irclog2html for #wowace on 20100104

00:00.05Gnarfoz01:00:01|MrPlow: MrPlow begins a full rework of your bank
00:01.30ShefkiMrPlow says very nice bank, nom nom nom.
00:02.30WobWorkGnarfoz: is it infinite looping?
00:02.35orionshockTorhal: you should post somewhere that the per-addon forums are by request
00:02.48WobWorkorionshock: how do you request them?
00:02.52GnarfozWobWork: don't think so? nothing's moving :> I fixed it by hand already
00:02.53WobWorkI just had the option there already...
00:03.04Torhalorionshock: I responded to your forum message with that info.
00:05.32Repo10critic: 03Zeksie * r11 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix pkgmeta (was missing LibSharedMedia)
00:05.34RepoAdded DK and Shaman hit talent modifiers.
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00:12.57Antiarcokay
00:12.59AntiarcThe addon works
00:13.01AntiarcAnd it is awesome
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00:13.28Antiarcalso it was a lot more wokr than I'd anticipated
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00:15.14WobWorkAntiarc: SexyBuffs?
00:15.17GnarfozWobWork: wut? http://paste.wowace.com/1589/
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00:16.19AntiarcBlessed, yeah
00:16.53GnarfozAntiarc: does it communicate with PP?
00:17.03AntiarcNo comms yet.
00:17.08AntiarcJust all the local buff logic is handled.
00:17.19AntiarcI don't know that I'll support PP, though
00:17.30AntiarcThe PP protocol is one of the biggest reasons I'm writing my own
00:17.41Gnarfozif you want it to ever gain any ground, you'll have to :p
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00:18.20GnarfozI've not met anyone, ever, who used anything besides PP for their blessings management =( the only other alternative I've encountered is "nothing" ;D
00:19.38WobWorkGnarfoz: is that happening after a reload?
00:19.42Hjalte_I just plugged in a wireless router I borrowed. I have a wired connection from the router to my PC. It shouldn't slow down my internet, should it?
00:19.46GnarfozWobWork: yes
00:20.03GnarfozWobWork: I reload continually each time after QA has emptied my mailbox, to speed up the process
00:20.24Gnarfoz@describe uprank
00:20.25RepoGnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/uprank/. UpRank. Update spells that are not max rank
00:20.29Gnarfozahaha
00:20.29Gnarfoz:D
00:20.54WobWorkGnarfoz: have you got any special bags, or any new item in your inventory you didn't before?
00:21.18GnarfozWobWork: 2 inscription bags equipped (the other 2 are in my inventory))
00:21.34Hjalte_Ah, my internet speed seems to be back to normal. http://www.speedtest.net/result/670980530.png. Is there anything else I should think about, in regards to gaming?
00:21.55AntiarcGnarfoz: I know I'll probably have to support it in some form
00:21.56AntiarcBut ugh
00:21.58AntiarcIt's ugly
00:22.00GnarfozHjalte: as long as your PC doesn't have wireless... well
00:22.01AntiarcIt's really, really ugly
00:23.19Hjalte_Gnarfoz: No, I kept a wired connection for my pc on purpose. But I'm thinking about ports and such. Right now there are no rules - does it then just allow everything through?
00:23.36Gnarfozwut? *confused*
00:23.56Gnarfozif you don't use the WLAN, turn it off
00:24.54Hjalte_Gnarfoz: I do, for my phone :)
00:25.56WobWorkGnarfoz: what happens when you move the inscription bags out of your inventory?
00:26.18GnarfozWobWork: I have no clue, why would that affect anything o_O
00:26.23Gnarfozalso, the error only occured once =)
00:26.46Gnarfozthey're only items in my inventory, like anything else (I hope? :D)
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00:32.11Repo10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r206 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add a wider range of icons to select from.
00:33.02WobWorkGnarfoz: yeah, just trying to track down anomalies
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00:42.01Axodiousanyone know of a mod that i can use for hysteria that basically works the same way as a focus macro? i just don't want to use the focus frame for it >_<
00:42.35ShadowedI'm going to go with "no"
00:43.04Axodious/sadface
00:43.56Axodioussomeone in guild came up with a good idea
00:43.58Axodiousclique
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00:50.39GnarfozWobWork: wut? O_O http://paste.wowace.com/1590/
00:50.48Gnarfozattempt to yield across metamethod/C-call boundary:
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00:56.45WobWorkare you hammering the sort button or something? =P
01:03.04AntiarcAxodious: /cast [target=Joe] Hysteria - works as long as Joe is in your raid.
01:03.40WobWorkor clique will work
01:04.12koaschtenAxodious would be smarter to just use /cast [@focus] Hysteria and put your hsteria target in focus
01:04.24AntiarcHe said he didn't want to use the focus frame for it
01:04.51koaschteni ignored it because its stupid, why wouldn't you use the focus for something that useful? ;)
01:05.39WobWorkbecause it's a single instance event
01:06.13WobWorkYou can use Hysteria on different targets depending on circumstances
01:06.23AntiarcI just use a mouseover macro for Tricks
01:06.45WobWorkHysteria is different to aggro redirection
01:07.02Antiarc<PROTECTED>
01:07.06AntiarcTricks is a damage boost.
01:07.16AntiarcFirst cast is on the tank, subsequent casts are on a DPS
01:07.28koaschtenthat looks like my macro Antiarc :D
01:07.41AntiarcThat's what I use, has worked just fine since beta
01:07.54koaschtenjust that i target directly to overide the focus instead of mouseover
01:07.55WobWorkhysteria will  damage the target =)
01:08.01koaschtentricks will too
01:08.07koaschtenif the tank suxx ;)
01:08.29koaschtendamn did we have fun in that one run with 7 rogues
01:08.32WobWorknot the same though
01:08.39WobWorkthat's increased damage intake
01:08.40koaschtenand the off warrior yelled for tricks for damage boost
01:08.47koaschtenso we chained tricks on him
01:08.47WobWorkHysteria is guaranteed 30% health loss
01:08.55koaschtentill sartahrion splatted him
01:09.00koaschten:D
01:09.14koaschtenthat was after the 3 adds were dead, mind you
01:09.27koaschtendamn thats been long ago
01:09.32Antiarcslow damage taken is pretty inconsequential with raid healers
01:09.33WobWorkwhy did he pull aggro? =P
01:09.55koaschtenWobWork cause 7 rogues chained tricks on him while using their dps cooldowns? ;)
01:10.09WobWorkoh ha
01:10.10koaschtenwhen it still stacked both components
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01:10.16koaschtenback in 3.0
01:10.31koaschtenhe saw some 9-10k dps and then imploded
01:10.33koaschten:D
01:10.37WobWorksilly offtank
01:10.46WobWorktricks are for kids =P
01:10.57koaschtenmost fun was shadow priests with rolling sw:p on patchwork
01:10.59Repo10blessed: 03Antiarc 07master * a8bfa58 Blessed.lua: [+1 commit] Basically rewrote the whole thing, yay. Is now pretty much usable for self-usage; doesn't do comms yet, but the whole buff selection and application bit all works right.
01:11.05koaschtenthey always ask for it but are not in range -.-
01:11.41WobWorkugh, I played my DK for the first time in ages
01:11.45WobWorksince patch
01:11.57WobWorkI have kitted out my shaman in both dps/heal t9
01:12.07WobWorkmy DK's dps is so terrible
01:12.18WobWorkmaybe I should look to DW
01:12.37WobWorkcause I don't want to tank ><
01:12.40koaschtenAntiarc on a quest to make more addons obsolete since 2005? gearscore, KLHTM ... damn there must be more
01:12.59koaschtenand now pallypower?
01:13.04koaschten;)
01:13.23AntiarcForte Xorcist, every minimap addon, other chat addons... :P
01:13.35koaschteni am using blizzard default !
01:13.36WobWorkAntiarc: Refactoring Crap Since 2007
01:13.36Gnarfozkoaschten: EG is just as bad as GS
01:13.39koaschten(minimap that is)
01:14.02WobWorkkoaschten: you should be using SexyMap!
01:14.09Gnarfozalso, SexyMap is worthless for anyone with something else than a circular minimap
01:14.13koaschteni dont like the circling bling
01:14.20koaschtenso what does sexymap do beside that?
01:14.22WobWorkalthough I was dragging the lfd eye around my sexymap
01:14.25WobWorkand it got stuck
01:14.28Gnarfozhide minimap buttons that I don't have anyway? lol
01:14.30WobWorkand I reloaded
01:14.33WobWorkand it disappeared
01:14.40WobWork=(
01:14.53Gnarfozalso, there's been other attempts to obsolete PP, none succeeded so far. :P
01:15.01WobWorkso I couldn't teleport out
01:15.18koaschtenzomgbuffs might have been very popular, but noone could convince paladins to drop pp for it
01:15.24koaschten"its too complicated"
01:15.29Gnarfozbecause it did way more than PP?
01:15.32Gnarfozobvious fail
01:15.39AntiarcSexymap does a lot of stuff
01:15.41WobWorkfeature creep is a terrbile thing
01:15.42koaschtenwhats complicated about an addon that automatically assigns blessings for you and auras
01:15.47AntiarcAnd sexymap can be any shape, not just a circle
01:15.53Antiarckoaschten: You'd be surprised, heh
01:15.54Gnarfozexcept it does shit for all classes, koaschten
01:15.55Adremmakoaschten: judging by our paladins, everything
01:16.04SunTsukoaschten: I use ZOMG, but communication with PP looks flawed
01:16.17Gnarfozalso, who said an addon knows what I want? automation ftl
01:16.19koaschtenAdremma so they like to adjust minor blessings for every offspec?
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01:16.43Adremmakoaschten: they shouldn't be, normally we have 5+ paladins and they still can't figure things out
01:16.47koaschteni'd get sick of that within my first raid if i had a paladin
01:17.00GnarfozI know why I want certain players to buff certain things, mostly I do kings myself because I don't die in fires
01:17.03elite3vilAnyone know of an addon that's good at tracking kitty druid debuffs?
01:17.04koaschten5 paladins in a 25man`?
01:17.08koaschtenyour lineup is flawed ;)
01:17.18Adremmayes. yes it is.
01:17.19Gnarfozso people who die in fires at least have kings when they get rezzed :p
01:17.47koaschtenduuh Gnarfoz and i just started to wonder since when buffs fade if the person that applied it dies....
01:18.07Gnarfozheh
01:18.32Gnarfozalso, 5 paladins is not flawed at all, you can have all raid buffs and still have 8 slots or something for whatever you like :p
01:18.42koaschtenon my pet druid i run this bloated "feral by night" but if you just want to track uptime... try eventhorizon?
01:18.46Gnarfozgo stacked raids!
01:19.13Adremmayeah, except we don't have all raid de/buffs
01:19.14koaschtenguess i am a bit against stacked raids, because it always means, less rogues
01:19.24Adremmapartially because the paladins tend to be divided 2 prot/3+ holy
01:19.27WobWorkpally buffs disappear if the pally dies, wut?
01:19.34koaschtenhahahaha
01:19.37GnarfozWobWork: they don't, of course :p
01:19.43elite3vilThanks koaschten. :)
01:20.07Gnarfozkoaschten: why would it mean that? that'd totally depend on the situation
01:20.18koaschtenno, the raidleader ;)
01:20.57koaschtenwhats the reason for running 2 dps warrior, 2 kitties and 3 dks and 1 rogue? + prot warrior and bear
01:21.08Adremmabut, yeah. give me a good alternative to PP/ZOMG, I'd mandate it
01:21.09koaschtendrop those kitties and dps warriors
01:21.15koaschtenthey dont add anything of value
01:21.52koaschtenthe best pallypower/zomg replacement would just scan the specs of the raid, do a clever assignment, broadcast it and be good to go
01:22.23koaschtenand honestly, zomg isn't that bad if you play more than one buff-enabled class
01:22.34AntiarcI really like zomg a lot, but it's not a PP replacement for me
01:22.35koaschtenit allows you to run 1 mod for all classes
01:22.38AntiarcIt serves a somewhat different function
01:23.02elite3vilHow so?
01:23.21AntiarcI primarily tend to use it for beacon/sacred shield/crusader aura when mounted, that kind of thing
01:23.23koaschtenit nags me about poisons on my rogue, fel armor on my warlock, armor and shout on my dk, buffs on my priest
01:23.30AntiarcI don't like the one-button-buff display for the whole raid
01:23.34AdremmaI sorta like that (especially since I've a druid main but still somehow wind up being the one managing blessings) about zomg, but it's not worth the headache it's been recently
01:23.42WobWorkshout on your dk?
01:23.48Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v0.8-beta-10-gdf1fa61 modules/users.lua: [+2 commits]
01:23.50koaschtenthat ap buff thing
01:23.50Repodf1fa61: Experimenting with equipment display changes, removed the checkmark/X for gear, instead coloring the text red if it's invalid, changed to showing the item level if there are no enhancement issues with an item
01:23.51Antiarchorn
01:23.51Repode0176b: Fixed spacing for the database, players name won't go outside the frame
01:23.57koaschtenyeah thx Antiarc
01:24.03WobWorkI guess it's a 'shout' =P
01:24.14Antiarchttp://i.imgur.com/dGSvX.jpg
01:24.20AntiarcThat's the addon in the lower left
01:24.21koaschtenguess i play it too little.. 200 dailys done at lvl74, 3 levels via jc daily i guess ^^
01:24.30AntiarcThe addon is basically your self buffs, plus a button per class in the group
01:24.45AntiarcMouse over a class, get a popout of its members, or alt-mouseover to choose a greater blessing for that class
01:24.52AntiarcCan select singles for a person by mousing over them
01:24.52Shadowedweird
01:24.58Shadowedwhy do role icons show
01:25.00Shadowedyou aren't in a heroic
01:25.04AntiarcI was
01:25.12ShadowedOdd though they went away
01:25.16AntiarcApparently not
01:25.29koaschtenthe more interesting question is... whats that abomination in the top right?
01:25.35WobWorkhehe
01:25.39AntiarcRaidBuffStatus. It's amazing.
01:25.50AntiarcIt figures out if literally anything is missing from anyone in the raid
01:25.54AntiarcI'm the raid buff asshole
01:26.05AntiarcCtrl-click to whisper people to tell them to buff what's missing. It's amazing.
01:26.16koaschtenso its kinda a bloated XRS?
01:26.16AntiarcIt disappears in combat, no worries :P
01:26.27AntiarcI dropped XRS because it was so bloated, heh
01:26.31AntiarcMaybe it's better nowadays
01:26.38Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v0.9-beta * 16b3fba /: [new tag] Tagging as beta 0.9
01:26.50koaschtenits not been developed for more than a year when moonsorrow quit wow ;)
01:27.00elite3vilRaidBuffStatus is amazing.
01:27.01Repo10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r207 / (2 files in 2 directories):
01:27.03RepoAdd ability to enable and disable plugins from showing on the map in the HandyNotes options.
01:28.31koaschtenSomeone should start a column on wowace or curse about addon developers and their used addons and why they use them, might become interesting :)
01:28.57Shadowedhahaha
01:29.00Shadowedoh god
01:29.03koaschtenespecially talking about pro/contra of some alternatives ;)
01:29.04Shadowedthat would be hilariously awful
01:29.15Xinhuangearscore: why you use it
01:29.17Xinhuanlolol
01:29.27koaschtenbecause i am too lazy to armory people, obviously
01:30.02koaschtenexperience, elitistgroup ... why are(n't) they better?
01:30.19ShadowedGearscore is going to be amusing when the author releases his new version
01:30.24Shadowedwith even more terrible ineffiencies than before
01:30.27koaschtenafter all they are just... stop, we had this discussion before christmas, no?
