| 00:00.05 | Gnarfoz | 01:00:01|MrPlow: MrPlow begins a full rework of your bank |
| 00:01.30 | Shefki | MrPlow says very nice bank, nom nom nom. |
| 00:02.30 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: is it infinite looping? |
| 00:02.35 | orionshock | Torhal: you should post somewhere that the per-addon forums are by request |
| 00:02.48 | WobWork | orionshock: how do you request them? |
| 00:02.52 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: don't think so? nothing's moving :> I fixed it by hand already |
| 00:02.53 | WobWork | I just had the option there already... |
| 00:03.04 | Torhal | orionshock: I responded to your forum message with that info. |
| 00:05.32 | Repo | 10critic: 03Zeksie * r11 / (3 files in 2 directories): Fix pkgmeta (was missing LibSharedMedia) |
| 00:05.34 | Repo | Added DK and Shaman hit talent modifiers. |
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| 00:12.57 | Antiarc | okay |
| 00:12.59 | Antiarc | The addon works |
| 00:13.01 | Antiarc | And it is awesome |
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| 00:13.28 | Antiarc | also it was a lot more wokr than I'd anticipated |
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| 00:15.14 | WobWork | Antiarc: SexyBuffs? |
| 00:15.17 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: wut? http://paste.wowace.com/1589/ |
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| 00:16.19 | Antiarc | Blessed, yeah |
| 00:16.53 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: does it communicate with PP? |
| 00:17.03 | Antiarc | No comms yet. |
| 00:17.08 | Antiarc | Just all the local buff logic is handled. |
| 00:17.19 | Antiarc | I don't know that I'll support PP, though |
| 00:17.30 | Antiarc | The PP protocol is one of the biggest reasons I'm writing my own |
| 00:17.41 | Gnarfoz | if you want it to ever gain any ground, you'll have to :p |
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| 00:18.20 | Gnarfoz | I've not met anyone, ever, who used anything besides PP for their blessings management =( the only other alternative I've encountered is "nothing" ;D |
| 00:19.38 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: is that happening after a reload? |
| 00:19.42 | Hjalte_ | I just plugged in a wireless router I borrowed. I have a wired connection from the router to my PC. It shouldn't slow down my internet, should it? |
| 00:19.46 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: yes |
| 00:20.03 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: I reload continually each time after QA has emptied my mailbox, to speed up the process |
| 00:20.24 | Gnarfoz | @describe uprank |
| 00:20.25 | Repo | Gnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/uprank/. UpRank. Update spells that are not max rank |
| 00:20.29 | Gnarfoz | ahaha |
| 00:20.29 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:20.54 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: have you got any special bags, or any new item in your inventory you didn't before? |
| 00:21.18 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: 2 inscription bags equipped (the other 2 are in my inventory)) |
| 00:21.34 | Hjalte_ | Ah, my internet speed seems to be back to normal. http://www.speedtest.net/result/670980530.png. Is there anything else I should think about, in regards to gaming? |
| 00:21.55 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: I know I'll probably have to support it in some form |
| 00:21.56 | Antiarc | But ugh |
| 00:21.58 | Antiarc | It's ugly |
| 00:22.00 | Gnarfoz | Hjalte: as long as your PC doesn't have wireless... well |
| 00:22.01 | Antiarc | It's really, really ugly |
| 00:23.19 | Hjalte_ | Gnarfoz: No, I kept a wired connection for my pc on purpose. But I'm thinking about ports and such. Right now there are no rules - does it then just allow everything through? |
| 00:23.36 | Gnarfoz | wut? *confused* |
| 00:23.56 | Gnarfoz | if you don't use the WLAN, turn it off |
| 00:24.54 | Hjalte_ | Gnarfoz: I do, for my phone :) |
| 00:25.56 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: what happens when you move the inscription bags out of your inventory? |
| 00:26.18 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: I have no clue, why would that affect anything o_O |
| 00:26.23 | Gnarfoz | also, the error only occured once =) |
| 00:26.46 | Gnarfoz | they're only items in my inventory, like anything else (I hope? :D) |
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| 00:32.11 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r206 / (3 files in 2 directories): Add a wider range of icons to select from. |
| 00:33.02 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: yeah, just trying to track down anomalies |
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| 00:42.01 | Axodious | anyone know of a mod that i can use for hysteria that basically works the same way as a focus macro? i just don't want to use the focus frame for it >_< |
| 00:42.35 | Shadowed | I'm going to go with "no" |
| 00:43.04 | Axodious | /sadface |
| 00:43.56 | Axodious | someone in guild came up with a good idea |
| 00:43.58 | Axodious | clique |
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| 00:50.39 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: wut? O_O http://paste.wowace.com/1590/ |
| 00:50.48 | Gnarfoz | attempt to yield across metamethod/C-call boundary: |
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| 00:56.45 | WobWork | are you hammering the sort button or something? =P |
| 01:03.04 | Antiarc | Axodious: /cast [target=Joe] Hysteria - works as long as Joe is in your raid. |
| 01:03.40 | WobWork | or clique will work |
| 01:04.12 | koaschten | Axodious would be smarter to just use /cast [@focus] Hysteria and put your hsteria target in focus |
| 01:04.24 | Antiarc | He said he didn't want to use the focus frame for it |
| 01:04.51 | koaschten | i ignored it because its stupid, why wouldn't you use the focus for something that useful? ;) |
| 01:05.39 | WobWork | because it's a single instance event |
| 01:06.13 | WobWork | You can use Hysteria on different targets depending on circumstances |
| 01:06.23 | Antiarc | I just use a mouseover macro for Tricks |
| 01:06.45 | WobWork | Hysteria is different to aggro redirection |
| 01:07.02 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.06 | Antiarc | Tricks is a damage boost. |
| 01:07.16 | Antiarc | First cast is on the tank, subsequent casts are on a DPS |
| 01:07.28 | koaschten | that looks like my macro Antiarc :D |
| 01:07.41 | Antiarc | That's what I use, has worked just fine since beta |
| 01:07.54 | koaschten | just that i target directly to overide the focus instead of mouseover |
| 01:07.55 | WobWork | hysteria will damage the target =) |
| 01:08.01 | koaschten | tricks will too |
| 01:08.07 | koaschten | if the tank suxx ;) |
| 01:08.29 | koaschten | damn did we have fun in that one run with 7 rogues |
| 01:08.32 | WobWork | not the same though |
| 01:08.39 | WobWork | that's increased damage intake |
| 01:08.40 | koaschten | and the off warrior yelled for tricks for damage boost |
| 01:08.47 | koaschten | so we chained tricks on him |
| 01:08.47 | WobWork | Hysteria is guaranteed 30% health loss |
| 01:08.55 | koaschten | till sartahrion splatted him |
| 01:09.00 | koaschten | :D |
| 01:09.14 | koaschten | that was after the 3 adds were dead, mind you |
| 01:09.27 | koaschten | damn thats been long ago |
| 01:09.31 | koaschten | gets nostalgic. |
| 01:09.32 | Antiarc | slow damage taken is pretty inconsequential with raid healers |
| 01:09.33 | WobWork | why did he pull aggro? =P |
| 01:09.55 | koaschten | WobWork cause 7 rogues chained tricks on him while using their dps cooldowns? ;) |
| 01:10.09 | WobWork | oh ha |
| 01:10.10 | koaschten | when it still stacked both components |
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| 01:10.16 | koaschten | back in 3.0 |
| 01:10.31 | koaschten | he saw some 9-10k dps and then imploded |
| 01:10.33 | koaschten | :D |
| 01:10.37 | WobWork | silly offtank |
| 01:10.46 | WobWork | tricks are for kids =P |
| 01:10.57 | koaschten | most fun was shadow priests with rolling sw:p on patchwork |
| 01:10.59 | Repo | 10blessed: 03Antiarc 07master * a8bfa58 Blessed.lua: [+1 commit] Basically rewrote the whole thing, yay. Is now pretty much usable for self-usage; doesn't do comms yet, but the whole buff selection and application bit all works right. |
| 01:11.05 | koaschten | they always ask for it but are not in range -.- |
| 01:11.41 | WobWork | ugh, I played my DK for the first time in ages |
| 01:11.45 | WobWork | since patch |
| 01:11.57 | WobWork | I have kitted out my shaman in both dps/heal t9 |
| 01:12.07 | WobWork | my DK's dps is so terrible |
| 01:12.18 | WobWork | maybe I should look to DW |
| 01:12.37 | WobWork | cause I don't want to tank >< |
| 01:12.40 | koaschten | Antiarc on a quest to make more addons obsolete since 2005? gearscore, KLHTM ... damn there must be more |
| 01:12.59 | koaschten | and now pallypower? |
| 01:13.04 | koaschten | ;) |
| 01:13.23 | Antiarc | Forte Xorcist, every minimap addon, other chat addons... :P |
| 01:13.35 | koaschten | i am using blizzard default ! |
| 01:13.36 | WobWork | Antiarc: Refactoring Crap Since 2007 |
| 01:13.36 | Gnarfoz | koaschten: EG is just as bad as GS |
| 01:13.39 | koaschten | (minimap that is) |
| 01:14.02 | WobWork | koaschten: you should be using SexyMap! |
| 01:14.09 | Gnarfoz | also, SexyMap is worthless for anyone with something else than a circular minimap |
| 01:14.13 | koaschten | i dont like the circling bling |
| 01:14.20 | koaschten | so what does sexymap do beside that? |
| 01:14.22 | WobWork | although I was dragging the lfd eye around my sexymap |
| 01:14.25 | WobWork | and it got stuck |
| 01:14.28 | Gnarfoz | hide minimap buttons that I don't have anyway? lol |
| 01:14.30 | WobWork | and I reloaded |
| 01:14.33 | WobWork | and it disappeared |
| 01:14.40 | WobWork | =( |
| 01:14.53 | Gnarfoz | also, there's been other attempts to obsolete PP, none succeeded so far. :P |
| 01:15.01 | WobWork | so I couldn't teleport out |
| 01:15.18 | koaschten | zomgbuffs might have been very popular, but noone could convince paladins to drop pp for it |
| 01:15.24 | koaschten | "its too complicated" |
| 01:15.29 | Gnarfoz | because it did way more than PP? |
| 01:15.32 | Gnarfoz | obvious fail |
| 01:15.39 | Antiarc | Sexymap does a lot of stuff |
| 01:15.41 | WobWork | feature creep is a terrbile thing |
| 01:15.42 | koaschten | whats complicated about an addon that automatically assigns blessings for you and auras |
| 01:15.47 | Antiarc | And sexymap can be any shape, not just a circle |
| 01:15.53 | Antiarc | koaschten: You'd be surprised, heh |
| 01:15.54 | Gnarfoz | except it does shit for all classes, koaschten |
| 01:15.55 | Adremma | koaschten: judging by our paladins, everything |
| 01:16.04 | SunTsu | koaschten: I use ZOMG, but communication with PP looks flawed |
| 01:16.17 | Gnarfoz | also, who said an addon knows what I want? automation ftl |
| 01:16.19 | koaschten | Adremma so they like to adjust minor blessings for every offspec? |
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| 01:16.43 | Adremma | koaschten: they shouldn't be, normally we have 5+ paladins and they still can't figure things out |
| 01:16.47 | koaschten | i'd get sick of that within my first raid if i had a paladin |
| 01:17.00 | Gnarfoz | I know why I want certain players to buff certain things, mostly I do kings myself because I don't die in fires |
| 01:17.03 | elite3vil | Anyone know of an addon that's good at tracking kitty druid debuffs? |
| 01:17.04 | koaschten | 5 paladins in a 25man`? |
| 01:17.08 | koaschten | your lineup is flawed ;) |
| 01:17.18 | Adremma | yes. yes it is. |
| 01:17.19 | Gnarfoz | so people who die in fires at least have kings when they get rezzed :p |
| 01:17.47 | koaschten | duuh Gnarfoz and i just started to wonder since when buffs fade if the person that applied it dies.... |
| 01:18.07 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 01:18.32 | Gnarfoz | also, 5 paladins is not flawed at all, you can have all raid buffs and still have 8 slots or something for whatever you like :p |
| 01:18.42 | koaschten | on my pet druid i run this bloated "feral by night" but if you just want to track uptime... try eventhorizon? |
| 01:18.46 | Gnarfoz | go stacked raids! |
| 01:19.13 | Adremma | yeah, except we don't have all raid de/buffs |
| 01:19.14 | koaschten | guess i am a bit against stacked raids, because it always means, less rogues |
| 01:19.24 | Adremma | partially because the paladins tend to be divided 2 prot/3+ holy |
| 01:19.27 | WobWork | pally buffs disappear if the pally dies, wut? |
| 01:19.34 | koaschten | hahahaha |
| 01:19.37 | Gnarfoz | WobWork: they don't, of course :p |
| 01:19.43 | elite3vil | Thanks koaschten. :) |
| 01:20.07 | Gnarfoz | koaschten: why would it mean that? that'd totally depend on the situation |
| 01:20.18 | koaschten | no, the raidleader ;) |
| 01:20.57 | koaschten | whats the reason for running 2 dps warrior, 2 kitties and 3 dks and 1 rogue? + prot warrior and bear |
| 01:21.08 | Adremma | but, yeah. give me a good alternative to PP/ZOMG, I'd mandate it |
| 01:21.09 | koaschten | drop those kitties and dps warriors |
| 01:21.15 | koaschten | they dont add anything of value |
| 01:21.52 | koaschten | the best pallypower/zomg replacement would just scan the specs of the raid, do a clever assignment, broadcast it and be good to go |
| 01:22.23 | koaschten | and honestly, zomg isn't that bad if you play more than one buff-enabled class |
| 01:22.34 | Antiarc | I really like zomg a lot, but it's not a PP replacement for me |
| 01:22.35 | koaschten | it allows you to run 1 mod for all classes |
| 01:22.38 | Antiarc | It serves a somewhat different function |
| 01:23.02 | elite3vil | How so? |
| 01:23.21 | Antiarc | I primarily tend to use it for beacon/sacred shield/crusader aura when mounted, that kind of thing |
| 01:23.23 | koaschten | it nags me about poisons on my rogue, fel armor on my warlock, armor and shout on my dk, buffs on my priest |
| 01:23.30 | Antiarc | I don't like the one-button-buff display for the whole raid |
| 01:23.34 | Adremma | I sorta like that (especially since I've a druid main but still somehow wind up being the one managing blessings) about zomg, but it's not worth the headache it's been recently |
| 01:23.42 | WobWork | shout on your dk? |
| 01:23.48 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v0.8-beta-10-gdf1fa61 modules/users.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 01:23.50 | koaschten | that ap buff thing |
| 01:23.50 | Repo | df1fa61: Experimenting with equipment display changes, removed the checkmark/X for gear, instead coloring the text red if it's invalid, changed to showing the item level if there are no enhancement issues with an item |
| 01:23.51 | Antiarc | horn |
| 01:23.51 | Repo | de0176b: Fixed spacing for the database, players name won't go outside the frame |
| 01:23.57 | koaschten | yeah thx Antiarc |
| 01:24.03 | WobWork | I guess it's a 'shout' =P |
| 01:24.14 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/dGSvX.jpg |
| 01:24.20 | Antiarc | That's the addon in the lower left |
| 01:24.21 | koaschten | guess i play it too little.. 200 dailys done at lvl74, 3 levels via jc daily i guess ^^ |
| 01:24.30 | Antiarc | The addon is basically your self buffs, plus a button per class in the group |
| 01:24.45 | Antiarc | Mouse over a class, get a popout of its members, or alt-mouseover to choose a greater blessing for that class |
| 01:24.52 | Antiarc | Can select singles for a person by mousing over them |
| 01:24.52 | Shadowed | weird |
| 01:24.58 | Shadowed | why do role icons show |
| 01:25.00 | Shadowed | you aren't in a heroic |
| 01:25.04 | Antiarc | I was |
| 01:25.12 | Shadowed | Odd though they went away |
| 01:25.16 | Antiarc | Apparently not |
| 01:25.29 | koaschten | the more interesting question is... whats that abomination in the top right? |
| 01:25.35 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:25.39 | Antiarc | RaidBuffStatus. It's amazing. |
| 01:25.50 | Antiarc | It figures out if literally anything is missing from anyone in the raid |
| 01:25.54 | Antiarc | I'm the raid buff asshole |
| 01:26.05 | Antiarc | Ctrl-click to whisper people to tell them to buff what's missing. It's amazing. |
| 01:26.16 | koaschten | so its kinda a bloated XRS? |
| 01:26.16 | Antiarc | It disappears in combat, no worries :P |
| 01:26.27 | Antiarc | I dropped XRS because it was so bloated, heh |
| 01:26.31 | Antiarc | Maybe it's better nowadays |
| 01:26.38 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v0.9-beta * 16b3fba /: [new tag] Tagging as beta 0.9 |
| 01:26.50 | koaschten | its not been developed for more than a year when moonsorrow quit wow ;) |
| 01:27.00 | elite3vil | RaidBuffStatus is amazing. |
| 01:27.01 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r207 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 01:27.03 | Repo | Add ability to enable and disable plugins from showing on the map in the HandyNotes options. |
| 01:28.31 | koaschten | Someone should start a column on wowace or curse about addon developers and their used addons and why they use them, might become interesting :) |
| 01:28.57 | Shadowed | hahaha |
| 01:29.00 | Shadowed | oh god |
| 01:29.03 | koaschten | especially talking about pro/contra of some alternatives ;) |
| 01:29.04 | Shadowed | that would be hilariously awful |
| 01:29.15 | Xinhuan | gearscore: why you use it |
| 01:29.17 | Xinhuan | lolol |
| 01:29.27 | koaschten | because i am too lazy to armory people, obviously |
| 01:30.02 | koaschten | experience, elitistgroup ... why are(n't) they better? |
| 01:30.19 | Shadowed | Gearscore is going to be amusing when the author releases his new version |
| 01:30.24 | Shadowed | with even more terrible ineffiencies than before |
| 01:30.27 | koaschten | after all they are just... stop, we had this discussion before christmas, no? |
| 01:38.06 | steev | god i hate leveling mining |
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| 01:46.39 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude * r440 / (2 files in 1 directory): anti-phishing update |
| 01:47.41 | Repo | 10bad-boy: 03funkydude 04v4.0.3.4 * r441 : Tagging as v4.0.3.4 |
| 01:47.57 | Repo | 10blizzmove: 03yess * r15 BlizzMove.lua: Make the raid browser movable |
| 01:50.33 | Shadowed | mm what was the bug with gearscore that caused it to crash again |
| 01:50.41 | Shadowed | it got stuck into an infinite loop of sending addon messages? |
| 01:53.14 | Silowyi | so I think for the expansion I'm going to switch from JC/enchanter to BS/engineer XD |
