| 00:01.57 | yoshimo | haste, doesnt the game need to deal with multiple buffs and owners anyway`? |
| 00:02.37 | orionshock-droid | Koaschten no |
| 00:03.42 | haste | yoshimo: still doesn't mean it has to dump the information to the combat log in a way that follows the rest of the API |
| 00:05.31 | nevcairiel | the problem is always: Does the client know? If you can answer that with "no", they would need to extent the client-server protocol, and thats always something they want to avoid, just for a minor combatlog detail |
| 00:05.51 | nevcairiel | they usually tell us everything the client knows (and relevant to us) |
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| 00:28.59 | yoshimo | which side decides if its shown in the cl or not, server or client, who has the logic? |
| 00:33.07 | Silowyi | So I have an idea |
| 00:33.08 | Silowyi | called |
| 00:33.18 | Silowyi | PlayYourClass addon |
| 00:34.01 | Silowyi | basically what it does if you right click someone in your party and choose "L2Play" from the menu, it sends them a tell giving them the 30 sec summary on how to do more than 1k DPS :P |
| 00:34.44 | Silowyi | Since all the information for all classes is available from sources like EJ, it shouldn't be that hard to compile it into easy to read snippets with the goal of just getting people to do more than 1-2k DPS in a random heroic. |
| 00:35.23 | Pneumatus | hahaha just saw NameScore, that addon is totally more accurate than GearScore |
| 00:35.32 | Silowyi | Like the 0/0/71 DK I saw who was spamming obliterate and blood boil without using his diseases... cause he figured he should always just use his largest DPS ability, and something to burn red runes. |
| 00:39.42 | yoshimo | pneumatus, i hope all those names with "imba" "lol" "shadow" "roxxor" and so on have a very low ranking there :P |
| 00:39.48 | Pneumatus | yes |
| 00:39.54 | Pneumatus | and stupid foreign characters in names |
| 00:40.08 | Pneumatus | although on non-english servers they are probably acceptible |
| 00:40.24 | yoshimo | french especially ;) |
| 00:40.38 | Pneumatus | basically, i can review how people will perform in a random pug based on two things |
| 00:40.51 | Pneumatus | a) do they have a retarded name (especially with accents in it) |
| 00:41.00 | Pneumatus | and b) are they from Earthen Ring |
| 00:41.13 | Pneumatus | if either, or god forbid, both |
| 00:41.18 | Pneumatus | they will fail |
| 00:42.22 | theoddone33 | I haven't been in a single pug that's failed |
| 00:42.32 | theoddone33 | through dungeon queuer |
| 00:42.41 | Pneumatus | i dont mean the pug will fail, i mean that char will fail |
| 00:42.52 | Pneumatus | usually the one sat with less dps than the tank, etc |
| 00:42.54 | theoddone33 | ahh |
| 00:43.15 | theoddone33 | I usually do 50-60% of the damage on bosses in pugs anyway so I don't notice |
| 00:43.32 | Gnarfoz | orionshock-droid, koaschten: but you can still silence it, at least |
| 00:43.45 | Pneumatus | unless of course the tank is Omgróx from Earthen Ring, in which case i'd probably just votekick :) |
| 00:44.02 | Pneumatus | except names like that dont tend to come from ER because they are anal RPers and get all antsy about that kind of thing |
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| 00:58.59 | Silowyi | NameScore doesn't seem to hit a lot of names |
| 00:59.10 | Silowyi | for example it gives Moofnire (balance druid) an A- |
| 00:59.28 | Silowyi | and Crazyforms also druid, got a 100.0 A+ ^_^ |
| 00:59.34 | Silowyi | needs work |
| 01:03.08 | Silowyi | or maybe it just likes druids |
| 01:03.30 | SunTsu | Silowyi: I would rate Moofnire A-, too, if it is an tauren |
| 01:03.35 | SunTsu | s/an/a/ |
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| 01:04.00 | Silowyi | I thought it was pretty clever tbh |
| 01:04.28 | SunTsu | only as a tauren, because of the "Moo" in it |
| 01:04.39 | Silowyi | he was a tauren |
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| 01:25.58 | Pneumatus | hmm, apparently i was the 5th person in the world to get loremaster :o |
| 01:27.37 | Megalon | so you are the 4th person in the world who got it, but got absolutely no attetion for achieveing it |
| 01:27.56 | Pneumatus | the first person got attention? :o |
| 01:28.16 | Shefki | Pneumatus: How'd you figure that out? |
| 01:29.13 | Megalon | the first always gets attention |
| 01:29.13 | Pneumatus | http://wowchievements.com/achievement/1681/ |
| 01:29.20 | Megalon | not always positive attention though |
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| 01:31.16 | Pneumatus | wow-achievements.com is wrong, as it says the first was on the 23rd :o |
| 01:31.17 | steev | meh |
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| 01:31.32 | steev | can't find my character on the armory :-P |
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| 01:41.34 | Shadowed | huh? |
| 01:42.06 | Shadowed | He really isn't going to be able to mimic EG |
| 01:42.16 | Shadowed | he's not really smart enough to do things like save gems or enchants due to how they work |
| 01:48.16 | Groktar | sigh people without authenticators getting hacked |
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| 01:49.52 | Shadowed | asmodai: Where do you see the Pawn hookins? I didn't see anythig like that |
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| 01:53.56 | steev | bleh |
| 01:54.03 | steev | the wowhead database needs to be cleaned up |
| 01:54.48 | steev | alternately, good luck getting to any spawn points that are under the tents at the argent tournaments for mining |
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| 02:32.10 | fewyn | anyone know of an addon that tracks instance lockouts so i can monitor my [21:30:50] You have entered too many instances recently. |
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| 02:45.27 | orionshock-droid | Fewyn |
| 02:45.44 | fewyn | orionshock-droid |
| 02:46.03 | orionshock-droid | @describe savedinstances |
| 02:46.05 | Repo | orionshock-droid: No project found that matches 'savedinstances' |
| 02:46.26 | orionshock-droid | ... no underscore on phn |
| 02:46.48 | orionshock-droid | @describe saved_instances |
| 02:46.50 | Repo | orionshock-droid: http://www.wowace.com/addons/saved_instances/. SavedInstances. Keeps track of the raid IDs saved against your characters. |
| 02:47.00 | fewyn | that doesn't do what i need though i think? i'm powerleveling RAF accounts |
| 02:47.01 | orionshock-droid | There it is :) |
| 02:47.35 | fewyn | like RFC/SFK/SM/BRD |
| 02:49.00 | fewyn | found an addon but sadly it seems to be broken |
| 02:50.52 | orionshock-droid | Oh the too many an hour msg, no addon I know of tracks that |
| 03:00.44 | Shadowed | .... |
| 03:00.58 | Shadowed | GS manages to use 900 milliseconds of CPU when mousing over inspect items |
| 03:00.59 | Shadowed | :| |
| 03:02.29 | Ingela | i don't know if something is fucked up with my addon settings or something but when i enabled gs that one time i got -20fps |
| 03:02.45 | Ingela | after taht, never again! lol |
| 03:03.03 | BWMerlin | Ingela: and Shadowed have you two tried GS lite? |
| 03:03.11 | Ingela | nope :O |
| 03:03.21 | Gagorian | Well determining how good the player is is very CPU intensive business |
| 03:03.24 | BWMerlin | it should do away with the database side of things and i would assume use less resources because of it |
| 03:03.30 | Shadowed | clearly Gagorian |
| 03:03.41 | BWMerlin | I use GS lite because i dont need the database |
| 03:03.42 | Shadowed | multiplication is a very resource intensive task |
| 03:03.53 | Gagorian | But it uses magic as well |
| 03:04.03 | Shadowed | I wish my code used magic |
| 03:04.06 | Ingela | BWMerlin, thanks i'll try that maybe |
| 03:04.06 | Gagorian | That's very cpu intensive |
| 03:04.06 | Ingela | =) |
| 03:04.18 | Ingela | so what GS do you all have |
| 03:04.25 | Ingela | so i can know you good you are |
| 03:04.26 | Shadowed | I'm not even using GS |
| 03:04.30 | Shadowed | just trying to figure out if I can yell at the GS author |
| 03:04.32 | BWMerlin | well clearly the magic is broken because it doesnt give my a high enough GS for scrubs to take me as tanks |
| 03:04.49 | Ingela | i have 5900gs |
| 03:04.52 | Ingela | \o/ |
| 03:04.57 | BWMerlin | T_T |
| 03:05.10 | Ingela | clearly means i'm pro |
| 03:05.12 | BWMerlin | im only 4.7 or something |
| 03:05.37 | BWMerlin | i have thought about the possibility of editing GS so that all my toons would have at least a 5k gs |
| 03:06.03 | BWMerlin | but then i released that i have no idea how to do that and i would have to cry and the stupid ppl on wow who dont take me |
| 03:07.28 | BWMerlin | btw http://www.gearscoreaddon.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?fid=2 is where you can yell at the GS author and tell him how he us ruined wow for everyone |
| 03:11.00 | Gagorian | I presume a GS spoofer would be rather easy to make |
| 03:11.09 | BWMerlin | yeah |
| 03:11.28 | BWMerlin | i think the easiest way would be to insert you toons name and realm into the addon itself |
| 03:11.48 | BWMerlin | or use the GS data channel or what ever its called and send your GS into that |
| 03:12.23 | BWMerlin | actually im surprised that no one has done that |
| 03:12.35 | BWMerlin | i can understand that poisoning the database might be easy |
| 03:12.48 | BWMerlin | but idk how you would get around someone mousing over and inspecting you |
| 03:12.58 | BWMerlin | as i would imagine that is done locally |
| 03:13.51 | Gagorian | But it would still kill the use of GS, which would be the intent of said addon |
| 03:15.42 | Gagorian | Actually I've never used it so I wouldn't know |
| 03:15.43 | Gagorian | :p |
| 03:15.44 | BWMerlin | seems someone has already done it |
| 03:15.46 | BWMerlin | http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f56/59572-gearscore-breaker.html |
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| 03:27.07 | arkanes | GS only accepts data from guildmates |
| 03:27.15 | arkanes | so you can't really poison everyones database |
| 03:31.01 | BWMerlin | maybe |
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| 03:31.49 | BWMerlin | but if people werent such retards and ask stupid things like 5k gs for totc10 then many ppl would be happy |
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| 03:32.35 | Ingela | what else do you suggests BWMerlin to find out if a random is good or bad? |
| 03:33.33 | BWMerlin | see that is the trap right there |
| 03:33.40 | BWMerlin | GS does not make you good or bad |
| 03:33.47 | Ingela | nope |
| 03:33.47 | BWMerlin | its just a score based on gear |
| 03:33.51 | Ingela | exactly |
| 03:34.11 | Ingela | but if you take 2 shitty players one with good gear with gs over 9000 and one with bad gear gs score 153 |
| 03:34.22 | Ingela | who will do most dps? most healing? best tanking? |
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| 03:34.35 | BWMerlin | the player with the most skill |
| 03:34.55 | Ingela | but you don't know their skill |
| 03:34.59 | Ingela | other then "shitty" :P |
| 03:35.00 | BWMerlin | my shaman has a 4700GS but none of his new gear is enchanted or gemmed and so ppl with lower gs outdps him |
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| 03:35.28 | BWMerlin | alternativly my warrior tank has a 4.8gs and out dps's some dps |
| 03:35.45 | BWMerlin | so GS clearly doesnt work in both cases |
| 03:35.50 | Ingela | yeah well i don't know why gs isn't counting gems and shit, that's just stupid |
| 03:36.14 | BWMerlin | from reading i think the newer version is going to do something about that |
| 03:36.24 | Ingela | but generally, the best way to find people who are likely to be better is people with high gs, sad but true |
| 03:36.27 | Ingela | that's what i think at elast |
| 03:36.29 | Ingela | sy örsdy |
| 03:36.35 | Ingela | ops |
| 03:36.36 | Ingela | at least* |
| 03:44.47 | BWMerlin | while i think GS has its purpose I think ppl are the problem |
| 03:45.09 | BWMerlin | they do want the cream of the crop and for me I am finding it hard/impossible to get a raid tank spot |
| 03:45.37 | BWMerlin | I want to get into ICC and TOTC but they (the people forming the raids) seem to keep raising the bar faster then I can get gear |
| 03:46.07 | Ingela | that's very true, i don't know exactly about gearscores but people want you to have better gear then the instnace to be able to join it |
| 03:46.09 | BWMerlin | atm there is 2 items that I consider upgrades from icc5 but beyond that I do need raids |
| 03:46.10 | Ingela | which makesn it so stupid |
