from scratch. |
| 05:45.39 | Yssaril | eblume: there are several approaches the "easiest" is to fake the scrolling only create 5 "cells" and then ahve a slider on the side when you move the slider it would go from 1-5 being displayed to 2-6, to 3-7, etc till you reach the bottom |
| 05:46.29 | Yssaril | or you can use an actual scrollframe if you want smooth scrolling here you can either learn to use the blizzard template or create it from scratch |
| 05:47.04 | Yssaril | or you can create something with AceGUI (all depends on what you need and what you already have) |
| 05:48.19 | Repo | 10grid: 03Phanx * r1269 GridStatus.lua: |
| 05:48.21 | Repo | - Leave a global GridStatus for now so it doesn't break all plugins |
| 05:48.31 | Yssaril | in YssBossLoot i went ahead and used AceGUI since it makes creating scrollframes and adding removing scoll child widgets easy if you know what your doing |
| 05:49.55 | Arrowmaster | the pure blizz templates suck |
| 05:50.12 | eblume | Yeah, I looked at the blizz template for scrollframes and my hair went grey |
| 05:50.21 | Arrowmaster | nobody sane uses them |
| 05:50.37 | eblume | I'll check out AceGUI - thanks! The cells would also work, I've used that technique before, but I'd have to redo a lot of my existing code. |
| 05:53.31 | Repo | 10gridstatusafk: 03Phanx * r40 GridStatusAFK.lua: - GridModule -> Grid:GetModule("GridModule") |
| 05:54.01 | Shadowed | Why is Phanx updating Grid in a way that's going to break a bunch of modules |
| 05:54.03 | Shadowed | that seems a bit insane |
| 06:02.24 | Myrroddin | hmmm i must have hit a permissions thing with broker_money... i see phanx's commit of grid, but not my commit of BM |
| 06:02.52 | Myrroddin | must not be an open repository |
| 06:07.48 | Dessa | Access type |
| 06:07.48 | Dessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.53 | Myrroddin | ok, then i just have to be patient with the packager |
| 06:08.59 | Dessa | but i don't know if it shows up if its not packages |
| 06:09.18 | Dessa | which is actually the caes since the author has set to not package alohase |
| 06:09.23 | Dessa | alphas, even |
| 06:09.48 | Myrroddin | hmmm then i guess i can't fix his disembedding error |
| 06:10.46 | Dessa | fixed pkgmeta, toc. starting fix on ticket #3 |
| 06:10.49 | Dessa | its there |
| 06:10.52 | Dessa | on my checkout |
| 06:11.36 | Dessa | or do you mean some other commit? |
| 06:11.39 | Dessa | actually. |
| 06:11.42 | Myrroddin | bizarre. i still see the previous version. and i did see the repo work earlier |
| 06:11.43 | Dessa | scoll up :P |
| 06:11.47 | Dessa | +r |
| 06:12.02 | Myrroddin | yeah, i saw that. it isn't showing on wowace for me.. yet |
| 06:12.14 | Dessa | yes, thats normal |
| 06:12.26 | Dessa | it packages only on betas and releases |
| 06:12.35 | Dessa | the auther did setup it like that. |
| 06:12.36 | Myrroddin | as i said, i need to be patient. the packager isn't instant |
| 06:13.05 | Myrroddin | hmmm so i can't commit a version i can see.... |
| 06:13.13 | Myrroddin | but it is there |
| 06:18.00 | pompy | Myrroddin: what dont you see? the zip of what u commited? |
| 06:18.30 | Myrroddin | yep. which will be an alpha, but Dessa just explained why i don't see it on wowace |
| 06:19.16 | Myrroddin | broker money isn't my project, but i'm trying to fix the author's disembedded libs error |
| 06:19.35 | Myrroddin | since it was reported in... june! |
| 06:20.52 | pompy | you use that addon? |
| 06:23.13 | Myrroddin | yes, but that is recent |
| 06:23.44 | Myrroddin | i was using broker currency, and run nolib in the client, then found broker money threw an error from that |
| 06:24.14 | Groktar | creeps up behind Myrroddin and trouts him |
| 06:24.20 | Myrroddin | no worries. if i can't commit a visable version, i'll just run a fixed version locally |
| 06:24.38 | Myrroddin | trout!?! |
| 06:26.56 | Groktar | yes |
| 06:27.00 | Groktar | you have been trouted |
| 06:27.06 | Dessa | Myrroddin: it will most probably appear in the next release, unless the author reverts your changes |
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| 06:27.47 | Myrroddin | either way, hopefully he gets it fixed. such a simple change to both the pkgmeta and toc |
| 06:28.06 | Dessa | yes |
| 06:28.23 | pompy | what made you go from broker_currency to broker_money? |
| 06:29.39 | Myrroddin | just didn't like the display of the tooltip. i missed the old fubar_moneyFu, and this is more familiar |
| 06:32.43 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2485 Modules/WrathoftheLichKing/wrathofthelichking.lua: bugfix |
| 06:37.58 | Repo | 10broker_money: 03myrroddin * r26 Broker_Money.toc: Yep, fixed ticket # 3 |
| 06:40.00 | Myrroddin | i suppose i could branch/tag the fix, or should i wait for the author to take a look? which is the decorum? |
| 06:40.35 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r12 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 2 lines) |
| 06:40.37 | Repo | Work on 0.2: |
| 06:40.38 | Repo | * Thanks be to Zeksie and Peragor for their fabulous |
| 06:40.40 | Repo | LibGroupTalents-1.0 and LibTalentQuery-1.0, which turned |
| 06:40.41 | Repo | this dreaded update into a simple exercise. |
| 06:41.00 | eblume | Seriously guys. LibGroupTalents. It kicks ass. |
| 06:41.33 | eblume | (Well, TBH I only *think* it kicks ass... the interface loaded correctly but I haven't had the chance to test it yet. But it looks solid.) |
| 06:47.42 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r175 SMD_Timers.lua: |
| 06:47.44 | Repo | -strip the server name from targets when creating a timer bar |
| 06:57.27 | Groktar | rages at auracle some more |
| 06:58.22 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r13 DungeonMate.lua: |
| 06:58.24 | Repo | * Quick fix: "Reset" button now works properly. I had forgotten |
| 06:58.25 | Repo | to recycle the info lines when recycling an entire player |
| 06:58.27 | Repo | frame, so the recycling queues were becoming tainted. |
| 06:58.42 | orionshock | anyone know of an addon that times your instance runs? |
| 06:58.53 | eblume | DungeonMate will when I'm done with it |
| 06:58.57 | eblume | but that feature is a while off |
| 06:59.10 | eblume | Several months at least. |
| 07:00.22 | Polarina | :( |
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| 07:01.08 | orionshock | eblume: im writing one, and wanted to know if there was one out there already.. so i don't get a naming conflict :) |
| 07:02.13 | eblume | Oh, cool! orionshock , I'd love to talk to you about your addon then since it sounds like there will be some coinciding features, and as far as I had known my addon was all alone in the "Making instances easier now that we're in 3.3" addon wilderness. |
| 07:02.21 | eblume | Is the page up for it yet? |
| 07:03.38 | eblume | If not, I encourage you (at your own leisure of course) to check out DungeonMate. If our addons do a lot of similar features we might consider collaberating on some of the work. |
| 07:04.46 | eblume | brb, switching computers |
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| 07:06.55 | orionshock | eblume: eh, simple addons for simple things. so mines only going to track LFD instance time averages. |
| 07:07.24 | eblume | Fair enough :) |
| 07:07.49 | eblume | I'm curious though, how do you track when an instance begins and when it ends? Do you watch ZoneChanged and then determine if the zone is an instance zone? |
| 07:08.15 | cairnz | that's what i was thinking |
| 07:08.30 | cairnz | btw eblume. you should move to a table layout for your UI as soon as you can |
| 07:08.40 | Polarina | Time since zone in, time since last boss kill. |
| 07:08.53 | cairnz | it'll make listing the players you met look a bit more .. organized (going from your screenshot) |
| 07:09.12 | eblume | cairnz: Thanks for the tip. Care to elaborate? I'm an utter newb to UI design and have been doing everything from scratch. |
| 07:09.57 | cairnz | I have absolutely no idea, I've not even started doing any development - seems the stuff i want/need isn't easy to get started with myself :P |
| 07:10.17 | eblume | I'm just not sure what a tablet layout is. |
| 07:10.19 | cairnz | But, how hard can it be? |
| 07:12.09 | orionshock | eblume: magic of GetInstanceInfo() and GetLFGMode() |
| 07:12.13 | eblume | cairnz: I'm a bit confused. What do you mean by "Tablet layout"? I'm honestly interested - any tips are appreciated. |
| 07:12.43 | eblume | orionshock: Oh man! Oh wow! Thanks! |
| 07:12.54 | orionshock | it's hackish tbh |
| 07:13.07 | cairnz | eblume: like a html table |
| 07:13.58 | eblume | Ahh - so you just meant make everything more tabular in general. Yeah, I'll be doing a lot of work on just that |
| 07:14.09 | cairnz | yup |
| 07:14.26 | cairnz | atleast the list of players with the ignore and stuff |
| 07:15.17 | eblume | Yup! That's the plan. |
| 07:16.54 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03myrroddin * r130 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:16.56 | Repo | minor fix for no-lib installs. this is the LAST change for this addon, ever! |
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| 07:18.38 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03myrroddin 04release 6.08 * r131 : Tagging as release 6.08 |
| 07:21.30 | mitch0 | morgen |
| 07:23.01 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * 9ecb4a5 / (4 files in 1 directory): [new, +1 commit] Inital Import |
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| 07:33.23 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03myrroddin * r132 / (2 files in 1 directory): |
