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00:08.41Ingela^hmm vhaarr
00:09.02Ingela^i just did so i create a bar, then stop it, give it all the things it needs and then start it
00:09.05Ingela^\AddOns\BigWigs\Libs\LibCandyBar-3.0\bars.lua:139: attempt to index field 'data' (a nil value)
00:09.07Ingela^i get this problem now
00:09.12Ingela^from bigwigs?! O.o
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00:10.26vhaarrno, from the library
00:10.33Ingela^yeah, but bigwigs library
00:10.34Ingela^=(
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00:10.45vhaarryou don't get it, and I won't explain
00:10.58Ingela^ok
00:11.09vhaarrshow me the whole error
00:12.17Ingela^http://paste.wowace.com/1612/
00:12.30vhaarrno no you don't understand what I said earlier
00:12.57vhaarrwhen a bar is :Stop'ed, it is returned to the library and you can NOT use it any more
00:13.20Ingela^i should rename it to Ingelas Failure
00:13.59arkanesIngela^: your CandyBar_Stop callback should check to see if the bar being stopped is one of yours and, if so, release any references to it
00:14.12vhaarrI already said that earlier as well
00:14.22vhaarr<vhaarr> Ingela^: as long as you clear the RaptureBAR variable in the stop() callback, yeah
00:14.23arkanesor you could just unconditionally replace & start a new bar when rapture goes off
00:14.26arkanesnot sure what behavior you want
00:14.32vhaarrsame thing
00:14.34Ingela^but you speak in tongues, i understand like half of it =(
00:14.42vhaarrask then
00:15.32arkaneswhats this bar tracking? The internal CD on rapture?
00:15.36Ingela^yes
00:16.02Ingela^this is also my first addon (if you didn't figure taht out by now)
00:16.05arkanesokay, so you have a "bar" variable
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00:16.11arkanesthat starts out being set to nil
00:16.29arkanesactually never mind
00:16.39arkanesdo you even need to save a reference to the bar at all? I don't think you do
00:16.54vhaarrhe doesn't
00:16.55vhaarrfire and forget
00:17.11arkanesbecause you can't get a rapture before the cd is up
00:17.21Ingela^no, but you can procc rapture 10 times at the same time
00:17.24Ingela^or even more
00:17.28arkaneshow can you do that?
00:17.34arkanesthats what the ICD is for
00:17.43Ingela^hehe
00:17.45Ingela^if they go of the same time
00:17.57Ingela^off*
00:17.59arkanesman
00:18.07arkanesblizzard keeps making that same mistake
00:18.16Ingela^yeap
00:18.22arkanesalright, what I think you should to do handle that is actually use AceEvents bucketing
00:18.39Ingela^shield up 10 pers, aoe damage for 15k, every shield fully absorbed, recieve 10 raptures
00:18.49vhaarrno, it's simple to just check if the bar is still runnig
00:18.54vhaarrlet me code it here
00:19.03arkanesthat works too though
00:19.13arkanesI'm actually writing the exact same code right now for my POM tracker :P
00:19.31arkanesin fact let me pastebin what I have here
00:21.14Tullerout of curiosity, is there a way to turn off the ability to submit bugs via the auto updater?
00:22.49arkaneshttp://paste.pocoo.org/show/163841/
00:23.33vhaarrIngela^: http://paste.wowace.com/1613/
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00:26.49Ingela^vhaarr, how much needs to exactly be there? if you change settings now like placement, you need to wait for the bar to end, then you can see the updates
00:27.13Ingela^only solution: make some kind of editing mode?
00:27.43arkanesyou'd probably want a test mode anyway
00:27.56arkanesbut no, you can just check for the nil-ness of the bar
00:28.08Ingela^nil-ness, i like that word :D
00:30.05Ingela^thank's a lot though vhaarr and arkanes, sorry for my non1337 skills :(
00:30.15arkaneseveryone starts somewhere
00:33.08Ingela^arkanes, do you have any idea how to make a test mode
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01:27.48onaforeignshoredoes UnitGUID("player") change while you're logged in?
01:31.58ShefkiNo
01:35.18Repo10xpbarnone: 03phyber 07master * v1.5-1-g104c0f4 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Show rep for faction headers like Alliance Vanguard in the tooltips.
01:35.37onaforeignshorearkanes: ping
01:37.04Repo10ingelasrapture: 03ingela * r15 core.lua:
01:37.06RepoFixed the anchoring problem hopefully. Thanks a lot arkanes and vhaarr!
01:37.51onaforeignshoreOnInitialize() and PLAYER_ALIVE() both have self.player = UnitGUID("player") - shouldn't it only be in OnInitialize so you set it once instead of multiple times (every time the PLAYER_ALIVE event occurs), or is my logic wrong?
01:38.37Xinhuanit sometimes returns nil.
01:38.46Xinhuanduring zoning or logging in
01:39.15onaforeignshoreso can't you set a timer event? or how would you solve that problem?
01:39.27Xinhuani would just UnitGUID("player") everytime i want it
01:39.48onaforeignshoreinstead of having it cached in a variable then
01:40.01Xinhuanoh u can cache it, but you would still need to check if its nil
01:40.17onaforeignshoreit's a wonder any addon works with all of the "work arounds" you need to do :p
01:41.25onaforeignshoreso if not self.player then self.player = UnitGUID("player) end in PLAYER_ALIVE() ?
01:41.45Xinhuani'm saying you need to check if your cached value is nil everytime you use the cache value
01:42.43onaforeignshorewhile self.player == nil do self.player = UnitGUID("player") end -- and pray :p
01:42.59Xinhuanits quite random when it decides to return nil or not
01:43.06Xinhuanbut it seems to be related to zoning/logging in
01:43.39Xinhuanin any case, you could set a loop to constantly get it until its non-nil, and then leave it forever
01:46.34Ingela^noob question: how the hell do i get my addon to show up on curse?
01:46.55quiescensvery carefully
01:47.05arkaneschecking in initialize and again in player_alive seems to work fine for me
01:47.10Ingela^not at al as it's looking now =(
01:47.25arkanesthe workaround is mainly because PLAYER_ALIVE doesn't seem to fire on a /reload
01:48.44Xinhuani can say UnitGUID("player") would nearly always return nil
01:48.52Xinhuanduring OnInitialize()
01:50.52ShefkiI've been using local player_guid = UnitGUID("player") just at the top of files for ages and I've never had an issue with it.
01:52.59Xinhuandunno then
01:53.12Xinhuani've got planty of cases where UnitGUID("player") returns nil to me
01:53.17Xinhuanwhen i used it in Omen
01:53.25Xinhuanloads of reports
01:53.29Xinhuanfrom lots of ppl
01:54.55Xinhuanplayer_guid could be nil in your case and it wouldn't generate any error if you only used it in == tests
01:54.58ShefkiI know we do it in the castbar module and the visualheal module to keep track of stuff that only applies to the player and I've never seen it not work.  It's possible they fixed it.
01:54.59Xinhuani use mine in table lookups
01:55.06Stanzillabtw Shefki that error report in the pb4 thread..I get such errors, too from time to time and I think it's lag or so
01:55.06Xinhuanso if it tries to index a nil value, it errors
01:55.10ShefkiThat's possible.
01:57.17Shadowedyea player GUID is definitely not available at file load
01:57.48ShadowedI specifically had that issue in LHC before I moved it to PLAYER_LOGIN
01:58.45Xinhuani've had UnitGUID("player") return nil during P_E_W in many cases
01:58.50Xinhuanthat's during zoning
01:58.58Xinhuansay from world to instance, or instance to world
01:59.14Repo10ingelasrapture: 03ingela * r16 v1.0/: Release.