01:38.06steevgod i hate leveling mining
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01:46.39Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r440 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-phishing update
01:47.41Repo10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.0.3.4 * r441 : Tagging as v4.0.3.4
01:47.57Repo10blizzmove: 03yess * r15 BlizzMove.lua: Make the raid browser movable
01:50.33Shadowedmm what was the bug with gearscore that caused it to crash again
01:50.41Shadowedit got stuck into an infinite loop of sending addon messages?
01:53.14Silowyiso I think for the expansion I'm going to switch from JC/enchanter to BS/engineer XD
01:54.40GnarfozShadowed: is that important now that that version is banned? ^^
01:54.51SunTsuShadowed: as far as I am concerned, GearScore could get stuck in it forever ;)
01:55.02ShadowedNot really, just curious
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02:03.03Ingela^now sweden are gonna pwn the US
02:05.27Gnarfoz?
02:05.54Ingela^sweden - us in icehockey
02:06.23Ingela^it's JVM
02:06.36GnarfozJwhat?
02:06.58Ingela^WM?
02:06.58Ingela^:D
02:07.03Ingela^uhm
02:07.06Ingela^what the hell is it on english
02:07.11Ingela^world championship
02:07.14Ingela^JWC!
02:07.24Ingela^junior
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02:08.12SilowyiI would be willing to bet the number of people who care about JWC ice hockey in this room is even less than the number of people that care about curling...
02:08.33Silowyithough, I do like curling...
02:08.40Ingela^i like curling too!
02:14.59Repo10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r154 BankItems.lua:
02:15.01RepoItems with the same name but with different itemIDs (such as heroic and non-heroic versions of the same item) are now treated as different items in the tooltips.
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02:25.30Znuffeww
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02:27.24mojosdojo@describe blessed
02:27.25Repomojosdojo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Intelligent, slim paladin blessing management
02:36.12WobWorkbasically Antiarc is saying PP is dumb and fat =(
02:36.53Groktari'm suspicious by any antiarc mod that doesn't have sexy in the name
02:36.58Groktaris this one *not* sexy?
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02:38.41orionshockanyway to modify the totem bar to cast a totem from the fly out with a modifier click?
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02:39.35steevuh oh
02:39.35steevThis project has an abnormal status: Changes required.
02:39.35steevYour project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use.
02:39.41quiescensrun awai
02:40.06AntiarcIt's alpha
02:40.11AntiarcIt doesn't need a description yet
02:40.19quiescensexcuses
02:40.45orionshockAntiarc: just don't turn into ckknight with your addons.
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02:41.03AntiarcHow so
02:41.11AntiarcIf you mean "write and then forget about" that's already me
02:41.14orionshockGreat Awesome Abandoned addons
02:41.18AntiarcI write addons for myself, and then just happen to share them with you all :P
02:41.25AntiarcThe ones I use I maintain
02:41.30AntiarcThe ones I don't I accept patches for
02:43.32orionshocknot trying to be being mean ckknight :) they are still great addons
02:44.27Megalonurban legends say ckknight once did Fisker and abandoned him
02:44.48ckknightnah, I never completed him, Megalon
02:44.55ckknightjust let him out in the wild a bit early
02:45.22Megalondamn you
02:45.31Megalonfor creating the anti-matter to common sense!
02:45.45Ingela^common sense is not so common
02:46.39Megalonand it's all Fisker's fault
02:46.53Ingela^fisk means fish in swedish
02:46.57Ingela^i smell conspriacy
02:48.09Megalonsmells to fishy if you ask me
02:50.38ckknightso his name means "Fisher"?
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03:06.58VanishI don't suppose anyone is in here that has access to user accounts for the forums?
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03:20.02Repo10grid-status-res: 03Phanx * r55 / (13 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
03:20.04Repo- Proper update for GridModule -> Grid:GetModule("GridModule")
03:20.05Repo- Condense all translations to a single file; it's pointless to have individual files with only 4 translations!
03:20.06Repo- Get rid of useless embeds.xml and reference libs from the TOC with no-lib-strip tags
03:20.07Repo- Remove empty libs directory; the packager will add it if it's needed
03:40.43Repo10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r208 / (3 files in 1 directory):
03:40.44RepoAdd the ability to create/change/copy/delete profiles in HandyNotes. HandyNotes was already using Ace3 profiles, just that this wasn't exposed.
03:41.36Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6921 / (4 files in 2 directories): Citadel: Tweak some plagueworks bosses.
03:41.38RepoCore: toc bump.
03:44.21Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r6922-release * r6922 : Tagging as r6922-release
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03:50.21HjalteCan anyone tell me why my forum looks like this http://afterlife-eu.com/ after moving to its new website? I did redo the config.php file. I manually transfered the mysql tables and files. ACP works fine.
03:53.29MegalonError: The stylesheet http://afterlife-eu.com/style.php?id=2&lang=en&sid=d3e8b1c0a72ab33626acbc66475af89b was not loaded because its MIME type, "text/html", is not "text/css".
03:53.29MegalonSource File: http://afterlife-eu.com/
03:53.29MegalonLine: 0
03:55.21HjalteStupid phpmyadmin doesn't seem to export all tables
03:55.27HjalteThat might be the problem, I suppose.
04:00.55HjalteMegalon: I just restored the forum via the ACP restore feature. You have any ideas? It still messes up the style.
04:10.50HjalteSeems it's the style that is the problem. I can use one of the other styles and everything works fine, but Arrow style doesn't work at all. Same files and same database. Meh.
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04:49.10Antiarchttp://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49
04:52.54kandarzAntiarc: little too much time on reddit I think
04:54.51AntiarcIt's what I read between pulls!
05:08.25RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tekkrush/. tekKrush. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Tekkub.
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05:15.07Megalonweeee
05:15.09Megaloninstalled :7
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06:41.36asmodaimmm
06:41.41asmodaiso I enabled taintlog
06:41.45asmodaibut where should I see details?
06:41.57asmodaiOnly got the failed because of an addon message
06:42.39Repo10quickstrat (experimental): 03naver * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added some sample strats.
06:42.41RepoAdded the ability for a strat to span multiple lines.
06:42.42RepoAdded a prefix to stat announcements.
06:42.44RepoThe first work on a GUI element.
06:47.48orionshockasmodai: wow/logs/taintlog.txt
06:54.30Shadowed@project quickstrat
06:54.32RepoShadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/quickstrat/. QuickStrat. Game: WoW. Status: Requesting experimental. naver (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 minutes ago
06:54.37asmodaiholy crap, when you use 2 (since I initially didn't see anything) it can fill up quickly :)
06:54.43Shadowedyea
06:55.09ShadowedYou should be able to debug most issues with 1 though
06:55.40asmodaiah
06:55.47asmodaiWe get to blame AntiArc
06:56.32asmodai1/4 07:40:55.860  An action was blocked in combat because of taint from SexyCooldown - SetMultiCastSpell()
06:56.34asmodai1/4 07:40:55.860      Interface\FrameXML\MultiCastActionBarFrame.lua:530 MultiCastFlyoutButton_OnClick()
06:56.37asmodai1/4 07:40:55.860      MultiCastFlyoutButton3:OnClick()
06:56.58asmodaiSo I cannot switch totems on the fly in combat due to that :(
06:57.14orionshockasmodai: is that with or with out embedded libs?
06:57.53orionshock<PROTECTED>
06:58.31Arrowmastertotem bar stuff
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07:00.19Repoimprove portal handling for violet hold, ulic/yoshimo please fix this in the trsnslator thing as well.
07:00.41orionshockasmodai: something tells me that -that taint log is not usefull, as it dosn't give the dive into SexyCooldown
07:02.07Arrowmasteryou need to use taintlog 2 to get more accurate info
07:02.40Shadowedwhat
07:02.44Shadowedthe taint log is quite useful
07:03.36ShadowedI seriously doubt it's SexyCooldowns anyway
07:03.40Shadowedunless Antiarc is doing some weird stuff
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07:06.33ShefkiCan anyone think of any other items that grant honor besides the two Commendations (arena and Wintergrasp)?
07:07.22Shadowedthree
07:07.29Shefkithree?
07:07.32ShadowedAP, WG marks, stonekeepers shard
07:07.49Shadowedunless you were counting both WG ones as one
07:07.50ShefkiLast two give the same item.
07:07.54ShefkiSame exact item id.
07:07.57ShefkiJust different currency.
07:08.39ShefkiWhich surprised me since inthe past they couldn't do that.
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07:17.42orionshockShadowed, asmodai i have SexyCooldown and BT4, and im playing on a shammy. i do not have problems switching totems and then dropping the new one in combat
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07:45.26orionshockhttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dungeonspeedrunner.aspx#643519
07:45.28orionshock...?
07:48.38quiescenso.O
07:49.55quiescensso what are you!
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08:23.24sb|workahm so... does anyone know about the shadowmourne quest items? (rotface, festergut) is it 1 item / raid (like val'any shard) or for every player with that quest? (well its a "quest item" *shrug*)
08:25.19Shefkisb|work: Good question.
08:25.20theoddone33good question
08:25.53theoddone33hopefully we'll know on tuesday
08:26.08ShefkiWe will.
08:27.27Repo10grid2: 03jerry * r289 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Ticket 56
08:31.16asmodaiorionshock: mmm
08:32.02sb|workhmm okay :o
08:32.44sb|work(the other question is if it is a 100% drop, because there are also those 40, 50, .. dont know shards to be collected later
08:32.59sb|workso would make sense to have those things to be 100% *shrug* but yea, we will see ;)
08:34.19sb|workbut the first few quests lead to the epic axe i think, so no reason to make it that random (or actually force you to decide who gets epic axe/legendary later)
08:35.27sb|workhonestly, i don't want to decide this week who will get the legendary :p
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08:36.32asmodaiorionshock: That strange, wonder what's up then.
08:36.49asmodaiorionshock: bt4 also threw quite a high number of recurring taints
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08:43.43sb|workbah, i wanna go home already.. :p
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08:48.46evlsb|work: it's higher dropchance in heroic 25
08:50.06sb|workwhat are you talking about? :o
08:50.25sb|work"shards" or festergut/rotface quest item (first quest in that line i think, that will lead you to epic axe)
08:51.05Shefkisb|work: I heard it's a higher drop chance if you do ICC as opposed to sitting in Dalaran.
08:51.56Wobinlies
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08:52.37ShefkiWobin: Ok you caught me.  GC dressed up as a fairy hands you one in Dalarn.
08:54.29sb|work:/
08:55.05digmouseyou shake hands with GC, you DC
08:55.28WobinHe promised me a PONY
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09:02.37asmodaiwobin!
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09:03.26Wobinasmodai!
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09:06.20sb|worki already have a pony! :o
09:11.05ShefkiWobin: He gave you a pony...
09:11.08ShefkiI have mine.
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09:15.31orionshockasmodai: i'd grep your addon folder for SetMultiCastSpell and see what turns up
09:23.16Arrowmasternothing will be found
09:23.24Arrowmasterits the blizzard code calling it that is tainted
09:24.42Arrowmasterlike i said, a 'taintlog 2' is required to get any useful information from the taintlog, just 'taintlog 1' gives you what part of the blizzard code is tainted and not what tainted it
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10:02.10asmodaiArrowmaster: I do have a taintlog 2, but at home
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10:05.24asmodaiI could at least repeat it in every fight, so that's good. I mean, less than 100% reproducibility would suck
10:06.07ShefkiIn Soviet Russia, bugs reproduce you.
10:09.21sb|workwhats wrong with soviet russia? :o
10:09.45WobinIn Soviet Russia, nothing wrongs -you-
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10:15.59asmodaiheh
10:16.20asmodaiWhitetooth: Taiwan? Never knew you are/were Taiwanese or living there :)
10:16.37Whitetoothasmodai: yeah I'm Taiwanese :)
10:17.09asmodaiWhitetooth: Hah, cool. Got a Taiwanese friend visiting me in Spring as it stands now.
10:17.19asmodaiStill need to visit there sometime soon as well.
10:17.47Whitetoothcool, its really hot here in the summer
10:18.12asmodaiHahaha, must be quite similar to Hong Kong or most of Japan I guess
10:18.38asmodaiHigh humidity?
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10:18.50Whitetoothvery high
10:19.16Whitetoothit rains almost everyday
10:20.20Whitetooththe subtropical rain forests and the beaches are the best tho
10:23.15orionshockhow does one understand ElitestGroup's interface?
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10:23.58asmodaiWhitetooth: yeah, one of the reasons I avoided Japan in summer.
10:25.22Whitetoothasmodai: at least japan gets to play with some snow, we never see any snow ever
10:25.58Wobin<PROTECTED>
10:26.10Wobin(or more specifically, Beijing...)
10:26.33asmodaiWhitetooth: Yeah, May and Nina were quite surprised at my photos of snow here.
10:26.41asmodai(two of my Taiwanese friends)
10:27.11WhitetoothI used to live in Iowa when I was a kid, I loved the winter
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10:32.23Fiskerit's cold Wobin
10:32.25FiskerBRRRRRRRRRRRR
10:33.13asmodaiWhitetooth: But you went back to Taiwan?
10:33.24asmodaiWhitetooth: Must be quite the change I reckon.
10:33.59Whitetoothyeah it was preety hard at first, language problems...etc
10:34.39Whitetoothbut its been almost 20 years in Taiwan already
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10:36.02asmodaiStill like how Taiwanese write 愛 with a proper 心 in the middle, as opposed to simplified.
10:36.46Repo10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 04v0.3-beta * bb0cee8 /: [new tag] add more options, revamp stuff
10:37.02Whitetoothyeah the Chinese fucked up their characters preety bad
10:37.22WhitetoothI can't read any of it
10:37.40BrunersFisker: indeed it's cold!
10:39.32asmodaiWhitetooth: Some simplifications make sense, but some shouldn't have changed since they lose context. I mean, you also have 門 with 心 in it, meaning something like smothering, which you can imply via the pictorial association. Granted, that doesn't apply to all kanji/hanzi.
10:43.00Whitetoothasmodai: yes, simplification makes sense in an engineering way, but the characters have been in use for over 2000 year
10:46.49Wobinhehe
10:46.51Wobin'love'
10:46.58Wobin(HEARTLESS LOVE)
10:48.14Wobinhm, I need a better looking font that can render chinese
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10:49.42sb|worki need a better brain that can render chinese :o
10:49.56Wobinof course, one that doesn't crash the irc would be good too
10:50.08Wobinhm, this one actually has brushstrokes
10:50.53WobinAh, GuLim Che
10:50.58Wobinthat's kinda readable
10:53.28sb|workhm, in soviet russia, meiryo UI 10 goes with you
10:53.31sb|workha! got it now... :p
10:57.39sb|work@describe uprank
10:57.41Reposb|work: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/uprank/. UpRank. Update spells that are not max rank
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10:59.03Fiskeru prank sb|work
10:59.07olafskijust checking.. if I include the Ace libraries in my addon but they are already loaded by another addon, they won't take up memory twice right?
10:59.35nevcairielyes
10:59.59olafskiI got a "complaint" about my addon after adding ace, that it suddenly takes up over 1MB of memory
11:00.13olafskiwhen I monitor the addon, it's not even on the list, but I guess that's because Ace is listed separetly
11:00.19olafskiseparately*
11:01.09olafskithis guy apparently found it so important that he switched back to an old version to get rid of ace
11:02.12Wobinwhich Ace library are you using?
11:02.16Wobincause 1MB?