| 07:33.25 | Repo | bumping the toc. really, honestly, I am not touching this anymore! SmartRes2 all the way!! |
| 07:34.57 | Repo | 10smart-res: 03myrroddin 04release 6.09 * r133 : Tagging as release 6.09 |
| 07:36.05 | Groktar | hrm |
| 07:36.19 | Groktar | you know how you get unitframes for things like gunship battle? |
| 07:36.25 | Groktar | is it possible to move those? |
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| 07:56.44 | orionshock | Groktar: everything is moveable :) |
| 07:56.52 | orionshock | sexymap has the movers added to it for those |
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| 07:59.29 | Shefki | Chinchilla does as well. |
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| 08:17.23 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r14 DungeonMate.lua: * Fixxed the LibGroupTalents callback handling code |
| 08:17.25 | Repo | * Special thanks to testers: Satanuus and ... sorry, I forgot your name, but |
| 08:17.26 | Repo | it started with a K and sounded like "Kivrus". |
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| 08:47.16 | steev | nice |
| 08:49.42 | onaforeignshore | @project librescomm-1.0 |
| 08:49.43 | Repo | onaforeignshore: No project found that matches 'librescomm-1.0' |
| 08:49.47 | onaforeignshore | @project librescomm-1-0 |
| 08:49.49 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/addons/librescomm-1-0/. LibResComm-1.0. Game: WoW. DathRarhek (Manager/Author). Updated: 102 days ago. Tickets: 1/3 |
| 09:00.25 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * 0b4fad9 / (4 files in 1 directory): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 09:00.27 | Repo | 0b4fad9: change localizations to perminant debug mode until web app is used |
| 09:00.28 | Repo | 1212414: remove use of UpdateInstanceInfo, it has a problem firing under certain conditions. |
| 09:00.29 | Repo | b84f3bd: add localizations file |
| 09:00.30 | Repo | 73a710b: add localizations |
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| 09:11.48 | Repo | Acquired GridRoster from :GetModule(). Removed pre-3.3 compatibility. |
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| 09:14.53 | Repo | 10gridstatussanity: 03Greltok * r9 / (2 files in 1 directory): Acquire GridRoster from :GetModule(). |
| 09:15.06 | asmodai | trips Fisker |
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| 09:15.40 | Repo | 10gridstatusrole: 03Greltok * r18 / (2 files in 1 directory): Acquire GridRoster from :GetModule(). |
| 09:16.44 | Repo | 10gridstatusrole: 03Greltok 041.1.3 * r19 : Tagging as 1.1.3 |
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| 09:17.32 | Repo | 10gridstatussanity: 03Greltok 041.0.3 * r10 : Tagging as 1.0.3 |
| 09:27.05 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 09:34.21 | Fisker | slaps asmodai around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:37.13 | Repo | 10sexygroup (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * v0.1 / (14 files in 3 directories): [+17 commits] (13 truncated) |
| 09:37.15 | Repo | bb75987: Fixed tree numbers pulling from a random group, not the correct and active one |
| 09:37.16 | Repo | f4c6f1c: Added Mongoose as an override enchant for tank/dps |
| 09:37.20 | Repo | e624167: Fixed leaked globals |
| 09:37.22 | Repo | a7fce0d: Switched to using standard localization rather then AceLocale-3.0 because Ruby hates me |
| 09:37.29 | Repo | 10sexygroup (experimental): 03Shadowed 04v0.1 * e88298b /: [new tag] Tagging as version 0.1 |
| 09:38.07 | orionshock | Shadowed: trying to automatically pull localisations out? |
| 09:39.22 | orionshock | Shadowed: i found the Babblefish.lua script in Bartender4 quite useful for that :) |
| 09:39.40 | steev | woo, went from 100g to 4kg |
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| 09:41.06 | Polarina | steev: How? |
| 09:41.53 | stolenlegacy | anyone responsible for CC4 around? |
| 09:43.01 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * 71370d6 DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] remove test db entries. |
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| 09:48.14 | Mikk | stolenlegacy: mr CC4 doesnt really hang in the channel. he's popped on the odd time to talk to us but that's about it |
| 09:48.19 | Mikk | i'd use the ticketing interface |
| 09:48.28 | stolenlegacy | Mikk: thanks |
| 09:48.30 | Mikk | or talk to K |
| 09:48.33 | Mikk | whenever he surfaces |
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| 09:48.41 | Shadowed | he's dead |
| 09:48.51 | Mikk | too much xmas food yeah |
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| 10:08.14 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r15 DungeonMate.lua: |
| 10:08.16 | Repo | * Reverting the GearScore code... interfacing with GearScore will be more |
| 10:08.17 | Repo | complicated than I had originally anticipated since it only generates the |
| 10:08.19 | Repo | score on mouseover. |
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| 10:14.24 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * 70ea1bf DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 10:14.26 | Repo | 70ea1bf: start sending stuff to party chat annoyingly |
| 10:14.27 | Repo | ddfb24b: fix ldb to work as hint sugests |
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| 10:17.00 | Fisker | i hate lag |
| 10:17.06 | Fisker | @project dungeonspeedrunner |
| 10:17.07 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Updated: 33 minutes ago |
| 10:17.27 | Fisker | orionshock |
| 10:17.39 | orionshock | ? |
| 10:17.44 | Fisker | make it track shit like which random dungeon you got as well |
| 10:17.44 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.03 | orionshock | eh? wha |
| 10:20.46 | orionshock | Fisker: more details please |
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| 10:22.42 | Znuff | is anyone else getting spammed by a DCC bot? |
| 10:23.49 | Fisker | orionshock so you can track your luck etc. |
| 10:24.07 | orionshock | count |
| 10:24.29 | orionshock | tracking that already, prolly add it to tooltip later |
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| 10:34.59 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r16 DungeonMate.lua: (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 10:35.01 | Repo | Prep for 0.2-rc1 |
| 10:35.03 | Repo | * Scrollbar is being pushed back to a later milestone. |
| 10:35.03 | Repo | * Beautified UI (Still not where I want it, but much closer) |
| 10:35.04 | Repo | * Still no icon yet - that may get bumped for a bit too, as I'm still away from |
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| 10:41.04 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume 040.2-rc1 * r17 : Tagging as 0.2-rc1 |
| 10:43.06 | orionshock | eblume: a point of advice.. big addons tend to be good for only a patch or so... then they often stop getting updates because of their size to maintain. |
| 10:43.57 | eblume | It's a point well taken, orionshock. I spent about a week outlining all of the user interface and functionality I intend to add to this addon, though, so I don't think I'm going to suffer too much from feature creep. |
| 10:44.47 | orionshock | well, you got plenty of overlap with other addons that do one thing really good. |
| 10:45.22 | orionshock | the history thing is interesting |
| 10:45.36 | eblume | Yeah, the next big update (0.3) will implement history |
| 10:45.48 | orionshock | the loot tracking is a "done to death" idea that there are a lot of addons about |
| 10:46.41 | orionshock | tbh, the only 2 features i see listed on your description page that seem new is the group history and the "Favourites" |
| 10:47.27 | eblume | While it could be for want of searching, I never found an addon that provided the sort of things I want to be in DungeonMate. I was doing instance after instance when 3.3 hit and I started making a list of things I wished I had handy |
| 10:47.38 | eblume | I figure, if I write an addon I want to use myself, then other people might want to use it too. |
| 10:48.02 | orionshock | point of me saying something is that In my experiance, small addons that do 1 thing well often don't break with patches and require little maintenance . |
| 10:48.57 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.57 | eblume | It's a good point, but I'm going to stick with this current vision. Like I said, once I've got everything I want in the addon implemented, I'll be making it modular. That way each component (what you would suggest as separate addons) can be maintained independently. |
| 10:50.29 | orionshock | imo start there, it's much easier on the sanity :) |
| 10:51.56 | eblume | The problem for me was all about the GUI. I know how to code modularly, I just don't know how to design UI's modularly. But in the past four days I've learned a LOT about UI design, so I think once this is over I'll be able to go back and redo it pretty well. |
| 10:52.19 | eblume | Like I said, I spent about a week doing pen and paper mockups of the UI, detailing the interaction contracts and APIs and how each UI would flow when buttons are pressed, etc. |
| 10:52.29 | eblume | All that remains is figuring out how to write the code that makes it happen |
| 10:52.43 | orionshock | hehe, i had that situation with GuildCraft |
| 10:52.48 | orionshock | i cheated and used AceGUI3 for it :) |
| 10:52.50 | eblume | an excellent addon btw |
| 10:53.14 | eblume | I stared out with AceGUI, but found it wasn't giving me the control I wanted. I might use it for scrolling panels though |