01:59.20Ingela^oh wow
01:59.20Ingela^uhm
01:59.23Ingela^what did i do now
01:59.26ShefkiStanzilla: Hard to say what's causing that, the error is actually occuring in the LuaText.
01:59.32Shadowedwell LHC would fail quite horribly if it's nil
01:59.41Shadowedso I haven't been seeing issues with it not being available on PEW
02:00.03Xinhuando you use it in any case to lookup a table?
02:00.28Shadowedyea
02:00.29Xinhuanlike i said, a value can be nil and it wouldn't report any errors if you only used in for ==
02:00.36Shadowedit does guidToUnit[playerGUID] on PLAYER_LOGIN
02:00.48Shadowedso if it ever returned nil on PLAYER_LOGIN, it'll error 100% of the time
02:01.02StanzillaShefki: http://pastey.net/131242
02:01.06Xinhuanits pretty odd
02:01.18Xinhuanperhaps it never returns nil during PLAYER_LOGIN
02:01.25Xinhuanbut not reliable during P_E_W
02:01.31ShadowedIt seems odd we get the name but not the GUID instantly
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02:01.45ShefkiStanzilla: WTF, where did you find that text?
02:01.52Xinhuani assume GUID is a server side constant
02:02.10ShadowedAddons are generally the "last" thing the client does, no?
02:02.12StanzillaShefki: he said he googled it or so ^^
02:02.19ShadowedI would imagine it first loads all of the server side data
02:03.10ShefkiStanzilla: the second line should be: local color = PowerColor(power_token)
02:03.38ShefkiStanzilla: and then remove teh *255 on the next to last line.
02:04.08ShefkiAnd excuse me I mean 3th line not 2nd line.
02:05.23ShefkiStanzilla: http://pastey.net/131243
02:06.05Stanzillahokay thanks
02:06.45Xinhuanapparently no
02:06.52Xinhuanbecause if client side is last
02:07.07Xinhuanwe wouldn't need events for spells/talents data becoming available
02:07.13StanzillaShefki: http://pastey.net/131244
02:07.14Shadowedtrue
02:07.27ShadowedI wonder why they did it like that
02:07.40Shadowedseems like it'd make more sense to load all the server data then the actual UI
02:08.12ShefkiStanzilla: Umm use what I put in my pastey not whatever you're using now.
02:09.18Stanzillahm maybe copy paste fail :p
02:09.42ShadowedSuppose it could be for efficiency, load the UI while loading server data, but there's a consistency to when data is available
02:15.19arkanesI had assumed that the players GUID would be available instantly the same way your race/class were, but I was wrong :(
02:16.27ShefkiYou know I just went and intentionally broke our player_guid stuff and I've never seen it break like it did when I did that intentionally.
02:16.37ShefkiSo I can't say I share your issues with getting the player_guild on load.
02:16.47Shefkis/guild/guid/
02:17.43ShadowedDon't forget if you just reload, it's going to be available
02:17.44Shadowedyou have to relog
02:18.16ShefkiI edited out the local player_guild = UnitGUID("player")
02:18.26ShefkiSo I could see what would happen if it wasn't set.
02:18.31ShefkiNever had a single report of those issues.
02:20.16ShefkiAll the modules are load on demand though, so it's entirely possible we don't load them until after it's safe.
02:20.32arkanesah
02:20.37arkaneswell that would make a large difference, yeah
03:19.49Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * 0.14-beta-27-gd4ae89d / (7 files in 2 directories): [+7 commits] (3 truncated)
03:19.50Repod4ae89d: Added /eg rate, works the same as /rate just another alias for it
03:19.51Repo4752875: Tweaked party notes to account for rating being moved
03:19.54Repo2784635: Added raid notes, works the same as party notes but with a specific interface for supporting 10-25 people, use /rate to open
03:19.54Repo35d913a: Changed raid summary to inspect in an instance only, rather than being locked to raid instances
03:21.11Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v0.15-beta * b57bad9 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as beta 0.15
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03:40.52Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r181 SMD_Timers.lua: -fix the Refresh function again, darn Marksman hunters...
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03:48.32Repo10simple-md: 03Starinnia * r183 / (2 files in 1 directory):
03:48.34Repo-make running bars clear if you leave a party/raid (untested)
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04:44.05PrimerDoes anyone know of a bag addon that can group items sets together based on the blizz equipment manager?
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04:48.07Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r192 / (6 files in 2 directories):  (Message trimmed by 1 line)
04:48.09RepoAllPlayed:
04:48.10RepoIMPORTANT: Save your \WTF\Account\<account name>\SavedVariables\AllPlayed.lua before using this alpha
04:48.11Repo- Now using AceDB-3.0 instead of AceDB-2.0
04:48.12Repo- Will convert data from 2.0 to 3.0 but not the profile. Time to look at the new config dialog.
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05:26.25Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r193 / (5 files in 1 directory): AllPlayed:
05:26.27Repo- Profile management
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05:57.08Repo10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r246 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update
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06:16.46Repo- Replace AceLocale-2.2 with AceLocal-3.0
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06:58.05Repo10collectinator: 03Torhal 07master * Beta4-9-g70e1b71 Collectinator.lua: [+1 commit] Fixed pompy's haphazard commenting out. Way to test!
07:01.40orionshockccv3 api is down?
07:03.39TorhalI just used it to update
07:03.45TorhalAnd what do you mean "API"?
07:04.07Repo10big-wigs: 037destiny * r6982 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Citadel/Rotface: Fix Ooze stack, koKR Update
07:05.07Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.4.4b Data/LootData.lua: [+1 commit] Automatic miner run on 01/10/10 01:04:50.
07:05.14Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.4.4b * d3bacea /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.4.4b
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07:13.51Repo10travelagent: 03Torhal 043.3.0-1.0.1 * 4e7d411 /: [new tag] Tagging as 3.3.0-1.0.1
07:16.15Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 07master * 0.4.5B Data/LootData.lua: [+1 commit] reverting that miner run wowhead seams to have all sorts of ninja looting going on
07:16.22Repo10yssbossloot: 03yssaril 040.4.5B * 235f725 /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.4.5b beware of ninjas
07:20.29TorhalYssaril: Erm, ok.
07:21.10YssarilTorhal: a bunch of loot entries for bosses went AWOL /sigh
07:21.15TorhalEww
07:26.23Yssarili could always use the nasty mining method of querying every item in their database for boss assosiation (but i don;t think 10ths of thousands of requests would make them happy)
07:27.30TorhalVerily doubt it.
07:28.42Yssarilalso that would take forever to run
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07:53.39digmousehttp://www.wow.com/2010/01/09/cataclysm-friends-and-family-alpha-to-begin-tuesday/
07:53.41digmousewoot?
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08:25.58RepoNew addon: http://www.wowace.com/addons/iccautopilot/. ICCAutoPilot. DigitalSorceress (Manager/Author). Approved by Torhal.
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09:12.37Repo40429fe: Fixed BigWigs support.
09:12.42Repod7cd740: Removed Cork support since its anchor has been made private.
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09:25.17Repode9b07d: Ticket #667: Deleted groups show up again in subsequent config mode
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09:25.19Repoca83ccc: Use AnyUp for the Clicks we capture since it's what we really want
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09:27.05Repo[+] Update of version number for new translations, translators please update your languages
09:27.34Repo10zzhuntar: 03Turaka 04v2.8.2 * r70 : Tagging as v2.8.2
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09:44.44Repo[-] Fixed an enormous mistake of mine, it wasnt a mistake of the translations!