11:02.57olafskiaceaddon, aceconfig, aceconsole, acedb, acedboptions, aceevent, acegui
11:03.03nevcairielyou should just ignore those people
11:03.08olafskiand then callbackhandler and libstub, not sure if those are part of the ace framework
11:03.23olafskiwell, his comment on my addon page makes the addon look bad :<
11:03.57nevcairielso delete it =P
11:03.58olafskibbl :<
11:04.41olafskithat seems kinda harsh btw.. maybe he'll keep spamming then
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11:08.16orionshockusers talking about Lib Mem usage are like idiot drivers talking about adv car mechanic work.. it's just the sort of thing you ignore till they go away, or get a 2x4 to assist the problem in going away.
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11:11.41yoshimodoes the create addonpack option on curse work for anyone of you? if i proceed to tagging, curse breaks
11:12.55asmodaiWobin: gulim is a korean font though.
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11:13.00asmodaiWobin: Might not get full coverage.
11:13.19asmodaiWobin: SimSum or Meiryo might be a bit better, depending if you lean more towards Chinese or Japanese.
11:14.04Wobinasmodai, my retention of chinese is not high enough that I need full coverage =)
11:14.07asmodainevcairiel: btw, you aware of this often recurring taint bt4 throws out? Furthermore, first idea seems to point out SexyMap as culprit, however, someone else here tried it without issues. Need a full taintlog 2 tonight to see what's going on.
11:14.13asmodaiWobin: *grin*
11:14.26WobinMeryo is a nice font to read though, in comparison
11:15.11asmodaiIt's been designed from the ground up to have Japanese and latin characters fit good together.
11:15.21asmodaiSomething that always looked mismatched in many other asian fonts
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11:29.05onaforeignshoreMyrroddin: It's 11:29am here
11:29.23Myrroddinit is 4:29 am here
11:29.39Myrroddinand i *just* got the keybindings to work about 3 mins ago
11:30.14SunTsu~ugt
11:30.15purlugt is, like, Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
11:30.45onaforeignshorelol SunTsu
11:33.27Fisker~uft
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11:37.48Repothey do not bind for non-ressers, as intended
11:37.49Reporemoved some duplicate code
11:37.50RepoTESTERS: DELETE YOUR SVs OR RESET PROFILE TO DEFAULT
11:39.20asmodainevcairiel: and btw, those memory prices went wild for KHX1600C8D3T1K2/4GX
11:46.57nevcairielasmodai: wild up?
11:46.57nevcairielhm pretty much the same here
11:46.57nevcairielabout ~100 for the T1 and 110 for the other
11:51.19asmodainevcairiel: yea, up
11:51.31asmodaisaid it was EUR 90-100, right?
11:51.39asmodaithey're almost all now around the EUR 140 range
11:51.54asmodainevcairiel: and saw my earlier note about tainting?
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12:32.01nevcairielasmodai: i'm at work, i miss half of the stuff :P
12:37.50Megalonhe's a working one
12:38.01Megalonsomeone get a wooden peg and the silver bullets!
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12:43.20asmodainevcairiel: so am I, but I has scrollback buffers :P
12:44.37nevcairielbut im on a phone!
12:45.01asmodaiYou never said that!
12:45.23nevcairielcompany network is quite restricted
12:45.52sb|workso we can DoS your phone by sending you irc messages! (fisker can do that)
12:46.03asmodainevcairiel: Quick recap: yes, the totem bar (for me) taints. Pointed at SexyMap at first. But also looking at the log it shows bt4 having often recurring taints, always the same it seemed.
12:46.03sb|workor even hack your phone! :p
12:46.27asmodainevcairiel: Need to reset the log and taintlog 2 it again tonight and see what happens.
12:46.29nevcairielthe irc is proxied until it reaches my phone
12:46.31sb|workasmodai: i don't have taint issues with sexymap + BT4
12:46.38mitch0nev: can't you tunnel out?
12:46.57asmodaiWait
12:47.01asmodais/SexyMap/SexyCooldown
12:47.03sb|workmitch0: i guess they won't like that if they restrict the network like that ;p
12:47.19nevcairielI could probably setup some http tunnel of sorts
12:47.23nevcairielbut i dont really care
12:47.23asmodai1/4 07:40:55.860  An action was blocked in combat because of taint from SexyCooldown - SetMultiCastSpell()
12:47.29nevcairielmy phone is good enough for some chatting
12:47.35nevcairiel<3 motorola milestone
12:47.38mitch0sb: they don't need to know about it :)
12:47.39asmodai1/4 07:40:55.860 Interface\FrameXML\MultiCastActionBarFrame.lua:530 MultiCastFlyoutButton_OnClick()
12:47.45asmodai1/4 07:40:55.860      MultiCastFlyoutButton3:OnClick()
12:48.04nevcairielas others said, need a log 2 until we can determine the cause of the taint
12:48.10sb|workmitch0: proxy log will tell + lots of traffic on ssl proxy :p
12:48.19mitch0sb: not lots
12:48.20asmodaiI guess the fastest way is to disable SexyCooldown and repeat my totem thing and see if it still fails?
12:48.21nevcairielcant use an ordinary ssl connect proxy
12:48.34nevcairielthey have a smart firewall that analyses ssl traffic
12:48.39nevcairielonly allows pure http requests
12:49.03nevcairielthere are tunnels that operate over pure http
12:49.05nevcairielbut i cba
12:49.15nevcairielHSDPA is fast enough here :d
12:49.36asmodainevcairiel: and yes, will do the taint 2 tonight, which I did this morning as well, but after the fact IIRC, but showed a shitload of repeating bt4 taints though.
12:49.54nevcairielbt4 taints alot of stuff to do its magic
12:49.57nevcairielnothing breaking, though
12:50.05asmodaiok, so expected behaviour?
12:50.27nevcairielit works for others, so some other addon must be doing it
12:50.58yoshimomhm  im not experienced in firewalls, but if the ssl connection is crypted, what can the firewall do against that?
12:51.01asmodaiAye, will check.
12:51.10nevcairielyoshimo: uncrypt it
12:51.22nevcairielssl man-in-the-middle firewalls are a bitch
12:51.47nevcairielthey send you their own cert, decrypt, analyse, encrypt with the servers cert and send to the internet
12:51.52yoshimomhm, didnt man in the middle only work if the user fails and accepts wrong certs?
12:51.59nevcairielwell yes
12:52.02nevcairielbut what choice do i have
12:52.06nevcairielcant avoid it :P
12:52.18nevcairielit does show you a untrusted cert
12:52.21nevcairielon ssl connections
12:53.37nevcairielI should just hook up my workstation to my phone via usb tethering
12:53.55nevcairielwonder if that would screw with my AD authenticaten, ha
12:54.05nevcairiels/caten/cation/
12:55.54asmodaiI assume /console taintlog 0 turns it off again? I mean, I do taintlog 2, do my thing, then 0 to only have that part captured?  (BEfore I wind up with too much info to sift through)
12:56.07nevcairielyes
12:56.20nevcairielbe aware that it doesnt blindly append the log
12:56.28nevcairiela restart of the client will overwrite it, afaik
12:56.34nevcairielunless its off, of course
12:57.03asmodaiThat's ok
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12:58.26KriLL3oh man, my brother uses xUF...
12:58.42nevcairielwtf is xUF
12:59.04KriLL3x-perl unit frames, dunno if it has another acronym/shorthand
12:59.19sb|workyea, x-perl :p
12:59.24KriLL3ah
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12:59.36KriLL3well it's horrible
13:00.25KriLL3who thought making the layout a bunch of gray/brown squares was a good idea?
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13:04.01asmodaiKriLL3: no one ;)
13:04.10asmodaiNo wait, that's not quite true.
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13:06.22KriLL3my brother is a bit weird, he uses very few addons and the few he does use are old/bad etc, I can't get him to use actioneer for one instead of manually checking prices, and he always runs around with bags full of random junk, meat trade goods, and random quest items, he never has more than 10 free slots in his bags, and he has nothing on the bank
13:06.49asmodaiHeh, all my bank slots are filled :(
13:07.01asmodaiNeed to check if the bags I use there are the biggest available
13:07.10KriLL3my OCD forces me to keep my 22 slot bag inventory at least half empty
13:07.18asmodaiEven use some miner/jeweler bags
13:07.23KriLL3there are 24 slot bags for a bunch of money
13:07.30asmodaiHeh, as a shaman I always carry my full resto kit along
13:07.38KriLL3I'm feral =P
13:07.45KriLL3I got tanking, dps and pvp sets
13:08.02asmodaiAnd I cannot throw away any of my separate totems, even though I have ones that combine all four to one >_<
13:08.11asmodaimeaning I lose space in my bank already
13:18.49sb|workKriLL3: actioneer is evil :p
13:19.00KriLL3sb|work: perhaps, but it saves time
13:19.20sb|workyea, but its like installing 30 stupid addons not used in any other addon :o
13:19.24sb|workaddons=libs
13:19.40yoshimosb|work, why is it evil?  only because you dont need all of its functions?
13:19.50KriLL3I don't use the bulk of the features, only the improvements to the browsing and the improved addon posting thing
13:19.52sb|workyoshimo: because i have to install all that stuff :p
13:20.09KriLL3I've killed a lot of it's modules
13:20.24KriLL3but yes I recall there being an auctioneer lite in the past, can't find it now
13:20.58sb|workKriLL3: for browsing / posting (+undercut) i use auctionator
13:21.33KriLL3I'll check that one out, I do notice quite a performance drop with auctioneer, why isn't it LOD?
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13:22.31yoshimois there an addon which lets me move the statisticframe in bgs?
13:23.28sb|workBeanCounter, Enchantrix, Enchantrix-Barker, Informant, SlideBar, Stubby, Babylonian, DebugLib, Configator, LibExtraTip, TipHelper <-- yoshimo - thats my problem with auctioneer :p
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13:24.50yoshimosb|work , you could also have them as one big addon , and embedded ;)
13:26.56KriLL3hmm, blizzard have only made instance maps for the LK instances, nothing, zip, nada in TBC/Vanilla
13:27.08KriLL3lazy bastards
13:27.24yoshimoKriLL3, cataclysm should fix that for classic wow ;)
13:27.30asmodairofl
13:27.57KriLL3yoshimo: a bit weird imo that they didn't think to include the boss locations, though yssbossloot fixes that
13:28.24asmodaiI wonder if Yssaril would be open to add more loot tables.
13:28.41yoshimowhat do you mean with "more loot tables"?
13:28.43asmodaiI still keep AtlasLoot around for the old stuff as well as the argent tournament and such things.
13:28.48KriLL3also the maps are handled weirdly, can't put handynotes on em
13:28.50asmodaiUnless I missed something
13:29.02yoshimodivide them into 10/25 normal/hm?
13:29.05KriLL3I use atlasloot as my loot browser, don't use atlas anymore though
13:29.22KriLL3only use yssbossloot for boss locations/names =P
13:29.38KriLL3I use it as a glorified handynotes module
13:29.41asmodailol
13:30.44KriLL3btw spent some time in LBRS and BRD yesterday for darkmoon faire frog pet and the spider and worg pets, man blizzard liked to make confusing instances
13:31.04nevcairielyou didnt know those instances before?
13:31.05KriLL3I spent a lot of time down there in vanilla, and I still got lost
13:31.11KriLL3I did, but it's ages ago
13:31.34Megalonbrd is the most awesome instance
13:31.38Megalonmore bosses than any raid
13:31.40yoshimoblackrock is ok, maraudon and wailing caverns i think are more evil ;)
13:31.42KriLL3karazhan takes the cake though
13:32.00asmodaidropped out around level 35 my first time around back in 1.8 or so
13:32.18KriLL3kara is horribly complicated
13:32.28asmodaiYeah, got lost in Kara :S
13:32.35nevcairielkara isnt so bad
13:32.36KriLL3BRD is also, with it's key, the grim guzzler, and all other silly multi route stuff
13:32.48nevcairielit has one major route you follow
13:32.58KriLL3flow chart of BRD: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/7/7e/BRDFlowchartMap.jpg tell he that isn't complicated
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13:33.13KriLL3nevcairiel: well there are a bunch of shortcuts, optional bosses etc
13:33.30asmodaiKriLL3: wtf, an instance requiring a flowchart :|
13:33.44KriLL3asmodai: you don't remember BRD?
13:33.46nevcairielit doesnt require it tbh :P
13:34.01KriLL3oh and to get the quest for the key you need to be DEAD outside the instance and talk with an NPC there
13:34.15KriLL3twice
13:34.23asmodaiKriLL3: Never done it
13:34.28KriLL3heh
13:34.43asmodaiI mean, strolled through for brewfest or something else
13:34.44KriLL3I used my "naked" equipment set and took a swim in the lava to get the quest...
13:34.45asmodaibut no
13:34.51pentium166The best part about that is that you're dead dead and not pretending to be dead like the one in tanaris
13:35.03pentium166But the guy doesn't even care that you're dead
13:35.08KriLL3the lava hits you for 600 dmg... took a while to die, and to remove motw also
13:35.31asmodaiNice how Ragefire Chasm is in the dungeon finder btw as Alliance  :)
13:35.35KriLL3pentium166: yeah a bit weird that he asks for help from a dead guy
13:36.01asmodaiI never understood the logic of that
13:36.50KriLL3main issue with a lot of those complicated vanilla instances is that there isn't a clear route to follow, you have to figure it out for yourself and when you do hit a locked door you can't open it's up to you to figure out how to get it open, it's a bit like Zelda...
13:37.30KriLL3that key quest for instance, is it referenced anywhere?
13:37.40KriLL3or do you have to spot the NPC while corpse running?
13:37.52asmodaiI like their more recent designs, there's a flow you follow
13:37.58KriLL3yeah
13:38.01asmodaiand the end boss generally brings you quite easily back to the entrance
13:38.07KriLL3yes
13:38.19KriLL3when you finish BRD by killing the last boss you're stuck there
13:38.30KriLL3and back then where wasn't mage portals (I think)
13:38.35KriLL3HS is the only quick way out
13:38.42asmodaiughn
13:38.46yoshimoor suicide ;)
13:38.51KriLL3true
13:38.53asmodaiWhich were on a 1 hour cooldown too :)
13:39.01KriLL3though level 50 mobs take ages to kill me even naked =P
13:39.06pentium166I managed to get stuck behind the "naxxramas" portal gate in Stratholme once
13:39.18pentium166with my hearthstone down
13:39.29KriLL3moonglade teleport is a life saver
13:39.33KriLL3no cooldown
13:39.46KriLL3you end up in moonglade, like 6mins flight from TB, but still
13:39.51Megalonwell
13:39.55MegalonLyceum
13:39.59Megalonthe hardest encounter
13:40.04Megalonin all of vanilla wow :P
13:40.21pentium166I played for like a year and a half before I ever did the lyceum or emperor
13:40.25Megalonbrd is just awesome
13:40.26KriLL3you mean the zillion mobs, torch bearers and 2 fires you had to light?
13:40.32Megalonyes
13:40.37pentium166Got an Ironfoe for my rogue the first time I killed him though
13:40.52KriLL3was a bit less intimidating as level 80 with swipe =P
13:41.12KriLL3but I had to actually check wowhead to figure out how to get past that room
13:41.25Megalon:D
13:41.35KriLL3I checked for someone with a torch, but the flame keepers don't wield em, they just drop em
13:42.04Megalonand the whole quest
13:42.08Megalonto free the princess
13:42.16KriLL3main aspect of that instance that confused me is that half of it is completely inaccessible without the key
13:42.20Megalonand after the quest, you can go there again and kill her
13:42.22KriLL3even if it's just a couple of meters away
13:42.26Megalonand she then has her own loot tabl
13:42.27Megalone
13:42.33KriLL3horde doesn't have that quest I think
13:42.50KriLL3though she was friendly once I killed the boss
13:42.53Megalonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=4004
13:43.08KriLL3hmm she didn't offer it
13:43.24yoshimomaybe your missing a prequest?