| 03:46.48 | BWMerlin | the original intention i could see was to say hey this person has what i would consider the min to do this raid they should be ok |
| 03:47.23 | BWMerlin | but now its become the higher the better, dont care that you could pull your weight on you are an experienced player just want you to have a massive GS |
| 03:48.01 | Ingela | i think i have 5300gs on my dk tank, but only 38k hp unbuffed |
| 03:48.06 | Ingela | i dont' have any professions =( |
| 03:57.14 | BWMerlin | someone here may have the answer to this |
| 03:57.25 | BWMerlin | i miss my old ora2 tank frames and i want them back |
| 03:58.09 | Ingela | http://www.wowace.com/addons/wtf/ |
| 03:58.09 | BWMerlin | how can I in pittbull4 make a frame what will shower the person/people who are maintanks and their targets as well as the person who is assigned tank in dungeons? |
| 03:58.49 | Ingela | check that out otherwise BWMerlin |
| 03:59.05 | BWMerlin | thanks Ingela might just be what i am after |
| 03:59.16 | BWMerlin | do you know if it work in dungeons to? |
| 03:59.23 | Ingela | never tried it myself |
| 03:59.24 | Ingela | so no =( |
| 04:01.05 | BWMerlin | seems it requires oUF |
| 04:01.12 | BWMerlin | was hopping to not install another addon |
| 04:01.16 | BWMerlin | i have far to many as it is |
| 04:01.42 | Ingela | "This addon is based on (embedded) oUF!" |
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| 04:11.03 | Ingela | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.03 | Ingela | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.03 | Ingela | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.04 | Ingela | lol |
| 04:35.08 | orionshock-droid | ?? |
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| 04:47.03 | quiescens | re: <Ingela> but generally, the best way to find people who are likely to be better is people with high gs, sad but true |
| 04:47.16 | quiescens | I find people that have their stuff enchanted and gemmed is a good sign |
| 04:47.33 | quiescens | more reliable than their gear itself being good |
| 04:47.35 | quiescens | lol |
| 04:47.43 | Ingela | haha maybe |
| 04:48.02 | quiescens | obviously, ideally, well geared people that also have things enchanted and gemmed well |
| 04:48.56 | quiescens | but low end gear, enchanted and gemmed, seems to be a better omen than someone with high end gear and no enchants/gems |
| 04:53.09 | steev | bleh wtf |
| 04:53.18 | steev | threat issues on festergut tonight |
| 04:53.26 | quiescens | feign death |
| 04:53.37 | steev | no |
| 04:54.15 | steev | omen and tot are showing one tank having a solid lead in threat (after the taunt) - grid aggro thingie (dunno i don't use it) is showing the other tank still having aggro - and then 2 seconds later, the first tank gains aggro back and is dead |
| 04:55.02 | steev | hooray, im tanking now |
| 04:55.05 | Kuosi | how high is your threat update latenly |
| 04:55.18 | Kuosi | latency even |
| 04:56.05 | steev | dunno? |
| 04:56.05 | Kuosi | afaik gridst default setting is kinda lazy when it comes to aggro updates |
| 04:56.52 | Kuosi | increase the update frequency |
| 04:57.18 | Kuosi | if there's still something wrong with it |
| 04:57.29 | Kuosi | then it's about the banzai library |
| 04:59.11 | steev | i can't update it - its the mage/resto druid |
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| 05:24.35 | steev | blergh |
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| 05:35.13 | steev | will be uploading the longs |
| 05:39.38 | steev | i hate having to switch to tanking for a boss |
| 05:40.47 | Groktar | heh |
| 05:40.58 | Groktar | i messed up quickauctions for uncut gems |
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| 05:41.09 | steev | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/dckho8mmcexext1p/ |
| 05:41.09 | Groktar | and it put up 5 eyes of zul for 30g |
| 05:41.10 | Groktar | :( |
| 05:41.14 | steev | ouch |
| 05:41.28 | Groktar | yeah |
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| 05:46.07 | ulic | so anyone running the bejeweled addon? Just wondering what other high scores are in timed games. |
| 05:57.05 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro * r248 version: GatherMate_Data: Weekly update |
| 05:57.12 | Repo | 10gathermate_data: 03kagaro 04v1.82 * r249 : GatherMate_Data: weekly update |
| 05:58.14 | steev | i haven't in a long time ulic |
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| 06:03.20 | ulic | well I've had the high score for a while, few weeks back set a new one with 532.09, thought that was pretty good, tonight I got 686.15! Sick. |
| 06:04.38 | steev | nice! |
| 06:12.40 | steev | hooray toc25 |
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| 06:40.22 | Repo | 10all-played-laotseu: 03LaoTseu * r204 / (2 files in 1 directory): AllPlayed: |
| 06:40.25 | Repo | - Make L private to prevent AllPlayed from polluting (and being polluted) by other addons. That was a very dum mistake of my part. |
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| 07:00.50 | steev | wow... |
| 07:00.57 | steev | we haven't downed the first boss in there yet |
| 07:03.12 | Shadowed | nevcairiel: ping |
| 07:09.29 | Shadowed | nevermind I r smat |
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| 07:47.30 | steev | skada doesn't have an interrupts module? :( |
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| 08:24.37 | Xinhuan | err anyone knows if games downloaded from steam can be installed in a different directory that isn't on my C: ? |
| 08:25.02 | Xinhuan | like i mean, if i reformat C:, i don't really want to redownload every game |
| 08:26.22 | Azurewrath | you can just copy/backup the steam folder |
| 08:28.02 | nevcairiel | yeah i just have the full steam folder on another drive .. all games sit in there |
| 08:28.44 | Xinhuan | so you install steam to a different disk in teh first place? |
| 08:28.54 | nevcairiel | you can just move it afterwards if you want |
| 08:28.56 | Xinhuan | i didn't realize you are forced to have the games in the same place as the steam installation |
| 08:29.30 | Xinhuan | i suppose i could use NTFS junctions hmmm |
| 08:29.46 | nevcairiel | you can just move it, no problem :P |
| 08:30.36 | Xinhuan | you mean, just move C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam |
| 08:30.40 | Xinhuan | and then run it from the new location? |
| 08:30.49 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 08:31.03 | nevcairiel | might require one start as adminstrator to fix its reg keys or something |
| 08:31.06 | nevcairiel | but then it works |
| 08:31.26 | nevcairiel | i havent had to reinstall steam for years |
| 08:31.27 | Xinhuan | https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7418-YUBN-8129 |
| 08:31.31 | Xinhuan | this seems to be the steam method lol |
| 08:31.33 | nevcairiel | and i reinstalled windows in the time |
| 08:31.42 | Xinhuan | or at least, what they recommend |
| 08:31.52 | Repo | 10sick-of-clicking-dailies: 03OrionShock 07master * v6.3.5-release-11-g7083b63 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+3 commits] |
| 08:31.54 | Repo | 7083b63: locale bump |
| 08:31.55 | Repo | 6e78225: fix repo replacements to use git instead of svn methods |
| 08:31.56 | Repo | f3be83a: don't put headers into quest log cache |
| 08:32.13 | nevcairiel | that works too, steamapps is all the game data :d |
| 08:32.29 | Xinhuan | from what i see, that means i would only need to reinstall steam on any OS i use |
| 08:32.34 | Xinhuan | and just backup steamapps folder |
| 08:32.46 | Xinhuan | is that right? |
| 08:32.58 | Xinhuan | i have quite a few disks i can boot from |
| 08:33.04 | nevcairiel | yes, it detects the steamapps just fine |
| 08:41.25 | steev | .4% wipe on anub 25 pug |
| 08:41.48 | arkanes | `heh |
| 08:41.54 | arkanes | we were just doing a togc pug |
| 08:41.59 | arkanes | wiped at 1600 health |
| 08:42.32 | Repo | 10magic-targets: 03dhedbor * r94 / (5 files in 2 directories): |
| 08:42.34 | Repo | [*]Added ability to filter out tanks and healers the not-targeted-by list in the mouse over tooltip. |
| 08:42.35 | Repo | [*]Added talent scanning and the new 5 man group role api for finding tanks. |
| 08:43.36 | steev | lulz |
| 08:43.46 | steev | i was #1 dps on that attempt too |
| 08:43.59 | steev | lulz cuz its an alt thats wearing 232/200 stuff |
| 08:45.13 | Repo | 10magic-targets: 03dhedbor * r95 embeds.xml: [*]Fixed LibGroupTalents reference. |
| 08:46.14 | KriLL3 | lol, just snuck through ToTC 10, first time I did it, stood in dala in my 245/232/ 1x200 & 219 tanking gear, get wisp "tank?" "yes" *invites* *summoned to ToTC |
| 08:46.27 | KriLL3 | just looked up the encounters quickly on wowwiki |
| 08:46.32 | KriLL3 | went without a hitch |
| 08:54.49 | steev | nice |
| 08:56.38 | orionshock | grr.. not even bazooka treats text/label/value in a sane way |
| 08:57.58 | asmodai | orionshock: mmm? |
| 08:58.38 | orionshock | IMHO, text & Label/Value are mutually exclusive. It just makes sense. |
| 08:59.04 | asmodai | yeah, I guess so |
| 08:59.23 | orionshock | but people don't use things as such |
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| 08:59.39 | orionshock | they use label with out value, and treat it like text |
| 09:00.01 | orionshock | bazooka uses label and text as a pair, when they should not be |
| 09:01.01 | orionshock | one of the origional points of using label/value/suffix trio was created so that the OCD people that need more screen space could show just numbers and no labels/suffix of any kind on LDB feeds that are well known. |
| 09:01.44 | orionshock | but you should use text if there is more than one label-value pair & your addon should provide the options to hide/show stuff. |
| 09:03.55 | orionshock | just LDB is sometimes very irritating that tekkub didn't make extraordinarily clear instructions in the specs. |
| 09:05.07 | Torhal | orionshock: For Volumizer, as an example: label = "Volumizer", text = "100%" |
| 09:05.23 | Torhal | The label is "What IS this icon". Text is "What is the data" |
| 09:05.51 | Torhal | If you don't provide a label, the display is supposed to use the AddOn's name. |
| 09:05.52 | orionshock | Torhal, no, label would be "Volumizer" and VALUE would be 100% |
| 09:06.04 | Torhal | That's what i just said |
| 09:06.06 | orionshock | using text dosn't make sense |
| 09:06.14 | Torhal | Value was tacked on later |
| 09:06.34 | orionshock | eh, label/value/suffix where all purposed at about the same time |
| 09:06.45 | Torhal | They were tacked on after label/text |
| 09:06.53 | Torhal | For SBC, if I remember correctly |
| 09:07.20 | orionshock | well, none of them do any of it correctly or even in a consistent way. |
| 09:07.36 | Torhal | The only ones I've seen to be guaranteed are text/label |
| 09:07.52 | Torhal | Label should be supported implicitly by the display. Text is required for a data source |
| 09:08.08 | orionshock | well, we all have opinions... |
| 09:08.19 | Torhal | I'm just saying what's in the spec |
| 09:09.12 | Torhal | If you set a value of 75 and a text of "FPS", the display should show "75 FPS" if both are enabled. |
| 09:09.18 | Repo | 10inline-aura: 03Adirelle * r95 Localization.lua: Prevent the localization debug statement to annoy me. |
| 09:09.19 | Torhal | But only text and label are guaranteed. |
| 09:09.30 | asmodai | Shadowed: still around? |
| 09:09.33 | Torhal | I never use anything else because of this |
| 09:09.38 | Shadowed | asmodai bit busy but what? |
| 09:09.44 | asmodai | Shadowed: pawn hookins |
| 09:09.47 | Shadowed | oh |
| 09:09.52 | asmodai | Shadowed: You honestly didn't see them? |
| 09:09.52 | Shadowed | yea |
| 09:10.01 | Shadowed | nope |
| 09:10.06 | asmodai | Want a screenie? |
| 09:10.07 | Shadowed | are they in core GS? |
| 09:10.31 | asmodai | I think so, I don't have anything else related to GS installed |
| 09:10.35 | asmodai | version 3.1.13 |
| 09:11.10 | Shadowed | Interesting I don't see any references to Pawn |
| 09:12.01 | Shadowed | And I don't see any GS hookins in Pawn |
| 09:12.02 | Shadowed | how odd |
| 09:12.47 | asmodai | Making screenies now |
| 09:14.13 | orionshock | Torhal, the whole thing is so F'ed im tempted to just make an LDB-2 and enforce spec requirements |
| 09:14.35 | Torhal | I'm happy with sticking to label and text. I've never had an issue. |
| 09:14.45 | Shadowed | You realize that you'd have to actually get people to write plugins and displays for 2 |
| 09:14.45 | Torhal | The other stuff just seems like fluff |
| 09:14.49 | Shadowed | and then actually move to it |
| 09:14.57 | nevcairiel | and people won't do that =P |