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09:56.27Gnarfoz@project urban-achiever
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09:56.33Repo10zzml: 03Turaka * r44 / (2 files in 1 directory): [+] Modified guild
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10:08.57Repo10rating-buster: 03TrAsHeR * r273 RatingBuster-Locale-frFR.lua: frFR update
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10:43.25Repo10fu-bar_addon-spam-fu: 03yoshimo * r110 / (2 files in 1 directory): Added:
10:43.27Repo- AFKTracker
10:43.28Repo- Blessed
10:43.29Repo- Elitist Group
10:53.08GnarfozShadowed: you're including a full copy of LDB in ElitistGroup, including readme and changelog
10:57.14yoshimoaddons using their name as first and then a couple of suffixes as second half of their prefix, cant they just use one prefix ? ;)
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11:13.53orionshockGnarfoz, that's because tekkub didn't setup the LDB repo properly to begin with
11:14.25nevcairielit doesnt matter, does it?
11:14.31nevcairielscrew that 1kb of text
11:16.18Gnarfoznevcairiel: find -iname changelog*   is annoyed by it! :p
11:16.40Gnarfozorionshock: why? LDB is supposed to be hard-embedded, not external'd
11:16.56Gnarfoz(IIRC?)
11:17.35orionshockGnarfoz, imo, one should not have special cookies if one dosn't have to
11:17.59Gnarfozcookies? where be my cookies? :<
11:18.39orionshockhowever considering that here we scrutinize special libs like people avoiding the plague .. it's not that bad.. but still bad.
11:19.42orionshocknevcairiel, OMG i found that BabbleFish.lua file in BT4 & it is a Godsend for working with localizations, thank you!
11:20.10Repo10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.4-beta-5-g5cdba5e DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+1 commit] add global time tracking. add options for it, add options for overall and specifics. Current Runtime is always applied to output if it's available.
11:23.23Gnarfoz@project dungeonspeedrunner
11:23.25RepoGnarfoz: http://www.wowace.com/addons/dungeonspeedrunner/. DungeonSpeedRunner. Game: WoW. OrionShock (Manager/Author). Updated: 3 days ago
11:23.44nevcairielGnarfoz: you just need to make sure LDB is always in your zip .. if you turn off no-lib creation, you can as well just .pkgmeta LDB
11:26.32orionshockhehe, this "AcceptDailies" addon on curseforge looks interesting and familiar.. alot like my SOCD v1 - v3 write ups...
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11:52.25asmodainevcairiel: this is odd, doing the eye of acherus quest of the deathknight starting zone, I am getting the vehicle bar twice. One replaces where my normal bar is and then the explicit vehicle bar a bit above that.
11:52.57nevcairielyou need to make sure your petbar is set to "hide on vehicle", or it'll do that
11:53.16asmodaiAh, let me doublecheck that
11:53.52asmodainevcairiel: mm, it is
11:53.58asmodaipet bar has hide on vehicle ui
11:54.06asmodaihide with even
11:54.11nevcairielscreenshot then
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11:58.18asmodainevcairiel: will do when I encounter it again
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12:11.03orionshockasmodai, check your main bar settings. depending on what you want, you'll need to hide the main bar with vehicle or set to hide the default ui
12:11.12orionshocki get that too, but don't care
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12:18.44nevcairielmmm too bad, libavcodec cant properly playback a bluray vc-1 movie .. oh well, back to using powerdvd
12:20.30asmodaiorionshock: So far it always showed only the bottom bar (bar1) on my shaman, hence my surprise. So I could just disable the verhicle bar then?
12:21.06nevcairielthe vehicle bar is just the bar that shows the leave vehicle button
12:24.07asmodaiah
12:24.58nevcairieli dunno, the whole system is pretty complicated right now
12:25.06nevcairielblizz changed it around too much
12:27.36asmodaiThen I am confused :D
12:27.59asmodaiLike I said, will make a screenie
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12:40.12Groktarare you alive?
12:40.16Groktar</evilcylon>
12:46.34onaforeignshoreI use svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libguild-1-0/mainline/trunk in my .pkgmeta, but if I only wanted the libguild-1.0 folder inside the lib, would it be svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/libguild-1-0/mainline/trunk/libguild-1-0 ?
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13:57.33profalbertdoes anyone know, what itemlevel is required to queue for a heroic?
13:59.02yoshimodepends on the heroic i think
14:00.27yoshimothey said a few times "gear requirements for (one of the 3 new 5mans) set to a higher level"
14:02.17profalbertdon't care, just any heroic ilvl-average 160 is not enough
14:03.37Groktar<PROTECTED>
14:03.46Groktar:p
14:04.41profalbertyou bastard :P
14:04.56Groktari should have edited the rest of the logs, too
14:05.42yoshimowhy did you edit it ? ;)
14:06.06Groktarso someone would start a thread like that
14:06.07profalbertfor fun?
14:06.30Groktarya
14:07.33yoshimoi know martins fury hits for  a few millions, but honestly, how could he believe that? ;)
14:08.02Groktarit's an exploit!
14:08.11Groktara few people have sent me tells
14:08.15Groktari didn't exactly deny it
14:09.43yoshimodid you at least edit the log in a way so its a bit harder to notice instead of adding a few 100k hits?
14:10.21Groktarwell
14:11.00Groktarkind of a pita to do anything more if i'm using using notepad
14:11.00Groktarheh
14:11.17koaschtenGroktar admit it
14:11.22koaschtenyou cleaved and whirlwinded like a champ
14:11.33Groktaron saurfang?
14:12.31Funkeh`koaschten, FoK off! we like our cleave and ww!
14:12.44koaschtenna just wondering
14:12.52Groktarstill wouldn't cleave/ww on saurfang
14:12.52yoshimogroktar, you finished off the bloodbeasts with cleace and ww ;)
14:12.54Groktar>.>
14:12.56koaschtencause 16k on saurfang is really alot ;)
14:13.02Funkeh`gotta get extra dps on those blood beasts!
14:13.14koaschtentrying to figure out what you did as the log doesnt even show hysteria gains ^^
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14:13.44Groktarworldoflogs always does weird things to our saurfang attempts, too
14:13.46yoshimoadd a few "0" in a few lines ;)
14:13.52Groktarmerlins will be at 100% activity
14:13.59Groktareveryone else will be under 90
14:16.29Groktarcomes out to like 20 seconds of inactivity to get to that
14:16.47Groktarwhich is obviously wrong
14:16.56Groktarsince all the melee just sit behind the boss and faceroll
14:18.49yoshimoretribution-rotation , press 1-8 and if cd allows it, start with key 1 ;)
14:19.18Groktarpretty much
14:19.33Groktarone of our paladin tanks has two macros
14:19.44Groktar"pull" and "tank"
14:19.53Groktarpress 1 on the pull
14:20.01Groktar222222222222222222222222222222 for the rest
14:20.16yoshimowell you can reduce everything to a few macros, but thats boring
14:20.35Groktarwarrior threat would suck if you did that
14:21.07yoshimoit doesnt work with warriors? ;) nice one
14:21.21Groktarwell, with sword and board procs
14:21.37Groktaryour devastates and revenges have a 30% chance to refresh the cd on shield slam
14:21.40Groktarand make it free
14:21.55Groktarand revenge won't always be up when it's off cd
14:21.59Groktarusually up, but not always
14:22.23Groktari'm sure i could macro fury dps tho
14:22.36yoshimoi know slice and dice, but whats swoard&board?
