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| 00:09.21 | ckknight | is there a better way to get UTC time than time(date("!*t"))? |
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| 00:13.20 | Primer | use perl! |
| 00:13.23 | Primer | runs |
| 00:19.58 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * Beta4-5-g1478422 / (22 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 00:20.00 | Repo | 1478422: Changed the paths of the localization files since the directory was renamed. |
| 00:20.01 | Repo | 3106d68: Changed the website url in the X-Website field |
| 00:20.02 | Repo | 2cbffdd: Renamed the directory Locals to Locales |
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| 00:29.04 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6936 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Fix toggle Options. koKR Update |
| 00:31.30 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6937 Citadel (8 files in 2 directories): |
| 00:31.32 | Repo | Citadel: Rename the Putricide Trash module, fix an issue with Mortal Wound messages sometimes spamming. |
| 00:34.49 | chiper | what's the best viewport addon these days? |
| 00:51.17 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: I had already fixed the stack repeating |
| 00:52.07 | vhaarr | Funkeh`: previously it registered for both SPELL_AURA_APPLIED and SPELL_AURA_APPLIED_DOSE, that's why it was reported double |
| 00:52.07 | vhaarr | _DOSE is enough |
| 00:52.13 | Funkeh` | ah |
| 00:52.15 | Funkeh` | ok |
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| 00:55.26 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6938 Citadel (8 files in 2 directories): |
| 00:55.28 | Repo | Citadel/Gunship: Change mage trigger, as it unfortunately isn't always yelled. |
| 00:55.29 | Repo | Citadel/Dogs: Remove stacking fix, was always fixed. |
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| 00:56.52 | chiper | hrm, there aren't many viewport addons, are there? best I can find is viewporter |
| 00:57.29 | SunTsu | Why would you restrict your viewing zone deliberately? |
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| 00:58.34 | chiper | to move the centerpoint (and your character's position) further up the screen |
| 00:58.49 | chiper | ie, so you can see the fire you're standing in |
| 00:59.30 | SunTsu | OK, I centeres the screen to my eyes ;) |
| 00:59.33 | SunTsu | centered even |
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| 01:03.43 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r190 / (2 files in 1 directory): AllPlayed: |
| 01:03.45 | Repo | - More Dewdrop-less menu work |
| 01:10.41 | pompy | is there another addon similar to http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14471-LiveDamage.html ? |
| 01:15.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r6939 Citadel/Locales (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: |
| 01:15.35 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
| 01:16.07 | vhaarr | chiper: I seem to remember CT having a viewport addon |
| 01:16.23 | chiper | vhaarr: yeah, I just dunno if it still works |
| 01:16.32 | vhaarr | I don't see why not |
| 01:16.32 | chiper | last update was 2006 |
| 01:16.37 | vhaarr | ah okay :p |
| 01:17.22 | chiper | this wasnt actually for me, it's for an epicadvice answer |
| 01:18.35 | SunTsu | @describe allstats |
| 01:18.36 | Repo | SunTsu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/allstats/. Broker_AllStats. LDB data source displaying character stats |
| 01:19.22 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v0.12-beta-6-g1b9a7f3 / (3 files in 2 directories): [+4 commits] |
| 01:19.24 | Repo | 1b9a7f3: Changed experience structure, it's now 5-man dungeons, 10 man raids, 25 man raids, heroic 10 man raids, heroic 25 man raids |
| 01:19.25 | Repo | 1f62cbd: Fixed being able to click on random dungeon names in the experience tag to toggle categories open/close |
| 01:19.27 | Repo | 5ffead0: Fixed errors in raid summary when viewing someone who has a rating |
| 01:19.27 | Repo | b5f9667: Added sorting to the database list, it will now prioritize yourself and your group showing them at the top of the list |
| 01:19.50 | SunTsu | chiper: that could be something alike |
| 01:20.35 | chiper | SunTsu: huh? |
| 01:20.44 | SunTsu | I don't get it, twice fishing quest to get the SW crocodilisk and twice a pet crocodilisk as reward. with my other fisherman I never got a single one |
| 01:21.14 | SunTsu | chiper: er, wrong person ;) |
| 01:21.45 | SunTsu | pompy: take a look at http://www.wowace.com/addons/allstats/ |
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| 01:23.24 | chiper | heads for home |
| 01:23.32 | SunTsu | bye chiper |
| 01:24.47 | pompy | SunTsu: nah, something that shows you ur current sp,ap, etc when u have procs up and buffs |
| 01:26.42 | SunTsu | pompy: it does exactly that |
| 01:27.06 | SunTsu | pompy: it shows them in ldb text and shuffles the ones you choose |
| 01:27.12 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6940 Citadel/Precious.lua: Citadel: Renaming didn't quite work. |
| 01:28.43 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6941 Citadel/Saurfang.lua: |
| 01:28.45 | Repo | * Removed the wrong thing last time, add back Boiling Blood and remove the Nova instead. |
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| 02:06.40 | Groktar | heh |
| 02:06.49 | Groktar | so i was tanking ahn'kahet |
| 02:07.07 | Groktar | and when we got to the last boss i turned around i ran when he started casting insanity |
| 02:07.12 | Groktar | all the way to the front of the instance |
| 02:07.18 | Groktar | the pug went apeshit |
| 02:10.20 | NeoTron | so what happens if you do that? |
| 02:10.29 | NeoTron | just stay in the insanity world? |
| 02:10.44 | SunTsu | they have to go to the entrance and kill him there |
| 02:15.09 | WobWork | so the question is... why did you do that? =P |
| 02:16.08 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6942 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Gunship: Add portals, mage respawn |
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| 02:18.51 | SunTsu | WobWork: because he is Groktar |
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| 02:33.38 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6943 Citadel (8 files in 2 directories): * Gunship: Add bit flag. |
| 02:33.40 | Repo | * Saurfang: Remove unused locale. |
| 02:33.41 | Repo | * Update translations. |
| 02:34.18 | Repo | 10gmi-plus-lib-st (experimental): 03ddumont * r2 / (5 files in 1 directory): First Commit |
| 02:35.05 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6944 Citadel/Putricide_Dogs.lua: Fix ticket #170. |
| 02:36.45 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6945 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
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| 02:58.45 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont * r136 Core.lua: |
| 02:59.00 | Repo | Allow to hook original DoCellUpdate by attaching it to the table. |
| 03:02.46 | Repo | 10arl: 03pompachomp * r2792 Datamine.lua: reworded a message printed to chat. |
| 03:18.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03ananhaid * r6946 Citadel/Locales (2 files in 1 directory): BigWigs: |
| 03:18.13 | Repo | - zhCN/zhTW update. |
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| 03:52.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6947 Citadel (4 files in 1 directory): Citadel: Cleanup some colors/sounds |
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| 04:04.10 | Repo | 10gmi-plus-lib-st (experimental): 03ddumont * r7 GuildMI.lua: using rowframe instead |
| 04:05.07 | Repo | 10gmi-plus-lib-st (experimental): 03ddumont * r8 GuildMI.lua: using rowframe instead |
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| 04:17.34 | Repo | 10grid-status-raid-debuff: 03azelkeeber * r254 / (2 files in 2 directories): -Update IcecrownCitadel |
| 04:17.36 | Repo | -Fix some bugs. |
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| 04:24.18 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6948 Citadel/Festergut.lua: |
| 04:24.20 | Repo | Citadel/Festergut: Rename gas spore to explode for clarity, cooldown bar remains the same name. |
| 04:24.21 | Repo | Change engage trigger |
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| 04:41.09 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v0.13-beta * 764f9f7 /: [new tag, +2 commits] Tagging as beta 0.13 |
| 04:45.07 | Repo | 10lib-st: 03ddumont 04v3.8 * r137 : Tagging as v3.8 |
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| 04:49.08 | Repo | Citadel/Festergut: Remove the inhale delayed messages, useless. |
| 04:49.09 | Repo | Fix the gas spore timer. |
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| 05:28.47 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6950 Citadel/Festergut.lua: |
| 05:28.49 | Repo | Citadel/Festergut: Fixup inhale/blight/bloat timers + warning sounds/colors |
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| 05:38.21 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6951 Citadel/Festergut.lua: |
| 05:38.23 | Repo | Citadel/Festergut: Don't show the bloat bar until the stacks hit 6. |
| 05:39.06 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6952 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Gunship: Fix portals |
| 05:42.08 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6953 Citadel/Gunship.lua: |
| 05:42.10 | Repo | Citadel/Gunship: Stop copy/pasting the colors+sounds 7destiny |
| 05:44.02 | Shadowed | Do any non-authors actually contribute something useful to bigwigs repo Funkeh` |
| 05:44.11 | Shadowed | or do they just generally break it or do something stupid |
| 05:44.30 | Funkeh` | they learn by doing stupid things then doing useful things |
| 05:46.46 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6954 Citadel (6 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Putricide: add 10min enrage |
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| 06:17.30 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6955 / (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 06:17.32 | Repo | Citadel/Rotface: Add flashshake on injection target, alert for ooze explode. |
| 06:17.33 | Repo | Core: bump toc |
| 06:20.54 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03funkydude 04r6956-release * r6956 : |
| 06:20.56 | Repo | Temporary release to get lots of new timers out there, expect a better one soon. |
| 06:30.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6957 Citadel/Locales/koKR.lua: koKR Update |
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| 06:38.53 | Shefki | Shadowed: You around? |
| 06:39.49 | Shadowed | yea whats up Shefki |
| 06:40.02 | Shefki | You remember how I said that the BossFrames weren't updated for me? |
| 06:40.06 | Shefki | I found out why. |
| 06:40.12 | Shefki | Figured you'd be interested. |
| 06:40.14 | Shadowed | Yea they are targettarget units |
| 06:40.18 | Shadowed | you have to poll for updates |
| 06:40.24 | Shefki | Ohh it gets better. |
| 06:40.29 | Shadowed | oh? |
| 06:40.32 | Shefki | I mean the official blizzard ones weren't updating. |
| 06:40.37 | Shadowed | that's weird |
| 06:40.54 | Shefki | So Blizzard's Frames are built on top of the generic UnitFrame stuff. |
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| 06:41.10 | Shadowed | They're built using the target of target templates as a base if I recall? |
| 06:41.12 | Shefki | And then the BossFrames are built on top of the TargetFrame stuff which is built on top of the UnitFrame stuff. |
| 06:41.20 | Shefki | Just straight Target actually. |
| 06:41.23 | Shefki | This is where they fucked up. |
| 06:41.45 | Shefki | The base unitframe design unsets the OnUpdate event if predictedHealth is turned off. |
| 06:41.51 | Shadowed | oh |
| 06:41.52 | Shefki | And depends upon events. |
| 06:41.53 | Shadowed | haha |
| 06:41.56 | Shefki | I have it turned off. |
| 06:42.02 | Shefki | No boss frame updates as a result. |
| 06:42.18 | Shadowed | That's amusing |
| 06:43.30 | Shadowed | My guess is, the boss units were an afterthought |
| 06:43.39 | Shadowed | someone probably said they were a good idea so they cobbled them into the UI |
| 06:44.33 | Shefki | Probably. |
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| 06:45.34 | Shadowed | Certainly an interesting bug |
| 06:45.36 | Shefki | Wow this code is such a mess. |
| 06:45.39 | Shefki | Ok it gets better. |
| 06:45.46 | Shefki | There is a TargetFrame_HealthUpdate function. |
| 06:45.51 | Shefki | That gets set on every BossFrame. |
| 06:45.54 | Shefki | That's supposed to update it. |
| 06:46.00 | Shefki | But it doesn't becuase it's wrapped in: |
| 06:46.06 | Shefki | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.10 | Shefki | lawl |
| 06:46.19 | Shadowed | I'm not sure why they wrapped it in the target frame code though |
| 06:46.29 | Shadowed | I wonder if maybe it's a bug that they don't have events |
| 06:46.30 | Shadowed | shrugs |
| 06:46.58 | Shefki | I have no idea what they were doing here. This code is so hard to follow becuase they've got things implemented on top of things that were never designed to be reused. |
| 06:47.51 | Arrowmaster | this is what happens when all the senior devs get pulled off of WoW and sent to work on the secret project |
| 06:48.18 | Arrowmaster | the interns fuck everything up to hell and back |
| 06:48.36 | Shadowed | It's mostly that they don't have anyone reviewing the code I think |
| 06:48.53 | Shadowed | It was only recently in 3.2 that they started to follow their own coding standards again |
| 06:50.20 | Shefki | And HealBot sucks. |
| 06:50.44 | Shefki | He doesn't keep track of which Blizzard frames he's hiding. |
| 06:50.45 | Shadowed | That's nothing new :> |
| 06:51.05 | Shefki | And then based on his own configs he hides or shows them on every PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD event. |
| 06:51.15 | Shefki | So players come to me bitching that their player frame keeps showing up that they have set to hide. |
| 06:51.25 | Shefki | Becuase they didn't set it to hide in bloody HealBot. |
| 06:52.07 | Shadowed | yup |
| 06:52.11 | Shadowed | I had that issue a lot with XPerl |
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| 06:52.31 | Shadowed | I'd have people say that their Blizzard buff frames were showing because XPerl would force show it |
| 06:52.38 | Shefki | Until some user figured it out I just kept saying. Verify this with no addons running but Pitbull and they all never come back. |
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| 06:55.09 | digmouse | what is the timezone of wowprogress? GMT -8? |
| 06:58.31 | Shefki | I'm still shocked that no mini-update has been done to fix the Isle of Conquest map issue. |
| 06:58.40 | Shefki | Wouldn't even require translation work. |
| 06:58.46 | Shefki | They just need to fix the texture they broke. |
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| 07:15.33 | Groktar | wtb outfitter type addon that doesn't freak out over titan's grip dual spec |
| 07:20.18 | Groktar | . |
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| 07:36.35 | orionshock | did CC3 get retired? |
| 07:37.31 | Arrowmaster | probably, CC4 has been released for a while |
| 07:39.02 | orionshock | cc3 is the only thing that works on linux :( |
| 07:40.43 | orionshock | so on that note, anyone got a solution to doing updates off curse on linux other than by hand? |
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| 07:49.36 | orionshock | on another note, Anyone know why the LDB Display authors decided to reinvent the meanings of words when handling the different text display fields in LDB? there is a Major difference between a "Label" and "text" field. |
| 07:53.12 | Bruners | steev_: i don't think i was done with them, at least not the placement |