| 01:54.40 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: is that important now that that version is banned? ^^ |
| 01:54.51 | SunTsu | Shadowed: as far as I am concerned, GearScore could get stuck in it forever ;) |
| 01:55.02 | Shadowed | Not really, just curious |
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| 02:03.03 | Ingela^ | now sweden are gonna pwn the US |
| 02:05.27 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 02:05.54 | Ingela^ | sweden - us in icehockey |
| 02:06.23 | Ingela^ | it's JVM |
| 02:06.36 | Gnarfoz | Jwhat? |
| 02:06.58 | Ingela^ | WM? |
| 02:06.58 | Ingela^ | :D |
| 02:07.03 | Ingela^ | uhm |
| 02:07.06 | Ingela^ | what the hell is it on english |
| 02:07.11 | Ingela^ | world championship |
| 02:07.14 | Ingela^ | JWC! |
| 02:07.24 | Ingela^ | junior |
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| 02:08.12 | Silowyi | I would be willing to bet the number of people who care about JWC ice hockey in this room is even less than the number of people that care about curling... |
| 02:08.33 | Silowyi | though, I do like curling... |
| 02:08.40 | Ingela^ | i like curling too! |
| 02:14.59 | Repo | 10bank-items: 03Xinhuan * r154 BankItems.lua: |
| 02:15.01 | Repo | Items with the same name but with different itemIDs (such as heroic and non-heroic versions of the same item) are now treated as different items in the tooltips. |
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| 02:25.15 | Groktar | nibbles on Znuff's left ear |
| 02:25.30 | Znuff | eww |
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| 02:26.12 | Groktar | bites it off and spits it at Whitetooth |
| 02:27.24 | mojosdojo | @describe blessed |
| 02:27.25 | Repo | mojosdojo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Intelligent, slim paladin blessing management |
| 02:36.12 | WobWork | basically Antiarc is saying PP is dumb and fat =( |
| 02:36.53 | Groktar | i'm suspicious by any antiarc mod that doesn't have sexy in the name |
| 02:36.58 | Groktar | is this one *not* sexy? |
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| 02:38.41 | orionshock | anyway to modify the totem bar to cast a totem from the fly out with a modifier click? |
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| 02:39.35 | steev | uh oh |
| 02:39.35 | steev | This project has an abnormal status: Changes required. |
| 02:39.35 | steev | Your project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use. |
| 02:39.41 | quiescens | run awai |
| 02:40.06 | Antiarc | It's alpha |
| 02:40.11 | Antiarc | It doesn't need a description yet |
| 02:40.19 | quiescens | excuses |
| 02:40.39 | Groktar | leaps at quiescens' neck, biting and tearing ferociously |
| 02:40.44 | quiescens | dies. |
| 02:40.45 | orionshock | Antiarc: just don't turn into ckknight with your addons. |
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| 02:41.03 | Antiarc | How so |
| 02:41.11 | Antiarc | If you mean "write and then forget about" that's already me |
| 02:41.14 | orionshock | Great Awesome Abandoned addons |
| 02:41.18 | Antiarc | I write addons for myself, and then just happen to share them with you all :P |
| 02:41.25 | Antiarc | The ones I use I maintain |
| 02:41.30 | Antiarc | The ones I don't I accept patches for |
| 02:41.42 | ckknight | abandons orionshock |
| 02:43.32 | orionshock | not trying to be being mean ckknight :) they are still great addons |
| 02:44.27 | Megalon | urban legends say ckknight once did Fisker and abandoned him |
| 02:44.48 | ckknight | nah, I never completed him, Megalon |
| 02:44.55 | ckknight | just let him out in the wild a bit early |
| 02:45.22 | Megalon | damn you |
| 02:45.31 | Megalon | for creating the anti-matter to common sense! |
| 02:45.45 | Ingela^ | common sense is not so common |
| 02:46.39 | Megalon | and it's all Fisker's fault |
| 02:46.53 | Ingela^ | fisk means fish in swedish |
| 02:46.57 | Ingela^ | i smell conspriacy |
| 02:48.09 | Megalon | smells to fishy if you ask me |
| 02:50.38 | ckknight | so his name means "Fisher"? |
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| 03:06.58 | Vanish | I don't suppose anyone is in here that has access to user accounts for the forums? |
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| 03:20.02 | Repo | 10grid-status-res: 03Phanx * r55 / (13 files in 2 directories): (Message trimmed by 1 line) |
| 03:20.04 | Repo | - Proper update for GridModule -> Grid:GetModule("GridModule") |
| 03:20.05 | Repo | - Condense all translations to a single file; it's pointless to have individual files with only 4 translations! |
| 03:20.06 | Repo | - Get rid of useless embeds.xml and reference libs from the TOC with no-lib-strip tags |
| 03:20.07 | Repo | - Remove empty libs directory; the packager will add it if it's needed |
| 03:40.43 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r208 / (3 files in 1 directory): |
| 03:40.44 | Repo | Add the ability to create/change/copy/delete profiles in HandyNotes. HandyNotes was already using Ace3 profiles, just that this wasn't exposed. |
| 03:41.36 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6921 / (4 files in 2 directories): Citadel: Tweak some plagueworks bosses. |
| 03:41.38 | Repo | Core: toc bump. |
| 03:44.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r6922-release * r6922 : Tagging as r6922-release |
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| 03:50.21 | Hjalte | Can anyone tell me why my forum looks like this http://afterlife-eu.com/ after moving to its new website? I did redo the config.php file. I manually transfered the mysql tables and files. ACP works fine. |
| 03:53.29 | Megalon | Error: The stylesheet http://afterlife-eu.com/style.php?id=2&lang=en&sid=d3e8b1c0a72ab33626acbc66475af89b was not loaded because its MIME type, "text/html", is not "text/css". |
| 03:53.29 | Megalon | Source File: http://afterlife-eu.com/ |
| 03:53.29 | Megalon | Line: 0 |
| 03:55.21 | Hjalte | Stupid phpmyadmin doesn't seem to export all tables |
| 03:55.27 | Hjalte | That might be the problem, I suppose. |
| 04:00.55 | Hjalte | Megalon: I just restored the forum via the ACP restore feature. You have any ideas? It still messes up the style. |
| 04:10.50 | Hjalte | Seems it's the style that is the problem. I can use one of the other styles and everything works fine, but Arrow style doesn't work at all. Same files and same database. Meh. |
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| 04:27.15 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r209 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 04:27.17 | Repo | Notes without a title will now show "(No Title)" as the tooltip title rather than have no tooltip on mouseover. |
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| 04:49.10 | Antiarc | http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49 |
| 04:52.54 | kandarz | Antiarc: little too much time on reddit I think |
| 04:54.51 | Antiarc | It's what I read between pulls! |
| 05:08.25 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/tekkrush/. tekKrush. Tekkub (Manager/Author). Approved by Tekkub. |
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| 05:15.07 | Megalon | weeee |
| 05:15.09 | Megalon | installed :7 |
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| 05:36.17 | Repo | 10loremstr (experimental): 03Scisto * r56 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 05:36.19 | Repo | Added LRM DB Module initialization code, not a working module |
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| 05:40.48 | Myrroddin | onaforeignshore up late or early? |
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| 06:00.05 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh * r2488 / (2 files in 2 directories): v5.09.03 |
| 06:01.09 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Daviesh 04v5.09.03 * r2489 : Tagging as v5.09.03 |
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| 06:41.36 | asmodai | mmm |
| 06:41.41 | asmodai | so I enabled taintlog |
| 06:41.45 | asmodai | but where should I see details? |
| 06:41.57 | asmodai | Only got the failed because of an addon message |
| 06:42.39 | Repo | 10quickstrat (experimental): 03naver * r5 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added some sample strats. |
| 06:42.41 | Repo | Added the ability for a strat to span multiple lines. |
| 06:42.42 | Repo | Added a prefix to stat announcements. |
| 06:42.44 | Repo | The first work on a GUI element. |
| 06:47.48 | orionshock | asmodai: wow/logs/taintlog.txt |
| 06:54.30 | Shadowed | @project quickstrat |
| 06:54.32 | Repo | Shadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/quickstrat/. QuickStrat. Game: WoW. Status: Requesting experimental. naver (Manager/Author). Updated: 11 minutes ago |
| 06:54.37 | asmodai | holy crap, when you use 2 (since I initially didn't see anything) it can fill up quickly :) |
| 06:54.43 | Shadowed | yea |
| 06:55.09 | Shadowed | You should be able to debug most issues with 1 though |
| 06:55.40 | asmodai | ah |
| 06:55.47 | asmodai | We get to blame AntiArc |
| 06:56.32 | asmodai | 1/4 07:40:55.860 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from SexyCooldown - SetMultiCastSpell() |
| 06:56.34 | asmodai | 1/4 07:40:55.860 Interface\FrameXML\MultiCastActionBarFrame.lua:530 MultiCastFlyoutButton_OnClick() |
| 06:56.37 | asmodai | 1/4 07:40:55.860 MultiCastFlyoutButton3:OnClick() |
| 06:56.58 | asmodai | So I cannot switch totems on the fly in combat due to that :( |
| 06:57.14 | orionshock | asmodai: is that with or with out embedded libs? |
| 06:57.53 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.31 | Arrowmaster | totem bar stuff |
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| 07:00.17 | Repo | 10little-wigs: 03Ammo * r714 Dalaran/The_Violet_Hold.lua: |
| 07:00.19 | Repo | improve portal handling for violet hold, ulic/yoshimo please fix this in the trsnslator thing as well. |
| 07:00.41 | orionshock | asmodai: something tells me that -that taint log is not usefull, as it dosn't give the dive into SexyCooldown |
| 07:02.07 | Arrowmaster | you need to use taintlog 2 to get more accurate info |
| 07:02.40 | Shadowed | what |
| 07:02.44 | Shadowed | the taint log is quite useful |
| 07:03.36 | Shadowed | I seriously doubt it's SexyCooldowns anyway |
| 07:03.40 | Shadowed | unless Antiarc is doing some weird stuff |
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| 07:06.33 | Shefki | Can anyone think of any other items that grant honor besides the two Commendations (arena and Wintergrasp)? |
| 07:07.22 | Shadowed | three |
| 07:07.29 | Shefki | three? |
| 07:07.32 | Shadowed | AP, WG marks, stonekeepers shard |
| 07:07.49 | Shadowed | unless you were counting both WG ones as one |
| 07:07.50 | Shefki | Last two give the same item. |
| 07:07.54 | Shefki | Same exact item id. |
| 07:07.57 | Shefki | Just different currency. |
| 07:08.39 | Shefki | Which surprised me since inthe past they couldn't do that. |
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| 07:17.42 | orionshock | Shadowed, asmodai i have SexyCooldown and BT4, and im playing on a shammy. i do not have problems switching totems and then dropping the new one in combat |
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| 07:45.26 | orionshock | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/dungeonspeedrunner.aspx#643519 |
| 07:45.28 | orionshock | ...? |
| 07:48.38 | quiescens | o.O |
| 07:49.55 | quiescens | so what are you! |
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| 08:11.09 | orionshock | quiescens: ? |
| 08:13.22 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.2-beta-2-gb831c6a DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 08:13.24 | Repo | b831c6a: add announce options & revamp the Announce() call |
| 08:13.25 | Repo | 2c11556: remove currentInstance/lastInstance locals as they are no longer needed b/c of the brag() options |
| 08:15.50 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka * r67 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+] Added fix for Icecrown Citadel |
| 08:16.32 | Repo | 10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 04v2.8.1 * r68 : Tagging as v2.8.1 |
| 08:23.24 | sb|work | ahm so... does anyone know about the shadowmourne quest items? (rotface, festergut) is it 1 item / raid (like val'any shard) or for every player with that quest? (well its a "quest item" *shrug*) |
| 08:25.19 | Shefki | sb|work: Good question. |
| 08:25.20 | theoddone33 | good question |
| 08:25.53 | theoddone33 | hopefully we'll know on tuesday |
| 08:26.08 | Shefki | We will. |
| 08:27.27 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r289 / (2 files in 2 directories): Fix Ticket 56 |
| 08:31.16 | asmodai | orionshock: mmm |
| 08:32.02 | sb|work | hmm okay :o |
| 08:32.44 | sb|work | (the other question is if it is a 100% drop, because there are also those 40, 50, .. dont know shards to be collected later |
| 08:32.59 | sb|work | so would make sense to have those things to be 100% *shrug* but yea, we will see ;) |
| 08:34.19 | sb|work | but the first few quests lead to the epic axe i think, so no reason to make it that random (or actually force you to decide who gets epic axe/legendary later) |
| 08:35.27 | sb|work | honestly, i don't want to decide this week who will get the legendary :p |
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| 08:36.32 | asmodai | orionshock: That strange, wonder what's up then. |
| 08:36.49 | asmodai | orionshock: bt4 also threw quite a high number of recurring taints |
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| 08:43.43 | sb|work | bah, i wanna go home already.. :p |
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| 08:48.46 | evl | sb|work: it's higher dropchance in heroic 25 |
| 08:50.06 | sb|work | what are you talking about? :o |
| 08:50.25 | sb|work | "shards" or festergut/rotface quest item (first quest in that line i think, that will lead you to epic axe) |
| 08:51.05 | Shefki | sb|work: I heard it's a higher drop chance if you do ICC as opposed to sitting in Dalaran. |
| 08:51.56 | Wobin | lies |
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| 08:52.37 | Shefki | Wobin: Ok you caught me. GC dressed up as a fairy hands you one in Dalarn. |
| 08:54.29 | sb|work | :/ |
| 08:55.05 | digmouse | you shake hands with GC, you DC |
| 08:55.28 | Wobin | He promised me a PONY |
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| 09:02.37 | asmodai | wobin! |
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| 09:03.26 | Wobin | asmodai! |
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| 09:06.20 | sb|work | i already have a pony! :o |
| 09:11.05 | Shefki | Wobin: He gave you a pony... |
| 09:11.08 | Shefki | I have mine. |
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| 09:15.31 | orionshock | asmodai: i'd grep your addon folder for SetMultiCastSpell and see what turns up |
| 09:23.16 | Arrowmaster | nothing will be found |
| 09:23.24 | Arrowmaster | its the blizzard code calling it that is tainted |
| 09:24.42 | Arrowmaster | like i said, a 'taintlog 2' is required to get any useful information from the taintlog, just 'taintlog 1' gives you what part of the blizzard code is tainted and not what tainted it |
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| 10:02.10 | asmodai | Arrowmaster: I do have a taintlog 2, but at home |
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| 10:05.24 | asmodai | I could at least repeat it in every fight, so that's good. I mean, less than 100% reproducibility would suck |
| 10:06.07 | Shefki | In Soviet Russia, bugs reproduce you. |
| 10:09.21 | sb|work | whats wrong with soviet russia? :o |
| 10:09.45 | Wobin | In Soviet Russia, nothing wrongs -you- |
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| 10:15.59 | asmodai | heh |
| 10:16.20 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Taiwan? Never knew you are/were Taiwanese or living there :) |
| 10:16.37 | Whitetooth | asmodai: yeah I'm Taiwanese :) |
| 10:17.09 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Hah, cool. Got a Taiwanese friend visiting me in Spring as it stands now. |
| 10:17.19 | asmodai | Still need to visit there sometime soon as well. |
| 10:17.47 | Whitetooth | cool, its really hot here in the summer |
| 10:18.12 | asmodai | Hahaha, must be quite similar to Hong Kong or most of Japan I guess |
| 10:18.38 | asmodai | High humidity? |
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| 10:18.50 | Whitetooth | very high |
| 10:19.16 | Whitetooth | it rains almost everyday |
| 10:20.20 | Whitetooth | the subtropical rain forests and the beaches are the best tho |
| 10:23.15 | orionshock | how does one understand ElitestGroup's interface? |
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| 10:23.58 | asmodai | Whitetooth: yeah, one of the reasons I avoided Japan in summer. |
| 10:25.22 | Whitetooth | asmodai: at least japan gets to play with some snow, we never see any snow ever |
| 10:25.58 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.10 | Wobin | (or more specifically, Beijing...) |
| 10:26.33 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Yeah, May and Nina were quite surprised at my photos of snow here. |
| 10:26.41 | asmodai | (two of my Taiwanese friends) |
| 10:27.11 | Whitetooth | I used to live in Iowa when I was a kid, I loved the winter |
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| 10:32.23 | Fisker | it's cold Wobin |
| 10:32.25 | Fisker | BRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 10:33.13 | asmodai | Whitetooth: But you went back to Taiwan? |
| 10:33.24 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Must be quite the change I reckon. |
| 10:33.59 | Whitetooth | yeah it was preety hard at first, language problems...etc |
| 10:34.39 | Whitetooth | but its been almost 20 years in Taiwan already |
| 10:35.59 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.2-beta-3-gb2c17ed DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] add more debug in. fix LDB On click, yet again. add current instance run time to brag() |
| 10:36.02 | asmodai | Still like how Taiwanese write æ with a proper å¿ in the middle, as opposed to simplified. |
| 10:36.46 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 04v0.3-beta * bb0cee8 /: [new tag] add more options, revamp stuff |
| 10:37.02 | Whitetooth | yeah the Chinese fucked up their characters preety bad |
| 10:37.22 | Whitetooth | I can't read any of it |
| 10:37.40 | Bruners | Fisker: indeed it's cold! |
| 10:39.32 | asmodai | Whitetooth: Some simplifications make sense, but some shouldn't have changed since they lose context. I mean, you also have é with å¿ in it, meaning something like smothering, which you can imply via the pictorial association. Granted, that doesn't apply to all kanji/hanzi. |