14:22.49Groktar<Groktar> your devastates and revenges have a 30% chance to refresh the cd on shield slam
14:22.49koaschtenyou could macro mutilate dps too if you don't care about the last 5%
14:23.22Groktarthat same paladin used to use a castrandom macro for ret
14:23.24koaschtenbring up hunger for blood and slice and dice and then just "mutilate -> envenom"
14:23.32Groktarand mash it
14:24.52yoshimoisnt castrandom below the proper smash button with the highest dmg priority that isnt on cd ?
14:25.12nevcairielsure, but its only one button :P
14:25.45koaschtenoh common feral tank isnt better
14:26.19Groktarand then ardent defender
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14:26.33Groktarit's like a last stand that presses itself!
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14:26.41nevcairielferal dps is rather hard to macro, though =P
14:26.55Groktarya, i've seen the flow charge
14:26.58Groktar*flow chart
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14:27.26Groktarhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/rezman/3525757995/sizes/o/
14:35.10koaschtenI don't think feral dps is that hard :/
14:36.20nevcairielits not that hard, but its hard to macro
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14:39.59koaschtenwhy would you want to macro it if you can kinda autopilot through it with a mod?
14:40.11koaschteneventhorizon, feralbynight ....
14:42.53nevcairielmods like that exist for every class
14:47.53sb|workwell you dont need that mod for mutilate rogues :p
14:48.01sb|work1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, ... :p
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15:12.27Tuskhello
15:12.58Tuskis there a way to limit the visualheal indicator going outside health bar on pitbull 4 ?
15:15.38Repo10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r195 / (4 files in 2 directories): AllPlayed:
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15:24.04asmodaisb|work: Sounds like dancing instructions
15:25.11yoshimoemergency call ;)
15:27.18Pneumatussb|work: thats why i play combat
15:27.28Pneumatusso i can use as many as 5 buttons!
15:28.16asmodaiI at least have buttons with a clear priority I can faceroll!
15:28.22asmodaiNo wait...
15:28.24Pneumatus(that and i don't have a second dager)
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15:45.23yoshimotusk, i only know a ticket that requested that, not sure if it is implemented now
15:48.47Tuskyoshimo: i guess it's not cause there's no option to do it ^^
15:50.00Tuskwhile it's ok in standard group it's not cool in "gris shape"
15:51.47Tuskgrid*
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16:06.16yoshimohttp://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/tickets/609-improved-configurable-visual-heal-display/ , 611-613 i think those are the ticket you need to vote ;)
16:08.54Vangualworking on limiting the overheal display atm
16:10.22yoshimocritical holy light for 14k , would clutter the screen a lot i guess, if used to gether with glyph and beacon of light :D
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16:12.54Vangualhmm, when using deficit healthbars, has visualheal always been placed outside the healthbar?
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16:17.58Gnarfoz!api GetAchieve
16:17.58lua_botFound 9 possible results for 'GetAchieve': GetAchievementCriteriaInfo, GetAchievementNumRewards, GetAchievementCategory, GetAchievementInfo, GetAchievementNumCriteria, GetAchievementLink, GetAchievementReward, GetAchievementComparisonInfo, GetAchievementInfoFromCriteria
16:35.14KriLL3does the honor tokens from arena points vanish when the season ends? or can I stack em?
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16:38.47Fiskeryou're here
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16:59.15Tuskin pitbull4 how do i only show my buffs on bars but filtering the ones like shapeshifting one?
16:59.15Gnarfozamazing
16:59.18Tuskif that's possible
16:59.29GnarfozShadowed's Unitframes even surpass Grid in CPU usage
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17:01.03yoshimoGnarfoz, more cpu-usage than grid is possible? ;)
17:03.26Gnarfozyoshimo: obviously, it is
17:06.11yoshimoquickpolling maybe? i think shadowed wont make the same mistakes as grid1 did
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17:13.23Gnarfozyoshimo: what
17:13.38Gnarfozalso: whatever he does, it's using more cpu than grid for me, that's all I can say :D
17:20.41yoshimoand i was thinking about replacing grid with suf ;)
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17:27.38Gnarfozyoshimo: well... if you're running both now, you'll at least lose Grid's performance loss :P
17:29.39yoshimoindeed ;)
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17:35.15taledenanyone know offhand what event are sufficient to monitor changes to weapon enchants?
17:35.35Pneumatusspell_aura_applied probably
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17:47.23Pneumatusyoshimo: RBS -> RaidBuffStatus still needs adding to asfu i think
17:52.16yoshimoi think you are right, and i think im still missing the old 2 elitist group prefixes , before it was renamed
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17:58.00yoshimoi already have a TODO for the next major Pneumatus, in case you didnt see it already ;)
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17:58.35Gnarfozyoshimo: well... install an old rev ;D
17:58.52Pneumatusyoshimo: re: your last comment on the headcount thread, its broken because the ldb thing is cocked up :P
17:59.02Pneumatusthe fubar one still works but the ldb one doesnt
17:59.51yoshimowell i didnt have access to my headcount files, and for the fubarplugins the fix works ;)
17:59.52Pneumatusand i can't figure out why deathwhisper isn't being logged, i think it's because she's never added to the boss table in the first place
18:00.22Pneumatusi disabled the ldb plugin and am using the fubar2broker version
18:02.23nevcairielasmodai: you know, if you want to download python, and accidentally go to python.com instead of .org .. you get distracted :P .. i found it quite funny what was on that domain :P
18:02.59durcyngod damn it nev, you could say nsfw :(
18:03.02Pneumatusi'm not entirely sure a fix can easily be made to make gunship end trigger properly either because the yell trigger comes from an npc that's not in the fight :<
18:03.26nevcairieldurcyn: you can always say it was an honest mistake looking for python! :P
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18:16.24harldamn, i died with Lethon at about 60%
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18:40.55yoshimoone of the classic worldbosses, wasnt he?
18:49.02Brunerswho was?
18:51.01yoshimolethon
18:51.23nevcairielone of the green dragons, yes
18:51.42nevcairiellethon was fun
18:52.29yoshimoi hate their sleeping gas clouds
18:52.41nevcairielisnt that just one dragon?
18:53.03yoshimoi think all 4 dragons have this ability
18:53.06Brunersoh that one
18:53.25nevcairieloh yeah, all have that
18:53.32Stanzillaand omglong cooldowns on every spell
18:53.33Brunersclassic was much more fun
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18:53.42Repo* Fix a few minor things.
18:53.53taledensomeone offered me a patch for my addon to identify which temp weapon enchant is on each weapon, but it uses tooltip scanning.. is there really no better way?
18:54.24taledenGetWeaponEnchantInfo() returns existance, expiration and charges, but not name it seems
18:54.26nevcairielfor temp enchants .. i dont think so
18:54.31taledenbooooourns
18:54.38profalbertall other addons use tooltip-scanning too
18:54.55taledenanyone know a nice clean example I could look at, offhand?
19:03.50ShadowedNo there isn't
19:03.56Shadowedtemp enchants are the devil
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19:13.45yoshimodoes putricide only have 5 different items or is the rest unknown?
19:14.23nevcairielprobably unknown
19:15.04CrazyBennyprobably just 5, all bosses that drop tokens usually drop less other items
19:15.14CrazyBennysaurfang drops just 5 items aswell I believe
19:16.42yoshimommo champ lists 12 for saurfang
19:17.05yoshimoi guess a few are missing
19:17.14CrazyBenny10 or 25men? ;)
19:17.34yoshimo10 normal
19:18.02CrazyBennyah, then its 12 aswell....at least atlasloot says so
19:18.14CrazyBennyjust 5 on 25men tho
19:19.28yoshimoi dont think there is more different loot on the same boss on different raidsizes, so i guess they are missing loot
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19:23.56ShadowedXinhuan: Goon? :p
19:32.56Stanzilla\o/ putricide down
19:33.03sb|workgrats
19:33.22Stanzillathx
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19:38.00Repo10boss-notes: 03Bethink * r265 / (2 files in 2 directories):
19:38.02RepoFIX: Collapse parameter of notifications is a number, not an integer.