| 07:59.39 | Bruners | orionshock: you could write a script that updates from git and svn |
| 07:59.48 | winkiller | orionshock: why would it be reinvented? |
| 08:00.06 | Bruners | orionshock: for LDB people tend to not read the documentation, myself included |
| 08:00.07 | winkiller | in VB5 there was already label as "Name:" and text as "myname" |
| 08:00.20 | winkiller | it's not the other way round, is it? |
| 08:00.32 | winkiller | then it's indeed a /facepalm |
| 08:00.36 | winkiller | and I didn't even notice |
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| 08:05.21 | orionshock | because a "label" is a static non moving PREFIX to another string easily called a "value". where as "text" is a generic default title of an object. These 2 idea are mutually exclusive. |
| 08:06.09 | orionshock | "you put a Label on a can of food, however, it is just simply the base, you have to put a Value on that label for things to make sense. |
| 08:07.07 | sb|work | morning |
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| 08:10.49 | Bruners | steev_: actually only making them on party would be enough |
| 08:15.54 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Pettigrow * r6958 Citadel/Locales/frFR.lua: frFR Update |
| 08:15.56 | sb|work | so is it 5 or 10 tries on putricide? (normal mode also?) |
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| 08:34.48 | Xinhuan | 10 |
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| 08:46.07 | Repo | 10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.4-beta-4-gac5d09d DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] prevent empty string output |
| 08:49.38 | mitch0 | are the reward point handout guys still on vacation? |
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| 08:57.08 | Fisker | i'd like a billion reward points please |
| 08:57.33 | asmodai | You won't |
| 08:58.29 | Fisker | i will |
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| 08:58.47 | asmodai | You shall not get them! |
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| 09:12.47 | zoktar | anyone know if its possible to keep proffesion links from varius of your own characters somewhere, say i want to link my blacksmithing from my alt, or say i have 4 characters with 4 proffessions and i want to link em all in trade. doable? |
| 09:13.13 | olafski | yes |
| 09:13.24 | olafski | carbonite can do it afaik, so it's possible ;) |
| 09:13.36 | olafski | maybe something like altoholic does it too |
| 09:15.57 | orionshock | zoktar: GnomishYellowPages |
| 09:16.02 | orionshock | zoktar: or GuildCraft |
| 09:16.26 | winkiller | or Armory |
| 09:16.29 | winkiller | for the full package |
| 09:16.46 | orionshock | naa, Armory is offline, if ur looking for online u need mods |
| 09:16.54 | winkiller | the addon "Armory" |
| 09:17.01 | winkiller | silly name |
| 09:17.03 | winkiller | I know :P |
| 09:17.06 | Superfly_ | is wowace.com down? |
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| 09:17.42 | winkiller | http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/wowace.com |
| 09:17.44 | winkiller | down! |
| 09:17.59 | evl | What's cheaper when wanting to disable an OnUpdate, doing SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) or simply checking a flag inside the update function? |
| 09:18.11 | Superfly_ | lol nice site :D |
| 09:18.29 | [Ammo] | evl: hide the frame |
| 09:18.36 | [Ammo] | that will stop the onupdate |
| 09:18.42 | evl | [Ammo]; I can't, i'm running other events on the same frame |
| 09:18.48 | [Ammo] | events still get triggered |
| 09:18.51 | [Ammo] | onupdaet is stopped |
| 09:18.54 | evl | I'm showing stuff in the frame :) |
| 09:19.05 | [Ammo] | then setscript nil |
| 09:19.07 | evl | I'm only using onUpdate to work around the delay on GetWeaponEnchantInfo |
| 09:19.10 | [Ammo] | and setscript func |
| 09:20.13 | [Ammo] | or use a separate onupdate frame |
| 09:20.19 | evl | How do strings get compiled in lua, will a if (b == "value") cause "value" to be created at each invocation? |
| 09:20.53 | evl | [Ammo]: I'm only basically doing CLEU->Wait for 1 sec with OnUpdate->Disable OnUpdate |
| 09:22.05 | evl | Does any event fire when a party/raid member goes AFK? |
| 09:22.11 | Shadowed | Nope have fun polling |
| 09:22.50 | Shadowed | PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED will give arg1 for the unit that changed (yes despite the fact that it says players) but it's inconsistent |
| 09:22.57 | Shadowed | the only way you can tell 100% for sure is polling |
| 09:23.07 | evl | Gah, I was hoping i'd get around that :( |
| 09:23.27 | evl | I have a raid status monitor showing how many people are dead/afk/offline etc. and so far I've been polling at 1 second intervals |
| 09:23.38 | Shadowed | That's your only option |
| 09:24.08 | winkiller | iirc the last thing I used before grid seemed like updating more every 5-10sec :P |
| 09:24.25 | orionshock | i thought the player model update event fired often enough to scan it |
| 09:25.26 | koaschten_ | scrolls through his buffer and notices curse client isn't down for only him. |
| 09:25.29 | koaschten_ | so wussap?? |
| 09:27.08 | evl | orionshock: but does a unit_model_update (i presume that's what you meant) fire when someone goes afk/offline/dies? |
| 09:27.25 | orionshock | don't remember |
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| 09:28.20 | evl | Guess I'll have to check |
| 09:28.41 | Shadowed | Not that I recall |
| 09:28.48 | Shadowed | and UNIT_MODEL_UPDATE shouldn't be firing if someone is OOR |
| 09:29.00 | Shadowed | It's really not that inefficient to do a simple 1s-2s poll for AFK |
| 09:29.10 | Shadowed | if you really are that worried, you can always disable it when they enter combat |
| 09:29.37 | Shadowed | for the AFK portion at least, offline/death can be monitored through health |
| 09:30.18 | evl | I'd like it to run during combat too, it's nice to see the number of dead people before I hightail out :D |
| 09:30.28 | Shadowed | As I said, it's not that inefficient |
| 09:30.41 | Shadowed | looping through 25 people and checking a few flags is trivial, I wouldn't really worry about it |
| 09:36.07 | evl | Anything cheaper than UNIT_AURA for player only or isn't it expensive? |
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| 09:37.04 | Fisker | stares at PProvost |
| 09:37.54 | Shadowed | You really do not need to worry about performance that much |
| 09:38.04 | Shadowed | Don't do anything idiotic like create a lot of tables and you're fine |
| 09:38.05 | Elkano | UNIT_AURA && arg1==player |
| 09:39.11 | Shadowed | 98% of the time it's better to have simple and clean code, than it is to have something that is the absolute peak of efficiency |
| 09:40.04 | Elkano | especially when you use a compiler ^^ don't try to be smarter that thatone ;) |
| 09:40.12 | Elkano | ...than... |
| 09:40.22 | winkiller | wait.. lua is compiled? |
| 09:40.30 | Elkano | didn't say so |
| 09:40.32 | Shadowed | Elk means in general :p |
| 09:40.39 | winkiller | weird reference then :) |
| 09:40.47 | Shadowed | not really |
| 09:40.54 | winkiller | I'M IN UR WOW, COMPILIN' UR LUA |
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| 09:41.33 | Shadowed | Design your code well and effiency will follow, try and get fancy and you are probably going to fail horribly for very little gain |
| 09:41.44 | winkiller | ooh, fancy is shiny :( |
| 09:42.01 | Elkano | see: http://www.linux-kongress.org/2009/slides/compiler_survey_felix_von_leitner.pdf |
| 09:42.08 | winkiller | hehe, I know those |
| 09:42.16 | Elkano | it's fun to see what some compilers can do ^^ |
| 09:42.17 | winkiller | but he's got some real edge cases |
| 09:42.27 | winkiller | and after all it's c |
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| 09:42.48 | Elkano | yeah, I know... I'm currently writing a java compiler for university |
| 09:42.59 | winkiller | I've never seen so much optimization weirdness with any of Java or the script languages |
| 09:43.09 | winkiller | o_O |
| 09:43.11 | winkiller | why that? |
| 09:43.30 | Elkano | compiler construction lecture ^^ |
| 09:43.31 | SqueeG_ | what happened to wowace? |
| 09:43.41 | winkiller | I'ts going doooooown |
| 09:43.43 | winkiller | no clue |
| 09:44.09 | winkiller | Elkano: but why java? isn't that a bit harsh? |
| 09:44.18 | winkiller | the open-black-thingy didn't work for years |
| 09:44.25 | olafski | it does sound a bit harsh :P |
| 09:44.26 | Elkano | well, minijava, a small subset |
| 09:44.32 | winkiller | k |
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| 09:44.39 | asmodai | someone woke up this morning and found this: http://i.imgur.com/gAz0d.jpg |
| 09:44.44 | Elkano | and not for virtual machine but native |
| 09:44.46 | winkiller | is not so well-versed in compiler stuff, sadly |
| 09:45.08 | olafski | who was it, asmodai? |
| 09:45.12 | winkiller | ouch |
| 09:45.19 | sb|work | meh bad Elkano |
| 09:45.32 | sb|work | i don't like him... :P |
| 09:45.50 | Elkano | current step is getting everything into a libfirm representaton to start optimizing |
| 09:46.19 | olafski | are you using some tool to make the compiler? or doing it by hand? |
| 09:46.21 | winkiller | what semester and uni are you, anyway? |
| 09:46.42 | asmodai | olafski: some fella named Meditate it seems |
| 09:46.47 | asmodai | no idea which server |
| 09:46.54 | Elkano | way too high ;) and "University of Saarland" |
| 09:46.59 | winkiller | captain obvious striikes again :P |
| 09:47.07 | winkiller | oh, didn't know you were German |
| 09:47.47 | olafski | asmodai: ah ok, so not someone you know |
| 09:48.08 | olafski | I woke up a few weeks ago to a scene like that =0 |
| 09:48.18 | winkiller | pats his shiny new authenticator |
| 09:48.27 | winkiller | actually, was more for the pet.. but :P |
| 09:48.52 | Lysithea | if it wouldnt be for those numbers when logging in |
| 09:48.54 | Lysithea | id get one |
| 09:48.59 | Lysithea | but im way to lazy for that |
| 09:49.00 | winkiller | lol |
| 09:49.01 | asmodai | Heh, is yours with the corehound pop art on the authenticator? |
| 09:49.05 | winkiller | yep |
| 09:49.10 | winkiller | only got it 2-3 weeks ago |
| 09:49.19 | asmodai | Then I guess all the SC2 art ones are replaced by now |
| 09:49.35 | winkiller | I thought it was bigger |
| 09:49.37 | olafski | I have a core hound one as well +) |
| 09:49.48 | winkiller | and I'm -now already- living in constant fear the battery may die |
| 09:49.52 | winkiller | when I DC during a raid :P |
| 09:49.56 | winkiller | so much for security |
| 09:50.08 | olafski | lol |
| 09:50.09 | winkiller | rather have a public-key-auth |
| 09:50.14 | winkiller | with password |
| 09:50.24 | winkiller | but wow has to be so damn enduserfriendly :< |
| 09:50.55 | winkiller | actually that'd be nice at some point. a game with open standards. |
| 09:51.04 | winkiller | jabber for chat, ssh for login :ÃP |
| 09:51.09 | olafski | :P |
| 09:51.33 | winkiller | and webdav access to your bank |
| 09:51.48 | olafski | I got everything the "hacker" took and more back from the GM department btw.. those guys rock ;p |
| 09:51.57 | winkiller | and more? lol |
| 09:52.04 | olafski | yeah they made some mistakes |
| 09:52.12 | olafski | they sent everything my bank/auction alt had to another char as well |
| 09:52.31 | olafski | and I got the gems the guy bought with my emblems _as_well_ as the emblems themselves |
| 09:52.37 | winkiller | I dread the GM who would work on my case |
| 09:52.45 | winkiller | all slots on main server full |
| 09:52.49 | olafski | same here |
| 09:52.55 | olafski | all chars filled with junk too |
| 09:52.56 | winkiller | and every toon is "banker" for another profession |
| 09:53.08 | winkiller | if they have anything but a "restory with one click" button |
| 09:53.12 | olafski | well not anymore, I took the time to sift through those 100+ mails I got from them and sell the useless stuff |
| 09:53.12 | winkiller | he is fucked |
| 09:53.24 | olafski | I assume they have something like that |
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| 09:53.34 | winkiller | probably :) |
| 09:53.40 | olafski | considering they can just look at what IP did it and then attempt to reverse everything they did |
| 09:53.58 | winkiller | yeah, too bad they're not publishing such facts |
| 09:54.02 | olafski | they stripped every one of my chars, they even sold the bags that were in the bank |
| 09:54.05 | winkiller | how they snapshot and stuff |
| 09:54.14 | olafski | and deleted one char to make space for a "welcome friend to our gold site!" char |
| 09:54.20 | winkiller | ouch |
| 09:54.25 | winkiller | oh, which one? |
| 09:54.29 | winkiller | did it reorder your toons? |
| 09:54.31 | olafski | the one in the lowest spot |
| 09:54.34 | winkiller | ah k |
| 09:54.41 | olafski | got that char back with all its possessions too |
| 09:54.46 | winkiller | because when my server got a hardware upgrade in 2006 or 2007 |
| 09:54.53 | winkiller | they reordered my chars |
| 09:54.58 | winkiller | quite annoying |
| 09:54.59 | olafski | yep it did that |
| 09:55.14 | winkiller | I'mstill not used to it :( |
| 09:55.15 | olafski | it was only a lvl 61 shaman.. but still |
| 09:56.18 | olafski | oO my chars on my main realm are on average lvl 72.3 ;) |
| 09:56.35 | winkiller | really want me to calc now? |
| 09:56.45 | olafski | heh that's up to you :P |
| 09:56.53 | olafski | I aim to have a lvl 80 of each class before cataclysm |
| 09:57.03 | winkiller | 74.6 |
| 09:57.07 | olafski | nice :P |
| 09:57.22 | winkiller | if I replace my 58 banker DK with my pally from 2nd acc |
| 09:57.22 | olafski | I started leveling my bank alt now, since there are no spots available for a dedicated bank alt |
| 09:57.29 | winkiller | 75.4 |
| 09:57.47 | winkiller | as I said, every toon except main is a banker for shit |
| 09:57.53 | olafski | +) |
| 09:57.57 | winkiller | I'm such an e-messie :( |
| 09:58.04 | winkiller | guildy called me nuts just yesterday |
| 09:58.18 | winkiller | "I need Runecloth" - "How many do you need, I have 58 stacks" - "..." |
| 09:58.20 | olafski | I've seen some player's banks and I'm like "where are your fun items?" :P |
| 09:58.24 | SunTsu | 75.6, but I'm working on the last two classes ;) |
| 09:58.42 | SunTsu | er 74.6 |
| 09:58.53 | winkiller | (80+80+80+80+80+78+70+70+70+66+70)/11 here |
| 09:58.58 | olafski | my bank is filled with useless crap.. I have the DK starter armor+weapon, items from every holiday etc |
| 09:59.03 | winkiller | one of every class, plus an extra 80 rogue |
| 09:59.03 | olafski | :) |
| 09:59.11 | olafski | 80+80+80+80+80+80+72+70+61+40 :) |
| 09:59.20 | winkiller | this is getting too easy |
| 09:59.21 | olafski | I started 2 weeks before wotlk came out |
| 09:59.23 | SunTsu | winkiller: how did you get 11 toons onto a single realm? ;) |
| 09:59.25 | winkiller | lol |
| 09:59.29 | winkiller | SunTsu: second acc :P |
| 09:59.36 | winkiller | when I had my main at 60, I still had no alt |
| 09:59.45 | winkiller | because I dreaded levelling |
| 09:59.54 | olafski | I prefer leveling :< |
| 09:59.58 | SunTsu | I only have one toon - and 9 bank chars |
| 09:59.59 | olafski | I dread the day my 10th char hits 80 |
| 10:00.06 | olafski | then I will have no more incentive to play :< |
| 10:00.12 | winkiller | mhm, 11 for me |
| 10:00.12 | koaschten_ | glad i am not the only bank alt messy :X |
| 10:00.18 | winkiller | as I did double rogue to 80 |
| 10:00.20 | winkiller | horde/ally |
| 10:00.22 | winkiller | and then only the rest |
| 10:00.31 | koaschten_ | but i really need to get rid of those 4k infinite dust sometime soon :/ |
| 10:00.35 | winkiller | lol |
| 10:01.02 | winkiller | one bank tab full of Frost..cloth thingy |
| 10:01.02 | SunTsu | I'm at (8*80+52+54)/10 currently |
| 10:01.05 | koaschten_ | i guess i could just DESTROY the ah price.... |