| 10:42.42 | Fisker | slaps Bruners around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:43.00 | Whitetooth | asmodai: yes, simplification makes sense in an engineering way, but the characters have been in use for over 2000 year |
| 10:46.49 | Wobin | hehe |
| 10:46.51 | Wobin | 'love' |
| 10:46.58 | Wobin | (HEARTLESS LOVE) |
| 10:48.14 | Wobin | hm, I need a better looking font that can render chinese |
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| 10:49.42 | sb|work | i need a better brain that can render chinese :o |
| 10:49.56 | Wobin | of course, one that doesn't crash the irc would be good too |
| 10:50.08 | Wobin | hm, this one actually has brushstrokes |
| 10:50.53 | Wobin | Ah, GuLim Che |
| 10:50.58 | Wobin | that's kinda readable |
| 10:52.04 | Wobin | goes with Meiryo UI 10 |
| 10:53.28 | sb|work | hm, in soviet russia, meiryo UI 10 goes with you |
| 10:53.31 | sb|work | ha! got it now... :p |
| 10:57.39 | sb|work | @describe uprank |
| 10:57.41 | Repo | sb|work: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/uprank/. UpRank. Update spells that are not max rank |
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| 10:59.03 | Fisker | u prank sb|work |
| 10:59.07 | olafski | just checking.. if I include the Ace libraries in my addon but they are already loaded by another addon, they won't take up memory twice right? |
| 10:59.35 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 10:59.59 | olafski | I got a "complaint" about my addon after adding ace, that it suddenly takes up over 1MB of memory |
| 11:00.13 | olafski | when I monitor the addon, it's not even on the list, but I guess that's because Ace is listed separetly |
| 11:00.19 | olafski | separately* |
| 11:01.09 | olafski | this guy apparently found it so important that he switched back to an old version to get rid of ace |
| 11:02.12 | Wobin | which Ace library are you using? |
| 11:02.16 | Wobin | cause 1MB? |
| 11:02.57 | olafski | aceaddon, aceconfig, aceconsole, acedb, acedboptions, aceevent, acegui |
| 11:03.03 | nevcairiel | you should just ignore those people |
| 11:03.08 | olafski | and then callbackhandler and libstub, not sure if those are part of the ace framework |
| 11:03.23 | olafski | well, his comment on my addon page makes the addon look bad :< |
| 11:03.57 | nevcairiel | so delete it =P |
| 11:03.58 | olafski | bbl :< |
| 11:04.41 | olafski | that seems kinda harsh btw.. maybe he'll keep spamming then |
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| 11:06.37 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.3-beta-1-g1a2a376 DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] fix oddity if you have nothing selected to announce. |
| 11:08.16 | orionshock | users talking about Lib Mem usage are like idiot drivers talking about adv car mechanic work.. it's just the sort of thing you ignore till they go away, or get a 2x4 to assist the problem in going away. |
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| 11:11.41 | yoshimo | does the create addonpack option on curse work for anyone of you? if i proceed to tagging, curse breaks |
| 11:12.55 | asmodai | Wobin: gulim is a korean font though. |
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| 11:13.00 | asmodai | Wobin: Might not get full coverage. |
| 11:13.19 | asmodai | Wobin: SimSum or Meiryo might be a bit better, depending if you lean more towards Chinese or Japanese. |
| 11:14.04 | Wobin | asmodai, my retention of chinese is not high enough that I need full coverage =) |
| 11:14.07 | asmodai | nevcairiel: btw, you aware of this often recurring taint bt4 throws out? Furthermore, first idea seems to point out SexyMap as culprit, however, someone else here tried it without issues. Need a full taintlog 2 tonight to see what's going on. |
| 11:14.13 | asmodai | Wobin: *grin* |
| 11:14.26 | Wobin | Meryo is a nice font to read though, in comparison |
| 11:15.11 | asmodai | It's been designed from the ground up to have Japanese and latin characters fit good together. |
| 11:15.21 | asmodai | Something that always looked mismatched in many other asian fonts |
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| 11:25.21 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r290 modules/StatusReadyCheck.lua: Try to fix Ticket 57. |
| 11:29.05 | onaforeignshore | Myrroddin: It's 11:29am here |
| 11:29.23 | Myrroddin | it is 4:29 am here |
| 11:29.39 | Myrroddin | and i *just* got the keybindings to work about 3 mins ago |
| 11:30.14 | SunTsu | ~ugt |
| 11:30.15 | purl | ugt is, like, Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 11:30.45 | onaforeignshore | lol SunTsu |
| 11:33.27 | Fisker | ~uft |
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| 11:37.44 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r54 / (3 files in 1 directory): keys bind for ressers now |
| 11:37.48 | Repo | they do not bind for non-ressers, as intended |
| 11:37.49 | Repo | removed some duplicate code |
| 11:37.50 | Repo | TESTERS: DELETE YOUR SVs OR RESET PROFILE TO DEFAULT |
| 11:39.20 | asmodai | nevcairiel: and btw, those memory prices went wild for KHX1600C8D3T1K2/4GX |
| 11:46.57 | nevcairiel | asmodai: wild up? |
| 11:46.57 | nevcairiel | hm pretty much the same here |
| 11:46.57 | nevcairiel | about ~100 for the T1 and 110 for the other |
| 11:51.19 | asmodai | nevcairiel: yea, up |
| 11:51.31 | asmodai | said it was EUR 90-100, right? |
| 11:51.39 | asmodai | they're almost all now around the EUR 140 range |
| 11:51.54 | asmodai | nevcairiel: and saw my earlier note about tainting? |
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| 12:32.01 | nevcairiel | asmodai: i'm at work, i miss half of the stuff :P |
| 12:37.50 | Megalon | he's a working one |
| 12:38.01 | Megalon | someone get a wooden peg and the silver bullets! |
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| 12:43.20 | asmodai | nevcairiel: so am I, but I has scrollback buffers :P |
| 12:44.37 | nevcairiel | but im on a phone! |
| 12:45.01 | asmodai | You never said that! |
| 12:45.23 | nevcairiel | company network is quite restricted |
| 12:45.52 | sb|work | so we can DoS your phone by sending you irc messages! (fisker can do that) |
| 12:46.03 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Quick recap: yes, the totem bar (for me) taints. Pointed at SexyMap at first. But also looking at the log it shows bt4 having often recurring taints, always the same it seemed. |
| 12:46.03 | sb|work | or even hack your phone! :p |
| 12:46.27 | asmodai | nevcairiel: Need to reset the log and taintlog 2 it again tonight and see what happens. |
| 12:46.29 | nevcairiel | the irc is proxied until it reaches my phone |
| 12:46.31 | sb|work | asmodai: i don't have taint issues with sexymap + BT4 |
| 12:46.38 | mitch0 | nev: can't you tunnel out? |
| 12:46.57 | asmodai | Wait |
| 12:47.01 | asmodai | s/SexyMap/SexyCooldown |
| 12:47.03 | sb|work | mitch0: i guess they won't like that if they restrict the network like that ;p |
| 12:47.19 | nevcairiel | I could probably setup some http tunnel of sorts |
| 12:47.23 | nevcairiel | but i dont really care |
| 12:47.23 | asmodai | 1/4 07:40:55.860 An action was blocked in combat because of taint from SexyCooldown - SetMultiCastSpell() |
| 12:47.29 | nevcairiel | my phone is good enough for some chatting |
| 12:47.35 | nevcairiel | <3 motorola milestone |
| 12:47.38 | mitch0 | sb: they don't need to know about it :) |
| 12:47.39 | asmodai | 1/4 07:40:55.860 Interface\FrameXML\MultiCastActionBarFrame.lua:530 MultiCastFlyoutButton_OnClick() |
| 12:47.45 | asmodai | 1/4 07:40:55.860 MultiCastFlyoutButton3:OnClick() |
| 12:48.04 | nevcairiel | as others said, need a log 2 until we can determine the cause of the taint |
| 12:48.10 | sb|work | mitch0: proxy log will tell + lots of traffic on ssl proxy :p |
| 12:48.19 | mitch0 | sb: not lots |
| 12:48.20 | asmodai | I guess the fastest way is to disable SexyCooldown and repeat my totem thing and see if it still fails? |
| 12:48.21 | nevcairiel | cant use an ordinary ssl connect proxy |
| 12:48.34 | nevcairiel | they have a smart firewall that analyses ssl traffic |
| 12:48.39 | nevcairiel | only allows pure http requests |
| 12:49.03 | nevcairiel | there are tunnels that operate over pure http |
| 12:49.05 | nevcairiel | but i cba |
| 12:49.15 | nevcairiel | HSDPA is fast enough here :d |
| 12:49.36 | asmodai | nevcairiel: and yes, will do the taint 2 tonight, which I did this morning as well, but after the fact IIRC, but showed a shitload of repeating bt4 taints though. |
| 12:49.54 | nevcairiel | bt4 taints alot of stuff to do its magic |
| 12:49.57 | nevcairiel | nothing breaking, though |
| 12:50.05 | asmodai | ok, so expected behaviour? |
| 12:50.27 | nevcairiel | it works for others, so some other addon must be doing it |
| 12:50.58 | yoshimo | mhm im not experienced in firewalls, but if the ssl connection is crypted, what can the firewall do against that? |
| 12:51.01 | asmodai | Aye, will check. |
| 12:51.10 | nevcairiel | yoshimo: uncrypt it |
| 12:51.22 | nevcairiel | ssl man-in-the-middle firewalls are a bitch |
| 12:51.47 | nevcairiel | they send you their own cert, decrypt, analyse, encrypt with the servers cert and send to the internet |
| 12:51.52 | yoshimo | mhm, didnt man in the middle only work if the user fails and accepts wrong certs? |
| 12:51.59 | nevcairiel | well yes |
| 12:52.02 | nevcairiel | but what choice do i have |
| 12:52.06 | nevcairiel | cant avoid it :P |
| 12:52.18 | nevcairiel | it does show you a untrusted cert |
| 12:52.21 | nevcairiel | on ssl connections |
| 12:52.57 | asmodai | hugs his university network |
| 12:53.37 | nevcairiel | I should just hook up my workstation to my phone via usb tethering |
| 12:53.55 | nevcairiel | wonder if that would screw with my AD authenticaten, ha |
| 12:54.05 | nevcairiel | s/caten/cation/ |
| 12:55.54 | asmodai | I assume /console taintlog 0 turns it off again? I mean, I do taintlog 2, do my thing, then 0 to only have that part captured? (BEfore I wind up with too much info to sift through) |
| 12:56.07 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 12:56.20 | nevcairiel | be aware that it doesnt blindly append the log |
| 12:56.28 | nevcairiel | a restart of the client will overwrite it, afaik |
| 12:56.34 | nevcairiel | unless its off, of course |
| 12:57.03 | asmodai | That's ok |
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| 12:58.26 | KriLL3 | oh man, my brother uses xUF... |
| 12:58.42 | nevcairiel | wtf is xUF |
| 12:59.04 | KriLL3 | x-perl unit frames, dunno if it has another acronym/shorthand |
| 12:59.19 | sb|work | yea, x-perl :p |
| 12:59.24 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 12:59.26 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r291 modules/StatusReadyCheck.lua: Really fix Ticket 57 |
| 12:59.36 | KriLL3 | well it's horrible |
| 13:00.25 | KriLL3 | who thought making the layout a bunch of gray/brown squares was a good idea? |
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| 13:04.01 | asmodai | KriLL3: no one ;) |
| 13:04.10 | asmodai | No wait, that's not quite true. |
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| 13:06.22 | KriLL3 | my brother is a bit weird, he uses very few addons and the few he does use are old/bad etc, I can't get him to use actioneer for one instead of manually checking prices, and he always runs around with bags full of random junk, meat trade goods, and random quest items, he never has more than 10 free slots in his bags, and he has nothing on the bank |
| 13:06.49 | asmodai | Heh, all my bank slots are filled :( |
| 13:07.01 | asmodai | Need to check if the bags I use there are the biggest available |
| 13:07.10 | KriLL3 | my OCD forces me to keep my 22 slot bag inventory at least half empty |
| 13:07.18 | asmodai | Even use some miner/jeweler bags |
| 13:07.23 | KriLL3 | there are 24 slot bags for a bunch of money |
| 13:07.30 | asmodai | Heh, as a shaman I always carry my full resto kit along |
| 13:07.38 | KriLL3 | I'm feral =P |
| 13:07.45 | KriLL3 | I got tanking, dps and pvp sets |
| 13:08.02 | asmodai | And I cannot throw away any of my separate totems, even though I have ones that combine all four to one >_< |
| 13:08.11 | asmodai | meaning I lose space in my bank already |
| 13:18.49 | sb|work | KriLL3: actioneer is evil :p |
| 13:19.00 | KriLL3 | sb|work: perhaps, but it saves time |
| 13:19.20 | sb|work | yea, but its like installing 30 stupid addons not used in any other addon :o |
| 13:19.24 | sb|work | addons=libs |
| 13:19.40 | yoshimo | sb|work, why is it evil? only because you dont need all of its functions? |
| 13:19.50 | KriLL3 | I don't use the bulk of the features, only the improvements to the browsing and the improved addon posting thing |
| 13:19.52 | sb|work | yoshimo: because i have to install all that stuff :p |
| 13:20.09 | KriLL3 | I've killed a lot of it's modules |
| 13:20.24 | KriLL3 | but yes I recall there being an auctioneer lite in the past, can't find it now |
| 13:20.58 | sb|work | KriLL3: for browsing / posting (+undercut) i use auctionator |
| 13:21.33 | KriLL3 | I'll check that one out, I do notice quite a performance drop with auctioneer, why isn't it LOD? |
| 13:22.01 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r105 / (10 files in 1 directory): first version |
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| 13:22.31 | yoshimo | is there an addon which lets me move the statisticframe in bgs? |
| 13:23.28 | sb|work | BeanCounter, Enchantrix, Enchantrix-Barker, Informant, SlideBar, Stubby, Babylonian, DebugLib, Configator, LibExtraTip, TipHelper <-- yoshimo - thats my problem with auctioneer :p |
| 13:23.41 | asmodai | taints nevcairiel via Fisker |
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| 13:24.50 | yoshimo | sb|work , you could also have them as one big addon , and embedded ;) |
| 13:26.56 | KriLL3 | hmm, blizzard have only made instance maps for the LK instances, nothing, zip, nada in TBC/Vanilla |
| 13:27.08 | KriLL3 | lazy bastards |
| 13:27.24 | yoshimo | KriLL3, cataclysm should fix that for classic wow ;) |
| 13:27.30 | asmodai | rofl |
| 13:27.57 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: a bit weird imo that they didn't think to include the boss locations, though yssbossloot fixes that |
| 13:28.24 | asmodai | I wonder if Yssaril would be open to add more loot tables. |
| 13:28.41 | yoshimo | what do you mean with "more loot tables"? |
| 13:28.43 | asmodai | I still keep AtlasLoot around for the old stuff as well as the argent tournament and such things. |
| 13:28.48 | KriLL3 | also the maps are handled weirdly, can't put handynotes on em |
| 13:28.50 | asmodai | Unless I missed something |
| 13:29.02 | yoshimo | divide them into 10/25 normal/hm? |
| 13:29.05 | KriLL3 | I use atlasloot as my loot browser, don't use atlas anymore though |
| 13:29.22 | KriLL3 | only use yssbossloot for boss locations/names =P |
| 13:29.38 | KriLL3 | I use it as a glorified handynotes module |
| 13:29.41 | asmodai | lol |
| 13:30.44 | KriLL3 | btw spent some time in LBRS and BRD yesterday for darkmoon faire frog pet and the spider and worg pets, man blizzard liked to make confusing instances |
| 13:31.04 | nevcairiel | you didnt know those instances before? |
| 13:31.05 | KriLL3 | I spent a lot of time down there in vanilla, and I still got lost |
| 13:31.11 | KriLL3 | I did, but it's ages ago |
| 13:31.34 | Megalon | brd is the most awesome instance |
| 13:31.38 | Megalon | more bosses than any raid |
| 13:31.40 | yoshimo | blackrock is ok, maraudon and wailing caverns i think are more evil ;) |
| 13:31.42 | KriLL3 | karazhan takes the cake though |
| 13:31.43 | asmodai | didn't |
| 13:32.00 | asmodai | dropped out around level 35 my first time around back in 1.8 or so |
| 13:32.18 | KriLL3 | kara is horribly complicated |
| 13:32.28 | asmodai | Yeah, got lost in Kara :S |
| 13:32.35 | nevcairiel | kara isnt so bad |
| 13:32.36 | KriLL3 | BRD is also, with it's key, the grim guzzler, and all other silly multi route stuff |
| 13:32.48 | nevcairiel | it has one major route you follow |
| 13:32.58 | KriLL3 | flow chart of BRD: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/7/7e/BRDFlowchartMap.jpg tell he that isn't complicated |
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| 13:33.13 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: well there are a bunch of shortcuts, optional bosses etc |
| 13:33.30 | asmodai | KriLL3: wtf, an instance requiring a flowchart :| |
| 13:33.44 | KriLL3 | asmodai: you don't remember BRD? |
| 13:33.46 | nevcairiel | it doesnt require it tbh :P |
| 13:34.01 | KriLL3 | oh and to get the quest for the key you need to be DEAD outside the instance and talk with an NPC there |
| 13:34.15 | KriLL3 | twice |
| 13:34.23 | asmodai | KriLL3: Never done it |
| 13:34.28 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 13:34.43 | asmodai | I mean, strolled through for brewfest or something else |
| 13:34.44 | KriLL3 | I used my "naked" equipment set and took a swim in the lava to get the quest... |
| 13:34.45 | asmodai | but no |
| 13:34.51 | pentium166 | The best part about that is that you're dead dead and not pretending to be dead like the one in tanaris |
| 13:35.03 | pentium166 | But the guy doesn't even care that you're dead |
| 13:35.08 | KriLL3 | the lava hits you for 600 dmg... took a while to die, and to remove motw also |
| 13:35.31 | asmodai | Nice how Ragefire Chasm is in the dungeon finder btw as Alliance :) |
| 13:35.35 | KriLL3 | pentium166: yeah a bit weird that he asks for help from a dead guy |
| 13:36.01 | asmodai | I never understood the logic of that |
| 13:36.50 | KriLL3 | main issue with a lot of those complicated vanilla instances is that there isn't a clear route to follow, you have to figure it out for yourself and when you do hit a locked door you can't open it's up to you to figure out how to get it open, it's a bit like Zelda... |
| 13:37.30 | KriLL3 | that key quest for instance, is it referenced anywhere? |
| 13:37.40 | KriLL3 | or do you have to spot the NPC while corpse running? |
| 13:37.52 | asmodai | I like their more recent designs, there's a flow you follow |
| 13:37.58 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 13:38.01 | asmodai | and the end boss generally brings you quite easily back to the entrance |
| 13:38.07 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 13:38.19 | KriLL3 | when you finish BRD by killing the last boss you're stuck there |
| 13:38.30 | KriLL3 | and back then where wasn't mage portals (I think) |
| 13:38.35 | KriLL3 | HS is the only quick way out |
| 13:38.42 | asmodai | ughn |
| 13:38.46 | yoshimo | or suicide ;) |
| 13:38.51 | KriLL3 | true |
| 13:38.53 | asmodai | Which were on a 1 hour cooldown too :) |
| 13:39.01 | KriLL3 | though level 50 mobs take ages to kill me even naked =P |