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| 10:56.15 | orionshock | aceGUI has that problem where it dosn't do weird custom things easily. it was mostly designed around being the backend for AceConfig.. so it has that look and feel |
| 10:58.49 | eblume | Yup. If you need a procedurally generate UI then it's golden - and that's what it was meant for. But for artsy, clever stuff, IMO there are better ways to go. BUT, I didn't know a Region from a FontInstance a week ago, so I'm not an authority. |
| 10:59.23 | Torhal | eblume: If you interface with GearScore, someone in this channel will likely eat a live kitten. |
| 10:59.41 | eblume | I know, I know. I promise I'll make it an off-by-default option. |
| 10:59.44 | orionshock | oo do it quickly, that'd be interesting to see |
| 10:59.47 | eblume | But it was already specifically asked for. |
| 10:59.59 | Torhal | Why? |
| 11:00.02 | Torhal | For what use? |
| 11:01.04 | eblume | Let's put aside for a moment the reasoning behind the usefulness of GearScore and take it for granted that people want to judge other people using that score. In that light, it makes sense for DungeonMate to show that data, as it is in large part a tool with which to judge and sentence your randomly met instance partners. |
| 11:01.30 | eblume | (rewrit: "as [DungeonMate] is in large part a tool..." |
| 11:02.05 | orionshock | i have problems with giving idiots tools that require a fair degree of IQ to use properly.. |
| 11:02.18 | onaforeignshore | I've played with people with a gearscore 500 or more less that a well geared dpser of the same class, yet they beat the higher geared one time and again - so gearscore is crap as the be-all-end-all |
| 11:02.30 | eblume | Yes yes yes, I entirely agree. |
| 11:02.49 | eblume | At the same time, it makes sense to include it. It fits the package, and people want it. |
| 11:02.50 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: we suspended that reality in eblume previous statment :) |
| 11:03.54 | Torhal | The only thing I'd use that for (And I wouldn't: I specifically wrote GearGauge because GearScore is so bad) is to see how I compare to others in a raid. |
| 11:04.14 | Torhal | Gear-wise, since measuring anything else is just silly and impossible |
| 11:05.02 | orionshock | tbh, i give pugs the 3 wipe rule: leave group after 3 consecutive wipes |
| 11:05.13 | eblume | orionshock brings up a point though. Is it a moral imperative that I refrain from including that capability? I give you this argument: I'm not *including* GearScore in DungeonMate. I'm merely making DungeonMate listen for GearScore values and enter them if they are heard. I argue that this washes me of any responsibility in the misuse of the value, as it was being misused anyway, and is merely being made more easily accessible. |
| 11:05.17 | orionshock | on just about anything |
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| 11:05.36 | Torhal | orionshock: I'm talking about guildies in a raid, I don't even care how people in PUGs are geared unless they're walking around in Tier 1 shit. :D |
| 11:05.41 | eblume | Torhal: Oh, well that's something else entirely. You've written an alternative? Mayhaps I can hook into that as well? GearGauge... checking it out now |
| 11:06.06 | orionshock | eblume: GearGague iirc dosn't do comms |
| 11:06.15 | Torhal | eblume: It doesn't spam comms |
| 11:06.18 | Torhal | Heh |
| 11:06.32 | Torhal | Nor does it do the tooltip shite. |
| 11:06.33 | orionshock | however SexyGroup does... |
| 11:07.11 | eblume | Torhal: What would be the best way (in your opinion) for DungeonMate to grab GearGauge's data? Is there a single text or numeric value I can retrieve based on name or unitid? |
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| 11:07.18 | orionshock | however im going to have to say that Im going to be trusting SexyGroup over GearScore mainly due to the authors and history |
| 11:07.35 | onaforeignshore | so using your argument, if I made it easier for someone to give the death penalty, it would be my fault they gave it? :p |
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| 11:09.10 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: eh, no bad analogy as when the death penalty is involved there is uasually some form and degree of due process involved and a fair degree of accuracy. Unlike puging where there is really nothing but stats that have questionable accuracy. |
| 11:09.36 | eblume | onaforeignshore: In a very cynical way, yes. I would say a better analogy would be that I'm making the facts of the case more easily available for consideration during the sentencing. |
| 11:10.22 | onaforeignshore | orionshock: making something more accessable means you are inferring, even if not intended, acceptance of the usage of it |
| 11:10.26 | onaforeignshore | IMHO |
| 11:11.22 | eblume | I absolutely accept the right of everyone to be morons |
| 11:11.23 | Torhal | eblume: GearGauge:Scan("unitname") returns rating, equip_level |
| 11:11.36 | orionshock | to correct you both, comparing court trials to dealing with pug groups is not even close. PuG are a total wildcard where in a justice system there is a rather deep inquiry of a situation and a person's background. |
| 11:11.49 | onaforeignshore | ok bad analogy |
| 11:11.55 | onaforeignshore | case closed :P |
| 11:12.08 | eblume | Torhal: With apologies, what is the nature of rating and equip_level? |
| 11:13.16 | Torhal | eblume: rating is my own forumla of weights based off of values returned by LibItemBonus, plus the presence/lack of enchants and gems (if the item has sockets), and equip_level is the average item level |
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| 11:14.44 | eblume | Torhal: That's excellent! So if I poll GearGauge:Scan("partyN") at the start of each instance or when people join the group, that should work out? |
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| 11:14.51 | Torhal | Yup. |
| 11:15.02 | eblume | Brilliant. I'll add it right now, it'll be like four lines of code. |
| 11:15.41 | onaforeignshore | and it'll mean you have to include GearGauge in your addon or test for it's existance, and get people to install it? :p |
| 11:16.01 | Torhal | Testing for existence is the nice way to go about it. |
| 11:16.07 | eblume | That's the plan, it will simply test for existance |
| 11:16.14 | eblume | Right. It'll add the line if it's there, or not if not. |
| 11:16.26 | onaforeignshore | @project geargauge |
| 11:16.26 | eblume | I'll also write it in as an OptionalDependency |
| 11:16.26 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/addons/geargauge/. GearGauge. Game: WoW. Torhal (Manager/Author). Updated: 45 days ago. Tickets: 2/5 |
| 11:16.42 | Torhal | Aye - load orders tend to buggar things at times. |
| 11:17.07 | onaforeignshore | a ticket from June... slacker :P |
| 11:17.31 | Torhal | Eh, it's for the tooltip :P |
| 11:17.36 | Torhal | Not a priority |
| 11:17.37 | onaforeignshore | lol I know :) |
| 11:17.44 | onaforeignshore | but 6 months? :P |
| 11:17.56 | Torhal | Yeah. Like I said... |
| 11:18.24 | onaforeignshore | does it use the belt buckle in its calculations? |
| 11:18.46 | Torhal | Nope, therefore it's completely useless! :D |
| 11:19.09 | onaforeignshore | I could be a JC and have a Dragon's Eye in there, so it's important :p |
| 11:19.34 | Torhal | Meh. I'd been busy with other projects. |
| 11:20.00 | Torhal | Then I decided that writing TragelAgent was more time-worthy. |
| 11:20.25 | Shefki | I'm gauging that Torhal is a slacker. :P |
| 11:20.37 | onaforeignshore | Tragel? wassat? :p |
| 11:20.48 | Torhal | s/Tragel/Travel/ |
| 11:21.11 | Torhal | Shefki: Definitely. I don't exactly care if people use it. |
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| 11:22.18 | Torhal | Can't please everyone. Hell Myrroddin stopped using Broker_Currency for something that is barely usable because I changed its tooltip display. |
| 11:22.57 | Myrroddin | sorry Torhal .... i can switch back if it won't hurt your feelings |
| 11:23.01 | Shefki | Torhal: You of all people should know that I know that. I'm just giving you shit. |
| 11:23.06 | Torhal | Liek I said - I don't care :) |
| 11:23.20 | Shefki | No he cares. Torhal show us how much you care. |
| 11:23.21 | Torhal | Shefki: I know you know, but I don't know that others do. :) |
| 11:23.23 | Shefki | gets popcorn. |
| 11:23.35 | onaforeignshore | it's "Give Torhal Shit Day - all day on #wowace - THE place to be" :p |
| 11:23.51 | Torhal | The awesome thing: I'm getting up now to go get ready for work. |
| 11:23.51 | Shefki | onaforeignshore: It's a day that never ends. |
| 11:24.03 | eblume | Have fun, Torhal. |
| 11:24.08 | onaforeignshore | enjoy |
| 11:24.58 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r18 DungeonMate.lua: * Adding GearGauge utility. Not tested yet. |
| 11:25.22 | KriLL3 | my brother is weird, he sits there cursing every time he opens the bank and all the bank bag frames overlay his bags and it's really hard to find anything, but when I offer to install an addon that merges all of it into a single frame he says "you're always on about addons, they're rubbish I don't need any addons" ... |
| 11:25.22 | Shefki | OMG people are supporting that useless thing. :P |
| 11:25.31 | Torhal | Shefki: Inorite? |
| 11:26.14 | Shefki | This is what happens when I've been stucking in queue for Isle of conquest for an hour and have been trolling trade and get bored of it and look to IRC. |
| 11:26.31 | Shefki | I just come here and troll Torhal. |
| 11:26.38 | eblume | gnight! |
| 11:26.57 | Torhal | Wewt! |
| 11:27.08 | Shefki | You know I've never used one of these gear meansuring things. |