| 10:01.06 | winkiller | for 2 level 70 Tailors |
| 10:01.07 | koaschten_ | but well |
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| 10:02.13 | olafski | http://130.89.168.156/temp/screenshots/wow-wotlk/deathski_bank.jpg <-- my mess.. I still think it's rather organised though |
| 10:02.22 | SunTsu | koaschten_: you wouldn't, because nobody buys infinite dust anymore - hut they buy frostweave bags ;) |
| 10:02.24 | olafski | wtb a proper gem bag though :< |
| 10:02.56 | koaschten_ | hmm really |
| 10:03.13 | winkiller | whoa, get bagnon already :P |
| 10:03.17 | koaschten_ | i guess i have some 30 stacks cloths lyiing around |
| 10:03.28 | SunTsu | koaschten_: Everybody is stuffed up with enchanting mats since 3.3 |
| 10:03.34 | olafski | I don't like one-bag addons :< |
| 10:03.54 | olafski | I prefer to see where everything is in the actual bags |
| 10:03.57 | koaschten_ | because sorting gems into one bag and noticing 16 slots wasnt enough is better |
| 10:03.59 | Kalroth | olafski: Same :) |
| 10:04.18 | Kalroth | onebag addons tend to fuck your inventory up so bad |
| 10:04.19 | olafski | I've contemplated getting one many times but every time I decide not to |
| 10:04.20 | SunTsu | olafski: baggins is quite nice, you can define bags and categories in them |
| 10:05.11 | SunTsu | so it's not a single bag but very easy to find everything you need |
| 10:05.19 | koaschten_ | i am back at using bagnon, after arkinv took up too much cpu with the filters i set :X |
| 10:05.24 | olafski | I would like some kind of search option in my bags |
| 10:05.42 | winkiller | Kalroth: how do they fuck it up? I got my sorting method :) |
| 10:05.52 | winkiller | I hate the waste of padding and borders |
| 10:05.57 | Kalroth | winkiller: Try to load your UI without your onebag addon |
| 10:06.00 | SunTsu | olafski: Baggins does that. And with Baggins_Anywhere you can search all your toon's bags and bank |
| 10:06.07 | winkiller | Kalroth: simple, i dont :) |
| 10:06.17 | Kalroth | winkiller: I do, on patch days and expansion etc. |
| 10:06.21 | winkiller | nah |
| 10:06.34 | winkiller | seen it fail twice or so |
| 10:06.36 | winkiller | in a year |
| 10:06.47 | winkiller | I agree, the sorting might be weird |
| 10:06.47 | koaschten_ | because that happens once a week, Kalroth, bad argument |
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| 10:07.04 | winkiller | but seriously, I just cannot grasp it anymore |
| 10:07.07 | winkiller | with normal bags |
| 10:07.08 | Kalroth | no, it usually only happens when I need it |
| 10:07.08 | olafski | bleh no screenshots on the baggins site on curse |
| 10:07.19 | winkiller | 4*22 inv and 7*20 in bank |
| 10:07.21 | Kalroth | besides, it's not like it's hard to maintain normal bags |
| 10:07.26 | winkiller | that would be.. 14 open windows |
| 10:07.28 | winkiller | instead of 2 |
| 10:07.29 | SunTsu | Kalroth: it is |
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| 10:07.38 | winkiller | you have no idea... |
| 10:07.39 | Kalroth | sorry, it may be for some :) |
| 10:07.39 | olafski | most of the stuff in my bags never changes |
| 10:07.51 | rbarreiros | o/ |
| 10:07.57 | olafski | I run some heroics, get some junk, visit a vendor and AutoVendor automatically sells all of it |
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| 10:08.06 | olafski | so I'm back at where I started except with some more gold and tokens |
| 10:08.13 | SunTsu | Kalroth: if you have lots of stuff and equipment sets of different size |
| 10:08.24 | Kalroth | I got 4 equipment sets and raiding gear |
| 10:08.28 | Kalroth | yet I dont get confused |
| 10:08.40 | Kalroth | raiding consumeables* |
| 10:08.53 | winkiller | http://img96.imageshack.us/i/invthara.png/ |
| 10:08.58 | olafski | I have one very important question: if I install Baggins now, will it reorder my bags as soon as I log in? or can I decide not to like it, take it away and it'll be as before/ |
| 10:09.08 | olafski | if it's the latter I will give it a go :P |
| 10:09.13 | Kalroth | winkiller: now that is messy :) |
| 10:09.20 | winkiller | =) |
| 10:09.26 | koaschten_ | the slot assignment in the bags wont change |
| 10:09.30 | SunTsu | Changing equipment always leaves gaps, which are filled by random junk, so changing equipment again will place things in different places, and so on |
| 10:09.30 | olafski | yeah that looks more messy than my inventory imo |
| 10:09.39 | koaschten_ | it just is going to look awkward once you install a onebag mod and dont resort |
| 10:09.44 | SunTsu | olafski: no, it won't |
| 10:10.13 | olafski | koaschten_: mkay, but I just want to get a feel for what the addon does |
| 10:10.15 | SunTsu | olafski: baggins won't reorder anything at all, it just shows things differently. You can use it to restack, but that's it |
| 10:10.22 | olafski | maybe I'll just try it on a char on a different realm |
| 10:10.27 | koaschten_ | it will usually just create a big window ;) |
| 10:10.36 | koaschten_ | olafski if you dont move around stuff |
| 10:10.42 | koaschten_ | your ordering without mod wont be changed |
| 10:10.53 | koaschten_ | you really can't do anything bad |
| 10:11.01 | olafski | hm |
| 10:11.07 | olafski | here we go :) |
| 10:11.08 | winkiller | I like bagnon more |
| 10:11.18 | krka | I like bacon |
| 10:11.28 | winkiller | although to have to the perfect bag addon, I'd have to write my own I guess |
| 10:11.45 | krka | I for one like ArkInventory |
| 10:11.56 | winkiller | I used that for a while, iirc |
| 10:12.06 | winkiller | when I had my druid with 3 gear sets |
| 10:13.29 | olafski | hm. so far not too bad.. I like the category bags instead of actual bags |
| 10:13.42 | SunTsu | I don't like one bag addons, because looking at them makes it hard for me to see anything at all. It's like my glare is hitting a wall. I like Baggins' way to have virtual bags and categories in there. I even defined categories for differend equipment slots, so I don't have to search myself |
| 10:14.02 | SunTsu | olafski: you can break it down even more if you like |
| 10:14.12 | winkiller | yeah, in theory the category bags are swesome |
| 10:14.19 | winkiller | but I got lost in my rules |
| 10:14.27 | winkiller | so now it's back to manual stacking :/ |
| 10:14.47 | krka | I only have like 5-6 categories |
| 10:14.53 | krka | probably could use 2-3 more |
| 10:14.54 | winkiller | imho category thingy doesn't work with agreater number of alts |
| 10:14.57 | winkiller | too much hassle |
| 10:15.07 | winkiller | it's fine if you have only like 2 "main" chars |
| 10:15.11 | SunTsu | winkiller: for me it works quite fine |
| 10:15.19 | winkiller | but if you spread your time around 5 toons |
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| 10:15.29 | winkiller | It took hours to config Baggins or ArkInv for my druid |
| 10:15.35 | winkiller | so I never did it for the others |
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| 10:16.17 | Silowyi | hey does anyone know if the Rotface/Festergut Acidic Blood hotfix went live in the U.S. yet? Or does it need a server restart |
| 10:16.22 | olafski | I don't really see an option to make my own virtual bag |
| 10:16.56 | SunTsu | winkiller: I just made generic categories like an armor bag with "head" "feet" and such and a weapons bag with "twohanded" and "onehanded", so it fits with all toons |
| 10:17.10 | SunTsu | olafski: open the bag/category manager |
| 10:17.38 | SunTsu | everything going further will be a hassle, yeah |
| 10:17.48 | olafski | ah.. had to rightclick a bag :) |
| 10:17.50 | winkiller | mhm yeah |
| 10:17.55 | winkiller | but.. if I have 3 gear sets |
| 10:18.00 | winkiller | I want em separate |
| 10:18.06 | SunTsu | winkiller: Why? |
| 10:18.12 | winkiller | just "gear" would include random greed stuff won in instances |
| 10:18.22 | winkiller | well, because I want to |
| 10:18.43 | winkiller | and I can distinguish "just gear" by looking at the blue/purple border as well |
| 10:19.36 | krka | winkiller: i just separate my sets by itemrack name |
| 10:19.48 | SunTsu | winkiller: yeah, but the new won stuff is marked as just that: "new" |
| 10:19.49 | krka | and have another gear-"bag" with all other gear |
| 10:20.31 | winkiller | anyway, too many personal tastes |
| 10:20.35 | Silowyi | a gear bag that has all armor and weapons under ilvl 201 is very useful for making sure you sell/disenchant all those silly quest rewards 5 man loots you don't need too. :) |
| 10:20.37 | SunTsu | sure |
| 10:20.37 | winkiller | as Kalroth said, mine looks messy :) |
| 10:21.36 | koaschten_ | i definitly had too many rules in ArkInv |
| 10:22.31 | krka | if i have too many bags with just 1 or 2 things in it, i try to unify |
| 10:22.41 | krka | if i have too many bags with 20+ things, i try to split up |
| 10:22.43 | koaschten_ | but it was great to break off vendor trash, class reagents etc |
| 10:22.53 | olafski | heh. when opening my bank, the baggins windows start overlapping |
| 10:23.17 | koaschten_ | then resize them? or move them? ;) |
| 10:23.27 | koaschten_ | (or increase the ingame resolution) |
| 10:24.02 | olafski | resolution other than native would be a bad idea |
| 10:24.06 | olafski | I scaled them down to 0.8 ;) |
| 10:24.20 | SunTsu | olafski: you can change the anhor points of baggins' bags, so they spare some parts of the screen or take up what they didn't before |
| 10:24.31 | SunTsu | anchor points even |
| 10:28.29 | olafski | this is quite customizable.. I'm trying to make a tabard bag :P |
| 10:29.05 | SunTsu | olafski: yeah, that's what I like about it |
| 10:29.38 | olafski | can't find tabards though :P |
| 10:30.22 | SunTsu | I normally find them easily, baggins puts them under "junk" *g* |
| 10:31.11 | koaschten_ | if you are carrying tabards in your bags you are bad |
| 10:31.20 | koaschten_ | you wear ONE for style or reputation gain |
| 10:31.26 | koaschten_ | and the rest is at the tabard vendor ;) |
| 10:35.18 | olafski | I keep them in my bank |
| 10:35.28 | olafski | as I said, I have a mess in my bank |
| 10:36.02 | SunTsu | Oh, I never saw that ace3 port of baggins, I sure will have to try that later |
| 10:36.04 | olafski | there, removed baggins :P |
| 10:36.15 | SunTsu | but for now I have to be going, bye |
| 10:36.19 | olafski | cya :) |
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| 11:03.45 | QuietRiots | So I wonder - what are the accepted ways to promote an addon? I feel like DungeonMate (name-drop?) is nearly to the stage where I'm not ashamed of its shortcommings and want to shop it around. |
| 11:04.11 | QuietRiots | shortcomings* (I think? It's too late to spell.) |
| 11:06.46 | QuietRiots | Is it acceptable to advertise it in trade chat? Guild chat? Since DungeonMate is aimed at 5-man instance groups, maybe I can advertise it at the end of successful PUGs? |
| 11:07.23 | QuietRiots | Basically I feel like a lot of people are looking for this kind of addon, but I'm not sure they can find it. |
| 11:08.34 | eblume | Argh - wrong name. |
| 11:08.43 | yoshimo | @describe dungeonmate |
| 11:08.46 | Repo | yoshimo: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonmate/. DungeonMate. Swiss Army knife for instances, including player tracking, ignore buttons, loot tracking, notes, and more. |
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| 11:20.00 | Repo | 10atlasloot-enhanced: 03Hegarol * r2492 / (4 files in 4 directories): - ICC loot is complete, even Heroic |
| 11:22.21 | winkiller | eblume: just curious, what battlegroup are you in? I've not encountered someone twice since random dungeons are in |
| 11:24.23 | eblume | winkiller, same thing here, but you never know! |
| 11:24.38 | eblume | I mean, there has to be a finite nonzero chance of encountering the same person twice. |
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| 11:25.25 | eblume | It's good for other things too, though, such as the loot tracking, the talent checking, gear checking (which I hate but people want), etc. |
| 11:25.26 | winkiller | yeah, but then again I don't care :) |
| 11:25.29 | winkiller | 4manned HoL yesterday |
| 11:25.36 | winkiller | with 2*1.5k dps |
| 11:25.46 | winkiller | and me.. 1.5k as warr tank *shurg* |
| 11:26.39 | eblume | Well I'm going to head to sleep, but if anyone has any thoughts on the addon promotion topic, feel free to ping me with it and I'll respond in the AM |
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| 11:27.26 | Groktar | oh sweet |
| 11:27.26 | Groktar | Deathbringers Will trinket will now proc haste as a replacement for armor penetration. |
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| 11:28.17 | Zyn | my DK doesn't like that change |
| 11:28.25 | Groktar | it's a good change |
| 11:28.44 | Groktar | because there's so much arp in icc |
| 11:29.13 | Groktar | most people who like arp will probably be capping it through gera |
| 11:29.15 | Groktar | *gear |
| 11:29.42 | Groktar | i mean, it would have fit perfectly into my fury set right now |
| 11:29.48 | asmodai | In World of Warcraft: Cataclysm, haste will also increase the rate at which you gain energy, runes, and focus. Retribution paladins and Enhancement shaman will have a talent that allows them to take advantage of this benefit. o_O |
| 11:30.01 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: welcome to august 2008 |
| 11:30.14 | asmodai | wonders how that would affect my enhancement shaman |
| 11:30.15 | Groktar | but by the time i'm in just normal icc gera |
| 11:30.19 | Groktar | *gear |
| 11:30.25 | Groktar | i'll probably have like 1100 w/o trying |
| 11:30.54 | asmodai | Gnarfoz: Why? It refers to the way Cataclysm will probably change it |
| 11:30.57 | Gnarfoz | some shoes dropped in icc10 yesterday, two sockets, str, sta and ArP+Expertise |
| 11:31.12 | Gnarfoz | asmodai: I'm saying that was announced at Blizzcon. :) |
| 11:31.26 | asmodai | That would still be 2009 :P |
| 11:31.32 | Gnarfoz | yeah, whatever |
| 11:31.42 | Gnarfoz | $last_year was not updated |
| 11:31.43 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 11:31.50 | Groktar | anyway, when 4.0 hits icc will be pretty rofl anyway |
| 11:32.02 | Gnarfoz | the leech king |
| 11:32.18 | sb|work | Groktar: you mean because of goblins, right? :p |
| 11:32.27 | Groktar | ... |
| 11:32.31 | sb|work | :) |
| 11:35.03 | Groktar | is talking to Gnarfoz now |
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| 11:37.38 | dieck | is there a auto-garbage-sell addon that will sell "non-wearable soulbounds"? e.g. if I choose a plate armor as quest reward (as warlock char) |
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| 11:39.45 | winkiller | I'd be too paranoid for such a thing |
| 11:39.52 | winkiller | my Rogue still has Axes as 1/450 :) |
| 11:40.41 | Fisker | orionshockmen |
| 11:43.56 | SunTsu | dieck: if you find something like that, let me know ;) |
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| 11:45.49 | Fisker | ~seen orionshock |
| 11:45.51 | purl | orionshock is currently on #wowace (2d 45m 30s) #curseforge (2d 45m 30s). Has said a total of 30 messages. Is idling for 2h 18m 26s, last said: 'don't remember'. |
| 11:46.18 | Fisker | come on |
| 11:46.30 | Fisker | how can a tank be afk while getting invited to the dungeon? |
| 11:46.38 | Fisker | THere's like a 2 second queue for tanks lol |
| 11:48.11 | Grum | he saw you were in the group and /wristed |
| 11:48.22 | SunTsu | Fisker: yesterday it was 8 seconds, time enough to go away |
| 11:50.24 | Fisker | trashcan SunTsu |
| 11:52.53 | SunTsu | Fisker: that one sells greys |
| 11:54.36 | SunTsu | Fisker: dieck was looking for something that sells quest blues, all that is soul bound and you can't wear |
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| 11:54.49 | Groktar | ok, in 264 gear only |
| 11:54.55 | Groktar | nothing from heroic |
| 11:55.21 | Grum | Groktar: you right now? :D |