| 09:14.59 | Shadowed | And really, nobody is going to do that if all you can offer are "enforced spec requirements" |
| 09:15.09 | Shadowed | really nobody would move to it unless it offered money or something |
| 09:15.19 | nevcairiel | I don't see the problem with LDB anyway |
| 09:15.32 | orionshock | well most are crazy, so trying to bring sanity to them is someone a lost caus |
| 09:15.33 | nevcairiel | so people write broken plugins, its their problem |
| 09:15.36 | orionshock | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:16.04 | Torhal | That's like saying Blizzard should restrict table creation because some dumb fucks do it OnUpdate |
| 09:17.08 | orionshock | nevcairiel, broken plugins are not really a problem, it's the broken displays. wouldn't be much of an issue if they where all at least consistent about how they treat each element. |
| 09:17.54 | asmodai | rofl |
| 09:18.04 | asmodai | I totally fucked it up by pressing alt-z to hide the UI for a second |
| 09:18.05 | Torhal | So bitch at the dis[lay author |
| 09:18.11 | Torhal | display* |
| 09:19.03 | Shadowed | yea |
| 09:19.12 | orionshock | yeah, another lost cause |
| 09:19.25 | Torhal | So write your own? :) |
| 09:19.44 | orionshock | hehe, tempting |
| 09:19.47 | Torhal | And honestly, mitch0 has been rather good about suggestions. |
| 09:20.01 | Torhal | And he's usually on-channel |
| 09:21.57 | asmodai | Shadowed: first screen: own? :) |
| 09:21.59 | asmodai | grrr |
| 09:22.01 | asmodai | http://www.in-nomine.org/~asmodai/mainscreen.png |
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| 09:22.50 | asmodai | Duh |
| 09:22.54 | asmodai | Shadowed: Nevermind btw |
| 09:22.57 | asmodai | was blind |
| 09:23.08 | Shadowed | oh |
| 09:23.11 | Shadowed | you mean the thing on the left? |
| 09:23.11 | asmodai | It just happens to have the exact same names as the weight scales I configured >_< |
| 09:23.16 | Shadowed | ahhh |
| 09:23.20 | Shadowed | yea that's BonusScanner |
| 09:23.33 | asmodai | It does fuck up when it assigns an item a gs of 0 |
| 09:24.08 | Torhal | asmodai: Titan user? |
| 09:24.11 | asmodai | Nope |
| 09:24.18 | asmodai | I use fortress with ldb addons |
| 09:24.42 | asmodai | I need to spar a bit with the fortress author why all these ldb addons keep reassigning positions |
| 09:24.46 | asmodai | even when locked down |
| 09:25.22 | asmodai | Shadowed: weird thing is, after that alt-z, those 4 scores in the main gs window all showed 100% |
| 09:25.36 | asmodai | Shadowed: and all items it assigned a score to now show as 0 and are sort of blackish in the tooltip |
| 09:25.42 | asmodai | Shadowed: He does some odd programming I think |
| 09:25.53 | Shadowed | hahahah |
| 09:25.55 | Shadowed | understatement |
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| 09:26.08 | Shadowed | It does some super wacky stuff, like when you mouseover an item it'll spam rescan the item in an OnUpdate |
| 09:27.53 | asmodai | So addonspamfu has this timer that shows how long it is running. I alt tab from WoW to Windows 7's desktop. Tab back after a bit, and I see that timer increase rapidly to catch up. Pretty interesting behaviour. Windows XP, at least from what I remember, kept that going. |
| 09:29.54 | yoshimo | it uses schedulerepeatingevent and increases the "i have been running " variable each second, which as far as i know fails because onupdate doesnt happen that often if you tab out |
| 09:29.57 | asmodai | I guess it's holding back on quanta to the game or something. |
| 09:30.33 | asmodai | yoshimo: But XP seemed to have it less though. I can understand why they would do it like this in 7 (Vista too?) |
| 09:31.21 | orionshock | @project bazooka |
| 09:31.24 | Repo | orionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/bazooka/. Bazooka. Game: WoW. mitch0 (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 hours ago |
| 09:31.42 | yoshimo | im running vista and i have seen this crazy runtimer often ;) |
| 09:32.20 | asmodai | yoshimo: Must be a vista+ thing then :) |
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| 09:33.15 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r86 Core.lua: |
| 09:33.17 | Repo | Have the test mode actually bypasses muting conditions in packaged versions. |
| 09:33.21 | yoshimo | i still think using ace's schedulerepeating event (1sec) isnt a good idea |
| 09:34.05 | asmodai | Mmm, maybe I should give Bazooka a go, although I like the block approach of Fortress. |
| 09:34.43 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r87 modules/Sink_Whisper.lua: |
| 09:34.45 | Repo | Whisper: using "YOU" instead of the actual target name is now optional, and enabled by default. |
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| 09:37.51 | orionshock | not to beat the dead horse, but as a sanity check for me. |
| 09:38.09 | orionshock | have (.text) and (.label / .value / .suffix) be mutually exclusive. Either show the .text or a user selected combo of .label / .value / .suffix -- anyone think this is insane? |
| 09:38.26 | orionshock | i'll post tickets to the major displays see what kind of response happens. |
| 09:43.29 | Xinhuan | sounds like something that will just get ignored |
| 09:43.56 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 09:44.16 | orionshock | figured... |
| 09:45.22 | orionshock | the status quo of functional but inconsistent works, why change... |
| 09:46.38 | Torhal | asmodai: No, OnUpdate was broken in 3.3 |
| 09:46.47 | Torhal | If you're tabbed out, it doesn't run |
| 09:47.00 | Xinhuan | how so Torhal? |
| 09:47.12 | Shadowed | not exactly Torhal |
| 09:47.26 | Shadowed | If you're playing in full screen, OnUpdate won't run while alt tabbed out, if you play in windowed mode it still runs |
| 09:47.28 | Xinhuan | i'm alt tabbed out, and the FPS OnUpdate (from pressing Ctrl+R) most definitely is still updating on my screen |
| 09:47.30 | Torhal | If in Windowed maximized |
| 09:47.36 | Xinhuan | i am in windowed maximised |
| 09:47.40 | Torhal | Hrm |
| 09:47.47 | Shadowed | no Torhal got it mixed up |
| 09:47.49 | Xinhuan | (r sun dual screen) |
| 09:47.52 | Shadowed | It works fine if you in windowed maximized |
| 09:47.53 | Xinhuan | (i run dual screen) |
| 09:47.56 | Shadowed | It's only if you are running full screen |
| 09:48.23 | Torhal | If I tab out in Windowed/maximized it doesn't run. I am running under Wine, though... |
| 09:48.46 | Xinhuan | so its not exactly broken then |
| 09:48.56 | Shadowed | Think that's why, since it runs for me |
| 09:48.59 | Shadowed | on OSX/Windows |
| 09:49.00 | Torhal | It always ran before :) |
| 09:49.07 | Shadowed | Xinhuan: It's broken, it's just not horribly broken :Lp |
| 09:49.08 | Torhal | Until 3,3 that is |
| 09:49.09 | Shadowed | -L |
| 09:49.17 | Shadowed | Events still fire thought |
| 09:49.27 | Xinhuan | anyone can translate german here? ;p |
| 09:49.29 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r110 SellJunk.lua: adding should add and not remove :S |
| 09:50.56 | Repo | 10castyeller2: 03Adirelle * r88 modules/Sink_Whisper.lua: Whisper: do not try to set non-existent sink storage. |
| 09:54.12 | Bruners | Xinhuan: isnt nevcairiel german ? |
| 09:54.17 | asmodai | he is |
| 09:54.21 | Xinhuan | don't think he's active now |
| 09:54.29 | asmodai | Torhal: ouch |
| 09:54.41 | Bruners | he was 30 minutes ago |
| 09:54.53 | asmodai | Cinderglacier remained the best leveling runeforge until fallen crusader, right? |
| 09:55.23 | yoshimo | Xinhuan i should be able to do it ;) |
| 09:55.25 | Torhal | asmodai: Aye. It's funny - when I login to WoW I sometimes tab out and read for about 15 minutes. I tab back in and suddenly there are a bunch of AddonLoader messages |
| 09:55.47 | Xinhuan | perhaps you can translate the last 3 string to german here:http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes/localization/ |
| 09:55.47 | Xinhuan | ;p |
| 09:55.55 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/addons/handynotes/localization/ |
| 09:55.58 | Xinhuan | there clickable link |
| 09:56.08 | KriLL3 | the best kind of link |
| 09:57.30 | Bruners | (Keine Titel), Portal |
| 09:57.37 | asmodai | Torhal: hehe, yeah, have that with leveling professions |
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| 10:02.07 | Xinhuan | apparently, on my server, gearscore is important to get into a [Patchwerk Must Die!] raid |
| 10:03.03 | yoshimo | bruners, its singular not plural but i already did it ^^ |
| 10:03.03 | Torhal | I blame Shadowed - he has yet to take over the world. |
| 10:03.29 | Bruners | yoshimo: i have only had 3 years of german in school :P |
| 10:03.31 | Xinhuan | the last one i went to, patchwerk died in 1 min 16 seconds |
| 10:03.54 | yoshimo | at least you had a few years ;) |
| 10:04.32 | yoshimo | we had noth for 4 weeks and each pug killed him before he even thought about teleporting^^ |
| 10:05.04 | Shadowed | working on it |
| 10:05.07 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny * r102 / (9 files in 1 directory): bye ugly global L! |
| 10:05.26 | Shadowed | I blame comm code for being a hassle to work with |
| 10:06.46 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r214 HandyNotes.lua: Add HandyNotes to the Blizzard Interface Addon Options too. |
| 10:07.06 | yoshimo | The less commtraffic you have the better ;) |
| 10:07.11 | Repo | 10portalfu: 03CrazyBenny * r64 / (2 files in 1 directory): added korean locale |
| 10:08.48 | Shadowed | quantity isn't the problem people have |
| 10:09.04 | Shadowed | it's the frequency and where they see it |
| 10:09.06 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan * r215 HandyNotes_HandyNotes.lua: |
| 10:09.08 | Repo | Play nice with Carbonite which is trying to fake as being Cartographer. |
| 10:09.19 | Shadowed | nobodies going to care about what EG is doing cause it's a small bit of data and a lot of it sent between whispers |
| 10:09.43 | Shadowed | despite the fact that it takes like 5 times as much data to send one EG user as it does one GS |
| 10:10.20 | Fisker | slaps Shadowed around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:10.36 | orionshock | well that's at least consistent, dosn't EG look at 5x the amount of data than GS? |
| 10:10.46 | Shadowed | yes |
| 10:11.09 | Shadowed | But it's also sent through whispers so, the people who want to see EG data already know the data is being sent, those who don't won't see it and so don't complain |
| 10:11.24 | orionshock | indeed |
| 10:11.24 | Shadowed | if GS was purely whispers I doubt you'd see people complaining about the spam |
| 10:11.54 | Repo | 10gathermate: 03Xinhuan * r686 Display.lua: |
| 10:11.57 | Repo | Play nice with Carbonite which is trying to fake as being Cartographer. |
| 10:19.36 | Repo | 10handynotes: 03Xinhuan 04v1.1.5 * r216 : Tag release v1.1.5. |
| 10:21.40 | yoshimo | whats the name of the partycommchannel, GROUP or PARTY ? |
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| 10:22.17 | Shadowed | PARTY |
| 10:22.34 | Shadowed | But if you want to send raid or party, you can just send it as RAID and it gets converted to PARTY automatically |
| 10:23.20 | orionshock | but don't mistake being in a battleground as in a raid :) |
| 10:23.32 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Zuz666 * r232 / (14 files in 7 directories): Added ruRU locale |
| 10:23.35 | Arrowmaster | !api getreal |
| 10:23.36 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'getreal': GetRealmName, GetRealZoneText, GetRealNumPartyMembers, GetRealNumRaidMembers |
| 10:23.42 | yoshimo | no "you arent in a XY" message then shadowed?^^ |
| 10:24.04 | Shadowed | If you send it while not in any group, you'll get the you arent in X message |
| 10:24.06 | Shadowed | it's a little wacky |
| 10:24.47 | Shadowed | If you are not in a raid/party and you join a battleground, sending it to PARTY/RAID results in a "you aren't in X" message. If you send it to RAID while in a raid it's sent to RAID, if yuou are in a party and send it to RAID it gets converted to PARTY |
| 10:24.49 | yoshimo | they should either complain about every little misuse or shut uup ;) |
| 10:25.15 | Shadowed | well if I remember right |
| 10:25.24 | Shadowed | It didn't use to complain about it being sent wrong for addon channel then it got chaanged |
| 10:25.25 | Shadowed | -a |
| 10:25.28 | Arrowmaster | the RAID to PARTY was a feature |
| 10:25.48 | Arrowmaster | if you were only in a battleground and tried to send to RAID it used to go nowhere |
| 10:25.59 | Arrowmaster | now it errors |
| 10:29.22 | Repo | 10portalfu: 03CrazyBenny 041.15 * r65 : Tagging as 1.15 |