| 11:27.24 | Shefki | I do randoms a lot and people just shit bricks over my score. |
| 11:28.27 | Fisker | Shefki |
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| 11:28.33 | Fisker | hate |
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| 11:32.05 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r247 / (3 files in 2 directories): - Updated German localization |
| 11:32.08 | Repo | - Fixed an incorrect translation in the zhTW locale causing player disconnects |
| 11:33.26 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r283 modules/SkadaAbsorbs/Absorbs.lua: |
| 11:33.27 | Repo | Absorbs: now considering SPELL_MISSED and SPELL_AURA_REFRESH. |
| 11:35.08 | Shefki | Muhaha love controlling the ammo market on my realm. |
| 11:35.54 | Polarina | How? And why? |
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| 11:36.45 | Shefki | Just make and sell a lot and watch the market like mad. |
| 11:36.59 | Polarina | :P |
| 11:37.05 | Shefki | And it's strangely fun watching people try to muscle in and then give up. |
| 11:37.06 | Polarina | Won't that reduce prices? |
| 11:37.37 | Shefki | It's a volume market. And even with fairly low prices it's still ridiculously profitable. |
| 11:37.49 | Polarina | :P |
| 11:37.58 | Shefki | Also the lower the price the more people that buy. |
| 11:38.17 | Shefki | A lot of people aren't rushing out to switch to the new ammo just becuase they can. |
| 11:38.22 | Shefki | If the price is lower more people buy. |
| 11:38.32 | orionshock | Shefki: what & it is like dirt for you to make? |
| 11:38.33 | Polarina | goes controlling the mana potion market. |
| 11:38.43 | Shefki | orionshock: yup it is. |
| 11:38.56 | orionshock | 20g a stack? |
| 11:39.19 | Shefki | No we're down around 5g on arrows and bullets are at 14-15g atm. |
| 11:39.33 | Polarina | laughs. |
| 11:39.36 | Shefki | But bullets don't really sell no matter what the price. |
| 11:39.45 | Shefki | Arrows sell like mad around 5g. |
| 11:40.45 | Shefki | Even at 5g it's like 400% profit. |
| 11:44.20 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: advice for you official addon thread.. put a link to the project there and then copy paste the description from the project into your opening post :) |
| 11:45.58 | onaforeignshore | orionshock: thanks |
| 11:47.12 | onaforeignshore | done |
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| 11:52.54 | KriLL3 | I'm a genius, killed a resto druid and ele shaman at LM solo, both in nice gear, couldn't make any headway at first since I have to interrupt the ele or I'd be dead quick, that left the resto to heal him, so I let the ele fart me away on purpose, in mid air I charged the resto that went out of tree to relax, and killed it before they had time to react, then killed the ele :) |
| 11:53.39 | onaforeignshore | is there a way to close the Blizzard Addon options window programatically? |
| 11:55.04 | orionshock | call the function that's tied to the escape key? |
| 11:59.18 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r44 / (8 files in 2 directories): ruRU added, more codebase, updating other localizations |
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| 12:20.17 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * ca520c4 DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] cache the last party we where in and use that in ldb on click, remove chat frame spam, only use tekDebug |
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| 12:25.50 | sb|work | hmmm |
| 12:26.16 | sb|work | wtb power auras replacement - i remember some addon was mentioned here - but dont know the name :) |
| 12:30.55 | TNZe | KriLL3, reminds me of that time I mounetd up and ran from LM and then did /afk |
| 12:32.58 | Znuff | reminds me of that time when I MC-ed people on LM |
| 12:33.01 | Znuff | you know the rest |
| 12:35.02 | KriLL3 | Znuff: isn't MC humanoid only? |
| 12:35.15 | Znuff | *nods* |
| 12:35.20 | KriLL3 | <-- immune |
| 12:35.27 | Znuff | uhm? |
| 12:35.32 | KriLL3 | feral |
| 12:35.40 | Znuff | fear & kill :D |
| 12:35.46 | KriLL3 | pfft, dream on |
| 12:35.59 | KriLL3 | berserk |
| 12:36.55 | orionshock | wow.. i just did something rather unusual of me |
| 12:37.00 | TNZe | heh |
| 12:37.01 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r248 Locales (2 files in 1 directory): Added deDE localization |
| 12:37.05 | TNZe | ferals were a joke at start of wotlk |
| 12:37.20 | TNZe | I got a feral on my priest in pve gear, and he didn't stand a chance in hell |
| 12:37.25 | orionshock | this lvl 13 nub asks me for some wool to make bags, i turn around and hand him 11 frostweave bags for free... |
| 12:37.36 | TNZe | lol |
| 12:37.42 | TNZe | "but I needed for skill..." |
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| 12:47.37 | Repo | 10shamanwarning: 03Silmano 04v1.2.1 * 019c4c7 /: [new tag, +1 commits] v1.2.1 |
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| 12:57.58 | KriLL3 | orionshock: you're setting a bad precedent if you oblige beggars we get more of them |
| 13:18.11 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 071.1.0 * r249 / (2 files in 1 directory): Release 1.1.0 Beta 2 |
| 13:18.51 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink 041.1.0 Beta 2 * r250 : Tagging as 1.1.0 Beta 2 |
| 13:19.37 | onaforeignshore | is there a better option that align for alignment of UI elements? |
| 13:21.14 | onaforeignshore | s/that/than/ |
| 13:24.28 | Fisker | i think i just farted KriLL3 |
| 13:24.29 | Fisker | sorry |
| 13:33.50 | sb|work | Shadowed: SexyGroup-1.0\scan.lua:89: attempt to index field '?' (a boolean value) |
| 13:34.38 | Fisker | i love you sb|work |
| 13:35.05 | sb|work | well.. sorry, i don't love you... |
| 13:37.15 | Fisker | well i love you |
| 13:37.26 | Fisker | and there's nothing you can do to stop me |
| 13:37.51 | Fisker | i might also be on a boat |
| 13:37.56 | Fisker | which only makes it worse |
| 13:39.48 | sb|work | meh - looking for freenode staff, where are they? :p |
| 13:41.14 | yoshimo | #freenode ? |
| 13:41.15 | Fisker | trolls in the channel and noone around to help? |
| 13:41.23 | haste | sb|work: just do /stats p and PM one of them |
| 13:42.05 | sb|work | haste: stats p tells me "0 staff members" for ~1 week now... |
| 13:42.15 | haste | sb|work: voiced people in #freenode |
| 13:42.22 | sb|work | okay thanks |
| 13:42.41 | haste | might want to say that the /sats p command doesn' work as well :P |
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| 13:57.44 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r45 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 13:57.46 | Repo | big changes to localization. translators please pay attention! %s could be either the player or the target, %p% is always the player and %t% is always the target |
| 14:07.39 | KriLL3 | wtf, I maimed a damn cowardly druid and he hibernated me, at the same time, how does that work? either I stunned him and stopped hibernate or he hibernated and stopped maim |
| 14:07.42 | KriLL3 | can't have both |
| 14:10.54 | Fisker | sure you can |
| 14:11.30 | Repo | 10mendeleev: 03pompachomp * r269 Mendeleev.toc: toc to 30300 |
| 14:12.22 | stolenlegacy | server la |
| 14:12.22 | stolenlegacy | g |
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| 14:36.56 | Repo | Knowledge base page update: http://www.wowace.com/jobs/php-web-developer-closed/ by Adamar |
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| 14:55.51 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r43 / (2 files in 1 directory): Fixed issue where GetAddon couldn't locate the addon |
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| 14:58.00 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r44 / (3 files in 1 directory): Out of sync commit |
| 14:59.16 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r45 LRM.lua: Removed localized LibStub |
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| 15:18.51 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r46 Locals (9 files in 1 directory): |
| 15:18.53 | Repo | Fixed localizations so the proper localizations would be found during load |
| 15:23.54 | KriLL3 | I thought the player limit in WG was supposed to stop the lag |
| 15:24.24 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r47 LRM.lua: Removed duplicate NewAddon statements |
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| 15:32.43 | sb|work | Antiarc! :p |
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| 16:02.57 | onaforeignshore | @ping ckknight |
| 16:02.57 | Repo | pong |
| 16:03.08 | ckknight | howdy, onaforeignshore |
| 16:03.30 | onaforeignshore | pitbull4 - creating raid frames for each group size, however... |
| 16:03.46 | onaforeignshore | did the 40 man first, no problem - chose show when 40-man |
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| 16:04.00 | onaforeignshore | created one for 25 man, show when 25-man |
| 16:04.15 | onaforeignshore | now I have extra unstyled groups showing up? |
| 16:05.15 | onaforeignshore | they do, however, disappear on a reload ui |
| 16:05.54 | onaforeignshore | some little bug is causing duplicate frames to show when you uncheck all the other sizes and then create new frames for a different size |
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| 16:13.15 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r152 BankItems.lua: |
| 16:13.17 | Repo | Fix bug where ammo is not registering as unequipped when you unequip ammo. |
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| 16:35.32 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03StingerSoft * r6906 Citadel/Locales/ruRU.lua: ruRU update |