| 11:55.24 | Groktar | i still have great ap and crit |
| 11:55.34 | Groktar | and hard capped arp |
| 11:55.51 | Groktar | removing arp from deathbringer's will is a very, very good thing |
| 11:58.29 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Spinebreaker&cn=Chubbsterami&gn=CTU <-whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 11:59.27 | SunTsu | Fisker: you look unskilled |
| 11:59.58 | Fisker | not me |
| 12:00.26 | Fisker | he uses divine plea and drinks between packs |
| 12:00.31 | Groktar | that's an impressive amount of badness |
| 12:01.33 | Groktar | wonders if heroic daily has reset |
| 12:01.39 | Groktar | needs two frost badges to get his 2pc bonus |
| 12:02.19 | koaschten_ | if its 3 am or later at your place, it reset Groktar ;) |
| 12:02.32 | Grum | i love giving paladin tanks PWS .. it so rapes their mana :p |
| 12:02.41 | Groktar | woot woot |
| 12:02.47 | Groktar | queues as tank |
| 12:03.37 | koaschten_ | i queue on my bad feral alt as tank and then leave just to screw others over for my 15min wait time on my dd main |
| 12:04.39 | SunTsu | koaschten_: that works until you end up on more ignore lists |
| 12:04.51 | sb|work | well they won't know it was him |
| 12:05.03 | sb|work | because its just the "tank did not respond" window :p |
| 12:05.05 | koaschten_ | i just don't accept, i let it time out ;) |
| 12:05.10 | koaschten_ | coughs. |
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| 12:05.24 | SunTsu | koaschten_: ah, OK, that will work |
| 12:05.48 | koaschten_ | but as an excuse i did 15 random heroics yesterday and bought my alt 2 new rings ,) |
| 12:06.22 | dieck | SunTsu: I HATE people that accept, join the dungeon, and leave. Or go offline. Or afk. If they would have timed out, or declined, the group is "first in list" until a replacement is found. otherwise, they have to re-search |
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| 12:07.57 | SunTsu | dieck: so do I, most leave when they see it's Oculus ;) |
| 12:08.58 | Gnarfoz | dieck: except that groups that lose people while already in an instance also get high priority |
| 12:09.04 | krka | you can't see which one it is before you accept, right? |
| 12:09.45 | Gnarfoz | Grum: rapes mana how? mana regen from DP and BoSanc is not affected by that at all :< |
| 12:10.55 | Grum | Gnarfoz: yeah but lots of tank-mana also comes from being healed :P |
| 12:11.04 | Grum | and not getting damage means that just falls away :P |
| 12:11.07 | SunTsu | Gnarfoz: they get less mana by getting less healing because damage is absorbed, not healed away |
| 12:11.35 | Gnarfoz | SunTsu: did you read at all :X |
| 12:12.06 | Gnarfoz | Grum: lots of... that's why people only take 1/2 SA points :< |
| 12:12.42 | Gnarfoz | I don't go oom in heroics, either, and it's not like I take much damage there that could be healed |
| 12:12.44 | Grum | ah well, lots of, enough to make it annoying for a paladin tank in a heroic :D |
| 12:12.57 | Grum | Gnarfoz: i guess i've seen sucky paladin tanks then :D |
| 12:14.05 | koaschten_ | haha awesome |
| 12:14.11 | koaschten_ | i am queueing as tank |
| 12:15.51 | orionshock | ping Fisker ? |
| 12:16.19 | koaschten_ | and so far the group didnt get assembled 4 times |
| 12:16.24 | koaschten_ | 3 times because a dd was afk |
| 12:16.35 | koaschten_ | and once because a healer instantly declined |
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| 12:17.01 | sb|work | koaschten_: go, work something! |
| 12:17.05 | koaschten_ | and then i get into halls of reflection with my undergeared bear and the healer leaves :/ |
| 12:17.20 | koaschten_ | i tried, but my professor didnt come in today |
| 12:17.21 | koaschten_ | :( |
| 12:17.28 | koaschten_ | bad weather and stuff |
| 12:17.32 | SunTsu | koaschten_: what's your ilevel with that bear? |
| 12:17.40 | sb|work | bad weather? wait for tomorrow then :p |
| 12:17.51 | koaschten_ | ~226 i'd guess |
| 12:18.09 | koaschten_ | but not even 30k hp |
| 12:18.14 | koaschten_ | and HoR is rough |
| 12:18.37 | sb|work | well switch to bear form then :/ |
| 12:18.41 | Grum | mmm with full 226 you should have ~34-35k hp orso (if you gem/enchant nicely) |
| 12:18.59 | Grum | and get fortitude :p |
| 12:19.10 | koaschten_ | that would require a priest ;) |
| 12:19.16 | SunTsu | and drums of forgotten kings |
| 12:19.18 | Grum | or scrolls of fortitude? |
| 12:19.19 | sb|work | and tell your priest to train more than rank 1! |
| 12:20.09 | koaschten_ | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Nazjatar&cn=Baerin |
| 12:20.24 | winkiller | interesting name |
| 12:20.24 | koaschten_ | and yes, i have no idea how to properly play a bear but i can tank fine |
| 12:20.30 | koaschten_ | ;) |
| 12:20.32 | winkiller | swipe, swipe, swipe |
| 12:20.37 | sb|work | rare gems??!?!?! |
| 12:20.44 | koaschten_ | swipe + maul ! |
| 12:20.52 | koaschten_ | sure, its my 4th lvl80 |
| 12:20.54 | winkiller | maul is pro already |
| 12:21.05 | SunTsu | still ilevel 226 should be enough, it drops ilevel 232 items at last |
| 12:21.07 | koaschten_ | which i only play for frost emblems ;) |
| 12:21.10 | Gnarfoz | stuck on Nazjatar now, heh |
| 12:21.15 | winkiller | my 4th alt has 4t9 and 3t9 |
| 12:21.24 | winkiller | silly game |
| 12:21.44 | koaschten_ | probably should spend some badges on the armor trinket sometime |
| 12:22.20 | koaschten_ | and on the name... ursa wasn't available ;) |
| 12:22.55 | winkiller | pf |
| 12:22.59 | winkiller | you still with FtH, btw? |
| 12:23.10 | koaschten_ | no |
| 12:23.55 | asmodai | wait, koaschten_ is Daemona? |
| 12:24.23 | koaschten_ | you win as many laundry equip as you can carry asmodai |
| 12:24.33 | asmodai | koaschten_: woot! (I think...) |
| 12:24.49 | winkiller | good job not noticing nick changes for the past 2y, asmodai :P |
| 12:25.32 | asmodai | I did wonder where Daemona left, but that was only a few weeks ago. |
| 12:26.00 | SunTsu | yeah, there was a Daemona around here not long ago |
| 12:26.08 | koaschten_ | i drew a line when the officers prepared line up for icc25 and valued my 3 years with the guild less than my main vs an alt in the 2nd icc25 guild grp |
| 12:26.20 | asmodai | and Dec was hectic for most people. Plus I remember someone moving house |
| 12:26.31 | winkiller | o_O |
| 12:26.44 | winkiller | sounds weird idd |
| 12:26.44 | asmodai | That's my excuse and I am sticking to it |
| 12:27.25 | koaschten_ | honestly i could care less if you know who i am and what guild i am in |
| 12:27.28 | koaschten_ | ;) |
| 12:27.40 | asmodai | but but but |
| 12:27.43 | asmodai | you're like speshul |
| 12:27.50 | Gnarfoz | it's the beginning of the end, I venture you either quit before cataclysm or shortly after reaching 85! :D |
| 12:27.53 | koaschten_ | thats why i hand out cookies. |
| 12:28.19 | winkiller | yum, cookies |
| 12:28.32 | koaschten_ | guess i should look around for a new guild, but i really dont feel like it currently. |
| 12:28.40 | winkiller | I so know that feeling :P |
| 12:28.56 | koaschten_ | i havent been f*cked with that badly. and not really missing something currently |
| 12:29.09 | winkiller | after mine crumbled I ended up guildless for the first time since level 55 and was nice for a month |
| 12:29.29 | koaschten_ | It's great the officer base decisions on stuff you have no influence on |
| 12:29.42 | koaschten_ | - like provider acting up disconnecting you during beasts and eating stomps |
| 12:29.58 | winkiller | what I still don't really get is guilds that work with a good portion of same folks since 2005 |
| 12:30.23 | winkiller | that's nearly as rare as rl buddies with the same level of play |
| 12:30.48 | koaschten_ | - or during summer while doing a 7/7 job for 6 weeks logging on at 20.00 when you get home and stay for freya progress on a bad laptop and obviously failing, option if i hadn't been there: call the raid over |
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| 12:31.11 | koaschten_ | they tried to get rid of me since august obviously when they started recruiting rogues |
| 12:31.24 | koaschten_ | i survived 6 trials that either got kicked for being bad |
| 12:31.25 | SunTsu | winkiller: I really don't mind being guildless, there are enough pugs for every raid instance |
| 12:31.31 | winkiller | I miss /g |
| 12:31.37 | koaschten_ | or not getting used to the raid schedule and expected performance |
| 12:31.38 | winkiller | that was the hardest reason |
| 12:31.47 | koaschten_ | they all left with better gear then i have |
| 12:31.48 | winkiller | hehe |
| 12:31.50 | koaschten_ | \o/ |
| 12:31.53 | winkiller | bad luck :/ |
| 12:32.04 | koaschten_ | and their reason for not slotting me for icc25 was "your gear sucks" |
| 12:32.07 | koaschten_ | way to go |
| 12:32.08 | koaschten_ | ... |
| 12:32.34 | winkiller | this so reminds me of Karazhan. think I still had half blues after being exalted for a month |
| 12:33.14 | koaschten_ | but they never cared that i still was trying to run uld10 every week for a shot at a trinket upgrade, but never did a officer help... beside the one time the trinket drop and the officer said another one should take the trinket |
| 12:33.22 | koaschten_ | i am done with for the horde |
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| 12:33.57 | koaschten_ | did i mention the player that got is was a trial and isnt with for the horde anymore either? |
| 12:33.57 | winkiller | sounds awesome |
| 12:34.38 | koaschten_ | pretty awesome yes. |
| 12:34.52 | SunTsu | .o0( I liked having /random + common sense as the only loot distribution system ) |
| 12:35.25 | koaschten_ | thats the same it worked with for the horde, but officers tended to favour people and modified it to "players a, b and c roll" |
| 12:35.53 | koaschten_ | if i get into raiding again, definitly only loot council |
| 12:36.04 | winkiller | hm, isn't that basically the same? |
| 12:36.08 | winkiller | never seen much LC != officers |
| 12:36.15 | Myrroddin | who Phanx |
| 12:36.32 | winkiller | whois or #phanx? |
| 12:36.32 | koaschten_ | no, you can exclude players that would get a greater upgrade from an item than people a b and c |
| 12:36.52 | winkiller | hm? now I'm lost |
| 12:37.07 | winkiller | what I wanted to say.. when I see Loot Council, it's mostly the officers of the guild |
| 12:37.16 | winkiller | so where'd be the difference to what you just said? |
| 12:37.19 | koaschten_ | like player a b and c already have heroic death choice but roll on normal death choice while player d and e still use jolnir runestone and darkmoon card greatness ;) |
| 12:37.24 | winkiller | if you were excluded anywyy |
| 12:38.03 | koaschten_ | but its nothing to get upset about |
| 12:38.06 | koaschten_ | not anymore |
| 12:38.20 | koaschten_ | they are loot whoring idiots and i am done with them. |
| 12:38.27 | Myrroddin | ~seen DathRarhek |
| 12:38.28 | purl | i haven't seen 'dathrarhek', Myrroddin |
| 12:38.29 | winkiller | fair enough :) |
| 12:38.51 | winkiller | hits NRPE with a stick |
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| 12:51.50 | Groktar | hmm |
| 12:52.02 | Groktar | what does an npc death look like in the combat log |
| 12:52.15 | Groktar | UNIT_DIED |
| 12:52.16 | Groktar | nm |
| 12:54.18 | quiescens | has anyone had a thing where all their instances have no "expire" time? |
| 12:54.21 | sb|work | koaschten_: i don't have mjolnir / deaths choice an my alt, QQ!, do something now! :p |
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| 13:01.06 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.24 * 5836dd4 /: [new tag, +1 commits] v1.1.24 |
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| 13:02.21 | koaschten_ | beat 14 month of DMC:G sb|work ,) |
| 13:03.00 | koaschten_ | in a review spending those 15k gold 1 week into the addon was definitly a good investment |
| 13:03.15 | Repo | 10smartres2 (experimental): 03myrroddin * r59 / (3 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 7 lines) |
| 13:03.17 | Repo | added optional battle res (Druid's Rebirth) support |
| 13:03.18 | Repo | fixed the colour, display, errors, etc, with test bars |
| 13:03.20 | Repo | changed the display order of options for the res bars |
| 13:03.21 | Repo | bulleted the credits in the Credits tab |
| 13:03.41 | Grum | koaschten_: 15k gold, week, addon? huh :D |
| 13:04.02 | koaschten_ | scroll up and read the trinket discussion |
| 13:04.24 | koaschten_ | and replace addon with current expansion//patch 3.0.1 |
| 13:05.28 | Myrroddin | SmartRes2 is now considered functionally complete. some features still to be enabled. ENJOY! |
| 13:05.34 | sb|work | koaschten_: hmm 14m - i got mine later, but didn't get a replacement so far :o |
| 13:06.37 | sb|work | (don't tell me to go to FoS to get the trinket... just don't.. :p) |
| 13:07.05 | Groktar | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/y6e2nefhrza0re3m/sum/damageDone/ |
| 13:07.09 | Groktar | what a gloriously defective log |
| 13:07.25 | sb|work | nerf warrior |
| 13:07.58 | Groktar | hehe |
| 13:08.06 | Groktar | i actually did like 8600 |
| 13:08.26 | sb|work | so i should write "haha you suck" instead? ;) |
| 13:08.33 | sb|work | whats wrong there? |
| 13:08.33 | Fisker | slaps Groktar around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:08.48 | Grum | Groktar: that shadowpriest sucks :P |
| 13:08.55 | Grum | that or his gear =) |
| 13:09.10 | Groktar | how can you tell? |
| 13:09.27 | Fisker | that's impossible Groktar ! |
| 13:09.53 | Stanzilla | uhhh sucky priest |
| 13:09.59 | Repo | 10sell-o-matic: 03Silmano 04v1.1.25 * 0495685 /: [new tag, +1 commits] v1.1.25 |
| 13:10.08 | Groktar | i just want to know how you can tell |
| 13:10.20 | Stanzilla | damage is too low |
| 13:10.23 | Groktar | he's probably helping on blood beasts |
| 13:10.32 | Groktar | that would fuck over any class with dots |
| 13:10.35 | Stanzilla | I do that, too and have 8800 dps |
| 13:11.04 | Groktar | can you link one of your saurfang parses? |
| 13:11.11 | Stanzilla | yeah sec |
| 13:11.12 | Groktar | i want to compare |
| 13:11.35 | sb|work | mh, our shadow only got 6500dps ffs, maybe i should kick him |
| 13:12.13 | Stanzilla | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-dw29j2clq826bfdk/sum/damageDone/?s=11305&e=11563 |
| 13:13.34 | Groktar | oh good, you're using lots of Vampirberührung |
| 13:13.54 | Stanzilla | that's vampiric touch and yes |
| 13:14.09 | Groktar | omg i love the german word for shadow word pain |
| 13:14.34 | Repo | 10splitter (experimental): 03Grayal * r108 / (2 files in 1 directory): first version |
| 13:14.45 | Fisker | http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17112/1/ <-need moar memory |
| 13:14.53 | Groktar | ok, he sucks |
| 13:14.54 | sb|work | Stanzilla: haha your enhancement shammy sucks! :p |
| 13:14.57 | Groktar | he's not keeping his dots up |
| 13:15.25 | Stanzilla | sb|work: alt :p |
| 13:15.26 | Groktar | he only had 53 vt ticks... |
| 13:15.51 | sb|work | depends on fight duration... :p |
| 13:15.51 | Groktar | oh sweet it does uptime |
| 13:15.53 | sb|work | (and haste) |
| 13:16.01 | Groktar | 53.3% uptime |
| 13:18.36 | Groktar | i think i agree with you |
| 13:18.38 | Groktar | he fucking sucks |
| 13:19.04 | Groktar | every fight i look at his vt uptime is right around 50% |
| 13:19.50 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 13:20.35 | Groktar | whenever i raided on shadowpriest i know i always had as much uptime on dots as possible |
| 13:21.06 | Groktar | his DP uptime is also around 50% |
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| 13:21.25 | pakoz | Mornin' |
| 13:23.07 | sb|work | err hmm.. i really need the "reforging" profession as a disc priest :( |
| 13:23.26 | sb|work | i don't know what to do.. :p |
| 13:25.57 | Myrroddin | sb|work if you try out r59 of SR2, let me know if you find any more issues.... and if you think it is good, then let me know if i should take it out of "developmental" status and into regular alpha |