13:43.32Megalonit starts in kargath
13:43.32KriLL3very possible
13:43.37KriLL3ah yes
13:43.53Megalonyou have to go to the cell blocks
13:44.03Megalonfree a guy, kill a few mobs, orgrimmar and back
13:44.15KriLL3isn't it a human you free there? remember doing that as alliance
13:44.19Megalonbrd was the one instance
13:44.24Megalonif you were there the 5th time
13:44.29Megalonyou still had quests in it :D
13:44.39Megalonit's an orc as horde
13:44.53KriLL3it's cool and all, but it's horribly confusing and sprawling, they should have split it into multiple instances
13:45.03Megalonand then you go 'ask' a dwarf
13:45.24KriLL3also a bit weird that you can gain rep with the dark irons in there
13:45.29MegalonI so want that instance on heroic
13:45.29KriLL3and some of then are neutral
13:45.31Megalonwith all the bosses
13:45.35Megalonand everything
13:45.36KriLL3heh
13:45.38yoshimoi  have done loremaster recently and still, brd isnt completely done ;)
13:46.04KriLL3you don't earn towards loremaster in instances
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13:46.46KriLL3they could re-do it in segments, would be cool
13:47.04yoshimolike halls of reflections, pit of saron and forge of souls?
13:47.09KriLL3imagine scarlet monastery as one instance... that's why I prefer split instances
13:47.17KriLL3yoshimo: yes
13:47.22KriLL3or a bunch of older ones
13:47.37KriLL3also it shouldn't have like 5 different routes
13:47.48pentium166it's a city! yes it should!
13:48.06KriLL3well if it does have more than one route... make it clearer as to which goes were
13:48.13KriLL3street signs perhaps?
13:48.14pentium166back in my day etc.
13:48.16KriLL3a guide?
13:48.18yoshimothere is only one route through brd krill ;)  open all doors, jump down in the lava, and swim to the exit ;)
13:48.36KriLL3yoshimo: that misses a lot of quests and bosses though
13:49.08yoshimoyes, indeed, but most of the time people only need the mc attunement, and therefore its the fastest rout
13:49.09yoshimoe
13:49.13nevcairielthere is one route that does all of brd in one run
13:49.25nevcairielbut unless you leave the instance in between, you cant do all quests in it
13:49.26KriLL3true, though isn't MC attunement optional now?
13:49.43yoshimoim not sure, but the bloodelf only ports you if you did the quest  i think
13:49.50Megalonhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npcs&filter=cr=6:32;crs=1584:1;crv=0:0#0+2+1
13:49.51KriLL3nevcairiel: that route doubles back on itself and is fairly long though right? =P
13:50.02Megalon41 bosses in one instance
13:50.14yoshimoi still think street signs in wailing caverns would be great ;)
13:50.24KriLL3heh
13:50.27nevcairielto be fair, some of thoses bosses are in one encounter
13:50.32nevcairiellike the council of 7 or what it was called
13:50.37nevcairieland the arena can have different bosses
13:50.45KriLL3I wonder how cata will change the old instances, a lot of them aren't really relevant after the changes
13:50.58nevcairieland the random dark keeper in the vault
13:50.58KriLL3also the grim guzzler has a lot of those NPCs
13:51.13Megalonthat's more bosses than wotlk before IC :D
13:51.15KriLL3and they're not really bosses
13:51.52yoshimogrim guzzler is only relevant if you want  to do the seasonal event there ;)
13:51.58nevcairielthere is about 20 boss encounters in brd
13:52.01nevcairielmore or less
13:52.17KriLL3LBRS is even more confusing in it's way, I only know how to get through it by jumping at certain places, not even sure if you can do it without knowing that
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13:52.19Megalon35 without the key keepers
13:52.19Repofixed Xenobios' name in localization. my apologies!
13:52.34nevcairielKriLL3: you can do lbrs just fine
13:52.38Megalon29 with council
13:53.01nevcairielyou just have to double back at the ogres
13:53.05KriLL3yoshimo: or if you need a mug of dark iron ale for the jubling pet =P
13:53.09nevcairieland follow the road down to the trolls
13:53.18pentium166they should have made BRM, BRS, and BRD one instance imo
13:53.24KriLL3I thought you had to jump down to get to the trolls and to the bottom floor?
13:53.26pentium166also blackwing lair
13:53.34nevcairielnah, there is a stairway
13:53.43KriLL3heh, I've never seen it =P
13:54.00nevcairielhow did you get back out again?
13:54.01KriLL3I remember doing stealth runs in there back in the day
13:54.21KriLL3HS, didn't think there was a way to actually get out from the last boss' room
13:54.28nevcairielhah
13:54.33nevcairielnah you can get out just fine
13:54.48KriLL3though it's just as far going back right? =P
13:54.50sb|workMyrroddin: so smartres2 now actually works? :P (works as in you can use keybindings to auto-res)
13:54.51KriLL3lovely design
13:55.06nevcairielof course, you usually dont run out of an instance anyway
13:55.12nevcairielthe quick exit was only added in TBC
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13:55.17nevcairielclassic instances dont usually have it
13:55.32KriLL3I know, you were meant to HS I guess
13:55.33sb|workBFD had it
13:55.41Myrroddinsb|work yes indeed
13:55.41sb|workbut its alliance only now :o
13:56.25Myrroddinthe collision bars don't change to red (or user pref) yet. they stay green. and the time counts UP, not down, but other than that, it works
13:56.34KriLL3I'm glad blizzard have stopped making hugely complicated instances, though I wish they'd stop making black morass type portal encounters
13:56.35pentium166one thing that was awesome about BRS is the parts in upper where you could fall into lower
13:57.04KriLL3black portal, VH, CoS is enough
13:57.04nevcairielhehe yeah
13:57.09pentium166or out of the instance entirely
13:57.12Myrroddini really want people to test the auto and manual res keys and let me know, especially with the auto, if it is picking targets properly
13:57.28sb|workKriLL3: HoR!? :p
13:57.34KriLL3ah right sorry
13:57.46KriLL3though that's an even more diabolical variety
13:58.04KriLL3I wonder if blizz balanced it with the LoS corner method in mind, if they didn't they're fucking evil
13:58.04nevcairielits really two instances in one
13:58.04nevcairielthere is no way to run both without completly doubling back
13:58.04nevcairielkinda weird
13:58.26nevcairielits not that hard really
13:58.28nevcairieljust CC some
13:58.36KriLL3DPS doesn't CC anymore
13:58.42nevcairielmaybe they should
13:58.45KriLL3and they're undead, less CC
13:59.00nevcairielcan still shackle, ice trap, or even root the melees
13:59.01KriLL3heh gl getting a dmg meter obsessed DPS player to CC anything
13:59.19KriLL3doesn't palas have some UD CC also?
13:59.24sb|workfear
13:59.40Myrroddinsb|work are you willing to test?
13:59.51KriLL3I usually do HoR with my brother's hunter, he ice traps the hunters and misdirects the mages, makes thinks a lot easier
13:59.58sb|workMyrroddin: later, i'm at work :p
14:00.11MyrroddinLOL well, i need sleep, then i work
14:00.16KriLL3runs where no one CCs is very different
14:00.30nevcairieljust use the LoS then, no CC required
14:00.31krkawhat? they still make complicated dungeons like nexus, i always get lost there :(
14:00.31Myrroddinand because of that, i can't raid during the week, unless i pug
14:00.35KriLL3and paladin healers in there are fail
14:00.39nevcairielnexus is so easy
14:00.46nevcairieljust start on the left and follow the roads
14:00.55nevcairieli like getting nexus in random dugeon
14:01.00nevcairielfast 5 badges
14:01.02KriLL3nevcairiel: well most LoS at first but then run out, making it mostly useless, or they go to different corners etc
14:01.21KriLL3nexus is good though imo boring, Gundrak is my favorite
14:02.10KriLL3and most players don't take HoR seriously "durr it's an HC, how hard can it be?" there is reason why it drops 232 iLVL gear...
14:02.45Xinhuannevcairiel, isn't it 7 badges
14:02.51KriLL3healer just throws hots on me, then he gets stunned twice in a row by a marauder and 2x footmen zerk on me...
14:03.06KriLL3no chance in hell
14:04.33KriLL3and dps doesn't CC anything, and don't kill the damn rogue first even though he got a skull mark
14:04.49nevcairielXinhuan: 5+extras
14:04.56KriLL3and thinks it's just dandy that the priest heals their target over and over
14:05.00Xinhuanthat still makes it 7 :)
14:05.44KriLL3I don't need anything bought by triumph anymore, so I get 2x ice once a day, don't run any more HCs than that
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14:06.26KriLL3I might if there was some scheme to downgrade 1 triumph to 2 of a much lower for hairlooms/mammoth etc but 1:1 sucks
14:06.43KriLL3don't feel like farming 200 triumph marks for a mount...
14:06.50Xinhuan10 triumphs = 100g on my server KriLL3 :P
14:06.57KriLL3?
14:07.03Xinhuanepic gems
14:07.08KriLL3ah
14:07.23Xinhuanso doing 2 heroics gives you at least 100g
14:07.24KriLL3I'm honor capped, so I buy a pile of gems every now and then
14:07.32FiskerBlizzard might as well go sell emblems
14:07.33Fisker:D
14:07.38Xinhuanwhich is pretty decent
14:07.45Xinhuanand can usually be done under an hour
14:07.46KriLL3I got like 20 epic gems, can't get any of them sold, since everyone else got a stack of em
14:08.04KriLL3same with enchanting mats, everyone got a ton
14:08.20KriLL3since we disenchant a metric ton of loot every day
14:08.22Xinhuanenchanting mats are still expensive
14:08.26KriLL3and there are no new enchants
14:08.26Xinhuannot sure why
14:08.50Xinhuaninfinite dust ~3g, dream shards ~10g and abyss about 30g on my server
14:09.03KriLL3prices on my server have crashed
14:09.14KriLL3but they're still not getting sold =P
14:09.28Xinhuanit must mean your server doesn't have many raiding guilds
14:09.40KriLL3the LFD tool has really had an impact on the economy
14:09.48KriLL3it does
14:09.54asmodaihey there Xinhuan
14:09.55Xinhuanthere's like 15 on my server on alliance alone
14:10.02Xinhuanand another 20 on horde
14:10.13sb|workraiding or "raiding"?
14:10.15Xinhuanby raiding, i mean guilds that try hard modes
14:10.18sb|workokay
14:10.19sb|work:p
14:10.29Xinhuanand at least 20 pug raid groups form too
14:10.30XinhuanGKPs
14:10.37Repo10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r56 / (3 files in 1 directory): pushing new localizations and updates
14:10.39KriLL3Xinhuan: well the problem is that no one needs enchanting mats, since everyone already got a bank full
14:10.39Repogiving credit to new translator
14:11.00nevcairielrandom pugs produce way too many enchant mats
14:11.07nevcairielespecially with the enchant roll button
14:11.09KriLL3yeah
14:11.28KriLL3I don't bother with that button on items that don't produce abyss anymore
14:11.35KriLL3I just press greed and sell at a vendor, less hassle
14:12.37Xinhuanright now there's a larger supply only because everyone's doing the heroic daily for the frost badges
14:12.49Xinhuanonce you start swimming in frost badges, nobody will do the daily anymore
14:13.00KriLL3man I wish the target dummies hit back for no dmg or something like that, hard to test dps in bearform with no rage...
14:13.05onaforeignshoreI don't have that many mats, cause I'm enchanting gear the whole tiem
14:13.05nevcairielthat will be a while, still
14:13.14Xinhuanits like voa, nobody even does it anymore
14:13.17Xinhuanuntil new season
14:13.22Myrroddingood night everybody. see you on the flip side
14:13.25KriLL3errm you need like 200 frost emblems to get all the gear
14:13.30onaforeignshorenight Myrroddin
14:13.34KriLL3no one is getting that in ages
14:13.39Xinhuani already have 142 KriLL3
14:13.46Xinhuanand tomorrow new wing
14:13.50Xinhuanthat's an additional 16 more per wing
14:13.52KriLL3I'm fairly certain that's an impossibility
14:13.58Xinhuanits possible KriLL3
14:14.20Xinhuan14 per week from heroic daily, 8 from ICC10, 8 from ICC25, 5 from weekly raid quest = 35 a week
14:14.31Xinhuanand add 6 more from the initial ICC5 chain
14:14.39KriLL3hmm
14:14.41Xinhuanthat's 4 weeks in total for a total of 146
14:14.54Xinhuani missed a day or 2 of dailies, so i only have 142
14:14.59asmodaidid that this past week, random heroic (ToC) plus ICC5 got me like 5-6 pieces of gear XD
14:15.03KriLL3I don't do ICC so
14:15.16asmodaifrom drops alone I mean
14:15.20Xinhuanonce 2nd wing in ICC opens, there's another 16 per week
14:15.25Xinhuanfor a total of 51 per week
14:15.32Xinhuanyou'll be SWIMMING in frost badges in 2 months
14:15.36Xinhuani have over 700 triumphs
14:15.40KriLL3if you're a raider yes
14:15.42Xinhuanand about 600 conquest
14:15.44asmodai2nd wing opens tonight I think
14:15.56asmodaior otherwise tomorrow
14:15.58KriLL3the bulk of people out there aren't going to be raiding ICC
14:16.17Xinhuanthat's wrong, i said over 20 pug 25 raid groups form every week on my server
14:16.21Megalonit's just that now the demand is high
14:16.30Megalonbecause all the gear are probably upgrades
14:16.31Xinhuanyes, the pugs are THAT good on my server
14:16.43sb|workXinhuan: its only 14 more / week
14:16.47KriLL3Xinhuan: errm, that's still a tiny minority of the players
14:16.47sb|work3 bosses, not 4
14:16.54Megalonand if you happen to be a lucky one
14:17.00Xinhuanok
14:17.01Megalonwhere your weekly also resets on saturday
14:17.03sb|workerrr
14:17.05Megalon+5 right there
14:17.05sb|work12 more then :p
14:17.10Xinhuanso 47 per week then
14:17.12sb|workyep
14:17.27KriLL3the weekly raid quest seems bugged, been flame leviathan 2 weeks in a row and I've done it 3 times
14:17.27Xinhuaneven then you'll have all the gear you want in a month
14:17.56KriLL3it's a bit like WG, quests reset in some weird way halfway through the supposed timer and you can do em again
14:18.24Megalonbadges should be boa ;O
14:18.30sb|workno
14:18.44Xinhuani'm already considering how i can crash teh gem market with over 1500 emblems ;p
14:18.53Xinhuanbut then again 150 epic gems isn't a lot
14:19.05KriLL3Xinhuan: even if you can get em sold
14:19.21KriLL3most people are also sitting on a stack of em
14:19.41Xinhuani'll get them to sell
14:19.45KriLL3I buy em just to stop from hitting honor cap all the time
14:19.45Xinhuansince its impossible to make a loss
14:20.06KriLL3yes but what do you get for them?