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| 16:46.32 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: odd, never had anything like that |
| 16:46.54 | Repo | 10analyst: 03Bethink * r62 Capture.lua: FIX: Bad detail string argument for LFG_COMPLETION_REWARD |
| 16:49.56 | Repo | 10analyst: 03Bethink * r63 HISTORY.txt: Release 1.0.12 |
| 16:50.16 | Repo | 10analyst: 03Bethink 041.0.12 * r64 : Tagging as 1.0.12 |
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| 16:55.09 | sb|work | @describe analyst |
| 16:55.10 | Repo | sb|work: http://www.wowace.com/addons/analyst/. Analyst. Collects, analyzes and presents information about the virtual economy. |
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| 16:58.37 | Ghli__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.38 | Ghli__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:45.21 | Axodious | Groktar you around? |
| 17:53.01 | Repo | 10project-14141: 03onyxmaster * r34 Grid_QuickHealth.lua: Grid_QuickHealth: |
| 17:53.03 | Repo | - Grid module system support |
| 17:53.36 | mitchnull | lua> local x = "0"; local y = x + 1; print(y); |
| 17:53.37 | lua_bot | mitchnull: 1 |
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| 17:56.21 | Repo | fd09d89: Switched gem detection to look for textures to indicate the item has a socket, rather than text as it's more accurate |
| 17:56.22 | Repo | d94fbeb: Fixed index boolean errors in scan.lua if all the gem info was available at the initial scan time |
| 17:57.00 | sb|work | ty Shadowed |
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| 18:00.18 | Repo | 10zomgbuffs: 03Zeksie * r146 / (4 files in 4 directories): |
| 18:00.20 | Repo | Corrected some issues with X-Realm names and tracker icons, should behave correctly in random dungeons now. |
| 18:00.21 | Repo | Also stops using whispers to X-Realm people until the next patch when I would assume they correct the issue with addon messages not reaching them. |
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| 18:03.05 | Repo | 10project-14141: 03onyxmaster * r35 Grid_QuickHealth.lua: Grid_QuickHealth: |
| 18:03.07 | Repo | - repeat last fix |
| 18:03.57 | Repo | 10grid-status-hots: 03onyxmaster * r128 GridStatusHots.lua: Grid module system support (GridRoster) |
| 18:08.37 | Repo | 10grid-mana-bars: 03onyxmaster * r91 GridStatusMana.lua: GridManaBars: |
| 18:08.40 | Repo | (hacky) fix for Grid module system |
| 18:08.47 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03onyxmaster * r249 Core.lua: (hacky) fix for Grid module system |
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| 18:16.49 | Repo | 10broker_money: 03smb 04v1.41 * r27 : Tagging as v1.41 |
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| 18:37.24 | SunTsu | Anybody seen that epic battle in CoT: Stratholme before? Mal'Ganis resets to full health after defeat and keeps on fighting on 1 life point until the group dies. After that he and Arthas keep on battling forever - both with a single life point left - epic |
| 18:43.22 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 18:44.36 | Kuosi | what's the line for hiding that dungeon diffuculty flag? |
| 19:01.36 | sb|work | hum haste |
| 19:01.41 | sb|work | can you fix butsu? :P |
| 19:04.05 | sb|work | haste: http://pastey.net/130743 |
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| 19:05.31 | Shadowed | I hate whoever setup the wowace subscription system to send me an email when someone votes |
| 19:05.47 | Kalroth | but I voted for you!! |
| 19:06.37 | Shadowed | I'll end you |
| 19:17.33 | haste | sb|work: how's that my issue? |
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| 19:28.49 | Repo | Updated display of minimap so alpha value is honored. it will now set alpha based on distance to node and preference taking the smaller value |
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| 19:30.35 | sb|work | haste: hmm no idea, but it works with butsu disabled :p |
| 19:30.46 | sb|work | (and even with xloot enabled) |
| 19:30.50 | sb|work | so it has to be you :p |
| 19:31.23 | haste | sb|work: not my fault he does something odd :P |
| 19:31.46 | haste | so either he fixes it on his side or he sends me a patch |
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| 19:32.19 | yoshimo | ~seen Zeksie |
| 19:32.22 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 12d 20h 3m 55s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'. |
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| 19:39.59 | sb|work | haste: mhh... okay |
| 19:40.09 | sb|work | haste: so you doint know what happens there? :p |
| 19:42.12 | haste | sb|work: it expects the slot to be set somewhere, but god knows where |
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| 19:51.54 | aestil | is the authencticator just for wow, or all battle.net games [future games] |
| 19:54.08 | sb|work | its for battle.net |
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| 19:54.43 | aestil | so, theoretically, protected against getting hacked in all future blizzard games that use the service. |
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| 19:55.37 | aestil | mine came today. blizzard should just incorporate into the retail package for wow. |
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| 20:07.51 | Axodious | but aestil, that would cost mojney |
| 20:09.28 | aestil | i bet it would save them money in the long run. |
| 20:09.35 | Axodious | how? |
| 20:09.44 | Axodious | it costs them nothing other than hourly pay for a gm to restore an account |
| 20:09.50 | aestil | time and resources spent restoring stuff. |
| 20:10.05 | aestil | the authenticator is a 1 time fixed cost. |
| 20:10.06 | Axodious | all that itme and resource is on fixed pay |
| 20:10.08 | aestil | btw, that thing |
| 20:10.19 | aestil | costs them like $1.00 or less. |
| 20:10.28 | Axodious | which comes tom y second point |
| 20:10.31 | Axodious | they make money on you buying it |
| 20:10.39 | aestil | not much. |
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| 20:10.42 | Axodious | money is money |
| 20:10.46 | aestil | at this point you are basically paying for shipping. |
| 20:10.54 | Groktar | i imagine it costs a lot more than $1 to fix an account |
| 20:11.01 | Groktar | probably more like 15-20 |
| 20:11.06 | aestil | believe me it costs them more to restore accounts than it would to just give everyone an authenticator. |
| 20:11.19 | Axodious | actually the shipping stuff they just removed most likely was them going from purolator to ground shipping |
| 20:11.33 | aestil | uh. ok. |
| 20:11.40 | aestil | cost of authenticator... almost free. |
| 20:11.46 | Axodious | my point is Groktar they already are paying the person who is fixing your account regardless if they fix it |
| 20:11.52 | aestil | no they aren't. |
| 20:12.00 | aestil | the staff they have is not 'fixed' |
| 20:12.12 | aestil | the staff they have is the amount of people they need to do x amount of work. |
| 20:12.22 | Groktar | ^ |
| 20:12.23 | aestil | if you reduce x amount of work, then the amount of people they need will also reduc.e |
| 20:12.24 | Axodious | and each person is on a fixed rate |
| 20:12.32 | Axodious | x/hr |
| 20:12.43 | aestil | if i had mod powers i would mute you. |
| 20:12.45 | Groktar | imagine how much money they're saving with the trading bop items |
| 20:12.52 | aestil | this is rediculous and i can't even believe we are having this conversation. |
| 20:12.54 | Axodious | no matter how much you reduce that they won't savem oney because of the amount comming in |
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| 20:13.30 | aestil | meanwhile. my guild got server first yogg+0 |
| 20:13.30 | Axodious | you want to save them money? figure out a way to stop retards from paging a gm for a dumb question |
| 20:13.57 | Groktar | you don't think reducing hacked account petitions reduces gm petitions? |
| 20:14.17 | aestil | Groktar: either your feeding troll or arguing with a retard. |
| 20:14.22 | Axodious | not by an amount enough to save them worthwhile money |
| 20:14.37 | Groktar | i'll go with retard :/ |
| 20:14.40 | Axodious | now i'm being called a troll for having an argument? lol |
| 20:14.54 | Groktar | you have no argument |
| 20:15.07 | cairnz | the authenticator sucked for boxers, as you'd have to wait for new code for each account |
| 20:15.18 | cairnz | don't know if they fixed that though |
| 20:15.26 | aestil | eh? |
| 20:15.40 | cairnz | people with multiple accounts (i have five) |
| 20:15.43 | Axodious | yes i do, their is no finish line in the ticketing system, no matter how many tickets you prevent it's still an infinite amount |
| 20:15.45 | aestil | oh. |
| 20:16.03 | cairnz | if i was to use the authenticator it'd take 5 * X seconds to log on, since i'd have to wait X seconds before authenticator refreshes code |
| 20:16.04 | Axodious | there* |
| 20:16.32 | Groktar | so you're suggesting there are unanswered tickets? |
| 20:16.34 | aestil | cairnz: ah, yes. that is the minority case though i think. |
| 20:17.13 | Axodious | tickets go unanswered all the time because ppl get fed up waiting, by the time 1 gm answers 1 ticket theres like 500 more already |
| 20:17.16 | aestil | this argument is akin to saying that reducing the amount of cars on the freeway will not reduce congestion because there are always some cars on the freeway and you can never reduce them all. |
| 20:18.00 | Axodious | a freeway is not packed 24/7 |
| 20:18.06 | cairnz | neither is wow |
| 20:18.15 | Axodious | pretty much the same amount of tickets are being filed at any point during the day |
| 20:18.23 | cairnz | really? |