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| 13:26.14 | Fisker | lol |
| 13:26.18 | sb|work | Myrroddin: okay |
| 13:26.26 | Fisker | in 5 steps this guy went from WTS some epic gem for 215g |
| 13:26.31 | Fisker | he's down to 125g now :D |
| 13:26.44 | Fisker | supply and demand fail |
| 13:28.14 | sb|work | Pneumatus: ping! :p |
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| 13:30.51 | winkiller | I wonder if I did something wrong with only 5k on Saurfang 10man. then again every try I never capped 5k, maybe the buffs? :/ |
| 13:33.02 | sb|work | WoL? |
| 13:33.33 | winkiller | didnt upload, dunno if I even have it still |
| 13:35.29 | sb|work | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/568zptjr7kcv9bn2/sum/damageDone/?s=2749&e=2957 <-- but i failed at targetting last 2 beasts :/ (see dps drop in bloodlust phase *sigh*) |
| 13:43.56 | Xinhuan | hmmmm |
| 13:44.23 | Xinhuan | try going to google, and type in the search box "how do i get to" but don't press enter |
| 13:44.26 | winkiller | I don't like the new Assassination build without rupture :/ |
| 13:44.28 | Xinhuan | just look at the suggestion dropdown |
| 13:44.45 | winkiller | lol |
| 13:44.51 | winkiller | pure gold, yes |
| 13:45.14 | winkiller | http://autocompleteme.com/ |
| 13:45.24 | sb|work | winkiller: well - all rogue pve builds are without rupture!? :p |
| 13:45.40 | winkiller | sb|work: *NEW* |
| 13:45.43 | winkiller | 3.3 = new |
| 13:46.12 | sb|work | ffs, no disc priest around? need some ideas :o |
| 13:48.03 | haste | plays disc. |
| 13:49.48 | sb|work | haste: alt-priest or togc/icecrown 25 raiding? :p |
| 13:50.02 | haste | togc/icc25 |
| 13:50.35 | sb|work | okay, how do you solve the "too much haste" problem? :p |
| 13:51.00 | haste | that's pretty much impossible |
| 13:51.08 | haste | you'll idle at 20% haste if you like it or not |
| 13:51.52 | sb|work | yup, you can't replace it with something else.. |
| 13:52.06 | sb|work | well, spirit, but it sucks :p |
| 13:52.07 | haste | I'm down to 17.5% atm, which is pretty much the lowest I've had in ages ;P |
| 13:52.19 | sb|work | 24.2% here :/ |
| 13:52.25 | haste | using tier items :P ? |
| 13:52.42 | sb|work | i don't want to wear sp+crit+spirit items :p |
| 13:52.57 | haste | well, tier items are shit |
| 13:53.05 | sb|work | i know |
| 13:53.13 | sb|work | thats why i wear sp+crit+haste stuff :p |
| 13:53.14 | haste | currently t10 for spriest is better than the holy set for disc |
| 13:53.17 | sb|work | (shadow tier gear) |
| 13:53.20 | sb|work | i know :p |
| 13:53.46 | winkiller | like elem parts are better than resto ones |
| 13:54.04 | sb|work | but resto set-bonus is nice |
| 13:54.18 | sb|work | while priest set bonus is fail ;) |
| 13:54.36 | winkiller | 5% CH crit isn't great if you mostly do heroics :P |
| 13:54.40 | winkiller | even 10man it's meh |
| 13:55.03 | sb|work | haste: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=khaz%27goroth&n=Smb need to get crafter legs, but that just gets more crit, haste will continue to be that high... :o |
| 13:57.27 | haste | hence why it's impossible |
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| 14:03.22 | Repo | 10charscanner: 03kunda 0430300-2 * r30 : Tagging as 30300-2 |
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| 14:08.01 | asmodai | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/97280-Ditch-the-Orc-Or-Im-Moving-to-Canada |
| 14:12.30 | Groktar | good lord |
| 14:12.41 | Groktar | i was doing the math on what my ap would get up to if everything procced |
| 14:12.47 | Groktar | with full raid buffs |
| 14:12.50 | Groktar | would be like 14k |
| 14:12.56 | Groktar | with capped armor pen |
| 14:12.58 | Groktar | oO |
| 14:13.06 | Groktar | (in the gear i have now) |
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| 14:15.42 | sb|work | yay shadow's edge drama raid today... :p |
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| 14:17.12 | pentium166 | yay same old itemization raid today |
| 14:17.13 | olafski | several people have the quest items? :P |
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| 14:25.36 | Funkeh` | who broke the servers |
| 14:25.44 | Funkeh` | curse/wowace down |
| 14:26.05 | rbarreiros | sb|work, there's no drama with us, we just assign the legendaries to whom we think that deserve the most |
| 14:26.13 | rbarreiros | and it's take it or leave it :) |
| 14:26.31 | koaschten | Funkeh` its down for at least 6 hours already |
| 14:26.45 | Funkeh` | it was working fine for me like an hour ago |
| 14:26.47 | sb|work | rbarreiros: huh? |
| 14:27.37 | rbarreiros | shadow's edge* |
| 14:27.42 | Funkeh` | ckknight, d'you break something? =P |
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| 14:27.51 | ckknight | no, what's up? |
| 14:29.47 | nevcairiel | the question is, whats down? :P |
| 14:29.53 | nevcairiel | like, wowace.com! |
| 14:29.53 | Funkeh` | ckknight, connection timing out to wowace/curse |
| 14:30.05 | ckknight | yea, ITX network is down |
| 14:30.09 | ckknight | apparently |
| 14:30.14 | ckknight | people are informed, though |
| 14:30.18 | Funkeh` | eta? |
| 14:30.31 | steev_ | 2011 |
| 14:30.34 | Wobin | http://notalwaysright.com/they-dont-call-her-dumblesnore-for-nothing/3738 |
| 14:30.59 | ckknight | Funkeh`: can't say |
| 14:32.21 | Myrroddin | is wowace down, or is the prob on my end? |
| 14:32.27 | nevcairiel | your end |
| 14:32.34 | Myrroddin | dammit |
| 14:32.40 | nevcairiel | for not reading the last 10 lines of backlog |
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| 14:34.03 | Myrroddin | d'oh... i blame lack of sleep. yeah. that's it. can i get a lawyer please? i need one good enough to get me out of stupidville |
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| 14:35.23 | Wobin | How many miles per lawyer do you get |
| 14:35.34 | Wobin | and does it involve changes to your engine? |
| 14:36.10 | Myrroddin | 10 lawyers to the gallon |
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| 14:36.36 | Myrroddin | unfortunately, i have 1 gallon tank :( |
| 14:42.08 | Kaelten | Hey guys just a heads up, our datacenter is having issues and as a result most of our sites are unreachable at the moment. |
| 14:43.49 | Fisker | ~wowalert |
| 14:43.50 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 14:45.02 | steev_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:52.46 | ckknight | wowace is back up |
| 14:54.28 | sb|work | haste: do you have an example for those new "role icons" in oUF? |
| 14:56.10 | haste | sb|work: nope, they're just textures tho' |
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| 15:02.38 | yoshimo | and another addon sending you rndm version querys, afktracker this time... |
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| 15:07.15 | digmouse | how can I get rid of the silly beqldebug frame |
| 15:07.35 | nevcairiel | hint: uninstall beql |
| 15:07.43 | digmouse | no I disable it |
| 15:10.17 | pompy | hm i unchecked everything for "self" and "ungrouped" in recount and its still recording a mob kill as a fight |
| 15:12.19 | pompy | ah nm |
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| 15:22.26 | digmouse | save boss fights only |
| 15:22.35 | digmouse | there is an option for that |
| 15:28.59 | profalbert | Is there an easy way to determine which addon causes "X is not in your party"-messages? |
| 15:32.11 | Xtek | Mornin' |
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| 15:38.19 | Ackis | morning Xtek |
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| 15:41.56 | yoshimo | profalbert , i think there was some code in http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17561 |
| 15:43.59 | Xtek | Hey Ackis. |
| 15:48.45 | nicoli_s | ackis is too busy freezing to talk |
| 15:48.53 | Ackis | :O |
| 15:48.57 | Ackis | it's only -20 |
| 15:49.46 | nevcairiel | F or C? |
| 15:50.09 | Ackis | C |
| 15:50.20 | nevcairiel | gotta ask with you overseas folk |
| 15:50.32 | Ackis | americans use F |
| 15:51.38 | krka | americans use all sorts of weird units, they're not to be trusted |
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| 16:07.17 | Tentacled | Anyone have an idea how to detect that the player has right-clicked the ground to move their character, as opposed to pressing arrows or WSAD ..? This crap messes up camera-angle readouts -_- |
| 16:09.56 | Grum | there is a 'IsMouselook' orso function that reports if you are 'mouselooking' :P |
| 16:10.05 | steev_ | hooray |
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| 16:10.15 | steev_ | my raiding toon just got epic flight |
| 16:10.18 | Grum | look at the camera functions on the wowprogramming api reference |
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| 16:12.31 | Tentacled | Grum: mouselook doesn't kick in when rightclicking the ground. |
| 16:12.53 | yoshimo | what are you trying to do tentacled? |
| 16:13.05 | Tentacled | It's that I'm using the save-camera-settings-and-query-cvars trick to determine camera position, which works perfectly UNTIL there's a right-click movement. |
| 16:13.22 | Grum | Tentacled: oh lame |
| 16:13.28 | digmouse | anyone know any good game texture pack? |
| 16:13.40 | Tentacled | For the time that the toon runs to the pulsating target spot, the camera angle suddenly starts returning the direction the character runs to. |
| 16:13.50 | digmouse | kinda placed in Interface to replace default textures |
| 16:13.51 | Tentacled | And gets back to returning the camera angle when they arrive. |
| 16:14.44 | yoshimo | cant you fix the camera when using ctm? there are a few cam options next to "enable ctm" |
| 16:15.01 | Tentacled | So I'd like to compensate that by subtracting the character facing from the camera angle to again get the plain camera angle - but I'd have to know when to start taking that correction. |
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| 16:21.45 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: http://www.bild.de/BILD/news/2010/01/06/mann-reisst-freund-die-hoden-ab/weil-sich-nix-regt.html :P |
| 16:22.39 | nevcairiel | ouch |
| 16:23.25 | nevcairiel | front page material for bild, clearly |
| 16:23.29 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 16:24.22 | Stanzilla | but hey, they found the testicles |
| 16:24.26 | koaschten | i doubt that "sich was regt" now |
| 16:25.53 | Stanzilla | hehe |
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| 16:31.08 | XanthosXR | Hiyas all :) I have a simple question. I'm having a hard time with a regex. Was wondering if anyone could help out. |
| 16:31.50 | nevcairiel | ~asktoask |
| 16:31.51 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 16:32.21 | XanthosXR | sorry I was typing the second portion of that sentence that had the question |
| 16:32.36 | XanthosXR | *goes back to retyping it* |
| 16:32.37 | nevcairiel | and now you stopped and replaced it with something else! |
| 16:32.55 | steev_ | nevcairiel: he's typing it in a word processor |
| 16:33.30 | Tentacled | with his feet... |
| 16:34.53 | XanthosXR | lol it takes awhile for me to mash my nose on the keyboard to type the sentences |
| 16:35.03 | XanthosXR | I'm trying to scan the reagents line of a tooltip to return only the reagents names not the color, nor the count. "[\010, ](.-) %((%d+)%)" seems to work fine for all of them except the first one if it doesn't have a count. local str = 'Reagents: \010Heavy Knothide Leather, |cffff2020Bolt of Soulcloth (16)|r' |
| 16:35.05 | nevcairiel | you type with your nose? |
| 16:35.14 | XanthosXR | no but it would be amusing |
| 16:35.51 | Grum | hmmm \010? |
| 16:36.00 | nevcairiel | also called \n |
| 16:36.08 | XanthosXR | The reagent line breaks with a \n |
| 16:36.35 | Grum | oh right nevermind, stupid wow doesnt do octal :P |
| 16:36.54 | Elkano | also your reagent count isn't optional |
| 16:37.13 | XanthosXR | anyways the initial first return would be "|n Heavy Knothide Leather, Bolt of Soulcloth" instead of it returning Heavy Knothide Leather |
| 16:37.33 | XanthosXR | initially I didn't want it but I placed it just in case in the future I do want the count |
| 16:37.40 | nevcairiel | sadly Lua pattern doesnt allow optional sections, you have to be smarter about it |
| 16:37.50 | Grum | where is this string coming from? |
| 16:38.12 | XanthosXR | ItemrefTooltip after assigning an EnchantLink |
| 16:38.52 | XanthosXR | Basically a recipe link in chat, (which is basically a spellid reference) |
| 16:39.10 | Grum | what recipe is that of? :D or did you just make a test-string :D |
| 16:39.19 | XanthosXR | oh that's just a random test string |
| 16:39.50 | digmouse | pain in the ass to play on servers across the pacific |
| 16:39.53 | Grum | well; you jsut want the name of the item? remove the cruft before and after; split on "," and for each element remove the possible 'count' at the end; done! |
| 16:40.44 | nevcairiel | gmatch would probably be alot cleaner, but getting a pattern that always works and possibly even returns the count .. pita |
| 16:41.23 | XanthosXR | Well I'm currently using gmatch to return the name and count |
| 16:41.30 | XanthosXR | in a for loop |
| 16:42.44 | Grum | i'm just going to be really stupid now, is that really the only way to get this information? |
| 16:42.49 | Grum | is blizzard *that* annoying? :) |
| 16:42.55 | nevcairiel | yes they are |
| 16:43.06 | Grum | O.o |
| 16:43.17 | nevcairiel | they dont give you information about crafting skills like that |
| 16:43.22 | Grum | so what if you have an item with a ',' in it O.o |
| 16:43.36 | nevcairiel | only if you know them and have them in the craft window, you can get more details |
| 16:43.50 | Grum | yeah but that is protected code O.o |
| 16:43.59 | Grum | and you have to have that profession |
| 16:44.02 | Grum | and the recipe >< |
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| 16:44.19 | XanthosXR | bah it's still not working now it breaks before a count |
| 16:44.24 | XanthosXR | lol |
| 16:44.29 | Grum | oh but wait; blizzard does color-code the different ingredients right? |
| 16:44.37 | XanthosXR | yes |
| 16:44.44 | XanthosXR | red you don't have it, white you do |
| 16:45.01 | Grum | how does the original string look before you stripped the colorcodes from it |
| 16:45.11 | Grum | +like |
| 16:45.17 | XanthosXR | the actual reagent line? |
| 16:45.20 | Grum | yeah |
| 16:45.28 | XanthosXR | sure let me toss one up give me a sec |
| 16:45.50 | Grum | hmm it only colors the red ones so it seems? and not the white ones? |
| 16:46.01 | nevcairiel | of course, white is the default color |
| 16:46.26 | Grum | there are items with a ',' in the name right? i think i remember seeing some of those fancy named ones :D |
| 16:46.35 | nevcairiel | i dunno |
| 16:46.40 | nevcairiel | i think only epics |
| 16:46.42 | Grum | 'Rhok'delar, Longbow of the Ancient Keepers' |
| 16:46.59 | XanthosXR | 'Reagents: \nToothpicks, |cffff2020Linen Cloth (16)|r, |cffff2020Dirty Rags (12)|r, |cffff2020Sand Paper(3)|r, |cffff2020Klenex (1)|r' |
| 16:47.03 | XanthosXR | something like that |
| 16:47.16 | XanthosXR | mind you i used bogus reagents :P |
| 16:47.52 | Grum | and if you had Linen Cloth, it would simply say: Linen Cloth (16), right? |
| 16:48.05 | XanthosXR | the \n can also be \010 btw |
| 16:48.10 | XanthosXR | yep |
| 16:48.18 | Grum | its identical though |
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| 16:48.55 | Grum | well assuming there are no reagents with a ',' in the name, split it on ',' and clean it up |
| 16:49.33 | XanthosXR | crap messed up on that reagent line |
| 16:49.36 | XanthosXR | it should be |
| 16:49.46 | XanthosXR | 'Reagents: \n|cffff2020Toothpicks|r, |cffff2020Linen Cloth (16)|r, |cffff2020Dirty Rags (12)|r, |cffff2020Sand Paper(3)|r, |cffff2020Klenex (1)|r' |
| 16:50.13 | Grum | not much changed though except that you colored the first one |