19:38.53Gnarfozyoshimo: time to flame Shadowed!
19:42.23sb|workStanzilla: 10 or 25?
19:42.31Stanzilla25
19:45.26Stanzillasb|work: 4 tries left :o
19:46.36sb|workmh...
19:46.41sb|workwe failed 10 yesterday :o
19:47.00sb|workneed to rework our tactics :p
19:47.01Stanzilla:(
19:47.09sb|workonly 2 ranged
19:47.30sb|workso need something like 3 healers and heal through green ooze explosion
19:47.33sb|work*shrug*
20:04.14Pneumatusgiant insect swarm in the tunnel to putricide fails
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20:11.38sb|workPneumatus: i like it.. well maybe only the first time :p
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20:15.55asmodaiI wish the maps had elevation information.
20:16.05asmodaiRoutes would be so much nicer that way
20:16.54asmodaiI wonder if you could provide that as auxillary data in some way.
20:17.32Pneumatusyou can blacklist areas
20:17.53Pneumatuswhich will stop routes trying to go up/down something that's stupidly high/impassible
20:21.40FiskerZOMG!
20:21.45FiskerAce3 is using 30MB of memory :O
20:21.59Fiskerhoho
20:22.16yoshimoshadowed, at which revisions did you change prefixes in EG?
20:24.16harlsomething's wrong with the curse page. it shows i should login to save favourites and when i click on login in the upper right part it gets me to the free/premium registering/info page, but i can still just access my profile and favourites pages.
20:24.38asmodaiPneumatus: mmm, yeah, although I would love to make it a bit more intelligent rather than blacklisting, but fair enough point.
20:25.15harlas if i was logged in for some of the site's functions but not for others.
20:26.57Shadowedyoshimo: dunno
20:26.58Shadoweda few?
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20:29.39asmodaiPneumatus: Also funny that once you start farming it seems that almost every next node seems to generate a gatherable node.
20:32.28asmodaiAnd man does that deathcharger mount sound get on your nerves if you frequently dismount/mount.
20:33.49Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6986 Citadel (5 files in 2 directories):
20:33.51RepoCitadel/Rotface: Tweak some warnings, cleanups, remove flood message for now.
20:40.39Repo10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 07master * 0.7.2b GoblinVendorFilter.lua: [+1 commit] fix errors caused by addons querying for items that don;t exist (just return nil like the default ui)
20:40.46Repo10goblinvendorfilter: 03yssaril 040.7.2b * 0b26f2e /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.7.2b
20:41.45Shefkickknight: Damn you.
20:41.51Vangualheh
20:41.58Fiskerno damn you Yssaril
20:42.02FiskerDAMN YOU TO HELL!
20:42.08ShefkiDid you even test this code before committing it.
20:42.13ShefkiYou broke everyones profiles.
20:42.18nevcairielhahaha
20:42.20Stanzillackknight: see!
20:42.29Vangualyay for backups ;)
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20:42.48YssarilFisker: what do you want
20:42.57asmodaiYssaril: /ignore apparently
20:43.13ShefkiVangual: Backups don't help when the SV is loaded properly but the addon just doesn't use it.
20:43.20asmodaiFisker: besides, you're supposed to be dead inside Groktar's closet?
20:43.43ShefkiVangual: Literally every load is back at defaults.
20:43.45Fiskernaw asmodai :(
20:43.55VangualShefki: i backup the addon itself and just rollback. too lazy to revert git ;)
20:43.56Fiskeri just wanted to ask Yssaril for a class filter :(
20:44.04ShefkiOhh that would help yeah.
20:44.20YssarilFisker: explain
20:44.24Vanguallack of lua error was confusing
20:44.27Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6987 Citadel/Rotface.lua: Citadel/Rotface: Flash on explode, shorten infection text.
20:44.32Vangualxml typo?
20:44.45FiskerItems with a class restriction
20:45.07FiskerFor example i only want to see items that are Classes: Paladin or ones without restriction
20:45.08nevcairielShefki: does it also screw up the SV itself, or is it fixable?
20:45.21ShefkiIt's fixable.
20:45.27ShefkiOhh.
20:45.36ShefkiLet me check.
20:45.45YssarilFisker: should be possible (whats a convinient vendor to test this at?)
20:46.01ShefkiNope the SV is fine.
20:46.03nevcairieljust one of the badge vendors
20:46.06nevcairielthey sell idols
20:46.08Fiskerdunno but you can just check archavon in yssbossloot if needed
20:46.17Fiskervault of archavon that is
20:46.20Stanzillayeah the sv stays the same, just doesn't load
20:46.36nevcairielbetter then not loading it, but saving it :P
20:47.55Shadowedhow did ckknight manage to break the profiles
20:48.44ShefkiI'm really not sure yet Shadowed.
20:48.56Shadowedthat seems like an impressive feat
20:49.16Shefkihe added support for LibBossIDs to provide a different border color for bosses.
20:49.29Shadowedhence an impressive feat!
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20:51.16KalrothShadowed would have corrupted everybodys profiles when editing the .toc file of a non-published addon!
20:51.37Silowyiso did blizzard fix the acidic blood stuff?
20:51.50Fiskerwhat is there to fix?
20:52.36YssarilShadowed: since you have been dealing with elitistgroup is do you know if there is an easy way to scan for item class restrictions?
20:52.47ShadowedAs in, the Classes: tag?
20:52.52Yssarilyea
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20:53.05Yssarili want to avoid having to scann the tooltip
20:53.11Shadowedyou can't
20:53.31Shadowedtooltip scan for "^" .. string.gsub(ITEM_CLASSES_ALLOWED, "%%s", "(.+)") basically
20:54.05Yssarilkk
20:54.38Shadowedthen you'd string split that, and check it again LOCALIZED_CLASS_NAMES_MALE (or maybe female I guess) to get the tokens
20:54.59nevcairieli dont think they have female stuff in the tooltips
20:55.11kwaakHi, I'm working on my rotation assistance mod. Is it possible to test wether a more powerful buff/debuff is already on a target? Hamstring being less powerful than cripling poison for example?
20:55.55Shadowednope
20:56.20ShadowedYou'd have to make a giant database, and even then you couldn't account for most cases
20:56.57kwaakOk.
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20:57.17Hjaltedahdasdjadashd at ICC lag. Man, we had Festergut on 20k one try.
20:58.30YssarilFisker: bahh i'll look at it tomorrow
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21:02.30Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6988 Citadel/Rotface.lua: Citadel/Rotface: bugfix
21:03.39ShefkiOk so...
21:03.44ShefkiThis one line causes the problem.
21:03.45Shefki<PROTECTED>
21:03.50ShefkiI'm baffled by how that breaks profiles.
21:04.13nevcairielI know why, i bet you
21:04.26nevcairielHe calls it in the main chunk, after the NewAddon call?
21:04.40ShefkiIt's in a main file yeah.
21:04.55nevcairielWhy is it not a optdep?
21:04.57nevcairielWell anyway
21:05.17nevcairielif you load addons after you called NewAddon, it'll fire the OnInit early
21:05.21nevcairielbefore the SV is actually available
21:05.26Shadowedoh?