| 13:39.06 | pentium166 | I managed to get stuck behind the "naxxramas" portal gate in Stratholme once |
| 13:39.18 | pentium166 | with my hearthstone down |
| 13:39.29 | KriLL3 | moonglade teleport is a life saver |
| 13:39.33 | KriLL3 | no cooldown |
| 13:39.46 | KriLL3 | you end up in moonglade, like 6mins flight from TB, but still |
| 13:39.51 | Megalon | well |
| 13:39.55 | Megalon | Lyceum |
| 13:39.59 | Megalon | the hardest encounter |
| 13:40.04 | Megalon | in all of vanilla wow :P |
| 13:40.21 | pentium166 | I played for like a year and a half before I ever did the lyceum or emperor |
| 13:40.25 | Megalon | brd is just awesome |
| 13:40.26 | KriLL3 | you mean the zillion mobs, torch bearers and 2 fires you had to light? |
| 13:40.32 | Megalon | yes |
| 13:40.37 | pentium166 | Got an Ironfoe for my rogue the first time I killed him though |
| 13:40.52 | KriLL3 | was a bit less intimidating as level 80 with swipe =P |
| 13:41.12 | KriLL3 | but I had to actually check wowhead to figure out how to get past that room |
| 13:41.25 | Megalon | :D |
| 13:41.35 | KriLL3 | I checked for someone with a torch, but the flame keepers don't wield em, they just drop em |
| 13:42.04 | Megalon | and the whole quest |
| 13:42.08 | Megalon | to free the princess |
| 13:42.16 | KriLL3 | main aspect of that instance that confused me is that half of it is completely inaccessible without the key |
| 13:42.20 | Megalon | and after the quest, you can go there again and kill her |
| 13:42.22 | KriLL3 | even if it's just a couple of meters away |
| 13:42.26 | Megalon | and she then has her own loot tabl |
| 13:42.27 | Megalon | e |
| 13:42.33 | KriLL3 | horde doesn't have that quest I think |
| 13:42.50 | KriLL3 | though she was friendly once I killed the boss |
| 13:42.53 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=4004 |
| 13:43.08 | KriLL3 | hmm she didn't offer it |
| 13:43.24 | yoshimo | maybe your missing a prequest? |
| 13:43.32 | Megalon | it starts in kargath |
| 13:43.32 | KriLL3 | very possible |
| 13:43.37 | KriLL3 | ah yes |
| 13:43.53 | Megalon | you have to go to the cell blocks |
| 13:44.03 | Megalon | free a guy, kill a few mobs, orgrimmar and back |
| 13:44.15 | KriLL3 | isn't it a human you free there? remember doing that as alliance |
| 13:44.19 | Megalon | brd was the one instance |
| 13:44.24 | Megalon | if you were there the 5th time |
| 13:44.29 | Megalon | you still had quests in it :D |
| 13:44.39 | Megalon | it's an orc as horde |
| 13:44.53 | KriLL3 | it's cool and all, but it's horribly confusing and sprawling, they should have split it into multiple instances |
| 13:45.03 | Megalon | and then you go 'ask' a dwarf |
| 13:45.24 | KriLL3 | also a bit weird that you can gain rep with the dark irons in there |
| 13:45.29 | Megalon | I so want that instance on heroic |
| 13:45.29 | KriLL3 | and some of then are neutral |
| 13:45.31 | Megalon | with all the bosses |
| 13:45.35 | Megalon | and everything |
| 13:45.36 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 13:45.38 | yoshimo | i have done loremaster recently and still, brd isnt completely done ;) |
| 13:46.04 | KriLL3 | you don't earn towards loremaster in instances |
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| 13:46.46 | KriLL3 | they could re-do it in segments, would be cool |
| 13:47.04 | yoshimo | like halls of reflections, pit of saron and forge of souls? |
| 13:47.09 | KriLL3 | imagine scarlet monastery as one instance... that's why I prefer split instances |
| 13:47.17 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: yes |
| 13:47.22 | KriLL3 | or a bunch of older ones |
| 13:47.37 | KriLL3 | also it shouldn't have like 5 different routes |
| 13:47.48 | pentium166 | it's a city! yes it should! |
| 13:48.06 | KriLL3 | well if it does have more than one route... make it clearer as to which goes were |
| 13:48.13 | KriLL3 | street signs perhaps? |
| 13:48.14 | pentium166 | back in my day etc. |
| 13:48.16 | KriLL3 | a guide? |
| 13:48.18 | yoshimo | there is only one route through brd krill ;) open all doors, jump down in the lava, and swim to the exit ;) |
| 13:48.36 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: that misses a lot of quests and bosses though |
| 13:49.08 | yoshimo | yes, indeed, but most of the time people only need the mc attunement, and therefore its the fastest rout |
| 13:49.09 | yoshimo | e |
| 13:49.13 | nevcairiel | there is one route that does all of brd in one run |
| 13:49.25 | nevcairiel | but unless you leave the instance in between, you cant do all quests in it |
| 13:49.26 | KriLL3 | true, though isn't MC attunement optional now? |
| 13:49.43 | yoshimo | im not sure, but the bloodelf only ports you if you did the quest i think |
| 13:49.50 | Megalon | http://www.wowhead.com/?npcs&filter=cr=6:32;crs=1584:1;crv=0:0#0+2+1 |
| 13:49.51 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: that route doubles back on itself and is fairly long though right? =P |
| 13:50.02 | Megalon | 41 bosses in one instance |
| 13:50.14 | yoshimo | i still think street signs in wailing caverns would be great ;) |
| 13:50.24 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 13:50.27 | nevcairiel | to be fair, some of thoses bosses are in one encounter |
| 13:50.32 | nevcairiel | like the council of 7 or what it was called |
| 13:50.37 | nevcairiel | and the arena can have different bosses |
| 13:50.45 | KriLL3 | I wonder how cata will change the old instances, a lot of them aren't really relevant after the changes |
| 13:50.58 | nevcairiel | and the random dark keeper in the vault |
| 13:50.58 | KriLL3 | also the grim guzzler has a lot of those NPCs |
| 13:51.13 | Megalon | that's more bosses than wotlk before IC :D |
| 13:51.15 | KriLL3 | and they're not really bosses |
| 13:51.52 | yoshimo | grim guzzler is only relevant if you want to do the seasonal event there ;) |
| 13:51.58 | nevcairiel | there is about 20 boss encounters in brd |
| 13:52.01 | nevcairiel | more or less |
| 13:52.17 | KriLL3 | LBRS is even more confusing in it's way, I only know how to get through it by jumping at certain places, not even sure if you can do it without knowing that |
| 13:52.18 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r55 / (3 files in 1 directory): fixed a typo with clearing the key bindings |
| 13:52.19 | Megalon | 35 without the key keepers |
| 13:52.19 | Repo | fixed Xenobios' name in localization. my apologies! |
| 13:52.34 | nevcairiel | KriLL3: you can do lbrs just fine |
| 13:52.38 | Megalon | 29 with council |
| 13:53.01 | nevcairiel | you just have to double back at the ogres |
| 13:53.05 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: or if you need a mug of dark iron ale for the jubling pet =P |
| 13:53.09 | nevcairiel | and follow the road down to the trolls |
| 13:53.18 | pentium166 | they should have made BRM, BRS, and BRD one instance imo |
| 13:53.24 | KriLL3 | I thought you had to jump down to get to the trolls and to the bottom floor? |
| 13:53.26 | pentium166 | also blackwing lair |
| 13:53.34 | nevcairiel | nah, there is a stairway |
| 13:53.43 | KriLL3 | heh, I've never seen it =P |
| 13:54.00 | nevcairiel | how did you get back out again? |
| 13:54.01 | KriLL3 | I remember doing stealth runs in there back in the day |
| 13:54.21 | KriLL3 | HS, didn't think there was a way to actually get out from the last boss' room |
| 13:54.28 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 13:54.33 | nevcairiel | nah you can get out just fine |
| 13:54.48 | KriLL3 | though it's just as far going back right? =P |
| 13:54.50 | sb|work | Myrroddin: so smartres2 now actually works? :P (works as in you can use keybindings to auto-res) |
| 13:54.51 | KriLL3 | lovely design |
| 13:55.06 | nevcairiel | of course, you usually dont run out of an instance anyway |
| 13:55.12 | nevcairiel | the quick exit was only added in TBC |
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| 13:55.17 | nevcairiel | classic instances dont usually have it |
| 13:55.32 | KriLL3 | I know, you were meant to HS I guess |
| 13:55.33 | sb|work | BFD had it |
| 13:55.41 | Myrroddin | sb|work yes indeed |
| 13:55.41 | sb|work | but its alliance only now :o |
| 13:56.25 | Myrroddin | the collision bars don't change to red (or user pref) yet. they stay green. and the time counts UP, not down, but other than that, it works |
| 13:56.34 | KriLL3 | I'm glad blizzard have stopped making hugely complicated instances, though I wish they'd stop making black morass type portal encounters |
| 13:56.35 | pentium166 | one thing that was awesome about BRS is the parts in upper where you could fall into lower |
| 13:57.04 | KriLL3 | black portal, VH, CoS is enough |
| 13:57.04 | nevcairiel | hehe yeah |
| 13:57.09 | pentium166 | or out of the instance entirely |
| 13:57.12 | Myrroddin | i really want people to test the auto and manual res keys and let me know, especially with the auto, if it is picking targets properly |
| 13:57.28 | sb|work | KriLL3: HoR!? :p |
| 13:57.34 | KriLL3 | ah right sorry |
| 13:57.46 | KriLL3 | though that's an even more diabolical variety |
| 13:58.04 | KriLL3 | I wonder if blizz balanced it with the LoS corner method in mind, if they didn't they're fucking evil |
| 13:58.04 | nevcairiel | its really two instances in one |
| 13:58.04 | nevcairiel | there is no way to run both without completly doubling back |
| 13:58.04 | nevcairiel | kinda weird |
| 13:58.26 | nevcairiel | its not that hard really |
| 13:58.28 | nevcairiel | just CC some |
| 13:58.36 | KriLL3 | DPS doesn't CC anymore |
| 13:58.42 | nevcairiel | maybe they should |
| 13:58.45 | KriLL3 | and they're undead, less CC |
| 13:59.00 | nevcairiel | can still shackle, ice trap, or even root the melees |
| 13:59.01 | KriLL3 | heh gl getting a dmg meter obsessed DPS player to CC anything |
| 13:59.19 | KriLL3 | doesn't palas have some UD CC also? |
| 13:59.24 | sb|work | fear |
| 13:59.40 | Myrroddin | sb|work are you willing to test? |
| 13:59.51 | KriLL3 | I usually do HoR with my brother's hunter, he ice traps the hunters and misdirects the mages, makes thinks a lot easier |
| 13:59.58 | sb|work | Myrroddin: later, i'm at work :p |
| 14:00.11 | Myrroddin | LOL well, i need sleep, then i work |
| 14:00.16 | KriLL3 | runs where no one CCs is very different |
| 14:00.30 | nevcairiel | just use the LoS then, no CC required |
| 14:00.31 | krka | what? they still make complicated dungeons like nexus, i always get lost there :( |
| 14:00.31 | Myrroddin | and because of that, i can't raid during the week, unless i pug |
| 14:00.35 | KriLL3 | and paladin healers in there are fail |
| 14:00.39 | nevcairiel | nexus is so easy |
| 14:00.46 | nevcairiel | just start on the left and follow the roads |
| 14:00.55 | nevcairiel | i like getting nexus in random dugeon |
| 14:01.00 | nevcairiel | fast 5 badges |
| 14:01.02 | KriLL3 | nevcairiel: well most LoS at first but then run out, making it mostly useless, or they go to different corners etc |
| 14:01.21 | KriLL3 | nexus is good though imo boring, Gundrak is my favorite |
| 14:02.10 | KriLL3 | and most players don't take HoR seriously "durr it's an HC, how hard can it be?" there is reason why it drops 232 iLVL gear... |
| 14:02.45 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, isn't it 7 badges |
| 14:02.51 | KriLL3 | healer just throws hots on me, then he gets stunned twice in a row by a marauder and 2x footmen zerk on me... |
| 14:03.06 | KriLL3 | no chance in hell |
| 14:04.33 | KriLL3 | and dps doesn't CC anything, and don't kill the damn rogue first even though he got a skull mark |
| 14:04.49 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: 5+extras |
| 14:04.56 | KriLL3 | and thinks it's just dandy that the priest heals their target over and over |
| 14:05.00 | Xinhuan | that still makes it 7 :) |
| 14:05.44 | KriLL3 | I don't need anything bought by triumph anymore, so I get 2x ice once a day, don't run any more HCs than that |
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| 14:06.26 | KriLL3 | I might if there was some scheme to downgrade 1 triumph to 2 of a much lower for hairlooms/mammoth etc but 1:1 sucks |
| 14:06.43 | KriLL3 | don't feel like farming 200 triumph marks for a mount... |
| 14:06.50 | Xinhuan | 10 triumphs = 100g on my server KriLL3 :P |
| 14:06.57 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 14:07.03 | Xinhuan | epic gems |
| 14:07.08 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 14:07.23 | Xinhuan | so doing 2 heroics gives you at least 100g |
| 14:07.24 | KriLL3 | I'm honor capped, so I buy a pile of gems every now and then |
| 14:07.32 | Fisker | Blizzard might as well go sell emblems |
| 14:07.33 | Fisker | :D |
| 14:07.38 | Xinhuan | which is pretty decent |
| 14:07.45 | Xinhuan | and can usually be done under an hour |
| 14:07.46 | KriLL3 | I got like 20 epic gems, can't get any of them sold, since everyone else got a stack of em |
| 14:08.04 | KriLL3 | same with enchanting mats, everyone got a ton |
| 14:08.20 | KriLL3 | since we disenchant a metric ton of loot every day |
| 14:08.22 | Xinhuan | enchanting mats are still expensive |
| 14:08.26 | KriLL3 | and there are no new enchants |
| 14:08.26 | Xinhuan | not sure why |
| 14:08.50 | Xinhuan | infinite dust ~3g, dream shards ~10g and abyss about 30g on my server |
| 14:09.03 | KriLL3 | prices on my server have crashed |
| 14:09.14 | KriLL3 | but they're still not getting sold =P |
| 14:09.28 | Xinhuan | it must mean your server doesn't have many raiding guilds |
| 14:09.40 | KriLL3 | the LFD tool has really had an impact on the economy |
| 14:09.48 | KriLL3 | it does |
| 14:09.54 | asmodai | hey there Xinhuan |
| 14:09.55 | Xinhuan | there's like 15 on my server on alliance alone |
| 14:10.02 | Xinhuan | and another 20 on horde |
| 14:10.13 | sb|work | raiding or "raiding"? |
| 14:10.15 | Xinhuan | by raiding, i mean guilds that try hard modes |
| 14:10.18 | sb|work | okay |
| 14:10.19 | sb|work | :p |
| 14:10.29 | Xinhuan | and at least 20 pug raid groups form too |
| 14:10.30 | Xinhuan | GKPs |
| 14:10.37 | asmodai | hasn't touched Hex at all over the past x months |
| 14:10.37 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r56 / (3 files in 1 directory): pushing new localizations and updates |
| 14:10.39 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: well the problem is that no one needs enchanting mats, since everyone already got a bank full |
| 14:10.39 | Repo | giving credit to new translator |
| 14:11.00 | nevcairiel | random pugs produce way too many enchant mats |
| 14:11.07 | nevcairiel | especially with the enchant roll button |
| 14:11.09 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 14:11.28 | KriLL3 | I don't bother with that button on items that don't produce abyss anymore |
| 14:11.35 | KriLL3 | I just press greed and sell at a vendor, less hassle |
| 14:12.37 | Xinhuan | right now there's a larger supply only because everyone's doing the heroic daily for the frost badges |
| 14:12.49 | Xinhuan | once you start swimming in frost badges, nobody will do the daily anymore |
| 14:13.00 | KriLL3 | man I wish the target dummies hit back for no dmg or something like that, hard to test dps in bearform with no rage... |
| 14:13.05 | onaforeignshore | I don't have that many mats, cause I'm enchanting gear the whole tiem |
| 14:13.05 | nevcairiel | that will be a while, still |
| 14:13.14 | Xinhuan | its like voa, nobody even does it anymore |
| 14:13.17 | Xinhuan | until new season |
| 14:13.22 | Myrroddin | good night everybody. see you on the flip side |
| 14:13.25 | KriLL3 | errm you need like 200 frost emblems to get all the gear |
| 14:13.30 | onaforeignshore | night Myrroddin |
| 14:13.34 | KriLL3 | no one is getting that in ages |
| 14:13.39 | Xinhuan | i already have 142 KriLL3 |
| 14:13.46 | Xinhuan | and tomorrow new wing |
| 14:13.48 | asmodai | has 17 and I am not doing a random a day |
| 14:13.50 | Xinhuan | that's an additional 16 more per wing |
| 14:13.52 | KriLL3 | I'm fairly certain that's an impossibility |
| 14:13.58 | Xinhuan | its possible KriLL3 |
| 14:14.20 | Xinhuan | 14 per week from heroic daily, 8 from ICC10, 8 from ICC25, 5 from weekly raid quest = 35 a week |
| 14:14.31 | Xinhuan | and add 6 more from the initial ICC5 chain |
| 14:14.39 | KriLL3 | hmm |
| 14:14.41 | Xinhuan | that's 4 weeks in total for a total of 146 |
| 14:14.54 | Xinhuan | i missed a day or 2 of dailies, so i only have 142 |
| 14:14.59 | asmodai | did that this past week, random heroic (ToC) plus ICC5 got me like 5-6 pieces of gear XD |
| 14:15.03 | KriLL3 | I don't do ICC so |
| 14:15.16 | asmodai | from drops alone I mean |
| 14:15.20 | Xinhuan | once 2nd wing in ICC opens, there's another 16 per week |
| 14:15.25 | Xinhuan | for a total of 51 per week |
| 14:15.32 | Xinhuan | you'll be SWIMMING in frost badges in 2 months |
| 14:15.36 | Xinhuan | i have over 700 triumphs |
| 14:15.40 | KriLL3 | if you're a raider yes |
| 14:15.42 | Xinhuan | and about 600 conquest |
| 14:15.44 | asmodai | 2nd wing opens tonight I think |
| 14:15.56 | asmodai | or otherwise tomorrow |
| 14:15.58 | KriLL3 | the bulk of people out there aren't going to be raiding ICC |
| 14:16.17 | Xinhuan | that's wrong, i said over 20 pug 25 raid groups form every week on my server |
| 14:16.21 | Megalon | it's just that now the demand is high |
| 14:16.30 | Megalon | because all the gear are probably upgrades |
| 14:16.31 | Xinhuan | yes, the pugs are THAT good on my server |
| 14:16.43 | sb|work | Xinhuan: its only 14 more / week |
| 14:16.47 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: errm, that's still a tiny minority of the players |
| 14:16.47 | sb|work | 3 bosses, not 4 |
| 14:16.54 | Megalon | and if you happen to be a lucky one |
| 14:17.00 | Xinhuan | ok |
| 14:17.01 | Megalon | where your weekly also resets on saturday |
| 14:17.03 | sb|work | errr |
| 14:17.05 | Megalon | +5 right there |
| 14:17.05 | sb|work | 12 more then :p |
| 14:17.10 | Xinhuan | so 47 per week then |
| 14:17.12 | sb|work | yep |
| 14:17.27 | KriLL3 | the weekly raid quest seems bugged, been flame leviathan 2 weeks in a row and I've done it 3 times |
| 14:17.27 | Xinhuan | even then you'll have all the gear you want in a month |
| 14:17.56 | KriLL3 | it's a bit like WG, quests reset in some weird way halfway through the supposed timer and you can do em again |
| 14:18.24 | Megalon | badges should be boa ;O |
| 14:18.30 | sb|work | no |
| 14:18.44 | Xinhuan | i'm already considering how i can crash teh gem market with over 1500 emblems ;p |
| 14:18.53 | Xinhuan | but then again 150 epic gems isn't a lot |
| 14:19.05 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: even if you can get em sold |
| 14:19.21 | KriLL3 | most people are also sitting on a stack of em |