| 16:50.19 | XanthosXR | well I don't really want to assume on the , as I do want it localized for other languages |
| 16:50.37 | Grum | and other languages dont use the , ? :p |
| 16:51.01 | Grum | ТолÑÑÐ°Ñ ÑзловаÑÐ°Ñ ÐºÐ¾Ð¶Ð° (10), Ð Ñлон Ñкани ÐÑÑ (16), ÐзнаÑалÑÐ½Ð°Ñ ÐÐµÐ¼Ð»Ñ (12), ÐзнаÑалÑÐ½Ð°Ñ Ð¢Ñма (12), ÐзнаÑалÑÐ½Ð°Ñ ÐÑÑÑоÑа (2) |
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| 16:51.12 | XanthosXR | I like thinking run-on spanish sentences in my mind :P |
| 16:51.17 | XanthosXR | *chuckles* |
| 16:51.18 | Grum | Cuero de pellejo nudoso grueso (10), Madeja de paño de alma (16), Tierra primigenia (12), Sombra primigenia (12), Abismo primigenio (2) |
| 16:51.22 | Grum | |
| 16:51.26 | Grum | spanish =) |
| 16:51.37 | XanthosXR | -_- copy and paste ftl |
| 16:51.39 | XanthosXR | :D |
| 16:52.00 | XanthosXR | alright alright heh I'll stick to the comma ^-^ |
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| 16:56.23 | Grum | XanthosXR: for k in string:sub((string:find("\n"))+1):gmatch( "([^,]+)[,$]" ) do print(k) end |
| 16:56.49 | harl | is there a limit to the amount of ## SavedVariables: and ## SavedVariablesPerCharater: entries in the .toc files ? |
| 16:56.59 | Grum | that will print you the individual components, but you still have to strip them of leading spaces and their colors and then split them into ingredient+quantity |
| 16:57.19 | Tentacled | Grum: what was that Russian recipe for, some leatherworking thingamabob? |
| 16:57.26 | Grum | nah both were the same |
| 16:57.27 | harl | ..PerCharacter |
| 16:57.29 | Grum | some soulcloth item |
| 16:57.35 | Tentacled | with some elemental pieces and a rough leather something |
| 16:57.48 | Grum | yeah soulcloth chest orso |
| 16:59.14 | XanthosXR | Hmm I'll try that Grum, currently I'm trying to see if I can do a search in the string for repeating color patterns and return the text from center of the color patterns |
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| 17:00.41 | Repo | 09be2ed: add wowhead default entries for the appropriate default profiles |
| 17:00.42 | Repo | 2c49b8f: issue warning if wowhead spec not found in defaults |
| 17:00.43 | Repo | 7bdc1de: if there is a "wowhead" entry then use the wowheadDefaults for that spec |
| 17:00.44 | Grum | XanthosXR: yes but things you have arent colored |
| 17:00.44 | Repo | 098e5de: initial version of WowheadDefaults |
| 17:01.04 | Grum | XanthosXR: how did you do the splitting now? |
| 17:01.34 | XanthosXR | "|cff%x%x%x%x%x%x(.-) %((%d+)%)," something along those lines but trying to see about the optional count |
| 17:01.55 | Grum | so what if an item has no count? |
| 17:02.01 | Grum | the once you need '1' of have no (1) |
| 17:02.02 | XanthosXR | exactly... |
| 17:02.13 | elec29a | hi can someone write me a calendar addon to invite actual grp members ? |
| 17:02.23 | XanthosXR | let me see if your way is better |
| 17:03.15 | XanthosXR | *mutters about the stupidity of his irc client* |
| 17:04.37 | Grum | XanthosXR: |
| 17:04.40 | Grum | for i in string:sub((string:find("\n"))+1):gmatch( "([^,]+)[,$]" ) do c=1; i = i:gsub("^ ",""):gsub("|cffff2020", ""):gsub("|r$", ""); i = i:gsub(" %((%d+)%)", function (x) c = x; return "" end); print(i,c) end |
| 17:04.51 | Grum | that works for: string = "Reagents: \n|cffff2020Toothpicks|r, |cffff2020Linen Cloth (16)|r, |cffff2020Dirty Rags (12)|r, |cffff2020Sand Paper (3)|r, |cffff2020Klenex (1)|r" |
| 17:05.44 | Grum | lua> for i in ("Reagents: \n|cffff2020Toothpicks|r, |cffff2020Linen Cloth (16)|r, |cffff2020Dirty Rags (12)|r, |cffff2020Sand Paper (3)|r, |cffff2020Klenex (1)|r"):sub((string:find("\n"))+1):gmatch( "([^,]+)[,$]" ) do local c=1; i = i:gsub("^ ",""):gsub("|cffff2020", ""):gsub("|r$", ""); i = i:gsub(" %((%d+)%)", function (x) c = x; return "" end); print(i,c) end |
| 17:05.45 | lua_bot | Grum: luabot:1: calling 'find' on bad self (string expected, got table) |
| 17:06.17 | XanthosXR | giving it a whirl let me see |
| 17:06.32 | Grum | oh i failed |
| 17:06.52 | Grum | lua> string = "Reagents: \n|cffff2020Toothpicks|r, |cffff2020Linen Cloth (16)|r, |cffff2020Dirty Rags (12)|r, |cffff2020Sand Paper (3)|r, |cffff2020Klenex (1)|r"; for i in string:sub((string:find("\n"))+1):gmatch( "([^,]+)[,$]" ) do local c=1; i = i:gsub("^ ",""):gsub("|cffff2020", ""):gsub("|r$", ""); i = i:gsub(" %((%d+)%)", function (x) c = x; return "" end); print(i,c) end |
| 17:06.53 | lua_bot | Grum: Toothpicks, 1, Linen Cloth, 16, Dirty Rags, 12, Sand Paper, 3 |
| 17:06.58 | Grum | there u go :) |
| 17:08.05 | Grum | not pretty but effective! thanks to lua >< |
| 17:08.35 | XanthosXR | hmm your right it did work :D |
| 17:08.42 | XanthosXR | thanks Grum |
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| 17:09.10 | Grum | should work for all locales |
| 17:09.24 | Fisker | orionshock btw? |
| 17:09.51 | XanthosXR | nope who's that? |
| 17:12.07 | XanthosXR | You know this would be much easier if Blizzard had function to return the reagents from a Enchant linked tooltip |
| 17:12.23 | XanthosXR | instead all you can do is :GetSpell() the id of the actual spell with the details |
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| 17:14.05 | XanthosXR | for example spell# 62242 which is really [Jewelcrafting: Icy Prism] |
| 17:15.43 | arkanes_ | you can get the reagents from the trade skill API |
| 17:15.46 | Grum | yeah you have to setup the tooltip and then parse it right? :p |
| 17:15.47 | arkanes_ | but I guess thats not what you want? |
| 17:16.00 | XanthosXR | no ark because you can only parse your own tradeskill |
| 17:16.04 | arkanes_ | right |
| 17:16.08 | Grum | arkanes_: you can if you dont have the tradeskill or the tradeskill pane open or the recipe? |
| 17:16.21 | arkanes_ | Grum: no, that is the limitation |
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| 17:16.29 | Grum | yeah and that makes it uttershite :) |
| 17:16.30 | arkanes_ | I was just making sure he didn't want this for his own tradeskills |
| 17:16.35 | XanthosXR | yes Grum I have to actually set the link and then parse the tooltip |
| 17:16.43 | XanthosXR | which is retarded imho |
| 17:16.45 | Grum | XanthosXR: yeah lol welcome to wow i'd say |
| 17:16.49 | arkanes_ | You know you might be better off using a data dump from wowhead or something rather than tooltip parsing |
| 17:16.55 | Grum | ah you'd be surprised XanthosXR ... |
| 17:17.04 | XanthosXR | I could but I'm a lazy arse |
| 17:17.07 | XanthosXR | :D |
| 17:17.18 | Grum | you remember some patches ago they changed the order of the recipies in the JC ui because they were all scrambled etc? |
| 17:17.36 | XanthosXR | lol no but I can see how that would cause issues |
| 17:17.37 | Grum | that was a serverside change .. and you simply couldnt do it clientside by modifying the craft pane O.o |
| 17:17.51 | Grum | the client has 0 access to all that stuff |
| 17:17.54 | Grum | or think of something simple |
| 17:18.03 | Grum | is this item BoE or BoP!? .. that is tooltip parsing as well ;) |
| 17:18.22 | Grum | and then when the added Heroic items .. the 'BoE' line suddenly doesnt have to be on the second line ;D |
| 17:18.28 | Grum | so you end up having to parse the whole bloody thing ;) |
| 17:18.30 | XanthosXR | because of many restrictions the majority of things have to be tooltip parsed |
| 17:20.18 | XanthosXR | as a side note, if a recipe did require a Toothpick I would laugh ;) |
| 17:26.39 | XanthosXR | hmm Grum when I use your code on the line that contains the reagent it returns an invalid arithmatic on nil value... odd but the string I provided you works perfectly fine. |
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| 17:39.40 | Grum | XanthosXR: mmmm what is the string you use it on? could oyu paste it? |
| 17:40.28 | XanthosXR | trying to determine the cause and difference between the line I gave you and the one actually in the client |
| 17:40.34 | XanthosXR | it should be the same, not sure what's going on |
| 17:40.39 | XanthosXR | one moment |
| 17:40.51 | Grum | what do you do; because nothing causes arithmatic on a value in my string afaik |
| 17:41.07 | Grum | or maybe ... |
| 17:41.26 | Grum | nah i dont do math in that line :) |
| 17:41.31 | Grum | or sorry i do! |
| 17:41.46 | Grum | (string:find("\n"))+1 |
| 17:41.59 | Grum | you dont pass in the whole line with the \n included |
| 17:43.24 | Grum | XanthosXR: change the first part to: string:sub((string:find("\n"))or 0 +1): |
| 17:43.54 | Grum | lua> string = "Reagents: \n|cffff2020Toothpicks|r, |cffff2020Linen Cloth (16)|r, |cffff2020Dirty Rags (12)|r, |cffff2020Sand Paper (3)|r, |cffff2020Klenex (1)|r"; |
| 17:43.55 | lua_bot | Grum: No output |
| 17:43.58 | Grum | meh! stupid newline |
| 17:44.08 | Grum | lua> string = "Reagents: \n|cffff2020Toothpicks|r, |cffff2020Linen Cloth (16)|r, |cffff2020Dirty Rags (12)|r, |cffff2020Sand Paper (3)|r, |cffff2020Klenex (1)|r"; for i in string:sub((string:find("\n"))or 0 +1):gmatch( "([^,]+)[,$]" ) do local c=1; i = i:gsub("^ ",""):gsub("|cffff2020", ""):gsub("|r$", ""); i = i:gsub(" %((%d+)%)", function (x) c = x; return "" end); print(i,c) end |
| 17:44.08 | lua_bot | Grum: Toothpicks, 1, Linen Cloth, 16, Dirty Rags, 12, Sand Paper, 3 |
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| 17:45.54 | yoshimo | Wobin ,you around? |
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| 17:46.50 | XanthosXR | http://www.pastey.net/131098 |
| 17:47.00 | XanthosXR | that's what I'm using and it's still returning incorrect values |
| 17:47.04 | XanthosXR | the first line returns this |
| 17:47.47 | Wobin | yoshimo, only shortly |
| 17:47.58 | XanthosXR | Reagents: |nFrozen Orb 1 |
| 17:48.44 | XanthosXR | Reagents: |nFrozen Orb 1, Chalcedony 3, Shadow Crystal 3, |
| 17:48.57 | XanthosXR | but it's missing the final component Dark Jade 3 |
| 17:50.24 | arkanes_ | are you sure the precedence on "(text:find("\n"))or 0 +1" is what you want? |
| 17:50.53 | Wobin | yoshimo, I'm heading to bed now |
| 17:51.07 | XanthosXR | Well on the tooltip the Reagent: portion goes into the next line a \010 or \n is present |
| 17:51.16 | arkanes_ | also are you sure that hardcoding that tooltip color is right? |
| 17:51.22 | arkanes_ | maybe you have some dark jades |
| 17:51.52 | XanthosXR | nope it's in red and if I did the return would be in white |
| 17:52.05 | XanthosXR | which would throw off the gsub("|cffff2020" |
| 17:54.00 | arkanes_ | needs to be a step through debugger for addons :( |
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| 17:54.32 | XanthosXR | tell me about it lol |
| 17:55.11 | XanthosXR | although I believe if you use AddOn Studio for World of Warcraft it can do it, not entirely sure since I don't use it myself |
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| 17:55.24 | XanthosXR | Notepad++ ftw! |
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| 17:55.58 | arkanes_ | well, thats in an emulated wow-like environment, as I understand it |
| 17:56.30 | arkanes_ | which would probably be fine for this problem actually |
| 17:59.26 | XanthosXR | Okay according to what I was able to store this is the actual line |
| 17:59.27 | XanthosXR | "Reagents: |n|cffff2020Frozen Orb|r, |cffff2020Chalcedony (3)|r, |cffff2020Shadow Crystal (3)|r, |cffff2020Dark Jade (3)|r" |
| 17:59.42 | XanthosXR | I think... |
| 17:59.56 | XanthosXR | *goes to double check* |
| 18:01.02 | XanthosXR | yep that's the exact line ripped and stored in a savedvariable |
| 18:01.36 | XanthosXR | I'm using Icy Prism for the example btw :) |
| 18:07.07 | XanthosXR | a problem will arise once it turns white yes |
| 18:09.14 | CrazyBenny | XanthosXR: regexp ;) |
| 18:10.02 | XanthosXR | heyas there crazy a few peeps helping me out with the regexp, it's being a pain :X |
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| 18:11.00 | arkanes_ | honestly this isn't a problem I'd use a regexp for |
| 18:11.07 | arkanes_ | at least in a language that wasn't lua |
| 18:11.33 | arkanes_ | at least not as you're doing it, but maybe I don't get how gmatch works |
| 18:12.17 | arkanes_ | split the string on commas, split each piece on spaces, match the last element of that split on \(%d\) |
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| 18:16.41 | yoshimo | is it possible to automatically destroy all mail which includes bg emblems? my mailbox has too many of them |
| 18:17.45 | Axodious | [G] [guildmate]: anyone know if their is a mod like AckisRecipeList only for mounts or pets? |
| 18:19.05 | pompy | Axodious: collectinator |
| 18:19.15 | Axodious | ty |
| 18:19.19 | pompy | http://www.wowace.com/addons/collectinator/ |
| 18:20.25 | Axodious | also is there an addon/is it possible to clear the combatlog? |
| 18:20.38 | Axodious | i always forget to and it gets to like over a gig |
| 18:20.39 | Axodious | ~_~ |
| 18:21.00 | Axodious | in game i'm talking about of course |
| 18:21.14 | Antiarc | No |
| 18:21.21 | Axodious | bleh |
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| 18:29.04 | XanthosXR | Well thanks for the help folks! I'm sure I'll figure it out eventually. I need to be heading out :) |
| 18:29.22 | steev_ | Axodious: if you upload to world of logs - the client offers to tar/zip the file and such |
| 18:30.06 | Axodious | i thought that was some like split multirar thing |
| 18:34.36 | Pneumatus | i just run a shellscript after every raid :< |
| 18:34.54 | Pneumatus | split, date, zip, scp, run apostasis :) |
| 18:37.58 | Axodious | unless you're talking about powershell i can't really do that :P |
| 18:38.08 | Axodious | without extra time uploading etc etc |
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| 19:44.48 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r178 SMD_Timers.lua: -adjust where server names are stripped |
| 19:44.50 | Repo | -fix table index errors in the Refresh function |
| 19:44.51 | Repo | -ensure that the redirect bar is refreshed as well when using Readiness |
| 19:46.05 | Repo | 10simple-md: 03Starinnia 043.1.2 * r179 : Tagging as 3.1.2 |
| 20:00.25 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that improves the buddy list and shares it between characters on the same realm & faction? |
| 20:00.50 | nevcairiel | for sharing i use FriendsWithBenefits |
| 20:00.54 | KriLL3 | feels stupid having to enter all my buddies on new characters manually |
| 20:01.04 | KriLL3 | thx |
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| 20:33.13 | steev_ | KriLL3: just do what i do - ignore them when im on new characters |
| 20:33.30 | KriLL3 | ? |
| 20:33.31 | steev_ | if they were important enough, you'd remember their name :-P |
| 20:33.49 | KriLL3 | well my brother has like 5 guys with similar names, can't remember em all |
| 20:37.35 | Repo | 10collectinator: 03pompachomp 07master * Beta4-7-g7217b63 Collectinator.lua: [+1 commit] Added a couple missing pet spellid's and warcraftpet id's |
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| 20:40.36 | PREFIX|| | Is there any addon to profile netusage or so in wow? We are having terrible lag everytime we pop BL it goes to hell. |
| 20:41.31 | Primer | no |
| 20:41.45 | Antiarc | addon_spam_fu works fine |
| 20:41.59 | KriLL3 | PREFIX||: could check the resource monitor in windows |
| 20:43.25 | PREFIX|| | Thanks anti ill check that out |
| 20:44.36 | Repo | 10grid2: 03jerry * r301 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 20:44.38 | Repo | Couple of fixes. Fixes Ticket 64 and "unstuck" the duration option flag for text indicators. |
| 20:45.25 | Xtek | . |
| 20:47.52 | ckknight | someone make our office less cold |
| 20:50.29 | asmodai | sets fire to ckknight's office |
| 20:51.48 | KriLL3 | is there an addon like grid, but more functional and less artsy? partial name, and all indicators I want (class, role etc) being modules etc is annoying |
| 20:52.09 | nevcairiel | artsy? is that even a word? |