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21:05.46nevcairielBut since there is no reason to actually do that
21:05.51nevcairielwe didnt bother to fix it
21:05.54ShadowedIsn't OnInit supposed to be fired when ADDON_LOADED for the addon fires
21:05.57nevcairieljust optdep whatever you would be loading
21:06.08nevcairielexcept we don't know which addon is which :P
21:06.15Shadowedoh that's true
21:06.17nevcairielit calls OnInit on the next ADDON_LOADED
21:06.29Shadowedoh haha
21:06.45*** part/#wowace Pirate_Hunter (n=Pirate_H@87.74.76.230)
21:06.46nevcairielIts only *ever* an issue if you LoadAddOn stuff
21:06.50nevcairielwhich you really shouldnt need to
21:07.19nevcairielEither: OptDep stuff, or if you insist on LoadAddon .. do it *before* NewAddon, or in OnInit
21:18.35asmodaichrist, gathering 245 copper goes fast enough, but then 6 minutes for smelting >_<
21:18.52nevcairielat least its one click and go afk
21:19.31asmodaiyea
21:20.14yoshimothe only problem is , when you need to produce multiple things and combine it
21:20.28yoshimorequires hardwareinput ;(
21:20.29Repo10pitbull4: 03Shefki 07master * v4.0.0-beta8-10-g02fa3be / (3 files in 1 directory): [+1 commit] Ticket 673: Profiles broken because ckknight fails to test his code.
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21:24.34Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6989 Citadel/Putricide_Dogs.lua: Citadel/Putricide_Dogs: bugfix mod disabling
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21:25.37ShefkiIs curse fucked for anyone else?
21:25.46Shadowednot likely
21:25.49Shadowedit's not Friday evening
21:26.00ShefkiYeah well project pages don't load on curse.
21:26.05Shadowednope it seems to be fucked
21:26.10Shadoweds/nope/yes/
21:26.11Pneumatushardly anything is loading
21:26.25yoshimodidnt the provider have problems recently?
21:26.37Stanzillayeah projects pages do not work
21:27.56KriLL3It's not currently possible to hide the power bar in PB4 when it's empty/full correct?
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21:41.57Repo10shadowed-unit-frames: 03Shadowed 07master * v3.0.6-18-g99fafef / (5 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits]
21:41.59Repo99fafef: Separated raid frames can now be setup to use more than one row for group display
21:42.00Repoa9d340d: Upped column spacing to -30 through 100
21:42.02Repoe21df6f: Added defaults for groups per row
21:42.03Repo0089999: Removed AceTimer-3.0 embed
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21:50.19AntiarcCurse is buggered for me, yeah
21:51.25FiskerAntiarc !
21:51.32AntiarcFisker !
21:51.39Fiskeri was worried
21:51.40Fisker:(
21:51.51AntiarcAlso, roffles, PoisonSwapper is generating 1.5261 points/day for me! :V
21:52.20nevcairielthe addon that stopped working? :P
21:52.23Antiarcyes
21:52.35AntiarcIf you try to load it, it prints a message and disables itself.
21:52.36AntiarcThat's all it does.
21:52.45yoshimoyou cant change weapons with addons in combat, can you?
21:52.49AntiarcNo
21:52.52AntiarcNot as of 3.3
21:52.57AntiarcBut that change was made because of PoisonSwapper :V
21:53.00Fiskerdamnit
21:53.05AntiarcAlso, yoshimo, I wrote the ts3 parser for Chatter
21:53.05yoshimoi know antiarc ;)
21:53.09Fiskerso they ruined my lanceswapper
21:53.12Fiskerboooooooooooooooooo
21:53.13AntiarcYou'd gone offline by the time I saw your question
21:53.22yoshimoyou dont need a lanceswapper in totc ;)
21:53.29Fiskerwhy not?
21:53.44yoshimoantiarc, i think its possible to inject a nickname into the link as well
21:53.50arkanesmy lanceswapper works fine
21:53.53Fiskerts3 btw?
21:53.55FiskerThe Sims 3?
21:53.56arkanesout of combat, of course
21:53.56Antiarcyoshimo: It should be doing that
21:53.57AntiarcAlready
21:54.09NechcknAntiarc same here.  Error pages o' plenty!  ;-)
21:54.18Fiskeryeah arkanes but it doesn't automatically remove it after completing the jousting
21:54.25Fiskerbecause you're still in combat for some seconds
21:54.26arkanesmine does
21:54.26AntiarcIt does it when you click a link to copy/paste it, so links are unmangled in chat, but when you copy/paste you get a customized version
21:54.36arkanesits not instant, naturally
21:54.48yoshimoi might have read the changelog wrong, i thought that was only with mumble
21:55.02jnwhitehAntiarc: there's a library issue with SexyCooldown at the moment
21:55.07Antiarcjnwhiteh: Oh?
21:55.09Fiskeroh yeah!
21:55.10jnwhitehare you aware of it, or should I jump in game?
21:55.16AntiarcI'm not, if you could relay it
21:55.22FiskerYou also made InternalCooldowns right?
21:55.25jnwhitehkk
21:55.33Antiarcyoshimo: I wrote it for Mumble originally, then sb|work asked for a TS3 version, so I added that
21:55.34AntiarcFisker: yes
21:55.42Fiskerit doesn't track the ashen verdict rings
21:55.43Fisker:(
21:55.48AntiarcYeah, I need to add those
21:55.59AntiarcFetch me a spellid = itemid mapping
21:56.01AntiarcAnd I will paste it in
21:56.09AntiarcElse you will have to wait until I get annoyed by it
21:56.19Antiarc(lazy author is lazy)
21:56.21jnwhitehAntiarc: http://pastey.net/131275
21:56.29AntiarcDanke. I'll fix it up.
21:56.34AntiarcThat explains another errors someone had.
21:57.04jnwhiteh=)
21:57.44AntiarcHm
21:57.50AntiarcI think my child ran off with my authenticator again.
21:57.55jnwhitehlol
21:58.05AntiarcOh, there it is, in the trash
21:58.09Antiarc204060
21:58.14AntiarcOH NOES
21:58.15Fiskerhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=72415 http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=72417 http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=72413 http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=72419
21:58.16AntiarcMAH ACCOUTZ
21:58.34cralorlol
21:58.35Fiskernot sure if it's the buff or the trigger you need :o
21:58.47AntiarcThe buff and the itme ID
21:59.31FiskerItem: 50403 & 50404 to Spell: 72414
21:59.38Fisker(slacker btw
21:59.39Fisker)
22:00.04Fisker50397 50398 > 72416
22:00.26MegalonAntiarc: http://paste.wowace.com/1616/
22:00.26Fisker50401 50402 > 72413
22:00.37Fiskeri hate you Megalon
22:00.44AntiarcThanks!
22:00.55FiskerYou just had to wait until the very last of the rings to tell him, huh?!
22:01.02WobWorkawesome
22:01.05WobWorkthanks to chrome
22:01.07sb|workwah, highlighting
22:01.10WobWorkI see that my facebook homepage
22:01.16WobWorkis taking up 250M of memory
22:01.22Antiarc45 sec ICD?
22:01.26Fisker60
22:02.16AntiarcYou sure?
22:02.18Antiarc45 is standard?
22:02.25Megalon60s icd
22:02.35Megalonbut not everything obeys standards
22:02.37Megalonask microsoft
22:02.44Fiskeroh u Megalon
22:02.55Fiskerbut yeah elitist jerks says so
22:02.58Fiskerso it must be true
22:03.12Fiskerbtw how far is blessed? hoho
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22:04.12Megalonand we all know, information on ej is true by default
22:04.26Megalon"because everybody says it's that way"
22:04.27yoshimopoison swapper is broken, so more time for blessed ;)
22:04.28Antiarcblessed needs comms and buff assignment negotiation
22:04.32Antiarcsingle-player, it's about 100%
22:04.38AntiarcA few minor bugs to work out
22:04.45MegalonJUST NEGOTIATE WITH AN IRON FIST
22:04.49Megalonand you should be set
22:05.04Repo10libinternalcooldowns-1-0: 03Antiarc * r20 LibInternalCooldowns-1.0/Data.lua: Add ICC rep rings
22:06.06ShefkiAntiarc: They turn out to be 45 seconds?