| 10:31.36 | asmodai | anyone else want some fresh croissants? |
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| 10:48.09 | yoshimo | of course ;) |
| 10:53.42 | asmodai | Hmm, I must not be the only one who sorts his bank stuff by profession/use and then increasing item level XD |
| 10:55.21 | Nechckn | I do, asmodai I do that with my bags and bank. |
| 10:55.36 | asmodai | Nechckn: Makes finding stuf so much easier I think |
| 10:55.39 | Nechckn | And much, much too crazy to allow an AddOn to do it. |
| 10:55.47 | SunTsu | I just use baggins where I can search |
| 10:55.51 | asmodai | Nechckn: hahahaha |
| 10:55.54 | asmodai | Nechckn: indeed! |
| 10:56.01 | asmodai | Nechckn: I like my order :) |
| 10:56.08 | Nechckn | I use the default bag look and actually segregate that way, too. |
| 10:56.22 | Nechckn | You are right, SunTsu, but for just looking, either way works. |
| 10:56.24 | asmodai | SunTsu: I use that as well, but it frustrates me to see everything in random, for me, spots |
| 10:56.44 | Nechckn | hahha wow... Get Out of My Head, asmodai!!! |
| 10:56.51 | asmodai | Nechckn: hahaha |
| 10:57.20 | asmodai | Nechckn: if you are a book reader I am guessing your books are also in perfect sorted order? :) |
| 10:57.39 | Nechckn | Those, movies, games... yeah. |
| 10:58.12 | Nechckn | I have actually become less of an order-crazed bastard as I get older, but not by much. |
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| 10:58.24 | SunTsu | Nechckn: sure, whatever suits best |
| 10:58.24 | asmodai | Hahaha, same here |
| 10:59.13 | SunTsu | I keep them sorted, too, but in an order only I understand and which drove a friend of mine crazy, who is a librarian |
| 10:59.18 | asmodai | is in no way a obsessive-compulsive bastard, but I like things sorted/categorized properly. Saves time down the road (for me at least). |
| 10:59.30 | asmodai | Hahaha, seriously? What part frustrates him? |
| 10:59.35 | asmodai | (or her) |
| 11:00.22 | Nechckn | I have "spots" for like everything - even things arranged by other people, I tend to simply put back. |
| 11:00.41 | Nechckn | Sort of the ultimate "maintainer". |
| 11:00.44 | SunTsu | asmodai: I have some books that are sorted by author, and some are sorted by number of series, and some are just grouped by content |
| 11:01.02 | Nechckn | I don't care if people move things or whatever, but I'll remember and start putting them there, too. |
| 11:01.34 | SunTsu | it was so hard for her that I had to threated her I'd kick her out of my flat if she'd try to change that |
| 11:01.46 | SunTsu | threaten even |
| 11:01.50 | Nechckn | SunTsu That makes sense - as long as it makes sense to you, that is all that really matters. The fact it irritated her is all the better! |
| 11:02.02 | Nechckn | That takes talent |
| 11:02.34 | SunTsu | Nechckn: yeah, it irritates her because she knows umpteen sorting schemes but none of it fits |
| 11:03.42 | Torhal | But do you sort your underwear by stains? |
| 11:04.27 | SunTsu | Torhal: Sure. With stains is for washing or trash, without for wearing |
| 11:04.29 | Nechckn | I keep those stained by you in a special place under my pillow. |
| 11:04.50 | Torhal | We're all in need of medication. |
| 11:05.05 | Nechckn | I'll agree with that... ;-) |
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| 11:09.52 | asmodai | someone put a few runecloth in AH, nothing special |
| 11:10.05 | asmodai | however, a stack of 1 for 3k g? |
| 11:10.23 | Torhal | asmodai: They'd probably been holding onto them since before Silithus. |
| 11:10.30 | Torhal | Sentimentality. |
| 11:10.38 | asmodai | hehe |
| 11:11.06 | Torhal | These are OLD runecloth. |
| 11:11.18 | Repo | 10auldlangsyne: 03Zuz666 * r233 / (6 files in 6 directories): Fix ruRU locale |
| 11:11.48 | asmodai | SunTsu: Yeah, librarians are special. I worked in a university library for a while as IT guy. These people get worked up by trivial, imho, things wrt sorting or so, but wouldn't care less if you were on fire or something like that. |
| 11:12.08 | asmodai | s/wouldn't/couldn't/ |
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| 11:16.00 | asmodai | I wonder why other people's Auctionator is sending me messages |
| 11:17.20 | haste | asmodai: because it has the most retarded version checking scheme. |
| 11:17.38 | asmodai | it just randomly msgs people in the AH? |
| 11:17.54 | haste | no, it does a /who and sends them a version request or some shit |
| 11:19.28 | asmodai | Makes sense to randomly msg people :S |
| 11:19.48 | asmodai | they might actually have it installed!!!!!1!1!!1one |
| 11:26.10 | Shadowed | That got removed in the latest version or two haste |
| 11:27.11 | haste | Shadowed: still putting something like that into an addon makes me question if I would want to use it at all |
| 11:27.19 | Shadowed | definitely |
| 11:27.21 | Shadowed | it's a bit wacky |
| 11:27.30 | haste | a bit :p ? |
| 11:27.35 | Shadowed | :p |
| 11:27.39 | Shadowed | His argument was he wants people to be using the latest versions so they report less bugs |
| 11:27.51 | haste | then he should stop using aceforge! |
| 11:28.06 | haste | and actually update the wowi version as well |
| 11:28.17 | haste | having stray old versions around doesn't exactly help the case |
| 11:28.28 | Shadowed | yea |
| 11:28.42 | Torhal | That's WAY too much logic. |
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| 13:39.57 | ckknight | is there an addon that will tell me what item a quest is for? |
| 13:40.39 | asmodai | what quest an item is for perhaps? |
| 13:43.37 | ckknight | yes |
| 13:43.43 | ckknight | my bad, it's early |
| 13:44.21 | ckknight | off-topic question: what happens to you if you die in your dreams? For me, I just wake up |
| 13:44.32 | ckknight | I was shot in the back of my head in my last dream |
| 13:44.48 | nevcairiel | I never remember my dreams |
| 13:44.51 | ckknight | hmm |
| 13:45.20 | asmodai | ckknight: Just making sure I understood what you meant. I haven't found such an addon yet. |
| 13:45.47 | asmodai | ckknight: I wake up, most of the time, or just dream on. I always bend my dreams to my own thoughts :) |
| 13:45.59 | nevcairiel | doesnt the default UI tell you that now? granted only if you have that quest in your log |
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| 13:50.31 | ckknight | nevcairiel: doesn't appear to |
| 13:50.49 | nevcairiel | wonder if i have some addon that does it |
| 13:51.11 | nevcairiel | SmoothQuest might |
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| 13:57.43 | asmodai | @describe smoothquest |
| 13:57.44 | Repo | asmodai: No project found that matches 'smoothquest' |
| 13:58.45 | nevcairiel | @describe smooth-quest |
| 13:58.46 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/smooth-quest/. SmoothQuest. Gives a Smoother Quest Experience |
| 13:59.34 | asmodai | Seems to be done by Ammo |
| 13:59.47 | nevcairiel | i know who created it =P |
| 13:59.57 | asmodai | But a lot of the features are now in the default client, e.g. quest colouring. |
| 14:00.00 | nevcairiel | i mostly use it for the warcraft sounds :d |
| 14:00.49 | nevcairiel | <peon>more work?</peon> |
| 14:01.43 | nevcairiel | man i so don't want to continue writing this silly docs |
| 14:01.52 | nevcairiel | hate university shit =( |
| 14:02.24 | nevcairiel | try describing your train of thought in choosing a specific data structure in a project that was so trivial that i didnt think, i just used something :P |
| 14:03.46 | nevcairiel | stupid grunt work |
| 14:03.51 | asmodai | zug zug |
| 14:06.23 | asmodai | Love that onupdate bug. Especially when you use the taxi. After a few minutes, tab back in and watch it quickly paint the scene, apply textures etc |
| 14:07.00 | nevcairiel | I wonder if thats really a bug or some new feature to save cpu in background =P |
| 14:07.17 | yoshimo | i would be tempted to just hand in one page with one single sentence like "i choose this, because it does its job very good and was the first thing that came to my mind" |
| 14:07.52 | nevcairiel | If i wouldnt be really short on time already i would do that, but i cant risk having to redo that later :P |
| 14:10.16 | nevcairiel | its technically a second-semester task, but i kinda always was too lazy to do it, so here i am doing it in my last semester :P |
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| 14:18.31 | Funkeh` | lol @ germany telling everyone not to use ie8 :x |
| 14:19.14 | Azurewrath | so the BSI did something right at last ;p |
| 14:19.20 | Funkeh` | or ie in general i should say |
| 14:20.25 | Funkeh` | meh, more exploits were found in firefox last year than ie. It's stupid advice. Use whatever browser you want, they are all fundamentally weak when targetted directly. |
| 14:20.56 | Funkeh` | It's not the goverments decision to place a retarded bias against the browser |
| 14:21.09 | Azurewrath | thats true, but maybe some people stop using IE6 after the advice :) |
| 14:21.33 | Funkeh` | lol i hope so |
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| 14:24.05 | Funkeh` | I wonder how many "begginers" so to say, change from IE8 to something else and get smacked by some normally downlaoded infection due to a lack of smartscreen, MS is always bosting how much it blocks daily. |
| 14:24.40 | Funkeh` | Basically, that advice could possibly bite them in the ass :p |
| 14:25.20 | Azurewrath | what's "smartscreen"? :) |
| 14:26.23 | Funkeh` | the malware/phishing etc blocker, but talking in specific about the malware blocker |
| 14:26.31 | Azurewrath | ah ok |
| 14:28.34 | CrazyBenny | who cares about IE...the only annoying piece is IE6 from point of web developer :P |
| 14:28.55 | yoshimo | CrazyBenny the problem is that most people dont upgrade their IE ;) |
| 14:29.00 | Funkeh` | Well, updating the browser would have been somewhat better advice ;p |
| 14:29.05 | CrazyBenny | indeed |
| 14:29.18 | nevcairiel | except that the exploit isnt fixed yet? :D |
| 14:29.40 | Funkeh` | nope, but I believe ie8 also has DEP on by default which somewhat mitigates it |
| 14:29.44 | yoshimo | my guilds website has a small announcement at the top of the page if it sees an outdated browser ;) |
| 14:29.52 | yoshimo | D E P ? |
| 14:30.04 | nevcairiel | I don't think DEP is active by default |
| 14:30.08 | Funkeh` | data execution prevention |
| 14:30.31 | Funkeh` | I read somewhere they had it on by default in ie8 |
| 14:30.37 | Funkeh` | or listened |
| 14:30.38 | Funkeh` | or whatever |
| 14:31.06 | Funkeh` | In any case, turning it on for all programs is always good |
| 14:31.29 | Fisker | DEP is always on |
| 14:31.38 | Funkeh` | for windows programs only iirc |
| 14:31.39 | Fisker | you even have to do some sick shit to turn it off |
| 14:32.14 | Fisker | for all programs except those you filter yourself i believe |
| 14:32.24 | nevcairiel | i dont think thats default now |
| 14:32.26 | Funkeh` | it's never been on for all programs |
| 14:34.19 | Funkeh` | http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4269/dep.png |
| 14:34.27 | Funkeh` | I had to change tot he bottom option in windows 7 |
| 14:34.33 | Funkeh` | I'm sure it was the same in XP |
| 14:34.54 | nevcairiel | i have one app in that list that wouldnt work otherwise =( |
| 14:35.04 | Funkeh` | which one? |
| 14:35.33 | nevcairiel | some streaming media client based on XBMC |
| 14:36.22 | Fisker | halp |
| 14:37.28 | Funkeh` | aha! |
| 14:37.29 | Funkeh` | http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Microsoft-Details-IE-8-Security-Default-Change/ |
| 14:39.19 | Funkeh` | Again it comes down to "make sure you have the latest version" as it usually does with software, special cases excluded ;p |
| 14:42.10 | Funkeh` | In other news, I have a 5770 on order :x |
| 14:42.41 | Funkeh` | and it's going right back if my fps still sucks in raids |
| 14:43.05 | Fisker | it will |
| 14:43.27 | Funkeh` | you sounds like you have a good reason for saying that ;p |
| 14:43.49 | nevcairiel | it probably really will |
| 14:44.03 | nevcairiel | raids just eat performance, its most likely not the GFX's fault |
| 14:44.34 | Funkeh` | well I've been dropping to 10 randomly in icecrown, i was hoping for "playable" boost really |
| 14:44.45 | nevcairiel | what card do you have now? |
| 14:45.03 | Funkeh` | 2600 |
| 14:47.54 | Repo | 10broker-portals: 03CrazyBenny 041.8.6 * r103 : Tagging as 1.8.6 |
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| 14:54.14 | Neurox | Ok so I'm using ace config and I've got http://pastey.net/131554 as my set/gets but set doesn't seem to work, get returns the default value no matter what and nothing is being written to the savedvars file |