| 20:18.24 | Axodious | because it's world wide |
| 20:18.41 | Groktar | because the NA gms are working on german tickets |
| 20:18.42 | cairnz | gm's don't answer tickets on a global basis |
| 20:18.51 | cairnz | (unless they've changed) |
| 20:19.04 | Groktar | it would be retarded to do it that way |
| 20:19.04 | cairnz | English GMs don't (didn't) answer german-realm tickets. |
| 20:19.18 | cairnz | and vice versa |
| 20:19.21 | Axodious | they answer for all of america no? brazil etc is on the NA servers if they get the game no? |
| 20:19.44 | cairnz | Axodious: ticket system is region-based, not world-based |
| 20:19.59 | Groktar | there are 3 latin american realms Axodious |
| 20:20.03 | cairnz | NA/US realms have their GMs that deal with those, EU has theirs, and KR / CH has theirs |
| 20:20.24 | cairnz | in EU ticket peak was 17-23 |
| 20:20.35 | Axodious | i know that cairnz, however gms from east coast answer west coast ticketsi n the states |
| 20:20.37 | cairnz | (late 2005 data though, i might be outdated) |
| 20:20.59 | cairnz | Axodious: probably. I don't know how they work there |
| 20:21.05 | cairnz | what's the argument about really? |
| 20:21.09 | aestil | axoidious, who is that relevant? |
| 20:21.17 | aestil | how even. |
| 20:21.19 | aestil | seriously. |
| 20:21.32 | Axodious | the amount of tickets comming in is a (fairly) steady rate |
| 20:21.47 | aestil | most of them are 'i'm stuck' or 'i didn't get an item'. |
| 20:21.52 | cairnz | not anymore |
| 20:21.53 | aestil | those take 5 mintues for a GM to fix. |
| 20:22.00 | Axodious | there will always be at least 10 tickets for every 1 answered |
| 20:22.05 | cairnz | people can unstick and use HS |
| 20:22.23 | aestil | something like 'my whole account got hacked and my guild bank got hacked and all my characters have been deleted' takes so much longer to resolve. |
| 20:22.25 | cairnz | Axodious: i personally have cleared ticket queues for EU realms |
| 20:22.38 | cairnz | GMs work faster than tickets on a normal basis. |
| 20:22.38 | aestil | and yes, it would save blizzard tremendous amounts of money to get rid of those problems. |
| 20:22.42 | cairnz | a stuck ticket takes ~20seconds |
| 20:22.52 | cairnz | (for a non-retard gm) |
| 20:23.06 | cairnz | open account, select char, port to hs loc, close, tag ticket, done. |
| 20:23.13 | cairnz | (send ingame mail) |
| 20:23.20 | aestil | but please, keep insisting that it won't save blizzard money to almost completley eliminate comprimised acounts. |
| 20:23.30 | aestil | since the authenticator is essentially free. |
| 20:23.37 | Axodious | so you're saying in the 20 seconds (+rp im guessing) that another ticket hasn't been filed in your area? |
| 20:23.39 | cairnz | compromised accounts was the most time consuming crap when i worked there |
| 20:24.13 | Groktar | because he's the only gm on the realm, right? |
| 20:24.21 | Axodious | ok here, i'll ask this then, if it's going to save them so much time and money etc etc why haven't they already done it? |
| 20:24.25 | aestil | Axodious: you are making an argument that is entirely without merit. please stop. |
| 20:24.26 | Axodious | why didn't they do it when they released them? |
| 20:24.34 | aestil | availability to begin with. |
| 20:24.35 | cairnz | Axodious: GMs don't work on regions - they work on - well what's now battlegroups |
| 20:24.43 | cairnz | and there was usually 10-20 gms per battlegroup |
| 20:24.48 | Groktar | ya, they sell out like crazy |
| 20:25.06 | aestil | i think they have a better distrobution channel. |
| 20:25.17 | cairnz | so yeah, sometimes a new ticket came in while you worked on one, but most of the time (atleast we managed to) the tickets got cleared out in a nice manner. |
| 20:25.24 | aestil | it would actually save them a bunch of headaches with distrobution of them as well if it was inserted into the box with the game. |
| 20:25.36 | aestil | instead of having to deal with individually mailing them out to many people. |
| 20:25.39 | cairnz | Axodious: if you think that there are more inbound tickets than answered tickets you're wrong. everyone gets a reply if they bother to wait. |
| 20:25.48 | aestil | you'd be inserting them into the boxes and then mailing them out to the game stores. |
| 20:26.14 | aestil | whether or not they will or will not do this, i have no idea. |
| 20:26.23 | aestil | but i know that it would be a fiscal net gain. |
| 20:26.59 | Groktar | i don't know about that |
| 20:27.10 | aestil | these things are almost free. |
| 20:27.24 | aestil | you pay blizzard for the time it takes them to process and the cost of shipping. |
| 20:27.39 | Groktar | most accounts don't get compromised tho |
| 20:28.04 | aestil | so, it takes what, 4 - 8 hours to restore an account? |
| 20:28.07 | aestil | 4 - 8 hours of work? |
| 20:28.40 | Groktar | i'd guess an hour, personally |
| 20:28.44 | cairnz | i don't know |
| 20:28.53 | cairnz | there are several processes in regards to compromised |
| 20:28.58 | aestil | really? i think they investigate quite a bit before they just give stuff back. |
| 20:29.06 | cairnz | you include gms, billing and support, account administration |
| 20:29.12 | KriLL3 | [Crystallized Tear] best pvp loot, ever. |
| 20:29.28 | aestil | i'd bet the cost of every 'comprimsed' account is probably like 60 - 70 bucks. |
| 20:29.37 | aestil | when its all said and done. |
| 20:29.56 | cairnz | what do you reckon the ratio of compromised accounts vs battle-net accounts is? |
| 20:30.48 | aestil | if its 60, they could give away probably 100 of those gizmoes without a loss, and meanwhile you have a much happier base of customers who aren't getting their stupitity taken advantage of. |
| 20:35.26 | Ingelagr | anyone that could please help me with rawr? I just want to add a fitler that makes Trophy of the Crusade ignored and not accounted for |
| 20:37.02 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 07bar-to-bar-attach * r122 / (2 files in 2 directories): mostly harmless |
| 20:41.53 | Repo | 10hexmessage: 03stolenlegacy * r13 / (2 files in 1 directory): ToC push for 3.3 |
| 20:41.54 | Repo | Hex encoding now works with party leader |
| 20:43.56 | Repo | 10buffthetree: 03stolenlegacy * r27 / (2 files in 1 directory): -Removed debug messages |
| 20:43.57 | Repo | -Right-click a weapon buff to cancel it |
| 20:48.15 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r19 / (2 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 20:48.17 | Repo | Prep for 0.2-rc2 |
| 20:48.18 | Repo | * GearGauge now properly implemented (it is SO HARD to spell |
| 20:48.20 | Repo | Gauge correctly) |
| 20:48.21 | Repo | * Fixed isertInfoline attachment bug |
| 20:53.31 | sb|work | Shadowed: you should swap the + / - button logic in sexygroup |
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| 20:54.06 | sb|work | Shadowed: (+) should be collapsed view and (-) for expanded items |
| 20:55.23 | Shadowed | will fix it in a bit |
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| 21:07.22 | Repo | 6793a19: Added Shiny Shard of the Flame as a caster item, only people who should really use it are those with Shiny Shard of the Scale |
| 21:07.23 | Repo | c0b92a2: Last but not least, updated toc to reflect changes. Game restart is required, should probably delete SexyGroup/ first too so you don't have duplicate files |
| 21:07.24 | Repo | aaab732: Added blank file for the summary data on your group once that's done |
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| 21:25.49 | stolenlegacy | @project dungeonspeedrunner |
| 21:25.52 | Repo | stolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. Game: WoW. Status: Needs approval. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Updated: 9 hours ago |
| 21:28.05 | Torhal | eblume: If you want to futz with custom scrollbar code, pick apart what I have in Panel.lua for GearGauge. |
| 21:28.26 | Repo | 10sexygroup (experimental): 03Shadowed 07master * v0.1-11-g447137f modules (2 files in 1 directory): [+3 commits] |
| 21:28.28 | Repo | 447137f: Reorganized cache functions slightly |
| 21:28.29 | Repo | 14ef7bf: Cleaned up how item links are passed to the cache tables to take better advantage of the metatable caching |
| 21:28.30 | Repo | 5eed72a: Oops shouldn't be localing the item meta table right now |
| 21:31.20 | Shadowed | Hrm, anyone know where the option is to change how WoWAce sends emails for tickets so you can make it once an hour etc |
| 21:31.28 | Shadowed | I know it's somewhere, but even Google wouldn't be able to find it :| |
| 21:33.29 | Torhal | Shadowed: Go to the project. Click the "Subscriptions" tab, select "Ticket updates" |
| 21:33.50 | Shadowed | Hrm I thought there was one that lets you mass set it |
| 21:33.52 | Shadowed | :( |
| 21:34.00 | Torhal | Not that I've seen. |
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| 21:35.28 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:35.33 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexygroup/. SexyGroup. Shadowed (Manager/Author), Antiarc (Author/Maintainer). Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:37.00 | orionshock | thx Torhal |
| 21:37.11 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: yes, it's horrible; no, it's not gonna change anytime soon, sadly :( |
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| 21:37.24 | Shadowed | what is wowace written in |
| 21:37.29 | Shadowed | who do I have to bribe to let me write something non terrible |
| 21:37.30 | Torhal | Shadowed: python |