| 14:19.41 | Xinhuan | i'll get them to sell |
| 14:19.45 | KriLL3 | I buy em just to stop from hitting honor cap all the time |
| 14:19.45 | Xinhuan | since its impossible to make a loss |
| 14:20.06 | KriLL3 | yes but what do you get for them? |
| 14:20.16 | Xinhuan | 100g per epic gem |
| 14:20.23 | Xinhuan | maybe 80g if price drops a little |
| 14:20.25 | KriLL3 | that's optimistic |
| 14:20.36 | Xinhuan | no, that's pessismistic |
| 14:20.42 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 14:20.52 | Xinhuan | they are currently like 120g |
| 14:21.02 | Xinhuan | the single color ones are selling 180g easily |
| 14:21.16 | Xinhuan | dual color gems are ~110-120 |
| 14:21.17 | KriLL3 | are you on an empty server? =P |
| 14:21.20 | Xinhuan | no |
| 14:21.26 | Megalon | same on my server |
| 14:21.34 | sb|work | same here, 180 for red gems |
| 14:21.34 | Xinhuan | i'm on one of the most populated servers |
| 14:21.42 | Xinhuan | there's actually a login queue this morning |
| 14:21.58 | Xinhuan | Blackrock US (BG9) |
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| 14:22.18 | Megalon | had an one hour queue today |
| 14:22.23 | KriLL3 | ah well USG is about 0.5 EUG ;) |
| 14:22.26 | Megalon | erm yesterday |
| 14:22.52 | Megalon | on my eu server the gem prices are about the same ;) |
| 14:23.23 | sb|work | bah, enough work, going home, bbl :p |
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| 14:23.57 | KriLL3 | cardinal ruby is 120g here, and there are like 2 pages full of them |
| 14:24.03 | KriLL3 | 4 if you count cut ones |
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| 14:24.38 | Fisker | damn |
| 14:24.39 | KriLL3 | guess that's viable currently while people gear up, but in a couple of weeks we'll still have that many gems and people won't have new gear every day |
| 14:24.41 | Fisker | wtb your server |
| 14:24.49 | Fisker | well i don't know if prices have fallen recently |
| 14:25.02 | Fisker | But they were around 180-220g constantly |
| 14:25.08 | Fisker | even after the patch |
| 14:25.09 | KriLL3 | heh |
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| 14:25.25 | KriLL3 | yeah I got a stack of em before patch, wish I sold... |
| 14:25.42 | KriLL3 | I kept em thinking I needed em for new gems in my new items... pfft |
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| 14:25.49 | Xinhuan | icc gear are upgrades |
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| 14:26.01 | KriLL3 | also triumph gear is super easy to get |
| 14:26.01 | onaforeignshore | anyone know of a LDB equivalent to FuQuestFu? |
| 14:26.04 | KriLL3 | for non raiders |
| 14:26.10 | Xinhuan | and gem/enchant demand will go up slightly again with new season, whenever it is |
| 14:26.35 | CrazyBenny | onaforeignshore: tomQuest, but personally I still use QuestFu as I liek it best ;) |
| 14:26.44 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: I just wish blizz fixed pvp itemization already, it's idiotic that it's much faster and easier to gear up for PvP in PvE |
| 14:27.08 | onaforeignshore | QuestFu does have a QuestLogObjectivesText error though |
| 14:27.09 | KriLL3 | sure make it possible to get pvp gear in pve, but don't make it a bloody requirement and the easiest day to do it |
| 14:27.12 | Xinhuan | i would have to contend on "easier", depending on whether your faction is any good at BGs lol |
| 14:27.32 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: you win BGs 50% of the time, might not feel like that but it is |
| 14:27.34 | CrazyBenny | onaforeignshore: dont have any errors with it, but I dont use all the modules |
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| 14:27.40 | Xinhuan | not on my BG |
| 14:27.42 | KriLL3 | unless you happen to run into premades |
| 14:27.43 | Xinhuan | its horde dominated |
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| 14:27.53 | Xinhuan | 20% alliance win on most |
| 14:28.00 | KriLL3 | fought a premade 5 times in a row in WSG yesterday... |
| 14:28.10 | KriLL3 | happyfuntimes |
| 14:28.23 | KriLL3 | actually beat em twice |
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| 14:28.53 | KriLL3 | I'm an imba flag running, speed boost from gear, talents and travelform and catform + dash to that and you can't stop me unless you were a head of me |
| 14:29.20 | KriLL3 | catform + dash = 5% slower than epic mount =P |
| 14:29.31 | onaforeignshore | CrazyBenny: was the Blizzard module - disabled that and no more errors :) |
| 14:29.32 | KriLL3 | and it works indoors |
| 14:29.57 | ckknight | has anyone come out with a replacement for my old Deformat library? |
| 14:30.20 | KriLL3 | feral charge + infected wounds / natures grasp doesn't hurt either |
| 14:30.20 | Xinhuan | don't think so ck |
| 14:30.31 | KriLL3 | charge the guy nearest where I want to go, and hit him once to slow him |
| 14:30.35 | ckknight | k, well I need it for a new project, so I'm gonna make a proper LibDeformat-3.0 |
| 14:30.48 | Xinhuan | i'm more inclined to thinkppl just manually deformat now |
| 14:30.57 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, but it doesn't work in all cases |
| 14:31.03 | ckknight | especially where you have more than one format |
| 14:31.19 | Hid | KriLL3, dash and feral swiftness doesn't stack |
| 14:31.44 | Xinhuan | you might also want to make it deformat some of blizzard's |4 |3 etc strings too |
| 14:32.29 | Xinhuan | example |
| 14:32.33 | Xinhuan | CALENDAR_ERROR_EVENTS_EXCEEDED = "You have reached your limit of %d |4created event:created events."; |
| 14:32.45 | KriLL3 | Hid: perhaps not, but doesn't pvp gear speed bonus? |
| 14:32.54 | Hid | KriLL3, It does, yeah |
| 14:33.04 | ckknight | Xinhuan: actually, the resultant string keeps the whole |4 stuff inside it |
| 14:33.09 | ckknight | it just doesn't show to the client |
| 14:33.10 | KriLL3 | fun anyway to run down mounts... |
| 14:33.25 | onaforeignshore | bubbles and curries... :p |
| 14:33.32 | Xinhuan | i suppose you have a point |
| 14:33.40 | KriLL3 | feral charge in catform to daze em, infected wounds to keep em slow |
| 14:33.40 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: yea, the old code is pretty poorly documented |
| 14:33.45 | ckknight | what I'll come up with will be better |
| 14:33.48 | ckknight | and faster! |
| 14:33.53 | KriLL3 | most people think that staying on their mount will save em from the evil kitten, but nope =P |
| 14:33.58 | Xinhuan | what new project btw? |
| 14:34.05 | Xinhuan | fubar4? |
| 14:34.21 | ckknight | no, something for a secret project at Curse |
| 14:34.25 | onaforeignshore | methinks he's lost interest in bars |
| 14:34.39 | Xinhuan | in lua? intriguing |
| 14:34.48 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: I very much doubt fubar has a future, unless it adopts LDB |
| 14:35.18 | Fisker | someone should take a gun |
| 14:35.23 | Fisker | Load a bullet in a magazine |
| 14:35.24 | onaforeignshore | me wants a good frames in lua tutorial... |
| 14:35.27 | ckknight | Xinhuan: yea, an addon for a top-secret project |
| 14:35.27 | Megalon | hm, a quick taint question |
| 14:35.28 | ckknight | :P |
| 14:35.29 | Fisker | insert the magazine into the gun |
| 14:35.32 | Megalon | Interface\FrameXML\LFRFrame.lua:389 |
| 14:35.33 | Fisker | point at fubar's head |
| 14:35.34 | Megalon | http://paste.wowace.com/1591/ |
| 14:35.36 | Fisker | and pull the trigger |
| 14:35.44 | KriLL3 | Fisker: that goes for a lot of old addons |
| 14:35.50 | KriLL3 | my brother uses xperl |
| 14:35.51 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster rescues it every patch :P |
| 14:35.51 | KriLL3 | ... |
| 14:36.06 | Megalon | taintlog tells me that the "SearchLFGLeave();" line should be the culprit |
| 14:37.16 | Fisker | btw the top secret project is ready next week right ckknight ? |
| 14:37.20 | Fisker | @project blessed |
| 14:37.21 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Status: Changes required. Your project requires a better description. Please elaborate on what your project does, including basic functionality and intended use.. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 13 hours ago |
| 14:37.25 | ckknight | no, Fisker |
| 14:37.46 | Fisker | got my hopes up there |
| 14:38.14 | Fisker | oh my Antiarc |
| 14:38.20 | Fisker | lowercase b |
| 14:38.22 | Fisker | that's not good! |
| 14:38.56 | onaforeignshore | what's with all the ; in that code? I thought you should use ; unless in very specific circumstances? |
| 14:39.16 | onaforeignshore | s/should/shouldn't/ |
| 14:39.43 | KriLL3 | is there an addon solution to my buff macro issue? one of my specs has 1 hour thorns, one doesn't, I buff myself and other with a cast sequence macro with thorns first, but if I'm in the spec that doesn't make it longer it fails, and doesn't refresh MoTW either |
| 14:40.00 | KriLL3 | reversing the macro just gives the same issue more often |
| 14:40.02 | Xinhuan | the usage of ; is ignored by the lua interpreter, so in general, one only uses it for readability purposes |
| 14:40.48 | Xinhuan | its not wrong to use them, its just unnecessary, and makes your file a few hundred bytes larger |
| 14:41.18 | krka | no, ; is not ignored |
| 14:41.30 | Xinhuan | well i dont' really mean its ignored, just that from a programmer view, you can think of it that way |
| 14:41.43 | krka | not really |
| 14:41.57 | krka | if it were ignore, you could add it everywhere in the code without it breaking |
| 14:41.58 | krka | which you can't |
| 14:42.11 | krka | you may only put it between statements (and inside table constructors) |
| 14:42.47 | Xinhuan | i thought my context made it clear that you only use ; in that context in any language in the first place |
| 14:42.50 | onaforeignshore | and ;; is invalid |
| 14:43.56 | onaforeignshore | www.lua.org examples don't use ; so I'm sticking to their syntax :0 |
| 14:45.07 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r106 / (13 files in 1 directory): first version |
| 14:45.45 | evl | Anyone leveled an alt latelty using any leveling addon of some sort (TourGuide/QH etc.) can't seem to find one that works with the 3.3 changes |
| 14:45.51 | Xinhuan | @describe splitter |
| 14:45.52 | Repo | Xinhuan: http://www.wowace.com/addons/splitter/. Splitter. GetDKP Clone |
| 14:46.32 | KriLL3 | what's with LDB addons and terrible icons? :\ going from titanpanel + LDB to pure LDB is a serious downgrade visually, and I can't find a LDB plugin that shows my honor on the bar and my BG marks in the tooltip |
| 14:46.36 | onaforeignshore | QH is working for me |
| 14:46.39 | Hid | evl, Zygor |
| 14:47.03 | Xinhuan | just torrent a pirated copy of zygor's leveling guide |
| 14:47.05 | KriLL3 | QH works but it's 3.3 additions are very rough |
| 14:47.14 | evl | and Zygor works with 3.3? |
| 14:47.20 | Xinhuan | its so brain dead that its actually one of the best |
| 14:47.30 | Xinhuan | i don't see why it wouldn't, it doesn't use any map feature |
| 14:47.37 | evl | yeah I was planning on touching myself/knit while I did it |
| 14:47.52 | Xinhuan | it packages tomtom as part of its addon, but you can install the latest version of tomtom over it |
| 14:48.25 | evl | excellent |
| 14:48.26 | evl | thanks |
| 14:48.28 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: it's an actual addon? thought it was just a .txt |
| 14:49.02 | KriLL3 | isn't it against the EULA to charge for addons btw? |
| 14:50.02 | asmodai | Xinhuan: So what exactly does Zygor's guide do? Be some sort of questhelper for the shortest route to level 1-80? |
| 14:50.24 | Xinhuan | it just lists a series of steps you need to do from 1 to 354. |
| 14:50.32 | Xinhuan | step 1: go to (x, y), accept quest Z |
| 14:50.34 | KriLL3 | I wish someone made an addon like QH but it used the 3.3 information instead of some weird database, and it shouldn't be a buggy piece of bloatware |
| 14:50.39 | Xinhuan | step 2: goto (a, b), kill X mobs |
| 14:50.41 | yoshimo | i think its "you pay for the pdf /doc witht the leveling guide and get an addon to help you with it", im not sure if thats against EULA |
| 14:50.47 | Xinhuan | and at every step, you get a tomtom arrow automated |
| 14:50.55 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: ah, a bit gray |
| 14:50.57 | Xinhuan | the guide advances each step as you do them automatically |
| 14:51.14 | Xinhuan | step 134: Hearth and take flightpath from X to Y |
| 14:51.22 | Xinhuan | step 135: set hearthstone at Y |
| 14:51.25 | Xinhuan | that kindof thing |
| 14:51.28 | asmodai | Xinhuan: So the only value would be more streamling of the process |
| 14:51.28 | Xinhuan | its braindead |
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| 14:51.31 | KriLL3 | Xinhuan: does it take your class/race into account? |
| 14:51.32 | yoshimo | xinhuan, doesnt tourguide do the same? im not sure about it |
| 14:51.35 | Xinhuan | yes KriLL3 |
| 14:51.52 | Xinhuan | well, by brain dead, what i mean is you don't even need to read the quest |
| 14:52.03 | krka | so basically you eliminate the game part of the game. awesome! |
| 14:52.06 | Xinhuan | you just need to follow the tomtom arrow, and the Kill X Blah, Loot X item |
| 14:52.13 | Xinhuan | leveling an alt is braindead anyway |
| 14:52.21 | Xinhuan | it even tells you when to hearth! |
| 14:52.24 | yoshimo | :D |
| 14:52.50 | yoshimo | we have zygor, joana, brian, but are there differences between them ? |
| 14:53.12 | evl | Hmms, it seems great |
| 14:53.24 | evl | it even takes into account any extra xp from recruit a friend, hierloom, doing instances etc. |
| 14:57.06 | Xinhuan | zygor's route also makes sure you complete the quest achievement for each northrend zone (the Do X quests in Y zone) one |
| 14:57.12 | asmodai | Xinhuan: That frame they made does look slick though. |
| 14:57.18 | asmodai | Xinhuan: Just looked at their demo on YouTube |
| 14:57.27 | asmodai | But yeah, it's really braindead. |
| 14:57.38 | asmodai | Turns you into a mouse click slave |
| 14:57.40 | Xinhuan | its so braindead a friend of mine used it to get first lvl80 on server |
| 14:57.47 | Xinhuan | of his class that is |
| 14:57.47 | evl | that's pro :) |
| 14:57.59 | Xinhuan | since the guide for 70-80 was written in closed beta |
| 14:58.00 | evl | Might be hard on my server, 1000 queues every night hooo |
| 14:58.10 | asmodai | evl: seriously? :| |
| 14:58.14 | evl | Yes, seriously |
| 14:58.19 | asmodai | Which is this? |
| 14:58.22 | evl | Stormscale |
| 14:58.24 | evl | EU |
| 14:58.26 | Repo | 10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 7ecb608 / (8 files in 3 directories): [new, +1 commit] Initial commit |
| 14:58.27 | asmodai | wow :| |
| 14:58.32 | evl | yes, it's a wow server |
| 14:58.36 | evl | *fiffle* |
| 14:58.48 | asmodai | Never had that on Stormrage or Thunderhorn |
| 14:59.06 | evl | it's just a very popular server, i just recently transferred back |
| 15:01.02 | Repo | New addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/. LibDeformat-3.0. ckknight (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal. |
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| 15:06.20 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r107 Splitter.lua: first version |
| 15:09.31 | asmodai | Heh, seems like my guild failed to down Lady Deathwhisper last night |
| 15:09.58 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 15:10.59 | asmodai | 11 tries, mmm |
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| 15:11.46 | yoshimo | mhm i think saurfang is more difficult asmodai |
| 15:11.52 | Xtek | Heyo. |
| 15:11.54 | asmodai | yoshimo: Could be! |
| 15:11.59 | asmodai | Heya xtek |
| 15:12.15 | Xtek | How was everyone's holiday? |
| 15:12.41 | ckknight | hey Xtek |
| 15:12.47 | asmodai | pretty good thanks |
| 15:12.49 | asmodai | yours? |
| 15:12.52 | ckknight | huzzah, I have fixed the documenter |
| 15:12.55 | ckknight | ...I think |
| 15:13.02 | Xtek | hey ck |
| 15:13.30 | Xtek | pretty good, damn crotch bomber made travelling a bit of a pain |
| 15:14.29 | Repo | 10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 4a07ed1 LibDeformat-3.0.lua: [+1 commit] change @example to @usage |
| 15:14.33 | ckknight | Xtek: oh yea, didn't even think about that |
| 15:15.06 | asmodai | Interesting, you'd think a spell like http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=72005 would qualify for both Frost and Shadow |
| 15:15.23 | KriLL3 | weird, why do I sometimes get people with roughly the same gear as me, 5200gs~ but sometimes I end up in random groups as the lone guy over 3000gs... had one right now with 4x guys in leveling blues... |
| 15:15.47 | KriLL3 | #1 dps by a huge lead as tank = failgroup |
| 15:16.09 | KriLL3 | I did as much dmg as the rest of the party together |
| 15:16.11 | asmodai | heh |
| 15:16.18 | steev | KriLL3: what kinda tank? |
| 15:16.22 | KriLL3 | feral |
| 15:16.24 | asmodai | They labeled you a care bear :) |
| 15:16.26 | steev | meh |
| 15:16.39 | yoshimo | krill, the included gearcheck from blizzard is not very strict ;) |
| 15:16.40 | steev | my dk is consistently #2 in damage |
| 15:16.45 | KriLL3 | asmodai: sure it's nice helping people out, but man it takes ages with that low dps |
| 15:17.04 | steev | frost tank ftw |
| 15:17.04 | Ackis | ~seen Xinhuan |
| 15:17.05 | purl | xinhuan is currently on #wowhead (2d 18h 21m 27s). Has said a total of 115 messages. Is idling for 7m 8s, last said: 'heh'. |
| 15:17.18 | asmodai | my enhancement shaman was held back by his weapons |
| 15:17.19 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: I thought the LFD system tried to match you with people with roughly as good gear |
| 15:17.29 | asmodai | After getting nighttime and blood weaper my dps lept ahead :) |
| 15:17.35 | steev | i did a random the other day with all guildies for once |
| 15:17.47 | steev | it was kinda nice but god damn i had threat issues against our shaman |
| 15:17.51 | Xinhuan | why doesn't purl say i'm in this channel |
| 15:18.09 | steev | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Sen%27jin&cn=Wafflehouse |
| 15:18.21 | steev | Xinhuan: you aren't, you just think you are |
| 15:18.33 | Ackis | ~seen Xinhuan |
| 15:18.33 | purl | xinhuan is currently on #wowhead (2d 18h 22m 55s). Has said a total of 116 messages. Is idling for 42s, last said: 'why doesn't purl say i'm in this channel'. |
| 15:18.42 | Ackis | Xinhuan: lol |
| 15:18.47 | Xinhuan | ~seen Ackis |
| 15:18.48 | purl | ackis is currently on #wowhead (3d 7h 40m 25s) #wowwiki (3d 7h 40m 25s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 6s, last said: 'Xinhuan: lol'. |
| 15:18.49 | ckknight | hey all, please look over the code and API for http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/, I'd appreciate it. |
| 15:19.05 | Xinhuan | see, it lists ackis in 2 channels but not this one |