14:20.16Xinhuan100g per epic gem
14:20.23Xinhuanmaybe 80g if price drops a little
14:20.25KriLL3that's optimistic
14:20.36Xinhuanno, that's pessismistic
14:20.42Xinhuanlol
14:20.52Xinhuanthey are currently like 120g
14:21.02Xinhuanthe single color ones are selling 180g easily
14:21.16Xinhuandual color gems are ~110-120
14:21.17KriLL3are you on an empty server? =P
14:21.20Xinhuanno
14:21.26Megalonsame on my server
14:21.34sb|worksame here, 180 for red gems
14:21.34Xinhuani'm on one of the most populated servers
14:21.42Xinhuanthere's actually a login queue this morning
14:21.58XinhuanBlackrock US (BG9)
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14:22.18Megalonhad an one hour queue today
14:22.23KriLL3ah well USG is about 0.5 EUG ;)
14:22.26Megalonerm yesterday
14:22.52Megalonon my eu server the gem prices are about the same ;)
14:23.23sb|workbah, enough work, going home, bbl :p
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14:23.57KriLL3cardinal ruby is 120g here, and there are like 2 pages full of them
14:24.03KriLL34 if you count cut ones
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14:24.38Fiskerdamn
14:24.39KriLL3guess that's viable currently while people gear up, but in a couple of weeks we'll still have that many gems and people won't have new gear every day
14:24.41Fiskerwtb your server
14:24.49Fiskerwell i don't know if prices have fallen recently
14:25.02FiskerBut they were around 180-220g constantly
14:25.08Fiskereven after the patch
14:25.09KriLL3heh
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14:25.25KriLL3yeah I got a stack of em before patch, wish I sold...
14:25.42KriLL3I kept em thinking I needed em for new gems in my new items... pfft
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14:25.49Xinhuanicc gear are upgrades
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14:26.01KriLL3also triumph gear is super easy to get
14:26.01onaforeignshoreanyone know of a LDB equivalent to FuQuestFu?
14:26.04KriLL3for non raiders
14:26.10Xinhuanand gem/enchant demand will go up slightly again with new season, whenever it is
14:26.35CrazyBennyonaforeignshore: tomQuest, but personally I still use QuestFu as I liek it best ;)
14:26.44KriLL3Xinhuan: I just wish blizz fixed pvp itemization already, it's idiotic that it's much faster and easier to gear up for PvP in PvE
14:27.08onaforeignshoreQuestFu does have a QuestLogObjectivesText error though
14:27.09KriLL3sure make it possible to get pvp gear in pve, but don't make it a bloody requirement and the easiest day to do it
14:27.12Xinhuani would have to contend on "easier", depending on whether your faction is any good at BGs lol
14:27.32KriLL3Xinhuan: you win BGs 50% of the time, might not feel like that but it is
14:27.34CrazyBennyonaforeignshore: dont have any errors with it, but I dont use all the modules
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14:27.40Xinhuannot on my BG
14:27.42KriLL3unless you happen to run into premades
14:27.43Xinhuanits horde dominated
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14:27.53Xinhuan20% alliance win on most
14:28.00KriLL3fought a premade 5 times in a row in WSG yesterday...
14:28.10KriLL3happyfuntimes
14:28.23KriLL3actually beat em twice
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14:28.53KriLL3I'm an imba flag running, speed boost from gear, talents and travelform and catform + dash to that and you can't stop me unless you were a head of me
14:29.20KriLL3catform + dash = 5% slower than epic mount =P
14:29.31onaforeignshoreCrazyBenny: was the Blizzard module - disabled that and no more errors :)
14:29.32KriLL3and it works indoors
14:29.57ckknighthas anyone come out with a replacement for my old Deformat library?
14:30.20KriLL3feral charge + infected wounds / natures grasp doesn't hurt either
14:30.20Xinhuandon't think so ck
14:30.31KriLL3charge the guy nearest where I want to go, and hit him once to slow him
14:30.35ckknightk, well I need it for a new project, so I'm gonna make a proper LibDeformat-3.0
14:30.48Xinhuani'm more inclined to thinkppl just manually deformat now
14:30.57ckknightXinhuan: yea, but it doesn't work in all cases
14:31.03ckknightespecially where you have more than one format
14:31.19HidKriLL3, dash and feral swiftness doesn't stack
14:31.44Xinhuanyou might also want to make it deformat some of blizzard's |4 |3 etc strings too
14:32.29Xinhuanexample
14:32.33XinhuanCALENDAR_ERROR_EVENTS_EXCEEDED = "You have reached your limit of %d |4created event:created events.";
14:32.45KriLL3Hid: perhaps not, but doesn't pvp gear speed bonus?
14:32.54HidKriLL3, It does, yeah
14:33.04ckknightXinhuan: actually, the resultant string keeps the whole |4 stuff inside it
14:33.09ckknightit just doesn't show to the client
14:33.10KriLL3fun anyway to run down mounts...
14:33.25onaforeignshorebubbles and curries... :p
14:33.32Xinhuani suppose you have a point
14:33.40KriLL3feral charge in catform to daze em, infected wounds to keep em slow
14:33.40ckknightonaforeignshore: yea, the old code is pretty poorly documented
14:33.45ckknightwhat I'll come up with will be better
14:33.48ckknightand faster!
14:33.53KriLL3most people think that staying on their mount will save em from the evil kitten, but nope =P
14:33.58Xinhuanwhat new project btw?
14:34.05Xinhuanfubar4?
14:34.21ckknightno, something for a secret project at Curse
14:34.25onaforeignshoremethinks he's lost interest in bars
14:34.39Xinhuanin lua? intriguing
14:34.48KriLL3Xinhuan: I very much doubt fubar has a future, unless it adopts LDB
14:35.18Fiskersomeone should take a gun
14:35.23FiskerLoad a bullet in a magazine
14:35.24onaforeignshoreme wants a good frames in lua tutorial...
14:35.27ckknightXinhuan: yea, an addon for a top-secret project
14:35.27Megalonhm, a quick taint question
14:35.28ckknight:P
14:35.29Fiskerinsert the magazine into the gun
14:35.32MegalonInterface\FrameXML\LFRFrame.lua:389
14:35.33Fiskerpoint at fubar's head
14:35.34Megalonhttp://paste.wowace.com/1591/
14:35.36Fiskerand pull the trigger
14:35.44KriLL3Fisker: that goes for a lot of old addons
14:35.50KriLL3my brother uses xperl
14:35.51XinhuanArrowmaster rescues it every patch :P
14:35.51KriLL3...
14:36.06Megalontaintlog tells me that the "SearchLFGLeave();" line should be the culprit
14:37.16Fiskerbtw the top secret project is ready next week right ckknight ?
14:37.20Fisker@project blessed
14:37.21RepoFisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. Your project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use.. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 13 hours ago
14:37.25ckknightno, Fisker
14:37.46Fiskergot my hopes up there
14:38.14Fiskeroh my Antiarc
14:38.20Fiskerlowercase b
14:38.22Fiskerthat's not good!
14:38.56onaforeignshorewhat's with all the ; in that code? I thought you should use ; unless in very specific circumstances?
14:39.16onaforeignshores/should/shouldn't/
14:39.43KriLL3is there an addon solution to my buff macro issue? one of my specs has 1 hour thorns, one doesn't, I buff myself and other with a cast sequence macro with thorns first, but if I'm in the spec that doesn't make it longer it fails, and doesn't refresh MoTW either
14:40.00KriLL3reversing the macro just gives the same issue more often
14:40.02Xinhuanthe usage of ; is ignored by the lua interpreter, so in general, one only uses it for readability purposes
14:40.48Xinhuanits not wrong to use them, its just unnecessary, and makes your file a few hundred bytes larger
14:41.18krkano, ; is not ignored
14:41.30Xinhuanwell i dont' really mean its ignored, just that from a programmer view, you can think of it that way
14:41.43krkanot really
14:41.57krkaif it were ignore, you could add it everywhere in the code without it breaking
14:41.58krkawhich you can't
14:42.11krkayou may only put it between statements (and inside table constructors)
14:42.47Xinhuani thought my context made it clear that you only use ; in that context in any language in the first place
14:42.50onaforeignshoreand ;; is invalid
14:43.56onaforeignshorewww.lua.org examples don't use ; so I'm sticking to their syntax :0
14:45.07Repo10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r106 / (13 files in 1 directory): first version
14:45.45evlAnyone leveled an alt latelty using any leveling addon of some sort (TourGuide/QH etc.) can't seem to find one that works with the 3.3 changes
14:45.51Xinhuan@describe splitter
14:45.52RepoXinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/addons/splitter/. Splitter. GetDKP Clone
14:46.32KriLL3what's with LDB addons and terrible icons? :\ going from titanpanel + LDB to pure LDB is a serious downgrade visually, and I can't find a LDB plugin that shows my honor on the bar and my BG marks in the tooltip
14:46.36onaforeignshoreQH is working for me
14:46.39Hidevl, Zygor
14:47.03Xinhuanjust torrent a pirated copy of zygor's leveling guide
14:47.05KriLL3QH works but it's 3.3 additions are very rough
14:47.14evland Zygor works with 3.3?
14:47.20Xinhuanits so brain dead that its actually one of the best
14:47.30Xinhuani don't see why it wouldn't, it doesn't use any map feature
14:47.37evlyeah I was planning on touching myself/knit while I did it
14:47.52Xinhuanit packages tomtom as part of its addon, but you can install the latest version of tomtom over it
14:48.25evlexcellent
14:48.26evlthanks
14:48.28KriLL3Xinhuan: it's an actual addon? thought it was just a .txt
14:49.02KriLL3isn't it against the EULA to charge for addons btw?
14:50.02asmodaiXinhuan: So what exactly does Zygor's guide do? Be some sort of questhelper for the shortest route to level 1-80?
14:50.24Xinhuanit just lists a series of steps you need to do from 1 to 354.
14:50.32Xinhuanstep 1: go to (x, y), accept quest Z
14:50.34KriLL3I wish someone made an addon like QH but it used the 3.3 information instead of some weird database, and it shouldn't be a buggy piece of bloatware
14:50.39Xinhuanstep 2: goto (a, b), kill X mobs
14:50.41yoshimoi think its "you pay for the pdf /doc witht the leveling guide and get an addon to help you with it", im not sure if thats against EULA
14:50.47Xinhuanand at every step, you get a tomtom arrow automated
14:50.55KriLL3yoshimo: ah, a bit gray
14:50.57Xinhuanthe guide advances each step as you do them automatically
14:51.14Xinhuanstep 134: Hearth and take flightpath from X to Y
14:51.22Xinhuanstep 135: set hearthstone at Y
14:51.25Xinhuanthat kindof thing
14:51.28asmodaiXinhuan: So the only value would be more streamling of the process
14:51.28Xinhuanits braindead
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14:51.31KriLL3Xinhuan: does it take your class/race into account?
14:51.32yoshimoxinhuan, doesnt tourguide do the same? im not sure about it
14:51.35Xinhuanyes KriLL3
14:51.52Xinhuanwell, by brain dead, what i mean is you don't even need to read the quest
14:52.03krkaso basically you eliminate the game part of the game. awesome!
14:52.06Xinhuanyou just need to follow the tomtom arrow, and the Kill X Blah, Loot X item
14:52.13Xinhuanleveling an alt is braindead anyway
14:52.21Xinhuanit even tells you when to hearth!
14:52.24yoshimo:D
14:52.50yoshimowe have zygor, joana, brian, but are there differences between them ?
14:53.12evlHmms, it seems great
14:53.24evlit even takes into account any extra xp from recruit a friend, hierloom, doing instances etc.
14:57.06Xinhuanzygor's route also makes sure you complete the quest achievement for each northrend zone (the Do X quests in Y zone) one
14:57.12asmodaiXinhuan: That frame they made does look slick though.
14:57.18asmodaiXinhuan: Just looked at their demo on YouTube
14:57.27asmodaiBut yeah, it's really braindead.
14:57.38asmodaiTurns you into a mouse click slave
14:57.40Xinhuanits so braindead a friend of mine used it to get first lvl80 on server
14:57.47Xinhuanof his class that is
14:57.47evlthat's pro :)
14:57.59Xinhuansince the guide for 70-80 was written in closed beta
14:58.00evlMight be hard on my server, 1000 queues every night hooo
14:58.10asmodaievl: seriously? :|
14:58.14evlYes, seriously
14:58.19asmodaiWhich is this?
14:58.22evlStormscale
14:58.24evlEU
14:58.26Repo10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 7ecb608 / (8 files in 3 directories): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit
14:58.27asmodaiwow :|
14:58.32evlyes, it's a wow server
14:58.36evl*fiffle*
14:58.48asmodaiNever had that on Stormrage or Thunderhorn
14:59.06evlit's just a very popular server, i just recently transferred back
15:01.02RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/. LibDeformat-3.0. ckknight (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
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15:06.20Repo10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r107 Splitter.lua: first version
15:09.31asmodaiHeh, seems like my guild failed to down Lady Deathwhisper last night
15:09.58Xinhuanheh
15:10.59asmodai11 tries, mmm
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15:11.46yoshimomhm i think saurfang is more difficult asmodai
15:11.52XtekHeyo.
15:11.54asmodaiyoshimo: Could be!
15:11.59asmodaiHeya xtek
15:12.15XtekHow was everyone's holiday?
15:12.41ckknighthey Xtek
15:12.47asmodaipretty good thanks
15:12.49asmodaiyours?
15:12.52ckknighthuzzah, I have fixed the documenter
15:12.55ckknight...I think
15:13.02Xtekhey ck
15:13.30Xtekpretty good, damn crotch bomber made travelling a bit of a pain
15:14.29Repo10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 4a07ed1 LibDeformat-3.0.lua: [+1 commit] change @example to @usage
15:14.33ckknightXtek: oh yea, didn't even think about that
15:15.06asmodaiInteresting, you'd think a spell like http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=72005 would qualify for both Frost and Shadow
15:15.23KriLL3weird, why do I sometimes get people with roughly the same gear as me, 5200gs~ but sometimes I end up in random groups as the lone guy over 3000gs... had one right now with 4x guys in leveling blues...
15:15.47KriLL3#1 dps by a huge lead as tank = failgroup
15:16.09KriLL3I did as much dmg as the rest of the party together
15:16.11asmodaiheh
15:16.18steevKriLL3: what kinda tank?
15:16.22KriLL3feral
15:16.24asmodaiThey labeled you a care bear :)
15:16.26steevmeh
15:16.39yoshimokrill, the included gearcheck from blizzard is not very strict ;)
15:16.40steevmy dk is consistently #2 in damage
15:16.45KriLL3asmodai: sure it's nice helping people out, but man it takes ages with that low dps
15:17.04steevfrost tank ftw
15:17.04Ackis~seen Xinhuan
15:17.05purlxinhuan is currently on #wowhead (2d 18h 21m 27s). Has said a total of 115 messages. Is idling for 7m 8s, last said: 'heh'.
15:17.18asmodaimy enhancement shaman was held back by his weapons
15:17.19KriLL3yoshimo: I thought the LFD system tried to match you with people with roughly as good gear
15:17.29asmodaiAfter getting nighttime and blood weaper my dps lept ahead :)
15:17.35steevi did a random the other day with all guildies for once
15:17.47steevit was kinda nice but god damn i had threat issues against our shaman
15:17.51Xinhuanwhy doesn't purl say i'm in this channel
15:18.09steevhttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Wafflehouse
15:18.21steevXinhuan: you aren't, you just think you are
15:18.33Ackis~seen Xinhuan
15:18.33purlxinhuan is currently on #wowhead (2d 18h 22m 55s). Has said a total of 116 messages. Is idling for 42s, last said: 'why doesn't purl say i'm in this channel'.
15:18.42AckisXinhuan: lol
15:18.47Xinhuan~seen Ackis
15:18.48purlackis is currently on #wowhead (3d 7h 40m 25s) #wowwiki (3d 7h 40m 25s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 6s, last said: 'Xinhuan: lol'.
15:18.49ckknighthey all, please look over the code and API for http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/, I'd appreciate it.