| 21:37.36 | eblume | Got a question... is there anything inherently wrong with writing a recursion into a table? I mean, assuming I handle the code correctly, will it cause the GC to barf or something? |
| 21:37.41 | aestil | sexygroup is cool. |
| 21:37.45 | Torhal | Shadowed: That would be netcurse |
| 21:38.03 | Torhal | eblume: Explain... |
| 21:38.57 | eblume | Torhal: I've got a table - a frame actually. One of its deep, deep children needs to be able to access the original parent frame. Wrather than write code to look it up, I'm wondering if I can just go childframe.exported_parent = parentframe |
| 21:38.58 | Xinhuan | eblume, nothing wrong |
| 21:39.06 | Xinhuan | that's fine |
| 21:39.10 | eblume | Ok, cool, thanks! |
| 21:39.16 | eblume | s/wrather/rather/ |
| 21:39.35 | Torhal | eblume: Yes |
| 21:39.36 | Xinhuan | as an example, _G._G is equal to _G |
| 21:39.49 | Torhal | eblume: BTW: The GC doesn't ever get rid of Frames. |
| 21:40.19 | Torhal | You should be recycling old ones if you're creating them on-the-fly then getting rid of them |
| 21:40.28 | aestil | Antiarc: does 'syncing' mean you can sync with other people who use it? like a gatherer mod for PuG's? |
| 21:40.39 | Shadowed | it means you can sync equipment |
| 21:40.42 | Xinhuan | circular reference also doesn't cause memory leaks, unreachable objects are GCed, and if a circle of references is unreachable, they all get GCed |
| 21:40.45 | eblume | yeah, I recycle my frames pretty vigorously |
| 21:40.46 | aestil | or shadowed i get. |
| 21:40.57 | Shadowed | If A is running SG and B is, B can ask for As gear without inspecting |
| 21:41.07 | Shadowed | or if A is in a guild, he can ask everyone in the guild for their notes on B |
| 21:41.08 | Xinhuan | frames are not considered unreachable though, wow has a lua handle on them internally |
| 21:41.14 | aestil | ok. |
| 21:41.24 | aestil | it doesn't have a way of supporting alts right? |
| 21:41.27 | Shadowed | not right now |
| 21:41.42 | Shadowed | Want to support it, but we need a way of doing it that's a bit more secure and less cheatable |
| 21:41.48 | aestil | for example, say I have immortal on my hunter, but not on my lock, and my lock has never even done uldar? |
| 21:41.58 | Shadowed | see above |
| 21:42.30 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/rw2_addonmessagecheck/. RW2_AddonMessageCheck. mangeg (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:42.42 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/alt-tab-toggle/. Alt-Tab Toggle. Cyprias (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:42.53 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/buff-eh/. Buff, eh?. bregant2 (Manager/Author/Tester/Maintainer/Ticket Manager/Documenter/Translator/Artist/Contributor). Experimental. Approved by Torhal. |
| 21:44.07 | aestil | you need blizzard to expose something in the API to make it something that people can't cheat on? |
| 21:44.14 | aestil | or...? |
| 21:44.37 | Shadowed | Just in general |
| 21:44.37 | Torhal | aestil: Right now, someone could write an AddOn to fake the communication, thereby "cheating" by injecting false information |
| 21:44.41 | aestil | it would be very useful to know if the tank is an alt of a character that is on a server first type of guild. or something like that. |
| 21:44.49 | Shadowed | and also very easy to cheat |
| 21:44.53 | Shadowed | which is why it's not in right now |
| 21:45.04 | aestil | *nods* |
| 21:45.27 | aestil | with the alt name thing in chat mods, there is no real reason to cheat it, so its not a problem to put it in. |
| 21:45.37 | aestil | even though that information isn't verifiable per se. |
| 21:45.58 | Shadowed | The assumption is that this will become popular and that people will try and cheat it if they can |
| 21:46.02 | Shadowed | and alt information is super easy to cheat |
| 21:46.02 | Shadowed | so |
| 21:46.04 | aestil | yu're right. |
| 21:46.09 | aestil | you're. |
| 21:46.16 | Shadowed | It's not going to go in until we have a workable solution for that |
| 21:46.23 | aestil | cheaters make good things less usefull for other people. |
| 21:46.40 | stolenlegacy | /run SendAddOnMessage("TheMod", UnitName("player").."|alt|Kungen") |
| 21:46.44 | stolenlegacy | hey guys im in ensidia! |
| 21:46.49 | aestil | *nods* |
| 21:47.12 | Repo | 10iccautopilot (experimental): 03DigitalSorceress * r2 / (29 files in 7 directories): ICCAutoPilot: Initial Import |
| 21:47.14 | Repo | -- Importing first ICCAutoPilot |
| 21:47.21 | aestil | the armory doesn't store any kind of information like which characters are on a certain account. |
| 21:47.27 | stolenlegacy | it does |
| 21:47.31 | Shadowed | It's just not visible |
| 21:47.34 | stolenlegacy | but only revealed to the account owner on login |
| 21:47.55 | Shadowed | And that doesn't help since you can't get network access in game |
| 21:48.30 | aestil | <The Church> (24) is the first guild to defeat Yogg-Saron in Heroic Difficulty without the assistance of any Keepers on the Darkspear realm! The characters who took part have each earned the title, "Death's Demise." - Today, 15 hours ago |
| 21:48.43 | Repo | 10iccautopilot (experimental): 03DigitalSorceress * r3 Libs/: ICCAutoPilot: Removing manual copies of Ace Libs |
| 21:48.45 | aestil | thats cool. i've never logged into the wowarmory. nifty 'news' |
| 21:48.45 | Repo | -- (they're externals) |
| 21:49.40 | stolenlegacy | aestil: they had exodus on there for 7 days |
| 21:49.44 | stolenlegacy | after they had been banned |
| 21:50.00 | eblume | Ok, got a UI question. I want to tinge a frame's background red, blue, or black depending on some circumstances. The backdrop is set to the Tooltip backdrop with the appropriate border. I tried using :SetBackdropColor() to no avail. |
| 21:50.16 | eblume | Should I be instead creating a solid color texture above the backdrop? |
| 21:50.19 | aestil | oh. no, thats just my guild, and it was like a custom tailored message to me when I logged in. |
| 21:50.23 | aestil | or does everyone see that? |
| 21:50.46 | stolenlegacy | aestil: you need to use a blank .tga file with SetBackdrop() |
| 21:50.49 | stolenlegacy | and then SetBackdropColor() that |
| 21:51.04 | aestil | [you mean eblume] |
| 21:51.08 | eblume | Heh, thanks stolenlegacy |
| 21:51.14 | stolenlegacy | aestil: yes |
| 21:51.17 | stolenlegacy | eblume: np |
| 21:51.45 | eblume | stolenlegacy: is there no other way? I like the Tooltip's backdrop and don't feel like making a tga |
| 21:52.14 | stolenlegacy | eblume: hmm |
| 21:52.24 | stolenlegacy | you already SetBackdrop() to the tooltip text? |
| 21:52.53 | eblume | Sorry, let me explain - the frame isn't a tooltip. It's just that the panel I'm making uses the UI-Tooltip somethingorother backdrop |
| 21:52.53 | stolenlegacy | s/text/texture/ |
| 21:53.12 | eblume | So, yes. |
| 21:53.19 | stolenlegacy | in that case, use SetBackdrop() to apply the tooltip backdrop texture |
| 21:53.43 | stolenlegacy | and then SetBackdropColor() to tint that |
| 21:53.56 | eblume | resultframe:SetBackdrop({bgFile ="Interface/DialogFrame/UI-DialogBox-Background", |
| 21:54.03 | eblume | (there is more to the table, but that's the call) |
| 21:54.10 | eblume | Sorry, it's a tooltip border, apparently a DialogBox background |
| 21:54.38 | eblume | Anyway - that's the call I've been using. :SetbackdropColor() doesn't seem to have an effect. |
| 21:55.16 | Torhal | eblume: Look at my backdrop code in Volumizer |
| 21:55.45 | eblume | will do Torhal |
| 21:55.53 | stolenlegacy | eblume: can i get a pastey of your code? |
| 21:56.01 | stolenlegacy | paste.wowace.com |
| 21:56.13 | eblume | I'll paste the relevant section |
| 21:56.18 | stolenlegacy | thanks |
| 21:57.30 | eblume | http://paste.wowace.com/1579/ |
| 21:57.49 | mitchnull | arrow: you around? |
| 21:57.57 | stolenlegacy | eblume: sorry, but do you anchor that frame to anything? |
| 21:58.00 | stolenlegacy | it has no points |
| 21:58.24 | eblume | I do, but showing you that code becomes problematic as it's sitting in the middle of a lot of frame recycling code |
| 21:58.32 | eblume | I'll make a bigger paste, but it might be too big |
| 21:58.45 | stolenlegacy | go ahead |
| 21:59.35 | eblume | http://paste.wowace.com/1580/ |
| 22:00.15 | eblume | insertPlayer() at the bottom is the attachment code |
| 22:01.23 | eblume | updatePlayer() is not shown (I think), it's what sets the values of labels and inserts lines into the linebox as needed. I don't think it's important here. |
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| 22:04.41 | stolenlegacy | hm |
| 22:05.22 | Repo | 10buff-eh (experimental): 03bregant2 * r2 buff-eh (59 files in 13 directories): |
| 22:05.24 | Repo | Initial commit, basic ace3 addon. Contains none of the actual planned features yet. |
| 22:05.37 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r86 / (2 files in 2 directories): TOC bump. |
| 22:05.42 | eblume | Torhal: I'm looking at the code but I'm not sure what to get from it. It looks like more or less what I already have. |
| 22:06.07 | stolenlegacy | eblume: i think it might be because the tooltip texture is too dark for the tint to be noticable |
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| 22:06.38 | eblume | That is entirely possible. I'm going to try creating a Texture that has the tint and a low alpha, and put that over the backdrop |
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| 22:07.50 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle 04v1.3 * r87 : Tagging as v1.3 |
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| 22:10.59 | stolenlegacy | eblume: i just tried with your code, replacing your tga with the blank one from srf_a |