| 15:19.06 | asmodai | steev: *grin* |
| 15:19.18 | Ackis | Xinhuan: nor wowuidev, and arl |
| 15:19.20 | asmodai | steev: That's why I tend to start a bit later after a tank picks up a mob |
| 15:19.24 | steev | asmodai: he's the only one who can pull off me |
| 15:19.33 | Xinhuan | try that command in #wowhead |
| 15:19.38 | asmodai | steev: my guild tank complained about it, said I was lagging in starting dps after the casters |
| 15:19.39 | Xinhuan | see if it says different lol |
| 15:19.43 | steev | asmodai: eh, he's good (hopefully you can tell that by the armory) - but yeah |
| 15:19.53 | asmodai | steev: until I mentioned that I had shitty tanks in the past where I stole threat :D |
| 15:19.55 | KriLL3 | half the party jumped of the platform in nexus and died, I forged ahead with only the healer for company =P |
| 15:20.03 | KriLL3 | didn't really notice any difference... |
| 15:20.09 | asmodai | KriLL3: People keep doing that eh? :) |
| 15:20.15 | KriLL3 | yeah |
| 15:20.23 | steev | back when i was undergeared |
| 15:20.24 | asmodai | did that the very first time |
| 15:20.28 | asmodai | never again after |
| 15:20.32 | steev | (aka, the other day on my horde dk) |
| 15:20.34 | asmodai | I *HATE* jumping and shortcuts |
| 15:20.37 | KriLL3 | I never have, since I looked down before I jumped the first time =P |
| 15:20.47 | steev | i asked people to give me a second to gather up all the mobs |
| 15:20.50 | steev | it was heroic FoS |
| 15:21.00 | KriLL3 | steev: FoS sucks |
| 15:21.01 | steev | one of those pulls with the shade wannabes |
| 15:21.08 | KriLL3 | tons of widely spaced casters |
| 15:21.09 | steev | i *start* to run in |
| 15:21.18 | steev | mage fucking blinks in and frost novas |
| 15:21.28 | KriLL3 | all the 3 new instances suck horribly for tanks, guess blizz want to punish us or something |
| 15:21.45 | steev | i'm like uh? |
| 15:22.07 | steev | so i let the mage die, and tell him next time he wants to do a pull, roll a tank |
| 15:22.18 | asmodai | rofl |
| 15:22.21 | KriLL3 | let me guess, he went ape? |
| 15:22.25 | asmodai | glass cannons++ |
| 15:22.30 | steev | he left the group |
| 15:22.33 | ckknight | cya all in a bit |
| 15:22.37 | KriLL3 | ckknight: cu |
| 15:22.52 | steev | which was awesome cuz it was the first group with the shade |
| 15:23.08 | steev | third pull in basically |
| 15:23.25 | steev | 4th pull (the 2 on the bridge) |
| 15:23.30 | asmodai | hahaha, reminds me of that floating face, what's its name again |
| 15:23.32 | steev | i'm about to go |
| 15:23.41 | steev | the healer says "i need mana" |
| 15:23.44 | steev | so i stop |
| 15:23.51 | KriLL3 | I hate dps that doesn't understand the basics of aggro management, it's a nightmare to get aggro back from multiple mobs, specially if none of them are hitting you to give aggro |
| 15:23.55 | steev | the hunter runs up and shoots the mobs |
| 15:24.05 | KriLL3 | *rage |
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| 15:24.16 | steev | the hunter is on the same server (and in the same guild!) as the healer |
| 15:24.20 | asmodai | so guild tank tells me to watch for a mark on random people and to stop dps or so, so something happens and I look around to find it, can't find anything, was lost the whole battle. Guess I need to reread that boss XD |
| 15:24.32 | asmodai | The downside of trying to be too helpful ;) |
| 15:24.45 | steev | asmodai: the last boss in FoS? |
| 15:24.50 | steev | it's mirror of souls |
| 15:24.56 | asmodai | ah yes, mirror of souls |
| 15:25.03 | KriLL3 | and it's announced |
| 15:25.10 | steev | its not a mark, its a huge (depending on proximity) wavy line to the person |
| 15:25.10 | KriLL3 | and you don't need to know on which it is |
| 15:25.33 | asmodai | Yeah, but I misunderstood something so spend quite some time being lost. |
| 15:25.39 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 15:25.50 | asmodai | It's different from that ICC5 battle where you get a mark (brand) on you |
| 15:25.57 | asmodai | so t here I am ready to DPS |
| 15:26.00 | KriLL3 | that boss is a bit weird, luckily it has too little hp to stress the party too much, but yeah it feels somewhat frantic |
| 15:26.05 | asmodai | and get branded 5 times in the entire bloody fight :S |
| 15:26.22 | asmodai | so yeah, then your DPS wavers off quite a bit. Good thing I'm bursty as enhancement. |
| 15:26.41 | steev | asmodai: srsly? its heroics, dps doesn't matter *that* much |
| 15:26.56 | asmodai | steev: Well, for me it was :) |
| 15:26.58 | steev | although it did take us 10 minutes cuz we lost almost everyone in the group due to brand |
| 15:27.03 | steev | it was me and the hunter left |
| 15:27.04 | KriLL3 | btw last boss in PoS is fun, does a knockback and then a buff that makes all his attacks one hits, thus tank needs to kite on ice patches, only problem is that dps doesn't realize I only got to him him like 5 times before he did that... |
| 15:27.05 | asmodai | steev: Since I was undergeared at first XD |
| 15:27.05 | Xinhuan | you can "cheese" the mark at saufang though |
| 15:27.11 | steev | and i just kept kiting the boss over the ice |
| 15:27.20 | KriLL3 | and he one hits 1-2 dps:ers =P |
| 15:27.30 | KriLL3 | "zomg tank, why not on boss!?"" |
| 15:27.44 | steev | KriLL3: i really hate that |
| 15:27.50 | profalbert | ~seen zeksie |
| 15:27.51 | purl | zeksie <n=zeksie@cpc2-nott9-0-0-cust23.nott.cable.ntl.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 19d 15h 59m 24s ago, saying: '(enjoy)'. |
| 15:27.56 | steev | most people are like |
| 15:28.22 | KriLL3 | funny specially that the ones he one hit are usually classes with abilities to remove aggro |
| 15:28.39 | KriLL3 | I guess binding FD is too much of a hassle... |
| 15:28.51 | asmodai | KriLL3: I think I can only do that with wind shear |
| 15:29.12 | pentium166 | that's what reincarnation is for! |
| 15:29.55 | KriLL3 | well still don't you have a treat meter? or at least know that if the tank got to hit the boss like twice you shouldn't nuke? |
| 15:30.25 | Xinhuan | unless yuo're a rogue |
| 15:30.27 | KriLL3 | lol pala in orgrimmar, though he could be cool and throw a bubble + hs, but he started hs too late, we hit him just as bubble ended and hs failed =P |
| 15:30.39 | Xinhuan | you're allowed to hit the boss before the tank does if you're a rogue :P |
| 15:30.47 | KriLL3 | ToT? |
| 15:30.57 | KriLL3 | or are you being sarcastic? |
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| 15:32.22 | KriLL3 | a lot of melee dps seems to think it's wasted to stand behind mobs, and like to stand right on top of them when they spawn/activate etc, hate using taunt first second in a fight |
| 15:32.52 | ckknight | k |
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| 15:39.12 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that auto sells soulbound unusable items? |
| 15:39.24 | KriLL3 | like plate/mail as druid |
| 15:40.42 | yoshimo | krill, dont you hit the mob better if you stand behind of it unless it has a tail? ;) |
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| 15:41.41 | KriLL3 | yes it can't parry |
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| 15:43.36 | Antiarc | Was secureHeader:ChildUpdate() removed/renamed? |
| 15:43.42 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.9-9-g908a00a Code/Triggers.lua: [+2 commits] |
| 15:43.44 | Repo | 908a00a: add default-trigger for Serendipity (disabled by default) |
| 15:43.45 | Repo | 35db9f8: rename "Free Smite"-trigger to "Surge of Light" |
| 15:43.48 | Antiarc | It's in Iriel's guide, but I'm getting a nil error in actual usage. |
| 15:45.05 | ThiefMaster | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZx0xAMzgbo <- any ideas if that paladin tanking build is good for lvl40? |
| 15:45.28 | Antiarc | Reckoning isn't that great, Imp Devo Aura is great |
| 15:45.43 | Antiarc | Divine Sac/Divine Guardian are nice buffer tools |
| 15:46.10 | Antiarc | HoJ is a PVP talent |
| 15:46.43 | Antiarc | I'd take Spiritual Attunement before Holy Shield |
| 15:46.51 | Antiarc | Otherwise you'll be mana-starved the whole time |
| 15:47.06 | Antiarc | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#sZx0tAbuMu |
| 15:47.54 | KriLL3 | doubt your build matters much at 40 |
| 15:48.00 | KriLL3 | it's facerollable |
| 15:48.20 | Antiarc | Spiritual Attunement will definitely matter |
| 15:48.35 | ThiefMaster | sure it is, i tanked all instances as retri but since i have way enough gold why not buy dualspec with a real tanking build ;) |
| 15:48.36 | KriLL3 | my brother got blue items over his own level in the mail when he did a random dungeon at 37 |
| 15:48.45 | profalbert | ckknight: http://paste.wowace.com/1593/ |
| 15:49.01 | ckknight | profalbert: on it |
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| 15:49.36 | ckknight | fixed, profalbert |
| 15:50.51 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.9-10-g9e01e6a CHANGELOG.txt: [+1 commit] update changelog |
| 15:51.17 | yoshimo | so krill, why dont people stand behind mobs then to make more dmg? i know everyone wants to be first in recount ;) |
| 15:51.35 | krka | you make more damage behind mobs? O_o |
| 15:51.54 | yoshimo | yes because you hit them more often |
| 15:52.08 | krka | oh i see |
| 15:52.15 | krka | mob has lower parry / dodge then? |
| 15:52.20 | yoshimo | indeed |
| 15:52.21 | Antiarc | They can't parry or block from behind |
| 15:52.43 | Antiarc | They can still dodge, but you pick up about 10% mitigation, raise your crit cap, and severely reduce the chances of being cleaved in twain. |
| 15:52.43 | krka | just like your mom! |
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| 15:54.24 | yoshimo | unless its a dragon , in which case you should attack from the side to avoid being cleaved and hit by tails |
| 15:55.40 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: the fools linking recount every encounter aren't smart enough to know how to actually improve their DPS, they're usually just outgearing everyone since their friend takes em along as a charity in raids |
| 15:56.35 | yoshimo | krill, recount is a nice tool, but most people cant use it. complaining about low dps hunters in an encounter where the hunter is moving a lot, doesnt make sense |
| 15:56.43 | KriLL3 | I had a rogue whine at me that I swiped zombies in CoS because it put me above him on dps meters... |
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| 15:56.52 | Antiarc | ....wow. |
| 15:57.02 | KriLL3 | "zomg that's cheating!" |
| 15:57.15 | Antiarc | Also if the hunter has to move a lot, chances are everyone has to move a lot >_> |
| 15:57.46 | KriLL3 | yes though generally speaking melee don't mind moving |
| 15:57.56 | KriLL3 | since we don't have casts |
| 15:57.58 | Antiarc | Depends on what kind of movement it is, heh |
| 15:58.16 | KriLL3 | well I had a warrior stand perfectly still at last boss in nexus just now... |
| 15:58.19 | Antiarc | If I'm chasing Deathwhisper adds around, I mind very much :P |
| 15:58.26 | KriLL3 | had a billion stacks of chill |
| 15:58.39 | yoshimo | or complaining about healers that are low on heal, because they spent the whole fight with cleansing debuffs ;) |
| 15:59.17 | KriLL3 | what about healers too busy to play dps to heal? =P |
| 15:59.26 | Fisker | i hate deathwhisper |
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| 15:59.45 | Fisker | MC'd persons should get like 75% reduced aoe damage or something |
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| 16:00.25 | yoshimo | krill, im paladin, so either dps OR heal , doesnt fit together. Im not a priest ;) |
| 16:01.07 | KriLL3 | yoshimo: heh, I've had a bunch of priests in HCs that think they're the best dps:er in the world and just throw hots at me, usually works but sometimes it doesn't... |
| 16:01.15 | KriLL3 | especially in HoR |
| 16:01.39 | KriLL3 | priest gets stunned, 2 footmen zerk and I got magic dmg debuff & mage nuking me |
| 16:01.48 | KriLL3 | that HoT isn't enough then |
| 16:02.14 | Fisker | why would a dps'er throw hots on you? |
| 16:02.24 | KriLL3 | I survive perhaps if I throw all my tanking cooldowns... |
| 16:02.28 | yoshimo | well i know priests in holyspec and gear can do a nice amount of dmg, but if you die, that doesnt help ;) |
| 16:02.49 | KriLL3 | Fisker: it's a holy priest with healer as role, but they dps more than heal because they're weird |
| 16:02.57 | Fisker | ... |
| 16:03.21 | KriLL3 | a lot of disc healer priests in instances also recently, isn't disc rubbish compared to holy in PvE? are they just too cheap to dual spec? |
| 16:03.21 | ThiefMaster | recount is even better if people start flaming disc priests due to low hps :p |
| 16:03.44 | ThiefMaster | and no, disc is perfectly fine for pve.. and having one in a raid is awesome |
| 16:03.51 | yoshimo | thiefmaster, ignore those people |
| 16:04.03 | ThiefMaster | i don't play a priest anyway |
| 16:04.04 | KriLL3 | well disc priests don't seem as good healers in HCs anyway... |
| 16:04.18 | yoshimo | recountguessedabsorbs might help |
| 16:04.26 | KriLL3 | most of them tend to wait for my HP to drop to 1/3 and then do a big slow cast to get me back to 1/2 |
| 16:04.36 | KriLL3 | I don't like that |
| 16:04.38 | Gnarfoz | hearsay and generalizations |
| 16:04.47 | Gnarfoz | just like we like KriLL3 :D |
| 16:05.09 | KriLL3 | my finger next to my survival instincts bind witches when I'm that low that long |
| 16:05.18 | KriLL3 | *twitches |
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| 16:34.35 | ThiefMaster | umm which seal do i use for tanking? just noticed that SoC was a ret talent.. |
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| 16:35.31 | Gnarfoz | ThiefMaster: SoV |
| 16:35.35 | onaforeignshore | I'm dual disc/holy and I use disc a lot more than holy |
| 16:36.03 | ThiefMaster | not available as lvl40 ;x |
| 16:36.29 | onaforeignshore | disc priest + mage with incanters absorption = lotsa dps :p |
| 16:37.27 | onaforeignshore | recount guessed absorbs + recount absorb + heal |
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| 16:43.19 | yoshimo | onaforeignshore , absorb isnt heal, as elsia already explained ;) |
| 16:47.16 | sztanpet | its better |
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| 16:47.44 | sztanpet | skada has an absorbs + heal mode in alpha |
| 16:49.03 | Repo | 10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * df633d1 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add some comments and move some code around. |
| 16:53.12 | Gnarfoz | ThiefMaster: SoR, then |
| 16:57.46 | Superfly1 | I thought you cant track which players' shield absorbed the damage, did blizz change that in 3.3? |
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| 17:01.50 | Antiarc | What's the easiest way to get the time left on the GCD? |
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| 17:04.07 | Antiarc | Nevermind! |
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| 17:06.28 | Antiarc | .....heh. |
| 17:06.43 | Antiarc | Creating a new Cooldown frame accidentally attached to UIParent is awesome |
| 17:06.56 | onaforeignshore | yoshimo: there's a module for recount called absorb + heal which adds the 2 together |
| 17:07.39 | yoshimo | i know, but why should you sum up apples and citrons, aka 2 different things? |
| 17:08.15 | Gnarfoz | Superfly1: that's what the "guessed" part stands for |
| 17:09.01 | steev | are the items for the mechano-hog bop from the vendor? or just require engineering/knowing the pattern to get |
| 17:10.24 | yoshimo | there is no bop on them just a "requires engineering" |
| 17:12.30 | sb|work | onaforeignshore: does that thing actually work? |
| 17:12.33 | sb|work | *downloading* |
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| 17:18.12 | digmouse | LF Oceanic or US East realm recommendation, alliance |
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| 17:23.00 | Repo | 10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 4cfaf7c / (3 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Add tests to main LibDeformat-3.0.lua, accessible only in debug mode and LibDeformat.Test() must be called to run the tests. Remove other tests, as they're not really useful anymore. |
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| 17:26.00 | yoshimo | purl is very quiet today, is there a command to check if shes alive? |
| 17:26.10 | durcyn | ~ping |
| 17:26.11 | purl | ~pong |
| 17:26.26 | sb|work | ~~~~ |
| 17:26.27 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT sb|work!!! |
| 17:26.42 | profalbert | oh finally a libstubbed version of deformat |
| 17:27.03 | profalbert | looking forward to get rid of AceLibrary |
| 17:27.54 | yoshimo | ~seen Ulic |
| 17:27.56 | purl | ulic <n=ulic@71-218-8-155.hlrn.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 18h 7m 24s ago, saying: 'I think it was called PB_ProfileSwitcher or something similar.'. |
| 17:28.12 | yoshimo | ah ok, purl doesnt want to answer queries |
| 17:28.25 | durcyn | privmsgs should work just fine |
| 17:29.28 | yoshimo | she answers but not if i use seen in a privmsg |
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| 17:31.20 | durcyn | don't use tildes in privmsg |
| 17:31.33 | yoshimo | i dont |
| 17:31.53 | yoshimo | if i do she says me that i shouldnt ;) |
| 17:32.13 | durcyn | dunno what to tell you, maybe you're ignored. |
| 17:33.21 | yoshimo | ~seen azethoth |
| 17:33.22 | purl | yoshimo: i haven't seen 'azethoth' |
| 17:33.34 | yoshimo | that works but /msg purl seen azethoth doesnt ;) |
| 17:34.55 | rbarreiros | doesn't work for me either |
| 17:39.33 | Gnarfoz | yoshimo: he's toadkiller around here |
| 17:39.35 | Gnarfoz | ~seen toadkiller |
| 17:39.36 | purl | toadkiller <n=dnester@74-93-1-74-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 71d 5h 21m 44s ago, saying: 'You need to watch "Gone in 60 seconds" to get the reference'. |
| 17:40.04 | yoshimo | 71 days is a heck of a long time |
| 17:41.49 | Megalon | quite some toads being killed in that time |
| 17:42.52 | asmodai | bloody hell, and now I cannot repeat my reproducibility at all :( |
| 17:43.36 | Megalon | better if you don't reproduce at all! |
| 17:45.04 | ckknight | profalbert |
| 17:45.07 | ckknight | look over my codes |
| 17:45.13 | ckknight | profalbert: for LibDeformat-3.0 |
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| 17:46.26 | profalbert | The useage is the same as Deformat-2.0 right? |
| 17:47.48 | profalbert | ckknight: oh, the folder is named LibDeformat-1.0? |
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| 17:48.42 | ckknight | is it? |
| 17:48.48 | ckknight | eep |
| 17:48.49 | ckknight | hang on |
| 17:49.36 | Repo | 10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 07master * 4deff67 .pkgmeta: [+1 commit] Fix folder name in .pkgmeta |