15:19.05Xinhuansee, it lists ackis in 2 channels but not this one
15:19.06asmodaisteev: *grin*
15:19.18AckisXinhuan: nor wowuidev, and arl
15:19.20asmodaisteev: That's why I tend to start a bit later after a tank picks up a mob
15:19.24steevasmodai: he's the only one who can pull off me
15:19.33Xinhuantry that command in #wowhead
15:19.38asmodaisteev: my guild tank complained about it, said I was lagging in starting dps after the casters
15:19.39Xinhuansee if it says different lol
15:19.43steevasmodai: eh, he's good (hopefully you can tell that by the armory) - but yeah
15:19.53asmodaisteev: until I mentioned that I had shitty tanks in the past where I stole threat :D
15:19.55KriLL3half the party jumped of the platform in nexus and died, I forged ahead with only the healer for company =P
15:20.03KriLL3didn't really notice any difference...
15:20.09asmodaiKriLL3: People keep doing that eh? :)
15:20.15KriLL3yeah
15:20.23steevback when i was undergeared
15:20.24asmodaidid that the very first time
15:20.28asmodainever again after
15:20.32steev(aka, the other day on my horde dk)
15:20.34asmodaiI *HATE* jumping and shortcuts
15:20.37KriLL3I never have, since I looked down before I jumped the first time =P
15:20.47steevi asked people to give me a second to gather up all the mobs
15:20.50steevit was heroic FoS
15:21.00KriLL3steev: FoS sucks
15:21.01steevone of those pulls with the shade wannabes
15:21.08KriLL3tons of widely spaced casters
15:21.09steevi *start* to run in
15:21.18steevmage fucking blinks in and frost novas
15:21.28KriLL3all the 3 new instances suck horribly for tanks, guess blizz want to punish us or something
15:21.45steevi'm like uh?
15:22.07steevso i let the mage die, and tell him next time he wants to do a pull, roll a tank
15:22.18asmodairofl
15:22.21KriLL3let me guess, he went ape?
15:22.25asmodaiglass cannons++
15:22.30steevhe left the group
15:22.33ckknightcya all in a bit
15:22.37KriLL3ckknight: cu
15:22.52steevwhich was awesome cuz it was the first group with the shade
15:23.08steevthird pull in basically
15:23.25steev4th pull (the 2 on the bridge)
15:23.30asmodaihahaha, reminds me of that floating face, what's its name again
15:23.32steevi'm about to go
15:23.41steevthe healer says "i need mana"
15:23.44steevso i stop
15:23.51KriLL3I hate dps that doesn't understand the basics of aggro management, it's a nightmare to get aggro back from multiple mobs, specially if none of them are hitting you to give aggro
15:23.55steevthe hunter runs up and shoots the mobs
15:24.05KriLL3*rage
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15:24.16steevthe hunter is on the same server (and in the same guild!) as the healer
15:24.20asmodaiso guild tank tells me to watch for a mark on random people and to stop dps or so, so something happens and I look around to find it, can't find anything, was lost the whole battle. Guess I need to reread that boss XD
15:24.32asmodaiThe downside of trying to be too helpful ;)
15:24.45steevasmodai: the last boss in FoS?
15:24.50steevit's mirror of souls
15:24.56asmodaiah yes, mirror of souls
15:25.03KriLL3and it's announced
15:25.10steevits not a mark, its a huge (depending on proximity) wavy line to the person
15:25.10KriLL3and you don't need to know on which it is
15:25.33asmodaiYeah, but I misunderstood something so spend quite some time being lost.
15:25.39KriLL3heh
15:25.50asmodaiIt's different from that ICC5 battle where you get a mark (brand) on you
15:25.57asmodaiso t here I am ready to DPS
15:26.00KriLL3that boss is a bit weird, luckily it has too little hp to stress the party too much, but yeah it feels somewhat frantic
15:26.05asmodaiand get branded 5 times in the entire bloody fight :S
15:26.22asmodaiso yeah, then your DPS wavers off quite a bit. Good thing I'm bursty as enhancement.
15:26.41steevasmodai: srsly? its heroics, dps doesn't matter *that* much
15:26.56asmodaisteev: Well, for me it was :)
15:26.58steevalthough it did take us 10 minutes cuz we lost almost everyone in the group due to brand
15:27.03steevit was me and the hunter left
15:27.04KriLL3btw last boss in PoS is fun, does a knockback and then a buff that makes all his attacks one hits, thus tank needs to kite on ice patches, only problem is that dps doesn't realize I only got to him him like 5 times before he did that...
15:27.05asmodaisteev: Since I was undergeared at first XD
15:27.05Xinhuanyou can "cheese" the mark at saufang though
15:27.11steevand i just kept kiting the boss over the ice
15:27.20KriLL3and he one hits 1-2 dps:ers =P
15:27.30KriLL3"zomg tank, why not on boss!?""
15:27.44steevKriLL3: i really hate that
15:27.50profalbert~seen zeksie
15:27.51purlzeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 19d 15h 59m 24s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'.
15:27.56steevmost people are like
15:28.22KriLL3funny specially that the ones he one hit are usually classes with abilities to remove aggro
15:28.39KriLL3I guess binding FD is too much of a hassle...
15:28.51asmodaiKriLL3: I think I can only do that with wind shear
15:29.12pentium166that's what reincarnation is for!
15:29.55KriLL3well still don't you have a treat meter? or at least know that if the tank got to hit the boss like twice you shouldn't nuke?
15:30.25Xinhuanunless yuo're a rogue
15:30.27KriLL3lol pala in orgrimmar, though he could be cool and throw a bubble + hs, but he started hs too late, we hit him just as bubble ended and hs failed =P
15:30.39Xinhuanyou're allowed to hit the boss before the tank does if you're a rogue :P
15:30.47KriLL3ToT?
15:30.57KriLL3or are you being sarcastic?
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15:32.22KriLL3a lot of melee dps seems to think it's wasted to stand behind mobs, and like to stand right on top of them when they spawn/activate etc, hate using taunt first second in a fight
15:32.52ckknightk
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15:39.12KriLL3is there an addon that auto sells soulbound unusable items?
15:39.24KriLL3like plate/mail as druid
15:40.42yoshimokrill, dont you hit the mob better if you stand behind of it unless it has a tail? ;)
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15:41.41KriLL3yes it can't parry
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15:43.36AntiarcWas secureHeader:ChildUpdate() removed/renamed?
15:43.42Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.9-9-g908a00a Code/Triggers.lua: [+2 commits]
15:43.44Repo908a00a: add default-trigger for Serendipity (disabled by default)
15:43.45Repo35db9f8: rename "Free Smite"-trigger to "Surge of Light"
15:43.48AntiarcIt's in Iriel's guide, but I'm getting a nil error in actual usage.
15:45.05ThiefMasterhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZx0xAMzgbo <- any ideas if that paladin tanking build is good for lvl40?
15:45.28AntiarcReckoning isn't that great, Imp Devo Aura is great
15:45.43AntiarcDivine Sac/Divine Guardian are nice buffer tools
15:46.10AntiarcHoJ is a PVP talent
15:46.43AntiarcI'd take Spiritual Attunement before Holy Shield
15:46.51AntiarcOtherwise you'll be mana-starved the whole time
15:47.06Antiarchttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZx0tAbuMu
15:47.54KriLL3doubt your build matters much at 40
15:48.00KriLL3it's facerollable
15:48.20AntiarcSpiritual Attunement will definitely matter
15:48.35ThiefMastersure it is, i tanked all instances as retri but since i have way enough gold why not buy dualspec with a real tanking build ;)
15:48.36KriLL3my brother got blue items over his own level in the mail when he did a random dungeon at 37
15:48.45profalbertckknight: http://paste.wowace.com/1593/
15:49.01ckknightprofalbert: on it
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15:49.36ckknightfixed, profalbert
15:50.51Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.9-10-g9e01e6a CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] update changelog
15:51.17yoshimoso krill, why dont people stand behind mobs then to make more dmg? i know everyone wants to be first in recount ;)
15:51.35krkayou make more damage behind mobs? O_o
15:51.54yoshimoyes because you hit them more often
15:52.08krkaoh i see
15:52.15krkamob has lower parry / dodge then?
15:52.20yoshimoindeed
15:52.21AntiarcThey can't parry or block from behind
15:52.43AntiarcThey can still dodge, but you pick up about 10% mitigation, raise your crit cap, and severely reduce the chances of being cleaved in twain.
15:52.43krkajust like your mom!
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15:54.24yoshimounless its a dragon , in which case you should attack from the side to avoid being cleaved and hit by tails
15:55.40KriLL3yoshimo: the fools linking recount every encounter aren't smart enough to know how to actually improve their DPS, they're usually just outgearing everyone since their friend takes em along as a charity in raids
15:56.35yoshimokrill, recount is a nice tool, but most people cant use it. complaining about low dps hunters in an encounter where the hunter is moving a lot, doesnt make sense
15:56.43KriLL3I had a rogue whine at me that I swiped zombies in CoS because it put me above him on dps meters...
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15:56.52Antiarc....wow.
15:57.02KriLL3"zomg that's cheating!"
15:57.15AntiarcAlso if the hunter has to move a lot, chances are everyone has to move a lot >_>
15:57.46KriLL3yes though generally speaking melee don't mind moving
15:57.56KriLL3since we don't have casts
15:57.58AntiarcDepends on what kind of movement it is, heh
15:58.16KriLL3well I had a warrior stand perfectly still at last boss in nexus just now...
15:58.19AntiarcIf I'm chasing Deathwhisper adds around, I mind very much :P
15:58.26KriLL3had a billion stacks of chill
15:58.39yoshimoor complaining about healers that are low on heal, because they spent the whole fight with cleansing debuffs ;)
15:59.17KriLL3what about healers too busy to play dps to heal? =P
15:59.26Fiskeri hate deathwhisper
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15:59.45FiskerMC'd persons should get like 75% reduced aoe damage or something
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16:00.25yoshimokrill, im paladin, so either dps OR heal , doesnt fit together. Im not a priest ;)
16:01.07KriLL3yoshimo: heh, I've had a bunch of priests in HCs that think they're the best dps:er in the world and just throw hots at me, usually works but sometimes it doesn't...
16:01.15KriLL3especially in HoR
16:01.39KriLL3priest gets stunned, 2 footmen zerk and I got magic dmg debuff & mage nuking me
16:01.48KriLL3that HoT isn't enough then
16:02.14Fiskerwhy would a dps'er throw hots on you?
16:02.24KriLL3I survive perhaps if I throw all my tanking cooldowns...
16:02.28yoshimowell i know priests in holyspec and gear can do a nice amount of dmg, but if you die, that doesnt help ;)
16:02.49KriLL3Fisker: it's a holy priest with healer as role, but they dps more than heal because they're weird
16:02.57Fisker...
16:03.21KriLL3a lot of disc healer priests in instances also recently, isn't disc rubbish compared to holy in PvE? are they just too cheap to dual spec?
16:03.21ThiefMasterrecount is even better if people start flaming disc priests due to low hps :p
16:03.44ThiefMasterand no, disc is perfectly fine for pve.. and having one in a raid is awesome
16:03.51yoshimothiefmaster, ignore those people
16:04.03ThiefMasteri don't play a priest anyway
16:04.04KriLL3well disc priests don't seem as good healers in HCs anyway...
16:04.18yoshimorecountguessedabsorbs might help
16:04.26KriLL3most of them tend to wait for my HP to drop to 1/3 and then do a big slow cast to get me back to 1/2
16:04.36KriLL3I don't like that
16:04.38Gnarfozhearsay and generalizations
16:04.47Gnarfozjust like we like KriLL3 :D
16:05.09KriLL3my finger next to my survival instincts bind witches when I'm that low that long
16:05.18KriLL3*twitches
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16:34.35ThiefMasterumm which seal do i use for tanking? just noticed that SoC was a ret talent..
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16:35.31GnarfozThiefMaster: SoV
16:35.35onaforeignshoreI'm dual disc/holy and I use disc a lot more than holy
16:36.03ThiefMasternot available as lvl40 ;x
16:36.29onaforeignshoredisc priest + mage with incanters absorption = lotsa dps :p
16:37.27onaforeignshorerecount guessed absorbs + recount absorb + heal
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16:43.19yoshimoonaforeignshore , absorb isnt heal, as elsia already explained ;)
16:47.16sztanpetits better
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16:47.44sztanpetskada has an absorbs + heal mode in alpha
16:49.03Repo10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * df633d1 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add some comments and move some code around.
16:53.12GnarfozThiefMaster: SoR, then
16:57.46Superfly1I thought you cant track which players' shield absorbed the damage, did blizz change that in 3.3?
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17:01.50AntiarcWhat's the easiest way to get the time left on the GCD?
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17:04.07AntiarcNevermind!
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17:06.28Antiarc.....heh.
17:06.43AntiarcCreating a new Cooldown frame accidentally attached to UIParent is awesome
17:06.56onaforeignshoreyoshimo: there's a module for recount called absorb + heal which adds the 2 together
17:07.39yoshimoi know, but why should you sum up apples and citrons, aka 2 different things?
17:08.15GnarfozSuperfly1: that's what the "guessed" part stands for
17:09.01steevare the items for the mechano-hog bop from the vendor? or just require engineering/knowing the pattern to get
17:10.24yoshimothere is no bop on them just a "requires engineering"
17:12.30sb|workonaforeignshore: does that thing actually work?
17:12.33sb|work*downloading*
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17:18.12digmouseLF Oceanic or US East realm recommendation, alliance
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17:23.00Repo10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 4cfaf7c / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add tests to main LibDeformat-3.0.lua, accessible only in debug mode and LibDeformat.Test() must be called to run the tests. Remove other tests, as they're not really useful anymore.
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17:26.00yoshimopurl is very quiet today, is there a command to check if shes alive?
17:26.10durcyn~ping
17:26.11purl~pong
17:26.26sb|work~~~~
17:26.27purlARGH!!! STOP IT sb|work!!!
17:26.42profalbertoh finally a libstubbed version of deformat
17:27.03profalbertlooking forward to get rid of AceLibrary
17:27.54yoshimo~seen Ulic
17:27.56purlulic <n=ulic@71-218-8-155.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 7m 24s ago, saying: 'I think it was called PB_ProfileSwitcher or something similar.'.
17:28.12yoshimoah ok, purl doesnt want to answer queries
17:28.25durcynprivmsgs should work just fine
17:29.28yoshimoshe answers but not if i use seen in a privmsg
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17:31.20durcyndon't use tildes in privmsg
17:31.33yoshimoi dont
17:31.53yoshimoif i do she says me that i shouldnt ;)
17:32.13durcyndunno what to tell you, maybe you're ignored.
17:33.21yoshimo~seen azethoth
17:33.22purlyoshimo: i haven't seen 'azethoth'
17:33.34yoshimothat works but /msg purl seen azethoth doesnt ;)
17:34.55rbarreirosdoesn't work for me either
17:39.33Gnarfozyoshimo: he's toadkiller around here
17:39.35Gnarfoz~seen toadkiller
17:39.36purltoadkiller <n=dnester@74-93-1-74-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 71d 5h 21m 44s ago, saying: 'You need to watch "Gone in 60 seconds" to get the reference'.
17:40.04yoshimo71 days is a heck of a long time
17:41.49Megalonquite some toads being killed in that time
17:42.52asmodaibloody hell, and now I cannot repeat my reproducibility at all :(
17:43.36Megalonbetter if you don't reproduce at all!
17:45.04ckknightprofalbert
17:45.07ckknightlook over my codes
17:45.13ckknightprofalbert: for LibDeformat-3.0
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17:46.26profalbertThe useage is the same as Deformat-2.0 right?
17:47.48profalbertckknight: oh, the folder is named LibDeformat-1.0?
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17:48.42ckknightis it?