| 20:52.14 | KriLL3 | yes |
| 20:52.35 | KriLL3 | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/artsy |
| 20:53.30 | KriLL3 | fairly old slang, though it might not be used where you are, heard it used in the UK a lot though |
| 20:53.47 | KriLL3 | it's a degenerate form of "artistic" |
| 20:54.51 | steev_ | haste: stupid question but... is oUF lily not movable? |
| 20:56.36 | Bruners | steev_: its not movable without the oUF_Movable plugin |
| 20:57.30 | Bruners | steev_: with the plugin any layout is movable |
| 20:58.01 | Xtek | it's soooooo cold :( |
| 20:58.10 | Xtek | our office is teh fail |
| 20:58.12 | KriLL3 | what's oUF? |
| 20:58.20 | Bruners | Xtek: how cold is cold? |
| 20:58.32 | Xtek | it's like 64 in here. |
| 20:58.40 | KriLL3 | Xtek: how cold exactly? think there are regulations on how cold buildings are allowed to be |
| 20:58.41 | haste | steev_: just fetch oUF_MovableFrames |
| 20:58.49 | KriLL3 | Xtek: what's that in real measurements? |
| 20:59.05 | Xtek | 17.7 |
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| 20:59.10 | KriLL3 | hmm |
| 20:59.15 | Stanzilla | wth that's warm :p |
| 20:59.20 | Xtek | no |
| 20:59.30 | KriLL3 | here it's illegal to conduct business etc at less than 16 |
| 20:59.31 | Axodious | that's warm |
| 20:59.34 | Xtek | 70+ is warm |
| 20:59.39 | Axodious | 70+ is hot |
| 20:59.46 | Xtek | ok |
| 20:59.58 | Xtek | Doesn't make it any easier to type. |
| 21:00.02 | haste | KriLL3: and oUF is unit frame madness |
| 21:00.15 | Bruners | currently we have -18C outside |
| 21:00.22 | KriLL3 | my school back when I was a wee lad managed to build the external thermometer into the building when they extended it... no school that day =P |
| 21:00.33 | KriLL3 | haste: what does it stand for? |
| 21:00.40 | Axodious | -5c with a -12c windchill |
| 21:00.47 | Axodious | its been a mild winter in QC |
| 21:00.48 | Bruners | otravi unit frames ? |
| 21:01.01 | KriLL3 | not in CC |
| 21:01.15 | haste | KriLL3: what Bruners says, but let's not mention that |
| 21:01.33 | KriLL3 | heh, I'm happily using pitbull |
| 21:01.35 | haste | ofc it isn't in CC |
| 21:01.36 | KriLL3 | 4 I might add |
| 21:01.44 | KriLL3 | my brother uses x-perl... |
| 21:01.45 | haste | I'm not ever going to put shit on aceforge |
| 21:01.46 | KriLL3 | QQ |
| 21:01.58 | KriLL3 | why is x-perl in CC btw? =P |
| 21:02.04 | Bruners | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.09 | haste | because the author uses aceforge |
| 21:02.23 | KriLL3 | haste: can't you ban/delete? =P |
| 21:02.32 | haste | what? |
| 21:02.41 | haste | the hell is taht related to anything? :p |
| 21:02.45 | KriLL3 | x-perl/it's author |
| 21:03.14 | haste | I'm not the x-perl author |
| 21:03.22 | KriLL3 | not saying you are |
| 21:03.25 | haste | I'm the oUF author, and I'm talking about oUF |
| 21:03.32 | KriLL3 | ah |
| 21:03.33 | KriLL3 | sorry |
| 21:04.24 | Bruners | some kilometers south from here they had -41C last night ^^ |
| 21:04.33 | KriLL3 | ouch |
| 21:05.04 | sb|work | hm - rotface explosion after 5 or 10 stacks in 25man raid? |
| 21:05.05 | KriLL3 | the weather man said the north of Sweden would get -37 over the coming days, luckily no one but weirdos and aborigines live up there |
| 21:05.10 | KriLL3 | -10~ here |
| 21:05.16 | Axodious | sb|work suppose to be 5 |
| 21:05.22 | sb|work | okay |
| 21:05.27 | Axodious | rotface = right side? |
| 21:05.29 | Axodious | or the gas one |
| 21:05.45 | haste | sb|work: you can merge 2xblobs at 4 stacks and get 8 |
| 21:05.53 | Axodious | yeah |
| 21:05.55 | KriLL3 | a real hoot to walk 5Km to the nearest bus stop on sidewalks with 3-4cm hard packed uneven snow/ice... |
| 21:05.56 | Axodious | it's kidna buggy |
| 21:06.07 | Axodious | some of them arent merging some are goign to like 6+ stacks |
| 21:06.17 | sb|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.19 | sb|work | i see |
| 21:06.26 | Axodious | sometimes mergin 2x4 it will make 1x3 |
| 21:06.27 | sb|work | festergut kill with lags is hard... :o |
| 21:06.30 | Stanzilla | they said they fixed that |
| 21:06.32 | Stanzilla | (merging) |
| 21:06.34 | KriLL3 | you're fucking tired at the other end with ankles that hurt like **** from walking 2x more steps than usual and trying not to tumble each damn step |
| 21:06.47 | Axodious | i hope they fix putricide adds |
| 21:06.53 | Axodious | was so damn annoying last night |
| 21:07.04 | KriLL3 | seems the new ICC bosses are royally bugged, weren't they tested on the PTRs? |
| 21:07.06 | Axodious | the slimes kept pausing/lagging when they spawn |
| 21:07.14 | Axodious | so the melee couldnt go in |
| 21:07.15 | Axodious | ~_~ |
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| 21:07.29 | KriLL3 | Axodious: easy fix, replace all melee dps with ranged =P |
| 21:07.45 | Axodious | that's what we're doing tonight! last night was an alt 25 raid with mainly melee |
| 21:07.53 | Axodious | tonight is mains with mainly ranged |
| 21:08.06 | Axodious | should probably have it |
| 21:08.23 | KriLL3 | bet the melee only guys are real happy about that |
| 21:08.27 | Kuosi | got putridice to 5% with alts, aint exactly super hard now |
| 21:08.38 | Kuosi | with some vids out even |
| 21:09.15 | KriLL3 | Kuosi: isn't it the same as all new bosses, once you know the tactic and got a feel for it the encounter itself is fairly easy? |
| 21:09.25 | Aeyan | KriLL3: Putricide was up for 1 day on the PTR, if I remember right |
| 21:09.26 | Kuosi | not really |
| 21:09.28 | KriLL3 | or is there a DPS requirement? |
| 21:09.30 | Kuosi | it is definetly harder |
| 21:09.37 | Aeyan | and it was bugged to unplayable =P |
| 21:09.37 | Kuosi | more stuff to keep track off |
| 21:09.43 | Kuosi | Aeyan: how? |
| 21:09.44 | Axodious | sindragosa should be fun to learn |
| 21:09.45 | KriLL3 | Aeyan: ah, nice |
| 21:09.54 | Aeyan | Dunno, I wasn't testing it |
| 21:10.10 | Aeyan | Just what I've gathered when I tried to do some research before tackling him |
| 21:10.27 | KriLL3 | Kuosi: is there a lot that each role has to deal with? |
| 21:10.29 | Kuosi | are you refering to ppl who claim its bugged because they could only get one abomination up? |
| 21:10.44 | Aeyan | No, that's the way it's supposed to be |
| 21:10.59 | Axodious | you're refering to the ptr right? |
| 21:11.09 | Aeyan | I was |
| 21:11.10 | KriLL3 | most boss encounters are fairly easy if you distill it down to per role stuff |
| 21:11.27 | Axodious | the ptr wasn't suppose to have putricide up, i think it was a bug that he was for a couple of guilds |
| 21:11.34 | Axodious | and even though he was from what i heard he wasnt targettable |
| 21:11.40 | KriLL3 | sadly most sites that mention tactics don't let you focus on one role, instead they just pile it up in your face, I don't care what DPS has to deal with, I'm a tank |
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| 21:13.20 | Axodious | i hope to god he doesnt throw malleable goo on fesetergut |
| 21:13.24 | Axodious | on hard mode |
| 21:15.47 | Repo | 10mapster: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.3.4-1-g90debbc Scaling.lua: [+1 commit] Properly parent the scaling handle so it hides itself when the map is hidden. |
| 21:21.47 | Fisker | LOL |
| 21:24.20 | KriLL3 | is there an addon that kills the quest bottom and sidebars in the map but keeps the pin yet? :> |
| 21:31.55 | ckknight | I have code locally that does that |
| 21:32.06 | ckknight | not ready to commit anywhere, though |
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| 21:36.38 | KriLL3 | :< |
| 21:36.49 | KriLL3 | ckknight: still needs testing? |
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| 21:43.45 | arkanes | I have an idea for a specialized grid or healbot style frame for managing tricks of the trade, anyone know of something taht does this already? |
| 21:45.49 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v0.13-beta-7-gedfd86b / (6 files in 3 directories): [+9 commits] (5 truncated) |
| 21:45.51 | Repo | edfd86b: Added Libram of Obstruction (tank) |
| 21:45.52 | Repo | 67de420: Added another 500 tests |
| 21:45.54 | Repo | 2a9a0dd: Updated toc and .pkgmeta |
| 21:45.55 | Repo | 1462962: Added Executioner as a DPS enchant |
| 21:49.42 | sb|work | err Shadowed |
| 21:49.52 | sb|work | mjolnir runestone recognized as tank item :p |
| 21:50.36 | Shadowed | Update before you complain that it flagged something wrong. |
| 21:50.56 | sb|work | later... :p |
| 21:51.07 | sb|work | not complaining |
| 21:51.10 | sb|work | just telling you! |
| 21:51.13 | Shadowed | complain/tell me/whatever |
| 21:51.39 | KriLL3 | is EvE loosing members or something? they've been bugging me a lot lately "Free Reactivation Still Available!" |
| 21:52.44 | KriLL3 | cool concept that game, but it's more of a visualized spreadsheet that a space shooter, and pvp is horrible, you get instaganked by a pack of guys that have had accounts since day 1 and loose all your stuff |
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| 21:59.53 | Primer | lose |
| 21:59.56 | Primer | on both counts |
| 22:00.32 | Primer | "loose" == "that rope around his neck is too loose, please tighen it" |
| 22:02.07 | Kalroth_ | your such a looser primer!1 |
| 22:02.08 | KriLL3 | sorry it's the opposite in my language, 2 letters is a quick sound, 1 a long, and no that doesn't make any kind of sense, but that's how it is |
| 22:02.14 | Primer | "you're" |
| 22:02.23 | Kalroth_ | orly |
| 22:02.50 | Primer | "oh, really" |
| 22:02.58 | Primer | hehe |
| 22:03.01 | Primer | ok, I'll stop |
| 22:03.12 | Primer | KriLL3: what language is that? |
| 22:03.21 | Kalroth_ | Capitalization is a part of grammar too! |
| 22:03.53 | KriLL3 | Primer: Swe |
| 22:04.03 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 07master * 1.2.1-6-gc8aae47 Considerater.toc: [+1 commit] bumping version |
| 22:04.34 | Kalroth_ | No wonder all the swedes I know are a little numb upstairs |
| 22:04.43 | Nechckn | The language of love! |
| 22:04.49 | arkanes | amazing women |
| 22:04.52 | Primer | KriLL3: Swedish is very odd. |
| 22:04.54 | arkanes | men are dumb as bricks :P |
| 22:04.56 | Nechckn | Come on, that was the perfect set up and you missed! |
| 22:05.19 | Primer | I especially dislike the way Swedish concatenates two or more words to make whole new words. |
| 22:05.23 | arkanes | when I was in high school we had a whole pack of swedes that were staying at a nearby house |
| 22:05.44 | Kalroth_ | arkanes: Their women are thankfully dumb too! |
| 22:05.52 | arkanes | like 3 guys and 2 women or something, they were helping to build another house or something |
| 22:05.53 | Primer | ya |
| 22:06.06 | asmodai | Primer: Hottentottententententoonstellingsterreinwagenchauffeursrijbewijs |
| 22:06.07 | arkanes | dumb as bricks but incredibly nice, cheerful, good workers |
| 22:06.17 | arkanes | Primer: thats a germanic thing in general |
| 22:06.20 | asmodai | Dutch and German do that too :P |
| 22:06.29 | asmodai | <3 Germanic languages |
| 22:06.56 | Kalroth_ | arkanes: you mean incredible racks, blonde mood and good in bed, yes?! |
| 22:07.03 | arkanes | anyway yeah, the guys worked their way through all the local women, and the women worked their way through all the local men |
| 22:07.09 | arkanes | and then they left! |
| 22:07.15 | Primer | Mission accomplished! |
| 22:07.25 | arkanes | I'm not sure where I was going with this story but it was pretty fabulous |
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| 22:08.03 | KriLL3 | Primer: it's not that odd, it's a fairly standard germanic language |
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| 22:08.34 | arkanes | Shadowed: how does eg figure out how many clears someone has done of a boss? I thought you could only see your own stats |
| 22:09.04 | KriLL3 | and btw "The Swedish Chef" muppet's interpretation of Swedish isn't in any way accurate, main reason why I don't like it, sure it might be "funny" but it would be more funny if it was actually anything like Swedish, which it isn't at all |
| 22:09.10 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6963 Citadel/Putricide.lua: |
| 22:09.12 | Repo | * Fix green and red ooze warnings and add a timer bar for the red ooze chase |
| 22:09.13 | Repo | * Add phase change warnings |
| 22:09.18 | arkanes | he's not swedish, theres your mistake |
| 22:09.24 | arkanes | he's SVVEEEEEDISH |
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| 22:11.33 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6964 Citadel/Putricide.lua: |
| 22:11.42 | Repo | Use the primary icon for both oozes, they don't happen at the same time (if they do it's probably a wipe anyway, at least). |
| 22:11.43 | KriLL3 | well he's based on an actual Swedish chef, but something got lost in translation =P |
| 22:11.45 | Repo | 10considerater: 03catamorfizm 041.3.0 * 2627f4b /: [new tag] tagging 1.3.0. remember to run '/consider resetall' and visit your bank, if you wish to use the new default profiles. |
| 22:13.20 | KriLL3 | a chef from Sweden was invited to a cooking show and he submitted a list of preparations (ingredients easy to hand, pre-cooked stuff to show etc) and when he arrived on the live set it was barren, thus he swung into action doing all of the prep work himself on live TV, all the while mumbling curses at the crew |
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| 22:13.55 | arkanes | they had cooking shows back then? |
| 22:13.56 | Shadowed | arkanes: weighting mostly |
| 22:14.04 | Shadowed | and you can see achievements on inspect |
| 22:14.40 | arkanes | maybe I misinterpreted the addon page |
| 22:15.01 | arkanes | achieves don't count how many times someones killed something, only the stat page does that, right? |
| 22:15.54 | Shadowed | achievements in the generic sense, you can see achievements and stats on inspect |
| 22:15.56 | KriLL3 | arkanes: errm, yes they've existed since the dawn of TV, though there wasn't flashy camera angles and a brittish bloke with a tongue too large to understand a word he's saying |
| 22:16.09 | arkanes | huh |
| 22:16.13 | arkanes | I did not know that |
| 22:16.28 | arkanes | either of those things, actually |
| 22:16.44 | Shadowed | It's not very obvious if you don't use the dropdown menus |
| 22:17.28 | Shadowed | as far as I know you can only access it through that |
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| 22:18.51 | KriLL3 | and ofc back in the day all the presenters on cooking shows were women, since women cooked back then... |
| 22:19.14 | arkanes | right |
| 22:19.19 | arkanes | it makes sense now that I think about it |
| 22:19.30 | arkanes | TV was very interested in target women at him in the 50s and 60s |
| 22:19.38 | arkanes | ... man |
| 22:19.41 | arkanes | "targeting", "home" |
| 22:22.03 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6965 Citadel/Putricide.lua: Add phase 3 plague stack warnings. |
| 22:23.26 | steev_ | dunno why |
| 22:23.36 | steev_ | they shoulda been cooking and cleaning not watching tv. |
| 22:25.10 | KriLL3 | steev_: perhaps the man would watch the cooking show and ask his wive to prepare those meals? |
| 22:26.06 | steev_ | KriLL3: he should have been outside playing catch with his son |
| 22:27.47 | KriLL3 | heh |
| 22:34.41 | steev_ | haste: does it not work in Gnome/Linux? |
| 22:36.03 | haste | steev_: what now? |
| 22:37.54 | steev_ | haste: i know i'm annoying - i can't seem to move the ouf frames at all |
| 22:38.03 | haste | steev_: oUF_MovableFrames |
| 22:38.06 | steev_ | yes |
| 22:38.11 | haste | steev_: /omf ! |
| 22:38.12 | steev_ | its there, and enabled |
| 22:38.20 | steev_ | oh silly me |
| 22:38.27 | haste | >:3 |
| 22:38.30 | Bruners | :D |
| 22:38.34 | steev_ | i was looking for slash |
| 22:38.44 | steev_ | not Slash |
| 22:38.49 | haste | - Type /omf to toggle anchors. :D |
| 22:38.55 | steev_ | yep - got it |