| 14:54.19 | Neurox | what did I do wrong |
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| 15:04.17 | yoshimo | is it possible that acecomm's sendaddonmessage rarely adds controlcharacters to the real prefixes? i often have headline control character in messages i receive. |
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| 15:05.38 | ckknight | yea, it does that. |
| 15:06.08 | nevcairiel | if it splits a message into multiple, it adds the metadata to the prefix |
| 15:06.21 | nevcairiel | like \1 \2 and \3 or so |
| 15:06.33 | nevcairiel | \1 for start, \2 for data, \3 for last package |
| 15:06.34 | nevcairiel | iirc |
| 15:09.34 | yoshimo | i have GLDR[StartOfHeading] instead of GLDR , happens with altoholic too, does that stand for multipart messages? |
| 15:11.07 | nevcairiel | no, thats the addon itself |
| 15:11.17 | Fisker | @project blessed |
| 15:11.18 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/blessed/. Blessed. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 12 days ago |
| 15:11.20 | nevcairiel | aceomm only adds control chars, nothing like that |
| 15:12.07 | nevcairiel | unless you replaced the \1 with that [StartOfHeading] yourself :P |
| 15:15.34 | nevcairiel | the code that is supposed to handle AceComm-3.0 in addonspamfu seems really weird, though |
| 15:15.44 | nevcairiel | all acecomm does is add \001, \002 or \003 |
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| 15:22.27 | yoshimo | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.03 | nevcairiel | no, only 1 2 3 |
| 15:23.13 | nevcairiel | everything else is addons themself |
| 15:23.23 | nevcairiel | well actually AceComm reserves \1-\9 for internal usage |
| 15:23.27 | nevcairiel | but it only uses 1-3 |
| 15:24.53 | asmodai | Mmm, where's this gather node scaling issue coming from? |
| 15:25.23 | asmodai | you're almost on top of the node, circle is quite ok, move away from it, and it slowly displaces, which seems like a scaling issue the way it does |
| 15:25.36 | asmodai | gathermate with sexymap for all it matters |
| 15:26.06 | yoshimo | mhm if its not acecomm that inserts StartOfHeading , and StopAddonMessage also sees this control character, what else could cause this? |
| 15:26.06 | asmodai | Wonder if it is only Mulgore, mmm |
| 15:26.35 | asmodai | As I am walking the gather circles are migrating all over the map :\ |
| 15:26.37 | nevcairiel | its not exactly a "control character" if its over 10 characters already, eh? :D |
| 15:26.57 | yoshimo | its an asciicontrolcharacter according to wikipedia |
| 15:28.18 | yoshimo | ingame you see only ?? |
| 15:29.14 | nevcairiel | well what ascii code is it? :p |
| 15:29.54 | Xinhuan | asmodai, on which map |
| 15:30.04 | nevcairiel | mulgore, he said |
| 15:30.19 | Xinhuan | it usually means the width/height database isn't correct, or the scaling factor of the minimap isn't calculated properly |
| 15:30.48 | nevcairiel | i havent heard any other complaints tbh |
| 15:30.54 | nevcairiel | usually people notice pretty fast |
| 15:30.56 | yoshimo | Seq Dec Hex Acro Name C Description |
| 15:30.57 | yoshimo | ^A 01 01 SOH Start of Header First character of a message header. |
| 15:31.10 | nevcairiel | so its a \1 .. which is AceComm :P |
| 15:31.48 | yoshimo | dammit ^^ |
| 15:32.14 | asmodai | Xinhuan: Mulfore |
| 15:32.15 | asmodai | err |
| 15:32.17 | asmodai | Mulgore |
| 15:32.38 | Xinhuan | which minimap has the issue |
| 15:32.44 | asmodai | SexyMap in this case. |
| 15:32.53 | Xinhuan | the standard minimap or the zoom in map |
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| 15:33.09 | Xinhuan | sexymap has an overlay mode |
| 15:33.23 | asmodai | standard minimap |
| 15:33.35 | Xinhuan | is your minimap scale not 1? |
| 15:33.46 | asmodai | How do I tell? |
| 15:33.54 | Xinhuan | i suspect it has to do with loading order hmm |
| 15:34.05 | Xinhuan | its only that 1 zone anyway? |
| 15:34.28 | asmodai | What I saw so far, trying to remember if I had the same problem on my lowbie Taurens |
| 15:34.46 | asmodai | So could be a one time glitch of course. |
| 15:35.08 | Xinhuan | if there really was an issue you wouln't be teh first to report it now ;p |
| 15:36.17 | asmodai | heh, still weird how it can just happen though :( |
| 15:36.35 | asmodai | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.44 | Xinhuan | well first, disable sexymap and see if it still happens |
| 15:37.26 | Xinhuan | they might have changed the map between patches |
| 15:37.33 | Xinhuan | unlikely as that is |
| 15:42.23 | Neurox | Ok so I'm using ace config and I've got http://pastey.net/131554 as my set/gets but set doesn't seem to work, get returns the default value no matter what and nothing is being written to the savedvars file |
| 15:42.27 | Neurox | what did I do wrong |
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| 15:53.57 | vhaarr | that traverses the config table hierarchy, I'm not sure what you're trying to do |
| 15:54.02 | vhaarr | the info loop, that is |
| 15:54.05 | vhaarr | you need to pastey more |
| 15:54.32 | vhaarr | p = v |
| 15:54.37 | vhaarr | there's no |v| variable anywhere |
| 15:55.17 | Neurox | yes there is... |
| 15:55.22 | Neurox | it's the one passed to set |
| 15:55.22 | vhaarr | ah |
| 15:55.27 | vhaarr | right, but still pastey more |
| 15:55.39 | Neurox | I want to set the data in the same tree structure as the options table is |
| 15:55.47 | vhaarr | then you do this, most of the time |
| 15:55.56 | vhaarr | self.db.profile[info[#info]] = v |
| 15:56.17 | vhaarr | no matter what you're trying to do, what you have there is wrong |
| 15:56.26 | Neurox | I figured that |
| 15:56.32 | vhaarr | info[#info] is a pointer to the current option name |
| 15:56.45 | Neurox | what if you have more than one named that though? |
| 15:56.48 | vhaarr | info{} contains a tree of the options from the current top level down to the root |
| 15:57.09 | vhaarr | and #info is the latest decendant in that tree, ie the level that you are at |
| 15:57.17 | vhaarr | named what? |
| 15:57.33 | Neurox | like enable or w/e |
| 15:57.38 | Neurox | fontSize etc |
| 15:57.43 | vhaarr | then obviously you need to namespace it |
| 15:57.59 | vhaarr | just have different setters and getters, no problem with that |
| 15:57.59 | asmodai | Xinhuan: mmm, have it in Barrens too |
| 15:58.08 | asmodai | Xinhuan: will check without SexyMap |
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| 15:58.53 | Xinhuan | if you have options.args.foo.args.bar.args.bam = {some stuff} in your options tree |
| 15:59.08 | Xinhuan | then info[1] would contain "foo", info[2] would contain "bar", and so on, get it? |
| 15:59.18 | Xinhuan | so info[#info] contains "bam" |
| 15:59.33 | nevcairiel | which also happens to be info[3] :P |
| 15:59.36 | Xinhuan | # is the sizeoftable operator |
| 15:59.57 | Neurox | ye so I want to store it in savedvars as foo.bar.bam |
| 16:00.00 | Xinhuan | info.arg would contain the same stuff as options.args.foo.args.bar.args.bam.arg |
| 16:00.06 | Xinhuan | note its .arg not .args |
| 16:00.24 | asmodai | scale in SexyMap is set to 1 fwiw |
| 16:00.57 | Xinhuan | yu've got to figure it out how you want to copy the data then |
| 16:01.09 | Xinhuan | or construct your sv |
| 16:01.21 | vhaarr | self.db.profile[info[1]][info[2]][info[3]] = v :P |
| 16:01.33 | Neurox | thats what I wanted the loop to do :p |
| 16:01.39 | vhaarr | but obviously that doesn't scale |
| 16:01.44 | vhaarr | so it's a bad way of doing it |
| 16:01.54 | Xinhuan | for i = 1, #info do |
| 16:01.55 | vhaarr | what if you change either the SV structure or the config table at a later point |
| 16:01.56 | nevcairiel | or self.db.profile[magic(info)] = v .. where magic just creates a string out of the keys |
| 16:02.01 | Xinhuan | t = t[info[i]] |
| 16:02.04 | Xinhuan | end |
| 16:02.14 | vhaarr | it's better to namespace the SVs logically and just map them with custom getters and setters |
| 16:02.17 | Xinhuan | where t is initially assigned to db.profile |
| 16:02.46 | asmodai | Xinhuan / nevcairiel : reloadui cleared it |
| 16:02.55 | asmodai | wonders what disrupted it though |
| 16:03.01 | nevcairiel | you didnt try that before? :P |
| 16:03.10 | nevcairiel | reproducability! |
| 16:03.10 | Xinhuan | asmodai, do you run fullscreen mode wow? |
| 16:03.31 | Xinhuan | OnUpdates not being fired may cause the issue when alt-tabbed out in fullscreen mode |
| 16:03.49 | nevcairiel | it should catch up once you tab back |
| 16:04.03 | Xinhuan | depends nev |
| 16:04.12 | Xinhuan | i don't remember if we used OnUpdate to get teh current zone name or not |
| 16:04.16 | asmodai | Xinhuan: ay |
| 16:04.23 | asmodai | Xinhuan: fullscreen it is |
| 16:04.27 | Xinhuan | but i think we do |
| 16:05.33 | Neurox | vhaarr what do you mean "namespace the SVs logically"? o.O |
| 16:06.26 | vhaarr | I mean create tables in the default profile with logical names like foo = {}, bar = {} and then have two setters and getters for values in those |
| 16:07.35 | Neurox | well I have those in the default I think I just wanted to be able to use the same set/get for all the settings |
| 16:07.55 | vhaarr | ye but that doesn't scale to changes in either the SV table OR the config table |
| 16:10.24 | Neurox | and you said this was easier than making your own options... |
| 16:10.43 | Xinhuan | well i just gave u a 3 line loop |
| 16:10.52 | asmodai | nevcairiel: no hadn't tried it yet :( |
| 16:10.52 | Xinhuan | a while ago |
| 16:11.14 | Neurox | magic() right |
| 16:11.41 | vhaarr | Neurox: well if you just give your options unique names you only need self.db.profile[info[#info]]Â = v |
| 16:11.54 | vhaarr | fooFontSize, barFontSize |
| 16:12.02 | vhaarr | or do the magic() ye |
| 16:12.25 | vhaarr | function magic(info) return table.concat(unpack(info), ".") end |
| 16:12.33 | Xinhuan | or my method |
| 16:12.36 | vhaarr | or whatever it is |
| 16:12.42 | vhaarr | ye but he is taking a very simple thing |
| 16:12.47 | vhaarr | and making it very complicated |
| 16:12.58 | Xinhuan | t = addon.db.profile; for i = 1, #info do t = t[info[i]] end |
| 16:13.26 | Xinhuan | and to prevent nil errors, can even do |
| 16:13.37 | Xinhuan | some extra error checking in the loop |
| 16:15.09 | Neurox | that's exactly what I had Xinhuan |
| 16:15.42 | vhaarr | well if it wasn't working then you didn't have a proper SV structure set up to support it |
| 16:15.56 | Xinhuan | yes but if the key in your SV doesn't already exist, you would need to create it |
| 16:16.01 | Xinhuan | unless yue defaults table has them |
| 16:16.05 | Xinhuan | your* |
| 16:16.07 | Neurox | it was putting the default values I had set up right |
| 16:16.38 | Neurox | http://pastey.net/131560 thats my options so far |
| 16:18.52 | Xinhuan | so whats the problem |
| 16:19.18 | Neurox | I can't change the options, the values get passed correctly to set but get just returns the default again |
| 16:19.46 | Xinhuan | you didn't show us the code |
| 16:19.48 | Xinhuan | that sets the options |
| 16:19.56 | Neurox | I did |
| 16:20.04 | Neurox | http://pastey.net/131554 |
| 16:20.32 | nevcairiel | that wont work :d |
| 16:20.42 | Neurox | So I've been told :p |
| 16:21.09 | nevcairiel | the get probably works |
| 16:21.10 | nevcairiel | the set wont |
| 16:21.23 | Xinhuan | yah |
| 16:21.33 | Xinhuan | line 4 is the problem |
| 16:21.51 | Xinhuan | change line 3 to "for i=1, #info-1 do " |
| 16:22.02 | Xinhuan | change line 6 to p[info[#info]] = v |
| 16:22.08 | nevcairiel | http://pastey.net/131561 |
| 16:22.19 | Xinhuan | you want to change the table value itself, not change a copy of the value in the table |
| 16:22.55 | Xinhuan | stabs nevcairiel with a pillow |
| 16:22.57 | Xinhuan | i'm faster nevcairiel |
| 16:22.59 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 16:23.15 | nevcairiel | i had to wait for crappy pastey to submit! |
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| 16:24.49 | asmodai | pastey-- |
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| 16:24.58 | asmodai | hugs http://paste.pocoo.org/ |
| 16:25.07 | Neurox | ahh it works |
| 16:26.47 | asmodai | @&($@ exploration achievements |
| 16:27.02 | asmodai | tries to find the sweet spot for Ogrimmar again on an Alliance character |
| 16:27.08 | nevcairiel | just go in there |
| 16:27.09 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:27.51 | nevcairiel | i believe you had to run to the front gate |
| 16:29.06 | asmodai | go in there and get my corpse spawn camped for god knows how long |