22:06.25Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.6.15 * 2942a3c /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as 0.6.15
22:06.35AntiarcShefki: I have them at 45sec. If I can find hard data to indicate otherwise, I'll change 'em :)
22:06.38AntiarcLooking around for it now.
22:07.25StanzillaI'm pretty sure it's 60
22:08.08Antiarcbah, fine, I'll set it to 60 :P
22:08.37Stanzillawait till half the channel googled!
22:09.27Repo10libinternalcooldowns-1-0: 03Antiarc * r21 LibInternalCooldowns-1.0/Data.lua: Bump ICC rep rings to a 60-sec ICD
22:10.04ShefkiYou believe Stanzilla... lol
22:10.18AntiarcI googled around a bit, too
22:10.21AntiarcTankspot said they're 60
22:10.24AntiarcAnd that's okay enough
22:10.30AntiarcI'd prefer EJ data but didn't see any
22:10.38StanzillaShefki: meany!
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22:19.16sb|workAntiarc: spamming that blessed key stop have a smart-stop :o (dont rebuff if >90% buff duration left)
22:19.25sb|workerr stop=should
22:19.30GnarfozShadowedmen
22:19.34Gnarfozexplain: http://geektour.de/~smallbrain/wow/suf_cpu.jpg
22:19.40Antiarcsb|work: Yeah, I had that in at one point, but it was causing problems
22:19.45AntiarcThere were bugs, but it's on the want list
22:19.56onaforeignshoresb|work: or at least a configurable value if not 90%
22:19.57yoshimodoes the smartbutton work during combatlockdown?
22:20.09Gnarfozcan't, really ;p
22:20.14Repo10big-wigs: 03funkydude * r6990 Citadel (7 files in 2 directories):
22:20.16RepoCitadel/Rotface: Flash exactly on explode (after the cast - when you should move) lag excluded.
22:20.49onaforeignshoreGnarfoz: what addon is that?
22:20.56AntiarcNo, the smartbutton gets stuck on the last target once you enter combat
22:21.13Gnarfoz@project addon-profiler
22:21.16RepoGnarfoz: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/addon-profiler/. Addon Profiler. Game: WoW. Shadowed (Manager/Author). Updated: 128 days ago
22:21.17Gnarfozonaforeignshore: --^
22:21.18AntiarcI would like to just make the smart button not do anything in combat, probably, to prevent confusion
22:21.24onaforeignshoreGnarfoz: ty
22:21.56yoshimoso how do i rebuff targets which are resurrected during combat?
22:22.30Gnarfozyoshimo: PP? classbuttons. replacement #123 that's gonna fail to actually replace PP? no clue :>
22:22.46Antiarcyoshimo: click their class buffon, or ctrl-hover their class and click their character button
22:23.26Antiarchttp://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/09/lego-universe-trailer-looks-unexpectedly-thrilling
22:23.30AntiarcHow the balls is this so awesome?
22:23.38AntiarcIt's like every childhood fantasy ever brought to life
22:24.43nevcairielso we're going to play lego universe now, eh?
22:24.45Repo10dungeonspeedrunner: 03OrionShock 07master * v0.4-beta-8-g06a764d DungeonSpeedRunner.lua: [+2 commits]
22:24.47Repo06a764d: fix logic to act as intended with announcing
22:24.48Repoc8011b4: comment out hard debug
22:26.11CrazyBennyI wonder if there will be epic bricks
22:26.18AntiarcWell, you know it'll be moddable. It's lego. :V
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22:27.06asmodaiAntiarc: I wonder how it plays
22:27.24asmodaiAntiarc: I mean, I see on the fly building of stuff, but what does it meeeeeaaaan?
22:27.25AntiarcIt's geared towards kids, so I'm not sure it's quite what I'd want
22:27.39asmodaiLego Universe, 18+
22:27.39AntiarcBut man, a game like that with the flexibility I'd want would be amazing
22:27.42asmodai;)
22:27.52AntiarcI spent my childhood building spaceships and starfighters out of lego
22:28.00AntiarcBefore we had these pansy "star wars packs"
22:28.07AntiarcI built mine from the ground up with vanilla blocks.
22:29.26ShadowedGnarfoz: An API returned a number indicating how many milliseconds something took and then Addon Profiler showed it?
22:31.33orionshockShadowed, request for EG, can you add the score to the summary page when you zone in & it pops up?
22:31.47Shadowed... it already does that?
22:31.53ShadowedAnd it's not a score, it's an average
22:32.02orionshockdidn't see it... will look next time
22:32.49orionshockhehe, trying to stay away from the idea of an "ElitestGroupScore" ?
22:33.04ShadowedNo it's just not a score
22:34.29orionshockthe suggested dungeons has a score in that list, how is that supposed to be interpreted or used?
22:36.20asmodaiAntiarc: same here. Built transformers and anime bots from lego, quite nifty stuff. :)
22:36.39asmodaiAntiarc: If I had the bricks then we have now, in those colours as well. ..
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22:41.28ShadowedThat's a rement
22:41.49moophey, asked in here the other day but it was pretty late, so I guess not many people were here ^^ was wondering how I'd go about getting the time remaining on items that can be traded/vendored back for a refund, without tooltip scanning?
22:42.20Grum<Antiarc> Before we had these pansy "star wars packs" <-- i so agree, lego is not what it used to be before ... now you have all these curved pieces ... made for a single use ... :(
22:43.11moopso I could, for example, create a small timer that I can place in some discreet place to remind me when I'm running out of time to refund my trinket(s)... currently using different ones for different specs since I can't afford to buy both
22:44.11Pneumatusdoubt it can be done without tooltip scanning
22:44.21moopbah, figured
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22:48.39asmodaiLego is more like Playmobil nowadays.
22:48.50asmodaiToo big pieces that you can do nothing with...
22:50.07GnarfozShadowed: prooobably. why does SUF (which I use for player, target, tot only) use even more CPU than Grid? :<
22:50.34WobWorkI had SUF stick the raid frames right in the middle of the screen
22:50.41WobWorkand I couldn't unset them =(
22:51.14Shadowednot a clue
22:51.18Shadowedno reason it should be
22:51.55ShadowedDisembedded?
22:52.21Gnarfoznot disembedded
22:53.02Shadowedthats likely why
22:53.04Gnarfozbut it's not like SUF uses many libs.
22:53.47WobWorknor for me
22:53.58Gnarfozeverything it uses is loaded by another addon earlier
22:54.01Gnarfozso that's not it =)
22:54.05Shadowednevertheless
22:54.10Shadoweddisembed everything first
22:54.16Shadowedcause there really is no reason it should be using that much more
22:54.26Gnarfozesoterics :<
22:54.41Gnarfozit's using 5 libs?
22:55.17GnarfozI could just delete its copies to make sure other copies of them are loaded
22:55.46Gnarfoz(I'll probably not disembed my chaos of ~160 addons just for this :D)
22:56.09Grumdisembedding saves barely any time
22:56.29Gnarfozwhich is not the reason he's suggesting it, either
22:56.30Grumits in the realm of 0.5-1 seconds on a normal pc
22:56.48onaforeignshoredoes save on harddrive space and in my case lots of loading time, since I'm on a laptop and hard drive access is sloooooow...