17:48.48ckknighteep
17:48.49ckknighthang on
17:49.36Repo10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 4deff67 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Fix folder name in .pkgmeta
17:49.38asmodaiSo I die during a daily on which you ride a dragon, and now my corpse is up on the air and you get to resurrect high up inthe air as well
17:49.41asmodaifun!
17:49.57rbarreiroso.O
17:50.10ckknightprofalbert: well, Deformat only takes two arguments rather than 1 + any number, it just concatted them together.
17:50.15ckknightprofalbert: do you use that anywhere?
17:51.28profalbertnope always 2 args
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17:56.39Pneumatusdamn you to hell FH_DATE_PAST_20XX :<
17:56.45sb|workhehe
17:56.46Pneumatusworst spamassassin rule ever
17:56.54rbarreiroso.O
17:57.01Pneumatustime to check lenny volatile
17:58.48Pneumatus14 clean messages vs 966 flagged as spam did seem a little high :o
17:59.10sb|workhm thats okay for me :p
17:59.30ckknighthey, anyone know the data formats for questcache.wdb for 3.3?
18:01.23onaforeignshoreI have a little frame pop up now that says "xxx\nDoesn't have Quixote." - can't close it or hide it and have no idea what addon it's from now :(
18:01.30onaforeignshoreanyone have any ideas?
18:04.27onaforeignshoreand I have a Who box pop up with "n-Name" the whole time
18:04.40onaforeignshorewhen I find the culprits I'm gonna nail them :p
18:06.32Fiskerckknight ask Adys
18:06.50ckknightgot the info, actually
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18:07.51steevPneumatus: fwiw, that sounds about right for some of my accounts :/
18:08.31Pneumatuswell, it is about right for mine, just i know of at least one message that normally gets ~6.0 that got deleted
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18:33.26steevwill i ever be able to right click on a unit frame and choose set focus?
18:34.29Shadowedwell
18:34.34ShadowedBlizzard has yet to fix the bug since like 2.0
18:34.35Shadowedso
18:35.02PneumatusGlobal variable UIDROPDOWNMENU_MENU_LEVEL tainted by Acheron - Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:597
18:35.08Pneumatusthats for my set focus :<
18:35.21ShadowedThe only way it'll ever work is someone gets crazy enough to actually replicate the entire dropdown code as a secure header
18:35.28Shadowedor Blizzard fixes it, which won't happen till at least 4.0
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18:41.52PrimerAnyone know if there's an event for a POI being removed from the map due to a quest completion?
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18:43.00koaschtenanyone here ever terminated a contract with his ISP because they failed to deliver proper service?
18:43.59sb|workhaha
18:44.00sb|work:)
18:44.03koaschten:(
18:44.08PrimerNot I, as I have  only one ISP that can deliver high speed internet where I live
18:45.11koaschtenspeedtest.net fails to test the bandwidth of my line at the moment. because it times out during the upload due to abysmal speeds
18:45.17koaschten>:(
18:45.35Primerperhaps it's just a temporary fuck up on their part
18:45.48PrimerI had a month's worth of temporary fuckup on my ISP's part
18:46.01koaschteni am having issues since last summer
18:46.02Primerand it was just that...a badly configured router upstream
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18:46.14koaschtenand i am so fed up, i am considering to cancel the contract one-sided
18:46.24koaschtenbecause they fail to deliver
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18:47.33koaschteni am having packetloss on the first 3 hops from my router in their network
18:47.36koaschtenits just >:(
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18:54.59Repo10blessed: 03Antiarc 07master * 6da53aa / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Lots of UI polish, think it pretty much works for single-player now. Comms up next!
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19:00.56Repo10blessed: 03Antiarc 07master * 75b6631 / (3 files in 1 directory): [+2 commits]
19:00.58Repo75b6631: Add embeds to TOC
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19:01.40profalberthaste: ping
19:02.39yoshimodoes blessed use libtalenquery to find out peoples specs`?
19:03.26profalberthaste: maybe you want to have a look at http://tinyurl.com/y89e6so
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19:05.14Antiarcyoshimo: Not yet.
19:05.19AntiarcPlanning on doing something like that.
19:06.20AntiarcMy intent is for it to be as intelligent with defaults as possible
19:07.57AntiarcIs there an event that fires when another player changes specs?
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19:10.27yoshimodoes the spell "activate spec" show in combatlog for other players?
19:12.34profalbertnope
19:15.43yoshimowhat about ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED or PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE antiarc?
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19:16.18AntiarcThose are fired locally
19:16.22AntiarcDon't think they fire for everyone
19:18.05Repo10fubar_durabilityfu: 03Zidomo * r127 FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc:
19:18.07RepoPush version to repackage with latest Dewdrop (r321). Which (finally) allows the standalone minimap button to provide an options menu. Which LDB displays + FuBar2Broker & original FuBar have already had.
19:20.10PrimerCan anyone explain what [] does in this macro: /cast [@=mouseover,help] [] Renew
19:20.39PrimerI'm having a bitch of a time making multiple stance macros because of that []
19:20.56Primer(renew was not the best example)
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19:21.53Primerthe [] makes it so I can self-cast it, I know that much
19:22.29Pneumatusnfi, i have it in my mana burn macro as well
19:22.30Primerwithout it I can only cast it if I have actually have a target or a mouseover
19:22.59Primerhrmm, but now I'm not so sure, since you mentioned that
19:23.01Pneumatusoh, its like an else condition
19:23.23Pneumatusso the first case doesnt match, so it falls to [] which means cast as normal
19:23.33Pneumatuswithout it, it would only be castable on mouseover
19:23.44Primerwhich is why nothing after it matches
19:23.49Pneumatusyeh
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19:24.25Pneumatusso you could have /cast [@=mouseover,exists][focus,help][] Renew
19:24.26Pneumatusor something
19:24.51quiescensmoo
19:25.14Primer/cast [@=mouseover,help,stance:0] [@=target,help,stance:0] [@=player,stance:0] Regrowth; [stance:1] Lacerate  <-- perhaps?
19:26.23Primerall the "help,stance:0" are so redundant though
19:26.37quiescensdo the @ things work already
19:26.40Primeryes
19:26.45Primerhave since the last patch
19:26.52Primer3.3
19:27.30Stanzillawhy "@="
19:27.37Stanzillaisn't it just "@"
19:27.37Primertarget=
19:27.46Primererr dunno
19:27.51Primeroperating from memory here
19:27.53Stanzillawould make more sense :p
19:27.56Primersure
19:27.58quiescensi would have thought yeah
19:28.01quiescensit makes more sense
19:28.02quiescenslol
19:28.13quiescensplus it saves another character
19:29.47Primerwhat I'd really like is something like "conditional, target order"
19:30.52quiescenslets just make it turing complete
19:30.53Primer/cast [stance:0,@mouseover,@target,@player] Regrowth; [stance:1] Lacerate; [stance:3] Maim <-- for example
19:31.21Primerwith Regrowth being a helpful spell, it should know that "help" is implied
19:31.34Pneumatusstance:0 is implicit, isnt it?
19:31.47PrimerI don't think so
19:31.54Primerperhaps I mean [nostance]
19:31.59Primerbut is that not the same?
19:32.05Pneumatussame amount of letters anyway
19:32.09Pneumatusso it if works :P
19:32.11Primertrue
19:32.23quiescensnoform
19:32.25quiescens!
19:32.44quiescensi don't actually remember if that exists
19:32.47Primerit's just that I'm running out of bars for my druid, plus I'm not a clicker
19:33.17quiescens/cast moo
19:33.25Primerso I need these macros so that the same key can do different things depending on stance
19:33.43Primerand they're getting horribly complex
19:34.39Pneumatuswhy would you want to heal as feral? :P
19:34.59Primermyself, after combat
19:35.04Primeror whatever
19:35.26Pneumatusmore importantly, why isnt the pvpobjectives frame centered in the screen
19:35.30Pneumatusit's annoying me now :<
19:35.31Primermy druid is only 66 anyhow
19:37.12yoshimopneumatus, nothing an addon cant fix ;)
19:37.29Pneumatustrue, if i can figure out the frame name ill reanchor it
19:38.06Pneumatusframestack doesnt tell me its name though :<
19:41.35yoshimowasnt it worldstateframe or something similiar?
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19:46.25PneumatusWorldStateAlwaysUpFrame possibly
19:47.01Shadowedit is
19:48.31yoshimoyes, that one is also used in capping , which allows you to move the pvp thing
19:49.15Pneumatusim guessing the default anchor must offset it to the right or something
19:49.22Pneumatuswhy on earth it's not centered is beyond me
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19:58.40PrimerAnyone know if there's an event for a POI being removed from the map due to a quest completion?
20:05.38PrimerI wish jnwhiteh was here
20:05.42Primerhe'd surely know
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20:16.20yoshimoyou still have to add new statusses in grid with the name of the spell you want to track instead of the id, havent you?
20:16.43Pneumatusi dont have to add any status :o
20:16.51Pneumatusgridstatusraiddebuff :)
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20:18.19yoshimoi know about that one, already suggested a few things there ;)
20:20.43yoshimowhich country has WST as timezone?
20:23.59asmodaiAustralasia
20:24.08asmodaiWST WST Western Australia
20:25.01Yssarilasmodai: i am considering adding more loot tables (just have to figure out a sane way to display them with no blizzard provided maps)
20:25.42yoshimoasmodai, do you happen to know when australia has patchday?
20:26.05nevcairielsame as US
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20:26.47yoshimoah thx
20:27.30nevcairielaustralia doesnt have their own servers
20:27.40nevcairielthe so called oceanic servers are pretty much in sync with US servers
20:27.54durcynthey do now, actually
20:28.10durcynoceania
20:31.09Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r256 Rules/Engine.lua: Updating unit ID player on initialization (static)
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20:45.32Repo10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 04v1 * 0cb38e4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1
20:54.04Shefkidurcyn: They have separate servers but they're hosted in the US>
20:55.18nevcairielafaik they just have different time zones
20:59.24durcyndifferent logon server last i checked
20:59.42durcynus.logon is just the states and mexico, is it not?
21:01.53onaforeignshoreckknight: first and last line of libdeformat-3.0 usage is nearly identical?
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21:02.28ckknightonaforeignshore: yea, doing a call on the library or calling Deformat is the same.
21:02.39onaforeignshorecool
21:03.23onaforeignshorejust one question then - why have LibDeformat.Deformat at all then, why not just call the lib like the last line?
21:03.30onaforeignshoresince there's only the 1 method
21:03.48ckknightup to the user of the lib.
21:04.01ckknightthere's also LibDeformat.Test(), for instance
21:04.15ckknightnot available in non-debug
21:04.16ckknightbut still
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21:04.36onaforeignshorein everyday use though, it's only Deformat() :p
21:04.59Shadowed@roject LibDeformat-3-0
21:05.02ckknightcorrect
21:05.06ckknight@project libdeformat-3-0
21:05.07Shadowed@project libdeformat-3-0
21:05.10Repockknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/. LibDeformat-3.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 minutes ago
21:05.11RepoShadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/. LibDeformat-3.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 minutes ago
21:05.24ckknightShadowed: feel free to review the code
21:05.26NeoTronis that a rewrite?
21:05.30ckknightNeoTron: basically.
21:05.35ckknightit should be a lot faster.
21:05.39ckknightand simpler\
21:05.41ckknightand documented.
21:06.00Shadowedwell
21:06.04Shadowedwhat's the point
21:06.12ckknightchat loot events.
21:06.13ShadowedIt seems like it's basically a fancier version of string.format
21:06.21ckknightno, it's the exact opposite of string.format
21:06.28NeoTronit's string.deformat
21:06.45ckknightLibDeformat("Hello: friend", "Hello: %s") == "friend"
21:06.46Shadowedfancier version of taking string.format text and converting it into string.match text*
21:06.53ckknightcorrect, Shadowed
21:07.01ckknightbut it works with fucked up shit like %1$s
21:07.05ckknightdifferent positionings
21:07.09ckknightwhich is prevalent in other languages.
21:09.57Fiskeri just ate hamburgers ckknight
21:10.01ckknightawesome
21:10.09jnwhitehPrimer: i have no idea =)
21:10.23onaforeignshoreckknight: any idea why packager still won't convert my luadoc into an API?
21:10.34ckknightoh yea, there was an issue
21:10.43ckknightonaforeignshore: what's your repo path?
21:10.50onaforeignshore@project guilder
21:10.52Repoonaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/addons/guilder/. Guilder. Game: WoW. onaforeignshore (Manager/Author), StingerSoft (Translator). Updated: 27 hours ago. Tickets: 1/5
21:10.55Primerjnwhiteh: well, TomTom has better waypoint management than my crappy addon. I was relying on the button to still be there to delete the waypoint
21:11.07jnwhitehhe
21:11.22Primerjnwhiteh: I added the ability to set a waypoint from a POI, as TomTom does
21:11.29onaforeignshorehttp://hg.wowace.com/wow/guilder/mainline
21:11.43Primerbut I have no way of managing it when it "goes away", other than to set another POI as the waypoint
21:11.49jnwhitehyeah *shrug*
21:12.16ckknightk, onaforeignshore
21:12.21ckknightonaforeignshore: you're all good now.
21:12.34ckknighthttp://www.wowace.com/addons/guilder/pages/
21:13.06PrimerI've been meaning to add an interface for managing waypoints. Once I do that, I'll v1.0 my addon, as then it'll have everything I set out for it to have
21:13.21krkawould be nice if tomtom maintaine a stack of active pois, and owners of pois could decide to hide or show pois, and let tomtom take care of remembering ordering
21:13.25jnwhitehPrimer: whats the addon?
21:13.30jnwhitehkrka: yeah, there's lots like that I'd want to do
21:13.32jnwhitehjust dont have the time atm.
21:13.32Primerjnwhiteh: FlightHUD
21:13.36jnwhitehcool
21:13.57krkaalternatively put multiple pois on at the same time, but at different locations
21:14.16onaforeignshoreckknight: thanks :)
21:14.18krkawould be useful if you're tracking multiple quest objectives at the same time
21:14.42Primerkrka: mine could easily do that, but I've implemented POI tracking as "transient", meaning, one at a time
21:14.43Fiskerjnwhiteh back in teh uk yet?
21:14.55Torhalckknight: Numbers in for the month yet?
21:14.58Primermuch like how you can register a QuestHelper callback to have it set the "active" quest
21:15.06ckknightTorhal: not just yet
21:15.18TorhalAlrighty
21:15.32jnwhitehFisker: not until the 6th
21:20.10Fiskerdamn
21:23.30Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.10 * ca68aeb /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.10
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21:27.47Repo10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.10-1-gecd15dc / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] upgrade to LibDeformat-3.0 and get rid of Ace2 for good
21:32.10Tuskhow come no one has ever made same as tekKrush for BoP ??
21:35.50Repo10libgroup-1-0: 03onaforeignshore * r22 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added tag 1.0.1 for changeset b82855751b2c
21:35.52Repoadded .docmeta and updated luadoc - first release with API on website (now that it's fixed :)
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21:37.34Tuskok forget i'll just add it
21:38.03ckknightonaforeignshore: did that make the docs properly?
21:38.16ckknightprofalbert: is LibDeformat-3.0 all good?
21:38.46Repo10libgroup-1-0: 03onaforeignshore * r24 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added tag 1.0.2 for changeset 08a1238201fa
21:38.47onaforeignshoreckknight: yes, though I made a silly mistake :)
21:38.47Repofixed luadoc - @return in stead of @returns
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21:43.55orionshockShadowed: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44014  -- being marked as a Healer/DPS trinket :|
21:44.05ShadowedI know
21:44.16orionshockah know issue
21:44.39Kalrothhey, it's a good resto shaman trinket!