| 16:29.18 | asmodai | <-- pve twat at low level |
| 16:29.28 | nevcairiel | why do you do that on low level anyway :d |
| 16:30.03 | asmodai | well, "low" ,60 :) |
| 16:30.12 | asmodai | I was in the neighbourhood :) |
| 16:35.28 | Ingela | i've run HoR 4 times now, and died before the first boss everytime |
| 16:35.37 | Ingela | how the hell am i supposed to ever finnish that stupid instance <.< |
| 16:36.30 | asmodai | Better geared group? |
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| 16:36.58 | Ingela | yes please, increase the gear requirement for hor please |
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| 16:38.43 | asmodai | heh, managed it |
| 16:38.47 | asmodai | left side, near rocktusk |
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| 16:38.59 | asmodai | flags you as pvp immediately though |
| 16:40.03 | asmodai | But then again, run away to the river, enough hiding spots there. I mean, who the hell ever comes there |
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| 16:48.31 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Gaff3 06options * r316 / (11 files in 3 directories): Improved options as per ticket 59. |
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| 16:50.22 | Repo | 10grid2: 03Gaff3 06options * r317 Options/locales/enUS.lua: Don't forget the locale file. |
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| 17:00.08 | asmodai | They fxed Khadgar's servant |
| 17:00.14 | asmodai | can have multiple tours XD |
| 17:01.14 | Ingela | proof that blizzard is satanists and nazis: http://pici.se/pictures/xMFSvyqmZ.jpg |
| 17:01.17 | Ingela | (check the gold!) |
| 17:02.23 | nevcairiel | you control the gold, not blizzard |
| 17:02.27 | nevcairiel | so whats your point? :P |
| 17:02.33 | Ingela | iz fun :( |
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| 17:03.26 | Gnarfoz | don't count on German people to find "they'er nazis" joke funny :P |
| 17:03.42 | Fisker | just you wait Gnarfoz |
| 17:03.54 | Fisker | i'll level a tank on a german server |
| 17:03.59 | Fisker | then char rename him to hitler one day |
| 17:04.14 | Fisker | we'll see who gets the last laugh then |
| 17:04.21 | nevcairiel | why would hitler be a tank? |
| 17:04.28 | Fisker | so he can be heiled |
| 17:04.46 | Ingela | he would be an excellent tank, he never got out of the bunker |
| 17:05.23 | nevcairiel | goes to play some torchlight |
| 17:06.24 | Fisker | imma getting mahself a wireless router tomorrow :E |
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| 17:10.13 | asmodai | rofl, someone on Trade: Anyone doing For the Horde? |
| 17:10.20 | asmodai | whole of trade: errr, we're Alliance... |
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| 17:19.22 | yoshimo | fail^^ |
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| 17:33.46 | asmodai | yoshimo: absolutely |
| 17:42.14 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: too bad "hitler" is on the blocked names list :o |
| 17:42.57 | yoshimo | some people still ask for heroism in my raid, i doubt a horde character knows that spell ;) |
| 17:43.42 | KriLL3 | why are some spells named differently depending on faction? seems to be mostly paladin & shaman ones |
| 17:44.32 | Gnarfoz | historic reasons |
| 17:45.00 | KriLL3 | to make the alliance shamans & horde paladins feel special in TBC? |
| 17:47.18 | Gnarfoz | for heroism? maybe. |
| 17:47.26 | Gnarfoz | paladins simply had different spells at their disposal. |
| 17:47.40 | Fisker | Gnarfoz i can spell hitler a million different ways |
| 17:47.50 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: try |
| 17:47.53 | Megalon | like you can legolas |
| 17:48.05 | yoshimo | fisker, who cares`? |
| 17:50.38 | Fisker | Gnarfoz: Pancakes! |
| 17:50.43 | Fisker | yoshimo you and Gnarfoz apparently |
| 17:51.31 | Gnarfoz | that's a misconception |
| 17:55.37 | arkanes | I don't think theres any difference between paladins now |
| 17:55.47 | arkanes | blood/vengeance used to be faction ony |
| 18:02.23 | Axodious | there isn't any difference other than naming |
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| 18:10.53 | pompy | wow, rankwatch was saying this hunter was using low rank abilities.. so i tell him and he goes.. |
| 18:11.01 | pompy | <01:08:57 PM>[PL] [80:xxxxx]: there's nothing at my trainer to train in dipshit sorry i cant be a pro on wow |
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| 18:15.12 | Gnarfoz | Axodious: errr what. |
| 18:15.27 | Gnarfoz | yes, there isn't now, but that wasn't the question -.- |
| 18:16.01 | Axodious | i was resplying to what arkanes said |
| 18:16.06 | Axodious | -s |
| 18:17.05 | Megalon | erm |
| 18:17.12 | taleden | is there still any reason to use getglobal() instead of _G[]? |
| 18:17.21 | Megalon | the two seals belfs and bluetauren got |
| 18:17.32 | Megalon | were very different, not only from their name |
| 18:17.45 | Megalon | in TBC |
| 18:18.10 | Axodious | that's why i said isn't |
| 18:18.14 | Axodious | not wasn't :d |
| 18:18.16 | KriLL3 | but they stopped being different at some point in the name of balance? |
| 18:18.35 | Axodious | yes |
| 18:18.57 | Axodious | soc was op for tanking sob was op for pvp ithink |
| 18:19.02 | haste | taleden: nope |
| 18:19.11 | taleden | haste: thanks |
| 18:19.37 | haste | taleden: don't think blizzard even uses it anymore |
| 18:19.42 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:19.51 | Fisker | i call you the haste |
| 18:19.55 | Groktar | trouts Fisker |
| 18:20.14 | haste | challenges Fisker to a duel of staying silent! |
| 18:20.42 | taleden | anyone done much with temporary weapon enchants? is UNIT_INVENTORY_CHANGED sufficient to catch all times the temp enchant appears, disappears or changes? |
| 18:20.54 | Fisker | oh it's on haste |
| 18:21.01 | Fisker | from now |
| 18:22.15 | Gagorian- | taleden: Should be, yes. But it's also very spammy, but unfortunately the only choice. |
| 18:22.40 | taleden | how spammy? i would have thought during combat when you can't change gear, it shouldn't fire much at all |
| 18:23.08 | Megalon | Axodious: ah, hm ;x |
| 18:23.22 | Gagorian- | taleden: Well it's not only gear changes it triggers on ;) |
| 18:23.25 | Megalon | sob was superior for dps, sov in tanking |
| 18:24.43 | taleden | if I only have to process it for arg1=player, do you think it's worth using acebucket? |
| 18:24.57 | Gagorian- | I bucket them every 1.5s |
| 18:25.16 | Gagorian- | A small delay is usually necessary for it to work properly anyway |
| 18:25.46 | taleden | i thought bucket still fired right away the first time, it just enforced a delay before firing again within the bucket time |
| 18:26.15 | Gagorian- | No |
| 18:26.55 | Gagorian- | After first event it starts the timer, collects all events and triggers after timer is expire |
| 18:26.57 | Gagorian- | +d |
| 18:27.04 | taleden | ok |
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| 18:32.03 | Pneumatus | getting a 2nd blue drake makes me sad :< |
| 18:32.14 | Pneumatus | stupid occulus |
| 18:35.29 | Fisker | slaps Pneumatus around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:35.33 | Fisker | oh damn |
| 18:35.34 | Fisker | i suck haste |
| 18:36.00 | Pneumatus | hahaha |
| 18:36.02 | haste | owned! |
| 18:41.06 | Axodious | is there a way to unsheeth your weapons in the new wowarmory 3d thing? |
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| 18:50.21 | Fisker | use an animation with a weapon in it Axodious |
| 18:51.20 | Axodious | yeah i saw, stupid thing is you can't do melee weapon as a caster |
| 18:53.43 | Gnarfoz | my paladin can |
| 18:53.52 | Axodious | paladins are a melee class |
| 18:53.53 | Axodious | ;o |
| 18:53.54 | Gnarfoz | (both casting and melee, go hybrids) |
| 18:54.02 | Gnarfoz | right, because Holy Paladins melee quite a lot! |
| 18:54.12 | Axodious | 2/3 specs do |
| 18:54.15 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:54.47 | Gnarfoz | that'd be a reason to not give them the casting options |
| 18:54.51 | Gnarfoz | but they have both. :P |
| 18:55.50 | Axodious | my lock has cast animations (no weapon) and ranged weapon animations |
| 18:56.02 | Gnarfoz | boo :< |
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| 19:02.11 | yoshimo | Gnarfoz, only if i need the mana badly and the judgement is on the mob^^ |
| 19:04.06 | Fisker | armory update should've been more substantial Axodious :( |
| 19:04.37 | Axodious | i agree, and their model generator sucks |
| 19:04.42 | Axodious | so slow |
| 19:04.56 | Fisker | wtb java version yeah |
| 19:05.03 | Fisker | or hardware accelerated flash |
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| 19:05.31 | Fisker | They should've given us profession recipes |
| 19:05.45 | Fisker | and equipment sets |
| 19:05.49 | CrazyBenny | java version would slow down the page load way too much |
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| 19:06.40 | Fisker | i wish the whole activity stuff was better too |
| 19:06.47 | asmodai | Fisker: get flash 10.1 beta |
| 19:06.49 | Fisker | but they're probably holding off for cataclysm for better support |
| 19:06.52 | Fisker | i has it asmodai |
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| 19:06.58 | Fisker | but for some reason it's still slow and shit here |
| 19:06.58 | asmodai | Oh ok. |
| 19:07.04 | asmodai | That's odd. |
| 19:07.08 | asmodai | It's pretty smooth here. |
| 19:07.13 | asmodai | More than wowhead's at least |
| 19:07.47 | Fisker | my cpu usage is spiking on that page |
| 19:07.55 | Fisker | so i don't think it's working properly :( |
| 19:08.29 | Groktar | hmm |
| 19:08.54 | Groktar | dual boxing ahn'kahet with tank/healer with 3 demo warlocks that like to body pull is interesting |
| 19:09.45 | Axodious | that's when the warlocks coordinate meta immoaura socorr |
| 19:09.51 | Axodious | and the pack dies in 5 seconds |
| 19:10.41 | taleden | can trial accounts buy from the auction house but not sell, or can they not use it at all? |
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| 19:11.30 | Groktar | nah, they were body pulling extras |
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| 19:20.10 | yoshimo | Die GS , DIE! *curses* |
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| 19:21.09 | Axodious | i've been filling out my ratings on ppl with EG |
| 19:21.17 | Gnarfoz | asmodai, Fisker: H/W accelerated Flash is for video decoding only :p |
| 19:21.30 | Fisker | awww Gnarfoz |
| 19:21.33 | Gnarfoz | and yes, their model generator sucks just as bad as Wowhead's |
| 19:21.41 | Fisker | but it's fun though |
| 19:21.45 | Axodious | actually i think its worse than wowheads |
| 19:21.53 | yoshimo | Gnarfoz, whats the problem with it? i think its just for fun |
| 19:21.53 | Fisker | Wowhead's modeal generator used ~little to no cpu |
| 19:22.00 | Fisker | but the armory one used up a core |
| 19:22.07 | Gnarfoz | they're both slow as shit |
| 19:22.11 | Gnarfoz | that's what I'm interested in :p |
| 19:22.19 | Fisker | that's just it |
| 19:22.22 | Megalon | uses up Fisker's core |
| 19:22.25 | Fisker | the wowhead one wasn't really slow |
| 19:22.30 | Fisker | but the wowarmory one was |
| 19:22.42 | Gnarfoz | I don't see much of a difference, tbh |
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| 19:29.06 | pentium166 | wowhead's java one is nice, if it actually works |
| 19:32.25 | Gnarfoz | yes, but that's not used in the profiler. |
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| 19:57.42 | seriallos | hey folks, just gonna throw this out there. trying to update someone else's mod for 3.3. having issues with getting libs to load with LibStub. i have basically zero experience with lua/addons/ace but am an experienced developer in general (java, php). basically getting a "cannot find a library instance of aceaddon-3.0". is there some simple documentation or guides out there that would get me moving on something like this? |
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| 20:06.58 | Gagorian- | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/getting-started/ |
| 20:07.44 | Gagorian- | http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/pages/ |
| 20:08.01 | Gagorian- | http://www.lua.org/pil/ |
| 20:08.15 | Gagorian- | http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft_API |
| 20:08.19 | seriallos | I've been working with some of those |
| 20:08.36 | seriallos | do i need to explicitly include every library i'm going to be using in something like an embeds.xml file? |
| 20:09.38 | Gagorian- | Yes, but if you use wowace or curseforge you can just include them in your .toc and add the codes to strip it out for the nolib version |