| 17:49.38 | asmodai | So I die during a daily on which you ride a dragon, and now my corpse is up on the air and you get to resurrect high up inthe air as well |
| 17:49.41 | asmodai | fun! |
| 17:49.57 | rbarreiros | o.O |
| 17:50.10 | ckknight | profalbert: well, Deformat only takes two arguments rather than 1 + any number, it just concatted them together. |
| 17:50.15 | ckknight | profalbert: do you use that anywhere? |
| 17:51.28 | profalbert | nope always 2 args |
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| 17:56.39 | Pneumatus | damn you to hell FH_DATE_PAST_20XX :< |
| 17:56.45 | sb|work | hehe |
| 17:56.46 | Pneumatus | worst spamassassin rule ever |
| 17:56.54 | rbarreiros | o.O |
| 17:57.01 | Pneumatus | time to check lenny volatile |
| 17:58.48 | Pneumatus | 14 clean messages vs 966 flagged as spam did seem a little high :o |
| 17:59.10 | sb|work | hm thats okay for me :p |
| 17:59.30 | ckknight | hey, anyone know the data formats for questcache.wdb for 3.3? |
| 18:01.23 | onaforeignshore | I have a little frame pop up now that says "xxx\nDoesn't have Quixote." - can't close it or hide it and have no idea what addon it's from now :( |
| 18:01.30 | onaforeignshore | anyone have any ideas? |
| 18:04.27 | onaforeignshore | and I have a Who box pop up with "n-Name" the whole time |
| 18:04.40 | onaforeignshore | when I find the culprits I'm gonna nail them :p |
| 18:06.32 | Fisker | ckknight ask Adys |
| 18:06.50 | ckknight | got the info, actually |
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| 18:07.51 | steev | Pneumatus: fwiw, that sounds about right for some of my accounts :/ |
| 18:08.31 | Pneumatus | well, it is about right for mine, just i know of at least one message that normally gets ~6.0 that got deleted |
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| 18:33.26 | steev | will i ever be able to right click on a unit frame and choose set focus? |
| 18:34.29 | Shadowed | well |
| 18:34.34 | Shadowed | Blizzard has yet to fix the bug since like 2.0 |
| 18:34.35 | Shadowed | so |
| 18:35.02 | Pneumatus | Global variable UIDROPDOWNMENU_MENU_LEVEL tainted by Acheron - Interface\FrameXML\UIDropDownMenu.lua:597 |
| 18:35.08 | Pneumatus | thats for my set focus :< |
| 18:35.21 | Shadowed | The only way it'll ever work is someone gets crazy enough to actually replicate the entire dropdown code as a secure header |
| 18:35.28 | Shadowed | or Blizzard fixes it, which won't happen till at least 4.0 |
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| 18:41.52 | Primer | Anyone know if there's an event for a POI being removed from the map due to a quest completion? |
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| 18:43.00 | koaschten | anyone here ever terminated a contract with his ISP because they failed to deliver proper service? |
| 18:43.59 | sb|work | haha |
| 18:44.00 | sb|work | :) |
| 18:44.03 | koaschten | :( |
| 18:44.08 | Primer | Not I, as I have only one ISP that can deliver high speed internet where I live |
| 18:45.11 | koaschten | speedtest.net fails to test the bandwidth of my line at the moment. because it times out during the upload due to abysmal speeds |
| 18:45.17 | koaschten | >:( |
| 18:45.35 | Primer | perhaps it's just a temporary fuck up on their part |
| 18:45.48 | Primer | I had a month's worth of temporary fuckup on my ISP's part |
| 18:46.01 | koaschten | i am having issues since last summer |
| 18:46.02 | Primer | and it was just that...a badly configured router upstream |
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| 18:46.14 | koaschten | and i am so fed up, i am considering to cancel the contract one-sided |
| 18:46.24 | koaschten | because they fail to deliver |
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| 18:47.33 | koaschten | i am having packetloss on the first 3 hops from my router in their network |
| 18:47.36 | koaschten | its just >:( |
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| 18:54.59 | Repo | 10blessed: 03Antiarc 07master * 6da53aa / (2 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] Lots of UI polish, think it pretty much works for single-player now. Comms up next! |
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| 19:00.58 | Repo | b204c53: Add pkgmeta and embeds |
| 19:01.40 | profalbert | haste: ping |
| 19:02.39 | yoshimo | does blessed use libtalenquery to find out peoples specs`? |
| 19:03.26 | profalbert | haste: maybe you want to have a look at http://tinyurl.com/y89e6so |
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| 19:05.14 | Antiarc | yoshimo: Not yet. |
| 19:05.19 | Antiarc | Planning on doing something like that. |
| 19:06.20 | Antiarc | My intent is for it to be as intelligent with defaults as possible |
| 19:07.57 | Antiarc | Is there an event that fires when another player changes specs? |
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| 19:10.27 | yoshimo | does the spell "activate spec" show in combatlog for other players? |
| 19:12.34 | profalbert | nope |
| 19:15.43 | yoshimo | what about ACTIVE_TALENT_GROUP_CHANGED or PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE antiarc? |
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| 19:16.18 | Antiarc | Those are fired locally |
| 19:16.22 | Antiarc | Don't think they fire for everyone |
| 19:18.05 | Repo | 10fubar_durabilityfu: 03Zidomo * r127 FuBar_DurabilityFu.toc: |
| 19:18.07 | Repo | Push version to repackage with latest Dewdrop (r321). Which (finally) allows the standalone minimap button to provide an options menu. Which LDB displays + FuBar2Broker & original FuBar have already had. |
| 19:20.10 | Primer | Can anyone explain what [] does in this macro: /cast [@=mouseover,help] [] Renew |
| 19:20.39 | Primer | I'm having a bitch of a time making multiple stance macros because of that [] |
| 19:20.56 | Primer | (renew was not the best example) |
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| 19:21.53 | Primer | the [] makes it so I can self-cast it, I know that much |
| 19:22.29 | Pneumatus | nfi, i have it in my mana burn macro as well |
| 19:22.30 | Primer | without it I can only cast it if I have actually have a target or a mouseover |
| 19:22.59 | Primer | hrmm, but now I'm not so sure, since you mentioned that |
| 19:23.01 | Pneumatus | oh, its like an else condition |
| 19:23.23 | Pneumatus | so the first case doesnt match, so it falls to [] which means cast as normal |
| 19:23.33 | Pneumatus | without it, it would only be castable on mouseover |
| 19:23.44 | Primer | which is why nothing after it matches |
| 19:23.49 | Pneumatus | yeh |
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| 19:24.25 | Pneumatus | so you could have /cast [@=mouseover,exists][focus,help][] Renew |
| 19:24.26 | Pneumatus | or something |
| 19:24.51 | quiescens | moo |
| 19:25.14 | Primer | /cast [@=mouseover,help,stance:0] [@=target,help,stance:0] [@=player,stance:0] Regrowth; [stance:1] Lacerate <-- perhaps? |
| 19:26.23 | Primer | all the "help,stance:0" are so redundant though |
| 19:26.37 | quiescens | do the @ things work already |
| 19:26.40 | Primer | yes |
| 19:26.45 | Primer | have since the last patch |
| 19:26.52 | Primer | 3.3 |
| 19:27.30 | Stanzilla | why "@=" |
| 19:27.37 | Stanzilla | isn't it just "@" |
| 19:27.37 | Primer | target= |
| 19:27.46 | Primer | err dunno |
| 19:27.51 | Primer | operating from memory here |
| 19:27.53 | Stanzilla | would make more sense :p |
| 19:27.56 | Primer | sure |
| 19:27.58 | quiescens | i would have thought yeah |
| 19:28.01 | quiescens | it makes more sense |
| 19:28.02 | quiescens | lol |
| 19:28.13 | quiescens | plus it saves another character |
| 19:29.47 | Primer | what I'd really like is something like "conditional, target order" |
| 19:30.52 | quiescens | lets just make it turing complete |
| 19:30.53 | Primer | /cast [stance:0,@mouseover,@target,@player] Regrowth; [stance:1] Lacerate; [stance:3] Maim <-- for example |
| 19:31.21 | Primer | with Regrowth being a helpful spell, it should know that "help" is implied |
| 19:31.34 | Pneumatus | stance:0 is implicit, isnt it? |
| 19:31.47 | Primer | I don't think so |
| 19:31.54 | Primer | perhaps I mean [nostance] |
| 19:31.59 | Primer | but is that not the same? |
| 19:32.05 | Pneumatus | same amount of letters anyway |
| 19:32.09 | Pneumatus | so it if works :P |
| 19:32.11 | Primer | true |
| 19:32.23 | quiescens | noform |
| 19:32.25 | quiescens | ! |
| 19:32.44 | quiescens | i don't actually remember if that exists |
| 19:32.47 | Primer | it's just that I'm running out of bars for my druid, plus I'm not a clicker |
| 19:33.17 | quiescens | /cast moo |
| 19:33.25 | Primer | so I need these macros so that the same key can do different things depending on stance |
| 19:33.43 | Primer | and they're getting horribly complex |
| 19:34.39 | Pneumatus | why would you want to heal as feral? :P |
| 19:34.59 | Primer | myself, after combat |
| 19:35.04 | Primer | or whatever |
| 19:35.26 | Pneumatus | more importantly, why isnt the pvpobjectives frame centered in the screen |
| 19:35.30 | Pneumatus | it's annoying me now :< |
| 19:35.31 | Primer | my druid is only 66 anyhow |
| 19:37.12 | yoshimo | pneumatus, nothing an addon cant fix ;) |
| 19:37.29 | Pneumatus | true, if i can figure out the frame name ill reanchor it |
| 19:38.06 | Pneumatus | framestack doesnt tell me its name though :< |
| 19:41.35 | yoshimo | wasnt it worldstateframe or something similiar? |
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| 19:46.25 | Pneumatus | WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame possibly |
| 19:47.01 | Shadowed | it is |
| 19:48.31 | yoshimo | yes, that one is also used in capping , which allows you to move the pvp thing |
| 19:49.15 | Pneumatus | im guessing the default anchor must offset it to the right or something |
| 19:49.22 | Pneumatus | why on earth it's not centered is beyond me |
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| 19:58.40 | Primer | Anyone know if there's an event for a POI being removed from the map due to a quest completion? |
| 20:05.38 | Primer | I wish jnwhiteh was here |
| 20:05.42 | Primer | he'd surely know |
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| 20:16.20 | yoshimo | you still have to add new statusses in grid with the name of the spell you want to track instead of the id, havent you? |
| 20:16.43 | Pneumatus | i dont have to add any status :o |
| 20:16.51 | Pneumatus | gridstatusraiddebuff :) |
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| 20:18.19 | yoshimo | i know about that one, already suggested a few things there ;) |
| 20:20.43 | yoshimo | which country has WST as timezone? |
| 20:23.59 | asmodai | Australasia |
| 20:24.08 | asmodai | WST WST Western Australia |
| 20:25.01 | Yssaril | asmodai: i am considering adding more loot tables (just have to figure out a sane way to display them with no blizzard provided maps) |
| 20:25.42 | yoshimo | asmodai, do you happen to know when australia has patchday? |
| 20:26.05 | nevcairiel | same as US |
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| 20:26.47 | yoshimo | ah thx |
| 20:27.30 | nevcairiel | australia doesnt have their own servers |
| 20:27.40 | nevcairiel | the so called oceanic servers are pretty much in sync with US servers |
| 20:27.54 | durcyn | they do now, actually |
| 20:28.10 | durcyn | oceania |
| 20:31.09 | Repo | 10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r256 Rules/Engine.lua: Updating unit ID player on initialization (static) |
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| 20:45.32 | Repo | 10libdeformat-3-0: 03ckknight 04v1 * 0cb38e4 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1 |
| 20:54.04 | Shefki | durcyn: They have separate servers but they're hosted in the US> |
| 20:55.18 | nevcairiel | afaik they just have different time zones |
| 20:59.24 | durcyn | different logon server last i checked |
| 20:59.42 | durcyn | us.logon is just the states and mexico, is it not? |
| 21:01.53 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: first and last line of libdeformat-3.0 usage is nearly identical? |
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| 21:02.28 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: yea, doing a call on the library or calling Deformat is the same. |
| 21:02.39 | onaforeignshore | cool |
| 21:03.23 | onaforeignshore | just one question then - why have LibDeformat.Deformat at all then, why not just call the lib like the last line? |
| 21:03.30 | onaforeignshore | since there's only the 1 method |
| 21:03.48 | ckknight | up to the user of the lib. |
| 21:04.01 | ckknight | there's also LibDeformat.Test(), for instance |
| 21:04.15 | ckknight | not available in non-debug |
| 21:04.16 | ckknight | but still |
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| 21:04.36 | onaforeignshore | in everyday use though, it's only Deformat() :p |
| 21:04.59 | Shadowed | @roject LibDeformat-3-0 |
| 21:05.02 | ckknight | correct |
| 21:05.06 | ckknight | @project libdeformat-3-0 |
| 21:05.07 | Shadowed | @project libdeformat-3-0 |
| 21:05.10 | Repo | ckknight: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/. LibDeformat-3.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 minutes ago |
| 21:05.11 | Repo | Shadowed: http://www.wowace.com/addons/libdeformat-3-0/. LibDeformat-3.0. Game: WoW. ckknight (Manager/Author). Updated: 19 minutes ago |
| 21:05.24 | ckknight | Shadowed: feel free to review the code |
| 21:05.26 | NeoTron | is that a rewrite? |
| 21:05.30 | ckknight | NeoTron: basically. |
| 21:05.35 | ckknight | it should be a lot faster. |
| 21:05.39 | ckknight | and simpler\ |
| 21:05.41 | ckknight | and documented. |
| 21:06.00 | Shadowed | well |
| 21:06.04 | Shadowed | what's the point |
| 21:06.12 | ckknight | chat loot events. |
| 21:06.13 | Shadowed | It seems like it's basically a fancier version of string.format |
| 21:06.21 | ckknight | no, it's the exact opposite of string.format |
| 21:06.28 | NeoTron | it's string.deformat |
| 21:06.45 | ckknight | LibDeformat("Hello: friend", "Hello: %s") == "friend" |
| 21:06.46 | Shadowed | fancier version of taking string.format text and converting it into string.match text* |
| 21:06.53 | ckknight | correct, Shadowed |
| 21:07.01 | ckknight | but it works with fucked up shit like %1$s |
| 21:07.05 | ckknight | different positionings |
| 21:07.09 | ckknight | which is prevalent in other languages. |
| 21:09.57 | Fisker | i just ate hamburgers ckknight |
| 21:10.01 | ckknight | awesome |
| 21:10.09 | jnwhiteh | Primer: i have no idea =) |
| 21:10.23 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: any idea why packager still won't convert my luadoc into an API? |
| 21:10.34 | ckknight | oh yea, there was an issue |
| 21:10.43 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: what's your repo path? |
| 21:10.50 | onaforeignshore | @project guilder |
| 21:10.52 | Repo | onaforeignshore: http://www.wowace.com/addons/guilder/. Guilder. Game: WoW. onaforeignshore (Manager/Author), StingerSoft (Translator). Updated: 27 hours ago. Tickets: 1/5 |
| 21:10.55 | Primer | jnwhiteh: well, TomTom has better waypoint management than my crappy addon. I was relying on the button to still be there to delete the waypoint |
| 21:11.07 | jnwhiteh | he |
| 21:11.22 | Primer | jnwhiteh: I added the ability to set a waypoint from a POI, as TomTom does |
| 21:11.29 | onaforeignshore | http://hg.wowace.com/wow/guilder/mainline |
| 21:11.43 | Primer | but I have no way of managing it when it "goes away", other than to set another POI as the waypoint |
| 21:11.49 | jnwhiteh | yeah *shrug* |
| 21:12.16 | ckknight | k, onaforeignshore |
| 21:12.21 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: you're all good now. |
| 21:12.34 | ckknight | http://www.wowace.com/addons/guilder/pages/ |
| 21:13.06 | Primer | I've been meaning to add an interface for managing waypoints. Once I do that, I'll v1.0 my addon, as then it'll have everything I set out for it to have |
| 21:13.21 | krka | would be nice if tomtom maintaine a stack of active pois, and owners of pois could decide to hide or show pois, and let tomtom take care of remembering ordering |
| 21:13.25 | jnwhiteh | Primer: whats the addon? |
| 21:13.30 | jnwhiteh | krka: yeah, there's lots like that I'd want to do |
| 21:13.32 | jnwhiteh | just dont have the time atm. |
| 21:13.32 | Primer | jnwhiteh: FlightHUD |
| 21:13.36 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 21:13.57 | krka | alternatively put multiple pois on at the same time, but at different locations |
| 21:14.16 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: thanks :) |
| 21:14.18 | krka | would be useful if you're tracking multiple quest objectives at the same time |
| 21:14.42 | Primer | krka: mine could easily do that, but I've implemented POI tracking as "transient", meaning, one at a time |
| 21:14.43 | Fisker | jnwhiteh back in teh uk yet? |
| 21:14.55 | Torhal | ckknight: Numbers in for the month yet? |
| 21:14.58 | Primer | much like how you can register a QuestHelper callback to have it set the "active" quest |
| 21:15.06 | ckknight | Torhal: not just yet |
| 21:15.18 | Torhal | Alrighty |
| 21:15.32 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: not until the 6th |
| 21:20.10 | Fisker | damn |
| 21:23.30 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 04v1.10.10 * ca68aeb /: [new tag] tag as v1.10.10 |
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| 21:27.47 | Repo | 10parrot: 03profalbert 07master * v1.10.10-1-gecd15dc / (5 files in 2 directories): [+1 commit] upgrade to LibDeformat-3.0 and get rid of Ace2 for good |
| 21:32.10 | Tusk | how come no one has ever made same as tekKrush for BoP ?? |
| 21:35.50 | Repo | 10libgroup-1-0: 03onaforeignshore * r22 / (3 files in 2 directories): Added tag 1.0.1 for changeset b82855751b2c |
| 21:35.52 | Repo | added .docmeta and updated luadoc - first release with API on website (now that it's fixed :) |
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| 21:37.34 | Tusk | ok forget i'll just add it |
| 21:38.03 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: did that make the docs properly? |
| 21:38.16 | ckknight | profalbert: is LibDeformat-3.0 all good? |
| 21:38.46 | Repo | 10libgroup-1-0: 03onaforeignshore * r24 / (2 files in 2 directories): Added tag 1.0.2 for changeset 08a1238201fa |
| 21:38.47 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: yes, though I made a silly mistake :) |
| 21:38.47 | Repo | fixed luadoc - @return in stead of @returns |
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| 21:43.55 | orionshock | Shadowed: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44014 -- being marked as a Healer/DPS trinket :| |
| 21:44.05 | Shadowed | I know |
| 21:44.16 | orionshock | ah know issue |