21:46.06Tuskyeah you just don't right click on it
21:59.20onaforeignshorewhich is better to use in terms of garbage collection and speed? "some %s":format("thing") or format("some %s", "thing) or "some ".."thing"?
22:05.11orionshockonaforeignshore: all have about the same GC, for speed the 3rd method would probably be faster
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22:14.45Repoluadoc fixes
22:14.46Repominor error in Busy Responder - Test Message logic
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22:18.33onaforeignshoreorionshock: does that still hold true when assigning to variables, i.e. a = a.." thing" vs. a = format("%s thing", a) ?
22:19.42onaforeignshorereason I ask is because Shefki says concatenation (..) makes a new string to replace a, which then needs to be garbage collected
22:20.11onaforeignshorea = a..b vs. a = format("%s%s", a, b)
22:21.48Gagoriana .. b is faster
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22:23.46Repo10quickstrat: 03naver * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added location based logic.
22:23.48orionshockonaforeignshore: depends on what your doing.  (a..b..c..d..e..f)  is all done in one concatenate and creates one resulting string.  format is better suited when you have several injections in the middle of another string.
22:23.48RepoAdded locations to existing DB entries.
22:24.05orionshockthat and a format is easier to read vs a long list or ...
22:24.09orionshock<PROTECTED>
22:25.33orionshockie: combat log stuff is all done with :format()
22:26.14GagorianBut for a single concat, using format is about 3x slower
22:26.33orionshocktrue, because of the function call  overhead
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22:27.12onaforeignshoreand if the variables are strings and numbers?
22:27.14orionshockonaforeignshore: however don't let that deter you, lua's string manipulations are fast to begin with.
22:27.58orionshockonaforeignshore: write it the way it feels natural. remember you have to read it, so don't make it cryptic
22:28.46ckknightonaforeignshore: if you have a lot of strings, make a table and keep adding to it
22:28.51ckknightt[#t+1] = "alpha "
22:28.53ckknightt[#t+1] = 5
22:28.56ckknighttable.concat(t, "")
22:29.09onaforeignshoreShowMessage(L["%s is disabled"]:format("|cff00c0ff"..L["Version Checker"].."|r"))
22:29.33ckknightthat looks fine.
22:29.35onaforeignshoreI use a combination for clarity for localisation
22:29.43ckknightclarity is #1
22:29.50ckknightwell, maintainability is #1
22:29.54ckknightclarity falls under that
22:29.57ShadowedMaybe I have localizers who are non-idiots but, I've never had issues with localizers and color codes
22:30.08Shadowedeasier to just embed them generally
22:30.13Gagorianonaforeignshore: Well you only need to create that string once
22:30.19GagorianSo it's exactly the same how you do it
22:30.52orionshockGagorian: however the 2nd is the addons name, could be used elsewhere. IMO just use 1 complete string.
22:31.08orionshocklet the localisers figure it out :)
22:32.09ckknightopen question: best/most fun tank to play?
22:32.21orionshockckknight: druid :)
22:32.50CrazyBennyI really enjoy tanking as warrior lately ;)
22:32.53ckknightI've mostly done pally tanking, but if I have to reroll, I want to try something else
22:33.13GagorianWell obviously you're gonna get at least one reply of each :p
22:33.26ckknightGagorian: :P
22:35.29AeyanI'd say warrior or DK, but maybe I'm a little biased
22:35.44AeyanDruid is a fun solo class, but full time group tanking seems like it'd be boring
22:36.04ckknightthe idea is I'd be spending 90%+ time in groups.
22:36.55AeyanMaul, Lacerate, Mangle, repeat
22:37.01AeyanOr swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe
22:37.03AeyanHehe
22:37.11AeyanBut I've never played one so I can't say
22:37.13onaforeignshoreDruid tank is nice since you can do other things when offtanking and not having a target :p
22:37.24AeyanTrue
22:37.37onaforeignshoreplus kitty helps you run away quickly :p
22:38.09ckknightfor me as a pally, it's consecrate, judgement, righteous defense on the healer, hand of salvation on the dumbass DPS that pulled, repeat
22:38.32AeyanWarrior seems like a more complicated tank
22:38.47AeyanDKs are fun if you like rotations and a few nifty tricks in the bag
22:39.02ckknightalso, I'm thinking about making another poll. Same question as the current (level of respect), but provide the different archetypes of each class rather than just the class itself, e.g. Tank Paladin vs. Damage Paladin vs. Healing Paladin
22:39.08Aeyanand still top some DPS charts
22:39.38ckknightI top my DPS charts as a pally
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22:39.51AeyanYeah, not hard to do with a paladin either
22:39.53ckknightnote, only lvl 44, but last run, I was 50% more than the next guy
22:40.09ckknightand 400% more than the worst DPS
22:40.27hasteprofalbert: no, I don't consider that a clean, not valid solution
22:40.43onaforeignshorewarrior tanks have more interest since they have not only different specs, but within each spec can gear for different things, ie. avoidance tank
22:41.17Repo10blessed: 03Antiarc 07master * 014aa36 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits]
22:41.19Repo014aa36: Allow for variable anchoring, fix an issue with spell propagation during combat, fix an issue with 'do we know this spell' checking.
22:41.35Repo09c576a: Don't queue a dead player as the next spell recipient, and fix texcoords for re-used sub-buttons
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22:43.00AeyanIf you're starting from level 1, I suppose discussing DK tanks is a moot point
22:43.27AeyanIf that's the case, I'd say warrior
22:43.30onaforeignshorelol - DKs require you to have at least one maxed character, don't they?
22:43.37Aeyan55+
22:43.41ckknightonaforeignshore: no issue there
22:44.01Repo10quickstrat: 03naver * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): Some minor bug fixes.
22:44.55onaforeignshoreckknight: just thought I'd mention it in case :)
22:45.11onaforeignshoreif you want a quick to 80 tank, go DK
22:45.30onaforeignshoresome nice abilities
22:45.36ckknightmight be a possibility
22:45.38onaforeignshorebut not much of a challenge tbh
22:45.39ckknighthmm
22:45.43ckknightnot sure yet
22:45.49AeyanIt's my favorite
22:45.49ckknightwe're gonna do a guild here at curse
22:45.51onaforeignshorewarrior requires more thinking to tank with than DK
22:45.53AeyanBut warriors seem interesting too
22:45.54ckknighton a server that I don't play on
22:48.03onaforeignshoreDKs can also regenerate their own health in certain tanking specs, so easy to heal and stay alive :p
22:48.06ulicckknight: get them to pay for a transfer :)
22:48.14PrimerI DK tank as blood
22:48.16Antiarcckknight: Amusing that Curse was a guild website, and now a company, and now a guild.
22:48.17ckknightnah, I like my current server, ulic
22:48.25Primerbut blood is not the best for AOE tanking
22:48.29XtekAntiarc: I see what you did there.
22:48.35ckknightAntiarc: :P
22:48.38Xtekulic: I think the point is that we kind of level/play together.
22:48.58ckknightand I call tank since Xtek already called healer
22:49.00ckknightand I hate DPS
22:49.03ulicoh so all rerolling, that would be fun.
22:49.13ulicI probably didn't scroll up enough.
22:49.17XtekYeah, levelling is easy anyways.
22:49.25onaforeignshoreI would rather heal a warrior than a paladin or druid tank
22:49.36XtekPff.
22:49.42XtekDruids are jokes.
22:49.43ckknighthow so, onaforeignshore?
22:49.46onaforeignshoredruids esp can be what I like to call "squishy"
22:50.02onaforeignshorewarriors can withstand more burst damage
22:50.02ckknightthrow some hots on, take a nap
22:50.04XtekDruid tanking can be boring though.
22:50.12XtekSwipe swipe swipe swipe, repeat
22:50.24onaforeignshoredruids need to be specced just right or their health drops very quickly
22:50.33Stanzilladruid tanking is faceroll
22:50.34onaforeignshoreand paladins range in-between
22:50.42AntiarcAre we seriously arguing about World of Hybridcraft class viability
22:50.43onaforeignshorefrom a healin PoV
22:50.56AntiarcGood druids, warriors, and paladins are all super-easy to heal
22:50.58ulicI need to start my own company so I can WoW at work.
22:51.00AntiarcBad ones of any kind are super-hard to heal
22:51.24onaforeignshoreYes sir boss sir!
22:51.24XtekHah, my last 2 jobs I've been able to, been asked to play WoW at work.
22:52.49onaforeignshorethink warrior, paladin and DK are easiest to gear - at least on my realm, cause there always more plate drops than anything else :p
22:56.16RepoNew poll: http://www.wowace.com/polls/your-level-of-respect-for-wow-classes-by-archetype/
22:56.51Stanzillahuge poll is huge
22:57.20ckknighttruth
22:57.22ckknightfill it out.
22:57.51Stanzillanah
22:58.13onaforeignshorelol - someone was bored :p
22:58.25Stanzillayou'd have to divide it into pvp and pve :P
22:58.34Primerpoll is odd
22:58.37AntiarcSeriously, roll a hybrid
22:58.44AntiarcYou'll change your mind 12 times before 80
22:58.47Primerusually it should go best to worst, left to right
22:58.49AntiarcThat way you have options
22:59.01PrimerI wonder how many people will interpret it thusly
22:59.03XinhuanHunter - Melee Damage?
22:59.04Xinhuanlol
22:59.18Cyrez:)
22:59.31onaforeignshoreI'm a healer/healer :P
23:00.13AdremmaPrimer: well, the entry for hunter - melee damage should serve as a sanity check for that
23:01.24Primerwell, there's only 5 voters so far...4 of which are authors :)
23:01.45onaforeignshoreanyway, as purl says, it's late :p
23:01.52Primerhehe everyone hates rogues :)
23:01.52onaforeignshoresee you all later! have fun!
23:02.29onaforeignshore~ugt
23:02.30purlhmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
23:02.39Repo10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r210 Locales (7 files in 1 directory): Convert to use wowace localization system.
23:03.11Groktarwhy so much hate for feral dps?
23:03.24Primerhey, I gave it a 4
23:03.47koaschtenwannabe rogues ^^
23:04.11Stanzillaferal dps is the hardest to play!
23:04.29Groktarand ele shaman lower than enhancement shaman?
23:04.33Groktarenhancement is like
23:04.38Groktarthe shittiest in the game
23:05.29Groktarso bad that our enh shaman for all of wotlk finally rerolled dk
23:05.42Groktarand did more dps on the dk than the shaman within two weeks of hitting 80 :(
23:05.42PrimerI find it odd how blue posts talks about "interesting stats" (hit, in this case), and saying how you have to work at maintaining such stats, while they're continually dumbing the game down
23:06.09Groktarhehe
23:06.35Groktari like the way that they're talking about making all tanks uncrittable by default in cat
23:06.42Groktarwhy not just make mobs not crit
23:06.44Groktar:p
23:09.32pentium166because then you won't have mobs turning around and getting a crit for 50,000 on some rogue or shaman
23:09.38pentium166and we can't have that
23:09.38Fisker~ uft
23:10.00Fisker~uft
23:10.06Fiskerfu purl
23:10.08Fiskerfffffffffuuuuuu-
23:11.36Megalonficker u, Fisker
23:11.41Megalonfisker
23:11.43Megaloni mean :<
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23:24.56ckknightI rearranged the http://www.wowace.com/polls/your-level-of-respect-for-wow-classes-by-archetype/ poll choices to be easier to see the breakdown of tank vs. damage vs. healer
23:25.08chiperhas anyone heard anything about blizz fixing the problem with mobs constantly trying to get behind the tank?
23:25.23Fiskernot had the problem for a while myself
23:25.32NeoTronit's not fixed afaik
23:25.56KriLL3I still have it, but I work around it
23:26.01KriLL3*rimshot*
23:26.06chiperI remember it happening in back in 2.x and they fixed it, but ever since 3.3 it's been bitting us literally int he ass
23:26.38AeyanHunter melee damage? =P
23:26.41KriLL3chiper: seems to happen if you move a bit too far from the mob, the key is to stand fairly close
23:26.45NivFreakchiper: they claimed it fixed, it's not
23:27.24NivFreakI assumed I just hadn't gotten a restart after the hotfix, but they did end up rebooting us twice since then, and nothing
23:27.49chiperso there was a blue post claiming it to be fixed?  cause I couldnt even find that
23:27.55NivFreakyea, let me find it
23:28.23KriLL3well if blue says it's fixed, it's fixed, right? any and all issues after that are "working as intended"
23:29.42orionshockKriLL3: no, don't trust anything you read on the forums from anyone even blue. HOwever you can trust blue more than green and green more than white :)
23:30.09KriLL3orionshock: it's called sarcasm
23:30.26orionshockhehe, so was mine :)
23:30.42KriLL3well you can't really trust blues...
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23:32.53chiperwell I did finally find a thread on the EU forums about this http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11824374057&postId=118231610991&sid=1#68
23:33.50chiperah, ok, found GC's response on it
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23:34.14chipermind you, it was a month ago
23:36.25NivFreakhrmm, I couldn't find the respone that said it was hotfixed
23:36.31NivFreakwhich is odd
23:36.48chiperall I see are blue posts saying "a fix is coming"
23:37.08NivFreakI read one specifically that said it was fixed
23:37.20NivFreakunless it was bibi lying ;)
23:40.46KriLL3chiper: did they add "soon"?
23:40.54KriLL3SC2 will also be out "soon"
23:41.01Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6923 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): add locale
23:41.03chipernope, no soon™
23:41.12KriLL3so it's longer than soon :<
23:41.18chiperlol
23:41.32KriLL3http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon win
23:41.59KriLL3"'Soon' does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future."
23:43.09NivFreakthat bug sucks ass, but I've been able to do anub25h w/ it just fine (as the add tank)
23:43.37chiperif it's just one or two ads it's not too much of a problem
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23:43.50chiperbut when I'm tanking trash packs of 5 or more in heroics, it seriously sucks
23:43.58NivFreakhave you tanked anub on 25h? :P
23:44.11PrimerAnyone know if it's possible to obtain a character's calendar? I know the iphone has an app that can do this, but it seems it's actually made by blizz
23:44.18NivFreak4 adds at a time, all 400% hasted in speed
23:44.24NivFreakor is it 800%? I forget
23:44.26chiperI've done the adds on normal
23:44.33chiperbut not on heroic, no
23:44.42NivFreakit's night and day :)
23:45.02NivFreakthe most obnoxious place might be if you have to move saurfang for some reason
23:45.15NivFreakyou just can't get him turned properly afterward
23:45.16NivFreakhehe
23:50.14Xinhuan[07:48:58] [2. Trade] [Littlewand]: gs is for nubs that dont know how to get spec approriate gear
23:50.14Xinhuan[07:48:59] [2. Trade] [Humanenemy]: This GearScore era will end soon. New mod that's 10x better and just released.
23:50.23Xinhuan[07:49:16] [2. Trade] [Littlewand]: whats it called
23:50.23Xinhuan[07:49:24] [2. Trade] [Humanenemy]: Elitist Group, Check it up on wowinterface
23:50.35Xinhuani'm not sure if i should facepalm or laugh
23:50.43Funkeh`sigh
23:50.51Funkeh`If I wanted it fucking translated
23:50.58Funkeh`I would have added it to the translation tabl
23:51.02Funkeh`retarded fucking koreans
23:51.47Xinhuanbut but koreans can put out 600 apm!
23:54.04Shadowedhahaha Xinhuan
23:54.10Shadowedthat's hilarious
23:54.36ShadowedFunkeh`: Poor you, what happened now?
23:55.01Funkeh`useless translating of an alpha mod

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