| 20:09.52 | Gagorian- | (as in, there's no need for embeds.xml) |
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| 20:11.46 | Gagorian- | http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-keyword-substitutions/ |
| 20:11.56 | Gagorian- | http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ |
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| 20:15.41 | Repo | 10sell-junk: 03CrazyBenny * r111 SellJunk.lua: itemlink check for '/sj add' and '/sj rem' commands |
| 20:18.33 | Ingela | "best" event tracker addon? |
| 20:19.14 | arkanes | what kind of event tracking |
| 20:19.40 | Ingela | all of them |
| 20:19.42 | Pneumatus | devtools |
| 20:19.58 | Pneumatus | /eventtrace is ok as long as you don't want to filter events |
| 20:20.06 | Pneumatus | otherwise, devtools /dteventtrace |
| 20:20.11 | Ingela | yes it was devtools i was looking for Pneumatus, thanks |
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| 20:37.47 | asmodai | Damn, Drain Soul looks quite impressive nowadays. |
| 20:38.54 | asmodai | What I don't understand though, didn't have the drain soul glyph active yet, yet got 2 shards. Thought you could only get 1 from the spell without the glyph? |
| 20:40.01 | Pneumatus | you can potentially get 1 per tick of drain soul, and the glyph will give you 2 instead iirc |
| 20:50.39 | Gagorian- | Pfft, everything is so easy nowadays |
| 20:51.09 | Gagorian- | Nothing was more fun than farming shards for 30 minutes before raids cause you needed to summon 30+ people |
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| 20:58.02 | Fisker | grabs Gnarfoz by the head and farts in it |
| 20:58.36 | asmodai | Gagorian: "fun" I assume? |
| 20:58.37 | yoshimo | does recounthealandabsorbs work for someone? |
| 20:58.53 | Gagorian | asmodai: Very much "fun", indeed |
| 20:59.09 | Ingela | ooo that sounds like a nice addon yoshimo |
| 20:59.18 | Ingela | i'll try and see if it works for me |
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| 21:00.30 | asmodai | Got to love having found a chest item with +10 shadow spell power, that's pure ownage at my low level :D |
| 21:01.28 | asmodai | add an item with +5 sp as well and these mobs don't know what hit them. XD |
| 21:02.56 | arkanes | the difference in pwnage damage between melee with heirlooms and casters with heirlooms feels unfair |
| 21:03.16 | asmodai | casters > melee or vice versa? |
| 21:03.39 | arkanes | melee > casters |
| 21:04.44 | Ingela | may sound stupid yoshimo but did you enable it |
| 21:04.50 | Ingela | i think it's disabled by default |
| 21:05.00 | Ingela | mine was at least |
| 21:05.42 | yoshimo | ^mhm, i have recount guessedabsorbs and the merged one active, but somehow the list is empty, no merging done |
| 21:06.24 | Ingela | i'll join a random group and see if it works for me then =) |
| 21:06.37 | Ingela | but why the hell would he make it disabled <.< |
| 21:08.05 | yoshimo | if i dont want it, i wouldnt have downloaded it in the first place^^ |
| 21:08.19 | Ingela | exactly :D |
| 21:08.33 | Ingela | ah well |
| 21:08.35 | Ingela | it seems to work for me |
| 21:08.47 | Ingela | at least the list isn't empty |
| 21:09.42 | Groktar | http://guild-impulse.net/gallery/pic.php?mode=large&pic_id=117 |
| 21:09.44 | Groktar | :D |
| 21:09.47 | Groktar | om nom nom nom |
| 21:10.24 | Ingela | what the hell is that |
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| 21:10.55 | Groktar | a lasagna |
| 21:10.56 | Groktar | duh |
| 21:11.14 | Ingela | doesn't look like lasagna :( |
| 21:11.18 | Ingela | and i don't eat lasagna |
| 21:11.18 | Ingela | :( |
| 21:11.22 | Groktar | lol |
| 21:11.25 | Groktar | it's not cooked yet, silly! |
| 21:11.28 | Gnarfoz | how would you know what lasagna looks like, then? |
| 21:12.33 | Ingela | good question Gnarfoz =( |
| 21:15.50 | Fisker | farts on Groktar's lasagna |
| 21:16.25 | Groktar | kills fisker |
| 21:16.59 | Fisker | that's not nice |
| 21:19.06 | Groktar | and farting on a perfectly good lasagna is? |
| 21:19.23 | yoshimo | ingela, the problem is, it takes a while until the merging is done, meanwhile it will show crazy numbers like 232.999999999999 :) |
| 21:19.32 | Fisker | it is Groktar |
| 21:19.34 | Fisker | i'm blessing it |
| 21:19.46 | Ingela | my came instantly yoshimo and didn't show any weird numbers as far as i could see |
| 21:20.20 | Ingela | only thing is that when you click on it, it shows "only" detailed info about your absorbs |
| 21:20.25 | Ingela | and not both |
| 21:21.47 | Ingela | i only tested it in a heroic 1min though |
| 21:24.04 | yoshimo | well the basic thing works , and im still above the priests ;) |
| 21:28.06 | Ingela | what class do you play? |
| 21:28.14 | Ingela | or rather, armory link plx! |
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| 21:36.05 | Gagorian | Anyone tried Star Trek Online beta yet? |
| 21:36.19 | pakoz | i heard it was too unstable to test |
| 21:36.23 | nevcairiel | yes, and i'm not impressed |
| 21:36.35 | nevcairiel | even when ignoring all the unstability, its not that much fun |
| 21:36.54 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.4.2-26-g1cb8e45 / (7 files in 2 directories): [+9 commits] (5 truncated) |
| 21:36.55 | Repo | 1cb8e45: Added output saying that gear was requested from someone when using /eg gear |
| 21:36.55 | Gagorian | Another MMO flop then? |
| 21:36.56 | Repo | 94fa27e: Added auto main request on inspect, this is hard throttled at once per hour and disabled in combat |
| 21:36.57 | CrazyBenny | I agree, it felt like more of a single player |
| 21:36.57 | Repo | 5488160: No longer requesting gear when in battlegrounds, sticking to inspects only |
| 21:36.58 | Repo | d891c19: Added main experience configuration, see /eg config |
| 21:37.36 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 04v1.5 * 04b0fcc /: [new tag] Tagging as release 1.5 |
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| 21:42.06 | Repo | 10magicians-sorcerers (experimental): 03stolenlegacy * r22 / (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 21:42.08 | Repo | Players are now removed from the masd server listing when they close the main window and need to reconnect. |
| 21:48.23 | SunTsu | @describe magicians-sorcerers |
| 21:48.26 | Repo | SunTsu: http://www.wowace.com/addons/magicians-sorcerers/. Magicians and Sorcerers. A board game |
| 21:50.14 | asmodai | a game in a game... |
| 21:50.31 | asmodai | Oh well, after those other ones, who's surprised. |
| 21:51.30 | yoshimo | ingela, holy paladin ;) |
| 21:52.20 | Ingela | armory! |
| 21:52.23 | Ingela | aaaaarmory! |
| 21:53.59 | yoshimo | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Thrall&n=Samirâ |
| 21:54.49 | Ingela | hi i'm a pala and i'm a intwhore!!! |
| 21:56.05 | Pneumatus | intwhore discpriests are better than intwhore palas :> |
| 21:56.17 | Ingela | sp whore is the shit |
| 21:56.45 | yoshimo | all sockets that arent required for the metagem, are filled with 20 int as you can see :D |
| 21:56.56 | Pneumatus | oh, im not quite that bad |
| 21:56.57 | Ingela | yea yoshimo :) |
| 21:57.00 | asmodai | I still think Blizzard has the coarse and fine thread images reversed |
| 21:57.01 | Pneumatus | i mix up int/sp gems |
| 21:57.06 | asmodai | (random comment) |
| 21:57.14 | Ingela | with my disc priest i rape eveyrthing with sp |
| 21:57.18 | Ingela | without 2 for meta gem |
| 21:57.25 | Pneumatus | im useless in 5mans as ive got no regen hardly |
| 21:57.33 | Pneumatus | well, not useless |
| 21:57.37 | Pneumatus | i just shadowfield constantly |
| 21:57.52 | Ingela | you should try going holy for heroics |
| 21:58.15 | Ingela | with like 35% crit + some buffs you're gonna proc those surge of lights |
| 21:58.19 | SunTsu | asmodai: from now on I expect stolenlegacy to greeet everyone with "Yo dawg!" |
| 21:58.37 | Ingela | he's in my guild, i can watch over him if you want SunTsu |
| 21:58.47 | Pneumatus | i just shield everyone and holy nova |
| 21:58.55 | SunTsu | Ingela: please do so |
| 21:59.00 | Ingela | yeah that's what i do too, OOM in 2 seconds |
| 21:59.01 | Ingela | :D |
| 21:59.07 | Ingela | hence why i started going holy |
| 21:59.35 | SunTsu | "Yo dawg, I heard you like games, so I put a game in your game, so you can play while you play" |
| 21:59.43 | yoshimo | using holy light can bring you near oom quite easily ;) |
| 22:01.02 | Ingela | heh |
| 22:01.21 | Ingela | lol andraste |
| 22:01.24 | Ingela | andras - other ones |
| 22:01.26 | Ingela | te - tea |
| 22:01.29 | Ingela | other ones tea! |
| 22:01.48 | Pneumatus | i get 1011 mana back from rapture now :o |
| 22:01.52 | Ingela | swedish - such an awesome language |
| 22:01.57 | Ingela | Pneumatus, armooory |
| 22:02.07 | Ingela | arMOARy |
| 22:02.26 | Pneumatus | http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&n=Ismo |
| 22:02.48 | Ingela | oh you biatch |
| 22:02.50 | Ingela | you have my wand |
| 22:04.16 | Pneumatus | i need to replace valanyr |
| 22:04.27 | Ingela | Pneumatus, do you have any world of log and i can take a look on |
| 22:04.48 | Ingela | want to compare to me |
| 22:05.25 | Ingela | am i weird if i found healing in generall interesting |
| 22:05.35 | Ingela | and i enjoy looking through logs |
| 22:05.36 | Ingela | :P |
| 22:06.10 | Pneumatus | we only stasiscl |
| 22:06.21 | Pneumatus | finally, putricide down |
| 22:06.32 | Ingela | "stasiscl"? :O |
| 22:06.39 | Ingela | nice gz |
| 22:06.45 | Pneumatus | self-hosted combat log parser |
| 22:06.53 | Pneumatus | doesnt detail absorbs though :< |
| 22:07.00 | Ingela | boo :( |
| 22:07.33 | Ingela | but generally, how's it working with that much mana |
| 22:07.48 | sb|work | Ingela: i can give you logs |
| 22:07.53 | Ingela | i mean i have like your mana unbuffed when fully buffed |
| 22:08.00 | Ingela | but i never have mana problems in raids |
| 22:08.04 | Pneumatus | i only have 40.4k buffed! |
| 22:08.04 | Ingela | and i SP rape |
| 22:08.17 | Ingela | but really, what you get out of that |
| 22:08.19 | Ingela | other then phat rapture |
| 22:08.24 | Ingela | which is useless :P |
| 22:08.30 | Pneumatus | crit and fat rapture |
| 22:08.37 | Pneumatus | and enough mana to shieldspam fights like putricide |
| 22:08.49 | Ingela | i have enough mana to shieldspam putricide too |
| 22:09.14 | Ingela | i got double solace though |
| 22:09.19 | Pneumatus | sb|work: i get about 5% overall healing from 2pc t10 btw |
| 22:09.29 | Ingela | sb|work, yes please if you're a disc priest |
| 22:09.43 | sb|work | Ingela: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/6k7pvwnc7jbu4t85/?s=11244&e=11715 / http://worldoflogs.com/reports/8tysb9cnu9ijmylg/?s=4070&e=4335 |
| 22:09.50 | Ingela | thank you! |
| 22:09.51 | sb|work | first is toc, second icc |
| 22:09.56 | sb|work | Pneumatus: hmm, thats nice |
| 22:09.58 | Ingela | Permission denied |
| 22:09.58 | Ingela | You do not have the required permissions to view this report. |
| 22:10.00 | sb|work | hmpf |
| 22:10.04 | sb|work | sec |
| 22:10.26 | sb|work | try again |
| 22:10.44 | Ingela | works :) |
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| 22:12.22 | asmodai | More randomness: the Labyrinth soundtrack remains great. makes levelling fun ^^ |
| 22:14.14 | SunTsu | but - levelling _is_ fun |
| 22:14.24 | Ingela | ahahahah |
| 22:14.26 | asmodai | true :) |
| 22:14.27 | Ingela | you're funny SunTsu |
| 22:14.29 | asmodai | it is |
| 22:14.32 | asmodai | rofl |
| 22:14.35 | CrazyBenny | yes, it is fun..the first time |
| 22:14.36 | asmodai | level 10 just died in front of me |
| 22:14.42 | asmodai | all decked in heirloom XD |
| 22:14.49 | asmodai | and here I am levelling without :P |
| 22:14.56 | SunTsu | I'm currently level toon #9 and #10 - and I still like it |
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| 22:14.58 | Ingela | i played until like 1 month ago with one char becuase i was so bored with leveling |
| 22:15.12 | Ingela | and then now with LFD i instanced my dk up to 80 |
| 22:15.19 | Ingela | was a pain |
| 22:15.40 | Ingela | (i've been playing since release) |
| 22:15.43 | Pneumatus | am just uploading my putricide kill to WoL as im actually interested in seeing its disclove |
| 22:15.53 | Ingela | please link it Pneumatus |
| 22:16.09 | SunTsu | I only enter instances only to do quests while levelling |
| 22:16.42 | Pneumatus | anyone know how to stop altoholic marking my mails read? |
| 22:16.45 | Pneumatus | its annoying me |
| 22:17.40 | sb|work | Ingela: jaraxxus was great :p |
| 22:17.41 | asmodai | SunTsu: sometimes I like leveling more than the rest :( |