| 22:38.55 | haste | - Type /omf <whatever isn't space> to open the UI. :3 |
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| 22:39.33 | Bruners | sometimes, reading helps :P |
| 22:40.16 | Repo | 10raidbuffstatus: 03danielbarron * r337 / (5 files in 1 directory): (Message trimmed by 4 lines) |
| 22:40.18 | Repo | RaidBuffStatus: |
| 22:40.19 | Repo | Fixed some individual buffs accidentally reporting to officer channel. |
| 22:40.20 | Repo | - Fixed Shadow Protection not appearing when clicking Raid Leader in the Buff Wizzard. |
| 22:40.21 | Repo | - Split the warnings for when one's own taunts fail in to two separate set of options; one for resists and one for immune. They even have their own sounds. |
| 22:40.33 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 22:42.30 | steev_ | Bruners: reading is overrated |
| 22:43.41 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6966 Citadel/Putricide.lua: Citadel/Putricide: |
| 22:43.42 | Repo | - Add phase trigger and Gas Bomb, Goo warning + timer |
| 22:43.43 | Repo | - Add Experiment timer |
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| 22:47.17 | yoshimo | Message: ..\AddOns\FuBar2Broker\FuBar2Broker.lua line 332: Dewdrop-2.0: [Speicherbereinigung erzwingen] 'handler' method "OnClick" not defined |
| 22:47.33 | yoshimo | im trying to click on the performancefu part |
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| 22:53.13 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6967 Citadel/Putricide.lua: Clean up destiny7's commit. |
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| 22:56.31 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6968 Citadel/Putricide.lua: Add option headers. |
| 22:56.48 | Hjalte | Can someone tell me how DBM can do an 11 yard range check for Saurfang while BW defaults to 9 yards? (correct range is 12 yards on that fight) |
| 22:58.07 | Primer | Hjalte: their amps don't go to 11 |
| 22:58.11 | Repo | 10big-wigs: 03Rabbit * r6969 Citadel/Putricide.lua: Fix bouncing goo ball bars. |
| 22:58.19 | vhaarr | Hjalte: we probably round down and they round up |
| 22:58.37 | vhaarr | Hjalte: also it depends on the class and spec what kind of ranges you are able to measure |
| 22:58.40 | Primer | vhaarr: except the supposed range is 12? |
| 22:58.41 | Axodious | 2000$ and i'll build you one for 12 |
| 22:58.45 | Funkeh` | most likely because they use the same API and think it's 12 |
| 22:58.48 | Funkeh` | when actually its 9 |
| 22:58.57 | vhaarr | Primer: what? |
| 22:59.13 | Primer | vhaarr: or I'm wrong... |
| 22:59.25 | vhaarr | Primer: I don't understand what you said, hence the "what?" |
| 22:59.32 | Hjalte | vhaarr: I've been able to have 11 yards range check on my druid. Same character as I tried DBM on :) |
| 22:59.43 | Primer | vhaarr: supposedly one must stand 12 yards from other people in that encounter |
| 22:59.50 | Funkeh` | enable both proximity meters |
| 22:59.54 | Funkeh` | i bet both are the exact same |
| 23:00.02 | vhaarr | Primer: right, but some classes and specs can only measure such and such distances |
| 23:00.11 | vhaarr | Primer: so we round down to the closest one |
| 23:00.18 | vhaarr | 12 becomes 9 for certain classes |
| 23:00.20 | vhaarr | 10 for others |
| 23:00.26 | Funkeh` | 9 yards isn't class specific iirc |
| 23:00.27 | vhaarr | etc |
| 23:00.29 | Funkeh` | and the next is 15 |
| 23:00.33 | Funkeh` | which is bandages |
| 23:01.01 | Funkeh` | Basically what Im saying is my guess is you are under the false assumption that its 11 yards |
| 23:01.09 | Funkeh` | simply because thats what it reads |
| 23:01.22 | vhaarr | Primer: here's the range function I wrote for bw; http://paste.wowace.com/1603/ |
| 23:01.32 | Funkeh` | last i checled the blizz range api wasn't 11 |
| 23:01.41 | Primer | So in other words, GetPlayerMapPosition() and size of the zone is not used |
| 23:01.54 | vhaarr | correct |
| 23:01.56 | Primer | which, afaik, would make it work for everyone |
| 23:02.00 | vhaarr | we use CheckInteractDistance |
| 23:02.01 | vhaarr | that's right |
| 23:02.05 | vhaarr | it would also be a lot more expensive |
| 23:02.12 | Primer | sure |
| 23:02.13 | Repo | 10cowtip_luatext: 03profalbert 04v0.4.1-beta * 26a01b1 /: [new tag] tag as v0.4.1-beta |
| 23:02.19 | Funkeh` | dbm uses the map? |
| 23:02.27 | vhaarr | if it did, why does it set it to 11 yards |
| 23:02.32 | vhaarr | it should use 12, like the spell is |
| 23:02.32 | Funkeh` | idd |
| 23:02.51 | yoshimo | im still looking for their code |
| 23:02.53 | vhaarr | it probably misinterprets checkinteractdistance API values and _thinks_ that it's measuring 11 yards |
| 23:02.55 | Funkeh` | im probably right, they use the same interactdistance api |
| 23:02.58 | Funkeh` | and think its 11 |
| 23:02.59 | vhaarr | ye |
| 23:03.26 | vhaarr | so if that is the case, the difference here is that we tell you we are actually measuring 9 yards |
| 23:03.30 | Primer | Is that distance interaction part of Ace or blizz, or...? |
| 23:03.32 | vhaarr | while they lie |
| 23:03.35 | vhaarr | blizz |
| 23:04.12 | Pneumatus | hah, dbm skanks. |
| 23:04.35 | WobWork | Although, I'd prefer they misinterpret 12 yards as 11 |
| 23:04.47 | vhaarr | you don't get it wob |
| 23:04.54 | vhaarr | they're actually measuring 9 as well |
| 23:04.58 | vhaarr | they just think it's 11 |
| 23:05.04 | WobWork | oh, that's not as good =( |
| 23:05.13 | Funkeh` | is there any way to test |
| 23:05.15 | Funkeh` | the blizz api |
| 23:05.22 | vhaarr | yes, the map way |
| 23:05.44 | Funkeh` | not sure my lazyness could stretch that |
| 23:05.47 | vhaarr | of course it would have to be tested per-race and per-gender, since they are different |
| 23:05.51 | vhaarr | mine can\t |
| 23:05.52 | WobWork | is sure there's a penis joke -somewhere- about the difference in two 'units of measurement' |
| 23:06.39 | yoshimo | there is even a small part in their rangecheck.lua that deals with coordinates, but its commented out |
| 23:06.42 | vhaarr | WobWork: I even fed you "per-gender" now you must be able to find something dirty! |
| 23:07.00 | vhaarr | yeah like I said, we could do that |
| 23:07.05 | vhaarr | but I assume it's way too expensive |
| 23:07.22 | Primer | TomTomPing calculates distance between you and other players using GetPlayerMapPostition() and zone scale |
| 23:07.42 | Primer | same as that other addon I wrote, which I discontinued |
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| 23:08.02 | Primer | despite the fact that the TomTomPing guy didn't implement its features, as he said he would |
| 23:08.07 | WobWork | hum |
| 23:08.21 | WobWork | what do tauren have that can measure 6 yards of distance? |
| 23:08.36 | WobWork | (and by god, there -has- to be a penis joke -there-, but it's too damn early for me =P) |
| 23:08.37 | steev_ | a tail |
| 23:09.10 | pompy | if self.Options.RangeFrame thenDBM.RangeCheck:Show(11) end |
| 23:10.02 | vhaarr | if someone pastebins their range module for me |
| 23:10.07 | vhaarr | it would take me 3 seconds to see what they did |
| 23:10.10 | vhaarr | maybe 2 seconds |
| 23:10.17 | WobWork | sets the stopwatch |
| 23:10.35 | Hjalte | vhaarr: http://paste.wowace.com/1604/ |
| 23:11.13 | vhaarr | CheckInteractDistance all the way |
| 23:11.37 | vhaarr | Hjalte: so there we have it, they _think_ they are measuring 11 yards |
| 23:11.39 | Pneumatus | return CheckInteractDistance(uId, 2) |
| 23:11.40 | vhaarr | but actually, it's 9 |
| 23:11.41 | vhaarr | just like us |
| 23:11.45 | Pneumatus | thats what they think is 11 |
| 23:11.50 | vhaarr | ye it's not |
| 23:11.55 | arkanes | theres no firm measure of what a yard is anyway |
| 23:12.11 | Hjalte | vhaarr: I just tested with a shaman friend and his DBM. He was able to test 11 and 10 yards. Is that because he is a shaman then? |
| 23:12.12 | arkanes | positions are inaccurate, some things are measured client side and some are server and some are both |
| 23:12.22 | Pneumatus | arkanes: it's 3 feet :) |
| 23:12.34 | vhaarr | Hjalte: no, because that's what blizzards CheckInteractDistance SUPPOSEDLY measures |
| 23:12.41 | vhaarr | Hjalte: but the thing is, that's not true |
| 23:12.42 | arkanes | Pneumatus: I spent a bunch of time testing this when they announced the chain heal buff |
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| 23:13.23 | Hjalte | vhaarr: I approached him slowly, he had 11 yards check on, when he saw me, he changed to 10 and i was gone. Then I approached him slowly again untill he could see me in 10 yards. How is that not genuine? |
| 23:13.31 | arkanes | chain heal was supposed to be 10 yards, but I could consistently judge someone who was outside of the heal bounce |
| 23:13.45 | vhaarr | Hjalte: it might be genuine for shamans, re: the code I pasted |
| 23:13.53 | vhaarr | Hjalte: and depends on his race as well |
| 23:13.55 | arkanes | I think that might have had something to do with edge of hitbox vs center of hitbox measurements |
| 23:14.06 | arkanes | melee range was the only 100% consistent thing |
| 23:14.22 | vhaarr | Hjalte: it's irrelevant anyway, they do the same thing that BigWigs does, we just tell you the _actual_ distance that is measured |
| 23:14.39 | vhaarr | Hjalte: instead of what people THINK CheckInteractionDistance measures |
| 23:14.49 | vhaarr | CheckInteractDistance* |
| 23:15.08 | Pneumatus | 1 is inspect, 2 is trade, 3 is dual, 4 is follow, that's all we know for sure :P |
| 23:15.14 | arkanes | why do you think CheckInteractDistance is 9 yards? |
| 23:15.21 | Hjalte | vhaarr: Right. BW is 9 yards for me on saurfang. If I download DBM, I should not be able to check 10 and 11 yards apart, right? |
| 23:15.23 | vhaarr | no it isn't |
| 23:15.30 | vhaarr | http://paste.wowace.com/1603/ has the accurate distances per race |
| 23:15.38 | vhaarr | Hjalte: what what what |
| 23:15.41 | vhaarr | Hjalte: you don't get it |
| 23:15.55 | Hjalte | Yeah, there's a large chance of that :) |
| 23:15.55 | arkanes | vhaarr: measured relative to what? |
| 23:16.15 | vhaarr | arkanes: I don't know, the author of LibRangeCheck did the actual research |
| 23:16.38 | Shefki | That's bizzare. |
| 23:16.43 | arkanes | vhaarr: the issue is that there are, by my research, at least 3 different ways wow measures distance and none of them are obvious to players |
| 23:16.58 | vhaarr | arkanes: no, that's another issue entirely |
| 23:17.06 | vhaarr | that is NOT the issue I'm talking to Hjalte about at all |
| 23:17.12 | vhaarr | nor an issue I WANT to talk about now |
| 23:17.16 | vhaarr | talk to the librangecheck author |
| 23:17.25 | arkanes | so saying things like "X is 9 yards" isn't useful, you need to measure things relative to a standard you can check |
| 23:17.41 | vhaarr | in this context it makes no difference |
| 23:17.51 | vhaarr | the issue here is whether DBM or BigWigs is "more right" |
| 23:17.56 | vhaarr | but we both use _exactly_ the same API |
| 23:17.56 | arkanes | they're both right |
| 23:18.04 | arkanes | because a "yard" isn't a real thing in wow |
| 23:18.06 | Shefki | Umm... |
| 23:18.08 | vhaarr | we just say "9 yards" where they say "11 yards" |
| 23:18.14 | arkanes | you could call it 900 millipedes and it'd still be right |
| 23:18.15 | arkanes | exactly |
| 23:18.26 | vhaarr | stop talking, you're confusing Hjalte |
| 23:18.27 | vhaarr | :P |
| 23:18.36 | Shefki | Surely yard has a precie meaning within WoW. |
| 23:18.42 | arkanes | Shefki: nope |
| 23:18.44 | Pneumatus | a yard does have a precise meaning in wow |
| 23:18.50 | Shefki | That makes no sense. |
| 23:18.58 | arkanes | "a yard", as in "10 yard range" in a tooltip is not precise |
| 23:19.00 | Pneumatus | spells have ranges defined in yards |
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| 23:19.24 | Funkeh` | i like how the topic of discussion totally changed |
| 23:19.25 | Hjalte | vhaarr: All things aside - When I am able to identify someone standing 10 and 11 yards away - Why doesn't BW use 11 yards on Saurfang? |
| 23:19.44 | Shefki | Becuase you need to measure 10 yards and there is no measure for 10 yards. |
| 23:19.47 | Funkeh` | 11 yards doesn't exist |
| 23:19.48 | vhaarr | Hjalte: it uses the closest thing to 12 yards that you have available |
| 23:19.51 | Funkeh` | you jsut think it exists |
| 23:19.52 | Shefki | It's a judgmeent call if youw ant to use 9 or 11 |
| 23:20.05 | vhaarr | Hjalte: and DBM doesn't do it any better, it's actually less accurate than we are |
| 23:20.11 | Shefki | He chose 9, don't like it then use DBM or change your BigWigs. |
| 23:20.11 | arkanes | what would be nice is if you had encounter-specific labels and you said stuff like "out of blood boil range" |
| 23:20.17 | vhaarr | Shefki: no |
| 23:20.21 | vhaarr | Shefki: they chose 9 as well |
| 23:20.27 | vhaarr | Shefki: they just THINK it's measuring 11 |
| 23:20.28 | Hjalte | I just installed DBM and it was able to tell 10 and 11 yards apart. I move one step away from 10 yards of another person, he's not in my range check, I turn on 11 yards and he's there. |
| 23:20.29 | Shefki | Ohh then what does it matter. |
| 23:20.29 | Funkeh` | there is no 11 |
| 23:20.32 | Funkeh` | thats the point |
| 23:20.32 | arkanes | and that would avoid this whole "is it 9 yards or 11 yards" |
| 23:20.37 | vhaarr | Shefki: indeed, it doesn't |
| 23:20.48 | Shefki | Range check stuff is a crap shoot. |
| 23:20.55 | Shefki | You don't need it anyway. It's nice but don't live by it. |
| 23:21.06 | vhaarr | Hjalte: no |
| 23:21.14 | vhaarr | Hjalte: what you told apart is 7 and 9 yards |
| 23:21.21 | vhaarr | Hjalte: DBM just says it's 10 and 11 |
| 23:21.24 | Fisker | brrrs |
| 23:21.36 | Hjalte | vhaarr: Oh. I see. |
| 23:21.40 | arkanes | well |
| 23:21.48 | arkanes | maybe its 10 and 11, and you think it's 7 :P |
| 23:21.48 | Fisker | IT IS COLD |
| 23:21.54 | Shefki | I hate these boss mod which is better arguments. |
| 23:21.54 | vhaarr | arkanes: no difference |
| 23:21.57 | Shefki | They're dumb. |
| 23:21.58 | arkanes | right |
| 23:22.06 | arkanes | "out of blood boil" |
| 23:22.09 | arkanes | is what you care about |
| 23:22.22 | Shefki | Which you can't measure exactly. |
| 23:22.23 | vhaarr | it's not about "who's better", this was about proving that DBM was not better |
| 23:22.30 | Shefki | All you can do is estimate with what is available. |
| 23:23.00 | arkanes | Shefki: what you can do, is through experimentation, prove that if you're withing range of X ability then you're within range of blood boil |
| 23:23.11 | arkanes | Shefki: thats only loosely related to the ranges it says in tooltips |
| 23:23.31 | Shefki | arkanes: Are you saying the tooltip ranges are wrong? |
| 23:23.40 | arkanes | not so much wrong as... insufficient |
| 23:23.43 | WobWork | oh, Tauren have different range detections because their hitbox is larger? |
| 23:23.55 | arkanes | WobWork: depends on how the range is being measured |
| 23:24.22 | arkanes | WobWork: melee distance is measured from the edge of both targets hitbox, which is why you can't melee things that cant hit you back anymore |
| 23:24.43 | arkanes | some spells seem to be from casters edge to targets center, some seem to be from both centers, and some I just cant verify one way or another |
| 23:25.03 | WobWork | my tauren's box is huuuge... >.> <.< |
| 23:25.30 | arkanes | AOEs I wasn't able to get consistent results on either, I'm not sure if your center needs to be clear or your entire hitbox |
| 23:25.34 | arkanes | it might vary by spell |
| 23:26.25 | arkanes | but anyway, the exact distance in yards isn't important and really isn't knowable, what matters if CheckInteractDistance is far enough to avoid chaining a Nasty Thing of Doom or not |
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| 23:36.03 | yoshimo | next patch we will see a spell called "nasty thing of doom" ;) the itemnames in icc and the 3 fivemans are funny |
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