22:56.54Grumhmm why would you disembed otherwise?
22:57.06Gnarfozalso, during BC times, it was about an 20s improvement for me, and this is a pretty "above normal" pc
22:57.22ShadowedDuring TBC libraries would generally embed the libraries into the TOC file
22:57.30Shadowedand disembedded didn't strip the calls
22:57.33Grummmm on a fresh load it saves a bit of time true
22:57.33Gnarfozpfff embeds.xml
22:57.38Gnarfozthat was around even then.
22:58.06ShadowedIt was around, but it wasn't really used
22:58.18GnarfozI doubt the speed difference between fresh loads and reloads is from addons,  :P
22:58.20Shadowedtill people realized that files missing in the TOC killed performance
22:58.28Shadoweds/performance/load time/
22:59.03GrumGnarfoz: mmm it actually is, i just did tests and i forgot that i strated my wow, when i looked a the file access times the second time (because the filemonitor crashed ><) it was all loaded in under 0.4 seconds
22:59.22Grum(including saved vars .. but i was kinda sure it was way longer when it didnt crash :D)
22:59.34GnarfozGrum: don't you think that maybe, just maybe, loading, decoding, decompressing etc. tons of models and textures takes more time on initial load?
22:59.42Grumyes that as well
23:00.04Gnarfozand of course, addons take a tiny bit longer, too, because of .toc parsing which only happens then
23:00.12Grumreading/writing saved vars after the first load is really insignificant compared to the mpq file-reads
23:00.42Gnarfozanyway, it's not like SUF is getting blamed for all CBH or even all LibStub calls, so I doubt disembedding *everything* (makes no sense, disembedding SUFs libraries, if at all, should be enough) will change the numbers
23:01.04ShadowedI don't really care how you do it, just double check that it's not libraries :p
23:01.26Gnarfozlibraries need a "oh btw, I'm the copy from addon XYZ" functionality
23:01.40Gnarfoz(that should be easily doable via path, right?)
23:02.21ShadowedYou could do it now with the namespace stuff
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23:08.09asmodaiI wonder if Cataclysm will rid us of Dreadmist Peak in the Barrens, the Burning Blade brotherhood, the Defias Brotherhood and a bunch of those long-time past outplayed quests/storylines
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23:09.55asmodaiSo much stuff as well that they only touched upon and never revisited. :S
23:10.12StanzillaAntiarc: could you no-lib-strip the libs in embeds.xml in sexycd pretty please? :)
23:10.20AntiarcSure
23:10.20yoshimoazshara could need more love asmodai
23:12.15AntiarcJust wrapping the embeds.xml in the TOC works, yes?
23:12.48Repo10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v0.15-beta-9-gf238c38 / (5 files in 3 directories): [+4 commits]
23:12.49Repof238c38: Changed coloring of suggested dungeons so it's relative to the players average item level
23:12.50Repodf8694c: Party summary now shows the party members assigned role where level used to be
23:12.52Repob2468c5: Added a red "[!]" next to enchant/gem info tooltip for specific items if something is wrong with them
23:12.53Repo34719ce: Reflagged Revitalizing Skyflare Diamond as allowed for Discipline Priests, but bad for everyone else
23:13.20Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.6.16 * 59e3088 /: [new tag, +1 commits] Tagging as 0.6.16
23:13.41asmodaiyoshimo: Heh, Azshara, always loved that place
23:13.47asmodaiyoshimo: Devoid of basically anything.
23:14.09yoshimothere are a few questlines, that end suddenly
23:14.11asmodaiI must admit, wotlk did a fantastic job at storytelling.
23:14.34asmodaiBorean Tundra's DEHTA left aside.
23:15.05yoshimoi still think it was funny ;) nersingwary payback
23:15.35CrazyBennydragonblight was just awesome in that
23:16.24asmodaiDragonblight rocked.
23:16.39asmodaiAlso the dwarf stuff from the east side of Northrend was pretty cool
23:16.47asmodaiyoshimo: didnt like it at all to be honest
23:16.57asmodaiBorean Tundra felt disconnected and disorganized.
23:17.01yoshimowell, you cant like all they do
23:17.23Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 07master * v0.6.17 / (6 files in 3 directories): [+3 commits]
23:17.25Repo909543b: Re-merge zhCN/TW localization changes in TOC
23:17.26Repoaa87335: Wrap embeds in no-lib-strip
23:17.27AntiarcBorean Tundra is the worth Wrath zone, IMO
23:17.30Repof9b58e2: Fix lib issue, add mortal strike class to raid debuffs event tape
23:17.38AntiarcIt's just not very compelling at all.
23:17.38Repo10sexycooldown: 03Antiarc 04v0.6.17 * bdd82fa /: [new tag] Tagging as 0.6.17
23:17.57CrazyBennyyeah, indeed
23:18.49asmodaiI am one of those whiners that still finds most of Goblin and Gnomish inventions to be too disconnected from the rest of the game.
23:19.07asmodaiI guess that's another reason Borean Tundra fails for me with that large gnome section with robots and whatnot.
23:19.50Fiskermeh
23:20.04FiskerExcept from the first few quests in Howling Fjord i hate that damn zone
23:20.12StanzillaAntiarc: thanks :)
23:20.29arkanesfjord is much nicer now that you can get a flier for it
23:20.38arkanesfinding paths up and down the cliffs and stuff was irritating
23:21.14CrazyBennyarkanes: if you followed quests, you didnt have to bother with it :)
23:21.55asmodaiMmm, did they ever expand on the presence of most of the Silithids? Or was that all done and fully explained in Ahn'Qiraj? (I never followed the entire storyline there, missed out on most of the effort, et cetera)
23:22.08onaforeignshorewhat did you think of the atlantean quests in Scholozar Basin?
23:22.14arkanesthey're the predecessors of the nerubians
23:22.30WobWorksounds as if it should
23:22.42CrazyBennyit was explained in the questline to ring the gong
23:23.13CrazyBennybest questlien ever so far I think
23:23.20yoshimoi really would like to be scarab lady, even if it involved months opf work... :)
23:24.36Gnarfozcan't be anymore, ;o
23:24.48WobWorkexcept on new servers?
23:24.52Gnarfoznot even on them
23:24.54Gnarfozthey start with gates open
23:24.56WobWorkreally? =(
23:24.59Gnarfozyep
23:25.00CrazyBennyyup
23:25.09CrazyBennyits fair enough
23:25.11WobWorkdamn that catering to casuals =P
23:25.34Gnarfozright, finally the casuals can experience level 60 raid content!
23:25.35Gnarfoz:D
23:25.44arkanesmaybe they'll mess the quest up again with cat
23:25.48arkanesand you'll get a shot at it
23:26.53Gnarfozheh
23:26.58Gnarfozwhoops gates closed again
23:28.07asmodaieh
23:28.20asmodaiI wonder how much of the world we now know changes
23:29.45Gnarfozsee maps from blizzcon :O
23:31.28Repo10big-wigs: 03mojosdojo * r6991 Citadel (2 files in 2 directories): Festergut: Fix Vile Gas spam.
23:31.50asmodaiGnarfoz: Oh I saw
23:32.00asmodaiGnarfoz: I meant more in quest lines, areas with background.
23:32.08asmodaiIf poor old Blanchy hasn't died by now...
23:32.11yoshimognarfoz, a big earthquake , and then the doors are closed again ;)
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23:43.26StanzillaAntiarc: you don't embed but try to load LibDBIcon and LDB in sexycd btw :p
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23:43.36RepoThanks to Neloter - Elune
23:43.36Antiarcbah
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