| 22:11.02 | stolenlegacy | works perfectly fine |
| 22:14.53 | eblume | srf_a? |
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| 22:16.16 | stolenlegacy | @describe sraidframes-advanced |
| 22:16.17 | Repo | stolenlegacy: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sraidframes-advanced/. sRaidFrames Advanced. Advanced features for sRaidFrames |
| 22:17.10 | stolenlegacy | eblume: ^ |
| 22:17.26 | eblume | Thanks - let me try that out |
| 22:17.42 | eblume | The texture method was working too, but was a bit clumsy - the edges leaked out of the borders, for instance |
| 22:18.40 | eblume | which tga is it, stolenlegacy? indicator.tga? |
| 22:19.06 | eblume | nm, that's the only one. |
| 22:19.20 | aestil | did anyone see the inception trailer? |
| 22:19.42 | aestil | this movie looks so cool that it can only disappoint. no way can a hole movie be that cool. |
| 22:20.53 | aestil | although i do have a crush on ellen page and so perhaps that will make up for whatever the movie lacks. |
| 22:22.47 | stolenlegacy | eblume: yes, sure |
| 22:22.52 | stolenlegacy | you might want to reduce your insets, though |
| 22:23.02 | stolenlegacy | since the inset part is not colored |
| 22:24.17 | eblume | stolenlegacy: I tried using my code but simply replacing the previous bgfile with that tga (I, of course, moved the tga into the right folder), but now the background is just completely blank. Furthermore, I can't change the color or opacity of that blankness using :SetBackdropColor() |
| 22:24.43 | stolenlegacy | pastey your code, pls |
| 22:25.26 | eblume | http://paste.wowace.com/1581/ |
| 22:25.33 | eblume | Thanks for your help, btw |
| 22:25.44 | eblume | OH! One sec |
| 22:26.16 | Grum | ~seen zeksie |
| 22:26.21 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 12d 22h 57m 54s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'. |
| 22:26.21 | eblume | Nevermind, it worked PERFECTLY, I just forgot that I had renamed the tga |
| 22:26.21 | Grum | meh! |
| 22:26.26 | eblume | Thanks stolenlegacy! Lifesaver! |
| 22:26.26 | stolenlegacy | eblume: haha |
| 22:26.43 | stolenlegacy | most important thing is the name, obviously |
| 22:26.43 | stolenlegacy | :) |
| 22:27.55 | eblume | :) |
| 22:29.23 | Repo | 10buff-eh (experimental): 03bregant2 * r3 buff-eh/.pkgmeta: |
| 22:29.25 | Repo | Added .pkgmeta file, should resolve problems with libs allowing a local copy of them without them messing up the packager. |
| 22:39.21 | Repo | 10buff-eh (experimental): 03bregant2 * r4 buff-eh/lib/ (7 files in 7 directories): removing old fs to fix heirarchy for packager. |
| 22:40.25 | Repo | 10buff-eh (experimental): 03bregant2 * r5 buff-eh/: removing old fs to fix heirarchy for packager. |
| 22:41.28 | Repo | 10buff-eh (experimental): 03bregant2 * r6 / (5 files in 1 directory): |
| 22:41.30 | Repo | readding files at root to make them accessible to the packager. |
| 22:43.34 | WobWork | canadian buffer? |
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| 22:57.17 | stolenlegacy | night, guys |
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| 22:58.51 | steev | man these blizzard scammers really need to hire someone who can write coherent sentences |
| 22:59.01 | steev | i'm amazed this shit actually works on people |
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| 22:59.15 | Torhal | I am not. |
| 22:59.21 | steev | When we carry out a routine check when the account, we have evidence to show that your account has been involved in the disputed transactions. |
| 22:59.40 | steev | So we have to inform you visit our website |
| 23:00.01 | KriLL3 | steev: looks like perfectly fine English if you're 12, or russian. |
| 23:00.17 | SqueeG | Torhal! |
| 23:00.31 | steev | KriLL3: yeah... |
| 23:00.39 | steev | i guess getting 1% is better than 10% |
| 23:01.17 | steev | X-Originating-Email: [dalaran_frostfire@hotmail.com] |
| 23:01.22 | Torhal | SqueeG: Foof? |
| 23:01.33 | SqueeG | Is Syllabus working? |
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| 23:01.41 | KriLL3 | everyone knows that all official blizzard mail comes from hotmail |
| 23:01.46 | SqueeG | description says in planning phase |
| 23:02.40 | SqueeG | and is it LDB specific or does it just have a feed as a bonus? |
| 23:02.42 | Torhal | SqueeG: Nah. I decided that my previous approach (writing a better TrainerFu) was flawed and that I should go another route with it, but then I started working on Collectinator, then spent a month revamping ARL, then I wrote TravelAgent... |
| 23:03.00 | steev | http://dpaste.com/138659/ |
| 23:03.10 | SqueeG | so, no, it doesn't work' |
| 23:03.14 | SqueeG | Correct? :p |
| 23:03.15 | Torhal | Nope |
| 23:03.34 | SqueeG | Thank you xD |
| 23:04.00 | steev | KriLL3: also, that blizzard is based in china? |
| 23:04.08 | KriLL3 | steev: that's well known |
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| 23:04.24 | Torhal | SqueeG: I thought you vanished. |
| 23:04.45 | SqueeG | Work and personal issues kept me away |
| 23:04.49 | Torhal | Aha |
| 23:05.26 | Repo | 10ailo: 03Starfox 041.0.23 * r84 : Tagging as 1.0.23, forgot to :7 |
| 23:05.26 | SqueeG | I see you've been quite busy. Do you even play the game anymore, or do you just log in to fix code? :p |
| 23:06.00 | Torhal | The latter, and it's been that way for about a year. Every once in awhile an officer in my guild throws me an invite to a raid and I have to drop what I'm doing so I can go. |
| 23:06.02 | Torhal | Heh |
| 23:06.18 | SqueeG | Hahaha |
| 23:06.33 | SqueeG | Ah well |
| 23:06.40 | SqueeG | Everyone enjoys the game in different ways |
| 23:07.07 | Torhal | Every once in awhile I go back to Blade's Edge and try to figure out where the hell the last six quests I need are. |
| 23:07.23 | SqueeG | Hahahahahaha |
| 23:07.38 | SqueeG | Alliance or Horde? |
| 23:07.42 | Torhal | Horde |
| 23:08.05 | KriLL3 | get everyquest |
| 23:08.17 | KriLL3 | tells you |
| 23:09.00 | SqueeG | Not a bad idea... there're areas that I still need to find stuff in too xD |
| 23:09.18 | Torhal | I'll have to check that out. I tried QuestHelper since the quest API was opened a bit, but it was directing me to things that were either parts of chain quests that I hadn't found the beginninf of, were Alliance quests, or simply didn't exist |
| 23:09.49 | SqueeG | Oooooh |
| 23:09.51 | SqueeG | Get this |
| 23:10.07 | SqueeG | My friend, and guildmate, was hacked for the second time in two months |
| 23:10.16 | SqueeG | This time they locked him out of it using an authenticator xD |
| 23:10.24 | Torhal | Stop going to porn sites, wipe and re-install the OS |
| 23:10.30 | Torhal | Ouch |
| 23:10.44 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 * r123 / (3 files in 2 directories): merged bar-to-bar-attach branch |
| 23:10.54 | Torhal | mitchnull: Zomg? |
| 23:11.16 | mitchnull | torhal: ? |
| 23:11.23 | Torhal | You merged. |
| 23:11.27 | mitchnull | indeed |
| 23:11.31 | mitchnull | seems to work so far :) |
| 23:11.51 | Torhal | Good deal. |
| 23:11.53 | mitchnull | torhal: detached bars don't attach to each other though, sorry :) |
| 23:12.12 | Torhal | I'm confused, then. |
| 23:12.14 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 23:12.21 | mitchnull | top/bottom bars do |
| 23:12.23 | SqueeG | Oh boy! |
| 23:12.33 | SqueeG | The girlfriend has informed me that it's time to go argue with AT+T! |
| 23:12.50 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop * r284 changelog.txt: Updated changelog, wooo! |
| 23:12.51 | SqueeG | Suh-weeeeet... I'll catch you fine gents later |
| 23:12.57 | Torhal | SqueeG: Enjoy. |
| 23:13.33 | SqueeG | Zarnivoop: WOOOOOO! |
| 23:13.42 | Zarnivoop | :) |
| 23:13.55 | orionshock | SqueeG: over what? |
| 23:14.01 | mitchnull | torhal: detached bars will never attach to each other, but I might get around to adding a "snap" feature while dragging. you'd still need to move them one-by-one if you decide to move a bunch, but so far you're the only one wanting this stuff, so... ;) |
| 23:14.27 | Repo | 10skada: 03Zarnivoop 041.2-25 * r285 : Tagging as 1.2-25 |
| 23:14.32 | Torhal | Eh, not really since your profile-copying works correctly. |
| 23:14.42 | Torhal | WTB correct profile copying for SexyMap. |
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| 23:23.10 | Repo | 10bazooka: 03mitch0 04v1.8.0 * r124 : (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 23:23.12 | Repo | Tagging as v1.8.0 |
| 23:23.13 | Repo | - top/bottom attached bars are attached to each other now, tweak* settings are relative to parent bar (previous tweak settings are reset, sorry) |
| 23:23.14 | Repo | - added Bazooka.TopAnchor and Bazooka.BottomAnchor frames for integrators. These mark the top/bottom area occupied by attached bars |
| 23:23.15 | Repo | - holding <Alt> while dragging a bar toggles between attached/detached state |
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| 23:24.38 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * 377023a DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] fix onclick handler |
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| 23:39.35 | Yssaril | enjoys his newfound symlink powers |
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| 23:46.03 | Repo | 10dungeonmate: 03eblume * r22 / (3 files in 1 directory): * Major restructuring of the update cycle |
| 23:46.05 | Repo | * Color-coded frames based on ignore/favorite status |
| 23:46.06 | Repo | * Update cycle should be much faster and easier to hook in to. |
| 23:46.07 | Repo | * Moved a lot of work from updatePlayer to manufacturePlayerFrame |
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