| 22:17.59 | SunTsu | asmodai: yeah, me too. |
| 22:18.01 | Ingela | was about to check toc now, i can't access that sb|work |
| 22:18.18 | SunTsu | and I don't know what to do if these are level 80, too |
| 22:18.54 | asmodai | But man, even with Spirit Tap you chew through mana as a Priest. |
| 22:18.58 | Repo | 10elitistgroup: 03Shadowed 07master * v1.5-2-g41a95f5 / (2 files in 2 directories): [+2 commits] |
| 22:19.00 | Repo | 41a95f5: Death Knights now need 5/5 Anticipation, 5/5 Toughness, 5/5 Blade Barrier (all 3) to be considered tanks |
| 22:19.01 | Repo | 84aa6f0: Fixed spacing issue with auto request options |
| 22:19.23 | Ingela | sb|work, woah you're geared nearly exactly like me but i gemmed sp rape |
| 22:19.35 | Ingela | and you heal basicly same too |
| 22:20.19 | Pneumatus | WoL uploader is stuck on 0% :< |
| 22:20.30 | asmodai | Crap, power word: shield with glyph only works for others? :( |
| 22:20.32 | Ingela | maybe it's a big log! |
| 22:20.43 | Pneumatus | ~150mb |
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| 22:21.06 | Ingela | asmodai, you can automagically always assume pw:s and pw:s glyph have some bug btw |
| 22:21.19 | asmodai | Ingela: how so? |
| 22:21.27 | Ingela | it's been like that forever |
| 22:21.35 | Ingela | blizzard never seems to get it right |
| 22:22.08 | SunTsu | asmodai: yeah, currently playing my priest and I never had any char drink that much |
| 22:24.03 | sb|work | Ingela: try again |
| 22:24.13 | Ingela | yes works now |
| 22:24.14 | Ingela | =) |
| 22:25.00 | Ingela | gheal |
| 22:25.01 | Ingela | o.O |
| 22:25.12 | asmodai | So, should glyph of PW:S work on yourself? |
| 22:25.18 | Pneumatus | it does, yes |
| 22:25.21 | Ingela | yes it should |
| 22:25.23 | Ingela | and it does |
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| 22:26.17 | sb|work | Ingela: whats your armory url? |
| 22:26.27 | Ingela | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Twilight%27s+Hammer&cn=Ingela |
| 22:26.31 | asmodai | ah, my bad |
| 22:26.53 | asmodai | Your Power Word: Shield also heals the target for 20% of the absorption amount. |
| 22:27.02 | asmodai | You can interpret that in at least 2 ways |
| 22:27.20 | asmodai | I thought it was healing me of 20% of the hits they are doing which are being absorbed. |
| 22:27.21 | Fisker | how? |
| 22:27.26 | asmodai | But it's an instant heal when you cast it. |
| 22:27.33 | Fisker | ah |
| 22:27.37 | asmodai | of the total absorption amount |
| 22:27.49 | Fisker | i disagree though |
| 22:28.10 | Fisker | Should've said "Your Power Word: Shield also heals the target for 20% of damage absorbed" |
| 22:28.13 | Fisker | or something like that |
| 22:28.28 | Pneumatus | that would indicate it only heals after the shield fades |
| 22:28.29 | Pneumatus | so no |
| 22:28.36 | orionshock | ~ugt |
| 22:28.37 | purl | somebody said ugt was Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 22:28.37 | Ingela | give that |
| 22:29.18 | *** part/#wowace CrazyBenny (i=s_m@a02-0602b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 22:29.30 | asmodai | Best part is that that glyph can crit |
| 22:29.36 | *** join/#wowace CrazyBenny (n=s_m@a02-0602b.kn.vutbr.cz) |
| 22:29.40 | Ingela | yes and that crit proccs divine aegis |
| 22:29.40 | Ingela | =) |
| 22:29.53 | sb|work | Ingela: i have 2 +hit items and you have healing shoulder item :o |
| 22:29.55 | Pneumatus | THAT is the best part |
| 22:30.01 | Ingela | sb|work, don't ask |
| 22:30.08 | Ingela | i was drunk, high, retarded, stupid, noob |
| 22:30.13 | Ingela | why the fuck did i pick those shoulders |
| 22:30.31 | Pneumatus | i have them |
| 22:30.33 | Pneumatus | for the 2pc |
| 22:30.38 | Ingela | i won't go for 2pc |
| 22:30.39 | Ingela | at all |
| 22:31.10 | orionshock | @project unconverseablegnome |
| 22:31.12 | Repo | orionshock: No project found that matches 'unconverseablegnome' |
| 22:31.49 | orionshock | @project unconversablegnome |
| 22:31.50 | Repo | orionshock: http://www.wowace.com/addons/unconversablegnome/. UnconversableGnome. Game: WoW. Rabbit (Manager/Author). Updated: 142 days ago |
| 22:33.10 | Ingela | sb|work, i had 2 hit items recently, but now i only have offhand |
| 22:35.54 | SunTsu | asmodai: what level is your priest currently? |
| 22:38.40 | Pneumatus | Ingela: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ftjuns1s741vutc7/ |
| 22:38.44 | Pneumatus | that was todays putricide |
| 22:39.01 | asmodai | SunTsu: 16 |
| 22:39.13 | asmodai | going shadow with this one |
| 22:39.15 | Pneumatus | i spend half the fight without buffs because i died as well :< |
| 22:39.27 | Ingela | ouch |
| 22:39.53 | Pneumatus | collapsed on someone for the green goo and took 2 bouncing goos to the face :< |
| 22:39.59 | Pneumatus | or 1 bouncing + explosion |
| 22:40.02 | Pneumatus | it was bad, anyway |
| 22:40.02 | Ingela | too bad putricide deosn't tell much really |
| 22:40.07 | SunTsu | asmodai: ah, OK, I'm currently approaching 57 |
| 22:40.17 | SunTsu | and, he is shadow, of course |
| 22:40.20 | asmodai | SunTsu: heh, quite a bit further :) |
| 22:40.24 | Ingela | would like to see on festergut or saurfang |
| 22:40.56 | asmodai | SunTsu: I'm leveling 9 alts on the server my main is on and 10 alts on another, but they all use a different spec, as far as possible. Want to get a feeling between the trees. |
| 22:41.09 | Pneumatus | let me see what i can find |
| 22:41.53 | CrazyBenny | you're leveling 19 alts? you should get "the Insane" title for it :P |
| 22:42.52 | asmodai | Amazingly my realm has more night elves than draenei, that's an interesting one. |
| 22:43.00 | asmodai | Human and Paladin top the ranks |
| 22:43.11 | SunTsu | I already have 8 toons on level 80, currently leveling #9 and #10, both mid-fifty |
| 22:43.22 | Ingela | you're crazy |
| 22:43.26 | Pneumatus | Ingela: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/8bledmjy27pyq62y/ |
| 22:43.33 | Ingela | thanks |
| 22:43.51 | Pneumatus | rotface i absolutely fucking owned healing done |
| 22:44.12 | SunTsu | Ingela: I know ;) |
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| 22:44.36 | Ingela | Pneumatus, i don't know why but i also seems to rape that fight |
| 22:44.40 | Ingela | together with all other fights though |
| 22:44.50 | Ingela | http://worldoflogs.com/reports/ng3c3a8kn0mfuxnc/sum/healingDone/?s=5701&e=6024 |
| 22:44.55 | Ingela | here's my last rotface |
| 22:45.55 | asmodai | SunTsu: alts rock :) |
| 22:46.27 | theoddone33 | we have so much trouble at rotface |
| 22:46.29 | theoddone33 | it's retarded |
| 22:46.48 | theoddone33 | we killed it in 2 attempts last week |
| 22:46.53 | theoddone33 | this week we did like 7 |
| 22:46.57 | Ingela | haha |
| 22:47.04 | Ingela | you lack focus |
| 22:47.16 | theoddone33 | and the kill had like 6 people still alive |
| 22:47.23 | theoddone33 | I think we just had a downsy raid that day |
| 22:48.43 | Ingela | Pneumatus, you have very nice healers in your guild i think, or maybe i'm just too mean in my guild and do not let others heal (absorbs ftw) |
| 22:49.04 | theoddone33 | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/a0jun9d6uptwi34h/sum/damageDone/?s=7712&e=8033 our dps looks pretty good really |
| 22:49.05 | Ingela | becuase everyone seems to be exactly the same in your logs, in my logs i'm top and everyone pretty low |
| 22:49.50 | theoddone33 | it's dumb that people die in that fight thoughu |
| 22:50.03 | theoddone33 | probably the increasing mutation speed |
| 22:51.04 | theoddone33 | putricide is the only nice fight for ranged in the wing :( |
| 22:51.28 | asmodai | There are no words to describe how much Darkshore sucks |
| 22:51.58 | yoshimo | i thought desolace was the one that sucked most |
| 22:52.32 | asmodai | Been ages since I was there, so withholding judgement for now. |
| 22:52.37 | Groktar | sets fire to asmodai's eyebrows |
| 22:52.40 | asmodai | And I don't easily find a zone sucky. |
| 22:52.43 | asmodai | Oh noes! |
| 22:52.55 | theoddone33 | darkshore is kind of bad |
| 22:52.59 | asmodai | Now I'll be like Billy Corgan |
| 22:53.08 | Megalon | old searing gorge |
| 22:53.14 | Megalon | quests? what quests? |
| 22:53.37 | theoddone33 | world of logs should let you look at a player and see what rankings they currently hold on whatever fights |
| 22:54.04 | Megalon | or do you mean more from an ambience point of view |
| 22:54.05 | theoddone33 | even though their ranking system is really screwy |
| 22:54.15 | Ingela | just do as Groktar :D |
| 22:55.28 | Pneumatus | Ingela: yeh, our healing team is pretty solid |
| 22:55.46 | Ingela | our healing team sucks |
| 22:55.49 | Groktar | lol Ingela |
| 22:55.58 | yoshimo | theoddone33 how does that work? |
| 22:55.59 | Pneumatus | we've had the same healers since BT |
| 22:56.07 | theoddone33 | the ranking system? |
| 22:56.10 | yoshimo | yes |
| 22:56.10 | Pneumatus | apart from 1 druid |
| 22:56.11 | Ingela | we have a resto druid going like nourish spam when raidhealing |
| 22:56.12 | Groktar | i've gotten so many tells from that the last few weeks |
| 22:56.12 | theoddone33 | well in my opinion it doesn't work |
| 22:56.26 | theoddone33 | it's some combination of effective dps and active percentage |
| 22:56.54 | yoshimo | Groktar, still cheating? ;) |
| 22:57.15 | theoddone33 | but if you try to cross reference ranked players with other reports you'll see a lot of "hey I did more damage than ____ but they're ranked and I'm not in the same report!" |
| 22:57.19 | asmodai | mmm, glyph of SW:P is nice too |
| 22:57.27 | yoshimo | i didnt think so many people would watch other players performance in wol |
| 22:57.50 | Pneumatus | yoshimo: i only ever look at combat logs when i think someone is fucking up |
| 22:58.05 | Ingela | i look at it to boost my e-peen |
| 22:58.20 | Pneumatus | lol |
| 22:58.37 | Pneumatus | disc looks shit apart from on WoL when absorbs are added |
| 22:58.47 | theoddone33 | we have a priest who gets ranked in every log |
| 22:58.54 | theoddone33 | no idea why |
| 22:59.12 | Ingela | hehe i rememberd when we started lolduar and i went disc and like absorbed the whole fight on ignis |
| 22:59.16 | Groktar | i get ranked as prot on 10 mans |
| 22:59.19 | Groktar | it's pretty funny |
| 22:59.48 | Pneumatus | on saurfang i just LOLABSORB all the debuffs |
| 22:59.52 | Ingela | yeap |
| 22:59.54 | Ingela | that's awesome |
| 23:00.05 | Pneumatus | we dont ever get marks when im there |
| 23:00.15 | Ingela | and yeah, on ignis there, nobody had absorb meters running so i got recountguessedabsorbs and then posted me raping everyone else |
| 23:00.18 | Ingela | was kinda funny |
| 23:00.20 | Pneumatus | i think the worst we did was 74% energy or w/e |
| 23:00.25 | Ingela | yea same |
| 23:00.27 | Ingela | it's awesome |
| 23:00.27 | Ingela | :D |
| 23:00.35 | Pneumatus | best we did was about 24% |
| 23:00.38 | Pneumatus | due to a bit of casterfail |
| 23:00.43 | Pneumatus | would have been lower |
| 23:01.15 | theoddone33 | yeah stuff like this |
| 23:01.16 | theoddone33 | in this log |
| 23:01.33 | theoddone33 | one of our elemental shamans did 13683 dps and got ranked at 14 for 25H valkyr |
| 23:01.42 | theoddone33 | if you look at the log |
| 23:01.53 | theoddone33 | I did higher dps and edps |
| 23:01.56 | theoddone33 | but I'm unranked |
| 23:02.00 | theoddone33 | it doesn't make sense to me |
| 23:02.15 | Ingela | :D |
| 23:02.59 | theoddone33 | it does some sort of modification formula by the active time |
| 23:03.04 | theoddone33 | so arcane mages get screwed a bit |
| 23:03.29 | theoddone33 | I don't see why straight edps isn't a good ranking |
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| 23:05.17 | theoddone33 | if it readjusts by active time then some classes get double penalized |
| 23:05.24 | theoddone33 | but I really don't know how they calculate it |
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| 23:07.56 | theoddone33 | all I know is that I respecced a bit and now instead of being the lowest dps on twin valkyr I'm the highest |
| 23:07.58 | theoddone33 | \o/ |
| 23:10.01 | Repo | 10pass-loot: 03Odlaw * r102 / (11 files in 2 directories): - Move modules ui to ace config options menu |
| 23:10.03 | Repo | - Rework Confirm BoP / DE .. no more hooking. |
| 23:10.04 | Repo | - Add Player Name filter. |
| 23:10.06 | Repo | - esES update (Thanks yllelder) |
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| 23:23.16 | CrazyBenny | is it just me, or the flash 3D view in armory goes haywire, when you press the "turn right/left" buttons |
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