| 21:44.39 | Kalroth | hey, it's a good resto shaman trinket! |
| 21:46.06 | Tusk | yeah you just don't right click on it |
| 21:59.20 | onaforeignshore | which is better to use in terms of garbage collection and speed? "some %s":format("thing") or format("some %s", "thing) or "some ".."thing"? |
| 22:05.11 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: all have about the same GC, for speed the 3rd method would probably be faster |
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| 22:14.43 | Repo | 10guilder: 03onaforeignshore * r137 / (5 files in 3 directories): Added tag 2.1.16 for changeset 8f489e0a1589 |
| 22:14.45 | Repo | luadoc fixes |
| 22:14.46 | Repo | minor error in Busy Responder - Test Message logic |
| 22:14.48 | Repo | localisation fixes in Monitor module |
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| 22:18.33 | onaforeignshore | orionshock: does that still hold true when assigning to variables, i.e. a = a.." thing" vs. a = format("%s thing", a) ? |
| 22:19.42 | onaforeignshore | reason I ask is because Shefki says concatenation (..) makes a new string to replace a, which then needs to be garbage collected |
| 22:20.11 | onaforeignshore | a = a..b vs. a = format("%s%s", a, b) |
| 22:21.48 | Gagorian | a .. b is faster |
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| 22:23.46 | Repo | 10quickstrat: 03naver * r6 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added location based logic. |
| 22:23.48 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: depends on what your doing. (a..b..c..d..e..f) is all done in one concatenate and creates one resulting string. format is better suited when you have several injections in the middle of another string. |
| 22:23.48 | Repo | Added locations to existing DB entries. |
| 22:24.05 | orionshock | that and a format is easier to read vs a long list or ... |
| 22:24.09 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.33 | orionshock | ie: combat log stuff is all done with :format() |
| 22:26.14 | Gagorian | But for a single concat, using format is about 3x slower |
| 22:26.33 | orionshock | true, because of the function call overhead |
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| 22:27.12 | onaforeignshore | and if the variables are strings and numbers? |
| 22:27.14 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: however don't let that deter you, lua's string manipulations are fast to begin with. |
| 22:27.58 | orionshock | onaforeignshore: write it the way it feels natural. remember you have to read it, so don't make it cryptic |
| 22:28.46 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: if you have a lot of strings, make a table and keep adding to it |
| 22:28.51 | ckknight | t[#t+1] = "alpha " |
| 22:28.53 | ckknight | t[#t+1] = 5 |
| 22:28.56 | ckknight | table.concat(t, "") |
| 22:29.09 | onaforeignshore | ShowMessage(L["%s is disabled"]:format("|cff00c0ff"..L["Version Checker"].."|r")) |
| 22:29.33 | ckknight | that looks fine. |
| 22:29.35 | onaforeignshore | I use a combination for clarity for localisation |
| 22:29.43 | ckknight | clarity is #1 |
| 22:29.50 | ckknight | well, maintainability is #1 |
| 22:29.54 | ckknight | clarity falls under that |
| 22:29.57 | Shadowed | Maybe I have localizers who are non-idiots but, I've never had issues with localizers and color codes |
| 22:30.08 | Shadowed | easier to just embed them generally |
| 22:30.13 | Gagorian | onaforeignshore: Well you only need to create that string once |
| 22:30.19 | Gagorian | So it's exactly the same how you do it |
| 22:30.52 | orionshock | Gagorian: however the 2nd is the addons name, could be used elsewhere. IMO just use 1 complete string. |
| 22:31.08 | orionshock | let the localisers figure it out :) |
| 22:32.09 | ckknight | open question: best/most fun tank to play? |
| 22:32.21 | orionshock | ckknight: druid :) |
| 22:32.50 | CrazyBenny | I really enjoy tanking as warrior lately ;) |
| 22:32.53 | ckknight | I've mostly done pally tanking, but if I have to reroll, I want to try something else |
| 22:33.13 | Gagorian | Well obviously you're gonna get at least one reply of each :p |
| 22:33.26 | ckknight | Gagorian: :P |
| 22:35.29 | Aeyan | I'd say warrior or DK, but maybe I'm a little biased |
| 22:35.44 | Aeyan | Druid is a fun solo class, but full time group tanking seems like it'd be boring |
| 22:36.04 | ckknight | the idea is I'd be spending 90%+ time in groups. |
| 22:36.55 | Aeyan | Maul, Lacerate, Mangle, repeat |
| 22:37.01 | Aeyan | Or swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe |
| 22:37.03 | Aeyan | Hehe |
| 22:37.11 | Aeyan | But I've never played one so I can't say |
| 22:37.13 | onaforeignshore | Druid tank is nice since you can do other things when offtanking and not having a target :p |
| 22:37.24 | Aeyan | True |
| 22:37.37 | onaforeignshore | plus kitty helps you run away quickly :p |
| 22:38.09 | ckknight | for me as a pally, it's consecrate, judgement, righteous defense on the healer, hand of salvation on the dumbass DPS that pulled, repeat |
| 22:38.32 | Aeyan | Warrior seems like a more complicated tank |
| 22:38.47 | Aeyan | DKs are fun if you like rotations and a few nifty tricks in the bag |
| 22:39.02 | ckknight | also, I'm thinking about making another poll. Same question as the current (level of respect), but provide the different archetypes of each class rather than just the class itself, e.g. Tank Paladin vs. Damage Paladin vs. Healing Paladin |
| 22:39.08 | Aeyan | and still top some DPS charts |
| 22:39.38 | ckknight | I top my DPS charts as a pally |
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| 22:39.51 | Aeyan | Yeah, not hard to do with a paladin either |
| 22:39.53 | ckknight | note, only lvl 44, but last run, I was 50% more than the next guy |
| 22:40.09 | ckknight | and 400% more than the worst DPS |
| 22:40.27 | haste | profalbert: no, I don't consider that a clean, not valid solution |
| 22:40.43 | onaforeignshore | warrior tanks have more interest since they have not only different specs, but within each spec can gear for different things, ie. avoidance tank |
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| 22:41.19 | Repo | 014aa36: Allow for variable anchoring, fix an issue with spell propagation during combat, fix an issue with 'do we know this spell' checking. |
| 22:41.35 | Repo | 09c576a: Don't queue a dead player as the next spell recipient, and fix texcoords for re-used sub-buttons |
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| 22:43.00 | Aeyan | If you're starting from level 1, I suppose discussing DK tanks is a moot point |
| 22:43.27 | Aeyan | If that's the case, I'd say warrior |
| 22:43.30 | onaforeignshore | lol - DKs require you to have at least one maxed character, don't they? |
| 22:43.37 | Aeyan | 55+ |
| 22:43.41 | ckknight | onaforeignshore: no issue there |
| 22:44.01 | Repo | 10quickstrat: 03naver * r7 / (2 files in 1 directory): Some minor bug fixes. |
| 22:44.55 | onaforeignshore | ckknight: just thought I'd mention it in case :) |
| 22:45.11 | onaforeignshore | if you want a quick to 80 tank, go DK |
| 22:45.30 | onaforeignshore | some nice abilities |
| 22:45.36 | ckknight | might be a possibility |
| 22:45.38 | onaforeignshore | but not much of a challenge tbh |
| 22:45.39 | ckknight | hmm |
| 22:45.43 | ckknight | not sure yet |
| 22:45.49 | Aeyan | It's my favorite |
| 22:45.49 | ckknight | we're gonna do a guild here at curse |
| 22:45.51 | onaforeignshore | warrior requires more thinking to tank with than DK |
| 22:45.53 | Aeyan | But warriors seem interesting too |
| 22:45.54 | ckknight | on a server that I don't play on |
| 22:48.03 | onaforeignshore | DKs can also regenerate their own health in certain tanking specs, so easy to heal and stay alive :p |
| 22:48.06 | ulic | ckknight: get them to pay for a transfer :) |
| 22:48.14 | Primer | I DK tank as blood |
| 22:48.16 | Antiarc | ckknight: Amusing that Curse was a guild website, and now a company, and now a guild. |
| 22:48.17 | ckknight | nah, I like my current server, ulic |
| 22:48.25 | Primer | but blood is not the best for AOE tanking |
| 22:48.29 | Xtek | Antiarc: I see what you did there. |
| 22:48.35 | ckknight | Antiarc: :P |
| 22:48.38 | Xtek | ulic: I think the point is that we kind of level/play together. |
| 22:48.58 | ckknight | and I call tank since Xtek already called healer |
| 22:49.00 | ckknight | and I hate DPS |
| 22:49.03 | ulic | oh so all rerolling, that would be fun. |
| 22:49.13 | ulic | I probably didn't scroll up enough. |
| 22:49.17 | Xtek | Yeah, levelling is easy anyways. |
| 22:49.25 | onaforeignshore | I would rather heal a warrior than a paladin or druid tank |
| 22:49.36 | Xtek | Pff. |
| 22:49.42 | Xtek | Druids are jokes. |
| 22:49.43 | ckknight | how so, onaforeignshore? |
| 22:49.46 | onaforeignshore | druids esp can be what I like to call "squishy" |
| 22:50.02 | onaforeignshore | warriors can withstand more burst damage |
| 22:50.02 | ckknight | throw some hots on, take a nap |
| 22:50.04 | Xtek | Druid tanking can be boring though. |
| 22:50.12 | Xtek | Swipe swipe swipe swipe, repeat |
| 22:50.24 | onaforeignshore | druids need to be specced just right or their health drops very quickly |
| 22:50.33 | Stanzilla | druid tanking is faceroll |
| 22:50.34 | onaforeignshore | and paladins range in-between |
| 22:50.42 | Antiarc | Are we seriously arguing about World of Hybridcraft class viability |
| 22:50.43 | onaforeignshore | from a healin PoV |
| 22:50.56 | Antiarc | Good druids, warriors, and paladins are all super-easy to heal |
| 22:50.58 | ulic | I need to start my own company so I can WoW at work. |
| 22:51.00 | Antiarc | Bad ones of any kind are super-hard to heal |
| 22:51.21 | ckknight | casts Holy Shield |
| 22:51.24 | onaforeignshore | Yes sir boss sir! |
| 22:51.24 | Xtek | Hah, my last 2 jobs I've been able to, been asked to play WoW at work. |
| 22:52.35 | koaschten | drools. http://www.techpowerup.com/111947/EVGA_Dual_LGA-1366_Motherboard_Pictured.html |
| 22:52.49 | onaforeignshore | think warrior, paladin and DK are easiest to gear - at least on my realm, cause there always more plate drops than anything else :p |
| 22:56.16 | Repo | New poll: http://www.wowace.com/polls/your-level-of-respect-for-wow-classes-by-archetype/ |
| 22:56.51 | Stanzilla | huge poll is huge |
| 22:57.20 | ckknight | truth |
| 22:57.22 | ckknight | fill it out. |
| 22:57.51 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 22:58.13 | onaforeignshore | lol - someone was bored :p |
| 22:58.25 | Stanzilla | you'd have to divide it into pvp and pve :P |
| 22:58.34 | Primer | poll is odd |
| 22:58.37 | Antiarc | Seriously, roll a hybrid |
| 22:58.44 | Antiarc | You'll change your mind 12 times before 80 |
| 22:58.47 | Primer | usually it should go best to worst, left to right |
| 22:58.49 | Antiarc | That way you have options |
| 22:59.01 | Primer | I wonder how many people will interpret it thusly |
| 22:59.03 | Xinhuan | Hunter - Melee Damage? |
| 22:59.04 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 22:59.17 | Cyrez | is the proud user of a hybrid mage |
| 22:59.18 | Cyrez | :) |
| 22:59.31 | onaforeignshore | I'm a healer/healer :P |
| 23:00.13 | Adremma | Primer: well, the entry for hunter - melee damage should serve as a sanity check for that |
| 23:01.24 | Primer | well, there's only 5 voters so far...4 of which are authors :) |
| 23:01.45 | onaforeignshore | anyway, as purl says, it's late :p |
| 23:01.52 | Primer | hehe everyone hates rogues :) |
| 23:01.52 | onaforeignshore | see you all later! have fun! |
| 23:02.29 | onaforeignshore | ~ugt |
| 23:02.30 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 23:02.39 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r210 Locales (7 files in 1 directory): Convert to use wowace localization system. |
| 23:03.11 | Groktar | why so much hate for feral dps? |
| 23:03.24 | Primer | hey, I gave it a 4 |
| 23:03.32 | Groktar | looks around to make sure KriLL3 isn't around |
| 23:03.47 | koaschten | wannabe rogues ^^ |
| 23:04.11 | Stanzilla | feral dps is the hardest to play! |
| 23:04.29 | Groktar | and ele shaman lower than enhancement shaman? |
| 23:04.33 | Groktar | enhancement is like |
| 23:04.38 | Groktar | the shittiest in the game |
| 23:05.29 | Groktar | so bad that our enh shaman for all of wotlk finally rerolled dk |
| 23:05.42 | Groktar | and did more dps on the dk than the shaman within two weeks of hitting 80 :( |
| 23:05.42 | Primer | I find it odd how blue posts talks about "interesting stats" (hit, in this case), and saying how you have to work at maintaining such stats, while they're continually dumbing the game down |
| 23:06.09 | Groktar | hehe |
| 23:06.35 | Groktar | i like the way that they're talking about making all tanks uncrittable by default in cat |
| 23:06.42 | Groktar | why not just make mobs not crit |
| 23:06.44 | Groktar | :p |
| 23:09.32 | pentium166 | because then you won't have mobs turning around and getting a crit for 50,000 on some rogue or shaman |
| 23:09.38 | pentium166 | and we can't have that |
| 23:09.38 | Fisker | ~ uft |
| 23:10.00 | Fisker | ~uft |
| 23:10.06 | Fisker | fu purl |
| 23:10.08 | Fisker | fffffffffuuuuuu- |
| 23:11.36 | Megalon | ficker u, Fisker |
| 23:11.41 | Megalon | fisker |
| 23:11.43 | Megalon | i mean :< |
| 23:12.02 | Groktar | flings a goa'uld at Fisker |
| 23:12.15 | Megalon | intercepts |
| 23:12.30 | Groktar | watches it burrow into Megalon's neck |
| 23:12.34 | Groktar | grovels before Megalon |
| 23:19.59 | Fisker | gould Groktar |
| 23:20.09 | Megalon | baths in power |
| 23:20.47 | Fisker | goulds Megalon |
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| 23:24.56 | ckknight | I rearranged the http://www.wowace.com/polls/your-level-of-respect-for-wow-classes-by-archetype/ poll choices to be easier to see the breakdown of tank vs. damage vs. healer |
| 23:25.08 | chiper | has anyone heard anything about blizz fixing the problem with mobs constantly trying to get behind the tank? |
| 23:25.23 | Fisker | not had the problem for a while myself |
| 23:25.32 | NeoTron | it's not fixed afaik |
| 23:25.56 | KriLL3 | I still have it, but I work around it |
| 23:26.01 | KriLL3 | *rimshot* |
| 23:26.06 | chiper | I remember it happening in back in 2.x and they fixed it, but ever since 3.3 it's been bitting us literally int he ass |
| 23:26.38 | Aeyan | Hunter melee damage? =P |
| 23:26.41 | KriLL3 | chiper: seems to happen if you move a bit too far from the mob, the key is to stand fairly close |
| 23:26.45 | NivFreak | chiper: they claimed it fixed, it's not |
| 23:27.24 | NivFreak | I assumed I just hadn't gotten a restart after the hotfix, but they did end up rebooting us twice since then, and nothing |
| 23:27.49 | chiper | so there was a blue post claiming it to be fixed? cause I couldnt even find that |
| 23:27.55 | NivFreak | yea, let me find it |
| 23:28.23 | KriLL3 | well if blue says it's fixed, it's fixed, right? any and all issues after that are "working as intended" |
| 23:29.42 | orionshock | KriLL3: no, don't trust anything you read on the forums from anyone even blue. HOwever you can trust blue more than green and green more than white :) |
| 23:30.09 | KriLL3 | orionshock: it's called sarcasm |
| 23:30.26 | orionshock | hehe, so was mine :) |
| 23:30.42 | KriLL3 | well you can't really trust blues... |
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| 23:32.53 | chiper | well I did finally find a thread on the EU forums about this http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=11824374057&postId=118231610991&sid=1#68 |
| 23:33.50 | chiper | ah, ok, found GC's response on it |
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| 23:34.14 | chiper | mind you, it was a month ago |
| 23:36.25 | NivFreak | hrmm, I couldn't find the respone that said it was hotfixed |
| 23:36.31 | NivFreak | which is odd |
| 23:36.48 | chiper | all I see are blue posts saying "a fix is coming" |
| 23:37.08 | NivFreak | I read one specifically that said it was fixed |
| 23:37.20 | NivFreak | unless it was bibi lying ;) |
| 23:40.46 | KriLL3 | chiper: did they add "soon"? |
| 23:40.54 | KriLL3 | SC2 will also be out "soon" |
| 23:41.01 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6923 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): add locale |
| 23:41.03 | chiper | nope, no soon⢠|
| 23:41.12 | KriLL3 | so it's longer than soon :< |
| 23:41.18 | chiper | lol |
| 23:41.32 | KriLL3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon win |
| 23:41.59 | KriLL3 | "'Soon' does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future." |
| 23:43.09 | NivFreak | that bug sucks ass, but I've been able to do anub25h w/ it just fine (as the add tank) |
| 23:43.37 | chiper | if it's just one or two ads it's not too much of a problem |
| 23:43.37 | *** join/#wowace kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 23:43.50 | chiper | but when I'm tanking trash packs of 5 or more in heroics, it seriously sucks |
| 23:43.58 | NivFreak | have you tanked anub on 25h? :P |
| 23:44.11 | Primer | Anyone know if it's possible to obtain a character's calendar? I know the iphone has an app that can do this, but it seems it's actually made by blizz |
| 23:44.18 | NivFreak | 4 adds at a time, all 400% hasted in speed |
| 23:44.24 | NivFreak | or is it 800%? I forget |
| 23:44.26 | chiper | I've done the adds on normal |
| 23:44.33 | chiper | but not on heroic, no |
| 23:44.42 | NivFreak | it's night and day :) |
| 23:45.02 | NivFreak | the most obnoxious place might be if you have to move saurfang for some reason |
| 23:45.15 | NivFreak | you just can't get him turned properly afterward |
| 23:45.16 | NivFreak | hehe |
| 23:50.14 | Xinhuan | [07:48:58] [2. Trade] [Littlewand]: gs is for nubs that dont know how to get spec approriate gear |
| 23:50.14 | Xinhuan | [07:48:59] [2. Trade] [Humanenemy]: This GearScore era will end soon. New mod that's 10x better and just released. |
| 23:50.23 | Xinhuan | [07:49:16] [2. Trade] [Littlewand]: whats it called |
| 23:50.23 | Xinhuan | [07:49:24] [2. Trade] [Humanenemy]: Elitist Group, Check it up on wowinterface |
| 23:50.35 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if i should facepalm or laugh |
| 23:50.43 | Funkeh` | sigh |
| 23:50.51 | Funkeh` | If I wanted it fucking translated |
| 23:50.58 | Funkeh` | I would have added it to the translation tabl |
| 23:51.02 | Funkeh` | retarded fucking koreans |
| 23:51.16 | chiper | twitches and starts to get stabby stabby |
| 23:51.47 | Xinhuan | but but koreans can put out 600 apm! |
| 23:54.04 | Shadowed | hahaha Xinhuan |
| 23:54.10 | Shadowed | that's hilarious |
| 23:54.36 | Shadowed | Funkeh`: Poor you, what happened now? |
| 23:55.01 | Funkeh` | useless translating of an alpha mod |
